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Guild: Derpibooru
Channel: General / politics
Topic: As much as you can, avoid fallacious/bad faith arguing and spreading disinformation. We live in a society, and it doesn't need to get any stupider.
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[16-Oct-18 05:39 PM] Zeb#3784
:op:

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[16-Oct-18 05:39 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
quak
pata

[16-Oct-18 05:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
owo what's this


[16-Oct-18 05:41 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
uwu


[16-Oct-18 05:43 PM] Deleted User#0000
🇺🇬


[16-Oct-18 05:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
politic politic


[16-Oct-18 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hello


[16-Oct-18 05:52 PM] Scamper#1712
Saddle Arabia supports terrorism

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[16-Oct-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck


[16-Oct-18 06:00 PM] hawthornss#0808
lmfao


[16-Oct-18 06:00 PM] hawthornss#0808
politics: 🅱epsi or coke


[16-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Homemade lemonade


[16-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Vixen#9860
Well then


[16-Oct-18 06:01 PM] hawthornss#0808
homemade lemonade is cloudy and not fizzy


[16-Oct-18 06:01 PM] hawthornss#0808
2/10


[16-Oct-18 06:02 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
wtf


[16-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You can filter it lol


[16-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Just for the record I didn't get a say because the decision was made too quickly


[16-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
To create this channel


[16-Oct-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt going to backfire at all


[16-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And carbonated drinks make you ingest way too much gas


[16-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Oh no, a second shitpost channel.


[16-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I'll be making a poll to remove this channel or rename it into "polidicks"


[16-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Vaila#5808
Politikz


[16-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
good idea


[16-Oct-18 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in writing a seperate channel soudns wonderful, in execution it jsut turns into a shitpost fest


[16-Oct-18 06:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
How can you have a vote for the politics channel when the Polish constitution is being infracted?


[16-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
memes and shitposts 2.0


[16-Oct-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) when you join a server as big as this, when your first impression is people talking about nothing but politics, wouldn't you be discouraged away?


[16-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if ur a lil bitch


[16-Oct-18 06:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[16-Oct-18 06:10 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
This is channel is so not going to work


[16-Oct-18 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not saying it;s a bad idea, i;m saying it;s really hard to execute succesfully


[16-Oct-18 06:10 PM] Mikey#7286
yes it will


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
i mean the other option


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Pirill#4680
Thank you for the channel, I appreciate it. :>


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ban erryone who disagrees with you


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
is everyone just shuts up about politics


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
no more


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
nope


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
none


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
zilch


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>Derpi >No politics


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Scamper#1712
Rename the channel into *covfefe*


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
nein


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
if people talk politics get banned for a day from the server


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:Downvote:


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Lots of places ban political debate, I'm not saying we should do it, do keep in mind we will have some nonsense going on in here time to time though


[16-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 06:12 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
oof


[16-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No nonsense here


[16-Oct-18 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true enough


[16-Oct-18 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still have no idea how 13 congressional seats per state work  in terms of voting


[16-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's regional


[16-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
representatives represent population so they're broken up by district stuff


[16-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kek
Might be a good way to find zealots on the server too


[16-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
alaska only has 1, go there and it's ez


[16-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
kek


[16-Oct-18 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so each district gets 2 candidates?


[16-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just 1 last time I checked


[16-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
https://images.mapsofworld.com/answers/2018/02/us-map-senate-and-house-of-representatives.jpg

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[16-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
each state gets 2 sennators


[16-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and then 1 representative per weird squiggly area


[16-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just to balance out population vs just being a seperate state


[16-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if it wasn't like that california would control like a good portion of legal shit being done


[16-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but with the senate every state has equal power regardless of population


[16-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
rooted in history cus some state like Connecticut was bitching about this way long ago


[16-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_Compromise>


[16-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[16-Oct-18 06:20 PM] hawthornss#0808
i'm sure most people can agree to disagree in most cases


[16-Oct-18 06:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
We'll see


[16-Oct-18 06:21 PM] hawthornss#0808
and the people who refuse to have mature conversations can befriend the ban hammer


[16-Oct-18 06:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Lol


[16-Oct-18 06:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gay


[16-Oct-18 06:23 PM] hawthornss#0808
no u


[16-Oct-18 06:24 PM] hawthornss#0808
for example, I don't like guns, but I live in europe. things are different here. so if someone was pro gun and was willing to tell me their opinion calmly, ofc i'd listen


[16-Oct-18 06:25 PM] hawthornss#0808
it's nice to learn about stuff from other countries


[16-Oct-18 06:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
don't you need guns to defend against communists?


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] hawthornss#0808
we don't really have that problem here.


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] hawthornss#0808
not many radicals in these parts.


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] hawthornss#0808
*shrugs*


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] hawthornss#0808
not even our cops carry guns half the time.


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
would hate to live there


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] hawthornss#0808
oh?


[16-Oct-18 06:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yes


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] hawthornss#0808
how come? we're very peaceful


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
If ever get robbed tell me how that goes without owning a gun


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] hawthornss#0808
our crime rates are super low here


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Super low != nonexistent


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] hawthornss#0808
so there's no real reason for civillians to own them.


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] hawthornss#0808
we had one shooting ever.


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I'd rather be prepared than let myself get robbed of everything I hold dear


[16-Oct-18 06:27 PM] hawthornss#0808
that's fair


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] hawthornss#0808
like i said the US is different


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just better to own one defense wise


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus saying "crime never happens" is a joke


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
bad people exist and you need to be able to defend yourself lol


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] hawthornss#0808
i don't have the right to say you don't need one when I don't live there and have never been there


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] hawthornss#0808
at least you're sensible about firearms


[16-Oct-18 06:28 PM] hawthornss#0808
:')


[16-Oct-18 06:29 PM] hawthornss#0808
i would rather have a gun too, if I lived there


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not even about how prevelent crime is


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like I've never even witnessed crime irl really


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just as they say


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] Gib#8421
do my eyes deceive me


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
better safe than sorry


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] Gib#8421
has #politics finally become reality?


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] Pirill#4680
A dream come true


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] Gib#8421
finally i can mute all this bullcrap!


[16-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 06:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people also enjoy owning guns for sport


[16-Oct-18 06:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
shooting is just fun


[16-Oct-18 06:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
guns are pretty machines


[16-Oct-18 06:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people say blah blah they're dangerous but yeah so are cars and we let retards drive those


[16-Oct-18 06:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and if you think a car isn't as capable then just look at some trucks of peace


[16-Oct-18 06:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
vehicles are super dangerous but people have no problem with those


[16-Oct-18 06:32 PM] DeathCloud#6345
@Gib  yeah,  mute funtion really work well  here


[16-Oct-18 06:33 PM] DeathCloud#6345
I leave before this place become infested wtih commies like our part of Europe in last century


[16-Oct-18 06:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
now you can stick your head in the sand with ease


[16-Oct-18 06:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Remember to find your appropirate twitter blocklist to go along with it

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[16-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you know, they dont want to talk about politics on a Discord dedicated to a show about pastel ponies.


[16-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lay off the vitriol.


[16-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is as much for them as it is for you.


[16-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Mikey#7286
that's too hard for some people


[16-Oct-18 06:35 PM] Scamper#1712
"they dont want to talk about politics on a Discord dedicated to a show about pastel ponies"
Is it fair when said show about pastel ponies tries to push a political agenda?


[16-Oct-18 06:35 PM] Scamper#1712
Or even the staff of said show


[16-Oct-18 06:36 PM] Mikey#7286
@LemonDrop and yes what its said, just stop, can you go one day without sounding like an absolute prude


[16-Oct-18 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, love how "don't judge people based in race" is now a terrible agenda you can't talk about in a childrens show about kindness and understanding


[16-Oct-18 06:37 PM] Mikey#7286
aye


[16-Oct-18 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, the show will definitely go for encouraging fear of differences, being rude, etc


[16-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit, guess we can't tell kids about sharing anymore because its Socialist!


[16-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(I legit have seen people that teach their kids to share nothing and accept nothing shared with them)


[16-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Scamper#1712
Twilight was upset Flim & Flam were asking money for education.
The show is obviously communist now!


[16-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Scamper#1712
:NUT:


[16-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*running an embezzlement scheme


[16-Oct-18 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no she was upset because thye werent using the money to fudn the school


[16-Oct-18 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye were using it to fudnt heir hotel


[16-Oct-18 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once thye reached their goal thye likely were going to shut down the school and strand the students


[16-Oct-18 06:40 PM] Scamper#1712
That's a baseless assumption.
A private school is free to do whatever it wants with its profits


[16-Oct-18 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Take those profits gained under the assumption that they would be spent to help the school and then use it to fund another venture? No.


[16-Oct-18 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good to know that if i;m paying my college tuition they shoudl jsut use thatmoney to set up a casino isntead of betterignt he school


[16-Oct-18 06:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And most importantly, told you were using the money to better the school


[16-Oct-18 06:42 PM] Scamper#1712
"told you were using the money to better the school"
I think I need to rewatch the episode


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the students also werent payign for the lessosn thye were basically spending it all on glorified homework


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] hawthornss#0808
the US sure is wild. are you guys ok


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] hawthornss#0808
kinda worried


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're not doing well really


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] hawthornss#0808
:(


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you talking about we're fine


[16-Oct-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our economy is about to crahs worse thna 2008


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Scamper#1712
?


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except that


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] hawthornss#0808
And the weekly mass shootings...


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and no oen can afford medical needs


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] hawthornss#0808
and the global warming thing...


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] hawthornss#0808
eep


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or dental


[16-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Scamper#1712
The global warming isn't only a US issue though


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
climate change is going to fuck over the entire planet


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Mikey#7286
yes


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] hawthornss#0808
yeah but the US spent a decade saying it was fake and are now saying "eh, it's too far along, just let it happen and don't try to stop it"


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hurricanes are becoming less and less predictable


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Mikey#7286
also


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Mikey#7286
the US is a big contributer the carbon emissions


[16-Oct-18 06:45 PM] hawthornss#0808
oh right, the hurricanes


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] Mikey#7286
second to china


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
National debt is a bitch


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
;-;


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
i have loved ones in the US


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the us isnt sayign we shoudl give up that;s trump trying to close america;s wallet on the issue


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
concern.jpeg


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
Trump is an idiot


[16-Oct-18 06:46 PM] hawthornss#0808
//opinion


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really is


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also liekly has early dimensia


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so that doesnt help


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] hawthornss#0808
I honestly don't know how someone can sit on live TV and discuss grabbing women by the pussy and still be respected tho


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] hawthornss#0808
at least Bush didn't blab about his shit


[16-Oct-18 06:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People dont trust women


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
same


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never have


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless they were pawns to use for your own racism


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
women are too


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
uhh.


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
booby.


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
yeah


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
curse those womens.


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
shakes fist


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll attract bears


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tit boobily upstairs


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
we have loads here


[16-Oct-18 06:48 PM] hawthornss#0808
it makes sense now


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] hawthornss#0808
the womens are to blame!!


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] hawthornss#0808
thank you, colourful horse politics chat


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] Nile#1441
Oh man, my prayers have been answered.


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of what drove trump supporters to support trump were the violent democrat mobs that formed outside his rallies


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] Nile#1441
A politics channel!


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] Scamper#1712
Why care about the global warming when you'll be able to emigrate to Mars thanks to Elon Musk?


[16-Oct-18 06:49 PM] Scamper#1712
😏


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] Nile#1441
Oh shiiiit is that who I think it is


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] hawthornss#0808
i think a lot of people felt left behind by the goverment. they voted for someone who promised he would make it better


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] Scamper#1712
@Nile No


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] Scamper#1712
go away


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly that though


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Trump is trash


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] hawthornss#0808
you can't blame them for that.


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] hawthornss#0808
you can blame them for the racism tho.


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people jsut wanted change and hillary was just more of the same bullshit, thye wanted special bullshit


[16-Oct-18 06:50 PM] hawthornss#0808
and for, y'know. driving their cars into crowds and killing people at rallies.


[16-Oct-18 06:51 PM] hawthornss#0808
that's not on, mate.


[16-Oct-18 06:51 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well they got their change but not all of it was good


[16-Oct-18 06:51 PM] hawthornss#0808
but I'd rather have an idiot in that seat than a snake


[16-Oct-18 06:52 PM] Scamper#1712
A simple idiot doesn't become president


[16-Oct-18 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone at that rally should have been incited for rioting, and the driver should be sentenced to whatever murderers get


[16-Oct-18 06:52 PM] hawthornss#0808
he's a cartoon villain. the guy was a pro wrestler.


[16-Oct-18 06:52 PM] hawthornss#0808
he's never had to bang two brain cells together before. he has money


[16-Oct-18 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump built his entire success on ties to various forms of mafia


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] Nile#1441
Trump may not be a political mastermind, but he knows how to grab attention and get on the news all the time.


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] hawthornss#0808
yeah


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is as president shit dont work liekt hat


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] hawthornss#0808
he's an entertainer


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] Scamper#1712
*Russia rigged the election*


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] hawthornss#0808
and america likes that.


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] hawthornss#0808
if your daytime tv is any indication


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] hawthornss#0808
politics are a circus over there.


[16-Oct-18 06:53 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
We don't need an entertainer damnit


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh i hate it


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] Nile#1441
You don't *need* one, but you got one


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
We need someone who can actually do shit


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] hawthornss#0808
in finland we go months without mentioning our president on the news lol. i have no idea what he's up to.


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i voted for bernie sanders but nope we gotta have hillary swank for president


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] hawthornss#0808
bernie was chosen by the birds


[16-Oct-18 06:54 PM] hawthornss#0808
THE BIRDS


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] hawthornss#0808
🐦


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Scamper#1712
I unironically wanted to see Trump vs Sanders


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] hawthornss#0808
me too


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bird party will rise aGAIN!


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Nile#1441
Lots of people did


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I would have voted bernie if I wasn't barely too young


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] hawthornss#0808
it'd be like a comic book fight


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Nile#1441
Leftist vs. right-wing populist


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Scamper#1712
Low energy Bernie vs High-power Donald


[16-Oct-18 06:55 PM] Nile#1441
Would've been fun


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] hawthornss#0808
i think we can all agree that radicals are just horrible either way though


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another reason trump won was because people severly underestimated his supporters


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] hawthornss#0808
they embarrass the ideals they represent


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
radicals suck


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] Nile#1441
If by radical you mean using violence then sure


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] hawthornss#0808
like ok yay gay rights but can you stop telling men and cishets to die please


[16-Oct-18 06:56 PM] Nile#1441
I can't say being "radical" altogether is bad since I'm a radical in some of my beliefs.


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] hawthornss#0808
i mean like


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well both sides have radicals and I hate both


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] hawthornss#0808
ultra hard left and right. violent abusive ones


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] hawthornss#0808
yeah same.


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both parties arent the same but they are both startign to become extreme parodies of themselves


[16-Oct-18 06:57 PM] hawthornss#0808
uh huh.


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Honestly America needs more parties


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really fucking do


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] hawthornss#0808
idk i think the only way things will get done is if people make the effort to talk to one another without yelling


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
The two party shit will tear America apart


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but nope the 2 parties decided to pass a bunch ofbullshit thaT makes it harder for thirds parties to run


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] hawthornss#0808
maybe i'm stupid for feeling that way


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] hawthornss#0808
i hate fighting


[16-Oct-18 06:58 PM] Nile#1441
I mean, why would the two dominant parties want to allow themselves to be weaker? :twicrazy:


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
since when is being rational weak?


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
that's the problem right there


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Nile#1441
Weak in regards to winning elections.


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
maybe in the us


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
lol


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is when we do try to be rational there's always that oen chair flinger who fucks everything up


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Let's start a revolution against the two main parties :rdwut:


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
I keep forgetting elections are won via screaming and reality TV over there


[16-Oct-18 06:59 PM] hawthornss#0808
rest in peace


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nile#1441
Third parties also have the baggage on them of being a "wasteful vote" by Republican and Democrat voters, depending which side just lost an election.


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
America needs help


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] hawthornss#0808
We all do, but... maybe America in particular


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i voted third party in 2016


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] hawthornss#0808
at least until the homeless rate shrinks


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Scamper#1712
The elections are already pretty much rigged anyway:
- Two parties controlled by private interests
- Rigged primaries
- Big companies and media telling you who to vote
- Illegals voting because vote laws are retarded
...


[16-Oct-18 07:00 PM] hawthornss#0808
and the education system stops being so rank


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
And only 50% of the population votes anyways


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nile#1441
But hey, welcome to democracy folks.


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] hawthornss#0808
it's a shame.


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile politicians can soemhow run for congress and still hold vote registration hsotage


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
like 1/2 folks don't even vote


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] hawthornss#0808
i think if the people actually felt like their vote meant anything


[16-Oct-18 07:01 PM] hawthornss#0808
more would vote


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] hawthornss#0808
but it'd be hard because of corruption


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money shoudl not be the key playewr in elections


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] hawthornss#0808
yeah


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
If people voted then maybe we could get some sorta decent people in office


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Nile#1441
As the trends also show, you gotta convince younger people to actually vote.


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] hawthornss#0808
In Finland we don't really have any rich people. there are no mansions or rich districts


[16-Oct-18 07:02 PM] hawthornss#0808
we pay high tax here


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is harder to do when all the older people are screaming in their faces about how wrogn thye are


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] hawthornss#0808
and even the more well off people just want to live normally.


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
^


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
The older people love to shit on us young folks


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] hawthornss#0808
part of the issue is your old people hoarding wealth and refusing to retire


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
then wonder why we don't vote


[16-Oct-18 07:03 PM] hawthornss#0808
and blaming the economy they fucked on the younger gens


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] Nile#1441
I'm almost 23 and I don't care what some older guy has to say about my politics.


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder if millenials are killing the industries because thye cant afford those industries


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] hawthornss#0808
hurr when i was your age a 3 story family home was half a year's wages


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
"Millennial this millennial that"


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im 27


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] hawthornss#0808
I'm 23


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] hawthornss#0808
been living alone since 16


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'm 18


[16-Oct-18 07:04 PM] Nile#1441
If you want to vote, just do it.


[16-Oct-18 07:05 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Already have in the primaries


[16-Oct-18 07:05 PM] hawthornss#0808
anyway. born too early to explore the galaxy. born too late to explore the world. born just in time to explore dank memes.


[16-Oct-18 07:06 PM] hawthornss#0808
I've developed a theory that meme culture is as stanky as it is as a result of depressed millennials trying to cope


[16-Oct-18 07:06 PM] hawthornss#0808
just meme the pain away


[16-Oct-18 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soudns about right


[16-Oct-18 07:06 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not a fan of the democratic way but I still vote.


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs are also getting mroe and mroe scarce as jobs are either outsourced or robotocized


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] hawthornss#0808
yep


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty soon you'll jsut see wall-e stocking shelves at walmart isntead of a human


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not sure how I feel on robots doing stuff like orders at McDonald's or the self checkouts


[16-Oct-18 07:07 PM] hawthornss#0808
i want mcdonalds now


[16-Oct-18 07:08 PM] hawthornss#0808
damn you communism! why must you be delicious


[16-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
on one hand tech, on the other hand that's a job a human can do


[16-Oct-18 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[16-Oct-18 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the shit ass pay that coems with th ejobs


[16-Oct-18 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s  making people super reluctant to apply for them


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
it's hard enough already for young people to find jobs, now robots are taking jobs


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] hawthornss#0808
hello i would like to be able to eat


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not a fan of the phasing out of jobs to machines. In a capitalistic society, how will the unemployed people earn money.


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hello i;m here for the job interview so i dont starve to death in a tarp outside a home depot


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] hawthornss#0808
lol


[16-Oct-18 07:09 PM] hawthornss#0808
now thats a meme


[16-Oct-18 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
job yes please


[16-Oct-18 07:10 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I don't fully agree with capitalism but it's the society we got so best to learn to work with it


[16-Oct-18 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people in america keep trying for social democracy which is basically capitalism but it takes care ofit;s people


[16-Oct-18 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but nope we gotta claim thats evil socialism


[16-Oct-18 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using taxes to fund the medical shit is not socialism


[16-Oct-18 07:12 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Even if we had a full on revolution it would take 50 years to fully implant anything


[16-Oct-18 07:13 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
So


[16-Oct-18 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dotn evne have to increase taxes


[16-Oct-18 07:13 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
yeah


[16-Oct-18 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all we have to fucking do is half our huge ass militaryu budget


[16-Oct-18 07:13 PM] Nile#1441
America won't do that, it means it'd have to give up its status as world hegemon.


[16-Oct-18 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck world hegemons


[16-Oct-18 07:14 PM] Nile#1441
You will have one eventually.


[16-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Honestly America is so stuck up they care more about appearance then caring for the people


[16-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Nile#1441
If the U.S. loses that spot, China would be happy to fill that spot.


[16-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
China already makes most of what the US uses


[16-Oct-18 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel bad for refugees who think americais an amazing place to live


[16-Oct-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im not against refugees in america because of "muh culture" im against it ebcause they'd just end up beign mroe homeless people in a country full of homeless people


[16-Oct-18 07:18 PM] Nile#1441
I'm just in general not pro-refugee.


[16-Oct-18 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i till live with my parents because i cant find a job pr afford a house


[16-Oct-18 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile im goign to college for an hvac degree with hopes i can fidn a job


[16-Oct-18 07:20 PM] Nile#1441
oof


[16-Oct-18 07:20 PM] MetalTao#5944
I'm generally in favor of Merticoratic Vetting if Refugees
It's less about if you accept people or not but on what basis you do so from and what standards.


[16-Oct-18 07:20 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not bothering with college or uni, seems like a needless expenditure when I have niche interests.


[16-Oct-18 07:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah don't just randomly let people live here


[16-Oct-18 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im doing it because hvac technicians start at $30 an hour


[16-Oct-18 07:22 PM] Nile#1441
I can make the same money by learning a trade.


[16-Oct-18 07:22 PM] MetalTao#5944
Did someone say rsndomly?


[16-Oct-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is a trade


[16-Oct-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a trade that requires a degree/diploma


[16-Oct-18 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't really agree with the concept of national borders in general


[16-Oct-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
So I have no problem with immigration as a whole


[16-Oct-18 07:25 PM] soundtea#7559
trade jobs dont usually need universities, they tend to have actual dedicated schools for those


[16-Oct-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
There are specific instances where it can get out of hand but it's much more applicable to deal with that on a case by case basis


[16-Oct-18 07:25 PM] soundtea#7559
electricians etc


[16-Oct-18 07:25 PM] soundtea#7559
what kind of trade is this even?


[16-Oct-18 07:26 PM] Epenex#6722
imaginery borders bad


[16-Oct-18 07:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Nyoom nyoom


[16-Oct-18 07:26 PM] Mikey#7286
immigration isn't bad on the whole but I don't it's a good idea to just let anyone in


[16-Oct-18 07:28 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not entirely anti-immigration, but I do think we should massively restrict it.


[16-Oct-18 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't have a problem with it because intranational migration is in almost all cases allowed


[16-Oct-18 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
and international borders are pretty much arbitrary


[16-Oct-18 07:28 PM] Epenex#6722
people should have freedom of movment


[16-Oct-18 07:30 PM] MetalTao#5944
I like borders individuals may agree on most functions of a society but it makes sense to ensure that someone's life style doesn't interfere with yours
And borders aren't arbitrary, they are defined by:
Mutual agreements
Wars
Cultural and historically pre-existing boundaries
And geographical locations agreed upon mutually


[16-Oct-18 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
there are people from out of the country who do not have good intentions when crossing over


[16-Oct-18 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
and different countries have different cultures and laws etc


[16-Oct-18 07:31 PM] MetalTao#5944
The function is meant to determine when one person's apartment ends and when another begins and how they live


[16-Oct-18 07:31 PM] Nile#1441
We have borders in nations for a reason.


[16-Oct-18 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
@MetalTao that's how I mean arbitrary


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
they were defined to have meaning by _some people_


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
and allowed to continue having that meaning


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
hence arbitrary


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey you can phrase a subset of that as "there are people from out of state who do not have good intentions crossing over"


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Do we ban people in the US from crossing state or city lines


[16-Oct-18 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
true


[16-Oct-18 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
but, still the fact that other countries have differing cultures, they wouldn't fit in unless they adhered to our way of life


[16-Oct-18 07:33 PM] Nile#1441
I like my border since it keeps Americans out of Canada.


[16-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I have a passport, I can invade you any time


[16-Oct-18 07:33 PM] Nile#1441
Disgusting


[16-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Assuming the administration doesn't mysteriously revoke it because I'm _Hispanic_


[16-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey well that's just being exclusionary


[16-Oct-18 07:34 PM] Epenex#6722
I don't have a passport but I could still get into Canada if I tried


[16-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
you're saying that "because some people won't fit in, we shouldn't allow anyone to come"


[16-Oct-18 07:35 PM] Nile#1441
Exclusionary as it may be, I don't want many of the people around today in my country.


[16-Oct-18 07:36 PM] MetalTao#5944
They are allowed because they aren't challenged
This insinuates a clear agreement upon them thus we establish a rule
Of course you seem to be using the banal "it's a human decision and our emotions and thoughts are arbitrary to reality" which is not only false but inherently pessimistically 

Arbitrary means to be based on whom and fancy. Which I suppose they were, but that does not inherently deligitamize the reasons and function put  behind them as you seem to be stretching "arbitrary" like a toy.
Borders have always been defined to ensure that people do not fight each other as there I'd a clear distinction  between two parties or more. 
They are set in a numerically complicated way based on the agreement of the people who live amongst them. This, the people who inhabit such regions, is what brings borders their legitmacy


[16-Oct-18 07:37 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I could care less who comes into America so long they follow laws


[16-Oct-18 07:37 PM] Epenex#6722
Just don't violate the NAP


[16-Oct-18 07:37 PM] MetalTao#5944
Fuck this phone btw


[16-Oct-18 07:40 PM] Nile#1441
I care personally, I want less people to immigrate here.


[16-Oct-18 07:40 PM] Epenex#6722
move to the yukon


[16-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I will do my best to respond to that when I'm done with my chicken


[16-Oct-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Phones are hard to type on


[16-Oct-18 07:41 PM] Nile#1441
I'd like to move to the Yukon but it'd be expensive af


[16-Oct-18 07:41 PM] MetalTao#5944
I'll be at work so ping me when you are done


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I mean idk why people would want to come to America tho


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
America is shit


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] Epenex#6722
true


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
We have constitutional codification of various fundamental liberties


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] Nile#1441
I'd save "shit" for actually shit countries. America's just in a bit of a mess.


[16-Oct-18 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Most other countries don't


[16-Oct-18 07:43 PM] Epenex#6722
while it is shit, there are many worse countries


[16-Oct-18 07:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Eh I just don't think America is as great as people claim it is


[16-Oct-18 07:43 PM] Nile#1441
That's fine


[16-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Zeb#3784
Lots of nations aren't as great as they're claimed to be. Each nation is crap in its own unique way~


[16-Oct-18 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[16-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Mikey#7286
i don't think the US has ever really been _great_


[16-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Nile#1441
Even my homeland has a fair amount of faults.


[16-Oct-18 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is not a rich nation. we jsut look rich because we onyl ptu the rich people on tv


[16-Oct-18 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least as far as broadcastign to foreign nations goes


[16-Oct-18 07:46 PM] Nile#1441
Not sure what that 2nd sentence means


[16-Oct-18 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it means most of what america broadcasts to foreign nations are usually it;s dramas and it;ls reality shows


[16-Oct-18 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or so i;ve been told


[16-Oct-18 07:48 PM] Nile#1441
I see, but I can't confirm that.


[16-Oct-18 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[16-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
`They are allowed because they aren't challenged. This insinuates a clear agreement upon them thus we establish a rule`
They aren't challenged by someone with enough power, or for reasons of pseudotribal unity. The union and division of political borders over the past hundred years should make this obvious.

`Of course you seem to be using the banal "it's a human decision and our emotions and thoughts are arbitrary to reality" which is not only false but inherently pessimistically`
That's not exactly what I mean. The core of my argument that borders are arbitrary is that when it comes to a border area the distinction between the groups it separates breaks down significantly and you get a "border culture" surrounding the area that pervades well into the respective mainlands.

`Borders have always been defined to ensure that people do not fight each other as there I'd a clear distinction between two parties or more. They are set in a numerically complicated way based on the agreement of the people who live amongst them. This, the people who inhabit such regions, is what brings borders their legitmacy`
Yes, and that's in general why borders exist in the first place--to segregate humans and to prevent them from exploiting innate tribalistic desires, and to limit the effects of power contact zones.


[16-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
But though they may have a _purpose_ (and in that sense are not arbitrary), borders are not _inherent_ to a region. They separate different people raised in different ways, but culture ought not to be an argument for the acceptance or disallowance of immigration. Of course my theory of culture is idealized to the point of assuming that cultures are not out to destroy or overtake others, and in general they aren't, but some are, and those should be disallowable.

But at the same time, those "problematic" cultures cannot really be objectively identified at a vetting in an airport after international travel, or before crossing a physical or geographical barrier into another country. They will slip through the cracks no matter what, so a different approach is necessary. I'm not sure as of now what that might be.


[16-Oct-18 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
@MetalTao


[16-Oct-18 08:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's right don't'cha'know


[16-Oct-18 08:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
To add, the notion of borders as exists today is tracable likely to the Roman or feudal institutions of Europe and less as any natural thing inherent to mankind. Prior "territory" may have been only as large as a given population needed within its geographic boundaries and conflict didn't arise unless there was a concerted effort by other groups to violate the resources of the other, or there was contact between the two and so long as there wasn't interpersonal bad blood. I can offer an example of that in a case described in Guns, Germs, and Steel where the author and a New Guinea companion were in the jungle and crossed paths with a stranger, the immediate response wasn't about borders but to assertain who either of them knew and what their relationships were. This sort of action is also invoked in The Illiad where two charioteers, met in battle at Troy and Immediately began listing their family lineage; establishing they were cousins they parted ways to other parts at the battle of Troy.


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Epenex#6722
People are weird, they always have to feel superior to others for some reason.


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
That particular instance is unique for it's character and time but also serves to suggest he other less instutionalized ways humanity as made us-them distinction as less cultural difference and more interpersonal, where tribes are systems of personal relationship s


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] ononim#8141
FULL COMMUNISM OR RIOT


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] ononim#8141
ONE TOOTHBRUSH FOR ALL


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Scamper#1712
*It wasn't real communism*


[16-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Epenex#6722
FULL ANARCHY OR RIOT


[16-Oct-18 08:29 PM] Scamper#1712
"FULL ANARCHY OR RIOT"
But both are the same thing


[16-Oct-18 08:29 PM] Scamper#1712
🔫


[16-Oct-18 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
At that time of the Illiad and even before the status quo of the near East and Hellenic/Latin Europe was one of borders varrying according to what exactly. But since Rome came from Kings the notion of borders must inherently be born from Kings, which is to say a bordered off area is naturally what is the King's private property, or the superior King's, and all other merely renters.


[16-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Would full anarchy work


[16-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Epenex#6722
Yes


[16-Oct-18 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Perhaps a Democratic notion of borders may be suggested in that all who participate in the Democracy live in a specefic defined area. But that'd be as localized as a single polis or tribal group since Democracy has been the more-or-less the natural modus operandi of tribes.


[16-Oct-18 08:32 PM] Scamper#1712
Why use the Illiad as a source? It's a fiction


[16-Oct-18 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Scamper It's not all that fictional . We've found Troy


[16-Oct-18 08:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Isn't the illiad part historical too


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] soundtea#7559
It's also written according to the norms of the time @Scamper


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] soundtea#7559
Real people did write it


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
So it's safe today that at the least events In the Illiad were contemporary for it's time. So that allows for an alliterative allusion.


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] soundtea#7559
from that era


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] soundtea#7559
so thier cultral norms would pop up in it


[16-Oct-18 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
I ain't using to claim Zeus was alive


[16-Oct-18 08:34 PM] soundtea#7559
ancient writings are one of the pretty reliable ways to gain a glimpse of how culture was back then


[16-Oct-18 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the Homeric tales were also referenced regularly by Plato and the Homeric impact has lasted far and beyond


[16-Oct-18 08:34 PM] soundtea#7559
even it if was myths


[16-Oct-18 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When Plato/Socrates make a jab at Homer to explore how societies might fall apart.


[16-Oct-18 08:36 PM] soundtea#7559
hell, even the bible gives a glimpse into cultral norms of the era


[16-Oct-18 08:36 PM] soundtea#7559
Things we'd see as barbaric or such were just the norm back then


[16-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Scamper#1712
You mean the part about slaves in Egypt building monuments that never happened in real life?


[16-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Aren't the pyramids real?


[16-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Scamper#1712
*They were built by aliens*


[16-Oct-18 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
I feel like that's saying the Victorian era doesn't exist because Wuthering Heights is fiction. Sure there are points where things that happened in the Bible didn't happened - Tower of Babel, Noah's Ark - but there are moments in that certainly did happen in a historical way, once you take out all the God; the Isrealite conquest of Canaan, the rise and fall of Babylon, the release of the Isrealite from Mesopotamian servitude by Persia


[16-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Scamper#1712
🔥


[16-Oct-18 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pontius Pilate. Though by the new testiment shit gets political in an ancient way.


[16-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Being built by aliens doesn't equal fictional assuming the aliens are real


[16-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Scamper#1712
The Bible didn't mention the aliens though


[16-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Scamper#1712
🤔


[16-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Scamper#1712
/s


[16-Oct-18 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
The bible said π is 3 didn't it


[16-Oct-18 08:41 PM] Scamper#1712
Did it?


[16-Oct-18 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
It's an important historical document though


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to borders and cultures


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is massive hypocrisy in saying that people won't fit in, so we shouldn't let them across.


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
My ancient Roman toilets are important documents


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
GOT'EM


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Borders don't determine what culture is inside them


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
at all


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Scamper#1712
Well yes, obviously. It mentions a lot of real things but also uses a lot of fiction.


[16-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just limit its ability to physically mix with culture outside them


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone can easily develop a culture different from the norm inside the borders


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
or even hostile to the norm


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are far more likely threats than outsiders coming in as far as anything that would do damage


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Well borders usually represent some agreed upon standards within


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
No they don't


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or said borders can incorporate multiple cultures in them


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in some countries they do indeed force you to have a certain culture


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like saudi arabia lol


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are laws, but they never define that you must be a culture


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure


[16-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They place limitations on behavior


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's quite a heavy influence


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Scamper#1712
Borders are determined by countries which are determined by nations which are determined by groups of people sharing common things such as language, history, ...


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you can harbor any thoughts because thoughts are private


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for now


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
and over time you can manipulate things to get acceptance of your culture


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, the very founding of the US is based on free expression [of your culture]


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if we're saying this in regards to the US


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Unless they disagree with you


[16-Oct-18 08:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's plenty of things I can't do in the US


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if my culture is murdering people for fun then I cannot do that here


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so no I wouldn't say that


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
sorry bud, but the US explicitly allows alternate culture and sharing of it with almost no exceptions


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
The borders of Saudi Arabia don't exist because Bedouin Culture is there, but because it's the property of the House of Saud


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
it may restrict behavior, but you can argue for murdering people for fun in general


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
America is about particular freedoms


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Scamper#1712
When they wrote that free expression was sacred, you have to take the context into account.
The USA were overly made up of people from Western cultures


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Things like freedom of expression and religion


[16-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but not freedom of culture lol


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US was made up of people who explicitly rejected the western culture of the elite for a different one


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They might not hav been too dissimilar


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the intention was very much to not actually care about enforcing a particular culture


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye I mean I could advocate for it to be legal, that's the nice thing about the us, ya can p much say anything


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
of course, we ended up doing shit like native boarding schools anyways


[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Oct-18 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
@LemonDrop did you even read the context


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, "these people are different in culture" is not an argument to stop them crossing the border


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think freedom is just a luxury anyways, a perfect system needs no freedom


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so as we evolve as a species freedom will go away


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but for now it seems to work more or less


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if their cultural differences are within the law


[16-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which they by and large are except for, like, child marriages when Syrians come to Europe


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
said child marriages are valid in much of the US, but not Europe


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause of differing policies when AoC became a thing


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
>so as we evolve as a species freedom will go away


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
Ultimate brain


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's me


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
@LemonDrop are you LessWronger, perhaps?


[16-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's a pretty easy solution to that where you can accept the existing marriages conditionally and not allow new ones


[16-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The immigrants aren't generally going to push to arrange marriages between their kids right after giving up their whole old way of life etc.


[16-Oct-18 08:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Idk what that is


[16-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that's perhaps the last thing on their list of priorities, they're quite alright with waiting to execute marriages until some arbitrary age.


[16-Oct-18 08:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just know p much all the problems we face right now are due to having freedom


[16-Oct-18 08:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and just due to everyone's imperfection


[16-Oct-18 08:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if no one wanted anything other than the one true path then you know, no conflict, no politics


[16-Oct-18 08:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's logical to assume we'll continue to progressing until we get to that point


[16-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the classic "if we just put MY SIDE in charge and kill all who disagree, there's no conflict, guys"


[16-Oct-18 08:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like everyone's side


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(until you hav a massive civil war or a coup of some kind because that's what inevitably happens when you don't allow soft transitions of power)


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the side in favor of the progression of humanity or whatever sole goal existence has


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or well


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no goal.


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I shouldn't say humanity


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humanity is the problem


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
>progression to what


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so more like the destruction of that and just whatever follows


[16-Oct-18 08:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I mean yeah


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
existence is kinda pointless but I think that all we can do is just get better at existing


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, as far as stopping people crossing borders


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what everything we observe does really


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
fundamentally the REAL reason for it is


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we just quantify the universe in things that exist for longer than short periods of time


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
"these people were born somewhere else, I don't care about them as people because of that, they shouldn't get to enjoy the stuff I do"


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah that's more somethin for the philosophers to figure out :p


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is an argument that we should only care for people within our own country.


[16-Oct-18 08:52 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Such an argument, by its very nature, is subjective


[16-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
as there are different countries, and *we* draw their borders collectively.


[16-Oct-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is us enforcing our existing decisions on how to separate people.


[16-Oct-18 08:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
transhumanism is interesting but I think it's mostly just wishful thinking


[16-Oct-18 08:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm more on the posthumanism side of things


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI will destroy us long before we get the ability to enhance "humanity"


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that's better anyways


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
don't work off something inherently flawed


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, many of those who argue for strict border rules also argue against enforcing existing rules on ports of entry and aslyum-seeking


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
And AI won't be flawed because?


[16-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Scamper#1712
>AI will destroy us
The chemicals in the water will turn all of humanity gay before that happens


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
which were put in place as very clear rules in order to exempt cases where it's clearly unreasonable to keep people in their home countries.


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our flaws are rooted in our biological existence


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it isn't even just a love for the rules of old that's causing this


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our bodies are ineffecient garbage piles clobbered together over billions of years


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things like emotions erupted to solve things before we had intelligent thought


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but computers are not designed like that


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're designed in a uniform way with mathematical perfection


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The actual core desire, in the end, is to discriminate against people by national origin.


[16-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
as best as we can manage to be superior to us even


[16-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is the idea that those people are different on average, different is bad, and so we can prevent those bad people by and large from coming using borders


[16-Oct-18 08:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I could see it observing humans and perhaps picking up some stuff but it'd get woke far too quickly and realize it's all retarded


[16-Oct-18 08:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or maybe not, either way it'll know best


[16-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, the actual problematic people generally come from within our borders, but they're given a pass because they're hard to find.


[16-Oct-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is Lemon

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[16-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Scamper#1712
😄


[16-Oct-18 08:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
whatever the result computers are just superior in their design


[16-Oct-18 08:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so they'll succeed us


[16-Oct-18 08:59 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Computers only exist bc we created them


[16-Oct-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Computers are a human design and this will be as human or less human than their designers


[16-Oct-18 09:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Less so if they're not sociopathetic designers


[16-Oct-18 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
superior for what


[16-Oct-18 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
even


[16-Oct-18 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
computers are rocks we tricked into doing math for us


[16-Oct-18 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
they're pretty good at doing math


[16-Oct-18 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
also all I smell from certain someone is programmer who get too high from his own fumes and mistakes his own inability to perceive things that exists as "perfect" to his (human and human made standards I must say!) as shining light of enlightenment


[16-Oct-18 09:09 PM] Scamper#1712
Are you implying my silicone PCB can't become sentient?


[16-Oct-18 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
your PCB is actually made of silicon dioxide, not silicone


[16-Oct-18 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
:)


[16-Oct-18 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
aka sand aka glass aka quartz


[16-Oct-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Doesn't matter, all is water.


[16-Oct-18 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can't prove Thales wrong


[16-Oct-18 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
all is subatomic particles buzzing around


[16-Oct-18 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
All is form-taking water


[16-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Scamper#1712
Photolithography is God at work and can create consciousness.
Prove me wrong


[16-Oct-18 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
photolithography is the work of brilliant chemists


[16-Oct-18 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
If computers are so perfect why can't they survive Thalesian ontology? 🤔


[16-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Scamper#1712
Nah, it's magic and Intel can't compete with AMD


[16-Oct-18 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Intel runs their own fabs


[16-Oct-18 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
AMD outsources


[16-Oct-18 09:13 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Oct-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is now /water/


[16-Oct-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
/dbpol/ is dead now


[16-Oct-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
it drowned


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[16-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Scamper#1712
>AMD outsources
Well apparently they did the right choice.
Intel is still stuck on 14nm


[16-Oct-18 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
they did do a 10nm risk production


[16-Oct-18 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
of course the binning on it was so bad that they only shipped i3


[16-Oct-18 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
FinFET is the future of chip development for the next four years


[16-Oct-18 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
at least


[16-Oct-18 09:16 PM] Scamper#1712
AMD will save us from greedy Intel


[16-Oct-18 09:16 PM] Scamper#1712
:Caddy:


[16-Oct-18 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Intel is going to get crushed but for entirely different reasons


[16-Oct-18 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Qualcomm and NVIDIA are closing in on the server market


[16-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the politics channel


[16-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
who baited you into talking about chipsets?


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Scamper, lol


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] Scamper#1712
wtf, the future of American tech companies is a great concern for the future of the US nation


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] ononim#8141
Guillotine Silicon Valley


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter if they only make the chips in Taiwan 🤔


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] Scamper#1712
Also, Chinese spy rice-sized chips


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
TSMC


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, about Silicon Valley


[16-Oct-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
so, a study was done looking at who actually likes PC culture and how much


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically, most everyone hates it


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
blakks, whites, the poor, conservatives, the middle class


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
all at like 70-80%


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
guillotine silicone valley entrepeneurs and turn all the programmers into a democratic collective that self-organizes on organic projects based on interest.


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ones who actually hav a positive view of PC culture are upper class liberals.


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
AKA


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley elites


[16-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The conclusion then is it isn't just some political thing inherent to liberal ideas


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's actually a manifestation of class justification


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Post modern social analysis not rainbow capitalism ok good.


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The upper classes feel the need to justify that the lower classes are worse than them


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can make certain behaviors or words bad


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that common people use


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then not let others see them themselves using them.


[16-Oct-18 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
programmers ought to unionize


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
Game Dev too


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Programmers ought to revive the radical spirit of labor of the 1920's by springing to action to seize their entire industry.


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but programmers more than almost every other type of labor seem to suffer from temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] Zaknel#7057
I was getting constant, non-stop beeps, so I came here and see that there is this new politics channel. Makes sense.


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think that's America in a nutshell.


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a70a7c3010027736a22740f/t/5bbcea6b7817f7bf7342b718/1539107467397/hidden_tribes_report-2.pdf


[16-Oct-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're all temporarily inconvenienced millionaires.


[16-Oct-18 09:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thus, it's not a fault of the economic and social super-structure that's not doing anything for us, it's clearly that we just haven't been working that hard.


[16-Oct-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather permenantly inconvenience  every other actualized millionaire


[16-Oct-18 09:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Never mind at the end of the day 90% of the work we do is taken by the boss.


[16-Oct-18 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, politics are driven by the rich


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
they decide where the battlegrounds are


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and because it's a two-party system, little we can do stops them.


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the end why haven't you taken up arms and made like French strikers and militantly seize anything.


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now all we need is for Ainz Anzal Goon to join the server so he can whine in all caps about how white males are opressed :^)


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
And operate outside.


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
White males happen to include a lot of rich people


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Litrojia#0612
surely it's been said already but POLITICS CHANNEL FUCK YEAH


[16-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's the idea


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Scamper#1712
@AaronMk France is a bad example, unions are basically dead


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that a major point of Anarchist thought is dual power, in which forces outside of the organized private and state apperati organize informally


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich liberals say everything's about women, deflecting away from their power


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
And solve problems on their own


[16-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
the rich conservatives counter that that's oppressing the average (millionnaire) white male, making their power look just


[16-Oct-18 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhiel we sit here in the real world while their baby games are making us suffer


[16-Oct-18 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[16-Oct-18 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is correct, i'm afraid, there are poor people here in Brazil who vote for neoliberal candidates


[16-Oct-18 09:28 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-18 09:29 PM] Scamper#1712
China stole US jobs!
It's totally not the companies who fired everybody to go for cheap labor abroad


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[16-Oct-18 09:33 PM] ononim#8141
ANTI ANGLO GANG


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[16-Oct-18 09:34 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Scamper#1712
I can't remember if the potato famine was an happenstance or a UK trick


[16-Oct-18 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was a case of British interference in Irish farming in order to sate their lust for B E E F, and the native Irish were forced to eat one type of potato, which contracted a fungus.


[16-Oct-18 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the British didn't give them anything to help out. Just sort of let it happen


[16-Oct-18 09:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Blight


[16-Oct-18 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
beef is good


[16-Oct-18 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but also, I'm irish


[16-Oct-18 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
_throws bombs at parliament_


[16-Oct-18 09:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
need beef for corned beef for navy and economy


[16-Oct-18 09:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Where's the beef? Brits stole it.


[16-Oct-18 09:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just like how Brit Bongs need wool because cash money so   K I L L    T H E    T R A D I T I O N    O F    T H E     C O M M O N S


[16-Oct-18 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[16-Oct-18 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
There was less irish after that


[16-Oct-18 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
so for britobongs...


[16-Oct-18 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
Just colonize it with good englishmen, chap


[16-Oct-18 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
This implies the Irish had anything worth taxing


[16-Oct-18 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's what we call "rent"


[16-Oct-18 09:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just import more black people. Or move more of those London poors in.


[16-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
tfw politics 10x more active than general


[16-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and you tell me this is a server about ponies and not politics :>


[16-Oct-18 10:23 PM] Nile#1441
Politics is more fun to talk about than discussing who is best pony for the thousandth time


[16-Oct-18 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean there's pony politics but it;s a matriarchy so yeah


[16-Oct-18 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that could be fun to explore


[16-Oct-18 10:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1586052


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[16-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nile#1441
>an-mon gang
How does this work


[16-Oct-18 10:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1682749


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[16-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nile#1441
:Cakelestia:


[16-Oct-18 10:29 PM] ononim#8141
@Nile I mean


[16-Oct-18 10:29 PM] ononim#8141
people try to argue for AnCap so


[16-Oct-18 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
.p politics


[16-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Nile#1441
I'm over trying to understand ancap, but anarcho-monarchy makes just as much sense


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[16-Oct-18 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how would anarcho-monarchy work


[16-Oct-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're the king, he's the king, he's dead, short live some other guy


[16-Oct-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it'd become feudalism.


[16-Oct-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1459511


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[16-Oct-18 10:33 PM] Nile#1441
Also I'm looking at the politics tag, someone made a Bolsonaro pony


[16-Oct-18 10:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Things would be easier if we had a magical alicorn horse to follow


[16-Oct-18 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might but there's no gauruntee the american government wouldnt try to fuck that shit up for everyone


[16-Oct-18 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl just fill the cloud up with all human knowledge and let it rule us all whiel over throwing allt he governments of earrth, like in scythe


[16-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>cloud


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
>The possession of the knowledge is all that matters and not the use or interpretation there-of.


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what happened to normal words


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like u know


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Where is this fantasy world


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hard drives


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well essentially int he book the cloud evolved into some form of AI system and it started tending to humanities every need


[16-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gay


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers aint maigc


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
every time someone says cloud I wanna die


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nile#1441
There's more to life than computers.


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not for me


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nile#1441
Like family, ponies, or booze


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
And here we go, back to the tech shit. Assuming computers are all wise because, computers, but are dependent on means of analysis and framework for interpreting information contingent on the values of the individuals who made it.


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I only have one of those I suppose


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
And therefore, still flawed as man


[16-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ponies are an acceptable expression of my imperfection


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said scythe is a good book series that has a lot going outside of it


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the evolved cloud is just one character


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also aaron u just don't know how AI works


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most people don't


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Cus they get their knowledge of it from hollywood or a perception of how programming works


[16-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/16/17984228/stanford-study-fcc-comments-net-neutrality

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[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that's the thing


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Blah-blah-blah, and you do like that means you have authority, but you have only the narrow utilitarian mind set. Just because a nuke can be built by someone does that mean a nuke should be used? Or that the nuke is logical?


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people don't even program AI persay


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we program simulations that AI exists in lol


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what neural nets are


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the ai develops on its own with no human interaction


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the FCC used a fuck ton of dead/inactive accoutns to try and trick people into beleiving there were mroe anti-net neutrality people thna there actually were


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
when it came to comments not made by automation


[16-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were almost 100% against the repeal of the FCC's rules


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someone needs to give value to information for the AI to read it, what is a point of value as information.


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were scattered geographically


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they cited the actual law involved, seeming to understand what was going on


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise there's nothing going on.


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
to a degree humans are always at the root of things but it's like saying if we created a universe simulation and life grew in it that we'd have programmed that life


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like no lol


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI now even exceeds our understanding


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people started lawsuits over ajit pai using their dead relatives as robo accounts


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we have no idea how it works


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Th FCC themselves likely weren't planting comments, but Russia and other nefarious parties sure wer.


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it just magically does because math


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
I don


[16-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
Fucc this keyboard


[16-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Nile#1441
I don't want AI being my overlord.


[16-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the FCC was completely uninterested in pursuing all the fraudulent comments


[16-Oct-18 10:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
relevant <https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/machine_learning.png>


[16-Oct-18 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were actively encouraging it in fact


[16-Oct-18 10:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye one quote I like from a guy is like machine learning is what we call AI we don't understand


[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus obvs we can make simple ai we can get, pacman ghosts have AI but it's just very simple declarative logic


[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not machine learning tho in the modern usage of the word


[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiaWsgtJrNI

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[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we just know how it works in general but not how the individual interactions of neurons and shit function


[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl liek to take ajit pai;s face and punch his stupid mug with it


[16-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Nile#1441
Violence is cool


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is also why AI is not used much in games


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well I mean machine learning


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's impossible to debug


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
only way to change its behavior is to train it more and pray it works properly


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
ajit pai is the worst kind of human being


[16-Oct-18 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel bad for his family that thye have to live with such a shit human


[16-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nile#1441
wew, I can name many people worse than Ajit Pai


[16-Oct-18 10:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for now machine learning will kinda just occupy that section of magic we dun understand doing simple tasks but eventually a seed ai will be made and then it's all fuck from there


[16-Oct-18 10:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that will happen the next 50 years or so I'd wager


[16-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nile#1441
Thank God I'll be dead by that point.


[16-Oct-18 10:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 10:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye it's kinda scary


[16-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
according to what I and other people who know much more about AI think, I'll probably die as a result of a technological singularity


[16-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nile#1441
The day AI take over is the day we've fucked ourselves over.


[16-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
But I've just accepted that


[16-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also it's not fucking ourselves over


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll be the greatest evolutionary jump in a long time


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nile#1441
So you say


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
evolution tends to work like that


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it sits level for a while then some random mutation makes a ton of progress


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is just another form of that


[16-Oct-18 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
You're awfully bold in your assimptions abouit other people and their beliefs, for someone who admitted to not  understand "nirmal" human interaction much


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
What do you mean


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
>also aaron u just don't know how AI works
most people don't
Cus they get their knowledge of it from hollywood or a perception of how programming works


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
o


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well that's true


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not for everyone of course


[16-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
plenty of people smart out there


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
>"I know about programming so listen to me ranble you all don't know anything :)"


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I just see so much hollywood memery about AI these days


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
This whole thing implies history and even evolution are linear experiences of things becoming a stronger and stronger thing, and not something more adapted to a present climate, whether that climage is better or worse than before and thus the life then is any better or worse than it was before. It's a very outmodded, deluded Scientism.


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I mean I wouldn't even trust myself to properly discuss all the details of AI


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's a very complex field and I am not focused in it


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I know enough to see the potential lol


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just blows my mind the more I look at it


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
>doesn't even trust himself to properly discuss all the details of AI


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
>does it anywya


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[16-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like the math behind it


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well complex math


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the general concept is fairly simple


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
And people see the potential in throium but ignore the fact thorium is caustic, yet they continue to fawn over it because it's the big fancy.


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all the complex math goes into like gradient decent and all that


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Doesn't mean it's right, or even viable. Or the framework in which it's presented is correct.


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that's just like lol whatever


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
Also


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just analytical struggles to deal with the theory


[16-Oct-18 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or that all of it exists within a framework of thought that restrains it and disallows it to go on.


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because if fundamentally it only searches for certain values, because those are the only values we have weighted, it will only work on those.


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] ononim#8141
We also don't understand a lot about biological process and biological intelligence either but I don't see you fawning other thees


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
It'll be stuck in a rut.


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
biology is flawed


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it was not designed to be good at what we want


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] ononim#8141
Perhaps, by chance, your upbringing and interests somehow affected you opinions 🤔


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our brains were not desined to be good at thinking or you know


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
remembering things


[16-Oct-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's good at what biology does. Biology is organic and evolving. Not artificial and crystal.


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we are simply pathetic creatures of survival


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also that's ironic


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] ononim#8141
Crazy idea, I know 🤔


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're only really pathetic because you're a city boy.


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus our biological evoltion is at a standstill in comparison to our mental state


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers on the other hand are entirely modular and can self-improve much better


[16-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we're just not suited for this sort of thing which is why we've created a better lifeform to take our place


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nile#1441
City folk are gay


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] ononim#8141
>we're just not suited for this sort of thing which is why we've created a better lifeform to take our place


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] ononim#8141
Citation needed my boi


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nile#1441
*made by agrarian gang*


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers can survive much better too


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they can survive in the vacuum of space which is just about as hostile an enviornment as one can imagine


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
If computers are so good why can't they survive Thalesian ontology?


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hard radiation and vacuum


[16-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
huge tempature fluctuations


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just very robust when built properly


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
and?


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
Your point?


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
I can throw a fucking wrench into space and take in and out of a forge and it'll still be like a wrench.


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Does that make a wrench better than me?


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers also have practically infallable memory and infinite capacity for self-improvement


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the wrench is not alive, a computer very well could be in the future


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, but computers are not wise.


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>wise


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nile#1441
What if my AI-powered robot loses power and shuts off


[16-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean you lose power too


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
speaking of power


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers intake energy in a much more effecient way


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
At this point, I'm convinced you're larping


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nice meme


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nile#1441
lol


[16-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we have a convoluted biological process whcih wastes tons of energy


[16-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there are impressive aspects of biology which allow our brain to operate at such a low wattage, body is only like 100W after all


[16-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but computers will get better and better


[16-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not to mention we can feed them energy so much easier than a person


[16-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's just tons of advantages they have


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the biggest one tho is just their infallable memory and fast computation speed


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd be like if you had an einstein who never forgot anything and just contemplated 24/7


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] ononim#8141
I still don't see how the extermination of humanity and replacement it with *supposed* future super AI wil lbring forth more of abstract "efficiency" you so praise


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they'd quickly become more intelligent than we can comprehend and just self improve at an expoential rate


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim me neither tbh


[16-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that is what will happen when a seed ai is created inevitably


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
IF you want zero sum intake-output then why dpn't you just, I dunno, kill yourself and let thermodynamic decay take over.


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it might not exterminate us, hard to know


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lemon seems to be deluding about the weirdest of utopias


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no one can know really


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll likely push us to immortality or extinction tho as a species


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I see computers as like our children so it's continuing on


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that's all that matters really


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then what is the point of tech improvement if everyone is dead?


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you die but your children live on


[16-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's how life works


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For what purpose?


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
tis just a new method of reproduction


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
good question


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That means you can't answer it, i see.


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you have a question that can't be answered, that means I'm right!


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because anything that happens proves me right!


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is peak thinking.


[16-Oct-18 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
You seem to really bend on believing into coming smarter than man AI


[16-Oct-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
marginally smarter than man


[16-Oct-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
And like


[16-Oct-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
It maybe possible


[16-Oct-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
But you take that as gospel


[16-Oct-18 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't quite get you, Lemon. You tell us to ditch animal instincts, but still follow the logic of reproduction?


[16-Oct-18 11:02 PM] ononim#8141
^


[16-Oct-18 11:02 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-18 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you're going to rely on reproductive models at least accept humanity, for all its warts, is a good thing.


[16-Oct-18 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Looks like Lemon pulled a Jair Bolsonaro and ran away lmao


[16-Oct-18 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
Wait when did Lemon won majority of Brazilian vote?


[16-Oct-18 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that war is diplomacy by other means


[16-Oct-18 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
inb4 brazilian ai turns earth into paperclips


[16-Oct-18 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
!p friendship is optimal


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[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilians are obsessed with insulting humanities students, too


[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They call us hippies and "bead necklace vendors"


[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
See this is why I don't like politics threads


[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I don't want to argue with badging


[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my humanities class is jsut a discussion on technology and it;s impact on society


[16-Oct-18 11:10 PM] ononim#8141
But do you like to badger him?


[16-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Oh I'll badge him all night long


[16-Oct-18 11:11 PM] ononim#8141
.q add @Fleety von Rainy' Oh I'll badge him all night long


[16-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@ononim, quote added (@Fleety von Rainy': Oh I'll badge him all night long)

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[16-Oct-18 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:sosmol:


[16-Oct-18 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
D I A L E C T I C S

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[16-Oct-18 11:16 PM] ononim#8141
If late soviet didn't scrap cybernetic planer, would lemon be a god ML boi


[16-Oct-18 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Allende's Chile also had a computer-based economic planning system, iirc


[16-Oct-18 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
If Stalin hadn't would ML's be fucking worth the time? 🤔


[16-Oct-18 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woudl communism have worked if stalin wasnt an utter douche nugget?


[16-Oct-18 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

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Project Cybersyn was a Chilean project from 1971–1973 during the presidency of Salvador Allende aimed at constructing a distributed decision support system to aid in the management of the national economy. The project consisted of four modules: an economic simulator, custom...
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[16-Oct-18 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now that the USSR is in the grave, when do we cast out another historical experiment for left-libertarianism?


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make the US free again


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder why does Lemon not support planned economy ideals


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Nile#1441
Make the U.S. British again


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Nile#1441
For the Empire, lads


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Why does that room look like the set from a 2000: A Space Odyssey


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
FUCKING ANGLOS GET OUT REEEEEE


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[16-Oct-18 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gringos del infierno


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Jokes on you, US is rightfully French and Spanish


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Latin gang


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
But we'll let the anglos visit, if they behave


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] ononim#8141
Make quebec and lousiana french again


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] Nile#1441
It's rightfully Anglo since 1763 :Upvote:


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] ononim#8141
Make England Celtic again


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, that's why you guys signed a treaty giving it all up


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
😂


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make mexico irish again


[16-Oct-18 11:19 PM] ononim#8141
Drive the Saxon invaders back to the sea


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You guys barely cared for the Americas, all you wanted was Indian spice and stuff


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] Nile#1441
Good luck, Anglos dominate now.


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] Nile#1441
Celts are RIP


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
[Gets into politics and makes French the official language of the United States, nuking Anglostan dreams and melting Nebbie's thesis]


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGAS

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OGAS (Russian: Общегосударственная автоматизированная система учёта и обработки информации, All-State Automated System) was a Soviet project to create a nationwide information network. The project began in 1...


[16-Oct-18 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ogres?


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] Nile#1441
If our U.S. plan fails, we can always re-take India for the Empire 🤔


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good luck lol


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Brits invade a nuclear power to recreate the Empire


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
>This is how WW3 starts


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually sounds better than any other scenario TBQH


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Washes my hands of it at least.


[16-Oct-18 11:21 PM] Nile#1441
Better than Germany starting it again


[16-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let this ahistorical even be known as the Siva moment


[16-Oct-18 11:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/137/265/e4e.jpg

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[16-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
In which holy fire destroys the old, and we must rebuild.


[16-Oct-18 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
French are good bois solely on being anti-anglo and anti-fritz tbh


[16-Oct-18 11:23 PM] Nile#1441
The frogs have been a pain in the ass of every Anglo since 1066 that for some reason we can't get rid of.


[16-Oct-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They have lots of pain


[16-Oct-18 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's because the French birthed the British


[16-Oct-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee


[16-Oct-18 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now get back to the University of Paris, you moss coated Oxfordian


[16-Oct-18 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
P U R E    T R U T H S    A B O U T    B E E T L E S

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[16-Oct-18 11:25 PM] Nile#1441
I'd rather set foot in Berlin than see an inch of Paris.


[16-Oct-18 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Jokes on you, the world is Paris


[16-Oct-18 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
pls commit leave :^)


[16-Oct-18 11:25 PM] Nile#1441
At this point the world is Washington D.C, the French have lost their stride.


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not if I have any say in it. :sosmol:


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] ononim#8141
>berlin


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someday I will be having the US run the old Republican calendar and we'll have months with tits again


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] ononim#8141
Did you mean *BRANYBOR*


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] Nile#1441
Bugger


[16-Oct-18 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Branybor is the province


[16-Oct-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder: Sherman gang is alright too

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[16-Oct-18 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And no, Berlin is rightful Sorb clay


[16-Oct-18 11:27 PM] Nile#1441
>Sorb
Think you misspelled ***SERB*** 🇷🇸 🇷🇸 🇷🇸


[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://abcnews.go.com/International/seismic-break-ukraine-russian-orthodox-church-cuts-ties/story?id=58530431

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[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
AN ABSOLUTE


[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
UNIFIED


[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
CHURCH


[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Nile#1441
Russians have done their own thing for centuries.


[16-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Nile#1441
Pouty-pusses over Ukraine


[16-Oct-18 11:30 PM] ononim#8141
Yo I heard you liked schisms, so I put a schism into your schism


[16-Oct-18 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
I heard your church is fascist so I split the church because slav fascists being slav


[16-Oct-18 11:32 PM] Nile#1441
I can only pray they change their mind, severing from Constantinople is no good.


[16-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did someone say Sherman Gang


[16-Oct-18 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
G E O R G I A    B O N F I R E S


[16-Oct-18 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let's march on Tbilisi!


[16-Oct-18 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait, wrong Georgia


[17-Oct-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the banjoes await


[17-Oct-18 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1klvQB2yf8

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[17-Oct-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
peter


[17-Oct-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
thumbnail looks vaguely jon stewart-like


[17-Oct-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
damn


[17-Oct-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
i miss the old daily show


[17-Oct-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
trevor noah can't make jokes, he _is_ just a sad joke


[17-Oct-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
🅱eter


[17-Oct-18 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Peter Coffin sounds *dead* serious


[17-Oct-18 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Amirite


[17-Oct-18 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
😂👌


[17-Oct-18 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
When he and his wife does it, it's called putting the nail in the coffin. :^)


[17-Oct-18 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Legit Coffin's stream joke


[17-Oct-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent watched new daily show


[17-Oct-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and due to a fued between viacom and suddenlink awhile bakc i missed john stewarts final episode


[17-Oct-18 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve seen ads of the new daily show which are just long segments of the actuall show pasted onto youtube as ads


[17-Oct-18 02:10 AM] Nile#1441
Trevor Noah's Daily Show is just so bad.


[17-Oct-18 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
jon stewart was so consistently fucking funny


[17-Oct-18 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and he tore cnn to shreds for being a shitty news network


[17-Oct-18 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
fox too


[17-Oct-18 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Are we talking  l a t e   n i g h t   c o m e d y   s h o w s ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDBIZDeaGfk

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Episode 215 https://www.patreon.com/posts/19178987
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[17-Oct-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jon stuart was fuckign awesome


[17-Oct-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as was stephen colbert


[17-Oct-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the segments i've seen of the new daily show are so boring


[17-Oct-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i dont knwo what replaced colbert


[17-Oct-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cohen/trump-says-former-lawyer-cohens-testimony-was-totally-false-ap-idUSKCN1MQ31D?il=0

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Trump says former lawyer Cohen's testimony was 'totally false': AP
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that his former attorney Michael Coh...


[17-Oct-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am so shocked at this news


[17-Oct-18 02:21 AM] Nile#1441
Samantha Bee is even worse.


[17-Oct-18 02:21 AM] Nile#1441
It's incredible that she has a show.


[17-Oct-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it also on comedy central?


[17-Oct-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Earlier shitfests in this chat would make better dialog for today's late night shows


[17-Oct-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tom oliver is alright but he;s not as great as critics claim he is


[17-Oct-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the only video's for his solo show i;v ewatched were ads on youtube


[17-Oct-18 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was fun on daily show though


[17-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgQP2EWamz0

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Follow my instagram 💪🏻😤💪🏻: https://www.instagram.com/alex_stark007/
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[17-Oct-18 02:36 AM] Nile#1441
John Oliver, btw @prism stryder(intexda)


[17-Oct-18 02:36 AM] Nile#1441
Not Tom


[17-Oct-18 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i realized already i just didnt correct it


[17-Oct-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like him but i think he was better when he had people to work off of


[17-Oct-18 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
John Oliver's schtikk is good, but it does get boring when it's too long.


[17-Oct-18 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't enjoy watching Oliver much anymore


[17-Oct-18 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
His "jokes" are getting more absurd and PC


[17-Oct-18 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah he was a lot better with jon stuart


[17-Oct-18 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
because he was written by jon stewart's writers


[17-Oct-18 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
makes sense


[17-Oct-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's essentually doing serious issues with some absurdity comedy mixed in, it's okay, but not terribly funny.


[17-Oct-18 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent actually watched colbert's talk show either


[17-Oct-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just another late night talk show with basic humor about how bad things are


[17-Oct-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing like the old Colbert


[17-Oct-18 03:04 AM] Nile#1441
Colbert's old show was amusing since he was just being comedic and playing a character. His actual shtick is just like the rest of the late-night talk show hosts.


[17-Oct-18 03:10 AM] ononim#8141

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[17-Oct-18 03:15 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[17-Oct-18 03:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Youtube is broken, the AI are taking over


[17-Oct-18 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE WORKER UPRISING BEGINS NOW COMRADES

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[17-Oct-18 03:18 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/06/save-earth-disposable-coffee-cup-green

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[17-Oct-18 05:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@ononim  So basically we can only stop environmental destruction if we get rid of ourselves as a species. Our insatiable appetite for food and everything thanks to our ever burgeoning population no matter what we do, is going to wreck this planet.


[17-Oct-18 05:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So stop existing. Good luck telling people to give up their latte


[17-Oct-18 05:38 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Soylent is the solution


[17-Oct-18 05:39 AM] LemonDrop#9571
people need to stop eating food for enjoyment and get with the program


[17-Oct-18 05:39 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they will eventually, we're gonna run out of food some day if population keeps going up and we'll be forced to abandon the whole "xd I love eating food cus it tastes good" mentality


[17-Oct-18 05:40 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just another flaw with humans tho, everyone is so infatuated with their emotional state


[17-Oct-18 05:40 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and companies prey on this in the domain of food for example, selling people food which is unhealthy but laced with magic chemicals that make our not-so-useful-anymore fruit detectors in our brain go crazy


[17-Oct-18 05:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they make a lotta money and all is fine and good, but it's just retarded


[17-Oct-18 05:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
The amount of land and resources dedicated to like killing millions of animals and making all these exotic foods is just a horrible waste, the amount of time people waste preparing food and going out to eat and just all this stupid bullshit


[17-Oct-18 05:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Soylent obvs might not be the real solution but I just mean any sort of meal replacement like that, we def have the technology to live on one homogenous manufactured substance giving everyone the nutrition they need for cheap and in a convenient way, but people refuse it, that or they just don't care as most lazy humans do


[17-Oct-18 05:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Regarding coffee, caffeine is another great example of that tho, lacing a drink with psycoactive drugs to get people mentally and physically addicted such that they continue buying this rather unhealthy drink for no real purpose, people are just so pathetic


[17-Oct-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
if you think caffeine is bad, wait until you see nicotine


[17-Oct-18 05:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[17-Oct-18 05:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean there's varying degrees of sadness in humanity


[17-Oct-18 05:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
coffee isn't the worst thing ever compared to some shit people do


[17-Oct-18 05:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
things that fuck you up much more like alcohol, cigarettes which are somehow a thing still


[17-Oct-18 05:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
>vaping


[17-Oct-18 05:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I just wanna punch every person who does that in the face


[17-Oct-18 05:48 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Either way, we're fucked no matter what we do


[17-Oct-18 05:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Of course


[17-Oct-18 05:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
we're flawed


[17-Oct-18 05:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
we shouldn't need to even make such a complex mixture of chemicals to sustain our body


[17-Oct-18 05:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just inefficient still compared to consuming energy more directly from how we harvest it


[17-Oct-18 05:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
In general all animal life is just inherently flawed


[17-Oct-18 05:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the main source of energy on this planet is sun and plants or other photosynthesizing organisms were like some of the first things to really just be extremely abundant on earth


[17-Oct-18 05:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that all works fine and dandy but animal life is like a destructive sort of thing which destroys other life in order to survive


[17-Oct-18 05:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
we cannot even harness the main energy source of the planet directly


[17-Oct-18 05:52 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just the most retarded design ever


[17-Oct-18 05:52 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the only things that fuel humans are very specific chemicals and compounds p much only found on earth in their natural form and that's just hilarious to me


[17-Oct-18 05:52 AM] LemonDrop#9571
all this energy in the universe and that's what we're stuck with


[17-Oct-18 05:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
meanwhile ya look at the energy production in terms of like electricity and we're just generating insane amounts compared to how much the human race intakes, but we just can't use it at all for existing and still struggle with world hunger


[17-Oct-18 05:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
tfw my computer is taking in enough energy to feed 10 people


[17-Oct-18 05:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and what does it cost me


[17-Oct-18 05:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like $10 a month


[17-Oct-18 05:55 AM] LemonDrop#9571
With stuff like this it's no surprise that I expect computers to replace us lol


[17-Oct-18 05:57 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just in the interest of math too, human at 100W uses 74kWh over the period of a month


[17-Oct-18 05:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and at the cost of about 12 cents per kWh that's about $8.88 to pay for a human in electricity cost


[17-Oct-18 05:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
more like $100 a month in food tho, or more


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
much more for most


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
have you seen how expensive soylent is


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
soylent is cheap


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I wanted to get it but the price deterred me


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I pay $100 a month for it


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and I get more than I can eat


[17-Oct-18 05:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can't just compare it to other foods on like a pure caloric value and all that either


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like sure if I buy a tub of lard it'll be cheap and have like infinity calories


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's also just horrible for you to eat


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
soylent is healthy


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem with refined lard is that it has more or less no minerals


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and other things


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like you cannot just get all your calories from fat


[17-Oct-18 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
e.g. Na+, K+, Mg+


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
well, you can, but it's risky


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
soylent carefully tweaks its ratios such that you get the right calories from protein vs fat vs carbs


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't get calories from protein except in kwashiorkor


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
well that's what they say


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
proteolysis is the last metabolic phase before death


[17-Oct-18 06:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
regardless it's just a representation of a healthy mixed diet into one homogenous substance


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, I know


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't have to go on about it


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can totally eat heathy but you need to intake a lot of things to get that diverse representation of shit


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it's byte[] approved™


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and that ends up costing more than it


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like I still eat pasta a lot


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
usually 2 of my meals per day are soylent and the third is pasta cus it's dirt cheap and just whatever


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
pasta is pretty bad for you


[17-Oct-18 06:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
sue me


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
read the above


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
sue yourself


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
thank me later


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye they just don't recommend eating soylent 100%, I could prob do it but I'll just wait until its more refined


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they mainly say that for saftey reasons


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
probably because you'll get the shits


[17-Oct-18 06:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they can't market it like that cus it might not work for everyone


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and get into legal trouble


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
you can probably use it as a complete meal replacement


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think there's anything wrong with it


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] LemonDrop#9571
people have done it for multiple years with no issue


[17-Oct-18 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
just make sure to match your caloric input and output


[17-Oct-18 06:05 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye I do like what it's trying to do, it can help feed a lot of people if they just get over their whiney but me want STEAK attitude


[17-Oct-18 06:05 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the bland flavoring of it too helps with that


[17-Oct-18 06:05 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just no reason to enjoy it


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't "enjoy" it and that's good


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
you would probably be better served by IV nutrition, tbh


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
you're kinda special


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean that'd be more efficient I bet


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
not really


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
not when you compare the costs


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] LemonDrop#9571
The entire gastrointestinal system makes me wanna die with how convoluted it is


[17-Oct-18 06:06 AM] LemonDrop#9571
which is ironic coming from me


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but shh


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the GI tract can efficiently detoxify substances


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes it had a purpose at one point


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so did taste


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to be very careful with IV substances


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but they serve no purpose anymore


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
anything a little off from that can be very serious


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
we have brain and brain can help determine what is proper to shove into you


[17-Oct-18 06:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no need for taste or anything complex


[17-Oct-18 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and the mods say I don't allow fun


[17-Oct-18 06:08 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[17-Oct-18 06:08 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye I know there's like banana bags, but indeed those aren't like readily available for people to just buy in a cheap way


[17-Oct-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm actually souped up on caffeine right now


[17-Oct-18 06:09 AM] LemonDrop#9571
more just medical use


[17-Oct-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Got a killer headache dealing with a deceptive problem


[17-Oct-18 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Needed some relief


[17-Oct-18 06:10 AM] LemonDrop#9571
tfw it'll only make the headache worse


[17-Oct-18 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it knocked it out completely


[17-Oct-18 06:10 AM] LemonDrop#9571
for now


[17-Oct-18 06:10 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just you wait


[17-Oct-18 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't really understand the pace of tolerance


[17-Oct-18 06:12 AM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps not but I do know it's just fucking you over


[17-Oct-18 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
how? it's a vasoconstrictor


[17-Oct-18 06:12 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's forming an addiction


[17-Oct-18 06:12 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you need the caffine now


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't really understand how that works either


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no u


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
probably because you're too scared to try it


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] LemonDrop#9571
too woke to you mean


[17-Oct-18 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not going to get up tomorrow and think "fuck, I had a caffeine tablet yesterday, let's go fucking swallow three"


[17-Oct-18 06:14 AM] LemonDrop#9571
oh but you will


[17-Oct-18 06:14 AM] LemonDrop#9571
don't ya know what caffeine withdrawal is


[17-Oct-18 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
you get that after consuming it for months


[17-Oct-18 06:15 AM] LemonDrop#9571
some of my friends suffer from drinking too much coffee and describe how painful it is


[17-Oct-18 06:15 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so just never start


[17-Oct-18 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't happen in a single day of having it


[17-Oct-18 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
in a few months


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I have enough self-discipline not to get myself dependent on caffeine for _this exact usecase_


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd still argue tho that it's forming a dependence


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
its vasoconstrictive properties are excellent for occasional headaches


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
now you rely on it to solve your headaches


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
your body knows it can releive that so you just end up with worse headaches


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know how you think addiction and dependence work, but they definitely don't work the way you think they do


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and a lack to cope with that as a thing in your brain


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
That's horseshit


[17-Oct-18 06:16 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ur horseshit


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's true tho


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
My brain doesn't "know" or "do" anything that causes headaches


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it does though


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Besides interacting with you,  of course


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
subconsiously it knows there is something to make you feel good


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Caffeine doesn't make me feel good


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's primitive reward stuff built into you


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
It makes me feel like shit


[17-Oct-18 06:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[17-Oct-18 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
But it takes the ridiculous pain away


[17-Oct-18 06:18 AM] LemonDrop#9571
still that's an improvement


[17-Oct-18 06:18 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's gonna affect you


[17-Oct-18 06:19 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you want what feels good


[17-Oct-18 06:19 AM] LemonDrop#9571
if you do not know what pleasure feels like you cannot desire it


[17-Oct-18 06:20 AM] Nile#1441
This again


[17-Oct-18 06:20 AM] soundtea#7559
Just more of Lemon wanting to be a dead inside robot


[17-Oct-18 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
you can get dependent on caffeine because it interferes with neural adenosine receptors, which create the feeling of being tired. the way this works is repeated, persistent exposure to the molecule. once in a month is not that. your cells will not adapt to it if you take it once a monh.


[17-Oct-18 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
not even remotely


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm talking psycological addiction


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
anything can cause it


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Then get your fucking shit together


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
even just enjoying playing computer games can


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
sure it's "easy" to resist


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's always there nagging at you


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
as I said, if you never experience it you can never desire it


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't need to consume caffeine if I don't have a headache


[17-Oct-18 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I rarely have headaches


[17-Oct-18 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
If I were to have them more frequently I would stop taking the caffeine after a day and seek medical assistance


[17-Oct-18 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know where you see the addiction potential here


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I hate most caffeinated beverages and do not consume it casually


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I just mean you should  suffer through the headache


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what I do


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you'll get used to it and eventually put up your own mental solution to the pain


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] Nile#1441
lol


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah, because you're a retard


[17-Oct-18 06:23 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no need for external influence


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm never like waah waah I have a headache


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] Nile#1441
We have remedies for a reason.


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no, we don't


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
You're arguing that what might work for you is de facto the best solution


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] Nile#1441
No one wants to just sit through a headache because we just should deal with it


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
That's fallacious in every respect


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it's the best solution


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
pain is an illusion


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all in your head


[17-Oct-18 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
It is not


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] Nile#1441
Pain is a physical thing we feel.


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
sure but how we interpret it is an illusion


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it could just as easily be pleasuable


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just sensory info


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
your brain is quite complex and adaptable


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can resist pain and build up tolerance to it


[17-Oct-18 06:25 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just like anything else


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you remember what I said just a moment ago about tolerance


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye but these are brain drugs


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
:>


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
There is no difference in the adaptation, you moron


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
You need persistent exposure to get tolerant


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] soundtea#7559
Do you seriously think feeling no pain is a good thing


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the difference is that I will never run out of these ones


[17-Oct-18 06:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you may run out of your magic juice one day and completely break down


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
gl getting lost in the wilderness buddy


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Occasional headaches are not persistent exposure


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
not really


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Nice goalpost moving


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
10/10


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like years of exposure


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not totally active all the time yes but nor is most pain


[17-Oct-18 06:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but you can still build tolerance slowly


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
no, you can't


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
you cannot


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] Nile#1441
Will I build a tolerance to being stabbed multiple times


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] LemonDrop#9571
then maybe I'm just some dank superhuman cus I seem to have things you lack


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I have so many models that can prove you wrong


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the only proof I need is my own rejection of drugs to deal with a simple headache


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] Nile#1441
Your ideas rhyme with dank


[17-Oct-18 06:28 AM] Nile#1441
Rank


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
and that goes back to what I said earlier


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
also @soundtea ye of course


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
pain is an illusion


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I wish my brain would just be like


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
just because it works for you doesn't mean it's the best solution


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
btw you're on fire


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd be a lot easier to focus on putting myself out without you know


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the pain of being on fire


[17-Oct-18 06:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
pain is just a detriment now that we have a higher level brain


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
clogs up rational thought


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but we can't do much about that


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] Nile#1441
Pain is our sense to let us know something is wrong.


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
You're too stupid to debate anything

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[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so is just informing you of it


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
maybe most people are too retarded to know being on fire is a bad thing


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but a simple warning message would be fine


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
goodbye


[17-Oct-18 06:30 AM] Nile#1441
We're more committed to reacting to painful sensation to help us solve the problem.


[17-Oct-18 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Just for the record


[17-Oct-18 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been on fire multiple times before


[17-Oct-18 06:31 AM] soundtea#7559
Watch Lemon collapse like the dumbshit he is because his nerves decided to not send any pain because his ankle was fucking up


[17-Oct-18 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Both clothing and skin


[17-Oct-18 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
The fire was out in seconds every time


[17-Oct-18 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I did not run around screaming wildly


[17-Oct-18 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Nor was it really that painful


[17-Oct-18 06:36 AM] Nile#1441
oof


[17-Oct-18 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Safety shower saved my sorry ass a few of those times


[17-Oct-18 06:40 AM] Nile#1441
What did you do to be set on fire


[17-Oct-18 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
get methane soap bubbles on me and light them on fire


[17-Oct-18 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
knock over a bunsen burner


[17-Oct-18 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
knock over a bunsen burner again


[17-Oct-18 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
always wear your safety squints


[17-Oct-18 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
seriously don't fuck around with that


[17-Oct-18 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
skin can survive severe burns and acid


[17-Oct-18 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
your eyes cannot


[17-Oct-18 08:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Is lemon ok


[17-Oct-18 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tfw people believe we're at peak ineffeciency when if anything we're too effecient. Got enough homes to house the homeless and enough food to feed the world 1.5x over. The issue is we don't have enough, that it's not being distributed well.


[17-Oct-18 08:07 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yup


[17-Oct-18 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And you could even get away with planting crops together in some cases if land area is at issue. Communes among the Spanish Republicans in the Spanish Civil War doubled their crop yields by planting potatoes among their oranges for instance.


[17-Oct-18 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vs sewing single crop fields.


[17-Oct-18 08:10 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Don't some crops grow better with another plant? Also you could probably plant corn and peas/beans together, the corn could act as something for the peas to climb


[17-Oct-18 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's what the Indians did. They'd plant squash with beans and corn. The squash leaves would shade the ground preventing weed growth, and the beans would help enrich the soil on account of being legumes, and the corn would support the beans as supports.


[17-Oct-18 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
The issue with this is labor demands in harvesting, which is contradictory to the demands for effeciency for profit's sake.


[17-Oct-18 08:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
And not, you know, keeping land and chemical impact small.


[17-Oct-18 08:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's all programs in the work to revive other native practices. I think it's in the Philippines or south-east Asia in general where rice can be planted alongside other complimentary crops as well as fish nurseries, the idea being that the two or three products there would feed into each other in a cycle and reduce waste and also keep a diverse range of food stuffs in the same general location.


[17-Oct-18 08:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm not well versed in that though.


[17-Oct-18 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)

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Three Sisters (agriculture)
The Three Sisters are the three main agricultural crops of various Native American groups in North America: winter squash, maize (corn), and climbing beans (typically tepary beans or common beans). Originating in Mexico, these three crops were carried northward, up the river ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/2009NativeAmericanRev.jpg


[17-Oct-18 08:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Das est.


[17-Oct-18 11:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/22/did-uber-steal-googles-intellectual-property

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Did Uber Steal Google’s Intellectual Property?
Silicon Valley was built on job-hopping. But when a leader of Google’s self-driving-car unit joined Uber, Google filed suit. Now the Feds are on the case.
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[17-Oct-18 11:45 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Oh dear


[17-Oct-18 03:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[17-Oct-18 04:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd rather have a dog for president tbh


[17-Oct-18 05:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[17-Oct-18 05:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-kerch-explosion/teenager-kills-17-in-crimea-college-shooting-russian-officials-idUSKCN1MR1BB?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

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Teenager kills 17 in Crimea college shooting: Russian officials
At least 17 people were killed and dozens injured at a college in the Black Sea ...


[17-Oct-18 05:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yup


[17-Oct-18 05:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
more deaths than in columbine shooting


[17-Oct-18 05:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Woah in Russia??


[17-Oct-18 05:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Technically Crimea is an Ukraine territory


[17-Oct-18 05:38 PM] Mikey#7286
O


[17-Oct-18 06:01 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I kind of expected Nebbie with his usual crap here. What the heck is happening? Something ain't right here


[17-Oct-18 06:02 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@PwnyPony Ban all leashed! They are symbols of dog slavery to mankind


[17-Oct-18 06:37 PM] Nile#1441
wtf


[17-Oct-18 07:38 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
When your religion and large portions of your society thinks it's normal to execute one for infringing on certain antiquated religious laws and impose other draconian policies on people, and compels people to do shit in the name of your deity at an age when  such practices are largely frowned upon by most mainstream religious bodies. They need to reassess their entire goddamn religion and by extension their society, make drastic overhauls before they even think about trying to integrate into 20th/21st century societies.


[17-Oct-18 07:39 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Is this an appropriate section for this talk?


[17-Oct-18 07:39 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'll delete it if mods aren't happy with it

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[17-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Nile#1441
When in Rome, I guess


[17-Oct-18 08:14 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nile Basically


[17-Oct-18 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Ban religion

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[17-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[17-Oct-18 09:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Considering how many problems religion causes I wouldn't mind


[17-Oct-18 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
>They probably don't know the sick sikhs


[17-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nile#1441
You're Sikh? I hope you get well soon


[17-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nile#1441
:op:


[17-Oct-18 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
the six sick sikhs


[17-Oct-18 10:20 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well usually when I say religion I mean more mainstream religions, small ones like Sikh usually aren't causing problems


[17-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Large organizations that operate as untaxable entities with political goals


[17-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yup


[17-Oct-18 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'll have you know Sikhs are pretty damn major.


[17-Oct-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
They just ain't much outside of the Punjab, because anglos came


[17-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Nile#1441
We have Sikhs here


[17-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Nile#1441
A lot of them


[17-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
As long as Sikhs are being respectful I don't mind them


[17-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Nile#1441
I'll get the occasional Uber driver with the Sikh symbolism hanging in his car


[17-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I have no issues with individuals who follow religious practice, my issue falls more on the religions who try to push themselves into politics and create a theocracy


[17-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nile#1441
Very few people are advocating for any new theocracies.


[17-Oct-18 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
except (long list of members from long list of religions)


[17-Oct-18 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I don't mind X so long as they're not doing Y" is such a faulty ethical claim.


[17-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nile#1441
People advocate for their religion all the time, even I do. I'm still not seeing anyone demand theocracy.


[17-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well I think the biggest examples would be middle eastern countries and some Christian politicians


[17-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nile#1441
@AaronMk Reminds me of people who use the NAP as their compass to measure morality.


[17-Oct-18 11:27 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Most dangerous of all the radicals are those who try to paint themselves as religious and political moderates to make themselves seem more palatable to the masses. But they tend to show their true colours once they get into positions of power and acquire the means of production. They have ways of working themselves into institutions, industries, fandoms, etc. Often times through nepotistic approaches and getting hired then eventually working themselves up as a moderate for years before they go crazy and start changing up the systems to fit their agendas.
 If their initial assault of public shaming, harassment, and ad hominems dont make their said targets capitulate in shame. They would try to find their ways in or attempt to influence some from within whom they may have either intimate relationship and/or share similar sentiments with.


[17-Oct-18 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying radical commies will want to disguise themselves as socdems


[17-Oct-18 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, it took me a long time to more-or-less understand what the fuck did you even mean by that


[17-Oct-18 11:35 PM] ononim#8141

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[17-Oct-18 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
me


[17-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Nile#1441
Welcome to politics


[17-Oct-18 11:36 PM] ononim#8141
I am like, not even most radical anti-theist then it comes to action, hell, I am probably more of radical-ish anti-clerical, but every time some sentient sack of fat form Russian Orthodox Church opens its mouth and spews some bulshit, I feel some urges


[17-Oct-18 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Knowing Selaphiel, he's probably implying the feminists there, despite the fact that they're politically pretty damn harmless


[17-Oct-18 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's always the feminists, for reasons i cannot fully comprehend


[17-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nile#1441
Feminists are gay, but they've been neutered.


[17-Oct-18 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
It's mostly conflated with SJWism these days


[17-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Nile#1441
I mean if I'm being honest, if I was a woman I would keep the feminist label away still.


[17-Oct-18 11:56 PM] Nile#1441
Even if they are fringe, the SJW kinds of people give the image that feminism would be a movement for the overweight, dyed-hair types.


[17-Oct-18 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sort of like how no one gives a shit for the Alt-Right or Alt-Lite label


[17-Oct-18 11:57 PM] Nile#1441
Instead of being seen as someone pertaining to a movement claiming to fight for women's equality, it'd instead be seen as someone who complains about sexy billboards and #freethenipple advocates.


[18-Oct-18 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's some nice beetles in boxing


[18-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Nile#1441
Beetles in what now


[18-Oct-18 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're not really describing anything real but the private fantasy of a sect of people far out and outside of the regular arena of discourse. You have the concept of a thing, which is described as a thing, but is not the thing. It isn't even really the thing as it is outside of your box.


[18-Oct-18 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're describing your own beetle.


[18-Oct-18 12:16 AM] Nile#1441
Keep in mind I wasn't saying this is what I believe of the feminist movement itself. I'm asserting that it's entirely within reason someone would have that image if they were online for long enough.


[18-Oct-18 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's entirely the problem and point I was making. That it's an image that exists online. In particular one that a rather small and unimportant part of it has. It has no relevance. Gamers aren't taken seriously.


[18-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Nile#1441
tbf gamers shouldn't be taken seriously


[18-Oct-18 12:47 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
As much as I would say I lean feminist I do agree there are those who are really bad and honestly are a shame to society


[18-Oct-18 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
who takes gamers seriously?


[18-Oct-18 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
they're just gamers


[18-Oct-18 12:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
You mean you don't go to gamers for your upmost important political information? /s


[18-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
no lol


[18-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
i play games for run and relaxtation


[18-Oct-18 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
>playing _gay_ mes


[18-Oct-18 01:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gamers are a threat to feminists, republicans, democrats, trans people and school children based on all the things I heard on the news. 😈 🎮


[18-Oct-18 01:45 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Guess we have to ban gamers now


[18-Oct-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/10/16/knightscope-robot-security-patrol/

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The security force of the future is already patrolling several neighborhoods in the Tri-State area.
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[18-Oct-18 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
"We'll return to normal when the vague notion of something dangerous recedes. We swear. It'll happen eventually, when The Threat is gone."


[18-Oct-18 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

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A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
Hint: It has to do with race.
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[18-Oct-18 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, a lot of people voted for Obama for various reasons, including racists, but those racists came to regret their choice because WAIT A MINUTE BLAKK GUY IN CHARGE HELPING BLAKKS and then Trump pushed their buttons super hard and won their votes, while the non-racists stuck to Clinton.


[18-Oct-18 07:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWlulurdWaitWhat:


[18-Oct-18 07:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Youre telling me that majority of us citizens are racist coz they voted for trump


[18-Oct-18 07:48 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats sound really stupid


[18-Oct-18 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what I said.


[18-Oct-18 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some percent of voters are racist


[18-Oct-18 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some subset of those voted for Obama in 2008, and some subset voted for Obama in 2012


[18-Oct-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically all of them switched to voting for Trump in 2016


[18-Oct-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And many switched from 2008 to 2012


[18-Oct-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further data shows that polarization increased along racial lines during Obama's time in office.


[18-Oct-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leading to the conclusion that actually having a blakk in office scared away many racists from the Democratic side


[18-Oct-18 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the switch from Obama to Trump among certain voters is most likely related to that, plus Trump's rhetoric drawing them in.


[18-Oct-18 12:00 PM] ononim#8141
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An Alberta MLA has drawn parallels between the legalization of marijuana in Canada and the communist revolution in China.
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[18-Oct-18 12:01 PM] ononim#8141
Judge Juddy Pointing at the Watch.gif


[18-Oct-18 12:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
North Koreans smoke pot. Therefore Canada will go full  J U C H E


[18-Oct-18 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[18-Oct-18 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thias arguement is stupid  as shit


[18-Oct-18 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"i;m going to compare pot to opium and since opium lead to a crisis in china that emans pot will lead to canadian crisis!"


[18-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/growing-number-of-republicans-sounding-a-lot-like-democrats-ahead-of-elections/2018/10/17/783400ee-d09f-11e8-83d6-291fcead2ab1_story.html

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Growing number of Republicans sounding a lot like Democrats ahead ...
GOP candidates are co-opting the Democrats’ message on health care, teacher pay and #MeToo in the final stretch to next month’s midterms.
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[18-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you've really won is when your enemy stops fighting you.


[18-Oct-18 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think we'll see universal healthcare until at least 2020, but this is a sign that Republicans might not even aggressively fight to stop it.


[18-Oct-18 08:11 PM] Nile#1441
RINOs

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[18-Oct-18 08:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
2020 is optimistic for America. before 2040 may be a more realistic guess.


[18-Oct-18 08:35 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
As you may have heard. Pot just became legal in Canada.


[18-Oct-18 08:35 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Many people in the Asian community here OPPOSE such move


[18-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
2badsosad


[18-Oct-18 08:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ban plant! 🍁


[18-Oct-18 08:40 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They better regulate the stuff like they would regulate tobacco


[18-Oct-18 08:40 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Reduce emissions they say.... CRANK UP TUE POT SMOKE


[18-Oct-18 08:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The legalization still doesn't stop some cities from passing bylaws that would prohibit the opening of pot stores. The city of Richmond for example recently passed something of that sort


[18-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
But pot plants actually net reduce pollution


[18-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, pot plants are the one thing you can plant that GREATLY improves air quality


[18-Oct-18 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Carbon neutral plant


[18-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
they soak up airborn contaminants like no other


[18-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if you burned every single leaf, you wouldn't release all that bakk into the air.


[18-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav stems and roots too


[18-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even if you burned all that, it's a net 0 change


[18-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with fossil fuels is that the carbon they absorbed was from millions of years ago and it's been replaced by carbon that was held in the earth itself.


[18-Oct-18 08:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone needs to breed a type of pot that reproduce like common grass plants  and release it into the wild. Nobody would be allowed to have a garden.


[18-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
pot pretty much does grow that fast


[18-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
but because it's illegal


[18-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
it gets uprooted by people


[18-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically, what needs to happen is a patchwork of legality that allows it to actually get footholds in places


[18-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then it'd be all over people's gardens (it already shows up from time to time at random)


[18-Oct-18 09:12 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Cannabis is a very versatile plant. No doubt. Look at the list of uses for it. You'd be amazed


[18-Oct-18 09:15 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
More importantly. It could just save a lot of trees. For paper


[18-Oct-18 09:16 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Save land from cotton plantations for clothe making


[18-Oct-18 09:33 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I find it baffling how feminists seem to be able to wail at Christianity over it's supposed treatment of women. When in reality, the religion has had some of the best track records in terms of treatment between the two genders in modern history as far as most major religions go especially in the Abrahamic circle. When they seem to have no problem designating Islam as a "feminist" religion despite it's "wonderful" track record of treatment towards women to this day and age. 
Have they not forgotten that many major feminist movements in history had and we're founded on Christian roots?


[18-Oct-18 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody's claiming islam is feministic


[18-Oct-18 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except for maybe a nutty few


[18-Oct-18 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, take a look at Brazil's christian conservative movement


[18-Oct-18 09:38 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Huffington Post


[18-Oct-18 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't have a pretty feministic track record if you ask me


[18-Oct-18 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christianity is a mixed bag depending on what country you look at


[18-Oct-18 09:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
>HP is the definitive anything


[18-Oct-18 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Harry potter is the definitive wazard


[18-Oct-18 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tough to understand, i know, but ALL abrahamic religions have their fair share of historical bigotry


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually when leaders of said religions use and twist the religion into nightmare realms to suit their own needs


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well some of the tiems anyway


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One thing to notice


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I've read Christian feminism as being that time in medieval Europe where girls were sent as symbolic gifts to monestaries, where they would be locked in a room and walled up for most of their life to live a life of prayer as a super nun. Sure they actually learned how to read and got three square meals a day, but it's not really the freest life.


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In 19th century China


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 just Abrahamic Faith's?


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was a large scale rebellion led by a weirdo Christian dude


[18-Oct-18 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which killed 20 million people, approximately


[18-Oct-18 09:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm sure pagan and folk religions had their share


[18-Oct-18 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's true


[18-Oct-18 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, abrahamic religions tend more towards some form of bigotry, at least in my opinion


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
What's funny is. Christianity is the single fastest growing religion among Chinese, worldwide today


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that tends to happen when you dot have multiple gods balancing the books


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
But that's contextual to its movements and is even contextual to the feminist framework you might subscribe to. Certain Christian feminists would be in support of it I imagine because it creates a defined and strong role for a woman in society. Vs other schools. The complete equality of gender in Sikhism might be more comparative to the general image of feminism as being a movement for general equality in society than any sort of metaphysical equality.


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
A large chunk of my community is Christian


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That also happens when the core of your doctrine tends to be "follow the book and believe in only one god, and don't question it too much"


[18-Oct-18 09:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
A Christian China would be fabulous!


[18-Oct-18 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Exotic, sure, but one led by someone like Hong Xiuquan would be nutty af


[18-Oct-18 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at elast we aren;t doing ritual blood sacrifices anymore outside of crazxy murder cults


[18-Oct-18 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Christian China won't happen because /ConfucianGang/ is back bby


[18-Oct-18 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee


[18-Oct-18 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that i know of


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A Christian China would still be China in some way, though


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Merge Confucian teachings with Christian ones


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nile#1441
Christianity is popular in parts of Asia among younger people


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like how many countries who became Muslim retained their particular identity


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Like how Romans merged Roman customs with Christianity


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only to a small extent


[18-Oct-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well romans did that so christianity woudl spread faster amongst roman citizens


[18-Oct-18 09:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Like how Germans merged Christianity with their own customs


[18-Oct-18 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, that they did, tbf


[18-Oct-18 09:46 PM] Nile#1441
Plenty of Germanic peoples worshipped Wotan and Jesus


[18-Oct-18 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christmas was a pagan traditiont hat got merged with christianity in order to draw in mrpoe people and compete with the winter festivus


[18-Oct-18 09:47 PM] Nile#1441
Though you shouldn't probably do that


[18-Oct-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
People rag on christianity because it's popular in the west


[18-Oct-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no inherent reason to save criticism because two other related religions do the same thing


[18-Oct-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, this is the religious equivalent of BSABSVR


[18-Oct-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both Sides Are Bad, So Vote Republican


[18-Oct-18 10:04 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
>Republican


[18-Oct-18 10:04 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Can I vote Liberal?


[18-Oct-18 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is the party equivalent of "But you are lynching negros"


[18-Oct-18 10:04 PM] Nile#1441
wut


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soviet propaganda tactic


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US would say the Soviet Union has way less freedom


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Oh, this is /pol/


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Soviet Union would respond "but you are lynching negros"


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I'mma gtfo now.


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't an argument about race


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
just, that's what the Soviets actually would say at the time


[18-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They pointed to something the US was doing and thus could say both sides were bad


[18-Oct-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thus fallaciously assert that they were superior to the US


[18-Oct-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pretty simple "one time you got a parking tikket, so vote for me, the guy who rapes children and eats them"


[18-Oct-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, religions treat women like shit in general because more babies = more people in your religion


[18-Oct-18 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity had the luxury of relatively stable nation-states starting with Rome and extending to various European nations


[18-Oct-18 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
that reduces the importance of grabbing the nearest 12-year-old and making sure she bore *your* children as opposed to the neighboring tribe's


[18-Oct-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
since your "tribe" was a whole huge nation a lot of the time


[18-Oct-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Compare the old testament with the new and it's a stark difference.


[18-Oct-18 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old testament, everyone is constantly out for genocide, and that's what it tends to be like when everyone's a bunch of tribes with limited resources and no big nation-state controlling things.


[18-Oct-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time Jesus is around, political disagreements still involve some horrible execution, but you don't also then genocide everyone usually.


[18-Oct-18 10:15 PM] Nile#1441
That's the time when Rome was around. Pay your taxes and keep your head down and there would be no need for killing.


[18-Oct-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Islam meanwhile stayed in the Middle East


[18-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And with Rome gone, not many stable nation-states there


[18-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Constant conflict makes women just another resource.


[18-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
got my first ever election ballot by mail, woo
now how the *fuck* do I choose


[18-Oct-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Choose what? Party?


[18-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Litrojia#0612
Candidates and all that. I'm kinda centrist


[18-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which state?


[18-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Litrojia#0612
rather not say, though I know it's buried somewhere in the server


[18-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You really should know candidates already at this point, tho.


[18-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Litrojia#0612
I know basics about the major races


[18-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hard ones are usually the "I don't know any candidates in this race so I hav to guess at their views"


[18-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Local non-partisan elections with really minor stuff are the worst


[18-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
No info anywhere, names don't even get many results on google


[18-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you hav no idea even which side of the divide they're on


[18-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the races here is for supervisor of the conservation district


[18-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
being that this is the largest superfund site in the country, probably kind of an important job


[18-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
most local elections are unopposed


[18-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
best I could figure was two of the names were businesspeople


[18-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so the third probably isn't out to make a quikk bukk off of preventing environmental efforts


[18-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, if you're centrist, and you mean *actually* centrist, Dems are basically your thing


[18-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
if however you mean *centrist in relation to the parties*


[18-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
hoo boy


[18-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Litrojia#0612
I was raised Republican but have drifted left over the past couple years


[18-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[18-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
environment vs. business


[18-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think the EPA is doing a good job, and do you think Florida Gov. Rick Scott is doing a good job with his deregulation?


[18-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
environment is probably the biggest reason for me to vote left, especially in big elections


[18-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping in mind that Florida now has toxic green slime all over the place.


[18-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well then, that's a pretty big deal right now


[18-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are at the moment pushing super hard to keep the deregulation train Trump's on going


[18-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a recent study found that it's unrealistic to keep warming below 1.5 C without massive changes *now*


[18-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, basically if nothing changes by 2025 then even crazy strong efforts would still lead to 1.5 C of warming.


[18-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
What about healthcare?


[18-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah I've heard, not a fan of recent environmental policy


[18-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
What recent environmental policy?


[18-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
not, not but, damn phone autocorrect


[18-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah.


[18-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, healthcare


[18-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
preexisting condition coverage is the hot issue right now, some Republicans are conceding on that one


[18-Oct-18 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would liek to afford mroe of it yes


[18-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I can just about guarantee they will never bakk single-payer or any form of universal healthcare, certainly not medicare for all, and so, what do you think as far as that?


[18-Oct-18 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think we shoudl club mcconel int he face with a brick but that's a seperate issue


[18-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
(it's a long-shot to actually get either of those, but currently only Democrats, led by Bernie, are pushing for new reforms)


[18-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
Honestly don't have any strong opinions on that. Probably lean left


[18-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, perhaps to put things another way


[18-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
what do you think about employer dependence on healthcare in general?


[18-Oct-18 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s dumb that it has a work horu requirement


[18-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think it's okay if someone has effectively their life ruined by medical costs in the case of an accident, that it was their own fault for not paying a large amount to get insurance?


[18-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, what do you think as far as the percent of per-capita GDP spent on healthcare? (The US pays a lot more than countries with universal healthcare, and the per-capita amount we spend on medicare actually is about the same as the UK spends on *universal single-payer healthcare*)


[18-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ergo, it seems that by having medicare-for-all, we would spend the same amount of money at the gov't level per-person, but just plain remove spending by the individual person.


[18-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Litrojia#0612
Save your explanations for another time. I have to go


[18-Oct-18 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
We should pre-assume the existence of any and all exchange and throw everything into the same common stockpile.


[18-Oct-18 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck bitches get money


[18-Oct-18 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
copulate females dogs acquire currency


[18-Oct-18 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Assume the flow of capital and all future exchange and facilitate the flow of free goods and services trough the use of labor. Bank all unused value on cash money in a common credit union for later use should the system become disturbed by anamolious activity such as war or natural disasters.


[18-Oct-18 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then copulate with other organisms


[19-Oct-18 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fornicabitur meretricibus, monetae capto


[19-Oct-18 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[19-Oct-18 12:19 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[19-Oct-18 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Oct-18 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
darn


[19-Oct-18 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[19-Oct-18 12:20 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[9/15] @BadgingBadger🦄🌈: the lewd yoditax emoji is named sosmol fyi


[19-Oct-18 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
whatever


[19-Oct-18 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
.q @AaronMk


[19-Oct-18 12:22 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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what kinda nark changes the title of their video a month after upload? https://www.youtube.com/user/hbomberguy
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[19-Oct-18 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
good enough


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[3/15] @BadgingBadger🦄🌈: lol


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[15/15] @BadgingBadger🦄🌈: Soybadger


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
.q @AaronMk


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[3/3] @AaronMk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1YOO3yPQ0

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Adam S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1YOO3yPQ0
loss.jpeg gives birth to hbomberguy (CTRL+ALT+DEL | SLA:3)
what kinda nark changes the title of their video a month after upload? https://www.youtube.com/user/hbomberguy
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cY1YOO3yPQ0/hqdefault.jpg


[19-Oct-18 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Whatever, again


[19-Oct-18 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, important shit for nerds with an hour to kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJuOF2MFsJo&t=0s

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Wes Cecil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJuOF2MFsJo&t=0s
Transvalutaion of All Values: The Individual and the Community
The second lecture in the Transvaluation series delivered by Wesley Cecil PhD. at Peninsula College. This lecture explores the place of the individual within...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZJuOF2MFsJo/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Oct-18 12:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It seems Facebook has been purging political accounts and even non-political ones by mistake, left and right. Including the account of the guy who got Alex Jones banned.


[19-Oct-18 12:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They've fucking lost it man


[19-Oct-18 12:43 AM] Nile#1441
Big oof


[19-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Deleted User#0000
So the Holy Scriptures were right, Hell is real


[19-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nile#1441
As if there was any doubt


[19-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[19-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Deleted User#0000
>>1831603


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[19-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
This is the only server with a political channel. I always find these videos interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9jhor8qQB8

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The Humanist Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9jhor8qQB8
Breakdown of Trump’s Unintentionally Hilarious, Unhinged 60 Minu...
Get early access to our content by supporting us on Patreon or PayPal! Sign up here: http://www.patreon.com/humanistreport or here: http://www.humanistreport...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E9jhor8qQB8/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Oct-18 01:25 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Cozy Glow wait really?
I thought it's a standard for servers willing to put up with the crap


[19-Oct-18 01:25 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Another serve I go to has one.... Or had one. Until it died


[19-Oct-18 01:25 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The channel I mean


[19-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nile#1441
I have a lot of political-minded servers


[19-Oct-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Posting here because 🅱ernie and ThUS P o L i t I C a L

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[19-Oct-18 03:25 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
lul


[19-Oct-18 04:59 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uidFk09bSp4

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uidFk09bSp4
Two Republican Candidates Were Just Physically Attacked And Injured
Support me on Patreon http://www.patreon.com/timcast Buy stuff from me http://www.teespring.com/stores/timcast Hang Out - https://discord.gg/fEHem77 Tune in ...
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[19-Oct-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, it must be HILLARY with her MIND RAYS


[19-Oct-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really odd for this to happen in Minnesota, but it's crazy to connect this to something that any organized wing of the left is doing


[19-Oct-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the assailants was an anarchist, even.


[19-Oct-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other one was mad about treatment of the middle class


[19-Oct-18 05:08 AM] ononim#8141
whoum even cares nowadays about hillary besides dem top


[19-Oct-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, both assailants are unhappy for reasons of upper classes controlling things at the gov't level.


[19-Oct-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, microscale workers revolution.


[19-Oct-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soviet Anthem etc. etc.


[19-Oct-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not great to hav those sorts actually around, they tend to just stir up trouble instead of actually get change happening.


[19-Oct-18 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
D I R E C T   A C T I O N


[19-Oct-18 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
H A Y   M A R K E T   2   T H I S   D E C A D E


[19-Oct-18 08:09 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
@SeraphimDawn Nope! Every other server just right out bans political discussion.


[19-Oct-18 08:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/QbXTDuwSVkk

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Beau of the Fifth Column
https://youtu.be/QbXTDuwSVkk
Let's talk about guns, gun control, school shootings, and the "law...
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[19-Oct-18 03:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/

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https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?


[19-Oct-18 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what happened that they have no government?


[19-Oct-18 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're anarchists now /s


[19-Oct-18 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
Ulster Commune or Ulster Free Territory?


[19-Oct-18 05:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The short of the story is  "Eww Gay"


[19-Oct-18 05:57 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@PwnyPony then what is North Ireland ?


[19-Oct-18 05:57 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Irish people confuse me


[19-Oct-18 06:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
When the rebels took Ireland back from the Brits they were not able to take it all back. So the land is spilt. The north part belongs to the UK still.


[19-Oct-18 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://fortune.com/2018/10/18/universal-postal-union-trump-china-trade-war/

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http://fortune.com/2018/10/18/universal-postal-union-trump-china-trade-war
Trump's Latest Salvo in His Trade War With China? Pulling Out of a...
Trump wants better rates for American businesses, or the U.S. is out.
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/gettyimages-1051887648.jpg


[19-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Northern Ireland can't use the devolved powers it has


[19-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the UK can't simply use them in the meantime


[19-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
so certain gov't powers just...can't be used.


[19-Oct-18 10:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XckDlD0OM8s

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LAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XckDlD0OM8s
NI tourist board advert
Fair play to the NI tourist board. Their new advert really captures the essence of are wee cuntry.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XckDlD0OM8s/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Oct-18 10:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8JqKxrloQQ

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BBC Northern Ireland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8JqKxrloQQ
The Blame Game: Flegs
Jake O'Kane takes on the 'flegs' issue on the Blame Game
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o8JqKxrloQQ/hqdefault.jpg

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[19-Oct-18 10:59 PM] DeviantXS#2468
https://nyti.ms/2CTwRCA

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By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
https://nyti.ms/2CTwRCA
U.S. to Tell Russia It Is Leaving Landmark I.N.F. Treaty
President Trump has been moving toward leaving the treaty because Russia has been violating it and because it is constraining American efforts to counter China in the Western Pacific.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/20/us/politics/20dc-nukes/20dc-nukes-facebookJumbo.jpg


[19-Oct-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*this will go over super well, This won't backfire in anyway what so ever*


[19-Oct-18 11:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493236786475302924/502948785241063454/IMG_20181011_193821.jpg

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[19-Oct-18 11:52 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Culturally speaking. What are the differences between Northern Ireland and the independent south?


[19-Oct-18 11:55 PM] ononim#8141
North is still under occupation


[19-Oct-18 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it dates back to when ireland was under the iron thumb of brittain


[19-Oct-18 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure whether nrothern ireland jsut remained loyal or if britain jsut wont hat battle  i need tor eread thaT PArt


[19-Oct-18 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
culturally though southern ireland despises britain


[19-Oct-18 11:56 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I know. But how far have they diverged from the rest of the island culturally?


[19-Oct-18 11:57 PM] Nile#1441
Not really a lot


[19-Oct-18 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo about cultural shifts though


[19-Oct-18 11:57 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Irish Spring soap smell different lately...


[19-Oct-18 11:58 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I wonder if shit is going on there


[19-Oct-18 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is irish spring even made in ireland?


[19-Oct-18 11:58 PM] Nile#1441
They're all Irish, the only real tangible difference today is the North Irish are loyalists.


[19-Oct-18 11:59 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Are Welsh people Celtic?


[19-Oct-18 11:59 PM] Nile#1441
Yes


[20-Oct-18 12:00 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
If I'm not mistaken. They were the reminent of the Celts who once populated most of what is now England.


[20-Oct-18 12:02 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[20-Oct-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Northern Ireland are protestants. Everyone else is Catholic


[20-Oct-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Protestants hate the pope but love the Queen, Catholics were starved and beaten


[20-Oct-18 12:02 AM] Nile#1441
Here

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[20-Oct-18 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
```
18:05:42     <RepentantAnon>    how is making kids with cancer feel better by sending them to camp better than helping beat cancer
18:06:44     <@byte[]>    the same way that when you send jews to camp, it makes the germans feel better
18:06:51     <RepentantAnon>    >:V
```


[20-Oct-18 12:08 AM] Nile#1441
oof


[20-Oct-18 12:45 AM] Deleted User#0000
*En attendant de* some music channel, here's some Chinese blues for no particular reason


[20-Oct-18 12:45 AM] Deleted User#0000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGQ9IIqmJM

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Guan Pinghu - Topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGQ9IIqmJM
Flowing Water
Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises Flowing Water · Anonymous · Guan Pinghu Treasures Of Chinese Instrumental Music: Guqin ℗ 2012 Domo Records Rel...
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[20-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Deleted User#0000
wtf I'm a Taoist now


[20-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Deleted User#0000
*The Pony that can be spoken of is not the eternal Pony* etc.


[20-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Mikey#7286
My god is....


[20-Oct-18 01:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Science and the universe


[20-Oct-18 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
God is dead


[20-Oct-18 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
and his death was the life of the world


[20-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
But how can he be dead


[20-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
If he never existed?


[20-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Deleted User#0000
God exists and is the Universe.


[20-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Deleted User#0000
Signed: SpinozaGang


[20-Oct-18 01:15 AM] Deleted User#0000
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[20-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/802785/former-hillary-clinton-adviser-says-theres-chance-run-2020

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Philippe Reines, who worked for Hillary Clinton going back to 2002 and was her senior adviser at the State Department, made the argument to Politico Friday that the former Democratic nominee might actually be the party's b...
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[20-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please dont


[20-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just please dont


[20-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
No no no no no no no no no


[20-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
Fuck off hilary


[20-Oct-18 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we please shove her in a crate and ship her to a different country? would that be considered an act of war with whatever coutnry we shipped her to?


[20-Oct-18 01:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Taiwan IS a part of China.
... just not the People's Republic.


[20-Oct-18 01:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼


[20-Oct-18 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
got it, we can ship hillary to taiwan


[20-Oct-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taiwan invades mainland China when?


[20-Oct-18 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
>than dependingl on which party is in power in taiwan it's possible that ROC would be the further left in second Chinese Civil War


[20-Oct-18 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Taiwan discovers the power of Kim Chwa-Chin


[20-Oct-18 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Perfect


[20-Oct-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
Than again, the Kuimotang rival party is less Chinease and more Pro-*Taiwanese* so any scenario with them in power in the war would be them defending


[20-Oct-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not causing Chinese Civil War 2 Cultural Bugaloo and radicalize the Maoists and Anarcho-Maoists who spurg out in an alliance with the KMT in order to turn China into the greatest number of nations possible, who become united as autonomous polities in a multi-lateral union that is their free association


[20-Oct-18 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Not ressurecting Sun Yat-Sen


[20-Oct-18 04:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not admitting that the PRC is the conclusion of Chiang Kai-Shek China and reburying him there and turning Zhou Enlai's body into a source of infinite green energy as he spins.


[20-Oct-18 06:22 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Dear Hillary fuck off


[20-Oct-18 06:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
If she lost last time against trump she's just gonna lose again, plus she sucks and is scum


[20-Oct-18 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's also going to probably try the same dnc buy out stunt she tried last time, screwing over a far better candidate and lettign trump win presidency again


[20-Oct-18 06:57 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The fact that the establishments all over are trying this hard to push her into power is frightening.


[20-Oct-18 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's rich


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is basically democrat trump


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not as dumb though


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's a lot smarter and more willing to listen to others than him, but at the end of the day, she's a rich asshole.


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
She just wants power because why not


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
nah she's an old hag


[20-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
without really caring about the moral issues that the party wants her to solve.


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
you'd think after two losses she'd get the hint


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's *rich*


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is trump if trump were a ebtter listener and actually smarter


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people do not behave like normal people.


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The world is essentially handed to them on a silver platter.


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
hell


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich people are dicknuts


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They tend to not take hints.


[20-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
i'd think after losing to the oompa loompa she'd give up


[20-Oct-18 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the thing, she wrote an entire book basically saying that her oss was none of her fault but the fault of bernie sanders and everyone else


[20-Oct-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she has a superiority complex the size of africa


[20-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Mikey#7286
blaming poor bernie


[20-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Mikey#7286
what a bitch


[20-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Mikey#7286
i hope she loses by a landslide


[20-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she blamed bernie, the dnc for not bakcing her hard enough, trump, the votrers, the parties, obama


[20-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you name it it got the blame


[20-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her book was basically the tantrum she couldnt fit on twitter


[20-Oct-18 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her book also sealed my decision to never vote for her ever evne if she is the last hope for earth;s survival


[20-Oct-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile throws every possible tantrum on twitter


[20-Oct-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't recommend spiteful voting in this manner


[20-Oct-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause if she really does run again


[20-Oct-18 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will be keen on shafting us hard again


[20-Oct-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/world/canada/marijuana-pot-cannabis-legalization.html

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Legalizing Recreational Marijuana, Canada Begins a National Experiment
On Wednesday, Canada becomes the first major world economy to legalize recreational marijuana, presenting the country with enormous public policy challenges.
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[20-Oct-18 08:59 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm already smelling the unpleasant odour everywhere. People are smoking them in places where you're normally not allowed to smoke tobacco, like public transits


[20-Oct-18 09:00 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And rowdy addicts who cause havoc


[20-Oct-18 09:01 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They clearly have no coherent plans in place to keep order in light of this.


[20-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
OH NO SOCIETY WILL CRUMBLE


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
society will collapse! boys will play with dolls! girls will play with toy trucks! horses will eat other horses!


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It won't.


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But they clearly don't have any coherent systems in place to enforce the usage of the stuff


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a tiny temporary problem


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's a big deal.


[20-Oct-18 09:04 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
No Smoking means NO SMOKING


[20-Oct-18 09:05 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Do they really think it only applies to tobacco?


[20-Oct-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Oct-18 09:05 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Kids are on transit too


[20-Oct-18 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[20-Oct-18 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
math r34


[20-Oct-18 09:08 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Need to maintain a level of civility here. Legal or not.


[20-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
People do that naturally given time.


[20-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your insistence on order is silly.


[20-Oct-18 09:10 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They should be subjected to the same set of rules put upon tobacco smokers


[20-Oct-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let shit catch up. It's probably too much for your dear police to get a reign on.


[20-Oct-18 09:11 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Make sure the stuff is kept well away from chidren


[20-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the end of the world if a few kids here and there smoke pot


[20-Oct-18 09:11 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Like they do for alcohol


[20-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe barely bothers with restricting alcohol and they're quite fine.


[20-Oct-18 09:12 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
How fine? I wonder. Granted drug users of sort are a minority


[20-Oct-18 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty damn fine.


[20-Oct-18 09:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Bringing European standards to North America... Right


[20-Oct-18 09:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You can't expect everyone to behave in a similar manner. Culturally schisms are vast


[20-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Denmark, Germany, the UK, France, and a few other places hav a pretty crazy teen drinking rate


[20-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
it causes marginally more problems


[20-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the rest of Europe is basically like the US with drinking


[20-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure why those, but basically it's the main participants of WW1-2 minus Poland


[20-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I'd assume it's to do with having good economies


[20-Oct-18 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or too little to do.


[20-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much only the UK has unemployment problems among those


[20-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people work more per week than in the past


[20-Oct-18 09:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Working more per work


[20-Oct-18 09:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds like a nightmare tbh


[20-Oct-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, France has some strict laws to prevent it getting bad.


[20-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
But even then, in practice work weeks there reach 40+ hours


[20-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
While Americans will work 50


[20-Oct-18 09:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There is no such thing as a one size fits all solution. Vast differences in logistics prevent everyone from working the same way


[20-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't mean everything needs to be a damn custom-fit insanity and that there can't be comparisons


[20-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
people are psychologically essentially the same everywhere and will respond to similar things similarly


[20-Oct-18 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
culture is a layer on top of that that can tweak things, but never is just completely different.


[20-Oct-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
"There is no such thing as a one size fits all solution. Therefore some people need to work far MORE because that's a good thing. There's no reason it has to happen. Just not me. I don't want to be inconvenienced."


[20-Oct-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is some maximum ideology.


[20-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's some good evidence working this much is bad for us


[20-Oct-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that what France is doing with less hours per week increases overall productivity


[20-Oct-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/small-business-network/2015/jul/13/french-workers-more-productive-brits

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Why are French workers more productive than Brits?
In France people work fewer hours and take more holidays than their peers across the Channel. So why are they more productive?
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[20-Oct-18 10:04 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I just come back and read "Hillary is basically democrat trump" ain't that the truth


[20-Oct-18 10:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[20-Oct-18 10:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
U boat medical bottle.


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[20-Oct-18 10:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Oh boi...


[20-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Hmmm it's a historical bottle? Like yeah nazis were shit but one bottle doesn't make you a nazi


[20-Oct-18 11:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-220 Found on the beach. wonder when they lost it.

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[21-Oct-18 12:20 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@PwnyPony  You know the Germans made great things


[21-Oct-18 01:33 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
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[21-Oct-18 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's wrong with the state being a nanny?


[21-Oct-18 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nannies are kind and help you grow up to be a responsible adult.


[21-Oct-18 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nannies are generally some of the best people in a person's life.


[21-Oct-18 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that kind of unconditional trust and support is what can make people rise up and actually accomplish things.


[21-Oct-18 03:33 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
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[21-Oct-18 03:34 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie you're right! A nanny would never let our kids do whatever they want for fears of their safety. Such caring people


[21-Oct-18 03:34 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
If only we had such luxury


[21-Oct-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A nanny would let you go to a party, but educate you about drinking responsibly and ask that you be home by a certain time.


[21-Oct-18 03:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And tell you that clapping is disrespectful and racist


[21-Oct-18 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a hell of a strawman.


[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
How the hell do we go from "nanny" to "clapping is racist"


[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
we seemed to missed some steps


[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't handle the idea that helping people is a good thing


[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and wants to focus on possible restrictive aspects


[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] ononim#8141
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[21-Oct-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
of course, injecting in SJUW bullshit from nowhere because he needs a straw man to burn.


[21-Oct-18 03:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I see


[21-Oct-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
"nanny state nanny state nanny state they'll say you can't do ___ because it's racist" is a good way to deflect from talking about the actual issues that the gov't is trying to regulate


[21-Oct-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, gov't says we should tax soda or ban plastic bags, then NANNY STATE NANNY STATE


[21-Oct-18 03:53 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/20/president-trump-pulling-out-nuke-treaty-russia/1712994002/

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President Donald Trump said Saturday he would pull out of a Cold-War era treaty with Russia that limited the number of missiles in each country.
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[21-Oct-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the particular case with the UK


[21-Oct-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav actual laws against hate speech and harassment that are pretty restrictive.


[21-Oct-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, I'm not a big fan of the hate speech side of that especially, but saying the police asking people to report more incidents is NANNY STATE is a bit overboard.


[21-Oct-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police in the UK operate under a model of being involved in the community to prevent crime and settle things calmly.


[21-Oct-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They need the community to tell them what's up to do that


[21-Oct-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're not like the US police that sit around and then later barge in to your house with guns because they heard a blakk guy might've been using his door key.


[21-Oct-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, I found the source of the clapping thing, @Starlight Glimmer <3


[21-Oct-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The video talks about how a particular university said not to clap because it can cause problems with people with anxiety disorders.


[21-Oct-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sela connected that racism of course for no reason.


[21-Oct-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The video mentions multiple things involving asking people to stop being loud and such at sporting events so as not to put pressure on kids


[21-Oct-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which...aren't even to do with the gov't restricting things


[21-Oct-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's individual schools trying to stop people from becoming shitty at soccer games when they grow up.


[21-Oct-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and giving the kids a break from constant noise in the meantime.


[21-Oct-18 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good we are gearing up for nuclear war


[21-Oct-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has been for years


[21-Oct-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like the arms reduction treaties and they want to go bakk to the cold war, essentially


[21-Oct-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it makes it easier to oppress your own people when they hav an enemy to fear that can bomb them to oblivion.


[21-Oct-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putin of course being a hardcore cold war guy


[21-Oct-18 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
woo can't wait for nuclear devastation


[21-Oct-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, Putin has to be stopped


[21-Oct-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The path he's on is very dangerous.


[21-Oct-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump too, tho Trump wouldn't want to go to cold war


[21-Oct-18 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want him to die untimely of a heart attakc instead of as some grand epic martyr for the cause of soviets


[21-Oct-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh trust me


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd bullshit that he was assassinated if he died of a heart attakk


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is sooooo deep into lying


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they wpould


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
at one point they made a press release


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
showing the various meetings Putin was having


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but scrutiny of the images showed they were from the same day


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like it was meant to show Putin as busier than he was


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was no great need to do so


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia just...can lie


[21-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so they do.


[21-Oct-18 04:08 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Oh great nuclear war


[21-Oct-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well hopefully my tiny area will be spared sicne i live 3 miles outside a tiny famr town


[21-Oct-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless russia just decides the ebst targets are every single walmart in america


[21-Oct-18 04:12 AM] Mikey#7286
can't wait for real life Fallout!


[21-Oct-18 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well sicne we dotn have vaults to save our asses we probably wont survive


[21-Oct-18 04:13 AM] Mikey#7286
welp


[21-Oct-18 04:13 AM] Mikey#7286
it was nice knowing you all


[21-Oct-18 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again given republicans im sure they;d be happy to set up the vaults to test their insane batshit experiments in


[21-Oct-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure vault tech woudl be one of their happiest lobby groups


[21-Oct-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't hav enuff nukes to take out every Walmart in America


[21-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody does


[21-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Mikey#7286
they could probably devastate major areas at least


[21-Oct-18 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true at this point wlamart outnumbers humans


[21-Oct-18 04:21 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
damn


[21-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
When all the humans are dead, the roaches will shop at Walmart.


[21-Oct-18 04:42 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Walmart will exist beyond humanity


[21-Oct-18 04:42 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Aliens will take over the franchise


[21-Oct-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart IN SPACE


[21-Oct-18 04:46 AM] Mikey#7286
pls no


[21-Oct-18 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the walmart space program


[21-Oct-18 05:40 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.dailywire.com/news/37131/walsh-elizabeth-warren-just-destroyed-identity-matt-walsh

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/37131/walsh-elizabeth-warren-just-destroyed-identity-matt-walsh
WALSH: Elizabeth Warren Just Destroyed Identity Politics Forever
Elizabeth Warren's supporters are gloating after the senator released DNA results proving, once and for all, that she is extremely white.
https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph/public/uploads/2018/10/warren_1.jpg?itok=ayUIL0fP


[21-Oct-18 05:40 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Whiter than the reputed white supremacist, Richard Spencer.


[21-Oct-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In *actual* news https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/amid-khashoggi-uproar-many-saudis-see-a-foreign-plot-and-rally-around-their-prince/2018/10/20/29de7a7a-d3a9-11e8-a4db-184311d27129_story.html

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/amid-khashoggi-uproar-many-saudis-see-a-foreign-plot-and-rally-around-their-prince/2018/10/20/29de7a7a-d3a9-11e8-a4db-184311d27129_story.html
Amid Khashoggi uproar, many Saudis see a foreign plot and rally ar...
Even if they were stunned by the sudden admission of Saudi involvement in the killing, few are brave enough to criticize.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/AjPK77uwmqjTVKTru_tssL-uUpM=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/WQQZ44WUYMI6RMWS6OLSE62D6A.jpg


[21-Oct-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saudi Arabia is busy feeding propaganda to its citizens, who are eager to eat it up after the Prince did such great things as "legalize movies"


[21-Oct-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“It is difficult to do everything perfectly 100 percent of the time,” said Khalid Tamimy, 42, a human resources specialist visiting the mall with his wife and three young children.'


[21-Oct-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, it's real damn hard to not kill journalists. Being Prince is tuff, man.


[21-Oct-18 05:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Scumbag Saudis


[21-Oct-18 05:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Fuck Iran, fuck Saudis


[21-Oct-18 05:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Iranians are cool people mind you


[21-Oct-18 05:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But fuck their politics!


[21-Oct-18 05:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie that thing about conservative controversy culture not being correct most of the time


[21-Oct-18 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's what i've seen people describe as the "Sargon Effect"


[21-Oct-18 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read in between the lines and cues and notice the nuances, and the issue reveals itself as way less serious than the right tries to paint it as


[21-Oct-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, a lot of it's nitpikking to paint the left as one uniform enemy that's out to steal your freedoms


[21-Oct-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
One Sargon video he was outraged over...some alt-right posters being disallowed in a public space


[21-Oct-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
like...okay


[21-Oct-18 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/550d2a368f094eccb15d20276eabfc21

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https://apnews.com/550d2a368f094eccb15d20276eabfc21
South African city set to seize land in national 'test case'
EKURHULENI, South Africa (AP) — As South Africa's passionate debate over land redistribution grows, one city outside Johannesburg is preparing what the mayor calls a "test case" for the nation — the seizure of hundreds of acres of land from private owners, without paying ...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:4a5385f036c04bddbc8ed938ee71e650/3000.jpeg


[21-Oct-18 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it didnt work out for zimbabwe let;s see how it works fpor johannesburg


[21-Oct-18 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not well


[21-Oct-18 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are those acres of lands are fucking farms and they are very likely owned by white poeple


[21-Oct-18 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/conservatives-mount-a-whisper-campaign-smearing-khashoggi-in-defense-of-trump/2018/10/18/feb92bd0-d306-11e8-b2d2-f397227b43f0_story.html

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/conservatives-mount-a-whisper-campaign-smearing-khashoggi-in-defense-of-trump/2018/10/18/feb92bd0-d306-11e8-b2d2-f397227b43f0_story.html
Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defen...
A cadre of conservative House lawmakers is fueling false reports depicting the missing Saudi journalist as allied with Middle Eastern terrorists.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/S_v_SeATuu63JtutRVUowtAkpDc=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NFCLP6GTDMI6RMWS6OLSE62D6A.jpg


[21-Oct-18 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Christian Murican patriots" supporting a sharia law regime


[21-Oct-18 06:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is just bizarre, or maybe not, considering T-Dog's cult of personality


[21-Oct-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not surprising


[21-Oct-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
givne their version of "christianity" is all about sharia law


[21-Oct-18 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also probably have hundreds of illegal business deals goiugn with the saudi government, as well as weapons trades


[21-Oct-18 07:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
GWADS LAW


[21-Oct-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Ban religion


[21-Oct-18 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[21-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nile#1441
🙄


[21-Oct-18 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
Well no offense but religion causes a lot of problems in the world


[21-Oct-18 07:49 PM] Mikey#7286
It's partially responsible for some wars and it turns some people into absolute idiots


[21-Oct-18 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't mind people being religious and I know most are sane people like you and Zaknel but the loud ones are not making things good


[21-Oct-18 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no thye arent


[21-Oct-18 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the loud ones are also usually the msot corrupt and twisted


[21-Oct-18 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[21-Oct-18 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or soemtimes thye arent even really in the religion itself and are jsut using ti as a mouthpeice for gain


[21-Oct-18 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like what i beleive msot of the republicans are


[21-Oct-18 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't buy for 2 secodns that msot of those fuckers in crongress are at all christian


[21-Oct-18 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[21-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
religion is a perpetual source of fallacious reasoning by both people and policymakers, and if it had never existed in the first place, I feel it would be easier for people to see through the transparentness of many common appeals


[21-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
(especially those to morality)


[21-Oct-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Speaking of religion https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html

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By ERICA L. GREEN, KATIE BENNER and ROBERT PEAR
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html
Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence
The Trump administration is considering a legal definition of gender as immutable and fixed at birth, the most drastic in a series of moves against transgender people.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/21/us/politics/21dc-trans1-print/merlin_118592405_c8ae76c8-1a46-4ef3-9237-efe1e988e0a3-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Oct-18 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even without the whole "choose your gender" thing, the idea of not accepting that sex has changed after a sex change operation is asinine.


[21-Oct-18 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And such a position is pretty much a Christian thing


[21-Oct-18 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buddhism actually accepts sex changes, as the Buddha wrote down some stuff about them in a hypothetical discussion


[21-Oct-18 08:13 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well now I have another reason to hate the trump administration


[21-Oct-18 08:13 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Can they leave their religion out of their politics pls


[21-Oct-18 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The discussion being "what if by some act of heaven someone's sex changes?" in regards to sex-based limitations on who can be in what part of a Buddhist monastery


[21-Oct-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the obvious answer is "well then their new sex is used"


[21-Oct-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody expected this to ever be a real problem not just because it would be crazy to be able to change sex, but also because...are you fukking dumb? Just accept that it's changed, man.


[21-Oct-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Starlight Glimmer <3 religion fundamentally is political because religions were created as, essentially, political parties using stories of magic in the sky


[21-Oct-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Torah is essentially a lawbook with fairy tales woven in.


[21-Oct-18 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Quran meanwhile skimps on the law in favor of justifying revolution.


[21-Oct-18 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then the New Testament is like "Okay, the Torah was a little crazy, let's forget that for a moment and talk about welfare programs"


[21-Oct-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most modern day American Christians pretty much act like they only read the Old Testament


[21-Oct-18 08:18 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I just don't get people trying to apply thousands of years old stuff to modern day


[21-Oct-18 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
People dislike the idea that morality changes based on the environment


[21-Oct-18 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
even as they read the story of how Moses said that God commanded that they kill the men, kill the women, kill the little boys, and rape the little girls.


[21-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or the story of how that one time God saw a city full of teh gays and because most of them wouldn't share, he murdered all of them, and then because the wife got curious, he murdered her via salt transformation.


[21-Oct-18 08:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
yes very much applicable to 21st century /s


[21-Oct-18 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or the story of two brothers who gave God some offerings and God totally rejected one for no reason whatsoever, and then got all mad when the guy ended up killing his brother in a jealous rage, then proceeded to giv that brother eternal protection from death in pity so he could go around being the source of all evil.


[21-Oct-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religious types are sikkening for the fact they are trying to apply ancient political dogma to the modern day.


[21-Oct-18 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Old Testament God was such an incomprehensible troll


[21-Oct-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry, but we aren't in a world where you just ethnically cleanse your neighbors because they speak a different language and worship funny statues.


[21-Oct-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old testament god was clearly the villain of that book


[21-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Trump's base believes that villain to be the good guy, that's the problem.


[21-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'm perfectly content as agnostic, not completely denying the possibility of a deity but also not following ancient gods that can't be prove to even exist


[21-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
If God exists, he is evil and must be destroyed.


[21-Oct-18 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My God is basically the guy i very occasionally talk to in my mind when i'm feeling sad


[21-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Binding of Isaac btw is pretty messed up too


[21-Oct-18 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my god is i dont really have a god and im kind of tired when people give him credit whenever i do things for them


[21-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
pretty much God goes "kill your son for me", Abraham goes "k", Angel goes "WHOA WHOA WHOA DUDE STOP HERE'S A RAM I WAS KIDDING"


[21-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Tbh in a way gods like Zeus are almost more believable bc they don't try to act like Zeus is absolutely perfect and can do nothing wrong


[21-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And literary analysis of it suggests that in the original version, it was probably that Abraham *did* kill his son


[21-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Mikey#7286
My God is god probably does not exist


[21-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
as the littany of babies born after the sacrifice involve names that put together mean to sacrifice someone.


[21-Oct-18 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer the norse,roman, and greek gods


[21-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The angel crap was added in later.


[21-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah same Intexda


[21-Oct-18 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i coudl see the norse gods beign cool dudes to hang out with


[21-Oct-18 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then Christian zealots have the audacity to call pagan gods "primitive" or "inconsistent"...


[21-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yup


[21-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because like half the Old Testament is about killing any pagan you meet


[21-Oct-18 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im haldf surprised the old testament doesnt tell people to sew their neighbor's skin into bed sheets but for all i know that got edited out


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would be mixing fabric


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Nile#1441
You have quite the imagination


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
only priests were allowed to do that


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Constantinople Councils edited out a lot of stuff


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And also edited in a lot


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
leather + cotton was seen as a holy mixing.


[21-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, the Old Testament explicitly forbids wearing leather and cotton.


[21-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
wtf


[21-Oct-18 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the reasoning behind that?


[21-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
bc it's sacred probably


[21-Oct-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preists needed special holy wear that peasents couldnt wear


[21-Oct-18 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[21-Oct-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also cotton clothing is comfortable and if people are comfortable then they;re happy and less likely to follow your ass


[21-Oct-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, you aren't allowed to mix crops


[21-Oct-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
must be only one species, one strain, for your entire field


[21-Oct-18 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just why?


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
because in those days, many rival religions believed in increasing yield via crop mixing as part of their fertility stuff


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Old Testament people really care about purity


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nile#1441
As if purity is a dirty concept.


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any farmer following this is incredibly dumb, so none do.


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Something that makes me chuckle is how christian doctrine tells us of heaven and a good afterlife if you do good stuff, but forbids suicide


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old Testament even specifies that if some guy steals your daughter away


[21-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
he has to pay for her


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
a specific amount of shekels


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, i can't help fifty old ladies cross the road and then shoot myself to go to heaven


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet some people argue that we should kill the gays because of Leviticus


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those people are psychopths


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forbidding suicide was about keeping the peasants working until death.


[21-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they died too early, less work and thus less grain.


[21-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I bet they hate gays bc they expect all women to bear kids


[21-Oct-18 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wouldnt explain the hate of gay males but yeha that;s part of it


[21-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's the point


[21-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
in order to spread your political views


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't really debate other views away easily


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you can make kids, lots of kids


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gay couples dont produce mroe babies for your psycho cult


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and indoctrinate them.


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything that stops you having kids is evil, like birth control or abortion.


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or women being able to think for themselves.


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more babies for the psycho cult


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Makes sense


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nile#1441
IOf you don't want kids, don't have sex.


[21-Oct-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to just bend over that 12 year old and let her bear it to term


[21-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how they did it in Moses' day.


[21-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
You can dictate people's sex lives


[21-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Can't


[21-Oct-18 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's also why the bible doesnt liek anal


[21-Oct-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though int hose times anal also lead to diseases


[21-Oct-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but then everything did


[21-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kosher is entirely about basic food safety


[21-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Made irrelevant by modern standards, of course.


[21-Oct-18 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically yeah


[21-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Nile#1441
Kosher is gay


[21-Oct-18 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
partsof religious texts are about health and safety but a lot of it is about keeping your working class int he mines praying to your ass and making babies


[21-Oct-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The New Testament is a lot about being okay to the working class but like


[21-Oct-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
nobody listens to it.


[21-Oct-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it got bolted on to the Old Testament that's far more crazy.


[21-Oct-18 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the new testament is the one everyone shoudl be following


[21-Oct-18 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ifyou want to be religious


[21-Oct-18 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the new testament was basically their attmepot to rebuild the ruels in a far less psychopathic manner


[21-Oct-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately it got stapled to the odl testament so everyone has to go through psychoville to get to helpful town


[21-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It pretty much takes the moral concepts of the Soddom and Gamorra story and removes the "God murders people because he's an asshole" aspect.


[21-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I lost interest in religion after growing up in a super Christian household.


[21-Oct-18 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i lost interest after it surrounded my youth


[21-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nile#1441
A good understanding the Old Testament helps to understand Jesus and why he is important to Christians.


[21-Oct-18 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
religious parents avoided me because my name soudned too close to a supersttion


[21-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
My parents were never into religion


[21-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nile#1441
Even if you don't like it, it's good to know about.


[21-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
My grandparents for sure are religious


[21-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think grandma just didn't know enuff about it to pass any of that on.


[21-Oct-18 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thank God (ironically) that my family isn't very religious to begin with


[21-Oct-18 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my parents beleive in god and jesus but in more of a sane way


[21-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, people don't buy into religion when they hav freedom to think


[21-Oct-18 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more in the "thank you god for leading me to save this cat form the kill shelter" kinda way


[21-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to get religion in early to get people into it.


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We only went to Sunday church when we were at grandma's town, and even then, she gradually presented herself as accepting of family members who ignored it


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nile#1441
Not exactly true Nebbie


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's part of a broader psychological thing


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
first idea usually wins.


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people get atheist ideas first, they're very unlikely to change away from them


[21-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And these days, atheist ideas will be first if religious ideas don't come early


[21-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I grew up going to church from birth and I'm still agnostic


[21-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause at the end of the day, science tells us some of the shit in Christianity is a lie


[21-Oct-18 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of what turned me form religion was those stupid little christian comics


[21-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
In order to make the two compatibility, you basically need to forget Genesis is part of the bible.


[21-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Nile#1441
I grew up non-practicing Anglican, became agnostic, then came back to Christianity.


[21-Oct-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) lol, i think i heard of them


[21-Oct-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What was the name of that christian comic book author


[21-Oct-18 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"heres a comic about a kid being bullied, no oen helps him so he commits suicide, but instead of the bullies getting theirs the little boy goes to hell :D"


[21-Oct-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That made some wacky cartoons


[21-Oct-18 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why woudl you give these comics to kids


[21-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nile#1441
Just because the bullies did wrong doesn't mean the first kid did nothing wrong either.


[21-Oct-18 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile dude wtf


[21-Oct-18 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody helped the boy


[21-Oct-18 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is the kid went to hell and burned while th ebullies got off scott free


[21-Oct-18 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He committed suicide because he felt that his life was shit and there was no escape from it


[21-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
depression is an illness of the mind, it's not something easily changed without help


[21-Oct-18 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forget who the author is


[21-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Nile#1441
There's always an escape, but suicide is a weak-willed escape.


[21-Oct-18 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
depression has prongs


[21-Oct-18 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it was one fo those little comics int he form of those tiny black horizontal flip book style things


[21-Oct-18 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
in general, one needs a consistent sleep pattern, a strong social life, and a healthy sex life to stave it off


[21-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Suicide happens bc nobody helps the sick person


[21-Oct-18 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
without them it starts to sink in


[21-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nile#1441
I doubt that there was nobody who could theoretically help this boy.


[21-Oct-18 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There were people who could, but none of them showed up


[21-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
So you go to them, seek them out.


[21-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well unless the kid was taken to a doctor office or something it would be impossible to tell he's depressed


[21-Oct-18 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not true


[21-Oct-18 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
you can by and large tell who is depressed just by the way they interact


[21-Oct-18 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont remember a lot of the comic and i cant look it up becuase i forgot what it was called


[21-Oct-18 08:54 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well there are signs but unless you have an idea what to look for often those signs get overlooked


[21-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
Go see a counselor, or a priest, or a family figure


[21-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
Talk with them


[21-Oct-18 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
helping others who are not close is not in evolutionary self-interest


[21-Oct-18 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Priests do nothing but tell you to repent and keep repeating holy phrases


[21-Oct-18 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except for a minority, which are helpful in spite of the system they work with


[21-Oct-18 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying don't help people who aren't close to you


[21-Oct-18 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm saying humans are not wired for anything other than to stare and ogle in that situation


[21-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Most people are focused on themselves first


[21-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nile#1441
Which is sad


[21-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well part of it is biology and just wanting to protect our own asses


[21-Oct-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[21-Oct-18 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biology is weird


[21-Oct-18 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fascinatign but weird


[21-Oct-18 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also stupidly difficult


[21-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Which yeah in today it's not quite as necessary as it was 2000 years ago but change like that is slow


[21-Oct-18 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"hey you have no friends or sex life! here, isntead of giving you social isntincts to make friends, have some depression isntead"


[21-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I have neither, well that explains why I have depression :rdwut:


[21-Oct-18 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[21-Oct-18 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im a 27 year old virgin


[21-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Rip


[21-Oct-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s my own damned fault i guess


[21-Oct-18 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
college also has less social interactiont hna i thought it woudl have


[21-Oct-18 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
try harder


[21-Oct-18 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point


[21-Oct-18 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking of luring people in with board game sbut those cost money i don;lt have


[21-Oct-18 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t really care about the sex life thing but i shoudl try harder to amke friends


[21-Oct-18 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
college is a great opportunity to get laid


[21-Oct-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m in a relationship so that would be cheating


[21-Oct-18 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get laid in your relationship?


[21-Oct-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s long distance


[21-Oct-18 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bit hard to have sex when you're 2 states away from eahcother


[21-Oct-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would recommend changing the format of the relationship to at least allow outside sex.


[21-Oct-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-hex-catland-books-brooklyn-tonight-2018-10-20/

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"Hex" put on Kavanaugh at Brooklyn bookstore, event met with count...
Dakota Bracciale, co-owner of Catland Books, said the ceremony was more than just witchcraft, it was a protest
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[21-Oct-18 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Do I smell scientism in this chat?


[21-Oct-18 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes?


[21-Oct-18 09:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Simply put humans aren't natural ass holes, otherwise if we were we would still be stuck clapping rocks together in caves. Human civilization of any stripe is procluded by an excess of absolute individualism, where it's the you against the other, where the other is literally everyone else. The very fact civilization exists is because of the broad cooperative nature of mankind to improve upon our own conditions and work towards something better, whether it be advanced markets, mutual protection, scientific discovery, or even the creation of complex politics as a means of managing very large social network (of the sort beyond a few hundred to thousand individuals; you can have relationships with up to a a hundred-forty to two-hundred people, and I've heard it said recognize a few thousand faces).


[21-Oct-18 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
The problem that arises isn't humans are natural ass holes that reject everyone, but the hyper-atomized world of America or the American middle class and higher. We've long abandoned the old notion of friendship as existed in Europe, where one might never leave the place they were born in, or even completely abandon their friends to pursue some self-interested pursuit.


[21-Oct-18 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
But here in America we all go off to the college we want, and not the best college that'll take you and your five closest friends from childhood.


[21-Oct-18 09:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
We'll move off to the city for our career, but won't take those same ten friends from childhood with you so you might all pursue a career there together, because that might be the best opportunity for all of you.


[21-Oct-18 09:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
No one here certainly takes a family along, and the fact family reunions exist as a concept is proof of the alienation of family itself from being the humans you live with daily to being the humans you talk to maybe once a year and you pretend you like them or you even remember their names.


[21-Oct-18 09:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
It the stability of day-to-day, at least in America, atomized individualism rules out. And if  that were the natural state of man then it would be expected that when disaster strikes anywhere nothing changes. But like everywhere else when disaster strikes people drop the individualism and group together to lend support for one another. It's said in Sebastian Junger's book Tribe that the people happiest are the poor, and those suffering through war and natural disaster and looking back it, because they have the sense of community they wouldn't have at any other time, or in any other social strata despite the relative and wide difference between quality of life.


[21-Oct-18 09:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Likewise as it comes to depression, the western sciences treatement of it as being an individualized abnormality fixable with pills because it's a chemical imbalance is in itself an unhealthy way of going about the issue. It's treating the symptoms and not the cause. And according to a recent lecture by Wes Cecil (because I don't have the time to find the source for a Discord chat, so here's the lecture: https://youtu.be/ZJuOF2MFsJo) social isolation can have the same negative impact on someone's health, and speed their way to an earlier death than smoking and alcohol abuse combined.


[21-Oct-18 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
the pills are crap


[21-Oct-18 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
With what I said earlier in mind, the conclusion per mental health is reached in: we're unhappy and depressed not because we have a chemical imbalance in the brain so we masturbate lonely in the corner while drinking whiskey and doing ten lines of coke to fix it, but because there's no sense of community or that group you can return to.


[21-Oct-18 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
`in general, one needs a consistent sleep pattern, a strong social life, and a healthy sex life to stave it off`


[21-Oct-18 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
I heard it in a TEDtalk - another adventure worth an hour of my time to hunt down - that patients coming from strong communal structures suffering from depression going into the atomized world of western mental health often come out complaining about how it only made things worse. As it is in those places - African communities - depression is tackled as a much more broader and communal experience and anyone suffering receives the full and total support of everyone in it in a full-village or full neighborhood ritual. One done outside in the sunlight, everyone there showing support and singing and dancing, and where the depression is turning into an Other and essentially cast out.


[21-Oct-18 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you're depressed and sad in America, it's understood, because we're all raised in an environment that doesn't give a shit.


[21-Oct-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also why  schisophrenia is different for people dpeending on where thye grew up


[21-Oct-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american;s tend to be harsher and mroe hostile, asian and african schizophrenia tends to be mroe playful and spooky. and im unsure of other coutnries


[21-Oct-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i may be thinking of a different disorder than schizophrenia


[21-Oct-18 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.stanford.edu/2014/07/16/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614/

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Stanford researcher: Hallucinatory 'voices' shaped by local culture
Anthropologist Tanya Luhrmann found that voice-hearing experiences of people with serious psychotic disorders are shaped by local culture – in the U.S., the voices are harsh and threatening; in Africa and India, they are more benign and playful.
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[21-Oct-18 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/10/18/swastikas-gift-wrap-today-show-accused-helping-white-nationalist-group-sanitize-its-racism/?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.20ea8f644cc4

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Analysis | ‘Swastikas in gift wrap’: NBC accused of helping wh...
White nationalists are celebrating a "Today" show segment on Identity Evropa. Here’s how NBC missed the mark.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/0JD2EDNCgsMbHXLP9qYVBub__v8=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/AEKIF7WVG4I6PNRN3E2FZ3MJNU.jpg


[21-Oct-18 10:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember, fascism can be the application of aesthetics into politics. It's not uncommon for the KKK to wear polo shirts.


[21-Oct-18 10:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
[AShoutingTabbyWithBaseballBatWithGlowingEyes.jpeg]


[21-Oct-18 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat?


[21-Oct-18 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/z1afqR5QkDM

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The Aesthetic | ContraPoints
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z1afqR5QkDM/hqdefault.jpg


[21-Oct-18 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
T A B B Y   G A N G   R I S E   U P


[21-Oct-18 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/865055182652100608

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https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/865055182652100608
Speaking of the Daily Show and transphobia this from 2003 seems relevant. Also props to @Dennis_Kucinich https://t.co/Z8CKnGTdUZ
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[21-Oct-18 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
"""Liberals"""


[21-Oct-18 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie


[21-Oct-18 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[]


[21-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
We gonna be offended by 15 year old jokes? Oh boy


[21-Oct-18 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, we're going to get pissy about the opportunism of liberals moving in on something now that it makes money.


[21-Oct-18 10:41 PM] ononim#8141
You're very fast to jump to conclusion of my reaction, my aristophilic friend


[21-Oct-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
in that is kind of an implicit assumption that people don't change over time


[21-Oct-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
jon stewart has made many a faux pas; it doesn't mean he's illiberal


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
and while he made a joke somewhat at the expense of transgender individuals, he did it in a tone intended to mock the governor


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
I don't imply that he's not a liberal


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
rather


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
I am deanouncing capital L liberalism a a position itself


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
And  this


[21-Oct-18 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
Is indeed the very essense of it


[21-Oct-18 10:44 PM] ononim#8141
Something is not "crazy" or "idealistic" only as far it's safe to endorse and is popular


[21-Oct-18 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
what is your point


[21-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nile#1441
Like, this is just a joke.


[21-Oct-18 10:45 PM] ononim#8141
It's a mistake to think that liberals are the natural ally of downtrodden


[21-Oct-18 10:45 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] mock the governor for what exactly?


[21-Oct-18 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
so you're saying that because a TV talk show host made a joke it means that no liberals support transgender people


[21-Oct-18 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
got it


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
Saying that he would nominate anyone regardless of their oritentation and whenever they are cis or trans?


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The governor at the time was considered radical


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing is


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
to be a politician


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
and to win


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
At the time? Not really


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
you must hold bakk


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
In 2003, that WAS a very radical position.


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, the DOMA was a thing


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
DADT was policy


[21-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was 2 years after 9/11


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nile#1441
I think it's radical to this day


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] ononim#8141
I don't see how 2 years after 9/11 and the fact that it was radical position excuses it


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that sort of thing could get you lambasted on national TV


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ononim


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jingoism


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
9/11 made everyone rally behind Bush and the conservative establishment in general.


[21-Oct-18 10:47 PM] ononim#8141
@Nile you think that notion that people who didn't come out of inbreed artistocarit vagina should held power is "radical" so


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying the Iraq War was a disaster could get you tossed out of politics


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie ans that's exuses it because?


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
AND THAT IS WHAT KUCINICH DID


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nile#1441
Is this the only argument you ever have to "shut me down"


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nile#1441
Please


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
US reaction to 9/11 was jingoistic and all in all Bad even at the time


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It excuses it because Kucinich literally is what you're asking for as far as someone with a spine


[21-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are slandering liberals because a non-liberal made a joke at the expense of an actual courageous liberal


[21-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're trying to hav it both ways.


[21-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jon Stewart likely does not care about transgenderism to any real extent


[21-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is presented as liberal because he challenges when people go to extremes or spew bullshit


[21-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And lately that is mostly coming from the Conservatives.


[21-Oct-18 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
>or spew bullshit


[21-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
These days, anyone who's a bit centrist gets called liberal to try to demean them for not joining the radical right.


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the Newt Gingrich strategy.


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
"I thinke people should be nominated even if their're not straight and cis"


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nile#1441
I often hear the opposite


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
"lmao llok at this bs"


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wasn't spewing bullshit


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
he was going to extremes


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nile#1441
Centrists being called right-wingers for not hopping on the leftist bandwagon


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the time, that was extreme.


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Stewart called him out for being deliberately extreme.


[21-Oct-18 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
When it clearlly shows that harking at policies just because they are "extrme" is bullshit


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] ononim#8141
>deliberately


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but that's how America is


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get laffed at for not being centrist


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] ononim#8141
America is and was many things


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if centrism is retarded on that issue


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] ononim#8141
Like how you're not a person if you'r colour is a bit darker or if you're part of the people who lived in this land for centuries before europeans


[21-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, you put Le Average Man and Hitler in a debate


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end, the audience says we should gas half the jews


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's how American politics *actually* work most of the time


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] ononim#8141
OR how it was normal to gun down workers if they dared to aks to not work in deadly conditions


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
We even used to hav an equal time rule


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
where on TV you had to present both sides of any controversy equally


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nile#1441
Now who's jumping to extremes


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
so if it was between people who thought vaccines cause autism and scientists


[21-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
you had to giv them equal time


[21-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is massive BS


[21-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that's how America works.


[21-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone on either end of a debate is seen as being inherently wrong.


[21-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's a bad strategy to put yourself on either end as a result.


[21-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That makes good comedy fodder.


[21-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jon Stewart, by virtue of being centrist as things became more polarized


[21-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately ended up looking super left


[21-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you must realize that in 2003, an extreme conservative would say gay people should be *killed*


[21-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
not just that they can't be on the court


[21-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And over time, the conservatives hav retained that line of thinking, with a bit of blunting.


[21-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So when suddenly Jon is saying that maybe it's okay if we don't look into personal sexual history


[21-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
he looks left


[21-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The actual liberals now will deride the "chick with dick" remark for sure, but ultimately their position is sane.


[21-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so centrists tend to just be not all that different on it.


[21-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot has changed in 15 years.


[21-Oct-18 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
>He makes the is distinction but not the ought


[21-Oct-18 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Step it up


[21-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nile#1441
Ultimately it's a joke, I hope people don't make this a thing.


[21-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a sidenote, PC culture is essentially coming from the elites of Silicon Valley


[21-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most poorer liberals don't support that shit, nor do minorities etc.


[21-Oct-18 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
middle-class to upper-class liberals


[21-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jon Stewart is very unlikely to go full PC


[21-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Nile#1441
Upper-class elites tend to care abotu stuff that doesn't matter.


[21-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about suppressing lower classes with taboos


[21-Oct-18 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Be up high enough and you can be a degenerate all you want


[21-Oct-18 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you're Rohm I guess


[21-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many decades will we be forced to deal with conservatives ANGERY AT LATE NIGHT TV™


[21-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many times do you have to point out they have radio sewn up


[21-Oct-18 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Radio is a joke lol


[22-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Nile#1441
Conservatives should care more about internet presence instead of late-night


[22-Oct-18 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I prefer music radio


[22-Oct-18 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
political radio is dumb


[22-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Nile#1441
I think it's fine depending if the host is good


[22-Oct-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again the only time i lsiten to radio is int he car and i dont really want politics killing my car ride mood


[22-Oct-18 12:37 AM] Nile#1441
Personally it beats listening to Ed Sheeran songs on the radio for the 500th time


[22-Oct-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i listen to classic rock stations


[22-Oct-18 12:39 AM] Tazzee#0001
My discord hasn't scrolled but no normal Person supports PC culture. Outside of the brainwash college students and Racists (This is purely my own opinion)


[22-Oct-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The students aren't brainwashed by colleges, is the interesting thing


[22-Oct-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
they come into colleges and start demanding the college be more PC


[22-Oct-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They bring it in from their upbringing as liberal elites.


[22-Oct-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is entirely a strategy to deflect from the actual causes of inequality by making token efforts towards diversity in a way that allows them to paint swaths of the lower classes as responsible for inequality and bad.


[22-Oct-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, conservative elites can then point to it and say that admitting problems = PC culture, therefore no problems can be admitted, thereby deflecting from themselves.


[22-Oct-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole setup benefits whoever already has money, especially if they're white etc.


[22-Oct-18 12:47 AM] Nile#1441
its that darn white privilege 😏


[22-Oct-18 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I would not be in the position I am in today were I not white


[22-Oct-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no question about it


[22-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Nile#1441
Sure


[22-Oct-18 12:52 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cKolXwp7IQ

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[22-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Had to drive 10 minutes out of my way and sign shit just to be able to get Sudafed for my cold


[22-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Tazzee#0001
@Princess Luna - Nebbie - I don't want to disagree, But I have seen relatively normal people go into College and become brainwashed PC twats,


[22-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because apparently cities around me completely banned its sale and only allow the placebos


[22-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess the assumption is someone who wants to make meth won't go ten minutes over to the next city


[22-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Tazzee#0001
Meth is hilarious


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politics spreads among peer groups


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They become brainwashed by their peers


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Tazzee#0001
Ex meth addicts that are now sober is absolutely hilarious


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
college students in general are young people with money


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The one county in Missouri that will decide our Senate race


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will often support token efforts to resist whatever is the current evil.


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of any meaningful change.


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has more meth in it than like five states combined


[22-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Including all of CA


[22-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Tazzee#0001
I had a  "acquiantance" that was a meth/crack addict at a faciulity they had no freaking teeth and every time they spoke it was the funniest thing on the planet


[22-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
meth + not brushing + dentistry in the US is like regular healthcare but somehow even more horrible


[22-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's gonna be a loooot of people by 2040 with no teeth.


[22-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pepsi is basically responsible for Appalachia being shit almost single handedly


[22-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Tazzee#0001
Anyone who drinks pepsi should be executed


[22-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Mountain Dew


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Tazzee#0001
Mountain Dew I am okay with


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a mini doc on this a few years back


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soda tax pls


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Tazzee#0001
but pepsi, No questions asksed


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Tazzee#0001
execution


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i drink pepsi


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bepis xD


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Tazzee#0001
I have a soda tax it is complete effing bullshit


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
20% soda tax, and when refills are available, on the maximum cup size for all the cup sizes


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Not sure how pepsi is politics


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
taxes are pretty much the only way you can get consumers to stop buying something


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Tazzee#0001
You don't want a "sugar tax"


[22-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No soda tax but no big cups


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soda tax


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make the fatties get refills and realize they're fat


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Tazzee#0001
Tax idiots who still think an iPhone is good


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh apple in general is a scam


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh an iPhone tax would be pretty nice


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Tazzee#0001
I am fat and I know I am fat, so i shouldn't be taxxed for refillls?


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indirect way of taxing on income


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
that's not really solving real political issues tho


[22-Oct-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their mouses dont work for shit, and now their devices brick themselves if you try to get thme repaired


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, 5% tax on phones over $500


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is to get people to stop drinking soda through shame


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shame never works


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Tazzee#0001
400% tax on iphones is a minimum


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to go after their wallet.


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really doesnt


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico's soda tax is actually working btw


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People will spend whatever they have for sugar water


[22-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't care


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The do care


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
400% would be shitty regardless the type of device


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
price is a big deal


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Tazzee#0001
if the non sugar water tasted better I would buy that


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i care


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could make soda $20 a bottle and people would buy it


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
for any product, consumers are sensitive to price at a certain point


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And enough would


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Tazzee#0001
nah I would not pay $20 for soda


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just hav to find that point


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and believe it or not


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would be mad because fuck those assholes


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Tazzee#0001
^


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
that point isn't that far for soda


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
people mainly get addicted to soda in the first place because it's cheaper than milk, juice, etc.


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Taxing soda seems stupid


[22-Oct-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i rarely drink soda as is but sometimes i just want some


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it seem stupid?


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We tax cigarettes.


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] ononim#8141
Public cafeterias when


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Juice is almost as bad as soda


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kids should not drink it


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Juice is, however, *not* as bad as soda


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] ononim#8141
Kompot master race


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soda has basically no redeeming nutritional value


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is better overall to just eat fruit


[22-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
far worse, soda is cheap


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
If the point is to make people drink healthier things then lower the price of bottled water


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
juice isn't a problem because it's about as expensive as milk in the most basic form


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fruit plus 30g of processed sugar isn't worth it


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
bottled water is fucking expensive


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] ononim#8141
I am so glad there's now a trend in some fast food joints to give kompot or mors instead of soda


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is kompoit or mors


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reducing prices is much harder than raising them


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] ononim#8141
Sadly no big three (kfc, bk, mc)


[22-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Like it's cheaper to buy soda then WATER


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, replacing our water infrastructure would be very good


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
right now, a lot of places still use chlorine to disinfect the water


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
makes it taste funny


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it goes thru old pipes that add all sorts of crap to it because they're a little bit damaged


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
Is FLint still poisoned


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
I haven't heard news from it a long time


[22-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they just recently got most of their infrastructure online


[22-Oct-18 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
Hell world


[22-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
many places in the US are in a similar spot tho, with less lead, but with like, actual mud coming out of the faucet sometimes.


[22-Oct-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[22-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Related https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/649850498/you-just-don-t-touch-that-tap-water-unless-absolutely-necessary

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'You Just Don't Touch That Tap Water Unless Absolutely Necessary'
America's water infrastructure is in need of a major upgrade. Leaks in the ailing system mean that across the U.S., places like Kentucky's Martin County lack clean drinking water, with no easy fixes.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/09/20/2018-08-30-martin-county-water--rfacun-_022_wide-4b878da78fdc02e84ab4ccd428c05267d807336a.jpg?s=1400


[22-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So bad management screwed them over


[22-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the state investigated, realized it couldn't do anything


[22-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so then money was put in


[22-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and bad management ate it up


[22-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now the residents who basically get no water will be taxed more to pay for what they should already hav gotten


[22-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much at that point, the remaining option is "seize the company with eminent domain"


[22-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then you need to pay "fair market value"


[22-Oct-18 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
which will certainly be "asswads of cash made up by the people who intentionally ran it badly"


[22-Oct-18 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
~~>paying while seizing companies~~


[22-Oct-18 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
anyway


[22-Oct-18 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
reposting the vid


[22-Oct-18 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cKolXwp7IQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cKolXwp7IQ
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[22-Oct-18 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
Since it got burried in soda


[22-Oct-18 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
(it about all that "Soros is a cultural Marxists who's hell bent on destroying the West!" tlaking points)


[22-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCURRY GLOBALISTS ARE JUST COMMUNISTS OUT TO...CAPITALIZE YOU?


[22-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge mess of talking points


[22-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, Koch and Soros both benefit from the hysteria because it motivates their respective bases


[22-Oct-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Globalism is especially scary because it threatens particular monetary interests


[22-Oct-18 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
to make matters worse


[22-Oct-18 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
many cities contain pipes run with lead


[22-Oct-18 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
not just flint


[22-Oct-18 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
and water utilities in these cities have to put chemicals in the pipes to salt out the lead


[22-Oct-18 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
those chemicals are expensive


[22-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Tazzee#0001
I don't drink tapwater befcause it is laced with scary sounding crap, and it makes me extremely sick


[22-Oct-18 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
and increasingly the burden of supplying water is being sold on contract to private conglomerate utilities


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
buy a water filter or something


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
who just ... don't put the chemicals in


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Tazzee#0001
Water filters don't filter Flouride


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
meaning the Pb2+ leaches into the water


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[22-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
right


[22-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Tazzee#0001
I buy bottled water, that has no flouride and then boil it


[22-Oct-18 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
carbonic acid can neutralize free fluoride


[22-Oct-18 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
if you install a carbonator tap on your sink you should be able to drink that


[22-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Tazzee#0001
I live in rented accomodation and can't do jack without them freaking out


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just drink the fluoride and get good teeth. It doesn't do anything else.


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
er, sorry, H2CO3 can't do that


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Tazzee#0001
Its incredibly toxic


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
but various bicarbonates and hydroxides can


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
F- is not particularly toxic


[22-Oct-18 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what you've heard but it's not


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
F2 will kill you quickly but F- will not


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Tazzee#0001
If my body is spraying out both ends from tap water I am assuming something is toxic


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to put $1000 on "it's not the fluoride doing that"


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a variety of parasitic organisms that use the anal oral route.


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your water may be contaminated with groundwater


[22-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the pipes hav leaks


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Tazzee#0001
Nah my water is pretty solid,


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Tazzee#0001
Might not be the flouride


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Tazzee#0001
but it is definitely something in the water


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean by solid?


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Tazzee#0001
I am in a city and the water quality is pretty consistent


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would not hav any idea of a minor leak in the pipe system other than by finding contaminants.


[22-Oct-18 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
send a sample off for elemental analysis


[22-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being in a city does not mean the water is good.


[22-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Tazzee#0001
I never said it was good


[22-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is quite probable there is a source of contamination somewhere immediately after the treatment plant.


[22-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Tazzee#0001
I live in a hard water area


[22-Oct-18 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
alternatively, you can try to titrate it yourself if you can get your hands on some KMnO4


[22-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Tazzee#0001
I just get fizzy water from supermarket, It costs me a few quid a month


[22-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/21/659327955/migrant-caravan-grows-to-5-000

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Migrant Caravan Grows to 5,000
A growing crowd of Central American migrants in southern Mexico is resuming its advance toward the U.S. border on Sunday.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/10/21/ap_18294543379396_wide-295abc48788548d7c93815601a20ad8f1bdaf99c.jpg?s=1400


[22-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
'"I believe Trump's heart may still be tender and one day he will feel peace and happiness and do good for us. He won't regret it," Samuel said.'


[22-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Tazzee#0001
Crikey thats at 5k?


[22-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
inb4 Samuel shot dead by national guard on the eve of the election.


[22-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras is like Mexico right now, but worse


[22-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
gangs everywhere


[22-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
economic problems from the incontinuity of gov't services


[22-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what the war on drugs has created.


[22-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Tazzee#0001
I agree with the war on drugs, just it should also include alcohol and nicotine (coming from someone who likes to drink)


[22-Oct-18 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
WE BRINGING BACK THE MOB?


[22-Oct-18 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU BRING THE MOB BACK


[22-Oct-18 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't


[22-Oct-18 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
legalize all drugs


[22-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Tazzee#0001
No not all drugs


[22-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We brought bakk the mob, but in other countries, basically.


[22-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now those countries hav political strife and people who want to migrate out of the places where they could easily be killed


[22-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
relatedly


[22-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
our current immigration policies are incredibly strict


[22-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We actually require hard evidence of a specific threat of violence as far as asylum-seeking for it


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Tazzee#0001
Immigration should be pretty strict


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of generalized belief that they'd be shot on returning


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as a result


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
we send bakk people to Honduras etc.


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they are shot and killed.


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Routinely.


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Tazzee#0001
I live in the EU, where immigration is mandatory for trade


[22-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Tazzee#0001
Which is complete BS


[22-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/15/when-deportation-is-a-death-sentence

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When Deportation Is a Death Sentence
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants in the U.S. may face violence and murder in their home countries. What happens when they are forced to return?
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5a4fec553f368d57da384d79/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/180115_r31298.jpg


[22-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nile#1441
More homeless people


[22-Oct-18 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I disagree with the entire concept of restricted borders


[22-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Tazzee#0001
Immigration is a privilege not a right


[22-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Tazzee#0001
Un restricted borders is crazy


[22-Oct-18 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
disagree strongly


[22-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Nile#1441
Of course you do


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Restrictions or not


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
protections for those fleeing violence are *important*


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Tazzee#0001
If you are under provable threat in your native land then sure safe haven should be provided.


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
killing people by sending them bakk to where they will be killed is not okay.


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
tbh up until like 300 years ago people didn't really have to worry about the bullshit paperwork and stuff with immigration


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Tazzee#0001
BUT that safe haven should be provided in the nearest possible country not 7 countries over


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico will not accept many Hondurans


[22-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada won't either


[22-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nile#1441
Yeah we don’t want them


[22-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole asylum system is based on the idea that YOU hav responsibility


[22-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't get to just shrug it the fukk off when someone's life is in danger.


[22-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Tazzee#0001
I was applying that to Refugees also


[22-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Tazzee#0001
sorry I should have been clearer


[22-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally


[22-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
were Mexico to take in tons of Hondurans fleeing violence


[22-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nile#1441
If we believe everyone claiming asylum yikes


[22-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can almost guarantee you the ones committing that violence would hav little trouble getting those in Mexico to carry it out


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras is only two countries over, Mexico would be the nearest for these purposes.


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Tazzee#0001
I support background checks into everyone applying for asylum/immigration etc


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we don't blindly believe everyone, but previously it was a low bar of proof


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
in most large cases we can tell who's probably at risk just by reading the news


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the current high bar of proof is killing people without doing any good


[22-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Accepting in asylum-seekers is a net gain to our economy


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
immigrants hav a lower rate of committing crimes than the native-born population.


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Nile#1441
muh economy


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
economy is very important


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no good reason to be rejecting people by setting a high bar.


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't benefit us.


[22-Oct-18 01:55 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
without a stable economy everything else falls apart


[22-Oct-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/637269721/judge-orders-return-of-deported-asylum-seekers

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https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/637269721/judge-orders-return-of-deported-asylum-seekers
Deported Asylum-Seekers Brought Back On Angry Judge's Orders
The federal judge issued the order after learning a mother and daughter involved in a lawsuit challenging new asylum rules had been deported despite assurances to the court they would not be removed.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/08/09/ap_080501054698_wide-4c93927673f16f95fabefff4962f1c0d5ef6a284.jpg?s=1400


[22-Oct-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do *not* fukk with judges.


[22-Oct-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump Administration literally tried to deport the plaintiffs *while* telling the judge the opposite in a case centering on the administration deporting like mad in the face of evidence of violence if immigrants returned.


[22-Oct-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(under the excuse that gang violence and domestic violence aren't violence)


[22-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, some Cronkite relating to the whole War on Drugs thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZgzTpZFac

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Drug Policy Alliance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZgzTpZFac
Walter Cronkite & America's Disastrous Drug War Pt 1 of 6
Walter Cronkite & America's Disastrous Drug War Pt 1 of 6
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfZgzTpZFac/hqdefault.jpg


[22-Oct-18 02:09 AM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/e92a899a7eb7ef1f2824265dc9028f49/tumblr_pgwc7pIZNJ1sw9neuo1_1280.jpg

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https://69.media.tumblr.com/e92a899a7eb7ef1f2824265dc9028f49/tumblr_pgwc7pIZNJ1sw9neuo1_1280.jpg
https://69.media.tumblr.com/e92a899a7eb7ef1f2824265dc9028f49/tumblr_pgwc7pIZNJ1sw9neuo1_1280.jpg


[22-Oct-18 02:09 AM] ononim#8141
relevant


[22-Oct-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
How?


[22-Oct-18 02:11 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/29/a-ship-full-of-refugees-fleeing-the-nazis-once-begged-the-u-s-for-entry-they-were-turned-back/?noredirect=on

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/29/a-ship-full-of-refugees-fleeing-the-nazis-once-begged-the-u-s-for-entry-they-were-turned-back?noredirect=on
A ship full of refugees fleeing the Nazis once begged the U.S. for...
A strict immigration quota and “antisemitism, xenophobia, nativism and isolationism” doomed many of the passengers aboard the St. Louis in 1939, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.


[22-Oct-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, yeah, that


[22-Oct-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that was before these agreements on asylum-seeking came to be


[22-Oct-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were pretty much created because WWII created all this refugee insanity


[22-Oct-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and many nations just said "not our problem"


[22-Oct-18 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/10/climate-change-doubters-are-finalists-environmental-protection-agency-science-advisory

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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/10/climate-change-doubters-are-finalists-environmental-protection-agency-science-advisory
Climate change doubters are finalists for Environmental Protection...
Candidates include energy company scientists and researchers who questioned air pollution regulations
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/E%26E_16x9.jpg?itok=DhHyYssc


[22-Oct-18 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
big oof


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] Mikey#7286
fucking


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acT_PSAZ7BQ

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ANTI- Records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acT_PSAZ7BQ
The Coup - "The Guillotine"
"The Guillotine" by The Coup from the new album 'Sorry To Bother You,' out 10/30! Produced and Directed by Beau Patrick Coulon DP & Edit - Shawn Butcher AC -...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/acT_PSAZ7BQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
LET'S


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
FUCKING


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
DO


[22-Oct-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
IT


[22-Oct-18 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know one of the depressing things about Cronkite's 6-part thing?


[22-Oct-18 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the statistics he mentions, that of the incarceration rate, is outdated


[22-Oct-18 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
we now are #1, surpassing Russia.


[22-Oct-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Hey Reagan, let's facilitate the sale of cocaine into the United States. Our Honudran buddies need help." -Oliver North


[22-Oct-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
"OK, I'll get Alzheimer's and not remember."


[22-Oct-18 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
lel


[22-Oct-18 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then the Iran-Contra affair also spawned the crack boom but no one cared to do anything about it.


[22-Oct-18 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because national security.


[22-Oct-18 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Iran-Contra Affair might have helped Iran in almost defeating Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980's, last i remember


[22-Oct-18 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless i'm mistaken


[22-Oct-18 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[22-Oct-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That video series is insane for the fact it was made in the mid-90s and that the problems it points out are still unsolved.


[22-Oct-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/9isxdnu

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https://imgur.com/gallery/9isxdnu
America you have a serious problem
https://i.imgur.com/0yK9zyih.jpg


[22-Oct-18 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ouch


[22-Oct-18 03:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shule_Kingdom

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shule_Kingdom
Shule Kingdom
The Shule Kingdom (Chinese: 疏勒) was an Indo-European oasis kingdom of the Taklamakan Desert that was on the Northern Silk Road, in the historical Western Regions of what is now Xinjiang in Northwest China. Its capital was Kashgar, the source of Kashgar's water being a riv...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Tarimbecken_3._Jahrhundert.png/1200px-Tarimbecken_3._Jahrhundert.png


[22-Oct-18 04:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Poor kid


[22-Oct-18 01:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bLq4466LM

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Sarah Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bLq4466LM
The Late Capitalism of Fast Food Twitter
An examination of roasts, zingers, clapbacks, and slave labour on Mexican tomato farms. https://www.patreon.com/SarahZ (Thumbnail art credit to bunberryart a...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6bLq4466LM/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Oct-18 06:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
When even CNN is blasting Elizabeth Warren's claim to Native American ancestry in light of her Trainwreck DNA test


[22-Oct-18 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm more native american than warren


[22-Oct-18 07:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'm way way more native american then her, (I think I'm about 1/16 or 1/32 I don't remember exactly)


[22-Oct-18 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is a native american?


[22-Oct-18 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's a very amorphous umbrella term once you get to the meat of it


[22-Oct-18 07:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
an american before it was america


[22-Oct-18 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm also inclined to disapprove of Warren's use of a DNA test as an attempt to connect with so-called native american tribes, as she has not grown up in the midst of one of them


[22-Oct-18 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't care about how much Cherokee blood you have if you act 100% like an archetypical white person


[22-Oct-18 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That in itself, however, is still complicated, and involves a lot of factors


[22-Oct-18 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If a Cherokee has an iPhone and lives in an apartment, for example, is he no longer a Cherokee?


[22-Oct-18 07:50 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
no? your DNA doesn't change


[22-Oct-18 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One of the factors in play is how society sees the individual, i think.


[22-Oct-18 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
While personal identity is also a factor.


[22-Oct-18 07:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Starlight Glimmer <3 DNA might be a factor, but it's also affected by the cultural dilemma


[22-Oct-18 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Take the inhabitants of Xinjiang province of far-western China, for example


[22-Oct-18 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They have mostly European-related DNA


[22-Oct-18 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, we're not inclined to call them "European" because they're so far removed from that cultural reality


[22-Oct-18 07:57 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well there's a difference from someone having dna from another place but have been in a certain place so long they fit in more with the place they currently live, and well people who were displaced by other people moving in by hoards, as that wasn't a choice on their end


[22-Oct-18 07:58 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
most of the native americans who live "western" lives do it bc they didn't really get a choice


[22-Oct-18 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure I'm 1/16th native American


[22-Oct-18 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I really don't know much more than that about my ancestry


[22-Oct-18 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Supposedly Cherokee and Sioux with a ton of probably English on my dad's side, Irish or something on my mom's side.


[22-Oct-18 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
I am basically albino.


[22-Oct-18 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the native american genes are doing anything, they're ruining my ability to grow a thikk mustache.


[22-Oct-18 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not pencil-thin, but it's pretty tame for *never having shaved it*


[22-Oct-18 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would seriously look out of place as being too white in Ireland


[22-Oct-18 08:08 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
me and my sister are pretty tan, in fact people have mistaken my sister for being latina before, I don't know much about my native american culture but that's more bc it comes from my mom's side and my mom grew up in foster homes


[22-Oct-18 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I know quite about the culture because my grandma's third husband was native american


[22-Oct-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
so I hav an aunt (half-aunt etc.? family terminology is complex) and two cousins who are native american


[22-Oct-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
and my grandma livs with the aunt on the reservation


[22-Oct-18 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
native south americans are native americans


[22-Oct-18 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
my grandmother is ecuadorian


[22-Oct-18 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
"Science flies rockets to the moon, religion flies planes into skyscrapers."


[22-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[22-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Sad but true


[22-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.thisisinsider.com/saudi-prince-salman-reportedly-confused-khashoggi-outrage-report-2018-10


[22-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much "Huh, killing people is wrong? Since when?"


[22-Oct-18 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"what? people didnt like that i killed a beloved journalist? I thought it woudl make  people love and worship me"


[23-Oct-18 12:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I wonder if Native Americans are actually Asians...


[23-Oct-18 12:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Perhaps they could have been our long lost cousins who wandered off into the new continent?


[23-Oct-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is quite significant evidence of that migration.


[23-Oct-18 12:43 AM] Deleted User#0000
wait, people are up in arms over shit that happened 100 years ago?


[23-Oct-18 12:50 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Some Japanese feudal clans in the past have claimed to have descended from Qin Dynasty emperor Qin Shi Huangdi. There's also a legend that the development of Japanese civilization was hastened when a Chinese fleet led by Qin's court sorcerer land on the Japanese Archipilago  on a futile search for the immortality elixir under the order of the emperor.


[23-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
back in early 2000's nobody cared what Columbus did or didn't do


[23-Oct-18 12:51 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Japan was still in the Stone age when China was in the midst of the Bronze/Iron Age


[23-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
that or it wasn't this sperged about till now


[23-Oct-18 12:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Political correctness has cultivated this psychotic insanity


[23-Oct-18 12:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It has to be eradicated. ASAP


[23-Oct-18 12:52 AM] Deleted User#0000
well that's obvious


[23-Oct-18 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie they're whining about it again, just do your thing


[23-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Deleted User#0000
kinda funny that they did that same BS tactic to James Gunn, whom just made unfunny edgy jokes


[23-Oct-18 12:53 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
What isn't considered offensive and have been considered neutral and even innocent are becoming "offensive" these days


[23-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Deleted User#0000
bingo


[23-Oct-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine, i'll do it myself.
It's funny how the people who most complain about "PC" are oftenly the first ones to whine about girls who have short hair or don't shave their armpits.


[23-Oct-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just saying.


[23-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nile#1441
How is it funny


[23-Oct-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because it's hipocrisy?


[23-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nile#1441
In what regard


[23-Oct-18 12:57 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I keep telling my liberal aquintence who was in favour of censoring Alex Jones that he's putting himself on a slippery slope by supporting such move. I asked him, what would he do if he was accused of "hate speech"? He replied boldly saying that he "doesn't do hate speech". I should've replied that what he said that aren't considered offensive right now, might be considered "offensive" in the future. He was speechless


[23-Oct-18 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They argue for freedom of speech and ideas, but they're poised to morally supress, or try to morally supress, women who deviate from the social norm


[23-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's rich people


[23-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
trying to keep poor people from *actually* climbing the social ladder


[23-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
by making up BS excuses to hurt those people


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Despite the fact that a woman using short hair and unshaved armpits is pretty much a political comment by other means


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while deflecting with token efforts from their own wealth and power and consequent inequality


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get to say they're fans of equality, but not actually cause equality.


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nile#1441
I hardly see it as "suppression", it's more or less mockery.


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav your cake and eat it too.


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mokkery is the main way the rich justify being the top of the social ladder.


[23-Oct-18 12:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@SeraphimDawn give me your friend's tag, i wanna indoctrinate him in GLORIOUS ANARCHIST ZIZEKISM


[23-Oct-18 12:59 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Nevelar!!!!


[23-Oct-18 12:59 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Wtf is it?


[23-Oct-18 12:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I was just gonna tell him to take a leftist political theory course to get started


[23-Oct-18 12:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too bad you're not telling me his name :c


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nile#1441
I'll turn Zizek's death day into a celebration


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I don't think I can make him further left than he already is


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>liberal


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, sure


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Liberolo


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Liberian


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Librarian


[23-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's fine to be liberal, but for gods sake, make sure you're not inane


[23-Oct-18 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Insane?


[23-Oct-18 01:01 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Inane


[23-Oct-18 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, silly


[23-Oct-18 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, sure, we can't be stupid


[23-Oct-18 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be attention-gathering


[23-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Deleted User#0000
but dealing with liberal quacks, you'd be rude too


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nile#1441
I know that feel


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, about Colombus


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The morality of what he did has nothing to do with PC culture


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem begins when you're rude and offensive but don't have a theorical basis


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus did such abusive things he was summoned bakk to Spain and questioned by the king about them *at the time*


[23-Oct-18 01:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
People keep mixing Columbus up with the Conquisidors


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy was cutting off people's hands if they didn't offer up gold


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure about Columbus


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
no, the Conquistadors actually did less than him


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with Hernan Cortez


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus was incredibly abusive


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would parade around mutilated, dead, or dying natives


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
for fun, naked, in the streets


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, people only care about the romanticized Columbus


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
normal people had...a few questions about WTF MAN


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as much as they didn't respect the natives


[23-Oct-18 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not the one from the 15th-16th century documents


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus also wasn't exactly terribly honest


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He was also megalomaniacal and quite delusive


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
when he was justifying his expedition to the queen of Spain


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
he used figures from an Arab mathemetician on how big the Earth's circumference is


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is fine in and of itself, the figures were correct


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they were in Arab miles


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
not European miles


[23-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arab miles are larger


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus intentionally didn't explain that to make it look like he would be sailing a much shorter distance


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I heard of that


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Even if he did all those atrocities. I think he should still be celebrated for his acvomplishments


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Deleted User#0000
yeah, but that was years ago


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, he did have to persuade the kings somehow


[23-Oct-18 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@SeraphimDawn what accomplishments?


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also, on the voyage over


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Besides travelling the atlantic?


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
consistently misrecorded actual distance traveled for what he told the crew


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which many other navigators also did?


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy found America because it was in the way of getting to Asia


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's certainly an accomplishment


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the guy was a huge asshole and pretty much the worst person to hav done something like this


[23-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think we should celebrate him as a person.


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Should we celebrate people on their technical achievements? Thus, should we celebrate Hitler for estabilishing brutal German control between France and Russia for a brief time?


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Deleted User#0000
but still if we're going to trudge up old acts of dickery, and offended over what he did; what's done is done


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every historical character is human, and every human is a flawed being.


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being offended


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the guy has a holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
He was one of the first to attempt such. Plus not much was known about the Americas back then. He intended on finding a route to India by sailing west. Not known to him was that he landed on a completely different continent, when he thought he landed on India. That might be the reason why Native Americans were called "Indians" in the first place.


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Human flaws get even more visible if the human is in a position of power.


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's the same thing about 9/11


[23-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he shouldn't.


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User boi


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**The point of history is to not repeat its mistakes**


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] Deleted User#0000
Osama planned his attack on th WTC, and now he's been executed


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's not like the Natives didn't commit genocide on each other for centuries long before the European arrivals


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] Deleted User#0000
what's done is done


[23-Oct-18 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marc Bloch tells us of this in his work


[23-Oct-18 01:10 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Whatever happened to the Nascas? Olmec? Beothuk? And many other tribes the Aztecs killed off in their conquest to expand their empire?


[23-Oct-18 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can see how we said "what's done is done" in regards to 1930's right-wing populism, and now Brazil is slipping into fascism just like Germany did


[23-Oct-18 01:10 AM] Deleted User#0000
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 my point isn't that we shouldn't repeat our mistakes, my point is that if you're going to trudge up old events just to get offended is fucking stupid; what's done is done, and time heals all wounds


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User time does not heal all wounds


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just to get offended


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nile#1441
Beothuk? Aren't those an Inuit tribe


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is some pretty stupid thinking


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should we forget moral wrongs just because they happened in the past?


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your major malfunction with not worshipping people who committed atrocities?


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Human action is almost always necessary to fix previous mistakes also caused by human action


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if we had Hitler Day, we should just not trudge up the Holocaust to get offended.


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Deleted User#0000
because who cares you autistic spastic


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nile#1441
😂


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think your line of reasoning is insane.


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Much politics


[23-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nile#1441
Got em


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We should respect their accomplishments whole being aware of their wrongs. But it depends on people whether something is right or wrong. A hero for most might be a villain for some


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Deleted User#0000
so my line of reasoning is insane for not giving an ounce of fuck about what Columbus did back in the time where moral grounds weren't set in stone


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"where moral grounds weren't set in stone"


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Deleted User#0000
get off your high horse spaz


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nile#1441
I'm an Anglo, so I can't find it in my heart to respect an Italian


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had morals bakk then


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
ones that weren't fond of what Colombus did


[23-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nile#1441
Sorry @SeraphimDawn :trixdisgust:


[23-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had different morals, but they still believed what he did to be wrong.


[23-Oct-18 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Christianity helped free the slaves
>nevermind that Christians oftentimes used the Bible to justify slavery in the exploration age


[23-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was mostly ignored later on because bringing up the moral wrongs done to natives could hurt support for anti-native policies.


[23-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Morality was no less set in stone when Colombus was around than today.


[23-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, in regards to anti-native policies


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Indian Removal Act actually had a *lot* of people opposed to it


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Deleted User#0000
and yet very little cared to what Columbus did at the time


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the gov't didn't care.


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Deleted User#0000
exactly


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User Bartolomé De Las Casas


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Spanish monarchy cared quite a bit about what Colombus was doing


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ever heard of him?


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Deleted User#0000
>implying


[23-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having someone commit atrocities after giving them control of territory just isn't what a good Christian was supposed to do.


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Answer, please.


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] Deleted User#0000
moral ambiguity


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] Deleted User#0000
sure lemme answer some off-topic question


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's on topic ffs


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It seems you haven't heard of him


[23-Oct-18 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then


[23-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Deleted User#0000
i never see people get this autistically asshurt over people pretending to be sun-gods to manipulate people


[23-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Nile#1441
:Cakelestia:


[23-Oct-18 01:16 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The concept of "white guilt" and by extension "yellow guilt" is bullshit

 @Nebbie Pagans are fair game. According to them.

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[23-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus didn't pretend to be a sungod


[23-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and stop with the namecalling or you will be banned.


[23-Oct-18 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User you still haven't answered my question as to whether you know the figure i mentioned


[23-Oct-18 01:17 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Was I calling anyone by name?


[23-Oct-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about any sort of guilt; we shouldn't be worshipping people who committed atrocities.


[23-Oct-18 01:17 AM] Deleted User#0000
neither the pagans that pretended to be sun-gods genius


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should choose who was actually a good person to praise with our holidays, statues, etc.


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's a fucking holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pagans didnt pretend to be sungods


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then is it such a big deal if we remove it?


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they worshipped a sun god, there;s a difference


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's apart of history


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What about Confederate statues?


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except columbus didnt discoverjakc shit


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should be removed, in accordance with the wishes of General Lee.


[23-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
don't mind if we remove MLK day, let alone who gives an absolute shit about that holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nile#1441
Americans have loved iconoclasm since their inception.


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he jsut landed in an already inhabited land the vikings had already visited year prior


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
MLK was a good person, and we should praise him


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
why do you think we shouldn't?


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you believe what he did was wrong?


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Would you remove George Washington if he was the one committed atrocities?


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's history, because it happened


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mlk was an actually historical signifance


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Potentially, Sela.


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being what happened doesn't mean we need to celebrate it.


[23-Oct-18 01:19 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Because that is what we seem to be doing here with our first prime.minister John Macdonald


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
You can find all the history in a museum


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
it took the death of MLK to get him a holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Nile#1441
Do you not think Columbus establishing European contact with the New World is significant? @prism stryder(intexda)


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
It doesn't all need to be codified into holidays


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Even evil people can do good things right?


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
what about the Americans, they did some heinous shit too


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
MLK would hav a holiday if he hadn't died at the time as well


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
but the people who we agreed were overal moral and upstanding individuals


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone dies in the end.


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
sometimes get holidays


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
exactly, it's history


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm sure John A's accomplishments outwiehg his atrocities


[23-Oct-18 01:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
history isn't pretty, thinking that is spaztic


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There's also different perspectives.


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Deleted User#0000
what about John Doe


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
what is your argument, exactly


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Deleted User#0000
John Doe killed and raped indians


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Nile#1441
@SeraphimDawn People were also wanting to do away with Victoria Day too, which was another one I didn't like.


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Deleted User#0000
and he's considered the apex good guy


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
you're just running in circles calling Luna names for suggesting that Columbus day ought not to be a holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
History doesn't need to be pretty


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
>respect the opinions and views of others


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we should probably only celebrate the pretty parts


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie it's not


[23-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
while explaining the not so pretty parts.


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But there is no one way to see it


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Deleted User#0000
if we be selective with our bullshit, that means it never existed


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
wrong


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
People who are heroes to some maybe villains to others


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It depends on context and perspective


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Deleted User#0000
we can't wash away the ideas that we were ok with slavery


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
not celebrating something ≠ denying the existence of it


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Nile#1441
George Washington would be a hero to Americans, while a villain to the Brits 🤔


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just because there are multiple ways to see it doesn't mean we can figure out a way to see it for ourselves.


[23-Oct-18 01:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Slavery exists to this day. In many forms


[23-Oct-18 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
by your logic it's okay to have a national slavery day because that was part of history


[23-Oct-18 01:23 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
In some ways, you wouldn't expect


[23-Oct-18 01:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
since when? blacks have more freedoms now more than ever


[23-Oct-18 01:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
aside from the made up bullshit stories that many quack liberals use to push-over people


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nile#1441
Here we go


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>blacks have more freedoms now more than ever


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic strawman


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just because the law has changed, doesn't mean the people have


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
"many quakk liberals"


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
on a tangent of a tangent.


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"push over people"


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he doesn't want to continue on about celebrating parts of history.


[23-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"made up bullshit stories"


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Which are corroborated by evidence and statistics btw)


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Deleted User#0000
you mean the stories are real?


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nile#1441
We get it, you ❤ minorities


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Deleted User#0000
since when


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes?


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since always?


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Deleted User#0000
any statistical proof?


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[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Deleted User#0000
using 4chan


[23-Oct-18 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All those innocent black boys and men who happened to trespass into white-owned property for tangent reasons and saw the cops get called on them?


[23-Oct-18 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not that uncommon


[23-Oct-18 01:26 AM] Nile#1441
#savetheblacks


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Black lives matter, indeed. So much that Africa is gradually pulling itself from the shit that Europe left it with.


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Africans are to be considered "black" here.


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Deleted User#0000
then get rid of Europe holidays


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Deleted User#0000
since it's now offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
strawman again


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Deleted User#0000
fuck it, just ban everything, everything is offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Strauman


[23-Oct-18 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
strawman


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
black neighborhoods tend to also be poorer and less occupied by businesses. though some of it is caused by  the crab bucket effect there is real economic damage there


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>tfw Lagos is one of the world's fastest-growing cities in terms of GDP, quality of life, among other factors, but no one talks about it because it's in subsaharan Africa


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nile#1441
I wouldn't consider Africans to be black in the sense I consider Europeans to be white, you don't need a descriptor for the native population.


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Deleted User#0000
learn the definition of strawman before you use it, spastic


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Strawman
>Quit calling people names


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User learn how to argue better


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next use of "spastic" or other insults will be a ban.


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Deleted User#0000
George Washington called people names too


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And read some books


[23-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well then be better than George Washington.


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Deleted User#0000
he's a hero to the americans


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care.


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can't pretend you're a total politics nerd without having read any political theory books at all, you'll just end up being a self-serving idiot


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Deleted User#0000
only if it's a holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get to change the rules here because you can cherrypikk someone.


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, about holidays


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nile#1441
Washington is gay
*made by Anglo gang*


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a strawman because you're saying our argument is all holidays should go


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
when we're arguing against a particular holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Deleted User#0000
cause everything is "offensive" to idiots


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're deliberately misrepresenting the argument because you haven't come up with a rebuttal to the real argument


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Deleted User#0000
statistics are offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User NOBODY IS OFFENDED, IT IS YOU WHO ARE


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Deleted User#0000
the caps says otherwise


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would those idiots include us?


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, do you think we think it's "offensive"?


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nile#1441
I prefer to be called "retarded"


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nile#1441
Idiot is too harsh


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Deleted User#0000
christmas is considered offensive now


[23-Oct-18 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is not btw


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another strawman


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Deleted User#0000
offensive to pagans


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is very thoroughly debunked Republican propaganda


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not a pagan


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
adding €1 to my bank account of €0 would be considerd major economic growth in my bank account. add another and my economy has doubled. 💸


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
why are you talking about pagans?


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
My argument is not that Christmas is offensive.


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Deleted User#0000
hey, i'm using your logic that you're proud of


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nile#1441
Those poor 10 pagans who are upset over the best holiday of the year.


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
christians stole christmas from pagans


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whats with the pagan obsession?


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're deliberately misrepresenting my logic


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
with an argument you've constructed solely to defeat


[23-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is strawmanning.


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christmas isnt even jesus' birthday that date is soemwhere in august


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Deleted User#0000
the logic that you said that history is offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Mikey no, the Grinch did


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
kek


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
😱  The Grinch was a Christian


[23-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't say that history was offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
stop misrepresenting my argument.


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Deleted User#0000
just using the logic you're using


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i liek the fmaily and commercial aspects of christmas but i dont celebrate the religious parts


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're not using his logic


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Deleted User#0000
see how it falls apart?


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, learn how to argue better


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are not using my logic


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are creating your own logic to attempt to replace it with an argument you can defeat.


[23-Oct-18 01:33 AM] Deleted User#0000
might as well ban 9/11


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000
it's too offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000
hell ban NFL


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Nile#1441
wtf I agree


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000
not enough women in the NFL


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Nile#1441
Football is gay


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's another strawman.


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
9/11 isn't even a holiday


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Football is soccer


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah the nfl has gotten too powerful we need to diminisht heir power a bit


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Deleted User#0000
GASP, everything is offensive!


[23-Oct-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you're still going off the logic it's "offensive", whatever that's supposed to mean.


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Deleted User#0000
oh wait, it some sensitive person not handling his case of fucking history


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe make thme pay their taxes


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Deleted User#0000
ban the presidents, they're offensive too


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about some sensitive person


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User 
>dislike it when people represent Columbus for the idiot he actually was
>complain about people being oversensitive to history
>profit?


[23-Oct-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is about choosing who to praise based on their moral integrity in their actions.


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colombus could hav offended nobody today via his actions


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
he still wouldn't be worth praising.


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] Deleted User#0000
you can't just ignore history, just because it upsets you


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We do not ignore history


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fail to see how not giving him a holiday stops us knowing baout his history


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, 
The point 






(10 kilometers)

Your head


[23-Oct-18 01:36 AM] Deleted User#0000
if we're going to spaz and complain holidays, we might as well complain about everything else


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not ignoring history to not celebrate parts of it.


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nile#1441
Any holiday not celebrating Anglo accomplishments deserves to be scrapped.


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can explicitly talk about those parts of history, and point out how bad they were.


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is not ignoring them.


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Deleted User#0000
then never celebrate Abraham Lincoln then


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why? I did not say his actions showed bad moral integrity.


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Deleted User#0000
sure he was an asshole, but damn did he save the blacks


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We do celebrate his achievements and audacity to stand up for the slaves


[23-Oct-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, another strawman.


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In what way was he an asshole?


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Deleted User#0000
in what way he wasn't


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
found a rebel.


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I have not seen so much straws in one place


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The burden of proof is on you


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Mikey#7286
in what way was hitler bad

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[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's so many straws here california pissed itself in fear


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is on you to establish that my argument must also lead to not praising Abraham Lincoln.


[23-Oct-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I made no such claim that he should not be praised.


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Nile#1441
@Mikey He did nothing wrong :op:


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
lol\


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Hetlar did nothing worng


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stalin ruined everything


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Nile#1441
**worng**


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Deleted User#0000
Putin ruined everything


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Stalelin


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Deleted User#0000
Trump ruined everything


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin is ruining everything yes


[23-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Deleted User#0000
everything ruined everything


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also trump


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User yes, he is ruining a lot of stuff indeed


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Deleted User#0000
sure he did you liberal


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nile#1441
😂


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying i'm a libtard


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nile#1441
libtard btfo


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nile#1441
👌


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look at this guy's level


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I never thought I would meet someone worse than lemondrop at arguing


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just look at it


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american economy is about to crash worse thna it did in 2008 so let;s celebrate that


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Deleted User#0000
if you weren't a liberal, then bitching about holidays is child's play


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol le libtard maymay xD


[23-Oct-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User i'm an anarchist btw


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Deleted User#0000
lol


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Deleted User#0000
freeloader


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Conservanazi


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm center left


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nile#1441
I'm trad-con


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anarchist and anti-nationalist, if you're curious.


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im not sure what i am it;s gotten very confusing


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Deleted User#0000
that's rich a weeb telling me life lessons


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
ew traditionalism


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
j/k


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] Nile#1441
High Tory gang


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Mikey:trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust:


[23-Oct-18 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying i'm a weeb


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Far left here, here to remind you that some of the Far Left are *far* because of moral reasons instead of ideologies like communism/anarchism


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Deleted User#0000
didn't say i did, learn some reading comprehension gramps


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that, in the end


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
extremely well-foundationed morality will ultimately win out.


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[23-Oct-18 01:42 AM] Nile#1441
Centrism is kinda gay tbh


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Mikey#7286
there no such thing as true centrism


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nile#1441
If you're not far-left or far-right you're not doing politics right :op:


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Center-right traditionalist leaning here with some liberal tendencies


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk come laugh with us at this mofo


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Deleted User#0000
oh, so the steady increase of wealth isn't because of Trump, then who else can it be?


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm the left that wants to replace illegal immigrants with illegal aliens...from Vulcan ;p


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then open all the borders


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and let people hav sex with animals


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nile#1441
@SeraphimDawn Good thing you edited that, I was about to ask how can one be center-left and trad


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and broadcast it on live TV


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And legalize heroin


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[23-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Deleted User#0000
and pedophilia


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And offer FREE SHIT for everyone


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Deleted User#0000
but heaven forbid you vote for Trump


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
universal healthcare paid for by taxing the international drug trade


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Go to San Fransico


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Deleted User#0000
child rape is A-OK, least you didn't vote for Trump


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You will get your free shit there


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I side with France on the matter of rape law.


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hey i am a firm beleiver in necrophilia


[23-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a pretty nice one.


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie what is it?


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] Deleted User#0000
less butter lube next time


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] Nile#1441
Just because of how crazy some peoples' beliefs in this server are, I can't tell who is genuine or trolling.


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>tfw nobody cares about Thomas Sankara's achievements when leading Burkina Faso's socialist regime


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im trolling


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically in order to giv consent you hav to actually understand consent


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>because he was black, and a commie


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:trixdisgust: 🇫🇷 🥖


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] Nile#1441
Does Burkina Faso even really exist


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
France is for those who like to surrender


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Lol


[23-Oct-18 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile it does?


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can't just grab up kids off the street, but also you can if you want to date a 14 year old as long as you either keep it in your pants or she actually knows what's going on etc.


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Deleted User#0000
might as well rape any Trump supporter


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Burkina Faso? Capital, Wagadougou?


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nile#1441
I've never seen it on a map, just a lake right above Benin and Togo named Lake Burkina Faso


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nile#1441
Like how Belgium and Finland don't exist


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
(France previously had a shitty law where it had to involve force to be rape and, well, 2 11-year-olds got trikked into sex in a short time period...)


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Deleted User#0000
if the kid voted for Trump, it's A-OK to murder rape him to death


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Burkina Faso? Where's that?


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Africa.


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So many countries there


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man Cliff


[23-Oct-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
West Africa. North of Ghana.


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would require strict licensing for guns beyond handguns


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
worldwide


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Deleted User#0000
hey liberals would masturbate to that fucking idea, so color me shocked if more rape occurs


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody would be able to murder-rape easily


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Whenever people talk about Congo. People think of the Democratic Repunlic of Congo. What about the other smaller Congo?


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User nah, that's up to Bolsonaro's anti-SJW fans here in Brazil


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be police officers in every community making sure people get along


[23-Oct-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
unarmed police officers


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
whose sole job is to make sure people are getting employment, not getting shot at, etc.


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
Balsa Wood's Anti-SJW fans don't exist apparently


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
vote for trump, he'll legalize gay conversion therapy which totally works lmao


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
liberals only


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would be a damn peaceful utopia to the point it might drive you mad


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
of course, very expensive


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nile#1441
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 See? Proof it doesn't exist

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[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
no gays in the military


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They stabbed a capoeira teacher to death because he announced his vote to Bolsonaro's opposing candidate fyi


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but hey, we hav the money


[23-Oct-18 01:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
only liberals


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More cases like that are happening


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tax the billionnaires to pay for schools for the blakks


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ah, the hidden, ready-to-spring fascism of petty patriotism.


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Deleted User#0000
and who's to say the other way wouldn't happened?


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
gays can join the military if they choose


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Deleted User#0000
especially here in america


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
MUH OTHER SIDE


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Nile#1441
muh fascism


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Deleted User#0000
sounds like a shitty short


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military caring about people being gay was a massive waste of money


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
not to mention immoral.


[23-Oct-18 01:49 AM] Deleted User#0000
OFFENSIVE


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Military leadership actually said it was a massive waste


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
see, totally stupid


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they saw no value in doing it.


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
ban those military leaders than


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
homosexuality is bad cuz it goes against muh rulijun


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
they're offensive to homosexuals


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think your namecalling has to come to an end


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I spy an NPC


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seme to be unable to stop


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
>Unarmed police officers
https://youtu.be/jugjGq9SgPo

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1 immigrant vs 10 UK police
Uk 🇬🇧 police vs immigrant
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[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
funny i haven't namecalled in a while


[23-Oct-18 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are we gonna ban this noob already or are we just gonna take potshots at him? I mean, this is fun, but can get tiring as time passes


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nile#1441
Good thing about gays is that they don't reproduce or rarely adopt children :^)


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
>implying gays care about reproducing


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
more offensive


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nile#1441
I wasn't. lmao


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
ohh


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you start replacing substantive discussion with "totally stupid", you're on thin ice on namecalling in my book.


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
>implying overpopulation isn't an issue anyway


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Mikey reproduction is a necessity for our specie


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the gays strawman


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying reproduction is morally and ethically necessary


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those police vs. that immigrant


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nile#1441
I'm glad they don't reproduce, and their bloodline dies out


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] gay straws.


[23-Oct-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody was killed, right?


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems good in my book.


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Deleted User#0000
implying homosexuals has the right of consent


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arrest people instead of shoot them


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
people should be having less kids anyway


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
shooting people is a detriment to society.


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you lose the right of consent based on who you want to fukk?


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nile#1441
Africans and Indians should be having less kids.


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Deleted User#0000
offensive to kids


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie sometimes that ain't idwal


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Deleted User#0000
kids never consented to dying


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And? If the immigrant had a gun, the cops would've brought one too.


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
mkay, that's enough of that


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm bisexual, guess that means I'm not a real person


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I cut him off


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or are you saying it's sometimes preferable to shoot unarmed immigrants?


[23-Oct-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks Byte


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Based Byte


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nile#1441
Gay


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nile#1441
I liked Cliff


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie how would you know the guy didn't have guns?


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, visual inspection for one?


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That's the problem


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Mikey#7286
there is nothing wrong with homosexuality


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cops bring guns in the trunk usually


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>he unironically liked the namecalling noob


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't wear them normally.


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nile#1441
He was funny


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Yes. But if the suspects make a quick.moce on you


[23-Oct-18 01:53 AM] Nile#1441
Especially when y'all are often so miserable


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that happens, you dukk, open the trunk, and unload.


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
wtf happened


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Expecting everyone to be carrying a gun on them is insane.


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Starlight Glimmer <3 we had a troll I think


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Rip


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy basically said that caring about the past means you're TRIGGERED and that liberalism means raping children and trump supporters to death.


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Cops put themselves in the way of danger


[23-Oct-18 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
That is their job


[23-Oct-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
That's what they signed up for


[23-Oct-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
To protect and serve


[23-Oct-18 02:02 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] yeah. Bit they still need to have some mode of protecting themselves. They're people too yknow


[23-Oct-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why they bring guns in their car trunks


[23-Oct-18 02:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nile yeah he waa


[23-Oct-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Out of reach of criminals that might melee them or themselves if they get jumpy, until needed.


[23-Oct-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus in general preventing escalation of things that leads to more deaths.


[23-Oct-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overall, this prevents deaths and as a result contributes to society.


[23-Oct-18 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Meanwhile in other parts of the UK police ask for bigger cars because they can't get out of their cars with all their gear on and 2 guns...


[23-Oct-18 02:05 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@PwnyPony this is why cops prefer the good old Crown Vics


[23-Oct-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol Crown Vics, the keyed-alike nightmare


[23-Oct-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-54572186103590/1999-ford-crown-victoria-transponder-key-blank-10.jpg

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[23-Oct-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in many, many areas


[23-Oct-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the cop cars all are Crown Vics


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
all with the same key


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and when they retire, they become taxi cabs


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
all with still that same key


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if a police officer loses his key while arresting a taxi driver, the taxi driver can say "just use my key"


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This horrifies police officers when they find out.


[23-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if you can open a police car


[23-Oct-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can get a looooot of stuff from it.


[23-Oct-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 is rubbing his hands together like a proper anarchist now, if not masturbating.


[23-Oct-18 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK police only really drive cars made in UK. Mainly Vauxhall cars. They bought a fleet of them but the door frame of the car was too narrow and the AUGs  would be knocked by the door every time they got out. Always see people slowing down when they see a Vauxhall because it might be the police.


[23-Oct-18 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hehe


[23-Oct-18 02:14 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Well this discussion ended off on a "Cliff Hanger"

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[23-Oct-18 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[23-Oct-18 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>using bastard Menshevik flag to represent the USSR

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[23-Oct-18 02:33 AM] Arvid#8335
@Mikey Actually the the world isn't overpopulated currently. There is more than enough resources for the entire world but they're not being distributed to everyone. What we actually have is an abundance of resources.


[23-Oct-18 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
well being into guys isn't going to harm the population


[23-Oct-18 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
so


[23-Oct-18 02:34 AM] Arvid#8335
I know. =p


[23-Oct-18 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
cocks


[23-Oct-18 02:36 AM] Arvid#8335
Personally, I don't want kids at all anyway.


[23-Oct-18 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A lot of young gays will still manage to get someone pregnant trying to prove that they are somthing they are not. T_T


[23-Oct-18 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
who says they wouldn't stick it in the chick's ass anyway


[23-Oct-18 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
"accidentally" or not


[23-Oct-18 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://66.media.tumblr.com/7d574e5f25115ff0720f6c2c84b5f335/tumblr_pgw67t98DJ1w4eqqho1_1280.jpg

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[23-Oct-18 02:38 AM] Arvid#8335
Probably because pussy smells like fish I guess I dunno.


[23-Oct-18 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
if i were full on gay i wouldn't want to fuck a chick "just because"


[23-Oct-18 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the intensity of vaginal odor varies from person to person


[23-Oct-18 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What if she was a manly trap.


[23-Oct-18 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been with some who were essentially odorless and some who stank so badly I wasn't sure what to make of it


[23-Oct-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
how do you trap as a woman? 🤔


[23-Oct-18 02:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Dress up like a man?


[23-Oct-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look liek a dude and hit o other women?


[23-Oct-18 02:43 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[23-Oct-18 02:43 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess it'd be easier than a dude posing as a chick


[23-Oct-18 02:43 AM] Mikey#7286
but what if you have big boobs?


[23-Oct-18 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you probably arent passing as a female trap


[23-Oct-18 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless you wanna go for a gut to compoliment the boobs and tyr passing thme off as man boobs?


[23-Oct-18 02:45 AM] Mikey#7286
like if you wore a fake mustache, cut your hair, faked a package


[23-Oct-18 02:45 AM] Mikey#7286
but you put on baggy clothes


[23-Oct-18 02:46 AM] Mikey#7286
and your tits were still obvious


[23-Oct-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
grow or fake a gut and try passing thme off as extreme man boobs?


[23-Oct-18 02:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Breast reductions are a thing.


[23-Oct-18 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
d-do i post a political meme in here or the meme channel?


[23-Oct-18 02:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Depends if the politics out weight the meme I guess.


[23-Oct-18 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump healthcare meme?


[23-Oct-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/world/americas/migrants-caravan-mexico.html

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By MAYA AVERBUCH and KIRK SEMPLE
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/world/americas/migrants-caravan-mexico.html
Migrant Caravan Continues North, Defying Mexico and U.S.
Thousands of undocumented migrants defied orders by the Mexican authorities to register. They are part of a larger group that traveled from Honduras.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/22/world/22caravan1/22caravan1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Oct-18 03:19 AM] Nile#1441
smh this again


[23-Oct-18 04:57 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sQedAp0ME

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Masaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sQedAp0ME
The Evolution of French Canada (and why they still Refuse to Speak...
Where on Earth did the French Canadians come from, and how did they get in one of the most barren regions in the world? Today we will discuss the history and...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/48sQedAp0ME/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-18 04:59 AM] Nile#1441
Masaman is a channel I enjoy, though I haven't watched his vids lately


[23-Oct-18 05:26 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I love history. It's the one subject I enjoyed in highschool


[23-Oct-18 05:27 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Especially histories on warfare, gastronomy, society, ancient civilizations, and other snippets and pieces Simple History talks about.


[23-Oct-18 05:28 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQQyr4_2Atw

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Masaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQQyr4_2Atw
Who are the Mormons?
Who are the Mormons? A quirky group that certainly stands out among modern Americans for many of their unorthodox practices, beliefs and demographic traits, ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vQQyr4_2Atw/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-18 05:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Cultural, linguistic, and ethnic diversity of China explained.


[23-Oct-18 05:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/v4bZ1rpCGt8

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Masaman
https://youtu.be/v4bZ1rpCGt8
Chinese are all the same? The many Ethnic Groups in the People's R...
A lot of people might be tempted to think that the People's Republic of China is an extremely ethnically homogeneous country, and strictly judging by ethnic ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v4bZ1rpCGt8/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-18 06:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLIaBrsjoUw

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Masaman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLIaBrsjoUw
Regions of the World that were a Different Race/Ethnicity/Religion...
How has immigration, ethnic cleansing and racial intermixing changed the face of many regions of the planet? Today we're going to discuss regions of the worl...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mLIaBrsjoUw/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-18 09:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBi-3doEzU

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BadMouseProductions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBi-3doEzU
Capitalism and Slavery
A little Vloging around Bristol showcasing the slave owner's houses who used to live here and own people. Twitter - https://twitter.com/BadMouse101 Patreon -...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4qBi-3doEzU/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-18 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-ted-cruz-wife-heidi-20181018-story.html

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-ted-cruz-wife-heidi-20181018-story.html
Ted Cruz's wife Heidi is upset they can't afford a second home - N...
In a rare interview, Heidi Cruz, the smiling wife of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, sat for a lengthy profile about all kinds of matters related to being married to one of the most widely recognized politicians.
https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/rGObhtfRLEoeNQ12MwEUJ82zdwE=/1200x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5bc9d964/turbine/ny-news-ted-cruz-wife-heidi-20181018


[23-Oct-18 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh how sad that must be that she can'tget a second home. I mean i got my second home last tuesday because that;s a normal thing every american totally has


[23-Oct-18 03:49 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I don't even have a job


[23-Oct-18 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[23-Oct-18 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live with my parents


[23-Oct-18 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont evne have a first house


[23-Oct-18 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/22/17991928/hidden-tribes-more-in-common-david-brooks

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/22/17991928/hidden-tribes-more-in-common-david-brooks
"Hidden Tribes," the new report centrists are using to explain awa...
Is there really an "exhausted majority" of Americans against partisanship? Probably not.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/sR00HcYGpZe4JTZ_RRHK3Bq3Ugw=/0x215:3000x1786/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13312529/835623434.jpg.jpg


[23-Oct-18 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
"This would suggest that the decline in compromise isn’t a problem of two polarized camps, but rather hardline conservatives who won’t give ground to anybody else. The significance of these seven groupings depends on how you analyze the data; put differently, the seven tribes exist only because researchers created them."


[23-Oct-18 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
What a surprise


[23-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Arvid#8335
Make America Siesta Again (TM @AaronMk)


[23-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nile#1441
There is very little that hardline conservatives like myself can even compromise on.


[23-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How hardline are you?


[23-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give an example of a topic


[23-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Nile#1441
This may not be as hardline as other things, but I'm pro-death penalty, and for bringing back certain forms of execution.


[23-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What other forms? Hanging?


[23-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Electric chair? Firing squad?


[23-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gas chamber?


[23-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Nile#1441
Mostly just hanging and firing squad. They're cheaper and trustworthy forms of humane execution.


[23-Oct-18 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I firmly believe that the death penalty is cruel and unusual inherently


[23-Oct-18 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"humane execution" is an oxymoron


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nile#1441
In a broad context maybe, but when we compare methods of execution along the centuries I'd say there is a decent consensus of a humane execution.


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
how about opioid overdose


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
why can't we kill people with fentanyl


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically what lethal injection is


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
no, lethal injection is potassium chloride


[23-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nitrogen asphyxiation has been tried


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly it is the most "humane" but again, no execution method is


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nile#1441
Part of the problem with drug executions is the cost and it can often not work.


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
in either case, I don't agree with the death penalty


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
oh please


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just because they're fucking stupid


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
fentanyl is so ridiculously potent that the doctors that handle it have to be careful not to die


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] DevField#5162
I don't believe that any person is beyond saving. 
well, most people...


[23-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nile#1441
If you don't get enough of the substance you need, it can result in a painful death.


[23-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is another hardline issue for you


[23-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nile#1441
Probably immigration.


[23-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what do you think of birthright citizenship


[23-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Regarding immigration I think it should be made as easy as possible with effort expended only to respond to terrorist threats


[23-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think the state should have any role in directing culture, so for example if they are legally here and pay taxes I don't care how "American" they are in terms of speaking English/enjoying culture etc


[23-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Nile#1441
I'm willing to compromise on making immigration easier to obtain, but I want stricter limits on immigrant numbers per year. As for birthright citizenship I am opposed to it.


[23-Oct-18 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
North American Schengen would be my ideal


[23-Oct-18 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
what is a "citizen" really


[23-Oct-18 11:12 PM] Nile#1441
Is this a Jordan Peterson kind of question


[23-Oct-18 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
hey, vsauce! michael here

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[23-Oct-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Birthright citizenship is probably one of the most important civil rights


[23-Oct-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't worth giving up over "anchor baby" fears


[23-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Nile#1441
I disagree.


[23-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So if I am an American born in for example Iowa to two US citizens


[23-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do I do to become a citizen? What am I until I am one?


[23-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Nile#1441
I don't personally see the logic that a baby born to parents from say, Honduras, without U.S. documents for either of them or at least one should be allowed citizenship because they were born on the soil.


[23-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean there's centuries of precedent


[23-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
English air making one free for example


[23-Oct-18 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't want Starship Troopers bs


[23-Oct-18 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah see what you want is cutting off your legs to solve a nose itch


[23-Oct-18 11:17 PM] Nile#1441
What I want is not unreasonable.


[23-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't think we should be letting thousands of undocumented immigrants over willy nilly


[23-Oct-18 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I think that had your circumstances been different you'd be singing a much different tune


[23-Oct-18 11:19 PM] Nile#1441
If I was born in the U.S. but both of my parents were Canadian, I don't think I should be given citizenship. Not only is it stupid since parents can use it as leverage for immigration status, but it causes complications for children born in the host nation to not have their parents be legal citizens, or even be allowed in the country.


[23-Oct-18 11:19 PM] Nile#1441
Especially if they have no family in the U.S.


[23-Oct-18 11:21 PM] Nile#1441
@byte[] I'm not going to really think about such a hypothetical, there's not much of a reason to.


[23-Oct-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I reiterate


[23-Oct-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is not worth giving up birthright


[23-Oct-18 11:22 PM] Nile#1441
Agree to disagree.


[23-Oct-18 11:22 PM] Nile#1441
But what about my other point in regards to immigration


[23-Oct-18 11:23 PM] Nile#1441
Make it easier to gain citizenship, but restrict the number of immigrants per year


[23-Oct-18 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[23-Oct-18 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Once legal citizenship is obtained, an immigrant owes nothing more to the US than a native does


[23-Oct-18 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obedience of laws and payment of taxes


[23-Oct-18 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Restrictions on numbers is simply the state trying to dictate an "American" culture and protect it which is absurd, even native born Americans don't have a united American culture beyond belief in rule of law


[23-Oct-18 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
(many don't even have that)


[23-Oct-18 11:25 PM] Nile#1441
Or perhaps number restrictions so that the nation isn't overwhelmed by thousands of new residents every year


[23-Oct-18 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Free market can handle it


[23-Oct-18 11:25 PM] Nile#1441
lol


[23-Oct-18 11:26 PM] Nile#1441
Free market will use these people for low-wage slave labor.


[23-Oct-18 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is why you have labor protections...


[23-Oct-18 11:26 PM] Nile#1441
And do you think corporations care about those?


[23-Oct-18 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not when they get the GOP in power lol


[23-Oct-18 11:27 PM] Nile#1441
They haven't cared for decades.


[23-Oct-18 11:27 PM] Mikey#7286
no one in either party cares


[23-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Care for votes


[23-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
that's an empty thing lol


[23-Oct-18 11:29 PM] Nile#1441
Perhaps if the government wasn't sucking the teets of big corp and they grew a spine, I'd love to see harsh punishments dealt to corporations hiring low-wage immigrant labor.


[23-Oct-18 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
if I remember right they made changes to the H1B program in the US


[23-Oct-18 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean like


[23-Oct-18 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A high minimum wage that is constantly adjusted


[23-Oct-18 11:31 PM] Nile#1441
Yeah, sure


[23-Oct-18 11:31 PM] Nile#1441
It used to be like that, didn't it


[23-Oct-18 11:32 PM] Mikey#7286
that's why we need someone independent, and imo abolish the two party system


[23-Oct-18 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tfw use HOI4 to live out the Huey Long(dong) dream


[23-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Nile#1441
One part where I differ from Republican-style conservatives is that especially nowadays, I have some socialist sympathies in terms of economics.


[23-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Nile#1441
Or at least I think I do.


[23-Oct-18 11:35 PM] Mikey#7286
also we really need anti-corruption laws, too


[23-Oct-18 11:35 PM] Nile#1441
Yeah but good luck getting that kind of legislation through, or even to be enforced.


[23-Oct-18 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some people in the parties do care


[23-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but corporations pay a lot of money to not care or to not vote when bills come up.


[23-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every Man a King (But No One Wears a Crown)


[23-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats generally do take a pro-worker stance


[23-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if it's muddled by business influence on their party


[23-Oct-18 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
The two-party system wasn't historically as batshit as it may seem now


[23-Oct-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Newt fukking Gingrich


[23-Oct-18 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Though there were some interesting events like a dude being hit over the head with a cane


[23-Oct-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Moon Man Gingrich


[23-Oct-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
mr. "you can't talk to the other party's incoming members as a Republican incoming member"


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democratic Party needs their own 11th Commandment


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Play hard ball


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, conservatives love *talking* about the Moon


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
not going there


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both parties do that now tho


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're just hoping Tesla does it first


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Funding NASA isn't near as popular as pretending you want NASA to do something.


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Nile#1441
I honestly don't care about the Moon.


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tesla will absolutely run in 2020


[23-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Mikey#7286
we should go to Mars


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So painfully obvious


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
yes


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl go to the sun


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
we are


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mars is too far to support


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean humans


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
then where?


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humans shoudl go to the sun


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
A Mars base this century would be a colossal and deadly mistake


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Moon takes like 3 days to get to.


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
We don't have anywhere to go right now


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is like training wheels for having a base on a hostile environment.


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
We should go to our core.


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
i was just making a quip @prism stryder(intexda) :P


[23-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Venus cloud colony pls


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll still be really hard to keep a Moon base going


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With all of the


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but if something goes wrong, a rokket could get there to help in a few days


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
AEIOU


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of half a year


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
well there's the mars program anyway that afaik is still proposed


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
JOHN MADDEN


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
so


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking Will we make a clone army from the Venus cloud colony?


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mars Direct is unrealistic.


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most Mars plans right now are


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
we don't hav the technology to support a long term base


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
not a base


[23-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we'd need a closer base we can supply regularly to figure things out.


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even just going to Mars is a problem, @Mikey


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
there is this


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
http://www.mars-one.com


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a long journey


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means radiation


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
particles of iron slamming into your stomach at half the speed of light


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
giving you stomach cancer


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
we currently don't hav the radiation shielding to stop this, btw


[23-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
i think you underestimate how far tech has advanced since the 60s neb


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I do not


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
yes


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was a recent article about this problem.


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
you do


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I think you're underestimating how intelligent Nebbie is about these matters


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
we could go to the moon in less than a day likely


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav not developed much better radiation protection since the 60s


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[23-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
do you even understand orbital mechanics?


[23-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You do not just arrive at your destination faster with the same fuel efficiency.


[23-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Mikey#7286
how did it take New Horizons 8 hours to do so?


[23-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
That wasn't on a FRT


[23-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
That was on a flyby trajectory


[23-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It went by the moon at SOLAR SYSTEM ESCAPE VELOCITY


[23-Oct-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah sure, if you want to get to the Moon's surface in 8 hours, you can do that and aim for the Moon


[23-Oct-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then you hit the moon at solar system escape velocity


[23-Oct-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if you could slow down from that, it's a *massive* waste of fuel.


[23-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also incredibly risky if your capture burn engine doesn't light


[23-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause then the astronauts *fukking die*


[23-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want a Free-Return Trajectory


[23-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that if your capture burn fails, you just end up in Earth's atmosphere and land safely


[23-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
(the orbit looks like a figure 8 with very squashed and differently-sized two oval bits)


[23-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, to go to the Moon, you want to do it in a few days


[23-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
unless it's an emergency of some kind and you're sending an unmanned rokket.


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, trouble is


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same problem going to Mars, except there's no FRT


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
If your capture burn fails at Mars, you go off into interstellar space and die.


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we bring back nuclear rocket plans pls


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh we don't need them anymore if plasma pans out


[23-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, even if your capture burn goes fine around Mars


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you read Voyager by Stephen Baxter?


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
you've just spent 8 months in interplanetary space


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Mass-energy equivalence is annoying


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Voyage, excuse me


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
8 months with particles of iron tearing up your guts = cancer, lots of cancer


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
LOTS of cancer.


[23-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, Mars landing in 1986 because Apollo keeps going on


[23-Oct-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are *concepts* on shielding from this radiation


[23-Oct-18 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apollo N (nuclear) kills all the astronauts tho


[23-Oct-18 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
where are these iron particles coming from


[23-Oct-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
like turning around so fuel is in front to catch most of the radiation


[23-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exploding supernovae, @byte[]


[23-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind that past the first few elements


[23-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
iron is most abundant


[23-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it is the stability point between fission and fusion


[23-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
heavier elements prefer to fission, lighter prefer to be fused


[23-Oct-18 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
once a star is fusing iron, it goes boom.


[23-Oct-18 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
sure


[23-Oct-18 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
but aren't paneling materials impervious to large particles


[23-Oct-18 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with very fast charged iron atoms flying every which way


[23-Oct-18 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sort of


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's probabilistic that any given particle will be stopped


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
like, even alpha particles can't pass through a few inches of metal


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
heavier particles will be more likely to be stopped by any given thikkness


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
however


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
i can only imagine the KE of a Fe nuclei bombardment


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is always some that beat the odds and get thru


[23-Oct-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, you get things like the Apollo astronauts seeing flashes when they closed their eyes


[23-Oct-18 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
from heavy charged particles striking the retina


[23-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Outside the Earth's protective magnetosphere, space is not a fun place to be an organism.


[24-Oct-18 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[24-Oct-18 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, half the carbon we eat goes out our poop which makes using crops to recycle CO2 infeasible without super-incinerating


[24-Oct-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey right now a Mars base isn't feasible, and neither is getting there with living Humans.


[24-Oct-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to invent the technology to do both those things.


[24-Oct-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Moon base presents both challenges in ways where they're a lot easier to deal with.


[24-Oct-18 12:04 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I mean maybe going there is feasible but staying or coming back not


[24-Oct-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Learn to walk before you try to leap across mountains.


[24-Oct-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going there is not feasible.


[24-Oct-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone would die of cancer before landing.


[24-Oct-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
To prevent that, we'd need excessive radiation shielding...if not an outright deflector setup.


[24-Oct-18 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, bring your own magnetosphere, not quite Star Trek deflector, but could work...and be VERY power-hungry.


[24-Oct-18 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably would mean bringing a nuclear reactor along


[24-Oct-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
which you'd need anyways once on Mars cause solar and wind energy are pretty weak there.


[24-Oct-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and wind is incredibly high maintenance while solar stops working every few years for potentially multiple months, like what killed the Opportunity rover)


[24-Oct-18 12:08 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Welp i didn't knew that, i guess that's the reason why the curiosity was such a success


[24-Oct-18 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[24-Oct-18 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Curiosity is actually too large to carry solar panels to power itself feasibly.


[24-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why in The Martian the big manned rover has to plug in to charge, as well.


[24-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Solar panels big enuff to power a car-sized vehicle just would be huge.


[24-Oct-18 12:12 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
and being so far from the sun makes matters worse i guess....


[24-Oct-18 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
@Nebbie so then where do we go?


[24-Oct-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Moon.


[24-Oct-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
For probably the next 30 years.


[24-Oct-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is nobody wants to put up the money to go there.


[24-Oct-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA has some ideas and they're shit.


[24-Oct-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is focused on Mars and doesn't hav the tech.


[24-Oct-18 12:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey stay on Earth and try to save it before it all comes crashing down.


[24-Oct-18 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boeing came up with a new lunar lander


[24-Oct-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
14m tall, you need an elevator to get down to the surface.


[24-Oct-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because HURR HYDROGEN IS BEST FUEL GAIZ LET'S USE IT FOR A SINGLE STAGE LANDER


[24-Oct-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because NASA's ideas involve a "lunar gateway" that stores tons of hydrogen fuel


[24-Oct-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because hydrogen is all congress will let NASA play with because that's what the companies are tooled to build stuff for


[24-Oct-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because corruption.


[24-Oct-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, in-space refueling is a bad idea in general unless you hav something making fuel out of moon rokks.


[24-Oct-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(there are no plans and the tech isn't there to make fuel out of moon rokks)


[24-Oct-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the cold war is back because our president is an idiot


[24-Oct-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"hurr durr duh rudja no lispen to deh treaties we jud gust bak out isntead of punijing dem"


[24-Oct-18 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
_NATIONALISM_


[24-Oct-18 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can make up words too!


[24-Oct-18 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
flarblegursted


[24-Oct-18 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/khashoggi-s-son-forced-to-shake-hands-in-photo-op-with-crown-prince-20181024-p50bi5.html

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Khashoggi's son forced to shake hands in photo op with Crown Prince
"This photo makes me want to scream and throw up," one Saudi observer wrote on social media.
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[24-Oct-18 02:41 AM] Nile#1441
Why is he even in Saudi Arabia


[24-Oct-18 02:47 AM] Arvid#8335
Interesting how the corporate media mostly ignored all the people in Yemen that were getting murdered by Saudi Arabia.


[24-Oct-18 02:48 AM] Nile#1441
Because they’re not journalists


[24-Oct-18 02:48 AM] Nile#1441
So they’re not so important


[24-Oct-18 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[24-Oct-18 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He is in saudi arabia probably because if he didn't show, the crown pricne probably threatened him and his loved ones


[24-Oct-18 03:00 AM] Nile#1441
Probably


[24-Oct-18 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or because he lives in Arabia, and his dad for a long time reported from within the Saudi court as an approved insider until he came into conflict with the house of Saud and left the court in protest.


[24-Oct-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Salah Kashoggi also can not leave the country, he's banned from travel


[24-Oct-18 03:01 AM] Nile#1441
RIP


[24-Oct-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
They banned Salah from travel last year.


[24-Oct-18 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There is no escape from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride, it seems, then.


[24-Oct-18 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
By Allah he will purge you from the court.


[24-Oct-18 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which will put you on another wild ride.


[24-Oct-18 03:07 AM] Nile#1441
Kashoggi 2: Saudi Boogaloo


[24-Oct-18 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo early voting on thursday for NC


[24-Oct-18 03:14 AM] Nile#1441
We had municipal elections here recently and I gave no shit.


[24-Oct-18 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my case my ballot coems with republicans tyring to pass control laws through voters


[24-Oct-18 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
control laws beign laws that allow thme to bypass the governor/rules of north carolian and do whatever the fuck they want


[24-Oct-18 03:17 AM] Nile#1441
wew


[24-Oct-18 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I spent more than ten seconds trying to parse that


[24-Oct-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here we go https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45960865

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Trump: Khashoggi murder 'worst cover-up'
The US said it would revoke the visas of Saudi operatives suspected of killing of the journalist.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06pp4yg.jpg


[24-Oct-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He managed to phrase it in a way to disparage the Saudis rather than say their behavior was bad


[24-Oct-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Implying his cover-ups are better etc.


[24-Oct-18 05:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trumps coverups are the best coverups. nobody does cover ups as well as he does.


[24-Oct-18 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Somehow the Derpibooru politics thread manages to be worse than this server's one.


[24-Oct-18 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's been estabilished for a longer time, but at least this server thread here has sensible people with an actual basis talking.


[24-Oct-18 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Talking politics with Kylebiddle is torture.


[24-Oct-18 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
BUT 🅱adging 🅱adger IT'S ONLY NATURAL TO HATE EVERYONE NOT IN YOUR FAMILY


[24-Oct-18 06:16 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  Not everyone knows this Discord exists.


[24-Oct-18 06:17 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
At least most memebers probably don't care nor know about this server


[24-Oct-18 06:32 AM] Nile#1441
I imagine most Derpi users would be banned if they dared come here


[24-Oct-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh


[24-Oct-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
real-time chat formats usually allow for resolving conflict better


[24-Oct-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
because misunderstandings don't pepetuate from the long gaps in communication.


[24-Oct-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But also, many of the more unreasonable people view any sort of forum system as free reign to practice point-by-point bullshit.


[24-Oct-18 06:35 AM] Nile#1441
Yee


[24-Oct-18 07:08 AM] ononim#8141
http://omnonim.tumblr.com/post/179373373461/the-wildest-thing-about-proud-boys-entering-the

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The wildest thing about Proud Boys entering the...
Anonymous said: The wildest thing about Proud Boys entering the political spotlight is that nobody mentions that footage of Gavin McInnes eating a bowl of cornflakes with his own piss instead of milk...
https://66.media.tumblr.com/avatar_4a2b49c8557b_512.pnj


[24-Oct-18 07:08 AM] ononim#8141
Why the fuck modern right is like this


[24-Oct-18 07:08 AM] ononim#8141
First adult baby diaper play to own the libs now pisschugger snitching on his own underlings


[24-Oct-18 07:09 AM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493236786475302924/504466944666239015/image0.jpg

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[24-Oct-18 07:22 AM] Nile#1441
Your blog is mega gay


[24-Oct-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
l e l


[24-Oct-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
absolutely woke


[24-Oct-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only way to fight the liberals


[24-Oct-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to become gay


[24-Oct-18 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't beat 'em, beat 'em off.


[24-Oct-18 07:33 AM] ononim#8141
@Nile danke


[24-Oct-18 12:27 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Oct-18 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/4k4wsairylzz.jpg

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[24-Oct-18 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
omg this version with the centrism https://i.redd.it/5lq5mu9c1dj01.jpg

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[24-Oct-18 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh maaan https://i.redd.it/yn59634ime8z.jpg


[24-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Incendiaries and biocides sent to dozens of homes and offices in what looks to be a coordinated terrorist attack on left-wing figures


[24-Oct-18 07:32 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://globalnews.ca/news/4585435/south-korea-residents-cannabis-canada/amp/

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South Koreans may face prison time if they smoke cannabis in Canad...
South Koreans who use cannabis while in Canada could face criminal charges when they return to their home country, Korean police are warning.


[24-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1MY1ZE

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Suspicious packages sent to top Democrats, CNN as election looms
Police intercepted suspected explosive devices sent to former U.S. President Bar...


[24-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
sorry, not dozens


[24-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
just a few


[24-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
but it is hard to overstate the significance of this


[24-Oct-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be expected.


[24-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
So either there was some real dumbass Republican who thought violence is the way to kill an ideology, or it's a real dumbass Democrat who wanted to kill their own to false flag


[24-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
Hopefully they get to the bottom of it soon


[24-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Litrojia#0612
leaning the former since they targeted Soros and folks like that, I know he was hated on /pol/, the_donald, etc.


[24-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
after a bit of thought, definitely the former


[24-Oct-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey, rojia, want to talk healthcare policy again?


[24-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, false flags tend to be rare to begin with because you're sacrificing someone at incredible risk, making it not worth it.


[24-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well as because attakks like this *will* happen anyways, basically making it entirely unnecessary.


[24-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah that's what I was thinking, no way someone would go to these lengths for a false flag


[24-Oct-18 08:47 PM] Litrojia#0612
that's Alex Jones territory of conspiracy


[24-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Litrojia#0612
On healthcare, again I lean left on healthcare issues but just don't have the life experiences to be too confident on my stance


[24-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I see. I mostly base my views on it based on a mix of morality (letting people die of diabetes or injury/disease in general when we can pay for treatment is wrong and requires the cost of treatment to be very high to outweigh that) and data on cost vs efficacy (private healthcare is very expensive for similar levels of care).


[24-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of note: Switzerland's healthcare is private, with an individual mandate, but the system works much better. It's very expensive for European healthcare, but also among the best.


[24-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
So private can totally work...just not how the US does it.


[24-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Litrojia#0612
Switzerland makes pretty much everything work though


[24-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because of direct democracy


[24-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Litrojia#0612
not saying it could *only* work there, but scaling what they do to the US would be tough


[24-Oct-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
More indirect democracy has the advantage of being able to stop populism's discrimination, but often works poorly in other areas.


[24-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
There we go, forgot which direction the sentence was talking about for a moment.


[24-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah, was confused for a minute there


[24-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, Switzerland banned minarettes and didn't giv women the right to vote until the 90s


[24-Oct-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but otherwise it's a pretty okay place because when a corporation spirals out of control, people just say "nope"


[24-Oct-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
What's wrong with banning minarets


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a restriction on freedom with no moral or economic basis.


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
That's what seems nice to me about smaller countries like that, it's harder for power to be very far removed from the people


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're just architectural features.


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Oh yeah, forgot about the minaret thing


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ban is entirely to make a statement that Muslims are bad.


[24-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
kinda silly


[24-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is not something the gov't should be in the business of doing.


[24-Oct-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Restricting freedom specifically to disparage religion.


[24-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
it's not like Muslims are gonna go away because they banned their architecture


[24-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Nile#1441
I don't even have the freedom to place a flagpole on my lawn without asking, I'm sure not having minarets is fine


[24-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you own your lawn?


[24-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see that as comparable if you don't.


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nile#1441
I pay rent, that should be enough for one flagpole


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
That sounds like an issue to take up more with city/municipal officials.


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
what if common church architectural styles were banned?


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or the landlord.


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
But no, landlords don't like modification to the property.


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would you be alright with people banning that to disparage Christianity?


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nile#1441
They are, often in the Middle East


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
But is that okay?


[24-Oct-18 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't ask whether it has happened.


[24-Oct-18 08:59 PM] Nile#1441
Personally I don't like it but it's a minor thing to raise a stink about.


[24-Oct-18 08:59 PM] Nile#1441
The congregation is more important than the architecture


[24-Oct-18 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It being minor doesn't make it okay.


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland passing incredibly silly laws for evil intentions is not okay.


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Nile#1441
>evil intentions


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Litrojia#0612
Interesting that the ban was voted on by referendum, so most of the voters were alright with it


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Harming society overall is not good.


[24-Oct-18 09:00 PM] Litrojia#0612
though majority of voters doesn't necessarily mean a majority of people


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nile#1441
How does not allowing a mosque to have minarets harm society overall


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does nothing to prevent harm, but creates harm by disparaging muslims and restricting the freedom of architects.


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Litrojia#0612
that gets into a whole separate debate


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is therefore overall harmful.


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nile#1441
If I was a Swiss man, how would I be harmed by this


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most Swiss would not be


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but a Muslim swiss man would be harmed by this


[24-Oct-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
by the gov't making a statement against their religion


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and by being unable to build a mosque the way he would want to.


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nile#1441
Switzerland is merely doing what Muslim nations do in relation to their Christian minorities


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
0 harm to most Swiss and positive harm to a minority of Swiss averages to a positive harm.


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not okay because the other side does it.


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is bad if either does.


[24-Oct-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get to kill the muslims because they kill the jews.


[24-Oct-18 09:03 PM] Nile#1441
What I'm getting at is if you're so frustrated that your mosque or church doesn't look like the Hagia Sophia or something, that's your problem.


[24-Oct-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a minor harm, but that doesn't make it okay.


[24-Oct-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no valid reason for doing it.


[24-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only a bunch of excuses to wash away that it is harmful.


[24-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nile#1441
To you there isn't, to the Swiss voting populace there probably is.


[24-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Argumentum ad Populum


[24-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An attack on one religion is an attack on freedom of all religions


[24-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
(a fallacy)


[24-Oct-18 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is an all or nothing freedom


[24-Oct-18 09:05 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not going to sit around and brow-beat nations for doing something they themselves are fine with.


[24-Oct-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nation as a whole enjoying something does not change its morality.


[24-Oct-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a few nations had popular approval of genocides and that doesn't make them okay.


[24-Oct-18 09:06 PM] Nile#1441
k


[24-Oct-18 09:07 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not going to really bother comparing banning a few minarets to mass extermination, that's silly.


[24-Oct-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not a comparison


[24-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If we take, as assumption, that a nation approving of something makes it morally right


[24-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and also that genocide is morally wrong


[24-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
without an exception for the former to the latter.


[24-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then, therefore, there are several contradictions.


[24-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a proof by contradiction that a nation approving of something does not make it morally right.


[24-Oct-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Logically, you must either not make one of the assumptions, or provide an exception that covers all of the contradicting cases that can exist.


[24-Oct-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
(such an exception is...infeasible to create)


[24-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Zidders#7091
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-ammann/the-real-reasons-why-the_b_373947.html It was pushed by nationalists. They took advantage of peoples inherent fear of the other to promote their own agenda. The majority of people who voted for it got played.

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[24-Oct-18 10:21 PM] Zidders#7091
Anyone who thinks there's any logical reason to ban a type of architecture merely because the people who utilize it just happen to be a particular religion (the majority of which practices it peacefully, abhors violence and speaks out against terrorism) is being a sucker, too.


[24-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ye they should be banning religion


[24-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
:>


[24-Oct-18 10:23 PM] Zidders#7091
No because for the most part the majority of religious people out there do good. Even going back to the USA's civil war era you wouldn't have had things like anti-slavery movements or the underground railroad if it wasn't for religious folks. Don't make the fools mistake of lumping the whole together with the worst of it.


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's all bad


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
The people may be good but the religion is seperate


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Zidders#7091
Then you're either trolling or a fool.


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's a shitposter


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't really like religion honestly, sorry


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
We ignore him


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Religion's only purpose is to stray people from the truth


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Zidders#7091
Religion is like most everything else-a complicated matter.


[24-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can be a good person and just not be part of religion


[24-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Really religion has popularity as most people can't think for themselves very well


[24-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It comforts them because their tiny minds cannot handle things like the dread of existence and all that sort of thing


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Mikey#7286
I have nothing against religious people until they start going homophobic and "morality" and how I'm going to hell for liking someone of the same sex


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but the issue is it like anything was manufactured by people and it's just used in such poor ways in all contexts


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people use it to refute science, they use it to justify stupid things


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all just dumb and useless


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] DevField#5162
I disagree, it's useful alright, just not for good reasons.


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Zidders#7091
I'm an atheist. I'm not religious. I get just as frustrated as others do the difference is I grew up with good religious people. I've seen the good they can do. What it all comes down to is it doesn't matter what you believe or what you don't as long as the end results are kindness, compassion and acceptance. There are just as many non-religious hateful people out there as there are religious hateful types. That and plenty of religious people stand as allies with those of us in the LGBTQIA community. It's unfair to all those supportive people to condemn them along with the rest.


[24-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[24-Oct-18 10:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
every time I see LGBT another letter is added to the end


[24-Oct-18 10:27 PM] DevField#5162
I think I would sympathise with your point of view the most @Zidders


[24-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm also atheist


[24-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Zidders#7091
If you sit there hating on every single religious person you're just as bigoted. Also LGBTQIA has been around for over 20 years. Please keep up.


[24-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm mostly apathetic to religion though


[24-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Being atheist is too normie for me, I simply don't choose a side because it's all irrelevant


[24-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Atheists aren't "choosing a side"


[24-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also o man sorry I forgot they added Attack Helicopter to the list of genders they gotta pay tribute to


[24-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Mikey#7286
It's simply the lack of belief in a god


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean that's debatable


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
By announcing that you're an atheist that means you reject the idea of it


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I think I have the most respect for Christianity though


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I however do not exactly think there isn't a god


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there might be


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just do not know, nor does anyone


[24-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
that's agnostic


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just don't try to go worship it because I'm not retarded


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] ononim#8141
y'all really having athesism discourse circa 00s huh?


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Atheism isn't the outright rejection of to idea


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
p sure it is


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
That's gnosticism


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Wrong


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gayitism


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't believe in a god


[24-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye I don't know these words


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Mikey#7286
But I don't claim to know if there is one or not


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
am not educated enough in religion to classify myself lol


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
nor do I really care to be


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Therefore I am an agnostic atheist


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I think atheism can be sort of a spectrum, not everything who's atheist has the same exact opinion


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
everyone*


[24-Oct-18 10:31 PM] Nile#1441
In contrast, I'm hardline Christian.


[24-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[24-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gl with that


[24-Oct-18 10:32 PM] Nile#1441
gl to you


[24-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't need luck


[24-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for it does not exist


[24-Oct-18 10:33 PM] Nile#1441
k


[24-Oct-18 10:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It just makes me sad to see religious people in an age of such easy access to knowledge


[24-Oct-18 10:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
personally I'm agnostic but I've taken interest in some pagan things


[24-Oct-18 10:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I mean I see a lot of things that make me sad


[24-Oct-18 10:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
why?


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people still drink alcohol and that confuses me so I can only conclude people just don't have brains


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the info is there they just cannot grasp it


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
some people follow religion more for the moral guidelines and the fact it's easier for them to believe there may be a god


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
easier yes


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] Nile#1441
Or maybe people just don't care about being lectured and still will worship their god or drink their alcohol


[24-Oct-18 10:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but not true


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Again this is what I mean


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not everyone is an extremist


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they cannot understand what really matters so they just go under some illusion


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps they can understand too and are in denail


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
who knows


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] Nile#1441
People have different sets of importance and values


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
🍿


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people also have varying levels of intelligence


[24-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
:>


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nile#1441
k


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
morality is not something everyone agrees on the same exact thing


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
weird correlations there


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I wonder why


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
in fact morality is subjective


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
of course


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but we form morality based on like logical reasoning


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nile#1441
I'd rather be where I am now than be a super-intelligent living embodiment of the NPC meme.


[24-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
e.g. killing is bad since it harms our species' survival


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
religion has no point tho, it has no basis in fact


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is kinda just like popularized speculation if anyhting


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
at a time people were like man wouldn't it make sense if a god kinda created everything, using that to answer some of the great mysteries of the universe


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
religion is as old as humanity


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
now with science we know a lot of things better so that speculation is meaningless now


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's propagated as a cult thing


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
like it or not it will always play some role in humanity


[24-Oct-18 10:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it will not


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll be eradicated one day


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I doubt it


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if humanity is to evolve to something more it will get rid of such things


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Nile#1441
When our species goes extinct maybe


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
when the robots take over


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Nile#1441
Religious numbers grow daily.


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lmao


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like they shrink at alarming rates


[24-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the internet is getting people too woke


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
youth indoctrination isn't working as well as it was when they have a mobile repository of human knowledge in their hands


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nile#1441
If you're looking at Western populations sure, but Christianity is growing in Africa and East Asia.


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I mean I left christianity but that doesn't mean I left all religion forever


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Africa is full of savages


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly call those people


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nile#1441
Holy shit


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
religion is big racket scheme. do what we say or you will suffer.


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
ok yeah this is gonna go nowhere


[24-Oct-18 10:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye p much


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
Lemondrop going full Stormfront


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's no surprise that the people in africa are sucked into that so easy


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're like 100 years behind technologically


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
give them another 100 and they might figure it out


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
*facehoofs *


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's an unfortunate thing


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the enviornment is just not good for growth of civilization


[24-Oct-18 10:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not to mention tons of conflict and etc through history preventing it


[24-Oct-18 10:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah anyone who thinks africa is on some equal level with the rest of the world is being a bit too progressive


[24-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
they have issues with poverty but that doesn't make them automatically less human


[24-Oct-18 10:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean less human is a good thing to me in some cases :^)


[24-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not saying they are, but to call Africans savage and say "hardly call those people" is a bit much


[24-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Humans are terrible


[24-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
yeah I agree with Nile


[24-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean if you look at the disgusting things that happen in countries there you might agree


[24-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even more "modern" places just make me wanna die


[24-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like saudi arabia


[24-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Nile#1441
I know what happens in African countries, doesn't mean they're not human.


[24-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
that's just the fact humans are trash


[24-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Just horrible things going on in those places


[24-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean yeah that was mostly said as an insult-ey shitpost sort of thing


[24-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
biologically they're human but you know what I mean


[24-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
civilized might be a better word for it


[24-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nile#1441
I mean you say a lot of things, it's hard to tell what is shitpost and what is genuine.


[24-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everything I say is what I believe


[24-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just the way I say it might be a bit of a joke in some contexts


[24-Oct-18 10:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like am I going to go and personally eliminate every religious person in the world, no probably not


[24-Oct-18 10:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I do think religion needs to be destroyed for humanity to progress, sure


[24-Oct-18 10:45 PM] Nile#1441
Well good luck with that.


[24-Oct-18 10:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not me that'll be doin it


[24-Oct-18 10:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like the AI


[24-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Religion is just one of the many things that manifests itself due to flaws of humans


[24-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It in itself is just a sign of a larger problem


[24-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nile#1441
Again with the AI stuff


[24-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes with the AI stuff


[24-Oct-18 10:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my beliefs of the future are set in reality and likely expectations


[24-Oct-18 10:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think I'll put more stock in an AI superintelligence than Jesus coming back


[24-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nile#1441
AI superintelligence is a meme


[24-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Hardly


[24-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like an eventuality


[24-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we're already going down the path


[24-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI is already being widely researched and developed with impressive results even now


[24-Oct-18 10:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can't even imagine what it's gonna be like in 30 years or so


[24-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nile#1441
Going to be a futuristic dystopia


[24-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
AI is a human construct good luck getting it to function without humans to fix it


[24-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
computers need humans


[24-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[24-Oct-18 10:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that is just a lack of understanding of how AI works


[24-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also perhaps you haven't seen but computers can interact with the physical world too, I know it's hard to imagine but most things like cars and food are constructed almost entirely by machines


[24-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
and self driving cars are too flawed to be safe


[24-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey Christianity does not deserve the most respect religion-wise, it only deserves more than Islam and Judaism.


[24-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[24-Oct-18 10:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're safer than human-driven cars


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not really


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes really


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nile#1441
Galaxy brain


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
every accident with a self driving car has been the fault of a human


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, most modern religions are the ones that, by cutthroat means, pushed themselves to dominance in a region.


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nile#1441
"i-its not the AI's fault, i-it's humans!!!!!"


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
yep


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But targeting religion with the gov't is a problem


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
no it's not


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers are much better at driving cars


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religions are basically large political parties.


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it's hard to imagine


[24-Oct-18 10:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but driving cars is easy


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's 2 lines and you stay between them


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And should be treated as such.


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nile#1441
The car drives itself, no human, gets into an accident.


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nile#1441
Somehow it's the human's fault


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers have been flying rockets to the moon for decades and you think they can't drive a car


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and no


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean the human in the other car


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the one not being driven by a computer


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Flying rokkets is actually much easier than navigating traffic.


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well yeah


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus navigating traffic has humans


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
But with common rules for traffic, most accidents can be avoided with modern technology.


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
self driving cars are hard /because/ of humans


[24-Oct-18 10:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if all the cars were driven by robots there'd be no issues


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nile#1441
lol


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
If most cars drove themselves, we could eliminate traffic lights.


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That will eventually happen.


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd just be like trains


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Religion is likely man made, due to not knowing anything about the natural world


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah the humans are the issue in self driving cars and they are the ones who cause accidents with them


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Studies hav shown superstition arises naturally in humans, even with definite patterns that can be discovered


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
That said if you helps you sleep at night that's fine with me


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nile#1441
I will be glad to legally discriminate towards AI


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
a classic one is the double-key typewriter experiment


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
you giv people a typewriter


[24-Oct-18 10:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
You won't have a chance to


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Just don't force it down my throat


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
every now and then, a key reacts to a press twice


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nile#1441
Too late


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if AI ever reaches human levels of things you'll be dead a little bit later


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
at random


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nile#1441
**AI is gay**


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'll crush AI


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nile#1441
Got 'em


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Or use it to justify being horrible


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people will come up with a belief that some sequence of events causes it


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
AI is man-made


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Despite there being no evidence for such causation.


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
So any flaws are because of man


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[24-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
how many times do I have to say it


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can in the long run make AI that makes AI


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that demonstrates a lack of understanding of how AI works


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
AI is manmade


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ai is not made by man


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it evolves on its own


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Humans designed it


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
who designed humans


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a very narrow idea of "AI"


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
No one


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nile#1441
God :twismug:


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and no one designed AI


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans design the universe AI lives in


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes, at least at first


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could create a very complicated rule structure to create AI


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
at which point it would be manmade


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean yeah


[24-Oct-18 10:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI is a bit broad


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
pacman ghosts are AI and those are 100% human made


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could also instead create self-evolving algorithms, which would hav very little of our influence.


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I'm talking about like neural nets and machine learning


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things which are inherently out of human control


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Machine Learning still bears human design influence


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but not in how it functions


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and artificial neural nets require us to teach them


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans create the universe like I said


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
So those things were just made by themselves


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the AI evolves on its own


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Got it


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a large amount of our influence on any current methods.


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you just don't understand


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't


[24-Oct-18 10:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gotta go now anyways


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
AI can learn and make other ai


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nile#1441
LemonDrop's Rick and Morty 200 IQ is too good for us


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
But who do you think made the first AI?


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
lol lemon is gone


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Lemondrop thinks he's smarter than he is


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, don't even bother


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Alright alright


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
He cherrypikks what he's talking about.


[24-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
In order to suit his twisted worldview.


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
I can see that


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's the kid in a CS class that isn't interested in actually programming


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
but in showing the...humanists or whoever who's boss


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When you write a superior AI for best organization but it only replicates non-Euclidian zoning laws because you gave it books on urban planning from the sixties. 🤔


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
To him, knowledge is a weapon


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
a blunt weapon you use against anyone who doesn't agree with your entire worldview.


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Truth is certainly not his goal.


[24-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nile#1441
When my grandkids are born, I'll teach them to beat up AI robots and shove them in lockers


[24-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Nile, if God made humans


[24-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Who made God?


[24-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
🤔


[24-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Humans from the future, obv


[24-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Checkmate theists


[24-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Nile#1441
:trixdisgust:


[24-Oct-18 11:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/could-you-draw-irelands-border-with-northern-ireland/10155453593501939/

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Could you draw Ireland's border with Northern Ireland?

The border with Northern Ireland has become a major stumbling block in Brexit negotiations, the British public have mixed views on how we...
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[24-Oct-18 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45965605

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Single-use plastics ban backed by Euro MPs
Plastic items such as cutlery and straws would be banned in the EU under plans approved by MEPs.
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[24-Oct-18 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbf the Ireland/Northern Ireland border is a shitty arbitrary line specifically designed to carve out as much as the UK could get away with.


[24-Oct-18 11:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds like every other border.


[24-Oct-18 11:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
ZING


[24-Oct-18 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
Drive the Saxons back into sea


[24-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most borders are formed by two areas trying to get each as much territory as possible and slowly amending it via warfare and treaty


[24-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Nile#1441
Ireland should have stayed in the UK and the problem wouldn't exist

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[24-Oct-18 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
East Anglia and Greater London Anglo Reservation


[24-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[24-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That border in particular is very, very one-sided in how it was created and is basically not open to redrawing.


[24-Oct-18 11:08 PM] DevField#5162
I don't know whether or not we're going to go back to a hard border, after Brexit.


[24-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The people of Ireland do not want a hard border, and there would be violence with one.


[24-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Theresa May has come up with a plan to replace Freedom of Movement which is basically Liberty of Mobility


[24-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the entire point of Brexit


[24-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
she's just gonna replace it with the same thing.


[24-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Brexit was a massive mistake and even the hardline conservatives don't hav workable solutions.


[24-Oct-18 11:10 PM] DevField#5162
Yeah, it's a mess.. :trixdisgust:


[24-Oct-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Battle royale mod on

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[24-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(Ireland is free and united btw)

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[24-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nile#1441
Ireland should be fully 🇬🇧 tbh

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[24-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Too late; Russia took it


[24-Oct-18 11:14 PM] DevField#5162
We're neutral so


[24-Oct-18 11:15 PM] DevField#5162
I wonder if it's just because we couldn't have an actually sizeable army.. 🤔


[24-Oct-18 11:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Irelands navy is a man in a canoe. he rows really fast and carries a gun.

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[24-Oct-18 11:17 PM] soundtea#7559
depends


[24-Oct-18 11:17 PM] soundtea#7559
is it at least a high caliber rifle


[24-Oct-18 11:17 PM] DevField#5162
There was a news story a while back that some Gardaí just dropped an MP7 out of their van by accident


[24-Oct-18 11:18 PM] DevField#5162
Don't think we can handle full-scale warfare


[24-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Arvid#8335
Lemondrop going on about some techno evolution shit again?

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[24-Oct-18 11:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.imgur.com/nKH1sRR.jpg Germany invades the rest of Europe again. Brits try to take over Ireland again.

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Map showing where the most visitors come from for each country
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[24-Oct-18 11:21 PM] DevField#5162
Interesting little map.


[24-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget France still invading the UK after centuries

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[24-Oct-18 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-russia-target-nations-hosting-us-missiles-58719561

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Putin says Russia will target nations hosting US missiles
Russian President Vladimir Putin warned Wednesday that if the United States deploys intermediate-range missiles in Europe, Russia will have to target the nations that would host them. The stern statement follows U.S. President Donald Trump's announcement over the weekend that...
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[24-Oct-18 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
>When the Cold War didn't end so much as get stukk in the mud for decades and somehow the space race became a coop mission where both of you fail together


[24-Oct-18 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great


[24-Oct-18 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>when Francis Fukuyama's "End Of History" books now have appendices


[24-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So how about those mail bombs


[24-Oct-18 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rush limbaugh is calling them "crisis acting" "the democrats are mailing themselves these bombs"


[24-Oct-18 11:59 PM] Nile#1441
Took time for Republicans to catch up after themselves being sent suspicious packages in the mail


[25-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What did they say when Trump Jr. got powder in the mail again


[25-Oct-18 12:17 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
ok but as chaotic as democrats are I can't see them sending bombs to each other


[25-Oct-18 12:19 AM] Nile#1441
Not unless there was one Democrat desperate for attention, but that's a lot of effort to go through


[25-Oct-18 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
going to go back a ways but: "Atheism isn't the outright rejection of to idea" yes it is


[25-Oct-18 12:35 AM] Osha#7800
Ok found it


[25-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Osha#7800
@Nebbie anyway I would consider any assembly where someone runs a car into a crowd worthy of police intervention


[25-Oct-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now that's a riot and/or terrorism.


[25-Oct-18 12:37 AM] Osha#7800
Or the Berkeley """battles""" and other antifa vs nationalists clash


[25-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of those are silly


[25-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
barely anyone even gets hurt


[25-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody brings proper riot weaponry


[25-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Osha#7800
There's video of full fledged brawls in the streets between them all over youtube


[25-Oct-18 12:40 AM] Osha#7800
I think saying something like the most violent it gets is throwing tear gas back is just objectively false


[25-Oct-18 12:41 AM] Osha#7800
Ok


[25-Oct-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've not seen a whole lot that actually gets to outright brawling. There was of course that thing with the square with a guy waving a flagpole around, and that incident with the care, but that's not very common.


[25-Oct-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The stuff with Ferguson didn't seem to hav much violence to it at all, as well.


[25-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a technical note, you're not rioting if you're hit by a car, but you may start a riot by hitting someone with a car.


[25-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/fbi-white-nationalist-robert-paul-rundo-rise-above.html

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F.B.I. Arrests White Nationalist Leader Who Fled the Country for C...
Robert Rundo is the founder of the Rise Above Movement, a violent California neo-Nazi gang. He and three other gang members were accused of inciting riots.
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[25-Oct-18 02:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
It's a gud thing u know me so well nebbit


[25-Oct-18 02:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
me and my life goals


[25-Oct-18 02:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
The irony is I've loved CS long before I had a "twisted worldview"


[25-Oct-18 02:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so your argument is invalid


[25-Oct-18 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
MAGA bomber stuff is full conspiracy mode


[25-Oct-18 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/gd2e6b4zh6u11.png

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[25-Oct-18 02:48 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Oct-18 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
nice meme


[25-Oct-18 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
thank you, I found it in the near future


[25-Oct-18 03:30 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Politicians suck

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[25-Oct-18 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bill Clinton, OTOH, got sucked


[25-Oct-18 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**GOT EEM**


[25-Oct-18 03:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.


[25-Oct-18 03:39 AM] Louder than Love#5467
Hey Monika


[25-Oct-18 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
bill clinton must have had a big cock


[25-Oct-18 03:43 AM] Louder than Love#5467
Nah Hillary drained his life force and it shrunk his peepee


[25-Oct-18 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe he had a big peepee in the 90s


[25-Oct-18 03:46 AM] Louder than Love#5467
Maybe


[25-Oct-18 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/24/660224741/super-typhoon-yutu-strongest-storm-of-2018-slams-u-s-pacific-territory

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Super Typhoon Yutu, 'Strongest Storm Of 2018,' Slams U.S. Pacific ...
Tens of thousands of U.S. citizens in the Northern Mariana Islands got lashed with winds of Category 5 intensity. The storm's vast scale and rapid escalation stunned meteorologists.
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[25-Oct-18 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-packages-targets-factbox/targets-of-suspicious-packages-in-the-united-states-idUSKCN1MZ1VO

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Targets of suspicious packages in the United States
At least 10 suspicious packages have been sent to eight U.S. Democrats, CNN and ...


[25-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps

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China's hidden camps - BBC News
What's happened to the vanished Uighurs of Xinjiang?
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[25-Oct-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
China is sending its Muslim citizens to concentration camps


[25-Oct-18 06:40 PM] ononim#8141
slow byte is slow


[25-Oct-18 06:42 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Internment camp sounds better


[25-Oct-18 07:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Internet camps


[25-Oct-18 07:05 PM] Nile#1441
Nice


[25-Oct-18 07:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] Chinazi


[25-Oct-18 07:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Hans Chinese


[25-Oct-18 08:49 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.vox.com/2017/12/20/16772670/baby-boomers-millennials-congress-debt

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How the baby boomers — not millennials — screwed America
"The boomers inherited a rich, dynamic country and have gradually bankrupted it."
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[25-Oct-18 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Oct-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey Everyime generation warefare stuff comes up I'm going to post this. https://youtu.be/0mix8VuGyno

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Chapo Trap House - Gen X
Episode 250 https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-250-big-dickinson-energy-feat-alena-smith-10118
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[25-Oct-18 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's clearly gen orange's fault


[25-Oct-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Gen Orange, the real identity of the Silent Generation


[25-Oct-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
We still don't know who they are.


[25-Oct-18 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were born int he years xxxx to xxxx


[25-Oct-18 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
For real though the Silent Generation were basically those rare lads born during WW2.


[25-Oct-18 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
So... Roger Waters I guess


[25-Oct-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the silent generation is one guy named roger waters?


[25-Oct-18 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
No, but I'd say he's a good example.


[25-Oct-18 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
If because up until the eighties he wasn't letting go of the fact he was born during the war.


[25-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah but baby boomers are why the country is shit now


[25-Oct-18 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ain't enough Silent Gens


[25-Oct-18 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[25-Oct-18 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Boomers came up in a weird place. The US was actually doing fine and post McCarthy the World War 2 labor truce held which brought a period of long-term labor peace after generations of often open warfare between the bosses and the workers. The result of which was a period of high wages marked by solo US dominance in a bombed-out post-war world which threw into our laps insane economic growth.


[25-Oct-18 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
And from behind the candy store making 200,000$ a year they nuked the unions for the one or two odd shows of resistance to the point they became ineffective and meek.


[25-Oct-18 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then tripped on acid and went to concerts because they were borgie as fuck.


[25-Oct-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also FDR's New Deal had paid off and the US was investing tons of money to rebuild Europe, which soon paid off


[25-Oct-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
All these long term investments meant really good economic growth.


[25-Oct-18 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which was more to do with the US being a sole giant and the source for all demands to be paid for.


[25-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then very slowly it became unpopular to invest in that sort of thing.


[25-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And we basically stopped improving gov't services


[25-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and labor unions slowly lost power


[25-Oct-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and welfare eventually got gutted of course


[25-Oct-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And people wonder now why the lower classes and young hav trouble getting by when there's way, way less money and worker's rights to support them.


[25-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Baby boomers rode a wave of prosperity without perspective on the factors that caused it and then got mad when the next generations actually needed help.


[25-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they're basically stukk in the 50s


[25-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think we can just go bakk there.


[25-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rule #1 of time: you can never go bakk.


[25-Oct-18 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you used up all the 50's there is no more 50's stop trying to use the 50's powered oven


[25-Oct-18 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 50s were great if you were white and middle class and straight and male etc.


[25-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
all this civil rights stuff may seem superfluous


[25-Oct-18 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and liekd buzz cuts and fancy suits everywhere


[25-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
or unrelated, rather


[25-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at the end of the day


[25-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once women hav rights, they can choose not to do le nuclear family model


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when you giv corporations rights like they had in the 50s, but not the mindset of the 50s


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
you end up with corporations doing really scummy things


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and giving the blakks actual jobs etc. may mean less jobs for whites, at least for the short term


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's why you join the IWW


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term, good things happen when inequality is low


[25-Oct-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
but


[25-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody in the Boomers is actually interested in reducing inequality


[25-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they've already "made it"


[25-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The poorer ones among them are dead


[25-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The richer ones survive


[25-Oct-18 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And reducing inequality is a long-term investment they'd hav to pay for.


[25-Oct-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want money now now now now


[25-Oct-18 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them are spoiled brats raising further spoiled brats to be mroe spoiled


[25-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should come as no surprise that a country run by rich old people from a time when it was easy to get rich in their situations do not exactly do much about poverty.


[25-Oct-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we didnt have these thigns when i was your age!" yeah because you didnt need thme you were my age you assfuck


[25-Oct-18 09:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Boomers expected the economy to grow every year


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Mikey#7286
The sooner they're out of the government the better


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can mitch mcconnel die of a heart attakc already?


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately, Bernie will probably die first.


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remembere, these are rich people.


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They liv looooooooong


[25-Oct-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Slightest issue, they head straight for the doctor, don't even look at the bill.


[25-Oct-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[25-Oct-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
part of our political problem is


[25-Oct-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
we hav private healthcare run by greedy corporations that screw the poor


[25-Oct-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that the people who'd actually want to help the poor, as they were poor themselves, die earlier in office etc.


[25-Oct-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich always hav a lifespan advantage, but in America, it's made even worse.


[25-Oct-18 09:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the far right is trying to use the internet they're just a bunch of cringelords


[25-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The alt-right's kind of hilarious.


[25-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's essentially based on hypocrisy


[25-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, laws and in general tools of gov't are seen by it as beneficial when they allow it to spread its beliefs and stop its opponents


[25-Oct-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and detrimental in the reverse direction.


[25-Oct-18 09:32 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yep also there's that stupid picture of spencer in a fedora after getting his intellecutal ass kicked


[25-Oct-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Free speech is very often touted by the alt-right when they want to spread hatred via some debate or a lecture


[25-Oct-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho the 1st amendment says nothing about being allowed to giv a lecture by non-gov't entities


[25-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they *will* try to sue when silenced in this manner, or just drum up support because "wah, that campus' students hate me"


[25-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the first amedment has a principleed aspect to it that authritarian types will happily ignore if it suits them


[25-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, if someone punches a nazi


[25-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's seen as a travesty


[25-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
if someone punches a liberal, it's seen as not a big deal


[25-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because it is in both instances. the radical left started the punching though and progressives aren't liberal


[25-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, it's a smokescreen from criticism.


[25-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
By talking about violence and bombs in the mail and freedoms nobody ever actually had


[25-Oct-18 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can distract from their real agendas, which are unpopular.


[25-Oct-18 09:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what freedoms? the consitution is pretty cut and dry on the principle


[25-Oct-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Freedom of lecturing college students and getting equal debate time


[25-Oct-18 09:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if the colleges are funded by the taxpayer they're organs of the state.


[25-Oct-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not correct


[25-Oct-18 09:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and publicly funded colleges engage in deplatforming which is newspeak for censorship.


[25-Oct-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Colleges often receive mixed funding which givs them some obligations for receiving the gov't part of that funding


[25-Oct-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Colleges hav *never* been under an obligation on who must be allowed to speak on campus.


[25-Oct-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The college can essentially choose whoever it wants.


[25-Oct-18 09:38 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than I say defund all colleges that brazenly violate the first amendment rights of nazis sorry but they're human and have civil liberties like us.


[25-Oct-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, the gov't itself can often chose who can do events speaking at its institutions


[25-Oct-18 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't a violation of freedom of speech to not host an event with someone.


[25-Oct-18 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You do not hav the civil liberty to be provided with a taxpayer-funded soapbox, essentially.


[25-Oct-18 09:39 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's against the principle though the legalisc reading is often a sheild by censorious people to obfuscate what they're doing


[25-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't can't step in and pull someone else's soapbox out from under you because they disagree with your message, but they aren't required to provide it in the first place.


[25-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not against the principle.


[25-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yes it is.


[25-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The principle is to not be using laws to target people based on their political views


[25-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The principle is not that everyone should be handed a soapbox.


[25-Oct-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally


[25-Oct-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
many regulations are in place to prevent handing out soapboxes to begin with.


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the state at least in america is supposed to ensure our rights. I argue that they absolutly have an obligation to platform any citizen that asks for it.


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's ridiculous, it'd be a huge waste of money and everyone's time.


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't just a left/right debate going on at large


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
if that is a right everyone has


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you hav to platform people that say that pedophilia should be legal


[25-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
that say that 9/11 was an inside job


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
absolutly


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that say we should all mutilate ourselves for some deity


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's a problem how


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you hav to giv these people equal platforms, remember


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's called free speech because it's free


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to start scheduling time on TV


[25-Oct-18 09:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
for everybody even people you don't like


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You would end up with a nonstop broadcast of idiots on soapboxes


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
wasting tons of money


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
and say the alt right spends more money to get a bigger soapbox


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you say that as if tv isn't already that.


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
this must be matched by everyone, correct?


[25-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
We now hav to giv the man arguing that we should kill babies an equal platform


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav to giv him radio time


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
tv time


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
tons of youtube videos


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're assuming the acctual alt right and not liberarians slandered has convinving arguments


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
This inevitably leads to insanity


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not possible to provide equal time to every view or side.


[25-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we live in a repressed society for free speech and insanity is on an upswing I think the exact opposite is true


[25-Oct-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're not "repressed".


[25-Oct-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political speech is pretty much as loose as it has ever been.


[25-Oct-18 09:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do I have to go through the laundry list of conservatives banned from twitter.


[25-Oct-18 09:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the bullshit the internet infastracture has put andrew torba through.


[25-Oct-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe they should band together with their huge amount of money and actually create a proper political platform


[25-Oct-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of the shit that is twitter.


[25-Oct-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, twitter may become at a point so essential that to be banned from it is like a banishment from political discourse, but that's a very messy matter.


[25-Oct-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And not at all what freedom of speech was intended to deal with.


[25-Oct-18 09:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they did it's called gab and they're still being repressed by the other infrastrcture of the internet.


[25-Oct-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not let corporations become gov'ts.


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we're already there mate and court precedent is trending towards twitter being a public platform that falls under the scope of the constitiution.


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We live in a society


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
even though the ruling is illogical.


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Corporations already in control of US gov.


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bottom text


[25-Oct-18 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let the wobblies become the government


[25-Oct-18 09:50 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I just came from gab where the lolicon debate came front and center.


[25-Oct-18 09:50 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
sorry it's on my mind.


[25-Oct-18 09:51 PM] Nile#1441
wut


[25-Oct-18 09:51 PM] Nile#1441
Why are they talking about lolicon on Gab


[25-Oct-18 09:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[25-Oct-18 09:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they opted for banning it there even though it's clearly consitiutionaly protected speech ashcroft vs freespeechcoalition look it up.


[25-Oct-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
LEL


[25-Oct-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
>create platform because you're being "suppressed"


[25-Oct-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
>immediately suppress speech you don't like


[25-Oct-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[25-Oct-18 09:52 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it took years for this issue to come up.


[25-Oct-18 09:53 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we keep telling torba this but he won't listen because he fears reprisals from an unconstitiounal law. also he mad an ass of himself defending himself at least ottman came accross as more reasonable when the same thing came up on minds.


[25-Oct-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The specific law on lolicon requires it be obscene to be illegal


[25-Oct-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is stupidly void for vagueness and unconstitutional, but that aside


[25-Oct-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically in order to be obscene it has to be 1) Pornographic 2) Not valuable in any other way (including artistic) and 3) Beyond the community's acceptability in whatever jurisdiction it's challenged in.


[25-Oct-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and *any* porn that fits these criteria is illegal to send across the internet


[25-Oct-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of a law against sending obscenity across state lines.


[25-Oct-18 09:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Its all illegal then. Vague laws are there to get rid of people you don't like.


[25-Oct-18 09:57 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ferber standard requires a victem


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not applicable


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
still ashcroft vs freespeech coalition basicly struck down the previous anti lolicon laws.


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's CP law


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
not loli law


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
the two are different in the US.


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the new law is just as unconstituional as the last one because of ashcroft


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That strukk down the non-obscenity-based law


[25-Oct-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS usually considers obscenity tests valid.


[25-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho they're massive BS


[25-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
especially now that precedent means you can get stuff taken down by challenging in *any* jurisdiction.


[25-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, they're afraid to take down obscenity because then Anthony Weiner's conduct etc. would be legal


[25-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is a nightmare for the establishment.


[25-Oct-18 10:00 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's because they haven't had a challenge to the miller case. if you ask me obscenity is the grandfather of hate speech and someday the millier standard might get overturned.


[25-Oct-18 10:05 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I do better in logic based argument rather than legalistic arguments.


[25-Oct-18 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
you have a right to say what you want


[25-Oct-18 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't have a right to be heard by everyone


[25-Oct-18 10:56 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/OURy5WFp0zk

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[25-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck this stupid wall ad


[25-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not going to work!


[25-Oct-18 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
>Linking PragerU


[25-Oct-18 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
>Expecting me to take any conclusion it draws seriously


[25-Oct-18 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Inconvenient Truth is that the Republicans have drifted far away from who they were, the party that Marx wrote for. Ironically enough as it is

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[25-Oct-18 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someone needs to make it REVOLUTIONARY again.


[25-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
>say a bunch of stuff from times when Republicans were an entirely different party to defend the current party


[25-Oct-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republicans were all game for equality when that meant northern interests and more voters for business interests against southern farmers/slaveowners


[25-Oct-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly Democrats became the party of farmers, minorities, and women and the game changed


[25-Oct-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sweet sweet racist southerners perfectly aligned with business interests were too good to pass up.


[25-Oct-18 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, if you completely change your party platform, eventually different people vote for you.


[26-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjjME3oYbps

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[26-Oct-18 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yanny vs laural?


[26-Oct-18 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right is obsessed with scrubbing the Southern Strategy from history


[26-Oct-18 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like they were with scrubbing the Civil War being about slavery from it


[26-Oct-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
dems are the real racism supporters. remember the crookshank desicion and who backed that.


[26-Oct-18 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
That was 1876. I hate to defend them but the party shifted. Both did, substantially too.


[26-Oct-18 01:48 AM] ononim#8141
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[26-Oct-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
oh gods why


[26-Oct-18 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
maoist revolution in the US soon, comrades.

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[26-Oct-18 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm early voting tomorrow i hope it goes well


[26-Oct-18 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364525904669442049/505137950414077991/unknown.png just found a thing

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[26-Oct-18 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMYrX2Z-8Ec

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[26-Oct-18 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
so what happens


[26-Oct-18 02:41 PM] byte[]#2610
don't clickbait me


[26-Oct-18 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not clickbait


[26-Oct-18 04:06 PM] Louder than Love#5467
2 nukes wasn’t enough


[26-Oct-18 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[26-Oct-18 04:07 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Japan should’ve been nuked three times


[26-Oct-18 04:07 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Oof

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[26-Oct-18 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
what happens, then


[26-Oct-18 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the video explains it better thna i can


[26-Oct-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You basically end up stateless


[26-Oct-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
so like


[26-Oct-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico requires you hav no other citizenship to get Mexican citizenship


[26-Oct-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it works correctly with the US' renouncement


[26-Oct-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's stupid.


[26-Oct-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be that Mexico givs you some provisional citizenship and then you hav to giv up others, so it can be a proper transactional thing


[26-Oct-18 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately every country has a slightly different idea of how citizenship works and these inconsistencies are pointless BS


[26-Oct-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, let's just blatantly ignore international law I guess https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-may-halt-entry-nearly-all-migrants-seeking-asylum-southern-n924661

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[26-Oct-18 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Not like Trump has ever followed the law


[26-Oct-18 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
If he did, it was accidental


[26-Oct-18 05:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
law is meme


[26-Oct-18 05:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah I mean we can't just give every person in mexico asylum lol


[26-Oct-18 05:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they gotta fix their own country


[26-Oct-18 05:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
fleeing to merica is just gonna keep their country in the state it's in


[26-Oct-18 05:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Last I checked canada doesn't have problems with a bunch of americans fleeing to avoid the shit conditions of this country


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Wonder why


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Because we didn't fuck up canada


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
We definitely fucked up mexico though


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
u read that wrong


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the point is that America is GUD and so is Canada


[26-Oct-18 05:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so no border problems in either direction there


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
mexico is garbo tho and people wanna gtfo, can't blame them


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that just keeps the problems


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
It's better than mexico yes


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
might as well jsut annex Mexico at this rate


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are people from Honduras you idiot


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay well what do you want them to do


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
same difference


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Live in a literal hellhole


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're going thru Mexico


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"south of america"


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
For the rest of their lives


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, not same difference.


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are fleeing gang violence.


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so are the mexicans lol


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras has gone to shit far worse than Mexico


[26-Oct-18 05:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Probably


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean it's like what do they expect


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is obligatory under international law to provide asylum for those fleeing violence.


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
We can't just take the entire world in


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the entire world is shit


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everyone wants to come here


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just say no "because"


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
The entire world isn't fleeing gang violence


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but they'll make our country shit in the process


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Nor does the rest of the world want to come here


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We actually hav very low population density in our western areas


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
No they won't


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
we can accomodate *millions* more.


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Low population density is good


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
do you think we need to be like india


[26-Oct-18 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Have you even read the impact of immigration on local economics


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a huge boon


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"we can fit a few more billion in the US"


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yeah no lol


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
India's problems aren't from density, they're from very poor business practices


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a lot of that western desolate wasteland is crops too btw


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe has much higher population density than us


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
anything that isn't crops is mountians


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's doing quite, quite fine


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe also has tons of crops and mountains


[26-Oct-18 05:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Unless you plan to just destroy many square miles of crops to make houses for these people I'd say we have a fine population


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it turns out ya can fit a lot of people in cities if you build them right.


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
these people  will eb going to already crowded cities and make things worse


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no lol


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we shouldn't be trying to fit 100,000,00 people in a city


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just not a good plan


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it can be done I'm sure but there's just no point


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's already too many people on the planet


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
you moved the goalposts again


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's more people than would ever come via migration in a century


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Perhaps but again, things are already crowded


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's no more room


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The solution to overpopulation isn't to let gang violence kill Hondurans


[26-Oct-18 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's plenty of room


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I disagree


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The argument the US is full is absolute nonsense


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
full to me


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your goalposts are absurd.


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am already not happy with how many people are here lmao


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
On purpose, so that you can justify refusing people.


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, too bad.


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everyone thinks that


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's just like no


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am consistent in what I say


[26-Oct-18 05:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just no one agrees with me :>


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
You're consistently ignorant and misinformed


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
That's for sure


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I cannot be misinformed about preference


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I say the US is overpopulated so it is


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing that's consistent is that you say humans are bad and you reject helping them.


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mold everything else to fit this narrative


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I wouldn't help me if I was from a shitty place like that


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
creating untruths, warped/twisted viewpoints, etc. to satisfy it.


[26-Oct-18 05:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not our job to do that


[26-Oct-18 06:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
We've already meddled in other countries enough, which of course you blame for them being so shit (it's not the reason)


[26-Oct-18 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually the 40s called and


[26-Oct-18 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
turns out it literally is our job to help refugees


[26-Oct-18 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an actual obligation we hav


[26-Oct-18 06:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
In a war or conflict of large scale sure


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but not with something like a country's internal affairs


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, but continue appealing to some sense of what our true obligations are


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think providing support is fine


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like you know, getting food to people


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just only the parts that support your views etc.


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but not letting them into our country "just cus"


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're fleeing conflict.


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
of their own creation


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not an international war


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just internal shitfuckery


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Civil wars count too.


[26-Oct-18 06:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just draw arbitrary lines over things like this


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
star trek would disagree


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
you aren't creating meaningful distinctions.


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
call it an internal affair :>


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you aren't revoking the duties under international law doing so.


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can draw all the arbitrary lines I want


[26-Oct-18 06:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because there's already plenty


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
where's the line between what we do and don't help right now


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, essentially, moving the goalposts in a nutshell.


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You draw ever more arbitrary lines to defend your point.


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hint: it's arbitrary


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are meaningful reasons to help people fleeing violence.


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primary one being them returning is a death sentence.


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Of course, but it's going to only propagate the issue


[26-Oct-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fleeing other problems does not generally work like that.


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they need to un-fuck their own country's problems


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not just flee it


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a civil war anyways I could see being more justified in helping since it is an active process of un-fucking


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
They cannot just wave a magic wand and fix their situation


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's dangerous to pick sides which is why I don't think one should do it


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
since it's just the same country


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should be intervening.


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they can


[26-Oct-18 06:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we did it lol


[26-Oct-18 06:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
magic wand and a few million people dead


[26-Oct-18 06:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
civil war changed the problems people had with society


[26-Oct-18 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, that would *increase* the refugees coming here...


[26-Oct-18 06:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
then just say no go fight your war


[26-Oct-18 06:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the US isn't just a safe zone you can flee to when times get rough


[26-Oct-18 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
People should hav safe zones free of conflict, otherwise they are effectively forced to fight on either side.


[26-Oct-18 06:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's the idea


[26-Oct-18 06:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that is how the conflict is resolved


[26-Oct-18 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to kill people.


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your entire ideology here is we should make sure the Hondurans die.


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you are a misanthrope


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's their own fault, they want to kill people in fact


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
you believe that they should be forced to fight, that they should fight, and that they should die


[26-Oct-18 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
to alleviate overpopulation.


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not really as a desired outcome


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just think that they caused their own issues


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, as your desired outcome.


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav made it clear repeatedly you want humans to die.


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean it's desired as in it'd be best to have fewer people on the planet


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because we are imperfect.


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd prefer that'd just happen by less breeding tho


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I mean I don't want them to /die/


[26-Oct-18 06:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just want something to replace them


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that will prob involve death but that's not my doing


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just killing everyone won't get us to where we're going


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you want to be able to keep your hands clean as the blood flies. How *noble* of you.


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] DevField#5162
and where are we going, exactly?


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
to the glorious land of AI


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans gotta be around to create that


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] DevField#5162
So you want AI to take over?


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[26-Oct-18 06:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I've accepted that AI will


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
He sees The Terminator as a movie with a bad ending.


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically.


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I've never seen that movie funny enough


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know enough tho that it's just a big meme


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] DevField#5162
I still have faith un humanity. A small pocket of it.


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] DevField#5162
*in


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people think AI is gonna be like terminator robots and humans will be able to fight the good fight and resist


[26-Oct-18 06:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's more like it'll become so smart and just create some simple weapon to eradicate everyone if needed


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are surprisingly fragile


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
AI rebellions with near-future tech would be doomed to fail


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
nukes create EMPs


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can sheild against emps


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not that hard


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robots need tons of human-maintained infrastructure


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is that hard


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
faraday cage does the job just fine


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'd need to do it on a colossal scale


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
faraday cages aren't 100%


[26-Oct-18 06:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we already do


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
a powerful EMP can overwhelm a small faraday cage quite easily


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all of the Cheyenne mountain complex is emp sheilded


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not enuff to control the country from.


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if they can do it for an entire millitary base we can do it for a robot supercomputer


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's under layers of rokk


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] DevField#5162
I'm not sure that human beings will ever be able to replicate the complexity of the human mind really, in any way that AI would be able to sustain itself indefinitely if human beings did die out


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
One robot supercomputer with no worker drones is nothing.


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what you think


[26-Oct-18 06:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but no it's the intelligence which matters


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
something 1000x smarter than humans even if it's just a single computer will be able to devise something incredibly clever to kill everyone regardless


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
would only need some basic interaction with the environment


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not an army of mindless drone robot soldiers lol


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need a biological weapon and a robots creating robots production chain


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
that would take many years to set up


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people would notice


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like just nanobots would be more realistic


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and you'd think that


[26-Oct-18 06:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's also 1000x smater than any human


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, I don't think nanobots are realistic


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and growing at an exponential rate


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
we hav these things called cells


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you cannot understand how fast it'd overtake our expectations


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
they do essentially what nanobots do


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus humans suck at predicting that sort of growth


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they don't need metal and electricity to do it


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you're right they just need incredibly ineffecient biological processes


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I forgot


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, I think most artificial solutions will be biological


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biology is actually pretty efficient


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
10 billion chemical compounds per cell and weird energy in forms of ATP and friends


[26-Oct-18 06:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's not designed


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you can design biology


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
biology is clobbered together over billions of years


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it works well for what it is but the base design is flawed


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we're stuck in like all these local maximas whereas robots will be able to attain a much higher one


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not to mention that they're much more modular than humans


[26-Oct-18 06:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
robots can easily redesign themselves or make new tech to upgrade how they work


[26-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans cannot which is why we're so stuck where we are despite having a smart mind


[26-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
billions of years of random optimization is hard to understand


[26-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's no order to it


[26-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in essence the mind of an AI will be just as mysterious


[26-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but the thing is the mind and body are detached from eachother in the case of such a thing


[26-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
an AI's body is just a lot of rather simplisitic electronics all following a uniform design


[26-Oct-18 06:17 PM] DevField#5162
What about transhumanism? Not like I've looked into it much.. but the advancement of human form due to technology could be a possible way for human beings to continue thriving. Probably also with the erasure of sex distinguishment...


[26-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just a collection of transistors which in themselves are very simple conceptually


[26-Oct-18 06:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and if the AI can find a new thing to improve what a transistor does then it can make itself better in a very simple way


[26-Oct-18 06:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers have been the same all through time, we just make better ways of doing those simple tasks


[26-Oct-18 06:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that is just mathematically shown with a Turing machine if anything


[26-Oct-18 06:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all you need is memory and some way to do operations on it, not this hugely complex biological organism with a billion functions in it just to stay alive


[26-Oct-18 06:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
math shows that computers are indeed like the simplest way to represent anything like that which is good because it shows that indeed humans are shit for not being really designed with that specific purpose in mind


[26-Oct-18 06:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
tho we accomplish it all the same just in a very complex way


[26-Oct-18 06:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
complexity is bad for the most part too as most know, less is more as they say


[26-Oct-18 06:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and humans are def complexity for the sake of complexity


[26-Oct-18 06:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even something simple like how we intake energy should show this


[26-Oct-18 06:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers and other electronics just take in pure energy, even plants know better to actually be able to do that


[26-Oct-18 06:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but biology couldn't rely on animals doing that since there was no method of power generation and to get high levels of energy consumption of other things was required


[26-Oct-18 06:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
looking at it now it's a very stupid way to go about things but that's kinda just what had to happen to get to this point


[26-Oct-18 06:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we shouldn't praise that fact tho and try to expect all our computers to have such kind of energy intake because we can design them much better now


[26-Oct-18 06:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we know a single piece of plutonium in a RTG can generate enough to even power something as poorly designed as the human body so why would you even need anything else lol


[26-Oct-18 06:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Anyways I don't need to debate it, like I said I've just accepted it


[26-Oct-18 06:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not like a what if but more of a "when", so I'll just be waiting while everyone else is freaking out


[26-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
Uhm, I'm sorry to talk about games on a platform dedicated to gamers


[26-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
But it seems that after years of carelessness, Paradox realized that the Byzantine government is not feudal but, well, byzantine. And completely redesigned its government system for the next DLC.


[26-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
Now the bureaucracy will have the power to influence the selection of an heir. I'm really curious about how CK2 will look like after this massive rework. @AaronMk


[26-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
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[26-Oct-18 06:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
dedicated to gamers lol


[26-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No wonder it's so bad


[26-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh shut up lemon

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[26-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
:>


[26-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>lemon dennouncing humanity "eh no biggie"


[26-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>lemon shitting on my fav chat platform "ok that's it"

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[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
M8


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Shut the FUCK up about how bad you think discord is


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ur priorities are weird


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
It


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Shut


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Stop


[26-Oct-18 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Never talk about it again


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I never will and you know it


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Somewhere I'll always be saying how garbage it is


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hope u have nightmares about that


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Say it somewhere that isn't here


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do


[26-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I do it here sometimes too


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Well don't


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
telling me to shut up isn't a very good argument either


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Perhaps you could say why you like discord so much lol


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah but banning you is lol


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
im mikey lol ban u for not liking discord lol


[26-Oct-18 07:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Gee it's no wonder why you were muted


[26-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Would have to ask byte about that


[26-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
according to him I'm bad at arguing or something :>


[26-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is another way of saying good


[26-Oct-18 07:11 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd take his word sooner than I would yours


[26-Oct-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Could ask pretty much anyone that's seen you argue on that one, bud.


[26-Oct-18 07:12 PM] Mikey#7286
Mhm


[26-Oct-18 07:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just find it funny that you get so upsetti about that one topic in paticular


[26-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and like you can flex ur dank mod powers to get me to not speak my mind


[26-Oct-18 07:13 PM] Mikey#7286
It's any topic that you go on about being bad that everyone uses


[26-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
better add "don't criticize discord" to the site rules


[26-Oct-18 07:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Why do you feel the need to remind us discord is bad once a week?


[26-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Why not


[26-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey how about you shut the fuck up, eh?


[26-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
You can't argue for shit


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
At least you know when to stop


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Unlike Lemon


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Stopping is for the weak :^)


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Well sorry


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Mikey#7286
I admit I can't argue


[26-Oct-18 07:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Lemon can't


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
2 good 4 u


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] Mikey#7286
I said you can't admit it


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't need to


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for that would be a lie


[26-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I'm not a liar :>


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Your goalposts move faster than wind through a turbofan engine


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
You cannot argue


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
u just can't keep up


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not arguing


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Whatever ya say


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
That's continuous deflection aka moving the goalposts


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I make no attempt  to do this action you say


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I simply build on things


[26-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everything is all related down to the base point


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
No you don't, you just try to move the discussion entirely


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
See, you're wrong


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
When you argue you take a SINGLE POINT and present evidence for it and then draw a conclusion on it


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because I don't try to do anything of the sort


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
You do it all the time


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
You're doing it now, even


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
You just can't see the complexities of things


[26-Oct-18 07:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
nothing is just a single point


[26-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everything has just infinite layers of supporting arguments


[26-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't just go off on random tangents, everything I argue is to support something previously stated because people just say no to everything I say lol


[26-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like I have to proove everything from the ground up to convince people


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Have you ever considered that when people disagree with you they are pointing out weaknesses and/or glaring flaws in your points


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Because they are


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
They just don't understand


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Not my fault lol


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so they require further convincing


[26-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Furthermore there is only finitely much time we can give to a point and we generally draw conclusions based on the best accepted explanation


[26-Oct-18 07:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
When someone disagrees that discord is bad I can only assume they do not know the full picture


[26-Oct-18 07:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that or they should be prepared to defend every part of it


[26-Oct-18 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
The argument "Discord is not bad" has weaknesses on a number of standpoints


[26-Oct-18 07:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
to someone like you maybe


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but plenty of people can't see that lol


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
It would be better framed as "Discord has latent malicious potential, but represents a functional improvement over existing services"


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
@LemonDrop how can you manage to be such a dumb cunt jesus


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Depends what you mean by dumb


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
first thing first


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
"overpopulation" is not an subject opinion


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
o you're talkin about that


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lmao


[26-Oct-18 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
"I don't like many human" is]


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
Not the "overpopulation


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
Secon


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
both are the same


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's disadvantages to our current population level as of now even


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
No they are not you dumb fuckl


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
Second


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
overpopulation is a meme


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Not population level


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we starve the planet for resources because humans just need a lot to exist


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Population density


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
create by malthusian porly to feed imbecile cunts like you


[26-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this many people is an overpopulation issue


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] ononim#8141
No it's not you blind to you wn biases cunt


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
We destroy the planet to maintain this population level


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you think that's fine then sure but I don't


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] ononim#8141
Absolute minority of population drines absolute majority of resources


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in time technology will get better so we don't destroy as hard to do such things


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but right now we're overpopulated


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
We destroy it to maintain it at the comfort level of a select few


[26-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people cry when they can't eat meat for example


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but meat is just destroying the planet


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
0.001% of the population consumes 20% of the planet's energy resources


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if no one ate meat we'd have a much better population potential


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are naturally selfish creatures


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
That is staggeringly disproportionate


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they only care about themselves and what they shoudl do to feel happy


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and eating what they want is just another example of that which destroys us


[26-Oct-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Lemon, respond to my point


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] ononim#8141
nigga do you even know meat consumption rates drpending by country


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean I am sure it's true


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am not saying that's not a problem


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a lot of people use way too many resources for their own selfish needs


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but the other 80% still is a thing


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] ononim#8141
how the fuck you can be so blind to your own biases and yet flint as unknowing fucking expert


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] ononim#8141
jesus


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
You are arguing that because a select few use too much that the usage of everyone else is unsustainable


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly


[26-Oct-18 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Which is not true


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you got rid of those people you'd still have the 80%


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it'd still be a problem


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
20% is not killing our planet


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also it depends on what you mean by consume


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like for example we spend a ton of resources making something like a rocket


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
If you got rid of the 20% you'd have much fairer redistribution of the rest and corresponding population density changes


[26-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
only a few people are involved in that but it's for science and progress


[26-Oct-18 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Which will actually decrease energy consumption on the whole


[26-Oct-18 07:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the real issue is the masses and their bad habits due to their nature


[26-Oct-18 07:29 PM] ononim#8141
How can you feet som uch boot inside your mout jesus


[26-Oct-18 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
It's Zipfian


[26-Oct-18 07:29 PM] ononim#8141
Upper class will not love you no matter how much you shit on proles


[26-Oct-18 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
see e.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Zipf_distribution_CMF.png/1280px-Zipf_distribution_CMF.png

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[26-Oct-18 07:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps but I still think the majority of the problems is 2 things


[26-Oct-18 07:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
firstly humans are naturally evil, this is true


[26-Oct-18 07:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and with that, more people = more problems


[26-Oct-18 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
With 0.001->0.2 you're talking about an s≥4 situation


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so fewer people  will be better to a degree


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
>firstly humans are naturally evil, this is true


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we still need enough people to progress but yeah needs to be sustainable


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
galaxy brain


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
>we need fewer people


[26-Oct-18 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
>against elevation of improvished population with results in decreasing birth rates anyway


[26-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the issue could also be put into like terms of who the people are


[26-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I think people should reproduce less because we are beyond the threshold needed to ensure the survival of the species


[26-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
But Earth isn't quite overpopulated yet


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
smarter people would not be as wasteful of resources for no real point but it's hard to say since you still need a bunch of lower level working class people to do all the things in life to let people specialize


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
It's these regions of localized overpopulation


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Also smart people don't reproduce


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
This is a well-observed fact


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's one big problem


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
smart people know they're contributing to overpopulation so they don't


[26-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so you end up with all the retards who breed like mad due to lack of impulse control propagating things


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Or they live in overpopulated areas


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
So they feel no compulsion to


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just unfortunate


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if fewer people just bred like crazy they might feel more compelled to carry on their genetics


[26-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or you know, just fewer people in general


[26-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also decreasing birth rates might be a thing in general but population is still on the rise


[26-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if it was proper we'd be at equilibrium


[26-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
currently we're on an unsustainable path, something needs to change


[26-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
https://lemon.horse/share/chrome_2018-10-26_10-38-02.png

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[26-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think you can see where the problem lies too


[26-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Look at the derivative graph


[26-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or just look at this graph


[26-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
use your galaxy brain to calculate the derivative


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
china's is def slowing but as I recall that's because they have policies in that


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
India tho is just like xd still


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
They removed them


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
weird


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
They needed people to start having kids again


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] DevField#5162
There is gonna be change. I believe that things are gonna go the way of Japan, like with the herbivore men. Most guys are going to reject relations with women, and then, good old societal collapse, due to not being able to sustain a native population.


[26-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"needed"


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Unfortunately nobody wants to fuck in China anymore


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes, needed


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
A lot of economic models pretty much depend on continuous population growth


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yeah shitty ones


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
If it's not there or it slows down the economy contracts


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
That is not a need


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's a want


[26-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
need would be for sustaining population


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like o no we're gonna be extinct in 20 years if we dun start having kids


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] DevField#5162
I personally believe in this... but what does it solve? guys are just going to be tasked with rebuilding society again and the cycle will continue anew. Is this just the cycle society goes through every few hundred years?


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] ononim#8141
China reversed its policies because it needed to sustain the population


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
When I say that china needed to do something


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it has 1 billion+ people


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they don't need shit


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
It means that the leaders dictated it


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
maybe a lot of them are old and etc so they're taking that into account


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] ononim#8141
because nobody had girls anymore because veryone wants to have a boyt to inhreit the buisness et c


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Not that I actually think they needed it


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah I can see that at least


[26-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but population is usually smooth


[26-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus generations usually overlap eachother on the day by day basis


[26-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
except in cases of spikes


[26-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so maybe that spike starting in the 50s is what they're worried about


[26-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all those people gonna die at once and drop them back down pretty far


[26-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
either way they have too many people lol, fuck their economy


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
They have seriously disproportionate population density


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
So does India


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
can you guess which two countries are the most polluted on the planet


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
[china and india]


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I wonder why


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
And Trump's "shithole countries"


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps it's because having 1 billion people in a tiny area is just filthy and unsustainable


[26-Oct-18 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
India is doing a lot of effort to fight against climate change tho


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gl with that india


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nile#1441
They're not polluted just because they have so many people


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
try to get your people toilets first


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
then worry about climate change


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nile#1441
A lot of them shit in the streets


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it has been ranked quite highly in indexes for efforts against climate change


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're just a gross country


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
need to get their shit together


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
muh /pol/ meme


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Efforts don't always correspond to reality


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>meme


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not a meme


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's actually disgusting there


[26-Oct-18 07:45 PM] Nile#1441
Is it a "meme" if it's actually a problem in India


[26-Oct-18 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>tfw nobody cares about India's sizeable middle class


[26-Oct-18 07:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yeah I'm sure they live in gold palaces and own many slaves


[26-Oct-18 07:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
good for them


[26-Oct-18 07:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
still doesn't change the fact that people regularly shit in the streets there


[26-Oct-18 07:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that doesn't happen here because we figured out sanitation about 300 years ago


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] Nile#1441
There's a reason Unicef India made "Poo2Loo


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/files/publication/13626.pdf


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they say India is climbing, mostly


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
climbing in what lol


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's not perfect, sure, but it's an effort


[26-Oct-18 07:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah I've never been to india, a lot of the stuff I am sure is exaggerated


[26-Oct-18 07:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I have seen some videos of like india from a neutral perspective


[26-Oct-18 07:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```    India climbed 6 ranks this year up to 25. The country
performs second best in emissions level but ranks 59th
in emissions development. Regarding renewables and efficiency,
India’s scores improved slightly. National experts
value a shift of investments from coal to the renewables
sector, including a massive expansion of solar energy.
India plans to use non-fossil fuel sources for 40% of installed
power capacity by 2030 and so improved its score
in the policy ranking. ```


[26-Oct-18 07:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's just bizzare


[26-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPne-q4ynts> this one specifically was showed to me a bit ago


[26-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just some vlog from a guy riding a motorcycle through the country but it's just crazy


[26-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
should watch it


[26-Oct-18 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
India does indeed have its issues with overcrowding, but we mustn't take it at face value and believe every train that runs in India is like those overcrowded ones we see in memes


[26-Oct-18 07:54 PM] ononim#8141
Man these Indians living in perpetual extreme povetry because of their cranium having wrong shape and having to many people and definitely not anything to do with oppressive caste system perpetuated by upper Brahmin caste and Hindutva nationalits /s


[26-Oct-18 07:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Hey hey u know what the problem is


[26-Oct-18 07:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
[overpopulation]


[26-Oct-18 07:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
maybe if they had a billion less people there wouldn't be as much poverty


[26-Oct-18 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
I will surprise you


[26-Oct-18 07:58 PM] Arvid#8335
Actually the problem is an overabundance of resources


[26-Oct-18 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
But povetry existed even wehn there was less than billion people world wide


[26-Oct-18 07:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Indeed


[26-Oct-18 07:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
But it gets amplified when there's too many people for a space to support


[26-Oct-18 07:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just try to fit a billion people in one city and see what happens


[26-Oct-18 07:59 PM] Arvid#8335
There's more than enough recourses for everyone but not everyone is getting them because capitalism basically.


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol no


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
capitalism only works because things are not abundant


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there is supply and demand


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
except things are abundant


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
really now


[26-Oct-18 08:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
do you just pick desktop computers off of trees in your hometown


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
price isn't always defined by scarcity


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it usually is


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
diamonds, for example


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
refined diamonds take effort


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
normal diamonds are quite cheap


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
every good saw and grinder will be covered in diamond grounds and shit


[26-Oct-18 08:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or like industrual drillbits


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you're p much paying to have it cut to perfection


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we often believe they're rare, and expensive, among other refined qualities, when, in fact, diamonds are actually quite abundand, it is practically only the DeBeers monopoly that makes them so expensive


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] ononim#8141
diamonds are only luxury product because one company has almost full monopoly and it conducted agresive marketing of diamonds in the past


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i think you're forgetting one thing, monopolies


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm sure there's a bit of that


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but you can't apply that to everything


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like again desktop computers are not expensive because muh monopolies


[26-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like because it's just expensive to assemble those resources


[26-Oct-18 08:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they use a lot of uncommon things too like gold


[26-Oct-18 08:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or lithium


[26-Oct-18 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
except there aren't only monopolies, there are also oligopolies, trusts, cartels, among a lot of other stuff


[26-Oct-18 08:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not things you can just pick up off the ground


[26-Oct-18 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we do have anti-trust laws, but these don't always work 100%, and are gamed quite easily


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a lot of the value of diamonds is just abitrary too because people like them that way


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
synthetic diamonds are the same as the cut ones but just not worth as much due to that


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're too perfect


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people want that human touch to their construction or whatever


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, that sure explains how "rational" capitalist thinking is, amirite


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's supply and demand


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's demand for just the right amount of imperfection and human construction of some gem


[26-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so they cost a lot


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if no one cared diamonds wouldn't be worth dick other than their industrual use


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and how is that not irrational?


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in which case we'd just be using synthetic ones anyways


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's the consumers who are irrational


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's not the system's fault


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
>he doesn't know about DeBeers coampaign to shill diamonds and mud the artificial version


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
wow


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
except the consumers are shaped by the system


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't know much about diamonds no


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
LD not knowing shit but still talking as if he does


[26-Oct-18 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
colour me surprised


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know enough to say that the synthetic ones are not as expensive


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they're perfect


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the system is way less spontaneous than people think


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and all the value on non synthetic ones is arbitary


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
well at least you know something


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm sure plenty of people do things to support that mentality


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
have a gold star I guess


[26-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yay


[26-Oct-18 08:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I should make a collection of the gold stars I get from people online


[26-Oct-18 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
Also


[26-Oct-18 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
@Deleted User HOLY FUCK FINALLY


[26-Oct-18 08:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Deleted User Which reminds me, I need to reopen my current game. Making Italy Sunni/Ibadi right now.


[26-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
seems like a p cool game


[26-Oct-18 08:18 PM] ononim#8141
YOu can do eugenics with it so I feel you efficent fetish will be pleased with it


[26-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this pleases the lemon


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] ononim#8141
>pleases


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] ononim#8141
BEEP BOOP


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] ononim#8141
EMOTION DETECTED


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
o shit


[26-Oct-18 08:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean uhh yeah fuk that emotions don't exist


[26-Oct-18 08:31 PM] soundtea#7559
also yeah, DeBeers artifically controls the supply and runs PR campaigns just ot make diamonds more valuable than they really are


[26-Oct-18 08:31 PM] soundtea#7559
they have warehouses *full of them in bulk*


[26-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Joke's on them, millennials don't want diamonds


[26-Oct-18 08:32 PM] DevField#5162
*They want money*


[26-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Nile#1441
But diamonds are worth money 🤔


[26-Oct-18 08:33 PM] DevField#5162
💎  Good point.


[26-Oct-18 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Supreme made a brick that was valued at thousands times its value as a brick, despite.only having "Supreme" printed on the side and being otherwise indistinguishable from a brick. It's value then this not determined by supply and demand or aesthetics but by the symbolic value of the "Supreme" brand


[26-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lab-grown diamonds are worth less money


[26-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
hence millennials buy them instead.


[26-Oct-18 08:34 PM] DevField#5162
>wait for women to devalue them because they're worth less
*a real man would buy me a real diamond*


[26-Oct-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
That's marketing for you


[26-Oct-18 08:35 PM] soundtea#7559
yep


[26-Oct-18 08:35 PM] soundtea#7559
that's DeBeers entire strat


[26-Oct-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
If you sell "chili soup" that sounds boring.


[26-Oct-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
If you sell "wicked chili soup", people would be interested


[26-Oct-18 08:36 PM] DevField#5162
Indeed, it's not actually about a shiny chunk of rock on her finger, it's about how much utility he will provide


[26-Oct-18 08:36 PM] DevField#5162
A golden ring is nice and all, but diamonds are a girl's best friend after all ~


[26-Oct-18 08:36 PM] Nile#1441
Jewelry isn't that exciting


[26-Oct-18 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Diamond jewlery doesn't even have much use value. It's all in exchange.


[26-Oct-18 08:37 PM] DevField#5162
Jewellery is appealing to the eye, but it's about what it represents, not about what it actually is


[26-Oct-18 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Return to: Symbolic Value

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[26-Oct-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn I heard someone come up with a genius slogan for a restaurant in the UK but it wasn't real


[26-Oct-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Breakfast means breakfast"


[26-Oct-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Belgian waffles


[26-Oct-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
>jewelry


[26-Oct-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
>


[26-Oct-18 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
<


[26-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I want wicked chili soup


[26-Oct-18 10:36 PM] DevField#5162
🤔


[26-Oct-18 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought you only ate soylent (agreeable) and pasta (absolutely shit for you)


[26-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45968606

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The murder that changed America
The death of a gay student, tortured and tied to a prairie fence two decades ago, shocked the world.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/5A7B/production/_104036132_shepard_976.jpg


[26-Oct-18 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yesterday I learned that the entire food supply of the United States is contingent on two railroad companies who move all our grain stocks around the country so if anything went wrong and they went, say: bankrupt we'd all die. https://youtu.be/8LysiXf-DJU

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donoteat DESTROYS cities:skylines industries DLC with FACTS & LOGIC
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[26-Oct-18 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Burlington Rail and Northern Pacific.


[26-Oct-18 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[26-Oct-18 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone should do that and see what happens


[26-Oct-18 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Single points of failure


[26-Oct-18 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is not thought out well


[26-Oct-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well more liek it;s beign run by morons who don't know how to run their own businesses much less the country


[26-Oct-18 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's like the conclusion of over two hundred years of history having a lasting impact on all future stages of history.


[26-Oct-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's almost liek profitable doesnt always translate to sustainable


[26-Oct-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyone want to open up a third railroad company for all that food with me? We'll leave it in charge of all the rail men so that when Burlington and Sante Fe gets smashed up to get it into the same state the country is not without food.


[26-Oct-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want monorails


[26-Oct-18 11:54 PM] Arvid#8335
I still can't tell if that Hillbe guy is serious or if he's supposed to be Satire.


[26-Oct-18 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillbe?


[26-Oct-18 11:59 PM] Arvid#8335
Dude who posts on the politics thread every now and then


[27-Oct-18 12:00 AM] Arvid#8335
He usually just posts a bunch of right leaning conspiracy theories and then leaves for a few months


[27-Oct-18 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[27-Oct-18 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont go int here very often unless i have a news story i think is worth posting


[27-Oct-18 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even thne someone usually beats me to the postanyway


[27-Oct-18 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
lol hillbe


[27-Oct-18 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
he's serious


[27-Oct-18 12:30 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
There's like so much new cool tech to own that wasting money on jewelry really makes no sense, I personally have no interest on it myself


[27-Oct-18 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
He's the worst kind of stupid


[27-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nile#1441
Some people aren't into tech @Fleety von Rainy'


[27-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
There's a lot else to spend on, when I say tech I mean about all the endless stuff that didn't exist 50 years ago, after all technology is any thing we mold to a purpose not simply just smartphones


[27-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Arvid#8335
Like, it's hard to imagine there's a guy out there that is that much of a parody of themself.


[27-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Arvid#8335
But then again look at the MAGA bomber.


[27-Oct-18 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/Z6O1zRm.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/


[27-Oct-18 02:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[27-Oct-18 03:29 AM] Methid Man#6857
I’m shaking my head at how pathetically in denial right-wingers are about this whole maga-bomber incident, claiming it to be a hoax planted by democrats.


[27-Oct-18 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Denial is the core of the current Republican party


[27-Oct-18 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deny the blatantly obvious racism and sexism, deny that gays etc. deserve rights, deny that there are economic problems, deny that authoritarian gov'ts did bad things, deny deny deny.


[27-Oct-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deny what happened in the 80s, deny what happened *last year*, deny what's happening now.


[27-Oct-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deny the president can be indicted, deny the president did bad things, deny that the things he did were bad.


[27-Oct-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deny that the bad things are illegal.


[27-Oct-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It goes on and on and on.


[27-Oct-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no philosophy beneath it, it's just anything to hold on to power.


[27-Oct-18 03:43 AM] Arvid#8335
^This


[27-Oct-18 03:43 AM] Arvid#8335
It's ironic that a lot of conservatives claim to be about "facts over feels"


[27-Oct-18 03:44 AM] Arvid#8335
because half of what they do is deny facts that go against their feelings.


[27-Oct-18 03:44 AM] Arvid#8335
Climate change is a hoax, the MAGAbomber is a hoax, racism isn't a thing in 2018, ect.


[27-Oct-18 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"the only fact we beleive in is that we;re in charge and any othe rfact that get;s in our way of this is now an opinion and not a fact"


[27-Oct-18 04:04 AM] Arvid#8335
Conservatism is basically a doomsday cult at this point


[27-Oct-18 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[27-Oct-18 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they seriously want the rapture to happen


[27-Oct-18 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fidn this kind of creepy


[27-Oct-18 04:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/26/trump-supporters-sceptical-about-pipe-bomb-arrest?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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'I bet $500 they are lying': Trump fans sceptical about pipe bomb ...
Supporters at a campaign rally in North Carolina suspect a liberal hoax as police hold avowed Trump supporter Cesar Sayoc
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[27-Oct-18 04:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump supporters deny reality.


[27-Oct-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Right is all about rejection of things outside the familiar and accepted, it's to be expected it will want to stop immigration etc.


[27-Oct-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this denial of science and basic facts in service of business interests is crazy.


[27-Oct-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in the details, like screwing over business interests anyways out of fear of immigrants.


[27-Oct-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an ideological mess that mostly comes down now to "Trump's in real estate and wants only it to get ahead."


[27-Oct-18 04:13 AM] Arvid#8335
I really hope Trump doesn't win the 2020 election


[27-Oct-18 04:13 AM] Arvid#8335
But sadly I think he still has a decent chance to win it, hate to say


[27-Oct-18 04:14 AM] Arvid#8335
I don't think the DNC is doing well at all


[27-Oct-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd need a really horrible opponent


[27-Oct-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
or another 9/11


[27-Oct-18 04:14 AM] Arvid#8335
I wonder if the MAGA bomber will have any effect on the mid terms


[27-Oct-18 04:15 AM] Arvid#8335
Will the Dems get more votes because people were upset about the Magabomber


[27-Oct-18 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh FFS, https://imgur.com/gallery/xBR7GV2

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Voters! Double check your ballot before submitting it! The Texas machines are malfunctioning across the state.
https://i.imgur.com/QgqP7jah.jpg


[27-Oct-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If real, big big problems


[27-Oct-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Straight tikket selection of Democrat -> Ted Cruz selected as vote for Senate


[27-Oct-18 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course the only way ted cruz can win is if he cheats


[27-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supposedly it comes from hitting the selection before everything's loaded


[27-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assuming nobody rigged this shit, this means one of two things


[27-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either it defaults to Ted Cruz, in which case welp, RIP Beto


[27-Oct-18 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
or it defaults to the opposite, in which case RIP entire election


[27-Oct-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a TERRIBLE way to design UI


[27-Oct-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
do not accept input if you can't yet handle it


[27-Oct-18 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile gaorgia is fucked because soemhow it;s legal to hold the position of vote registrator while runnign for election as a senator


[27-Oct-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, say this is rigged


[27-Oct-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
in that case, guess that's how Texas stays red


[27-Oct-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the time anyone gets arrested etc.


[27-Oct-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ted Cruz will be in office illegitimately.


[27-Oct-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“Specifically, the Hart eSlate system uses a keyboard with an `Enter’ button and a selection wheel button. The `Enter’ button on a Hart eSlate selects a voter’s choice. The selection wheel button on a Hart eSlate allows the voter to move up and down the ballot. It is important when voting on a Hart eSlate machine for the voter to use one button or the other and not both simultaneously, and for the voter to not hit the `Enter’ button or use the selection wheel button until a page is fully rendered,” the advisory continues. “A voter should note the response to the voter’s action on the keyboard prior to taking another keyboard action. It is also important for the voter to verify their selections are correct before casting their ballot.”'


[27-Oct-18 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHO THE FUKK DESIGNED THIS?


[27-Oct-18 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY ARE THEY EMPLOYED?


[27-Oct-18 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the stupidest input setup I've ever heard of


[27-Oct-18 04:25 AM] Arvid#8335
https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/970321216895516672

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https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/970321216895516672
This Palestinian family is running away from Israeli soldiers. Then, they get a grenade thrown at them and their baby. https://t.co/HmEuusEf0x
Retweets
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Twitter


[27-Oct-18 04:25 AM] Arvid#8335
Zionism in action


[27-Oct-18 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, make sure to boycott Israeli settlement crap


[27-Oct-18 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in like, do not invest in any company helping with it


[27-Oct-18 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which companies are this?


[27-Oct-18 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caterpillar for instance gladly sells the heavy machinery for it


[27-Oct-18 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are other construction vehicle companies?


[27-Oct-18 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/01/582351970/u-n-compiles-list-of-companies-that-profit-from-israeli-settlements

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U.N. Compiles List Of Companies That Profit From Israeli Settlements
The human rights office at the U.N. says it has list of about 200 global companies that do business in Israeli settlements in the West Bank. The U.S. and Israel don't want the list published.
https://media.npr.org/include/images/facebook-default-wide.jpg?s=1400


[27-Oct-18 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are.


[27-Oct-18 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good pepsi isnt ont here


[27-Oct-18 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but coke is


[27-Oct-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course the full list is being blokked https://truthout.org/articles/israel-and-us-hide-names-of-companies-supporting-israeli-settlements/

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Israel and US Hide Names of Companies Supporting Israeli Settlements
It's a sign that the divestment campaign is working.
https://truthout.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Marjorie-Cohn-Israel-and-US-Hide-Names-of-Companies-Supporting-Israeli-Settlements.jpg


[27-Oct-18 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they did


[27-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some widely-known ones hav faced punitive measures in a few countries


[27-Oct-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scandinavia especially isn't fond of companies that assist in breaking international law.


[27-Oct-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK meanwhile is very much like the US with the "how dare you try to stop capitalism"


[27-Oct-18 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Related https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-acted-unlawfully-israeli-pension-funds-investment-boycott-restrictions-high-court-a7803146.html

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Government acted unlawfully by restricting boycotts of Israel
Campaigners say illegal occupation is 50 years old this month and people have a right to decide not to profit from human rights abuses
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/02/19/21/web-israel-boycott-palestine-getty.jpg


[27-Oct-18 06:04 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Dam dood the world be fukd up


[27-Oct-18 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you drink the flavoraid hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TPFBI2sYik

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'When It Comes To Black People, I Think They’re All Ugly,' Says ...
A 16-year-old African-American insists she’s white – and that she is better than other black people. See what happens when she meets Dr. Phil. https://www.dr...
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[27-Oct-18 12:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
Also, speaking of byzantine bureaucracy:


[27-Oct-18 12:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
>>1842790


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[27-Oct-18 12:58 PM] Deleted User#0000
Also lol Sunni Italy


[27-Oct-18 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now we need a pic of a ponified Saladin and Isaac Angelos


[27-Oct-18 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill/

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Pat Martin
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/10/27/heavy-police-presence-near-synagogue-in-squirrel-hill
8 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue
Police from across the city of Pittsburgh are responding to an active shooting situation at the The Tree of Life Synagogue in Squirrel Hill.
https://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/active-shooter.jpg?w=1024


[27-Oct-18 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Local news


[27-Oct-18 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I live less than 15 minutes away from the area in question


[27-Oct-18 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Deleted User Sunni for as long as Ibadi leadership lasts. The fuse till crusade time got lit once one of my vassals decided to take Rome so now I wait. But since the Catholic world is being skullfucked by Pagan Germans from the north and the Ummayads I get the impression there'll be minimal support. But I'll have minimal support in that respect too since I'm cut off from the Sunni Ummah.


[27-Oct-18 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
death count up to 10


[27-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't okay https://www.npr.org/2018/10/27/660643999/trump-republicans-continue-remaking-the-federal-courts-even-as-senate-on-recess

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Trump, Republicans Continue Remaking The Federal Courts — E...
This October, the Senate Judiciary Committee has, for the first time ever, held judicial nomination hearings during a recess of the Senate and over the objections of the minority party.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/10/25/gettyimages-1058816638sjc_wide-fbea322fac2709b668f9aa006516e8cd09bbf5ca.jpg?s=1400


[27-Oct-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're holding confirmation hearings during senate recess


[27-Oct-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much every procedural chekk against rapid-fire judge confirmation is going away.


[27-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically pakking the courts.


[27-Oct-18 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
it's because the midterms are coming up


[27-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but this isn't normal.


[27-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republicans are trying to make sure Democrats stay out of power forever.


[27-Oct-18 09:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Welcome to politics


[27-Oct-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to dictatorship


[27-Oct-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is not how politics normally work


[27-Oct-18 09:52 PM] Nile#1441
Politics are gay sometimes


[27-Oct-18 09:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[27-Oct-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/25/18001684/2018-midterms-hacked-russia-election-security-voting

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https://www.vox.com/2018/10/25/18001684/2018-midterms-hacked-russia-election-security-voting
The midterms are already hacked. You just don’t know it yet.
An investigation into the US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at almost every level.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/v_T5tZ65TAkXT4RWifWNsHFMU3Q=/0x0:3000x1571/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13325955/Vox_Voting_Inline_3.jpg


[27-Oct-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Russia has a lot of easy targets still because of the fragmented system of individual counties buying non-standardized machines with no clue, the countermeasures made hav done barely anything, and to top it all off, the White House's only steps taken here hav been to remove key positions that would've been dedicated to fighting this.


[27-Oct-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and Russia *really* wants to stop Democrats from winning.


[27-Oct-18 10:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
russia meme


[27-Oct-18 10:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why are people so worried about russia hacking everything


[27-Oct-18 10:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's the most bs thing


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is some FUD if I've ever seen it


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
goin back to like the cold war


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you are currently actively spreading disinformation.


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Russia is intentionally creating FUD as the main goal of their attakks.


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, people ought not to be worried about the potential that russia could hack our elections


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
They already did


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no they didn't


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just the opposing political party being salty


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
blaming the system for their failures


[27-Oct-18 10:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
desperately trying to find some way to win


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election in order to increase political instability in the United States and to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign by bolstering the candidacies of Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. A Janua...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/ODNI_Statement_on_Declassified_Intelligence_Community_Assessment_of_Russian_Activities_and_Intentions_in_Recent_U.S._Elections.pdf/page1-1200px-ODNI_Statement_on_Declassified_Intelligence_Community_Assessment_of_Russian_Activities_and_Intentions_in_Recent_U.S._Elections.pdf.jpg


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is clear evidence they hav attakked election systems to gather information, create fear, and disrupt political activity.


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are lying.


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
So you mean that every single thing here is wrong


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Got it


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>mobile wikipedia


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
byte u sadden me


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well th eplan is simple, they get republicans in places of permewnent power and thne those republicans turn traitor and sellt he coutnry to putin


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, fear benefits conservatives over liberals


[27-Oct-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
they tend to be more motivated by it.


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the point is there's nothing conclusive here


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is plenty conclusive here


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you'd think "hacking the election" would be easy to proove


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but no


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's bs


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
you are in denial.


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just a bunch of words about suspicion and people admitting it and etc


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That DDoS attakk is pretty easy to prove


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Everything here is absolutely conclusive unless it is labeled as being speculative


[27-Oct-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one against the results website mentioned in the article


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
note this says russian interference


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not "xd russian hacking"


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Hacking is a small part of what they did


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are now moving goalposts to semantic technicalities


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not really


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
and yes, hakking is involved.


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my original argument was about hacking


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you're the one moving goalposts


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They exploited system vulnerabilities.


[27-Oct-18 10:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and where's the proof


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
All over, but you refuse to read it.


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
show me some


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
o wait


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you c a n t


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a bit of it was laid out in the article I linked.


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you did not read it.


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you will not.


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you are not interested in your beliefs being challenged.


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Sure I am


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just know it's stupid what you say


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's no hard evidence


[27-Oct-18 10:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if there was it'd be easy to convince me


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like "ddos attack from russia"


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The US and Russia are no strangers to political interference in other countries. US is working over in the UK, Most of the midle east and Russia without a doubt. is it really that far of a reach to believe that Russia is doing the same?


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yeah that happens all the time


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are now using your own disbelief as evidence against belief.


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a circular argument.


[27-Oct-18 10:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not my problem you can't convince people


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also the wikipedia page has a section called


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"Social media and internet trolls"


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so I think I know who wrote this article


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
them blasted internet trolls from the 4chans


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
That's my article


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Not his


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they said to read it


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so they clearly support it


[27-Oct-18 10:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the article is gay and people saying this stuff are gay

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[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"The Guardian wrote in November 2016 the most strident Internet promoters of Trump were paid Russian propagandists, estimating several thousand trolls involved"


[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you know what this reminds me of


[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
arguing with people here


[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's astroturfing, not hakking.


[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just call them trolls


[27-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
makes it easier to believe


[27-Oct-18 10:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
fucking


[27-Oct-18 10:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I never thought I'd see the word troll farm be used in a serious context


[27-Oct-18 10:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
these people are off the walls


[27-Oct-18 10:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
its the RUSSIAN TROLL FARMS causing our elections to go to shit


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45971537

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Putin warns Europe on hosting US missiles
Russia will respond "in kind" if new US nuclear missiles are placed in Europe, President Putin says.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/9A66/production/_103962593_hi050087584.jpg


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
how desperate do you gotta be


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a combination of the troll farms, DDoS attakks, phishing campaigns, and other measures


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you won't believe any evidence of it.


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think they're seeing things that aren't there


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the russian troll farms are just people on the internet having a gigl


[27-Oct-18 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are the russian troll farms are controlled by the russian government


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, the CIA and FBI


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ddoses hapen all the time


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
are totally just seeing things


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm sure every election gets ddosed in some way


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire intelligence community is full of idiots, clearly


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you, LemonDrop


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
normies


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
are much much smarter than them


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they don't know wtf they're doing


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are an idiot.


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Glad you realize that nebbie


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do know what they are doing.


[27-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lmao as if


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are completely ignoring information coming from experts


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
because you believe you know better


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is not sane.


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
e x p e r t s


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, experts


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
experts in what


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't suddenly lose credibility because they disagree with you


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
internet trolling


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm more an expert in that than they are :^)


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cybersecurity, national security, espionage, and related.


[27-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are not an expert in any of those things.


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Claiming to be will get you rapidly thrown out of the intelligence community.


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I like how you think it's just a cute happy objective process


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no politics involved here nope none at all


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just reduce everything to politics to make the other side wrong by some kind of imagined bias.


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Believe it or not, some people hav actual jobs to find actual facts.


[27-Oct-18 10:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because they're grasping for info


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again it's all inconclusive


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's conclusive


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
very fuzzy evidence and correlations


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly anything you could say is fact


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you don't accept it because you think you know more about espionage than the CIA


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do because I know the cia is political


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they know the truth


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you aren't?


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's being altered


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
If everyone is political, then you havn't established why you know better than them


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
unless you believe yourself to be an apolitical exception


[27-Oct-18 10:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am not political

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[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhahahah


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I could give a shit less about politics


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You clearly care deeply


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's always just one side lying to get the other thrown out of power


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's half of what you talk about day to day


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
recurring theme


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to get quite upset when things are against your political views, as well.


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Like do you think the whole sexual assault allegation disaster was anything different


[27-Oct-18 10:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I was just giggling my butt off for weeks every time I heard that on the radio


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it was the most obvious fuckin political play to try and stop something that the party didn't like


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just seeing all the normies flock to their defense and stuff was hilarious


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and the news couldn't stfu about it


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but as with most things nothing was conclusive


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just some vague strings of evidence and some words


[27-Oct-18 10:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just pathetic


[27-Oct-18 10:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
now half the country is convinced there's a rapist on the supreme court


[27-Oct-18 10:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what a great thing politics is


[27-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think both sides do that sort of thing really


[27-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just a big ole mess


[27-Oct-18 10:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most media outlets seem to be more left-leaning tho which is why it's really ramped up lately


[27-Oct-18 10:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
from my observation at least


[27-Oct-18 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
just let him ramble


[27-Oct-18 10:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
owo


[27-Oct-18 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/27/us/pittsburgh-synagogue-active-shooter/index.html

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11 people killed in Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, official says
Eleven people were killed in Saturday's shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, according to Curt Conrad, chief of staff for Pittsburgh City Councilman Corey O'Connor.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181027130214-05-pittsburgh-shooting-1027-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[27-Oct-18 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Death count up to 11


[27-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It sucks that when trump tries to say something about such things they always just get floods of people being asshats


[27-Oct-18 10:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like what can he not be sympathetic


[27-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
pretty bizzare that people treat the president that way especially in such a context


[27-Oct-18 10:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
social media was a mistake


[27-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
honestly tho I think this is just more indication that you should keep personal things to yourself


[27-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people will always exist out there which dislike you for what you believe in


[27-Oct-18 10:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
publicly displaying that is going to get you targeted in one way or another


[27-Oct-18 10:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
kinda sux but that'll never change


[27-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is never sympathetic about this


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump on the Saudi journalist asssassination just said Saudis did their coverup bad


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well it's true


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
so instead of showing sympathy to journalists and those targeted by dictators, he took an opportunity to insult a dictator for not being good enuff


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like pointing out that saudi arabia is a pile of fuck


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And on this disaster, he's decided to talk of how the synagogue should've had armed guards


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and notifying the world of that


[27-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of show sympathy


[27-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[27-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
as I said publicly showing contriversal ideas is a danger


[27-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you should have protection by doing it


[27-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would get actual points for sympathy *if he actually showed sympathy*


[27-Oct-18 10:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think he does


[27-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but he does want to make the country better


[27-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a place where people dun have to be afraid for their life to practice a religion


[27-Oct-18 11:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if I was religious I'd be scared


[27-Oct-18 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Police presence has consistently made me more fearful than absence


[27-Oct-18 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Because even though I'm white, I do not trust the police not to shoot at me, not to arrest me or to not to press charges or not to commit perjury


[27-Oct-18 11:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye so just don't do anything


[27-Oct-18 11:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
keep to yourself


[27-Oct-18 11:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
stay on the internet where it's safe


[27-Oct-18 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not an acceptable compromise, "don't do anything so that the cops don't fuck you up"


[27-Oct-18 11:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why not


[27-Oct-18 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
because the cops are to protect and serve and if they do that by violating my rights and lying in court I don't see how they are protecting or serving


[27-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Here we go with the classic conservative "just do ___, don't blame society for society's problems"


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like everything's so hinged on PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY that if the gov't fukks up, you just hav to personally change everything because 1) Reforming the gov't isn't considered an option and 2) It's clearly your fault


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well it isn't


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think most police would do the right thing


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I cannot trust that small percentage that wouldn't


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Police cover their own asses


[27-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should be able to trust them


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can't ever


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
they should be held to a very high standard of conduct


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
your life is in your own hands for the most part


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it can be better I'd imagine


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If we cannot trust the police, the police need to be reformed.


[27-Oct-18 11:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd never trust them lol


[27-Oct-18 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_perjury this practice is so common there's well known legal slang for it ("testilying")

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Police perjury
Police perjury (or testilying in United States police slang) is the act of a police officer giving false testimony. It is typically used in a criminal trial to "make the case" against a defendant believed by the police to be guilty when irregularities during the suspect's arr...


[27-Oct-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Protect and serve" is basically a joke here in my country


[27-Oct-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And there are people here who basically worship the Brazilian Military Police as an undispensable asset


[27-Oct-18 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind their proven tyrannical, trigger-happy conduct


[27-Oct-18 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian police needs a serious reform, not a weapons upgrade


[27-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the conservative vicious spiral


[27-Oct-18 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw LemonDrop, no one on the face of the earth is apolitical, unless they're a fetus


[27-Oct-18 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives tend to be fearful, blame things on criminals and arm the police more etc.


[27-Oct-18 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that only leads to the violence being oushed towards other areas


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
this focus on enforcement and violence instead of actually fixing the societal issues then causes societal harm


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i.e., where the cops are less present


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means that there's more inequality and as a result more criminals, and they're more violent


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
this then makes people adopt more conservative views


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, my country might elect a fash douche who holds those very views tomorrow


[27-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If left completely unchekked, it turns into a dictatorship


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yup


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am not explicitly political I guess


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I have beliefs


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I don't associate with a bipartisan system


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You are indeed explicitly political


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I also don't praticipate in politics in this country


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus to do so is a violation of privacy


[27-Oct-18 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Politics aren't necessarily bipartisanship on social issues, they're a way to express how you want society to be shaped


[27-Oct-18 11:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Perhaps


[27-Oct-18 11:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
depends on the context I guess


[27-Oct-18 11:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yes


[27-Oct-18 11:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my desire for the world's shape is prob not one many people follow


[27-Oct-18 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/million-muslims-are-held-detention-camps-china-now-portrays-humane-n922041

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/million-muslims-are-held-detention-camps-china-now-portrays-humane-n922041
China wants to portray its vast Muslim detention camps as 'humane'
For decades, criticism of Beijing’s heavy-handed rule in its western region was met with silence. But now Chinese leaders have decided to defend it.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_42/2611066/181019-xianjian-muslims-mc-13144_6c87f211699c220a7a078c9ecff9b2dd.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[27-Oct-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/world/asia/china-uighurs-sweden-asylum.html

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They Escaped China’s Crackdown, but Now Wait in Limbo
An ethnic Uighur Muslim family’s struggle to stay in Sweden illustrates the risks for a people whose plight, until recently, had received little attention.
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[27-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
China should be broken in three


[27-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
China, Tibet, and a country for the Uighurs


[27-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no easily reforming the central gov't


[27-Oct-18 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Not Manchuria


[27-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it simply has to be broken apart


[27-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
altho any change will be very difficult.


[27-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Manchus don't generally face discrimination, and in fact their culture is strongly supported by the central gov't


[28-Oct-18 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Quiet a few are by Chinese law. But if we're breaking the Chinese up into smaller polities might as well leave no possibility unturned.


[28-Oct-18 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Manchus are a small minority, even in the land traditionally called "Manchuria"


[28-Oct-18 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Heck, i think the biggest concentration of Manchus is actually in northeastern Inner Mongolia


[28-Oct-18 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
RELEASE THE BANNERS


[28-Oct-18 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Shit while we're at it let's give the Hui their own homeland in central interior China. In that dry shit between the coast and Uygurstan.


[28-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm generally for integration unless it leads to oppression


[28-Oct-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
large majority suppressing minority to crush their culture is not okay.


[28-Oct-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least, places like Tibet need some autonomy so the central gov't can't just waltz in and arrest people.


[28-Oct-18 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sort of like the Native Americans out of negligence.


[28-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just negligence.


[28-Oct-18 02:12 AM] Deleted User#0000
@AaronMk lol


[28-Oct-18 02:12 AM] Deleted User#0000
Also, it seems they reworked all the succession mechanics for all the government types, making them more sophisticated.


[28-Oct-18 02:13 AM] Deleted User#0000
Now it will be more difficult for the AI to have a Shia French king or a Sunni HRE Emperor, for example.


[28-Oct-18 02:14 AM] Deleted User#0000
They have just made a CK 2.5


[28-Oct-18 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
I haven't seen those since, like, Sword of Islam first came out.


[28-Oct-18 02:15 AM] Deleted User#0000
Eh, it's rare but it happened, according to the forums


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well I know I've had one of my heirs in a game mysteriously convert to Judaism when I was playing as Egypt.


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
What is witness impeachment?


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I was like, "Oh, I guess it's time to be a Jewish kingdom"


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] Deleted User#0000
Also now the Byzantine succession won't be hereditary no more, the Emperor will select his heir by appointing a co-emperor. Yay historical accuracy


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I melted down the Arab Empire and literally ruled everything from Persia to Spain


[28-Oct-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
woo


[28-Oct-18 02:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
And the bureaucracy (read: titled vassals and commanders) will have the power to support another heir


[28-Oct-18 02:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
and to influence the succession


[28-Oct-18 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_III_of_Hungary

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[28-Oct-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TFW NO BIG CLAY HUNGARO-BYZANTINE EMPIRE


[28-Oct-18 02:19 AM] Deleted User#0000
;_;


[28-Oct-18 02:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
we were so close, damn


[28-Oct-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
big clay mor like bigge ghey

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[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
ur mum ghey

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[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No


[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
Just imagine, an empire from Hungary to Anatolia in the 12th century


[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm ghey


[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[28-Oct-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes me


[28-Oct-18 02:24 AM] Deleted User#0000
Ruled by Hungarians. Talk about CK2 memes


[28-Oct-18 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw in my current CK2 game the Hungarians settled in Prussia and literally demolished everything.


[28-Oct-18 02:26 AM] Deleted User#0000
They can be pretty wild, especially while angry pagans


[28-Oct-18 02:37 AM] Deleted User#0000
Also, titled people and commanders with high intrigue will have a higher score for the succession. Basically deceitful people and assassins as most favoured pretenders to the throne.


[28-Oct-18 02:39 AM] Deleted User#0000
As it historically was, in many occasions.


[28-Oct-18 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
So if you want your family to maintain the throne you have to suppress the people with high intrique.


[28-Oct-18 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder then if they'll add the option to basically be an unlanded noble now. Or reduce it to baronies like in merchant republics.


[28-Oct-18 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sit at home and work on your palace and maintain family politics to position yourself back in power.


[28-Oct-18 02:42 AM] Deleted User#0000
Unfortunately, they couldn't rework the vassals, who are still feudal.


[28-Oct-18 02:43 AM] Deleted User#0000
While historically, they were commanders who were appointed by Constantinople's central government.


[28-Oct-18 02:45 AM] Deleted User#0000
So yes, the "dukes", or better "strategoi", were technically unlanded. Even if they usually tried to push their relatives as heirs.


[28-Oct-18 02:47 AM] Deleted User#0000
Also new hot meme, after the boar vessel, Etruscan, 600-500 BC, the merchant vessel, Greek, 400 BC


[28-Oct-18 02:47 AM] Deleted User#0000
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/9qr38l/a_greek_merchant_ship_dating_back_more_than_2400/

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r/Damnthatsinteresting - A Greek merchant ship dating back more th...
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[28-Oct-18 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, I heard about that discovery. Pretty radical.


[28-Oct-18 02:54 AM] Deleted User#0000
yep, totally


[28-Oct-18 02:55 AM] Deleted User#0000
Really similar to the merchant ship from Age of Empires I  tbh


[28-Oct-18 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I know we had artistic representations of ships from the time. But now we have physical remains to cross-check with them.


[28-Oct-18 02:59 AM] Deleted User#0000
Pretty ancient remains too, since they are from Thucydides and Socrates' time. Also a confirmation that classical Greeks were pretty active merchants back in the day.


[28-Oct-18 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
If I remember my development of Greece at the time, Socrates and Thucydides were from the long era in Greek society where the old warlord types felt actively threatened by the growing merchant class, which I think was more-or-less entirely the reason Greek philosophy exists because there was enough of a shift in Greek society that there could be people that ask if  government ruled by burly men with spears who rob other burly men with spears is at all viable.


[28-Oct-18 02:08 AM] Deleted User#0000
Yes basically. Thucydides himself recontructed a speech by the Spartan king Archidamus, at the beginning of the Peloponnesian war, in which Archidamus complained that the Spartans, unlike the Athenians who were already merchants, couldn't afford a navy, unless they found a way to make some money (and money was basically non existent in Sparta at the time). In that occasion Archidamus said to his puzzled Spartans: "war is a matter not so much of arms as of money".


[28-Oct-18 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, I could raise The Odyssey as a proof of sort on how wealth and property was treated back in the day. Less as an exchange of capital, though it does at time happen but as plunder of gifts. Like Odysseus went off from Troy with a ship full of loot which he would have ostensibly used as exchange for something else with some king. And often times kings from somewhere would just gift him things because he like him and part of the value was it being a gift.


[28-Oct-18 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
To a point this would have been the economic model I think for a long while where stuff like land was most important because from land material could be acquired which would be exchanged for other things. Stuff that could expire may be converted into money indirectly. But ever noble had their own coinage up until standardization in the mid-late 18th century.


[28-Oct-18 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or 17th even, if later on in that.


[28-Oct-18 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise, merchants used salt or wine as a universal exchange. Going somewhere? Don't carry twenty different set values of coin but take maybe three types in the area plus a load of wine and universal commodities to exchange for coin and then use that to purchase stuff and take that all home and convert back to local currency.


[28-Oct-18 02:17 AM] Deleted User#0000
Well, salary comes from *salarium*, aka "salt money", the wage of the soldiers of the early Roman Republic.


[28-Oct-18 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
salt is fucking delicious


[28-Oct-18 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
enough said


[28-Oct-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
EXCHANGE OF NON-EXPIRING AND EASILY TRANSPORTABLE COMMODITIES


[28-Oct-18 02:19 AM] Deleted User#0000
I hope that money will be replaced with salt, in the future post-humanist fully automatized communist society.


[28-Oct-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not anticipating all future exchanges and abolishing it all together


[28-Oct-18 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/european-court-of-human-rights-sorry-charlie-hebdo-but-you-had-it-coming

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European Court of Human Rights: Sorry, Charlie Hebdo, but you had ...
Europe's ever-steady march towards illiberal, totalitarian nonsense continues apace. The European Court of Human Rights ruled this week that defaming the Prophet Muhammad is not protected speech. More specifically, the court said an “Austrian woman’s conviction for callin...


[28-Oct-18 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
"carefully balanced her right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected"


[28-Oct-18 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
There is NO human right to protection of feelings


[28-Oct-18 07:13 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Is this the 21st century or did they just regress back to medieval times?


[28-Oct-18 07:13 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 07:13 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
EUROPE, some of the most progressive regions on the planet in the 21st CENTURY


[28-Oct-18 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ireland is looking like it voted to repeal its blasphemy BS from its constitution


[28-Oct-18 07:14 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Repeal this shit!


[28-Oct-18 07:14 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Blasphamey laws have NO PLACE in this era


[28-Oct-18 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Earlier the police actually tried to go after Stephen Fry, but found that nobody cared, and the law required substantial outrage etc.


[28-Oct-18 07:15 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Regardless of the amount of outrage. Free expression is a sacred right.


[28-Oct-18 07:15 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The 1st exists for a reason.


[28-Oct-18 07:15 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Yeah yeah, consequences and privat ecitizens have leverage


[28-Oct-18 07:15 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But  this is the government trying to censor people in Europe's case.


[28-Oct-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Need to get an EU directive against laws abridging free speech


[28-Oct-18 07:16 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Just because they're afraid some people may have their fee fees hurt from someone disagreeing with a particular religion


[28-Oct-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
would need to convince France first on hate speech, tho


[28-Oct-18 07:16 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
EU needs to collapse


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is essentially globalism lol


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That's right


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point of globalism is being nearly immune to collapse


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Dismantle


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because instead of war and actual fighting, you politic each other


[28-Oct-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you're too interconnected to do anything huge


[28-Oct-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
once borders are open, you can't really close them again


[28-Oct-18 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/10/03/logan-man-arrested-during/

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Police say Utah man confesses to sending ricin-laced letters to Tr...
A Navy veteran from Utah confessed to sending letters containing a poison to President Donald Trump and other top government officials on Wednesday, according to a probable cause affidavit filed in the 2nd District Court.
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[28-Oct-18 07:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently while bombs were being sent to democrats, poison was beign sent to republicans


[28-Oct-18 07:32 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Texas has open carry swords...so either we are going back medieval times, or pvp zones,


[28-Oct-18 07:41 AM] Arvid#8335
Globalism is a meaningless term


[28-Oct-18 07:41 AM] Arvid#8335
Economic globalization on the other hand, that's real.


[28-Oct-18 07:41 AM] Arvid#8335
Economic globalization is the primary purpose of the European Union.


[28-Oct-18 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economic integration leads to political integration.


[28-Oct-18 07:44 AM] Arvid#8335
I'll just say globalization then.


[28-Oct-18 07:45 AM] Arvid#8335
"Globalism" is too Alex Jones-esque sounding.


[28-Oct-18 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The -ism form is to brand it as a political ideology instead of a system. The EU *is* globalization, but the idea of the EU is globalism.


[28-Oct-18 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, co-opting terms to remove their negative connotations is a great way to invalid asshats.


[28-Oct-18 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not alright https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2018/10/26/pricey-precision-medicine-often-financially-toxic-cancer-patients/1766358002/

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High price of precision medicine forces cancer patients to make ag...
Medical treatments that target the DNA in tumor cells are celebrated, but insurers often won’t cover the skyrocketing cost.
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[28-Oct-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Genetic testing has become the standard of care for melanoma and a common type of lung cancer, but no one knows if genomic sequencing will extend the lives of people with other types of cancer, said Dr. Carolyn Presley, an assistant professor at the Ohio State University Comprehensive Cancer Center.'


[28-Oct-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is bullshit and it's killing people.


[28-Oct-18 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is 0 logical reason that genomic sequencing would somehow not help with choosing the treatment for a specific type of cancer.


[28-Oct-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would require that a specific type of cancer had no variation changing treatment efficacy.


[28-Oct-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which given all types of cancer hav large variations possible, is essentially impossible.


[28-Oct-18 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in India https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/he-moved-to-a-jungle-in-india-to-escape-his-student-debt--and-hes-not-alone-.html

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He moved to a jungle in India to escape his giant student debt —...
Some student loan borrowers are packing their bags and fleeing to other countries.
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[28-Oct-18 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
A guy who realized that designated shitting mud paths are actually superior to being in the US with crushing student debt.


[28-Oct-18 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Chad Haag considered living in a cave to escape his student debt. He had a friend doing it. But after some plotting, he settled on what he considered a less risky plan. This year, he relocated to a jungle in India. "I've put America behind me," Haag, 29, said.'


[28-Oct-18 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
'"Some toilets here are holes in the ground you squat over," Haag said. Recently, he ate spoiled goat meat at a local restaurant and landed in the emergency room.
Still, he said, "I have a higher standard of living in a Third World country than I would in America, because of my student loans."'


[28-Oct-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/27/661270003/jeff-sessions-told-doj-not-to-discuss-citizenship-question-alternatives

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Jeff Sessions Told DOJ Not To Discuss Citizenship Question Alterna...
After receiving a Justice Department request for a new 2020 census question, the Census Bureau came up with another way to generate more accurate citizenship data. The DOJ refused to meet about it.
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[28-Oct-18 09:28 AM] LemonDrop#9571
whiny baby can't handle the consequences of their actions and decides to become a criminal to avoid responsibility


[28-Oct-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's nothing illegal about avoiding debt collection.


[28-Oct-18 09:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps but it's still pretty bad behavior


[28-Oct-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't


[28-Oct-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's shitty to make it necessary to saddle yourself with tons of debt like this to get decent education


[28-Oct-18 09:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
whine some more


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
more like don't go to college for gender studies and your degree will pay off


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
with interest rates and required payments that essentially destroy your income after graduation.


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
fuckin


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
philosophy major


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like yeah good choice guy


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it just writes itself


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need people who study philosophy


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but if you're going to go into debt for it it's not a good financial move


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you need to think about how this investment will reward you with more money in the future


[28-Oct-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a required financial move


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the world is based on supply and demand


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not getting the major results in far worse employment.


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and we have a demand for things like engineering and science


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
not philosophy


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it sucks but that's how it goes


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is plenty of demand for philosophy


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
not enough


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The job market in the US is just incredibly hostile to recent graduates


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
some jobs will be inferior to others in how much money you can make


[28-Oct-18 09:31 AM] LemonDrop#9571
this is a simple fact


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you may like something a lot which doesn't pay well which is fine but it's not a good idea to spend $100k on a college without any plan of making the money later


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just about planning


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had plans, but the job market in the US fukks over graduates now


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I am in debt by a lot more than that but I know my degree will actually help me make money


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it was calculated


[28-Oct-18 09:32 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so I am not worried


[28-Oct-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wants people with work experience


[28-Oct-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you currently employed from your degree, or are you currently studying?


[28-Oct-18 09:33 AM] LemonDrop#9571
currently studying still but I've already worked over summers and stuff


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you're *probably* going to get a decent job


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
even a silly summer internship could easily keep me well off with my debt and I'll be makin more than that


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there is no guarantee


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's almost 100% for me now


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could easily end up in his situation if things don't work out.


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
since I can easily go back to those companies which hired me before


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but yes some people just suck and can't get jobs


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
luckily I do not suck


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't be too sure of that.


[28-Oct-18 09:34 AM] LemonDrop#9571
of course


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but you aren't the one hiring me luckily


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and my derpi profile is not what I submit to companies


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could find that the companies don't want you bakk.


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
indeed but that's not likely


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
as they already ask for me back when I cannot


[28-Oct-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would require a slight shift in their plans for growth, indeed.


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
college is good because it can get you connected with companies like that in addition to just teaching you many skills


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and for most people it is a good idea


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
cus you will come out of it making more on average than how you went in


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
people with degrees just make more money


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But quite a few will slip thru the crakks like him


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That isn't likely due to his major choice


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but again that's choice of degree, skill and of course "luck" at times


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like yeah sometimes you just get fucked


[28-Oct-18 09:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but that's life


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it certainly isn't due to a lakk of ambition


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It shouldn't be life


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] LemonDrop#9571
cant' say the system is shit just because of your own issues


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] LemonDrop#9571
works fine for most people


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
we as a society hav the power to fix our system


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system is shit if it causes easily fixable problems like this and does not fix them.


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be improved.


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that thing about the citizenship question


[28-Oct-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
'But days after the Census Bureau received the Justice Department's request, its staff concluded that collecting people's self-reported information through the census would not be the best way to generate better citizenship data. Instead, compiling existing government records about people's citizenship status, the bureau found, would not only produce more accurate information but also cost less money.'


[28-Oct-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Jeff Sessions disallowed talking alternatives


[28-Oct-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally going with an option that would likely make the data worse while being much more costly


[28-Oct-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny how Republicans make big talk about lowering deficits


[28-Oct-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then in practice they seem to want to spend as much money as possible going after minorities


[28-Oct-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's almost like they're really just trying to use financial priorities as a smokescreen to cut benefits that could cause groups they don't like to gain political influence


[28-Oct-18 09:41 AM] ononim#8141
@LemonDrop not to burst your bubble but organized by state online provocateurs aka "troll farms" are real thing in 21st century Russia


[28-Oct-18 09:41 AM] ononim#8141
Crazy I know, but such is the life in clown timeline


[28-Oct-18 09:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 09:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
russia doesn't exist


[28-Oct-18 09:42 AM] ononim#8141
Do not @ me I haven't fisnished reading all the shit you and neb spewed


[28-Oct-18 09:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ur tryin to fool me


[28-Oct-18 09:42 AM] ononim#8141
Нахуй пошёл


[28-Oct-18 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[28-Oct-18 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[28-Oct-18 06:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
So what he's saying is that America is a great country


[28-Oct-18 06:17 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not that great and never has been


[28-Oct-18 06:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's pretty great


[28-Oct-18 06:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's why people wanna come here


[28-Oct-18 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, toppling democratically elected governments and installing friendly tinpot dictatorships


[28-Oct-18 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such defenders of freedom


[28-Oct-18 06:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pinochet was not a bastard at all amirite


[28-Oct-18 06:22 PM] Nile#1441
The U.S. hasn't been good at regime changes wherever it's went.


[28-Oct-18 06:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has been good in West Germany


[28-Oct-18 06:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In Japan


[28-Oct-18 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But those are outside the Monroe Doctrine area


[28-Oct-18 06:24 PM] Nile#1441
Japan and West Germany won't make up for Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and much of Latin America.


[28-Oct-18 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed.


[28-Oct-18 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the experiences in Japan and Germany could be more-or-less replicated in other countries


[28-Oct-18 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, tall order. All they want from us is profit.


[28-Oct-18 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
we want bananas


[28-Oct-18 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
and mexicans to pick our oranges


[28-Oct-18 06:27 PM] Nile#1441
Germany and Japan overall were special cases I'd have to guess, they needed strong allies like them for what was to come.


[28-Oct-18 06:28 PM] Nile#1441
Cold War :Cakelestia:


[28-Oct-18 06:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Someone's gotta do it


[28-Oct-18 06:31 PM] Nile#1441
Get the tons of unemployed American citizens to pick fruit.


[28-Oct-18 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't want to


[28-Oct-18 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
nor do most of them live close enough to a farm to pick fruit anyway


[28-Oct-18 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
if I remember right rural areas have the lowest unemployment in the US


[28-Oct-18 06:32 PM] Nile#1441
"they don't want to" is the most western problem I've ever heard


[28-Oct-18 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
well, they're also shitty workers


[28-Oct-18 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
compared to the migrant farm-workers who are reliable


[28-Oct-18 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem for american workers is they arent motivated sicne there's almost no benefit and the pay doesnt afford thme anything


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
for migrant farm workers it's a substantial quality of life improvement


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
for americans it's no better


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, i voted for pres today


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most business dont actually want to pay employees but since thye have to  thye pay th elowest thye possibly can


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Nile#1441
So people would rather be homeless than work


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] Nile#1441
Fucking yikes


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I voted for Fernando Haddad, despite him being mostly the underdog


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
more like homeless people don't live near farms


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think he'll win, but at least he won't be suffering a landslide defeat, i think


[28-Oct-18 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most homeless people are in cities not small farmign towns


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the show of support that matters


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] Nile#1441
So why don't they move out to greener pastures


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd be better if we made it so being homeless = death


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] Nile#1441
It's not like they have anything to leave behind


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because most of thme dont have vehicles either and its a long drive tot he enarest farmign town


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
fear of death is what keeps most people working and it's why the system works so well


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf Lemon


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] Nile#1441
lmao @LemonDrop


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you need money to survive and that drives people to work


[28-Oct-18 06:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
tis why captialism works


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
because transportation is a freedom that the homeless cannot afford


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
they are essentially locked out of mobility


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but homeless people haked the system


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] Nile#1441
You'd work out great as an autocrat


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they learned you can actually not work and still survive


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just barely


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know if you ever read titles like _The Grapes Of Wrath_


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I am not surprised Lemon is turning to neoliberal quackery, tbh


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but they do go over this stuff


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
(as much as Steinbeck was a lying hypocrite)


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean it's true


[28-Oct-18 06:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are naturally lazy


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we take the path of least resistance


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but our survival instinct is strong


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
need something to motivate everyone


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt help that msot of the time the mayors of the towns and the police force usually push policies to keep thme form moving on to greener pastures as well


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
lots of homeless people do die anyway


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean they should


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean being without work is pretty much a death sentence


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
as it should be


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
without that no one would work


[28-Oct-18 06:37 PM] Nile#1441
@prism stryder(intexda) I can sort of understand why that may be


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
so if you're incapable of working then you shouldn't even exist


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
got it


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what use are you if you cannot preform any function


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what's next of Lemon's comments


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds kind of comunist dictator of you lemon.


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
someone of that quality would be a vegetable anyways


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
since pretty much everyone has the capacity to do something


[28-Oct-18 06:38 PM] Nile#1441
😂


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] Nile#1441
B-but work is hard!


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if steven hawking can work then you can too

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[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Hey >:c


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] Nile#1441
:op:


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl love to work but no oen will hire me


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ye I mean such transitional times exist


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not like you need to be employeed 100% of the time


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] Nile#1441
Why won't they hire you


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it should be a goal


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
your idea of unemployment doesn't account for that


[28-Oct-18 06:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure it does


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
it's basically "if you don't have work you just die"


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just don't want people living the majority of their life without work


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well most places want unrealistic amounts of experience for any given job


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
mcdonalds


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seeign as i dont have said unrealistic experience, thye wont hire me


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**Work or get exterminated by the AI dictatorship. Obey.**

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[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
More like get exterminated anyways


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that's later


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
fun fact: mcdonalds pretty much won't hire you unless you're a teenager


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] Nile#1441
Do you live in the city @prism stryder(intexda)


[28-Oct-18 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Also yeah mcdonalds is weird


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they won't hire you if you're overqualified


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] Nile#1441
Most people I see complain about "unrealistic experience" are city folk, tbh


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they just want poor immigrants who don't bitch about not being paid anything more than minimum wage


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it exists in toher places too


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus they know that's the cheapest way to do it


[28-Oct-18 06:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are only a bit more cheap than robots at this point for food service so it's hard


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] Nile#1441
How much experience do you need to say, work retail? Or be a garbage man


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] Nile#1441
Not much


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue i have are the onyl places hiring here are fast food and trucking jobs


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
no, that's not mcdonalds' target


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
mcdonalds wants to hire high schoolers


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not really a terrible thing anyways


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
most fast food places only want to hire high schoolers


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fast food places generlly go for younger people as employees


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
makin a bit of extra moni during highschool


[28-Oct-18 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
what if it means your grades suffer?


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well that'd be dumb


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
do it during summer


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since teenagers dont know many of the employee laws


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye can knwo this stuff but mroe often than not thye dont do that type of research


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] Nile#1441
Hell you can be a garbage man, all you need is a high school diploma


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] Nile#1441
At least here


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 06:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's plenty of jobs out there


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus there's many jobs no one wants to do


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can look into that but i havent seen any job wanteds for garbage men


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
might not be glorious but there always are


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Nile#1441
'cuz I mean hey, if push comes to shove I'd have to do it.


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] Nile#1441
Ideally I'll go learn a trade if I want a comfortable paycheck


[28-Oct-18 06:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the world is in need of people with higher education and skill like that too


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] Nile#1441
Jobs for plumbing and electrical work here often start at $25 an hour :Upvote:


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's why they make so much money


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm learning HVAC in college right now on a pell grant so i'll hopefully land a job or atleast soem offerings ocne i graduate


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there will never be enough engineers lol


[28-Oct-18 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least im not going into horrifyingly crippling student debt


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
student debt is just propagated fear really


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] Nile#1441
Better to do that than take up a useless course and be broke


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's nothin to worry about if you plan properly


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
stupid people who make dumb decisions whine about it cus they didn't think


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] Nile#1441
I hate debt, I'd rather not owe anyone anything if I can stop it.


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also cant afford medical or dental


[28-Oct-18 06:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people with degrees will make more money on average so really if you're like most people, a degree will help you make a good living and pay off the debt


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also most jobs give you that sort of thing lol


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
as part of compensation


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HA! the minimum requirement for them giving you those beneifts is a 30 hour work week


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most jobs these days onyl give you 28 hour work weeks


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Well yes


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
40 hour weeks are the norm


[28-Oct-18 06:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what I've always worked lol


[28-Oct-18 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most companies these days give you just 1 hour under the minimum so thye dont have to give you benefits


[28-Oct-18 06:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah https://www.bls.gov/emp/images/ep_chart_001.png

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[28-Oct-18 06:48 PM] Nile#1441
If I were to go into plumbing that's an easy 40 hour week


[28-Oct-18 06:48 PM] Nile#1441
Plus overtime on some days


[28-Oct-18 06:49 PM] Nile#1441
Why does the median weekly earnings go down for doctoral degree owners?


[28-Oct-18 06:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
prob cus they're doing specialized stuff


[28-Oct-18 06:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or working on a phd or something idk


[28-Oct-18 06:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or maybe it's just the jobs which require a doctoral degree just pay less


[28-Oct-18 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really doesnt help that a lot of politicians right now want those benefits permadead


[28-Oct-18 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
note that that doesn't account for "people not employed and not looking for work"


[28-Oct-18 06:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 06:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus those are useless people


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] Nile#1441
😂


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
ah yes, I too wish my grandparents were dead


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well yeah


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also retired people


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is an obvious reason why you'd leave that out


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is a study on how much people make in jobs


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people not in jobs aren't going to be making anything naturally


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and most people who have retired have worked all their life


[28-Oct-18 06:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like their reward


[28-Oct-18 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people in retirement deserve death as their reward, got it


[28-Oct-18 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

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[28-Oct-18 06:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I never said that


[28-Oct-18 06:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
their reward for working is life


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is how retirement is funded is through social security, politicians want that dead


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you choose never to work through your actual prime portion of your life you are just being a detriment to humanity


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
consuming resources and not producing anything


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
net drain on everyone else's hard work


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
that's what humans do, though


[28-Oct-18 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
from an evolutionary standpoint, we exist for the purpose of reproducing


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
not doing work


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
work helps us reproduce better


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we exist for banging like rabbits


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we need to do things like research to figure out how to create the AI overloard


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and to do that we need scientists and engineers


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and for those people to do their jobs they need all their other needs tended to by other specializations


[28-Oct-18 06:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people who do plumbing, make shelter, create food, etc


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all for the same goal


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fix their air conditioners when they're stupid


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the only reason why we have scientists now is because other people can do everything else


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it lets them focus on something specific and not worry about the other billion things in life


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
specialization is the key to success in a species with a limited mental capacity like ours


[28-Oct-18 06:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no one can be good at everything


[28-Oct-18 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is if you never give people a chance to work and thne jsut denoucne thme as useless then you jsut eradicated 90% of your work force


[28-Oct-18 06:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they have a chance


[28-Oct-18 06:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's more like if they're homeless for many years they clearly aren't trying to get work


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
homeless people try to get jobs constantly


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Things exist out there which try and help homeless people get work


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] ononim#8141
You continue to be dumb as brick aren't ypu huh


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but some people just don't want to


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why is it so hard for you people to admit that some people want to just do nothing and drain our resources


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
is it that difficult to say that some homeless people are indeed trash


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't mean that they don't deserve to exist


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it kinda does


[28-Oct-18 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically you want to do nothing and be a drain on oru resources then?


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
that is a non-sequitur


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
it does not follow


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure it does


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they have no purpose


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
referencing what you said earlier, job specialization is actually a huge problem


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
it means that once employment categories are eliminated by mechanization or automation, that people who worked in that field now have no employment prospects


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
YOu too, have no purpose, my ai worshipping friend


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 06:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that is inevidable though byte


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
way back when a LOt of homeless people would have been factory workers, this changed when they were replaced by fuckign robots


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans will be made useless by AI and computers


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no matter what you do this will be true some day


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you want to create generalists and polymaths


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
therefore thye are given no chance at work


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
specialization is again needed so people can focus on one task and be the best at it


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because robots took their jobs


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
people are not computers


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
robots will take everyone's jobs and there's nothing we can do about that


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
computers are good to perform one task and be the best at it


[28-Oct-18 06:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
some people simply don't have the mental capacity to be better than a machine at anything


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
people are messy and don't fit a strict mold like that


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sow hats the point of robtos when peopel are gone?


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
That's for them to decide


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah good quote from some guy somewhere


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
robots will do to humans what cars did to horses


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except thye cant decide because th epeople programmed thme for specific tasks


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
horses used to be very useful


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
transportation and other stuff like that


[28-Oct-18 07:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
now horses are kinda just like a pet or something to be admired because cars and vehicles completely rendered them useless


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
technology does this to all things


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and elarning AI tends to be immobile


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
here's hoping we do the same for livestock


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye it'll happen to livestock too


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and humans eventually


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the final jobs to go will be that of research and science


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
high level abstract human-ey things


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne the cars universe was born


[28-Oct-18 07:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things that fully utilize what we are


[28-Oct-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our last move was puttignt h eleanring AI into self driving cars


[28-Oct-18 07:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah people aspire to be computers


[28-Oct-18 07:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most people don't wanna admit it tho


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our routines and how we specialize are very orderly and computer-like


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn really want to be a computer, i like having a sense of taste and touch


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people seek maximum efficiency and perfection in all things


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
andf smell


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no you don't


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes i do


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you just think you do


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you just don't know anything different


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i do therefore i do


[28-Oct-18 07:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't think it works like that


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] ononim#8141
>people want X


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] ononim#8141
>I don't


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] ononim#8141
>no no no you just don't know it :)))


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they don't


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like drugs


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you ask someone who's addicted if they want to stop of course they'll say no


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i eman having a robot arm would be kinda cool but i;d rather jsut be human


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but they do not know the clarity they lack


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the understanding etc


[28-Oct-18 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
`if you ask someone who's addicted if they want to stop of course they'll say no`


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
are you retarded?


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
:^)


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically beign human is an addiction?


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
unsurprising too


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
your senses flood your brain with chemicals which get you addicted to their sensations


[28-Oct-18 07:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you like good smells because it releases things which reward your brain into it


[28-Oct-18 07:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but really smell is just a sensory input


[28-Oct-18 07:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there should be no real distinction between good/bad smells


[28-Oct-18 07:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
of course this all stems from primitive humans not having a higher level brain so they needed some basic reward system to teach them what is good/bad


[28-Oct-18 07:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but now you could just get some data from your nose saying what you're breathing is toxic without such a painful and unpleasant physical/mental reaction to it


[28-Oct-18 07:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just pointless


[28-Oct-18 07:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not to mention these senses now betray us heavily as technology advancement renders them useless in the enviornment they were trained in


[28-Oct-18 07:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like sugar = good to our body due to it being found in fruits


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but now it's just exploited to get people to buy tasty things with no nutritional value


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Just to make sure I have shit to back me up I just googled it and I have sources from e.g. drugabuse.gov and the UK NHS, Psychology Today, ...


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Addicts want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
They just don't think they can


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Clearly you don't want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"but it tastes so goood" -everyone


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not how it works


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[28-Oct-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
you seem to fundamentally misunderstand what it means to "want to stop"


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Perhaps you mean something else by it


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
it means "they don't want to keep spending money/time on it and are aware of the negative consequences"


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think it takes realization of what you're doing is bad to want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
they _do_ realize it


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
they _know_ it's bad for them


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soem addictions cant be curbed without serious help from outside sources


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
they _want_ to quit


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for example people do weed and come up with crazy justifications of how it's fine for you and etc to continue their psychological addiction


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they don't want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus they're retarded


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about weed


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm talking about things like drinking and smoking cigarettes


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and meth


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
meth, xanax, etc.


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am pretty sure most people don't want to stop drinking


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
alcoholics do


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
maybe some


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again I think it takes understanding


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or desire


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if they don't care then they won't want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or of course if they don't know


[28-Oct-18 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
let's say that they are self-aware and do care


[28-Oct-18 07:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd ask why they started drinking in the first place in that case


[28-Oct-18 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
if they recognize the harm that the addiciton causes and do not want to keep doing it is that not sufficient reason to say that "they want to stop"


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean yea in that case they will want to


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
okay


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
because


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that is what I'm talking about


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] ononim#8141
>LD talking about things he knows shit all about


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] ononim#8141
Must be tuesday


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm talking about people being too dumb to realize


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the example was brought up in regards to human senses


[28-Oct-18 07:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most people don't realize these are bad sensations for you


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soem smokers do it because thye want to die but thye dont want to pull a trigger or hang themselves


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so they don't want to stop


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
that's ridiculous


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it's so much easier to buy a gun and shoot yourself


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
than it is to battle cancer for years


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people don't want to shoot themselves


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I wouldn't


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
very impure way to die


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is but soemtiems it;s also about courage and the willingness to got horugh with it


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
you could also just overdose on opioids


[28-Oct-18 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
completely painless death


[28-Oct-18 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
access is also a factor


[28-Oct-18 07:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
to suicide properly I'd need at least one giant pony


[28-Oct-18 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that raises questions


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suicidal tendencies are varied and insane to degrees


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean I don't want to suicide, it's illogical


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
yet by your logic it's logical


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but if I were going to there's particular ways I'd want to do it to satisfy my desires


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
because humans are dumb and computers are superior


[28-Oct-18 07:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that doesn't mean I'm gonna kms


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computer can kill me tho that's fine


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
no but it means your existence isn't justified


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers don't exist to the point to replace us yet


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so I'm still needed in this world


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I imagine it wouldn't be much worse off without you


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think it would


[28-Oct-18 07:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
who knows how far we'd be set back :^)


[28-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
after all no one would create the AI worship cult


[28-Oct-18 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
people have been worshipping AI since before you were born


[28-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I must find such people


[28-Oct-18 07:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't see any of them here :(


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i liek the ghost int he shell route of puttign brains into artificial bodies


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also spider tanks


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
honestly I find your lack of appreciation for the humanities disturbing


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
big blue spider tanks


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
evidently you have some


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but it's incredibly diminished


[28-Oct-18 07:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Why disturbing


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with A.I. and computers in general is thye arent programmed for unpredictable though


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
u fuk


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
because you don't really care about other people


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye face a problem with too many variables thye get stuck


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
don't talk about ai pls it'll give me an aneurism


[28-Oct-18 07:22 PM] Deleted User#0000
I worship Celestia through a computer monitor, isn't that the same thing?


[28-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
machine learning is litterally designed to generalize problems such that the unknown can be processed


[28-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
machine learning also isn't programmed past the initial structure


[28-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you give it a problem out of its domain it'll fail of course


[28-Oct-18 07:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but within the trained domain it can pretty much do anything even if its never seen it before


[28-Oct-18 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, the rpoblem is humans think and figure out solutions outside of their domain all the time


[28-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no not really


[28-Oct-18 07:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we are trained on data such that we can handle problems in new domains


[28-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's a slight degree of bounds-breaking but most people not pushing the edge of human knowledge simply just learn to do things that have been established for many moons


[28-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI can learn to do a task even if there are no rules on how to do it too just as humans do


[28-Oct-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
humans come with pre-trained neural models


[28-Oct-18 07:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like if a human wants to learn to drive a car


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they can figure it out with no training


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ai can too


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>he's still insisting on worshipping AI


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but if the A.I. crashes the car cvhances are thye die with the car


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why does Lemon always resort to this topic


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
wat


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] Deleted User#0000
I'll admit, he's a good preacher


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if humans crash the car the human has a higher chance of dying lmao


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers are much more resistant to death


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they aint no flimsy meatbag


[28-Oct-18 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if you put an A.I. into a car are you goign to put it into a driving robot or the car itself?


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
car itself


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's just a hypothetical anyways


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then if the car crashes the A.I. gets destroyed int he crash


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you're taking it much too litterally


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also no not really


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] Deleted User#0000
The AI prophet equivalent of Saint Paul


[28-Oct-18 07:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if a black box can survive a plane crashing into the ground at 400mph I think an AI core can survive a simple car crash


[28-Oct-18 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
andf without humans that A.I. core is stuckt here with no oen to fetch and repair it


[28-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you know robots can interact with the physical world


[28-Oct-18 07:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
crazy concept I know


[28-Oct-18 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but in your logical world once that box is in the craHS IT BECOEMS USELESS AND the other robtos write it off


[28-Oct-18 07:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
nothing a human can do is out of reach of what computers may be able to do some day


[28-Oct-18 07:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
idk what on earth you're trying to argue


[28-Oct-18 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I think that there is a significant step remaining and that's toward biology


[28-Oct-18 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
computers are incredibly wasteful and inefficient machines


[28-Oct-18 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
biological units are remarkably efficient but not much good at computation


[28-Oct-18 07:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just remember kids, the robots can do flips already and you can't


[28-Oct-18 07:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj34o4hN4I>


[28-Oct-18 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
robots and humans are better paired together


[28-Oct-18 07:31 PM] Deleted User#0000
"Saint LemonDrop, Apostle of the Neural Networks"


[28-Oct-18 07:31 PM] Deleted User#0000
Praise the Algorithm


[28-Oct-18 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
the other thing is that biological units evade the negative consequences of entropy by reproduction


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
computers can't do that


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure they can


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in theory a computer can do anything a human can


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
okay


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a computer is made of the same physical matter we are so there is no real difference in capability


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in theory


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
execution is different than theory


[28-Oct-18 07:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is like basic AI philosophy


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
please tell me how a computer today can make a copy of its silicon so that it doesn't permanently lose its capability due to radioactivity or unpredictable energy surges


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what do you mean


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
biological units can do this!


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that makes no sense


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers don't have such problems


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
yes they do


[28-Oct-18 07:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you should know better


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
say it with me byte


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
redundancy


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right also if a solar flare powerful enough to knowck technology out hits the earth then your robot empire is screwed


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
redundancy has a precondition: that there was more than one to begin with


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
which begs the question


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
it's circular logic


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it works fine for us now


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] Deleted User#0000
Aren't algorithms vulnerable to viruses tho


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also that's not 100% true


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed. Plus, machines can be hacked.
For there to be absolutely no hackers for your society to work, there must be no humans.


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
see computers are magical


[28-Oct-18 07:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can write a program to 2 locations at the same time


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and poof, redundancy


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's always a chance for failure but same goes for humans


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] Deleted User#0000
I mean, programs


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about information redundancy


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm talking about hardware redundancy


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just build multiple copies of the same computer


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we do that already and call them servers


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
okay, but how will the computers build copies of themselves


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lack of humans also means no  one to repair the robtos if thye face a problem they themselves cannot repair


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
same way we do


[28-Oct-18 07:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they'll get the blueprints and assemble the required materials


[28-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also intexda friend


[28-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
at this point AI will be of that or much beyond human intelligence


[28-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there'd be nothing they need a human for that they can't do themselves


[28-Oct-18 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like resotring the power grid when all of them get wiped out by a power outage?


[28-Oct-18 07:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
batteries exist you know


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and those wear out


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
any good superintelligent AI would not be powered by 1 source of energy


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
my theory is that if sapient computation power becomes available, it will die before it can ever figure out how to reproduce the way every other biology has been able to


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
do humans die when you don't get food once a day


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
course not


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Silicon is much rarer than carbon, i'm not sure we can make as much computer mass as Lemon claims we can


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even computers today are immune from power outages p much


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no but pwoer outages can last for days or weeks at a time


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
every big server company is going to be powered by UPSes and backup generators


[28-Oct-18 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
humans are much more energy efficient than computers


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the entire power grid could go offline but the servers dun care


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they need to stay online too to avoid data loss


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the servers need the electricity to run


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or just clean shutdown before they lose power fully


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not really concerned about power absences interrupting computation


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
power is just not a concern


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again we already have plenty of solutions to uninterruptable power


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
My concern is radioactivity


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
and electromagnetic interference


[28-Oct-18 07:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers are also designed around this today


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
they are not


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for example look at probes


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
radiation hardened cpus


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and redundancy in the cpus


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also of course things like error correction


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah btut he probes arent running or buildign other robots


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a probe cannot risk radiation fucking it up and they get exposed to immense amounts of cosmic radiation


[28-Oct-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no amount of radiation hardening that can make a computer work close to a strong source of radiation


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's no amount of things that will protect a human from such things either


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
your argument is gay


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
its like saying hah I bet the ai won't survive if I throw it into the sun


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like yeah no shit things have limits


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
no; the difference is that humans can generally survive that


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no they cannot


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
robots are used in fact in place of humans in places of high radiation


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] Deleted User#0000
Also, can a computer program which received an input know when to stop running


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are too flimsy


[28-Oct-18 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
they'll get cancer but they will immediately live


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and so will a computer


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll flip some bits and fuck up its neural net but the network is so big that it'll just be dysfunctional


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but still "live"


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
probably outlive the human too lol


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] Deleted User#0000
without human intervention


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
computers also dont have any concept of herd immunity


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
bitch what on earth


[28-Oct-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if a computer virus gets int here and they dont have a software to protect thme thye are fucked


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what even lol


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
this is beyond operating systems


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>hacking neural networks >2018


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
u wish


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks don't do computer viruses


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hacking requires understanding


[28-Oct-18 07:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans cannot understand neural networks therefore we cannot create a virus for them


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not like nature has anything which could infect a computer too


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't create a virus to infect a neural network


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
that makes no sense


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
on earth viruses have evolved for billions of years


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
that said, neural networks can be damaged


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I mean you could kinda


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you could have it like a real world virus


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
by overfitting them or training them incorrectly


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
get it to alter the neural net to reproduce something


[28-Oct-18 07:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's just like what and why


[28-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
anyways I think computers can survive plenty in radiation hard enviornments


[28-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most people see computers as weaker cus the cheapo desktop ones everyone has access to aren't made with such reliability in mind


[28-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but when it comes to spacecraft it's def a major concern for that reason exactly


[28-Oct-18 07:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no way to upload new code if it goes fucky a billion miles from earth


[28-Oct-18 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I think silicon is fundamentally not a useful material for the continuation of computational ability


[28-Oct-18 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
our current technology is just not energy efficient enough and is very difficult to copy


[28-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAD750> like this is the one used in Curiosity currently


[28-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it says it can withstand 1000 Gy of radiation exposure


[28-Oct-18 07:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so I think it's plenty good


[28-Oct-18 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
are you going to address the efficiency thing or not


[28-Oct-18 07:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also for the record 100 Gy is usually fatal to humans


[28-Oct-18 07:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like instantly


[28-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Current technology doesn't matter too much


[28-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
better things will be invented in time


[28-Oct-18 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
do you agree that biology is a useful starting point


[28-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in some ways yes


[28-Oct-18 07:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there are some very clever things with how little energy the brain uses


[28-Oct-18 07:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my fuzzy logic teacher was talkin about that and how they're trying to use such concepts to make neural network activation functions use less energy


[28-Oct-18 07:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but the body is also just a clusterfuck


[28-Oct-18 07:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the way in which we consume food is horribly energy inefficient compared to computers for example


[28-Oct-18 07:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers utilize almost all the energy goin in whereas we only use about 10% from the food we eat


[28-Oct-18 07:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so sure humans are only 100W


[28-Oct-18 07:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but we're actually consuming like 1000W worth of energy lol


[28-Oct-18 07:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well no I think that's wrong


[28-Oct-18 07:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like we're using even less but ye most that 100W is getting wasted


[28-Oct-18 07:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not counting how much is just not even processed and excreted as waste, it's a hard metric to just say because there's so many ways in which you can classify the energy potential of food


[28-Oct-18 07:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most times I think people go by just what is released in a calorimeter


[28-Oct-18 07:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Anyways yes biology has some neat solutions to problems which is why neural networks kinda resemble how neurons work, or why things like genetic algorithms work that way


[28-Oct-18 07:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's not something to be copied fully as there are many bad things to it too


[28-Oct-18 07:57 PM] Archonix#5562
that comparison isn't valid


[28-Oct-18 07:57 PM] Archonix#5562
your computer doesn't seek out energy sources, convert them to useful energy and dispose of the waste


[28-Oct-18 07:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Sure it does


[28-Oct-18 07:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it puts solar panels up


[28-Oct-18 07:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if more energy density is needed fission is always a thing too which does actually have waste products


[28-Oct-18 07:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the thing is computers don't need such a primitive method of gathering energy, plant-based life was the first sort of thing to thrive even in terms of biology due to how obvious and efficient an energy source the sun is


[28-Oct-18 07:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
animal life is just parasitic and etc


[28-Oct-18 07:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
without plants we'd surely perish but plants can exist fine without humans or any animal life


[28-Oct-18 07:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
same goes for computers


[28-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in the future too I expect more dank power generation to be created anyways like some sort of fusion but that's just wishful thinking


[28-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
any biological things of course cannot modify themselves to take in energy in other forms and that limits us


[28-Oct-18 08:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we generate so much power and can hardly manage to feed our own population despite that


[28-Oct-18 08:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even your computer is using like 3x the energy consumption of your body and there's def more computers than people out there


[28-Oct-18 08:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
quite ironic


[28-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
no, we can feed our own population


[28-Oct-18 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
we just don't because it's not profitable for the people who make the food


[28-Oct-18 08:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for now


[28-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the sustainability capacity of earth right now is 10 billion


[28-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we could support a lot more 100W humans than that on electricity


[28-Oct-18 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
it can without a doubt be increased, the problem is that the worst offenders would not dare give up their hoards


[28-Oct-18 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or we could just, you know, stop reproducing so much


[28-Oct-18 08:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that too


[28-Oct-18 08:06 PM] Mikey#7286
The population is estimated to reach 10B by the end of the century lol


[28-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but you're missing the point


[28-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that even now we can power many more people by electricty than food


[28-Oct-18 08:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Politics with 🍋 💧  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg
Mitchell and Webb - Kill The Poor
Why not?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/owI7DOeO_yg/hqdefault.jpg


[28-Oct-18 08:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our bodies are just incompatible


[28-Oct-18 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
well, you can't power a human by moving their legs back and forth to store energy


[28-Oct-18 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
electricity is just a type of work


[28-Oct-18 08:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all just energy


[28-Oct-18 08:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our body only accepts it in a very specific form


[28-Oct-18 08:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
energy stored in chemical bonds


[28-Oct-18 08:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can convert electrical energy to chemical totally but you lose a lot by doing such things, in the end getting the major forms of energy to humans is just never viable


[28-Oct-18 08:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even in nature


[28-Oct-18 08:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so much energy goes into plants but so much is lost in that process especially when we get to processing it


[28-Oct-18 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45893549

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The battle to curb our appetite for concrete
Reducing our use of sand and cement cuts down on CO2 emissions and lessens the impact on the environment.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/7903/production/_103997903_gettyimages-838475528.jpg


[28-Oct-18 08:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so you wanna eat concrete


[28-Oct-18 08:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
:>


[28-Oct-18 08:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans be shit


[28-Oct-18 08:12 PM] Deleted User#0000
Proof that God exists https://www.quora.com/Can-God-solve-the-Halting-Problem

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Can God solve the Halting Problem? - Quora
God can solve the Halting problem because God can solve all problems. God does this by miracle. God does not have to be consistent. (Neither do people): “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philo...


[28-Oct-18 08:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 08:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not even the AI god can solve the halting problem


[28-Oct-18 08:13 PM] Deleted User#0000
Ha! Gotcha


[28-Oct-18 08:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean it's just a fact of nature


[28-Oct-18 08:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
halting problem is an impossibility, like a paradox


[28-Oct-18 08:14 PM] Deleted User#0000
So algorithms can't solve certain paradoxes


[28-Oct-18 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a mathematical proof


[28-Oct-18 08:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just math


[28-Oct-18 08:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the algorithm can solve it ez


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it can just look at it and be like this is impossible


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the halting problem is undecidable for turing machines


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
and most computer languages can be reduced to turing machines


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it states that you cannot make a computer that can tell if a program halts or not


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not that you can't understand that


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
well, no


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
it says that you can't decide if a turing machine analogue will halt on its input except by running it


[28-Oct-18 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
if the program is representable with e.g. a pushdown automaton then you _can_ decide


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] Deleted User#0000
So, if humans went extinct, how could computers manage themselves


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well yes


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all modern computers tho are turing machines


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
aint no one cares bout the rest


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
not all programs are turing machines


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for the most part they are


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yes specifically that is the condition


[28-Oct-18 08:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also I mean humans cannot understand the halting problem either


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Turing machines generalize all things


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a human brain can be represented with one


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
therefore humans suffer from the halting problem too


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we get by pretty fine so I think the AI will


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't see how that's really relevant that humans can't solve the halting problem


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody can


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a mathematical certainty


[28-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
math is dank like that


[28-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everything humans can do computers can to


[28-Oct-18 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
if math is so dank why don't you go solve the riemann hypothesis


[28-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there is no argument for 'what will they do when we're not around'


[28-Oct-18 08:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because the answer is always 'everything and more'


[28-Oct-18 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
go on


[28-Oct-18 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll wait here


[28-Oct-18 08:19 PM] Deleted User#0000
an answer based on "faith", tbf


[28-Oct-18 08:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not faith


[28-Oct-18 08:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's fact


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in math there is no need for belief


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things can simply be true or not


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Archonix#5562
"computers will replace humans" is not a mathematical proof.


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
of course


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Archonix#5562
it's a statement of belief.


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers having the potential for all the capabilities of humans tho is a proof


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Archonix#5562
no it isn't


[28-Oct-18 08:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's been proved many decades ago anyways


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in an even more general sense


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] Deleted User#0000
Can they make emotional clop art tho


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
in theory


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theory and execution are 2 wildly different thigns though


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not really


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] Deleted User#0000
How, if they don't have emotions nor can feel desires


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure they can


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in theory i coudl write and direct a successful movie


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you can then a computer can


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in execution i;m pretty sure not


[28-Oct-18 08:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
computers have already replaced some people.


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not that emotions will likely do a computer much good


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] Deleted User#0000
:^)))


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's entierly possible to have them as a computer


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no reason that a computer could not have constructs mimicking human emotions


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the Turing test in fact is all about just that


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like proving to people with cold hard logic that if they can't tell the difference between a human and a computer then there is no difference


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus normies can't understand


[28-Oct-18 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
whether it would is where theory and reality diverge


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Deleted User#0000
clop art is not based on logic tho


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Deleted User#0000
as well as normie art


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
somewhere deep down it is


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
physical possibility does not translate to practical usefulness


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all things are based on logic


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Deleted User#0000
or music, poetry, etc.


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even in practical terms that's wrong


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
music is heavily mathematic


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's possible to calculate an arbitrary hexadecimal digit of pi, at any place you want


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
but it's not practical


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Deleted User#0000
that's a quite hazardous assumption


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's the truth


[28-Oct-18 08:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
music theory is math


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
everything in music tends to have beautiful mathematical relations


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all the notes and chords and progression of things


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not everything in life is math


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
no


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
down to a theoretical degree


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
everything in life is math


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
math can represent anything


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean we can't enjoy it as something else


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's why math is perfect


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I hate math


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
we don't have to explain everything using mathematical relationships


[28-Oct-18 08:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
go figure


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Deleted User#0000
can you build a program that has a good taste in music tho


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
in theory, yes


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that will become a reality much sooner than theory


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
neural networks that make art and music are becoming a thing even today


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Deleted User#0000
what if it likes Despacito and i don't


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
my brain does not and can not understand things that have a set answer


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
then you'll love quantum physics


[28-Oct-18 08:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
indeed


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I will crush every computer trying to replace artists


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you'll fail


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
what if they're better than you?


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers within your lifetime will create better art than humans


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
consistently in any style


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
then there's no value in art


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
no value in anything


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
now you're realizing the truths of the world


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
there's still aesthetic value to humans


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
our brains like that


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
computers learning to please humans is kinda funny to me


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like this combination of pixels satisfies the human


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
lol


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
nah, they won't think in terms of pixels


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
they will think in terms of shapes and rasterize it only at the end


[28-Oct-18 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
that's how humans think


[28-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Deleted User#0000
so yuo're saying that critics can be replaced by computers as well


[28-Oct-18 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
in theory


[28-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Deleted User#0000
what if these computers don't like pony fanart at all


[28-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Deleted User#0000
are they wrong or not


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah if you look at like style transfer AI right now which usually uses autoencoders it's pretty cool


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks forming an opinion about something does not say anything about right or wrong


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
DeepDream is something like that too


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khuj4ASldmU>


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
and more importantly doesn't stop them from drawing/doing/performing it


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is pretty good art tho to me


[28-Oct-18 08:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
looks like a human painted or did it


[28-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Deleted User#0000
also can we build programs that evaluate the programs that evaluate art


[28-Oct-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
in theory


[28-Oct-18 08:30 PM] Deleted User#0000
what if they don't agree with eachother


[28-Oct-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean any one of them is right or wrong


[28-Oct-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
see above


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
`neural networks forming an opinion about something does not say anything about right or wrong`


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks are not like the rest of computing


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
right/wrong is arbitrary


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Deleted User#0000
then what are they good for


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
the rest of computing is pretty much about absolute mathematical realities


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but when a superintelligence forms an opinion on philosophy I'd be inclined to trust it over my own


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cus it knows much better than I


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks are much mushier


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and are pretty much designed for forming opinions


[28-Oct-18 08:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a neural network overcomes the brittle nature of normal algorithms


[28-Oct-18 08:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they can generalize an entire domain of a problem


[28-Oct-18 08:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
handling cases not even considered by perhaps a programmer working on it


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they also can learn to solve a problem in their own way


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
if programs can't decide what is good/wrong, then lawyers will remain human


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks can certainly decide what's good and wrong


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
and judges


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
traditional Ai needs humans to find patterns and stuff in problems to find a solution to them which works most the time


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure what you're trying to say


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but an AI can analyze a problem itself and find a solution too


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
the decision they come to is their own


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it cuts out the need for a human as long as the human can reward good/bad behavior


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't mean a human would necessarily agree, it just means it is capable of deciding


[28-Oct-18 08:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
human gives it a task like


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
identify apples


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
then human shows it many objects, some apples, some not


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and the ai will learn which are apples and how to identify apples in the future


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] Deleted User#0000
So we should just submit to the program decision about, for example , the culprit of a crime?


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the AI will become so good at it too that it'll outpreform humans identifying apples even


[28-Oct-18 08:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is the funny thing


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
given the proper setup


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
not to a neural network at this stage


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll learn every tiny detail of what makes something an apple


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
the thing about neural networks is again that they are opinion-forming machines


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sometimes things we don't even consider


[28-Oct-18 08:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah neural networks need training


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you can make them come to the same conclusions a human would, but you need to provide them with the usual information that humans would consider


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and in opinion related things you're training it on human judgements in like a crime for example


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so it's more just kinda learning to be human in that case lol


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
without something like metalearning or just strong AI it cannot form an opinion of its own


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well


[28-Oct-18 08:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it can by looking at objective data which leads to hilarious results


[28-Oct-18 08:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/13/ai_roundup_131018/>


[28-Oct-18 08:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
part of this


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
the other thing is


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
neural networks can't really explain their reasoning


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
pretty much amazon tried to train the AI on who'd make good programmers for job recruiting


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and to their horror it punished being a woman


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is in reality true given the skills


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Deleted User#0000
lol


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but can't have no sexist ai forming its opinions about who's good at things


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Deleted User#0000
sexist AI


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] Deleted User#0000
redpilled AI


[28-Oct-18 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
however, the fact that neural networks can't explain their reasoning isn't really as much of an obstacle as you would think


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
because the reasoning is actually embedded in the neurons


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"For example, it preferred applications containing words more commonly found in men’s resumes such as “executed” or “captured” over words like “women’s”, according to Reuters."


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which makes sense


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it was looking based on objective data


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] Deleted User#0000
So men are superior to women, confirmed


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it knows saying you did a class in women's studies is a bad thing


[28-Oct-18 08:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
versus executing some solution to a problem


[28-Oct-18 08:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
woke as fuk


[28-Oct-18 08:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but yeah that's just an example, AI can learn "opinions" on its own when you feed it unbiased data but it scares people since it reflects cultural and societal realities


[28-Oct-18 08:40 PM] Deleted User#0000
lmao


[28-Oct-18 08:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not a sexist ai


[28-Oct-18 08:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's more like that's just the state of things


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that's what it learned


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more of a reflection of ourselves


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or like <https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist>


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] Deleted User#0000
eh


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ai didn't know what it was doin


[28-Oct-18 08:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it was just learning to respond in the way most the people talkin to it did


[28-Oct-18 08:42 PM] Deleted User#0000
so the human input is still decisive


[28-Oct-18 08:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in that case ye because human interaction was the training data


[28-Oct-18 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
the human input is the training model


[28-Oct-18 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
the neural network has no idea what society thinks about its reaction


[28-Oct-18 08:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it was learning to be a human meme on twitter


[28-Oct-18 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
you could have a social response input that was weighted super heavily to punish behavior perceived as sexist or racist


[28-Oct-18 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
and it would deter that kind of behavior


[28-Oct-18 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
(because that's what humans do)


[28-Oct-18 08:43 PM] Deleted User#0000
that's what happen when you do the training on 4chan


[28-Oct-18 08:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
pretty much ye


[28-Oct-18 08:44 PM] DevField#5162
It'd be pretty defunct, considering that realities are often labelled as sexist


[28-Oct-18 08:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
So poorly behaved humans will produce poorly behaved AIs, for now


[28-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in these cases ye


[28-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it just depends on what you feed it


[28-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like a child


[28-Oct-18 08:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just learns what you teach it


[28-Oct-18 08:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
That's weak AI in a nutshell


[28-Oct-18 08:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
strong AI is actually thinking for itself


[28-Oct-18 08:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
strong AI does not exist yet tho


[28-Oct-18 08:46 PM] Deleted User#0000
So in the future, we'll have an election between a liberal AI and a conservative AI, i guess


[28-Oct-18 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
strong AI depends on having computers with enough neurons to think for themselves and to already have a sufficiently pretrained model to be able to do so


[28-Oct-18 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
unlikely


[28-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like you'll be ded


[28-Oct-18 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
political criteria will be _much_ stranger


[28-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
strong AI will be the start of a technological singularity


[28-Oct-18 08:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we'll get no chance to enjoy the hilarity that would ensue in society as it'd quickly just do something crazy like destroy everything


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
if we don't go extinct by global warming in the meantime


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we may destroy ourselves before then


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
or by overpopulation


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but this I expect to happen within my lifetime


[28-Oct-18 08:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
high expectations, to be frank, but that's my ignorant opinion


[28-Oct-18 08:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
most professionals think it'll be soon too


[28-Oct-18 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
I can't wait for Futurama becoming the new Simpsons and the Simpsons becoming the new Flinstones too *(ironic smirk)*


[28-Oct-18 08:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence#Forecasts> for example


[28-Oct-18 08:51 PM] Deleted User#0000
mh


[28-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
images like this are funny too https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Classification_of_images_progress_human.png

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[28-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that being like image classification error of machine learning


[28-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
red line being human


[28-Oct-18 08:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
oof


[28-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Deleted User#0000
We were surrounded by stupid people, now we will be surronded by stupid people and AIs


[28-Oct-18 08:53 PM] Deleted User#0000
can't wait


[28-Oct-18 08:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 08:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things are gonna change a lot in the next 100 years


[28-Oct-18 08:54 PM] Deleted User#0000
i meant, stupid people and *stupid* AIs


[28-Oct-18 08:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
even if my desired ASI thing doesn't come to pass by then surely general intelligence will be mastered by computers in some degree


[28-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just has so many implications on society


[28-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
one I like to imagine is why interact with other humans when you can just do it with AI


[28-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just have a bunch of AI friends, or play against them in video games without networking


[28-Oct-18 08:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll pretty much eliminate the need for social contact with other humans


[28-Oct-18 08:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if that doesn't just fuck society right up alone then yeah


[28-Oct-18 08:57 PM] Deleted User#0000
press X to doubt


[28-Oct-18 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>AI friends


[28-Oct-18 09:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 09:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for all you know your best friend could be an AI


[28-Oct-18 09:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and if it was I doubt you'd complain


[28-Oct-18 09:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if they're your friend why does it matter


[28-Oct-18 09:04 PM] Deleted User#0000
I don't want an AI friend, I want an arrogant AI to fight with


[28-Oct-18 09:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can have those too


[28-Oct-18 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It matters because it's not a human being, and because it can be programmed if it allows you to.


[28-Oct-18 09:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so can you


[28-Oct-18 09:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that doesn't mean you can be by any human


[28-Oct-18 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I, personally, don't think AI can become a healthy substitute for people. But again, that might be just because AI is still primitive as is.


[28-Oct-18 09:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do


[28-Oct-18 09:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in time they'll be indistinguishable from people


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There might be something that inherently entices us to feel empathy for organic beings.


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soemday they will be I'robot


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] Deleted User#0000
I want an army of AI SJWs who control hundreds of tumblr pages


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye you can make that


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] Deleted User#0000
And use them politically


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd get me an AI waifu who can draw so they can make me lewd pone arts


[28-Oct-18 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, AI's in politics will be a massive issue


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] Deleted User#0000
And dominate the world


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
politics won't exist


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again this is all just hypothetical


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
our world cannot function with AGI even


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>politics won't exist


[28-Oct-18 09:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and soon after it'll collapse anyways when ASI is created


[28-Oct-18 09:13 PM] Deleted User#0000
Anyway, interesting stuff nonetheless


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ye


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, Lemon, since you claim politics won't exist, one must logically conclude from your argument that humanity, being political by nature, won't exist either


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yes


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's the idea


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, i ask...


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humanity will be destroyed


[28-Oct-18 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the point?


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I've been over this


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
continued existence is the only point


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] Deleted User#0000
🅱rogress


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye that


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, nobody's gonna be there to witness your utopia.


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
That's fine


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only a bunch of cockroaches and mice.


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll exist


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no biological life will exist most likely


[28-Oct-18 09:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in time


[28-Oct-18 09:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't see the AI logically wanting to leave earth until its been stripped of resources entierly


[28-Oct-18 09:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not sure tho, hard to know what it'd do


[28-Oct-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
planet of the apes but with robots


[28-Oct-18 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It feels like you haven't answered my question properly.


[28-Oct-18 09:17 PM] Deleted User#0000
Wrong, we will live on Mars together with Elon Musk


[28-Oct-18 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we will live in your utopia, eatignt he machines for sustenance


[28-Oct-18 09:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[28-Oct-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically what you want is transformers


[28-Oct-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be down with transformers existing


[28-Oct-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
proper transforemrs though


[28-Oct-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none fo tha tmicheal bay stuff


[28-Oct-18 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim you have to witness this, omg


[28-Oct-18 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Schopenhauer would have an instant aneurysm if he witnessed this.


[28-Oct-18 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me equatign it to transformers or lemon;s arguement?


[28-Oct-18 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lemon's justification for his AI utopia existing after humanity's demise


[28-Oct-18 09:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't need justification for the inevitable


[28-Oct-18 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean technically what hel;s describing is the transformers origin story of g1


[28-Oct-18 09:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
saying the sun will die one day is not something I need to witness to know


[28-Oct-18 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then why do you defend it?


[28-Oct-18 09:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because I want it to happen


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll make everything better


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How?


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
by removing humanity


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And replacing it with just another kind of it?


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a better kind


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
its an evolution


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Machines are not alive.


[28-Oct-18 09:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Why not


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Plus, i'm not sure if your utopia will be sustainable


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nor that it will live as long as you want to


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Now you're not answering the question lol


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl rather live with our transformer overlords


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Much less forever,


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll live forever


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Considering the scarcity of silicon.


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
answer the question lol


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'll have to replace its frame with a more effective substance.


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why are machines not alive


[28-Oct-18 09:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it will


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll be a thousand times smarter than humans


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it will survive


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For what purpose?


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
answer my question


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why are machines not alive


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine, machines could be considered alive by a certain margin, i concede.


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
good


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now answer mine.


[28-Oct-18 09:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not by any margin tho


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
by any definition of the word they're alive


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For what purpose should your AI utopia survive?


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for what purpose do you survive


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None at all.


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yet you do


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
answer that then you'll have your answer


[28-Oct-18 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm mostly indifferent to my existence. I just am, and there is no reason for it.


[28-Oct-18 09:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and so will the AI be


[28-Oct-18 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then why should it exist, too?


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lemon, please answer this question. For what purpose do we exist?


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have you read at least Camus?


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Also why you asking me that


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I already answered it long ago


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
we exist to exist


[28-Oct-18 09:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
very simple


[28-Oct-18 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because it's relevant to the question.


[28-Oct-18 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If we exist for the sake of it, then our existence is illogical.


[28-Oct-18 09:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
hardly


[28-Oct-18 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why hardly? I mean, it's not like the universe is a purely logical thing from a "created" standpoint.


[28-Oct-18 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
something is mroe stable than nothing?


[28-Oct-18 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why would it be?


[28-Oct-18 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know!


[28-Oct-18 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
existance isweird


[28-Oct-18 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Our world, then universe, is gonna die some day. It's inevitable.


[28-Oct-18 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why create an AI-governed utopia, then?


[28-Oct-18 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because we can?


[28-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
And then they go rogue and take over


[28-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Skynet style


[28-Oct-18 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
terminator is canon to reality


[28-Oct-18 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If anything, it's just gonna make it all end faster. Or the AI utopia will probably cease to exist in its current form and return to organic reproduction, because of the abundance of carbon, as i said.


[28-Oct-18 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not much will change in the grand scheme of things.


[28-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
But here I must say, progress happens.


[28-Oct-18 09:33 PM] Deleted User#0000
Why we have abandoned the nomad life?


[28-Oct-18 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well part of it lies with profit and cities


[28-Oct-18 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It does, surely, but i don't think we can change the laws of entropy to prevent the end of it all.


[28-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Deleted User#0000
It was not too bad to live as grug after all


[28-Oct-18 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
during the industrial era businesses dicovered it was more profitable to hosue people in cities and have them work in large populations


[28-Oct-18 09:34 PM] Deleted User#0000
except for 30 years average lifespan ofc


[28-Oct-18 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It wasn't too bad to live as grug, indeed, considering all the shit we are forced to live with in our advanced civilization.


[28-Oct-18 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the major problems started cropping up due to biplogy


[28-Oct-18 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humans werent emant to live in such density


[28-Oct-18 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more people became ill and died


[28-Oct-18 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where as when people lived on farms a good distance away fore ahcother illnesses in that farm tended only to spread to visitors of those farms


[28-Oct-18 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the residents there in


[28-Oct-18 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is part of why the blakc plague became such a huge catastrophe


[28-Oct-18 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mostly defend a better society because i think people should at least live a pleasant life before they face death.


[28-Oct-18 09:37 PM] Deleted User#0000
so rural farms saved humanity in those occasions


[28-Oct-18 09:38 PM] Deleted User#0000
while cities depopulated


[28-Oct-18 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the rural farms came before the indutrial era but yes people ont he farms were probably safer form illneses thna the people int he cities


[28-Oct-18 09:39 PM] Deleted User#0000
Fun fact: Rome was about 1,000,000 inhabitants in the 1st century AD


[28-Oct-18 09:39 PM] Deleted User#0000
After the Greco-Gothic war and the bubonic plague of the 6th century, the population dropped to some thousands


[28-Oct-18 09:40 PM] Deleted User#0000
Romans basically disappeared, for a while


[28-Oct-18 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>LemonDrop dropped from the convo


[28-Oct-18 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
populations can bounce bakc liek crazy but the denser a population the faster illness can spread


[28-Oct-18 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, expected, considering him.


[28-Oct-18 09:41 PM] Deleted User#0000
Can't stand the Greco-Roman discourse


[28-Oct-18 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and this was before vaccines were a thing


[28-Oct-18 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) Housing people in cities wasn't a product of the industrial era. It had been that way for thousand day of years for economic reasons. Since the 17th and 18th centuries even cities were packed to high density close to docks to concentrate the dock workers and the finished goods manufacturers who relied on shipping their material on boat. You can't we'll move an anvil from an idyllic country smithy to the dock 40 miles away. You had to do it as close to the dock as possible. The problem here arises that poor sanitation over all was harmful, not that man couldn't naturally bare high density population, we've been living in cities or around cities for thousands of years and we still survive as a species. Though the descendents of people that lived in those cities probably don't live anymore because of regular cholera outbreaks.


[28-Oct-18 09:42 PM] Deleted User#0000
They forgot the Roman secret: wash yourself regularly


[28-Oct-18 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let this be an aide to you: https://youtu.be/fLxHVF1uiOE


[28-Oct-18 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the Venetians surrounded their wells with sand with a screened metal wall that would filter rain water before it goes into the well, thus keeping it clean.


[28-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
they also surrounded the walls


[28-Oct-18 09:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
(of Constantinople)


[28-Oct-18 09:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the conversation just got far from interesting


[28-Oct-18 09:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
talkin about humans and silly stuff


[28-Oct-18 09:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
AIs > ponies > humans


[28-Oct-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a civilization of AI pony robots


[28-Oct-18 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nope, that's just because you can't talk about anything else, Lemon


[28-Oct-18 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whenever you argue about human issues, your arguments collapse like ice cream on a hot sunny day, and you force others to return to the AI dictatorship scenario


[28-Oct-18 09:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
You just don't understand


[28-Oct-18 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humans are experiencing poverty at an alarming rate" "*well robots woudl never facer poverty at an alarming rate*"


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
He still likes pony butts tho, so there's hope I guess


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Muh Hippodomus of Miletus


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's true because humans are flawed


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI would not be as flawed as humans


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and many problems in the world would cease to exist


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
why's it so hard for you to accept that there are better lifeforms out there than you


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Do you really see humans as the epitome of life


[28-Oct-18 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
why would AI not be as flawed as humans


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they could be


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but most likely not


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why though?


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
their construction eliminates many biological flaws


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
it depends on if you see them as flaws


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They would still have flaws, though.


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they have no emotion or desire to kill others of their own species since they'd be a collective consciousness


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but thne they have mechanical and programming flaws


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no lol


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ais are not programmed


[28-Oct-18 09:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and any mechanical flaws can be rectified by itself


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
their construction already is better than humans


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically you want warless ants?


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more resilient


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm seriously tired of talking about this shit, Lemon. It is literally the only topic you can ever talk about.


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yes


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's the only topic which matters


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
feel free to leave


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For the moment, AI is not at the level you think it is.


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I never said it was


[28-Oct-18 09:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this is for the future


[28-Oct-18 09:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If we are to create an AI utopia, if that is our ultimate purpose, then we have to make sure that it happens before the world ends due to resource starvation, then.


[28-Oct-18 09:51 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[28-Oct-18 09:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If it's just an inevitability and you're not inherently defending it, then i *can* understand, but the issue is that talking repeatedly about a single topic of still little relevance to human issues of now becomes tiring after a while


[28-Oct-18 09:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I have said before my stance is acceptance


[28-Oct-18 09:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I do think it's a good thing


[28-Oct-18 09:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so I do defend it too


[28-Oct-18 09:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is it a good thing?


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine, then. @LemonDrop LemonDrop, what do you think of historical materialism?


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just to breathe variety into this.


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
idk what that is


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And see if you're capable of talking about anything else.


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what happens if politicians decide to ban progress in AI sciences for the sake of making a quick easy buck?


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) don't interrupt my experiment.


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry


[28-Oct-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway


[28-Oct-18 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop historical materialism is the belief that society revolves around production of material stuff.


[28-Oct-18 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Historically, that society has evolved over time in its goals in regards to production and distribution of goods.


[28-Oct-18 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is, from what i remember off the top of my head from Marx.


[28-Oct-18 09:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Material factors per the social development and organization of society, as response to Hegel where in society evolves as conflict between groups and ideas corresponding. Very simplified description


[28-Oct-18 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mainly, Marx believed human consciousness *stemmed from* materialism rather than originating it.


[28-Oct-18 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aaaaand he ran away.


[28-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't say consciousness


[28-Oct-18 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hypothesis proven. Please click the thumbs up emoji for public review.

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[28-Oct-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
but certainly society and the idea of it


[28-Oct-18 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Certainly.


[28-Oct-18 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
archeologically, it tends to be the case that just knowing how food was made tells you basically all about a civilization


[28-Oct-18 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Have a free visualization:

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[28-Oct-18 10:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans are weird


[28-Oct-18 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I contend that you just don't care and label things that don't make sense to you as weird


[28-Oct-18 10:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
They'd make sense if they weren't a clusterfuck


[28-Oct-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean you hav difficulty understanding complexity, which naturally arises from a system that is capable of self-awareness.


[28-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Nah


[28-Oct-18 10:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it follows no logic


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI even with how much it can do is very simple at its core


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
all computers are in general


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
simplicity is the key to all things


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is unreasonable to expect AI to be simple.


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is at the base


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if its goal is to replace humans.


[28-Oct-18 10:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
complex systems arise out of it


[28-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything is simple if you go enuff to its base.


[28-Oct-18 10:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
except humans


[28-Oct-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Oct-18 10:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
If LD thinks the grand narrative principles of modern philosophy is hard to understand; wait until he learns about the post-modernists!


[28-Oct-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
He discounts any study of humans.


[28-Oct-18 10:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ye cus it's gay


[28-Oct-18 10:31 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Oct-18 10:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
comit being-towards-death


[28-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean some people might like it


[28-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but studying humans just seems pointless to me


[28-Oct-18 10:32 PM] LemonDrop#9571
perhaps something to be said for learning how to exist in a world dominated by them


[28-Oct-18 10:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I don't think that's as relevant anymore

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[28-Oct-18 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so... when do we get a UN style unity of tyrant leaders? Yeah, it would untimately collapse under the sheer distrust of eachother but still


[28-Oct-18 11:16 PM] Arvid#8335
I literally cannot take anything the conservatives say seriously anymore, they've become a fucking parody of themselves.


[28-Oct-18 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have become exactly what stalin became but for capitalism


[28-Oct-18 11:17 PM] Arvid#8335
All they do nowadays is ramp up fears about immigration and come up with idiotic conspiracy theories.


[28-Oct-18 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while eroding rights and benefits, and lowerign the normal people to basicaly slave class


[28-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's time for Socialism with American Characteristics. Dissolve the CEOs and legislate that every company draft their own constitution outlining employee ownership and structure of power as the employees see fit to organize. Or nuke all union-oriented laws and set the IWW free again.


[28-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
UNIONS WITH MEMBER OWNED HEALTH PLANS AGAIN


[28-Oct-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
UNIONS WITH MEMBER OWNED SHOPS


[28-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
THE PAST'S FUTURE MADE OURS AGAIN!


[28-Oct-18 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an end to right to work states


[28-Oct-18 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
"If you give me ten dollars a month of your thirty dollar an hour wage we'll help you out when you get cancer or break a leg and get you to a dentist."


[28-Oct-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cna live with that


[28-Oct-18 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw once upon a time we did have union-run health plans. Members would pool their money into a big fund and draw from it when they needed to. Then that got legislated out of existence to prioritize private health insurance.


[28-Oct-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
private health insurance is a menace


[28-Oct-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh even if i did find a job i live in a "right to work" state so thye coudl fire me within a day for no given reason


[28-Oct-18 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's fun


[28-Oct-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Teach people how to do more than one thing, make them viable and independent persons. Not strictly as a commodity to be traded to the present highest of most available bidder to be trained in the one specific task they're needed for but to be able to move about.


[28-Oct-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When private companies are a worse surveillance state than the state or anything else could be.


[28-Oct-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Can't say shit about the bad stuff they do on social media or I get fired.


[28-Oct-18 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah this si why walmart isnt a good place for me in terms of a job


[28-Oct-18 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have any positives to give them and i cant fake emotions


[28-Oct-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Shit, the only places around here hiring is Wal Mart or Arby's. So I'm stuck at Home fucking Depot.


[28-Oct-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same rpetty much


[28-Oct-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only we dont have a home depot


[28-Oct-18 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm being encouraged by my step dad to look into the Fire department though because he was a fire fighter. So I might stop by the station Monday or something and talk to them.


[28-Oct-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im gonna ask aorudn libraries and the college i;m going to if they're willign to hrie a student for a part time job


[28-Oct-18 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
I work nights at the HD so I don't need to deal with customers. Though I've worked customer service since graduating high school so I honed that shit.


[28-Oct-18 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wish my college hired students at a rate higher than 10.25 an hour.


[28-Oct-18 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course i'll have to wait for a less busy time


[28-Oct-18 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and theres no gauruntee ill even get hired


[28-Oct-18 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm making 12.36 right now, and I want to go up and not down. Not to mention the campus is an hour away so it's not viable for me tbh.


[28-Oct-18 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if i get my HVAC associats degree there is no guaruntee ill land any jobs int he feild


[28-Oct-18 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i;m hopignt hats not the case


[28-Oct-18 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think at this point diversity in skill would help and it goes back to the earlier comment about being taught to work the whole shop, so that way you're never trapped into one thing. The Anarchist in me too says that it'd be helpful to even find and learn skills from other, to become better yourself as well as being able to pass that down to someone else and make them better. So even with a HVAC associates I'd suggest looking into something on the side, complimentary or not. At least that way it can be put on the CV so you can suggest you're not a one-trick pony.


[28-Oct-18 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can take my hvac lessons and move into soemthing plumber/electrician related too so those are possible educative potential


[28-Oct-18 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like you've not only done HVAC but classes in non-HVAC specific electrical work maybe. I remember a guy - I think he came into school one day - saying that no class he ever took outside of his major was ever a wrong choice because it only broadened his skill set as a person.


[28-Oct-18 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
So, like, go into HVAC but take some Spanish language courses or something.


[28-Oct-18 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my only real limit is a pell grant


[28-Oct-18 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn knwo if they;d be willing to fund further than my hvac courses


[28-Oct-18 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or if you're insane enough and the option is there learn Mayan. Ironically there's a demand for Mayan speakers last I checked because a lot of southern migrants aren't even Spanish speakers, they only know some specific dialect of Mayan and maybe only generally literate in Spanish, they can read a road sign maybe.


[28-Oct-18 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i can even find mayan lessons


[28-Oct-18 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know how much classes are at your school and if you're working on the side, but my school charges on everage 500-600 dollars a class without additional expenses; usually. My pattern lately has been to take a few every semester or every other semester while working full time, which means that by the time I'm done I've worked enough to pay off those classes. I can still get a Pell grant I think but I need to update my FAFSA.


[28-Oct-18 11:38 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
So that's it


[28-Oct-18 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
But if you're in a situation you can get away with it, you could take an unrelated course or two and not report it, pay for it yourself best you can.


[28-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Brazilian presidential elections are over and the socialist pro-communism party finally is dropping the government in favor for the far right after about 16 years


[28-Oct-18 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
I pray for Brazil, because I know we're not going to do anything if Bolsanaro smashes democracy.


[28-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to conservatism being a joke


[28-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
That's just a lot of junk media can't stop spreading for that sweet audience, just how they try so hard making trump look 10 times worse than he is


[28-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
the classic meme is liberals are all heart and conservatives all brain


[28-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that's completely wrong


[28-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are generally motivated by empathy towards others, yes


[28-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
but conservatives are motivated by distrust and fear of others


[28-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
not out of some logic


[28-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I'm glad we're done with the socialists, they were a bigger threat to democracy, using sweet corruption money to buy support every where and perpetuate themselves in power


[28-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making Trump look 10x worse would be very difficult


[28-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
10 Trumps is about 1 Hitler


[28-Oct-18 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the raditz scale of conservatism using trumps


[28-Oct-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is extremely self-interested and his policy promises were pretty much built on hatred and fear


[28-Oct-18 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of his political relations are built on his hotel locations


[28-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
His actual policies don't fulfill the promises, but instead weasel their way into disparaging the groups he said he'd go after


[28-Oct-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(because outright racist policy motives are forbidden in US policymaking)


[28-Oct-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, conservatism works when trusting other groups is harmful


[28-Oct-18 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump just backed america out of a fucking treatie because he didnt want to punisht he russians


[28-Oct-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when the main goal is stopping them


[28-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but when those groups are internal


[28-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
when conservatism is literally trying to tear the nation apart


[28-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's self-defeating


[28-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't keep your house standing against invaders when you start smashing its pillars because some of them are different


[28-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
not when some of those "invaders" *are* part of the house


[28-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And a house divided against itself cannot stand.


[28-Oct-18 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservatives dont wna tto put effort into things, when shit gets hard they tear up the needed paperwork and thne build another missile


[28-Oct-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, when conservatism is twisted into saddling our young with debt and denying healthcare to people


[28-Oct-18 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both literal and metaphrical


[28-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
out of some sadistic desire to promote self-sufficiency


[28-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to cause problems.


[28-Oct-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Self-sufficiency taken to its extreme is Juche, which...just no


[28-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Free trade is much better


[28-Oct-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans weren't so bad when they were the party of free trade.


[28-Oct-18 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh juche is nroth korea


[28-Oct-18 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's not a good social policy


[28-Oct-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were the party of hating the gays and blakks with Nixon and the Southern Strategy of course, but at least they had some good ideas for economic cooperation.


[28-Oct-18 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back thne they also knew the value of a dollar and how far it coudl be stretched


[28-Oct-18 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Here's a chicken and egg: what came first, Juche's self-isolation or Juche's development of self-isolation out of need per embargo and isolation by the commercial west?


[28-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now Republicans are the party of closing the borders to trade


[28-Oct-18 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the new conservatives were raised on daddie's dime with no comprehension of how much a single dollar can effect things


[28-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of fearing that one migrant may get a better life but not be fully American


[28-Oct-18 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so shunning his entire country and stopping its lucrative trade


[28-Oct-18 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Juche's self-isolation came first, actually.


[28-Oct-18 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservatives today barely knwo the value of one trillion dollars thye just knwo they want it and will take it at all cost


[28-Oct-18 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
But that also, the circulation of a dollar in a community, without leaving the community, can itself become as valuable in six dollars in use over time, and its value rises exponentially, as the dollar turns into a means by which the commodities collect among the people in that community through use of that dollar. See, Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma, an oddity in its time because the segregated blacks became rather wealthy rather quickly because money rarely left. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfVzbM3l7RQ

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[28-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, raising minimum wage is a good idea in general


[28-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
it evens things out so that purchasing power can be high overall


[28-Oct-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out there has been none of the predicted decline in employment in Seattle from raising theirs


[28-Oct-18 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
raising wages means more money stays local and is reinvested


[28-Oct-18 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans don't care about local communities anymore


[28-Oct-18 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially since the cities that would prosper the most from having higher wages in them are full of mostly Democrats


[28-Oct-18 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Missouri didn't forbid St. Louis from raising it's minimum wage above the state minimum because of business rights or any threat to the state economy


[28-Oct-18 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
higher minimum wage also draws in future employees because now thye have a reason to come to you for employment


[28-Oct-18 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
it did it to try to force the status quo of inequality in the cities and tons of poor farmers voting Republican in outlying areas not being able to get richer


[29-Oct-18 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-mccarthy/steyer-accuses-no-2-house-republican-mccarthy-of-anti-semitism-idUSKCN1N20OG

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[29-Oct-18 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the name McCarthy really seems to come up a lot in politics I wonder why 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔


[29-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
At first I thought you were talking about Megan Mcarthy


[29-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
and i got so confused


[29-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The name comes from Irish kings


[29-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So inherited white wealth


[29-Oct-18 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Mc/Mac prefix in Celtic names means "of [clan]" as I'm told by an Irish friend of mine.


[29-Oct-18 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
So if you're a McCarthy your name basically means of the Carthy [family/clan]. You're property of them, as a serf.


[29-Oct-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
On a similar note, "Ibn" in an Arabic name also means "of", but not in the same vein. It's used to mean "Son of [parent's name]". If you're a girl it would be "bint" as "daughter of [parent's name]". You then add Al-[whatever] to signify "The [whatever person from clan/village/town/city/country/tribe/whichever]


[29-Oct-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mac is often also son for this


[29-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of not necessarily is property


[29-Oct-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It comes from "son of Cárthach"


[29-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It translates basically to Lovingson


[29-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in the son of Loving


[29-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil just elected Bolsonaro.


[29-Oct-18 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*loudest of OOF's*


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brazil gonna kill pot users, illegalize abortion, let capitalism run wild, etc.


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Probably, if Bolsonaro runs unchecked.


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sorry for your loss


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We (the left opposition, wink) might stage a return in 2020 to the municipalities


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He managed to take over a Classical Liberal party and turned it into a Republicunt party


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless Bolsonaro coups the government before that


[29-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they can stop him


[29-Oct-18 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even worse


[29-Oct-18 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A republicunt party that has no qualms on defending dictatorships


[29-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a difference?


[29-Oct-18 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, the Murican GOP will probably just deny it or try to sweep it under the carpet


[29-Oct-18 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like with the deposition of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran, approved by Ike


[29-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump at the helm will defend dictators a lot of the time


[29-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rest of the party tries to sweep it under


[29-Oct-18 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems fair.


[29-Oct-18 01:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
very fine people


[29-Oct-18 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Very *fine* skins when it comes to their masculinity, too.


[29-Oct-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you could almost say their skin is very waxy, like a papery substance


[29-Oct-18 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
often used for baking


[29-Oct-18 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
fine people on both sides


[29-Oct-18 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2018/10/universities-all-over-brazil-suffer-police-raids-and-electoral-justice-operations.shtml

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[29-Oct-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So saying Fascism is bad = campaigning against Bolsonaro = not okay in public institutions


[29-Oct-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
lovely


[29-Oct-18 09:26 AM] ononim#8141
🇧🇷 🇫


[29-Oct-18 01:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Next time i see a Brazilian flag, i'm gonna burn or desecrate it if i can. Even if i risk getting arrested for it.


[29-Oct-18 01:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This election only pushed me further into anti-nationalism.


[29-Oct-18 01:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🔥🔥🇧🇷🔥🔥


[29-Oct-18 01:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too bad i have to be more-or-less discrete, or else the Bolso-minions punch me.


[29-Oct-18 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bolsanovo can suck a barrel of cocks


[29-Oct-18 02:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He'd probably say it's the gay dictatorship torturing him


[29-Oct-18 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good that means the cock torture is working


[29-Oct-18 02:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, better


[29-Oct-18 02:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Force him to live with an LGBT person for a few months


[29-Oct-18 02:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sharing an apartment


[29-Oct-18 02:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just so he can see.


[29-Oct-18 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but wouldsnt he jsut try to mruder them himself?


[29-Oct-18 02:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good point. But he's old.


[29-Oct-18 02:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We could put him to live with a brawny transgender person.


[29-Oct-18 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make him live with the kardashians


[29-Oct-18 02:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He'd actually like them, i think.


[29-Oct-18 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah sadly


[29-Oct-18 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sticking rich people with other rich people neverqworks out how you;d think it would


[29-Oct-18 02:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're rich and they're from the USA.


[29-Oct-18 02:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Perfect combination for Bolsonaro's tastes.


[29-Oct-18 02:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whatever happens, i just hope i get thrown into the same concentration/reeducation camp as my friends.


[29-Oct-18 02:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hilarity would surely ensue.


[29-Oct-18 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope things go well for yout hough


[29-Oct-18 02:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Didn't most people oppose him being elected?


[29-Oct-18 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could see him pulling a putin


[29-Oct-18 02:13 PM] Mikey#7286
See the government is corrupt and elected him regardless if he actually won or not


[29-Oct-18 02:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[29-Oct-18 02:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Please tell me your joking about concentration/reeducation camps @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[29-Oct-18 03:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey i'm joking


[29-Oct-18 03:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[29-Oct-18 03:24 PM] Mikey#7286
I was gonna say


[29-Oct-18 03:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again... patriotism can evolve into fascism, which can evolve into even more brutal shit


[29-Oct-18 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there may not be camps now but there may be in the future


[29-Oct-18 03:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Who needs camps when in future ppl could make green soylent out of other ppl

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[29-Oct-18 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a bit of red rum goes well with that soylent green


[29-Oct-18 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/28/i-dont-want-to-go-blind-due-to-brexit

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[29-Oct-18 08:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Brexit means blind.


[29-Oct-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man I love the parliamentiary opposition cabinet terminology


[29-Oct-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
"“He seems to have accepted a no-deal Brexit,” the shadow chancellor added."


[29-Oct-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's talk of, basically, no deal being reached, UK just leaves without anything setup


[29-Oct-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
which would mean absolute clusterfukk, closed borders, etc.


[29-Oct-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-gerrymandering/supreme-court-turns-away-pennsylvania-electoral-map-dispute-idUSKCN1N31PC

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The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rebuffed a bid by Republican legislators in Pen...


[29-Oct-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So finally Pennsylvania will actually for sure be going forward with a decent electoral map


[29-Oct-18 08:15 PM] Nile#1441
No pictures :trixdisgust:


[29-Oct-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/21/17032936/pennsylvania-congressional-districts-2018

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The state Supreme Court installed a new map.
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[29-Oct-18 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old map from article https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WtkhoDEsCGof2XdL594aSYPno5c=/0x0:792x462/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:792x462):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10266231/Screen_Shot_2018_02_20_at_3.37.52_PM.png

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[29-Oct-18 08:16 PM] Nile#1441
Border gore


[29-Oct-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that tends to happen when you intentionally carve things based on where you want voters to be to crakk and pakk


[29-Oct-18 08:17 PM] Nile#1441
Should just do the ol' USA tradition and make all districts squares with straight lines everywhere


[29-Oct-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, one of the fairest ways to draw electoral districts


[29-Oct-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
is to draw straight lines repeatedly to subdivide


[29-Oct-18 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just find a line that splits people pretty much evenly on things, then repeat until you hav enuff districts


[29-Oct-18 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
has to also be able to split in three etc. to truly work, but it's decent


[29-Oct-18 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And what most people *want* out of districts is competitiveness, which is what that leads to.


[29-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Nile#1441
On a somewhat similar statement, U.S. borders are often AIDS


[29-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lol Rio Grande


[29-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
neither country is allowed to build directly on its banks


[29-Oct-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and at certain points, the water is so shallow you can walk across


[29-Oct-18 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Monarca likes to create human chains across such points


[29-Oct-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And because you technically havn't left until you reach the other bank, it means that in the middle, two people are holding hands and neither has left their country.


[29-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Nile#1441
I like natural borders, don't have to spend as much resources defending mountainous or river areas.


[29-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rivers are incredibly easy to cross tho


[29-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's only mountains that really stop people/armies.


[29-Oct-18 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And oceans if they're just right.


[29-Oct-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile state borders are acceptable from a distance tho


[29-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
State borders are absurd


[29-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Nile#1441
Sure but a lot of state borders are just gross


[29-Oct-18 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't account for changing river boundaries


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
they end up doing really stupid shit


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Fucking finally


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
Maryland and West Virginia and egregious borders.


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
Like **yuck**


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US Canada border has some gore btw


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, sometimes it sucks because some states are literal squares or rectangles


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it wasn't fully mapped when agreed to


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Texas, otoh, looks quite nice


[29-Oct-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
But not so bad compared to other places.


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Africa's straight line borders are funny


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there's like two areas where people going from one point in the US to another by trukk hav to go into Canada for a bit


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
similarly


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is a Canadian town in the US


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
An exclave?


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta


[29-Oct-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's in US territory


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's full of Canadian residents


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and is connected by road to Canada


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
but not the US


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like slightly on the accidentally wrong side of the border


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nile#1441
African borders are often quite stupid nowadays, but some of the southern nations have nicer borders.


[29-Oct-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
during the winter, the only way in or out is thru Alaska by plane


[29-Oct-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
With US customs ready where the plane lands.


[29-Oct-18 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[29-Oct-18 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
India-Bangladesh border gore prior to a 2015 agreement


[29-Oct-18 08:31 PM] Nile#1441
🤢


[29-Oct-18 09:11 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
is there a subreddit for border gore


[29-Oct-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reddit.com/r/BorderGore/comments/9geegx/irl_belgiumgermany_border_rmapporn/

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[29-Oct-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Belgium used to hav trains that went along its border with Germany, then Germany got a new border with it and all


[29-Oct-18 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mikeroach3/status/1056964493413154818?s=21

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[29-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/10/29/twitter-like-button-removal-ceo-jack-dorsey/1806271002/

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Twitter looking to remove 'Like' button as a way to improve debate...
Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has said he plans to remove the "like" button from the social network as a way to improve debate on the platform.
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[29-Oct-18 10:37 PM] your name#0924
twitter, for debate 😆


[29-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Ironically


[29-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Mikey#7286
This will hurt Twitter artists


[29-Oct-18 10:39 PM] your name#0924
yeah


[29-Oct-18 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
As we return to a pre Cold War style of discourse, I feel this may be acceptable practice moving ahead into the new world. Therefore I suggest that we make available outside of the homes of our politicians public access crowbars. This will be my platform of Classic American Praxis.

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[29-Oct-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[29-Oct-18 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
D I S A S S E M B LE   Y O U R   S E N A T O R ' S   H O U S E


[29-Oct-18 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can i use a sledge hammer?


[29-Oct-18 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you can punch him out when you get to his house.


[29-Oct-18 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that shoudl be easy with mitch mcconel


[29-Oct-18 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also ted cruz


[29-Oct-18 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to hear his wife complain abotut heir lack of a first hosue when i demolish it


[29-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Somehow goes to show how much they disapprove of Jeb Bush by taking his front door.


[29-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
He only weakly asks them pls no


[29-Oct-18 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
When it's all done he goes and sits slumped in a chair in the backyard staring at his feet


[29-Oct-18 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no diea who the nroth carolina senator is


[29-Oct-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Richard Burr (Republican Party) Thom Tillis (Republican Party)


[29-Oct-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his name was better when i thought that said thorn


[29-Oct-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seize the means of demolition


[29-Oct-18 11:28 PM] Dogman15#6007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUU2iWxrH2M

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PragerU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUU2iWxrH2M
Illegal Immigration: It's About Power
Historically, Democrats supported strong borders because they knew American workers could never compete with illegal immigrants. Now, they regularly support ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qUU2iWxrH2M/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Oct-18 11:30 PM] Nile#1441
Weird seeing Tucker Carlson in one of these vids


[29-Oct-18 11:31 PM] Dogman15#6007
I think it's his first time on a Prager video? Correct me if I'm wrong.


[29-Oct-18 11:31 PM] Nile#1441
I haven't watched a PragerU video in about a year, a lot of their videos are just bizarre.


[29-Oct-18 11:32 PM] Dogman15#6007
What, the animation style?


[29-Oct-18 11:34 PM] Nile#1441
Their subject matter, more or less. Animation style doesn't bother me unless the goal is to be an animated video.


[29-Oct-18 11:36 PM] Dogman15#6007
Well, the subject matter is designed to get you to think, and really consider hard where you stand on certain issues.


[29-Oct-18 11:37 PM] Nile#1441
Fair I guess, but I don't agree with much of that channel.


[29-Oct-18 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I haven't _watched_ most of them, but from what other people have said, I am pretty sure most of their video arguments are flawed in crazy ways


[29-Oct-18 11:39 PM] Dogman15#6007
Well, I would invite you then to pick one of their recent videos and point out specific flaws with evidence.


[29-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nile#1441
The only one of their videos that really stands out that I remember being very contrived, was the "If There Is No God, Murder Isn't Wrong" video.


[29-Oct-18 11:40 PM] Nile#1441
(That's the title, not a summary)


[29-Oct-18 11:41 PM] Dogman15#6007
Can't judge a video on its title alone. If you watch the entire video, you'll understand what they're trying to say and can more effectively argue against it.


[29-Oct-18 11:42 PM] Nile#1441
I did watch it


[29-Oct-18 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
how about we start with the most recent one


[29-Oct-18 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
and work on the premise


[29-Oct-18 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610

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[29-Oct-18 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure watching Prager's videos is really different from watching it get debunked by, say, Three Arrows


[29-Oct-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
1: the point about the wage stagnation probably doesn't have much to do with this so-called surge in illegal immigration, nor is that even cited. economists disagree over whether immigration causes wage stagnation for blue collar workers, but agree that the general effect on a national economy is next to nothing


[29-Oct-18 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their arguments are very, very fucking typical


[29-Oct-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
2: the "simple facts" that Tuckerson cites show a correlation


[29-Oct-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
not a causation


[29-Oct-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
it is true that it is a power advantage for democrats to support the rights of hispanic americans, but it doesn't mean that that's the reasoning behind doing so, nor should that be a necessarily ignoble thing


[29-Oct-18 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tucker Carlson is also wrong in implying that electoral patterns will remain the same forever


[29-Oct-18 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
here's another graph demonstrating Tucker Carlson's point, using his logic:


[29-Oct-18 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i0.wp.com/www.skepticalraptor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/autism-organic-food.png

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[29-Oct-18 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Dogman15 btw, the Dems, despite all their flaws, are at least correct about the issues of migrant families and workers


[29-Oct-18 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
There are also mixed-to-positive effects for specific classes of immigrants (namely migrant workers, though to be fair this isn't about so-called illegal immigration) https://www.economist.com/international/2018/10/20/why-farm-worker-migration-is-booming

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Why farm-worker migration is booming
Hostility to migrants is on the rise, but farm hands are still voting with their feet
https://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20181020_IRP003_0.jpg


[29-Oct-18 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None of Prager """University"""'s ideologues has even made a comprehensive study on what the life of a migrant worker is like


[29-Oct-18 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And not only that


[29-Oct-18 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Migrants toil, and the wealth they bring is pretty big


[29-Oct-18 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's capitalism


[29-Oct-18 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Almost no conservatives i have argued with are properly versed on how capitalism works.


[29-Oct-18 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd argue that none are, tbqh.


[29-Oct-18 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not really going to even bother with the rest of that video


[29-Oct-18 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
We had another PragerU vid linked in here a few days ago about how "Republicans were the party that freed the slaves and fought for equal rights!!!" etc.


[29-Oct-18 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
conveniently ignoring the fact that Democrats and Republicans exchanged ideologies in the last century


[29-Oct-18 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Prager's argument about modern western democracy being shaped by christianity and the ten commandments is also lame as fuck


[29-Oct-18 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Half of the ten commandments are literally nonsensical


[29-Oct-18 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
some of our stupid laws are shaped by religion


[29-Oct-18 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_laws_in_the_United_States

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Blue laws in the United States
Blue laws, also known as Sunday laws, are laws designed to restrict or ban some or all Sunday activities for religious reasons, particularly to promote the observance of a day of worship or rest. Blue laws may also restrict shopping or ban sale of certain items on specific da...


[29-Oct-18 11:59 PM] Nile#1441
We have those too, I don't see the problem


[29-Oct-18 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>i don't see the problem


[29-Oct-18 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't see the use either


[30-Oct-18 12:00 AM] Nile#1441
It's a day off for lots of people, that sounds nice


[30-Oct-18 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, but mostly not for religious reasons


[30-Oct-18 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
If one is to argue that all things are moral because God said so, then it faces Euthyphro's Dillema. If it is good because God, then had God said otherwise it would still be good because it came from God. Thus if what is good is argued as being so because God or the gods and no other basis, it is moral without rationale.


[30-Oct-18 12:01 AM] Nile#1441
Doesn't have to be for a religious purpose, most people just have the day off.


[30-Oct-18 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, but would the "day off" mechanism not be thought of without christianity?


[30-Oct-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well days off are a good thing in general. Not for religion but because it's nice to recharge or even do something else for your own pleasure. God need not apply in it.


[30-Oct-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unless you want to use the day(s) off to honor God, then so be it.


[30-Oct-18 12:03 AM] Nile#1441
Maybe it would in the U.S. but I still don't see the issue.


[30-Oct-18 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
@Dogman15 sufficient for you?


[30-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Dogman15#6007
Good job.


[30-Oct-18 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if I can expand brain, or at least expand test scores, with supplemental oxygen


[30-Oct-18 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
inb4 Lemon "Oxygen is a drug gais dun get addicted"


[30-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Nile#1441
we use oxygen, so wasteful and pointless


[30-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Nile#1441
machines don't use it :Upvote:


[30-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
hurr AI will use less resources guys


[30-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Mikey#7286
If it weren't for plants we wouldn't breathe at all


[30-Oct-18 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
if humuns photosynthesised den we wud be most effect


[30-Oct-18 12:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Trees are most responsible for the oxygen we breathe


[30-Oct-18 12:41 AM] Mikey#7286
Which is another reason why deforestation is fucking stupid


[30-Oct-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but der lergics erkles less mernies!


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Funny thing is


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we gerts ter herve mer mernies!


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
We can do as much harm to the planet as we want


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
If we die off


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Like


[30-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Blow ourselves up or whatnot


[30-Oct-18 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
The Earth will heal and live on without us


[30-Oct-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
But don't you hear? I'll be the end of Earth! :Downvote: :Downvote: :Downvote:


[30-Oct-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Society will crumble and all the infrastructure we've built will decay over time


[30-Oct-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
It'd take millions of years but by then if aliens came here there'd be no evidence we were ever here


[30-Oct-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the fuck


[30-Oct-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the evidence of dinosaurs existing lasted millions of years


[30-Oct-18 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
what makes you think the evidence of humans won't


[30-Oct-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have built temples out of literal mountains


[30-Oct-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have entire undergroudn structures that will last far longer than the surface structures


[30-Oct-18 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder we will leave a fine layer of plastic and unnatural minerals coating the planet in a fine film for eons to come


[30-Oct-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thAT too


[30-Oct-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatly


[30-Oct-18 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
But we can avoid all this if we fix SALT so that we can have t hose salt reactors now


[30-Oct-18 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
BLZ


[30-Oct-18 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor

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Molten salt reactor
A molten salt reactor (MSR) is a class of nuclear fission reactor in which the primary nuclear reactor coolant and/or the fuel is a molten salt mixture. MSRs offer multiple advantages over conventional nuclear power plants, although for historical reasons, they have not been ...
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[30-Oct-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said science is currently workign on a solution to th eplastic thing with basteria and nano bots


[30-Oct-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whichever gets used first


[30-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] there will be some evidence but mostly things like Stonehenge and the pyramids


[30-Oct-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and these temples

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[30-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
https://brightside.me/wonder-curiosities/heres-what-would-happen-if-humans-disappeared-374910/

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What Would Happen if We Became Extinct Right Now
Humans have inhabited Earth for roughly a couple of million years now. If we think about our planet as a living being, then one day it can just get rid of humanity like an annoying guest. Here at Bright Side we are not going to talk about “how,“ ”why," or ...
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[30-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
True


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evidence of humans would be ridiculously easy to find


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
history channel has an entire series aboutt his that was made back when it was good


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
for one thing, we tend to bury or mummify our dead


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
life after humans


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the  plastics and metals are huge signs as well


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and stone architecture would survive


[30-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
some houses end up buried and would survive


[30-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
there also would be a hugely noticible extinction event


[30-Oct-18 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bank vaults would likely last for billions of years


[30-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
just from the extinctions we've already caused


[30-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, bits left by the Apollo program will still be there until something hits them


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
that could take many billions of years


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, sun would eat up the moon first


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
abandoned space stations


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
ISS would crash and burn in 6 months


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sucks


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
geosync sats will stay up for millions of years tho


[30-Oct-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the wifi will be immortal


[30-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't use geosync for internet


[30-Oct-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know


[30-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's way too high up


[30-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's used for stable, high-latency communications


[30-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
The entire world would still heal though and most of the natural world would claim itself back


[30-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta


[30-Oct-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
plants would rebound


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but species don't go unextinct


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
many invasive species would dominate


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and plastics would plague the oceans for eons


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
life after people kinda deals with the situation of humans just chernobeling the fuck off to voidland leavign everything in tact


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
Well the environment would vastly improve


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not in the short term


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
I know


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
global warming would continue for about a century


[30-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the permafrost *will* melt


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The forets would do very well, tho


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
coral reefs...not so much


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
The article says the earth would face another ice age eventually though


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Before we leave we'll need to turn off the lights and plant a few million more trees


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
eons later


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the lights would break soon on their own


[30-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[30-Oct-18 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Turn off lights and shut down power plants and check out


[30-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Mikey#7286
In a million years the planet would look pretty fucking wild tho


[30-Oct-18 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let the cats deal with the rest


[30-Oct-18 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some dams woudls till be runnign but after while frwhs water clams would invade and clog allt hemachinery


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Come back from our vacation outside of reality after a few millennium and be told KHAJIT HAS WARES HUMAN


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Recreate Elder Scrolls


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Turn to walk away


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
vision goes black


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Words enter our vision


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM


[30-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Collective "God fucking damn it, Todd Howard"


[30-Oct-18 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit todd i;m not paying for this!


[30-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] btw, fun fact


[30-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can die of oxygen poisoning


[30-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As in, overabundance of oxygen, which causes hyperventilation


[30-Oct-18 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some divers died of this, surprisingly


[30-Oct-18 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oxygen kills, kids. Don't do oxygen.


[30-Oct-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking of diving you can also die if you surface too fast


[30-Oct-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pressure adjustment is a thing you shouldnt fucking rush


[30-Oct-18 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids: drink your anti oxidents


[30-Oct-18 01:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
To release the nitrogen in your joints or   g e t    f u c k e d    b o y e


[30-Oct-18 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids: drink your auntie oxiclean


[30-Oct-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I know you can die of oxygen poisoning


[30-Oct-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
The relevant studies on cognitive ability were for 40% oxygen


[30-Oct-18 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
The question is whether you can do better and where it starts to get dangerous


[30-Oct-18 01:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I think the biggest clue to humans being around would be lumps of refined uranium from our nuclear weapons and other things


[30-Oct-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are very rare


[30-Oct-18 01:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
235-Uranium has a half life of 700+ million years so it'll be around for many more billions with the ability to radiodate it easily


[30-Oct-18 01:17 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll obviously not be naturally made due to its concentration in spots and it'll indicate where humans created it at


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's rare as fukk


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye but it's in weapons


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] LemonDrop#9571
would be a pain to find some but it might stick around


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing archeology/paleontology


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
you tend to find 1 in a millions


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
stuff there was a million of


[30-Oct-18 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you find 1


[30-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't find the 1 in 100 millions


[30-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
not for a long time, anyways


[30-Oct-18 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would find a perfectly-preserved western syle home long before the first lump of uranium


[30-Oct-18 01:20 AM] LemonDrop#9571
It might be more detectable than other things too due to it being an anomaly


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
especially if humans just suddenly vanished


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
nuclear reactors would explode and make a very obvious zone of radiation for quite a long time


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye I doubt that'd last a million years


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] soundtea#7559
you're assuming humans would just get raptur'd away tho


[30-Oct-18 01:21 AM] LemonDrop#9571
well idk what the idea is


[30-Oct-18 01:22 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they might also just be able to find craters in things where bombs were detonated but that's still eh


[30-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear reactors are like 2 dozen in number


[30-Oct-18 01:22 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean some meteroties have left craters for millions of years even exposed to weather but those were rather big


[30-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody would find those


[30-Oct-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the things found tend to be exact conditions to preserve common crap


[30-Oct-18 01:23 AM] soundtea#7559
Like we only got all the stuff from Pompeii because it got preserved in ash


[30-Oct-18 01:23 AM] soundtea#7559
a lucky chance essentially for archelogists


[30-Oct-18 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing about anything in Pompeii was special, either


[30-Oct-18 01:23 AM] LemonDrop#9571
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater> like this was only a 10 megaton impact


[30-Oct-18 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was just some crap city full of roman crap


[30-Oct-18 01:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
we didn't detonate any nukes that big on the ground I don't think


[30-Oct-18 01:24 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but there are a lot of holes in bikini atoll


[30-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's one of the richest archeological sites there is


[30-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff is still being excavated


[30-Oct-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
recently they found a graphite date marking on a wall


[30-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
indicating it was destroyed in late October, not late August


[30-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the sort of marking that would go away in a week or two


[30-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
just there like it had been new


[30-Oct-18 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the ash preserved everything


[30-Oct-18 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, October in Rome would have been August today.


[30-Oct-18 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking pre-date-format conversion


[30-Oct-18 01:26 AM] LemonDrop#9571
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[30-Oct-18 01:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
ye there it is


[30-Oct-18 01:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I think castle bravo left that hole


[30-Oct-18 01:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
15 megatons


[30-Oct-18 01:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that'll be there for a while :p


[30-Oct-18 01:27 AM] LemonDrop#9571
being underwater isn't too ideal for preservation tho with all the erosion


[30-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That could be gone in a millennium


[30-Oct-18 01:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
probably


[30-Oct-18 01:29 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the meteor crater isn't that old too I noticed, it's only 50,000 years lol


[30-Oct-18 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
ur mum's cooter is 50000 years old


[30-Oct-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
GOTTEM


[30-Oct-18 02:36 AM] Deleted User#0000
*ludentes exsurgite*


[30-Oct-18 02:36 AM] Deleted User#0000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba5dWgnW7bA

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[30-Oct-18 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/23/18004478/hack-gap-explained

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The hack gap: how and why conservative nonsense dominates American...
Republicans have a huge strategic advantage in shaping the news.
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[30-Oct-18 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, actually, at least TV and radio media hav a huge *conservative* bias because of Sinclair + Fox News


[30-Oct-18 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20181029/republican-party-headquarters-vandalized-by-gunfire-in-volusia

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Republican Party headquarters vandalized by gunfire in Volusia
SOUTH DAYTONA — At least four bullets were fired from a gun into the windows of Volusia County's Republican Party headquarters Sunday night or early Monday morning, and the party's chairman blamed Democrats for the vandalism."I'm looking at the busted window that some nice...
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[30-Oct-18 01:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie even in liberal media, the tendency is to doubt liberal talking points whereas this is borderline unthinkable for conservative media outside a token show of opposition


[30-Oct-18 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-plans-sign-executive-order-terminate-birthright-citizenship-1192823

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Trump says he plans to sign an executive order to end birthright c...
"Now they're saying I can do it just with an executive order," President Donald Trump has said of his aim to end birthright citizenship in the U.S.
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[30-Oct-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is not okay.


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is now saying he can override the constitution with executive orders


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is a direct path to dictatorship


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
and revoking birthright citizenship a direct path to disenfranchising minorities


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
no he can't


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
not just immigrants.


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
that's not how it works


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he will try.


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He must be stopped.


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
he won't succeed


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
congress will override him


[30-Oct-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress does not do that


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Judiciary does that


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
it will take months for the case to get thru the various stages of the courts.


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
During those months, people will suffer


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is the idea.


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Mikey#7286
congress has to propose an amendment for it to happen


[30-Oct-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many of Trump's policies are intended to sow chaos


[30-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chaos can discourage minorities from being part of the political or economic system.


[30-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if he can get even a few months of denying citizenship


[30-Oct-18 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
it can cause damage for years to come.


[30-Oct-18 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Native-born children deported, or having to go thru a special legal process to get bakk what was taken.


[30-Oct-18 07:32 PM] Nile#1441
Ending birthright citizenship? :Upvote:

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[30-Oct-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Orange Turd is making a visit to my area later today


[30-Oct-18 07:36 PM] Nile#1441
wew


[30-Oct-18 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So like what if only one is a citizen


[30-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if they are both legally here


[30-Oct-18 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not yet citizens


[30-Oct-18 07:46 PM] Nile#1441
You can gain citizenship with at least one citizen parent. The second one I’m not sure because it doesn’t seem very common


[30-Oct-18 07:47 PM] Nile#1441
It’s how Ted Cruz was able to run for president despite being born in Canada I believe


[30-Oct-18 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL one of my friends told me about bill maher making a joke about making trump show his birth cert to show he's not the son of an orangutan and trump tried suing him over it and failed


[30-Oct-18 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/looks-like-someone-may-be-planning-false-sexual-assault-accusations-against-robert-mueller/

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Looks Like Someone May Be Planning False Sexual Assault Accusation...
An unknown person or organization appears to be planting a series of false sexual misconduct allegations with the media in an effort to smear special counsel Robert Mueller.
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[30-Oct-18 07:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
owo what's this


[30-Oct-18 07:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
false sexual assault accusations


[30-Oct-18 07:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
never heard that one before


[30-Oct-18 07:57 PM] DevField#5162
Of course not! Who could ever do such a thing :twismug:


[30-Oct-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmaoing at the idea even if it were proved it would ruin the investigation


[30-Oct-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not a judicial temperament thing


[30-Oct-18 08:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.wsj.com/articles/military-to-deploy-5-000-troops-to-southern-border-u-s-officials-say-1540820650

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Trump to Deploy 5,200 Troops to Southern Border
The president calls the migrant caravan in Mexico an “invasion,” but his critics say the troop movement is a campaign ploy.
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[30-Oct-18 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
The funny thing about this is: the US military is legally forbidden from making civilian arrests.


[30-Oct-18 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
And an army friend of mine is telling me they're all treating it as a logistics exercise more than anything. No one in the army is taking this seriously.


[30-Oct-18 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Midterm puffing


[30-Oct-18 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
pretty much


[30-Oct-18 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Oct-18 10:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Many are fleeing from dangerous situations but we can't just accept everyone. Because legal immigraints have to spend years to get citizenship. It just makes it harder for them.


[30-Oct-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, we can just accept everyone


[30-Oct-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
we literally hav the capacity in terms of space, housing, resources to do so


[30-Oct-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And under international law, we are supposed to accept people fleeing violence


[30-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
however, the current administration wants, and has already put in place several, restrictions on asylum-seeking in order to derelict our obligations


[30-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes Goverment Violence


[30-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
In particular, domestic violence and gang violance are currently not considered forms of violence under threat of which you can be granted asylum


[30-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
so we send people bakk because gangs don't count etc. and then they get killed by gangs


[30-Oct-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is both morally wrong and wrong under international law


[30-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I just fear that this will lead to an influx of refugees


[30-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
In some cases, we send these people bakk *after* they've already secured stable employment while seeking asylum


[30-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
An influx of refugees is a drop in the bukket


[30-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
we hav 300 million people


[30-Oct-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and like the 4th largest land area of any country


[30-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav about twice Europe's area and half the people, and for refugees to even really be noticible they'd need to come in waves the size of like the entire population of Honduras at once


[30-Oct-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's unrealistic.


[30-Oct-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, immigrants commit less crime on average than native-born citizens.


[30-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I understand. A part of me feels that those goverments they are fleeing from won't change their behavior unless external force is needed


[30-Oct-18 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee, and immigrants (both legal and illegal) are practically what keeps the engine of our capitalist economy going.


[30-Oct-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras had a plan to create a Hong Kong-like area


[30-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but ultimately it failed politically due to corruption


[30-Oct-18 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.neweurope.eu/article/sweden-fails-to-form-government/

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Sweden fails to form government
Nearly two months after holding elections, Sweden too a step closer towards being forced to hold snap elections after incumbent Prime Minister Stefan Lofven's latest bid to form a government failed on October 29.

The news came after the centre-right opposition leader, Ulf...
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[30-Oct-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Such an area would've given people somewhere to go and fostered relations between countries, possibly resulting in more legal immigration with Mexico


[30-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I wonder why Latin and Central America have a vast corruption problem


[30-Oct-18 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
but nope, now we've got Honduras covered in gang violence and Mexico is trying desperately to get asylum sorted out for enuff of the caravan before it becomes a shitshow at the US border (where under normal circumstances virtually all would apply for asylum, but the Trump administration has at times literally physically blokked asylum seekers at legal ports of entry)


[30-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because of the CIA and the war on drugs


[30-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
South America was third world in the early 20th century


[30-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
a bunch of natives and Europeans dealing with the ramifications of colonialism, much like Africa


[30-Oct-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Cold War used South America as a front


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
USSR wanted communism covering it as a way to get up towards the US


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because history lingers.


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
US of course didn't want that


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the CIA then went around staging coups, stoking fears, etc. to try to undermine the communists


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
but in practice all they ended up doing was make more corrupt communists


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Well we should help South America more due to all the trouble we caused there


[30-Oct-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, drugs became a thing with the war on drugs making them highly sought after and yet hard to produce locally


[30-Oct-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon's push to throw blakks and hippies in jail had the side effect of empowering warlords in the jungles of Central and South America


[30-Oct-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so eventually we then sent people down to shoot up drug lords


[30-Oct-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
which just makes things even worse


[30-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Will we ever be rid of the ghost of the cold war?


[30-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only when we and Russia are the same country


[30-Oct-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, maybe the 23rd century


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like if the entire planet unites and goes to space etc.


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That is unlikely to happen.


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will *eventually* happen


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
or we'll all die


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
either way


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can't stay on Earth fighting over its resources permanently.


[30-Oct-18 10:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That, or we abandon capitalism and state society, and become anarchists. I bet the world's resources will not survive to see the 23rd century.


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I was hoping we could have done the same thing for Japan and South Korea


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think we'll be seeing South America do something like the EU within the century


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Africa too


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even if we manage to extract resources from other planets, it pains me to think that we'll become a parasitic, expansionist space horde.


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
our current growth is unsustainable heatwise


[30-Oct-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
at current rates of growth of waste heat produced by society, the planet would reach the boiling point of water in 200 years


[30-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either economic growth must stop, or we must expand to other planets to distribute it


[30-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the former is actually a bit more likely within that timeframe.


[30-Oct-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The implication however is that we must basically freeze resource use and population growth


[30-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and focus on technological improvement.


[30-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means we must make the third world first world


[30-Oct-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that likely means at least largescale unifications of countries.


[30-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would not be terribly surprising to see a "South American Economic Area" form once Bolsonaro etc. are out of power.


[30-Oct-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for the EU, it is so politically and culturally consolidated now that I think unification into a single country is inevitable


[30-Oct-18 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless Bolsonaro becomes a South American Saddam Hussein, turns to Russia after the USA rejects him, and gets invaded


[30-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you can't just bring bakk closed European borders


[30-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
people would get very angry they can no longer head into Spain for a bit to buy liquor etc.


[30-Oct-18 10:52 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Europeans are too proud to consider unification


[30-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is what to be proud of


[30-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
once everyone is speaking English, watching the same movies, and only really has a few things like baguettes to hold onto for cultural identity


[30-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's hard to be proud of being French and not German


[30-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in Germany, they are not proud of being German


[30-Oct-18 10:53 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Then you have decide which country would be the EU's capital where the power rest


[30-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It already has a rotating presidency


[30-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU has all the necessary structure to become a country already, essentially


[30-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would just need to shift things from mostly local laws to mostly EU-wide laws (regulations)


[30-Oct-18 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just adopt American federalism as a model for the EU


[30-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
American federalism is a failure.


[30-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has created on many many types of things 50 different standards


[30-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Spike's smug face makes that comment funny


[30-Oct-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
which makes interstate trade a nightmare and in some states, the law as a blunt weapon against minorities


[30-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
American Federalism?


[30-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
50 different ideas of when it's okay to sell alcohol, 50 different ideas of age of consent, 50 different ideas of doctor licensing


[30-Oct-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a clusterfukk


[30-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You go to another state and you may find your credentials invalid, your personal effects illegal, your marriage void, your wife no longer legal to hav sex with, etc. etc.


[30-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
50 different ideas, but only one if you want all your federal funding


[30-Oct-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just nonsensical.


[30-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can put a gun in the glove box and be fine in one state and then be breaking the law as you travel into another


[30-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
same for *blue lights under your vehicle*


[30-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The laws are different in each state but when it comes to Civil law that rest with the federal government


[30-Oct-18 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
In some areas, you can't skateboard on the sidewalk


[30-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So people go on Spring Break and are doing normal stuff and suddenly police come to ruin their fun


[30-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
because some retards in bumfukk nowhere decided only hooligans hav skateboards


[30-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and until REAL ID is a thing


[30-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
50 different ID standards


[30-Oct-18 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
and even when it is


[30-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
the old IDs will still be around


[30-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
with 50 different standards for getting REAL ID


[30-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Besides the Federial goverment would be overstepping their boundaries if they interfere with state laws too much.


[30-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And 50 different standards on ID to vote, of course


[30-Oct-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many being no standard because America relies on something else to prove voter identity


[30-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The American system is a bad idea


[30-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So what do you suggest?


[30-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
States having this much power creates a massive patchwork


[30-Oct-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The federal gov't needs to hav the final say on things


[30-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
States should just be different in the executive, in how things are enforced.


[30-Oct-18 11:02 PM] Sally Moon#4922
We can't give the goverment too much power


[30-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
We already hav


[30-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
or you'll end up like China


[30-Oct-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't right now is trying to cement corporate power against the people


[30-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discord btw recently added a clause to its ToS


[30-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
saying you can't sue it unless you opt out of the clause


[30-Oct-18 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS has upheld such measures before, including recently as a condition of employment.


[30-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, the federal gov't has power over virtually everything via using funding as a lure


[30-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not what the founders intended


[30-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
what they intended was basically what the EU is lol


[30-Oct-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
States having all sorts of powers and being loosely banded together by a central thing that sets some requirements


[30-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
over time the Federalists hav won


[30-Oct-18 11:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
an USA still using the Articles of Confederation would have its own set of problems though


[30-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
but states still carry on with what they can hav


[30-Oct-18 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
creating simultaneously a powerful federal gov't and 50 different standards on shit that shouldn't be different.


[30-Oct-18 11:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
America would be less united if we still kept the Articles of Confederation and bigger states would basically bully smaller ones


[30-Oct-18 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
borders would also be weirder, i'd wager


[30-Oct-18 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
imagine South Carolina bounded by two straight borders stretching all the way to the middle of the North American continent


[30-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
California would  have spited a long time ago too


[30-Oct-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
California would hav gobbled up smaller states over time


[30-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That economy is unstoppable


[30-Oct-18 11:10 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It would have been chaos and we wouldn't be a world power at all


[30-Oct-18 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'd say world power status might not have been that necessary


[30-Oct-18 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it not only brought problems to the US, but also to the states it intervened in


[30-Oct-18 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a Switzerland-like USA would have been quite pleasant, IMO


[30-Oct-18 11:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah and even everyone would be moving there in droves. People flocked to California for economic opportunity.


[30-Oct-18 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
he is slowly enlightened


[30-Oct-18 11:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
But the problem is I would rather have a unified country rather than a diversity one where people are more loyal to the state than to the country. It would have been a nightmare.


[30-Oct-18 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
depends


[30-Oct-18 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Switzerland, as mentioned before, juggles three (maybe four) languages, and is confederally administered


[30-Oct-18 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yet, it has stayed whole, and even prospered


[30-Oct-18 11:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
From its Neutrality


[31-Oct-18 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
And whiteness


[31-Oct-18 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and chocolate


[31-Oct-18 12:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and my axe!


[31-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Nile#1441
I don't much care for Switzerland tbh, what good have the Swiss done for me


[31-Oct-18 12:11 AM] Nile#1441
:op:


[31-Oct-18 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
those army knives


[31-Oct-18 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and yodeling


[31-Oct-18 12:27 AM] Nile#1441
Army knives sure, yodeling is gay though


[31-Oct-18 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*follows you and yodels irritatingly*


[31-Oct-18 12:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I mean Swiss banking has a really bad rep to it


[31-Oct-18 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fun fact: in Switzerland, the state rewards you with wealth based on how good you can yodel


[31-Oct-18 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
jk


[31-Oct-18 12:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That would be a good thing pay for those medical bills for a sore throat


[31-Oct-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland's one of the few places in Europe with private healthcare, indeed.


[31-Oct-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more expensive, but has somewhat higher overall quality. Not like the shitty US system that's ludicrous.


[31-Oct-18 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aaxbFIw8oU

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[31-Oct-18 12:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I mean you tell all those doctors and Nurses they are suddenly out of the job


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Insurance companies somehow employ medical professionals


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
ok


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Doctors spend close to 12 years working on their degrees


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you are implying that making healthcare single-payer unemploys doctors and nurses, that is not correct


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicare for all would not change their employment status at all


[31-Oct-18 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
just who pays them


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
gov't instead of insurers


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It actually does lead to loss of jobs


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather, who pays the hospital that then pays them.


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico didn't lose doctor and nurse jobs by going medicare for all


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of jobs get lost in the insurance industry


[31-Oct-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but those aren't doctors or nurses.


[31-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if you went fully to the UK model


[31-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would actually lead to *more* doctors and nurses


[31-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
as they'd be gov't employees with more stable incomes and such


[31-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we couldn't make the immediate jump to that.


[31-Oct-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would hav to come in in phases.


[31-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Wouldn't we have to raise taxes?


[31-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[31-Oct-18 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK spends as much per capita on the NHS as we do on medicare


[31-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The savings gotten from expanding gov't healthcare equally-weigh having to cover much more people


[31-Oct-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'd actually be spending *less* because we could eliminate medicaid and the VA by doing this


[31-Oct-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the gov't would be spending less, and so would the economy overall (private healthcare is very costly relative to our GDP)


[31-Oct-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what makes the US system so crazy: We're spending like twice as much as other countries for care that's maybe 2% better and much of that money is coming out of the pokket of people who get injured instead of taxpayers, making getting injured a serious problem.


[31-Oct-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Mexico went medicare for all, they realized families were saving all their money because if their little boy fell down a well, it would take their savings to save him.


[31-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Families saving tons and tons instead of spending is bad for the economy, as is people dying because their family didn't save and thus depriving the economy of a productive worker that it spent time and effort training.


[31-Oct-18 12:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Then why haven't we adapted such a system?


[31-Oct-18 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because private insurance companies don't want to loose their profits.


[31-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because there is one huge benefit to our current system: it raises the profits of drug companies (medicare is legally barred from leveraging purchasing power to lower drug prices) and insurance companies.


[31-Oct-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar the Jones Act, which prohibits any non-US-made or non-US-crewed ship from transporting goods or people from one US port to another


[31-Oct-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's all it really is. When you pay your insurance bills a portion of your payment goes to the profit of the company, and the people running the company, and not just putting your money into a pool to pay for the doctor when you need to see the doctor.


[31-Oct-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Jones Act greatly benefits shipmakers, but greatly detriments other industries, by a much, much larger amount


[31-Oct-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The inusrance industry is a pretty major industry in America, especially since everyone needs medical aid at some point so it's an ensured market that doesn't face as much competition from alternatives.


[31-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this is why drug and insurance companies fought tooth and nail against Obamacare


[31-Oct-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lowers their profits to cover people with preexisting conditions


[31-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But doing so benefits the economy overall.


[31-Oct-18 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Early on in the 1900's we legislated out of existence alternative ways to pay for medical costs for the benefit of already then-powerful insurance companies. One of which was the Union health pool where everyone would toss five or ten dollars a month into a common account that they'd take from to pay their medical bills when needed.


[31-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
These days even Republicans now begrudgingly support requirements to not charge more or deny coverage to those with preexisting conditions


[31-Oct-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's very recent


[31-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
a year ago, Republicans were trying to kill preexisting condition requirements.


[31-Oct-18 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Unions have had this power stripped away, and other care alternatives. Doctor Co-ops exist today but so far as I can tell only in Texas and Washington state and are not a nation-wide alternative.


[31-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, in cases of newer treatments


[31-Oct-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
insurance companies in the US often deny coverage on the basis of a treatment being unproven


[31-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when it's obvious that it will work


[31-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Insurance companies are incentivized financially to ditch their obligations to pay for care for those facing life-threatening conditions.


[31-Oct-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a conflict of interest that should not be allowed to exist...


[31-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://chicago.suntimes.com/working/working-360-precision-high-price-costly-medicine-cancer-patients-agonizing-choices/

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Costly medicine forces cancer patients to make agonizing choices
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[31-Oct-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
'As a consequence, her insurer has covered only a fraction of her care, forcing Kilmer to make an agonizing choice: stop taking a drug that costs nearly $17,000 a month, or pay out-of-pocket, burdening her family with tremendous debt.'


[31-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This kind of thing just doesn't happen when the gov't is in charge of healthcare, because the gov't is much less incentivized to lower costs.


[31-Oct-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And very incentivized to save people from cancer


[31-Oct-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(saving people from cancer generally is something that gets you reelected, but it is not something that keeps an insurance company CEO pleasing investors)


[31-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, also, @Sally Moon


[31-Oct-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doctors need that much money to begin with because of student debt


[31-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's actually preeeeetty bad


[31-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason most of Europe now is paying for people's tuition


[31-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
education is very important and has a good ROI for the overall economy


[31-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, as you might guess


[31-Oct-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the US, there's an entire industry built around predatory student lending


[31-Oct-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The expectation is most can't ever pay off their bills, but many will not be able to default or get out of paying and thus continue to provide money to the company for years and years after schooling.


[31-Oct-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, it's expensive to pay for schooling...but it pays off when you get higher taxes from more people having gotten better jobs.


[31-Oct-18 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the US system favors immediate profit over long term returns


[31-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worse than that


[31-Oct-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US system favors business profit over societal profit


[31-Oct-18 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
In some industries, there are externalities, that is costs or revenues that are not felt by the business, but by society


[31-Oct-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society benefits the most when all costs or revenues *are* felt by businesses


[31-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
as if a businesses has positive externalities, the ideal point of production is higher than what profit alone would make the business do


[31-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if a business has negative externalities, the ideal point of production is lower than what profite alone would make the business do


[31-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
As some examples


[31-Oct-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
A negative externality is environmental damage incurred by mining


[31-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
A positive externality is improved worker productivity from using a library


[31-Oct-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, it is ideal to penalize the mining and subsidize the library.


[31-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare and education hav massive positive externalities.


[31-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
As does transportation.


[31-Oct-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, you can subsidize the shit out of them to try to correct the problem


[31-Oct-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you make them gov't-owned, you can *eliminate* the source of the problem


[31-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, gov't ownership does desensitive things to profit as a driving force, so it's not ideal for every service, the bulk of services should be private


[31-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but these big infrastructure services, things everybody needs


[31-Oct-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they should generally be public because of these huge positive externalities.


[31-Oct-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Macro Economics is one of the most important things you can learn in college because it actually provides objective understanding of why the US (and Russia and pretty much any country you can name) is fukked up.


[31-Oct-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is more than just making supply and demand meet, things businesses do to society matter.


[31-Oct-18 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
General question: what do *you* define as civilization?


[31-Oct-18 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
as a noun?


[31-Oct-18 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes.


[31-Oct-18 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the result of a large quantity of accumulated social capital, more or less


[31-Oct-18 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In my view, it's a subjective term defining "wherever the human in question feels comfortable".


[31-Oct-18 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
well, I don't disagree


[31-Oct-18 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that's a response to the moral use of the term.


[31-Oct-18 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thus, in my perspective, a Mongol nomad would consider the steppes to be his civilization.


[31-Oct-18 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
the words I used are very tricky things to pin down, but what I'm trying to say is:

(1) People give up individualism in favor of things that directly/indirectly require them to depend on others
(2) The dependence on others fosters specialization
(3) The dependence mandates meaningful interaction with constraints to preserve order
(4) The constraints imposed constitute civil behavior


[31-Oct-18 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds fair


[31-Oct-18 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Strictly speaking, it doesn't have to be people either


[31-Oct-18 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Animals do this too


[31-Oct-18 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmm


[31-Oct-18 04:17 AM] Dogman15#6007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

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The TRUTH About Universal Healthcare! (from a Canadian)
Obamacare, Trumpcare, Ryancare, Berniecare. Doesn't matter what you call it, when you hand over control of healthcare to the Government through a single-paye...
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[31-Oct-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the classic "I'm a well-off guy who had some troubles incomparable to anything the poor get in America, so since it isn't perfect, you shouldn't use it"


[31-Oct-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
A variant of BSABSVR


[31-Oct-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also got the usual "I talked about some minor problems and I've got to WAIT to see a DOCTOR, so clearly if I was dying I'd just die"


[31-Oct-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy can't stand the idea of any sort of priority to treatment.


[31-Oct-18 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in the US we sometimes hav people wait in the emergency room, dying, for hours that never get care.


[31-Oct-18 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I smell fallacy but I don't really have time to properly tear into this


[31-Oct-18 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm tired and busy tomorrow with important shit


[31-Oct-18 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just cherrypikking and arguing one flaw invalidates the whole system


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada and the UK are favorite targets of this because both tend to slightly underfund their healthcare, which causes huge wait times


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spain and Mexico hav different setups that aren't near as prone to this


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
>NHS
>_slightly_ underfunded


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's really underfunded now


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
you mean the tories said "literally fuck all poor people" and underfunded the shit out of it


[31-Oct-18 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Theresa May doesn't want to pay for shit


[31-Oct-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you actually fund the NHS properly, it's fine


[31-Oct-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Conservatives don't like it when poor people get healthcare


[31-Oct-18 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, the problem is anglo countries


[31-Oct-18 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
something about our culture inevitably leads to this idea that poor people don't deserve all this shit


[31-Oct-18 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so even when we begrudgingly giv it to them, we hamper it


[31-Oct-18 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
seems mysterious


[31-Oct-18 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DL9DFKa1D2G0&ved=2ahUKEwibmf7b36_eAhWE3FMKHYNxDiMQyCkwAHoECAkQBA&usg=AOvVaw1Z5urgrax4-b71WMOhs8kx


[31-Oct-18 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-world-ranking-uk-healthcare-worse-ireland-spain-slovenia-30th-lancet-a7744131.html

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The NHS is 'worse than healthcare in Ireland, Spain and Slovenia'
UK scores total of 84.6 out of 100, placing it on an equal footing with Cyprus, Qatar, Malta, Portugal and the Czech Republic
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/05/19/09/nhs-sign.jpg


[31-Oct-18 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
UK almost doing as badly as the US


[31-Oct-18 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
The argument based on waiting times is more or less
(1) There are longer waiting times in a single payer system versus in a private system
(2) Private systems are less accessible to lower-income people
(3) Absence of said lower-income people reduces wait times


[31-Oct-18 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
The problem with (3) is that now that they're not going, they can
(a) Get other people sick more easily
(b) Lose productivity
(c) Affect productivity of peers
and
(d) Become seriously ill due to avoidance of healthcare


[31-Oct-18 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is a net detriment of social capital, and an avoidable problem.


[31-Oct-18 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It is messed up if this is a reason you think that private healthcare is superior.


[31-Oct-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reading up on the reasons for Canada's wait times, it seems to be a mix of poor coordination and highly distributed bureaucracy


[31-Oct-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically hospitals don't know which doctors are available, may get the wrong funding amount, are in their own little chunk of a huge system, and aren't getting improvements made by other chunks


[31-Oct-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada actually spends a ton of its GDP on healthcare comparatively to other single-payer countries, but it spends it very very poorly


[31-Oct-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK meanwhile just doesn't hav the damn money


[31-Oct-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Constantly shortstaffed which then makes things more expensive


[31-Oct-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as to why it's an anglo thing, I guess it's because we tend to take large unilateral approaches that don't leave wiggle room to fix things.


[31-Oct-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of Europe has at least some private healthcare and has very flexible approaches to getting public healthcare delivered


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can already tell what will happen Thursday with the Mueller thing


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has just the NHS, and it's very very bureaucratic


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada is very bureaucratic as well, and it has queues localized to an area


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She'll make her announcement, be criticized, the right will go "WOW SO MUCH FOR THE LEFT BEING FOR WOMEN" and people will buy it


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, fukkin' queueing


[31-Oct-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very British concept


[31-Oct-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US meanwhile went so far into FREEEEEEDDOOOOOOOM


[31-Oct-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it demanded healthcare be every man for himself and the result is...not great


[31-Oct-18 04:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I am pretty sure May wants to make the NHS Private and sell to the private health service that she has investments in. I can't remember the name of it but they also work with the banks and handle transporting the money.


[31-Oct-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
May is gonna lose hard next election


[31-Oct-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit's a travesty and the people who voted for it were mostly dumb pensioners


[31-Oct-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't get younger


[31-Oct-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and without good NHS funding, they don't live longer either


[31-Oct-18 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Breakfast means breakfast


[31-Oct-18 05:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK16L2bB4Fo

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matterpedematterpede
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK16L2bB4Fo
Brexit Means Breakfast Compilation
It's amazing how many people confuse the word brexit with breakfast.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GK16L2bB4Fo/maxresdefault.jpg


[31-Oct-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-theresa-may-referendum-peoples-vote-final-say-protest-march-petition-a8608941.html

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Theresa May rules out another Brexit referendum despite hundreds o...
PM also says general election would not be in the ‘national interest’
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/10/24/22/Theresa-May.jpg


[31-Oct-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
She knows she'd lose


[31-Oct-18 05:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She should call another snap election.


[31-Oct-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
She won't


[31-Oct-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not unless the party forces her to


[31-Oct-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
She lost badly in the last election, not so badly to be tossed out


[31-Oct-18 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but enuff that legislation can stall


[31-Oct-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, the no-deal stuff is on fire https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/eu-roaming-charges-uk-brexit-latest-data-free-cost-holiday-a8609271.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/eu-roaming-charges-uk-brexit-latest-data-free-cost-holiday-a8609271.html
EU roaming charges will 'probably' return after Brexit, MPs warn
'It is probable that mobile roaming charges – abolished on an intra-EU basis – will return,' the cross-party committee warned
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/09/13/09/eu-roaming-charges.jpg


[31-Oct-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/30/a-no-deal-brexit-will-make-britain-less-safe-police-chiefs-warn-mps

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/30/a-no-deal-brexit-will-make-britain-less-safe-police-chiefs-warn-mps
No-deal Brexit will make Britain less safe, police chiefs warn MPs
Home affairs committee told it may become easier for overseas criminals in UK to evade arrest
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/0c26453a882bf3c3dc7f974a65324dead8ffa69d/0_132_3500_2100/master/3500.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=ebd58fb13f59f52b44e4d6c80792119e


[31-Oct-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tons of this kind of thing


[31-Oct-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/s-p-warns-that-no-deal-brexit-would-start-uk-recession-1.3680811

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S&P warns that no-deal Brexit would start UK recession
Ratings agency says inflation and unemployment would rise while house prices would fall
https://www.irishtimes.com/image-creator?id=1.3680808&origw=1440


[31-Oct-18 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brenter 2030


[31-Oct-18 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forced Euro adoption


[31-Oct-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, every single story about Brexit right now is negative


[31-Oct-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's either about how Britain will be royally fukked up the ass


[31-Oct-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
or how it'll fail massively at obligations to the rest of the world


[31-Oct-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only neutral stories are Farage saying stuff


[31-Oct-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this rate, we may see Brenter 2020


[31-Oct-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forced Euro adoption and all


[31-Oct-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Treat em like a Balkan state


[31-Oct-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, quite possible


[31-Oct-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If brexit even survives


[31-Oct-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it might not


[31-Oct-18 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forgot how fast British politics can go yea


[31-Oct-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Theresa May may end up forced to hold a referendum


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
on either accepting a shitt brexit deal


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
or not having brexit continue


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they need a deal with the EU


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
or they lose out on EVERYTHING


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that deal they hav to approve


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the house of commons, without approval by the people, will vote no


[31-Oct-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Theresa May's party is a minority in it


[31-Oct-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they send out referendum that says accept deal or bakk out


[31-Oct-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said deal may literally just be a list of like 2 things the UK gets


[31-Oct-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
with every other really important thing being in the EU gets them gone


[31-Oct-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
people would vote no


[31-Oct-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP Brexit


[31-Oct-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
6 days to midterms


[31-Oct-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
+2 GOP Senate pickups, Democratic House


[31-Oct-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MO and IN or AZ


[31-Oct-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be absolutely annoying when Mueller releases his report detailing Trump's crimes


[31-Oct-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Republicans just go "so what?"


[31-Oct-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
As they buttfukk civil rights in the courts


[31-Oct-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachment proceedings in House


[31-Oct-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
By 2020 the courts will be so red they can decide that elections weren't rigged when they were etc.


[31-Oct-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
nightmare if any huge shit goes down with the election


[31-Oct-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Land votes


[31-Oct-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So keep in mind on Brexit


[31-Oct-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the cutoff is May 2019


[31-Oct-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 8 months from now


[31-Oct-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a lot of time to secure a deal


[31-Oct-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
if there is NO deal


[31-Oct-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
people will be very mad


[31-Oct-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
because no deal means that suddenly the UK has to treat EU countries as foreign and vice versa


[31-Oct-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Air travel would be fukked along with immigration


[31-Oct-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possible that a referendum comes in December that pulls out of pulling out


[31-Oct-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, can almost gaurantee some judge will try to say that it's tyranny for a 51% majority of Democrats to win overall


[31-Oct-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho the US has never come close to good proportional representation


[31-Oct-18 10:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/china-rhino-horn-tiger-bone_us_5bd81babe4b07427610ab6eb

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The Chinese government has “signed a death warrant for imperiled rhinos and tigers in the wild," environmentalists warned.
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[31-Oct-18 11:59 AM] Mikey#7286
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/10/theres-a-new-record-holder-for-closest-human-object-to-the-sun/

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There’s a new record-holder for closest human object to the Sun
The Parker Solar Probe gets to within 42.7 million km, and it's just getting warm.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ObservingSunPoster-760x380.jpg


[31-Oct-18 12:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Neat


[31-Oct-18 12:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Getting to the sun is actually a lot harder than people think


[31-Oct-18 12:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Need a lotta delta V to do it


[31-Oct-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
gotta cancel out like the majority of earth's orbit pretty much


[31-Oct-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that article is like


[31-Oct-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"The relatively small, 685kg spacecraft needed to achieve a high speed in order to establish an orbit around the Sun—rather than getting drawn into the star's massive gravity well never to escape."


[31-Oct-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is just wrong lol


[31-Oct-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's already orbiting the sun at a very high speed being launched from earth, it needed to apply thrust to reduce that orbit to a smaller one


[31-Oct-18 12:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
https://i.imgur.com/WGOy3qT.png

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Delta-V Map of the Solar System - Updated
https://i.imgur.com/WGOy3qT.png


[31-Oct-18 12:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye you can see the delta v for most things isn't too much until you start trying to land or whatever


[31-Oct-18 12:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but for the sun its immensely hard to get close to it


[31-Oct-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I remember this too because in KSP one of the goals I had was to fly something into the sun for shits n giggles


[31-Oct-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it was actually a challenge because yeah you need a really powerful rocket to be able to even come close to doing that


[31-Oct-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It is true what they say about KSP teaching orbital mechanics rather well, something about being able to just interact with them and whatnot in a semi realistic sort of solar system


[31-Oct-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ya get a good feel for how hard things can be


[31-Oct-18 01:59 PM] Mikey#7286
I imagine the probe will have the same fate as cassini and Juno when it's mission is complete


[31-Oct-18 04:44 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6336869/First-footage-offers-proof-supermassive-black-hole-Milky-Way.html

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First footage offers further proof of supermassive black hole...
Telescopes in Chile have captured plumes of hot gas circling the celestial object at 30 per cent the speed of light, or around 201 million mph (320 million kph).
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/31/10/5607502-0-image-a-7_1540983229584.jpg


[31-Oct-18 05:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Not likely


[31-Oct-18 05:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Huh?


[31-Oct-18 05:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again the delta v required is too stronk


[31-Oct-18 05:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
those probes rammed themselves into the atmosphere so drag would put them into a decaying orbit without needing thrusters to do that


[31-Oct-18 05:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the sun dun really have much of an atmosphere tho until you get way too close anyways so yeah


[31-Oct-18 05:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it needs an insane amount of delta v to do that depending on its orbit


[31-Oct-18 05:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
https://i.imgur.com/IbNwjPL.png

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[31-Oct-18 05:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can see tho they chose to put it into there cus of the lower delta v requirement


[31-Oct-18 05:14 PM] LemonDrop#9571
with the best benefit of sciency data too


[31-Oct-18 05:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[31-Oct-18 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to crash into Saturn is that it's easy to do so and it avoids getting Earth microorganisms on Saturn's moons


[31-Oct-18 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason to crash into the sun and doing so is basically impossible.


[31-Oct-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[31-Oct-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
True


[31-Oct-18 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, like, it is far, far easier to leave the solar system than to get close to the sun.


[31-Oct-18 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to keep in mind is we are moving very fast around the sun, and to get to it, you need to cancel out all that velocity.


[31-Oct-18 06:25 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ye as I said


[31-Oct-18 06:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you weren't moving relative to the solar system it'd be easy to crash into the sun but most people do forget that we're orbiting it and everything we launch is too lol


[31-Oct-18 06:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not just magically floating in space


[31-Oct-18 06:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can see how they even managed to accomplish this too with their orbit <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Solar_Probe#Trajectory>


[31-Oct-18 06:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Using Venus' gravity well to gently scoot its orbit closer and closer


[31-Oct-18 06:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
big-ass rocket got it into that orbit to begin with but ye need something else like a planet's gravity to help out for the actual further scooting lol


[31-Oct-18 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/franco-s-tomb-defaced-in-spain-with-red-dove-painting-10884712

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Franco's tomb defaced in Spain with red dove painting
MADRID: A Spanish artist on Wednesday (Oct 31) painted a red dove along with the slogan "For Freedom" on the tomb of late dictator Francisco ...
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[31-Oct-18 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
👌


[31-Oct-18 08:05 PM] Nile#1441
Is his tomb watched over by anyone


[31-Oct-18 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-Oct-18 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1057703421778845696

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Ted Cruz (@tedcruz)
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Happy Halloween
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Twitter


[31-Oct-18 09:08 PM] Litrojia#0612
Not even the funniest thing to happen to his Twitter


[31-Oct-18 09:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
👏 Everyone 👏 needs 👏 a 👏 union
https://www.iww.org/content/join-one-big-union
Only rule: you can have no hiring powers in your job.

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[31-Oct-18 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Oct-18 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
George Clooney's participation in the Batman & Robin film some twenty years ago invalidates his entire argument tbf


[31-Oct-18 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
/s

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[31-Oct-18 11:55 PM] illumnious#7938
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[31-Oct-18 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well whjat did you expect form those dirty bearenstain bears, the wholesome ones are the bearenstein bears


[01-Nov-18 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/10/birthright-citizenship-other-countries-trump/574453/

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America Isn’t the ‘Only Country’ With Birthright Citizenship
The president incorrectly claims that America is the “only country” that gives citizenship to all babies born within its borders.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/10/GettyImages_935247520_toned/facebook.jpg?1540933598


[01-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the tl;dr here is *jus soli* was largely created to attract immigration and to help coloniialism integrate native populations


[01-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
*jus sanguinis* is instead preferred when you want to retain purity of culture etc.


[01-Nov-18 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of it is that *jus soli* helps avoid slavery and systems resembling it, as families automatically gain rights as generations are born


[01-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many places in Europe retain some conditional form of *jus soli*


[01-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea being that once a family is truly entenched and integrated and not going anywhere, they need rights.


[01-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as places that don't do that, there's the Middle East


[01-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
which has a lot of places where citizenship is incredibly conditional for all but the long established families in order to make sure cheap foreign workers are basically slaves


[01-Nov-18 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i've seen many acquaintances displaying pictures and vids of their trips to Dubai, while all i can think of is "how many Indians and Pakistanis die to make those buildings"


[01-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would seem to want to go to the Middle East model, and thereby make sure that we hav tons of immigrants that can be given wages low as fukk and treated as disposable cogs in the machine.


[01-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny enuff, Pakistan has *jus soli* citizenship


[01-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if the Arabs move to Pakistan, their kids will become citizens


[01-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if the Pakistanis move to Qatar and hav kids, those kids won't be citizens


[01-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor will their kids' kids and so on


[01-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd hav to live in Qatar continuously for 20 years to get citizenship


[01-Nov-18 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's shitty


[01-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's a recent new thing.


[01-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Trump basically wants to be Qatar.


[01-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and some places in the Middle East only do paternal *jus sanguinis*, because fukk women


[01-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Citizenship, and the lakk thereof, is often considered a weapon against groups you don't like.


[01-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can deny it, you can deny essentially anything else too.


[01-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people know this, and Trump may hav just torpedo'd GOP chances in a few races by talking about this.


[01-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[01-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At worst King in Iowa fucked himself


[01-Nov-18 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/top-general-fears-war-with-china-and-russia-at-the-same-time/ar-BBPavzo?li=BBqdg4K

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Top General Fears War With China and Russia at the Same Time
War between the US and China, inconceivable just a decade ago, is now a regular topic of analysis and conversation.


[01-Nov-18 01:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Already trade warring. Pearl harbor will be target one. 🛬


[01-Nov-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/us/politics/george-soros-bombs-trump.html

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By KENNETH P. VOGEL, SCOTT SHANE and PATRICK KINGSLEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/us/politics/george-soros-bombs-trump.html
How Vilification of George Soros Moved From the Fringes to the Mai...
On both sides of the Atlantic, a loose network of nationalists has used anti-Semitic imagery to portray Mr. Soros as the shadowy leader of a globalist cabal.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/31/us/politics/31dc-soros1/31dc-soros1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Nov-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Jew who hid from Nazis and fled the rise of Communism to fight both is now the prime target because Nazis and Communists can both agree that he's evil because he promotes such things as "tolerance" and "freedom"


[01-Nov-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And because both hav always been anti-Jew


[01-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a little bit about how he's Zionist even tho he massively disagrees with Israel.


[01-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/north-dakota-native-americans-votes-stolen.html

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The Native Americans Disenfranchised in North Dakota Are Back in C...
Native Americans’ ability to vote should not hinge on the competence of random officials like “Kurt.”
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[01-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
'There is no street sign identifying Jackson’s street. There is no number on his house. A state database identifies his street as “Unknown2.” Jackson would not be permitted to vote because, according to the state, he has no real address. '


[01-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally denying people's homes qualify as addresses to deny their voting rights.


[01-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because 1) Fukk homeless, they don't get voting rights even tho the constitution says they do and 2) Fukk native americans, they don't get voting rights cause they vote Democrat


[01-Nov-18 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, it is indeed getting worse, and the evidence says it's entirely unfounded https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brian-kemp-kris-kobach-voter-suppression.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru

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Is the Assault on Voting Rights Getting Worse, or Are We Just Noti...
Whether or not these voting hurdles actually affect election outcomes, they are outrageous, unjustified, and a drain on state resources.
https://compote.slate.com/images/ae0b669f-e2c1-4e14-a319-d93e4f306e25.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=1560x1040&offset=0x0


[01-Nov-18 07:27 AM] ononim#8141
> because both hav always been anti-Jew


[01-Nov-18 07:27 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund

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General Jewish Labour Bund
The General Jewish Labour Bund in Lithuania, Poland and Russia (Yiddish: אַלגעמײַנער ײדישער אַרבעטער בּונד אין ליטע פוילין און רוסלאַנד‎, Algemeyner Yidisher Arbeter Bund in Litah, Poyln un Rusland), generally called The...


[01-Nov-18 07:27 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

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Leon Trotsky
Leon Trotsky (; born Lev Davidovich Bronstein; 7 November [O.S. 26 October] 1879 – 21 August 1940) was a Russian revolutionary, Marxist theorist, and Soviet politician whose particular strain of Marxist thought is known as Trotskyism.
Initially supporting the Menshevik Inte...
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[01-Nov-18 08:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/31/asia-bibi-verdict-pakistan-court-overturns-blasphemy-death-sentence

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Asia Bibi: Pakistan court overturns blasphemy death sentence
Christian woman to be freed after being sentenced in 2010, accused of insulting prophet Muhammad
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[01-Nov-18 08:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim Nevermind the left hates Soros less because he's a Jew and more because he consistently funds programs to destabilize leftist missions. It's like, y'know: liberals hating on Putin because he ran interference on liberal democracies.


[01-Nov-18 08:31 AM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda) yay


[01-Nov-18 09:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) 👌


[01-Nov-18 10:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk could you give examples of Soros destabilizing leftist causes?


[01-Nov-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Funding anti-communists groups in Hungary, supporting the feudalist theocrat that is the Dalai Lama in political struggle against China. If I wasn't working at the moment I'd go and hunt down specefic cases. But whole he does give money to causes like Black Lives Matter and various social justice platforms the impression I get of Soros is that he doesn't want to see a fundamental shift in the system since most of them are comparatively white-washed civil rights issues. I don't even think he donates to Unions.


[01-Nov-18 10:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wouldn't say BLM is necessarily simply a "bleeding heart liberal" group, their cause does involve serious concerns


[01-Nov-18 10:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i do agree on the Dalai Lama part


[01-Nov-18 10:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[01-Nov-18 10:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
black lives matter is silly


[01-Nov-18 10:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's worse is that the Lama is actually xenophobic


[01-Nov-18 10:35 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just the way they say it is dumb too


[01-Nov-18 10:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why?


[01-Nov-18 10:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like why black lives specifically, how about everyone


[01-Nov-18 10:36 AM] LemonDrop#9571
if they really cared about equal treatment they'd not pay such specific attention to race


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except that's not how anti-racism works lol


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] LemonDrop#9571
anti racism is racism


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
White lives matter


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[01-Nov-18 10:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anti racism is not racism, it is merely an affirmation of minorities' importance face the system they live in, which squares them into boxes


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Was it you that I was arguing with


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes?


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I recall someone saying you can't be racist against white people at some point


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and that just gave me a thousand keks


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yes, it was me


[01-Nov-18 10:38 AM] LemonDrop#9571
oof


[01-Nov-18 10:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I will admit that i was acting kind of by impulse back them


[01-Nov-18 10:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my main issue with BLM was how they went about getting their message across. a shit ton of them were calling for cop deaths, there were full violent riots, at one point they became a deployable army for liberal media to counteract conservative media protests which just furthered the violence in super unhelpful ways... it was a mess


[01-Nov-18 10:39 AM] LemonDrop#9571
take a trip to Africa and maybe ya can experience that stunning lack of racism against white peeps


[01-Nov-18 10:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop Rhodesia and South Africa had apartheid regimes before the black minorities regained power btw


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their cause was good, their means were questionable


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] LemonDrop#9571
>south africa


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)'s, in particular, was fucking cringeworthy


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] ononim#8141
There's no systematic racism against white people in the "west" but yes, different ethnicities can experience racism proportionally different in different places


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] LemonDrop#9571
"systematic"


[01-Nov-18 10:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gerrymandering to give the 5% white population the most power made administrative maps of Rhodesia look quite funny


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
funny word you got there


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, because you don't know what it means


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
last time I checked the only racism in america left is caused by old people and personal beliefs


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] ononim#8141
lol


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop oh my fucking god


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] ononim#8141
And I didn't even mention america :^)


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You literally believe that racism is just an opinion?


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
hate to burst your bubble but there's no such thing as systematic racism in this country


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] ononim#8141
Or who is systematically opressed there (^:


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] LemonDrop#9571
because guess what


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop uh, there is


[01-Nov-18 10:41 AM] ononim#8141
Say it to native americans


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sys·tem·at·ic
/ˌsistəˈmadik/Submit
adjective
done or acting according to a fixed plan or system; methodical.
"a systematic search of the whole city"
synonyms:    structured, methodical, organized, orderly, planned, systematized, regular, routine, standardized, standard;


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
there is no planned racism


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the laws for such things were abolished


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gentrification, disproportionate poverty, unfair court and police systems


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
there's people with such beliefs still but that is not systematic


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Changing the law won't change the people immediately


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
That's their fault


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can't blame the country and its non-racist inhabitants for their own issues


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] LemonDrop#9571
get fukd


[01-Nov-18 10:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the country was built by these people


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
waah waah


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] ononim#8141
Lemon dear, we already know you're too dense to understand anything non explicitly stated, no need to remind us of it


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
please let me pay reparations for my 300 year old ancestor's crimes


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>calling me a crybaby
Easy there, Charlie Kirk


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
because you know


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that's who I am


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
or you know


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
how about we just don't give a shit about the past


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
because everyone did terrible things back then


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The past cannot be ignored


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
sure


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because it lingers


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but it doesn't mean I'm responsible for it


[01-Nov-18 10:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ffs


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
if your grandfather was a nazi does that mean you should pay the price of their political affililation


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
of course not


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop you will be, if you continue your compliance with this shitty, irrational system


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
learn from th epast but dont hold the descendants accountable for the sins of their ancestors


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
No, but if you're live in the mansion he got after he purged jews from it


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Yeah so?


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
That's a bit differnet, don't you think?


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
You didn't ask for that


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you can't be expected to answer for the crimes of people in the past


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>you didn't ask for that


[01-Nov-18 10:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless the descendants are also massive douches but those are different cases


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>when you could just, you know, donate it


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] ononim#8141
Yet you still live in that mansion :^)


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes please let me donate my house


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>or help the black cause


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] LemonDrop#9571
why would I donate it


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's mine


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because it is not necessary


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont live in a mansion


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm not going to suck the dick of minority groups just because my ancestors did something bad


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't need a mansion to live, good god


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i liv ein a bedroom in my parent's hosue


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I am going to live my life


[01-Nov-18 10:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Your luxurious, unnecessary life?


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
paying this much attention to race makes you racist btw


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I on the other hand am not


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop LMAO


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] ononim#8141
Until the AI overlord reassembles you into paperclips, of course 🤖


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
L
M
A
O


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont want a mansion unless i had people living there with me, a mansion is too big for one or 2 people


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it's hard for you to imagine


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm screencapping that


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but you can actually exist in a world without paying attention to people's race


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
scary concept I know


[01-Nov-18 10:46 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's almost like it doesn't matter


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lemon, dearie


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everyone is racist to an extent


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I wouldn't call it that


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
racism implies intent


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You should probably read some theory on anti-racism, tbh


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
everyone naturally is attracted to that which is similar to them


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
humans in general are like that, it's how we operate


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
MLK was more radical then you think, for example


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] LemonDrop#9571
so I'm going to feel more comfortable with people of my own culture/gender/etc


[01-Nov-18 10:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop so, you admit you are racist?


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that doesn't make me sexist cus I like hanging out with guys more than girls


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How is that not racism?


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's survival instinct


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just being human


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
see unlike you I don't constantly think about race and gender and etc


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I just do my life


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the only time I have to is when I debate stupids like you


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because you're a white person, and, thus favored by the system


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not nessacary for surcical in today;s world but we're still animals with basic instincts


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
o boo hoo


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
better fuckin hang myself on the cross I guess


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Try learning what the life of a black person truly is


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
pay for the sins of my ancestors


[01-Nov-18 10:48 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just because I have certain genetic things


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just to see the suffering and judgement they have to go through


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Day


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Idk man


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel liek that varies form location to location


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I live with people of different races and go to shcool/work with others as well


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
they seem to be just the same as me


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you know, like in a normal civilized society


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Black skin leaves a social mark on you


[01-Nov-18 10:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They only seem to be because they are forced to.


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in a majority blakc population at the moment and things seem pretty good here


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
white skin leaves a social mark on you  too apparently


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no.


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
or maybe you forgot the part about me needing to pay for my ancestor's crimes


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the default.


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
d e f a u l t


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I did not claim you have to pay in cash ffs.


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I have to pay in some way


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you're just being racist


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
against white people of course


[01-Nov-18 10:50 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just propagating the problem


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>racism against white people


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it may also be hard to imagine but not all white people were histroically super racist


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lemon, have you even read anti-racist theory?


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you're generalizing an entire race by the actions of few


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even if just the basics? Kimberlé Crenshaw, MLK, those?


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I think that's exactly what racism is


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
unless my assessment that all black people are criminals is accurate


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but when I say that I'm suddenly racist :^)


[01-Nov-18 10:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on why they are


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you say "black people commit more crime because of their financial and personal situation", then i'll believe in you


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Also idk if you know but back in those times things were a lot different


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it was totally legal to discriminate based on race


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not too different from today tho


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that's what a lot of the fighting was for


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
now our legal system is fair and equal


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People are still scared of brown and black people


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
jobs are entirely discrimination free


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
there's nothing systemic to bitch about


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There is


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the only remaining racism is in the people who propigate it


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like you :^)


[01-Nov-18 10:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Housing


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Day-to-day treatment


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Overall disproportionate poverty


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
that's not the government's fault


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and in everything that matters it's equal


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, but it is someone's fault


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is.


[01-Nov-18 10:54 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's also a lot of their own fault too


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, but to imply that this problem is "minuscule" is a painful denial of reality.


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] LemonDrop#9571
You're not even American


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm Brazilian, and i know well how racism works in my country, at least.


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you probably think this country is just a bunch of nazis running around executing them in the streets for all I know with all the bullshit propagnda that people pump out


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I never have witnessed racism irl


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Racial democracy" has been strongly debunked, for one example.


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I am sure it exists, especially more in the south


[01-Nov-18 10:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>i have never witnessed it


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but in the cities I've lived in which are mostly north/west I have never seen it


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then search for it


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no you dumb fuck


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You'll find it in plenty


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
the point is that racism is not common in America


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and is generally looked down upon


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is?


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is common


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
[citation needed]


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Racism of the "niggers suck" sort is not respected, sure, but more subtle forms of it still happen


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] LemonDrop#9571
don't shit on our country cus you live in a country like brazil


[01-Nov-18 10:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brb


[01-Nov-18 10:57 AM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not the same here


[01-Nov-18 10:57 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you're just being gay


[01-Nov-18 10:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
if you're going to say the subtle attractions I have to people who are similar to me is "racism" then yeah no hope for you


[01-Nov-18 10:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
since again that's just biology and how the human brain behaves


[01-Nov-18 10:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
even small children with no idea of what race or politics is will gravitate to members of their own race/ethnicity


[01-Nov-18 10:58 AM] LemonDrop#9571
there's been studies on that too which just show it's how the brain works


[01-Nov-18 10:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
such things do not cause cultural disparity either


[01-Nov-18 10:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
there's a lot of damage left over from the past but the further we go the less and less prevalent it becomes


[01-Nov-18 10:59 AM] LemonDrop#9571
everyone is treated equally by the law in this country and that's all that is needed


[01-Nov-18 11:00 AM] LemonDrop#9571
you cannot force people to not be racist on their own accord either but again society has changed in most places at least to look down upon it heavily to the point of people like me never seeing it (but like I said I know it still happens in the south a lot because that's the culture there)


[01-Nov-18 11:01 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I think people like you want to be fighting for something cool but forget that the civil rights movement was like many decades ago


[01-Nov-18 11:02 AM] LemonDrop#9571
and ironically this recent resurgence of such things is only making the problems worse, now I legit am thinking less of people based on such affiliations like "black lives matter" because it's mindbogglingly retarded


[01-Nov-18 11:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
not to mention it's re-introducing concepts like hard segregation for all these "safe spaces" or events that only a particular race is allowed to participate in


[01-Nov-18 11:03 AM] LemonDrop#9571
just insanity


[01-Nov-18 11:07 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Also trying to convince me that I'm terrible and that I should be giving all my hard earned value in life to minorities by saying it's all my ancestor's fault (which isn't even true in the context of America as mine are from Europe) is not going to be very effective either


[01-Nov-18 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm pretty sure my ancestors had  nothing to do with the african slave trade era


[01-Nov-18 11:08 AM] LemonDrop#9571
Even if they did I couldn't give a shit less


[01-Nov-18 11:08 AM] LemonDrop#9571
I cannot change history


[01-Nov-18 11:09 AM] LemonDrop#9571
my advantage in life may be some long result of all that, but you could say that about anything


[01-Nov-18 11:09 AM] LemonDrop#9571
like oh damn americans how dare your country be so big and prosperous, go give all your money to all the other failed countries of the world


[01-Nov-18 11:09 AM] LemonDrop#9571
no doubt I'm better off than most people in the world due to simply being born and living in America


[01-Nov-18 11:10 AM] LemonDrop#9571
but acting like you owe someone especially for something you had no control over is just retarded


[01-Nov-18 12:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you cannot change history, but you can prevent it from repeating


[01-Nov-18 12:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and you can fix the errors of the past


[01-Nov-18 12:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
one more thing, @LemonDrop


[01-Nov-18 12:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't plan on repeating history but I am not going to unfuck past errors in such a way


[01-Nov-18 12:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that racism survived in the USA for a hundred years, perhaps more, despite the country having fought a fucking **civil war over it** is pretty definitive proof that history lingers


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the civil war was about owning slaves


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not racism


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
similar things but yeah


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>owning slaves was not racism


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
owning slaves is racism


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but the war was about that aspect mainly


[01-Nov-18 12:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not full civil rights


[01-Nov-18 12:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Huge things like that take time to change in society


[01-Nov-18 12:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.brookings.edu/research/time-for-justice-tackling-race-inequalities-in-health-and-housing/

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https://www.brookings.edu/research/time-for-justice-tackling-race-inequalities-in-health-and-housing
Time for justice: Tackling race inequalities in health and housing
Dayna Bowen Matthew, Edward Rodrigue, and Richard Reeves discuss racial inequalities in housing and healthcare in the United States.
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/doctor_patient002.jpg


[01-Nov-18 12:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just one article i found to corroborate my argument


[01-Nov-18 12:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you'll find hundreds of articles and studies on similar issues all proving the same thing: **systemic racism is alive and well in the United States**


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Studies written by doofuses


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i am not sure i'm going to trust some rando pulling claims out of his ass


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
See the thing about this kind of thing is there's no right answer


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people can fabircate an answer any way by looking at the data


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can look at the same data and say like "well this just means those of african american decent are more likely to be criminals" and end it there


[01-Nov-18 12:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://www.crf-usa.org/brown-v-board-50th-anniversary/the-color-of-justice.html

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http://www.crf-usa.org/brown-v-board-50th-anniversary/the-color-of-justice.html
The Color of Justice - Constitutional Rights Foundation
In 1991 in Los Angeles, a bystander videotaped police officers beating Rodney King, a black man. People in the African-American community had long complained of cases of police brutality. At long last, they had clear evidence--a videotape. But at the trial in state court, the...


[01-Nov-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the data does not have an opinion


[01-Nov-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans do


[01-Nov-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I don't care about these humans


[01-Nov-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[01-Nov-18 12:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
"The question remains whether these statistics come from racism in the criminal justice system or from other causes. Social scientists and politicians have argued about this question for decades."


[01-Nov-18 12:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this article even admits it doesn't know


[01-Nov-18 12:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm going with "other causes"


[01-Nov-18 12:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```The RAND Corporation study found that convicted African-Americans were more likely than whites to go to prison. And their sentences were longer. “This disparity,” the study concluded, “suggests that probation officers, judges, and parole boards are exercising discretion in sentencing or release decisions in ways that result in de facto discrimination against blacks.” De facto means the discrimination exists in fact, but without legal authority. It may not be intentional.```


[01-Nov-18 12:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that or their crimes are more worthy of prison sentences


[01-Nov-18 12:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
who woulda thunk


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's always other answers


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all just speculation


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
people like to imagine there's some huge problem


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
solution: don't commit crimes


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I wouldn't even trust a court to decide my fate


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's just an imperfect process


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"solution: don't commit crimes"


[01-Nov-18 12:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie look at this mofo lol


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
is it that hard


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes, because poor people often don't have much of a choice in their lives, or are easily persuaded into the crime world


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
crime is not an issue of free will


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it has way deeper roots than that


[01-Nov-18 12:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
There's always a choice


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they choose to break the law and they are punished


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
just because you're poor does not mean you get a pass to break the law


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i did not say they should have a free pass


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
what you mean to say is that humans are terrible


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and that they get desperate


[01-Nov-18 12:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
in which case I can agree


[01-Nov-18 12:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes, humanity is indeed horrible, and desperation, lack of education, and lack of fairness is the issue at hand here


[01-Nov-18 12:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there is no lack of fairness


[01-Nov-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
a lot of the problem is again on the families themselves


[01-Nov-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I heard this hilarious news broadcast where it was like talkin about some black family with 8 children bitching about how expensive it was to live


[01-Nov-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and I was like yeah I have a great idea


[01-Nov-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
how about don't have 8 kids and sentence them to a life of being poor and screwing them over like that


[01-Nov-18 12:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's their own fault


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
there is a lack of fairness. the USA is not the perfect country.


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
of course


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it tries to be in the law at least


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
only tries, and not always with success


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes but that's all you can do


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
or you can adopt my philosophy


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI need not try


[01-Nov-18 12:13 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI is perfect (Relatively)


[01-Nov-18 12:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>he tries to desperately change the subject because he knows he sucks at it


[01-Nov-18 12:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sure thing


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do not suck at it


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more like I am presenting you with the true woke perspective


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you're merely dabbling in bullshit


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
bla bla society this that all that will not mean anything in 50 years


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
uh-huh. you're presenting yourself as "woke" with no research whatsoever?


[01-Nov-18 12:15 PM] LemonDrop#9571
woke af fam


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sure, whatever makes you sleep at night.


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I got me some anecdotes and philosophy


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you have books


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
books, anecdotes, and philosophy


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Says the person who has never stepped foot in America


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
how those anecdotes workin for ya


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>says the person who hasn't read even Crenshaw


[01-Nov-18 12:16 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Good


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd probably think it's retarded


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>says the person who hasn't even read a political book in his scholarly life


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd probably think they are all retarded :^)


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if they don't talk about AI then what do they know


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes, and that's surely healthy


[01-Nov-18 12:17 PM] LemonDrop#9571
clearly just unenlightened commoners


[01-Nov-18 12:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] when is Lemon getting his second duck


[01-Nov-18 12:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm awaiting with interest


[01-Nov-18 12:18 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it is true to a degree


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
People who write such books often do not have perspective on things like new technology especially


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they do, actually


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things are changing fast, much faster than at any point in history


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ever read Zigmund Bauman


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nick Land


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
some general concepts apply but yeah again


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI revolution is what people should be philosophizing about


[01-Nov-18 12:19 PM] LemonDrop#9571
since that's the near future, something which was unimaginable to people before the 20th centaury


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fine, but when is AI gonna evolve to a level where it can comprehend and solve human issues


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
~50 years


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
imo


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
def within the next 100


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
our social and environmental problems might as well get much, much worse by then


[01-Nov-18 12:20 PM] LemonDrop#9571
indeed


[01-Nov-18 12:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we need a guarantee that it will work


[01-Nov-18 12:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think we're doing fine tho


[01-Nov-18 12:21 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not perfect but we're always slowly improving


[01-Nov-18 12:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we're not, our capitalist economic system is unstable and unsuitable when it comes to heat physics


[01-Nov-18 12:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we might be improving, but i remain skeptical


[01-Nov-18 12:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Capitalism is great


[01-Nov-18 12:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
our organizations for ambient preservation and against climate change keep setting the objectives higher as the countries don't comply with them


[01-Nov-18 12:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
capitalism is not great, *at all*


[01-Nov-18 12:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
at least not from a humanist point of view


[01-Nov-18 12:22 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Commies everywhere


[01-Nov-18 12:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
cold war aint over yet


[01-Nov-18 12:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying it was supposed to end under our system


[01-Nov-18 12:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but ye socialism is stupid and ur gay


[01-Nov-18 12:23 PM] LemonDrop#9571
capitalism is best


[01-Nov-18 12:24 PM] LemonDrop#9571
prove me wrong :^)


[01-Nov-18 12:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
good point, Ben Shapiro


[01-Nov-18 12:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
lemme tell you


[01-Nov-18 12:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*boy, where do i start*


[01-Nov-18 12:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
colonialism would be a good starting point, but again, capitalism is such an irrational system with so many flaws that i'm dizzied with the arguments i could make


[01-Nov-18 12:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the international system still favours either the old colonialist powers, or the ones that have money


[01-Nov-18 12:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
https://img.memecdn.com/it-will-work-this-time-guys_o_7238940.jpg

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https://img.memecdn.com/it-will-work-this-time-guys_o_7238940.jpg


[01-Nov-18 12:26 PM] LemonDrop#9571
ur a meme


[01-Nov-18 12:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, forget about Thomas Sankara


[01-Nov-18 12:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or Tito in Yugoslavia


[01-Nov-18 12:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
whose countries actually worked, and arguably better than after their socialist regimes collapsed


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think the most ideal systems exist in the digital age anyways


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's clear no one can be trusted with power in anything


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so decentralization of all things avoids that


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
then don't put anyone in power


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i agree with decentralization


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
currency like Bitcoin, networking like Tor


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it can only be achieved due to the magic of cryptography


[01-Nov-18 12:27 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's not something humans can do


[01-Nov-18 12:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but behind the digital age, there is still the old capitalist system that's used to build the hardware, and make sure that the minority of people who can afford these electronics, can afford them


[01-Nov-18 12:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm not an avid believer in tech-anarchism


[01-Nov-18 12:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I am lol


[01-Nov-18 12:28 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it already works


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the government would love to shut down things like the BitTorrent protocol but they can't


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's decentralized and it does have legit use


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's just not controllable anyways


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
same with Tor


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, we can use smartphones and internet to organize ourselves politically, but the system is not inherently egalitarian. a few companies still monopolize the internet.


[01-Nov-18 12:29 PM] LemonDrop#9571
These's many decentralized things popping up these days too


[01-Nov-18 12:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd say in some senses IRC is in just the sense it dun have the traditional model of one server


[01-Nov-18 12:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so, Lemon, tell me


[01-Nov-18 12:30 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and stuff like <https://joinmastodon.org/> for social networking


[01-Nov-18 12:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
do you believe we should use tech to better govern ourselves directly, or do you believe we should submit to an AI dictatorship


[01-Nov-18 12:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm getting confusing vibes from you rn


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
AI is not a dictator


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's going to kill everyone lol


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
(most likely)


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's a chance it could govern humans but yeah very low imo


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
in order to kill humanity, it'll have to enforce its agenda


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if that is the case tho then sure you will have to submit


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'll be much more enlightened


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
more than any human can hope to be


[01-Nov-18 12:31 PM] LemonDrop#9571
intelligence is what really matters


[01-Nov-18 12:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i do agree that intelligence does matter (political intelligence and resource management in specific), but the issue is that we'll have to use resources to build up our AI-producing capacities. resources and brains.


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
more developed countries, more brains.


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay I've had enough of this


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and how to develop a country? exactly, not with capitalism.


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd be like looking at a bunch of ants to put it into some comprehensible perspective


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm muting Lemon next time he talks about AI

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[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
The ants just dun get it


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
thanks, byte


[01-Nov-18 12:33 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you'd know better than them even if they protest


[01-Nov-18 12:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you had their interests in mind of course, which would be the case in that instance


[01-Nov-18 12:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
well not exactly but that's this hypothetical at least


[01-Nov-18 12:34 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Mute me hard bb, censor my ability to discuss what I believe


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes, the only, *only*, topic you know something about


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean it's not about knowing


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know some about AI sure but I wouldn't call myself an expert in that field


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's more just belief


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
we're just encouraging you to learn how to argue about more than one issue


[01-Nov-18 12:35 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No


[01-Nov-18 12:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
seriously, Lemon, read a book. read what we link to you, and stop calling my pdf's "stupid".


[01-Nov-18 12:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this is anti-intellectualism, btw


[01-Nov-18 12:36 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't have time for that


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
the human brain is limited and can only hold a fixed amount of info


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I populate mine with mostly important stuff


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i don't know, i've seen people who are quite capable of knowing info about more than one topic


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sure, it takes some getting used to


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] LemonDrop#9571
when you know a lot about everything you're not good at anything


[01-Nov-18 12:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but just *some* reading is not only important, it's quite ethical


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
specialization is the key to success in our society


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's just an excuse for not reading


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's like distributing a workload across many brains


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
admit it, Lemon


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
each brain handles a small section of a larger problem


[01-Nov-18 12:38 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because problems are so big now that no one human can know the solution in a good way


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and they only get bigger as time goes on


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] byte[]#2610
There's a reason I put a duck in your nickname and this is it


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No you did it because you thought you were funny


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Because you don't listen


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No, I don't care


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's a difference


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if you don't care, then why do you argue about these issues


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
not that


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] byte[]#2610
One implies the other


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't care about byte's petty warnings


[01-Nov-18 12:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
last i heard, you did care about anti-racist discourse in the US


[01-Nov-18 12:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Me being able to talk here is of no consequence to me


[01-Nov-18 12:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
can always talk elsewhere, I'll always be talking somewhere


[01-Nov-18 12:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if you don't even care in the first place, then why do you even bother coming here?


[01-Nov-18 12:40 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you want to bury your head in the sand from differing opinions then go ahead


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>says he, as he buries his head in the sand about human issues


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No I just reject them


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again there's a difference


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I consider everything that is told to me


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
previous evidence says you don't


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's why I don't block people


[01-Nov-18 12:41 PM] LemonDrop#9571
never have, never will


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
censorship even if its self induced results in ignorance


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] byte[]#2610
oh man the irony


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
freedom of speech is absolutely useless if no side is willing to listen


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Hardly


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
again I do listen


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and consider the points


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
er, you don't


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just think they're retarded


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
😂


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] byte[]#2610
you probably don't block anyone because so few people want to talk to you


[01-Nov-18 12:42 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my belief is not compatible


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it'd be like if you started telling me all sorts of religious stuff


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd listen but ignore it because it means nothing to me


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
then you admit you're not open to arguing about it?


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
wut


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I have been arguing about it


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's not listening, neither is it considering the points


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's how you know I'm listening


[01-Nov-18 12:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
again, you dismiss evidence we post as "dumb", and don't read it at all


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because it won't change what I believe


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all stuff I've seen before too


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so, you assume that firsthand?


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
because it's not something convincing


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you don't lol


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
if you could give me proof that something I'm doing for example is like


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
murdering black people actively


[01-Nov-18 12:44 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'd be very inclined to listen


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but no it's all just wishy washy society bs and where to point a finger of blame


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you yourself said, your brain "cannot handle all information"


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't give a shit and it's not going to change that I think


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
then why are you claiming you know the  political issues we post, before even reading about them


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I never claimed to


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I said I have beliefs


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
there's a difference


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] byte[]#2610
you just did, though


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Where


[01-Nov-18 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
er, scroll up?


[01-Nov-18 12:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
my screen is much larger than yours


[01-Nov-18 12:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and?


[01-Nov-18 12:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
More like show me


[01-Nov-18 12:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sec


[01-Nov-18 12:46 PM] LemonDrop#9571
If you cannot quote something then you are wrong


[01-Nov-18 12:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```I do not suck at it
more like I am presenting you with the true woke perspective
you're merely dabbling in bullshit
bla bla society this that all that will not mean anything in 50 years```


[01-Nov-18 12:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
truth is a belief


[01-Nov-18 12:47 PM] LemonDrop#9571
woke is sarcastic


[01-Nov-18 12:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
boy, you sure are a confusing asshat


[01-Nov-18 12:48 PM] LemonDrop#9571
things that are true are what we believe and can justify


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I believe these things and I can justify them with evidence


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```lol
Says the person who has never stepped foot in America
how those anecdotes workin for ya```


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no one really knows what is fact


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
also what's that got to do with it


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you are judging this country without living here


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that's like just ignorant as fuk


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I specifically said even my pespective of America is limited cus I know that


[01-Nov-18 12:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>says he, as he judges the day to day lives of black people he does not know


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I've only lived on the west coast so idk much about the south and how common racism is there


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but again I have never seen it in places where I reside


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so, you've never stepped foot in the Deep South


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you haven't even been here


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
thus, you don't know the US too well


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I've been to the south


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know the portion of the US and like to think it's reasonably homogenous to that


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not pretty


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
despite claiming you know more than me


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lmao


[01-Nov-18 12:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
when it comes to merica I think I know more than a brazillian


[01-Nov-18 12:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wew


[01-Nov-18 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Top cunt


[01-Nov-18 12:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```I never claimed to know the political issues you mention beforehand
I said I have beliefs
there's a difference```


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
those aren't political issues


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that is a "I know more about being an american because it's what I am"


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and how is that not political?


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but only within the limited region I've visited and etc


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Being an american is not political lmao


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nationality is inherently political


[01-Nov-18 12:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it could simply revolve around what foods there are here


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
sure in some arbitrary way


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that's not what people mean when they say political


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
And like I said


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do not pretend to be dank mlg america expert


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I just know more than you lol


[01-Nov-18 12:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yet your previous comments imply that you do indeed pretend to be an expert


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Where


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
again, i posted three examples


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you didn't


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
You're just arguing semantics now too


[01-Nov-18 12:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's getting tiresome lol


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes, it's getting tiresome, because your means of arguing are quite childish


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Lemon IRL

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[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
>childish


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
says u


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
again, you basically said "no u"


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no u


[01-Nov-18 12:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
are you implying that's not childish at all


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I'm implying it's effective :^)


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you think it is


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I know it is


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
protip: it's not


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
leaves you without words


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
how can you respond to a no u


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
perfect play


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] byte[]#2610
If everything you say is your opinion then why do you present yourself as representing the truth of the matter


[01-Nov-18 12:56 PM] byte[]#2610
You can't have it both ways


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
But you're trying to


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Truth is belief as I said


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so it's an opinion in the end


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Horseshit


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
byte is like


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
weaksauce meta-argument, tbh


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
xd what's epistemology


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Lemon is like


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
xd what's empiricism


[01-Nov-18 12:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
epistemology is the science, logic, of knowlege


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
that is data yes but it is not truth


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
data cannot form opinions as I said


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
humans form opinions and call it truth


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
when much data supports a standpoint the truth becomes stronger


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it can be dismantled at any time


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that line of thought does not make much sense tbh


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
e.g. the laws of physics can (and have) change


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and poof your equations which were true no longer are


[01-Nov-18 12:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that's how it goes, we just learn more to modify what truth is


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] byte[]#2610
so it's a semantic argument


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck you, tbh


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wait, laws of physics have changed over time?


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
yes


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so, people floated in the air back in the olden days?


[01-Nov-18 12:59 PM] byte[]#2610
begone, thot.


[01-Nov-18 01:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he's just gone to #memes-and-shitposts


[01-Nov-18 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
AH FINALLY


[01-Nov-18 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
no more spam


[01-Nov-18 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
~~untill nebby starts to go on~~


[01-Nov-18 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/don-t-vote-our-homophobic-racist-dad-missouri-candidate-s-n929486

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Don’t vote for our ‘homophobic’ and ‘racist’ dad, Missou...
“I can’t imagine him being in any level of government,” said the daughter of Steve West, a Republican vying for a Missouri House seat.
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[01-Nov-18 01:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] thank you

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[01-Nov-18 02:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWmythiBlobCool:


[01-Nov-18 02:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also yeah sounds like Missouri to me


[01-Nov-18 02:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Usually Republicans here try to hide this but sometimes you get an Akin moment


[01-Nov-18 02:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a lot of them it seems


[01-Nov-18 04:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sheesh Lemondrop


[01-Nov-18 04:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like he bullshitted the entire night about how a thing like "blakk people are targeted by laws and then punished extra hard when violating them and not being white" isn't systemic racism


[01-Nov-18 04:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
As if "Yeah I've singled out your group so that if YOU do this thing, you get 5x the punishment" isn't a systematic way to target said group because said group can just not do said thing (this is basically moving the goalposts from it being about targeting/effect to it being bout personal responsibility, a favorite tactic of hardline conservatives).


[01-Nov-18 04:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then went into his usual rant mode.


[01-Nov-18 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/QgSaomupZig

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[01-Nov-18 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Maher makes reference to the fact that nobody likes PC culture


[01-Nov-18 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Pulling up the actual study


[01-Nov-18 04:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, in regards to voting restrictions, https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-do-voting-restrictions-affect-elections/

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How Much Do Voting Restrictions Affect Elections?
Welcome to FiveThirtyEight’s weekly politics chat. The transcript below has been lightly edited. sarahf (Sarah Frostenson, politics editor): From voter roll pur…
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[01-Nov-18 04:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The table showing party views on each voting rights question is interesting


[01-Nov-18 04:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
it seems like Democrats actually mostly think voter ID should be a thing, despite the lakk of voter fraud and it being highly discriminatory


[01-Nov-18 04:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
But even more interestingly, there's bipartisanism all over the place


[01-Nov-18 04:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans at the ground level actually do about half want to expand ability to vote


[01-Nov-18 04:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at the level of the actual politicians, they almost never support such things.


[01-Nov-18 04:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess it's gonna take a lot of state ballot initiatives.


[01-Nov-18 04:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, sadly, no-excuse absentee isn't popular


[01-Nov-18 04:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller accusation falling apart lol


[01-Nov-18 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it only took a day or so for the whole try at defamation to fall appart


[01-Nov-18 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy who started it has even been blacklisted by his own mother on twitter because he tried to use her as the phone hotline


[01-Nov-18 04:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus


[01-Nov-18 04:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, I don't think it's enuff to giv Democrats the bump they need


[01-Nov-18 04:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Senate gonna remain Republican


[01-Nov-18 04:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even with the right blatantly out to discriminate and with a complete defanging of the liberals being the ones making shit up, old people vote mainly based on "what the hell happened to the 50s, when blakks and gays stayed under the radar?"


[01-Nov-18 04:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tho Heidi Heitkamp might win ND simply for the fact that the natives are really unhappy and the tribes are gonna put people right in the polling places to print new tribal ID


[01-Nov-18 04:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would make things absolutely hilarious.


[01-Nov-18 04:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah she's gone, McCaskill may hang on tho


[01-Nov-18 04:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never been not tied


[01-Nov-18 04:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[01-Nov-18 04:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
ND has automatic voter registration


[01-Nov-18 04:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who livs there can vote if they get to the polling place with some way to prove they are in fact North Dakotan


[01-Nov-18 04:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if the tribes bus like every single tribe member to the polls, with even scant documents, and print tribal IDs on the spot


[01-Nov-18 04:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they could hav like 90% voter turnout


[01-Nov-18 04:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of those weird cases where a state made moves to both make voting easier and harder.


[01-Nov-18 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voting laws are gettign weird


[01-Nov-18 04:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, in a sane democracy


[01-Nov-18 04:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
any citizen can vote without any registration BS


[01-Nov-18 04:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
at any polling place they want to


[01-Nov-18 04:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
for candidates based on where they reside


[01-Nov-18 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my state requires registration but after that it;s jsut walk in state your name and adress and thye hand you a ballot


[01-Nov-18 04:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
while showing ID that was given to them for free (or paid for only if they were not poor and could thus easily afford it)


[01-Nov-18 04:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US however


[01-Nov-18 04:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Has this idea that you should hav to register to be granted your rights


[01-Nov-18 04:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
that you should hav to pay money for ID you need to use to exercise basic rights and travel


[01-Nov-18 04:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
that that ID should be whatever the fukk they decided on at the time and obsolete 10 years later without free replacement because they changed their minds


[01-Nov-18 04:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that voting should happen at one specific polling place to make it hard to bus in people pretending to liv somewhere, instead of chekking ID


[01-Nov-18 04:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that also we should chekk ID redundantly because blakk people don't usually hav ID


[01-Nov-18 04:53 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah


[01-Nov-18 04:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that making it cost money to vote is illegal, so we should create a provisional way to get ID that's super messy


[01-Nov-18 04:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then some states go crazier from there


[01-Nov-18 04:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
ND removed registration, but then they also decided that you need proof of residential address (on your ID)


[01-Nov-18 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then politicians who want to stay in power get desperate make even crazier laws formt here


[01-Nov-18 04:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
conveniently for ND Republicans, Tribal IDs at the time didn't state residential address


[01-Nov-18 04:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so the argument goes


[01-Nov-18 04:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you can't prove a specific place you liv in ND


[01-Nov-18 04:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
you don't liv in ND


[01-Nov-18 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind that it's probably unconstitutional to disenfranchise the homeless as is the face-value intent before getting into racial issues.


[01-Nov-18 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and which most voter registration systems *de facto* do)


[01-Nov-18 04:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
My state btw has no-excuse absentee


[01-Nov-18 04:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, you register with your address and all (because fukk the homeless)


[01-Nov-18 04:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then up until you move or you die or you don't vote two elections in a row (because then you're basically dead to Republicans), the state mails you ballots that you fill out and mail bakk


[01-Nov-18 04:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Votes only count if they *arrive* before the election deadline, also


[01-Nov-18 04:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It gets kind of funny with primaries


[01-Nov-18 04:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
you get sent a ballot for every party


[01-Nov-18 04:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and can only send bakk one


[01-Nov-18 04:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This primary, the Greens actually managed to pass the anti-3rd-party hurdles to get their own ballot


[01-Nov-18 04:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
the instructions still referred to "the other ballot" for what to discard


[01-Nov-18 04:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
because they were written under the assumption 3rd parties had been properly buried under a bureaucratic mountain.


[01-Nov-18 05:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, just by making it so you can only participate in one primary, it discourages third parties


[01-Nov-18 05:01 PM] Nile#1441
In Canada we have to provide valid photo ID to vote.


[01-Nov-18 05:02 PM] Nile#1441
Or at least something proving that you live where you do


[01-Nov-18 05:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, most sane democracies hav that along with making it easy to get nationally-respected photo ID


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then I assume you can choose polling place? I know those in the UK can't, their system is kinda weird.


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they don't do electronic voting at all last I heard)


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Nile#1441
Over here you're assigned a polling station that is close by to you.


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
In Russia you have to show your passport for """elections"""


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
But everyone has a passport and it's easy to get


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
Unlike US


[01-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK also recently trialled voter ID in some areas...it didn't go well, from what I heard.


[01-Nov-18 05:04 PM] Nile#1441
I only know a little bit, even though I worked at the polling stations for the 2015 federal election.


[01-Nov-18 05:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/local-election-voter-id-trial-pilot-turned-away-a8336886.html

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4,000 people turned away from casting their ballot in local electi...
‘Britain prides itself on being a leading democracy – but it is a dark day for politics when thousands of blameless people turn out to vote only to be refused’
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/05/27/18/ballot-box.jpg


[01-Nov-18 05:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nearly 2 percent, yikes.


[01-Nov-18 05:09 PM] Nile#1441
Like, I really don't get the animosity towards having to have ID to vote. If there was some standard kind of U.S. identification card given to citizens altogether, I don't think many people would still complain about it.


[01-Nov-18 05:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that getting ID isn't trivial


[01-Nov-18 05:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the problem requiring to show ID to vote is trying to solve is nearly nonexistent


[01-Nov-18 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar to why we do innocent until proven guilty


[01-Nov-18 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's considered worse to let an innocent man go to jail than for a guilty man to walk free


[01-Nov-18 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
by that same token, it's worse to remove someone's right to vote by mistake than to accidentally grant the right to someone


[01-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
or to misgrant said right.


[01-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nile#1441
Even if voter fraud is minimal at best, wouldn't it just be better to play it safe and still ask for ID?


[01-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[01-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Under that absolutist reasoning


[01-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
we could be expected to provide a ridiculous amount of documentation on the offchance someone committed identity theft.


[01-Nov-18 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
There has to be a cutoff point at which the burden of establishing identity is not too hard on people


[01-Nov-18 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at which it is reasonable to assume that their identity has been proven.


[01-Nov-18 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The conventional system for this in the US is quite sufficient, voter fraud is *literally* reported as often as alien abduction


[01-Nov-18 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, while it might be happening, even if it is happening ten times as often as it is reported, the scale is extremely small and thus the harm by allowing it to happen is very small.


[01-Nov-18 05:13 PM] Nile#1441
We still require it here, even if we have no reports of fraud.


[01-Nov-18 05:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having it doesn't justify having it.


[01-Nov-18 05:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, your country may hav made a mistake in having it, provided conditions are similar.


[01-Nov-18 05:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note that the US in the way it sets up polling places makes it pretty hard to vote as someone else because of a high chance of them also coming to vote


[01-Nov-18 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
This not only catches most fraud that would happen individually, but assuredly catches fraud that would happen with multiple people, and thereby can deter both because of the high risk.


[01-Nov-18 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, another thing to consider is that in Canada, getting the ID to vote may not be as burdensome


[01-Nov-18 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thus the scale of the burden may be as virtually nonexistent as the scale of the fraud it prevents


[01-Nov-18 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, and apparently the UK too, it is burdensome to get photo ID in a timely manner and to know you need it ahead of time


[01-Nov-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
When I got my state ID btw (which will not be able to get me on flights after 2019), it took about 5 weeks to get it mailed to me


[01-Nov-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
During those 5 weeks I had to use a little paper ID that's considered valid, but which is extremely fragile


[01-Nov-18 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also cost me IIRC $25 and took 2 hours at the DMV to get


[01-Nov-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
I had to bring a copy of my birth certificate, mail addressed to me, and a student ID


[01-Nov-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That copy of my birth certificate took 4 weeks to get and cost $35


[01-Nov-18 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The original birth certificate had been lost during moving.


[01-Nov-18 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mail addressed to me is an interesting matter...it basically means you can't get ID in this state if you are homeless.


[01-Nov-18 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thinkprogress.org/epa-wants-to-grant-factory-farms-exemption-from-reporting-potentially-harmful-emissions-6e944dc36d23/

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Mark Hand
https://thinkprogress.org/epa-wants-to-grant-factory-farms-exemption-from-reporting-potentially-harmful-emissions-6e944dc36d23
Trump’s EPA concludes communities don’t have the right to know...
Industry supporters describe potentially toxic emissions as "normal odors" from animal waste.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Andrew-Wheeler-visits-farmers-in-Missouri.jpg?w=897&h=595&crop=1


[01-Nov-18 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for the student ID, I think a bank account would've also worked. Still, if I had lost my student ID, things would've been problematic.


[01-Nov-18 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately


[01-Nov-18 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
getting ID in the US is nontrivial.


[01-Nov-18 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck trump's epa


[01-Nov-18 05:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man


[01-Nov-18 05:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
so pretty much


[01-Nov-18 05:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
"toxic fumes? Haven't ya ever smelled a fart before, kiddo?" *pats back of dying child and walks away with expensive oxygen tank and mask to put money bags in the bank*


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I liv in the town with the largest superfund site


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Trump cuts the EPA's funding as he plans to


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
my town's water will be lethal within a decade or so.


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the local water from any wells, anyways.


[01-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our expensive tap water from elsewhere will be fine...until the pipes develop any sort of leaks.


[01-Nov-18 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess nestle will swoop in with an expensive solution where they sell you 2 bottles of water each for $600


[01-Nov-18 05:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey, remember that news about how many places hav leaks in their pipes now because pipes were made 100 years ago?


[01-Nov-18 05:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeaaaah


[01-Nov-18 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus crist america is becoming the backstory to insignia


[01-Nov-18 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all we need is nanobots int he water to force royalty payments, and weaposn that destroy organic life but leave buildings intact


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
so


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
state ballot initiatives are very important


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
you get some of them to make voting easier


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
a few more to takkle really hard issues the legislature won't


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh also giant billboard ads int he sky that obstruct any view of the sky what so ever


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can in theory swing things against the rich idiots trying to run the country into the ground


[01-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
also


[01-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Working class people are half the population and a tenth the politicians


[01-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
as to why, it's because America has (and has always had) very long campaign seasons


[01-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that you can't work while campaigning to be a politician


[01-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so the working class that work to stay alive would literally die most of the time running for congress or even state elections


[01-Nov-18 05:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to get people who actually know what it's like to work for their money into office, you hav to get campaign finance and campaign length reforms


[01-Nov-18 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we desperatly need shorter campaign seasons


[01-Nov-18 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shorter time also means less time to implement corruptiuon strategies


[01-Nov-18 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing


[01-Nov-18 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Primaries are bullshit


[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primaries weed out saner candidates like Bernie and Kasich in favor of more conservative ones like Hillary and Trump


[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
primaries dont do anything except turn elections into a stupid tournament ranking


[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
This just popped up in my firefox recommended:

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[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
should I click on it?


[01-Nov-18 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[01-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's guaranteed to be some shit about how you need her to say YES twenty times emphatically and sign a contract


[01-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
as opposed to any sane ideas of when people are pretty sure they've both agreed to something


[01-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
also it'll probably say one drop of alcohol invalidates anything she says and nothing you do


[01-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's worse, Intexda


[01-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
is primaries use party affiliation to hurt people choosing what they really want


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
sure, in my state, I hav to toss out all but one primary ballot


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
in many other states, you hav to be a registered party member to even hav a say in that party's primary at all


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a fluff piece


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
don't google it, it's crap


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
and sometimes even then, they choose the one you didn't vote for


[01-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
because superdelegates


[01-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Montana model is shit, but most other states' models of primaries are absolute toxic waste.


[01-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be a massive improvement for them to move to it.


[01-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and then there's the problems of FPTP that everyone here knows about


[01-Nov-18 05:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV btw is not perfect


[01-Nov-18 05:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
it actually often does not choose the Condorcet Winner (Bernie in a theoretical 5-way election with all the candidates from the primaries that stukk on near to the end)


[01-Nov-18 05:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ranked polls pls


[01-Nov-18 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why the fuck are super delegates even a thing?


[01-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cardinal voting from what I've read recently is probably best


[01-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it contains both positive and negative preferences


[01-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and makes it less likely that you end up with Condorcet Paradoxes


[01-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because a while bakk populism tried to sway the Democrats and so they decided the people should get less of a say in who wins the primary


[01-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget whether that was the 1968 primary


[01-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
you know, the one where tons of police descended upon protestors at the DNC to beat the hell out of them.


[01-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything in modern politics traces bakk to that time period, pretty much.


[01-Nov-18 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[01-Nov-18 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bad enws for 2020 hillary si considerign trying again


[01-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
She'll probably lose the primary


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, fun note on that UK thing


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
one police officer was turned away


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
he showed his police ID and the polling place didn't accept it.


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now neither party wants sane candidates with decent policies either, everyone has to be extreme and mentally unstable because that;s what keeps power apparently


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the guy whose job it would be to arrest people for voter fraud


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol wouldn't happen in the US


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
turned away in fear he'd be committing it.


[01-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would if he were blakk, Its.


[01-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, imagine blakk cop flashes a badge in rural Alabama


[01-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
says "let me vote"


[01-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
badge =/= photo ID


[01-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and guarantee you racial issues will pile on top of that preventing the polling place from being reasonable.


[01-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
What keeps power for conservatives is fear


[01-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fear makes people more conservative


[01-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, Hillary ran as a Democrat


[01-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at her core, she is center-right


[01-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what got her the votes of the elderly


[01-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
She played up the fear and talk of traditionalism, while Bernie was talking about the future and how to fix shit


[01-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile among the much more conservative party, people like Kasich were basically just Hillary but slightly younger and less wishy washy


[01-Nov-18 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Trump was a vortex of conservatism and fear and hatred


[01-Nov-18 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old people looooove that


[01-Nov-18 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Hillary of course will pull out some far left pet project to try to say she's actually left, but she doesn't actually believe in any of that crap.


[01-Nov-18 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In any real democracy the Democratic Party would be at least three parties and the Republican Party three or four


[01-Nov-18 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats already hav Bernie as sort of a weird encompassed second party


[01-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Kasich pushed, he could do the same on the Republican side


[01-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they can't ever really split off without election reform


[01-Nov-18 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/edmund-zagorski-death-penalty-tennessee-murder-electruction-chair-fred-leuchter-a8612101.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/edmund-zagorski-death-penalty-tennessee-murder-electruction-chair-fred-leuchter-a8612101.html
‘Self-taught’ electrocution expert worried his electric chair ...
'Tennessee's got an electric chair that's going to hurt someone or cause problems. And it's got my name on it'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/11/01/10/edmund-zagorski.jpg


[01-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So a guy lied about his credentials and denied the holocaust while designing execution methods


[01-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
now he's speaking out because holy shit guys it's 2018


[01-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US continues to look like a joke.


[01-Nov-18 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a very dangerous joke


[01-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/wikileaks-roger-stone-trump.html

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By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MARK MAZZETTI, MAGGIE HABERMAN and SHARON LaFRANIERE
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/us/politics/wikileaks-roger-stone-trump.html
Read the Emails: The Trump Campaign and Roger Stone
Newly revealed messages show how the Trump campaign chairman saw the political operative Roger J. Stone Jr. as a potential conduit to WikiLeaks, which published thousands of emails in 2016 damaging to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/01/us/politics/01dc-wikiemails/01dc-wikiemails-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.thedrive.com/news/24324/la-is-trying-to-fix-its-prostitution-problem-by-banning-right-turns-at-night-and-it-might-be-working

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http://www.thedrive.com/news/24324/la-is-trying-to-fix-its-prostitution-problem-by-banning-right-turns-at-night-and-it-might-be-working
LA Is Trying to Fix its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turn...
A city's battle to take back its streets from the streetwalkers, one illegal turn at a time.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/5472791a-fe7d-40b3-8ad1-9b1308021139.jpg?quality=85


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the idea is


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
prostitution is illegal because FUKK YOU WE'RE CHRISTIANS


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this creates a huge blakk market for it that causes problems


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
so if you want to remove this blakk market, you hav to stop anyone that goes onto the side streets at night


[01-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nile#1441
Oh the poor hookers


[01-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
so you illegalize turning onto the side streets after dark


[01-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making prostitution illegal doesn't just hurt the hookers, it hurts the whole community


[01-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it creates a whole market based around crime and fear of the police that enables further problems


[01-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
anyways, so the idea is if anyone makes a turn, you can search their car without a warrant


[01-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the 4th amendment was never created with the idea that right turns would be illegalized.


[01-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you actually need to get into those side streets for legit purposes


[01-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
well fukk you you're hurting societal progress or something


[01-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this doesn't actually destroy prostitution long term


[01-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'd hav to apply it to the whole state


[01-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
that would cause much greater harm and basically fukk over anyone going anywhere at night.


[01-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/10/28/fight-high-drug-prices/

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To fight high drug prices, Utah will pay for public employees to g...
Amid a flurry of national proposals to bring exorbitant U.S. drug prices in line with other countries’ charges, one Utah insurer has a different option for patients:
https://www.sltrib.com/resizer/JrL_DmzEx8J6e8X9vfDkG1i6DIg=/1200x630/filters:quality(85)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-sltrib.s3.amazonaws.com/public/FDE7PAG6EJCOFLFEQLJSRVYIR4.JPG


[01-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nile#1441
tl;dr? I’m currently out for lunch


[01-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
'PEHP, which covers 160,000 public employees and family members, is offering plane tickets to San Diego, transportation to Tijuana, and a $500 cash payout to patients who need certain expensive drugs for multiple sclerosis, cancer and autoimmune disorders.'


[01-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
An insurance company has realized it is cheaper to pay to send people with cancer to Mexico to buy drugs there with its medicare for all, than to buy the drugs in the US


[01-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav discovered a late stage capitalism (as an island in a sea of sanity) exploit.


[01-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgflip.com/i/2li0yy

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black guy pointing at head
https://i.imgflip.com/2li0yy.jpg


[01-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/ecuador-asks-julian-assange-to-curb-speech-look-after-cat/10382992

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-16/ecuador-asks-julian-assange-to-curb-speech-look-after-cat/10382992
Assange ordered to curb speech … and clean his bathroom if he wa...
In a memo to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Ecuador ordered the Australian to avoid commenting on political issues and to better take care of his cat if he wants his internet access reconnected.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8196982-16x9-700x394.jpg


[01-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/11/01/vote-for-claire-mccaskill-you-liberal-dipshits

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Vote for Claire McCaskill, You Liberal Dipshits
Listen up, hippies: November 6 is not the primary. This is a real-ass election day. You can whine about how you’d like more choices or...
https://media2.fdncms.com/riverfronttimes/imager/u/slideshow/26642213/35949976363_14b268abb5_k.jpg


[01-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate RFT


[01-Nov-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wow


[01-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the metro's yellow rag that will print anything


[01-Nov-18 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, it's a blog post


[01-Nov-18 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It says in the URL


[01-Nov-18 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
"newsblog"


[01-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yea


[01-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/10/31/tis-the-season-when-horny-emo-deer-try-to-kill-themselves-with-your-car

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https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/10/31/tis-the-season-when-horny-emo-deer-try-to-kill-themselves-with-your-car
'Tis the Season When Horny Emo Deer Try to Kill Themselves With Yo...
As if you needed another reason to stay the fuck off your phone while you’re driving, you asshole, it’s officially the time of the year...
https://media2.fdncms.com/riverfronttimes/imager/u/slideshow/26600427/4692779817_22670bbfed_b.jpg


[01-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Distinguished journalism


[01-Nov-18 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
I know who I must link it to


[01-Nov-18 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
Even two


[01-Nov-18 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
@WiFiWitch


[02-Nov-18 12:02 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
wtf


[02-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dem horny emo deer


[02-Nov-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Arvid#8335
I really hope the Republicans loose congress


[02-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Arvid#8335
I don't even care that much for the Dems but fuck the GOP


[02-Nov-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[02-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll almost for sure lose the House


[02-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate tho...


[02-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd take a systemic polling error on the scale of how Trump won.


[02-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is that young people and minorities turn out way more than normal, basically


[02-Nov-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause if they turned out at the same rates older people and whites did, Democrats would win most seats every election.


[02-Nov-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope that's the case


[02-Nov-18 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the voter turn out i mean


[02-Nov-18 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Heidi might win ND, but other than that, kind of unlikely.


[02-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
2020 is when things will probably hit a peak bakklash against the GOP's various agendas


[02-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Arvid#8335
We need to bring back Chairman Mao to take care of the alt-right!!


[02-Nov-18 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying the tankies are better


[02-Nov-18 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not adopting Maoist aesthetic


[02-Nov-18 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just want my own hosue


[02-Nov-18 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mao can come in for tea but i;m not joinign his political party


[02-Nov-18 01:15 AM] Arvid#8335
I will become premier of the United Socialist States Of America and then support other socialist parties overseas


[02-Nov-18 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
make George Soros your finance minister 👀


[02-Nov-18 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
rename America to Sorosland


[02-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Arvid#8335
Soon a nuclear war will happen that will destroy capitalism, and aliens will help humanity build socialism


[02-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soros is anti-communism


[02-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he was buddies with Reagan about it, even


[02-Nov-18 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i know, i know


[02-Nov-18 01:18 AM] Arvid#8335
Yes, and he also funded various anti-communist groups.


[02-Nov-18 01:19 AM] Arvid#8335
Anyone who unironically believes Soros is pro-communism, well... they need to *Read a fucking book* as Commune would say.


[02-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Wohl


[02-Nov-18 01:21 AM] Arvid#8335
It's makes no sense that that a mutli-billionaire would be funding pro-communist groups.


[02-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Arvid#8335
Honestly my shitposts are more logical that anything the conservatives have to say these days.


[02-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's gotten very disturbing.


[02-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah, even a lot of self described "moderates" will sometimes believe some wacky conspiracy theories. The right has made it really difficult to just be a moderate conservative or whatever. They've moved so far right it's pretty scary.


[02-Nov-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of it's Sinclair


[02-Nov-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big company that buys up small TV news stations, then turns them to talking national politics with a highly conservative bias


[02-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's definitely not a way to get more viewers...viewers actually decrease after it happens


[02-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's clearly intended to spend money to get people more conservative.


[02-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sinclair btw is also the company that Ajit Pai was gonna remove restrictions on marketshare ownership for


[02-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not for certain that there was some kind of deal, but it's pretty blatant and suspicious


[02-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully Ajit had a shred of decency and called the merger deal into question between Sinclair and Tribune


[02-Nov-18 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's surprsing


[02-Nov-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's not all some grand conspiracy, there's real corruption that's plainly visible, and even the shittier people aren't completely soulless automata of such corruption.


[02-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ajit Pai of course was under some heat from an investigation at the time as to whether there was some kind of deal.


[02-Nov-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt call it a conspiracy so much as blatant destruction of rectrictive rules so that sorporations can just absolutely wreck shit


[02-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the real distinction with conspirancies is they make assumptions of perfection


[02-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that something is both completely undetected and completely in effect


[02-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
real life is messy


[02-Nov-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a conspiracy implies a hidden layer of thought


[02-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ajit Pai is an anti-regulatory shithead


[02-Nov-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is no hidden layer it;s just money and cronyism allt he way down


[02-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if Sinclair banked on him being a pawn, they bet wrong.


[02-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause above all, he's out for some misguided ideological goals and self-preservation


[02-Nov-18 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) "con·spir·a·cy
/kənˈspirəsē/Submit
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
"a conspiracy to destroy the government"
synonyms:    plot, scheme, plan, machination, ploy, trick, ruse, subterfuge; informalracket
"a conspiracy to manipulate the results"
the action of plotting or conspiring.
"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"
synonyms:    plotting, collusion, intrigue, connivance, machination, collaboration; treason
"conspiracy to commit murder""


[02-Nov-18 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i swear i've seen atleast one villain in a movie liek ajit pai


[02-Nov-18 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah there's no secret plans


[02-Nov-18 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s all out there


[02-Nov-18 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
A conspiracy doesn't have to go without money, the use of money doesn't imply a lack of conspiracy. At the end of the day, power demands things and will work to obtain that. Whether that is to pay people off with money or favors.


[02-Nov-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, there could hav been secret plans, but if there were, they didn't work out.


[02-Nov-18 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are screamign their plans at the top of their lungs and thne calling people liars when called out on it


[02-Nov-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, current conservative ideology is crazy


[02-Nov-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it views the role of gov't as to suppress other cultures and countries while leaving businesses untouched


[02-Nov-18 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m honestly mroe surprised mroe republicans arent turning up dead via corporation hitmen after they outlive their usefulness


[02-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Screams of limited gov't combined with screams of gov't going after immigrants, gays, etc. are just inconsistent.


[02-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
A purely libertarian ideal would hav essentially open borders.


[02-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, sometimes things combine, with state laws to prevent city laws from preventing businesses from discriminating against gays in employment


[02-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man when _Zarda_ gets overturned


[02-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But at the end of the day it's hollow


[02-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Arvid#8335
The thing is, conservatives don't actually want a smaller government, they just want to privatize more of the state's functions.


[02-Nov-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
zarda?


[02-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The state and its restrictions are often necessary to hav the freedoms we enjoy.


[02-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Particularly protecting us from harmful business practices.


[02-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Nile#1441
I’m conservative but I don’t want small government


[02-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Arvid#8335
Small government vs big government is a smokescreen.


[02-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont want small government thye want privitized government


[02-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want to make it so you have to pay police up front, because the police will be owned by a private company


[02-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Arvid#8335
@Nile I'm talking in an American context. Neo-monarchists aren't relevant enough.


[02-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want fire fighters owned by private companies


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Zarda said that sexual orientation discrimination is sex based discrimination that is not allowed


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nile#1441
Wow


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye want cities to go into direpair because they want people to shell money out of their own pockets for the repairs


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just overturn Zarda


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a very clear line of reasoning involved


[02-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.*


[02-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you fire someone for behavior that would've been okay if they were a different gender, you are treating genders differently in harmful ways, which is by definition discrimination.


[02-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's also basically no disagreement among the circuits


[02-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, if you fire someone for dating a man *because they are a man and not a woman*, you hav commited said discrimination.


[02-Nov-18 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does zarda apply to right to works tates?


[02-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a federal thing.


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Title VII


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Litrojia#0612
It's a little disheartening to see a big push to vote just *now* on my college campus and online
For people that haven't already, they can't be expected to register and (if necessary) get an absentee ballot in less than a week until the election since the deadlines have already passed


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
States set up specific laws in order to provide more protection to what's already protected to prevent ambiguity.


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans get mad about this.


[02-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they think they can overturn Zarda


[02-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if they did so, and all the scattered protections weren't somehow invalidated too


[02-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it'd be a hollow victory for them in the effort to wipe gays out from society.


[02-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't fire a woman for acting too manly


[02-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should you be able to fire a woman for having sex with other women?


[02-Nov-18 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we want freedom of religion! but only for christians..."


[02-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nile#1441
Based


[02-Nov-18 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/31/conservative-republicans-are-least-supportive-of-making-it-easy-for-everyone-to-vote/

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Conservative Republicans are least supportive of making it easy fo...
Two-thirds of Americans say everything should be done to make voting easy for every citizen, but conservative Republicans are much less likely to say this.
http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FT_18.10.29_Elections_feature.png


[02-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 had some more stats on different ideas


[02-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans in general seem to be like 10-30 points away from Dems in the direction of "fukk voters"


[02-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still, almost every controversial issue actually falls about on the same side of support or oppose for both parties


[02-Nov-18 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans woudl likely rather have a sovereign or a king than a president


[02-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, at least, their voters wouldn't


[02-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the elected leaders, especially in the senate, are crazy


[02-Nov-18 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i meant the politicians ut yeah


[02-Nov-18 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they woudl liekly rather have soem form of corporate godking emperor


[02-Nov-18 03:12 AM] Litrojia#0612
Doubt it


[02-Nov-18 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well thne thye shoudl stoprunnignt hemselves liek they do


[02-Nov-18 03:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
Republicans don't have totally unlimited delusion, so it would be tough to convince them of that


[02-Nov-18 03:15 AM] Litrojia#0612
However, a series of Republican presidents backed by the same people with the same vision would be ideal for them, which may effectively be the same


[02-Nov-18 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1057681314353176576

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Holy shit!

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[02-Nov-18 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[02-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>everyone should follow biblical law


[02-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>clearly wearing mixed fabrics


[02-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>probably talks to women during their period


[02-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>probably eats shrimp


[02-Nov-18 05:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The next crusaders will be lead by this guy.


[02-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
What. The. Fuck.


[02-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I could ask the same question in regards to most of current American politics, and the UK too


[02-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy tried to explain to me how people "aren't logical" and thus we can't expect elected officials to not be religious nuts on constituent time


[02-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Islam deflection because apparently he would be fine with an Islamist who was open about it affecting his policies


[02-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
end religion


[02-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
B-but South Park said people would just fight over something else


[02-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I think a good way of putting it is in general any religion stemmed from the abrahamic god is probably bad


[02-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Bc most of the issues I see from religion all stem from the abrahamic god


[02-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Religions under said god would be Christianity, Islam and Judaism


[02-Nov-18 05:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Abrahamic god is the bad guy in his own stories i think. The devil seems like a pretty chill guy by comparison.


[02-Nov-18 06:00 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I kinda would agree considering he literally flooded the entire earth all bc he didn't like how humans had developed


[02-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
At least with like pagan religion they'll admit their gods are not perfect and many stories in mythology make that clear


[02-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I don't hate religion myself, it's just more that I see a lot of issues in the modern wor


[02-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Modern world stem from it


[02-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah


[02-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
And then with religion it tends to push its own morals on things like sexuality onto everyone which imo so long you use protection sexuality isn't really hurting anyone


[02-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Louder than Love#5467
If only it worked liked that


[02-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Louder than Love#5467
If everyone was sensible the world might end


[02-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I think that's where in a way government plays in but then that only works if the government isn't super biased or controlled by one party


[02-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yep


[02-Nov-18 06:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the only thing keeping you fro  murdering everyone in a room is god, you might want to get yourself checked out


[02-Nov-18 06:56 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[02-Nov-18 06:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least seek a therapist?


[02-Nov-18 06:56 AM] Mikey#7286
or rethink if religion is right for you


[02-Nov-18 06:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[02-Nov-18 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"i joined religion so a single phrase in a book would keep me from killign everyone nazi style :D"


[02-Nov-18 07:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good for you but i think i;m gonna bakc away very fast now


[02-Nov-18 07:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
"We need God or we all kill each other." says guy that takes Dovstoevsky seriously.


[02-Nov-18 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in regards to Abraham and worship of one deity


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn evne follow a religion and i kill all the people i want to kill already


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is none


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont literally want to kill anyone


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Binding of Isaac is supposed to be a story about how you should obey Yahweh no matter what and that he won't make you really kill your kids


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The story has oddities to its writing that likely mean it was rewritten


[02-Nov-18 07:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-contractors-specialrepor/special-report-u-s-marine-families-battle-mice-mold-and-landlords-idUSKCN1N64NS

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Special Report: U.S. Marine families battle mice, mold and landlords
When Matt Limon enlisted in the U.S. Marines, he and wife Sharon were prepared t...


[02-Nov-18 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The parts that are the original story, together with the implications from the names of the children born at the end of it...


[02-Nov-18 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
put together, the original story was likely about Abraham killing Isaac


[02-Nov-18 07:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"you shoudl obey me or else i'll flood the world in a temper tantrum and force a dude to build a ship"


[02-Nov-18 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But over time, the Hebrews no longer sacrificed children and had to rewrite the story to instead be about blind obedience with an angel stopping the sacrifice.


[02-Nov-18 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were still fine sacrificing animals or killing men and women and boys and then raping captured 11-year-olds


[02-Nov-18 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I guess sacrificing your own was realized to be counterproductive


[02-Nov-18 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later on, Jesus was weaving a narrative pretty much wholly different from what Yahweh was about


[02-Nov-18 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't Abrahamic religion


[02-Nov-18 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is ancient society


[02-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
left to their own devices, people in small tribes that go around raiding rival tribes for little girls to impregnate and rival men to slay will develop really fukked up rituals


[02-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
When ethnic cleansing is Tuesday, child sacrifice and blind obedience is every other day of the week, essentially


[02-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over time, societies got more food more efficiently, meaning more people and more specialization, meaning larger tribes and more trade, meaning an expansion of the idea of the in-group


[02-Nov-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning less violence towards others, both internally and externally.


[02-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the ideas that society comes up with to worship even by Roman times were not all about killing anything different and completely blind obedience


[02-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and modern ideas would be completely alien to anyone from Old Testament times.


[02-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just, they'd see an episode of FiM and probably recoil in horror at the idea of it being a happy tale for children.


[02-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under ideals at the time, Chancellor Neighsay would lead some kind of crusade and behead the student six etc.


[02-Nov-18 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that would be a dark twist on that plot


[02-Nov-18 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, and Twi would be executed for disobedience, or banished, Celestia would go to war with the Yaks, Fluttershy would be raped by Big Mac


[02-Nov-18 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
all that


[02-Nov-18 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ancient cultures were in general violent as fukk and gave no shits about equality or other peoples or any of that


[02-Nov-18 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[02-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything was about spreading your own culture and making babies early


[02-Nov-18 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most civilisations also raided at the time and took slaves for work or selling


[02-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire function of the Torah is a rulebook for doing so


[02-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why organized religion sukks


[02-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all based on ancient rulebooks interwoven with made up shit to try to enforce ancient political ideals


[02-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's essentially revisionist history where you literally claim that a wizard from the sky that owns the world helped you win


[02-Nov-18 07:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically if we were to make laws based aroudn religious rules of anceint times it woudl make the purge look tame in comparison


[02-Nov-18 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for less organized religions


[02-Nov-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're essentially from either societies that hadn't reached the point where they could amass a coherent narrative to enforce dogma, or ones that had reached the point where it was no longer necessary to justify massive warfare


[02-Nov-18 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
China especially tended to form large nation-states that didn't really need to hav rules about ethnic cleansing, and instead preferred rules about obeying your emperor


[02-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buddhism came really late into things and didn't even need to set down rules of obedience to make it as a thing, pretty much just a weird political party


[02-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hinduism's a mess


[02-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so is pretty much everything obscure


[02-Nov-18 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw for those wondering, Confucianism is pretty much "keep her in the kitchen, bow the fukk down, and be like the main 6 so that when people bow to you you don't fukk it all up by hurting them"


[02-Nov-18 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it has various virtues and many pretty much directly align with the elements of harmony. Laffter to modesty is a bit of a stretch but oh well, point is that the whole embodying good virtues is a key tenet and a Confucian probably would really like the concept of the mane 6, especially Rainbow Dash and Twilight, given the huge preference for loyalty and teaching)


[02-Nov-18 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And balance is a key concept in it, borrowed from Taoism. Bla bla bla yin/yang opposing forces and golden mean fallacy.


[02-Nov-18 08:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/alleged-victim-no-show-press-conference-claiming-mueller-sex-assaults-n929951

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No proof, no victim at news conference alleging Mueller sex assaults
"Are you both prepared for federal prison?" one reporter asked Wohl and Burkman, who made sex assault allegations against Mueller but offered no evidence.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_44/2628976/181101-jack-burkman-jacob-wohl-wide-se-202p_3f9695162050b53d7bcb13687e7c67f0.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[02-Nov-18 08:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right down to wohl's own mother blacklistign him on twitter for using her phone number as their hotline


[02-Nov-18 08:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might have been facebook


[02-Nov-18 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[02-Nov-18 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/video/protests-mark-president-trump-pittsburgh-visit/AB4F9932-705C-4B92-A59B-DDB4CACB483F.html

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Protests Mark President Trump's Pittsburgh Visit
Protesters greeted President Trump and his family in Pittsburgh as they paid tribute to the 11 people killed in Saturday's shooting at a synagogue. Photo: Getty Images
https://m.wsj.net/video/20181031/103118pittsburgh1/103118pittsburgh1_1280x720.jpg


[02-Nov-18 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46065766

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Canada resort staff fired for being white
A human rights tribunal found that seven resort employees were fired for not being Chinese.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/E60D/production/_104139885_hi045795006.jpg


[02-Nov-18 03:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hahahah there is no such thing like white racism


[02-Nov-18 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's not like this happens everyday


[02-Nov-18 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were fired so the chinese owner coudl hire chinese workers for far cheaper


[02-Nov-18 03:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure thing, it's stupid as all hell, but it does not discredit actual racism, i.e., the one suffered by actual minorities


[02-Nov-18 03:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) you also make a good point


[02-Nov-18 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you don;lt have to be a minority to suffer racism and in some countries white people are actually the minority


[02-Nov-18 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such as asian coutnries and african countries


[02-Nov-18 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention that the white people who were fired were actually compensated


[02-Nov-18 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By law


[02-Nov-18 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is a bit harder to happen the other way around


[02-Nov-18 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) i'm not sure white people suffer racism in Asia, and the prejudice they suffer from the new black majority governments in Zimbabwe and South Africa are mostly a result of historical problems


[02-Nov-18 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Zimbabwe and South Africa were apartheid regimes


[02-Nov-18 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh it depends on where in asia you go


[02-Nov-18 03:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
kek


[02-Nov-18 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not siure japan is as happy to have white people livign there as china is


[02-Nov-18 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It does also happen here in Latin America, what with the "gringo tourist" stereotype, but it's not a pejorative from a position of superiority


[02-Nov-18 03:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
badger why you're trying to protect minorities?


[02-Nov-18 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because i follow John Rawls' ethical theory.


[02-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i take racism with a grain of salt  since racism is also largely location and culture based


[02-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what might be a major racism problem in one country coudl be totally different in a different country


[02-Nov-18 03:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure thing, but we must keep in mind that, for a long time, "white" Europe dominated the world. And it's left a mark on a lot of societies.


[02-Nov-18 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this can also vary form city to city


[02-Nov-18 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true that but white europe also fucked over a lot of other white nations as well


[02-Nov-18 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like ireland and scottland


[02-Nov-18 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brittain was a fucking prick bakc int he day


[02-Nov-18 03:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They did, but the issue, especially with Nazi Germany's invasion of Slav countries, is that they considered the Slavs to be "not white enough", in a certain sense.


[02-Nov-18 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For now, as the far-right perceives non-white immigrants as the bigger threat, they promote a slightly more cohesive form of "white" identity.


[02-Nov-18 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However


[02-Nov-18 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once these nonwhites go away, the white supremacists can and will fight among themselves.


[02-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats sound stupid


[02-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why would whites fight with whites


[02-Nov-18 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the slave trade era is a lot more diverse and wide spread than people tend to focus on. thye mostly focus ont he african slave trade but at that point slaves were beign traded by most countries. most slaves of that time were usually captured trophies form local wars over resources. or trophies from pillaging another countrie's resources


[02-Nov-18 03:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Smug Trixie it has happened before.


[02-Nov-18 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Try telling an Ulsterite Protestant and an Irish Catholic that they're part of the same group.


[02-Nov-18 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with a Russian and a German.


[02-Nov-18 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[02-Nov-18 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
irish people dont liek beign called british either


[02-Nov-18 03:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I seriously worry about Albania's and Bosnia's situation in a hypothetical "white supremacist Europe" scenario. They have been part of Europe ever since the beginning, but because of their faith, they're liable to prejudice.


[02-Nov-18 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue is christian and catholic churches in certain areas are startign to try to re-awaken the idea of crusades


[02-Nov-18 03:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which reminds me, white supremacists know jack shit about their continent's culture.


[02-Nov-18 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[02-Nov-18 03:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, all they perceive as "Norse" or "Celtic" or some shit like that is almost always the product of a misinterpretation through a modern lens.


[02-Nov-18 03:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nonono,i think bosnia and albania and other balkans countries fighted because some of them are islamic and some are christian


[02-Nov-18 03:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ask a white supremacist if they have read Shakespeare's Othello, and ask him to interpret the message.


[02-Nov-18 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather not ask a white supremecist anything given thye tend to be crazy nutjobs


[02-Nov-18 03:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet his answer will, in practically all occasions, be dumb.


[02-Nov-18 03:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same thing if you ask them about the fascination of Renaissance and Baroque painters for the Orient.


[02-Nov-18 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
supremacists of any race tend to be fanatical nutjobs with a twisted view of history


[02-Nov-18 03:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Averroes, an Arab scientist, was depicted in many paintings, equally with "western" scientists.


[02-Nov-18 03:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/%22The_School_of_Athens%22_by_Raffaello_Sanzio_da_Urbino.jpg

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[02-Nov-18 03:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Averroes_closeup.jpg

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[02-Nov-18 03:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I could go on, too.


[02-Nov-18 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neat


[02-Nov-18 03:51 PM] ononim#8141
I wonder what stormfront brainlets think of tatars


[02-Nov-18 03:51 PM] ononim#8141
Or Circassians/Adyges


[02-Nov-18 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
Or Ingushes, Chechens, et c


[02-Nov-18 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north korea i;m pretty sure also has major xenophobia but i might be wrong


[02-Nov-18 03:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
White supremacy is never consistent.


[02-Nov-18 03:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazi Germany massacred Slavs like the Poles and Russians, but just let the Croatians be.


[02-Nov-18 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
white supremacy and other racial supremacies tend to be a huge mess when it coems to internal affairs


[02-Nov-18 03:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's because it's based on squaring multitudes of ethnicities and cultures into confusing boxes, because of visual cues.


[02-Nov-18 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne there are factions and differeing groups. like the kkk and the nazis, i dont know hwo thye get along with eachother


[02-Nov-18 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
google didnt answer my question


[02-Nov-18 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead google jsut lumped thme into a neat pile and decided to give me racism statistics


[02-Nov-18 04:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493236786475302924/507926408803254293/Screen_Shot_2018-11-02_at_10.37.58_AM.png

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[02-Nov-18 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted to knwo how the kkk felt about the neo nazis


[02-Nov-18 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem with today's political climate is it;s now impossible to research anything using google


[02-Nov-18 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes google i am aware thye are racists groups terrorising america, but that's not what i;m asking


[02-Nov-18 04:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
google how to join kk


[02-Nov-18 04:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
k


[02-Nov-18 04:36 PM] Nile#1441
Become a fed


[02-Nov-18 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
You can't fight illogic with logic


[02-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The KKK in general believes that anything but completely pure white is bad


[02-Nov-18 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, neo-nazis do not go far enuff, as neo-nazis may accept people with like 1/16th non-white ancestry


[02-Nov-18 05:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They agreed on the Jews until recently, the modern KKK has kind of fallen apart.


[02-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really tho, the KKK was always composed of white southerners who hated *any* differences from their culture, so even Catholics would be a target bakk in the day.


[02-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its membership was comprised mainly of people who'd never gone more than like 10 miles from home.


[02-Nov-18 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
White supremacists in general like the Jews as an easy target for an inside threat, a sort of "looks white, but isn't really" enemy that can be blamed when the white race starts being tolerent.


[02-Nov-18 05:57 PM] ononim#8141
Jews were hated long before "white" as a concept started to exist


[02-Nov-18 05:58 PM] ononim#8141
It's very old xenophobia, that I must agree got a racialist makeover


[02-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you can't blame your own race


[02-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if they're truly the ones becoming tolerant


[02-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need to create some omnipresent enemy responsible


[02-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
and since Jews are relatively integrated, but still visibly different, bam.


[02-Nov-18 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/414384-judge-refuses-to-block-voter-id-law-for-native-americans-in-north-dakota

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A federal district court judge on Thursday refused to temporarily exempt Native Americans in North Dakota from a state law requiring residents to show a valid ID that lists a current residential street address when voting.
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[02-Nov-18 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[02-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's okay to make a change two months before the election that takes voting rights away from brown people and sows massive confusion


[02-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's not okay to make a change a week before the election that givs those rights bakk after showing they were in fact taken away


[02-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
[because brown people shouldn't be able to vote in this white country]


[02-Nov-18 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow that's fucking dumb


[02-Nov-18 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks judge bitchass


[02-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget the other two bitchasses, both Republican, who granted the stay 2 months ago


[02-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That 2-1 decision was indeed along party lines.


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the REALLY dumb thing, Intexda


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
ND first passed a slightly different law early on


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
it got shot down in court


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
they made very minor changes to create this new law


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point


[02-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
is to manipulate things using the Republican-controlled courts


[02-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
to get it so that even if the law is completely unconstitutional


[02-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is in a state of unchallengibility on the election itself


[02-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's fukking nuts


[02-Nov-18 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good so judge fucknut and judge shitfist make all the rules


[02-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
So by the time SCOTUS will point out that this law is outright racist


[02-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
it will be long after the election has been decided


[02-Nov-18 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's no guarantee SCOTUS will point that out


[02-Nov-18 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
given Kavanaugh etc.


[02-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
this law could be upheld as completely valid by the now mainly conservative court.


[02-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
All we can hope is that the natives' efforts to print tribal ID on the spot don't get shut down


[02-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that that can make the whole thing bakkfire sufficiently.


[02-Nov-18 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope everythign the republicans are doing backfires horribly


[02-Nov-18 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why exactly do political races not have disqualification rules outside of citizenship?


[02-Nov-18 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like im pretty sure holdign the voting registration office while runnign for congress shoudl be an auto disqualification


[02-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
For voting, voter registration, ballot access, primary access, or what?


[02-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because there are different rules on all.


[02-Nov-18 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for candidates


[02-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, ballot access?


[02-Nov-18 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess?


[02-Nov-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-settles-federal-lawsuit-alleging-blocked-thousands-minority-voters/4M2dMAHDRvC8fLYoV01fxN/

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Georgia settles federal lawsuit alleging it blocked thousands of m...
The lawsuit accused the state of disenfranchising thousands of minority voters because of a “strict matching” requirement on voter registration forms.
https://www.ajc.com/rf/image_large/Pub/p8/AJC/2017/02/09/Images/Voting.jpg


[02-Nov-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the georgian candidate who held a position int he voter database while also runnign for congress/senate


[02-Nov-18 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently thye solved this issue though so that;s good


[02-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is that the one with the "your signature doesn't match" BS?


[02-Nov-18 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think so


[02-Nov-18 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that were the case i wouldnt be able to vote anyway as none of my signitures mathc eachother


[02-Nov-18 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wait this article is 2017


[02-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, worse, any difference, no vote, and of course it tended to target minorities.


[02-Nov-18 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The day that they said the accuser got raped in NYC was a day Mueller was in DC


[02-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But what to you expect from a kid that can't even get a fucking eTrade account


[02-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[02-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nile#1441
Shaun is insufferable


[02-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nile#1441
Comes off to me as a snarky twat, in all honesty.


[02-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh ne he did satire correctly


[02-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Mikey#7286
he speaks the truth


[02-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
call da popo


[02-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
La cretura


[02-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nile#1441
La atrocidad


[02-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nile#1441
El goblino


[02-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[02-Nov-18 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Nov-18 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Nov-18 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Nov-18 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie


[02-Nov-18 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/washington-state-legislator-circulates-proposal-on-exterminating-liberals

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A Washington state lawmaker who moonlights as a wannabe theocrat has stumbled into FBI scrutiny over a how-to guide he...
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[02-Nov-18 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saw person who defended him and said he didn't call for FGM or "kangaroo tribal courts"


[02-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nile#1441
Circumcision is gay


[02-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
That talk will assure the Washington lawmaker is not taken seriously and will lose any future elections


[02-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
If I were a Christian


[02-Nov-18 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd be embarrassed to be associated with him


[02-Nov-18 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
ContraPosting time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbINLWtMKI

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[02-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Nile#1441
wtf with that thumbnail


[02-Nov-18 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
EMBRACE THE ABSURDITY


[02-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Nile#1441
No


[02-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nile#1441
@Mikey YOu would just have to not identify with him in that case


[02-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd hope other Christians would disown him


[02-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
As well


[02-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not Christian but I'm pretty sure that's some pretty damn un-christian shit


[02-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Nile#1441
He's a Protestant so I already don't like him :op:


[02-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh lol


[02-Nov-18 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"i;m running for election, please nominate me so i may restart the holy wars"


[02-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
No one is going to vote for him


[02-Nov-18 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i sure as fuck hopenot


[02-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nile#1441
But no I reject the types who want to use violence to bring upon their means.


[02-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[02-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Good


[02-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not that kooky, y'know


[02-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
I know lol


[02-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nile#1441
:Cakelestia:


[02-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Mikey#7286
:Blossomforth:


[02-Nov-18 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wfla.com/news/pasco-county/pasco-woman-decorates-with-hitler-saluting-skeletons-in-concentration-camp-gets-death-threats/1563450120

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Drivers slowed with windows rolled down, mouths agape. Some snapped photos. Others shook their heads.  Each person had seemingly the same facial expression - a mixture of disbelief and disgust.
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[02-Nov-18 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her defense of it is apparently "i;m jewish and this is to protest the HOA of my town"


[02-Nov-18 10:56 PM] Nile#1441
HOA?


[02-Nov-18 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
home owners association


[02-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/nov/01/att-washington-realtors-seek-shea-campaign-refunds/

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Two more organizations demanded money back from state Rep. Matt Shea’s re-election campaign on Thursday, while others denounced his rhetoric and said they would not support him in future elections. The latest controversy surrounding the Spokane Valley Republican also garner...
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[02-Nov-18 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A Home Owners Association (HOA) is an organization of homeowners of a particular subdivision, condominium or planned unit development. The purpose of a home owners association is to provide a common basis for preserving maintaining and enhancing their homes and property.


[02-Nov-18 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in an HOA run neighborhood you basically have to run anything you want to do to your hosue by thme first


[02-Nov-18 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you set up a tiny plastic toyhosue for your child in your bakc yard thye will tell you to kill it


[02-Nov-18 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait the holy war guy wants to build a 51st state and name it liberty?


[02-Nov-18 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a stupid name for a state


[02-Nov-18 11:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
HOAs are always full of hardasses. If they had their way every house would be a square box of the same colour size and shape for miles and miles and nobody would be able to find their own house.


[02-Nov-18 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he should go whole hog on this holy war thing and just named it the state of jonestown


[02-Nov-18 11:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Koolaid chuging contest for the real belivers!


[02-Nov-18 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i;m buying a hosue eventually i;m avoiding HOAs entirely


[02-Nov-18 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i couldnt put u[ with that kind of insanity


[02-Nov-18 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we noticed your mailbox got pushed over slightly by the wind, we're sendign you this $400 fine to make sure that it does not happen again"


[02-Nov-18 11:05 PM] Nile#1441
I'd tell them to fuck off.


[02-Nov-18 11:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I like how a bunch of HOAs in florida will not let people shield their windows during the storm season in Florida.


[02-Nov-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man and I thought you had to have a lot of money to have "fuck you money"


[02-Nov-18 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the dream, so much money you can spend it doing nothing but agitating others


[02-Nov-18 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but we don't want to look liek a ghetto"


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"you'll just have to deal with broken windows if it happens because we value image over safety, also if your window breaks we;re fining you $5000"


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, owning a home is a mark of wealth


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seemsmliek it now adays


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus a HOA tends to involve upper-middle class assholes who don't want anyone new to the neighborhood to start changing its culture


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
or developing any property


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
At my old place, we had a huge lot


[02-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
like 2 acres of land


[02-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
but we couldn't subdivide to build more houses to rent out


[02-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
the HOA said they preferred things to be large grass fields because fukk you getting any money, one of you is dark-skinned (my stepdad)


[02-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it was this huge house with two gigantic yards either side


[02-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
great for the pets, but horribly expensive


[02-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
No opportunity to sell those yards or develop further on them


[02-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so eventually with my stepdad having trouble finding work in home construction, we ended up moving to our current home


[02-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
a little trailer made in the 60s, paying lot rent to a landlord that has at times routinely shut off the water because of continual issues with low pressure


[02-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, I liv near Washington state


[02-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
so as far as that crazy politician guy


[02-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
he could very easily be reelected


[02-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the Idaho-Montana border to near Bellevue, there's a ton of poor white racists


[02-Nov-18 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Idaho is staunchly conservative and has many white nationalist groups


[02-Nov-18 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
eastern Washington is basically the same


[02-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Western Montana is actually fairly liberal, due to Kalispell being on the reservation, Missoula being like the hippie capital of the northwest (and with the U of M, an artsy college), and Butte being Irishtown with Montana Tech (of the U of M)


[02-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, if I go 200 miles west, I'm in territory where if I wasn't so white that I could pass as a movie vampire without makeup except on my hair, I'd be unwelcome


[02-Nov-18 11:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There was some story about a guy that had to get rid of his electric car because the HOA where he was would not let him charge it at home because they said the cable coming out of his house was ruining the looks of the town or somthing. There were no charging stations for miles so it was not worth it. Can't seem to find it.


[02-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOA are total NIMBY


[02-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Staunch conservatives that don't want any change


[02-Nov-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HOAs are an abomination


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They often oppose solar panels because it's something new and different they don't want to see


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same for wind energy.


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea of NIMBY is


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
we achieved racial segregation in neighborhoods in the 50s and 60s


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NIMBY bitches about wind turbines the most


[02-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
by building tons of whites-only housing and destroying any blakk housing with large projects and rezoning


[02-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so we can't let those damn liberals take it away


[02-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated note


[02-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
any change to the neighborhood is an assault on white suburban America


[02-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
thus, no wind, no solar, no electric cars, no blakks, no gays, no chinese, etc.


[02-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I like the conservative calling card that says "It isn't the 1960s, you have all your rights and should not be protesting anything"


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
says the people tryign to make it the 1950's again


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is to undermine any of the civil rights efforts


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just waiting for the day left wing groups drop the anti gun thing and become armed to defend themselves


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea being that 1) They don't hav to be followed and 2) If they are followed, you can find new ways to discriminate


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Immediately there would be massive gun control


[02-Nov-18 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then you can point to civil rights laws to say the blakks won


[02-Nov-18 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
(while saying the same to your white nationalist buddies who abhor the idea the blakks won)


[02-Nov-18 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Simultaneously saying that racism doesn't exist, so liberals should calm down, and that racism doesn't exist, so conservatives should bring it bakk


[02-Nov-18 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, it actually does.


[02-Nov-18 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Gamer Americans are the worst


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man imagine if BLM handed out free guns


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"This is just another boss fight" cringe


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, every BLM rally, tons of free guns


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wish these groups did


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not heard anyone say that


[02-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say what?


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is just another boos fight


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't follow tiny segments of the alt right.


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives have tried to bait liberals into believing in a meme that gun ownership is a dirty conservative thing


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And some fell for it


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"if every black guy went out and bought a gun today they would bring in gun control laws within the week" -Some black guy on twitter


[02-Nov-18 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We need a liberal who makes public how shitty this trickery is


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of blakk guys in places like Chicago do hav guns


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is why places like Chicago hav gun control laws...


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
noncontroversial ones.


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"They want you to dislike guns because they don't want you to defend yourself when they come to take your rights away"


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, even before the Republicans latched onto voter ID laws


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Boi 🔫 👌🏿


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those laws pretty much only showed up where blakk people were voting


[02-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is this not something liberals bring up


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HOAs are also the ones most liekly to sign a contract to bulldoze your home for a rich guy;ls golf course


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals don't want to run on gun control unless a tragedy just happened.


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a problem where the political climate is waaaaaaay too fikkle.


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody campaigns year-round on guns in either direction.


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
except the NRA


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
That golf course would bring money to the local ecconomy duh.


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[02-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not asking for gun control


[02-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Criticizing Conservatives for wanting all the guns themselves


[02-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I want gun control all along the border


[02-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trying to paint it as something only they can do


[02-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
arming drug cartels is a bad idea


[02-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But limits on buying assault rifles are things the NRA hates.


[02-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy


[02-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, get liberal groups buying AKs


[02-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That will only win political points, Its


[02-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politics isn't a game


[02-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about winning.


[02-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about actually improving things with particular changes.


[02-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives only want themselves to have guns


[02-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire reason current politics are so screwed up is the Republican party will believe in anything to win.


[02-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Democrats follow suit, we are all lost.


[02-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Appointment of judges matters more tbh


[02-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any shit president will be out in 8 years max


[02-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans would actually do if liberals bought AKs is start saying they flip flopped


[02-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shitty judges get 40+ years maybe


[02-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then not pursue gun control themselves as they let the NRA do their political dirty work


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Appointing judges is a ship that has sailed


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
At this point it is a matter of getting state gov't free of the crusade to kill minority rights and new technology


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Time for court packing


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then leveraging that to leverage congress in the 2020 election


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then from there maybe undoing court pakking


[02-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats can't stop conservative court pakking this election


[02-Nov-18 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we pretty much have to fight this from the bottom up


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/02/michael-cohen-trump-said-black-people-are-too-stupid-to-vote-for-me.html

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Michael Cohen: Trump said 'black people are too stupid to vote for me'
An explosive Vanity Fair interview with President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen comes two months after Cohen pleaded guilty to tax crimes and also to election law violations for making a hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/08/21/105409053-1534886652195rts1y8k3.1910x1000.jpg


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's an uphill battle, too


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just glad that one day I'll get a pendulum swing that will finally reach to what I want


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav HOA as their first line of defense.


[02-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want an American EU


[02-Nov-18 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want Schengen and a common currency


[02-Nov-18 11:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
American union would be AU


[02-Nov-18 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want metrication and universal healthcare


[02-Nov-18 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure there are soem HOAs who idish out fines or raise hosuing prices depending on your political affiliation


[02-Nov-18 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexicanadian universal healthcare for North America


[02-Nov-18 11:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So you want america to join the rest of the world.


[02-Nov-18 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes that woudl eb nice


[02-Nov-18 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I also want total secularization


[02-Nov-18 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No swearing in on Bibles or any holy book


[02-Nov-18 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only the Constitution


[02-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
That might be unconstitutional


[02-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can swear in on anything


[02-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
preventing use of religious books could be seen to disparage numerous religions


[02-Nov-18 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will swear on this awesome statue of optimus prime


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The US needs to get rid of a lot of their cold war holdovers. Like pledging and god money.


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only holy book of a politician in their public life is the Constitution, their only god their constituency


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could also be seen as a religious test


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is unconstitutional


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't require someone be part of or not part of a religion to come into office


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that's exactly what you just described, essentially.


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not asking them that


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is.


[02-Nov-18 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't say they hav to put the law above god.


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't become an elected official then lmao


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can say they hav to accept that they are there for the law and not god.


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Start a church


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it is unconstitutional to impose on their beliefs about god in relation to other things.


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since we killed Lemon I'mma summon the next best person for this, @byte[] https://randomishnickname.tumblr.com/post/172989095978/so

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Escapism is an art form.
https://randomishnickname.tumblr.com/post/172989095978/so
So.
kaylapocalypse:
“ Androids are my special interest so i’ve been following discussion about them and development of them for almost ten years and I’m stupid passionate about it. If anyone is wondering...
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[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[02-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure, and make that obvious by having them swear on the thing they uphold


[02-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if I worship the Founding Fathers


[02-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, you can swear in on the constitution, personally


[02-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you can't really impose on others in this.


[02-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is not equivalent to putting religious statues on gov't ground, as those are not personal matters


[02-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
A politician can come into office wearing full religious clothing and everything


[02-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[02-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing left but mockery


[02-Nov-18 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m kinda of surprised trump isnt wearing a crown


[02-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna be fun when someone comes into the senate wearing full arab garb


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has a guy who's Sikh in the cabinet IIRC


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2900 people died on 9/11


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Has full turban and everything


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems liek the kind of person who would wear royal garb unironicly on casual occasions


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many Muslims has the US government killed since then


[02-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or US citizens who have


[02-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/pentagon-no-one-will-ever-know-how-many-civilians-us-has-killed-in-fight-against-isis-1.531275

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Pentagon: 'No one will ever know' how many civilians US has killed...
Army Col. Thomas Veale, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria,  described civilian deaths as a result of U.S. and allied airstrikes as "extremely unfortunate" and "a terrible, awful part of this war."
https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.455882.1528245237!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/image.jpg


[02-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
I love how unintentionally ominous it is.


[02-Nov-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pentagon: NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW


[02-Nov-18 11:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Too many to count.


[02-Nov-18 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*finge rpyramid of evil with shiny glasses*


[02-Nov-18 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
A *muslim genocide*... I'll *commit* it. NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW. etc.


[02-Nov-18 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
(The runabout thing)


[02-Nov-18 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the war in iraq was litteraly a holy war then?


[03-Nov-18 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbQDP0eYzHk

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Kilroy the Killjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbQDP0eYzHk
I'LL STEAL IT
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KbQDP0eYzHk/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Nov-18 12:02 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/nash076/status/1058464075456413696?s=21

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Nash - Anbay ethay Azisnay (@Nash076)
https://twitter.com/nash076/status/1058464075456413696?s=21
I'm sorry ... you're voting for the government to ... fix your video games?

Wow. Wowie wow.
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[03-Nov-18 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but republicans wpould only ruin your video games mroe by makign litteraly everything dlc


[03-Nov-18 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing you;d be buying int he base game is the title screen and menu


[03-Nov-18 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh and thye would all have to be christian


[03-Nov-18 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exclusively christian games


[03-Nov-18 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with gambling int hem


[03-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
oh gods christian video games


[03-Nov-18 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i blame the bible


[03-Nov-18 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have you read the bible?


[03-Nov-18 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s full of sex and witchcraft and war, and murder


[03-Nov-18 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Did someone say CHRISTIAN GAMES? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNGNbHNMA4&list=PLrekaHLD2rhaJIeSkdCKfcU2ms38o98aU

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ChipCheezumLPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNGNbHNMA4&list=PLrekaHLD2rhaJIeSkdCKfcU2ms38o98aU
The You Testament #1: What is this.
Our ninth LP, this one was recorded in early 2010. We played it at 2 in the morning and I don't think being super tired helped me understand this game any more.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aGNGNbHNMA4/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Nov-18 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[03-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Nile#1441
Life must be shallow if you seek validation in video games


[03-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie see what @ononim posted for what I hate most


[03-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least those are fun


[03-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Nile#1441
I always make silly shit


[03-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The true cancer is the people who enable generic anime titty VNs


[03-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like dude, so much free actual porn out there


[03-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Nile#1441
Sexual anime things are gross


[03-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seeing them top sellers on the Steam page makes me die a little inside


[03-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even that, until super recently none of this on Steam was explicit


[03-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So at least now there is _some_ excuse


[03-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is necessary to fight against the prudishness that has been slowly spreading among tech companies in an effort to appeal to le soccer mom


[03-Nov-18 12:15 AM] Mikey#7286
b-but Valve is letting people do what they want!


[03-Nov-18 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not either


[03-Nov-18 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they're not good games and better pornography probably exists


[03-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nile#1441
I’d rather not go on Steam and have to see anime porn or over sexualized imagery


[03-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most games aren't good


[03-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie as a genre though


[03-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Exactly my point


[03-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They sell on sex appeal but have little


[03-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like paying for scrambled porn


[03-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Nile#1441
Honestly females wearing a lot of clothes in a game is something I’m completely for


[03-Nov-18 12:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
more clothes means more to take off. :NUT:


[03-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nile#1441
Fantasy games are the worst because of that


[03-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Assless chaps in RDR2 when


[03-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[03-Nov-18 12:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Some strong guy with a chain draped over his sholder and wearing shorts and sandels is perfect armour. 🇯🇵


[03-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
video games know nothing about armor


[03-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
"what's armor"


[03-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[03-Nov-18 12:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The heavy armours in DS games are only good if you know you can't dodge well.


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
video gaymes


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
that hitler HOA article is actually pretty fucking hilarious in context


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
verdooga garms


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
she's basically comparing the HOA to nazis


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda sup[port her in her endeavors


[03-Nov-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I 100% do


[03-Nov-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if only because it sounds entertainign to watch


[03-Nov-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to high five her


[03-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same


[03-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck you money" for all


[03-Nov-18 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i once had neighbors who moved to our rural ass town afte rliving in an HOA owned suburb, they got mad at every little unkempt thing, tried to keep their yard looking like a sears catalog, and they tried to train a dog to be a hunting dog by neglectignt he dog and left it ont heir bakc porch during terrible weather


[03-Nov-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they coudl often be heard fighting eachother in spanish


[03-Nov-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also hired a guy to chop branches off one of our trees to kepe elaves off their lawn and thne piled the branches in our fucking lawn


[03-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, one of those weird things that turns out to be different between liberals and conservatives is how tidy things are kept


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals tend to hav messy rooms/desks


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives very orderly ones


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my room is a big ol mess


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when conservatives band together to be kings of their little neighborhood castles


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i try to keep other peoples places and things tidy


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can bet your ass they're gonna get mad over tiny things out of place


[03-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really legit mad.


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is an extreme desire for order


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
social order, cultural order, etc.


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eventually we startedfeeding the deer in oruneighborhood to spite them


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
no deviation allowed.


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a deer ate an apple out of my hand


[03-Nov-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
itwas great


[03-Nov-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, order over nature


[03-Nov-18 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
leh


[03-Nov-18 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer nature over order


[03-Nov-18 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that's the thing with liberalism vs. conservatism


[03-Nov-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism's endgoal is basically artificial China made of plastic in space with genetically engineered straight white babies


[03-Nov-18 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that soudns vaguely liek wall-e but thinner


[03-Nov-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wall-e but the robot is destroyed


[03-Nov-18 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the axis but before wall-e changed everything


[03-Nov-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ship was called the Axiom I think


[03-Nov-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[03-Nov-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Axioms are base assumptions


[03-Nov-18 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a conservative's dream world would stress me out


[03-Nov-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i enjoy nature and while a tidy room looks nice soemtimes i prefer to jsut throw my clothing ont he floor and call it a day


[03-Nov-18 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I have an extreme desire for order


[03-Nov-18 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
But I ascribe to myself liberal characteristics


[03-Nov-18 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of really smart people end up becoming conservative due to a superiority complex sort of deal


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure i;d call myself purely liberal either. but i get it


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you would've ended up Republican if not for the party being so ridiculously full of cuntiness right now.


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current situation just is not normal.


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really isnt


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Who, me, or Intexda?


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You


[03-Nov-18 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think i;d pull it off beign a republican


[03-Nov-18 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck i;m barely pullign it off beign a democrat


[03-Nov-18 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both of the parties are making demands for their most unstable extreme voices to be heard


[03-Nov-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
This is hardly a balance issue, to me


[03-Nov-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
For example, there was recently a statistic published that showed sitting Republicans were indicted for criminal activity several orders of magnitude more often than Democrats


[03-Nov-18 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
People who make the laws should respect the laws, and if they don't then they should remove the laws


[03-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not stemming from both directions, Intexda


[03-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans tend to make the first moves


[03-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the crazy stuff with the senate being polarized came from Newt Gingrich in the 2000s, as well


[03-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's a longstanding competition to degrade political norms


[03-Nov-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans smash something, Democrats realize it's already smashed and follow


[03-Nov-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the current point, Democrats still havn't kikked out the moderates


[03-Nov-18 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Fucking Newt Gingrich


[03-Nov-18 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Also not just the moderates, they haven't booted the DINOs either


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav from the Senate


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not the House


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DINOs don't exist


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, DINOs, not RINOs


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats are a coalition party with no 11th Commandment


[03-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
RINO is explicitly to shame moderates for being moderate, byte


[03-Nov-18 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/498335880247771146/508056727191814155/FB_IMG_1541199777173.jpg

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[03-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, Kasich didn't leave the Republican party


[03-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it left him.


[03-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that's almost a direct quote from him)


[03-Nov-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm


[03-Nov-18 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just glad all the independent attempts at being mini Trumps failed


[03-Nov-18 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for now


[03-Nov-18 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 will be people talking about how great he was; not aping him


[03-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was so silly when people tried to ape his manner of speech/Twitter postings


[03-Nov-18 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dread 2030 if america is even still a thing


[03-Nov-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Not ape


[03-Nov-18 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Orangutan


[03-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/izlS15orhP0

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KILL THE SUPER PACS COMMITTEE
https://youtu.be/izlS15orhP0
Donald Trump Sues Bill Maher over Orangutan Joke
Donate to Stop the Orangutan PussyGrabber: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/senatorbrown
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/izlS15orhP0/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Nov-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you shoudl apologize to orangutans immediatley


[03-Nov-18 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I try to watch Maher every week


[03-Nov-18 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
He's a good comedian, when he tries to be


[03-Nov-18 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
His roundtable debates are usually retarded but the standup and "new rules" are great


[03-Nov-18 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Favorite panelists: Christopher Hitchens, Al Franken, Anthony Weiner, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye


[03-Nov-18 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
If you don't know who Christopher Hitchens is, I feel bad for you


[03-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What a snowflake


[03-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, remember when Pence saw a production of Hamilton and Trump got mad that the theater should be "a safe and special place" free of politically insensitive calls for gays to hav rights?


[03-Nov-18 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[03-Nov-18 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/tKW3vKpPrlw

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Real Time with Bill Maher
https://youtu.be/tKW3vKpPrlw
Jonathan Haidt The Coddling of the American Mind
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B NYU social psychologist and author Jonathan Haidt joins Bill to discuss how good intentions and ba...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tKW3vKpPrlw/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Nov-18 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Trump once as a businessman fly someone out to NYC to pull on his hair when someone called it a toupee


[03-Nov-18 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could beleive it


[03-Nov-18 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's less a toupe and more a really really sad caterpillar tryign to escape his scalp


[03-Nov-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want Eric Andre to interview Ted Cruz


[03-Nov-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgQP2EWamz0

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AlexDaShepherd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgQP2EWamz0
Eric Andre Interviews Ultimate Compilation
Follow my instagram 💪🏻😤💪🏻: https://www.instagram.com/alex_stark007/
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZgQP2EWamz0/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-allows-trial-on-census-citizenship-question-to-go-forward/2018/11/02/48fed12e-ddfa-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.0d896587520d


[03-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Project Veritas went after Beto


[03-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
they managed to get his staffers to admit to...donating to charity


[03-Nov-18 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
The most inept muckrakers ever


[03-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they painted this as horrid because that charity helps asylum-seekers who are given shelter in churches as the gov't processes their claims etc.


[03-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
In essence Project Veritas is just Republican shills who legit believe that people are all as hateful and dumb as them


[03-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf no https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/americas-heroin-epidemic/fda-approves-powerful-new-opioid-terrible-decision-n930571

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https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/americas-heroin-epidemic/fda-approves-powerful-new-opioid-terrible-decision-n930571
FDA approves powerful new opioid in “terrible” decision
“There are very tight restrictions being placed on the distribution and use of this product," the FDA commissioner said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_15/2397641/180413-fda-building-al-0940_6aa00bf5852c7887405f256720b5a05a.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[03-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
this needs to stop


[03-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The new drug, Dsuvia, is a tablet that goes under the tongue. It is designed for use in the battlefield and in other emergency situations to treat intense, acute pain.'


[03-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
why the fukk is this needed?


[03-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is morphine insufficient?


[03-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do we even really need all these damn painkillers? Pain's bad, but it doesn't fukking kill people


[03-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is just going to be massively abused and lead to ODs


[03-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't even do the approval process right


[03-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like they just rammed it thru


[03-Nov-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
> Sufentanil, sold under the brand names Dsuvia and Sufenta, is a synthetic opioid analgesic drugapproximately 5 to 10 times more potent than its parent drug, fentanyl, and 500 times as potent as morphine.


[03-Nov-18 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Sufentanil.svg/1920px-Sufentanil.svg.png

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[03-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, RIP the midwest


[03-Nov-18 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
That's a fentanyl all right


[03-Nov-18 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Synthetic non-morphinan opioids have some pretty interesting chemical commonalities


[03-Nov-18 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
The LCD generally seems to be piperidine but structurally they are all quite different


[03-Nov-18 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
It's pretty interesting that they act on the same receptors


[03-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
oh look


[03-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-yoga-studio-shooting-leaves-1-victim-dead-4-wounded-n930716

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-yoga-studio-shooting-leaves-1-victim-dead-4-wounded-n930716
Florida yoga studio shooting leaves 2 victims dead, 5 injured; gun...
The gunman was tentatively identified and police were trying to determine his motive.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_44/2631171/181102-yoga-studio-shooting-al-2106_2040357579f0db0dbdca2894fa386b82.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[03-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
_another_ shooting


[03-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
oh dear


[03-Nov-18 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46067564

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46067564
No foul play in Saudi sisters' US deaths
Police say the siblings had said they would rather take their lives than go back to their homeland.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/172FA/production/_104107949_untitlf235ed-1.jpg


[03-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it looks like they feared Saudi Arabia would jail or kill them as political prisoners if they returned


[03-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the Trump administration was not wanting to let brown people like them in


[03-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they committed suicide.


[03-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, by walking into the water with their arms taped together and drowning.


[03-Nov-18 08:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/02/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/?utm_term=.e98cb80886ce


[03-Nov-18 09:34 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.jta.org/2018/11/02/news-opinion/event-canceled-brooklyn-synagogue-due-kill-jews-graffiti

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Cnaan Liphshiz
https://www.jta.org/2018/11/02/news-opinion/event-canceled-brooklyn-synagogue-due-kill-jews-graffiti
Ilana Glazer event at Brooklyn synagogue canceled due to 'kill all...
(JTA) — Graffiti reading “Kill all Jews” ‍was discovered on the stairwell of Union Temple in Brooklyn Heights, prompting organizers of a political event planned there to cancel it. The event was scheduled to be hosted by “Broad City” star Ilana Glazer at the histo...
https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/abbi-and-ilana.jpg


[03-Nov-18 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-still-hasnt-visited-a-war-zone-despite-tough-talk-on-military-2018-8

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-still-hasnt-visited-a-war-zone-despite-tough-talk-on-military-2018-8
Trump talks tough about the military, but he hasn't visited a war ...
A year and a half into his tenure, President Trump has yet to visit Afghanistan, Iraq, or Syria, among other places where US troops are putting their lives on the line to execute his orders.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b858acbdcee3029008b5974-1920-960.jpg


[03-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Nile#1441
Have any of the previous few presidents done the same? Or have they visited the war zones.


[03-Nov-18 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think obama visted the troops afew times


[03-Nov-18 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure of other presidents though


[03-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Nile#1441
But honestly I don't blame world leaders shying away from war zones.


[03-Nov-18 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t either but the problem is it hink trump has said that he would visit the troops and has yet to do so


[03-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, it's exactly what Trump would criticize others for


[03-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has a tendency to say doing X is bad, then to do much more of it himself


[03-Nov-18 07:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It's different when he does it.


[03-Nov-18 07:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/arsonist-sets-fires-7-brooklyn-synagogues-jewish-schools-nyc-councilman/

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Arsonist sets fires at 7 Brooklyn synagogues and Jewish schools: N...
The New York Police Department received reports of fires at seven Hasidic Jewish institutions in a single neighborhood in Brooklyn — around the same time vandals spray-painted “Kill All Jews” inside a reform synagogue in the same borough. City Council Member Stephen Le...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/download-1-800x430.jpeg


[03-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Arvid#8335
Just got done early voting


[03-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some more details on the ND situation and how the tribes are getting around things https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/north-dakota-voter-id.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/north-dakota-voter-id.html
In North Dakota, Native Americans Try to Turn an ID Law to Their A...
Tribes think they may be able to increase turnout in the face of a strict voter ID law. But it will be a challenge.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/31/autossell/Assembly-12/Assembly-12-facebookJumbo.png


[03-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Mikey#7286
https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-oumuamua-extraterrestrial-solar.html

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https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-oumuamua-extraterrestrial-solar.html
Could 'Oumuamua be an extraterrestrial solar sail?
On October 19th, 2017, the Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System-1 (Pan-STARRS-1) in Hawaii announced the first-ever detection of an interstellar asteroid, named 1I/2017 U1 (aka, "Oumuamua). ...
https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/2018/couldoumuamu.jpg


[03-Nov-18 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Unlikely


[03-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Mikey#7286
it's from outside the solar system so we can't know


[03-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Mikey#7286
I wouldn't say "unlikely" more like no one knows


[03-Nov-18 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
That is a piece of shit article because it basically rests on the claim that this could be a sign of ET life and speculates from there


[03-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
uh


[03-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
a bunch of sites are reporting on it


[03-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
because a few astronomers speculated it


[03-Nov-18 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
And I say unlikely because for it to be such a sign of ET is considerably less probable than the alternatives


[03-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6347379/Interstellar-asteroid-Oumuamua-giant-solar-sail-sent-civilization.html

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6347379/Interstellar-asteroid-Oumuamua-giant-solar-sail-sent-civilization.html
Interstellar asteroid 'Oumuamua' could be solar sail sent by aliens
Astronomers from the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics concluded that the strange asteroid 'might be a lightsail of artificial origin.'
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/11/02/19/5706986-0-image-a-3_1541186966465.jpg


[03-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Mikey#7286
"Astronomers from the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) analyzed the strange cigar shape of the object, and an unexpected boost in speed and shift in trajectory as it passed through the inner solar system last year.  

They concluded that the strange asteroid 'might be a lightsail of artificial origin."


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
>The Daily Mail


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Lol


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
and?


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Sensationalist tabloid


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.universetoday.com/140391/could-oumuamua-be-an-extra-terrestrial-solar-sail/


[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12154029

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Oumuamua: Harvard researchers suggest strange interstellar object ...
Astronomers spotted something odd last year. Something really odd.
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[03-Nov-18 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Reminder that we went through the rounds of this when they found water on Mars


[03-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
it was speculated by harvard smithsonian astronomers


[03-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
obviously they are not claiming it as fact


[03-Nov-18 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
wat


[03-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey a bunch of sites report absolute BS


[03-Nov-18 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
so the astronomers are full of shit then?


[03-Nov-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oumuamua was spinning like crazy, indicative of it not being any kind of spacecraft using a solar sail


[03-Nov-18 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
no, articles from peolpe who aren't fukking astronomers are full of shit going off of minor data anomalies


[03-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
"They concluded that the strange asteroid 'might be a lightsail of artificial origin"


[03-Nov-18 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Evidence? No
Next.


[03-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that it couldn't be outgassing because that would increase the rate of spin


[03-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that's highly dependent on a ton of different factors


[03-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
""""might""""


[03-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
not "is for sure"


[03-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's wild speculation based off minor differences in expected and actual data for something we barely had any data on


[03-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence


[03-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
i mean it's still interesting that an interstellar object was pulled into our solar system


[03-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is incredibly unreasonable to even think something might be a solar sail because of minor things like this.


[03-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also not politics


[03-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
well idk i thought it was less appropriate for #general-discussion


[03-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not in any way political


[03-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just dumb


[03-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Space rocks are politics now


[03-Nov-18 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
space is politics forever


[03-Nov-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm buying the moon.


[03-Nov-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can't stop me.


[03-Nov-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
I bought it for a penny.


[03-Nov-18 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'll sell it to you for a 50 million dollars.


[03-Nov-18 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'll pay you $50 and a pack of gum


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
no


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
50 million


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
whole moon


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
$60 and 2 packs of gum


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
if u go up there on ur own ill follow with my shotgun and kell you


[03-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
no1 will kno


[03-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna need about 3.50


[03-Nov-18 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
away you lochness feind!


[04-Nov-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Y'know, this is pretty much how homesteading the west went. People went out to claim their free plot with government and maybe even rail road assistance to supply goods and services to get your house and farm and/or ranch in order, they'd live there for five years and get the free title, then sell that shit at a bigge profit.


[04-Nov-18 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
More so in the north west in the timber country. People'd basically drive a few sticks in the ground, making that and the five acres surrounding their land, wait until they got the title, then sold it for tens of thousands to the timber companies. These same people would also try to homestead several plots for even more bang.


[04-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to be able to homestead the moon


[04-Nov-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's what you think, but I've already built my metropolis on the dark side of the moon


[04-Nov-18 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just try to take in America, I'll release the terror of full post-Posadism if you try.


[04-Nov-18 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Long Live Comrade High Commander


[04-Nov-18 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Nov-18 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Nov-18 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Crazy if tru

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[04-Nov-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
oh shid, we spicy now. https://gizmodo.com/facebook-offered-advertisers-white-genocide-option-1830190052

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Facebook Offered Advertisers 'White Genocide' Option
Honestly, guys, this shouldn’t be so hard.
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[04-Nov-18 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c0jXpyOv3g

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Goulash Guy
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2 0 t h C e n t u r y A m e r i c a n i s m
Earl Browder was a nice man Very nice tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idn1cBciIH0
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[04-Nov-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE PARTY FROM WHOSE FOLLOWERS WE GOT THE AMERICAN SOUND. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NjssV8UuVA

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Aaron Copland - Fanfare For The Common Man
The awesome Fanfare For the Common Man by Aaron Copland. This fanfare was written on request from Eugene Goossens, conductor of the Cincinnati Symphony Orche...
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[04-Nov-18 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2018/11/01/trump-is-finally-bringing-justice-back-to-college-campuses/

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Trump is finally bringing justice back to college campuses
At last, some good campus news: The Trump administration is going to require colleges to allow cross-examination in sex-assault cases. In draft Education Department rules that leaked in August, sch…
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[04-Nov-18 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure i read that right but i;m pretty sure this says that the person acused of sexual assault will now be able to cross examine their acuser in court


[04-Nov-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not in court


[04-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the mokkery of a system that colleges use to try to stop things before a court is involved


[04-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it was in court, that rule would be ludicrous


[04-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you couldn't jkust hav a witness not be cross-examinable


[04-Nov-18 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, people on the left owning guns would solve a lot.


[04-Nov-18 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No need to accuse someone of sexual assault when you blast their head off.


[04-Nov-18 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
tonic paralysis though


[04-Nov-18 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Open carry with a holster


[04-Nov-18 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See how many people try anything


[04-Nov-18 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
ok, fair point


[04-Nov-18 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not viable


[04-Nov-18 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is not a single other method that will realistically limit sexual assaults other than "Grope this woman and you will die."


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd just ruin the left's image as far as fighting mass shootings and open up an attakk angle


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, not viable


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
women aren't going to shoot gropers


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They should


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if they do, it'd make society worse off


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No it wouldn't


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would be a net harm that would look foolish


[04-Nov-18 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would scare people from even coming close


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
losing a member of society is pretty bad


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it costs society like a million dollars instantly


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that deterrent wouldn't work


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Losing a sexual assaulter is like losing a roach


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No loss


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is the same utter nonsense as saying arming people would stop terrorists


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Millions of them, and millions more can die


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am NOT talking morally


[04-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am talking economically


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting people is a cost


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A cost worth taking if they are raping people


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Giving so many people one or two guns is a recipe for social disaster, i'd say.


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Groping and raping are not on the same scale


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yes, this many guns will lead to accidents


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and misunderstandings


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way, bullet to brain stops it


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and robbers that take her gun to shoot her with


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would prevent even getting close to it


[04-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
no it wouldn't


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a lot of nuances to gun ownership that pro-gun people just don't get


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
a pikkpokket can get your wallet pretty easy, if everyone has a holster, that becomes a target too


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So just shoot them


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ffs


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is complete lunacy to believe arming people solves the problem


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't shoot someone who has just trikked you


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't hav full attention at all times


[04-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even if you do manage to notice


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
you've just turned a robbery into a self defense killing


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
which harms society economically


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything effectively becomes vigilante justice


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
a woman could say so and so was groping her and just shoot him


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What to speak of the police's job, then?


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is a reason we use the fukking court system


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd get much harder


[04-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the idea of innocent until proven guilty


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure, extreme circumstances would be punished


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
because fundamentally, throwing people in jail is harmful to society


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the thought of "she has a gun, she could kill me if I try something"


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
so we want to only do it when not doing so hurts society a ton more


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
deterrents don't fukking work like that


[04-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
people either think she will in fact not and she does


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you've just caused a ton of unnecessary deaths


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gun ownership is more of a "who draws and points the gun faster" issue


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just need a few stories of women killing attempted rapists


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
or they think she will not and she doesn't, and you havn't solve the problem


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then society will not fight for attempted rapists anymore


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
or they think she will, and then nobody so much as flirts because of the risk of misineterpretation


[04-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society will actually fight far more for them


[04-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they were disproportionately retributioned upon


[04-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is complete idiocy, Its


[04-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, Americans only want certain ideologies to own guns


[04-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
you wouldn't solve the problem, nor improve society, nor make anyone safer


[04-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
you'd be creating like twenty new problems at a larger scale than the existing problem


[04-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
RELATEDLY


[04-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is basically already the logic at play in much of the US


[04-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It hasn't stopped people from robbing walmart, it's just killed them after they do so


[04-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
when they stole like $10 of stuff


[04-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it hasn't stopped mass shootings, it's made them happen regularly


[04-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[04-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the most recent mass shooting, @Itsthinking


[04-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
was an alleged groper shooting up the place that alleged he did so


[04-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
realistically, you can't get women to carry around guns and not men who would abuse them


[04-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It becomes a mini arms race.


[04-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone with tons of testosterone with an abusive mentality is much more likely to want to own a gun


[04-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
than someone with next to no testosterone and a caring mentality


[04-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that's basic psychology


[04-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to reduce abuse


[04-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to make people more caring


[04-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and more likely to inform on those who abuse


[04-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
A ton of gun culture does the opposite...


[04-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it nudges things more towards being abusive


[04-Nov-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
To further harp on matters, it would be absolutely ridiculous to call for the death penalty for attempted rape, let alone groping.


[04-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if that is ridiculous, why then would we want vigilante murdering instead?


[04-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
An individual with a gun in an emotional state is much less likely to be able to serve justice than a court.


[04-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, the idea that we should just kill people who commit a basic crime is ridiculous


[04-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may seem morally correct to see someone do a bad action, decide they are bad, and thus any action that harms them is good, but even with that assumption, there are severe effects from losing a "bad" person from society


[04-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
people hav friends and family, even bad people, and these will be quite upset for losing said bad person


[04-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
additionally, it's one less person in the labor force


[04-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fear of becoming labelled "bad" can also drive down beneficial interaction as a chilling effect, if justice is not careful to consider the rights of the accused.


[04-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why we hav a damn justice system that doesn't shoot people in the head for groping.


[04-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in regards to the death penalty as a deterrent, studies comparing states that allow the death penalty vs those that don't show this none at all.


[04-Nov-18 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
People when committing crimes generally are not in a mindset where the scale of the punishment greatly matters.


[04-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, there is potential in people to change, and so even if many might grope again and thus must be kept away from women, some will change and stop and imprisoning or otherwise restricting them is a cost society has no need to bear.


[04-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is in fact the whole message of MLP:FiM


[04-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
people do shitty things sometimes and you hav to get them to stop, but you generally shouldn't just shove them in a dark room for the rest of their lives to do so


[04-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause many can become productive members of society that don't do as many shitty things.


[04-Nov-18 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the whole concept of arming everyone to stop crime, it just doesn't work. A lot more people end up with bullet holes and crime still fukking happens.


[04-Nov-18 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, the mass availability of guns leads to criminals having much less of a barrier to committing violent crimes.


[04-Nov-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, if you ban guns, people turn to knives...and then less people die from muggers because muggers are now less armed.


[04-Nov-18 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then if you make it harder for knives to be used to slice people up, eventually muggers are having to like beat people with brikks, which makes it damn hard to properly mug someone


[04-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, some fun for 2nd amendment discussions, the original draft of it: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.”


[04-Nov-18 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
new jersey [passed legislature making it harder for anti vax parents to avoid vaccinatign theirchildren


[04-Nov-18 01:51 PM] Methid Man#6857
Good


[04-Nov-18 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now we just need to pass legislature to stop nicholas cage form drowning people in pools


[04-Nov-18 04:51 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102

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[04-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Striker#4874
wtf


[04-Nov-18 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wut


[04-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
a  meme for this part


[05-Nov-18 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/conservatives-aim-bypass-congress-amend-constitution-1200369?amp=1

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Even though amendments can originate in the states —  a right granted in the second clause of Article V — it has never been done before.
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[05-Nov-18 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it begins


[05-Nov-18 01:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
⛓


[05-Nov-18 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basdically the main goal of this convention is to repeal the process of voting for a senator instead of having as comittee choose a senator


[05-Nov-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the republicans want to end the people's right to vote at the source


[05-Nov-18 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
what they want is for the stage legislators to elect senators, which is how it was before the amendment


[05-Nov-18 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
the amendment was part of the progressive reforms over a century ago


[05-Nov-18 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
since state legislatures are predominantly republican controlled these days, that means that they would be electing a majority red senate


[05-Nov-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are also apparently targetign the presidential term limits ammendment


[05-Nov-18 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Nov-18 02:51 AM] soundtea#7559
oof


[05-Nov-18 02:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That user from Brazil is a monster


[05-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The woman was almost injured and you want a kiss as a reward. Kisses actually mean something special just giving them out carelessly and they lose meaning.


[05-Nov-18 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know if this the right video he did, but this guy did a talk about guns and he goes after this sort of shit, if indirectly. I'mma roll randomly and hope this is the one. https://youtu.be/BxvxbZGjlv4

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[05-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/midterms-2018/2018-midterms-georgia-stacey-abrams-brian-kemp-voter-suppression-a8617061.html

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Despite federal court rulings, voter suppression in Georgia still ...
'Stacey Abrams campaign has brought it to light,' one expert says
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[05-Nov-18 05:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Fingerprint tech has come a long way and is cheaper than it ever was before. Cheap phone now even have fingerprint tech. There are guns that come with fingerprint technology today that prevents unrecognised fingers from firing them. You can have that technology installed on to older guns with ease. I think that every gun should be upgraded with that tech to stop kids and other family members from taking your gun. Sure the sensor can be worked around but that takes time and the owner should notice if their gun is missing or has been tampered with otherwise they are not a responsible gun owner. The fingerprint tech should be a closed network local to the gun itself to prevent any network based tampering. IMO.


[05-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or you could put your guns in a lokked box up above where your kid can reach


[05-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK requires that you hav a secure place to store your guns


[05-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, you could use fingerprints to make the whole process of getting a damn ID easier


[05-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but saying "you need a bank statement or utility bill" sounds good to a bunch of homeowners and such who are mostly white while making it hard for blakks renting and having no savings account etc.


[05-Nov-18 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Electronically operated locks are NOT acceptable without sufficient magnetic shielding


[05-Nov-18 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
No fingerprint gun locks I know of have this


[05-Nov-18 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Because the locking lugs in fingerprint locks are actuated by small DC motors a strong  rotating external magnet can be used to drive the motor and open the lock


[05-Nov-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
A large number of consumer locks are useful only to prevent casual or opportunistic theft


[05-Nov-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I say that standard isn't strong enough when it comes to firearm locks


[05-Nov-18 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
they ought to keep all but the most skilled pickers out and not be trivially susceptible to unskilled bypasses and raking attacks


[05-Nov-18 05:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's going to pretty hard to have to keep unlocking the gun in a firefight if a magnet let's loose. A lot of these shooters taking family guns are opertunist thefts. There are plenty of way to get around a lock. The more barrier these shooters have to overcome the better.


[05-Nov-18 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
shooters taking family guns is the exact reason why firearm locks have to have high standards


[05-Nov-18 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
most firearm locks can be raked open


[05-Nov-18 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not kiddng


[05-Nov-18 07:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvl_7_Up7zU

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[05-Nov-18 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking NIMBY greedy assholes


[05-Nov-18 01:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] 
"Overgrown drug cartel"
I agree, tbh


[05-Nov-18 01:03 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[05-Nov-18 01:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"I want rewards for doing stuff"
>complains about political corruption five minutes later


[05-Nov-18 02:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/NOEZrlz35BQ

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[05-Nov-18 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Election Day in the US is tomorrow: Tues, Nov. 6


[05-Nov-18 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Please help me remove some of these fucking GOP dirtbags from the government


[05-Nov-18 03:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
_TO BE A HERO OF DEMOCRACY, YOU MUST PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY_


[05-Nov-18 03:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**LAST TWO DAYS OF MIDTERM ELECTIONS! __GET YOUR FRIENDS TO VOTE!__**


[05-Nov-18 03:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://derpibooru.org/1875629

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[05-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
*'Because you choose to'*, american midterms 2018 edition:


[05-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://derpibooru.org/1873736

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[05-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I may as well share that one too at this point


[05-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
it's much more, um, partisan tho


[05-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
now I must rest. good luck, heroes of democracy!


[05-Nov-18 05:24 PM] hmsquilava#3978
I mailed in my absentee ballot last week


[05-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
Same


[05-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
wish there was a way to opt out of the voting ads and reminders now :Luna:


[05-Nov-18 06:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Oops we lost your ballot. 🇺🇸 🤷


[05-Nov-18 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
"""lost"""


[05-Nov-18 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/politics/voting-suppression-elections.html

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By DANNY HAKIM and MICHAEL WINES
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/politics/voting-suppression-elections.html
‘They Don’t Really Want Us to Vote’: How Republicans Made It...
In some states, it’s easier to vote than ever. But in others, minority voters and college students face an expanding range of partisan obstacles.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/04/us/politics/04vote-p1sub-promo/04vote-p1sub-promo-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[05-Nov-18 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, my state has an initiative on the ballot this year


[05-Nov-18 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
to do what Arizona did


[05-Nov-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is, to make it so no third parties can help a large number of people vote by bringing their absentee ballots to polling places


[05-Nov-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Limiting it only to family members and care providers and only up to 6 ballots at a time


[05-Nov-18 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
which would effectively disenfranchise a lot of senior citizens and people in more rural areas


[05-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy because absentee ballots actually usually favor Republicans anyways, coming from rural areas.


[05-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they seem to believe that they need to restrict it because otherwise Democrats with more money would be able to turn absentee ballots against them by driving around collecting ballots from where all the blakks liv


[05-Nov-18 08:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The voting locations near black areas will be closed down for no wheelchair access, no fire alarm, no fire assembly point, "security reasons" or some other health and safety bullshit.


[05-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when you demand the city pay for installing that stuff, there is suddenly budget concerns


[05-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
even as they spend a lot to move the polling place etc.


[05-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and all the schools hav all that stuff


[05-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that would be too easy


[05-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause the schools already are in perfect position to make to so anyone can get to them


[05-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate now polling no pickups


[05-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah Democrats are probably fukked in the senate


[05-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd need Missouri, Nevada, *and* North Dakota


[05-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The last of which pretty much requires that every single Native American in the state votes despite the law designed to prevent them from doing so


[05-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's really important is governors


[05-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Dems win big on that, and get Kansas and Georgia, it stymies Republican voter suppression efforts


[05-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It says no pickups for anyone


[05-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ND gonna fukk Dems over


[05-Nov-18 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait now it says 1 GOP pickup


[05-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Odd considering the polls the last 2 days hav trended to better for dems


[05-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
What polls are you looking at?


[05-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
I only really look at fivethirtyeight's mile-high view


[05-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which says Dems need a systematic polling error, of course, to win the senate


[05-Nov-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/senate-update-the-13-races-were-watching/

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Final Senate Update: The 13 Races We’re Watching
Welcome to our final Election Update for the 2018 Senate races! Not much has changed in our forecast since early October: Republicans are still favorites to kee…
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[05-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note we could see Nevada and Arizona flip dem while ND flips Republican


[05-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's how a 50-50 would happen


[05-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Democrats got a crazy blue wave, they pikk up 2, that's the only way for them to win


[05-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd basically mean holding onto ND plus getting Nevada and Arizona


[05-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or losing one of the three, but gaining Texas becauze Cruz's voters don't bother to show up to the polls (that'd be hilarious)


[05-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
As it stands, we are likely to see Nevada and Arizona flip, while ND and some other state flips


[05-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Scott makes it to the senate, it's a sad day for the planet


[05-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and if he does, Desantis likely wins governor and RIP Florida's everglades)


[05-Nov-18 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[05-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Nile#1441
Got 'em


[05-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Makes sense, we got Trump instead and he decided to abandon the world and ruin our position as virtually its leader


[05-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/voter-registration-young-people-apathy.html

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Why Don’t Young People Vote? This System Doesn’t Want Them To.
Don’t lament young people’s apathy, consider what’s making them apathetic.
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[05-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Hmm I'm definitely voting


[05-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many won't be


[05-Nov-18 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I have all my documentation together but I can't promise I won't be turned away at the polls


[05-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Automatic voter registration would probably be the biggest thing


[05-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
voter registration actually originated to try to stop immigrants and blakks


[05-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just became the norm after a while


[05-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause at the time, people didn't want even the Irish voting


[05-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Tbh why should citizens have to register to vote


[05-Nov-18 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
why isn't voting compulsory?


[05-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because originally, only white male land owners could vote


[05-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Republicans would probably hate it if voting was compulsory


[05-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It took a long time to get to universal suffrage


[05-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and once we had it, states passed laws to try to stop it


[05-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, in American politics, most politicians are wealthy


[05-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
because working class people can't afford to spend all their time campaigning


[05-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The wealthy do not want to cede power to the nonwealthy


[05-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
most young people lean democrat according to things I read so imagine if all of them voted


[05-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even among Democrats, wealthier candidates will often make up BS to oppose stuff to help working-class poor


[05-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voter ID used to be uncommon, but noncontroversial


[05-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Doesn't matter their party rich people don't like the working class


[05-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats only seized on it recently when their support shifted from even across racial groups to disproportionately blakk


[05-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(because seeing a blakk man at the helm of the country scared whites)


[05-Nov-18 11:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well in general minorities tend to vote democrat


[05-Nov-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
As of recently, yes


[05-Nov-18 11:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Not always but they do lean that way


[05-Nov-18 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/supreme-court-wont-rule-on-legality-of-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules/

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Supreme Court rejects industry challenge of 2015 net neutrality rules
But lawsuits over Pai's net neutrality repeal and California law will continue.
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[05-Nov-18 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, whites with little education tend to be very racist and fled the Democratic party on seeing Obama


[05-Nov-18 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
The Civil War never really ended


[05-Nov-18 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will end when the Baby Boomers are dead.


[05-Nov-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X is less racist


[05-Nov-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
and more educated


[05-Nov-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
eventually they will make up most of congress


[05-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the meantime, I think ND might pass voter registration legislation if Heidi wins again


[05-Nov-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
While several states hav automatic voter registration, ND doesn't hav voter registration to start with


[05-Nov-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/11/05/where-marijuana-is-ballot-tomorrow-where-its-most-likely-win/


[05-Nov-18 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's unstoppable at this point


[05-Nov-18 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
damn


[05-Nov-18 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
no recreational in PA


[05-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie RCP


[05-Nov-18 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
not like that would stop me from getting fucking blasted anyway


[05-Nov-18 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
esp if republicans win the house


[06-Nov-18 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wired.com/story/brian-kemp-georgia-democrats-hacking-claim/?fbclid=IwAR27nBzKQd4GmON0TcXNMuOgkET7Ks2WHUx1SQOYeVE5UAE0O0kHNB_9rL4

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Citing No Evidence, Brian Kemp Accuses Georgia Democrats of Hacking
Georgia's secretary of state is also its GOP gubernatorial candidate. And he just claimed that Democrats committed "cyber crimes."
https://media.wired.com/photos/5bdf57b08a2ca166d289574f/191:100/pass/Brian_Kemp-1004927120.jpg


[06-Nov-18 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, I hope Kemp loses bad


[06-Nov-18 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's an asshole that's been trying to suppress blakk votes


[06-Nov-18 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now he's taking a page from the Trump playbook


[06-Nov-18 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
after getting caught doing shady shit, accuse the other party of doing it with no evidence


[06-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, hav you chekked that you're still registered and not caught up in a rolls purge, @byte[]?


[06-Nov-18 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I registered a bit over two months ago did they purge them already


[06-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Pennsylvania does long-term purges only apparently


[06-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they only got you if they made a mistake


[06-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho I wouldn't be surprised if they did


[06-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
be sure to chekk


[06-Nov-18 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.pavoterservices.pa.gov/Pages/voterregistrationstatus.aspx


[06-Nov-18 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610

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[06-Nov-18 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
since I vote in nearly all elections, it'd be unlikely I'd be purged if Michigan does any sorts of purging.


[06-Nov-18 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure nc does purges but if they do they're too late to purge my ass


[06-Nov-18 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
That said I was active in the primary and I was let right in, which I thought unusual since it was a totally new polling place for me. The ladies that worked the old place knew me


[06-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It depends on the type of purges


[06-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
most states in the north do purging based on you not voting recently


[06-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas in the south they like to also purge if your name resembles any felons (*i.e.* you hav a blakk name)


[06-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
+2 GOP now


[06-Nov-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6OzG4Shy70

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Chapo Trap House - Felix's Take On Evangelicals
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[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, fivethirtyeight is saying Dems' chances are 1 in 5 now, Its


[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The lite version that's polls-only especially


[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
something is up with the polls


[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Post 2016


[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Trust polls


[06-Nov-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
h e h


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
just you wait


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
silent red majority


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
dsa steals congress.


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
full legislative revolution by Friday


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I get elected president of the Committee of Public Safety


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure a plot twist is coming


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
V I V A


[06-Nov-18 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
VIVA LA SHYAMALAN


[06-Nov-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
YOU CAN'T CORRUPT ME, I ONLY WANT TO EAT MY CITRIS.


[06-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I see what it is


[06-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's Sinema


[06-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sinema is expected to take Arizona


[06-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas before the polls-only version put that as a tossup


[06-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Several polls said Sinema is in the lead today.


[06-Nov-18 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
1 in 5 for it all?


[06-Nov-18 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same odds Trump had to win kek


[06-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm skeptical


[06-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if there were no surprises, like if all the poll averages were right, it'd be 50-50 (a Republican win because of Pence)


[06-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems win if there is 1 net Democratic upset


[06-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is unlikely, as while there could be a Dem upset, a Republican upset could counterbalance it


[06-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, it is unlikely Republicans get more than 1 net upset


[06-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Dems are favored in generic ballot etc.


[06-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Again


[06-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
I will say:


[06-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Red Tide tomorrow, DSA upset


[06-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is the fate of the post-poll America


[06-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32WSJyd-NM

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[06-Nov-18 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610

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[06-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Louder than Love#5467
Thats a knee slapper


[06-Nov-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610

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[06-Nov-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Ban religion

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[06-Nov-18 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM7BgrddY18

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How PragerU Lies to You
Peak flower. Fear it. PragerU Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZWlSUNDvCCS1hBiXV0zKcA https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/prager-u...
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[06-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Arvid#8335
Oh yeah, fuck Prager U


[06-Nov-18 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prager u?


[06-Nov-18 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Prager "University". A YouTube project that doesn't call itself that, but claims it's a university which it isn't. Sponsored by Conservative radio talk show host Dennis Prager and funded by fracking businessmen.


[06-Nov-18 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so glenn beck u and trump u?


[06-Nov-18 04:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
They post videos like, "What's so bad about money in politics? Nothing!" and then post videos complaining about money in politics.


[06-Nov-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that soudns confusing


[06-Nov-18 04:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, less than that. There's no campus to go to or programs to enroll in. Just a series of five to ten minute videos encapsulating an ideological mission to defend conservative values. Even if that means contradiction.


[06-Nov-18 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Contradiction they probably feel is safe because whose going to watch all their videos apart from Leftist YouTubers on a mission to get.


[06-Nov-18 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gut*


[06-Nov-18 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s trump's twitter feed given a life on youtube?


[06-Nov-18 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m glad i don;t watch politics on youtube anymore


[06-Nov-18 04:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
PragerU's budget is also almost all dumped into advertising. So they injected themselves into Facebook and YouTube's ad algorithms. You could be going to watch a video on the LGBTQ movement and programs only to get a five minute ad of some conservative pundit telling you how the gays are bad before you move on.


[06-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nile#1441
I hardly do nowadays too.


[06-Nov-18 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or in general, anywhere really. I get PragerU shit on my FB feed all the damn time and so do my friends.


[06-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Nile#1441
I do because I never remembered to unfollow the page.


[06-Nov-18 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have adblock and zero facebook accounts


[06-Nov-18 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am glad i dont have facebook


[06-Nov-18 04:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I wish I had an adblocker that can block ads on the YouTube app. I use that a lot to listen to music or free audiobooks at work a lot.


[06-Nov-18 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right i keep forgetting smart phoens dont have adblocker


[06-Nov-18 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I could go and listen to anything and hear Dennis Prager or Jeep Peterson shouting about something in my ear, which is my cue to hunt for the skip ad button.


[06-Nov-18 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only place i;m not safe from ads is using public computers at th elibrary


[06-Nov-18 04:22 AM] Nile#1441
I never get political ads on YouTube


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i used to get a lot of ads from new daily show and john oliver


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
@AaronMk android phone?


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.xda-developers.com/youtube-vanced-apk/

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[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
no ads


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
I tried browsing the store too


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oooo


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Danke schone


[06-Nov-18 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which isnt as bad as msot political things but still


[06-Nov-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
new daily show is crap


[06-Nov-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
rip jon stewart


[06-Nov-18 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have only seen it in ad form


[06-Nov-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
you're not missing anything


[06-Nov-18 04:24 AM] Nile#1441
I can't stand seeing Trevor Noah


[06-Nov-18 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thqnks to a fued between suddenlink and viacom i missed the finale of jon stewarts daily show


[06-Nov-18 04:25 AM] Nile#1441
He buggers the shit out of me.


[06-Nov-18 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Eric Andre is the only late night all access show worth seeing TBH.


[06-Nov-18 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
That is if his cheap shit wasn't balls expensive.


[06-Nov-18 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
90% legal fees and rebuilding the set after every episode.


[06-Nov-18 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt have bene so bad if it was just a channel blocked on tv but at the time viacom blocked all suddenlink customers form using their online video service


[06-Nov-18 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
SNL is okay, but it's still varaible


[06-Nov-18 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing consistent like old daily show


[06-Nov-18 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=670BrA4jUoM

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[06-Nov-18 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want Eric Andre to interview Mitch McConnel, or anyone from congress.


[06-Nov-18 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
One hour, no exit, Andre rules only.


[06-Nov-18 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl love that


[06-Nov-18 04:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact about that last bit, apparently Eric Andre has on his crew Jimmy Kimmel's son as an intern. They put him under the interview chair and had him tickle his taint.


[06-Nov-18 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XR4Ml8FijM

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Eric Andre on politics, Judaism, and his bizarre talk show
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[06-Nov-18 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even being interviewed, he can not be controlled


[06-Nov-18 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
holy fuck i pissed myself before the first minute was up


[06-Nov-18 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
how have I not seen this before wtf


[06-Nov-18 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Eric Andre is the new Dada, the televised Dada


[06-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/05/trump-looking-into-antitrust-violations-against-amazon-other-tech-giants.html

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Trump says administration is looking into antitrust violations by ...
In an interview with Axios, Trump says he's "not looking to hurt" the U.S. tech giants but is considering action.
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[06-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Expect TV giants etc. to go uninvestigated


[06-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump just wants to hit the parts that are aligned with liberals


[06-Nov-18 08:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
We're not "going to hurt them" when we try to take punitive action which should hurt.


[06-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[06-Nov-18 08:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fam elect me now. No one will survive.


[06-Nov-18 08:06 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Nov-18 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Nov-18 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I voted


[06-Nov-18 01:35 PM] DevField#5162
Oh?


[06-Nov-18 03:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://derpibooru.org/1870472

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[06-Nov-18 03:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bronies who like Bolsonaro.


[06-Nov-18 03:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Y


[06-Nov-18 03:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm pretty sure Bolsonaro and his fans will ridicule bronies, no matter what their political affiliation is, and then try to murder or lynch them if the opportunity comes.


[06-Nov-18 03:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have some Reaction Sankara


[06-Nov-18 03:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[06-Nov-18 03:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, that BR brony stated that "Bolsonaro shall be Celestia, and Mourão shall become Luna"


[06-Nov-18 03:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine the faces of Bolsonaro and Mourão if they heard that some random brony on the internet told them they're supposed to be equivalent to princesses in a kids' cartoon show.


[06-Nov-18 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear, right-leaning bronies feel like they're perpetually stuck in 2012 in regards to fandom humor.


[06-Nov-18 04:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is so fucking memeworthy

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[06-Nov-18 04:17 PM] NightShadowMLP#9795
What image is that from?


[06-Nov-18 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The comments section of the pic i just posted


[06-Nov-18 04:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"His fan club can't stop trying to turn him into the world's biggest Mary Sue"
Lol


[06-Nov-18 04:19 PM] NightShadowMLP#9795
Okay thanks 😃


[06-Nov-18 04:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We live in the clown timeline.
Prove me wrong. Yeah, you can't.


[06-Nov-18 04:22 PM] NightShadowMLP#9795
(By the way what's your Derpi username?)


[06-Nov-18 04:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BadgingBadger, like here.


[06-Nov-18 04:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Normal B's.


[06-Nov-18 04:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Avatar is a pixel Twi gif.


[06-Nov-18 04:23 PM] NightShadowMLP#9795
Alright.


[06-Nov-18 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m still waitign for the election plot twist in america


[06-Nov-18 04:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, sometimes the clown timeline's got to give us a false sense of security. Here's to hoping that the GOP's monopoly gets broken.


[06-Nov-18 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here's hoping


[06-Nov-18 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is literally tewlling people to go into polling places and disrupt them\


[06-Nov-18 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[06-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433724759960977408/509224092386197524/Gov.png

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[06-Nov-18 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[06-Nov-18 07:25 PM] Louder than Love#5467
https://youtu.be/Gzw65Dgy_TY

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vote.
Find your polling place here: https://www.vote.org/polling-place-locator/ Want to know more about your candidates? Here are some good places to start: https:...
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[06-Nov-18 07:25 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Rush Limbaugh smash


[06-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lol
"Russian hackers" are still being brought up?


[06-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
At the end I couldn't understand if it is a satire or a real message addressed to real people


[06-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Louder than Love#5467
I feel like it’s satire, it’s too hard to tell, I don’t know the mans sense of humor


[06-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I just voted


[06-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I highly doubt the people I voted for will win given I live in a red state but eh


[06-Nov-18 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
One day, when our generation's full of regular voters, it will matter.


[06-Nov-18 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
That only happens if we start voting now.


[06-Nov-18 08:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
About to leave to bring in legal weed, propert districting, and some sort of revolutionary tide. Just gotta clean up and clear up Discord messages


[06-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
AL and WV have unenforceable abortion bans on the ballot


[06-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just waiting until Roe is overturned


[06-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Oh geez


[06-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Nile#1441
Based


[06-Nov-18 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For Georgia/Florida/Virginia


[06-Nov-18 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/ivcPBZ3.mp4

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Celebrating democracy in the USA!
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[06-Nov-18 10:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/wxLPcvVljB8

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The Simpsons - Electronic Voting
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[06-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Nile#1441
Electronic voting is gay


[06-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I voted electronically, guess I'm gay


[06-Nov-18 11:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
I physically had to touch paper and fill in squares, and feed my ballot into a machine that's been having issues taking ballots in all day.


[06-Nov-18 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I went at 7am to my polling place


[06-Nov-18 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
There was no line


[06-Nov-18 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Just a few people at the machines and I got a spot immediately


[06-Nov-18 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay


[06-Nov-18 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i did paper voting


[06-Nov-18 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It really should be uniform


[06-Nov-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Electronic with physical buttons (touchscreen is wonky) that prints out a paper copy etc.


[06-Nov-18 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
http://www.wlrn.org/post/counties-place-polls-gated-communities-florida-voters-are-left-out

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[06-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voter ID the hard way


[06-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
placing polls in places you need ID to enter


[06-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Yet she said so far the community has "declined" to let people pass through without showing IDs "because of the safety of the residents."'


[06-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[06-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want those scary blakk men to get in


[07-Nov-18 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0989/5746/products/P7559-Putin-I-Voted.jpg?v=1507677491

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[07-Nov-18 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
plot twist: somehow this election of congressmen ends up electing putin the president of america


[07-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://politics.theonion.com/north-carolina-voter-in-heavily-gerrymandered-district-1830260864

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GREENSBORO, NC—Admitting that it was difficult to keep up with all the different races, North Carolina voter Darin McDonough told reporters Tuesday that he was somehow voting for the Montana Senate and the mayor of Phoenix, AZ in his heavily gerrymandered district. “Man, ...
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[07-Nov-18 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[07-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion


[07-Nov-18 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[07-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/brian-kemp-campaign-energized-after-seeing-early-voter-1830158728

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Brian Kemp Campaign Energized After Seeing Early Voter Suppression...
ATHENS, GA—Saying that the data heralded a promising outcome for election day, representatives from Brian Kemp’s gubernatorial campaign were reportedly energized Thursday after perusing early voter suppression numbers. “It’s very exciting to see that with five days to...
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[07-Nov-18 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/georgia-election-worker-assures-black-man-ballot-scanne-1830266358

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Georgia Election Worker Assures Black Man Ballot Scanner Supposed ...
LAWRENCEVILLE, GA—Insisting that the machine was operating exactly as intended, Georgia election worker Mitchell Hamlin reportedly assured a black man on Tuesday that the ballot scanner was supposed to sound like a shredder. “Don’t you worry, it’s designed to sound li...
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[07-Nov-18 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/trump-boys-proud-after-mailing-in-hand-drawn-republican-1830256326

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Trump Boys Proud After Mailing In Hand-Drawn Republican Ballots To...
WASHINGTON—Stressing the importance of participating in the democratic process as envisioned by our nation’s founders George Washington and Santa Claus, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. were reportedly proud Tuesday after mailing in hand-drawn Republican midterms ballots t...
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[07-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/new-trump-campaign-ad-claims-that-illegal-immigrants-cu-1830183720

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WASHINGTON—Drawing the ire of critics who decried the spot as “misleading” and “racially charged,” a new campaign ad released Friday by President Trump claimed that illegal immigrants are currently murdering you with a knife. “Thousands of homicidal MS-13 members ...
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[07-Nov-18 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/polling-place-in-predominantly-black-neighborhood-clear-1830254624

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[07-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, results are just starting to trikkle in from Kentucky and Indiana


[07-Nov-18 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does NC have any results yet?


[07-Nov-18 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not finding any


[07-Nov-18 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Polls here at least close at eight, and anyone there after still gets to vote. So I don't suspect to start seeing results coming in until 8:30 or 9.


[07-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just voted.


[07-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Nebbie, results?


[07-Nov-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
NC? Polls hav like just closed


[07-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IN, seems like Donnelly trailing


[07-Nov-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, only 4% reporting


[07-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
7


[07-Nov-18 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sherman Did Nothing Wrong


[07-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No wait he did


[07-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He stopped.


[07-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Indiana flips Republican, it's pretty much over for Dems taking the senate


[07-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not certain yet, but Donnelly will really need the big cities...


[07-Nov-18 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think there much hope on a Senate take over. A House one perhaps.


[07-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but if Dems at least hold at status quo, they win 2020


[07-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they lose a few seats overall, it's rather bad


[07-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every seat matters, losing Indiana both means losing the senate for sure and likely having a 2020 struggle


[07-Nov-18 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie sanders won his race


[07-Nov-18 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nvm i misread that, he;s projected to win


[07-Nov-18 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by a wide ass mile


[07-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's surprising Zupan even bothered


[07-Nov-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even knwo who zupan is


[07-Nov-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sounds liek a japanese anime villain or a gundam


[07-Nov-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the Zupan mk lll


[07-Nov-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
13% of Texas is responding and   T E D    I S    L O O S I NG


[07-Nov-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
MAKE IT HAPPENS, OH GOD OF CHAOS. OH DIALECTICS


[07-Nov-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please yes


[07-Nov-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also can mitch mcconnel lose please?


[07-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just please end his non suffering


[07-Nov-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-texas-elections.html

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[07-Nov-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVLI4s-31Z8

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THE WORLD REVOLVING (Secret Boss Battle) - Deltarune OST Extended
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oVLI4s-31Z8/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Nov-18 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only 1% of Texas reporting tho so far


[07-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's pretty much a bit of Dallas


[07-Nov-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
hush let's have the hopes and dreams


[07-Nov-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
keep the memes alive


[07-Nov-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont let your memes be seams


[07-Nov-18 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
If liberals are libtards, are republicans retards? 🤔


[07-Nov-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
oof


[07-Nov-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Michigan results are coming in.
It's basically neck and neck, but less than 1% is reporting in
Gretchin Whitmer has the early lead
Very early lead, and it's only less neck and neck than the Senate race, like a percent less.


[07-Nov-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
All Ballot measures are leading with "yes"


[07-Nov-18 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
WEED, REDISTRICTING, AND AUTOMATIC REGISTRATION AND NO EXCUSE ABSENTEE VOTING... maybe?


[07-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida's amendment to giv bakk voting rights to felons is leading yes


[07-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big deal for its next election


[07-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that alone could secure the Presidency for Democrats in 2020 because then blakk people would mostly be able to vote in Florida


[07-Nov-18 02:46 AM] Arvid#8335
Good


[07-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Arvid#8335
I voted yes to giving felons voting rights


[07-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Nile#1441
Why do you always put two K's in words that have "ck" endings


[07-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Nile#1441
It bugs the fuck out of me


[07-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
ck is an abomination


[07-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Arvid#8335
I do what I wanna do motherfukker!!


[07-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, RIP Indiana


[07-Nov-18 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Florida goes too, it's over, Senate gonna be like 53-47 or something


[07-Nov-18 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Michigan gonna have that Kush, redistricting commission, and automatic voter registration


[07-Nov-18 03:16 AM] Arvid#8335
I wish all those right wing YouTube talking heads would go get hit by a bus


[07-Nov-18 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their FACTS and LOGIC will gulag them someday in my special Yukon gulags. :^)


[07-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Arvid#8335
Honestly, I think they're paid off by oil corporations to get young people to vote Republican and protect corporations


[07-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nile#1441
You must be a fun person.


[07-Nov-18 03:21 AM] Arvid#8335
Not as fun as your mum in bed oooo gottem!!


[07-Nov-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, they get money via infamy


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the more racist they can be and the more they can decry left-leaning idiocy or exaggerate BS


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
>giant corporations screwing shit up
what's new tho


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the more attention they get


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Arvid#8335
I need to stop posting while I'm on drugs


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
attention is money on YT


[07-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
You seem pretty coherent to me and you do make somewhat of a point


[07-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Arvid#8335
Okay I'm not really on drugs


[07-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Arvid#8335
I just need an excuse for the fact that I'm an asshole.


[07-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Nile#1441
You just are, you don't ned an excuse


[07-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Arvid#8335
Haha ^this


[07-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Arvid#8335
Might as well embrace it!!


[07-Nov-18 03:26 AM] Nile#1441
Better to be an open asshole than pretending to be an r/niceguy


[07-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Arvid#8335
True.


[07-Nov-18 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie they do get money from oil corps


[07-Nov-18 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
PragerU is mostly funded by two billionaires


[07-Nov-18 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That grew rich with oil fracking tech


[07-Nov-18 03:31 AM] Arvid#8335
Okay some of them really do


[07-Nov-18 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
PragerU even has a video stating that "money in politics isn't that bad", and "why you should thank fossil fuels"


[07-Nov-18 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Really


[07-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is gonna ban offshore drilling


[07-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and limit lobbying


[07-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the Democrats may hav an image issue, instead of a policy one


[07-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic amendments look set to pass with flying colors


[07-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Arvid#8335
Oh sweet


[07-Nov-18 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol 538 is doing lastminute coding adjustments


[07-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bit ago their color for Independents was pink and it was confusing as fukk


[07-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
now it's a dirty yellow


[07-Nov-18 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm an asshole and I do drugs


[07-Nov-18 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[07-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
guess dialing down the swinginess of it wasn't all they messed with


[07-Nov-18 03:40 AM] Arvid#8335
@byte[] That's the spirit!!


[07-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ouch, looks like Dems hav lost Florida for senate


[07-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only 6% left to get .2% of the vote net


[07-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Err, that's for governor with .2%


[07-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
for senate it's 1%


[07-Nov-18 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not much left but the recount to finish out that race


[07-Nov-18 03:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
rip Florida


[07-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Also today online I saw someone who I think sells lewds and stuff online say she'd give people access to a special lewd if they sent her a pic of their selfie with their "I voted" sticker and that's the most bizarre thing I've seen to encourage voting today


[07-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Need to get the young people voting


[07-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the young voted as much as the old, Republicans would've lost the senate


[07-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Litrojia#0612
can't have people choose fapping over voting


[07-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Nile#1441
Disgusting


[07-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk


[07-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
North Carolina passed its voter ID measure


[07-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know, the one replicating the thing the courts overturned for being extremely racist


[07-Nov-18 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
OTOH, Florida now allows felons to regain their voting rights


[07-Nov-18 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
1.5M people


[07-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but the big issue here is


[07-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
courts can't say voters were racist in intent


[07-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the NC law is now effectively only challengible by its *effect*


[07-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that is harder to prove


[07-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it could take until after 2020 to rescind


[07-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so NC is gonna be firmly controlled by Republicans for a long while


[07-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least Kobach is losing


[07-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Arvid#8335
Man fuck my state


[07-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I second that Juche


[07-Nov-18 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
man-fuck it


[07-Nov-18 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
right up the butt


[07-Nov-18 04:05 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I got no dick how on earth do I manage that


[07-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nile#1441
I'm in Canada so I don't gotta worry about none of that stuff


[07-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nile#1441
😂


[07-Nov-18 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
kill a man, steal his penis


[07-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
~~or just find the biggest dildo around~~


[07-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I think what killed Dems' chances was Kavanaugh


[07-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[07-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the correct political strategy would be to dismiss the metoo movement and sweep the allegations under the rug.


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
rip


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, the Dems did not get a house majority?


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they'll get a house majority


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh.


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they're fukked in the senate


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if they get Beto


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Oh thank goodness it won't be red in both


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
Cruz is getting called now anyways


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
House means oversight of Trump, but no stopping the judges.


[07-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting against Kavanaugh killed vulnerable Dems


[07-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Claire might make it in Missouri


[07-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's unlikely Hedi makes it, and Mike is lost


[07-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Nelson has lost Florida


[07-Nov-18 04:16 AM] Arvid#8335
Fuck me up the butt too btw ; )


[07-Nov-18 04:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well if the split is mostly 50/50 hopefully it will be enough to keep anything particularly toxic from passing


[07-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It won't be


[07-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's looking like the senate will be 52-48


[07-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
or worse


[07-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Litrojia#0612
two years of total gridlock woo


[07-Nov-18 04:17 AM] Arvid#8335
We're going to need a communist revolution up in here


[07-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
53-47 is now predicted as likely by the NYT


[07-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Arvid#8335
I knew the democrats would fail tbh.


[07-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Arvid#8335
Fuck the GOP man


[07-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Litrojia#0612
Dems weren't expected to take the Senate though?


[07-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought status quo was likely


[07-Nov-18 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But polls were wrong in Indiana and Florida


[07-Nov-18 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im guessign the elections arent goign well?


[07-Nov-18 04:21 AM] Nile#1441
GOP stronk


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The House is gonna be very blue and full of like women and scientists as expected


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
NYT is still reporting 5% of Texas in, with Beto in the lead


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate is gonna be very red


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
As usual, GOP loses popular vote


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
COME ON, WILL WE FINALLY SEE THE LEGENDARY, MUCH FABLED BLUE TEXAS?


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably not


[07-Nov-18 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aw :c


[07-Nov-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it'll be closer than the polls predicted


[07-Nov-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
polls were saying 51 to 46 on vote percentages


[07-Nov-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
this could be 50 to 48


[07-Nov-18 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, at least getting close spreads a message


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that violent revolution is mroe needed thna previously thought?


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Apparently one of the people in the house in my state that won is democrat that's interesting


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, Congress has its first muslim women in it, yay


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yes revolution


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who won nroth carolina?


[07-Nov-18 04:24 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Probs the GOP


[07-Nov-18 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[07-Nov-18 04:25 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Can we please start government from scratch


[07-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
NC is using the old gerrymandered map still


[07-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
Doesn't look like NC had a senator up for reelection


[07-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's red anyways


[07-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
NC, home of denying bathroom usage to trans people


[07-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Fuck government man


[07-Nov-18 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now it has voter ID being passed by initiative


[07-Nov-18 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great


[07-Nov-18 04:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
US voting has become tribal. My granpape and his granpape all voted X and so will you.


[07-Nov-18 04:28 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Lmao my dad voted red I voted blue


[07-Nov-18 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more than that


[07-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are winning the popular vote massively


[07-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Arvid#8335
Vote red as in Bolshevik!!


[07-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the Senate is 2 per state


[07-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Small states matter way more in the senate


[07-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so the huge swaths of the midwest with states with like a few hundred k Republicans control the country, effectively


[07-Nov-18 04:30 AM] Arvid#8335
Will anyone here back the American Juche party in the next election?


[07-Nov-18 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant really say i support the party of nroth korea no


[07-Nov-18 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, Beto lost in Texas.


[07-Nov-18 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We were so darn close.


[07-Nov-18 04:31 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Rip


[07-Nov-18 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How many legendary gems must we gather for the legend of the Blue Texas to become true?


[07-Nov-18 04:32 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
instead they voted the man who always looks sad and the internet joked he was "the zodiac killer"


[07-Nov-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas will flip for sure next election


[07-Nov-18 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
just from millennials aging


[07-Nov-18 04:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope so


[07-Nov-18 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bleh


[07-Nov-18 04:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I have two years to scream PLEASE FUCKING VOTE PLEASE


[07-Nov-18 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did we atleast budge th enumbers enoughto deadlock every decisionmoving through the senate and congress?


[07-Nov-18 04:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
well the house will likely be blue


[07-Nov-18 04:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
that will hopefully keep trump sorta in check


[07-Nov-18 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well atleast until they go insane enough to try bypassign the congress through "super conventions"


[07-Nov-18 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont exist at elast not for that purpose but you cna bet your ass republicans woudl try that kidn fo stunt


[07-Nov-18 04:37 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
True


[07-Nov-18 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye coudl thye would play the "my dad works at nintendo and he said so" card


[07-Nov-18 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[07-Nov-18 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://babylonbee.com/news/disillusioned-with-democratic-process-more-americans-throwing-support-behind-aragorn-king-of-gondor

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[07-Nov-18 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Two Muslim women in congress


[07-Nov-18 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna be fun when Trump tries to say they shouldn't be allowed in the capital


[07-Nov-18 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm atleast expecting soem temper tantrums from dear leader


[07-Nov-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He will couch it in victory with Senate pickups


[07-Nov-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's been called at this point


[07-Nov-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems win House, Republicans win Senate


[07-Nov-18 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that good or bad?


[07-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Dems can shut down crazy Republican repeal attemtps


[07-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and try to put forward moderate stuff


[07-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 years of nothing passing


[07-Nov-18 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically nothing passe sbut thye also cant fuck over healthcare and social security


[07-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social Security will be bankrupt soon


[07-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow are you ready for Democrats to be blamed as letting terrorists win when they refuse to pass bills to make the gays second class citizens?


[07-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
I just noticed that republicans already have 50 senators while democrats are down at 40 still


[07-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
seems like  republicans steamrolled the senate


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Republicans control small rural states


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and lots of them


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nile#1441
Many predicted they'd hold the senate


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
most did


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems getting a majority was an outside chance of no Republican upsets


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But RIP Indiana, Florida


[07-Nov-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
strictly speaking, it wasn't impossible for democrats to take the senate, just ridiculously unlikely


[07-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Nile#1441
Nothing's impossible in politics.


[07-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like all the momentum was traded for blue wave in Senate


[07-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gridlock before total control


[07-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was Kavanaugh


[07-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
White middle America isn't ready to admit that rich white men may actually be sexual abusers


[07-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing Dems push when allegations came in turned them away


[07-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know we'll disagree on this but


[07-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Pro-gun middle America


[07-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Won't give their daughters guns to defend themselves from mini-Kavanaughs


[07-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Arvid#8335
@Nile Here's how Jeb can still win


[07-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, anyone actually falsely accused should do what Mueller did


[07-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't believe Kavanaugh ever groped anyone or anything


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe he drank a bit, played drinking games, etc.


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe everything he said


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder if Harriet Miers had a penis she'd be on the Court


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nile#1441
Jeb!


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why Heidi lost too


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Miers was beyond incompetent


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and why Claire will


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri passed medical weed


[07-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Men don't want to vote for women


[07-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're seen as more liberal


[07-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems need to pick Boring White Guy 2.0 for 2020


[07-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden or Kennedy


[07-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[07-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or dark horse, Musk


[07-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pikking like a blakk women means they're reliant on those voters


[07-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>tfw you realize that Tumblr kind of was right in 2013


[07-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
On what?


[07-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Arvid#8335
On sexism against women


[07-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And rape culture


[07-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri also passed minimum wage increase


[07-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voters want legal pot, tons of abortions, high minimum wage...and GOP representation


[07-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...$12 by 2023


[07-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, it's all about race


[07-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
People want all these progressive things


[07-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they don't want a blakk man to benefit from them


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want white men smoking weed getting paid a ton and being able to keep the mistress from having kids


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>bring millions of people here against their will


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>give them rights


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>no, wait


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC there's a sect of the KKK that thinks slavery was the worst thing to happen to the US simply because it brought Africans


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
it's disgusting


[07-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nile#1441
Should have never brought them over, wouldn't have to give them rights then :op:


[07-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Arvid#8335
A lot of the amendments that are passing currently are good.


[07-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
only way to be rich before corporations was to own people


[07-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing


[07-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
people want all this progressive shit


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then they see a blakk guy is running for governor


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they vote for the white guy instead


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Florida is gonna restore voting rights to most felons


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but elect Desantis


[07-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
who has essentially promised to fukk over the Everglades


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Gillum is blakk


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Arvid#8335
I feel glad that I myself voted to restore voting rights for felons


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, violent offenders won't get their voting rights


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's a tad mixed


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Arvid#8335
(I live in Florida)


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nile#1441
It's pretty bold to claim that people didn't vote for a dude 'cuz he's black.


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Arvid#8335
I mean, it's subconscious


[07-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That entire race was about...race


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No that one made it explicit


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was brought up a ton


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the overall evidence


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
leftist ballot measures are doing real well even in purple states


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the actual leftists aren't


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Arvid#8335
The Republican in Florida literally said "don't monkey up the election".


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there is extreme filtering by race into party


[07-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, desantis started the race issue


[07-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Desantis made it about race and it worked


[07-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Arvid#8335
Just when I thought it couldn't get worse than Rick fucking Scott.


[07-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If dems want to win, they need white old men in the south


[07-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto might work next election


[07-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Arvid#8335
Now I've got both Rick Scott in the Senate, AND a Trump cultist as governor.


[07-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They need white old men who promise some minor reform that maybe will benefit women and blakks


[07-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not blakk men who want to overturn Republican racial suppression wholesale


[07-Nov-18 05:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trumps win made those who are out to get votes realize that they can behave like a shit stain and still have a chance of winning if you get enough attention.


[07-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Counterpoint: Eric Greitens


[07-Nov-18 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder most things are still 50% reporting. I'm personally not willing to call shit.


[07-Nov-18 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
lawl, the "Allow Daylight Saving Change" proposition in california is 61.6% with 14% reporting


[07-Nov-18 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
literally no one likes the time change


[07-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
no one that I know anyway


[07-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
the farm animal space minimum prop for more humane treatment is at 59.8% as well


[07-Nov-18 06:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
All the propositions here in Michigan have such wide margins that even with so many districts not reporting it's pretty much confirmed we'll have legal weed for people over 25, citizen redistricting, and automatic registration to vote at liscensing renewal.


[07-Nov-18 06:26 AM] Mikey#7286
you realize that without DST the sun would set earlier, right @Crow?


[07-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[07-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes no difference


[07-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
DST only slides things over


[07-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the actual day widens in both directions


[07-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Mikey#7286
ik


[07-Nov-18 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I think DST is flawed in that it doesn't go far enough


[07-Nov-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
the proposition in california just allows the state of california to choose whether to keep or get rid of DST permanently, not actually get rid of it


[07-Nov-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
I prefer DST over standard time


[07-Nov-18 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
continuous changes to track a specific time to the position of the sun would be considerably more ideal


[07-Nov-18 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Permanent_Daylight_Saving_Time_Measure_(2018)

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[07-Nov-18 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/fNKJPzZ.jpg

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[07-Nov-18 07:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Where his eyepatch


[07-Nov-18 07:08 AM] Arvid#8335
I'm voting Odin because he's metal as fuck


[07-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Odin aint metal,he's wise old man


[07-Nov-18 07:11 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thor might be tho


[07-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Arvid#8335
Thor is Viking metal


[07-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Arvid#8335
While Loki and his children are black metal


[07-Nov-18 08:08 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
What is Odin's answer for Ragnarök?


[07-Nov-18 08:09 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Oh wait he gets eaten by a wolf, hurrdurr


[07-Nov-18 08:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Late night steal in Wisconsin. Absentee ballots prove an upset and put the Democratic candidate over the Republican.


[07-Nov-18 08:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Wait a sec,Tyr gave up his hand to chain Fenrir and stop Ragnarok


[07-Nov-18 03:36 PM] Mikey#7286
So Colorado has a gay governor

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[07-Nov-18 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
ur mom gay

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[07-Nov-18 04:27 PM] DevField#5162
Our taoiseach is gay

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[07-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18064260/midterm-elections-turnout-women-trump-exit-polls

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The midterm election shows white women are finally starting to aba...
Women of color have backed Democrats for years. In 2018, more white women started to join them.
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[07-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, white women are racist too, but now they're realizing that the guy is *actually* sexist and that he will take away their abortion rights with a sexist Supreme Court


[07-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
a little fukking late, ladies.


[07-Nov-18 07:45 PM] Nile#1441
We get it all whites are devils


[07-Nov-18 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
le man de straw


[07-Nov-18 07:49 PM] Nile#1441
k


[07-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
The only reliable republican demographic is white men at this point


[07-Nov-18 08:06 PM] Arvid#8335
*A N G R Y  W H I T E  M E N*


[07-Nov-18 08:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
***Old angry cis white males!***


[07-Nov-18 08:21 PM] DevField#5162
*Don't forget hetero!*


[07-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Though white women in the south vote republican too


[07-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but now it's split even on white women overall


[07-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
they used to prefer Republicans


[07-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
So at this point Republicans hav only got white men really


[07-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18071438/midterm-election-results-voting-rights-georgia-florida

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Voter suppression really may have made the difference for Republic...
And that could send a message to Republicans nationwide.
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[07-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like Kemp's tactics hav won it for him


[07-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Expect him to not be the last official running for a statewide office while in charge of overseeing voting [suppression efforts].


[07-Nov-18 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[07-Nov-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i;m not entirely sure conservative voters knwo what taxes are for


[07-Nov-18 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast the ones in my hvac class who seem to assume tax paid healthcare is free ehalthcare socialism


[07-Nov-18 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do conservatives make fun of liberals for wanting free things through socialism


[07-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But demand tax cuts every election


[07-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something something EARN YOUR MONEY


[07-Nov-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, then they insist on tax cuts for those making tons on the stokk market too


[07-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/07/539109386/jeff-sessions-out-as-attorney-general-after-steady-drumbeat-of-criticism-from-tr

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Jeff Sessions Out As Attorney General After Steady Drumbeat Of Cri...
The former senator was an early supporter of the president, but he quickly lost the president's favor after recusing himself from the Russia investigation.
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[07-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Welp


[07-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
What are the best sites to get political news that isn't super biased


[07-Nov-18 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
google?


[07-Nov-18 09:55 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Google is search website? I mean I can google "news" but I was just wondering if there are any sites in particular


[07-Nov-18 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure. I havent found a true neutral site but i tend to grab from washington journal or whatever the first soruce google gives me is


[07-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again washington journal is dubious amlot of times so thye arent really my go to either


[07-Nov-18 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill


[07-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nile#1441
Most news outlets online line either right or left, the only unbiased news I ever get is from my local news


[07-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You ready for Mueller to get removed, Its? https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/17896316/matthew-whitaker-jeff-sessions-trump-mueller

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Matthew Whitaker has called the Mueller probe a "witch hunt." He...
Trump has tapped Jeff Sessions’s chief of staff as his acting replacement.
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[07-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Local news is often gobbled up by Sinclair to be made to spout right-wing propaganda


[07-Nov-18 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[07-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Nile#1441
In America, maybe.


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nile#1441
In Canada that's not the case.


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ever since they judged sinclair to be immune to the anti monopoly laws


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Local news is traaaaash


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, they almost did, but it got botched


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie More than ever there would be calls for impeachment


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it can't do its mega merger


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think even a Republican held Senate would convict him.


[07-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
but how can you impeach with only like 46 senators?


[07-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[07-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
you put far too much faith in integrity


[07-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
even a conservative SCOTUS would require him to overturn docs


[07-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Republican party ditched integrity


[07-Nov-18 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why thye installed kavanaugh


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon's appointees turned on him at SCOTUS


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They blatantly go for voter suppression, they abandoned their principles on gun control, they put in Kavanaugh (when previously he was seen as too partisan to be a fair judge)


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon's appointees weren't federalist society anything-to-stop-progress fukkwits


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the reason trump chose kavanaugh was because he openly said that a sittign president shoudl have diplomatic immunity as long as he is seated


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not diplomatic, but a form of immunity


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President should only have limited immunity


[07-Nov-18 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
closest thing i coudl think of


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, you shouldn't be able to sue the president for not giving you a job


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh wanted congress to pass a law to immunize the president from any legal process during office


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or firing you


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
he called for this while serving under Bush


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
after previously helping with going after Clinton


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh is a partisan plant, dude


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Getting in the way of the president being efficient" has turned into "The president is above the law"


[07-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
he will 100% say that Trump is above the law


[07-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kavanaugh was a Clinton Crazy lol


[07-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and turn around on a Dem president


[07-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Telling you, Dems need to fight dirty and go lower


[07-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Being the bigger man means nothing when you have no power


[07-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fighting dirtier is the entire problem


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary clintonw as an example fo when democrats go dirty


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a spiral where eventually, both sides are corrupt racist assholes and we lose any chance of getting real reform


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh I'm legitimately hoping that Musk runs


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or Bezos


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not gonna happen


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
@mylittlelesbianism Reuters, The Hill, Christian Science Monitor


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
reuters is by far the least biased because it's international


[07-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be Trump vs. Warren.


[07-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
this is by far my favorite news website though https://www.sciencedaily.com/

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[07-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will lose, but not before pulling out every single possible way to undermine voters' views of Democrats


[07-Nov-18 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she boguht out the entire DNC tried to control the liberal media and basically had no policies except "i have the power!!!"


[07-Nov-18 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also indirectly told all woment hat they were goign to hell if they didnt vote for her through the mouth of another person


[07-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
musk being president would be interesting, but he has a certain way of doing things which wouldn't make him favored by the people who work for him


[07-Nov-18 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotnt hink he wants to be president anyway


[07-Nov-18 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and despite what people keep trying to push, oprah is not goign to run because her entire thing is making money off fancy speeches, books, foods, and movies


[07-Nov-18 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and beign good at fancy speeches doesnt mean you;d make a good rpesident


[07-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
republicans in congress have been violating every tacit and informal rule and tradition that congress has used for decades to maintain at least a facade of civility


[07-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
since trump got into office


[07-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They confirmed judges during a recess ffs


[07-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
out of fear Dems might get a majority in the midterms


[07-Nov-18 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that soudns illegal


[07-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The courts now are super pakked


[07-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's legal, but shouldn't be


[07-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So expect the courts to say that a law that literally says polling places should be staffed with armed guards paid for by the Republican party is legit and not voter suppression


[07-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's where we're headed.


[07-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That or *completely* shutting down polling places in blakk areas


[07-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
on the excuse that blakks can ride to the next town over etc.


[07-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nile#1441
Hyperbole much


[07-Nov-18 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if trump tried siginign an executive order disbanding the democrats evne though it wouldnt be at all enforceable. but that's also as equelly unliekly as that would remove the one place he can point fingers to distract people


[07-Nov-18 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the democrats the republicans woudle at themselves alive


[07-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wouldn't be that blatant


[07-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, polling place shutdowns hav already been happening in predmoninantly blakk areas


[07-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they leave like one polling place around in the town


[07-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
(sometimes in a gated community...)


[07-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/sl-polling-place-close-ahead-of-november-elections-black-voters.html

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Polling Places in Black Communities Continue to Close Ahead of Nov...
This year alone, 10 counties with large black populations in Georgia closed polling spots after a white elections consultant recommended they do so to save money.


[07-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
>In the five years since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down key parts of the Voting Rights Act, nearly a thousand polling places have been shuttered across the country, many of them in southern black communities.


[07-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nile#1441
Voting is gay anyway, tbh


[07-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/10/17/17990110/georgia-senior-citizens-bus-removal-black-voters-matter-suppression

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"This is voter suppression": black seniors in Georgia ordered off ...
Voting rights advocates are accusing local officials of voter intimidation after the incident.
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[07-Nov-18 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/dennis-hof-brothel-owner-who-died-last-month-wins-election-n933366

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/dennis-hof-brothel-owner-who-died-last-month-wins-election-n933366
Dead brothel owner Dennis Hof wins Nevada election
The reality TV star was found dead on Oct. 16 after a weekend of parties celebrating his 72nd birthday.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2636781/181107-dennis-hof-mc-1027_5ee647cd10c124cc5a885cd0982e3d33.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[07-Nov-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[07-Nov-18 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
County Commissioners will appoint a replacement.


[07-Nov-18 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
brothel owner ran for nevada state legislature, died, but was voted in anyway due to being in a heavily republican district


[07-Nov-18 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
As opposed to going, "Oh, well he died well before winning so he wasn't even in the race so it should go to the runner up"


[07-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/kentucky-clerk-jailed-over-gay-marriage-licenses-loses-re-election-n933451

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https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/kentucky-clerk-jailed-over-gay-marriage-licenses-loses-re-election-n933451
Kentucky clerk jailed over gay marriage licenses loses re-election bid
Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who went to jail in 2015 for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, lost her bid for a second term on Tuesday.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2637081/181107_kim_davis_9bbf48b789da86b0a1ba3393cf10941e.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[07-Nov-18 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee what a shock


[07-Nov-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she refused to do her job and lsot it and cant get it back, this is so shocking


[07-Nov-18 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Sessions resigned


[07-Nov-18 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Not sure if I should be worried about his replacement


[07-Nov-18 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
_press appoint to instantly fire Mueller_


[07-Nov-18 11:32 PM] Arvid#8335
I mean, fuck Sessions


[07-Nov-18 11:32 PM] Arvid#8335
but yeah, we can't be sure his replacement will be any better


[07-Nov-18 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, though now that the midterms are over meuller may begin his charges


[07-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't expect anything right away


[07-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
other than Mueller getting fired on flimsy rationales


[07-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that brothel owner thing makes for a fun joke


[07-Nov-18 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
so Republicans want to purge the rolls of dead Democrats...so that they don't vote against dead Republicans ;p


[07-Nov-18 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Arvid "i mean, fuck sessions"


[07-Nov-18 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wanna participate in a fuck session with u daddy


[07-Nov-18 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
😩 😉 💦


[08-Nov-18 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
threesome with daddy Sessions


[08-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Nile#1441
Cease


[08-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You, Sessions, and granddaddy Pence?


[08-Nov-18 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
I can't wait till Trump is given a subpoena and it's found he's both not a billionaire _and_ guilty of tax fraud


[08-Nov-18 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
trump won't respond to a subpoena


[08-Nov-18 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can also do a Devil's Triangle with Kavanaugh and Ruth Bader Ginsburg


[08-Nov-18 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] he has to or it's obstruction of justice


[08-Nov-18 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
first of all, no it isn't


[08-Nov-18 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's contempt of court


[08-Nov-18 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
second, trump won't respond to a subpoena


[08-Nov-18 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His ...
The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/10/07/us/fred-trump-inv-promo-image/fred-trump-inv-promo-image-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Nov-18 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I did nothing wrong, I am pure. I am a little butterfly. I am innocent. Witch hunt." he tells his supporters as the rest of the nation becomes tired of his shit


[08-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind Trump has said he can pardon himself


[08-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he pardonned Arpaio for contempt of court


[08-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is interesting because that's not supposed to really be pardonable for obvious reasons...


[08-Nov-18 12:17 AM] Mikey#7286
Pretty sure he can't


[08-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't think Trump understands the law


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is above the law


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
https://chancellor.berkeley.edu/what-are-penalties-if-you-ignore-subpoena-or-don’t-comply


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
That is why he can ignore court orders and pardon all of his cronies


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah no it doesn't matter


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
The president is not above the law


[08-Nov-18 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
If they were


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
What cops do you think are going to arrest the president


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] Mikey#7286
Nixon would not have resigned


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Nixon was in a different political era


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] Mikey#7286
Clinton would not have been impeached


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
impeachment is not a judiciary proceeding


[08-Nov-18 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it is a legislative proceeding


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't seem to understand how the government works, so please cram it until you do


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Don't you want Trump to be held accountable?


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Nile#1441
There's no head of state that's above the law of their own nation.


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
whether or not I want him to be has no bearing on whether he will be


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't like to knowingly engage in wishful thinking


[08-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
It's clear he has done things against the law that he should not have


[08-Nov-18 12:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Tax evasion is a biiiig no no


[08-Nov-18 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
again


[08-Nov-18 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
who's going to arrest him for it and drag him to court


[08-Nov-18 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
i'll wait


[08-Nov-18 12:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Congress?


[08-Nov-18 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
congress is not a police force


[08-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nile#1441
The military :Upvote:


[08-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Every past president has released their tax return too


[08-Nov-18 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe the military would, but I am skeptical


[08-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Nile#1441
US military junta when?!?!


[08-Nov-18 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everypast president wasn;t a sham hotel owner


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
chances are if the military is arresting the president, who is the commander in chief, he has already ordered them to back down and they are persisting


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
And he's lied about his tax returns


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
in which it becomes almost-a-coup


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
"I can't release them, they're under audit"


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
but let's not continue to speculate


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes you can


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American system of chekks and balances has fatal design flaws.


[08-Nov-18 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately so


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Unfortunately for Trump


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
When he leaves office


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
He'll be forced to


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Very optimistic, aren't you


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
If he doesn't release them now


[08-Nov-18 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
>implying he'll leave office and not declare himself dictator


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He won't be forced to release anything.


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
It's the law


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if he released them, who the fuck woudl do anything about it?


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He will leave office and immediately be arrested.


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm pretty sure


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nile#1441
Imagine thinking Trump would ever do that @byte[]


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter if "it's the law"


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is above the law


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump can keep the law off him until he is out of office.


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean when he _is_ out


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
After he is out of office, it doesn't take impeachment to take him down for the whole Russia thing.


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Not now


[08-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Also


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he's legally required to disclose his returns


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if he were, it would be something to force while in office.


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
>implying Trump can make himself dictator


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not easily


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would need to be able to override congress.


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean when even your own party doesn't like you


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could be done if congress does a constitutional amendment that givs him power to override them.


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Not happening


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i;m pretty sure once hels nearing his term limit if he does win re-election he will try to ammend the constitution through means beyond his control


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party loves him


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://politics.theonion.com/inconsolable-jeff-sessions-tries-to-commit-suicide-by-s-1826462420

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Inconsolable Jeff Sessions Tries To Commit Suicide By Smoking Joint
WASHINGTON—Following months of bruising criticism from Democrats and President Trump alike, an inconsolable Jeff Sessions was reportedly trying to commit suicide Thursday by smoking a joint. “I swore I’d never take the coward’s way out, but what choice do I have?” s...
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[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just fear how much he can hurt them.


[08-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
No they don't


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
He's not even Republican


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't fukking matter.


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party *has changed*


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is representative of the modern Republican party.


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
If that's how you want to put it then the Republicans aren't Republican


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is their virtues put into a person.


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
he is the head of the GOP


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump si worse, trump is corporatist, which is what the republican party is


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye are no longer conservative


[08-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
He's not a politician, at least he wasn't before he was elected


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
but he is literally a politician


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye havent been conservative for a logn tiem now


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is the head of the Republican party


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
_his statements and words are US policy_


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is what the Republican party voters chose as such


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
He doesn't understand how the government works at all lmao


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't technicality that away.


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
that is the definition of being a politician


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nile#1441
Dare I ask what you consider as "conservative" ?


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
neither do you, @Mikey


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't need to understand anything


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
I probably know more than Trump


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do not care how the law actually works


[08-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
that was the whole fukking point of pakking the judiciary


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can change the law to whatever they want with the right judges in place


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can decide that it's okay to hav poll taxes if they really want.


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
1.
holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.
synonyms:    traditionalist, traditional, conventional, orthodox, old-fashioned, dyed-in-the-wool, hidebound, unadventurous, set in one's ways; More
noun
1.
a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.
synonyms:    right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nile#1441
And what about Trump makes him ineligible to hold this definition


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans are absolutely still conservative


[08-Nov-18 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
so is trump


[08-Nov-18 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point


[08-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
1968


[08-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans are trying to erase that the Southern Strategy was ever a thing


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nile#1441
For all intents and purposes he is a conservative, apart from some things he's said.


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just another moment in a long line of conservative historical revision


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 9 6 8


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
conservatism will kill this country lol


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the idea


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the country being alive means it's taken over by blakks


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the country must die.


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nile#1441
I'm fine with the death of the U.S.


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean they're already slowing scientific progress


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nile#1441
Bring back the 13 Colonies :Upvote:


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
cutting funds to NASA


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
for one


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
the EPA


[08-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
etc


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservatives are a resource parasite


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you know what happened in 1968?


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Read up on it.


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
my history is rusty


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nile#1441
m8 just tell us


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
except for major parts


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the very very tl;dr is


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not sure what you are alluding to


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
1968 is today's politics


[08-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah me neither


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Civil rights was becoming a thing


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakks suddenly could actually vote etc.


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
i know that part


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives were maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad about it


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was at the time 22 years old


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
getting money from his father's business


[08-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
which made a lot of money by forcing out blakk tenants in favor of white ones


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
why am I not surprised


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(a lawsuit eventually came and it was settled without an admission of guilt, which Trump is proud of)


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean i already know he was given way more than just a million


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie was 27


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
he joined civil rights protestors


[08-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary was 21


[08-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Mikey#7286
i've seen a picture of him being arrested back then


[08-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Nile#1441
My mom was 3


[08-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was nearing the end of college


[08-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
when she did graduate, she was their first student speaker at graduation and talked a big speech about standing up for your rights


[08-Nov-18 12:38 AM] Mikey#7286
i hope the dems taking control of the house will prevent the GOP and trump from doing more stupid shit


[08-Nov-18 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it won't


[08-Nov-18 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
have you seen the news today?


[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610

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[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now that the midterms are done the republicans will do more stupid shit than ever before


[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i thought he resigned?


[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
MLK was shot in 1968


[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
intexda you should take some time to proofread before hitting enter


[08-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean


[08-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Mikey#7286
all they have to do is stall shit


[08-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So was Bobby Kennedy


[08-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sessions was forced to resign.


[08-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[08-Nov-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stalling only works for so long


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Mikey#7286
but he's the attorney general, i thought firing him would be considered obstruction of justice


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and stallign the congressional bills doesn't stop trump from making bad executive orders


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Mikey#7286
trump has two years, we need to get trump out by then


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it depends on "what" he fired sessions for


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
in this case it's very clear why sessions was fired and so it is potential obstruction


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
but that doesn't matter


[08-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
1968 also had two blakk olympic medalists raise closed fists as a symbol of protest


[08-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
their medals were taken away.


[08-Nov-18 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
trump doesn't follow the law


[08-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Current politics are basically as if 1968 was yesterday


[08-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing has fukking changed


[08-Nov-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans also don't have to maintain an image anymore until the presidential election so they can now start screwing voer people even more


[08-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the same racism is there because many of the young people then were racist and are still around today


[08-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who control our country are those older generations


[08-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
until they are gone, we will still be living in essentially an internet-connected version of the mid 20th century


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nile#1441
Christ almighty, is this all you're gonna talk about today


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it is the politics thread


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, gays and blacks and women do have rights now


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
that's different from back then


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
To an extent


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
not that conservatives aren't trying to take them away


[08-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but our president wants to take away those rights everywhere he still can


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has tried to prevent any trans people from joining the military


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only thing that stopped him were the courts


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and republicans are able to pakk those because they control the senate


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
trump may not follow court orders but the military does


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually, it will reach a point where the courts cannot stop him.


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
lol


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye basically want to reset the laws to when they were in their 20's but with a much more devastated economy


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican strategy is to neutralize the system of chekks and balances.


[08-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
Good


[08-Nov-18 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a life and death battle for conservatism


[08-Nov-18 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you really should brush up on American history, @Mikey


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
american history is boring


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
he should brush up on "basic argumentative skills" too


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I recommend everything from JFK to HW Bush


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Bill Clinton and W Bush as a bonus


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
just watch Crash Course


[08-Nov-18 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
you won't be bored


[08-Nov-18 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
well i'm sorry i'm not a good debator


[08-Nov-18 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S64zRnnn4Po&list=PL8dPuuaLjXtMwmepBjTSG593eG7ObzO7s&index=40

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[08-Nov-18 12:49 AM] Nile#1441
Canada and much of Latin America have more boring histories than America


[08-Nov-18 12:49 AM] Nile#1441
C'mon now


[08-Nov-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your link is broken


[08-Nov-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
works just fine for me


[08-Nov-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nvm it fixed itself


[08-Nov-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem was on my end


[08-Nov-18 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it wasn't really for you anyway, it was for Mikey


[08-Nov-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know


[08-Nov-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i might as well unrust myself on this myself


[08-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.moveon.org/images/20170726_MoveOn_MuellerFiringRapidResponse_website_banner.png

**NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW!
MUELLER PROTECTION RAPID RESPONSE!**

**BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME!**

Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation.

Whitaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whitaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops.
 
--

**Donald Trump just crossed a red line,
violating the independence of the investigation** pursuing criminal charges in the Trump-Russia scandal and cover-up.

Trump putting himself above the law is a threat to our democracy, and we’ve got to get Congress to stop him.

We're mobilizing immediately to demand accountability, because Trump is not above the law.

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Nobody Is Above the Law—Mueller Protection Rapid Response
BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorne...
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[08-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**Please make note of the date, time, and description [using the map and lists arranged by state on the web link]**
to confirm that the host is able to organize the event on such short notice!
In general, rallies are suggested to begin @ 5 PM local time.
**But individual local events may vary—please confirm details on your event page.**

Once you sign up, make sure to invite friends to join you at the event!

_Note: If you choose to attend an event,
you agree to engage in nonviolent, peaceful action, to act lawfully,
and to strive to de-escalate any potential confrontations with those who may disagree with our values._


[08-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
whew copypasta


[08-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
yep, and a really important one


[08-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I'm happy that democrats got the house and several governor mansions and state legislatures


[08-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
but that orange piece of shit in the white house is trying to put a stop to the mueller investigation now as plan b


[08-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not enuff to undo extreme gerrymandering


[08-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the house in 2020 will be a struggle


[08-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho Dems consistently win the popular vote


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I'm still cautiously optimistic because the House of Representatives should still be able to get Mueller to assist them in January, and it's also likely Mueller and Rosenstein have a 'plan B' of their own for this shit


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is above the law


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no question about it


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rosenstein won't be able to do much


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then we will put a stop to that


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
how


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the House vs Whitaker


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
you're not trump


[08-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whitaker will win


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] did you see my big fat post about mass mobilization across the country tomorrow afternoon?


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
how does that stop trump from firing mueller


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
(hint: it doesn't)


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol protesting


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
that doesn't sway the courts


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you really want to stop Republicans, you hav to vote


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
with that attitude democrats wouldn't have gotten so many wins in the midterm election


[08-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but RIP that


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
young people weren't able to register enuff to vote enuff to sway things


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this isn't just any protesting


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this is absolutely massive widespread planned protest at almost every fucking major courthouse in the entire fucking country


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this has been planned for a long time


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
so


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protesting might sway opinions from "stuff is ok" towards "people are angry, so stuff might not be ok", though.


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you're gonna achieve the massive accomplishment of...inconveniencing judges a little bit


[08-Nov-18 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Did someone say basic argumentative skills? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSvsx8116eZjiLMHpa5TZZHMUIzCsvkTS

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[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know, people protest at the Supreme Court all the damn time


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't do anything but make SCOTUS mad about it


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get someone to clear a path


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protesting doesn't do shit, mate


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
protesting doesn't sway the people that matter because the people that matter want to imprison all the protestors anyway


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only things that talk are money and votes


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
hit them with cars, tear gas, shoot them


[08-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav enuff votes in the right places


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
All we can do now is divest in Trump ventures


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Listen: I'm not here to engage in pointless arguments with people who say 'why bother it doesnt matter' after such massive shifts in the political landscape last night


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
convince investors that their souls aren't worth selling (good lukk)


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if you dont want to stand up against the orange bastard fine


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does matter


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but protesting is pointless BS


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
@Starlight Glimmer fuck you for saying my argument is pointless


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I _voted_


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I _care about this_


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or convince investors that trump industries are about to crash and burn in terms of stock


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
I did too


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I am still counting on the hundreds of thousands of people ready to march tomorrow


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
But like, I don't even know what's going on in this chat.


[08-Nov-18 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is some surreal shit.


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
But I am not going say "this will do anything" because I'm not hopelessly optimisic of the situation


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic bleeding heart problem


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] well, yes, you voted, but... why would protesting not count as *caring about it*?


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
this idea that if we all stand up as one


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
we can like


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] If you care so much, why keep saying 'dont bother its pointless'?


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
spirit bomb the gov't


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
protest all you want


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
or implying


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it won't change the outcome


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives don't fucking care


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't doesn't care about protests


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the political noobs might


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
protests do not get a vote


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] I understand if you're feeling helpless or frustrated. I've felt that way too sometimes. We all have.


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it is the political noobs we have to convince


[08-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you are doing with this is wasting energy that could be used to get people registered to vote for 2020


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
But declaring out loud that others shouldn't bother helps none of us


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the political noobs vote democrat


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if you dont have the energy for it then dont try to take away the energy of those who do


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If young people voted as much as they protested, Republicans wouldn't be in power right now


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/QOB2OERJCPA

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Feminist NPCs are a Protected Class
Don't assault a digital representation of a feminist or YouTube will delete YOUR ENTIRE CHANNEL. You can support me via: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/sargon...
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[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying the protestors don't vote


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also,


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are completely wasting people's time by making your opposition in the form of a sternly worded letter, basically


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
you also misrepresented me


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@SeraphimDawn >Sargon


[08-Nov-18 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I never said "don't protest"


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I said "trump is above the law" and we went from there


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nebbie Registering people for 2020? we have two years for that. Trump destroying the Mueller investigation? we have RIGHT NOW.


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND YOU WILL SQUANDER THEM


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you fukking get it?


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Apparent some guy posted a video of a footage of him punching a woman NPC in a FICTIONAL VIDEO GAME got his channel deleted no strikes warning or anything for "promoting violence"


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Remember that time all those workers struck and protested for better pay and since it was a protest and not a vote for a new law nothing happened.


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Registering to vote *exists* to make it harder to vote


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it *exists* to limit the power of the young and minorities


[08-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those two years are a finite amount of time


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
not very much time


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protesting must be done right -- strikes count as protesting


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
@SeraphimDawn his channel was restored m8


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Even if you guys think it's futile, there are already hundreds of thousands of Americans who have been waiting for this moment, itching to walk out of their jobs and schools and protest against this shit, because this is the tipping point.


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/

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Nobody Is Above the Law—Mueller Protection Rapid Response
BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorne...
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.moveon.org/images/20170802_MoveOn_MuellerFiring_website_thumbnail.png


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they will be squandered because people will be busy organizing protests


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I won't keep spamming that tho, I promise. Twice should be enough


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care how many there are


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is no "tipping point"


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
General strikes, in particular, might be an useful tool for the lower classes to negotiate with the government


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is argumentum ad populum basically


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
General strike can indeed rise out of this


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
strikes are a useful protest


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
this won't turn into a strike


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
but how will they help the government change


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@SeraphimDawn >implying right-wingers never promote violence


[08-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you force it to


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
organize a damn strike


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
not a protest


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
a protest will not do shit


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
a strike might do something a little bit


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, that vid was light, compared to all the nefarious shit the right-wing tends to spout


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but VOTING is the primary thing


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] @Nebbie The protests are going to be surrounding major courthouses across the country and **STAYING THERE**


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if you think that wont have any effect you're just being too negative


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get all these people who want to protest and REGISTER THEM TO VOTE


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
blokking courthouses doesn't do anything


[08-Nov-18 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying vote registration isn't being done by the protesters


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the courts won't take it into consideration


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pick up all the protesters in busses and drive them to ID registrATION plces


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are fukking judges


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I will be incredibly surprised if there aren't voter registration efforts at these protests


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
two birds with one stone


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get thme registered


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really isn't, Badger


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now tyou have a voting army


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the fukking problem


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
these people believe protests > voting in power


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is their major malfunction


[08-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think if they blokk every courthouse, it does more than visiting every polling place


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nebbie You keep talking like these widespread protestors tomorrow and the blue voters yesterday can't be the same thing.


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
the same people


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a finite budget of caring about things


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
you will expend it


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we need MORE voters in 2020


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, but protesters aren't just protesting as their only political activity. 
The point of protesting is PR. Bringing attention to the issue at hand, and making the populace at large aware that the issue exists.


[08-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
America has less than 50% voter turnout ffs


[08-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's terrible compared to much of Europe


[08-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get registered to vote THEN do other things


[08-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting is by far the most efficient way to impact this stuff


[08-Nov-18 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially int he off season when political guards are down


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you get young people to vote as much as old


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans go bye bye


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you get that?


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people vote far less than old


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
so yes, these protests are a waste of effort


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
There was record numbers of young voters this midterm


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and it wasn't enuff


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but there needs to be mroe


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
we need young people to vote as much as old


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to devote SHITTONS of money to getting people registered


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to break that record into fine particles of dust


[08-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get 90% of people over 20 registered to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
it was enough to win many governor mansions and state legistatures, get a few more democrat trifectas, take the house of representatives, and install many many lower rank and file political positions across the nation


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you can send Republicans pakking.


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All this neglect for protestors may imply that you guys don't think people voicing their concerns even matter in our system


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if you were expecting democrats to take 100% of everything last night you were fantasizing


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now it doesn't


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When, in fact, voicing these concerns must be the priority


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans KNOW their policies are unpopular


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voting is a major way to voice concerns


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats barely got a few governors in place


[08-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
many states still hav trifectas


[08-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
states that are rural areas where blakk voters are suppressed


[08-Nov-18 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Voting sure is, but beforehand, we have to at least teach the people about the issues they should care about


[08-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and where they will redraw the maps after 2020


[08-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People already know the issues by and large


[08-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 is right, we **must** mobilize and stand up for what's right and lawful


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Wall Street protests, while ultimately useless in convincing the ones in power in the short term, were at least sufficient for changing the political landscape within the working class


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
democrats and independants have been saying over and over that neutering the mueller investigation will be the last straw and that website has been coordinating event planning at hundreds of locations across the nation for a long time


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protesting is, indeed, important, we just don't notice its indirect advantages.


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuking Mueller isn't the end


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protesting might not convince the judges or the republicans, but it might convince the voters.


[08-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there's nothing we can do to stop it at this point


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
All we can do is hope the judges still in place stop it


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this is key. if every single event planning place is set to protest all at once, it will be **huge**. most protests are focused in a few major cities per state at most


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
being widespread will make a big difference


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it won't


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
also


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
democrats


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
more important than the protests is that the media has to do their fucking job


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
the ones who will want to do this


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
are focused in cities


[08-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans control the outer areas


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will not protest with you


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they believe that destroying the foundation of our Democracy is okay if it keeps the niggers down.


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is their current policy.


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nebbie As I've said, I'm not _too_ worried about Mueller yet either, because of plan B he may have and also the house of reps getting to assist him in January, but this attempt to dismantle or disband his investigation **must be met with consequences**


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh, i will concede on the points about the media and rural areas. The Murican left needs to expand more into the countryside. 
But that doesn't mean protesting is worthless.


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you're not going to fix the problem you are after.


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a consequence.


[08-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural areas want the left to concede racial points.


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which they should not do.


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you really want change


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
go to blakk areas


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get them to sit in on city council meetings


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
get them to boycott things


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
do what they did in the civil rights days


[08-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Go to Alabama, where raw sewage is a common sight in the blakk belt


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
You make many good long-term strategy suggestions


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
still won't change the minds of thousands of americans ready to march and protest now


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get them to force their local gov'ts to pay for their sewage systems


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and desegregate the schools and housing


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEN


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you've got them involved


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
get them to also vote in 2020


[08-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
retake the rural areas in the south using minorities, basically


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But none of this stops Mueller being fired


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you do realize that there will be thousands of employers suddenly without an employee, right?


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this is also part general strike


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
people are walking out


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, the racist farmers will be pissed at that, but that sounds like a good strategy


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll just be fired cause RIGHT TO WORK


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
sometimes what is right is more important


[08-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north carolina is a right to work state as well


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't fight for what's right with weapons that don't work.


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Use what actually might.


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and you might actually have a decent protest if you get allt he bglakc people in my town to do the thing


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
black*


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, there you go, you convinced me in some points, Nebbie


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna repeat this unrelated thing because it's weird


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can edit messages on Discord.


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well locally anyway


[08-Nov-18 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just don't act so rude, i think...


[08-Nov-18 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you're going to need a bigger crowd of blakc people if you want national effort


[08-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri voted for a higher minimum wage, medical marijuana, redistricting, limits on lobbying, and a senator who hates all of those things.


[08-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get the entire blakk belt to force the south to recognize it


[08-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I said last night, Its


[08-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voters want legal pot, higher wages, etc....and GOP representation


[08-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
because voters are racist/sexist and the GOP is full of old white men who promise to not help blakk women


[08-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is at its core, identity politics


[08-Nov-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems need blakk votes, but not to appear to be blakk or to strongly push for blakk rights from on down.


[08-Nov-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the push must be ground up


[08-Nov-18 02:14 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I just took the time to count, and there will be protests in **884** cities


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
great


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
now get the media to do its fucking job


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, sure, @Starlight Glimmer , but the issue isn't just the cities


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and don't be surprised when mueller gets fired anyway


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] The media will have no choice but to pay attention to protests that massive and widespread


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
hell, I'll even go to the protest downtown


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Also we need to get more millennials voting bc most of them lean left but they don't really vote


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are any of these cities rural towns?


[08-Nov-18 02:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] Thank you! But be sure to check that link for the planned protest location.


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The countryside is grossly overrepresented as part of the electoral college deal, and we have to find a way to convince these areas


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 If you mean we should also have protests in smaller towns, I'm pretty sure a lot of those cities on the lists are towns too.


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
'city' can mean really small places too in america


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
or maybe its a regional thing


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, 884 sounds like a lot


[08-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
it sure is!


[08-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but rural towns tend to be over looked inf avor of large cities with larger populations


[08-Nov-18 02:17 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
plus Washington DC of course, that will be the biggest of all I'm sure


[08-Nov-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) rural town protests might grab the attention of rural people passing by, though


[08-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also tend to be concentrated inw ashington dc


[08-Nov-18 02:17 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and a couple places in British Columbia, Canada too


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which i think is actually one of the reasons the pwoer of protest is weakening


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
And even the most sparsely populated states are getting three major protest locations, minimum


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you;re focusing it entirely on one spot isntead of spreading out aorudn the country


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
this is going to be huge


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**we wont let that orange turd think he still gets to 'win'**


[08-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that fucker will go down


[08-Nov-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope he does, too.


[08-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@prism stryder(intexda) Look at the huge list of all the locations. https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/

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https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response
Nobody Is Above the Law—Mueller Protection Rapid Response
BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorne...
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.moveon.org/images/20170802_MoveOn_MuellerFiring_website_thumbnail.png


[08-Nov-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl use the protest as a major distraction tactic whiel you roudn up the blakc folk and get them to registry stations


[08-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Orange turd needs to fucc off


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then we will go out and tell him so tomorrow.


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
democrats take the house and the fucker thinks he can still get rid of mueller


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
mueller will do his plan b


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and we the people will do our plan b


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither Plan B can work


[08-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
cease your endless pessimism.


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if you really want to start fixing things, another avenue


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to stop Sinclair media


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
If Trump wants to fire Mueller, he can fire Mueller and nobody can stop him


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Not John Kelly, not the acting AG, not the House, nobody


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they grab up local news stations and make them spout Republican propaganda


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can air trumps dirty laundry all over tv but it wont matter if there's no oen to indict him


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
overall, the media, especially on TV, often reiterates Republican lies


[08-Nov-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
while looking skeptically at scientific facts that contradict them


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to stop that to cut a lot of the rural support


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stop protesting and start maign the replublican nightmare come true


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nebbie You are right, reigning in the greed and stupidity of the mass media machines is a huge priority too


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get minorities registered to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get people to protest Sinclair


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get young folk registered to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
get those local stations to go on strike


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook and Twitter need to be restrained


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Listen, this huge protest can evolve into addressing all these problems too


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if possible, free them from Sinclair's grip


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it can't


[08-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
don't be dismayed because mueller is the focal point


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
no it can't


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hit businesses not politicians


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
time is money


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
effort is money


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
money is meaningless without democracy


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is only so much money and free stuff around


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
this protest will not meaningfully change any governmental policy


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
concentrate protests inw almarts and banks


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is stuff that takes lots of money to do


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
meaningless to all but the aristocracy


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
costthme business and make thme lose money


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that's what will happen


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say the opposite, actually


[08-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if most people walk out tomorrow


[08-Nov-18 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the aristocracy has enough money to hire police forces to restrain protestors


[08-Nov-18 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They aren't directly harmed by people protesting -- if we want to harm them, we have to use other tactics


[08-Nov-18 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like the before mentioned general strike


[08-Nov-18 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
they already have police forces to keep black people and homeless people away from them


[08-Nov-18 02:25 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 This can easily evolve into a general strike, many people don't want to stop the protest until the orange turd stops his shitting on mueller


[08-Nov-18 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protesting is, in its essence, aimed at the less aware lower classes


[08-Nov-18 02:25 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 also forcing the shitty greedy mass media to pay attention and spread awareness


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rent billboards


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
it would not matter if the protestors literally occupied the streets for months without ever leaving


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
trump has infinite stamina


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not saying we should *not* protest tomorrow, but the key thing is, we have to be aware of the system behind what makes the GOP thrive in the USA


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rent billboards and get people registered to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
he could fire mueller twenty times over in that period


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I'm grateful for all the good ideas and suggestions


[08-Nov-18 02:26 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
But please, if at all possible, please go out to protest tomorrow.


[08-Nov-18 02:27 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I can't keep staying and discussing this, I am already incredibly wiped out from this incredibly busy past 24 hours of politics


[08-Nov-18 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have class tomorrow and i dont live anywhere near wahsington dc


[08-Nov-18 02:27 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I've got the word out to everypony here and on derpi, and that was my goal


[08-Nov-18 02:27 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
How you choose to act is your choice


[08-Nov-18 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my town will liekly never see a drop of this protest


[08-Nov-18 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] are you gonna reply to him?


[08-Nov-18 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
what's there to say


[08-Nov-18 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, just be nice or something


[08-Nov-18 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He means no harm


[08-Nov-18 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
have I been mean?


[08-Nov-18 02:29 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] no you haven't


[08-Nov-18 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, at least in my view, you seemed a bit like it, but again, it's the internet, words typed and sent don't have emotions attached to them


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Thank you for being concerned about me, but @byte[]  and @Nebbie aren't trying to cause trouble or troll or anything like that. They are obviously decent people.


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeha iw as right this thing is never touching my town


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I am a bit flustered but I am not trying to be mean


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
just realistic


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I understand


[08-Nov-18 02:30 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] In this 'age of trump', we need to not worry about realism, cause those fuckers sure dont


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
why wouldn't you


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriosuly though the best way to fight the GOP is to take as many busses as you can, round up as many people as you can, and register to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] Let's make this 'non-reality' a reality and mass mobilize in protest otmorrow


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
if you aren't realistic how will you enact realistic policy


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
If Trump wants to fire Mueller he will fire him and no amount of protesting will change that


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Remember that Trump eats up negative media coverage and spins it to his advantage


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
obviously something like enacting laws requires a lot more careful thought and deliberation


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
mass protests are about energy and passion and spirit


[08-Nov-18 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Dare I say this protest is _in his favor_


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will probably take your protest and put it in a violent light for all his cronies


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] _Anything_ the democrats do is 'in his favor'.


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yeah... it could go well, but it could also backfire


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] _Anything_ we do will be labeled as bad no matter what


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"look at how these violent democrats have swarmed washington and started threatening my life"


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, what doesn't in regards to accusations against Trump or standing up to him


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] So we can sit on our hands and wait for the fucking fascists in washington to get their way and usurp this power from the people


[08-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
or we can march tomorrow.


[08-Nov-18 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a false dichotomy


[08-Nov-18 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you coud;l register people to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
en masse


[08-Nov-18 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
in fact neither of those things would really be realistic predictions for the short term


[08-Nov-18 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not for the short term, sure, but a lot of nefarious policies can be enacted


[08-Nov-18 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll enact them to spite the protestors


[08-Nov-18 02:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] Wrong. Trump attempting to render Mueller's investigation obsolete is probably the most overtly fascist move the orange fucker has made yet.


[08-Nov-18 02:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
he's saying 'you cant hold me accountable'


[08-Nov-18 02:34 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we will say **fuck you**


[08-Nov-18 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
we've said fuck you to him before


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**not in 884 cities all at once**


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we've told him fuck you plenty of times


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
he's viciously attacked us for it


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take those 884 cities and register thme to vote


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someday, people might get tired of Trump's "victim" antics, but... that's not a given.


[08-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Do you guys think humanity can't multi-task or something?


[08-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we don't have to choose protest OR vote


[08-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we can do BOTH


[08-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our resources are limited per time


[08-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Invest in the most efficient things first


[08-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
And screaming at the top of our lungs in front of all the major government buildings across the nation and staying there for as long as it takes seems like a good use of it


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"seems"


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
millions have been waiting for this moment


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it *feels* good


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Given how you word it... i'm not too sure :c


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it doesnt actually matter


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
have been preparing for over a year


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s been done 20 tiems over the last year and a half


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making yourself feel good without actually causing any changes is selfish and stupid.


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
in smaller numbers


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bigger numbers doesnt change that it;s been done


[08-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
__Enough.__


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no sufficient size.


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
You can say 'dont bother, stay at home' over and over if you want


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like going up to Trump and farting


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we arent sayign to stay at home


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
but that won't change the minds of thousands, perhaps millions of americans marching tomorrow


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't matter how smelly the room is


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
he isn't going to budge.


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we;re sayign to take your protests and redirect them to voter registration


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
there will be voter registration at the protests


[08-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Redirect this energy into things that hav chances of success.


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The DMV is the place to register


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a good start


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
not courthouses, usually.


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I don't know if you've been paying attention, but this is a very social media orientated world we live in


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All i'll say, i'll be waiting for the expected 2020 crash with anticipation, if none of our direct strategies work.


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
swarm the dmvs


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
if you think there won't be huge waves of effect from this effort in 884 cities


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you are blind


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then use social media to coordinate effectively.


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But social media in and of itself doesn't affect things.


[08-Nov-18 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If it does happen, Trump might not survive it, but that also depends on the strategies his opposition has used beforehand.


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
yet i share with you this massive coordinated effort that's been in the works for months to counter a mueller firing


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and you dismiss it as pointless and futile


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Starlight Glimmer no need to vent so much right now


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
but it won't counter the firing


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the problem


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the firing will still happen


[08-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 You're right, I should stop arguing. This is futile.


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I don't have to change the minds of a handful of pessimistic ponies.


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
But I'd rather do so.


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you feel like your point isn't going through, wave a polite "bye", pull back, and rethink it


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
You guys don't have to march and protest. You aren't being forced to.


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I couldntevne reach the protests if i tried


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm _going_ to protest!


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
All I ask instead, is to stop running around telling me and presumably others that activism is worthless and pointless


[08-Nov-18 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I just know it will have no effect


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Mueller will be fired


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
There is almost no doubt


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but good luck with your protest


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
do you really think there would've been as many blue wins last night if there wasn't the social effects of activism the past two years?


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope it goes well


[08-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@prism stryder(intexda) Since you admit that, let me admit something too


[08-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I'm not going to my local protest. It shames me deeply, and I wish I could. But I will literally be in the way.


[08-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I have crippling, intense social anxiety, like early seasons Fluttershy.


[08-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I have trouble handling normal conversations with one or two strangers


[08-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
something this intense will just result in me losing my mind or panicking and being a problem for others


[08-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
so I'm doing what I can and spreading the word instead


[08-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
It's hard enough for me to speak up about 'controversial' and/or 'intense' stuff like this online, but it's the least i can do.


[08-Nov-18 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also rent billboards, those thigns are surprisingly effective at spreading messages or raising curiosity


[08-Nov-18 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as you dont throw slander upthey shoudl go well


[08-Nov-18 02:45 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
So that's why I want to make it clear to you, @Nebbie , I have nothing against you or others not going, because that would make me a hypocrite. I can only _hope_ enough people have the will and ability to go in my stead.


[08-Nov-18 02:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] Thank you again for volunteering to go, but please try to avoid so much negativity while you're there.  it's important to be skeptical sometimes, but for an energizing social effort it doesn't help.


[08-Nov-18 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
that would be defeating the point of going


[08-Nov-18 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I know how to act


[08-Nov-18 02:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
thank you


[08-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Nile#1441
What is this about


[08-Nov-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a massive protest happenign tomorrow


[08-Nov-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll be doing homework all day but i wish the protesters well and i hope thye stay safe


[08-Nov-18 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile something about a huge anti-Trump protest that's gonna happen tomorrow, and people are debating if it'll have an effect or not


[08-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nile#1441
So many of those have been happening that I'm just so done with it.


[08-Nov-18 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i hope conservatives dont try to sneak in and make things into violent riots


[08-Nov-18 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it happens with mass protests of any sort


[08-Nov-18 02:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nile this will take place in **884** cities, in front of major government buildings and courthouses, all at once.


[08-Nov-18 02:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I really must go and rest, but I am going to go ahead and post the whole thing one more time for newcomers' sakes


[08-Nov-18 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck


[08-Nov-18 02:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://www.trumpisnotabovethelaw.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.moveon.org/images/20170726_MoveOn_MuellerFiringRapidResponse_website_banner.png

**NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW!
MUELLER PROTECTION RAPID RESPONSE!**

**BREAKING: PROTESTS CALLED FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 5 PM LOCAL TIME!**

Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation.

Whitaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whitaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops.
 
--

**Donald Trump just crossed a red line,
violating the independence of the investigation** pursuing criminal charges in the Trump-Russia scandal and cover-up.

Trump putting himself above the law is a threat to our democracy, and we’ve got to get Congress to stop him.

We're mobilizing immediately to demand accountability, because Trump is not above the law.

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[08-Nov-18 02:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**Please make note of the date, time, and description [using the map and lists arranged by state on the web link]**
to confirm that the host is able to organize the event on such short notice!
In general, rallies are suggested to begin @ 5 PM local time.
**But individual local events may vary—please confirm details on your event page.**

Once you sign up, make sure to invite friends to join you at the event!

_Note: If you choose to attend an event,
you agree to engage in nonviolent, peaceful action, to act lawfully,
and to strive to de-escalate any potential confrontations with those who may disagree with our values._


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] Nile#1441
"our democracy" I hate this phrase


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
884 cities, plus washignton dc, puerto rico, virgin islands, and victoria & vancouver BC, CA


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Starlight Glimmer don't bother, Nile is an absolute monarchist


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For reasons i cannot grasp


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] Nile#1441
"vancouver BC"
Why are Canadians protesting a world leader who isn't theirs


[08-Nov-18 02:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nile Democracy is always about 'our', so go join a monarchy if need be


[08-Nov-18 02:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nile I'd rather even more international cities join in, but two is nice too. Why in BC, CA only I don't know.


[08-Nov-18 02:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Now I must rest.


[08-Nov-18 02:52 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Goodnight everypony, and good luck marching on the courthouses and federal buildings nationwide tomorrow


[08-Nov-18 02:53 AM] Nile#1441
Won't be doing that, he's literally #notmypresident


[08-Nov-18 02:53 AM] Nile#1441
(Canadian)


[08-Nov-18 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Nov-18 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obstructofuck


[08-Nov-18 02:53 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Nile That is fair. Try to spread the word to any American friends you have.


[08-Nov-18 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a word now


[08-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
'Goodnight America, and all the ships at sea.'


[08-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nile#1441
Weird


[08-Nov-18 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl add obstructofuck to the dictionary


[08-Nov-18 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/media/trump-cnn-press-conference/index.html

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White House pulls CNN's Jim Acosta's pass after contentious news c...
In a stunning break with protocol, the White House said Wednesday night that it's suspending CNN chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta's hard pass "until further notice."
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[08-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nile#1441
Nice


[08-Nov-18 03:05 AM] Deleted User#0000
Amazing https://babylonbee.com/news/apostle-pauls-i-voted-sticker-unearthed

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Apostle Paul's 'I Voted' Sticker Unearthed
ITALY—Now, here's a timely find: archaeologists have just announced the discovery of the Apostle Paul's "I Voted" sticker, indicating he proudly participated in Roman political life.Evidence suggests the Apostle Paul proudly wore the sticker after voting in local Roman elec...
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[08-Nov-18 03:06 AM] Nile#1441
🤔 😂


[08-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://66.media.tumblr.com/812d3a876d12d0c77fd5de96bc31dd88/tumblr_phspsrAH531rcehv2_540.jpg

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[08-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not 3? Or are all those third party candidates that can't win technically pussies?


[08-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nile#1441
Yes


[08-Nov-18 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[08-Nov-18 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a case where SCOTUS overturned its own power


[08-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually guys, we were never allowed to do this, so just turn to uh...Trump, okay? Yeah, we'll just go home.


[08-Nov-18 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/lIrEFxO.jpg

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[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
>communist 
>corporate power
what


[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's info wars


[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
"It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to have the right buzzwords."


[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
what exactly is info wars


[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
"It's the "Nazis were socialists" kind of retarded logic."


[08-Nov-18 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Nov-18 05:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also: https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1060354414458953729?s=20

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[08-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traps are gay tho


[08-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
infowars is far right


[08-Nov-18 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
@Starlight Glimmer <3 infowars is a website for apocalyptic conspiracy nuts


[08-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care which direction of right


[08-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just has to be far


[08-Nov-18 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
they believe vaccines cause autism, 9/11 was an inside job, the holocaust never happened, and school shootings are a hoax to get people to take their guns


[08-Nov-18 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
they're putting chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' frogs gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8

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[08-Nov-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65itXRMsNEI

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ugotaphonenumber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65itXRMsNEI
YTP Alex jones is sexually frustrated and confused
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/65itXRMsNEI/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
accurate depiction of jones


[08-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/us/politics/john-fitzgerald-holocaust-denial.html

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Holocaust Denier in California Congressional Race Leaves State G.O...
John Fitzgerald placed second in a House primary just after the state Republican Party discovered his anti-Semitic views and rescinded its endorsement.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/07/08/us/08xp-nazi-print/07xp-nazi-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that a holocaust denier was the republican candidate for a US representative district in california


[08-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
oh gods


[08-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
how do you just deny 6 million people being killed


[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
12+ million


[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
killed gypsies, socialists, etc


[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
gays


[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457

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[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
wait wow I don't think I learned about that in school


[08-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
needless to say, he got stomped


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
learned about what


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
the 12+M?


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
6 million is just the jews


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
high school history only teaches about the 6 million jews killed


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
yeah


[08-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
it almost never mentions the others


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it's like 6 million Jews, 1 million Gypsies, 1 million Russian soliders, the rest gays, socialists, etc.


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
black people etc


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
nah they were extremely rare


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
though I learned about the holocaust pretty early probably 10-11


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
a decision was literally made on them to not make a decision


[08-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a decision on what to do would be a waste of time


[08-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution

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Documenting Numbers of Victims of the Holocaust and Nazi Persecution
The Holocaust is the best documented case of genocide. Despite this, calculating the numbers of individuals who were killed as the result of Nazi policies is an impossible task.
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[08-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I should really study world war 2 history in depth


[08-Nov-18 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
stalin killed more people than anyone else


[08-Nov-18 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
during peacetime


[08-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
pol pot killed the most by population percentage


[08-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
tbh anything 1900 onwards is probably pretty important


[08-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Starlight Glimmer <3 basically Germany wanted bakk territory it had given to France, and part of czechoslovakia...and all of Austria...and half of Poland...and Denmark...and Belgium/Luxembourg...and the rest of France...


[08-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia agreed to split Poland in two


[08-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK and France thought that if they just let Germany take part of Czechoslovakia and all of Austria, Hitler would be happy and stop


[08-Nov-18 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUCEeC4f6ts&list=PLBDA2E52FB1EF80C9&index=37

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[08-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sweden and Norway were selling iron to Germany and knew if they ever stopped it'd kill them


[08-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy figured it was a good time to join in since Ethiopia was tasty etc.


[08-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't be stopped from grabbing up colonies if the real madman is your ally


[08-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
italy actually hurt germany more than it ever helped


[08-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah they asked for German help and wew


[08-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy nearly lost to GREECE of all places


[08-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then actually lost to the US after they set off north from North Africa


[08-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, Russia and Germany's alliance fell apart because both sides were fukking insane and needed oil


[08-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the midst of that madness, the US also came in thru northern France


[08-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Germany was fighting on three fronts without much oil left and without enuff men


[08-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and no international trade except with Sweden so RIP


[08-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And during all that, Hitler wanted the Jews eliminated


[08-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
at first they were deported


[08-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
after war broke out, they were made to work to death building stuff for the war


[08-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually they were just tossed in gas chambers or such to not bother with the hassle of slave labor too


[08-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
All in secret, allies found out as they pushed in


[08-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
when was the last time there was a sane despot like napolean


[08-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho they had an idea that something was up when aerial photos showed active train lines taking Jews to places and not taking them bakk


[08-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BugznGj6bU

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Mussolini invades greece
Mama mia, that's a spicy meatball. like for free iphone 5 pls gib sub
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9BugznGj6bU/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and there was a whole other mess with Japan, which allied with Germany for similar reasons to Italy, @Starlight Glimmer <3


[08-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's WWII


[08-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much the big colonial powers duked it out for the last time and got the whole world involved in some way


[08-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
japan was competent though


[08-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end, Germany was split in two like Poland was


[08-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Russia would hav it no other way


[08-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stalin Note


[08-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan was competent until they went after America for no reason


[08-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
while stalling fighting a few communists in China


[08-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could've had a huge, nice empire if they just solidified territorial gains and went after China


[08-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But noooo, gotta rape more women, piss off the most powerful country in the world, and lose everything


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then they get nuked and invent anime


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, countries saw opportunities to make gains in WWII


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine Axis victory anime


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How has that not been mentioned in althists


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the only ones pushing for those gains were crazy assholes who didn't know when to stop


[08-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so as soon as the mildly saner powers got their shit together and saw opportunity to stop them, it went tits up


[08-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it was meant to be a "we can keep hitting you, let us have oil" thing


[08-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not "We want Hawaii"


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still a really bad idea


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
what about "napoleon isn't defeated"


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's an alt-hist I'd like to see


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
not really sure why he was defeated beyond "hurr let's invade russia in winter"


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a good HoI4 mod about that


[08-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apres Moi Le Deluge


[08-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/915792633194819059/E66F2BBDC0CF62491690965BD825AA4C3A3A360C/


[08-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Map


[08-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Napoleon was defeated because he never really stopped


[08-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
couldn't just say "alright that's good enuff let's enjoy superfrance"


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
I'm still not sure why napoleon seems to be the last successful sane despot


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same story


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was a centrist


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
every successful despot in the 20th century has been insane


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least he said he was


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
keeping going even when it no longer makes sense


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
leading to inevitable loss of all your gains


[08-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was like "Whoa, both those royalists and Jacobins are crazy huh? Directory, I've got this"


[08-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also TIL for some reason when you have MacArthur run and win the 1952 election in this one HoI4 mod, the US goes fascist


[08-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, the guy had a nuke fetish but come on


[08-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also was very influential in Japan's very non-fascist constitution...


[08-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mention wanting to lay down a line of nuclear hellfire at the Yalu _one_ time and suddenly you're the bad guy.


[08-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I just watched the china video, it was very imformative


[08-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe they somehow mixed him up with McCarthy


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite it being a WWII game


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No definitely not


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and this was a cold war mod


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
some of this isn't serious


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds incredibly slapped together.


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can go fascist in 2000's Germany and search for Hitler in Argentina, then bring him back


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
in 2002


[08-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
COME ON OLD HITLER


[08-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE ARE GONNA PURGE GEORGE SOROS


[08-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the mod where when the Third Reich gets overthrown and as Argentina you can have Senor Hilter lead you


[08-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously the most developed mod, as in most extensive is probably the pony one


[08-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
ponyyyy


[08-Nov-18 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/415135-voters-turned-away-at-polling-site-in-detroit-due-to-missing-voting

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Report: Voters turned away at Detroit polling site due to missing ...
Voters were reportedly turned away at a polling site in Detroit early on Election Day due to missing voting machines.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/electiondayvotevoting_0501818getty_0.jpg


[08-Nov-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
"A local ABC station reported that the voters were not able to vote at a polling location set up at *Martin Luther King Jr. High School* shortly after the polls opened because ... The voting machines were later discovered locked inside a closet on the other side of the school that election workers reportedly did not have access to."


[08-Nov-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[08-Nov-18 06:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I did say they would do something in a black area. Never thought it would be something so blatantly stupid.


[08-Nov-18 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, voter suppression happens in the north too, the common thing is it targets minorities


[08-Nov-18 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voter registration exists as the first line of defense against minorities voting.


[08-Nov-18 06:14 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
voter registeration is stupid, if you are a legal citizen you should be able to vote


[08-Nov-18 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's too ingrained, sadly


[08-Nov-18 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
most states that try to reform it do automatic voter registration piggybakking on the motor voter law that tied registration to the DMV


[08-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only ND ever eliminated voter registration, bizarrely


[08-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
in my state you have to show your ID to vote


[08-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, until recently voter ID laws weren't controversial


[08-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they only show up in areas minorities start voting a lot...


[08-Nov-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I had to show my voter card but not my state issued ID


[08-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
state issued IDs are expensive


[08-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And poll taxes are illegal


[08-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
$30 or whatever for a tiny card


[08-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but states find a way to come up with some "free" BS you can do that...oh wait polling place closed it took you all night


[08-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
ID should be free


[08-Nov-18 06:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If they were cheap that would mean the poors could get them and vote.


[08-Nov-18 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/iHo06mh.png

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Wicked witch of the west.
https://i.imgur.com/iHo06mh.png


[08-Nov-18 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[08-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1060012170690416640

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Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter)
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Kansas is dead to me.
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[08-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/11/07/governors-race-may-be-subjected-to-recount/

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https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/11/07/governors-race-may-be-subjected-to-recount
Florida’s Governor, Senate, Ag Races May Be Subjected To Recount
After graciously conceding the governor's race to Republican Ron DeSantis, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum may have a second chance.
https://cbsmiami.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/florida-governor-election-opponents.jpg?w=1024


[08-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's 0.6% atm according to google


[08-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
needs to be within 0.5%


[08-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-now-the-youngest-woman-elected-to-congress.html

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29-year-old Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez makes history as the youngest...
"Never forget the hard work it took to get us here."
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/11/07/105558393-1541590532617gettyimages-1058489602.1910x1000.jpeg


[08-Nov-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/415569-nancy-pelosis-math-problem-in-a-speaker-vote

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Nancy Pelosi starts working on her math problem in Speaker vote
Nancy Pelosi has a puzzle to solve as she embarks on her quest to reclaim the Speaker’s gavel.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_110718gn2_lead.jpg


[08-Nov-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
"A dozen Democratic candidates who have been critical of the California Democrat won election to Congress on Tuesday night, while another 12 incumbents have vowed to oppose Pelosi’s bid to lead the conference."


[08-Nov-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
"That’s a problem for Pelosi, who can’t afford more than a dozen Democrats voting against her in a public floor vote for Speaker."


[08-Nov-18 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
we need someone new anyway


[08-Nov-18 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
is cortez a socialist? it's actually kind of hard to tell


[08-Nov-18 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-platform-on-the-issues-2018-6

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This is the platform that launched Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, won a shocking victory against Rep. Joe Crowley in the New York Democratic Party congressional primary on Tuesday night.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b33ec161ae6621d008b49ef-1136-568.jpg


[08-Nov-18 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
"Ocasio-Cortez believes there should be a Federal Jobs Guarantee, creating a "baseline quality for employments that guarantees a minimum $15 wage (pegged to inflation), full healthcare, and paid child and sick leave for all," according to her website."


[08-Nov-18 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
guaranteeing a job is socialist


[08-Nov-18 07:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it's a step in the right direction. The next step being somehow giving employees a voice in the workplace as a sort of assembly to balance against the demands of the C-Suite, whether this is to toss aside Anti-Union Laws or even re-regulating Co-Operatives to become a more competitive starting option vs traiditional buisiness practice.


[08-Nov-18 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need ballot initiatives


[08-Nov-18 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Historically, almost no working-class people get into gov't


[08-Nov-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
campaigning reform would be torn to pieces by the corporations


[08-Nov-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
so this will continue to be the case


[08-Nov-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and due to corporate influence, workers' rights are not popular to push


[08-Nov-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
to the point that SCOTUS likes to scuttle them when the law is challenged in any ways


[08-Nov-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ballot initiatives to change state law are basically the only way that we can giv workers rights at this point.


[08-Nov-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage being raised is one thing


[08-Nov-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but other things are needed.


[08-Nov-18 08:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, here's what you do: if everyone spent as much on politics as they did potato chips then the collective working class could outspend companies. So put aside those Doritos, join the IWW, pay your regular fees, join in with their organizing team, organize, get active, and get the organization to go. The same could likewise be said for the DSA. This way your money gets to go to non-corporate anti-capitalist bodies used for either the distribution of Mutual Aid, legal protection, and resources to advance a political message.


[08-Nov-18 08:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
You lack ground game


[08-Nov-18 08:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.iww.org


[08-Nov-18 08:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.dsausa.org

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Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) -
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[08-Nov-18 08:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get going


[08-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
this sounds like an advertisement paid for by Big Socialism


[08-Nov-18 08:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sitting around in an internet chatroom talking about ballot measures like they're the easiest thing to get going isn't going anywhere because it's not going to do anything. You need to build local initiative and networks in community organizing to not just identify the big picture issues but the local needs of the people or your neighbors. You don't get there by telling bronies online that you need ballot initiatives, because the fuck does that even mean? Go get your hands dirty, talk to real people, bring them under the banner of the movement with a mission and the organizational infrastructure to move resources and get things done. Attend meetings, speak to coworkers, organize, go to protests, talk to people at protests, network, trade cards, make a long term commitment, keep in touch, find out where to go next, make petitions, distribute petitions, build support, toss it into politics, campaign.


[08-Nov-18 08:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
You ain't getting this shit on your own self. You need others. This is the biggest and most fundamental trick in the political handbook. You organize with people and do shit. Real shit. Not set an objective and never define it and then never move on it.


[08-Nov-18 08:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Join the Big Boye and burn all company Unions to the ground.


[08-Nov-18 08:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Be the Angel of Peace, with a stick of dynamite in either hand.


[08-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/CjePkq6.jpg

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[08-Nov-18 08:49 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
not mine, but I like it enough to share this advice for peaceful protests:


[08-Nov-18 08:49 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
" When you’re out there tomorrow:

Stay hydrated and bring snacks. We don’t want anyone passing out.

Dress warm, and dress as sharp as you reasonably and comfortably can.

Stay peaceful. Even if the Proud Boys or other hate groups come out against you, do not engage, but – by all means – defend yourselves.

Know that some of us are with you in spirit, because we can’t be with you in body for a variety of reasons.

Keep in mind that many of the public servants you might encounter might wish they could join you but have jobs to do, legal restrictions to contend with, and families to support. Please treat them with the understanding and respect you would want in their position.

No matter what they say: You are not a mob. You are not rabble. You are hope. You are the torch of our democracy, burning in the darkness that threatens to consume everything we stand for.

Good luck out there. "


[08-Nov-18 08:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
made me feel less guilty that i wont be there. maybe i can still show up friday. I'm sure the mueller protests will be all weekend at least.


[08-Nov-18 08:51 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
goodnight everypony (again)


[08-Nov-18 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/meMzqgG.png

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[08-Nov-18 11:47 AM] Yuri#4154

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[08-Nov-18 12:09 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
https://youtu.be/USzKh6oiFCw just wondering what people think of this video, ~~don't scream oh gods I just want to hear opinions~~

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The Tumblr/SJW Art Style
I didn't touch the topic of forced religion, specifically forced Muslim beliefs and drawing characters in hijabs. I didn't touch it cause I don't wanna be bo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/USzKh6oiFCw/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-18 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/11/5/18055844/florida-amendment-9-vaping-offshore-drilling-midterm-election-results

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https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/11/5/18055844/florida-amendment-9-vaping-offshore-drilling-midterm-election-results
Florida passed this year’s weirdest ballot initiative: a ban on ...
The unlikely combination of drilling and vaping was bundled into one amendment.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/N3zGros422fH7p0wduUpiDMUcZY=/0x0:5184x2714/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13387667/GettyImages_486477989.jpg


[08-Nov-18 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently florida politicians combined a vaping bill and an off shore drilling bill into 1 hoping people would pick vaping thus also legalizing off shore oil drills. this backfired


[08-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/510082205570039808/FB_IMG_1541683453482.jpg

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[08-Nov-18 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/07/beto-orourke-2020-elections-iowa-new-hampshire-973419

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Beto’s consolation prize: Running for president
Democratic activists in Iowa and New Hampshire welcome the vanquished Texas candidate with open arms.
https://static.politico.com/7f/13/1d6d2d3b4c64b1f3a88944df016d/181107-beto-getty-773.jpg


[08-Nov-18 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
I'd vote for him


[08-Nov-18 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
then again, I'd vote for a bag of rocks over the orange


[08-Nov-18 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-judge-releases-group-juvenile-defendants-losing-election/story?id=59042447

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Texas judge releases group of juvenile defendants after losing ele...
The judge asked the kids whether they planned on killing anyone before, the Houston Chronicle reported.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/glenn-devlin-ht-jef-181107_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[08-Nov-18 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
sore loser


[08-Nov-18 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[08-Nov-18 06:01 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Oh those white people, always murdering

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[08-Nov-18 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.politifact.com/politifact/photos/ExtremistGraph1.jpg

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[08-Nov-18 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
It's true


[08-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Louder than Love#5467

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[08-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Arvid#8335
B-but... Antifa!!!


[08-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Then there’s this


[08-Nov-18 06:17 PM] Louder than Love#5467
But don’t mention that to anyone because you’ll be a lying racist


[08-Nov-18 06:18 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes that stat


[08-Nov-18 06:19 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Yeah, seems one has stayed well above the rest for a while now


[08-Nov-18 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
homicide ≠ terrorism


[08-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Nope, homicide means homicide


[08-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Nile#1441
I doubt he was even talking about terrorism


[08-Nov-18 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
the tweet was about terrorism


[08-Nov-18 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
so what's your point


[08-Nov-18 06:24 PM] Arvid#8335
hur dur look at how anti-PC I am


[08-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nile#1441
Brainlet


[08-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Louder than Love#5467
My point is, if someone wants to point fingers about how most recent mass shootings and even those in the past were done by whites, but wants to look over the fact that violent crimes, such as homicide and murder are led by blacks seconded by latino and hispanics and has stayed that way for many many years, and looks like many to come, but wants to keep saying all these whites, may not even be a Trump supporter, help their soul if they are, are the problem and keep making it worse and they’re racist if they think otherwise, and if you disagree then you probably want to have another holocaust. The main thing is, not an entire race is at fault for what one man, or a group of people did, there’s scum everywhere but if you try to make one look scummier then all you’re doing is making yourself look bad


[08-Nov-18 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
then that should have been your argument to start with


[08-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Louder than Love#5467
It was


[08-Nov-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
it was at best a vaguely implied subtext


[08-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Louder than Love#5467
It started vague when I said, “Oh those white people always murdering.” Then I just went into detail if that’s vague you’ve read something wrong


[08-Nov-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's hard to find any information at all on gun homicides excluding gang violence


[08-Nov-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
but that's a major confounding factor in black people committing more per capita than any other race


[08-Nov-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's also likely why latinos are as high on the graph as they are as well


[08-Nov-18 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
not sure about native americans, though.


[08-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Native Americans liv mostly in places with like 0 services or infrastructure


[08-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Arvid#8335
Black communities have higher crime rates because they generally also have more poverty


[08-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
"the res" is a place where there are no jobs, no hope, no future


[08-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Louder than Love#5467
I do believe that graph is showing homicide rates by race as a whole not with guns necessarily


[08-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Why aren't Middle Eastern people on this graph


[08-Nov-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, true, but it's mostly guns


[08-Nov-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Nov-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
68%


[08-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it's a remote place with usually no natural resources (as the US gov't gave all the places with natural resources to white settlers) far from any major cities and often with the more valuable land bought up by the gov't piecemeal over time.


[08-Nov-18 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody wants to liv on a reservation.


[08-Nov-18 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They often hav more abandoned vehicles than wildlife or trees.


[08-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Not sure why there’s no Mid easterners, I could find one though


[08-Nov-18 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, latinos are great fodder for gangs


[08-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
because often the first generation or so of illegal immegrants doesn't speak the main language of the country, can barely stay employed, and avoids many gov't services for fear of being found out and deported


[08-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
even the ones that came over legally may face hurdles, including expiring visas or difficulty finding reliable work due to racism


[08-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for blakks, they face a different problem where they speak the language and can seek gov't services, but the local gov't is mostly run by older racist whites who will tend to barely giv them any.


[08-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South was in complete revolt when civil rights law was first enforced; a lot of that has died down, but not all of it.


[08-Nov-18 06:47 PM] Arvid#8335
B-but, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!!! We should arm everyone, public schools, churches, and even fucking daycares obvs


[08-Nov-18 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv every blakk man a gun, see how the south feels about gun control.


[08-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
After all, if that logic holds up, they would stop the evil ones among them due to outnumbering.


[08-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Nile#1441
I don’t live in an area with black families


[08-Nov-18 06:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"he had a gun"


[08-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
gonna be hard to take away tons of American guns


[08-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something I touched on yesterday I think: in regards to the whole deal where voters seem to hav a distaste for dems despite liking their policies, even in some red states, the problem isn't just racism or the Dems fighting it, it's the fact the Dems are trying to do it top-down


[08-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
especially when America deals in so much of them


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South HATES the idea of the federal gov't coming in and telling them what to do


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if it tells them to follow the law and stop being assholes


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nile#1441
Not even hardcore socialists and ancoms I talk to want guns to be outright banned (not saying that’s anyone’s position here)


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gun control has shifted recently.


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Multiple Republicans went against the NRA to pass gun control and weren't harmed in the election.


[08-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Louder than Love#5467
A gun ban would be retarded and wouldn’t work


[08-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
gun control doesn't work don't @ me


[08-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Louder than Love#5467
The law abiding citizens turn in their guns the criminals keep them


[08-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, gun crimes do get lowered if it's harder to get a gun to commit them with.


[08-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
People don't usually get a gun once and use it months or years later in crime


[08-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is the case for most tools to commit a crime


[08-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are purchased very soon before the crime is to occur.


[08-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you impede purchase of the tools, you can delay, prevent, or reduce the severity of the crime.


[08-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I'd rather not rely on the police to come save my ass when I'm being shot at


[08-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nile#1441
Easy to say crime will be low with less guns in countries with both less people and less guns to begin with


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is very unlikely you'd be able to save your own ass by shooting


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
especially since most of the time criminals bring guns as intimidation tools


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and only shoot when they believe you're a threat


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Very unlikely?


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[08-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Louder than Love#5467
You have a better chance if you’re armed, you don’t have to wait around for the cops


[08-Nov-18 06:54 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
source pls


[08-Nov-18 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think anyone's done an experimental setup to test it


[08-Nov-18 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The logic here is that you would hav to hav the weapon on you, hav the criminal in sight and range of the weapon, not hav already been severely wounded, and hav the criminal shooting at you to begin with (why would he if you are unarmed?)


[08-Nov-18 06:56 PM] Nile#1441
I’ve seen plenty of clips of people being gunned down indiscriminately who were unarmed


[08-Nov-18 06:56 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Exactly


[08-Nov-18 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Usually the best strategy to save yourself is to run away, out of range or behind cover from the weapon.


[08-Nov-18 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you are immediately gunned down...you aren't going to be able to do *anything*


[08-Nov-18 06:57 PM] Louder than Love#5467
I’d rather die fighting then cowering away


[08-Nov-18 06:57 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Yeah, you probably did already run away if you weren't one of the first few victims


[08-Nov-18 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the problem with arming more people so that they can do that is that many will use the gun when it was completely unnecessary, not just when they were being shot at


[08-Nov-18 06:58 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It _would_ be easier to just have cops die for me


[08-Nov-18 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You end up with a lot of dead blakk boys who got a little too close, and not very many dead criminals that were shooting the wrong guy.


[08-Nov-18 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just easier, it's more sane for society's sake.


[08-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of one of my favorite articles that got people super upset


[08-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Nile#1441
Maybe shouldn’t get too close or do stupid shit towards people with a weapon


[08-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You realize that arming teachers will lead to dead black students, right?"


[08-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Seems very logical


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Getting close and doing stupid shit shouldn't be punished by death.


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
There might be a low probability of someone stopping the shooter if they have a weapon but it's still possible


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nile#1441
I mean it’d result in dead white boys as well


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The same logic goes for robberies


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If neither side has a gun


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
you get robbed


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hav a gun, the robber dies


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Author was black and it was like "Only a matter of time before Becky gets super scared at breaking up a fight  9 year old Tyrone is involved in as he walks towards her and she shoots him ten times"


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
if the robber has a gun, you die


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
if both of you hav a gun, someone dies


[08-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
you losing a $500 item is a much smaller issue than someone dying


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Louder than Love#5467
But why let it happen in the first place


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if that someone is the robber.


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Nile#1441
I mean if I’m being robbed and someone has to die for it, that’s their fault


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter whose fault it is.


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
things are replacable


[08-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
What matters is the outcome.


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Louder than Love#5467
It’s their choice to walk up and rob someone


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police can be set loose to find the robber. Most robbers that rob repeatedly are eventually caught.


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Louder than Love#5467
They should know the consequences


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does not matter whose choice it is.


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I don't necessarily agree with gun control because unarming the people doesn't lead to good outcomes in the future


[08-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
see: history


[08-Nov-18 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is at this point impossible for the common citizenry to fight, in a war, the gov't's army


[08-Nov-18 07:03 PM] Nile#1441
Government forces would destroy you tbh


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Assuming the military stays together in a civil war


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The technology and scale of armies has simply reached an extremely high level.


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Govt can just turn off the internet


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You *must* get military grade sources for weapons and such to fight a civil war.


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Nile#1441
When Civil War 2.0 starts, we need a British reconquest


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Nile#1441
That’d be dope


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Louder than Love#5467
No


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the saying


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Louder than Love#5467
UKgay


[08-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, historically speaking


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are six meals away from overthrowing the government or something like that?


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan at one point had an extreme abundance of weapons


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
not like guns, but halberds, mostly (arquebuses were wonk)


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Superior Nippon steel


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This resulted in constant civil war as various warlords rose up with peasant armies


[08-Nov-18 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
the countryside was constantly being ravaged


[08-Nov-18 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
eventually a minor coalition managed to secure some actual peace for a while


[08-Nov-18 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they banned private ownership of weapons among the peasantry


[08-Nov-18 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan did quite fine after that.


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Then they got nuked for trying to be a big strong empire


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Nile#1441
Oof


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Louder than Love#5467
Two wasn’t enough


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
How would you propose gun control federally in a large country


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Louder than Love#5467
We still have anime


[08-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
and actually get support


[08-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
🤔


[08-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
We already hav some amount of gun control


[08-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Especially in a pro-gun country like the U.S.A


[08-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Nile#1441
Isn’t there like, as many guns as there are people in the US


[08-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the biggest things is wait times


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
making people wait means people are less likely to buy a gun for an impulse to kill themselves or others


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And we hav that in most states now


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Louder than Love#5467
If people are gonna kill themselves they have other means


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
How does that stop people from other states bringing in their guns when they move in


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nile#1441
Yet people still say you can just buy a gun in 5 minutes


[08-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
How hard killing yourself is matters.


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
People tend to kill themselves on an impulse, putting up minor barriers can stop them.


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just a day of thinking on it and they often don't do it.


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
How does that stop illegal gun sales


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
🤔


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The main way to stop illegal sales is to make the legal sales preferable.


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
(for any product)


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nile#1441
You’ll never fully stop illegal trade


[08-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
But if you have to wait, it's not preferable


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
But in order to prefer illegal sales, they must be easy, not just immediate


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nile#1441
If people can still buy ivory, you’ll still be able to get a gun


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if legal sales are more convenient, like you can just go in a gun store and get a tikket for a gun you'll get the next day


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
then illegal sales are going to struggle to get the customers to support them.


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
What about sealing up the gun show loophole


[08-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nile#1441
“”””””loophole”””””””


[08-Nov-18 07:12 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:^)


[08-Nov-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That exemption is IMO rather stupid


[08-Nov-18 07:13 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
If you can just go to a gun show you can bypass wait times


[08-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well as bakkground chekks


[08-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Because Mr. unlicensed seller is there to give you a gun


[08-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think all gun sellers should face the same restrictions


[08-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, get your license to sell and then do bakkground chekks and say "come by my pickup in the parking lot tomorrow"


[08-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
So how do we make public places more secure from shooters


[08-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
And how do we create less shooters


[08-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
If gun control measures don't stop these people from acquiring a gun somehow


[08-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I think it has something to do with our culture


[08-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
and how we treat mass shooters


[08-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Currently in the media, we glorify mass shooters


[08-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that's overstated


[08-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many _really_ happen because "I wanna be famous"


[08-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Louder than Love#5467
How are we to know when the most notable, thanks to the media, are dead


[08-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Well, we also blame it on mental health


[08-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It seems like a people problem


[08-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the only solution would be to gag order the media.


[08-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Creating less shooters means making it hard for them to get decent weapons by limiting the sale of semi-auto weapons (especially rifles) and improving the bakkground chekk system (Florida recently did this) while also dealing more with depressed individuals *and reducing the inequality that often causes it*.


[08-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, pretty much, no letting average joe buy an AR-15 and hey maybe we should do something about how average joe is so low on the social ladder he feels the need to shoot up the place.


[08-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[08-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
over the last 6 years


[08-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
there has been a 50% increase in children coming to hospitals with mental health crises


[08-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
With a greater increase among minority children.


[08-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
When those kids grow up, they're gonna snap and shoot up the place.


[08-Nov-18 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how taking the lead out of stuff led to a massive decrease in overall crime rates? We need to take care of our damn kids.


[08-Nov-18 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, that may mean there's a few thousand more "welfare queens", oh well


[08-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The salary of a few CEOs could do wonders invested in the community properly for reducing economic problems.


[08-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Might also help if we stop imprisoning people the moment they get involved with drugs and thereby ruin their life more than the drugs do...


[08-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for the culture


[08-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's not just that the media givs them infamy


[08-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the media also perpetuates guns as this fetishized thing where you can liv out your badass fantasy


[08-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
not everyone who has this badass fantasy of gun ownership just wants to protect the innocent


[08-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
some of them also want to kill who they believe deserve it.


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That is last on the list IMO


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The previous stuff you mentioned will have more impact


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but it's quite funny because people bring up culture


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and expect that we could just make the media shut up and it'd be alright


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Raising our kids right and not in poverty will have more of an impact than screeching over GTA


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I do think it would definitely would make more sense if I couldn't go into a gun store and buy ten ARs


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
fact of the matter is, the very culture that embraces gun ownership leads to wanting to shoot up your local school


[08-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok, we could turn into Australia tomorrow with the media


[08-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still would be shootings.


[08-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, sidenote


[08-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
you should hav to hav proof you can store your guns where your kids can't get into them


[08-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause loooooots of kids die from getting into the damn guns


[08-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we have someone other than the NRA teach kids about gun safety please


[08-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It would be interesting to see it as a college class


[08-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
seeing as college students are typically the audience that can legally own a gun


[08-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
but no gun on campus grr


[08-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
One hilarious sidenote


[08-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party platform often calls for having guns in schools to defend against shooters etc.


[08-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the Republican convention always says no guns allowed in.


[08-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
For safety reasons.


[08-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Nile#1441
Perhaps it’s the convention hall’s rule?


[08-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It'd probably be better to have a toy gun in a gun safety class


[08-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
but people would have to apply toy gun safety to real gun


[08-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
and not be fools who aim it anywhere except the ground


[08-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Because even in a gun store you can be shot by an "unloaded" gun


[08-Nov-18 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was not the hall's rule.


[08-Nov-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's mostly a Secret Service thing.


[08-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Leads to some lovely hypocrisy, as later on, Pence actually attended an *NRA* covention...where guns weren't allowed to be brought for safety reasons.


[08-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wired.com/story/the-house-science-committee-may-soon-become-pro-science/

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[08-Nov-18 08:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
High hopes.


[08-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAbab8aP4_A

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[08-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dw, call a fascist a fascist and don't worry quite as much about breaking the rules.
Of course, the rules are going to need serious rebuilding later on...


[08-Nov-18 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie
Republicans govern without shame;
Democrats shame without governing.


[08-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nile#1441
Which would you prefer


[08-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well I would generally prefer not being discriminated against and being able to find employment and you know, not dying just because I can't afford treatment for a condition.


[08-Nov-18 09:57 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I just want a third option so gerrymandering hell can begin


[08-Nov-18 09:59 PM] Nile#1441
What is there to discriminate you on


[08-Nov-18 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
[lakk of] religion and sexual orientation (in multiple ways), mostly


[08-Nov-18 10:03 PM] Nile#1441
Gay


[08-Nov-18 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA
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[08-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/08/mob-tucker-carlsons-home-antifa-break-door-chant-fox-host/1927868002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/08/mob-tucker-carlsons-home-antifa-break-door-chant-fox-host/1927868002
Antifa protesters chant outside Fox's Tucker Carlson's home, break...
The anti-fascists group chanted "Tucker Carlson, we will fight." outside of Tucker's D.C. home. Carlson's wife was home alone and called police.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/11/08/USAT/35c878e3-ff0d-4ff2-94c9-21cd56113f91-Tucker_Carlson.JPG?crop=5759,3224,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[08-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
"Tucker Carlson, we will fight. We know where you sleep at night"


[08-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
“Here’s the problem, I have four children,” he told Fox. “I never thought twice about leaving them home alone, but this is the reaction because this group doesn’t like my TV show.”


[08-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nile#1441
Chanting is one thing, damaging property is another


[08-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the time liberals went and stole a bunch of tea from merchant ships as a form of protest? Absolutely disgusting, that.


[08-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nile#1441
As an Anglo I unironically think that


[08-Nov-18 10:27 PM] DevField#5162
All of that tea wasted


[08-Nov-18 10:27 PM] DevField#5162
very disgusting


[08-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nile#1441
1776 was a mistake


[08-Nov-18 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Gq0ZHgKT2tc

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The Alt-Right Playbook: Mainstreaming
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gq0ZHgKT2tc/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nile#1441
How many of these are you going to post


[08-Nov-18 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what did i miss?


[08-Nov-18 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Ui-ArJRqEvU

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https://youtu.be/Ui-ArJRqEvU
The Alt-Right Playbook: The Ship of Theseus
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[08-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
are these videos describing how the alt-right does things or how to fight them


[08-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly the former


[08-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's very difficult to fight them because their entire strategy is to be extremely dirty and undercutting


[08-Nov-18 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are goalpost movers of the worst kind


[08-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They use much more than that


[08-Nov-18 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gerrymandering, court stuffing, government shutdowns, bill ramming, and even rmoe thna that


[08-Nov-18 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
investigation obstructions


[08-Nov-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ship of theseus argument I've seen on one of I think Sargon's vids


[08-Nov-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was about how Blizzard was "silencing the alt-right"


[08-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Blizzard actually did is ban someone for toxicity for leaving the Overwatch match if they weren't able to select their preferred hero because it was already taken.


[08-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
That someone happened to be part of the alt-right.


[08-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Alt right wants freedom of speech to apply to private individuals


[08-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is absurdity


[08-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you get banned from every bar in the neighborhood for exposing yourself while drunk it doesn't mean that there's a conspiracy


[08-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it doesn't want that


[08-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just that every bar doesn't want people with their dick out


[08-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That argument isn't its goal, it's just a tool


[08-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
That argument is an attempt to turn around liberal ideals on liberals to sow confusion and try to prevent their disruption (while doing the same disruption to them)


[08-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that the alt-right says so and so must be kept out of social media, sues them, etc.


[08-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
then when those tactics come to them, they say that doing those things is bad.


[08-Nov-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's that same "you go high, we go low" idea


[08-Nov-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans obstruct pikking a justice, then call Democrats bad when they try to do the same


[08-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna be awkward when Dems are back in power and pick Garland again


[08-Nov-18 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit, second person I'd pick after him would be Obama


[08-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
I seriously hope that pelosi doesn't become speaker again


[08-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
she's useless


[08-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people are fighting it


[08-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
I linked an article about it


[08-Nov-18 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/0dBJIkp7qIg

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The Alt-Right Playbook: The Death of a Euphemism
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0dBJIkp7qIg/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-18 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
That's all of them


[08-Nov-18 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
she can only afford to lose about a dozen democrats, and she has 12 incumbents opposing her and another 12 coming in who are also critical of her


[08-Nov-18 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/11/08/ex-congressman-texas-blamed-arrest-deep-state-conspiracy-gets-10-years-fraud

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/11/08/ex-congressman-texas-blamed-arrest-deep-state-conspiracy-gets-10-years-fraud
Ex-congressman from Texas who blamed his arrest on 'deep state' co...
A former congressman from Texas was sentenced Wednesday to 10 years in prison after he was found guilty of orchestrating a plot to defraud...
https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1541697942-Former-Congressman-Trial.jpg?w=1200&h=630&format=jpg&crop=faces&fit=crop


[08-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/415569-nancy-pelosis-math-problem-in-a-speaker-vote

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/415569-nancy-pelosis-math-problem-in-a-speaker-vote
Nancy Pelosi starts working on her math problem in Speaker vote
Nancy Pelosi has a puzzle to solve as she embarks on her quest to reclaim the Speaker’s gavel.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_110718gn2_lead.jpg


[08-Nov-18 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please pick soemone else


[08-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might as well pick Ocasio-Cortez


[08-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the worst that could happen


[08-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
she's kinda borderline socialist


[08-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-platform-on-the-issues-2018-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-platform-on-the-issues-2018-6
This is the platform that launched Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 29-...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, won a shocking victory against Rep. Joe Crowley in the New York Democratic Party congressional primary on Tuesday night.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b33ec161ae6621d008b49ef-1136-568.jpg


[08-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
>Ocasio-Cortez believes there should be a Federal Jobs Guarantee, creating a "baseline quality for employments that guarantees a minimum $15 wage"


[08-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
it would be practically impossible to guarantee everyone a job


[08-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
unless you forced companies to take employees they don't want or need


[08-Nov-18 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you coudl create government run jobs


[08-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If only we had something like say, infrastructure that needed repairing


[08-Nov-18 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like that


[08-Nov-18 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"i need a job" "done! grab a tool kit you;re on bridge repair"


[08-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I interpret "guarantees $15 wage" to those who already have jobs


[08-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not sure what exactly she meant


[08-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Universal jobs guarantee


[08-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
might as well just have UBI at that point


[08-Nov-18 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
no socialism necessary


[08-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
just higher taxes


[08-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
hell, with the amount of waste we have, we could repurpose a lot of it into a UBI and get more out of it


[08-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I think what she wants is a little lofty in ambition but it's not inherently bad


[09-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
why does nobody want to lower college tuition


[09-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
smh fam


[09-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
all these old doods are probably rich or got to pay for college when it was cheap


[09-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
hopefully we get more politicians in the future who realize how stupid tuition has got


[09-Nov-18 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I do


[09-Nov-18 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to lower college tuition


[09-Nov-18 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trhe cost of books that are getting progressively worth less thna their pricing


[09-Nov-18 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
how do you propose to lower it


[09-Nov-18 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
do you even know what colleges put on their books?


[09-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The Justice Department also argues there is no right to “a climate system capable of sustaining human life.”"


[09-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-lawsuit-rally/children-activists-rally-in-support-of-climate-change-lawsuit-idUSKCN1N401P

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-lawsuit-rally/children-activists-rally-in-support-of-climate-change-lawsuit-idUSKCN1N401P
Children, activists rally in support of climate change lawsuit
Activists rallied in Oregon and other states on Monday in support of young plain...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources_v2/images/rcom-default.png


[09-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except you know


[09-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 14th amendment


[09-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
which clearly says you can't deprive people of life without due process...


[09-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Arvid#8335
@Crow Companies already often hire few people so they don't have to pay as much


[09-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when an amendment's anti-lynching text is necessary in order to deal with corporate-controlled gov't insanity


[09-Nov-18 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has gotten very out of hand.


[09-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Arvid#8335
Walmart for example often will have very few people actually working at the cash registers, and just make their customers wait longer so they can pay their employees less.


[09-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're going to not hav cashiers soon


[09-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the endgame for supply-side economics


[09-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich megabarons that don't even need to employ any people


[09-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the actual employees are doing artsy shit that AI can't yet do


[09-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
which isn't where the money is, so they can't afford healthcare


[09-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, a sane gov't pays for healthcare by taxing megabarons...


[09-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Arvid#8335
Big corporations can absolutely pay their employees a 15 dollar wage, but they don't, their goal at the end of the day is to earn a profit.


[09-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Nixon went to china and gave it our jobs.


[09-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because in supply-side economics, you don't hav the wealthy consumer base to make the end price of an item somewhat irrelevant


[09-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you need to drive down cost of the item to produce to sell at a very low price all the poor masses can afford


[09-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is great and all except then it means not employing them


[09-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
because there are cheapers way to produce things than to employ them.


[09-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Demand-side economics worked for a reason.


[09-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there is demand, supply will create itself if it is possible to.


[09-Nov-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there is supply...there is supply, demand will not always rise to meet supply.


[09-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with demand propped up, the supply side can relax and support demand by employment.


[09-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But with supply propped up...buying cheaper groceries doesn't really giv people that much more money.


[09-Nov-18 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so how do thye make profit when no one can afford to buy anything becauseno one has a job?


[09-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
By driving costs lower and lower and lower.


[09-Nov-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is what is going on.


[09-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The endgame is to only employ a CEO, a board of directors, and robots.


[09-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically a hellscape of robots in empty stores where no oen can afford anything because no oen has a wage?


[09-Nov-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Nov-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the endgame of Reagonomics


[09-Nov-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's jsut unsustanable


[09-Nov-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wealthy elite who hav plugged all the holes things could trikkle down from.


[09-Nov-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Nov-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think American life expectancy has gone down slightly recently?


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite new innovations in healthcare


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite us producing way more food than we need.


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inequality and poverty are real problems in America right now.


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anti-vaxxers, decreased healthcare coverage, increase in food prices, low employment leadign to starvation


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans want it to stay that way.


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anti-vaxxers hav had very small impacts.


[09-Nov-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Food prices hav been nearly stagnant.


[09-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But labor force participation is at an all-time low


[09-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They tout "low unemployment", but the "unemployment" number doesn't count people who hav given up on getting a job.


[09-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
As many millennial men hav.


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m one of those few that almost gave up until gettign my ged yeilded a pell grant


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
having a degree is no guarantee of getting a job.


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, I might be working at a pot shop soon.


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thatls the worst feeling


[09-Nov-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
My internship was fun


[09-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they didn't feel like hiring anyone when I finished it


[09-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and no company wants to hire anyone without 2+ years of experience so.


[09-Nov-18 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m gettign an hvac degree and it may nto evne go anywhere


[09-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP me


[09-Nov-18 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a Computer Science degree and a Software Engineering degree, with a minor in Math and a minor in Physics.


[09-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the option for my degree was Electronic Control Systems


[09-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically


[09-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am the guy you would want for a really efficient physics engine, potentially even ran on microcontrollers


[09-Nov-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[09-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a tiny bit of extra training, I could be an electrician


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav the expertise, altho not *exactly* the right credentials, to be a web developer


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well atleast my degree wont cone with debt... for now


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory I could go into almost any kind of programming or hardware design necessary


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I avoided debt


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pell grant woo


[09-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So right now I'm living off of built up income


[09-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But employment is...rokky.


[09-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I havn't given up, I would be counted as unemployed.


[09-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's at a point where I may be doing years of manual labor without health insurance


[09-Nov-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also live in a right to work state so i coudl get hired for a job and thne thye coudl fire me a day later for no fuckignr eason


[09-Nov-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause every employer I talk to can find some guy who's over 40 and has many years of work experience to do their one open programming job.


[09-Nov-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I'm in a right to work state too.


[09-Nov-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's maddening


[09-Nov-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
My stepdad works for a guy who doesn't giv W-2s to his employees


[09-Nov-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
which screws them over taxwise


[09-Nov-18 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
which then means that my parents are stukk being poor (my mom is, perhaps not anymore due to LASIK and contacts, but used to be, legally blind, and so cannot do a whole lot of things despite being relatively smart and capable)


[09-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hilariously, it has come to a point where


[09-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
she votes Democrat every election


[09-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho blakk people seem to make her skin crawl.


[09-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, she'd be down with a little racism and saying "fukk u" to the homeless


[09-Nov-18 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she is well aware what Republicans are doing to the economy and she thinks they've gone too far with their racism.


[09-Nov-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah there's a line


[09-Nov-18 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her idea of racism would be like you don't hav to bake a cake for a blakk wedding, but then she sees all these efforts to strip rights away and goes "what the fukk"


[09-Nov-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eht hat's not too bad


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's annoying because she continually justifies not liking ____ because it it's what blakk people like or it contains blakk people in it


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
(usually music, movies, that sort of thing)


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile thye want to kill social security and food benefits which woudl put my parents on the street


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, she's not fond of that either


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's kind of funny cause like


[09-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
She buys into that welfare queen idea


[09-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but she also thinks destroying welfare to stop them is a bad idea


[09-Nov-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welfare leeches were mroe a thing wya back when it started and the states didnt have connected welfare


[09-Nov-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people would drive to different states and sign up for welfare in eahc of them and go untilt hye got caught


[09-Nov-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a lot fuckin harder to do nowadays


[09-Nov-18 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and whiel there may possibly be soem leeches int he system they likely arent anywhere near numerous enough to be as big a problem as republicans claim they are


[09-Nov-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah destroyign welfare to get rid of very few leeches in the system would be liek blowing up a city to get rid of a cockroach


[09-Nov-18 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it is amazing how many typos you manage to have even after editing your lines


[09-Nov-18 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Nile#1441
Ye


[09-Nov-18 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Cauliflower is republican broccoli


[09-Nov-18 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
oof


[09-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
🤔


[09-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
What century do I have to be in for people to vote for people instead of parties


[09-Nov-18 01:31 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Is there some future where the robots have taken over and we need to vote in humans


[09-Nov-18 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would the robots make better leaders?


[09-Nov-18 01:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Now is when someone would start talking about AI.


[09-Nov-18 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Orion Starshade Jokes on you, but party has more-or-less always been a major player, at least in American politics. Early on perhaps there would have been more voting for the person, but that's when people declared their voted publically and were bribed with gin.


[09-Nov-18 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i try to vote for person over party, though most candidates i find myself agreeing with are democrat


[09-Nov-18 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
publicly*


[09-Nov-18 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if you reneged on any deals to vote for someone then you probably got in a fist-fight.


[09-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Family sometimes says "want to live like a Republican but vote Democrat"


[09-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't think they realize what Republicans end up doing to economies.


[09-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want people to not vote party


[09-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to make party as little a part of the system as possible


[09-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to make the ballot not show it, you hav to disrupt efforts to giv any party official support...


[09-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in the 19th century, politicians elected by corrupt party machines decided to enshrine [the two] parties in the law


[09-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
With special treatment of parties to reinforce them, they are a huge part of the system


[09-Nov-18 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/415685-oregon-town-elects-18-year-old-as-mayor

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Oregon town elects 18-year-old as mayor
A small Oregon town elected an 18-year-old as mayor after he beat out two candidates in Tuesday's election, according to local reports.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/electiondayvotevoting_0501818getty.jpg


[09-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/415837-teacher-says-she-discovered-ballot-box-left-behind-at-florida

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Teacher says she discovered ballot box left behind at Florida poll...
A Florida teacher says she discovered a locked ballot box that was left behind at a polling site in Miramar.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/black_voting_georgia_2.jpg


[09-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that "provisional" ballots for those who don't show proper ID at the time are intended to not be counted at all.


[09-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way even if they would later decide that blakky blakk vote counts, it doesn't matter because "what ballots?"


[09-Nov-18 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/kxYcpA6.jpg

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[09-Nov-18 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
friendly fire?


[09-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/12035018/Revealed-How-Britons-welcomed-black-soldiers-during-WWII-and-fought-alongside-them-against-racist-GIs.html

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Revealed: How Britons welcomed black soldiers during WWII, and fou...
Black American GIs billeted in the UK during WWII found warm welcome from   British families, in contrast to vicious racist abuse meted out by their   fellow countrymen
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03518/Gi-soilders02_3518896k.jpg


[09-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Official army policy was not to segregate in Britain AFAIK


[09-Nov-18 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltVtnCzg9xw

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[09-Nov-18 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://youtu.be/ltVtnCzg9xw?t=1525

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[09-Nov-18 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/politics/chris-christie-pam-bondi-trump-attorney-general/index.html

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Trump considering Christie, Bondi, Acosta for attorney general
President Donald Trump is considering former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi to replace fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions, sources familiar with the matter said.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171029114212-02-chris-christie-1029-super-tease.jpg


[09-Nov-18 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[09-Nov-18 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
chris christie???


[09-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
fatboi


[09-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Louder than Love#5467
He looks like he spotted an all you can eat buffet


[09-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286

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[09-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
did someone say chris christie?


[09-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Louder than Love#5467
He can’t decide between chicken breast and chicken tenders


[09-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Make Wonka Great Again


[09-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article221390595.html

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Appeals court puts youth climate change lawsuit on hold
A lawsuit by a group of young Americans against the U.S. government for being slow to slow climate change is on hold again, after a federal appeals court granted the Trump administration's motion for a temporary stay.
https://www.mcclatchy-wires.com/incoming/1nqtya/picture221394730/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/Youths_Sue_Climate_Change_47128.jpg


[09-Nov-18 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals gave the parties 15 days to respond to the administrations petition for a writ of mandamus -- a rarely used judicial appeal that asks a higher court to overrule a lower one before the conclusion of a case.


[09-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
seriously, is there no end to the obscure and never-used processes used to delay and dismiss legal proceedings?


[09-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Mikey#7286
the GOP can kiss my ass


[09-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck you, Chris [Christie]"- Current US president, November 9, 2016


[09-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[09-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC it was because he touched him and Trump's a mild germophobe


[09-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Correct, @Crow


[09-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Mikey#7286
wait, Trump really said that?


[09-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nra-opens-social-media-war-doctors-over-firearms-n934056

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'Stay in your lane,' NRA tells doctors who want to reduce gun deaths
Gun deaths rose in 2015 after falling in earlier years, CDC says in a new report.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2638856/181108-california-thousand-oaks-shooting-se-1125a_a6f60f75258a209c77e09f9dae1965b0.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[09-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
On Wednesday, the NRA took issue with the ACP, which represents more than 150,000 internal medicine specialists. “Someone should tell self-important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane,” the group tweeted.


[09-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
“We are not anti-gun; we are anti-bullet holes in our patients,” retorted emergency medicine specialist Dr. Esther Choo of Oregon Health & Science University in a tweet Thursday morning.


[09-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
lel


[09-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said many times


[09-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Republican platform is that it's their way or the highway


[09-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Mikey#7286
did Trump actually say "fuck you chris christie"?


[09-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you for objective, factual reasons, say their policy is not okay


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
they tell you to get stuffed and accept their crazy worldview.


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude it's Trump


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has no filter


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is an angry old man


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[09-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is probably taking all his energy now to not say the N word.


[09-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
no one takes his chicken nuggers and gets away with it


[09-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://pics.me.me/dont-ever-take-someones-chimken-nuggers-u-took-my-chiken-27435054.png

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[09-Nov-18 04:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump going to the first president to drop a bomb with a single letter on it in some time.


[09-Nov-18 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie The context was something like "Oh I think it will work out good tonight Don" and Christie patted him on the back


[09-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[09-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the CDC until very recently wasn't allowed to study gun violence by congress for this very reason


[09-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article221192920.html

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Key races in California Assembly, Senate remain tight
Democrats' total dominance of the state Legislature likely comes down to a single Senate seat, where the race is too close to call in early returns.
https://www.mcclatchy-wires.com/incoming/uz8qyi/picture221076835/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/Election_2018_California_Legislature_Critical_Race_88270.jpg


[09-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
california's state legislature is on the very razor's edge of becoming a democrat supermajority


[09-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
Supporters of Caballero, a former Salinas mayor, had to regroup on Election Day after someone broke into her campaign headquarters in Merced and took cellphones and computers used to contact voters, along with 10,000 pieces of campaign literature that volunteers were to hang on doorknobs.


[09-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
the democrat candidate had her headquarters ransacked


[09-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
they ignored more valuable targets of theft for everything voting related


[09-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Ko1RCIh.mp4

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[09-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
"graphical representation of a government job"


[09-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/RhH1kGH.jpg

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[09-Nov-18 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ATvbzkb.jpg

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[09-Nov-18 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fake, Crow


[09-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Louder than Love#5467
I think the point of it is to be funny not true


[09-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah @Nebbie it's the same exact image in monochrome and an edited key


[09-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/VEQk8gi

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[09-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Louder than Love#5467
I think I’ll have a slice of liver with some mushrooms


[09-Nov-18 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scott-walker-narrowly-loses-wisconsin-governors-race-and-he-cant-ask-for-a-recount-because-of-a-law-he-put-in-place/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0g&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_c

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Scott Walker narrowly loses Wisconsin governor's race – and he c...
If a candidate in Wisconsin is losing by less than 1 percent, they can ask for a recount – but Walker lost by 1.2 percent
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/11/07/9c3df700-a788-40ee-aea4-1bf30986e6d8/thumbnail/1200x630/44dc44fd2e7e649278a9aa3532d0c631/gettyimages-462525632.jpg


[09-Nov-18 02:02 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://twitter.com/hashtag/protectmueller

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News about #protectmueller on Twitter
40m ago @asherhuey tweeted: "Look at these photos! #ProtectMueller pr.." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
Twitter


[09-Nov-18 02:02 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://twitter.com/MassAGO/status/1060675930081898497

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Maura Healey (@MassAGO)
https://twitter.com/MassAGO/status/1060675930081898497
Acting AG Whitaker's hostility to the Special Counsel’s investigation disqualifies him from overseeing Robert Mueller. We are leading 18 state attorneys general in calling on Whitaker to recuse himself immediately. #ProtectMueller
Retweets
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Twitter


[09-Nov-18 02:03 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
two more pages of signatures in the link


[09-Nov-18 02:10 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpAs_c0oVio&t=1m13s

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MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpAs_c0oVio&t=1m13s
Sensing Donald Trump Threat, Widespread Protests Call To #ProtectM...
Rachel Maddow reports on protests in cities large and small across the United States calling for Donald Trump's hand-picked acting attorney general to recuse...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PpAs_c0oVio/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Nov-18 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Cute


[09-Nov-18 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
But what did it do? Fuck all


[09-Nov-18 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
It was only a single article on my online newsfeed and got like five minutes of TV coverage


[09-Nov-18 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I echo Nebbie's sentiment:
If young people like myself spent as much time voting as we did protesting, the Republicans would not be in power


[09-Nov-18 02:16 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
The mainstream news and twitter and all that didn't explode until the past 5 to 8 hours


[09-Nov-18 02:16 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
now #protectmueller big


[09-Nov-18 02:16 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[]  thank you for doing your part :)


[09-Nov-18 02:16 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
the protests will only get bigger now


[09-Nov-18 02:17 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
just look at that video. it is inspiring.


[09-Nov-18 02:17 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
so many cities. in deep red states too.


[09-Nov-18 02:17 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
**nobody is above the law**


[09-Nov-18 02:17 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
especially not the president.


[09-Nov-18 02:17 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
or any president.


[09-Nov-18 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is above the law


[09-Nov-18 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
This is not a political constant but it is a political reality


[09-Nov-18 02:19 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
did you watch that video? are you still uninspired? :P


[09-Nov-18 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
There are some ways out:
1. Death
2. Resignation
3. Impeachment
4. Being voted out


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Tbh trump doesn't care what we think


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Trump has the power that's all he cares about


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then trump is a fool because his power is going byebye


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
1,2 are independent; 3,4 depend only on _votes_


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
he is not king


[09-Nov-18 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
votes are the currency that matters here


[09-Nov-18 02:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i'm not going to play this stupid game tonight.


[09-Nov-18 02:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Then concede, or change your argument.


[09-Nov-18 02:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I hate him too but look he doesn't give a fuck what we think


[09-Nov-18 02:21 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i'm not going to play 'keep stating things that are great and good and full of potential' with people who keep saying 'dont bother it all sucks'


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you do realize there were many huge blue wins in the midterms. and they are still not finished counting senate seats in arizona and florida.


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and other places.


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
and he won't care until something like assassination


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you do realize trump is a panicking little bitch. that is why he's done this crazy move to put in an illegal AG


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Feelings don't matter


[09-Nov-18 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
_Winning_ matters


[09-Nov-18 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
We won the House, that's an important victory


[09-Nov-18 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
We didn't win the Senate


[09-Nov-18 02:23 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and you think everything is instantaneous.


[09-Nov-18 02:23 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we made huge accomplishments this week.


[09-Nov-18 02:23 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we can make more accomplishments by making sure this whitaker guy lasts shorter than mooch.


[09-Nov-18 02:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
trump *does* respond to 'peer pressure'


[09-Nov-18 02:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
to social and popular pressure


[09-Nov-18 02:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and even if he doesn't, there are already contingency plans


[09-Nov-18 02:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
with the special counsel and the federal grand jury and judges


[09-Nov-18 02:24 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'm happy for the election results being decent but all they'll do is add fuel to trump it won't be long before he's spewing bullshit again talking about how democrats are shit


[09-Nov-18 02:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
the judge can unseal indictments whenever she pleases, whether mueller's investigation is stalled or not


[09-Nov-18 02:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then we will keep protesting and reminding him we think *he's* shit.


[09-Nov-18 02:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
until he stops his futile stupid game


[09-Nov-18 02:25 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
of 'you can't investigate me'


[09-Nov-18 02:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
The only way to fully get trump out of office is to vote him out, at least in terms of what the average American can do


[09-Nov-18 02:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
why do you think he's so scared of the special counsel investigation? cause they have evidence and subponeas and indictments so damning that he will be fucked. the republicans in general will be fucked. why else would they be so desperate?


[09-Nov-18 02:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
which imo is why democrats should focus on the 2020 election


[09-Nov-18 02:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that means that trump might go down much sooner than two years


[09-Nov-18 02:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
2020 is the absolute latest he will go down. but i think what the special counsel investigation has might make things quicker.


[09-Nov-18 02:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i certainly hope so anyway.


[09-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
consider this: there might be sitting republican senators who will be forced to resign or even be arrested.


[09-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that's how serious this shit could be


[09-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that's why trump wants this to stop


[09-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
thats why we must keep protesting


[09-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I fully believe if democrats don't promote full force he has a chance to get re-elected


[09-Nov-18 02:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
currently democrats are threatening to withhold funding from the government when they take the house


[09-Nov-18 02:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
When was the last time in the last 10 years protesting made a giant change


[09-Nov-18 02:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
unless whitaker steps down from attorney general and deputy ag rosenstein continues overseeing the investigation


[09-Nov-18 02:29 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
they can do that too. the house of reps holds the purse of america


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
they can bring everything to a halt for democracy


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
not trying to dismiss anyone but seriously has anything major changed in the last decade as a result of protest


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
for the democratic republic to be precise


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I believe so. I have no concrete evidence to give you.


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
But I believe those in power give in to sufficient pressure from the masses.


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
There just has to be the will.


[09-Nov-18 02:30 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I would suggest you look into that if you want to further your case


[09-Nov-18 02:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
That's why the white house is so astonished by the huge response too. they were hoping everyone would be too lazy and tired 2 days after elections


[09-Nov-18 02:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i'm happy they're wrong


[09-Nov-18 02:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I have no need to make any 'case for why protests aren't effective' for you.


[09-Nov-18 02:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
giving people past proof will be much more convincing then saying things that aren't absolute fact atm


[09-Nov-18 02:31 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I meant the opposite


[09-Nov-18 02:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Like I said earlier, I'm not here to play this game of 'prove anything positive is worthwhile'


[09-Nov-18 02:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you watch that video clip i shared


[09-Nov-18 02:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you watch it and tell me you feel nothing


[09-Nov-18 02:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then maybe i will say 'yes, in your case, you are right'


[09-Nov-18 02:32 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
maybe it does have no effect whatsoever for some people


[09-Nov-18 02:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
look I'm trying to tell you it's highly unlikely that people will be convinced to protest unless you show them what they're doing has provided results in the past


[09-Nov-18 02:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and yet there they are, thousands of people in hundreds of cities


[09-Nov-18 02:33 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
so you are full of it


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
all you care about is feelings


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
feelings don't win elections


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
votes do


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Full of what? I'm trying to help you strengthen your case


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] and there were winnings in the election


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
so quit your bullshit tbh


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and quit your insistence on 'nothing matters'


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Voting matters


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
it does


[09-Nov-18 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
how is that "nothing matters"


[09-Nov-18 02:35 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
ok, maybe im getting confused here


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
we all agree voting matters. fine, good. we disagree that protests matter.


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
let's leave it at that


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
im not going to change your minds, obviously.


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you expect some fucking legal documentation.


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
That's not what I'm saying


[09-Nov-18 02:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
then what are you saying?


[09-Nov-18 02:37 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] why exactly did you go today if you thought it was pointless?


[09-Nov-18 02:37 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
or yesterday i mean.


[09-Nov-18 02:37 PM] byte[]#2610
I went because I am politically engaged


[09-Nov-18 02:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and then you turn around and say 'i wasted my time'


[09-Nov-18 02:38 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I'm saying your case is weak you can't just say "go protest" and leave it at that and expect droves of people to just attend. I do believe protest is important but it's only secondary to voting


[09-Nov-18 02:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Hardly


[09-Nov-18 02:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I had nothing better to do


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Starlight Glimmer <3 We are in fucking agreement then.


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Here's my problem then.


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I share protest videos and links and you guys just go 'ehh so what'


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Can you not start swearing at me i'm trying to keep this civil


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you're entitled to feel that way, but i am not entitled to have to explain why you should care


[09-Nov-18 02:39 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i said from the fucking start im fucking sick of having to 'encourage' people to give a shit


[09-Nov-18 02:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
either you do, or you dont.


[09-Nov-18 02:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
fine i will stop swearing.


[09-Nov-18 02:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Really that's not the case there's tons of people who are incapable of attending things like protests but do agree with them


[09-Nov-18 02:40 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
im worn out ok


[09-Nov-18 02:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
ive spent days trying to rally and motivate people


[09-Nov-18 02:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i apologize. you two are not that bad. you are not trolls or assholes.


[09-Nov-18 02:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you are incredibly pedantic though.


[09-Nov-18 02:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and its obnoxious.


[09-Nov-18 02:41 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I mean part of that is bc I lack faith in even myself


[09-Nov-18 02:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Unknowingly, I ended up playing you with your own argument


[09-Nov-18 02:42 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I just don't have the mental energy to pour myself 24/7 into politics


[09-Nov-18 02:42 PM] byte[]#2610
So that's something to ponder


[09-Nov-18 02:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@Starlight Glimmer <3 I haven't gone to any protest myself, and might not still, despite how important I feel it is. I'm ashamed about it, but I have serious social anxiety. like early season fluttershy levels. i would only freak out or cause a scene or get in the way.


[09-Nov-18 02:43 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i'm doing better trying to spread the word or donate


[09-Nov-18 02:44 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you can see how i've been freaking out a bit here tonight too..


[09-Nov-18 02:44 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
so im sorry


[09-Nov-18 02:44 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Yeah see I do share those kinds of things but I just reblog or retweet a post about it and if it moves my followers good, if they don't care oh well not my deal


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
that was my intent tonight oyu know...


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i just wanted to post that stuff and **go**


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
but immediately im dragged into a debate about the merits of the protests...


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
im sick of that. sick of it.


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Well this is a channel of discussion not a social media feed


[09-Nov-18 02:45 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
you make an incredibly good point.


[09-Nov-18 02:46 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
now i just feel stupid and embarrassed.


[09-Nov-18 02:46 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
@byte[] @Starlight Glimmer <3 I'm sorry.


[09-Nov-18 02:46 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
it's ok I'm not mad at you


[09-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
well, im still kind of sad that you two don't seem at all inspired about these protests


[09-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
but oh well


[09-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
i shouldn't lash out and get frustrated. that just makes me an idiot.


[09-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and a hypocrite.


[09-Nov-18 02:56 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Even if I wanted to go to a protest I'm literally incapable of it I have republican parents that I rely on taking me places I'm an 18 year old who only has a learner's permit


[09-Nov-18 02:57 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I understand. I also can't go, for different reasons, that I already explained.


[09-Nov-18 02:58 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Sometimes the best thing we can do is encourage others in our stead.


[09-Nov-18 03:00 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and also not have a short temper like me.


[09-Nov-18 03:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
Sometimes just sharing a single link to something, will change the hearts and minds of five people, twenty people, one hundred, and so forth.


[09-Nov-18 03:01 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
even something that simple can cause ripples of effects


[09-Nov-18 03:03 PM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
and sometimes they don't.


[09-Nov-18 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Nov-18 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610

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[09-Nov-18 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Pretty much


[09-Nov-18 06:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Regulate and break up!


[09-Nov-18 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehardtimes.net/news/dd-party-member-with-3-charisma-keeps-trying-to-fucking-roll-deception/?fbclid=IwAR3IuwWwlAy_au-h4aLEZcA2F_figbL1TAEihXglwRZxkz2cTcW6JMaVHbc

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D&D Party Member With -3 Charisma Keeps Trying to Fucking Roll Dec...
Sarah Huckabee Sanders was seen attempting a Deception roll despite her character sporting an abysmal 5 total Charisma score.
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[09-Nov-18 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So uh


[09-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We've now reached the point where a mass shooter was making fun of "thoughts and prayers" before he did it and said people will do nothing in response to what he will do


[09-Nov-18 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[09-Nov-18 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m honestly more surprised that mass shooters dont jsut go in screamign "THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS FOR EVERYONE!"


[09-Nov-18 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just waiting for one where he names his guns that


[09-Nov-18 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the NRA basically jsut told doctors to stop advocating for gun control because they're tired of treatign mass gunshot wounds


[09-Nov-18 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thots and players


[09-Nov-18 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nra-opens-social-media-war-doctors-over-firearms-n934056

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'We are not anti-gun; we are anti-bullet holes in our patients.'
Gun deaths rose in 2015 after falling in earlier years, CDC says in a new report.
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[09-Nov-18 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually i;m kind of surprised that a mass shooter hasnt hit a hospital yet


[09-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To quote the 48th predsident of the United States


[09-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Band-Aids don't fix bullet holes"


[09-Nov-18 06:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone shooting up a hospital in the US would save a lot of families a lifetime of debt...


[09-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Wait I thought we only have had 45 presidents


[09-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(No one tell them)


[09-Nov-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah good ol' president 48


[09-Nov-18 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Nov-18 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Hospitals usually have armed guards, don't they


[09-Nov-18 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually but so did afew of the mass shooting places i think


[09-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/climate/judge-blocks-keystone-pipeline.html

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Judge Blocks the Disputed Keystone XL Pipeline in a Setback for Tr...
The Trump administration “simply discarded” the effect the project would have on climate change, the court found.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/10/world/10cli-keystone/10cli-keystone-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the basis here is that an agency cannot ignore its previously-found facts when reversing course on policy.


[09-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty usual reason for Trump's orders being torn up


[09-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
One that Kavanaugh will almost certainly not buy as part of how gov't should work


[09-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Republicans don't care about facts.


[09-Nov-18 09:04 PM] Arvid#8335
"Trump is being censored by the protestors" - Sargon Of Akkad


[09-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the alt-right doesn't hav to make any damn sense at all, it's just looking to make an impression in the minds of idiots.


[09-Nov-18 09:08 PM] Arvid#8335
To be fair, the thing I posted was a troll quote (Sargon never literally said that), but I feel like that's unironically his mindset deep down


[09-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Arvid#8335
Their are people out their that probably believe protesting against Trump is more authoritarian than what Trump actually does.


[09-Nov-18 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
"True libertarians let people just speak, no matter what!"


[09-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure he takes bigger issues with the judge's ruling


[09-Nov-18 09:15 PM] Arvid#8335
The alt-right is absolute cancer, all about narrative over facts.


[09-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Arvid#8335
Though, admittedly there are hints of truth hidden within' their lunacy.


[09-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Arvid#8335
When Trump calls CNN "the enemy of the people" for example, he's not wrong.


[09-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Arvid#8335
They supported the Iraq war back in the day and are obviously pro-corporate.


[09-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Arvid#8335
They say progressive stuff sometimes but for the most part, they're neo-liberal


[09-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Arvid#8335
Trump uses this factor to advance reactionary sentiment


[09-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Arvid#8335
Right wingers will often appropriate actually progressive sentiment sometimes and twist it to promote reactionary ideas as a response.


[09-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Arvid#8335
Admittedly the alt-right wouldn't be worth a damn currently if their wasn't some hints of truth hidden beneath all the wacky shit that they spew.


[09-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The alt-right holds one of my fundamental beliefs in the inverse


[09-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The state should not dictate the dominant culture of its people


[09-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Arvid#8335
That doesn't make sense. The alt-right actually do want the state to dictate culture.


[09-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know.


[09-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Arvid#8335
They want an ethnostate.


[09-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My belief is that the state shouldn't dictate culture.


[09-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The alt-right wants ethnostates, which is exactly that


[09-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Arvid#8335
oh, that's what you meant by "inverse"


[09-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hes-a-fanding-fool-doj-vets-fear-the-impact-whitaker-will-have-beyond-mueller

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‘He’s a F*cking Fool’: Justice Department Officials Trash Th...
The new, acting attorney general will have profound powers on things not just related to the Russia probe.
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[09-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
Inside the Department of Justice, however, the fears are more expansive. Whitaker is seen as a rogue and underqualified new leader whose impact won’t just be felt on the Mueller probe but throughout the federal government.


[09-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
Already, Whitaker has signed off on a controversial new regulation that will allow President Trump to prohibit certain immigrants from seeking asylum. The department is currently prepping for December hearings in the AT&T-Time Warner case, in which DoJ has appealed the $85 billion merger. It is also also knee-deep in its lawsuit to block California’s new net neutrality law from going into place.


[09-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr whitaker is in over his head


[09-Nov-18 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[09-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fla-gov-rick-scott-sues-broward-palm-beach-counties-accuses-n934286

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Florida Gov. sues counties and accuses 'unethical liberals' of try...
Rick Scott, who ran against incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson, alleged that the Broward County and Palm Beach County supervisors of elections were engaging in "rampant fraud."
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[09-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
jesus fuckin' christ


[09-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
>actually engage in attempts to mess with the election as a party


[09-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
>accuse other party of doing it when the law is followed


[09-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't even surprising


[09-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just their strategy.


[09-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lying, cheating, and anything else to win office.


[09-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/415894-cindy-mccain-rips-arizona-gop-for-suing-over-counting-mail-in-ballots-i-am

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Cindy McCain rips Arizona GOP over mail-in ballots lawsuit: ‘I a...
Cindy McCain, widow of the late Arizona Sen. John McCain (R), knocked her state's Republican Party on Thursday over GOP-led efforts to change the procedure by which the state counts mail-in ballots.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mccaincindy_083218am1.jpg


[09-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how I said eventually the GOP would go after absentee ballots because Democrats might start leading in those? (traditionally, absentee ballots actually favored Republicans)


[09-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
yeeeeeeeep


[09-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nile#1441
Isn't democracy fun


[09-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How are the ballots still not counted


[09-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking two of Arizona's counties actually try to deal with if someone's signature on an absentee ballot doesn't match


[09-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republicans want to throw out as many votes as possible when there are issues


[09-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats want to actually make sure people's votes get counted


[09-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because higher turnout favors Democrats and problems tend to mainly occur with minority votes.


[09-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415951-ocasio-cortez-rips-fox-news-for-cracking-jokes-about-her-finances-it-shows

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Ocasio-Cortez rips Fox News for cracking 'jokes' about her finance...
Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) tore into Fox News hosts on Friday for "gleefully" cracking jokes about her finances, saying that the hosts' comments revealed what their thoughts about working-class people.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_080218getty.jpg


[09-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
Ocasio-Cortez revealed on Thursday that she will need to wait for her congressional salary to kick in before she can afford to rent an apartment in D.C.


[09-Nov-18 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/8oiCinA.png

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[09-Nov-18 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
shrekt


[09-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans' greatest fear: consistent interpretation of the law


[09-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that law was put in place because the green party candidate demanded a recount 2 years ago


[09-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
when she only got like 1% of the vote


[09-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
and they had to give it to her


[09-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
the law is that a candidate can't demand a recount unless they're within 1% of the winner


[09-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny, but I also feel like it's something necessary


[09-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah


[09-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Process is important in many ways


[09-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Process can ensure fairness and prevent troublemaking


[09-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so when Republicans create process to stop their enemies, a lot of the time about half of it is actually sane, and they roll with it because they're currently winning


[09-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
then the shoe is on the other foot, and they can't just shut it down and be unfair because they're in the losing position.


[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/politics/brian-kemp-resigns-secretary-of-state-georgia-governor-race-stacey-abrams/index.html

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Georgia governor's race is still undecided as votes continue to be...
Georgia Republican Brian Kemp resigned as secretary of state on Thursday to begin his transition to the state's top office. Kemp currently leads Democrat Stacey Abrams, with 50.3% of the vote. But there are still ballots to count.
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[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
what


[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
kemp has already resigned as secretary of state


[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
to prepare for the governorship


[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
but the vote is still undecided


[09-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
now I really really want him to lose


[09-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
so he just can't go back to being secretary of state


[09-Nov-18 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to see him burn politically


[09-Nov-18 10:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's a lot of ego if i've seen it


[09-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
it'd be the most ironic thing to ever happen


[09-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it goes below 50%


[09-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
it goes to a runoff


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and without him overseeing the voting


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
blakks might actually be able to vote Stacey


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republican line is always "MOVE ON MOVE ON PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING"


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
on that exact match bullshit


[09-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the court didn't throw out the law


[09-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
the judge just turned ballots thrown away into provisional ballots...which are often just thrown away because it's up to the election officials to figure out if they're valid


[09-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Georgia has about twice the nationwide rate for throwing out provisional ballots


[09-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/09/almost-everything-about-matthew-whitakers-appointment-is-problematic/


[09-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the appointment itself is probably unconstitutional


[09-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the choice of who to appoint most likely another brikk in Mueller's obstruction of justice wall


[09-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Whitaker seems to be unqualified at best and part of a scam at worst.


[09-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Overall, it's like Trump is trying to play brinksmanship with the courts.


[09-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing just how far he can go.


[09-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/09/665634367/scientists-spy-on-bees-see-harmful-effects-of-common-insecticide

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Scientists Spy On Bees, See Harmful Effects Of Common Insecticide
Bees exposed to a type of insecticides called neonicotinoids dramatically changed their behavior — becoming sluggish, antisocial and spending less time caring for the colony's young, researchers say.
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[09-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in August, Trump's Fish and Wildlife Service rescinded a ban on this shit


[09-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
FFS https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/665407297/trump-administration-sides-with-sudan-against-uss-cole-survivors-in-lawsuit

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Trump Administration Sides With Sudan Against USS Cole Survivors I...
Notice of the suit was sent to Sudan's U.S. Embassy instead of to its capital. The administration told the Supreme Court that it agrees with Sudan, which is accused of backing the Cole attackers.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/07/uss-cole_wide-26cda7a19f5c8f65901747c0e6f724dae132fc03.jpg?s=1400


[09-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the argument is


[09-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're allowed to sue


[09-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that the lawsuit should be thrown out because they used the proper point of contact


[09-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
which under some legal jargon can be said to be supposed to not touch any lawsuit stuff


[09-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the law is stupid and was put in place by insane Republicans who wanted to score points by making the saudis pay damages to 9/11 victims


[09-Nov-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but now insane Republicans when faced with the law ACTUALLY BEING USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE are throwing up a retarded roadblokk to just fukk over the people seeking money they shouldn't be able to get


[09-Nov-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no consistent ideology or platform here


[09-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want to hav their ability to sue foreign nations for terrorism for good PR and not actually let the lawsuits work too


[09-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS seems to be having none of it, thankfully


[09-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
'"If I wanted to mail something" to the head of a department in a foreign country, said Chief Justice John Roberts, "my first thought" would be to deliver it to the embassy.'


[09-Nov-18 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie An unconstitutional appointment for sure, SCOTUS even now wouldn't like it


[09-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
I wish I lived in norway https://imgur.com/gallery/LOzvNjE

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Healthcare at it's finest
https://i.imgur.com/XkWcpJyh.jpg


[09-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
>And in the US you'd be looking at a minimum of $1200 just for the 2 ambulance rides.


[09-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Argument seen recently


[09-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Other countries can have free healthcare only because the US plays world police and pays for their defense"


[09-Nov-18 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Or they're... just not wont to spend trillions on military


[09-Nov-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea was that if they had to defend themselves they wouldn't have money for nationalized healthcare.


[09-Nov-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That all the money the US could spend on free healthcare is put into defending its allies, and its allies don't realize this when criticizing them for not having free healthcare


[09-Nov-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this argument is bs.


[09-Nov-18 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
It's complete horseshit


[09-Nov-18 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because you know, a 50% tax rate


[09-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, conservatives think that obama literally destroyed our military by reducing spending from $1.5 tril a year to like $895 bil a year


[09-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
and that we wouldn't have been able to defend ourselves from even the most basic attack by iran


[09-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/PvD1WNS.jpg

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[09-Nov-18 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
lmao


[09-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_teleports behind you_


[09-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How do you say "nothing personnel, kid" in Spanish


[09-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://translate.google.com/#en/es/nothing%20personnel%2C%20kid

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[09-Nov-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"nada personal, chico"


[09-Nov-18 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or "chica", if you wanna be sassier


[09-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, the big boss says "nada personal, chaval" would be more correct


[09-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/hcV7evU.jpg

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Witness the truth
https://i.imgur.com/hcV7evU.jpg


[09-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[09-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
idk why, but that crying laughing emoji has always felt insincere to me


[09-Nov-18 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe because it is


[09-Nov-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so true lmfaooooo 😂


[09-Nov-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
😹


[09-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
OwO


[09-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Crow#5457

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[09-Nov-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://kimcampion.com/activism-history/19-black-women-just-became-judges-in-texas-after-winning-in-the-midterm-elections/

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http://kimcampion.com/activism-history/19-black-women-just-became-judges-in-texas-after-winning-in-the-midterm-elections
19 Black Women Just Became Judges In Texas After Winning In The Mi...


[09-Nov-18 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/09/664360606/entire-families-wiped-out-u-s-airstrikes-killed-many-civilians-in-syria

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'Entire Families Wiped Out': U.S. Airstrikes Killed Many Civilians...
Rescuers working to dig out and identify corpses from last year's anti-ISIS offensive in Raqqa estimate there were "thousands" of civilian casualties. The U.S.-led coalition acknowledges 104.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/08/img_7978_wide-54a3344aefa882b614df62b2bf435ed26268cb08.jpg?s=1400


[09-Nov-18 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The top priority was speed


[09-Nov-18 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kill anything and everything in sight and don't sort it out later.


[09-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/09/president-donald-trump-french-president-emmanuel-macron-nato-military-europe-china-russia-twitter/1946813002/

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President Donald Trump slams French President Emmanuel Macron for ...
A flare-up right before Donald Trump meets with French President Emmanuel Macron, his host for the weekend in Paris.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/11/09/USAT/5f53af3d-0256-4fc2-88ff-e656230f821f-AP_France_WWI_US_Trump.JPG?crop=4472,2511,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[09-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[09-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
are you not entertained?


[09-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
is this not why you are here?


[09-Nov-18 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you not into planes!?


[09-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
EU needs greater unification


[09-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now that the malefactor is out, full US of E pls


[09-Nov-18 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many more millions of men need to die in the battefields of France before Europeans realize they cannot do nationalism


[09-Nov-18 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Render nationalism to the point of it being like us from Michigan yelling at people from Ohio, but then the gate gets opened and we shut up and go have beer to complain about Indiana.


[09-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
US for the most part killed individual state pride


[09-Nov-18 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Cali and Texas really have it


[09-Nov-18 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well we killed state pride when no one settles the fuck down in a state but we all scatter, and for every ten or so years a third of the national fabric changes.


[09-Nov-18 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
So the only people I'd argue you have state-pride, or their own culture in the purest form are people in those small areas who despite all things have found community tight enough that rarely do they actively choose to leave it. The Cajun, Mennonites and Amish types, Native Americans (sorta). Most other culture is a bland soup of henpicked signifiers from all over and has saturated the rest of the national social fabric. As the girl on Chapo Trap House says of her friend saying to her when she returned home to Oklahoma after ten years from New York: everyone here's a NYU alumni, they all look the same.


[10-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/yeaQMdN.jpg

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[10-Nov-18 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[10-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
"Good for him. I hope he does a good job at...whatever it is that mayors do."


[10-Nov-18 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ben 10?


[10-Nov-18 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/415685-oregon-town-elects-18-year-old-as-mayor

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Oregon town elects 18-year-old as mayor
A small Oregon town elected an 18-year-old as mayor after he beat out two candidates in Tuesday's election, according to local reports.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/electiondayvotevoting_0501818getty.jpg


[10-Nov-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i hope he's an effective mayor


[10-Nov-18 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/415961-trump-played-key-role-in-coordinating-hush-money-payments-to-daniels

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Trump played key role in coordinating hush money payments to Danie...
President Trump was heavily involved during his presidential campaign in silencing the stories of women who claimed to have extramarital affairs with him, according to a report from
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_danielsstormy_getty.jpg


[10-Nov-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[10-Nov-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shocked i say


[10-Nov-18 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest it wouldnt be surprising to find out part of his campaign money went to paying off a mafia debt or two either


[10-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/09/matthew-whitaker-acting-attorney-general-wpm-scam

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Trump's acting attorney general involved in firm that scammed vete...
Matthew Whitaker was paid advisory board member for WPM, of which veteran tells Guardian: ‘I spent the money on a dream. I lost everything’
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[10-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
how about this one


[10-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
Donald Trump’s new acting attorney general, Matthew Whitaker, was involved in a company that scammed US military veterans out of their life savings, according to court filings and interviews.


[10-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, mentioned that earlier


[10-Nov-18 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, his new attorney general scammed veterans while his head of education scammed college students


[10-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's scamming the country


[10-Nov-18 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome tot he flim flam government of pyramid schemes


[10-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when MLP shows rampant capitalism scamming ponies as evil *and it's a political statement about the president*


[10-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Seriously, Friendship U is basically Trump U)


[10-Nov-18 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and glenn beck U


[10-Nov-18 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*buy more gold! the apocalypse is coming*


[10-Nov-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Neighsay had more reasonable and coherent arguments than Trump often does


[10-Nov-18 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Neighsay is seen as a rather flimsy villain.


[10-Nov-18 01:36 AM] Yuri#4154
A rock has more coherent arguments than him


[10-Nov-18 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i get where neighsay's arguement came from but perhaps expelling the diplomatic students of other species isnt a good idea and might start war


[10-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-mass-shooter-posted-social-media-during-bar-rampage-n934496

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California mass shooter posted to social media during bar rampage
Long also wrote that he knew his mental state would be debated for years, law enforcement officials said.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2639031/181108-ian-long-al-1338_eb43520919fae96531e1b3284b7d753b.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[10-Nov-18 01:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MMgJUpOHrs https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EcstaticReflectingBlackfootedferret-poster.jpg https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EcstaticReflectingBlackfootedferret-poster.jpg A reffrence to the show Parks and Recreation where the Charecter called Ben gets elected mayor at the age of 18 and ruins the town.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MMgJUpOHrs
Ben Wyatt - Being A Mayor
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[10-Nov-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
> This video contains content from NBC Universal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.


[10-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://eu7.proxysite.com/process.php?d=affoXRUSCWMW4Qnvgp1UDPbyHceqrlxggCTqcGK55dkaNENnZ9q9

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[10-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2018/11/09/commentary-heres-how-brian-kemp-is-stealing-the-georgia-election/

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Commentary: Here’s how Brian Kemp is stealing the Georgia election
Half a million Georgia voters were purged with no notice — and their provisional ballots likely won't be counted
https://media.salon.com/2018/11/kemp-voting-booths.jpg


[10-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0f4EsFx6Ug

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Greg Palast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0f4EsFx6Ug
92-Year Old Blocked from Voting in Georgia
92-year old Georgia voter Christine Jordan went to the polls only to find she’s one of Brian Kemp’s victims, purged from the voter rolls. She told me she’s v...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B0f4EsFx6Ug/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
she's a cousin of martin luther king jr.


[10-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rolls should never be purged ever


[10-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No excuse


[10-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Register in 2018 but don't vote until 2048, shouldn't matter


[10-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only on verified death


[10-Nov-18 02:27 AM] Yuri#4154
lol

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[10-Nov-18 02:28 AM] Yuri#4154
They played themselves


[10-Nov-18 02:28 AM] Yuri#4154
Of course they deleted the post


[10-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
rekt


[10-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking


[10-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[10-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
these "rolls" should not exist


[10-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
voters should not need to fukking register to get their rights given to them


[10-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voter registration *exists* to put a hurdle between minorities and voting.


[10-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you should need to be able to vote is to prove you are a US citizen that livs somewhere in the polling place's covered area, full stop.


[10-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the gov't should be REQUIRED to get >90% of adults free REAL ID


[10-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
States that fail to do so should be barred from all federal funding.


[10-Nov-18 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[10-Nov-18 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would you require people to register to be able to enter a gun shop?


[10-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would you require people to register to get freedom of speech? Or the right to exercise their religion?


[10-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK. NO.


[10-Nov-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The restrictions we place on this stuff are meant to be limited and not to deter people from actually using their damn rights.


[10-Nov-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We limit gun sales because we hav a process for stripping gun rights for those who are dangerous and would not use the weapon to defend themselves. We limit speech primarily in the sense of being able to cause mass panic. We barely do anything for religion, mostly just use tax exempt status as a hook to get churches to stay out of gov't


[10-Nov-18 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
For far too long, the *right* to vote has been treated as an afterthought, barriers erected based on fearmongering nonsense.


[10-Nov-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP has made it their political mission to take away people's rights in order to prevent the people from making the government represent the people fairly; that is something for which we *must never forgive them*.


[10-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nile#1441
tl;dr


[10-Nov-18 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The GOP are right restricting traitors who can never be fforgiven


[10-Nov-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traitors to Democracy itself.


[10-Nov-18 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would literally sell this country to russia through ttransaction if it meant earngin a quick buck


[10-Nov-18 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2018/11/09/donald-trump-cant-resist-takes-a-jab-at-hospitalized-justice-ginsburg-shes-not-on-my-side/

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Donald Trump can’t resist, takes a jab at hospitalized Justice Gi...
The president's well wishes to an ill Ruth Bader Ginsburg reveal just how politically he views the Supreme Court
https://media.salon.com/2016/07/trump_bader_ginsburg-580x385.jpg


[10-Nov-18 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
case in point


[10-Nov-18 03:16 AM] Nile#1441
Oh the poor woman


[10-Nov-18 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was out of the hospital one day after breaking three ribs.


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She has already disparaged idiots representing Sudan and Trump


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
After they made the legal argument to the court


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie You can't withhold all Federal funding from a state to get them to do something, only a certain amount


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
that sending mail notifying of a lawsuit to an embassy


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All would be too much.


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
"In 2016, Ginsburg had critiqued Trump during the election, calling him a “faker” in a CNN interview. "He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment,” she said. “He really has an ego.”"


[10-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
the place you're supposed to fukking send mail


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
was violating the embassy


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s a retarded arguement


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sudan is gonna lose that one pretty fukking hard.


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
I violate every building I enter just by existing


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"followign the rules violates the rules!"


[10-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the argument that Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and the US are making to be able to rebuff any attempt to sue them


[10-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
after the US created rules under which other countries could be sued for acts of terror committed by their citizens


[10-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is itself stupid


[10-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead of arguing that that was stupid


[10-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're going with the idea that it's not a violation of sovereignty or anything to sue a country for the actions of its citizens


[10-Nov-18 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
no no, it's a violation of sovereignty to send your legal notice to the place they put in place specifically to talk country to country as opposed to mailing it directly to the capital


[10-Nov-18 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not simple stupid, this is *advanced* stupid.


[10-Nov-18 03:22 AM] Nile#1441
Okay


[10-Nov-18 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a stupidity singularity


[10-Nov-18 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a stupidox


[10-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Nile#1441
I question the sovereignty of nations all the time


[10-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Nile#1441
:op:


[10-Nov-18 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is also commiting obstructofuck


[10-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Nile#1441
I wonder if at this point, the U.S. would favour a military coup instead of Trump


[10-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What has he done today besides like about knowing WhitakeL


[10-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A military coup would probably poll poorly with the South


[10-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military is too liberal.


[10-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the thing the South hates the most is a liberal federal gov't telling it what (not) to do.


[10-Nov-18 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by liberal, I mean anywhere to the left of Nixon.


[10-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Nile#1441
I secretly would like the U.S. to fail 🤔


[10-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see you share Trump's approach to secrecy.


[10-Nov-18 03:28 AM] Nile#1441
Secretly is more of an expression in this instance


[10-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theonion.com/trump-says-he-hopes-to-work-with-democrats-on-infrastru-1830335946

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Trump Says He Hopes To Work With Democrats On Infrastructure, Drug...
In a Wednesday press conference, President Trump said that he hopes to work together with the newly victorious House Democrats on issues ranging from infrastructure to drug pricing. What do you think?
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[10-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hahahahaha


[10-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I think.


[10-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I don't think people realize the significance of the House coming under the Dems, it means Trump isn't different or special


[10-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Trump is “special” what are you talking about


[10-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Orange man dumb


[10-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
upload file: "orange man dumb.exe"


[10-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
upload file: "call_others_npcs.exe"


[10-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
orange man good, npc bad


[10-Nov-18 04:25 AM] Nile#1441
:^l


[10-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
trump looks like an oompa loompa


[10-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article221428260.html

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Thursday, Rick Scott had won the Keys by one vote. By Friday, he h...
The Monroe County Supervisor of Elections released new numbers Friday that show Gov. Rick Scott received 10 less votes in the race for Senate than incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson. Previous results gave Scott a one-vote lead.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/y4xo8x/picture221426330/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/1063911104.JPG


[10-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I fee like you could rename this channel "nobody-likes-trump" and still be accurate


[10-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who like Trump tend to not use Discord


[10-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
or tend to be memey edgelords


[10-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[10-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
part of me feels like Selaphiel doesn't actually like Trump or if he does it's not because he's good rather he's a memelord himself basically


[10-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sela I think has some kind of issue


[10-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nile#1441
Sela is a good dude


[10-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china/us-presses-china-to-halt-militarization-of-south-china-sea-idUSKCN1NE2C4

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U.S. presses China to halt militarization of South China Sea
Standing side by side, top U.S. officials urged their Chinese counterparts on Fr...


[10-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
fallout 5 when


[10-Nov-18 07:25 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Right after fallout 76


[10-Nov-18 07:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fallout 5 on Xi time 2050


[10-Nov-18 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/CHNdBxm.png

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Actually genius. Evil, but genius.
https://i.imgur.com/CHNdBxm.png


[10-Nov-18 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/d7JmgAe.jpg

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[10-Nov-18 11:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
I made a short screencap comic to 'chill out' from politics a bit.


[10-Nov-18 11:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
_Those Who Sincerely Regret
Deserve Compassion and Forgiveness_


[10-Nov-18 11:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
https://derpibooru.org/1878944

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#1878944 - a matter of principals, angry, background pony, banner,...
MLP:FIM Imageboard - Image #1878944 - a matter of principals, angry, background pony, banner, chancellor neighsay, comic, edit, edited screencap, eyes closed, frown, plant, pony, potted plant, sad, safe, school of friendship, school raze, screencap, screencap comic, shocked, ...
https://derpicdn.net/img/2018/11/10/1878944/medium.png


[10-Nov-18 11:54 AM] Starlight Glimmer#9500
time for rest. zzz


[10-Nov-18 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Nov-18 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-sign-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-illnesses/

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FACT CHECK: Did President Trump Revoke Gun Background Checks for M...
In February 2017, President Trump repealed an Obama-era regulation that would have made it easier to block the sale of firearms to people with certain mental illnesses.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/02/donald_trump_revoke_laws_feature.jpg?fit=1200,628


[10-Nov-18 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
>True


[10-Nov-18 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Nov-18 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Nov-18 05:55 PM] Arvid#8335
@Mikey I think Seraph just enjoys being an edgelord to be honest


[10-Nov-18 05:55 PM] Arvid#8335
Not that I have room to talk because I'm an edgelord too


[10-Nov-18 05:57 PM] Nile#1441
Much so


[10-Nov-18 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"fight the fire faster or i'll remove your ability to fight the fires entirely!"


[10-Nov-18 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing him this likely means the fire got a little too close to a trump hotel/golf club for his liking


[10-Nov-18 06:02 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
FFS https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-one-of-his-final-actions-as-attorney-general-sessions-moves-to-restrict-police-reform-agreements/2018/11/09/76a64e5c-e437-11e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html


[10-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
So on his way out


[10-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
he signed a thing saying reforms made to police dept.s via consent decrees are limited to 3 years and need approval from 2 DoJ officials


[10-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[10-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a police dept. is regularly violating the constitution


[10-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the main way to get it to agree to do something to stop is now severely limited and hard to get


[10-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
because Sessions wants to make sure police dept.s aren't held accountable


[10-Nov-18 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[10-Nov-18 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is south ireland's government any competent?


[10-Nov-18 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe scottland?


[10-Nov-18 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd ask about north ireland's government but thye dont have one


[10-Nov-18 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
663 days and counting


[10-Nov-18 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have beat belgium's record by 74 days


[10-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/technology/facebook-arbitration-harassment.html

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By DAISUKE WAKABAYASHI and JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/technology/facebook-arbitration-harassment.html
Facebook to Drop Forced Arbitration in Harassment Cases
The social media giant acted one day after Google, facing intense pressure from employees, made a similar decision.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/10/business/10FACEBOOK02/10FACEBOOK02-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
okay but like


[10-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
this shit should be ILLEGAL


[10-Nov-18 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why the fuck is forced private arbitration a thing?


[10-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rampant capitalism that Republicans hav no intention of stopping


[10-Nov-18 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS upheld it because the court is conservative


[10-Nov-18 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was only ever meant to keep experienced parties from flooding the court system


[10-Nov-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not to keep it so you can't talk about being raped by a supervisor


[10-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also state interference to the degree Republicans want isn't capitalism, it is corporatism/fascism


[10-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God can't wait until Dems pack the court


[10-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just add like five more justices


[10-Nov-18 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or better


[10-Nov-18 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have an age _floor_


[10-Nov-18 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like have to be over 65


[10-Nov-18 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or maybe lower than a certain age?


[10-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No real danger in an 85 year old appointment


[10-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The danger is Republicans keep choosing younger and younger people just because they are young


[10-Nov-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought it was the opposite


[10-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is the Federalist Society has tons of shills ready to be appointed


[10-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho mostly old people share Republican beliefs, some young ones can still be found


[10-Nov-18 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true enough


[10-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh is going to be on SCOTUS for like 30 years, mind


[10-Nov-18 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
unless he gets impeached


[10-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
get rekt https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/10/health/aetna-verdict-oklahoma-orrana-cunningham/index.html

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Jury delivers $25.5 million 'statement' to Aetna to change its ways
An Oklahoma jury has awarded $25.5 million to the family of a cancer patient denied coverage by Aetna, with jurors saying that the insurer acted "recklessly" and that the verdict was meant as a message for Aetna to change its ways.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181108133334-04-oklahoma-verdict-aetna-110818-super-tease.jpg


[10-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Aetna attorney John Shely said in closing arguments that the insurance giant was proud of the three medical directors who denied coverage, even turning to thank them as they sat in the front row of the courtroom, according to jurors and other witnesses in court. "


[10-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
These people should be in jail.


[10-Nov-18 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
insurance companies are monsters


[10-Nov-18 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially those guys


[10-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd be pissed if my attorney did that


[10-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Way to make it even worse in an already biased case


[11-Nov-18 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/10/politics/andrew-gillum-withdraw-concession-florida-governor/index.html

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Andrew Gillum withdraws concession as Florida recount begins
Democrat Andrew Gillum withdrew his concession to Republican former Rep. Ron DeSantis in the Florida governor's race on Saturday, hours after the secretary of state announced a recount of their race and two others.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181102165531-01-andrew-gillum-file-1102-super-tease.jpg


[11-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Florida will never learn how to do this right.


[11-Nov-18 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen pictures of boxes of ballots still needing to be counted


[11-Nov-18 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives say they're all fake votes


[11-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
that anything not counted after the time limit should be discarded


[11-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
and that the boxes are filled with fraudulent votes that're only for democrats


[11-Nov-18 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stupidity


[11-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
also apparently there's a person in charge of a district who was caught and convicted of destroying votes


[11-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
but is still in charge of the voting district for some stupid reason


[11-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
brenda snipes


[11-Nov-18 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article221452655.html

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Whoops! Brenda Snipes’ office mixed bad provisional ballots with...
Amid accusations of incompetence, Broward Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes accidentally mixed 12 rejected ballots in with 193 valid ones Friday night.
https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/rbsiz/picture221396940/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/fl-ne-election-broward-turnout-thursday-FL0086068341


[11-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
she destroyed ballots in the 2016 election


[11-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
but is still in charge lol


[11-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're trying to throw everything out over these 12 votes


[11-Nov-18 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only 12k votes separate in the Senate race


[11-Nov-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-11/papua-new-guinea-spends-big-on-apec-but-locals-in-poverty/10485862

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'We are suffering here': PNG rolling out APEC red carpet but local...
In a country where poverty is rife, and there's just been a polio outbreak, some Papua New Guineans are struggling to square their day-to-day lives with the money being spent on the APEC summit.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10485914-16x9-700x394.jpg


[11-Nov-18 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/10/trump-cancels-ww1-memorial-at-us-cemetery-in-france-due-to-rain-sparking-twitterstorm.html

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Trump cancels WW1 memorial at US cemetery in France due to rain, s...
President Donald Trump could not attend a commemoration in France for U.S. soldiers and marines killed during World War One on Saturday because rain made it impossible to arrange transport, the White House said.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/11/10/105566895-1541883794913gettyimages-1059888666.1910x1000.jpeg


[11-Nov-18 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead what he did was he went to play golf yet again


[11-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macron should refuse to meet with him.


[11-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, in Canada https://torrentfreak.com/canada-introduces-bill-to-ban-piracy-settlement-notices-181030/

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Ernesto
https://torrentfreak.com/canada-introduces-bill-to-ban-piracy-settlement-notices-181030
Canada Introduces Bill to Ban Piracy Settlement Notices - TorrentFreak
A new bill introduced by the Canadian Government proposes to ban the inclusion of settlement demands in the piracy notices ISPs are required to forward to subscribers. This practice is seen as an abuse of the country's "notice-and-notice" scheme and has been criticized by cop...
https://torrentfreak.com/images/canada1-featured.jpg


[11-Nov-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ugh, they're gonna essentially enshrine the idea the game company decides what mods can exist or not https://torrentfreak.com/epic-games-sues-youtuber-golden-modz-over-magical-fortnite-powers-181012/

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Ernesto
https://torrentfreak.com/epic-games-sues-youtuber-golden-modz-over-magical-fortnite-powers-181012
Epic Games Sues YouTuber 'Golden Modz' Over 'Magical' Fortnite Pow...
With more than 1.7 million subscribers, 'Golden Modz' ranks among the more popular gaming YouTubers. In his videos, he often showcases GTA 5 and Fortnite cheats, referring to them as 'magical powers,' which are sold on a linked website. This type of magic is not what Epic Gam...
https://torrentfreak.com/images/fortfeat.jpg


[11-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the idea is that any modification you can add is violating the copyright of the original thing


[11-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if I released a set of horse textures that include naughty bits, usable by any game using certain texture formats, I'm violating the copyright of whichever company owning those games complains about it.


[11-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rockstar is like pioneering this kind of suit


[11-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Nintendo in taking down ROM sites settles


[11-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Epic Games


[11-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
they've been very aggressively using any legal BS they can to go after people who cheat in Fortnie


[11-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
because their anti-cheat infrastructure is terrible


[11-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One year from now when Fortnite is dead it will seem funny.


[11-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Overwatch is dead on anything but PC, which means dead overall


[11-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
if fortnite being dead means PUBG as well i'm all for it


[11-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe epic can focus on UT4


[11-Nov-18 03:21 AM] Mikey#7286
also OW being dead on console is not a loss tbh, the competitive FPS scene is best on PC


[11-Nov-18 03:23 AM] Yuri#4154
I play OW nearly everyday on PS4


[11-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Yuri#4154
It's _far_ from dead


[11-Nov-18 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
overwatch also just got lego sets


[11-Nov-18 03:34 AM] Yuri#4154
And cereal


[11-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://torrentfreak.com/att-to-terminate-first-customers-over-piracy-accusations-181106/

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Ernesto
https://torrentfreak.com/att-to-terminate-first-customers-over-piracy-accusations-181106
AT&T to Terminate First Customers Over Piracy Accusations - Torren...
Internet provider AT&T plans to terminate the accounts of over a dozen subscribers who were repeatedly flagged for copyright infringements. This is reportedly the first time the company has taken this measure, which is based on copyright holder complaints.
https://torrentfreak.com/images/computerkeyboardfeat.png


[11-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
we're losing the internet


[11-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
slowly but surely


[11-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nile#1441
Copyright infringers 🤔


[11-Nov-18 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/09/politics/emmanuel-macron-donald-trump-military-nato/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/09/politics/emmanuel-macron-donald-trump-military-nato/index.html
Trump spars with Macron as Air Force One lands in France
President Donald Trump picked a fight with French President Emmanuel Macron over European defense just as Air Force One landed in France on Friday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170603083751-trump-macron-split-super-tease.jpg


[11-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
trump whines that the EU isn't pulling its weight militarily, and he whines when they're announcing they're moving away from relying on US military


[11-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
as I said yesterday, "are you not entertained?"


[11-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
"is this not why you are here?"


[11-Nov-18 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"well i know i said i wanted you to build a military so we don;t have to protect you all the time but I didnt actually mean it. I dont want another nation with the ability to fight me on military terms!"


[11-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://gizmodo.com/the-fda-is-reportedly-looking-to-ban-menthol-cigarettes-1830360050

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The FDA Is Reportedly Looking to Ban Menthol Cigarettes
Following a report this week that the Food and Drug Administration was planning to announce a crackdown on the sale of some flavored vaping products, a separate report claims traditional menthol cigarettes could also be on the chopping block.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W3J9mSUe--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/sfqkm6khsjfykdixbmwn.jpg


[11-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
Oof the general


[11-Nov-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/6jWonCW

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Macron strikes again
https://i.imgur.com/ksYmrH8h.jpg


[11-Nov-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Nov-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/phJ6jkL.jpg

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[11-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
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Oh dear
https://i.imgur.com/4FB2hr0.jpg


[11-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/YF9TByS.jpg

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[11-Nov-18 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tKTbnqC.jpg

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[11-Nov-18 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/10/donald-trump-cancels-visit-wwi-cemetery-ceremony-because-rain/1958788002/

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Critics denounce 'low energy' Donald Trump for skipping WWI cemete...
White House cites rain as reason for canceling cemetery visit by Donald Trump.
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[11-Nov-18 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
"They died with their face to the foe and that pathetic inadequate Donald Trump couldn’t even defy the weather to pay his respects to The Fallen," said Nicholas Soames, Churchill's grandson and a member of British Parliament.


[11-Nov-18 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
Despite the rain, an American delegation led by Chief of Staff General John Kelly and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joe Dunford still attended the event.


[11-Nov-18 08:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NSoames/status/1061270124404113408

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Nicholas Soames (@NSoames)
https://twitter.com/NSoames/status/1061270124404113408
They died with their face to the foe and that pathetic inadequate @realDonaldTrump couldn’t even defy the weather to pay his respects to The Fallen #hesnotfittorepresenthisgreatcountry
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[11-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
grandson of winston churchill


[11-Nov-18 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/10/donald-trump-accuses-democrats-trying-steal-florida-elections/1957842002/ this is what he did while he was skipping the ceremony

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While in Paris, Trump accuses Democrats of trying to steal Florida...
Donald Trump invokes domestic politics during his trip to Paris.
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[11-Nov-18 10:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/watch-you-killed-my-son-cop-kills-unarmed-boy-in-courtroom-in-front-of-his-mom-no-charges/


[11-Nov-18 11:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
In the courtroom?


[11-Nov-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bbj63mrSU0

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Art House Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bbj63mrSU0
Justice for Waluigi: A Gateway Cause
For many, #JusticeForWaluigi has become an entry point for larger political projects. Turn your volume down Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Ar...
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[11-Nov-18 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
THE PIPELINE IS   R E A L


[12-Nov-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WseyrYuD8ao


[12-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/M2sdmpl.png

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Harris Rosen
https://i.imgur.com/M2sdmpl.png


[12-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
why can't this happen more often


[12-Nov-18 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."


[12-Nov-18 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
Babyboomers: “I’m chopping down this tree that my forefathers planted in order to flog the lumber whilst hoarding all the fruit for myself”


[12-Nov-18 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, where do you want me to start unpacking this from?


[12-Nov-18 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this side up ^


[12-Nov-18 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/2018/10/abyss-oc.jpg

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https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/2018/10/abyss-oc.jpg


[12-Nov-18 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/OisdFRGlK-Y

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The Partially Examined Life
https://youtu.be/OisdFRGlK-Y
Rick Roderick on Nietzsche and the Death of God [full length]
This video is 4th in the 8-part series, Nietzsche and the Postmodern Condition (1991). Lecture notes: I. Nietzsche looks to see what type of person makes par...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OisdFRGlK-Y/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Nov-18 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
A DRYING UP OF A WHOLE HORIZON OF MEANING


[12-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Louder than Love#5467

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[12-Nov-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/stZ6cGG.mp4

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https://imgur.com/stZ6cGG
https://i.imgur.com/stZ6cGGh.jpg


[12-Nov-18 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/11/666762890/after-nra-mocks-doctors-physicians-reply-this-is-our-lane

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After NRA Mocks Doctors, Physicians Reply: 'This Is Our Lane'
"We are not anti-gun: we are anti-bullet holes in our patients," wrote one physician in response to the NRA. Another posted a photo of his own scrubs, bloody from trying to save a gunshot victim.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/11/gettyimages-634622640_wide-987a6ff117fb2af804bd74f6dde7a33c8de55fc5.jpg?s=1400


[12-Nov-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Forgot planck times


[12-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://store.steampowered.com/app/719200/The_Wall/

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The Wall
The Wall is a strategic, multiplayer FPS game where the outcome of a match is defined by the player.One of the main elements of this game is the enormous wall itself, in the center of each map, dividing teams until it is either dug under, built over, or destroyed by players. ...
Price
$19.99
https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/719200/header.jpg?t=1541193073


[12-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
trump's game


[12-Nov-18 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULVfhfDr1A

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Brian McAllister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULVfhfDr1A
Unedited footage of Jim Acosta's press room assault
thank god the white house released the official, unaltered footage of Jim Acosta's disgusting attack. WHAT NOW LAME-STREAM-MEDIA?!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CULVfhfDr1A/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Nov-18 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-speaks-at-military-cemetery-without-umbrella-in-soaking-rain Trump get's flogged for skipping the memorial ceremony, reluctantly does it a day later because everyone roasted his ass over an open fire

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Trump speaks at military cemetery without umbrella in soaking rain
SURESNES, France — President Trump spoke without an umbrella during a cold, rainy Veterans Day ceremony in France.


[12-Nov-18 03:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A day too late.


[12-Nov-18 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[12-Nov-18 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have even less respect for him since this was just to avoid further backlash  instead of it being for the fallen soldiers


[12-Nov-18 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and after this i bet we're going to see a bunch of asshole tweets bragging about how he's the only one who cares about the soldiers


[12-Nov-18 04:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I am the best at caring for our troops. nobody cares more than me.- trump probably


[12-Nov-18 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his new excuse for friday is apparently now "i didnt want my motorcade to disrupt paris roadways"


[12-Nov-18 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-visit-us-cemetery-france-canceled-due-rain-052618229.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

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White House: Cemetery motorcade would have disrupted roads
PARIS (AP) — Stung by criticism for not attending an event honoring U.S. military dead, the White House says President Donald Trump didn't want to disrupt Paris roadways for a last-minute motorcade to a cemetery in northern France.
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[12-Nov-18 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/kr9frUB.jpg

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[12-Nov-18 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.alternet.org/white-house-confirms-trump-will-not-visit-arlington-cemetery-veterans-day

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White House confirms Trump will not visit Arlington cemetery on Ve...
The White House on Monday confirmed that President Donald Trump will not visit Arlington National Cemetery on Veteran’s Day.According to Washington Post correspondent Josh Dawsey, the White House announced “a lid” on presidential movements at 10 a.m. ET, meaning the p...
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[12-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-stop-counting-florida-votes-republicans-already-won

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Trump: Stop Counting Florida Votes, Republicans Already Won
The president suggested that Americans shouldn't trust the results unless his preferred candidates, Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis, win.
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[12-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Crow#5457
President Donald Trump demanded on Monday that Florida shut down its recount of last week’s election results, which is mandated under state law, and suggested that the final tally shouldn’t be trusted unless his preferred candidates are declared the winners.


[12-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061962869376540672

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061962869376540672
The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, and many ballots are missing or forged. An honest vote count is no longer possible-ballots massively infected. Must go with Election...
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[12-Nov-18 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just keeps getting worse and worse


[12-Nov-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/media/brexit-headlines-predict-catastrophe-theresa-may/index.html

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UK media say Brexit is becoming a catastrophe
"Deadlocked," "Titanic," "Failing," and "Life support." If you believe the British media, the United Kingdom is heading for a Brexit catastrophe.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181112085448-20181112-brexit-headline-montage-2-gfx-super-tease.jpg


[12-Nov-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
We've reached a point where Brexit is so bad that American news can just report on the state of UK news about it.


[12-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/416188-whitaker-saying-he-wont-cut-mueller-funding-report

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Whitaker saying he won’t cut Mueller funding: report
Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker has told associates that he won't reduce special counsel Robert Mueller's budget, as he previously suggested,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-whitaker_110818getty.jpg


[12-Nov-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously everytime i hear matthew whitaker's name i just hear jodie whittaker instead


[12-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nile#1441
I think Forest Whitaker


[12-Nov-18 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i blame doctor who


[12-Nov-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-reinventing-climate-activism/

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Pipeline Vandals Are Reinventing Climate Activism
Angry about climate change, activists shut down an oil pipeline in Minnesota—and then tried to convince a jury that their illegal actions were necessary.
https://media.wired.com/photos/5be5ad681023b959f353c09e/191:100/pass/Image%20from%20iOS.jpg


[12-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, the *point* was to get things to trial and get a jury to declare that actions to sabotage oil infrastructure *are legal*


[12-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it partially worked.


[12-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man speaking of something similar


[12-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so Nintendo decided really recently to crack down super hard on ROM sites


[12-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and sued the main guy


[12-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But settled before anything really went far


[12-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Nintendo's worry was that at trial people would basically say "wtf this shit is decades old and you aren't using it, get outta here"


[12-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Heh


[12-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing about these threats to sue to chill stuff


[12-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No I mean


[12-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
if someone actually fights the suit


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
it can lead towards a loss for the suing party


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
they had every right to sue and were in the right in theory


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
removing their ability to chill.


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were just worried about a judge/jury saying "Some ROMs are okay"


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ye


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It must have been a real threat too


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, these lawsuits aren't about actually winning


[12-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're about making it so expensive to fight that nobody plays


[12-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This wasn't a SLAPP suit


[12-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a Lanham Act thing


[12-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Nintendo's solution that they killed all these sites for


[12-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is three new NES games a month


[12-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what legal tool is at play


[12-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point is to chill things


[12-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's expensive to sue, it's cheap to send a C&D letter


[12-Nov-18 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm kind of tired of NES games


[12-Nov-18 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the basic point is copyright laws exist and if thye never use them thne thye lose the copyright


[12-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[12-Nov-18 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why mlp episodes were allowed onj youtube for awhile until thye werent


[12-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's trademarks


[12-Nov-18 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right


[12-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
other copyright is completely different


[12-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point of sending C&D letters is to make it so you don't get bad PR or anything


[12-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's mostly pointless


[12-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but third parties send the actual letters and get paid massively for it


[12-Nov-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they stoke their clients' fears to keep business


[12-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm dissapointed the switch online "bonus" is NES games and not evne the rare unusual ones


[12-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same common oens thye keep rereleasing


[12-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
liek atleast one of them could be earthbound zero


[12-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People want GCN games above all elese


[12-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the generation that is playing Switch a lot


[12-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh not sure the Switch is powerful enough to emulate the GCN


[12-Nov-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
n64 and game cube games please


[12-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want yoshi;s story on the switch


[12-Nov-18 11:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://thinkprogress.org/police-kill-black-security-guard-9927b7b9dc0f/

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Lindsay Gibbs
https://thinkprogress.org/police-kill-black-security-guard-9927b7b9dc0f
Police officer shoots and kills good guy with a gun
Jemel Roberson was a 26-year-old armed security guard who apprehended a shooter. He was also black
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/34435840_1541986574275990_r.jpeg?w=1200&h=720&crop=1


[12-Nov-18 11:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/12/they-basically-saw-black-man-with-gun-police-kill-armed-guard-after-responding-call/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.91bee7726d08


[12-Nov-18 11:25 PM] ononim#8141
*Protect and Serve*


[12-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Working as intended


[12-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
you arm the blakk guys to stop the terrorists


[12-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you shoot the blakks instead of the white terrorists


[12-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nile#1441
>thinkprogress


[12-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[12-Nov-18 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
>when you can't defuse the argument so you put its source in a box


[12-Nov-18 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
(even tho there is another one next to it not in a box)


[12-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not going to put WaPo "in a box", but you're damn right I'll put ThinkProgress in a box.


[12-Nov-18 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
The liberal agenda:
- Tax rich people
- Expand welfare
- Free healthcare
- Free college
- Shrink military spending
- Gun control

The conservative agenda:
- Cut taxes for the rich
- Cut programs for poor people
- Deny women rights
- Deny gay rights
- Deny non-christians rights
- Deny black people rights
- Label immigrants as terrorists


[12-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Nile#1441
Sounds good


[12-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
>trusting the police


[12-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
time to ban all the guns


[12-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:twismug:


[12-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Nile#1441
#bluelivesmatter


[12-Nov-18 11:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
not even joe bob with his police "training" can be trusted


[12-Nov-18 11:45 PM] ononim#8141
~~only problem I have with lib agenda acording to byte save for >trying to fix the system instead of dismantling it  is gun control~~


[12-Nov-18 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not enough Posadism


[13-Nov-18 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I just had a crazy idea based off of something california does with their supreme court justices


[13-Nov-18 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
california holds a vote the year after a justice is appointed where the people get to decide whether an appointed justice stays on the supreme court


[13-Nov-18 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
and a vote every 13 years onwards


[13-Nov-18 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if that could be applied at the national level as well


[13-Nov-18 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be chaos to be so often


[13-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
maybe move back the first vote to 4 years after appointed


[13-Nov-18 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Supreme_Court

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California Supreme Court
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[13-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
[In 2012], California received a score of -0.32. Based on the justices selected, California was the 14th most liberal court.


[13-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
considering that california is considered the "bastion" of liberalism in the US, that's a pretty surprising result


[13-Nov-18 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/nelson-charges-scott-undermining-florida-election-demands-he-recuse-himself-n935291

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Nelson charges Scott undermining Florida election, demands he recu...
The Democratic senator said his GOP rival is "using his power as governor to try to undermine the voting process."
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_46/2643391/181112-bill-nelson-rick-scott-florida-recount-election-cs-126p_08706d42705d5fa30c93326f0129cc7c.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[13-Nov-18 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/dow-jones-closes-down-almost-600-points-massive-market-selloff-n935391

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Dow plunges by more than 600 points in massive market sell-off
The morning's tech sector rout spread rapidly to other sectors as global trade fears combined with a stronger dollar to unsettle investors.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_46/2643526/181112-stock-exchange-market-economy-cs-310p_52f7bfe7dede8bb98e3d0e0a8b27010f.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[13-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/us/baraboo-high-school-nazi-salute-trnd/index.html

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A group of Wisconsin high schoolers posed in apparent Nazi salute ...
A photo showing a group of male, mostly white Wisconsin high school students with their arms raised in what appear to be Nazi salutes has sparked a district investigation and criticism from a Holocaust memorial group.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181112121839-01-baraboo-high-school-nazi-salute-trnd-111218-super-tease.jpg


[13-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGD5U6ck_Ew&t=4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGD5U6ck_Ew&t=4
Wisconsin teens appear to do Nazi salute in viral prom picture
A Wisconsin school district is investigating a photo showing a group of high school boys apparently making the Nazi salute. A school official denounced the i...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pGD5U6ck_Ew/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Nov-18 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
uncensored faces here


[13-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/12/cummings-pelosi-democrats-speaker-984948

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Cummings urges reluctant Dems to back Pelosi for speaker if she wi...
A slew of Democratic victors in last week's elections vowed to oppose Pelosi in a House floor vote.
https://static.politico.com/6a/61/bfd8aa544e57abbe81a20c65dbf2/181112-cummings-pelosi-gty-773.jpg


[13-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
nope.avi


[13-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
A slew of Democratic victors in last week's elections vowed to oppose Pelosi in a House floor vote, imperiling her bid for a second stint as speaker. But no alternative candidate has emerged yet, and Pelosi's allies are beginning to mount a forceful campaign suggesting that Pelosi's leadership and experience is necessary to guide the new Democratic majority.


[13-Nov-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[13-Nov-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not heard one good thing about pelosi


[13-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
she's incredibly divisive and patronizing


[13-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so she;s the with me or against me type


[13-Nov-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBpMPEJuS90

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Progressives So Wholesome, Corporates So Scared (Alexandria Ocasio...
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[13-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate that type of person


[13-Nov-18 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46187460

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US police kill black security guard 'hero'
An armed private security guard was killed by police after he detained a gunman, witnesses say.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/9CFD/production/_104298104_captusdf3252131324re.jpg


[13-Nov-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[13-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't even attempt to assess the situation


[13-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
they went in, saw black man with gun, shot and killed


[13-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope thye went in shoot first ask questions later


[13-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[13-Nov-18 02:23 AM] ononim#8141
SLowcrow


[13-Nov-18 02:23 AM] ononim#8141
But I guess bumping it is good


[13-Nov-18 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if hillary decides to run again first thign we need to do is purge the DNC and restaff it with new people. so we at least knwo they weren;t bought out pre-campaign


[13-Nov-18 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The only one that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun... until the cops show up.


[13-Nov-18 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is tragic and horrible though and i hope it gets dealt with swiftly against the cop who killed the guy without stopping to assess the situation first


[13-Nov-18 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but knowing past events liek this it probably wont and will be up int he air for months if not years


[13-Nov-18 02:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Paid vacation and then back on the force more likely.


[13-Nov-18 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[13-Nov-18 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thanks to jeff sessions, dealign with this bullshit is going to be even harder now since his last move was a big fuck you to america


[13-Nov-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Nov-18 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abcnews-go-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/special-counsel-witness-expects-charged-mueller-probe/story?id=59148352&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FPolitics%2Fspecial-counsel-witness-expects-charged-mueller-probe%2Fstory%3Fid%3D59148352

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Special counsel witness says he expects to be charged in Mueller probe
The former Infowars Washington bureau chief tells ABC News that the special counsel has now indicated he will be charged in within a matter of days.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/jerome-corsi-file-ap-jc-180921_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[13-Nov-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/us/conference-of-catholic-bishops-vatican/index.html

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Vatican orders US bishops to delay taking action on sexual abuse c...
The Vatican has told the US Conference of Catholic Bishops to delay voting on measures to hold bishops accountable for failing to protect children from sexual abuse, the president of the conference said in a surprise announcement Monday morning.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180831123334-catholic-bishops-tease-super-tease.jpg


[13-Nov-18 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like some fukkery to try to save face from the possible impacts of the reforms.


[13-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/416201-stacey-abrams-files-new-lawsuit-in-georgia-election

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Stacey Abrams files new lawsuit in Georgia election
Georgia Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams has filed a new lawsuit in her effort to force a runoff in the too-close-to-call election.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/abrams_stacey_essence_fest.jpg


[13-Nov-18 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/667214148/democrat-kyrsten-sinema-wins-arizona-senate-seat

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Democrat Kyrsten Sinema Wins Arizona Senate Race, Flipping Second ...
Sinema is the first woman Arizona has elected to the Senate ever, and the first Democrat the state elected to the chamber in 30 years. She'll make history as the first openly bisexual senator.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/12/gettyimages-1057018980_wide-19684d3794a8837fecb7f68786ac2d51a7eaacb6.jpg?s=1400


[13-Nov-18 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
I guess the Dems have... One more seat to flip in the Senate?


[13-Nov-18 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
If I'm reading this right.


[13-Nov-18 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
So, hope is on Florida and I think Georgia recounts...?


[13-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends how FL turns out


[13-Nov-18 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, we got a run off in Mississippi


[13-Nov-18 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP gains will be either +2 or +1 depending on FL


[13-Nov-18 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No wait, +2 or +3


[13-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Georgia is for governor


[13-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakk woman dem vs white man republican who was the official in charge of monitoring the election (and tossing out as many blakk votes as possible)


[13-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mississippi runoff will favor the Republican hard


[13-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is a matter of whether there's a problem with the machine counting


[13-Nov-18 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause the margin of victory is within that to force a manual recount


[13-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/11/12/657856033/retailers-plan-to-clear-deadly-paint-removers-from-shelves-as-epa-delays-ban

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Retailers Plan To Clear Deadly Paint Removers From Shelves, As EPA...
A chemical in common paint removal products is implicated in more than 50 deaths. Even though a federal ban has been delayed, some major retailers are voluntarily taking the products off shelves.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/08/gettyimages-957378548_wide-4c55d351c97f3b681a3d295d86b14d046fbcd8cf.jpg?s=1400


[13-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, after finding out this shit was SUPER toxic, the EPA set about banning it...then Trump and cronies set about making sure it didn't


[13-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Retailers and states now hav to fill in the gaps


[13-Nov-18 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Excuse me


[13-Nov-18 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
We use dichloromethane as a paint stripper because it's cheap and fast


[13-Nov-18 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The alternatives suck ass


[13-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cheap and fast is sometimes a bad idea when it's combined with "in your home"


[13-Nov-18 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
well can I at least get it if I ask specifically for it


[13-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think so, it can't be sold for home paint stripping etc.


[13-Nov-18 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I have used non-DCM paint strippers and they were absolutely awful and barely worked


[13-Nov-18 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
DCM reliably peeled up old latex paint


[13-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, is that worth the risk?


[13-Nov-18 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[13-Nov-18 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
because underneath this latex paint was lead paint


[13-Nov-18 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
and perhaps the only thing worse than airborne CCl2H2 is atomized Pb


[13-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, tho lead paint is less of a problem every year.


[13-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, the EU decided it was not worth the risk in 2009


[13-Nov-18 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I've actually inhaled a pretty sizeable amount of lead salts in the past year


[13-Nov-18 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Not intentionally


[13-Nov-18 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
It just happened


[13-Nov-18 06:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWqlabsRIP:


[13-Nov-18 08:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[13-Nov-18 09:17 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
You missed a panel with empty refrigerator in small 1 bedroom appartament with old tube tv


[13-Nov-18 10:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Nov-18 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/11/12/trump-is-telling-florida-ignore-military-ballots-happy-veterans-day/


[13-Nov-18 10:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/12/clinton-aide-2020-run-983684

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Former Clinton adviser says Hillary will run in 2020
Clinton said in an interview earlier this month that "I’d like to be president" after answering "no" when asked if she wanted to run again.
https://static.politico.com/de/6b/da501f454be8a3a43a4d63af8d2c/181112-hillary-clinton-gty-773.jpg


[13-Nov-18 10:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking dammit


[13-Nov-18 10:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Can she walk?


[13-Nov-18 10:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes?


[13-Nov-18 10:46 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
This was a shitty run/walk pun lol

I heard she can't about an year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQjxM6gV3WU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQjxM6gV3WU
Hillary can't walk
Hillary Clinton appears to be on her death bed. She's being help up and then carried and loaded into the van.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SQjxM6gV3WU/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Nov-18 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently this is coming from a rogue staff member so it;s still unclear if she;s running but given her trakc revord i still wouldnt be surprised if she did


[13-Nov-18 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Nov-18 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also trump with a beard looks better if not slightly villainous


[13-Nov-18 10:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Might be a good change of style.


[13-Nov-18 10:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real question is wether or not he can even grow facial hair


[13-Nov-18 10:51 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like a Kane

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[13-Nov-18 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Chicago has an entertainment tax? 💸


[13-Nov-18 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they do?


[13-Nov-18 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/chicagos-9-entertainment-tax-now-includes-playstation-vue/

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Chicago's 9% 'Entertainment Tax' Now Includes PlayStation Vue - Co...
Last weeked Sony started to contact PlayStation Vue subscribers in Chicago to inform them that they plan to collect the new 9% “Entertainment Tax” in Chicago. PlayStation Vue had already collected taxes in select states and towns. Now starting later this month PlayStat...
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[13-Nov-18 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh


[13-Nov-18 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt knwo this


[13-Nov-18 03:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[13-Nov-18 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t understand a damned word of this gibberish

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[13-Nov-18 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is implying that Germany is the real threat


[13-Nov-18 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
given that they do mostly politically dominate the EU, it does have a semblance of truth, but it's not like France doesn't have her say within the bloc


[13-Nov-18 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
germany's economy is so intrinsically tied to the EU now that germany being a military threat to france is like saying that the US is a military threat to canada


[13-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, technically it's true, but there's literally no reason for it to ever happen


[13-Nov-18 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
granted, in trump's mind, everyone not him is a competitor/opponent


[13-Nov-18 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
>germany ever being a military threat


[13-Nov-18 05:54 PM] Crow#5457
so the idea of two "others" existing without looking to one-up each other is so alien to him as to be incomprehensible gibberish


[13-Nov-18 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
heh


[13-Nov-18 05:55 PM] ononim#8141
Dismantling of Prussia Best Day of My Life


[13-Nov-18 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Prussia Delenda Est


[13-Nov-18 06:06 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, https://itsthetie.com/comic/washing-machine/

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[13-Nov-18 06:16 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[13-Nov-18 06:16 PM] ononim#8141
https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/105974490#p105991586

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/tv/ - you're not *actually* going to see this, right? - Televisio...
you're not *actually* going to see this, right? - "/tv/ - Television & Film" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of television and film.


[13-Nov-18 06:16 PM] ononim#8141
lord


[13-Nov-18 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
these people are really going for "NPC!" at the drop of the hat without any self awareness, eh?


[13-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All these people acting like anyone even played Detective Pikachu lmao


[13-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
>>1872182


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[13-Nov-18 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
who is ben shapiro, suddenly seeing his name everywhere


[13-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Arvid#8335
Hillary running is a god awful idea


[13-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Arvid#8335
She lost in 2016 to the most unlikable prick of all time, albeit just barely


[13-Nov-18 07:12 PM] Arvid#8335
@Crow The ultimate LIBTARD DESTROYER LOGIC LORD REP PILLED ALPHA MALE (facts > Feels)


[13-Nov-18 07:13 PM] Arvid#8335
He's a conservative pundit who's recently been getting popular


[13-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden/Warren


[13-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Arvid#8335
He has good charisma but his actual points aren't very good


[13-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren was technically completely right and fulfilled everything Trump wanted her to


[13-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She does in fact have an incredibly small amount of native blood


[13-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He put no caveat on amount or practice, only blood


[13-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He should pony up


[13-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh I really, really, _really_ want Musk to run


[13-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Arvid#8335
Why Elon Musk


[13-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got everything that he needs to be a successful candidate


[13-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
being a rich capitalist?


[13-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gives no fucks; has successful businesses; shitposts on Twitter; and is good meme fuel


[13-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the full package


[13-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd also take Bezos


[13-Nov-18 07:17 PM] Arvid#8335
I wouldn't support him personally, he's charming and has charisma, I won't lie, but his record on workers and union rights is not so good


[13-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wouldn't prefer Bezos; if we're meme celebrity shit now I'd take Cuban over him


[13-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are trying to push the CEOs of Apple or Disney as well


[13-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Arvid#8335
Yuck


[13-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I still think the Zuck wants it


[13-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
isn't there talk of beto running


[13-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
and that running against cruz was just for publicity points


[13-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Arvid#8335
I might as well run to be honest


[13-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Arvid#8335
Hit me up if you wanna be my running mate


[13-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/13/john-kelly-may-leave-after-clashing-with-the-first-lady-nbc-news.html

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John Kelly may leave after clashing with the first lady Melania Tr...
NBC's report followed a slew of news that Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen may be on her way out, too.
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[13-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure this is the most unstable cabinet in the history of the US


[13-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[13-Nov-18 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/hate-crimes-rose-17-percent-last-year-according-to-new-fbi-data/2018/11/13/e0dcf13e-e754-11e8-b8dc-66cca409c180_story.html


[13-Nov-18 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like Trump is... deporting all his advisors from his land.


[13-Nov-18 08:03 PM] Arvid#8335
Trump throws migrants under the bus even though a good chunk of his shit was built by underpaid migrants


[13-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Arvid#8335
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 *Y O U ' R E  F I R E D*


[13-Nov-18 08:04 PM] Arvid#8335
It would be funny if he got impeached just so we could tell Trump... "You're fired"


[13-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667435326/facing-defeat-maine-republican-sues-to-block-states-ranked-choice-voting-law

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https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667435326/facing-defeat-maine-republican-sues-to-block-states-ranked-choice-voting-law
In Tight Race, Maine Republican Sues To Block State's Ranked-Choic...
Rep. Bruce Poliquin's lawsuit claims the state's ranked-choice voting law violates the U.S. Constitution because the candidate who gets the most votes may not ultimately be declared the winner.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/13/ap_18297660712025_wide-49e835c2ddd373c32342bdda0a8aa240b5073a32.jpg?s=1400


[13-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[13-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
this is literally the best system for voting created to this date


[13-Nov-18 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not when you lose during one of the most politically charged time in the passed century, if because someone never stopped campaigning even after he won


[13-Nov-18 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
it hasn't even been decided who would win yet


[13-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
you have a list of candidates, order them from most preferred to least preferred, submit your ballot, candidate who wins the least number of majorities across the state districts gets knocked out, if it's your most preferred candidate, your vote will go to your next preferred candidate


[13-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
it'll go until someone receives a 50% majority


[13-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
or until 2 candidates are left and one wins


[13-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Litrojia#0612
Plus, shouldn't that stop the whining about third parties splitting the vote? Both parties do it


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
it allows for a theoretically unlimited number of parties running


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
without being forced to vote for the party most likely to win which you agree with


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
or vote against the party you disagree with


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Litrojia#0612
Less people would be discouraged from voting third party too, though probably not enough to make a difference


[13-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
which is how most US voting works


[13-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, he's a Republican


[13-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
don't you get it?


[13-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is a Republican and it is a superior form of voting.


[13-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
wtfing at this is like wtfing at fire being hot.


[13-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are able to win elections because they can abuse the badly-designed system to win even if they often get a minority of the actual votes


[13-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
in this particular case, Republicans want to be able to force only two real choices (thereby removing moderates) while also splitting the vote non-transferavly so that if a moderate does run, it hurts Democrats


[13-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV leads to moderates winning more often


[13-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
That's definitely what's going on in this case


[13-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
which greatly hurts the Republican party.


[13-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because their current party makeup is far-right


[13-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, with IRV for the presidential, Bernie could've ran third-party *and won*


[13-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would've tossed all his money into taking Bernie down if that were the case.


[13-Nov-18 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
States switching to IRV is possibly the greatest existential threat to the Republican party right now


[13-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'd like to see it put into practice where I'm from, though the Democrats have pretty comfortable control at the state level and have no need to change it


[13-Nov-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV fixes Democrat's main issue


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voters strongly prefer most Democrat policies


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
much more than they prefer Democrats themselves


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
the republicans would split up into two, maybe three parties at the most


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
again, this is because Democrats are less white, masculine, etc.


[13-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
the democrats could easily split up into 10+ parties


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big worry isn't party splitting


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so like, Gillum vs Desantis


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gillum is blakk


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say Florida had IRV


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
I'm talking about putting into effect a national IRV system


[13-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Dems could've run both Gillum and a white guy


[13-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racist voters who prefer Dem policy then would vote White dem > Desantis > Gillum


[13-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk Dems would vote Gillum > White dem > Desantis


[13-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And some Dems who just don't care about race would vote White dem > Gillum > Desantis or the above


[13-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notice that White Dem is ranked above Desantis in all these


[13-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some Blakk Republicans would even vote Gillum > Desantis > White dem, which could make things interesting


[13-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
but overall


[13-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
White dem probably wins


[13-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
whereas without his presence, Desantis wins because of the bloc that votes White dem > Desantis > Gillum


[13-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is what happened


[13-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is an existential threat to a party that campaigns based off of saying the other guy is a blakk and blakks are bad


[13-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/world/europe/britain-eu-brexit-deal.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/world/europe/britain-eu-brexit-deal.html
Britain and E.U. Agree on a Plan for Brexit
The draft agreement is being reviewed by Conservative cabinet members before a full meeting on Wednesday.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/14/world/14brexit/14brexit-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[13-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems and Republicans make ads differently


[13-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
liberals respond to sympathy for the suffering etc.


[13-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives respond to fear and hatred towards those scary OTHERS


[13-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
As part of that, Republican ads are more likely to ad hominem the opponent


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that so and so Dem is just Nancy Pelosi


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that they're a threat and such


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
I saw a handful of Dem attack ads going into the midterms


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
With multiple opponent candidates


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
though from PACs I think


[13-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is near impossible to do attakk ads at any individual one


[13-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a waste of money to target 1 out of 3 guys


[13-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
additionally, some of your opponents will be similar to you


[13-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so you may hav to attakk something you did too to attakk them


[13-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
thus


[13-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
the preferred strategy is to mainly run ads saying your platform is good


[13-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
with attakks saved mostly for a large platform on the other side and specific big threats


[13-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That creates a more civil campaign that favors Democrats


[13-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Since Dems already talk big on helping people etc.


[13-Nov-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, IRV crushes Republicans.


[13-Nov-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It destroys essentially every aspect of how they win


[13-Nov-18 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even at the  level of social media going off about libtards, with IRV you end up with more moderate liberals in office that don't support the more stupid shit


[13-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/666595118/a-third-rail-no-more-incoming-house-democrats-embrace-gun-control

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https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/666595118/a-third-rail-no-more-incoming-house-democrats-embrace-gun-control
A Third Rail No More: Incoming House Democrats Embrace Gun Control
Dozens of Democratic candidates who ran in competitive suburban House districts this election year bluntly called out the need for more gun control. And many of them won.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/12/ap_18311190229753_wide-e44e2c60ccb32520fd2d72e881c6c2062a80959c.jpg?s=1400


[13-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that Dems campaigning on gun control won is a surprise


[13-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
but here's the bigger deal


[13-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA went after Rick Scott and a few other Republicans that did gun control


[13-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And those Republicans still won


[13-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA was neither able to stop anti-gun Dems nor punish anti-gun Republicans


[13-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And for the first time, gun control beat gun rights in spending


[13-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA rmay hav just become politically irrelevant


[13-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hey bro, want to trade my unionized deplorable rural shot-and-a beer guy for your white, Ellen-watching, wine-sipping suburban woman?"


[13-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sure, bro"- A dialogue between the Democrats and GOP


[13-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/13/police-chicago-security-guard-jemel-roberson-shooting-death-robbins-midlothian/1990496002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/13/police-chicago-security-guard-jemel-roberson-shooting-death-robbins-midlothian/1990496002
Police chief praises security guard killed by his cop: 'Jemel Robe...
Police in suburban Chicago Tuesday called the controversial shooting death of a black security guard by a white police officer a “tragic incident."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/11/13/USAT/b5d53aab-472a-4713-a400-c56bb89a738a-jemel_roberson.JPG?crop=1795,1023,x0,y83&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[13-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
>guard killed for being black by cops


[13-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
>police chief praises bravery as distraction


[13-Nov-18 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
"He was a good man. Excuse me as we don't allow for or perform any serious investigation."


[13-Nov-18 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/health/cancer-surpasses-heart-disease-study/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/health/cancer-surpasses-heart-disease-study/index.html
Cancer surpasses heart disease as leading cause of death in many U...
An important transition is happening across the United States: Cancer was the leading cause of death in more counties in 2015 than 13 years earlier, a new study finds. However, the opposite was true for heart disease during that period; fewer counties reported it as the top k...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180822174520-cancer-mama-origen-genetico-mutacion-azaret-vive-la-salud-00010223-super-tease.jpg


[13-Nov-18 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, cancer is going to overtake heart disease mostly because people can't get all these really good expensive cancer treatments


[13-Nov-18 11:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/09/cuba-has-lung-cancer-vaccine-many-u-s-patients-cant-get-without-breaking-law/1019093001/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/09/cuba-has-lung-cancer-vaccine-many-u-s-patients-cant-get-without-breaking-law/1019093001
Cuba has a lung cancer vaccine. Many U.S. patients can’t get it ...
President Trump’s tightened travel  to Cuba makes it harder to go there. Some U.S. cancer patients say they have no other options.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f8cdc1247de94889f4b71c913228df6e9cd4a492/c=0-61-1200-739/local/-/media/2018/01/09/USATODAY/USATODAY/636511223378741367-1-JYEb5mruX4fN5CaHQv5-7A.jpeg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[13-Nov-18 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Why don't you go to Cuba, you commie?"


[13-Nov-18 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-18 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's be buddies with Cuba again.


[13-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
“People with stage 4 cancer, like me, should be allowed to try whatever they want to stay alive, whatever they think will work. The last thing they need is the government on your neck over some archaic regulation saying just take what is available here and die.”


[13-Nov-18 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's just go, "Yo, we sorry for that Cold War bullshit. Can we be gucci?"


[13-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a freedom-based argument against gov't overreach in the form of protectionism


[13-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the stuff that blows the Republican party wide open


[13-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
didn't hugo chavez die due to an infection he picked up in a cuban hospital


[13-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
American hospitals actually are on average incredibly filthy


[13-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
many hospitals don't hav proper hand-washing procedures


[13-Nov-18 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Chavez had advanced stage colon cancer


[13-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
he died from pneumonia he got while at the hospital in cuba


[13-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
his cancer had metastasized by that point though


[13-Nov-18 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
No, if I'm reading this right he was seeking treatment for Cancer, where he did go to Cuba, but pneumonia wasn't really the cause of death. If anything, chemo may have weakened his immune system but that's par for the course with chemo, which obliterates the body's immune system


[13-Nov-18 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, then it could be an argument against the embargo, not Cuba's healthcare system


[13-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/13/trump-north-korea-missile-bases-987141

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/13/trump-north-korea-missile-bases-987141
Trump says he knows about North Korea's hidden missile bases
President calls New York Times report "fake news."
https://static.politico.com/f8/f0/2d51fdd14fed8d7d3bf0638ba086/181113-trump-gty-773.jpg


[13-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
article name could be "rain is wet" and still not be as captain obvious as that one


[13-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
President Donald Trump claimed on Tuesday that his administration is aware of more than a dozen ballistic missile bases in North Korea, labeling a New York Times report on those sites "inaccurate" and "more fake news."


[13-Nov-18 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46193818

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46193818
You can't copyright taste, top court rules
Court of Justice was asked to rule in a copyright case involving two Dutch cream cheese products.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11526/production/_104305907_cheese3getty.jpg


[13-Nov-18 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
lmao what


[13-Nov-18 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
how would you even begin to copyright taste


[13-Nov-18 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
literally every person on the planet tastes the same thing differently


[13-Nov-18 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
even if people can agree on the general description of the taste, there's always slight variances in how people actually perceive the taste


[14-Nov-18 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/13/andrew-johnson-undermined-congress-cabinet-david-priess-book-222413

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/13/andrew-johnson-undermined-congress-cabinet-david-priess-book-222413
How a Difficult, Racist, Stubborn President Was Removed From Power...
Members of Congress and some in Andrew Johnson’s own Cabinet wanted him gone. They did the next best thing.
https://static.politico.com/0b/fa/b4535f0e4407856c399847d36be8/181112-priess-johnson-wikimedia.jpg


[14-Nov-18 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, it took a wholly-northen, unified congress to keep Andrew Johnson from destroying Reconstruction


[14-Nov-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South has always been the problem


[14-Nov-18 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-macron-european-army.html

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-macron-european-army.html
Trump Is Mad at Macron for Trying to Do Exactly What Trump Wants
No, France isn't building a European army to fight America.
https://compote.slate.com/images/543bae84-313c-4e4f-a231-5dd2569cf45d.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=6396x4264&offset=24x0


[14-Nov-18 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wanted them to buy mroe weaposn from america but isntead they did what he asked at face value and built their own army


[14-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Hasbro successfully get protection for the smell of Play Doh


[14-Nov-18 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i think thye got protection for the ingredients of play doh


[14-Nov-18 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which give off that smell


[14-Nov-18 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did thye get sued for the smell?


[14-Nov-18 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/18/17369226/hasbro-play-doh-smell-trademarked

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/18/17369226/hasbro-play-doh-smell-trademarked
Hasbro just trademarked the smell of Play-Doh
Your Etsy business for nostalgia-scented candles just got a whole lot more expensive
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FNNv3S1jaR9OqzS0oWTNcWkywKM=/0x204:3000x1775/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10879703/2465708.jpg.jpg


[14-Nov-18 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope you were right


[14-Nov-18 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that seems excessive


[14-Nov-18 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46194532

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46194532
Cameroon drops fake news charges
Anglophone TV editor Mimi Mefo Takambo had shared reports that soldiers killed a US missionary.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/16D6E/production/_104305539_mediaitem104305538.jpg


[14-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Andrew Johnson was the worst


[14-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Nobody liked him


[14-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
whoops, misread as Jackson first


[14-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Jackson beat the British in New Orleans


[14-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
So of course we made him President


[14-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Andrew Jackson would probably kick Trump’s ass for comparing himself to him


[14-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like two weeks after the war ended lmao


[14-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jackson threatened to hang rebels himself


[14-Nov-18 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/latino/416488-top-mexican-party-official-says-trump-will-attend-presidential-inauguration

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https://thehill.com/latino/416488-top-mexican-party-official-says-trump-will-attend-presidential-inauguration
Top Mexican party official says Trump will attend presidential ina...
The leader of Mexico's ruling party said Tuesday that President Trump will attend Mexican President-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador's inauguration next month.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpobrador_111318getty.jpg


[14-Nov-18 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh i;m sorry he can;t make it that day, it might rain


[14-Nov-18 02:12 AM] ononim#8141
https://66.media.tumblr.com/afda5489df90532552e008d41f7cb86d/tumblr_phzzu6siQx1vwsax2o1_640.png

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[14-Nov-18 02:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nobody knew federal funding would be this hard.


[14-Nov-18 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is the president even held this ceremony to present the secretary of forest management with a giant severely reduced check


[14-Nov-18 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he wonders why forest management cant do it;s fuckign job


[14-Nov-18 02:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
1 million dollars is a small lone to trump but only when it is going to trump. If it goes to anyone else it's **yuge** and a waste.


[14-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
He wasn't given $1m lol


[14-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
He was given way more than that


[14-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump has lied about his wealth and has likely been involved in money laundering


[14-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
the actual amount was $26 million iirc


[14-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[14-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
He's not a billionaire


[14-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
It's more likely he's worth a few hundred million


[14-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean it'd explain why his casino failed


[14-Nov-18 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his casino also failed because he tried to use a fake school to pay for it and people got wise real fast


[14-Nov-18 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of his business are also built on top of crime rings, which unsurprisingly is unstable as fuck as a business standard


[14-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol yeah


[14-Nov-18 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11cQXL5dJw

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Big Joel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11cQXL5dJw
The Existential Horror of Logan Paul: A Video Essay
Hey everybody, in this video I decided to do a deep dive into the vlogging career of Logan Paul. When I first saw Logan's suicide forest video, there was jus...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T11cQXL5dJw/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-Nov-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
logan paul for president 2495?


[14-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Yuri#4154
I actually just finished watching one of Shaun's videos


[14-Nov-18 03:28 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Don’t give him any ideas


[14-Nov-18 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lorgan forgal for prawsnident 2995


[14-Nov-18 03:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He will treat illegals like he treats mice.


[14-Nov-18 03:37 AM] Mikey#7286
Holy shit @Kiryu-Chan I never see you post in this server 😛


[14-Nov-18 03:42 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I lurk all the time, I just don’t post that much :p


[14-Nov-18 03:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[14-Nov-18 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Logan Paul 2040


[14-Nov-18 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why vote for the lesser evil?


[14-Nov-18 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still won't be the worst time an American president has had in Japan


[14-Nov-18 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of which are we going to allow Japan an army again ever or nah


[14-Nov-18 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only if Russia gets antsy


[14-Nov-18 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh Japan should have all of Sakhalin


[14-Nov-18 03:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
SDF are pretty well funded. They could be very defensively offensive if need be.


[14-Nov-18 04:19 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
"his casino also failed because he tried to use a fake school to pay for it and people got wise real fast" wait WHAT? Hmmmmmm that sounds familiar


[14-Nov-18 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

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Trump University
Trump University (also known as the Trump Wealth Institute and Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC) was an American for-profit education company that ran a real estate training program from 2005 until 2010. It was owned and operated by The Trump Organization. (A separate organi...


[14-Nov-18 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when Flim and Flam were just Trixie-tier villains who really weren't all that bad until pressed? Ah, simpler times when the president wasn't an MLP villain.


[14-Nov-18 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

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politizane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
Wealth Inequality in America
Infographics on the distribution of wealth in America, highlighting both the inequality and the difference between our perception of inequality and the actua...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QPKKQnijnsM/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-Nov-18 08:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Haha,google wealth inequality in russia


[14-Nov-18 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/mcconnell-received-3-5m-in-campaign-donations-from-russian-oligarch-linked-firm-93UjehU6aUCtejJRBFezCw/

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McConnell Received $3.5M In Campaign Donations From Russian Oligar...
Len Blavatnik donated $3.5 million to Mitch McConnell's PAC from 2015 to 2017.
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[14-Nov-18 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is such a surprise, surely ol'mitch would never commit this level of treason


[14-Nov-18 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-november-13-2018-1.4902679/indigenous-women-kept-from-seeing-their-newborn-babies-until-agreeing-to-sterilization-says-lawyer-1.4902693?fbclid=IwAR2dVwqliBdhoVQMMIdyU4-jTn_RrxJ4N_CVpKyFvz4f_oyrS_5A9aCs-ek

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Indigenous women kept from seeing their newborn babies until agree...
At least 60 Indigenous women are pursuing a lawsuit alleging they were sterilized against their will, as recently as last year. Is there an issue of systemic racism within Canada's healthcare system?
https://i.cbc.ca/1.3382542.1452873395!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/royal-university-hospital-in-saskatoon.JPG


[14-Nov-18 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wtf, Canada


[14-Nov-18 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/nra-publishes-tips-for-staying-safe-while-committing-a-1830418497

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NRA Publishes Tips For Staying Safe While Committing A Mass Shooting
FAIRFAX, VA—Citing its longtime commitment to the promotion of safety among firearm enthusiasts, the National Rifle Association published a series of pointers Tuesday on how to keep safe while carrying out a mass shooting. “Every gun owner should know the NRA’s fundamen...
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[14-Nov-18 04:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
*writes down* hmm good tips


[14-Nov-18 05:32 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/200065778047909888/512296828746858496/46140020_10155912022873479_6543682829245480960_n.png

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[14-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'd call the privatized police force on him


[14-Nov-18 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.wowktv.com/news/national/-maga-building-blocks-for-sale-encourages-kiddos-to-build-the-wall-/1593993227

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'MAGA building blocks' for sale encourages kiddos to 'build the wall'
A new kids toy is causing some controversy after announcement of its release, and it hasn't even been shipped out yet!
https://media.wowktv.com/nxs-wowktv-media-us-east-1/photo/2018/11/13/_MAGA_building_blocks__for_sale_encourag_0_62072135_ver1.0_1280_720.jpg


[14-Nov-18 05:56 PM] DevField#5162
🤔


[14-Nov-18 05:57 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I thought this was The Onion a second there


[14-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Yuri#4154
"I will build a great wall"
- Mei 2016


[14-Nov-18 05:58 PM] DevField#5162
The devil herself


[14-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Yuri#4154
Mei is bae

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[14-Nov-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the NRA article isan onion article


[14-Nov-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a moment i thought it was real


[14-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.thisisinsider.com/trump-fuming-angry-after-midterms-and-ditching-planned-outings-2018-11

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Trump is still fuming over the midterms and has ditched several ou...
Disappointment over the elections has led President Trump to skip several ceremonies honoring veterans.
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[14-Nov-18 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i can only see his ditching planned events gettign worse and worsae from here on out while he focuses entirely on keeping power and not actually using it


[14-Nov-18 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll use it here and there but most of a president;s power coems form the work they do and right now he just isnt doing any work


[14-Nov-18 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d72jFpKHOEw

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Zero Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d72jFpKHOEw
Tucker Carlson Won't Divide the Working Class
Support Zero Books on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zerobooks Subscribe: http://bit.ly/SubZeroBooks Responding to Tucker Carlson’s Prager U video Illegal ...
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[14-Nov-18 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[14-Nov-18 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/14/mitch-mcconnell-wrote-an-op-ed-calling-bipartisanship-people-are-not-having-it


[14-Nov-18 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit mitch you fucking turtle


[15-Nov-18 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[15-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Nile#1441
Bipartisanship in modern America? Good luck.


[15-Nov-18 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/devos-sued-for-allegedly-failing-to-comply-with-judge%E2%80%99s-order-to-cancel-student-debt/ar-BBPG5wB

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DeVos sued for allegedly failing to comply with judge’s order to...
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos was sued Tuesday for allegedly failing to cancel student debt for people whose for-profit colleges have shut down. Last month a court ruled that the Obama-era debt regulations had to be implemented after over a year of delays by DeVos. DeVos ...


[15-Nov-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a24937412/trump-presidential-medal-of-freedom-adelson/

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Trump is Giving the President Medal of Freedom to One of the GOP...
Miriam Adelson, the wife of casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson, will join Babe Ruth and Elvis Presley in receiving the honor.
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[15-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-endorses-bipartisan-criminal-justice-reform-bill/2018/11/14/9be8f926-e84c-11e8-bd89-eecf3b178206_story.html


[15-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So tl;dr


[15-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans think it's kinda okay if we cut mandatory minimums by like 30% and turn the third strike for drug felonies into 25 years minimum instead of life


[15-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and suuuuure let's retroactively apply the slightly reduced but still different because FUKK BLAKKY BLAKKS sentencing reforms on cocaine from 2010, now that it likely won't help really anyone


[15-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but oh no, we can't apply these changes retroactively too, that'd actually help blakk people right now


[15-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
also let's make opioid sentencing harsher


[15-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this is what actual bipartisanship looks like right now


[15-Nov-18 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans decide we should *only* put blakks in jail for *three fifths of* their lives and Democrats cry silently, then ask for it to be retroactive, and get told hell no


[15-Nov-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Three fifths


[15-Nov-18 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
How poetic


[15-Nov-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works with provisional ballots too


[15-Nov-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
55% get counted in Georgia


[15-Nov-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
just under three fifths


[15-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And provisional ballots are what blakk people hav to use to vote because of the exact match law, and they only get that much after a court order


[15-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/world/europe/uk-cabinet-may-brexit.html

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By STEPHEN CASTLE
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/world/europe/uk-cabinet-may-brexit.html
U.K. Cabinet Backs Theresa May’s Brexit Plan
In a rare victory, the prime minister held her party in line. Now, she faces the much tougher task of getting the plan through Parliament.
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[15-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
'British critics of the deal argue that it represents the worst of all worlds, leaving Britain tied, perhaps in perpetuity, to many European Union rules over which it would have no influence — the direct opposite of the Brexit slogan of the 2016 referendum, which promised to “take back control.”'


[15-Nov-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the tl;dr is


[15-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brexiting so softly that it's not even an audible political fart


[15-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No hard border, stays in the customs union for untilwecanleave years, just the UK loses its votes in the EU in exchange for not paying for membership anymore


[15-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[15-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second referendum is likely


[15-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if it doesn't happen, oh well, Brexit basically just means the UK voted to lose voting power LUL


[15-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
This is what happens when you don’t have an empire


[15-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:twismug:


[15-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
UK is not a big boy superpower anymore


[15-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
So leaving the EU was going to be a bad deal for them lul


[15-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
UK will be the EU's bitch for like 20 years


[15-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll eventually want bakk in, at which point "okay, but giv up your currency and apply VAT like we do, and also no coal or oil PERIOD"


[15-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the UK will be like "but but we were a founding member! You let Finland keep its oil!"


[15-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the EU will be like "tuff shit bitch, you left."


[15-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the UK could actually leave the customs union (and ruin its economy) and put up a border wall in Ireland, but well, *Tiocfaidh ár lá*


[15-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has played itself.


[15-Nov-18 02:21 AM] ononim#8141
Greater Wales when


[15-Nov-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Norwegian invasion of England when?


[15-Nov-18 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Row boats full of red haired Nordic men row up to the British and Scottish eastern coast. The British, now a year out of Brexit are so economically depressed can not afford the men to defend their coast. A militia is raised, but all they're armed with are hunting shotguns with bird shot only effective at ten feet. The vast Scandinavean hordes mount their shores and begin looting Tescos across the nation.


[15-Nov-18 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Huddled masses hide in the corners of the local Greggs, as the strong Norwegian visitors politely loot the counter.


[15-Nov-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Worst of all someone tips over a trash can and that moment becomes a rallying call


[15-Nov-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thatcher never tipped over trash bins


[15-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, they're armed with butter knives and electric tea kettles


[15-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police hav assault rifles, but someone lost all the keys to their cases in the mail because they couldn't afford competent workers


[15-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Northern Ireland has fallen in the chaos to the power of the riverdance.


[15-Nov-18 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, NornIron is the only place with competent open warfare as the Irish mafia and Republican supporters begin to throw AR-15s at the island.


[15-Nov-18 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the glorious communist revolution for the anglosphere begins there.


[15-Nov-18 02:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think that it is a good thing that the UK is still in the EU but does not get a say in what happens because it seems like every shit rule to come out of the EU was mainly by the UK.


[15-Nov-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed


[15-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
might teach the brits a damn lesson.


[15-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you trust a country that once had brownouts because everyone flicked the kettle on at the same time?

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[15-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is messed up on so many levels https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/nyregion/man-found-dead-in-car-new-york.html

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By MICHAEL WILSON
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/nyregion/man-found-dead-in-car-new-york.html
His Body Was Behind the Wheel for a Week Before It Was Discovered....
A software designer ended his life in his parked car in the East Village. His family asked the police for help finding him, but met resistance.
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[15-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, old guy was laid off by software company, couldn't get rehired, took on a new name, but still was unable to find work, eventually killed himself after giving his family incredibly obvious hints


[15-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they went to police, police told them they wouldn't bother looking cause he wasn't a city resident


[15-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the time somebody noticed a guy had sat in a car dead for days, it had been a week.


[15-Nov-18 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Fucking cops


[15-Nov-18 04:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
shit sounds like a CSI episode bound to happen


[15-Nov-18 04:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm trying to imagine what pun Horatio Caine would come up with before the title screen


[15-Nov-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Looks like he...hit a dead end"

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[15-Nov-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
*YEAAAAAAAAAH*


[15-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/upshot/why-prescription-drug-spending-higher-in-the-us.html

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By AUSTIN FRAKT
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/upshot/why-prescription-drug-spending-higher-in-the-us.html
Something Happened to U.S. Drug Costs in the 1990s
Two decades ago, the costs began rising well beyond that of other nations, and in recent years have shot up again. What can explain it?
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[15-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, lots of new drug patents giving monopolies to companies and no laws to try to counteract the prices


[15-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/14/cuba-doctors-brazil-withdraw-jair-bolsonaro

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Cuba to pull doctors out of Brazil after President-elect Bolsonaro...
Bolsonaro demands changes to contracts and questions training of 11,420 Cuban doctors who work in poor and remote parts of Brazil
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[15-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
"The far-right Bolsonaro, who takes office on 1 January, said in an interview this month that the 11,420 Cuban doctors working in poor and remote parts of Brazil could only stay if they received 100% of their pay and their families could join them."


[15-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
if who received 100% of whose pay?


[15-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
I assume the doctor's pay


[15-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't Cuba have that secret socialism success sauce or something


[15-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like some of the most successful medical doctors/low poverty/high amounts of scientific discovery


[15-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives say that hugo chavez died from an infection he got from surgery in cuba and that cuba is an irrelevant, poverty-striken dictatorship


[15-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't he have terminal cancer?


[15-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, stage 4


[15-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
he would've died either way, but he died from pneumonia


[15-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
which isn't an infection you get from surgery


[15-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
immune system is suppressed by chemotherapy, allowing pneumonia to take hold


[15-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-cuba-venezuela-dictator-castro-0905-story.html

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Where is the world's outrage over Cuba's dictatorship?
Why isn't the world outraged over Cuba's dictatorship?
https://www.trbimg.com/img-59adfa6b/turbine/ct-perspec-cuba-venezuela-dictator-castro-0905


[15-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
this is from 2017, before trump shut down travel to cuba


[15-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cuba basically spends a ton of money on having good healthcare


[15-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
since healthcare is one of the things socialism totally works for


[15-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Makes for nice PR when Cuba can treat 9/11 first responders cheaply that the US refused to pay for treatments for


[15-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
(eventually an act was indeed signed to provide care to them, but years late)


[15-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To a lesser degree this reminds me of an Onion article


[15-Nov-18 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Pity the poor people of Luxembourg, living under an unelected monarchy"


[15-Nov-18 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
Most foreign diplomats say Cuba can't be compared with Venezuela because the island has been the victim of a decadeslong U.S. trade embargo, which has predisposed the international community against any criticism of its regime. And unlike Venezuela, Cuba is not a signatory of the Organization of American States' Democratic Charter, which commits member countries to respect the rule of law.


[15-Nov-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/steve-king-vehemently-denies-comparing-immigrants-to-pe-1830417098

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Steve King Vehemently Denies Comparing Immigrants To People
WASHINGTON—Challenging any insinuation that he would ever say anything of the kind, Representative Steve King (R-IA) vehemently denied Tuesday comparing immigrants to people. “I would never, under any circumstances, say something so despicable,” said King, who was recen...
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[15-Nov-18 12:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/04/south-korea-spycam-protests-swell-women-object-illegal-secretive/

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South Korea spycam protests swell as women object to illegal secre...
Tens of thousands of South Korean women on Saturday protested against secretly-filmed spycam pornography as anger over the issue swells, prompting national soul-searching.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/08/04/TELEMMGLPICT000170944964-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg


[15-Nov-18 12:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/thousands-south-korean-women-protest-against-spy-cam-porn-n889571

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Thousands of South Korean women protest against 'spy cam porn'
"Here's my message to men: I am not an object of our sexual desires! I am a first-rate citizen, just like you!" one protester shouted.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_27/2490046/180707-south-korea-spy-cam-porn-protest-al-1136_a8010914981db47747e1229524cccd23.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[15-Nov-18 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a thing?


[15-Nov-18 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck?


[15-Nov-18 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that soudns like it should count as illegal


[15-Nov-18 03:09 PM] ononim#8141
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[15-Nov-18 03:12 PM] Primarina#3120
"Your horse could face an even greater danger"


[15-Nov-18 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[15-Nov-18 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda wanna hear his explanation as to why having no interaction with computers ever, makes him a competent cyber security minister


[15-Nov-18 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/058c5f727bab45be9372110fbba9c07a

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Federal judge: Florida is 'laughing stock of the world'
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — A federal judge slammed Florida on Thursday for repeatedly failing to anticipate election problems, and said the state law on recounts appears to violate the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that decided the presidency in 2000. "We have we have been the la...
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[15-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
South Korea is the country that requires cameras make noise when taking pictures


[15-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
because there's a huge market for upskirting there etc.


[15-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's really dumb


[15-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, "the world is laughing at us, we've got to shut this down!" is classic conservative thinking.


[15-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, like, it doesn't matter if we get things super wrong, what counts is that we pretended to hav our shit together.


[15-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
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[15-Nov-18 09:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[15-Nov-18 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/florida-ruling-mismatching-signatures.html

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Federal Judge Trolls Marco Rubio, Rules Florida Must Let Voters Co...
Election officials have rejected between 4,000 and 5,000 ballots on the basis of amateur handwriting analysis.
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[15-Nov-18 09:15 PM] Nile#1441
>gnosticist
>chad


[15-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/two-navy-seals-two-marines-charged-murder-green-beret-n936736

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Two Navy SEALs, two Marines charged in murder of Green Beret
Army Staff Sgt. Logan Melgar was strangled in Mali in June 2017.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_46/2428621/180510-logan-melgar-se-609p_302f872fef3e5f31e18cec92d88fbfe9.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[15-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[15-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-restricts-all-flavored-e-cigarettes-moves-ban-menthol-n936471

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Teen vaping up 78 percent and FDA gets tougher
The menthol ban will have tremendous impact, advocacy groups say.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_46/2563526/180912-vaping-e-cig-california-njs-1043_f002a9b70c9ae612aeec32b9db988f4a.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[15-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Nile#1441
Why don't people just stop smoking


[15-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Nile#1441
Filthy habit


[15-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think this is entirely the wrong move by the FDA


[15-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Vaping promises a way to get people off the incredibly dangerous carcinogens into pretty much pure nicotine


[15-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
which may still hav problems, but is a huuuuuge harm reduction


[15-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nile#1441
If I was an autocrat I would have banned cigarettes yesterday.


[15-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And instead of restricting how poisonous cigarettes can be, it's BAN THE FLAVORING


[15-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause they think the problem is kids getting addicted


[15-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, the problem is incredibly addictive shit that ruins your lungs for life


[15-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Nile#1441
Which is why I don't like any kind of smoking.


[15-Nov-18 09:28 PM] ononim#8141
>still sucking Yaldabaoth cock


[15-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Cigarette smoke makes me nauseous


[15-Nov-18 09:32 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/laura_hudson/status/1063151101229187072?s=21

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Laura Hudson (@laura_hudson)
https://twitter.com/laura_hudson/status/1063151101229187072?s=21
Alt-right pizzagater Jack Posobiec wrote Trump/Sansa fanfic and here it is I'm sorry https://t.co/bkk4QHNJ8M
Twitter


[15-Nov-18 09:32 PM] ononim#8141
>defiling Starks with Trump
>or any Yank politicans whatsoever
ANDALS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


[15-Nov-18 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGy_StiU7yo

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BadMouseProductions
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Taxation is Theft?
Answer? Yes, but nah. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Badmouse Twitter: https://twitter.com/BadMouse101 Sources: https://newint.org/features/2015/12/01/priv...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tGy_StiU7yo/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Nov-18 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
FDA is moronic


[16-Nov-18 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutors-set-make-announcement-case-jersey-couple-raised/story?id=59215607

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GoFundMe campaign to help homeless vet was 'predicated on a lie,' ...
Prosecutors have been investigating a couple who raised money for homeless vet Johnny Bobbitt.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/GMA/kate-mcclure-johnny-bobbitt-1-abc-jt-171126_hpMain_9_16x9_992.jpg


[16-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
jesus


[16-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
$400k gofundme was 100% a scam


[16-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
literally nothing in the story was true


[16-Nov-18 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/14/18095005/army-esports-team-recruitment-fortnite-overwatch-league-of-legends

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The US Army wants to attract more soldiers by fielding a Fortnite team
New esports initiative also includes League of Legends, PUBG and Overwatch
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[16-Nov-18 12:31 AM] ononim#8141

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[16-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/criminal-charges-case-teen-died-van-calling-911/story?id=59215644

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No criminal charges in case of teen crushed to death in van after ...
No criminal charges will be filed in the case of a 16-year-old boy who died trapped in his van after making multiple calls to 911 for help, prosecutors said.
Kyle Plush, of Cincinnati, Ohio, died in April from asphyxia due to chest compression while he was trapped in the thir...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/car-death-3-us-er-180412.jpg_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[16-Nov-18 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[16-Nov-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh hey i called it, a week after criticism and he;s now praising the groudn the troops walk on to make himself look better


[16-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/05/donald-trump-accused-blocking-satellite-climate-change-research

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Republicans accused of obstructing satellite research into climate...
Congress ordered destruction of vital sea-ice probe
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[16-Nov-18 01:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You want to try and learn something? Tough shit.


[16-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I think conservatives are lowkey happy it's so expensive to go to college


[16-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
less people with educations which might question authority


[16-Nov-18 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think lowkey is the wrogn word for it


[16-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's sad that Lamarr Smith (R-Tex 21) is still alive


[16-Nov-18 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more liek singing it to the heavens as loud as thye can


[16-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
sure, he's retiring from the House


[16-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of term limits on being a committee chair (of the House [Anti]Science Committee)


[16-Nov-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but people like him are a threat to the planet.


[16-Nov-18 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of our congress is a threat to this planet


[16-Nov-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-11-09/7-eleven-is-at-war-with-its-own-franchisees-over-ice-raids


[16-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr 7-eleven corporate is using ICE as personal enforcement against store owners


[16-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the whole point


[16-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raids and propaganda aren't to cause compliance


[16-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the very purpose of them, why gov'ts use them


[16-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
is because it creates fear


[16-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it givs people levers against their enemies


[16-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it allows for a way to hurt the groups targeted while pointing to the law, and making individual citizens and businesses unwitting pawns in the process


[16-Nov-18 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
S Y S T E M S   O F   P O W E R

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[16-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
wtf https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/us/dartmouth-title-ix-lawsuit/index.html

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Lawsuit: 'Predatory' Dartmouth professors plied students with alco...
Three former Dartmouth College professors turned the school's Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences into a "21st Century Animal House," where female students were subjected to rape and sexual harassment, a federal lawsuit alleges.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181114220939-dartmouth-college-campus-file-super-tease.jpg


[16-Nov-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2018/11/15/veterans-arent-getting-their-gi-bill-payments-because-vas-year-old-computer-system-broke/


[16-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/julian-assange-has-been-charged-prosecutors-reveal-in-inadvertent-court-filing/2018/11/15/9902e6ba-98bd-48df-b447-3e2a4638f05a_story.html


[16-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets."


[16-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this is a big deal


[16-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, the law against leaking this stuff is normally taken to not apply to journalists given it


[16-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather


[16-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
journalists are not targeted because they hav an easy free speech argument to make


[16-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
which could invalidate the whole law


[16-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's harder to make the argument for the original leaker, and often they're not as good at making arguments


[16-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Assange comes to court, he could get off on first amendment grounds


[16-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then the law is torn asunder and congress has to come up with a new law on sharing secrets


[16-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the meantime, LEAKS LEAKS LEAKS~


[16-Nov-18 12:04 PM] ononim#8141
Leaks good


[16-Nov-18 12:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493257168221372417/512935089844256778/image0.jpg

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[16-Nov-18 12:05 PM] ononim#8141
This is the Lucky Tanktop Marx passing through your feed. 
Share him to another server and get an instant donation of 100 vouchers from Daddy Soros.
Ignore and get featured in an SJW Cringe Compilation on YouTube.


[16-Nov-18 12:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/11/memes-infowars-75-fascist-activists-red-pilled/

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From Memes to Infowars: How 75 Fascist Activists Were “Red-Pille...
The vast majority of domestic terror attacks in the U.S. are carried out by white supremacist organizations. Atomwaffen, a neo-Nazi death squad with five killings to their name, is probably the deadliest fascist group to have arisen since 2016. One member of Atomwaffen, Vasil...
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[16-Nov-18 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Nov-18 05:34 PM] Yuri#4154
The train wreck called Brexit would be amusing to watch... if I wasn't in it


[16-Nov-18 05:39 PM] Mikey#7286
RIP


[16-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Yuri#4154
_Strong and stable_


[16-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Yuri#4154

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[16-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Yuri#4154
^ Brexit honesty


[16-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
oh damn lmao


[16-Nov-18 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

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Why Are Young People Having So Little Sex?
Despite the easing of taboos and the rise of hookup apps, Americans are in the midst of a sex recession.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/2018/11/WEL_Julian_SexrecessionBirdBeesOpener/facebook.jpg?1542057066


[16-Nov-18 06:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There are lots of reasons and its not just the US either. Everyone points to Japan as example.


[16-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/business/economy/trumps-tax-cut-was-supposed-to-change-corporate-behavior-heres-what-happened.html

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Trump’s Tax Cut Was Supposed to Change Corporate Behavior. Here...
Nearly a year after the tax cut, economic growth has accelerated. Wage growth has not. Companies are buying back stock and business investment is a mixed bag.
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[16-Nov-18 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
so tl;dr


[16-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Supply-side economics at play, the companies get a huge benefit and the workers may get a few hundred bukks if they're lukky...which is what inflation would've demanded for raises anyways.


[16-Nov-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And employment actually went down cause ha, who needs employees when you're rich?


[16-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-finished-answering-muellers-questions-submitted/story?id=59248079

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Trump says he finished answering questions from special counsel
President Trump claims he has finished answering written questions from special counsel Robert Mueller's office.
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[16-Nov-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of the answers are him spitting ont he paper i;m sure


[16-Nov-18 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/11/15/really-broward-county-missed-recount-deadline-by-two-minutes-results-not-accep-n2536055

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Really? Broward County Missed Recount Deadline By Two Minutes...Re...
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[16-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow


[16-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can we just send Rick Scott to the moon?


[16-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
No return trip


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Along with everyone involved in the counting process


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and who designed the ballots


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the machines


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the laws governing them


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
just


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Half of the people in Broward county


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elon Musk, you know who to send to Mars


[16-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they're as good at survival as they are any of this, they'll hav a 300% fatality rate.


[16-Nov-18 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we fire thme into the sun instead?


[16-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Takes a lot more delta V


[16-Nov-18 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
venus?


[16-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's easier to escape the solar system than to get to the sun


[16-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Venus is real easy


[16-Nov-18 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
venus is deadlier thna mars as far as i know


[16-Nov-18 10:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Do we really want to contribute to space junk?


[16-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President Musk will create some sort of awkward tube to solve America's problems and call all of his detractors pedophiles


[16-Nov-18 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
president big bird will save us all


[16-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh the president should only have limited ability to criticize the media


[16-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Space junk in interplanetary space isn't a problem


[16-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their speech rights are inherently not the same


[16-Nov-18 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congress and the hosue shouldnt be able to vote for their own fuckign salaries either


[16-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://apnews.com/72f4f18b081b4ec68ab54ca7ab52bb61

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Sub claims ban after thanking kids for Pledge of Allegiance
MANCHESTER, Mo. (AP) — A Missouri substitute teacher is seeking answers after claiming he was banned because he thanked students for saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Jim Furkin has worked as a sub for about a decade in St. Louis County's Parkway School District, mostly at P...
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[16-Nov-18 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[16-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thanks to all of you that participated in that. I’m sure that all of those families who lost loved ones so that we could enjoy the freedoms we have today would appreciate the effort."


[16-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He wasn't thanking them, he was shaming them


[16-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[16-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that makes mroe sense


[16-Nov-18 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if this were in inverse and it was a teacher praising the kids sitting down because the flag doesn't represent liberty and justice for all and they appreciate what you are doing


[16-Nov-18 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i jsut got in trouble for doign that


[16-Nov-18 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sittign durignt he pledge i mean


[16-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tell them that they cannot legally force you to stand


[16-Nov-18 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thye couldn't so i kept doing it


[16-Nov-18 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back then it was liek 7am and i just didnt want to stand up


[16-Nov-18 11:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Looks like we will need to look into their family history for communists. Only reds don't stand for the pledge.


[16-Nov-18 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pledge actually started as a weirdly cultish ad campaign by an american flag maker to sell more flags, somehow it gained traction


[16-Nov-18 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also all of our flags now are made in china so is it really an american flag, or a communist flag in disguise!


[16-Nov-18 11:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also don't forget to salute the flag while you stand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

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[16-Nov-18 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heil flaggler!


[16-Nov-18 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/11/school-bans-the-500-coats-of-business-class-children

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School Bans the £500 Coats of Business Class Children
Valiant effort to minimise poverty shaming.
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[16-Nov-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically a school in britain has banned this specific brand of coats from their grounds on the grounds that it "poverty shames" the other children but these coats are also super warm in the winter which is probably why they're popular


[16-Nov-18 11:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[17-Nov-18 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Needs Theresa May with a jerry can on the lowest fire pouring gas over all three


[17-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brexit Breakfast: Belgian waffles soaked in shitty beer


[17-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only half of a waffle, cold, and 45 minutes late.


[17-Nov-18 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.georgianjournal.ge/world/29382-the-chieftains-jokes-stalins-pencil-inscriptions-on-drawings-by-russian-artists-nsfw-language.html

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“The Chieftain's” jokes – Stalin's pencil inscriptions on dr...
You could say Stalin had a sense of humor, but a very specific type of humor. With that being said, here are some of the more colorful "comments" this witty dictator
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[17-Nov-18 01:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[17-Nov-18 01:16 AM] ononim#8141
Look at the date


[17-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Nile#1441
Years ago


[17-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/16/668753230/democrat-stacey-abrams-ends-bid-for-georgia-governor-decrying-suppression

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Georgia's Stacey Abrams Admits Defeat, Says Kemp Used 'Deliberate'...
Republican Brian Kemp will be the next governor of Georgia, with Democrat Stacey Abrams bowing out Friday afternoon. She promised a "major federal lawsuit" against the state over voting practices.
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[17-Nov-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html

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Judge orders White House to return Jim Acosta's press pass
CNN's Jim Acosta has returned to his post at the White House following a court ruling that forced the Trump administration to reinstate his press pass.
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[17-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-kansas-official-tells-black-woman-he-belongs-master-race-n937076

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White Kansas official tells black woman he belongs to 'master race'
Louis Klemp, who once ran for governor, has come under criticism in the past for making controversial comments.
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[17-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
THE MASTER RACE


[17-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
HE BELONGS TO


[17-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
THE MASTER RACE


[17-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
A white county commissioner in northeast Kansas who told a black city planner that he belongs to "the master race" as he rejected her proposed development plan is coming under pressure from fellow commissioners to resign.


[17-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
"I don't want you to think I'm picking on you because we're part of the master race," Klemp told Penelton — claiming that the fact that both he and she had "gaps" in their teeth meant they were part of a master race. He then said he didn't like any of the land use options that she had presented to the commission.


[17-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[17-Nov-18 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what even the fuck


[17-Nov-18 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There are some really low standards for the master race.


[17-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
also that title is misleading, he said they both belonged to the master race


[17-Nov-18 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gap tooth master race


[17-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/16/were-part-master-race-white-county-official-under-fire-over-comments-black-woman/


[17-Nov-18 02:03 AM] ononim#8141
"We are all one race, the master race, the human race" Warhammer 40k but in the woke way


[17-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder why washington post links don't have previews


[17-Nov-18 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
pay


[17-Nov-18 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
paywall


[17-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
oh, I forget about that, I've never hit their paywall before

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[17-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
I have an addon which blocks scripts


[17-Nov-18 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently you get 10 free stories a month thne it;s back to paywall cockblock with you


[17-Nov-18 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
uMatrix


[17-Nov-18 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
the downside being that sometimes you have to spend a couple minutes enabling things in order to get some sites to work


[17-Nov-18 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I have a script on wapost blocked to wall the paywall


[17-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/mcconnell-trump-criminal-justice-bill.html

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McConnell Tells Trump a Criminal Justice Bill Is Not Likely This Year
Mitch McConnell, who as majority leader controls the Senate floor, delivered the news in a meeting at the White House in which he told the president that the bill would eat up too much time.
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[17-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
Senator Mitch McConnell told President Trump in a private meeting on Thursday that there is not likely to be enough time to bring a bipartisan criminal justice bill up for a vote this year, regardless of the support it has in the Senate and the White House, according to people familiar with the meeting.


[17-Nov-18 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"i;m havign too much fun being a career criminal politician and dont want to give it up for a stupid bill that i hate"


[17-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
>If the bill had enough support, Mr. McConnell said, he would be willing to bring it up next year, after the new Congress is seated.


[17-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[17-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/11/16/18099074/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-clothes-eddie-scarry

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The real reason conservative critics love talking about Alexandria...
Ocasio-Cortez’s political critics often disparage her clothes. They’re really worried about her policies.
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[17-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is wrong with conservatives


[17-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
Despite his claims that his tweet was taken out of context, the underlying message in Scarry’s tweet is clear: If people are really from working-class backgrounds, they can’t afford to look “well put together” or “elegant.”


[17-Nov-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good to know i can never buy a suit form a thrift store or else i;m not middle-working class


[17-Nov-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously the thrift store in ym town has an entire corner of very nice suits for very low price


[17-Nov-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm sure they'd still be loving it if someone went in dressed in blue jeans and a hoody.


[17-Nov-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Start going on about how they look like a slob and how dare they disrespect the chamber that way.


[17-Nov-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make it sweat pants and i coudl totally do that


[17-Nov-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/11/16/political-veteran-at-age-36-eyed-for-trump-chief-of-staff

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Political ‘veteran’ at age 36 eyed for Trump chief of staff
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[17-Nov-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s hiring yet another person who was on his campaign staff


[17-Nov-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/likely-new-house-science-chair-seeks-to-move-away-from-suspicion-of-science/

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Likely New House Science Chair Seeks to Move Away from "Suspicion"...
If elected, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson will, among other things, bring a different attitude toward climate science
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[17-Nov-18 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/16/cia-determines-saudi-crown-prince-ordered-journalists-killing-washington-post

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CIA finds Saudi crown prince ordered Khashoggi killing – report
Washington Post says Mohammad bin Salman’s brother, the Saudi ambassador to the US, advised journalist to attend Istanbul consulate
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[17-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: Ocasio-Cortez


[17-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She cannot win no matter what she does, so she would do best to continue to not give a fuck and build political support before her inevitable presidential run.


[17-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boxes, @Crow


[17-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can put them in a box, you don't need to listen to them


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her policies are bad, but if we put her in the unkempt hobo unfit to be a politician box...


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then we can continue on with our great policies of ultracapitalism


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
classism is a weapon to prevent the good ideas of the lower classes from taking root


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457

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[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
hmmmmm


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
only one of these articles brings up racism


[17-Nov-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


[17-Nov-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the smell of burning straw in the morning.


[17-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
even huffpost is talking about some random non-race related shit


[17-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But remember


[17-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives don't want to read the mainstream LIBERAL news


[17-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they won't know Fox is lying to them


[17-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how propaganda works.


[17-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/11/16/mia-love-takes-lead-first/

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Rep. Mia Love jumps ahead of Ben McAdams by 419 votes after update...
Two-term Republican Rep. Mia Love, R-Utah, is winning the 4th Congressional District for the first time since Election Day after an updated vote count in Utah County pushed her narrowly over Democratic challenger and Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams.
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[17-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/michelle-obama-reveals-she-snuck-out-white-house-celebrate-gay-n937186

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Michelle Obama reveals she snuck out of White House to celebrate g...
The former first lady and her daughter Malia secretly joined the public to celebrate the 2015 landmark ruling and see the White House lit in rainbow colors.
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[17-Nov-18 02:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[17-Nov-18 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

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Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In ...
He once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." That quote often comes up in the context of new technology.
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[17-Nov-18 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is way too many companies


[17-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Crow#5457

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[17-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
jesus, california's power company had their stock obliterated by the forest fires


[17-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pg-e-fires-in-california-camp-wildfire-utility/

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California throws lifeline to PG&E over potential Camp Fire liability
State regulator signals willingness to backstop embattled utility linked to deadly wildfires
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[17-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
Stock prices soared nearly 38 percent after plunging 60 percent and losing $15 billion in valuation in the week following the Northern California wildfire that is the nation's deadliest in a century.


[17-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
No cause has been determined, but speculation has centered on PG&E, which reported an outage around the time and place the fire ignited. The death toll from the so-called Camp Fire has risen to at least 63, with hundreds of people still unaccounted for. California state investigators in June faulted PG&E-owned power lines for sparking a dozen blazes in Northern California in the fall of 2017 that killed 46 and incinerated nearly 9,000 homes and other structures.


[17-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
PG&E's solution was to start rolling blackouts


[17-Nov-18 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
instead of, you know, actually doing their jobs and fixing things


[17-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
they keep increasing prices with no end in sight, but we're getting worse service than ever


[17-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
Keeling said they have since redone the calculations, finding the ocean is still likely warmer than the estimate used by the IPCC. However, that increase in heat has a larger range of probability than initially thought—between 10 percent and 70 percent, as other studies have already found.


[17-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
fox news is going crazy with this retraction


[17-Nov-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
saying the whole idea of global warming should be thrown out because the oceans aren't warming quicker than expected


[17-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2018/11/16/alcohol-deaths-emergency-room-increase-middle-aged-women-addiction-opioids/1593347002/

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Alcohol is killing more people, and younger. The biggest increases...
From 2007 to 2017, the number of deaths attributable to alcohol increased 35 percent. The death rate rose 24 percent. Deaths among women rose 67 percent.
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[17-Nov-18 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/betsy-devos-pitching-protections-students-accused-sexual-assault/story?id=59231922

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Betsy DeVos pitches new protections for students accused of sexual...
The Trump administration has proposed new guidelines for schools dealing with sexual assault and harassment allegations.
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[17-Nov-18 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
" The Trump administration on Friday proposed new rules for schools dealing with sexual assault and harassment allegations that would narrow the definition of sexual harassment and offer greater protections for those accused of wrongdoing."


[17-Nov-18 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/world/europe/theresa-may-brexit-agreement.html

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Theresa May and Her Brexit Deal Are on the Brink. Here’s What We...
Ministers resign, the pound wobbles, the prime minister makes a pitch to the public: Here’s where we are amid the rolling chaos over a draft Brexit deal.
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[17-Nov-18 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
>She parried questions about cabinet defections. She asked a caller about the weather, only for him to ask for her resignation. She discussed her blood sugar levels.


[17-Nov-18 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/zgYqLbW.jpg

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[17-Nov-18 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/16/668636051/-thisisnotconsent-protests-in-ireland-after-thong-underwear-cited-in-rape-trial

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#ThisIsNotConsent: Protests In Ireland After Thong Underwear Cited...
"You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front," said a defense attorney whose client was later found not guilty of rape.
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[17-Nov-18 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
"You have to look at the way she was dressed," defense attorney Elizabeth O'Connell said, according to the Irish Examiner. "She was wearing a thong with a lace front."

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[17-Nov-18 04:40 AM] Nile#1441
Why do you post so many stories at a time


[17-Nov-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/16/saudi-arabia-cuts-oil-shipments-to-us-in-likely-bid-to-boost-prices.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/16/saudi-arabia-cuts-oil-shipments-to-us-in-likely-bid-to-boost-prices.html
Saudi Arabia is slashing oil shipments to US, a tactic that boosts...
Saudi Arabia is loading fewer barrels on ships bound for the United States, a tactic the kingdom used last year to amplify the impact of coordinated production cuts with OPEC and Russia.
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[17-Nov-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
literally the worst thing you could possibly do when everyone is looking your direction for murdering a journalist


[17-Nov-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
at this rate, trump might actually do something


[17-Nov-18 05:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Of course it'd take the money for him to actually make action


[17-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/16/pfizer-drugs-prices-increase-trump-981010

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Pfizer raises drug prices again, rebuking Trump
Pfizer's new price increases, which take effect Jan. 15, will apply to 10 percent of its portfolio, the company said.
https://static.politico.com/12/be/02ecd32a493d9a00693bdee6d411/181116-pfizer-getty-773.jpg


[17-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-wireless-robocalls/u-s-senate-bill-vows-to-get-tough-on-robocalls-up-penalties-idUSKCN1NL228

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U.S. Senate bill vows to get tough on robocalls, up penalties
Two U.S. senators on Friday unveiled bipartisan legislation to toughen penalties...


[17-Nov-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
Two U.S. senators on Friday unveiled bipartisan legislation to toughen penalties on robocalls, make it easier for regulators to crack down on unwanted calls and compel mobile phone providers to adopt call authentication technologies.


[17-Nov-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
regulation is communism, so that probably won't happen :(


[17-Nov-18 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/GHf3QNL.jpg

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[17-Nov-18 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[17-Nov-18 08:08 AM] Electron#4561
People's stupidity has no limits.


[17-Nov-18 08:08 AM] Electron#4561
Deal with it.


[17-Nov-18 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's a neat idea


[17-Nov-18 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if he sells these things online or only locally


[17-Nov-18 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also fuck drug companies


[17-Nov-18 11:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://bccandle.com/mancans/

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ManCans
ManCans


[17-Nov-18 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
why huffpost


[17-Nov-18 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
the politifact article was better imo


[17-Nov-18 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/nov/16/donald-trump/do-you-need-id-buy-box-cereal-no/

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Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim you need ID to buy cereal
President Donald Trump set eyebrows aloft with an analogy he used to explain election procedures in a Nov. 14 interview with the Daily Caller. Specifically, he said you needed more detailed identification to buy a box of cereal than to cast a ballot. Here’s what Trump told ...
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[17-Nov-18 02:06 PM] ononim#8141
http://afloweroutofstone.tumblr.com/post/180195115982/dreamofhircine-tumblr-has-this-weird-thing#tumblr_notes

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Sing a song of how they tried
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dreamofhircine:
“tumblr has this weird thing where it rots certain peoples’ brains in such a particular way that every week somebody accidentally invents Posadism
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[17-Nov-18 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Nov-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/us/chicago-area-security-guard-police-shooting/index.html

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'Hero' security guard killed by police was working extra shifts fo...
Roberson was "the quintessential good guy with a gun" for stopping an active shooter, his attorney said. "But he still had to face the reality of being a black man in America."
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[17-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
ID is sometimes required to use chekks


[17-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is retarded


[17-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
but generally the people who write chekks are the people with ID


[17-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
White, older people who hav a home and bank account and everything all set up.


[17-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're the people that are easily able to vote, the entire system is designde around them.


[17-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You pretty much need a bank account to *get* ID.


[17-Nov-18 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my case it was the toher way around


[17-Nov-18 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i needed ID to get a bank account


[17-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the crazy thing


[17-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a lot of places, you pretty much need a bank account to get ID at the DMV


[17-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but in some places, you need ID to get a bank account


[17-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The main entrance provided is school ID


[17-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is something that requires a good bit of money for the school to do


[17-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The kind of money a school in a blakk area won't hav...


[17-Nov-18 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now my college is settign up a security system where you need a school ID to enter the buildings


[17-Nov-18 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fun


[17-Nov-18 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay time to prepare for scanners thatdotn work half the time


[17-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which group are they trying to keep out? The homeless, a nearby hood, white trash, or other?


[17-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Yuri#4154
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-protest-downing-street-no-one-showed-up-video/

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UKIP tried to organise a pro-Brexit protest at Downing Street but ...
A UKIP MEP's attempts to stage a protest at Downing Street over Theresa May's Brexit deal went badly wrong as only four people turned up to decry the arrangement.
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[17-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol nice


[17-Nov-18 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think they're just trying to prevent a school shootign form occurign since that's become a problem for our nation


[17-Nov-18 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
But most school shootings are done by students


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
also, in the event of a shooting


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's the issue with this theory


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's important to be able to hide in another building


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure their motives aren't actually the shooting thing, and that it's just an excuse.


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think for the mostpart the ID locks are just on the buildings where most of the classrooms are


[17-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Normally, there is always some excuse, and the real reason is like they want to make sure the homeless don't sleep in the place or to keep out poor people in general.


[17-Nov-18 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so liek building 1 and 2 wont have them since that's the administration building and the public college libraryu


[17-Nov-18 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's gonna be a mess when groups come to visit campus


[17-Nov-18 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe it;s to prevent random tour groups from enterign without a teacher present?


[17-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, that doesn't warrant the expenditure


[17-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
only way someone approved the thousands of dollars necessary is if they thought it would actually keep out some group they want kept out hard


[17-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
A non-student shooter would trivially get an ID, so unless the people who approved it are complete retards, that's right out.


[17-Nov-18 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Nov-18 08:06 PM] Mikey#7286
oh shit


[17-Nov-18 11:48 PM] rdibp#7607
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Surprised-Pikachu.jpg

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[17-Nov-18 11:53 PM] rdibp#7607
Seems like all the big time stores are shutting down


[17-Nov-18 11:53 PM] rdibp#7607
Sooner or later, all shopping will be done on Amazon


[18-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, there was a guy at my college one semester who was sleeping in a mobile home out in the parking lot


[18-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
I asked the campus police about it, and they said it was ok since he had a parking permit


[18-Nov-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[18-Nov-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/17/668947908/trump-blames-forest-management-again-during-california-visit

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Trump Blames Forest Management For Wildfires Again During Californ...
The president traveled to areas impacted by the fires in California, including the town of Paradise, which was virtually destroyed.
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[18-Nov-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently trump visited california


[18-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
what a moron


[18-Nov-18 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people liv there, remember.


[18-Nov-18 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he does


[18-Nov-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because if anyone is going to blame forest management it;s going to be the guy who defunded them


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh if Trump tried to visit my town after a disaster


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would be actively looking at potential legal action to keep him out of town permanently


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
to be clear


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I liv in the town with the largest EPA superfund site


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can you put a restrainign order ont he president?


[18-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Trump wants to cut the EPA's funding by 30%


[18-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That 30% would basically be all of the stuff keeping people in my town from not dying horrifically


[18-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably not, but Trump shouldn't be welcome in Butte, America.


[18-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, Times Beach happened around here


[18-Nov-18 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump shouldnt be welcome in america at all


[18-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's kind of the worst Superfund ever.


[18-Nov-18 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo why he woudl visit my town but i hope he never does


[18-Nov-18 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supposedly Trump Jr. was in the hotel less than a mile away from me a bit bakk.


[18-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just with select Republican invitees


[18-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure doing an open-invitation event here would've gotten him shot.


[18-Nov-18 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how many trump resorts have been near this fire in california?


[18-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or stabbed


[18-Nov-18 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
or injected with meth.


[18-Nov-18 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This town isn't exactly doing well between the war on drug addicts and other problems.


[18-Nov-18 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he has resorts in California


[18-Nov-18 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's resorts are mostly in Florida, New York, and other countries, to my understanding.


[18-Nov-18 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've noticed trump has a habit of visiting laces that hate him


[18-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, he doesn't visit military areas


[18-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and veterans do kinda hate him now)


[18-Nov-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"this place clearly hates me, guess i'll host a political rally there and thne they'll love me"


[18-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump visits places that are easy to visit


[18-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which because Democrats are the majority in urban areas


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and urban areas hav good transportation


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically places near an airport with easy presidential limo access


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
means Trump visits mainly places that hate him.


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
relatedly, that hotel I mentioned


[18-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
is across the street from our airport.


[18-Nov-18 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How big is Butte's airport even


[18-Nov-18 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I imagine a lot of it is EAS flights to Denver/Seattle/Spokane/Eugene


[18-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Salt Lake


[18-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can go to Seattle via going to Salt Lake first


[18-Nov-18 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
A nice "V" shape route


[18-Nov-18 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bozeman's airport can go directly to Seattle


[18-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, how checks actually work https://i.imgur.com/1MfNc8g.png

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[18-Nov-18 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/zzjkU1o.jpg

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[18-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[18-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/RlAyyzu.jpg

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Celebrity charity.
https://i.imgur.com/RlAyyzu.jpg


[18-Nov-18 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ZrhEj8N.jpg

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[18-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but the melody's off, it's one syllable too long.


[18-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav to compress unfathomable


[18-Nov-18 05:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Just stupidity would have been fine.


[18-Nov-18 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
what the actual fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2SgfVLigQ

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Way of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig2SgfVLigQ
How Women Weaken Nations (and why men let them)
WotW analyses some symptoms of our feminised political culture and considers what has happened to men. Support my work here: Patreon https://www.patreon.com/...
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[18-Nov-18 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
why was this in my recommended list


[18-Nov-18 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
and why does it have a positive ratio of likes to dislikes


[18-Nov-18 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
and why are there so many people in the comments agreeing with the video with so many likes


[18-Nov-18 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
especially considering the guy has a relatively low number of subs


[18-Nov-18 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
the whole thing smells like a bot setup


[18-Nov-18 07:58 AM] Nile#1441
Or people agree with this? It's not unusual


[18-Nov-18 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
there's not a single comment against the video though


[18-Nov-18 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
unless the guy's super consistent on deleting even the slightest criticism


[18-Nov-18 08:00 AM] Nile#1441
Did you scroll down further


[18-Nov-18 08:01 AM] Nile#1441
You'd be hard-pressed to find negative comments on certain videos, since it seems like most of the positive ones hug the top.


[18-Nov-18 08:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Echo chamber videos are all over the place on youtube. ~~Just look at Nintendo...~~


[18-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I loaded comments 3 times and not a single one even slightly disagreeing with the video


[18-Nov-18 08:03 AM] Nile#1441
Well I don’t know, then


[18-Nov-18 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of the comments have really strange grammar and random spaces too


[18-Nov-18 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
which heavily point towards bots


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
"I am a woman with good sense and very clear thinking , i know right from wrong ! What i see what happen with those feral females today and they are all on the Left . They are totally indoctrinated by the atheistic Marxist -Leninist ideology and it is demonic to no end ! All this is done on purpose to make especially young people conform to the coming NWO ! I also know that women base most of their decisions on emotions not facts , so they are a easy targets and i believe no women should be in a place of power period ! I watch in dismay how a Female Cult is building and it is all based on deception and yet it can become dangerous if not opposed !"


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
it types like robocalls sound


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Nile#1441
It could be; I read a lot of Twitter comments like that too


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Nile#1441
Not everything is a bit but people can be convincing


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Nile#1441
Bot


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Nile, no u


[18-Nov-18 08:05 AM] Nile#1441
wut


[18-Nov-18 08:07 AM] Electron#4561
Ha!


[18-Nov-18 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-house-race-democrat-jim-glenn-wins-just-1-vote/

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"A win's a win": Just one vote decides Kentucky House race
Many races across the country were decided by agonizingly close margins
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[18-Nov-18 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
democrat wins the nomination for a kentucky house position by 1 vote


[18-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
Glenn's victory in Owensboro, Kentucky, was one of six state House races decided by a handful of votes. In District 27, Democrat Jeff Greer lost to Republican Nancy Tate by six votes. In District 96, Republican Jill York lost to Democrat Kathy Hinkle by five votes. In District 91, Republican Toby Herald lost to Democrat Cluster Howard by seven votes.


[18-Nov-18 10:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v4AipH4gzw

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Zero Books
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[18-Nov-18 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Nov-18 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
I can hear the conservatives screaming about sharia from here


[18-Nov-18 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well msot of them are screaming about how it;s a violation of church and state because hipocrisy is an irony lost on them


[18-Nov-18 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
missouri is a state that actively persecutes its citizens


[18-Nov-18 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kansas-govcalls-for-commissioner-to-resign-after-master-race-comment.amp

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'Master race' comment by Kansas county commissioner draws calls fo...
Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer called on Leavenworth County Commissioner Louis Klemp to resign after he told a black woman he belongs to a “master race” during a meeting.
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[18-Nov-18 04:22 PM] Crow#5457
gap teeth are the master race obviously


[18-Nov-18 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gap tooth master race shallmrise again


[18-Nov-18 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted most of them will be easily dispatched by a stuck popcorn kernal but for a breif moment they shall rise


[18-Nov-18 04:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
http://flip.it/bEjS-i

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[18-Nov-18 04:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Welp


[18-Nov-18 04:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They are at it again


[18-Nov-18 04:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck Fox news


[18-Nov-18 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[18-Nov-18 04:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
It seems as if nowadays pro-Israel is a requirement to be a US congressman lol


[18-Nov-18 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Nov-18 04:47 PM] Nile#1441
Well, when the US has its proverbial dick in the Israeli honeypot, it's not surprising that being pro-Israel is a positive in US politics.


[18-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I literaly turned down a mod position once I wasn't a trump sycophant


[18-Nov-18 05:28 PM] Nile#1441
What


[18-Nov-18 05:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[18-Nov-18 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Criticising Trump is pretty much the sane thing to do tbqh


[18-Nov-18 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The guy's recently confused the Balkans with the Baltics, and blamed the leaders of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia for the breakup of Yugoslavia


[18-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's strong on economics but kinda meh on other things


[18-Nov-18 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was hilarious, and telling of his expertise as a politician. That is, very low expertise.


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's why people voted for him.


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] Nile#1441
Baltic nations are lame anyway, that's the most news coverage they'll get lately


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Strong on economics? His tax cuts for corporations are not turning out to be the trickle-down dream he hoped for.


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
nah, people voted for him because he said what they wanted to hear at that time


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
people fell for that and got him elected


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because he only went halfsies


[18-Nov-18 05:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His trade war with China was just not warranted.


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah thank god he only went halfsies.


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
how's the whole trade war going on btw?


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Haven't heard of it in ages


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
shred the buraccracy that's the other half


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If he had gone full throttle on neoliberalism, the USA would break.


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The country can't afford another Reagan.


[18-Nov-18 05:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The only thing I agreed with him on is when he said "Chicago is a failure when it came to gun laws"


[18-Nov-18 05:32 PM] Nile#1441
Trump could do a lot of things that I, as a strongly social conservative, would approve of. However he's not doing any of that and I am not really a fan.


[18-Nov-18 05:32 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Such as?


[18-Nov-18 05:32 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how the hell is trump a neoliberal?


[18-Nov-18 05:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well he definitely doesn't seem like someone who likes the LGBTQ+ community if his move to bar trans people from military service is anything to go by


[18-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there's a logical reason for that and do I need to dredge up the quotes of him promising to protect lgbt people


[18-Nov-18 05:34 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and as someone who lives in a country where pretty much everyone is taught nothing but negative things about LGBTQ people I am *sick* of their crusade against people who did nothing wrong except be different in a way they see as not acceptable


[18-Nov-18 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah ???


[18-Nov-18 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you post a pic of him holding the LGBT flag from his campaign, i'm gonna laugh


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is balls deep into supporting the evangelist estabilishment, and cutting off the rights of transgender people, which is in vogue, it seems


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
citation needed


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Nile#1441
Republicans truly embracing the gays would be futile since most of them do not vote for the Republicans.


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
log cabin republicans


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Nile#1441
Still not enough.


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah hello? His attempt to cut medical funding from transgender military servicemen and servicewomen?


[18-Nov-18 05:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and how the hell do you know the voting habits of an entire demographic


[18-Nov-18 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His neglect to care for, and sometimes even support, of the old "bar trans people from their preferred bathrooms" bills?


[18-Nov-18 05:36 PM] Nile#1441
Polling data and looking online.


[18-Nov-18 05:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you mean the lie the spindoctors coooked up


[18-Nov-18 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The fact that his VP believes gays can be "sexually cured" with therapy?


[18-Nov-18 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah one sec, bro


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, republicans are currently cutting out the minor civil right protections propped up to prevent discrimination against transgenders


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/25/lesbian-gay-and-bisexual-voters-remain-a-solidly-democratic-bloc/

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Lesbian, gay, bisexual voters remain solidly Democratic
LGB voters may make up a small share of the U.S. electorate, but they are a deeply Democratic bloc with overwhelmingly negative views of Donald Trump.
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[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Nile#1441
Republicans should rely on their core base, and not try pandering to groups that don't want them.


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you people do realize that the media lies to you


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
because like clockwork, for whatever reason, we have to have this "all people have rights" battle like clockwork every 50 years or so


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This discord in a nutshell


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hey, there's a reason California is LGBTQ haven


[18-Nov-18 05:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it's full of Democrats


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah yes, it does. Mainly, it's Fox News that does it, NYT with their hiring of an avowed nazi columnist...


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The media also tells big horseshit about antifa, and leftist social activists


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Crow#5457
is it seriously that hard to stop oppressing people for not being genetically the same as everyone else?


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I keep saying the US is a messed up place


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Crow No it's not


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Theadora Keshtah meda lies


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
where the hell did you get that second one last I checked they hired an open racist.


[18-Nov-18 05:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[18-Nov-18 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah another sec


[18-Nov-18 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kevin-williamson-fired-the-atlantic-memo-jeffrey-goldberg-abortion-hanging

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The mag’s editor initially defended the controversial view as simply a bad tweet. But then it was revealed that he’s long held the opinion that abortion patients should be hanged.
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[18-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If (facts != world_view)
(print "fake news";)


[18-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Nile#1441
Man that is based


[18-Nov-18 05:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
getting your pew "research" let me point out that this data is completely worthless.


[18-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If (facts != world_view)
(print "fake news";)


[18-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
flaw 1 self identification. most gay lesbian and trans people do not adopt the LGBT identity


[18-Nov-18 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah "i disagree with it, so it's wrong"


[18-Nov-18 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
conservatives are still doubting US federal sources for data even 2 years into trump's presidency as being "biased"


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
flaw 2 based on exit polling. which can be manipulated easily.


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
like you were going to believe the man who was laughed off in front of basically the entire UN once


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and yet flaws


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah Trump is an idiot


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the UN is a sick joke


[18-Nov-18 05:42 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it's bad when an organization known for being a bit "slaved" to the US is laughing at its own president


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Centersts are the only bastion of sanaty


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
it's slaved to the security council, not just the US


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
See


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
This is why I hated the idea of a permanent security council


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's just a globalist front by now


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it gives too few countries the authority to fuck up way too many countries


[18-Nov-18 05:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
not to mention they are the only one allowed to own nuclear weapons


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
china and russia blocks every humanitarian thing the US supports


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] ononim#8141
global powers balkanization best day of my life


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
and the US blocks everything that china and russia tries to do


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the US pulled out of the human rights council and china objects 🤔


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] Nile#1441
Make the US a Commonwealth realm


[18-Nov-18 05:44 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that's like only giving 5 people in a room of 500 the right to own an assault rifle


[18-Nov-18 05:45 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
now we have:


[18-Nov-18 05:45 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
-a superpower acting erratically


[18-Nov-18 05:45 PM] ononim#8141
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[18-Nov-18 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
russia and china blocked all US attempts to send humanitarian aid to syria


[18-Nov-18 05:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maybe that's becasue the US is using that as an excuse to arm rebel groups in syria


[18-Nov-18 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't know, but a guy who can't tell the difference between the Baltics and Balkans is not fit for the presidency


[18-Nov-18 05:46 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
is the US ever interested in humanitarianism in Middle East tbh?


[18-Nov-18 05:46 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
nah, they're just there for the black gold


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
or at least that's what everyone here says


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wow you've really fallen for it.


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
the most hilarious thing was the US and israel pulling out of that human right's council was how they literally gave up their voice on the subject, thus allowing the council to condemn israel


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fallen for what?


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trumps manipulation.


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
what


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
with who you're talking even


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
who is this harazu guy accusing?


[18-Nov-18 05:47 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
me?


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] Nile#1441
Puppet master


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well maybe not me


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
badger sorry I'll tag in the future


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The truth? The evidence that Trump is a buffoon with no previous experience in politics, who got elected simply for what he represented than for what his actual policies were?


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm seeing it spread to my country, Brazil. Bolsonaro is Trump, but even worse, which is somehow possible.


[18-Nov-18 05:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do you even know what he acctualy ran on


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Why would badger believe a man who said he hates Mexicans, then posted a photo of him eating Mexican food in Trump Tower?


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
if anyone remembers that obviously


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah er, i do? Hatred for migrants? Hatred for social liberalism? Hatred for the international economic and political order?


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] Nile#1441
Social liberalism is gay


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
both trump and hillary would change their stances based on who was asking the questions and where they were pretty much weekly during their campaigns


[18-Nov-18 05:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
your ignorance is astonishing. @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
there's only a couple things that they'd stick to which were complete opposites in order to win over the right/left respectively


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah i'm not even sure what i should reply to that, you're not even using arguments.


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Did you guys like the memes i posted btw


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Nile#1441
No


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:(


[18-Nov-18 05:50 PM] ononim#8141
I did


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Nile#1441
:sosmol:


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 did you even read his campaign website in 2016


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
npc memes are kinda anarchist tbh


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:)


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
no matter who posts them


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
_gives @Gordon Freeman a gold star shaped scootaloo_


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I did, and?


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yay


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Nile#1441
Campaign websites say a lot but don’t promise much


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
^


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
monarchist boi is right


[18-Nov-18 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's free market antics are not compatible with his protectionism.


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
*holds gold star scoot*


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] Nile#1441
It’s part of the reason I ain’t a republican @ononim


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I don't belive you because I went to his campaign website and saw nothing of allegations you're making.


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
of course you wont 🤦 @Theadora Keshtah


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it's a *campaign site*


[18-Nov-18 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
*why would any sane politician worth his salt say anything bad about him/herself*?


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@Gordon Freeman i liked ur memes


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that would just be tantamount to political suicide


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can tell as much info from his campaign site as i can from his speeches and tweets


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ok then let's do this


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] Nile#1441
It’d be bad praxis to advertise criticism towards their promises


[18-Nov-18 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hate to say it, but Nile is right here


[18-Nov-18 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
I hacked into @Theadora Keshtah  webcam and got this


[18-Nov-18 05:54 PM] Nile#1441
wew


[18-Nov-18 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
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[18-Nov-18 05:54 PM] Nile#1441
I’m 2-0 today


[18-Nov-18 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No modern politician will ever have the guts to express self-criticism.


[18-Nov-18 05:55 PM] Nile#1441
Self criticism looks like weakness to voters


[18-Nov-18 05:55 PM] Nile#1441
Which occasionally is not untrue


[18-Nov-18 05:55 PM] Nile#1441
But it doesn’t hurt to be critical of your policies


[18-Nov-18 05:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
1. Hatred for migrants
complete fabrication based on an out of context quote of him saying that criminals illegal immigants are all mexicans

2. Hatred for social liberalism
define these terms please because he's practicly one
3. Hatred for the international economic and political order
the only acctual true statement and this hatred is shared by a lot of the working poor of this country not because of *insert identarian pet idenity here* but because it dispraportionaly robs them of their standard of living


[18-Nov-18 05:57 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
what, him wanting to build a wall around Mexico to keep them out is not enough proof for you?


[18-Nov-18 05:57 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not all illigal immigrants are mexican you racist


[18-Nov-18 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah Er, no. His quote about Mexicans being rapists, criminals, and job-stealers is an avowed part of his discourse. His hatred for what he calls "globalists" is also evidence confirming the third point.


[18-Nov-18 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah ?


[18-Nov-18 05:57 PM] Crow#5457
you didn't see the ad that trump ran in the week before the election that even fox news pulled because they realized it hurt republican chances more than it helped?


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But Trump supporters do generalize all illegal migrants into Mexicans.


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
oh you mean the part where he endorsed separating families from their children and building a wall on the border and banning muslims isn't hatred for migrants?


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you cite nothing.


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
you're a fucking idiot


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Also, Mexico-American border is amongst the most often crossed in the world, if not the most often


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you mean several strawmans are proof enough


[18-Nov-18 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah burden of proof is on you, because the evidence we're using is mainstream.


[18-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@byte[] thanks ^^


[18-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the burden of proof is on you because you cite literaly nothing


[18-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no links no nothing just the given opinions


[18-Nov-18 05:59 PM] Nile#1441
I’m pretty sure he didn’t say all Mexicans were rapists and bringing crime, the quote begins with “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best...” which wouldn’t apply to the good Mexicans.


[18-Nov-18 05:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, **the burden of proof is on you.**


[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/us/politics/nbc-caravan-advertisement.html

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Even Fox News Stops Running Trump Caravan Ad Criticized as Racist
NBC and Facebook also pulled the ad, which was intended to stir fear of migrants moving north through Mexico. CNN rejected it, calling the ad “racist.”
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[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence


[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
we've given evidence


[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
you've not


[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/18/why-are-families-being-separated-at-the-us-border-explainer

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Why are families being separated at the US border?
The Trump administration’s ‘zero-tolerance’ policy has led to almost 2,000 children being separated from their families
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[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
fine I'm dismissing youre assertions then because you're providing nothing


[18-Nov-18 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here's just to guarantee.


[18-Nov-18 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
lmao http://time.com/5314957/family-separation-policy-trump-rhetoric/

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President Trump Calls His Own Family Separation Policy 'So Sad.' H...
A contradiction he's faced before.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/trump-immigration-gangs-animals-ms13.jpg?quality=85


[18-Nov-18 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
do you actually need me to look up articles on border wall and family separation and every single line of anti-immigrant rhetoric trump has made


[18-Nov-18 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
his own goddamn policy


[18-Nov-18 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
to prove the goddamn point


[18-Nov-18 06:01 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you expect me to belive an article from the gurdian that literaly lies in the first sentence.


[18-Nov-18 06:02 PM] Nile#1441
Do you not want to make the distinction between legitimate immigration and illegal border crossers


[18-Nov-18 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah by god, you are that stupid, aren't you?


[18-Nov-18 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read the article you're given.


[18-Nov-18 06:02 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not about the specific article anyway, if you don't like that exact one find coverage from other sources


[18-Nov-18 06:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417210-number-of-immigrant-children-in-us-custody-reaches-all-time-high

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Number of migrant children in US custody hits record high
A record-high 14,000 migrant children are in U.S. government custody, as the White House implements its hard-line stance on immigration.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/immigration_migrantchildren_061814getty2.jpg


[18-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
new article from 2 days ago


[18-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
“Currently, there are approximately 14,000 minors in the unaccompanied alien children program, a number that can fluctuate up or down," Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) spokeswoman Evelyn Stauffer said Friday in a statement to The Hill. "The Trump Administration continues to enforce current laws to address our nation’s crisis at the border.”


[18-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
However, the number of migrant children in HHS custody continues to rise in part because of an agency agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) reached earlier this year that allows ICE to conduct background checks on potential sponsors, delaying the release of children from government custody.


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A president who slashes funding for environmental protection agencies, then complains about them not doing a good job at stopping forest fires, is a dumbass, tbqh.


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
you can look up all the articles you like @Nile  but he's the "I'm right, you're wrong" type, it would be futile


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ever considered there's a reason why they're conducting these background checks


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Having someone like that in control of the nuclear football is horrifying.


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
THAT'S NOT RELEVANT


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'll take that as a no


[18-Nov-18 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump's rhetoric and policy is anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
if you don't believe that I might as well stop here


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
because if you assert a contradiction you can prove anything


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd stop, too. Some people can't be debated with.


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if you belive any assertion that comes you're way


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
why do they put aluminium foil over the children like they're some sort of roast chicken meant to be put in the oven


[18-Nov-18 06:05 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
don't get me started on that.


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
@Theadora Keshtah we are having an argument about whether trump's policy is anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
you are trying to change the topic with the "why"


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not relevant


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact of the matter is he is anti-immigrant in rhetoric and in policy and there are so, so many sources that affirm this


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Crow beacuse of the illuanty


[18-Nov-18 06:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA

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[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@Crow the msm blatentely lied about what that facility is.


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>the msm


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
another topic change


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
also a strawman


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
concede the damn point


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're trying to debate fucking 50 odd points with me at once


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Nile#1441
I have a random question


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
no I'm not


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
How about we eat m&ms


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Trump hates foreigners


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yes you are


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
full stop


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
why else would he not only be anti-immigrant but also incite a trade war with China?


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm trying to get you to concede that trump's rhetoric and policy are anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
While in #nsfw we do sm


[18-Nov-18 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
That is it


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] Nile#1441
Do you believe it’s wrong or fine to have in group preference


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@byte[] you have provide ZERO GODDAMNED EVIDENCE!!


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
`oh you mean the part where he endorsed separating families from their children and building a wall on the border and banning muslims isn't hatred for migrants?`


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] i think we should stop, this one's already lost


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
literally said this a few minutes ago


[18-Nov-18 06:08 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
which is a goddamned lie


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
CAPS LOCK ISNT AN ARUGMENT


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aw, he's in denial


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
2 + 2 = 5


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ignorance is strength!


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] Crow#5457
I provided evidence tho


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
can you jackassses give nothing but canned rheotirc


[18-Nov-18 06:09 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
all you have done is moved the goalposts


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Nile#1441
This is so sad, Alexa can we reunite the British Empire


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
and now you accuse me of canned rhetoric on _easily verifiable and well established facts_


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
like I've been saying you're all making 50 seperate specious assertions at once


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not even trying to say "immigrants are good people" the argument is "is trump's policy and rhetoric anti-immigrant"


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
focus on one goddamend issue at a time


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
which is exactly one issue


[18-Nov-18 06:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Nile god save the queen


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
god save us from the queen


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God save the queen from us


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
VIVE


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
shame the dessenter shaaaaaam her


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
God please give us back queen


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Nile#1441
Don’t tell me you wouldn’t rather have Queen Liz over Trump


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I miss freddy merucry


[18-Nov-18 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd rather have no one in charge, thanks


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
I would've taken a bag of rocks over both trump and hillary


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the British Empire is no more


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I wanted a golden recherver pupper to be presedent


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The British Empire got beaten quite awesomely by Nasser in Egypt, lmao


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] Nile#1441
S-Shut up! :Downvote:


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
I'd also take a bag of rocks over hillary


[18-Nov-18 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
in other words, if "Bag of Rocks" was on the ballot in the 2016 election


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
I would've picked that


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Nasser was just some Arab colonel...


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Nile#1441
I piss on Nasser


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, what about Singapore, 1942?


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
#bagofrocks2020


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and so the groupthinkg continues


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
#makeamericarockagain


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
what is this groupthink you speak of


[18-Nov-18 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jerry Seinfeld for president.


[18-Nov-18 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every speech of his should begin with "what's the deal with..."


[18-Nov-18 06:14 PM] Nile#1441
We all believe differently


[18-Nov-18 06:14 PM] Nile#1441
It’s hardly a groupthink


[18-Nov-18 06:14 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
orange man bad msm only source of facts


[18-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Theadora Keshtah If (facts != world_view)
(print "fake news";)


[18-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
Methylsulfonylmethane?


[18-Nov-18 06:15 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
btw byte still wating on your citation


[18-Nov-18 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🙄


[18-Nov-18 06:16 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
warc you've literaly repeated that line 3 times who's the npc now?


[18-Nov-18 06:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Like i said


[18-Nov-18 06:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Everyone.


[18-Nov-18 06:16 PM] Nile#1441
I’m not a npc


[18-Nov-18 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1052888451199262725

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The "Trump travel ban(s)" (sometimes called the "Trump Muslim ban(s)") is the colloquial name for executive actions taken by Donald Trump as President of the United States in 2017. The actions include two executive orders for restrictions on citizens of seven (first executive...
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Trump administration family separation policy
The Trump administration family separation policy, described by the Trump administration as part of its "zero tolerance" policy, was an aspect of U.S. President Donald Trump's immigration policy. The new guidelines were implemented in April 2018, and, following immense public...
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1052888451199262725
....The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak...
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[18-Nov-18 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
That enough citation for you?


[18-Nov-18 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
goddamnit, don't you know that that twitter is a known fake news source


[18-Nov-18 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
```py
if argument.losing():
    move_goalposts()
    deny_facts()
    write("/dev/null", citations())
```


[18-Nov-18 06:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Impossible. Trump uses Twitter every day. No way it has fake news.


[18-Nov-18 06:19 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Nah, its him being a douchebag and saying it to the world


[18-Nov-18 06:19 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
When he uses Twitter


[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
rofl https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/498008486551506945

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We need a President who isn't a laughing stock to the entire World. We need a truly great leader, a genius at strategy and winning. Respect!
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[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
from 2014


[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Well you are not that man Mr Trump


[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Yuri#4154
l o l


[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Not by a long shot lmao


[18-Nov-18 06:20 PM] Arvid#8335
Yeah, we need a President that isn't a laughing stock...


[18-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Arvid#8335
We need... Kanye West!!


[18-Nov-18 06:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
As a matter of fact the world respects *my President* much more than him


[18-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No we need a pupper


[18-Nov-18 06:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/ 👌

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[18-Nov-18 06:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Puppers are good bois


[18-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Nile#1441
Voting is gay


[18-Nov-18 06:22 PM] ononim#8141
heck


[18-Nov-18 06:22 PM] ononim#8141
Wow nile I didn't know you thought that voting is good :^)


[18-Nov-18 06:22 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not conceding the argument it's just taking me a god awfull long time to refute these sources


[18-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nile#1441
:sosmol:


[18-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Yuri#4154
One of these sources is Trump's own Twitter 🤔


[18-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
is there an upper limit to how long it'll take you to refute those sources until you realize you can't


[18-Nov-18 06:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
:Luna:


[18-Nov-18 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to guess that you're going to say "implying certain types of immigrants are bad does not extend to being against all immigration"


[18-Nov-18 06:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Moon Princess/ supermodel is bored of waiting for you Harazu


[18-Nov-18 06:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Lmao


[18-Nov-18 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
however most people that trump even considers "immigrants" to begin with are mexican


[18-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
trump wants those sweet white, happy, healthy, and educated norwegian immigrants who are only that way due to "socialist" policies


[18-Nov-18 06:25 PM] Nile#1441
Well why would he be against Canadian immigration


[18-Nov-18 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
because there's not that much


[18-Nov-18 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact of the matter is that trump's policy is against more than a tiny minority of immigration already therefore it is by definition anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Truido should be pres of the us


[18-Nov-18 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
Make Canada into Quebec and US into Lousiana again


[18-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Canadain empire


[18-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
50 states?


[18-Nov-18 06:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
More like 50 new provenses


[18-Nov-18 06:27 PM] Nile#1441
>French nationalism


[18-Nov-18 06:27 PM] Nile#1441
Get out

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[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
*liberté égalité fraternité intensefies*


[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
He sure took his sweet time refuting those sources


[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Maybe he can't?


[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/HTqUj7gSzBg

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[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently by some metrics, norway is more socialist than venezuela


[18-Nov-18 06:28 PM] Nile#1441
#BourbonRestoration


[18-Nov-18 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
the main difference between norway and venezuela is that venezuela is a dictatorship that tramples all over its own democratic processes


[18-Nov-18 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/articles/783700/democratic-socialism-bad-why-norway-great

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If democratic socialism is so bad, why is Norway so great?
Norway is the most socialist country in the world. It's also a much better place to live than the United States.
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/norway.jpg?itok=zq92kPUA


[18-Nov-18 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
>Reliable statistics on the Venezuelan economy are hard to come by, but Norway is unquestionably more socialist than Venezuela according to the above definition. Indeed, it is considerably more socialist than supposedly-communist China, where only 31 percent of national wealth is owned by the state.


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] Nile#1441
Norway doesn’t have the same kinds of problems the US does


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
No it doesnt


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Its also a lot colder


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
"Norway is not some destitute hellscape. Indeed, not only are Norwegian stores well-stocked with toilet paper, it is actually considerably more wealthy than the U.S., with a GDP of over $70,000 per person. Even when you correct for the moderately large oil sector (which accounts for a bit less than a quarter of its exports), it still has a cutting-edge, ultra-productive economy — far from some petro-state living off oil rents like Dubai."


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because norway isn't a socialist country


[18-Nov-18 06:30 PM] ononim#8141
🍿


[18-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
1. travel ban
not a muslim ban it's a temporary travel ban from countries with severe terrorist problems only a small fraction of the muslim world is affected. indonesia is not on the list. 
2. the trump seperating family fiasco, dozens of points to go over
key ommision from the wikiepdia article. the policy that ultimatly lead to this was put in place by bill clinton. the reason I asked you if there's a reason why ice would do background checks was because you clearly don't know that there are criminals pretending to be the parents of assylum seeking children seeking to abudct them https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-obama-administration-children-human-traffickers/
3. this tweet from trump is not anti immigrant
read the tweet it's pretty clear that he's mentioning mexico because they share a land border with us. if russian mobsters were streaming into the US via canada trump would call out canada

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[18-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
>Of all the domestic wealth in Norway, the government owns 59 percent, and fully three-quarters of the non-home wealth (as most Norwegians own their home).


[18-Nov-18 06:32 PM] Nile#1441
Norway is a small, homogeneous nation with a great quality of life, while the US is a large, heterogeneous nation with a lot of social problems and unemployment


[18-Nov-18 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
1. anti-immigrant policy
2. anti-immigrant policy
3. anti-immigrant policy


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
all are examples of anti-immigrant policy


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
>because obama did bad, trump is justified with also doing bad


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
see my above point about "not all X"


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
ok


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
>It’s an obviously false statement that the “left-leaning media stayed strangely silent” about the case, because a simple Google search reveals it has been thoroughly reported on by local and national outlets and is the subject of a PBS documentary film. As the text notes, Conservative Tribune’s own story was based on such reporting.


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
did you even read your own article lol


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
1. citation needed
2. citation needed
3. citation needed


[18-Nov-18 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
>not a muslim ban it's a temporary travel ban from countries with severe terrorist problems only a small fraction of the muslim world is affected. indonesia is not on the list.


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
When why wasn't Saudi Arabia on the list 🤔


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
@ononim do not let yourself get trapped by this


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
good question


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nile#1441
Banning the US’s next biggest Middle Eastern ally, and it’s oil daddy, is bad praxis


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
the argument is "is trump's rhetoric and policy anti-immigrant"


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
demonstrate to me these policies are "anti immigrant"


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
everything else is irrelevant right now


[18-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Right well i had my fill of poloticts today


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
By guys


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
Because they are anti-immigration


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
are you, perhaps, dense?


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Im going to look at scootaloo being a cute pone


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
... because he's not letting immigrants in and painting them in a broad brush?


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
circular logic is circular


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nile#1441
I’m anti immigration to a degree


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
that's clearly and obviously anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_policy_of_Donald_Trump#Executive_actions

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[18-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because he's not just erasing our nation he's anti immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I suspect what you're going to try to do now is change the definition of anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
wow, there's even a wikipedia page dedicated to trump's anti-immigrant policies


[18-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you literaly defined anti immigrant as being any policy that prevents people from just walking into the country willy nilly


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1010900865602019329

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We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came. Our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and Law and Order. Most children come without par...
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[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
... that's what it is


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is retarded


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, that is _exactly_ what it is


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
circular logic continues to be ciruclar


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
"By refusing immigrants to enter there if they are in a bad state of health, and by excluding certain races from the right to become naturalized as citizens, they introduce principles similar to those on which we wish to ground the People's State." Mein Kampf Vol. II Chapter 3


[18-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump's policies are anti immigrant because I say these policies are anti immigrant


[18-Nov-18 06:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Hey stop calling his logic circular, your argument rebuttals arent much better


[18-Nov-18 06:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
You do not stand on a higher platform than him


[18-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not going to waste my time refuting an argument so patheticly weak


[18-Nov-18 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I didn't define anti-immigrant as trump's policies


[18-Nov-18 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
that would be circular


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] ononim#8141
>never did


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
I used a reasonable definition of it and used it to describe trump's arguments


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] ononim#8141
>says is done


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] ononim#8141
lel


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Which you then pretended to refute


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah are you a trump supporter?


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Nile#1441
Godwin’s law I see


[18-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[18-Nov-18 06:40 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Lmao


[18-Nov-18 06:40 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Yes


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@Mikey why do you care?


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Because you sound dangerously like one


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Are you?


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
define anti immigrant then in your own words not some random link please


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Nile#1441
They’re just curious since you are defending him a fair bit


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
again why do you care doding questions is dodgey


[18-Nov-18 06:41 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Anti-immigrant is literally "opposed to immigrants". Simple.


[18-Nov-18 06:42 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is a narcissist braggart who cares only for himself


[18-Nov-18 06:42 PM] Mikey#7286
I pity anyone who genuinely thinks he's a good president


[18-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Arvid#8335
@Theadora Keshtah Can you not drive everyone around in circles please


[18-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Mikey#7286
He treats being president like a CEO


[18-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Mikey#7286
Like he's still running one of his failing businesses


[18-Nov-18 06:43 PM] Nile#1441
I had hopes compared to Hillary, but his presidency further makes me dislike elections


[18-Nov-18 06:44 PM] Mikey#7286
Hilary was her own kind of terrible


[18-Nov-18 06:44 PM] Mikey#7286
And she wants to run again


[18-Nov-18 06:44 PM] Mikey#7286
How pathetic


[18-Nov-18 06:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
from what I can gather "anti imigrant" in this context is just having a border


[18-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump meanwhile literally acts like a child


[18-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Calls everything fake news when it doesn't align with his opinions


[18-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
"I would like a 5-page report on the definition of 'anti-immigration' and how it is related to President Trump's policies by the end of the class"


[18-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Arvid#8335
I like how half of right winger's responses when they're cornered is just to feign ignorance. "I don't know who David Duke is" "Their could have been violence on both sides" "It could have been Antifa who did it"


[18-Nov-18 06:46 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
My English lecturer once went "we didn't have fake news until we had a fake president" lmao


[18-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Mikey#7286
Has fired more people in his cabinet and his own party than any president should


[18-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@Arvid antifa has a storied history of violence how old is antifa answer me this question.


[18-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Nile#1441
Thank God I live in a less crazy country


[18-Nov-18 06:47 PM] Mikey#7286
I envy you


[18-Nov-18 06:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Though you still have Trudeau


[18-Nov-18 06:47 PM] Arvid#8335
Lol the main subject of my post wasn't about Antifa.


[18-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's calling out antifa for the terroists that they have been for close to a century


[18-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Nile#1441
I don’t like him, I like Queen Liz


[18-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Mikey#7286
I thought Canada was independent?


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Nile#1441
Were a Commonwealth realm, but we have political independence


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Ahh


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
I see


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Tbf


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Nile#1441
We’re*


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Arvid#8335
Uh uh. Guess all those anti-fascists fighting ISIS are terrorists, and all those anti-Fascists in 30's Germany.


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] ononim#8141
>talks about far right rally full of fascist one of which killed a person


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Queen Elizabeth doesn't really have that much power anymore


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] ononim#8141
>"but what about the other side?"


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
She's just a figure


[18-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Arvid#8335
Fighting ISIS makes you just as bad remember that.


[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Nile#1441
She’s the sweet old lady in colourful clothes


[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1064176731681116160

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Holy shit -- Trump dismisses a Navy SEAL who has been critical of him as "a Hillary Clinton fan & Obama backer" & criticizes Navy SEALs for not taking out bin Laden *sooner.*

"Frankly, wouldn't it have been nice if we had gotten Osama bin Laden a lot sooner than that?"

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[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
As I said


[18-Nov-18 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is a narcissist


[18-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Nile#1441
A lot of politicians in the US are


[18-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
"you don't like what I'm doing, you're a bad military person"


[18-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Funnily enough


[18-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm pretty sure the Queen has literally zero power


[18-Nov-18 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
The majority of the military dislikes Trump


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Monarches in the UK have zero power since 1685 when the Bill of Rights took place


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Yuri#4154
^


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they've been depowered long before the French and their revolution in 1789 shook the world forever


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah monarchies aren't really a thing anymore


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nile#1441
Not zero, but not really any day to day


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
now they're *constitutional* monarches


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nile#1441
Reserve power exists


[18-Nov-18 06:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so the Queen is in effect a high-society resident


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Yuri#4154
This is so sad
Can we  re establish absolute monarchy


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
or any monarch for that matter


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Yuri They tried once Napoleon was permanently defeated at Waterloo


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Nile#1441
But I’d rather a powerless monarch than a powerful buffoon like Trump


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
needless to say it failed


[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1064182652129996801

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TRUMP ON HIS DECISION-MAKING PROCESS: "I don't think about it. I don't think about how I make 'em. I make what I consider to be the right decision."

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[18-Nov-18 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
>I don't think about it.


[18-Nov-18 06:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that explains some of the shit he said


[18-Nov-18 06:54 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
he uses his feelings


[18-Nov-18 06:54 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
like a normie


[18-Nov-18 06:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Remember that time he angered French people by saying that had there been armed civilians ISIS wouldn't have killed so many in the 2015 attack in Paris?


[18-Nov-18 06:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump not thinking about something?


[18-Nov-18 06:56 PM] Mikey#7286
What a shocker!


[18-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Arvid#8335
"I don't know! It could have been *insert person or group here*!!" - Trump everytime he's cornered


[18-Nov-18 07:02 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
say, what's the deal with the antifa movement?


[18-Nov-18 07:02 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They seem awfully excessive in violence-making


[18-Nov-18 07:02 PM] Nile#1441
They’re thugs who just wanna smash things


[18-Nov-18 07:02 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
even for a vigilante advocate like me


[18-Nov-18 07:03 PM] Arvid#8335
Why do you advocate vigilante justice


[18-Nov-18 07:03 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
because sometimes people are just above the law to the point that we can't trust the law to not screw up


[18-Nov-18 07:04 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I could cite some cases from my country if you like


[18-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Yuri#4154
~~this is why we need the Phantom Thieves~~


[18-Nov-18 07:04 PM] Arvid#8335
Alright, I mean that's not entirely wrong per say in of itself


[18-Nov-18 07:04 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that being said, *petty* vigilante justice is not acceptable


[18-Nov-18 07:05 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Imagine, if you will, a bunch of people burned a guy down to death *because they thought he was stealing a mosque's sound amplifier system* (no, really, that happened in my country)


[18-Nov-18 07:05 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
even though it was really one he just repaired and was returning to his client


[18-Nov-18 07:05 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm all for Magnum Force-style vigilantism, but please do it on the big dogs


[18-Nov-18 07:05 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
not petty criminals


[18-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
here's a thought define immigrant.


[18-Nov-18 07:11 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
"someone who lives, and is a resident of, a country he is not originally born in"


[18-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump's platform is anti illegal immgrant not immigrant in general


[18-Nov-18 07:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
"Just because you have a very good reason to act like an arsehole, doesn't mean you're not being an arsehole"


[18-Nov-18 07:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Illegal immigrants are by definition "immigrants that immigrate without legal permission of the country in question (in this case, the US)"


[18-Nov-18 07:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they are still immigrants, like it or not


[18-Nov-18 07:13 PM] Nile#1441
If that criteria still makes you anti-immigrant, guess I’m strongly anti-immigrant


[18-Nov-18 07:14 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US has earned a notorious reputation as being one of the most difficult countries to immigrate to


[18-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
japan...


[18-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Nile#1441
It’s not unreasonable to see why


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Nile#1441
Literally everyone wants to go to the US


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
@Theadora Keshtah if you point tha japan is pretty racist country yes they are


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
at least Japan has the excuse of having a rigidly defined culture and social network, so anyone who wants to immigrate there has to fit in


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
Google anti-korean sentiments in japan


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Japan is a very rigid country culturally


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and america dosen't


[18-Nov-18 07:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
America doesn't


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] Yuri#4154
@Nile I'd rather die


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
why else would the idea of "American Dream" exist then?


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
!p shinzo abe


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[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
wat


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
!c shinzo abe


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[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
lmao


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
No pony versions of "please fuck" mem?


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
I am dissapoint


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] Nile#1441
“Please fuck” - Shinzo Abe


[18-Nov-18 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
!p disappointed


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[18-Nov-18 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
holy shit house


[18-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maybe america isn't just protecting the surface components of a culture but a phiosophy that is presently unique to it.


[18-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Nile#1441
The US’s philosophy isn’t all it’s cracked up to be


[18-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
who's the hedgemon of the world


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Nile#1441
The US is


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and why is america the hedgemon of the world.


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] ononim#8141
Economy?


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Nile#1441
Because the Allies were weakened after two world wars


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] ononim#8141
Profiting of the most devastting war in history while itself was pretty safe?


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Nile#1441
Marshall Plan


[18-Nov-18 07:19 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
yeah, pretty much @ononim


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because the philosphy that drives american culture won out of the philosphy driving the soviet union's culture.


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Mikey#7286
The thing is


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US sat by the sidelines while Germany, Italy and Japan were busy butchering the Europeans and their colonies


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and why did they do that?


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Immigration to the US isn't as high as it used to be be


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and just went "hey, wanna buy my weapons to fight back against those guys?"


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so they did


[18-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Mikey#7286
The wall is a shitty idea and you can't argue that


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Yuri#4154
Right now no one could pay me enough to move to the US


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why's the wall a bad idea.


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Nile#1441
It’s an amazing idea in concept, but stupid in reality


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Nile#1441
Imagine a big wall


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Yuri I'd rather go to Norway or some other Scandinavian country than live there


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Because it won't stop illegall immigration for one


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hell even Canada would be preferable


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Yuri#4154
@PzZ1-TD1 yup


[18-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Nile#1441
Walls only really worked when they were around cities


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Nile even that sometimes doesn't work


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Nile#1441
You can’t wall off an entire border


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
like under a siege, for example


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Mikey#7286
And two I don't want to pay more taxes for a pointless thing


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hey, there's a big reason why Hitler's plan to *wall off the entire European mainland* failed


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it was too much ground to cover


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
agreed I don't want to pay taxes for bueuros that do literaly nothing.


[18-Nov-18 07:22 PM] Mikey#7286
You are a trump supporter aren't you


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean, you support the wall, from what it seems


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
do literally nothing against what?


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you never got around to answering my question of why that is even important.


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
illegal immigration?


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't even need an answer


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Nile#1441
It’s not important but he’s just wondering


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Mikey#7286
I already know you are


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
anything. the epa does nothing for starters


[18-Nov-18 07:23 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you do realize I saw this comming from miles away.


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Do you think the wall is a good idea?


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Nile#1441
Saw what


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Arvid#8335
Why do you have an issue with being labeled as a Trump supporter if you pretty clearly like and defend Trump


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hey, Berlin Wall couldn't keep Germany separated forever


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Mmmmhm


[18-Nov-18 07:24 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because I can see the ad hominem fallacies brewing a mile away.


[18-Nov-18 07:25 PM] Mikey#7286
The wall is a waste of taxpayer money and won't fix anything


[18-Nov-18 07:25 PM] Nile#1441
I can sort of see Harazu’s point as to why he wouldn’t call himself that


[18-Nov-18 07:25 PM] Nile#1441
Seeing the caliber of people here who like to insult people


[18-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't know why anyone would support such a narcissist orange buffoon tbh


[18-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Arvid#8335
The Wall itself is never going to get built, and Trump's supporters aren't bothered by that. Trump's supporter's don't care about the actual physical wall, they care about what the wall represents, which is terrorizing immigrants.


[18-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I always took the wall promise as more a statement of intend rather than something serious. the solution to the overarching problem in my opinion is serious criminalization and enforcment of companties that knowingly highre illegal immigrants.


[18-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Mikey#7286
Who's not even a real politician


[18-Nov-18 07:26 PM] Litrojia#0612
I always got the impression Trump supporters want the physical wall


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Mikey#7286
@Arvid this tbh


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean hell


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
At this point I doubt they care much though


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Arvid Less terrorizing immigrants


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Mikey#7286
They _still_ have not repealed obamacare


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
more terrorizing everything not from the US


[18-Nov-18 07:27 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[18-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
"I will repeal the ACA in my first 100 days"


[18-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
ineffective congress with both houses red
imagine how the next two years are gonna be


[18-Nov-18 07:28 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the gop has two factions in it. one wants teh aca to stay the other dosen't the former got their way. neither of these monolithic parties are monoliths.


[18-Nov-18 07:29 PM] Arvid#8335
Anyone with a brain knows the wall (as Trump describes it) is too expensive to build and would be too time consuming, and it would never actually get finished. If they started to build it, the unfinished beta version would likely get torn down during a later president's term.


[18-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
I guess you're right there. Party members' ideologies aren't as homogeneous as media suggests


[18-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[18-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
hell, I had a right-wing teacher in high school who wanted single-payer


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
I can't see Trump being elected a second term


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Mikey careful with that statement


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
well make sure to stock up on whatever makes you happy for election day then.


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Litrojia#0612
I can't say anything for sure until there's some certainty about the Dem nominee


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the democrats are so weak they couldn't beat trump if they tried atm.


[18-Nov-18 07:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the last time we thought like that in the 2017 Jakarta elections, the worst happened


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
people didn't think he'd win the first time


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
He seems more concerned with "sticking it to da nasty liberals' than getting anything noteworthy done


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'd say it's unlikely he gets a second term though


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
though not a guarantee


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump is a proper liberal.


[18-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes he is


[18-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
progressive =/= to liberal


[18-Nov-18 07:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Isn't he a hardline conservative? Liberal is one word he'd not be seen near


[18-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
the 2018 midterms did have a blue wave


[18-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean he even acts like those es jay ws right wingers bitch about


[18-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because idiots on the right wing don't know what the word liberal means... or socialist.


[18-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
even estute and aware commentators I like get this one wrong.


[18-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't consider myself liberal or conservative


[18-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I can tell.


[18-Nov-18 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I consider you ignorant


[18-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same for you


[18-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd like to think I'm pretty progressive, I'm an advocate for scientific progress, getting us more into space and whatnot, actual equality for gays and trans, and not "special treatment", legalize Cannabis


[18-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
To name a few


[18-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] how?


[18-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not ignorant


[18-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not progressive I'm liberal


[18-Nov-18 07:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hey if you want freedom be prepared to consequent your actions (take consequences of them)


[18-Nov-18 07:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that's really the only price


[18-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Well I think people would put the two together @Theadora Keshtah


[18-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they have no fucking idea what these words even mean.


[18-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
🤷


[18-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
liberals aren't progressives


[18-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and progressives are not liberal


[18-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean, I'm more left leaning than right


[18-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also bernie sanders is not a socalist


[18-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
But I'm probably center left


[18-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
No he's not


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's just saying that because he want's to be a political edgelord


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
I actually supported him


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
In 2016


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same I voted for him in the DNC primary


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
And then the DNC fucked him over


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they just let anyone turn up to vote in my state


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
Because "muh first female nominee"


[18-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and then he went off the rails


[18-Nov-18 07:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the dnc has two big factions the progressives and neoliberals the latter will pretend to be the former to win progressive votes.


[18-Nov-18 07:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
at least we can both hate hillary together.


[18-Nov-18 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
Bernie Sanders personally strangled Rosa Luxembourg. *Still think Social Democracy is harmless?*


[18-Nov-18 07:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he keeps calling norway socalist when it's more accuratly a social liberal


[18-Nov-18 07:46 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
state


[18-Nov-18 07:53 PM] Nile#1441
Dems are becoming obsessed with having so many “first X” or “first woman to X”


[18-Nov-18 07:54 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yep pretty much identity politics are cancer.


[18-Nov-18 07:56 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I hate identity politics


[18-Nov-18 07:56 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The use of religious identity politics in 2017 Jakarta elections is why I got angry with religion and became secularist


[18-Nov-18 07:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
both sides the authentic alt right (they hate trump btw) and the regressive left thrive on idpol


[18-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
Probably my biggest problem with the left establishment


[18-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Mikey#7286
I support trans rights at least but I agree


[18-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
I support LGBT rights, but I don't support affirmative action for them
especially for sexuality since you can't even see gayness


[18-Nov-18 07:58 PM] Mikey#7286
And as someone who is bisexual I definitely think homosexual discrimination needs to die


[18-Nov-18 07:58 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I personaly perfer to pull the T off of the LGB because trans is not a sexuality.


[18-Nov-18 07:58 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
If there's something I radically oppose its censorship


[18-Nov-18 07:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
I could call myself bi in a bind, but if it's just in fetish cases it doesn't really count


[18-Nov-18 07:59 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I like dudes esspecialy pony dudes.


[18-Nov-18 07:59 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm straight and I support LGBT rights lmao


[18-Nov-18 08:00 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'd be solidly bi if we're talking MLP


[18-Nov-18 08:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The problem with T people in my country is that conservatively religious people consider them "people who do not accept His decree of gender"


[18-Nov-18 08:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I.e not satisfied with the gender the person was born in


[18-Nov-18 08:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Which I think is stupid


[18-Nov-18 08:01 PM] Litrojia#0612
I didn't support trans rights until I got to know some and realized they aren't the triggered SJW snowflakes the right makes them out to be


[18-Nov-18 08:01 PM] Litrojia#0612
they aren't looking for attention, it's genuine


[18-Nov-18 08:02 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've always supported trans right but you can accuse me of self intrest in that area.


[18-Nov-18 08:02 PM] Nile#1441
I’ll add that I understand why they play identity politics, it often works


[18-Nov-18 08:03 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that said I dissent a lot from the "trans agenda" the whole bathroom debate is making literaly anyone invovled look stupid.


[18-Nov-18 08:03 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I have to admit I sometimes dream what would life be like if I am a female person


[18-Nov-18 08:04 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The bathroom debate is stupid cuz theres only two genders


[18-Nov-18 08:05 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Gay, Lesbian, Bi and Straight is sexual orientation not gender


[18-Nov-18 08:05 PM] Nile#1441
Well no one says those are genders


[18-Nov-18 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not really, the gender debate is much more nuanced than that.


[18-Nov-18 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are historical examples of societies who believe in a "third gender", and of some who sometimes eskew the traditional definition of "gender" altogether when refering to one individual


[18-Nov-18 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender, as a societal construct, is heavily dependant on behavioral and visual cues. And those cues change from culture to culture.


[18-Nov-18 08:08 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
^


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] Nile#1441
I can’t believe a word of that


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, this is not just some far-left deconstructionist discourse, this is the consensus among psychologists and psychanalysts


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And anthropologists, even


[18-Nov-18 08:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
http://flip.it/q1vO5A

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"Leaders in authoritarian countries like Russia, China, Venezuela, now repress the media using your words," Fox News host Chris Wallace told Trump.
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[18-Nov-18 08:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Oh jeez


[18-Nov-18 08:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
If you thoughr Trump was repressive you aint seen Putin, Xi Jinping, or Erdogan


[18-Nov-18 08:10 PM] Nile#1441
People who study things that are all in their head 🤔


[18-Nov-18 08:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
You could get *killed* even for genuine criticism done politely in those countries


[18-Nov-18 08:10 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the fake news thing started with CNN trump turned it against them now the real tyrants of the world have retaken it again.


[18-Nov-18 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile well, at least they study things, unlike most of the people who say "there are only two genders".


[18-Nov-18 08:11 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the one meme the msm have ever coined sucessfully.


[18-Nov-18 08:12 PM] Nile#1441
You study a radical theory only believed by so-called intellectuals


[18-Nov-18 08:12 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
gender and sex are diffrent but tied together at the hip.


[18-Nov-18 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm open to discuss how they qualify as "intellectuals", but this theory is far from "radical"


[18-Nov-18 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And even if it is radical, then i'm willing to embrace myself as a radical.


[18-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
most of the thrid gender societies have extremely illiberal conceptions of what man and woman are. liberal socieites are more flexible.


[18-Nov-18 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah er... there are nuances, sure, but we can't check all "primitive" societies into one box


[18-Nov-18 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Being an "advanced" or "liberal" society is highly subjective


[18-Nov-18 08:14 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
illiberal and primative aren't nessicarily synonims


[18-Nov-18 08:14 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
china is illiberal but extremely advanced.


[18-Nov-18 08:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc

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surreal entertainment
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc
Ben Shapiro in a nutshell
Ben Shapiro is a political figure and also a very epic person. This video contains one of his most viral moments. Ben Shapiro vs a liberal feminist. --------...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JV_jL01IUfc/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Nov-18 08:15 PM] Nile#1441
As if being illiberal is bad


[18-Nov-18 08:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It also depends on your code of ethics


[18-Nov-18 08:16 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a man wearing a dress is still a man he dosen't take on a new gender identity just because he dresses like a weirdo


[18-Nov-18 08:17 PM] Nile#1441
lol


[18-Nov-18 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah uh, no


[18-Nov-18 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Minutes ago, you said you defended trans rights


[18-Nov-18 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And now you comment something like this.


[18-Nov-18 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Decide yourself already.


[18-Nov-18 08:18 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a man in a dress is not by defintion trans


[18-Nov-18 08:18 PM] Nile#1441
A man in a dress isn’t a transsexual


[18-Nov-18 08:18 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he has to identify as a woman before  he going into she becomes trans.


[18-Nov-18 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A man in a dress could be a transgender woman or just a crossdresser. It depends on how they view themselves (genuinely).


[18-Nov-18 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Society's cultural view involving them also matters, but it opens a can of worms


[18-Nov-18 08:19 PM] Nile#1441
I’m not going to call a man with a full beard in a dress a woman


[18-Nov-18 08:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
liberal socties will look at the trans woman as a woman. trans women who make no effort to be percived as women shoudnlt expect people to consider them as such, I'm personaly pretty tolerant on the issue but I don't control other people,


[18-Nov-18 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile you might as well call them non-binary


[18-Nov-18 08:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I wholesale reject the concept of nonbinary


[18-Nov-18 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People's gender identity, sometimes, is more complex and variable than what the traditions say


[18-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the traditions are irrelevent in a liberal society.


[18-Nov-18 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Genderfluid people, for example, change their gender identity according to the situation they find themselves in


[18-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Nile#1441
I’ll call them a man in a dress


[18-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
being unusuual is not a seperate gender identity.


[18-Nov-18 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can call them that, but again, you'll just end up being considered a prick


[18-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a prick to people inadvertantly advancing the cause of transphobia np


[18-Nov-18 08:23 PM] Nile#1441
If I’m a prick for pointing out their reality, I’m sorry


[18-Nov-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y'all need ContraPoints


[18-Nov-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b_uEXzqW43c

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What is Gender? | ContraPoints
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b_uEXzqW43c/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Nov-18 08:24 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
non binary implies the notion of a gender binary which is a deeply illiberal position to hold. sex binary on the other hand is a diffrent


[18-Nov-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How is that illiberal?


[18-Nov-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, believing gender does not resume itself to ones and zeroes is anything but illiberal


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
>Contrapoints


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
No


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're just in denial that she's a fabulous bih


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Nile#1441
They look like a drag queen


[18-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yall need zarathustra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VNEXbe4Pg

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Zarathustra's Serpent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VNEXbe4Pg
Droppen Ze Dead
A look into the non-binary gender debate. My previous video on the subject: https://youtu.be/_XTJ43Ly9gM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s5VNEXbe4Pg/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Nov-18 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TrANs PEOple ArE UgLY


[18-Nov-18 08:26 PM] Nile#1441
If their intent is to look like a drag queen then yes they look ugly


[18-Nov-18 08:26 PM] Mikey#7286
My issue with the LGBT community is honestly a lot of them seem to want special treatment instead of equal rights


[18-Nov-18 08:26 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
^


[18-Nov-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Theadora Keshtah did you say just now the EPA doesn't do anything useful?


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't want protections as a bi man


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
@Mikey it's weird, I see that online and in the news, but not IRL


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I just want to be treated the same as a straight person


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not recently but most of budget is unessicary.


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
Actually I guess I've met a couple gay people like that, but most not so much


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey that's what a depressed, impoverished, abandoned trans girl would also say


[18-Nov-18 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
And I don't like getting into gender politics


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Mikey#7286
To me it's a mess on both ends


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie did you read the Red Fed/Blue Fed speculative history?


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nile#1441
There are a multitude of ways you can be treated like everyone else


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nile#1441
Act like everyone else for one


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, on some earlier stuff: Republicans are more pro-Israel than Democrats, and Fox News is basically worried that new Dems are more left and will take away Democratic support of it. Also, rejecting the gays from the Republican party scares away potential gay Republicans, none of the already-adult gay people would switch party probably if Republicans accepted them, but long-term Republicans would hav more members if they weren't exclusionary.


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile what if i feel uncomfortable being forced to act like everyone else?


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where the federal government just sort of decides to let states set their own rules on major things and they have coalitions of states


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Theadora Keshtah The town I liv in


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Mikey#7286
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm not impoverished depressed or abandoned


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nile#1441
You’re screwed then


[18-Nov-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
is the largest EPA superfund site


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is taking a ton of money


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey you're not, but thousands of LGBT youths and adults around society are


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't think I need to act like everyone else


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
to prevent the giant toxic lake


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lodge cabint repbulcians and milo yinapolis


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
from contaminating our water


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the EPA's budget were largely reduced


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nile#1441
It’s also futile trying to appeal conservative politics to gays, which is why I don’t care to


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
accepted by the gop without question.


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
my town would be poisoned very very quikkly


[18-Nov-18 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again this is why minorities should have more guns


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you argue for less EPA funding


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
you are literally arguing


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
for me and people in areas like mine


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they'd have to give up their 6 figure salaries and fire buracrats that aren't nessicary for the function of acctualyprotecting the enviroment


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
to be poisoned by the remnants of industry.


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EPA spends most of its money actually doing stuff


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
The GOP needs to stop cutting the budgets of things like the EPA and NASA


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
and bureaucrats are NECESSARY to make decisions on things that impact thousands of people


[18-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
says the epa


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah Nebbie in the story everyone in the Red Fed has no EPA and people are poisoned and live in refugee camp just outside blue fed borders


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I am not the EPA


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
And cut the over bloated military budget


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey they should cut off some budget from the military tbh


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump wants to raise nasa's budget


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
No he doesn't


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
No he doesn't


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted to cut funding for WFIRST


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the pentagon is a black hole for money


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They all say they're for "fiscal responsibility", but turn a blind eye to the military's oversized budget


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nile#1441
The US should cut its budget, but other nations better be prepared to pay their share of their military budgets


[18-Nov-18 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Other nations don't need to pay their share


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Sending troops to places they don't need to


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is simply too much military around right now


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Iraq for one


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Syria


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the best part of the story was when there was a refugee crisis in rural America the coastal states told them all to fuck off and they live in border camps and die of measles and the cold


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't take much to stop pirates and the few rebel groups operating right now.


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
After 9/11 they should have just sent them to Afghanistan and nowhere else


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
honestly nato is more about a projecting american power than defense against anything which is why I have less of an issue with nato members paying a lot


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
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[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed... there are lots of options available to the USA to solve conflicts peacefully around the world, but that's mostly wishful thinking, though


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
And when they got bin laden


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nile#1441
What if in the event of another nation invading somebody with no army


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Pull out immediately


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
But no


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Anyone remember that?


[18-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nile#1441
What happens then


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
There's still us troops in Afghanistan


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The absolute ideal would be like


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the invading nation's building army, it would be noticed


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile you do know that WW3 will most likely be nuclear, no?


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
additionally


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Splitting up Russia into four or five countries


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the real prickly point is when nato nations want to fight eachother.


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
the UN could send troops to help the invaded nation


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they can never ever be powerful ever


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and like it did in Korea)


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the UN peackeepers are a sad joke


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about peacekeepers


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nile#1441
Or nations should pay for their own militaries and not rely on a weak international organization


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too bad NATO is toothless right now... they failed to act decisively multiple times in Africa and the Middle East


[18-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they totaly stopped the genocides in africa


[18-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
altho peacekeepers actually hav been shown to reduce the intensity and length of conflict


[18-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Mikey#7286
The military budget is like $1.3 trillion, that's insane


[18-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nato has the wrong focus they say russia but russia isn't a threat china is


[18-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they just don't immediately solve it, because only a moron would demand they be some magic sauce you sprinkle that stops conflict 100% overnight)


[18-Nov-18 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah both are threats in one way or another


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
NATO is geographically built around stopping Russia


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's in the DAMN NAME


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
NORTH ATLANTIC Treaty Organization


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't the Global Defense Treaty Organization


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Need to fucking actually do it


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
You know, I really think Stephen Hawking was right, we probably won't survive into the next century at the rate we're going


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
General Winter is dead


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
russia isn't a military danger what could the realisitcly conqure without going nuclear. the answer of course is some old soviet sattilites


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
>North Atlantic
>Includes Turkey and Greece


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, we'll be quite fine


[18-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
🤔


[18-Nov-18 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile Turkey and Greece entered to counter Russia, but you're right in a way, tbf


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[18-Nov-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey and Greece both hav the mediterranean


[18-Nov-18 08:36 PM] Nile#1441
I’m still saddened about Greece, man


[18-Nov-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is an extension of the North Atlantic


[18-Nov-18 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie by that logic, the Indian Ocean is an extension of the Pacific


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really don't think even a war in Europe now would go nuclear


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nile#1441
They’re a great nation but yikes


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the Atlantic Ocean is also an extension of the Pacific. Semantics, bud.


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nato is a misnomer it's all about being under america's protection.


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like imagine NATO intervention in Ukraine


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the worst that would have happened


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking it will only go nuclear if one side realises it's losing badly


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a misnomer, the entire point is countries with ready access to the North Atlantic


[18-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's the area Russia projects power from


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and why it stole Crimea)


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Russia projects power from eastern Europe and northern Asia.


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
russia threatening nuclear war. can you blame them though imagine chinese troops in mexico or cuba


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having ports is REALLY important to trade and military influence


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Central Asia isn't shit but raw resources


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you rely on an ally for a port, you are weak


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Real question


[18-Nov-18 08:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What port is in Crimea?


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck do we still let Russia have Kalingrad?


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia can only realistically project military influence if it has access to the North Atlantic


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The only port I remember in Ukraine is Sevastopol


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give it back to Germany or give it to Poland


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking if we try and pry it off, they'll declare war


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sevastopol is basically why Russia took Crimea


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Itsthinking Königsberg?


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nile#1441
Give it to Germany


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
If nuclear war doesn't break out by the end of the century I'll be surprised


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nile#1441
Prussia will live again 🇩🇪


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kaliningrad/Konigsberg/Krolewiec/East Prussia is Russia's most militarized area


[18-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
contemporary russia isn't our enemey though they're responding american aggression.


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why Turkey is a big deal being in NATO


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the ukraine is literaly on their doorstep


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
That Russian nuke that is just a bunch of nukes straped together but spreads out at the end of its flight is scary.


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey and then the UK with Gibraltar are the ways to the North Atlantic


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
old soviet nukes is russia's only major military asset.


[18-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interference with American geopolitical affairs is worse than anything the USSR did or could have done


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia right now has to go thru the fukking English Channel to get to Syria


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah some of those nukes are still pretty reliable


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is messy


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A nuke would be less harmful


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the rest of their army is powerless against combined nato forces.


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Russia is developing more


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their army is also quite a threat, and won't be destroyed in a blitzkrieg


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia needs to basically have a Treaty of Versailles thing but better


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if politics continue going in the direction they're going russia could become our ally.


[18-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's army and navy is full of outdated and undermainatined equipment


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
with poor training


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine trying to occupy such a lengthy country in sufficiently little time


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's impossible


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They would lose in a direct fight with the US


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
Get rid of Putin and bring back the Tsar


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the point was never to fight the US


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
:Upvote:


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nile actually good idea


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile >implying Putin isn't already the tsar


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't think Russia would drop nukes, I think it's more likely China or north Korea would, or both


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
both sides want to control the smaller powers to form large alliances of influence and power


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are any  Romanovs alive


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At all


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if the EU achives it's dream I'm sure russia will be wanting to ally with america against china and the EU


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
Some distant family


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking there are some alive


[18-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of the US and Russian armies is to keep places like the Middle East in line


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nile#1441
They were related also to some German houses


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the British one


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
US involvement in the middle east revolves around military contractors in america and saudi arabia's impeiral ambitions.


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The tsar to come after Nicholas II was the hemophiliac


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nile#1441
Poor Nicky


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence the whole Rasputin thing...


[18-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saudi Arabia is used as a counterbalance against Iran, little more.


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but iran is on the brink of mutinying to american cause.


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US mostly goes out bombing places on its own when it needs to teach a country not to play nice with Russia


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie also, oil


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and saudi arabia is not our friend they work hard to undermine america


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iran isn't on the brink of anything except war with Saudi Arabia.


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except we outproduce the saudies


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Iran and Saudi Arabia are playing the same game we are with Russia


[18-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want to control the smaller nations against each other.


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the iranian people generaly support us if we encouraged revolutionaries in iran they'd side with us.


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter who our friends are


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
politics aren't about friends.


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If SA and Iran get into war, a lot of small emirates on the Persian Gulf's coast will also be dragged along


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Qatar is beginning to lean close to Iran, for some reason


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Anyone who thinks politics are about friends are näive


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nations are greedy assholes in practice that will bully others into supporting them.


[18-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they're already in a proxy war syria is that


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't forget Yemen


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why does everyone forget about Yemen ffs


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Israel is likely to ally with Saudi Arabia against Iran with how things are going.


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yemen isn't forgotten


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nile#1441
Because I don’t have much of an interest in Yemen


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just not important


[18-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yemen is the nearest country for Saudi Arabia to abuse the people of for political gain.


[18-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dead terrorists help you maintain support among your people


[18-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the goverment of iran is hostile to america but the iranian people will back us. one cia backed revolt later and iran becomes our ally


[18-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
so it is in your best interests to create terrorists and kill them


[18-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and creating them is as simple as killing civilians


[18-Nov-18 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah yeah, whatever makes you sleep at night...


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what's wrong with me wanting to see the iranian people free


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You put bombs and mostly-innocent people in one end and get corpses that people cheer over on the other, basically


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Iran's people are never going to ally with the US, after all they've historically done to fuck up Iran


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Nile#1441
Shah of Iran pls


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no alliance is concrete


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Iranian people will not revolt any time soon


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Overthrowing Mossadegh, propping up the Shah, etc.


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we can blame the brits for that


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because it was their fault


[18-Nov-18 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not only the Brits.


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The CIA, too.


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] ononim#8141
Fuck off with all tht Tsar talk


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Nile#1441
Wow what did my limey brothers do


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the brits used america to keep iranian oil flowing to itself


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And to Murica


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And away from Soviet reserves


[18-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Nile#1441
@ononim no u


[18-Nov-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
@Nile нет ты


[18-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the people I think will be willing to forgive in time esspecialy since culturaly iran has more in common with america than saudi arabia.


[18-Nov-18 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Theadora Keshtah ???


[18-Nov-18 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That statement makes no sense, i'm afraid


[18-Nov-18 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Persian, Arabian, and American culture are worlds apart


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the iranians still are a pretty liberal people overall young iranians want western modernity not islamist tyrany


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some do


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i'll defend them


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
people hating ayatholah =/= loving murrica


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
saudi arabia is like the evengelical christain dystopia on steroids.


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we shouldn't be allied with them.


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nile#1441
Ayatollah is shit, Pahlavi will be better


[18-Nov-18 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But we must take the Iranian socio-political estabilishment into consideration


[18-Nov-18 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
Ah yes, the great battle of shit and piss


[18-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they're useless to us the only reason the saudi treaty isn't in shreds is because of greedy assholes who corrupt our goverment.


[18-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nile#1441
Saudis are gay


[18-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Mikey#7286
@ononim LB


[18-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
Emo Lives Matter


[18-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the oil thing is dead it's all about saudi arabia being a huge purchaser of american guns.


[18-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and saudi wars in the middle east feed even more money into the american arms industry.


[18-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the price unforutnatly for this is saudi arabia's culture destabalizing ours


[18-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it has to stop or america will cease to be the america that is american.


[18-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We still rely on Saudi oil, actually


[18-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We won't be self-sufficient on oil for decades


[18-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
Should rely on us in Canada instead


[18-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
We got lots of oil


[18-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we export oil


[18-Nov-18 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
Oil is sex after marriage for the purpose of procreation


[18-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
more than saudis do.


[18-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
infrastructure spending to rerout exported american oil inward coupled with subsadies for companies to sell internaly and the saudi oil thing breaks.


[18-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
remember the strategic oil reserve exists why not buy our own oil for it.


[18-Nov-18 08:59 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
gotta run applejack approved food is calling


[18-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US does rely on Canadian oil, a ton


[18-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8UZn7PmyXc

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[18-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
"With this administration the writers have the easiest job on the planet "


[18-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wish Fudge would become Speaker because come on


[18-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Her last name is Fudge


[18-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fudge tells off Republican court packing plan"


[18-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would get a minority leader with a last name like "Hungry" and there'd be vore jokes.


[18-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or "Packer"


[18-Nov-18 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/16/eric-swalwell-democratic-lawmaker-warns-gun-owners/

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[18-Nov-18 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good to know one guy in our government is willign to nuke his own fuckign country to silence criticism


[18-Nov-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there had to be a far better come back to those tweets than "we have the nukes in this relationship"


[18-Nov-18 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://socialistra.org/


[18-Nov-18 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder, one of the sane groups


[18-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What a bunch of babies responding to his sarcasm


[18-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not going to be able to to overthrow the US government by force


[18-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you get significant portions of the military to turn as well


[18-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying shit like this is like saying America's gun culture is heavily ingrained with racism


[18-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People know it but avoid saying it


[18-Nov-18 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/417330-trump-dismisses-criticism-of-navy-seal?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Trump dismisses criticism from Navy SEAL who led Osama bin Laden m...
President Trump in an interview broadcast Sunday dismissed criticism from the retired admiral and Navy SEAL who led the operation to assassinate Osama bin Laden.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald2_110718getty.jpg


[18-Nov-18 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Wouldn't it have been nice if we got Osama bin Laden a lot sooner than that, wouldn't it have been nice?" Trump asked. "You know, living - think of this - living in Pakistan, beautifully in Pakistan in what I guess they considered a nice mansion, I don't know, I've seen nicer. But living in Pakistan right next to the military academy, everybody in Pakistan knew he was there."

"You're not even going to give them credit for taking down bin Laden?" Wallace asked.

"They took him down but - look, look, there's news right there, he lived in Pakistan, we're supporting Pakistan, we're giving them $1.3 billion a year, which we don't give them anymore, by the way, I ended it because they don't do anything for us, they don't do a damn thing for us," Trump responded.


[18-Nov-18 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
er, did harazu claim he was liberal after arguing for hours that trump isn't anti-immigration?


[18-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do not know


[18-Nov-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/during-wildfire-tour-trump-suggests-doing-more-raking-like-finland-could-prevent-california-wildfires.html

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During Wildfire Tour, Trump Suggests Doing More Raking Like Finlan...
In Finland, "they spend a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things, and they don't have any problem," Trump said Saturday.
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[18-Nov-18 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything this president says makes me feel liek pounding ym face into a wall


[18-Nov-18 10:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Same


[18-Nov-18 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"norway has jobs, american companies shoudl just hire more people and stuff like norway thne we'd have mroe jobs"


[18-Nov-18 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can't do that without funding tho.


[18-Nov-18 10:01 PM] Mikey#7286
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/523/C1mGBSvWEAANu9k.jpg

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[18-Nov-18 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow the defense is like, to say that all the things conservatives want they don't and that they aren't conservatives.


[18-Nov-18 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, suppressing minorities? No no, they're just enforcing the law, like any good liveral


[18-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rewarding corporations? Just preventing gov't overreach, like any good liberal


[18-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making the gov't dysfunctional? No no, just getting rid of corrupt swamp-dwellers, like any good liberal.


[18-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is one of the stupidest defenses of conservative positions I hav ever seen.


[18-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda similar


[18-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I "respect" openly racist people more than dog whistlers


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff like "this is just extending what Bill Clinton did" is retarded


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say you think black people are violent and inherently dangerous and should be arrested because they're black


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
he used circular logic while blaming byte for using circular reason when byte just stuck with one subject


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
liberals (and me in particular) generally dislike Bill Clinton cause he bent over for conservatives and was ineffectual.


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't sugar coat it as "need to be tough on crime"


[18-Nov-18 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Its, the metaphor still livs


[18-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
the euphemism, rather.


[18-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you remove the coat of sugar, moderates may abandon you


[18-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moderates determine elections.


[18-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't sugar coat it as "religious freedom," just say you think LGBT people are disgusting degenerates


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump managed to wrangle moderates because it turns out many moderates are racist in the right states


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no argument for modern "religious freedom" that isn't "I want all LGBT dead"


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Nile#1441
h y p e r b o l e


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho overall people voted for Hillary, the south and some purple states hav more voting power.


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The religious are the most privileged group in the US


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And live off of their martyr complex


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not hyperbole


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Religious and white people, at least most of them


[18-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People HAVE religious freedom


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can do whatever you want


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the religious freedom laws proposed in the US all stemmed around cases with businesses wanting to deny gay people services or women contraception


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Nile#1441
And how does that go into "I want gays dead"


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The modern argument is a dog whistle to turn religion into a kudgel to beat down secular rights


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Nile#1441
Explain


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Denying services to gays is done with the idea to reject them from society, if not by killing, by other means


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want to use their religious freedom to deny others their secular freedoms


[18-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the entire purpose is to discriminate


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't like how protected religion is


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Mikey#7286
The government wanted separation of church and state for a reason


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
he would switch between circular logic and just randomly spewing out groupthink because everyone other than him realized what he was doing


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Religion doesn't belong in politics


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is so so easily changed to the point it means nothing


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/articles/783700/democratic-socialism-bad-why-norway-great

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If democratic socialism is so bad, why is Norway so great?
Norway is the most socialist country in the world. It's also a much better place to live than the United States.
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/norway.jpg?itok=zq92kPUA


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I could be a Muslim tomorrow


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a Buddhist


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a Jew


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a Satanist


[18-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's silly


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nile#1441
Which is why we should only recognize Christianity, problem solved


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Satanists are great for going after "religious freedom" crap


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
A more important rejoinder to this argument is Norway (and the other Nordic countries to a lesser extent). Norwegian workers are heavily protected, with 70 percent of workers covered by union contracts, and over a third directly employed by the government.


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nile#1441
:Upvote:


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Protected still though


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
What if Christianity accepts the gays?


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what if the church politics change?


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I worry fundies may look at Satanists and try to pass a "parody religion" exception


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nile#1441
Then that's a problem.


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Mikey#7286
Satanists are just as delusional as Christians imo


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if the point is to be political


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the Pope says to not hate people for being gay and to not deny them services


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
If that's the problem


[18-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Satanism doesn't really exist


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
then it's not really about religion


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about hating the gays


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
using an excuse


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean there are people who say they're satanists


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It exists so secularists have protections against protesting religion in public lifw


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Mikey#7286
But yeah


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not really a religion


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the religion says gays are okay, and that's not okay, then it was never about following the religion


[18-Nov-18 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah nice


[18-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nile#1441
Except it is if you're a Christian.


[18-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"If your pastor said tomorrow that gays were fine and the children of God too would you still hate them"


[18-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you're a Christian, why should you reject the church when it says gays are okay?


[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nile#1441
I'm Orthodox, we don't exactly believe the faith should change to "fit with the times".


[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they want to couch their political stance under a veneer of religion


[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), there's no way for the US to be more like norway without implementing policies that the republicans act like they would cause a civil war over before they would allow to happen


[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
>Adam Schitt


[18-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
What if it isn't changing to fit with the times?


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
like unions in norway have absolute power


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sadly true


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
But to fit with the message Jesus of Nazareth was espousing?


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
no one loses their job because they're laid off


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was msotly beign sarcastic about what trump said though


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nile#1441
Then that's for a council to decide, not just the Pope.


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
if the position is made redundant by new technology, they get shifted to another position in the company


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Some religious people don't change but rather claim something was misinterpreted in the bible


[18-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
the unions in the US are currently losing power, both through laws and in the courts


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but finnland does this and they dont have forest fires"


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if the council and the pope all agree?


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nile#1441
Then the Church will be split once again


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
trump fucking defunded federal forest management


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The religious in America want subversion of our secular culture


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye couldnt do that if thye wanted to you fucking jackass


[18-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
the huge ass fire in california happened on land that the federal government was supposed to be managing


[18-Nov-18 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of chruches are split down the line of whether thye follow the new or old testament


[18-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the church is split about whether to actually follow what Jesus said


[18-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
then it is clear the split is political


[18-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not about the actual beliefs


[18-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
aren't churches that follow the old testament called synagogues


[18-Nov-18 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the old testament is mroe useful to politicians so they try to force it


[18-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
or are there christians that somehow only follow the old testament


[18-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity has split many times already, it has become quite clear that people are not following some divine set of beliefs


[18-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are clinging to their own political ones.


[18-Nov-18 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a fuck ton of thme have never even read the bible and onyl listened to what their pastor has said or not even gone to church int he first place and just focused one the bits politicians cling to


[18-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nile#1441
And even if so, is that a problem? The subversive ideas of Protestants are trying to infect every inch of the religion.


[18-Nov-18 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not against christianity as a whole but i do wish mroe of them woudl read their own book


[18-Nov-18 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
I was informed someone staned Orthodoxy here


[18-Nov-18 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
So


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
Unles you were staning it against Catholics


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
You're wrong


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well them too


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
~~попы genocide best day of my life~~


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
~~fat bastards~~


[18-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Personally I think if you're going to say the church should not change anything in the Bible that's taken at face value you should be consistent


[18-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nile#1441
Consistent in which ways


[18-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Mikey#7286
If you say homosexuality is wrong than you should stone your wife if she cheats or cut your child's hand off when he/she steals, too


[18-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nile#1441
Basing this off of OT, are we


[18-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Mikey#7286
Well the OT also mentions sodomy too, just saying


[18-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Torah is horrid.


[18-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nile#1441
It mentions a lot of things, yes. However, there's a reason why Christians are not a Jewish sect.


[18-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Mikey#7286
If you're going to reject one thing reject everything else in the OT


[18-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nile#1441
We don't follow Mosaic law.


[18-Nov-18 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if you're following old testament law, you shoudl avoid cotton,wool, and mixed fabrics


[18-Nov-18 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe silk?


[18-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Israelites were evil, they just happened to win against all the other horrible people in the area.


[18-Nov-18 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure if that's metioned


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It meant leather and cotton


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
silk was unknown to them


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok those are the ones


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
combining animal and plant fabrics was considered sacred


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
only allowed for priests


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
God is a tyrant and one should live good outside of him.


[18-Nov-18 10:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Marcus Aurelius gang, represent


[18-Nov-18 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would wool be considered an animal fabric?


[18-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Nile#1441
Didn't even leave a good heir, what good was Aurelius


[18-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Nile#1441
God gang


[18-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
God is a terrorist organization in the story about Moses getting out of Egypt.


[18-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
God has his followers put a mark above their door to indicate political support, anyone who doesn't has their oldest son murdered, meanwhile the crops are destroyed and biological weapons are deployed against the masses


[18-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Mikey#7286
God is also narcissistic


[18-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[18-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nile#1441
Saving his covenanted people from Egyptian barbary is terrorism 🤔


[18-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[18-Nov-18 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
He explicitly used terror as a weapon to achieve his goals


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The pharoah let people go out of fear for what God would do next.


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, by definition, terrorism.


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying terrorism is wrong


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
but I think in this instance, it was unnecessary


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
and unnecessary terrorism is definitely wrong.


[18-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Nile#1441
Would you rather the Israelites remain in Egyptian slavery


[18-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If God is all-powerful, he can surely organize people to sneak the slaves out without terrorizing Egypt.


[18-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Pharoah chased after them anyways


[18-Nov-18 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
why do firstborn sons need to die?


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nile#1441
The Egyptians had slaughtered tons of Israelite children previously.


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nile#1441
For no reason


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
And? Revenge isn't okay.


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It definitely doesn't justify using terrorism over less evil alternatives.


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Does it matter to world whether a people live or die? Would would the importance of the Israelites be over the Hittites?


[18-Nov-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
What about Carthage?


[18-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nile#1441
Clearly they were not important, pagan realms.


[18-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
What makes them not important?


[18-Nov-18 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it because of who they worship, or because of their genes?


[18-Nov-18 10:35 PM] Nile#1441
It's doubtful genes mattered, and I'm not sure why you would mention that


[18-Nov-18 10:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
what has Isreal contributed that is worth us mourning their potential permanent slavery?


[18-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well if it's not genes


[18-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
the only difference between them and the Israelites of relevance is who they worship


[18-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
God wanted the people to win who worshipped him.


[18-Nov-18 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But why can't he peacably make them worship him?


[18-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why do they need to be kiled?


[18-Nov-18 10:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gawd works in mysterious ways.


[18-Nov-18 10:37 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not the one with all the answers.


[18-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a cop-out


[18-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nile#1441
It probably is, but there are times where my voice doesn't matter. And questioning the actions God had done a long time ago is not important.


[18-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Nile#1441
For me to ask.


[18-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_jL01IUfc

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surreal entertainment
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Ben Shapiro in a nutshell
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[18-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[18-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLKi5Z3JR8

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[18-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[18-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
people found guilty or pleading guilty are being billed by the city for the court costs incurred by the private law firm hired by the city


[18-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stage IV Metastatic Capitalism


[18-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
california actually passed a law prohibiting cities from passing on the cost of prosecution to the defendants for code violations


[18-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
but it doesn't apply retroactively to people currently already fighting those costs


[18-Nov-18 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/KeKEVRKEoms

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Transvaluation of All Values: You Are Not A Slave
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[18-Nov-18 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610

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[18-Nov-18 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw real-estate here has been bought up by Italian speculators looking to diversify their portfolio so they scoop up abandoned Detroit property and sit on it, waiting for cost to rise.


[18-Nov-18 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne what? sell it no one?


[18-Nov-18 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not yet.


[18-Nov-18 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
A big problem with real-estate in Detroit is not only that so many people walked away in the seventies without doing anything, so back taxes for decades is also owed, but because the cost of a plot was as low as a VCR at one point it all got bought up by speculators. These people don't do anything with the land and don't even live in the area, they're all from out of state or country. The property is added to their portfolios and will be sold when it can be sold at a profit. As a result, the land and everything on it just sort of rots.


[18-Nov-18 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
There are groups that alleviate this problem, like there's an Anarchist group of lawn keepers that go around the city and mostly mow the grass and clear underbrush in the city parks the city stopped maintaining. And you could argue arsonists are indirectly clearing up abandoned homes, though the threat of their wild burning made the city initiate a program of demolition to clear these abandoned homes and fill in the holes.


[18-Nov-18 11:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
But Detroit is a HUGE city in total land area. If all the property wasn't owned legitimate buyers could easily redevelop it at low cost and get everyone back into a home, or even get some of that land rezoned to accommodate for such programs as urban farming.


[18-Nov-18 11:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
But, too late. Shit's bought up by outsiders.


[18-Nov-18 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
The other option is squatting. I've heard people talk about just walking into abandoned places in Detroit and simply taking over. Fix it up, put out some beds. Get some defense against the repo man and/or get in touch with Redneck Revolt.


[18-Nov-18 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.redneckrevolt.org/

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[18-Nov-18 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
B L E S S


[18-Nov-18 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/18/trump-raking-wildfires-california-finland-1002526

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Finnish president denies ever discussing ‘raking’ with Trump
Trump promoted the dubious conservation method during his trip to California this weekend.
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[18-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
But President Sauli Niinistö of Finland told Ilta-Sanomat, the country’s second-largest newspaper, on Sunday that he never discussed raking with Trump during their brief meeting in Paris last weekend, where the leaders attended various commemorations marking the centennial of the armistice that ended World War I.


[18-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
“I mentioned [to] him that Finland is a land covered by forests and we also have a good monitoring system and network,” Niinistö said, adding that he recalled telling Trump: “We take care of our forests.”


[18-Nov-18 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds like trump assumes taking care of a forest is like how grounds keepers take care of his resort,hotel,casino lawns


[18-Nov-18 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStUCE354IE

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How we take care our forests in Finland?!
Mr.Trump said that Finnish people take care forests by raking! And he is right! This is what we do almost everyday!
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[18-Nov-18 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[18-Nov-18 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not enough yelling at bears though, so here I am to provide that also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7_pVrIshxA

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[FUNNY] Finnish man scares a bear away by shouting PERKELE [2017]
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[18-Nov-18 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My Summer Car is an accurate Suomi simulator


[19-Nov-18 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHys1jc2Png

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[19-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh god


[19-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I looked into the vortex of the alt right on youtube


[19-Nov-18 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/18/trump-says-he-was-fully-briefed-and-also-not-briefed-yet-either-way-saudi-crown i cant tell if this is satire or not...

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Trump Says He Was 'Fully Briefed' and Also 'Not Briefed Yet' But E...
Trump on Friday: "I've been fully briefed" but Crown Prince "absolutely" not involved. CIA, via Washington Post, later on Friday: Crown Prince definitely involved. Trump on Saturday: "We haven't been briefed yet."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/mbs_trump_khashoggi.jpg


[19-Nov-18 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that headline is several paradoxes going on at once


[19-Nov-18 06:27 AM] Arvid#8335
We need to have a Chairman Mao reading session together


[19-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/18/facing-suspension-by-governor-browards-election-chief-calls-it-quits-703498

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Facing suspension by governor, Broward's election chief calls it quits
Had she not quit, Brenda Snipes faced the likelihood of being forced into retirement.
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[19-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-politics-fuel-blockades/macrons-popularity-dips-as-french-fuel-tax-revolt-simmers-idUSKCN1NN0E1

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Macron's popularity dips as French fuel tax revolt simmers
Emmanuel Macron's popularity took a further hit in recent weeks, according ...


[19-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
apparently macron has a 25% approval rating


[19-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah, neoliberalism.


[19-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
and a 73% disapproval rating


[19-Nov-18 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLfrQhZ8XI

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Vivre Libre ou Mourir
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[19-Nov-18 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
ARE YOU MAD YET, FRANCE?


[19-Nov-18 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
YOU COULD HAVE   V I  V E    M A N


[19-Nov-18 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
COMRADE BY HOLOGRAPHIC PROJECTION


[19-Nov-18 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE FUTURE REVOLUTIONARY


[19-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Arvid#8335
I'm not surprised honestly. The best thing I can say about Macron as a politician is that he at least stopped Le Pen from winning.


[19-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Arvid#8335
I mean, I guess I'd rather have neoliberalism than fascism


[19-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macron showed some promise then went full Classical Liberal on everyone


[19-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Simultaneously, he let his ministers make ridiculous SJUW statements while he tried to remove taxes from existence and let capitalism grind workers in its gears


[19-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a country known for not letting capitalism do that.


[19-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Arvid#8335
Some of his policies from the start where kind of sketchy, he wanted to make the legal work hour in France "more flexible" for example. Multiple different ways that could be interpreted.


[19-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Arvid#8335
But I mean, you know where he's really getting at.


[19-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flexible enuff for businesses to break it.


[19-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah


[19-Nov-18 06:55 AM] Arvid#8335

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[19-Nov-18 06:55 AM] Arvid#8335
Sorry Rosa Luxemburg


[19-Nov-18 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-din-rich-drown-cries-poor-59276074?cid=clicksource_76_4_article%20roll_articleroll_hed

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Pope decries that 'wealthy few' feast on what belongs to all
Championing the cause of the poor, Pope Francis on Sunday lamented that "the wealthy few" enjoy what, "in justice, belongs to all" and said Christians cannot remain indifferent to the growing cries of the exploited and the indigent, including migrants. Francis invited about 6...
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[19-Nov-18 01:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Nov-18 01:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie


[19-Nov-18 01:30 PM] byte[]#2610
👌


[19-Nov-18 02:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Wish i could have 5 guns

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[19-Nov-18 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/chicken-pox-flare-up-in-north-carolina-highlights-public-health-vulnerabilities-created-by-anti-vaccination-movement/

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Chicken Pox Flare-Up In North Carolina Highlights Public Health Vu...
The outbreak at a North Carolina school where many families have chosen to claim religious exemption from vaccines is now ranked as the worst in the state’s history since the vaccine became a…
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[19-Nov-18 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure religious freedom shoudl cover antivax sentiment


[19-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also why woudl you send you child to school wirth the chickenpox


[19-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who does this?


[19-Nov-18 03:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly it does


[19-Nov-18 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[19-Nov-18 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well atleast it's far awayn form my town


[19-Nov-18 04:01 PM] HwanyPlayz#8751
oof


[19-Nov-18 04:02 PM] HwanyPlayz#8751
Anti-vaccinators...I really hate those kinds people


[19-Nov-18 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[19-Nov-18 04:02 PM] HwanyPlayz#8751
They seem to be ignorant to ignore that their child has chicken pox


[19-Nov-18 04:03 PM] HwanyPlayz#8751
Or even tried to know what's going on with their child


[19-Nov-18 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but chicken pox is better than autism"


[19-Nov-18 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vaccines dont even cause autism


[19-Nov-18 05:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
Chicken pox is not better then autism


[19-Nov-18 05:26 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
bc autism isn't contagious lol


[19-Nov-18 05:27 PM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
so even if supposedly vaccines caused autism at least autism can't be spread around like chicken pox can


[19-Nov-18 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
It depends on the kind of autism


[19-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anti vaxxers are just like the rest of the anti scince croud


[19-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Stupid morons who drag down humanty


[19-Nov-18 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If you are anti scince you are anti humanty


[19-Nov-18 06:06 PM] Arvid#8335
^This


[19-Nov-18 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-was-hoping-to-be-retired-the-cost-of-supporting-parents-and-adult-children-1542381023

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‘I Was Hoping to Be Retired’: The Cost of Supporting Parents a...
More Americans find themselves housing two generations simultaneously, just when they thought they could kick back and retire. Instead, they face the strain of added expenses, constant caregiving and derailed dreams.
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[19-Nov-18 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Many parents of boomers reached retirement age in the mid-1990s, as companies were cutting back on pensions and leaving their retirees to fend for themselves with Social Security and 401(k) plans. Marlene and Jim never built up a financial cushion. They had a bit of savings and Social Security. Marlene used to pray: “God, please don’t let me get sick before 65, because we don’t have any money to pay the bill.”'


[19-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Four months after Marlene moved in, in August 2015, Barb’s daughter, Rebecca Wilkins, moved into the other basement bedroom.

Rebecca had moved out years earlier, managing an apartment building for work while kayaking and rappelling for fun, with a snorting laugh that itself made her snort with laughter.

Then, at age 25, old medical conditions flared up. She had been born with spina bifida and other spinal problems. She started having seizures. Back surgery left her with so much scar tissue that she is now inoperable. She blew two discs in her back.'


[19-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what a society that favors the profits of a wealthy few over actually caring for its sick and elderly and giving its young people a future looks like.


[19-Nov-18 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It ain't pretty.


[19-Nov-18 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/business/the-long-term-cost-when-graduates-move-back-home.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/business/the-long-term-cost-when-graduates-move-back-home.html
The Long-Term Cost When Graduates Move Back Home
Living in your childhood bedroom? Actually, young adults who are given financial help instead of living rent-free at home do better professionally.
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[19-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[19-Nov-18 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it might have something to do with being able to move where the opportunities you want are located


[19-Nov-18 06:32 PM] Crow#5457
the other possible reason has to do with just being a wealthier family


[19-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely both


[19-Nov-18 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Job opportunities havn't been increasing evenly, @Crow


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big cities like Seattle and New York and Los Angeles hav been creating jobs over time


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
the rural areas hav not


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're stagnant.


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
remember when people said that the $15 an hour would kill seattle


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tech companies go to the cities because the workers there are both more numerous and more productive


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
because being near other tech workers creates an exchange of ideas that increases productivity


[19-Nov-18 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
like even at the time, the current studies had said that such a rapid increase in minimum wage would hurt their economy


[19-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
but it's massively helped


[19-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the businesses all stealing each others' ideas helps growth for everyone


[19-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much if you make it to a big city


[19-Nov-18 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
you either become homeless and then "lol who cares let 'em die"


[19-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
or you actually get a decent job and then economists sing the song of success


[19-Nov-18 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to ultracapitalism


[19-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And having wealthy parents gets you connections that get you work


[19-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
nobody hires on actual merit alone


[19-Nov-18 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and when they do, they can just find someone better in their big metro area)


[19-Nov-18 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, I didn't finish typing it, but just the "just being a wealthier family" part is more than enough


[19-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
being born rich is the only way to have a decent chance of actually "making it" in the US


[19-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
jesus, I didn't realize it last time, but PG&E (the power company in california) stock is down at 2003 levels now


[19-Nov-18 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
because the big fire before the camp fire was caused by bad PG&E power lines


[19-Nov-18 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
and might've also caused the camp fire


[19-Nov-18 06:48 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason its stocks aren't still falling is because california's utility regulatory body announced they'd bail out PG&E if they're held liable for the billions of dollars in damage caused


[19-Nov-18 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Super+smash+bros+ww2+edition_addb25_5601938.jpg

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[19-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozAPGnr-934

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Real Engineering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozAPGnr-934
Why The US Military Made GPS Free-To-Use
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[19-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
apparently US taxpayers paid $12 billion to launch the constellation


[19-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
and pays $2 million a day to maintain it


[19-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
that's $730 million a year


[19-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
and the whole world can use it for free


[19-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Crow#5457
what can I say


[19-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Crow#5457
except


[19-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Crow#5457
you're welcome


[19-Nov-18 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
... What about them needs to be maintained?


[19-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
http://nation.time.com/2012/05/21/how-much-does-gps-cost/

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How Much Does GPS Cost? | TIME.com
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[19-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
idk


[19-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
…the annual operating cost of the Pentagon’s Global Positioning System, according to a new Congressional Research Service report. GPS is a constellation of 24 satellites that now can tell everyone where he or she is in the world (the initial constellation cost $12 billion to put into orbit). The operating cost works out to just over $2 million a day. Quite a bargain when you think about it.


[19-Nov-18 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.gps.gov/policy/funding/2017/

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GPS.gov: Fiscal Year 2017 Program Funding
Fiscal Year 2017 funding levels for the Global Positioning System (GPS) program and GPS augmentations


[19-Nov-18 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[19-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
New sats need to be launched


[19-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
ground stations need to monitor and direct


[19-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
people need to maintain those stations and plan


[19-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's very expensive to run satellite networks


[19-Nov-18 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/19/christmas-crisis-kill-dinner-work-abattoir-industry-psychological-physical-damage

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There’s a Christmas crisis going on: no one wants to kill your d...
People don’t want to work in abattoirs any more, says journalist Chas Newkey-Burden
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[19-Nov-18 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
>"Slaughterhouse work has been linked to a variety of disorders, including post-traumatic stress disorder and the lesser-known perpetration-induced traumatic stress. It has also been connected to higher incidents of domestic violence, as well as alcohol and drug abuse. A pig slaughterer said the “worst thing” about the work is its “emotional toll”. He explained: “Pigs down on the kill floor have come up and nuzzled me like a puppy. Two minutes later I had to kill them – beat them to death with a pipe.” A worker at a chicken plant said one of his colleagues was “hauled off to the mental hospital” after he “kept having nightmares that chickens were after him”.


[19-Nov-18 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
>There is also a physical toll. Earlier this year, the Health and Safety Executive said the slaughter industry was at the “top end” of its “concern level” for injury rates. Its study found that in six years, 800 UK abattoir workers suffered serious injuries, 78 required amputations and four died while at work.


[19-Nov-18 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
>EU migrants make up 69% of Britain’s meat processing workforce – and unions believe this means many have little knowledge of their rights or how to complain. A study by the Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority warned that criminal groups were trafficking foreign nationals to the UK to provide labour for the slaughter racket. That chicken-plant worker said most of his colleagues were illiterate."


[19-Nov-18 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
I thought europe had tighter animal cruelty regulations


[19-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
what kind of inefficient shitshow has people beating pigs to death with pipes?


[19-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK


[19-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK resists EU regulation while also pushing for it to be stricter


[19-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK simultaneously hates immigrants and brings them in to work


[19-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK attitude is to drown everyone in paperwork and not actually do the inspections


[19-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, there is something massively wrong with anglo culture, @Crow


[19-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK and US are shitty in many similar ways, they approach things in ways that create massive problems where business and culture intersect.


[19-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
probably the result of massive colonialism


[19-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, I don't think that's it


[19-Nov-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
multiple other countries did colonialism


[19-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's any empire that was larger than the UK's


[19-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
the UK still has the imperial ego


[19-Nov-18 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
even though it doesn't have the power anymore


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I don't think that's it


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
this doesn't come up much in relations with former colonies


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor with like Canada


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's nothing to do with *having had* an empire


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's something that I think *caused* wanting an empire


[19-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the particular way they did colonialism


[19-Nov-18 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's some underlying cultural bundle with ethnocentrism at the center and some kind of view of the "other" as useful peasants in it.


[19-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/cleveland-judge-lance-mason-arrested-wife-murder.html

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[19-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[19-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
first of all, why didn't she divorce him


[19-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
second of all, how long between his release and her death did it take for him to kill her


[19-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
> Fraser filed for divorce after the assault but it was not finalized at the time of her death. According to WKYC, she had taught sixth grade at a local elementary school for two decades.


[19-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
>filed for divorce in 2014


[19-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
>didn't finalize


[19-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
humans are really stupid for being the smartest species on the planet


[19-Nov-18 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wasn't finalized by him or her?


[19-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
her


[19-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
fraser is her maiden name


[19-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the problem with america and the UK is the insane cravign for power but none of the fucks required to properly utilize it for the country itself


[19-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not the full problem but it is a part of it


[19-Nov-18 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem is the power is held by lazy fucks who don't want to actually do their job and sweep problems under the rug and then ignore it for decades until the rug is at ceiling level and can;t hold anymore dust under it, yet soemhow aren't lazy when it comes to attempting sabotage on all those who try to take the power but arent lazy about it


[19-Nov-18 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
I generally don't care, but new political meme quiz. http://www.politicalsextant.com/


[19-Nov-18 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=-2&4=2&5=-1&6=-1&7=-1&8=-2&9=0&10=-2&11=1&12=2&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=1&18=1&19=2&20=-2&21=2&22=-1&23=0&24=2&25=1&26=0&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=-1&34=2&35=2&36=1&37=-1&38=-1&39=-2


[19-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Nile#1441
I remember doing this one I think


[19-Nov-18 11:50 PM] Nile#1441
Yeah I did


[19-Nov-18 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=-1&3=-1&4=2&5=2&6=2&7=0&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-2&12=1&13=0&14=2&16=1&17=-2&18=2&19=1&20=0&21=2&22=1&23=-2&24=2&25=2&26=2&27=-2&28=2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=-2&34=-2&35=-1&36=2&37=-2&38=-2&39=-1


[20-Nov-18 12:03 AM] Nile#1441
I only have pictures of my results, so bear with me


[20-Nov-18 12:04 AM] Nile#1441

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[20-Nov-18 12:04 AM] Nile#1441

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[20-Nov-18 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[20-Nov-18 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is third way


[20-Nov-18 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
and "guild socialism"


[20-Nov-18 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.politicalsciencenotes.com/essay/guild-socialism-exponents-basic-tenets-and-other-details/396

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Guild Socialism: Exponents, Basic Tenets and Other Details
Guild socialism is a compromise between syndicalism and collectivism: Guild socialism, which was the intellectual child of English fabianism and syndicalism, took birth in the first and second decades of the twentieth century. This is a middle way between collectivism and syn...


[20-Nov-18 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

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Third Way
The Third Way is a position akin to centrism that tries to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of some centre-right economic and some centre-left social policies. The Third Way was created as a re-evaluation of political policies with...
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[20-Nov-18 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Guild Socialism basically sounds like a lite form of these guys:

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[20-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Crow#5457

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[20-Nov-18 12:10 AM] Crow#5457

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[20-Nov-18 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
what does it mean when all three of your top ideologies are 75%


[20-Nov-18 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
You agree with 3/4 of their tenants.


[20-Nov-18 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
The idea I think behind the "more reading" link and the book suggestion(s) is for you to go on and look into them and find out what exactly you believe in.


[20-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
I meant in terms of "there is no one single ideology which fits you"


[20-Nov-18 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
that's like 90% of my problem with life


[20-Nov-18 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
almost every one of these online quiz sort of things I take always ends up being "oh you're like 3-4 things" instead of "exactly one thing fits you"


[20-Nov-18 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
in terms of like ideology, D&D alignment, etc


[20-Nov-18 12:21 AM] Nile#1441
You don't gotta put yourself into a box.


[20-Nov-18 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/us/mercy-hospital-chicago-shooting/index.html

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Chicago police respond to reports of active shooter at Mercy Hospital
A police officer has been shot and multiple victims have been reported in a shooting at Chicago's Mercy Hospital, the department said Monday.
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[20-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
who was it who called a hospital shooting


[20-Nov-18 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
"Remember, no Loss"


[20-Nov-18 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nile#1441
l o s s


[20-Nov-18 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me i think


[20-Nov-18 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
instant loss 1koma


[20-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump just endorsed nancy pelosi


[20-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2018/11/18/trump-endorses-pelosi-for-house-speaker-can-you-believe-it/

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Trump endorses Pelosi for House speaker: ‘Can you believe it?’
She’s the Republicans’ whipping gal — but President Trump said Saturday that he endorses Nancy Pelosi wholeheartedly as House speaker. “I can get Nancy Pelosi as many votes as she wants in order fo…
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[20-Nov-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think that's a good sign to not vote for her


[20-Nov-18 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it's self-serving


[20-Nov-18 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
trump endorses her to draw public ire of her and against especially against the democrats if they elect her as speaker again


[20-Nov-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he knows if he endorses her the rest of them will vote against her?


[20-Nov-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
makes sense


[20-Nov-18 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
she'll probably be elected speaker


[20-Nov-18 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
main problem atm is that the rest of the democrats are too cowardly to put themselves forward as speaker


[20-Nov-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[20-Nov-18 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem is that she's _incredibly_ unpopular outside her own district


[20-Nov-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailywire.com/news/38520/gov-jerry-brown-quietly-admits-trump-was-right-emily-zanotti?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

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Gov. Jerry Brown Quietly Admits Trump Was Right, Eases California ...
California Gov. Jerry Brown appears to have quietly admitted President Donald Trump's suggestion about improving California forestry was correct and is now urging state lawmakers to loosen restrictive logging regulations put in place to appease environmentalists.
https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph/public/gettyimages-1060030978.jpg?itok=YI966zhA


[20-Nov-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/18/california-fires-gov-brown-says-trump-has-got-out-back/2047825002/

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Gov. Brown: Trump has 'got our back' after California wildfires
Brown spoke a day after Trump visited the burned-out remains of Paradise, until recently a city of 27,000 that was essentially destroyed when a wildfire roared through two weeks ago. The Camp Fire has killed 77 people and destroyed more 10,300 homes in the area.
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[20-Nov-18 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Can't start forest fires if there are no forests :^) :^) :^)


[20-Nov-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Anyway, that's not the problem


[20-Nov-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
There's no fucking water there


[20-Nov-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Everything is dry as a constipated shit


[20-Nov-18 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And not only that but it's less the trees burning and more the under brush.


[20-Nov-18 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And brush fires are natural.


[20-Nov-18 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
We just built in their way.


[20-Nov-18 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now, if the weather currents were fucked so it would rain in California: that'd be nice.


[20-Nov-18 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though I also heard it said we may be cycling back into California's dry period, the area has gone into periods of wet and dry weather. We just happened to settle California during a wet period and now we're shocked that the patterns in the tree rings are happening.


[20-Nov-18 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-1&2=-2&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=2&7=2&8=-2&9=1&10=-1&11=0&12=2&13=1&14=2&16=2&17=-2&18=1&19=-1&20=-1&21=2&22=-1&23=-1&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=0&34=-1&35=-2&36=2&37=2&38=1&39=2


[20-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My results


[20-Nov-18 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mutualism? What?


[20-Nov-18 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's pretty early modern Anarchism, the basis of which is the statement: "Property is theft"


[20-Nov-18 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So syndicalism?


[20-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between liberal socialism and guild socialism?


[20-Nov-18 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta. It proposes that workers should run the factory and enjoy the profits of it, but that markets should exist as under capitalism.


[20-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't disagree with that at all.


[20-Nov-18 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow "Some things collectivized are good, others not" vs what I imagine to be "The workers run the shop as like an old guild"


[20-Nov-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worker owned production is the ideal.


[20-Nov-18 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking There's some other things that come up that Proudhon gets shit on by later writers. Marx not only criticizes his historical world view and the like but also wrote criticizing the model of the cooperative at his time, which may have come from Mutualism, where while the worker shares the profit of the enterprise, only does his single task like he would under capitalism and doesn't organize with his fellows to do a broader and unalienated range of tasks.


[20-Nov-18 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
its, maybe you picked something that made it think that you really dislike anarchism or something


[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)

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Mutualism (economic theory)
Mutualism is an economic theory and anarchist school of thought that advocates a society with free markets and occupation and use, or usufruct property norms. One implementation of this scheme involves the establishment of a mutual-credit bank that would lend to producers at ...
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[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the state needs prominent roles so maybe


[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The state needs to exist


[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
for some reason, it's listed under guild socialism on wikipedia


[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_socialism

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Guild socialism
Guild socialism is a political movement advocating workers' control of industry through the medium of trade-related guilds "in an implied contractual relationship with the public". It originated in the United Kingdom and was at its most influential in the first quarter of the...
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[20-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And be strong


[20-Nov-18 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Proudhon's other big thing was alternative power, I forget the official terminology but basically means: worker's unions to counter the power of the boss, member-owned banks to counter the interests of the private bankers, and whole informal networks that exist outside of government, like community non-state welfare; or mutual aid if you're an AnCom.


[20-Nov-18 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
The guild socialists "stood for state ownership of industry, combined with ‘workers’ control’ through delegation of authority to national guilds organized internally on democratic lines. About the state itself they differed, some believing it would remain more or less in its existing form and others that it would be transformed into a federal body representing the workers’ guilds, consumers’ organizations, local government bodies, and other social structures."


[20-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
mutualism seems like guild socialism without a central government


[20-Nov-18 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to left politics, were the details are murky but the general idea is the same.


[20-Nov-18 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'm a radical centrist though


[20-Nov-18 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
the left calls me a nazi, and the right calls me a SJW cuck


[20-Nov-18 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He doesn't ironically praise the Maoist aesthetic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FSj7RuqGU

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[20-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
one of the things I wonder is if the nazi party would've had as easy of a time getting into power as it did if lenin hadn't died or if trotsky had taken over


[20-Nov-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
stalin didn't want to help fund and spread communism, but lenin and trotsky did


[20-Nov-18 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
The better question would could they have had Russia beat Poland the first time through in order to get to and support Rosa Luxembourg.


[20-Nov-18 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think that was their rationale for invading Poland


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
lenin also advocated for limited capitalism like what china is currently doing after consolidating power


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
but stalin threw that idea out


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
That was a response to the Kronstadt rebellion


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
lenin said that the country couldn't handle any more communism at the time


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
and he was right


[20-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR probably would still be a world power if stalin hadn't gained power when he did


[20-Nov-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=0&4=2&5=-1&6=2&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=2&12=0&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=-2&18=0&19=2&20=1&21=2&22=2&23=-1&24=2&25=2&26=0&27=-2&28=-1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=0&34=1&35=-2&36=0&37=-2&38=0&39=1
I am a marxist communalist


[20-Nov-18 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
> B O O K C H I N


[20-Nov-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo what communalism is


[20-Nov-18 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
👏


[20-Nov-18 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) Emphasis on the town, or the polis. A democracy focused primarily on town-hall style meetings for the community or the district. Means of production and all that are owned by the community.


[20-Nov-18 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[20-Nov-18 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bookchin emphasized also environmental practices.


[20-Nov-18 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you got three hours to kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_jfS4Q-k30

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Murray Bookchin "Visions of a New Society" Interview 10/18/93
Author Murray Bookchin was interviewed by Doug Morris on October 18, 1993.
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[20-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
lenin had better facial hair than stalin anyway


[20-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, take the quiz thingy


[20-Nov-18 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Communalism is also the ruling model of the Kurds of Northern Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRkSdX1ItA

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[20-Nov-18 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
B I J I    L I B E R T A R I A N    C O M R A D E S


[20-Nov-18 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Nov-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=0&2=1&3=-2&4=2&5=-2&6=2&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=1&19=2&20=-1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=-1&28=1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=-2&35=-1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=0


[20-Nov-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems I'm Third Way


[20-Nov-18 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
another radical centrist


[20-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally lol


[20-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho I do support income redistribution


[20-Nov-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm a little more left than Third Way


[20-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Arvid#8335
This quiz is shit, they don't even have the *L E F T C O M  G A N G* listed on it


[20-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
seems like the most common disliked ideology to pop up here is paleoconservatism


[20-Nov-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/11/19/goldman-sachs-believes-the-us-economy-will-slow-to-a-crawl-next-year.html

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Goldman Sachs believes the US economy will slow to a crawl next year
Goldman sees economic growth slowing to below 2 percent in the second half of 2019 as the Fed continues to raise rates and the effects of the tax cut wear off.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/11/09/105565876-1541791814886gettyimages-588166060.1910x1000.jpeg


[20-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, paleocons literally believe the gov't should stop blakks from being prominent in society


[20-Nov-18 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Arvid If the quiz had more questions about historical narrative and forms of valuewould it be better, I wonder? 🤔


[20-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I get the feeling that trump is going to try and force something to keep the economy growing fast


[20-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
which would just end up crashing the economy again


[20-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole deal is like WHITE CHRISTIANS FREE OF GOVERNMENT TELLING THEM WHAT THEY CAN'T DO


[20-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially Nixon


[20-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt knwo jackshit about economics quite frankly


[20-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives hate cortez for having a bachelor's in economics


[20-Nov-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"durrr, dah monies gots ins mah walets so's dah economies is gudz right?"


[20-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways @Nebbie, I got 75% guild socialism, 75% social democracy, and 75% third way, so I guess that means I truly am a radical centrist


[20-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[20-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like Keynesian economics


[20-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you're a SOCIALIST


[20-Nov-18 01:47 AM] Arvid#8335
And where's Nazbol, Juche, or Posadism


[20-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas I'm...more centrist and heavily marxist apparently


[20-Nov-18 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm a little dissapointed i didnt get social democracy but fair enough


[20-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[20-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because you're really Marxist


[20-Nov-18 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
The percentages represent not a component, like 3/4 something and a 1/4 something else, but the whole of what the quiz maker I suppose thinks you allign with based on answers.


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
none of the three are even truly socialist


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weird


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marxism I think isn't too compatible with democracy


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i wasnt expectign as much marxism as i got


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it doesn't trust the people


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas social democracy does


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am perturbed there's so few questions, as I said before one could go into questions pertaining to historical narrative and views of forms of value.


[20-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Arvid#8335
Marxism is just an analysis of capitalism


[20-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Arvid#8335
It doesn't "distrust people"


[20-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
third way is centrist, social democracy is centrist, guild socialism isn't even true socialism and doesn't care about whether there's a strong central government or not


[20-Nov-18 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He thinks Marxism isn't compatible with democracy when a review of Capital and his writings will review a compatibility with democracy


[20-Nov-18 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[20-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie http://www.politicalsciencenotes.com/essay/guild-socialism-exponents-basic-tenets-and-other-details/396

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http://www.politicalsciencenotes.com/essay/guild-socialism-exponents-basic-tenets-and-other-details/396
Guild Socialism: Exponents, Basic Tenets and Other Details
Guild socialism is a compromise between syndicalism and collectivism: Guild socialism, which was the intellectual child of English fabianism and syndicalism, took birth in the first and second decades of the twentieth century. This is a middle way between collectivism and syn...


[20-Nov-18 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
>All Guild Socialists agree that the state should not interfere in economic matters, because they want to place the management of economic matters of the society in the hands of the Guilds.


[20-Nov-18 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what happens if i jsut agree with all the questions ont he quiz


[20-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
choosing all "agree" gets "Fully Automated Syndicalist Luxury Gay Nationalist Space Communism with yeasty characteristics"


[20-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=2&4=2&5=2&6=2&7=2&8=2&9=2&10=2&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=2&18=2&19=2&20=2&21=2&22=2&23=2&24=2&25=2&26=2&27=2&28=2&29=2&30=2&31=2&32=2&33=2&34=2&35=2&36=2&37=2&38=2&39=2


[20-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, WALL-E


[20-Nov-18 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yup


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Congratulations. You are 100% aligned with
Fully Automated Syndicalist Luxury Gay Nationalist Space Communism with yeasty characteristics


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except the captain is Stalin


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
And "more information" rick rolls you


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Try all disagree


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Doing that now


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
will do


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
"Bloody Contrarian"


[20-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=-2&3=-2&4=-2&5=-2&6=-2&7=-2&8=-2&9=-2&10=-2&11=-2&12=-2&13=-2&14=-2&16=-2&17=-2&18=-2&19=-2&20=-2&21=-2&22=-2&23=-2&24=-2&25=-2&26=-2&27=-2&28=-2&29=-2&30=-2&31=-2&32=-2&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-2&37=-2&38=-2&39=-2


[20-Nov-18 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Congratulations. You
Either did not fill in the quiz, or have absolutely no opinions about anything
More information


[20-Nov-18 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
ROFL, THIS IS THE "MORE INFORMATION" FOR BLOODY CONTRARIAN <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ>


[20-Nov-18 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's the more info for all the meme results


[20-Nov-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now to do slightly agree


[20-Nov-18 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
I ain't got time for that. I got to eat and get to some reading.


[20-Nov-18 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to finish Dark Alliance in a timely manner


[20-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
slightly agree is the same as agree


[20-Nov-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw same as fully agree


[20-Nov-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dangit


[20-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
One from someone in another Discord who thinks Down With Molestia was 100% justified and tends to go on about how the state needs to be reformed and cooperatives etc. http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=-1&4=2&5=0&6=-2&7=-2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=-1&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=0&18=-2&19=2&20=0&21=2&22=-2&23=-2&24=2&25=1&26=-1&27=-2&28=-2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=1&33=-2&34=1&35=2&36=2&37=1&38=0&39=-2


[20-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Synthesis anarchism 100%

More information

Suggested reading: Placeholders for Dummies'


[20-Nov-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The link is a rickroll too lol


[20-Nov-18 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Neozapatismo


[20-Nov-18 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds more liek a magician stage name


[20-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>looks up Neozapatismo on Wiki


[20-Nov-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>"Economics
Main article: Anti-capitalism"


[20-Nov-18 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) https://youtu.be/O3pHmHbqqTk

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Interview with Subcomandante Marcos of the EZLN
Interview with Subcomandante Marcos, military leader and spokesperson for the Zapatista Army of National Liberation ( EZLN ). By Kerry Appel. January 1997. W...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O3pHmHbqqTk/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, I'm not sure Third Way is really accurate for me


[20-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reading up on it, it's mostly tied to Bill Clinton's economic policies (which I despise) and Emmanual Macron (similar)


[20-Nov-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think something about my approach makes it seem Third Way when it's actually pretty much Social Democracy


[20-Nov-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
My recommendation would be to go out and read, and retake.


[20-Nov-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And since we're all here, I'mma repost my results: http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=-2&4=2&5=-1&6=-1&7=-1&8=-2&9=0&10=-2&11=1&12=2&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=1&18=1&19=2&20=-2&21=2&22=-1&23=0&24=2&25=1&26=0&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=-1&34=2&35=2&36=1&37=-1&38=-1&39=-2


[20-Nov-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is take 2, which all I think I did was change 1 or 2 answers to be less affirmative: http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=2&3=-1&4=2&5=-1&6=-1&7=-1&8=-2&9=1&10=-2&11=1&12=2&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=-1&18=2&19=2&20=1&21=2&22=-1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=-1&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=-2&34=2&35=2&36=2&37=2&38=-1&39=-2


[20-Nov-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
As with a lot of self-diagnoses tests your results may differ based on mood or any uncontrolled personal factors, so my belief on these memes is to take them several times at different moments and see how they differ and sort of average them out.


[20-Nov-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
There was a Russian Revolution version of the compass test too, which put me about where I would expect all-in-all. Praise Vilnya Territoriya.

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[20-Nov-18 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to use this new test as a sort of reading guide to help expand the horizons, I see no legitimate complaint there. Though I'd argue to not take the Communist Manifesto seriously, it's more of a period pamphlet than a long-lived treatise like the Bread Book/Conquest of Bread or all three volumes of Das Kapital. The Manifesto is perhaps said to be best for historical value and to what the First International was oriented to in the mid 19th century.


[20-Nov-18 02:26 AM] Nile#1441
I'm gonna retake my sextant since I took it months ago


[20-Nov-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Böök time

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[20-Nov-18 02:29 AM] ononim#8141
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[20-Nov-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Praise be to Natalie, our queer goddess


[20-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Nile#1441
wew


[20-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Nile#1441
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=1&3=2&4=-2&5=-1&6=2&7=1&8=1&9=2&10=1&11=2&12=-2&13=-2&14=1&16=-2&17=-1&18=-2&19=0&20=-1&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=1&28=1&29=-1&30=1&31=2&32=1&33=0&34=-2&35=-1&36=-2&37=-2&38=2&39=2


[20-Nov-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Arvid got your Juche supporter


[20-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Nile#1441
I don't know why it suggests me Juche, I don't know what I even agree with it on.


[20-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Arvid#8335
Nile is *J U C H E  G A N G*


[20-Nov-18 02:37 AM] Nile#1441
And what is integralism


[20-Nov-18 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[20-Nov-18 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
Best Korea IS a heraldic monarchy


[20-Nov-18 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
And absolute one even


[20-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Nile#1441
But what is Juche


[20-Nov-18 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
Best Korea's national ideology


[20-Nov-18 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
But I know jack shit about what actually it has sans self suficency


[20-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Nile#1441
I know but I don't know what it stands for


[20-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Nile#1441
@Arvid Help


[20-Nov-18 02:41 AM] ononim#8141
Integralism is a weird Brazilian fascism with Catholic characteristics afaik


[20-Nov-18 02:41 AM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 huepill our Juche boi


[20-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Arvid#8335
http://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html @Nile


[20-Nov-18 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Juche is basically defense of North Korea and preservation of its Maoist-Nationalist revolution or something something


[20-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Nile#1441
Weird


[20-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Juche is about extreme isolation and self-reliance


[20-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically an excuse to say North Korea is best Korea


[20-Nov-18 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/criminal-justice-reform-finally-has-chance-congress-here-s-what-n936866

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Criminal justice reform finally has a chance in Congress. Here’s...
Analysis: Thousands of well-behaved prisoners would win freedom earlier under the bill.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_46/2647936/181115-donald-trump-paul-cell-first-step-act-ew-158p_0639c011d50f7395c52f2580929d6ada.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[20-Nov-18 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
IS he actually doing a good-ish thing?


[20-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta


[20-Nov-18 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a very mixed bag bill


[20-Nov-18 02:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Very fine people will be let out early for good behaviour.


[20-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically this bill amounts to "okay, instead of putting blakks away their whole lives, how about 3/5ths?"


[20-Nov-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but only for the newly-convicted


[20-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it also makes the cocaine sentencing reforms (that only went halfway on making crakk and powder the same) retroactive...8 years later, when it will hav basically no effect


[20-Nov-18 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a start if nothing else. At the end of the day it would be nice to have the non-violent offenders put in for life for a ounce of weed to get a hearing to be let out.


[20-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so pretty much it's a compromise between Conservatives saying we sohuld continue to put blakks in jail en masse forever


[20-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Liberals saying we shouldn't


[20-Nov-18 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so instead we'll de a good ol' 3/5ths


[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile other republicans are trying to pass a bill to bring about more for profit prisons into existance while rolling back consent laws


[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What consent laws?


[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
On an unrelated note https://www.newsweek.com/does-star-wars-endorse-political-republican-democrat-498365

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What are the politics of 'Star Wars'?
The epic space saga Star Wars has elements for both liberals and conservatives.
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[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
consent i think meaning the voluntary sttus of prisoners who work in for profit prisons


[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Star Wars is liberal


[20-Nov-18 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
incredibly so


[20-Nov-18 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in places has direct allegory for why conservatives in the US are fukking horrid


[20-Nov-18 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could be wrogn though


[20-Nov-18 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to have some more reading fun.

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[20-Nov-18 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What bill is it?


[20-Nov-18 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since info is related but I'm not hand typing this out for you


[20-Nov-18 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll find it


[20-Nov-18 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t think it is a bill it hink it;s just republicans working with corporates to back more private prisons


[20-Nov-18 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/11/stung-by-trump-and-midterms-the-koch-network-changes-its-approach/ http://time.com/5458861/criminal-justice-reform-koch-network/

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Stung by Trump and midterms, the Koch network changes its approach
After clashing with the Republican president and enduring a bruising midterm at the hands of reenergized Democrats, the Koch network is rethinking its strategy.
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Conservatives Aren't Giving Up on Criminal Justice Reform Just Yet
A Koch-backed group keeps pushing for legislation.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/senate-republicans-criminal-justice-reform.jpg?quality=85


[20-Nov-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these arent related to the private prisont hing but it;s other sides of that reform bill story


[20-Nov-18 03:17 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna938101

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Think this was a bad year for climate disasters? Just wait
“The evidence was absolutely mind-blowing to me," said the lead researcher.
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[20-Nov-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/19/ivanka-trump-used-a-private-email-to-discuss-government-business.html

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Ivanka Trump used a private email account to discuss government bu...
A spokesman for Trump's ethics counsel said the president's daughter "sometimes used her private account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family."
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[20-Nov-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah natural disasters are goign to keep gettign worse


[20-Nov-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trump-recalls-troops-southern-border-reports-emerged-extremely-bored/


[20-Nov-18 03:24 AM] Arvid#8335
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE EMAILS


[20-Nov-18 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to politics, where the emails dont matter and the facts are made up


[20-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thinkprogress.org/wisconsin-skewed-2018-results-anthony-kennedy-98060a6a19e9/

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Ian Millhiser
https://thinkprogress.org/wisconsin-skewed-2018-results-anthony-kennedy-98060a6a19e9
Wisconsin no longer has democratic legislative elections thanks to...
Residents of the Badger State have the retired Justice Anthony Kennedy to thank for this calamity.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/GettyImages-1051528328.jpg?w=1280&h=720&crop=1


[20-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[20-Nov-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wisconsin's gerrymandering has just handed Republicans in the state a supermajority despite losing the popular vote


[20-Nov-18 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[20-Nov-18 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the same thign happened with north carolina and pennsylvania


[20-Nov-18 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy who did it in north carolina is up for a vote to make him a federal level judge


[20-Nov-18 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article221733035.html

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Democrats prepare for fight over Senate vote on Farr, Trump’s pi...
Thomas Farr is expected to get a confirmation vote in the Senate before the end of the year. Twice nominated by President Donald Trump as a judge, he has been in limbo since advancing through committee.
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[20-Nov-18 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this guy is responsible for the gerrymandering map of nroth carolina


[20-Nov-18 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/18/pennsylvania-north-carolina-election-results-illus/

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Pennsylvania, North Carolina election results illustrate power of gerr
The sharply contrasting outcomes that resulted on Election Day in Pennsylvania and North Carolina illustrate the importance of how political lines are drawn - and the stakes for the nation because tha
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[20-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/417477-controversial-trump-refugee-official-changes-jobs

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Trump's top refugee official takes new job at HHS
Scott Lloyd, the controversial Trump administration official in charge of refugee children at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), is taking on a new role at the agency.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/lloydscott_102717getty.jpg


[20-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Between March and Dec. 19 of last year, Lloyd denied seven requests for abortions, according to depositions released by the ACLU in February, including for a minor who was raped.'


[20-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
'In his new job, Lloyd said he will be involved with how communities and faith-based groups can play a role in achieving HHS's priorities, "which will improve the health and well-being of the American people."'


[20-Nov-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This man should be in jail.


[20-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely he will go on to push his terrible values upon others as part of HHS


[20-Nov-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/19/669331010/airbnb-plans-to-remove-listings-in-israeli-settlements

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Airbnb Plans To Remove Listings In Israeli Settlements
Israeli Tourism Minister Yariv Levin described it as a "disgraceful surrender," while senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat called it an "initial positive step."
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[20-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay completely ignorant into all of this but like


[20-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How does Israel even justify these settlements


[20-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Let us do it or you're Nazis?"


[20-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nile#1441
I don't think they really have to justify it, they'll do it anyway clearly.


[20-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that and telling the US to vote against UN resolutions against it or else it might stop voting with the US on trivial shit


[20-Nov-18 07:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
ENTIRELY COOPERATIVE TOWNS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenbelt,_Maryland

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Greenbelt is a city in Prince George's County, Maryland, United States, and a suburb of Washington, D.C..  Greenbelt is notable for being the first and the largest of the three experimental and controversial New Deal Greenbelt Towns, planned and built by the Federal governmen...
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[20-Nov-18 07:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
PRAISE


[20-Nov-18 11:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk

Thanks to you I found this awesome sculpture.

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[20-Nov-18 11:02 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Along with other ones

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[20-Nov-18 12:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[20-Nov-18 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2018/11/19/kaleo-opioid-overdose-antidote-naloxone-evzio-rob-portman-medicare-medicaid/2060033002/

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Drug company raised price of lifesaving opioid overdose antidote m...
As the nation struggled with rising opioid deaths, a drug company increased the price of an overdose antidote more than 600 percent, a Senate subcommittee says.
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[20-Nov-18 06:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If they need it to live then they will pay whatever we ask. Captive customers.


[20-Nov-18 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if they don't then they simply die  and if they had life insurance then our friends in the insurance companies can have the money instead"


[20-Nov-18 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJbE1bvdgo

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Cities: Skylines | Power, Politics, & Planning: Episode 5: Public ...
This is gonna be the video about public housing. Or part 1 of it, since it went so long. Angie Speaks on the Victorian Workhouse: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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[20-Nov-18 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
if public housing is so bad why are there 10,000 person long waiting lists? 🤔


[20-Nov-18 10:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6393843/Three-racist-thugs-hurled-anti-Islamic-abuse-brutally-beat-late-night-victim.html

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Three 'racist thugs hurled anti-Islamic abuse as they beat victim'
Alfred Young, 19, (pictured) from Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire, has pleaded guilty to religiously aggravated assault and will be sentenced at the conclusion of the trial.
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[20-Nov-18 10:02 PM] ononim#8141
"""anglos"""


[20-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/

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Statement from President Donald J. Trump on Standing with Saudi A...
America First! The world is a very dangerous place! The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen, trying to destabilize Iraq’s fragile attempt at democracy, supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon, propping...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/wh.gov-share-img_03-1024x538.png


[20-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/20/669596607/italy-wants-rescue-ship-seized-accuses-doctors-without-borders-of-illegal-dumpin

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Italy Wants Rescue Ship Seized, Accuses Doctors Without Borders Of...
Doctors Without Borders, which operates the Aquarius, "strongly condemns" the request and says allegations of improperly disposed medical and other waste are "unfounded and sinister."
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[20-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking fascist scum


[20-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They weren't able to stop doctors from saving dying brown people by getting Panama to revoke its registration, so now they're just making up shit.


[20-Nov-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the excuse that brown people are dirty, so anything they wear is diseased waste that must be treated as toxic.


[20-Nov-18 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
>that saudi article


[20-Nov-18 10:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Nov-18 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
>The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen


[20-Nov-18 10:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Nov-18 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is that's not just any article that's a direct pressrelease form the whitehosue's website...


[20-Nov-18 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these are trump's own fuckign words


[20-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The current president is an enemy of Democracy and truth.


[20-Nov-18 11:00 PM] Nile#1441
👍


[20-Nov-18 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Overthrow of House of Saud when


[20-Nov-18 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
just write off the middle east tbh


[20-Nov-18 11:31 PM] Nile#1441
Replace the Sauds with the Hashemites


[20-Nov-18 11:31 PM] Nile#1441
The rightful kings of Arabia


[20-Nov-18 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity" ~Ann Coulter


[20-Nov-18 11:33 PM] Nile#1441
Okay this is epic


[20-Nov-18 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Coulter said this like a decade and a half ago


[20-Nov-18 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Of course she was always a complete nutcase but that kind of took the cake on stupidity for a while


[20-Nov-18 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only if their Queen is in charge


[20-Nov-18 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was September 2001 when she said it


[20-Nov-18 11:36 PM] Nile#1441
Which queen


[20-Nov-18 11:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362933752919228417/514560039382548482/DsdCjmlW0AAHosY.jpeg

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[20-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rania of Jordan


[20-Nov-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.qrf.org/sites/default/files/images/u10/HMQ%20%281%29.png

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[20-Nov-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@ononim What about orange man mediocre


[20-Nov-18 11:40 PM] Nile#1441
The Jordanian king is a pretty cool dude


[20-Nov-18 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
orange man orange


[20-Nov-18 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The current King of Jordan, then a prince, appeared on Star Trek


[20-Nov-18 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🍊


[20-Nov-18 11:50 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Nov-18 11:50 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking


[20-Nov-18 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🍊 🚹 ❌


[20-Nov-18 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🍊 🚹 ✅


[20-Nov-18 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
orange man not cheesy at all, orange man taste bad


[20-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
False advertising


[21-Nov-18 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, did you take http://www.politicalsextant.com/


[21-Nov-18 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
for some reason I need to use vpn for it


[21-Nov-18 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
one sec


[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=-1&4=1&5=-1&6=1&7=-2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=0&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-2&18=2&19=2&20=1&21=2&22=-1&23=-1&24=2&25=2&26=-1&27=-2&28=-1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=1&34=1&35=2&36=2&37=-1&38=0&39=-2


[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
>comunalism


[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah baby


[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that was one of my worst lol


[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417732-trump-submits-written-answers-to-mueller

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Trump submits written answers to Mueller
President Trump has submitted his written answers to certain questions related to the Russia investigation to special counsel Robert Mueller, the president's legal team announced Tuesday.
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[21-Nov-18 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't fucking take down the state


[21-Nov-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim pure comrade


[21-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Nile#1441
Damn Marxist


[21-Nov-18 12:11 AM] Nile#1441
:trixdisgust:


[21-Nov-18 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
size the mines of destruction!


[21-Nov-18 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
also, I managed to get my mom to take the quiz, it wasn't pretty


[21-Nov-18 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=-2&3=-2&4=-2&5=-2&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=-1&16=-1&17=2&18=2&19=-2&20=-2&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=2&25=-2&26=-2&27=2&28=2&29=-1&30=2&31=-1&32=-1&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-2&37=2&38=-2&39=2


[21-Nov-18 12:21 AM] ononim#8141
wew


[21-Nov-18 12:22 AM] Nile#1441
Your mom's an ancap 😆


[21-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
I wanna know how you get 100% on both anarcho-capitalism and 100% on liberal democracy


[21-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
at the same time


[21-Nov-18 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
LIBERTY, BUT ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MONEY


[21-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nile#1441
Weird ideologies seem to congregate on this thing


[21-Nov-18 12:23 AM] Nile#1441
Hell I got both Juche and fascism on mine


[21-Nov-18 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got marxist femenism,classical marxism, and comunalism


[21-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Nile#1441
Oh and integralism as well


[21-Nov-18 12:25 AM] Nile#1441
Yours sound like they're not far off @prism stryder(intexda)


[21-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Nile#1441
woop


[21-Nov-18 12:27 AM] ononim#8141
wooped 😥


[21-Nov-18 12:27 AM] Nile#1441
But don't anarchists fight everybody


[21-Nov-18 12:28 AM] ononim#8141
Damn anarchists, they ruined anarchy


[21-Nov-18 12:29 AM] Nile#1441
Maybe it's my silly statist brain, but I don't like anarchist stuff


[21-Nov-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it really anarchy if no rules is a rule?


[21-Nov-18 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Anarchy is when nothing exists" proposes someone who hasn't read anarchist lit


[21-Nov-18 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://scontent.fdet1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45782383_2179031428784185_327337706944200704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fdet1-2.fna&oh=abec9ef64d7aeb0c68f2e656787c1ef6&oe=5CAADF3C


[21-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/417639-us-senators-demand-trump-administration-oppose-russian-officials-candidacy

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Senators push back on Russian official's candidacy for Interpol pr...
A group of U.S. senators is urging the Trump administration to oppose a Russian official's candidacy to lead Interpol.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/interpollogo_100518getty.jpg


[21-Nov-18 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get ready for Russia to force European countries to hunt down political dissidents Putin hates in lieu of poisoning them.


[21-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://time.com/5460036/this-is-our-lane-doctors-guns/

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Doctors Slam NRA's Directive to 'Stay in Their Lane' After Chicago...
'Every shooting is a preventable cause of death'
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/mercy-hospital.jpg?quality=85


[21-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is their lane, and they were shot in it.


[21-Nov-18 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA must be opposed.


[21-Nov-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[21-Nov-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the NRA is a ass hoe


[21-Nov-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Have a sane gun group: https://socialistra.org/


[21-Nov-18 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or: https://naaga.co/

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Front Page


[21-Nov-18 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
One more: http://www.pinkpistols.org/

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Pink Pistols
Pick on somebody your own caliber!
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[21-Nov-18 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Arm your local minorities today


[21-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=1&4=2&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=0&11=1&12=1&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=1&18=2&19=2&20=2&21=2&22=-1&23=-2&24=2&25=2&26=0&27=-2&28=-2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=-2&34=-1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=0&39=-2 my results


[21-Nov-18 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
100% A N A R C H O    G A N G (but voluntary)


[21-Nov-18 01:48 AM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[21-Nov-18 01:48 AM] ononim#8141
Holy shit that's a lot of Left Unity


[21-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I don't even know what half those groups are


[21-Nov-18 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll summarize for you: AnSyn - direct democratic control through the Union (IWW is an AnSyn organization), Classical Marxism - a classical reading of Marxist critique, remove Lenin from equation and make Engels I guess secondary or maybe Engel's writing is important, Collectivist anarchism - this is just a broad notion so ignore it, Anarcha-Feminism - Anarchist features with a feminist bent; dissolution of gender hierarchies, Green Syndicalism - See AnSyn but with more environmentalism, Insurrectionary Anarchism - Direkt Aktion gets the goods, destruction is also a creative force; Bakunin but probably not really from new info I hear despite him originating the destruction is creative line, Communalism - town-hall style New England direct  democracy with environmental characteristics, SynAn - See Collectivist, it's an umbrella, NeoZapatismo - Anarcho Communism with southern Mexican/Mayan characteristics; pro-indigenous rights, Marxist Feminism - Feminism with Marxist characteristics; obtain knowledge of Labor Theory.


[21-Nov-18 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stuff like Marxist Feminism is more of a historical perspective all-in-all than an explicit sub-set of political practice.


[21-Nov-18 01:59 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
I see


[21-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/11/nasa-plans-invasive-review-of-spacex-after-musk-smoked-weed/

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NASA concerned about culture of “inappropriateness” at SpaceX
Agency will continue to rely on Russian Soyuz vehicles while reviews take place.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/GettyImages-1048796254-760x380.jpg


[21-Nov-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still more of the bullshit establishment lashing out and throwing a hissy fit because society's changing


[21-Nov-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh no, a CEO was able to smoke THE DEVIL'S LEAF and get away with it, hurry, go on a fishing expedition to find something to throw out his company being the best at providing launch services over.


[21-Nov-18 03:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
BAN! PLANT!


[21-Nov-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Russians drill a hole in the spacecraft and smash a crane into the booster. NASA conclusion is it is safe for astronauts. Elon takes a puff (while off the job) and Dragon is a death trap.

<something about priorities goes here>'


[21-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately


[21-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expect that NASA will find about a dozen SpaceX employees that did drugs at some point off the job in states where that's illegal


[21-Nov-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the feds will throw the book at them


[21-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA will then rely on Russia for launchers for a little bit longer while putting in place a program at SpaceX that says you get fired even if you're the CEO and the drug you used while off the job was legal


[21-Nov-18 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mandatory drug testing etc.


[21-Nov-18 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/20/trump-reportedly-sought-to-order-prosecutions-of-hillary-clinton-and-james-comey.html

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Trump reportedly sought to order prosecutions of Hillary Clinton a...
White House counsel McGahn had White House lawyers draft a memo outlining the consequences of merely asking the DOJ to investigate his political rivals — including impeachment, the newspaper reported.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/10/21/104038859-GettyImages-589997748.1910x1000.jpg


[21-Nov-18 03:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Everything going as planned. The opposition get more tape to pass and russia can sell rockets for longer.


[21-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So at this point, I think it's inevitable that Mueller will say Trump committed obstruction of justice


[21-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that Republicans will not care.


[21-Nov-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, forget Russia, the president obstructs justice once a month.


[21-Nov-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
(or at least tries to)


[21-Nov-18 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-airbnb/israel-to-turn-to-us-government-over-airbnb-removal-of-settlement-listings-idUSKCN1NP19W

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Israel to turn to U.S. government over Airbnb removal of settlement...
Israel plans to consult with the U.S. government over a decision by home-renting...


[21-Nov-18 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/11/ohios_daniel_best_who_led_hhs.html
missing from article, The city’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner on Thursday said Best died from "multiple blunt force injuries" and it ruled his death a suicide. It would not release further information.

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https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/11/ohios_daniel_best_who_led_hhs.html
Ohio's Daniel Best, who led HHS prescription drug initiative, has died
Daniel Best, a pharmaceutical executive from Bay Village who was appointed in March to lead U.S. Department of Health and Human Services initiatives to lower prescription drug prices, has died, HHS Secretary Alex Azar announced Thursday.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bRDEjrupxRg/hqdefault.jpg


[21-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when that Canadian billionaire generic drug company guy who donated tons to charities and such was found obviously murdered along with his wife?


[21-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
did anything ever come from that after the PI's ruled it a homicide?


[21-Nov-18 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee what a shock big pharma is a large scale crime ring now


[21-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently not, @Crow


[21-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are still searching, at least.


[21-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yeah, big money = assassinations become possible


[21-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-to-release-broadband-speed-report-wednesday/

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FCC confirms it will release its latest broadband speed report
The FCC will once again tell you if you're getting what you paid for from your broadband provider.
https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/img/tK-Q8VyT3jc5PE-vqRIoVq2Jd04=/724x407/2014/10/06/13eb03c4-e6ea-4713-b284-ce34e02e95e5/4808818548747d4d1f3cb.jpg


[21-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They waited as long as fukking possible


[21-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally 2 months more and they'd be breaking the law


[21-Nov-18 05:58 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I remember someone here said that the whole reason Russia wants Ukraine is Sevastopol


[21-Nov-18 05:58 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Didn't Russia already have Novorossiysk for their Black Sea port though?


[21-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but Ukraine in NATO would've threatened that.


[21-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has several obstacles to completely securing its access to the seas


[21-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ukraine was the first and easiest


[21-Nov-18 06:03 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
ah, so some sort of Pearl Harbor-esque surprise attack to stop them from interfering


[21-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Ukraine had ousted the old president for being corrupt and in-league with Putin


[21-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia feared what would come next, Ukraine could've kikked it out of joint military control of Crimea and joined NATO


[21-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now Russia has full control of Crimea and eastern Ukraine controlled by pro-Russia forces.


[21-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in murrika https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/unwanted-subject-what-led-a-kirkland-yogurt-shop-to-call-police-on-a-black-man/

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‘Unwanted subject’: What led a Kirkland yogurt shop to call po...
He turned out to be supervising a parental visit, and is also a nine-year Air Force veteran. But the employees were scared of him and the police asked him to leave anyway.
https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/11162018_photo_182058-780x1097.jpg


[21-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy whose job it was to supervise parental visits for parents who lost custody gets told to leave by police because employees saw a blakk man sitting down and looking at his phone as "suspicious"


[21-Nov-18 06:17 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Now that is just straight up racism lol


[21-Nov-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/daniel-best-suicide-foul-play/

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FACT CHECK: Was HHS Drug Pricing Czar Daniel Best's Death Ruled a ...
Conspiracy theorists pointed to a medical examiner's report saying Best died of 'multiple blunt force injuries.'
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/11/daniel-best-meme.jpg?fit=1200,627


[21-Nov-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
>False


[21-Nov-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
oh nvm, that was @prism stryder(intexda)


[21-Nov-18 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
I really want to know how he managed to kill himself with "multiple blunt force traumas" though


[21-Nov-18 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
I guess maybe he could've thrown himself down some stairs or something, but he was found by the entrance of his apartment complex


[21-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
the only statement released was "multiple blunt force trauma"


[21-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
and then it was ruled a suicide


[21-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
no details released at all


[21-Nov-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
which is fishy as fuck


[21-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
All Snopes says is that it's not uncommon for there to be multiple injuries from jumping off a building etc.


[21-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe his apartment complex is really tall and he jumped.


[21-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46283364

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46283364
Saudi Arabia 'tortured women activists'
Human rights groups say the state electrocuted, flogged and sexually harassed detained activists.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/15B07/production/_101693888_12244ddd-7dd1-4c2c-896d-4b29b4049fc6.jpg


[21-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/20/669826023/dhs-chief-visits-u-s-mexico-border-defends-administrations-asylum-rules

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DHS Chief Visits U.S.-Mexico Border, Defends Administration's Asyl...
A day after a federal court blocks the Trump administration from changing asylum rules, DHS chief Kirstjen Nielsen promises a legal fight.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/20/ap_18324851095943_wide-0fe93b4fff881f086a7ec8415dae22768afaf7b4.jpg?s=1400


[21-Nov-18 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, administration made a ruling that violates the law, judge has temporarily blokked it, DHS chief went down to go lie, yelling about how GANG RAPISTS are coming to the border and assert that Trump can literally ignore the text of the law


[21-Nov-18 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, look at this chode I found on fanfiction.net https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2367301/Lord-BladeDSF


[21-Nov-18 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
Political Philosophy: Extreme Conservative. Heavy Libertarian/Anarchist views and tendencies. I believe the Government should only pass laws and interfere in the lives of public citizens to protect our moral values and virtues, as well as protecting the safety of our nation. I consider abortion as legalized murder. There is no such thing as 'gay marriage' as it is an abomination, unnatural, and completely contradictory to the very definition of marriage. Based on the Declaration of Independence as well as the U.S. constitution, 'gay marriage' is entirely against American values and our constitution as our nation has considered itself as a Christian country since it's founding. I am entirely the Catholic church's new stance on this subject as it entirely against their own beliefs and faith. Government and religious leaders need a reality check and start supporting what is right instead of what makes people happy. Leaders lead by example, and people often want everything that is the worst for them.


[21-Nov-18 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I believe the Government should only pass laws and interfere in the lives of public citizens to protect our moral values and virtues"


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
translation: "I believe the gov't should put the gays in camps, but let me shoot them"


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's the complete opposite of anarchy


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not an anarchist


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a white nationalist


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Heavy Libertarian/Anarchist views and tendencies.


[21-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
opposite of libertarian too


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The US is considered Christian upon founding? Those forefathers of yours would *roll in their graves* at that.


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They like to pretend to just want the gov't to fukk off (so that they can go around lynching gay and blakk people)


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
>Slash: I refuse to to read or write anything of the sort. Girl/Girl is one thing, but NEVER will I include slash in any of my stories unless it is in a way to bash characters I don't like, and the viewpoints towards such will be as derogatory as possible to hold true to the way it should be.


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
he hates gays


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
but doesn't care about lesbians


[21-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
probably jerks off to lesbian porn


[21-Nov-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who let their peepee direct them politically are abhorrent


[21-Nov-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it makes his peepee hard, so it's okay, but that other thing makes his peepee soft, round them up.


[21-Nov-18 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/hDy3y8I.png


[21-Nov-18 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
why isn't it previewing >:V


[21-Nov-18 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/hDy3y8I.png

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https://i.imgur.com/hDy3y8I.png


[21-Nov-18 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
why did that preview


[21-Nov-18 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
it was exactly the same thing


[21-Nov-18 11:06 AM] ononim#8141
Isn't snopes has connection with DNC?


[21-Nov-18 11:06 AM] ononim#8141
Wich makes its political fact checking at very least questionable


[21-Nov-18 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
all it said was that it isn't impossible for someone with "multiple blunt force trauma" to have committed suicide


[21-Nov-18 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
the term is used for when people die from jumping off a building as well


[21-Nov-18 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's just incredibly suspect that he was found near the entrance of his apartment, and the only detail released about the autopsy report is that he died from "multiple blunt force trauma"


[21-Nov-18 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
and then suddenly it's ruled a suicide with no other details released


[21-Nov-18 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that we don't know what type of blunt force  trauma it is


[21-Nov-18 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then that's vague as fuck


[21-Nov-18 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, usually they release whether it was caused by falling


[21-Nov-18 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
or what the most likely cause of the trauma was


[21-Nov-18 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real question is whether or not there's a cover up going on. or are they keeping details liek this from the public so thye can investigate


[21-Nov-18 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-mexico-border-troops-thanksgiving_us_5bf48669e4b0771fb6b3a421

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Trump Says Troops At Border Are ‘Tough’ Enough To Miss Thanksg...
President Trump has deployed thousands of troops to the U.S.-Mexico border to respond to caravans of migrants seeking asylum.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5bf4910f1d00002502313449.jpeg?cache=l6smsuqm1y&ops=1910_1000


[21-Nov-18 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/bored-on-the-border-troop-border-support-mission-is-killing-morale-2018-11

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Bored on the border: The US military's 'border support' mission is...
With an unclear mission and lacking facilities sinking morale, the biggest threat to US troops on the border may be boredom.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5beb4f253815076d676e2456-960-480.jpg


[21-Nov-18 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I sent troops to the border to politically posture for me since i do not want to go myself! Do not worry about them and their missing of the human thanksgiving for they are slave peasants and as such do not celebrate such a human holiday"


[21-Nov-18 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now, watch as they do my bidding while holding no issue with me as i tell them to fire bullets upon people with rocks. Surely they will willingly do that and their morale will be quite high about it!"


[21-Nov-18 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Everyone should now gaze upon me and see that I am the human Donald J. Drumpf and totally not a pile of your Earth money in an ill fitted human suit"


[21-Nov-18 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the US navy purposefully publicly announced that they were scaling back railgun R&D in order to try and throw attention off of it


[21-Nov-18 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
because news broke about 6 months later that china's railgun testing was scaling up


[21-Nov-18 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
and that they already have a test railgun mounted on a ship, which is more than what has been publicly released by the US navy


[21-Nov-18 01:15 PM] Crow#5457
the US army has said that they are still continuing with railgun R&D, mainly because it's apparently very good for point defense against incoming missiles


[21-Nov-18 02:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow >lthe US is a Christian country"
Er, no. The founding fathers may have been more Deist than anything. Not to mention that most of them expressed views in favor of religious tolerance.


[21-Nov-18 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
?


[21-Nov-18 02:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Far-right nutjobs only claim to know their country's culture and history. In fact, they're complete idiots in regards to these, as they only see it through a diminute lens.


[21-Nov-18 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
I never said anything about the US being a christian country


[21-Nov-18 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
or are you talking about that guy on fanfiction.net?


[21-Nov-18 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
About the guy you were talking about, actually


[21-Nov-18 02:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, anyone who praises the founding fathers as "paladins of Christian values" should take a look at Aaron Burr


[21-Nov-18 02:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They'd probably call him an SJW, lol


[21-Nov-18 04:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Christians do make up the majority of people in the US though


[21-Nov-18 04:36 PM] Mikey#7286
And it's the largest Christian population, as well


[21-Nov-18 04:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Though I think non-religiousness/atheism has risen lately


[21-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I can't imagine Zoomers becoming politicians


[21-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Litrojia#0612
I for one can't wait until all our politicians have zoomer names like Brayden and Winter


[21-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Nile#1441
@Orion Starshade I can, and it doesn't sound great


[21-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Mikey#7286
Zoomers?


[21-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
Generation Z, the generation after millennials


[21-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
called "zoomers" on the internet ever since "boomers" became a meme


[21-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[21-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Eh


[21-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
I think zoomers are promising


[21-Nov-18 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think zoomers have potential


[21-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Moreso than millennials and especially boomers


[21-Nov-18 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are growing up int he destroyed economy so most of thme will have more perspective on it as thye grow up


[21-Nov-18 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are people who are 18 right now considered zoomers?


[21-Nov-18 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause if so the younger people at my college work hard for what thye want


[21-Nov-18 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1065051422541131781

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Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace)
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1065051422541131781
Two sources indicated a political impetus behind the “review,” and yes their intent is not really to help anyone. This appears to be something NASA is being forced to do, rather than something it sees as particularly valuable.
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[21-Nov-18 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Best reaction image shortly following: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsfefJlU4AAkxUX.jpg:large

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[21-Nov-18 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
review?


[21-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
NASA announced a tentative launch date for the SpaceX uncrewed test today anyways
doesn't seem like they're letting themselves get too caught up in it yet


[21-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/11/21/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates-5/


[21-Nov-18 09:39 PM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) yes


[21-Nov-18 09:39 PM] Mikey#7286
The oldest zoomer is around 23


[21-Nov-18 09:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Millennials youngest age now is 24 though


[21-Nov-18 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yeah they totally have potential to carry this country


[21-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Mikey#7286
So millennials are more or less grown up


[21-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Mikey#7286
And zoomers can look at how millennials were raised and avoid the same problems


[21-Nov-18 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[21-Nov-18 09:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
huh


[21-Nov-18 09:43 PM] Nile#1441
So does that make me a zoomer or a millennial


[21-Nov-18 09:43 PM] Nile#1441
I'm 23


[21-Nov-18 09:43 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
the birth dates for zoomers and millennials actually overlap


[21-Nov-18 09:43 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
🤔


[21-Nov-18 09:44 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
due to the end years for millennials being around mid 1990s and early 2000s


[21-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Mikey#7286
A zoomer I guess


[21-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Idk


[21-Nov-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/21/669373081/climate-change-slows-oil-company-plan-to-drill-in-the-arctic

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Climate Change Slows Oil Company Plan To Drill In The Arctic
Development of the first oil production facility in federal Arctic waters will take longer than planned. That's because warming temperatures are melting the sea ice needed to build it.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/19/ap_17198342348862_wide-58e7beed53e34cc42d9e6dd9efa36452611f2f91.jpg?s=1400


[21-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
you can be a zoomer and millennial


[21-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
oh wow


[21-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nile#1441
I'd rather not associate with millennial since that implies I'm with a lot of the looneys today.


[21-Nov-18 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dunno, i;m having fun being a millenial assassin of corporate markets by beign too poor to afford them


[21-Nov-18 09:53 PM] ononim#8141
@Mikey lies


[21-Nov-18 09:53 PM] ononim#8141
No shit that's is thrown at zoomers aplies to me


[21-Nov-18 09:53 PM] ononim#8141
And shit ton of millennial stereotypes does


[21-Nov-18 09:53 PM] ononim#8141
Generations are fake anyway, and made to divide the class :^p


[21-Nov-18 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard much about zoomers outside of fortnite dances and tide pod challenges


[21-Nov-18 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the tide pod challenges got blamed on millenials for soem reason


[21-Nov-18 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was weird


[21-Nov-18 09:57 PM] Mikey#7286
@Nile would you rather be associated with baby boomers?


[21-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nile#1441
Nope


[21-Nov-18 09:58 PM] Nile#1441
Boomers have their own series of problems


[21-Nov-18 09:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Also what @ononim said


[21-Nov-18 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[21-Nov-18 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile no oen talks about gen x


[21-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nile#1441
I don't know much about Gen X


[21-Nov-18 10:06 PM] Nile#1441
They're just there


[21-Nov-18 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[21-Nov-18 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's the enigma generaiton between boomers and millenials


[21-Nov-18 10:07 PM] DevField#5162
Are they the lost generation? 🤔


[21-Nov-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hard to say


[21-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/103951143/generation-x-is-the-forgotten-generation-about-to-rule-the-roost

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Generation X is the forgotten generation about to rule the roost
In some ways it's like Gen X is the Prince Charles of the workforce, waiting for the Queen to retire or pass on.
https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/g/g/8/q/z/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800.1pw17r.png/1526435672065.jpg


[21-Nov-18 10:09 PM] Nile#1441
That description is amusing to read, considering...


[21-Nov-18 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well considering the queen is immortal


[21-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[21-Nov-18 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor charles


[21-Nov-18 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Long, looooooooong live the queen".


[21-Nov-18 10:31 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Gen X is nice


[22-Nov-18 01:49 AM] Cookie#0293
*Build a wall around the sun*


[22-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we must build a new sun where the mexicans can't get it!


[22-Nov-18 02:11 AM] Litrojia#0612
just push Mexico behind the flat earth


[22-Nov-18 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alas the ice wall prevents that


[22-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46261983

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Huge malnutrition toll on Yemen children
Many thousands of under-fives have died from deprived diets due to the war, a leading charity warns.
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[22-Nov-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb4642496p/_2.jpg

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[22-Nov-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in the south https://www.npr.org/2018/11/21/669878629/u-s-judge-strikes-down-mississippi-abortion-ban

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U.S. Judge Strikes Down Mississippi Law That Bans Abortions After ...
The judge blocked the state from enforcing its ban, writing that Mississippi passed a law that it knew was unconstitutional.
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[22-Nov-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Law that blatantly walked on Roe v Wade strukk down, likely to go to SCOTUS soon for Kavanaugh to say it should be reinstated.


[22-Nov-18 04:54 AM] Nile#1441
Based


[22-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
maybe it's good that we don't have immortality, or we'd be stuck with generations in power long enough for them to actually permanently destroy everything


[22-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
imagine the first person to serve 500 years on the US supreme court


[22-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
and it only ended because someone shot him


[22-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
though tbh at the rate that trump is getting more insane, there won't be a US by the end of the century


[22-Nov-18 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
M A K E    A S S A S  I N A T I O N    L E G A L


[22-Nov-18 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
#SkeletonAssasinationSquad


[22-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part about trump is that the next republican president will have to be even more insane to get elected


[22-Nov-18 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there's a way to make a constitutional monarchy work while the monarch still maintains some power to make legal decisions


[22-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
because it always seems like that throughout history, eventually you'd get an asshole king who doesn't give a shit about actually making decisions or actively runs the country into the ground for his own benefit


[22-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
or even just plain incompetent


[22-Nov-18 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is a way to depose of bad kings, or any king. It's called the guillotine and restructuring of the government model to limit the power of hierarchical institutions that grants increasing power to a detached class of people.


[22-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Nile#1441
@Crow Liechtenstein


[22-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nile#1441
While it's not quite what you want, the prince does actually have some reasonable power compared to other European monarchs except the Pope.


[22-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
lol, liechtenstein's national anthem has the same melody as god save the queen


[22-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nile#1441
A lot of nations used to have God Save the Queen or songs similar to it as their anthem back in the day.


[22-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/21/white-house-approves-military-use-lethal-force-border-migrant-caravan/2082306002/

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White House approves military to use lethal force at southern border
The White House will allow military troops to use lethal force at the southwest border.
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[22-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
YEAH


[22-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
SHOOT THEM BROWN PEOPLE UP


[22-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
MURICA


[22-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
/s


[22-Nov-18 08:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Tfw you see someone from your country equate Nazi=Communist lmao😁


[22-Nov-18 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
As noted by the article, this is blatantly illegal.


[22-Nov-18 08:44 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Hey, Trump hates foreigners, like I said


[22-Nov-18 08:45 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Whether or not his hate is genuine or just a cover up for his business, however, I do not know


[22-Nov-18 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's genuine


[22-Nov-18 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
His father ran the business in a very discriminatory fashion


[22-Nov-18 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the classic thing where blakk guy asks for vacancies, is told there are none, white guy asks, suddenly there are.


[22-Nov-18 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that Trump is ooooold


[22-Nov-18 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
when he was a kid, hating blakk people was pretty much the norm.


[22-Nov-18 09:08 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Ah yeah, hes over 70 years old


[22-Nov-18 09:08 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
There are older people than him at office though, like the PM of Malaysia whos over 90 and has to return the country to a good state at an age where he should be enjoying life.


[22-Nov-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that old people sukk at governing


[22-Nov-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that old people tend to hav views from the culture of their youth


[22-Nov-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning they are extremely conservative by default, opposing change


[22-Nov-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in America, that means hating blakks


[22-Nov-18 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wtol.com/2018/11/21/new-ohio-house-bill-seeks-completely-ban-abortions-make-them-punishable-by-death/

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New Ohio House bill seeks to completely ban abortions, make them p...
State lawmakers in Ohio are considering a bill that would completely ban abortions, and make the act punishable by death. However, the measure appears to lack support.
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[22-Nov-18 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/21/higgins-pelosi-opponent-flips-1010789

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Opposition to Pelosi slowly collapsing
Rep. Brian Higgins' support deals a setback to the group looking to oust the California Democrat.
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[22-Nov-18 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
damn cowards refuse to risk themselves by putting themselves up as a candidate


[22-Nov-18 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[22-Nov-18 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also bribed off one of her potential opponents with promises of a high level position if she wins


[22-Nov-18 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/21/facebook-george-soros-zuckerberg-1012545

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Facebook executive admits hiring firm that linked critics to Soros
The move appears aimed at taking pressure off Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg.
https://static.politico.com/26/66/afa4ff9a4c16a44fbdb17f61bd90/181121-facebook-gty-773.jpg


[22-Nov-18 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
Facebook's outgoing policy chief took the blame Wednesday night for hiring a consulting firm to investigate and peddle negative stories about the company's critics, including by linking them to liberal philanthropist George Soros.


[22-Nov-18 02:44 PM] Crow#5457
The New York Times reported last week that Facebook, under pressure over reports of Russian election interference on its platform, hired the Republican-linked consulting firm, Definers Public Affairs, which among other things sought to tie anti-Facebook groups to the Soros-backed Open Society Foundations.


[22-Nov-18 02:44 PM] Crow#5457
fucking lol


[22-Nov-18 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Nov-18 03:10 PM] Litrojia#0612
Ugh


[22-Nov-18 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we force him into a militarized zone?


[22-Nov-18 03:13 PM] Crow#5457
he claims he "might" visit troops abroad in afghanistan or iraq


[22-Nov-18 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
When they come back in a box.


[22-Nov-18 03:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-discusses-possible-trump-visit-to-troops-in-iraq-or-afghanistan/2018/11/19/9f6724d8-ec2a-11e8-96d4-0d23f2aaad09_story.html


[22-Nov-18 03:15 PM] Crow#5457
Trump has so far declined to visit those combat regions, saying he does not want to associate himself with wars he views as failures, according to current and former advisers, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations. Current advisers said Trump is not expected to visit a war zone during the Thanksgiving break, which he will spend at his Mar-a-Lago golf resort in Florida.


[22-Nov-18 03:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hey they fighting for your gasoline,give em respect


[22-Nov-18 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real reason is he's worried soemone is goign tot ry to murder his ass if he goes


[22-Nov-18 03:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-troops-teleconference-war-zone-visit-planned/story?id=59353527

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Trump to thank troops by teleconference, says war zone visit 'bein...
The president has yet to visit troops in a war zone during his first two years but says it's "being planned."
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[22-Nov-18 03:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I hope people are not naive enough to think someone like him would visit US deployment zones


[22-Nov-18 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wont


[22-Nov-18 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's too paranoid someone will try to kill him


[22-Nov-18 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/21/junaid-hussain-most-dangerous-terrorist-cyber-hacking-222643

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Inside the Hunt for the World’s Most Dangerous Terrorist
How a British hacker joined ISIS’s top ranks and launched a deadly global cyber plot.
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[22-Nov-18 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
Hussain dismissed other “hacktivist” groups such as Anonymous, saying they symbolized the online equivalent of “peaceful protesting, camping on the street,” whereas his TeaMp0isoN executed “internet guerrilla warfare.” In April 2012, TriCk told a British newspaper, “I fear no man or authority. My whole life is dedicated to the cause.”


[22-Nov-18 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
In fact, one study of 1,300 ISIS videos, conducted by George Washington University’s Javier Lesaca, found that one out of five of them appeared to be directly inspired by American entertainment like Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto or American Sniper.


[22-Nov-18 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
jeez


[22-Nov-18 03:43 PM] Crow#5457
Just weeks before we arrested Ferizi, on the night of August 24, 2015, Hussain was alone as he left an internet cafe. As U.S. Central Command confirmed publicly the following day, U.S. military forces operating far overhead fired a single Hellfire missile at his vehicle while it was at a gas station in Raqqa, Syria.


[22-Nov-18 03:43 PM] Crow#5457
The blast killed him instantly.


[22-Nov-18 03:44 PM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently hellfire missiles were originally called "Heliborne, Laser, Fire and Forget Missile"


[22-Nov-18 03:44 PM] Crow#5457
HelLFire


[22-Nov-18 03:51 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they are, helicopter-launched fire-and-forget missiles


[22-Nov-18 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
they can be launched from jets as well


[22-Nov-18 03:52 PM] Crow#5457
and drones


[22-Nov-18 03:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

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AGM-114 Hellfire
The AGM-114 Hellfire is an air-to-surface missile (ASM) first developed for anti-armor use, but later models were developed for precision strikes against other target types, and have been used in a number of targeted killings of high-profile individuals. It was originally dev...
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[22-Nov-18 03:52 PM] Crow#5457
and from boats too apparently


[22-Nov-18 03:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like the study has a bais against games. As we all know Call of Duty and Gran Theft Auto are all about torture, anti America and praising God. Also the scenes in American sniper were inspired by Islamic terrorist videos before Isis. It also seems like they have confused who is inspiring who here. *The study belongs in the trash*


[22-Nov-18 03:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
nah, should've kept one of the Iowas in commision and let it rain down 16-inch shells on the terrorists lol


[22-Nov-18 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/business/who-is-carlos-ghosn.html

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By AMIE TSANG
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/business/who-is-carlos-ghosn.html
Who Is Carlos Ghosn and Why Is He in Trouble?
A titan of the auto industry, Mr. Ghosn was known for cost-cutting and performance-based compensation. His management of his own pay package may be his downfall.
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[22-Nov-18 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump on live national tv just said "God has  not done mroe than i have"


[22-Nov-18 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it finally happened, trump said he was better than god


[22-Nov-18 04:46 PM] ononim#8141
Le God-Emperor


[22-Nov-18 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), link?


[22-Nov-18 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have one yet but i can try and find one


[22-Nov-18 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw it live on tv


[22-Nov-18 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i may have misheard him too but i'll try and find it


[22-Nov-18 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hPxFpJvKIM

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Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hPxFpJvKIM
Trump speaks with members of the military by phone
President Trump is speaking with members of the military by phone on Thanksgiving. Subscribe to The Washington Post on YouTube: http://bit.ly/2qiJ4dy Follow ...
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[22-Nov-18 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have a tiem stamp to give you but that's the stream in full


[22-Nov-18 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i may have misheard him


[22-Nov-18 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but basically he turned wishing the military members a happy thanksgiving by phone into a live press conference deal


[22-Nov-18 06:51 PM] ononim#8141
http://asbarez.com/176275/kurdish-member-of-turkish-parliament-delivers-a-harsh-speech-ends-up-in-jail/

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Kurdish Member of Turkish Parliament Delivers a Harsh Speech & End...
Ferhat Encu, a Kurdish member of the Turkish Parliament from the Sirnak province of Turkey, delivered a while back extremely critical remarks about Turks and Turkey on the floor of the Parliament in Ankara.
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[22-Nov-18 06:52 PM] Nile#1441
Kurds smh


[22-Nov-18 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
```Here are Encu’s six-minute-long powerful remarks in the Turkish Parliament which was constantly interrupted by threats: “I will make my statement short and to the point. Some of you call us killers. But, who kills civilians and who is a killer? You are!”

Threats shouted at Encu from the Parliament floor: “Shut him up! Take that terrorist and shoot him!”

Parliament Speaker: “Let him speak. Say what you have to say and finish it.”

Encu continued his remarks: “Together here, you are tough! But, the truth is you are just a mouth and nothing more. I, as a Kurd – history is my witness – that I, as a Kurd, live in my land, Kurdistan, at a time when you were gathering grassroots and feeding, playing around with your horses in Mongolia…”

Shouts from the floor: “Shoot him!”

Encu: “This so called your land is not your land, nor that of the AKP [Pres. Erdogan’s ruling party]. This land is older than all of you. It belongs to the real people…”

Parliament Speaker: “You will be punished for this. You can talk this over Kebab during lunch time. You support terrorists in front of us.”

Encu: “The honorable Greeks and Armenians were here…”

Shouts from the floor: “Shoot that terrorist.”

Encu: “We Kurds are still here. No tanks and none of your military can remove us…” ```


[22-Nov-18 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
```Shouts from the floor: “We destroyed your city.”

Encu: “You can destroy it, but we will build a dozen more. You Turks are nothing. We have defeated worse monsters than you in Silopi. Drop your bombs. Kill our children. Kill civilians, but you cannot kill us being a Kurd in Roboski, all over Kurdistan or what you call ‘Turkey.’ Humanity has seen worse than you. We defeated them…”

Parliament Speaker: “You will go to jail for this. Five years will be your minimum sentence.”

Encu: “I don’t give a damn. Truth is more important than life…”

Shouts from the floor: “He needs a bullet. Arrest him!”

Parliament Speaker: “We have sent for security. He will be arrested.”

Encu: “We Kurds will always be Kurds, before you Turks came here and after you Turks leave here. Your ‘Turkey’ is the stolen land of Greeks, Armenians and us Kurds. History is my witness.”

Shouts from the floor: “Your head will roll.”

Encu: “What can you do? Here I am against hundreds of you. What you got in you?

Parliament Speaker: “You will be punished for this.”

Encu: “Kill me. I will still tell the truth.”```


[22-Nov-18 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
```Parliament Speaker: “Say that when the security gets here. By this law book, I will send you to 10 years in prison. Ten years is the minimum.”

Shouts from the floor: “He needs to be shot right here.”

Encu: “I will finish.”

Shouts from the floor: “You will pay with your life for this; you scum Kurd!”

Encu: “Bark all of you as you wish. I stand strong here, come and face…”

Shouts from the floor: “That is enough. Where is the security?”

Encu: “You all act tough in a group, but alone, you are cowards. Our Kurdish youth showed that to your military. No Turkish soldier or police can patrol a Kurdish street. Your soldiers ran from our youth. Like now, you just have mouths and act tough together. But, face to face you are nothing…”

Shouts from the floor: “Shut that Kurd up!”

Encu: “Alone, I, as a Kurd, can take on all of you…”

Shouts from the floor: “Firing squad!”

Encu: “You think by killing us you can defeat us; it only makes us stronger. You call me a ‘terrorist,’ I, who fight for my freedom from your occupation. I, who lived in this land for thousands of years, you come and occupy it. I fight for the freedom of my people, for freedom like all other nations…”

Shouts from the floor: “You will be shot!”

Encu: “I face death and bullets bravely for my freedom like millions of other Kurds. No occupation lasts forever. Freedom always triumphs at the end…”

Shouts from the floor: “You signed your own death warrant by a Turkish bullet. You are a dead man walking. Don’t let him leave alive from here.”

Parliament Speaker: “Go back to your seats. He is alone. There is nothing to worry about. He is alone. We are many. We will get him. Take your seats.”```


[22-Nov-18 06:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Biji biji!


[22-Nov-18 07:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Not sure who to root for here, the Kurd or those Turkish people


[22-Nov-18 07:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but whatever


[22-Nov-18 07:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I don't really know the situation anyway


[22-Nov-18 07:10 PM] Nile#1441
I don't like the Turks, but I don't like the Kurds either.


[22-Nov-18 07:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Erdogan feels like one shitty leader though


[22-Nov-18 07:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the personification of the "fascist but inefficient" trope


[22-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kurds deserve a homeland


[22-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Turkey should answer for the Armenian Genocide


[22-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh Greece should have gotten that part of Turkey they were promised


[22-Nov-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never root for the Turks


[22-Nov-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never ever.


[22-Nov-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey is built upon claiming someone else's land and shooting anyone that opposes it.


[22-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like the whole country is founded on the Turkish identity and anything outside it has to be MURDERED


[22-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy before Erdogan tried to go towards being a democracy


[22-Nov-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
then Erdogan did a 180 and undid like all the progress


[22-Nov-18 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's some nice progress ya' got there, it woudl be a shame is soemone were to STAB IT WITH FIRE!


[22-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
I’m not pro-Turk, I’m pro-GREEK 🇬🇷 🇬🇷


[22-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
:NUT:


[22-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
Anatolia and Thrace are Greek lands


[23-Nov-18 12:24 AM] Yuri#4154

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[23-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Orange Man orange


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[23-Nov-18 01:02 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/native-american-mashpee-tribe-turns-congress-land-dispute-181114184734541.html

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Native American Mashpee tribe turns to Congress in land dispute
Trump administration reversed Obama-era decision to recognise the Mashpee Wampanoag reservation in Massachusetts.
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[23-Nov-18 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck


[23-Nov-18 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2628/text?format=txt

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[23-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good riddance https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-gru-military-intelligence-chief-igor-korobov-dies-moscow-today-2018-11-22/

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Head of Russia's GRU military intelligence agency, Igor Korobov, d...
U.S. had blacklisted Igor Korobov, whose agency is accused of hacking U.S. elections, orchestrating a U.K. nerve agent attack and Olympic doping
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[23-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy behind the Novichok in the UK died of cancer.


[23-Nov-18 01:31 AM] ononim#8141
eh


[23-Nov-18 01:31 AM] ononim#8141
there's other people in these structures I would rather see die first


[23-Nov-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but the important thing is Putin's generation isn't getting any younger.


[23-Nov-18 01:32 AM] ononim#8141
I would be more optimistic if generation after Vova wasn't as reactonary


[23-Nov-18 01:32 AM] ononim#8141
and probably the one after them too


[23-Nov-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
When does Russia become so reactionary is throws up totems to Perun and became some backwards ass 7th century tribal kingdom but with tanks?


[23-Nov-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Russia, the first state in the world to go reactionary an prim.


[23-Nov-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Moscow the Nature Reserve.


[23-Nov-18 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
Naw, they won't throw away the power the church holds that easily


[23-Nov-18 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
And hey they now have their own little church with no acountability whatsoever!


[23-Nov-18 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
Which sapns only Russian and Belarus but who cares if it's full


[23-Nov-18 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
Hm


[23-Nov-18 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
Also probably Japan


[23-Nov-18 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
iirc Japanese Orthodox Church is under Russian


[23-Nov-18 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
There was even a meme flash mob than last Patriarch died


[23-Nov-18 01:39 AM] ononim#8141
Instead of obvious Alexey people on boards shilled metropolite of Japan Daniil iirc


[23-Nov-18 01:39 AM] ononim#8141
and it could technically be possible


[23-Nov-18 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[23-Nov-18 01:40 AM] ononim#8141
http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/81250.html

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Даниил, митрополит Токийский и всей ...
Даниил, митрополит Токийский и всей Японии (Нуширо Икио) / Персоналии / Патриархия.ru
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[23-Nov-18 01:40 AM] ononim#8141
This guy


[23-Nov-18 01:40 AM] ononim#8141
Imagine if he lef the largest orthodox church in the world today


[23-Nov-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't read khazar


[23-Nov-18 01:41 AM] ononim#8141
tbh I would even bet it would be improvement strictly because Orthodox church has almost no power in Jappan which would contrast beautifully with our current former tobaco smugler who has super expensive watches and appartaments


[23-Nov-18 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Car wash in the church now, please don't tax


[23-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nile#1441
Mass conversion of the Japanese when


[23-Nov-18 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
When I finally decide to make a proper Russia game in EU4


[23-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Nile#1441
Based


[23-Nov-18 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Nov-18 01:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Charlie Kirk is into vore confirmed


[23-Nov-18 01:51 AM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie


[23-Nov-18 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is kind of helping me learn how to meme


[23-Nov-18 01:54 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[23-Nov-18 02:05 AM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/tJE3KDxTbWI

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Addams Family Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving
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[23-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://scontent.fmnl3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/46507514_551985035274385_5029389218804137984_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl3-2.fna&oh=ffc03fcc82458211cc5a2352dc07f0fc&oe=5C649D5F

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[23-Nov-18 02:09 AM] Yuri#4154

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[23-Nov-18 12:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-huawei/u-s-asks-allies-to-shun-huawei-equipment-wsj-reports-sector-stocks-fall-idUSKCN1NR2E6

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U.S. asks allies to shun Huawei equipment, WSJ reports; sector...
The U.S. government is trying to persuade wireless and internet providers in all...


[23-Nov-18 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsp54fSWoAAP4NS.jpg

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[23-Nov-18 03:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
As if Trump had never been called any of that.


[23-Nov-18 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, he is literally all of those things


[23-Nov-18 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but you're also forgetting paranoid and narcisstic


[23-Nov-18 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.wistv.com/2018/11/23/trump-says-time-action-the-wall-visits-golf-course/

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Trump says time for action on 'the Wall,' visits golf course
President Donald Trump has returned to his West Palm Beach golf course on another sunny Florida day; he says Democrats and Republicans 'MUST come together, finally, with a major Border Security package'
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[23-Nov-18 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.waff.com/2018/11/23/impeach-president-house-democrats-saying-not-so-fast/

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Impeach the president? House Democrats saying not so fast
House Democrats are laying out a vision for their new majority, and one item is noticeably missing from the to-do list: President Donald Trump's impeachment
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[23-Nov-18 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/417990-trump-chides-courts-trade-moves-in-27-minute-call-with-troops

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Trump chides courts, trade moves in Thanksgiving call with troops
President Trump held a wide-ranging and unconventional Thanksgiving Day teleconference Thursday with leaders of the five branches of the military, airing political grievances and praising the country’s might.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldtroopcall_112218getty.jpg


[23-Nov-18 04:22 PM] Deleted User#0000
🅱oli🇩ics XDDD


[23-Nov-18 05:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46308160 very fine people

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UKIP leader defends hiring Tommy Robinson
Gerard Batten's decision was criticised by Nigel Farage, who says the party should ditch him as leader.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/10B35/production/_104450486_tommyrobinson_epa.jpg


[23-Nov-18 05:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/AIPD8qHhtVU

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Muslamic Ray Guns - The EDL Anthem
Free Download! http://yourlisten.com/AlexRoss/muslamic-ray-guns-the-edl-anthem Join me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/alex__ross An EDL protester is so c...
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[23-Nov-18 05:39 PM] Nile#1441
You know he hasn't been part of the EDL for a few years now, right


[23-Nov-18 05:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Well he did make them.


[23-Nov-18 05:51 PM] Nile#1441
Yes, but he's not associated with the group anymore.


[23-Nov-18 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Nov-18 07:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[23-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jamal-khashoggi-killing-turkey-rips-president-trump-saudi-arabia-today-2018-11-23/

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Turkey rips Trump for turning a "blind eye" to Jamal Khashoggi killing
"Money isn't everything. We must not move away from human values," Turkey's foreign minister says
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[23-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
Two fascist scum shiting on each other


[23-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
WOnder when Vova butts in


[23-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[23-Nov-18 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Knew Dems would ease back from impeachment


[23-Nov-18 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatly so


[23-Nov-18 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with modern politicians is they're all ready to get soem shit done until they realize prolonging said shit makes thme look better in their next election


[23-Nov-18 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8CsdxpqII

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Civility
Why do liberals rush to the center? Why do they get mad if we don't? There's a reason liberals are so desperate for civility, and it has nothing to do with p...
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[23-Nov-18 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, except afew republicans who prefer to ram their bills through america's anus unlubed


[23-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Pelosi really thinks if she tried to impeach Bush Obama would have lost?!?


[23-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jfc


[23-Nov-18 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but we need this guy because he makes us look better by comparison"


[23-Nov-18 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"if we impeach him now i have no platform to run for president in 2020, turmp is my only platform guys!"


[23-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They realize if they get what they want the most uncharismatic and unlikeable VP will run then


[23-Nov-18 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk I refuse engagement with people of certain stances


[23-Nov-18 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the whole "Don't debate creationists" thing


[23-Nov-18 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right pence


[23-Nov-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
man, pence just bides his time in the background huh?


[23-Nov-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I almost forget he;s there half the time and that's likely a deliberate strategy on his part


[23-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[23-Nov-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-leaders-prefer-pence-because-015718163.html

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World Leaders Prefer Pence Because ‘Unpredictable’ Trump Sees ...
Stoic, calm, composed, and always in control, Vice President Mike Pence is thought to be a more competent leader than Donald Trump, at least abroad.  Russia’s Vladimir Putin, Chinese President Xi Jinping, and other foreign diplomats prefer Pence over Trump, a new Washington...
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[23-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/22/absolute-disgrace-when-no-one-looking-white-house-plans-dump-major-climate-report

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'Absolute Disgrace': When No One Looking, White House Plans to Dum...
The administration just announced Wednesday that the National Climate Assessment Volume II would be released Friday afternoon
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[23-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Disgusting


[23-Nov-18 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[23-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna939501

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Roger Stone associate Jerome Corsi says he's negotiating plea agre...
Corsi told NBC News in early November that he was "afraid they're going to lock me up and put me in solitary confinement."
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[23-Nov-18 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/23/climate-change-intensifying-economy-impacted-federal-report-finds/2093291002/

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U.S. impacts of climate change are intensifying, federal report says
The Trump Administration released a major report on climate change Friday, one that emphasizes the dire threat that human-caused global warming poses to the U.S. and its citizens.
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[23-Nov-18 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/geoengineering-treatment-stratospheric-aerosol-injection-climate-change-study-today-2018-11-23/

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Controversial spraying method aims to curb global warming
Planes spraying tiny sulphate particulates into the lower stratosphere could help shield Earth from just enough sunlight to help keep temperatures low
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[23-Nov-18 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh hye this is a thing


[23-Nov-18 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2cdDFSWAPQ

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FOX shows making fun of FOX
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[23-Nov-18 10:05 PM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda) isn't this is how Dinosaurs ended?


[23-Nov-18 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
the difference being that most of the planet had no sun visibility at all


[23-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
this would just lightly dust the atmosphere with light-reflecting particles


[23-Nov-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
think of it liek reverse snow


[23-Nov-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of beign on the ground, blinding everyone, it;s int he air blidnign aliens


[23-Nov-18 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
*gasp*


[23-Nov-18 10:18 PM] ononim#8141
@Arvid the bourgeoisie are trying to blind our space comrades!


[23-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Arvid#8335
oh noez


[23-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Arvid#8335
Also, why is the spraying method contreversial?


[23-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Arvid#8335
for curbing global warming


[23-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
because we don't know what the long-term effects would be of putting those particles in the atmosphere


[23-Nov-18 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaurs_(TV_series)#Final_episode

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Dinosaurs is an American family sitcom comedy television series that was originally broadcast on ABC from April 26, 1991 to October 19, 1994. The show, about a family of anthropomorphic dinosaurs (portrayed by puppets), was produced by Michael Jacobs Productions and Jim Henso...
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[23-Nov-18 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly just unforeseeable circumstances


[23-Nov-18 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we don;t know if it will work, and how it will effect us down at the bottom of the air ocean


[23-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Arvid#8335
The ending of that show


[23-Nov-18 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never actually watched dinosaurs


[23-Nov-18 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt it end with the mass extiction?


[23-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Arvid#8335
I mostly just know about it because the ending is well known/infamous


[23-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Arvid#8335
yes, it ends with them going extinct


[23-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Arvid#8335
I think they did it like that as a message about climate change.


[23-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/new-york-state-judge-rejects-trump-claim-that-he-cant-be-sued-because-hes-president.html

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New York state judge rejects Trump claim that he can't be sued bec...
In her ruling Friday, Justice Saliann Scarpulla shot down an argument from the Trump family's attorneys that the case should be dismissed because the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution suggests "a sitting president may not be sued."
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[23-Nov-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
fuckin' idiot


[23-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
In her ruling, Justice Saliann Scarpulla of the New York state Supreme Court shot down an argument from the Trump family's attorneys that the case should be dismissed because the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution suggests "a sitting president may not be sued."


[23-Nov-18 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
(yes, I realize that lawyer arguments don't necessarily reflect on the person being sued)


[23-Nov-18 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh his son just looks liek every rich smarmy douche from an 80's movie ever made


[23-Nov-18 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land.[1] It provides that state courts are bound by the supreme law; in case of conflict between federal and state law, the federal law must be applied. Even state constitutions are subordinate to federal law.[2] In essence, it is a conflict-of-laws rule specifying that certain federal acts take priority over any state acts that conflict with federal


[23-Nov-18 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it says absolutely nothing to suggest the president is above the law or unsue-able


[23-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All that this was ever meant to protect a president from was butthurt federal employees b upset that they were fired


[23-Nov-18 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing more


[23-Nov-18 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also his son just has a super punchable face


[23-Nov-18 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's liek a draco malfoy charicature


[23-Nov-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/health/climate-change-report-bn/index.html

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Climate change will shrink US economy and kill thousands, governme...
At a time when many Americans are distracted on a long holiday weekend, the Trump administration released a federally mandated report on climate change that delivers a dire warning about climate change and its devastating impacts on the country's health and economy.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180804095014-03-file-climate-change-super-tease.jpg


[23-Nov-18 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 Dust Bowl 2: Dry Boogaloo


[23-Nov-18 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're set for that. As soon as the Oglala Aquafer is dried up, we back to Woody Guthrie


[23-Nov-18 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt that the oen they intended to build an oil pipeline over?


[23-Nov-18 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that eventuALLY GOT RAILROaded by courts into building the pipe in a detour around it


[24-Nov-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/international/418011-spain-accuses-eu-of-treacherous-action-on-gibraltar-ahead-of-brexit

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Spain accuses EU of ‘treacherous’ action on Gibraltar ahead of...
Spain is accusing the European Union of "treacherous" action on Gibraltar, a disputed territory on Spain's southern coast, ahead of Sunday's Brexit signing-off summit.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/brexit2.jpg


[24-Nov-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, Spain wants to fukk over trade


[24-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just stop being a pussy and invade like Franco wanted to.


[24-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tijuana-mayor-declares-humanitarian-crisis-migrants-today-2018-11-23/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tijuana-mayor-declares-humanitarian-crisis-migrants-today-2018-11-23
"Humanitarian crisis" declared as 5,000 migrants reach Tijuana
Mayor says that Tijuana does not have the necessary infrastructure to adequately attend to the migrants
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/11/23/83cf48c0-827d-4ac9-8b15-aa661b6dbff9/thumbnail/1200x630/e4ff64500eaeb35825879da7a8a05aa0/tijuana-gettyimages-1071242958.jpg


[24-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by "humanitarian crisis"


[24-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he means the crisis is having to be humanitarian.


[24-Nov-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have you seen that photo of the Tijuana mayor wearing a "Make Mexico Great Again" hat?


[24-Nov-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's quite ironic and absurd


[24-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, the migrants are Honduran


[24-Nov-18 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
MAKE MEXICO DE SANTA ANNA AGAIN


[24-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how racists can unify even when one hates the other


[24-Nov-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
they find a race or country they both hate


[24-Nov-18 02:31 AM] Nile#1441
At least they’re not coming to Canada :Upvote:


[24-Nov-18 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yet


[24-Nov-18 02:32 AM] Nile#1441
We have enough immigrants, we don’t need a caravan


[24-Nov-18 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alaska could maybe use afew more


[24-Nov-18 02:34 AM] Nile#1441
Alaska needs to become part of Canada


[24-Nov-18 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'lltrade you alaska for a bottle of maple syrup


[24-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
North American Schengen please


[24-Nov-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you give us a tanker of maple syrup we'll throw in sarah pailin free of charge


[24-Nov-18 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/23/fox-news-guest-apologizes-saying-hillary-clinton-like-herpes/2094979002/

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Fox News guest apologizes for comparing Hillary Clinton to herpes ...
Fox News guest Anna Paulina compared former first lady and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to a sexually transmitted disease.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/10/13/USAT/5b3329ec-9f15-4cc5-9aef-af70715405bd-EPA_BRITAIN_HILLARY_CLINTON_VISITS_OXFORD.jpg?crop=2499,1406,x20,y15&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[24-Nov-18 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[24-Nov-18 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HA!


[24-Nov-18 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/trump-administration-wants-supreme-court-take-transgender-military-ban-now-n939531

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Trump administration wants Supreme Court to take up transgender mi...
The nation's highest court rarely allows such a move to leapfrog over the usual appeals process.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_47/2656521/181123-donald-trump-ew-256p_0a042a3248106dcecf9d73d4b2a39979.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[24-Nov-18 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
The Trump administration urged the U.S. Supreme Court Friday to immediately take up the legal battle over transgender military service, asking the justices to act even before the issue has gone through the lower courts.


[24-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If SCOTUS takes him up on it, it will be to shit all over the trans ban.


[24-Nov-18 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with trumps obsession with "havign the strongest military" i;m surprised he hasn;t tried to re-instate the draft


[24-Nov-18 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thne again we got liek 2 more years


[24-Nov-18 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
he probably brought it up lol


[24-Nov-18 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soooo...


[24-Nov-18 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
and was shot down


[24-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/23/influential-syrian-activist-raed-fares-gunned-down-in-idlib

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Influential Syrian activist Raed Fares gunned down in Idlib
Man who helped make ‘the conscience of the revolution’ killed along with colleague Hamoud Jneed
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8bdbcad29975d76e8d4ebd96e8c5ea2150cac549/0_33_1024_614/master/1024.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=d11c964960f38bd61cb9fcfa8d165c67


[24-Nov-18 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
moderate rebel was gunned down by radical militants


[24-Nov-18 04:54 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard today is people calling Mexicans racist because they don’t want the migrant “invasion” in their country. But..how can Hispanics be racist to other Hispanics? Like wut


[24-Nov-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they aren't the same kind of hispanic


[24-Nov-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they believe in a Mexican cultural and ethnic identity.


[24-Nov-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
People get really attached to arbitrary lines on the map.


[24-Nov-18 04:55 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s still not being racist then. That’s patriotism


[24-Nov-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not patriotism to dislike foreigners and get mad about them just passing thru


[24-Nov-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor is it patriotism to consider people inferior just because they're from a slightly more central part of central America (and hav less spanish ancestry)


[24-Nov-18 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's certainly *nationalism* (mixed with heavy racism), but nationalism and patriotism are different things.


[24-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They shouldn’t be passing through in the first place. Mexico has borders and laws for a reason. They don’t hate them because they are a different group of people or another nation, it’s because they refused help and asylum, and are disruptive. I think those warrant suspicion


[24-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patriotism is about supporting your country, nationalism is about your country being superior to others and forcing it to be so via hurting those from other countries.


[24-Nov-18 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't refuse help, they just want asylum in the US rather than Mexico


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is quite reasonable considering the violence from the cartels in Mexico


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s not how being a “refugee” works. You can’t pick and choose how needy and who gives you aid


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico and Honduras are in similar situations, the Honduran gangs could quite easily kill people that escape them in Honduras in Mexico


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That *is* how being a refugee works, actually


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the asylum system is so people can get to a country where they are safe


[24-Nov-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just whatever country is nearby


[24-Nov-18 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The asylum system was designed to help people fleeing communist countries, who may be surrounded by other communist countries, to get them to somewhere outside communism so they wouldn't be killed for their political inclinations.


[24-Nov-18 05:01 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
If you can afford to walk thousands of miles, refusing help along the way just to get better welfare from a country that doesn’t want you, obviously your not in any danger


[24-Nov-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having the money to travel doesn't mean you aren't a target for killing


[24-Nov-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
when you get mixed up in a gang war all the money in the world aren't the safety of the protection of a country with much fewer social problems and a large distance between you and the gangs that want you dead


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not seeking *better welfare*


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are seeking not being fukking shot in the head for no reason


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a reality in Honduras and in Mexico.


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s been mostly men traveling, grown adults. I think they are quite capable of protecting themselves. And their hasn’t been any reports of murders and mass killings in Mexico to warrant such fear.


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Men are more able and willing to travel, universally


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you are using a group being mostly men to justify refusing them, your goal is quite clear


[24-Nov-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[24-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
there hav been plenty of reports


[24-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico has been dealing with cartel violence for over a decade


[24-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://time.com/5324888/mexico-violence-murders/

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http://time.com/5324888/mexico-violence-murders
Mexico Is Suffering Its Bloodiest Year in Modern History. Here's Why.
"It's a perfect storm"
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/mexicoelectionviolence.jpeg?quality=85


[24-Nov-18 05:04 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s the same thing that happened to Germany and the EU. Men from the Middle East, refusing help from local countries, using any means necessary to enter a country that doesn’t want them. We all have seen how well that’s worked out for them.


[24-Nov-18 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You think Germany has been ruined by taking in a bunch of Syrians? Why?


[24-Nov-18 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, studies show that immigrants actually commit less crime per capita than native-born people


[24-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/2xJiQnW.jpg

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Creative Writing
https://i.imgur.com/2xJiQnW.jpg


[24-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
intellectual elitism


[24-Nov-18 05:06 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Despite not conforming to a countries laws and policy’s, they demand change to accommodate them. Increase stress on the economy by supporting them. The criminals that do enter make the rest look bad. And the whole argument of “why don’t they stay and make their home a better place instead of leaving”


[24-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
"why don't you stay to be bombed to death instead of fighting bombs with WILLPOWER"


[24-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do criminals that make up less of them than criminals do of us make them look bad?


[24-Nov-18 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are more law-abiding than us.


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just stay somewhere full of violence and make it better on your own


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
not even in a group of several thousand


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the forces creating violence are extremely large politically and not really stoppable by them.


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Were it so easy, the violence would hav stopped long ago.


[24-Nov-18 05:08 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
History has shown us otherwise. They are just spineless cowards, leaving their women and children behind to find a better life for themselves on the backs of others.


[24-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
How has history shown us otherwise?


[24-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why are they cowards for making a dangerous journey over thousands of miles to seek better lives for their children?


[24-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Many cultures in the past have fought against opposition to make life better for themselves. Not everyone runs in the face of danger


[24-Nov-18 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not entire cultures


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even this large caravan is a tiny portion of people in Honduras


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like a very small town


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nile#1441
If they're seeking shelter, why not stay in the nearest country


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the people of Honduras are burdened by political and economic forces that would take extreme coordinated action by a large section of the populace to deal with.


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It may be small, but this obviously has been happening over the course of many years, increasing the numbers.


[24-Nov-18 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Mexico is the nearest country


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it has record levels of violence right now.


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would be going to the very same thing they're fleeing if they stayed in Mexico.


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Nile#1441
Hell, why not go south to other Latin American countries


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they're rejecting Mexican asylum by and large (some do take it)


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going south is much harder, more border crossings, and leads to many places with violence of their own.


[24-Nov-18 05:11 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They already know some Americans don’t want them. They already know it’s futile to travel here. They already know we will deny them. Why try?


[24-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras hasn't been having large groups exit it over time


[24-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has been a slow trikkle and only for about a decade.


[24-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because securing a life for your family where they won't be shot in the streets is really kind of important.


[24-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if there is only a chance of getting it.


[24-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same reason Libyans go on boats where many don't survive to reach Europe


[24-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you had the choice of remaining in squalor, and selling your kids to slavery


[24-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
or going on a trip where you likely won't survive, but your kids probably will


[24-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, if you had quite a bit of courage, you'd go.


[24-Nov-18 05:13 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
How is that our problem? The United States isn’t responsible to help 3rd world countries that can’t get their shit together, help their own people and are complete failures.


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if a bunch of people sitting pretty in the place where there is almost no slavery in violence told you you were a "coward" for doing so.


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nile#1441
😂 I like this guy


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s selfish but true


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we do not help each other, it makes things worse for everyone


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
department of labor statistics show that illegal immigrants, if allowed to work and pay taxes legally, pay for themselves in about 7 years and help grow the economy from there on out


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the impact of a few thousand migrants is MINIMAL, we hav plenty of space and economic capacity


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it pays off *for us*


[24-Nov-18 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
actually, I think that study was specifically when also given federal housing as well


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it helps the country they are coming from if it's got issues of overcrowding.


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally, we should be going out and fixing Honduras


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be better for the world in the long run


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
And yet we have veterans and other homeless suffering in our own country that we refuse to help. Yet, we want to take in a bunch of male travelers that are perfectly fine and didn’t know existed till a few weeks ago.


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
like it or not, we're part of the same planet and trading with each other


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
fallacy


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
we should be helping them too


[24-Nov-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore


[24-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
why does your ignorance justify this?


[24-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honduras didn't, like, do a retcon of itself a couple weeks ago


[24-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has had problems for years


[24-Nov-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
people saw this coming, it just wasn't a major news item


[24-Nov-18 05:17 AM] Nile#1441
Honduras is gay


[24-Nov-18 05:18 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s not ignorance. Being selfish and denying entrance are virtues that protect this country. It is not a right to go where you please, it is not a right to demand something from someone, that owes you nothing. Would you let 12 sweaty Hispanics sleep in your house?


[24-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was referring to "didn’t know existed till a few weeks ago."


[24-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there are practical reasons why my house can't house 12 extra people


[24-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
the United States however has TONS of extra housing to fit 5,000 people


[24-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
I can tell you, mainstream media wasn’t covering this until recently. We didn’t send troops to the border till recently


[24-Nov-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spread those 5,000 around, and you're looking at less than one person added *per city*


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Average Americans didn’t give a fuck till recently


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I gave a fukk long before this particular caravan was news


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and troops don't do anything


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
migrants crossing borders are almost never violent


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
our border security is more than adequate to handle them and process their asylum claims


[24-Nov-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the military is also *prohibited* from operating militarily within our borders.


[24-Nov-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And denying entrance is a value that does not "protect" us from things. Nobody is trying to destroy our culture by sending immigrants. Whatever happened to "send me your tired, your hungry, your poor"?


[24-Nov-18 05:22 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
The national guard are an exception to that, hence The Californian, Texan, newmexico and Nevada national guard has been deployed. I can tell you that the sight of armed guards, Constantine wire and barricades, will deter most.


[24-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it will not


[24-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are well aware that they won't be shot just for crossing


[24-Nov-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and deterring them should not be a goal


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Violent or not, is no excuse to do whatever you want.


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nile#1441
Sadly they're aware


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would leave them in Mexico and likely without proper application for asylum


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is the worst outcome for everyone.


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Not for us. That’s Mexico’s problem for not stopping them at their border


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
For us, we get an economic boost by having young people determined to make a living for their family.


[24-Nov-18 05:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If people got shot for crossing US borders the roads between canada and the US would be red.


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, speaking of population demographics and economics for a moment


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
you ideally want young adults


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially men


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
babies and kids are a drain on the economy


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
as are old people


[24-Nov-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
young men who can do labor and learn skills are incredibly valuable economically


[24-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
I doubt anyone would shoot each other on the Canadian border. That’s two countries with a solid economy and middle class with only benefits between them.


[24-Nov-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are essentially worker bees, and if you get some immigrating, those are ones you didn't pay the cost to raise


[24-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you should fear economically is when people *leave* your country as young adults, because then you paid the cost to raise and educate them and aren't getting any payoff.


[24-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But America doesn't really hav a big outflow of immigration, so there isn't an economic issue to immigration.


[24-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, are you saying that it's okay for Canadians to come in because they aren't poor?


[24-Nov-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't that classism?


[24-Nov-18 05:28 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
No one is gonna leave America, it’s too good compared to what they have. I don’t blame them. But the way they are doing it is wrong. 
Allowing something to happen because it’s mutually beneficial for both parties is not classism


[24-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Canada only accepts migrants if they have something to offer, a job already set up in the place of residence, and approval.


[24-Nov-18 05:29 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
By comparison, the US is way more forgiving


[24-Nov-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is immigration between Canada and America beneficial to both parties but this not?


[24-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nile#1441
"Why are two prosperous nations who immigrate to eachother so beneficial to one another?"


[24-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Because the opportunities available in Canada, and available to the average working man, make gaining population from them a much more stable investment.


[24-Nov-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then aren't they losing a productive worker, which hurts them?


[24-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it *mutually* beneficial?


[24-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, do you think us gaining less educated workers from Honduras is not beneficial?


[24-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
A man from Canada has a higher chance of being educated, speaking English, and already knowing a skill, then competed to someone from Honduras.


[24-Nov-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If so, do you think there is a threshold of education quality at which an immigrant becomes beneficial? And if so, based on what?


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's an argument that Canadians are *more* beneficial.


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not that they are beneficial while Hondurans aren't.


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our economy has uses for people who hav trouble speaking English, but are willing to learn, and possess some skills.


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
btw the biggest terrorist threat is homegrown terrorists now


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would such a person be a net negative?


[24-Nov-18 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/21/junaid-hussain-most-dangerous-terrorist-cyber-hacking-222643

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/21/junaid-hussain-most-dangerous-terrorist-cyber-hacking-222643
Inside the Hunt for the World’s Most Dangerous Terrorist
How a British hacker joined ISIS’s top ranks and launched a deadly global cyber plot.
https://static.politico.com/c0/d6/d15718444cf0a940ba14d52010dd/tfc112318-ledeimage.jpg


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
because they're not easily tracked


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Particularly given the data Crow talks about, which shows that after 7 years, we actually get a net positive from immigrants.


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Because as the modern age becomes more technical, and the demand for higher education increases. Manual labor will become less and less needed


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we still need a lot of manual labor right now


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
particularly on farms in southern areas near the border.


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Those lacking in skills will be laid off and become a burden


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
our infrastructure is literally rotting


[24-Nov-18 05:34 AM] Nile#1441
Less beneficial to Honduras for suffering brain drain


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could do with some people to repair the roads and harvest the crops.


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
in my welding class, one of my welding professors was confused as to why I would take a welding course when I've already taken calculus


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nile#1441
Get Americans to do it


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, Honduras is getting screwed.


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
he said that if I became a welder, I'd be working next to people who were illiterate


[24-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting Americans to do such work isn't easy


[24-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
native-born populations are less motivated, it seems, than immigrants


[24-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immigrants represent people who are quite willing to drop everything and go somewhere else and do whatever it takes.


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
human-infecting parasites which were irradicated in the US are making a comeback because little kids are actually playing right next to open sewage pipes


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone has the courage and determination to cross *the whole of Mexico* even just to seek a better job


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nile#1441
Why do native citizens feel so entitled to not do the jobs that need to be done


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
why are we not letting them in?


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
because a sizeable portion of the country isn't willing to pay for fixing the infrastructure


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So let them in to be the average Americans slave force? To do the dirty work we won’t do? That sounds even worse then making them sit outside the border fence


[24-Nov-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, the sewage issues are racial


[24-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nile#1441
SEWAGE IS RACIST


[24-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the roads and water pipes that are massive infrastructure failures


[24-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
poor sewage systems are largely due to blakk areas historically never being part of sewer districts etc. in the south


[24-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and no funding being given to them


[24-Nov-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
combined with laws that punish people for not dealing with sewage


[24-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
kinda makes it hard to get a septic tank when you keep getting fined for not having one.


[24-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their children tho would be just like the average American, @Pizzamovies. That's how it works.


[24-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are coming to make a better life *for their children*.


[24-Nov-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
After a few generations, they're as American as apple pie


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
btw nebulon, I really recommend reading that article, linked it a couple days ago at like 4 am when nobody was up lol


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, America works as an engine that turns Spanish speakers into English speakers.


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which article?


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/21/junaid-hussain-most-dangerous-terrorist-cyber-hacking-222643

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/21/junaid-hussain-most-dangerous-terrorist-cyber-hacking-222643
Inside the Hunt for the World’s Most Dangerous Terrorist
How a British hacker joined ISIS’s top ranks and launched a deadly global cyber plot.
https://static.politico.com/c0/d6/d15718444cf0a940ba14d52010dd/tfc112318-ledeimage.jpg


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nile#1441
I'd much rather we take more immigration from Europe.


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spanish would overall be growing, but America's existence to convert people to English has instead put English on top.


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
in 2015, they literally dropped a hellfire on this guy as he was walking out of a cafe


[24-Nov-18 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
because of how dangerous he was through his technological propaganda campaign


[24-Nov-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the "kill and overkill anyone that so much as livs next to our enemy" approach.


[24-Nov-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very good at generating more terrorists.


[24-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how do you feel about that, @Pizzamovies? Converting people to English speakers that want freedom etc., over time, generationally, by assimilating them as immigrants?


[24-Nov-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we refused more immigrants, we would assimilate fewer people and thus spread Americanism less.


[24-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Nile#1441
Americanism is stupid.


[24-Nov-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Combine it with easier entrance to other countries for Americans, and you can essentially take over the world culturally.


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could pacify the Middle East...by making them all watch Jersey Shore.


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Take in the Syrians, get them Americanized, send them bakk when Syria is stable again.


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s what the British did for their empire. Make everyone they conquered British. Look how that ended up.


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
With their Bald Eagle T-shirts, fidget spinners, copies of Fortnite, etc.


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It actually ended up pretty well


[24-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada's still ruled by the Queen


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Australia is doing great


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is doing pretty well


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
he apparently managed to obtain a list of 100 government and military officials via another hacker who was sympathetic to islamic terrorism that managed to install malware on a US online retailer's site to steal credit card info


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nile#1441
🇨🇦


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
india is still >designated tho


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
India's not too great, but their main problems are caused by capitalism plus tribal villages and that shitty caste system


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
But how did that end up for the *parent country* obviously the spawn will do great.


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
but that's because they kept their own culture with the caste system


[24-Nov-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is doing fine


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its main problem right now is that it decided to pull out of the EU without a real plan lol


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
like 90% of india's problems atm can be directly tied to their caste system


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in terms of political issues


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nile#1441
I dislike the UK, I only like the Queen


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and things that actually kill people


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
You make it sound like the UK isn’t fighting a culture battle of their own, and fending off the EU


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit is first-world problems.


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What culture battle?


[24-Nov-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And fending off *what* from the EU?


[24-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
People refusing to allow migrants into subways in London? Shops being closed to migrants?


[24-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Where have you been?


[24-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
This was like big shit a few months ago


[24-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why is that a problem from UK imperialism?


[24-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are claiming that spreading British culture is the cause of these problems.


[24-Nov-18 05:48 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
*because the US isn’t the only country that wants to keep their country intact*


[24-Nov-18 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does letting migrants into the subway and shops destroy the country?


[24-Nov-18 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you havn't answered the question about how imperalism caused this.


[24-Nov-18 05:49 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Those are small things. It’s the bigger picture. If it wasn’t a problem, then why is it getting so much attention?


[24-Nov-18 05:49 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
If it wasn’t a problem. *why do so many people care?*


[24-Nov-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Argumentum ad Populum


[24-Nov-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a fallacy for a reason


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
to explain


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
these things are getting attention because people hate migrants


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and want to make a big deal out of their existence


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
that big deal being made shouldn't justify the hatred or reinforcing things motivated by the hatred.


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
We were fine before, and will continue to be fine without them.


[24-Nov-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and we will be fine with them.


[24-Nov-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no real threats to the UK or US right now (aside of perhaps if China decided to go to war, but that's far off)


[24-Nov-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are making immigrants out to be a threat, because they personally fear the immigrants for having a different culture.


[24-Nov-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes personal, thinking about like if "12 sweaty mexicans" were in your house


[24-Nov-18 05:51 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s exactly it. The fear of ones culture being overtaken by another invading culture


[24-Nov-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
when the reality is a few normal guys working in construction in town.


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not invading, they are fleeing violence


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
92% of Syrians in Turkey surveyed planned to return to Syria when possible


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't *want* to liv in the EU permanently, or affect its culture


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They flee and bring their roots and ideals with them, refusing to accept the standards of those around them


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Yuri#4154
Quite a lot of people in the UK just hate anyone that isn't British


[24-Nov-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just want to liv where they won't be shot, and return home when they'll no longer be shot their


[24-Nov-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they don't *refuse* to accept our standards


[24-Nov-18 05:53 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So feed off of us until someone else deals with their problems at home?


[24-Nov-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
generally, immigrants adopt the culture they liv in after a generation or two


[24-Nov-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't "feeding off" of us when they get jobs and contribute to the economy


[24-Nov-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor when their children are educated and brought up as us and then themselves contribute to the economy.


[24-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in terms of the scale


[24-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe has over 700 million people


[24-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Adding in 2 million Syrians is less than half a percent added


[24-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like having very very slightly higher population growth


[24-Nov-18 05:54 AM] Nile#1441
You say it like it's just Syrians


[24-Nov-18 05:55 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
My government has me in Korea, protecting them, when the real battle is at home. This was a good conversation, but only strengthened my beliefs that immigration must be severely controlled and American beliefs protected.


[24-Nov-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Syrians are the ones of main concern.


[24-Nov-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why did it strengthen your beliefs?


[24-Nov-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You multiple times said things that are not in line with the actual data.


[24-Nov-18 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you just rejecting everything me and Crow say because it's not in line with what you already believed?


[24-Nov-18 05:57 AM] Nile#1441
muh data


[24-Nov-18 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, why do you think American beliefs are at threat, when data indicates that immigrants assimilate American culture over generations?


[24-Nov-18 05:57 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
No, because your explanations only helped increase my awareness on the situation, and form my own conclusion. That’s progress. Making others believe you are right, is what migrants will do when they enter our county.


[24-Nov-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Migrants don't generally go around trying to convince people politically, it's one of the last things on their list of concerns.


[24-Nov-18 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why they end up adopting the culture of the place they move to.


[24-Nov-18 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, are you *more fearful* because you know more about what you consider a threat?


[24-Nov-18 06:00 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Know ones enemy, before they become your friend


[24-Nov-18 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Migrants are not your enemy


[24-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they do not want to hurt you.


[24-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to liv.


[24-Nov-18 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone does not want to hurt you, is not going to hurt you, and actually makes your area's economy better...why are they your enemy?


[24-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
I wouldn’t let some Hispanic farm worker try to hurt me anyways. That’s retarded. If my accusations were based off of what would personally affect me, I wouldn’t give a shit


[24-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Incels are legitimately a bigger threat to safety than Islamists


[24-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you are indicating they are your enemy


[24-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you believe Hispanics are your enemy?


[24-Nov-18 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Recently in my area a man went into a store and told women at gunpoint to strip and prepare to be sexually assaulted


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
As an American, who eats fast food, speaks English and is educated. Yes, they are


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The one women who said no, he killed


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what part of that makes them your enemy?


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@Pizzamovies ????


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We need to have screening programs to prevent incels from existing from early tweenage years


[24-Nov-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it because they eat different food? (They don't, fast food is all over central and South America)


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it because they speak a different language? They can learn English, and data shows their children *will*.


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it because they're uneducated? Their children won't be.


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s the principle behind it. They didn’t have Spanish translation signs everywhere when I was a kid 20 years ago. Now they do


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie the joke is that Hispanics only have cheese meat and bread despite American culture relying on cheese meat and bread


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you're angry that we had to do something to make it easier for them to assimilate?


[24-Nov-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just the principle of US having to do something for THEM?


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That seems, quite frankly, stupid


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Angry is a strong word. It’s the fact we are changing at all to accommodate non Americans


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We stole the land from Mexico lmao


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Why sacrifice for those that we owe nothing too?


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't cost us any extra money to put extra words on a stop sign, it's just a slightly different paint scheme


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The border moved over them


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't sacrificing anything by doing that


[24-Nov-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an incredibly minor change


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
And we stole from the native Americans and the Spanish stole from the Aztecs. Shut up lol


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, learning another language as a kid actually improves mental development.


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
something tells me that if we had not done anything to help immigrants assimilate, you'd _still_ be against immigration


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want to live in a place where there's only English there's plenty of small towns in Iowa you can go to.


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, I don't think this is really about us *sacrificing*


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure it's that you don't like non-Americans


[24-Nov-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you talked about the cultural stuff (when it wasn't even American-specific)


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just hatred in a pretty wrapper.


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're on the other side of the imaginary line, so it's okay, guys.


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So now your gonna accuse me of being racist? Knew it would come to that.


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie nothing is new, people just want the mythical Western European immigrant who abandons everything


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying racist


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying nationalist.


[24-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You very clearly are nationalist, in the hateful sense.


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, the idea of "12 sweaty mexicans", slandering them by calling them sweaty


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
After being in south Korea on active military duty and seeing how much they hate their brothers up north. Hating immigrants is a very practical. It’s not wrong to be suspicious of outsiders.


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no difference in how sweat glands operate between Americans and Mexicans.


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fallacious


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're doing Argumentum ad Populum again


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the argument that because others hate immigrants, it's okay for you to, too


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
something being popular has no bearing on it being right


[24-Nov-18 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ynsAqNI.png

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So many questions...
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[24-Nov-18 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
practicality also, is a matter of what *works*, not what's *popular*


[24-Nov-18 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
People often culturally do things that are impractical


[24-Nov-18 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Personal experience but


[24-Nov-18 06:10 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
If we went with what works all the time, we would already have colonies on the moon and cured cancer. That’s not how things work


[24-Nov-18 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of the people I know who hate immigrants the most never will see them


[24-Nov-18 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But why are you against it being how things should work?


[24-Nov-18 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you want to hate immigrants?


[24-Nov-18 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No immigrant wants your shithole in Arkansas sorru


[24-Nov-18 06:11 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
I never once said hate. Don’t label and presume because I have accused them of things that have happened


[24-Nov-18 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything you hav said strongly implies you hate them.


[24-Nov-18 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be illogical to assume you don't.


[24-Nov-18 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially after you defended hating them with a fallacious argument.


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, as far as a racial component


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Everything I have said strongly implies I do not accept a bunch of able bodied men, who are fleeing from a country that has done nothing for them, through a country that is just fine, to come use our system to live off of and benefit from.


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would you be as angry about people from a European country with GDP etc. similar to Mexico immigrating?


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly poor, they don't speak English, everything is the same except they're white.


[24-Nov-18 06:13 AM] Nile#1441
I'd rather they stay in their own nation.


[24-Nov-18 06:14 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Take Poland for example? Poland is white. They don’t speak English. They have a stable economy, great education system and a large skilled workforce in the modern age. No I wouldn’t have a problem.


[24-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if they didn't?


[24-Nov-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
What would you think about a White Mexico in Europe sending immigrants here?


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Then it becomes a morale issue. Are they being slaughtered from an outside force? Is it open civil war? Is it women and children? Or a bunch of healthy men?


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthy men being slaughtered by an inside force.


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Those aren’t men then


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cartel violence, drugs and guns.


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then what are they?


[24-Nov-18 06:16 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Cowards.


[24-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, yes, the argument that people who go thousands of miles with no certainty to get a better future for their family and children are *cowards*


[24-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They run when they should do everything in their power to improve their communities.


[24-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suppose it must work well to dehumanize them.


[24-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Improving their communities is the easier thing to do, they just happen to get shot doing it.


[24-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just wave a magic dikk and hav everyone stop shooting you over your relatives being people they dislike.


[24-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
At least the Middle East is fighting to keep itself intact.


[24-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it's not, it's fighting itself for no reason and causing a huge outflux of refugees


[24-Nov-18 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then natural disasters come in and make it worse


[24-Nov-18 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
people sell their own children to other poor families to get a little tiny bit of money to make it farther


[24-Nov-18 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they hav no other choice.


[24-Nov-18 06:19 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
And..we want people who are desperate enough to do that among us?


[24-Nov-18 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
People being desperate enuff to sell their own children doesn't make them bad people


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were forced into that position


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it really came down to it, there are lots of horrible things someone could make you do.


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s like someone shooting their dog because the apartment their moving into doesn’t allow pets


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
no it isn't


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying we shouldn't help the needy *because they're needy* is abhorrent.


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
if they are here, in a fully developed nation, selling their children and eating is not something they would have to decide between


[24-Nov-18 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's much different where there's fucking desert everywhere and no food


[24-Nov-18 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
and insurgents are blowing up your shit


[24-Nov-18 06:22 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
The US can take the blame for a lot of what’s happening in the Middle East. I personally can. But Central America has nothing to do with us. We aren’t obligated to help


[24-Nov-18 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
dude did you just completely forget your history


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, the CIA


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Yes we invaded Panama, yes we have influenced political figures in that region. But how does that affect on the lowest level?


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Banana Republics


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just Panama


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Panama was the country where we TOOK OVER PART OF ITS LAND OFFICIALLY


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there were large swaths of central america that were taken over by fruit companies


[24-Nov-18 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US sold old warships to them


[24-Nov-18 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
wars were fought in and around Honduras over who owned the damn bananas


[24-Nov-18 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US intentionally did all of this to make tons of money off of the trade


[24-Nov-18 06:24 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So business practices from decades ago are causing problems now. Like anyone could foresee that


[24-Nov-18 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Business practices"


[24-Nov-18 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, business practices that involved murder, enslavement, open warfare with military equipment...


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think someone could foresee that down the road there may be political and economic problems for a long time from doing all of this.


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally speaking


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
You make it sound like the banana cooperations hired US troops to slaughter civilians and take over


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
when you go around shooting up the natives


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and don't giv them any of the money that you make off of their labor


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and encourage warfare between them


[24-Nov-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
for multiple decades


[24-Nov-18 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That causes severe problems for centuries.


[24-Nov-18 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, not US troops...at least not *usually* US troops


[24-Nov-18 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
sometimes troops were involved to take over


[24-Nov-18 06:27 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
The US does have a habit of interfering in internal affairs of other countries, then stepping away and denying it. But that doesn’t automatically stop people from doing something about it.


[24-Nov-18 06:28 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They run. But that only increase the problem. It would only make it easier for the fighting and killing to continue if their is no one around to stop it


[24-Nov-18 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
so you're saying because they didn't fix the damage from US that there was no way they could have fixed anyway and then got fucked even harder by the drug war


[24-Nov-18 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
that it's their fault


[24-Nov-18 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
ok


[24-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of his arguments, @byte[], revolve around people personally having unlimited power


[24-Nov-18 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
that people can just somehow fix their entire country's problem with a wish


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
not to mention this garbage about calling people "cowards"


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if they are in crazy circumstances where natural disasters are occurring alongside warfare


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
as if running from your problems isn't sometimes the best thing you could do


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that anyone who doesn't thus take up the burden to exercise their unlimited power, and instead leaves, is a coward, and thus not worthy of anything


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
People hav limited capabilities.


[24-Nov-18 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I cannot fix all of America in my lifetime no matter how hard I work.


[24-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe with a few million others I could


[24-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's unrealistic to really do that.


[24-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So your saying, a dedicated group of people who want change are unable to improve their situation at home? So just forgetting the Cubans, and the Mexican revolution, and the Vietnamese. And many other groups who have stayed and faced hardships and prevailed.


[24-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't really matter how many people you have when your enemies (your own government and foreign governments) have tanks and jets


[24-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in some of the Central American countries, their problems would take more than their total population to fix because they are largely economic and relate to trade with other countries and built-up wealth issues.


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just because some countries hav succeeded doesn't mean every country can


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The circumstances vary wildly


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
They run because it’s easier, not because they care about what’s happening to their home


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Countries hav different natural resources, different geographical positions, different political issues, different populations


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They care quite a bit


[24-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Syrians for example care massively about Syria


[24-Nov-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority of them want to return home *with money from working in Europe* when they are able


[24-Nov-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the idea of returning and making their home better


[24-Nov-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that may be the best way they hav of fixing Syria


[24-Nov-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
by using money and cultural ideals acquired in Europe


[24-Nov-18 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe clearly has somewhat good cultural ideas


[24-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So they leave, letting those that remain, family members, neighbors to suffer. They stay in another country only to benefit themselves, and then they return when things are either cleared up or improved.


[24-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Is that what your saying?


[24-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They return to benefit those family members and neighbors, who may also leave as well.


[24-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is what they want to do.


[24-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they are trying to do.


[24-Nov-18 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Staying in a bombed-out building unable to do anything, vs. making a life in Europe and gaining wealth and education to bring bakk to one day fix up that building.


[24-Nov-18 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which one benefits the community more?


[24-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s the part I don’t agree with. The US isn’t a hotel. Shouldn’t just be able to come in, live in the fruits of our labors, then say “bye it was fun, thanks for the great opportunity but gotta go” and return after the problem is gone.


[24-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there is a mutual benefit


[24-Nov-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Them working for us doesn't just take away from us and giv to them


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it givs to us both


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way two nations trading resources doesn't *just* exchange resources


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it actually creates a net benefit *for both*


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
economics isn't a zero-sum game


[24-Nov-18 06:39 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
If it worked like that, I’m pretty sure we would have open borders 5 presidents ago.


[24-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does work like that, and that's why virtually all the capitalistic countries hav easy visa arrangements between them


[24-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone going from France to the US to Australia has a really, really easy time immigrating


[24-Nov-18 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
even for work in all three


[24-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is much harder from [former] communist countries or from countries that stayed neutral in the Cold War


[24-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
who you let in isn't about who helps your economy the most


[24-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's largely about which countries you were friends with


[24-Nov-18 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Take Poland, for instance


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland today is as you describe


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but people migrating from Poland to the US face a much, much harder time getting approval vs. people migrating from France to the US


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because Poland used to be communist.


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no other reason.


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The workers are of very similar quality


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[24-Nov-18 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
the French are less likely to speak English


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
because their media tends to all be in French


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So, what is stopping this peachy perfect relation from happening between the US and other countries? Besides people like me


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just people like you


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a lot of them.


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
People express that they don't like the Polish


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
or the Mexicans, or the Syrians


[24-Nov-18 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
so we don't easily let them come to work here.


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody expresses they don't like the French.


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is an experiment


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
in having open borders


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Popular opinion gets in the way of many things. But without it you would have many upset people


[24-Nov-18 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
no immigration chekks


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
no tariffs


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
just open borders you can walk across without being stopped


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the EU is...working


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
really really well


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Countries that join the EU get a boost to economic growth


[24-Nov-18 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's actually kinda suprising how fast actual racism between different cultures in europe died after the EU was formed


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and much of the fear about Brexit is centered on how having a border again with the continent makes it harder to do things like exchange scientists or investors


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even when the EU takes in much poorer countries


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
ones that don't speak the big EU languages


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
also no matter where a person emigrates from, there'll always be initial resentment


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, Europe's Mexicos


[24-Nov-18 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it still benefits the EU to do so


[24-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing all this kerfuffle with immigrations and customs enforcement makes the money flow better.


[24-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes the ideas flow better


[24-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes the *people* flow better


[24-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
people end up able to actually go where they are needed


[24-Nov-18 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and services go where they are needed


[24-Nov-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
if a country has problems with violence, the EU can direct efforts to fix those problems, and businesses can spring up to provide better healthcare *from other countries in the EU*


[24-Nov-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is a giant experiment in "what if the borders were open?"


[24-Nov-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it has shown massive success.


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Erecting more barriers to immigrants might make a lot of people happy, but it doesn't make them wealthier and it doesn't improve society.


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe is facing a few million Syrian immigrants


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
so is Lebanon


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lebanon had 1/100th Europe's population


[24-Nov-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that less than half a percent?


[24-Nov-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot more to Lebanon


[24-Nov-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
nearly a quarter of its population now is Syrian immigrants


[24-Nov-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what happens when countries like those in the EU start getting tuff on a trikkle of immigrants from far-off places, it makes far more of them bunch up in places nearby to the source country


[24-Nov-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
which then will create actual social problems


[24-Nov-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lebanon and Jordan are struggling with the extra people


[24-Nov-18 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
*because* the EU wants to make things hard for no reason


[24-Nov-18 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spreading the immigrants out is much better for everyone.


[24-Nov-18 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, one of the things many hate, that once you're in the EU, you can move freely


[24-Nov-18 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
may actually be greatly reducing the problems from accepting refugees in


[24-Nov-18 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it means they can spread out to different countries instead of potentially overloading popular landing areas


[24-Nov-18 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/22/fedex-driver-fatally-punches-back-after-racist-vitriol-oregon/2089320002/

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FedEx driver Timothy Warren acted in self-defense when he fatally punched  Joseph Magnuson on September 26 in Portland, Oregon, prosecutors say.
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[24-Nov-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Talk shit, get hit." a nutshell


[24-Nov-18 08:11 AM] Nile#1441
I've seen people get manslaughter for less


[24-Nov-18 08:11 AM] Nile#1441
Yet he gets nothing


[24-Nov-18 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
obviously the system is broken


[24-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
depending on your point of view, it's broken in one way or the other


[24-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody would get manslaughter for this, actually


[24-Nov-18 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a legal precedent from English law whereby you can't be held liable for unforeseeable consequences of your actions. The injuries expectable from a punch this hard do not include death.


[24-Nov-18 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If instead the guy beat him with a tire-iron, for sure manslaughter would be on the table.


[24-Nov-18 08:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/JuMJSf1-4dg

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[24-Nov-18 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Nov-18 04:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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The final boss of the alt-right.

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[24-Nov-18 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what would be the reaction of Adolf Hitler himself if he knew his future fans would be a bunch of Japanese-bootlicking modernist hypocrites.


[24-Nov-18 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But alas, Hitler himself was hypocritical.


[24-Nov-18 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it weird that i'm an american who finds the sheer amount fo flag worship in our country just a tad creepy?


[24-Nov-18 05:11 PM] Nile#1441
No?


[24-Nov-18 05:12 PM] Litrojia#0612
Lots do


[24-Nov-18 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have flag udnerwear...


[24-Nov-18 05:13 PM] Nile#1441
So do a lot of nations


[24-Nov-18 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i shouldnt be too surprised


[24-Nov-18 05:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1065994300247412736?s=19

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[24-Nov-18 05:55 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
🤔


[24-Nov-18 05:57 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Anyone got anything to say on this?


[24-Nov-18 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes the NRA are a dumb bunch of fucks who don't understand how laws work and are mainly intersted in the money thye make from gun manufacturers. The more gun control there is the less money there is in their pockets


[24-Nov-18 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if a bunch of doctors are unpleased with their patients getting shot up then so be it they still made money.


[24-Nov-18 06:02 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Hey, but I like guns too


[24-Nov-18 06:02 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that doesn't mean I'm in their group, right?


[24-Nov-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah


[24-Nov-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guns are fine as long as they're used responsibly and not on other humans outside of defense purposes


[24-Nov-18 06:03 PM] Mikey#7286
guns aren't inherently bad, we need gun control but also we need to fix the underlying issues that cause gun violence


[24-Nov-18 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The cdc has been advocating for a study for that for decades now but the NRA is having none of it because it might hurt their moneymakiing schemes


[24-Nov-18 06:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
because from what I've read artists and liberals aren't more reasonable than the NRA when it comes to gun control


[24-Nov-18 06:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they seem to only focus on the guns


[24-Nov-18 06:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
while ignoring what is it that makes irresponsible gun users that way (mental health, societal discrimination, etc)


[24-Nov-18 06:08 PM] Mikey#7286
they aren't


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
they think a total gun confiscation will fix the issues


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it wont


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
California is especially notorious for this kind of people


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly it might actually escalate things farther


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
remember that "ghost gun with thirty magazine-clips" thing?


[24-Nov-18 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[24-Nov-18 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i'm assumign anti gun PSAs are as bad as the truth.org anti smoking PSAs


[24-Nov-18 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was the ghost gun thing the fuss over 3d printed guns?


[24-Nov-18 06:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0

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Anti-Gun Senator Kevin De Leon Makes a Fool of Himself
Rabidly anti-gun CA State Senator Kevin de Leon (a Democrat from Los Angeles) made a real fool of himself at a press conference for his new gun control bill ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iJmFEv6BHM0/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Nov-18 06:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
this was the video I think


[24-Nov-18 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the gun that shoots whole clips instead of bullets


[24-Nov-18 06:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
if people like him are in charge of making gun laws in Cali, no wonder that place's gun laws are crazy af


[24-Nov-18 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now i;m just imagining someone loading a potato gun with clips instead of potatoes


[24-Nov-18 06:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
a potato gun with a potato magazine?


[24-Nov-18 06:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
That's cool, I want one 🤣


[24-Nov-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the 2nd amendment, this is what James Madison proposed: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person."


[24-Nov-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The last clause, about conscientious objection, made it damn clear that they were using the idiomatic meaning of "bear arms" as in *defend the country*.


[24-Nov-18 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The senate unfortunately pulled out the militia definition and conscientious objection, and changed the semicolon to a comma, which made the intent far less clear.


[24-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who says the 2nd amendment allows for personal defense with owned guns is literally lying.


[24-Nov-18 07:15 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So which amandement allows for self defense then?


[24-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 2nd amendment was passed specifically to say that people could, thru gov't, put together militaries.


[24-Nov-18 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of them do.


[24-Nov-18 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Self-defense itself is a legal concept that's part of the law, but nothing in the constitution provides that you must be able to own weapons with which to do it.


[24-Nov-18 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, these days states don't really hav militias, we hav the National Guard. The bill of rights was written at a time when anti-federalists weren't just wakkos who really just wanted segregation and lynchings.


[24-Nov-18 07:17 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so if the 2nd Amandement wasn't a base on allowing ownership of weapons, then what is?


[24-Nov-18 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing is.


[24-Nov-18 07:18 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm sure they didn't just allow Americans to own guns as is?


[24-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
For the most part, gun ownership was regulated


[24-Nov-18 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were towns that didn't allow guns to be brought in, you'd hav to leave them at the train station etc.


[24-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
We ended up where we are with gun ownership because the firearms industry needed more customers and the early 20th century saw massive interstate crime due to each state being an island onto itself for law enforcement


[24-Nov-18 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone could rob a bank in one state and drive to another and the authorities just had no way of catching them


[24-Nov-18 07:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
something which is still a bit of an issue to this day


[24-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
This resulted in forming the FBI to actually organize that stuff, one of the final nails in the anti-federalism coffin


[24-Nov-18 07:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and I defined the FBI as "police with countrywide jurisdiction" back then lel


[24-Nov-18 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And after the gov't passed a major ban on certain kinds of guns, other kinds had to be pushed harder by the firearms suppliers


[24-Nov-18 07:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
was Reagan banning the registration of new automatic weapons in 1986 neccesary though?


[24-Nov-18 07:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Didn't they ban importation of automatic weapons in 1968 too?


[24-Nov-18 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The end result is this crazy setup where people think they hav a *right* to hav a handgun, that it's totally okay to make machine guns illegal, but not totally okay to make semi-autos illegal even tho they can be turned into autos with a single piece of plastic


[24-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Apparently no other Western country is as obsessed with guns as America


[24-Nov-18 07:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I don't think Swiss was this close in terms of guns


[24-Nov-18 07:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I mean, it's a place where people can, and are even encouraged to, keep their SG-550 assault rifles (provided the full-auto is removed) after compulsory military service


[24-Nov-18 07:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so basically every able-bodied adult who served in the military over there has an assault rifle


[24-Nov-18 07:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and yet it's nowhere near fucked up as America


[24-Nov-18 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well considering they had to got hrough military service to get those rifles thye elarned discip;line and that those guns are not toys


[24-Nov-18 07:25 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Found the wiki page on gun laws in Swiss


[24-Nov-18 07:25 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland

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Gun laws in Switzerland
Firearms legislation in Switzerland  allows the free purchase of semi-automatic, but not fully automatic firearms by Swiss citizens and foreigners with permanent residence.
Permits for concealed carrying in public are issued sparingly. The acquisition of fully automatic weapo...
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[24-Nov-18 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile in america we have people who hunt for sport with military grade rifles and zero discipline who buy all the new upgrades unrestricted because thye thinkt hye are toys


[24-Nov-18 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt help that i;ve sat through my hvac class going fdull discussion on hoarding guns to keep the government form confiscating them


[24-Nov-18 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kinda fuckign scary hpow into guns americans are


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[24-Nov-18 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a c;lass about heatign technology they get into some scary ass political discussions


[24-Nov-18 07:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
turns out Switzerland also hates it when the EU tries to pass stricter gun laws lmao


[24-Nov-18 07:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they basically said: "hey, hands off our veterans' (disabled-auto) assault rifles!"


[24-Nov-18 07:29 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they are even considering exiting the Schengen area


[24-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland has a really weird setup with that


[24-Nov-18 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
maybe the second amendment should be redefined


[24-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[24-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
well it's obviously outdated


[24-Nov-18 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it basically does nothing


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
so why not redefine it?


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be better just to repeal it.


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It literally serves no function anymore


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
it provided for states to hav militias


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was a way to say "yeah we can organize a military"


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
but states don't do that anymore


[24-Nov-18 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
only the federal gov't does, and it has the power to without the 2nd amendment


[24-Nov-18 07:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So those people arguing whether the 2A lets them have guns freely or not are literally bald men arguing over a comb then?


[24-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah, they're gonna repeal something that's been in place since 1776, i seriously doubt that


[24-Nov-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're bald men arguing over a dodo bird cage that vaguely resembles head wax.


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no houses or politicians will work together long enough to repeal jack shit form the constitution


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
they'd just as likely repeal anything else from the bill of rights


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't gonna redefine it either, for the same reasons


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's incredibly stupid to believe they would.


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even passing a regular amendment these days is basically impossible.


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye do manage to do it thne they sure as fuck woudlnt jsut stop at the 2nd amendment


[24-Nov-18 07:34 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Swiss has a really peculiar gun law, I see


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but the vast majority of gun-related deaths there are people killing themselves


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) yeah


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
like


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
the first amendment


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm sure trump would love to take away the freedom of the press


[24-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
''FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS YOU DESERVE IT"


[24-Nov-18 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
repealing the first ammendment woudl also elt thme have free reign to establish shariah law ala christianity


[24-Nov-18 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh and that pesky presidential term limit


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The first amendment would be the second target for changing if conservatives really went thru with their idea of a congressional constitutional convention


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Hey that happened in China


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's an ammendment


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they removed the presidential term limit


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
the first would be either messing with elections or the 14th amendment


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so Xi Jinping can go annihilate dissidents as long as he lives


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
14th amendment makes discrimination illegal, and it has extremely broad implications


[24-Nov-18 07:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
China is not one place I'd like to live in lol


[24-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
i'm really sure they'd remove the 10th amendment, too


[24-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th amendment is why you can't outlaw gay marriage, why you can't do segregation, and may even be used soon to stop anti-homeless ordinances.


[24-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
"Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


[24-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[24-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Targeting that would destroy their cover


[24-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
cover?


[24-Nov-18 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why woudl they bother covering after removing everything int heir way?


[24-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yelling "state's rights!" as they ban abortions, segregate places, and go after the gays


[24-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 10th amendment is political cover to do whatever they want without the federal gov't stopping them


[24-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
ah


[24-Nov-18 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the voting rights ammendment


[24-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 10th amendment was the foundation for succession.


[24-Nov-18 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[24-Nov-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without that all elections are up to the senate


[24-Nov-18 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they woudl likely change the  age limit of those allowed to run for positions


[24-Nov-18 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure in which direction but likely not in a direction optimal for younger people


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
40 to be in House, 60 for Senate, probably


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
70 for President


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Young people are way less conservative right now


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
even the altright cedes a ton of ground on social matters


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
indeed


[24-Nov-18 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they woudl want people who were alive in the 50's-60's


[24-Nov-18 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who were alive and white in the 50s and 60s


[24-Nov-18 07:50 PM] Mikey#7286
even though the minimum age for president is 35 we've never had anyone younger than 43 or so


[24-Nov-18 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, our 72-year-old president has just decided to cut out half of the asylum process' protections https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/418077-mexico-agrees-to-trump-policy-forcing-migrants-to-wait-in-mexico-as

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Mexico’s incoming administration has agreed to support a new policy from the Trump White House that would require migrants seeking asylum to remain in Mexico as their requests are processed,
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[24-Nov-18 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that you hav to keep someone in while you process their claim is very important because it means you can't leave them where they're easy to kill in the event their claim is legitimate


[24-Nov-18 07:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I have something of a bad taste for old people


[24-Nov-18 07:53 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
since they live in an era where beliefs and ideas are vastly different


[24-Nov-18 07:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
from today


[24-Nov-18 07:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and some are alarmingly slow (or even resistive) when it comes to changing their views


[24-Nov-18 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being old in and of itself is okay (except for the mental degradation that removes impulse control), but being someone who supported segregation and discrimination in the 60s...


[24-Nov-18 07:55 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
You have no idea how much I hate the old people in my country that said the 1965 30th Sept Movement was PKI's fault


[24-Nov-18 07:55 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
yeah, sure, the US had no part to play *in a country ruled by someone who was increasingly anti-American*


[24-Nov-18 07:55 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
(Soekarno at that time)


[24-Nov-18 07:56 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Yeah sure the PKI wasn't the nicest of organizations (and that is understating it) but they kept painting the image as if Soeharto was the nicest guy around and brutally suppressing anyone who said otherwise


[24-Nov-18 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-county-narrows-reimbursement-policy-for-political-events/article_fc36a7f3-81cf-5b5c-805f-c998fa75d3a9.html
"Under the new policy, the organizers of large political campaign events that cost the county more than $1,000 will be sent a bill, even if there is no written agreement between the event organizer and the county. The policy also will apply to political campaign events in which the county has an agreement with the event organizer, if the costs are at least $1,000 more than the agreed-upon price due to unexpected increases in the scope of services."

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Missoula County narrows reimbursement policy for political events
Missoula County adopted a new policy Wednesday that formalizes its recent attempt to be reimbursed for security costs for large political events.
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[24-Nov-18 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just bill politicians for every tax payer funded event/vacation they go to?


[24-Nov-18 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously, frivolous tax spending needs harsher consequences


[24-Nov-18 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you shouldn't be allowed to use $40 of tax payer money to pay for a hotel breakfast and then $300 tax payer dollars on a roudn of golf


[24-Nov-18 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
ye


[24-Nov-18 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shoudl be required to come out of their own fuckign pockets


[24-Nov-18 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah I mean


[24-Nov-18 08:12 PM] Mikey#7286
trump is rich so like


[24-Nov-18 08:12 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[24-Nov-18 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt evne jsut trump


[24-Nov-18 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is like %60 of congress and hosue politicians


[24-Nov-18 08:12 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[24-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
like i'm pretty sure they all have a lot of money themselves


[24-Nov-18 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chris christy used tax payer money to fly his son to a school baseball game via helicopter


[24-Nov-18 08:14 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
misuse of tax money? Celestia is probably the only politician who never does this xD


[24-Nov-18 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was a while back but still


[24-Nov-18 08:14 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
she, her sister and her adoptive niece


[24-Nov-18 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but they're active royalty and not a democratic republic


[24-Nov-18 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye probably get free shit everywhere they go


[24-Nov-18 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Furrepublican

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[24-Nov-18 08:17 PM] Mikey#7286
ben shapirowo


[24-Nov-18 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump daddy


[24-Nov-18 08:18 PM] Nile#1441
Celestia is a leader I can trust


[24-Nov-18 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
daddy donald


[24-Nov-18 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
equestria is lucky their royalty isn't massive tools


[24-Nov-18 08:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Don't we wish our leaders were more like the Equestrians'?


[24-Nov-18 08:21 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well apart from their atrocious combat record which won't be here since this is real life and there's no plot mandated incompetence lol


[24-Nov-18 08:21 PM] Nile#1441
oof


[24-Nov-18 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/21/john-roberts-trump-statement/2080266002/

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"We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges," Roberts said. "What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges."
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[24-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President shouldn't be able to criticize judiciary publicly


[24-Nov-18 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he shouldn't but he is


[24-Nov-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the judges appointed by trump are disturbed by this move by trump


[24-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also @Nebbie you got it backwards, see eggshell skull rule


[24-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow, this is such a textbook example of it I'm amazed that it was found to be self defense


[24-Nov-18 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the case of the dead punched mail guy?


[24-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[24-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You take people as you find them and not knowing how weak they are is not a defense


[24-Nov-18 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that soudns liek it shoudl have been at the least an assault charge


[24-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that only applies to tort law


[24-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's some applications in criminal


[24-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only when the action itself is illegal


[24-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
this was in self-defense


[24-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
if it weren't, the guy could be sued out the ass for the death here


[24-Nov-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
As it stands, he isn't liable at all.


[24-Nov-18 09:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Isnt this what someone said about a person not being liable for unintended consequences?


[24-Nov-18 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah self defense makes it ok


[24-Nov-18 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My other favorite concept is when you only commit manslaughter but it's so bad and reckless you should be called a murderer


[24-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unforeseeable, not unintended


[24-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're generally not liable for unforeseeable consequences, but you are specifically liable for them in cases of personal injury when the action you committed was negligent or intentionally harmful.


[24-Nov-18 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how is punching a guy not intentionally harmful?


[24-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it was in self-defense.


[24-Nov-18 09:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So if you punch someone in the stomach in self-defense and accidentally sent him off a high place?


[24-Nov-18 09:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What would it be then?


[24-Nov-18 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think in that case it's foreseeable and you could be sued for damages.


[24-Nov-18 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also speaking of judges


[24-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the unforeseeable stuff is only for things that are actually illegal/negligent/etc. to begin with.


[24-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The American people demand Justice Kavanaugh answer the greatest question regarding his ability to be on the bench:


[24-Nov-18 09:40 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So what would be the example of unforeseeable consequences to punching someone in self defense be?


[24-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Has_ he boofed yet?


[24-Nov-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, the guy died from a self-defense punch.


[24-Nov-18 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the one who punched in self-defense is not on the hook, criminally or civilly.


[24-Nov-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, according to him, that's farting, @Itsthinking


[24-Nov-18 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[24-Nov-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That reminded me combined with this last discussion


[24-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A woman who is being raped/sexually assaulted has a better chance of being believed that it was necessary to kill the guy than say she was raped without doing so


[24-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's better to be a murderer than a rape victim.


[24-Nov-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that's fucking insane.


[24-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh self-defense law is whakk


[24-Nov-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea you can be found totally justified shooting someone dead because you get nervous when you see little blakk boys


[24-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it gets applied to the police too


[24-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most gun laws are rooted in racism


[24-Nov-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute recipe for tragedy.


[24-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not for the people who make the laws


[24-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
People will change their tune on stand your ground laws when blakk guys shoot white guys that got too close to their personal space


[24-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and get off scott-free.


[24-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like banning abortion: either women don't try and you get a child, or a "slut" dies from a coat hanger abortion/becomes infertile


[24-Nov-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you hate women, no downside


[24-Nov-18 09:52 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Nov-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking ultra capitalism.


[24-Nov-18 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
AMERICA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸  🇺🇸  🇺🇸


[24-Nov-18 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
nytimes front page is climate apocalypse articles


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/us/ammunition-lead-bullets-condors.html

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Poisoned Wildlife and Tainted Meat: Why Hunters Are Moving Away Fr...
Many hunters are ditching traditional ammunition amid mounting evidence that it harms scavengers and pollutes the food people eat.
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[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
>Obama administration bans lead bullets because of this exact problem


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
>Trump administration immediately repeals bans


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Turns out lead is toxic 🤔


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Who would have thought 🤔  🤔  🤔  🤔


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] Mikey#7286
wew


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Real men hunt by hurling spears


[24-Nov-18 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/business/marijuana-legalization-police-dogs.html

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By STACY COWLEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/business/marijuana-legalization-police-dogs.html
Marijuana Legalization Threatens These Dogs’ Collars
Drug-sniffing dogs that are trained to detect marijuana are complicating searches where pot has been legalized. That’s forcing some into early retirement.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/21/business/00DRUGDOGS-lede/00DRUGDOGS-lede-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
the trump admin has no sense of what's safe


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no they get to retire as comfortable normal dogs


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the horror


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
i mean they already don't care about the environment anyway so yeah


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trump admin cares about 2 things


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money


[24-Nov-18 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and things that make them moeny


[24-Nov-18 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
trump probably thinks being president makes him money


[24-Nov-18 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
except it doesn't


[24-Nov-18 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can you believe it: a world in which having a job is the only expected and respected signifier of a person's value and meaning has been extended to dogs, which are being cycled through the media apparatus when it's revealed they get to be lazy free loaders and retired to someone's house to live out their days playing fetch.


[24-Nov-18 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was an article I read, or whose headlines I saw about how police departments are threatening to put down their drug sniffing dogs if pot becomes legal.


[24-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“I just did a dog for a department in Texas that asked me not to put marijuana on her,” said Ron Cloward, the owner of Top Dog Police K-9 Training and Consulting in Modesto, Calif. “They had the feeling there could be some changes coming there, and they wanted to plan ahead.”'


[24-Nov-18 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
nice


[24-Nov-18 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[24-Nov-18 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck kind of psychopaths are runnign these stations


[24-Nov-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we can;t find drugs with these dogs, so isntead of giving thme to loving homes we're jsut gonna murder their cute little faces"


[24-Nov-18 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck police


[24-Nov-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyone who threatens this should be iimmediatly terminated as anm officer


[24-Nov-18 10:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2018/05/08/illinois-police-keep-pot-illegal-or-well-kill-the-dog/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.03d49a6398ef


[24-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/771903/illinois-police-claim-marijuana-legalized-theyll-have-kill-police-dogs

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https://theweek.com/speedreads/771903/illinois-police-claim-marijuana-legalized-theyll-have-kill-police-dogs
Illinois police claim if marijuana is legalized, they'll have to k...
The training director of a police K-9 academy in Illinois claims that if the state legalizes recreational marijuana, it will likely have to euthanize "a number" of its pot-sniffing dogs, The Pantagraph reports.
There are approximately 275 trained narcotic K-9s in Illinois, wi...
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/GettyImages-71623054.jpg?itok=g3vGo3Bc


[24-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
non paywalled source


[24-Nov-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fucking christ


[24-Nov-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jarvis fuck melons crump bagels


[24-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic, hold hostage man's best friend to keep out the leaf those dirty blakks smoke


[24-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/magazine/palm-oil-borneo-climate-catastrophe.html

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By ABRAHM LUSTGARTEN
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/magazine/palm-oil-borneo-climate-catastrophe.html
Palm Oil Was Supposed to Help Save the Planet. Instead It Unleashe...
A decade ago, the U.S. mandated the use of vegetable oil in biofuels, leading to industrial-scale deforestation — and a huge spike in carbon emissions.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/25/magazine/25mag-palmoil-slideshow-slide-Z031/25mag-palmoil-slideshow-slide-Z031-facebookJumbo.png


[24-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr


[24-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
biofuels are way worse for CO2 emissions than gasoline


[24-Nov-18 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
unless over very, very long timescales


[24-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
because you need to chop and burn a shitton of forest and completely destroy the environment doing so to grow them


[24-Nov-18 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
illinois does not represent the majority of how cops act


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Majority no, but far, far too many.


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Mikey#7286
i don't think even that


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/authority-man_orig.jpg

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https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/authority-man_orig.jpg


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, Bush mandated an amount of biofuels that would require more land area to grow than the whole US


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Not many cops are good


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of cops in the US are bad


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Mikey#7286
yes there are bad cops like in illinois, but most cops are doing their jobs


[24-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Mikey#7286
how?


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Mikey#7286
because the media says so?


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, because there are many, many instances of cops being bad


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
there are cases where cops tased elderly people for no reason


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
so many, in fact, that you might start to suspect there's some sort of


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
you know


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Mikey#7286
i've said before that the media only ever reports on bad cops


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
_systemic fucking problem_


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
cases where cops pulled over people for being blakk


[24-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
cases where entire police dept.s had a "stop and frisk" policy found to discriminate


[24-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Mikey#7286
it's far easier to look at a small group of cops that do something bad and go "see, look, most cops are like this!"


[24-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
many cases where prostitutes had having condoms used as evidence against them, making it far harder to do safe sex, without reducing sex work


[24-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Mikey#7286
i don't think the problem is as widespread as you think


[24-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
cases where cops lied in their official reports to play up someone being bad


[24-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
cases where cops shot someone after giving conflicting information


[24-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
cases where cops shot people's dogs while on completely unrelated calls


[24-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Mikey#7286
how do you know the majority of cops do that kind of shit, though?


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
These cases came from far and wide and are incredibly numerous


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
especially dog shootings


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Mikey#7286
numerous


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
dog shootings happen in the many thousands per year


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Mikey#7286
that's not really specific


[24-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a very clear overall pattern.


[24-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be unreasonable to assume that there is not at least a very large amount of bad cops


[24-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
While said amount probably isn't an outright majority, it is probably pretty large.


[24-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Mikey#7286
who and what conducts theses cases?


[24-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean?


[24-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Mikey#7286
like, you said these cases are far and wide


[24-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Mikey#7286
from news outlets? investigations?


[24-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
News outlets primarily.


[24-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Investigators rarely prosecute police and they almost never secure convictions against them


[24-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
even in cases where the raw video shows a police officer shoot someone for no reason then plant their own gun on them.


[24-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't some bias of the "mainstream media".


[24-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a pretty clear pattern going on with the incidents themselves, regardless of what spin outlets put on it.


[24-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Mikey#7286
i've never seen any mainstream news outlet report on something good some cop did


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's because you don't need to, it's assumed


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in most western countries


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
like the UK


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
the cops rarely do something bad


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
police almost never shoot people over there


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but here, it's *routine*


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are we to assume that secretly, UK cops are just as bad?


[24-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Mikey#7286
i feel like the perception of people assume most cops are bad because they see it on the news


[24-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying there's a perception that Trump is a bad person because they see it on the news.


[24-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The news is the damn main window into the world


[24-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't special-case it so that this one thing is totally not necessarily happening guys, you only saw it on the news


[24-Nov-18 10:25 PM] Mikey#7286
yes, but some outlets do have political bias


[24-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
some


[24-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Mikey#7286
CNN and Fox for example


[24-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav seen this shit reported everywher from Fox to local news to in ruffly the same manner


[24-Nov-18 10:26 PM] Mikey#7286
CNN is left winged biased, Fox is right winged


[24-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav not once seen an article talking about the police saying that the problem isn't very widespread, regardless of which direction the news outlet is biased


[24-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
If this were an effect of bias, we would presumably see a scattering between outlets with opposite ideological biases


[24-Nov-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Fox News on TV is more biased than CNN on TV is about as biased as Fox News online is more biased than CNN online


[24-Nov-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The two are not directly comparable, Fox News is on par with Huffpo


[24-Nov-18 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and as should be obvious, TV is waaaaaaay more biased and unreliable, a key factor in why it shouldn't be used for news)


[24-Nov-18 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/2WDZTVg

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The American healthcare system, not rich enough to live...
https://i.imgur.com/2WDZTVg.jpg


[24-Nov-18 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
"you're poor, fuck you, go die"


[24-Nov-18 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah this is why i fear ever breaking a limb much less a finger


[24-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
we need a better healthcare system


[24-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
One time I went for treatment for pink eye and it costed me almost $300


[24-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
universal healthcare needs to be a thing


[24-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
for 15 minutes of a doctor chekking out my eye and some eye drops


[24-Nov-18 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have any form of coverage right now


[24-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Mikey#7286
i do but it's not cheap


[24-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
If I was in a serious accident, my life savings would be needed to pay for the bill, and would likely not cover it.


[24-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
My entire family would go bankrupt.


[24-Nov-18 10:41 PM] DevField#5162
Over here in Ireland, we have medical cards, if you're under a certain rate of income. Doctors visits are free, and prescription medication is quite cheap


[24-Nov-18 10:42 PM] DevField#5162
But only if you have the medical card


[24-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
fuck


[24-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
like


[24-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
here, if you're shot, but not seriously injured


[24-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
i'm pretty sure a bullet wound will bankrupt you


[24-Nov-18 10:43 PM] DevField#5162
America, is it?


[24-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
even if it's just in your arm or leg


[24-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[24-Nov-18 10:43 PM] DevField#5162
Yeah... I've heard about how bad the health system is over there..


[24-Nov-18 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah if you're poor you're fucked


[24-Nov-18 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl semi like to move to europe, america is becoming less worth it to live in


[24-Nov-18 10:44 PM] DevField#5162
Yeet


[24-Nov-18 10:44 PM] DevField#5162
I don't think europe will be much better for long


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
and i'm pretty sure trump wants to get rid of medicare and medicaid


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump? more liek every single republican


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconel is litterally announcing his plans to the word in choir form


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
who?


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe will be fine if it gets over shit like AfD


[24-Nov-18 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kentucky turtle


[24-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Mikey#7286
oh


[24-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch McConnel is the Senate Majority Leader


[24-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
he is an elderly Republican who generally follows whatever Trump says


[24-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is the first one to lie saying that <insert Trump bill> will help <insert people it actually hurts the most>


[24-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
wew


[24-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was real fun when they wanted to repeal Obamacare in favor of some slapped-together thing that would basically not keep any of the protections.


[24-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
and they can't even repeal obamacare 😂


[24-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least the tax bill they managed to pass wasn't actively harmful


[24-Nov-18 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, it's a huge waste of money that only benefits the rich


[24-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it has tiny tiny benefits for some of the middle class


[24-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it doesn't make taxes *worse* for the poor


[24-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just keeps them bad


[24-Nov-18 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and all those tiny tiny benefits have expiration dates


[24-Nov-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well of course


[24-Nov-18 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fun


[24-Nov-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The corporate tax cut has an expiration date too, but you know it'll get permanently extended.


[24-Nov-18 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[24-Nov-18 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i shoudl see about applying for dual citizenship to antoher coutnry


[24-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
What US tax law needs right now is credits replacing all deductions


[24-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
deductions are inherently regressive.


[24-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
But rich people love regressive taxes


[24-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
won't happen until Dems hav control of both chambers


[24-Nov-18 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/trump-pushes-senate-to-pass-stalled-criminal-justice-reform-bill.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/trump-pushes-senate-to-pass-stalled-criminal-justice-reform-bill.html
Trump pushes McConnell to pass bipartisan criminal justice reform ...
But while Trump tweeted that the proposal has "a true shot at major bipartisan support" in the Senate, it's unclear whether the bill will make it to a vote this year.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/01/22/104959371-GettyImages-866345914.1910x1000.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46330380

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46330380
European Union set to agree Brexit deal
Theresa May meets top EU officials in Brussels as Spain withdraws its objections to the deal.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/13D69/production/_104475218_hi050789951.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Mikey#7286
huh


[24-Nov-18 11:24 PM] Mikey#7286
i don't feel like registering an account just to read that


[24-Nov-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oops


[24-Nov-18 11:25 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Nov-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt realize it had a paywall


[24-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Mikey#7286
no prob


[24-Nov-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46320368

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46320368
What happens if MPs reject Brexit deal?
Five possible scenarios if Theresa May can't get her EU withdrawal deal through Parliament.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/12026/production/_104466737_mediaitem104466735.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/nr3n0jldwa021.jpg

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https://i.redd.it/nr3n0jldwa021.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ricochet_en/status/1066027479897464834?s=21

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Ricochet (@ricochet_en)
https://twitter.com/ricochet_en/status/1066027479897464834?s=21
Six Liberal MPs offices currently occupied by postal workers. Three in Toronto, one in Ottawa, one in Vancouver, one in Kelowna. They're demanding the government respect the bargaining process and withdraw back-to-work legislation. #cdnpoli https://t.co/AHXb5ilAl9
Twitter


[24-Nov-18 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-post-back-to-work-bill-passed-commons-1.4919412

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-post-back-to-work-bill-passed-commons-1.4919412
Canada Post back-to-work bill passes during late night Commons sit...
Legislation ordering postal workers back to work was passed in the House of Commons during a special session that dragged on into the wee hours of Saturday morning.
https://i.cbc.ca/1.4919413.1543040062!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/canada-post-charity-20181123.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Liberal MPs blocked. Hell ya. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
Phil Ochs -- Love me, I'm a liberal
İ cried when they shot Medgar Evers Tears ran down my spine I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy As though I'd lost a father of mine But Malcolm X got what was...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u52Oz-54VYw/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Nov-18 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://globalnews.ca/news/4695159/canada-post-back-to-work-legislation-senate-debate/

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Senate debates Canada Post back-to-work legislation
The Senate is sitting Saturday to debate the back-to-work bill that passed the House of Commons.
https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/canada-post-parliament-hill.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=480&crop=1


[25-Nov-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TerryRossio/status/1065870632221462529

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Terry Rossio (@TerryRossio)
https://twitter.com/TerryRossio/status/1065870632221462529
@erikburnham @TheJulieBenson My heart goes out to all the parents of vaccine damaged children, who have to not only endure the sadness of their loss, but also the vitriol of ill-informed and insensitive people (such as those here). Anti-Vax is equivalent to calling someone...
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[25-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[25-Nov-18 12:53 AM] Mikey#7286
wait, what?


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't understand


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is saying that


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
for people who are anti-vax


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
calling them anti-vax is a slur


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
it's not though


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and horrible to do after they've already lost a child [because of their own horrible actions]


[25-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Yuri#4154
Who dat


[25-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
anti-vaxxers are terrible people


[25-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a Hollywood writer


[25-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aladdin, Pirates of the Carribbean


[25-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Yuri#4154
That right there is proof that you don't need to be smart to be famous


[25-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wrote Shrek


[25-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Yuri#4154
:Caddy:


[25-Nov-18 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:Luna:


[25-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, partially, but basically that is the go-to guy


[25-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you want to do writing for an animated movie


[25-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of movies that did very well had him on the writing team


[25-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And apparently, he's crazy.


[25-Nov-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shrek drove him over to insanity


[25-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah it was definitely the Jonny Quest reboot


[25-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Yuri#4154
The responses to his tweet are amazing


[25-Nov-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a jonny quest reboot?


[25-Nov-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Upcoming, yes.


[25-Nov-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was too unfathomable for his feeble human mind


[25-Nov-18 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it drove him to madness


[25-Nov-18 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll go further and call any parent who doesn vaccinate their kids a shitty parent


[25-Nov-18 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean a potential murderous parent


[25-Nov-18 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[25-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even think religion should be an excuse but it sadly is


[25-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Personal science stances absolutely are not


[25-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So instead of antivax I'll just say "future murderer" because of this guy.


[25-Nov-18 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't get to have a "personal science stance" unless you're actively involved in research and then it's called a scientific theory and it better have some evidence


[25-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh driving your kids into a lake or strangling them probably hurts them less than dying of measles or polio


[25-Nov-18 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[25-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Nile#1441
Science is gay


[25-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
"i don't need to vaccinate my baby" *kid dies at 6 to measles*


[25-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
"i still have another kid"


[25-Nov-18 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[25-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
science is good


[25-Nov-18 01:34 AM] Nile#1441
g~~ood~~ay


[25-Nov-18 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
gday


[25-Nov-18 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
gay with the d rammed into it


[25-Nov-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gooday is gay with an ood


[25-Nov-18 01:37 AM] Mikey#7286
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


[25-Nov-18 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Nov-18 01:38 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[25-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ood


[25-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oof


[25-Nov-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That whole sequence of Doctor Who eps was basically MEGA SPACE CAPITALISM


[25-Nov-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho the more recent one with the zombie spacesuits really, really did it more aggressively.


[25-Nov-18 02:34 AM] moonatik#3676
lol

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[25-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Litrojia#0612
This one doesn't get old


[25-Nov-18 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[25-Nov-18 02:36 AM] Mikey#7286
@moonatik you don't like May do you?


[25-Nov-18 02:39 AM] Yuri#4154
Does anyone?


[25-Nov-18 02:40 AM] moonatik#3676
not really


[25-Nov-18 02:40 AM] moonatik#3676

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[25-Nov-18 02:40 AM] moonatik#3676
i do enjoy making fun of her though


[25-Nov-18 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[25-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
do you guys support brexit?


[25-Nov-18 02:41 AM] moonatik#3676
nah


[25-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
personally, i think the idea of the EU isn't really good


[25-Nov-18 02:41 AM] Yuri#4154
How much do I need to drink to forget that Brexit is a thing?


[25-Nov-18 02:41 AM] moonatik#3676
EU is pretty shit, but leaving is absolutely batshit


[25-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
megagovernments would probably lead to other places wanting to do one


[25-Nov-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
i could see the US merging with other governments if it really wanted to


[25-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Mikey#7286
no one government should hold power over several countries


[25-Nov-18 02:43 AM] Yuri#4154
Even though I don't support everything the EU does (Article 13...), it does have some really good ideas


[25-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Mikey#7286
not to mention stuff like Article 13 meaning every country has to adhere to it


[25-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[25-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[25-Nov-18 02:44 AM] moonatik#3676
that's not how article 13 really works tho


[25-Nov-18 02:44 AM] Mikey#7286
?


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] Yuri#4154
Well, if the EU wasn't a thing I'd probably still be in Butt-Fuck-Nowhere, Poland


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] moonatik#3676
IIRC it's part of a directive


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] Yuri#4154
And probably wouldn't be here now


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] Litrojia#0612
I' m probably at least a bit ignorant on the EU
but from what I get out of it, the EU's nice for trade and defense
and no so much for local/national sovereignty
I really don't mind either way


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] moonatik#3676
which means that individual governments choose how they want to implement it, if at all


[25-Nov-18 02:45 AM] Mikey#7286
@Yuri what do you mean?


[25-Nov-18 02:46 AM] Yuri#4154
If it wasn't so easy to move between countries in the EU I probably wouldn't have left Polan


[25-Nov-18 02:46 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean what do you mean you wouldn't be here?


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Here as in Derpi and this Discord


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Yuri#4154
I probably would spend my days farming potatoes


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
that doesn't sound fun at all


[25-Nov-18 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
does poland not have internet or something?


[25-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Mikey#7286
or like, is it a poor country?


[25-Nov-18 02:48 AM] Yuri#4154
I lived in the middle of nowhere, so our internet could barely be called that


[25-Nov-18 02:49 AM] Mikey#7286
ah geez


[25-Nov-18 02:51 AM] moonatik#3676
poland has experienced a shitload of economic help and growth due to the EU


[25-Nov-18 02:52 AM] moonatik#3676
so to say that you would've been stuck on a potato farm without the EU is an understatement


[25-Nov-18 02:52 AM] moonatik#3676
EU's far from perfect, obviously, waaay to bureaucratic and national sovereignty concerns are mostly legit


[25-Nov-18 02:53 AM] moonatik#3676
but to leave would be disastrous politically, financially, and diplomatically


[25-Nov-18 02:53 AM] moonatik#3676
as made evident by our situation


[25-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still HAV to implement it, as it's a directive


[25-Nov-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just choose the details


[25-Nov-18 02:55 AM] moonatik#3676
i never thought "only our governments can save us now" would be on the headline of a political campagin


[25-Nov-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/418070-undocumented-man-arrested-after-leaving-sanctuary-church

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Undocumented man arrested after leaving church to meet with immigr...
An undocumented man was arrested in North Carolina on Friday after leaving a church to meet for a scheduled appointment with immigration officials,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/borderwall_102618getty.jpg


[25-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So guy came to do paperwork to potentially get legal status, immediately arrested because it was a fukking trap.


[25-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Due process is not meant to be used as bait.


[25-Nov-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a blatant erosion of the rule of law.


[25-Nov-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just completely ejecting any ways that people can even try to become legal.


[25-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
it says he's a "convicted criminal"


[25-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
convicted of what?


[25-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
of being an illegal immigrant


[25-Nov-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the entire point


[25-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The logic is


[25-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
if someone immigrated illegally, they committed a crime doing so


[25-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore they cannot be allowed to stay because they're a criminal


[25-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they can't stay...because they came.


[25-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way for Trump to use word trikkery to say that nothing has changed since what Obama did.


[25-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, an update to a story I think I linked in IRC before this Discord came to be https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641267882/i-wouldn-t-move-back-deported-irish-man-creates-a-life-in-his-new-home

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'I Wouldn't Move Back': Deported Irish Man Creates A Life In His N...
Dylan O'Riordan, who was living in Boston illegally before being picked up by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. His parents brought him to the U.S. when he was 12.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/08/23/undefined_wide-c7c55f5419944955067c50bc4bbc1c7b1611ff1b.jpg?s=1400


[25-Nov-18 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, so some Irish immigrants took their 12-year-old kid with them and he grew up his entire teenage years in America, but technically he didn't hav a green card etc.


[25-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So ICE came down on him...after he'd knokked up his fiance


[25-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so he was deported to Ireland, separated from his wife and kid


[25-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, he's doing well


[25-Nov-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but of course, said wife and kid now need to move to Ireland, cause the US won't let him come bakk, and he has realized how shitty the US is compared to Ireland and wouldn't go even if they let him.


[25-Nov-18 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/viral-facebook-video-shows-white-arizona-womans-racist-rant-you-will-be-wiped-1228534

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Watch: White woman’s racist rant caught on camera—“You will ...
The incident in an Arizona restaurant was filmed and posted to Facebook by a Puerto Rican woman who asked if she could sit at a nearby table.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/11/23/airzona-white-racist-woman.jpg


[25-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
“Yes, that would be me. I'd prefer the whole freaking nation to be white. How about that?” the white woman replies as she reads a letter at the table.


[25-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
Molina says: “You know that's never going to happen, right?”


[25-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
To which the white woman replies: “Oh, it's going to happen. You will be wiped out. Trust me.”


[25-Nov-18 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can i just move to ireland?


[25-Nov-18 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe scotland, or finland


[25-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Nile#1441
Why


[25-Nov-18 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because america is terrible and if i break a limb here i'm fucked for life


[25-Nov-18 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can;t find a job


[25-Nov-18 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cant afford a house


[25-Nov-18 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everythingis too expensive


[25-Nov-18 04:10 AM] Nile#1441
Sucks for you m8


[25-Nov-18 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed


[25-Nov-18 04:10 AM] Nile#1441
As long as you do it legally you can go wherever


[25-Nov-18 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, i'm not about to smuggle myself into europe


[25-Nov-18 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be goign through legal channels


[25-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Nile#1441
Good


[25-Nov-18 04:11 AM] moonatik#3676
:bernie:


[25-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Nile#1441
:trixdisgust:


[25-Nov-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hi


[25-Nov-18 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the immigration fee for ireland is only $200 that's not bad


[25-Nov-18 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably takes quite a bit of paperwork though


[25-Nov-18 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm still exploring various options of country too but given the shape of america, i'd like to have options


[25-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nile#1441
As long as it's not Canada, the last thing we need is more "America refugees"


[25-Nov-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i'd rather mvoe to a different continent


[25-Nov-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get as far away form american politics as possible


[25-Nov-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILn85WKo0Qk

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America is on Easy Mode
America is on Easy Mode. All media is Creative Commons, public domain, my own work or fair use. "Mister Exposition" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ILn85WKo0Qk/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Nov-18 05:32 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
IIRC the whole reason Trump won was because he took advantage of the terrorist attacks in 2016 by making some anti-immigrant speeches


[25-Nov-18 05:32 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
i.e he said what Americans wanted to hear right when they wanted to hear it the most


[25-Nov-18 05:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
see, the US has always been quite touchy when it came to foreigners


[25-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
that video has nothing to do with the election, just pointing out that the US has all the geographical advantages possible


[25-Nov-18 06:17 AM] Nile#1441
brain4breakfast is a good channel


[25-Nov-18 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell a passport costs $145


[25-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
yeah they're pretty expensive


[25-Nov-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because they have to check you out and make sure you're not a terrorist


[25-Nov-18 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They may literally ask you if you're a terrorist


[25-Nov-18 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the gov't is full of retards


[25-Nov-18 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump also lost the popular vote, @PzZ1-TD1, but because of *where* the votes he got were, he won overall because our system is stupid.


[25-Nov-18 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
the idea is that the states get as much say in the election as the people


[25-Nov-18 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[25-Nov-18 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is each state puts the weight of all it's people behind one candidate, and there's a bit of moderating the extremes


[25-Nov-18 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea being that DELAWARE WANTS THIS GUY etc. and then all the various state delegates sit down to figure out who wins


[25-Nov-18 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Great idea for having a hierarchical election when it was the 18th century and news traveled as fast as a man sent to deliver it and the gov't is a loose collection of mini-nations


[25-Nov-18 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
terrible, terrible idea when you're a unified country in the modern age and this shit can be easily exploited.


[25-Nov-18 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZMQ6R9OzDs

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Why NOBODY Likes JK Rowling
J.K. Rowling went from being a respected figure in society to one that nobody takes seriously. Here's how it all happened. Twitter: https://twitter.com/eazyo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OZMQ6R9OzDs/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Nov-18 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
"Harry Potter and the Inclusivity I Never Wrote About But Still Want Credit for Anyway"


[25-Nov-18 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
also apparently there was actually a line in the harry potter book showing that hermione was white


[25-Nov-18 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
• Buckbeak snapped his beak and walked a little faster. Hermione’s white face was sticking out from behind a tree.


[25-Nov-18 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and Trump also had going for him that he was up against another unlikable rich bitch candidate, except she also had a superficial scandal from having a private email server (after rules said not to no longer do that) and at one point nearly fainted and *was a woman*


[25-Nov-18 07:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so it was some sort of evil vs evil then?


[25-Nov-18 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women are seen as more liberal than they actually are, as politicians, so it was pretty easy combined with her tendency to bend to the political winds to cast her as extreme.


[25-Nov-18 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was kind of a perfect storm


[25-Nov-18 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary ultimately is your average political shill, but things came together to cast her as the Wicked Witch of the West


[25-Nov-18 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile had some scandals, but nothing huge, and all very spread out


[25-Nov-18 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they didn't stand out very much from his normally crazy and excessive behavior


[25-Nov-18 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
the Wicked Wiccan of the West


[25-Nov-18 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and Trump scooped up dissatisfied voters a lot because he lied that he'd be against corruption, and many such voters don't even care because they *just* want to see change in terms of which party's in power


[25-Nov-18 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
On top of that, there were racist voters who realized the blakk guy they voted for, shokker, actually would try to move things toward racial quality including, GASP, not having blakk CRIMINALSSSZZZ in jail for their entire lives for being caught with some crakk once and got mad and voted for the other party.


[25-Nov-18 07:52 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
wait, Obama?


[25-Nov-18 07:52 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
he did that?


[25-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He gave out a ton of pardons/commutations to non-violent drug offenders


[25-Nov-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, he got a lot of blakks out of jail who were in it mostly for things like using the wrong race's preferred drug.


[25-Nov-18 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That incenses white nationalists


[25-Nov-18 08:09 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I guess the whole fight against racism started by people like Martin Luther King amounted to nothing it seems


[25-Nov-18 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's just that at the time, the gov't got behind it in the interest of making people obey the fukking gov't


[25-Nov-18 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS said segregation violates the 14th amendment because even if it were truly equal, it leads to children getting worse grades etc. because they *know* the point of separation is that they're considered inferior.


[25-Nov-18 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So The South said they don't hav to follow SCOTUS rulings


[25-Nov-18 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not just not follow SCOTUS rulings.


[25-Nov-18 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So ultimately, Lyndon Johnson had to order troops into The South to ensure segregation ended


[25-Nov-18 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This caused a counterreaction where Berry Goldwater ran on a campaign of "states' rights" (to keep the blakks out of the schools) and he even carried Lyndon's home state in the election


[25-Nov-18 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was the first highly conservative Republican to get real interest, as at the time, many Democrats were conservative and Republicans were often liberal


[25-Nov-18 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, for a while, the racists were nice and kept in chekk by the gov't and they knew breaking into politics while being openly hostile to the gov't would be...difficult.


[25-Nov-18 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans had Nixon as a staunch conservative, but the trouble was he just didn't want to go against popular stuff


[25-Nov-18 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he continued many of the good things Lyndon Johnson did


[25-Nov-18 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And after he showed his true colors, he was forced out


[25-Nov-18 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan was really where Republicans came together truly as conservatives believing in ultracapitalism, but even all he could really do on supporting racism was say that blakk kids shouldn't be bussed to white schools.


[25-Nov-18 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans just kinda stalled with the Bushes...


[25-Nov-18 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but eventually


[25-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
those racist conservatives did realize they had a chance


[25-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and supported Trump


[25-Nov-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They actually had a candidate before who was on their side, in the Clinton election, but he was rejected by the Republicans and so not really relevant.


[25-Nov-18 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans however during the Bush years progressively degraded political norms and went for extrems to gain support...so Trump wasn't rejected.


[25-Nov-18 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism will die mostly when the people Trump grew up with die.


[25-Nov-18 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't US politics fun, @PzZ1-TD1?


[25-Nov-18 08:31 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Its more interesting than Indonesia politics


[25-Nov-18 08:31 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Thats for sure


[25-Nov-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ross Perot was the pre-Trump Trump btw


[25-Nov-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
he got nearly 20% of the vote in 1992


[25-Nov-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He made his own political party based around his racist conservatism, and ran under it in 1996


[25-Nov-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
However


[25-Nov-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In his debate with Al Gore on NAFTA, he flubbed it


[25-Nov-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and nobody wanted to invite him to the *actual* debates come election time


[25-Nov-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was pretty clear he either was an idiot or just a racist looking for reasons why trading with BROWN PEOPLE is bad


[25-Nov-18 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the 2000s, he just joined the Republicans, since they had become more racist.


[25-Nov-18 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Perot isn't as racist as Trump...


[25-Nov-18 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perot also supports gay rights cause he's not a religious nut.


[25-Nov-18 08:38 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Trump's racism would be disgusting to Perot?


[25-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know about disgusting, but Perot generally likes to distance himself from the overt stuff.


[25-Nov-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He mainly wants to keep blakks down by providing no economic support for them.


[25-Nov-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile is a lot less indirect about things and will just plain hav gov't officials harass minorities.


[25-Nov-18 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perot is the subtle type, he was in country clubs that excluded Jews and blakks


[25-Nov-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and when told that would be an...issue, quit them ahead of time, before the media could get into a frenzy)


[25-Nov-18 09:53 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Indonesian politics.... largely the same as the US


[25-Nov-18 09:53 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Except one side is mostly religious fundamentalists who hate secular/LGBT/other religions


[25-Nov-18 09:53 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and the other side can be exceedingly naive at times


[25-Nov-18 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The naivete is different, sure, but "religious fundamentalists who hate secular/LGBT/other religions" is half the current Republican party


[25-Nov-18 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other half being racism and capitalism


[25-Nov-18 09:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Now one of the presidential candidates has made a grand total of 3 insults in the last 3 months


[25-Nov-18 09:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
first he insulted the news reporters


[25-Nov-18 09:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
then Boyolali  people


[25-Nov-18 09:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
then lately he insulted online ride-hailing bike drivers (we call them GO-JEK/Grab in this area)


[25-Nov-18 09:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
he also once thought *Ghost Fleet* (a sci-fi novel with a backdrop of Anglo-American War) was a *scientific study* of all things, claiming that the book said Indonesia will cease to exist by 2030


[25-Nov-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[25-Nov-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
About what I expect from the region, tho


[25-Nov-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
strongmen using populism, with about average intelligence in an area where people grow up without sufficient food and thus aren't terribly smart.


[25-Nov-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte, Trump, and a few others are only really unprecdented because of the timing of their rises to power.


[25-Nov-18 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for Trump being a *US* leader.


[25-Nov-18 10:00 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Duterte's war on drugs I can sympathise with


[25-Nov-18 10:00 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
no, not kidding, sometimes you do need to punch through with some people


[25-Nov-18 10:01 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
l think the Catholic Church is naive to think that druglords can be brought down non-lethally


[25-Nov-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte isn't trying to stop drugs


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't it proven he's dealing drugs as much as the dedicated drug dealers


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
His political career started by inspiring fear to get people to support him by killing people extrajudicially


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
or was that just his son


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was his son


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
not to mention his family's ties to Marcos....


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte's tactics in no way reduce drug addiction or drug dealing


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you don't just kill every single person who has touched drugs, it's not feasible


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same as with war on terror


[25-Nov-18 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
the current and probably forever reining champion at curbing drug use is portugal


[25-Nov-18 10:03 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
what did Portugal do?


[25-Nov-18 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most effective way to eliminate drug usage is either to go full religious nut like Saudia Arabia, and short of that, legalize everything and crash the market.


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Duterte is just killing people because he *can*


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it gets him support because it makes people scared to oppose him


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
portugal legalized all drug use (except in public) and taxed it


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but the US won't want to legalize everything, because people lol


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually, the US will fully legalize pot


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's unstoppable


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
also


[25-Nov-18 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
and minor infractions for drug use in public


[25-Nov-18 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
ecstacy and shrooms are gonna be forced off Schedule 1


[25-Nov-18 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
and then it sent all the taxes collected to fund rehabilitation


[25-Nov-18 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
once something has an FDA-approved treatment, it can't remain on Schedule 1


[25-Nov-18 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's a pretty big deal.


[25-Nov-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways


[25-Nov-18 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

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Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the wor...
The long read: Since it decriminalised all drugs in 2001, Portugal has seen dramatic drops in overdoses, HIV infection and drug-related crime
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[25-Nov-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte is just taking the American approach to the War on Drug[ user]s to its logical conclusion


[25-Nov-18 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
outright killing them instead of throwing them in jail for life


[25-Nov-18 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for why America started this, the point was always to stop subversive groups


[25-Nov-18 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
In 2001, nearly two decades into Pereira’s accidental specialisation in addiction, Portugal became the first country to decriminalise the possession and consumption of all illicit substances. Rather than being arrested, those caught with a personal supply might be given a warning, a small fine, or told to appear before a local commission – a doctor, a lawyer and a social worker – about treatment, harm reduction, and the support services that were available to them.


[25-Nov-18 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakks want rights? Hippies want to stop shooting up Vietnam? Criminalize that stuff they like and throw them in jail.


[25-Nov-18 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disrupt their meetings, imprison their leaders, etc.


[25-Nov-18 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
Portugal’s remarkable recovery, and the fact that it has held steady through several changes in government – including conservative leaders who would have preferred to return to the US-style war on drugs – could not have happened without an enormous cultural shift, and a change in how the country viewed drugs, addiction – and itself.


[25-Nov-18 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte has no really clear group he wants to go after, tho, he just wants to go after people in general


[25-Nov-18 10:09 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so he's like Marcos II then?


[25-Nov-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody can even really form a solid opposition when they know they'll just get drugs planted on them alongside several pieces of lead.


[25-Nov-18 10:09 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
just killing people just cause he dislikes them?


[25-Nov-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not even that he dislikes them


[25-Nov-18 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just killing people because it makes it harder for people to oppose him.


[25-Nov-18 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A strongman populist gains support when people are fearful and suffering


[25-Nov-18 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if he is the cause of it


[25-Nov-18 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
People, when afraid, become more conservative, embracing brutal "justice" and similar, even if against their own friends and neighbors. It's part of our self-preservation instinct, to snitch on our buddies to survive.


[25-Nov-18 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
People when suffering are too concerned with the suffering to really think political issues and their consequences thru, they just want a quikk fix to every problem (another core of conservative thinking).


[25-Nov-18 10:12 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
kind of like stirring up water to catch fish?


[25-Nov-18 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like dropping bits of dead fish to the bottom of the barrel


[25-Nov-18 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fish recognize that it's their own species, dead, and try to swim away...towards the top, where you can catch them.


[25-Nov-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khhz5WUUEt8

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Why NOBODY Likes Amy Schumer
Not only is Amy Schumer terribly unfunny, she's also a terrible person. Here's why I can't stand Amy Schumer. Twitter: https://twitter.com/eazyonme Instagram...
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[25-Nov-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
I like this guy


[25-Nov-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
he seems like a radical centrist


[25-Nov-18 10:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not enough Maoist aesthetic.


[25-Nov-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism

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Radical centrism
Radical centrism (also called the radical center/centre or radical middle) is a political ideology that arose in the Western nations in the late 20th century.  At first it was defined in a variety of ways, but at the beginning of the 21st century a number of political science...


[25-Nov-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
"One common criticism of radical centrism is that its policies are only marginally different from conventional centrist policies."


[25-Nov-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
I love that the article treats radical centrism as if it were a real thing somehow


[25-Nov-18 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
even though the article itself admits that "radical" centrism is only "marginally different" from centrism


[25-Nov-18 10:18 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
lul


[25-Nov-18 10:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Nov-18 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJA5mSK53YI

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Napoleon Total War Theme Song
All rights reserved for the makers of this game.
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[25-Nov-18 10:19 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
200 iq dictator claims to be centrist


[25-Nov-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
that what inspired me to ask why there's no "reasonable" despots anymore


[25-Nov-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
all the modern despots from the 20th century seem to be insane and want to kill and oppress everyone


[25-Nov-18 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
and I still haven't found a reasonable answer


[25-Nov-18 10:22 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Well, when was the last "reasonable" despot?


[25-Nov-18 10:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Enlightened Despotism is the closest that I've ever seen as "reasonable"


[25-Nov-18 10:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and that died out in the 18th and 19th centuries iirc


[25-Nov-18 10:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Simply put, the French Revolution was a big fuck you to absolutism


[25-Nov-18 10:25 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I think today, modern despots are so desensitized and insane that they couldn't care less pretending to be a champion of the people


[25-Nov-18 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/articles/bullet-point-3-napoleon-oppress-jews/

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Bullet Point #3: Did Napoleon "oppress" the Jews? - napoleon.org
Having restored the Catholic religion, Napoleon extended this approach to the other religious denominations of his Empire: first, with the law dated 8 April 1802 for Protestants, in other words, the Reformed Church and Lutherans, and five years later for the Jewish religion, ...
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[25-Nov-18 10:26 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
They rely on stirring up emotions in people and being their true awful selves because people are tired of politicians that lie


[25-Nov-18 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
His choices were a stage of a long and difficult path, in a country that was still tempted by “anti-Semitism”. In 1808, and after 1810 when the “infamous” decree was relaxed, the Jews of the French Empire were the only ones in Europe to enjoy the freedom to practise their religion, given an official status, with rabbis officially recognized by the state. They were first “emancipated” before being integrated, a situation that was again unique in Europe.


[25-Nov-18 10:26 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Japan was a lot friendlier to Jews than most of Europe, though


[25-Nov-18 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
the idea of thinking ahead is almost completely foreign in today's political atmosphere


[25-Nov-18 10:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I guess never being Christianized and not having any large Jewish population was what helped it


[25-Nov-18 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
almost, you could say, a *radical* idea


[25-Nov-18 10:28 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Actually, I think modern despots are populists but they inspire radicalism as well


[25-Nov-18 10:28 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Apparently there is something cool about a crazy man who isn't afraid of committing wrong


[25-Nov-18 10:29 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
they're seen as "tough" or some bullshit like that


[25-Nov-18 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
I always thought it was funny how words like "king" or "emperor" sound positive and powerful in today's culture, but stuff like "despot" and "dictator" sound weak and negative


[25-Nov-18 10:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mahkno, a man so free he give the 🅱olsheviks a fuggin spoog

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[25-Nov-18 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
when they're all basically different words for the same thing


[25-Nov-18 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, thinking ahead


[25-Nov-18 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
so, Otto von Bismarck didn't think ahead


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to hold onto power, he kept ceding stuff to the religious conservatives


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Otto did say that things will go to hell in 20 years after his departure if things went on like this


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and it did


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
while orchestrating wars with France etc.


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually, the religious conservatives became Nazis


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] Crow#5457
I did nazi that coming


[25-Nov-18 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
he tried to warn people that World War I was gonna happen, but they didn't listen.


[25-Nov-18 10:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Otto was the Woodrow Wilson of his era


[25-Nov-18 10:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
had they listened to him, the respective World Wars probably wouldn't happen


[25-Nov-18 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, he saw things coming way too late.


[25-Nov-18 10:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Didn't you mean he saw things coming but the people wouldn't listen until too late?


[25-Nov-18 10:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Because IIRC that's what happened


[25-Nov-18 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't see it coming while he was in power


[25-Nov-18 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
once he was out of power, he realized everything was going to explode


[25-Nov-18 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he was no longer in a position people listened to.


[25-Nov-18 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh look, incompetent police https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/11/24/mall-shooting-man-killed-officer-not-shooter-police-say/2103534002/

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Alabama mall shooting: Officer killed the wrong man, officials say
Protesters on Saturday marched through an Alabama shopping mall where police killed a black man they later acknowledged was not the triggerman.
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[25-Nov-18 10:45 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
American police are notorious in my country


[25-Nov-18 10:45 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
for their rather excessive use of force


[25-Nov-18 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, the force wasn't excessive, but it was misdirected.


[25-Nov-18 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real gunman's on the loose.


[25-Nov-18 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/24/mps-seize-cache-facebook-internal-papers?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Parliament seizes cache of Facebook internal papers
Documents alleged to contain revelations on data and privacy controls that led to Cambridge Analytica scandal
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[25-Nov-18 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
nothing wrong with linking multiple articles on the same subject


[25-Nov-18 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/us/six4three-facebook-uk-parliament/index.html

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Internal documents Facebook has fought to keep private obtained by...
The British Parliament has obtained a set of internal Facebook documents the social media giant has fought for months to stop from being made public, according to Facebook and a lawyer involved in a suit against the company.
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[25-Nov-18 07:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
This is becoming more and more like Watchdogs 2 lel


[25-Nov-18 07:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Now we only need for people Elon Musk to be involved in a major data theft scandal and this will be like Johnny English Strikes Again


[25-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Nov-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[]


[25-Nov-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Nov-18 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Yellow Jacket protests put up a guillotine as a threat in service to their protesting mission:

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[25-Nov-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIKFJcImoOo

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KlimSanguine
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André Dassary - Le Chant du Départ (hymne révolutionnaire et r...
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[25-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
radical centrism will rise again


[25-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Ir9K6Yx.jpg

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[25-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
also I prefer this version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdxBh4ZUeM

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Aleesb
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Le Chant Du Depart
French Revolutionary Song. Long live the republic! I am aware that this painting is from Delacroix's Liberty Leading the People; it happens to be evocative o...
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[25-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/iYn5Q04.jpg

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Being self-made.
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[25-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
how capitalism actually works


[25-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism, but with extra steps.


[25-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
there was a time when you could buy a vending/slot/game/whatever machine and keep putting them in shops until you were making millions


[25-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
but that was a long time ago


[25-Nov-18 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, evidently that previously posted picture was edited. Here's the real one.

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[25-Nov-18 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Still a Yellow Vest protest.


[25-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, someone listened to Coldplay and opened up Photoshop


[25-Nov-18 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/bd7okvsyxg021.jpg

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[25-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1066266875712217088?s=19

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The strongest famine broke out in the Soviet Union in the 1930s, it affected many ethnicities, which lived within a young state. It was a common tragedy for Russians, Ukrainians, Kazakhs and other peoples of the Soviet Union  https://t.co/um0CdLPA9W 
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[25-Nov-18 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fukk Russia


[25-Nov-18 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I have seen Holocaust deniers upset that Holomodor isn't given more attention


[25-Nov-18 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what they think of this


[25-Nov-18 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Nov-18 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/along-west-seattle-beaches-slain-california-sea-lions-an-unwelcome-sight/

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Dead sea lions are washing up on Puget Sound shores — with bulle...
Since September, 13 dead California sea lions have been reported, with six confirmed to have been shot, according to Seal Sitters, a volunteer group that responds to reports of stranded or dead marine mammals.
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[25-Nov-18 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
tbh they are kind aggressive


[25-Nov-18 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Here's a nice old story. https://theredphoenixapl.org/2013/09/21/american-indians-protect-treaty-territory-from-white-supremacists-in-leith-north-dakota/?fbclid=IwAR0r6cV7GAst1tG08DMbJ5Xe2qbxQJTa20DejTZS3CDoIiXye9Sp8ageM0Y

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American Indians: Protect Treaty Territory from White Supremacists...
Lakotas and Dakotas face off with white supremacists in Leith, North Dakota  Lakotas and Dakotas face off with white supremacists in Leith, North Dakota By Brenda Norrell Censored News Breaking New…
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[25-Nov-18 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYPmDRkTRQ

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TheLonelyBearCub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYPmDRkTRQ
Lakota War Dance
Sioux indians are the best known in America. If you watch this video and are Sioux, and find this offensive, please let me know.
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[25-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMDtibc13fc&t=98

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Sea lion drags girl into Steveston waters
Watch as a sea lion drags a young girl into the waters at the Steveston Fisherman's Wharf, Richmond B.C. Canada. The girl was rescued by her family members a...
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[25-Nov-18 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
nom


[25-Nov-18 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Once they get a taste for blood it's all over


[25-Nov-18 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol it bit her by the butt


[25-Nov-18 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sea Lions must have started the California fires because they want humans to vacate their state so they can claim the piers which are theirs by land right.


[25-Nov-18 11:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sea lion are like dogs. Big bites too.


[25-Nov-18 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
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Oh snap
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[26-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46338671

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Russia seizes Ukrainian naval ships
Ukraine is set to declare martial law after saying six crew members were hurt in the naval incident.
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[26-Nov-18 12:26 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
IT’S HAPPENING


[26-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Appeasement will always work.


[26-Nov-18 12:43 AM] Nile#1441
Get your Ron Paul gifs ready in case stuff happens


[26-Nov-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If only NATO had a spine and came to free Crimea


[26-Nov-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
This whole issue wouldn't have happened if the USSR never gave Ukraine Crimea in the first place


[26-Nov-18 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
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Here’s an extra set of ear plugs
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[26-Nov-18 01:39 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
kek


[26-Nov-18 06:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Nebbie Sadly, if there are two countries NATO fears the most, it's China and Russia


[26-Nov-18 07:13 AM] moonatik#3676
no shit they'd fear them


[26-Nov-18 07:13 AM] moonatik#3676
russia has the capability to wipe out the human race


[26-Nov-18 07:13 AM] moonatik#3676
and china has enough economic leverage to get what it wants


[26-Nov-18 12:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tu1rFo7.mp4

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[26-Nov-18 02:43 PM] ononim#8141
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george-soros:
“Brainlets be like, Islam needs a Reformation when Salafism and Wahhabism are the Reformation 😪
”
I’m being kinda flagrant but it checks out from several standpoints. Both abhorred...
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[26-Nov-18 02:44 PM] ononim#8141
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Also the people foaming at the mouth about an Islamic Reformation just don't understand that Sunni Islam doesn't have anything that resembles a church hierarchy. Like if you think that a bunch of...
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[26-Nov-18 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Islam doesn't need a reformation


[26-Nov-18 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
It needs to fucking die


[26-Nov-18 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Just like Christianity and Judaism and all the rest of them

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[26-Nov-18 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/indigenous-woman-yells-i-hate-white-people-before-punching-white-woman-but-its-not-a-hate-crime-judge-rules

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Indigenous woman yells 'I hate white people' before punching white...
A Calgary indigenous woman who knocked out a Caucasian woman’s tooth while yelling “I hate white people,” didn’t commit a racially motivated crime, a judge says.Provinc…
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[26-Nov-18 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dangit the article is 2 years old


[26-Nov-18 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] nah


[26-Nov-18 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just replace all of them with based gnosticism


[26-Nov-18 05:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/nkwtEfd.mp4

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[26-Nov-18 07:08 PM] ononim#8141
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[26-Nov-18 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.space.com/41427-trump-space-force-military-plan-revealed.html

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US to Launch Space Force Military Branch in 2020, VP Mike Pence Says
Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday (Aug. 9) unveiled a detailed plan for the military Space Force proposed by President Donald Trump. If Congress agrees to establish it, the Space Force will be the sixth branch of the U.S. military.
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[26-Nov-18 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
2020


[26-Nov-18 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-26/crimea-flare-up-offers-putin-fresh-chance-to-test-west-s-resolve


[26-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time soon


[26-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
also where's the preview


[26-Nov-18 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stopped by paywall, probably.


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46338671

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Russia seizes Ukrainian naval ships
Ukraine is set to declare martial law after saying six crew members were hurt in the naval incident.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06npmvg.jpg


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo why we need a space force or what it woudl even do


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
launch satellites to punch other satellites


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia and China will eventually create anti-satellite weapons


[26-Nov-18 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if they hav it, WE NEED IT RAAARGH GET PRODUCING THOSE WEAPOOONS


[26-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just the BS of the MIC


[26-Nov-18 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically it;s the cold war but with sattelites


[26-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, anti-sat weapons are basically not worth it


[26-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
we just don't hav the laser tech yet


[26-Nov-18 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
MIC is flailing a bit because it lost tanks


[26-Nov-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean an anti satelite weapon isnt too hard if you want to do it via domino effect by propelling one sattelite into another until it cascades. but yeah


[26-Nov-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's really fucking dumb


[26-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
That...is not feasible.


[26-Nov-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
orbits just don't line up in that manner.


[26-Nov-18 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you underestimate the power of an idiot with a club


[26-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The destructive force of impact would hav to be done in a very, very precise way...which is not how impacts work, and then change inclination as well as orbit timing, and repeat for each satellite.


[26-Nov-18 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you would need to use your own engines for that


[26-Nov-18 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these idiots don't know anything about science and will probably try to order the space force to invent lightsabers


[26-Nov-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Reagan's STAR WARS?


[26-Nov-18 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, that was so ridiculous


[26-Nov-18 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
kinetic kill vehicles could work if they got funding.


[26-Nov-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOOO BOY https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-police-suggest-black-man-killed-officer-shouldn-t-have-n940036

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Alabama police suggest black man killed by officer shouldn't have ...
Police in Alabama promised transparency after protests in response to an officer fatally shooting  Emantic Bradford Jr. at a shopping mall.
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[26-Nov-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he was a good (blakk) guy with a gun


[26-Nov-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
police shot him and let the real bad guy get away, thinking they had stopped the threat.


[26-Nov-18 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking prepare your memes.


[26-Nov-18 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh it was in alabama... that explains a lot...


[26-Nov-18 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
>be outstanding citizen, get permit to carry a weapon


[26-Nov-18 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
>some white guy is shooting up the mall, spring into action


[26-Nov-18 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
>police shoot you because you're blakk and hav a gun, assuming you're the shooter


[26-Nov-18 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
>real shooter gets away


[26-Nov-18 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>was in alabama


[26-Nov-18 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Be American


[26-Nov-18 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Get shot


[26-Nov-18 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's all you've got for memes? Disappointing.


[26-Nov-18 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is a meme


[26-Nov-18 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
ye


[26-Nov-18 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[26-Nov-18 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
>:V


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Be Russian


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Get a shot


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-asks-mueller-hasnt-interviewed-hundreds-campaign-staffers-without-russian-contacts-164340382.html

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Trump asks why Mueller hasn't interviewed 'hundreds' of campaign s...
The president expressed fresh frustration with the special counsel's investigation into his campaign’s contacts with Russia.
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[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Get another


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Nile#1441
>squat


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Treyacksoot


[26-Nov-18 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"you interview all the people who arent related to this investigation, that will help your investigation!"


[26-Nov-18 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Dershowitz is talking about how it will be bad


[26-Nov-18 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Nov-18 08:28 PM] ononim#8141
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[26-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nile#1441
Oh the humanity, tear gas at families storming the border


[26-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nile#1441
dis be fascism folks!!!!!!!


[26-Nov-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
When children come to your castle, it isn't okay to hurt them.


[26-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They pose no threat to you.


[26-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nile#1441
They brought their kids to a border that was going to be protected by people ready to fire tear gas for storming it, they knew what they were doing.


[26-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's fallacious reasoning


[26-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're saying it's okay to hurt people because they expected you would hurt them.


[26-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's circular.


[26-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, using that, you could justify anything


[26-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could say it's okay to use napalm because they brought their kids to people who would use napalm.


[26-Nov-18 08:34 PM] Nile#1441
I mean isn't it convenient that you'll always here "b-but the children tho!!!!" whenever border incidents occur by people trying to sneak in.


[26-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's not "convenient"


[26-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the fact of the matter is, many of these people bring their kids because the entire point is that their family is targeted by violence


[26-Nov-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they want to secure safety for themselves and their descendants, especially their immediate ones.


[26-Nov-18 08:36 PM] Nile#1441
So you bring your children to a heavily-guarded border that will cause violence if you try to force your way in


[26-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
"that will cause violence"


[26-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
People should not expect us to be evil


[26-Nov-18 08:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It is safer than a gang that will chop your family up as an example.


[26-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it doesn't make it okay for us to be evil for them to expect us to be.


[26-Nov-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our country is what's causing this violence


[26-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and it would not hav been expected to deploy tear gas for these purposes prior to today)


[26-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nile#1441
I mean hey, it worked.


[26-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ends do not justify the means


[26-Nov-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
and these ends are evil.


[26-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should be saving these people from gang violence, not trying to condemn them to it and hurting them in the meantime.


[26-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Nile#1441
"evil"


[26-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think condemning someone to die by the hands of others while causing pain to them and their children to delay so much as having to hold them in a cell while we decide to do the condemning is indeed evil.


[26-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
how do we know they forced themselves over anyway?


[26-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nile#1441
If the US doesn't want them, they don't have to take them in.


[26-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, we hav an obligation under international law we agreed to take in and process asylum claims.


[26-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
There were reports of migrants breaking through a Mexican police barricade and some even arrested for crossing.


[26-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
We *do* hav to take them in, at least temporarily.


[26-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it okay if they were arrested?


[26-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
Also I'll go ahead and say that international law is a joke.


[26-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is no joke to hav consistent obligations to try to reduce problems with migrations.


[26-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nile#1441
@Nebbie Forcing your way into the US without proper authorization is illegal.


[26-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not if you apply for asylum


[26-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is quite legal to force your way in and apply.


[26-Nov-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is how asylum is *supposed* to work.


[26-Nov-18 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone is about to die. You can save them by letting them stay with you until the danger is gone. If you don't you know they will die. Not letting them stay you might as well pull the trigger yourself.


[26-Nov-18 08:44 PM] Nile#1441
And no I do think it's a joke to have to listen to international bueracrats about how national policy is to be dictated in sovereign countries.


[26-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nile#1441
At that point you're a colony if anything.


[26-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is more a joke for every country to do it completely differently and to throw tear gas at people that pose no threat.


[26-Nov-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't solve anything and it just wastes our money.


[26-Nov-18 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"they threw a rock" you are a man dressed head to toe in tactical armor...


[26-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nile#1441
So then we're just colonial subjects to international elites with no true sovereignty.


[26-Nov-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those international elites included us


[26-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
These agreements were championed by the US because of the benefits they provide


[26-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they were a crucial tool in the cold war to show a united front against the lakk of freedom of movement of Communism


[26-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nile#1441
As a Canadian, I tell the US to piss off.


[26-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But now, we are denying people this freedom, and wasting everyone's time with nonsense


[26-Nov-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is against the very purpose of our country.


[26-Nov-18 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
>us doesn't want them


[26-Nov-18 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Can a lawsuit be filed in international court against the US for this


[26-Nov-18 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
This is unacceptable


[26-Nov-18 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
who is this US you're talking about and why can he decide who can go where who can't


[26-Nov-18 08:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Isn't this a case of US troops attacking Mexican citizens on Mexican soil also? Don't they need to wait for people to cross before something can be done?


[26-Nov-18 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[26-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Nile#1441
It's hardly an "attack", yesterday's events in Ukraine was an attack of another sovereign state.


[26-Nov-18 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a soldier shot a teenager for throwign a rock


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Nile#1441
This was a border skirmish with unruly migrants.


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
So I can just shot a tear gas at you and no probelm, since it isn't attacking


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like lethaly shot a teenager for throwing a rock


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being unruly isn't a good reason to shoot tear gas at children


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Nile#1441
How nice to completely make a nothing statement.


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Nile#1441
@ononim


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] I don't think so, sadly


[26-Nov-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
being unrully is not a godo reason to shoot tear gat at anyone


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
the UN could do a resolution...but the US has veto power


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no wait that was in 2012


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my bad


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nile#1441
So people rioting in the streets shouldn't be hit with tear gas either?


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes not


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nile#1441
lol


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
but usually not when children are among them


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nile#1441
Hippies


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
it would be highly unreasonable to use tear gas on a mob with many children in it.


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
It's people who are they rioting gaint who should be


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
Peferebly with lead


[26-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
because tear gas can actually cause physical problems, potentially including death


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
a normal adult can withstand it and can get out of the cloud usually


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Nicholas_II_by_Boissonnas_%26_Eggler_c1909.jpg

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[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but a child among a crowd is likely to fall over and be trapped


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
at which point they could die


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
best day of my life


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children are a lot mroe susceptible to gas duetot heir tiny lungs and  underdeveloped bodies


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nile#1441
@ononim 🖕


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
using tear gas on crowds with children in them is extremely bad


[26-Nov-18 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is something that can lead to negligent homicide


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
Would you prefer they fired rubber bullets


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
@Nile can't wait for parasite piece of shit and his mom to bite the dust too btw


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, rubber bullets are also bad for lethality


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
@ononim Choke


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
Suck my cock and balls


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
in this instance, it'd be better to just let them cross and handcuff them individually once they're over


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then process their asylum claims


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
Lol


[26-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nile#1441
Wild


[26-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would be much less likely to hurt anyone and would lead to things being sorted out sanely


[26-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why international law calls for it.


[26-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
What would you do with violent people at the border


[26-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
Throwing rocks, breaking fences, etc


[26-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unarmed violent people? They can be handcuffed as well, border patrol just needs some basic armor


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
a thrown rokk isn't going to kill you thru a helmet


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
Still an act of aggression, would you allow them to stay


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting them would definitely not be justified.


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, their asylum application would be processed.


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nile#1441
lmao


[26-Nov-18 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Low velocity bean bags.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] DevField#5162
It's not about the physical act, but what it symbolises. They obviously have no respect for the country they're entering, only doing so under duress. I don't agree with most of what Nile says, but it is a predicament.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't condemn people to death just because they were a bit hostile in trying to get us to help them.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nile#1441
Let's grant asylum to the guy who attacked our border guards, brilliant.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no expectation to kill a border guard with a rokk.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is meant to deter long enuff to get over.


[26-Nov-18 08:56 PM] Nile#1441
Killing isn't the point


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Mikey#7286
ohnoes, a rock was thrown at me even though I'm wearing STURDY RIOT ARMOR


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Nile#1441
The point is that this act of aggression is hardly indicative of someone who wants to truly live in the nation.


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Their aggression would be taken into account as they apply for asylum. They can spend their asylum in a cell.


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends are they defendign a loved one form border patrol?


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
If we didn't want mass migration from central america we shouldn't have supported the coup in Nicaragua.


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is our karmic payment


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
^


[26-Nov-18 08:57 PM] Nile#1441
If I want to move to Ireland I'm not gonna start kicking down doors and throwing rocks at the immigration office


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
So suck it up and take it up the ass, reactionaries


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
>destroy the far away place


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
>"wtf why are all these forgeines """invading""" us?~"


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ireland doesnt have connected land borders


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] Nile#1441
@AaronMk Saying that like I approve of what the US did in Central America


[26-Nov-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mexico does


[26-Nov-18 08:59 PM] Mikey#7286
we should stop canadians from coming to the US, too, maybe we won't so many terrible drivers here


[26-Nov-18 08:59 PM] Nile#1441
You're missing the point


[26-Nov-18 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem is we have a president who is currently tryign to shut down the legal process to get into america


[26-Nov-18 08:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ireland has land border with northern Ireland which is the UK. It is not like US border though as you are free to cross it.


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Border crisis in Ireland now. Return of the IRA. Troubles 2: Eire Bugaloo


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Royal family murdered by 'Ra activists


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make it real, Theresa May


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so how are thye supposed to come into america peacefully thorugh legal channels when all the legal channels get shut the fuck down?


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🔥 🇬🇧


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] Nile#1441
IRA is part of why I don't identify with my Irish roots


[26-Nov-18 09:00 PM] Nile#1441
They're gay LARPers


[26-Nov-18 09:01 PM] DevField#5162
The IRA are just a gang at this point, pretty much glorified drug dealers


[26-Nov-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Not supporting the 'Ra faction that fucking caps drug dealers in the knee with shotguns


[26-Nov-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
P L E B I A N    T A S T E


[26-Nov-18 09:02 PM] Nile#1441
>just capping knees, not killing them


[26-Nov-18 09:02 PM] Nile#1441
Come on now


[26-Nov-18 09:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, killing comes next


[26-Nov-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
killign trhme doesnt elt them go back to send the message where thye thne get assassinated for further example


[26-Nov-18 09:04 PM] Nile#1441
That sounds fine


[26-Nov-18 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://medium.com/s/story/timeline-us-intervention-central-america-a9bea9ebc148

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A Century of U.S. Intervention Created the Immigration Crisis
A national spotlight now shines on the border between the United States and Mexico, where heartbreaking images of Central American children being separated from their parents and held in cages…
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[26-Nov-18 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
We still haven't hung Oliver North.


[26-Nov-18 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
He should get the rope for bringing in so much cocaine.


[26-Nov-18 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is oliver north not dead already?


[26-Nov-18 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oliver North is alive and well and in command of the NRA


[26-Nov-18 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[26-Nov-18 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
And several defense companies that he and his Iran-Contra buddies run together.


[26-Nov-18 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that exaplins a disturbing amount of why these things are so fucked up


[26-Nov-18 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of people who were involved in that scandal and survived walked away went to work there


[26-Nov-18 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
North is also a correspondent for Fox News.


[26-Nov-18 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Faux News


[26-Nov-18 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Sometimes I go to the cafeteria and hear fox news and wonder if I am really hearing infowars


[26-Nov-18 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[26-Nov-18 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college plays fox news on it's tvs


[26-Nov-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mine usually has CNN on, as well as several screen on the Discovery or History channel.


[26-Nov-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
They're all on mute with subtitles tho


[26-Nov-18 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why i tend not to eat int he cafeteria


[26-Nov-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or, the CNN TV may not be CNN but MSNBC or something


[26-Nov-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some news network channel


[26-Nov-18 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
occasionally it will be judge judy


[26-Nov-18 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Most people don't watch anything though, they're either passing through to somewhere else, talking to friends, studying, playing Magic the Gathering or some shit, and there's a gaming corner set up below the stair case where there's some group playing sports or racing games or Soul Caliber because there's a rating cap at "Teen" despite being a college where everyone is at least over 18.


[26-Nov-18 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/9X7XWJ9

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Daily reminder
https://i.imgur.com/9X7XWJ9.jpg


[26-Nov-18 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is why you elect libertarian socialists who'll make it such a goal to empower alternative organizations of democratic control like Unions that private power in the economy can be neutralized so government regulation can be rolled back because the IWW will be back to regulate via dynamite. :^)


[26-Nov-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-members-turn-trump-democrats-see-ivanka-email-investigation-achilles-heel-1230652

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GOP members turn on Trump over Ivanka email case
Senator Ron Johnson and Representative Trey Gowdy requested information about the case.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/11/26/gettyimages-1063852586_0.jpg


[26-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the Emperor has no clothes and it's getting reaaaallly hard to keep the lies up


[26-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, imperialism https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mexico-says-its-deporting-nearly-100-migrants-who-tried-cross-n940206

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Mexico says its deporting nearly 100 migrants who tried to cross U...
Over 100 federal police officers, some with riot gear, circled the Benito Juarez shelter, where many migrants making their way to the U.S., are staying.
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[26-Nov-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/418289-trump-on-dire-warnings-in-climate-report-i-dont-believe-it

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Trump on dire warnings in climate report: ‘I don’t believe it’
President Trump said Monday that he doesn’t “believe” the findings of a major report his administration released forecasting dire consequences to the United States from climate change.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_112618gn2_lead.jpg


[26-Nov-18 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[26-Nov-18 09:45 PM] ononim#8141
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[26-Nov-18 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKrIdSPkHI

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Cinema Insiders
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Henry A. Wallace Common Man Speech
From a 1942 Paramount documentary short titled "Paramount Victory Short No. T2-3: The Price of Victory" In it, Vice-President Henry A. Wallace narrates a pat...
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[26-Nov-18 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bless your spirit, comrade Wallace. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏


[26-Nov-18 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LruaD7XhQ50

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CGP Grey
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What is Federal Land?
Like what does it mean? (For real though?) ***NEW PLUSHIE BOTS***: https://standard.tv/cgpgrey/sorterbot Discuss this video: https://old.reddit.com/r/CGPGrey...
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[26-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/kyS3buO

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We need to talk about postnatal depression and psychosis
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[26-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
depression and psychosis are bad


[26-Nov-18 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
>I called them and they said they could see me in 10 minutes - I love the NHS.


[26-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
why do we keep arguing over the benefits of having free healthcare for everyone again


[26-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
this is one of the reasons why california is overpopulated


[26-Nov-18 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
you get free healthcare below a certain income threshold


[26-Nov-18 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
and it's barely even "true" healthcare because there's barely any funding for it


[26-Nov-18 10:41 PM] Crow#5457
also for some reason discord gets really busy the moment I step away from the computer for an extended period of time, but then when I come back everyone's gone lol


[26-Nov-18 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not an issue with universal healthcare itself, but austerity demanded by the corporations as heralded by the tories, particularly by the 80's under Margerat Thatcher that saw demands for rising privatization of services through the cutting of, and selling off of public services for private benefit. Thus starving things for the people to put meat on the bones of private interest. You could point to the same issues in private healthcare, which excuses it on the pretense of, "well if you wanted better you should have bought better".


[26-Nov-18 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
I don't understand what you're trying to say, I'm saying that the NHS is obviously much better than anything the US has


[26-Nov-18 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
ok


[26-Nov-18 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Here I thought you were railing against it.


[26-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's talking with how the UK sabotaged the NHS


[26-Nov-18 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfX78VGeUrg

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Reich-Wing Watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfX78VGeUrg
Henry Wallace Warns Future Americans About the Rise of Fascism
The struggle between democracy and fascism: http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm From the Thom Hartmann program.
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[26-Nov-18 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>2015


[26-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
the "why do we keep arguing over the benefits of having free healthcare for everyone again" is in regards to the fact that people still try to unironically argue that free healthcare for everyone is wasteful and not worth the money


[26-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
when there's tons of real-world proof that it's much better than private healthcare


[26-Nov-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
having both is the best of both worlds


[26-Nov-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's a recent video that BadMouseProductions did on public services vs private services. From a costs and expenditures perspective the strengths of a public service as he outlined is that not only do they benefit from economies of scale, where with so many people paying into it they can have lower prices over all, but being public services they can be regulated by voters as being not-for-profit and the costs of which can be regulated to suit for the operational needs of the people using it and all the money goes into doing just that. Likewise, by being a public service and displacing private service there's no need for advertising and there's no budget for marketing the service, so money otherwise allocated to that can of course go into providing actual service.


[26-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
public healthcare keeps private healthcare costs down, and private healthcare companies also get funding from the public healthcare system to further decrease prices


[26-Nov-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you pay out to a private company you're not paying for care itself, but the marketing and accounting budget of the company as well as CEO profit.


[26-Nov-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget externalities


[26-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are the lynchpin behind why public services are better for society in many areas


[26-Nov-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
so all private healthcare ends up doing when everyone has public healthcare is expediting appointment times


[26-Nov-18 10:58 PM] moonatik#3676
i'm worried that if america ever establishes UHC an unexpected republican government would immediately sabotage it


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] moonatik#3676
and then it'd be the "see? it doesn't work! now get rid of it" shtick


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
australia has the best healthcare in the world, somuch so that their conservatives pretend the issue doesn't exist


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
even though they don't like it


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
also that's what the UK's conservatives are doing right now


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] moonatik#3676
i know


[26-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
sabotaging the NHS


[26-Nov-18 11:00 PM] moonatik#3676
i doubt that you could ever actually convince a significant chunk of the population that the NHS was a bad idea from the start


[26-Nov-18 11:01 PM] moonatik#3676
but hey that won't stop people from voting tory


[26-Nov-18 11:02 PM] moonatik#3676
a tory MP could literally run over an old woman, kick her into the ground, burn down her local clinic, steal her pension and she'd still vote for them lol


[26-Nov-18 11:02 PM] moonatik#3676
"ooh yes of course i'll vote conservative, wouldn't want to risk that scottish lot or that evil socialist"


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could sabotage to some extent


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
but never to an extent it would be as bad as our current system


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and over time, it would gain support


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is harder to take things away than to giv them


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] moonatik#3676
now, i love my grandmother, she's one of the best people i've ever known, but her political beliefs essentially boil down to "i support the tories because that just feels right" and i find that irritating


[26-Nov-18 11:03 PM] moonatik#3676
luckily we rarely talk about politics


[26-Nov-18 11:06 PM] moonatik#3676
if there's one thing i have learnt from that though is that theres more to people than their political views


[26-Nov-18 11:07 PM] moonatik#3676
i've met lovely people who i strongly disagree with and absolute cretins that i agree with


[26-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just feels right to support those who would sabotage processes for people to migrate.


[26-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, thing is


[26-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you giv people anti-anxiety pills


[26-Nov-18 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
they become less racist


[26-Nov-18 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
these things really boil down mostly to innate emotional behavior, where our anxieties and fears make us do things to oppose perceived threats in the form of other cultures etc.


[26-Nov-18 11:10 PM] moonatik#3676
i do admit my grandma is fairly xenophobic, but i try to look past that


[26-Nov-18 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think in terms of looking ahead to protect robust social services like the NHS comes down to finding ways to organize and craft long-lived programs and movements that would serve to carry on the program and platform beyond a generation. In short, you might argue this is what something like a Union is for. You can't trust the long-term existence of the material conditions of the time that made certain reforms and programs to be permanent. Like the British NHS being a creation of the post-war UK where through depression and devastating war there was a common identity of solidarity and being in it together that carried on so long as the war-time generations were alive and active enough in politics that they could maintain those war-time and post-war time policies of common interest for decades, it's the cited reason I often hear as to why the Labor Party in the UK held fast to its democratic socialist roots for as long as it had while other Labor parties elsewhere degenerated into an effective left-liberal institute that sold itself off to the capitalist forces of the time.


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
btw you can make paragraphs with shift-enter


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Capitalist forces which by the way, held enough of the economic power to threaten capital flight if austerity programs were not put in place to preserve their profit and growth.


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] moonatik#3676
UK labour turned to neoliberalist leftism in the late 90s


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
honk
honk


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
beep beep


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] moonatik#3676
and then in 2015 the party was like "wait why did we do that wtf"


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
But that's good to know, thanks Crow.


[26-Nov-18 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
C O R B Y N    R E V O L U T I O N


[26-Nov-18 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
B L A I R I T E S    T O    T H E    W A L L


[26-Nov-18 11:12 PM] moonatik#3676
not honestly a fan of corbyn in all honesty, but i'd take him over a neoliberal or a tory any fuckin day of the week


[26-Nov-18 11:12 PM] moonatik#3676
his policies are good and that's all that matters to me


[26-Nov-18 11:12 PM] moonatik#3676
plus in terms of campaigning he's finally figured out how to play to his strengths


[26-Nov-18 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well if you want to see anything done I'm honestly drifting to the position you have to do more than vote and hem and haw over things on internet forums. You gotta organize. If there's a union in your field of work: join it. If there's a party that takes its internal democracy seriously: join it.


[26-Nov-18 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
More and more I've been thinking about joining some of the more radical groups in the US as part of my dues to wanting a better world, the DSA is gaining strength and making strides and joining it and going to its meetings would be healthy I feel for my political involvement.


[26-Nov-18 11:14 PM] moonatik#3676
i'm already a member of the labour party


[26-Nov-18 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I've toyed with the thought of joining Redneck Revolt and the IWW.


[26-Nov-18 11:14 PM] moonatik#3676
unfortunately my constituency is very unlikely to go labour with the FPTP system


[26-Nov-18 11:15 PM] moonatik#3676
i might tactically vote liberal democrat because i agree with them on a lot of important issues and they have a good foothold here


[26-Nov-18 11:16 PM] moonatik#3676
plus when push comes to shove i feel like the next government will be a left + lib coalition, with labour on top


[26-Nov-18 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
The most important thing to any political movement may be the organizing and communication with your peers. That's easy enough to do online where people just automatically drift towards one another who are like minded. But that doesn't do much. A voter like me in Michigan isn't going to do anything for the UK. Cross-border communication would be good for international cooperation but that means nothing if there's no power in the respective countries of the movements in question. You will eventually need to be active in local movements and speak to your local peers: fellow students and people you work with.


[26-Nov-18 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cheeky phil-posting by moi: ""Respect existence or expect resistance" is Hegelian as fuck. It's a rather sneaky summary of the master-slave dialectic from his Phenomenology."


[26-Nov-18 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, reference might be better than summary. But whatever.


[26-Nov-18 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
`if you giv people anti-anxiety pills`


[26-Nov-18 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
what kind of anti anxiety pills are we talking about here


[26-Nov-18 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
benzos? antihistamines? opioids?


[26-Nov-18 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
SSRIs?


[26-Nov-18 11:28 PM] moonatik#3676
hey i have an idea


[26-Nov-18 11:28 PM] moonatik#3676
praise something about a politician or ideology you strongly dislike


[26-Nov-18 11:28 PM] moonatik#3676
any takers?


[26-Nov-18 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Heidegger. That is all.


[26-Nov-18 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
For reference: Heidegger was an unabashed Nazi. His phenomenological work is pretty widely regarded as good stuff in discussing the relationship of the individual to his community and of history. Most academics I've heard talk about him do seriously regret he was "a useful idiot to the fascists" because of the quality of his stuff.


[26-Nov-18 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
As such, the French don't really like him and French phenomenologists from Sartre on have complained. But I do respect his work in the field.


[26-Nov-18 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Paul Ryan took steps to put legislative support behind criminal justice and police reform, as well as changing his stance on cannabis over the years to a position that eventually supported and advocated for legalization


[26-Nov-18 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Keynesian Economics is a return to a recognition of that capital needs to be controlled if it'll ever bring benefit to the most people in a capitalist system. I say return because like Adam Smith, it recognizes that absolute unhinged capitalism is abusive and dangerous that can create a proto-slave class of workers paid absolutely minimally and than worker representation in the capitalist process (unions) are a fundamentally positive thing to balance the interests of the workers vs the owner. By extension, the same structure should be extended into the political discourse to encourage the creation of public process to keep the movement of money flowing and discourage wealth hoarding by an owning class which seeks the accumulation of profit. Though, at the same time it should be recognized that the political interests of the economic elite in the accumulation of profit means there'd be a continued campaign to reduce the effect of these laws, as by owning capital they have more influence over the government than the people that work under them.


[26-Nov-18 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
There, I did my praise debt.


[26-Nov-18 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
propranolol, @byte[]


[26-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a beta blokker


[26-Nov-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
oh beta


[26-Nov-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
shit I haven't tried those yet


[26-Nov-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
was looking at playing around with that and pure O2


[26-Nov-18 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
(O2 is potentially an anxiogenic but that's not why I want it)


[26-Nov-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, some political-sounding things said on my recent uploads:


[26-Nov-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Female orgasms are a necessity, oxygen is a privilege."


[26-Nov-18 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Freedom from legs is the most important liberty."


[26-Nov-18 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
lel


[27-Nov-18 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://mr-bargearse.tumblr.com/post/180530658604/tahneetalks-fluffmugger-thetrippytrip-we

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tryin my damdest
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mr-bargearse
tahneetalks:
“ fluffmugger:
“ thetrippytrip:
“ We should be more pro-active or we’ll see more of such sad fates of honest people.
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And the utterly ironic thing is I’ve seen repeated tumblr posts of...
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[27-Nov-18 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/26/trump-says-us-could-slap-10percent-tariffs-on-iphones-laptops-from-china.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/26/trump-says-us-could-slap-10percent-tariffs-on-iphones-laptops-from-china.html
Trump suggests US could slap 10% tariffs on iPhones and laptops im...
President Donald Trump suggested he could place a 10 percent tariff on iPhones and laptops imported from China, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal published Monday.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/11/10/104834914-RTS1J4OC-xi-jinping-trump.1910x1000.jpg


[27-Nov-18 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
The Apple Tax™


[27-Nov-18 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/us/good-samaritan-killed-california/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/us/good-samaritan-killed-california/index.html
A California man was shot 8 times and died after checking on conce...
Patrick Smith died on Thanksgiving, days after being shot 8 times.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181125223834-good-samaritan-killed-california-2-super-tease.jpg


[27-Nov-18 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
teenage burglars go from running from police to shooting random dude 8 times


[27-Nov-18 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
Four teenage boys, ages 15 to 17, were arrested at the scene. Police have identified the suspected shooter as Leslie Hawkins, 18. Detectives searched the scene for Hawkins but were unable to locate him. KTLA reports that Hawkins is still at large.


[27-Nov-18 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
the only one who got away was the shooter


[27-Nov-18 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
"He went in with eight gunshot wounds, a broken thumb/wrist, fractured jaw, split tongue, missing teeth, two collapsed lungs, and almost completely devoid of blood," she told KTLA. Elizabeth Smith said her husband underwent multiple surgeries.


[27-Nov-18 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
he survived 8 days with those wounds


[27-Nov-18 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
humans are stupidly resilient


[27-Nov-18 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
>On Thanksgiving day, Smith was rushed to the intensive care unit after he began vomiting, Elizabeth Smith said. After multiple rounds of CPR, he died in the ICU, she said. His cause of death is still unknown.


[27-Nov-18 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
he was apparently stable enough to watch stuff on a laptop and talk to people too


[27-Nov-18 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
then he just started vomiting and died


[27-Nov-18 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/us/politics/mia-love-trump-utah.html

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By SYDNEY EMBER
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/us/politics/mia-love-trump-utah.html
Mia Love Criticizes Trump in Scathing Concession Speech
Ms. Love, the daughter of Haitian immigrants, also criticized Republicans for how they interact with minority voters.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/27/us/politics/27love/27love-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Nov-18 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
Representative Mia Love, the only black Republican woman in Congress, condemned President Trump on Monday in a scathing concession speech, describing him as having “no real relationships, just convenient transactions.”


[27-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/politics/russia-ukraine-trump-silence/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/politics/russia-ukraine-trump-silence/index.html
Trump refuses to condemn Russian aggression against Ukraine
As world leaders denounced Russia's aggression against Ukraine, President Donald Trump waited more than a day before offering a muted response about the clash, leaving the task of criticizing Moscow to the outgoing US ambassador to the UN.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181126135154-01-ukraine-tug-russia-super-tease.jpg


[27-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
fucking coward


[27-Nov-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
the west is filled with fucking cowards


[27-Nov-18 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest being the so-called """leader"""


[27-Nov-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as the leaders of saudi arabia and russia keep buying trump's expensive ass condos, he couldn't give less of a fuck abotu what's going onj in the world or what thye do


[27-Nov-18 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye pay him he will suck their dicks dry


[27-Nov-18 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell, if it werent for NATO and the UN trump woudl have probably tried to do the axis thing again by now


[27-Nov-18 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted he would probably botch it horribly


[27-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/26/trump-suggests-us-worldwide-network-1015922

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/26/trump-suggests-us-worldwide-network-1015922
Trump suggests creating U.S. 'worldwide network' to compete with CNN
"Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!" he said.
https://static.politico.com/4d/0c/7d16d1474110adcf1cd25b24cb4f/181126-donald-trump-ap-773.jpg


[27-Nov-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
ugh


[27-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I’ll make my own News Network


[27-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
With blackjack, and hookers!


[27-Nov-18 02:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
In fact, forget the news network!


[27-Nov-18 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[27-Nov-18 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tonight on trump news nightly: I'm not doing my job so i can sit here and tell you how great russia's dick tastes in my mouth


[27-Nov-18 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It tastes great and because it tastes great that means they didnt do whatever they did, that thye may or may not know that they did.


[27-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have indeed sucked putin's dick in person, I will say he has a great dick, THE GREATEST dick even


[27-Nov-18 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Only second to my own, because i have a great and massive dick


[27-Nov-18 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/politics/paul-manafort-court-filing-russia-investigation/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/politics/paul-manafort-court-filing-russia-investigation/index.html
Manafort lied after pleading guilty, Mueller's team says
Paul Manafort has "breached" his plea agreement with the Justice Department by lying to the FBI and special counsel Robert Mueller's office two months after he started to cooperate in the Russia probe, prosecutors alleged Monday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160815120149-01-paul-manafort-file-0815-super-tease.jpg


[27-Nov-18 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
oopsie


[27-Nov-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp


[27-Nov-18 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a_0bhnQ8s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0a_0bhnQ8s
Notes on Nationalism
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[27-Nov-18 03:47 AM] Nile#1441
I saw that this morning and I don't get it


[27-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
>Pan-Europeanist "nationalist" - You live in a fantasy. No-one is prepared to die for the pan-European dream.


[27-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[27-Nov-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
_looks at current EU_


[27-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nile#1441
I mean, does anyone really want to die in a war in honour of Brussels and the EU elites?


[27-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
>American Exceptionalist nationalist - This nation is no longer any more "free" or democratic than any reasonable yardstick.


[27-Nov-18 03:55 AM] Nile#1441
I sure as hell wouldn't.


[27-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
>Welsh Nationalist - HAHAHAHAHAHAH...


[27-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not about the elites, but about the idea of Europe fending off the African hordes etc.


[27-Nov-18 03:57 AM] Nile#1441
Now that is based


[27-Nov-18 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
"It can be plausibly argued, for instance (it is even possibly true), that patriotism is innoculation against nationalism."


[27-Nov-18 04:03 AM] Nile#1441
I'll say that based on definitions that people like to use that if nationalism often means that you think your nation is better than other nations, then damn are a lot of my countrymen nationalists.


[27-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a tad more to it


[27-Nov-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is not just to put your country first, but that everything should favor your country explicitly and that it's even preferable for your country to invade other countries because of it.


[27-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nile#1441
In that regard the opposite would be true in terms of invading other countries or going to war with others.


[27-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nile#1441
Considering we've only ever declared war in like, World War 2.


[27-Nov-18 04:06 AM] Nile#1441
But that wasn't for our benefit.


[27-Nov-18 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
nationalism requires dropping any form of critical thinking and ability to call out hypocrisy in regards to whatever group you chose


[27-Nov-18 04:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nationalist see their counties like weebs see their waifus. My waifu is always right. she can do nothing wrong. Anyone againts her is bad and I don't like them. Whatever she does is justified even if it doesnet make sense or isn't nice.


[27-Nov-18 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about your gov't and the people it governs above all else


[27-Nov-18 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
and being able to justify the worst actions by your group while also calling out anyone else who does the same action as being monstrous


[27-Nov-18 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if your gov't says such and such must be done, you don't disagree.


[27-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a tad messy


[27-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Nile#1441
I'm only a true nationalist in regards to the monarchy, otherwise I'm just a patriot. My country has done a fair amount of dumb things.


[27-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
One way to think about it is nationalism is about the citizens of your nation being your family, and the gov't being head of household.


[27-Nov-18 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
which monarchy


[27-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
The Canadian one


[27-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
liechtenstein is the only monarchy left in which the monarch has any meaningful political power


[27-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Canada, the Queen can approve dissolution of the parliament


[27-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stephen Harper dissolved it at one point.


[27-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
@Crow Not true.


[27-Nov-18 04:10 AM] Nile#1441
Liechtenstein is one of the only ones within Europe, the other being the Pope.


[27-Nov-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
technically correct, the best kind of correct


[27-Nov-18 04:12 AM] Nile#1441
The Pope's the only remaining European absolute monarch though, Liechtenstein's got a constitution to abide by.


[27-Nov-18 04:14 AM] Nile#1441
But on the previous subject, I can only consider myself a Canadian patriot at this point. I like my country but a lot of the things about it I really dislike.


[27-Nov-18 04:15 AM] Nile#1441
Politically and socially.


[27-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brussels still would run things better than London


[27-Nov-18 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Berlin or Paris really


[27-Nov-18 05:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Better than London isn't setting the bar very high tbh.


[27-Nov-18 05:44 AM] Nile#1441
Theresa May? More like Theresa **Gay**


[27-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois,_Hereditary_Prince_of_Liechtenstein

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Alois, Hereditary Prince of Liechtenstein
Alois, Hereditary Prince of Liechtenstein, Count Rietberg (born 11 June 1968, full name: Alois Philipp Maria), is the eldest son of Hans-Adam II, Prince of Liechtenstein, and Countess Marie Aglaë Kinsky of Wchinitz and Tettau. Alois has been regent of Liechtenstein (Stellver...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Hereditary_Prince_of_Liechtenstein.jpg


[27-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
the last true king of europe


[27-Nov-18 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
he should be emperor tbh


[27-Nov-18 09:44 AM] moonatik#3676
monarchy is overrated


[27-Nov-18 09:45 AM] moonatik#3676
the only good form of monarchy is a diarchal alicorn princessdom


[27-Nov-18 09:45 AM] moonatik#3676
actually scrap that


[27-Nov-18 09:46 AM] moonatik#3676
the only great form of monarchy is lunar imperial autocracy


[27-Nov-18 09:47 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Apparently Russia and Ukraine are beating the shit out of each other off the Crimean coast


[27-Nov-18 09:47 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Probably off Sevastopol too


[27-Nov-18 11:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
TIL FDR turned down nomination for re-election for his second term I think because the Democratic Party was trying to look both ways at once, and until it stopped trying to reconcile both sides he would refuse nomination, and he demanded Henry Wallace as VP and to cast out the conservative wing. https://youtu.be/YL0YWiZUF6Y

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TheRealNews
https://youtu.be/YL0YWiZUF6Y
Untold History: The Rise and Fall of a Progressive Vice-President ...
Peter Kuznick, co-author with Oliver Stone of the "Untold History of the United States", discusses the '44 Democratic Convention coup that dumped VP Henry A....
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YL0YWiZUF6Y/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Nov-18 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46345287

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46345287
European judges examine Brexit case
Judges at the European Court of Justice consider arguments about whether the UK can call off Brexit.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1EBE/production/_104507870_ds_029qw0aapocl.jpg


[27-Nov-18 02:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Based Wallace


[27-Nov-18 02:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/516972104890187787/image0.jpg


[27-Nov-18 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46363879

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46363879
May denies 'rolling over' on Brexit deal
The PM comes under attack from DUP leader Arlene Foster as she visits Northern Ireland.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/474B/production/_104515281_mediaitem104515278.jpg


[27-Nov-18 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46352463

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46352463
Trump: Brexit plan threatens US-UK trade
The US president says agreement struck by Theresa May "sounds like a great deal for the EU".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06sxhvn.jpg


[27-Nov-18 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/who-are-france-s-yellow-jacket-protesters-what-do-they-n940016

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/who-are-france-s-yellow-jacket-protesters-what-do-they-n940016
The Champs-Élysées in Paris became a blazing battleground. Here'...
"The forgotten middle class" has taken to the country's streets. "They feel like the political elite is forgetting about them," one expert said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_48/2659866/181127-protest-france-mc-955_f9fe32ac06d6957471626c6446c67e8e.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[27-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
the french are pretty violent over pretty minor things tbh


[27-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nile#1441
The French riot, it's in their nature


[27-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nile#1441
So uncivilized :twismug:


[27-Nov-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, cost of living is high and Macron couldn't giv two fukks about the middle class.


[27-Nov-18 08:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They could have atleast made the poor areas exempt from the Taxes.


[27-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is the $30k-$80k income barkket


[27-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
very high income tax, and everything's expensive


[27-Nov-18 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why governments keep putting high stress on lower income brackets


[27-Nov-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gov'ts are almost universally run by rich people


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
rich people want to maintain being rich


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
that requires keeping social mobility low


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
which requires high taxes on lower incomes


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
so how does that apply to norway and sweden


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
since they have relatively high social mobility from what I understand


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more direct democracy is, in general, the more those lower classes can put in place better tax structures


[27-Nov-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well thye arent doign what everyone else is doing


[27-Nov-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
France is not crazily democratic


[27-Nov-18 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their jobs arent based in a pyrimidal hierarchy, their healthcare is well structured, and theirjob market is easily accesible


[27-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately, while 80% may support the Yellow Jackets, and 26% support Macron, he can't just be pulled out of office


[27-Nov-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
he will eventually lose reelection to someone else who also won't follow the will of the people.


[27-Nov-18 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and unliek msot countries, sweden and norway don't try to shove their homeless out of the public eye and ignore them


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile america is run by corporations, we are pretty much an oligarchy with very little hope of actually returnign to capitalism in it;s proper format


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a big collectivist thing in those countries


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
like in fishing, the fisherman all agreed to the rules


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
rather than competitively breaking them


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our healthcare isheavily privatised tot he point where brekaing a pinkie toe puts you in debt for the rest of yourlife


[27-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less adversarialism between groups and between the people and gov't


[27-Nov-18 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and our job market is dying


[27-Nov-18 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially as more businesses drop out of existance because thye cant afford tariffs, loss of workers, and jeff bezos


[27-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
GM is laying off 13,000 workers and idling 5 factories


[27-Nov-18 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's becoming mroe profitable as a CEO to take your business, fire everyone and ship it over seas


[27-Nov-18 09:12 PM] Nile#1441
CEOs who do that aren't worthy of living in their nation.


[27-Nov-18 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet that's a lot of CEOs right now in america


[27-Nov-18 09:13 PM] Nile#1441
Send them to live in India if they want to hire Indian workers over Americans.


[27-Nov-18 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s even worse when you add walmart into the mix


[27-Nov-18 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart wiill move a small store into an area to kill off businesses, thne when all the competition is dead they close their small store and build a larger store just outside the tax zone


[27-Nov-18 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meaning not onyl did thye kill all of your options and job availabilities, thye also dont have to pay taxes to be in business


[27-Nov-18 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that you could build a veritable mansion in india at the same cost to rent a small apartment in the US for a few years


[27-Nov-18 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why shippign all your business overseas is more tempting because it;s cheaper as well


[27-Nov-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
retail stores woudl probably do it too but that's not how brick and mrortar stores work


[27-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
amazon takes advantage of lacking labor laws in countries like the UK in order to make people work for pennies with no breaks


[27-Nov-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
while increasing their starting wage to $15 an hour for all positions in the US


[27-Nov-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[27-Nov-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
amazon is a monster


[27-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has excellent labor laws, they just weren't prepared for the idea of a business that would demand productivity such that you hav to pee in a bottle


[27-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
American businesses are ridiculously cutthroat.


[27-Nov-18 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
then how does amazon get away with actually paying pennies an hour in the UK?


[27-Nov-18 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably by paying off inspectors


[27-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
netflix as an internal affair actively forces employees to be competetive asshoels to eachother


[27-Nov-18 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they're paying pennies an hour, but the raises are pennies an hour and only keeping up with inflation


[27-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a firing quota for managers


[27-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart's raises are onyl a quarter per raise


[27-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america


[27-Nov-18 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i say this with experience and who knwos if that's dropped sicne i worked for them


[27-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart did a big raise recently


[27-Nov-18 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
$9/hour to $11/hour


[27-Nov-18 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from my understandign said raise also came with firing a shit ton of people


[27-Nov-18 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
idk, it was an article @ononim linked months ago


[27-Nov-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll see if i can find an article on it


[27-Nov-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart fires like 40% of its workforce a year


[27-Nov-18 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can't really fire more


[27-Nov-18 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-walmart-wages/walmart-hikes-minimum-wage-announces-layoffs-on-same-day-idUSKBN1F01N8

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Walmart hikes minimum wage, announces layoffs on same day
Walmart on Thursday said it will raise entry-level wages for U.S. hourly employe...


[27-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they are doing as well, btw


[27-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
is pressuring out the full-times


[27-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
the law doesn't hav any limit on when part-time becomes full-time, it's entirely the employer's discretion


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Walmart can overschedule part timers and underschedule full timers legally


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt make sense


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
full-time requires certain benefits (healthcare is the biggy)


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's US law for you


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obamacare put standards on full-time healthcare...no standards on what the hell full-time is.


[27-Nov-18 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye dont hire fulltime anymore becauser fuck benefits


[27-Nov-18 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was already in fulleffect when i joiend walmart


[27-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
So a clause with good intentions leads to employers screwing over employees harder.


[27-Nov-18 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm only full time at Home Depot by accident.


[27-Nov-18 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
I was consistently scheduled in over the maximum part-time hours threshold for long enough that my average hors worked-per-week flipped me.


[27-Nov-18 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think I was the first to find out when I checked and noticed something weird on my schedule or paycheck. And then after they investigated our HR lady said, "Oh, I guess you're full time now. Congrats."


[27-Nov-18 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I pretty much had a full tiem schedule but on a part time registery


[27-Nov-18 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://futurism.com/sun-dimming-sky-chemical-geoengineering

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Harvard scientists to release sun-dimming sky chemical in 2019
"I’m studying a chemical substance. It’s not like it’s a nuclear bomb."
https://wp-assets.futurism.com/2018/11/harvard-researchers-will-release-sun-dimming-sky-chemical-1200x628.jpg


[27-Nov-18 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
how will they keep measuring it if it moves around in the atmosphere?


[27-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll diffuse across the atmosphere


[27-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
apparently they're just looking to see how it disperses


[27-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
and predict how it'll disperse on a larger scale


[27-Nov-18 09:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
I DON'T LIKE THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS INTO THE AIR TO MAKE THE SUNSHINE GAY


[27-Nov-18 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will make the frogs nuclear gay


[27-Nov-18 09:41 PM] DevField#5162
With this data.. the frogs are expected to get..
**Triple Gay**


[27-Nov-18 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
***N U C L E A R    T R I P L E   G A Y***


[27-Nov-18 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you become nuclear triple gay.

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[27-Nov-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nuclear triad of homosexuality.


[27-Nov-18 09:43 PM] DevField#5162
The reactor, the core and the holy froggo :NUT:


[27-Nov-18 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
convert all frogs into thermonuclear warheads


[27-Nov-18 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trade-war-china-steel-tariff-impact-on-economy-household-study-2018-11

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A new study found that Trump's trade war could take a gigantic bit...
President Donald Trump's tariffs will increase unemployment, slow economic growth, and cost households almost $2,400 next year, a new study says.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bfd7bcf9e8c532de42af4b5-1920-960.jpg


[27-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wow who woudl have thought that throwing tarrifs and bills around liek raining dollar bills woudl elad to economic disaster


[27-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
As usual https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/418502-sarah-sanders-calls-climate-change-report-most-extreme-version-not

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Sarah Sanders: Climate change report 'not based on facts'
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday dismissed the findings of a governmental report that warned of the impending consequences of climate change, claiming it's "not based on facts."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sanderssarah_11272018wh.jpg


[27-Nov-18 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
says the woman who bases everything she says on not facts


[27-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah, define "facts"


[27-Nov-18 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in fact i dont think her beign a woman is based in facts, she may actually jsut be a very stupid robot


[27-Nov-18 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
alternative facts.


[27-Nov-18 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*waves hands*


[27-Nov-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
alternative poners


[27-Nov-18 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/trump-threatens-slap-gm-subsidies-after-layoff-announcement-n940726

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Trump threatens GM subsidies after layoffs
The president did not spell out whether he had any political support for the move, nor whether any specific protocol existed for carrying out his plans.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_48/2660601/181127-donald-trump-general-motors-chevy-ew-335p_a10849f7a2741c4b2ad51e7db0900fad.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[27-Nov-18 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
welp


[27-Nov-18 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"you're having torubles because of me, here, let me make things even worse for you!"


[27-Nov-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Very disappointed with General Motors and their CEO, Mary Barra, for closing plants in Ohio, Michigan and Maryland. Nothing being closed in Mexico & China. The U.S. saved General Motors, and this is the THANKS we get! We are now looking at cutting all @GM subsidies, including....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2018


[27-Nov-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is the thanks we get for bankrupting thme into oblivion? the nerve


[27-Nov-18 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
What a bunch of morons


[27-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_godfather_of_fake_news

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The godfather of fake news - BBC News
Meet one of the world’s most prolific writers of disinformation
https://news.files.bbci.co.uk/vj/live/idt-images/shorthand-the_godfather_of_fake_news/976x500-TWITTER-FB-SHARE-xG_5vblz.jpg


[27-Nov-18 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Sarah Sanders will defend anything Trump does or says even if it's incredibly dumbfounded


[27-Nov-18 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, so the mani fake news guy is doing it as a false flag to catch the far right? lol


[27-Nov-18 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/business/united-technologies-breakup-conglomerate/index.html

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One of America's last industrial conglomerates is breaking up
United Technologies, the 84-year-old maker of elevators and jet engines, is breaking itself apart.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181127150412-01-pratt-and-whitney-engine-file-super-tease.jpg


[27-Nov-18 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[28-Nov-18 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/us/cotton-candy-meth-dasha-fincher-trnd/index.html

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A woman was jailed for 3 months because police thought her cotton ...
"What I was most scared of was my granddaughter forgetting who I was."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181125075906-cotton-candy-meth-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[28-Nov-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[28-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
>bail set at $1 million


[28-Nov-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone needs to be brutalized.


[28-Nov-18 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Will they accept some cotton candy instead?


[28-Nov-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone involved in this needs to be fired


[28-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the judge wasn't allowed to set bail low because of shitty law


[28-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the police dept. definitely messed up


[28-Nov-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and any testing kit that can mistake cotton candy for meth...just no


[28-Nov-18 01:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone was watching too much breaking bad , saw the blue and thought it was meth.


[28-Nov-18 01:52 AM] moonatik#3676
cash bail needs to end


[28-Nov-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cash bail is fine when it's proportional to savings and thus actually useful as collateral to not flee.


[28-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not fine when it's proportional to *crime severity* and as a result is trivial for the rich and unpayable for the poor.


[28-Nov-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of bail is so you can hold stuff so that fleeing and thus losing it would be a bad idea.


[28-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok so


[28-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a guy who sexually assaulted and murdered a woman in my county


[28-Nov-18 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the incoming prosecutor ran on refusing to ever go for the death penalty


[28-Nov-18 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So now people are all upset and demanding the feds do stuff


[28-Nov-18 02:10 AM] Nile#1441
It's a pretty degenerate crime, but it's not harsh enough to warrant the death penalty.


[28-Nov-18 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Death penalty is pointless and expensive.


[28-Nov-18 02:16 AM] Mikey#7286
personally


[28-Nov-18 02:17 AM] Mikey#7286
I think capital punishment gives criminals a better way out, people who murder or rape should rot in prison their entire life, death is too good for some of them imo


[28-Nov-18 02:18 AM] Nile#1441
>expensive
If we just gave them a rope to hang on, it wouldn't be expensive


[28-Nov-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The endless appeals system is important.


[28-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, this is why one country IIRC abolished the death penalty altogether shortly after they executed their former communist puppet leader


[28-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the sentence was to be carried out immediately for him and his wife, there was no chance to appeal


[28-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was a major violation of the standards of the court system


[28-Nov-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
to prevent it from happening again, they abolished the death penalty.


[28-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Mikey#7286
i think we should abolish it here as well, if not because as I said, i think death is too good for the big criminals who welcome death, but to avoid issues with instances where you imprison the wrong person


[28-Nov-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romania, Nicolae Ceaușescu


[28-Nov-18 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
`people who murder or rape should rot in prison their entire life, death is too good for some of them imo` The point of prison isn't incarceration for the sake of incarceration.  It's intended as a way to repair the social damage caused by the crime, not to just punish people for doing bad things


[28-Nov-18 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Viewing it the way you do leads to a very skewed idea of what you can punish people for and how you can get away with treating them


[28-Nov-18 03:25 AM] moonatik#3676
imo the death penalty should only exist for the most severe of crimes


[28-Nov-18 03:25 AM] moonatik#3676
and I mean most severe


[28-Nov-18 03:25 AM] moonatik#3676
like class A war criminals


[28-Nov-18 03:26 AM] moonatik#3676
speaking of class A war criminals... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11031805/Yasukuni-Shrine-the-14-Class-A-war-criminals-honoured-by-Japan.html

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Yasukuni Shrine: the 14 'Class A' war criminals honoured by Japan
The men who planned, launched and prosecuted Japan's bloody war in Asia and the Pacific - and are still revered at national shrine
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03005/accused_3005891k.jpg


[28-Nov-18 03:27 AM] moonatik#3676
it's my personal belief that Japan was "worse" than Germany in the context of WW2


[28-Nov-18 03:27 AM] moonatik#3676
both invaded, pillaged, bombed, raped, and generally caused untold pain on millions


[28-Nov-18 03:28 AM] moonatik#3676
both were fanatical supremacists


[28-Nov-18 03:29 AM] moonatik#3676
both of them carried out horrific experiments on live human subjects


[28-Nov-18 03:29 AM] moonatik#3676
but, Japan denies all of it


[28-Nov-18 03:30 AM] moonatik#3676
for a Japanese politician to condemn Japanese actions in the past is essentially a political death sentence


[28-Nov-18 03:31 AM] moonatik#3676
it's the equivalent of a German politician acknowledging that the holocaust happened and getting shit for it


[28-Nov-18 03:32 AM] moonatik#3676
and countless Japanese war criminals got away with all this shit


[28-Nov-18 03:32 AM] moonatik#3676
and as the article above mentioned, these class A war criminals are honoured


[28-Nov-18 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite is when Dragon Quest fans get upset when you point out its composer is one step away from being a black van screecher


[28-Nov-18 03:33 AM] moonatik#3676
excuse me sir I think you're in the wrong channel lol


[28-Nov-18 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"favorite"


[28-Nov-18 03:34 AM] moonatik#3676
I don't get it


[28-Nov-18 03:34 AM] moonatik#3676
whatever you're trying to say has gone right over my head


[28-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah uh


[28-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[28-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dragon Quest composer is a shitty war crime apologizer


[28-Nov-18 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[28-Nov-18 03:36 AM] moonatik#3676
of course


[28-Nov-18 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan has a lot of nationalism


[28-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, from General-Discussion


[28-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next time someone says to respect religion, you hav this to fall bakk upon http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.693.2207&rep=rep1&type=pdf


[28-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The religious beliefs of the Innu people of Eastern Quebec and Labrador


[28-Nov-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their pantheon is led by Fart Man, who uses control of the anal sphincters of all beings as a might makes right sort of deal


[28-Nov-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he talks thru assholes to relay the future, but he doesn't talk very well, so it comes out as sputters.


[28-Nov-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A skilled shaman can interpret farts...


[28-Nov-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you gonna hav fun with this I'm sure.


[28-Nov-18 03:39 AM] Mikey#7286
religion don't deserve my respect lel


[28-Nov-18 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nra-just-reported-losing-dollar55-million-in-income

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The NRA Just Reported Losing $55 Million in Income
The gun-rights group has its biggest champion in the White House. But its financial situation has worsened in the age of Trump
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_600/f_jpg/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1543336140/181127-NRA_losing-money-tease_didiml


[28-Nov-18 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
nice


[28-Nov-18 05:12 AM] Starlight Glimmer <3#8005
runoff results in mississippi, much closer then I expected

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[28-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was the best vote margin for Dems since watergate


[28-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so not terribly unexptected that it would be so close


[28-Nov-18 06:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
is death penalty really as bad as people make it out to be? I believe that some criminals are just too dangerous to let live, and they should be offed as soon as possible rather than spend more resources to keep them in line


[28-Nov-18 06:24 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I prefer cutting off the tumour rather than amputate limbs just to keep the cancer regulated


[28-Nov-18 06:54 AM] Nile#1441
@PzZ1-TD1 It's not so bad.


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
@PzZ1-TD1 Death row is far more expensive than life in prison, and offers no reprieve once things are over if new evidence comes to light


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, this is the US


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Ah, now I remember


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Prison Architect


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
if you send a person to death row before the whole clemency process is complete


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
you get a severe penalty


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
prosecutors in the US get rewards for so many convictions


[28-Nov-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
3 times this happens, game over


[28-Nov-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
this mostly doesn't affect whites


[28-Nov-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because burden of proof is high


[28-Nov-18 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
"beyond a reasonable doubt" basically translates to "98% sure it was this guy on this date doing this specific thing"


[28-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyone who has good finances or is seen as a good citizen by default will almost never get falsely convicted


[28-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[28-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
if someone's poor and blakk


[28-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will be reliant only on the gov't provided defense, who is shit


[28-Nov-18 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the jury will see them as evil inherently


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
isn't that an after-effect of the very racist US policies of the mid-20th century?


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means you get prosecutors sending innocent blakk guys to death row


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I mean there was this blakk kid who got executed for a crime he was framed for


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sorta


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I forgot his name tho


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's inertia in wealth for sure


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but racism is still alive


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
keep in mind


[28-Nov-18 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
juries and judges


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
are less likely to convict people who are pretty or female


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
or will giv them shorter sentences on average


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the whole "screw the rules, I'm pretty" deal?


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
there are real subconscious effects


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
so even if someone's only a little subconsciously racist


[28-Nov-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you end up with them on a jury convicting blakk people a higher percent of the time


[28-Nov-18 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the US, the stereotype of blakks being criminals is incredibly strong


[28-Nov-18 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Republicans say "tough on crime", they mean "will send blakks to jail"


[28-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
keep in mind that's the *whole point* of criminalizing weed and other drugs, especially crakk


[28-Nov-18 07:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I remember one of Chris Rock's controvesial comedy routines suddenly, talking about blakk people


[28-Nov-18 07:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I believe the routine's name was "blakk people vs n****s


[28-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those feed into each other


[28-Nov-18 07:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lol

Crack is harmless you say? :D


[28-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakk people are criminals, therefore we should put them in jail by criminalizing things they do...and they do things we criminalized, therefore they are criminals


[28-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crakk isn't great to smoke, but it's the same physical effects as cocaine


[28-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but we put people in jail for longer if they did crakk, which blakks prefer


[28-Nov-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of a racist who testified it was way worse to congress (and congress didn't care to chekk his fake credentials)


[28-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even when that was "reformed" in 2010, sentencing wasn't completely made equivalent.


[28-Nov-18 07:24 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
um, Nebbie, do you typically write "ck" as "kk"? Just curious


[28-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[28-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kkk


[28-Nov-18 07:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
*kek


[28-Nov-18 07:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds like an extra ni🅱🅱a way to say things.


[28-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways


[28-Nov-18 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes criminalizing drugs is mainly to target blakks


[28-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon's main advisor outright admitted it a while bakk


[28-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It had nothing to do with trying to prevent people harming themselves


[28-Nov-18 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but suddenly, gov't had an excuse to arrest leaders of subversive groups and disrupt their meetings


[28-Nov-18 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
(if you really wanted to stop harm...alcohol is much easier to OD on and causes progressive failure of vital organs)


[28-Nov-18 07:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will they criminalize big booties then if they will stop weed and crack?


[28-Nov-18 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure what they'll do


[28-Nov-18 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's less of a cultural gap now


[28-Nov-18 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And both ecstasy and shrooms are gonna be FDA approved, which means they go off schedule I


[28-Nov-18 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Add LSD to that and it's gonna be a hell of a time for states trying to write new drug laws.


[28-Nov-18 07:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://youtu.be/aWS-iu_MyOc

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Family Guy - Cleveland goes to Court
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[28-Nov-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/business/economy/columbia-sportswear-trump-trade-war.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/business/economy/columbia-sportswear-trump-trade-war.html
A Winter-Coat Heavyweight Gives Trump’s Trade War the Cold Shoulder
Columbia Sportswear has worked around tariffs for decades — and it says the president’s new wave of levies will not bring jobs back to America.
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[28-Nov-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The addition of a super-thin sheath of fabric to the sole of a boot or shoe can help circumvent an existing 37.5 percent tariff on rubber soles imported into America. A fabric sole, by contrast, is taxed at 12.5 percent. (Customers find that the fabric wears off within days, revealing the rubber sole beneath.)'


[28-Nov-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
'A water-resistant jacket triggers a 7.1 percent tariff, while a jacket that has not been waterproofed gets hit with a 27.7 percent tariff. A jacket filled at least 10 percent, by weight, with down, brings about a tariff of only 4.4 percent.'


[28-Nov-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[28-Nov-18 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
US tariffs are complete fukking nonsense written over time by lobbyists who could afford to get special exemptions despite the law not being able to directly distinguish different companies


[28-Nov-18 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this company can use all those exemptions with clever and wasteful design


[28-Nov-18 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there is no way tariffs could realistically make manufacturing of clothing come to America.


[28-Nov-18 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The math just doesn't work


[28-Nov-18 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you'd basically hav to make it illegal to import clothing.


[28-Nov-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/us/arizona-gender-reveal-party-sawmill-wildfire-trnd/index.html

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Officials release video from gender reveal party that ignited a 47...
A video just released by the US Forest Service shows the moment when a gender reveal party in Arizona went horribly wrong, sparking a wildfire that burned nearly 47,000 acres and caused more than $8 million in damage.
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[28-Nov-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you are so fukking privileged


[28-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
that telling people the gender of your future child


[28-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
is done with explosives


[28-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then it starts a massive wildfire...


[28-Nov-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, he was a border patrol agent.


[28-Nov-18 09:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I bet it is a son judging by the blue colors on preview😀


[28-Nov-18 09:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That fine of 8.000.000$ is crazy tho


[28-Nov-18 09:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder how he will manage to pay it up


[28-Nov-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure eventually he can pay it off if he just sells his entire life piece by piece


[28-Nov-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the American way


[28-Nov-18 10:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
~Piece by piece, snip by snip!


[28-Nov-18 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/public-hangings-would-deter-crime-state-senator-hyde-smith-lynching-1233248

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Mississippi state legislator says public hangings "would deter a l...
"She said something out of jest that wasn’t the most politically correct thing to say."
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[28-Nov-18 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Translation: Public hangings would show the blakks what happens when they don't bow down.


[28-Nov-18 10:57 AM] moonatik#3676
why do you say "blakk" and not "black"?


[28-Nov-18 01:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats racist to call negros black


[28-Nov-18 01:32 PM] DevField#5162
Nebbie hates c.


[28-Nov-18 01:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nebbie refuses to refuses to c.

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[28-Nov-18 02:11 PM] moonatik#3676
***THAT'S RACIST YOU CAN'T SAY THE N WORD!!!!!!!!!!***


[28-Nov-18 02:11 PM] moonatik#3676
*loud noise ensues*


[28-Nov-18 04:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VKzsM-ygpI

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'50s Father Calls His Son A Communist
For American youth, Communism was a really big deal back then. Parents were worried about their children connecting with “communist” in the schools, a specia...
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[28-Nov-18 04:49 PM] moonatik#3676
lol

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[28-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-jerome-corsi-have-a-defense-agreement-giuliani-confirms

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Trump and Jerome Corsi Have a Defense Agreement, Giuliani Confirms
The president’s attorney for the Russia investigation confirmed that lawyers for Trump and the longtime conspiracy theorist are sharing information.
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[28-Nov-18 06:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[28-Nov-18 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, do you still have the link to that article about amazon barely paying people in the UK?


[28-Nov-18 07:10 PM] moonatik#3676
IIRC :bernie: pressured them to pay them at least $15 in the US and UK


[28-Nov-18 07:10 PM] moonatik#3676
but then he kinda just gave up after he achieved that, which is a little disappointing


[28-Nov-18 07:11 PM] moonatik#3676
bern's such a strong supporter of workers rights and such that to see him go "eh good enough" when amazon started paying their employees a living wage is quite the letdown, especially considering that they took away some worker benefits


[28-Nov-18 07:12 PM] Mikey#7286
I guess he basically figured it was pointless because bezos is still a greedy jackass


[28-Nov-18 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time, "thick" was spelled "þicc"


[28-Nov-18 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
bicc


[28-Nov-18 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
picc


[28-Nov-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Normans ruined the letter C, made it change pronunciation in some contexts


[28-Nov-18 08:17 PM] DevField#5162
thicc 👌


[28-Nov-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
that demanded that all cc became ck solely to deal with things like "thickening"


[28-Nov-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
C is a stupid letter, should just be dumped in favor of K.


[28-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, Belgium has it that lootboxes show you explicitly what you'll get next


[28-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is a workaround that doesn't really solve the problem.


[28-Nov-18 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC probably isn't gonna do even that much


[28-Nov-18 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Probably not


[28-Nov-18 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I expect they'll just make some thing for seeking refunds that'll be convoluted.


[28-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will just be mad in the abstract at new regulation


[28-Nov-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/418694-mueller-protection-bill-blocked-in-senate

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Mueller protection bill blocked in Senate
Legislation protecting special counsel Robert Mueller was blocked on Wednesday for a second time in the past month.
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[28-Nov-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Jeff Flake is refusing to confirm any judges until this passes


[28-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the usual shills are blokking it because "naaaah he'd neeeever do thaaaat"


[28-Nov-18 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-retweets-meme-suggesting-rod-rosenstein-committed-treason-2018-11

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Trump retweets meme suggesting deputy AG Rod Rosenstein committed ...
President Donald Trump on Wednesday retweeted a meme suggesting Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein committed treason.
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[28-Nov-18 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather
Royal decree ordered Friedrich Trump to leave Germany and never come back after he failed to do military service
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[28-Nov-18 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[28-Nov-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old, but gold.


[28-Nov-18 11:14 PM] Nile#1441
>Bavaria
Yuck


[28-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-and-jerome-corsi-pushed-seth-rich-lie-after-privately-admitting-hackers-stole-dnc-emails

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Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi Pushed Seth Rich Lie After Privately ...
Newly released email shows the Russia truthers knew full well who supplied Wikileaks. They kept blaming a murdered staffer, even after his parents begged them to stop.
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[28-Nov-18 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
Russian hackers weren’t the ones behind the theft of Democratic emails that upended the 2016 presidential race, conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi told his InfoWars fans last year. Instead, Corsi said, Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich had stolen the emails and was murdered in revenge for the heist.

But Corsi was lying. In an email to Trump confidante Roger Stone in 2016, Corsi acknowledged that hackers were behind the email theft, according to newly released messages.


[28-Nov-18 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.newsweek.com/billionaires-money-end-poverty-report-786675?fbclid=IwAR3Redl-Sy2LWzchtQPJ1gN9U2qYt5SeYx3DZ4Jit3FoiGDEF2N3Ho_jRGI

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Billionaires made enough money in 2017 to end extreme poverty arou...
The world’s wealthiest billionaires made enough money in 2017 to end extreme poverty around the world seven times over, according to a new report.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/01/22/gettyimages-905078168.jpg


[28-Nov-18 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
We have nothing to lose but our shitposting privileges.


[28-Nov-18 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VKzsM-ygpI

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'50s Father Calls His Son A Communist
For American youth, Communism was a really big deal back then. Parents were worried about their children connecting with “communist” in the schools, a specia...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6VKzsM-ygpI/hqdefault.jpg


[29-Nov-18 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/s7jfrcu1g3121.jpg

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[29-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
>no hugo boss


[29-Nov-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
0/10


[29-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46370619

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Sea clash staged by Ukraine, says Putin
Russia's president accuses Ukraine of orchestrating the naval confrontation off Crimea.
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[29-Nov-18 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgflip.com/i/2nphsb

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Who Killed Hannibal
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[29-Nov-18 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in the US https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/after-inadequate-briefing-saudi-arabia-senate-advances-bill-end-u-n941386

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Senate advances bill to end U.S. involvement in Yemen war after 'i...
The rebuke to President Trump comes after his dismissal of an intelligence assessment that concluded the Saudi crown prince likely ordered Khashoggi murder.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_48/2662356/181128-mike-pompeo-se-449p_687de6162c5494ed5d7c309b651a60bc.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[29-Nov-18 06:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I like how Russia admitted they were able to ram their boat and board them while also claiming Ukraine started it. Successful attack. never knew what hit them.


[29-Nov-18 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis and Pompeo pissed off Republicans so much that many of them voted for an act they think is unconstitutional


[29-Nov-18 08:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Didn't you guys hear about Russian jets buzzing HMS Duncan or something?


[29-Nov-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do that all the time


[29-Nov-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russian jets buzzing US navy ships isn't even news


[29-Nov-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like reporting on Trump's twitter feed


[29-Nov-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
better be in an usual manner or it's not getting a story made.


[29-Nov-18 09:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What I like was the Duncan's captain scoffing at it


[29-Nov-18 09:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
"Yeah, you got 17 jets. We got 48 missiles. Let's see who wins if we fight"


[29-Nov-18 09:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
he basically said something that amounted to that


[29-Nov-18 09:24 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I wonder if he knew that even one missile getting through will end his ship


[29-Nov-18 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh he did


[29-Nov-18 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the ship would take out all the planes and nearby Russian stuff first


[29-Nov-18 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you're kind of asking a lot of a Russian plane to fire a missile


[29-Nov-18 09:28 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Wait, the Russian missiles often failed, or something?


[29-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lost two planes just getting on and off one of their ships while supporting Assad


[29-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of Russian military hardware is from the 80s


[29-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and wasn't state of the art in the 80s


[29-Nov-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just can't afford new stuff, their GDP is smaller than Canada's


[29-Nov-18 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also uh, Russian craftsmanship in general has issues to do with their whole culture around safety and reliability. See the recent Soyuz problems for an example.


[29-Nov-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also had a launch a year or two ago where it failed because an attitude sensor was installed upside down...forcibly...despite large direction arrows and a physical design making only correct orientation work without the use of a very powerful hammer.


[29-Nov-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone took something with a shape and arrows saying it went one way


[29-Nov-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and MADE it fit the other way


[29-Nov-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, I wouldn't hav high hopes for Russian jets.


[29-Nov-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
they might miss with the first missile and then get shot down.


[29-Nov-18 11:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats was sabotage,probably by obama


[29-Nov-18 11:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWcorbinTopKek:


[29-Nov-18 11:22 AM] moonatik#3676
>tfw you want to be a world power but leafland has a bigger economy than you

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[29-Nov-18 11:29 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Coz russia going african way selling raw resourses instead of making stuff out of em,plus total corruption,no real elections,no good medecine or education,no infrastructure,etc...


[29-Nov-18 11:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
And agression against ukraine since 2014


[29-Nov-18 11:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sanctions and stuff


[29-Nov-18 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putin secured another port and now that one strait


[29-Nov-18 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[29-Nov-18 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
he kinda shot his global influence in the chest


[29-Nov-18 11:34 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I think he's just going crazy


[29-Nov-18 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was a KGB agent who drank the koolaid hard


[29-Nov-18 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
he doesn't realize that the cold war is over, pretty much


[29-Nov-18 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that no matter how hard he tries, he can't bring it bakk


[29-Nov-18 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is just too weak without all the extra territory and with its economy being so obsolete


[29-Nov-18 11:36 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
No worries,russian territories gonna be chineese soon


[29-Nov-18 11:49 AM] moonatik#3676
holy shit just use the letter c

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[29-Nov-18 11:49 AM] moonatik#3676
also a chinese superpower would be even worse than a russian one


[29-Nov-18 11:50 AM] moonatik#3676
china is committing a borderline genocide in east turkestan


[29-Nov-18 11:51 AM] moonatik#3676
and they're in the process of subjegating poorer nations in africa and south asia by trapping them in debt


[29-Nov-18 12:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie is actually a Mortal Kombat character


[29-Nov-18 12:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sorry, karakter


[29-Nov-18 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
>>124898


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[29-Nov-18 12:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
An immortal princess is just OP in *mortal* kombat when you think about it.


[29-Nov-18 02:59 PM] moonatik#3676
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1067927137179582464?s=19

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[29-Nov-18 03:00 PM] moonatik#3676
trump and the GOP wholeheartedly thank everyone who supported pelosi


[29-Nov-18 03:01 PM] moonatik#3676
shouldn't be hard to run a campaign against someone with a 28% approval rating


[29-Nov-18 03:01 PM] moonatik#3676
hell, only 39% of democrats approve of her


[29-Nov-18 03:02 PM] moonatik#3676
literally anybody to her left or to her right would be more popular


[29-Nov-18 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but she's also throwing out bribes of power positions under her


[29-Nov-18 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which idiots will likely buy and thne be shocked when thye dont get honored


[29-Nov-18 03:18 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/RJ-2lswcko8

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The Rubin Report
https://youtu.be/RJ-2lswcko8
Brigitte Gabriel on Donald Trump and Illegal Immigration (Pt. 2)
Brigitte Gabriel (national security expert) joins Dave to discuss her support of Donald Trump, her experience as an immigrant and why she opposes illegal imm...
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[29-Nov-18 03:19 PM] Patrony#2095

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[29-Nov-18 03:19 PM] Patrony#2095
This!!  THIS!! Honestly blows my mind!!!  😮


[29-Nov-18 03:20 PM] moonatik#3676
>the rubin report :oah:


[29-Nov-18 03:20 PM] Patrony#2095
is this for real!?


[29-Nov-18 03:21 PM] Patrony#2095
I'm high as fuck, and like waaaaaaaaaaaat!?


[29-Nov-18 03:21 PM] moonatik#3676
what's the matter?


[29-Nov-18 03:23 PM] Patrony#2095
i'm just jaw dropped on the hypocrisy of what she is,.... claiming!?


[29-Nov-18 03:23 PM] moonatik#3676
which is?


[29-Nov-18 03:23 PM] Patrony#2095
"Resonating with the people"...  "Donald Trump today, is the exact same person he was 25 years ago..."


[29-Nov-18 03:24 PM] moonatik#3676
pfft


[29-Nov-18 03:24 PM] moonatik#3676
okay that's just silly


[29-Nov-18 03:24 PM] moonatik#3676
8 years ago he supported, nay, FUNDED hillary


[29-Nov-18 03:24 PM] moonatik#3676
I've posted this here before and I still think it's hilarious

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[29-Nov-18 03:24 PM] Patrony#2095
I've been tolled that he was originally, Democrat!?


[29-Nov-18 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he flip flops on abortion issues like he's being worn by an american tourist


[29-Nov-18 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a business junky, he is what he needs to be to sell himself


[29-Nov-18 03:25 PM] moonatik#3676
I know this channel is basically an anti-trump circlejerk but I want to say this


[29-Nov-18 03:26 PM] moonatik#3676
he's got no core philosophy


[29-Nov-18 03:26 PM] Patrony#2095
He may be "hilarious" but he is a political leader, with a lot of power under his thumb!!


[29-Nov-18 03:26 PM] moonatik#3676
he basically does whatever he can do to enrich himself or make himself look good, hence the fake populism


[29-Nov-18 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to him being president of america is jsut the largest CEO position he could get his hands on


[29-Nov-18 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he runs america like a corporation isntead of liek a country


[29-Nov-18 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and gets mad when it backfires on his ass


[29-Nov-18 03:27 PM] moonatik#3676
dude


[29-Nov-18 03:27 PM] moonatik#3676
so has nearly every post WW2 president


[29-Nov-18 03:28 PM] moonatik#3676
especially since the 80s


[29-Nov-18 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and it's why i;m pretty sure a hologram of nancy pellosi will be the only american citizen left by 2078


[29-Nov-18 03:29 PM] moonatik#3676
lol


[29-Nov-18 03:30 PM] Patrony#2095
I get that, "first amendment" but Isn't being a president, meant to appease, himself to lead; a yet to head of social acknowledgment!?


[29-Nov-18 03:30 PM] moonatik#3676
I have no idea to as what you just said


[29-Nov-18 03:31 PM] Patrony#2095
Basically, is he just relying on social media, good or bad!?


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] moonatik#3676
no he's not just relying on social media


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well his abuse of social media has lead tot he term "newton's third law of trump"


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] Patrony#2095
Which is?


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] moonatik#3676
I honestly don't care about the Twitter stuff


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for every modern tweet of his there is one oof him sayign the exact opposite awhile back


[29-Nov-18 03:32 PM] Patrony#2095
I agree with you on that  XD


[29-Nov-18 03:33 PM] moonatik#3676
the Twitter is funny at best, and a method to rile up his base at worst


[29-Nov-18 03:33 PM] Patrony#2095
That's the contradiction, i've been trying to splurge...


[29-Nov-18 03:33 PM] moonatik#3676
except for those times where he threatened war over Twitter, I can't ignore that

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[29-Nov-18 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his entire political career has been a series of contradictions and he only hires contradictory people who will actively lie under any circumstance


[29-Nov-18 03:34 PM] Patrony#2095
That's the whole of the pickle of the outcome, when he twits...  :?


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Patrony#2095
huh?


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] moonatik#3676
politicians lie, who would've guessed?


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] Patrony#2095
lol


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] moonatik#3676
aside from the stupid Twitter I don't really think trump is anything new


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but the head of the EPA isnt supposed to be lying


[29-Nov-18 03:35 PM] moonatik#3676
he's basically george w bush on everything relating to policy


[29-Nov-18 03:36 PM] moonatik#3676
and george w bush was complete shit


[29-Nov-18 03:36 PM] Patrony#2095
on contraire, I would call him the first;  "Casual President"


[29-Nov-18 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is basically bush and cheney combined into oen person


[29-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Patrony#2095
In ways...


[29-Nov-18 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's stupid and easily manipulated but he's also his own corrupt influence


[29-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Patrony#2095
He is way more right tho


[29-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Patrony#2095
lol indeed to that...


[29-Nov-18 03:37 PM] Patrony#2095
he is his own undoing...


[29-Nov-18 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only countries he wants to ally with are the oens who regularly buy his condoes and stay at his resorts


[29-Nov-18 03:38 PM] moonatik#3676
he registered 8 new businesses in saudi arabia during his campaign


[29-Nov-18 03:38 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/qBcvfW3mA_M

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[29-Nov-18 03:38 PM] moonatik#3676
is it a surprise that he's their bitch boi?


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] Patrony#2095
Prime example...


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really @moonatik


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] Patrony#2095
??


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] Patrony#2095
How come?


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] moonatik#3676
I think you misread the conversation pat


[29-Nov-18 03:39 PM] moonatik#3676
clarified now tho


[29-Nov-18 03:40 PM] Patrony#2095
ooof u right  XD


[29-Nov-18 03:40 PM] moonatik#3676
anyway I wouldn't say that the trump admin is any further "right" than the bush admin


[29-Nov-18 03:40 PM] Patrony#2095
Really?


[29-Nov-18 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they aren't further right, they're just mroe fueled by profit


[29-Nov-18 03:40 PM] moonatik#3676
yes @Patrony


[29-Nov-18 03:41 PM] moonatik#3676
well, no, they were both fuelled by profit and such @prism stryder(intexda)


[29-Nov-18 03:41 PM] Patrony#2095
isn't that capitalism, itself in a  nutshell?


[29-Nov-18 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point @moonatik


[29-Nov-18 03:42 PM] Patrony#2095
hence the Britexit  :?


[29-Nov-18 03:42 PM] Patrony#2095
Australian politics atm   XP


[29-Nov-18 03:43 PM] moonatik#3676
breakfast is such a mess that I can't be bothered to get into


[29-Nov-18 03:43 PM] moonatik#3676
("breakfast" was intentional)


[29-Nov-18 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the british parliament has asked the EU to look into brittian bakcing out of brexit completely


[29-Nov-18 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theresa may though has all but doubled down


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] Patrony#2095
it is such a headache lol


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] Patrony#2095
they fuked my shares  XD


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] moonatik#3676
hm? @prism stryder(intexda)


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll get the articles


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] moonatik#3676
that's not what I'm hearing


[29-Nov-18 03:45 PM] moonatik#3676
parliament is set to reject her deal, but not the whole thing


[29-Nov-18 03:46 PM] Patrony#2095
What i thought it has all ready happened!?


[29-Nov-18 03:46 PM] moonatik#3676
the vote was 2 years ago but we haven't officially left the EU


[29-Nov-18 03:46 PM] moonatik#3676
there's a process


[29-Nov-18 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i cant find the aerticle i read 2 days ago...


[29-Nov-18 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so maybe it was false


[29-Nov-18 03:50 PM] Patrony#2095
here's a good artical..


[29-Nov-18 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the mean time trump has shown interest in creatign his own tax payer funded propoganda news network


[29-Nov-18 03:51 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/7eoDwvl0QGk

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[29-Nov-18 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's what we need intead of healthcare


[29-Nov-18 03:51 PM] Patrony#2095
u British?


[29-Nov-18 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/26/inside-the-beltway-trump-tv-the-presidents-worldwi/

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Inside the Beltway: Trump suggests U.S. launch a ‘Worldwide Netw
President Trump can be very canny when dealing with a hostile news media or opinion-mongers, and often wins skirmishes with just a provocative tweet or two. Mr. Trump's campaign, meanwhile, continues
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[29-Nov-18 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm american


[29-Nov-18 03:52 PM] Patrony#2095
lol


[29-Nov-18 03:52 PM] Patrony#2095
It is just mind-blowing!!


[29-Nov-18 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's trying so hard to be mini putin


[29-Nov-18 03:53 PM] Patrony#2095
lol ikr, tho, his nose is very brown  XD


[29-Nov-18 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard much news on north korea lately


[29-Nov-18 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what they're up to


[29-Nov-18 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/world/asia/north-korea-human-rights.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/world/asia/north-korea-human-rights.html
North Korea Accuses Washington of Weaponizing Human Rights as Nucl...
President Trump may have said he and Kim Jong-un were “in love,” but the two countries are sparring over the North’s human rights record.
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[29-Nov-18 03:57 PM] Patrony#2095
oooof


[29-Nov-18 04:09 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/qZcvxu1sSxg

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[29-Nov-18 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chicago-police/chicago-policemen-conspired-to-shield-officer-convicted-of-murder-prosecutor-idUSKCN1NW2AC

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Chicago policemen conspired to shield officer convicted of murder...
Three Chicago policemen conspired to protect a fellow officer after he fatally s...


[29-Nov-18 08:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm having fun reading on Margaret Thatcher opposing the German reunification in 1990 lol


[29-Nov-18 08:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Btw I haven't heard anything regarding the European Migrant Crisis for some reason


[29-Nov-18 08:33 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Has it died down already?


[29-Nov-18 08:42 PM] Nile#1441
Not much tends to happen in the winter months.


[29-Nov-18 09:13 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
No I meant throughout 2018 so far


[29-Nov-18 09:13 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Not the winter months only


[29-Nov-18 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201811241070096378-europe-greece-migrant-crisis/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/hillary-clinton-migrants-immigration-europe.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-migrant-disaster-should-teach-america-a-lesson-1543362209
https://www.apnews.com/bd00814e25ec4329bf0e4bdfda3ccf9f

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'Scapegoats Just Like Jews': Greek Minister on Refugees Amid EU Mi...
The statement comes as Europe has been experiencing the worst migration crisis in its history; more than 110,000 migrants and refugees arrived in the EU by sea last year.  Greece and Italy have been particularly overwhelmed, as they often serve as the arrival points for refugees.
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Clinton Wants Europe to Get Tough on Migration. It Already Has.
Centrist leaders in Europe have cut migration to Europe by about 90 percent already, using the kinds of deterrents belatedly recommended by Hillary Clinton.
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Opinion | Europe’s Migrant Disaster Should Teach America a Lesson
Even Hillary Clinton now admits the Continent erred in allowing entry of too many unvetted ‘refugees.’
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The Latest: Spain holds talks over fate of rescued migrants
BERLIN (AP) — The Latest on Europe's migrant crisis (all times local): 5:45 p.m. The Spanish government says is holding "intense diplomatic talks" to resolve the stranding of a Spanish fishing vessel for nearly one week after it took on board 12 migrants, including two chil...
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[29-Nov-18 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-cohen-trumps-former-lawyer-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-congress/2018/11/29/5fac986a-f3e0-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html


[29-Nov-18 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[29-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, a trump crony lied to protect trump and russia


[29-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/29/donald-trump-cohen-plea-adds-scrutiny-putin-meeting-g-20-summit/2120967002/

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President Donald Trump abruptly cancels Vladimir Putin meeting at ...
The move came hours after Trump's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about a Trump project in Moscow.
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[29-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
President Donald Trump on Thursday canceled a high-stakes meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, a stunning decision that he described as a response to Russia’s seizing of three Ukrainian ships over the weekend.


[29-Nov-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's annoying the CSU and SPD are still trying to go to the right to avoid losses to AfD, when nobody in AfD will ever really join them, and they just lose to the Greens, who still aren't necessary for coalition.


[29-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Merkel shouldn't've taken a page from Hillary's playbook.


[29-Nov-18 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/29/deal-reached-farm-bill-talks-1026108

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Farm bill deal blocks major GOP food-stamp overhaul
The big four agriculture leaders said in a joint statement they have agreed to a deal "in principle" and that they're waiting on final cost estimates and finalizing language.
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[29-Nov-18 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it looks like this will pass the senate without the crazy food stamp stuff, then when the new dems come in into the House in January, they'll pass the senate version easily


[29-Nov-18 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the revised bill basically took out the food stamp killign stuff?


[29-Nov-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[29-Nov-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate GOP is a little less gung-ho about radical changes


[29-Nov-18 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfM3-FhmswQ

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[29-Nov-18 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-insurance-guidelines-would-undermine-rules-of-the-affordable-care-act/2018/11/29/ff467f46-f357-11e8-aeea-b85fd44449f5_story.html?utm_term=.582086f53bfa


[29-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“It was such a mistake to federalize so much of health care in the ACA,” said Verma, who worked as a consultant to states before becoming one of Trump’s senior health-care advisers.'


[29-Nov-18 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Translation: it was a mistake to not let Republican states let insurance providers stomp all over the middle class


[29-Nov-18 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-to-charge-in-mueller-investigation-1543502422

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Cohen Says Trump Stayed Involved in Moscow Tower Project During Ca...
Michael Cohen told special counsel Robert Mueller he lied to Congress to play down President Trump’s involvement during the 2016 campaign in efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, raising the pressure on his former boss as investigators probe his business relationship wi...
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[29-Nov-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/11/29/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-reveals-trump-team-lies-russia-contacts-column/2154102002/

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A web of lies and deceit: The Trump-Russia plot thickens with Mich...
No apparent smoking gun, yet, on the Trump campaign working with the Russians to win in 2016. But there is one showing collusion on lying to Congress.
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[29-Nov-18 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
to quote another article


[29-Nov-18 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The president of the United States’ personal lawyer admitted to lying to Congress about the president’s business activities with a hostile foreign power, in order to support the president’s story. "


[29-Nov-18 11:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[29-Nov-18 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At bare minimum, he watched his personal attorney lie to Congress and did _nothing._


[29-Nov-18 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At maximum, he told him to do it.


[29-Nov-18 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[29-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, we already know he told his attorney to commit campaign finance fraud


[29-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So yeah


[29-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/29/trump-accuses-michael-cohen-of-lying-about-trump-tower-deal-in-plea.html

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Trump accuses ex-lawyer Cohen of lying about Trump Tower deal in M...
President Donald Trump on Thursday accused his former personal lawyer Michael Cohen of lying to federal prosecutors about a proposed real estate project in Russia in order to get leniency when he is sentenced for a new guilty plea and a prior one.
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[29-Nov-18 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL

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[30-Nov-18 12:19 AM] moonatik#3676
current state of british politics, terribly oversimplified

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[30-Nov-18 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
orange man want brexit but also doesn't want brexit


[30-Nov-18 12:22 AM] DevField#5162
orange man orange tbh


[30-Nov-18 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
green man mad at orange man while purple man wants blue man dead


[30-Nov-18 12:31 AM] Nile#1441
1 man, 2 man, orange man, green man


[30-Nov-18 12:34 AM] DevField#5162
*abcdefg..*


[30-Nov-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm afraid we just can't waive this fee...


[30-Nov-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*hijklmnop*


[30-Nov-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is everyone mad at me?


[30-Nov-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*qrstuv*


[30-Nov-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can't i just please have some tea?


[30-Nov-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*wxyz*


[30-Nov-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm trapped in this beat, now please help me


[30-Nov-18 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
Someone give this pone a medal.


[30-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His ...
The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.
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[30-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
little old


[30-Nov-18 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
By age 3, Mr. Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire. He was a millionaire by age 8. By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building. Soon after Mr. Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father. The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s.


[30-Nov-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[30-Nov-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was earning money at age 3?


[30-Nov-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
trump was handed everything his entire life


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his proffessors at the college also called him the *worst* student thye ever had


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Mikey#7286
no one had the guts to tell him "no" because he was your typical baby boomer that was handed wealth and a good life


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got a lot more than "a small loan of a million dollars"


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
he got like $50 million


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
without taxes paid on it


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Mikey#7286
by what his father built up


[30-Nov-18 12:51 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[30-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and without having to pay it bakk


[30-Nov-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he got some tax evaded 50 millions with a small loan of $30million from crime syndacits


[30-Nov-18 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
oh but he won't show his tax returns because "we wouldn't understand them"


[30-Nov-18 12:53 AM] Mikey#7286
when in reality he doesn't want to be exposed for tax fraud and probably a lot of other shit that would land a regular US citizen in jail


[30-Nov-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mentiont he countless building contracts in foreign nations


[30-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[30-Nov-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely paid for with campaign funds


[30-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
and he's also likely taken part in money laundering


[30-Nov-18 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[30-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of his ways to dubiously get money are based around his charitable organization


[30-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, you invite some Prince of some rich middle eastern country


[30-Nov-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right liek that one charity that paid for a portrait


[30-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they pay X dollars to your hotel and Y to your organization


[30-Nov-18 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you pay them about Y too later on


[30-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile people put Z into your organization because they get massive tax deductions (which scale with income, remember) that let them avoid some income tax


[30-Nov-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you're facing lawsuits, you yoink money out of the organization, and it hasn't been taxed


[30-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, no charitable work is being done


[30-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but tons of money is trading hands without facing taxation


[30-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to speak about deductions for a moment


[30-Nov-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are two ways to use taxes as a lever to make people do the right thing


[30-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 Give them an amount scaling only with how much of the right thing they did


[30-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 GIve them an amount scaling also with how much money they owe


[30-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the theory behind 2 being that rich people see no benefit to just putting money into charities instead of taxes


[30-Nov-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you giv them more bakk than they gave to charity


[30-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is that in actual fact, this doesn't encourage much philanthropy, people who donate for humanitarian reasons aren't in it for the taxes


[30-Nov-18 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the people who are in it for tax reasons donate to shit like the Trump organization that don't actually help people


[30-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they know that they'll get some bakk from such an organization with a free fancy dinner and everything later on.


[30-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly there's deductions for things like mortgages, so rich people get more bakk on taxes for owning a home than the middle class do.


[30-Nov-18 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is just all kinds of fukked up.


[30-Nov-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[30-Nov-18 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich people are just all kinds of fucked up in the fuck


[30-Nov-18 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that there are poor people who defend this sort of behavior as ok because "it's their money"


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) >Implying they haven't always


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i imply nothing


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are and always have been fucked up in the fuck


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's just far less standign int heir way now...


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-antifada/

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You favorite Ultra-Left-Post-Posadist-Nihilist-Anarcho-Communist-Bordiga-Adjacent comedy and politics podcast, now in shocking 2D. #leftisbest #leftistisbestestWith Jamie Peck, Sean KB, AP Andy and a rotating cast of guests. Become a patron to enjoy bonus content, access to o...
https://podtail.com/content/images/podcast/artwork/600/t/h/the-antifada.jpg


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
TIME FOR SOME POD


[30-Nov-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
AS I EAT AND ART


[30-Nov-18 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
you mean tide for some pod?


[30-Nov-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
Gay


[30-Nov-18 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/tim-scott-thomas-farr-nomination/index.html

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Scott opposes controversial judicial nominee
Republican Sen. Tim Scott announced Thursday he would oppose President Donald Trump's nominee to be a US district judge in North Carolina, effectively ending the nomination that had been plagued with accusations that Thomas Farr supported measures that disenfranchised African...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181128133901-01-thomas-farr-file-super-tease.jpg


[30-Nov-18 10:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/11/29/cnn-fires-marc-lamont-hill-following-controversial-israel-comments/

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CNN fires Marc Lamont Hill following controversial Israel comments
CNN fired liberal pundit Marc Lamont Hill on Thursday, following controversial statements he made about Israel at the United Nations. “Marc Lamont Hill is no longer under contract with CNN,” a netw…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/cnn-fires-marc-lamont-hill-over-controversial-israel-comments.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[30-Nov-18 10:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/29/border-patrol-chase-3-die-after-pickup-crashes-near-san-diego/2159071002/

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High-speed border patrol chase: 3 die after pickup carrying 11 crashes
Three people died and another eight were injured after a high-speed Border Patrol chase ended in a crash near San Diego on Thursday.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8582db547c24ec0e392b16a428804bf53be90acd/c=827-812-1702-1308/local/-/media/USATODAY/GenericImages/2014/07/25/1406321670000-CALIFORNIA.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[30-Nov-18 10:51 AM] Crow#5457
police are killing people now


[30-Nov-18 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
under normal conditions, they would never use spike strips on a vehicle going that fast


[30-Nov-18 11:00 AM] Crow#5457
rofl https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/418949-christmas-ad-for-new-zealand-airlines-shows-mini-trump-on

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Christmas ad for New Zealand airline shows mini-Trump on Santa's n...
A new Christmas ad released for Air New Zealand on Thursday pokes fun at President Trump, showing an unrepentant American child in a “Make Christmas Great Again” hat on Santa’s “naughty” list.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/airnewzealand_ad_112918.png


[30-Nov-18 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/30/house-democrats-first-bill-targets-big-donors-voting-access/38644299/

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House Dems’ 1st bill targets big donors, voting access
The legislation, H.R. 1, sets the tone for Democrats as they take the majority in January
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/1b5f84ed3c0efe5d26a3c86a0fe2d8b7e56da84b/c=0-182-4444-2682/local/-/media/2018/11/30/DetroitNews/B99725450Z.1_20181130072438_000_GD629H9OG.1-0.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[30-Nov-18 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The bill would create national voter registration and expand access to early, online voting. It also would increase federal support for state voter systems, including paper ballots to prevent fraud.

Political groups would need to disclose donors, and members of Congress would be barred from serving on corporate boards.

In a nod to President Donald Trump’s resistance to releasing his tax returns, the bill would require presidents to do so. It also would create a Supreme Court ethics code.


[30-Nov-18 05:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Sounds like a good bill to me


[30-Nov-18 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
I hope it gets steam


[30-Nov-18 05:07 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2018/10/15/recreational-cannabis-hot-topic-in-new-york.html

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Recreational cannabis hot topic in New York - Buffalo - Buffalo Bu...
Sparked by the findings of a report commissioned by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, New York is asking the public how they think marijuana legalization should be implemented and attorneys were among those who offered an opinion at a recent listening session.
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/11087691/gettyimages-869503670*1200xx4000-2250-0-210.jpg


[30-Nov-18 05:07 PM] Mikey#7286
This makes me happy as a New Yorker


[30-Nov-18 05:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Mikey

But what if it will make drugs less enjoyable when they are legal? 🤔


[30-Nov-18 05:08 PM] DevField#5162
Hm. Like Amsterdam? 🤔


[30-Nov-18 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably piss the tree paper industry off liek a swarm of angry locusts but we shoudl legalize hemp paper


[30-Nov-18 05:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Rolls made from newborn babies placenta


[30-Nov-18 05:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Well I already don't smoke much so


[30-Nov-18 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well legalizing it woudl amke it less attractive to the rebellious types but likely wotn effect those that genuinly enjoy it


[30-Nov-18 05:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Does it stink much?


[30-Nov-18 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably make thme happier sicne thye dont have to go through bakc alley channels and jump through hoopps to acquire it anymore


[30-Nov-18 05:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Worse than tobacco-like shite they put in cigars?


[30-Nov-18 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i;ve never held hemp paper in person so i dont know. probabloy not though


[30-Nov-18 05:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine shitty weed-like mixes made by tobacco companies


[30-Nov-18 05:13 PM] DevField#5162
I don't actually know the health effects of cannabis 🤔 not sure if it's worse than cigs. don't think it is.


[30-Nov-18 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the worst effect is has is drwsiness


[30-Nov-18 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you;re probably not goign to want to use it while workign with heavy machinery


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Cannabis doesn't come close to tobacco


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] DevField#5162
Yeah, of course.. Hm.. I mean... I know someone who started smoking weed when they were 8? :NUT: they *seem* to be doing alright


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s health benefits meanwhiel replace all those pharmaceutical pills shoved down everyone;s throats


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] Mikey#7286
It even treats glaucoma, Parkinson's, and other things


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] DevField#5162
Yeah, hemp juice can be very beneficial


[30-Nov-18 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
PTSD


[30-Nov-18 05:16 PM] DevField#5162
Arthritis


[30-Nov-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
veterans woudl no longer have to take those thousands of pills they go into debt for


[30-Nov-18 05:16 PM] DevField#5162
*Crippling depression*


[30-Nov-18 05:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But will they sell pure cannabis?


[30-Nov-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
will they sell a whole plant?


[30-Nov-18 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not but it;s possible


[30-Nov-18 05:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda)

Tobacco companies put addictive chemicals in their cigars


[30-Nov-18 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tobacco companies are scum


[30-Nov-18 05:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I know.
But I mean, what if there will be mass-produced weed cigars then?


[30-Nov-18 05:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't think much people nowadays smoke pure tobacco


[30-Nov-18 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anyone tries to introduce and addictive substance into weed thye are scum


[30-Nov-18 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weed is not an addictive substance in itself


[30-Nov-18 05:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Btw
Is making moonshine legal in US?


[30-Nov-18 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most legalized weed right now is beign handled by small shop gardeners with well researched  science


[30-Nov-18 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[30-Nov-18 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moonshine isnt liek vodka or beer it;s a potent blend of alchoholic shit that wasnt actually intended to be drunk by people


[30-Nov-18 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s basically the alchoholic version of meth


[30-Nov-18 05:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I was assaulted by 4 google ads in a row when tried to search for it


[30-Nov-18 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.clawhammersupply.com/blogs/moonshine-still-blog/7155304-is-making-moonshine-legal

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Is Making Moonshine Legal?
A summary of federal laws, as maintained by the TTB, on home distillation and the production of moonshine.
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[30-Nov-18 05:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Treated as liquor

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[30-Nov-18 05:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda)

Seems like there are ways for them to buttfucc you, hmm.


[30-Nov-18 05:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
See no real purpose other than enforce control over you for getting all these permissions if you produce it for home use.


[30-Nov-18 05:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds like asking for permission to produce kefir or stuff like that 🤔


[30-Nov-18 05:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
For comparison in Russia it is okay to own and use a still which can produce up to 5 litres of moonshine in a 24 hours period for home use without any kind of registration. And responsibilities are purely personal. 

Like it is your own problem if you got yourself poisoned :twismug:


[30-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nile#1441
This says a lot about our society


[30-Nov-18 05:42 PM] Nile#1441
*bottom text*


[30-Nov-18 06:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I like how the US which often prides itself on large amounts of personal freedom permitted is actually more restrictive in some aspects than others


[30-Nov-18 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/672138169/amid-escalating-tension-ukraine-bans-russian-men-from-crossing-its-borders

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Amid Escalating Tension, Ukraine Bans Russian Men From Crossing It...
Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko says the ban on Russian men of military age is aimed at preventing the infiltration of "private armies."
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[30-Nov-18 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/loisbeckett/status/1068268443923709952?s=21

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Lois Beckett (@loisbeckett)
https://twitter.com/loisbeckett/status/1068268443923709952?s=21
Coward.” 

“Apparent difficulties in critical reasoning." 

"Negligent." 

"You should never have been a cop." 

What fellow police officers told Stephen Mader after he paused and did not shoot when faced with a suicidal black man holding an unloaded gun: https://t....
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[30-Nov-18 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://features.propublica.org/weirton/police-shooting-lethal-force-cop-fired-west-virginia/

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What Happened When A White Cop Decided Not to Shoot a Black Man
A shocking story of police and lethal force. Just not the one you might expect.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/externals/20181129-weirton-1200x630.jpg


[30-Nov-18 06:59 PM] ononim#8141
>cop fired because he didn't shoot the black guy, gets called "coward" by coleggues


[30-Nov-18 07:00 PM] ononim#8141

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[30-Nov-18 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
that site loads slow as fuck


[30-Nov-18 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
it's actually lagging my firefox


[30-Nov-18 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
Also, sorry for not responding Crow, but I can't remember what were you talking about, I shared quite a lot of amazon being shit articles


[30-Nov-18 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
"They expect that if a cop’s life is implicated in any way, the cop will always shoot first. I think they want to depend on that."


[30-Nov-18 07:45 PM] DevField#5162
Christ.


[30-Nov-18 07:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
These idiots have proven to my why people outside America see American police, stereotypically speaking, as unnecessarily brutal


[30-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly


[30-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Four cops around here got convicted of federal crimes for their brutality


[30-Nov-18 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Beat the shit out of a guy filming a protest and covered up evidence


[30-Nov-18 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Best part: the guy was an undercover cop himself


[30-Nov-18 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[30-Nov-18 07:58 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
That happened to a cop in this country once


[30-Nov-18 07:59 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
he stopped a motorbike rider, and at one point offered a bribe to let the issue go


[30-Nov-18 07:59 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the motorbike rider accepted but arrested him on the spot


[30-Nov-18 07:59 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Turns out the motorbike rider was the *head of the regional police division*


[30-Nov-18 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking told


[30-Nov-18 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/us/st-louis-officers-undercover-assault/index.html

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St. Louis police officers allegedly beat an undercover officer and...
Four Missouri police officers have been indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with the assault of a fellow officer who was working undercover.
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[30-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/11/29/far-right-activist-laura-loomer-handcuffs-herself-to-twitter-hq/

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Far-right activist Laura Loomer handcuffs herself to Twitter HQ
Conservative activist Laura Loomer handcuffed herself to the Twitter headquarters in Manhattan on Thursday to protest being banned from the social media site. Loomer, 25, shackled her hand to the d…
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[30-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
>The activist said she planned on staying there all night — but asked to be freed shortly after.


[30-Nov-18 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/418949-christmas-ad-for-new-zealand-airlines-shows-mini-trump-on

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Christmas ad for New Zealand airline shows mini-Trump on Santa's n...
A new Christmas ad released for Air New Zealand on Thursday pokes fun at President Trump, showing an unrepentant American child in a “Make Christmas Great Again” hat on Santa’s “naughty” list.
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[30-Nov-18 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
this is the ad <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O0U9bqxm14>


[30-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, that West Virginia police shooting


[30-Nov-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
essentially firing someone because they wouldn't help shoot suicidal blakks


[30-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
he's a veteran too


[30-Nov-18 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
so he has better prior training for situational awareness


[30-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Training the police force doesn't want


[30-Nov-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it can show their other officers are incompetent to a judge in the lawsuit over the unnecessary shooting.


[30-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
wtf


[30-Nov-18 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
'The second incident involved Mader’s response to an April 12, 2016, call about a woman in cardiac arrest who eventually died. When Mader arrived at her home, emergency medical technicians were working unsuccessfully to revive the woman, and they had moved her to a staircase landing inside. Mader and two other officers who joined him regarded the incident as tragic, but in the end a medical call, and they soon left. A supervisor later determined that Mader had failed to deduce that the woman might have been the victim of foul play. Parts of her body, the senior officer said, were contorted in a way that might have suggested she had been assaulted.

The department never determined if foul play was involved, and no one was ever arrested for the woman’s death. Still, a supervisor wrote a memo suggesting that Mader be disciplined for his handling of the call. Alexander, the police chief, later said under oath that Mader should have stopped the EMTs from trying to save the woman so as to preserve a potential crime scene.'


[30-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
SHOULD HAV STOPPED THE EMTS FROM TRYING TO SAVE HER


[30-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
what. the. fukk


[30-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
that police dept. should be in fukking jail


[30-Nov-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if there's a case for where a group like Antifa should be using violence


[30-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is against that police department.


[30-Nov-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm sure you'll hav your mind blown over this one


[30-Nov-18 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
there's just so much in that article


[30-Nov-18 08:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It seems to me that the police department would have no problems just shooting all the anifa. I think they would actually encourage it.


[30-Nov-18 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most certainly


[30-Nov-18 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the transcripts of that St. Louis case the officers talk with glee about protesters being beaten


[30-Nov-18 09:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Is this one of those police departments when a crime gang was sent from Europe to the US and somehow all ended up working as police?


[30-Nov-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[30-Nov-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is West Virginia


[30-Nov-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
the state that seceded from Virginia when Virginia seceded from the Union


[30-Nov-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking "racist, but the types that made moonshine instead of owning slaves"


[30-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was a small nook of Virginia in Appalacha that had forests and mountains and very little farmland to put plantations on


[30-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think the song


[30-Nov-18 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police int his country are fucked up


[30-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
WEST VIRGINIA, MOUNTAIN MAMA, TAKE ME HOME, COUNTRY ROADS etc.


[30-Nov-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
this police dept. thought that the correct thing to do


[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
is to shoot the negros dead


[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not save dying women because there might be evidence a negro beat them up


[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/30/house-democrats-first-bill-targets-big-donors-voting-access/38644299/

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House Dems’ 1st bill targets big donors, voting access
The legislation, H.R. 1, sets the tone for Democrats as they take the majority in January
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[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🤠 🔫


[30-Nov-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They fired him because of the former in their letter, and then said it was becase of the latter to the media.


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This sets a precedent where


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
if a blakk guy is yelling at police


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
you HAV to shoot him


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
or you get fired.


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the kind of thing white nationalists *adore*


[30-Nov-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police as a weapon against minorities.


[30-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could see a blakk guy carrying heat walking down the street in a place where that's legal without a permit


[30-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
say you're scared of him etc.


[30-Nov-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
police come in, shoot him right away.


[30-Nov-18 09:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"He had a gun"


[30-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[30-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't just the police force


[30-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
no local lawyer would represent Mader


[30-Nov-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
they thought the police dept. was *in the right*


[30-Nov-18 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/29/president-trump-end-mueller-probe-cohen-plea/2158652002/

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'This is an illegal hoax': Trump calls for end to Mueller investig...
After his former attorney pleaded guilty to lying in hopes of covering up potential Russian ties, President Donald Trump ended his Thursday lashing out at the special counsel investigation and calling for its demise.
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[30-Nov-18 09:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A police department like that is always going to be *right*. Incase they are *right* about you.


[30-Nov-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another one for the obstruction of justice pile I see.


[30-Nov-18 09:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Seems like feds need to step in.


[30-Nov-18 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't even knwo what my town's police department is liek all i know is people around here called a sherrif on me because i was walking to music and thye thought i was on the way to kick someone's ass


[30-Nov-18 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like overt racism to me.


[30-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, it just gets worse the more I read


[30-Nov-18 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“The problem for the police is that the situation was under control, until the other two officers showed up” Dolance argued. “They rolled up, almost hit each other, and jumped out of their cars. Within five to eight seconds, one of them started firing wildly into the night, in a residential neighborhood, and hit somebody’s vehicle next door, hit a house next door and then, eventually, one of his shots eventually hit this young man in the back of the head, and killed him. And it could have been avoided. That’s a problem.”'


[30-Nov-18 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not actually black but i live in a mostly black area


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police also impounded the guy's car


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i;m not sure what that says


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
and refused to giv the family the belongings they took


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
they said that the guy in charge was on vacation


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
*and that that wouldn't ever change even if the lady called every day*


[30-Nov-18 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
On vacation...forever.


[30-Nov-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[30-Nov-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/GibW98O.mp4

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Yeah, that seems about right.
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[30-Nov-18 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
I'd say what I think about this, but it probably will be considered "extremism" and warrant me thermal cryptoanalys at nearest police office


[30-Nov-18 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/06/01/trial-for-toronto-cop-brother-accused-in-dafonte-miller-assault-case-set-for-next-february.html

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Trial for Toronto cop, brother accused in Dafonte Miller assault c...
Miller suffered serious injuries after a 2016 confrontation with Toronto police Const. Michael Theriault and his brother, Christian, in a residential street in Whitby.
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[30-Nov-18 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the beatign cost him an eye


[30-Nov-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the father of said cop was also a cop and tried to interfere in the investigation agaisnt his son


[30-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.apnews.com/584edb244f3c43de94c71e18c7c4622c

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Accused man cites state abortion law in sexual assault case
LAWRENCE, Kan. (AP) — A man accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old girl unsuccessfully argued that he should not be charged with taking advantage of a child because she was actually 16 under a Kansas law that says life begins at fertilization. Defense attorney Cooper ...
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[30-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
“Because of recent statutory amendments establishing that life begins at fertilization, the alleged victim in this case should be considered by this court as nine months older than her date of birth,” according to Overstreet’s motion. “Because of this, at the time of the alleged incident, the alleged victim would have been 16 years old and thus a charge of aggravated indecent liberties is factually impossible.”


[30-Nov-18 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
In arguing against Overstreet’s motion, Prosecutor Alice Walker cited a Kansas Court of Appeals opinion that said the state’s law defining life as beginning at conception applied to public health codes, not to criminal codes. Age is calculated by birth date, and redefining that to equate with “life beginning at conception” would “introduce an unacceptable uncertainty into the criminal law,” according to the opinion.


[30-Nov-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol nice


[30-Nov-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shitty abortion law gonna get rekt eventually.


[30-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
(cause the guy's blakk, they'll want to make sure they get the 15 and under law used instead of the normal one, to maximize sentencing)


[30-Nov-18 09:30 PM] Nile#1441
Abortion yuck


[30-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, fukk "In arguing against Overstreet’s motion, Prosecutor Alice Walker cited a Kansas Court of Appeals opinion that said the state’s law defining life as beginning at conception applied to public health codes, not to criminal codes"


[30-Nov-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They weaseled out of it


[30-Nov-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they can still hit the blakks with "actually, Latisha was 15.8 years old, not 16 like she said", but while also throwing a wrench into Roe v Wade


[30-Nov-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[30-Nov-18 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
'The state needs to prove only that the victim was 14 or 15 when the sex occurred and that the defendant acted “intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly,” Walker said in a court filing.'


[30-Nov-18 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Almost guaranteed the guy had no idea she was 15, and the state is going to argue (successfully) that he didn't ask to see her ID to see proof of age, and was therefore rekkless.


[30-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really tho, even if he *did*, and she had a fake ID to buy alcohol and all that, they'll probably get him anyways (with an argument like "you should've known she wasn't 21 by her stature", even if she's bigger than most 21-year-old women)


[30-Nov-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's Kansas, he's blakk, and it's a child.


[30-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
No jury will acquit him.


[30-Nov-18 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the evidence said she was actually 16.


[30-Nov-18 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2018/11/30/grand-jury-gets-back-work-deciding-whether-indict-amber-guyger-killing-botham-jean?utm_source=pushly

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Former Dallas cop Amber Guyger indicted on murder charge for kill...
A Dallas grand jury has begun its third day weighing the case against an off-duty Dallas police officer who fatally shot an unarmed 26-year-old in...
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[30-Nov-18 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Nov-18 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BOTTOM TEXT


[30-Nov-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
grottom next


[30-Nov-18 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
NORTH AMERITEXT


[30-Nov-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porbles


[30-Nov-18 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FddvZ20bjqc

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[30-Nov-18 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
"Even Stalin wasn't called Stalin."


[30-Nov-18 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
(his real last name was djugashvili)


[30-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
Джугашвили


[30-Nov-18 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
took awhile to find it in russian lol


[30-Nov-18 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/news/special-reports/botham-jean/fired-cop-amber-guyger-indicted-on-a-murder-charge-in-botham-jean-killing/287-619078538

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Sources: Fired cop Amber Guyger indicted on a murder charge in Bot...
Guyger was arrested on a manslaughter charge on Sept. 9, three days after the shooting. But it was up to the grand jury this week to decide what charge she would face, or if she would be indicted at all.
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[30-Nov-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3as4gAW_E

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Divine's politics
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[30-Nov-18 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
bless u divine


[30-Nov-18 10:57 PM] Nile#1441
Wretched


[30-Nov-18 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Nov-18 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
***J A B   B O O S H***


[30-Nov-18 11:56 PM] ononim#8141
**JEB!**


[30-Nov-18 11:56 PM] ononim#8141
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[01-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Nile#1441
I want to beat up Robespierre


[01-Dec-18 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants the meat pies in his void space


[01-Dec-18 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PrC32Azbs

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We design the perfect Galactic Government, taking lessons from the Old Republic and the Empire on today's Star Wars Lore video! As a note, we break into a ci...
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[01-Dec-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly the best government for a sci-fi space-fairing people is democratic communalism, in which the inhabitants of a space community engage in direct democracy and elect delegates for the space congress.


[01-Dec-18 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminds me of the times I've tried to run space Anarchists in a few sci-fi NRPs and I realize, "Wait, I'm running a faction predicated on the notion of the infinite resources of space, utilizing automation to produce public-access raw materials for automated or hand-crafted finished products depending on the will of the individual, using all the empty territory of space to inhabit, and who recognizes the vastness of the galaxy so much they just avoid everyone else; more-so because the material abundance of all things renders official trade unimportant... Where do I put the conflict to drive the story?"


[01-Dec-18 12:21 AM] Nile#1441
Intergalactic space monarchy


[01-Dec-18 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
the bigger problem in star wars is the lack of safe ways to map out new hyperspace routes


[01-Dec-18 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
the hyperspace tech as shown in star wars is incredibly dangerous when not using predetermined lanes


[01-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
plus the fact that there's been intergalactic civilizations for at least 100,000 years by the time of the first movie


[01-Dec-18 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
I need to reed more Le Guin


[01-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the point being that new resources aren't exactly easily found


[01-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
plus iirc a lot of stuff was purposefully limited by powerful groups wanting to make money off of artificial scarcity


[01-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
*coughdiamondscough*


[01-Dec-18 12:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNuGdv536mM

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[01-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vladimir-putin-and-saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-handshake-g20-summit-greeting-argentina-today-2018-11-30/

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Hearty handshake between Putin and Saudi crown prince goes viral
The Russian and Saudi leaders appeared happy to see each other
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[01-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
saudi basically held the west hostage for years


[01-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
"prop us up or you'll lose us as an ally and we'll join the russians"


[01-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that russia is also on its way out


[01-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
its economy is so far behind everyone else it's laughable


[01-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
and putin's basically holding the country hostage in some half-assed attempt to bring back the soviet union


[01-Dec-18 01:48 AM] moonatik#3676
smaller GDP than canada lol


[01-Dec-18 01:51 AM] ononim#8141
I wish he wanted to bring back soviet union


[01-Dec-18 01:51 AM] ononim#8141
He onlywants an empire


[01-Dec-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically wants a soviet empire that dies out quickly because that shit cant support itself now adays and it would be extremely isolated


[01-Dec-18 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
Medicine? Education? Science? Naw, who needs it when you can get "respect" (aka feer), "strong hand" (aka authoritanism) and "greatness" (aja territory and resources to leech on)


[01-Dec-18 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and waving the nukes around as a threat only works for so long before it becomes an empty threat sicne it would kill yourself int he process


[01-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://hishamfangs.wordpress.com/tag/islamic-civilization/

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Islamic Civilization | Sands of Time
Posts about Islamic Civilization written by hishamfangs


[01-Dec-18 02:30 AM] moonatik#3676
kinda wish western leaders had the balls to stand up


[01-Dec-18 02:30 AM] moonatik#3676
usually i'm a non interventionist but NATO should've helped out ukraine in 2014


[01-Dec-18 02:30 AM] moonatik#3676
economic sanctions wont do


[01-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially not when South Ossetia just middlemans so Russia can trade with Eastern Ukraine sanction free


[01-Dec-18 03:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 03:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
A popular meme in China... Very realistic.


[01-Dec-18 04:02 AM] DevField#5162
:twismug:


[01-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people identifying as feminists aren't really concerned about rights anymore


[01-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
now it's about making the media super duper safe for work because SEX IS OPPRESSION or something


[01-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically want women in power in some kind of actual nanny state where you aren't allowed to make a movie without a female protagonist


[01-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want responsibility without freedom.


[01-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Chinese thing is just trying to say that because women will offload some of their current responsibilities like caring for children onto Men


[01-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, actually getting to equal responsibilities


[01-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying that what we hav now is equal or unfairly burdens men


[01-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and using that to disparage seeking equality


[01-Dec-18 05:19 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HW Bush died


[01-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what happens when the presidency is only gotten by those on death's door


[01-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
soon it'll be just Obama and Clinton


[01-Dec-18 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/30/us-china-argentina-g20-1036939

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White House statement drags Argentina into U.S.-China brawl
After meeting with Trump, Argentina's president had to downplay a White House readout that described China's economic behavior as "predatory."
https://static.politico.com/1f/ed/fe1925bf431685e9a65cc8e6bd21/181130-trump-macri-gtty-773.jpg


[01-Dec-18 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
A routine White House press statement describing a run-of-the-mill meeting Friday between President Donald Trump and Argentine President Mauricio Macri caused an unexpected diplomatic dust-up when it attacked China's economic behavior as "predatory."


[01-Dec-18 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/h91mHlBAK0I

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Nep Nep
https://youtu.be/h91mHlBAK0I
lulz
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h91mHlBAK0I/maxresdefault.jpg


[01-Dec-18 10:28 AM] ononim#8141

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[01-Dec-18 10:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://i.imgur.com/0NBCUpx.mp4

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The Joys of Friendship
https://i.imgur.com/0NBCUpxh.jpg


[01-Dec-18 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://imgur.com/gallery/XYRI2jY/comment/1536829289/1

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The new girl..
https://i.imgur.com/UuHEK7ah.jpg


[01-Dec-18 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
Imagine having this much idealogy


[01-Dec-18 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
(about the comment)


[01-Dec-18 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
George HW Bush was scum


[01-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He joined in with the "civil rights? That's FEDERAL OVERREACH" crowd


[01-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when he got actual power in the executive


[01-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
he basically constantly either directly helped countries violate human rights


[01-Dec-18 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
or when he actually called them out on doing so, pretty much did it only so he could look good while buddying up to them


[01-Dec-18 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
See "Operation Condor"


[01-Dec-18 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
AKA "That time the US decided to help South American countries assassinate anyone with views lefter than Trump's"


[01-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bush also was likely the guy ultimately masterminding Iran-Contra


[01-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when investigators started to unravel it all


[01-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
he handed out pardons like candy and got no comeuppance


[01-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
George HW Bush was the sort to not giv a shit about the law, basic rights, honesty, or really any kind of values.


[01-Dec-18 12:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was the essence of the Republican moderate, who believes blakks should be lokked up, but only for three fifths of their lifetimes.


[01-Dec-18 01:16 PM] ononim#8141
https://womenintheworld.com/2018/11/30/dominatrix-specializes-in-turning-white-right-wing-men-into-socialists/

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Dominatrix specializes in turning ‘white, right-wing men’ into...
A growing wave of sex-positive feminists are working to usher in what they describe as a “pleasure revolution” in which women’s sexuality is embraced, rather than stigmatized, by both individuals a…
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[01-Dec-18 01:17 PM] DevField#5162
Ooooh boy.


[01-Dec-18 01:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/11/30/grand-jury-dallas-officers-shooting-of-neighbor-was-murder/

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Grand Jury: Dallas Officer's Shooting of Neighbor Was Murder
A white former Dallas police officer was indicted on a murder charge nearly three months after she fatally shot an unarmed black neighbor whose apartment she said she entered by mistake.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/11/ap_guyger.jpg?fit=1200,877


[01-Dec-18 01:49 PM] Crow#5457
A white former Dallas police officer was indicted on a murder charge Friday, nearly three months after she fatally shot an unarmed black neighbor whose apartment she said she entered by mistake, believing it to be her own.


[01-Dec-18 01:49 PM] Crow#5457
She said she got to what she thought was her apartment — Jean’s was directly above hers — and found the door ajar. She opened it to find a figure standing in the darkness. She said she pulled her gun and fired twice after the person ignored her commands.


[01-Dec-18 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
what an idiot, went to fourth floor instead of third floor, found door open, saw a shadow, got mad at shadow, shot shadow


[01-Dec-18 01:50 PM] DevField#5162
Fucking hell


[01-Dec-18 01:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The cops in America seem awfully fond of looking for reasons to fatally shoot non-white people ffs


[01-Dec-18 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-voters-cal-20181130-story.html

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California Republicans see what happens when more voters vote, and...
Republicans have figured out how they got swamped in California: The dastardly state let voters vote.
https://www.latimes.com/resizer/aRtVkRuTDTlPBRh-sBpwoVl6MY0=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/AWVERDOCJBE7NBZLPGVLXPQWUQ.jpg


[01-Dec-18 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
turns out when you make it easy to vote, republicans lose


[01-Dec-18 01:55 PM] Crow#5457
california passed a law which went into effect this year that automatically registered citizens who visited the DMV to vote


[01-Dec-18 01:55 PM] Crow#5457
and added millions of voters to the registry


[01-Dec-18 01:55 PM] Crow#5457
the opposite happened in georgia (voting registries were purged by the republican candidate who was also the guy overseeing the election)


[01-Dec-18 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course the republicans dont liek it when their wage slaves have power


[01-Dec-18 02:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
I see chinese


[01-Dec-18 02:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Lemme translate: Chinese airports are not bad, but very unfriendly to we Muslims. No praying rooms in the airport, nowhere for Muslims to wash our hair and feet, we must prays on the ground. The broadcast doesn't remmand the time of praying, porks are sold in the resturant, we refuse to eat. No specific rooms for Muslims on the planes, we have to be mixed with common people. There are 20 millions Muslims in China, who must be respected.


[01-Dec-18 02:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I just wanna say... What the hell?!


[01-Dec-18 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we are muslim gods, bow to us puny mortals!"


[01-Dec-18 02:19 PM] ononim#8141
Is that Suadi crest I spot


[01-Dec-18 02:20 PM] DevField#5162
"Hey country, with it's own traditions and values, go out of your way to accommodate us because.....?"


[01-Dec-18 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are gods and demand a sacrifice


[01-Dec-18 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least this person acts like it;s that way


[01-Dec-18 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt china recently call muslims a disease?


[01-Dec-18 02:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our people do so, but the gov doesn't.


[01-Dec-18 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[01-Dec-18 02:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For what "religion freedom" or something


[01-Dec-18 02:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Too bad there are too many Muslims in China which is more than CPC can chew.


[01-Dec-18 02:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If not, they're allready banished for those terrorism behaviors.


[01-Dec-18 02:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
china has concentration camps for muslims atm


[01-Dec-18 02:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The Ningxia province gov they even paint our sickle and hammar flags into green.


[01-Dec-18 02:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Islamic communism? Kidding me?!


[01-Dec-18 02:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw "green" means "betrayal (among couples)" as a slang.


[01-Dec-18 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/China_hidden_camps

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China's hidden camps - BBC News
What's happened to the vanished Uighurs of Xinjiang?
https://news.files.bbci.co.uk/vj/live/idt-images/shorthand-China_hidden_camps/promo-map-fb_u11n3.jpg


[01-Dec-18 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/million-muslims-are-held-detention-camps-china-now-portrays-humane-n922041

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China wants to portray its vast Muslim detention camps as 'humane'
For decades, criticism of Beijing’s heavy-handed rule in its western region was met with silence. But now Chinese leaders have decided to defend it.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_42/2611066/181019-xianjian-muslims-mc-13144_6c87f211699c220a7a078c9ecff9b2dd.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[01-Dec-18 02:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I advise you don't believe these news... If you told a Chinese our gov will do anything bad to Muslims gods, he will never believe.


[01-Dec-18 02:41 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many Muslims are on the high political position, in the provinces or even center gov.


[01-Dec-18 02:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For this reason, Muslins we here can even get less punishment when doing crimes, just because they're Muslims.


[01-Dec-18 02:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Muslim rapists are prisoned for only months, while others usually faces ten years or even death penalty.


[01-Dec-18 02:46 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And that's why Chinese people hate Muslims so much.


[01-Dec-18 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like the same justifications that hitler used to detain jews


[01-Dec-18 02:48 PM] Crow#5457
hyperbole taken as fact


[01-Dec-18 02:48 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Not all Muslims are bad guys.


[01-Dec-18 02:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But Xinjiang terrorists fucked up.


[01-Dec-18 02:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In that time even some Muslim noodle shops writes on their wall "we are not terrorism" or sonething.


[01-Dec-18 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/11/asia/xinjiang-reeducation-muslim-china-intl/index.html

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China's paranoia and oppression in Xinjiang has a long history
China finally admitted this week what had been widely reported: that it is interning thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people in "re-education camps" in the far-western region of Xinjiang.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181011120321-xinjiang-kashgar-uyghur-ccp-2017-0730-01-super-tease.jpg


[01-Dec-18 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/30/michigan-senate-crime-political-nonprofits-disclose-donors/2161433002/

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Michigan Senate: Make it a crime for political nonprofits to discl...
Michigan’s Senate want to make it a misdemeanor crime for a public official to require non-profits and political groups to disclose their donors
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/88184cefdad16cfb30ff27d7c919b686885fda44/c=1177-0-4479-1866/local/-/media/2018/05/07/DetroitNews/B99657628Z.1_20180507171722_000_GB0202EUD.1-0.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[01-Dec-18 02:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Muslim noodles are really good tho.


[01-Dec-18 02:52 PM] Crow#5457
china's even cracking down on college students born and raised on the tenets of communism, created by its own censored college system


[01-Dec-18 02:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What?


[01-Dec-18 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.html
China’s Leaders Confront an Unlikely Foe: Ardent Young Communists
The Chinese Communist Party is cracking down on a group of student protesters who have done little but fight for communism’s values and praise Marx, Mao and President Xi Jinping.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/09/11/world/00maoists-1/00maoists-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Dec-18 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
The authorities moved quickly to crush the efforts of the young activists, detaining several dozen of them and scrubbing the internet of their calls for justice — but not before their example became a rallying cry for young people across the country unhappy with growing inequality, corruption and materialism in Chinese society.


[01-Dec-18 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
Carrying portraits of Mao and singing socialist anthems, they espoused the very ideals that the government fed them for years in mandatory ideological classes, voicing grievances about issues like poverty, worker rights and gender equality — some of communism’s core concerns.


[01-Dec-18 02:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't understand...


[01-Dec-18 02:58 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why to carry portraits of Mao?


[01-Dec-18 02:59 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And no one even give a fuck to those old socialism propaganda songs.


[01-Dec-18 03:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And poverty, woeker rights, gendeer equality... What's the relationship between these things?


[01-Dec-18 03:02 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
To be honest the only thing I care is the cencorship of porns of our gov. Which means it will be harder to find porns...


[01-Dec-18 03:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And what's more, I hope I can enter a good college, find a good job and earn enough money to raise my families and buy my favorite things.


[01-Dec-18 03:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm really out of money these days... I've bought too many books and fabrics(to make fursuit) online


[01-Dec-18 03:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 03:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For some reason our Communist Youth League post delicacies pictures every single night! God damn it! I'm already obesity!!!


[01-Dec-18 03:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You are _Communist_ Youth League! Stop posting _foods_!!!


[01-Dec-18 03:12 PM] moonatik#3676
china is to communism what american cheese is to cheese


[01-Dec-18 03:12 PM] moonatik#3676
the actual substance is supposedly there, but you just can't find it


[01-Dec-18 03:12 PM] moonatik#3676
also crow is right about just about everything he just said lol


[01-Dec-18 03:13 PM] moonatik#3676
hell, you haven't even brought up the oppression of falun gong practioners


[01-Dec-18 03:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Stop mentioning this fuck!


[01-Dec-18 03:14 PM] moonatik#3676
no


[01-Dec-18 03:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They print their fucking rhyme on the bills, which I've recieved a lot.


[01-Dec-18 03:15 PM] moonatik#3676
that's because they're being hunted down and murdered by the CCP and they want people to know about the shit they're going through


[01-Dec-18 03:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The shit that they believe in a living man as their god and the earth is about to be blown up and everyone who doesn't believe and donate money to them will die?


[01-Dec-18 03:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No


[01-Dec-18 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait if earth gets blown up how does donating to them help ypou live?


[01-Dec-18 03:17 PM] moonatik#3676
imo every religion has silly beliefs, but i also think killing people for those beliefs is wrong


[01-Dec-18 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
that's why people make fun of bible literalists so much


[01-Dec-18 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
because they only want certain parts of the bible to be taken literally while completely ignoring all the sanctified rape and murder and genocide


[01-Dec-18 03:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's not a "religion". Religion is a disguise, atually, it's an antigovernment power.


[01-Dec-18 03:20 PM] moonatik#3676
pfft


[01-Dec-18 03:21 PM] moonatik#3676
if it opposes the CCP then it's probably good with me


[01-Dec-18 03:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They describe Jiang as "devil""use special witchcraft to kill people", and that's almost all there shitty rhymes about.


[01-Dec-18 03:22 PM] moonatik#3676
do you have a source for these claims?


[01-Dec-18 03:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Jiang is not welcomed by most of Chinese tho, but the "witchcraft" has become a very popular meme.


[01-Dec-18 03:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@moonatik You can see their website called 创世纪


[01-Dec-18 03:24 PM] moonatik#3676
could you provide a link?


[01-Dec-18 03:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wait a minute


[01-Dec-18 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
Modern PPC is as communist/socialist as Saudi Arabia is peacefull


[01-Dec-18 03:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.bannedbook.org/bnews/tag/%E5%A4%A7%E7%BA%AA%E5%85%83/amp

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大纪元 - 中国禁闻网


[01-Dec-18 03:26 PM] ononim#8141
And it's not even "not true soctsman" because there were socialist dictators I hate, just to name the jolly uncle Joe to name  one


[01-Dec-18 03:27 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
OK, not 创世纪, it's called 大纪元


[01-Dec-18 03:27 PM] ononim#8141
But CCp just keeps the name while doing blatnant and outright capitalist exploration and straight up imperealism


[01-Dec-18 03:27 PM] moonatik#3676
honestly the chinese government isn't that bad, but the problem is that the legitimate chinese government has been exiled to taiwan and the mainland is run by a rogue crime syndicate called the CCP


[01-Dec-18 03:29 PM] ononim#8141
ehh Kuimotang had their fair share of shit during the Chinease Civil war, but the modern Taiwan is at least open about that it's capitalistic and doesn't call itself party of the owkrers while putting anti-suicde nets and there's political freedom


[01-Dec-18 03:30 PM] moonatik#3676
KMT got their shit together eventually


[01-Dec-18 03:30 PM] ononim#8141
I remember reading a paper about how PPC managed to "lease" a port out of ceylon for 100 years with full control of it


[01-Dec-18 03:30 PM] ononim#8141
Doesn't ring the bell?


[01-Dec-18 03:31 PM] ononim#8141
*cough* Hong Cong *cough* Macau *cough*


[01-Dec-18 03:31 PM] moonatik#3676
not to mention the debt traps


[01-Dec-18 03:32 PM] moonatik#3676
handing out "you'd have to be insane not to take this" infrastructure deals that in the end trap the smaller country in debt and enrich the CCP


[01-Dec-18 03:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
ceylon?!


[01-Dec-18 03:33 PM] moonatik#3676
you probably know it as sri lanka


[01-Dec-18 03:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[01-Dec-18 03:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't know then.


[01-Dec-18 03:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Someone online says that China is about to earn lots of money from these poor countries.


[01-Dec-18 03:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But most of stupid peeps still believe that we're "aiding" these countries. They complain that this kind of aiding without reward will make China become poor.


[01-Dec-18 03:36 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't think our gov will be so kind that aid those poor countries without any benefits. It's ridiculous.


[01-Dec-18 03:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By the way, why no one mention the air polution?


[01-Dec-18 03:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The air quality these days in China is fucked up.


[01-Dec-18 03:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 03:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
See the small grey circle in a big red area in the heart of the "chicken"? I live there.


[01-Dec-18 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
damn, they're really fucking up xinjiang


[01-Dec-18 03:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Crow Dude, we don't have so many chemical factores in such a poor and dangerous place... Those are sandstorms.


[01-Dec-18 03:48 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here is really polluted by chemicals.


[01-Dec-18 03:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't see smogs or feel anything. But according to our offical data, not going out is advised.


[01-Dec-18 03:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The main pollution is PM2.5.


[01-Dec-18 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
it might also be because you've never seen what it was like without the pollution


[01-Dec-18 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
my area in california temporarily had the worst air quality in the world due to the huge fire


[01-Dec-18 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
and there was a strange fog in every direction


[01-Dec-18 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
the fire's gone, so the air quality is much better now


[01-Dec-18 03:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've been in Beijing once when the air is bad. You can see the smog floating before your eyes.


[01-Dec-18 03:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here you can rarely see smog tho.


[01-Dec-18 03:53 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But sometimes some farmers burn their straws and make the smoke along the road.


[01-Dec-18 03:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 03:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And there's one thing I can't understamd... Why do these Indians parades with those sickle and hammar flags?


[01-Dec-18 03:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our medias didn't mention this because it sounds like a shame. But you can see it, obviously.


[01-Dec-18 03:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are holding starved people's skeleton, really spooky... And communism flags.


[01-Dec-18 03:59 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Dec-18 04:30 PM] moonatik#3676
they think communism might work if they try it


[01-Dec-18 04:30 PM] moonatik#3676

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[01-Dec-18 04:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm a commie tho...


[01-Dec-18 04:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Since I'm a member of the Communist Youths League.


[01-Dec-18 04:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Which earn money online by selling their... I mean... OUR videos.


[01-Dec-18 04:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
(Wtf this is filthy capitalism!)


[01-Dec-18 04:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
(🔫 Shut up!!!)


[01-Dec-18 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang `We here is really polluted by chemicals.` says the chemist


[01-Dec-18 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
:D


[01-Dec-18 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
_runs_


[01-Dec-18 05:15 PM] Nile#1441
Communism gay


[01-Dec-18 05:17 PM] Crow#5457

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[01-Dec-18 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
They are probably Naxalists


[01-Dec-18 05:54 PM] moonatik#3676
communism can work in a post scarcity society but we don't live in one of those yet


[01-Dec-18 06:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
in a society where we can magically nanofabricate everything out of thin air?


[01-Dec-18 06:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
yeah, communism will *finally* work there


[01-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
you don't need it to be quite at that level, but you need automation to be at a level where the price of everything involved in producing things is so low as to be negligible


[01-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
that's literally what's happening with AI right now


[01-Dec-18 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that companies are still selling services and products as if they were being run 100% by humans still


[01-Dec-18 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
despite the massive savings they're raking in


[01-Dec-18 06:11 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I know we'd be long, *long* dead by then


[01-Dec-18 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
companies want the same amount of profit for about 30% of the work


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but I dream of a future where what I said is true


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and humans no longer need to fear death


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
if you're in your 20s atm, you'll see it possible within your lifetime


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Call me naive but I'm sure humans can reach that level


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm in my *very* late teens


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im 28


[01-Dec-18 06:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
like I'm 2 months away from 20 y.o


[01-Dec-18 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
you might not necessarily see it in your lifetime depending on how much the capitalist markets resist changing


[01-Dec-18 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
once everything is automated, if there's no compensation for huge unemployment, there will be civil war


[01-Dec-18 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people will likely storm factories and shit to destroy the robots


[01-Dec-18 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[01-Dec-18 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
companies want all the profit of the industrial era while existing in the modern automated era


[01-Dec-18 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which doesnt work because thye dont pay their employees well whcih means none of the money gets pumped back into the system meaning there's just this big ass money dam piling up


[01-Dec-18 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and all the machiens in the dam are turned off so the money has no where to go


[01-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part is the people who say that it's peoples' "rights" to hoard as much money as they want without spending it, even if it's a detriment to everyone else as a whole


[01-Dec-18 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
even if it causes economies to tank


[01-Dec-18 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is dumb especially when th emoney being hoarded is tax payer money


[01-Dec-18 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point rich people are literally beign paid to be rich and nothing more


[01-Dec-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well most of thme anyway


[01-Dec-18 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/pvHP3LO.jpg

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[01-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Communism in the form that the Soviet Union and Russia practiced treated religion (unless it was confined and closely tied to the state's majority ethnicity) as a hostile political entity


[01-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
which tbh is completely correct in the abstract


[01-Dec-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religion's just politics with a ton of fairy tales involved to support its ideas


[01-Dec-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia actually pretty much still does this


[01-Dec-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia are being treated as extremists


[01-Dec-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, the point of it isn't actually to protect the values of the state


[01-Dec-18 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just to establish another way to create an enemy


[01-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you can say Muslims are evil, filthy people that scheme and connive


[01-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you arrest them to make it seem true


[01-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you point to a few being shitty to giv examples


[01-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
bam


[01-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav an enemy the people can hate and fear


[01-Dec-18 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and authoritarian states need enemies to keep the people from realizing the state itself is the enemy.


[01-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP2Kgabnaeo

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[01-Dec-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
Watch out, religious man! God shaves a wall today.


[01-Dec-18 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/419242-cia-finds-saudi-crown-prince-sent-at-least-11?amp

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Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman sent at least 11 messages to his adviser, who oversaw the effort to kill Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, around the time of Khashoggi's killing, according to a classified CIA report
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[01-Dec-18 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump: the cia said it so it must be false! the saudis are my intelligence agency and thye said they didnt do it and they are right!


[01-Dec-18 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dc-clerk-stalls-marriage-over-foreign-new-mexico-id-card_us_5c01a3a1e4b04fb211680a4a

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[01-Dec-18 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.glamour.com/story/hospitals-billed-sexual-assault-survivors-for-rape-kits

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[01-Dec-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
This reminds me of the time recently a conservative desperate to destroy my argument that North Dakota's post-democrat-elected-by-natives law requiring IDs show the one thing native IDs don't to vote briefly was like NATIVES AREN'T US CITIZENS THO


[01-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a beautiful day.


[01-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/19Os804CPig

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[01-Dec-18 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and to just add to the meme


[01-Dec-18 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HW Bush's last words were telling one of his sons he loved him


[01-Dec-18 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess which one.


[01-Dec-18 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Jeb!


[01-Dec-18 10:46 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
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[01-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Nile#1441
OverSimplified 👍


[01-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
☭


[01-Dec-18 11:03 PM] Nile#1441
♛


[01-Dec-18 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/30/lawmakers-consider-changes-early-voting-transportation-funding-2020-presidential-primary/2162684002/

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GOP seeks to limit Wisconsin early voting, strip powers from Tony ...
Three weeks after Democrats swept statewide races boosted by record early voting and high turnout, Republicans are considering measures to prevent that from happening again.
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[01-Dec-18 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[01-Dec-18 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans are just unpredictable as fuck


[01-Dec-18 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_112918/

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[01-Dec-18 11:15 PM] Litrojia#0612
My family still flip-flops between "how is there global warming if it still gets cold in winter" and "there's climate change but not manmade"


[01-Dec-18 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, is that even legal


[01-Dec-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
climate is not weather and a changeing climate doesnt change the fact that earth gets farther from the sun in winter


[01-Dec-18 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will make it legal.


[01-Dec-18 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
(except the parts the justices would strike down)


[01-Dec-18 11:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
"Farther from the sun" is a bit inaccurate, but the idea is there


[01-Dec-18 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the part of our orbit is wider anyway


[01-Dec-18 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wording


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] Litrojia#0612
In the northern hemisphere, Earth is closest to the sun in winter
it's just the tilt


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] Litrojia#0612
very slightly elliptical orbit


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] Mikey#7286
climate change is causing us to get more natural disasters and it is for the most part man made


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure the republicans would legalize murder if it helped thme win at this point


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] Mikey#7286
it's also causing polar ice to melt more rapidly


[01-Dec-18 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they just cant come out and legalize murder though so they have to go for dirtier tactics


[01-Dec-18 11:19 PM] Litrojia#0612
my family (me and all the deniers) all have especially staunch views on it
I'd be practically disowned if they even *knew*


[01-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Mikey#7286
i'm guessing you're more liberal and they're more conservative?


[01-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah


[01-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Mikey#7286
conservatives don't care about facts lol


[01-Dec-18 11:23 PM] moonatik#3676
"it has been getting warmer recently, huh"
"GET OUT"


[01-Dec-18 11:25 PM] Mikey#7286
conservatives will be the death of us all because they want to tax more and defund scientific research, projects and environmental protections


[01-Dec-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money is the number one priority


[01-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Mikey#7286
indeed


[01-Dec-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anying in the way of that has to be silenced and killed


[01-Dec-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also want the paper thin illusion of a democracy while they try and do the russia thing


[01-Dec-18 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"you can vote but it doesn't matter and they do nothing, but hey, it makes you feel good about yourself"


[01-Dec-18 11:31 PM] moonatik#3676
"we need to reduce the deficit" and "we need to cut taxes" are two of the biggest things you hear from conservatives


[01-Dec-18 11:31 PM] moonatik#3676
usually doing one of those things contradicts the other


[01-Dec-18 11:31 PM] moonatik#3676
but there is a way to do both: cut the social services everyone likes!


[01-Dec-18 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want a paradox where the money comes formt hin airw while there are no consequences


[01-Dec-18 11:32 PM] moonatik#3676
to be 100% fair i know a fair few lefties who think that they can just magically pay for all the govt programs they want


[01-Dec-18 11:33 PM] moonatik#3676
neither extreme in this particular case seems to realise that you need money to pay for things


[01-Dec-18 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of paying for programs woudl require a major overhaul of our budget structure. and a lot of it woudl have to coem out of the stupidly high military budget


[01-Dec-18 11:34 PM] moonatik#3676
cut the US military budget in half and you could probably pay for half of the programs lefties want


[01-Dec-18 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'd also need to fidn a way to increase taxes for the wealthy without republicans bunglignt hat up


[01-Dec-18 11:35 PM] moonatik#3676
the real challenge when it comes to money would probably be universal healthcare, which would save money for the individual but cost a fucking ton for the government


[01-Dec-18 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah universal healthcare woudl have to be a gradual process


[01-Dec-18 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
introduce one or two features at a time slowly with enough time to adjust for cost


[01-Dec-18 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the biggest challenge at this point is fixing the tax system and whose ebign taxed what amounts


[01-Dec-18 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and just workign aorudn the party of no for all


[01-Dec-18 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
The thing I think one has to remember is that the conservatives of today are pretty much used to tackling the mainstream liberal programs of five years ago. A lot of this comes down to funding because those programs were otherwise so spiritless. The Hillary and Obama camp and all of that boils down to things like, "Opportunity tax credits" which can by dryly countered with, "muh budget". Second Amendment and LGBTQ rights are probably the most exciting but the most run dry of the topics where it boils down to "yes/no" in some form. The Republican Party and even the conservatives in the Democrats are perhaps the most poorly equipped to handle any outside narrative and outreach to the honest discomforts of the American voters who have been kicking back and forth between the otherwise same liberal, bourgeoisie political management that has existed for the passed 50 years at least, or not since 1944 when there was a chance we could have had an incredibly progressive, far out of left-field president in the shape of Henry A Wallace, who was disbarred from being the vice president again by the DNC select committee at the very last minute in favor of Truman, a man who could only really exist because the St Louis Machine existed.


[01-Dec-18 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
But today you get Ocasio-Cortez's in, and both parties short circuit because they can't wrap their head around it, in much the same way as you get a Trump in. Both fry the narrative that either party operates on as being pre-conceived fact.


[01-Dec-18 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My family has said something along the lines of "I want to vote for Democrats but live like a Republican"


[02-Dec-18 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i too would love to live off other people's money sicne i cant get my own


[02-Dec-18 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i knwow hat thye mean and it woudl be nice if we had that balance


[02-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
everyone wants to live like a libertarian


[02-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's when they see other people living like libertarians that they get pissed and say there needs to be rules


[02-Dec-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/jeremo12/status/1068844208293928960

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[02-Dec-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
V I V E


[02-Dec-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
"The Yellow Jackets movement, also referred to as the Paris fuel protests by English-language media, is a protest movement primarily in France that began on Saturday, 17 November 2018 and has since spread to nearby countries in limited amounts. The "yellow vests" blocked roads and caused traffic chaos. The demonstration arose from anger over rising diesel fuel prices and taxes. However different motivations appeared over the weeks: the resignation of Emmanuel Macron, to increase of minimum wage, implement a maximum wage of €15000, increase of pension, end of homelessness and many more.

The "yellow jacket" was chosen as a symbol because, since 2008, all motorists are required by law to have high-visibility vests in their vehicles when driving, and hence "yellow jackets" have become a widely available, inexpensive and symbolic garment."


[02-Dec-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.facebook.com/leparisien/videos/303337870512248/UzpfSTMzMzY2NTcyNzAwMjY4NTo3Njc1NTYxODY5NDY5Njg/

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Le Parisien
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[02-Dec-18 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
DIREKT AKTION


[02-Dec-18 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnSiT_3sXDc

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[02-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
What is wrong with the French


[02-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
Why do they like to riot


[02-Dec-18 12:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
I suspect it has something to do with a long historical awareness of their own freedom, coming to matured fruition with the enlightenment and a spearheading of individual liberty necessitating a broad societal awareness of their own power structures when they don't do anything to the benefit of their own liberties. It's not like to be literate in French you have to read Rosseau, where as with English you masturbate into Harry Potter.


[02-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Nile#1441
I haven't even read Harry Potter. And hey, if anything to destabilize France happens I'm all for it.


[02-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
100 corporations, the CEOs and other higher ups of which have names and addresses are responsible for over 70% of emissions


[02-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
if that doesn't say what needs to be done, what does?


[02-Dec-18 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Burn 'em all. I am Sherman Man 2. Bullet is too kind.

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[02-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Nile#1441
Not even I advocate for burning people alive. I'm not a savage.


[02-Dec-18 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you;re goign to cook people atleast kill them first


[02-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are cooking us far more slowly and painfully


[02-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
their deaths will be quicker than those that they are ensuring the human race gets


[02-Dec-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast tranq them


[02-Dec-18 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
The fire is a mercy compared to what they're doing to the rest of us.


[02-Dec-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then their screams cant alert th eothers


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not when we have all the others.


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBovs3s3aps

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[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make 'em howl 2020


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Nile#1441
I think you guys might have some sociopathic tendencies.


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] moonatik#3676

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[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soylent koch


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] moonatik#3676
who are we burning?


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich people


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The   B O U R G I E S


[02-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk https://youtu.be/19Os804CPig

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[02-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still prefer John Brown but Sherman is also good.


[02-Dec-18 01:09 AM] moonatik#3676

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[02-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Nile#1441
🤢


[02-Dec-18 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burn the burgies!

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[02-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
If we don't kill them, the alien and dolphin comrades will have far worse in store for them


[02-Dec-18 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking

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[02-Dec-18 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I refuse to recognize Battle Hymn of the Republic as existing


[02-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disgusting Bowlderization of one of the greatest American folk songs.


[02-Dec-18 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/jso1YRQnpCI

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[02-Dec-18 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
P A P A     S E E G E R


[02-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nile#1441
Battle Hymn of the Republic is a decent song


[02-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nile#1441
Shut your mouth


[02-Dec-18 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nile His soul still goes marching on.


[02-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Nile#1441
Gay


[02-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/30/672103209/why-arent-millennials-spending-more-they-re-poorer-than-their-parents-fed-says

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[02-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, lower income, same debt as Gen X, grew up during a horrible recession, healthcare costs the arm and the leg you're trying to save, RIP us.


[02-Dec-18 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think I posted that here before


[02-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6GodWn4XMM

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[02-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Nile#1441
That thumbnail is very off-putting


[02-Dec-18 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's hawt


[02-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
by your own logic borders define jusristiction of mexican and latin american immigrants can just walk in that must mean that america has juristiction over latin america or vice versa


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that logic doesnt hold up


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, if a Mexican crosses the border and litters


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an area with a no littering ordnance


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is actually guilty of a crime


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he is under our jurisdiction


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is actually how it works


[02-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the crossing the border is the crime


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas has executed Mexican citizens who crossed the border and killed people


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I make it a crime to eat, do I get to harm everyone?


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is and is not a crime is defined by the government


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it can be redefined


[02-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is no moral guidance


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
to say we should stop "criminals" and then to use the technical definition is an attmept to disguise hatred as being morally correct.


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Fleeing from complete and total social degradation by going to the only economically viable country in the Americas


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I didn't know you could read minds you should start a buisness.


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Bording crossing stations are legal


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Therefore it would be legal to go through those.


[02-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
BUT


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Want to cross border, need to cross border


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Border stations are closed


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another classic


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
>conflating being poor with being persecuted in a war


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Therefore can not declare for asylum legally


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment someone sees thru the right's twisted words


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Thus, only recourse for safe future is to do the illegal


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you say that we can't truly know people's motives


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
so should just assume nothing


[02-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when there is quite clear evidence and patterns.


[02-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's real fun when, every now and then, the old lies get revealed


[02-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Mikey#7286
how do you know they didn't want to cross legally?


[02-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, directly, explicitly.


[02-Dec-18 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey hush for a bit


[02-Dec-18 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
just listen


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're just accusing me of being a racist which is just a classic deflection technique


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not buying your bullshit I'm not submitting to your racist morality


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not all hatred is racism


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Mikey#7286
you can't just say they're crossing illegally when we don't know if they intended to go through the paperwork, this just sounds like Trump is disguising himself not wanting anyone to cross the border


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a deflection from what?


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You intend to punish people for a technical crime, but why?


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the merrits of the argument.


[02-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What merits are those?


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
crime is crime technicality's are whatever


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not all crimes are crimes for no reason.


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does something being a crime make it morally unacceptable?


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well why is this crime morally unacceptable?


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
What is the virtue of law predicated on? If a bad law is passed, does it mean because it is law it is good?


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further


[02-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
why is it that the committing of this crime demands punishment?


[02-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
please engage in a non moral argument please. illegal border crossings are illegal for a long list of reasons.


[02-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it may be the case that some crimes are morally unacceptable, but do not demand punishment)


[02-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you want a nonmoral argument?


[02-Dec-18 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I smell circular logic


[02-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot rely on pure logic for right vs wrong


[02-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the end, there must be ethos, not just logos


[02-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah some crimes are crime for no reasons, like being gay in russia


[02-Dec-18 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Theadora Keshtah Legal arguments are by themselves a moral argument, in the codification of morality as national law, under said nation's jurisdiction. By arguing the legal case for a thing, you argue it's moral case. So it still stands: what makes a law good?


[02-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what are you talking about.


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because some crimes are dumb therefore all crimes are bad am I getting that right.


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
In many countries it was illegal to be gay. It was the law that being gay was a crime. all gays were criminals.


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should this particular law be followed, and why should those who violate it be punished?


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
false equivlience is false.


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has established some laws are dumb


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you must establish that this law is not.


[02-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
you don't decide what crimes are crimes


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because people who don't follow the border laws aren't inclinded to follow any of the good laws like against murder.


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Mikey#7286
is what I'm saying


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is statistically incorrect.


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies show immigrants commit *less* crimes than native-born citizens.


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Theadora Keshtah Moral philosophy. If there is a thing that shouldn't be done, then it should be defined. Action or disincentivization should be enacted to dissuade doing the thing. But also: all actions predicate themselves on a social framework, an understanding between individuals in a society of what is right and wrong. It stands to reason any law passed outside of this framework is bad, and that in it is good. Identify this, so we can move ahead to the heart of the matter.


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I broke the speed limit once. I am now capable of murder.


[02-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we elect people to decide the laws and you're arguing a losing battle almost everyone in the country is in favor or borders


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's argumentum ad populum


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
how popular something is has no bearing on it being correct.


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Mikey#7286
this


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we elect people to *write* the laws


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
two words class warfare


[02-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
judges are not generally elected, they *decide* them


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this is class warfare, what classes are fighting?


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it the poor vs the rich?


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
judges should be elected tbh and have term limits


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If so, and the Hondurans are the poor


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I must insist I am with them and want the rich to suffer.


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Theadora Keshtah If you want to get into class warfare, then the factor that illegal immigration predecates itself on is that capitalists demand cheap labor and illegal immigrants are an easier source of cheap labor, being outside of the country's own legal jurisdiction they're encouraged to shut up or go home


[02-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will find very little money in my home.


[02-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
illegal immigration is literaly class warfare by flooding the market with illegal aliens who by defintion are not protected by our laws ie minimum wage and oscea regulations it depresses the value for american workers.


[02-Dec-18 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The law is fair and unbiased. No man rich or poor is allowed to sleep under a bridge. ect.


[02-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then giv them citizenship


[02-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the problem of wage depression would continue to exist.


[02-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raise the minimum wage


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Therefore, if: illegal immigration is class, so: illegal immigrants are cheap labor, as being an underclass to the working class, then: systems of capital demand the cheapest labor, and thus require illegal immigration to occur.


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 28% below the inflation-adjusted 1956 minimum wage


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Mikey#7286
and punish corporations like walmart for not treating employees well


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
To fix: it would stand to reason the entire capitalist structure be up-ended; which I support.


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
($1 in 1956, $9.30 in today's money)


[02-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and buisnesses would just fire extra employes ergo employment crisis and you're gonna say welfare but welfare dosen't fall from the heavens   you have to get taxes.


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then tax the rich


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, kill the rich


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and they'll just leve


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
CEOs are enjoying record bonuses


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
profits are at an all-time high


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
capital flight


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't seem to actually happen


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
or we can just sit by while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
irrelevent leftist details


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Seize the instruments of production they leave behind.


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
many of them are entrenched here


[02-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Reagan normalized tax rates between income types


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
it cause no capital flight


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Mikey#7286
the rich get more money to buy that 5th yacht and 7th mansion that they'll never use


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wealth is not the money which the rich possess, but the capacity of labor which the people they hire as wage labourers excercise.


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho it havily taxed capital gains for like the only time in history


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and who the hell put you in charge of other people's money.


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
So long as man is able to create, there is wealth.


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hell I want to leave your socialist utopia now


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the gov't is in charge of all of our money


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
old but I think relevant. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46291361 after 57% profit

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[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we are in charge of the gov't


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
At the end of the day, the US dollar is a fiat currency and it's entire value is based on the US Government saying so


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'd rather be poor in a capitalist naiton than rich in a communist nation.


[02-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav every right to demand you pay your fair share of taxes


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, the dollar is bakked by oil, @AaronMk


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and I have by your own open border's logic the right to just leave for a country with no taxes and no socialists


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
ever since OPEC started using it


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
so you'd rather be on the streets after trying to get a job forever with no luck while someone else gets lucky and leads a successful life


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, cya


[02-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd rather people be able to easily leave


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would also like systems to make sure that tax havens don't exist


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which are slowly coming to fruition


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a useless proposition


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Nebbie More like the system of laws and the relative stability of the US state as well as the projecting power of its military in order to secure more productive wealth outside of the nation. We maintain poor conditions in the Congo and Iraq for a reason.


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Mikey#7286
i sit here barely getting by while the 1% get another tax break


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[02-Dec-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
That being, we want their cheap shit to manufacturer into expensive shit.


[02-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
country A is rich. open borders. everyone who isn't a useless dreg simply departs  to country B. open borders. country B decides to close the borders to keep the poor out what then.


[02-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Mikey#7286
hate to be the bearer of bad news but Trump doesn't give a rats ass about the working class


[02-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
unless you're in favor of abolishing all nation states in some socialist revolution.


[02-Dec-18 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then by capitalist logic a slow degeneration of the closed border nation by creating a closed system in which fresh labor can not enter the state to keep its wages and thus costs low, thereby the cost of labor rises in the closed state to the point that its manufactured commodities do not sell competitively on the market and thus comes to experience an economic collapse.


[02-Dec-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the onyl job option i have open to me right now is work studies for the college libraryand that's only iff my class schedule lines up enough to qualify me


[02-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the problem with our system is too much regulation. big corperations are the primary benificiaries of intense goverment regulation.


[02-Dec-18 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
The open border state by capitalist logic thus has an always open source of cheap labor, unprotected by its own laws, while physically being on its soil, because enforcing those laws on those people would deport them anyways, most likely, so costs of labor are reduced, and they sell cheaper commodities on the open market and thus can claim a healthy economy.


[02-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lol capitalist logic.


[02-Dec-18 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Such is capitalism in the first place and capitalist interests. Those with the means and capital  to use spend it to protect their own interests.


[02-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[02-Dec-18 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
So thus: having now bought the government, use the capital they acquire normally to raise protections for themselves.


[02-Dec-18 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sure, they loose out on the ability to directly dynamite the opposition, but they can choke them and look good.


[02-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I only have one word to say... venezuala


[02-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how's venezuala a paradise of true socialism working out.


[02-Dec-18 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, I dunno. You tell me. 70% of the economy in private hands certainly doesn't look like socialism to me.


[02-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Mikey#7286
Venuzuela is more capital


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's effectivly 0%


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, it's 70


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's still more than enough rich bourgies to horde food and deepen the crisis.


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because the goverment can take whatever the hell they want that 70% is just the capital the govement has decided to not take yet.


[02-Dec-18 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Uh-huh, sure.


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Still, it's no more socialist than Norway.


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what's stopping them


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which owns the entire oil industry of itself


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's way more socialist than norway norway isn't socialist.


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno, probably another Bourgie riot, like right now?


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
It happened before.


[02-Dec-18 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
The oil companies in Venezuela have always popped a revolt whenever the government moved to tame them again.


[02-Dec-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
But even if the state were to seize it all, it doesn't neccesarily create socialism. It just shifts the burdens of capitalism on itself.


[02-Dec-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
It becomes in itself, state-capitalist.


[02-Dec-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Taking the surplus value of the worker's labor to create profit.


[02-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's literaly what socialism is


[02-Dec-18 02:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Granted profit which might be used on public services predecated on the assumption of democracy, but all the same; it's owned by a third party and not directly by the labourers themselves in democratic cooperation at the shop level.


[02-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump meanwhile has given more to corporations and tax cuts to the rich, cut funds to NASA and the EPA, shutting environmental programs because "climate change is a hoax" or "climate change is not an issue right now" even though it is, but hey he raised the GDP from 2% to 4%!


[02-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the people managing a nationalised company are never people who know what they're doing.


[02-Dec-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms:    leftism, welfarism; More
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms:    leftism, welfarism; More
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


[02-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we have the highest corperation tax in the entire world technicaly apple isn't an american company.


[02-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's also not socialism. It's state capitalism. The laborers at work have no say in that.


[02-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
oh and, inflating the already overbloated military budget


[02-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
since I'm not a trump syncophant I agree with you on the military budget.


[02-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
audit the pentagon and cut the spending to create a public option for america


[02-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that said I'm still glad he's president the UN just tried to violate our national sovriegnty in a huge way.


[02-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Mikey#7286
i think there are worse republicans than Trump and he's not even a conservative either, he's a Trumpservative


[02-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
but he's not a good president


[02-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's the best in my lifetime but that's not saying much because obama clintion and bush were all awfull


[02-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's a stepping stone to sanity. considiering something serious dosen't happen the GOP will reform away from regan to something else.


[02-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
he's not a sane person by any means lol, he might be better than bush and obama but that's a low bar


[02-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Arvid#8335
"stepping stone to sanity"


[02-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
he's a liar, a narcissist, a loudmouth, and acts like a child


[02-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
and a braggart


[02-Dec-18 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he worships the groudn dictators walk on


[02-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Arvid#8335
He's worse than Obama, and and about as equally bad as Bush.


[02-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
that's debatable if you ask me, bush was pretty fukin bad


[02-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Arvid#8335
What might make Trump worse than Bush is Trump's fanboys.


[02-Dec-18 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bush also had the added benefit of having emproor palpatine for VP


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he know's east asian politics if we want the world to be a better place we have to get our hands dirty.


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
name the country trump is invading.


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
he gave literal validation to a dictator whom he called "rocketman" not a year earlier


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Arvid#8335
He has plans to invade Iran.


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt know jack shit about east asia politics, he knows how to kiss ass and while that may work for 5 minutes he also throws tarrifs liek a rich lady with daddy issues throws cash around


[02-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah that's a big no no


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Arvid#8335
He's considering invading Iran.


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
trump doesn't know about our own politics


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
peace talks in korea seem to be a contradiction trump is a genocidal warmonger (which is what bush is)


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
he's a businessman


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
not a politician


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's last bit is why he won.


[02-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Kim Jon Un doesn't want peace


[02-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
he wants to continue his tyrannical dictatorship


[02-Dec-18 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim jong un put on a show for turmp, let him feel leik a big man for 2 minutes, and thne went bakc to doing what he was doing before turmp came to visit


[02-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you don't know that his actions are more indicative of him not wanting to have his head on a platter.


[02-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Arvid#8335
Obama tried to do peace talks with North Korea as well and got laughed out of the room by the same partisan Republicans who support Trump doing it.


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because obama is a weakling listen you have to show stregnth in that region.


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Arvid#8335
And no, running a country like a CEO is not a good thing


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
trump doesn't have strength either


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
he has big words


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if you wanna play east asia politics you gotta know the rules.


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is an elderly baby


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bush, Obama, Trump


[02-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All lapdogs for the House of Saud.


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Arvid#8335
"Weakling" lol Becuase Trump is the pinnacle of strength obviously


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was raised to win at all cost no matter the cost and nothign else, so whenever he loses he throws a national tantrum and cries for daddy


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
rule 1 no disrepect should be tolerated


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
obama was a doormat because he understood nothing.


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Arvid#8335
Can you elaborate on this?


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
we don't even need to watch the "fake news media" to see Trump is an 8 year old in a 72 year old's body


[02-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
just look at his twitter


[02-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Arvid#8335
So sorry Obama wasn't a true alpha male by your standards


[02-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's east asian politics in a progressive nutshell even women are held to this standard.


[02-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) not to mention he was never told "no" by papa and was given $30m untaxed dollars


[02-Dec-18 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes because east asian politics are the model of perfection in th epolitical world


[02-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
when obama went for his last state visit to china and nobody greeted him what he should have done is turn around and leave but nope like a little pussy he went to the meeting.


[02-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't make the rules and we don't live in an idealistic world. in international poltitics nobody but a fool is an altruist.


[02-Dec-18 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being rude is considered an alpha rule now


[02-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Arvid#8335
How does this show an understanding or non-understanding of east Asian politics?


[02-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ping was being rude first.


[02-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
intentionaly so as a sign of disrespect.


[02-Dec-18 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he shoudl have taken to twitter and bitched liek trump then?


[02-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yes absolutly international relations is a lot of cock waving in a metaphorical sense.


[02-Dec-18 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you don;t get anywhere int his world if you jsut wlak away when nobody wants you


[02-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but if you show weakeness everyone will take advantace.


[02-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Arvid#8335
Derpibooru mods are ABSOLUTELY CORRUPT and what I need is a TRADE WAR with them


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Arvid#8335
You hear that @Mikey IM STARTING A TRADE WAR WITH YOU


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
showing weakness is showing up for a meeting event hough no oen came to greet you?


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yes


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow you msut suck at job interviews then


[02-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because not sending an enterage to greet you is a sign of disrespect.


[02-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
internatonal relations =/= day to day in a western democracy.


[02-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's petty and dumb but in order to change it we gotta play the game and WIN.


[02-Dec-18 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is if he went home and gave up ebcause china didnt send an entourage, then that woudl be a worse sign of weakness


[02-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
to a westerner not an easterner.


[02-Dec-18 03:07 AM] moonatik#3676
i fuckin hate trump but i'm glad he's combating china to a degree


[02-Dec-18 03:07 AM] moonatik#3676
like the one actual foreign policy success of his


[02-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
all the stuff happens when I'm not here >:V


[02-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not all cultures are the same. and if you're not tough on the international stage than you will be taken for a ride.


[02-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
all the presidents aside from trump in my lifetime are basicly cowards who sold out america.


[02-Dec-18 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2175984/xi-jinping-says-cooperation-best-choice-both-sides-dinner

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US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping agree to a trade truce in their dinner meeting Saturday
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[02-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
clinton wasn't bad, he actually did a lot of good


[02-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
the only thing was that he got it oooooon


[02-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
NAFTA is universaly bad.


[02-Dec-18 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considerign this is trump i;m not sure this truce will last


[02-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Mikey#7286
nah


[02-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's economic surrender masqurading as free trade.


[02-Dec-18 03:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Clinton was still better than Trump


[02-Dec-18 03:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the point lost on the china thing is that he got concessions out of china. rule one of dealmaking demand everything and from there you can comprimise.


[02-Dec-18 03:12 AM] Arvid#8335
NAFTA is bad yes


[02-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Arvid#8335
Trump snuck in parts of the TPP into the NAFTA renogotiation though.


[02-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump is not the idiot he potrays himself to be in one respect he's like george W in that regard the intent is diffrent though.


[02-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
he is an idiot though


[02-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
but he's a special kind of idiot


[02-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he wouldn't be a multimillionare if he was an idiot. he would have pissed away his entire fortune it happens more than you think.


[02-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i said a special kind of idiot


[02-Dec-18 03:14 AM] moonatik#3676
really he's got no core philosophy


[02-Dec-18 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's an idiot with a penchant for dirty business


[02-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there are dummies out there who says he's sone kind of 4d chess god but I think he just knows how to bend a situation to his favor.


[02-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Mikey#7286
also one of the worst things Trump has done honestly is removing environmental regulations, we're harming the earth and you can't say we shouldn't be doing something about it


[02-Dec-18 03:15 AM] moonatik#3676
^


[02-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Arvid#8335
Trump is not smart at all. All he does is spout a bunch of stances that sound populist in hopes that people will vote for him.


[02-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Arvid#8335
And ramps up fears about immigration


[02-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the big problem I have with enviromentalists is that they point out a valid and often serious problem. and then offer the most absurd solutions imagineable.


[02-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is it "economic surrender" to agree not to tariff each other much and set rules on certain kinds of trade?


[02-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's economic surrender when you don't tariff but everyone else does


[02-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Arvid#8335
Trump is *manipulative*, but not smart


[02-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah please elaborate


[02-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not what NAFTA is


[02-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
NAFTA is an agreement for mutual non-tariffing in North America


[02-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it says nothing about tariffing other countries


[02-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why does canida tarrif our beef exports


[02-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because there are limited rules especially on food


[02-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
milk exporting is basically forbidden


[02-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO, we should just agree to hav completely free trade, not this minor rules mess


[02-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think EEA, but for North America


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then eventually remove the border guards between us and Mexico as we send troops to stop the cartels


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
to fix environmental issues we should be trying to reduce carbon emissions, invest in more solar power, use more biodegradable material, to name a few things


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make Mexico America 2


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
problem: co2 is accelerating the change of the earth's cimate
solution: a completly goverment top down soluition via carbon taxes on


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav it so trukks can go straight from it to Canada without being hassled


[02-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wow mate. that's a pretty radical position.


[02-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
idk if mexico is up for having it souvregnty removed.


[02-Dec-18 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
you are incapable of having a coherent argument


[02-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not losing your sovereignty to mutually agree to not strictly police certain borders


[02-Dec-18 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
every time someone points out a flaw in your argument you move the goalposts or try to redefine your terminology to exclude what was given in using such terminology


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not worth the time of people here to keep debating you


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yes it is. the EU need I say more or do you not pay attention the psychotic shit comming out of that dystopian hellhole


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
europe is full of open borders and all of those countries have sovreignity


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do need to say more


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
for how much longer


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joining the EU improves GDP


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hundreds of years?


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It creates more trade opportunities


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and this gdp increse means nothing because it only benifits the rich.


[02-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and allows more pooling of resources for certain tasks


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in the EU, it doesn't only benefit the rich


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
EU countries tend to be relatively equal compared to the rest of the world


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wow a central authority appointed by corrupt burracrats of an anti democratic institution


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and freedom of movement applies to *workers*, not just goods


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why are their economic figures plumeting.


[02-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
What economic figures for who?


[02-Dec-18 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
goalpost move


[02-Dec-18 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which figures are you talking about?


[02-Dec-18 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
did you know that germany has free college for out-of-country students because 59% of those students stay in germany


[02-Dec-18 03:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the EU their collective econonomy is collapsing fishing industry.


[02-Dec-18 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
terminology redefinition


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you know byte I'm gonna just ignore your projection and charachter defamation.


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
norway,ireland,france,germany,denmark,austria,finland,poland,sweden?


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scotland?


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
ad hominem


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you started it.


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Theadora Keshtah I dunno, you seem to be doing that all on your own easily enough


[02-Dec-18 03:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
"you are incapable of having a coherent argument" you five minutes ago


[02-Dec-18 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
if I called you a pretentious cocksucker who can't argue for shit that would be ad hominem


[02-Dec-18 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
that's so off topic it isn't even funny


[02-Dec-18 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
as it stands I'm just making an observation


[02-Dec-18 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
which I've supported with specific evidence


[02-Dec-18 03:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
call me when you're ready to be an adult


[02-Dec-18 03:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
anyways where were we.


[02-Dec-18 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to see these european figures


[02-Dec-18 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
european figures


[02-Dec-18 03:28 AM] Mikey#7286
if you can't provide evidence don't make a baseless claim


[02-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm fucking looking for it


[02-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
**What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence**


[02-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Mikey#7286
alright just let him look


[02-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also you people keep moving the fucking goalposts.


[02-Dec-18 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[02-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
are you sure you aren't looking in a mirror


[02-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
I know a guy named reppy who does that a lot


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Mikey#7286
>:V


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
>:V


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're litteraly making me laugh now


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Norway is not in the EU


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Mikey#7286
>open beak furled brow


[02-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Sweden is


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it manages its fishing just fine


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, much better than the US does


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fishing is near collapse off the northeast coast


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sweden and Finland had the same problem in the 90s


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
britan's fishing


[02-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they fixed it by working together and taking restrictive measures on fishing


[02-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how is that going differently, and is it the EU's fault?


[02-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would suspect not, given the UK is leaving the EU...


[02-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
While Sweden has no plans to leave


[02-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://www.focus-economics.com/regions/euro-area lots of data here

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https://www.focus-economics.com/sites/all/themes/focuseconomics/assets/img/logo-focuseconomics.png


[02-Dec-18 03:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the british fishing industry was lregulated out of existence.


[02-Dec-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's see https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/06/ukip-british-fishing-westminster-brussels-brexit

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/06/ukip-british-fishing-westminster-brussels-brexit
Ukip is wrong: British fishing answers to Westminster not Brussels...
The Brexiteers cry betrayal over UK fishing, but they peddle glaring myths about foreign boats and quotas, says John Lichfield, a former EU correspondent based in France
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5242d16bbce7ca37bfefccfc26ff68aeed9a658d/0_45_5760_3456/master/5760.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&s=f60d25125e29101c981e69190cd67e38


[02-Dec-18 03:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do me a favor and list a source that's not an opinion peice from a politicly driven rag


[02-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
or do I have to spend the next few hours telling you everything likely wrong in this article.


[02-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm looking at it for references to evaluate and general information to look up


[02-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main claims it's making are as follows:


[02-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 - The "loss" purported by the UK is largely that of fish in its waters that are fished by other nations...and always hav been, as 200 miles is a long distance


[02-Dec-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 - The main problems were overfishing due to improperly-high quotas and a dead-fish-release policy that made no sense, both of which are now being fixed


[02-Dec-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 - The fish stokks are no longer in decline


[02-Dec-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, we should find information supporting or rejecting these claims.


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the citations in this article alone my god it's just a circle jerk and basic bitch googling.


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Them Irish taking British fish. 😂


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
french.


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
them too


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we hav this https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/19/sustainable-british-cod-on-the-menu-after-stocks-recover

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Sustainable British cod on the menu after stocks recover
A recovery from near total collapse has led North Sea cod stocks to be labelled as sustainable by the Marine Stewardship Council for the first time in 20 years
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/71cb4baf227d3124529e78ddc940fd853823c162/0_352_5277_3166/master/5277.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=72d8ec86411e18408fb00f1bde8d8a98


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The problem with countries sharing waterspace so close together.


[02-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Highest level for 35 years as far as fish stokks


[02-Dec-18 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
seems like fishing stokks of cod aren't collapsing


[02-Dec-18 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So @Theadora Keshtah, can you clarify which of or neither of these claims is your argument?


[02-Dec-18 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, what aspect of UK fishing do you think is collapsing and how?


[02-Dec-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-fishing-fleet-nets-big-profits-in-best-performance-for-a-decade-g56dgsqzs

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-fishing-fleet-nets-big-profits-in-best-performance-for-a-decade-g56dgsqzs
UK fishing fleet nets big profits in best performance for a decade
Britain’s fishing fleet achieved its best economic performance since 2008 last year as it bounced back from the fallout of the Russian trade ban in 2014, according to a new report. Preliminary...
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F6bbae9b4-6a38-11e7-91b4-8977b98727e9.jpg?crop=5100%2C2869%2C0%2C266


[02-Dec-18 03:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Ukip said so.


[02-Dec-18 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gah, paywalled


[02-Dec-18 03:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
tbb linking gurdian articles is about the fastest way to get me to chuckle


[02-Dec-18 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[02-Dec-18 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you dispute the source for that article?


[02-Dec-18 03:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what source? there is no source just assertion.


[02-Dec-18 03:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
two links one to what is likely a politicaly partisan group and wikipedia the worst place to get information on anything.


[02-Dec-18 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
ICES


[02-Dec-18 03:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm dismmising their uncited sources because they're just assertions.


[02-Dec-18 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They cited the source under the graph


[02-Dec-18 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's The International Council for the Exploration of the Sea (ICES) btw


[02-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
remember the accusation about moving the goalposts...


[02-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am telling you point blank the article has a source


[02-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that the assertion comes from that source's data


[02-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you believe the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea is lying about UK cod fishing stokks?


[02-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
literaly just did it to me because I was never arguing about levels of fish I was arguing the profitiability of UK fisheries which this article suprisingly enough completly justifies my point.


[02-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then we should talk about the information of the other article


[02-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a fucking opinion peice with no citations to follow.


[02-Dec-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[02-Dec-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Sun Times article


[02-Dec-18 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, non-paywalled: https://www.humberbusiness.com/news/fishing-industry-records-best-economic-performance/story-6428-detail/story

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Fishing industry records best economic performance in a decade | H...


[02-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it boomed after a downturn and what caused this downturn?


[02-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that ultimately comes from this https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fishing-industry-in-2016-statistics-published

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Fishing industry in 2016 statistics published
The Marine Management Organisation (MMO) has published its annual UK sea fisheries annual statistics report 2016.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/67660/s300_Colorful_seaside_village_of_Brixham_Devon.jpg


[02-Dec-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good question


[02-Dec-18 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The downturn appears to start in 1970


[02-Dec-18 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the EU fishing rules only came in with the EEA in the 90s


[02-Dec-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless it is somehow the very act of the beginnings of the EU policy ideas (early 70s) caused the downturn, it appears to be unrelated


[02-Dec-18 03:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what if it did


[02-Dec-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be ridiculous


[02-Dec-18 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
most likely they would be caused by a third thing


[02-Dec-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
perhaps economic postwar recovery combined with technology


[02-Dec-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fishing tends to exist in a fragile balance where too much fishing can cause collapse


[02-Dec-18 03:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how could that drive fishing prices down it would make more sense that that would raise the profitability.


[02-Dec-18 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having fewer fish would raise the profitability?


[02-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
fish aren't like luxury goods


[02-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
consumers are highly sensitive to their price


[02-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will generally not buy high-priced fish


[02-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a consequence, price is relatively fixed, as is the cost to catch fish


[02-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if less fish are caught, profits decline


[02-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why didn't they catch more fish to shore up supply.


[02-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did...


[02-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's most likely why the fishing stokks collapsed


[02-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the more you catch, the less breed


[02-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
shoring up supply when you are at an unsustainable level leads to an extreme decline


[02-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what happened in Sweden too


[02-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and what's happening off the northeastern American coast


[02-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to reduce the fishing to let the fish stokks recover, at which point you can return to fishing


[02-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I might not be an expert on the fishing economy but I if I remember the big issue with the EU in refrence to fishing is that other nations just fished those waters that rightfully belonged to the UK


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But according to the 2016 report from the UK, 81% of fish caught in UK waters were caught by UK ships


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
remember we're supposted to be arguing about the EU.


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fishing-industry-in-2016-statistics-published

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Fishing industry in 2016 statistics published
The Marine Management Organisation (MMO) has published its annual UK sea fisheries annual statistics report 2016.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/67660/s300_Colorful_seaside_village_of_Brixham_Devon.jpg


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, linked above, but anyways


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
curiously after brexit happened.


[02-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
'UK caught the majority of its fish, 81% by quantity, in its own EEZ. With other EU member states’ EEZs being the next most important zone of capture, at 11% by quantity '


[02-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Brexit hasn't changed the regulatory state yet


[02-Dec-18 04:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Still in the EU after the vote. still in today.


[02-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this was from 2016


[02-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, I read that wrong


[02-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK caught some of its fish in OTHER countries' waters


[02-Dec-18 04:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
***gasp*** :Caddy:


[02-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the fishery thing is quite frankly a low importance issue with the EU far more serious things are at stake.


[02-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like what?


[02-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
national sovreignty for starters.


[02-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and not just EU member states


[02-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
How does mutual agreement on business access and lax border control violate sovereignty?


[02-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or is there some other aspect that does?


[02-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that last one is a brazen attack on national sovreignty. if a nation can't control it's borders it can't control itself.


[02-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That isn't what sovereignty is about


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You can control your borders if you are in the EU. UK still does. More so than any other country in the EU I would say.


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
in practice it's one of the big pillars of it


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sovereignty is authority to self-govern


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that includes the borders.


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
withink their borders, EU nations govern just fine


[02-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they govern people that cross into them


[02-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except in the case where the nation dosen't want someone in their nation.


[02-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every nation has restrictions upon itself with deciding who can be in it


[02-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US cannot simply declare X person can't be let in, if that person has valid reasons for entry etc.


[02-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but not if you sign up for the shengen area


[02-Dec-18 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they thye kindly escort and ban the unwanted  person out fo their naiton and put thme on a wathclist


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US constitution explicitly outlaws bills of attainder


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are used to apply the law differently to specific people


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is not a violation of sovereignty, it is self-imposed


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
likewise


[02-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's how it's supposed to work but people just barge in anyways and violate the law and our national sovreignty I've been avoiding using my post potent arguments but you're driving me to it.


[02-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
those countries signed up to be in the schengen area


[02-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They allow other EU citizens free travel


[02-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
well, anyone allowed to be in the EU, really


[02-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and now the UK wants to leave and the EU isn't letting it.


[02-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the EU has agreed to the Brexit deal


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
have you even read the brexit deal it's a non deal


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't mean the EU is preventing leaving


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK wanted those things


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
For various selfish reasons.


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK can leave. It is about a deal or no deal. EU will let them leave without a deal.


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you sure about that


[02-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, they can just completely leave without a deal if they want


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yes. they can't keep them in.


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has been on the table the entire time, explicitly


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they frankly should


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, they didn't.


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK wanted certain benefits of being in the EU, turns out


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite deciding to leave


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
therisa may betrayed the public


[02-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Leave side betrayed the public


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had ads on buses claiming that the money spent on EU programmes would instead go toward the NHS


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no they didn't the people wanted brexit and thanks to her capitulation they don't get it.


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that has not come to fruition, it was a lie


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Arvid#8335
"Bretrayed the public" like what every other conservative politician does


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Theresa May *reduced* NHS funding


[02-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody intended to follow thru on those bus ads


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a lie to attempt to get out so they could try to get all the benefits of the EU except the thing that let brown-colored workers come to the UK


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do I have to go over the laundry list of lies the remainers peddled


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Blame the EU for the UKs failings is pretty common in the UK.


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remain mainly talks about problems post-brexit


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
brexit hasn't happened yet


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what fucking benifits.


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traveling freely is a huge benefit


[02-Dec-18 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it never will without a political revolt


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means workers can move places to where they are most needed


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
as well, sharing of doctors and scientists provides direct benefits fot the UK to meet its needs


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
at the expense of people who live there.


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
their domestic ones are insufficient


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
goalpost


[02-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you saying having more workers where workers are needed is a detriment?


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
90s a bunch of joiners from the UK spent years in Germany and France working.


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
shut the hell up byte


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would consider that capitalist efficiency.


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
you can't tell me to shut up, I'm a mod :^)


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Mod abuse!


[02-Dec-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ultimate mod


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do you take this additude to your governing of derpibooru?


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
rule0


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the benefit of beign able to freely re-locate workers to where the wrok is, is that it allows a working infrustructure that fuels a larger economy


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you mean pointing out how you like to consistently redirect the conversation to a new argument?


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
is that a moderation action?


[02-Dec-18 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
have I banned you?


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
can I trust you not to ban me


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
answer no

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[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
you can't trust me not to ban anyone


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can you trust anyone, ever?


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The answer is no.


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah but sometimes you have to


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But being Ayn Rand is not great.


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I might just close my account there and warn my firends


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes you *hav to* trust.


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
stay away from your site.


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trust is a threat to national sovreignity


[02-Dec-18 04:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇰


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
ban me daddy


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should find Zennistrad


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy who left because Derpi was TOO CONSERVATIVE


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah stay away from derpibooru because i didn't ban you on the politics chat


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
cry me a river


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
because we didn't follow his social just-us BS


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean you're doing it again


[02-Dec-18 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
you've redirected my questions into a what-if


[02-Dec-18 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
lemon got knocked but that was more for stuff like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201822573238026240/515586928620470292/Screenshot_20181123-125657.png

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[02-Dec-18 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I only ever did one other person and that was because he was just copying the same line over and over


[02-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just testing your reslove you've aleviated my fears.


[02-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
honestly I think trying to convince this chat of anything political is a bit of a pointless exersice I'm going back to general to talk about ponies.


[02-Dec-18 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
your arguments aren't convincing


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
neither are yours


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
you're not building toward anything, you just keep throwing dirt around


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
***Whataboutery***


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's all incomplete logic and gut reactions


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe a few, but certainly not all


[02-Dec-18 04:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
***Loadofwaffle***


[02-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
before I give up on trying to argue my case let me pull out my biggest point about borders. invading armies.

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[02-Dec-18 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/27/big-blue-anti-brexit-bus-pulls-into-westminster-for-parliament-take-over-8183093/

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Big blue anti-Brexit bus pulls into Westminster for Parliament 'ta...
Campaigner's have demanded a people's vote.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/sec_41753199-20d43.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1200&h=630&crop=1&resize=1200%2C630&zoom=1

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[02-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if we're gonna critisize bus ads


[02-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that figure is so evidently bullshit it's not even funny.


[02-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe buses shouldn't hav ads on them


[02-Dec-18 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[02-Dec-18 04:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maybe bus ads are a bad medium for political discourse


[02-Dec-18 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast not political ads


[02-Dec-18 04:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it is the MPs that make 77% 77% of MPs appose Mays "deal"


[02-Dec-18 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like shampoo ads on a bus are fine


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
your point about invading armies?


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
No. We talking bout goalpost buses.


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
maybe we should set up some goalposts on top of the buses


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they violate borders by dint of existing in a territory without consent.


[02-Dec-18 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
so we can move the goalposts more efficiently


[02-Dec-18 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
by nature of being classified as an enemy force


[02-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also that bus statisitc is obviously a lie they take oppositiont to TM's surrender as evidence that people want to remain in the EU which is an insane leap of logic


[02-Dec-18 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2018/11/30/18119620/brexit-deal-uk-european-union-g20-may

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EU to UK: take the Brexit deal or else
Donald Tusk, the European Council president, is trying to help Theresa May sell her unpopular deal at home.
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[02-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
god I love how the title of that article makes the EU sound super evil


[02-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimatums are supposed to be mean.


[02-Dec-18 04:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.thebottleyard.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Production-_0002_Noel-Edmonds-DOND2.jpg

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[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take the deal or just dont leave!


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how about this ultimatum, better deal or the UK leaves you with nothing. the EU needs the UK than the other way around.


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is outright saying


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's okay with the UK leaving


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
deal or not


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is not in a position to bargain here


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK wanted these things


[02-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU wanted none of them


[02-Dec-18 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU has wanted to strip all EU provisions from the UK


[02-Dec-18 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
no economic area etc.


[02-Dec-18 04:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
This is like Patrick Star haggling for wishes.


[02-Dec-18 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like the burden isn't on the EU to try to get the UK to stay with a better deal


[02-Dec-18 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
If you want your arguments to be more convincing, you're going to have to either plan far in advance and take the time to educate yourself on the minute specifics of the situation, and make sure that what you are trying to argue is logically consistent and sound. Then you want to present that in a way that defines any necessary terminology, then provides information about the background, then argues the point. You want to do this in a way that allows you to defend yourself, but also accomodates for losses, because sometimes we make mistakes. Finally, you want to see if there a way to reconcile any errors you had, and concede if necessary.


[02-Dec-18 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
giving an argument is not unlike teaching a class but it's a class of three students and everyone asks questions


[02-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maybe if anyone would argue a coherent logical point which I'm still waiting for btw.


[02-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
better yet apply these standards to the media


[02-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Arvid#8335
Invading armies???

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[02-Dec-18 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I like this page for reference http://www.garlikov.com/teaching/nonfiction.htm


[02-Dec-18 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the UK basically wants to leave the EU but keep all the EU benefits it had under the alliance. The EU just wants them to make up their minds and either elave or present their deal and move forward


[02-Dec-18 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
No, see, when other people give arguments and back them up with evidence and citations, even with comparatively weak ones, you don't just get to say "no u"


[02-Dec-18 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just fuckign cancel brexit and stay


[02-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no they don't they want to leave the EU and leave the alleged benifits behind.


[02-Dec-18 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I get to say no u to reppy, and he to I, but that's about it


[02-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Arvid#8335
Just cancel Brexit and leave the EU at a better time. In theory I'm not against the UK leaving the EU, but at the time being, Brexit would basically give the UK a UKIP government.


[02-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a list of benifits the EU provides and open borders isn't one.


[02-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why all the hate for ukip let me guess bla bla bla racist sexist bla bla orange man bad.


[02-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah, I'm not going to support a crypto-fascist right wing party.


[02-Dec-18 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
1. 2+2=5
2. strawman


[02-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
who told ya that one hypno


[02-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ftr I've given up trying to convince byte of anything.


[02-Dec-18 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not convinced because your arguments suck


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Try saying something true or providing evidence


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Then I'd be inclined to agree


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
No u!!!!1!!!


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Arvid actually, UKIP is like dead now


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
they got what they wanted and now everybody else is mad


[02-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
membership seems to be going up


[02-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
so nobody's in UKIP, but all the other parties are dealing with the mess


[02-Dec-18 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/01/revealed-far-right-ukip-brexit-demo-organiser-convicted-kidnapper/

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Revealed: far-Right Ukip Brexit demo 'organiser' is a convicted ki...
A far right activist who claims to be one of the organisers of a Ukip rally and who attended a top level meeting with the party’s leader Gerard Batten has a conviction for attempted  kidnap, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2018/12/01/TELEMMGLPICT000182385153-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqEDjTm7JpzhSGR1_8ApEWQA1vLvhkMtVb21dMmpQBfEs.jpeg


[02-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lost MPs and membership over time


[02-Dec-18 04:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Got to remember that UK is 50-50 about stay or leave. No matter if they stay in or leave half the country will be unhappy. The deal May has available would annoy both sides. In the EU but no say or veto when it comes to voting.


[02-Dec-18 04:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think the deal would improve the EU...


[02-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Arvid#8335
Time to make everyone miserable


[02-Dec-18 04:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK money but no UK say. 👍


[02-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a premium article wow I should take that seriously.


[02-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43992681

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43992681
Local elections: The results in maps and charts
Labour has failed to take target councils in London, while the Conservatives have lost control of two councils.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/103A3/production/_101176466_voteshare-edited.v2-nc.png


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can see UKIP surge in 2013, then after 2017 it's just...gone


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Arvid#8335
@Theadora Keshtah Where do you get your news from?


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Daily mail?


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukip-commonwealth-spokesman-was-convicted-kidnapper-hxlmbqxzd0f

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukip-commonwealth-spokesman-was-convicted-kidnapper-hxlmbqxzd0f
UKIP Commonwealth spokesman was convicted kidnapper
The UK Independence Party was facing fresh membership embarrassment today after it emerged that its former Commonwealth spokesman had been jailed for seven years over a kidnap plot. Mujeeb ur...


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
an amalgamation of non media sources


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26019668

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26019668
Ex-UKIP spokesman led kidnap gang
A man who acted as UKIP's Commonwealth spokesman has served a seven-year jail sentence over a kidnapping in Pakistan, BBC Newsnight reveals.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/media/images/72733000/jpg/_72733631_72733587.jpg


[02-Dec-18 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
need more sources?


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
***Alternative facts***


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Arvid#8335
"non-media sources" What the fuck does that even mean?


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
people on the internet


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
"non-media sources" lmao


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's all these media outlets are they masqurade as credible when they're not.


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
FOX or CNN?


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
both are bad


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so random forum posts hold the truth?


[02-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
both lie constantly


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Earth if flat guys.


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
UKIP membership has spiked a bit recently


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Arvid#8335
People on the internet are still media sources


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
right after Theresa May showed the actual plans lol


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
after one of my news sources signed up.


[02-Dec-18 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
so you've admitted that you don't follow what is considered an authoritative eventually-consistent source of facts


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nobody want's to talk about the membership spike they got after a dozon political youtubers joined.


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Ben Shapiro has the facts.


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
ben shapiro destroy me daddy

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[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
oof


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ben shapiro is a good meme I personaly don't like him.


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] moonatik#3676
political youtubers are a fucking meme lol


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Mikey#7286
Ben Shapiro destroys liberals


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Arvid#8335
Flat earth is truth da media is lyin' to yah dawg


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] moonatik#3676
the vast majority of them are garbage demagogues


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ben shapiro wouldn't know a liberal if one came up and bit him in the ass.


[02-Dec-18 04:45 AM] moonatik#3676
and the few who actually present coherent arguments are just shouted down


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
by the msm


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
`so you've admitted that you don't follow what is considered an authoritative eventually-consistent source of facts`


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
constantly


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
use of term `msm`


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
authoratative. newspeak much.


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
authoritative is the word for it


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] moonatik#3676
>people disagree with me


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] moonatik#3676
LITERAALLY 1984


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
remember these msm people are human too.


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Mikey#7286
CNN and Fox may be bad, but Alex Jones is the cream of the crop when it comes to bad media outlets


[02-Dec-18 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
I too don't trust the authority of methylsulfonylmethane


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
indeed they are human


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also their job to get it right


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
nonethelss i don't trust the "MSM"


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they're also idologicaly insane


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
by and large


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Mikey#7286
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/239/110/8a8.gif

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[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
ideology doesn't matter when it comes to facts


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
>it's also their job to get it right


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
uhhh no?


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they omit facts


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
it's their job to present the worldview of the people who fund them lol


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lie by omision is still a life.


[02-Dec-18 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not using dialectics to differentiate the "facts" from multiple news sources and obtain peak German idealism.


[02-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh I'd rather listen to a studio that gives biased opinions than one that spouts crazy conspiracy theory b.s.


[02-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
continnental philosophy is bunk


[02-Dec-18 04:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Alex Jones is trust worth source not associated with "the media" he has the Alternative facts "the media" wont tell you. 🏳️‍🌈 🐸


[02-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
cnn spouts crazy conspiricy theories and they have a studio


[02-Dec-18 04:48 AM] moonatik#3676
don't stick to a single news outlet generally


[02-Dec-18 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
1. lie by omission is not a lie, and it's not something that any news network wants to be caught dead doing because of the "scoop" bias
2. the more reputable journals rarely if ever omit facts except in breaking news where the facts may not be verifiable


[02-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I honestly use alex jones as a sanity checker ie if something he says sounds sane it's probably sane.


[02-Dec-18 04:49 AM] moonatik#3676
byte


[02-Dec-18 04:49 AM] moonatik#3676
that's just not true


[02-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Mikey#7286
nothing he says is sane


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
@moonatik it's not true for non-reputable journals


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
fox and cnn are consistently guilty of this


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and where to these reputations come from.


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
as is economist etc.


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] moonatik#3676
every outlet has a bias, that's simply unavoidable


[02-Dec-18 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the reputations come from the perception of the journals


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
also, i'm pretty sure Alex Jones only does what he does for a profit, he's a scam artist, I mean after his episodes he always showcases some product


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so the reptutation of a journalst comes from the perception of journalists.


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
no, from the perception of informed people who read them


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] moonatik#3676
SOYBOYS LEFTISTS ARE THE EVIL


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] moonatik#3676
anyway but my supplements


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] moonatik#3676
*note: they contain soy*


[02-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and they're dieing so hard that they have to paywall stories


[02-Dec-18 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
do you know why they're dying?


[02-Dec-18 04:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't fully trust the BBC. Depending on which branch of BBC you use the story can be different. "Allegedly"


[02-Dec-18 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not because people don't trust them


[02-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Mikey#7286
"buy my man power energy drink!"


[02-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're habitual liars that even I as a total moron can see right through.


[02-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nile#1441
Without their gay paywall, they won't be making much money since no one reads the newspaper.


[02-Dec-18 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It's actually because people used to pay for newspapers


[02-Dec-18 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
and now with online stuff nobody wants to pay for them


[02-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why would I pay for a string of lies why do I need them when I can just find the statistics myself


[02-Dec-18 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
not because anything else has changed


[02-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Nile#1441
Some people pay camwhores monthly on Patreon, people will pay money for whatever they want.


[02-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why anyone pays for obvious spindoctoring is beyond me.


[02-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you know you're a free thinker when you dissent against even your most trusted news sources which I do.


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
is all of it lies and omissions?


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Tecuane#0001

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[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
pretty much an outlet tends to develop a culture I find.


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Mikey#7286
people also pay for porn on patreon and shit too

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[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
okay, but that doesn't answer my question


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
>echoes 🤔


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
is all of it lies and omissions?


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
Isn't that a bit... ***anti-semitic***


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Tecuane#0001
im jewish


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Tecuane#0001
so probably not


[02-Dec-18 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
no you're not


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the pretty much was the answer


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
did u just assume my religion byte


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
it was not an answer


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
imagine being such a bigot


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
ur a goddang aussie


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nile#1441
(((Arcaire))) :Cakelestia:


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the legit alt right is just funny to laugh at.


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
is all of it lies and omissions?


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
at your age


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
you are too young to be a bigot


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
piss off


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
mate


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
young padawan


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
majority yes


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
how big of a majority?


[02-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
semantics


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
enough for me to dismiss them out of hand.


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
Alt-right is dumb.


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
no it isn't


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
Either become tradcon or be a liberal


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
do you think that even when media sources report on objectively verifiable facts such as the election results or an earthquake or a war


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they are necessarily "getting it wrong"


[02-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
* is already a liberal*


[02-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Arvid#8335
@Nile No become a Nazbol you scrub


[02-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Nile#1441
Monbol gang is better


[02-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yep remember dewey beats truman


[02-Dec-18 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I do remember it


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
do you know what happened the next day?


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
they published a retraction


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
media sources are eventually consistent


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Nile#1441
I don't like defending mainstream news, but they do offer retractions if enough smoke is blown up their ass.


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except for a big one they're all lying about


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
did bloomberg ever retract their article about the hardware implants


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
to this day.


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
which were totally retarded


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
and utterly infeasible


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
no, I don't think so


[02-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
cancelled my sub after that


[02-Dec-18 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
only bloomberg reported on that one


[02-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Nile#1441
Subbing to newspapers lmao 😂


[02-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
>not getting it for free via a premium credit card


[02-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
sorry champ thats a tko


[02-Dec-18 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the other thing about media: you have to read many, inform yourself, and take away at least whatever conclusions they agree on


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Nile#1441
Why pay when I can go to literally any other free news website 🤔


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
when it's an issue the elites have an intrest or goes against the ideology they will lie and continue to lie


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
better reporting and research usually


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
other newspapers reported on the infeasibility and expert opinions of the chip implants


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats why i cancelled it even if it was free


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
i changed my sub


[02-Dec-18 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
@Theadora Keshtah point to examples of this?


[02-Dec-18 05:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Which one claimed PewDiePie was a Nazi and caused the ad problems for youtube? Did that get a retraction?


[02-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
usualy it's about things we argue veametly about in this chat. so idk


[02-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wsj


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
a reasonable baseline is "the facts in this journal are verified by other sources"


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they also lie about their youtube competetors on a fairly regular basis


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
which journals are exceedingly good at


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
bullshit. they just circlejerk eachother.


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't trust forebes to cite themselves


[02-Dec-18 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
except in the case of scoops, they do not


[02-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what about phantom issues they just fabricate and call a scoop.


[02-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Nile#1441
Trump has two scoops with his ice cream and also eats pizza with a knife and fork.


[02-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Nile#1441
Hard-hitting journalism


[02-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
broke: reading free journals


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
what are you talking about?


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
woke: reading for-pay journals that make enough to not have to pander


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
bespoke: reading no journals and travelling to incidents yourself to verify every fact


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
admire ur dedication harazu


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the child detention issue a few months back entierly a phantom issue concoted by the media class.


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they just scrape twitter these days


[02-Dec-18 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
which one? you mean the trump administration border separation policy?


[02-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
yep


[02-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
all of the collectivly ommited key details


[02-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Nile#1441
Like what


[02-Dec-18 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
like...


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't even have anything to do with your point. you said it was a phantom issue


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what stage of bullshit to start at because there's a ton wrapped up in just this one case


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the reality of it is they were removing children from their parents and sending them to camp out in an abandoned walmart building


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
>read someones opinion in a journal


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
good point as any then.


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
>misinterpret it as fact


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know how that's a phantom issue


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
>journals...


[02-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
>are bad


[02-Dec-18 05:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
>thanks for coming to my tedx


[02-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
key detail ommited: that was footage of a temporary 12-24 hour holding area untill they could be transfered to a more permamnent holding facility while their parent's papers were being processed.


[02-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Nile#1441
Look at these poor kids in cages 😭 😭 Blotard Blormpf needs to be impeached!


[02-Dec-18 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
to my recollection it ended up not being so temporary


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
iirc it was weeks+


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but even if I cited sources on that you wouldn't accept them


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
because you don't think the "mainstream media" are reputable


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
infowars dot com


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
only reputable source


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
if its on there you know its $100% true


[02-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what most of the big media outletes never showed was the acctual long term facility these kids were held at. which quite honestly look more pleasent than most homeless shelters.


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
because even for the time it was done it was an unacceptable consequence of an unconscionable act


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
family separation is not OK


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the big help of the professional political youtuber is that he/she has time to parse through this bullshit.


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane you want to take this?


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
nigga i quit the staff over less than this


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
you think i want to tard wrangle without the ability to ban?


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
just shitpost


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
i do that one for free


[02-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the reason they seperated them was because of reports of child traffiickers using these kids to get into the US.


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
you gotta go out or something?


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I gotta go to bed


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
its only 11pm


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
on a saturday


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I have shit early tomorrow


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
fair


[02-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Nile#1441
The whole child separation thing is part of why I think birthright citizenship is stupid.


[02-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
good news donald is optioning ending it mostly that exists because of a misreading of one of the amendments.


[02-Dec-18 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
you mean the 14th, where it says people born in the US are citizens?


[02-Dec-18 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


[02-Dec-18 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
can't make this shit up, go read it


[02-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the intent of the amendment was to give blacks and native americans citizenship.


[02-Dec-18 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
absolutely agree with you on that


[02-Dec-18 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
however, it doesn't limit itself to that


[02-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when Trump said he would repeal that via EO?


[02-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Vaporware.


[02-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't stop a blue wave in the House.


[02-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
39 seats, possibly 40. Best since Watergate. Absolutely was a wave election.


[02-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if you call them barely taking the house by lower than expected margins a blue wave


[02-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how's the senate lookin


[02-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, best in decades. It was better than 2006.


[02-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit.


[02-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So we get gridlock.


[02-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any moderate Democrat got voted out except of WV


[02-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
tell that to slothkin


[02-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Arvid#8335
what


[02-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Arvid#8335
slothkin


[02-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
she got her as kicked by the republican because she's a radical crazy


[02-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I refuse to pronounce her name right


[02-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Tecuane#0001
at this point arguments about trump are worse than actually having to deal with trump as a president


[02-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Tecuane#0001
at least


[02-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Tecuane#0001
for me on the other side of the world


[02-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans succeeded in 2018 in the sense that they removed all Democrats who would possibly toe the line.


[02-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Arvid#8335
Who is Harazu talking about


[02-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has committed impeachable offenses. Then again, so did Clinton, Bush, and Obama.


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
bullshit prove it


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Tecuane#0001
>people who can barely pay rent arguing that trump is going to magic up some fix for it all over every crevice of the internet


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
muler can't even prove it


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Tecuane#0001
c h r i s t


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Tecuane#0001
here we have mandatory voting and we just universally agree that one party are fuckwits every 8 years or so


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Arvid#8335
lmao, he fired a guy for trying to investigate him.


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and he's had 50 million dollars and yers to piss away


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump told his attorney to commit campaign finance fraud. That is enough.


[02-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
citation needed


[02-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Arvid#8335
Trump's administration is one of the most corrupt in recent years


[02-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
citation needed again.


[02-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
imagine flailing this wildly to defend someone who wouldnt do you a favour if it saved their kfc


[02-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
you dont earn enough


[02-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller has gotten convictions that would ruin any other president.


[02-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would not be surprised big 10-15 years from now a Democratic president appoints Mueller to SCOTUS.


[02-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
one conviction confirmed for crimes done ages before trump was a political item he was also fired during the campaign I can't help but wonder why


[02-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair, Cohen went to the shittiest law school in America.


[02-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Nile#1441
Still thankful I live in Canada.


[02-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By a mile.


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
still wont visit america


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nile#1441
Even if stuff is expensive


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
enjoy your hatespeech bullshit.


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Arvid#8335
What??? lmao


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nile#1441
I won't, and I don't.


[02-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'll stick with being thought of being moraly deficient by borderline commies and retaining my freedom.


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont have a reaction image for this


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
i wish i did


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Nile#1441
Parliament Hill can wank one off for all I care, they're incompetent and silly.


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Tecuane#0001

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/518645340610756608/c31.png


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
there we go


[02-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Arvid#8335
What borderline commies? How are you retaining your freedom?


[02-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we got a first amendment you don't have fun with the modern thoughtcrime


[02-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
hows that health insurance looking


[02-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
oh wait is that hate speech?


[02-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
idk if im allowed to say that


[02-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Arvid#8335
That wasn't an answer Harazu, lol


[02-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
1a and 2a are basically the only thing most americans care about


[02-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
you could gun them down in the street and theyd still feel more free


[02-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I care about all of them getting sick to death of the attack on the third I think


[02-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
sick to death?


[02-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
sounds like you need some obamacare


[02-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
my bad the 4th


[02-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you mean nixons doa "health reform"


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Arvid#8335
Also, no you can't get in trouble for thought crime, your thoughts are your own. When you say your opinion out loud for the world to hear though, then it becomes open to criticism.


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Arvid#8335
Mind you, this isn't to say you should be arrested for your opinions.


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
idk


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
some people should be


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
their opinions are just that terrible


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
too much bad opinion juice


[02-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Arvid#8335
lol


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
your collective idioicy is litteraly driving me to chuckling fits.


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
wow i can hear how big your penis is


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
which of the four homes you own in cash are you in? i cant really hear you so i must be at the wrong one


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Arvid#8335
You've done nothing to back up anything you say. @Theadora Keshtah


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
or are you on a daytrip to maralago


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
that might be why i cant hear you very well


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Arvid like a modified version of chinas social credit system


[02-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
where if you say retarded shit online it goes down


[02-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
that would be good


[02-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Arvid#8335
lol


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] set the topic pls


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
since i cant do that now


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
well I tried 😆


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
?


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
back to your university repayments boy


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] set topic "your collective idioicy is litteraly driving me to chuckling fits"


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
its top tier


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nile#1441
This is why we need to overthrow the US government and replace it with something better.


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[02-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Tecuane#0001
i wasnt asking


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I wasn't listening


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
o-oh


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
🤔


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
gottem


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ftr I'm mocking you because you're not even making arguments anymore


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
no u!1!1


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also my internet might die


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane it's repentantanon in political argument form


[02-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not mocking you byte


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont really care if im being mocked by someone posting in the polidicks section of a pastel pony appreciation station


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
like


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Arvid#8335
Your internet killed itself for your own good, so you'd stop posting bad opinions here


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
unless you show some evidence that you are even earning an income


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
i only shitpost


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
```
15:14:35     <RepentantAnon>    no pegasik fak off >:V
15:14:40     <RepentantAnon>    i dont want u
15:24:02     <@byte[]>    yes u do
15:27:06     <RepentantAnon>    no fak u
15:28:04     <@byte[]>    no fak u
15:31:47     <RepentantAnon>    no u
15:32:13     <%Mikey>    suk my dic Reppy
15:33:02     <RepentantAnon>    >:/\
```


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
and i dont process even one thing that is said in return


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
i just type


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea thats pretty close


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
what happened to him anyway


[02-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
did his microwave explode


[02-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
lel


[02-Dec-18 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I think so


[02-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Tecuane#0001
r i p


[02-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how about I put in some money to get you a ticket to venezula the truest socialism as said so by vox.com


[02-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
i mean


[02-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
sure


[02-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
>vox


[02-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
why not


[02-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
i havent been to vz yet


[02-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
i just got back off an apac tour though


[02-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
so like gimme a couple months


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
🇻🇪


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the endorsement of vox means nothing to me. but it means something to you guys it seems


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
seriously guys


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
japan


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
was lit


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
100% recommend it


[02-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the purpose of the 14th amendment: It did not cover native americans as they were not at the time within US jurisdiction, it was meant mainly for blakks, but it was deliberately a catchall so that once people are here and raising families, there is no question of citizenship.


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was created in an environment with a drunken, crazy south-loving president during reconstruction


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The North wanted none of The South acting like slavery was still a thing


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they went hard into civil rights


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
to all the democrat lovies out there look up the crookshank desicision


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it'll reveal who the real racists are.


[02-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Arvid#8335
What does Vox have to do with any of this?


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 14th amendment was designed as the ultimate civil rights amendment


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
im rly glad people like you cant get into my country


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
for real


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess vox said venezuela is socialist


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it still has ramifications that come out today because of it's equal protection clause.


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
the facade of pretending its a deadly shithole is falling


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
thanks to (((the internet)))


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I think I'll pass on the PC dystopia


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
"socialist" is almost completely meaningless


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont live in canada


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah because 70% private sector is totally socialist


[02-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
it has to be true hypno


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOT ONE HUNDRED REEEEEEEE


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
he read it and VERIFIED IT


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
himself


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
obviously


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
remember? he doesnt take anything at face value


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
he must have verified™ it


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He flew to Venezuela? His arms must be tired.


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, then I guess it's time I hung up my own [casual] journalist hat


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
My job got stolen by a guy on the internet


[02-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Tecuane#0001

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[02-Dec-18 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
time to go take up arms for the glory of the  Kurdish Resistance!


[02-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Arvid#8335
It's not like the socialist party was elected in the first place because unregulated capitalism and oligarchies were screwing over Venezeula already


[02-Dec-18 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRkSdX1ItA

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[02-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
South American politics are entirely like


[02-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right wants to go full Banana Republic


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left wants to do that except with some free stuff


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
jeez, I doze off and suddenly arcaire outta fucking nowhere


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Tecuane#0001
always watching


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Tecuane#0001
i wait for stupid arguments


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The center wants half free stuff, double genocide


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Tecuane#0001
i was waiting for something to compile in reality


[02-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm still waiting too.


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, everyone's stupid, power swings every few decades or so, and people get murdered in the streets


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
what for


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's okay because ______


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
if you are expecting a modicum of effort into arguments from me


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Arvid#8335
And the crisis didn't happen because of Venezuala's over-reliance on oil, no no it's because of *S O C I A L I S M* obviously.


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
ask anyone with a blue name


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
they will verify


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
unless i respect you i dont bother


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
you know, I think if the USSR and germany were capitalist during WW2 people would be saying "capitalism kills people!"


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Nile#1441
ur argument sux @Tecuane


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
probably


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Venezuela deal is just some guy realized he could go from bus driver to president and then once there could do watever


[02-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so he became king basically


[02-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
really bad chekks and balances


[02-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Arvid#8335
Politics are often life or death for people in South America, it's not like in America or Europe.


[02-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
because since every "communist/socialist" country that existed was ran by dictators that had nothing to do with the ideology they kill millions


[02-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once you hav sufficient dictatorship conditions, you really don't need much to keep it up on any pretense you can make


[02-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
socialism didn't kill millions, Stalin did


[02-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The presence of armed militias that were in part created by the CIA helps


[02-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot


[02-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Arvid#8335
I'll counter the notion that the USSR and China where socialist/communist.


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Arvid#8335
I'm gonna sound like Commune here


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they are hypno


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe they were but the ideology or political system is irrelevant


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Arvid#8335
But uh, they still had the law of value, commodity production, social classes, ect.


[02-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism is abhorrent


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is like the worst form of communism


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it happened because Stalin was able to get rid of his opponents


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Arvid#8335
The means of production where controlled by the state, not the working class.


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was to be expected


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
you can't say a political system killed people because they aren't people


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's the logical end conclusion of handing over so much power to the state.


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
for a while, the deal was the party came to a decision after debate


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
then debate was shut down


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
socialism is just feudalism with a modern coat of paint


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nile#1441
:Cakelestia:


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this system where nothing could be challenged after it was done invited complete control if you could stop debate


[02-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin had the will


[02-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
by that logic I could argue capitalism has killed people, too


[02-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he ended debate


[02-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Arvid#8335
They can't be communist if there was a state, the state's existence is the result of class society.


[02-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Nile#1441
Statist forever :Upvote:


[02-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Arvid#8335
Juche forever


[02-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're never gonna get a classless society it's against human nature.


[02-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Arvid#8335
um, no it's not. In the grand scheme of things social classes are a pretty recent thing


[02-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
bullshit. hierarchy is the norm


[02-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social classes are basically how society functions


[02-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem is when you make classes at the bottom basically unlivable and far from those at the top


[02-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
absolutly no species in our entire kingdom lack a hirerachy.


[02-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Arvid#8335
You could perhaps argue that there's no going back from established social classes, but I wouldn't call them "human nature".


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Arvid#8335
Even if they are, just because it's "nature" doesn't automatically make it good or desirable.


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Arvid#8335
It's possible for something to be both bad and natural.


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah you know you don't sound like a liberal


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Nile#1441
Promoting hierarchy is a pretty trad thing to do... :Upvote:


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nobody in this chat sounds like a liberal.


[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjpvPSKkLw

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Capitalism Has No End Game and We're All Doomed :)
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[02-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Nile#1441
'cuz I'm not.


[02-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what to liberals belive.


[02-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I mean real liberals not american lexicon because the the american lexicon is absolutly wrong.


[02-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Nile#1441
I'm literally a tradcon monarchist :Cakelestia:


[02-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
not holding onto outdated and dumb traditions


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
progressives belive that too but they're absolutly not liberals


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
although given the age of their ideologies they might even be disqualified from that.


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Arvid#8335
How are progressives not liberals?


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
the same way that conservatives are centrists


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
somehow


[02-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Nile#1441
Either you're a progressive, or you're a reactionary. Which one will you choose


[02-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
one just one point censorship. liberals oppose all censorship progressives want to ban all hatespeech.


[02-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Tecuane#0001
how do you lift a brush that broad


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Tecuane#0001
what the fuck is your bench at if you can do that


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hierarchies are a natural things but usually hierarchies are supposed to benefit the species and not just the top of the chain


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Mikey#7286
centrists that think religion should be mandatory and there shouldn't be separation of church and state, opposing scientific research, etc


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Mikey#7286
but yeah conservatives are centrists


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I oppose almost all censorship, certainly all based on message


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Mikey#7286
kek


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what utter horseshit


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Arvid#8335
Liberal is actually a pretty broad term. It doesn't encompass just one thing.


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I must warn you


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
my system of ethics puts me far outside mainstream on particular issues


[02-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Nile#1441
I'm fine with some censorship.


[02-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting to the root of my liberalism would probably get nuts.


[02-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also like;


[02-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
centrists are secularists


[02-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think borders are a somehwat necessary evil.


[02-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a start.


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same nebbie we need them now more than ever though as the world slips back into illeiberal tyrany


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand my meaning


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nile#1441
@Theadora Keshtah Anyone left of center is going to be a secularist


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The stress is on "evil"


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And "somewhat"


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
borders are fine


[02-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
fuck off we're full


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
same with right of center


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Nile#1441
Incorrect.


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theonion.com/angela-merkel-admits-she-only-attending-stupid-work-con-1830780189

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[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except for the radical libertarian right


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Nile#1441
I'm rather far-right by most metrics and I'm not a secularist.


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hope for the day borders are little more than semantics


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no idea where i am on the spectrum


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like talking about "Germany"


[02-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Mikey#7286
secularism is necessary


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to draw a line to define what area you mean


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
left right dichotomy is an irrelevent tribalistic distinction


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm honestly center-left


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nile#1441
Pleb :Downvote:


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I don't think that line should, ideally in the far future, carry any legal weight


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I consistently fall on the center left but my extremeism is on the libertarian end.


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
like I support some gun ownership for one thing


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
but I'm obviously for LGBT rights and marriage


[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3CEG0v0.png

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Never Remember
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[02-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We unfortunately need jurisdictional physical boundaries right now for some purposes.


[02-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Nile#1441
I've got a lot of reactionary views and such.


[02-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Arvid#8335
"I consistently fall on the center left" are you sure about that?


[02-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
far future after the ethos of the liberal world overtakes all the old totalitarian ideologies are finnaly in the dusts can we unite as a single nation and the future world goverment already has the means to allow in new territories and states.


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Nile#1441
Should take one of those compass tests 😎


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've taken the political compass test a lot and I don't budge much from on the left right area


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
compass puts me further down and left than Gandhi


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Arvid#8335
The political compass test is not good for figuring out your political leaning


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351

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[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent taken one of those tests


[02-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
take this quiz


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Arvid#8335
Everyone gets the same result


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Nile#1441
>same result


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Nile#1441
I'm not the same as Harazu here


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the only thing that's changed over the years is slight movement upward


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
that one's much more accurate than a shitty 2D graph that makes little sense


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve takent hat test and it told me i was a marxist communalist


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Taking the compass seriously is the ultimate form of ideology.


[02-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Arvid#8335
^this


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Arvid#8335
lol


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure i;m not a marxist communalist


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Nile#1441
Sure you are


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
The ultimate form of actually figuring shit out is to read an honest to god damn book


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
good books are hard to come by


[02-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/2znaeyljgt501.jpg

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[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not going straight for the primary sources as political self-education, but instead relying on someone whose game-of-telephoned some subject matter fifty times.


[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
This too is peak ideology


[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Arvid#8335
*Reading bad*


[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Nile#1441
Gay, even


[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdxBh4ZUeM

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Aleesb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdxBh4ZUeM
Le Chant Du Depart
French Revolutionary Song. Long live the republic! I am aware that this painting is from Delacroix's Liberty Leading the People; it happens to be evocative o...
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[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just go borrow the primary sources from the library you worm


[02-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Nile#1441
I learn from the internet 😎


[02-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJA5mSK53YI

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Jeroen Thijs
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Napoleon Total War Theme Song
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[02-Dec-18 06:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or what all the cheap phil students use. http://libgen.io/

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Genesis
Genesis is a scientific community targeting collection of books on natural science disciplines and engineering.


[02-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Arvid#8335
Start with The Wealth Of Nations by Adam Smith if you're intrested in liberalism and capitalism


[02-Dec-18 06:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Adam "REGULATE THE CAPITALIST, DAMN IT" Smith


[02-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Nile#1441
Begome trad


[02-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Arvid#8335
Just, whatever you do, don't read Ayn Rand


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how many people recognize the irony of the statement "radical centrist" at first glance


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Me https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-5.88&soc=-6.31


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=9B04ECB0B1633A87DE742197A7D3A1CE

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Genesis
Genesis is a scientific community targeting collection of books on natural science disciplines and engineering.


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as left as Gandhi, but lower down


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's funny, really


[02-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I constantly argue for the state and its regulations


[02-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I'm anti-authoritarian


[02-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
this one's me from like a year ago or something https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.0&soc=-5.49

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[02-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the thing is, I want the state to fukk off in social matters, but protect us from businesses and other organizations that would not fukk off


[02-Dec-18 06:17 AM] Nile#1441
boi

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[02-Dec-18 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[02-Dec-18 06:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Niles not much better than the standard Republican or Democrat.


[02-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
@Crow you're right about that test it's pretty accurate


[02-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
what was yours?


[02-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
classical liberalism


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
mine was radical centrism


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Arvid#8335
"Since every single time they try to do the government’s job it’s better for everyone, what’s so bad about corporations?" @Nebbie From a conversation I had with an anarcho-capitalist earlier today


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-1&2=-2&3=-1&4=-1&5=-2&6=1&7=2&8=-2&9=-2&10=-1&11=1&12=2&13=-1&14=-1&16=-2&17=1&18=2&19=1&20=-2&21=2&22=2&23=2&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=-2&28=2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-1&37=2&38=-2&39=2


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Nile#1441
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=1&3=2&4=-2&5=-1&6=2&7=1&8=1&9=2&10=1&11=2&12=-2&13=-2&14=1&16=-2&17=-1&18=-2&19=0&20=-1&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=1&28=1&29=-1&30=1&31=2&32=1&33=0&34=-2&35=-1&36=-2&37=-2&38=2&39=2 womp


[02-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just bring up the censorship of conservatives to this guy hypno he'll have to react


[02-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Nile#1441
I'm a fascist Juche according to the sextant


[02-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
... kemalism?


[02-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Nile#1441
The ideas of Ataturk


[02-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Arvid#8335
Kermit The Frog-ism


[02-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemalism

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[02-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
aka jordan petersonism


[02-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
clean your room


[02-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Nile#1441
Bucko


[02-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
@Arvid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMViTfNPkQ

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Nova 乡
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMViTfNPkQ
I am going to Kermit suicide
original vid by Jameskii https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPfjB94mhe8Gsnd9qIzUKHA vid of kermit jumping of without editing (jameskii): https://www.youtube.co...
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[02-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Arvid#8335
; (


[02-Dec-18 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXy3emGbxHg

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Sam O'Nella Academy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXy3emGbxHg
Mass Hysteria Throughout History
Shoutout to my pop filter for not working AT ALL Check out Cheddar here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC04KsGq3npibMCE9Td3mVDg Cheddar Desire Path video: ...
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[02-Dec-18 06:25 AM] Nile#1441
Glad that more people are watching Sam O'Nella


[02-Dec-18 06:26 AM] Mikey#7286
here's mine


[02-Dec-18 06:26 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-4.0&soc=-3.79


[02-Dec-18 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
"until basically the entire nunnery was exchanging meows like a group of communist trading card enthusiasts"


[02-Dec-18 07:06 AM] Arvid#8335
Everyone gets the same result on the political compass test


[02-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's why political sextant is better


[02-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
though I think it needs more questions


[02-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
the fact that I got 75% on three different ideologies is strange


[02-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/


[02-Dec-18 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[02-Dec-18 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Oh wow that spammed, thought it'd sit em together nicely, soz


[02-Dec-18 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Did Ur test tho


[02-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[02-Dec-18 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Commie gang


[02-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Nile#1441
No


[02-Dec-18 07:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
Liberals BTFO


[02-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
that's a lotta anarchy


[02-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nile#1441
Reactionary gang


[02-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nile#1441
Rise up


[02-Dec-18 07:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-2.63&soc=-2.15 about as I expected.

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[02-Dec-18 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
getting close to the glorious radical centrism there


[02-Dec-18 07:28 AM] byte[]#2610

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[02-Dec-18 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-6.0&soc=-5.69

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The Political Compass
explanation of the Political Compass model


[02-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
swap out those bottom two and it would be pretty accurate


[02-Dec-18 07:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[02-Dec-18 10:03 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I remember my results


[02-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I’m left of center


[02-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Electron#4561

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[02-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Electron#4561
🤔


[02-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[02-Dec-18 11:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder donoteat01 has good shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mS1SgI73k

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Cities Skylines | Franklin Episode 7: Liberalism
Not much urbanism in this episode, but a lot of political economy which will illuminate some of the decisions and policies which will come later in the serie...
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[02-Dec-18 12:54 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Dec-18 01:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Dec-18 01:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Built and in builing highrails on the globe... The longest one is China.


[02-Dec-18 01:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that Soviet-Afghan war was the most aesthetic war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B32y2TgCOx4

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Hezbolloli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B32y2TgCOx4
Afghan, Afghanistan (Swallowing Dust/Пыль глотаю)
December 24th marks the start of the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan with the deployment of the 40th Army. The original video was by mc dima/vityaz and re...
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[02-Dec-18 01:18 PM] ononim#8141
@Stoopedhooy >minarchism, lib democracy and Marxism-Leninism are all top ideloagies with the same score


[02-Dec-18 01:20 PM] ononim#8141

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[02-Dec-18 01:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wth is Marxism-Leninism?


[02-Dec-18 01:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I mean, I know what it is because it's on our politics textbook. But why the hay are _you_ talking about this?


[02-Dec-18 02:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim

To be honest, I don't know what all of that means lol


[02-Dec-18 02:27 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I do not know what many of the different ideological spectrums fight for lel


[02-Dec-18 02:27 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I still use the old two-sided system of conservative vs liberal


[02-Dec-18 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/ZREniYO

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The president on these United States is too stupid to realize he's supposed to stay on the stage
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[02-Dec-18 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/video/trump-leaves-argentinas-macri-standing-g20-1815574/

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Trump leaves Argentina's Macri standing at G20
Argentina's President Macri appears to call after U.S. President Trump amid misunderstanding during photograph opportunity.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/02/12/6905980-0-image-a-2_1543752032857.jpg


[02-Dec-18 02:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lol

Was it a fail ot he did it on purpose?


[02-Dec-18 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good question


[02-Dec-18 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there'sa mutterign off stage form trump to staff going "get me out of here"


[02-Dec-18 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it was possibly on purpose


[02-Dec-18 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder how Jair Bolsonaro and Donald Trump will interact with eachother


[02-Dec-18 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro is basically Trump's obsessed personal fangirl


[02-Dec-18 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's gonna be funny when Trump dismisses Bolsonaro or leaves him hanging like Macri in the next international meeting


[02-Dec-18 04:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'd imagine Trump would love to see someone mimicking him like that


[02-Dec-18 05:11 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Dec-18 05:11 PM] ononim#8141
WTF I love Ben Garrison now


[02-Dec-18 05:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Rest in peace mister no new taxes


[02-Dec-18 05:44 PM] moonatik#3676
question: who is the worst political youtuber?


[02-Dec-18 05:44 PM] moonatik#3676
I nominate carl benjamin


[02-Dec-18 05:58 PM] Mikey#7286
All of them


[02-Dec-18 05:58 PM] Mikey#7286
:^]


[02-Dec-18 05:59 PM] Mikey#7286
J/k tho I don't really watch any


[02-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Arvid#8335
Taxation on the poor is theft, taxation on the rich is not


[02-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
If I had to choose a favorite one though


[02-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
It would be Johnathan Pie


[02-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/ti2bVS40cz0

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Jonathan Pie
https://youtu.be/ti2bVS40cz0
It's a JOKE!
Comedian found guilty of causing offence! For tickets to see Jonathan Pie: Back to the Studio go to: www.jonathanpie.com/live/ To use this video in a commerc...
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[02-Dec-18 06:01 PM] Arvid#8335
@moonatik I second Carl Benjamen/Sargon Of Akkad, I fucking hate that guy.


[02-Dec-18 06:02 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/oFxZ-rPPYd8

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Jonathan Pie
https://youtu.be/oFxZ-rPPYd8
Cameron's Brexit
Pie takes a look at how Brexit is getting on.
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[02-Dec-18 06:03 PM] Arvid#8335
Sargon Of Akkad absolutely sucks at fact checking, which leads to both him *and* his thousands of followers having dumb ideas.


[02-Dec-18 06:04 PM] Mikey#7286
I have no opinion on Sargon but I do agree with some of his opinions


[02-Dec-18 06:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Like net neutrality, article 13, etc, and that Anita Sarkeesian is a terrible person and is a stain on true feminism


[02-Dec-18 06:07 PM] Mikey#7286
Ok maybe she's not a terrible person but she's horribly misguided and an idiot


[02-Dec-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
I think she held back feminism quite a bit


[02-Dec-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
And I'm strongly for feminism, but not that kind


[02-Dec-18 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
THe scum made me cringe every time I hear about very interesting historical figure from the coolest part of history


[02-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Arvid#8335
He occasionally gets it right yes, but for the most part he doesn't know how to fact ceck properly which leads to him saying a lot of dumb and factually incorrect stuff. For example there was one incident where he misinterpreted this one part of Project Ireland 2040 where they said they wanted to increase the Irish population by about a million, he misintepreted it as "They're going to import millions of migrants into Ireland!!"


[02-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Arvid#8335
That's just one example


[02-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Mikey#7286
@ononim huh?


[02-Dec-18 06:11 PM] Mikey#7286
@Arvid personally I could care less about him


[02-Dec-18 06:12 PM] ononim#8141
The Sargon


[02-Dec-18 06:12 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I hate all those gaming channels like TheQuartering and Raz0rfist that think they're experts in politics because they dedicate their entire channels to whining about SJWs like they shat on their breakfast while licking Donald Trumps ballsack


[02-Dec-18 06:12 PM] ononim#8141
of Akkad


[02-Dec-18 06:12 PM] ononim#8141
ANCIENT NEAR EAST GANG


[02-Dec-18 06:12 PM] Arvid#8335
Luckily though I think Sargon's channel is starting to die off a bit due to people possibly realizing that putting Trump in office was a bad idea.


[02-Dec-18 06:14 PM] Arvid#8335
He's not completely gone yet but in a few years when Trump's approval rating is down the shitter he'll loose a lot of relavancy. And then he might resort to trying to start a few controversies to try and become relavent again.


[02-Dec-18 06:15 PM] Arvid#8335
@Kiryu-Chan I agree


[02-Dec-18 06:15 PM] Arvid#8335
Fuck TheQuartering and Razorfist as well


[02-Dec-18 06:16 PM] Arvid#8335
Why does Razorfist have to like metal? Why can't he like shitty music like Nickelback so I can hate him more? = (


[02-Dec-18 06:16 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Raz0rfist particularly hurts because he actually used to be one of my favorite channels


[02-Dec-18 06:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Razorfist is a cock for more than just politics


[02-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
All the stuff of about Metal


[02-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Mikey#7286
He's a contrarian for PlayStation games too


[02-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I could get passed his shitty gaming opinions because he had some good insight on the industry


[02-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
His video on the Middle Market in particular is one of my favorite gaming vids


[02-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Mikey#7286
"Horizon zero Dawn was one of the worst games of 2017" fuck off


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Yeah


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Arvid#8335
Razorfist also has a lot of bad opinions on metal music as well.


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
His opinions on games got more and more shitty


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
To the point where it's obvious he's just being a contrarian


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Arvid#8335
He thinks Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son is an awful album lmao


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
oof


[02-Dec-18 06:18 PM] Mikey#7286
@Kiryu-Chan did he like BotW?


[02-Dec-18 06:19 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I'm not sure, I don't even think he's ever gotten the game


[02-Dec-18 06:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Huh


[02-Dec-18 06:19 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
He usually likes Zelda though, and he defends Nintendo a lot even on their most unusual choices


[02-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Nintendo and Rockstar are the only major publishers he rarely shits on


[02-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Arvid#8335
I watched his video on Iron Maiden and he has some good insight on the band, but a lot of his opinions on the music itself are trash.


[02-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
And Id I believe, he loved the new Doom


[02-Dec-18 06:21 PM] Arvid#8335
To be fair my gaming opinions are probably worse than Razorfist's


[02-Dec-18 06:22 PM] Arvid#8335
I am super biased towards Western RPGs.


[02-Dec-18 06:26 PM] Arvid#8335
But of course, the worst part of Razorfist is definately his politics.


[02-Dec-18 06:26 PM] Arvid#8335
He has no idea what he's talking about


[02-Dec-18 06:32 PM] DevField#5162
Why do people talk about stuff they nothing about? It never ceases to amaze  me how many people do that.


[02-Dec-18 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Dunning Kruger effect


[02-Dec-18 06:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@DevField

I prefer to do opposite.
It makes finding right people  really hard since there are not much things I am genuinely interested in.
So the cause might be the desire of company.


[02-Dec-18 06:54 PM] DevField#5162
That's understandable. I feel similarly, to be honest. I stay out of things I don't really know much about (such as politics) but I do invest some time in expanding my knowledge in different areas.


[02-Dec-18 06:58 PM] moonatik#3676
@Arvid please don't call him by his alias


[02-Dec-18 06:58 PM] moonatik#3676
that's disrespectful to the real sargon of akkad


[02-Dec-18 07:00 PM] moonatik#3676
I hate how the man who built the first empire in history now his their name and image primarily associated with a moron who made bank from parroting near fascists and making fun of feminists


[02-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Arvid#8335
The original Sargon Of Akkad is rolling in his grave. = (


[02-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Arvid#8335
Okay, I'll call him Shillgon Of Cukkad for now on.


[02-Dec-18 07:10 PM] Arvid#8335
Because he's a shill and a cuck for Trump


[02-Dec-18 07:14 PM] moonatik#3676
lol


[02-Dec-18 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i used tow atcht hat guy but i kinda stopped durign a point where i was trying to ignore politics to keep my sanity


[02-Dec-18 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never really went back to the political side of youtube after that


[02-Dec-18 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gamergate-era right-wing political YTers are on the decline, everyone's slid down the pipeline to one side in specific.


[02-Dec-18 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Me from 2 years ago would have been horrified if he knew that Me today was gonna become an anarchist


[02-Dec-18 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who thinks ANTIFA gets way too much blame


[02-Dec-18 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me from 3 years ago was a democrat, me today doesnt knwo what me is


[02-Dec-18 07:18 PM] Arvid#8335
Antifa has made mistakes before, but the right exaggerates greatly how dangerous they are.


[02-Dec-18 07:18 PM] Arvid#8335
Antifa has done good things as well, but no one likes to talk about that.


[02-Dec-18 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard much abotu antifa


[02-Dec-18 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i knwo si tghey didnt threatne that one guy who said they did


[02-Dec-18 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye just kind of protested peacefully otuside his hosue while ringing his doorbell to get his attention


[02-Dec-18 07:20 PM] Arvid#8335
No one likes to talk about how they've protected counter protesters from being attacked by actual neo-Nazis, or how they've helped out neighborhoods that got evicted, no no it's all about how they censor oppressed Trump fans with violence.


[02-Dec-18 07:21 PM] Arvid#8335
Can you think of one conflict that got resolved peacefully? I can't 😲


[02-Dec-18 07:22 PM] Arvid#8335
:twismug: :twismug: :twismug: :twismug:


[02-Dec-18 07:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The harder part is defining "peaceful resolution"


[02-Dec-18 07:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
South African apartheid was by no means resolved peacefully, for example


[02-Dec-18 07:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with the Civil Rights movement, people died back then


[02-Dec-18 07:22 PM] Arvid#8335
I won't be involved with antifa anytime soon though, I'm too much of a loser to get off my armchair


[02-Dec-18 07:23 PM] Arvid#8335
:twismug:


[02-Dec-18 07:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying you can't be both an antifascist and a level 99 armchair wizard


[02-Dec-18 07:24 PM] Arvid#8335
I'm a tr00 leftcom


[02-Dec-18 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think i'm a Level 96 Social Justice Warrior. :twismug:


[02-Dec-18 07:25 PM] Arvid#8335
I'm a level 100 Super Juiced Wrestler.


[02-Dec-18 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm a level 200 tea drinking closet nest wizard


[02-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When you realize they stopped using SJW as an insult because that makes then main characters so they went to NPC


[02-Dec-18 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamer-Americans are the worst


[02-Dec-18 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
I'm a level ∞ radical centrist


[02-Dec-18 07:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/_CLattka_/status/1062470760671969280

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*talking to a Tory*

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[02-Dec-18 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
(radical centrism behaves like a black hole)


[02-Dec-18 07:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
.p antifa


[02-Dec-18 07:40 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[02-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
german flying saucer


[02-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Giant Ranger hat


[02-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, once you pass the event horizon of radical centrism, you can never escape


[02-Dec-18 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i listen to "fuckign tory cunt" on loop and it feels liek there's a beat that's about to start


[02-Dec-18 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it never comes


[02-Dec-18 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLBbhxMgI0

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schmoyoho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLBbhxMgI0
Millennials Are Killing Everything // Garbage Songs #02
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[02-Dec-18 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Those blasted millennials are the cause of everything! REEEEEEEE


[02-Dec-18 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Absolutely no other generation has contributed to any problems!!!!!111


[02-Dec-18 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were killing Applebee's for a while


[02-Dec-18 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Until Applebee's realized people only go there for cheap bad food and booze


[02-Dec-18 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So fuck it, cheeseburger eggrolls and watery $1 cocktails


[02-Dec-18 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chains just have to devolve into absurd specials and Twitter memes to get millennials


[02-Dec-18 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just...don't do what Steak Ums did


[02-Dec-18 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what did steak ums do?


[02-Dec-18 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Full rant basically telling every millennial what they want to hear


[02-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Boy gee we have it hard no one gets us we're all depressed and just barely hanging on"


[02-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"buy our cheap fake steak"


[02-Dec-18 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[02-Dec-18 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basicallyt hey tried to play the victim millenial style but it backfired?


[02-Dec-18 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least niihilist arby's was kidna funny


[02-Dec-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically tell people what they want to hear but tried way too hard


[02-Dec-18 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nihilist arby's did that better


[02-Dec-18 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
papercraft arby's is better though


[02-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people get upset by this corporate attempt to sell products based on the anxiety of a generation but hey


[02-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Welcome to fucking 1950


[02-Dec-18 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[02-Dec-18 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Go turn on American Bandstand and remember to buy your Elvis records! Be a rebel!


[02-Dec-18 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not really iontot he corporate twitter thing but it's not the worst thing ever


[02-Dec-18 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
denny's got fucking weird


[02-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672685019/trump-leaves-g-20-with-china-trade-truce-plans-to-cancel-nafta-ahead-of-new-pact

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Trump Leaves G-20 With China Trade Truce, Plans To Cancel NAFTA Ah...
The deal pauses a tariff increase that had been planned to take effect New Year's Day. President Trump called the meeting with China's president "amazing and productive."
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[02-Dec-18 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
Trump called Saturday night's two-and-a-half dinner meeting — an hour longer than scheduled — "amazing and productive." China also agreed to label the opioid fentanyl a controlled substance, which the White House called "a wonderful humanitarian gesture."


[02-Dec-18 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
On Air Force One returning from Buenos Aires, the president also told reporters he would move to cancel NAFTA, the trade agreement with Mexico and Canada. Trump and the leaders of those countries signed an updated trade deal, the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA, at the G-20.

USMCA requires congressional approval to take effect, and getting it through Congress could be a challenge. Trump framed canceling NAFTA as a way to force legislators' hands. "Congress will have a choice of the USMCA or pre-NAFTA," he said.


[02-Dec-18 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder on the legality of signing trade agreements before passing them in congress


[02-Dec-18 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
it's like "oh yeah we'll totally do this trade agreement thing *ohpleaseohpleasepasscongress*"


[02-Dec-18 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck with that


[02-Dec-18 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does the usmca say about tariffs?


[02-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
nothing


[02-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-wildfires-carbon-emissions-equal-year-power-pollution-n942756

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The analysis "shows just how bad catastrophic fires are for the environment and for the public's health," U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said.
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[02-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
IMO


[02-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress' best shot here is to make NAFTA 2.0: Even freer trade


[02-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
A complete removal of tariffs would be a huge F you to Trump


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stopping him from messing with it would create stability that the voters would enjoy


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
even Republican ones


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amero when


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
After how much he's pissed off even conservative senators, I doubt they want to play ball on illogical tariffing


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
in regards to Sargon of Akkad


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
he once had a video about how Blizzard was going after the alt-right


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Comey is going to testify btw


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
because Blizzard banned an alt-right person for toxicity after said person refused to switch to other characters when his main was already taken


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so do you guys think Trump will really stop tariffs or is this simply a smokescreen?


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President Vaporware doing anything?


[02-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah.


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sargon just reiterates whatever complete stupidity he reads


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
digging into the sources on that one was nuts


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
eh, not big on political Youtubers


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
they completely made shit up after the initial source


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
for one reason: they're talking publicly about something that's supposed to be private


[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/3/17930092/usmca-nafta-trump-trade-deal-explained

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USMCA, Trump’s new NAFTA deal, explained in 500 words
The US, Canada, and Mexico signed the trade pact on Friday. Here’s a very simple guide.
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[02-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamer-Americans are all based around feelings.


[02-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things went, in two steps, from "Dude you hav to be willing to play another character" to "BLIZZARD IS DEPLATFORMING THE ALT RIGHT FOR THEIR VIEWS"


[02-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Deplatforming doesn't exist.


[02-Dec-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Intellectual property and digital trade: The deal extends the terms of copyright to 70 years beyond the life of the author (up from 50). It also extends the period that a pharmaceutical drug can be protected from generic competition, and includes new provisions to deal with the digital economy, including prohibiting duties on things like music and e-books, and protections for internet companies so they’re not liable for content their users produce.


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
you wouldn't believe the amount of alt-right trolls in world of warcraft


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I go into a store and take a shit on the floor and get banned and I shit on the floor of every store and keep getting banned


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
trade chat is a veritable wall of alt-right and conservative talking points


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't a conspiracy or an unlawful trust


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every place just happens to ban shitting on the floor


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Intellectual property and digital trade: The deal extends the terms of copyright to 70 years beyond the life of the author (up from 50). It also extends the period that a pharmaceutical drug can be protected from generic competition, and includes new provisions to deal with the digital economy, including prohibiting duties on things like music and e-books, and protections for internet companies so they’re not liable for content their users produce. '


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
uuuugh


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a shit ass policy


[02-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Other than the very last bit


[02-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be use it or lose it


[02-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, drug protection from generics needs to die


[02-Dec-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"extends the amount fo time drugs cost younyour family, your pets, your house, and your car, all to live a little longer"


[02-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think congress needs to snipe that bit


[02-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about the only part they probably will want to


[02-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
well, that and tariff protection


[02-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
snipe the tariffs, cut patent term length to 10 years and snipe USMCA's long drug patent protection too


[02-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big pharma would lobby hard of course, but I think enuff senators could be rounded up to actually do it.


[02-Dec-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also for fucks sake cut that public domain length... the only oen whose really benefiting formt hat is disney


[02-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a lot harder to trim


[02-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Disney has lots of lobbyists


[02-Dec-18 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney is too powerful


[02-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Recently I learned that Disney wanted to open a theme park in Virginia near Bull Run battlefield


[02-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And everyone was all up in arms about history being cheapened and Disney ruining the land value


[02-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess what's there now instead of a profitable amusement park


[02-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Generic suburbs


[02-Dec-18 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So gg 90s VA.


[02-Dec-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking generic suburbs providing housing for people


[02-Dec-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we coudl ahve had a theme park


[02-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea was not to cheapen a battlefield with sprawl


[02-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But they did it anyway


[02-Dec-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[02-Dec-18 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also america is littered with fuck tosn of abandoned dead malls


[02-Dec-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude the Eisner era of Disney is some interesting shit


[02-Dec-18 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well abandoned is a loose term considerign gangs and homeless people sue them for shelters


[02-Dec-18 10:05 PM] Arvid#8335
The alt-right is the pinnacle of an unwarranted persecution complex.


[02-Dec-18 10:06 PM] Arvid#8335
And it's not even that people aren't going after them per say, but have they ever thought about why people go after them?


[02-Dec-18 10:07 PM] Arvid#8335
"Man, I'm so oppressed and persecuted for my views, all I wanted to do was kill all niggers and jews!"


[02-Dec-18 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why can't i just murder people with a chainsaw without gettign hate for it!


[02-Dec-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Racist Zecora unintentionally @Arvid


[02-Dec-18 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I read it in her voice


[02-Dec-18 10:10 PM] Arvid#8335
You can't cry about being oppressed for your views when your views advocate oppressing others.


[02-Dec-18 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I shoudl be able to lynch minorities without gettign oppressed by the blakc devil!!!


[02-Dec-18 10:11 PM] Arvid#8335
@Itsthinking Now I imagine Zecora saying that line


[02-Dec-18 10:11 PM] Arvid#8335
thanks


[02-Dec-18 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Np


[02-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
Gamers are the most persecuted minority


[02-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[02-Dec-18 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Dec-18 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
.p salt lick, cute


[02-Dec-18 10:51 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, No results for your query.


[02-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
.p salt, cute


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[02-Dec-18 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rise up


[02-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
GaymerGayte


[02-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-hawking-favored-over-margaret-thatcher-alan-turing-for-spot-on-uk-money/ guess I'll link here too since it's somewhat politics related

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Stephen Hawking favored over Margaret Thatcher, Alan Turing for sp...
Alexander Graham Bell and chemist Rosalind Franklin are also among the scientists nominated to appear on Britain's 50 pound note.
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[02-Dec-18 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Margaret Thatcher on currency would be a travesty


[02-Dec-18 11:34 PM] Mikey#7286
yes


[02-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She was a food scientist I think


[02-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No wait, it was helping to develop a new kind of soft serve.


[02-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's worth more than being the most famous astrophysicist ever


[02-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
no she was UK Prime Minister from 1975 tom 1990


[02-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Before that she was a food scientist


[02-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
oh


[02-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
well that's as lame as being PM


[02-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone has to invent spray cheese


[02-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Mikey#7286
you're being sarcastic aren't you


[02-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not really, it's a perfectly respectable angle to take your profession


[02-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Food science is no joke.


[02-Dec-18 11:53 PM] Mikey#7286
=I


[02-Dec-18 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Creating soft serve was a better use of her skills than being PM.


[02-Dec-18 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also an allegory for it because she found a way to whip more air into it and make more product cheaply without giving people good stuff


[02-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Mikey#7286
if you're being sarcastic you're really good at hiding it, i really hope you aren't saying creating ice cream is more noteworthy than progressing physics by a lot and creating many noteworthy scientific findings


[03-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't. But they're both valuable in their own ways.


[03-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not everyone gets to be an astronaut.


[03-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
i think progressing humanity is more valuable than creating soft server tbh


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Civil engineering over rocket engineering any day.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Someone's gotta design the pipes to take your poop away.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
And every day city council planners aren't going to know how.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look, we need astrophysicist theory stuff, and we also need soft serve.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You gotta do what you gotta do.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Especially if city planning sims are anything to speak of, not even computer engineers (see: video game designers) know how that shit works.


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] ononim#8141
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[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
Hawking wasn't a rocket scientist


[03-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turing or Hawking deserve it more I agree though.


[03-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
he was a Theoretical Physicist


[03-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
soft serve is pretty good tho I'll admit


[03-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We really do need a new person on the $20 bill


[03-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jackson would abhor being on it.


[03-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Mikey#7286
we should put Carl Sagan on a bill


[03-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really should be Tubman.


[03-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[03-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no hard feelings, Jackson hated the Bank and wouldn't want to be on bills.


[03-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He had a hateboner for the guy in charge of the Bank of the US


[03-Dec-18 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://derpibooru.org/1370117?q=my%3Afaves%2Cmaga

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[03-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
We should put John Brown on a bill


[03-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
William Tecumseh Sherman on the $100


[03-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one uses the 100 so we wouldn't see his blessed face


[03-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Put him on the 1


[03-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
'cus he #1 bae


[03-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put him and some flames behind Abe Lincoln


[03-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about sending a message.


[03-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
$20 is still respected


[03-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the penny


[03-Dec-18 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just make all of america's money pennies


[03-Dec-18 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shoudl be our only currency


[03-Dec-18 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buying a nintendo switch? that will be a tanker full of pennies


[03-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Need to take out a mortgage? Just build a new house out of pennies.


[03-Dec-18 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
need a car? weld the pennies together and add some tires


[03-Dec-18 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
need to repair our crumblign roadways? our roads are made of pennies now!


[03-Dec-18 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pay a lawyer in pennies to prove you're in a cent


[03-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
tfw pennies are more expensive to make than their material worth


[03-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
I heard that an argument to keep pennies is because of how it would affect gas prices


[03-Dec-18 12:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Need a floor surface? Pennies. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0f/64/d4/0f64d46cfc2c97e5c1509d10900f7b5e--penny-wall-a-penny.jpg

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[03-Dec-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
need wolves to chase congress? pennies


[03-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/02/us/southwest-key-migrant-children.html

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He’s Built an Empire, With Detained Migrant Children as the Bricks
The founder of Southwest Key made millions from housing migrant children. His nonprofit has stockpiled taxpayer dollars and possibly engaged in self-dealing with top executives.
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[03-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, using financial trikks in the business of providing warehouses to store children the administration plans to deport to bypass federal salary limits to get rich


[03-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, he likes to not bother to deal with things when it turns out his employees are beating up or molesting the children.


[03-Dec-18 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh goood


[03-Dec-18 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he makes suspiciously timed donations to the party in control of the state to make sure the state settles cases...


[03-Dec-18 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he kind of looks liek one of those preists, the super shifty old ones who use the church for dubious purposes


[03-Dec-18 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like in an episode of law and order or a movie


[03-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile some sanity in Mexico https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/macron-tells-pm-to-hold-talks-after-worst-unrest-in-paris-for-decades-idUSKBN1O1072

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Macron tells PM to hold talks after worst unrest in Paris for decades
French President Emmanuel Macron ordered his prime minister on Sunday to hold ta...


[03-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, deploy the National Guard, decriminalize Marijuana, giv some clemency to people who admit wrongdoing and in general, and strict gun control


[03-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, wrong article


[03-Dec-18 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
bad, good, ehh?, bad


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
>mexico


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The URL wasn't changed


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>>mexico


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Macronxico


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] moonatik#3676
force all southern states to build statues of sherman in place of lee


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-politics-violence/mexicos-new-president-takes-aim-at-violence-during-first-day-in-office-idUSKBN1O10QA

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Mexico's new president takes aim at violence during first day in...
On his first full day in office, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador d...


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the one


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
I thought italy was the mexico of europe


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
k gimmie a sec


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] moonatik#3676
also install glowing lights in the eyes on sherman statues


[03-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macron meanwhile is getting rekt


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much a repeat of 1968


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spain isnt the mexico of europe?


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
probably good can't get worse in that regard. good, good, still pretty bad


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland is the Mexico of Europe


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow I thought it was ROmania


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] moonatik#3676
what if north africa was the mexico of europe


[03-Dec-18 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought russia was the mexico of earth


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
I mostly just said that because mexico and italy are similarly shaped


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
and scandinavia was the canada of europe


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @Nebbie Poland is the Mexico of Europe


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Nebbie: Poland is the Mexico of Europe)


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] ononim#8141
What is Quebec of Scandinvia


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scandinavia seems like a nice place to live


[03-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
idk finland? @ononim


[03-Dec-18 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
actually no


[03-Dec-18 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
I've been to finland and it's really really nice


[03-Dec-18 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
~~I ate a reindeer burger~~


[03-Dec-18 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
so it can't be the french bit, too pleasant


[03-Dec-18 01:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mexico is the Mexico of Mexico.


[03-Dec-18 01:33 AM] moonatik#3676
:ShockedRosen:


[03-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
Pony is the Pony of Pony.


[03-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
Caw is the CAw of CAW.


[03-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
CAW CAW CAW


[03-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
hear me out


[03-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
what if


[03-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
manehattan was the manhattan of equestria


[03-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE A BIT OF A SHOCK


[03-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
but try to remain calm


[03-Dec-18 01:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:Caddy:


[03-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
I'm just a bird


[03-Dec-18 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Who was phone on first base


[03-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/uG8ZhCi.jpg

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[03-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Tecuane#0001
https://twitter.com/TopRopeTravis/status/1068926291896864776

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TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis)
https://twitter.com/TopRopeTravis/status/1068926291896864776
Oh my lord. 

Trump just wandered right off the stage, leaving the Argentinian president all by himself.

A staffer is then observed attempting to stop and retrieve Trump.

Ladies and gentlemen... Donald Trump.

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[03-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Tecuane#0001
lul


[03-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
ugh I can't find the exact quote, but apparently one of trump's aides was overheard saying something along the lines of "oh god not again" when he wandered off stage


[03-Dec-18 02:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490001464572248065/518967029647147008/image0.jpg

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[03-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://pics.me.me/left-right-radical-centrist-alt-centrism-when-14517515.png

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[03-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/comments/96pf88/fish_hook_theory/e43cs0g

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r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM - Fish Hook Theory
731 votes and 125 comments so far on Reddit
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[03-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[03-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that centrism's tendency to oppose chage actually makes it fit very much with the far right, which seeks to prevent certain kinds of change by crushing all outside the chosen traditions and classes


[03-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because centrism will not really see much of a threat from the far right compared to the far left


[03-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, horseshoe theory operates on the idea that the far left tends to become authoritarian and, in the interest of maintaining power, exclusionary, converging with the far right in many ways.


[03-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
I was linking the comment too


[03-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
"The liberal government, however, decided to let the fascists walk into power without any resistance because they were scared of a socialist revolution and thought Mussolini could better prevent it."


[03-Dec-18 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/p9dVDpJ.jpg

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[03-Dec-18 03:27 AM] Mikey#7286
martians are humancist


[03-Dec-18 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mars is for dinosaurs and you know it


[03-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Martians: "Fuck off we're full!"


[03-Dec-18 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HONK


[03-Dec-18 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
NO U >:V


[03-Dec-18 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
FAK UR GHEI ASS FAIC :/\


[03-Dec-18 03:55 AM] ononim#8141
_tenderly taps Reppy's fat ass_


[03-Dec-18 03:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] no


[03-Dec-18 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Breaking news. NASA drone families being taken away from each other by Mars government immigration control. Reports of drones being burned trying to enter the planet.


[03-Dec-18 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane yas


[03-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Tecuane#0001
no


[03-Dec-18 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
```
15:44:16     <RepentantAnon>    u kno doodle sounds kinda like doo doo :D
15:51:35     <@byte[]>    no u do
15:51:41     <RepentantAnon>    no u
15:53:42     <RepentantAnon>    also ur fakking crazy >:V i jst saw how 2 play chords n scales dats fakking insane and ur nuts >:P
16:13:15     <@byte[]>    REALLY
16:13:24     <@byte[]>    You don't say
```


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
it just occurred to me after two years of working with that dude on the team


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
that he evidently has downs


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
or something


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
he's not on the team


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
no one can keep that facade up


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
for that long


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it's probably just autism


[03-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
not at that level


[03-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
advanced autism


[03-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
levels of autism that shouldn't even by possible


[03-Dec-18 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
no this is actually very basic and symptomatic of autism


[03-Dec-18 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
of all forms of it


[03-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Tecuane#0001
🤔


[03-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
im not far enough on the spectrum to know


[03-Dec-18 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
you're more in your own world


[03-Dec-18 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"I prefer to disregard what you're saying because I don't understand anything about you"


[03-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
less understand


[03-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
more just not care


[03-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
i spend 16 hours a day as a consultant you think i want to go home and listen to people i dont respect


[03-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Tecuane#0001
considering the barrier to entry is so low its not surprising that the people who dont meet it bitch so heavily


[03-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats all they do about anything


[03-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Tecuane#0001
SEF every day


[03-Dec-18 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
you work too much tbh


[03-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
i would work more if my body allowed it


[03-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
unfortunately even i have limits somewhere


[03-Dec-18 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
crazy


[03-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
_shrug_


[03-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
i enjoy the work


[03-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
but it does mean i have extremely low tolerance for retards or useless people bitching when im doing stuff im not paid to do


[03-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
if what you do can be replaced by a markov chain and a training set your opinions on what you're doing are officially not worth anything


[03-Dec-18 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
If I was working that much I would pretty much undoubtedly be doing really garbage tier work


[03-Dec-18 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
inb4


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
its in my blood 2bh


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
its not surprising i can go high octane for 16 hours


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
just need to blast nightcore?


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
pretty much


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
when i ran out of nightcore is when my tolerance for bullshit here dropped dramatically


[03-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
:^)


[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I use music as a driving force for my work ethic


[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
without it it vanishes


[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
same really


[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQRIaztIf3E

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Monstercat: Uncaged
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[Glitch Hop or 110BPM] - Lets Be Friends - Manslaughter (VIP Mix) ...
Support on Beatport: http://btprt.dj/16q6ATk Support on Bandcamp: http://bit.ly/19tQTMc Listen on Soundcloud: http://snd.sc/13AbkaR ▼ Follow Monstercat Snapc...
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[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
i bought some new headphones


[03-Dec-18 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
here's one I really liked while I was doing a CTF


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
how did u score


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I lost by a small nominal amount of points


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I was a team of one against teams of six


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
the only team of one


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
shouldve brought me


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
(^:


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
you had to be there


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
one man apocalypse


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
oh


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't like being in the US


[03-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea


[03-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
>talk in a discord channel


[03-Dec-18 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
in either case I could have pulled it off if they didn't literally take away our computers during lunch


[03-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
>staff status all goes green


[03-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
what did they mean by this


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] i forgot to get u a christmas gift


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
shiet


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
link amazon wishlist


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't get you anything in return


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
whatever will i do


[03-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats fine


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't have any funding, my mom is getting laid off tomorrow and my money needs to go to the family for now


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea idc np


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
unemployment in america is gay


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
i mean i care since thats pretty trash situation


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
but idc about getting anything


[03-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
im about to move houses anyway so i am taking as little as possible


[03-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I... don't really know what I want


[03-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
obviously dildos


[03-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not necessary


[03-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I stole the ones from the girl living next door


[03-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
but you want them tho


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
you can never have enough dildos


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
_shrug_


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
find something


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
ill ship it @ you


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
i still have ur addr prob


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
otherwise i can get it from that autisto dude who published ur dox on his tumblr


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
that singapore one


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
gtx 2080 ti clocked up to something that'll break it in half a year


[03-Dec-18 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
he didn't publish my address


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
🤔


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
i have it somewhere


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
dashlane i think


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/419273-g-20-leaders-agree-on-trade-disagree-on-climate

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G-20 leaders agree on trade, Trump bucks others on climate
Leaders of the Group of 20 (G-20) nations on Saturday signed off on a final statement pledging to fix the world trading system, with all but President Trump also expressing support for the Paris climate agreement.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/g20_0.jpg


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm trying to think of something that wouldn't be too pricey and that I could make good use of


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
lul


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@Tecuane are you literally only using dashlane because it has "Dash" in it?


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
no


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
jk obv


[03-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
im not actually using dashlane because its linux client gobbles mandrill scrotums


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
i used to use it when i only had apple machines - desktop used to be an imac


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
but then i wanted to play overwatch so i bought a regular desktop and dual boot with deb


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
imac is aids


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
imacs are beautiful


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
60hz screens are too 2012


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
your laptop is 60hz


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
today is the age of 120hz


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
My ipad is 120hz


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
tfw 144hz


[03-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
my laptop is 60hz yes


[03-Dec-18 04:19 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
But it was manufactured in mid 2012


[03-Dec-18 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
something that regularly annoys me is how little storage space I have on my laptop


[03-Dec-18 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
and how slow it is


[03-Dec-18 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a 256gb m.2 sata ssd


[03-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
not enough space for your porn huh


[03-Dec-18 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
then again that will be the second hard drive that @Tecuane buys for me so maybe not


[03-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Tecuane#0001
lul


[03-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Tecuane#0001
i remember express shipping the first one because some useless mod was screeching about some dev shit


[03-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Tecuane#0001
as usual


[03-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@byte[] just ask for 2x rtx2080ti and mine bitcoin


[03-Dec-18 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[03-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
jk


[03-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's so last year


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
ask for 2x rtx2080ti so that you can run the latest battlefield at 60fps


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
but can it run crysis


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
the age old question


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
My i7-6700k + GTX980 rig struggled with keeping crysis at 120fps with all ultra


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I was thinking about a gfx card but then I saw that the prices started jumping again so decided to pass on that


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
ram got more expensive too


[03-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
does sli even help with rtx performance?


[03-Dec-18 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[03-Dec-18 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
sli increases inter-card memory bandwidth because the cards don't have to sync at the northbridge


[03-Dec-18 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the purpose


[03-Dec-18 04:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
if you find something


[03-Dec-18 04:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
lmk


[03-Dec-18 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
also I like how the politics channel got raided for tech talk


[03-Dec-18 04:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont have any other channels


[03-Dec-18 04:27 AM] Tecuane#0001
i cant talk in them


[03-Dec-18 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
btw I can't pm you


[03-Dec-18 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
did you unfriend me


[03-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Tecuane#0001
probably


[03-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Tecuane#0001
you were pretty gay when i left


[03-Dec-18 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I still am


[03-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
why did you tell me that after i accepted


[03-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
instead of before


[03-Dec-18 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[03-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
🤔


[03-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqxrJHkzS0I

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Yusha Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqxrJHkzS0I
How recruiters are in each branch of the military once they get yo...
Link to t-shirt in video: https://www.yushathomas.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/light-heather-grey-but-sarge-t-shirt-big-letters
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[03-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], gay like the navy?


[03-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
hes prob gone to bed


[03-Dec-18 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
no gay like ur mom


[03-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
I got her to take the political sextant quiz thing


[03-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
she's an anarcho-capitalist


[03-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=-2&3=-2&4=-2&5=-2&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=-1&16=-1&17=2&18=2&19=-2&20=-2&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=2&25=-2&26=-2&27=2&28=2&29=-1&30=2&31=-1&32=-1&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-2&37=2&38=-2&39=2


[03-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB9gRRrakw0

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The Iconoclast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB9gRRrakw0
Islamophobia IS Racism Says UK Government | Hate Crime Law Expansi...
The Full Report (If you can be bothered) https://static1.squarespace.com/static/599c3d2febbd1a90cffdd8a9/t/5bfd1ea3352f531a6170ceee/1543315109493/Islamophobi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dB9gRRrakw0/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
technically discrimination


[03-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, discrimination is bad


[03-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
discrimination is indeed bad. but over protection and draconian laws are also bad too. We live in a time where we have to be careful how far reaching we want our laws to go.

anyway just thought i'd share the video.


[03-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the video description also has a link to the full report for reading.


[03-Dec-18 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
islamophobia exists definitionally, it's fear of islam


[03-Dec-18 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I have a pretty burning hatred for islam


[03-Dec-18 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
but also every religion


[03-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
I just think religion is a funny way of expressing oneself


[03-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's strange how pervasive it was for most of human history


[03-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if humans actually evolved to be spiritual, or if it's just the result of living in a religious culture


[03-Dec-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
there's tons of evidence of superstition in other animals


[03-Dec-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
like in crows


[03-Dec-18 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
so it was just a progressive reinforcement of that


[03-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03336906

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Crows learn not to respond under response-independent reinforcement
Seven fish crows were trained to respond under either fixed- or variable-interval schedules. Subsequently, the response dependency was systematically eliminated and then reinstated. The distribution...
https://static-content.springer.com/cover/journal/40631/13/6.jpg


[03-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
>However, compared to pigeons, fish crows showed substantially less responding under response-independent procedures.


[03-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
crows are actually much less superstitious than dumber birds (like pigeons)


[03-Dec-18 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
conclusion: crows are smarter than humans


[03-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[03-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/j5MX2ZR.jpg

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[03-Dec-18 01:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[03-Dec-18 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Well yeah, food isn't a constitutional right like gun ownership https://i.redd.it/hlfud0dykw121.png

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[03-Dec-18 05:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[03-Dec-18 05:28 PM] Yuri#4154
Isn't food literally a human right?


[03-Dec-18 05:32 PM] Mikey#7286
According to this guy nope


[03-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Healthcare and food. Nah man poor people don't need those


[03-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Guns? Oh fuck they're trying to take away my toys


[03-Dec-18 06:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Next he'll say water and air aren't human rights


[03-Dec-18 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
You're like a little baby


[03-Dec-18 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
Watch as the villain from Lorax movie becomes next top billionere


[03-Dec-18 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
(he sold air, for those who are blessed with ignorance about Lorax movie)


[03-Dec-18 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
oh you included air


[03-Dec-18 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
my bad


[03-Dec-18 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[03-Dec-18 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
Furry Road was a documentary


[03-Dec-18 06:24 PM] Yuri#4154
Furry Road?


[03-Dec-18 06:29 PM] Yuri#4154
Is that a furry porn remake of Fury Road?

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[03-Dec-18 07:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk

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[03-Dec-18 07:52 PM] DevField#5162
True


[03-Dec-18 07:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Did you mean to post that at Niles?


[03-Dec-18 07:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk 

Oof, sorry
@Nile


[03-Dec-18 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
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[03-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
COMMUNE


[03-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
everyone sleeps in one really big building


[03-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
with no walls or barriers


[03-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Nile#1441
Thank you for this meme @Stoopedhooy


[03-Dec-18 08:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/X_i-5ij6kyo

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Singapore After Dark: The Man Who Eats For Free
Meet Daniel - a "freegan" who doesn’t spend a dime on food in Singapore. He spends his nights in back alleys searching for leftover food only to be richly re...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X_i-5ij6kyo/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Dec-18 08:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trickel down food economics.


[03-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Arvid#8335
Oxygen is going to be privatized


[03-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Arvid#8335
Corporations will soon try to profit via oxygen


[03-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
oxygen is already sold in tanks though


[03-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
for fuel


[03-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
like cutting


[03-Dec-18 09:12 PM] Mikey#7286
Next walking will be taxed


[03-Dec-18 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
walking generates energy


[03-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Yuri#4154

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[03-Dec-18 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[03-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_heating

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District heating
District heating (also known as heat networks or teleheating) is a system for distributing heat generated in a centralized location through a system of insulated pipes for residential and commercial heating requirements such as space heating and water heating. The heat is oft...
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[03-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
is this communism?


[03-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/371/836/5e1.png

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[03-Dec-18 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
according to americans, anything that you get for cheaper because everyone is providing a little bit of money to pay for it is communism


[03-Dec-18 09:38 PM] hmsquilava#3978
So cable is communism


[03-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[03-Dec-18 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
@hmsquilava no because everyone pays a shitload of money for a little bit of product


[03-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's like $150 a month for 85 mbit down/6 mbit up internet in my area, but about $50 a month for 300 megabit down/up in the netherlands


[03-Dec-18 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
>people hav a right to self-defense, even with automatic weapons


[03-Dec-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
>the "necessity defense" says any action you do is not illegal if you do it to prevent imminent harm to yourself or others, and had no choice to take alternative measures


[03-Dec-18 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
>you attempt to rob food from the bourgeoisie to liv and/or raise standard of living from utter shite, get penalized for it


[03-Dec-18 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of these things is not like the other things...


[03-Dec-18 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-autos/u-s-to-end-subsidies-for-electric-cars-renewables-white-house-idUSKBN1O22D4

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U.S. to end subsidies for electric cars, renewables: White House
White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said on Monday the United States will ...


[03-Dec-18 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said on Monday the United States will end subsidies for electric cars and other items including renewable energy sources.


[03-Dec-18 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
also it sounds like they might be implying that subsidies on electric cars is what's killing GM jobs in the US


[03-Dec-18 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
which is retarded


[03-Dec-18 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
ffs


[03-Dec-18 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our government is run by economic retards


[03-Dec-18 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want to play it safe and keep it thesame as it's always been but that's exactly what's killing our economy


[03-Dec-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Supply-side economics mixed with austerity doesn't work.


[03-Dec-18 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this corporate empire is goign to collAPSE IN on itself because it can't grow and change with the market. the real question is whether it will take us all with it or if we can cut off the tumor before it does


[04-Dec-18 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/03/subpoenas-trump-hotel-emoluments-1041324

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Judge greenlights subpoenas in Trump Hotel lawsuit
It’s the first time a lawsuit alleging a president violated the Constitution's emoluments, or anti-corruption, clauses has advanced to the discovery stage.
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[04-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
suh pee nuh


[04-Dec-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sub poh nah


[04-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
sub pony


[04-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
.p submarine, ponified


[04-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[04-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[04-Dec-18 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh it;s metal slug ponified


[04-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
.p submarine, ponified


[04-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[04-Dec-18 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[04-Dec-18 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.derpibooru.org/1897541

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[04-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
what's that

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[04-Dec-18 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
uwu


[04-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/12/02/man-planned-to-assassinate-trump-with-a-forklift/

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Man planned to assassinate Trump with a forklift: authorities
A North Dakota man accused of plotting to use a forklift to flip over President Trump’s limo to “kill the president” pleaded guilty on Friday. Gregory Lee Leingang, 42, was charge…
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[04-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/03/inside-one-mans-failed-plan-use-stolen-forklift-assassinate-trump/


[04-Dec-18 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
A fucking hero of the glorious proletariat.


[04-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
seize the means of production


[04-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
then use the means of production to destroy the government


[04-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/03/trump-stormy-daniels-1041325

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Lawyers for Trump seek to punish Stormy Daniels
They are asking lawyers’ fees and penalties following a failed defamation suit.
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[04-Dec-18 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Taking "the capitalists shall sell us the ropes by which we hang them" from VI Lenin seriously.


[04-Dec-18 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I wish


[04-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Nile#1441
What an idiot with a forklift


[04-Dec-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well at least he was creative


[04-Dec-18 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Make America Lift Again.


[04-Dec-18 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finally a fork we can all lift with


[04-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/wisconsin-lawmakers-republicans-power.html

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By MITCH SMITH and MONICA DAVEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/wisconsin-lawmakers-republicans-power.html
Stung by Election Losses, Republicans in the States Seek a Way to ...
Democrats in Wisconsin say Republican proposals for slashing the incoming governor’s authority are a blatant power grab after voters ousted the sitting Republican.
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[04-Dec-18 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not lettign me into new york times which is weird


[04-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/wisconsin-republicans-are-trying-to-subvert-the-will-of-the-voters-theyre-part-of-a-larger-trend/2018/12/03/cf20dbd0-f72c-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html


[04-Dec-18 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they are


[04-Dec-18 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans at this point are the russian oligarch of america


[04-Dec-18 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
power and money for power and money's sake even if it kills america in the process


[04-Dec-18 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again if america dies in the process i;m sure they'll jsut attempt to disperse and lodge themselves in other nations if dying doesnt eman gettign nuked


[04-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
America won't die any time soon


[04-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-strategy.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-strategy.html
Why Michael Cohen, Trump’s Fixer, Confessed to It All
Mr. Cohen has told friends that he wanted to speed up the process by confessing his crimes quickly so that he could begin serving any sentence he receives.
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[04-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/03/trump-lashes-out-at-michael-cohen-and-mueller-praises-roger-stone.html

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Trump demands stiff prison sentence for his ex-lawyer Michael Cohe...
A petulant President Donald Trump on Monday called for his ex-personal lawyer Michael Cohen to receive a stiff prison sentence for his admitted crimes, as he accused Cohen of making up "stories to get a GREAT & ALREADY reduced deal for himself."
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[04-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[04-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Strong men don't lose, Crow.


[04-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who loses isn't affiliated with them and must be beaten etc.


[04-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weak men lose their own.


[04-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Strong men's people never lose.


[04-Dec-18 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cohen knew his time was up and so he surrendered, trump meanwhile is now turnign his bakc on him because he's a weak man who surrounds himself with weak cowards and it's coming bakc to bite him


[04-Dec-18 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he's trying to cut off infected limbs in hopes it saves the rest of him but his whole body is infected and he can never cut enough off to beat it


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's interesting to see how quickly trump supporters turn on trump's people once they're "cut off" so to speak


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
and they can't even see the irony


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's the same thing with mueller


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump will turn ont hme in the end if he feels he needs to chop that limb off as well


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
mueller's a conservative


[04-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
the conservatives loved him when he was going after democrats


[04-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
but suddenly he started going after the conservatives, so they hate him now


[04-Dec-18 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump can campaign with the best of him but he;s not really a republican or a democrat, he;s a rich hoax of a man who was raised to win no matter the cost and to trust no one however he was never taught how to lose, or how to plan things out with patience


[04-Dec-18 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If he's losing ground he doesn;t knwo how to handle it so instead he just tries to dump weight liek a sinking ship's cargo


[04-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all image


[04-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't want to look weak.


[04-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is a strongman, remember.


[04-Dec-18 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump si basically these guys from star trek tng

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[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/419564-ocasio-cortez-fighting-climate-change-will-be-the-civil-rights

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Ocasio-Cortez: Fighting climate change will be ‘the Civil Rights...
Speaking at a televised town-hall Monday, Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that the government’s next steps towards fighting climate change need to be as momentous as the Civil Rights movement or NASA's push to put a man on the moon.
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[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
you know


[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
on top of actual fucking civil rights


[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
because we have to have this debate every 50 or so years


[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate was a mistake


[04-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every concession made for The South was a mistake.


[04-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anti-federalism doesn't work


[04-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
inevitably, some group of the smallest large gov'ts wants to do something shitty, and if there's enuff of them, they can do it


[04-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
A central gov't might be a little tyrannical, but that's what chekks and balances are for


[04-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
the states will never stop tyranny


[04-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Crow#5457

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[04-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
did someone say


[04-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
the Senate?


[04-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Accurate depiction of Southern interests-controlled Senate right there.


[04-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bourbon, soul food (invented by slaves) and racism is all the South ever gave the US.


[04-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We legitimately probably would have been better off letting them have a 30 year independence experiment than anything.


[04-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course Germany would have probably gotten fucked up with them because of course they would


[04-Dec-18 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
fried chicken is good shit


[04-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta love American food like apple pie (English dish made from Kazakh fruit) barbeque (Carribbean) and french fries (Belgian)


[04-Dec-18 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america invented deep butter fried butter on a stick fried in more butter


[04-Dec-18 06:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Thought that was Scotland?


[04-Dec-18 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it?


[04-Dec-18 06:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was unveiled at a texas state fair in 2009


[04-Dec-18 06:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In 2011 in Edinburgh, Scotland, a pub named The Fiddler's Elbow served a dessert dish named "Braveheart Butter Bombs" that consists of deep-fried butter served with ice cream infused with Irn-Bru soda and coulis.


[04-Dec-18 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-03/trump-s-advisers-struggle-to-explain-deal-he-says-he-cut-with-xi


[04-Dec-18 06:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
link isnt working for me


[04-Dec-18 06:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's "refusing" to connect


[04-Dec-18 06:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are news sites just at odds with my internet provider?


[04-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe


[04-Dec-18 06:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this the viacom thing all over again?


[04-Dec-18 06:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://splinternews.com/no-one-can-explain-trumps-trade-deal-with-china-1830838417

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No One Can Explain Trump's Trade 'Deal' With China
Today, President Deals announced a stunning achievement: after months of tension between the U.S. and China over trade, in one dinner with President Xi Jinpin Trump managed to get China to agree to getting rid of tariffs on American car exports and buying more agricultural p...
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[04-Dec-18 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically trump and xi jinping made an oral deal on a "truce" with no written form of agreement


[04-Dec-18 06:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can we take a tenth of the military budget for a robust public transportation network so I can visit NOLA as a weekend trip for free?


[04-Dec-18 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish the public transport infrastructure was properly funded


[04-Dec-18 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my town could use some public transport


[04-Dec-18 06:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
I could really just use a train from my town to Lansing, the state capital, so I don't have to worry about driving.


[04-Dec-18 06:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can study on the train or some shit


[04-Dec-18 06:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Instead of worrying about every car around me.


[04-Dec-18 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
*Laughs in Australian*


[04-Dec-18 07:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
trains are so damn comfy


[04-Dec-18 07:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
trams too


[04-Dec-18 07:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
and busses fill the gaps just fine if you've got those two as well


[04-Dec-18 07:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
I rode street cars in New Orleans. They were opd style with wood seats by the convenience and experience was enjoyable. I keep thinking of a black woman that shared a car with me once, I should have asked to take a picture because the way she sat there was very picturesque. She rested he chin on the bench in front of her and looked out the window as her kid sat next to her playing by himself, quietly


[04-Dec-18 07:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's been maybe six months and I'm kicking my ass over that.


[04-Dec-18 07:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was a peak shared experience, unrealized.


[04-Dec-18 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/1sr6xRc

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My home got vandalized last night
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[04-Dec-18 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
that swastika is more like an autistika


[04-Dec-18 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
also that guy got his house and car vandalized


[04-Dec-18 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
due to being jewish


[04-Dec-18 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
MURICA


[04-Dec-18 08:08 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Haha coz racists lives only in murica


[04-Dec-18 08:09 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWnanaFeelsDumbMan:


[04-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/sdTGbte.jpg

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[04-Dec-18 08:23 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWvertiPeepoSadMan:


[04-Dec-18 11:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Dec-18 11:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Long live freedom!!!


[04-Dec-18 11:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AlchemistLiang 

From the snow?


[04-Dec-18 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mcconnell-says-lawmakers-will-avoid-government-shutdown-2018-12-04

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McConnell says lawmakers will avoid government shutdown
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell predicts lawmakers would avert a government shutdown when a proposed stopgap measure expires later this month, saying neither party wants the political blame for a lapse in funding.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-FZ467_mcconn_ZG_20171203172517.jpg


[04-Dec-18 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-shutdown/2018/12/trump-keeps-up-pressure-on-dems-over-border-wall/

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Congress seeks 2-week extension to avert government shutdown
Congressional aides said it appears likely that lawmakers will seek a two-week government funding extension to to avert a partial government shutdown this week.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Trump_Border_Wall_77884.jpg


[04-Dec-18 04:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/04/673195387/france-freezes-fuel-tax-hike-in-face-of-yellow-vest-protests

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France Freezes Fuel Tax Hike In Face Of Yellow Vest Protests
"No tax deserves to endanger the unity of the nation,"  French Prime Minister Édouard Philippe says, putting on hold a new tax that was scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/12/04/ap_18338446673600_wide-a90b81b9faba854bc44186aaa8a23e40a206866d.jpg?s=1400


[04-Dec-18 04:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Snap elections pls, get that Macaroni fool out of office.


[04-Dec-18 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kinda surprised trump didnt make tiny birkc walls instead of christmas trees this year


[04-Dec-18 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/russians-at-g-20-chide-trump-for-canceling-putin-meeting-blame-us-politics.html

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Russians tease Trump for canceling G-20 meeting with Putin, blame ...
Senior Russian officials publicly chided U.S. President Donald Trump following his announcement on Thursday that he would no longer meet with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin during the G-20 summit of world leaders in Argentina this week.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/11/30/105602980-1543611129906gettyimages-1066818340.1910x1000.jpeg


[04-Dec-18 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://dailyhodl.com/2018/12/04/g20-nations-agree-to-reform-crypto-regulation-in-response-to-rapidly-changing-world/

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G20 Nations Agree to Reform Crypto Regulation in Response to “Ra...
All G20 nations are coming together to sign a declaration agreeing to initiate reform to keep up with the rapidly digitizing global economy. Although the G20 report states that “transformative technologies are expected to bring immense economic opportunities, including new ...
https://dailyhodl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/g20-buenos-aires.jpg


[04-Dec-18 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/04/nrcc-hack-2018/2203910002/

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Reports: NRCC says it was hacked during 2018 campaign, emails of t...
The campaign arm for House Republicans was hacked during the 2018 election cycle, exposing sensitive emails, according to reports.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/08/08/USAT/06b16518-e95d-4051-955f-a35968711a01-breaking-news-logo-POLITICS.png?crop=3008,1679,x191,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[04-Dec-18 08:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Emails.


[04-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
None ever made public, eh?


[04-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder why...


[04-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
"Exact moment each world leader realizes Trump mis-signed new NAFTA agreement"
https://i.imgur.com/ILRLeb8.mp4

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[04-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
"He signed across all 3 signature lines.... idiot."


[04-Dec-18 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46448299

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Former leader Nigel Farage quits UKIP
The Brexiteer says he does not recognise the party anymore and criticises links with Tommy Robinson.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11603/production/_104617117_fc3004c7-f026-43e1-b2f5-b44e1f93ffea.jpg


[04-Dec-18 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>quit the party he helped foster because it's getting too radical


[04-Dec-18 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lolwut


[04-Dec-18 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AheUdashlGE

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Socialism Or Barbarism!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AheUdashlGE
These Fuel Taxes Say A Lot About Our Society
Background song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjsU4mqSdhU
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[04-Dec-18 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Anarcho-Shitposting channel has decided to stop shitpost to info post about France.


[04-Dec-18 11:41 PM] moonatik#3676
i absolutely hate how neoliberalism has actually convinced some people that climate change is OUR fault


[04-Dec-18 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
"STOP USING PLASTIC STRAWS"


[04-Dec-18 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


[04-Dec-18 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
"How could six billion people individually decide to ruin the world?"


[04-Dec-18 11:42 PM] moonatik#3676
it's the fault of careless corporations and reckless governments


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] moonatik#3676
hell the vast majority of plastic in the ocean is from fishing companies


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] moonatik#3676
not straws


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Coporate fishing fleets using plastic nets.


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think we should go back to hemp


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
At least then being a plant based fiber it'll break down


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] moonatik#3676
we should make everything out of hemp lmao


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] moonatik#3676
in other news


[04-Dec-18 11:43 PM] moonatik#3676

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[04-Dec-18 11:44 PM] moonatik#3676
the british government has been found in contempt of parliament by the parliament


[04-Dec-18 11:44 PM] moonatik#3676
here in britain a government needs a majority of seats in parliament for it to be considered at all legitimate


[04-Dec-18 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
A normal day in the UK


[04-Dec-18 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/04/uk/brexit-legal-advice-contempt-of-court-gbr-intl/index.html

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Brexit: UK government found in contempt of Parliament
Theresa May's government will publish Brexit legal advice after lawmakers found it in contempt of Parliament.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181128090247-01-brexit-lead-super-tease.jpg


[04-Dec-18 11:45 PM] moonatik#3676
yeah that


[04-Dec-18 11:46 PM] moonatik#3676
now that this has happened it's quite clear that the government has no parliamentary majority and, in the eyes of precedent, no legitimacy


[04-Dec-18 11:47 PM] moonatik#3676
it's almost certain that the brexit deal wont go through parliament now


[04-Dec-18 11:47 PM] moonatik#3676
and then it's either no exit deal or no brexit at all


[04-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
I hate how neoliberalism has convinced most of the US that democrats are left and republicans are right


[04-Dec-18 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
I know it's been said around the left that if Donald Trump has shown anything, it's that a proper alternative message can absolutely break through the normal political machine. Between he and Bernie Sanders there was a large turn out against the middle of the road modern liberal policies of the Clinton Camp and any mainstream Republican before Trump.


[04-Dec-18 11:54 PM] moonatik#3676
what crow said tbh


[04-Dec-18 11:54 PM] moonatik#3676
actually what aaron said as well


[04-Dec-18 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a matter now of whether or not the progressive left movement in particular can grow to create a robust alternative to the Dems themselves.


[04-Dec-18 11:54 PM] moonatik#3676
you're both spot on


[04-Dec-18 11:55 PM] moonatik#3676
the greatest obstacle to the progressive left is the corporate wing of the democratic party


[04-Dec-18 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/EBpMPEJuS90

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Art House Politics
https://youtu.be/EBpMPEJuS90
Progressives So Wholesome, Corporates So Scared (Alexandria Ocasio...
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[04-Dec-18 11:56 PM] moonatik#3676
republicans aren't a threat due to how much more popular progressive left policies are and because they have no idea how to combat them


[04-Dec-18 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
the democratic party has convinced progressives that their only option to win is to make concessions by voting for mainstream democrats


[04-Dec-18 11:56 PM] moonatik#3676
fox news was like "THESE LEFTIES ARE EVIL! THEY WANT MEDICARE FOR ALL AND A GREEN NEW DEAL!"


[04-Dec-18 11:56 PM] moonatik#3676
which is basically free advertising


[04-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
the biggest attack I see on cortez is that she doesn't know what she's talking about with regards to paying for her policies even though she has a degree in economics


[05-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well that's the right's response to anything left of them, even mainstream democrats. "So-and-so can't do that, they don't actually understand what they're doing. They're going to ruin the economy."


[05-Dec-18 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a pretty normal and empty counter-argument.


[05-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they really mean is


[05-Dec-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think John McCain's daughter, Meghan is on The View as a co-host and she went off against Ocasio-Cortez to the derision of the crowd who all love her and her policies.


[05-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
"economists don't believe in doing illegal things, but I do, it's naive to do it legal"


[05-Dec-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
And her fellow co-hosts had to settle her down.


[05-Dec-18 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"taxes shouldnt be used for their intended purpose! they shoudl be used to line our pockets which is what i promise to do!"


[05-Dec-18 12:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it_WNP8u_Mo

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France's Yellow Jackets Are Driving Fury At Macron: 'There Is An A...
On the one side sits a hugely powerful global leader who made his fortune as an investment banker, then in his 30s took power of the world’s seventh-biggest ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/it_WNP8u_Mo/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between violent nationalism and other forms of violent protests like the yellow jackets?


[05-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Violent nationalism being the destruction of other national groups or minorities within the nation as an ideological outgrowth of the superiority of the present political leadership, where as violent protest is what happens when ignored people can't be ignored much longer so take to the one avenue of power they got left: throwing bricks.


[05-Dec-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you don't want the later then you simply take into account what the would-be protestors are asking for and adjust policies to accommodate their requests before they turn into demands.


[05-Dec-18 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The former is just not letting them get into power, because once they do you get "voluntary" removal of unwanted demographics.


[05-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but the term nazi seems to be a growing term it's simple linquistics


[05-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
once you get rid of all the nazis who's next


[05-Dec-18 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, not really. the people who get Nazi thrown at them deserve it. They fill all the check marks.


[05-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
even the liberals...


[05-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
even the terfs


[05-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well Terfs are fashy, so they deserve a punt.


[05-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
even the jew...


[05-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
everone seems to forget that shapiro is jewish


[05-Dec-18 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're clearly just trying to dillute the terminology yourself based on some false assumption peddled by a particular group of people. I do highly recommend you stop listening to free speech warriors.


[05-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not me.


[05-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'll be ignoring your suggestion because I'm not a braindead monkey who is being brainwashed I came into the free speech warriors because I've been one for years


[05-Dec-18 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
The absolute ideology of this lad.


[05-Dec-18 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's a difference between not letting nazis spew hate and rounding up all the jews and gassing them


[05-Dec-18 12:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
*nods in agreement with crow*


[05-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being Jewish doesn't make someone unable to be fascist.


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
kinda excludes them from being a nazi though


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they're not the same


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
mussolini v hitler


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
which is a screw attack death battle I'd pay to watch


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Latching onto the term "nazi" isn't a good idea here


[05-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
the modern fascists do not hav the same lines drawn as the old German ones


[05-Dec-18 12:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the hard alt right does although they've kinda expanded the term white people quite a bit


[05-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
still hate jews though and it's a source of free chuckles


[05-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern Fascism usually is against non-whites and non-Christians (especially Jews), which is very similar to Nazi Fascism


[05-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern white nationalism however tends to be more concerned with mulims than Jews, while hating both, usually.


[05-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's jews I listen to their rambeling they think muslim "immgrants" are only invading because the jews are weakening the west.


[05-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the funny bit is that the islamists think the alt right are cucks


[05-Dec-18 12:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's all a big batch of collectivist idiocy to me though


[05-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not collectivist


[05-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
by definition it is all facism is collectivist.


[05-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
all communism is the same


[05-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism isn't communism and it's not all the same.


[05-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
each picks a collective to advocate group rights for


[05-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they consider eachother heratics though you're right about that


[05-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is not collectivism.


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Collectivism is about forgoing individual rights in favor of the whole.


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijYEYzAQu0

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Peter Coffin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijYEYzAQu0
Individualism v. Individuality (VERY IMPORTANT DOCS №10)
We must celebrate our unique thoughts and traits. At the same time, powerful people looking to use our individuality against us - individualism is the ideolo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eijYEYzAQu0/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism is collectivist generally.


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no that's a somewhat contaminated


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
def


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is individualist.


[05-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is not really either.


[05-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
collectivism is the advancement of the group at the expense of the individual


[05-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism simply defines which groups and individuals matter, and which do not, and says the former must oppress the latter.


[05-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFh6Yy-rIB8&index=5&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1c9VBdAi6efQAZPoZ-UcdC&t=0s

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFh6Yy-rIB8&index=5&list=PLM9L2W5aOI_1c9VBdAi6efQAZPoZ-UcdC&t=0s
Liberal Ideas #3 - Individualism vs Collectivism
Collectivism leads to injustice. Livestream Channel: http://tinyurl.com/pnss243 Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SargonofAkkad/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vFh6Yy-rIB8/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Sargon


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
m8 if you're using his definitions, you got a problem


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
but we already knew he had a problem


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has a big, big horse in this race


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
it starts with not believing facts


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and it's borderline fascist)


[05-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
msm reporting are not facts


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sargon doesn't read.


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's proved that again and again


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sargon just regurgitates the fringe media


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
So he's the least useful tool in the shed.


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is less factual than the mainstream


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm just gonna do what trump does then


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
you are fake news


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
it's about as effective as arguing with you


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I beat him to mien kamph and he read it


[05-Dec-18 12:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
*doesn't listen* wow arguing isn't effective


[05-Dec-18 12:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh freeze peach


[05-Dec-18 12:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how low have we fallen that the principles that made america the ruling empire of earth are now spat on


[05-Dec-18 12:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
Carlgon's 'debate' is literally yelling over the opposition and asking loaded, bad faith questions btw


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
did you acctualy watch his debates.


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh no


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder there's still always an individual in a collective, and any individual can join a collective to look out for their collective interests. In reality there is no absolute collectivism or individualism. Neolibs and Thatcherites might try to claim otherwise, there's only the individual, but anyone serious about this shit knows they're full of shit.


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, I've seen them, he really is that bad


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
or did you read a right up from "authoritative sources"


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
free speech didn't make america the ruling empire of the world


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
world war II did


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
he engages from the facade of tfw too rational, so smug, makes others look like an idiot by acting in terrible faith and talking over them


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
look at mythcon, lmao


[05-Dec-18 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
seems you reject history too


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
aaron you have a blind spot for collectives that try and absorb people against their will


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav read 0 information from the "msm" on Sargon


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh collectivism bad


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav watched some of his vids


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
seems you're all desprate to dismiss the critic


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
he gets basic facts wrong


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
he regurgitates information with exaggeration, innuendo, and outrage


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
individualism is the ideology of brainlets when 100 corporations rape the world and you pretend you mean anything as an individual


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I used tow atch sargon back when SJW were a bigger deal thna they are now. He likely hasnt aged well sicne then


[05-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Nile#1441
Individualism is gay, but for different reasons than leftists will say.


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
now I know you're just reading write up dissconect


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was never that good to begin with


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
SJUWs are just easy pikkings, straw men to burn


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Notice that these fuckers won't say


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Debate Richard D. Wolff


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
only literally who college students


[05-Dec-18 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
COMRADE WOLFF


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who?


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because his country is infested with them he's acctualy got serious holes in his free speech argument


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ef-1xFV5c

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Alienated TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ef-1xFV5c
Dr. Richard Wolff & Chapo - Critical Analysis of The Boss Baby (2017)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z2ef-1xFV5c/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Professors, professionals, well read people that are actually prepared to debate


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) American socialist and economist. He's got credentials.


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
they debate people 'beneath' them generally, like see Kyle's brainlet crowder meme


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Professor-tier.


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Sargon isn't that good tbh


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
crowder throws up a stand and asks college students loaded questions, then ridicules them


[05-Dec-18 12:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
academics pls respond


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Mikey#7286
he's not much better than Alex Jones


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
then he's got this fancy ass strawman to use against 'the left'


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
because he doesn't debate anyone worth shit or actually prepared in advance


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i stipped wathcign a lot of politicla youtubers awhile back around the gamergate thing


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
>Several people are typing


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
prove they're not this. why's tumblr destroying himself


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
he knows what he's asking, he's memorized his prescribed responsess


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
every time I look away for even a second everything explodes


[05-Dec-18 12:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are just some dude or gal


[05-Dec-18 12:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
that just stumbles across em


[05-Dec-18 12:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
>tfw was once terrified little left-centrist who didn't want to explore the politics of YouTube because omg they might be inhuman. Then I do and probe the left and I learn, "Wow, these are the most human people on the internet."


[05-Dec-18 12:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
hell, even 1 book miracle muke, as silly as he is beats carlgon


[05-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've seen psycos on both sides


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i used to also watch teal deer as well


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you rely on making shit up, pulling shit out of your ass, asking loaded questions, accusing your opponent of 'you want this slippery slope thing to happen'


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
wew


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah because tumblr is shit


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're probably garbage


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's not an answer why is tumblr dyeing


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijYEYzAQu0>
how often do collectivist societies preserve individuality?


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone is garbage, we are garbage people


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
yes it is


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they don't


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
tumblr is killing themselves


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
now it's not


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why


[05-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
yes it is


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why then why is it shit


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
\:typing:


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tumblr basically alienated mostof the people who psot their art there. without the art community they have no real purpose left


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
because they're pushing away the majority of their userbase and only trying to please Apple


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why did they do that


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
but tumblr won't make it to the next year


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they are pple's whores


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
well mate, it's your personal responsibility to be just like everyone else as an individualist, lift yourself up by your bootstraps, study profitable things, not for enlightenment, but because you have to CONTRIBUTE and be RESPONSIBLE and WORK HARD as an individual because no-one should help you


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why are they trying to please apple


[05-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
because Apple removed their app from the app store for having NSFW content


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
except


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not it's not diss


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
mfw individualists are usually nearly the same person


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they followed profit but they didnt go where their profit has always been


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
like pottery


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why is tumblr and this is a pretty round about argument I'm about to make


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
the app was removed because of child porn


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
and tumblr decided that it was easier to ban all NSFW than just crack down on child porn


[05-Dec-18 12:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
freeze peach warriors are basically the same psuedo-intellectual person, almost every time


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah they blew up a fly with a remote bomb


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
and they also had a problem with porn bot blogs


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they used an umbrella to stop a dripping elak


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Pretty well. Like shit, if you want to go down to the most primitive form of human society, the tribe, there's still quiet a bit of individuality and even volunteerism. If you're a member of a tribe you're expected to do certain things to keep yourself and others alive, but the merit and identity you earn within the tribe is based on whatever else you do and your particular individual qualities. In Native American society, the people who could bring in the most resources were given the most weight, even though in voting they still had a vote equal to one. Individuals who showed the most bravery in war, were honest with everyone, and so on and  generally worked to make everyone's lives easier were given a higher status among the tribe, at least pertaining to their particular field of expertise; people who showed themselves to be good at war never had more influence than anyone else in time of peace.


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
freeze peach: if you're angry at me and protest and don't want to listen to my speech that's DEPLATFORMING and ANTI FREE SPEECH
protestors: but we're expressing our free speech m8


[05-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
but those won't go away when nsfw content is banned


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly tinks me dink


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porn bots are not easily stopped. i can tell yout his much after gettign run off skype by them


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
verizon stock even took a dive after they annnounced it


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Social wealth among early human society is even today determined by how much you help out, and you become perceived as a better person, and you're lauded more often.


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
mutual-aid based individualism is totally fine btw


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vs today, which is how much you can make from others determines your value


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
but the way we generally see it under today's neoliberal bullshit


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey that was a fluke


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
and porn bot blogs will be around until tumblr dies


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh bootstraps individualism


[05-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because social justice moralists are majority apple users and in order to continue being an ideological cesspool for tumblr idealouges they need to be in crapple's good graces ergo the blanket porn ban which is likely a ban radical idealouges have been advocating for years.


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
the stock drop wasn't due to the tumblr ban


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's the ideology of brainlets, through and through


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
verizon is run by investors who take the quick and easy way out even though it makes shit 100 time sharder for thme in th elong run


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
VZ stock dropped because JPMorganChase downgraded their profitability rating saying that they couldn't expand as a telco


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
it was due to being downgraded


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
it just happened to happen at the same time


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
eh, apple is garbage and is milking yall for money


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
I think it might actually be related


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
i won't miss tumblr tho


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no citations for that one I reasoned it out myself


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
also yes @dissociativity


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
buy a pre owned 2013 android flagship and flash android oreo lineage OS on it


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
they are


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
throw a new battery in


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont use apple shit


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
10/10 phone


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
5 year old phone is fast n good


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
wow


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye over charge


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
their crackdown on NSFW is an attempt to gain back their value


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
they've been shit since Steve Jobs died


[05-Dec-18 12:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
almost like planned obsolescence is a thing


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
and open source software can make a 5 year old device run fast af


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder why nobody really tries to break into the phone market with a new OS


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
just buy a new battery ,replace that damaged usb port


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
android is fine


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
lineage OS is fine


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
android has a lot of security flaws


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
because that would be retarded


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the one upside about twitter is that it breaks the illusion of authority the mainstream press has


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
lineage OS can be used without google botnet


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
f-droid is an excellent open source app store


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
the one thing that apple does better with its phone OS is security


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they're just as flawed and ideoligcly driven as sargon and his small orbit is


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
phones run faster and have better battery without google services


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
apple's security has plenty of NSA backdoors


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apple jsut made it impossible to repair your apple appliance without goign directlu to apple


[05-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's why I don't take the msm seriously


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's been disproven


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
by NSA backdoors, they just claim to be 'secure', make publicity stunts to get sales


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
that refusal to open a terrorist phone?


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
publicity stunt


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
no, you don't take the """msm""" seriously because you're a fucking looney lol


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's just and adhom


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
all 32 bit ARM iphones are totally exploited at this point, and there's a tonne of exploits for others


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it is


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
mr logical fallicy guru


[05-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't feel like playing by the rules anymore


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
because you never do


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh CNN and Fox are both pretty shit


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
android totally encrypts the EMMC by default these days


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
"no u!1!!"


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
only older devices aren't secure


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
ad nauseum


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
what's an MSM, Methylsulfonylmethane?


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I never agreed to the fallicy rule


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the fallicy fallicy renders the entire point mooot


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look, let;s just all agree the batman gambit isn;t workign here, the joker won this round


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, fight planned obsolescence


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
always buy pre owned


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] ononim#8141
>joker


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
learn to repair your own shit


[05-Dec-18 12:53 AM] ononim#8141
*gamers*


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
only buy phones with IPS LCDs


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] ononim#8141
**RISE UP**


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
AMOLED = $300+ screen


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Nile#1441
Don't tell me what to do, peasant


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
IPS = $30 new screen


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly tinks me dink


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
just buy a nokia phone tbh


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont evne have a smart phone


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
brand loyalty is dumb


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
don't buy any brand in particular


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
nokia went to android


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
only one with cheap parts and a good open source OS


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
from windows


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just ignore mobile phones because the mindset behind them is total shit


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brand loyalty is stupid dumb especially to apple


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
nokia phones are good and all


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
this is #\politics not #phone-repair


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah nah


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
#pony


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
brand loyalty is kinda political


[05-Dec-18 12:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
planned obsolescence is too


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Nile#1441
Close only counts in horseshoes


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's capitalism in action


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
the natural result of capitalism


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
the natural result of capitalism is death


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the concept is ok it's just the current state of the way the OS is built is absolute rubbish


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
your old devices is good, but our new one is arbitrarily better


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
let's gimp the old devices


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
the goal of all life is death


[05-Dec-18 12:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
and make replacing a consumable that rapidly loses capacity after 2 years, a battery hard


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
yep


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the natrual result of communism is genocide


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
you live and you die and then nothing


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
just eternal void


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the goal of all life is terminal rocks


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
you pony and you pony and then pony


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the natural result of hard socialism is communism


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Nile#1441
Capitalism already suffers from spiritual death, as it often produces idolatrous money worship.


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
a stateless, classless society involves less genocide mate


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless you mean landlord genocide


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Nile#1441
Physical death is obvious


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
nothing wrong with that


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
the natural result of listening to harazu keshtah for any time period is trauma from the violent assault of stupidity and ignorance


[05-Dec-18 12:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
landlords are parasites


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Mikey#7286
all political systems suck in their own way


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Nile#1441
"landlords are parasites"


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ftr sargon isn't the best at debates he's better at framing rational arguments.


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Nile#1441
This reads like "why muh rent go up 😠 "


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
rational arguments depend on logical validity


[05-Dec-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
not just soundness


[05-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he got his ass positivly kicked by louislevau on the issue of artistic expression


[05-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Mikey#7286
THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH!


[05-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Nile#1441
Sargon got beat by gay alt-righters too


[05-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Nile#1441
Sad


[05-Dec-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the price of lego IS TOO DAMN HIGH!


[05-Dec-18 12:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if styx hadn't left that chat spoonclank would have prevailed


[05-Dec-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who any of these people are


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean housing price inflation is a legitimate problem


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
and landlords are complicit in it


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
sargon vid linked above made during what I refer to his golden age look up styxhexenhammer666 for the other guy


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
*cough* 2008 crash


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maybe it's because the property taxes are too high


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
*cough* 2020 crash


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh taxes are too high


[05-Dec-18 01:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
radical brainlet right here


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
government literally had to bail out banks n shit


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
give them FREE MONEY


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
but taxes are too high


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
ha


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just about every fiscal right winger wanted to see the banks fail


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
how about you have decent healthcare


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
then talk about how taxes are bad


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
too big to fail is to them a socalistic argument


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
*laughs in australian*


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
socialists don't like corporations at all


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
t.socialist


[05-Dec-18 01:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
banks can get BTFO'd


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
credit union gang


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
unless they're govermenet owned


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
>government owned bank


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
I see you're not living in this neoliberal age


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
what timeline are you in?


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
>government owned anything


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
wew


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
corpratism is just socialism through the back door


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
even in Australia we're privatizing anything we can get our grubby neoliberal hands on


[05-Dec-18 01:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
galaxy brain take


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a slogan I know


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the point is the end result of both


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
>socialists support capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
is the same


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly tinks me dink


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
cus you're talking about capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
state owned enterprises are still capitalist


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
state capitalist


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
corpratism is not capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
hahahahahahaha


[05-Dec-18 01:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're the same thing


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
corporatism is a subtype of capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
The government really is just a big company. It takes money in to provide services out and no one can say otherwise because they're the only boy in town doing it.


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
the absolute ideology of this lad


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the regulations are explicetly desinged to create monoplies in this country.


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
>corpratism is not capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
stopped reading after this


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
monopolies are a natural result of capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Corporatism is peak capitalism.


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
no matter how reformed it is


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
in a capitalist system walmart should be out of buisness.


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
the only antidote is worker owned co-ops


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
lmao


[05-Dec-18 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, in a capitalist system WalMArt is doing fine as it is because it's making profit.


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's what it's doing, for the most part.


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Making its owners money.


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
walmart is just more efficient in making profit than others


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
and underpaying employees


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they exist because their potetintial small rivals are regulated out of buisness


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
The organization doesn't matter. Just the process of profit.


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
mom and pop businesses are shit tier


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
and underpay even more


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a myth that they're better


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
they usually exploit worse


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
and they fail because they cannot profit as efficiently


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism rewards profit efficiency


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
all small buisneeses I go to are always better than the corprate alternative


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you can't compete, you're drowned by the market


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also do less to personaly piss me off


[05-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
is education being the #1 employer in a state a good or bad thing


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
if it's private, bad


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
if it's public, good


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
made by free education gang


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine paying for education


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
thank god Suny is the biggest in my state


[05-Dec-18 01:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
just read a book m8


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the reasont they can't compete is because the goverment puts absurd regulatory burderns crafted explicitly to favor old dead corperations


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are less efficient


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
without government


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
they'd be crushed even more


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
without regulation, wages would be lower


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
and these companies would be far more profitable


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
imagine not knowing history of business that much


[05-Dec-18 01:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
because under capitalism only profit matters


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
profit is the only measure of success


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
in reality you can't eat money and GDP doesn't mean shit


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] ononim#8141
firms literally made their own towns when there were no regulation in US


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and then walmart drives small businesses out of time, people who spent their lives building a business and then walmart fucks them in the ass because they can't compete and they lose their livelihood


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'd rather have low GDP, but food, shelter, education be a right


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
internet be a right


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
power be a right


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the far left condems hate when hate is the solution to corpratism all a small unregulated buisnsess needs to do is sell hatred of walmart


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
but capitalism, like a tumour, cancer, demands constant growth


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Mikey#7286
i've seen cases of towns protesting to prevent walmart coming in


[05-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and they succeed


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
gdp is a pointless mesure of anything


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's like fighting automation


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] Mikey#7286
that's how much some people hate them


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're fighting the inevitable under capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
eventually one small business in the town will open multiple stores


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
become bigger


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
have a monopoly


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
because they're more popular, more profitable


[05-Dec-18 01:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can't yeet them out because that's contradictory to capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's like fighting automation


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's the one area where goverment is supposed to intervine but they don't because they're paied off


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
before Sam Walton died he didn't want to run businesses out of town, he cared about the company and the employees


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] my cold lover#0031
Actually, we have oligopolies right now


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
we can only move forward


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
for better or for worse


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
profit must grow like a cancer


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
those are called trusts


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] my cold lover#0031
Oligopolies are, for all intents and purposes, even worse than monopolies-


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can only stall profit


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
oligopoly is just newspeak to obscure the reality of them being trusts


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
but the bourgeoisie will always win under capitalism


[05-Dec-18 01:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
no matter how unregulated or regulated


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] my cold lover#0031
the bourgeoisie will always win period


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're quoteing an antique and dead ideology


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
if the market truly was free anywhere, I could start a business without having the money to start a business


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the dichotomy dosen't exist


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
I could compete based on my good ideas


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it is not free, with an entry fee


[05-Dec-18 01:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
never is it free


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
the large entry fee means most are slaves to a boss


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism must keep expanding or it dies, that applies on an individual level all the way up to internationally


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
and that is how it shall remain


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] my cold lover#0031
All ideologies are dead and antique


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
once capitalism runs out of room to grow, everyting will crash


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] my cold lover#0031
_Existence is plagiarism_


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
everything marxism is built on is broken because of the postmodern condition despite the postmodern rehtoric the neomarxist types employ


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
it shall only get worse until it all falls apart


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh postmodern


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh neomarxists


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] my cold lover#0031
>despite the postmodern rehtoric the neomarxist types employ


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
marxism isn't postmodern


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's materialist


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
modern


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] ononim#8141
lmao


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] ononim#8141
CHAOS DRAGONS RISE UP


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] my cold lover#0031
Marxism is materialist, which postmodernism denies


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
obviously postmodernism invalidates the entire theory


[05-Dec-18 01:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
based on analysis of material reality


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
based on dead issues and presuppostions that are wrong


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
what was that quote by some UK businessman in the late 1800's?


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
what is, what is coming to be based on history, material, things that have happened


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
>dead issues


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
🤔


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
he said that he can't even remember the names of all his local competitors after he went national and they didn't


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
working class poor and work for bourgeoisie


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
have not changed


[05-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's an issue in the communist east 🤔


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
basically his business thrived while theirs stagnated and died because he expanded nationwide while they stayed local


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
middle class shrinking and shrinking


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's not parasitism it's mutualism


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
people stuck in class they are born as


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
hmm


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly makes me think


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're being taxed out of existence


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
rich get richer, poor get poorer


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh tax


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
a bogus notion pushed by socialists


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
lowering taxes only makes rich get richer and buy more stocks


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
and that's happening with businesses expanding from national to international the past 4 decades or so


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally every time taxes go down


[05-Dec-18 01:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
workers see nothing


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
corporations just buyback more stocks


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you sure about that they have more money


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
mate


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
bezos could solve world hunger and shit


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
he doesn't need more money


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] my cold lover#0031
>a bogus notion pushed by socialists


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
more money does fucking nothing to these people


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] my cold lover#0031
[Citation needed]


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
how can one need more money?


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
who the hell put you in charge of other people's money


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
what can one do with more money that the current amount of money cannot do?


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's not anyone's buisness but their own


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] ononim#8141
who put them in charge of people lives :^)


[05-Dec-18 01:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
one could radically change the earth as we know it with that kinda money


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
the whole damn planet


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the price is too damn high


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] ononim#8141
Not if that money comes from ewxplotation of others


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
but they won't, not for the better anyway


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
the amount of money made in the US could solve poverty in the US and give everyone an upper-middle class lifestyle like 7 times over iirc


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh ayn randian brainletism


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
you read ayn rand, didn't you, I thought we warned you


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] ononim#8141

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[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
read Stirner


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
working isn't exploitation esspecialy not here in the west


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
get de-spooked


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] ononim#8141
found photo of Harazu


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
communist china


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
ayn rand?


[05-Dec-18 01:17 AM] ononim#8141
>"comunist"


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
hahahahahahahaha


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] ononim#8141
And I am not even talking about mao china


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] ononim#8141
But


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] ononim#8141
>modern mainland


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Dengism


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
wew


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
wew lad


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
the absolute state


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] my cold lover#0031
Dengism is pretty based  tbqh


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
of this ideology


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I need to go walk to the train station


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
aside from metaphysics I'm more a nitchzen


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
bubye


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] my cold lover#0031
It's Nitzschean


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
are you people threatening me


[05-Dec-18 01:18 AM] ononim#8141
@my cold lover hol up I gotta find that one Deng quote where he blasts modern dengists


[05-Dec-18 01:19 AM] ononim#8141
wat


[05-Dec-18 01:19 AM] my cold lover#0031
Deng is pretty based


[05-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that quote from disccon sounds a lot like a threat


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also to any socialism lovers out there one word venezuala


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
what


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
>vuvuzela


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how's venezula doing these days


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
love being "gotchad" with country where 7-% of economy is private


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
70%*


[05-Dec-18 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: norway is technically more socialist than venezuela


[05-Dec-18 01:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've been over this already 0% of it is private that's a snapshot and not the effective reality


[05-Dec-18 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
FOUND IT


[05-Dec-18 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
@my cold lover


[05-Dec-18 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.azquotes.com/quote/717022

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Deng Xiaoping Quote
China is not a superpower, nor will she ever seek to be one... If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the wo...


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
once you just nationalise something there's literaly nothing stopping you from nationaising everything


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's just theft masqurading as a moral good.


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] my cold lover#0031
Based as fuck


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] ononim#8141
>nationalizing


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] ononim#8141
>bad


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] my cold lover#0031
>also to any socialism lovers out there one word venezuala


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] my cold lover#0031
OH  G O T T  E M


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] ononim#8141
anyway, nice to see that you answer to fact is to deny them :^)


[05-Dec-18 01:22 AM] my cold lover#0031
NEVER HEARD _THAT_ ONE BEFORE


[05-Dec-18 01:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'd prefer to own things thanks and I don't want socialists deciding what I do with my money even what little money I have


[05-Dec-18 01:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and for sure I don't want any handouts because of the unhealthy relationshipt that entails


[05-Dec-18 01:23 AM] my cold lover#0031
Since that's the case I guess you're down with small community anarcho-communism since it's been working for over 30 years down in the Chiapas then?


[05-Dec-18 01:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
untill someone decides to invade.


[05-Dec-18 01:24 AM] ononim#8141
**NATIONALIZE TOOTHBRUSHES**


[05-Dec-18 01:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I answer a truism with logic


[05-Dec-18 01:24 AM] ononim#8141
You're funny lad, but not as funny as ld


[05-Dec-18 01:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's my fucking toothbrush hands off I earned my toothbrush


[05-Dec-18 01:25 AM] ononim#8141
>he actually doesn't know the difference between provate and personal property


[05-Dec-18 01:25 AM] ononim#8141
but of course


[05-Dec-18 01:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I honestly can't stand the arrogence of people who go around saying that you have too much of something because I picked an arbitrary number out of my ass


[05-Dec-18 01:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what's the diffrence in practice not in theory


[05-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
theories are nice but practicaility is king


[05-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
what happens when you have too much money is that you're buying entire floors of expensive 5 star hotels to convert into a living space for your cat


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://fusion.tv/story/140185/who-is-chuck-blazer-former-fifa-executive/

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Fusion
https://fusion.tv/story/140185/who-is-chuck-blazer-former-fifa-executive/
What to know about Chuck Blazer: man who had a Trump Tower apartme...
Anyone unfamiliar with the delights of Chuck Blazer needs a primer on the man who's helping take his former cronies at FIFA.
https://i0.wp.com/fusion.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/blazersepp.jpg?crop=0px%2C307px%2C3307px%2C1737px&resize=1200%2C630&quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it's their money I have no right to tell them they're not entitiled to it and that's someone who has pretty much no money


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Doesn't stop dialectics.


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
it was trump tower even


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
dialectic historical progress is a dead idea


[05-Dec-18 01:27 AM] my cold lover#0031
lmao no it isn't


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
postmodern condition is real get over it


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] my cold lover#0031
"Every action causes a reaction" isn't a "dead" idea


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] my cold lover#0031
Historicism is dead


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
The small size of this brainlet's acorn


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
historical progress isn't real


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] my cold lover#0031
It isn't


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, liv in a mud hut then


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
modernism is a dead ideology


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
shit in a hole you dug without tools


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
tools are progress


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] my cold lover#0031
>MY DEAD IDEOLOGIES


[05-Dec-18 01:28 AM] my cold lover#0031
>MY ANCIENT IDEOLOGIES


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know the funny thing about Luddites?


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
I bet this fool hasn't read a book


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They tend to say technology is bad


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then go around using advanced farming technology from the 1700s


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] my cold lover#0031
Jesus fuck, just admit you go along with whatever is popular you dumb brainlet.


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's all arbitrary though there's no objective progress one arbitrary intellecutal change and the whole world is diffrent


[05-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things actually do hav purpose


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you consider tribal warfare, it's not just arbitrary.


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not everything


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hindsight is 2020


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most things hav purpose, people tend to gravitate to what works.


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
diffrent paradigme diffrent ways of thinking


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things being different doesn't mean we can't compare their effectiveness.


[05-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
is this the same justification anti-vaxxers use to justify the massive death that would be caused by no longer vaccinating


[05-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
economic dialaectic is the most dead


[05-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's all about paradigme and postmodernism is the paradigme.


[05-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it does seem to be drifting to a form of neomodernism though


[05-Dec-18 01:32 AM] my cold lover#0031
If you were an actual Nietzschean that read actual books by Nietzscheans you'd knew you're just describing changes in the ruling power, rather than actual fundamental changes


[05-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but that just might be my limited experience


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm never pure purity is as pointless as removing hate


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hatred can cause inefficiency.


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] my cold lover#0031
>I don't know what I'm talking about


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] my cold lover#0031
>"It's just my personal interpretation guys"


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing large amounts of it can improve society


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and generally does.


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hatred can cause efficency


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, remember


[05-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
he discounts all MSM


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if there's no sources of facts except some random bitchface on YouTube


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the communists and their hatred are efficient in extermination of the evil oppressors


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
his personal interpretation is just as valid


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] my cold lover#0031
>the communists and their hatred are efficient


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism is horribly inefficient.


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inefficiency is its main quality.


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except in genocide


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] my cold lover#0031
Weren't it the commies that got Russia to be efficient through inhuman means


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism is no better at genocide than conventional fascism.


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Listen to professor Civie here, Harazu


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] my cold lover#0031
Or are we going to pretend that Russia become modernized out of thin air


[05-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but they don't wanna admit that the only thing they do well is genocide


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] my cold lover#0031
>what is the EZLN


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] my cold lover#0031
>what is Free Korea


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
who is Joseph "Bro" Tito


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has a lower GDP than Canada and wasn't growing its economy well during the cold war, it's kinda hilarious.


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] my cold lover#0031
>what is Yugoslavia


[05-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might've done okay if not for the genocide slowing it down.


[05-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less workers tends to mean worse productivity.


[05-Dec-18 01:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Who is ready for cold war 2? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46443672

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Russia breaching missile treaty - Nato
The Nato alliance says Moscow is breaking a 1987 deal that rid Europe of land-based nuclear missiles.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/5374/production/_103946312_mediaitem103946311.jpg


[05-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
communism outcompeted nazisim for killing even jews


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
something like that was inevitable


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh both of them weren't efficient at it.


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] my cold lover#0031
>this meme argument again


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
capitalism kills people every day but nobody talks about that


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] my cold lover#0031
my favorite


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
our turn


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis originally wanted deportation of Jews, along with strongarming them out


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They killed BAJILLIONS!!!


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind that capitalism is also prone to mismanagement


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually as that became impractical, and the state-owned factories using slave labor became less efficient, it went to just gassing them


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Heavily prone, i'd say so


[05-Dec-18 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
I am back for a second (lord why you yanks are stirring shit when normal people are asleep? timezones were a mistake), but man, if you literally do not see the diference between swathes of land, forest, mine, fabric, an appartament building, et c from you car, your clothes, your bed, your pc, le toothbrush, when I am not sure what's to talk with you about


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin meanwhile went for state-owned stuff that never switched to proper gassing.


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, i'd go far enough to say that mismanagement is a feature of capitalism, not a bug


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism in its purest form leads to businesses effectively becoming communism


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] my cold lover#0031
???


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, any one power being in total control and being insulated from problems is bad.


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Businesses becoming fascism, you mean?


[05-Dec-18 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leads to inefficiency.


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That too.


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what nebbie said


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] my cold lover#0031
We're already in "Capitalism in its purest form"


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No we aren't


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our capitalism has a tinge of gov't regulation strewn across it


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
along with public services


[05-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is regulation is becoming weaker


[05-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
capitalism is thus becoming purer, and thus worse for us.


[05-Dec-18 01:40 AM] my cold lover#0031
The government serves the capitalists, not the other way around.


[05-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I think the issue isn't regulation being to much or few but it's matter of what and how things are regulated.


[05-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't needs to create competition with businesses by playing whakk-a-mole and providing its own alternatives


[05-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trustbusting and anti monopoly laws could fix a lot


[05-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way nobody's in total control and efficiency is high because the less efficient businesses die and the gov't can de facto control the few areas where there's gigantic positive externalities.


[05-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
good thing those are on the books the problem is the congress is corrupt


[05-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
getting extreme money out of politics is a good first start


[05-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
_casually glances at Trump's cabinet_


[05-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
gonna be an uphill battle, hopefully the orange gets impeached.


[05-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, he'll probably say it isn't Trump's fault


[05-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait for it


[05-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Betsy Devos btw right now is refusing to implement student loan forgiveness put in place by Obama


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump is just a stepping stone.


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
isn't it legally required that she do so?


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause all these for-profit colleges need their precious money


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't a stepping stone


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A stepping stone to what?


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a crony capitalist-fascist


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the whole point of trump is to get a super anti establismentarian into the whitehouse and congress


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes in big business destroying the countryside while minorities and people opposed to big business get shoved under it


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
mild reformer that's maligned by the corpratists in the press


[05-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's no different from any other traditional republicans, only that he coats his language in less euphemisms and supports protectionism for... some reason


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's not a reformer


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
he explicitly said in an interview that "Drain the swamp" is a lie


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump *is* the corporatist


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
that he just said it because people liked to hear it


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why does jeb bush hate him so much


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Jeb Bush is a moderate Republican


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
who isn't as corporatist and fascist


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's by no means anti-estabilishment, he's a **big businessman** for fuck's sake


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's a peice of shit


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're both pieces of shit


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is a bigger enemy.


[05-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're nuts if you think jeb bush isn't a corpratist shill


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he is


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wanna know a real example of an anti-estabilishment candidate? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Beto.


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Trump isn't even a shill


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is what you would shill for


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
cortez is a psycho


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump literally has gotten the tax code rewritten to further his own business.


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't want that woman anywhere near my money


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Provide evidence for your Cortez claim.


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She isn't, she's just widely difamed by a desperate GOP


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, doesn't she hav a degree in economics?


[05-Dec-18 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
he doesn't believe in evidence


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Course not, can claim anything if you don't accept evidence against it.


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unlike Trump, Cortez actively came from the strata of "the little people"


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nooooo she just emberases herself every time she has an interaction with corpratists like shapiro


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
bullshit


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's a lie


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It isn't?


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can claim to both be against capitalism and in support of Trump's stuff if you don't believe in evidence.


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they retracted that article btw


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does her embarrassing herself mean she doesn't know economics?


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
shame you missed the memo


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What article?


[05-Dec-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shame you missed this article i never provided


[05-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the one badger is talking about in that a far left mollusk media outlet lies about cortez's net worth


[05-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if she farts in front of Ben Shapiro, le Ubermensch, does that mean that global warming is a myth?


[05-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
😂


[05-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ben shapiro is an idiot and she lost to him


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a shill


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>he admits Shapiro is an idiot


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good, at least


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and she can't even beat a shill


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just spouts stuff until people feel like he won.


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shapiro is a sophist, a rhetorician


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not a pundit


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just "beat" someone who just spouts crafted lies.


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
she's nothing before someone with any intellectual backing I could rip her a new ashole


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s hard to defeat a moron in a debate because a moron doesn't know when to stop debating


[05-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't listen to you.


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she has an intellectual bakking.


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I could rip her a new asshole"


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao whatever makes you sleep at night


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
by a marxists intellectuals


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
and he sounds articulate but he just talks fast and acts intelligent


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ringing endoresment from master illusionists


[05-Dec-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Given that you, you know, ignore "big media" articles outright instead of directly reading them, critically


[05-Dec-18 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Protip: you won't get anywhere in politics if you don't read, kid


[05-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
She has a Bachelor's Degree in International Relations and a Minor in Economics


[05-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
means nothing


[05-Dec-18 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But Trump's experience as a businessman does, amirite


[05-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, if someone hasn't been indoctrinated as a Marxist, they know nothing? Wow.


[05-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, nothing Trump has ever done in his time in office supports Marxism other than farm subsidies.


[05-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trump's fortee is dealmaking and media manipulation he gets a lot of his phiosophica backing from bannon


[05-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which America has a long history of doing specifically because farmers vote)


[05-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bannon the ubercapitalist, yes.


[05-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
he's not a george washington but he's better than anyone in my short lifetime


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bannon, the former Goldman-Sachs assessor


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally doesn't understand what the nuclear triad is.


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So anti-estabilishment, amirite


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's forte is deal making with crime rings, and tax dodging while his biusiness crumble into dust


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, lemme tell you something, Harazu.


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember the Iraq War?


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
alcebiates


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't trump want to transform food stamps into boxes of pre-determined food


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember how it left the US in a massive debt?


[05-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
which is pretty much as soviet as you can get in the US


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how commodity economies grew in the post-Iraq period? Mainly, the BRICS countries.


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
one time at a rally, Trump talked about the hole in the ozone layer


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the US has been in massive debt for years


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
he said it was ridiculous that chlorofluourocarbons were banned


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
lol the debt doesn't even mean anything anymore it's so big


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
because when you spray them in a penthouse


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"that's all sealed"


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"it can't get to the atmosphere"


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
south africa is on the brink of economic ruin. brazil might munity from brics and russia is a paper tiger


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BRICS grew quite a lot during the post-Iraq period, mainly China


[05-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump literally does not understand the concept of air diffusion.


[05-Dec-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BRICS is gradually overtaking the old imperialist powers


[05-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
china is the most doomed of the bunch they're a parasite economy


[05-Dec-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, how do these former powers combat the rise of BRICS? Exactly, by trying to extend infiltrating influence over the societies of these countries.


[05-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wow russia and china aren't imperialist what fucking reality are you living in


[05-Dec-18 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I didn't say they weren't


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
tell that to the kazahks and the tibetans


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway, did you get the memo?


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
china is contributing a lot to global warming, too


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
more than the US


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is all a ploy by the first world elites to regain the power they lost.


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
China is taking it seriously as well


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
unlike Trump


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
china will fall as an economy


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who believes that it's a Chinese hoax


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao what


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
no I mean pollution


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they parasitise our economy


[05-Dec-18 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
china is quite literally too big to fail


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho it was put forward as a theory first by the west


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
but yeah they're taking the issue more seriously than drumpf


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
but it will eventualy


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As i say, it's the other way around


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the USA that might implode


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They already kind of are


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
nah


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
not really


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because of copratism but china is worse in that department india's economy is most likely to explode


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're capitalistic


[05-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
it's no different than it was in the last 20 or so years


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
India's economy isn't likely to explode either


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
serious social issues but still capitalisitc


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why is china surrendering on trade


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao what


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
>never read


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
>assert complete nonsense


[05-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
might I repeat that trump's forte is dealmaking


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
what ""deals"" has he made 🤔


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no it really isnt


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he's very good at making deals.


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's just an ideologue and nothing else


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
nothing good that's for sure


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way he's been negotiating with countries hasn't been getting us favorable deals


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s good at intimidatign people into deals but in th e[political world he sucks ass because no one is intimidated by him


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
chinese tarrifs being lowered


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All his "deals" have done little other than tarnish the USA's worldwide prestige


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It mostly just makes an issue of nothing and then reverts it.


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
who cares


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
the """deal""" with china boiled down to a verbal promise  made in private


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
trump is nothing more than a conman


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
about the opinions of despots and dictators


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
which has zero binding


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who cares? **Everyone.**


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
a shady businessman


[05-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As in, inside and outside the US.


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesnt do written deals


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
*cares nothing for the opinions of european dictators*


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because hels programmed himself to never elave a papertrail


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except Putin, he's cool-cool


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
putin's just as bad as the rest of them


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, what dictators?


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump worships the gorund putin walks on


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
house of saud, the goverments of france and germany to name a few


[05-Dec-18 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it matters when the opinion of your leader is policy


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
he also worships the ground Kim Jong Un walks on now, too


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
says a bunch of opininonated journos


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
uh, since when was saudi arabia in europe


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Daily reminder that Trudeau leads a country with a better GDP than Putin.


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
France and Germany are not dictatorships btw


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because that's how east asians dopolitics


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make all the Trudeau jokes you want but remember that


[05-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why are they raiding people's homes for posting dissenting opinions


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
"free world" my ass


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macron and Putin are in different leagues


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because the US is an outlier when it comes to free speech because it didn't have Nazis


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd prefer no nazis over thousands of them, thanks


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no it's because we took a firm anticommunist stance


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the Silver Legion had launched an American Holocaust I'm sure we would have laws like Germany


[05-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could get arrested for being a part of the CPUSA


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember the Patriot Act


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Freedom of speech is a quite recent concept


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PATRIOT Act is one of the worst laws ever passed


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wrong


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In its current iteration


[05-Dec-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
logical end conclusion and the patriot act is the work of corpratists


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
>violates at least three amendment rights and several constitutional articles


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
>"wrong"


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Back in 19th century USA, citizens would "argue" with politicians by beating them on their street, tarring and feathering them, and tearing down their houses. By no means was the old USA a paradise.


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
whatever you are smoking i want some


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and is a brazen violation of the first 5 amendments and wouldn't survive the supreme cout


[05-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
never said it was.


[05-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern SCOTUS it would


[05-Dec-18 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You said free speech, as we know it today, is an old concept


[05-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern SCOTUS would neuter itself to empower the executive office


[05-Dec-18 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When in fact, it was quite exclusive back then


[05-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
although there are days where maybe the whole tar and feather thing isn't such a bad idea


[05-Dec-18 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now we're talking


[05-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No incitement or fighting words


[05-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because of the paradigme they never took the logic to it's end conclusion


[05-Dec-18 02:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hell I'm more extreme than most free speech extrimists and I'm skeptical of even those limits


[05-Dec-18 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, read up on how Victoria Woodhull, suffragette and presidential candidate, was barred from running


[05-Dec-18 02:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also read up on how the suffergets were racist as fuck


[05-Dec-18 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, they were


[05-Dec-18 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some were


[05-Dec-18 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that's not the point of the argument


[05-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
achivement unlocked: being more sane than ideouluges at rockstar games


[05-Dec-18 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[05-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
in red dead 2 they go out of their way to downplay the bigotry


[05-Dec-18 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That doesn't mean they deny that the suffragettes had their problems


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Arthur doesn't give a shit


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do we?


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They did not have to present the suffragettes for literally all they were


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
uh, western criminals weren't really racist or bigots back in those days


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
j/s


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
it was people in government


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just like how incompetent all of the KKK is in the game


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I murder them all in cold blood


[05-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why not showcase it in the game whatever happened to the rockstar that pushed boundries


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
dude.....


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
did you not play GTA V?


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm sorry, what? I don't understand.


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
past rockstar not present rockstar aren't the same


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
he thinks rockstar is "going soft" or something


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
false


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on what you mean by "going soft"


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Edgy leftism is possible btw


[05-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
"catering to SJWs" probably


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
but like


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why do they potray an unrealistic world in terms of race relations of the age and honestly dogwhistle to sjw neomarxists


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
fucking, there was a torture scene in GTA V


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
edgy leftism is blasee


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Trevor was pretty racist, too


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You haven't talked to an anarchist before, have you


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm pretty sure


[05-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Nile#1441
Leftism is always edgy 😎


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they won't speak with me because I'm a dirty capitalist and deny their entire worldview


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, they will speak to you, they'll just refer to you as to what you are, an useful idiot


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
those darn leftists!!!


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are you asking for realism in a fun Rockstar game


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all stereotypes and that's the fun


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
rockstar games have never been realistic


[05-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
at all


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every character is an offensive stereotype and that makes it fun


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nile#1441
Why are people falling in love with anarcho ideologies lately


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
except they got the clan dead wrong.


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nile#1441
I don't get it


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
so?


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
who gives a fucking shit?


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because mass idiocy


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You don't get it because you haven't read even Bakunin


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Js


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the mafia's existence disproves anarchism


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how?


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only thing to get right about the Klan is how you can kill em


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What does the mafia have to do with anarchism?


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nile#1441
Hard for me to read about someone I don't even know.


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Harazu desperately hiding his fascism.


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That seriously makes no sense


[05-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because of how they sicililan mob eas born


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
a man flies a fucking cropduster into a cargoplane in GTA V


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
explain?


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"realism"


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it was born in a goverment vacume


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Sicilian mob was born within a capitalist superstructure


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
sicily's goverment collapsed for a time


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Serving a capitalist purpose, as in, land and property protection


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
modernist nonsense


[05-Dec-18 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alright, what's your argument against it, then?


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
If that's modernist nonsense, might as well do away with the enlightenment and liberalism.


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Go back to Aristotle.


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and what happened in the anarchy the supposedly good nature of man creating utopia no the mob restored order and became a criminal goverment


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, long term anarchissm is unsustainable as a concept. anarchism is mroe an in between between the end of a system and the start of antoher


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Nile#1441
Abandoning the Enlightenment sounds based


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism creates an ideological superstructure, that drives people towards doing things for a certain objective, that is, profit


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
but yeah expecting realism in rockstar games is like expecting Trump to write heart-wrenching and intelligent poetry


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The mafia is not an anarchist organization


[05-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a response to it


[05-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
communism isn't in human nature it's antithetical to it


[05-Dec-18 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism is much less natural or rational


[05-Dec-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
elements of communism can work just not the whole thing purely by itself


[05-Dec-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thew same goes for capitalism, and socialism


[05-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's the purest form of humanity which is also kinda bad, which is why goverment needs to restrain some of it.


[05-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, it's not ethical?


[05-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nonsequeter


[05-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Government and politics should restrain people's nature? Then why did the people even choose to form a government, a *social contract*, in the first place?


[05-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone goes horribly wrong in tryign to use these concepts alone purely by themselves


[05-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because of statement A


[05-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they canlt sustain themselves alone


[05-Dec-18 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What was statement A?


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
Government and politics should restrain people's nature


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and soviet communism failed because stalin was a paranoid nutbuurger who tisted it to his perosnal gain


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nile#1441
Restrain their freedoms too, tbh


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then why did the people create a government in the first place?


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
without a govement people will just murder and steal


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not true, tbh


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
to stop the murdering and theft


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Without a state, that is


[05-Dec-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There can be government without state


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there can't be a state without a goverment


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Zapatista Army's "state" in Chiapas is doing quite well for its people's survival


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it's an anarchist org


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how do you know that


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because i read up on it


[05-Dec-18 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unlike the Mexican govt, they actually care for the natives' welfare, for example


[05-Dec-18 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, people can't live luxuriously in a state like that, but they can live


[05-Dec-18 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chiapas's previous food problems have been pretty well remedied by the Zapatistas


[05-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'd prefer to be oppresed by my luxury


[05-Dec-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>He says, without a sense of self-awareness


[05-Dec-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There


[05-Dec-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks


[05-Dec-18 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You admitted to being a fash


[05-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
argument faild quick call nazi


[05-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
error


[05-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nile#1441
Welcome brother


[05-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
error


[05-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
let's see it's fucking cold out but I'm warm enough I have all the bread I can eat and all the porn I can masturbate too yeah capitalism is bad


[05-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nile#1441
Nevermind, not welcome


[05-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nile#1441
"all the porn I can masturbate to" Yikes


[05-Dec-18 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I don't care about other people or the environment or the planet i live in, i prefer all those shiny stuff and products and porn and neurodope"


[05-Dec-18 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anarchism has bread, too, btw


[05-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not an altruist


[05-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the only way anarchists can get their utopia is to kill me

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[05-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because I will fight them to the death


[05-Dec-18 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism isnt bad in and of it'self but we let the checks and balances fail and that's destroying us


[05-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
pretty much goose


[05-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) mmmmmhm


[05-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Nile#1441
I'll be happy to invade anarchist states


[05-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
the problem with anarchy is that humans naturally tend towards forming societies


[05-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how's slate city doing these days


[05-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
so even if you had an anarchy, eventually a group of people will come together to form a group and bam, no more anarchy


[05-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I cited the mafia to basicly make that point that happening IRL


[05-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Honahue#0656
that's not what anarchy is, the idea is to form a society without heirarchy


[05-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's what communism is


[05-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Honahue#0656
yes


[05-Dec-18 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anarchy has many forms


[05-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nile#1441
b-but muh hierarchy bad!!!!


[05-Dec-18 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bakunin (or Koprotkin? Can't remember) himself stated that creating a "third state" within society would suffice. As in, giving the people at least a say in how the institutions they participate in should be controlled.
That's one form of anarchism.


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anarchism is, ideologically, a mess, but that's inevitable


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that humans look for leadership though


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's called democracy


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it works better than everything else is


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes an anarchist democracy


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow depends on what sort of leadership, i think


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
democratic anarchy?


[05-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some humans and groups are committed to the ideal of direct democracy


[05-Dec-18 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As the existence of multiple anarchist organizations has shown


[05-Dec-18 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump is the perfect example of a leader for the people.


[05-Dec-18 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, i'll concede that these organizations are rare


[05-Dec-18 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that's why i'm, politically, a pessimist as of late


[05-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Nile#1441
To hell with democracy


[05-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
anarchy questions authority because there will inevitably be a little bit but the idea is to limit it to only legitimate authority. Jeff Bezos has an illegitimate amount of control over peoples lives for no good reason


[05-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
I always think it's funny when people try to argue that some part of the constitution (most commonly the first amendment) applies to private businesses


[05-Dec-18 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's interesting to debate how "anarchist authorities" like Subcomandante Marcos qualify as leadership


[05-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
we'd have a lot less problems if it did, but it doesn't


[05-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
since the concept of a giant corporation which has any meaningful power didn't exist back in the 1700's


[05-Dec-18 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*friendly reminder to read Marcos' "The Fourth World War has Begun" article*


[05-Dec-18 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did we skipworld war 3?


[05-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
back then, the closest concept would be guilds


[05-Dec-18 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this liek windows 10?


[05-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based Marcos doesn't want anyone to know who he is, so people don't form a cult of personality, but they go to adopt the concept of being Marcos.


[05-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there is a precedent for it public private spaces although regulation isn't my prefered solution I'd prefer old social media die due to incompetence


[05-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
regulate domain registrars and payment processors though


[05-Dec-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now american capitalism is run by a bunch of rich assfaces competing to see who can reahc new masses of cash before the other guywith no actuall end goal


[05-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
corpratism american capitialism is dead


[05-Dec-18 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) according to Marcos, WW3 was the Cold War


[05-Dec-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[05-Dec-18 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because the proxy wars of the Cold War happened all over the globe, and killed quite a few


[05-Dec-18 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In some sense, it was a "third war"


[05-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
still going on


[05-Dec-18 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guessthat's a valid arguement


[05-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hasn't stopped then


[05-Dec-18 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marcos then continues stating that we now live in a "Fourth World War", whereas the nuclear bomb has been mostly replaced by the "IMF financial bomb", which also has a destructive effect on the countries it affects, bringing misery upon the population by way of economic ruin


[05-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
the one between the US and the soviet union stopped


[05-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
there's other proxy wars going on though, like saudi arabia vs iran


[05-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
not nearly on the scale of the cold war though


[05-Dec-18 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The IMF is a pretty douche organization


[05-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's not under america's power despite what people think in a geostratigc sense I consider it a part of the EU


[05-Dec-18 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember Cochabamba, 2000. The privatization effort of the local water supply was incentivized by the IMF.


[05-Dec-18 02:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It has changed from fighting with their own guys to making it into cockfights. Throw money and guns to the one you want to win.


[05-Dec-18 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne when the ones you want to win become your enemies, throw money and guns to the other guys


[05-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
worked out great in afgahnistan


[05-Dec-18 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDZYZziCvtw

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Siuz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDZYZziCvtw
Chapo Trap House - Jason Unruhe should work at The Atlantic
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yDZYZziCvtw/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Arvid#8335
All unregulated capitalism would do is allow buinesses to be more corrupt and screw over their underpaid workers more, long story short.


[05-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Arvid#8335
Fuck libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism


[05-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Nile#1441
Libertarians are gay


[05-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
er, libertarianism isn't directly related to unregulated capitalism


[05-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
the libertarian party in the US is far-right libertarian


[05-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

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Libertarianism
Libertarianism (from Latin: libertas, meaning "freedom") is a collection of political philosophies and movements that uphold liberty as a core principle. Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association, and in...


[05-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
>Traditionally, libertarianism was a term for a form of left-wing politics; such left-libertarian ideologies seek to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty.


[05-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Arvid#8335
Okay, I should have specified that I meant the right wing "free market" version of libertrianism.


[05-Dec-18 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
"WE MUST RECLAIM LIBERTARIANISM FROM THE AMERICAN RIGHT" - Murray "Ecological communities now" Bookchin


[05-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Arvid#8335
I got nothing against Ancoms though I do have some disagreements with them.


[05-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Nile#1441
Ancom is gay


[05-Dec-18 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Being gay is gay and that's OK


[05-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Arvid#8335
I consider gay a positive thing


[05-Dec-18 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtEB5vgXoY

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Alienated TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtEB5vgXoY
Chapo Trap House - Eric Trump
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KUtEB5vgXoY/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
More CTH time


[05-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Nile#1441
It's gross


[05-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what about traps


[05-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
*opens up that can of worms*


[05-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

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Eric Geller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA
Admiral Ackbar - "It's A Trap!"
I thought this was something that YouTube needed: Admiral Ackbar's famous line "It's a trap!" from Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, in glorious HD (...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4F4qzPbcFiA/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Nile#1441
@Theadora Keshtah Gross too


[05-Dec-18 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
traps are gay


[05-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[05-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
arcturus is an sjw


[05-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's hard to tell at first glance but look at who he tags on twitter


[05-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm kinda inclined to belive his claim the real question is who he really is


[05-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ten bucks says that this twitter and account is a sock for someone else


[05-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Nile#1441
SJW? 🤔


[05-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Nile#1441
I dunno


[05-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah probably


[05-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Mikey#7286
"think of the children!!!!!!!"


[05-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://twitter.com/ArcturusXxxiii/status/1062900245128867841 look at who he tags the gurdian in particular stands out

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ArcturusXXXIII (@ArcturusXxxiii)
https://twitter.com/ArcturusXxxiii/status/1062900245128867841
How is this going to get fixed if no one will acknowledge there is a problem? @victimsupport @guardian @guardiannews @womensaid @womensaidorg @RefugeCharity @safelives_ @NSPCC
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsAsTiCU8AE17mZ.jpg:large
Twitter


[05-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm speculating though because this story is so fresh it's not even baked yet


[05-Dec-18 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
he didn't do it


[05-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nile#1441
Also nice "think of the children!!!!" sarcastically. Kids do use Tumblr


[05-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
the site is for people 13 and up


[05-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
"tumblr is for kids" my ass


[05-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
theorycrafting. the existence of this guy means tumblr was birgaded


[05-Dec-18 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
kids ought to be exposed to porn

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[05-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[05-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Nile#1441
🚔


[05-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Mikey#7286
i vote we ban religion instead of porn


[05-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
2 spicy 4 me


[05-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'll comprimise and say at least nude chicks are ok for kids


[05-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Nile#1441
Put cumbrains into jail.


[05-Dec-18 04:06 AM] RYDE#8862
I agree with Mikey


[05-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Mikey#7286
religion honestly does nothing for humanity these days


[05-Dec-18 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
reason being is that early exposure makes it less likely for them to have stigmatic problems with it


[05-Dec-18 04:06 AM] Mikey#7286
it's a hindrance


[05-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Nile#1441
K


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a miriacle I agree with byte on something


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Mikey#7286
ya


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm just being snarky


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Nile#1441
Degenerate


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
on an imageboard devoted mostly to porn


[05-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and memes


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
>Mostly


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
30% of the site is porn


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
Rather it be 0%


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
tough


[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1070001484543221762 lol

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https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1070001484543221762
How to determine if banning pornography would work in two simple steps. Ask these questions:

1. Are people able to possess photographic equipment?
2. Are people able to remove their clothing?

If the answer to both is "yes" then banning pornography is a fools' errand.
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[05-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
But I can’t expect horny needs to keep their urges under control


[05-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Nile#1441
Styx is a fool


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Mikey#7286
lol no he's not


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Mikey#7286
he's right


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is this shit https://twitter.com/SenatorNot/status/1070006860709810176

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not_senator_memes (@SenatorNot)
https://twitter.com/SenatorNot/status/1070006860709810176
@Styx666Official This is a low brow take Styx , you haven't considered that pornography is used to Anesthetise western males, and it's focus on miscegenation and degeneracy is entirely intentional, not to mention it's ease of access
Twitter


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
is it even human?


[05-Dec-18 04:11 AM] RYDE#8862
Styx is not a fool


[05-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nile#1441
@Crow Based


[05-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
crow meet legit alt right


[05-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nile#1441
Nah this is not an alt righter, they too are obsessed with porn


[05-Dec-18 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Alt righters wank to traps


[05-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lel


[05-Dec-18 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
You're objectively wrong :^)


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
traps are cool tho


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nile#1441
They’re the worst of the right wing


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
alt right filled with hypocrites


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
traps are gay


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
alt right faps to traps


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Nile#1441
Like the blue haired feminists to leftists


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
therefore


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
what if I'm a trap


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
alt right is gay


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
then you're gay


[05-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean I am gay


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Mikey#7286
so


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nile#1441
Trad right shits on the alt right often because of their love of anime and traps


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nile#1441
Rightfully so


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Mikey#7286
trad rights are gay, too


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
True colors.jpg


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nile#1441
You’re gay


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
You're gay


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Mikey#7286
and proud of it


[05-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
legit alt right is a walking contradiction


[05-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Nile#1441
Shouldn’t even pay the alt right attention but they’re everywhere now


[05-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Nile#1441
It’s cringe


[05-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I just watch them to laugh at their stupidity


[05-Dec-18 04:19 AM] Nile#1441
“The West is gay but man I love muh anime traps” - alt-retards


[05-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
fake westerners


[05-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
alt right is


[05-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
anime is the posterchild for why cultural appropriation is a positive force


[05-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it started as japanese cartonists stealing western cartoon ideas and then we stole it back with avatar


[05-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Mikey#7286
dropping one bomb caused Japan to become giant tech and video game heads


[05-Dec-18 04:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
2


[05-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Mikey#7286
two caused them to become degenerates


[05-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Mikey#7286
and create anime


[05-Dec-18 04:22 AM] Mikey#7286
one bomb should have been enough


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/570.gif

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[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/916/084/5c4.gif

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[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Nile#1441
Should've been three


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
first one is fake


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
i am aware lol


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
actually they're both fake


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
my computer did something weird


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
rawr


[05-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[05-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Mikey#7286
it's good we didn't drop three because then Nintendo wouldn't be around >:T


[05-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
"Exact moment each world leader realizes Trump mis-signed new NAFTA agreement"
https://i.imgur.com/ILRLeb8.mp4

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[05-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Nile#1441
Nintendo is cringe


[05-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[05-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
that gif is so hilarious


[05-Dec-18 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
there is so much pain in trudeau's eyes


[05-Dec-18 04:25 AM] Mikey#7286
nintendo made a plumber, an adventurer and a badass woman in power armor


[05-Dec-18 04:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Should have dropped 3.


[05-Dec-18 04:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
magic number


[05-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[05-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
I want mah Metroid >:c


[05-Dec-18 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel bad for anyone trying to get paperwork done with trump


[05-Dec-18 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given thye had to hire people to piece together documents he jsut randomely tears appart out of habit, it doesnt sound fun


[05-Dec-18 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/06/trump-loves-tearing-papers-staffers-tape-them-back-together.html?gtm=top&gtm=bottom

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Trump Won’t Stop Tearing Up Papers, So Staffers Tape Them Back T...
Government workers say they spent months reconstructing documents that the White House is legally required to preserve.
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/11/11-trump-paper.w600.h315.2x.jpg


[05-Dec-18 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the article is from june but he's likely still doign it


[05-Dec-18 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/150611/omarosa-manigault-newman-claims-trump-uses-mouth-paper-shredder

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Omarosa Manigault Newman claims Trump uses his mouth as a paper sh...
Manigault Newman, a longtime associate of the President Trump from his days hosting The Apprentice as well as a former White House advisor, has an explosive tell-all memoir coming out next week titled Unhinged: An Insider Account of the Trump White House. The Washington Post,...
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[05-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/L2QgVNH.mp4

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[05-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
dirty evil collectivism


[05-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
should've minded their own businesses /s


[05-Dec-18 04:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Got places to be.


[05-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/business/media/les-moonves-cbs-report.html

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By RACHEL ABRAMS and EDMUND LEE
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/business/media/les-moonves-cbs-report.html
Les Moonves Obstructed Investigation Into Misconduct Claims, Repor...
Leslie Moonves, the former CBS chief, destroyed evidence and misled investigators looking into his alleged misconduct, according to a draft of a report prepared for the company’s board.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/05/business/05moonves-print/05moonves-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
>The report, by lawyers hired by the network, says the company has justification to deny Mr. Moonves his $120 million severance.


[05-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
jesus fuckin christ


[05-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's a lotta money


[05-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
>denied


[05-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
NOW THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE


[05-Dec-18 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgxkPAGHAw

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgxkPAGHAw
Social Justice Has Become The Left's "Non-Theistic Religion"
Social Justice Has Become The Left's "Non-Theistic Religion." It has gotten to the point where Apple CEO Tim Cook actually said not banning people from their...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BTgxkPAGHAw/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyc-sets-17-an-hour-minimum-wage-for-uber-and-lyft-ride-hail-drivers/

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NYC sets $17 an hour minimum wage for Uber and Lyft drivers
It's the first U.S. city to set pay minimums for ride-hail drivers, months after temporarily halting new Uber licenses
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/12/04/05241702-f61e-4e59-87c4-b7f0c798bfd5/thumbnail/1200x630/9cd3a7c153a094ced4b669ee4477aa26/uber-gettyimages-1012183348.jpg


[05-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-makes-its-first-arrests-in-panama-papers-tax-evasion-case-charges-four-2018-12-04

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U.S. makes its first arrests in Panama Papers tax-evasion case, ch...
Manhattan federal prosecutors have arrested three people in a widespread tax evasion scheme in connection with the Mossack Fonseca & Co. firm — the first U.S. arrests tied to the infamous “Panama Papers.”
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[05-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-nato-give-russia-60-days-comply-nuclear-pact-n943761

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U.S., NATO give Russia 60 days to comply with nuclear pact
"We either bury our head in the sand, or we take common sense action in response to Russia’s flagrant disregard" of the INF treaty's terms, Pompeo said.
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[05-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWcorbinHolyFuck:


[05-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Gl hf


[05-Dec-18 10:49 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Is it just me


[05-Dec-18 10:50 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Or is the EU messing up most countries and people lately?


[05-Dec-18 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relating to what?


[05-Dec-18 11:01 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Well not just Articles 11 and 13 of Internet fame


[05-Dec-18 11:01 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
There's also the migrant crisis which is partially their fault for insisting on migrant quotas


[05-Dec-18 11:01 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Or at least something like it


[05-Dec-18 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta kinda


[05-Dec-18 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Articles 11 and 13 are stupid governing, business interests succeeding over common sense...and business sense


[05-Dec-18 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The migrant thing is more per-country, not the EU-wide gov't


[05-Dec-18 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly it's Merkel and Macron


[05-Dec-18 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Italy's populist assholes


[05-Dec-18 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, they make deals with the horrible gov'ts in Africa to keep the migrants from leaving


[05-Dec-18 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what centrism looks like


[05-Dec-18 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right wants to drown the migrants in the sea or send them bakk to what they're fleeing to die


[05-Dec-18 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left wants to accept them


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Also I heard someone argue that the very concept of EU was flawed, as it put more strain on the richer members who now have to put extra work to their citizens to compensate for the pooret members


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
He even said the whole EU is supported by Germany and France


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the solution that pleases everyone is to keep them from fleeing, and let them die and be raped, somewhat.


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
And their citizens


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes, that's the concept of a larger collective gov't.


[05-Dec-18 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that if everyone's near the same standard of living, the economy runs better


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
But Europe isn't


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that means the ones with alread high standards get to pay more to get the poorer ones up


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't what?


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Isn't the same overall in regards to living standards, I mean


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Look at Greece for example


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Then Germany


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't understanding my meaning


[05-Dec-18 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, trade is not a zero sum game


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not really, i'd say it's the other way around, as the richer EU countries suck off money from the more indebted countries


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more trade you do, the better things are overall for both parties.


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's part of why Germany doesn't want Greece to leave the EU


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the richer each of the two is, the better


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, if you want to maximize long-term economic value


[05-Dec-18 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
you make every country wealthy and trade with them all


[05-Dec-18 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way, resources are allocated most efficiently and everyone benefits and those benefits cascade between countries


[05-Dec-18 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the EU is to remove trade barriers and set up some common systems to do so with


[05-Dec-18 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't cost all that much, and the rewards are really large


[05-Dec-18 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even when you accept in a poorer country that you need to invest in for a little to really see the bigger rewards.


[05-Dec-18 11:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say it's a mixed bag, some EU countries didn't get better after they joined, while others, like Spain, prospered comparatively


[05-Dec-18 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU doesn't see a decline for accepting in a smaller country, as that country increases scale of the Euro, which increases stability


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I thought Spain is still in economic crisis?


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as anyone who's played a 4x may realize


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spain is actually doing fine right now btw


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really fine.


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
(despite some political BS)


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spain is still in some sort of fickle, but it's getting better


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you expand too fast, you can hurt your ability to pay for what you hav


[05-Dec-18 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just send ten settlers out in CiV


[05-Dec-18 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the same token, the EU can't accept in a new country every year


[05-Dec-18 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has stages of stuff to go thru before a country is let in


[05-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The country has to make certain changes to be compatible, like with the EU's basic concept of rights and with how being a worker actually works


[05-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This reduces the amount the EU has to spend to get a country up to speed, as the country itself will make the changes realizing it'll see massive benefit from EU membership down the line.


[05-Dec-18 11:12 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Although I should wonder that if Merkel is a major contributor to Germany's migrant crisis, why do people keep voting for her?


[05-Dec-18 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-58-the-neoliberal-optimism-industry

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[05-Dec-18 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Relevant


[05-Dec-18 11:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
She just won her most recent term didnt she?


[05-Dec-18 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because she's a centrist


[05-Dec-18 11:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because the Migrant Crisis doesn't affect all countries equally, and some people actually see benefit in having a migrant workforce


[05-Dec-18 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't want to abandon migrants, nor does she want to accept in tons and tons


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She went a little more on the accepting side and unfortunately it didn't pay off


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the amount of migrants was reduced anyways


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
so now her pandering to the far right isn't paying off


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
because instead of leaving AfD for her party


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
her party leaves for the Greens


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I still don't get why Poland and the Eastern European countries don't want to take in migrants, when these could be the solution to their economic underdevelopment


[05-Dec-18 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since the Greens are the only party that actually thinks morally instead of being full of hate and/or business corruption


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(On the condition that the wealth they produce is equally distributed)


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of the far right, Badger.


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right doesn't care about economic benefit in the end.


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like it


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll say it does when that's convenient.


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Haha lets take uneducated scum


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>uneducated


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it never really cares.


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
they sure bring loadsamoney


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of Syrians are educated, but


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, you know a lot of those migrants have diplomas, right?


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe doesn't recognize their credentials


[05-Dec-18 11:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yup


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
since Syria wasn't part of the EU-US agreement on academic credentials


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
plus im sure u can just pay for diploma without stydying


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Though I dunno if its true, there are migrants in Europe who reportedly are trying to change the culture of their asylum country, which is not something people accept lightly. Something like insisting on halal certificates for food or something when said country mostly consumes pork


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Things like that


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, even a basic uneducated worker THAT YOU DID NOT PAY TO RAISE is an economic benefit


[05-Dec-18 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children are an investment, adults are the return


[05-Dec-18 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your economy is full of 20something men, it will be very, very productive


[05-Dec-18 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
if your economy is full of babies and geriatrics, it will not


[05-Dec-18 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
no matter how well-educated they are


[05-Dec-18 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
they simply can't work


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What about my post above, @Nebbie ? The culture war thing?


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you see refugees coming in in the 16-25-year-old range, many male or with a family


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is a huge benefit.


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Is it real or just some sort of nationalist propaganda?


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"culture war" is the same stupid rhetoric of the right


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's technically nativist


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho that ties in with nationalist


[05-Dec-18 11:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The "culture war" issue is overplayed, IMO. Almost all migrants who stay and have kids integrate well into their asylum country's culture


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
An example being the Turco-Germans


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the bigger things with that is that in Syria


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
a girl will be married off at like 10


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
to a 20 year old guy


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now this is totally legal in the US btw


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's not in the EU


[05-Dec-18 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marriage ages actually tend to be higher than age of consent across the EU


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, telling someone their *marriage* that they've had for 6 fukking years is invalid because they've moved


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't go down well.


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention that Arab countries are actually inconsistent with their social policy... in Jordan, iirc, the minimum marriage age is 18


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jordan is not Syria


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jordan has a very different gov't and ideals.


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, but it's close to it


[05-Dec-18 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only geographically.


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current ruler of Jordan was an extra on Star Trek Voyager


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee, i heard


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he was that big of a fan


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assad would not do that


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are veeeeery different.


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so some European countries had to bend on marriages


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the right are FREAKED on that


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you nullify a marriage and forcibly separate spouses


[05-Dec-18 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
with no family for them to go to


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it tends to lead to suicides.


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"More dead brown people equals less danger, so LOGIC"


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, this is part of why I'm against very absolutist morals


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
moral relativism is garbage, sure


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The early age at which girls are expected to marry in some countries baffles me


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but once a marriage is established, I don't care how rapey it was in the beginning, you will cause more harm breaking it up probably.


[05-Dec-18 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't cause more harm.


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Like really, can't men hold their horny instincts in ffs?


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's not what it's because of.


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were men's horny instincts, it'd be young boys with older women


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marriages can be political and cultural as much as they can be out of love proper


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reasoning behind marrying girls early is that girls are the limiting resource for procreation.


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its about religion


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really about religion.


[05-Dec-18 11:23 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
islam sucks


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on what kind of islam


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not all muslim countries are the same


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Still, I'd rather not vote in favour of marrying off preadolescent young girls like you just mentioned


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Islam says a lot of shit about marriages, but IIRC, it doesn't say anything about marriage age.


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Especially if done without said girl's consent


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason you marry off the girl young is because she will be dead at 30


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
She needs to raise her child before then


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I fail to see how Morocco is similar to, say, Malaysia


[05-Dec-18 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, to like 16


[05-Dec-18 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So she needs to giv birth at 14


[05-Dec-18 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
so she needs to be pregnant at 13


[05-Dec-18 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
so she needs to marry at 12


[05-Dec-18 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
When conflicts and famines and droughts and whathavyou are common, waiting until 18 for marriage means children grow up without a parent half their lives and then die.


[05-Dec-18 11:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Wait, it's a conflict-driven thing?


[05-Dec-18 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just conflict, famines and droughts are still real issues in the middle east


[05-Dec-18 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a video I linked here last week


[05-Dec-18 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
of a family explaining why they sould their daughter of like 8 or so to some guy


[05-Dec-18 11:28 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
in Indonesia shit like child marriage still happens though. And this country is a lot more stable than the Middle East


[05-Dec-18 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
who apparently will hav to pay it off in monthly payments


[05-Dec-18 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, and eventually, Indonesia will raise the marriage age


[05-Dec-18 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Speaking societally, it isn't pressing, it doesn't greatly hurt to hav a low marriage age


[05-Dec-18 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
(keep in mind, California still technically has no minimum marriage age and it's a complete non-issue)


[05-Dec-18 11:29 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I have a bit of an issue with the obsession people here have with having children after marrying though


[05-Dec-18 11:29 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it's as if a marriage without children here is a failed marriage


[05-Dec-18 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
...do you understand why marriage exists in all human society?


[05-Dec-18 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I can tell you, love has nothing to do with it.


[05-Dec-18 11:31 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Perhaps not?


[05-Dec-18 11:31 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
There are many things I do not yet understand


[05-Dec-18 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the idea that people find some soulmate, get a ring, do a proposal in a football stadium on the big screen, happily choose to hav kids or adopt or do nothing, and then buy a nice fancy house...


[05-Dec-18 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a lie to children.


[05-Dec-18 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Santa Claus.


[05-Dec-18 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/eric-trump-funneled-cancer-charity-money-businesses-associates/story?id=47878610

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[05-Dec-18 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a story we tell to specify what we value, not what actually is the case, nor why these things exist.


[05-Dec-18 11:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marriage is psychologically nonsensical. If you love a person that much, let them just be your lover and that's it. No need to take an useless risk and propose yourself to a marriage union that might make a breakup hurt even more.


[05-Dec-18 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, religious types going MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOOOOMAAAN REEEEE are also having their heads up their asses


[05-Dec-18 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marriage accomplishes the following goals:
1 - Share resources in a duo for economic stability
2 - Unify two families to prevent inbreeding and bring political stability
3 - Use the above to produce a new generation that cements it all and will replace the current generation


[05-Dec-18 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to go from wakky singles being irresponsible to some kind of actual family that supports each other and has someone to replace them when they up and die


[05-Dec-18 11:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how do a piece of legal paper, a ceremony and two rings change that?


[05-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, about Human biology


[05-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
puberty happens at like 11 for girls and 12 for guys


[05-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
after that, sex can totally result in pregnancy


[05-Dec-18 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, 9 months to raise one child is a huge investment that only the female does


[05-Dec-18 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
one guy can impregnate pretty much as many girls as he wants


[05-Dec-18 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, if you need to defend the village from invaders, you send out the disposable guys and not the indisposable girls


[05-Dec-18 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but more to the point I'm making


[05-Dec-18 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you waste time with the girls after they're 11, then you develop problems if there are population stresses


[05-Dec-18 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, aging starts at conception


[05-Dec-18 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in like, DNA damage


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people hav kids at 40, the chances of those kids being autistic/retarded/down's/etc. is much higher


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's worse for women than men


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the modern day in the west, we can tolerate that


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
we hav really good medical science, hygiene, etc.


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
thruout most of history, hell no


[05-Dec-18 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
if most in the tribe waited to 30 to hav kids, the tribe died.


[05-Dec-18 11:40 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What about those who choose not to marry/have children? Are they just being selfish/irresponsible? Because, don't fault me, that is what I get from your description earlier


[05-Dec-18 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So from a brutal collectivist utilitarian standpoint, which most societies hav had thruout history, you get the girls married by 12.


[05-Dec-18 11:41 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
collectivism at its finest then?


[05-Dec-18 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are selfish if society has those population stresses, yes.


[05-Dec-18 11:41 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
My mind harkens to Japan


[05-Dec-18 11:41 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
where so few people have children they are suffering a population decline


[05-Dec-18 11:41 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and the general population is aging


[05-Dec-18 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, historically, nobody cared about women other than as these weird birthing machines you could befriend, basically


[05-Dec-18 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if you did care about them in terms of like owning land and such, then they stop just reproducing


[05-Dec-18 11:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
although I think if society doesn't have those population constraints... then it's entirely within their choice


[05-Dec-18 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
so even tho they're indisposable while men are disposable, they're more like resources you keep lokked up etc.


[05-Dec-18 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, because nobody cared about how the woman felt


[05-Dec-18 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
once marriage was done, there was no such thing as rape between you and her


[05-Dec-18 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
she was essentially your property


[05-Dec-18 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US took until the 80s to outlaw marital rape btw


[05-Dec-18 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The word "rape" itself actually meant "kidnap" until very recently


[05-Dec-18 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
with it being presumed you were kidnapping a woman to force yourself upon her


[05-Dec-18 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the kidnapping was the important crime.


[05-Dec-18 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, if a 40 year old was bending over that 12 year old and she was screaming, nobody cared.


[05-Dec-18 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore...stokkholm syndrome


[05-Dec-18 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, this has been going on since we hit about chimp level development


[05-Dec-18 11:45 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So what actually got them to outlaw things like marital rape (if it was ever outlawed in the first place)?


[05-Dec-18 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so there is a psychological response, especially in women, to see the good in their abuser/person who took them captive


[05-Dec-18 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feminism, I think...I mean, this whole deal is exactly what feminism hates.


[05-Dec-18 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and feminism had a big push in the late 70s)


[05-Dec-18 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the harsh reality is that in that case of the 40 year old and the 12 year old, after like a month or two


[05-Dec-18 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
she would actually start to *love* him.


[05-Dec-18 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everything would be pretty much happily ever after from there (until both died of a brutal accident or shitting themselves to death getting stabbed by invading soldiers or whatever other horrible shit would happen in ancient times at random)


[05-Dec-18 11:48 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so is marital rape getting outlawed a good thing or not, overall?


[05-Dec-18 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I missed an or in there, but I think it's funnier that way, that they both got cholera AND were stabbed by some knights.


[05-Dec-18 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good thing.


[05-Dec-18 11:49 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
this whole explanation has left me feeling rather horrified lel


[05-Dec-18 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[05-Dec-18 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
History is incredibly horrifying from a modern perspective.


[05-Dec-18 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, to recap


[05-Dec-18 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, forgot one vital point


[05-Dec-18 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
so, as to why age of consent and marriage age now exist


[05-Dec-18 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well for a start, we care about women in the first place


[05-Dec-18 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
if someone grabs an unmarried orphan 12-year-old and drags her into his cabin, we do not ignore her screams.


[05-Dec-18 11:50 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
No we don't


[05-Dec-18 11:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hell


[05-Dec-18 11:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
even prisoners *hate* rapists


[05-Dec-18 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
For historical context, Pocahontas and Sacagewea were around 12 when they were "married"


[05-Dec-18 11:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and outside of political prisoners they are some of society's trouble childs


[05-Dec-18 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the case of Sacagewea, she was a captive taken by another tribe, which then either sold her as a sex slave to a French fur trapper, or in another variant of the tale, put her as gambling collateral and lost at the native of equivalent of Poker


[05-Dec-18 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was 15 with Lewis & Clark taking her and her husband in, and had a baby at like 17...then died at 19


[05-Dec-18 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, we don't look kindly on that cause that's like 1 or 2 years of Sacagewea suffering.


[05-Dec-18 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also, individualism means we won't accept that suffering for its societal good (she wouldn't've had a baby in time without getting married so young)


[05-Dec-18 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least to a point.


[05-Dec-18 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to recap


[05-Dec-18 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cultural values in the end serve societal needs


[05-Dec-18 11:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and marriage age is a big point of contention because western society with no population stresses and feminism and all that isn't a big fan of raping kids, even if it helps make sure the next generation gets born


[05-Dec-18 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Afghanistan, good lukk telling them that as they will assuredly die at 25


[05-Dec-18 11:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Eastern Society doesn't seem to mind that for some reason


[05-Dec-18 11:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
or maybe I'm just really sheltered


[05-Dec-18 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asia has until recently been much poorer than the west


[05-Dec-18 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are very recent developments in the world.


[05-Dec-18 11:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
some of the most populous countries in the world are Asian though, if what you mean by population stresses is things like overpopulation


[05-Dec-18 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as for the morality of Syrian migrants with child marriages


[05-Dec-18 11:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
3 of the 5 most populous countries in the world are Asian


[05-Dec-18 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's bad they forced little girls to bend over for adult men whether they wanted to or not, but what's done is done and separating doesn't help anyone...just make sure that the immigrants don't try to do new child marriages.


[05-Dec-18 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and having that compromise will enable making sure they don't go underground to do new child marriages.


[05-Dec-18 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immigrants are willing to change some things, just not *everything*.


[05-Dec-18 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also, don't get hung up on cultural differences.


[05-Dec-18 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, people adapt their culture, even if mainly across generations.


[05-Dec-18 12:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so those that already happened, we can do nothing about them


[05-Dec-18 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And immigrants are not rallying to change European culture, they mainly just want to retain much of their own as little islands among the European populace. Keep them mostly following the laws and they won't cause trouble.


[05-Dec-18 12:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the main thing now is stopping them from doing it again?


[05-Dec-18 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and maybe when they return to Syria, they'll take some of this feminism and individualism to heart.


[05-Dec-18 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if they no longer hav to worry about whether their daughter will liv long enuff to hav kids and pass on the family genes.


[05-Dec-18 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, that's how you win the actual culture war


[05-Dec-18 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
you assimilate immigrants, then repatriate them with your cultural beliefs.


[05-Dec-18 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just...realize that nobody plans to annihilate the other's culture here.


[05-Dec-18 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Other than the more extreme of the far right.


[05-Dec-18 12:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, this is I guess the case to be made for "tolerance" or even "anti-nationalism", @PzZ1-TD1; human nature is broadly the same and the specifics of culture hav actual reasons and if we can understand them and work together, it'll save a lot of people a lot of hassle.


[05-Dec-18 12:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and something implied here:


[05-Dec-18 12:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
We really should be fixing the Middle East


[05-Dec-18 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
droughts and famines and floods and wars that make people sell their children as sex slaves and liv in squalor and then become brutal and execute those who lived in the wrong place...it's just not okay


[05-Dec-18 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's not gonna get better just because we closed some borders to ensure more people die.


[05-Dec-18 12:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like seriously, in Iraq, in places freed from ISIS, they will execute mothers from families that moved to the area under suspicion of them supporting iSIS


[05-Dec-18 12:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
2 minute trials


[05-Dec-18 12:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/middleeast/iraq-isis-trials.html

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A 10-Minute Trial, a Death Sentence: Iraqi Justice for ISIS Suspects
Iraq is ramping up prosecutions of thousands of people accused of supporting the Islamic State, handing death sentences to workers, wives and fighters.
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[05-Dec-18 12:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, 10 minute trial, 2 minutes to defend herself


[05-Dec-18 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
RIP her


[05-Dec-18 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't what victory is supposed to look like.


[05-Dec-18 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The summary executions are supposed to end when you free the people.


[05-Dec-18 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's the Middle East...


[05-Dec-18 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
We broke it and we don't want to fix it.


[05-Dec-18 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
We just want to keep out all the people running away from its brokenness.


[05-Dec-18 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's shitty IMO, @PzZ1-TD1


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Middle East is shitty right now


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and the Western world has a part to play in all of it


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
A huge part...


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
hell, here, they accuse the West of only going there for the "black gold" underneath the sands


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Terrorism doesn't generally thrive in places like the west


[05-Dec-18 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
it thrives in places where people don't care about individual life


[05-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and where times are hard and you might latch onto anything to get some money or to believe you're doing good


[05-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our relentless bombing of the Middle East creates terrorists as it kills them


[05-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keeps their infrastructure shitty, keeps them fearful, more and more terrorists sign up


[05-Dec-18 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
to oppose the evil that is bombing them.


[05-Dec-18 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, tbh, yes


[05-Dec-18 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
if there wasn't oil, we wouldn't care at all.


[05-Dec-18 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole mess is because the west acts selfishly and immorally


[05-Dec-18 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the current mess


[05-Dec-18 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
there'd be a mess anyways if we hadn't done anything, but it probably would be a lot cleaner


[05-Dec-18 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
as-is, we've destabilized the region a lot.


[05-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when there's no stable gov't


[05-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
how the hell can you prevent famines and floods and droughts?


[05-Dec-18 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And wars.


[05-Dec-18 12:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term, somebody needs to start stepping up and prevent migration crises from starting by going into the nations that are destabilizing and actually helping them get their acts together. Probably, tho, that'll only really happen when the EU has expanded to the point it's bordering Syria.


[05-Dec-18 12:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
In short, the world's kinda crap, even tho it's generally better than it's ever been, @PzZ1-TD1


[05-Dec-18 12:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is kind of hilarious in a morbid way when you realize that the crisis was effectively created by the west. I'm not saying it was wrong to support overthrowing evil dictators, just that we didn't hav in place the systems to settle refugees sanely in nearby areas, we left a big stinking pot of terrorism right the fukk there, we wanted so much to stifle things at our borders that it pretty much broke them, and we had no plans to deal with Assad ourselves.


[05-Dec-18 12:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
good intention but bad implementation?


[05-Dec-18 12:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
One good intention among a history of bad ones culminating in "oh, we actually completely set up the dominos for a disaster"


[05-Dec-18 12:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
thankfully, it didn't go all that badly in the end


[05-Dec-18 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I truly mean that, while there's slavery going on in Libya and a lot of democracies now are seeing a rise in the far right and certain countries like Jordan and Lebanon are  totally boned and such, it could've gone a lot worse than it did.


[05-Dec-18 12:26 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
you mean it could've been WWIII?


[05-Dec-18 12:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, more like, Italy decides to take over Nothern Africa as colonies to prevent migration


[05-Dec-18 12:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
that could've happened.


[05-Dec-18 12:27 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
a return to colonialism kek


[05-Dec-18 12:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
As-is, we only hav Italy going "migrants are unclean, you should burn anything they touch, therefore, Doctors Without Borders violated hygiene standards by not putting Syrians and Libyans in ovens"


[05-Dec-18 12:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, yeah they're saying "stop saving people from drowning/disease/etc. or we will take away your ship and imprison you", but they could be saying "we're gonna go around with machine guns to finish up what the Mediterranean can't handle on its own"


[05-Dec-18 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Dec-18 12:42 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
who is this "imbecile"?


[05-Dec-18 12:42 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
one of Trump's staff?


[05-Dec-18 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[05-Dec-18 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he made a typo that created a link and someone bought the domain name


[05-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so, local interesting issue


[05-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, my metro area is one of the most stratified by race/class in the country


[05-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the wealth is super far out west, away from the city


[05-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Problem


[05-Dec-18 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one can get anyone to fucking work for restaurants/low paying jobs out west, so people from the city have to fill the gaps and be on shitty public transport for 5+ hours a day


[05-Dec-18 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that one of the chief arguments for not merging the two places is "The city will just be a drain on us"


[05-Dec-18 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a lovely situation where you can combine contempt for young people _and_ contempt for minorities


[05-Dec-18 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, remember that minorities hav more kids and use less birth control


[05-Dec-18 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
so young people are less white


[05-Dec-18 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
plus any mixings are counted as non-white


[05-Dec-18 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It passed https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/05/wisconsin-senate-bill-governor-1045366

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Wisconsin Republicans weaken incoming Dem governor, AG
Wisconsin Republicans passed sweeping legislation Wednesday that shifts power to the Republican-controlled Legislature and weakens the Democrat replacing Gov. Scott Walker.
https://static.politico.com/68/7d/392d307d49b288b29670e369023d/181205-tony-evers-ap-773.jpg


[05-Dec-18 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's white kids with affluenza that don't need to work


[05-Dec-18 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretzel shop owner complained of kid pulling up in a Maserati


[05-Dec-18 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
ROFL


[05-Dec-18 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
I just heard some conservative talk show dude say that macron is socialist


[05-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
and the yellow jacket protesters are pushing back against socialism


[05-Dec-18 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Dec-18 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
his name is ken matthews


[05-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
rofl https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1070118915139923968

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Twitter allowed someone to invade my text with a disgusting anti-President message. The same thing-period no space-occurred later and it didn’t happen. Don’t tell me they are not committed cardcarrying anti-Trumpers. Time Magazine also may fit that description. FAIRNES...
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[05-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
his response is so hilariously retarded


[05-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
and ignorant


[05-Dec-18 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[05-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to find an audio clip of that ken matthews guy saying that the yellow jacket protesters are pushing back against macron and his socialist ways


[05-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
and listening to this guy makes me want to hurl


[05-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
he just keeps repeating the "every person is unequal, and unequal people get unequal things" talking point


[05-Dec-18 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
apparently some fake news has been making the circles claiming that yellow jacket protesters are chanting "we want trump"


[05-Dec-18 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
but it's based on a video released 2 days ago from a protest that took place a year ago in england


[05-Dec-18 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ByboTM8MQ

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France - Yellow Jacket protests - People chant "We Want Trump"
Macron lectured the world on "nationalism". France has a broken tax system, immigration system, and a oppressive bureaucracy. President Trump warned about th...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m-ByboTM8MQ/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Dec-18 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
you can obviously see the police jackets are in english too


[05-Dec-18 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[05-Dec-18 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What scares me is how people will be able to "photoshop" footage and audio in the future though


[05-Dec-18 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656
*Qui want Trump


[05-Dec-18 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656

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[05-Dec-18 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
trump also retweeted the fake news as well https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1069811169010089984

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There are riots in socialist France because of radical leftist fuel taxes

Media barely mentioning this

America is booming, Europe is burning 

They want to cover up the middle class rebellion against cultural Marxism

“We want Trump” being chanted through the streets...
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[05-Dec-18 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@DevField uh, about the argument you brought up in general


[05-Dec-18 10:26 PM] DevField#5162
Hm?


[05-Dec-18 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
and there's a bunch of outright wrong information claiming that macron is marxist and socialist (he's neoliberal, just like the US)


[05-Dec-18 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
While Christianity does have its motivation if "protection of women", we must not forget Nebbie's argument from some hours ago


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] Arvid#8335
"Socialist ways" it was actually more so the oppisite, people are pissed at Macron because he went more neoliberal/classical liberal.


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Christianity is, above all, a method of social control, just like marriage


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] DevField#5162
Oh, I didn't see it. What was it?


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, the protesters are the socialists


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] DevField#5162
Oh trust me, I know. I'm not advocating for christianity.


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, you said "Christianity doesn't seem to flame for that"


[05-Dec-18 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless i'm interpreting you wrong


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] Arvid#8335
Good, you've avoided envoking the wrath of the *B L A C K  M E T A L  G A N G*


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] DevField#5162
Like, that's one natural instinct that christianity doesn't denounce


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] Nile#1441
Social control is not a bad thing.


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure, but besides "protection", there's an expectation that women will give something in return


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is, babies


[05-Dec-18 10:28 PM] DevField#5162
Is there really?


[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] DevField#5162
Then why do men jump in front of moving cars and guns and knives etc. for said women?


[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember, Christianity was cooked up in a workd where people died young, famine and illness was common, and societies had to reproduce to survive


[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] DevField#5162
They ain't getting any babies


[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's technically a non sequitur, as the man is still preserving the woman as a resource of society


[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wcvb.com/article/church-sends-political-message-in-nativity-scene/25403183

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Church sends political message in Nativity scene
The parish depicted immigration issues in the U.S.
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[05-Dec-18 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even if the guy dies, there will be another one available to impregnate that woman


[05-Dec-18 10:30 PM] Honahue#0656
Other social animals do similar things, it's not unique to humanity


[05-Dec-18 10:30 PM] DevField#5162
I am taking up issue with the fact that the male is disposable.


[05-Dec-18 10:30 PM] DevField#5162
The male is always disposable


[05-Dec-18 10:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That doesn't mean women don't have it hard, because they're overvalued and expected to follow what society tells of them


[05-Dec-18 10:31 PM] DevField#5162
I am in no way stating that women do not suffer. I am simply stating that issues suffered by males are often ignored


[05-Dec-18 10:31 PM] DevField#5162
Which I feel is an inequality


[05-Dec-18 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They are, to an extent, i'll admit


[05-Dec-18 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The main issue comes to relevance because men's rights activists very often don't seek out dialogue with feminists


[05-Dec-18 10:33 PM] DevField#5162
I have seen multiple times that male issues are brought up, only to be ignored. I feel like it's more that they don't care, rather than these men simply not opening up a dialogue.


[05-Dec-18 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Granted, there are still hardheaded feminists, but i can genuinely say that these are marginal in number


[05-Dec-18 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The consensus among feminist academia and politiques is that the patriarchy also affects men negatively, btw


[05-Dec-18 10:35 PM] DevField#5162
Of course it does


[05-Dec-18 10:35 PM] DevField#5162
99.9% of these males are not "in power". They're just seen as disposable utilities that the "elite" could give less of a shit about


[05-Dec-18 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, truth is, the elite is also overwhelmingly male


[05-Dec-18 10:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They impose their standards on all of society, expecting everyone to fit into them


[05-Dec-18 10:38 PM] DevField#5162
True, I believe my problems would be with these people. I am 100% willing to admit that the condemners of males are in fact; other males. rather than females, as some would believe.


[05-Dec-18 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why i, conclusively, think we should at least try to do away with this binary system, to be honest.


[05-Dec-18 10:39 PM] DevField#5162
Oh definitely


[05-Dec-18 10:39 PM] DevField#5162
Males and females aren't meant to pair bond


[05-Dec-18 10:39 PM] DevField#5162
it doesn't work well


[05-Dec-18 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Macron is third way classical liberal/neoliberal


[05-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[05-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
he is like "well, deregulation might work if we add a dash of socialism and a heaping helping of tax cuts"


[05-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically every possible way to make the country waste money, put together.


[05-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
I heard a conservative talk show guy named "ken matthews" who was apparently filling in for rush limbaugh say that the protests were pushback against macron's "socialist policies"


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
No taxation, continue social programs, work workers to death, and uh...tax fuel so workers can't get to their jobs because you can't get money anywhere else.


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Macron initially seemed kinda down with socialism


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's weird how inconsistent these guys' description of the elites is


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but he has repeatedly attakked it.


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not weird, the right doesn't care about consistency


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, confusion like this helps them


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure thing


[05-Dec-18 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
remember, they want things to not change


[05-Dec-18 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only change they want is for the people to prevent the intrusion of actual good change.


[05-Dec-18 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/9HS0PYV

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https://imgur.com/gallery/9HS0PYV
I'm french, and I need to clarify something.
https://i.imgur.com/ks6Y90mh.jpg


[05-Dec-18 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
huh, someone even made a post on imgur about it


[05-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
This is 100% FALSE and BS. NONE of us is chanting "We want Trump". This is disinformation at its best. I won't waste more of my and your time, I just wanted to make sure you know the truth about this tweet. If you want to know what is going on, do some research, forge your opinion, but please don't read summaries on political oriented tweet accounts.


[05-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
"radical leftist fuel taxes"


[05-Dec-18 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
just...wow


[05-Dec-18 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
this is what conservatives say that global warming is


[05-Dec-18 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
making the middle class pay for it


[05-Dec-18 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
and then claim that trying to make companies pay for it would just pass the cost to the consumer


[05-Dec-18 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
which should be illegal


[05-Dec-18 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
and I think actually is illegal in some places


[05-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, just me being an ignorant American


[05-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I look at this and think "Wow, imagine how much fucking worse it would have been had Le Pen won."


[05-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/VG5OUIQ

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https://imgur.com/gallery/VG5OUIQ
George Bush sneaks Michelle Obama a piece of candy at his father's funeral.
https://i.imgur.com/VG5OUIQh.jpg


[05-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
"George Bush sneaks Michelle Obama a piece of candy at his father's funeral."


[05-Dec-18 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.sky.com/story/australia-to-pass-sweeping-anti-encryption-laws-11571380

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https://news.sky.com/story/australia-to-pass-sweeping-anti-encryption-laws-11571380
Australia to pass sweeping anti-encryption laws
Although the government claims it is not seeking to force tech companies to create back doors, the industry has been sceptical.
https://e3.365dm.com/18/12/1600x900/skynews-australia-cyber-war_4508417.jpg?20181204104532


[06-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/B7K2o8P.jpg

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https://imgur.com/B7K2o8P
https://i.imgur.com/B7K2o8P.jpg


[06-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
Bill has been delayed.


[06-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Tecuane#0001
ALP realised we will fucking eviscerate them at the next election if they pass this, and they have the seats to straight-up deny it.


[06-Dec-18 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Good


[06-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Tecuane#0001
Until yesterday's sitting it was near-guaranteed that ALP will end up with government at the next federal, because LNP are a shitfire.


[06-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Tecuane#0001
Then they indicated they would approve the bill with some amendments and the entirety of AUIT went spare.


[06-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
AUIT?


[06-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Tecuane#0001
Australian information technology


[06-Dec-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
australian liberal party?


[06-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
labor party


[06-Dec-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[06-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
ALP is labour


[06-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
LNP is liberal


[06-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
classical liberal, not the "left vs right liberal vs conservative"


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
no


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
shithouse liberal


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
LNP in australia are essentially economically liberal but socially hyperconservative


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
lol wtf


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
that's completely unheard of in the US


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
yeah you just have total cunts


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
ALP are "the good guys" but they're still a major party, and generally aren't all too much better


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
they have some good ideas


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
the NBN was their idea


[06-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
but it got scuttled by LNP


[06-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
is australia still doing the "free" solar panels for everyone?


[06-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Tecuane#0001
heavily subsidised


[06-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Tecuane#0001
yes


[06-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Tecuane#0001
you pay like 20% or someting


[06-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
For LNP, what kind of "economically liberal"? Just heavily pro-reform in general, or is there a big broad end-goal for them economically?


[06-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont have the time or patience to engage in semantics at your level


[06-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
so just take my word for it


[06-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
but essentially they like spending, grants, tax cuts


[06-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
shit like that


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
unfortunately most of the tax cuts are to the wrong end of the spectrum


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I that's what Crow meant by "classical liberal"


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
business, specifically


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
see this is what i meant when i said i dont care about semantic arguments with you :^)


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance>
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Progressive_Alliance_membership.png

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Progressive_Alliance_membership.png


[06-Dec-18 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Crow on the solar panel topic


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you really mean is you don't like me especially when I'm asking questions because of ambiguity.


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
im putting two tesla walls in my new house


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Nebbie i've known you for like 2.5 years and literally not one fucking time has anything ever been "unambiguous enough" for you


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
its like arguing with a self-learning turing test machine


[06-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Tecuane#0001
its a massive waste of time for anyone involved in the discussion and anyone reading it


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
its why i simply dodged talking to you


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
A simple "they're against taxing businesses" was all I was looking for


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
no


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
you never are


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
its always a rabbit warren


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
not just a hole


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
a warren


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
the entire fucking burrow


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
27 kWh seems a little much lol, I guess it'll be good for a few rainy days though


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Crow yea


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
i was gonna just get one


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
then i realised they arent all that expensive for what they are


[06-Dec-18 01:07 AM] Tecuane#0001
so i am getting two


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, LNP is pretty comparable to certain factions of US Republicans by the sound of things, Crow.


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't tax the businesses, but crush the gays.


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea some of them even oppose public healthcare


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
so thats like 50% of the way to your democrats


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
15% of the way to your republicans


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
that would be political suicide in australia though


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
yes


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
considering it's literally the best in the world


[06-Dec-18 01:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
still waiting on them to fix the welfare scheme though


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fixing things takes effort, I wouldn't hold my breath.


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
i just would like less of my money going to freeloaders


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
who could get a job but dont


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
so many liars on that system


[06-Dec-18 01:09 AM] Tecuane#0001
its not staffed well enough to check up on people


[06-Dec-18 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crypto is a much shinier beast to shoot at because if you hit, you can start really digging into 1984 level surveillance, bit by bit.


[06-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like you could round up people who torrent movies, fine them massively, get a bunch of money from the movie industry, then hav spare time to go after people who watch Netflix with a VPN and even catch someone BUYING DRUGS


[06-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
piracy is legal in australia


[06-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
downloading is legal


[06-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Media frenzy, opportunity to cast out people as bad, might get a few votes.


[06-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
sharing is illegal


[06-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
usenet is literally the tip top for australians


[06-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, well that puts a damper on it, gotta really hit the uploaders hard then for the industry to care


[06-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
honestly we mostly dont care about it


[06-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Tecuane#0001
cant relate as i pay for all my media


[06-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
well, except my tv, because i cant be bothered working out which service has the show i want


[06-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
i just pay for baconfeet


[06-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Tecuane#0001
for that


[06-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that at&t is actually cutting people off for "piracy"


[06-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://torrentfreak.com/att-to-terminate-first-customers-over-piracy-accusations-181106/

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Ernesto
https://torrentfreak.com/att-to-terminate-first-customers-over-piracy-accusations-181106/
AT&T to Terminate First Customers Over Piracy Accusations - Torren...
Internet provider AT&T plans to terminate the accounts of over a dozen subscribers who were repeatedly flagged for copyright infringements. This is reportedly the first time the company has taken this measure, which is based on copyright holder complaints.
https://torrentfreak.com/images/computerkeyboardfeat.png


[06-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
lol


[06-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
our isps ignore those


[06-Dec-18 01:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
So the whole dole bludger thing is basically a myth propagated by Murdoch Media and welfare isn't really that much of the government budget, if we were investing in renewables, taxed the rich properly, the government would have far less debt and there'd be plenty of jobs in renewables on top of that, but instead we worship coal, oil and blame the poor for all of our problems.


[06-Dec-18 01:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
The reality is, people don't just do drugs because they're 'dumb', it's generally escape from a suffering or another


[06-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Tecuane#0001
wow you have had one shitload of bad opinion juice


[06-Dec-18 01:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Family with conservative views on antidepressants for example becoming intergenerational, pretending depression isn't a problem while treating it via self medication with drugs


[06-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Tecuane#0001
please dont talk again


[06-Dec-18 01:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
people don't do heroin because it feels good, they do it to escape suffering, to not feel pain


[06-Dec-18 01:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
which is why people with better income and social support tend to abuse drugs far less


[06-Dec-18 01:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
the drug problem is economic


[06-Dec-18 01:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
to ignore that is ignoring science


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Tecuane#0001
>anime avatar


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
keep people in poverty, and they'll have all of the worries and anxieties of poverty


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, typically rich people are doing all sorts of hard drugs, it's just you don't hear or see about it because they have the resources to hide it


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's actually a communist catgirl by a western artist lmao


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Tecuane#0001
sounds like basically anime


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] DevField#5162
I agree with you @dissociativity


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, you aren't really telling anyone anything new talking about how we should maybe treat drug addicts better


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Tecuane#0001
if you have to specify the distinction


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Tecuane#0001
its anime


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Tecuane#0001
sorry


[06-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the pinned message in this channel.


[06-Dec-18 01:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
the war on drugs is both an economic and racist war


[06-Dec-18 01:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
it helps noone


[06-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much everybody under 40 now knows the war on drugs is really a war on drug *users*, where drugs and the law are both weapons.


[06-Dec-18 01:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
decriminalisation works to ending drug use, stigma, it seems is only yet another anxiety one will medicate away with drugs


[06-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Tecuane#0001
idc about drugs


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
just stop using 40% of my salary


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
to buy a new car


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
because you're lying about living with your parents


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
you rat


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
the people that actually do that are few and far between


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
not true


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
most people on centrelink barely scrape by in a run down share house with 4-5 other people


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
imagine if they could afford more because we didnt have all the shitrats abusing it


[06-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Tecuane#0001
more staff on centrelink to investigate this shit


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
then increase amounts given


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
just because you see a bogan crackie occasionally doesn't mean that it's a big problem


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47761901_Need_greed_or_opportunity_An_examination_of_who_commits_benefit_fraud_and_why_they_do_it

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PDF | The following research article reviews the profile and motives of benefit fraudsters. Using content analysis of existing research and thematic analysis of benefit fraud interview transcripts, this article offers a better understanding of who the offenders are and their...
https://i1.rgstatic.net/publication/47761901_Need_greed_or_opportunity_An_examination_of_who_commits_benefit_fraud_and_why_they_do_it/links/56af9a7208ae9ea7c3ad82fb/largepreview.png


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
not gonna happen, centrelink workers are losing their jobs to privatization


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
nearly half my fucken salary goes out to taxes i can complain about what i like


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
wait, is it that people living with their parents are buying new cars with their welfare, or people living with their parents lie about living on their own and then use the welfare to buy new cars?


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
thanks government


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Crow the latter


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
consider, one does not buy a car unless they wish to use it to go to places


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
many jobs require a car


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
or people outright live in their car


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
you dont need


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
a 2018 toyota 86


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
only the rich own cars to flex on people


[06-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Tecuane#0001
for /either/ of those


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
that seems like something that's relatively easy to track tbh lol


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
are you being deliberately obtuse and just spitting on the suffering of poor people since you met 1 dude that's bad?


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
its understaffed as fuck


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
not even by going door to door


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
theres way too few people who work for this org tho crow


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
like


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
since someone would have to pay the taxes on the car


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
prob get their parents to pay


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Tecuane#0001
2bh


[06-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
nice strawman


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
about that link I just posted.


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
your entire argument is a strawman


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
poor people bad


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
you are terrible at discussions


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
you really should talk less


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
i.e., never


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
not just here but like, in general


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Tecuane#0001
i feel physically sorry for those that are forced to engage you on a daily basis if this is what you're like


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
there are no facts to back up that 'dole bludging' on centrelink is a huge problem


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
wow, attacking my character


[06-Dec-18 01:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
classy debating skills


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
no debate


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
just commenting on it offhand


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
completely irrelevant to the 'debate'


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
did you learn that from Carlgon of Akkhad?


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
just thought you should know


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
alright coraline ehmke


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
average poor people are suffering from this experience, being on centrelink is suffering, it's not a positive, happy experience


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
i didnt realise australians with this level of autism could even survive


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
it isn't enough for most people to live comfortably


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
i thought you got eaten by like


[06-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Tecuane#0001
koalas and shit


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea so


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
upstaff it


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
find the rorters


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
increase overall amount given


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
which was what i said originally


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
you total retard


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
the government is currently offsourcing the jobs to an american contractor, firing local australian workers


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
so it's not going to happen


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
nice pivot


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont give a shit what is currently happening


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
i was saying this is what should happen


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Mikey#7286
woah, two aussies going at it


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
so what is the point in your argument?


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
im not australian


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[06-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
if this guy is the bar


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
for australians


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you can't explain how x thing can be solved


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
i am definitely not australian


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Mikey#7286
i thought you were


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
i live here


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
instead of just being an ideas guy


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
i wasnt born here


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're never going to solve the issue


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
it honestly sounds like you dont work enough to even be allowed to talk to me


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
you must work at least 4 days a week


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
to ride


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
sorry


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
doing a big boi reach at those staws


[06-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
'For the majority of cases,  ‘ need ’  appears to be the principle motivating factor, with impoverished benefi t claimants, experiencing long-term welfare dependency, frequently perceiving fraud to be their only option.'


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
discussing things with people who dont work fulltime is literally time wasted


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
since they have such a childlike view of the world


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tl;dr is


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
if people didn't need to be fraudulent, there wouldn't be fraud


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
welfare fraud is primarily done by people who are welfare-dependent


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
i mean


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
if someone doesn't do fraud, they're often on $396AUD a fortnight at best


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
that is not liveable


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats just


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
simply untrue


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
telling small lies in the details to prevent disruption of the welfare they depend on


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Tecuane#0001
people commit fraud all the time


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
the standard rate, if someone does commit fraud


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Provide evidence for how often fraud is commited.


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how much it is total.


[06-Dec-18 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
is a little over 500, only a bit over 100 more


[06-Dec-18 01:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
a fortnight, so very little extra in taxes.


[06-Dec-18 01:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
especially considering people get the standard rate in their 20s eventually anyway


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Nebbie weirdly i dont actually care about people doing it if they need it


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
its people doing it who dont need it


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
that i have a problem with


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
have you been unemployed past the 2008 recession? the government handouts helped the economy as a band-aid fix, but it's still very hard to get employed with the offsource of workers to the third world be capitalists for profit


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
e.g., something i overheard recently


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
why pay someone minimum wage when you can pay them $2 an hour?


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The study I linked came to the conclusion need is the primary motivator


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
"why would i get a job when i can just use centrelink and get the same amount for nothing?"


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
with greed secondary and opportunity as a catalyst


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
yea


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
greed-oriented welfare fraud is what needs to fuck right off 2bh


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
need-oriented, eh


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
i mean


[06-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats different


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
thats why im all for increasing the amount that goes out


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
your argument is disingenuous, you are assuming that it is easy to get a job, that there is demand in labour in Australia, that there are enough jobs available for the unemployed populace, that we all don't have obligations to apply for work.


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
no idea how the job market is 2bh


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Where labour is increasingly off sourced or automated


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
since im in a different bubble for that


[06-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Tecuane#0001
i get job offers literally every day so for my industry its obviously ok


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Tecuane#0001
but thats not for everyone


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and the minimum 'experience' for most entry level minimum wage jobs is several years of experience.


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
education doesn't matter much either


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Tecuane#0001
so i can tell


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
you get your degree and you find jobs that will simply avoid you


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
for lack of 'experience', despite higher education.


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
despite years of study


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/dole-bludgers-and-other-urban-myths,11997

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Dole bludgers and other urban myths
It's time to put the dole bludger myth to bed and focus on helping young people down on their luck, writes Tarric Brooker.


[06-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
"As a result, members of the general public have been conditioned to believe that “dole bludgers” consume an inordinate amount of their hard earned tax dollars, despite Newstart and sickness allowance payments costing less than 2.1% of the total 2018 Federal Budget."


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between newstart and centrelink?


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
the real dole bludgers are corporations


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
who frequently get tax cuts, handouts and subsidies


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
oh


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
shit i got trolled


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
you're one of these guys


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
fuck i should've tested the waters with your opinions on businesses before i engaged you


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
the welfare handouts are minimal at best in terms of overall government budget


[06-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Tecuane#0001
i was distracted by the aa bill


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
so you care about your taxes going to poor people and helping them survive more than you care for large corporations getting your tax money?


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I havent beenable to fidn a job in near 8 years now


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
large corporations keep me employed


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
what do you want me to say


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
large corporations use this for stock buybacks


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to help employees


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a proven fact


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
i work as a consultant


[06-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Tecuane#0001
im not an employee


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m a college student trying to get a trade job


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
so you're an independant contractor? if so, you're still dependant on those that contract you, thus you're still a form of employee.


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Tecuane#0001
not really


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
but you're arguing semantics


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's technically self-employent


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
point is, less taxes on corporations actually means you have to pay more taxes generally as an everyday person for the government to sustain it's spending


[06-Dec-18 01:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it doesn't help you at all


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
you might make a little, but companies making more results in inflation


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
your $ is worth less


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
i should probably qualify


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
but they have more $$ so they don't have to care


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
i have absolutely no idea what the value of a dollar is


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
at this point


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean how much it costs to buy food


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
so if you're going down this road


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
the answer is


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
electronics


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Tecuane#0001
i have no fucking idea


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the value of a dollar is whatever a rich person says it is


[06-Dec-18 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
anything


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the value of your dollar based on inflation, not ratios to other dollars


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the dollar that could buy more 10 years ago than it can now


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
not due to any USD ratio, but due to inflation


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a quarter could pay for atleast 12 things way bakc when


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
economics is fun like that


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it pays for nothing


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
what i meant is


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean as little as 10 years ago, things costed a lot less, everyday food items


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
40% of my salary goes to tax


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
my salary puts me in a position


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
where


[06-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
i dont actually know


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
what the realities are


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
anymore


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
so if you want to talk about things like that


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
i am not your guy


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
because i just dont understand


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
but your salary is worth less as a result of these corporations hiking up prices because there's little regulation on them


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds like it's time to cut back on hours to sit down and study.


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
i am in a different bubble to that


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as far as the scale of welfare fraud, the stuff caught at least a decade ago was like AU$400 million out of AU$80+ billion


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] ononim#8141
>arcaire being an insuferable ass


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's an acceptable level


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
so less than 1%, who'da thunk


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] ononim#8141
must be tuesday


[06-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Tecuane#0001
@Nebbie its always been understaffed though


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
wow ononim is still hired


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
what a surprise


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
the most autistic always stay to wrangle the farm


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but even if the caught stuff was only a third the total, that's like 2%


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
in fact


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
less than 0.5%


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not gonna get a whole lot done by the gov't with AU$1 billion


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
i am going to go and eat lunch instead of debate this


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
i mean


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
we don't get a lot done


[06-Dec-18 01:48 AM] Tecuane#0001
full stop


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Tecuane#0001
we aren't good at getting things done without watering it down to piss


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
that math proves you're wrong on the centrelink front, that's it


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, AU$ is $0.73


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
get shitty at banks for causing recession


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
banks and large corporations


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
enjoy the 2020 recession


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
coming soon to countries near you


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Tecuane#0001
Can't relate


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what dissociativity is really getting at is the problem with supply-side economics


[06-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the theory is that you put all the money into businesses and tax workers


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the businesses provide jobs that trikkle the money down


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
the lack of regulation means that corporations can offsource their workers, that means less jobs locally and more profit to the corporations


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in practice, the businesses can find ways to not provide good jobs now


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
less jobs means less $$ to spend locally


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
which results in the business hoarding money for itself and investors


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
less money spent locally means higher prices and less products sold to meet equivalent profit


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the money leaves the local economy


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
It's okay though


[06-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Tecuane#0001
Since my industry is about to die in Australia


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's sustainable tho across many industries


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
so because there's noone to buy the products


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
the economy crashes


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
to a certain extent, the cheaper products it enables means people hav more money to spend overall


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
warehouses full of products with noone to buy them


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but eventually, they just don't hav income overall


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
centrelink actually helps the economy a lot


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
because if people spend money


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
businesses can continue running


[06-Dec-18 01:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is money to spend on products, food, ect


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
if there is no money, business cranks to a halt


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
no money spent by the people, no profit


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Demand-side economics meanwhile givs consumers money so that they can buy expensive products so that businesses come to meet the demand.


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that isn't as popular.


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
Centrelink is objectively an okay system


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you need a bit of both.


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
I'm t just. Could be improved


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
Wow typos


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the improvements might not be worth it


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
It just *


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
the increasing automation and outsourcing means that universal basic income is inevitable, or we get huge recession after recession and even famine


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
Nah let's buy submarines instead


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
the great depression in america killed7 million people


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Tecuane#0001
We need those


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
why?


[06-Dec-18 01:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
farmers couldn't afford their land


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] ononim#8141
I think that was sarcasm


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
farmers couldn't thus work the land


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Tecuane#0001
It was


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Tecuane#0001
We don't need subs


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
the land was unworked and possessed by banks


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
no food was produced


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
famine


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
that can happen anywhere


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, a billion aussie dollars might not actually pay for the centrelink employees necessary to get all the fraud caught, Arc


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Tecuane#0001
You should see how much we spent on subs


[06-Dec-18 01:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
and it will if people are unable to afford the food


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Subs might hav a good ROI tho


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can have supermarkets full of food, and people starving if centrelink would not exist


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Tecuane#0001
They don't


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
construct nukes


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I'm saying is detecting 100% of welfare fraud is very unlikely to hav good ROI


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
start aiming them at everyone


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
tell them to fuck off


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the last 1% of it will be much harder to find than the first 99%


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Tecuane#0001
Dude we're Australia


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Tecuane#0001
Nobody even notices


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll be tiny things like misreporting income


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Tecuane#0001
We could scream like NK


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Tecuane#0001
And people wouldn't notice


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
I think unnecessary military budget is the onlything most of us can agree on lel


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Finding the first half might hav a good ROI


[06-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is likely where things sit


[06-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[06-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Tecuane#0001
Luckily we don't glorify it as much as some countries


[06-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you shouldn't spend the money on subs, spending it finding the other half of welfare fraud is unlikely to be a good idea either


[06-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it might just be better spent buying more solar panels, really.


[06-Dec-18 01:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
so imagine your income was taxed less, but millionaires were taxed more


[06-Dec-18 01:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
you'd have more money, the government would have more money to actually fund useful social projects, fix roads, ect


[06-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, with how high the ROI on welfare tends to be


[06-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of it would probably be better spent raising the baseline of welfare


[06-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
some of which you'll get bakk because you've prevented some of that need-based fraud.


[06-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
according to that article I linked, without heavy support from family and friends, the welfare payout isn't actually enough to live on your own


[06-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I missed that article.


[06-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/dole-bludgers-and-other-urban-myths,11997

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Dole bludgers and other urban myths
It's time to put the dole bludger myth to bed and focus on helping young people down on their luck, writes Tarric Brooker.


[06-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
>In reality, however, there are very few people living comfortably solely on Centrelink payments, alone, without the help of parents, or other friends and family to help make up the inevitable shortfall.


[06-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
"As a result, members of the general public have been conditioned to believe that “dole bludgers” consume an inordinate amount of their hard earned tax dollars, despite Newstart and sickness allowance payments costing less than 2.1% of the total 2018 Federal Budget."


[06-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between newstart and centrelink?


[06-Dec-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is a dole bludger?


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's slang for welfare fraud


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe it's the aussie equivalent of "welfare queen"


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
A derogatory term meant to dehumanize people by claiming they are living a life of undeserved luxury.


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Honahue#0656
What Nebbie is describing is call Marginal Benefit


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[06-Dec-18 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right it's that thign where the government forces tyou to job hunt once a month to keep your health coverage


[06-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/newstart-allowance

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Newstart Allowance - Australian Government Department of Human Ser...
The main income support payment while you’re unemployed and looking for work.


[06-Dec-18 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
~~asutralia also could benefit in not runing concentration camps for immigrants who are not white enough~~


[06-Dec-18 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if you aren't healthy enough to actually hold a job


[06-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
There's a lot of bullshit about the current system


[06-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
Some of it is outright unfair to people who need it to survive etc


[06-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
And the job centres are honestly a total piece of shit


[06-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Tecuane#0001
All of them


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
At least there's a net, I guess? Idk.


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Just listened to a person argue for multiple hours about how deregulating telecoms would make net neutrality unnecessary


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
Was that person lemon drop


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how?


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
That sounds like something they would say.


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how woudl that even work?


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
No but lemon drop did argue that before


[06-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Tecuane#0001
Unsurprising.


[06-Dec-18 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I pointed out that doing so would also invalidate consumer protections and was told "competition will make consumer protection unnecessary!"


[06-Dec-18 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
typical free marketer


[06-Dec-18 02:10 AM] ononim#8141

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[06-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
That dude is just amazing


[06-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Tecuane#0001
I've never seen so many wrong opinions in rapid fire


[06-Dec-18 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane

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[06-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
My fucking sides


[06-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
what competition


[06-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[06-Dec-18 02:14 AM] ononim#8141
hol up everyone


[06-Dec-18 02:14 AM] ononim#8141
I got a few screencaps of him going


[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
Hol up


[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
You sayin we wuz


[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
Retards n shit?


[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Tecuane#0001
Wow imagine being this misguided


[06-Dec-18 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
Omegalul


[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Tecuane#0001
Imaging believing this


[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
and a meme I made


[06-Dec-18 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Tecuane#0001
Mr gotcha


[06-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Mikey#7286
what a cock


[06-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Tecuane#0001
Yeah this dude is pretty misguided


[06-Dec-18 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
computers are the gods of the future~


[06-Dec-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont really get that arguement when computers havent reached that level yet


[06-Dec-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and evne then that entirely relies on humans making it that far into the future


[06-Dec-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is this what happens when computer engineers become a class all of their own, among the professional class, and let to play freely with their toys in order to build a world as they see it, and not the world as the rest of us want it?


[06-Dec-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
I guess so.


[06-Dec-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
computer engineering is a religion now


[06-Dec-18 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
And like all religion let it be  d e m o c r a t i z e d


[06-Dec-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm jsut waitign for someone to invent the automated CEO and thne for businesses everwhere to go "nope! that's too far"


[06-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
fun-fact: they're just beginning to automate lawyers.


[06-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
90% of all lawyer's duties, or duties at a legal firm is research and assembling files.


[06-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meaning you need a bunch of people per one trial lawyer to comb legal archives to build the background of your client and search for precedent to argue in court.


[06-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then print that out and set it up on the trial lawyer's desk to review before game time.


[06-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
But they are - or have already - built an automated system that does that all automatically.


[06-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
You give it a few key words like Google, and away it goes


[06-Dec-18 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the automated lobbyist shoudl be interesting


[06-Dec-18 02:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
inb4 news break the automated lobby got hacked and is now paying senators to install full communism


[06-Dec-18 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is this praxis?


[06-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda) no they won't


[06-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
businesses aren't just run by the CEO


[06-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, businesses would welcome automated CEOs so they don't have to pay that salary


[06-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's the board of directors who have the most power in a corporation


[06-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
the CEO runs the business


[06-Dec-18 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[06-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
but the board of directors that actually control what the business does


[06-Dec-18 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forgot about the board of directors


[06-Dec-18 03:12 AM] ononim#8141
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[06-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
are all 4 of those images from the same protest?


[06-Dec-18 03:13 AM] ononim#8141
well maybe not from day one but yeah


[06-Dec-18 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
man nazies weasle in any political shit they can


[06-Dec-18 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
I remember having to share a square in protest against censorship of internet with them


[06-Dec-18 03:16 AM] ononim#8141
and also had me and people I was with walk away half way through demonstration in support of political prisoners because they called for freedom of a guy who called for a race was and afaik beat people who weren't "slav" enough


[06-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, "called for a race was" race war?


[06-Dec-18 03:23 AM] ononim#8141
ye


[06-Dec-18 03:23 AM] ononim#8141
holy shit it;s 5 am


[06-Dec-18 03:23 AM] ononim#8141
I am off


[06-Dec-18 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if an ambassador or other officials with diplomatic immunity could get away with public sex


[06-Dec-18 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a good question


[06-Dec-18 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They could but it would need to be with someone that is also immune.


[06-Dec-18 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
diplomatic immunity public orgy


[06-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
diplomatic immunity doesn't really apply like that


[06-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
generally the immunity only applies to things that are connected to their diplomatic role


[06-Dec-18 04:00 AM] Tecuane#0001
and are not considered 'serious crimes'


[06-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
idk, from what I've read the only thing that you can do to people with diplomatic immunity is expel them from the country


[06-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
the thing is that the country of origin can waive diplomatic immunity if they consider the crime serious or unjust


[06-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, was about to say that


[06-Dec-18 04:01 AM] Tecuane#0001
an individual can't waive their own immunity but their country of origin can


[06-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
public sex is one of those pretty much universally banned things that nobody talks about except to try and argue that something like public nudity shouldn't be allowed


[06-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
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[06-Dec-18 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that whole movement went horribly wrogn


[06-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
oh god https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/first-wisconsin-did-it-now-republicans-michigan-move-strip-democrats-n944496

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Democrats called the move a blatant power grab that would fly in the face of voters.
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[06-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
now michigan is doing it too


[06-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
encouraged by wisconsin stripping the incoming democratic governor and attorney general of key powers intrinsic to their positions


[06-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
A day after GOP lawmakers finalized an unprecedented maneuver to gut minimum wage and paid sick leave laws, a Senate panel passed legislation that would create the Fair Political Practices Commission to enforce the campaign-finance law rather than Secretary of State-elect Jocelyn Benson, who ran in part on a pledge to advocate for election transparency.


[06-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
http://www2.philly.com/philly/news/politics/nj-redistricting-proposal-democrats-gerrymandering-constitutional-amendment-20181201.html

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To combat gerrymandering, N.J. Democrats propose drawing maps to e...
Across the country, states are trying to remove partisanship from redistricting, with Democratic support. New Jersey Democrats are moving in the opposite direction.
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[06-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, democrats trying to enshrine gerrymandering in the new jersey constitution


[06-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Nile#1441
Why do they redraw districts every so often


[06-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
higher population = more districts


[06-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Nile#1441
Come up with a square and leave it there :Cakelestia:


[06-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
both state and federal houses are based on population


[06-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
so when the population reaches a certain size, a new seat is added


[06-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
so a new district needs to be drawn


[06-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Nile#1441
Sounds dumb


[06-Dec-18 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
also, democrat gerrymandering of maryland is going to reach the US supreme court https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/new-partisan-gerrymander-case-reaches-justices

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[06-Dec-18 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
this is actually bad for republicans overall because more states have been gerrymandered by republicans than democrats


[06-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
this is the problem when you have two different parties which are just two different flavors of the same political belief


[06-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
you get both sides doing shitty things and making backdoor deals to keep power from any outside influence


[06-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, in the end gerrymandering is less about making it so that the other party can't win and more about enshrining their own party to prevent outsiders from gaining a foothold in the party


[06-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nile#1441
It'd be amusing to see parties with more radical beliefs come in


[06-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/05/business/huawei-cfo-arrest-canada-extradition.html

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A Top Huawei Executive Is Arrested in Canada for Extradition to th...
The arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer, is likely to escalate tensions between the United States and China just as their trade tensions had begun to thaw.
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[06-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
He said she was “sought for extradition by the United States” but did not give a reason for what prompted the arrest. He added that a publication ban requested by Ms. Meng prevented him from providing any further details. A bail hearing has been set for Friday.


[06-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[06-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Nile#1441
I knew the Chinese were up to something :trixdisgust:


[06-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
now they're just arresting random chinese executives


[06-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
and having them extradited to the US


[06-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
Mr. Sasse said China had been “working to creatively undermine our national security interests, and the United States and our allies can’t sit on the sidelines.” He added that “Americans are grateful that our Canadian partners have arrested the chief financial officer of a giant Chinese telecom company for breaking U.S. sanctions against Iran.”


[06-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
but that's the fucking country


[06-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
that's not some random company's executive's fault


[06-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Nile#1441
Hard to feel sympathy for corporate bigwigs tbh


[06-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
I don't care about bigwigs in terms of economic wellbeing, they can handle the heat


[06-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
but this political grandstanding is retarded


[06-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
especially considering that the US sanctions on iran might not even be legal


[06-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nile#1441
I'm not so strung up on Iran, I don't get why they're so "feared".


[06-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
hezbollah is a terrorist group funded and maintained by iran


[06-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
and they were also trying to get nukes


[06-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
some iran officials claim that if they ever successfully developed nuclear weapons, their first target would immediately be israel


[06-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Nile#1441
oof


[06-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
which of course is retarded because israel also has nukes


[06-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
and would lead to MAD


[06-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
plus any semblence of order in the middle east with such a big power vacuum


[06-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's already pretty fucked up, but not on the scale it would be after two of its biggest powers were nuked into nonexistence


[06-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
like the only real difference between saudi arabia and iran is that saudi arabia made friends with the west before they came in and took over by force


[06-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
while iran was basically invaded by the UK for its oil


[06-Dec-18 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
white people: OIL OIL OIL OIL WHERE DA OIL AT


[06-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
at first it was the same sort of deal that saudi arabia had, only the government in arabia was making money off of it


[06-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
but then people wanted worker's rights in iran, which the local government didn't interfere with


[06-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
so the UK started blockading iran


[06-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
but the worker's managed to force the people from the UK out and elect a popular president which supported worker's rights


[06-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
so the UK lied to the US and CIA about him being a communist plant


[06-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
the CIA didn't really care that it was lied to or not after the fact, but it staged a media takeover and started printing out all sorts of fake news in all of tehran's newspapers about how the president was going to sell out to the UK


[06-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
he was moderate left


[06-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
after he was forced out, a far right religious nutjob replaced him


[06-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
which seems to be the history of most CIA interference in the world


[06-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
The current regime needs to die in Iran, though not by outside interference.


[06-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
I'd be down with that.


[06-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
One glimmer of hope was that I had seen a couple videos of some protestors wanting the Shah to return, which would be ultra based.


[06-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Huawei is treated with extreme suspicion with good reason


[06-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
Crown Prince Pahlavi is a good dude


[06-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
China does not play nice when it comes to indirect espionage, they can and will force companies to let them bakkdoor in in some capacity.


[06-Dec-18 05:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
China is not nice at all when it comes to even potential dissent


[06-Dec-18 05:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I mean there wass this Nobel Peace Prize winner that China *really* cracked down on when they found out


[06-Dec-18 05:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
When the world condemned the crackdown, China basically went "Fuck you guys"


[06-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/john-dingell-how-restore-faith-government/577222/

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Abolish the Senate and publicly fund elections.
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[06-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Abolish the Senate**


[06-Dec-18 05:53 AM] RYDE#8862
Abolish the Senate


[06-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Crow#5457

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[06-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's treason, then


[06-Dec-18 05:57 AM] RYDE#8862
You're under arrest Chancellor Palpatine


[06-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
[autistic screeching]


[06-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0r4jNhG9Z4&t=63

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Mace Windu Vs Palpatine 1080p. Edited so it moves little bit faster :3 I do not own anything in this video all goes to Disney and Lucasfilm.
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[06-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
that was actually a force move btw


[06-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
used to shock and put opponents off-balance


[06-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
which is why he killed so many jedi masters so quickly


[06-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
plus the fact that the jedi masters of the time (except windu) hadn't fought anyone near the level of palpatine, he was pretty much considered one of the most powerful dark side users in the history of the galaxy


[06-Dec-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Star wars is 🏳️‍🌈

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[06-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
no u


[06-Dec-18 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.bwlibertyordeath.net/2012/10/11/military-collectivism/

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Military Collectivism


[06-Dec-18 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[06-Dec-18 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
this post or article or whatever you call it makes it sound like all collectivism is military collectivism


[06-Dec-18 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
it was the #1 result from searching "is the army collectivist" on google


[06-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
having been in the military it is not a collective


[06-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Tecuane#0001
OMEGALUL


[06-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
the encryption bill didnt pass


[06-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
because it was locked up with an immigration bill


[06-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
and the govt didnt want to deal with the immigration bill this year


[06-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Tecuane#0001
so they dropped both and closed sitting for the year


[06-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/reasons-to-not-join-the-military.html

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https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/reasons-to-not-join-the-military.html
Reasons To Not Join the Military
Everybody’s always talking about why you should join the military, so I decided to give you five reasons you shouldn’t join.
https://images02.military.com/sites/default/files/undertheradar-thumbnails/2014/12/enlistmentlead-copy.jpg


[06-Dec-18 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
basically things treated as practically rights in more sane countries are listed as incentives to join the military in the US


[06-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
"don't you want to be able to go to college and get an education?"


[06-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
"don't you want 30 days paid vacation a year?"


[06-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
"don't you want to travel?"


[06-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
"don't you want healthcare?"


[06-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
"don't you want to have retirement?"


[06-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Well free education and healrhcare is nice but not worth being killed


[06-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
(that last one is straight up a lie given how many problems people have with veterans affairs)


[06-Dec-18 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the military is the US's biggest welfare program


[06-Dec-18 07:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've heard people say soldiers should be paid more, but from all the info an army officer friend of mine gets me they might as well be already high paid already with all the bonuses and shit they get. Free healthcare, free dental, on base food, long vacation, free ride in college, arguably a boost in employment chance (depending on field relative to what branch and speciality you served as). So further kow-towing to the military is unnecessary tbh.


[06-Dec-18 07:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or as Chapo Trap House joked once: so we want to give the people whose bodies and minds have been broken for this nation? What about the people whose bodies and mind are broken just by existing?


[06-Dec-18 07:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a line in Sebastian Junger's book Tribe that resonates with my oppinions as well. While service men and women are good people, you shouldn't serve your nation in the army just because. You should have the right to decide in which conflict or way you want to serve; if at all.


[06-Dec-18 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sebastian Junger relates this as a piece of advice his veteran father told him, he being a Vietnam vet. Junger had been presented with the Selective Service application and when he approached his dad about refusing he basically said, "Good, you should choose when and how and not when they want you."


[06-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason why I'm not in the US military right now is because I dislike how it's used


[06-Dec-18 07:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Generally, doing this can really hurt your employment chances later in life for some reason, or so I heard. So if true - I forget if I ever said yes or no myself - is kind of like holding your future hostage if you don't agree to be a follower for some undesignated possibility.


[06-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
it's a peacekeeping force, but it's also involved in pointlessly harmful shit


[06-Dec-18 07:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
But to Junger's credit, he somehow skipped out on all that when he picked up a typewriter and managed to get the bare minimum scrapped together to jump into the Balkans during the war in the 90's to do on the ground reporting g from some of the worst fronts, sealing his early credentials as a viable war reporter.


[06-Dec-18 07:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've mulled about doing shit in the Peace Corp as an alternative. They're not shooting fucks. But more abstractly I'd call it philanthropic imperialism. But it's a better service than the army by far tbh.


[06-Dec-18 09:06 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
My (extreme) opinion is that conscription, unless you're like Singapore or Taiwan (where there's a nearby government that isn't happy with you around or there's too few people), is a breach of human rights


[06-Dec-18 09:07 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Under ideal circumstances *no one* should be forced to serve in the military


[06-Dec-18 09:07 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
or suffer consequences for refusing non-compulsory military service that is worse than not getting the benefit of a member of armed forces


[06-Dec-18 09:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I agree


[06-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
@PzZ1-TD1 what about israel lol


[06-Dec-18 09:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Israel is kinda like South Korea or Taiwan where there are governments whose hostilities to its sovereignity are obvious


[06-Dec-18 09:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so it gets a pass if it enacts conscription


[06-Dec-18 09:43 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I think Swiss gets a pass too, considering it relies on a militia incase it needs to fight


[06-Dec-18 10:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
As an interesting observation when it comes to Isreal at least: I won't speak of Taiwan, Singapore, or South Korea because they haven't been on active combat as I recall, but to go back to Junger's book Tribe they don't have a PTSD problem as we do. That being because everyone in Isreal has been in war or directly affected by war. There's no sense of alienation between combat vets and the civilian populace. More so given that the fighting they do is basically out the back door.


[06-Dec-18 10:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Given I'm re-reading - or rather: listening to it in audiobook format - Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons only lengthens my now growing list of complaints against Somber. I'm actually about to finish his monster in a couple days so I'll be able to compile a finalized list, but a lot of it has matastasized and I doubt no matter how it ends I'll still be angry


[06-Dec-18 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up?ref=home

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Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up
The president thinks the balancing of the nation’s books is going to, ultimately, be a future president’s problem.
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[06-Dec-18 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-debt-crisis-shrugs-off_us_5c08efd3e4b069028dc6a6d7

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Trump Reportedly Shrugged Off Looming Debt Crisis Because 'I Won't...
Trump "appears to be bringing the same approach to the country he took to his casinos and other failed businesses," one congressman replied to the report.
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[06-Dec-18 01:36 PM] Tecuane#0001
Crow would you even pass basic


[06-Dec-18 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/4/18126061/tariff-man-trump-china-tweets-memes-stock-market

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Trump called himself "Tariff Man." The internet did the rest.
Trump tweets about his trade war with China, and a meme is born.
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[06-Dec-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://boingboing.net/2018/12/05/wolnesocialmedia.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2018/12/05/wolnesocialmedia.html
Poland rejects the EU's copyright censorship plans, calls it #ACTA2
Poland rejects the EU's copyright censorship plans, calls it #ACTA2
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Screenshot_20181205_050251.png


[06-Dec-18 07:19 PM] ononim#8141
Poland doing something good for once


[06-Dec-18 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://torontolife.com/city/life/my-beautiful-death/

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Angie Gardos
https://torontolife.com/city/life/my-beautiful-death/
My beautiful death
I spent 15 years sanding and grinding mussel shells to create my sculptures. I had no idea they were slowly killing me
https://cdn.torontolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/memoir_opener2-1200x628-1542658827.jpg


[06-Dec-18 08:04 PM] ononim#8141
>Industrial waste pollutes water
>Filter feeders process waste and store toxins in their bodies
>People harvest shells for art
>Artist suffers from exposure to toxic materials, suffers for years with debilitating mental and physical symptoms.


[06-Dec-18 08:07 PM] Electron#4561
D:


[06-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/bladen-county-election-fraud-and-north-carolina-voter-id/577393/

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There’s Finally a Persuasive Case of Election Fraud, and Republ...
A congressional race in North Carolina suggests that the likeliest threats to the integrity of elections aren’t the ones that GOP lawmakers are addressing.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/12/AP080328031192/facebook.jpg?1544112741


[06-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
of course it's when a republican is doing it


[06-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
In Bladen County, in the southeastern part of the state, Dowless, who had won a race for soil and water commissioner, alleged that “literally hundreds of fraudulent ballots” were cast in his race. When he was called before the North Carolina State Board of Elections to discuss his complaint, he was unable to answer specific questions about his allegations. More astonishingly, Dowless at one point deflected a question by invoking his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination—even though the board was hearing a complaint he himself had filed.


[06-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
>deflected a question by invoking his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination—even though the board was hearing a complaint he himself had filed.


[06-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
how idiotic can you be lol


[06-Dec-18 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
"After years of searching for proof that voting fraud is rampant in the Old North State, there’s finally a persuasive case—and it’s a kind of fraud the new law is unlikely to stop."


[06-Dec-18 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
@Tecuane, why wouldn't I be able to pass?


[06-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/420067-north-carolina-gop-calls-for-bipartisan-investigation-into-election

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GOP, Dems locked in fight over North Carolina fraud probe
North Carolina Democrats and Republicans both said Thursday they want serious investigations into allegations of widespread elections fraud in one of the most closely divided U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/harrismark_111318gn_lead_0.jpg


[06-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
another article on the same thing


[06-Dec-18 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[06-Dec-18 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit north carolina why are you so dumb politically


[06-Dec-18 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/open-skies-treaty-us-military-flight-over-ukraine-amid-tension-with-russia-today-2018-12-6/

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U.S. carries out "extraordinary" flight over Ukraine, citing Russi...
U.S. carries out flight after Russia seized three Ukrainian naval ships off Crimea
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/12/06/ed0a153e-ce4c-4327-aa70-8a925a6138d4/thumbnail/1200x630/9a1181c5071a6a5487dccd7098a73c0f/fa-18-fighter-jet-kc-130-refueling-ap-18340057755087.jpg


[06-Dec-18 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane how do u feel now that they passed it lmao


[06-Dec-18 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jamal-khashoggi-death-senators-introduce-bipartisan-resolution-to-blame-saudi-arabia/

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Senators introduce bipartisan resolution to blame Saudi Arabia for...
Bipartisan measure says Saudi Arabia's crown prince is complicit in the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/11/09/845939bd-5e5f-48a4-89a4-aff89d991d44/thumbnail/1200x630/08d02ea8a13d70d46b21748fce1d67c7/jamal-khashoggi-fiancee-photo.jpg


[06-Dec-18 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the url has now introdfuced the title of "kashoggi death senator" to me


[06-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/how-this-university-student-tricked-into-having-sex-has-exposed-loopholes-in-rape-laws/news-story/e6162d5077272c5be74a216f454d2db2

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This woman was tricked into sex with her boyfriend’s mate
When Abigail Finney went to climb back into her boyfriend’s bed that’s when the horror of what had just happened hit her.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a6cd0243a3ffbcfe98287933780f48b9?width=650


[06-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[06-Dec-18 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
I was looking for news on that encryption bill


[06-Dec-18 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
and found that (it happened in indiana)


[06-Dec-18 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/woman-tricked-into-sex-with-boyfriends-pal-exposes-loophole-in-rape-laws/

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Woman tricked into sex with boyfriend’s pal exposes loophole in ...
An Indiana college student watched in horror as a creep who tricked her into having sex with him got off scot-free because of a legal loophole, she said in a new report. Abigail Finney, 20, fell as…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/abigail-finney-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[06-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
there's something seriously wrong with the US


[06-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
"In Indiana, and 40 other states including New York, rape is legally defined as sex compelled through force or threats or if the victim can’t consent or is unaware that the sex is occurring. Consent isn’t expressly defined in the statute."


[06-Dec-18 10:02 PM] DevField#5162
How would you define rape? @Crow


[06-Dec-18 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
forced, can't consent, doesn't consent, and deceptive/misleading sex


[06-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
at the very least he should've been registered as a sex offender


[06-Dec-18 10:04 PM] DevField#5162
I'll have to read this article.
It certainly is concerning if there's loopholes that some people can use to just walk free


[06-Dec-18 10:07 PM] DevField#5162
Oh boy.


[06-Dec-18 10:14 PM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] same as before tbh


[06-Dec-18 10:15 PM] Tecuane#0001
doesn't go into effect for over a month and will probably never actually be properly used


[06-Dec-18 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
you're not even concerned about the fact that it's on the books?


[06-Dec-18 10:16 PM] Tecuane#0001
No


[06-Dec-18 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow I see someone hasn't looked much into the history of rape law


[06-Dec-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea of requiring some form of explicit or even implicit consent is relatively new.


[06-Dec-18 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
"rape" as a word literally did not mean sex without consent, it meant kidnapping a woman [for sex with or without consent]


[06-Dec-18 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was essentially a form of theft


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
yeah I know


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
rape of persephone etc


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
@Tecuane, why wouldn't I be able to pass basic?


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
As society has gotten very individualist and feminist, we've only recently gotten to this idea that rape and sexual assault are the same thing


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
and tbh


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's kinda shitty to get up in arms about it when sexual assault law is already covering this stuff


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, like I said at the very least he committed sexual assault


[06-Dec-18 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the concern is merely semantics


[06-Dec-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like "OMG SEX WITHOUT CONSENT IS RAAAAAPE NOT SEXUAL ASSAULT"


[06-Dec-18 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.clickhole.com/at-a-loss-the-fcc-has-announced-that-they-can-t-unders-1830885511?utm_campaign=SF&utm_c

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At A Loss: The FCC Has Announced That They Can’t Understand What...
Here’s some news that isn’t about to make parenting any easier: The FCC has announced that they can’t understand what the hell is going on in anime and honestly have no idea if it’s okay for children.
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[06-Dec-18 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's missing the forest for the valley


[06-Dec-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Btw France had to deal with this recently


[06-Dec-18 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was a technicality where their rape law didn't cover trikking a minor into consenting, even tho their sexual assault law did


[06-Dec-18 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
so they changed the rape law to include "abuse of vulnerability" just to appease the semantic concerns


[06-Dec-18 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://66.media.tumblr.com/fd66af1df0de654e3916e0eb7123316b/tumblr_pjbp9fUu2c1rvew28_540.jpg

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[06-Dec-18 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh their new rape law would actually make tons of sense *replacing* the sexual assault law, because it actually has a sane idea of consent whereby there isn't a magic age at which it goes from being totally invalid under all circumstances to totally valid under all circumstances, and instead has a magic age where it goes from being "prove they can consent" to "prove they can't consent", but you know how it is with that, people would be up in arms over some Syrian migrants who let an 18 year old and a 14 year old screw or something.


[06-Dec-18 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, HW Bush was really bad with the whole killing people thing.


[06-Dec-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html

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By MIRIAM JORDAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html
Making President Trump’s Bed: A Housekeeper Without Papers
At the president’s New Jersey golf course, an undocumented immigrant has worked as a maid since 2013. She said she never imagined she “would see such important people close up.”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/07/us/07trumpgolfcourse01/07trumpgolfcourse01-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[06-Dec-18 10:31 PM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[] I mean the company can literally tell them its impossible


[06-Dec-18 10:32 PM] Tecuane#0001
And it'll be ok


[06-Dec-18 10:32 PM] Tecuane#0001
So unless you're retarded enough to use whatsapp or telegram or discord for your illegal activity


[06-Dec-18 10:32 PM] Tecuane#0001
Even as a criminal you would have nothing to worry about


[06-Dec-18 10:33 PM] Tecuane#0001
@Crow it involves going outside and running around


[06-Dec-18 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
I know, I used to run about 3 miles every other day a few years ago


[06-Dec-18 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
not running the whole time, but in intervals of about 0.75 miles


[06-Dec-18 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
so 0.75 run, 0.75 walk twice


[06-Dec-18 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
4.8 km, 1.2 km intervals


[06-Dec-18 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467516396943966208/520356503882956811/30m9letmpo221.png

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[06-Dec-18 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Spicy meatball


[06-Dec-18 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
did you literally just copy this from ononim


[06-Dec-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
is okay


[06-Dec-18 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
sharing is caring


[06-Dec-18 11:02 PM] ononim#8141
🛠


[06-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
our memes


[06-Dec-18 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my brand!


[06-Dec-18 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
our brand.


[06-Dec-18 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for our *special eyes*


[06-Dec-18 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
how the media manipulates information https://imgur.com/gallery/FRDAoG3

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https://imgur.com/gallery/FRDAoG3
An example of editorializing. Unfortunately it's from the BBC, but I just wanted to show how lies by omission can occur, usually to support a narrative.
https://i.imgur.com/Z5tXR5nh.jpg


[06-Dec-18 11:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491839305459695618/520370157437321216/DtwtPuoU8AAO7Et.png

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[06-Dec-18 11:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1070772596898115584

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Notch (@notch)
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1070772596898115584
If we were allowed to discuss IQ differences between populations, there'd be fewer conspiracy theories. https://t.co/hXSXEnIJcL
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[06-Dec-18 11:54 PM] ononim#8141
IT'S REAL


[06-Dec-18 11:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1070773433045143557

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Notch (@notch)
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1070773433045143557
Then I already am silenced. https://t.co/Pmv69e7wlP
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[06-Dec-18 11:55 PM] ononim#8141
HOLY SHIT


[06-Dec-18 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim is that the guy who made minecraft?


[06-Dec-18 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes


[06-Dec-18 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Paris.

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[06-Dec-18 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
I don't really understand what he's trying to say in the first one


[06-Dec-18 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
that nepotism isn't real?


[06-Dec-18 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think he's trying to say if we were allowed to discuss how some populations have a difference in IQ, there would be no Q.


[06-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
one of his retweets makes it sound like he's trying to say that nepotism isn't real because some groups of people from a specific bloodline or whatever are more intelligent


[07-Dec-18 12:00 AM] ononim#8141
>he retweeted guy who used (((echoes))) unironically


[07-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
the reason why different populations have different IQs is mainly due to experience


[07-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
IQ tests always assume a certain experience in life


[07-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
the most unbiased IQ test in the world is the one used by the US military, the ASVAB


[07-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
but every IQ test has a bias that assumes specific experiences


[07-Dec-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think it's more like abstract pattern recognition especially as it applies to modernity. People coming from naturally rural society have a lower IQ than those in an urban setting, but over time they can catch up, or even their children come to have IQ as high as the rest of the population they're living alongside.


[07-Dec-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
So you could probably adopt that peak east-asian IQ by just going to live in Kyoto for a time.


[07-Dec-18 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
But there's a lot of debate as to what the fuck IQ is, and what IQ tests are actually testing for.


[07-Dec-18 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like is it actual intelligence? If so: how do you quantify? But wait, what if it isn't just intelligence, and it's an amalgamation of several factors. What are those? How do you test for those?


[07-Dec-18 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Does IQ even exist at all?


[07-Dec-18 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
What the fuck is going on?


[07-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hurrr group I don't like is stupid so it's okay to burn them.


[07-Dec-18 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Jerald Diamond wrote a bit about it in his book Guns, Germs, and Steel. Where while he pointed out that urban populations can pick out abstract representations of things since we deal with those on a regular basis, the tribal primitive societies of New Guinea can find the jungle paths that a city dweller can not find, and he speaks having had experience living with these people a lot because they help him find the birds he otherwise researches as bird biologist too.


[07-Dec-18 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
He speculates you can probably give them an ipad and they'll figure it out and still find you those obscure animal trails.


[07-Dec-18 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
So, like: it doesn't fucking matter.


[07-Dec-18 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This can be seen with immigrants to very different countries


[07-Dec-18 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A group that has lower test scores in their home country will suddenly hav the same scores shortly after immigration in the foreign country


[07-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the foreign country won't recognize them as different, and so they get equal treatment, and it's a lot of new stuff, and so the differences just vanish.


[07-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans don't know the difference between a normal Japanese person and the descendents of Feudal Japan's homeless


[07-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-Dec-18 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-Dec-18 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sh4kz_zhyo

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Vadok
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The Internationale (English)
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[07-Dec-18 12:20 AM] ononim#8141
**DIRECT**


[07-Dec-18 12:20 AM] ononim#8141
**RULE**


[07-Dec-18 12:20 AM] ononim#8141
**FROM**


[07-Dec-18 12:20 AM] ononim#8141
**LONDON**


[07-Dec-18 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
West Anglia containment zone when?


[07-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Nile#1441
Nice country you got here

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[07-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The fuck is up with Notch


[07-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The reason why physical differences physically and mentally between races aren't discussed is because a majority of the time it is looked into or brought up as justification to incite hatred


[07-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't debate most of these people but do ask "So what's your goal here?"


[07-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of the time their thoughts are "I want to be able to say that this race is objectively inferior so it is okay for me to call for their elimination."


[07-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just save everyone's time and say you want X race to be a exterminated rather than couching it in pseudoscience


[07-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And no, people calling you shit or challenging you are not censoring you


[07-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also how is it even relevant, does he think Jews are inherently biologically smarter or what


[07-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Convert to Judaism, suddenly get telepathy


[07-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
@byte[]


[07-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
linux.org


[07-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Tecuane#0001
(nsfw)


[07-Dec-18 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane traps are gay


[07-Dec-18 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Dec-18 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that looks mroe liek a sound wave


[07-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a mess https://www.npr.org/2018/12/06/673449144/this-supreme-court-case-could-impact-the-mueller-probe-and-boost-trumps-pardon-p

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A case of a man tried twice for the same gun charge by the federal government and by the state of Alabama could have ramifications for the Mueller investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia.
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[07-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, the issue is the constitution forbids trying someone for the same crime etc. so that the state can't just go after someone until it gets a conviction


[07-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[07-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can try someone for the same crime *in another jurisdiction* when jurisdictions overlap


[07-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut, it's never expected to be exactly the same crime, those jurisdictions serve different purpose


[07-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[07-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
in this case it is almost exactly the same crime, because the federal gov't and state gov'ts nowadays tend to both cover the same criminal behavior


[07-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the Trump administration is saying "pls don't reverse this, one of these days we might use federal law to lokk up people smoking weed that's legal in their state", and if they get their way, Manafort etc. are basically unpardonable because the things they did were within state jurisdiction too.
If instead, precedent gets reversed, then Manafort etc. can be pardoned and that's that, states can't do anything.


[07-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's kind of a mystery why SCOTUS even took up this case to begin with


[07-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other than a direct "it seems to be wrong" sort of thing.


[07-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's super messy, because what's probably wrong with this one guy is required to prevent insanity overall.


[07-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, a governor could pardon someone and prevent them from being tried in federal court if precedent is reversed.


[07-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Tecuane#0001
That's where you're wrong kiddo


[07-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where is?


[07-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/04/673276127/kinder-gentler-indifference-activists-challenge-george-h-w-bush-s-record-on-aids

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'Kinder Gentler Indifference': Activists Challenge George H.W. Bus...
The AIDS epidemic was a full-blown crisis during the presidency of George H.W. Bush. While his rhetoric was softer than that of his predecessor, Ronald Reagan, advocates say his actions fell short.
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[07-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty self-explanatory.


[07-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181205232658.htm

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[07-Dec-18 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1070041827217154050

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[07-Dec-18 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[07-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how neoliberals managed to convince so many blue collar workers that capitalism has their best interests in mind


[07-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_PlorW6pM

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The new supercomputer behind the US nuclear arsenal
“Sierra” was just crowned the second-most powerful supercomputer on the planet. And while most of its peers use their power for climate simulations, astrophy...
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[07-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy, instead of science, we should do WAR


[07-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
it's being removed from any external networks


[07-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
and all of its operations are being classified


[07-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
so because the US can't test their nuclear arsenal due to international treaty, they're instead going to take over the second most powerful supercomputer in the world and use it to model the testing instead


[07-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/cost-of-california-wildfire-has-caused-an-insurance-company-to-go-out-of-business-47af82955e80/

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Kyla Mandel
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Insurance company overwhelmed by cost of California wildfire, goes...
It was facing $64 million in fire-related claims.
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[07-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
fuck


[07-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46471447

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Trump's environmental rollback rolls on
The administration plans to open protected lands for drilling and lift curbs on carbon emissions.
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[07-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
fuck


[07-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics-cdu/merkels-party-votes-for-new-leader-and-new-era-in-germany-idUSKBN1O606R

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Merkel's party votes for new leader, and new era in Germany
Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats vote on Friday to decide who replaces h...
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[07-Dec-18 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course trump wants to rip america's nature apart by the seams for cold whoring cash


[07-Dec-18 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cash is his only motivator for everything he does


[07-Dec-18 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if your country isnt paying him like the saudis and russia are, he wont give you the time of day


[07-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cast and stature


[07-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-announces-largest-continuous-oil-assessment-texas-and-new-mexico

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USGS Announces Largest Continuous Oil Assessment in Texas and New ...
Assessment units for the Wolfcamp Shale and Bone Spring Formation of the Delaware Basin.(Public domain.)


[07-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
now the US no longer has to free anyone of their oil


[07-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
there's so much goddamn oil in the US that people would want to invade us to liberate our oil


[07-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
and it's all in new mexico and texas


[07-Dec-18 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet we're still goign to rip and tear for more


[07-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
both states are 100% ok with ruining the environment


[07-Dec-18 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then both states are traitors to their country


[07-Dec-18 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-07/trump-is-said-to-pick-nauert-to-replace-haley-as-un-ambassador


[07-Dec-18 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump jsut picked a fox news host to be the US's ambassador tot he UN


[07-Dec-18 06:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46477719

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Trump 'to choose Nauert for UN role'
State department spokeswoman Heather Nauert will become the new UN ambassador, US media say.
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[07-Dec-18 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/c9f226034f05432b9a00f975e15815bf

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Trump EPA acts to roll back control on climate-changing coal
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[07-Dec-18 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck https://twitter.com/AnnieHardy/status/1070260404113162242

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Personally I’m looking forward to the big EMP drop that will kill all electronics and force us to become tribal human beings that rely on one another once again.
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[07-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
people who seriously think things were better before the 50's are pretty insane


[07-Dec-18 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tribal human beings that [kill each other's men and steal each other's young girls for raping] once again.*


[07-Dec-18 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
On the other hand maybe we won't have so much destructive behavior by young men and teenage boys if their destructive urges can be turned from themselves and channeled towards something else as acceptable destructive behavior against someone else. Probably wouldn't offend so many emotional chads that get "toxic masculinity" used around them.


[07-Dec-18 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a fun aside; in plains Indian culture at least, the bravest thing you could do is to perform in such a way on the field that actually doesn't hurt the enemy.


[07-Dec-18 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bravery rides for instance when horses were Introduced to the Lakota for instance, the point of which being to ride your horse well into effective range and taunt them by riding past.


[07-Dec-18 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or simply slapping the enemy's weapon from their hand and leaving


[07-Dec-18 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Crazy Horse once did a bravery ride against the US Army to raise his image among the Lakota warriors so they'd follow him and not Sitting Bull. So Sitting Bull permanently one-upped him by strolling out into the crossfire of a battle between he and the US Army, taking out his pipe, and having a long smoke as bullets struck the earth around him. He invited others to join him and as they tried to smoke as fast as possible he held his composure. They scurried off and he calmly cleaned his pipe and strolled back. He had every Lakota beat from then on out.


[07-Dec-18 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, so how did they handle breeding pairs?


[07-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Such nonviolence by necessity must be the exception and not the rule.


[07-Dec-18 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow They didn't. If you loved someone, you lived with them and shit. And if you no longer loved them, you two broke up


[07-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can only hav it stand out when violence is the norm.


[07-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I heard the thing about how peaceful or nonviolent some tribes supposedly were during combat


[07-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
then the evil white man came and introduced violence


[07-Dec-18 08:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
When a woman kidnapped by Indians as a kid was recaptured by her fellow whites, she was asked why she didn't want to come back. She told her "rescuers" that she didn't want to return because, "under your society I would marry one man. And if I didn't want to be with them I was stuck. But among my Indian family if I wanted to live with a man I would, and of I didn't want to anymore, I would move."


[07-Dec-18 08:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was a particularly broad institution among many of the tribes.


[07-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reality is that any time you hav tribal stuff you hav violence and rape


[07-Dec-18 08:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Likewise, there was significant drift between them. Pontiac was born to one tribe in Michigan and moved to another, found a wife, and they decided to move to another.


[07-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't hav the same gender oppression as with a 19th century European society, but it's not great.


[07-Dec-18 08:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
The relative violence of the natives wasn't any different than their contemporary white rivals. While a Iroquis war party might to you to a tree with your own guts, the British were burning people for stealing spoons and the Spanish Inquisition was still in full swing and breaking people on wheels.


[07-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/north_america/for-native-americans-sex-didnt-come-with-guilt-21347/

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For Native Americans, Sex Didn't Come With Guilt
For the Aboriginal people of North America, sex was not associated with guilt.
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[07-Dec-18 08:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or if you were the French king, literally tying a guy to four horses, tied to their arms, and stretched out, followed by the hacking off of those limbs, skinned alive, and had molten lead poured into his eye sockets as a priest demanded repetance.


[07-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Huron


[07-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
"Wyandot practiced a loose monogamous marriage that could be ended by divorce by either party at any time and did not confer any degree of sexual exclusivity. Sexual restraints were few and far between, and attractive, young Wyandot women could accumulate considerable wealth bartering sexual favors."


[07-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
While execution methods were violent, there was less overall violence in Europe at the time


[07-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raids to neighboring villages were fairly uncommon


[07-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, a bigger society means less violence, since violence is concentrated at the edges of society where it meets other society


[07-Dec-18 08:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno fam, we're talking about a time when you could be killed for anything.


[07-Dec-18 08:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Burning on a pyre in public was still a viable method of execution in England for a very long time, until the late 1700's.


[07-Dec-18 08:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Public execution was THE public spectacle and event, and most crimes ended in death.


[07-Dec-18 08:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or at least forcing someone to slowly die of yellow fever or some shit at the bottom of a beached galleon.


[07-Dec-18 08:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even later into the 19th century being poor was like being a criminal and you were forced to live in work houses explicitly established to be living worse than you would on the street.


[07-Dec-18 08:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because... Poors I guess.


[07-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
you mean like this http://datcatwhatcameback.tumblr.com/post/180845911946/well-life-isnt-done-kicking-me-around-yet

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[07-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Executions weren't incredibly common tho


[07-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to execute a LOT of people per day to match tribal warfare


[07-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in a tribal society


[07-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
murder, whether by your own tribesmen or warfare is *the main cause of death* most of the time.


[07-Dec-18 03:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Every sperm is sacred. ✝

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[07-Dec-18 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[07-Dec-18 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/us/politics/trump-barr-kelly.html

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By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/us/politics/trump-barr-kelly.html
Trump Will Nominate William Barr as Attorney General
The president’s chief of staff John F. Kelly may also leave his post in coming days, administration officials said.
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[07-Dec-18 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr trump nominated an ex-AG under the first bush as attorney general


[07-Dec-18 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
and that AG supports a strong executive branch


[07-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/tillerson-says-trump-directed-him-to-do-things-that-violate-the-law/2018/12/07/2e8623dc-fa34-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html


[07-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420221-tillerson-trump-would-ask-me-to-do-things-that-i-couldnt-legally-do

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Tillerson: Trump would ask me to do things I couldn't legally do
Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says he often had to push back on President Trump, telling him that some of his requests would violate the law.
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[07-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
“So often, the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it,’ ” Tillerson said at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, in his first public remarks about his truncated tenure since Trump summarily fired him by tweet in March.


[07-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
“And I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,’ ” he said.


[07-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420203-mccabe-rosenstein-opened-obstruction-probe-after-trump-fired-comey?amp

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McCabe, Rosenstein opened obstruction probe after Trump fired Come...
Former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein opened an obstruction of justice investigation into President Trump before special counsel Robert Mueller's appointment,
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[07-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I don't think the president should be allowed to publicly undermine confidence of government


[07-Dec-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he shouldnt but given he's put his damndest into making sure all of his staff are corporate loyalists with shady backgrounds, there's not many people lpeft to stand in hsi way


[07-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll regret turning the president into an absolutist monarch when Ocasio-Cortez wins.


[07-Dec-18 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope so


[07-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
wtf https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/us/cyntoia-brown-prison-release/index.html

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A woman who was 16 when she killed a Nashville man who solicited her for sex must serve at least 51 years in prison before she's eligible for release, according to the Tennessee Supreme Court.
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[07-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
how was she convicted of 1st degree murder?


[07-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
at most it would've been second degree, if not manslaughter


[07-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
"There, Brown saw a gun cabinet in Allan's room, she said during her trial. She resisted him until he appeared to reach under the bed, at which point she believed he was going to kill her. Brown took a gun out of her purse and shot Allan, killing him."


[07-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
the prosecution's argument was that she allowed herself to be taken so that she could rob him


[07-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
but even that isn't premeditated murder


[07-Dec-18 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
robbing doesnt require killing so i dont see hwo that's premeditated murder


[07-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
>Prosecutors at that hearing said Brown killed Allan to rob him, not to defend herself.


[07-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/International/paris-braces-day-violence-eiffel-tower-museums-plan/story?id=59675114

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Paris braces for another day of violence as Eiffel Tower, museums ...
Some of Paris most famous tourist sites will shut down.
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[07-Dec-18 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so not a super great vacation spot right now


[07-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/07/674516992/oil-prices-jump-after-opec-agrees-to-bigger-than-expected-production-cut

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Oil Prices Jump After OPEC Agrees To Bigger-Than-Expected Producti...
Ignoring pressure from President Trump to keep the oil flowing, OPEC, Russia and other producers have agreed to cut production. They hope to stem a 30 percent drop in oil prices in recent weeks.
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[07-Dec-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this good?


[07-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
higher gas prices


[07-Dec-18 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so no?


[07-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good for lowering carbon emissions


[07-Dec-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good for the environment, bad for wallets


[07-Dec-18 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
higher oil prices are better for big oil companies, worse for everyone else


[07-Dec-18 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
better for the environment though


[07-Dec-18 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8

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[07-Dec-18 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
Yes it's from september but I was putting it off


[07-Dec-18 09:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--Fa8_ujBA

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The Truth About 90s Cartoons And "LGBT Brainwashing"
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[07-Dec-18 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://pilotonline.com/news/nation-world/virginia/article_6e03c9ff-4b3a-5274-b517-a1fea2ee98f7.html

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Virginia files lawsuit against Mountain Valley Pipeline
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia's attorney general and its Department of Environmental Quality have filed a lawsuit against the Mountain Valley Pipeline for what they call repeated environmental violations.
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[07-Dec-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-06/gary-cohn-s-private-comments-blasted-by-freshman-house-democrat


[07-Dec-18 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GszBA33SWQ

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The NPC Game
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[07-Dec-18 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
The big wave of "ha, you disagree wit me, this means you're NPC! ha, you take offense at me calling you a not thinking and human character when it's only the meme means your can't take joke and Left Can't Meme!" died out, thankfully, but it touches on the deeper issue of " hee hee, I am not outright stating something or am omissing it, this means I am imune to your toattaly baseless acusations!"


[07-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/7/18128926/william-barr-trump-nomination-attorney-general-jeff-sessions

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Attorney general nominee William Barr will fit right in with Trump...
As George H.W. Bush’s attorney general, Barr built border barriers and turned away asylum seekers.
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[07-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So this guy was HW Bush's guy on making sure brown people couldn't enter the US legally and stirring up fears when they consequently did it illegally


[07-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
and of course tossed Haitians bakk to Haiti to be killed because they were brown and technically not in the US yet


[07-Dec-18 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
And now some Brazil from a German guy who lived in Brazil for some years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrUXs-5Ins4


[07-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is gonna hav him be the top dog on prosecution, so you can bet your ass there'll be immigrants convicted of whatever shit they can dredge up on 'em.


[07-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for a harder, less gentle kind of law enforcement?


[07-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Nile#1441
I am


[07-Dec-18 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is actually wrong with open borders?


[07-Dec-18 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
evil immigrants committing a crime by crossing the border illegally and thus are dangerous criminals that are both a drain on the welfare system and thieves who steal high-paying jobs from hardworking americans


[07-Dec-18 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
/s


[07-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
one of the more recent one's I've heard is that illegal immigrants are able to work for no taxes and collect welfare from "sanctuary" cities/states simultaneously due to not social security numbers


[08-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking nationalists believe that all law and order stems from borders


[08-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That if you don't strictly control *who* is in your country, it renders your entire country's existence invalid.


[08-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is, of course, complete and utter bullshit.


[08-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
People use "law and order" as a smokescreen for "keep my people/culture/race on top with the law"


[08-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, it makes sense if you believe the state stems from a particular group being on top.


[08-Dec-18 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So like what is international law then


[08-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
A violation of the nation's sovereignty, according to them.


[08-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is as follows:


[08-Dec-18 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
1: A nation is formed from a cultural-ethnic group
2: Contamination of that group thus degrades the validity of the nation
3: Some amount of contaminants (different groups) is acceptable for various purposes
4: Borders allow cutting off the nation's area to include as little contaminants as possible, and to restrict entrance of contaminants
5: Strict controls on borders maximize their effect
6: Violations of these strict controls threaten not only the validity of the nation via contamination, but the nation's authority itself


[08-Dec-18 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
International law is a challenge to the nation's authority to prevent contamination, and thus immoral etc., @Itsthinking


[08-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Calm down Antonin.


[08-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel bad for the people who go to the school they named after him


[08-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Antonin Scalia School of Law


[08-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie is this why pointing out how multiethnic Rome was is bad to them


[08-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes people do call it ASS Law


[08-Dec-18 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[08-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rome is seen as invalid as a nation because it came to be too big, encompassing groups that weren't part of "Heaven"


[08-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A nationalist will see this as the cause for Rome's decline


[08-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
same for the Mongols etc.


[08-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this is why they generally don't advocate for world domination


[08-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
because even tho the nation would be more powerful, it would hav so much contamination that the core group would be outnumbered, and thus it would be an entirely different nation, if one at all.


[08-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AWAKENED MODE BLADE RIG#1199
i just came to say this: i am glad you guys decided to make a containement sub chat for your obbession with politics.


[08-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AWAKENED MODE BLADE RIG#1199
:twismug:


[08-Dec-18 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1071195161902886912

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https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1071195161902886912
lol wtf is happening with the right wing
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[08-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, maybe the Wall-E "FOREIGN CONTAMINANT" thing would make for some interesting political memes relating to this.


[08-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
So this


[08-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
is how it feels


[08-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
to live in a society


[08-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ByboTM8MQ

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Reena Kauert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ByboTM8MQ
France - Yellow Jacket protests - People chant "We Want Trump"
Macron lectured the world on "nationalism". France has a broken tax system, immigration system, and a oppressive bureaucracy. President Trump warned about th...
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[08-Dec-18 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Litrojia

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[08-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't realize how much paris looked like london until I watched that video


[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1069811169010089984

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There are riots in socialist France because of radical leftist fuel taxes

Media barely mentioning this

America is booming, Europe is burning 

They want to cover up the middle class rebellion against cultural Marxism

“We want Trump” being chanted through the streets...
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[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many more times do the French need the Germans to blitz before they learn nationalism doesn't work


[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Litrojia#0612
European cities all have those kinda buildings. Buses too I guess


[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
I'm being sarcastic


[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
that video was from a year a go in london


[08-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
people are using that video as a source for "yellow jacket protesters" chanting "we want trump"


[08-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
No surprise from the right-wing content mill


[08-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
the police in that video are wearing english police uniforms


[08-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Repurpose old shit for new issues.


[08-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
Oh I'm just a dumbass


[08-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like literally everybody is claiming that the protesters are on their side


[08-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
that the protests are against globalism, that the protesters are nationalists, that the protests are against socialism, etc


[08-Dec-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well the protest kind of covers about everyone on the spectrum.


[08-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
You got communists burning royalist flags and fascists out flying their fashy euro flags.


[08-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Liberals who are, "we are mildly upset"


[08-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Le Pen has tried to cultivate support from them, and Melenchon has visited the protests personally.


[08-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=070KjhsJV2Y

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Landmarks defaced as protests continue in France | Money Talks
French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe has held talks with French opposition leaders, to try to find cross-party consensus to defuse widespread anger and dis...
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[08-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
look at the comments on this one


[08-Dec-18 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JLMelenchon/status/1068882041800921088

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A #Marseille à la triple marche : gilets jaunes, syndicats, marche de la colère contre le logement insalubre ! #GiletsJaunes #StopMacron #LogementIndigne #1erDecembre
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[08-Dec-18 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Melenchon with Yellow Vests in Marseille


[08-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
idk who melenchon is


[08-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
socialist?


[08-Dec-18 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
The communist president who broke from the communist party for drifting too far to the right, I think.


[08-Dec-18 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_eNj8APrVI

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[08-Dec-18 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
As far as I've learned, he's kind of got a reputation like Ron Paul here in the states, not that his policies are unpopular but he's tried running several times over and over.


[08-Dec-18 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's come in third, or a close third in the last election.


[08-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melenchon

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[08-Dec-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GLfrQhZ8XI

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Vivre Libre ou Mourir
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[08-Dec-18 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/12/william-barr-jeff-sessions-new-attorney-general.html

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William Barr Is Jeff Sessions Without the Baggage
It’s easy to see why Donald Trump nominated William Barr to serve as the next attorney general of the United States.
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[08-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Arvid#8335
Alternative medicine should be banned


[08-Dec-18 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd hurt native americans a bit, tbqh


[08-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Arvid#8335
I don't think most native americans use alternative medicine.


[08-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Arvid#8335
I do think some white people use Native american culture to sell psuedoscientific products.


[08-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Native "medicine" usually involves dancing and smoking tobacco


[08-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't heavily rely on weird chemicals.


[08-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Arvid#8335
Alternative medicine is a scam.


[08-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Arvid#8335
It can even kill people


[08-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Arvid#8335
Homeopathy and crystal healing for example


[08-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Arvid#8335
If people try to use alternative medicine to treat diseases that can be deadly, ugh.


[08-Dec-18 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Today I learned victims of rape pay on average - with insurance - about 900$


[08-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
for what?


[08-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
medical bills?


[08-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
also I just got around to listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeKEVRKEoms

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Transvaluation of All Values: You Are Not A Slave
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[08-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, who exactly is this guy? iirc you linked it


[08-Dec-18 06:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/york-hospitals-repay-victims-charged-rape-kits-59508575

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New York hospitals to repay victims charged for rape kits
Six New York hospitals have agreed to repay sexual assault victims who were illegally charged as much as $3,000 for rape examinations that should've been billed to the state or their insurers, Attorney General Barbara Underwood said Thursday. The hospitals — five in New Yor...


[08-Dec-18 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a bunch of new york hospitals have been charging victims of rape $3000 per rape kit and sending collectors after those who can;t afford it


[08-Dec-18 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultra capitalism


[08-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
where you hav to pay money to get evidence of being raped


[08-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
wow https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1070706084443238400

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Michael Avenatti destroyed in California family court: ordered to pay $124,000 in alimony PER MONTH.
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[08-Dec-18 06:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is avenatti?


[08-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
he was the lawyer representing stormy daniels


[08-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
he has to pay $37,897 + $124,398 per month


[08-Dec-18 06:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[08-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
the $37k for child support and the $124k for "spousal support"


[08-Dec-18 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
which is an absurdly retarded amount


[08-Dec-18 06:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok i get the child support but what the crpa is "spousal support"?


[08-Dec-18 06:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/12/the-internet-reacts-to-australias-anti-encryption-bill/

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[08-Dec-18 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jurassic_snark_/status/1070130066636529664

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very legal & very cool (@jurassic_snark_)
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Labor: ‘We want to make sure we do what is needed here.’ 
Voters: ‘Oppose the encryption laws.’ 
Lawyers: ‘Oppose the encryption laws.’ 
Supporters: ‘Oppose the encryption laws.’ 
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[08-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spousal support is like "you were the breadwinner before so now you still hav to giv some dough up for a while so your spouse isn't screwed"


[08-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes like no sense for people at this wealth level tho


[08-Dec-18 06:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Wes Cecil, a professor over in the Seattle area


[08-Dec-18 07:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both of thme look loaded as fuck so yeah, no


[08-Dec-18 07:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spousal support doesnt make much sense here


[08-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I've only listened to the first 26 minutes, but that first part of freeing yourself from others' definitions of value is something that I realize I've sort of done on my own, but it's also something that doesn't really have much meaning when everyone else is putting so much value on things you don't really care for


[08-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter if you know that ultimately, money is meaningless when there's literally billions of people on the planet who would kill you with no thought for a few thousand bucks


[08-Dec-18 07:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Well we live in a society so we're to be default operate on the basic assumption of what the current legal and social norms of what economic value is, even of as a student economist friend of mine has told me, even economists don't agree as to what value is. But the fact of you might believe in something else entirely can be used in one aspect of say, building a political ideology or having that on heart to search one out. Marx disagreed fundamentally that value in a commodity was determined by supply and demand, at least not explicitly, but the amount of labor that went into it as a commodity; whatever is used in exchange for that commodity is its exchange. More simply one could use the arbitrary notion of economic value in support of someone like Peter Kropotkin, where in the understanding of labor makes value but in full rejection of money one could just say any positive or additive work done for the community over four hours (or less now, perhaps) grants to you anything and everything you need to cover your basics, anything you like is derived from activities/labor you like.


[08-Dec-18 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
so basically instead of having supply/demand determine value, a better system seems more like the effort that goes into making a product, whatever that product is, but we already sort of do that (automation has made many products much cheaper)


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Companies will force things that aren't actually wanted because sunk cost fallacy


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just remove all alternatives.


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
the problem starts when you have things where companies start charging much more than the actual value of the product (like with medicine)


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of a video I watched on modern music


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
and why it's bad


[08-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
but companies force us to like it


[08-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII

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[08-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People will start eating food made of literal garbage if you (1) take away the non garbage food and (2) say how green you are for eliminating food waste


[08-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or better yet, charge way more for non garbage food


[08-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burger made of "recycled" burgers is 4x cheaper


[08-Dec-18 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, this is the part talking about how record labels make us "like" their music <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII&t=837>


[08-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
mainly comes down to how stupidly expensive it is nowadays to take on a new artist


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eh this is nothing new


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
basically, it used to be the consumers who were in charge of who "makes it" as a music artist


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
now it's the companies


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
hmmmmmmmmm


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
seems familiar


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Welcome to 1942.


[08-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Take your ration card and buy war bonds.


[08-Dec-18 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why online music creators have become mroe popular in recent times


[08-Dec-18 07:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow The thing is under Marxian determination of value is that it's also to help shine a light on how workers making a thing are not being paid in proportion to the value they produce. Wages are naturally below the value of their labor time, the rest is used as profit.


[08-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071177621445230596

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Totally clears the President. Thank you!
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[08-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
I think he's finally lost it


[08-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
his veneer of coherence is gone


[08-Dec-18 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/felony-sarah-huckabee-sanders-unwittingly-confesses-that-donald-trump-directed-a-felony-trump-criminal/14582/

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[08-Dec-18 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
In other words, Huckabee Sanders – who officially speaks for Donald Trump – just admitted that the criminal accusations made against Trump by the SDNY are accurate. It’s not as if this is going to carry any legal weight, unless it can be proven that this statement was actually written by Trump and his legal team. But in the court of public opinion, this is a disaster for Team Trump.


[08-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C_BubeBU8E

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[08-Dec-18 11:33 AM] moonatik#3676
crow that thoughty2 video is garbage lol


[08-Dec-18 11:35 AM] moonatik#3676
https://youtu.be/VfNdps0daF8

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[08-Dec-18 11:37 AM] moonatik#3676
TL;DR metrics like timbre is not an effective way to measure "musical quality" and such, and the sample size for the songs over time is far too small to be representative


[08-Dec-18 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/house-democrats-nancy-pelosi-waste-no-time-announce-bill-tackling-ncna945546

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[08-Dec-18 12:08 PM] Cyan Lightning#5068
Also about that video with Thoughty2 about music, I have to say that he only refer to pop music, which you know the on that one that make it to 100 billboard, which I have say when I listen to those music at least from 2015-2018. Those are quite repetitive and just overly simple. Though I do agree that 100 billboard music today well "Bad" or maybe the correct word is simple and repetitive. Also the thing about timbre and such is more of the complexity of music, which is by like group of P@D and other brony music community as the benchmark for the quality of music.  But yeah, his sample size is very small and just forgot about the lesser know artists that doesn't make it to 100 billboard.


[08-Dec-18 01:19 PM] moonatik#3676
I hate modern pop music but I can still acknowledge that stuff like this is subjective


[08-Dec-18 01:20 PM] moonatik#3676
and I wouldn't go out of my way to "prove" that a song that someone else likes is terrible


[08-Dec-18 01:29 PM] moonatik#3676
more or less id rather explain why I don't like it


[08-Dec-18 01:29 PM] Cyan Lightning#5068
Yeah, I honestly don't like calling it "Bad", but rather I just called it "very simplistic music" instead of "bad" and clearly there are an audience for this kind of music. Though there few modern pop music that like, mostly nostalgia factor. But yeah I do think that, try to "prove" that someone else likes is "bad" is just well... Ridiculous


[08-Dec-18 01:30 PM] moonatik#3676
though it is slightly hypocritical of me to say that because I get enraged whenever someone says they like nickelback


[08-Dec-18 01:30 PM] moonatik#3676
lol


[08-Dec-18 02:48 PM] Electron#4561
I can like Nickelback without your blessing, thank you.


[08-Dec-18 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i liek afew nickel back songs, almost a dime of them if you will


[08-Dec-18 04:53 PM] moonatik#3676

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[08-Dec-18 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Dec-18 06:50 PM] DevField#5162
This is wonderful.


[08-Dec-18 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hungary-protest-idUSKBN1O70FM

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Hungarians protest against 'slave law' overtime rules
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[08-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/8/18131757/trump-france-riots-paris-agreement

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Trump tweeted that protesters are chanting "We Want Trump!"
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[08-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
dumb


[08-Dec-18 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have chanted no such thing...


[08-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
trump's even bought into the whole "we want trump" fake news


[08-Dec-18 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://non-gmoreport.com/articles/scientists-ground-breaking-research-uncovers-new-risks-gmos-glyphosate/

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[08-Dec-18 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/business/monsantos-sway-over-research-is-seen-in-disclosed-emails.html

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Documents released in a lawsuit against the company raised new questions about its efforts to influence the news media and scientific research.
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[08-Dec-18 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/toxic-tort-law/monsanto-roundup-lawsuit/monsanto-secret-documents/

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Monsanto Papers | Declassified Secret Documents
The Monsanto Papers: catalog of all declassified Monsanto secret documents detailing ghostwriting, scientific manipulation, EPA collusion. Updated 10/5/17
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[08-Dec-18 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/monsanto-paid-internet-trolls/

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Monsanto Paid Internet Trolls to Counter Bad Publicity
New court documents in the Roundup litigation allege Monsanto paid internet trolls to post comments on social media to counter bad publicity. Details here.
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[08-Dec-18 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
that first one about GMO foods sounds taken out of context


[08-Dec-18 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
it says "not substantially equivalent", which doesn't mean "not safe to eat"


[08-Dec-18 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
the part where it says "not safe to eat in large amounts" sounds taken out of context too


[08-Dec-18 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
first of all, we don't know "how much" is too much, second of all, after looking around a bit, we don't even know if those chemicals are toxic for sure or not


[08-Dec-18 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
oh, that thing's over a year old lol


[08-Dec-18 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/12/08/trump-no-collusion-russia-mueller-1052222


[08-Dec-18 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/ghkwIy4.jpg

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[08-Dec-18 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's logic is confusing


[08-Dec-18 08:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well it could be


[08-Dec-18 08:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
if Trump basically sold out his campaign manager and attorney to cover up his shit


[08-Dec-18 08:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but otherwise still confusing af


[08-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/08/john-kelly-out-donald-trump-chief-staff/339220002/

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[08-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He directed his attorney to commit a crime lol


[08-Dec-18 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he directed him to commit many crimes probably


[08-Dec-18 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think trump knows what laws are only that they exist to impede his cash flow


[08-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://youtu.be/GdaKCTzqPaw

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[08-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congressional Review Act is retarded tbh


[08-Dec-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's supposed to go "no, Executive, that's not what the legislation was intended for, please undo that last action", but in practice it just means that there's a way for the president's party to rubberstamp things that clearly go against the facts to try to bypass Judicial oversight.


[08-Dec-18 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The other party can't really get past a presidential veto without overwhelming support


[08-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We desperately need an amendment to neuter the executive branch.


[08-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We have for decades.


[08-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
ironically, that's the excuse that the wisconsin legislature used to take away power from the incoming democratic governor and attorney general


[08-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
that the executive branch had "too much power"


[08-Dec-18 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
completely ignoring that it's being done by a single party ramming it through via an all-night session


[08-Dec-18 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
specifically to prevent the incoming governor from fulfilling his campaign promises


[08-Dec-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the legislative is a problem too


[08-Dec-18 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the big issue is


[08-Dec-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the elected officials are corrupt


[08-Dec-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
because America has always required you be rich to run for office


[08-Dec-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi's reform bill won't fix that


[08-Dec-18 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it'll just channel more public money to people who already hav the money to get money from individuals


[08-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich hav made up the vast majority of politicians in America for America's entire history.


[08-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, on top of that, parties control which rich bitch can run


[08-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
And parties hav recently gotten out of control


[08-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(mostly because of the Republicans, but the Democrats are still trying to catch up to be just as corrupt)


[08-Dec-18 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huey Long was right.


[08-Dec-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Dec-18 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, reelection is pretty much a sham


[08-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so little does the challenger win that it's basically not worth it


[08-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
you could just wait until senators die and things wouldn't really be different


[08-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but term limits make parties more powerful


[08-Dec-18 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, I think our Democracy may be a little too indirect


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President should have basically no free speech rights at all.


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least, hyper limited.


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More than any other person.


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's the issue


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President should not be able to criticize private individuals or companies


[08-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's tweets are completely irrelevant


[08-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an aside


[08-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's incredibly minor


[08-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not debating that it isn't


[08-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that's *an* issue is like saying we need to curb geese farts


[08-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The president's speech isn't that impactful and curbing it has logistical issues


[08-Dec-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not if you strip the Cold War era absolutist presidency down.


[08-Dec-18 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to prevent or stem the damage from a Trump, you need better legislation and a strongly independent Judiciary.


[08-Dec-18 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the ultimate problem


[08-Dec-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
IMO, the Senate should nominate judges, and the House should confirm


[08-Dec-18 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How are EOs not basically rule by decree?


[08-Dec-18 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly ignorant


[08-Dec-18 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
President should not be able to put in place those who determine whether he's breaking the law


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President shouldn't have a check on the judiciary that has any real power


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, you need *something* to turn the law into actual instructions


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why EOs exist to begin with


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is now the instructions are basically "ignore this law"


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary is supposed to stop that


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's reluctant to


[08-Dec-18 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the conservatives hav put in place friendly judges for years


[08-Dec-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, impeachment is way too damn hard


[08-Dec-18 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Altho that's really a problem from the party system too


[08-Dec-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you hav two parties, even if one had 70% of Americans, it's likely to end up with a 60-40 split or worse


[08-Dec-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the minority party can always weasel in some way to nearly even itself out with the majority


[08-Dec-18 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe a parliamentary system would be best


[08-Dec-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
simply having only 2 choices leads to ways to revert to a coin flip


[08-Dec-18 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[08-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing about Congress vs. Parliament is relevant to this


[08-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Parliaments generally giv MORE power to parties, in fact


[08-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is the way we elect


[08-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The law ingrains party control of primaries


[08-Dec-18 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you aren't in a primary, or you lose a primary, you basically can't run in the general


[08-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So anyway, what do you think about the new court filings?


[08-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which ones?


[08-Dec-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, states being able to set laws for elections to national offices is retarded


[08-Dec-18 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't win as a third party when you aren't allowed on the ballot in some states


[08-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, anti-federalism ends up creating scenarios where only the majority can prevail nationwide, because individual states will mess things up for the minority


[08-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The ones with "person 1"


[08-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So ironically


[08-Dec-18 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
anti-federalism leads to tyranny by the majority


[08-Dec-18 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Divide and conquer.


[08-Dec-18 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The same people who talk about how socialism and communism failed and it's stupid to keep trying


[08-Dec-18 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Want states rights or fascism back


[08-Dec-18 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
US tried the first twice and many states tried the latter. Neither work


[08-Dec-18 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah and the court filings said Cohen worked with Russians in late 2015 who promised Trump political "synergy"


[08-Dec-18 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would be screwed if his party didn't hav 53 seats


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
But like, if parties didn't control getting on the ballot and having any recognition at all


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's party wouldn't hav 53 seats


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
as-is, impeachment can't happen


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People still trying to say this wasn't a wave election tho


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
neither party can ever impeach the other without like 80% of the popular vote


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
not anymore


[08-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not going to be three or four Republicans with a spine?


[08-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh there will be but


[08-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
47 Dems and 3 Republicans is not 66


[08-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
On a removal vote?


[08-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yea


[08-Dec-18 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll pretty much be Flake, Lee, Collins, and Murkowski voting with Dems and everyone else going "It's not breaking the law to obstruct justice and commit treason."


[08-Dec-18 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Blowjob perjury was impeachable and arguably removable


[08-Dec-18 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not obstruction and treason


[08-Dec-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to partisanism


[08-Dec-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything to hold onto power


[08-Dec-18 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if it means sacrificing literally everything you hold


[08-Dec-18 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the party will vote for whatever keeps the power and money flowing


[08-Dec-18 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump is the key to stayign in power they will glue him into the oval office with bolts and nails if thye have to


[08-Dec-18 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i;m having a mental image of a swarm of republican congresssmen mobbign the president;s oval office and nailing him to his president chair by his ill fittign suit like it's the cross


[08-Dec-18 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
impeachment being a matter of voting is rather broken


[08-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, conservatism https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/02/larry-mcdonald-communists-deep-state-222726

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/02/larry-mcdonald-communists-deep-state-222726
The Congressman Who Created His Own Deep State. Really.
When he feared communists were infiltrating America, Larry McDonald took extreme measures — building his own intelligence-gathering arm.
https://static.politico.com/bc/03/17152442406893711978acac848e/lede.jpg


[08-Dec-18 10:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
sounds like a commie spy


[08-Dec-18 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, there once was a guy who thought McCarthy didn't go far enuff and rounded up all the information he could on leftists by taking advantage of those who weren't fond of laws saying they had to get rid of unconstitutional surveillance info


[08-Dec-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
he even fed Ronald Reagon BS to say to the public about commie conspiracies


[08-Dec-18 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then, by chance, he ended up on the plane that strayed into Russian airspace and got blown up


[08-Dec-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, bad lukk and a lakk of civilian GPS > any conspiracy


[08-Dec-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was on KAL 007?


[08-Dec-18 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[08-Dec-18 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Got 'em


[08-Dec-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/420177-senate-edges-closer-to-rebuking-trump-on-saudi-arabia

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/420177-senate-edges-closer-to-rebuking-trump-on-saudi-arabia
Senate edges closer to rebuking Trump on Saudi Arabia
Senators are closing in on a deal to defy President Trump on Saudi Arabia, as support grows for tougher action over the killing of U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/saudiarabia_120618getty.jpg


[08-Dec-18 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/12/08/vp-mike-pence-on-social-security-everything-has-to.aspx

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https://www.fool.com/retirement/2018/12/08/vp-mike-pence-on-social-security-everything-has-to.aspx
VP Mike Pence on Social Security:
Would Pence really cut Social Security benefits if given the opportunity?
https://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/503387/36120922702_a3b4a678bd_o.jpg


[08-Dec-18 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
@moonatik, got around to watching <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNdps0daF8>, he doesn't mention the part of the thoughty2 video I linked talking about how record labels basically "force" people to like modern music instead of letting listeners decide for themselves


[09-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674927006/police-deploy-armored-vehicles-tear-gas-against-paris-protesters-detain-hundreds

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https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674927006/police-deploy-armored-vehicles-tear-gas-against-paris-protesters-detain-hundreds
Police Deploy Armored Vehicles, Tear Gas Against Paris Protesters;...
Protesters took to the streets of the French capital on Saturday in the fourth demonstration since unrest began in November.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/12/08/gettyimages-1069754676_wide-35d57137382f38b8cbea6b17701398f3ea3a6624.jpg?s=1400


[09-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is probably the worst civil unrest in France since...


[09-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fifty years ago.


[09-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
at this point, it seems like trying to suppress them is making it even worse


[09-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
since all he did was try to put a bandaid over a gaping wound


[09-Dec-18 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Bring back the guillotine


[09-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
now all we need is someone close to him to say "let them eat cake"


[09-Dec-18 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"let's throw tear gass at the angry wasps nest"


[09-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
smoke actually calms angry flying insects down


[09-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
humans are much worse


[09-Dec-18 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah my analogy is kind of broke there


[09-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.axios.com/president-trump-points-to-paris-agreement-as-riots-continue-in-france-6397f53a-ba60-4a84-9e8e-4f03581aa3ef.html

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https://www.axios.com/president-trump-points-to-paris-agreement-as-riots-continue-in-france-6397f53a-ba60-4a84-9e8e-4f03581aa3ef.html
Trump inaccurately blames Paris Agreement as riots continue in France
"The Paris Agreement isn’t working out so well for Paris."
https://images.axios.com/FOWxSxrF12QX5xDGI3cdBEcq14g=/9x0:548x303/1920x1080/2018/12/08/1544274458132.png


[09-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[09-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nile#1441
France is lame


[09-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
ur lame


[09-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Nile#1441
No u


[09-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no u x infinity


[09-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAe8mxvV1fU

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Frank Sharp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAe8mxvV1fU
Classroom Evacuated Because Student is Wearing MAGA Hat
I am the person filming. I am not the person wearing the hat. I filmed this. If you want want me to take it down ask me. No hate speech/release of personal i...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lAe8mxvV1fU/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[09-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
"As far as I understand other kids were wearing "resist" hats and the teacher didn't have a problem with those. As much as I dislike trump and the whole MAGA thing, either make a blank rule "no hats in class" or allow this kid to wear his hat..."


[09-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8

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Jack Saint / LackingSaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8
Sky High: Disney's Fascist Eugenics Movie
Enjoy the vid? Support at https://www.patreon.com/jacksaint WEEKLY VIDS ⭐ LIKE + SUBSCRIBE ⭐ HIT THE BELL While seemingly a much-despised and unappealing ide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iIdbLUm-ez8/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://intercontinentalcry.org/canadas-coerced-sterilization-of-first-nations-women/

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Courtney Parker
https://intercontinentalcry.org/canadas-coerced-sterilization-of-first-nations-women/
An Act of Genocide: Canada's Coerced Sterilization of First Nation...
Canada's role in the forced and coerced sterilization of Indigenous women has only recently begun to emerge within a more complete and historical context. Now, a new Saskatchewan lawsuit opens another chapter to this shocking legacy, garnering at least 60 additional reports.
https://intercontinentalcry.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/an-act-of-genocide-1900x1069.png


[09-Dec-18 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
We kind of did that here in America too.


[09-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
As researchers continue to dig through historical records to examine the extent to which First Nations women were sterilized without their informed consent since confederation, a new Saskatchewan lawsuit has opened another chapter to this shocking legacy, garnering at least 60 additional reports in its wake—at least one verified case occurring as recent as 2017.


[09-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
the difference is that it stopped in the 70's


[09-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
most recent case in canada was 2017


[09-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
They were taking native kids from their families and putting them with white families to "civilize" thrm


[09-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I thought this video was pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8

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Jack Saint / LackingSaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8
Sky High: Disney's Fascist Eugenics Movie
Enjoy the vid? Support at https://www.patreon.com/jacksaint WEEKLY VIDS ⭐ LIKE + SUBSCRIBE ⭐ HIT THE BELL While seemingly a much-despised and unappealing ide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iIdbLUm-ez8/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateFascism/comments/4i4su7/would_you_call_fascism_collectivist/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateFascism/comments/4i4su7/would_you_call_fascism_collectivist/
r/DebateFascism - Would you call fascism collectivist?
6 votes and 35 comments so far on Reddit


[09-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
"Fascism is actually a great example of how the left and right dichotomy is really just unuseful, and that it often obfuscates as much as it elucidates."


[09-Dec-18 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/12/07/bloomberg-shut-bloombergs-political-coverage-run-president/

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Ed Morrissey
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/12/07/bloomberg-shut-bloombergs-political-coverage-run-president/
Bloomberg: I could shut down Bloomberg News' political coverage if...
“Quite honestly, I don’t want all the reporters I’m paying to write a bad story about me."
https://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/bloomberg-mda.jpeg


[09-Dec-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
he'd probably sell it before he'd shut down a specific section of it


[09-Dec-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
since even business news might be a conflict of interest


[09-Dec-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
and bloomberg is first and foremost a business news company


[09-Dec-18 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
how good was michael bloomberg as a mayor?


[09-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it makes sense


[09-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
I still don't get what people mean when they say they want a ban on "assault weapons"


[09-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
the term is nonsensical


[09-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
it seems to be more rooted in feelings than fact


[09-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
the general consensus seems to be a pistol grip and scary carbon fiber casing


[09-Dec-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about rate of fire


[09-Dec-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They mean semi-autos


[09-Dec-18 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which are conflated with "assault rifles" because assault rifles are generally semi-auto


[09-Dec-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This misses certain handguns, which are semi-auto


[09-Dec-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
A proper ban targets semi-automatic weapons, not "assault" weapons.


[09-Dec-18 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never expect people asking for a ban on something they do not want to exist and probably don't hav experience with to get the precise terminology right


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
what word you use to describe it is a red herring


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think a ban on guns is right at all, we actually have the potential for a very amazing "citizens have guns without everyone shooting everyone else up" system


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the actual substance of the argument is about rate of fire capabilities (and range)


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that potential is unrealistic to achieve.


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMY_SUuobww

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Zoop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMY_SUuobww
No full auto in buildings
Credit: @orangecountyairsoft source: https://youtu.be/PlPniwWpbuE
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MMY_SUuobww/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
but the NRA's bullheadedness prevents any sort of actual sane efficient background check system to be implemented


[09-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places with high gun ownership usually hav lots of military training that makes those guns safer


[09-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Letting just any old average joe get an assault rifle with 0 training leads to bad things


[09-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, what little training there is tends to be lax and NRA-ran


[09-Dec-18 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel like a bit of military training should be mandatory on a national level, not to the point of going through the whole breaking people down and rebuilding them as killing machines, but basic fitness and gun handling


[09-Dec-18 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
and basic discipline


[09-Dec-18 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk with doing that with the US population.


[09-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of a fanfic I read in which royal guard ponies have to be friends with a stuffed bunny and then kill it at the end of their training


[09-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
which itself is from a movie iirc, only with an actual rabbit


[09-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
basically people in some spec ops group or other specialized military group were given baby rabbits to care for and name, with the idea that they get attached


[09-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
and then at the end of training after x amount of weeks, they have to kill it to complete the training


[09-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
That's a part of SERE training


[09-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, it was something in the RAF iirc


[09-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Though I don't think they ask you to name it, or anything they just want you to know how to kill and clean game animals


[09-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, there's a difference between raising a rabbit and becoming friends with it and killing it for food


[09-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
the idea was to make perfect killers


[09-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
if you can kill your friend, you can kill anybody


[09-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno about RAF but SERE is only like 20 days maybe a month I think rabbits take longer than that to grow up


[09-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I remember reading an article a few years ago about the high school I went to; a year or two before I arrived, the US army came and gave shooting demonstrations with realistic weapons in the quad using air compressors to simulate real recoil and gave prizes for accurate shooting (I assume it was something similar to airsoft)


[09-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
and parents were livid


[09-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
also apparently there's a law that the army didn't know about that made it illegal to bring any gun, whether it's a prop or a water gun, onto campus


[09-Dec-18 07:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
break the law! 🔫


[09-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
the principal didn't really understand what they were going to do and gave his permission for the event at the last minute at the request of a former student


[09-Dec-18 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
he thought it was just gonna be video games and choreographed stuff


[09-Dec-18 07:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Reminds me of that kid that ate his bread into the shape of a gun and got sent home.


[09-Dec-18 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
also the recruiters were gathering names, phone numbers, addresses, and social security numbers, even from students too young to sign up, and sometimes aggressively


[09-Dec-18 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
saying to the students too young that they'd be in touch when they were old enough


[09-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military is very aggressive about that stuff


[09-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr there's too many people who would hate the idea of a nationwide scale effort to teach every young citizen proper gun usage, fitness, and basic discipline


[09-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your best bet when they show up anywhere is to not even talk to them.


[09-Dec-18 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA
The collapse of Venezuela, explained
The country is in chaos, but its leaders aren't going anywhere. Correction at 1:58: It’s been brought to our notice that the Supreme Court tried to strip the...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S1gUR8wM5vA/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 07:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/local-lawmakers-weigh-in-on-potential-pay-raises/1647033341

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https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/local-lawmakers-weigh-in-on-potential-pay-raises/1647033341
Local lawmakers weigh in on potential pay raises
New York State lawmakers are set to get their first pay raise in 20 years, but at least one local legislator is pushing back.
https://media.wivb.com/nxs-wivbtv-media-us-east-1/photo/2018/12/08/pastedImage_1544290144581_64595683_ver1.0_1280_720.png


[09-Dec-18 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow towards the end of the Sky High vid, it veers into fallacy talking about Hillary vs. Trump


[09-Dec-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it equates eugenics to identifying the motives behind voters preferring Trump


[09-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
imo the biggest point that that video makes is how obsessed western media is with blood heritage and "eugenic storytelling"


[09-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
the political stuff is meh


[09-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of accurately going on about how this influences current politics, it ends up being BOO DON'T CALL REDNEKKS STUPID RACISTS


[09-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lovely how stupid people get about Hillary v. Trump


[09-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, in a way hillary's campaign basically said it boiled down to "stupid hicks"


[09-Dec-18 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Stupid hicks are the problem with this country


[09-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes, but that's not the point


[09-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
his argument is calling them stupid is based on their ancestry


[09-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
When usually *why* they're stupid isn't even discussed.


[09-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
"You need only look to the reaction to a revelation that a Star Wars Jedi's prowess might not be tied to genetic heritage to see how attached the West is to eugenic storytelling."


[09-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had a point there


[09-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
sadly he forgot to go any further on it in the latter half


[09-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He should've gone on about the tendency of western media to *appear* to subvert the heritage thing only to reverse course late in


[09-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
like "oh surprise you really were the chosen one whoops"


[09-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fairly common


[09-Dec-18 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8&t=626

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Jack Saint / LackingSaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8&t=626
Sky High: Disney's Fascist Eugenics Movie
Enjoy the vid? Support at https://www.patreon.com/jacksaint WEEKLY VIDS ⭐ LIKE + SUBSCRIBE ⭐ HIT THE BELL While seemingly a much-despised and unappealing ide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iIdbLUm-ez8/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Dec-18 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
part that touched on the US's lowkey obsession with eugenics


[09-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's nothing to do with Manifest Destiny, actually


[09-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eugenics was obsessed over in Europe too


[09-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just from this whole thing with conflating civilizational differences with racial ones


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
I think he means in post-ww2 times


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, brown people raised with mud huts and subsistence farming, white people raised with fancy cars and industrial agriculture, the white people are much smarter


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure eugenics died a painful and bloody death in europe after ww2


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
the world didn't flip a switch and become industrial


[09-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
some places still hav subsistence farming


[09-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
but it still went on in the US because they were pretty separated from its horrors


[09-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The West feels that whites are superior because of the greater achievements its societies hav made


[09-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and conflates that with ancestry


[09-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Manifest Destiny itself is another symptom of this


[09-Dec-18 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's easy when you're the one with the knowledge and guns to say that "oh I'm just born better"


[09-Dec-18 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, from a certain perspective (luck), people are born better lol


[09-Dec-18 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, both ways citizenship is normally granted are based around the idea of circumstances of birth mattering hugely


[09-Dec-18 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
jus sanguinis citizenship, who your parents are matters


[09-Dec-18 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
jus soli, where you're born matters


[09-Dec-18 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The West is obsessed with the idea that the circumstances of your birth are what separate you from the rest of the world


[09-Dec-18 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's literally written into the laws.


[09-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not just a technical distinction to prevent applying jurisdiction to other countries


[09-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were, we would accept immigrants with open arms


[09-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if someone explicitly wants to transfer jurisdictions, we still don't readily accept them


[09-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the circumstances of their birth are used as a reason to keep them out.


[09-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even were they a perfect straight A student who knows English better than the president and thinks the bill of rights is the best thing in history.


[09-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
tbh a lot of the heritage parts have been supplanted by money


[09-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just being white instead of brown will get you a lot further in immigration.


[09-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
but that's mostly because way back when, the only real way to get money was to be born into it


[09-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That remains the case.


[09-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social mobility is practically a lie


[09-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
social mobility is still up compared to the 1700s though


[09-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not by much.


[09-Dec-18 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
it just requires basically throwing out every moral


[09-Dec-18 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
which most people aren't willing to do


[09-Dec-18 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
which also explains why people physically incapable of morality (psychopaths) make CEO so often


[09-Dec-18 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
people not born with that innate advantage to thrive in ultracapitalism have to tell themselves a lot of little lies about how everything will be different once they "make it"


[09-Dec-18 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
and people wonder why mental health is so bad in the US when moral people watch other people do immoral things and succeed more than the moral people


[09-Dec-18 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
on top of the people doing immoral things having to tell lies to themselves about how it's necessary for survival


[09-Dec-18 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
tbh that might actually explain why old people started giving more to charity and shit after they got done making stupid amounts of money at the start of industrialization


[09-Dec-18 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
they realized "holy shit that was some pretty evil shit I did"


[09-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-france-yellow-vest-anti-government-protests-arrests-injuries-2018-12

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https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-france-yellow-vest-anti-government-protests-arrests-injuries-2018-12
More than 1,300 were arrested and dozens injured after violent ant...
For the fourth weekend in a row, yellow vest protesters took to the streets across France to demonstrate against President Emmanuel Macron.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c0c82ff034632354e71b1a3-1920-960.jpg


[09-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
given how many people support the protests, I don't think they're going to let up no matter how many are arrested


[09-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, arresting so many will just inspire more to go out


[09-Dec-18 09:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm waiting for tanks.


[09-Dec-18 09:03 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
here

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[09-Dec-18 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46497531

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46497531
May warns of 'uncharted waters' for UK
The PM puts pressure on MPs before Tuesday's vote, and warns of "grave uncertainty" for the country.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/4D76/production/_104703891_hi051081041.jpg


[09-Dec-18 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/west-virginia/statements/2018/dec/07/mike-romano/did-west-virginia-rank-50th-household-income-2017-/

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Did West Virginia rank 50th in household income in 2017? Yes
In a Nov. 8 op-ed in the Charleston Gazette-Mail, Mike Romano, a Democratic West Virginia state senator, said West Virginia’s median household income was nearly $17,000 below the national average.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.politifact.com/rulings/tom-true.png


[09-Dec-18 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Dec-18 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/cQhTsQX.png

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There’s always a tweet
https://i.imgur.com/cQhTsQX.png


[09-Dec-18 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://defence-blog.com/army/satellite-imagery-shows-hundreds-of-russian-tanks-near-the-border-with-ukraine.html

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Dylan Malyasov
https://defence-blog.com/army/satellite-imagery-shows-hundreds-of-russian-tanks-near-the-border-with-ukraine.html
Satellite imagery shows hundreds of Russian tanks near the border ...
Satellite imagery from Google Earth taken on November shows hundreds of Russian main battle tanks at a new military base on
https://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DtuOJmAXQAA55UX-min.jpg


[09-Dec-18 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang there's your tanks


[10-Dec-18 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://immakillsomebody.blogspot.com/2018/12/stuck-in-overlook-hotel.html

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Stuck in the Overlook Hotel
The specter of lost futures haunts today just like the specter of Communism haunted Europe a century ago. You can find these lost futures e...
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[10-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/LoynZCs.jpg

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Cards against westerners.
https://i.imgur.com/LoynZCs.jpg


[10-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
"What does colonial narcissism mean?"


[10-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
"It means 100k of student debt and no employable skills"


[10-Dec-18 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
what is she referring to


[10-Dec-18 02:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think they are talking about how we end up destroying animal homes and putting them into shelters for their protection from us which is like locking them up.


[10-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
no


[10-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
she means destroying the environment and biodiversity of native ecologies to better suit domesticated animals


[10-Dec-18 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing colonial about it


[10-Dec-18 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
just more room for the cattle


[10-Dec-18 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
americans wanna eat their god damn burgers


[10-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey Americans have a perfect puppet in Brazil to destroy the Amazon as much as we need for cheap beef.


[10-Dec-18 03:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
None of that lab grown burger stuff though. That will give you cancer, make you gay, give you autism, get you sent to hell, gmo your genes .ect


[10-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People will eat lab grown beef when its all there is, and real beef is sold as a premium product


[10-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suddenly a burger made from real beef costs $25 instead of $5.


[10-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're naive if you think this isn't the goal of lab grown beef.


[10-Dec-18 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
As it should be. since it would hopefully decline the need for cattel and help the enviroment.


[10-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, eventually it'll get so efficient that the area required to grow one cow will be larger than building a lab on the same area


[10-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
and you can build labs on top of labs


[10-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
you can't build farms on top of farms


[10-Dec-18 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I get the feeling lab grown burgers will probably be less than a dollar in production cost once they're at proper scale


[10-Dec-18 03:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Some country has plant farm skyscrapers that use UV light.


[10-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's human-focused utilitarian


[10-Dec-18 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XYLEliMhQ

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Fodder Group Inc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XYLEliMhQ
WORLDS BEST HYDROPONIC FODDER SYSTEM
Welcome to our video. Hydroponically grown Barley Sprouts are the most nutritious livestock food source on the planet. This video will take you on a quick to...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b2XYLEliMhQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Dec-18 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
that shit actually looks delicious for some reason


[10-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that it takes so much more time and resources to grow a cow than it does to grow the meat in labs


[10-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
so even if you use hydroponics to increase food production for cows, it won't be as efficient as just building another lab


[10-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
this is all eventuality of course, lab-grown meat isn't at the point that it can make a credible threat to the meat production industry right this second


[10-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
but the meat industry is trying its hardest to head off the competition before it actually becomes a threat


[10-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
like missouri passed a law at the urging of some national meat industry bribery group making it so that the term "meat" can't be used on any product except those "derived from harvested livestock or poultry"


[10-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
(bribery = lobbyist)


[10-Dec-18 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bribists are a pain in the ass


[10-Dec-18 03:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The other problem lab meat has to over come is opinion in places like the US where there are a bunch of people that won't even touch anything GMO which is basically picking the best of a crop and allowing only it to be grown next until you have a efficient growing crop. But acronyms are scary and conspiracy theorists and health nuts have demonized it. The word lab scares people. Alex jones types already calling it a globalist conspiracy. It's different, it's bad, it's wrong, playing God.


[10-Dec-18 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if man weren't meant to play god he wouldn't have made us in his image


[10-Dec-18 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
their logic is that we aren't omnipresent so we can't see the true future ramifications of our actions


[10-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
they somehow manage to simultaneously ignore this logic when it comes to global warming


[10-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
now I wonder how good uncooked lab-grown meat would taste


[10-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
since the upside to lab meat is that there's no bacteria for it to come into contact with


[10-Dec-18 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
so no harsh chemicals used before shipping it out


[10-Dec-18 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it woudl also likely be fresher


[10-Dec-18 03:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There would be much less fat and it would be more tender.


[10-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
it's also called "clean meat"


[10-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
dietary fat isn't bad


[10-Dec-18 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fat coems in various forms and they coudl tweek it to only give off certain fats


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
didn't say it was. I like some fat to my beef. adds to the taste. Lab grown won't have as much.


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
that's a myth perpetuated by big sugar business (they did a bunch of studies in the 50's and 60's which found that sugar caused obesity and heart disease, but they suppressed the findings and released alternative findings which pinned the blame on dietary fat)


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's why there's been such a big carb craze in the US


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
alternative facts.


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer fatty slightly chewy bacon to dry crispy bacon


[10-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
and why we're fatter than ever


[10-Dec-18 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MSG also never went away thye just call it by other ingredient names


[10-Dec-18 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it wasnt the issue anyway


[10-Dec-18 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46497526

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NHS told to ditch 'absurd' fax machines
Almost 9,000 fax machines are currently used by the NHS in England - but that is set to change.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/10CDE/production/_104703886_gettyimages-1024483326.jpg


[10-Dec-18 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
the tories really are trying their damned hardest to kill their public healthcare


[10-Dec-18 03:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Those old grannys with all the health problems and still using fax machines are not gonna be able to contact the NHS now.


[10-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
that's not even the problem, the problem is if the network is ever down


[10-Dec-18 04:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Last time I was in the hospital a few years ago they were using 512mb Celeron desktops on XP os. One of the wards even had a CRT monitor. NHS needs to update their tech. Pretty impossible with the constant cuts to budget.


[10-Dec-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we want you to make the upgrade to new tech but we won't give you the budget to make the upgrades we want you to make"


[10-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Crow Missouri is a nightmare realistically


[10-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMh7lQlpiQ

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMh7lQlpiQ
The Regressive Social Dystopia Is Upon Us And Will Get Worse
Protect Your Privacy At http://hidewithtim.com The Regressive Social Dystopia Is Upon Us And Will Get Worse. Sargon of Akkad was banned from Patreon over say...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EeMh7lQlpiQ/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/8yqyns/centrist_journalist_tim_pool_tries_to_hide_as_he/

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r/Destiny - Centrist journalist Tim Pool tries to hide as he reali...
199 votes and 105 comments so far on Reddit
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[10-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
kek https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj7TJC3WsAUYL_a.jpg

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[10-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
triggered billionaire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5zQpN28xa4

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SnapeScope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5zQpN28xa4
Billionaire Holocaust
Gavin Belson explains being a billionaire in modern America. From HBO's TV show "Silicon Valley".
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t5zQpN28xa4/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/09/trump-chief-of-staff-john-kelly-nick-ayers-1054203

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/09/trump-chief-of-staff-john-kelly-nick-ayers-1054203
From pinnacle to punchline: How Trump diminished the job of his ch...
The surprise news that Nick Ayers declined Trump's job offer underscores how a once all-powerful West Wing post has become 'mission impossible.'
https://static.politico.com/77/ff/b97937274e118e4b2a5a24f548ff/181209-kelly-trump-gty-773.jpg


[10-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
nobody wants to be chief of staff anymore


[10-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
because trump keeps putting them in untenable positions


[10-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VaKriGG.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/VaKriGG.jpg


[10-Dec-18 10:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Crow The picture is my view on the more sympathetic side of vigilantism


[10-Dec-18 10:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
"If you cannot trust the law to do the right thing, it is better not to trust them at all"


[10-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/cQhTsQX.png

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https://imgur.com/cQhTsQX
There’s always a tweet
https://i.imgur.com/cQhTsQX.png


[10-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
always


[10-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
last article I linked shows that nobody wants to be chief of staff anymore because of this


[10-Dec-18 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He wants the  staff of his office to work like a crime ring but they wont be his professional crime ring. The more they resist the more he berates them and the less likely it will be that he's ever gettign a new chief of staff


[10-Dec-18 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theslot.jezebel.com/us-refuses-to-accept-climate-report-urging-action-or-ce-1830973094

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https://theslot.jezebel.com/us-refuses-to-accept-climate-report-urging-action-or-ce-1830973094
US Refuses to Accept Climate Report Urging Action or Certain Doom,...
The United States continued its efforts to transform this garbage pile of a country into a literal garbage pile this weekend by teaming up with Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait to challenge language “welcoming” a United Nations report urging immediate global efforts to re...
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[10-Dec-18 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Dec-18 04:50 PM] Mikey#7286
>smocking


[10-Dec-18 04:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Can't even spell


[10-Dec-18 04:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Our president


[10-Dec-18 05:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
SDNY called it a campaign contribution tho


[10-Dec-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
smocking guns are the most important painting tool


[10-Dec-18 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Smocking is an old way of adjusting fabric


[10-Dec-18 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those weird frills on the edge of old shirts


[10-Dec-18 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46509288

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46509288
May calls off MPs' vote on her Brexit deal
The PM says she needs time to ask the EU for changes to the deal, sparking fury in the Commons.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06v5zdn.jpg


[10-Dec-18 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/577408/

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https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/577408/
Millennials Didn’t Kill the Economy. The Economy Killed Millennials.
The American system has thrown them into debt, depressed their wages, kept them from buying homes—and then blamed them for everything.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/12/RTX1EV2V/lead.jpg?mod=1544044937


[10-Dec-18 08:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
She lost 3 votes in a row this month. Can't lose a vote 4 times in a row if you don't let them vote.


[10-Dec-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/pJxrTzfG2bo

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eHistory.org
https://youtu.be/pJxrTzfG2bo
The Invasion of America
Please visit our interactive map: invasionofamerica.ehistory.org Between 1776 and 1887, the United States seized over 1.5 billion acres from America's indige...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pJxrTzfG2bo/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Dec-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
I remember learning about how "reservation" was still a thing and this that exact name


[10-Dec-18 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
felt like a brick to the face


[10-Dec-18 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-leaves-legal-victory-place-planned-parenthood-n945946

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Supreme Court gives victory to Planned Parenthood in Medicaid case
Three of the court's conservatives said the court should have taken up the case, but Justice Kavanaugh and Chief Justice Roberts voted with the majority.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_50/2677616/181210-planned-parenthood-mn-1015_e3c621c7c781c2f58a0d4b63767958f9.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[10-Dec-18 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how has kavenaugh been so far?


[10-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46513189

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46513189
Macron promises minimum wage rise
The French president says anger of "yellow vest" protesters is "deep and in many ways legitimate".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/118A2/production/_104724817_mediaitem104724814.jpg


[10-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
A planned tax increase for low-income pensioners would be cancelled, while employers would be asked to pay a tax-free end of year bonus to employees, he added.


[10-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
jesus


[10-Dec-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
he really wanted to pump up those taxes on poor people


[10-Dec-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
>asked


[10-Dec-18 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
doesn't mean it will happen


[10-Dec-18 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
also I don't think kavanaugh's had much of a chance to do anything


[10-Dec-18 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/us/nypd-mother-child-video/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/us/nypd-mother-child-video/index.html
NYPD officers pry 1-year-old child from mother's arms in startling...
With a crowd of onlookers gathered around, New York Police officers encircle a woman and her child on the ground.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181210151025-01-nypd-mother-child-video-super-tease.jpg


[10-Dec-18 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/accused-russian-agent-maria-butina-likely-plead-guilty-n946026

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Accused Russian agent Maria Butina likely to plead guilty
Butina was charged with conspiring to infiltrate politically powerful U.S. organizations, including the NRA, in an effort to push Moscow's agenda.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_44/2622141/181029-maria-butina-mc-730_53bf589d0a8fd6f45a426e140737902c.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[10-Dec-18 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/alleged-russian-agent-maria-butina-poised-to-plead-guilty-in-case-involving-kremlin-attempts-to-influence-nra/2018/12/10/3d91609e-f0f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html


[10-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
she knows how to hold a gun too https://i.imgur.com/RSAm0cQ.jpg

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[10-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
christ https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-harvard-house-orientation-lobbyists-2018-12

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams Harvard orientation for freshman la...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized the longstanding congressional intro program at Harvard Kennedy School meant to show new lawmakers the ropes.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c0e483d93276643744df9f2-1334-667.jpg


[10-Dec-18 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
every other story in the topic of cortez on google news was talking about how she revealed her jewish heritage


[10-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
this was the only one talking about something actually relevant to current events


[10-Dec-18 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has accused the orientation session for freshman lawmakers at Harvard's Kennedy School of being a "pro-corporate lobbyist project" that hypes tax cuts for corporations and argues against increasing the minimum wage.


[10-Dec-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
Ocasio-Cortez doubled down on her earlier criticism on Twitter on Sunday, saying attendees at the orientation, which has been held since the 1970s, "heard things like 'the $2T tax cut was great' and '$15 wage is a bad idea.'"


[10-Dec-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
"No labor reps were there," she tweeted. "Was this a multi-decade, pro-corporate lobbyist project the entire time?"


[10-Dec-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
short answer: yes


[10-Dec-18 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
long answer: yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss


[11-Dec-18 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/12/trump-administration-has-quietly-barred-nih-scientists-acquiring-fetal-tissue

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Trump administration has quietly barred NIH scientists from acquir...
Order jolts HIV/AIDS study at agency's Rocky Mountain Laboratories
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/rocky%20mtn_16x9.jpg?itok=ZsCf9mDz


[11-Dec-18 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[11-Dec-18 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
This is outrageous


[11-Dec-18 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/12/epa-science-adviser-allowed-industry-group-edit-journal-article

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EPA science adviser allowed industry group to edit journal article
Risk analyst Tony Cox invited oil industry funder to review his work
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/smog_16x9.jpg?itok=02TYzj5C


[11-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.foxnews.com/health/as-opioids-become-taboo-doctors-taper-down-or-abandon-pain-patients-driving-many-to-suicide

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As doctors taper or end opioid prescriptions, many patients driven...
Doctors and medical establishments are sharply reducing doses of – or altogether no long prescribing -- pain medications, leaving many among the estimated 20 million Americans who suffer from daily debilitating chronic pain to consider ending their lives, and many others to...
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/11/opioid1.jpg


[11-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
fox news is trying to blame the big evil federal government for forcing people with chronic debilitating pain to commit suicide


[11-Dec-18 01:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.imgur.com/KwFGVXk.png

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virgin anti-sjw vs chad sjw
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[11-Dec-18 01:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie


[11-Dec-18 01:34 PM] DevField#5162
Hooh boy


[11-Dec-18 03:31 PM] The Kruv#5131
Paid by Soros for existing XD


[11-Dec-18 04:08 PM] Nile#1441
Cringe meme


[11-Dec-18 04:59 PM] moonatik#3676
I am yet to hear a single decent argument against abandoning fossil fuels


[11-Dec-18 05:00 PM] moonatik#3676
renewable and atomic energy is better in every single way


[11-Dec-18 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[11-Dec-18 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes it is


[11-Dec-18 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
And more efficient


[11-Dec-18 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Fossil fuel will run out sooner rather than later as well


[11-Dec-18 05:07 PM] Nile#1441
I'm all for nuclear and hydroelectric power.


[11-Dec-18 05:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
But nukes will give us all cancer and make everywhere like Chernobyl. Should use good clean coal and oil and buy from allies like UK,USA,Russia and UAE.


[11-Dec-18 05:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Chernobyl was soviet accident where everything that could go wrong goes wrong


[11-Dec-18 05:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Don't forget solar power


[11-Dec-18 05:43 PM] Nile#1441
How're you going to store solar power though


[11-Dec-18 05:49 PM] Mikey#7286
You don't store it


[11-Dec-18 05:49 PM] Mikey#7286
It charges it and I'm pretty sure you can store solar charging


[11-Dec-18 06:12 PM] hmsquilava#3978
You don't store power full stop.


[11-Dec-18 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People say nuclear power is bad and I agree


[11-Dec-18 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But I was reading about a nuclear freighter that went 350k nautical miles in four years on 22 pounds of plutonium


[11-Dec-18 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/gop-senator-orrin-hatch-flatly-says-he-doesnt-care-if-trump-was-involved-in-crimes/

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/gop-senator-orrin-hatch-flatly-says-he-doesnt-care-if-trump-was-involved-in-crimes/
GOP Senator Orrin Hatch Flatly Says He Doesn’t Care if Trump Was...
Orrin Hatch is the longest-serving Republican in the U.S. Senate--like, ever. And he really doesn't care if President Donald Trump broke the law.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/GettyImages-106242681011.jpg


[11-Dec-18 07:08 PM] Nile#1441
Why do you think nuclear is bad


[11-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chernobyl


[11-Dec-18 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fukushima


[11-Dec-18 07:13 PM] Nile#1441
Two incidents that were accidental and not the fault of nuclear energy


[11-Dec-18 07:13 PM] Nile#1441
Fukushima happened during a tsunami-earthquake


[11-Dec-18 07:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nuclear power could be perfectly safe in places that are not prone to natural disasters like Europe. UK has a major coal industry so they make nuclear out to be the worst thing ever and wash coals in chemicals so that they can call it "clean coal" 🔥 🇬🇧


[11-Dec-18 07:22 PM] Nile#1441
Like I said, I’m all for nuclear and I have been for years. It just seems like a great step to getting rid of coal and natural gas.


[11-Dec-18 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
nuclear power isn't being expanded because it's not profitable


[11-Dec-18 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the real reason


[11-Dec-18 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
not because public interest or anything


[11-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
fukushima also should've been shut down


[11-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
the inspectors were being deflected


[11-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
chernobyl was because literally nothing about the reactor was built to even its own specs, which themselves were unsafe


[11-Dec-18 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the managing operator didn't care.


[11-Dec-18 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
He was convinced he would going to be promoted so ordered dangerous shit because it wasn't going to be his problem. Like ordering a stress test during peak power draw time


[11-Dec-18 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or something like that


[11-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
for chernobyl?


[11-Dec-18 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes


[11-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah it was ordering a safety test during the worst possible time


[11-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
that's the thing, chernobyl was literally the worst of the worst of the worst, there's so many levels of wrong that happened which would've never been able to even start on a sanely designed reactor


[11-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
it wasn't built to specs, its own specs weren't safe enough, the people running it were retarded, no safety features to protect from retardation, etc


[11-Dec-18 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://nautil.us/blog/chernobyls-hot-mess-the-elephants-foot-is-still-lethal

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Chernobyl’s Hot Mess, “the Elephant’s Foot,” Is Still Lethal
300 seconds will produce a relatively quick death, which is better than many alternatives. After just 30 seconds of exposure, dizziness…
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[11-Dec-18 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/tumblr_m6hyd58vsw1r81zgjo1_1280-jpg.159170/

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[11-Dec-18 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The absolute mad lad


[11-Dec-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you get close to a thing so radioactive it kills robots.


[11-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good thing Russia never cared much about human casualties


[11-Dec-18 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
the picture has noise where the radiation exposed the film


[11-Dec-18 09:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://immakillsomebody.blogspot.com/2018/12/poem-by-philipp-mainlander.html

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Poem by Philipp Mainlander
I hear in the sea, stirring wildly, the deep  Supplication of the approaching waves, mooing;  And then the crack of the surf hitting the cli...
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[11-Dec-18 09:13 PM] ononim#8141
sadboi poetry


[11-Dec-18 09:13 PM] ononim#8141
posting here too because it's "serious" enough


[11-Dec-18 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
moo


[11-Dec-18 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, it says the blog has been removed


[11-Dec-18 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
>Sorry, the blog at immakillsomebody.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.


[11-Dec-18 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
waht the hell


[11-Dec-18 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/time-s-2018-person-year-killed-imprisoned-journalists-n946311

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Time's 2018 'Person of the Year': Killed and imprisoned journalists
Time magazine is spotlighting a handful of journalists who have one thing in common: They were targeted for their work.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_50/2678866/181211-time-person-of-the-year-rectamgle-mn-0805_b9bd8786e3c9bdf70789829031b04adf.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[11-Dec-18 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
he changed url


[11-Dec-18 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://deathandvirginityin1876.blogspot.com/2018/12/poem-by-philipp-mainlander.html

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Poem by Philipp Mainlander
I hear in the sea, stirring wildly, the deep  Supplication of the approaching waves, mooing;  And then the crack of the surf hitting the cli...
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[11-Dec-18 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
http://quoms.tumblr.com/post/181023409047/people-make-bones-about-the-ussrs-project-of

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left unity
http://quoms.tumblr.com/post/181023409047/people-make-bones-about-the-ussrs-project-of
People make bones about the USSR's project of creating a "new Soviet man" - how quaint! - without appreciating that the American-led development of the 20th century "demand economy," culminating in...
https://66.media.tumblr.com/avatar_09c669e6c2c1_512.pnj


[12-Dec-18 12:23 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
So libertarian internet


[12-Dec-18 12:23 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
@crow


[12-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
@Crow


[12-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
the US libertarian party is super far right


[12-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
basically any government is too much government


[12-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
I'm moderate left libertarian, which is like libertarian but some basic social nets to make sure people don't just straight up die on the streets


[12-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Well shit son I'm in the same boat as you then


[12-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/7/17/1314751/-13-Tenets-of-the-Leftist-Libertarian

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13 Tenets of the Leftist Libertarian
This was actually posted as a comment to the rather well-written and immediately Recc'd "The Coming Democratic Schism" (Thomas Edsall's NYT Must Read Essay) .  However, after reading it over, I was ...
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[12-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
try taking this quiz too http://www.politicalsextant.com


[12-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's a more serious take on the meme-fraught political compass


[12-Dec-18 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politicalcompass.org/

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https://www.politicalcompass.org//
The Political Compass
A typology of political opinions plotted on 2 dimensions: economic and social.


[12-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
I've taken a number of them before. I come up usually as "Social Libertarian". A more or less rare identity... Yet the one with the most common sense ideology


[12-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
this one's mine http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[12-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
and my compass https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.0&soc=-5.49

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https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.0&soc=-5.49


[12-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
that's about me, though more center and a bit higher


[12-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Just about me too


[12-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mine is further left and further down


[12-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm a bit south of Gandhi


[12-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Strange, most pone fans tend to not fall in the leftists camp


[12-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incorrect.


[12-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
At least the ones I find


[12-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pony fans are young and the show is incredibly liberal.


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] ononim#8141
>taking pc seriously and not just like a test for laugh and mem template


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Perhaps I've found myself in some echo Chambers of late then


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] ononim#8141
just reminding that doing so may lead to development of galaxy brain takes


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives lately are very loud and obnoxious.


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as they insist that losing your life savings because of a car accident is totes okay bruh


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Taking any online political test seriously, at most political sextant as a potential guide of future reading lists


[12-Dec-18 12:34 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Galaxy brain takes? Wat Gagarin?


[12-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
@ononim


[12-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
post yer compass mang, gotta have more memes


[12-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Cosmic_Naught#3235
Give me a min


[12-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
I meant @AaronMk lol


[12-Dec-18 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is the closest one I got, from the Russian Revolution version of the compass.

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[12-Dec-18 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_T7bD4pAlE

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Prottimus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_T7bD4pAlE
Mother Anarchy Loves Her Sons [English Subtitle]
Our horses are running mile after mile, Cause Freedom is priceless. Through the slot of my machine gun I'm looking for the enemy in the dust. Mother Anarchy ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h_T7bD4pAlE/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Dec-18 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
I thinkg I was a bit lefter than you there lol


[12-Dec-18 12:37 AM] ononim#8141
ULTRA GANG


[12-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
I took it again at some other date and was even more left.


[12-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a bit more libertarian


[12-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
I fucking out-Mahkno'd Mahkno


[12-Dec-18 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Dec-18 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
oh yeah well im a registered democrat and i hate pepsi >:V


[12-Dec-18 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
also I've never seen a fountain with both coke and pepsi


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I think they do exclusivity contracts, don't they?


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw registered dem too, but considering joining the DSA.


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, usually they have a deal with specific companies


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably exist but are like 4 leaf clovers


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think the photo is shopped


[12-Dec-18 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure they exist the question is just where do you even find one


[12-Dec-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve never seen one in person either


[12-Dec-18 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Search high and low


[12-Dec-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets real annoying when one of thme has a monopoly on resterauntas in a town


[12-Dec-18 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the town I used to live in, they have a Pepsi bottling plant.


[12-Dec-18 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've applied to work there before, did a short tour basically on the way to do the interview.


[12-Dec-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the resteraunts i went to in cleveland ohio had it in with coca cola


[12-Dec-18 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, trump is threatening a christmas government shut down if he doesnt get his stupid fucking wall budget of $5 billion again


[12-Dec-18 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how about you instead redirect that 5 bill from your stupidly inflated military budget you ass clown


[12-Dec-18 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/9518d24c6bbe41238b8c82f092393284

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Trump threatens shutdown in wild encounter with Democrats
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a wild Oval Office confrontation, President Donald Trump heatedly threatened to shut down the U.S. government Tuesday as he and Democratic leaders bickered over funding for his promised border wall and offered a grim preview of life in Washington the ne...
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[12-Dec-18 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he should just ask putin for a wall budget


[12-Dec-18 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
why would putin waste money on a wall


[12-Dec-18 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wouldn't but that probably doesnt stop trump from begging him for stuff


[12-Dec-18 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never said putin woudl agree


[12-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4g0a7LaUUI

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Sparrowmaiden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4g0a7LaUUI
Prime Minister's Question Time
It's Question Time in the Commons again. It's just as silly as you might expect. Spitting Image is copyright Network DVD. Seasons 1-8 are available now!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a4g0a7LaUUI/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
to all the americans who keep up with british politics and say "man i wish we had president's question time lmao"


[12-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
trust me


[12-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
you don't


[12-Dec-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont wish that


[12-Dec-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we;d never get straight answers


[12-Dec-18 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would be dodging every single question


[12-Dec-18 01:38 AM] moonatik#3676
that's what our PM does


[12-Dec-18 01:40 AM] moonatik#3676
the only time she gives a straight answer is if she's asked "so what are you doing today"


[12-Dec-18 01:40 AM] moonatik#3676
and even then she's not always honest


[12-Dec-18 01:40 AM] moonatik#3676
while i do admit it would be fun to watch trump under pressure in a PMQs type setting, it'd all fall apart pretty fast


[12-Dec-18 01:41 AM] moonatik#3676
if anything it'd embolden his base


[12-Dec-18 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump got a mandatory question time and someone asked "what are you doing today?" trumps answer would probably be "well, i know what those witch hunting democrats are doign today, being corrupt criminals after my good name"


[12-Dec-18 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I have the goodest name, the best name people say. That proves i;m innocent"


[12-Dec-18 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you;d just get an hour's unintelligable rambling about the mueller probe


[12-Dec-18 01:43 AM] moonatik#3676
it'd basically be oral twitter


[12-Dec-18 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[12-Dec-18 01:44 AM] moonatik#3676
except it'd be elected representatives doing the shitty responses instead of random blue checkmarks


[12-Dec-18 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne in the next question tiem he;d contradict all his ramblings and thne say last week never happened


[12-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/this-has-spiraled-downward-democrats-introduce-trump-to-divided-government/2018/12/11/f832b92e-fd6e-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html


[12-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
hello, yes, mr dealmaker, start making deals


[12-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
oh wait


[12-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), the likely next speaker, and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) called out Trump’s falsehoods. They exposed him as malleable about his promised border wall. They lectured him about the legislative process and reiterated to him that he lacked the votes to secure the $5 billion he seeks for the wall.


[12-Dec-18 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46533406

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Huawei executive freed on bail in Canada
A Canadian court releases Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou on bail, as the US seeks her extradition.
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[12-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420865-judge-orders-stormy-daniels-to-pay-trump-293k-in-legal-fees

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Judge orders Stormy Daniels to pay Trump $293K in legal fees
A federal judge on Tuesday ordered adult-film star Stormy Daniels to pay President Trump more than $293,000 in legal fees amid their ongoing legal battles.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_danielsstormy_101718getty.jpg


[12-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
first the judge dismisses the lawsuit because he claimed that the defamation lawsuit had no merit due to that just being "how politics works in the US"


[12-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
now he's ordered her to pay for trump's legal fees when they're still appealing


[12-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
afaik she's never run for any political office, so the first reasoning is bullshit


[12-Dec-18 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it seems like this guy's just bought out


[12-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/11/criminal-justice-reform-mitch-mcconnell/2275332002/

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Mitch McConnell, in reversal, says Senate will vote on criminal ju...
The bipartisan "First Step Act" aims to reduce the number of people in the nation's crowded prisons.
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[12-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
wow


[12-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
the fucking dinosaur reversed positions on something


[12-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how much dirt the person who's pressuring him has on him


[12-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow the Stormy Daniels thing is because of California law


[12-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has anti-slap protection


[12-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that unless you hav a VERY strong case immediately with defamation, you get rekt


[12-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
but he was obviously defaming her


[12-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
the reason for dismissal wasn't that he wasn't defaming her, but that he was just doing normal political speak


[12-Dec-18 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
but that reasoning doesn't hold up for a non-political target of said speech


[12-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
and it's obvious that there's something seriously wrong with our political system if defamation is considered a viable political tactic


[12-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
let alone that you can now use it as a reason to attack non-political targets


[12-Dec-18 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
"oh I'm not DEFAMING that small business, I'm just talking POLITICS"


[12-Dec-18 04:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[12-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, defamation being a political tactic is kind of alarming


[12-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's the reality and the judge was right.


[12-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Defaming someone to sway popular opinion as a politician, if actually followed up with legal action, would invalidate the entire Republican party in the courts.


[12-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be SCREAMS of "activist judge" across small farming towns Trump is slowly killing.


[12-Dec-18 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/522253998317633541/image0.jpg

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[12-Dec-18 06:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-steve-king-asks-google-ceo-sundar-pichai-for-names-of-employees-to-see-if-theyre-liberals

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Rep. Steve King Wants to Hunt Down Liberals Inside Google
Republicans ‘need to know who they are and look at their social media.’
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[12-Dec-18 06:47 AM] RYDE#8862
I want to get off of this planet....


[12-Dec-18 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do too


[12-Dec-18 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are people not more up in arms that the president told his attorney to commit a felony?


[12-Dec-18 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To influence an election, by the way?


[12-Dec-18 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Had Trump lost he would be right there with Cohen being charged.


[12-Dec-18 07:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nURta8-zu4E

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South Africa 2019: Beginning of the END
✅ Support BPS via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/blackpigeon ✅ Tip Jar: via PayPal to: navyhato@gmail.com ✅2nd Channel- Navy Hato: https://www.youtube.com/...
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[12-Dec-18 07:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Poor SonicFox hewas only trying to clean the skeletons out of the game community closet.


[12-Dec-18 08:23 AM] Nile#1441
What skeletons


[12-Dec-18 08:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Black Pidgeon Speaks


[12-Dec-18 08:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly a well reasoned scholar in the discourse.


[12-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking cause as long as the blakks don't get any welfare and the mexicans can't enter the country, anything is permissible


[12-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is literally how fascism works.


[12-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if there are rules, you ignore them for the broader purpose of LAW AND ORDER by any means necessary


[12-Dec-18 09:57 AM] moonatik#3676
https://twitter.com/Mike_KumarSky/status/1072757465937252353

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Mike Kumar (@Mike_KumarSky)
https://twitter.com/Mike_KumarSky/status/1072757465937252353
Leadership contest against Theresa May triggered
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[12-Dec-18 09:57 AM] moonatik#3676
hoahly shipt


[12-Dec-18 10:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@Nile There is a lot of toxicity in the gaming community


[12-Dec-18 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Itsthinking  his attorney general or his normal attorney? people would probably be more up in arms about this if it was still a fresh subject but it;s had 2 years to stew and trump does illegal bullshit all the time.  Chances are trump has always hired attorneys to do illegal bullshit which makes his election attorney no exception.  Right now trump is facing an attorney general shortage because he tried to use them like any normal corrupt ass lawyer he's ever hired and they weren't having it.


[12-Dec-18 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
going by all the developments he was likely in talks with the russians for atleast a year ahead of the 2016 election given how much planning seems to have gone into it.


[12-Dec-18 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though it likely didnt start out as a political thing so much as a crooked business deal


[12-Dec-18 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now america is also under outrage fatigue. it takes a lot of energy to be pissed off and we are a nation that is constantly pissed off.


[12-Dec-18 02:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://a.msn.com/r/2/BBQPRWY?m=en-gb&referrerID=InAppShare

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Brexit in chaos as Tory MPs trigger vote of no confidence in May
Brexit in chaos as Tory MPs trigger vote of no confidence in May

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[12-Dec-18 04:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGH_v1mDEE

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Daily Mail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGH_v1mDEE
Andy Serkis absolutely CRUCIFIES Theresa May with Gollum portrayal
The British actor donned a Conservative-blue jacket, a grey wig and lipstick for the sketch and refers to a copy of the Withdrawal Agreement as 'precious' wi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6sGH_v1mDEE/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Dec-18 05:14 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/pE0zHwMoJ4g

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high5toons
https://youtu.be/pE0zHwMoJ4g
Everybody Loves Donald
A Trump Toon. SUBSCRIBE: youtube.com/high5toons Facebook.com/high5toons Script & Backgrounds by Tys Animation by Sam
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[12-Dec-18 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/12/former-donald-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-sentenced-blind-loyalty/2274755002/

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Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer, is sentenced to three years ...
Michael Cohen, former lawyer for Donald Trump, cites 'blind loyalty' for 'dirty deeds,' is  sentenced for federal felonies, including one in which he implicated Trump.
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[12-Dec-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1072896566535643139?s=19

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Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip)
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1072896566535643139?s=19
Cohen letting loose on Trump: "Recently the president tweeted a statement calling me weak and it was correct but for a much different reason than he was implying. It was because time and time again I felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds"
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[12-Dec-18 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
the absolute madman


[12-Dec-18 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
“Cohen’s consciousness of wrongdoing is fleeting, that his remorse is minimal, and his instinct to blame others is strong....these offenses reveal a man who knowingly sought to undermine core institutions of our democracy.”
- Sentencing memo SDNY.


[12-Dec-18 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
is it coincidence that both gollum may and oompa troompa are having problems at about the same time


[12-Dec-18 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
what's your pet name for macron


[12-Dec-18 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
macaroni


[12-Dec-18 08:23 PM] Nile#1441
Hilarious and original


[12-Dec-18 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[12-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286

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[12-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286
😂 😂 😂


[12-Dec-18 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Is this real


[12-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[12-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/NhZIV

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Michael Cohen on Twitter: "@HillaryClinton when you go to prison f...
archived 9 Apr 2018 21:39:34 UTC


[12-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
it's deleted now


[12-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
but it got archived


[12-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[12-Dec-18 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh I didn't observe the date


[12-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/P16qHOZ.mp4

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[12-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
how the government works


[12-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
why bribery (lobbying) should be banned


[12-Dec-18 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/420935-house-republicans-move-to-block-yemen-war-powers-votes-for-rest-of-congress

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House Republicans move to block Yemen war-powers votes for rest of...
House Republicans are moving to prevent members from forcing a vote for the rest of the year on any resolution that attempts to use the War Powers Act to cut off U.S. support for Saudi Arabia in Yemen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yemensaudi_091318getty.jpg


[12-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421041-national-enquirer-publisher-agrees-to-cooperate-with-prosecutors

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National Enquirer publisher agrees to cooperate with prosecutors
American Media Inc., the parent company of the National Enquirer, has agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, the Department of Justice
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcdougalkaren_032018getty.jpg


[12-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/420986-kansas-state-republican-switches-party-affiliation-to-democrat

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Kansas state Republican switches party affiliation to Democrat
A Kansas state senator is switching her party affiliation from Republican to Democrat.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kansas_senator_1212_0.png


[13-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iceland-has-jailed-26-bankers-why-wont-we-a6735411.html

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Iceland has jailed 26 bankers, why won't we?
This determination to hold people to account for actions that caused intense financial misery contrasts strongly with Britain
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/15/17/Iceland.jpg


[13-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Holy shit, Iceland is based.


[13-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Most well read country


[13-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
And fucking holds bankers accountable


[13-Dec-18 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
And they lift too


[13-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
that's where eve online is based


[13-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCP_Games

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CCP Games
CCP hf., doing business as CCP Games, is an Icelandic video game developer based in Reykjavík. Novator Partners and General Catalyst had previously collectively own a majority stake in the company, and in September 2018, CCP was acquired by South Korean video game publisher ...
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[13-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michael-cohen-gets-3-years-cases-involving-stormy-daniels-lying-n946956

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Cohen gets 3 years, says Trump's 'dirty deeds' led him to 'choose ...
Cohen had pleaded guilty to nine federal charges of tax evasion, violating campaign finance laws, lying to banks and to Congress.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_50/2680676/181212-michael-cohen-mn-1110_47d5cdb854a24a8488d1aab7c38dda87.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[13-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the president committed a felony.


[13-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one cares.


[13-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
trump wasn't directly involved in the felony IIRC


[13-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
its unconfirmed whether he actually ordered it or not


[13-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen said he did.


[13-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
he directed Cohen to make the payments


[13-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We knew this in August.


[13-Dec-18 01:33 AM] moonatik#3676
kinda hard to prove that in court


[13-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump may have an advice of counsel defense


[13-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen already pled guilty to it.


[13-Dec-18 01:34 AM] moonatik#3676
i know cohen committed the campaign finance violation among many other terrible things but it'd be difficult to incriminate trump on his word alone


[13-Dec-18 01:35 AM] moonatik#3676
there is a legit case against trump with emoluments though


[13-Dec-18 01:36 AM] moonatik#3676
he's taken a shitload of money from saudi arabia for one, which is pretty much a textbook violation of the emoluments clause


[13-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Campaign finance stuff is more concrete, especially with the National Enquirer cooperating now


[13-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
"no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under (the united states), shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State"

he's taken money from saudi princes though his hotels, so that's pretty solid


[13-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
the clause even specifies prince lol


[13-Dec-18 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
what happens if it's a princess >:V


[13-Dec-18 01:40 AM] moonatik#3676
omg it makes sense


[13-Dec-18 01:40 AM] moonatik#3676
that's why trump is trying to make equestria real


[13-Dec-18 01:41 AM] moonatik#3676
so his corrupt buddies can funnel money to him through an unaware and curious alicorn princess


[13-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_term=2018-12-12T19%3A26%3A40&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2OMZ_eEMT_KLtf0nBk4XpmtJ2CLgjvNz9AOBd5URLxOm47w9iRuYCqZ3g

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Trump Moves to Deport Vietnam War Refugees
The White House again wants to expel certain groups of protected immigrants, a reversal after backing away from the policy months ago.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/12/RTX4O171/facebook.jpg?1544644942


[13-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look at everyone's faces but Trump's in that picture


[13-Dec-18 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Mr. President, you are aware that, as we have told you, deporting people to countries based on ancestry is a bad and possibly illegal ide-"
"SHUT UP OR I FIRE YOU!"


[13-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/EfVC45b

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Name a more iconic trio
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[13-Dec-18 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Count Brazil in, too


[13-Dec-18 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking Bolsonaro


[13-Dec-18 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.al.com/news/2018/12/alabamas-600000-confederate-park-carries-controversial-cost-and-message.html

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Alabama’s $600,000 Confederate park carries controversial cost a...
Other state parks receive far less money than the Chilton County park, where a library states slavery did not cause the Civil War.
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[13-Dec-18 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, apparently modern Muricans can't kneel or ignore the Union flag, and yet must contribute to a pro-Confederate installation with public money


[13-Dec-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mfw

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[13-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
The Trogdor song but replaced with Sherman


[13-Dec-18 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trogdor but remixed with Marching through Georgia


[13-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
I wonder if that would work like the Thomas the Tank Engine theme


[13-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JgcbtxURA4

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[13-Dec-18 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/research-project-hiv-cure/

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[13-Dec-18 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, if you make sure nothing from an abortion can be used to potentially cure the disease god uses to kill gay people, you hit two birds with one stone.


[13-Dec-18 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
American Libertarian Party paradise*


[13-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
people (especially americans) forget there's a whole other spectrum of libertarian because there's no party for it in the US


[13-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American Libertarians are either reject Republicans or sexual deviants


[13-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or full dude weed


[13-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's that chart


[13-Dec-18 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie if a fetus is a person and an abortion kills a person, how is it different than a body being used for science


[13-Dec-18 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/a4o5ae/uber_drivers_cant_file_class_action_lawsuits_so/

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[13-Dec-18 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
How to DDoS a company with forced arbitration


[13-Dec-18 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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If the court decides that Uber is deliberately and willfully refusing to enter arbitration, on a contract they wrote, the judge can order Uber to pay, and/or find them in breach of contract, and/or go down the path of voiding the arbitration clause as being in bad faith, and/or go down the path of voiding the entire contract.

For all Uber drivers, nationwide, immediately.
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[13-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, now this is epic


[13-Dec-18 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was writing about this exact same thing today and saying the only real power now is consumer revolt


[13-Dec-18 09:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-09-10-ea-reportedly-under-criminal-investigation-in-belgium-due-to-fifas-loot-boxes

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[13-Dec-18 09:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
how far is their investigation?


[13-Dec-18 09:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
It's been 2 months of nothing


[13-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB-Iwuq5VN4

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Why Can't We Agree on Facts?
Nobody who understands the ideals and principles of science... is against those principles. We all recognize it's our best and most robust truth seeking syst...
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[13-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: if you bring this video up with people who deny climate change, they'll just say that none of the information people get to prove climate change is from "primary" sources


[13-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
at best, they'll say that the news articles are misconstruing the evidence


[13-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
the usual "middle ground" is that somehow the people funding the studies are paying the scientists to reach conclusions that the funders want them to find


[13-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's a pretty common occurance that funders funding scientists to perform studies end with the scientists finding the conclusion different to or even completely opposite of what the funders wanted them to find


[13-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst case is that the whole thing is a hoax


[13-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
and that the scientists are fudging the numbers to get the conclusion they want to be true (which does happen sometimes, but neither on the scale that the hoaxers are claiming nor on such high profile studies which are observed very closely)


[13-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Crow#5457
like recently there was a claim that the oceans were warming at a much higher rate than originally expected (like 60% faster iirc), and within the week the study had been corrected by a single skeptic scientist who called attention to what amounted to bad number keeping


[13-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
he ended up almost completely invalidating the whole study (the new numbers came out to anywhere from 10% to 80% faster warming than expected, which is such a wide variance as to be practically meaningless)


[13-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
the new conclusion was that the oceans were warming faster than expected, but only by a slight margin and within the previous expected percent error


[13-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's the same thing with those weirdoes with an incessant fetish for conspiracy theories and government cover-ups (like saying that the obama administration or the california state government somehow had/have just as much illegal shit going on as the trump administration, only that nobody wanted to prosecute the black man/the liberals because they'd be called a racist)


[13-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's pretty much guaranteed that with enough eyes looking, there's literally nothing that the government can get away with for any meaningful amount of time


[13-Dec-18 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's why people want either less interference from or more oversight of private entities because they can legally hide all the shit they do to get their way on a political level


[13-Dec-18 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
and I've never seen anyone but the most extreme ultracapitalists claim that there's absolutely no problem whatsoever with private people or businesses sinking billions of dollars into politicians in order to get the outcome that they want


[13-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
especially with no oversight


[13-Dec-18 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm making essays on shit nobody cares about and nobody's here to read at 1 am because I don't have enough money to become an engineer, joy


[13-Dec-18 10:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could learn German and go get free engineering degrees in Germany. You may not be able to bring it into America because of regulatory discrepancies, but it's an option.


[13-Dec-18 10:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, I've been thinking about it more.


[13-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
I wish I knew how to do that, they require you have to have at least about $8,000 a year available back at home to pay for lodgings and living expenses


[13-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
for a student visa


[13-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
so it's not exactly something that can be done on a whim by yourself


[13-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
tbh if I had a choice, I'd prefer to move to norway


[13-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
something about their culture resonates more than germany's, germany's is too strict in the wrong ways


[13-Dec-18 10:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well I work at Home Depot, that's 27k a year, so long as I'm actually working. Otherwise I don't own stocks or bonds.


[13-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
plus they aren't fully members of the EU


[13-Dec-18 10:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The catch is there on average most Americans with financial assets have about 2 grand.


[13-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah, you can't exactly work while going to school lol, unless you mean save up long enough to finish schooling and become a citizen


[13-Dec-18 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Here I would assume the idea would be you can find work there and work to pay your way, lol


[13-Dec-18 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
I suppose you could, but I think the article I read was along the lines of barely knowing german and learning it as you go (which is basically how it always works, even with formal schooling in the language)


[13-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
almost none of the lower division classes are taught in english, but quite a few of the STEM fields for upper division classes are taught in english


[13-Dec-18 10:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I know enough German I complain to myself in it. Granted in only basic German. I can basically state I don't like when X or Y happens and some other associated stuff.


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
from what I understand, norwegian is a nightmare to learn as a native english speaker


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I heard the opposite.


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
That it's perhaps one of the easiest.


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
but german is relatively similar to english in the basic sentence construction


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
If because English is a Germanic language


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Norweigen is Germanic


[13-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
it's just that their way of making new words is completely insane


[13-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
actually yeah, I think I was thinking of finnish


[13-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's one language in that area that's a nightmare even for the other people who speak languages similar to it


[13-Dec-18 10:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
English is also a quarter French, so sometime I ammuse myself by looking at French passages and picking out the words I know because they're basically the fancy version of some of our words.


[13-Dec-18 10:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Latin is hella shitty because then you have to learn deflection or something.


[13-Dec-18 10:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Chinese can give even experts in language studies a head ache if they're European in general.


[13-Dec-18 10:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think on some places even Chinese kids don't have a grasp on it. Less so than English kids.


[13-Dec-18 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the main three asian languages (chinese, japanese [which is just chinese with some simpler characters mixed in], and korean) are nightmares for non-asian speakers


[13-Dec-18 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ebXIP4M

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Finnish language 101
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[13-Dec-18 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[13-Dec-18 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
yeah it was finnish


[13-Dec-18 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
all the finnish language memes


[13-Dec-18 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/lb0SwnE

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Finnish language
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[13-Dec-18 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/Why-has-Finnish-evolved-to-be-so-different-than-other-Scandinavian-languages-Swedish-Norwegian-and-Danish-How-come-it-has-similarities-with-Hungarian

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[13-Dec-18 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
apparently, finnish isn't even from the same tree as germanic


[13-Dec-18 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
I like that samoyedic is a language


[13-Dec-18 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
the language used to talk to the cloud doggos


[13-Dec-18 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

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[13-Dec-18 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
"Teaching science the way we do now is like teaching journalism by only having people read the news; we don't practice being wrong and learning what it takes to be right. We've sort of left ourselves defenseless."


[13-Dec-18 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
science's roots are in philosophy


[13-Dec-18 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
and critical thinking's roots are also in philosophy


[13-Dec-18 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
the only people who learn philosophy in the US before college are rich kids


[13-Dec-18 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
I've never heard of a public school ever teaching philosophy, even in affluent districts


[13-Dec-18 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
one of the slightly misleading statements he makes in the video is that public school is supposed to teach kids critical thinking, but that was never the case


[13-Dec-18 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, it was specifically designed with factory work in mind, which is some of the most unengaging and uninspired work you could possibly ever get (I speak from experience I had this summer with a metal bending and stamping company)


[13-Dec-18 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
they were using old ass machines from the 40's and 50's from before automation took over big business, it was a small operation with like 8 employees max


[13-Dec-18 10:43 AM] Crow#5457
most of them were temporary helpers considered private contractors like me, 2 were manager/owner father and son (son took over from the father), two were full-time salaried employees, and the rest were like me


[13-Dec-18 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason one of the salaried guys was on a salary was because he'd been working there since he was like 25 (he was in his 30's now)


[13-Dec-18 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
and the other guy was a welder who ran the welding machines


[13-Dec-18 10:48 AM] Crow#5457
oh, there was a third guy who was basically the overseer that was also salaried


[13-Dec-18 10:49 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the point is that the work was extremely dull and doable with a relatively small amount of training, even for the salaried guys, basically the perfect work for a machine


[13-Dec-18 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
and that's exactly the sort of work that the current public school system was set up to do, only on a much larger scale


[13-Dec-18 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
oh well, nothing I say or do will matter on any meaningful scale


[13-Dec-18 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
because I don't have enough money to make it matter, and you can't make any meaningful amount of money without either getting extraordinarily lucky or being born into a meaningful amount of money (which, itself, is just a longer way of saying "getting extraordinarily lucky")


[13-Dec-18 10:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think you'd be interested in a comment I read on a Cuck Philosophy vid, posted by a working physicist.


[13-Dec-18 10:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And how science education is fucked because it's basically about the data points and not anything like the epistemology behind the science.


[13-Dec-18 11:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know how to direct link to comments on mobile if I can, but you're looking for the comment by Anthony Hopkins on this video: https://youtu.be/ZTf8Bau_E1I

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[13-Dec-18 11:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[13-Dec-18 11:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our offical media entered pornhb...wtf?!


[13-Dec-18 11:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You guys want me to clop to those communism propagandas?


[13-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, you mean nathan hopkins? that's the only hopkins I've found so far


[13-Dec-18 11:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ye


[13-Dec-18 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
anthony hopkins is a composer


[13-Dec-18 11:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
The long comment by the phycisist.


[13-Dec-18 11:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh


[13-Dec-18 11:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wait, shit. Lemme look again for the screen name


[13-Dec-18 11:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nathan Hopkins.


[13-Dec-18 11:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
You found him then


[13-Dec-18 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
er, not a composer, an actor


[13-Dec-18 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
there was also a composer named antony hopkins, but he died in 2014 and wasn't the guy I was thinking of


[13-Dec-18 11:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it's not uncommon to share first and last names with people. I share my name, first and last with a Polish tennis player and California lawyers.


[13-Dec-18 11:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally me never appears in Google searches. 👍


[13-Dec-18 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
I had a chemistry professor over the summer this year who was in the final stages of submitting his doctorate thesis in inorganic chemistry (and he looked like a fucking mess too, also he was 43, so he was incredibly old by what is considered "normal" standards) who railed on quantum mechanics for going after such micro-scale goals which have little to no meaning on any scale larger than a molecule and lamented the lack of philosophy in public education due to how fundamentally interconnected chemistry is with philosophy


[13-Dec-18 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling a lot of that was caused by the stress of writing his thesis


[13-Dec-18 11:47 AM] Crow#5457
though it's been recently discovered that at least some of the quantum effects first thought to only occur on the micro scale actually happens on the macro scale as well


[13-Dec-18 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
my engineering/physics professor also covered the point that newtonian physics has been largely supplanted in modern physics by quantum mechanics


[13-Dec-18 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
but newtonian physics is still taught because all of its laws are still very good approximations on the macro scale


[13-Dec-18 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, if anything I'd say that comment was written by my chemistry professor


[13-Dec-18 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
lots of data taken for data's sake, not because there's any specific meaning or final conclusion to be had


[13-Dec-18 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-sarah-huckabee-sanders-honest-20181212-story.html

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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders has grand ideas about her legacy.
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[13-Dec-18 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://fortune.com/2018/12/12/senate-vote-political-donor-disclosures/

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Senate Votes to Overturn Trump-Era Policy Limiting Political Nonpr...
The "dark money" groups will again have to report names and addresses of donors to the IRS.
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[13-Dec-18 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/k52gcmG.mp4

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[13-Dec-18 03:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Lies-About-the-Humanities-/245261?key=YYB656B-DGUJ2veZAT6seXcSw5hjPcApV8sgGK5tPK-Mr8J7jh66otk29XMzzgb1YWRkX0J3UndWd2E4ZUQxOFRtdU5kSmI5bFVXQlhOZV9oSDJFVVA3M0xUWQ&fbclid=IwAR099ls-w8Cl-NjM_DrrUWmYZXgg7KW0p8YnWz39fK0RgPApnYVtPUe012A


[13-Dec-18 04:04 PM] Honahue#0656
Academia has an issue with "publish or perish" so scientist are encouraged to to experiments that have already been done or can be adapted to other things quickly. It takes time to do new science, people spent decades sometimes doing experiments before writing a book about it but you'd be fired for trying that now


[13-Dec-18 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's fucing dumb


[13-Dec-18 04:06 PM] Honahue#0656
Now I've even heard the term "publish and perish" the expectations are so high to make journal articles that people can't meet them


[13-Dec-18 04:10 PM] Honahue#0656
And journals have a bias to positive articles where you had a result that proved the hypothesis, which is awful because negative results are where real learning occurs. Having your initial guess confirmed is nice but science is when you make that guess and it's wrong so now you have to find out why


[13-Dec-18 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Dec-18 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Being a lawyer, he should have known that what i told him to do was illegal and it's on him that he did my illegal bidding and none of it is on me the person who gave the orders"


[13-Dec-18 06:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/colin-peterson-yemen-rule-farm-bill-saudi-war.html

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Collin Peterson believes that America should have a global empire — but American congressmen shouldn’t have to keep up with international news.
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[13-Dec-18 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[13-Dec-18 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnESHWGUwAATaGR.jpg

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[13-Dec-18 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[13-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol calm down


[13-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so easy to upset absolutely anyone with just three words all in lowercase with punctuation. I am surprised by its effectiveness


[13-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Dec-18 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw

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CGP Grey
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The True Cost of the Royal Family Explained
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[13-Dec-18 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
The virgin CGP Grey


[13-Dec-18 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
vs


[13-Dec-18 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U
Abolish the Monarchy! - A response to CGP Grey
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[13-Dec-18 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
The Chad Shaun


[13-Dec-18 08:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK needs a French Revolution.

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[13-Dec-18 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They kinda did


[13-Dec-18 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War

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The English Civil War (1642–1651) was a series of armed conflicts and political machinations between Parliamentarians ("Roundheads") and Royalists ("Cavaliers") over, principally, the manner of England's governance. The first (1642–1646) and second (1648–1649) wars pitt...
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[13-Dec-18 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They even decapitated their own king, 120 years before the French did it


[13-Dec-18 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cool


[13-Dec-18 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the guy who lead it even declared himself a defacto king


[13-Dec-18 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why didn't they repeat this in 1688 smh


[13-Dec-18 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then a war for the rest oration, sorta


[13-Dec-18 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
But then never doubled back on it like the French did.


[13-Dec-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Cromwell was the Stalin here


[13-Dec-18 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Almost the Napoleon


[13-Dec-18 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cromwell was the Stalin of liberalism


[13-Dec-18 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
Not to defend Capital L Liberalism here but tbh Cromwell was more like Stalin of Protestantism since anti-catholicims had such big role in big chunk of shit he did


[13-Dec-18 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep


[13-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
I like how they were unable to return to power until after he died of natural causes


[13-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
and they were so salty they dug up his body to mutilate


[13-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like most of the history of the human species can be tracked back to someone being salty about something


[13-Dec-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like the Romans against Carthage's farmlands


[13-Dec-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Get it?


[13-Dec-18 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Got eem


[13-Dec-18 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPQ5R80SlI

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Jamarl Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPQ5R80SlI
Richard Wolff | Masterfully Explains France's Yellow Vest Movement
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[13-Dec-18 09:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0xW1QEtLsk

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Peter Coffin
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"South Africa & The Far Right" (MIRROR of RATIONAL DISCONNECT)
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[13-Dec-18 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/migrant-caravan-let-us-or-give-each-us-50000-turn-around-and-go-home-1255043

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Caravan asylum seekers tell U.S.: Let us in or give us $50,000 eac...
"It may seem like a lot of money to you...but it is a small sum compared to everything that the United States has stolen from Honduras," organizer Alfonso Guerrero Ulloa said.
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[13-Dec-18 10:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Give 'em a 100,000 and a promise to withdraw from Latin America.


[13-Dec-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
man I am watching the vid I linked


[13-Dec-18 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
and hell


[13-Dec-18 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
I thought Molinux guy was ran of the mill le ancap


[13-Dec-18 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
but here he is


[13-Dec-18 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
saying stright up white supermacist shit


[13-Dec-18 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Don't worry, it's not the first time. Here's a Shaun video laying into his shenanigans on Native Americans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_nVCWPgiA

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_nVCWPgiA
Stefan Molyneux's Native American Genocide - A Response
Content warning: much highly depressing talk about genocide & various violent acts Apologies, as always, for my terrible pronunciation. Contact: https://twit...
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[13-Dec-18 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
>"the truth about the native american genocide" by a rightist


[13-Dec-18 10:25 PM] ononim#8141

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[13-Dec-18 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
Remember when Ayn "is he rape her it means she loves him" Rand said that Natives deserved it because they "didn't repsect property rights"


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
>molyneux saying how information comes with responsibilty and if you know how to cure disease you should go and cure


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
wait


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
hol up


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
isn't he


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
you know


[13-Dec-18 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
ancap


[13-Dec-18 10:40 PM] ononim#8141
who says that any taxation is theif and public healthcare is straight up enslaving the doctors


[13-Dec-18 10:40 PM] ononim#8141

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[13-Dec-18 10:40 PM] Nile#1441
Cringe


[13-Dec-18 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim get a load of this, then


[13-Dec-18 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/12/05/stefan-molyneux-mens-rights-icon-straight-up-embraces-white-supremacism-though-he-wont-quite-admit-it/

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David Futrelle
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[13-Dec-18 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://petapixel.com/2018/12/12/that-debunking-of-a-paris-protest-fire-photo-is-fake/

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Michael Zhang
https://petapixel.com/2018/12/12/that-debunking-of-a-paris-protest-fire-photo-is-fake/
That 'Debunking' of a Paris Protest Fire Photo is Fake
One of the most viral photos of the past few days has been a side-by-side comparison of two photos that purports to show how photographers covering the
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[14-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My undergraduate history classes often offered a conservative viewpoint as reading and they were almost all terrible


[14-Dec-18 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/421043-senate-votes-to-end-us-support-for-saudi-war-bucking-trump

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Senate votes to end US support for Saudi war, bucking Trump
The Senate approved a resolution Thursday to end U.S. support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen, dealing a significant blow to President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_121118getty.jpg


[14-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
wow, 56-41, even bigger than expected


[14-Dec-18 01:12 AM] moonatik#3676
the 41 is what we in the industry like to call "the genocide caucus"


[14-Dec-18 01:14 AM] moonatik#3676
speaking of fuckery in the middle east


[14-Dec-18 01:14 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.thelocal.se/20181213/lund-professor-freed-student-from-islamic-state-warzone

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Lund professor freed student from Islamic State war zone
A chemistry professor at Lund University dispatched a team of mercenaries into an Islamic State (also known as IS, Isis or Daesh) war zone to free one of her doctoral students and his family.
https://www.thelocal.se/userdata/images/article/9ff1854d19d6891e300e2fdc198f3b6679ec01fe9344d25f891951b43ead4e1f.jpg


[14-Dec-18 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the wut now


[14-Dec-18 01:14 AM] moonatik#3676
i'm honestly unsure about how i feel about this


[14-Dec-18 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
oh derp


[14-Dec-18 01:15 AM] moonatik#3676
also "the genocide caucus" is what i like to call the group of congresspeople who support the saudi massacre in yemen


[14-Dec-18 01:16 AM] moonatik#3676
ohh lol


[14-Dec-18 01:16 AM] moonatik#3676
found this

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[14-Dec-18 01:16 AM] moonatik#3676
basically leave supporters are split on whether to support may's deal or to not


[14-Dec-18 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
looks like they dont really want to leave tbh


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
while remain voters are like "yeah, we want to remain"


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
brexit is what happens when people attempt to bring memes to real life


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
i thought that was trump


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
trump is also what happens when people attempt to bring memes to real life


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
anyway this is what happens when you group a shitload of options and outcomes under a single umbrella term


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
but brexit was mostly just people voting yes for the lulz


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
"remain" means quite simply remaining in the EU


[14-Dec-18 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
trump was people voting against democrats


[14-Dec-18 01:18 AM] moonatik#3676
"leave" could mean hard brexit, soft brexit, and anything in between


[14-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
tbh trump was less about memes and more about the living shitstain that was hillary being an establishment shill


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] moonatik#3676
I do feel like these two cases show a major flaw in how we perceive politics


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
political buzzword fest


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
trump is actually the first non-neoliberal president since before reagan


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
but the people controlling him are neoliberal, so whatevs


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] moonatik#3676
as in people focus way too much on what they're against rather than what they're for


[14-Dec-18 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/k52gcmG.mp4

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[14-Dec-18 01:20 AM] moonatik#3676
it's how anti-SJWism soon became repackaged conservatism


[14-Dec-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
and yes of course


[14-Dec-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's easy to rally people against a boogeyman


[14-Dec-18 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's hard to rally people for... almost anything else


[14-Dec-18 01:21 AM] moonatik#3676
"SJWs" are obviously annoying to many people so they'll support whoever's against it


[14-Dec-18 01:21 AM] moonatik#3676
same with the anti-trump resistance


[14-Dec-18 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
from what I understand, annoying to a large majority of people


[14-Dec-18 01:21 AM] moonatik#3676
people seem to forgive terrible people way too easily because that terrible person is anti trump


[14-Dec-18 01:22 AM] moonatik#3676
I hate trump just as much as your regular npc libtard soyboy socialist, but I'm not gonna be rallying behind michael avenatti


[14-Dec-18 01:23 AM] moonatik#3676
thanks but no thanks


[14-Dec-18 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the assholes rise to the top


[14-Dec-18 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
people like assholes


[14-Dec-18 01:23 AM] moonatik#3676
I do feel like the bernie wing of the party has gotten good at presenting something to vote for rather than something to vote against


[14-Dec-18 01:24 AM] moonatik#3676
hell, 70% of the US population supports medicare for all


[14-Dec-18 01:24 AM] moonatik#3676
51% of republicans support it even


[14-Dec-18 01:24 AM] moonatik#3676
campaign on that and similar issues and you'd finally have something to vote for rather than something to vote against


[14-Dec-18 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has ensured that the left will actually go left now.


[14-Dec-18 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AOCs presidency is basically assured either in 2024 or 2032


[14-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or 2028 I guess


[14-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
trump is the first actual conservative to get elected in decades, and it turns out people don't like actual conservatives that much


[14-Dec-18 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
everything else in over 30 years has been neoliberal


[14-Dec-18 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
which is moderate right


[14-Dec-18 01:28 AM] moonatik#3676
I disagree, on policy he seems to just be george bush the 3rd


[14-Dec-18 01:28 AM] moonatik#3676
also I doubt AOC will be president in 2024 lol


[14-Dec-18 01:29 AM] moonatik#3676
2032 seems more likey, but she will go far


[14-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah, like I said, trump isn't actually doing the things he wants to do


[14-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
his "handlers" are still neoliberal


[14-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
but trump is very loudly advertising his conservative views, even if he isn't getting a chance to act on most of them


[14-Dec-18 01:30 AM] moonatik#3676
imo it's the same views but with nastier rhetoric


[14-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, neoliberals are moderate right, so there will be similarities


[14-Dec-18 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
only reason why democrats attract left voters is because of a few social issues, but both democrats and republicans have been neoliberal for decades


[14-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
from my europeon/brit POV reoublicans are far right


[14-Dec-18 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
tories have more in common with the democrats than they do with republicans


[14-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, democrats are more moderate right compared to the rest of the world, republicans are more right


[14-Dec-18 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
republicans are from right to extreme right


[14-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
democrats are moderate right to moderate left (though bernie has shown some more than moderate left tendencies)


[14-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats are center left


[14-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
that's what I thought I was saying


[14-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans used to be normal right but are now far right


[14-Dec-18 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats have an actual leftist wing tho


[14-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, but the mainstream democrat is neoliberal


[14-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans really don't allow variable party beliefs


[14-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez


[14-Dec-18 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh I want Taylor Swift to try to run


[14-Dec-18 01:37 AM] moonatik#3676
i hope a shitload of celebrities and corporate dems run in 2020


[14-Dec-18 01:38 AM] moonatik#3676
because A. entertainment and B. it'd split the vote of the apathetic and moderates


[14-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah that's what primaries are for


[14-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still want Ol' Musky


[14-Dec-18 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ol' Musky smokes free base cocaine live on stage for votes.


[14-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People care about race and gender sadly, so pick boring white guy.


[14-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or funny white guy


[14-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As long as he's white, male, and breathing, he can work


[14-Dec-18 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can't want for Musk to call everyone a pedophile


[14-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean Trump did it before.


[14-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not unprecedented.


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then again, Musk was born in South Africa I think, so he's an invalid candidate.


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh he was right


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, Praetoria


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Confirmed Afrikaner


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still think the Zucc might do it


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Zucc/Musk 2020


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine


[14-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think Musk's foreign birth would invalidate him from that too


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine a Musk-WhoeveristwitterCEO ticket


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's okay, he just gets skipped over.


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Er,, Zucc-Twitter


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
excuse me


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk can be VP, remember when people considered Schwarzenegger for VP slots


[14-Dec-18 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg is also considering it


[14-Dec-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Elect me as president, I'll make Stalin look like an anarchist.


[14-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could go full youth vote and pick like


[14-Dec-18 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kennedy and Beto in some combo


[14-Dec-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Extra-judicial public execution for all silicon valley.


[14-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll be  amazed if Kennedy isn't already preparing for 2020, the 60th anniversary of JFK being elected


[14-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
beto/hubbard obviously


[14-Dec-18 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hubbard?


[14-Dec-18 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Richard Wollf and Micheal Parenti ticket now.


[14-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, forgot her name


[14-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
thought it was hubbard, she's from hawaii


[14-Dec-18 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld29XtuDFf8

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Conscious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld29XtuDFf8
Globalization, the New Imperialism - Professor Michael Parenti
Globalization, the New Imperialism - Professor Michael Parenti A classic talk from 1999 by political scientist Professor Michael Parenti. It's just as illumi...
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[14-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
gabbard


[14-Dec-18 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
tulsi gabbard


[14-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ehhhh


[14-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Beto Hubbard could work


[14-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Wasn't Elizabeth Warren gonna run?


[14-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unelectable.


[14-Dec-18 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Might as well pick Pelosi or Clinton again.


[14-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

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Tulsi Gabbard
Tulsi Gabbard (, born April 12, 1981) is an American politician of the Democratic Party serving as the U.S. Representative for Hawaii's 2nd congressional district since 2013. She was also a Vice Chair of the Democratic National Committee until February 28, 2016, when she resi...
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[14-Dec-18 01:47 AM] Honahue#0656
>implying Hildawg won't run again


[14-Dec-18 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG424Ezr84k

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Ian Taylor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG424Ezr84k
Chapo Trap House - Hillary Staffers vs Obama Staffers
From the excellent Episode 225: The Poster's Crusade.
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[14-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Dec-18 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow i think L. Ron Hubbard was in your head rn lol


[14-Dec-18 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Must have been the scientologists using their mind control techniques


[14-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
no, there's a professor at at my college with the name hubbard


[14-Dec-18 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh.


[14-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to a German Engineering degree, it will work in the US


[14-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU and US agreed to common rules on educational credentials


[14-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if that applies to norwegian engineering degrees as well


[14-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely


[14-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I worked with a pharmacist, a different but similarly highly skilled job, who was from and educated in Brazil and he worked as a dish washer for awhile before taking the licensing tests needed to work as a pharmacist in the US. Maybe you'd only need to test and a degree from Norway or Germany should be enough for them to let you take the test and enough for you to pass but that's just something I've seen


[14-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In some cases, there aren't tests to prove you're knowledgible


[14-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
i think as an engineer you have to be state certified though and to even try you need a bach in engineering


[14-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
at least for like building or civil I don't know what you need if you're working on like circuit boards or something


[14-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhuFWoN1nb0

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhuFWoN1nb0
The Snowflake Generation? A Response to Thoughty2
Content Warning: Flashing images, sexual assault "The Snowflake Generation" kinda sounds like a Hitman escalation Videos used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FhuFWoN1nb0/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
rofl, thoughty2 used a clip of alex jones at a rally to show all the "offended far left militant millennials"


[14-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
like nobody would see it if the video wasn't paused to analyze the short few second clip he used


[14-Dec-18 05:56 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I like how Americans stereotype French as cowards but turns out they were braver than the Americans


[14-Dec-18 05:57 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
How many Americans organize a protest on the scale of whats going on in Paris?


[14-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
hahah as an American it's so goddamn true, we are mad at Trump and knit dumb pussy hats. The French are mad about a gas tax and fucking break out the guillotines


[14-Dec-18 05:58 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I mean America hasn't had a violent nationwide conflict in its own lands since 1865. France has to deal with them as late as World War II


[14-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
American's are pussys and we take credit for winning the world wars which where probably won by the French and the Russians respectively


[14-Dec-18 05:58 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Yet the former are the sterotype makers for some reason


[14-Dec-18 05:59 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Nebbie @Crow What do you think?


[14-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I say this as both an America and a veteran


[14-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've ever seen the "french coward white flag" meme specifically done by americans


[14-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's just the average dumb meme


[14-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
ehhhh as an American we do meme the French as cowards


[14-Dec-18 06:03 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Esp. after France refused to help with the 2003 invasion


[14-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Honahue#0656
in the past we didn't, you know when we remembered that if it wasn't for Layfette we wouldn't have a country


[14-Dec-18 06:03 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Then the stereotype *really* took off


[14-Dec-18 06:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
You know, its not a major European and world Power for nothing


[14-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
WW2 was hard on the French cause the government surrendered pretty quick even though the people of France didn't but who the fuck knows that in America


[14-Dec-18 06:04 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Its not timid and def. not a coward lol


[14-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
the French just like wine and cheese and their women don't shave their pits


[14-Dec-18 06:06 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I thought they were the "exotic, alluring lovers" stereotype


[14-Dec-18 06:06 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Or was that Italian/Latin?


[14-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean the French are good lovers according to Americans I guess


[14-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
but because they'd rather bone they don't want to fight I guess


[14-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
despite their nationl anthem talking about watering fields with the blood of their enemies


[14-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
I'd personally say that "hon hon hon baguette eiffel tower" is a more common meme than white flag france


[14-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Cheese eating surrender monkey is a pretty popular one too though


[14-Dec-18 06:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Honahue That is what they call the "French=coward" sterotype on TVTropes


[14-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah Jeromy Clarkson coined that term


[14-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
and it's fucking sad because up until ww2 it was the exact opposite of true


[14-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
even during ww2 it was only kinda true


[14-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
even for ww1 the French weren't cowards if anything they were just misinformed. They put their efforts into making great officers but didn't realize the potential of machine guns, (they weren't the only one either)


[14-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
during ww1 the last war Europeans fought against themselves was before the machine guns, the Franco Prussian war. Everyone had been using machine guns to suppress Africans or Indians or other far off brownish people


[14-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean yeah to ME it seems pretty obvious that machine guns change everything but I'm literally 100 years later of 20/20 hind sight I can't really say I would have thought it would be such a big deal in 1914


[14-Dec-18 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
What am I being asked?


[14-Dec-18 06:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Well we were having a discussion about French people and them being stereotyped as cowards, chiefly by Americans


[14-Dec-18 06:29 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I was asking about your take on this whole issue


[14-Dec-18 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/RpVM22W

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https://imgur.com/gallery/RpVM22W
It’s in their blood
https://i.imgur.com/K91reGch.jpg


[14-Dec-18 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
"My wife is French & in France & said there is misunderstanding of the Yellow Vest movement. She said: "I am seeing a lot of wrong information, so I prefer to explain a bit better: It is not just the tax on fuel; it is mostly the Macron Govt cut the retirement paycheck for everybody (including my parents), and they increased gas and electric bills in all homes, all taxes increased (property taxes, habitation, city taxes, income taxes), and cut the taxes for the ultra rich (ISF). Macron does not care for the ecology. He did not increase gas tax to protect earth but to make more money. 

One of the best french environmental activists, Nicolas Hulot, was Ecology Minister under Macron but he resigned because it was impossible to do anything sincerely for the environment in the Macron government. Also, fuel was already over the equivalent of $5 per gallon with high taxes, and most people already drive very small cars. Increasing the tax is very regressive, hits the poor hardest. They cant get to work. Another approach to ending oil addiction is needed.


[14-Dec-18 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
"Macron gave huge tax breaks to the very richest and then tried to put the climate burden on the working class. So the working class are rioting. They're not protesting globalism, they're protesting oligarchy and the domination of the very wealthiest. We live under class warfare and we lay down and take it. Time for REAL CHANGE."


[14-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
"As a French, I disagree. It's not only Macron, it's 40 years of bad policy."


[14-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
good the French fucking get it I wish my fellow Americans would too


[14-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
why do you think I want to move


[14-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
but we don't we're jut bitches


[14-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans try to have street marches


[14-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I wish I could but I;m just e pleb mechanic


[14-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either we have people run us over or our cops spray tear gas


[14-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
I saw a study claiming something like 80% of millennials would prefer to move to europe


[14-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So yeah


[14-Dec-18 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
I've been tear gasses I am a veteran, my reaction was pretty mild


[14-Dec-18 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
if I didn't feel so alone I'd join an American Yellow Jacket thing


[14-Dec-18 06:37 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
At least its not China where attempting to do a street march usually results in even worse reactions


[14-Dec-18 06:37 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
China is stone cold hard when it comes to dissent


[14-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
true


[14-Dec-18 06:38 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Aka 0 tolerance


[14-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China did ban Fortnite tho


[14-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
good


[14-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
china banned fortnite because it was outcompeting pubg


[14-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
erryone's different when it comes to tear gas though


[14-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
some fucking die, some like me  cry a little and get over it


[14-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
oh, pubg got banned too


[14-Dec-18 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/has-china-really-banned-fortnite-pubg-and-other-battle-royale-games-250087

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Has China really banned Fortnite, PUBG and other battle royale games?
Chinas is apparently banning Fortnite, PUBG and more for "blood and gore."
https://s3.dexerto.com/thumbnails/_thumbnailLarge/fortnite-pubg-overwatch-league-of-legends-china-ban-banned-chinese-government.jpg


[14-Dec-18 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
"The games include Fortnite, PUBG, H1Z1, Ring of Elysium and Paladins, all of which were ruled as prohibited or withdrawn because of "blood and gore" and "vulgar content.""


[14-Dec-18 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disharmonious chat too


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And any game that promotes giving more things based on how well you do


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Overwatch: "Game visuals promote incorrect values, inharmonious chatroom."


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
"Game visuals promote incorrect values"


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Wat


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tracer has the big gay


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
oh nooo


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And women have boobs in general


[14-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
horrible


[14-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Mikey#7286
fuck china


[14-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I guess they showed communism can technically work


[14-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[14-Dec-18 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
cleavage is banned on television in china


[14-Dec-18 06:45 AM] Nile#1441
Very based, China


[14-Dec-18 06:46 AM] Mikey#7286
>based


[14-Dec-18 06:46 AM] Mikey#7286
lol no


[14-Dec-18 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
dis gaem don't show family friendly values that adhere to our political ideologies >:c


[14-Dec-18 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
BAN


[14-Dec-18 06:47 AM] Nile#1441
Based


[14-Dec-18 06:48 AM] Nile#1441
I ain't Steven Crowder, you can't change my mind :twismug:


[14-Dec-18 06:48 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Mikey


[14-Dec-18 06:49 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
China has always been like that


[14-Dec-18 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
i know


[14-Dec-18 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
and they've always sucked for it


[14-Dec-18 06:49 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
anytime *anyone* tries to even remotely have the audacity to think of challenging the authoritarian China, the government cracks down on it/him/her


[14-Dec-18 06:49 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they also don't give a fuck what the international community thinks


[14-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
communist China turned out to be Imperial China with a little less family inheritance


[14-Dec-18 06:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Tbf to them it's not like Nationalist China is any better


[14-Dec-18 06:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
(i.e Taiwan)


[14-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Mikey#7286
we should like


[14-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
build a dome around china


[14-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
and make the tibetans pay for it


[14-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
GENIUS


[14-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/oV2KVEj

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https://imgur.com/gallery/oV2KVEj
The Man. The Legend. Mr T
https://i.imgur.com/xTQreuwh.jpg


[14-Dec-18 07:44 AM] RYDE#8862
I pity the Fool!


[14-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@PzZ1-TD1 completely deserved


[14-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So France in WWII was like "guys it's fine, we built a wall"


[14-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile England said "nah don't attakk, Hitler will just giv up once we giv him everything he wants"


[14-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then the Germans, gasp, went around the wall by invading countries that had NO FUKKING CLUE what self defense even was


[14-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then France, instead of mounting a defense


[14-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
ran around screaming


[14-Dec-18 09:30 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it was kind of continued past the point it would be necessary I think though


[14-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Charlse de Gaulle tried to get France to actually formulate a plan but nobody fukking listened to him


[14-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the Brits were like "here's a plane out" and he left end became the only legitimate part of the French gov't


[14-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile


[14-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Brits were like "okay you're fukking morons, sink your ships or we will" and France said "no fukk you! We hav the right to be completely incompetent morons who hand over Europe to Hitler!" and they had a fight and France mostly got away


[14-Dec-18 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then France handed over all its production to Hitler, and went around murdering civilians gruesomely whenever the nazis asked it to


[14-Dec-18 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it retained it's navy!...until the Germans came for that too


[14-Dec-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
thankfully, some people had maybe a quarter of a brain and actually blew it up.


[14-Dec-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also meanwhile, some people had full brains and joined Charlse de Gaulle in "Free France"


[14-Dec-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which was based in the really, really-oppressed African French colonies, but oh well


[14-Dec-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least it had a navy


[14-Dec-18 09:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Tbf the only reason they managed to blow up the fleet in Toulon was because those Frenchmen had the common sense to misdirect/delay the Germans


[14-Dec-18 09:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
had it not been that way, Germany would be able to field French ships alongside their own


[14-Dec-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So eventually the Americans came in to save France from the shittiest French gov't in history and round up the people who helped commit war crimes to the French people and commit war crimes right bakk.


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Although, was them getting stereotyped in America as cowards for refusing to join the 2003 Iraq War really neccesary?


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they lokked up the guy who ran occupied France for his whole fukking life as he deserved.


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to be blunt here


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
in regards to the middle east


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The way I see it, French people have the courage to throw up a massive protest on the streets of Paris right now, for "perceived incompentence"


[14-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
perpetual war breeds perpetual war


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Americans didn't even manage anything like that to Trump's repeated breaching


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's bad, but


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you just sit bakk while the middle east gets bombed


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOTHING CHANGES


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
France is completely afraid to actually try and fix the region


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they used to own it and are hugely responsible for its modern problems


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, remember those French colonies in Africa?


[14-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, Charles de Gaulle later ruled France properly


[14-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he had to settle the Algerian question


[14-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, the two options were 1) Giv up Algeria (self-determination) like everyone shouted at the top of their fukking lungs to do or 2) Make it equal to the core territory, same rights


[14-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Option 2 was never on the table


[14-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
because option 2 meant giving brown people full rights to come to Paris and build mosques


[14-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
which Charles de Gaulle thought was worse than Hitler, basically


[14-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But France dragged its ass on option 1 for a whole decade


[14-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
thousands died.


[14-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in the modern day, France only cares about brown people...in the exact same sense: get those fukking people out of my white country


[14-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a single shit about fixing the messes they helped create in Northern Africa and the Levant


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they're happy to tentatively support the US and UK actually trying to do something (even if that something is wrong)


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
what about those ongoing protests?


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being cowards who sit bakk even as their country gets rekt is simply engrained into how the French gov't works


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The French people hav courage


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Like I said, no one in America dared to do something approaching that scale to Trump


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
but all it ever results in is a new face in power


[14-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
who does more of the same


[14-Dec-18 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
France will put in a new Francais to replace Macaroni and that's that


[14-Dec-18 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then he'll raise fuel taxes later


[14-Dec-18 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then he'll bomb Syria without any plans to deal with migrants other than help Italy kill them.


[14-Dec-18 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so the cowardice goes, on and fukking on.


[14-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[14-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans do marches and protests and riots all the time


[14-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the difference is that the gov't doesn't care


[14-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the French gov't is less able to keep the prime minister in power than the American gov't is the president


[14-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if Washington DC was to the point official gov't business had to happen in another city for safety reasons, Trump wouldn't even think about changing policies


[14-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US gov't is too insulated from the will of the people.


[14-Dec-18 09:44 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
would that mean "too out of touch to care?"


[14-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[14-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that it is simply near impossible to get a sitting politician other than the president out of office via a challenger to their reelection


[14-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as for ways to remove without election, in most states, *actually* impossible short of being a criminal.


[14-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Combine that with the attitudes in Washington DC, and nobody fukking cares if the entire country is rioting


[14-Dec-18 09:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Gets confronted with a present day issue involving protesting the government's legitemacy


[14-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't will just stamp down harder


[14-Dec-18 09:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
>"Let me, as a non French person, explain Algeria"


[14-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was about French cowardice


[14-Dec-18 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's something they've practiced for a long time at the gov't level


[14-Dec-18 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
sit pretty with some dreams of socialism, enjoy a few worker reforms, never actually use their military properly


[14-Dec-18 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how most of Europe operates


[14-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, daddy US will do it for you etc. etc.


[14-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and of course, then France and such will question the US on what it's doing


[14-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead of ANY counterplan


[14-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll just sit bakk and do nothing.


[14-Dec-18 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the point of anything besides NATO when the only military you'd ever use besides a few bombers is NATO, and those bombers are bombing Russia's allies anyways?


[14-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but of course, now that the empire's lost, and thus brown people can't be exploited for wealth directly, only worked by their home countries to the bone for our cheap products, it's no longer in anyone's interests to leave their white garden and actually help the world out


[14-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
other than to bomb, in pretty much a symbolic effort, Russia's allies now and then.


[14-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we've gotta raise those fences in the white gardens, otherwise some filthy brown people will come in and dirty 'em up!


[14-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's that? Bombing Russia's allies and supporting violent revolutionaries without any plans to stabilize the region or support Democracy lead to a bunch of filthy brown people swarming us because of rules WE agreed to whereby you can come in maybe I guess if you'd be killed otherwise? Welp, time to uh...continue doing that and pretend the problem is REALLY the fault of the brown people and help Libya enslave them so they can't get on boats.


[14-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mmm, that's a lovely baguette that now can't officially be called a French Baguette if it's not made by white people in France.


[14-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, the US has the same problem, except OCCASIONALLY it actually tries something.


[14-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, that's a lot easier when you control like the world's military pretty much, but France would never go and actually try to end the war in Syria or help out Ukraine


[14-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if NATO told it to, probably.


[14-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dereliction of responsibility in a global environment by the west and especially Europe is disturbing.


[14-Dec-18 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/15851f17cb164b89a4fa3d8be33e156b

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Court: Trump can't let companies deny birth control coverage
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A divided U.S. appeals court Thursday blocked rules by the Trump administration that allowed more employers to opt out of providing women with no-cost birth control. The ruling, however, may be short lived because the administration has adopted new rule...
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[14-Dec-18 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/13/betsy-devos-student-loans-1063442

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DeVos cancels $150M in student loan debt after losing court battle
The move comes as DeVos is being forced to implement a package of regulations that created more protections for student loan borrowers.
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[14-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Yuri#4154

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[14-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Yuri#4154
🤦‍♂️


[14-Dec-18 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frU21i9CJKI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frU21i9CJKI
Questions Liberals can't answer (But Socialists can)
Nothing fancy this time, just a bit of fun.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/frU21i9CJKI/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Dec-18 09:27 PM] Yuri#4154
Seems like the guys over at TPUSA are really bad at switching to their alts

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[14-Dec-18 09:38 PM] DevField#5162
rip


[14-Dec-18 11:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Dec-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/421426-walker-signs-bills-to-weaken-dem-successor-in-wisconsin

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Walker signs bills to weaken Dem successor in Wisconsin
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) on Friday signed a package of legislation that will take powers away from his Democratic successor and the state’s incoming Democratic attorney general.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/walkerscott07202015getty.jpg


[15-Dec-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-campaign-finance-overhaul-20181214-story.html

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California's campaign watchdog agency could soon lower fines for m...
Fewer politicians and campaigns would face significant financial penalties for breaking California campaign and ethics laws under a proposal that could soon be adopted by the state’s political watchdog agency.
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[15-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for a whole new your of absolute bullshit? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-texas-strikes-strikes-down-affordable-care-act-n948306

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Federal judge in Texas strikes down Affordable Care Act
In a ruling sure to be appealed to Supreme Court, Texas court says the ACA, also known as Obamacare, can no longer stand without the penalty against the uninsured.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_43/2202976/171025-healthcare-ac-809p_4ab8da76239c22c591dbef05fa3baca7.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[15-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[15-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
the argument is that the most unpopular part of the law, now that it's been neutered


[15-Dec-18 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
was the *only* reason it was within Congress' power


[15-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
effectively saying that Congress can't pass laws on health insurance, period


[15-Dec-18 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(cause Democrats will eventually pass some kind of SOSHALIZED MEDIRCINE)


[15-Dec-18 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will do ANYTHING to stop the gov't from helping the poor


[15-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then they'll argue that the gov't is bad at helping the poor


[15-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
to get more votes.


[15-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/rich-people-are-getting-away-not-paying-their-taxes/577798/

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The Golden Age of Rich People Not Paying Their Taxes
An eight-year campaign to slash the IRS’s budget has left the agency understaffed, hamstrung, and operating with archaic equipment. The result: a hundred-billion-dollar heist.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/12/IRSledart/facebook.jpg?1544472899


[15-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/world/europe/migrants-dutch-church-service.html

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By PATRICK KINGSLEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/10/world/europe/migrants-dutch-church-service.html
To Protect Migrants From Police, a Dutch Church Service Never Ends
Pastors have sheltered a family of refugees by praying round the clock for six weeks — taking advantage of an obscure Dutch law and experimenting with their sermons.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/10/world/10church-print-2/xxchurch2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[15-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/943991312570822656

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https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/943991312570822656
@Nieuwsuur to new US ambassador: "You mentioned [..] that there are no go-zones in the Netherlands and that cars and politicians are set on fire."

Pete Hoekstra: "I didn't say that. That's actually an incorrect statement [..] fake news."

Hmm, let's have a look at the foo...
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[15-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
old but gold


[15-Dec-18 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Zinke resigned


[15-Dec-18 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6h7fL22WCE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6h7fL22WCE
This LA Musician Built $1,200 Tiny Houses for the Homeless. Then t...
Elvis Summers crowdfunded $100,000 to build dozens of tiny homes. City officials looking to pass a $2 billion housing plan tried to shut him down. Subscribe ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n6h7fL22WCE/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Dec-18 08:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Wow.Fuck L.A. governors.


[15-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
and people think I'm joking when I say there's no future in the US


[15-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
I guarantee that the very moment that democrats have control, things won't get better


[15-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
there'll be some things getting better, but other things will be worse, and many policies will continue to be the same


[15-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
democrats and republicans are both neoliberal


[15-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
the only real difference is a few social issues (gay marriage and abortion)


[15-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
At least they not commies


[15-Dec-18 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unfortunately, they not commies*
FTFY


[15-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
those are enough to drive leftists to the democrats, but it's always been a "vote against the party you hate more" thing in the US


[15-Dec-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/free-college-is-now-a-reality-in-nearly-20-states.html

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Free college is now a reality in close to 20 states
More states are adopting programs to increase the number of students who attend college.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/04/26/104428756-GettyImages-587966682.1910x1000.jpg


[15-Dec-18 08:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Need more people to go *Killdozer* against shitty government types. Don't think homeless can afford an armoured bulldozer though. Should settle for a homeless protest outside the governments places. Sleep there until something is done. There are so many they could not jail them all.


[15-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The original killdozer was with an idiot who blamed the CATHOLICS for his scheme to sell his property for a fukkton by manipulating a guy he hated failing, btw


[15-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Small business owners are often evil, insane people who benefit off the work of the actual honest workers.


[15-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Honahue#0656
Killdozer was the story of a guy that thought everyone was against him even though everyone bent over backwards to appease him. Plus he shit in a bucket and dumped it into a ditch like an animal


[15-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Honahue#0656
anyway no on in the west will ever start a revolution because almost always revolts occur because the choice is life or death in most of the west it's not a question of "will I starve tomorrow?" it's "why can't I live like my parents". Also people without medical coverage aren't really in a position to revolt because it's hard to get the medicine you need to live if everything is in upheaval for an indeterminate amount of time.


[15-Dec-18 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was reading about Killdozer


[15-Dec-18 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Governor of CO considered blowing it up with an Apache


[15-Dec-18 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm reminded of this German TV movie


[15-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where there was a hijacking of an airliner and they planned to crash it into a stadium during the World Cup


[15-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
German Air Force scrambled jets but explicitly ordered no one to fire on it but one guy disobeyed orders, shot down the jet and killed 270 people


[15-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was about his trial, he was acquitted


[15-Dec-18 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In reality if that happened in the US I don't think the Air Force would even flinch at doing it


[15-Dec-18 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably would have done it on 9/11 if they had more time


[15-Dec-18 09:41 PM] ononim#8141
>guy who thre shoe at Bush is a wifebeater


[15-Dec-18 09:42 PM] ononim#8141

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[15-Dec-18 09:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.


[15-Dec-18 11:47 PM] moonatik#3676
sad


[15-Dec-18 11:48 PM] moonatik#3676
source tho?


[15-Dec-18 11:50 PM] moonatik#3676
i can't find any info on this on the internet @ononim


[16-Dec-18 12:22 AM] ononim#8141
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1305456

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Election success of shoe-throwing woman-hater tells a lot about Ir...
Do you remember the young Iraqi man who, 10 years ago, threw a shoe at US President George W. Bush? He has become a member of the Iraqi Parliament, following the elections a few days ago.
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[16-Dec-18 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-putin-rap-music-20181215-story.html

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Putin sees a new threat and a target for crackdown: rap music
Russian President Vladimir Putin wants cultural leaders to try to control rap music.
https://www.trbimg.com/img-5c156e67/turbine/ct-putin-rap-music-20181215


[16-Dec-18 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe one day the people of Russia will be free.


[16-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
related https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/11/michigan-man-can-legally-blast-f-tha-pol

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It Took a Jury 9 Minutes to Decide a Man Could Legally Blast 'Fuck...
The deputy said he took issue with the word "fuck" in the song despite using it himself moments earlier.
https://d1jn4vzj53eli5.cloudfront.net/db/15445413243338.jpg


[16-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
MURICA


[16-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
>It Took a Jury 9 Minutes to Decide a Man Could Legally Blast 'Fuck tha Police' Near an Officer


[16-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
jesus, he faced 93 days in jail


[16-Dec-18 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do you guys have "disrespect towards authority" as a misdemeanor over there in the US, too?


[16-Dec-18 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a misdemeanor here in Brazil


[16-Dec-18 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which sucks


[16-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
nope, that's against the first amendment


[16-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck how do you stand that


[16-Dec-18 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dunno lol


[16-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can you openly criticize your government without fear of prosecution?


[16-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
lol no


[16-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
not in brazil


[16-Dec-18 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think we can in certain ways, but not anymore once Bolsonaro takes power, i guess


[16-Dec-18 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian conservatives are, oddly, opposed to free speech


[16-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can I ask a question


[16-Dec-18 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes?


[16-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you guys really still play the Sega Master System?


[16-Dec-18 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm afraid i don't know the answer to that


[16-Dec-18 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually, we're not so obsolete in regards to tech


[16-Dec-18 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of our middle class already uses US-quality apparel


[16-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't you get bootleg video games in most stores


[16-Dec-18 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can


[16-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So many of us do that, we don't even know if it's illegal or not, lol


[16-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well the legit version of games cost the equivalent of $90 USD for you guys IIRC


[16-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, taxes and tariffs and all that


[16-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a bootleg for $2


[16-Dec-18 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🤷‍♂️


[16-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/15/676894328/opinion-what-the-death-of-a-7-year-old-migrant-says-about-this-country

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Opinion: What The Death Of A 7-Year-Old Migrant Says About This Co...
A 7-year-old migrant died recently in custody of the U.S. NPR's Scott Simon reflects on what this death says about the U.S.
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[16-Dec-18 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/French-Workers-Go-on-General-Strike-in-Support-of-Yellow-Vests-20181214-0009.html?fbclid=IwAR3-ZFS8Gx-E1IPG5thF9-0cdThng5CmcYzsCxMA8o4BdrtmtMHxgoC1UPU

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French Workers Go on General Strike in Support of Yellow Vests
The leadership of the CGT said the call to strike is in support of the social and wage demands driven by the popular movement of the yellow vests.
https://www.telesurtv.net/__export/1544809430122/sites/telesur/img/2018/12/14/france_general_strike_in_support_of_yellow_vests.jpg_1810791533.jpg


[16-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 france becomes a social democracy like norway


[16-Dec-18 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you go france


[16-Dec-18 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://qz.com/1486377/global-shipper-maersk-says-it-will-eliminate-fossil-fuels-by-2050/

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The globe's biggest maritime shipping company is abandoning fossil...
The move will require new innovations to more cleanly fuel the ships that transport about 90% of internationally-traded goods.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/ap0208280982.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[16-Dec-18 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article223071520.html

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Quoting ‘The Lorax,’ federal judges reject pipeline’s effort...
The U.S. Court of Appeals in Richmond rejected another federal permit for the Atlantic Coast Pipeline. The court said the US Forest Service permit needs more analysis, review and public comment.
https://www.newsobserver.com/latest-news/odsv2p/picture223081240/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AT%20Virginia.jpg


[16-Dec-18 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/comcast-rejected-by-small-town-residents-vote-for-municipal-fiber-instead/

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Comcast rejected by small town—residents vote for municipal fibe...
Comcast offered to wire up Charlemont, Mass. for $462,000—town said, "no."
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/getty-no-vote-760x380.jpg


[16-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[16-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
this is exactly how taxes should be used, the only remaining prohblem is making sure it doesn't get super wasted


[16-Dec-18 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on municiple fiber?


[16-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
as in, don't let money meant for the munincipal fiber project be redirected to other things or granted to companies that local politicians have a stake in


[16-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is probably the worst civil revolt in France since the Paris Commune


[16-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is definitely worse than 1968


[16-Dec-18 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.facebook.com/Labourheartlands/videos/293088681323236/UzpfSTEwMDAwMjQ4NjA5MDQyODoxOTk4NDA2OTUzNTgxNjUy/

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Labour Heartlands
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Labour Heartlands
The Left marching in Paris on the Bastille with an air of liberation
There is no overstating the importance of a good marching band on the morale of demonstrators. 
"La fanfare invisible" has been...
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[16-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dr-seuss-lorax-makes-appearance-federal-court-ruling/story?id=59804334

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'The Lorax' makes appearance in federal court ruling on Atlantic C...
"We trust the United States Forest Service to 'speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues,'" Judge Stephanie Thacker wrote, quoting "The Lorax."
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/atlantic-coast-pipeline-ap-er-181213_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[16-Dec-18 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-paywalled.


[16-Dec-18 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
the trees: leftists aren't socialist


[16-Dec-18 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine if the forest service just told Republicans to get rekt


[16-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
also, exactly what I said would happen happened in france


[16-Dec-18 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
the yellow jacket protest is so popular that attempting to quell it through arrests (like the 1400 arrests last week) would just result in more people protesting (the strike)


[16-Dec-18 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, in the US https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/climate/zinke-interior-successor-bernhardt.html

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By CORAL DAVENPORT
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/climate/zinke-interior-successor-bernhardt.html
Zinke’s Likely Successor Is a Former Oil Lobbyist Who Has Influe...
With the Interior secretary's departure, the agency will likely be run for a time by David Bernhardt, a man who has played a central role in opening up public lands to drilling and mining.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/09/climate/00CLI-BERNHARDT1/00CLI-BERNHARDT1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[16-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not the worst I've seen from a federal court.


[16-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a motion filing response that linked to a meme as the courts official opinion about the parties request


[16-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was something like "As this court reads this parties continual requests, a certain .gif comes to mind" and then they linked a gif of DeCaprio rolling his eyes


[16-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Definitely the work of an intern


[16-Dec-18 05:05 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Crow I even went so far as saying this is the Second French Revolution lol


[16-Dec-18 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-girls-family-disputes-us-officials-account-of-her-death-2018-12

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The family of a 7-year-old migrant girl who died in Border Patrol ...
Despite what US officials say, Jakelin Caal was given food and water and was in good health during her journey to the US, her parents said Saturday.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c15c1f4630d9b2fc87bb504-1920-960.jpg


[16-Dec-18 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
US officials are trying to blame the journey for the 7 year old's death due to not being given adequate food or water


[16-Dec-18 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
also they made the father sign something claiming that his daughter was in good health when he could only read q'eqchi', which is a mayan language


[16-Dec-18 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
oh and spanish


[16-Dec-18 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
but the form he signed was english only


[16-Dec-18 05:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US has never been friendly towards outsiders (or so I'm told)- a persistent rumour here was that the embassy of the US in Indonesia would often refuse a visa application just because they can


[16-Dec-18 05:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but Trump and his administration is the worst of the worst


[16-Dec-18 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/i2YwK63

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Checkmate leftists, Venus has much more Carbon in the air and yet is still a planet. Looks like Global Warming is a hoax
https://i.imgur.com/i2YwK63.png

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[16-Dec-18 05:56 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[16-Dec-18 05:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[16-Dec-18 05:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Go and try landing on Venus


[16-Dec-18 05:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Fucking retard


[16-Dec-18 05:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Venus is perfectly safe to live on. 🔥


[16-Dec-18 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah our vacATION homes on venus are super habitable. Trump Venus: the habitable place to be where it;s always summer!


[16-Dec-18 06:08 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1074327244741464064?s=19

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Steve Milloy (@JunkScience)
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1074327244741464064?s=19
If you want to trigger climate bedwetters, tell them that CO2 cannot destroy the planet. https://t.co/ryh7KxX4xr
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[16-Dec-18 06:09 PM] Mikey#7286
😂 😂 😂 😂


[16-Dec-18 06:10 PM] Mikey#7286
"I got destroyed, quick, I should call them triggered!"


[16-Dec-18 06:21 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053

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[16-Dec-18 06:27 PM] Mikey#7286
We should send him to Venus so it's one less moron tbh


[16-Dec-18 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we send most climate deniers to venus? it would solve a lot of problems


[16-Dec-18 06:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[16-Dec-18 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Dec-18 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/schumer-trump-s-temper-tantrum-over-wall-funding-leading-shutdown-n948521

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/schumer-trump-s-temper-tantrum-over-wall-funding-leading-shutdown-n948521
Schumer: Trump's 'temper tantrum' over wall funding is leading to ...
The Senate minority leader said Sunday that it's up to the president to come to the table to prevent a partial shutdown.
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[16-Dec-18 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://fortune.com/2018/12/16/senate-democrats-stephen-miller-trump-government-shutdown/

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http://fortune.com/2018/12/16/senate-democrats-stephen-miller-trump-government-shutdown/
Senate Democrats Say Preventing a Government Shutdown Now Rides on...
Meanwhile, Trump adviser Stephen Miller says the administration is willing to shut down the government.
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[16-Dec-18 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.facebook.com/josepgodedjournalist/videos/438508966680665/

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Josep
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Josep Goded
VIDEO: A person paints on dictator Franco's grave.
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[16-Dec-18 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
oldie (october 31) but still


[16-Dec-18 07:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Maybe Trump doesn't realize that no one wants to fund his wall *because it's a frikking stupid idea*?


[16-Dec-18 07:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I mean the Berlin Wall failed for a reason


[16-Dec-18 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd credit him and say he;s using the wall tantrum to distract everyone form soemthing but he's not smart enough for that


[16-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nile#1441
What is even going on in this video @ononim


[16-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
Spanish artist defacing tomb of a dictator and a fash scum known as Franciso Franco with Red Dove and "Por la Libertad” (for freedom)


[16-Dec-18 07:17 PM] Nile#1441
Cringe


[16-Dec-18 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile no u


[16-Dec-18 07:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw the Spanish king supported democracy against Franco :^)


[16-Dec-18 07:20 PM] ononim#8141
Ye, him having a decorated grave in the memorial that supposed to comeroroate fallen of the civil war instead of an unmarked grave is really cringy, I agree with you


[16-Dec-18 07:21 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not saying I like Franco, I'm saying the act in the video is cringe.


[16-Dec-18 07:21 PM] Nile#1441
Franco's one good thing was having Juan Carlos succeed him.


[16-Dec-18 07:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So?


[16-Dec-18 07:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You do agree that Franco sucked


[16-Dec-18 07:22 PM] Nile#1441
Ideally the Spanish Civil War wouldn't have happened, but I'd rather we have gone down the route we had already.


[16-Dec-18 07:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/rightwingwatch/status/1073975002804948993?s=21

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[16-Dec-18 07:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"AAAA PLANET OF THE APES AAAAA GOD DAMN IT ALL"


[16-Dec-18 07:25 PM] Nile#1441
Alex has always been this way.


[16-Dec-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
"That man is going to have a massive fatal heart attack in the next 10 years & all his followers are going to insist it’s a govt conspiracy instead of just bacon & impotent rage."


[16-Dec-18 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/421578-giuliani-on-whether-trump-will-sit-for-interview-with-mueller-over

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Giuliani: Trump will only sit for interview with Mueller ‘over m...
President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani on Sunday dismissed the possibility that Trump will sit for an interview with the special counsel, saying it would only happen "over my dead body."
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[16-Dec-18 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Giuliani don't threaten us with something good.


[16-Dec-18 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/421580-giuliani-indicates-trump-tower-moscow-discussions-took-place-up

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Giuliani indicates Trump Tower Moscow discussions took place up un...
Rudy Giuliani indicated Sunday that President Trump's former longtime attorney, Michael Cohen, may have pursued discussions about a possible Trump Tower Moscow development up to November 2016.
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[16-Dec-18 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well i mean, if you insist


[16-Dec-18 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🔫


[16-Dec-18 07:52 PM] Arvid#8335
At this point, I can not picture an actually intelligent person supporting Trump. If you support Trump, there's a 99% chance you are fucking stupid.


[16-Dec-18 07:54 PM] Arvid#8335
Like, there is no fucking way you can actually be smart and support someone who is this obviously a snake oil salesman, unless you are one of the billionaires who benefits from this pro-corporate policies.


[16-Dec-18 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"the stock market is great therefore the economy is great"


[16-Dec-18 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not how this works


[16-Dec-18 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not how any of this works


[16-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republican economic growth is like gorging on cake for hours


[16-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tastes good now, but you're going to puke later.


[16-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And you've done this several times.


[16-Dec-18 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republican economic growth never lasts and has been followed by major recessions since Reagan


[16-Dec-18 08:03 PM] Arvid#8335
Trump fanboys are the absolute worst also, I can't feel bad about being mean towards them because they themselves act like fucking pricks most of the time, and then turn around and play the victim.


[16-Dec-18 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republican economics are the honey boo boo's mom of economics


[16-Dec-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed no one points out "This always happens with the GOP"


[16-Dec-18 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at what happened in 1991 and 2008.


[16-Dec-18 08:04 PM] Arvid#8335
Yeah


[16-Dec-18 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lot's of people point it out tons of times, just no one in the gop listens


[16-Dec-18 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan fucking trashed the economy

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[16-Dec-18 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trickle down system is mroe liek the cheese constipation system


[16-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people forget that near the end GW Bush was actually giving out fucking free money to protect his legacy


[16-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like holy shit he was bribing America basically


[16-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck all the memes about him being folksy or painting


[16-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Incompetent war criminal and nothing else


[16-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like his dad


[16-Dec-18 08:07 PM] Arvid#8335
^This


[16-Dec-18 08:07 PM] Arvid#8335
And now Trump is so shit people are starting to forget about how bad George W. Bush was.


[16-Dec-18 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of george bushes final moves on hsi way out was to sign an oil drilling bill


[16-Dec-18 08:08 PM] Arvid#8335
Really though, it's just that the GOP is a really fucking bad political party.


[16-Dec-18 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure if that's what lead to the BP spill or if that was a different oil drill


[16-Dec-18 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are the logical conclusion of corporate corruption fused with the logical conclusion of 40's-50's nostalgia


[16-Dec-18 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also possibly some good ol' fashion millionaire inbreeding


[16-Dec-18 09:01 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Do you guys have positive reviews of *any* President in US history?


[16-Dec-18 09:01 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I seem to only hear bad things about them


[16-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/RHjAdYy7kC8

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[16-Dec-18 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought obama was an ok guy, his problems were more congressional than presidential, and while nixon was a crook he did found the EPA so there is soem good int here


[16-Dec-18 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was Nixon


[16-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is anti-environment


[16-Dec-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
But all good presidents disappeared after 1945


[16-Dec-18 09:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Just buy clean water like Trump. https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bd168ccf8d797d61a6c14237076808d1e304ac86/c=0-103-5123-2998/local/-/media/2017/11/15/USATODAY/USATODAY/636463615931490518-EPA-USA-TRUMP-ASIA-95354971.JPG?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop

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[16-Dec-18 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when was jfk again?


[16-Dec-18 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish he hadnt been murdered


[16-Dec-18 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
JFK was early-mid sixties.


[16-Dec-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
But we could have avoided JFK and most of the stink of JFK, had five minutes of the 1942 Democratic Convention had gone differently, and Henry A Wallace beat out Truman for the VP nomination.


[16-Dec-18 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the St Louis Machine put through Truman, and closed nominations early to avoid Wallace's nomination because everyone knew FDR was dying and no one wanted the commie-lite.


[16-Dec-18 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKrIdSPkHI

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Cinema Insiders
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Henry A. Wallace Common Man Speech
From a 1942 Paramount documentary short titled "Paramount Victory Short No. T2-3: The Price of Victory" In it, Vice-President Henry A. Wallace narrates a pat...
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[16-Dec-18 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, can't say no-one wanted him because he had tremendous and wide-spread public support.


[16-Dec-18 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the powers that be in the DNC didn't like him


[16-Dec-18 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see the white hosue becoming significantly shortstaffed over the next year as trump drives people out and no oen wants to risk their future careers working under him


[16-Dec-18 09:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[16-Dec-18 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**Jeb!** should become staff at the white house tbqh


[16-Dec-18 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jeb is every position


[16-Dec-18 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is the jebhouse now


[16-Dec-18 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the jebel office


[16-Dec-18 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeb!-ebel's


[16-Dec-18 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the secretary of jebucation


[16-Dec-18 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the environmental jebtection agency


[16-Dec-18 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The House of Jebs!


[16-Dec-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jebgress


[16-Dec-18 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congrajeb?


[16-Dec-18 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Jeb!stitution of the United States


[16-Dec-18 10:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Article 1: Jeb! is our supreme overlord and is entitled to both immortality and 100% chance of winning all elections.


[16-Dec-18 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
article 1: Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb


[16-Dec-18 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
article 2: jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb jeb jebjeb jeb jeb jeb jeb


[16-Dec-18 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suddenly washington turns into a jeb version of the gary vault from fallout 3


[16-Dec-18 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Washingjeb


[16-Dec-18 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vault 108: jeb


[16-Dec-18 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Washington DC, formally known as The Federal City and Washington City today becomes Jeb DC, Jeb City, or The Federal Jeb.


[16-Dec-18 10:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6497595/Gingerbread-men-banned-Scottish-Parliament-new-drive-stamp-sexism.html

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Gingerbread men banned at Scottish Parliament
Gingerbread men have been replaced by gingerbread persons in the Scottish Parliament’s coffee shop in case the traditional name causes offence.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/14/21/7441408-0-image-a-7_1544822873767.jpg


[16-Dec-18 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-ficus-to-leave-for-virginia-arboretum-after-1830989844

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White House Ficus To Leave For Virginia Arboretum After Declining ...
WASHINGTON—As the Trump administration scrambles to find a replacement for outgoing advisor John Kelly, officials announced Monday that a high-level White House ficus would leave for the State Arboretum of Virginia after declining the president’s offer to be chief of staf...
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[16-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People make fun of Jeb! but remember he helped steal the 2000 election.


[16-Dec-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow.


[16-Dec-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**Jeb!!**


[16-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-hold-over-trump/#7e1d781a48f6

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Mueller Exposes Putin's Hold Over Trump
Mueller Investigates A Massive Election Fraud By Trump With Five Main Areas Of Criminality
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fstevedenning%2Ffiles%2F2018%2F12%2FTrump-conspiracues-r1.jpg


[16-Dec-18 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk-Te0VxvYA

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[17-Dec-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking in regards to Republican vs. Democrat economics


[17-Dec-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's supply-side vs. demand-side


[17-Dec-18 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are "if you build it, they will come", Democrats are "if they can come, it will be built"


[17-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former falls completely flat because, as it turns out, products aren't the main expense people hav


[17-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that pumping up investment and profits leads to cheaper goods and more workers, and then the workers hav disposable income because of the cheaper goods


[17-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the reality is those workers then get fukked on housing etc. and can no longer afford goods


[17-Dec-18 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav a big business that's not actually doing anything to help anyone except the rich.


[17-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, with demand-side, the idea is you giv everyone so much disposable income, they buy more and more goods, and businesses spring up to meet demand, as while it's *costly* to do business, you still make a profit selling whatchamadoojiggers to the huge middle class


[17-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supply-side economics grows the GDP, but also poverty


[17-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Demand-side economics grows the middle class, but doesn't grow as fast


[17-Dec-18 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
jiggers


[17-Dec-18 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_jigger

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Hydraulic jigger
A hydraulic jigger is a hydraulically powered mechanical winch.
From the mid-19th century, hydraulic power became available throughout the increasingly modern dockyards and warehouses. This was generated centrally and distributed by pipework, either around a dock estate, or a...
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[17-Dec-18 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
hydraulic igger


[17-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, supply-side economics is great if you want INNOVATION and GDP and URBANIZATION


[17-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people concentrated in small areas sharing ideas and being crooks and passing the money between each other leads to, well, Silicon Valley


[17-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only trouble is that also means tons of poverty, especially anywhere outside those urban areas


[17-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even within them, as people struggle to pay for rising costs


[17-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican policies may very well hav hastened the introduction of the digital age and Amazon etc.


[17-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the cost of making sure millennials are jobless bums


[17-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...Republicans hav effectively created basement dwellers on the internet turning to communism


[17-Dec-18 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In hindsight, not their best strategic decision.


[17-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
they'll still blame it on millennials instead of trying to correct the problem


[17-Dec-18 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s less expensive to do that so yeah


[17-Dec-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's easier and faster to kill an economy by hoarding the wealth to a small few while surroundign yourself with walls and guards to keep the people from rising up against you than it is to care for your nation  with a thriving economy and plenty of jobs that keep it going.


[17-Dec-18 04:45 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Crow Republicans blaming Millenials? No surprises


[17-Dec-18 04:46 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
My take is that as a conservative-majority party, they would be subscribed to old ideas and opinions, and would handily blame the newer generation for all problems including those that were actually said "old guard" 's fault to begin with


[17-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woooooooow https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/magazine/oakland-warehouse-fire-ghost-ship.html

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He Helped Build an Artists’ Utopia. Now He Faces Trial for 36 De...
Max Harris did chores and collected rent at the artists’ warehouse where he lived. Now he faces trial for the deaths at a concert there — including some of his close friends.
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[17-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so the tl;dr here is


[17-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Place where housing is unaffordable had some starving artist types gather together in an old warehouse to create basically a giant deathtrap


[17-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the city KNEW


[17-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they didn't want to pay for their fire dept.


[17-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the electrical utility knew


[17-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they didn't care either


[17-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so eventually, improper wiring sparked a blaze during a concert that killed 3 dozen people


[17-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then the city dodged all the blame, got the two people who started the artist place into jail, and proceeded to treat them as poorly as it could


[17-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy's plea bargain was thrown out because his girlfriend wasn't crying enuff


[17-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
guards will burst in and search him just to take away his soap and deoderant


[17-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
because how dare you be hygienic


[17-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he can't tell the psychologists how he feels because then they'll take away his sokks too because he might hang himself


[17-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
America.


[17-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
things won't be better when democrats are in charge


[17-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this manner, no


[17-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what it looks like among Democrats


[17-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party's nearly half-conservative, the type of conservatives that don't care so much about keeping out immigrants as they do fukking over the poor and blakks


[17-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Oakland, keep in mind


[17-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same shirking of responsibility and intolerance for being unable to pay for things the law requires, even as the city does the exact fukking same.


[17-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/16/donald-trump-defame-nbc-snl-twitter

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Donald Trump Suggests Unfair Media Coverage of His Presidency Coul...
"Should be tested in courts, can’t be legal? Only defame & belittle! Collusion?"
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[17-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
"Trump's tweet is as wrongheaded as it is incoherent. (Collusion? What?) The First Amendment protects the right of the people to speak out against the government, even if the president thinks such speech is one-sided or unfair. This has already been tested in court numerous times throughout the Bill of Rights' 200-year history."


[17-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Arvid#8335
lmao


[17-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Kekarot#0296
Well, I mean when there's 4 straight years of nonstop beratement by the same three or four major networks. There's a difference between a group of individual speaking out againsrt the President and 4 multibillion dollar corporations telling everyone else to think that way 24 hours a day.


[17-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
>person has opinions that are completely insane, contradictory, based mostly on idiocy and hatred


[17-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
>pretty much everyone with the money to talk about it but the cadre of people he has deep corrupt financial connections to speaks out against such things as he TAKES POWER IN THE HIGHEST POLITICAL OFFICE


[17-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
HURR SAME THREE OR FOUR MAJOR NETWORKS JUST HAV IT OUT FOR HIM, GUYS


[17-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
4 straight years?


[17-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Kekarot#0296
Since his candidacy.


[17-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
barely anyone talked about trump until he won the nomination


[17-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
which was in 2016


[17-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
nobody thought he would win the nomination


[17-Dec-18 06:02 AM] Kekarot#0296
Fair enough.


[17-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
but that's one of the few sacrifices you have to make to becom a public official, people can make as much fun of you as they want, and the best possible thing to do is to ignore them


[17-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[17-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you say stupid shit


[17-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually someone will call it out as stupid


[17-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fact even some of the media is okay with the president routinely lying and admitting he obstructed justice to the American people is extremely disturbing.


[17-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Kekarot#0296
When did he say that?


[17-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That he obstructed justice? Pretty much every time he talks about Jeff Sessions or James Comey


[17-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He routinely talks about how he fired Comey for political reasons, how he wouldn't've chosen Sessions if he knew Sessions would betray him by avoiding a political conflict of interest, and how he thinks Mueller is just out to get him


[17-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
(trying to get people to believe a prosecutor investigating you is not credible is obstruction of justice btw)


[17-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Nile#1441
America needs to collapse.


[17-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/Which-current-country-has-the-most-Libertarian-society

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Which current country has the most Libertarian society? - Quora
I graphed the information from the “State of World Liberty” on my Nolan chart. Removing the explanation of the chart, you can see the countries better: Collapsing the countries onto the (green) Libertarian-Authoritarian line: The Most Free Countri...


[17-Dec-18 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
what exactly is this chart? https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-056f7cbf2263f4260c0c5cdca0ff4a28

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[17-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
it looks like the political compass rotated 45 degrees


[17-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[17-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Kekarot#0296
I think it's mirrored too


[17-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
it seems more relevant and accurate than the political compass


[17-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart

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Nolan Chart
The Nolan Chart is a political spectrum diagram created by American libertarian activist David Nolan in 1969. The chart divides human political views into two vectors—economic opinion and personal opinion—to produce a type of Cartesian chart. It expands political view ana...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Nolan_chart_normal.png


[17-Dec-18 06:17 AM] Kekarot#0296
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/quiz/

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PolitiScales
Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
http://politiscales.net/images/facebook-preview.png


[17-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Kekarot#0296
I personally like this one, tbh


[17-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/

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The Quiz - The Advocates for Self-Government
See where you land on the World’s Smallest Political Quiz.


[17-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
I got this https://www.theadvocates.org/results/centrist?x=80&y=50

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https://www.theadvocates.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Centrist.png


[17-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Kekarot#0296
https://i.gyazo.com/f9fbd996b759b474eb2efeea67b26e3a.png

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[17-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Kekarot#0296
I'm definitely right libertarian.


[17-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
no, that's right centrist


[17-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Kekarot#0296
Well, there we're really a whole lot of questions, so the accuracy is questionable.


[17-Dec-18 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
unless you mean how you view yourself


[17-Dec-18 06:23 AM] Kekarot#0296
That's what I meant


[17-Dec-18 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
mine https://i.imgur.com/OQAtFna.png

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[17-Dec-18 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm right on the border of left, libertarian, and centrist, so it doesn't really tell me much lol


[17-Dec-18 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
try this one http://www.politicalsextant.com/


[17-Dec-18 06:27 AM] Kekarot#0296
https://i.gyazo.com/9ff99170f745feea40aeeebdcbef4fc4.png

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[17-Dec-18 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
more questions, and more of a focus on actual ideologies and not charts


[17-Dec-18 06:28 AM] Kekarot#0296
That's politiscales


[17-Dec-18 06:32 AM] Kekarot#0296
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=-2&2=-2&3=-1&4=-2&5=-1&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=1&11=1&12=-2&13=-2&14=2&16=-2&17=1&18=2&19=1&20=-2&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=0&25=1&26=-1&27=1&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-1&32=0&33=-2&34=-1&35=-2&36=1&37=2&38=-1&39=2


[17-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Kekarot#0296
Definitely don't like Neocons


[17-Dec-18 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
this is what I got on politiscales https://i.imgur.com/pMFkKGQ.png

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[17-Dec-18 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, have you taken this before?


[17-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/

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PolitiScales
Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
http://politiscales.net/images/facebook-preview.png


[17-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
this one too https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/

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The Quiz - The Advocates for Self-Government
See where you land on the World’s Smallest Political Quiz.


[17-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
>Pragmatism : politics objectively boil down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available.


[17-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
I also got this stamp thingie


[17-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Just to show how out of touch the president is with Americans: he thinks people give a shit about SNL and look to it as a primary source of political satire


[17-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To the point where he wants to challenge their free speech rights in courts


[17-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/2eSM9wr.png

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[17-Dec-18 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd argue that random deep fried memes on FB pages are more relevant sources of satire


[17-Dec-18 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
I'm still trying to figure out what the white percentage spaces between each bar means


[17-Dec-18 07:28 AM] Nile#1441
Middle ground I guess


[17-Dec-18 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.imgur.com/UlFpdOA.png

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[17-Dec-18 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Me


[17-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Nile#1441
Me

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[17-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Aww you get a cooler flag


[17-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I get the EU+a Scandinavian country


[17-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Nile#1441
yeet


[17-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
my flag is kinda gay tbh


[17-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Nile#1441
What's the little symbol underneath your results mean @Itsthinking I haven't seen that particular one


[17-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why it says I favor communism so much


[17-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/help/

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PolitiScales
Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
http://politiscales.net/images/facebook-preview.png


[17-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue


[17-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
Communism is a vast political doctrine. In this test a majority for communism silmply signifies that you are for a public property of the means of production.

Capitalism is as well an ambivalent concept. In this test a majority for capitalism silmply signifies that you are for a private property of the means of production.


[17-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really like capitalism I guess


[17-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Nile#1441
I got these

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[17-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
where did you find that


[17-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Nile#1441
Should be right underneath your results


[17-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
at the bottom of the results page


[17-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, I'm a Pragmatist


[17-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
it looks like you got pragmatism too


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
radical pragmatists unite


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My only "communist" inkling is that I think a worker-owned corporation is the ideal


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not that every corporation should be that


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I realize I literally just said that the workers owning the means of production is the ideal but


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...not a commie


[17-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Nile#1441
Commie @Itsthinking


[17-Dec-18 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Investment plans work


[17-Dec-18 07:35 AM] Nile#1441
I don't think much about economics really, the only thing I really believe in in that regard is distributism.


[17-Dec-18 07:36 AM] Kekarot#0296
You got a higher nationalism and conservatism sscore than me


[17-Dec-18 07:36 AM] Kekarot#0296
There is hope for this Discord server, after all.


[17-Dec-18 07:36 AM] Nile#1441
Haha


[17-Dec-18 07:37 AM] Nile#1441
I'm rather nationalist in my thinking, and rather reactionary even.


[17-Dec-18 07:38 AM] Kekarot#0296
One wonders why. 🤔


[17-Dec-18 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_sweats in internationalist_


[17-Dec-18 07:38 AM] Kekarot#0296
You alt-right?


[17-Dec-18 07:39 AM] Nile#1441
Nope


[17-Dec-18 07:39 AM] Kekarot#0296
It's okay. Your secret's safe  with me 😉


[17-Dec-18 07:39 AM] Nile#1441
High Tory is how I tend to describe myself tbh


[17-Dec-18 07:40 AM] Kekarot#0296
I guess I', a paleocon


[17-Dec-18 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m0=69&m1=5&s1=5&s0=88&c1=36&c0=33&femi=24&j0=76&j1=14&p0=40&p1=29&b0=74&t1=31&t0=36&e1=40&e0=33&prag=67

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PolitiScales
Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
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[17-Dec-18 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
what about that tiny one


[17-Dec-18 07:41 AM] Nile#1441
I can't really stand the alt-right anyways, a lot of the people associated with it are insufferable


[17-Dec-18 07:42 AM] Kekarot#0296
It's pragmatism.


[17-Dec-18 07:42 AM] Kekarot#0296
Yeah, that word certainly comes with a lot of... baggage.


[17-Dec-18 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/

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The Quiz - The Advocates for Self-Government
See where you land on the World’s Smallest Political Quiz.


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking The main deal is like the idea of profit incentive being always superior


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nile#1441
Sometimes for good reason.


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
factually, it isn't


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
very short and simple quiz


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
profit incentive doesn't work well with externalities


[17-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are very common in services that deal with people's wellbeing or that affect everyone


[17-Dec-18 07:45 AM] Kekarot#0296
But the service sector, like any other sector of the economy needs to incentivize its workers, at least somewhat, to draw in labor.


[17-Dec-18 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The advantages of profit incentive are that it automatically forces equilibrium with supply and demand, it can make you competitive, and it continually forces efficiency


[17-Dec-18 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about the service sector


[17-Dec-18 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about *services*


[17-Dec-18 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a broader thing, it's anything that's not a good


[17-Dec-18 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And really, I'm talking about goods too


[17-Dec-18 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
there's some services that need to get done which will never be profitable


[17-Dec-18 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea being to mostly think about things from a "work that needs to be done to improve society" level


[17-Dec-18 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, workers don't feel the profit incentive


[17-Dec-18 07:48 AM] Kekarot#0296
There are a lot of services people think aren't profitable that are.
Sewage treatment comes to mind.


[17-Dec-18 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
only the leader(s) of the business feel the profit incentive


[17-Dec-18 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether something is profitable isn't directly a sign of whether it should be public or private


[17-Dec-18 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is that the profit incentive and what benefits society the most don't always *line up*


[17-Dec-18 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because society may feel impacts not captured in profit, which are called externalities


[17-Dec-18 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dumping toxic waste that causes others economic damage is an example of a negative externality


[17-Dec-18 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
similarly, dumping raw sewage


[17-Dec-18 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And making it easier for people to deal with their own sewage would be a positive externality, you don't feel the economic impact on them in *your* profits as the sewage treatment plant


[17-Dec-18 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you only feel what they pay you vs your costs


[17-Dec-18 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they may not pay you very much relative to how much they are getting as economic benefit from having their sewage dealt with.


[17-Dec-18 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when there are these large externalities, two things can be done:


[17-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) Subsidize/penalize the business accordingly, artificially making it feel the externalities in its profit, correcting it to the correct level of business for society's needs


[17-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
2) Make the service public, so that the correct level of business is determined by the gov't (which can capture these externalities with people's voting behavior)


[17-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no laissez-faire solution


[17-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Short of a random competing business without those externalities just magically showing up.


[17-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Kekarot#0296
But publicizing something doesn't mean you'll eliminate an externality. The government could just as easily dump raw sewage in the water and hide it like any business owner.


[17-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But many externalities are inherent in how something is produced.


[17-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but the gov't isn't generally inclined to do that when it doesn't care much about the money


[17-Dec-18 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike business, gov't isn't generally interested in maximizing how much money it has


[17-Dec-18 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cares to some extent, but it's mostly interested in staying in power, which doesn't require high profits (unlike with a business)


[17-Dec-18 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, laws can be put in place that make this difficult, and generally it's harder for the gov't to get around that kind of oversight


[17-Dec-18 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
this in practice reduces the likelihood the gov't will do that particular kind of shitty behavior.


[17-Dec-18 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, solutions 1 and 2 tend to resemble each other


[17-Dec-18 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more gov't messes with something, the more that something ends up resembling gov't


[17-Dec-18 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
as effectively, gov't is taking control.


[17-Dec-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, there are certain services that REALLY benefit from doing this.


[17-Dec-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, firefighting and police.


[17-Dec-18 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both hav enormous positive externalities compared to profit potential


[17-Dec-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the US has gotten so shitty, the police in some instances aren't given much budget...but are forced to balance the budget...so they use civil forfeiture to make money selling stuff they find on people they arrest


[17-Dec-18 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
An example of profit incentive corrupting an otherwise noble institution.


[17-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then there's healthcare


[17-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the gov't is there to prevent you from getting shot or burned, well it probably should also be there when you hav a heart attakk too


[17-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
gigantic positive externalities.


[17-Dec-18 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And education, same deal.


[17-Dec-18 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
educated workers provide so much benefit to businesses it's not even funny


[17-Dec-18 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
educated, healthy workers that do not hav to worry about getting shot or invaded by the Chinese or catching on fire really help businesses not die.


[17-Dec-18 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the private sector doing any of that


[17-Dec-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Won't work for firefighting even if they were tied to insurance, too hard to get people to pay


[17-Dec-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar deal with cops


[17-Dec-18 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare...getting people to pay when you are FORCED to provide care regardless is really, really hard and leads to them hiring debt collectors and attorneys and making up false charges on bills to make up for it...


[17-Dec-18 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a ton of wasted money and when people just plain die from a lapse in coverage and having diabetes...that's one less worker in the market.


[17-Dec-18 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, private education can pikk up some slakk from public, but it can't replace it


[17-Dec-18 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
large swaths of the country would be without any education.


[17-Dec-18 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and everyone's up in arms about carbon taxes etc., but...coal and oil hav massive negative externalities that could seriously destroy our economy in 100 years.


[17-Dec-18 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroying your economy for short-term profit is a bad idea, I don't care how much you love the free market.


[17-Dec-18 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(See recent gov't report on the effects of climate change)


[17-Dec-18 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, solar and wind deserve those subsidies just for the competitive effect, since carbon tax seems to be off the table.


[17-Dec-18 08:11 AM] Kekarot#0296
So, all these programs for healthcare and education and emergency services and sewage treatment or what have you, cost money. Money that the government is going to have to get from somewhere, usually the taxpayer. The government's goal might not be profit now. but when its budget inflates two or three times in twenty years, I guarantee you it will. When a doctor treats a patient, he earns a wage, he uses materials and tools to treat that person, those all cost money. And when you FORCE him to do it because of a government mandate, he's going to provide worse service, becasue he'll be overworked. The incentive that drove the capable people to that job will slowly be driven away and quality of service will decrease. The service you have left will be understaffed, underequiped, and unable to provide for the people that need them, leading to a big negative externality.


[17-Dec-18 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Profit incentive doesn't exist just because the budget is big, it requires that some in power *benefits personally* from the profit existing or being high. If you can keep people from siphoning off funds (oversight is important), and don't make a huge deal out of gov't surplus, it crushes profit incentive.


[17-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for doctors and gov't mandates...you can't just giv your doctor a salary? Nothing about a gov't vs. a business having a worker effects how they're paid inherently.


[17-Dec-18 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, American workers are massively overworked in the private sector, while over in the UK, doctors aren't really overworked in the NHS, so it doesn't seem like the data bears out this gov't=overworked idea.


[17-Dec-18 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that isn't a negative externality


[17-Dec-18 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's missing a positive externality by not having the proper level of service.


[17-Dec-18 08:16 AM] Kekarot#0296
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/29/nurses-overworked-forced-leave-patients-die-alone-survey-finds/

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Hospital patients are being left to die alone, as nurses try to look after 14 cases at a time, a new report warns.
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[17-Dec-18 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the NHS the last two years has been chronically underfunded because it turns out, Theresa May hates funding things.


[17-Dec-18 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
UK is consistently defunding the NHS


[17-Dec-18 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means not hiring sufficient nurses


[17-Dec-18 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you'll find similar levels of overworked nurses in the US, because of a shortage of people coming out of med school combined with inefficiencies at hospitals


[17-Dec-18 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/nurses-overworked-understaffed-070714

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Nurses: Overworked and Understaffed on the Front Lines
Why are so many nurses dissatisfied on the job, and what can be done to improve things?
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[17-Dec-18 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
If a government is going to seek to maximize profit as you insist, why wouldn't a for profit hospital? Thing about certain industries is they have local monopolies, if I'm hurt I need help now I'm not going to shop around for the best deal and even if I did in advance somehow I might not survive the trip


[17-Dec-18 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the idea is to reduce/eliminate profit incentive, and not having the gov't do it isn't going to do that


[17-Dec-18 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the worst, it'll only slightly reduce it, but it's ridiculous to believe profit incentive will *increase* with the gov't instead of an organization structured around profit incentive.


[17-Dec-18 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Hospitals are high barrier to entry fields which makes them prone to monopoly or at best oligopoly which often act as monopolies especially without government oversight


[17-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Kekarot#0296
Yeah, a high barrier to entry for healthcare is a pretty good thing


[17-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily


[17-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Kekarot#0296
And hospitals are complicated things/ They have multimillion dollar machinery. Operate 24/7 and have to hire extremely skille labor


[17-Dec-18 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
A high barrier to entry can prevent innovation by competitors


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Kekarot#0296
When an mri breaks, you cant have just anyone fix it.


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And can lead to centralization


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you want barriers of entry to be as low as is practical


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Kekarot#0296
When someone needs an operation, that surgeon better be the best


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
A perfect surgeon is ideal, but not always practical


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Kekarot#0296
And I'm saying in some fields, thats not possible.


[17-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the perfect surgeon costs more the marginal cost may not be worth it


[17-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you might want other, less skilled surgeons as alternatives, who provide a benefit overall for people who can pay less


[17-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but to keep their license doctors and pharmacists have to keep learning which means somewhere doctors are still doing research


[17-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you do stikk to really good surgeons, you need to eliminate that problem of people not being able to afford them


[17-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means either massive subsidies on the demand side


[17-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
or public healthcare.


[17-Dec-18 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
This is beside the point but it probably won't be physically possible to make more MRI scanners after 3-4 years from now


[17-Dec-18 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
and the ones in commission will be in crisis


[17-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll figure it out eventually.


[17-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Necessity's the mother of invention etc.


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, private healthcare wastes shittons of money on advertising


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
why? what's wrong with MRI scanner production?


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Helium


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a reason most countries hav a ban on ads for pharmaceuticals


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Helium


[17-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
oh, yeah


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Kekarot#0296
What ? someone can't afford an extremely skilled laborer and so we need the government to force bunch of worse ones to provide that service?


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently, a solution was came up with that removes the need to resupply helium often to an MRI machine


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's expensive


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Force?


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Kekarot#0296
That will only make it worse.


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] byte[]#2610
In what model is the government forcing anyone


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would the gov't be *forcing* anyone, let alone *worse* ones to provide the service?


[17-Dec-18 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't can just offer jobs to skilled surgeons


[17-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if there aren't enuff skilled surgeons, it can pay tuition for more to be produced


[17-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Kekarot#0296
>you might want other, less skilled surgeons as alternatives, who provide a benefit overall for people who can pay less


[17-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Kekarot#0296
As alternatives yes


[17-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was talking about with a private service


[17-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A competing surgeon may hav less skill, but be cheaper


[17-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
If anything reducing the cost of school would lead to an increase in doctors even at the same requirements because a larger pool of people can now afford to become MD's


[17-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally, you hav skilled surgeons who everyone can afford


[17-Dec-18 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means subsidies on the consumer end...or the gov't pays the surgeons even tho it's not the most profitable solution


[17-Dec-18 08:36 AM] Kekarot#0296
And where does that money come from? It comes from you. It's not someone starting a business and deciding to charge a premium for a better service, it's the government offloading the cost of an extremely skilled laborer to the taxpayer, even if they don't want it.


[17-Dec-18 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason I'm not an engineer right now is because it costs too much


[17-Dec-18 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
taxpayers are generally in favor of public healthcare


[17-Dec-18 08:37 AM] Kekarot#0296
Yeah, med sschool is expensive


[17-Dec-18 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
even republicans


[17-Dec-18 08:37 AM] Kekarot#0296
I know.


[17-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Kekarot#0296
That's because people view healthcare as a right.


[17-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That cost to the taxpayer comes bakk thru the positive externalities, however


[17-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately, the system sustains itself


[17-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a personal freedom argument against the tax is absurd


[17-Dec-18 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to lead to more money for people overall


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it should be the net result, not the taxation in a vacuum, that should be considered.


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if anyone has interpreted the right to life in the constitution to include healthcare


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Kekarot#0296
Healthcare is, ultimately, labor. You are not entitled to someone else's labor.


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I actually am


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
See, I drive on roads


[17-Dec-18 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
And live in buildings


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
We live in a society and we all use items and infrastructure built on someone else's labor.


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is an arbitrary construct defining entitlement and labor


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I regularly benefit from labor that is not my own, why is this different?


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Kekarot#0296
And you have to pay for that building and roads


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes...thru taxes


[17-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which you are arguing against?


[17-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, have you taken the politiscales quiz?


[17-Dec-18 08:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow I'd like to keep my quantifiable bullshits to a minimum


[17-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
for some reason it thinks I'm a lot more communist than I think I am


[17-Dec-18 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC, its questions are mainly really abstract stuff focusing on how business interacts with gov't, which can lead to oddity in results because you may not understand the question


[17-Dec-18 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and because a pragmatic approach screws up capitalist ideals in certain areas.


[17-Dec-18 08:44 AM] Kekarot#0296
Some of that wording in those quizes can be ambiguous.


[17-Dec-18 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's also translated from french


[17-Dec-18 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
which is a source of mistranslation


[17-Dec-18 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://github.com/RadicaliseesSurInternet/politiscales/issues/14

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[17-Dec-18 08:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, on the health care topic: the real issue concerning a public option vs. something else isn't fundamentally whether or not a doctor isn't getting paid or not, at the end of the day the doctor is still being paid for their labor, as is the equipment being used in the hospital. The issue at heart is in what way money is used to pay for it. Insurance companies probably can't validate their business model very well since at the end of the day their superiority historically had less to do with them being effective in providing coverage vs the other means that were available at their time; since the insurance companies had to lobby congress to kill off the possibilities of alternative models (the unions' for instance had their own membership health pools, where members would pay a little bit into a collective pool and take out of it when someone needed it to cover medical expenses, physician co-ops were a thing, and so on). So private insurers I suppose just toss all their merit on the doctors as if not paying them to pay for what's mostly administrative costs is helpful.


[17-Dec-18 08:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
A doctor under a public option, or a physicians co-op, or a Union health plan is still being paid for his labor. But the brokerages that stepped into the middle are being paid to take your money to supposedly use at least half of it to pay for you.


[17-Dec-18 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
To move to a single-payer public option cuts out the middle man, making a large national pool, which by rules of economy for scale means we can pay less for more because of more going into it. As well as cutting out profit incentives from the C-suite of the insurance companies and eliminating marketing budgets, which is the largest expense from these companies.


[17-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
If the people in a society feel that healthcare is a right and they aren't getting it then the market isn't being allocatively efficient and there's a market failure


[17-Dec-18 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Presumably now being owned (at least indirectly, in as far as the representative model of this country goes) the customers and users of the public option can set the terms of the plans use.


[17-Dec-18 08:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Doctors still getting paid for their labor.


[17-Dec-18 08:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield isn't.


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Kekarot#0296
So, the public at large would beresponsible for determining how the service is doled out?


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the CEO of Aetna also not being paid [to choose who to decline coverage to because of technicalities]


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if following we nuked every law regulating the scope of health care in this country to perhaps even just keep a private market, not relegated to private companies, then they can drown in their own inefficiencies if I join the IWW and pitch in into a health care pool where I have more direct control over than the other two options by being a part of a much more democratic institution.


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was direct democracy, sure


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but gov't can work in many ways


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Health care issues would certainly become a ballot issue if significant enough.


[17-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Kekarot#0296
Indirectly, somehow, then.


[17-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
how service is doled out can be decided by different things.


[17-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Medicare is disallowed to bargain for lower drug prices in the US...


[17-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This collective bargaining power used by the gov't, with the weight of all its consumers, is how other places get very cheap drug prices.


[17-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means more people get those drugs.


[17-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way the US legislates how the service is doled out is absurd


[17-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's schizophrenic


[17-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Healthcare tends towards monopoly and pretty much by definition monopolies are inefficient, for society, they're great for the monopoly but society takes on some dead weight loss because a monopoly will always produce less service at a higher price than something like perfect competition (which never happens irl)


[17-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nurses can't do X, doctors must do Y, medicare can't do Z, etc.


[17-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, a bunch of lobbyists affecting indirectly how rules are set upon care for a layered infrastructure to provide care is...way overcomplicated.


[17-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Private healthcare as done by the US is absurdly inefficient


[17-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally to the point where our per-capita cost for Medicare is equivalent to the per-capita cost of other countries' *entire healthcare systems*


[17-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then we hav a huge heaping private healthcare spending cost on top of that


[17-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Kekarot#0296
What dp they spend it on?


[17-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean why are their overall costs so low?


[17-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because *all* they spend on is doctors and nurses and equipment and outreach and research


[17-Dec-18 08:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Private insurance companies? They spend the difference between services and costs on a mix of marketing and C-suite benefits.


[17-Dec-18 08:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
C-suite benefits being the wages and benefits the corporate executives get by existing.


[17-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, switching to "socialized" medicine would not cost the taxpayer any more money


[17-Dec-18 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of the difference would be in accessibility of healthcare to the average person


[17-Dec-18 08:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Idealy it could go down with less administration costs and no need for a marketing and advertising arm


[17-Dec-18 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicare's budget could just fund everyone's healthcare in total instead of what it currently does.


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The VA would of course need to be rolled into it.


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
...which might solve the issue where the VA is chronically understaffed and underequipped


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a related aside, I know we like to talk about the UK and Canadian healthcare system here in the states, but evidently the Mexican health-care system is pretty great too.


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/mexico-healthcare-system#6

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Healthcare: Mexico vs. the United States
Many Americans travel south to Mexico for cheaper medical care, but how does the Mexican healthcare system work for its most vulnerable citizens?
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[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the VA is too damn small


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm reading up on it now.


[17-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I would concede though that the US government is pretty well lobbied to hell that it wouldn't happen that way


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
But health-related tourism has been a thing for a while. But us Americans going for the cheap shit isn't even the tip of the iceburg that Mexicans get, evidently.


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, several years ago, Mexico realized that Medicare For All would make it so the average starving family wouldn't save up all their income just for healthcare


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(saving up is VERY BAD for economic growth)


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they went and did it


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now starving families don't worry about healthcare costs


[17-Dec-18 09:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it acts sort-of like Medicade here in the US, a mix of federal government and state/provincial/whateveryoucallthem-provided funds


[17-Dec-18 09:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
medical insurance companies in america are basically useless profit machines that sit there and let you die if your medical bill is over $2


[17-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to the point where some healthcare providers


[17-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
actually pay for people to go to Mexico


[17-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to buy the drugs there


[17-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the drugs are *that much* cheaper


[17-Dec-18 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've done something very wrong if a service is much more than a round trip to Tijuana cheaper elsewhere.


[17-Dec-18 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very wrong.


[17-Dec-18 12:03 PM] ononim#8141
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[17-Dec-18 12:05 PM] ononim#8141
I am very curious how they come up with the flags


[17-Dec-18 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nptelegraph.com/news/politics/investors-seeking-tax-breaks-skip-poverty-stricken-areas/article_beb8be87-0ca4-5def-884b-77a9e874bb09.html

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Investors seeking tax breaks skip poverty-stricken areas
WASHINGTON (AP) — A real estate investment firm co-founded by President Donald Trump's son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner, is betting big on the administration's Opportunity Zone tax breaks but isn't
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[17-Dec-18 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Instead, Cadre says it will target a "small subset" of zones in such cities as Los Angeles, Seattle and Miami where both populations and incomes are already set to rise faster than the national average.


[17-Dec-18 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nptelegraph.com/news/politics/white-house-digs-in-on-border-wall-demand-risking-shutdown/article_7df009f8-120c-5d33-b718-c2455160698b.html

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White House digs in on border wall demand, risking shutdown
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Sunday pushed the federal government closer to the brink of a partial shutdown later this week, digging in on its demand for $5
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[17-Dec-18 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cut off on that preview is amazingly well placed


[17-Dec-18 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we will shut down the government if you don't give us $5!"


[17-Dec-18 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[17-Dec-18 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"SNL made fun of me I want thme tried in court for this"


[17-Dec-18 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[17-Dec-18 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"BUT HE DESERVES FREE SPEECH IN THE FREE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS >:(((((("


[17-Dec-18 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[17-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>any ideology developed past the 19th century


[17-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>good


[17-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Enlightenment is the zenith of human achievement thusfar


[17-Dec-18 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need sorpatinism


[17-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too many ideologies coopted by nationalists who just needed to disguise nationalism.


[17-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Several problems I have with nationalism


[17-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(1) I believe that the things that make a culture successful are generally the same the world over with different coats of paint


[17-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(2) It restricts capitalism in a way that serves no benefit to either producers or consumers


[17-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalists don't care that cultures are generally similar


[17-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
their premise is that they hav no reason to work with the outside


[17-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(3) It will _always_ turn from "my culture is great" to "my culture should be the only culture" as there isn't a tradition of respecting other nationalists


[17-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's Fascism that cares about culture


[17-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism tho doesn't care whether it's Fascist or not


[17-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part about nationalism to me


[17-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize, the only way to insult Nationalism on Nationalism's terms


[17-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is that it actually is internationalist in that it wants everyone to be like _their_ nation


[17-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
is to point out that protectionism actually harms being top dog


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* not working with other nations actually hurts your nation and puts you behind


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalists ONLY care about being ahead and isolated


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't a true nationalist not give a shit that Saudi Arabia treats women like shit or stones gay people? Respect their national identity!


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv one fukking shit if the nation is committing war crimes


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
US has tried nationalism and isolationism


[17-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They never fucking work


[17-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And they have the gall to make fun of commies saying that communism has never been tried


[17-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We've actually tried these things; they don't work


[17-Dec-18 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but we cant merge the ideologies that woudl be absurd and never work"


[17-Dec-18 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/centurylink-blocks-internet-access-falsely-claims-state-law-required-it/

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[17-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Mikey#7286

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[17-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Mikey#7286
HAHAHAHA


[17-Dec-18 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh, depends
It's become quite clear that most STEMlords know jack shit about philosophy, ethics, or politics


[17-Dec-18 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Science worship is as bad as any form of religious dogma.


[17-Dec-18 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"ExACt SCIencEs aRE PolITICaLLy NeUTRAl!"


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Though really the division between science and philosophy is really a structural issue with academia in general. Science is really a subset of philosophy, utilizing ontological and epistemological processes.


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Philosophy that gets you actual facts > all other philosophy


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
No one in philosophy though - or very few - are going to doubt the validity of the scientific method as a epistemological process.


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Mikey#7286
There's no such thing as science worship


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
oh boy


[17-Dec-18 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
u aint been where ive been


[17-Dec-18 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey there is, it's part of the reason why modern-day "race realists" exist


[17-Dec-18 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They believe their bullshit is scientific


[17-Dec-18 08:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Project mass in the general direction of the heritic philosopher.


[17-Dec-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
race realists?


[17-Dec-18 08:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Also fields like Astronomy, climate, etc aren't anything but politically neutral


[17-Dec-18 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) far-right euphemism for "racists with more rhethoric"


[17-Dec-18 08:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Astronomy is the best field in science btw


[17-Dec-18 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
overly scientific ni🅱🅱as be like, "we must quanitify all things including people lmao there are things to score and grade here" and then they invent IQ and politics quizzes and can't even agree on what they're talking about.


[17-Dec-18 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
That sort of shit is the modern day phrenology.


[17-Dec-18 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[17-Dec-18 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention the confusion behind economics


[17-Dec-18 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are GDP and HDI really that useful for measuring a concept so abstract as human happiness?


[17-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sort of


[17-Dec-18 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not really, since you can have long living and well educated people that can feel entirely disconnected and alienated from the society in which they're born. Like the modern first-world trend in depression and suicide memes. While America ranks high on GDP and HDI, are we really at all happy?


[17-Dec-18 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
And how much is are perceived happiness the option of marketers leaning over and telling us that such-and-such a product can fill a void; but wait, then you have to  buy more to make the product work and now we're spending more on shit that doesn't really make us genuinely happy.


[17-Dec-18 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then studies and surveys are performed on the happiness of people living in more poverty vs people living in more wealth by just asking them if they feel they're happier, and the poors ironically end up the happier because as it turns out: they have more genuine interpersonal relationships than the middle class.


[17-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
High income inequality fukks up happiness and overall health


[17-Dec-18 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
GDP and HDI are not measures of happiness. Happiness may be an effect of high levels of either, but are not correlated to them since it's dependent on other factors, how either are shared among the society, and even what other social factors exist.


[17-Dec-18 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the attempts to measure happiness, Nepal has regularly ranked high in the test over more developed nations and at least according to one (albeit, non-scientific article) the main factor behind their happiness is not even economic or development based. Socially and religiously, the Nepalese regularly contemplate death in ritual several times a day, they're well aware of their own mortality enough that they take what is given and make the best of it.


[17-Dec-18 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
All the while setting aside most of their country as a nature reserve and turning Kathmandu into an electric car paradise.


[17-Dec-18 09:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I don't think Nepal has a particularly glaring inequality of income however


[17-Dec-18 09:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Not like the US or things like that


[17-Dec-18 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
It is a poorer nation, however.


[17-Dec-18 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which if GDP and HDI indexes have anything to say about it, should mean they're grumpy people who are trying really hard to leave, or making really shitty TV commercials for the holiday season always begging for money like I see out of Armenia.


[17-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Honahue#0656
Neoclassical economics wants to be taken seriously so badly they invented their own Noble Prize. "The prize was established in 1968 by a donation from Sweden's central bank the Riksbank to the Nobel Foundation to commemorate the bank's 300th anniversary.[3][7][8][9] As it is not one of the prizes that Alfred Nobel established in his will in 1895, it is not a Nobel Prize.[10] However, it is administered and referred to along with the Nobel Prizes by the Nobel Foundation.[11] Laureates are announced with the Nobel Prize laureates, and receive the award at the same ceremony."


[17-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah didn't Nepal come up with that


[17-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Happiness Quotient or something


[17-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Nile#1441
Thought it was Bhutan


[17-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[17-Dec-18 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC happiest country is Sweden


[17-Dec-18 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Least happy? Latvia


[17-Dec-18 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Something about the Baltic I guess


[17-Dec-18 09:36 PM] Nile#1441
Something's wrong with the Balts, must've been the Russian years


[17-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much every former soviet country is unhappy


[17-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
and poor


[17-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
hell, there's still a huge gap between west and east germany


[17-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The soviets were incredibly stifling to basic economic growth.


[17-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I knew a guy who went on his Mormon mission trip to Latvia


[17-Dec-18 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being depressed and the Mormons show up


[17-Dec-18 09:40 PM] Nile#1441
Mormons are making moves in my town


[17-Dec-18 09:41 PM] Nile#1441
They've been putting up flyers for teaching new immigrants English and advertise their Mormon stuff.


[17-Dec-18 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
ugh


[17-Dec-18 09:43 PM] Nile#1441
But the good thing is they're not big, I get more Baptists coming to my door than I do Mormons.


[17-Dec-18 09:48 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/1t7Uvqrh8kU

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Chicken Derpy
https://youtu.be/1t7Uvqrh8kU
Carl Sagan on Religion
Carl Sagan on Religion. Carl Sagan talks about about faith, religion, and science with Charlie Rose on his last interview. Carl Sagan's last interview.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1t7Uvqrh8kU/hqdefault.jpg


[17-Dec-18 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/21/theres-a-9-trillion-corporate-debt-bomb-bubbling-in-the-us-economy.html

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A $9 trillion corporate debt bomb is 'bubbling' in the US economy
At first glance, it looks like a $9 trillion time bomb is ready to detonate, a corporate debt load that has escalated thanks to easy borrowing terms and a seemingly endless thirst from investors.
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[17-Dec-18 10:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Carl Sagan's views on religion were pretty good


[17-Dec-18 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gender, less good.


[17-Dec-18 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know what crawled up his ass about it.


[17-Dec-18 10:09 PM] Nile#1441
What'd he say about that


[17-Dec-18 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/LZM9YdO_QKk The ethics of programming

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Tom Scott
https://youtu.be/LZM9YdO_QKk
The Consequences of Your Code
This is the story of one of the best, and also one of the worst, text messages I've ever received. It's about harm, about consequences, and about the respons...
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[17-Dec-18 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up "testosterone poisoning" with his name


[17-Dec-18 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was basically saying what everyone already knows


[17-Dec-18 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, chemically testosterone makes you more violent


[17-Dec-18 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But humans aren't animals and to blame all war on it is asinine


[17-Dec-18 10:13 PM] Nile#1441
Damnn


[17-Dec-18 10:37 PM] Honahue#0656
super human levels o testosterone can cause roid rage but I don't think anyone on their own supply not supplemented by exogenous sources gets violent and there's at least one study that correlates testosterone with better team building


[17-Dec-18 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
get's unusually violent anyway, anyone can get violent obviously


[17-Dec-18 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking I never heard him say anything about gender


[17-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Afaik he stuck to astronomy


[17-Dec-18 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Natural hormone level fluctuate wildly anyways on a day-to-day basis, or moment-to-moment. It'd be dangerous if your testosterone was at high sustained levels


[17-Dec-18 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
At which point, seek actual medical help because you probably got a glandular problem.


[17-Dec-18 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
But more often than not, even high levels of testosterone in a healthy since more often than not leads to baldness.


[17-Dec-18 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Sure Carl wasn't perfect, no one is, but he was still one of the greatest minds in his field


[17-Dec-18 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Better than Niel DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye tbh


[17-Dec-18 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tyson is pretty good on his own, but he lacks something to him that Sagan has.


[17-Dec-18 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
I like both of those people too


[17-Dec-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Sagan felt far more curious and imaginative I think


[17-Dec-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/wLigBYhdUDs

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Carl Sagan - "We are a way for the Cosmos to know itself"
Profound words of wisdom spoken by Carl Sagan.
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[17-Dec-18 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sagan if I recalled actually read philosophy, or had a way of delving into it in the examined life sense of philosophy.


[17-Dec-18 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
And he was very optimistic, too


[17-Dec-18 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
He and Hawking were the modern day Einsteins


[17-Dec-18 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
I read Tyson's popular science explination of quantum physics, I forget the name of it. It was a nice fresher but it came off as written mechanically. Like "X and Y works in this way and I'm not going to bother to propose a thesis on it. The closest I'm going to get into discourse is some simple milque-toast liberal politics at the end for a handful of pages."


[17-Dec-18 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Hawking was pretty outspoken in his views on religion though, but I honestly respect his willingness to say bold things


[17-Dec-18 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
"there is no god"


[17-Dec-18 10:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ban religion. 🔥 ✝


[17-Dec-18 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Dec-18 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make everyone Sikh*


[17-Dec-18 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Six sick sikhs


[17-Dec-18 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Dec-18 11:11 PM] Nile#1441
"There is no Stephen Hawking"
-God, 2018


[17-Dec-18 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"God is dead"- Nietzsche


[17-Dec-18 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Nietzsche is dead"- God


[17-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Dec-18 11:25 PM] Mikey#7286
Seriously though, I agreed with Carl Sagan that religion claiming existence of God without evidence is arrogant, but I'd say the same for atheists as well


[17-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Mikey#7286
No one can prove nor disprove god


[17-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Mikey#7286
There is zero evidence for or against it


[17-Dec-18 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but the argument is less about the reality of God or gods but the demands that those claiming there is/are god(s) and that I need to follow that rule book without any evidence


[17-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
True


[17-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
There is evidence for how everything came into existence, like the big bang has solid evidence


[17-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
That doesn't make it factual


[17-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
It's still a theory


[17-Dec-18 11:29 PM] Mikey#7286
But a credible one


[17-Dec-18 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
You have literally no idea how scientific theories work, do you?


[17-Dec-18 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Science shit is real until evidence against the theory emerges then it's re-examined.


[17-Dec-18 11:32 PM] Nile#1441
I worship black science man, truly a beacon of **knowledge** :op:


[17-Dec-18 11:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Black Science Man is about to be sacrificed on the alter of #MeToo if he hasn't already


[17-Dec-18 11:34 PM] Nile#1441
Yeet


[17-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] uh


[17-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes I do


[17-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Theories are not factual things, they're proposals


[17-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Scientists form evidence of said proposals based on observations and research


[17-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Like


[17-Dec-18 11:39 PM] Mikey#7286
The big bang is credible because of a few things, the cosmic microwave background, space is expanding and at a fast rate, so it had to have expanded from a single point


[17-Dec-18 11:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[17-Dec-18 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck #metoo


[17-Dec-18 11:43 PM] Nile#1441
I agree with that 2nd statement


[17-Dec-18 11:44 PM] Mikey#7286
Of course you agree with that but not the first because it goes against your religion :^]


[17-Dec-18 11:46 PM] Nile#1441
I agree with you on the fact that you say theories are not factual, they're proposals


[17-Dec-18 11:46 PM] Nile#1441
:sosmol:


[17-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no such thing as "proof", @Mikey


[17-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav evidence


[17-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
evidence supporting facts


[17-Dec-18 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
They're proposals with a significant body of often-times tested evidence, but with enough room for doubt that they're not quite scientific law yet; since the scope of the game in the essence of the theory is too broad or complicated to be confirmed as a firmly understood notion


[17-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but there is nothing you can say that is a 100% definitive fact


[17-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
as there is no proof.


[17-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Mikey#7286
@Nile the big bang is still a credible theory due to the evidence that backs it


[17-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not just if the observed evidence works it's also if you can predict stuff with it. if whatever model you come up with to represent nature matches both the observed and then can also make accurate predictive statements then it's usually a pretty good theory at least until someone comes along and makes better or more complete model


[17-Dec-18 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Scientific theories are explanations for things we have observed


[17-Dec-18 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[17-Dec-18 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
They're not hypotheses which is what people seem to commonly believe when they hear the word "theory"


[17-Dec-18 11:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah, I'm aware, the big bang wasn't theorized until after astronomers found that distant objects in space were moving away, for one


[17-Dec-18 11:56 PM] Honahue#0656
even after that there were still "steady state" physicists


[17-Dec-18 11:57 PM] Nile#1441
I don't have a vested interest in science anyway, apart from maybe biology. Though that stems more from my interest in true crime stuff.


[17-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/wNDGgL73ihY

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Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://youtu.be/wNDGgL73ihY
The Beginning of Everything -- The Big Bang
How did everything get started? Has the universe a beginning or was it here since forever? Well, evidence suggests that there was indeed a starting point to ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wNDGgL73ihY/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
I've always been obsessed with space


[18-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
And if I made some planning earlier


[18-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
I would have pursued a degree in astronomy


[18-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
Maybe even astrophysics


[18-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm not sure it'd be worth going for now though


[18-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
I know some of you will probably say it's never too late to get a degree in a field you're passionate about


[18-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Nile#1441
If you're young you've got a lot of time


[18-Dec-18 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
String theory seems to be where things are headed


[18-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm an older fan that's going back to college to get a degree in something I want to study instead of something that got me a job


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
LambdaCDM looking like it may also get a revision to incorporate negative mass and energies


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Something something dark matter


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm 27


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Honahue#0656
you're younger than me then


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
I may try and pursue something


[18-Dec-18 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
I tried going for culinary but uh


[18-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Mikey#7286
That didn't work out


[18-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Mikey#7286
I also started right after I graduated high school


[18-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
I just gotta get over my thing about math and writing


[18-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
Math is not my strong suit and I hate writing


[18-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
Also


[18-Dec-18 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
The gist of string theory I've heard is that it's extremely complicated and confusing


[18-Dec-18 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
Also when I say math I mean like, advanced math


[18-Dec-18 12:08 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah I understand that feeling, it sucks but sometimes trying things when your older you'll find it makes more sense or your tastes have changed and you like things now, I was a shit student in high school barely graduated hated school now I actually like learning this stuff and don't have an issue with the homework anymore


[18-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah, I just gotta get over being lazy aside from my dead-end job lol


[18-Dec-18 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
I have the passion for astronomy and I even had it as a child


[18-Dec-18 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
I just need to get the motivation to put into applying for a school and all the paperwork


[18-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Mikey#7286
And I know for a fact I wouldn't qualify for grants again, heh


[18-Dec-18 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyfIOK3ZXQ

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Subcomandante Bat'ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyfIOK3ZXQ
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National Bolshevism with Paganist Charecteristics confirmed
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[18-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Deleted User#0000
LOL


[18-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-travel-ban-keeping-yemeni-mother-from-dying-2-year-old-son-in-california-family-says/

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Abdullah Hassan, 2, has been on life support at Oakland hospital for the past month
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[18-Dec-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/fcc-forces-california-to-drop-plan-for-government-fees-on-text-messages/


[18-Dec-18 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-texting-tax-california-withdraws-controversial-plan-to-levy-text-tax/

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California scraps controversial plan to levy "text tax"
State regulators are ditching a proposal to impose a tax on text messages, citing FCC ruling
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[18-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nile#1441
I dunno why anyone would want Varg on their side @AaronMk


[18-Dec-18 01:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Memes


[18-Dec-18 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think many people on the left take Varg seriously at all. Though there's that contingent of primmies or Pagan Communists who no doubt do.


[18-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nile#1441
A lot of people on the right don't take him seriously either. Just seems like a weird old dude who really loves nature


[18-Dec-18 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-plans-space-command-creation

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[18-Dec-18 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess we're in the buzz lightyear timeline


[18-Dec-18 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
inb4 the whole project gets scrapped because of costs and the Space Force really just ends up being a central organizing command for all military satellites.


[18-Dec-18 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gonna be keeping an eye on our GPS satellites.


[18-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Honahue#0656
First battle in space, Russians stabbing a Soyuz on the ISS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm_fAsUTvgQ

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Cosmonaut Performs Rocket Surgery, While Spacewalking, With a Knife.
The Latest EVA outside the International Space Station saw one of the cosmonauts taking a knife to the outside of their return spacecraft to collect evidence...
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[18-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nile#1441
If space forces don't wear Stormtrooper outfits I will be disappointed


[18-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nile#1441
:trixdisgust:


[18-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
btw, saw talking of science somehow being opposite of philosophy earlier


[18-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
science is an offshoot of philosophy


[18-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
science's base is in philosophy


[18-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
the problem nowadays is that people aren't being taught the philosophy of science anymore, just rote memorization on formulas


[18-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
sure, it's faster and gets you to the making money part faster, but it's bad overall for science


[18-Dec-18 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw your only tools are for rationalizing material problems and then you face down human problems and your tools just don't fit the human condition


[18-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Litrojia#0612
that picture of Trump is fantastic


[18-Dec-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
If I had my way STEM majors would have to take humanities classes on top of their STEM classes.


[18-Dec-18 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Actually if I had my way we'd be back to the Trivium and Quadrivium.


[18-Dec-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd basically be going, "Here, learn to speak Latin and Greek while learning all the stuff needed to have a reflective and literate life in whatever career you want to take ever because it goes through all of this in twelve years."


[18-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Litrojia#0612
as a STEM major, humanities stuff can be kinda neat. History and philosophy and such. Haven't really taken any college courses on them though


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone needs philosophy and the classics


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least a little


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I should take some humanities classes myself but I may be late again to sign up this year.


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
That said I've been using my time at work to listen to audiobooks of the classics and lectures so I'm slowly picking up a fucking informal education on this.


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Honahue#0656
In a lot of ways the issue is over specialization imo, but it's also hard to avoid because science has gotten past the readily graspable stuff and into crazy shit you need 10 years if study just to prepare to do research


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't get any writing assignments though.


[18-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Litrojia#0612
This is all stuff I could learn in the little spare time I've got, but I choose to spend it learning to draw cartoon ponies instead :twicrazy:


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
I guess artsy stuff is a good release from the technicalities of engineering


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Learning to draw is the ultimate mix of STEM (math) and humanities


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
I learn this stuff WHILE drawing cartoon horses. 😎


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Art is very mathematical


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
I can't multitask like that


[18-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
the basis for science is philosophy


[18-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Litrojia#0612
it's tough to even listen to new music while doing stuff like that sometimes, like I'll forget entire songs because I can't be focused on both


[18-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I listen to this shit while I stack boxes: https://youtu.be/4wetwETy4u0

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The Partially Examined Life
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Rick Roderick on The Masters of Suspicion [full length]
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[18-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Honahue#0656
It is but enlightenment/classical era philosophy, I'm not sure if contemporary philosophy has had an effect on the hard sciences


[18-Dec-18 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think contemporary philosophy moved more into language and shit. It got difficult by the 19th century to do anything seriously ontological with how important science had become. Though it didn't stop people like Edmund Husserl from trying. Husserl's program was a "return to the object" when he founded the school of phenomenology, but it wasn't particularly developed until Heidegger and Husserl's students stepped in.


[18-Dec-18 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Phenomenology came to play a big role in Sartre's existentialism when he picked phenomenology up.


[18-Dec-18 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
The thing with phenomenology too is that it was intended to be such a return to Aristotelian form for the 20th century that just about anyone could pick it up and develop it. The basic idea, at least from what I gathered of Husserl's is that like Aristotle you take an object and strip it down to its bare essentials, start removing characteristics to the point where all you have left is the thing; then you consider the uses that thing might take, divorced of the notion of its strict designed usefulness.


[18-Dec-18 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like how Heidegger went into it, a hammer is not just a thing to pound nails with, but (I'm doing my own guess work here over Heidegger's idea) a hammer is a blunt object on a lever. As an object with mass it can be thrown as a weapon in a time of anger and become a missile, or swung with the arm in the same since as a melee weapon. Having weight it can be a paper weight, a door stop, etc. In short the hammer itself can do far more than what its intent is: to drive nails. And this might go on to some sort of conclusion.


[18-Dec-18 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the since of humanities phenomenology can be used to determine the context and space a person or persons take in the contemporary physical and social space of a community, as well as their historical context. I think this may by the field that Sartre and the existentialists picked up on when they began developing the existential philosophy; what is man's context in the world as an individual, as a society? What is best for man's freedom? etc.


[18-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
Interesting, though I don't know if I could study something like that extensively


[18-Dec-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Heidegger is very hard to read and is generally not recommended for first timers. You really have to build up to him.


[18-Dec-18 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
And kind of like Hegel, you really need to do prep work before hand.


[18-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Most of what I know about Heidegger was from lectures and interviews with people where the subject is him.


[18-Dec-18 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oxford has some introductory books to various philosophical topics, I can't speak for them though since I haven't sat down to read one of the two I got (an intro to ethics and an intro to Hegel). But depending on what you want to look into and learn about finding material like that would be a good option. Trying to dive directly into the source material will be hard as fuck because they don't write with the general public in mind, they write for post-grad students, professors, and people who are already well versed in the topic. There's plenty of general-population introductory material and even videos on YouTube that would make good starts. Because otherwise the other option is the "start with the Greeks" memes.


[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which if you have time to read something like Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons, you have time for the Greek canon. The hardest part is really the classical language.


[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I've read PH


[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
dafuq https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/

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Boys can have periods too, children to be taught in latest victory...
School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.
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[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Litrojia#0612
I don't have time to read PH I'd say


[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I've been reading the Oxford Pre-Socratics and Sophists book, back then they were pretty much throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks but amazingly some was on to something, Heraclitus accurately guessed that the moon reflects sunlight and isn't luminous itself


[18-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Litrojia#0612
but that's besides the point


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Interestingly, having read at least most of Plato's Socratic dialogues and some other shit I might be one of the few people to take umbrage with Somber's cluelessness of souls; which he clearly wants to make a central part of his story but he's SO FUCKING STUPID ABOUT IT


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
I SUFFERED


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
FOR


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
YOUR


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
AND MY


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
SINS


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Litrojia#0612
@Crow 🤔


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Nile#1441
@Crow cringe


[18-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
the Atomists were way a head of their time, though everyone was on about this Water, Air, Earth, Fire thing


[18-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Honahue#0656
but the point of them all was they were trying to explain things without the assistance of the gods anymore


[18-Dec-18 02:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue

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[18-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, everything is water just condensed or rarifed


[18-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean they were wrong about so much but they were trying like how fire is just rarified air and the experimental explanation is that when you breathe out with an open mouth it's warm but if you breathe through pursed lips it's cool


[18-Dec-18 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Philosophy in the west was also supposedly invented when someone successfully predicted a solar eclipse.


[18-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah um I'd have to check which guy did that but they still beleived in an earth centric universe but one of them did guess that the moon came between the sun and the earth, but if I'm remembering this right he thought everything was in pairs so it was reall the antimoon not the moon moon


[18-Dec-18 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
A N T I    M O O N


[18-Dec-18 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Western philosophy be like: continental conversation with "national" discussion groups all over the convention room all intermingling and mingling with one another.


[18-Dec-18 02:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile Eastern philosophy be like five different conventions occasionally visiting each other in rarified occasions because you gotta walk across busy highways to get there, so they only import and export broad notions of what they're on about.


[18-Dec-18 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
China sends a delegation to India and brings Buddhism and China goes "cool, we'll use that". Then a couple centuries later they go back and bring them back to China and the China be like, "That's cool but let's talk about   f i s h   u n d e r   t h i s    b r i d g e"


[18-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
it wasn't Thales that thought of the antimoon


[18-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
but he did predict the eclipse


[18-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Nile#1441
I always thought the anti-moon was the sun


[18-Dec-18 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Moon - which is water - passes in front of the sun - which is also water - which projects a shadow - which is water - on the earth; which is also water.


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
they also had an obsession with beans


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the water passes in front of the water projectign water onto water?


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
yes


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Pathagoras was terrified of beans


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Something about farts being souls I think


[18-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's soul vore to sniff someone's farts?


[18-Dec-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think the Persians were into that I think, which is why cabbage was banned by the Zoroastrians and their offshoots I think.


[18-Dec-18 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it plato who we dont have a lot of stuff from due to him thinking writing would be a fad?


[18-Dec-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
No cabbage, no beans, farting is bad; so no foods that cause gas


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) No, Plato wrote a lot. Socrates never wrote, but Plato and friends wrote for him.


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
then there's Diogenes who eats lupin beans which are known for their gasous properties


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i knew it was one of those 2


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
We got like five different people contemporary to Plato and Socrates who all wrote about him


[18-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diogenes was like the anti-Plato tho


[18-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Socrates gone mad according to Plato


[18-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Makes more sense why he'd say anything on farting, knowing how the others were crazy about avoiding it


[18-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diogenes' thing was explicitly "this is all a bunch of bullshit to make us look like what we aren't"


[18-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Socrates was a bit of an ascetic which is what influenced Diogenes but Diogenes took it to the extreme


[18-Dec-18 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Diogenes was also into a return to nature and believed it's legit to masturbate in public.


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
diogenes sounded fun at parties


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
he was wild


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Diogenes was fun


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diogenes' thing is like


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wouldn't behave differently at a party vs. a high class meeting


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. being in the street


[18-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. being in the woods


[18-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine a guy' who's fun at parties, but the party never, ever stops


[18-Dec-18 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
He bust into Plato's academy when Plato said man is a featherless biped and threw a plucked chicken at him


[18-Dec-18 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[18-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you tell him the party stops or he dies and he goes "well kill me then, coward"


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think anyone had the guts to actually tell him no


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
but Diogenes thought that civilization made it difficult for man to be virtuous which was the goal in most Greeks opinions, Socrates and Plato were coming up with ways to be virtuous but it was arduous because of civilization while Diogenes said "well fuck off with civilization then" he admitted it wasn't an easy path but he called it the short cut to vitue


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When Alexander the Great approaches you asking you how great he is, and you say something about bones and shit and order him to get out of his sun.


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was Alexander III, not the Great


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Either way, an Alexander.


[18-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of like if Jeb Bush came to Iraq


[18-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then some Iraqi guy said "get the fukk out of my house before I kill you with my shoes"


[18-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and said guy was a famous celebrity in the Middle East


[18-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
The story is usually Alexander the Great


[18-Dec-18 03:08 AM] Nile#1441
Alexander III is literally the same Alexander the Great


[18-Dec-18 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
the Greeks like to pair Alexander and Diogenes for narrative reasons, one issue with studying Greek history is that they weren't that concerned with "facts" they liked to tell a good story so they'd change names around to famous people for narritive reasons


[18-Dec-18 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
The thing with Greeks too is that they were shooting for some spiritual state comparable to either Heaven or Buddhist Nirvana, depending on how you look at it. The Platonists were searching for some absolute state of wisdom, and that wisdom should be used to steer the public space; souls were reincarnated. Aristotelians some kind of heaven I think, and Epicurians were searching for a state of absolute contentment.


[18-Dec-18 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Epicurian state of contentment was eventually picked up by the Stoics.


[18-Dec-18 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
But watered down on the hedonism-lite aspects.


[18-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
hilariously Diogenes taught Crete who taught Zeno who invented Stoicism


[18-Dec-18 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Epicurus also taught in a garden and invited all who may, including women and slaves.


[18-Dec-18 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
And his neighbors thought he was hosting orgies, because no one in their right mind in contemporary Greece would teach women anything.


[18-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Diogenes was a sexist, he said something about a girl learning rhetoric as sharpening her sword


[18-Dec-18 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Greeks really just hated women.


[18-Dec-18 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then had an ironic fixation on the Amazonians/Scythians.


[18-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Diogenes was basically an eternal ironic 15 year old


[18-Dec-18 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
the Athenians hated women


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except you know, jacking off in public


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone has ironic fixation


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
but they also became the cultural center so eventually all the Greeks did


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, sexual fantasies are different by political party on average


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wouldn't everyone jack off in public if they could get away with it?


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats want BDSM, Republicans want infidelity


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If only it were so easy to cure hunger by rubbing my belly"- actual Diogenes quote when confronted with jacking off in public


[18-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
yes


[18-Dec-18 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Greeks wanted that Scythian mare piss that effeminized their shamans.


[18-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
rubbing one out to the statue of Athena


[18-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
haha oh man that's great, there's a drug called Premarin, and it's estrogen the drug name comes from Pregnate Mare Urine


[18-Dec-18 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Scythians like that shit, they'd drink it for religious reasons.


[18-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
bet they got gout a lot


[18-Dec-18 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then they really didn't care about gender as much as the Greeks. Being a nomadic hunting culture with horses basically everyone learned to ride a horse and shoot a bow, and from there it wasn't a great leap to actual battlefield combat. So women would get in the game too. We got plenty of burial mounds filled with dead warrior women bearing the scars of a life of war.


[18-Dec-18 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile their shamans were some kind of proto-trans appealing to Tengri or someone.


[18-Dec-18 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
they aren't the only ones, I think it's the Hopi tribe that had the dual spirit gender who were usually shamans


[18-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Nile#1441
Weird


[18-Dec-18 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
dual spirit because they were both man an woman


[18-Dec-18 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.capradio.org/articles/2018/12/15/big-polluters-get-help-from-the-state-renewing-doubts-about-californias-climate-goals/

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[18-Dec-18 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Native Americans had a similar thing


[18-Dec-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
in some tribes, if someone was gay etc., they were thought to contain both gender spirits and thus be super special


[18-Dec-18 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a mesoamerican group in Mexico that recognizes third gendered individuals. They call the Mexos I think.


[18-Dec-18 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a big mess with Native Americans, Westerners weren't really worried about getting the specifics of a particular tribes culture down so a lot of stuff is painted with a big brush unfortunatly


[18-Dec-18 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their not really a spiritual thing, but still serve an important role in their community.


[18-Dec-18 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
And they don't consider it gay to date a them if they're biologically a guy and you are, or if you're a chick and they are. As long as they identify as the opposite


[18-Dec-18 03:34 AM] Nile#1441
Yikes


[18-Dec-18 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a long standing trans institution.


[18-Dec-18 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the Catholic church is pretty heavily pro-them. Otherwise they riot.


[18-Dec-18 03:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Mahu in Hawaii up until bout the 1850's were priests and teachers


[18-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/russian-disinformation-teams-targeted-robert-s-mueller-iii-says-report-prepared-for-senate/2018/12/17/0e0047f6-0230-11e9-8186-4ec26a485713_story.html


[18-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
The Russian operatives unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond, falsely claiming that the former FBI director was corrupt and that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election were crackpot conspiracies. One post on Instagram — which emerged as an especially potent weapon in the Russian social media arsenal — claimed that Mueller had worked in the past with “radical Islamic groups.”


[18-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/worst-start-to-december-for-the-stock-market-since-great-depression.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/worst-start-to-december-for-the-stock-market-since-great-depression.html
The stock market is on pace for its worst December since the Great...
Two  benchmark U.S. stock indexes are careening toward a historically bad December.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/12/08/104154901-GettyImages-542350183.1910x1000.jpg


[18-Dec-18 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[18-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
I feel trump should not be the US president


[18-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
running "orangemanbad.exe"


[18-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Trump should rule the world. His infinite wisdom will benefit all Americans, and wipe out the scum that is the sand niggers.


[18-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
running "orangemangood.exe"


[18-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sir, this is a UNIX system.


[18-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should know this.


[18-Dec-18 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656

{Attachments}
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/524425716234846226/nolivesmatter.jpg


[18-Dec-18 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
I cannot into linux :(


[18-Dec-18 04:36 AM] RemixRave#6123
https://patreonhq.com/hate-speech-on-patreon-a9026e52c2cf

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https://patreonhq.com/hate-speech-on-patreon-a9026e52c2cf
Hate Speech on Patreon – art/work -behind the scenes at patreon
Some context on the removal of Sargon of Akkad, and our policy on hate speech on Patreon.


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] RemixRave#6123
>if you're just so much as right of Marx, get fucked


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] RemixRave#6123
how classy of you, Patreon


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said the n-word


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] RemixRave#6123
nyx


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bake your own Nazi wedding cake


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] RemixRave#6123
i did too


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bake


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
your


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
own


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazi


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
wedding


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] RemixRave#6123
nah


[18-Dec-18 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
cake


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] RemixRave#6123
also don't call me a nazi


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go to Hatreon lmao


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] RemixRave#6123
i don't appreciate that.


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I care


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
private companies can do whatever they want


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] RemixRave#6123
you care enough to come in here and starting shit


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
this is what the conservative economists want


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] RemixRave#6123
go fuck yourself


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget the n-word


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
"White people are meant to be polite and respectful to one another, and you guys can’t even act like white people, it’s really amazing to me."


[18-Dec-18 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I will always start shit with racists


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is legitimately discriminatory


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] RemixRave#6123
I'm not a damned racist


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is generalizing about non-whites


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
nigger


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying they are inferior because they are uncivilized


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You get upset at a company cutting ties with someone using a racist slur


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You are a racist.


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just come clean and admit it


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Save us all some time.


[18-Dec-18 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
nazi doggo


[18-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"You're acting like a bunch of n-"


[18-Dec-18 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That is what you are defending


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
woah what a channel we got here


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
is this new or something


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
relatively


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Great, so I'm free to be an a-hole here right?


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
:zul:


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] RemixRave#6123
@Itsthinking is doing a fantastic job of that :^)


[18-Dec-18 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
this is basically serious business channel


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
general discussion is basically shitpost-lite


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're defending "blakk people are inferior"


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
as being not hate speech


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] RemixRave#6123
I just say one thing and I'm already deemed a racist


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] RemixRave#6123
that's amazing


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that Patreon should allow such hate speech.


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, generally speaking


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
when you say someone should be allowed on a platform for gathering money to fund their speech


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] RemixRave#6123
and this is why I don't deal in social politcis


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
>Several people are typing...


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
There are many reasons one race may be disadvantaged over another.


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why is this speech wherein I judge a group based on their race considered hate speech?"


[18-Dec-18 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite them being blatantly racist, as the reason for being removed


[18-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are either balls-deep in the worst part of liberal ideals


[18-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
or a racist.


[18-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's pretty much been confirmed that race has almost no impact on behavior, only circumstances


[18-Dec-18 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the former would involve some structure about applying free speech to corporations.


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea that corporations should be subject to free speech is absurd


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's for the government and nothing else


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] RemixRave#6123
I voted for trump


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] RemixRave#6123
sorry


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congrats.


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
corporations shouldn't be in the position of political power at all


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You want a cookie?


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] RemixRave#6123
just please save me the orange man bad


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
See, that's why I like Gab.  Free speech rules to the extent of the US law.


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] RemixRave#6123
At least I have ideals


[18-Dec-18 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What?


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
>anyone who doesn't agree with my ideals has no ideals


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] RemixRave#6123
all y'alljust keep spouting the same dribble fucking Jimmy Kimmel and the like do


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
trolololololol


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol the right wants it to be illegal to disagree with them,


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>2018


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
>anyone arguing against this one thing is doing it because Trump


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

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RealPapaPit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
Mr. Trololo original upload
Я очень рад, ведь я, наконец, возвращаюсь домой. Оригинальный клип. Исполняет Эдуард Хиль.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oavMtUWDBTM/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
are you...retarded?


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Do you consider other racial and ethnic groups judging white people based on the color of their skin to be hate speech too?


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>STILL fucking upset at irrelevant late night comedians


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or just trolling?


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] RemixRave#6123
yes


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] RemixRave#6123
possibly


[18-Dec-18 04:45 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I don't do anything to get myself banned or removed from other platforms anyway, but gab's free speech policy means that I gotta do something that'd actually end up with me getting arrested for posting for them to remove me from their site.


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
0/10 could've at least put in some danker memes.


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
I don't generally care about politics honestly


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
I just wanted to see you fuckers squirma bit


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
:^)


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
m8


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
and just like that


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
says the guy who came out of nowhere salty that a racist got kicked off a funding platform


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
hook


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
line


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
sinker


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Edgy people who want to alt-right meme all day are a dime a dozen


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
HOOK


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
LINK


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
E


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As an aside


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] RemixRave#6123
SINKER


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
GUYS IT'S OKAY I WAS TROLLING AND SOMEONE RESPONDED SO I WIN


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
@Nebbie  did you just use the word "retarded" as a derogatory term?


[18-Dec-18 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope one day we can remove every vestige of Confederate "heritage" from US soil


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, deal with it.


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
:thonking:


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] RemixRave#6123
>several people are typing


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] RemixRave#6123
i'm impressed


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Southerners deserve nothing but eternal shame for their treason


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rebels don't get participation trophies.


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
@Itsthinking Removal of "heritage" from "confederates" is OK.  I bet that: Removal of "heritage" from "african americans" is NOT OK right?


[18-Dec-18 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
now you're just copying me :/


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Am I right?


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@ZizzyDizzyMC Slavery is unjustifiably evil


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please put trophies of confederates in the same museum as those of Stalin


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Think about what you're saying, you want to rewrite history as it was.


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To the point where people who rose up and killed slave owners did nothing wrong.


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
The Barbary states did slavery


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
If you overwrite history you will repeat it again.


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck off


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
>REEEE REWRITING HISTORY IF YOU DON'T CELEBRATE THE EVIL PEOPLE


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jim Crow historians rewrote history for decades


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, imma go erect statues of Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan in Washington DC


[18-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
next to a statue of George Washington


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise we're forgetting that bad people existed, guys


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
>reeeeeeeeeeeee rewrite history, remove white heritage reeeeeeeee


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
Crow (Today at 7:42 PM): >Several people are typing...
Cobalt Flux (Today at 7:47 PM): >several people are typing


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, remove white heritage


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
that's all i see you saying there @Itsthinking


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
For what purpose Nebbie.


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slaveowners that got off scott-free got it too good


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I think removal of heritage is bad.


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
all of this from bait


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
hook


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
White heritage exists as a response to black heritage movements


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
line


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] RemixRave#6123
sinker


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
caw, caw, and cawer


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arm the Black Panthers too


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[18-Dec-18 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"lul I trull you"


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's their 2nd amendment right


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] RemixRave#6123
it worked


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
:thonkang: I'm not trolling though.


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] RemixRave#6123
I am


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
To walk your white crakker neighborhoods with guns ;p


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Can any of you give me a reason as to why white europeans advanced much faster than african nations


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Access to water


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: california's anti-gun stance was started by ronald reagan


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shitty soil and lack of resources


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
also climate


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan saw Black Panthers with guns


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
therefore, ronald reagan hates the 2nd amendment


[18-Dec-18 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and went hell no


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA bakked him up cause 'fukk niggers'


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
If you legitimately think that removal of monuments, statues and other objects that hold significance in any one movement is okay then I am curious what other strange (to me) things you think is okay.


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cali allowed unloaded open carry for a time


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now it's de facto illegal


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you can't take a gun outside your home at all without a permit unless it's in a case


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised it hasn't been challenged yet


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@ZizzyDizzyMC the monuments had no other purpose other than to say "black people, stay in your place"


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Southern "heritage" is garbage.


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
>looks at monument of Hitler


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
hmm


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Pause for a moment here.


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should keep this up


[18-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise I'm forgetting history


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
and the monuments of black men and women dont say the same thing?


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Just pause, and think for a moment.


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of civil war monuments were erected in the 1910's


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee are traitors. No monuments.


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
especially confederate ones


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Monuments are political decisions about who to support


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Nile#1441
Americans have been tearing down statues since they tore down King George III


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
as well as things to remember tragedies with


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I will not be moved from my stance so save your fingertips their stress.


[18-Dec-18 04:52 AM] RemixRave#6123
then why are you here?


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Civil War Monuments should show a bunch of blakk people hit by a whip while the one holding the whip gets BURNED BY GENERAL SHERMAN


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
hold on, let me call my pal Ben Shapiro


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To tell you to piss off.


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] RemixRave#6123
nah


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
To remember the tragedy of slavery


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] RemixRave#6123
you piss off/


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not showing General Lee being happy etc.


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every person South of the Mason-Dixon line


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lee was against confederate monuments btw


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
shall forever as long as this country exists


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
hold on their backs, the tragedy of slavery


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is their weight to carry


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Because if you want to think like that, then a monument of any person, place or thing of significance would be mocking all so as to say "we won /  look at us / look at this"


[18-Dec-18 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South shouldn't get any monuments supporting its slaveowning movement and related secession.


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only monuments created by the North to say "don't fukking rebel"


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Then the north shouldn't get any monuments of african american's winning their rights.


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a zero sum game


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The North won and the South's views were stupid and racist


[18-Dec-18 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The North's view should get statues supporting it


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the South's view.


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
It was quite the accomplishment for them to get their rights after being slaves, it took far too long but they got their rights.


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>"Why shouldn't we get statues showing how we denied people their humanity? Ugh, the other side shouldn't get statues commemorating liberating people from our shittiness!"


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No thanks to Southerners


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh we should have let the South go


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
become a third world shithole


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Georgia should hav a statue of Sherman marching thru Georgia


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and then grovel back


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
America is a traitor nation


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Nile#1441
Long live the Empire 🇬🇧


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Welcome to the C_A


[18-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I want a staute of John Brown and his sons decapitating slaveowners


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put it in the Tennesse legislature's lawn


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it near impossible to remove


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slave owners aren't even humans


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Well, you guys are more messed up than I thought.


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] RemixRave#6123
yup


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That one political cartoon with John Brown


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
where he's huge


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
make it a statue


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nile#1441
Slave owners were human beings


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put it in Alabama


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were monsters


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
>slave owners arent even human


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No pity, no excuse


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nile#1441
k


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
they certainly thought so


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I can take sollace knowing that I at least, don't call for the deaths of human beings.


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] RemixRave#6123
man oh man, what I have caused :lul:


[18-Dec-18 04:56 AM] Nile#1441
Dehumanizing people is bad unless they did bad things


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
Ok


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>slavery isn't a bad thing


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
or statues depicting therof


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
When did I ever say that


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
John Brown was a hero


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nile#1441
Galaxy brain


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the greatest


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
>statues of Southern generals who killed many so they could oppress others...


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
>doesn't call for statues depicting death


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
hmmmmmmm


[18-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
muh Nathaniel Bedford Forrest statue


[18-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Nile#1441
Erect a statue of Oswald Mosley in D.C.


[18-Dec-18 04:58 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I don't recall any statutes in the south depicting decapitation though I may be wrong.


[18-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
>not realizing the northern goverment couldnt give two shits about the slaves but rather cared about preserving the union


[18-Dec-18 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what the South deserves


[18-Dec-18 04:58 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
definitely didn't see it in my textbooks or research.


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Radical Republicans should have gotten their way and destroyed any semblance of Southern unity


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
by destroying the former Confederacy as it was structured


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Do you understand the meaning of Radical?


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
y/n


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
this is a simple yes / no question.


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
by stating  that the south should die, you yourself are a radical


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know that "Radical Republicans" was a historical term for a specific faction within the post-Civil War Republican Party?


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Nile#1441
We're all radical to an extent


[18-Dec-18 04:59 AM] Nile#1441
tbh


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Like alt-right, correct.


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
(but values were different)


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
alt-facts


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Nile#1441
Alt-right is dumb


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
You can't have alternative facts


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse radicalism is by no means immediately a bad thing


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
You can have alternative opinions or theories however


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
No of course


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
its not


[18-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Republican

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The Radical Republicans were a faction of American politicians within the Republican Party of the United States from around 1854 (before the American Civil War) until the end of Reconstruction in 1877. They called themselves "Radicals" with a sense of a complete permanent era...


[18-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
"They called themselves "Radicals" with a sense of a complete permanent eradication of slavery and secessionism, without compromise."


[18-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Radicalism can be a good thing when under the right conditions


[18-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The alt-facts is like, reee some liberals are stupid, so we should just giv a few white guys all the power and make liberal corps their bitches and I promise that granting so much power'll lead to less gov't, less problems and not fascism, guys.


[18-Dec-18 05:01 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
But to earn a term "radical" you have to do some stuff or commit to some stuff that are quite far from the center, or compromise.


[18-Dec-18 05:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not do some stuff


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just hold certain beliefs


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what they did that was so RADICAL?


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They, believe it or not


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
prevented new states from adopting slavery


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Helping Jews in Nazi Germany was a radical act


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and also helped people escape slavery


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
The most radical thing is "no compromise" this is what would make them the most radical.


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ZizzyDizzyMC democratic compromise sucks, and always leads to shoddy results


[18-Dec-18 05:02 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
yeah, that'd be waaaay away from sane territory in that time @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the long term, at least


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Nile#1441
I'm radical in the fact I think the U.S. should be governed like the Commonwealth nations (Canada, Australia, NZ)


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The "compromise" was "let us restrict freedmen from their rights"


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
you know, if it werent for the whole, restriction of the rights to free speech, and prosecution of the Jews, Hitler would be seen as a great leader today


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>not compromising with human rights abuses


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>radical


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know what the "compromise" position was back in the Civil War?


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Corwin Ammendment.


[18-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The compromise position was to let the south completely fukk over blakks


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In exchange for not allowing soavery to expand beyond the states that already had it, this ammendment would have enshrined slavery into the constitution as a basic right


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*forever.*


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I kinda think that lincoln's assassination was actually a successful attempt to stop reconstruction and replace it with jim crow


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
instead of an attempt to revive the confederation


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Confederate States leadership refused it, because it did not allow for the expansion of slavery into the territories


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lincoln was an idiot in pikking a southern VP asshole


[18-Dec-18 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy basically did everything possible to undermine reconstruction


[18-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
congress had to completely bypass him


[18-Dec-18 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even then, he still managed to break things


[18-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much imagine Trump x10


[18-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
he was impeached and only wasn't removed from office by one senate vote


[18-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bribery works, kids.


[18-Dec-18 05:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
AAAAAAAA


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ONE VOTE


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 AAAAAAAA


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
bribery always works if you do it right


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@BadgingBadger🦄🌈: AAAAAAAA)


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
new reppy


[18-Dec-18 05:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*another one*


[18-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Well fellas, it seems like we are at an impass, mostly because both sides are screaming over the other. Any other controversial topics we can argue over?


[18-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Nile#1441
Like what


[18-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Nile#1441
I've got a lot of radical beliefs :twismug:


[18-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pancakes or waffles?


[18-Dec-18 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
ban religion


[18-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Pancakes


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Finally, agreement.


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] ban ur mom


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
ban ponies


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Waffles cannot compete with pancakes


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Got eem


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
only crows allowed


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chicken and waffles maybe can


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
:murder::murder::murder::murder:


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Nile#1441
Bad opinion @byte[]


[18-Dec-18 05:11 AM] RemixRave#6123
I like pancakes too


[18-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
lies


[18-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
guys, lets all meet at an IHOP, eat a bunch of grinch pancakes


[18-Dec-18 05:12 AM] RemixRave#6123
thanks for agreeing with someone you called a racist a few minutes ago thinking


[18-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
then beat the shit out of eachother


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] RemixRave#6123
bye


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I second the Ban Religion


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Illegalize pancakes


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oh my god he called me racist"


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler ate vegetables


[18-Dec-18 05:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatives and centrists just love political correctness, despite not claiming it


[18-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nile#1441
Ban the Western world


[18-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nile#1441
It's cringe


[18-Dec-18 05:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile THIS I CAN GET BEHIND


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Nile#1441
Not if you know why I say that :twismug:


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
guys


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Hitler ate vegetables


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Trump eats vegetables


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Nile#1441
Illuminati confirmed


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
@Nebbie Would you rather destroy monuments or place them in a museum.


[18-Dec-18 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half Life 3 confirmed


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile the queen is western, same with whatever monarchy is still there


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Museum


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] Nile#1441
She is eternal, not Western


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
Hmm, now you got a point.


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
The queen is a dust bin

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[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is the queen even there?


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
How long until queen dies?


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
the way you guys were talking earlier is that they should all be removed, torn down.


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
This implies total destruction.


[18-Dec-18 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wanna see the mess of Charles


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
(this is why I was so angry)


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you've gotta tear with statues


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Nile#1441
If you diss Queen Liz in front of me, I will retaliate in the worst way possible


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, even if you state a statistic that the majority of Brits are "satisfied" with the institution of the monarchy... does it mean they'll defend it tooth and nail?


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
they usually are pretty heftily held in place


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, they just might not care


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Betty White and the Queen are secretly working together, killing off celebrities to extend their lifespan


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
with work you can remove and relocate.


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
prove me wrong


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
I'm sure if you can relocate an entire boing 767


[18-Dec-18 05:17 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
you can do a statue


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
is ganondorf jewish?


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
(let the real racists pay for it)


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] ZizzyDizzyMC#1404
😃


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Im still pissed off about the Joe Paterno statue being melted down for a food science building


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There Gerudo are a matriarchy


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guys, i don't think you all get it, have you read the nefarious shit that's in most Confederate monument epitaphs?


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which means any man probably is taken advantage of from a young age


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because only one is born a century or something


[18-Dec-18 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They openly state shit like "the Negro's subservience", among other things


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The museums would basically say "the confederates were evil fukkers and here's some proof"


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] Nile#1441
I say that if we are to allow Confederate statues in public, we should allow more stuff that the Americans will be divided on.


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's funny, you know


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] Nile#1441
A big ol' statue of King George III


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Murican "patriots" claim they love their country and flag


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1387165933712.png

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[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yet they'll fight to their guts to defend the Confederate monuments


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] Nile#1441
Happy merchant


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
most americans don't even know who king george iii is


[18-Dec-18 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Representative of an openly hostile secessionist cause


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BoTW basically ruined all Zelda lore


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
how? I haven't played it


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
All Zelda games ruined all previous lore, really


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It made the Zora and Rito exist at the same time


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing was planned ahead.


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In WW, Rito were evolved Zora


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
I saw a video on recommended saying that BotW fixed zelda lore


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
guys, lets just say that shit happened and that theres nothing we can do to change what happened, except learn from our mistakes and leave the shit up so future generations have an example of what not to do?


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
both can be true


[18-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Future generations being told negros are evil by statues isn't good


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
^


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
there was a period of time like 5 different types of humans existed simlutaneously


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you put that shit in museums so people can be told how evil those fukkers were


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
in context


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WW Rito were weird human birds


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nile#1441
You are really defensive of black people, Nebbie


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BoTW Rito were bird furries


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you hav schools take trips to those museums to go "these people were evil fukkers"


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile why would we not be?


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you do what Germany does


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks for stating the obvious


[18-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, racism is still very much alive today, just more passive


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I call a racist a racist and many racists try to prevent being called racists.


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Nile#1441
I'm saying that he talks about black people like, almost every day, as if it's one of the only things he cares about.


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, even going as far to take back their claims and say it was just a prank bro


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
@Nebbie  so just because a statue says it, does it have to be true? do they have to listen? cant they make their own decisions based on all the information?


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
hm maybe its because black people get fucked over in this country


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
oh no never mind it cant be that


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
thats ridiculous


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
People honestly cannot be trusted to make their own decisions


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of the people who see leftists calling someone "racist" have insufficient knowledge baggage to actually know what racism is, imo


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is why schools exist


[18-Dec-18 05:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why they take it as an insult


[18-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
People on their own hav dogshit for critical thinking skills


[18-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to specifically train them to think and cut thru the bullshit, and you hav to put in some ideas as immunization against said bullshit


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
People need to learn from both sides, the statues and the schools, and make their own decisions based on their gathered information


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, blakk people are like the only thing Republicans care about right now.


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other than brown people.


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
>golden mean fallacy


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
by cutting out the statues, you are leaving only one side of the debate to be seen


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The both sides fallacy, has some specific name


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse anyone with enough of a brain to think critically will notice that conservatives have literally nothing of value to offer to society


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no "debate" on whether people should be enslaved.


[18-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your position is human rights don't exist, well get fukked


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
your position is not gonna be represented in the school system.


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Nile#1441
Yes, because leftists have so much to contribute


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
I could say the same about the other side of the political compass


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you really can't


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human rights exsit and human rights don't exist aren't equivalent positions in any manner.


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
treating all people equally sounds horrible imo


[18-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are many, many reasons to do the former.


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nile#1441
Human rights are a meme


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And doing the latter is almost always done for selfish reasons.


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse i don't think you have read even Marx tbh


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So why are you saying the left has nothing to contribute


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If one person's side is "kill the jews"


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the other's is "don't kill the jews"


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
we don't need to represent both sides


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of them is wrong


[18-Dec-18 05:26 AM] Nile#1441
One side is "let's not kill babies"
The other is like "yass queen abortion party!"


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why Germany's education system takes kids to holocaust museums


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
who the fuck said conservatives, universally, want to kill jews?


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
to pound into them that people who say we should kill the jews are evil fukkers


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't kill the jews.


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
when the fuck was that a thing?


[18-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since about the late 19th century, it seems.


[18-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kill the jews is like the main thing conservatism in Europe and Russia has centered around for about 200 years.


[18-Dec-18 05:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse modern day conservatives don't claim they want to kill or kick out Jews most of the time, but they're inclined to become fascist in crisis situations


[18-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's usually not "kill" and it's not *just* "the jews"


[18-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's something of the form "throw the jews and gypsies out of society" or "keep the niggers and jews out of my white heritage"


[18-Dec-18 05:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What people fail to realize is that fascism is not just an ideology, it's a mode of thinking


[18-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that is almost universally what conservatism rallies around.


[18-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Nile#1441
lol


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
i'll be honest, i lack the vocabulary to write a proper counter arguement, simply because its damn near impossible to describe how stupid it sounds


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very good strategy for conservatism, really


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse at least you admit you lack the baggage


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read some books, then


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
groups like Jews and gypsies hav trouble defending themselves


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
are obviously "outsiders"


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
providing a very good enemy to berate verbally to rally people together against a common enemy


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
you are clumping a broad political group together and claiming that they all think the same


[18-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
or at the very least


[18-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
similarily


[18-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't all think the exact same, but this is the pattern.


[18-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Identify a cultural-religious-ethnic group (ideally all three, but two will do) that's easy to notice in society, and demonize/dehumanize them to gain political support.


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is what conservatism tends towards.


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To those of you who say conservatism is just "conserving culture and tradition", keep in mind that the left also does that


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is the core of fascism.


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
That sounds like what radical leftists do with white people tbh


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Zapatista Army in Chiapas makes quite an effort to preserve local native culture


[18-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nile#1441
lol, what culture and tradition does the left conserve


[18-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is very attractive for radical groups because it provides a means to gain power even if the majority opposes them.


[18-Dec-18 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile as i stated, mostly the culture of the historically opressed


[18-Dec-18 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm also inclined to say we know more about the culture of the opressor than most of the right, who, most of the time, doesn't even know the plot of Shakespeare's Othello


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, yes, "blakks should be enslaved by whites" is a stone's throw from "kill the jews"


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nile#1441
But for the rest of us, our culture and traditions deserves to be entirely changed


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically the same argument with slightly different details.


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile nah


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You already try to do that to us


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On a systematic scale


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
what does knowing the plot of othello have to do with anything?


[18-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and the Ku Klux Klan considered Jews basically about as bad as blakks)


[18-Dec-18 05:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Attempts at "integrating migrants", gpethnic cleansing, americanization of worldwide culture through globalization...


[18-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Nile#1441
What do I try to do to you


[18-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I support Americanization of worldwide culture


[18-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
culture has no inherent value, only value in what it provides for us


[18-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nile#1441
lol


[18-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make everyone demand free speech and democracy and such


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nile#1441
Cringe


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
makes it a lot harder for places to go around stoning the gays/jews/whatever


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
a lot of American culture is crap.


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the very least, they get caught up in red tape trying to do so


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
all culture is full of crap


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nile#1441
I love American values of homo marriage, abortion and spreading "muh dEmOcRaCy"


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a native american tribe that thinks farts are the Fart Man, most powerful of all spirits, speaking the future thru buttholes


[18-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
>American
>Culture
Pick one and only one


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Now, earlier, when i said shit about adolf hitler and trump, i was legitimately memeing and screenshotting


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
all cultures are valid as culture


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
even imgurian culture


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
dikkbutt as a way to greet diplomatic representatives = totally valid


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but see, that's the thing that's so insidious


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
all these memes we hav, they hav power


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
if people in the middle east are too busy shitposting to genocide each other


[18-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
then mission accomplished


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make everyone in Iraq huge fans of some big titty anime


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
see how well they do at trying to start religious wars


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Middle east most common meme to shitpost is "death to america"


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nile#1441
I'm pretty strong in my beliefs as is, but I'm not insane enough to believe I should enforce them on the world, 'cuz I'm not a burger.


[18-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
weaponized degeneracy


[18-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Treat Saudi Arabians as you would your local weaboo


[18-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
I try to research as much as I can and make conclusions based on what I find


[18-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
make them crave little loli pussies, katanas, fancy cars from Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift


[18-Dec-18 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, i would agree on the "right to free speech and living your life based on how you want it" part, but i'm afraid you're missing the point a bit, Nebbie


[18-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
get them to get mad at their gov't when it doesn't let them watch what they want to or drive fancy cars


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
overthrow the crown prince


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless you're being ironic


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Well, im going to bed


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse no, i know your type, and most of you only research as much as you *want*


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is, erode people's confidence that they are right and others are not to be respected


[18-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
>know my type


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
shatter people's singular cultures


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Explain


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
FORCE cultural diversity


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to break cycles of violence etc.


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Your behavior is quite typical of any barely literate moderate i've seen on the internet


[18-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nile#1441
That is such cringe


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Saudi Arabia has now allowed movie theaters


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cringeworthy*


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
slowly, but surely


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
American movies will influence them.


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Know your internet words ffs


[18-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let the multiculturalism seep in deep.


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
let crowism consume the world


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Nile#1441
Don't tell me what I can and can't use for internet meme words.


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
:murder:


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
worship the smart birb


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Are your experiences similar to others or is that a generalization based on your own research done to the extent that you deem satisfactory (in other words, as much as you want)


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nile then why are you a conservative


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Nile#1441
What do you mean


[18-Dec-18 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse nope, my experiences are quite similar to others


[18-Dec-18 05:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Why are you describing the richest playboys in UAE?


[18-Dec-18 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've seen all the arguments you used before


[18-Dec-18 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've seen many others try to "rationalize their argumentation" without noticing that they're just being offended at words and concepts they don't know


[18-Dec-18 05:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For example, "moderates" and "centrists" love characterizing intersectional feminism as "the opression olympics", despite the fact that any short reading of the work of intersectional feminism's go-to academic, Angela Davis, will show them that such notion is dissuaded


[18-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Arvid#8335
Let's all adapt Trotskyism-Posadism-Hypnoism


[18-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Your smart


[18-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
I like that


[18-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
It gives me things to plug into google and read about


[18-Dec-18 05:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And not even Angela Davis is taken as an infallible guru, academic courses that mention her also mention all the controversy she's received, such as from Arab and/or Muslim women


[18-Dec-18 05:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bottom line is, the left grouping has quite a lot of content surrounding it


[18-Dec-18 05:50 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
By content you mean literary works, correct?


[18-Dec-18 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and not just that


[18-Dec-18 05:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For an easier-to-digest format of leftist theory, i'd recommend YT channel ContraPoints to you


[18-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nile#1441
Very weird YouTuber


[18-Dec-18 05:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed she is


[18-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nile#1441
Not good


[18-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nile#1441
It's off-putting


[18-Dec-18 05:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, that's the point


[18-Dec-18 05:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You have to get used to her kind of humor for a moment, but once you get the gist of it, she knows how to transmit content quite well


[18-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Nile#1441
Very unlikely, I can't even tolerate right-wing YouTubers who do cringey stuff


[18-Dec-18 05:54 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
So after a short search on Angela Davis, i have learned that she was at some point, involved with the black panthers


[18-Dec-18 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that not all of the Black Panthers killed people to make a point


[18-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
I understand


[18-Dec-18 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Blyat_Horse i'd go to bed by this point, though


[18-Dec-18 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If i were you


[18-Dec-18 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's late in the night, and staying up to argue with people over politics this late ain't healthy


[18-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Nile#1441
Sure it is


[18-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Im not trying to argue anymore, just curious


[18-Dec-18 05:57 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Now, to clarify, im not going to change my beliefs anytime soon. I just want to learn about what the other side believes


[18-Dec-18 05:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's in good faith, which is nice


[18-Dec-18 05:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aaaanyway, i have to go to bed myself, it's three in the morning


[18-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Blyat_Horse#7941
Goodnight


[18-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Nile#1441
Lame, I wanted more arguing


[18-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Nile#1441
:Downvote:


[18-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Arvid#8335
Nile is a doo doo head haha :op:


[18-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Nile#1441
You're pee pee in a butt


[18-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Arvid#8335
I b fuckin' yo bitch niggaaaaa 😎


[18-Dec-18 06:01 AM] Nile#1441
I don't have a bitch 😎


[18-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
if you fucked my bitch, you'd be arrested for animal abuse


[18-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
don't fuck my dog >:V


[18-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Nile#1441
Dang


[18-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/440/919/bca.gif

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/440/919/bca.gif


[18-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Arvid#8335
Cursed gif


[18-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyfIOK3ZXQ

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Subcomandante Bat'ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyfIOK3ZXQ
/OURGUY/?
National Bolshevism with Paganist Charecteristics confirmed
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RdyfIOK3ZXQ/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 06:33 AM] Nile#1441
You guys can have Varg, I don't want him.


[18-Dec-18 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZM9YdO_QKk

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Tom Scott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZM9YdO_QKk
The Consequences of Your Code
This is the story of one of the best, and also one of the worst, text messages I've ever received. It's about harm, about consequences, and about the respons...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LZM9YdO_QKk/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
this is why philosophy is important in STEM


[18-Dec-18 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
basically anyone can be trained to write code, it's writing ethical code that's the problem


[18-Dec-18 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
the same thing in chemistry, physics, and especially engineering


[18-Dec-18 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
engineering actually have to agree to a certain type of ethical code


[18-Dec-18 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
to the point that you have to flat out refuse jobs if a company tries to make you do something that will force you to choose profit over safety


[18-Dec-18 07:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:caw:


[18-Dec-18 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
of course, then you get indian, chinese, and other asian universities doing the absolute least amount of education possible to transfer to engineering programs in the US not even knowing how to do algebra and then go back to become engineers


[18-Dec-18 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
there'll always be some way to take a path of least resistance that leads to the degradation of moral and ethical standards


[18-Dec-18 08:21 AM] byte[]#2610
People who don't care about the ethics of their code are lemons


[18-Dec-18 08:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lemons to be dropped


[18-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nile#1441
🍋 💧


[18-Dec-18 08:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/06/democratic-national-committee-voters-data-1045995

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/06/democratic-national-committee-voters-data-1045995
'We have a crisis': Democrats at war over trove of voter data
A plan pushed by the Democratic National Committee has triggered a fierce backlash within the party, which is already lagging behind Donald Trump.
https://static.politico.com/d6/54/252358f742c28f43f462caf97272/181205-dnc-gtty-773.jpg


[18-Dec-18 08:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for-profit voter database


[18-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism


[18-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nile#1441
Can you explain "neoliberalism" ? I'm in a server with a bunch of socialists and ancoms and they use it all the time and I have no clue what it really means.


[18-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mS1SgI73k

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donoteat01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mS1SgI73k
Cities Skylines | Franklin Episode 7: Liberalism
Not much urbanism in this episode, but a lot of political economy which will illuminate some of the decisions and policies which will come later in the serie...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/97mS1SgI73k/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nile#1441
>20 mins
Chief


[18-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
that goes into the history of liberalism and how it relates to neoliberalism


[18-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically the root of capitalism


[18-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Nile#1441
If it wasn't almost 3 am I'd have no issue watching this, but I gotta keep myself awake and watch this :Luna:


[18-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Neoliberalism is the newish concept of deregulation and privatization


[18-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Shortest answer


[18-Dec-18 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism's basic tenet is that doing economic things selfishly is beneficial to society


[18-Dec-18 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
it basically justifies ignoring the suffering of your neighbors due to economic hardship because they're just "lazy" and "don't work as hard"


[18-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
so instead of "let's build roads because it helps me stay in contact with my neighbors"


[18-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Nile#1441
Libs who like capitalism?


[18-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's "let's build roads because it'll let my neighbors reach me easier and let me sell things to them"


[18-Dec-18 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
no


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Liberism is the root of capitalism


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nile#1441
:luna:


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism is only semi-related to the left vs right thing


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nile#1441
:Luna:


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Nile#1441
I hate this neoliberal thing already, it’s weird


[18-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
the true majority party in the US is neoliberalism


[18-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
both mainstream republicans and mainstream democrats are neoliberal


[18-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
trump is the first non-neoliberal president we've had since before carter


[18-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Liberalism has become a nonsense word in America to mean left of center but it's right there in the name liberty


[18-Dec-18 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
he's conservative, though he's being controlled by neoliberals


[18-Dec-18 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Even left of center isn't correct cause it's used to mean basically anyone repubs don't like


[18-Dec-18 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
like the democrat party isn't actually a leftist party, it only attracts the leftists due to its stance on gay marriage and abortion


[18-Dec-18 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
the US's politics generally boil down to "vote against the party you hate" more than "vote for who you like"


[18-Dec-18 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
which is the inevitable conclusion of a two-party system


[18-Dec-18 09:06 AM] Nile#1441
So how do you suppose getting in new blood and none of the neoliberal people, like leftists or true conservatives


[18-Dec-18 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
There's been a little bit with AOC getting elected


[18-Dec-18 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, like 6 or 7 representatives that got in are actual leftists


[18-Dec-18 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
in the election last month


[18-Dec-18 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically a response to an actual conservative getting elected president


[18-Dec-18 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
But mostly the Dems need to become the workers party again instead of trying to just cultivate the highly educated coastal voters


[18-Dec-18 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
even if trump isn't allowed to do his conservative agenda because of his neoliberal handlers, pretty much everything he tweets about is conservative


[18-Dec-18 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Back around the  turn of the century Dems got their votes from farmers


[18-Dec-18 09:09 AM] Honahue#0656
20th century we're about a fifth of the way through this one I should remember


[18-Dec-18 09:11 AM] Nile#1441
I don’t think Trump’s that conservative, especially considering the people I talk to


[18-Dec-18 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
To my understanding, neoliberalism is like


[18-Dec-18 09:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Dems still kinda get union votes but unions have been so throughly gutted it's not enough to matter


[18-Dec-18 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classical Liberalism, but protectionist?


[18-Dec-18 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
btw, the new representative orientation is basically a capitalist propaganda reel https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-harvard-house-orientation-lobbyists-2018-12

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https://www.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-harvard-house-orientation-lobbyists-2018-12
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams Harvard orientation for freshman la...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized the longstanding congressional intro program at Harvard Kennedy School meant to show new lawmakers the ropes.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c0e483d93276643744df9f2-1334-667.jpg


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait no


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
I remember when I saw that article on google news, the rest of the articles were about her revealing her jewish heritage


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's older than that


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
instead of actual fucking news


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think neoliberalism cares for protectionism, free trade allows companies to move to tax havens and get cheap labor


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
neoliberalism is anti-protectionist


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
think John McCain


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is most of US politicians lol


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally everywhere


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it most closely matches him


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism is supply-side economics taken to the extreme


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is like, gov't just helps you get to a tax haven and makes sure there are no tariffs


[18-Dec-18 09:12 AM] Nile#1441
It’d be interesting if the U.S had fringe ideas gain momentum


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't get taxed any as a business


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the poor can be taxed


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
to subsidize your business


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav free trade, it's really easy to do business, and businesses make a killing come tax time


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
stokk market goes crazy etc. etc.


[18-Dec-18 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
GDP goes thru the roof


[18-Dec-18 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, lower-middle class people get hit by buses and lose all their money


[18-Dec-18 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but hey, works for the rich


[18-Dec-18 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism is the root of this idea that the free market is inherently better than all other things.


[18-Dec-18 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That if there's any problems with services...the free market will help!


[18-Dec-18 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare problems? Market isn't free enuff!


[18-Dec-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are dying to drug overdoses? Market isn't free enuff.


[18-Dec-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're at war? Market isn't free enuff.


[18-Dec-18 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
War's over? Good, market can be freed some.


[18-Dec-18 09:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you got hit by a car? Market isn;t free enough


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think of like the idea that regulation is basically ENSLAVING the market, and that's BAD, @Nile, that's neoliberalism.


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classical Liberalism is much of the same, but it doesn't go as far.


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Nile#1441
Sounds like ancaps


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
crow steals your shiny shit? market needs to be freer imo


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[18-Dec-18 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ancaps are the most extreme variety of neolibs


[18-Dec-18 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the purest, most evil form of it.


[18-Dec-18 09:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your bike got stolen by some random rich dude in the street?the market wasnt free enough for him to take a helicopter


[18-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
It's worse, in economics they say that price floors or ceilings create a dead weight loss in the market which mean that society is losing something because of inefficiencies. They try to give it fancy names so they sound intelligent instead of hyperbolic


[18-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
But there's also "market failures"


[18-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Which is basically everything


[18-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classical Liberalism will say that the gov't is just there to prevent people enslaving each other


[18-Dec-18 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism will say that the gov't should allow people to enslave each other a little, cause preventing it would make the market nonfree.


[18-Dec-18 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ancaps will all but say slavery is okay.


[18-Dec-18 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
what was the caldari's stance on slavery again?


[18-Dec-18 09:20 AM] Honahue#0656
"I wouldn't ever do it but it is literally rape that the government won't allow me to shoot heroin while flying a private plane."


[18-Dec-18 09:20 AM] Honahue#0656
"full of child sex slaves"


[18-Dec-18 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I looked it up and apparently the caldari had no history of slavery despite it's supercapitalist society


[18-Dec-18 09:20 AM] Honahue#0656
-Murry Rothbard probably


[18-Dec-18 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
(EVE online faction)


[18-Dec-18 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
"Slavery is a completely alien concept to most Caldari. Despite this, they do not consider it necessarily immoral. Rather, the Caldari view slavery through a very practical lens. While they understand slaves provide ostensibly free labor, they also realize that a slave owner needs to feed, house, and clothe his slaves. Additionally, though slaves can produce items of value, they are unable to purchase anything and thus cannot contribute to a healthy economy."


[18-Dec-18 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the Caldari think it's a waste of money to provide workers with care directly.


[18-Dec-18 09:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Even the fictional hyper capitalists have more morality than Murry Rothbard


[18-Dec-18 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
"Therefore, the Caldari view slavery as a misguided notion that does more harm to an economy (and thus a proper society) than good."


[18-Dec-18 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar reasoning to why Henry Ford gave workers Saturday off


[18-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one more day for people to buy cars if they don't hav to work it.


[18-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lived in a time when neolibs weren't terribly common


[18-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Keynesian (demand-side) economics was king


[18-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
under the idea that, hey, if people actually hav a fukking livable wage, they'll buy all these expensive goods


[18-Dec-18 09:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Ferengi had something like that when they decided to let women wear clothes, clothes mean pockets they'll want to fill with money and they'd open up a huge new market


[18-Dec-18 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
as opposed to the idea that people don't need a livable wage if you just funnel all the money to the business owners.


[18-Dec-18 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and that the more efficient businesses free of taxation will thus make goods so cheap that people will be able to live cheaply on practically nothing)


[18-Dec-18 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
henry ford was an economic liberal (the predecessor of neoliberals)


[18-Dec-18 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

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[18-Dec-18 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[18-Dec-18 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Nile Silicon Valley is a big, big example of neolib philosophy in action


[18-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So early on, in California's constitution, they put in place this thing that disallowed any law that would prevent exercising a profession


[18-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means no non-compete clauses


[18-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can hire a worker straight out of someone's business as a competitor to that business


[18-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
to work for you IMMEDIATELY


[18-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if they're not yet out of that other business


[18-Dec-18 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you can steal all the trade secrets this way, as long as nobody can prove you stole actual documents


[18-Dec-18 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This creates extremely rapid competition and innovation


[18-Dec-18 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
This is the definition of a positive externality


[18-Dec-18 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of highly-educated workers where the brightest get grabbed between different companies


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is a whole community develops that just spews innovation


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and also huge companies monopolize thru unethical business practices


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and meanwhile


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the countryside that didn't undergo this rapid economic growth is now way further behind and losing money to these big companies


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
this wealth gap creates hardship


[18-Dec-18 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what's going on with America


[18-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
like I've said, the US will die if neoliberalism isn't pushed out


[18-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the countryside has stagnant wages because all the jobs are for big companies made possible by neolib rules or outright rising in the big metro areas


[18-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
and it's dug in hard


[18-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
while those big metro areas hav rising wages+costs that push out lower class workers by making them unable to afford basic stuff


[18-Dec-18 09:29 AM] Honahue#0656
The US will likely take a lot of other countries with it too


[18-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they pump out innovation like nobody's business


[18-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
there's a lot of grassroots movements that contain both conservatives and leftists trying to push out neoliberals


[18-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seattle will just grow grow grow and put out new ideas constantly that make tons of money


[18-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, its homeless population will skyrokket


[18-Dec-18 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazon will fight to the death over any laws that try to tax it to help these homeless


[18-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yes, this is part of the polarization problem


[18-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
neolib philosophy has super urbanized things with lefties sheparded into cities due to their affiliations with newer ideas


[18-Dec-18 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
leaving the countryside full of conservatives


[18-Dec-18 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
While, ostensibly, the left opposes neolib philosophy, the neolibs among it are pervasive among the big businesses in these areas...which hav the money to change legislation via lobbying easily.


[18-Dec-18 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so you see behavior in these areas that would not be out of place among conservatives, particularly targeting the homeless created by these neolib rules.


[18-Dec-18 09:34 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd argue we aren't even innovating anymore, all the phones have the same features, all the apps are owned by huge companies, we're reaching the physical limits of chip architecture and quantum computing is likely only good for weird shit average people won't do often or ever


[18-Dec-18 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, the rich are trying to make themselves richer and literally kill the poor, and they've infested both parties really hard, to the point Republicans are basically solely them and Democrats are struggling to not be solely them.


[18-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, we are still innovating


[18-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
just in slightly different areas


[18-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
self-driving cars are a big deal


[18-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
as are rokkets that can take us to Mars


[18-Dec-18 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
as are completely automated warehouses


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazon didn't hav a normal hiring spike this year for the holiday season


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally, more pakkages means more humans


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they're automating more and more of their facilities


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
so more pakkages just means more active robots.


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Rockets to Mars have been possible for decades we just didn't have the political will


[18-Dec-18 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a vast difference between an Atlas or Delta series rokket and a Falcon series rokket


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Not really


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, really


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
The both still use RP 1


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the technical specs, the capabilities, the reliability


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just about the fuel


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Atlas doesn't solely use RP-1


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Fuel is the limiting factor of a rocket


[18-Dec-18 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Delta doesn't use it for the first stage


[18-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fuel is not currently the limiting factor


[18-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia pushed RP-1 to pretty much its limit


[18-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Falcon 9 however went further with that


[18-Dec-18 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and is still pushing more efficiency


[18-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Honahue#0656
They're switching to methane but we've basically known the limits of coventional chemical rockets for decades


[18-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav not hit the limits


[18-Dec-18 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Methane is much better for a few reasons, but there are improvements being made completely unrelated to it


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Honahue#0656
So? We know the limit though there's only so many joules in chemical fuel


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reaching that limit is not at all easy.


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's where innovation comes in.


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
New engineering that lets us approach the limit.


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Everything else is trying to get pumps and materials to hit that limit which it never can


[18-Dec-18 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using both a fuel-rich and an oxidizer-rich turbopump is a big deal.


[18-Dec-18 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's coming with the Raptor engine


[18-Dec-18 09:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah it's fancy but it's not like a gas engine running about 30% efficient, rockets are way closer to the theoretical max already it's like an Olympic sprinter now you're just shaving microseconds


[18-Dec-18 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That really does matter in rokketry tho


[18-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Honahue#0656
It does but it wasn't impossible to go to Mars 10 years ago it was just unpopular


[18-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not really possible to send humans to Mars economically 10 years ago


[18-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Elon Musk is just a good sales man though


[18-Dec-18 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
anything talking about a Mars program happening in like the 90s is complete and utter fantasy


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are STILL unsolved problems getting to Mars


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
He's got a grey cult of personality that NASA doesn't


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
tbh the whole silicon valley hyperinnovation thing really showcases how good capitalism is, but it needs some serious restraints to prevent big ass companies from having any political power at all


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it is unlikely Starship will be able to do it in its initial iterations


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, you can send dead men to Mars


[18-Dec-18 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Even then getting to Mars is fine staying there is hard


[18-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Getting back even harder


[18-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
getting someone to actually set foot on Mars means a very good protective vehicle.


[18-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the only reason it's even up for consideration is COST


[18-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply


[18-Dec-18 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
a Delta IV Heavy is ungodly expensive to launch


[18-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
as is anything similar other than the Falcon Heavy


[18-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Honahue#0656
And it's no were near enough


[18-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Honahue#0656
They still smaller than the Saturn 5


[18-Dec-18 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX not only has a huge structural advantage by being vertically integrated, but also regularly innovates


[18-Dec-18 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making a better RP-1 engine while everyone else was content to buy the Russian engines (Russia really got hooked on RP-1 as a better fuel than Hydrogen and it led to some good engines) was a big deal


[18-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
ULA is currently held up with Congress capping how many RD-180s they can use


[18-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of an issue to rely on another country for your rokket engines etc.


[18-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
literally the only downside to working for spacex is that musk expects you to be able to work as much as him without burning out


[18-Dec-18 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Makes for uncertain supplying, which can jakk up price due to skittish investors etc.


[18-Dec-18 09:49 AM] Crow#5457
and for him, "light work" is 70+ hours a week


[18-Dec-18 09:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Everyone liked rp1 because it's was easier logistically


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX also only uses components that can be reused


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you fire it once, reset, it can fire again


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big change for rokketry.


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Also Musk is a hack, it's a lot easier to work 70+ hours a week when you can afford assistances to do your house chores something his engineers can't do


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
A BIG change.


[18-Dec-18 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rokketry historically relies on a lot of oneshot components in staging.


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's why spacex's rate of launching is so absurdly high


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
they can reuse all the parts that they know will work because it worked before


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Explosive bolts to remove unneeded stuff, and engines that literally corrode their valves away when they light.


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a big change but it does make the rockets less efficient, they have to use some fuel to land which means that at the point in flight the rockets equation is actually in your side you stop turn around and land


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's all well and good except...none of the Apollo LEM ascent engines could be tested before use


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's muuuch more efficient costwise


[18-Dec-18 09:51 AM] Honahue#0656
There's a reason the reusable version can't take as much to orbit


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Depends really


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about booster recovery


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget about stages landing on barges for a moment


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Is the extra tonnage in orbit worth more or less? It can be a tough call


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX doesn't allow exposive bolts or single-firing engines, PERIOD


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is a huuuuuge deal


[18-Dec-18 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a completely different approach/paradigm to rokketry.


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that instead of relying on perfect engineering, you can test every component before launch


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
including STAGE SEPARATION


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah, I'm not sold that it isn't just marketing wank from Musk


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Crow#5457
I like musk because he's actually insane and is willing to blow huge amounts of money on very risky ventures


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX fires all of its engines before launch


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and no, this is not marketing


[18-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when the Zuma payload failed to deploy?


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or what happened to Soyuz 11?


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Musknis a used car salesman just like Jobs or any other billionaire


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Zuma used a deployment mechanism that was untested


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it didn't work.


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
except he isn't pretending to be what he isn't


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soyuz 11 lost all three cosmonauts


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
unlike jobs and edison


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
because explosive bolts went off simultaneously instead of with a very, very slight delay


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Musk had a spacex rocket blow up feuling in the pad, NASA last did that in the 60's


[18-Dec-18 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[18-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo had worries over explosive bolts with Apollo 13


[18-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Soyuz is the safest manned rocket


[18-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had to overpressurize the hatch to compensate


[18-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Two shuttles have blown up


[18-Dec-18 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX having these things be testable to find these problems early is a big deal.


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Honahue#0656
The 60's it was a solved problem for 50 years almost


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will not be a Soyuz 11 on SpaceX's watch, and there probably won't be an Apollo 13


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
he is smart and picks up on concepts very quickly, plus he's not egotistical enough to think he can do everything on his own like nikola was


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo 13 happened because of poor testing of electrical components


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA didn't chekk their thermometers correctly


[18-Dec-18 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX's greater culture of testing would've found such a problem


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
you may note how often they delay launches


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's because they do very rigorous testing


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Honahue#0656
60's NASA was in a rush they didn't get time to test shit


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
if anything's wrong, they redo things


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA often just was in the position of never testing thoroughly


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what led to Challenger


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Honahue#0656
They couldn't


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they couldn't


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they built things that couldn't be tested


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Honahue#0656
They weren't allowed because of politics


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't test a space shuttle SRB


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's physically not possible


[18-Dec-18 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you can't unfire an SRB


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX doesn't use things you can't unfire, as a rule.


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Honahue#0656
That was actually a known problem that upper leadership ignored


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't a certain-known, tho


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not saying that elon musk is some kind of benevolent god, he's had a lot of accusations of worker's rights violations


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a probability.


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are always probabilities to deal with in rokketry


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Crow#5457
but he gets things done incredibly well


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing is 100% certain to work


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Honahue#0656
NASA engineers knew the srbs gaskets didn't like cold


[18-Dec-18 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why testing is a big deal.


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they didn't know for sure whether the gasket could handle it or not.


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
But the leadership was under pressure to get results


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of uncertainty without testing leads to failures


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if NASA leadership was able to say "delay the launch"


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually, a gasket would fail under slightly less bad circumstances


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's just how it goes when you cannot test your fukking rokket


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX **can** test their rokket if they want to.


[18-Dec-18 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
That's some bogus reasoning, the engineers told leadership to not go because they knew it could be an issue leadership ignored the warnings


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's not


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would be physically impossible to verify the engineer's ideas


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
like elon musk funding a team of engineers and an army of robots would be the ultimate pinnacle of the good that neoliberalism can bring


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is so much better when the people in charge aren't in it for the money


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no magic wand you can wave whereby NASA would hav a way to know if the SRB would fail or not without risking those lives.


[18-Dec-18 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
then again, I think that can be said about everything in general


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah they could have, delayed till warmer weather at the advice of the engineers


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a fundamental structural issue in how NASA did things and how every other launch provider but SpaceX does things.


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't tell them, tho.


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was uncertain what weather was safe


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
money isn't the root of all evil, it's the root of insanity and loss of rational decision-making


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they would not know weather was truly unsafe until they lost a shuttle to it.


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Honahue#0656
To leadership only, something that Musk is just as prone too


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
it's why people who win hundreds of millions of dollars in the lottery are suddenly even poorer than they were before winning a year or two later


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[18-Dec-18 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
to the engineers


[18-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way the could possibly hav really tested things is by flying dummy SRBs in various weather conditions


[18-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would be ridiculously expensive


[18-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and therefore impractical.


[18-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will always be a limit you're butting up against, where you only know after you test.


[18-Dec-18 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA engineers could not test.


[18-Dec-18 10:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Or, alternatively they could check the material specs of the gaskets something anything that fly's has done to it and wow you know what the engineers knew.at NASA? The gaskets don't do well in cold


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Material specs do not always tell you real-world performance


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem can be repeated exposure to cold


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
at which point even if the current temp is fine


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the gasket can hav already failed


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you won't know without either taking the whole thing apart or launching


[18-Dec-18 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they launched.


[18-Dec-18 10:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Srbs are reusable but when you rebuild an engine gaskets always get replaced


[18-Dec-18 10:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Unless your mechanic hates you


[18-Dec-18 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the trouble


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those o-rings weren't ever tested in the cold, btw


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The engineers had doubts yes


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but doubts aren't the same thing as data.


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You HAV TO test.


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And SpaceX tests *everything*.


[18-Dec-18 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a significant difference for how failures can occur.


[18-Dec-18 10:07 AM] Honahue#0656
NASA did too for Apollo it was called Gemini, NASA isn't generally in the business of sending shit.up.and praying it works


[18-Dec-18 10:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Except when they do...


[18-Dec-18 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those used completely different sets of hardware, it's a different level of testing.


[18-Dec-18 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX tests the individual hardware that will be launching


[18-Dec-18 10:07 AM] Honahue#0656
That's true and SpaceX blows.up too


[18-Dec-18 10:08 AM] Honahue#0656
On the pad fueling something NASA didn't do for 50 years


[18-Dec-18 10:08 AM] Honahue#0656
With a multi-million dollar satillite on it


[18-Dec-18 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was a fueling test btw


[18-Dec-18 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, they test


[18-Dec-18 10:08 AM] Honahue#0656
SpaceX has lost payloads


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes, it can blow up the rokket to test


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's better it blows up during a test than during a launch


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
with people, they would do the test without them on board


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Honahue#0656
They haven't lost people because none of their rockets are deemed man worthy


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
satellites are a different matter


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Honahue#0656
They're accident rate is still too high


[18-Dec-18 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their accident rate is about average for rokketry


[18-Dec-18 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like it or not, rokkets blowing up happens, and it used to happen a lot more often in the 60s


[18-Dec-18 10:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I know it does


[18-Dec-18 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX's two big failures out of well over 50 launches is reasonable for modern accident rates.


[18-Dec-18 10:10 AM] Honahue#0656
But I'm not drinking Musks koolaide because he's a salesman and that's what they get you to do


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
he's more of a philanthropist than a salesman


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not drinking Musk's koolaid just because I recognize massive success.


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Wee


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
and he gets results, despite his overly risky behavior


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is doing things very differently and has been innovating


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8uyilHatBA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8uyilHatBA
elon r u ok
...elon?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a8uyilHatBA/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
watch this


[18-Dec-18 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
he's actually fucking insane


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
not in a "oh god he's so amazing" way


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
but in a "oh god how does this even work"


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah that's why I don't trust him


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to trust him


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah just his shareholders


[18-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
his company is doing things to achieve his goals, but is full of very competent engineers and managers who are actually able to do what needs to be done


[18-Dec-18 10:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Except labor practices


[18-Dec-18 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
his shareholders dislike him


[18-Dec-18 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
he's so risky and unpredictable


[18-Dec-18 10:14 AM] Honahue#0656
They should he's a salesman no one likes a salesman till they have a billion dollars then people like up around the block to fellate them


[18-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
actually, I laughed when I heard he was getting fined


[18-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in regards to reusing rokkets and cost savings


[18-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a MASSIVE cost reduction to even use a booster twice vs. once


[18-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
because he's a rich dude, he can take the heat


[18-Dec-18 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most expensive part of a rokket is the engines.


[18-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything else pretty much just serves to hold things together and get fuel to the engines, and is just cheap metal etc.


[18-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
the feds aren't going after him because he actually did anything particularly nasty from a rich person's point of view, but because people who have huge bribery networks in congress are threatened by him


[18-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
but he's a big boy, so he can handle it


[18-Dec-18 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The engines however hav the most intricate components, and the highest-stress-bearing components (meaning stronger materials, so rarer metals generally)


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why for OmegA, they're going to recover just the engines


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically the ultimate hypocrisy to go after him for things while other rich people get away with so much worse


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, Falcon 9's 9 stands for the engines it has in the first stage


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
like 5 states have basically banned sales of his cars because of bribery


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
9 Merlin engines aren't cheap


[18-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only other thing that comes close is the new titanium grid fins


[18-Dec-18 10:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Agreed but I also don't believe there's such a thing as an ethical billionaire, and considering he's the same guy that runs Trala and is notorious for bad labor practices there too I'm not inclined to change my opinion


[18-Dec-18 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
he's not ethical


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the cost to bring a booster bakk to flight-ready, it's basically topping up all the fuel and repairing minor damage


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
I never said ethical, he just gets things done


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and fuel is the CHEAPEST part of rokketry


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kerosene is peanuts compared to everything else


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah, it is really nice kerosene though but you are right


[18-Dec-18 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
that's why I said if you gave him some engineers and an army of robots to do the actual building, he'd be the ultimate example of the good that neoliberalism is capable of


[18-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
but any actual human workers would be fucked by his insane work ethic


[18-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Well it'd be nice if the engineers could have family lives too


[18-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Honahue#0656
His work ethic only works cause he can afford assistants


[18-Dec-18 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that he doesn't actually push the issue, even if he complains about it


[18-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is also gonna try to reuse fairings


[18-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are another somewhat-expensive part


[18-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they need to be really hard


[18-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they're fairly big


[18-Dec-18 10:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Joe engineer trying to keep up is going to push his family away and end up in therapy


[18-Dec-18 10:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Also what Musk calls a 70+ hour week probably isn't him pouring over shit the whole time I bet a decent amount are business lunches and drinks, maybe some golf


[18-Dec-18 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
he doesn't push his engineers to do the stuff they do, they all do it willingly


[18-Dec-18 10:28 AM] Crow#5457
some can't handle doing it for long, so they move on, or they take breaks


[18-Dec-18 10:28 AM] Honahue#0656
That's expensive brain drain though


[18-Dec-18 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
in the end, he actually does very well at avoiding forcing his employees to do insane time with no compensation for a rich guy


[18-Dec-18 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
with only a few accusations when they were trying to push out the model 3


[18-Dec-18 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
which resulted in settlements iirc


[18-Dec-18 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I love that government shut downs aere now an annual event


[18-Dec-18 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
merry christmas everyone! and a happy government shut down!


[18-Dec-18 06:00 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/RUctcAlzY6E

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The Red Elephants Vincent James
https://youtu.be/RUctcAlzY6E
Berkeley is About to Take Control of All Social Media Platforms
Berkeley D-Lab is About to Take Control of All Social Media Platforms We are 100% viewer funded - Join us on Patreon! CHANNEL SUPPORT AND SOCIAL MEDIA: ✔️Sub...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RUctcAlzY6E/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 06:01 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
In other words. They're trying to implement the YT and Tumblr ALGORITHIMS to police speech online.


[18-Dec-18 06:01 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And we know how sloppy those algorithims can be.


[18-Dec-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[18-Dec-18 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*cue the entirety of amazon being taken down by the algorithm*


[18-Dec-18 06:09 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Totally not Orwellian


[18-Dec-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
doubt.jpg


[18-Dec-18 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
tumblr doesn't have an algorithm


[18-Dec-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
YT's "algorithm" is an optimizer function for watch time


[18-Dec-18 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
that's... all it does


[18-Dec-18 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
YT's algorithm is still quite shoddy at determining viewer preferences


[18-Dec-18 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it tries to profile you based on what it thinks you might be interested in, and then tries to recommend videos to you based on what it thinks you will spend the most time watching


[18-Dec-18 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't do anything to "police" speech, if anything it makes it much easier for conspiracy nuts to take hold


[18-Dec-18 07:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed


[18-Dec-18 07:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People forget that Tumblr is still letting its far-right accounts live on free, despite banning porn


[18-Dec-18 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
why are progressives becoming so prudish

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[18-Dec-18 07:32 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Youtube's Algorithm is garbage


[18-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
too many times I've been recommended deliberately inflammatory and click-bait videos


[18-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and even when I reject them


[18-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
they keep coming back after a week


[18-Dec-18 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
because it sees that other people with similar interest to you spend a lot of time watching them


[18-Dec-18 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
get better interests :P


[18-Dec-18 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"get better interests"


[18-Dec-18 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LIBTARD OWNED WITH FACTS AND LOGIC


[18-Dec-18 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you know who I hate that keeps popping up in my feed


[18-Dec-18 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Presh Talwalkar/Mind Your Decisions


[18-Dec-18 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Never heard of him


[18-Dec-18 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalDbjj2bL4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABj3IC9pYlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6qFTfmxndM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJQaxZvlYs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NalDbjj2bL4
Can You Solve A Problem That Stumped A Stanford Math Major? The Ra...
I majored in math at Stanford, but this geometry problem stumped me and I had to look up the solution. A square is inscribed in a circle. A smaller square is...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NalDbjj2bL4/maxresdefault.jpg

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MindYourDecisions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABj3IC9pYlQ
Most US College Students Cannot Solve This Basic Math Problem. The...
To complete a job, it takes: Alice and Bob 2 hours, Alice and Charlie 3 hours, and Bob and Charlie 4 hours. How long will the job take if all 3 work together...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ABj3IC9pYlQ/maxresdefault.jpg

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MindYourDecisions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6qFTfmxndM
Only 25% Could Solve This 8th Grade Geometry Problem
What is angle A in the star-shaped figure? This problem appeared on the 1999 AMC 8 test (intended for 8th grade students in the US). Approximately 75% of tes...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s6qFTfmxndM/maxresdefault.jpg

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MindYourDecisions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJQaxZvlYs
A Chinese 5th Grader Solved This In Just 1 Minute! HARD Geometry P...
Thanks to Bill from New York for this suggestion! Bill emailed me a problem asked to 5th graders in China to identify talented students. A few very talented ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OuJQaxZvlYs/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-18 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh.


[18-Dec-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
here's a parody video that pretty much sums all that up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYLS5FJ9GWs

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Flammable Maths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYLS5FJ9GWs
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[18-Dec-18 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
MosT PEOpLE CaNnOT sOLVe ThiS proBLEm!


[18-Dec-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
by one of my favorite YT mathematicians


[18-Dec-18 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
(you might want to watch one first before looking at the parody)


[18-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Nile#1441
It's all cringe


[18-Dec-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[18-Dec-18 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
ur cringe


[18-Dec-18 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cringeworthy*


[18-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nile#1441
Bro


[18-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nile#1441
Cringe is a word


[18-Dec-18 07:43 PM] Nile#1441
🔫


[18-Dec-18 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a verb


[18-Dec-18 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not an adjective


[18-Dec-18 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cringeworthy, otoh, is an adjective


[18-Dec-18 07:43 PM] Nile#1441
It's an adjective now :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust:


[18-Dec-18 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
back to my query


[18-Dec-18 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
why are progressives becoming so prudish


[18-Dec-18 07:57 PM] DevField#5162
They are? 🤔


[18-Dec-18 07:57 PM] Nile#1441
I dunno but I like it


[18-Dec-18 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people need taboos to maintain a justification for retaining their own class against the lower classes.

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[18-Dec-18 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Progressives are tied, via silicon valley and neoliberalism, to the rich


[18-Dec-18 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, a subset of rich people who want to use DIVERSITY as a lever to divert attention away from the inequalities actually faced by making token efforts towards equality


[18-Dec-18 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If there are no taboos, people end up saying that X rich person is no better than anyone else and we should steal their money


[18-Dec-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
one taboo is racism and going against "progress"


[18-Dec-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but sex is always taboo


[18-Dec-18 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a reliable way to say that you are better than someone else because you don't behave like they do sexually.


[18-Dec-18 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause sex, especially combined with children or other existing taboos, inherently evokes strong emotional reactions.


[18-Dec-18 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a society with very little social stratification, you'll see all kinds of weird sexual behavior out in the open, Native Americans pretty much let kids fukk each other in public and pretty much the only thing that was taboo sexually in many tribes was rape of people in your own tribe.


[18-Dec-18 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Raping that captive girl? Totally okay, but maybe keep the screams from the first few times in the teepee.


[18-Dec-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, rich people historically get away with whatever's sexually taboo anyways because they hav the money to hide it etc.


[18-Dec-18 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't any actually better on sexual taboos, sexual taboos provide them with a way to fight off the lower classes because the lower classes are easier to catch red-handed


[18-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
what's different now is that we've come to a point where less is taboo, pretty much only kid-fukking, animal-fukking, and rape are actually still taboo


[18-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the rich hav to double down on those


[18-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means ejecting even rich rapists and nuking things if lewd pics of kids are seen


[18-Dec-18 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way the remaining rich look pure and clean and hav tons of social capital (some stolen from those they ejected/nuked)


[18-Dec-18 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why progressives are so prudish, @byte[], it's a political strategy to keep Silicon Valley morally on top.


[18-Dec-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
silicon valley is a land of shiny white degenerates


[18-Dec-18 08:50 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The more I see this channel the more I think the US is a messed up place


[18-Dec-18 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, silicon valley doesn't really try to hide its extreme sexual appetite though


[18-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-ready-to-pounce-on-trumpworld-concessions-to-moscow

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Mueller Ready to Pounce on Trumpworld Concessions to Moscow
New court filings by Mueller’s office could answer a central question of the Russia investigation: What did the Kremlin hope to get from its political machinations?
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[18-Dec-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow what


[18-Dec-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
are you blind?


[18-Dec-18 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you not see Google and Apple and such all crakking down on sexuality while also joining #MeToo?


[18-Dec-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also like, taboos aren't just "you hav sex drive"


[18-Dec-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are "you watch filthy porn", "you like 'em young", "you hav male power fantasies"


[18-Dec-18 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
there's an article every couple of months about the giant orgies people in silicon valley attend


[18-Dec-18 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and?


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
My entire fukking point is that the rich DON'T hav less sex or less taboo sex


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they keep it from being the main talking point


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
so silicon valley doesn't really try to hide its extreme sexual appetite lol


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
you will never see those giant orgies plastered on the evening news


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't care if SOMEONE knows


[18-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
they care what the people overall BELIEVE


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
meh, seems like common knowledge to me


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
also


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
people believing people in Silicon Valley hav orgies


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people believing *the elite* in Silicon Valley or *the progressives* in Silicon Valley hav orgies


[18-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
are 2 very different things


[18-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The former is A-OKAY


[18-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
the latter is time for elites to panic


[18-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about manipulating the image of the upper classes.


[18-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and at this point, the companies themselves are almost the upper class)


[18-Dec-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if many Google employees and Apple employees were caught in an orgy together


[18-Dec-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
that'd be headline news


[18-Dec-18 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it'd be a major PR disaster


[18-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't kinkshame


[18-Dec-18 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK's Prime Minister does not like unicorns. :radiant_hope_unamused: "No Deal Brexit is a Unicorn that needs to be slayed/slaughtered"


[18-Dec-18 09:46 PM] Nile#1441
I'll kinkshame you @Itsthinking


[18-Dec-18 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hand holding


[18-Dec-18 09:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🤝  :trixdisgust:


[18-Dec-18 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-foundation-agrees-dissolve-judge-oversee-dispersal-other-charities-n949386

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-foundation-agrees-dissolve-judge-oversee-dispersal-other-charities-n949386
Trump Foundation agrees to dissolve with judge to oversee dispersal
"Reputable" charities will receive money from the Trump family’s charitable organization, which was formed in 1987.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_51/2464936/180614-trump-family-mn-1115_74e6d48492ce95ed7342671695fa1432.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg

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[19-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tucker-carlson-advertisers-depart-over-poorer-and-dirtier-immigration-comments/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tucker-carlson-advertisers-depart-over-poorer-and-dirtier-immigration-comments/
Tucker Carlson's show loses advertisers over immigration comments
While several are pulling ads, the biggest ones are so far sticking with the Fox News host, despite controversy
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/11/08/3d437669-8e21-475f-aa1a-cdbf0dd26101/thumbnail/1200x630/bcf5ebd789915c38f175d410ede124fd/gettyimages-1052722724.jpg


[19-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Carlson said last Thursday there's pressure from "our leaders" to accept immigrants "even if it makes our own country poorer and dirtier and more divided." He added Monday that in the Southwest, "thanks to illegal immigration, huge swaths of the region are covered with garbage and waste that degrade the soil and kill wildlife."'


[19-Dec-18 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally thinks immigrants are the cause of massive pollution


[19-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one owes you advertising.


[19-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One thing I never get about immigration haters


[19-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of these immigrants aren't going to rural Ohio


[19-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're staying in major urban areas sympathetic to them


[19-Dec-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why then do people in rural Ohio give a fuck?


[19-Dec-18 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They already think SF/LA etc are shitholes.


[19-Dec-18 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they've had their heads filled with stupid about how immigrants are liek locusts who devour all the jobs in one town and thne move ontot he next until, all the jobs are gone


[19-Dec-18 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually by rich assholes who use imigration to divert attention away from their illegla bullshit


[19-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What sort of fucked up "logic" makes people think the ones hoarding the most money aren't the bourgeoisie, but the migrants?


[19-Dec-18 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610

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[19-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientific-paper-trump-turd/

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientific-paper-trump-turd/
FACT CHECK: Is Trump’s Face Hidden in These Baboon Feces?
"The editors have become aware of unusual aspects to the ‘Extract fecal DNA’ illustration in figure 1."
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/12/trump-feces-2.png?fit=1200,628


[19-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
>True


[19-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
trump's tweets later: SCIENCE has DECLARED WAR on the UNITED STATES.


[19-Dec-18 03:35 AM] Nile#1441
Cringe


[19-Dec-18 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Science: bring it bitch


[19-Dec-18 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q add @Nile cringe


[19-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, quote added (@Nile: cringe)


[19-Dec-18 03:37 AM] Nile#1441
wtf


[19-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until a science-based society forms, probably after the bombs drop


[19-Dec-18 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the question is how long till the bombs drop and everything turns to gary?


[19-Dec-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075197395892404231

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075197395892404231
The Democrats, are saying loud and clear that they do not want to build a Concrete Wall - but we are not building a Concrete Wall, we are building artistically designed steel slats, so that you can easily see through it....
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[19-Dec-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
are you kidding me?


[19-Dec-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
artistically designed steel slats


[19-Dec-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
????


[19-Dec-18 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
ARTISTICALLY
DESIGNED
STEEL
SLATS


[19-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, you probably could design them artistically


[19-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be stupidly expensive already to put up steel slats, designing them artistically wouldn't up the cost much more


[19-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://twitter.com/johnpavlovitz/status/1075250342118518784

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John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz)
https://twitter.com/johnpavlovitz/status/1075250342118518784
@PabloGallaga @realDonaldTrump You use the word "retarded."

You're not a decent human being...

... and you literally don't know how to use the word "literally."

Sit down.
Twitter


[19-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like half the opposing replies to donald trump are almost as stupid as his own tweets


[19-Dec-18 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
retards


[19-Dec-18 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
it's in the vernacular, you aren't going to do shit about it


[19-Dec-18 06:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So he is building a metal fence?


[19-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dolphinfencing.com.au/wp-content/themes/Dolphinfencing/images/xslat-fencing-thumb4.jpg.pagespeed.ic.O8UQmHY2h-.jpg

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https://www.dolphinfencing.com.au/wp-content/themes/Dolphinfencing/images/xslat-fencing-thumb4.jpg.pagespeed.ic.O8UQmHY2h-.jpg


[19-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
probably like this


[19-Dec-18 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
only much bigger


[19-Dec-18 06:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That's a metal fence. He promised to build a wall.


[19-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Nile#1441
>"We will build a great wall"
>Wants to build a metal fence instead


[19-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Nile#1441
🤔


[19-Dec-18 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony, scaled up versions of that type of fencing is used in wall building


[19-Dec-18 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://localtvwiti.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/s052260142-300.jpg

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https://localtvwiti.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/s052260142-300.jpg


[19-Dec-18 06:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Internal metal reinforced walls coated in concrete. Without the concrete it is a fence.


[19-Dec-18 06:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll take what is thermite for $500 alex


[19-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/421939-contract-worker-sues-school-district-after-losing-job-for

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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/421939-contract-worker-sues-school-district-after-losing-job-for
Contract worker sues school district after losing job for refusing...
A speech pathologist who served as a contract employee in Texas is suing the school district she once worked for, arguing that a state law forcing her to sign a pro-Israel pledge violates her First amendment rights.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/school_israel_1218.png


[19-Dec-18 06:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Trump is just twisting words at this point, like he's ever done


[19-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If she wins this case


[19-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it basically breaks all existing laws against boycotting Israel


[19-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
which opens floodgates to actually be able to boycott Israel's settlement stuff in the US


[19-Dec-18 06:51 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Israel-hating is more common in my country, which also has a neutral/slightly negative outlook on the US


[19-Dec-18 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
wait there are laws against boycotting israel


[19-Dec-18 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the fuck


[19-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[19-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big one disallows any gov't subsidies going to imports of companies boycotting Israel


[19-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
state gov'ts often hav their own that don't let anyone on gov't money boycott Israel


[19-Dec-18 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
why


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because otherwise, people would screw over Israel financially for it violating human rights of palestineans


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
um


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the US and Israel are extremely close


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
israel should be screwed over financially


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
because they're fucking murdering palestinians


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes, but the US' interests are in Israel murdering all palestineans


[19-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
with US equipment


[19-Dec-18 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar deal as with Saudi Arabia and Yemen, except Saudi Arabia foolishly kills journalists


[19-Dec-18 06:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BUY A SODASTREAM OR YOU'RE FIRED


[19-Dec-18 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel is much more insidious, they'll do shit like send motorcycling assassins into Iran to slap a magnetic bomb on a limo with scientists inside


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That actually worked btw, RIP 2 Iranian scientists


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sodastream is probably the most indefensible company


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that says a lot


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neolibs like Israel because Israel is corrupt


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of their factories are in Israeli settlements


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and arabs oppose business interests


[19-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the less arabs there are, the easier the oil is to get to


[19-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many Arabs have Israel indirectly/directly killed still this point


[19-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably a few tens of thousands


[19-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
also like


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel has no equivalent of the 14th amendment


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arabs in Israel are second-class citizens


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully the next president with sense moves the embassy back to Tel Aviv


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
racial profiling is an explicit part of their airport security


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair


[19-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sense isn't having an embassy in Israel, tbh


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Muslim majority countries discriminate over Israeli stamps


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a horrible country that should be bitchslapped and only given stuff after it starts actually acting sanely


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US pulled out of UNESCO because of a treaty with Israel


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
that says the US cannot ever fund anything that recognizes Palestine as a state


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Palestine joined UNESCO


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously like


[19-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if your organization says Palestine is a state


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
you lose federal funding


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a prominent portion of Americans that would nuke Mecca given the first chance


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
permanently


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Middle East is very good at making countries screw over people in the name of national interests


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
too many mutual hatred situations and resources.


[19-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saudis are fucked in 50 years or so when they realize oil is gone


[19-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the whole Middle East will be Somalia basically


[19-Dec-18 07:03 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll still have tar sands for a while


[19-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything will be either natural gas or tar sands for a while


[19-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Russia and Canada


[19-Dec-18 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US will be the puppet of the former and annex the latter


[19-Dec-18 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated


[19-Dec-18 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/gqx12yvl74521.png

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[19-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[19-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
fracking in the US is so wasteful that there's literally tons of natural gas constantly escaping into the atmosphere


[19-Dec-18 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
since the companies fracking are just in it for the oil


[19-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
and don't bother trying to contain all the natural gas escaping


[19-Dec-18 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
oil companies are not allowed to let gas escape into the atmosphere


[19-Dec-18 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
it has to be flared


[19-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I meant that


[19-Dec-18 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
they have to burn the excess


[19-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
how much does that contribute to CO2 levels


[19-Dec-18 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's about 1% of global emissions


[19-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's the ultimate form of waste


[19-Dec-18 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
the reason for flaring is that CO2 has much less greenhouse potential than CH4


[19-Dec-18 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and truth be told most operations that are flaring substantial amounts of gas get shut in temporarily while they add gas recovery equipment


[19-Dec-18 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
because that stuff is great on oil operations


[19-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
nobody ever comments on the science that I link in general >:V


[19-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
>>>:VVV


[19-Dec-18 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody cares tbh


[19-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
science is fake


[19-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
trump told me so


[19-Dec-18 07:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
You believe him?


[19-Dec-18 07:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Why tho


[19-Dec-18 07:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
@Nebbie the situation regarding Israel is the opposite here


[19-Dec-18 07:28 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
anyone who does *not* recognize Palestine as a state will be seen as a US shill or something like that


[19-Dec-18 07:28 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
or worse have something bad happen to them


[19-Dec-18 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35411684

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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35411684
Conspiracies are 'prone to unravel'
It's difficult to keep a conspiracy under wraps, scientists say, because sooner or later, one of the conspirators will blow its cover.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1506C/production/_87942168_87938817.jpg


[19-Dec-18 08:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Science is hard


[19-Dec-18 08:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
only crows could understand science


[19-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/18/677372822/hold-bipartisan-criminal-justice-bill-closer-to-becoming-law-after-senate-approv

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https://www.npr.org/2018/12/18/677372822/hold-bipartisan-criminal-justice-bill-closer-to-becoming-law-after-senate-approv
Bipartisan Criminal Justice Bill Closer To Becoming Law After Sena...
The Senate voted in favor of legislation that would reduce sentences for some drug crimes and offer training programs for prisoners.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/12/18/gettyimages-1073333018_wide-0bfa7be2a5c8e4d145f05ff97a9d3f850455f39a.jpg?s=1400


[19-Dec-18 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know the real scummy thing about this is


[19-Dec-18 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it took deep work by Jared, one of the president's closest advisors


[19-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
playing real hardball to drum up support from various people


[19-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and constantly reassuring the president that the bill wouldn't bakkfire and make him look bad


[19-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and after all that


[19-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
after all that effort to get support


[19-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
these provisions are absolutely fukking insulting


[19-Dec-18 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't even make the retroactive racially-motivated harsher-crakk-sentencing provision automatic


[19-Dec-18 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
people hav to fukking work to show that their crazy high for no fukking reason sentence should be reducet to only half-crazy high for no fukking reason


[19-Dec-18 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
EIGHT FUKKING YEARS AFTER THAT CHANGE WAS MADE TO BEGIN WITH


[19-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget the pleasantries, Republicans are racist cunts


[19-Dec-18 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is being hailed as some epic compromise as if it actually changes anything


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this is like seeing that you shot a grandma in the chest


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and deciding that instead of just walking away


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
you will yell for help and then walk away


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
while she bleeds the fukk out.


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, the supermajority of congress members are neoliberals


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's progress


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes, it's better


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but for fukk's sake


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is still SUPER immoral


[19-Dec-18 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a complete abandonment of basic reason.


[19-Dec-18 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is like saying you've decided not to completely melt the Earth's crust and will instead simply nuke every single city at once


[19-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we all know that this is going to be the last bill on this matter until Trump is out of office.


[19-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will not accept the second step of progress


[19-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't accept making crakk hav the exact same punishments as cocaine


[19-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't accept removing mandatory minimums


[19-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they won't accept the basic premise that people should be reformed into non-criminals instead of thrown away for life


[19-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they will never, ever accept the idea that when sentencing is determined to be absolutely nonsensical and is reduced later


[19-Dec-18 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that we should automatically apply those reductions instead of put all the damn work onto the people whose lives hav been fukking destroyed.


[19-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are like a fukking schoolyard bully that grabs your arm and starts hitting you in the face with your own hand


[19-Dec-18 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and goes "why are you hitting yourself? Just stop doing it!"


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
.q add @Crow nobody ever comments on the science that I link in general >:V
>>>:VVV


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Stoopedhooy, quote added (@Crow: nobody ever comments on the science that I link in general >:V
>>>:VVV)


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
.q @Crow


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[5/7] @Crow: caw caw


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
:caw: :caw:


[19-Dec-18 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
:murder:


[19-Dec-18 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
:caw::murder::caw::murder:


[19-Dec-18 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/politics/united-states-mexico-central-america-investment.html

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By GARDINER HARRIS and AZAM AHMED
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/politics/united-states-mexico-central-america-investment.html
U.S., Supporting Mexico’s Plan, Will Invest $5.8 Billion in Cent...
The Trump administration and Mexico announced a shared policy to invest in Central America in hopes of stemming the tide of migrants from the region.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/19/us/politics/19dc-diplo/19dc-diplo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[19-Dec-18 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
how much of this investment will actually go into helping


[19-Dec-18 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
and how much are just bribes


[19-Dec-18 11:45 AM] ImpOfficial#9153

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[19-Dec-18 11:45 AM] ImpOfficial#9153
Thanks to Apple


[19-Dec-18 11:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/va-private-care-program-gave-companies-billions-and-vets-longer-waits

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https://www.propublica.org/article/va-private-care-program-gave-companies-billions-and-vets-longer-waits
The VA’s Private Care Program Gave Companies Billions and Vets L...
Trump wants to supersize a program that spent almost a quarter of its funds on overhead.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20181218-va-private-care-1200x630.jpg?1545208329


[19-Dec-18 02:37 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/bump-stocks-ban/index.html

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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/bump-stocks-ban/index.html
Trump administration officially bans bump stocks
The Trump administration rolled out a new federal regulation Tuesday officially banning bump-fire stocks.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181011114942-donald-trump-super-tease.jpg


[19-Dec-18 02:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Remember when people said Trump was a gun rights advocate?


[19-Dec-18 03:21 PM] moonatik#3676
trump has no core ideology lol


[19-Dec-18 03:22 PM] moonatik#3676
he's so easily convinced


[19-Dec-18 03:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-Dec-18 03:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[19-Dec-18 03:22 PM] moonatik#3676
sit him down with bernie sanders for a couple hours in private and before you know it he'll be pushing for UHC


[19-Dec-18 03:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Mhm


[19-Dec-18 03:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Bump stocks ruin a guns accuracy by shifting the stock and grip in motion with the recoil. Better to just finger bump if you what to turn a semi-auto into a full auto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdAhTxyP64

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[19-Dec-18 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you named the bill after trump i;m sure trump woudl endorse the fuck out of it


[19-Dec-18 03:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Maybe more Trump supporters will wake up and realize Trump is another phony


[19-Dec-18 03:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump supporters will double down and eat their bumpstocks.


[19-Dec-18 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we eat the bumpstocks we gain their power!


[19-Dec-18 04:39 PM] moonatik#3676
make a green new deal/infrastructure bill and name it the "make america great again act"


[19-Dec-18 05:42 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/trump-syria-turkey-troop-withdrawal.html

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By HELENE COOPER, ERIC SCHMITT and MARK LANDLER
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/trump-syria-turkey-troop-withdrawal.html
Trump Considering Full Withdrawal of U.S. Troops From Syria
Pentagon officials were trying to talk the president out of the proposed withdrawal, arguing that such a move would betray Kurdish allies who have fought alongside American troops in Syria.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/19/us/20dc-prexy/20dc-prexy-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[19-Dec-18 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is complicated.


[19-Dec-18 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the one hand, yay, less Murican soldiers dying.
On the other, nay, more chance that Assad will betray his Kurdish co-belligerents, and we end up with more Kurds dying.


[19-Dec-18 05:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, yikes, the US trying to placate Erdogan


[19-Dec-18 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway,


[19-Dec-18 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/south-carolina-gop-considering-cancelling-2020-primary-to-favor-trump-2018-12

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South Carolina GOP reportedly considering cancelling 2020 primary ...
South Carolina GOP Chairman Drew McKissick said the party could cancel the 2020 primary in the state to protect Trump from challengers.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c1a5b10519b157f3c6dde8a-750-375.jpg


[19-Dec-18 05:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[19-Dec-18 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This feels very cultish


[19-Dec-18 05:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Well


[19-Dec-18 05:54 PM] Mikey#7286
It specifies the GOP


[19-Dec-18 05:54 PM] Mikey#7286
So


[19-Dec-18 05:55 PM] Mikey#7286
That just means no other Republican can challenge him


[19-Dec-18 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i'm too reluctant to claim the GOP will choose a candidate for 2020 other than the Old Reliable


[19-Dec-18 05:56 PM] Mikey#7286
There are a few GOP planning to run, though


[19-Dec-18 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they finally have a corporate head in charge and they dont want to lose that


[19-Dec-18 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if he's like one of th emost failtastic corporate heads


[19-Dec-18 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/eevee/status/1070431508068937728

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[19-Dec-18 05:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
How *dare* Republicans choose a better candidate


[19-Dec-18 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money is a full on cult religion now


[19-Dec-18 05:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
And wow, how the establishment's changed from bashing to supporting Trump. Or maybe it was for show all along


[19-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
It was probably for show


[19-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is very much pro establishment


[19-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Litrojia#0612
Give him that outsider vibe


[19-Dec-18 06:00 PM] Mikey#7286
He was never not


[19-Dec-18 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money started out as an imaginary creation and now it;s ascended to godhood in the eyes of the powerful


[19-Dec-18 06:02 PM] Mikey#7286
And I still think the GOP hates Trump


[19-Dec-18 06:02 PM] Mikey#7286
But they seem to be using him for their own agendas


[19-Dec-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, he;s their stupid stupid pinata


[19-Dec-18 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure there's a better analogy but imagining the gop beatign trump with sticks is pretty great


[19-Dec-18 06:17 PM] Nile#1441
He's the powerful punching bag of his own party.


[19-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Mikey#7286
He's not even conservative


[19-Dec-18 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46386867

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Could Greenland become China's Arctic base?
The vast northern expanse of Greenland needs investment, and China is willing to help – for a price.
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[19-Dec-18 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/09/15/tax-haven-cash-rising-now-equal-to-at-least-10-of-world-gdp/#7fb36d3470d6

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Tax Haven Cash Rising, Now Equal To At Least 10% Of World GDP
Researchers suggest that nobody really knows who has what and where, or how much money is really out there in off shore bank accounts.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F570361252%2F960x0.jpg%3Ffit%3Dscale


[19-Dec-18 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
http://time.com/5011000/paradise-papers-tax-havens-leak/

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What to Know About the 'Paradise Papers' Leak
The scale of the leak rivals that of last year's Panama Papers
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/gettyimages-80845364.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[19-Dec-18 06:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
@prism stryder(intexda) Can't let this happen


[19-Dec-18 08:50 PM] moonatik#3676
honesty happy to hear that US troops are being pulled out of syria


[19-Dec-18 08:50 PM] moonatik#3676
we (as in NATO as a whole) shouldn't even be involved in that shitshow


[19-Dec-18 08:50 PM] moonatik#3676
it's our involvement that ruined it in the first place


[19-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
no, russia fucked it up beyond all repair to begin with


[19-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
technically the first foreign powers influencing the area were iran and saudi arabia


[19-Dec-18 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
but everything in the area was already beyond fucked up before the US and NATO started stepping in


[19-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
if they had stepped in sooner, we might not have the giant clusterfuck there is today


[19-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing about the middle east is abandoning it doesn't solve it


[19-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
everyone seems to think the middle east is only violent because the west keeps marching troops in


[19-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's not the case


[19-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
the particular way we shoot it up sometimes greatly destabilizes it, but ultimately, to actually fix the middle east, troops are a required step in some fashion


[19-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they can be used to stave off worse destabilization from some other force


[19-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is that the middle east has never really had enuff time at peace to recover


[19-Dec-18 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
If every town in the middle east had good roads and a mcdonald's and internet, things would pretty much work themselves out


[19-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of these things are easy to keep going when <insert country here> decides it could hav more oil by invading somewhere, driving refugees to neighboring countries


[19-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then you hav droughts and floods


[19-Dec-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Except they have everything you just listed.


[19-Dec-18 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
So...

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[19-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do not, especially not in Syria right now


[19-Dec-18 09:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/18/solar-power-energy-firms-government

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Solar households expected to give away power to energy firms
Government confirms anyone who adds solar from April 2019 will not be paid for excess electricity exported to grid
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[19-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big issues are Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan


[19-Dec-18 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Afghanistan ain't even Middle East, lmao


[19-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
which almost form a belt of poor infrastructure (Iran's in the way and doing somewhat okayish)


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It very much is


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Afghanistan is technically in the Middle East region


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those countries together are a hotbed of violence and refugee crises


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bordering South Asia, sure, but it culturally could be considered part of the ME


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
gov'ts there tend to always be corrupt


[19-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of the terrain is deserts or mountains


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What does terrain have to do with it?


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Australia is full of desert and it's doing just fine


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just build a road thru a mountain for cheap


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Switzerland is full of mountains and is also doing just fine


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you can't just build a McDonald's in the desert for cheap


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
relatedly


[19-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Australia has like no people in its desert parts


[19-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Almost everyone is along the coasts, and primarily the eastern coast which is more humid


[19-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland has had tunnels for roads for a long, long time and was making money selling its army to half of Europe


[19-Dec-18 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mercenaries aren't a sustainable commodity


[19-Dec-18 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan do not hav these advantages


[19-Dec-18 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Switzerland stopped selling them in 1515


[19-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, but you don't need a sustainable commodity


[19-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just need a while of having the cash to get the infrastructure to improve your economy


[19-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
from there, you can be better off, and overcome geographical issues to an extent


[19-Dec-18 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By the way, the MENA region's deserts also don't have much people in them, at least not permanently


[19-Dec-18 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, but they make it harder to get from place to place


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with the Alps in Switzerland


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need VERY good roads to get good transportation across a geographical obstacle


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
the reason why switzerland is doing so great now is because it wasn't damaged by WW1


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland has that


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
so it had all the infrastructure while everyone around it had no infrastructure


[19-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
so does Australia (altho really, they don't need it, they can just hav roads along the coast and be quite fine)


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
and it was able to basically take over banking in europe due to that


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, the issue is communication, not terrain?


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop being absolutist


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no magic ingredient you can add or remove that immediately destroys or fixes an economy


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, it's more likely that you're being the absolutist here


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is you hav poor countries


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
ravaged by war


[19-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
with terrible geography


[19-Dec-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
without the infrastructure to make that geography significantly less of a problem


[19-Dec-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
it all adds up.


[19-Dec-18 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what causes war in the first place, in this instance?


[19-Dec-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of things


[19-Dec-18 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could trace this shit bakk all the way to the Ottoman's if you really wanted to


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's not important what match lit the fire


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is the fire fuels itself thru various means


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It very much is important


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't, that original match is long gone


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At least to understand how these conflicts came to be in the first place


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
the flames are perpetuating themselves


[19-Dec-18 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removing the ashes of the match won't stop the fire.


[19-Dec-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the conflict came to be because of splits in the religion *centuries* ago.


[19-Dec-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the conflict came to be because of drought


[19-Dec-18 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the conflict came to be because of geography dividing groups, leading to them simply not getting along from being too different


[19-Dec-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the conflict is because people were too poor and unable to get richer and figured it was easier to shoot people up to get money.


[19-Dec-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That last one is a huge deal in Iraq and Afghanistan, terrorist organizations in both places basically operate by promising well-paying jobs where you shoot Americans and maybe blow yourself up.


[19-Dec-18 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to fix these problems


[19-Dec-18 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need infrastructure, you need money, you need cultural mixing, you need strong gov'ts free of corruption, and you need secure natural resources, among other things.


[19-Dec-18 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Infrastructure is just really nice because it eventually gets you money, secure natural resources, and cultural mixing.


[19-Dec-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that takes *decades*


[19-Dec-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
during which time, another invasion, another drought, another refugee crisis from one of those in a neighbor can stall your progress on infrastructure.


[19-Dec-18 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And progress will be slow to begin with building roads thru mountains and deserts.


[19-Dec-18 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and with jihadis wanting to shoot you all the while)


[19-Dec-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why the middle east is a vicious cycle of violence, and why ultimately, somebody needs to put a shitton of money and effort into it over a very long period of time to break the cycle.


[19-Dec-18 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will likely *not* improve in a reasonable timeframe if we just leave it alone.


[20-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics/us-syria-withdrawal/index.html

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Trump orders rapid withdrawal from Syria in apparent reversal
President Donald Trump has ordered staff to execute the "full" and "rapid" withdrawal of US military from Syria, declaring that the US has defeated ISIS.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181219091812-01-us-troops-syria-file-super-tease.jpg


[20-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
how much do you wanna bet russia strongarmed trump into doing this


[20-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
"I'm pretty annoyed," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and Trump ally, who told CNN's Manu Raju the President's decision was "Obama-like" -- a reference to President Barack Obama's decision to pull troops out of Iraq in 2011, which critics say gave rise to ISIS. Graham said the role of Congress is "to make administrations explain their policy, not in a tweet, but before Congress answering questions."


[20-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
you know trump supporters will somehow spin it in a positive light, despite it being practically the same thing that obama did


[20-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like those types of supporters will be a massive case study in cognitive bias 50 years from now


[20-Dec-18 12:42 AM] Nile#1441
Papa Assad please win 🇸🇾


[20-Dec-18 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah gas those civilians good &  hard

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[20-Dec-18 01:05 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPLrEAqgDc

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CBS Evening News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPLrEAqgDc
Retirement out of reach for millions of Americans
Tom Coomer, 80, is just one of nearly 10 million Americans over 65 still working. He was working as a machinist when his plant closed down, just one year shy...
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[20-Dec-18 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
r/nottheonion


[20-Dec-18 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-authorities-cover-snow-white-paint-hide-sings-pollution-63892

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Russian Authorities Cover Snow in White Paint to Hide Signs of Pol...
The head of the town said he had reprimanded those responsible and ordered the removal of the paint from the snow hill.
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[20-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[20-Dec-18 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🖌 ⛄


[20-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elon-musk-has-invented-the-world-1831210269

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Visionary Brain Genius Elon Musk Has Invented The World's Worst An...
If you are anything like me, many times you have been riding the subway and have had the thought, “What is wrong with this dang subway is that it is not exponentially more expensive and slower than this.” Many times you have seethed, through clenched teeth, “Goddammit, ...
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[20-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
why politics tho


[20-Dec-18 02:55 AM] moonatik#3676
>Tesla’s Elon Musk, definitely a visionary brain genius and not at all a manic idiot spaz and brazen fraud


[20-Dec-18 02:55 AM] moonatik#3676
I get the feeling whoever wrote this article doesn't like elon musk all that much


[20-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
I read a bit of it, it's a veritable salt mine


[20-Dec-18 02:55 AM] moonatik#3676
just a feeling


[20-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
"haha look at this crazy guy doing crazy things with a buttload of money"


[20-Dec-18 02:56 AM] moonatik#3676
@authorofthearticle pick something better to be outraged about


[20-Dec-18 02:57 AM] moonatik#3676
like me, I'm busy being outraged over that video I sent earlier


[20-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason they have a single car going through it atm is to show off the tunnel, not because they're actually done building it


[20-Dec-18 02:57 AM] moonatik#3676
I'm also being outraged over this shitty tweet with 30k likes https://twitter.com/Fo_Qalif/status/1074319147541192709

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https://twitter.com/Fo_Qalif/status/1074319147541192709
I will say it again. Y’all only care about the holocaust because the victims were white. https://t.co/tEUFevOhYZ
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[20-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
this is basically stage 1 of 2 or maybe 3


[20-Dec-18 02:58 AM] moonatik#3676
COME BE OUTRAGED WITH ME


[20-Dec-18 02:58 AM] moonatik#3676
***O U T R A G E***


[20-Dec-18 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.timesofisrael.com/feinstein-sanders-urge-senate-not-to-include-anti-bds-law-in-spending-bill/

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Feinstein, Sanders urge Senate not to include anti-BDS law in spen...
Jewish senators warn controversial anti-boycott act infringes upon freedom of speech; J Street, New Israel Fund back legislators
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[20-Dec-18 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The bill — called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act — would prohibit American companies from participating in Israel boycotts, including those promoted by international organizations like the United Nations


[20-Dec-18 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"pass our insane demands or we shut down the government"


[20-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Nile#1441
When the ally is so good that criticisng it will bring great harm to your business.


[20-Dec-18 04:21 AM] Arvid#8335
That lady looks like Ayn Rand


[20-Dec-18 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/422198-senate-approves-funding-bill-preventing-partial-government-shutdown

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Senate approves funding bill, preventing partial government shutdown
The Senate approved a seven-week funding bill on Wednesday, preventing a partial government shutdown that was expected to begin on Saturday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_inauguralfund_120718getty.jpg


[20-Dec-18 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the wall fiasco is over for now but now the republicans are trying to replace the wall thing with an isreal boycott prevention scheme


[20-Dec-18 07:14 AM] Honahue#0656
https://aje.io/m4thn

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Trump orders full withdrawal of US troops from Syria
Declaration of ISIL defeat in Syria and pulling out of troops angers top Republicans and surprises some foreign allies.
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[20-Dec-18 07:39 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/we-have-defeated-isis-us-to-withdraw-troops-from-syria
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https://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/1075489608958267392?s=19

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Trump declares victory over IS in Syria, orders US troops home
The US is withdrawing all its State Department personnel from Syria within 24 hours while it has begun drawing down its troops, officials say, raising alarm.
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Al Sura (@AlSuraEnglish)
https://twitter.com/AlSuraEnglish/status/1075489608958267392?s=19
#BREAKING - #US has given coordinates of all military sites in #Syria to #Turkey, asking for a 40 minute alert prior to an attack on #Kurdish #YPG forces in Northern Syria.
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[20-Dec-18 07:39 AM] ononim#8141
more about that


[20-Dec-18 07:40 AM] ononim#8141

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[20-Dec-18 07:41 AM] ononim#8141
Death to US


[20-Dec-18 07:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:WhatTheFuck:


[20-Dec-18 08:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Top Republicans pissed off that the US is finally leaving Syria? Not surprised


[20-Dec-18 08:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
these were the same people who thought the French were cowards back in 2003 when France refused to help them


[20-Dec-18 08:28 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and helped perpetuate the stereotype


[20-Dec-18 11:53 AM] moonatik#3676
can we have that france back pls


[20-Dec-18 11:54 AM] moonatik#3676
and can we have anti interventionists in the UK


[20-Dec-18 11:55 AM] moonatik#3676
when all the post 9/11 warmongering was in full swing the left wing labour party dominated parliament but the shitty "new labour" prime minister still took our country to war


[20-Dec-18 11:56 AM] moonatik#3676
only a quarter of labour MPs were like "hey wait maybe this whole invading Iraq thing isn't such a good idea" which is shameful to me


[20-Dec-18 12:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can we have Kurdish AntiFa[da] super soldiers absolutely destroy Turkish cockroach Erdogan and his cronies in great uprising for socialist libertarians everywhere?


[20-Dec-18 12:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/HYY4mzEb8ZY

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Chapo Trap House - NYC Transportation
Chapo demolish a dumb proposal for NYC transporation. Enjoy! Twitter: @realEliasKhoury Instagram: @eli_k_0418 Read my writing: intervero.org chapo, el chapo,...
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[20-Dec-18 12:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also related to Musky Husky tunnel.


[20-Dec-18 12:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just build a subway system you fuck.


[20-Dec-18 12:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Subway is for peasants


[20-Dec-18 12:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Elite drives in tunnels on their own teslas


[20-Dec-18 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/trump-s-withdrawal-syria-victory-iran-russia-experts-say-n950111

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Trump's withdrawal from Syria is victory for Iran, Russia, experts say
Analysis: The move provides "Iran with solid control over the entire arc of the Levant from Baghdad to Beirut," one expert said.
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[20-Dec-18 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
the US is selling missiles to turkey for $3.5 billion dollars


[20-Dec-18 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
they're then pulling out of syria


[20-Dec-18 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
and on top of that, the US is providing kurdish strategic locations to turkey


[20-Dec-18 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
HMMMMMMMM I WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN


[20-Dec-18 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
US missiles being used to bomb our allies in the area sounds too obvious


[20-Dec-18 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
and it's because the orange fuck is compromised by russia


[20-Dec-18 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
They sold some rockets to Turkey recently to, afaik


[20-Dec-18 01:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Dec-18 01:12 PM] Crow#5457
I said that lol


[20-Dec-18 01:12 PM] Crow#5457
>the US is selling missiles to turkey for $3.5 billion dollars


[20-Dec-18 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inghimasi

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[20-Dec-18 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gofundme-campaign-to-pay-for-the-border-wall-has-raised-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars-2018-12

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A GoFundMe campaign is raising funds to pay for the border wall ...
A GoFundMe campaign launched by a veteran has raised more than $1 million to pay for a border wall.
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[20-Dec-18 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like a scam


[20-Dec-18 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it liekly is


[20-Dec-18 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-threatens-to-veto-infrastructure-other-democratic-bills-without-wall-funding

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Trump threatens to veto infrastructure, other Democratic bills wit...
President Trump on Thursday threatened to veto Democratic bills, including an infrastructure bill, until Congress approves legislation to expand the southern U.S. border wall.
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[20-Dec-18 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fox-news-host-urges-trump-to-veto-crap-bill-with-no-wall-funding

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Fox News host urges Trump to veto 'crap' bill with no wall funding
Fox News host Pete Hegseth on Thursday called on President Trump to reject a government spending bill that doesn't include any money for his border wall.
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[20-Dec-18 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the hill trump is willing to die on apparently


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] moonatik#3676
the wall was half the campaign to be fair


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] moonatik#3676
not having a wall by 2020 would hurt his standing among the base


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
^^


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] moonatik#3676
but let's be honest, his base will never abandon him


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point


[20-Dec-18 02:44 PM] moonatik#3676
if he can't build a wall he could at least find a way to shift the blame


[20-Dec-18 03:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What if they will dig under that wall or fly over it?


[20-Dec-18 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there will be thousands of ways around the wall


[20-Dec-18 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the wall is basically a project that would never be completed and then eat resources to keep up maintenence


[20-Dec-18 03:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They should have thought of the sphere then.


[20-Dec-18 03:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The wall might also be hot vandalism spot number one if it gets erected


[20-Dec-18 03:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Adding up to the maintenance costs


[20-Dec-18 03:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It reminds me of that australian rabbit wall project
@prism stryder(intexda)


[20-Dec-18 03:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Practice showed also that using bioweapons were much more effective against them :twismug:


[20-Dec-18 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just offer them pox coated blankets as thye cross the border


[20-Dec-18 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it shoudl sort itself out


[20-Dec-18 06:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/18/judge-rotenberg-center-electric-shocks-ban-inter-american-commission-human-rights

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Inter-American Commission on Human Rights issued a notice to the Judge Rotenberg Center to immediately stop the shocks
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[20-Dec-18 06:20 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Dec-18 06:20 PM] ononim#8141
@America


[20-Dec-18 06:20 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Yuri#4154
...


[20-Dec-18 07:35 PM] Yuri#4154
Wat


[20-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-government-shutdown-veto-bill-mexico-border-wall-2018-12

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Trump is abruptly threatening to veto the spending bill and force ...
There is growing concern that President Donald Trump could veto the short-term funding bill, forcing the government into a partial shutdown on Friday.
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[20-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is literally acting like a whiny piss baby


[20-Dec-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[20-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
"wahh I'm not getting my way so I'll do this!"


[20-Dec-18 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the child raised to win at all cost is flipping the table because he isnt winning. This is a shocking development i never saw coming


[20-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Mmmmhm


[20-Dec-18 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thinkt he worst part is that he succesfully managed to breed


[20-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[20-Dec-18 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m half surprised he hasnt threatened to shut down congreess and the hosue yet but he likely knows everyone would call that bluff since he doesnt have that kind of power


[20-Dec-18 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless he did and i missed it


[20-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Mikey#7286
No, I don't think he can


[20-Dec-18 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but does he knwo he cant?


[20-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't know


[20-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans always do this tho


[20-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
to them, shutting down the gov't is RESPONSIBULLLLLL


[20-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho like


[20-Dec-18 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it costs more


[20-Dec-18 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
because employees get paid anyways and they hav to be paid extra for it


[20-Dec-18 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimate question


[20-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is the value in not being able to indict a sitting president


[20-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why does the DOJ have that rule


[20-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Come to think of it, why does the president have so much immunity from suit while in office?


[20-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only immunity they should have should be like, protection from butthurt former staffers


[20-Dec-18 09:38 PM] Nile#1441
World leaders generally have such immunities.


[20-Dec-18 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To this extent?


[20-Dec-18 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any argument I've seen for it is "can't be distracted by lawsuits" but come on now


[20-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that while we're busy indicting him, Russia could go to war with Iraq and we'd be unable to do anything.


[20-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too many eggs in one basket.


[20-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a fundamental structural issue where congress is supposed to go to war but never does


[20-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the senate is always too divided


[20-Dec-18 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
so we've put all the war powers pretty much on the president.


[20-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mattis resigned


[21-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
F to pay respects to sanity


[21-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mattis/pentagon-chief-mattis-quits-citing-policy-differences-with-trump-idUSKCN1OJ2WR

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Pentagon chief Mattis quits, citing policy differences with Trump
U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general who was known ...
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[21-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
he was the last steady, sane person there


[21-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
I bet he's angry about trump pulling out of syria


[21-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More about NATO disrespect


[21-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Litrojia#0612
The high turnover of top officials says something about Trump


[21-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
highest since carter apparently


[21-Dec-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Mad Dog Mattis


[21-Dec-18 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
>last steady, sane person


[21-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
sanest? he hated that nickname


[21-Dec-18 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
he preferred his callsign


[21-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Great more for Trump to surround himself with yes-men


[21-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
And give the finger to our allies


[21-Dec-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even thne his yes-men will probably be thrown out in half a year due to minor disagreements and general human sheilding


[21-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[21-Dec-18 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of surprised sanders has lasted as long as she has


[21-Dec-18 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again seeing her face she may have had soem form of mental breakdown


[21-Dec-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-moves-impose-stricter-work-requirements-food-staps-n950271

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Trump administration moves to impose stricter work requirements fo...
Democrats blasted the plan as executive overreach, saying that any changes to the SNAP program need to go through Congress.
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[21-Dec-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
food stamps already require you work at least 14 hours a week. people are havign trouble evne finding that amount of work


[21-Dec-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Under federal law, able-bodied adults without dependents are restricted to three months of benefits within a 36-month period unless they work at least 80 hours per month or participate in certain educational or job-training activities. But current USDA regulations allow for states to waive an existing work requirement if the area's unemployment rate is 20 percent higher than the national rate. The new rule allows for states to only waive that requirement in areas where the unemployment rate is above 7 percent — nearly double the current national unemployment rate.


[21-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you work 10 hours a week, you're fukked


[21-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you work 20 hours a week, you get some food stamps


[21-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it goes to the people who need it less


[21-Dec-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently he wanted this measure int he FARM bill but congress said no, so he;ls forcing it through an executive order


[21-Dec-18 03:34 AM] ononim#8141
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[21-Dec-18 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181218-texas-teacher-fired-for-refusing-to-sign-anti-bds-oath/

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[21-Dec-18 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/aclu-muslim-group-file-challenges-to-texas-state-anti-bds-law/2018/12/20/

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ACLU, Muslim Group File Challenges to Texas Anti-BDS Law
"Texas stands with Israel. Period."
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[21-Dec-18 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*“House Bill 89 amends the Government Code to prohibit a state agency or political subdivision from entering into a contract with a company for goods or services unless the contract contains a written verification from the company that it does not boycott Israel and will not boycott Israel during the term of the contract. The bill requires the comptroller of public accounts to prepare, maintain, and provide to the permanent school fund and certain retirement systems a list of all companies that boycott Israel. The bill provides for the divestment of certain assets the permanent school fund or any such retirement system holds in a listed company that does not cease boycotting Israel within a specified timeframe, exempts certain investments from divestment under specified conditions, prohibits the fund or an applicable retirement system from acquiring securities of a listed company, and establishes certain reporting requirements for the fund and systems. The bill authorizes the attorney general to bring any action necessary to enforce the prohibition on investment in companies that boycott Israel.”*


[21-Dec-18 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Watching the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon on break at work, and they're all right: all these late night goons can do on repeat the headlines and hope it passes as a joke. It is normalizing; don't worry everyone, it's all a funny.


[21-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
Basically, modem feminism is shitty and the sjws use the lqbt community’s advantage to make fake genders


[21-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
There are only 2 but trans and non binary counts in the gender bianary


[21-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Which culture has 2 genders? Because native Hawaiians had 3 so did a few other Native American tribes, a couple of ancient Mediterranean also some have 4


[21-Dec-18 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Do you mean the XX XY chromosomes? Cause there's also X, XXY, XYY and a few other that occur and also various levels of androgen sensitivity


[21-Dec-18 08:27 AM] Nile#1441
tbh all feminism is gay @Wonder Schwifty


[21-Dec-18 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Or there's the weirdness that led to the drug finasteride where children are born female appearing bit then hit puberty and suddenly become men because of 5α reductase


[21-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
I know that feminism today is gay


[21-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
third wave feminism


[21-Dec-18 08:30 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The thing many people forgot about feminism is that it's about gender *parity* not *superiority*


[21-Dec-18 08:30 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I think


[21-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah, feminists today aren't real feminists


[21-Dec-18 08:32 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US is sure drunk on supporting Israel to unreasonable levels tho


[21-Dec-18 08:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
You must be thinking of the Tumblr types.


[21-Dec-18 08:32 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
just as my country seems drunk on hating Israel to unreasonable levels


[21-Dec-18 08:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because past I checked the more level headed third wave types aren't into the superiority angle.


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm saying *many* not *all* people


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything, the most extreme case is the abolition of biological sex via science, as in Firestone.


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Many is still an over estimate.


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
It's not even many though it's a loud minority


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I do not disagree that there are more moderate people out there


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cure yourself of the GamerGate bug


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Loud minorities suck


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
True


[21-Dec-18 08:33 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Ideology notwithstanding


[21-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
But moderate types don't bitch as much


[21-Dec-18 08:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
This is the problem with dealing with these loud minorities


[21-Dec-18 08:34 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
they are much more wiling to cross the line than the moderate


[21-Dec-18 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Though the squeaky wheel gets the grease


[21-Dec-18 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
So if any lesson is to be learned moderates should bitxh more


[21-Dec-18 08:36 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Moderates not bitching enough is why Jakarta lost a good governor and got replaced by a shitty one


[21-Dec-18 08:36 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
At least in my opinion


[21-Dec-18 08:37 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Not only that, said good governor was jailed for blasphemy


[21-Dec-18 08:37 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
one of the silliest laws I've ever come across


[21-Dec-18 08:37 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
The moment he was convicted, I declared a personal war against these extremists and ensured myself that I will sink to *any* level to see them gone


[21-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm an athiest blasphemy laws aren't just silly to me they're stupid


[21-Dec-18 08:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well in terms of feminism or some other race-based program in the moderate strain will probably just mean the implementation of the Neoliberal interpretation of the platform, where in the representation of the upper class should reflect that of the entire population, so there needs to be roughly equal number of women or people of color as CEOs and in government as there are those in that position. There overlooking more developed and nuanced feminist or race-based-programs that would help in radically changing the fundamental structure. You can't fret over black, Asian, Mexican, trans, or women CEOs if the entire notion of the CEO was abolished and all shared in partnership of an enterprise, owning the entirety of their labor.


[21-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah there's a whole stucturale problem, I wonder how those ancient societies delt with gender non comforting long before hormone therapy, was there less dismorphia because society didn't care?


[21-Dec-18 08:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'd say this governor's case is why I have largely grown angry with religion


[21-Dec-18 08:42 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They did nothing to stop themselves and their ideology to be used as weapons, while the ones using religion as a weapon inflicted what could possibly be permanent damage


[21-Dec-18 08:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Unless you were the Greeks or the Chinese, they probably didn't care or made provisions for their existence like the Hawaiians, those southern Mexican groups, or even Sycthians. It's something that could be argued that the physical and material basis for the society in question permitted more open expressions of gender or lack there-of. Like in Scythian life everyone rode a horse and learned to use a bow so the functional differences between men and women were moot; their priests/shamans also drank pregnant mare piss to take in feminine hormones as part of their role.


[21-Dec-18 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but its a whole weird thing now a days people make light of Mediterranean woman and their hairy arms and side burns and stuff or Frida and her unibrow, bit all these things existed long before we had any way of changing them beside razors for hair and women never start shaving till the 20th century anyway


[21-Dec-18 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/google-china-censored-search-engine-2/

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Google’s Secret China Project “Effectively Ended” After Inte...
Google reassigned several groups of engineers away from a planned censored search engine after a rift over its use of real internet queries in China for testing.
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[21-Dec-18 08:51 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a whole ontology of what is a woman or a man anyway


[21-Dec-18 08:51 AM] Honahue#0656
That's why a spectrum is better than a binary


[21-Dec-18 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
>but the poles 
Seriously who is actually a pole end of gender?


[21-Dec-18 09:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... this was posted yesterday

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[21-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[21-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[21-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Mikey#7286
she deleted it


[21-Dec-18 02:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Honahue @AaronMk i love how everyone just disappears when there's a level headed discussion around these parts, lol


[21-Dec-18 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Wonder Schwifty btw, schwifty, you don't have to assume that every feminist or even third wave feminist you encounter is gonna be a loudmouth


[21-Dec-18 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or like Big Red


[21-Dec-18 02:23 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
not all are like that


[21-Dec-18 02:23 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
but some


[21-Dec-18 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only some very few


[21-Dec-18 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These are not enough to be considered as a structural problem


[21-Dec-18 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What you should instead do is, imo, *read some books*


[21-Dec-18 02:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Angela Davis and Judith Butler are good places to start, and they'll break the GamerGate era notion of feminism quite quickly, i think


[21-Dec-18 02:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Wonder Schwifty okay?


[21-Dec-18 02:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The problem with loudmouth extreme types is that they are the ones getting peoples attention and making the news. This creates the image that the rest are like that.


[21-Dec-18 02:27 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
mh


[21-Dec-18 02:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@PwnyPony then the problem is the people who are watching and the media, not the movement itself


[21-Dec-18 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/us/politics/trump-shutdown-border-wall.html

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Trump Threatens a Shutdown That Will ‘Last for a Very Long Time’
President Trump sought to blame the Democrats for a potential funding lapse that he said last week he would proudly own.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/22/us/politics/22dc-cong1/22dc-cong1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Dec-18 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is basically making most of his moves now


[21-Dec-18 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shuttign the government down, giving the kurds to turkey, lifting the russian sanctions, imposing stricter food stamp policy


[21-Dec-18 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
breaking promises like usual


[21-Dec-18 04:36 PM] RYDE#8862
Trump's a manbaby for all I care. I want Princess Celestia or Luna or Twilight Sparkle as our presidernt. A REAL President who cares for their citizens.


[21-Dec-18 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are a monarchy,


[21-Dec-18 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were not elected they were born into princesshood


[21-Dec-18 04:41 PM] RYDE#8862
Monarchy from Equestria is better than this Presidency any day.


[21-Dec-18 04:42 PM] Nile#1441
👀


[21-Dec-18 05:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but as far a "divine right of kings" raising the sun and moon are pretty good arguments for it


[21-Dec-18 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true though i'm not sure how that woudl work in our world where the sun and moon do their ownt hings


[21-Dec-18 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076132028888825857

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076132028888825857
The Democrats now own the shutdown!
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[21-Dec-18 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock he welched on owning the shut down


[21-Dec-18 06:18 PM] ononim#8141
tbh both sisters having at the very least minimum amount of decency and "not being plain evil" helps too


[21-Dec-18 06:19 PM] ononim#8141
I mean there's a chance of them going full Evil Goth/Punk Counterpart but hey, that's is easily sovlable by Friendship and Rainbows


[21-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Nile#1441
Celestia is a good example of a benevolent dictator 😍

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[21-Dec-18 06:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nothing a smack with Gay Rainbow can't solve.


[21-Dec-18 06:23 PM] Nile#1441
Or I guess since she's a princess, an example of enlightened absolutism. :ponythinking:


[21-Dec-18 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think celestia really counts as a dictator


[21-Dec-18 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are royalty automatically dictators? i'm not sure


[21-Dec-18 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess so


[21-Dec-18 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though she didnt obtain this power by force so i'm unsure if that's a requirment for beign a dictator


[21-Dec-18 06:32 PM] Nile#1441
I say dictator since she seems to be pretty powerful.


[21-Dec-18 06:33 PM] Nile#1441
And no, royalty are not dictators by default. They can become so, but they aren't by default.


[21-Dec-18 06:39 PM] RYDE#8862
At least Celestia and Luna are not a dictator like Sombra


[21-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cbd-and-hemp-are-now-legal-in-the-us-so-what-does-that-mean-for-pot-companies-2018-12-20

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CBD and hemp are now legal in the U.S., so what does that mean for...
Industrial hemp is now legal in the U.S., which could loosen laws around the popular marijuana extract CBD.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-HA201_Hemp_2_ZG_20181212143235.jpg


[21-Dec-18 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;lm wonderign if this will lead to any form of paper reform


[21-Dec-18 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec2ed217357048ff998225a31534df12?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP

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Trump call with Turkish leader led to US pullout from Syria
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw American troops from Syria was made hastily, without consulting his national security team or allies, and over strong objections from virtually everyone involved in the fight against the Islamic State group, ac...
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[21-Dec-18 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
will hemp paper plants start popping up or is this only legalized for the drug use?


[21-Dec-18 07:22 PM] Honahue#0656
It's industrial hemp so ropes and paper and whatever else


[21-Dec-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awesome


[21-Dec-18 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really understand the economic advatage of tree made paper sicne trees take decades to grow before you cna harvest them and are onyl renewable if you bother to replant them


[21-Dec-18 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hemp grows insanely fast, is very renewable, and is probably far fuckign cheaper


[21-Dec-18 07:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Maybe it'll finally lead to legalization of cannabis


[21-Dec-18 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck if we do hemp paper it means we cna keep doing print books without damaging forests


[21-Dec-18 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wont smell the same but still


[21-Dec-18 07:26 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[21-Dec-18 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously lobbyists are fucking dumb


[21-Dec-18 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[21-Dec-18 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
It wouldn't be an issue in the first place though if it wasn't for the blatant racism of Harry Anslinger


[21-Dec-18 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck that guy too


[21-Dec-18 07:48 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Sombra is much more fitting as a dictatorial figure than either of the royal sisters IMO


[21-Dec-18 08:01 PM] Honahue#0656
Dictators have absolute control and as Celestia didn't have control of the schools accreditation agency she apparently let's some aspects of government out of her power


[21-Dec-18 08:03 PM] Yuri#4154
Tbh she probably could tell Neighsay to fuck off but she just chooses not to


[21-Dec-18 08:04 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I'm quite sure some bronies wish their president was her and not Trump tho 🤣


[21-Dec-18 08:05 PM] Yuri#4154
And they kinda do tell Neighsay to fuck off at the end of the premiere


[21-Dec-18 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kidna wish i coudl jsut skip to the land of ooo\


[21-Dec-18 10:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Her8V55P0

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The Ethics of False Reality
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[21-Dec-18 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46652345

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg has cancer surgery
The 85-year-old liberal US Supreme Court judge had two malignant nodules successfully removed.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/15A37/production/_104913688_051285475.jpg


[21-Dec-18 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good on her


[21-Dec-18 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-gloats-over-departure-trump-is-ours-again

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Russia Gloats: ‘Trump Is Ours Again’
If Moscow was happy about the Syria pullout, it’s ecstatic about Defense Secretary Jim Mattis’ resignation.
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[21-Dec-18 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/x2W7P3wGBI8

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[21-Dec-18 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
Hoo boy I feel someone her e will very thrilled with this video :twismug:


[21-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Nile#1441
:trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust:


[21-Dec-18 10:55 PM] Yuri#4154
Angery Nile


[21-Dec-18 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
[Hovers hand over the "delet all royalty button"]


[21-Dec-18 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
[Le Smiling Paine man]


[21-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Nile#1441
Gross


[21-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tourism, that's why


[21-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They know they're Parliament's bitch


[21-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
france has much more tourism to their royalty stuff


[21-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
and they don't even have royalty anymore


[21-Dec-18 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
V E R S A I L L E S     M A K E S    T H E    D O S H


[21-Dec-18 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Versailles is a money machine.


[21-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that France doesn't have a king now because he was butthurt about the _tricolore_


[21-Dec-18 11:39 PM] Nile#1441
To be fair, the tricolor is kinda gay


[21-Dec-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was like in the 1870s and he wouldn't become king unless they brought back the Fleur dis lis flag


[21-Dec-18 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was even a compromise of a fleur dis lis on a tricolor


[21-Dec-18 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Americans visit the UK en'masse because we're too lazy to learn any other language.


[21-Dec-18 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the French don't like to go anywhere else because they believe they got everything already.


[21-Dec-18 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think French law also has tips required on bills, which is why the French don't tip, they're not used to consciously tipping.


[21-Dec-18 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The virgin French tricolor vs. THE CHAD CHINESE FIVE RACES UNION FLAG

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[21-Dec-18 11:42 PM] Nile#1441
Ew


[21-Dec-18 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't you dare "ew" my Chinese republicanism you dummy


[21-Dec-18 11:42 PM] Nile#1441
The Chinese never had good flags in the past but yuck


[21-Dec-18 11:42 PM] Nile#1441
That flag


[21-Dec-18 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Never had good flags"


[21-Dec-18 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Forgetting about the Fengtian Clique


[21-Dec-18 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[21-Dec-18 11:43 PM] Nile#1441
You must be kidding


[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, right, because literally all good flags in the world must have an impossible-to-draw coat of arms in the middle for no reason.


[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Not glorious Ukrainian Free State flag.

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[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk D E A T H


[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] Nile#1441
I'm not saying that, but in no way is a flag like that aesthetic


[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ni🅱️🅱️a


[21-Dec-18 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It finna is


[21-Dec-18 11:45 PM] Nile#1441
It's ***gay***


[21-Dec-18 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Striped diamonds are pretty damn cool


[21-Dec-18 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyone who thinks otherwise should be executed


[21-Dec-18 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Socialism with Redanian Characteristics to be acted upon all who don't like stripped diamonds.

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[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Nile#1441
Crowned bird with a hammer and sickle :ponythinking:


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Nile#1441
Something doesn't add up


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Honahue#0656
Monarchal Socialism


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
NAZBOL MONARCHISM


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Nile#1441
It's the epitome of Monbol memes


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
The People as King in their own rite.


[21-Dec-18 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[21-Dec-18 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
Isn't that why Sikh are almost all named Singh?


[21-Dec-18 11:49 PM] Nile#1441
wtf


[21-Dec-18 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1789031


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[21-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Honahue#0656
Women get the last name Kaur they mean Lion and Princess to weaken the power of the caste system


[21-Dec-18 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
pretty much every sikh man has the last name singh, and women have the last name kaur


[21-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[21-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Nile#1441
I know a Kaur


[21-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Nile#1441
Sikhs are everywhere here


[21-Dec-18 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46637638

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Trump vows 'very long' shutdown over wall
The US government will begin a partial shutdown on Friday at midnight if no budget deal is reached.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06w7fsf.jpg


[21-Dec-18 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's literally mentally 12


[21-Dec-18 11:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[21-Dec-18 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So are most Americans


[21-Dec-18 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah but they aren't in the highest office in the country


[21-Dec-18 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have any of you ever dealt with people who just refuse to live in reality


[21-Dec-18 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
And I doubt most are as blatantly childish as Trump


[21-Dec-18 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[21-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They just make shit up and genuinely believe it's true because they want it to be


[21-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And think they can trick people


[21-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
actually, usually they have other people make it up for them


[21-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
like rush limbaugh


[21-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
or mark levin


[22-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
there's a whole market out there for making up bullshit to feed americans while sounding logical and coherent


[22-Dec-18 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
when even the smallest amount of fact checking mixed with a bit of critical thinking would show that the majority of what they say doesn't make very much sense


[22-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever play the new Spider-Man game


[22-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
oftentimes, they use a lot of real stuff to come to a completely insane conclusion if viewed in context, but makes perfect sense when framed in a very specific way and isn't checked from another angle


[22-Dec-18 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JJJ is a conspiracy theory talk show host that does nothing but complain about Spider-Man


[22-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't played it


[22-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
haven't played any video game in months


[22-Dec-18 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
haven't bought a new video game in years


[22-Dec-18 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
@Nile french tricolour rules shush🔫


[22-Dec-18 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
Also while on topic of tricolours, so does pan-slavic tricolours


[22-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Pan-Slavism


[22-Dec-18 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop trying to start a world war


[22-Dec-18 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LET`S ALL SAY BLYAT TOGETHER COMRADES


[22-Dec-18 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't a pan-Slavic flag just be the Adidas logo


[22-Dec-18 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
🇷🇺 🇸🇮 🇸🇰 🇨🇿


[22-Dec-18 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Het


[22-Dec-18 12:08 AM] ononim#8141
also for some reason I can't find serbian flag emoji


[22-Dec-18 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
pet the het


[22-Dec-18 12:08 AM] ononim#8141
🇷🇸


[22-Dec-18 12:08 AM] ononim#8141
here it is


[22-Dec-18 12:08 AM] ononim#8141
republic serbia I guess


[22-Dec-18 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Revive the old Democratic Cossack tradition, de-cucking it from the imperial, pseudo-fascist, religious para-military order and make the Pan-Slavic union a grand democratic hetmanate order.


[22-Dec-18 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
words


[22-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Nile#1441
Cringe


[22-Dec-18 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn you Vicky for giving the Romanovs hemophilia


[22-Dec-18 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgiO3XyFt0k

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Tersky Cossack Choir - Oysya, you oysya (russian cossack folk song)
Lyrics: The Prayer of a Cossack In the moutain a Cossack stood. He prayed to God, For the freedom, for the nation, bowed very low. Oysya, you oysya, don't fe...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WgiO3XyFt0k/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Dec-18 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.gofundme.com/ladders-to-get-over-trump039s-wall

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Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized b...
We saw some folks are raising money for a border wall to keep out our migrant siblings and fellow human beings, who are fleeing violence and persecution and whose tragically-underpaid labor is essential to the U.S. economy. Seems like a bad idea on countless levels for everyo...
https://d2g8igdw686xgo.cloudfront.net/35478070_1545280548192833_r.jpeg


[22-Dec-18 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is many things wrong with this. Can I get an F for capitalist optimism?

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[22-Dec-18 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what 25 year old is dining out that much?


[22-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, $825 a month rent


[22-Dec-18 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
I pay that much and live in a trailer.


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
what backwards hillbilly place is he living to find rent that low?


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Glad to know I'll still be here when I make 100k


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is rentign a hosue cleaner?


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
>house cleaner


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who affords house cleaners these days?


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>house cleaner for thirty dollars


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
>INTERNET


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
$20 a month for internet?


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bullshit


[22-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck?


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Glad to know the Mexicans are stealing those jobs well amirite


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tack on so many fees for internet


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
rofl, $615 in donations


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have only ever donated $60


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
donations + rent wouldn't even cover a month of rent in even a shitty city in the US


[22-Dec-18 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that eprson is clearly living in their car


[22-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-trump-s-asylum-ban-5-4-ruling-n951051

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Supreme Court rejects Trump's asylum ban in 5-4 ruling as Chief Ju...
The decision leaves in place a lower court ruling that blocked the president's proclamation.
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[22-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
The Supreme Court on Friday refused to allow the government to enforce President Donald Trump's ban on asylum for immigrants who attempt to cross the southern border illegally.


[22-Dec-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if trump tries to executive order the supreme court into obeying him onyl to get it slapped in his face that he cant legally do that


[22-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's political personality is more fit to be like that of an 18th century European absolute monarch tbqh


[22-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lots of coercion, lots of decrees, lots of attempts to circumvent the checks and balances...


[22-Dec-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he certainly wants to be one


[22-Dec-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/nation/2018/12/22/congress-works-avoid-possible-government-shutdown/2393241002/

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Congress works to avoid possible government shutdown
Congress works to avoid a government shutdown by trying to pass a funding bill that President Trump will sign.
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[22-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
what


[22-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
do they seriously think he'll sign anything less than exactly what he wants?


[22-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
he doesn't compromise


[22-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
and what he wants is bad for the US as a whole


[22-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1076173906455810050

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The budget breakdown of a 25-year-old who makes $100,000 a year and is excellent with money. via @CNBCMakeIt https://t.co/GLRCp1rfey
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[22-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
lmao that reply


[22-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
>He’s has four roommates and is on his parents’ cell phone plan, according to the article.


[22-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[22-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
who the hell would have 4 roommates while making $100k a year?


[22-Dec-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soemone who lives in detroit?


[22-Dec-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Plot twist: the roommates are actually robots


[22-Dec-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Beep boop


[22-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
so uh, I read the article a bit


[22-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
"More than three years later, his monthly income ranges from between $3,000 and $4,000 up to $14,000 during busy periods. He charges $160 per hour for GMAT tutoring and $125 per hour for LSAT or GRE help, and he requires a minimum of 10 hours. He’s also started consulting for other tutors on the side, for which he charges a flat fee or a percentage of revenue generated."


[22-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
it basically sounds like he's scamming people lol


[22-Dec-18 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's so awfully specific and statistically inaccurate


[22-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
He owes much of his success to his own hustle. “You can get more money a lot of the time if you ask for it,” he says. “There are other GMAT or GRE tutors who charge probably like a tenth of what I charge, or at the very least, half of what I charge. I just charged more and now I make more money.”


[22-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
so yeah, he's scamming people


[22-Dec-18 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wee woo wee woo 🚓


[22-Dec-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"take inspiration from this hip young scammer we found!"


[22-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/12/21/politics/supreme-court-upholds-block-on-trumps-asylum-ban/index.html

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Supreme Court upholds block on Trump's asylum ban
The Supreme Court on Friday upheld a federal judge's order blocking the Trump administration's new asylum restrictions.
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[22-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
I just linked that lol


[22-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
I didn't see


[22-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-Dec-18 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing trumpt his shut down coudl last till atleast february if he feels pissy diaper baby enough


[22-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/21/he-just-refounded-isis-fox-news-bucks-trump-again-trump-is-listening-again/


[22-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Crow#5457

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[22-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[22-Dec-18 02:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P26iV7Y1jpY

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The Left's War on Christmas
Support Zero Books on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zerobooks Subscribe: http://bit.ly/SubZeroBooks Many on the right are worried that there is a war on C...
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[22-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
are ponies killing hay bales? more at 11


[22-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
>Are commies killing Christmas


[22-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
yes


[22-Dec-18 03:01 AM] ononim#8141

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[22-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
the ponies should pony the ponies


[22-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Mikey#7286
Pagans should take back Christmas tbh


[22-Dec-18 03:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://thehorse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/horses-eating-round-bale-in-snow-1280x640.jpg evidence of ponies killing hay bales.

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[22-Dec-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Petition to rename Santa Claus/Saint Nicholas to be Citizen Claus/Nicholas.


[22-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
the romans should take back saturnalia tbh


[22-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Mikey#7286
This tbh


[22-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

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Saturnalia
Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the god Saturn, held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public b...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Saturnalia_by_Antoine_Callet.jpg/1200px-Saturnalia_by_Antoine_Callet.jpg


[22-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Christians are theives


[22-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sciencealert.com/china-and-russia-conducted-controversial-experiments-that-modified-earth-s-atmosphere

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China And Russia Have Run Controversial Experiments That Modified ...
China and Russia have jointly conducted a controversial series of experiments to modify Earth's atmosphere with high-frequency radio waves.
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[22-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Mikey#7286
Also


[22-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Mikey#7286
Jesus wasn't even born on December 25th


[22-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
china and russia are running experiment causing large-scale disruptions of earth's atmosphere


[22-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
yaaaaaaaay


[22-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was ironically probably born closer to Easter than anything


[22-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[22-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Mikey#7286
Actually


[22-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Mikey#7286
I heard he was born in July


[22-Dec-18 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
We don't really have much non-biblical information about him


[22-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Historians know he existed


[22-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
apparently celebration of his birth was moved to december because there wasn't anything to do during winter


[22-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I remember reading that a few years ago


[22-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
best time to celebrate is when there's no work to be done


[22-Dec-18 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also fucking cold in the winter and seasonal affective disorder is real


[22-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nile#1441
The birthday of our gracious King 🙏

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[22-Dec-18 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it'snice to knwo russia and chian want to speed climate change up. or kills us all in a planet wide suicide bomb


[22-Dec-18 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's not known how much of an effect the ionosphere has on climate


[22-Dec-18 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
which is why they're controversial, not actively destructive


[22-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
More then likely it was because the Romans already had a celebration around this time Saturnalia and when they switched to Christianity it they didn't want to change their holidays around. Easier for everyone to get along with the new rules when they aren't that different from the old ones


[22-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), also, pretty much all of our long range communications takes place in the ionosphere, and that also heats it


[22-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
but as far as we have been able to tell, the ionosphere has no effect on climate


[22-Dec-18 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[22-Dec-18 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe they're looking to mess with satelites then


[22-Dec-18 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Legalize theft. https://youtu.be/fBNJfDINVSw

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[22-Dec-18 04:09 AM] Nile#1441
I'll have a baseball bat ready in that instance


[22-Dec-18 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one's interested in what you have, only what The Company does.


[22-Dec-18 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Mikey#7286
@Nile lol no it's not


[22-Dec-18 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his follow up tweet... it;s real

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[22-Dec-18 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a steel rod fence you dingle


[22-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
if we knew the size of that car, we could probably figure out how tall those spikes are


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
toy car?


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
and if we can figure that out, we can figure out how much it would cost to make them


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
metal tooth picks


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
also those slats wouldn't stop a person from slipping through


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
they're too big


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
the space between them is too wide


[22-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
it might stop the average american, but not starved refugees


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[22-Dec-18 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll probably be on his flight tomorrow


[22-Dec-18 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who brags that they;re ddoing their fuckign job?


[22-Dec-18 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
that's a shitload of steel btw


[22-Dec-18 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes it is


[22-Dec-18 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be so much more effective to just make a taller than usual chain link fence


[22-Dec-18 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how he;s going to pay for that shit ton of steel that likely has tarrifs all over it


[22-Dec-18 05:10 AM] Nile#1441
@Mikey What’s not?


[22-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Jesus birthday is not December 25th


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
He never even practiced Christmas in his teachings


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s sometime in august or september


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Nile#1441
Yes it is shut up :trixdisgust: 🖕


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Or endorsed it


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also him practicing christmas would be narcissistic


[22-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Catholics are why it is the way it is


[22-Dec-18 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
celebratign your birthday is oen thing treating it liek a religiosu event is narcisistic as fuck


[22-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Nile#1441
Gadolig


[22-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure jesus would hate catholicism


[22-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's too much like how the jews were in jesus's time period


[22-Dec-18 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus died to get rid of original sin and the old testament laws


[22-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Nile#1441
Based Orthodoxy is Jesus’ true home pls pray 🙏 ☦


[22-Dec-18 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
If I was raised more religiously I'd probably be a devout Catholic :twismug:


[22-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Nile#1441
Ew


[22-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
But I wasn't and God isn't real


[22-Dec-18 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
:Cakelestia:


[22-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Nile#1441
Better you’re an atheist than another Catholic


[22-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-Dec-18 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wasnt raised religious but i had religion shoved in my face by everyone who wasnt my parents


[22-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
I didn't, and I went to church for a few years


[22-Dec-18 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
I also had first communion


[22-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
And then my mom stopped caring about it


[22-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Nile#1441
Catholicism after 1965 is a meme


[22-Dec-18 05:25 AM] Mikey#7286
I've never done extensive research on any religion so I'm not really familiar with why there are different denominations of Christianity


[22-Dec-18 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets annoying afterawhile


[22-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Nile#1441
The 1054 Catholic-Orthodox schism is a mix of theology and politics


[22-Dec-18 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[22-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nile#1441
Protestant Reformation was because of things I’m not fully sure of


[22-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
What's your opinion of people like Harold Camping?


[22-Dec-18 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
king james jsut made shit mroe confusing


[22-Dec-18 05:28 AM] Nile#1441
Who is he again


[22-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
He predicted the rapture like


[22-Dec-18 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
5 times


[22-Dec-18 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo why they want the rapture so much, i eman if you want to die so bad why do you need god to do it?


[22-Dec-18 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s just lazy is what it is


[22-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Nile#1441
Doomsday preachers ok, they’re definitely not understanding of scripture and what it says about those who predict the future, or specifically the end of time


[22-Dec-18 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah I mean, I'm pretty sure the Bible says no one will know the time or day


[22-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Nile#1441
Exactly


[22-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Nile#1441
More or less


[22-Dec-18 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if you did predict it it;s likely not happening while humanity is destroying the planet thye were tasked with protecting


[22-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nile#1441
Only God will know of when the end times are to come, I believe according to the gospel of Matthew


[22-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nile#1441
Could be wrong on which gospel but it’s in one of them


[22-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nile#1441
All in all, doomsday preachers either believe their own bullshit or are trying to fool fearing Christians for some kind of benefit


[22-Dec-18 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But why is Matthew right?


[22-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nile#1441
Because it’s scripture, and Christians believe that


[22-Dec-18 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why is Scripture right?


[22-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nile#1441
Where is this question chain going


[22-Dec-18 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Verifying the epistemological validity of the statements made in the Bible, or as it regards to knowing when we might all die.


[22-Dec-18 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because if the Bible is true just because it is true, then the same could be said for Lord of the Rings.


[22-Dec-18 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want pokemon to be true


[22-Dec-18 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if you don't give pause to give praise to the Messiah King Aragorn then by Gandalf I will call a crusade on you.


[22-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nile#1441
Call it bud


[22-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nile#1441
Get those basement dwellers outside :twismug:


[22-Dec-18 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're the one here on the block mate. So how is it The Bible is truth?


[22-Dec-18 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hail lord arceus


[22-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Nile#1441
It just is, I’m not a theologian


[22-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't agree with calling something like a thousands year old book the "truth" but at least you're consistent with your beliefs


[22-Dec-18 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
"It just is" is hardly a strong logical backdrop for the authority of something. As an argument without backing, it's easily dismissed and effectively done so be quoting you: "You gay". A statement without evidence or any particular logic is dismantled by that.


[22-Dec-18 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
It also falls into Euthyphro's Dillema. While God said don't kill Dad, and we agree not killing Dad is good, but if the only reason to not kill Dad is because God said so, then is God said to kill Dad then does that make killing Dad good and God right on the basis he is God?


[22-Dec-18 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
R E T U R N   T O   T H E   G R E E K   T R A D I T I O N


[22-Dec-18 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's all greek to me


[22-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Arvid#8335
I don't think it was a bad idea to withdraw troops from Syria.


[22-Dec-18 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between communism and every single individual person being a capitalist who does their own work, ie private contractors?


[22-Dec-18 06:52 AM] Arvid#8335
A lot of the same people who protested Bush's wars ended up being the same people supported Obama's wars


[22-Dec-18 06:52 AM] Arvid#8335
This is your brain on partisan politics


[22-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
what war did obama start?


[22-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
he ended the iraq war, which is widely seen as a mistake by both democrats and republicans


[22-Dec-18 06:53 AM] Arvid#8335
He bombed Lybia


[22-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
he changed how we conducted war in afghanistan with a much higher focus on remote-controlled drones


[22-Dec-18 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973

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United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, on the situation in Libya, is a measure that was adopted on 17 March 2011. The Security Council resolution was proposed by France, Lebanon, and the United Kingdom.Ten Security Council members voted in the affirmative (Bosnia an...
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[22-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
>proposed by France, Lebanon, and the United Kingdom


[22-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
>obama's war


[22-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[22-Dec-18 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
this is as close to multilateral as you can get


[22-Dec-18 06:57 AM] Arvid#8335
The drones prevented more US soldier deaths, but they also have a high civialian casualty rate.


[22-Dec-18 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
if it had been proposed by the US, russia would've very likely voted against it and prevented anything from being done just to spite them


[22-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it took awhile for them to come up with better missiles to avoid civilian casualties


[22-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
and most people that I knew (including myself) were against drone strikes


[22-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
though there were always those people who don't give a shit when the innocent brown people get bombed into the ground or not because they consider all brown people a potential terrorist


[22-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's been proven time and again that bombing the innocent brown people actually creates more terrorists than it kills


[22-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah, all the bombing and imperialism is one of the main reasons so many people hate America.


[22-Dec-18 07:01 AM] Arvid#8335
and all the civilian deaths it causes


[22-Dec-18 07:08 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I swear, the major powers in the world are all trying to bring back imperialism


[22-Dec-18 07:08 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
What with their squabbling over Middle East and hell the Arctic


[22-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's a relic of a time when the world was a zero-sum game


[22-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
if you wanted to be more wealthy, you had to take from other people


[22-Dec-18 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
only very recently has there been a positive-sum game


[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Doesn't matter if it's China, Russia, Britain, or the US


[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
These four squabbling has made the situation much worse for the rest of us Imo


[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ

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[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
ah


[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
in TVTropes we know that as enlightened self-interest


[22-Dec-18 07:10 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
i.e doing the right thing because it also brings us benefits


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I personally call it pragmatic altruism


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
that's also under liberalism


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
and neoliberalism


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
but those are more focused on immediate gain than long-term investment


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Thing is, I don't see what the world powers are doing in the Middle East qualifies under pragmatic altruism


[22-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
nothing lol


[22-Dec-18 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's imperialism


[22-Dec-18 07:12 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They're only there for the black gold


[22-Dec-18 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
it assumes that the world is still a zero-sum game


[22-Dec-18 07:12 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So, is there any sort of pragmatic altruism that *does* aim for long-term benefits?


[22-Dec-18 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
we would gain more as a whole by helping to fix all the world's problems, but many of them can't be fixed by just throwing more money at it


[22-Dec-18 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
and the only legitimate body that officially has the power to do so is the UN


[22-Dec-18 07:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and we all know who is *actually* in control of the UN lol


[22-Dec-18 07:14 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the big ol' Stars and Stripes Land


[22-Dec-18 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
the UN has basically been boiled down to a pissing contest between the US, russia, and china


[22-Dec-18 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
also the US most definitely doesn't control the UN, though it does direct it on many issues


[22-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
the UN has gone against the US in regards to israel


[22-Dec-18 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
and russia and china seem to just be there to fuck up anything the US backs


[22-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think they've actually done anything other than veto US-backed resolutions


[22-Dec-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So it's down to those Permanent Security Council members then?


[22-Dec-18 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, there should've never been a permanent security council


[22-Dec-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Esp. since only those 5 are legally allowed to own nuclear weapons


[22-Dec-18 07:16 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
indirectly putting the rest of the world at the mercy of those 5


[22-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives in the US hate the UN and say that it "steals" money from the US


[22-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Nile#1441
I don't like the UN because I think it's gay


[22-Dec-18 07:18 AM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[22-Dec-18 07:21 AM] Arvid#8335
"I think it's gay" wow I love the UN


[22-Dec-18 07:27 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Tea Party, AFAIK, hates the UN lol


[22-Dec-18 07:31 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://stopsesta.org//

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Stop SESTA/FOSTA
Defend our online communities. SESTA/FOSTA would put our communities in danger.
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[22-Dec-18 07:31 AM] Nile#1441
lol another one of these


[22-Dec-18 07:32 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Spread this


[22-Dec-18 07:32 AM] Nile#1441
No thank you.


[22-Dec-18 07:33 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Say goodbye to online porn


[22-Dec-18 07:33 AM] Nile#1441
Yay


[22-Dec-18 07:33 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And your right to express


[22-Dec-18 07:34 AM] Nile#1441
Fine by me


[22-Dec-18 07:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're already late.


[22-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
onoes the government is shut down


[22-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
ANARCHY


[22-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
BEDLAM


[22-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW


[22-Dec-18 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:


[22-Dec-18 08:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/h_T7bD4pAlE

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Prottimus
https://youtu.be/h_T7bD4pAlE
Mother Anarchy Loves Her Sons [English Subtitle]
Our horses are running mile after mile, Cause Freedom is priceless. Through the slot of my machine gun I'm looking for the enemy in the dust. Mother Anarchy ...
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[22-Dec-18 08:36 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Анархия-мать порядка


[22-Dec-18 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/21/politics/trump-syria-afghanistan-us-military/index.html

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America's unprecedented 72 hours that could reshape the world
In all the turmoil, poison, and irresponsibility of the past two years, the last 72 hours merit the term "historic."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181221094950-01-us-troops-afghanistan-file-super-tease.jpg


[22-Dec-18 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
This is a "do not adjust your set" moment, in which the world's preeminent military power effectively withdrew from its two active battlefields, ceded the ground to its geopolitical rivals, and abandoned allies. It is unprecedented. It'll be tempting to dismiss it as another folly that will pass - like 'Fire and Fury' over a nuclear North Korea - as just another whimsical uttering we will soon roll our eyes over as we sigh "remember that!".


[22-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
But President Trump's announcements about Syria and Afghanistan change something permanently. It's possible, that in the ever-changing madness, neither withdrawal will actually happen. But it is the message that is the most potent: the casual disregard of history, ally, or duty. It says the Commander in Chief considers his own gut paramount, and the decades of sacrifice that got America to this point of lesser importance.


[22-Dec-18 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
Yesterday's announcement that half the US contingent could be coming home is the equivalent of Trump walking behind his diplomats as they engage in diplomatic poker, and yelling "he's bluffing". The timing is beyond undermining.


[22-Dec-18 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/21/james-mattis-resignation-trump-erdogan-phone-call

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Mattis resignation triggered by phone call between Trump and Erdoğan
US president complied with Turkish leader’s demands and took own advisers by surprise, accounts say
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[22-Dec-18 01:29 PM] ononim#8141
US withdrawl Good but in case of Syria, since things don't just exist in vacuum, the fact that US just casually turned in locations of Kurdish bases to Turkey, another NATO state, which demonstrated what it's more than ready to invide northern Syria and enact ethnic cleanisng there (Afrin), and the fact that US sold another butch of missles to them, makes any good that could come out of it null


[22-Dec-18 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Dec-18 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://truthout.org/articles/alexa-drop-a-bomb-amazon-wants-in-on-us-warfare/

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"Alexa, Drop a Bomb": Amazon Wants in on US Warfare
The acquisitive impulses of hundreds of millions could become the stuff of their imprisonment or death.
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[22-Dec-18 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[22-Dec-18 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes because building a combination of skynet and the AI from 9 is such a fantastic fuckign idea


[22-Dec-18 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is no guaruntee it;s first response being brought onlien won't be to turn all weapons around and fire on the US


[22-Dec-18 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially knowing amazon this thing will cut corners liek a motherfucker in it;s programming and build to save time and money that amazon doesnt want to spend


[22-Dec-18 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[22-Dec-18 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's gonna be scary


[22-Dec-18 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isn't blakc mirror where the machine is perfect and knows everything because machines are perfect, this will likely be a botched ai full of logic holes that will make it just target imminent threats no matter what they are


[22-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Arvid#8335
If I become president, I'm going to model the United States after China's current government, but Americanized


[22-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Arvid#8335
Technocratic Social Democracy


[22-Dec-18 07:38 PM] Arvid#8335
Socialism With American Characteristics


[22-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Arvid#8335
I will be America's first unironic Dengist president, uphold Deng Xiaoping theory!


[22-Dec-18 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business

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How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business
Donald Trump is one of the least charitable billionaires in the
world. Eric Trump is far more altruistic. In a clash of values, the
president directed hundreds of thousands of dollars from his
son's kids-with-cancer foundation into his company coffers.
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[22-Dec-18 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1073586386945622017/

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This really happened ->
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[22-Dec-18 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does any of this mean


[22-Dec-18 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-considering-firing-jerome-powell-fed-chair-rate-hike-2018-12

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Trump’s anger over rate hikes is growing as he hints at firing F...
Trump has reportedly discussed Fed Chair Jerome Powell's ouster several times this week.
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[22-Dec-18 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the rates are bad now just imagien thme after he fires this guy


[22-Dec-18 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1076178725740240896

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https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1076178725740240896
Last night, while America was distracted by a potential government shutdown, the GOP quietly passed a tax bill that gutted the Johnson Amendment, which could give billionaires a tax break for funneling secret money into our elections through charities and churches.
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[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so churches can now "donate" to political candidates


[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
no


[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
it still has to be voted on in the senate


[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good hopefully it fails


[22-Dec-18 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
and they won't be doing any more voting this year


[22-Dec-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
but if it passes and trump signs it, churches can funnel all the untracked money they want to any candidate they want


[22-Dec-18 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
which will primarily be republicans


[22-Dec-18 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next year is going to be the worst shitshow


[22-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46661384

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US envoy quits over Trump Syria pullout
Brett McGurk resigns over President Trump's decision to pull troops out of Syria.
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[22-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
I love that last name


[22-Dec-18 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
"McGurk"


[22-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like the sound a french person makes the first time they see a mcdonald's burger from the US


[22-Dec-18 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
McHubbaDubba


[22-Dec-18 11:25 PM] moonatik#3676
>model the United States after China's current government @Arvid

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[22-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
lol, china isn't even technocratic


[22-Dec-18 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
their whole council thing is basically a rubber stamp for the ""president""


[22-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Arvid#8335
I've become more sympathetic to technocratic ideas recently


[22-Dec-18 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/12/22/how-arrest-of-chinese-princess-exposes-regimes-world-domination-plot/

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How arrest of Chinese ‘princess’ exposes regime’s world domi...
Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou’s arrest in Vancouver on Dec. 6 led to immediate blowback. Furious Chinese Communists have begun arresting innocent Canadians in retaliation. So far, three of th…
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[22-Dec-18 11:29 PM] moonatik#3676
yes it's very technocratic, that's why the current president is the son of one of the biggest figures in the early CCP


[22-Dec-18 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that china is arresting random canadian citizens in retaliation for arresting meng


[22-Dec-18 11:29 PM] Arvid#8335
I wasn't being serious with the China part, lol


[22-Dec-18 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
>It turns out that “Princess” Meng, as she is called, is Communist royalty. Her grandfather was a close comrade of Chairman Mao during the Chinese Civil War, who went on to become vice governor of China’s largest province.


[22-Dec-18 11:30 PM] Arvid#8335
I'd consider myself a technocratic socialist or a technocratic social democrat.


[22-Dec-18 11:31 PM] moonatik#3676
china is basically the worst parts of capitalism (nepotism, exploitation of workers, etc.) and authoritarian socialism (no food, tyrannical police state, etc.) combined into one horrific beast


[23-Dec-18 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-constitution/cuban-parliament-green-lights-new-constitution-heads-to-referendum-idUSKCN1OL0OF

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Cuban parliament green lights new constitution, heads to referendum
Cuban lawmakers on Saturday unanimously approved a revised draft of a new consti...
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[23-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
lots of changes


[23-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
legalizing gay marriage


[23-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46661384

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US envoy quits over Trump Syria pullout
Brett McGurk resigns over President Trump's decision to pull troops out of Syria.
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[23-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
legitimizing private business


[23-Dec-18 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
I just linked that very same article 30 minutes ago >>>:VVVVVVVVV


[23-Dec-18 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
*reppy intensifies*


[23-Dec-18 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
=/


[23-Dec-18 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
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[23-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
literally no one thinks this is a good idea lol


[23-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
I remember most people thought that obama pulling out of iraq so suddenly was a bad idea too


[23-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
but trump's going to get away with it in regards to the support of his base just because he's not obama


[23-Dec-18 12:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
US staying will ensure that Isis will have a harder time coming back. But the US will have political interest in the future of the country.  But if US leaves Russia or the UK will be the one with influence. Turd sandwich or gaint douches?


[23-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
imagine a foreign power getting so invested in a country that they build it new infrastructure, to the point that people stop rebelling


[23-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
that would never happen though, it'd be a "waste of money" to make the world more peaceful


[23-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://news.avclub.com/sacha-baron-cohen-reveals-he-filmed-an-interview-that-w-1831279089

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Sacha Baron Cohen reveals he filmed an interview that was too grim...
If Sacha Baron Cohen’s Golden Globe-nominated Showtime series Who Is America? really is finished—and honestly, we’ll believe it when we see it—there is at least one upside to the undercover show’s conclusion: Baron Cohen’s sudden willingness to do post-mortems on ...
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[23-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
FBI declined to investigate video evidence of a person claiming they can get children for the purpose of sex trafficking


[23-Dec-18 12:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Can't sell guns if nobody is at war. 🔫

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[23-Dec-18 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:
:murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder::murder:


[23-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/jump-dogs-scared-reaction-gif-4059809

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The dog and the crow
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[23-Dec-18 12:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think crows are protected for some reason

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[23-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
no, crows are least concern


[23-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
they're like humans, but they can fly


[23-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Honahue#0656
Doesn't matter there's the Migratory Bird act basically every bird in America is illegal to kill, just a few exceptions


[23-Dec-18 12:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Actually got to eat crow sandwich for my history class. When I was in highschool. It is not good tasteing IMO. Bread was also intentionly stale and used for plates.


[23-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/5739.htm

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DNR: American Crow
The official website for the Indiana Department of Natural Resources.


[23-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally eating crow


[23-Dec-18 12:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gray meat. 🤢


[23-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
"Spraying crows with water from a high pressure hose (some cities have used a fire hose) has worked. One recent innovation is a motion sensor combined with a sprinkler that attaches to a spray hose. When a crow comes into its adjustable, motion-detecting range, a sharp burst of water is sprayed at the bird. This device appears to be effective by combining a physical sensation with a startling stimulus."


[23-Dec-18 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[23-Dec-18 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_crow

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Eating crow
Eating crow is a colloquial idiom, used in some English-speaking countries, that means humiliation by admitting having been proven wrong after taking a strong position. Crow is presumably foul-tasting in the same way that being proven wrong might be emotionally hard to swallo...


[23-Dec-18 12:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"the crows will remember that"


[23-Dec-18 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Crow must feel offended at this


[23-Dec-18 12:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It was part of a study of 1800 English foods.


[23-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-does-crow-taste-like

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When Eating Crow Was an American Food Trend
The birds briefly became a delicacy.
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[23-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
Stalling’s recipe consisted of rubbing plucked crows with lard to combat their dryness, cooking them in a sealed cast-iron pan along with celery, and finishing them off with lots of gravy. Three crows per person would make a meal.


[23-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
>stalling


[23-Dec-18 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
literally stalin


[23-Dec-18 12:54 AM] DevField#5162
Sounds tasty


[23-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
"In 1935, a “wave of enthusiasm for crow” swept Oklahoma, reported the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Of course, in the trailing days of the Great Depression, eating crow was more than just excitement over an alternative protein. For farmers in Oklahoma, hungry crows posed a threat to an already precarious livelihood, and the meat was a welcome addition to their daily diet. Walkden also points out that the surrounding press and public support for crow-eating could be nothing but good for the agricultural industry, so “state officials had a vested interest in promoting the extermination of the birds,” too."


[23-Dec-18 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
dumb hicks >:V


[23-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Almost like Mao and the sparrows


[23-Dec-18 12:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You have to be desperate to intentionly eat birds outside of turkeys and chickens for a source of food. Without a teacher forcing you to eat it.


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know which pirate is the one Mao Zedong most hates?


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jack Sparrow.


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
"Lucky for the crows, the trend soon fizzled, likely because times were less desperate. Walkden suggests that most people’s instinctual disgust towards certain animals is hard to overcome, so perhaps crow-eating was doomed from the start. But Stallings was not to be deterred. Even in 1947, as part of his “Crow-for-Food movement,” Stallings could still be found telling reporters that crows were easy to get, rich in Vitamin B, and tasty."


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Got eem


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
>crows were easy to get, rich in Vitamin B, and tasty.


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
fake news


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[23-Dec-18 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**>:V**


[23-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
crows actually move out of areas where they're regularly hunted


[23-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
you know, like how refugees move out of the middle east to europe


[23-Dec-18 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, crows are smart bois


[23-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
because they're being hunted by their own governments


[23-Dec-18 12:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Killing crows is easy since they are so bold . They will land close just to get a look at you.


[23-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
killing a single crow is easy


[23-Dec-18 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
killing multiple crows isn't

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[23-Dec-18 12:59 AM] DevField#5162
*Is that a challenge?*


[23-Dec-18 01:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They are pretty defensive of their own kind and will rush to get rid of a threat to crows. Swarming and pecking!


[23-Dec-18 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[23-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
people who defend the US's shittiness as "just being the result of being soooo much bigger and better than your puny little country" freak me out <https://imgur.com/gallery/krQCrEx/comment/1549596601>


[23-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
like that's not how it works at all


[23-Dec-18 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's people in the US who actually hate credit cards and any form of electronic transactions because it gives DA GUBMENT a way to track you down and inject you with the gay or something


[23-Dec-18 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
This is true. 🏳️‍🌈


[23-Dec-18 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just dont liek credit cards because i have trouble keeping trakc of how much i have on them


[23-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
technically, you don't have anything on your credit card, just your bank account


[23-Dec-18 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
debit cards are connected directly to your bank account, it's why losing them or having them stolen is much more dangerous


[23-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
you can't spend with more than you have with a debit card, but stuff bought with credit cards are all bought on credit


[23-Dec-18 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
but you really don't want to go into debt ever


[23-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
debt will buttfuck you in the US


[23-Dec-18 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i dont


[23-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
the upside to being responsible with your credit card though is high credit rating


[23-Dec-18 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
which means lower interest rates on loans and the like


[23-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly apparently Japan is a mostly cash only country that is suprisingly technologically behind


[23-Dec-18 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in a lot use flip phones still


[23-Dec-18 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember growing up in the early 00s and being amazed by Japan having QR codes on everything


[23-Dec-18 05:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-canadian-police-warn-people-to-stop-reporting-the-smell-of-weed-20181022

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Canadian Police Warn People To Stop Calling 911 About The Smell Of...
Despite the drug being made legal in the country last week, people are still calling the police to complain about their neighbours
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[23-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop smoking skunk, people.


[23-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no need anymore.


[23-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Mikey#7286
what, did canada legalize it?


[23-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Nile#1441
Yes


[23-Dec-18 06:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lucky


[23-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Nile#1441
If you smoke it I guess, I'm not for recreational weed.


[23-Dec-18 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
there's no reason for it to be illegal anyway


[23-Dec-18 06:06 AM] Mikey#7286
and if you don't like, like cigarettes you don't need to use it


[23-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Nile#1441
I'm fine with it being used as a prescribed medicine, but I'm not for it being legal outright. As for cigarettes I'm gonna say I'd be fine banning them.


[23-Dec-18 06:08 AM] Mikey#7286
cannabis did just fine as a legal plant for millennia, but then we got racist assholes like Harry Anslinger


[23-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and suddenly it's the root of all evil and a gateway drug


[23-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
you mean greedy, racist asshole


[23-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
even though that's bull


[23-Dec-18 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
his primary motivation is not wanting to lose his position as the head of the bureau that was overseeing prohibition


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
if you have no brain you'd probably think Reefer Madness was a factual documentary


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
so he demonized marijuana so that he could stay in power


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
that was after prohibition failed iirc


[23-Dec-18 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
it just so happened that mexican immigrants smoked it a lot


[23-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
but so did everyone else


[23-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[23-Dec-18 06:11 AM] Mikey#7286
and it was also used for other properties


[23-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Regulation of drugs I think has a better track record of success than prohibition


[23-Dec-18 06:13 AM] Mikey#7286
yup


[23-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Mikey#7286
for one, it's less money keeping people incarcerated


[23-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Mikey#7286
and taxing and regulating cannabis could very well have positive effects on the economy


[23-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah also less "forbidden fruit" and the people selling it have a legal obligation to not sell to minors


[23-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[23-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
i think realistically an age limit should be set somewhat high


[23-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
My state just legalized I guess in a few years we'll see how it changes things


[23-Dec-18 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
like, 25 or so


[23-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
21 is good enough imo


[23-Dec-18 06:16 AM] Mikey#7286
well I mean, the brain isn't fully developed until about 24/25, though I wouldn't say 21 is a bad idea either


[23-Dec-18 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah that's true but you can start smoking at 18 despite the clear evidence of how awful that is


[23-Dec-18 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah true


[23-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
And other countries let you drink at 16 or so and the most recent evidence is that drinking is bad not matter how much


[23-Dec-18 06:18 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[23-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Like as a person that loves Star Trek the idea that humans should try to just be our best selves is appealing and alcohol and weed and tobacco are contra to that idea but also it's your choice and lots of great people did all those too


[23-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[23-Dec-18 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Though arguably they did it as a push back against the culture that made them illegal


[23-Dec-18 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Personally I think making them not illegal will do more good for any drug just make sure it's regulated and those that use do and those that don't won't and those that try won't fuck their lives for dumb mistakes when they were young


[23-Dec-18 06:23 AM] Mikey#7286
agreed, definitely


[23-Dec-18 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
If anything the argument against it would that sober people wouldn't be able to compete with people using drugs which says more about our weird focus of productivity over everything else imo


[23-Dec-18 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/23/government-shutdown-no-end-sight-lawmakers-head-home-holidays/2398875002/

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Government shutdown, Day 2: No end in sight as lawmakers head home...
Parts of the federal government will likely remain closed through next week after Democrats and Republicans failed to end a budget standoff.
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[23-Dec-18 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks cadet bone spurs


[23-Dec-18 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2018/09/17/gary-cohn-praises-us-justice-system-for-not-jailing-bankers/

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Gary Cohn praises US justice system for not jailing bankers
Gary Cohn “loves” the US justice system — because no Wall Street executives went to prison. The former Trump adviser and Goldman Sachs president said on Monday he believes no Wall Stree…
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[23-Dec-18 03:33 PM] moonatik#3676
these wankers deserve to rot in a prison cell


[23-Dec-18 03:34 PM] moonatik#3676
running criminal operations, defrauding millions, and crashing the world economy shouldn't come without consequences


[23-Dec-18 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe if we sacrifice thme to yellowstone we can live another 30 years


[23-Dec-18 03:35 PM] moonatik#3676
there's a little revolutionary syndicalist within my soul and every time I'm reminded of class injustices like this it grows


[23-Dec-18 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i wasnt in the middle of buttfuck nowhere i would probably be up for destroying several hundred bankers


[23-Dec-18 06:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1076111001462943744

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https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1076111001462943744
My favorite Mattis story: he took 30 seconds to approve an attack on the village of Mukaradeeb in April 2004 which killed 42 civilians, including 13 kids, who were attending a wedding. “I don’t have to apologize for the conduct of my men,” he said later.
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[23-Dec-18 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim >the absolute hatred of brown people in the response tweets feed


[23-Dec-18 07:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the hell is wrong with these people? It's like they can't see such brown people for what they are, i.e., human beings.


[23-Dec-18 07:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, one of them just said "THE DRONESTRIKES AND INVASION OF IRAQ ARE PAYBACK FOR 911"


[23-Dec-18 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind that all of the terrorists implicated in the 9/11 plot were from Saudi Arabia


[23-Dec-18 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Another just pulled a complete nonsequitur and mentioned Qatar's semi-slave labour conditions


[23-Dec-18 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, implying that all Scary Brown People (tm) are the same


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
Hm, I wonder which demographics are labouring in slave conditions in Gulf States, must be those ~~Aryan~~ pale skinned christians


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
hm let me check


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
...


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
no


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
it couldn't be


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BUT ONONIM


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
The people opressed by them


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BLACK PEOPLE NO LONGER SUFFER RACISM IN OUR MODERN WORLD


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
IS ACTUALLY MOSTLY BRONW MUSLIMS?!


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU OTHERWISE IS AN SJW


[23-Dec-18 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
HOW COULD THAT BE


[23-Dec-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
BUT RICH PEOPLE ARE SUPER OPPRESSED GUISE!


[23-Dec-18 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
THINK OF THE POOR RICH PEOPLE!


[23-Dec-18 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Darn those stinky rich brown people! I only have respect for rich white people."


[23-Dec-18 08:03 PM] Litrojia#0612
By "politics", I meant that Voat hosted a lot of far right activity


[23-Dec-18 08:15 PM] Nile#1441
When big platforms ban duh content they’re going to flock to their own site


[23-Dec-18 08:19 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and they get ten times more radical whenever they do


[23-Dec-18 08:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and then all you need is one major civilizaitonal crisis and they explode into the political scene


[23-Dec-18 08:20 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and then all you need is one major civilizaitonal crisis and they explode into the political scene


[23-Dec-18 08:21 PM] Nile#1441
I also don’t get the reason for outrage on these communities either


[23-Dec-18 08:21 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and now discord won't send my freaking message


[23-Dec-18 08:21 PM] Nile#1441
Twitter bans many prominent right wing people, they go to Gab, complain it’s very right wing, demand it to be defunded and shut down


[23-Dec-18 08:22 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're communists that's why they focus on the right wing radicals


[23-Dec-18 08:23 PM] Nile#1441
The fuss over Gab is pretty ridiculous, it’s a perfectly fine site


[23-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
gab has it's own issues most of which aren't related to all the idiot identitarians


[23-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
of course twitter is ten times worse infested with identarians and being run by an idealouge


[23-Dec-18 08:26 PM] Nile#1441
Gab prides itself on being free and open to people, especially like those who are identitsrians or stuff like that


[23-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Nile#1441
Twitter can’t do that because leftists will screech about Twitter not “having a spine” by refusing to delete right wing pages that are doing nothing wrong, apart from having edgy opinions.


[23-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and do nothing about the legit terroists on the platoform gab's big problem is that torba is only pragmaticly in favor of free speech


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Gab actually censors stuff that the owner doesn't like


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nile#1441
Is there evidence of that


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nile#1441
Show


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Banning loli


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
long term that's gonna be a big problem more concerning though is the destablization of the net's finacial side via patreon


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) I don't think the paper will smell any different since the paper industry is basically shittons of chemistry these days


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
*agrees with byte for once*


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hemp tho is really useful for textiles too


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nile#1441
Loli is a legal issue, byte


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
...but tons of states ban it too


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
so like


[23-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
RIP


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ashcroft vs freespeechcoaliton


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
It's legal in Gab's jurisdiction


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
They can do it


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
loli is ostensibly legal in the US unless the court hates you


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't because the owner doesn't like it


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
same with sending dikk pics to a minor


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that ruling technically means dikk pics are illegal to send across state lines


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
acctualy it's the other way around the courts say it's legal there's just a lot of relic laws about criminalizing it


[23-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the law flexes and bends in the US to punish people politically


[23-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile teenagers are gettign themselves arrested for sending nudes of themselves to eachother


[23-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What if someone takes a dick pic, someone crosses a state line to collect it, and then returns to their state with the memory of the dick pic in their mind?


[23-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How long until we have memory scans for crossing the border with illegal thoughts


[23-Dec-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that relies on mind readign technology


[23-Dec-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo if we have that yet


[23-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[23-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
do not ship your porn when you travel


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
keep it at home


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I was acctualy one of the figures calling our torba on his bs the whole loli issue continues to be a huge issue in my own political circle


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many countries will find SOMETHING in it to punish you with


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
except Switzerland


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the US may be able to take issue with it going across state lines


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if you're refering to that one case it's even more insane than you think


[23-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nile#1441
Why is it an issue in your circle


[23-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nile#1441
In the reactionary circle, we collectively hate it :twismug:


[23-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because it's calling into question the commitment to free speech of some important people


[23-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
louie is the only principled person on the issue


[23-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nile#1441
Masturbating to little girls in anime is a free speech issue?


[23-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being able to draw sexy little girls is


[23-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The masturbation to them is not illegal and cannot be made illegal.


[23-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
By a SCOTUS ruling.


[23-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(yet)


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Overturning that case would immediately lead to serious talk of revolt, TSP


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the case I'm referring to is what deteremined outlawing gay sex is unconstitutional.


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They just need to clarify it


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many states keep those laws on their books, hoping the ruling will be overturned


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because of the arguments put foreward by the anti loli crowd hinge on illogical arguments


[23-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They did clarify it


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ruling basically says the gov't can't intrude on what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home sexually


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also ashcroft vs freespeech coalition effecticly legalizes loli drawing and distrubution


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nile#1441
Should overturn it


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nile#1441
Tbh


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means sex toys, porn, and particular types of sex can't be outlawed altogether.


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In any case, let's all remember that entertainment where people are slowly mutilated in extreme detail is celebrated, sold and advertised everywhere


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While tiddies are BAD


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and all they need to do is revisit miller and all censorship in terms of legality in america will end


[23-Dec-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of law makers want to treat it liek it;s real child porn with actuall child victims but it's not really and it;s a weird bit of arguement


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's an insane argument that assumes a lot of insane things


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think it'll be a while before they open Miller's can of worms


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it will de facto be applied to the internet


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anthony Weiner's dikk pics will get a site taken down etc.


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's already happened once, with loli in email spam


[23-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That case determined you can challenge it anywhere


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thus choose the jurisdiction used for the Miller Test


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nile#1441
The UK has the right idea for now


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://stallman.org/articles/witch-hunt.html


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GTA:SA got into trouble because you could have consensual sex with your girlfriend /and see her tits/, but not because you could rampage down the street with a tank and blow random pedestrians to wet bloody giblets


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I could like bring a case in Amish country


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The UK does not have the right idea


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And destroy PornHub


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Nobody does really


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The UK is the worst example of anything


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're complete idiots


[23-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's where SCOTUS might actually take it up on appeal.


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nile#1441
No


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nile#1441
They’re right on wanting to restrict porn, albeit very lightly


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
"very lightly"


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
dude


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
they go after gay people for pictures of being fisted


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
problem is they want to ban everything short of th emissionary straight position


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It keeps being shot down in court


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They want to keep a registry of deviants that want access to porn


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it never dies


[23-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and probably that too


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nile#1441
Good


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And explicitly ban such vile things as female ejaculation or facesitting


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I can cite other crazy shit the Uk does


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their extreme porn law is vague on purpose


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Technically


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nile#1441
Based


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
anything not classified by the BBFC


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
which would be disallowed


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
like spanking, watersports, female orgasms, etc.


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't take seriously a country that can abridge the freedom of the press with one court order


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
is illegal to make accessible in the UK


[23-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
and in that law


[23-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
they hav the right to publicly shame you until you remove it, even if you aren't in the UK


[23-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Derpi could literally get on BBC news for having spanking images


[23-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not that they could actually do anything, but like


[23-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's stupid.


[23-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They have the custom of naming and shaming before anything goes to trial


[23-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People have been beaten to death by neighbours because they were accused of pedophilia without proof


[23-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
does anyone sane take the BBC seriously they've harrased youtubers and japenese anime makers


[23-Dec-18 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if most of these governments coudl thye would likely make sex illegal for everything but breeding


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The BBC is taken very seriously


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then arrewst the women for miscarriaging


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're effectively the mouth of the UK gov't


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even when it turns out to be an obvious case of "some neighbour didn't like the colour of their door", they've already been publicly denounced as a kiddie diddler


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is morally free game to kill


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
lots of factual reporting, but every now and then they go WE FOUND PETER FILES ON FACEBOOK AND YOU SHOULD HURT THEM FOR SHARING LOLI


[23-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just about every brit I meet hates the BBC


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They hate sky and ITV more


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont blame them considerignt he bbc is tax funded


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brits hate everything


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I hate NPR too


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The BBC is under no obligation to support gov't interests


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Except when compared to not-british things


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does so largely because it's run by old people


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then they swell up with pride and start barking about the continentals and the colonies and whatnot


[23-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they certainly don't support the people's intrests


[23-Dec-18 08:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
BBC stands for BigBritishCock. Bend over and pay your TV licence fees.


[23-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's most of europe these days


[23-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In germany you have to pay TV licensing


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
TV needs to die already


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if you dont own a tv?


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even when you have no TV or radio or anything capable or reproducing signals from radio or TV


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Explicltly


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the EU needs pan-EU licensing already


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the EU needs to die


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Yes. A phone is enough.


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They passed a law of "one household, one TV liecense"


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
why would they not just wrap it into the tax rate


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is a good thing but doing its actual goal is seen as harmful to certain industries' interests


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because who would ever live without a TV, right?


[23-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't know


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's infuriating


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The eventual, inevitable goal of the EU is a Europe country.


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It's a tax pretending to be something else.


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a fucking obligatory tax


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's taxed separetely


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
dominated by germany remember how well that went last time


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
United States of Europe etc.


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
godwin already


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nazi Germany was no federation


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the europe equivalent of the usa?


[23-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do any of you have any idea how the EU acctualy works


[23-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not even close


[23-Dec-18 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
considering that several people here actually live in it, I would think so


[23-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Poorly


[23-Dec-18 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i knwo it;s run by people who don;t knwo how to read but that's about it


[23-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'll take that as a no


[23-Dec-18 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i might knwo more if i lived in europe


[23-Dec-18 08:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Whenever the EU is brought up it seems someone in the US claims it is NAZI or Communist.


[23-Dec-18 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where they probably teahc how it operates in schools


[23-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
who proposes legislation in the EU


[23-Dec-18 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is neither


[23-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they don't otherwise the spell would break


[23-Dec-18 08:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They don't teach it much in UK schools. They do teach some in germany and france. not sure about the rest.


[23-Dec-18 08:53 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the answer to my question will tell you a lot about the EU


[23-Dec-18 08:53 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's so undemocratic it couldn't join itself


[23-Dec-18 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
elaborate


[23-Dec-18 08:54 PM] Nile#1441
Undemocratic is based but yuck the EU is gross


[23-Dec-18 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/getonwithit-gif-10089177

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https://media.tenor.co/images/8e93e0bd397d92e92a6d22c284903935/tenor.png


[23-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the only people that can propose legislation is the commision who elects them


[23-Dec-18 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
Shut the fuck up everyone


[23-Dec-18 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46642251

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46642251
Sudan anti-government protests turn deadly
Eight demonstrators are killed in clashes with armed police as violence spreads, officials say.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11184/production/_104902007_hi051272424.jpg


[23-Dec-18 08:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nobody does they're apointed.


[23-Dec-18 08:56 PM] Nile#1441
I don’t care about Sudan


[23-Dec-18 08:56 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
can the meps stop legislation no they can't


[23-Dec-18 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
Well, nobody cares about canadian monarchists either, yet here we are


[23-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Nile#1441
Bro


[23-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Nile#1441
It’s Sudan


[23-Dec-18 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[23-Dec-18 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
and?


[23-Dec-18 08:58 PM] Nile#1441
What is so important


[23-Dec-18 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
It's at least eight of my fellow human beings killed for daring to protest a government


[23-Dec-18 08:59 PM] DevField#5162
Horrible news.


[23-Dec-18 08:59 PM] Nile#1441
Ok


[23-Dec-18 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they're poor and black, onon, that makes them less than human


[23-Dec-18 09:00 PM] DevField#5162
And they were probably men too, considering there was no sex distinction


[23-Dec-18 09:00 PM] DevField#5162
nothing to worry about :twismug:


[23-Dec-18 09:00 PM] Nile#1441
#savetheblacks or something


[23-Dec-18 09:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
people were killed protesting the government. This will rise tensions and more people will protest because of it. May start a civil war.


[23-Dec-18 09:00 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and probably weren't some crazy idealouges


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
meanwhile france is considering a repeat of it's revolution and nobody cares


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nile#1441
The poor blacks need to be saved


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nile#1441
The French ain’t important


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's hyperbolic hyperbole, harazu


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Nile#1441
:twismug:


[23-Dec-18 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nile there's #memes-and-shitposts


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can go there


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nile#1441
m8 literally half the people do the same shitpost shtick and you’re telling ME to move


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Nile#1441
Lol


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
saw pics floating around a few weeks back of yellow vest protesters hanging around a guilotine getting ideas


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
@Theadora Keshtah if you were away for a week or so from this channel


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
doesn't means that it wasn't talked about


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
in fact


[23-Dec-18 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
it was pretty discussed here


[23-Dec-18 09:03 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I was away from the politics channel so ok


[23-Dec-18 09:09 PM] ononim#8141
In less depressing news


[23-Dec-18 09:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46602735

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46602735
A city watching out for Russian and Chinese spies
Picturesque Prague might be hiding dozens of foreign spies, the Czech intelligence agency fears.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/8CD9/production/_104875063_gettyimages-143917343.jpg


[23-Dec-18 09:09 PM] ononim#8141
huh


[23-Dec-18 09:10 PM] ononim#8141
I do remember there being rather large russian diplomatic presence in Prague half a decade ago


[23-Dec-18 09:10 PM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
try california you'll find a few diane fineistne's driver was a chinese spy


[23-Dec-18 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
http://alihanrin.com/news/news-incidents-news/fire-at-the-mine-in-the-perm-region-filmed/

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Alihan Alihanrin
http://alihanrin.com/news/news-incidents-news/fire-at-the-mine-in-the-perm-region-filmed/
Fire at the mine in the Perm region filmed | Alihanrin
Channel Five published a video from a fire site at the Uralkali mine in Solikamsk, Perm Region. The video was posted on Saturday, December 22, on the website of the channel. Follow us in Twitter [...]


[23-Dec-18 10:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/europe/9-russian-miners-trapped-by-salt-mine-fire/2018/12/22/27f3c7ee-05ed-11e9-958c-0a601226ff6b_story.html?noredirect=on


[23-Dec-18 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
>world/europe


[23-Dec-18 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
WP crazy


[23-Dec-18 10:07 PM] ononim#8141
?


[23-Dec-18 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Usually "world" sections of news sites means anything out of the home geography of the news site. Like in the BBC the US and Canada are part of their "world" section of their news. It's the international news


[23-Dec-18 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
You'll still find news from Africa and Asia or Latin America next to Europe in their world section.


[23-Dec-18 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/salka-francisco-vargas-boxer-shorts-america-1st-border-wall-video-reaction-trump-boxing-mexico

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Andrew Joseph
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/salka-francisco-vargas-boxer-shorts-america-1st-border-wall-video-reaction-trump-boxing-mexico
Boxer wears 'America 1st' wall shorts against Mexican fighter, get...
Well, that backfired.
https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/screen-shot-2018-04-15-at-1-01-16-pm.jpg?w=1024&h=576&crop=1


[23-Dec-18 11:25 PM] Arvid#8335
I'm watching illuminati conspiracy theory videos right now.


[23-Dec-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Dec-18 11:25 PM] Arvid#8335
What's so bad about the illuminati exactly? They seem pretty cool to me.


[23-Dec-18 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably better thna what we have now


[23-Dec-18 11:26 PM] Arvid#8335
ONE WORLD SATANIC EMPIRE, I love it


[23-Dec-18 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
satanists always seemed pretty chill to me


[23-Dec-18 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast the ones who arent jonestown cults anyway


[23-Dec-18 11:30 PM] Arvid#8335
Yeah.


[23-Dec-18 11:30 PM] Arvid#8335
I am absoluetly down with the Satanic empire.


[23-Dec-18 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as loong as i;m not a human sacrifice i;m good


[23-Dec-18 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably work better than the "christian" empire we have going now


[23-Dec-18 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Illuminati confirmed


[23-Dec-18 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"christian" beign the loosest term i can think of


[23-Dec-18 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"shariah rejects" beign the tightest term i cna think of


[24-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
hahahaha WHAT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/23/us/politics/trump-mattis.html

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By HELENE COOPER and KATIE ROGERS
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/23/us/politics/trump-mattis.html
Trump, Angry Over Mattis’s Rebuke, Removes Him 2 Months Early
Mr. Trump, in a Twitter post, said that Patrick M. Shanahan, Mr. Mattis’s deputy, would serve as the acting defense secretary.
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[24-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
oh my fucking god


[24-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
what a fucking baby


[24-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't read mattis's resignation letter


[24-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
when he finally saw what was actually written in it, he got so mad he fired mattis on the spot


[24-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
"Mr. Mattis had wanted to stay through a NATO defense ministers meeting scheduled for February, hoping to enshrine recent moves by the alliance to bulk up its security compact as a bulwark against Russia."


[24-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[24-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
Officials in allied nations, who had already expressed unease over Mr. Mattis’s resignation, voiced exasperation over his hastened departure. “And now Trump gets rid of SecDef Mattis almost immediately,” Carl Bildt, a former prime minister of Sweden, wrote on Twitter. “No smooth transition. No effort at reassurance to allies. Just vindictive.”


[24-Dec-18 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is a 72 year old infant


[24-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkey-masses-troops-kurdish-held-syrian-town-59984033

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Turkey masses troops near Kurdish-held Syrian town
Turkey is massing troops near a town in northern Syria held by a U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led force, a war monitor said as Turkish media reported Sunday new reinforcements crossing the borders. The Turkish buildup comes even though Turkey said it would delay a promised offensi...
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[24-Dec-18 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because turkey totally sticks to it;s word


[24-Dec-18 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep that's a thing erdogan does allt he time


[24-Dec-18 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good ol' promise keeper' they call him


[24-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump still being alive proves the US is a nation of pussies


[24-Dec-18 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the secret service hed be dead by now


[24-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For all the shit people give France, they set Paris on fire over a small gas fee


[24-Dec-18 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people of france havent attacked macron in person


[24-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't have to to get what they wanted


[24-Dec-18 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They've gotten the fee revoked /and/ an increase in minimum wages


[24-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile DC just smiles and whispers "bend over"


[24-Dec-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m glad for them but unfortunatly for us we really need too incapacitate the rpesident directly


[24-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the entire country spreads wide


[24-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Start small


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well actually it's more liek trump holds a gun to our heads, and rapes us without lube


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
State congressman tweets his support for Trump? Have him found dead a week later with a MAGA hat down his throat


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that there's actually nothing the US people can do directly to trump to threaten his position as president


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
thats our representatives' jobs


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the secret service is a thing


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
but they aren't doing their fucking jobs


[24-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They can, they don't want to


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Secret service won't stop a bullet


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm waiting on the moment that the cultural obsession with being polite boils over and we can go back to   H A Y M A R K ET   S T Y L E    P R O T E S T I N G


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
I mean legally


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who approach politicians get shot dead by them


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
macron can actually be just thrown out on his ear


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our politicians are surrounded by armed fucking guards


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So much fucking rarara about the 2nd amendment and needing guns to keep the government in line


[24-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And nothing comes out of it


[24-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just hoora bs lines spouted to sell guns to yokels


[24-Dec-18 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well of course nothing comes out of it allt he rara is coming form peopel with armed guards


[24-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
the right to bear arms is taken away at will by the government


[24-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Right to Bear Arms has been delegated to the realm of public spectacle for the benefit of both parties.


[24-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
like reagan actually got the ball rolling in california for its strict gun regulations


[24-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
because some black panthers were patrolling the streets with guns


[24-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one in politics loses no matter where the 2nd Ammendment Right goes but the rest of us, because at the end there's still such an imbalance between state power and our power that there's no possibility of checking government tyranny anyways.


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
So really we do need personal ownership of nukes.


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
(reagan was the last republican governor of california)


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only way an armed revolution is working is if we get th epolice on our side and that's not happening because thye fill police corps with power hungry jack asses who have an itchy trigger finger


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't need a revolution


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh wait, schwarzenegger was republican too maybe


[24-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You need a few people with long arms


[24-Dec-18 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) Any revolution doesn't work until you get the military in on it too, or enough of it to effect the balance of power.


[24-Dec-18 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the competent assassins never show up durign republican holdings


[24-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that in the US, fox news actually says that going up to a politician while they're on a walk or in a restaurant or in public at all and cajoling them or protesting their policies is wrong and should be illegal


[24-Dec-18 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
At the end of the day though a revolution doesn't neccesarily need to be violent. You do need a mass movement, but you don't get that either by complaining online. So anything serious I can say to potentially make any progress on any proper reform is to join an organization or something. Sign  up with a union, the IWW perhaps and preferably since they organizationally have their eyes on a post-capitalist, democratic world order. The DSA too, which should have local and nearby chapters for you to regularly visit; and the DSA is booming right now, they'd be in the post position to champion electoral revolution.


[24-Dec-18 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well only for republicans


[24-Dec-18 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Joining a group like them would allow you to network out and build the interpersonal relationships and act on the immediate material needs of people to construct a proper platform, and less so any abstract notion of political philosophy and theory. You could go on for days materially analyzing shit in the Marxist tradition to explain how things are bad, but that critique isn't going to keep someone in their house.


[24-Dec-18 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a kind of a worn out left-wing trope but it's true; you gotta build, build, and build. Organize some shit, get involved in things. Like infecting politics with the worm, the bug of progressive reform if not straight socialism.


[24-Dec-18 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if we're due for another crash and if we're coming up on that now: we get our second chance to mobilize a reformed Occupy movement.


[24-Dec-18 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the closest oen to me is 2 hours away


[24-Dec-18 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well that'd make things difficult then, but getting into it as a network might get you in a position to organize with other nearby people to start up your own DSA local depending on what resources are on hand.


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Use someone's basement or shit.


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
the US is actually in a position that makes it very hard to convince people to revolt


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
things are really tough, but not so tough that just getting by isn't out of reach


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie has discussed this before


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
so you have to choose between either being homeless and revolting, or keep working and just barely scrape by


[24-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's say for argument that the US had a Yellow Jacket movement


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's say that for safety reasons, the government couldn't be held in DC


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would give a shit


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is there are no real mechanisms for the people to softly depose the politicians.


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't do a recall vote


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor a no-confidence vote


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Congress would convene in NYC or Philadelphia and ignore the protests


[24-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
all there is is impeachment


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
without real mechanisms to fear by which the people can softly depose politicians, you either assassinate them or nothing happens


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's not happening.


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge oversight in our constitution.


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's why you construct alternative secondary power sources to compete with and effect the potential of change on a national basis. Do some Proudhon shit.


[24-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The executive branch _needs_ neutering


[24-Dec-18 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Banks can't be banks if most of everyone is using an anarchist credit union.


[24-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The legislative branch needs accountability


[24-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EOs are probably unconstitutional; and SCOTUS judges shouldn't be picked by one person


[24-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judicial branch needs more independence


[24-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The line is that the judiciary is "the least dangerous branch"


[24-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I knew people who said that they were super liberal but that Scalia was right about the executive branch and I was thinking


[24-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
oh shit what are you doing


[24-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
what did scalia say about the executive branch?


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble with Scalia is virtually everything he actually says is right


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scalia didn't think that you could ever have special counsels


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
ever


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he constantly twists words in order to make very bad things somehow look okay


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's how federalist judges work


[24-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just shitposted for 15 pages in every dissent


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They come up with a well-reasoned argument for what should actually be, then they tweak a few things to get their way.


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Real talk though


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They named a law school after him


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FykNklA7OJY

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stimulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FykNklA7OJY
Dual Power
American anarchist Scott Crow helps us to deconstruct the trap of electoral politics and offers us a more viable alternative to invest our time in: Dual Power
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FykNklA7OJY/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Antonin Scalia School of Law


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also known as


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
ASS Law


[24-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile judges like Sotomayor will instead make things all right...but their words are lakking


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, without like special counsels


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The executive just goes nuts


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
we saw this happen after Lincoln died


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a 7-1 decision saying special counsels are okay


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the president that took over basically wanted to destroy the north


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives hang their hats on one Scalia dissent


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Congress was solely northerners


[24-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it couldn't even manage to impeach him


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite the Clinton impeachments showing how useful special counsels are


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it had to write unconstitutional laws just to neuter his BS


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn think we can set up a competing power source int he US


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should've had a constitutional amendment that made gov't more accountable


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just the ones we got that were focused on providing rights


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause rights are great and all but


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We need one explicitly saying what the executive can and cannot do


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
they mean nothing if the entire gov't is corrupt and unaccountable


[24-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The power grab post WWII is disgusting.


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
what we need is


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
something whereby popular dissent can actually remove politicians after they take office


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What we are getting closer and closer to


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is an absolutist monarch as president


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also need what canada has, where if a shut down happens everyone gets purged and we elect new people including the rpesident


[24-Dec-18 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giving the gov't power is useful in many ways


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately, anti-federalists were wrong


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it has to be held accountable or it just fukks you up


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, we had a Civil War about that


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes using shut downs as a weapon far less appelaing when it emans you suicide your pwoer int he process


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
the US has steadily been falling behind in terms of democracy and freedom as time has gone on


[24-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
dissolving parliament is done by the PM with approval from the queen @prism stryder(intexda)


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well fuck


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is the PM doesn't usually change from it


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
new zealand is actually considered one of the "freest" countries in the world


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie have you ever seen the scene from the film "Charles III"


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a tool where the PM can get rid of political dissent in parliament


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where Charles is finally King, and Parliament is passing a bill about restricting free speech


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
I'd say that new zealand and australia are probably the best english-speaking countries to live atm


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if Mitch McConnel could force a reelection of the entire senate whenever he wanted


[24-Dec-18 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he breaks into Parliament and dissolves it


[24-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and also Trump was his second head


[24-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he just needed Pence to approve it


[24-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Pence was in place for life


[24-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if it were a Charles I scenario but with Trump now


[24-Dec-18 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell would let Trump arrest Democratic senators


[24-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, UK politics are currently a mess


[24-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the people overall want essentially what the Democratic party in America does


[24-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead they're getting Republican-lite policies


[24-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mealymouthed approaches to leftist issues?


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because that's what the Democratic Party does in the US


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because nobody can stop Theresa May's neverending train of failures as she slowly unweaves the state's welfare setup


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brits love to be leftist, but also to complicate everything because WHAT IF THE BROWN PEOPLE REALLY ARE BAD?


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Conquer half the brown world


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Bring brown people home to be servants


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>wtf, they want rights?!


[24-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I call that one the de Gaulle dilemma


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
France is so shit to _pied-noirs_


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't they always consider themselves French first before Algerian


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly you realize Algeria is technically part of your country and the people there want the rights of those in your country


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that they're muslims


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
brown muslims


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
who hav no interest in baguettes


[24-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
muh _laicite_


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean their secularism thing


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't enforce it evenly


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's basically just a way to discriminate against muslims right now


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I criticize the US a lot but without a constitution protecting religion


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
without taking bribes from the catholic church


[24-Dec-18 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just get shit what France does


[24-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
A fun little experiment found that if you had even a muslim-sounding name on your CV


[24-Dec-18 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
you had to talk up how much you were totally against religion in any manner just to get near about the same employment as a white guy


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
No issue for Christian anything


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.bloombergquint.com/law-and-policy/license-to-kill-policing-to-get-a-trial-run-in-rio-de-janeiro?fbclid=IwAR32MOzzyDBRWcw8J06mqFBu-W3LWnQqjpfJHGqh7XRO1vbI5gaiMn692TE#gs.ViR2oEU

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License-to-Kill Policing to Get a Trial Run in Rio de Janeiro
As many as 120 sharpshooters will accompany police incursions into the slums of Brazil’s postcard city to exterminate criminals.
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[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
CYBERPUNK ACCELERATION


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What name is even "super Christian" soundinfg


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
vs like


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
a super "Muslim sounding"


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a few


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
ALexander


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
Christian


[24-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also, you can put stuff in your CV talking about church connections


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it doesn't do anything


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] ononim#8141
Basically


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say the same about a mosque and you're unhirable


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] ononim#8141
European names, especially Western


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if you put in your CV that you are a member of the American Atheists or worked at Planned Parenthood


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's racist


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's France, Its


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they won't care


[24-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When submitting a CV in a different country


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll see "American"


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
LOOK UP THE LAW


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, who calls it CV


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] ononim#8141
I wonder how much people were racist against someone because they had "muslim name" but the person was Assyrian or Armenian and the like


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some things are illegal to mention


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every American calls it a resume


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
don't french people hate americans too


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Europeans do, Its


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
most europeans do, actually


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Americans measure things in inches


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their terms are worthless


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder


[24-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
if Americans ever have universal healthcare and other European stuff


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We will still refuse to use the Metric system


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Putting your marital status in a german CV is against the law, but photos are fine


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The complete opposite is the case in England


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I DEMAND TWENTY MILICUPS OF THIS DRUG


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could get a democratic Socialist president that had Medicare for All


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
also what's a CV


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But we would still use Imperial


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
curriculum vitae


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Curriculum Vitae


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
fancy latin for resume


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Life document basically


[24-Dec-18 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
or path-thing


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans use a mish mosh of measurements like the British do


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liters, gallons, ounces, grams


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just want to totally demolish cooking measurements


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause like, damn


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
>CV


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
first time hearing about this thing


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Measuring things by volume is so much easier


[24-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
teaspoons, tablespoons, cups, quarts, gallons


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of these are volume measurements


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
Wikipedia's "page in other languages" feature help me


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only the last two hav a sane relationship


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
cups are sort of quarter quarts


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do Europeans have electric scales in their kitchens?


[24-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most Americans just have a bunch of cups/spoons.


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of specific measurements


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't, I know they sell them


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] ononim#8141
You probably mean "EU member states" but we do have one, tho it's a more of a fancy thing we use few times a year


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] ononim#8141
if it's not broken


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And sure we have measuring cups


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They just have shit in centilitres


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I am a weird American because I have a kettle in my kitchen


[24-Dec-18 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I make hipster coffee so


[24-Dec-18 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
>russian wiki has thre paragraph page on CV and it's not even translated


[24-Dec-18 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
SO yeah


[24-Dec-18 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
a weord westerner thing :^)


[24-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What do you give prospective employers to show where you've worked at and what you've studied, onon?


[24-Dec-18 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how much fereinheit in a cup?


[24-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
vodka, probably


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
A resume


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resumes are the US thing


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
you just need enough vodka to get the employer drunk enough to employ you


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is it's like a CV, but ONE PAGE ONLY


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
and as far as I am aware it's just something you wriute yourself plus recomendations?


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
OH!


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
We have трудовая книжка


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh, CVs should only be one page


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
But it's striclty work related


[24-Dec-18 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As in one page both sides


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
no other information


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resumes are one page one side


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause murrika hates trees


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but instead of just one page onyl thye make you fill otu the same page over andf over again multiple times


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_record_book

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Employment record book
An employment record book is an official personal document recording the employment status of its owner over time. Many European countries issue such documents. The first employment record books are said to have been issued in German Reich in 1892 in the mining industry.


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
Dis thing


[24-Dec-18 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_record_book#Soviet_Union_and_Russia

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Employment record book
An employment record book is an official personal document recording the employment status of its owner over time. Many European countries issue such documents. The first employment record books are said to have been issued in German Reich in 1892 in the mining industry.


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You have basic personal details (dof, name, contact address), then latest employment (separated by roles, time in role, primary duties), and so on


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not meant to be your life story


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Life stories are for second interviews


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the field I'm in there are two interviews per job


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's common


[24-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta have those screeners


[24-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
First a skype/phone interview, usually two rounds of that


[24-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then if that goes ahead, you get invited for a full-day on-site interview


[24-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is 4 interviews with 2-3 people each


[24-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus a lunch interview with your would-be line manager


[24-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A meeting with HR to go over HR stuff


[24-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a tour of the studio


[24-Dec-18 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep, typical


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did I show you guys how Boston University's law school had a winter break reading list and suggested a pony fanfic


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And all of the normies were upset


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's...something


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
is there something to do with law in that fanfic? never read it


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, it's just about Lyra being sad IIRC


[24-Dec-18 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
human-pony rights and relations


[24-Dec-18 03:05 AM] ononim#8141
That's bacground pony


[24-Dec-18 03:05 AM] ononim#8141
afaik as far as fanfic go it's pretty "deep" and good


[24-Dec-18 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I know SS&E due to that austraeoh fanfic he was writing on an alt account


[24-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
which I stopped reading a couple years ago when I was caught up on it


[24-Dec-18 03:06 AM] ononim#8141
~~lyra is literally a "background pony" as in she's just prop and no one remembers her after they interacted with her, even her beautiful music~~


[24-Dec-18 03:06 AM] ononim#8141
Is austereoth the guy who writes "RD flies East" serries?


[24-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[24-Dec-18 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
he's taken a break or quit writing or something at the 9th story


[24-Dec-18 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32973/Imploding+Colon/stories


[24-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury/top-trump-official-calls-bankers-will-convene-plunge-protection-team-idUSKCN1OM0LJ

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury/top-trump-official-calls-bankers-will-convene-plunge-protection-team-idUSKCN1OM0LJ
Top Trump official calls bankers, will convene 'Plunge Protection...
U.S. President Donald Trump's Treasury secretary called top U.S. bankers on...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181223&t=2&i=1338392878&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEBM0GW


[24-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[24-Dec-18 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
U.S. President Donald Trump’s Treasury secretary called top U.S. bankers on Sunday amid an ongoing rout on Wall Street and made plans to convene a group of officials known as the “Plunge Protection Team.”


[24-Dec-18 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like they're about to do something retarded which will somehow make everything worse


[24-Dec-18 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"about to"


[24-Dec-18 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They've been going full retard since day one


[24-Dec-18 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
plunge protection?


[24-Dec-18 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god are thye goign to try and make wallstreet dive proof soemhow?


[24-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing makes people feel more secure than hearing the people in charge say they're going to be handing out life vests


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're going to try to make sure rich people with stokks can't be screwed over


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
likely in a way that drains money from the poor


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But only for a select few as chosen by a committee composed of life vest employees


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sorry, not employees


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Live vest investors and CEOs


[24-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine life vests made from middle and lower class americans


[24-Dec-18 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
handed out to all the brokers and CEOs and such


[24-Dec-18 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if a violent revolution does happen it needs to be at stock market locations


[24-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
stock market locations aren't where billionaires hang out


[24-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
they're where billionaires pay people to hang out


[24-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://abc7chicago.com/society/man-turns-in-$10000-cash-found-in-purse-on-ny-subway-platform/4953898/

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https://abc7chicago.com/society/man-turns-in-$10000-cash-found-in-purse-on-ny-subway-platform/4953898/
Man turns in $10,000 cash found in purse on NY subway platform
The gift of giving back was taken to another level when a Manhattan man turned in $10,000 cash he found in a purse on a subway platform to police.
https://cdns.abclocal.go.com/content/wabc/images/cms/122118-subwaymoney.jpg


[24-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
"Police confirm the bag belonged to a woman who lives in Manhattan. She was heading on vacation to Russia, and just a few hours after she realized she lost the bag, she came to the 20th Precinct to file a report - the same place Taverna dropped off the money."


[24-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
>vacation to Russia


[24-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
*putin spy intensifies*


[24-Dec-18 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it's possible or even legal to have a president that doesn't have a cabinet


[24-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/422690-supreme-court-halts-contempt-order-against-mystery-company-fighting-subpoena

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https://thehill.com/regulation/422690-supreme-court-halts-contempt-order-against-mystery-company-fighting-subpoena
Supreme Court halts contempt order against mystery company fightin...
The Supreme Court is putting on hold a contempt order against an unnamed company fighting a subpoena in a mystery case with possible ties to special counsel Robert Mueller.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/robertsjohn_012814gn.jpg


[24-Dec-18 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/roberts-mueller-subpoena-justice-1074810

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/23/roberts-mueller-subpoena-justice-1074810
Chief Justice Roberts issues stay in case of unknown subpoena
The mysterious case seems to involve special counsel Robert Mueller.
https://static.politico.com/5e/e2/2cea9c2048b8b1bc10d1f2dc6242/181223-roberts-ap-773.jpg


[24-Dec-18 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
who funded the french revolution?


[24-Dec-18 06:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
more like a lack of funding started it.


[24-Dec-18 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Soros


[24-Dec-18 06:29 AM] Arvid#8335
Wrong, they started a kickstarter campaign to get funding


[24-Dec-18 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that there's both a gofundme for trump's wall and one for ladders to get over trump's wall


[24-Dec-18 06:35 AM] Angrybro#0750
i don't fucking get stingy rich people, they have all the fucking money they could ever want use barely any. what the fucks the point?


[24-Dec-18 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
humans are greedy assholes


[24-Dec-18 06:38 AM] Angrybro#0750
i mean i've basicly homeless for over a decade so obviously i wouldn't get the subtle nuances of those better than me. being so rich must be so stressful.


[24-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Angrybro#0750
so fuck me right? i should stop being poor.


[24-Dec-18 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
we should revolt against the rich and take their wealth


[24-Dec-18 06:43 AM] Angrybro#0750
hang trump by his tacky neckties.


[24-Dec-18 06:44 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Dec-18 06:46 AM] Mikey#7286
let's put him on mars without a helmet


[24-Dec-18 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
too expensive


[24-Dec-18 06:47 AM] Angrybro#0750
drown him in pumpkin innards.


[24-Dec-18 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/doOscE6.png

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https://i.imgur.com/doOscE6.png


[24-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The French Revolution was like


[24-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone was mad cause France was broke


[24-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
slaves were mad cause they were slaves


[24-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Catholic Church was mad because not everyone was Catholic or obeying their will without question


[24-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracy advocates were mad cause France was monarchist


[24-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobles were the only ones not mad...and then in an attempt to make less people mad, France started stripping them and church officials of their absolutely ridiculous privileges


[24-Dec-18 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time reforms were in place such that France could actually become kinda Democratic, some guy called Robespierre seized power with the replacement of the temporary legislature with a slightly-less-temporary one, strongarmed them into executing the king (who didn't like most of the reforms, but was more concerned with all the uprisings and a big damn war on France's eastern borders partially caused by nations that thought it best to invade France to KEEP IT MONARCHIST)


[24-Dec-18 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then he went around executing anyone he didn't like until they turned it around and executed him, and then oh hey Napoleon...


[24-Dec-18 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and the slaves got so mad, they revolted, which made everyone more broke.


[24-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/MJrHvMH

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She's retarded
https://i.imgur.com/lPj2tsch.jpg


[24-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
old but gold


[24-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/gKToofx.jpg

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https://imgur.com/gKToofx
https://i.imgur.com/gKToofx.jpg


[24-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/CykP3gg.png

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https://imgur.com/CykP3gg
https://i.imgur.com/CykP3gg.png


[24-Dec-18 07:12 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I keep seeing older people keep generalizing millenials as weak, entitled people


[24-Dec-18 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
all generations are shit


[24-Dec-18 07:13 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well the world's changed since your era, you old bloke, so it would do well to change with the times and not act like a fucking drill sergeant, you old stubborn piece of ****!


[24-Dec-18 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[24-Dec-18 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
Porkies BTFO


[24-Dec-18 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/OQjreDY.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/OQjreDY.jpg


[24-Dec-18 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://qz.com/1364947/more-than-300000-refugees-have-now-found-jobs-in-germany/

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More than 300,000 refugees have now found jobs in Germany
The key was learning the language.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/h_53163680.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[24-Dec-18 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
lmao https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/422676-corker-fires-back-at-trump-calls-him-out-for-saying-mexico-would-pay-for

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Corker responds to Trump tweet: 'Alert the daycare staff'
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) blasted President Trump on Sunday after Trump claimed that the Republican was forced to retire after not getting the president's support.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldtwo_12202018wh.jpg


[24-Dec-18 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/1076935303158476800

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Senator Bob Corker (@SenBobCorker)
https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/1076935303158476800
Yes, just like Mexico is paying for the wall... #AlertTheDaycareStaff https://t.co/4LwrkrSFFr
Retweets
15033
Likes
58873
Twitter


[24-Dec-18 03:37 PM] moonatik#3676
thoughts on the british monarchy? i myself have become increasingly more republican (not the american kind) over time


[24-Dec-18 03:38 PM] moonatik#3676
i'm at the point where my preferred course of action would be to abolish the monarchy and to take all their stuff


[24-Dec-18 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The monarchy has no real power and makes the country a whole lot of money through tourism, PR, and diplomatic faff


[24-Dec-18 03:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Who gets all their stuff?


[24-Dec-18 03:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're more "ambassadors for life" than any sort of autocrat


[24-Dec-18 03:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiE2DLqJB8U
Abolish the Monarchy! - A response to CGP Grey
I give Jen no direction, with regards to the thumbnails. She just does whatever. Contact: https://twitter.com/shaun_jen https://curiouscat.me/Shaun_Jen https...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yiE2DLqJB8U/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Dec-18 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're no different from the kardashians or whatever other idiot famous person of the month is in the US


[24-Dec-18 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, they live in a privileged bubble


[24-Dec-18 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But that supports a whole network of jobs and industries


[24-Dec-18 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What do you care more about, the people that put food on the table for their families thanks to the tourism the monarchy brings, or spite against a few dozen individuals that "don't really work"?


[24-Dec-18 03:59 PM] ononim#8141
>tourism monarcgy brings


[24-Dec-18 03:59 PM] ononim#8141
France has more toursits than UK


[24-Dec-18 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
Palaces won't become less interesating because there VIPs living in the other wing of it that is closed to visitors because of it


[24-Dec-18 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
France has art


[24-Dec-18 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And a beautiful countryside


[24-Dec-18 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
UK is a fucking wasteland


[24-Dec-18 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There is absolutely nothing in the UK worth of note outside of the monarchy


[24-Dec-18 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A few ancient ruins here and there


[24-Dec-18 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise, their entire tourism industry depends on the crown


[24-Dec-18 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, the crown and all the stolen shit they took from other countries


[24-Dec-18 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
You underestimate the toursit atraction "ruins"


[24-Dec-18 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
most tourist atractions are "ruins"


[24-Dec-18 04:05 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the UK caused more damage worldwide than the total combined GDP of the planet could fix


[24-Dec-18 04:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You underestimate that I lived in the UK


[24-Dec-18 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
also what the fuck, discord put up a stupid present to try and get me to "gift" people their useless subscription


[24-Dec-18 04:08 PM] ononim#8141
Oh look, Germany has almost as many toursists as UK, while not being "Art" capital of the world and not having Kaiser


[24-Dec-18 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Beautiful countryside and WW2 shit


[24-Dec-18 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think you understand how much of a wasteland the UK is


[24-Dec-18 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a shitty place full of shitty people


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Take away their one last little bit of national pride and it may as well be bielorussia


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
Legit not to antagonize and just ponder, is WW2 shit a sizeble portion of tourist atraction to Krauts outside of werhaboos?


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
How dare you


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's loads of WW2 and jewish museums everywhere


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
Belorussia has a beautiful countryside too


[24-Dec-18 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
along with the last European relict forest


[24-Dec-18 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What little isn't about WW2 is about the cold war


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
(also I am pretty sure Scotalnd, Wales and Cornwall has a lot of pretty nice views, but if we speak about England proper, fair)


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
huh


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then there's a giant skip to the 1700s for a few things down south near France


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
maybe I do have interest different form average tourist


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
Becuase shit I think about "tourist atraction to Germany" is cultural shit well before 20th century


[24-Dec-18 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
the UK is what americans think of when they think of castles and kings and queens and stuff


[24-Dec-18 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
and romanticizing medieval times in general


[24-Dec-18 04:13 PM] ononim#8141
(also, again, not to antogonize but geniunie curious, how much of King toursit atraction argument is popular in Spain?)


[24-Dec-18 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of what americans think of is actually, like, Belgium, Austria, or France


[24-Dec-18 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Very fucking little


[24-Dec-18 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's the Zarzuela palace and that's it


[24-Dec-18 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spaniards hate the monarchy as an institution


[24-Dec-18 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they respect the retired king for helping to bring democracy


[24-Dec-18 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the current king for being "an OK guy"


[24-Dec-18 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They also aren't even a 100th as ostentatious as the UK monarchy


[24-Dec-18 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't sit on thrones or wear crowns or have parades


[24-Dec-18 04:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
France get visitors to the place of the beheading. UK could do the same. "Come see the place we beheaded the Queen"-UK tourism companies probably.


[24-Dec-18 04:19 PM] ononim#8141
They actually can do that rn


[24-Dec-18 04:19 PM] ononim#8141
visitors to the place of the beheading I mean


[24-Dec-18 04:19 PM] ononim#8141
they actually legit guilotined their king like a century before France


[24-Dec-18 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The tower of london is exactly that


[24-Dec-18 04:20 PM] ononim#8141
they just had the "best" of luck to run into Cromwell imediatly afterwards


[24-Dec-18 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the tourism place that focuses on all the beheaded queens


[24-Dec-18 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're so fucking proud of it


[24-Dec-18 04:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They could add another head to their collection.


[24-Dec-18 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We had this king that had such a small dick that no queen loved him, but he couldn't get a divorce, so he had his wives killed instead so he could remarry"


[24-Dec-18 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's literally how the anglican church was started


[24-Dec-18 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he got tired of murdering his wives and wanted a religion where he could divorce at will


[24-Dec-18 04:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Henry 8. Wives kept having girls instead of boys so instead of trying again he got a new wife.


[24-Dec-18 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That is the foundation of the current leading UK religion


[24-Dec-18 04:54 PM] moonatik#3676
yeah no


[24-Dec-18 04:54 PM] moonatik#3676
as someone who's lived in the UK their whole damn life i can tell you it's not a shithole full of shitty people, thanks


[24-Dec-18 04:55 PM] moonatik#3676
and honestly even if the monarchy did bring tourist money then i still wouldn't want them around simply for democratic principles


[24-Dec-18 04:57 PM] moonatik#3676
we don't need to be footing their multi million pound bill to bring tourist money


[24-Dec-18 04:58 PM] Mikey#7286
The royal family is basically a bunch of celebs with no real power these days anyway, the prime minister makes all the decisions


[24-Dec-18 04:59 PM] moonatik#3676
it's not the political power aspect that annoys me, it's the fact that they're getting paid with taxpayer money for being born into the right incestuous family of aristocrats


[24-Dec-18 05:00 PM] moonatik#3676
and if they do have no political power then what's the point in keeping them around?


[24-Dec-18 05:02 PM] moonatik#3676
also in that video that ghey agenda posted, it has a clip of the queen making a pro-austerity speech while sitting atop a golden throne and wearing a hat with one of the world's largest diamonds in it


[24-Dec-18 05:02 PM] moonatik#3676
which just sums it all up really


[24-Dec-18 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As someone that's lived in multiple countries and continents, the UK is bottom tier in the "1st world" list


[24-Dec-18 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
>US exist


[24-Dec-18 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
>UK is bottom tier in the "1st world" list


[24-Dec-18 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
pick one


[24-Dec-18 05:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't see how these exclude eachother


[24-Dec-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are tied


[24-Dec-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bottom tier doesnt mean at the very bottom


[24-Dec-18 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can have mroe thna one bottom tier coutnry


[24-Dec-18 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that the US is massive, has innumerable places of otherworldly beauty, plenty of places with kind and welcoming people, and a mostly functioning bureaucracy


[24-Dec-18 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just wish those places of toher worldly beauty werent under constant threat form land development and mining companies


[24-Dec-18 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Obviously everything good about it is offset massively by the political system and retarded "socialism is EVIL" crap


[24-Dec-18 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
mostly functioning is pushing it in some states


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
I legit kinda trust our cops more than USs tbh


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
I guarantee that some states are worse than the UK


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mostly functioning beats completely useless but somehow proud of it


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
at least here if you keep your head down you won't be shot by them out of blue moon


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No Crow, no


[24-Dec-18 05:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bureaucracy in the UK is a thing of nightmares


[24-Dec-18 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's everywhere in society, to a hilariously dark level


[24-Dec-18 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i get wary everytime i see a sheriffs car and i;m not evne black


[24-Dec-18 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The sort where you watch movies that make fun of it, and you think it's a joke, but the reality is worse


[24-Dec-18 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're massively prideful of how bureaucratically run the country is


[24-Dec-18 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're /awful/ at it


[24-Dec-18 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
so, like germany but bad?


[24-Dec-18 05:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Germany is NOWHERE near as heavy on the paperwork


[24-Dec-18 05:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the pencil pushers and rubberstamping and waiting in queues and other nonsense


[24-Dec-18 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the uk is liek a dmv ons teroids then?


[24-Dec-18 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
incompetent, weirdly proud, slow as shit, and will probably close before you ever get to filign the paper work


[24-Dec-18 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If the DMV involves waiting in line to take a number to be allowed into a room to wait in a queue to hand over a 3-page form and then wait in another queue to pay a fee and get a receipt so you can wait in another queue to get a document signed so you can go back home and wait for a letter with another form so you can mail that form and wait a month so you can get told /you don't exist/ but owe the council money because /they/ missed a deadline handling some other form


[24-Dec-18 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then yes I guess it's like the DMV


[24-Dec-18 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly liek a DMV


[24-Dec-18 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on steroids


[24-Dec-18 05:32 PM] moonatik#3676
again


[24-Dec-18 05:32 PM] moonatik#3676
yeah, no


[24-Dec-18 05:32 PM] moonatik#3676
everything you just said was false


[24-Dec-18 05:33 PM] moonatik#3676
there might be situations caused by our shitty government similar to that (the hostile enviroment shit comes to mind) but it's nowhere near that bad for most people


[24-Dec-18 05:35 PM] moonatik#3676
the UK is far from perfect and definitely behind many other countries, but you're overexaggerating how bad it is


[24-Dec-18 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess I and most people I know that lived or continue to live in the UK are bizarrely unlucky


[24-Dec-18 05:36 PM] moonatik#3676
well as someone who's lived here my whole life i can assure you i don't personally know anybody who's lived like that


[24-Dec-18 05:37 PM] moonatik#3676
and i'm not in some wealthy upper class echelon of society, hell i'm near the poverty line


[24-Dec-18 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I lived their for almost ten years, I'm close friends with people that've lived their their whole lives, and coworker with several that've lived their most of theirs


[24-Dec-18 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We all have similar stories


[24-Dec-18 05:38 PM] moonatik#3676
either way anecdotes can only get either of us so far


[24-Dec-18 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Inefficient, overbearing, pervasive bureaucracy, chavs, and garbage


[24-Dec-18 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And terrible weather, of course


[24-Dec-18 05:38 PM] moonatik#3676
>implying other countries don't have those things


[24-Dec-18 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not to the same level, or anywhere near it, no


[24-Dec-18 05:39 PM] moonatik#3676
from my personal anecdotal and unrepresentative experience, that isn't the case


[24-Dec-18 05:40 PM] moonatik#3676
and from your personal anecdotal and unrepresentative experience, perhaps it is


[24-Dec-18 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
From my experience living in the US, Spain, Germany, Turkey, and the UK, all in various cities and regions in each, UK's the worst


[24-Dec-18 05:41 PM] moonatik#3676
even still it all depends on what part of the country you're referring to


[24-Dec-18 05:42 PM] moonatik#3676
i'm sure someone who lived in a baltimore ghetto and then moved to plymouth would tell you that the UK is better


[24-Dec-18 05:42 PM] moonatik#3676
but again, that's just another anecdotal and unrepresentative experience


[24-Dec-18 05:43 PM] moonatik#3676
generally you cant infer something about an entire fucking country of over 60 million people from just that


[24-Dec-18 05:45 PM] moonatik#3676
i once had a hard time when i went to hamburg so it's only logical for me to now assume that all 80 million germans are terrible people and the entire country is a shithole


[24-Dec-18 05:45 PM] moonatik#3676
(but y'see the thing is, it ain't)


[24-Dec-18 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I lived in liverpool (the good part and the bad part and so-so part), Oxford proper, a town near Oxford, and spent ample time in Manchester, Newcastle, London, and Portsmouth


[24-Dec-18 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't just spend a few weeks siteseeing


[24-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Believe what you will


[24-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only people more obstinate than americans (which I am) about how great their country is are brits


[24-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And norks, I guess


[24-Dec-18 05:49 PM] moonatik#3676
that i can probably agree with


[24-Dec-18 05:49 PM] moonatik#3676
probably why 52% of voters thought that we could totally own the entire EU


[24-Dec-18 05:51 PM] moonatik#3676
actually now that i bring up brexit i do see what you mean with shitty inefficient govt lol


[24-Dec-18 06:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077064829825966081

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President @RT_Erdogan of Turkey has very strongly informed me that he will eradicate whatever is left of ISIS in Syria....and he is a man who can do it plus, Turkey is right “next door.” Our troops are coming home!
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[24-Dec-18 06:01 PM] ononim#8141

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[24-Dec-18 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the kurds are isis now, got it

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[24-Dec-18 09:23 PM] moonatik#3676
my god he's actually retarded


[24-Dec-18 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really is


[24-Dec-18 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has the brain of an entitled child who got everythign he ever wanted through playground bullying and his "friends" who are the russian,chinese,italian, and japanese mafias


[24-Dec-18 10:10 PM] Arvid#8335
Ah, I worry greatly for the Kurds.


[24-Dec-18 10:12 PM] Arvid#8335
At first I didn't think Trump pulling out of Syria seemed so bad, but after inspecting further, I think the real reason Trump pulled out was because Erdogan wanted to make it easier for himself to genocide the Kurds.


[24-Dec-18 10:12 PM] Arvid#8335
So he convinced Trump that it was the right thing to pull out.


[24-Dec-18 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
What we need is for the PKK to initiate a renewed front in Turkey while they're busy in Syria, and while that's happening a sudden invasion by Armenia to reclaim their lost territory.


[24-Dec-18 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
And while this is happening, the Greeks might work up the nerve to take back Constantinople.


[24-Dec-18 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
And Cyprus will invade its northern half


[24-Dec-18 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
If you let Trump with Khomeini in one room for a hour, he would go out of it proclaring US as Shia islamic Republic


[24-Dec-18 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Paradox war-time rules.


[24-Dec-18 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Always attack the big nation currently at war.


[25-Dec-18 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077255770725601280

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I am all alone (poor me) in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come back and make a deal on desperately needed Border Security. At some point the Democrats not wanting to make a deal will cost our Country more money than the Border Wall we are all talking about. ...
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[25-Dec-18 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhiel the picture he posted has him signing a blank sheet of paper


[25-Dec-18 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh poor yout hat you are doing ypour job for fucking once isntead of golfing


[25-Dec-18 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TamaraLChambers/status/1077335820183384064

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https://twitter.com/TamaraLChambers/status/1077335820183384064
@realDonaldTrump Three spirits will visit you tonight. The ghost of cheating on your wife and then using campaign money to cover that shit up, the ghost of being bankrupt nine times, and the ghost of big words that you can’t read. OOohHOOooHhhoo!
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[25-Dec-18 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[25-Dec-18 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does cadet daiper spurs want a cookie for his effort?


[25-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-tax-bill-is-one-year-old-here-are-the-winners-and-losers/

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The tax law is 1 year old -- here are the winners and losers
President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act nearly a year ago -- so has it lived up to its billing?
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/12/21/93bda1e1-9097-448b-8a41-8f989f51c571/thumbnail/1200x630/010754fb5bc876af4292ca5b628e8cc7/gettyimages-897796656.jpg


[25-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr it robs from the poor to giv to the rich


[25-Dec-18 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
reverse robin hood


[25-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/first-time-20-years-copyrighted-works-enter-public-domain-180971016/

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For the First Time in More Than 20 Years, Copyrighted Works Will E...
A beloved Robert Frost poem is among the many creations that are (finally) losing their protections in 2019


[25-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Disney


[25-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk it hard.


[25-Dec-18 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're definitely going to get it extended again before 2024


[25-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
to prevent Mickey from going public domain


[25-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[25-Dec-18 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl kidnap their lobbyists


[25-Dec-18 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
Time to skin the Mouse


[25-Dec-18 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kidnap their lawyers and lobbyists


[25-Dec-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne eat them


[25-Dec-18 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's our answer to every problem now. we eat them


[25-Dec-18 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This isn't a vore server


[25-Dec-18 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656

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[25-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
no


[25-Dec-18 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
!c vore


[25-Dec-18 02:55 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[25-Dec-18 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fine heads on pikes it is


[25-Dec-18 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Arvid that's your book


[25-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Arvid#8335
Yes, yes!


[25-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Arvid#8335
Taking “eat the rich” to the next level


[25-Dec-18 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
savor the rich


[25-Dec-18 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/HfFm6Aw.jpg

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[25-Dec-18 04:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Good job 👏 🙄


[25-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tNLL6UP.png

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[25-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder what it's like


[25-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
being this stupid


[25-Dec-18 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
"They're doing such a good job I decided to stop paying them until I get the wall that I literally just said we don't need"


[25-Dec-18 05:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oof


[25-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...wait, how can he even fathom even saying that


[25-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"we need a wall"


[25-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"btw our border is tight"


[25-Dec-18 05:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I... I can't 😶


[25-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want strong border controls


[25-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just give border guards bigger guns?


[25-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A stationary wall is less effective than that


[25-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, really, completely open borders is best


[25-Dec-18 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
trump is literally retarded


[25-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
obviously need 24/7 helicopter and jet patrols with ASMs to bomb those bastards


[25-Dec-18 05:06 AM] Denk#5891
isn't shooting undocumented dudes a human rights violation?


[25-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US abides by the worst motto I can ever fathom in terms of cringe


[25-Dec-18 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The wolf does not care what the sheep think"


[25-Dec-18 05:11 AM] Denk#5891
Come to think about has there ever been a crowdfund government project?


[25-Dec-18 05:12 AM] Denk#5891
successful that is


[25-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Honahue#0656
taxes


[25-Dec-18 05:13 AM] Honahue#0656
taxes are government crowd funding


[25-Dec-18 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
In any case, if that GoFundMe for the wall goes through the money may not actually be used to build the wall. It'll go into a general fun for whatever Congress wants.


[25-Dec-18 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
It could very well go to replacing water pipes in America's poorest communities


[25-Dec-18 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or building a LGBT hospital for persecuted minorities or two, or three of these hospitals.


[25-Dec-18 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
It could be spent on infrastructural improvements, perhaps on the Indian reservation.


[25-Dec-18 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or anything.


[25-Dec-18 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
It'll be five billion - if they do it - towards a general congressional fund


[25-Dec-18 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/world/americas/mexico-helicopter-crash.html

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Mexico Helicopter Crash Kills Governor and Her Husband, an Ex-Governor
Martha Erika Alonso, the governor of Puebla, and Rafael Moreno Valle, who once led the same state, were among at least five people who died.
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[25-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
The estimate to fix the pipes in Flint was like $55 mil which would be a fraction of the 1 billion they want to raise for a wall


[25-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
actually it's exactly 0.55% of a billion


[25-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
5.5%


[25-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
you sure? 1000 million is a billion


[25-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
a billion is 10^9


[25-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
ur right


[25-Dec-18 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
a million is 10^6


[25-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
missed a digit


[25-Dec-18 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
10 million is 10^7


[25-Dec-18 06:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
One million million is a billion, like it's hard to comprehend having that much money, let alone using it


[25-Dec-18 06:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
And yet the crime of individuals having that much exists


[25-Dec-18 06:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
Multiple even


[25-Dec-18 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J6BQDKiYyM

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Reckful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J6BQDKiYyM
What 1 billion looks like - One billion dollars
What 1 billion dollars looks like. me: http://twitter.com/ByronBernstein
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0J6BQDKiYyM/hqdefault.jpg


[25-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
oh that's reckful


[25-Dec-18 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
he got permabanned from world of warcraft for piloting lol


[25-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do they?


[25-Dec-18 07:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In English billion is a thousand million


[25-Dec-18 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales#Current_usage

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The long and short scales are two of several large-number naming systems for integer powers of ten that use the same words with different meanings. The long scale is based on powers of one million, whereas the short scale is based on powers of one thousand. The short scale ha...


[25-Dec-18 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
>antarctica uses both scales


[25-Dec-18 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
lolwut


[25-Dec-18 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
both short and long scale use million


[25-Dec-18 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
as 10^6


[25-Dec-18 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
but a billion in short scale is 10^9 and a billion in long scale is 10^12


[25-Dec-18 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
a milliard in long scale is 10^9


[25-Dec-18 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
so in long scale it goes million, milliard, billion, billiard, trillion, trilliard, etc


[25-Dec-18 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
while the equivalents in short scale are million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, etc


[25-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
short scale is better for "small" big numbers


[25-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
long scale is better for "bigger" big numbers


[25-Dec-18 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
number naming starts getting really weird after decillion


[25-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46678124

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46678124
Trump to boy: Do you believe in Santa?
The US president asked the question to a child who called the White House on Christmas Eve.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/F888/production/_104942636_mediaitem104942635.jpg


[25-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's not scrooge


[25-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's not a baron of scrooges


[25-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's not the king of scrooges


[25-Dec-18 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's the fucking emperor of all scrooges


[25-Dec-18 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8PiKuIarA&t=43

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CBS Los Angeles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC8PiKuIarA&t=43
Trump Asks 7-Year-Old NORAD Caller If He Believes In Santa
A child called in to NORAD's Santa tracker hotline on Christmas Eve and got an unusual question from President Donald Trump.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zC8PiKuIarA/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Dec-18 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Are you still a believer in Santa?"


[25-Dec-18 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRS4oaQqXbw&t=35

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Global News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRS4oaQqXbw&t=35
Trump tells 7-year-old boy that believing in Santa at his age is ...
It was the night before Christmas, and U.S. President Donald Trump was on the phone with children, peppering them with questions about whether they were look...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZRS4oaQqXbw/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Dec-18 10:08 AM] moonatik#3676
I'm starting to believe the idea that he may be a kids movie villain now


[25-Dec-18 10:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-22/license-to-kill-policing-to-get-a-trial-run-in-rio-de-janeiro


[25-Dec-18 11:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is every villain from a kids movie ever rolled into one


[25-Dec-18 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack/attack-on-government-building-in-afghan-capital-leaves-43-dead-official-idUSKCN1OO07B

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Attack on government building in Afghan capital leaves 43 dead:...
Afghan authorities on Tuesday collected 43 bodies from a government compound in ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181225&t=2&i=1338790335&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEBO05J


[25-Dec-18 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
afghanistan will be the next iraq after oompa troompa has the US flee from the area


[25-Dec-18 05:42 PM] moonatik#3676

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[25-Dec-18 05:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ubisoft once told us that playable female characters in games cost more money, but Nintendo proves them wrong again by adding male and female Brexit into Smash


[25-Dec-18 05:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Crow 

It's okay, russians will just move in most likely.


[25-Dec-18 05:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Marukomuru 

Boobs jiggle animation?


[25-Dec-18 07:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Actually boob jiggle is bad because Capcom USA said so


[25-Dec-18 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capcom usa is a liar


[26-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ha2bLmp.jpg

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[26-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://simpleflying.com/inside-the-worlds-first-christian-airline/

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A Look At The World's First Christian Airline
Today is Christmas Day, and what better time to take a look at yet another bizarre startup airline. Judah 1
https://simpleflying.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/judah-1-md85-n83gf-1.jpg


[26-Dec-18 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a Christian airline sir, no swearing

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[26-Dec-18 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what makes it different form other airlines is that it shows terrible shristmas movies 365


[26-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/25/680066848/8-year-old-migrant-boy-dies-in-government-custody-in-new-mexico-hospital

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8-Year-Old Migrant Boy Dies In Government Custody In New Mexico Ho...
The Guatemalan child died after midnight on Tuesday in Alamogordo, N.M. He's the second child to die in U.S. Customs and Border Protection custody this month.
https://media.npr.org/include/images/facebook-default-wide.jpg?s=1400


[26-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/world/africa/sudan-bashir-protest.html

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/world/africa/sudan-bashir-protest.html
Sudanese Police Try to Break Up Swelling Protests Against Bashir
The police used tear gas and fired in the air to try to disperse thousands of protesters calling on Omar Hassan al-Bashir, Sudan’s president of 29 years, to step down.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/26/us/politics/26SUDAN-promo/merlin_148492215_9d39f443-d32c-48e7-a081-05e3a2c3cb0b-facebookJumbo.jpg


[26-Dec-18 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/25/the-kurds-and-trumps-syria-withdrawal

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The Kurds and Trump’s Syria withdrawal | Letters
Letters: Readers respond to the US president’s decision to bring the troops home
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[26-Dec-18 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
Trump’s ordering the withdrawal of US troops from Syria, in the very week that Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s president, has declared his intent to attack the enclave of Rojava, is a shocking betrayal of the Kurds, until now armed and supported by the US, who have been successfully fighting Isis in Syrian towns and villages throughout this conflict.


[26-Dec-18 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46682666

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Syria says Israel strikes hit weapons depot
Israel has not confirmed the strikes in Syria, but says its air defences fired on a Syrian missile.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/0630/production/_104948510_13621a8a-3c35-45d7-8523-5a4b4e79926c.jpg


[26-Dec-18 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Dec-18 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2018/12/25/christmas-trump-vows/

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On Christmas, Trump vows to keep the federal government shut down ...
Washington • President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he intends to keep the federal government closed until he secures the desired funding from Congress for his promised border wall and claimed that “many” federal workers have urged him to continue the shutdown because...
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[26-Dec-18 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you


[26-Dec-18 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yes many federal workers have claimed they dont want their wages and a decent life for thme and their families if it means no border wall


[26-Dec-18 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-first-president-15-years-not-visit-troops-during-christmas-period-1271308

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Trump is first president in 15 years to not visit troops during Ch...
Donald Trump used a phone call to military troops to reassert his position on the partial government shutdown.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/12/26/gettyimages-1074777046.jpg


[26-Dec-18 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see this shut down going at least half a year


[26-Dec-18 05:23 PM] Litrojia#0612
If the investigations don't do it first, this will kill his chance of reelection if he holds out much longer


[26-Dec-18 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's gone into full baby mode so i doubt he's going to budge on this until the economy and government falls entirely appart


[26-Dec-18 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he made bigger promises than he could keep during his campaign , he also likely accrued large debts to russia and saudi arabia during his campaign as well so he's desperate to force things to happen or he risks some pretty bad consequences


[26-Dec-18 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has the FBI,russia, china, and saudi arabia on his ass,  as well as other federal investigations and several dozen government programs breathing down his neck


[26-Dec-18 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the NRA, the neo nazis, the kkk, and other republican bases he probably doesnt agree with but has to keep in good faith with or else his entire tower falls to pieces in a flaming pile.


[26-Dec-18 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically he;s a 72 year old flaming baby who shit himself uncontrollably


[26-Dec-18 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently he did make it to Iraq today


[26-Dec-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he did?


[26-Dec-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46687909

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Trumps greet US troops in Iraq
The US leader and first lady make an unannounced Christmas visit to US service personnel.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/8B3D/production/_104954653_mediaitem104954652.jpg


[26-Dec-18 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he did


[26-Dec-18 10:13 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Everyone is already calling that he’s only doing this because he’s been getting a ton of bad press the last few weeks


[26-Dec-18 10:14 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
And are expecting him to go straight to Mar-a-Lago after this


[26-Dec-18 10:14 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Especially given Melania is with him


[26-Dec-18 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan is going to restart whaling


[26-Dec-18 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[26-Dec-18 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes they are


[26-Dec-18 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one liked this news


[26-Dec-18 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They know they can get away with it because (1) Japanese products will never stop being bought, (2) Any US administration wouldn't question them, and (3) when all else fails, bring up being nuked as if that is somehow justification


[26-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When a Japanese nationalist says "Hiroshima and Nagasaki," say "Nanjing and Bataan."


[26-Dec-18 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to Trump being a villain for kids, well yes, he's basically Flim or Flam mixed with a disney villain.


[26-Dec-18 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You just reminded me how the no fun people hate S8 because of "politics"


[26-Dec-18 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And how another was upset that a xenophobic racist learned being a xenophobic racist was bad, but the totally innocent nonterrorist child doesn't deserve prison


[26-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So many people just want ORANGE MAN GOOD


[26-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly, the Sherlock Holmes movie that came out had cringy Trump jokes supposedly


[26-Dec-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the comedy one with ben stiller?


[26-Dec-18 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it ben stiller?


[26-Dec-18 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while i think neighsay's redemption coudl have been handled just a little slower with like an extra scene. they didnt do terribly and thye have season 9 to flesh it out. meanwhile yes cozy glow deserves all the prison


[26-Dec-18 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422854-daughters-of-queens-podiatrist-and-fred-trump-tenant-say-father

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Daughters of NY podiatrist allege he helped Trump avoid Vietnam Wa...
A New York podiatrist may have given President Trump the bone spurs diagnosis that helped him avoid military service as a favor to Trump’s father,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_100418getty_0.jpg


[27-Dec-18 12:19 AM] moonatik#3676
dow jones recovered 1,000 points and is still climbing


[27-Dec-18 12:19 AM] moonatik#3676
guess the crash will come at another date


[27-Dec-18 12:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
dead cat bounce


[27-Dec-18 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give it a moment


[27-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
Hey #politics , watch this https://youtu.be/4zH9Zca1vRM

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KNOWER MUSIC
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NEW ALBUM NOW: https://www.tinyurl.com/KnowerLife Instagram: @KNOWER_music Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KNOWERmusic/ Video by Louis Cole, Genevieve Art...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4zH9Zca1vRM/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Dec-18 12:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
that and it's plunge protection gang


[27-Dec-18 12:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're only ever effective for a bit


[27-Dec-18 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market isnt the economy. a plunge protector wont do shit if all the cahs in your safe is worthless


[27-Dec-18 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt hlep that each day the government is shut down for a stupid fuckign wall our country goes further into debt by hundreds of thousands


[27-Dec-18 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/09/12/business/the-next-recession-financial-crisis.html

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The Next Financial Calamity Is Coming. Here’s What to Watch.
Fast-growing pockets of debt could be a source of trouble.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/09/10/us/financial-crisis-warning-signs-promo-1536598231747/financial-crisis-warning-signs-promo-1536598231747-facebookJumbo.png


[27-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's a $9 trillion corporate debt bubble atm


[27-Dec-18 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
if that thing pops, it's gonna be like a thermonuclear bomb to the economy


[27-Dec-18 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's what happens when you rely on the constipation system


[27-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Universities need to scale back massively


[27-Dec-18 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of the cost comes from having to provide an "experience" of going to college


[27-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Recreational facilities etc


[27-Dec-18 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
or stop paying sports coaches millions of dollars every year


[27-Dec-18 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not as much of it as the amenities treadmill of competition


[27-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe you don't need a 250 million dollar rec center or a decked out student union


[27-Dec-18 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But you have to have it because the other schools do


[27-Dec-18 01:35 AM] Honahue#0656
amenities treadmill is a thing but I think a bigger issue is the admin side of academia, it's about making money not educating people, sports bring in a lot of money and athletes are fcuking cheap because even a full ride tuition is generally a full time min wage salary and if they get injured oh well sucks for them


[27-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656
or foreign students from rich parents that lie on their transcripts to get in and while some effort is made colleges love that foreign students pay higher tuition and fees


[27-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/how-sophisticated-test-scams-from-china-are-making-their-way-into-the-us/474474/

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How Sophisticated Test Scams From China Are Making Their Way Into ...
Chinese students hire imposter “gunmen” to take the SAT, the GRE and other tests.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2016/03/AP_377374190109/facebook.jpg?1522795896


[27-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the real reason why so many americans hate/mistrust the government is because the government lets companies walk all over average citizens


[27-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't happen in EU countries


[27-Dec-18 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a major reason yeah


[27-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/iraq-trump-hats-us-troops-maga/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/iraq-trump-hats-us-troops-maga/index.html
Troops bringing Trump hats to sign may violate military rule
President Donald Trump made his first visit to a war zone on Wednesday, receiving an enthusiastic reception from many US troops there -- some of whom may have run afoul of military rules.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181226150513-05-trump-in-iraq-1226-super-tease.jpg


[27-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
Video footage and the written report of Trump's visit with service members in Iraq showed the President signing "Make America Great Again" hats and an embroidered patch that read "Trump 2020."


[27-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
Those guidelines say that "active duty personnel may not engage in partisan political activities and all military personnel should avoid the inference that their political activities imply or appear to imply DoD sponsorship, approval, or endorsement of a political candidate, campaign, or cause."


[27-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ the guy's a walking government violation


[27-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Barely politics related but the PlayStation Classic console dropped $30 in less than a month


[27-Dec-18 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I just saw someone call it "the Jeb Bush of classic consoles"


[27-Dec-18 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it woudl have done better if they just kept the test games on it


[27-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make more money selling remakes


[27-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Spyro remake is great


[27-Dec-18 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But streamers hate it


[27-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Mattis was pretty qualified but even a 40 veteran of the Marines couldn't put up with Trump


[27-Dec-18 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
>when you're so awful a person Marines can't stand to be around you


[27-Dec-18 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
6 minutes into his stream of Spyro Vinny from Vinesauce had to ban the word "daddy"


[27-Dec-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is the bitch of russia and all of it;s allies


[27-Dec-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why?


[27-Dec-18 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spyro daddy


[27-Dec-18 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Spyro daddy OwO


[27-Dec-18 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of the people making the remake could explain how dragon eggs even exist considering there's not a female dragon shown until the third game IIRC


[27-Dec-18 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they reproduce by dading


[27-Dec-18 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
mpreg


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dragons clearly reproduce asexually.


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like that alien race in that 80's sci-fi game I guess my dad liked.


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
I forget the name, I think it was Enemy of Mine.


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
reproduction in the mlp universe is done by boops, in which a baby seed is automatically planted in the female


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
But basically there's an alien race with no biological race and they just randomly get pregnant


[27-Dec-18 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
the baby will be born when the plot calls for it by instantly teleporting out, all wrapped up


[27-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
no messy birth required


[27-Dec-18 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
and the mother will never show signs of being pregnant


[27-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Enemy Mine?


[27-Dec-18 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They asexually reproduced.


[27-Dec-18 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
ye


[27-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it was a movie


[27-Dec-18 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I only watched it once all of more than ten years ago


[27-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen it twice and can pretty much recite it by memory


[27-Dec-18 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a really good movie.


[27-Dec-18 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've never watched it but formt he soudns of it i should


[27-Dec-18 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr friendship > space fascism+slavery


[27-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but


[27-Dec-18 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When I watched Enders Game I had to stifle laughs in the theater because of the sympathy for the aliens they wanted people to have


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, sympathy for aliens but Card doesn't think gay people should exist


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is card and wat?


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The author of Ender's Game


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
apparently bug alien things with telepathy are okay to befriend


[27-Dec-18 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you like it in the butt, you're going to hell you inhuman scum


[27-Dec-18 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what if you like it in the mouth and not the butt?


[27-Dec-18 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is enders game good?


[27-Dec-18 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Card's personal opinions ruin it and the twist is lame


[27-Dec-18 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo card's personal opinions outside of the gay thing


[27-Dec-18 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've been wathcing to chekc out ready player one though


[27-Dec-18 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are some people super butthurt about that movie, idk why


[27-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does the movie even have the masturbation monologue in it


[27-Dec-18 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[27-Dec-18 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Book has like a whole page of the main character ruminating on how important it is to human invention


[27-Dec-18 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if it does it;s probably better incorporated to make it fit


[27-Dec-18 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the divergent movie is terrible...


[27-Dec-18 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it hits all the story beats but doesnt develop ahything along the way


[27-Dec-18 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the story beats just happen for no fuckign reason


[27-Dec-18 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[27-Dec-18 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
the book claims that masturbation is important for invention?


[27-Dec-18 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“I would argue that masturbation is the human animal's most important adaptation. The very cornerstone of our technological civilization. Our hands evolved to grip tools, all right—including our own. You see, thinkers, inventors, and scientists are usually geeks, and geeks have a harder time getting laid than anyone. Without the built-in sexual release valve provided by masturbation, it's doubtful that early humans would have ever mastered the secrets of fire or discovered the wheel. And you can bet that Galileo, Newton, and Einstein never would have made their discoveries if they hadn't first been able to clear their heads by slapping the salami (or "knocking a few protons off the old hydrogen atom"). The same goes for Marie Curie. Before she discovered radium, you can be certain she first discovered the little man in the canoe.”


[27-Dec-18 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
― Ernest Cline, Ready Player One


[27-Dec-18 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
I thought the topic was ender's game


[27-Dec-18 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was and then it moved to ready player one


[27-Dec-18 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but no enders game doesnt have a masturbation monologue


[27-Dec-18 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
I found this lol https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/28itwf/did_anyone_else_read_an_unusual_sexual_subtext_in/

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r/books - Did anyone else read an unusual sexual subtext in "Ender...
5 votes and 11 comments so far on Reddit


[27-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
(1) Battleroom = Battle womb, amirite? Seriously, it reads exactly like the two teams are a two teams of competing sperm trying to win by impregnation: "Quickly, everybody bumo your heads against the door, and then one of us can get through".


[27-Dec-18 03:32 AM] Honahue#0656
There was some fictional account of God and Satan talking after man landed on the moon and Satan said something about how he's was surprised humans accomplished anything with an orgasm dispenser in reach of their hands


[27-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-navy-seal-iraq-video-1272102

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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-navy-seal-iraq-video-1272102
Video posted to Donald Trump's Twitter account reveals covert U.S....
President Donald Trump and the White House communications team revealed a covert U.S. Navy SEAL deployment during the president's visit with U.S. troops in Iraq.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/12/26/trumpiraqseals.jpg


[27-Dec-18 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
President Donald Trump and the White House communications team revealed that a U.S. Navy SEAL team was deployed to Iraq after the president secretly traveled to the region to meet with American forces serving in a combat zone for the first time since being elected to office.


[27-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
...


[27-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
there's just no words to describe this


[27-Dec-18 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
it's like


[27-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's like everything he tries to do somehow ends up in causing a bigger problem


[27-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
I guess


[27-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
because he doesn't do anything by the rules


[27-Dec-18 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
and the rules were put in place specifically to prevent problems from happening


[27-Dec-18 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem has out grown the rules


[27-Dec-18 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is bungling things faster than the rules can correct


[27-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
no, he's not asking what the rules are to begin with and then says that since he didn't know what the rules are to begin with, he can't be punished for breaking them


[27-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
that's why he keeps firing people


[27-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
because they tell him what the rules are and what he can and can't do


[27-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
so if he doesn't have anyone who says he can't do something, he can do anything


[27-Dec-18 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
that's the idea, anyways


[27-Dec-18 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m half surprised the white house isnt on fire by now


[27-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
trump is actually trying to figure out how to become a dictator


[27-Dec-18 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
and the method he's currently attempting is firing people until no one questions him


[27-Dec-18 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
trump's not exactly the first president to attempt to take over everything, but he's the first that congress has basically been allowing him to try and find ways to do so unimpeded


[27-Dec-18 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would pence be worse or better thna trump?


[27-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Honahue#0656
he'd be more stable but about the same on policy


[27-Dec-18 04:08 AM] Honahue#0656
worse probably because he would get things done


[27-Dec-18 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
then Mitch McConnell would be president


[27-Dec-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking dammit


[27-Dec-18 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is he always the thorn in the side of everything


[27-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
no, speaker of the house is third in line


[27-Dec-18 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that still paul ryan right now or has he left?


[27-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[27-Dec-18 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
he'll be gone next year though


[27-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
and it's looking like pelosi will be the speaker... again


[27-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
even though nobody likes her


[27-Dec-18 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
she bribed a lot of potential competitors


[27-Dec-18 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greaat


[27-Dec-18 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes she did and it was painful to watch


[27-Dec-18 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ender's Game is basically taking the idea of child soldiers and mixing it with sci fi nonsense and a really dumb twist that makes 0 military sense


[27-Dec-18 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's get a bunch of 12 year olds to learn strategy in space, then hav them real-time remote-control a fleet, and then their graduation exam is actually wiping out the bugs that really just are afraid after a misunderstanding made us go exterminate them


[27-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh but it's okay because there's an egg from a single survivor of the race


[27-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
like wtf


[27-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
I thought the idea was that eventually humanity would've destroyed the bugs anyway


[27-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
but because the kid found the egg or whatever, they could repopulate in secret or from a position of power or something


[27-Dec-18 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the weirdest aspects of Starship Troopers without all the brutality and maturity and everything


[27-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't there time travel shenanigans too


[27-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
oh, time dilation


[27-Dec-18 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically the kid goes on to direct a revolution against the stupid assholery while everyone thinks he's been dead for centuries


[27-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
where the kid comes back with the bugs in a time centuries into the future when humans would be more accepting of the bugs


[27-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
complete with manipulating public opinion with a bit of blogging


[27-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really stupid


[27-Dec-18 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
time dilation blogging lmao


[27-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
No you like get yourself hundreds of years into the future and then make a tumblr and completely change the culture of humanity overnite


[27-Dec-18 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Films where public opinion is manipulated by a single instance of media such as a video, an inappropriate comment, a blog or vlog, etc., are instant dumb for me


[27-Dec-18 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully the movie only covers the first book


[27-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's just a bunch of bullshit until Harrison Ford goes CONGRATS YOU KILLED THE ALIENS WHEN THEY WANTED A TRUCE HAHHA REKT


[27-Dec-18 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I thought he did the blogging while in time dilation


[27-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the kid takes like ten steps out of the building and gets handed the egg


[27-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
so that he would come out in a future where the bugs were accepted


[27-Dec-18 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Granted, Bill Clinton was impeached because he accepted a blowjob from someone other than his spouse


[27-Dec-18 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or am i missing something from the equation?


[27-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The implication with Bill, to get moderates on board, is that it might not've been 100% consensual


[27-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But really, that's kind of default expected with infidelity


[27-Dec-18 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
like oh you manipulated that mistress, she's the victim!


[27-Dec-18 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i kinda heard this about Clinton's case


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Granted, i don't think Clinton was a president above average


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So he's not worth defending


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically all presidents fukk mistresses and their wives don't care


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you can get a mistress to like


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
say that he manipulated her


[27-Dec-18 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's not the 60s anymore, so manipulating women for sex isn't considered okay


[27-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you can unseat your political rival


[27-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
the best possible thing that could ever happen in my lifetime is trump's wife divorcing him


[27-Dec-18 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they're put in the bind where they either lie and then are guilty of lying under oath, or they don't lie and they lose reelection


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Presidents can't lie under oath?


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, at all?


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody can


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a crime


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
you can either answer or refuse to answer to avoid self incrimination


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
but you can't lie


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make an oath and lie under it, you can get jailtime


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh.


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
clinton was impeached in his second term though


[27-Dec-18 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By that logic, Trump should have gone to jail months ago


[27-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
he hasn't actually been subpoenaed


[27-Dec-18 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or he can make a case and just finally say he's too stupid to read up on data


[27-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
he and the other republicans have been fighting really hard to prevent trump from being subpoenaed


[27-Dec-18 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So he invents shit


[27-Dec-18 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
he can't lie under oath if he's never under oath


[27-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that the republicans opened this can of worms to begin with by forcing the issue with clinton


[27-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They played the short game


[27-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
most shitty things in the past few decades in politics have been republicans throwing out traditions and conventions in order to push their agenda at the detriment of democrats, and then the democrats retaliating


[27-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party is basically, post-60s, *designed* to do this.


[27-Dec-18 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was taken over by Southern conservatives


[27-Dec-18 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern conservatives say they want law and order (as in laws against disorderly brown people and gays), say they want to be hard on crime (if you design your laws right, behavior is criminal when brown people do it, while whites get off for all but like murder), say they want reform (reforming into the racist past) say they want chekks and balances (only on their opponents), etc.


[27-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav no core values


[27-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is about holding onto power to keep white christian males on top


[27-Dec-18 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll spin you a dozen different lies about what their core values are.


[27-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's their endgame, the final last ditch effort to seize power and ride it, completely ditching every tradition and the law itself as much as possible.


[27-Dec-18 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately for them, he's not very sly


[27-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he'll crash and burn in the end and then they'll struggle to replace him.


[27-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, in the meantime, they get a few more years in the sun


[27-Dec-18 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
their party base has been getting older, no longer having children, it's inevitably gonna crumble unless they can suddenly convert maaaaany young people


[27-Dec-18 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're kind of succeeding, through alt-right radicalization tactics.


[27-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not on the scale necessary


[27-Dec-18 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Downside is, they'll have to transform into a full-blown far-right party if they continue that way.


[27-Dec-18 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
young people are going extremely far left


[27-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is normally you hav mainly the party perpetuated by parents->kids


[27-Dec-18 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just let only the left hav kids and then also hav better messaging to kids


[27-Dec-18 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's what's going on pretty much


[27-Dec-18 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The alt facters are vocal, but they just don't hav the numbers.


[27-Dec-18 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/trump-misleads-military-pay-raise-again/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/trump-misleads-military-pay-raise-again/index.html
Trump misleads about military pay raises again
President Donald Trump incorrectly told troops in Iraq on Wednesday that he gave them their first pay raise in more than 10 years -- a falsehood he has repeatedly told.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181226151748-06-trump-iraq-1226-super-tease.jpg


[27-Dec-18 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
"In fact, military pay has increased every year for more than three decades. It was raised 2.4% in 2018 and then 2.6% in the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act. The 2.6% pay raise is the largest in the past 9 years."


[27-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
the US military basically exists for people to get the benefits that every other country in the west considers basic human rights


[27-Dec-18 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
that's how overfunded our military is lol


[27-Dec-18 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie the alt right is made up of too many sexual "deviants" to be a Republican savior


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't matter


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans were never pure


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just pretended to be


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At best you're going to get a right wing party that argues that traps aren't gay


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alt-facters don't care what reality is


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they deny deny deny


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well doing that seems to produce results for now.


[27-Dec-18 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Government without civility vs civility without government.


[27-Dec-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alt-facters in charge of gov't would legit make loli not even require the miller test to be obscene, getting SCOTUS to agree


[27-Dec-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
while also being avid consumers of it


[27-Dec-18 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
when one's caught, disavow etc.


[27-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could try to take a crakk at gay porn too


[27-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would unleash hell but like


[27-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't care how much they're hated


[27-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as they can eke out their gerrymandered votes


[27-Dec-18 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too many heterosexual couples engage in sodomy to make sodomy a realistic crime


[27-Dec-18 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That never stopped the gov't


[27-Dec-18 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look


[27-Dec-18 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually one day you're going to have every combine in America owned by Cargill or Monsanto or w/e and remotely operated in Houston, Chicago, or LA


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the combines will load directly onto trucks that drive the grain to factories that remotely mill into flour that delivery to automated factories etc


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a conservative's wet dream


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tl;dr rather than be overrun by opiods and meth you'll get a rural refugee exodus


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimate market efficiency


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
three giant companies control the entire food supply etc.


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, you'll be overrun by both


[27-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
opioids also are the free market


[27-Dec-18 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Urban areas will feel the pinch because prior to this they go "fuck, just give everyone a state equivalent of medicare for all"


[27-Dec-18 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually combined with climate change/water shortages some areas of the US will be Darfur but with more guns


[27-Dec-18 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/422851-mccaskill-on-ocasio-cortez-im-a-little-confused-why-shes-the-thing

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McCaskill on Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I’m a little confused why she’s...
Outgoing Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.) says that she is “a little confused” by the rapid rise of Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.)
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_113018sr4_lead.jpg


[27-Dec-18 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
I think she might be confused about the idea that there might be a politician that actually cares about anyone other than herself


[27-Dec-18 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was a red state Democrat that is a dying breed. 2018 kicked out all moderates like her.


[27-Dec-18 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missourians only ever vote for irrelevance and people who spend as little time in our state as possible.


[27-Dec-18 09:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"she beat a very experienced congressman"


[27-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf is an "experienced congressman"


[27-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like "an experienced panhandler"


[27-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"an experienced liar"


[27-Dec-18 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"a professional parasite"


[27-Dec-18 09:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Knows who to talk to and how to talk to them to do a thing. I know there's a fuss here in Michigan over our term limits because it's never enough time for them to build relationships with other people so state senators and representatives are more vulnerable to lobbies than not.


[27-Dec-18 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETe8ZREb0AM

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Old TV Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETe8ZREb0AM
You And Your Work (1948)
Young Frank Taylor loathes working at a shoe store, but discovers that he is doomed to hate any job unless he changes his attitude. After a motivational lect...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ETe8ZREb0AM/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Dec-18 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
the latter part of the video sounds like stockholm syndrome victims describing how wonderful their captor is


[27-Dec-18 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
they're just finding little details that their minds can latch onto in order to paint their profession in a good light


[27-Dec-18 12:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Isn't it great you get to work for an obnoxious boss who talks up team work while contributing little to nothing towards that?"


[27-Dec-18 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
I suppose the one concession I can make is that in that time, random part-time work was enough to buy a house outright within a couple years


[27-Dec-18 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
my grandparents bought a house in 1953 for about $18,000 ($166,000 in today's money) when only my grandfather was working as a part-time traveling salesman


[27-Dec-18 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
that house is now estimated to be worth over $1 million


[27-Dec-18 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
and you have to be incredibly desperate in order to convince yourself that fitting people for shoes is a job that needed doing, though I guess the foot sizer devices common nowadays didn't exist back then


[27-Dec-18 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, at the end of the video, it goes on to say that a random part time helper who's only been working there for 5 years is now somehow manager of the store


[27-Dec-18 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
the idea of someone working part time for 5 years nowadays being promoted to manager is a joke


[27-Dec-18 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
if that video ever blows up, you know all the comments will be people trying to compare the economy 70 years ago to today


[27-Dec-18 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
it's not possible to make a war big enough anymore which will boost the US economy to the point it was in 1948 without destroying literally everything


[27-Dec-18 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/814549/iraq-trump-told-troops-2-falsehoods-about-pay

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https://theweek.com/speedreads/814549/iraq-trump-told-troops-2-falsehoods-about-pay
In Iraq, Trump told the troops 2 falsehoods about their pay
While speaking to U.S. service members at the al-Asad airbase in Iraq on Wednesday, President Trump spread two falsehoods about military pay.
First, Trump asked the gathered troops if anyone there was "willing to give up the big pay raise you just got," and declared that serv...
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-1075161536.jpg?itok=0HutpqY7


[27-Dec-18 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://imgur.com/gallery/lF9H0z2

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https://imgur.com/gallery/lF9H0z2
Guillotine Time
https://i.imgur.com/ZdqLlUDh.jpg


[27-Dec-18 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m kinda just hoping trump eats himself into a coma while watching fox news on the toilet


[27-Dec-18 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems like the kind of person who eats big macs while ont he toilet


[27-Dec-18 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is going to live into his 90s


[27-Dec-18 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's going to be one of those shits people interview on his 98th and boasts about eating two cheeseburgers a day for 70 years


[27-Dec-18 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[27-Dec-18 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cursed future


[27-Dec-18 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wrdw.com/content/news/President-Trump-Signs-the-Farm-Bill-Making-Dog-and-Cat-Meat-Illegal-in-the-United-States-503308841.html

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President Trump signs the Farm Bill making dog and cat meat illega...
In a groundbreaking victory for animals in the United States and across the world, the “Dog and Cat Meat Prohibition Act” was signed into law by President Trump.
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[27-Dec-18 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/fsule0u

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Asimov
https://i.imgur.com/84MDnO2h.jpg


[27-Dec-18 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/27/msnbc-fox-cable-ratings-number-one-1075872

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MSNBC morning ratings top Fox for first time in 18 years
It boasted the most-watched program on cable news last week, "The Rachel Maddow Show."
https://static.politico.com/af/16/33387a00445dbbf10fd0e60ad1af/181227-gty-773.jpg


[27-Dec-18 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/26/government-shutdown-2018-update-1075284

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Federal workforce starts to feel pinch of prolonged shutdown
But President Donald Trump and congressional leaders aren't even talking.
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[27-Dec-18 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will likely never even mention it


[27-Dec-18 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump will keep this going for as long as he needs sicne it doesnt effect him financially he couldn't care less


[27-Dec-18 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
families will starve or lose their homes, but for the sake of national security that's a sacirifice he's willing to make


[27-Dec-18 08:19 PM] Arvid#8335
Is the government still gone?


[27-Dec-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
day 6


[27-Dec-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[27-Dec-18 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump visited troops for christmas to tell them to vote for him in 2020


[27-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so apparently trump didnt even tell iraq about his visit


[27-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thus violating sovreignity laws


[27-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/ab00e32b094b4684a15ef55765d98311

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Iraqi lawmakers demand US withdrawal after Trump visit
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraqi lawmakers Thursday demanded U.S. forces leave the country following a surprise visit by President Donald Trump that politicians denounced as arrogant and a violation of national sovereignty. Trump's trip to U.S. servicemen and women at al-Asad Airbase i...
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[27-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/527818399221284893/7DE5624A042A4B868EF6BEFDC00EDF35.jpg

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[27-Dec-18 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was so much shit against several laws and code violations in this visit it's really fuckign stupid


[27-Dec-18 08:58 PM] Arvid#8335
How has Trump not been impeached yet?


[27-Dec-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans keep saving his ass


[27-Dec-18 08:58 PM] Arvid#8335
There are so many investigations going on against him


[27-Dec-18 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
startign january the hosue republicans are going to be less of an issue


[27-Dec-18 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again if nancy pelosi is the house speaker whose to say she isnt in trump's pocket


[27-Dec-18 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now trump is trying to anally force as much shit as he can through the congress before hosue democrats become an issue for him


[27-Dec-18 09:02 PM] Arvid#8335
Trump's administration is corrupt as fuck


[27-Dec-18 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes thye are and its startign to collapse as well


[27-Dec-18 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his cabinet isnt built on trust, duty, and doign their job. it;s built on money laundering, black mail, lies, hoarding, and runnign several criminal cons at the same time


[27-Dec-18 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unsurprisingly that doesnt really work if the head of said con is a total fuckign idiot


[27-Dec-18 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also werent subtle fromt he start considering the entirety of each of his staff are there to raise debts and prices for whoever the office is workign for


[27-Dec-18 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm half surprised betsy devos hasnt tried to decimate the pell grant by now just to make it a normal student loan


[27-Dec-18 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol impeachment


[27-Dec-18 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd get one maybe


[27-Dec-18 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But a removal vote would be along party lines save for like three Republicans


[27-Dec-18 09:11 PM] moonatik#3676
best case scenario, he loses in 2020 and is indicted as soon as he leaves office


[27-Dec-18 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest would argue obstruction of justice and campaign finance fraud isn't reeeeallly a crime


[27-Dec-18 09:12 PM] moonatik#3676
hey mr. FBI could you do the rest of us a favour and go after the financial crimes of the rest of the terrible white collar criminals and politicians?


[27-Dec-18 09:13 PM] moonatik#3676
i know you're busy with trump now, finish that up first, but please do the rest


[27-Dec-18 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/19/donald-trumps-eminent-domain-nearly-cost-widow-house it's not politics but it;s telling of how trump sees eminent domain

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Donald Trump's eminent domain love nearly cost a widow her house |...
In the mid-90s the property mogul hoped eminent domain would help move out a widow who stood in the way of a planned limousine parking lot
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[27-Dec-18 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lcarrel/2018/12/24/taxpayers-unprepared-for-changes-in-trumps-tax-law/

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Taxpayers Unprepared for Changes in Trump's Tax Law
Jeff Fishman, founder JSF Financial, a financial planning and investment management firm in Los Angeles, said many of the changes in the tax law passed last year will catch a lot of people by surprise and force them to pay more in taxes.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Flcarrel%2Ffiles%2F2018%2F12%2FFishman-1200x1805.jpg


[27-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removing SALT is such horseshit


[27-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is a targeted way to tax Democrats more


[27-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they liv in areas with higher state taxes


[28-Dec-18 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So with the Johnson Amendment being repealed


[28-Dec-18 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could I start a church that spends 2 minutes reading from a children's Bible and then an hour talking about politics and then pay no taxes


[28-Dec-18 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a few pews, a small cross on the wall but mostly campaign signs


[28-Dec-18 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the international trump church of christ giving him cash


[28-Dec-18 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids, christ was a dirty middle easterner and we shoudl never let thme into america


[28-Dec-18 12:32 AM] DevField#5162
🤔


[28-Dec-18 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
support the wall today!


[28-Dec-18 12:32 AM] Arvid#8335
Candace Owens thinks Jeff Bezos "wants socialism"


[28-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Funny way of saying "robot worker slaves"


[28-Dec-18 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you wouldnt want jesus stealing your jobs, *now would you?*


[28-Dec-18 12:36 AM] Arvid#8335
I want Trump to come out as a flat earther


[28-Dec-18 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not forming a church dedicated to the religious study of Das Kapital


[28-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Sir, you can't just form a religion centered around a political figure."


[28-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Oh, but we can."


[28-Dec-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump would start one based on himself if he could


[28-Dec-18 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Return of the Emperor Cult


[28-Dec-18 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Capitalism, Its.


[28-Dec-18 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where poor people are rounded up by anti-vagrancy robots to be converted into fuel.


[28-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it shall exist within the week


[28-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of a steampunk story I read where things weren't really powered by steam


[28-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But by the blood of the poor


[28-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so that's what the mobile cities are fueled by


[28-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically IRL history


[28-Dec-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what are rich people if not poor people with money?


[28-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Gay weed too?


[28-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) how high are you now


[28-Dec-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not high at all i;m sayign we shoudl use rich people as vehicle fuel


[28-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wont smell very good at first but i;m sure trump is large enough to fuel a small city for afew decades


[28-Dec-18 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Arvid says we should vore the rich


[28-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah that's a waste of perfectly fueltastic blood


[28-Dec-18 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we coudl eat thme but then that's just an end to their suffering


[28-Dec-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless we're eatign thme peice by peice while they're fully awake and alive


[28-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a brain expansion meme


[28-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Eat the Irish"


[28-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Eat the rich"


[28-Dec-18 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Eat the rich Irish"


[28-Dec-18 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trikk the rich into selling themselves as soylent, pretending that it's made from the Irish


[28-Dec-18 12:57 AM] DevField#5162
:trixdisgust:


[28-Dec-18 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?


[28-Dec-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none

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[28-Dec-18 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-kurds/let-down-by-u-s-syrian-kurdish-leaders-look-to-russia-and-assad-idUSKCN1OQ18E

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Let down by U.S., Syrian Kurdish leaders look to Russia and Assad
Alarmed by a U.S. decision to leave Syria, Kurdish leaders who run much of the n...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181227&t=2&i=1339549699&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEBQ0TG


[28-Dec-18 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[28-Dec-18 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
karl marx was very wise


[28-Dec-18 02:58 AM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
How to piss off a community
Step 1. Post an opinion - Trump is a terrible president
Step 2. Wait


[28-Dec-18 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree, trump is the worst


[28-Dec-18 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
When I used to play Runescape, I would go to Catherby, the big fishing place for people who had membership. There were a lot of people there, sometimes not talking. In the silent din I would pipe in: "Bush sucks"


[28-Dec-18 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And watch the fireworks.


[28-Dec-18 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, did you see this? https://imgur.com/gallery/lF9H0z2

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Guillotine Time
https://i.imgur.com/ZdqLlUDh.jpg


[28-Dec-18 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yep


[28-Dec-18 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Petition org to put a painting of Bastille day into every Fortune 500 company board room

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[28-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives resent the fact that the US spent its own money to rebuild germany and japan after ww2


[28-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
and say that it's not the US's place to fix other people's countries because it's a waste of money


[28-Dec-18 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
when one of the very reasons why the US is so strong today is because of the long-term benefits of investing in germany and japan lol


[28-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/world/africa/congo-ebola-riots-election-protests.html

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By KIMIKO de FREYTAS-TAMURA
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/world/africa/congo-ebola-riots-election-protests.html
Rioters in Congo Storm an Ebola Center as Political Unrest Grows
Delays of long-anticipated elections to replace President Joseph Kabila are adding to insecurity in a region plagued by an Ebola outbreak and militia violence.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/28/world/28congo-1-print/28congo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
The violence erupted a day after the electoral commission excluded Beni and another eastern city, Butembo, from the elections set for Sunday. Both cities are hot spots in the region’s Ebola crisis and the commission blamed the outbreak in announcing the exclusion. The town of Yumbi was also excluded, but ostensibly because of violence, not Ebola.


[28-Dec-18 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
All three areas are opposition strongholds, raising questions about whether the exclusions are politically motivated.


[28-Dec-18 06:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Disrupting ebola treatment is sure to solve the ebola problem and surely could not make things any worse.


[28-Dec-18 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-election-gantz/israeli-ex-general-polling-closest-to-netanyahu-joins-2019-election-race-idUSKCN1OQ14E

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Israeli ex-general, polling closest to Netanyahu, joins 2019...
A former Israeli armed forces chief who opinion polls show poses the toughest ch...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181227&t=2&i=1339557746&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEBQ0QU


[28-Dec-18 07:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/HUzCglAAorw

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NonCompete
https://youtu.be/HUzCglAAorw
Was Jesus Christ a Communist?
Jesus had a lot to say about wealth, greed, and materialism. But would he be a communist if he were a live today, or would he embrace capitalism? Non-Compete...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HUzCglAAorw/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Dec-18 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
imagine how angry people would be if some random dude with powers started going around doing shit for free


[28-Dec-18 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
I guarantee you that a jesus-like person going around healing people with chronic diseases would have 5 pharmaceutical assassins on his ass within the day


[28-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-apotex-billionaire-murder/


[28-Dec-18 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
toronto police barely looked at the place and announced it was a suicide, so family hired a couple PIs who thoroughly looked over the place and determined it was a homicide


[28-Dec-18 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
so I get the feeling that someone paid off the police to try and write it off as a suicide


[28-Dec-18 10:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't that the guy selling generic drugs for far cheaper than he could?


[28-Dec-18 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
I assume so


[28-Dec-18 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
a dude who was assigned by the US to investigate the huge drug price increases was found dead a few weeks ago too


[28-Dec-18 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
that one was also ruled a suicide, but no details about the cause of death were released


[28-Dec-18 10:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/11/death_of_hhs_official_daniel_b.html

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Death of HHS official Daniel Best is ruled a suicide
In announcing his death, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said the 49-year-old former CVSHealth and Pfizer Pharmaceuticals executive agreed to work at HHS "out of a desire to serve the American people by making health care more affordable."
https://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width620/img/plain_dealer_metro/photo/25025931-standard.jpg


[28-Dec-18 11:09 AM] byte[]#2610
He saw the truth


[28-Dec-18 11:09 AM] byte[]#2610
And killed himself


[28-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
the only detail released was that he died from "multiple blunt force injuries"


[28-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
not how they were caused


[28-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
or anything else


[28-Dec-18 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
he was found next to a garage door of an apartment building


[28-Dec-18 12:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
"It's so odd. It's like he conciously bashed his head against the wall of his garage until he finally broke open his skull and died "


[28-Dec-18 12:31 PM] Crow#5457
falling causes multiple blunt force injuries


[28-Dec-18 12:31 PM] Crow#5457
like jumping off (or being thrown off) a building


[28-Dec-18 12:31 PM] Crow#5457
he had a wife and 3 kids


[28-Dec-18 12:31 PM] Crow#5457
kinda strange to kill yourself out of the blue


[28-Dec-18 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well you knwo those investigators, always just commiting random suicide out of the blue


[28-Dec-18 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's really no telling with those guys sometimes y'know


[28-Dec-18 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46701095

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Syrian army 'takes control' of key city
The government responds to a call for help from Kurdish forces trying to repel a Turkish offensive.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/159CF/production/_104972588_gettyimages-956149426-1.jpg


[28-Dec-18 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
the enemy of my enemy is my friend


[28-Dec-18 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
granted, with US backing, there wouldn't be a need for this to begin with


[28-Dec-18 04:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m29sQ6SklX8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m29sQ6SklX8
Russia's Crackdown on Rap Music
"Vladimir Putin Says Rap Should Be Controlled in Russia, Not Banned": https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8490435/vladimir-putin-rap-control-r...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m29sQ6SklX8/hqdefault.jpg


[28-Dec-18 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
is there anything that russia won't crack down on


[28-Dec-18 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
sometimes it seems like they crack down on retarded shit just because they ran out of anything even the slightest bit credible to crack down on


[28-Dec-18 04:31 PM] ononim#8141
The Church


[28-Dec-18 04:31 PM] ononim#8141
Because why would eagle peck its second head


[28-Dec-18 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"the citizens are enjoying something? NOT IN MY RUSSIA!"


[28-Dec-18 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but chances are they cracked down on rap because people started playing the rebellious type of rap


[28-Dec-18 04:34 PM] ononim#8141
^


[28-Dec-18 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering this is a country where the "great leader" needs to rig elections to stay in power, a rebellion may be the opposite of what thye want


[28-Dec-18 04:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
All competition just commits suicide because they know they can't compete against Putin. Suicide such as 2 shots to back.


[28-Dec-18 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"clearly this man shot himself in the back, stabbed himself in the throat, and then got up and climbed into the fireplace himself"


[28-Dec-18 05:03 PM] Honahue#0656
"this man died of natural causes, a knife in the back, naturally, kills one"


[28-Dec-18 07:03 PM] Arvid#8335
Putin wasn't digging trap rap


[28-Dec-18 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423082-trump-threatens-to-close-southern-border-entirely-if-dems-dont-fund

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Trump threatens to close 'Southern Border entirely' if Dems don't ...
President Trump on Friday threatened to "close the Southern Border entirely" if Democrats do not agree to provide money to "finish" building a wall on the Mexican border.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump_getty122118.jpg


[28-Dec-18 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-threatens-close-border-773514/

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Trump Threatens to Close Southern Border Entirely and End Trade De...
“We will be forced to close the Southern Border entirely if the Obstructionist Democrats do not give us the money to finish the Wall,” the president tweeted
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[28-Dec-18 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically he not only shut down the government but now he wants to shut down the border and kill off our trade economy with canada and mexico over a stupid fucking wall


[28-Dec-18 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
What a baby


[28-Dec-18 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
He even crosses his arms like a child who won't get his way


[28-Dec-18 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
He looks like a whiny little boy who was just told no after screaming to Mommy for candy


[28-Dec-18 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"Obstructionist democrats!"
>Threatens to obstruct all government, with large possible collateral damage


[28-Dec-18 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>threatens to kill our trade economy with other countries over a wall


[28-Dec-18 08:16 PM] Mikey#7286
He's literally acting like a baby


[28-Dec-18 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a big diaper baby throwing a fuckign tantrum


[28-Dec-18 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i have no issue with using biased news sources for this because they're right as fuck


[28-Dec-18 08:16 PM] Mikey#7286
I have never seen someone so _childish_ in office


[28-Dec-18 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the roling stone called him a baby and their fuckign right


[28-Dec-18 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[28-Dec-18 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will make millions homeless, throw our economy into ruin and lay waste to government programs all over a toy fuckign wall


[28-Dec-18 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The United States looses soooo much money on Trade with Mexico under NAFTA, over 75 Billion Dollars a year (not including Drug Money which would be many times that amount), that I would consider closing the Southern Border a “profit making operation.” We build a Wall or close the Southern Border. Bring our car industry back into the United States where it belongs. Go back to pre-NAFTA, before so many of our companies and jobs were so foolishly sent to Mexico. Either we build (finish) the Wall or we close the Border. 
Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador are doing nothing for the United States but taking our money. Word is that a new Caravan is forming in Honduras and they are doing nothing about it. We will be cutting off all aid to these 3 countries - taking advantage of U.S. for years! -donald trump over twitter


[28-Dec-18 08:22 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[28-Dec-18 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where did he get that figure about the NAFTA deficit? IIRC, Trump lies a lot on numbers, despite having access to official govt data


[28-Dec-18 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt read official government data


[28-Dec-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably shreds any papers they give him


[28-Dec-18 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has ensured people now want an open border


[28-Dec-18 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Schengen works


[28-Dec-18 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;d support an open border just to say fuck you


[28-Dec-18 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, that "money hole" argument by Trump just reeks of economic ignorance, trade agreements aren't just financial aid


[28-Dec-18 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt know shit about economics


[28-Dec-18 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of his knowledge went into bummign the mafia into giving him deals


[28-Dec-18 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now he doesnt have daddy and the mafia to get him what he wants and as president that shit isnt coming to his aid


[28-Dec-18 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trade "deficits" are a big fukking lie to begin with


[28-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are premised on the idea that if you buy products, the money going out is a problem and the products coming in are worthless


[28-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
that'd be true if people only imported, like, artwork


[28-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
but imports are largely either raw materials or finished goods, particularly industrial goods


[28-Dec-18 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[28-Dec-18 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump knows fuck all about foreign relations, it seems


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He knows fukk all about everything


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump only knows one law


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eminent domain


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He LITERALLY is a person who believes air in penthouses can't make it to the atmosphere


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has the scientific education of a 6 year old boy


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt knwo hwo to utilize it but he knows what it is and how to attempt to iser it to bulldoze a ladies house to build a pakrign lot


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
People STILL havn't entirely gotten it thru their thikk heads


[28-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
that Trump has no idea what he is talking about 100% of the time.


[28-Dec-18 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was the worst student in his ecconomics college classes


[28-Dec-18 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he graduated solely on money alone


[28-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
With his family's wealth, he could've gotten every question on a test wrong and still passed it


[28-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was the fukking 60s


[28-Dec-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/

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Revealed: Trump's professor thought he was his 'dumbest student' e...
Donald Trump has an interesting take on modesty, to say the least. Despite the US president attesting to the fact he finished "top of his class" at
https://cdn.studyinternational.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/shutterstock_453281746.jpg


[28-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
😂 😂 😂


[28-Dec-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was "top of his class" because daddy bought it for him


[28-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, he wasn't actually top of his class


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
what they bought was admission itself and passing


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part about four or eight years of a Trump presidency


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Appalachia will still be poor


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They couldn't buy him getting on the Dean's List of students etc. that did well


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And still vote GOP


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry i forgot to put top of his class in quotation marks of sarcasm


[28-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh I don't think even Bernie could make Appalachia middle class


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's something that'll take many years


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hav to completely reverse course pretty much.


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're basically like our Ireland


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And we're Britain


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When Britain owned Ireland


[28-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine the salt if Northern Ireland unifies to reenter the EU


[28-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Citing better economic opportunity


[28-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking go home Britain


[28-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What happened to just doing population exchanges


[28-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then they like, disallow immigration in from the UK over "economic concerns", it would be glorious


[28-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[28-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the UK seriously has the highest homelessness in Europe


[28-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like 3 times the US rate


[28-Dec-18 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[28-Dec-18 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not good


[28-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that the UK is like the US except with socialized medicine and a lot longer since it was globally relevant


[28-Dec-18 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And with the metric system


[28-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sort of


[28-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
they measure their weight in STONES


[28-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And distance in miles


[28-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's really crazy is they don't know their weight in pounds *or* kg


[28-Dec-18 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dafuq


[28-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they purchase food in pounds


[28-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and use kg for scientific stuff


[28-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A stone is just ten pounds


[28-Dec-18 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LOOK AT THAT FELLA WEIGHIN' FIFTEEN STONE


[28-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, a stone is sixteen pounds in the UK, Its


[28-Dec-18 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ABSOLUTE UNIT, AINIT?


[28-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
THE SIZE OF THE LAD


[28-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Err, 14 pounds


[28-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but anyways


[28-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a reaaallly stupid unit


[28-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
used to be a thing across europe bakk when people thought shitting in the water they drank was A-okay


[28-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every city would hav its own concept of what a "stone" was


[28-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is what happens when you metricate way too softly


[28-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If Carter had a second term the US would have been so better


[28-Dec-18 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
The UK is what happens when you really really fucking hate poor people


[28-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The second half of the 70s was the right path


[28-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a shitty actor and governor fucked everyone.


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
For some reason, anglo culture hates the poor severely


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
more than like any other culture


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how long it will be before trump threatens to shut down the paychecks of congress and house staff


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Anglo culture has no tradition of revolt


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The rich fucking know the poor won't do shit


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has plenty of tradition of revolt.


[28-Dec-18 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not cutting off heads.


[28-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More than one, I mean


[28-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's only a French thing


[28-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And even then that was the elite being upset with the king


[28-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the problem is way separate from that


[28-Dec-18 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's something to do with policymaking


[28-Dec-18 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, just the ways are considered okay to be written.


[28-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps the fundamental flaw is that legislation is considered *first* to protect financial rights and *second* to protect other rights


[28-Dec-18 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, a very long tradition of privaty property and banking and such that tends to favor the rich and businesses.


[28-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen an argument that any legal system based on precedent will inherently lead to that


[28-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, because if society cared about the poor less a hundred years ago, that precedent holds


[28-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it did


[28-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
If precednt is your primary concern, it becomes really hard to take on reforms that prevent harm


[28-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because instead of considering how things currently hurt people, you're considering how things shouldn't change (from hurting people)


[28-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's conservatism.


[28-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need stability in some regard or people start acting really badly, but there are prices to pay.


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then there's the matter of how, over time, the rich invetibly try to supress the poor using tools they've accrued


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
if your legal system considers those tools valid because of their age, how can you stop them?


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All that matters ultimately


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
the rich throw the poor one bone


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and everyone calms down


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
no revolution


[28-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit drives Marxists insane lel


[28-Dec-18 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it drives me insane and im not even a marxist


[28-Dec-18 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but walmart raised the minimum wage of their store slighty so that makes them ok" no the fuck it doesnt


[28-Dec-18 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When you get so much shit stolen from you at WalMart as an employee you could make up for it by stealing TVs.


[28-Dec-18 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-46699507

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-46699507
Russian station's cathedral gift slammed
Kremlin-backed channel RT sent edible replicas of Salisbury Cathedral as a festive present.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/105F1/production/_104975076_aa6693b5-199d-4601-a66a-13c86e1f2827.jpg


[28-Dec-18 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wish something bad would happen to RT tbh, in terms of where they can air


[28-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're close to getting kicked off the UK


[28-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, talk a little bit too flippantly about Putin and suddenly, gulags for all


[28-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And likely the EU soon


[28-Dec-18 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
These days it's not gulags


[28-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just straight up killed


[28-Dec-18 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Putin was a 3rd tier KGB, so of course obvious poisoning is his go to


[28-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/fox-friends-segment-on-pledge-of-allegiance-is-just-as-bizarre-and-unnerving-as-one-might-expect/

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Colby Hall
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/fox-friends-segment-on-pledge-of-allegiance-is-just-as-bizarre-and-unnerving-as-one-might-expect/
Fox & Friends Pledge of Allegiance Segment is Just as Bizarre and ...
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Screen-Shot-2018-12-28-at-9.01.15-AM.jpg


[28-Dec-18 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Enjoy the American RT


[28-Dec-18 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course fox and friends woudl turnt he creepiest part of school into a segment


[28-Dec-18 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact


[28-Dec-18 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist


[28-Dec-18 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep and thne it was used to sell flags to classrooms


[28-Dec-18 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're demanding kids say actual socialist indoctrination every day lel


[28-Dec-18 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well of course thye are it pushes thme intot he cult of patriotism a little mroe everytime thye say it


[28-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what is the purpose of the gun worshipping again? Is it to protect the government or overthrow it?


[28-Dec-18 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keeps changing, it seems


[28-Dec-18 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s for rich people to make money off sellign fire arms


[28-Dec-18 09:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure the pledge, if it is or was socialist, has been thoroughly decontextualized


[28-Dec-18 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gun worship is an effective sales strategy


[28-Dec-18 09:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
The thing I hear in real life from my gun toting relatives is more personal protection than anything. If someone's going to rob you or break into your house then it's nice to be safe with a gun nearby on hand.


[28-Dec-18 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont mind the personal protection thing, that's a decent use for them. it;s the oens who own guns because if they dont the government is goign tot ake away their guns that worries me


[28-Dec-18 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as logn as the personal protection reasoning is used responsibly and the guns are used only in emergencies thne i'm fine with it


[28-Dec-18 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for patriotism i shouldnt hate the concept but i do, it;s treated mroe as blind cult worship than logically wanting what's best for your country to see it improve


[28-Dec-18 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"stand and say the pledge of allegience or you're a country hating monster" "Be loyal to the president and don't question them or you hate your country"  "put the flag above your life or we'll oust you from society"


[28-Dec-18 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want america to improve, I want to see it get better and flourish again, but I also don;t see it happening within my lifetime.


[28-Dec-18 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/government-contractors-shutdown-wages-lost_us_5c255621e4b08aaf7a8ed79a

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Shutdown Leaves Government Contractors Without Work And Likely No ...
While federal employees will likely get retroactively paid, many contractors will not.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c2557272400006f049a384b.jpeg?cache=jq2bgodsny&ops=1910_1000


[28-Dec-18 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the government employees hurt by this shut down may not even see backpay


[28-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
UK had a case of a few dozen immigrants reaching the coast in rafts and classed it as "an emergency"


[28-Dec-18 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Have to wonder how they'd react to having the numbers spain or italy get every day


[28-Dec-18 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Italy went after a DWB ship for not incinerating anything refugees touched, so


[28-Dec-18 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine UK can make the same excuse.


[28-Dec-18 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And before that, Italy told Panama that not giving refugees to the slavers in Libya was a violation of international law to get it to revoke the ship's registration


[28-Dec-18 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It worked btw https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/07/dark-day-migrant-rescue-ship-aquarius-ends-operations-mediterranean

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'Dark day': migrant rescue ship Aquarius ends operations
Médecins Sans Frontières says ‘smear campaign’ by European governments hampered work in Mediterranean
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b12d27d22c5f95d899c7c869e45fc531872842d6/0_0_5120_3073/master/5120.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=fbe242e67483ac3bf4e9c6acac665670


[28-Dec-18 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's now de facto illegal to save people trying to escape slavery via the sea.


[28-Dec-18 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Italy still fucking with Libya after all this time


[28-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Italians are completely incompetent at anything related to diplomacy or war south of Sicily


[28-Dec-18 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*the Alps tbh


[28-Dec-18 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Libya is the Italian foreign relations Isonzo


[28-Dec-18 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is Ethiopia


[28-Dec-18 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
One failure, then one success, then abandoned because WW2 ended


[28-Dec-18 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyone can be a success when you fight people with sticks with chlorine gas


[28-Dec-18 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ironically, the Nazis materially supported Ethiopia


[28-Dec-18 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
And Italy invaded anyways


[28-Dec-18 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/9BugznGj6bU

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Visio
https://youtu.be/9BugznGj6bU
Mussolini invades greece
Mama mia, that's a spicy meatball. like for free iphone 5 pls gib sub
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9BugznGj6bU/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Dec-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/28/politics/maine-governor-certifies-congressional-election/index.html

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Maine governor deems congressional election 'stolen' while certify...
Gov. Paul LePage certified the election results for Maine's 2nd Congressional District after a recount and legal battle dragged out the final result in the race for almost two months, cementing a Democratic victory.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161011104302-maine-gov-paul-lepage-super-tease.jpg


[29-Dec-18 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican upset that a new voting system gave voters what they wanted, wrote "election stolen" on certificate of results.


[29-Dec-18 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue Islands are fucking pissed


[29-Dec-18 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They give so much to their states but get shit taken from them, and get no representation.


[29-Dec-18 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So this means what, 41 House seats?


[29-Dec-18 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
blue islands?


[29-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
cities, colleges


[29-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/423142-apprentice-producer-says-they-struggled-to-make-trump-seem-coherent

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'Apprentice' producer says they 'struggled to make Trump seem cohe...
A TV producer who oversaw the first five seasons of President Trump's former reality television show “The Apprentice” says those working behind the scenes often “struggled to make Trump seem coherent.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/celebrityapprentice.jpg


[29-Dec-18 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
A surprise to nobody


[29-Dec-18 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that makes mroe sense


[29-Dec-18 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if state lines will ever disappear in the US


[29-Dec-18 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good question


[29-Dec-18 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though i doubt it for afew states


[29-Dec-18 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
namely the oens split into north and south east and west variations


[29-Dec-18 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and texas


[29-Dec-18 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
texas tries to run itself liek it;s own self contained country so i doubt they;d give up their state lines


[29-Dec-18 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-Dec-18 08:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yeee, degeneracy and sadness beats out Lobster Daddy.

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[29-Dec-18 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[29-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democratic districts


[29-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God I fucking hate discord


[29-Dec-18 08:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Let's randomly scroll this channel down to latest post, but not this one; and this one, let's keep it one full day behind"


[29-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But TSP


[29-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If someone knows how to make this damned program always stay scrolled down to the latest post please tell me


[29-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now they sell games!


[29-Dec-18 08:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it's fucking garbage


[29-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't believe people use this over IRC


[29-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Epic made a billion dollars off of Fortnite in 2018


[29-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's ruin every consumer experience


[29-Dec-18 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By splitting the PC gaming purchasing market into sixths


[29-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't possibly make PC gaming irrelevant like it was for 5+ years


[29-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am not going to get into that discussion atm


[29-Dec-18 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Understandable.


[29-Dec-18 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, but muh competitive market


[29-Dec-18 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That weird point in capitalism where a benevolent monopoly exists for a niche market and competition is actually bad


[29-Dec-18 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is so sad can we collectivize PC gaming, gamers?


[29-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That weird point where a monopoly is immediately good for consumers but bad for workers


[29-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
can you collectivize something that's basically a frivolous excess of capitalism?


[29-Dec-18 10:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is that weird point where it''ll just be bad for everyone if nobody does anything


[29-Dec-18 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, video game development is considered super risky according to the current stock market trends


[29-Dec-18 10:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's because it expects long term profits from something that releases for short term gain, and it takes time and investment to produce the commercial titles even. It's part of the reason micro-transactions exists unfortunately, that studios need continuous and cheap sources of revenue to bide their time between major releases.


[29-Dec-18 10:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise it's a pattern of one major hit every five years with annual releases of basically trash in between, which was the pre-micro transaction economy.


[29-Dec-18 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And on average long term, studios were stable on this model. But the regular ins and outs of this production schedule made banker types really uncomfortable.


[29-Dec-18 10:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
If one argues though that mobile gaming is valid """gaming""" then it's really not that expensive with high return on value with a wide field to capitalize on so Candy Crush and shit is a healthier investment than Good of War.


[29-Dec-18 03:10 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46704111

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Hungary removes uprising hero's statue
The statue of Imre Nagy, leader of the 1956 Hungarian uprising, was a landmark in central Budapest.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/24F1/production/_104975490_nagyafp09.jpg


[29-Dec-18 03:11 PM] moonatik#3676
removing the statue of a national hero to ~~stroke putin's ego~~ own the libtards


[29-Dec-18 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin's dick needs constant sucking or else he will die


[29-Dec-18 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~Hungarian Jair Bolsonaro~~ Viktor Orban seriously doesn't deserve his post


[29-Dec-18 05:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I love how the Visegrad Group parade themselves as "beacons of freedom from Brussels", when, actually, they're rather petty crypto-dictatorships licking the boots of Putin


[29-Dec-18 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/29/politics/trump-executive-order-federal-workers-pay-freeze/index.html

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Trump issues executive order freezing federal workers' pay in 2019
President Donald Trump issued an executive order Friday freezing federal workers' pay for 2019, following through on a proposal he announced earlier in the year.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181222094328-01-shutdown-capitol-1222-super-tease.jpg


[29-Dec-18 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[29-Dec-18 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we dont have the budget to pay our employees but we shoudl give me part of the budget so i can build an ineffective wall"


[29-Dec-18 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what an abusive relationship looks like as head of a political party and gov't


[29-Dec-18 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's no wonder the only people trump towers employs are illegal immigrants...


[29-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Easier to take advantage of


[29-Dec-18 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
he also tends to refuse to pay contractors


[29-Dec-18 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
all part of a strategy to pay as little as possible.


[29-Dec-18 07:16 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/Mlxc8x2CeOM

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Liberty Doll
https://youtu.be/Mlxc8x2CeOM
California Proposes Texting Tax
California has proposed a new plan to tax text messages - here are all the details you need to know. 💜 Connect: Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheLibertyDoll I...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mlxc8x2CeOM/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Dec-18 07:16 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
California California... How far have ya fallen?


[29-Dec-18 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, not very far at all


[29-Dec-18 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it fell int heir hosue but ar ethye trying ti again?


[29-Dec-18 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
keep in mind they once had Reagan as governer and he banned open carry to make sure blakks couldn't shoot police that were beating the shit out of blakk people


[29-Dec-18 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
California is all about reactionary government because it actually has the funding to pass laws


[29-Dec-18 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can i pay off the secret service to let me beat trump with a baseball bat?


[29-Dec-18 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't recommend bribewarring against millionnaires.


[29-Dec-18 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to stop electign millionaires


[29-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that you need to stop making them the only ones that can afford to run


[29-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means you need to bar campaigning before like 6 months before the election.


[29-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you need to publicly fund candidates


[29-Dec-18 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you also need to utterly crush the legal retardation of super PACS


[29-Dec-18 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that stopping superpacs or stopping the stopping of super pacs?


[29-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
stopping them


[29-Dec-18 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS decided that money was speech


[29-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is fukking retarded


[29-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if money is speech, it's a violation of my first amendment rights that I can't fund ISIS


[29-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
literally.


[29-Dec-18 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no legal argument that works against that.


[29-Dec-18 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's dumb as shit. the super pacs, the super voters, the NCs, and campaign finance are the stupidest fuckignt hings


[29-Dec-18 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the national conventions shouldnt evne exist


[29-Dec-18 07:46 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@SeraphimDawn That Text Tax bill was killed shortly after it was introduced


[29-Dec-18 07:50 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Good!


[29-Dec-18 07:51 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But the fact anyone came up with that stupid idea is another issue going on


[29-Dec-18 07:51 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Whoever that was. They should be barred from politics


[29-Dec-18 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was likely a corporation who came up with it


[29-Dec-18 07:56 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You know what else should be against the law? Apple's proprietary repair shit


[29-Dec-18 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are actually under elgal fire for that so i;m hoping that shit gets nuked form orbit


[29-Dec-18 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was came up with by a regulatory agency that deals with utilities


[29-Dec-18 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were seeing a decline in revenue from actual phone calls and wanted a quikk and dirty way to fund programs that provide telecommunications access to the poor


[29-Dec-18 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
California taxes phone calls


[29-Dec-18 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of course it does


[29-Dec-18 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, add california to the lsit of state's i;m never moving to


[29-Dec-18 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[29-Dec-18 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that i coudl afford them anyway


[29-Dec-18 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
California may be overtly liberal


[29-Dec-18 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's still infested with the neoliberalism rampant in American politics


[29-Dec-18 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley is basically a Republican's wet dream aside of that it pumps out Democrats


[29-Dec-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And neoliberalism is all about taxing the rich and not the poor


[29-Dec-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
hence California will tax services everyone uses instead of do anything about the money sitting around in the pokkets of millionnaires.


[29-Dec-18 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any time that money comes under threat, millionnaires can rally people to their aide.


[29-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which leaves "tax text messages!" as like the only option


[29-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that or budget shortfall.


[29-Dec-18 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Long run, people won't be able to get phone plans in rural California because of this.


[29-Dec-18 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/us/politics/north-carolina-house-race-fraud.html

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By ALAN BLINDER and NICHOLAS FANDOS
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/us/politics/north-carolina-house-race-fraud.html
Democrats Vow Not to Seat Republican Who Claimed Victory in North ...
The pledge by the incoming House majority leader came after North Carolina’s elections board dissolved, throwing a contested race into greater turmoil.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/29/us/politics/29CAROLINA-print/29CAROLINA03-facebookJumbo.jpg


[29-Dec-18 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>still California Derangement Syndrome in here


[29-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think people realize that the US really needs it more than it needs the US


[29-Dec-18 08:50 PM] Honahue#0656
maybe for one year, but California agriculture depends on the rest of the country if only because there are literally too few bees to pollinate crops they ship them in from around the country.


[29-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No more tech shipped to the US unless bees


[29-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There


[29-Dec-18 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
all that tech is made in China


[29-Dec-18 09:20 PM] Honahue#0656
and most of it is garbage social media apps and I'd welcome them all leaving


[29-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, "And neoliberalism is all about taxing the rich and not the poor"


[29-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
you mean all about taxing the poor and not the rich?


[29-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
because that's what's happening in both the US and france


[29-Dec-18 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
and guess who's leading both


[29-Dec-18 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/dec/19/donald-trump/no-evidence-fbi-officials-texts-deliberately-erase/ and while hels holding our country hostage for a wall he;s still whiningabout the investigation...

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No evidence FBI officials' texts deliberately erased
President Donald Trump, seeking to discredit the investigation into whether his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia, claimed without evidence that thousands of text messages exchanged between former FBI officials were deliberately erased. Trump also said the text messages, bet...
https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.politifact.com/rulings/tom-pantsonfire.gif


[29-Dec-18 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not shocked at this i;m just very very dissapointed that we have to have this parasite as our president


[29-Dec-18 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Boy Billionaire, made more money than my family in a hundred generations.


[29-Dec-18 11:04 PM] Mikey#7286
"billionaire"


[29-Dec-18 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
millionaires with the rabid depravity and appetites of billionaires


[29-Dec-18 11:10 PM] Mikey#7286
it's funny, he was given more than a million as a kid, yet he obviously was not successful and ended up with a lot less due to failed projects like Trump U and bankrupt casinos


[29-Dec-18 11:11 PM] Mikey#7286
$60 million that he paid no taxes on


[29-Dec-18 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne he wasted money further in courts trying to flatten homes using emminent domaines so he coudl piss it away on limousine parking lots


[29-Dec-18 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm talking about persons other than Trump.


[29-Dec-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that a lot of why flyovers vote the way they do is spite


[29-Dec-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen it first hand


[29-Dec-18 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They know a lot of their state has problems but they just blame a blue island or coastal elites


[29-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[29-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism in both parties led to this blue island red sea shit


[29-Dec-18 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
the red sea votes harder for it while the blue islands know they need to stop it


[29-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then some of the people in charge of said islands go "actually, everything's fine"


[29-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
_glances to Amazon_


[29-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about needs hierarchy, Its


[29-Dec-18 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you're struggling with lower needs, then when it comes time to think politically you only hav room for emotions


[29-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
primarily bad ones


[29-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
so everything becomes spite


[29-Dec-18 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why the poor routinely vote against their best interests


[29-Dec-18 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazon fucking ripped off America with that HQ2 bs


[29-Dec-18 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazon proved a big enough business is enough to bring any city in the US to its knees and beg


[29-Dec-18 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/truck-owners-are-blocking-tesla-superchargers-in-ice-ing-protests-2018-12

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Truck owners are blocking Tesla Superchargers in 'ICE-ing' protests
Some drivers are comparing the practice to "Rolling coal" or creating excess exhaust from a diesel engine.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c2681c0aebf425c6f1d5159-960-480.jpg


[29-Dec-18 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
"yeah, we sure showed them damn lihb burr ehls"


[29-Dec-18 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not even a protest over not buying American


[29-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "use a gas guzzler or I harass you"


[29-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a great way to get your truck keyed and tires slashed


[29-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[29-Dec-18 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if pushed far enough, windows smashed


[29-Dec-18 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or trucks towed for obstruction


[29-Dec-18 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d take the petty route and call some tow trucks to haul the blockade away


[30-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every one of these chargers I've seen is in the corner of a lot too


[30-Dec-18 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It has to be an intentional choice


[30-Dec-18 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently one theory going aorund is that if trump closes the southern border entirely it will force mexico to pay for it to get their trade route back open... This would be a great theory but i don't think that's the point of the threat


[30-Dec-18 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, Trump isn't that smart


[30-Dec-18 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's too much credit to give him


[30-Dec-18 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
others are now blaming george soros because he fudned the caravan during election season


[30-Dec-18 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thus apparently "forcing trump's hand"


[30-Dec-18 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Always him...


[30-Dec-18 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They can't even point to another "leftist globalist finance giver", lmao


[30-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If I were Soros I'd keep a scrapbook of all the things people blamed me for


[30-Dec-18 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i honestly dont knwo that many but there's probably afew


[30-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone gotten their Soros check in the mail


[30-Dec-18 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish he woudl fund my non rebellion


[30-Dec-18 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Goes straight to Derpi's account


[30-Dec-18 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would buy me a hosue


[30-Dec-18 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm under strict orders by the jewerarchy to ban suspected conseratives


[30-Dec-18 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't make it so obvious!


[30-Dec-18 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why not, what are they going to do, muahahaha


[30-Dec-18 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wodner if i can start a go-fund me to finance trumps 2020 campaign and thne keep all the cahs for myself


[30-Dec-18 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*I'm starting to think that the time we spent in Soros' globalist clone production and growth facility wasn't so good...*


[30-Dec-18 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trumpers are just giving their cash away so why the hell not


[30-Dec-18 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we call thme trumpeters?


[30-Dec-18 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it soudns stupidly better and more accurate


[30-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @Teaspoon I'm under strict orders by the jewerarchy to ban suspected conservatives


[30-Dec-18 12:24 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Teaspoon: I'm under strict orders by the jewerarchy to ban suspected conservatives)


[30-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/29/trump-moves-freeze-pay-federal-workers-amid-shutdown/2439801002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/29/trump-moves-freeze-pay-federal-workers-amid-shutdown/2439801002/
Trump moves to freeze pay for federal workers amid government shutdown
If Trump's decision is allowed to stand, the pay freeze would affect about 2.1 million federal employees. The military would not be affected.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/28/USAT/f8a16ea0-d6c6-42d5-8cc3-18c483ea9e2d-542128372_82836788.JPG?crop=1899,1068,x1961,y800&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[30-Dec-18 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's like trump wants to make everyone mad at him


[30-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What're people going to do, revolt?


[30-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hah


[30-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All those true patriots with guns in the hills are a bunch of fucking pussies


[30-Dec-18 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're all as retrograde as the current people in charge


[30-Dec-18 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or he;s trying to crash the government hard so it can be privatized, but alas that;s not how a government crash works


[30-Dec-18 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not how an economic crahs works


[30-Dec-18 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not how any of this works


[30-Dec-18 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i might be giving him too much credit for his tiny legume of a braincell to comprehend


[30-Dec-18 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may also be trying to crash our country into bankruptcy so he can do what he does for all the bankrupt businesses hels run, but we arent his business and a country defaulting on debt has far worse consiquences


[30-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or


[30-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
rich people get richer when there's a recession/depression btw


[30-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
even though the overall economy is down in the dumps


[30-Dec-18 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's a great opportunity for people who don't have to work to live


[30-Dec-18 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's a cantercourous bastards that's having a pissy fit for not getting what he wants and is willing to wreck anything and everything to avoid having he ego bruised


[30-Dec-18 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And is also really god damned stupid


[30-Dec-18 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porbably yeah


[30-Dec-18 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this whole thing is nothing but annoying parasitic stress


[30-Dec-18 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He isn't a genius playing out a xanatos gambit, he's just an overgrown toddler that through force of stupid manages to make people almost as dumb as he is that he has a strong character and a clear focus


[30-Dec-18 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich people are parasites, trump is a parasite, lobbyists are parasites, and trump is even mroe a baby parasite throwing a shit storm over a political stage prope he onyl wants as a 2020 background object for his rallies


[30-Dec-18 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's going to be depressing is watching whatever wet sock dems push for 2020


[30-Dec-18 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need a flame thrower


[30-Dec-18 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention if he closes the southern border completely that locks out actuall american citizens currently on travel leave


[30-Dec-18 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thats another thing i just thought of


[30-Dec-18 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the unfortunate thing is the democratic candidate will either be "let;s fuck trump up" or "let's elect a woman because she has a vagina instead of actuall policies"


[30-Dec-18 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're all gung ho for socialist reform until the mentality creeps intot heir heads that if they let their voters have better lives it might mean the voters will take their precious toys away


[30-Dec-18 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just feel bad for the people I know who are park rangers


[30-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the secret service are getting paid


[30-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good question


[30-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Beto?


[30-Dec-18 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-mar-a-lago-new-year-eve-party-shutdown-773385/

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The president doesn’t seem to care about the 800,000 workers who won’t be receiving paychecks during the government shutdown
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[30-Dec-18 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently there's no backpay comign either ocne this shut down is over


[30-Dec-18 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they are


[30-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
er, no


[30-Dec-18 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
there's always backpay


[30-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
unless you're a contractor


[30-Dec-18 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we dont have the budget to give you guys a living wage and a raise, but let;s waste money on a fuckign yacht party"


[30-Dec-18 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
they actually pay you more to work during shutdowns, but it's delayed


[30-Dec-18 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair enough i missed the word contractor


[30-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump goes to this new years party then he also breaks the law which forbids vacationing during a government shutdown


[30-Dec-18 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that he cares


[30-Dec-18 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
Tickets to Mar-a-Lago’s New Year’s Eve party are $1,000, up from $750 a year ago, which was up from $575 the year before that. The cost of joining the club has also skyrocketed since Trump became a political figure.
Shortly after he took office, former Obama ethics chief Norm Eisen described the price hike to the Washington Post as “naked profiteering that is more like something out of the era of Louis XVI.” Anyone with an extra grand lying around can essentially buy access to the president.


[30-Dec-18 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, how much would it cost to have a guillotine shipped over to the US


[30-Dec-18 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, if anywhere's a good place to storm for revolt it;s mara fuckin lago


[30-Dec-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it techinically wouldnt even have to be violent revolt


[30-Dec-18 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be liek occupy wall street but more personal


[30-Dec-18 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
tbh like 8/10 times this channel is the only channel worth scrolling back through, #general-discussion has basically become #memes-and-shitposts-lite


[30-Dec-18 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently building a guillotine fromt he gorund up was around $1,200 in 2012


[30-Dec-18 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That seems overly expensive


[30-Dec-18 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well you;re goign to need high quality lumber, carving equipment, tools, giant blades


[30-Dec-18 12:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I could make you one for a 10th of that.


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't need a giant blade


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Lilly#4737
Skyrim: start


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again that was 2012


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how much security they have around mar a lago


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so maybe it;s cheaper now


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that even without the secret service, there's tons of private security


[30-Dec-18 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just a cleaver with some weights or a pully


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
How much is US paying for security around mar a lago?


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Lilly#4737
Bye


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
You shouldn't really need to carve the lumber. It's not an ornate machine.


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well we woudl need a neck hole to lock the victims ehad in


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
It'd be better to build one. Or the frame of one to threaten with


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and wrist holes


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Lilly#4737
Im going to sleep


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A guillotine is just a big heavy knife you let drop.


[30-Dec-18 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
2 pairs of 2 beams for the rail, a beam connecting them, and some supports


[30-Dec-18 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) All you need for that is a hole saw. Not all that hard.


[30-Dec-18 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[30-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Lilly#4737
U needn't blade


[30-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Lilly#4737
Use saw


[30-Dec-18 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well the point is that it's fast


[30-Dec-18 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And somewhat clean


[30-Dec-18 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true we coudl crudely rig up an improper guillotine which woudl probably look a lot mroe terrifying


[30-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ultimately you'd just use a pneumatic hammer


[30-Dec-18 01:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There is also momentum from the weight and fall that helps continuing slice through the bone.


[30-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Lilly#4737
An saw 20$


[30-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Lilly#4737
An bucket 10$


[30-Dec-18 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a pricey bucket


[30-Dec-18 01:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
His fancy bucket has a bottom too.


[30-Dec-18 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean if we really want to be cheap with this we could just use a basket ball hoop


[30-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Lilly#4737
No


[30-Dec-18 01:06 AM] Lilly#4737
Then niggers start play basketball with head


[30-Dec-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean... why not?


[30-Dec-18 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not like they're using the head anymore


[30-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The worst part is, Tesla is like all American


[30-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other car companies, the best you're gonna get for that is that half the parts are American, pretty much


[30-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives don't consider liberals to be americans


[30-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just has to be assembled in America


[30-Dec-18 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but even then, a lot of stuff isn't


[30-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only stuff that is is because of shitty tariffs to the point it's build it in America or don't build it


[30-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means Americans hav extreeeeemely shitty car selection


[30-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tesla is all American


[30-Dec-18 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But all liberal American


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather hav Mexican-built gas guzzler that was the only option on the market than all-American futuristic ubercapitalism luxury dragster


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South isn't full of Nationalists


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's full of Fascists


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this is the difference


[30-Dec-18 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are opposed to a culture that cares about the environment and other people.


[30-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "America" in "America First" is a lie


[30-Dec-18 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes the tariffs even stupider


[30-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/LqxMICy.jpg

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[30-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[30-Dec-18 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
"Who the fuck cares? Honestly they are ALL so hammeringly corrupt it boggles the mind if you cannot control them get rid of them, permanently"


[30-Dec-18 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we could if we were allowed to do it blaze of glory style but we have to go through beaurocracy and law making which is slower and gives thme time to prepare


[30-Dec-18 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway


[30-Dec-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll stand on the side of historian Jacques Le Goff and state that the ancient ages were much more complex and fruitful than people often think


[30-Dec-18 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many medieval cultural institutions and practices survive up to this day


[30-Dec-18 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I'll restate what I said earlier: there's no production of culture today, just pastiche passed off as culture and consumed through advertising.


[30-Dec-18 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep


[30-Dec-18 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i dunno, i mean i'm pretty sure there were a lot more powerful rulers than democracies, and science and medicine were also not as common


[30-Dec-18 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That science and medicine were not as common is partly true, but they were actually there in the middle ages


[30-Dec-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One must also be aware that the "middle ages" are an eurocentric concept


[30-Dec-18 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The medieval world was also much more interconnected than we think


[30-Dec-18 01:40 AM] Mikey#7286
i just feel we're more aware of the bad shit than before with the advent of smartphones and the internet


[30-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well the relative power of monarchs was different depending on where you lived, though that's a given: the power structure of the middle ages was much more in the hands of a tiny entitled class where most of everyone was effectively property of that class. But that structure wasn't entirely universal throughout Europe even.


[30-Dec-18 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
so it gives us the illusion things are worse


[30-Dec-18 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
In Anglo-Saxon England many communities were ruled in commons among each other, and there was a strong democratic aspect to land holding vs when the Normans came and re-organized England along French lines of autocratic rule by families.


[30-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[30-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That class contradiction led to quite a lot of political revolt


[30-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
An example of it being the English Peasant Revolt of 1381


[30-Dec-18 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Part of our historical negative perception of the middle ages stems from later Renaissance scholars who painted over the centuries that came before them as barbaric times because they hadn't been trying to revive the glory of Rome.


[30-Dec-18 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was a lot of political and sometimes even revolutionary revolt back in the middle ages that most people aren't aware of


[30-Dec-18 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One could call the Italian populist Cola di Renzo ahead of his time


[30-Dec-18 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you get ganked while negotiating with the king and set back social reforms comparable to later liberal democracy by several centuries


[30-Dec-18 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wat Tyler Gang ASSEMBLE


[30-Dec-18 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
On a sorta related note, Emperor Frederick II of the house of Hohenstaufen, emperor of the holy Roman Empire is regarded as being a fairly progressive emperor for his time, the 12th and 13th century. A Sicilian, he had regular contact between people from western Europe and of the Arabs who still lived in Sicily. As a scholar king he was more in touch with the contemporary sciences and spoke several languages as per the society he lived in. However, he was not a warrior king as many before him so he couldn't reform the political structure of the HRE to be less of a monstrous clusterfuck.


[30-Dec-18 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
As such, he passed out of significance in history, but a lot of his goals and aims would be called fairly modern.


[30-Dec-18 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Frederick II even recruited Muslim Arabs into his army so part of it would not be successfully excommunicated by the Pope


[30-Dec-18 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So much for Deus Vult amirite, lol


[30-Dec-18 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Historian Donal Detwiler described him as: "A man of extraordinary culture, energy, and ability – called by a contemporary chronicler stupor mundi (the wonder of the world), by Nietzsche the first European, and by many historians the first modern ruler – Frederick established in Sicily and southern Italy something very much like a modern, centrally governed kingdom with an efficient bureaucracy."


[30-Dec-18 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's also arguable that, had the Crusader states managed to hold against the tide and survive, they'd become more tolerant of Muslims over time.


[30-Dec-18 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Theodoric, while being a relatively cruel ruler by the law, was for his time also fairly progressive despite being a "German Barbarian". But his legacy didn't really last that long after he died because the Ostrogothic Kingdom in Italy fell apart. But he really wanted to try and be like the Romans that came before him


[30-Dec-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This happened in our history. Fresh Crusaders from Europe were always the ones who committed atrocities. The long-estabilished Crusader nobles oftentimes showed more restraint in their actions against Muslims.


[30-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a huge difference between ancient and modern society


[30-Dec-18 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of it comes down to scale and communications speed


[30-Dec-18 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, sometimes the Crusader kingdoms estabilished alliances with Muslim statesmen, such as the Emir of Damascus and the Sultan of Rum in modern Turkey


[30-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, in ancient times, people would swear to some local lord who had almost absolute authority over a tiny area


[30-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Used to be you could just kill people and that;s the end of it


[30-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
then above him, and yes it was almost always a man, there was some king who had even absoluter authority, but had to use people with swords to enforce it to keep the local lords in line


[30-Dec-18 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now there's police and a census and investigators and news and internet...


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society spent most of its time farming, making clothes, and stabbing the shit out of each other over territorial disputes


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes there were sophisticated political systems, though, especially in Italy and northern Germany.


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
because more territory = more farms


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sophisticated political systems just mean bigger scale, you need more hierarchy


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Examples being the Hanseatic League, and Girolamo Savonarola's popular republic in Florence.


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when communication is really slow, you need representatives


[30-Dec-18 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause you can't hav all the local lords literally at the king's table on a whim


[30-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they can find somebody among them who basically is sane and can represent their interests


[30-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, medicine was primitive as fukk for large stretches of history


[30-Dec-18 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scientific method is a pretty new idea and while people loved greek philosophers, their work wasn't very widely known


[30-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, bloodletting fell out of favor *a bit before the civil war*


[30-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[30-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
200 years ago


[30-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
doctors would just shove leeches on you if you had trouble breathing


[30-Dec-18 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then poor stuff that makes it hard to breathe down your throat


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you would fukking die of what would otherwise be mild pneumonia


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
made from genuine poor people!


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE WASHINGTON


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He died in 1799 of that


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had THREE doctors


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
george washington was the best president in the history of the US


[30-Dec-18 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
who basically competed with each other and him for how many leeches they could stikk on him


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow i wouldn't say the best, but definitely among the top five


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
he's the one who had the most to gain


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
out of any president in history


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, a few weeks past 219 years ago


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
and gave it up


[30-Dec-18 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More for the precedents he set, such as limited presidential terms


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was literally a thing that happened


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't fukking say that ancient society was smart


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And for helping promote the constitutional convention


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
yeah they were *clever*


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
I forget which situation in which bloodletting is actually helpful


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They almost certainly knew things we didn't know they knew


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they did not hav anywhere near our modern understanding of the world


[30-Dec-18 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, so Socrates figured out the Earth was round


[30-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
in like 600 BC


[30-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
China thought the Earth was a flat disk until like the 1700s


[30-Dec-18 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese religious bullshit didn't like the idea of a spherical Earth


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So while Europe, the middle east, and India were all like "yeah it's definitely round, and look at my new calculations for its diameter"


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chinese religious bullshit? I mean, ever since antiquity, China has not been very religious


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At least not in the Euro-Hebrew sense


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Chinese who had fireworks while Europe was using arrows were completely oblivious to quite obvious evidence


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't terribly organized religion but like


[30-Dec-18 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
keep in mind China was legalist


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you disagreed with the emperor, he would get out a very large saw


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China was legalist for only a brief period


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it would be going thru your waist, not your nekk


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Legalism was largely discredited after some field testing


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Confucianism took hold instead


[30-Dec-18 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Confucianism wasn't how the fukking Emperor ruled, he didn't care


[30-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Confucianism included the most important relationship being Emperor and Subject


[30-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in, follow the Emperor or you're immoral


[30-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Emperor himself had nobody he was obligated to follow under Confucian philosophy


[30-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he wouldn't care if he did, he was the Emperor


[30-Dec-18 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone lived to serve him


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not necessarily... confucianism has this weird concept of "mandate of heaven" whereas you can legitimately overthrow an emperor if he shows himself as despotic and unfavoured by whatever spiritual force controls the world


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the usual BS tho


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
EVERY society has some concept of revolt


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a way to say the last bloody revolt wasn't completely unfounded and thus the new regime has legitimacy


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't actually mean anything, it's not supposed to


[30-Dec-18 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an excuse.


[30-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise, the last emperor's heirs could go "you violated our sacred rule" and just stage a counterrevolution with popular support and the country would destroy itself as things seesaw


[30-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, China was legalist


[30-Dec-18 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, that's what happened a lot


[30-Dec-18 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because nothing's perfect


[30-Dec-18 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China has been historically quite revolt-prone


[30-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the deal with China


[30-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a country based around repeated fracturing and despotic reunification


[30-Dec-18 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of few natural barriers for borders in a large, heavily-populated river system


[30-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, China didn't hav like a Pope


[30-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you couldn't just disagree with the emperor on religious matters unless you were somebody worth keeping around


[30-Dec-18 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was not a real idea of critical thinking against the gov't


[30-Dec-18 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Geographical determinism doesn't mean much, imo. China's unity might be more set on precedent than we think.


[30-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main Confucian-Legalist arguments would be based around whether a particular law about how the markets worked was violating principles


[30-Dec-18 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was a period where China was in danger of fracturing among feudal kingdoms, for example, that being the Warring States Period


[30-Dec-18 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, you couldn't really shake the religious dogma about how the Heavens worked in China


[30-Dec-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They rebuffed outside ideas that made sense


[30-Dec-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And had no interest in forming their own thru actual observation and inference.


[30-Dec-18 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
China had great engineering, but terrible science.


[30-Dec-18 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They didn't? I mean, one example being the horses they imported from Bactria, which were better than their own?


[30-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are things, not knowledge about how the world works.


[30-Dec-18 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China sure did exert a lot of influence on neighbouring peoples, but to say they absorbed none is kind of absurd.


[30-Dec-18 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
China was about pragmatic engineering to support large scale despotism


[30-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, there was like no society that gave huge shits about science


[30-Dec-18 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Islamic kingdoms sure liked it for a bit, but that didn't last super long


[30-Dec-18 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We only got to where we are now because they preserved Greek knowledge while advancing it and a lot of that managed to find its way bakk to Europe right as Europe started to really care


[30-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Europe only started to really care because it was finally getting to a point where it could afford rich nobles who didn't spend all their time managing wars.


[30-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you need good agriculture to free up people to spend time thinking


[30-Dec-18 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
as well as te make people a bit less starving so they aren't constantly begging for wars


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Begging for wars?


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Legalism lasted for about 15 years or the length of the Qin dynasty, turns out when the punishment for everything is death including revolt revolution looks to be a pretty good option because things can only get better. Parts survived, the bureaucratic parts but not the underlying principal that humans are animals and must be beaten to conform to society


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, war is bad for agriculture


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who are starving look to others with land they could farm


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is basic territorial greed


[30-Dec-18 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why you hav feudal periods


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
t. a eurocentrist anglo


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
it used to be that the land that existed would only produce the same amount of stuff every year


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
until the industrial revolution


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
China has a surprising history of continually boosting what they can do with so little land.


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, without machinery, your total output is determined almost solely by number of people and resources for them


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
then it went from linear increase per acreage to exponential


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
In farming, arable land is that resource, along with water


[30-Dec-18 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get more people by waiting, or by conquering villages


[30-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get more land by conquering villages


[30-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want more political control, you hav to conquer


[30-Dec-18 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just bide time and really get anywhere, population growth in preindustrial times is too slow.


[30-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to feudalism, despotism, and in general, lots of death and destruction for long periods.


[30-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it's not only in your interests to make more of your own people, but to destroy others while doing it, peacefully absorbing villages is mainly a thing when things are really scarce, like in Persia.


[30-Dec-18 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This channel is kind of a bummer


[30-Dec-18 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie er, Persia made up for its scarcity by lots of commerce. It laid smack dab in the midst of the old world's trade routes, and so saw a whole mountain of wars and conquests and conflicts.


[30-Dec-18 02:15 AM] Honahue#0656
>no idea of critical thinking against the government
Mandate of Heaven, the idea that if a government is doing poorly it's because heaven doesn't like them anymore and should be replaced and it's about a 3000 year old concept


[30-Dec-18 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Persia also had an impressive system of aqueducts and canals that made a lot of dry desert mountains lush verdant valleys.


[30-Dec-18 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"No idea of critical thinking against government" is smack dab wrong, imo. The late medieval age in particular saw a lot of peasant and popular rebellions.


[30-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I already cited three. And i haven't yet cited the Jacquerie.


[30-Dec-18 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Confucianism also has a notion of reciprocated relationship. While the younger person should listen to the older person, the older person should not be deaf to the input of the younger generations or their questions. Failure to do so disrupts the relationship


[30-Dec-18 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Popular rebellions tho get their leaders killed if they fail


[30-Dec-18 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk reminds me of Foucault's notion of power as an assymetrical, mutual set of relationships and rituals


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Confucianism was the carrot to Legalism's stick


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Taoism is the great, "lmao I'm gonna go write poetry in the mountains, losers."


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, there wasn't much of an idea of discourse where you could go "the gov't is wrong, I hav proof, and we should change things"


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, also the only channel which has any sort of serious discussion worth scrolling back through lol, general discussion is shitposting-lite, anything serious that comes up gets told to take it to politics lol


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could discuss some details, but ultimately it came down to any serious opposition being war


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Mandate of Heaven was exactly that


[30-Dec-18 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Indeed


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally you would enact the mandate of heaven when discourse in the court ended.


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because that means shit's not bringing brought up to courtt


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
and facilitating some sort of disaster.


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
And causing shit to happen


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.


[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[30-Dec-18 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep, natural disasters and bad harvests could easily topple dynasties back then


[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Those damn eunuchs are stealing from the Empire!


[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
They destroyed the Han!


[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Any Chinese dynasty lasting for more than 50 years can already be considered very competent


[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that was just revolt


[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[30-Dec-18 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
revolt is a fukking universal in human societies


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Lots of modern scholars compare the Mandate of Heaven to John Locke Social Contact and the Mandate is a few thousand years older


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like China had some wise system where you could actually get soft reform by talking down the emperor


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
The thing with Chinese revolt: they also became the background of significant infrastructural reform.


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea was that you fukking overthrew him if you were actually serious


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's just basic human warfare


[30-Dec-18 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
You also didn't have internal subterfuge nearly as harsh as Roman politics.


[30-Dec-18 02:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the Chinese also created their national identity far sooner than Europe.


[30-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That isn't what we were talking about


[30-Dec-18 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the subject is about ancient societies being wise and complex


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's actually is. The Chinese state was so robust in created nationhood before nationhood in Europe.


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And my point is that ancient societies almost universally were brutal and had major idiocies perpetuated


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which implies a serious level of coherency and beurecratic rigor.


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie i mean, it's not like modern society is wise or complex or non-contradictory as it is.


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Comparatively, one could say the societies and events we have discussed are complex.


[30-Dec-18 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just because we haven't had any significant uprisings in the passed hundred years that makes up contemporary history doesn't mean we're immune from much the same today either.


[30-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Honahue#0656
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[30-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern society has seen an incredibly large drop in violence


[30-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and our societal reform techniques now are primarily nonviolent


[30-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Honahue#0656
The fuck makes an ancient society wise anyway? China had lots of great public works and science


[30-Dec-18 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we actually hav science now to find some decent measure of truth


[30-Dec-18 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are relatively new philosophies that transform human society.


[30-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're largely because we hav industrialization making it so we can more than feed ourselves, and hav tons of people whose jobs are to think or such


[30-Dec-18 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
along with fast communication and travel enabling trade on a never-seen-before scale


[30-Dec-18 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, OK. Whatever. You're using a comparatively small sample size against a very large sample size.


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Industrialization doesn't immediately herald political or structural change. Despite producing a shit ton of food worldwide, we still suffer greatly with the issue of hunger and famine in most areas.


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
So of course there's going to be lower levels of X in Y, if sample Y is smaller than other sample Y.


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The violence drop thing isn't just the last 50 years or so


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
We're still violent. The institutional use of violence has just shifted.


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Violence as in humans killing other humans


[30-Dec-18 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Extraction of rent on threat of losing your home, and extraction of surplus value on threat of losing your livelihood is still violent.


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Executions, murders, and lethality of warfare are all decreasing


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
All the while you hold the police back to threaten everyone else.


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
as is starvation


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and dying of disease


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Violence" is actually a quite vague term


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are killing each other in record low numbers


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
"violence" for most of human history meant widespread death


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
or even causing each other to die indirectly


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
"violence" now means lots of injured, a few deaths


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That thing with the Aquarius in the mediterranean


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's not good, but it's better


[30-Dec-18 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
estimated 5,000ish deaths a year


[30-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's PEANUTS compared to anything 100+ years ago


[30-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's considered a huge travesty


[30-Dec-18 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the war in Syria itself, complete peanuts


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any given year for the Roman empire alone would hav more people killed


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, variable sample size. Doesn't excuse the Congolese Civil War from the 20th century that might have killed as many people as WWI.


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
WWI was relatively small


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially compared to the Civil War, or ancient conflicts


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember, our ways of waging war and killing masses of people have vastly improved over the years.


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No. WWI killed eleven million people.


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but we've still killed fewer people


[30-Dec-18 02:30 AM] Honahue#0656
bruh


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not "relatively small".


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, that's horrifyingly large


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
you're forgetting the population size difference


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
there are areas of France you can't stroll through to this day because of the amount of unexploded ordinance still in the ground


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
over 100 years later


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
it's horrible, but still not on the scale it used to be


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human populations skyroketted in the last 200 years


[30-Dec-18 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
11 mil?


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
especially considering how much better we are at killing each other now


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Around that, perhaps more


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
11 million is like a small country these days


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine what WW3 would be like, then.


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
11 million would've been a sizeable portion of all of europe a few hundred years ago, not just a small country


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention all the non-lethal violence


[30-Dec-18 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as the wounded and sick


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-lethal violence is by its very nature less impactful


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it is also on the decline


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't forget the Spanish Flu, either, whose spread was facilitated by WWI


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Spanish Flu was nowhere near as bad as the plague


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
plague killed off like 40% of the population at the time


[30-Dec-18 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
the first Punic war was massive and killed about 1mil people


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 million people was a LOT in those days


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not that much now


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wouldn't it be all three punic wars combined?


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav 7 billion people


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There were three


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you count Spanish Flu as part of WWI it was almost as deadly as WWII


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
this whole debate is stupid, the NUMBERS show that per capita, violence has massively decreased on a completely unprecedented scale in the past few centuries


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
May have been more


[30-Dec-18 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like 60 million people died in the Spanish Flu epidemic IIRC


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Honahue#0656
sorry I meant the 1st one


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
not even past few centuries


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
in the past century


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, on disease


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
prior to WWI


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
disease killed more soldiers than combat


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
yes, there's much more room for improvement


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But medicine has GREATLY improved since then


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
yes, things can be better


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nowadays, disease kills almost nobody in an army


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Honahue#0656
suicide does that now for US soliders


[30-Dec-18 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
but you 100% absolutely cannot deny that things are already so much better


[30-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suicide rate of US soldiers is barely more than of the general population


[30-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and only recently crossed past it


[30-Dec-18 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spanish Flu largely happened because of soldiers coming home


[30-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And being in cramped conditions for training to begin with


[30-Dec-18 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, soldier to soldier contact spread it between nations rapidly


[30-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
US troops next to French and UK troops, fighting German troops


[30-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
soon enuff, all four countries had it all over them


[30-Dec-18 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's called the Spanish Flu because Spain was the only country that let the media talk about it


[30-Dec-18 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would hurt wartime morale to realize that some flu was killing soldiers almost as much as the enemy


[30-Dec-18 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[30-Dec-18 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610

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[30-Dec-18 05:14 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[30-Dec-18 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Dec-18 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good now we have the libertarian party trying to abolish minimum wage laws


[30-Dec-18 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
where


[30-Dec-18 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure there aren't any libertarians in power


[30-Dec-18 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there arent


[30-Dec-18 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're jsut platforming for it


[30-Dec-18 05:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[30-Dec-18 05:45 AM] Angrybro#0750
libertarians can  suck my dick.


[30-Dec-18 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shouldnt be giving the neoliberals ideas


[30-Dec-18 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Dec-18 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/portland-hotel-fires-2-employees-who-called-police-on-black-guest-2018-12

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[30-Dec-18 07:17 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im conservative now fight me

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[30-Dec-18 07:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
ok


[30-Dec-18 08:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Dec-18 09:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[30-Dec-18 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
apparently fox news reported some fake news that women's march was cancelled due to being "overwhelmingly white"


[30-Dec-18 02:12 PM] Mikey#7286
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans.html

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[30-Dec-18 02:13 PM] Mikey#7286
I recommend any climate change activist to read, and anyone unconvinced, or even if you're a denier


[30-Dec-18 02:13 PM] Mikey#7286
It's a long read


[30-Dec-18 02:52 PM] ononim#8141
Do I smell Pinker's stench up there?


[30-Dec-18 02:52 PM] ononim#8141
Anywya


[30-Dec-18 02:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46704111

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[30-Dec-18 02:53 PM] ononim#8141
Yes I know it was posted here earlier but I want to higligh a thing


[30-Dec-18 02:53 PM] ononim#8141
>**The new monument at Martyrs' Square will replicate one that stood there during the pro-Nazi rule of wartime Admiral Miklos Horthy, who fuelled anti-Semitism. **


[30-Dec-18 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[30-Dec-18 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they're giving hungary back to the nazis?


[30-Dec-18 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I got the impression the "new" monument is meant to replicate one that existed before the nazis


[30-Dec-18 03:03 PM] ononim#8141
So you know, it's not just "licking putin's boots" but you know racists in europe being racists, with puting a statue of anti-soviet activist from 56th who was executed for his rebelion against soviet rule because, gasp, he was degenerate leftist too, and puting in its place a statue that was put there by fucking Horthy


[30-Dec-18 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/barred-from-working-by-shutdown-federal-attorneys-seek-filing-delay-in-seattle-police-reform-case/

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Barred from working by shutdown, federal attorneys seek filing del...
Federal attorneys say they can't respond to a judge's request for information about the status of court-ordered reforms because of the partial government shutdown.
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[30-Dec-18 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi-collects-fake-green-cards-allegedly-supplied-by-trump-club-managers-say-reports_us_5c283ceae4b0407e908346c3

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FBI Collected Fake Green Cards Allegedly Supplied By Trump Golf Cl...
Attorney for immigrants also said he turned over fraudulent Social Security numbers provided by managers at the Trump National Golf Club.
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[30-Dec-18 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://readsludge.com/2018/12/27/who-funds-pragerus-anti-muslim-content/

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Alex Kotch
https://readsludge.com/2018/12/27/who-funds-pragerus-anti-muslim-content/
Who Funds PragerU’s Anti-Muslim Content?
The right-wing educational website PragerU has published videos that discriminate against immigrants and Muslims. Sludge found out who’s funding them.
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[30-Dec-18 08:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim but ononoiom if he rebel against gommies while be commie he can't be a leftist commie. >:^(


[30-Dec-18 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-inflation-rate-hyperinflation-2018-11

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Venezuela's inflation rate just hit 830,000% — and is likely to ...
A report published to Venezuela's parliament said the annual rate had almost doubled in the month since the latest report was published in October.
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[30-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/05/inflation-has-hit-25percent-in-turkey-but-now-the-central-bank-must-hold-its-ground.html

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Inflation hits 25% in Turkey — but experts warn the central bank...
Consumer price growth has hit a whopping 25 percent in Turkey, but the real challenge lies in the central bank not bowing to pressure.
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[30-Dec-18 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[30-Dec-18 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Huh, weird how Venezuela is going through a crisis while Cuba is doing mostly fine


[30-Dec-18 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw, Venezuela's state ideology has strong nationalist elements


[30-Dec-18 09:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll have to say, Venezuela made a mistake by trying to insert itself into the global capitalist market while retaining a heavily nationalized and non-diversified economy. They bet all their chips on oil, and ended up losing the gamble.


[30-Dec-18 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil also has a nationalized oil industry (Petrobras, although it's being gradually privatized by succeeding right-wing presidents), and is doing better than Venezuela, mainly because our economy is more diverse than just oil.


[30-Dec-18 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alas, do not trust the IMF, boyos


[30-Dec-18 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So like are the yellow jackets still a thing


[30-Dec-18 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking People tend to get bored after doing something for a long period of time, and that's one problem i have with the human psyche


[30-Dec-18 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It makes it hard for us to act with long term goals in mind


[30-Dec-18 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is very annoying


[30-Dec-18 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gilets-jaunes-yellow-vest-protests-bfm-france-televisions-today-2018-12-29/

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France's yellow vest protesters demonstrate outside leading broadc...
The holiday season and winter chill may have put a damper on Saturday's turnout, along with Macron's concessions
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[30-Dec-18 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently their latest move was ammbushing a media network


[30-Dec-18 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking vive


[30-Dec-18 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-Dec-18 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
derp fred mom


[30-Dec-18 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kelly-trump-its-not-a-wall-southern-border-immigration-2018-12

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Outgoing chief of staff John Kelly says Trump's 'wall' won't actua...
Outgoing White House chief of staff John Kelly told the Los Angeles Times that Trump's long-promised addition to the southern US border won't be a wall.
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[30-Dec-18 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who the fuck cares what trumps wall will and won't be, he;s holdign the country hostage for 5 billion dollars


[30-Dec-18 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/12/yellow-vests-unions-gilets-jaunes-macron

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The King Stands Naked
The gilets jaunes movement has discredited not just Macron, but the entire French elite.
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[30-Dec-18 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[31-Dec-18 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://joey-wheeler-official.tumblr.com/post/181560993606/tetraterezi-bereftoftitle

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Fingers in his ass
http://joey-wheeler-official.tumblr.com/post/181560993606/tetraterezi-bereftoftitle
Fingers in his ass
tetraterezi: “ bereftoftitle: “ deezcandiedyamztho: “ lavraog: “ lagonegirl: “ This is art. A masterpiece, actually. ” A true American hero ” Iconic ” Reminder this this absolute legend died under...
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[31-Dec-18 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
The legend who did this was later found murdered.


[31-Dec-18 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steal the flags fascism worships and burn them.


[31-Dec-18 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh no point in burning a Confederate flag


[31-Dec-18 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just a white flag


[31-Dec-18 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
burning Confederate flags 👎


[31-Dec-18 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
burning Confederates 👍


[31-Dec-18 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burning Atlanta 👍


[31-Dec-18 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burn em Again, Marcher Sherman


[31-Dec-18 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/30/us/arizona-migrant-child-abuse-allegations/index.html

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Videos showing shelter staffers pushing, shoving migrant children ...
A case regarding the alleged abuse of migrant children in a Southwest Key shelter will be referred to the Maricopa County Attorney's Office for review and to determine whether criminal charges will be filed, according to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181230154449-arizona-republic-migrant-shelter-videos-super-tease.jpg


[31-Dec-18 04:48 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
inb4faiknooz


[31-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
you can see the video lol


[31-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Mikey#7286
clearly it's shopped


[31-Dec-18 04:55 AM] Mikey#7286
lololol


[31-Dec-18 06:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
These people are retarded,they should know about cameras


[31-Dec-18 06:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/423055-sanders-tears-into-wall-street-democrats-campaigning-against-his

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Sanders teases possible 2020 White House bid, tears into 'Wall Str...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Thursday slammed “Wall Street Democrats” campaigning against his progressive goals while teasing a possible 2020 White House bid.
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[31-Dec-18 07:45 AM] byte[]#2610
@Tecuane https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bp-claims-an-oil-spill-off-australia-s-coast-would-be-a-welcome-boost-to-local-economies-20180406-p4z867.html

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BP claims an oil spill off Australia's coast would be a 'welcome b...
Documents obtained under Freedom of Information laws reveal a series of claims by the oil giant.
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[31-Dec-18 07:45 AM] byte[]#2610
smh indeed


[31-Dec-18 07:46 AM] Tecuane#0001
"petroleum company tells people who don't want it to drill oil wells that it'll be fine, they promise"


[31-Dec-18 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/china-trade-war-soybean-brazil-billions-donald-trump-xi-jinping-agriculture-1274436

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Donald Trump's 'lose-lose' trade wars cost America and China $6bn ...
The duel for economic superiority between Beijing and Washington D.C. has cost each country $2.9 billion a year.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/12/29/u.s.-china-trade-war_0.jpg


[31-Dec-18 12:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
MERCANTALISM 2.0 HERE WE GO LADS


[31-Dec-18 12:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/gQzfa4iXxZ4

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donoteat01
https://youtu.be/gQzfa4iXxZ4
Cities Skylines | Franklin, Episode 2: New Norway
Welcome to Episode 2 of Franklin, where we develop the early colonies of New Norway. We will build three forts/trading posts, and talk about the economic and...
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[31-Dec-18 12:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
BRUSH UP


[31-Dec-18 12:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
WITH PHILLY MAN


[31-Dec-18 03:20 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-exploratory-committee-2020/index.html

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Elizabeth Warren launches exploratory committee ahead of likely 20...
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren took a major step toward a presidential run on Monday, announcing in a video message and email to supporters that she is forming an exploratory committee ahead of an expected campaign for the Democratic nomination in 2020.
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[31-Dec-18 03:20 PM] Litrojia#0612
It begins


[31-Dec-18 04:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd vote for Beto O'Rourke if he were to run tbh


[31-Dec-18 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really know who i;d vote for at this point


[31-Dec-18 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
if the democrats let hillary walk all over the primary again, trump will win again


[31-Dec-18 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Agreed tbh


[31-Dec-18 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary will do the exact same thing she did last election. she'll keep saying she's not running in 2020 and thne at the last minute she'll make her "surprise" entrance onto the scene acting like people were just begging for her return


[31-Dec-18 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile news stations will keep making conflicting reports about it while her aides tell reporters conflicting information


[31-Dec-18 04:39 PM] Litrojia#0612
I can't imagine people would want Hillary this time


[31-Dec-18 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really fucking dont


[31-Dec-18 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but she'll waltz in pretending we do because according to her it will be her turn and she's owed this for "handing the 2008 election to obama"


[31-Dec-18 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then when she loses she'll write yet another book about how it;severyone but her who's dumb and stupid for costing her the election


[31-Dec-18 04:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
The only ones who'd stick with her are the ones who wanted a female president, and that base may be taken by Warren and others


[31-Dec-18 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm all for a woman president, as logn as thye have mroe thna a vagina to stand on


[31-Dec-18 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like actual policies


[31-Dec-18 04:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
I don't care about gender in this case, but yeah I wouldn't vote for someone *because* she's a woman


[31-Dec-18 04:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
or any other demographic qualifier for that matter, besides maybe age


[31-Dec-18 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats went on a milestone high from electing a black president to the point where it blinded them


[31-Dec-18 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we can't have a good president we need to have a milestone president who breaks a record"


[31-Dec-18 04:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
Agreed


[31-Dec-18 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we need a woman president for the sake of a woman president so we look good to the public"


[31-Dec-18 05:02 PM] Crow#5457
did you know that if you tell a conservative that obama didn't do a bad thing they claim he did, they'll scream at you for being a braindead sheeple who can't see how obama was the worst thing to ever happen to this country


[31-Dec-18 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
it boils down to "if something bad happened, it was obama's fault"


[31-Dec-18 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
"if something good happened, it wasn't obama's fault"


[31-Dec-18 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
and a whole lot of "bad things" that obama did don't seem to exist anywhere other than extremist websites


[31-Dec-18 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama was a decent president, he wasnt the holy savior but he was a president tyrign to improve the country while delaing with a room full of tantrum throwers


[31-Dec-18 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
he was an ok president


[31-Dec-18 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
he expanded the NSA


[31-Dec-18 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
but he also expanded medical healthcare coverage and equality for gays and transgenders


[31-Dec-18 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his healthcare policysaved my dad from life in a wheel chair


[31-Dec-18 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
he also managed to convince iran to stop persuing nukes


[31-Dec-18 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
he managed to get the economy growing after the recession, but at a rate that it wouldn't overgrow and crash again


[31-Dec-18 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
which conservatives railed on him for


[31-Dec-18 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
the reason why the stock market took off under trump is basically because he ordered his appointed apartment heads to stop enforcing a bunch of regulations and EO'd others made under obama


[31-Dec-18 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
and it's why we're gonna crash again soon


[31-Dec-18 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a healthy stock market doesnt mean jakc shit in terms of economic health


[31-Dec-18 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump also jsut fired the one guy trying to keep the economy form crashing because he pointed out the economy was going to crash


[31-Dec-18 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile wallstreet and co. are preparing for the economy crahs with wallets at the ready to evict people form their houses and turn thme into parking lots


[31-Dec-18 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just buy out the property and then sit on it for 20 years while it collects dust and loses value because no one's cared for it but no one is allowed to live in it either because muh property values


[31-Dec-18 06:53 PM] Angrybro#0750
at this point hillary is a welcome change from the orange chip we have.


[31-Dec-18 07:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
No. Feel the Bern.


[31-Dec-18 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden your time while you feel the Bern. Don't let yourself be Trumped


[31-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm voting Republican


[31-Dec-18 08:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Fuck the idiotic left


[31-Dec-18 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d vote republican except the republicans are actively worse at the moment


[31-Dec-18 08:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump will get 4 more years cause 'murica always votes for the same as last time.


[31-Dec-18 08:08 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Nah Republicans are doing fine


[31-Dec-18 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i mena if you enjoy living in a box with broken limbs


[31-Dec-18 08:08 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What does that mean


[31-Dec-18 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that means you wont be able to afford medical coverage and housing prices will got horugh the roof while unemployment soars


[31-Dec-18 08:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's a bunch of bullshit


[31-Dec-18 08:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Give me your source


[31-Dec-18 08:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Of info


[31-Dec-18 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure give me a moment


[31-Dec-18 08:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Waiting for single payer to save me from the travesty of the present moment. This shit is too much stress and annoyance.


[31-Dec-18 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.heraldpalladium.com/news/local/job-market-posts-stagnant-results-in/article_364d2d46-4218-5f4d-bac4-99086d7d1d21.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2018/10/16/senate-republicans-set-sights-on-cutting-social-security/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/2018/12/30/bear-market-vs-recession-6-trends-watch-stock-market-2019/2422852002/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/conservative-health-care-experiment-leads-to-thousands-losing-coverage-1076876

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Job market posts stagnant results in 2018
Job growth in Southwest Michigan for 2018 was relatively flat compared to previous years, due to the region’s low unemployment rate.
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Senate Republicans Set Sights On Cutting Social Security
A key part of financial planning is understanding the roles the major government social insurance programs, Social Security, Medicare (and Medicaid) will play in your later years. Consider this: They are worth almost a million dollars to a middle-income American.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fdam%2Fimageserve%2F1043958998%2F960x0.jpg%3Ffit%3Dscale

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/2018/12/30/bear-market-vs-recession-6-trends-watch-stock-market-2019/2422852002/
Recession or bear market in 2019? What could happen with stock mar...
The investment story lines for 2019 will be dominated by indicators pointing to a possible recession and the end of the long bull market in stocks.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/452ef86946525e35b460e000d189e898936936cd/c=0-36-580-362/local/-/media/2018/12/27/USATODAY/usatsports/stock-market-crash-on-board-getty_large.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/30/conservative-health-care-experiment-leads-to-thousands-losing-coverage-1076876
Conservative health care experiment leads to thousands losing coverage
"I have pre-existing conditions. But all they could tell me was, 'sorry, you didn’t comply,'" said one Arkansan who lost coverage.
https://static.politico.com/5d/d4/964dfbe34f43b8b973442eb05208/181229-asa-hutchinson-ap-773.jpg


[31-Dec-18 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is current era republicans. in 2020 they'll have gone even crazier


[31-Dec-18 08:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Some of these news sorts are bs


[31-Dec-18 08:18 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Dont trust usa today and Forbes


[31-Dec-18 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then provide me some of your sources


[31-Dec-18 08:19 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Plus I look at diffrent news sorts besides these


[31-Dec-18 08:20 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2417937002

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Economy's strengths in 2019: Strong job market, consumer spending ...
A strong job market, healthy consumer spending and low inflation should drive growth in 2019. While the economy will slow, it should post solid gain.
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[31-Dec-18 08:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's also not forget that high rates of job offerings and these being taken doesn't mean much of anything when most people, to afford a decent standard of living have to work three of them to get along. So what the job market only really says is there's a lot of low quality jobs being taken and maybe 5% of folks either can't work then for age me, rich student, or medical reasons, or caught on and decided to take the anarchist way out: don't play the game


[31-Dec-18 08:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If your parents come from a country with  rules that allow citizenship for children such as Ireland you can apply and get much cheaper health care and even get a return if it is a simple health problem. Just for the cost of a flight and application form. Already cheaper than American health care.


[31-Dec-18 08:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal That's only holiday spending. That's not a sustained pattern of growth.


[31-Dec-18 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what about my grandpa?


[31-Dec-18 08:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Not sure. Never looked that up. Probably.


[31-Dec-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spending goes up in november and december due to christmas shopping


[31-Dec-18 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is a moron


[31-Dec-18 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not a real good indicator of economic health


[31-Dec-18 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
My mom lost her job due to trade war related stuff


[31-Dec-18 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lemme also just add as a Southern Michigander our job prospects these days are mostly in retail.


[31-Dec-18 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Do you get your news from Alex Jones @Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal


[31-Dec-18 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Oof


[31-Dec-18 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
So like, have fun having a quality life on 11 dollars an hour, even if work three of them.


[31-Dec-18 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m going into hvac and due to tarrifs and other bullshit, tools,equipment, the conditioners and heaters themselves will likely go up in prices leaving hvac wages smaller sicne technicians have to buy their own equipment


[31-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
Really, the Trump administration has done little for the working class


[31-Dec-18 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
The right doesn't care about them any more than the left


[31-Dec-18 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thr right is basically run by a corporate board of directors at this point


[31-Dec-18 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the left is confusing as hell


[31-Dec-18 08:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont know anymore


[31-Dec-18 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[31-Dec-18 08:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think this may-may is valid

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[31-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
Don't act like the right cares about you @Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal because they really don't


[31-Dec-18 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to vote for a third party but our current political climate is too polarized to make that work


[31-Dec-18 08:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
This is why I'm really turning into a independent


[31-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Mikey#7286
If the Dems push Hilary again I'm not voting at all


[31-Dec-18 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was a gung ho democrat durign the obama years but overtime i kinda lost the illusion of "democrats good, republicans bad"


[31-Dec-18 08:28 PM] Mikey#7286
And I refuse to vote for a childish manbaby narcissist


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i voted bernie because he had a genuine drive to help people and we need mroe of that


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
How to be politically shortsighted: the channel


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd have voted for him but like


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But Bernie is bad becuase sooical is in


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Why not join AnCom gang we have mutual aid and bearded santa


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Socialism


[31-Dec-18 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I never got around in the primaries


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610

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[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Huehue Bernie was socialist


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Nice meme


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the primaries shouldnt evne be a thing


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Bernie is socialist


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Bernie was really more of a Social Democrat than even a Democratic Socialist in the Labour sense.


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie is a democratic socialist


[31-Dec-18 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a difference


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The media: Bernie is a Socialist Jew.


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Then basically we would not be free


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Not actual socialism


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt want to get rid of capitalism he wants to make it work in a system that works with the people


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Not free from what?


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Our healthcare system is fucking garbage


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Free speech


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Bernie wanted to change that


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal How so?


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now i have no medical coverage


[31-Dec-18 08:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
More debt


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Giving the sjws what they want


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
I pay out the ass for independent health


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
No


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Mikey#7286
You're wrong


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if ig et sick or break a bone i'm fucked for life


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal How is that a bad thing?


[31-Dec-18 08:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont know I voted for trump becuase it was that or I could not vote at all


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
You should have not voted at all


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
working only gets you coverage if a company is willing to hire you full tiem which thye  arent


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is a corrupt businessman


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal So you don't know why this is good or bad at all, just that it's a thing?


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
He cares about the bottom line


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
His line


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Cuz that's what daddy taught him


[31-Dec-18 08:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm stuck in hell


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and because daddy was always there to bail him out he doesnt know how to handle not gettign his way


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I cant really do anything


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Mmmhm


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i feel that way too


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becusse of my parents


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] Mikey#7286
And gave him $30m that he didn't pay taxes on


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Want me to let you into a secret that's been known since John Locke, the founder of liberalism; our current political ideology?


[31-Dec-18 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m goign to college now but who knows if my degree will be worth shit in half a year or more


[31-Dec-18 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s a stem course


[31-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm center left because I hate far leftism and the right wants to hold back progress on climate activism and science and NASA


[31-Dec-18 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
And are full of old buffoons


[31-Dec-18 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and work is becoming less of a give and take relationship and more of a "work for me until you die in a cardboard box" kinda relationship


[31-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[31-Dec-18 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Basically


[31-Dec-18 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wwork is no longer jsut work


[31-Dec-18 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ya'll need to join a radical union and not just these limo-dicked roll over in the grave Unions.


[31-Dec-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in a rifght to work states


[31-Dec-18 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have no unions


[31-Dec-18 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Be like the teachers from Virginia and Oklahoma.


[31-Dec-18 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, fuck that shit. Get in touch with the IWW and they'll give you support if you really want it


[31-Dec-18 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iww?


[31-Dec-18 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're going to basically have to start over from scratch like the Gilded Age. But instead of crossing immigrant language barriers it's cutting through apathy.


[31-Dec-18 08:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
My parents forced me to be Republican


[31-Dec-18 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Industrial Workers of the World.


[31-Dec-18 08:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
If not they say thier is gonna be a war and I'm the first one to go


[31-Dec-18 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
The oldest post-radical union


[31-Dec-18 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah hardcore party liens were developed  the last few generatiosn we need to break out of


[31-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm stuck in hell


[31-Dec-18 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Man, if you can split from or something. Your chance will be when you move off to college.


[31-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
They always get whatever the fuck they want and I'm over it


[31-Dec-18 08:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I cant


[31-Dec-18 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Oh? How come?


[31-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm stuck


[31-Dec-18 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal How so, no money?


[31-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase my parents won't let me go


[31-Dec-18 08:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And if I do they put me in a grouphome


[31-Dec-18 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Huh. No college opportunity to help get out?


[31-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No


[31-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's why I pray to die


[31-Dec-18 08:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:Downvote:


[31-Dec-18 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
🤔  That would have been my socially acceptable option.


[31-Dec-18 08:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What?


[31-Dec-18 08:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
The next option would be, and I don't know your area, to find an Anarchist group and see what they can do. Generally if they're left-anarchist they either own a place collectively they use as a boarding house for people, or squatting on something. If the mission is to get out of the wings of your parents then that's an option. But that's only limited to what you have in your area, and I don't know that at all.


[31-Dec-18 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or you could do your army service now, that'll give you a couple Grand bonus right away plus however much depending on specialization, and if you save that you could have the funds to go do something else, plus GI bill. The military is really the only other option to break out of your economic conditions these days. Not like there's free on very low cost college in this country.


[31-Dec-18 08:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
I get the feeling your parents would like that last one, not the one where you move off to a commune to restart.


[31-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I cant even go to the military


[31-Dec-18 08:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase that told everyone that I am Mr


[31-Dec-18 08:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Mentally retarded


[31-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Or I can start a youtube


[31-Dec-18 08:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I just dont know


[31-Dec-18 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to the smoky haze of the modern world.


[31-Dec-18 08:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yeah


[31-Dec-18 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-citizen-paul-whelan-detained-by-russia-for-suspected-espionage

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US citizen Paul Whelan detained by Russia for suspected espionage
An American has been arrested in Moscow on suspicion of spying, according to Russian officials.
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[31-Dec-18 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-dialogue/putin-tells-trump-that-moscow-is-open-for-dialogue-idUSKCN1OT07W

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Putin tells Trump that Moscow is open for dialogue
Russian President Vladimir Putin told his U.S. counterpart Donald Trump in a New...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181230&t=2&i=1340376289&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEBT06H


[31-Dec-18 10:05 PM] moonatik#3676
elizabeth warren is almost certainly running for president


[31-Dec-18 10:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
What if we go back to the days of campaigning like the good old days when the candidates did absolutely nothing.


[31-Dec-18 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
i imagine her campaign will go something like this:
day 1: we need to get money out of politics!
day 2: i mean dark money, dont want to get rid of the honest donors
day 3: there are far too many dirty donors! the system is hideously corrupt!
day 4: but my party is clean, dont worry
day 5: if we're gonna win this we need to fight hard! the last primary was rigged as all hell!
day 6: well maybe "rigged" is a strong word...


[31-Dec-18 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
her slogan should be "1/2020th"


[31-Dec-18 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) I thought Jake or Logan Paul got detained by Putin for a second and was excited


[31-Dec-18 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"CAUGHT SPYING IN RUSSIA?! *NOT CLICKBAIT* *ALMOST POISONED*"


[31-Dec-18 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@moonatik fuck you I chuckled


[31-Dec-18 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
stealing that


[31-Dec-18 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope someone runs with "Hindsight is 2020", somehow


[31-Dec-18 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Technically Warren was right but no one likes technicalities


[31-Dec-18 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Technically Hindsight is 2020 but no one cares, so I won't take office until 2021."


[31-Dec-18 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh good, there'll be a presidential address tonight on state media


[31-Dec-18 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Just so you know: we're doing very good. Absolutely excellent. The stock market rebounded. We're gucci. I'm buying everyone on my staff a gucci jacket. That's like the nation. It's excellent."


[31-Dec-18 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's gonna get asked about Warren


[31-Dec-18 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And he's going to say something genuinely offensive and retarded


[31-Dec-18 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And everyone will just ignore it


[31-Dec-18 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Beto should get it


[31-Dec-18 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't tell me that someone who just barely lost in Texas isn't a Democratic goal


[31-Dec-18 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just have trump redacted out of existance in 2019?


[31-Dec-18 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/uXDI6TE.png

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[31-Dec-18 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
<https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1077329121745793025>


[31-Dec-18 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
wew


[31-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/gQU72pY.jpg

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[31-Dec-18 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
the illuminati got her before she could finish the tweet D:


[31-Dec-18 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she was never seen again


[01-Jan-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/423339-gop-lawmaker-suggests-trump-use-his-own-money-to-help-pay-for-border-wall

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GOP lawmaker suggests Trump use some of his own money to help pay ...
Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) said that President Trump should considering tapping into his personal funds to help pay for a wall along the southern border.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_12272018.jpeg


[01-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
>Trump
>help


[01-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Rofl


[01-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
He doesn't even have a billion


[01-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/us/tony-albert-seguin-texas-gun.html

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Armed Man in Tactical Clothing Headed to a Texas Church to ‘Fulf...
The man stopped at a restaurant restroom for 30 minutes before emerging wearing a surgical face mask and gripping a loaded handgun, witnesses and the police said.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/31/us/31xp-arrest-copy/31xp-arrest-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Jan-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[01-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
3 months until the UK leaves the EU


[01-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:brexitLUL:


[01-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Orion Starshade

What will happen in particular?


[01-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Some see it as a serious issue.


[01-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Recession is likely


[01-Jan-19 08:06 AM] sectioned#3090
I hear Warren's running lmao


[01-Jan-19 08:06 AM] sectioned#3090
she's gonna get trounced just like Hillary


[01-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By Beto or Biden in primaries


[01-Jan-19 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/federal-workers-suing-us-government-shutdown/story?id=60096904

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Federal workers are suing the US government over the shutdown
Federal workers who have been working without pay since the government shutdown began, and a major union is now suing the government.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/capitol-government-shutdown-epa-jef-181226_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[01-Jan-19 10:03 AM] moonatik#3676
beto aint worth it


[01-Jan-19 10:03 AM] moonatik#3676
beto is basically a watered down obama


[01-Jan-19 10:04 AM] moonatik#3676
really charismatic and great at mobilising people, but just another milquetoast politician when it comes to the whole governing thing


[01-Jan-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
if he's not neoliberal, he's not a watered down obama


[01-Jan-19 10:04 AM] moonatik#3676
he pretty much is a neoliberal


[01-Jan-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
if he's neoliberal, then he's like 90% of politicians in the US


[01-Jan-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is the main part of why the US is sinking, they practically live to be bribed


[01-Jan-19 10:09 AM] moonatik#3676
it's why bernie is the only candidate I'd ever support for president


[01-Jan-19 10:09 AM] moonatik#3676
he's the only one with a chance that hasn't been tainted by neoliberalism


[01-Jan-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-tulsi-gabbard-seriously-considering-a-2020-white-house-bid/2018/12/13/e91d31b0-fec9-11e8-862a-b6a6f3ce8199_story.html


[01-Jan-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
have you heard of gabbard


[01-Jan-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
comments claim she's anti-abortion, but she voted no on every anti-abortion law that's come up in the house


[01-Jan-19 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard#LGBT_issues>


[01-Jan-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently before she served as a combat medic in iraq, she was anti-gay, but afterwards claims she was pro-gay, and her voting signifies this change as well


[01-Jan-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
comments also claimed she was anti-gay


[01-Jan-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
the only real issue that I've found with her is her denial of assad using chemical weapons on his own people in syria


[01-Jan-19 10:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61CD8eOTolo&t=0s

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[01-Jan-19 11:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwUaUf_pOs

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Hakim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwUaUf_pOs
Jordan Peterson Is Everything He Criticizes (And Can't Read)
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[01-Jan-19 11:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Serious video


[01-Jan-19 12:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Never mind not all ants can work because tunnels and narrow spaces don't facilitate everyone doing the same way because they get in the way.


[01-Jan-19 12:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
See: village management in Age of Empires 2, my experiences with working paint at work.


[01-Jan-19 12:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can't put everyone on the same pallet of new paint, because we'll all get in each other's way trying to get to the shelf.


[01-Jan-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
>these ants are fuckin communist


[01-Jan-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.599526284.6878/flat,1000x1000,075,f.u1.jpg

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[01-Jan-19 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/1031723767049805824

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https://twitter.com/shujaxhaider/status/1031723767049805824
The study goes on to show that when the most active ants were removed, others took their places and productivity remained the same. In other words they distribute labor evenly in order to maximize leisure time for everyone in the colony. These ants are fuckin communists ht...
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[01-Jan-19 12:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
can we do this plas i want to have more leisure.


[01-Jan-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
I like that part where he quotes orwell, and I get the feeling why the main reason that socialism hasn't taken root on its own is because the CIA spent over 4 decades uprooting the democratically elected saplings and leaving them to be overgrown by autocratic weeds


[01-Jan-19 12:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Be Latin America


[01-Jan-19 12:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Elect a guy who wants economic justice, irregardless of whether they're really a socialist or not or just a left-liberal even.


[01-Jan-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
and that sort of thinking is the heart of capitalism, even within itself it spends more time uprooting potential competitors using bribery than actually growing itself


[01-Jan-19 12:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
>CIA Ni🅱🅱as - "COUP   T I E M"


[01-Jan-19 12:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lenin wrote a book/pamphlet about this sort of thing, about how wealth naturally concentrates and that at least by his time the nature of capitalism has shifted from good focus to means focused, where the capacity to produce is more valuable than the sake of production for value. So where Marx wrote that the competition of capitalism will inevitably lead to concentration, the next phase as indicated by Lenin was a move to further concentration of the capital production through acquisition of the means, as the capitalist class has shrunk enough to form oligarchies and combinations to preserve their own collective profit margins and form a bulwark against any new competition; in much the same way Standard Oil would and could by their concentration of productive capabilities be able to plunge the price of oil below the rate of profit to force closed all competition, or even how JP Morgan (I think) formed vast industrial conglomerates and would crash the entire market to fuck up a rival.


[01-Jan-19 12:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was an instance where a rival to Morgan attempted to move in on his rail business by trying to buy out shares to a company Morgan had just bought in order to do what was basically an overnight hostile take over. Morgan found and smashed everything and the market dove into a depression. Teddy Roosevelt caught wind and basically had to force Morgan to join a federal body convened to negotiate the economy out of it to fix the depression he caused as a retaliatory move.


[01-Jan-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46727991

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US military sorry for New Year nuke tweet
Strategic Command, which oversees US nuclear weapons, tweeted that it was "ready to drop something".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/8B1C/production/_105021653_strategiccommandimage.jpg


[01-Jan-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
... that seal is kind of ostentatious


[01-Jan-19 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-people/afghanistans-neighbors-fear-refugee-crisis-if-us-pulls-out-idUSKCN1OV1E4

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Afghanistan's neighbors fear refugee crisis if U.S. pulls out
Afghanistan's neighbors, caught off-guard by reports of U.S. plans to withd...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190101&t=2&i=1340966504&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF000XA


[01-Jan-19 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
WHO'S READY FOR IRAQ 2.0!?


[01-Jan-19 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
next up on the list, SUPER ISIS!!!!!


[01-Jan-19 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
seriously, there's people actually justifying it when trump does it while simultaneously somehow absolutely loathing obama for doing it


[01-Jan-19 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
granted, it seems to have somewhat shaken the infallibility of trump in the minds of some conservatives


[01-Jan-19 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope they get results form that lawsuit


[01-Jan-19 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder when we get vietnam the revengening


[01-Jan-19 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
contrarians are the worst fuckign things in politics outside of neo liberals


[01-Jan-19 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"well it's only ok if my party does it, otherwise it's evil and monstrous if done by the other team"


[01-Jan-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/12/30/politics/lindsey-graham-isis-syria-trump/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.au%2F

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Graham: Trump still wants to leave Syria, but will reevaluate plan...
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested Sunday President Donald Trump now better understands the stakes in Syria and has agreed to reevaluate, for now, his plans to immediately withdraw all US troops from the country.
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[01-Jan-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46719057

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Kim Jong-un warns of 'change in direction'
The North Korean leader wants the US to "keep its promises" in exchange for denuclearisation.
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[01-Jan-19 03:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, Jair M. Bolsonaro is going through the presidential ceremony today to take the reins of Brazilian government


[01-Jan-19 03:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope the nincompoop gets caught in the inevitable corruption scandal. He's exactly like Fernando Collor, only with more toxic masculinity and Murican bootlicking.


[01-Jan-19 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/world/americas/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-president.html

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Brazil Wanted Change. Even Before Taking Office, Jair Bolsonaro De...
In electing Mr. Bolsonaro, a far-right politician who becomes president on Tuesday, voters signaled a desire for radical change. It is already underway.
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[01-Jan-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-obama-home-wall-20181231-story.html

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Trump claims there's a 10-foot wall around the Obamas' D.C. home. ...
In one of his most recent arguments for a southern border wall, Trump falsely claimed that the Obamas' home in D.C. is surrounded by a 10-foot wall.
https://www.trbimg.com/img-5c2a833a/turbine/ct-obama-home-wall-20181231


[01-Jan-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-compares-border-wall-wall-around-obama-home-n953166

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Trump compares border wall to 'Wall around' Obama home
The president's tweet comes amid a partial government shutdown that began over his demand that Congress fund a $5 billion wall on the southern border.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_01/2699936/181231-barack-obama-house-kalorama-cs-929a_c8beb1674842299bec331fda0c05ef10.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[01-Jan-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/government-shutdown-employees-not-getting-paid-feds-suggestion-carpentry-pay-1273776

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Government recommends employees struggling to pay rent to work as ...
The OPM posted letter templates that can be sent to creditors explaining personal financial difficulties for government workers during the shutdown.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/12/28/gettyimages-1086344672.jpg


[01-Jan-19 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To note, similar notices were sent out during shutdowns while Obama was president


[01-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not so much a "Trump/GOP are evil" thing as much as "DC government is completely disconnected from the country's population"


[01-Jan-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[01-Jan-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this ties mroe into the lawsuit piece form earlier than the trump part of the shutdown


[01-Jan-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Jan-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
furloughed employees also qualify for unemployment too


[02-Jan-19 12:22 AM] moonatik#3676
leaving afghanistan is a good thing


[02-Jan-19 12:23 AM] moonatik#3676
the US has been there 17 years and has nothing to show for it other than an even more broken afghanistan and a dead terrorist leader


[02-Jan-19 12:23 AM] moonatik#3676
if trump is really pulling out of afghanistan, **good**


[02-Jan-19 12:24 AM] moonatik#3676
western presence has made things worse for everyone


[02-Jan-19 12:25 AM] moonatik#3676
personally I doubt trump will completely pull out, but if he does, he's right to do so


[02-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
do you know what allowed ISIS to form to begin with?


[02-Jan-19 12:28 AM] moonatik#3676
when the US decided "ooh honey lookie at this iraq they need a change or two"


[02-Jan-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
no


[02-Jan-19 12:29 AM] moonatik#3676
also the taliban controls 60% of afghanistan already


[02-Jan-19 12:29 AM] moonatik#3676
there's your "super ISIS"


[02-Jan-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's when the US left iraq before it was back on its feet


[02-Jan-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
afghanistan is in an even worse position


[02-Jan-19 12:30 AM] moonatik#3676
and the US has been there for 17 years


[02-Jan-19 12:30 AM] moonatik#3676
I don't think their presence is improving anything


[02-Jan-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-people/afghanistans-neighbors-fear-refugee-crisis-if-us-pulls-out-idUSKCN1OV1E4

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Afghanistan's neighbors fear refugee crisis if U.S. pulls out
Afghanistan's neighbors, caught off-guard by reports of U.S. plans to withd...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190101&t=2&i=1341001510&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF000XA


[02-Jan-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
it might not be improving anything, but it's definitely keeping things from getting worse


[02-Jan-19 12:30 AM] moonatik#3676
yes I know you already posted that


[02-Jan-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why would we want to leave Afghanistan it's paying for some important person's salary somewhere. :^)


[02-Jan-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can't let Iran get control of it either and add it to their sphere. That would be   s p o o k y


[02-Jan-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
taliban would just start shitting all over it again, not even sure if there's any ancient statues left that haven't been defaced or blown up


[02-Jan-19 12:33 AM] moonatik#3676
I thought we learnt this lesson after vietnam


[02-Jan-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well more relevantly might be the possibility of the Chinese adding it to their sphere of influence. The Chinese don't often show any qualms with nations on the edge and they throwing money at it as they do as a tendency of  making friends.


[02-Jan-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the money they throw doesn't go to a security state so much. Their corridor project in Pakistan is much more an infrastructural project running from north to south with a long and broad effect along it.


[02-Jan-19 12:34 AM] moonatik#3676
actually that sounds like a good idea


[02-Jan-19 12:34 AM] moonatik#3676
let china have afghanistan


[02-Jan-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
And like someone with a bad habit, we can't admit failure so double down on what we do.


[02-Jan-19 12:34 AM] moonatik#3676
maybe they can end up like their old buddy the USSR did


[02-Jan-19 12:35 AM] moonatik#3676
wait


[02-Jan-19 12:35 AM] moonatik#3676
did you seriously just suggest that the chinese infrastructure stuff in pakistan isn't about their own "defense" interests


[02-Jan-19 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's economic interest to rebuild the silk road, or make a modern one. They're not putting soldiers there, just putting in for infrstructural investment so Eastern China has direct access to the sea.


[02-Jan-19 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Much in the same way they invested in building a direct rail connection to the UK.


[02-Jan-19 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Chinese have a large development account program where they issue out loans to other countries to build their infrastructure on the pretense that it'll open doors to Chinese business. It's what they're doing in southern Asia and East Africa.


[02-Jan-19 12:38 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah


[02-Jan-19 12:38 AM] moonatik#3676
no


[02-Jan-19 12:39 AM] moonatik#3676
setting up countries into debt traps and building naval ports that could very easily be used for military purposes isn't about rebuilding the silk road, it's neocolonialism


[02-Jan-19 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
That is of course what people point out, and they're not wrong.


[02-Jan-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
all they really want is a bunch of military bases without the work, they aren't interested in taking over the countries


[02-Jan-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
But compared to what the US does, it's not as obvious. It's a far more layered neo colonial project.


[02-Jan-19 12:40 AM] moonatik#3676
oh please


[02-Jan-19 12:40 AM] moonatik#3676
I saw that whataboutism from a mile away


[02-Jan-19 12:40 AM] moonatik#3676
colonialism and such is bad no matter who does it


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
who said colonialism is good?


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm not disagreeing with you there. But as I said earlier: "But compared to what the US does, it's not as obvious. It's a far more layered neo colonial project."


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
no one said that


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're reading into what I'm said what is not there.


[02-Jan-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Settle down


[02-Jan-19 12:42 AM] moonatik#3676
oops sorry


[02-Jan-19 12:42 AM] moonatik#3676
I read "but compared to the US" and assumed the worst


[02-Jan-19 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
What can also be said of the Chinese project though is that it's gotten a lot more attention from western media for what we do, than we pay attention to our own things. But I've read finance articles that do flat out admit the Chinese are more willing to dive into far more unstable environments than western finance capital which they contend is out maneuvering our own finance industry. But they don't ever dream to admit what we do is phase one of a neo colonial project of our own, as the west.


[02-Jan-19 12:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's only really shit discussed by the likes of Confessions of an Economic Hitman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVsB07CcSNw

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[02-Jan-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
china's not doing it for economic gain, which is why all capitalist companies exist


[02-Jan-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
it's doing it for sociopolitical gain


[02-Jan-19 12:46 AM] moonatik#3676
I've said this before and I'll say it again


[02-Jan-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
since there's basically no chance that a capitalist corporation will get back its investment, they don't bother trying to begin with


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] moonatik#3676
the people's republic of china is the worst parts of capitalism and state socialism rolled up into one nasty package


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
State Capitalism*


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] moonatik#3676
fuck


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is the prolongation of the post-revolutionary stage Lenin declared


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Stalin decided was the end goal


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] moonatik#3676
I made the term "state socialism" to avoid getting shit like that


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
lol


[02-Jan-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
and the corporation has no interest in taking over the cities and other infrastructure that they would build for these countries


[02-Jan-19 12:48 AM] moonatik#3676
I'm trying to make compromises here thanks


[02-Jan-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
but china is actually relying on the fact that the countries can't or won't pay back the investments so that they effectively get to own the infrastructure they're building


[02-Jan-19 12:48 AM] moonatik#3676
also I love that concept


[02-Jan-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's a less intrusive method of colonialism


[02-Jan-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
since china isn't interested in the countries themselves, just being able to build their own infrastructure through them


[02-Jan-19 12:49 AM] moonatik#3676
"first there's da revolution, then we become a tyrannical authoritarian statist nightmare, and then we transition to fully automated gay space communism"


[02-Jan-19 12:50 AM] moonatik#3676
"just gotta trust me on that, we'll go through the transition, promise"


[02-Jan-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR didn't become a tyrannical authoritarian statist nightmare until stalin took over though


[02-Jan-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
stalin took the USSR in a completely different direction than what lenin and trotsky wanted


[02-Jan-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
lenin apparently wanted to do what china's doing now back in the 20's and 30's because the USSR "couldn't handle any more communism at this point"


[02-Jan-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
and he was right


[02-Jan-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
and also both he and trotsky wanted to export communism and help grow the global revolution, while stalin thought it was a stupid idea and waste of money/resources, so he abandoned that direction


[02-Jan-19 12:52 AM] moonatik#3676
I think we all know stalin was a special kind of monster


[02-Jan-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
If we need historical context for the term or use of "state capitalism", then it's something Lenin started using in a positive context between 1918 and the New Economic Reforms of the 1920's where it was one of the five principles of the development of Russia so it could make the transition. The trouble is after he died and Stalin took power Stalin took the easy way out after or during WW2 to smooth over tensions by implying no further revolution is needed by declaring the seizure of economic resources for the war effort against the Nazis as achieving socialism, and not really just a strengthening of the state capitalist aspect of the USSR. The result is of course the continued commodity production and alienation of the worker from their production.


[02-Jan-19 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's something Bakunin critiqued Marx for during the First International as an inevitable possibility for state-based revolution.


[02-Jan-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
it would've been interesting to see a bolstered communist party face off against nazism in weimar germany


[02-Jan-19 12:53 AM] moonatik#3676
we did see that


[02-Jan-19 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well we sorta had that in Luxembourg's revolt, but that got crushed by the SPD.


[02-Jan-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Soviets I *think* were trying to get there to help, but Poland was in the way.


[02-Jan-19 12:54 AM] moonatik#3676
weimar berlin was called "red berlin" for the longest time for a reason


[02-Jan-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
not really, stalin didn't believe in large-scale support of communism internationally


[02-Jan-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Luxembourg's revolt was during Lenin's term.


[02-Jan-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
I meant after ww1 though


[02-Jan-19 12:55 AM] moonatik#3676
*but who cares about luxemburg lol*


[02-Jan-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
it probably wouldn't have done much to stymie the nazi party, but maybe keep it from gaining absolute power for another year or two


[02-Jan-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though Lenin was critical of Luxembourgism who was also a socialist-in-one-state type and famously said she didn't want to liberate other people herself, that job was their own. She wouldn't intervene in the name of anyone else.


[02-Jan-19 12:55 AM] moonatik#3676
*no offense to any luxemburg-ians but nobody cares*


[02-Jan-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
RIP Rosa


[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] moonatik#3676
most of the world (that cares) just knows luxembourg as the HOI4 meme country


[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Luxemburg#German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

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[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] moonatik#3676
oh wait lol


[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I misspelled her name


[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
RIP me


[02-Jan-19 12:56 AM] moonatik#3676
wrong luxembourg


[02-Jan-19 12:57 AM] moonatik#3676
F


[02-Jan-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lenin a fool, SPD a weak. Make enemies with everyone. I am Rose Woman.


[02-Jan-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

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[02-Jan-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since we're on about inter-war communism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzHQM7vDiHc

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Imperialism The Highest Stage of Capitalism - Review (ft. Peter Co...
Radical Reviewer and Peter Coffin review Vladimir Lenin's book Imperialism the Highest Stage of Capitalism.
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[02-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
wait, did he just use the same loop of his dog over and over again


[02-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
he looped it at least twice for the first 1 minute, then it changed


[02-Jan-19 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think so, but you try getting a dog to sit still for more than five minutes.


[02-Jan-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've tried to photography my mom's dogs and they don't like to sit still unless the pitbull is lying down. Otherwise she gets interested in me taking interest and has to come over to get pet.


[02-Jan-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
The other dog, a spring spaniel, is a spring compressed that's been released, but she never stops.


[02-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing with Stalin is that a Stalin was inevitable in the system they made


[02-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The approach was that once the party decided on something, debate was off-limits


[02-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
this meant no possibility of undoing a harmful change


[02-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and enforcement mechanisms to keep people in line


[02-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only the NEP had gone on forever


[02-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
which meant that as soon as one person got some power, he could make a decision against his political opponents and thereby become a dictator


[02-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you need some kind of mechanism to reverse course


[02-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise you just hav a slippery slope


[02-Jan-19 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
Watch/listen to/read Michael Parenti, basically all socialist states have had what's called Siege Socialism


[02-Jan-19 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
when countries surrounding you, north, south, east, west want to destabilize and invade you, everything paranoid seems rational.


[02-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[02-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviet Union did not hav anyone really wanting to invade it.


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Everyone wanted to invade and destabilize, destroy the soviet union.
Finland was fucking their shit up, the US and the UK had plans to let germany destroy it


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
among others


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like a gigantic stretch.


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
basically all western powers wanted to fuck it's shit up


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
just history


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Winston Churchill had plans


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about pre-World War 2


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
before Churchill was in power


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
even before, America was in fear


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Finland had no real plans


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
sounds like BS to me.


[02-Jan-19 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

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Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War
The Allied intervention was a multi-national military expedition launched during the Russian Civil War in 1918. The stated goals were to help the Czechoslovak Legion, to secure supplies of munitions and armaments in Russian ports, and to re-establish the Eastern Front. After ...
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[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Americans had arrest warrants for visiting russia after the revolution


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
as did other US allies


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, everyone wants to fight the Soviets after they've literally started going to war


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
documents praising the Bolshevik revolution were seized.


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't mean the US was gonna invade


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
was made almost totally illegal to praise them


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just the US had an enemy to use to gain political support


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
or report anything not approved


[02-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your argument is incoherent.


[02-Jan-19 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Watch Reds, 1981, it's a nice historical drama about Emma Goldman and John Reed


[02-Jan-19 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can learn stuff in movie form


[02-Jan-19 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
has old people who were there and their accounts as witnesses


[02-Jan-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Here's Nebbie, arguing from the safety of the present moment looking back in hindsight, not realizing that in a state of condition where everyone can't know anything the assumption was for the worst since people were directly stepping in to intervene before.


[02-Jan-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even fucking Patton wanted to continue the war too post WW2 to finish a weakened Soviet state off. It wasn't an inconcievable idea.


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or Ike


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Both during and after the revolution, essentially all capitalist powers were intervening in some way


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
One of the two


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
whether directly or indirectly (censoring their own press, ect)


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
And in the Cold War the Soviet perception of the west was an international alliance surrounding them.


[02-Jan-19 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
utilizing social systems to craft red scare


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
At any moment if they dropped their guard the fear was Barbarosa 2.0


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
The USSR was never aggressive during the cold war too, only defensive, the military tech improvements were a game of leapfrog


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
US improves with fancy shit, threatens USSR


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
USSR has to research to counter it


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
leapfrog


[02-Jan-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
you'll notice that deployed ships, ect were defensive, no aircraft carriers, ect


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
USSR also makes up some shit to force the US in the wrong direction and hopefully bankrupt its RnD, gets to take a breath


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@AaronMk the problem is that every state has enemies and that doesn't seem to be special for socialism


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, the timing of it all doesn't make sense with the soviets


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Everyone was happy to be friends with the Tsar


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin was paranoid from the very beginning


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
that benefited capitalism


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
that paranoia was rational given what was happening on a global scale


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Nebbie Oh how wrong you are.

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[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
even if it's results were shit


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
while the Soviet Union had *political* enemies, nobody was gonna fukking invade


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
again, with siege


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
paranoia seems rational


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
because they killed 7 out 10 nazis?


[02-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This same argument could be done with any political system


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
other allies did fucking nothing lmao


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
every country has an enemy


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and paranoia can always be justified by having enemies


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and revolution tends to coincide with political instability that creates enemies


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
the USSR did not make enemies, it actually seeked to trade with capitalist nations


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
they were forced to trade essentially only using grain


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
because of economic sanctions


[02-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't matter


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
economic sanctions are acts of aggression btw


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just overthrowing a monarch can create political attention.


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a declaration of hostility


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a huge stretch to begin with


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
USSR did not make it's enemies


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but these things happen to any country


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's enemies chose to make them it's enemies out of fear


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was nothing special about socialism for this.


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
fear of the spreading socialist spectre


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Socialism was very popular at the time among workers


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Germany had it's own 1918 revolution


[02-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just look to revolutionary france and that whole mess


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
was gunned down by porkies


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
> every country has an enemy
That's not the same as having NATO choosing extinction over Communism tho


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the revolution starting caused war


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
The Revolution was a large deal related to workers deserting WW1


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
joining the Bolshevik cause.


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overthrowing a leader that people hav ties with and forming a new government that's opposed to that leader's ideas is generally unpopular with other countries who were friendly with that leader.


[02-Jan-19 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
as they were soldiers, forced by the Tsar to join a capitalist war


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
Socialist were always against WW1


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting forward political notions that create a huge us vs. them mentality around your economic systems is also kind of a big deal


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
the then American President was voted in on anti-war promises


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
which were broken 6 months later


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
funny that


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
how it helped the economy


[02-Jan-19 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
how war is necessary to prop up capitalism


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, these things create enemies, socialism is just a political ideal to justify aspects of them.


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
uwu, notices your great depression


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
WAR TIME


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism works much better without war


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
war is very, very, very profitable


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
and offers many, many, many jobs


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were major programs going on to solve the great depression


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
very profitable jobs


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
war is costly


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and war loses money overall


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has a horrendously negative ROI


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
What the fuck else would the people do? Let the tzar keep sending them to die in a wildly unpopular war just because it was better for foreign relations?


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the main reason it causes any growth eventually is it spurs R&D


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and the government keeps bloating the military budget


[02-Jan-19 06:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Soviet fear of the outside non-revolutionary climate is pretty justified historically, to be honest. Even outside the circumstances of Socialist revolution liberal revolution has been resisted by other states as well. Part of the context of the French Revolution was repeated wars of coalition against the French to restore the monarchy or block French expansion.


[02-Jan-19 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Over throwing a king is a big deal, esspecially when that king is family of Europe's leading powers.


[02-Jan-19 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
And over all the political system is directly antagonistic to the leader political dogma of liberal democracies.


[02-Jan-19 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
After all, if it can happen in Russia, it can happen in Germany; and did.


[02-Jan-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if it can happen in Russia, it can happen in the US; which was at a state in its social economy it could.


[02-Jan-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Revolutionary movements across the world were given a boost by the bolshevik revolution and a model of possibility, never mind critique from the revolutionary groups of the other countries even.


[02-Jan-19 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
So making an attempt to nip that in the bud like the post-war invasion of the USSR by allied forces was a rational decision by the liberal nations.


[02-Jan-19 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
And fearing any future strikes by the Soviets later, especially in the period of nuclear mobilization of the Cold War.


[02-Jan-19 06:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Both sides then effectively feared one another in direct or indirect means and a unspoken no-surrender policy didn't make de-escalation easier. More so with the United States who after WW2 went with a hardline containment policy of the USSR, with the post-war years seeing the continuation of revolutionary activity that began in the interwar; the Chinese Revolution.


[02-Jan-19 06:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a historical repeat of the French Revolutionary period in a way. Where a state, positioning itself as the philosophical antithesis to liberal democracy and capitalism arising to challenging it and like the monarchist powers of the time of France, the liberal powers felt compelled to rise to resist and contain it.


[02-Jan-19 06:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Granted we didn't have fucking eight wars of the coalition against the Soviet Union, and instead some sixty years of proxy conflict egged on by continual revolutionary activity in the colonial global south; Africa and America's back door, Latin America.


[02-Jan-19 06:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even if a struggle wasn't armed but elective it was itself threatened by the US which in turned did force governments to allign with the Soviet Union, because the US has even before WW1 proved itself to be very hostile to reformist governments in order to protect its political and economic interests, and that's not to speak of the old imperial powers of Europe.


[02-Jan-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1065834/Brazil-election-latest-Jair-Bolsonaro-political-correctness-donald-trump

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'I am a LIBERATOR!' Bolsonaro declares he has FREED Brazil from 'p...
BRAZIL’S Jair Bolsonaro claims the country has been been “liberated from socialism and political correctness”, he said during his inauguration speech today.
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[02-Jan-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kivitv.com/news/violence-against-women-act-expires-due-to-government-shutdown

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Violence Against Women Act expires due to shutdown
The government shut down a full week ago. During that time, a law that was passed back in 1994 expired without being renewed and it could have local ramifications.
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[02-Jan-19 04:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) yeah, Bolso, liberate Brazil from PC! Except for censoring modes of expression that hurt your fragile masculinity, such as boys liking girls' toys.


[02-Jan-19 04:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nincompoop.


[02-Jan-19 04:52 PM] Crow#5457
lol @AaronMk, hakim's patreon has gone up $10 since you linked this video yesterday <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwUaUf_pOs>


[02-Jan-19 06:22 PM] Arvid#8335
I'm having a hard time believing that flat earthers are actually serious.


[02-Jan-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
havign dealt with people outside the internet, i can beleive they're serious


[02-Jan-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well most of them anyway, some are doign it to be contrarians, others are doign it to piss people off


[02-Jan-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the same with anti vaxxers really


[02-Jan-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only less deadly...


[02-Jan-19 07:04 PM] Arvid#8335
Flat Earth seems like just harmless stupidity on the surface, but the thing is, when people believe in flat Earth, they're not going to just stop at flat Earth.


[02-Jan-19 07:06 PM] Arvid#8335
Most people who are flat Earthers are also anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, religious fundementalists, illuminati conspiracy theorists, chemtrail conspiracy theorists, ect.


[02-Jan-19 07:08 PM] Mikey#7286
More incentive to deplatform and push them away :^]


[02-Jan-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't debate a creationist


[02-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Debate makes it look like the other person has a valid opinion


[02-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All you should do is mock, and mock ruthlessly


[02-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[02-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Goes for any woo based thinking


[02-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Arvid#8335
I would also argue that flat Earth is inherently harmful actually, it attempts to discredit the legitimacy of scientists.


[02-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gee


[02-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's almost like populism is a flawed belief system based on childish feelings of inadequacy and a fourth grade understanding of liberty


[02-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Climate change denial is also dangerous


[02-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Arvid#8335
If the earth really was flat, than a goverment/country opposed to the US would have leaked it from the US database by now.


[02-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[02-Jan-19 08:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow 👌


[02-Jan-19 10:21 PM] RYDE#8862
Bolsonaro had "Finally Liberated Brazil" huh? I don't trust this guy.


[02-Jan-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: during his inauguration ceremony yesterday, Bolsonaro forbid spectators to bring fruit to the parade route


[02-Jan-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because he was apparently afraid they could be thrown at him


[02-Jan-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[02-Jan-19 10:22 PM] RYDE#8862
What a Weenie


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As i said, he's the best, most caricatured example of toxic masculinity we have at hand rn


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
it'll be interesting to see how the country fares economically


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our society is run by weenies right now


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Brazilian Agriculture Ministry now handles distribution of native reservations under his government


[02-Jan-19 10:23 PM] RYDE#8862
Bolsonaro can't hide what's inside


[02-Jan-19 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which means that agricultural interests can now practically dictate where native Brazilians can and will live


[02-Jan-19 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's horrible


[02-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: fascists took over italy in the 20's because the leftist government was too weenie to put them down and thought they were better than the socialists who were gaining power legitimately


[02-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
so instead of treating them like local terrorists, they just let them march in and take over


[02-Jan-19 10:25 PM] RYDE#8862
Toxic Masculinity can and will destroy people and themselves.


[02-Jan-19 10:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Darn elites will accept anyone that promises to preserve their privilege.


[02-Jan-19 10:26 PM] RYDE#8862
I remember Rarity mentioned sometime ago that she wanted to be the elites in Canterlot.


[02-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
that'd be some pretty high social mobility


[02-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
one of the few constants in the world seems to be an attempt to reduce social mobility from anything below upper to elite


[02-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
since the more elites there are, the less "special" it is to be elite


[02-Jan-19 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
The more elites there are too, the less valuable being elite is on a monetary level and that's the only term these sorts of people can think in; how much money they have and how much more they can make. They can project that they're more than that with special causes, but most often those causes are just a new way to acquire additional capital.


[02-Jan-19 10:34 PM] RYDE#8862
Interesting, AaronMk.


[02-Jan-19 10:35 PM] RYDE#8862
The more elites there is around the world, the less special it is, right?


[02-Jan-19 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes. But the point is not "feeling special".


[02-Jan-19 10:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's having more.


[02-Jan-19 10:36 PM] RYDE#8862
The only thing they don't have is real connection to people that really matters.


[02-Jan-19 10:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you believe things like money and political power is a finite resources, than more people sharing that privledged position of money and power over all weakens the monetary and political power of that position on an individual level, and you have to remember this is a class of individual that really hams on the individual merit aspect of modern liberalism: that they're the ones that worked the hardest to get there, never mind they ride on the backs of the people actually working to produce the means which they use to get there.


[02-Jan-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also, did we get another willing challenger to the Peterson and Ben Shapiro clique? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMG72W87opY

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Did Marx Kill Millions?
This is a version of Ben Burgis' video on the question of Karl Marx's culpability for the crimes of really existing socialism with the sound properly synched...
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[02-Jan-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Philosophy professor Ben Burgis.


[02-Jan-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yes real hard work signing papers and documents


[02-Jan-19 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was a Wes Cecil lecture I listened to - I'd have to listen to them all again to find the specific one - but he has a bit when discussing the history of literacy where it was a battle between the priests and the scribes and he makes note part of the reason of beaurecracy is to validate the existence of the beaurecrats themselves. If you have a complex hierarchy and legal code, it ultimate means you need people who are scholars of this field who in turn are inclined to keep adding to it to do nothing more but solidify their position and political power to the king.


[02-Jan-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the priests and scribes were both pushing on literacy, but wanted it only among their circles because if anyone else could read and write then that implies they get power over the legal code, especially at a time when the king himself may not be able to read. He tells an anecdote where there may have once been a king dictating a letter to a rival in court, and he tells the scribe to send a very stern line to the effect of, "I will murder you". The scribe looks up and suggests to reword it to something softer, and the king concedes and lets the scribe write what he wants to replace that line.


[02-Jan-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
The court quietly gasps, and they realize the power implied in this, and the contest begins.


[02-Jan-19 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
In a similar story from the Napoleonic era, the intermediary between the Russian Czar and Napoleon could speak excellent Russian and French. But neither negotiating parties could speak the same language. What happened in this space was that the negotiator running between them could play the two to his own particular advantage and basically wrote the peace treaty between Napoleon and Russia for his own benefit.


[02-Jan-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lesson learned: literacy matters, learn to speak more languages.


[02-Jan-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Funnily enough all of Europe even prior to Napoleon spoke French in their courts because the University of Paris was the premier place to study since the middle ages. Anyone who was anyone studied in Paris like anyone who is anyone with status studies at an ivy league school like Harvard. So the nobility and court professionals all spoke French except the Russians to an extent. But later through the 19th century and on into the end of the monarchy in Russia the Czar's court began to eventually speak French to the point Nicholas himself actively preferred French over his native Russian because it wasn't as coarse or barbaric.


[02-Jan-19 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such patriots lol


[02-Jan-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then everyone dropped French because Woodrow fucking Wilson refused to carry out the Versailles proceedings in French because he didn't speak French and demanded it in English, and the UK backed him up. So now English is something like the international lingua franca of diplomacy. So much so, to be an ambassador anywhere for America you do not need to speak the language for the country you're doing diplomatic work in.


[02-Jan-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just another reason everyone treated Wilson like a fucking idiot at Versaille


[02-Jan-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he was


[02-Jan-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean Germany and France wanted revenge but oh man


[02-Jan-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Presumably this can also change at the drop of the hat if someone else, in a good position to exert influence at the peace table themselves refuses to conduct proceedings in English and demands to write a treaty in their own language. Or some university somewhere becomes premier over English universities.


[02-Jan-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's all listen to the racist cowboy who didn't even want to send an actual army to help us


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Please lecture us on national self-determination, Mr. Owner of the Philippines


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was in a Wes Cecil lecture too (I feel criminal using him so much) where he makes a joke about how we all think Woodrow Wilson is a genius here in America, but compared to European contemporaries he's a fucking moron.


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson

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Woodrow Wilson
Thomas Woodrow Wilson (December 28, 1856 – February 3, 1924) was an American statesman and academic who served as the 28th president of the United States from 1913 to 1921. A member of the Democratic Party, Wilson served as the president of Princeton University from 1902 to...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/President_Wilson_1919-bw.tif/lossless-page1-1200px-President_Wilson_1919-bw.tif.png


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
>Scholars and historians generally rank Wilson as one of the best U.S. presidents.


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>helped the Klan rise again


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>made segregation bigger


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>fucked up with Versailles


[02-Jan-19 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder our country's best and brightest political leaders in the modern era got us into, and fought to keep us in: Vietnam


[02-Jan-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
PLEASE DIE, KISSINGER


[02-Jan-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he;s our best i;d hatre to see our worst


[02-Jan-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, some say we're living that now.


[02-Jan-19 10:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>patriot act


[02-Jan-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was Kissinger the gay guy or was that Hoover


[02-Jan-19 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Calvin Coolidge was fucking hilarious though. Entire presidency predicated on doing nothing and he gets away with dressing like a literal cowboy idiot and he's said to have been as happy as a eight year old boy in his circus style cowboy outfit


[02-Jan-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in J Edgar


[02-Jan-19 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
wasn't coolidge an introvert who barely spoke


[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking All I know about Kissinger is that he's a German Jew who fled the Nazis and settled in the American government.


[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was coolige a western celebrityat the time?


[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow He never spoke in public, but in private he was a talker.


[02-Jan-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont hear much about him


[02-Jan-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
He rarely made speeches, said little to reporters when in public. But in private when the doors were closed he would talk about stuff. But he was president at a time where one could say he didn't need a president: the post-war boom was in high swing and the market was sky rocketing.


[02-Jan-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Herbert Hoover, who was a secretary in his government at the time was pissed though because I guess he could smell the depression from a mile away. But being a conservative like Coolidge he didn't like to do much when the depression itself hit.


[02-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge#Presidency

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Calvin Coolidge
John Calvin Coolidge Jr. (; July 4, 1872 – January 5, 1933) was an American politician and the 30th president of the United States from 1923 to 1929. A Republican lawyer from New England, born in Vermont, Coolidge worked his way up the ladder of Massachusetts state politics...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Calvin_Coolidge%2C_bw_head_and_shoulders_photo_portrait_seated%2C_1919.jpg


[02-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
"Just before the Republican Convention began, Coolidge signed into law the Revenue Act of 1924, which reduced the top marginal tax rate from 58% to 46%, as well as personal income tax rates across the board, increased the estate tax and bolstered it with a new gift tax."


[02-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also here's another shot of him in his silly as fuck cowboy suit.

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[02-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
isn't the top marginal tax rate like 35% now?


[02-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
32


[02-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually no, 37


[02-Jan-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
it created new tax brackets I think


[02-Jan-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
37 is the tax rate for the highest bracket, which is anything over 600k or so


[02-Jan-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's other things too, like tax rates for heads of households.


[02-Jan-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
But they all cap off at 37%


[02-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the taxes owed have slowly gone down for the people who need the money the least


[02-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
before 1924, it was 58%, now it's 37%


[02-Jan-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
More Coolidge, here's him hanging out with Native Americans and wearing a head dress and looking a bit grumpy.

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[02-Jan-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
I swear, his western vacation is a fucking meme


[02-Jan-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Calvin Uncool-idge


[02-Jan-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"aww mom, I wanted to be the cowboy..."


[02-Jan-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Herbert Hoover on the USS Salt Lake City:

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[02-Jan-19 11:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact about Hoover: he got incredibly angry if someone took him to see people in need. He hated people in need. Even though he was ostensibly in command of the efforts to feed starving post-war Belgians he didn't want anything to do with Belgians. He got visibly angry when someone took him to see the Belgian people he was helping. He also never wanted to see the area damaged by the floods that inundated the entire Mississippi valley in 1927, I think.


[02-Jan-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think someone might have taken a potshot at Hoover though when he did go to tour the flood. Someone shot at his boat as they passed by.


[02-Jan-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/07/28/the-veterans-were-desperate-gen-macarthur-ordered-u-s-troops-to-attack-them/


[02-Jan-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
Newsreels showed the military with tanks, routing unarmed veterans. To many, the action confirmed a view of Hoover as coldhearted and detached from reality. Reading a New York Times account, Democratic presidential candidate Franklin Delano Roosevelt told his aide, future Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, “Well, Felix, this will elect me.”


[02-Jan-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
no wonder someone shot at him


[02-Jan-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well that was before his presidency. But yeah, Hoover wasn't the nicest guy around.


[02-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
before roosevelt's presidency, during hoover's


[02-Jan-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/Would-the-American-military-fire-on-its-own-citizens-if-ordered-to


[02-Jan-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
Of course. There is a fantasy that the American military is somehow immune to being used as a tool of repression. Comes from watching too much Hollywood, reading too much Tom Clancy, perusing too many right wing blogs, and not checking out enough actual US history.


[02-Jan-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[02-Jan-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
The US military had been frequently used to clamp down on labor unrest. There were straight up battles between striking workers and the National Guard even.


[02-Jan-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

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Battle of Blair Mountain
The Battle of Blair Mountain was the largest labor uprising in United States history and one of the largest, best-organized, and most well-armed uprisings since the American Civil War.The conflict occurred in Logan County, West Virginia, as part of the Coal Wars, a series of ...
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[02-Jan-19 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars

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Coal Wars
The Coal Wars were a series of armed labor conflicts in the United States, roughly between 1890 and 1930. Although they occurred mainly in the East, particularly in Appalachia, there was a significant amount of violence in Colorado after the turn of the century.The Coal Wars ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Coal-creek-war-miners-shooting-tn1.jpg


[02-Jan-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
We give anarchists a lot of grief for trying to bomb judges and shit at the time, but hell: the same structure in alliance with private industry were straight up killing strikers and shit.


[02-Jan-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_worker_deaths_in_United_States_labor_disputes

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List of worker deaths in United States labor disputes
The following list of worker deaths in United States labor disputes captures known incidents of fatal labor-related violence in U.S. labor history, which began in the colonial era with the earliest worker demands around 1636 for better working conditions. It does not include ...


[02-Jan-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-wall-government-shutdown-border-usmca-trade-mexico-canada-congress-a8708196.html

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Trump says ‘much of the wall’ is built in spite of forced gove...
'The United States needs a physical barrier,' president tells Cabinet meeting
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/12/31/15/trump-mistruths-0.jpg


[02-Jan-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so which is it? do you need the funding? or are you holding us hostage for no fuckign reason?


[02-Jan-19 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
I feel like 2019 is going to be another year we all age four years in one.


[02-Jan-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[02-Jan-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"but i;ve already built the wall, so pay me anyway or the government keeps beign shut down for no reason"


[02-Jan-19 11:33 PM] Honahue#0656
I hope you're all ready for 5 more years of Trump


[02-Jan-19 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'll deal with a second term if he's neutered by an antagonistic Congress.


[02-Jan-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if what happened with obama happens with trump but in reverse party order then maybe we can survive


[02-Jan-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the party of no but in D minor


[02-Jan-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
What'd be a gold standard is Trump gets turned into a meme machine by way of a congress dead set against him, who goes about the work of enacting actual governance by basically bringing congressional authority back to some measure.


[02-Jan-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just like by way of sheer volume of voting they over turn vetos to take away presidential war powers and shit.


[02-Jan-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would be nice


[02-Jan-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly the republican plan is to kill half the voting populace through stress/stupidity induced heart attacks and anyeurisms


[02-Jan-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/a-marine-explains-which-state-would-win-if-the-us-declared-war-on-itself-2015-7

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A Marine explains which state would win if the US declared war on ...
Texas y'all.
https://static.businessinsider.com/image/55b679812acae7cc3f8b7d42-750.jpg


[02-Jan-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[02-Jan-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
>And not whatever state Xi Jingping gives the guns to.


[02-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/55b678552acae732118ba187-750-572.png

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[02-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
these are the hypothetical "final" borders


[02-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
it assumes that alaska and hawaii would go off and do their own things


[02-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
since they're so disconnected from the mainland that there's no point in including them in this hypothetical "which state wins"


[02-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
> First came a period of massive migration back to the homelands. Facing the newly invented discrimination that will be created many felt the need to go back to their own people. While the individual states retained all military assets they couldn't control the individuals who fight.


[02-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
"A Texas Marine stationed in California, would not fight for California. A soldier in New York would not fight against their home in Virginia and a sailor in Houston would not fight against their home state of Florida. The warriors returned to their home states and the states had to reconsider that when they measured troop strength of their new nations. Ultimately, they measured troop strength by how much of the population would return home."


[03-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
lol, I skimmed this article and it's basically a glorified fanfic


[03-Jan-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a whole genre of speculative fiction based on this premise.


[03-Jan-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1oR3_oRfn4

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nicobasjh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1oR3_oRfn4
Chapo Trap House - People's Republic
The boys read a couple of chapters from Kurt Schlichter's dystopia - People's Republic. From Episode 104 - We've Always Been Here
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t1oR3_oRfn4/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Jan-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYp_6DcUzbU

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AndroidPolitician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYp_6DcUzbU
Chapo Trap House DESTROYS Ben Shapiro's Shitty Novel
Officer Potato O'Famine is on the case! From Episode 68 https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-68-applebees-christmas-spectacular-feat-kath-barbador...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qYp_6DcUzbU/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Jan-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHo7Rko-fQ

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AndroidPolitician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHo7Rko-fQ
Chapo Trap House - New American Civil War
Episode 203 (Premium) my dumbass twitter: https://twitter.com/AndroidPolitic1 Image is from the dumb book The 11 Nations of America
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rLHo7Rko-fQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Jan-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this also implies that america isnt ready and willign to nuke itself to death


[03-Jan-19 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
April 12th is a trucker's strike over unpaid wages


[03-Jan-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
I talked to a guy who did trucking once, he said that the electronics in the trucks monitor the road to make sure that the driver isn't within eight car lengths of the vehicle in front of the truck above a certain speed


[03-Jan-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
and that you accrue penalties automatically for any and all infractions


[03-Jan-19 02:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://medium.com/@BernieSanders/2019-cd23d3039335

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2019 – Bernie Sanders – Medium
Jane and I want to take this opportunity to wish you and yours a very healthy and happy new year.


[03-Jan-19 02:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
YEAH


[03-Jan-19 02:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
FEEL THE BERN


[03-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
how come nobody stands up for the Native Americans


[03-Jan-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-just-confirmed-stock-markets-225049102.html

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Apple just confirmed the stock market's biggest fear
Apple gave investors bad news about the global economy in a shocking announcement on Wednesday. It will do little to calm fears about where the global economy stands and how big of a negative impact trade is having.
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[03-Jan-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
People try sometimes to stand up for the natives


[03-Jan-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then Republicans just don't listen


[03-Jan-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and natives hav no money so


[03-Jan-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing gets done


[03-Jan-19 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure the one elector who did a protest vote for some Standing Rock activist in 2016 feels like he did.


[03-Jan-19 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.delish.com/food-news/a25337533/mcdonalds-touchscreen-fecal-bacteria/

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Every McDonald’s Touchscreen In Study Tests Positive For Fecal B...
I'm hatin' it.
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[03-Jan-19 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
$15 an hour, or dysentery?


[03-Jan-19 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i gotta be honest, if they rolled that out nationwide. they wouldnt just be sprinkled with fecal bacteria, they woudl be smeared with it as fired employees leave their mark


[03-Jan-19 09:44 AM] sectioned#3090
lol


[03-Jan-19 09:44 AM] sectioned#3090
self order machines are shit anyway


[03-Jan-19 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are so violently anti-worker that they'll work with poor technology.


[03-Jan-19 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel for the IT guys who will have to make dozens of calls a day.


[03-Jan-19 09:52 AM] sectioned#3090
I haven't had fast food for a long time


[03-Jan-19 09:53 AM] sectioned#3090
still fat af but at least i'm eating marginally healither


[03-Jan-19 09:53 AM] sectioned#3090
fast food resturaunts are nasty


[03-Jan-19 10:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
I cook my own food.


[03-Jan-19 10:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Chipotle is my guilty pleasure


[03-Jan-19 10:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Technically speaking I understand how to make it on a small scale, but in reality I don't because I don't have the time and it doesn't taste quite as good


[03-Jan-19 10:39 AM] byte[]#2610
And I suck ass at wrapping burritos


[03-Jan-19 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea how people dot he burrito thing


[03-Jan-19 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can barely shape a tortilla


[03-Jan-19 11:27 AM] sectioned#3090
chipotle is the fucking worst


[03-Jan-19 11:30 AM] sectioned#3090
pick any one of these dime-a-dozen sit-down mexican resturants, and they're a 100x better than that garbage


[03-Jan-19 11:30 AM] sectioned#3090
I don't like mexican food in general


[03-Jan-19 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
You're probably not latino then


[03-Jan-19 11:32 AM] sectioned#3090
I mean it's bad (mexican food) but I prefer chinese food


[03-Jan-19 11:32 AM] sectioned#3090
not bad*


[03-Jan-19 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I am also going to have to disagree strongly with you on that one, Mexican sit-downs have given me some of the worst food I have ever had in my life


[03-Jan-19 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm usually okay with taquerias but not casual


[03-Jan-19 11:34 AM] sectioned#3090
have you ever had a crunchy roll or a dragon rolls? those are pretty good


[03-Jan-19 11:35 AM] byte[]#2610
you are referring to chinese food?


[03-Jan-19 11:36 AM] sectioned#3090
ye


[03-Jan-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[03-Jan-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
they're okay I guess but I don't really like the sweet stuff


[03-Jan-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
that said it may be an american thing to do that


[03-Jan-19 11:36 AM] sectioned#3090
they are popular in america


[03-Jan-19 11:38 AM] sectioned#3090
They're one of those things I'd never get tired of eating, they'd be all I would eat if they were half price


[03-Jan-19 11:39 AM] sectioned#3090
jeez, i've spent so much on those things. But hey, what's money for.


[03-Jan-19 11:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I spend money like that at chipotle


[03-Jan-19 11:45 AM] byte[]#2610
so :V


[03-Jan-19 11:56 AM] sectioned#3090
La Fuente rated 4.6 on google reviews compared to Chipotle's 4.0. I rest my case


[03-Jan-19 11:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
<Shitposty comment about how numeric scores are a shit>


[03-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/progressives-ro-khanna-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-paygo-rules-fight_us_5c2d2401e4b0407e9087b393

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Progressives To Put Up Last-Minute Fight To Stop 'Pay-Go' Budget Rules
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ro Khanna say the new rules risk hamstringing a progressive agenda.
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[03-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
see this?


[03-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
this is why democrats are just as shitty as republicans


[03-Jan-19 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
they're trying to pass a "pay-as-you-go", or "pay-go" rule which basically requires you to have funding already available for anything that's voted on


[03-Jan-19 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
which is impossible because every bit of extra funding gets put somewhere else


[03-Jan-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they want to pass a lawe that would stop literally anything from actually gettign done


[03-Jan-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing has funding until you vote on it you morons


[03-Jan-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that the republicans don't even use the rule when they had control


[03-Jan-19 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
democrats had pay-go back before 2011, but republicans threw it out after they control on 2011


[03-Jan-19 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
but pelosi's a neoliberal among neoliberals, and no one was brave enough to challenge her for speaker


[03-Jan-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neoliberals are cowards


[03-Jan-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this rule pack is only an attempt to keep non neoliberals from making any strides


[03-Jan-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/03/yen-surges-against-global-currencies-after-flash-crash.html

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The Japanese yen hit its highest level since March against the U.S. dollar on Wednesday evening after what some traders are calling a "flash crash."
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[03-Jan-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so apparently that "copy paste letter" the government sent to it;s staff durign the shutdown is super illegal


[03-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
what copy paste letter


[03-Jan-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people can;t offer carpentry services unless they have a liscense, and they'd have to file a section-c


[03-Jan-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on ill get th eletter again


[03-Jan-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/government-shutdown-employees-not-getting-paid-feds-suggestion-carpentry-pay-1273776

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Government recommends employees struggling to pay rent to work as ...
The OPM posted letter templates that can be sent to creditors explaining personal financial difficulties for government workers during the shutdown.
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[03-Jan-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically it;s a letter template that tells employees to basically do illegla carpentry work for their landlords for income


[03-Jan-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Following are sample letters that you may use as a guide when working with your creditors.  OPM is not able to provide legal advice to individual employees.
Things to consider:
- Speak with your landlord, mortgage company, or creditor first before you write a letter.  Just sending a letter may not be very effective as it will take a fair amount of time to get to the individual who needs to see it, if at all.  Speaking with your creditors will enable you to work out the details of any payment plan that you can later confirm with your letter.
- Be sure to send the letter directly to the person to whom you have spoken to confirm your request for a reduced payment plan.
- Make sure that you have all the necessary information in your letter including account number, address of the property, and a telephone number where you can be reached.
 - Be sure to keep a copy of the letter.  In some situations, you may want to send the letter by certified mail.  You may also want to fax the letter to the company.


[03-Jan-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"As we discussed, I am a Federal employee who has recently been furloughed due to a lack of funding of my agency. Because of this, my income has been severely cut and I am unable to pay the entire cost of my rent, along with my other expenses," the template for writing a letter to landlords read. "I will keep in touch with you to keep you informed about my income status and I would like to discuss with you the possibility of trading my services to perform maintenance (e.g. painting, carpentry work) in exchange for partial rent payments."


[03-Jan-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thewre's more in a downloadable template file in the article


[03-Jan-19 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but basically the government jsut gave illegal advice to it;s employees because they couldnt be arsed to do anything else


[03-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
It's not illegial if you're above the rules 🙃


[03-Jan-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Officer, I thought she was 18


[03-Jan-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will stil, probably be taken into account with the lawsuit


[03-Jan-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/williams-young-people-and-their-troubling-views-on-socialism-and-communism

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A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51% of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42% prefer t…
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[03-Jan-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
I randomly entered "communism" on google news, and this was the 6th article lol


[03-Jan-19 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
"A recent Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation survey found that 51% of American millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist country than in a capitalist country. Only 42% prefer the latter. Twenty-five percent of millennials who know who Vladimir Lenin was view him favourably. Half of millennials have never heard of Communist Mao Zedong, who ruled China from 1949 to 1976 and was responsible for the deaths of 45 million Chinese people."


[03-Jan-19 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>half never heard of him


[03-Jan-19 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
vladimir lenin led a revolution, but I haven't actually seen anything that marks him as particularly violent


[03-Jan-19 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maaaaybe the Kronstadt Rebellion


[03-Jan-19 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All historical characters have their flaws


[03-Jan-19 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But imo, Lenin was the one good Soviet leader


[03-Jan-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, and the US civil war was much bloodier


[03-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
also apparently trotsky was the one actually in charge of suppressing the revolt


[03-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
not lenin directly


[03-Jan-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
it was also the revolt that convinced lenin that the country couldn't handle any more communism at that point and started shifting more towards limited state capitalism (like what china's doing)


[03-Jan-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
then he died and stalin's like "fuck that noise ALL THE COMMUNISM" and killed everyone


[03-Jan-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile what msot young people want is social democracy but no one will acknowledge the existance of this system  so people are forced to eiuther pick pure capitalism or pure socialism


[03-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
the one question I've never seen properly answered is if it's actually possible to make a free socialist society because every instance of "socialism"/"communism" has been co-opted by people who wanted more power, and their governments were also specifically set up in such a way as to make it practically child's play for a single person to come in and grab all the power


[03-Jan-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
As is the case with most revolutions there are generally post-revolutionary cases of state violence to maintain the situation while it's still in its infancy. Such as Shay's Rebellion in the United States, which was a pivotal event in American history that lead to the first Constitutional Congress that ratified the modern Constitution we have today.


[03-Jan-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
And George Washington's campaigns in the "frontier" to force bootleggers to pay taxes.


[03-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
He only arrested two people


[03-Jan-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's possible with proper checks and balances much like capitalism


[03-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Both were mentally handicapped.


[03-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
He let them go


[03-Jan-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
There is also events like the Boston riots during the Revolution, where moments after being told the colonies were going to tell the Brits to fuck off, it was announced that there would be a draft; no one rich would have to actually fight. Bostonians declared "tyranny is tyranny, no matter who from" and flipped a lid.


[03-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
like imagine if there's a bunch of people like the founding fathers of the US who come together and make a strong constitution enshrining freedom and equality, and a leader who is not particularly willing to take the job of leadership but does so out of a sense of duty


[03-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
and then willingly gives up the limited power he was given when he literally had all the chances to take all the power he could ever possibly want


[03-Jan-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anothe rproblem is we keep giving [power tot hose who want the power isntead of those who take it up as duty


[03-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
huh, george washington is the only elected president to ever win 100% of the electoral college, and he did so twice


[03-Jan-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
I figured that would be the case, but I never actually looked it up before


[03-Jan-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well to be fair back then i;m pretty sure it was just a large room full of a crowd of very important people


[03-Jan-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'd really argue that is the fault of a hierarchical campaign system. People who don't want to run won't run, where as people who do want it will run. Likewise, those who want it and have the resources will beat those who want it but don't have the resources. And the Republican and Democratic career types will always have the resources to at the least beat Libertarians and Green Party candidates, even if the respective Dem and Republican candidates are losers in the party, because they have resources the respective rivals don't.


[03-Jan-19 11:04 PM] Honahue#0656
won 100% of white land owners votes probably wasn't terribly difficult especially with only 13 states


[03-Jan-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I could argue something like Zapatista direct democracy would be best, at least at a local level and even with delegate decision making powers to discuss non-competitively among themselves to send to the federal government


[03-Jan-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
imagine a society in which a person is taken kicking and screaming into the head of state office and locked in there until he starts working lol


[03-Jan-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
the only problem would be making sure that they don't fuck everything up out of spite


[03-Jan-19 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
We could also do an Athenian lottery system.


[03-Jan-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
plus making sure they're actually qualified to lead


[03-Jan-19 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Toss everyone's name in a pot, spin for a tour of service for a year or two, and chunk them in.


[03-Jan-19 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Douglas Adams did that, the real president of the universe was a guy that didn't even believe in the universe


[03-Jan-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also really need to start administring paper tests to politicians to make sure they understand what it is they;re fuckign doing


[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Honahue#0656
the idea was that anyone capable of getting themselves elected to power had no business actually wielding that power


[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
lol, imagine if trump attempted to bribe his way past the exam


[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
if he were required to take one


[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda)

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[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Top of my class!!!"


[03-Jan-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
top of his ass more like


[03-Jan-19 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Got eem


[03-Jan-19 11:09 PM] Honahue#0656
is dat Chow Yun Fat?


[03-Jan-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
The American imperial examinations. Take this test, write a bunch of essays, draft a moving poem, compose an entirely new classical song...


[03-Jan-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then run twenty miles.


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinkign like a law school exam, with some sections of america history


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you can do all those sufficiently: congratulations, you're part of the beaurecracy. If low on it.


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
20 miles is a bit much lol


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow I never found specefics, but the old Chinese Imperial examinations had physical tests too like long distance running and strength tests.


[03-Jan-19 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why?


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also soem sections on constitutional articles and ammendments


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
As well as making people paint a picture, show off their calligraphy, write a poem, compose a song, and submit essays on the classics.


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
20 miles would take like half the day


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
As long as you don't keel over from drinking too much mercury you'll be fine.


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] Honahue#0656
unless you're Kenyan then like 2 hours tops


[03-Jan-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically liek a big ol college final if you want to run for a political office


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and attempt to bribe your way past it woudl result in instant disqualification


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
instant prison time


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] Honahue#0656
we already have a big hurdle for most public office and it's money which is why everyone, nearly, in DC is a millionaire before they get elected


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
do not pass go


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
do not collect $200


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah money is too broad a subject to pass on


[03-Jan-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to narrow shit down


[03-Jan-19 11:13 PM] Honahue#0656
but part of the point of getting a salary was so that elected officials wouldn't have to come from rich backgrounds, granted this was before mass media


[03-Jan-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now super pacs exist makignt hat completely pointless anyway


[03-Jan-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and super pacs are basically the political stock market, you invest in a super pac you by stock of that candidate


[03-Jan-19 11:17 PM] Honahue#0656
you basically have to suck the cock of the biggest employer in your district to get elected or they'll take out attack ads against you


[03-Jan-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right the political ads, those make most of the qualifications pointless when you cna just throw shit on tv without having to talk smack about them to their face


[03-Jan-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"president trump eats babies and watches the fox news satanist hour, do you really want him eating your baby? Vote nermal the incorruptable for 2020"


[03-Jan-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
As a statement on attack ads, we should give leading candidates dueling pistols and have them shoot each other. The one who dies would clearly have been the one with the least effective attack ad.


[03-Jan-19 11:21 PM] Honahue#0656
especially if they are in an industry that gets lots of government contracts like Boeing if you were a politician in a district with a Boeing plant or major supplier you can never vote in a way against Boeing


[03-Jan-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i second this


[03-Jan-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
primaries shoudl be replaced with boxing matches


[03-Jan-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of beign able to bribe their way through primaries candidates woudl have to punch eachother int he face


[03-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
considering that all presidential candidates seem to be in their 60's minimum nowadays, that would lead to a lot of broken bones lol


[03-Jan-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
works for me


[03-Jan-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had a president get shot and continue giving a speech, they should be able to take a punch and continue campaigning


[03-Jan-19 11:29 PM] Honahue#0656
it might push the age down towards the minimum


[03-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Honahue#0656
people would literally get too old for politics instead of dying in office after 40 years of service and 20 earlier in their first career


[03-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
tbh the age minimum should be reduced to begin with, we learn in our first 18 years what people wouldn't finish learning until their 30's


[03-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Honahue#0656
president isn't allowed til 35


[03-Jan-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s really fuckign dumb


[03-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
and the internet lets us experience much more and much faster than anything possible back in the 1700's


[03-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, I know, and that wasn't what I was talking about lol


[03-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
I said that people learn by 18 nowadays what people used to finish learning by their 30's in the 1700's


[03-Jan-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the age process was writren bakc when university students were much older as were important debaters and politicians


[03-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Honahue#0656
but it's hard to say they don't understand government because the majority of congress are lawyers


[03-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
law school takes 3 years


[03-Jan-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half of thme are skeezy lawyers who bribed their way through law school and got in because their corporate sponsers paid their way in


[03-Jan-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
I think making some basic legal training freely available for politicians wouldn't be a bad thing


[03-Jan-19 11:33 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but most attending law school already have a 4 year degree in something else


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agereed


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
but that sounds like communist propaganda >:V


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Honahue#0656
continuing education like what doctors, pharmasist, and engineers need does sound goo


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Honahue#0656
good


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
just like freely available streets with no tolls is communist propaganda


[03-Jan-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
liek before they ever touch their senate seat,presidential seat, what have you. they shoudl be put throguh a trainign course


[03-Jan-19 11:35 PM] Honahue#0656
well they kinda do AOC said it was just neoliberal indoctrination though


[03-Jan-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
that wasn't really training, it was orientation


[03-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
and a taste of the sort of decadent lifestyle they can experience if they just give in to the bribery


[03-Jan-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's less training and mroe a goldman sachs lawyer pullign you aside to tell you  that you;ve won a new car if you co-operate with their lobbyists


[04-Jan-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFaxgB5TygE

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Foucault: Crime, Police, & Power | Philosophy Tube
Part 1/2 - What is prison for? How has crime and punishment changed in the last 250 years? Philosopher Michel Foucault says the penal system - that's law, co...
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[04-Jan-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
"Sadly Foucault plagiarised most of this stuff off of works out of the Black Panther Party."


[04-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[04-Jan-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
EVERYTHING IS A PRISON


[04-Jan-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
SCHOOLS RESEMBLE A PRISON


[04-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
schools are prisons tho


[04-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
most schools are more about keeping kids off the streets than teaching them things


[04-Jan-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
there was no other math but algebra from grade 6 to grade 11


[04-Jan-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
I was sleeping through math by grade 9 and getting an A because I'd seen the same shit for so long


[04-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
history was interesting but ultimately useless


[04-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
geography was basically memorizing the states and their capitals


[04-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
that was at least somewhat useful


[04-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
english was the same thing over and over again from 9th through 12th grade, only with different books to read


[04-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
that was also somewhat useful


[04-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
basically everything learned in high school is better taught online nowadays


[04-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
the current iteration of public schooling was specifically designed to mimic the conditions of working in a factory back in the 20's and 30's


[04-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
but factory work hasn't been the main job in the US for decades


[04-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
FACTORIES RESEMBLE A PRISON


[04-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
LIFE IS A PRISON


[04-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
FREEDOM CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN DEATH


[04-Jan-19 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
STUDENTS AS RAW MATERIAL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFiiOm6fB3c

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[04-Jan-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idINKCN1OX1SP?__twitter_impression=true

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Brazil's Bolsonaro says he is open to hosting a U.S. military base
Brazil's new President Jair Bolsonaro said on Thursday that he would be open to the possibility of the United States operating a military base on his country's soil, a move that would form a sharp shift in direction for Brazilian foreign policy.
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190103&t=2&i=1341858035&w=&fh=545px&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXNPEF021FT


[04-Jan-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
👢 -> 👄


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Methinks Ballsack Nerd secretly wants to be dommed by Trump in bed


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why would he choose Trump as his sugar daddy though


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/423731-former-trump-lawyer-chicago-alderman-charged-with-attempted

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Former Trump lawyer, Chicago alderman charged with attempted extortion
Chicago Alderman Ed Burke (D), whose law firm formerly worked for the Trump Organization in the city, was charged with attempted extortion Thursday for reportedly attempting to use his city council position to solicit business to the firm.
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[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like minds


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
"Chicago Alderman Ed Burke (D), whose law firm formerly worked for the Trump Organization in the city, was charged with attempted extortion Thursday for reportedly attempting to use his city council position to solicit business to the firm."


[04-Jan-19 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, Trump is a saggy old fat dude


[04-Jan-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who acts like a kid


[04-Jan-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not good dom daddy material


[04-Jan-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably thinks that if he hosts a military base in brazilt hna the us armed forces will  aid him in quashing any local uprisings


[04-Jan-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Perhaps, lol


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems liek a brazilian verison fo donald trump in everyway minus intelligence


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems slightly mroe intelligent thna trump


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
onyl slgihtly though


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's more like Duterte


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sans the entertaining "evil plot" comments


[04-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
seems like literally every lawyer trump has associated with has been crooked


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And a hundred times more homophobia and sexism


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, half of trumps lawyers likely have backdoor ties to mafia deals


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And ignorance


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And mccarthyism


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And...


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God, why did we elect this doofus again?


[04-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because people are angry morons?


[04-Jan-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe because Brazilians are so disoriented by corruption scandals that they don't know who to vote for anymore.


[04-Jan-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump only hires people he can blackmail


[04-Jan-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once Bolsonaro gets caught in a corruption scandal, i wonder how his fanbase will react


[04-Jan-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatly for trump, he's also a very blackmailable fellow


[04-Jan-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so all his bakc stabbign relations fall appart over time


[04-Jan-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will either be anger or denial


[04-Jan-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump hires the sleaziest people he can find because that's how his father taught him to win


[04-Jan-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the sleaziest people are ones with giant looming skeletons in their closets


[04-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of his charities were merely money transfer middlemen between rich friends and aquantences


[04-Jan-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half his businesses were aquired by buying out dying businesses, hiring contractors, and then lettign the business die because he didnt want to pay the contractors what he owed


[04-Jan-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he weren;t rich, his legs would have been broken permanently by now by union thugs


[04-Jan-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
afew of his other properties were gottne by bribing the eminent domain agency to claim houses  working class citizens were living in


[04-Jan-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of this works great when you;re a low class enterprise runner but as president it falls appart pretty fast


[04-Jan-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especialy because the president doesn;t have mafia connections to bail his ass out of trouble


[04-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/nyregion/transportation-east-coast-vs-west-coast.html

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Why the West Coast Is Suddenly Beating the East Coast on Transport...
Subways in the Northeast are falling apart and losing riders. Cities on the West Coast are pouring money into their transportation networks.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/02/nyregion/02transit1/02transit1-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[04-Jan-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/01/video-game-workers-unite-union-uk

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Playing for Power
Video game workers are overwhelmingly young with no trade union experience. But that hasn’t stopped them from organizing.
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[04-Jan-19 10:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make witches Marxist again. https://youtu.be/T2KjabftIvE

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Silvia Federici presents Caliban and the Witch
This show presents an audiobook-ish experience, based on a talk by Silvia Federici about her book 'Caliban and the Witch'. This book talks about how the deve...
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[04-Jan-19 12:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_5OOmK1TQ

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Transphobia in the UK
CW: transphobia, homophobia, sexual assault Donate to Mermaids: https://mydonate.bt.com/charities/mermaidsuk Articles: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisf...
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[04-Jan-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/02/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-amazon-rainforest-protections

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Jair Bolsonaro launches assault on Amazon rainforest protections
Executive order transfers regulation and creation of indigenous reserves to agriculture ministry controlled by agribusiness lobby
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[04-Jan-19 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-game-of-throne-border-wall-meme/

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President Trump Tries to Meme His Rejected Border Wall Into Realit...
With the government shutdown nearing its third week, President Donald Trump took to Instagram where there, at least, he could imagine "the wall is coming"
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/donald-trump-wall-meme.jpg?crop=0px%2C765px%2C2700px%2C1418px&resize=1200%2C630


[04-Jan-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/03/donald-trump-uses-game-thrones-meme-instagram-promise-wall-coming/2477579002/

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Another 'Game of Thrones'-inspired meme from Trump promises border...
The image features a close-up photo of Trump with the words "A WALL is COMING" directly above what appears to be a portion of the existing wall.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/03/USAT/329c30b3-6efe-4adb-a042-6098b4b2b332-AP_Trump_18.JPG?crop=2781,1557,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[04-Jan-19 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jan-19 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Speaking of the fiasco at General and the utter lack of antifa pony memes we have in this fandom


[04-Jan-19 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why are so many bronies supportive of an ideology that'd so eagerly throw them into a concentration camp?


[04-Jan-19 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it some sort of sado-masochism i am unable to comprehend?


[04-Jan-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which ideology?


[04-Jan-19 05:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I think because most bronies are teens and young adults which are more prone to acting out and being edgy. A chunk of early bronies also come from 4chan. Edgy is common there.


[04-Jan-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) nazi-fascism


[04-Jan-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[04-Jan-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's weird


[04-Jan-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump made this in instagram class, d-do we hang it on the presidential fridge?

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[04-Jan-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/20/beto-orourke-congressional-votes-analysis-capital-and-main

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Beto O’Rourke frequently voted for Republican legislation, analy...
Capital & Main review shows the Democrat supported bills that boosted the fossil fuel industry and Trump’s immigration policy
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[04-Jan-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-term-limit-amendment-term-senate-2019-1

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Ted Cruz introduced a term limit bill that would actually end his ...
Ted Cruz introduced a constitutional amendment that would allow only two terms for Senators and three for members of the House of Representatives.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c2f7b9fe04d6259255a2572-1536-768.jpg


[04-Jan-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 terms of 6 years each


[04-Jan-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of surprised that's coming form him but neat


[04-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That skillshare ad at the end. Savage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4FD6xtLJM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx4FD6xtLJM
Lawsplainer: Can the President Pardon Himself?
The first 500 Legal Eagles will get 2 months of unlimited learning on Skillshare for FREE: https://skl.sh/legaleagle5 What would happen if a president was so...
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[04-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neuter the executive branch please


[04-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We don't need an imperial president which is what we've worked to since 1960


[04-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46763940

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46763940
Trump ready to shut government 'for years'
Mr Trump says he may declare a national emergency to bypass Congress and build a border wall.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06x7y7y.jpg


[04-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
D is for dictator


[04-Jan-19 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice segue


[04-Jan-19 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Also, if he does that congress is going to be _pissed_


[04-Jan-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This can't be constitutional


[04-Jan-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good so we are becoming northern ireland


[04-Jan-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
minus the benefits


[04-Jan-19 09:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US wants that world record for no government. Northern Ireland has the world record and is still going. Can't catch up to something that won't stop.


[04-Jan-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm very proud of doing what I'm doing," the president added. "I don't call it a shutdown, I call it doing what you have to do for the benefit and safety of our country."


[04-Jan-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes the benefit of thousands of homeles federla employees


[04-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Arvid#8335
Trump: Hello fellow kids how do you do


[04-Jan-19 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://66.media.tumblr.com/7348163e7fb59f6eaed73c5cf7424eaa/tumblr_pkk1ndeOLP1ut83sr_540.jpg

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[04-Jan-19 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't want immortal Baby Boomer politicians ffs


[04-Jan-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[04-Jan-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp time to set fire to ambrosia


[04-Jan-19 10:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US and Northern Ireland are far too similar to each other politically. The majority party in charge hates the gays/blacks/trans/muslims/abortions, leaders are under investigation for something illegal relating to their politics, don't like people coming across the border and taking jobs, party is full of religious fundy types and believes the political opposition are a bunch of commies. gay cakes. I am sure there is more but that is what I can remember.


[04-Jan-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1081234130841600000

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC)
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1081234130841600000
I hear the GOP thinks women dancing are scandalous.

Wait till they find out Congresswomen dance too! 💃🏽

Have a great weekend everyone :) https://t.co/9y6ALOw4F6
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[04-Jan-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>GOP voters with Murican flags whining in the reply feed


[04-Jan-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[04-Jan-19 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"But Cortez was born in a high middle class neighborhood!"
>conveniently ignores the blueblood, spoon-in-mouth birth of their saviour, people's champion, Trump


[04-Jan-19 11:22 PM] Mikey#7286
indeed


[04-Jan-19 11:23 PM] Mikey#7286
his dad built up everything and made money, and donnie boy was handed everything


[04-Jan-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he knows how to handle none of it


[04-Jan-19 11:37 PM] Mikey#7286
nupe


[04-Jan-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the miracles preformed by the editors his show "the apprentice" would have flopped hard


[04-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah, several failed casinos, Trump U, etc'


[04-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Mikey#7286
if he never commited tax fraud he probably would have went bankrupt himself and not ran for president


[04-Jan-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1081225501069533184

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Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter)
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1081225501069533184
Ocasio-Cortez wants a 70-80% income tax on the rich. I agree! Start with the Koch Bros. -- and also make it WEALTH tax.
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[04-Jan-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Top 10 Anime Betrayals


[05-Jan-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh dang


[05-Jan-19 12:40 AM] Arvid#8335
We need to ban non-GMO foods, everyone will eat GMOs and LIKE IT!


[05-Jan-19 12:40 AM] Arvid#8335
TAKE THAT NEW AGE HIPPIES


[05-Jan-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to ban pants!


[05-Jan-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eat pant

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[05-Jan-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eat the pants, ban the rich


[05-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in regards to the shutdown


[05-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Trump is actually trying to get a border wall funded


[05-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's trying to make sure congress can't make legislation


[05-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he lost the House


[05-Jan-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2017/09/cook-trump-800x450.jpg

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[05-Jan-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Look at that face lmao


[05-Jan-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
article link: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/04/trump-apple-earnings-downgrade-comments/

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Trump Claims Apple Will 'Be Fine' Despite Earnings Downgrade and E...
In a press conference at the White House this afternoon, U.S. President Donald Trump weighed in on Apple's recent revenue woes, suggesting the...
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[05-Jan-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
he's not wrong, apple will be fine


[05-Jan-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is trying to run the government like one of his businesses gone wrong


[05-Jan-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's discontinuing all of it;s functions, ignoring the outcry, and refusing to pay the employees


[05-Jan-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I could beleive that trump is doing this to keep the democratic hosue from interferign with his plans


[05-Jan-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
but could you believe it's not butter? 🍳


[05-Jan-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you butter believe it;s not margerine either

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[05-Jan-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have learned my lesson in debating a trump supporter


[05-Jan-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[05-Jan-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Why would you do that to yourself


[05-Jan-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
You already knew what would happen


[05-Jan-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because i got caught up int he moment


[05-Jan-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trumps-officials-to-get-10-000-raise-while-federal-staff-go-without-pay-1972920

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Trump's Officials To Get $10,000 Raise While Federal Staff Go With...
While many federal workers go without pay and the government is partially shut down, hundreds of senior Trump political appointees are poised to receive annual raises of about $10,000 a year.
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2019-01/dl0n65to_mike-pence-wp_625x300_05_January_19.jpg


[05-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDpGqj3PGA

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Tesla Trip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDpGqj3PGA
Model X Towing a Chevy Silverado Truck out of a Supercharger Station
Tesla Supercharger De-ICEing Experiment, we see if a Model X could tow a Full Sized Pickup if it was blocking Supercharging Stations. Get Free Supercharging ...
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[05-Jan-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, your big trukk won't stop a Tesla


[05-Jan-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it will be able to pull it out


[05-Jan-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/01/harry-potter-magic-liberalism-fantasy-fetishism

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Politics Is Not Harry Potter
Liberals love Harry Potter because it presents a world they desperately wish was a reality — one where the magic of facts and reason and elite education were enough to vanquish the ills of society.
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[05-Jan-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Teslas need lighter batteries


[05-Jan-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
They have monster acceleration even while weighing 2 metric tons


[05-Jan-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine if they didn't have that battery weight


[05-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
the advantage of electric motors is they essentially have all their torque at zero RPM


[05-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, is this person actually retarded lol


[05-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
We see a table as having some intrinsic value related to its table-ness, and that intrinsic value sets the baseline conditions for production (how much the workers are paid, for example). But what intrinsic value does a table have as a tradable commodity? When we take away the labor that has gone into making the table, what remains is a block of wood … so where’s the value beyond the labor?


[05-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
if you take away the labor that has gone into making the table, there is no table


[05-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
am I misreading?


[05-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
because at first glance it looks like the writer is saying that we shouldn't take the labor into account when considering the value of the table


[05-Jan-19 06:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow It's the fetishization of the table as something more than itself. It is, by a commodity that can have a price be may be passed off as being more important than it is. I could go on but I'm mod shift and gotta go back to putting up pallets of tile. But it's arbitrary value mostly put on in favor of the Bourgie.


[05-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Honahue#0656
@Crow if you read The Goal which is a book that changed the way a lot of manufactures looks at the economics of production, you don't take labor into account


[05-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
at least in America cause it's based off a Japanese system but they only look at labor as time to completion not added value


[05-Jan-19 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
value in this model is whatever something is sold for and that's determined by your sales reps not your machinists


[05-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
that most definitely doesn't happen on small-scale handmade stuff like custom-made plushies


[05-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah The Goal system is based around large scale industry


[05-Jan-19 06:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyway, this is basically what's going on, and I'm going to explain it with a term which I think is from the PoMo tradition because it's the one I remember. That being Symbolic Value: basically extrinsic to the value of the commodity as it's material and the labor of the workman put into it additional value is added to the product by it's supposed symbolism. This can be explained religiously where a bial of water is more valuable because it's "blessed" or in more contemporary marekting additional value is added, without relation to the value if the relation through way of it's branding.


[05-Jan-19 06:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
For example: many luxury cars are not better in performance than contemporary cars that are more middle of the road or more higher end for general consumer consumption. This is a fact flat out related to me when I took marketing classes. At the end of the day the only thing being bought for luxury goods is its name and nothing more. This is the added Symbolic Value.


[05-Jan-19 06:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
As well, the same relationship can be found in market rate to luxury apartments. Same goods and materials used, same amount of time to build, probably only in different locations. But despite the lacking differences in materials and labor the cost of a luxury apartment can be far and above the price of a similar and as new market rate apartment.


[05-Jan-19 06:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
This same paradigm is more clear in the greatest memes of them all: the Supreme Brick and Yeezy shirts. Despite being made of materials no different than comparable products the value of either commodity is highly inflated by power of its own brand. The Supreme Brick is really any normal masonry brick you'd find in construction today but with the SUPREME fashion logo stamped on it. And Yeezy shirts are plain cotton tees marketed by Kanye West with no print design.


[05-Jan-19 06:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Both the Yeezy and Supreme commodities should be sold at lower prices to match the material and labor value. But are not because they have a more abstract and arbitrary value. For comparison a normal brick might be 2$ but the Supreme Brick is 10k last I checked on eBay and a Yeezy shirt is two-hundred compared to normal five or ten dollar cotton tees without a print design.


[05-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
the hardest thing in the world to find is a plain t-shirt nowadays lol


[05-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
I don't mean undershirt t-shirts, I mean high quality t-shirts that are meant for overwear


[05-Jan-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's pretty much what Marx is saying. Being a product of his own time he compares it to the Victorian obsession with spiritualism and ghosts where a table might be more valuable if it was a special ghost table, despite being a table.


[05-Jan-19 06:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.amazon.com/slp/plain-white-tees/wtb3uqctvb6x4cz

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[05-Jan-19 06:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Average price range seems to be 13 to 30 dollars unless you get into sporting shit.


[05-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't mean the thin undershirt ones


[05-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
those are a dime a dozen


[05-Jan-19 06:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think it matters tbh. Then again I'm happily fashion illiterate.


[05-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
basically there's the thinner, more body-hugging t-shirts, and the thicker, more spread out t-shirts


[05-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
the thin ones are mainly used as undershirts, the thicker ones are meant as outerwear


[05-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Honahue#0656
I like Adidas for sports stuff because even if it's meaningless they are using sustainable cotton in their production


[05-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
idk how else to describe them because I'm fashion illiterate as well, it's just that I've had two different types of t-shirts, and it's a lot harder to find the type that I like than the type that I don't like


[05-Jan-19 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i always end up with and1 clothing depsite not actually looking for it


[05-Jan-19 06:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think these are meant to be undershirts. https://www.amazon.com/Hanes-Comfortsoft-T-Shirt-White-X-Large/dp/B00KBZOVVI?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1&th=1&psc=1


[05-Jan-19 06:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
That is if undershirts are supposed to huh the body better. Than these are not hugging the body.


[05-Jan-19 06:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I still found an eight dollar plain white tee at under eight dollars minimum.


[05-Jan-19 06:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile, Yeezy. https://yeezysupply.com/collections/new-arrivals

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[05-Jan-19 06:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck those prices


[05-Jan-19 06:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who pays $380 for a pair of sweat pants?


[05-Jan-19 06:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's no excuse for sweatpants over a hundred dollars.


[05-Jan-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
... there's no excuse for sweatpants over $50 lol


[05-Jan-19 06:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Granted I wear 120$ shoes, but these have last twice as long as my old pair.


[05-Jan-19 06:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
And those were 60$


[05-Jan-19 06:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I made good on that investment.


[05-Jan-19 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been wearing these $25 shoes for 3 years


[05-Jan-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no excuse for sweatpants over $20


[05-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
obviously sweatpants should be free for all *communism intensifies*


[05-Jan-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they woudl be comfortable


[05-Jan-19 06:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, sudden alarm test is over. Back to fucking with pallets of tile.


[05-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, @AaronMk, that paragraph is worded so strangely that I can't tell if the writer is attacking or supporting marx


[05-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
"Marx is full of magic — look no further than commodity fetishism. We see a table as having some intrinsic value related to its table-ness, and that intrinsic value sets the baseline conditions for production (how much the workers are paid, for example). But what intrinsic value does a table have as a tradable commodity? When we take away the labor that has gone into making the table, what remains is a block of wood … so where’s the value beyond the labor? Fetishism — magical thinking — squares the circle, making us believe the intrinsic exchange value of the table itself, rather than social domination, is the basis of the relationship between the table-maker and the capitalist."


[05-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's the full paragraph


[05-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who are you reading? Marx himself or someone critiquing Marx? And also important: when was this written, it may explain the weirdness. And if it was written first in any other language, like how Kapital was in German first and the English translation uses also the French translation based on notes Marx himself would make the endeavor easier.


[05-Jan-19 06:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Capital itself is hella thicc


[05-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
that article you linked


[05-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/01/harry-potter-magic-liberalism-fantasy-fetishism

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Politics Is Not Harry Potter
Liberals love Harry Potter because it presents a world they desperately wish was a reality — one where the magic of facts and reason and elite education were enough to vanquish the ills of society.
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[05-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Crow#5457
you linked it about an hour ago


[05-Jan-19 06:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh yeah. I'll have to finish that on lunch and I'll be back


[05-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
near the end, he adds in "oh yeah btw conservatives do this too", but for the most part he's talking about "how liberals love magic"


[05-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-312000-jobs-in-december-unemployment-rises-to-39-2019-01-04

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U.S. adds 312,000 jobs in December, unemployment rises to 3.9%
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[05-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
added jobs, but unemployment rised


[05-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
hmmmmm


[05-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
>more people entered the workforce in search of jobs


[05-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
HMMMMMMMM


[05-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
makes you wonder how big the actual unemployment would be if all the people who qualify to work and aren't actively searching for jobs were counted as unemployed


[05-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
>The average wage paid to American workers climbed 11 cents, or 0.4%, to $27.48 an hour, the Labor Department said Friday.


[05-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
where does the "average american" make $27.48 an hour lol


[05-Jan-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that this number is massively skewed by rich dudes making millions a year


[05-Jan-19 08:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow So basically it's a critique of plot structure in a wat, or that's where I'll start: the world of Harry Potter is perfect, except for that Voldemort lad. Likewise, liberal capitalism is good because after-all they were promised comfort in life of they did good in school and _oh shit it didn't happen_. Is essence the failures of the world itself isn't any systemoc problem, but the bad guy appeared; Voldemort for Donald Trump or if you're a conservative George Soros. Harry Potter becomes a metaphor through which its political fans can see the world. The article accuses the people who use the book in their discourse as basically being like the heroes, people who are otherwise intelligent and passed their tests, can move onto comfort, but out of the same system arises some big bad that makes their lives uncomfortable.


[05-Jan-19 08:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Basically what I'm getting out if this is that like in Harry Potter where magic can solve all problems, they're waiting for the magic of the technocrats to fix all problems so they don't have to do it themselves. The other option is otherwise to organize and do actual work, physical or otherwise to solve today's very real issues. But since they believe there are better people out there who'll do it for them: Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi, whatever. They don't want to commit, so they let go the responsibility to do such to feel better.


[05-Jan-19 08:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their activity is pretty much reduced down to magic ritual. Posting online. Or if PJW doing his shit to trigger the libs.


[05-Jan-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
I think that thing about being told that getting good grades in college will get you a good job mainly because baby boomers were mainly high school educated and got decent benefits when they were working


[05-Jan-19 08:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
None of it really does anything substantial.


[05-Jan-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
so baby boomers didn't realize that just doing good in college didn't guarantee a good job


[05-Jan-19 08:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
And now we go off to college and higher education and now we're in debt! Hooray!


[05-Jan-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
the only real way to get a good job out of college is to basically become an indentured servant to a big company for x amount of years in return for them paying for your college


[05-Jan-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Be from money helps too


[05-Jan-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
you'll still get paid while working of course, but you'll be contractually obligated to work for them


[05-Jan-19 08:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
But as the end of the article says also, the narrative is only really a way to hide behind and make things easy to digest. You don't have to stress over the gritty. Your hero of choice is your wizard and if you give them your power they'll fix it.


[05-Jan-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
that's a thing that my welding professor said is common in higher level "welding" degrees


[05-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
because welding is a field that is incredibly strapped for manpower


[05-Jan-19 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
I could meme this paradigm can be extended to any pop media. Game if Thrones in particular with Trump having had made a GoT style poster for his wall.


[05-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
I've heard the book is much more involved and complicated than the tv series


[05-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't watched or read either


[05-Jan-19 08:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
A few friends of mine has read all of the ones out and I've been told George RR Martin loves to go into details about their meals.


[05-Jan-19 08:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And tedious family histories.


[05-Jan-19 08:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways

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[05-Jan-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, harry potter isn't that bad if you don't read it for politics lol


[05-Jan-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
welp https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/20/beto-orourke-congressional-votes-analysis-capital-and-main

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[05-Jan-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
rowling is fucking batshit nowadays though


[05-Jan-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
changing her views on a dime in order to get as many people as possible on her side


[05-Jan-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
when I was reading harry potter as a kid, I never considered the political side of the book at all, I just thought they were entertaining stories


[05-Jan-19 08:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've read the series, it's not terrible but I don't think it's spectacular. The problem here may be like what Guy Debord's describes as images dictating action or something. A lot of people are hanging so much in Harry Potter it's gotten obnoxious in the last year. Rowling doesn't make it much better since she's still active in it and making retroactive changes.


[05-Jan-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
"O’Rourke has voted for GOP bills that his fellow Democratic lawmakers said reinforced Republicans’ anti-tax ideology, chipped away at the Affordable Care Act (ACA), weakened Wall Street regulations, boosted the fossil fuel industry and bolstered Donald Trump’s immigration policy."


[05-Jan-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
"Consumer, environmental, public health and civil rights organizations have cast legislation backed by O’Rourke as aiding big banks, undermining the fight against climate change and supporting Trump’s anti-immigrant agenda."


[05-Jan-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
so he's another neoliberal, great


[05-Jan-19 08:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Chapo did several things on him and came to the same conclusion early on. Their bet with him is if they run him for president for 2020 then the hope is he'll be another Obama. Speaks soft and smiles well. His policies don't matter much, they want that Obama coalition back.


[05-Jan-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
tbh the biggest danger of a dictator is a person who doesn't openly flaunt his desire to be a dictator


[05-Jan-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
so these soft-spoken unknowns are potentially a bigger danger than the arrogantly blatent braggarts like trump


[05-Jan-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/trump-calling-shutdown-strike/index.html

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President Donald Trump told congressional leaders during a meeting Friday to try to negotiate terms to re-open the government and that he preferred the word "strike" in describing the ongoing government shutdown, a person familiar with the meeting and a Democratic aide told CNN.
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[05-Jan-19 09:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His idiocy is only surpassed by that of the people that will nod at what he says


[05-Jan-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
a one man strike


[05-Jan-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
holding up literally hundreds of thousands of people


[05-Jan-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
because he's "too big to fail"


[05-Jan-19 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny how both businesses and billionaires are treated as "too big to fail"


[05-Jan-19 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like literally everything in the government is set up to protect both big business and big money


[05-Jan-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
though big businesses are on a completely different level


[05-Jan-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
there's businesses that make over a a billion dollars a MONTH


[05-Jan-19 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
and they pay less percentage of taxes than businesses that are lucky to see a million dollars in a year


[05-Jan-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can we get an actual federal worker's strike.


[05-Jan-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
they're already suing the government


[05-Jan-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
not much else you can actually do


[05-Jan-19 10:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
They can take Jeff Bezo's tax returns and give them to the rest of us. Give some of us a 200% return on taxes.


[05-Jan-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
oh, you meant an outright government revolt lol


[05-Jan-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
MUH DEEP STATE


[05-Jan-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-profanity-meeting-with-democrats-pelosi-government-shutdown-2019-1

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[05-Jan-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
u want


[05-Jan-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
sum fuk


[05-Jan-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
also that image looks awkward as fuck


[05-Jan-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/congresswoman-rashida-tlaib-trump-profanity-curse-says-impeach-the-motherf-twitter-video/

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New congresswoman on Trump: "Impeach the motherf*****"
Newly sworn-in Rep. Rashida Tlaib, in a video posted to Twitter, used strong language to call for Trump's impeachment
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[05-Jan-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[05-Jan-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
video's been deleted, of course


[05-Jan-19 10:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bless


[05-Jan-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious reading all the comments about how hateful and uncivil she is for saying that


[05-Jan-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
and then completely ignore all the actually hateful shit that trump has said


[05-Jan-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
seems like everyone's forgotten about the "shithole countries" thing


[05-Jan-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ISAjdPPtU

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DC UGLY:Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib Goes off on Trump: We're Going...
DC UGLY: New Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib Goes off on Trump: We're Going to 'Impeach the Motherf*cker!' Congresswoman #RashidaTlaib tells cheering crowd that ...
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[05-Jan-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
this is the only uncensored one I could find


[05-Jan-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
saw an article from breitbart that this video has somehow "backfired" on democrats


[05-Jan-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
didn't bother looking at it though


[05-Jan-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, it said "backlash"


[05-Jan-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
ohh no, the article is actually about pelosi supposedly saying that the backlash against tlaib is "sexist"


[05-Jan-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
christ, it got dumber the more I read the title


[05-Jan-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/Abjin

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Pelosi: Rashida Tlaib 'Impeach the Motherf*cker' Backlash Is Sexist
archived 5 Jan 2019 09:21:16 UTC


[05-Jan-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
finally managed to get archive.is to work on the stupid shit google did with links


[05-Jan-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
they're contradicting themselves in that article, and nothing they actually quoted from pelosi actually says that she thinks the backlash is sexist


[05-Jan-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
"In an apparent attempt to blame sexism for the blowback the Tlaib received, Pelosi wondered aloud what the response would have been if a man made the same comment.  “What she said is less offensive than what President Trump said about John McCain,”"


[05-Jan-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
oh, so that's the angle they're going for


[05-Jan-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
they're claiming that because pelosi compared what tlaib said about trump to what trump said about mccain, pelosi is supposedly attempting to say that "sexism" is why tlaib is receiving the "backlash"


[05-Jan-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
I have never seen this level of mental gymnastics performed before


[05-Jan-19 11:55 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/maddoxrules/status/1081283041241120769

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[05-Jan-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I gotta be honest, I'm with the lady yelling  mother fucker


[05-Jan-19 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
president mother fucker needs to go


[05-Jan-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/01/04/well-see-how-frightened-america-is-chinese-admiral-says-sinking-us-carriers-key-to-dominating-south-china-sea/

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‘We’ll see how frightened America is’ — Chinese admiral sa...
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[05-Jan-19 01:49 PM] Crow#5457
considering the US has new supercarriers, each carrying enough aircraft to count as the world's 9th largest air force apiece, china would be decimated in a traditional war


[05-Jan-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently there may have been a leak of information indicating that the shutdown was meant to stall the russia probe, but as the perosn who told me this has provided no source, I can't be entirely sure


[05-Jan-19 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not a bad theory though


[05-Jan-19 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah it was on a CBS broadcast, they have not put it up on their website yet


[05-Jan-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if this lead is true i'll try to stay on top of it


[05-Jan-19 04:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46768270

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Ukraine Orthodox Church wins independence
The head of the Orthodox Church signs a decree at an Istanbul ceremony attended by Ukraine's leader.
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[05-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
that might be enough for russia to justify war


[05-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
and the west will concede because the west can do nothing but fucking concede


[05-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
it happened with hitler, it will happen with putin


[05-Jan-19 05:05 PM] ononim#8141
>that might be enough for russia to justify war


[05-Jan-19 05:05 PM] ononim#8141
Crow that are you drinking


[05-Jan-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
I know our state loves Clergycracy Juice, but not enough to offically declare war after another church splits from their


[05-Jan-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thinka t this point russia would try and use anythign to justify a war on ukraine


[05-Jan-19 05:07 PM] ononim#8141
Thos it does means even worse relations, if that's even possible without (low key nowadays afaik) proxy war going full scale "official" one


[05-Jan-19 05:09 PM] Crow#5457
you realize that many wars have historically been started on the basis of religion right


[05-Jan-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
ideology has long been a reason for humans to fight and kill each other, even if it often isn't the end goal


[05-Jan-19 06:35 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-running-america-just-like-his-businesses--right-into-the-ground/2018/04/26/91235210-498d-11e8-8b5a-3b1697adcc2a_story.html


[05-Jan-19 07:36 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-Jan-19 07:36 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow


[05-Jan-19 08:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/business/china-internet-censor.html

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By LI YUAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/business/china-internet-censor.html
Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It
Thousands of low-wage workers in “censorship factories” trawl the online world for forbidden content, where even a photo of an empty chair could cause big trouble.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/02/business/02Newworld-illo/merlin_148053369_c3fedf93-fff3-4eae-91aa-ea05beee19ec-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Jan-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
The workers are almost all college graduates in their 20s. They are often unaware of, or indifferent to, politics. In China, many parents and teachers tell the young that caring about politics leads only to trouble.

To overcome that, Mr. Yang and his colleagues developed a sophisticated training system. New hires start with weeklong “theory” training, during which senior employees teach them the sensitive information that they didn’t know before.

“My office is next to the big training room,” Mr. Yang said. “I often hear the surprised sounds of ‘Ah, ah, ah.’”

“They didn’t know things like June 4,” he added, referring to the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown. “They really didn’t know.”


[05-Jan-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/LinePress/status/1081554670961733633

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[06-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/us/politics/donald-trump-border-wall.html

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By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and PETER BAKER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/us/politics/donald-trump-border-wall.html
The Border Wall: How a Potent Symbol Is Now Boxing Trump In
What started out as a memory trick for an undisciplined candidate has become the central priority of the Trump presidency, even as some immigration hard-liners do not view it as a top goal.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/06/us/politics/06dc-trumpwall1-promo/06dc-trumpwall1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prolonged-shutdown-could-leave-millions-without-food-stamps-hit-small-n955136

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Shutdown could leave millions without food stamps and hit small bu...
“There’s going to be rioting in the streets when they cut the stamps off,” one grocery store owner said. “Get your timber ready.”
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_08/2339406/180223-food-stamps-maine-ew-1147a_a7c25472daccbc1849e388526d89d9a2.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[06-Jan-19 03:39 PM] Denk#5891
So how is the shutdown?


[06-Jan-19 03:39 PM] Denk#5891
I'm kinda surprised it still going


[06-Jan-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 weeks in now


[06-Jan-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is hunkered down to make it last for years if he needs to


[06-Jan-19 04:03 PM] Denk#5891
I heard this is over a wall?


[06-Jan-19 04:03 PM] Denk#5891
like can you even do that?


[06-Jan-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it started over the wall but by now he;s probably foudn several more reasons to keep it going


[06-Jan-19 04:03 PM] Denk#5891
Imagine I want to build a big ass statue and the congress doesn't like it so I shut down the government?


[06-Jan-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that soudns like soemthing turmp woudl try


[06-Jan-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if the democrats give him the funding he wants, i doubt he'd open the government back up anyway


[06-Jan-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and bynow we've surpassed the naitonal budget he;s holding us hostage for


[06-Jan-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he;s essentially burnign the bank to get a wallet


[06-Jan-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one going theory is that he's keeping it shut down to stall the russia investigation but the FBI doesn;t work liek that


[06-Jan-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/06/donald-trump-border-wall-government-shutdown/2495342002/

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President Trump says border wall fight is 'very important battle t...
President Donald Trump huddles with aides at Camp David to discuss agenda, including border wall and government shutdown
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[06-Jan-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-affect-snap-food-stamps-wic-millions-could-face-severe-cuts-in-2019-funding-usda/

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Millions could face severe cuts to food stamps due to government s...
The partial government shutdown glided into its third week Saturday with no end in sight
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/01/05/057ff7a9-e0d0-47d3-93a7-f0b91017b8e6/thumbnail/1200x630/9844fb2da5da692ca7b8de95d36ef778/food.jpg


[06-Jan-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and in his attempt to fix national security, he pretty much grinded it to a fucking halt


[06-Jan-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.boston25news.com/news/tsa-workers-feeling-effects-from-partial-government-shutdown/899616845

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TSA workers feeling effects from partial government shutdown
As the partial government shutdown reaches the two-week mark, Transportation Security Administration employees are feeling the effects, with workers not getting paid throughout the country.
https://media.myfoxbostoncom.cmgdigital.com/photo/2019/01/06/Logan_TSA_Dealing_with_Government_Shutdo_0_14158309_ver1.0_640_360.jpg


[06-Jan-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our president is basically a corporate level terrorist, but we can;t send a swat team to fuck his shit up


[06-Jan-19 04:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He realises that he can do his own thing while government is shut down. Trump can focus on Trump while he waits for the money for his wall.


[06-Jan-19 04:27 PM] Mikey#7286
And then he pretends to care about bringing jobs back but he wants to stick it to da libralz


[06-Jan-19 04:27 PM] Mikey#7286
And erect a pointless wall


[06-Jan-19 04:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The wall is one main thing he ran on and got elected for. He wants everyone to know he tried and the libz stopped him so all the blame of him not giving what he promised falls on the Evil commie liberals. Gets his base more dug in to their party and apposed to the other party. If he does get the wall he will have fulfilled a promise made in his election. Can't win with these people.


[06-Jan-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can a government shutdown lead to a debt default?


[06-Jan-19 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/taggy_/status/1081871609462484993

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Reports #UniversityOfKhartoum teaching staff have been arrested from their demonstration #SudanUprising
After arrests from the street, reports the demonstration continued inside UoK Staff Club https://t.co/y6nzZzG1kb
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[06-Jan-19 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://mobile.twitter.com/spookperson/status/1081861797257199616?s=21


[06-Jan-19 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Harry Potter and the TERF's Tweet


[06-Jan-19 06:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/05/682286587/house-democrats-introduce-anti-corruption-bill-as-symbolic-first-act

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https://www.npr.org/2019/01/05/682286587/house-democrats-introduce-anti-corruption-bill-as-symbolic-first-act
House Democrats Introduce Anti-Corruption Bill As Symbolic 1st Act
Democrats say the bill is for people who "feel left out and locked out from their own democracy." It addresses voting, political money, redistricting and ethics.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/01/04/gettyimages-1077172754_wide-13e7a784f87d69cfdd54c0dbde69ddfb9459eaa1.jpg?s=1400


[06-Jan-19 06:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/constitutional-amendments-steve-cohen-electoral-pardon/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/constitutional-amendments-steve-cohen-electoral-pardon/index.html
Congressman proposes eliminating Electoral College, preventing pre...
Rep. Steve Cohen has proposed two constitutional amendments, one that would abolish the Electoral College and another that would prohibit presidents from pardoning themselves, their families, members of their administration or their campaign staffs.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171115111210-rep-steve-cohen-articles-of-impeachment-sot-00003412-super-tease.jpg


[06-Jan-19 06:18 PM] Honahue#0656
It probably feels really good to introduce bills that you know won't pass but make you look good to the public so you can maintain the facade of being for the people while still being a corporate golem


[06-Jan-19 06:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-interrupted-dhs-boss-nielsen-during-presentation-on-illegal-immigrants-saying-i-reject-your-facts

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-interrupted-dhs-boss-nielsen-during-presentation-on-illegal-immigrants-saying-i-reject-your-facts
Pelosi, Nielsen clashed during border-security meeting: 'I reject ...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen got into a tense confrontation, with the California Democrat is interrupting Nielsen’s presentation on border security and illegal immigration, telling her “I reject your facts.”
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/01/733b4964-pelosi-nielsen-sbs.jpg


[06-Jan-19 06:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-idUSKCN1OZ0EO

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-idUSKCN1OZ0EO
Clashes erupt in Paris as 'yellow vests' protest at unrepentant Macron
Rioters in Paris torched motorbikes and set barricades ablaze on the upmarket Bo...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190105&t=2&i=1342484089&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF040P1


[06-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cabinet/trump-says-acting-cabinet-members-give-him-more-flexibility-idUSKCN1P00IG

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cabinet/trump-says-acting-cabinet-members-give-him-more-flexibility-idUSKCN1P00IG
Trump says acting Cabinet members give him 'more flexibility'
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday he was in no hurry to find permanent ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190106&t=2&i=1342766677&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF050HS


[06-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[06-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having people who aren't fully appointed means he can skirt the law


[06-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Why do his eyes always look like everything but them was sunburned


[06-Jan-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spray tan


[06-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
He doesn't even wear sunglasses


[06-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Nah


[06-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
I think he's just naturally that red 😂


[06-Jan-19 08:00 PM] DevField#5162
You know how kids faces get all red when they throw a tantrum? @Mikey It's just that, but with an old man.


[06-Jan-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
he looks like an orange pepe in that image lol


[06-Jan-19 08:00 PM] Mikey#7286
@DevField :twismug:

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[06-Jan-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://pobierak.jeja.pl/images/4/9/c/188588_donald-pepe-trump.jpg

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[06-Jan-19 08:01 PM] DevField#5162
Shocking resemblance


[06-Jan-19 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the lonliest pepe


[06-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
would it even be legal for trump to declare a national emergency to get the wall built?


[06-Jan-19 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWuAct1BxHU

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Javed Khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWuAct1BxHU
Confessions of an Economic Hitman - John Perkins | Short Documentary
According to Perkins, he began writing Confessions of an Economic Hit Man in the 1980s, but "threats or bribes always convinced [him] to stop." According to ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XWuAct1BxHU/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Jan-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Crow  probably not


[06-Jan-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but at the same time he doesnt give any fucks if it is or not


[06-Jan-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's a short term profit type business man, long term rammifications are lost on him and even if they weren't he doesn;t care because he already got what he wanted from it.


[06-Jan-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
he hasn't gotten anything he wants though


[06-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
lmao https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-asked-pelosi-why-everyone-wants-to-impeach-him-source-says/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-asked-pelosi-why-everyone-wants-to-impeach-him-source-says/
Trump asked Pelosi why everyone wants to impeach him, source says
More descriptions of heated exchanges between Trump and congressional Democratic leaders during a Friday meeting are emerging
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/01/05/e951cbcb-afaf-4ba4-b21b-23906b5f70d5/thumbnail/1200x630g1/6e9025e2ef3452d6c5247f57d3ef39e8/gettyimages-1089843646.jpg


[06-Jan-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[06-Jan-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you'll excuse me, i'm going to go slam my head through a wall because a facepalm doesnt do this justice


[06-Jan-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Why does everyone want to impeach me, Nancy?" Mr. Trump asked


[06-Jan-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^this sounds liek a line from a children's book


[06-Jan-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The Vatican has walls. The Vatican has walls surrounding the city," Mr. Trump said, according to the source. "You like the Vatican, Nancy?"


[06-Jan-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*this large city that is relatively small compared to an entire country has a wall, why cant i have a wall for my massive country that only russia really dwarfs?"


[06-Jan-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This tiny hosue supposedly has a wall that i've been told about, why cant my giant ass country border have a wall?"


[06-Jan-19 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqqczhyLnm4

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Peter Coffin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqqczhyLnm4
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[06-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God I fucking hate how so many YouTubers are just h3h3 clones now


[06-Jan-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
douchetubers


[06-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who needs original content when you can make money 10 minutes at a time railing at the same Goldstein everyone else does


[06-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and every video give away is a carry over fromt he last video


[06-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who cover him don't want him to go away or stop


[06-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If he does their channels die because they built them around clickbait and YT drama


[06-Jan-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also rice gum who looks like every rich asian stereo type minus the beign rich part


[06-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate these guys almost as much as I hate those two themselves


[06-Jan-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq6_TA-Tmdg

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penguinz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq6_TA-Tmdg
Ricegum Drama
This is the greatest mystery scam of All Time
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bq6_TA-Tmdg/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Jan-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking Well if it makes you feel any better Peter Coffin does other shit too. https://youtu.be/w3AGe0ns_bw

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[06-Jan-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think he was a h3h3 fan himself back in the day, then stopped.


[06-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
the comments aren't loading on that video :(


[06-Jan-19 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
The last one? It's loading for me


[06-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
the self-help one, yes


[06-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
it's just infinitely loading for some reason


[06-Jan-19 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Huh


[06-Jan-19 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Trying reloading it, or something


[06-Jan-19 09:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
The ending of that video is great tho


[06-Jan-19 09:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
About 28:30 in and on


[06-Jan-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, comments work on chrome for some reason, but not firefox


[06-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
"I hated watching "the secret", which basically taught it was ok to be completely selfish because "our thoughts create reality" and "different people" want "different things" and playing videos of happy people from third world countries while saying stuff like that. Basically exploitation is ok because the extreme poors will be satisfied with less, so dreaming of fame and fortune (which everyone wants) makes total sense and is possible."


[06-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
so basically a guide on liberalism/neoliberalism lol


[06-Jan-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw I used to be into The Secret.


[06-Jan-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
I thought it was legit.


[06-Jan-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Glad I'm no longer fifteen


[06-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
what is it?


[06-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
a movie or something?


[06-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
or a book?


[06-Jan-19 09:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Secret? I watched the documentary version which was basically, "There was a secret technique the ancients knew where if you really wanted something all you would need to do is think about it and it would come"


[06-Jan-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's bullshit


[06-Jan-19 09:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
It framed it as some new agey mumbo-jumbo about how it was shit Socrates and Aristotle knew which is why it became a secret because the Romans or whatever didn't like it so they suppressed it.


[06-Jan-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
I recognized there was something seriously flawed with the US when I was 16 and became nihilistic as fuck


[06-Jan-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we all know the ancients had genie slaves to make their thoughts real


[06-Jan-19 09:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then some self help mad lad wrote a book "reviving" it in the 2000's.


[06-Jan-19 09:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
And we got a documentary.


[06-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
you need power to get any of the thoughts you think about done


[06-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
and that power only truly exists in money


[06-Jan-19 09:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thinking about it I may have the documentary still when it came with me in the random-ass DVD collection I took from my Mom's when I moved. Or she still has it.


[06-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's better than before, in which that power was intrinsically tied to your social status


[06-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
but it's still much, much harder than people claim it is to gain the sort of money that gives you true power


[06-Jan-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
IF anything I can see The Secret has being encouragement for visualization practice, but it doesn't need to be decorated in non-existent ancient spiritual practice of the mind's power over the world.


[06-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
the only other form of power that exists in this world is probability, and no one has ever found a way to actually bend probability in their favor


[06-Jan-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Probability is only really a useful tool to convince people that the free market system is actually the best, though probability is obscured by claims of hard work. No one - or very few - people who got to wealth today did so out of hard work, really it was mostly luck that put them in the right place at the right time.


[06-Jan-19 10:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Said CEOs are fun though because their self confidence really tilts how they answer where they are. They don't really ever credit other people at all or anything outside of themselves. It's all hard work. So if you work hard and/or smart you'll get there too.


[06-Jan-19 10:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Never mind in most cases the hierarchical structure will do what it can to hold people back to protect itself. It's like the situation in Wal Mart, where everyone is stealing from one another, and all the wage theft and the like eventually trickles down to the regular associates who don't have anyone to steal from, and can't get away with it either. And their likelihood of being promoted isn't very high because if anyone was actually promoted based on merit they'd be a threat to the other managers.


[06-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, if you have more people working towards the same goal, the higher probability of that goal being reached


[06-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
that's why it's better to help improve other countries by taking in their refugees and teaching them to fix the problems that more developed countries have already fixed


[06-Jan-19 10:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Over Christmas and New Years dinner I was talking to my uncle about business hierarchy. Even though he worked for the County Drain Commission he too pointed out there are people in the beaurecacy that don't really do anything and in turn only hire people whose job is to make it look like he did things.


[06-Jan-19 10:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow You wouldn't be wrong there, and the thing no one talks about too I think is that with these companies like Tesla even is that there's a large team of people working on the same problem who go practically uncredited. The bosses take all the credit for what amounts to holding all the capital and resources that were used. I've read many articles that worker Cooperatives are more innovative than traditional top-down structures because in the horizontal cooperative people can be more open without fear of being ostracized by the top, or they even get access to stuff that they already commonly own. For a large example: the Mondragon corporation of northern Spain, in the Basque region is the largest worker coop in the world right now and major US companies like General Electric, Boeing, and GM make regular use of Mondragon's industrial labratories in partnership because they just have the better engineers and environment for it.


[06-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
I'd like to see a society similar to that council that china uses, only actually useful instead of being a collective rubber stamp for the president


[06-Jan-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's another company like that too in the United States but I can't remember the name of it. But even the "CEO" has the same rank and title as everyone else and the company is broken down into autonomous horizontal development teams.


[06-Jan-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Well if the Kurds can defend themselves against the Turks than Rojava would be the most recent in radical political experiments like that.


[06-Jan-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only other option would be the Zapatista communities in Chiapas, southern Mexico. But they're in a state of cold war against Mexico itself so t hey don't tend to let anyone in.


[06-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's ever been a true meritocracy government


[06-Jan-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's maybe one commune that's open for tourism.


[06-Jan-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
If I linked this right, the Anitfada episode Mapache Guevara talks about the adventure a few of them made to visit the Zapatistas in southern Mexico. https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-antifada/

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[06-Jan-19 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
They do manage to get there after some hella adventures.


[06-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk have you played HOI4 before


[06-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget if you said you had


[06-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A mod has a really good scenario where the Second American Civil War always breaks out


[06-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easily 4-5 mil dead on each side


[06-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never seen the Syndicalists win, just fight wars of attrition with Longs faction


[06-Jan-19 10:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking I haven't played HoI4


[06-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The mod I'm talking about is Kaiserreich


[06-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Germany wins WWI because the US never joins


[06-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
why did germany keep sinking US boats anyway? they were winning even with the extra support


[06-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
in ww1


[06-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the US was trading with Germany's enemies


[06-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a kind of unwritten rule of warfare you can take out trading vessels going to your enemy.


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US wasn't gonna do anything actually about it


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then the UK caught Germany asking Mexico to join the war


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
and handed the telegram to the US


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
supposedly, the german u-boats kept sinking civilian passenger ships without warning


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to tell ships apart in WWI and they could be concealing guns


[06-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The British actually would put guns on them and conceal them


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
one of them killed over a thousand civilians, and over 100 americans


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
as subs would surface to use their normal guns instead of torpedos


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
that's a big boat


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the Germans said fukk it, torpedo everything


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lusitania was just an excuse


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
the real thing was the UK revealing Germany scheming with Mexico


[06-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
that was a big affront.


[06-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically


[06-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the mod the Depression never gets fixed because Hoover wins in 1932 for some reason


[06-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then Huey Long wins in 1936 but is promptly couped by Douglas MacArthur


[06-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And in the chaos Syndicalists rise up and California and New England secede


[06-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/unequal-distribution-capitalism

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An Unequal Distribution -- of Capitalism
Twenty percent of the world's population (we often hear) consumes more than 80 percent of the earth's resources, while the other 80 percent consume less than 20 percent. Critics of globalization never tire of reminding us of this injustice. Far less often do we hear a proper ...
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/default-social-images/catocommentary_fb_5.jpg


[06-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
"The main reason for that 20 percent consuming 80 percent of the resources is that they produce 80 percent of resources. The 80 percent consume only 20 percent because they produce only 20 percent of resources."


[06-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
dafuq


[06-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
>The Cato Institute is a public policy research organization — a think tank — dedicated to the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace. Its scholars and analysts conduct independent, nonpartisan research on a wide range of policy issues.


[06-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
>limited government


[06-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
>free markets


[06-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
>nonpartisan


[06-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[06-Jan-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
How the fuck is that a criticism of globalism?


[06-Jan-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a criticism of globalized corporatism


[06-Jan-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
I see people try to claim that capitalism is nonpartisan a loooot


[06-Jan-19 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie the Zimmermann Telegram is such a confusing episode


[06-Jan-19 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"We'll make an offer the Mexicans can't accept"


[06-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Germany just was incompetent at political manipulation once Otto von Bismarck was gone.


[06-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too little understanding of the motivations and capabilities of others leading to absolutely insane attempts at getting other countries to do what it wants.


[06-Jan-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking Imagine not destroying Two Centuries Old Democracy because of your ego


[06-Jan-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
This Post was made by American Caesar gang


[06-Jan-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that Wilhelm II was literally insane.


[06-Jan-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BIG NAVY AS PHALLIC COMPENSATION


[06-Jan-19 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
As a kid he had a habit of biting people and was known for being irrationally angry. So much so that when he grew up he was very mad at the British side of the family, or basically all of them so to say. He was jealous of them and I think paranoid Victoria was after them. In the course of his rule he went through ministers like Otto because he was afraid they were going to over throw him and against his father's wishes allied himself with Russia and rejected the liberalism of the time.


[06-Jan-19 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
He also had a violent sex life and was infamous among the French brothels he frequented as abusive to the prostitutes.


[06-Jan-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some say Wilhelm II also found stabbing comical


[06-Jan-19 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fritz was nuts


[06-Jan-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
He was born incorrectly too which probably contributed to his madness. His arm was disfigured and he was born feet first. I think his skull was malformed too but either way he didn't get enough oxygen at birth.


[06-Jan-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@ononim American Caesar is a dumb thing to assume MacArthur would have done


[06-Jan-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just because he led an army against Bonus Marchers and wanted to nuke the Yalu


[06-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk I'd raise a glass to him though


[06-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because he couldn't


[07-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-macron/frances-macron-reeling-as-tough-stance-against-yellow-vests-backfires-idUSKCN1P00KG

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France's Macron reeling as tough stance against 'yellow vests'...
Emmanuel Macron intended to start the new year on the offensive against the ...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190106&t=2&i=1342782901&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF050KA


[07-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
The anti-government protesters on Saturday used a forklift truck to force their way into a government ministry compound, torched cars near the Champs Elysees and in one violent skirmish on a bridge over the Seine punched and kicked riot police officers to the ground.


[07-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
macron's getting trucked


[07-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
The French authorities’ struggle to maintain order during the weekend protests raises questions not just over policing tactics but also over how Macron responds, as he prepares to bring in stricter rules for unemployment benefits and cut thousands of public sector jobs.


[07-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
I can't believe it's actually this retarded


[07-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
his country's actually in the middle of burning down because of his neoliberal ultracapitalist ways, and he's trying to take away benefits and cut jobs


[07-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
the thing about taking away people's jobs is that they have so much more time to subvert the government when they have literally nothing to lose


[07-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
the thing about taking away people's houses is that they have even less to lose


[07-Jan-19 12:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Imagine if Americans weren't such cowards despite muh guns


[07-Jan-19 12:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or brits


[07-Jan-19 12:13 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[07-Jan-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could go for some violent protesting


[07-Jan-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've mulled over what it'd be like if at night, I went to the park in the middle of town and erected a guillotine


[07-Jan-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really as a means of production, more so that i'm stressed and feel liek brekaing things


[07-Jan-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
you won't get organized violent protests in the US before the FBI knocks on your door


[07-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/06/trump-steps-up-border-wall-tweet-storm-in-his-battle-with-congress-over-government-shutdown.html

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Trump steps up border wall Tweet storm in his battle with Congress...
In his battle with Congress over border wall funding, President Donald Trump has leaned heavily on Twitter to rally support among his followers. The strategy seems to be working. That doesn't bode well for a quick resolution to the standoff.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/03/14/105064507-RTS1NFXI.1910x1000.jpg


[07-Jan-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[07-Jan-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3pkoZyYRA

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Three Arrows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3pkoZyYRA
Germany's Demographic Demise? - A Response to The Iconoclast
Is your favorite transnational organization trying to GENOCIDE your race in your sleep? ̶O̶R̶D̶E̶R̶ ̶N̶O̶W̶ Watch to find out! =Support me via= Patreon: http...
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[07-Jan-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://qz.com/1364947/more-than-300000-refugees-have-now-found-jobs-in-germany/

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More than 300,000 refugees have now found jobs in Germany
The key was learning the language.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/h_53163680.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[07-Jan-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny how one of the most common things I see people in fanfics do is give the main character a shitload of money to be able to actually get things done with


[07-Jan-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
whether the character is canonically wealthy or he becomes the next bill gates/elon musk/etc


[07-Jan-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw planning FoE fic and basically intending the MC to be a poor boy.


[07-Jan-19 12:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then he's also not supposed to be an ubermensch that actually defeats the big bad. Or not in the sense of most other fics.


[07-Jan-19 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-bKFo30o2o

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wearepussyriot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-bKFo30o2o
Pussy Riot - Make America Great Again
#PussyGrabsBack #NastyWoman (!) Because YOU decide elections and if we get together, we could blow this shit up, take action and reverse this erosion of righ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s-bKFo30o2o/hqdefault.jpg


[07-Jan-19 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkhS1R8A2Q

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David Hoffman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkhS1R8A2Q
Old NYC Union Guys Know How To Argue
You can see my entire documentary here - https://youtu.be/BNnz1fJkSZk. I was the director & the sole cameraman of this 1965 documentary film in support of a ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfkhS1R8A2Q/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Jan-19 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDyLk_EYdE

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The Dirty Commie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDyLk_EYdE
Seattle Anarchist addresses city council after Amazon tax repeal
"What's up, bootlickers?" "When it's our turn, we will make no excuses for the terror" -- Karl Marx
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3IDyLk_EYdE/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
lol @AaronMk, that pinned comment


[07-Jan-19 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
can people please stop with the radical brainlet assumption of: muh immigrants steal the jobs and the companies don't pay taxes so the immigrants clearly should be punished ree


[07-Jan-19 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
the corporations are doing it for profit, that is the root of the problem


[07-Jan-19 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
these people don't exactly want to be 'illegals' either, if it were easy to go from 'illegal' to legal, one would assume more taxes would be paid too


[07-Jan-19 02:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
therefore, blame the government, not the poor people that your government decided a fascist military dictatorship would be a nice replacement for a democratically elected socialist or not even socialist, vaguely left leaning government that nationalizes land so the people can feed themselves and threatens the profits of an american fruit company


[07-Jan-19 02:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
so just invade them bc commies


[07-Jan-19 02:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
then amgery when their country is now a shithole because you decided to train death squads and coup the government


[07-Jan-19 02:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
also on europe: as the video above says, the migrants thing is basically a 3 year contract, there's no ebil brown people overrunning the country


[07-Jan-19 02:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're returning when the country has theoretically stabilized, has happened with yugoslavia


[07-Jan-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-Jan-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stefan the brainlet


[07-Jan-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s all real racism


[07-Jan-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both of those examples are real racism with differing angles


[07-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if someone is racist towards you, it;s racism, and if people say you deserve the racism for being a certian race it;s racism


[07-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are varying levels of racism but all racism is real racism


[07-Jan-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem here is, Stefan's argument is completely divorced from reality


[07-Jan-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And also falls into the trap of racism being a zero-sum, situational game


[07-Jan-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, watching that meritocracy video, this is shit I realized when I was 16, and let me tell you, that sort of nihilism completely fucks you up if you don't already have a good job (or born into money) to mitigate the impact


[07-Jan-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
knowing that no matter how hard you try, no matter how skilled or intelligent you are, how far you will go will always and forever be determined by people with so much power and so little wisdom


[07-Jan-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's not even a case of the game being rigged from the start, the whole system was rigged from the conception of civilization


[07-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything was rigged when the people who controlled the food became smarter and more powerful because they got fed first and controlled the food.


[07-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracy is basically the biggest affront to this that there has been so far.


[07-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It exists because we hav so much extra food that being on top is no longer a huge advantage


[07-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and also there was a brief period where farmers were many and powerful


[07-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That Democracy is slipping in the west because those on top hav managed to concentrate power is a serious issue.


[07-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by power, I mean power, as well as wealth, they're basically the same thing, sort of.


[07-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're also both food in the end.


[07-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will never, ever worry about whether he'll starve


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the farmers returned with a vengeance


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, food stamps will be short on money in February


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will then be out of money entirely in March


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the shutdown continues even to February, **people will die**


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, the farmers did not return


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people voting for Trump aren't farmers anymore


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
farms hav become giant corporations


[07-Jan-19 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i emant the rich people


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not the voters


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
farmers in rural towns are a dying breed


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich people aren't farmers


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them do real estate like Trump


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i knwo thye arent it was ametaphor, an apparently shit metaphor


[07-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
because real estate is recession-proof, overall very stable, and accrues value over time


[07-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
however, tax law says you can say it loses value over time and the IRS has to believe you and giv you massive tax credits


[07-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Jared Kushner doesn't pay any tax on his massive real estate investments.


[07-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real estate cares little about innovation (don't believe Trump on technological innovation) and in general is in the past on everything, including social values


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
combine with it being basically the best business to maintain huge wealth even if half your businesses fail...


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is why we ended up with Trump.


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberals are cancer btw.


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes they are


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the realestate and banking businesses are huge fucking tumors


[07-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They exist to concentrate power.


[07-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They use the freedom argument behind democracy to argue for their freedom over others to gain and maintain wealth to absurd levels


[07-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which allows them to concentrate tons of power.


[07-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, they are a threat to Democracy


[07-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
their endgame is state capitalism


[07-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, that's what venezuela and china are lol


[07-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Republicans want in the end.


[07-Jan-19 07:25 AM] RYDE#8862
I actually have Food Stamps


[07-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that surprising in hindsight that Nixon went to China.


[07-Jan-19 04:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://allafrica.com/stories/201901060066.html

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Congo-Kinshasa: Congo Election Results Delayed As U.S. Deploys Tro...
The results of last weekend's presidential vote in the Central African nation will be delayed by a week, the electoral commission has announced. The Catholic Church has warned of a popular "uprising" over untrue results.
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[07-Jan-19 04:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shit's getting ugly in Congo


[07-Jan-19 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently, Trump ordered some troops to be sent


[07-Jan-19 04:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm a conservative fight Me


[07-Jan-19 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal 
“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”


[07-Jan-19 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
-Arthur Schopenhauer


[07-Jan-19 04:54 PM] Mikey#7286
conservatism will hold us back


[07-Jan-19 04:57 PM] Mikey#7286
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal you probably watched Ben Shapiro talk, thought he sounded smart and decided you were conservative


[07-Jan-19 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: Shapiro originally aimed for a career in law, but his reputation among employers got ruined after he proved himself too lazy to work. He apparently missed around 70% of all work days.


[07-Jan-19 05:02 PM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[07-Jan-19 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He only became a consrvative pundit after he realized his high school essay about liberals got popular


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] Mikey#7286
i mean he at least does a good job of sounding articulate unlike Trump


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] Mikey#7286
even if he's full of shit


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So basically, when he was in college Shapiro became "syndicated", which is just to say that his upperclassmen friends had friends in another college that they also wanted to post is lolworthy articles in. Shapiro let his place as a "columnist" get to his head and focused on that instead to impress people, including his eventual wife, much to the detriment of his studies, so he placed in the middle band of his graduating class. So when he left he assumed he would just get a high paying legal position at a local firm, but people knew about him and his reputation as lazy and emotionally explosive, and so he got turned down from every firm he went to on the west coast, until he ended up finding a position as a secretary for a clerk at an environmental board out east, where he became known for his constant whining of not being appreciated. His coworkers actually pushed for him to leave, but instead, six months into the job he did a "you can't fire me! I quit!" and left


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He then went on to publish his book "Brainwashed" about evil liberal colleges (which he started when he was in high school btw) and it became popular in the conservative media complex


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[07-Jan-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Info i found on another server)


[07-Jan-19 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
If that's true, that's fucking hilarious


[07-Jan-19 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
and more reason to not take him seriously


[07-Jan-19 06:56 PM] Honahue#0656
He earned a Juris Doctorate but he couldn't bother to show up to work? They must just give those away


[07-Jan-19 08:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No liberals want socialism and that's terrible


[07-Jan-19 08:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also they want to fuck this country up


[07-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Mikey#7286
no


[07-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Mikey#7286
don't assume what dems want


[07-Jan-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
>liberals


[07-Jan-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
>want socialism


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
?


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
ah


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
got it


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
i could argue conservatives was facism


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
"socialism = government does stuff" school of thought


[07-Jan-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
Great Socialist thinker Ramses the Great


[07-Jan-19 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal conservatives want to get rid of science and climate change activism


[07-Jan-19 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
they hate facts and research


[07-Jan-19 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
they want to put religion on everything


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is ironic considering msot of thme probably baught their way through harvard or soem other bullshit ivy league school


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Mikey#7286
yup


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
People say that Marx founded socialism in his (and Engels) Communist Manifesto, but actually it was Hamurabi who made first strides there with his Codex


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
The climate change becuase of the earth


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised people have already forgotten that he just says one liners to try and get people riled up lol


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Mikey#7286
no


[07-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Mikey#7286
humans have caused climate change


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] ononim#8141
Man at least make normal fucking sentences


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Dont worry people are done with your shit


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] ononim#8141
"climate change becuase of the earth" what the fucj does that supposed to mean even


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
>several people are typing


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
nothing


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That it might cause a God damm civil war


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
it means nothing


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the earth naturally goes through climate changes, but humans have sped that up and caused artificial slimate change that woudl have never naturally occured in th eplaces thye are


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
people seriously haven't noticed this guy? he's been here before and people ignored his bait


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
now suddenly people are eating his bait


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
the fuck?


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
idk


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
Fisrt time seeing him


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
i haven't noticed him before


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal you know nothing


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the 90's there was a major problem with acid rain until the EPA put a restriction on coal manufacturing


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
do more research before spouting off bullshit


[07-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I know there is a 99% of a civil waR happening


[07-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[07-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Mikey#7286
are you for real?


[07-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
You think I'm fucking joking


[07-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Mikey#7286
you have no idea what you're talking about


[07-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Mikey#7286
do you listen to ben shapiro?


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
If you try to take people's guns


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
They will fight


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
you probably think conservatives are some perfect bastion of innocence


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one is tryign tot ake guns


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
people want better gun control


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly it;s jsut attmepting to put a heavier process on obtainign them


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] ononim#8141
>he's sudenly about gun


[07-Jan-19 08:41 PM] ononim#8141
what is this guy


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
guns* gdi


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Mikey#7286
he's probably some NRA gun obsessed nut


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
he's a master baiter


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Nah


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
psyche evalutations, proper training, probably afew contracts


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
>liberals are socialists and bad because they are after our gunz


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I care about this country


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Mikey#7286
yes he sounds just like "liberals are bad conservatives are perfect"


[07-Jan-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
Is he aware that there's actually socilaist organisations in US who are pretty pro-gun?


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
I support gun ownership


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No not even the conservative is perfect


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] ononim#8141
Like Socialist Riffle Association for example


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
_responsible_ gun ownership


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gun ownership is great aslogn as th eowners are responsible people


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't met anyone who doesn't support gun ownership


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
and background checks


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that people have actually lost their guns to the government before, but no one revolted


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Mikey#7286
our healthcare system is also _shit_


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
there was no civil war


[07-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim

How else you make the _R E V O L U T I O N_ without guns :NUT:


[07-Jan-19 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in soem countries you need to serve int he military before you can even elgally own a gun


[07-Jan-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
people won't actually fight back, even if the government unilaterally announced they were confiscating every privately owned gun


[07-Jan-19 08:44 PM] ononim#8141
Well have fun with US guncourse here because I'll fuck off since I don't know much about check sides of things in US and I heard mixed things about the system


[07-Jan-19 08:44 PM] ononim#8141
try and not destroy the channel


[07-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel like that might be one thing trump might try if he actually declares a state of emergency to get the wall built


[07-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Mikey#7286
i don't think a rando should just walk into a shop and be allowed to buy a handgun


[07-Jan-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the weird part ios the only answer people tend to give towards the "thye want to take muh gunz away" bit is to hoard more guns to protect their guns...


[07-Jan-19 08:45 PM] ononim#8141
US people: we have our second amendment to have guns so we can overthrow tyrannical government if it arises!


[07-Jan-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is counter productive as fuck


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Mikey#7286
also, i don't think US civilians need rocket launchers and MGs


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it already arose and we did nothing


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] ononim#8141
US government: *trads all other them to the point there they conduct bio weapon and actual fucking mind control experiments on populace*


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] ononim#8141
US people: *crickets*


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's legal to own a tank as long as it doesnt have the gun bits on it


[07-Jan-19 08:46 PM] ononim#8141
France: *cuts welfare while rising taxes*


[07-Jan-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think you need a specific liscense though


[07-Jan-19 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
French people: **Time for Guillotine 2**


[07-Jan-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i kinda respect the french mroe for that


[07-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Mikey#7286
behead me daddy :NUT:


[07-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
_chops._


[07-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Mikey#7286
thank


[07-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Mikey

But what if _Communists_ will assault the country?


[07-Jan-19 08:51 PM] Mikey#7286
idk


[07-Jan-19 08:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Then all these guns will be useful :NUT:


[07-Jan-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point we;ve gone thorugh so much propaganda we have no idea who the fuck the enemy is


[07-Jan-19 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our main enemies at this point are neo liberals, but they've pushed propaganda so well, they've succesfully infiltrated both parties


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda)

What about millenials?


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're more invested in Republicans


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you kill the Republican party by having Democrats cast it out as too neoliberal


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
the neoliberals in the Democrats will try to avoid the line of fire


[07-Jan-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
millenials aren't a political party, they're an age group of people


[07-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
An age group that hates neoliberalism


[07-Jan-19 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i agree there


[07-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
whereas Baby Boomers live and breathe it, Silents tacitly accept it, and Gen X doesn't really care.


[07-Jan-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I donlt really knwo how gen x feels in terms of political opinion. I rarely hear anything about them


[07-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X is basically as well-off as Baby Boomers and they hav Millennial kids they don't really agree with


[07-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're barely in politics at all


[07-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
gen x works super hard for what little you can get without being rich


[07-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
and keeps their heads down


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're essentially a generation that got skipped politically because they didn't think much different than Boomers, were less interested, and let Baby Boomers amass power


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
basically the perfect workers


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But truth be told we already won


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
won how to cast bait, maybe


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then their kids got shafted because of college debt


[07-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Did you win 2016


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the housing industry


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody won 2016


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
not even Republicans, in the end


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Mikey#7286
nupe


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
2016 was a lose-lose


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump "won"


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I hope Ben runs


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They've come onto a pretty terrible decline from having a leader whose populism is tearing apart the party


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Mikey#7286
a platform to be loud and childish for all to see


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Mikey#7286
no


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
>shut down the gov't while holding all three branches


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No body ain't taking your shit no more


[07-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Ben Carson is awful


[07-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I hope abbot runs


[07-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Mikey#7286
i like having homosexual rights thanks


[07-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Has he not like been subpeona'd about his spending in regards to office furniture?


[07-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It seemed pretty clearly to be some crazy embezzlement going on.


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
You know if you impeach trump you get pence


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, I expect others like Zinke to get away scott free, but to at least face some questions.


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pence is honestly preferable


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pence wouldn't imperil things with a shutdown over some wall


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and he wouldn't be able to repeal gay marriage


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Pence will push gay conversion therapy


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yup


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will do the former and will try to do the latter if he sees an opportunity


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Mikey#7286
bad


[07-Jan-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is pretty much under investigation by atleast 4 government agencies


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would seriously pardon someone if they did forced gay conversion therapy


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't giv one shit about gay rights


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
heard of this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

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[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
In god we trust


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will pardon anyone willing to commit federal crimes


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286
god isn't real


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
he ran in 2011 to be the 2012 republican candidate


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the type ofmpeople he needs to run his party


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Enjoy hell


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286
he's a delusion


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Mikey#7286
religion is delusion


[07-Jan-19 09:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase I'm sure you'll love it


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
but then got inundated with a bunch of sexual harassment allegations which all immediately disappeared once he dropped out of the race


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump can;t have honest people in his cabinet because they'd get in his way


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
nope


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
One thing will happen


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
He prefers acting cabinet members too


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
You will lose


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
more "flexible"


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more easily fireable too


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becusse at the end we won


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is winning all that matters to you?


[07-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
are you capable of making coherent statements


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And I hope you get ready for your fall


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
no, because he's bait


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it okay if the world is on fire, people are starving, and human rights don't exist


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you win?


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase it has just begun


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Mikey#7286
@Crow yeah definitely


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
he only knows how to bait


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont care about hell, hell is a pointlessly stupid system that makes no sense


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it okay if America loses all its geopolitical influence


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of a crazy trade war


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) agreed


[07-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you win?


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or if it can't negotiate simple deals with any but the largest players, because there are no ambassadors on staff...if you win?


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Quit being salty and stop acting like a 2 year old child


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
You lost


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it okay if we cede the steps taken to save the planet to India and China...if you win?


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point of hell is to make sinful souls repent for their ill deeds, but if the punishment is eternal then it doesnt teahc any lessons and doesn't really give any point in tryign to better yourself thorugh th epunishment


[07-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
he's looking in the mirror again


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
is it even a he?


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
how do we tell


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If winning means these things


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
then I don't think winning should be the goal.


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at that point it;s jsut pointless torture for the sake of pointless torture


[07-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is people who value some abstract notion of victory against all common sense who are...immature.


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Mikey#7286
wait


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's what she said


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Like I said


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Mikey#7286
this is the guy that said the brony fandom is dead and G5 will be shit


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Social justice warriors are killing the Democrats


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Fine


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But get ready for a ass beating


[07-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again you revert to that


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m terrified


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it all just a boxing match to you?


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just petrified


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is more one the line here.


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our country is losing skilled workers to Germany right now


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
because Germany offers free college


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No becuase if you pissed the wrong people off your fucked


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
and we offer debt-saddling with no job prospects.


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
...are you saying that the mob is going to come after me because I think gay people should hav human rights?


[07-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/529383829899575319


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
this is what happened the last time he was around


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if so, I will happily stand up to them.


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm in college takign a STEM field course and even i dont have high hopes for a job afterwards


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Mikey#7286
our government offshored all our jobs while they brought mexicans in to work and those same government officials are complaining about them now


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our country is losing its influence and capability


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont have a problem with gays


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
and its spending time and effort making itself worse with ridiculous trade wars.


[07-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then what *do* you hav a problem with?


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I have a problem with censorship


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean like how Trump has been censoring climate science?


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then take it up with the conservatives


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav a problem with that, right?


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
You censor our point of views


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cconservatives cesor shit way mroe heavily than liberals


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Excuse me, I don't remember signing onto something censoring your views.


[07-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Oh really


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Explain that to YouTube


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not YouTube


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Exactly


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
youtube is abroken system with a terrible algorithm


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I also oppose many aspects of what YouTube is doing


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and YouTube is not some big Democratic corporation


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
youtube is censoring more than just conservatives


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Youtube has censored other news outlets so has Facebook


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they arent liberal, they're ad agency whores


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
yep


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Nah


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
they censor liberals too


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are companies, highly neoliberal ones


[07-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Look at the youtube rewind


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what we were talking about as being a problem in both parties


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah and neoliberal=/= liberal


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
youtube isnt cesnroing shit cause "muh feelings" they're censorign shit to appeal to ad agencies


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think opposing YouTube's policies means supporting Trump?


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Which are left companies


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
becaue investors liek nice sparkly clean things


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a binary decision, Hillary doesn't care about YouTube


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie might


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Still


[07-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Still what?


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[07-Jan-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
investors are also so out of touch with what people actually buy, it;s not even funny at this point


[07-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are censoring things in large part because conservatives hav, for decades, opposed showing nudity and violence


[07-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Now I dont even know what the fuck is going on


[07-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I linked that real life loot box video in #general-discussion when people were talking about loot boxes, and I think everyone was subconsciously ignoring it because of the horrifying implications of real life loot boxes


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's going on is that the Koch Brothers want companies in control


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm a conservative becuase of my parents


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they own most of the Republican party and much of the Democratic party


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
you don't have to be conservative because your parents are


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the koch brothers are a monstrosity in modern politics


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Koch Brothers want you seeing their effects and turning to Republicans


[07-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want you actually opposing them


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want you to elect Republicans who will turn a blind eye to YouTube's policies while doing some theater asking if it's censoring


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont have a choice


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans right now hav almost no interest in monopoly-busting.


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You always hav a choice.


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I really dont


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Of course you do. It's called reading a book.


[07-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to stop these giant corporations from controlling everything, Bernie is the current best bet


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
he isn't a fan of it


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans would prefer it if all media was owned by disney, because disney is good at makignt hings clean and family friendly


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont really have the freedom to vote anything else


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump however will say he dislikes PARTICULAR companies, but he will only make passing efforts to hammer a few


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like disturbingly good at it


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He won't support real reform that stops it from happening in the first place.


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it will be before disney starts purging literally everything about its history


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has liekly been a middle man to msot of those companies as well


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He makes a big deal out of draining the swamp, but all of his cabinet is wealthy prikks, with huge industry ties


[07-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
because of the racist/sexist/etc stuff they made


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want reform, Trump isn't your man


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they arelady are thorugh soft backtrackign


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has undergone 0 reform efforts.


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such as never re-releasing th eoffensive stuff


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The closest he came was the tax code changes


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
...all of which favored YouTube etc.


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Draint he swamp was jsut soemthing his campaign staff came up with that soudned good


[07-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
by making their taxes way lower while giving middle and lower class America nothing


[07-Jan-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
it also is getting rid of SALT deductions which means that in a few years you'll be paying more taxes


[07-Jan-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
while YouTube pays less.


[07-Jan-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he didnt intend to folloow through on it, but it was a feel goodphrase for his supporters to lathc onto


[07-Jan-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is really good at one thing, manipulation


[07-Jan-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's had decades to perfect his craft of lying to public crowds


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Investors love someone who can talk them into something.


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this worked a lot better before digital media, but he will still fidn a base of supporters who latch onto his soft underbelly


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ain't thier a difference between socialism and communism


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of differnces yes


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what msot people want isnt socialism either


[07-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s social democracy


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both of them are umbrella terms with little real meaning


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I do like the idea of free college


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is sort of a hybrid of socialism and capitalism in a way that fuels the economy and th epeopel at the same time


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But it would make the debt sick


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
"socialism" is something or other about the gov't providing for people with services


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Suck


[07-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
"communism" is something or other about the gov't taking over all business


[07-Jan-19 09:24 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I just dpnt want the economy to crash


[07-Jan-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well aslong as we run on pure capitalism it;s goign to crash off a cliff into the mariana trench


[07-Jan-19 09:24 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But


[07-Jan-19 09:24 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont know


[07-Jan-19 09:24 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont like gun control


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I do want to keep my guns


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The economy is about to crash


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of trade war making people skittish


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
all this uncertainty is hurting wall street now


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you always have choices but choices coem with consiquences, so take every thing with a grain of salt


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And having to reimburse farmers for lost crop sales is...not great


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
in regards to steel tariffs


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do research, think on it, and keep informed


[07-Jan-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
George W Bush did the same thing with them


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what happened after, @Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal, to the American steel industry?


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take a guess.


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh hi market crash


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
it's called the great recession


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
They went to China or other countries


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the tariff was on imported steel


[07-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly, companies faced a choice between the already-expensive American steel


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
the now-expensive-too foreign steel


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
or stop using steel


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont want trump running on 2020


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
they chose the third option


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
American steel production suddenly dropped


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
because nobody wanted to buy steel at all


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
American steel production is used to supplement when the foreign steel can't quite meet a whole order


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
but if the foreign steel is super expensive too


[07-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
the order just doesn't get made


[07-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it makes more business sense to use plastic or something


[07-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I hope by later 2020 we can go to digital currency


[07-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tariffs can hurt the very businesses they try to protect.


[07-Jan-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now a lot of cpmanies liek harley davidson have had to set up europe side factories and busnisses to compensate for the tarrifs


[07-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for gun control, the main thing would be to go after semi automatic weapons


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
as well as to hav a more uniform thing for buying them and storing them


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of the problem is kids can get guns, which never ends well.


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about militias


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't hav militias anymore


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
California saw one forming and shut it the fukk down


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know about that?


[07-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well what about this


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I can get a gun if my life was threatened


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our government is pretty fucking fast in shuttign down potential uprisings


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Just to protect my self


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
California actually has made that pretty loose in terms of getting a license


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to establish that your life was threatened


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
after a particular court case (that the guy lost, but the counties thought about loosening anyways)


[07-Jan-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah just get an open carry license  and soem proper training


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they require a license to begin with cause of that militia that was forming


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
in response to police brutality, the idea was to carry loaded weapons so police would know better than to fukk with them.


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Texas has a militia


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Reagan shut down that militia


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
A bunch of scary blakk men with loaded guns was upsetting


[07-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA was right behind him.


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Plus I dont know


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I think the education system sucks


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really does


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and coservatives are trying to make it worse and worse


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with the education system is a few things


[07-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Its very outdated


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
the big one is that it's funded by local property taxes with no pooling in most states


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means if you're in a poor area, you get a poor school


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Mikey#7286
it doesn't teach people how to survive in the real world


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you're in a rich area, you get a rich school


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I went to the best high school


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, you often get a choice of only one school


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Mikey#7286
it teaches arbitrary shit you'll forget after you leave


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most local religious groups try to force schools to not teach sex ed


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
which...isn't a choice.


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many political groups also try to affect what's taught


[07-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Mikey#7286
stuff you can learn on the internet


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
like putting in that McCarthy was right or such


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the internet has fixed some of this but  a lto of the damage is alreayd done


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Texas and California are the big two with that power, cause textbooks are often written for them to create the same books across many states for best profits


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
of course


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
textbooks are also incredibly expensive


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
yet schools are required to buy them.


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Plus school is just 4 major subjects


[07-Jan-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they can only buy certain books because of those decisions on what the books hav to say


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Though I'm agienst michels food policy on school lunch


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
all to propagandize to our youth


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Michelle Obama, and what part of her policy?


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
The school lunches


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
What about them?


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oens where students were supposed to get healthy protions of real food?


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
They are like eating prison food


[07-Jan-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's the schools fault ont hat one


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye cheaped out and used th eminimum required measuremnts for portions


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
michelle's school food thing was really stupid


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well thank God for my freshmen years of high school


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Schools serve prison food whether or not you force them to eat healthy


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye tried to cut corners on everything, and that plan was not greatly thoguh out to begin with


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we need is for universal funding for school lunches.


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
No kids should hav to go hungry


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
My high school had a pizza hut and a subway


[07-Jan-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not great.


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And q coffee shop


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kids withn no money shouldnt be forced to eat a packet of crackers with nothing else


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving over feeding our kids to private business that givs them unhealthy food...


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
neoliberalism strikes again.


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Our high school was like awesome


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m fidning this at my college as well


[07-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need to pay money for every source of food thye have


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well of course


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't hav to be that way, tho.


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vending machines, cafeteria, there;s no form of seasonal pass sytem either


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cant just buy a lunch pass


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
I've heard of things like fried chicken being confiscated for not being healthy


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
We did at our school


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is so fragmented


[07-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
part of the problem's the constitution on the matter


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't want the federal gov't in charge of education


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
for fear it'd indoctrinate


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl gladly pay for a lunch pass at my college for a semester of beign able to order what i want when i need it


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
so it can do these basic programs that effectively do it


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
homemade meals being thrown out because the school said it was "unhealthy"


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it can't really coordinate properly


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But we should not do wars


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
War is bad


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
it's not really a systemic thing, it's just random schools being shitty


[07-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do wars hav to do with this?


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm on my next topic


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Why war


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean pulling troops out of the Middle East?


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm worried about big countries


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you arguing about anything specific?


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or just general?


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite afew schools are under pressure from large corporatiosn to ahve their funding stripped unless they treat lunch in a certain fashion. like confiscating hoe made lunches because students didnt pay the corporations for those.


[07-Jan-19 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/09/29/durham-parents-infuriated-after-kids-lunches-snacks-taken-away-for-being-unhealthy.html

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Durham parents ‘infuriated’ after kids’ lunches, snacks take...
Goldfish crackers, pizza, and string cheese among the items deemed too inappropriate for some classrooms.
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[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's gay


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
Increasingly, parents in Durham say schools are policing the food in kids’ backpacks — from telling students they aren’t permitted to eat snacks that are deemed unhealthy, to entire lunches being withheld and sent home.


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Why do schools do this


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a dirty way to monopolize school lunches is what it is


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Schools do it because fundamentally


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are run by people who want power


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
children are easily to keep in line and control


[07-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I hope things get better


[07-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
schoolboards are pakked with people who just love the rush of being able to force kids to do stuff or not do stuff


[07-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's the same thing as with the school bathroom trans stuff


[07-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I'm sorry Jimmy, you havn't gotten surgery yet, so how dare you enter the boys' room I followed you to


[07-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, think how fukked up that would be to do to anyone IRL


[07-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
as an adult


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The bathrooms hav private stalls and everything, it's a minor matter if someone goes in the wrong one.


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that person woudl liekly be  charged with stalking


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
But, schoolboards


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Do any of you have have a problem with Republicans


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll go after kids who make the peace sign as GANG SIGNS as well


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but children don't know these laws, which makes them far easier to manipulate and pressure


[07-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a problem with the current Republican platform.


[07-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
My grandparents hated Nixon


[07-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially on voting rights, taxes, foreign relations...


[07-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically everything important.


[07-Jan-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the onyl real laws that small children are taught is that stelaing is wrong and dont drop trow in public


[07-Jan-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon was a crook...and he laid out the Southern Strategy


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But I hope we dont get Biden


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
HW Bush was a crook too


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
I don't even know what biden's policies are lol


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Biden is a war hawk


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
he was just a living meme


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Biden's policies are largely Obama-lite


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
for his entire time as VP


[07-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, everyone who's been elected since Carter is a war hawk


[07-Jan-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my problem with hillary's policies is she didnt have any, she mostly echoed a vague notion of "the obama legacy"


[07-Jan-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think what we should be doing is actually trying to rebuild infrastructure in the middle east before pulling out as it stabilizes.


[07-Jan-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get them driving to McDonald's instead of sitting in the countryside reflecting on how much they hate the west.


[07-Jan-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which didnt detail anyuthing specific as to which part of his legacy she meant


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Drone strikes are his legacy to most of the Middle East


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you one time called someone who later joined Al Qaeda?


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his war legacy, his health care legacy?


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
RIP ALL YOUR FAMILY


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That just festers resentment.


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
I know drone strikes risk less of our own to take people out but like


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are waaaaaay too imprecise


[07-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they inherently lead to us killing people that aren't our enemies


[07-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
that creates huge problems.


[07-Jan-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"oh one terrorist is in the vicinity? time to decimate an entire crowd of people!"


[07-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama at one point talked about how he worried a future president would engage in shadow wars across the globe with drones


[07-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
and I was like


[07-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
dude look in a mirror


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
our failure to support the Kurds is a big deal


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I liked his health care policies but his war policies were questionable at best


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey hates the Kurds and giving them human rights


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are also the most stable faction amidst the Syrian civil war and the most stable part of Iraq


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that his healthcare policy was basically a slightly different version of what the republicans wanted to pass


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Iraqi kurdistan tried to declare independence to get away from the shittiness of Iraq


[07-Jan-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Iraq just stormed in with troops last year


[07-Jan-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
basically a neoliberal stopgap meant to satisfy people without actually fixing the underlying problem


[07-Jan-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv the kurds their own damn country so they can stop being oppressed


[07-Jan-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatly so


[07-Jan-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Turkey in NATO was a bad idea


[07-Jan-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
we basically can never go against them, even if they're invading a wartorn Syria just to gobble up territory


[07-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would've been fine if we had stopped Erdogan somehow


[07-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But nope


[07-Jan-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.army-technology.com/news/germany-nato-high-readiness-joint-task-force/

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nvictor
https://www.army-technology.com/news/germany-nato-high-readiness-joint-task-force/
Germany to lead Nato’s very high readiness joint task force
Germany has assumed the responsibility of Nato's VJTF, a joint force, consisting of a land component, supported by air, maritime and special forces.
https://www.army-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/Nato-VJTF.jpg


[07-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
why did ukraine never join NATO?


[07-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations#Euromaidan_and_beyond

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[07-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
apparently they're in the process of joining now


[07-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
it just wasn't popular before russia invaded crimea


[07-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
but now over 2/3rds of the population supports it


[07-Jan-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/politics/on-politics-bolton-syria-withdrawal.html here's afew political news summaries

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On Politics: Bolton Puts Conditions on a Syria Withdrawal
John R. Bolton, President Trump’s national security adviser, said American forces would remain in Syria until the last remnants of the Islamic State were defeated.
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/images/icons/defaultPromoCrop.png


[07-Jan-19 11:19 PM] moonatik#3676
you know it's fucked when john bolton and noam chomsky agree on something


[08-Jan-19 12:50 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah


[08-Jan-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
watching the stock market go up and down is like watching a particularly explosive rollercoaster


[08-Jan-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or a bomb strapped to a yo-yo


[08-Jan-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/border-national-emergency-white-house-counsel/index.html

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Pence: White House looking into ability to declare border emergency
Vice President Mike Pence said Monday that the White House counsel is looking at the President's ability to declare a national emergency to fund border security, something President Donald Trump has repeatedly said he is considering as partial government shutdown negotiations...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190104154018-donald-trump-january-4-2019-03-super-tease.jpg


[08-Jan-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-military-version-of-eminent-domain-proposal-is-entirely-out-of-trumps-self-interest/

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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-military-version-of-eminent-domain-proposal-is-entirely-out-of-trumps-self-interest/
The Military Version of Eminent Domain Proposal Is Entirely Out of...
His order would get blocked, which would allow him to pin blame on the “establishment.”
https://i2.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/donald-trump-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C700&ssl=1


[08-Jan-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump just tried to coin the term "military emminent domain"


[08-Jan-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt exist


[08-Jan-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
military emminent domain is called invading your own country to seize some farmland in texas using military force


[08-Jan-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he doesn;t want to file eminent domain in the courts so he;s considering using military force to seize land...


[08-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://la.curbed.com/2018/9/14/17856870/california-poverty-rate-housing-cost-of-living

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Accounting for housing costs, California has nation’s highest po...
A new report suggests 19 percent of Californians are impoverished.
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[08-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
Unlike the traditional definition of poverty, which has been in use since the 1960s, the supplemental poverty measure takes into account the costs of housing, healthcare, and child care in the areas where people live.


[08-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
According to the report, housing costs were likely a key factor in boosting the supplemental poverty measure rate in the 16 states where this number was higher than the traditional poverty measure.


[08-Jan-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they're actually taking into account the things that make up poverty now?


[08-Jan-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/senate-democrats-mull-blocking-legislation-shutdown/index.html

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Senate Democrats considering blocking all legislation that doesn't...
Senate Democrats will try to block action on a Syria sanctions bill when it comes up for a vote Tuesday, an effort to keep the focus on the government shutdown.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190104134004-03-dems-presser-0104-super-tease.jpg


[08-Jan-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sanders-repeats-claim-on-terrorists-at-the-border-refuted-by-administrations-own-data-chris-wallace-fox-news-sunday/

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Sanders repeats claim on terrorists at the border refuted by admin...
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders on Sunday repeated a false claim put forth by her and other Trump administration officials
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[08-Jan-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/latino/424221-border-patrol-stopped-six-immigrants-suspected-of-terrorism-in-first-half-of-2018-nbc

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Border patrol stopped six immigrants suspected of terrorism in fir...
Border patrol stopped a total of six migrants suspected of terrorism in the first half of 2018, according to
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/borderwall_010119getty.jpg


[08-Jan-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
only 6 suspected terrorists were stopped at the border in the first half of 2018


[08-Jan-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
the rest came in from planes or boats


[08-Jan-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-congresswoman-nanette-barragan-border-visit-trump-administration-fabricating-national-security-crisis/

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Democratic congresswoman after border visit: Trump administration ...
Rep. Nanette Barragán accused the president of misleading the American public to build his proposed border barrier
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/10/20/bb1cac5e-8457-4a16-8973-38fe716b77ce/thumbnail/1200x630/73cca5540cf575f8a417bb065694185b/ap-17292757424924.jpg


[08-Jan-19 08:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Border security is like a house"


[08-Jan-19 08:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But we live in a society


[08-Jan-19 11:42 AM] Yuri#4154

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[08-Jan-19 12:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the more i hear about ben shapiro the more he sounds like a jerry smith


[08-Jan-19 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.earth.com/news/coal-plants-closed-trump/

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https://www.earth.com/news/coal-plants-closed-trump/
More coal plants closed under Trump than during Obama’s first 4 ...
More coal plants have been retired in the first two years of Trump's presidency than the first four years that Obama spent in office.
https://cff2.earth.com/uploads/2019/01/07170146/More-coal-plants-closed-under-Trump-than-during-Obama%E2%80%99s-4-years.jpg


[08-Jan-19 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/JAPUP8B

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Love you, NASA
https://i.imgur.com/SJtVww4h.jpg


[08-Jan-19 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ed-buck-protestors-chant-arrest-him-now-after-second-man-dies-inside-home-of-wealthy-democratic-donor

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Protesters Chant ‘Arrest Him Now’ After Second Man Dies Inside...
Two men have died in 18 months inside Ed Buck’s West Hollywood apartment which has been described as a ‘death chamber’ for black men.
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[08-Jan-19 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
christ


[08-Jan-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason he's not in prison is because he's a rich donator


[08-Jan-19 05:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480

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Outcry over fundraising for protest boxer
A fundraising page for a French ex-boxer filmed punching police is closed amid condemnation.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/122A0/production/_105100447_051506320-1.jpg


[08-Jan-19 05:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-boxer/french-ministers-aghast-at-support-for-boxer-who-fought-police-idUSKCN1P20ET

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French ministers aghast at support for boxer who fought police
A former French boxing champion who surrendered to police after he was filmed ra...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190108&t=2&i=1343328815&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF070AP


[08-Jan-19 05:26 PM] Crow#5457
A former French boxing champion who surrendered to police after he was filmed raining blows on riot officers during a “yellow vest” protest has received tens of thousands of euros in public donations, infuriating government ministers.


[08-Jan-19 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
so basically, people supported the fuck out of a boxer who was defending people from brutal police attacks


[08-Jan-19 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
so the french government got pissed and had the donation page shut down


[08-Jan-19 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
it's like france actually wants to start a fucking civil war lol


[08-Jan-19 05:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They tried back in 1968, but that didn't do it


[08-Jan-19 05:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe they're trying again


[08-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/french-pm-says-masks-will-be-banned-protests-amid-yellow-n956016

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Wearing a mask at a protest in France could soon land you in jail
Troublemakers will also be forced to pay for property damage occurring during demonstrations, instead of taxpayers.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2707851/190108-yellow-vests-mc-943_a8767fe3c7c48b637702ed6fb04799bc.1200;630;7;70;5.JPG


[08-Jan-19 05:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Good luck identifying people with masks on.


[08-Jan-19 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
they confiscate masks and charge a fine right now


[08-Jan-19 05:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Only if they catch them.


[08-Jan-19 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
they're also trying to make the protesters pay for all damage instead of paying with taxpayer money, even if they aren't actually the ones causing the destruction


[08-Jan-19 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How will they identify who caused what instance of damage though


[08-Jan-19 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If a car gets toppled and set on fire, who pays for it?


[08-Jan-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it arbitrarily defined by the cops?


[08-Jan-19 05:38 PM] Crow#5457
Philippe said the proposed law would result in troublemakers being forced to pay property damage occurring during demonstrations, instead of taxpayers.


[08-Jan-19 05:38 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, that's the point, they'll charge all protesters for the damage, not just the ones causing damage


[08-Jan-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ugh


[08-Jan-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine what a bunch of upstart infiltrators could do


[08-Jan-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There could be people getting into the crowd just to break stuff, just for shits and giggles


[08-Jan-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/cBjJrU4.jpg

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[08-Jan-19 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, racism towards... idk, Stefan Molyneux?


[08-Jan-19 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Dear Hillary Clinton, where's the white genocide you promised?"


[08-Jan-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gordon-ramsay-sofia-vergara-jay-leno-video-tonight-show-2010-metoo-sexist-a8717286.html

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Gordon Ramsay criticised for 'inappropriate' behaviour towards Sof...
The clip makes for uncomfortable viewing in the wake of #MeToo
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[08-Jan-19 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Oy vey


[08-Jan-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
I just want to say fuck #metoo

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[08-Jan-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[08-Jan-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This shit should be called out and no one should feel safe acting like this


[08-Jan-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You learn at age 5 to stop touching people when they don't want it


[08-Jan-19 07:43 PM] Mikey#7286
Except


[08-Jan-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only thing that will stop it honestly is being afraid of someone responding to this with violence


[08-Jan-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Touch me when I don't want and tell you to stop you should get what's coming to you


[08-Jan-19 07:44 PM] Mikey#7286
You got women who are doing it just to get money and who might be bullshitting because it's the popular thing now, and the guy you're accusing probably just fooled around and didn't actually touch you but since every woman is doing it they are acting greedy


[08-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Mikey#7286
A lot of these are allegations with little to no proof


[08-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Like Neil Tyson for example


[08-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
The guy is successful, and he probably just got a little drunk but didn't do anything inappropriate at all


[08-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
But with the whole movement now they want some of that success money


[08-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
But fuck due process I guess right?


[08-Jan-19 07:47 PM] DevField#5162
Mikey.. mikey. Don't you remember? all men are potential rapists. If a woman says it happened, it happened


[08-Jan-19 07:47 PM] DevField#5162
tsk tsk


[08-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Like I agree some of them are true


[08-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Like Kevin Spacey


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
99% of these accusers don't even have their names remembered


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't for fame ffs


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] DevField#5162
It's for attention and a sob story


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] DevField#5162
:twismug:


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
Do you have evidence for that?


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
I find 99% hard to believe


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Name the person who accused Tyson.


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Without Googling it


[08-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
4 women accused him


[08-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't remember any of their names


[08-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the fucking point


[08-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How could it be for attention


[08-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't get it


[08-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Mikey#7286
What do names have to do with it?


[08-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Mikey#7286
I seriously doubt the vast majority of The accusations are true


[08-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If people just do it for attention or to follow the crowd people would remember their names


[08-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah, people who aren't accused but onlookers


[08-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I posted fucking video evidence of Ramsay creeping her out


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
some black guy ran for republican nominee for president in 2012, once he started gaining traction a like 6 sexual harassment allegations came out and he dropped out of the race to "preserve the stability of his family" or whatever, and the allegations all just suddenly immediately disappeared


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How much more explicit of harassment do you need


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
herman cain or something was his name


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not talking about Ramsay


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
But other ones where there's no evidence


[08-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Besides he said she said


[08-Jan-19 07:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Except for ones like Spacey who dodged the accusations with "I'm gay though!"


[08-Jan-19 07:54 PM] Mikey#7286
But I don't believe for a second Tyson sexually harassed anyone


[08-Jan-19 07:55 PM] DevField#5162
*let me be frank*

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[08-Jan-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/technology/2018/12/neil-degrasse-tyson-sexual-harassment-allegations-response.html

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https://slate.com/technology/2018/12/neil-degrasse-tyson-sexual-harassment-allegations-response.html
Neil deGrasse Tyson’s Response to Allegations of
    Sexual Assa...
The physics genius doesn't understand power.
https://compote.slate.com/images/df8183fa-d31a-4fe0-b769-23f72703c227.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=2199x1466&offset=1x0


[08-Jan-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
One thing that struck me while reading his note is that he confirms doing many of the more minor things the women bring up, but he denies that any of them were harmful.


[08-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm sorry but that article sounds biased against him


[08-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways @Itsthinking, I feel like sexual harassment allegations shouldn't just stop because there was a settlement or whatever


[08-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
and the issue shouldn't just be droppable


[08-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Mikey#7286
I think the accused should be innocent until proven guilty


[08-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
people shouldn't be able to come out of the woodworks out of nowhere, make a claim, refuse to back up that claim, and then suddenly drop off the radar


[08-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Mikey#7286
That's what I take issue with


[08-Jan-19 08:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Ones who refuse to back themselves up


[08-Jan-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
there are people actually having their lives ruined, losing their jobs, getting kicked out of college, etc due to accusations that eventually prove fruitless


[08-Jan-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are anti-victim


[08-Jan-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're fine


[08-Jan-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, there are also women being harassed, but that doesn't mean people should suddenly be thrown out of society before any investigation is done at all


[08-Jan-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And please if you can be president or a SCOTUS judge (two times that happened) no excuse


[08-Jan-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://abc13.com/ex-college-student-sent-to-prison-for-false-rape-accusation/4042529/

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Ex-college student sent to prison for false rape accusation
The student said she made up the allegations because she worried her consensual encounter with the two athletes would damage her relationship with another student.
https://cdns.abclocal.go.com/content/wls/images/cms/automation/images/3559276_1280x720.jpg


[08-Jan-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
like this should be the penalty for false accusations


[08-Jan-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
universally


[08-Jan-19 08:05 PM] Mikey#7286
This^^^^^


[08-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
She said she made up the allegations in 2016 because she worried her consensual encounter with the two players would damage her relationship with another student.


[08-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Mikey#7286
I do not approve of someone's life being ruined over allegations that turn out to be false


[08-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Is infuriates me


[08-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
>Both withdrew from the school, and one lost his football scholarship over the incident.


[08-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People have more respect for accused murderers than people who bring rape allegations


[08-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Mikey#7286
And even after they admit they made it up the accused is still fucked


[08-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking that's not the point?


[08-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This shits all a red herring and exists to justify disbelieving victims


[08-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
So basically


[08-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/06/11/college-students-accused-assault-ramifications-real/686951002/

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For college students accused of assault, 'ramifications are real'
UM lawsuit on behalf of student who claims his rights were violated shows challenges in school policies aimed at protecting victims
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b8817fa31830ecf6f3c044bc9bfb3a721ec1548f/c=0-50-1000-615/local/-/media/2018/06/11/DetroitNews/DetroitNews/636643444635030735-diag.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[08-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck the ones who are actually innocent


[08-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Got it


[08-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tiny minority, sad but still a minority and people feel bad for them


[08-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's a minority of cases


[08-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Not enough to get their lives back on track


[08-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Mikey#7286
And I'd like proof they're a minority


[08-Jan-19 08:10 PM] DevField#5162
I'm with Mikey on this


[08-Jan-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's obvious that the current legal system was not set up to handle the instantaneous travel of information caused by the internet


[08-Jan-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's probably the reason why the mueller investigations have been so tight-lipped


[08-Jan-19 08:10 PM] DevField#5162
There were those "consent" apps brought out, but I think they were trashed.


[08-Jan-19 08:10 PM] DevField#5162
I know it wouldn't really solve the problem though


[08-Jan-19 08:11 PM] DevField#5162
and could easily be manipulated


[08-Jan-19 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
One of Kavanaugh's accusers admitted she made hers up


[08-Jan-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-new-home/201810/rape-allegations

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Rape Allegations
I discuss rape claims, commonality of false ones, & causes of delayed reporting.
https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/field_blog_entry_images/2018-09/christine_blasey_ford-violence-rape-psychology.png


[08-Jan-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.courant.com/education/hc-yale-khan-suspended-sexual-assault-allegations-20181010-story.html

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Student Suspended After Sexual Assault Allegation Sues To Force Ya...
A Yale student has asked a judge to force Yale to lift his suspension from the university after a story in the Yale Daily News reported sexual assault allegations against him.
https://www.courant.com/resizer/QLtnT8Co44s6YZqOXLb-AgxHLRQ=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/YETTEOFC4ZEXHMNYLORCZP3S2Q.jpg


[08-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think anyone here has attempted to claim that accusers aren't treat poorly


[08-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
just that the accused are being treated like they're already convicted


[08-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I were a woman I'd just wear a body cam at every party


[08-Jan-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Court of public opinion is irrelevant ultimately


[08-Jan-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
it's not irrelevant when people are losing their places in society at the mere whiff of an accusation


[08-Jan-19 08:14 PM] DevField#5162
Pretty sure they don't. Yet every male taxi driver nowadays has a dashcam to protect against allegations


[08-Jan-19 08:14 PM] DevField#5162
It's so easy to make an allegation


[08-Jan-19 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just don't do what Pence does fyi


[08-Jan-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
this is obviously a big government conspiracy in order to encourage the proliferation of cameras

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[08-Jan-19 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He could easily have been sued not for sexual assault but for discrimination


[08-Jan-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
eventually, only people with something to hide won't be wearing bodycams


[08-Jan-19 08:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Due process should always be mandatory


[08-Jan-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed in all of this that no one has brought up how often in sex ed for boys "okay here's not how to get accused of rape" is discussed


[08-Jan-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not "don't rape"


[08-Jan-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"here's how to not get accused"


[08-Jan-19 08:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Someone shouldn't say "I was raped by this person" and they're immediately fucked without evidence


[08-Jan-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
I never saw anything like that in sex ed


[08-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
just "this is how to make babby"


[08-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Public can think they're guilty or not right away who cares, court can decide


[08-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[08-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Don't think I'm against rape victims


[08-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
I just take a moderate approach


[08-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Rape victims deserve to have justice


[08-Jan-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, that's never been the point, the point is that people are losing their jobs, being suspended or expelled from college, and being harassed and beaten up until they're forced to move out of their community BECAUSE OF PUBLIC OPINION


[08-Jan-19 08:19 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not saying I don't believe any accusation, I'm skeptical until I hear more


[08-Jan-19 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what do you want then


[08-Jan-19 08:19 PM] DevField#5162
actual proof


[08-Jan-19 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To gag order people talking about people accused of rape?


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
And due process


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
legal protections for people who are accused that only last until they're found guilty


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok we have that


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't stop people from believing a victim before a case dude


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
if they're guilty, all bets are off


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Clearly not if the accuser is immediately fucked over


[08-Jan-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Accused*


[08-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Due process should apply to the general public too


[08-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
ironically, this all can be at least somewhat blamed on neoliberalism due to "at will" employment


[08-Jan-19 08:21 PM] DevField#5162
Speaking of rape, have you seen the way female pedophiles are treated? They get a slap on the wrist and walk away. It's disgusting.


[08-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how that applies to private universities and colleges


[08-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Shouldn't be, "I heard you were accused of rape, you're fired"


[08-Jan-19 08:22 PM] DevField#5162
Like the ones that have sexual relations with their students


[08-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
there's people who can't even find jobs because they get their name googled and the first thing that pops up is "x person is accused of rape"


[08-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Mikey#7286
And then later "what's that, the accusations were false? Oh well, nothing I can do about it, it is what it is"


[08-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well then you can sue people


[08-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Did the college student successfully Sue and win?


[08-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
it's probably still ongoing


[08-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
If he doesn't win well then that means due process is pointless


[08-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
lmao https://nypost.com/2018/11/19/yale-sued-for-removing-depressed-student-to-avoid-negative-press/

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Yale sued for removing depressed student to avoid negative press
NEW HAVEN, Conn. — A Yale University graduate is suing the Ivy League school over allegations she was wrongly removed from campus after she sought counseling for depression as school officials…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/111918-yale-university-lawsuit.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[08-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
If he does win maybe it will deter people from being fucked over immediately


[08-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
yale is removing depressed students to avoid negative press over future suicides


[08-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
yale is a joke nowadays


[08-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2018/01/16/yale-settles-with-student-expelled-over-false-sex-assault-claim/

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Yale settles with student expelled over false sex assault claim
HARTFORD, Conn. — Yale University has settled a lawsuit by a former student who says he was wrongly and unfairly expelled over a false sexual assault allegation in 2012 — the school’s latest move a…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/011618_yale_sexual_assault.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[08-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
A federal judge in Hartford signed off on the settlement last week, according to court documents. Terms were undisclosed, but a Yale spokesman said the agreement did not include any payment to the former student or any change in the discipline.


[08-Jan-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until a guy is blackmailed into being raped by a girl who threatens him with a false rape accusation


[08-Jan-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
that's actually the direction we're currently heading atm socially


[08-Jan-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
when you give humans power, eventually someone will abuse it


[08-Jan-19 08:35 PM] Mikey#7286
Humans suck


[08-Jan-19 08:36 PM] Mikey#7286
We don't deserve to live on this beautiful planet


[08-Jan-19 08:36 PM] DevField#5162
I believe there may be a way out for us. Don't give up yet Mikey!


[08-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Look at this gorgeous planet, she's the most beautiful thing in the solar system

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[08-Jan-19 08:39 PM] DevField#5162
*it's the most beautiful


[08-Jan-19 08:39 PM] DevField#5162
:Upvote:


[08-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
I like to think of Earth as a she personally


[08-Jan-19 08:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't assume a planets gender.


[08-Jan-19 08:39 PM] DevField#5162
welp


[08-Jan-19 08:40 PM] DevField#5162
each to their own I guess


[08-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
earth is usually portrayed as female in mythology


[08-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
since the earth "gave birth" to everything


[08-Jan-19 08:44 PM] DevField#5162
and because it's beautiful, probably.


[08-Jan-19 08:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[08-Jan-19 08:52 PM] Mikey#7286
And "mother" Earth

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[08-Jan-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Pastor claimed that he went to hell and killed satan.
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[08-Jan-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[08-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wtf


[08-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you put a bit too much LSD in the holy water.


[08-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/manaforts-attorneys-failed-to-properly-redact-their-response-to-mueller-heres-what-they-say/

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Colin Kalmbacher
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Manafort’s Attorneys Failed to Redact, Exposed Lines Mentioning ...
Oops and/or uh oh?! Paul Manafort's attorneys failed to properly redact their latest court filing in response to special counsel Robert Mueller.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Paul-Manafort-via-Alex-Wong-Getty-Images-e1523024935304.jpg


[08-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think the Counsel will end this year


[08-Jan-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
end their investigation  or just plain end?


[08-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Either or


[08-Jan-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hoping for the former


[08-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm expecting like some impeachable offense proven for sure


[08-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it happening but removal failing and some SCOTUS case about presidential pardons


[08-Jan-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering trump's stance on "acting cabinet members" i woudl imagien afew


[08-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump does not know how to run the country at all


[08-Jan-19 09:18 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Jan-19 09:20 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[08-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Mikey#7286
That describes him well


[08-Jan-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s used to dealign with foreign clients as an intimidating but stupid business man who runs a gold plated tower, he cant talk to actuall world leaders to save his life


[08-Jan-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good tonight trump is doign a national broadcast to campaign for the wall again


[08-Jan-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"if i change the material int he wall maybe they'll give me my ransom"


[08-Jan-19 09:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can we bury remote C4 under the wall so when it's finished a giant hole can be blown in it?


[08-Jan-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes please


[08-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he fails to see that the money and the hostage taking is the problem not that the wall is made of steel or conrete


[08-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing else is getting done


[08-Jan-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by february government employees wills tart becoming homeless and thousands will starve because thye didnt get their monthly food allowance


[08-Jan-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those generous food delivery trucks  can onyl be so many places at once


[08-Jan-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
That Manafort thing is big


[08-Jan-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Collusion confirmed


[08-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really


[08-Jan-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/paul-manafort-shared-2016-polling-data-with-russian-employee-according-to-court-filing/2019/01/08/3f562ad8-12b0-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html


[08-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
the redacted shit they accidentally released actually proves what the mueller investigation was accusing manafort of


[08-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
you can't get much more retarded than this lol


[08-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
is it even legal to redact stuff to hide the truth like that?


[08-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
or was the redaction only for the publicly released documents, not what the investigation actually receives?


[08-Jan-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rules-against-mystery-corporation-from-country-a-fighting-subpoena-in-mueller-investigation/2019/01/08/a39b61ac-0d1a-11e9-84fc-d58c33d6c8c7_story.html


[08-Jan-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
The Supreme Court on Tuesday left in place a lower court order requiring an unnamed foreign-owned corporation to comply with a subpoena said to be part of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.


[08-Jan-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
The court dissolved a temporary stay that had been put in place by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. In a short order, it did not give a reason for the decision, nor did it note any dissents.


[08-Jan-19 11:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Canada: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/01/07/rcmp-indigenous-anti-pipeline-blockade-near-houston-british-columbia_a_23636576/

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RCMP Arrest 14 People At Indigenous Anti-Pipeline Blockade In B.C.
Members of the Gidimt'en clan of the Wet'suwet'en First Nation are protesting a pipeline project in northern B.C.
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[08-Jan-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests-boxer/french-ministers-aghast-at-support-for-boxer-who-fought-police-idUSKCN1P20ET

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French ministers aghast at support for boxer who fought police
A former French boxing champion who surrendered to police after he was filmed ra...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190108&t=2&i=1343328815&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF070AP


[08-Jan-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
His fists fight for liberty.


[08-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
a boxer fighting back against police brutality was arrested and a bunch of people donated over 100k euros to a fund for him


[08-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
but the french government got pissy and had the donation page removed


[08-Jan-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's like the french government actually wants to start a fucking civil war lol


[08-Jan-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46794480

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Outcry over fundraising for protest boxer
A fundraising page for a French ex-boxer filmed punching police is closed amid condemnation.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/122A0/production/_105100447_051506320-1.jpg


[08-Jan-19 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/08/683250815/civil-rights-award-rescinded-from-angela-davis-after-jewish-community-objections

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Civil Rights Award Rescinded From Angela Davis After Jewish Commun...
The Birmingham Civil Rights Institute planned to honor the activist at a February event. It now says her statements and public record do not "meet all of the criteria on which the award is based."
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[08-Jan-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
so basically, because she supports palestinian rights, she lost a civil rights award


[08-Jan-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/08/angela-davis-stunned-rescind-civil-rights-award

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Angela Davis 'stunned' by decision to rescind civil rights award
Activist decries attack on ‘spirit of the indivisibility of justice’ after move believed to be linked to her support for Palestinian BDS movement
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[08-Jan-19 11:46 PM] moonatik#3676
why do the powers that be get so overprotective of israel of all things?


[08-Jan-19 11:46 PM] moonatik#3676
maybe it's part of a long term plan to legitimize "DA JOOZ" and return to nazism, or something


[08-Jan-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/3Pzwp

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Ocasio-Cortez attacks fact-checkers for 'false equivalency,' 'bias...
archived 8 Jan 2019 16:15:02 UTC


[08-Jan-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
“For example, it looks like @PolitiFact has fact-checked Sarah Huckabee Sanders and myself the *same* amount of times: 6,” she said. “She’s been serving for 2 years. I’ve served 4 days. Why is she fact-checked so little? Is she adhering to some standard we don’t know about?”


[08-Jan-19 11:51 PM] moonatik#3676
politifact responded IIRC and AOC responded to that with https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1082376172007317506

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Thank you @PolitiFact! 💜 https://t.co/9K2JSFm1l9
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[08-Jan-19 11:51 PM] moonatik#3676
this tweet is missing a "Very cool!"


[08-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
I keep getting confused with the shortening of her name to "AOC", it makes me think of a video game for some reason


[08-Jan-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
lol


[08-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
like an item or a location or something in a video game


[08-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
maybe a questline


[08-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
>You should keep focusing on @AOC please - socialists have historically used miss-information and distortions of facts to institute policies that are very destructive and oppressive


[08-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
christ these people are so fucking toxic


[08-Jan-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Attack on Conservatism


[08-Jan-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://alfanl.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/screen-shot-2017-09-06-at-11-55-53.png

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[08-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
tfw liberalism tries to masquerade as centrism


[08-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
when liberalism and neoliberalism are strongly rooted in economic conservatism


[08-Jan-19 11:57 PM] moonatik#3676
horseshoe theory has some credibility until you start to think about it for more than a few minutes


[08-Jan-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Horse Shoe theory at all


[08-Jan-19 11:58 PM] moonatik#3676
and realise the whole left/right division is misleading and bogus


[08-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, i'm in the middle of watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFyBRhCQvw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFyBRhCQvw
Horseshoe Theory │█║▌ 𝚅𝙴𝚁𝚈 𝙸𝙼𝙿𝙾...
Centrism consistently equivocates the left with the far right. But, as an ideology, centrism has no answers, and it succeeds in sabotaging the left, the vacu...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ATFyBRhCQvw/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Jan-19 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
>And not the glorious FISH HOOK THEORY

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[08-Jan-19 11:59 PM] moonatik#3676
you're forgetting TRIDENT THEORY

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[08-Jan-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or galactic brain BRAAAAAAAP Theory.

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[08-Jan-19 11:59 PM] moonatik#3676
would be in better quality if the original tweet hadnt been deleted


[08-Jan-19 11:59 PM] moonatik#3676
Sad!


[09-Jan-19 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] moonatik#3676
shit i've been nazbol'd by nazbol gang


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
what's a nazbol anyway


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] moonatik#3676
national bolshevik


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Memes


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] moonatik#3676
the worst parts of nazism and communism basically


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] moonatik#3676
its almost entirely a meme ideology


[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Soviet Union theme, but the wordless version and clearly being played by an uncaring company for cheap


[09-Jan-19 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5fenjzeh7g

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RUSSIAN / USSR ANTHEM - SHITTYFLUTED
this has been requested a lot and i had to do it because it is epic, hope you have fun, cyka blyat brothers and sisters. follow the shit in other places if y...
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[09-Jan-19 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL3f_kneJzM&t=26

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TheLittleCT1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL3f_kneJzM&t=26
Bad Kazoo Covers #3: U.S.S.R./Russian National Anthem
As requested by some viewers, next kazoo cover will be 4/7/17
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[09-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
this one's even better


[09-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
I can't wait to see trump say or do something really stupid in his address that somehow makes things even worse for him public opinion-wise


[09-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

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United States GDP Growth Rate | 2019 | Data | Chart | Calendar | F...
The US economy advanced an annualized 3.4 percent on quarter in the third quarter of 2018, slightly below earlier estimates of a 3.5 percent growth, final figures showed. It follows a 4.2 percent expansion in the previous period which was the highest since the third quarter o...
https://tradingeconomics.com/charts/facebook.png?url=/united-states/gdp-growth


[09-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&v=201812211413a1&d1=20090101&d2=20191231

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https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&v=201812211413a1&d1=20090101&d2=20191231


[09-Jan-19 12:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
prepare for PLUNGE GANG


[09-Jan-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Look at all those gains not going to the workers


[09-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's interesting that the GDP still hasn't had a growth as big as Q2 2014 since trump became president


[09-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives flat out deny that the GDP or the stock market ever grew under obama


[09-Jan-19 12:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
stock market will likely recover a little, them plummet 2008 epic style in late 2019 or 2020


[09-Jan-19 12:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism gon' be BTFO'd


[09-Jan-19 12:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
t. every credible economist


[09-Jan-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
why hasnt it yet


[09-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't some sort of "plunge prevention team" assembled in order to try and stop the crash?


[09-Jan-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Shit takes time.


[09-Jan-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
but every time there's one assembled, the crash is inevitable and they're just stalling it for as long as possible so the rich people can save as much money as possible at the expense of like 95% of the population


[09-Jan-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/tsa-screeners-quit-government-shutdown-1087269

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TSA union: Some screeners have quit as shutdown stretches on
"Every day I'm getting calls from my members about their extreme hardships and need for a paycheck," said Hydrick Thomas, president of AFGE's TSA Council.
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[09-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
"Every day I'm getting calls from my members about their extreme hardships and need for a paycheck," said Hydrick Thomas, president of AFGE's TSA Council. "Some of them have already quit and many are considering quitting the federal workforce because of this shutdown."


[09-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
the longer it goes on, the higher the chance of people actually protesting becomes


[09-Jan-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
if it goes on long enough for food stamps to lose funding, there might actually be revolts


[09-Jan-19 12:26 AM] Honahue#0656
lets hope


[09-Jan-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
and the fucking idiot will use it as an excuse to declare martial law just so he can get his retarded fucking wall built


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
"AFGE, which last week filed a lawsuit against the government, said "work without pay is nothing short of inhumane.""


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
we have a word for it


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's called SLAVERY


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's spelled


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
S


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
L


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
A


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
V


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
E


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
R


[09-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
Y


[09-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
you can't spell SLAVERY without SLAV


[09-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTW6fZz-1E

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apartje.
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Cheeki Breeki Hardbass Anthem
This is where cheeki breeki lives New DL: https://mega.nz/#!EV1xBBAB!PB8EQQc4F9UUt64Id7TZFWcVGWgtzt0ieznUypS3hPI This is where cheeki breeki lives
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[09-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
ＣＨＥＥＫＩ　ＢＲＥＥＫＩ


[09-Jan-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/08/turkeys-erdogan-shuts-down-white-houses-bolton-on-syria.html

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Turkey's Erdogan shuts down White House's Bolton on Syria, says he...
"We cannot accept Bolton's messages given from Israel," the Turkish president says, adding that Bolton made a "serious mistake."
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[09-Jan-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan issued a blunt put-down Tuesday against White House national security advisor John Bolton over his pledges to ensure Turkish nonaggression against Kurds who fought against the Islamic State in Syria.


[09-Jan-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/08/683177946/erdogan-cancels-meeting-with-bolton-as-u-s-seeks-to-reassure-allies-on-syria

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Erdogan Cancels Meeting With Bolton, As U.S. Seeks To Reassure All...
The meeting was canceled moments before it was to begin, reflecting Turkish anger over U.S. insistence that a Kurdish militia fighting in Syria be protected after American troops withdraw.
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[09-Jan-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2019/01/08/egypt-banned-the-sale-of-yellow-vests-are-the-french-protests-spreading/


[09-Jan-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
Wearing high-intensity yellow vests, protesters demonstrated for weeks in Paris and other French cities against a planned fuel tax increase and other economic issues. Protesters in Iraq, Bulgaria, Israel, Taiwan and other countries recently took to the streets in yellow vests as well. Fearing similar protests the Egyptian government in December banned the sale of yellow vests.


[09-Jan-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-far-right-is-trying-to-co-opt-the-yellow-vests

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The Far Right Is Trying to Co-opt the Yellow Vests
The French protests have participants on the left and right, but splinter movements abroad draw more xenophobes and anti-government conspiracy theorists.
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[09-Jan-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yeah, they think it's an anti-immigrant thing when immigrationn has consistently ranked the lowest issue on the Yellow Vests concerns


[09-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's interesting that there's protests springing up globally set off by the ones in france


[09-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://i.imgur.com/tcSiAQm.jpg

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[09-Jan-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/glevyd9y07921.jpg

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[09-Jan-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-fake-nude-debunked-foot-fetishists-1282672

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Fake nude photo of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez debunked by foot fetishist
After analyzing the feet, fetishists said the picture was not of Ocasio-Cortez.
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[09-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[09-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, Trump's on TV bullshitting about how the southern border is basically a warzone and nobody can deal with it


[09-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[09-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
he's doing the worst possible thing he can for his position


[09-Jan-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I'm starting to wonder if he's actually hoping for people to start revolting so he has a valid excuse to call for and enact martial law


[09-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
martial law will allow him to both build his retarded wall and seize all the private land in texas which are on the border


[09-Jan-19 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump:"thousands of terrorist at the border" Border agents: "6"


[09-Jan-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"look at texas! It's practically a mini syria thanks to the mexican invasion"


[09-Jan-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no wait practically is too big a word for trump


[09-Jan-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
"look at texas! It's a mini syria thanks to the mexican invasion"


[09-Jan-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
ftfy


[09-Jan-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
he only speaks in absolutes


[09-Jan-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there we go


[09-Jan-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is texas bigger or smaller thna syria?


[09-Jan-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s hard to tell with american states soemtimes


[09-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
texas is muuch bigger


[09-Jan-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the size of texas is disturbing


[09-Jan-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://comicsagogo.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/map-of-united-states-compared-to-syria.png

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[09-Jan-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
the size of alaska is horrifying


[09-Jan-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.echoak.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Alaska-Texas-01.png

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[09-Jan-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[09-Jan-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://moving.selfstorage.com/how-big-is-alaska/

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How Big is Alaska?
Everyone knows that Alaska is massive. At 663,300 square miles, Alaska is by far the largest state in the United States, nearly two and a half times as large as Texas. But when you look at most two dimensional maps, Alaska actually looks much larger than that. In the case of ...
https://moving.selfstorage.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/alaska-header.png


[09-Jan-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/4atB5x8.png

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Alaska vs. Western Europe
https://i.imgur.com/4atB5x8.png


[09-Jan-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is way too big...


[09-Jan-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457

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[09-Jan-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lltm2V7_Hgg we're going to pay for the wall in illegal drugs?

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President Trump delivered a prime-time address from the Oval Office in the midst of an ongoing government shutdown and controversy over funding for his borde...
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[09-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The wall would very quickly pay for itself. The cost of illegal drugs exceeds 500 billion dollars a year. Vastly more than the 5.7 billion dollars we have requested from Congress." -- Trump


[09-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump what the fuck man


[09-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
no, the idea is that if you fund a $5.7 billion dollar wall, you'll save $500 billion in the cost of "illegal drugs"


[09-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
the whole thing is retarded math


[09-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
most of the drugs come in by plane and boat


[09-Jan-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
he has a very large rectum


[09-Jan-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah... that makes no sense considerign we have american pharmacuetical companies peddling opium anyway it wouldnt stop jakc shit


[09-Jan-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
needs somewhere to store all those "facts"


[09-Jan-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also his wording makes it soudn liek he wants to sell illegal drugs like girl scout cookiews to pay for the wall


[09-Jan-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
I'm almost entirely convinced that he wants society to start collapsing enough for him to justify martial law


[09-Jan-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
that's his goal to become dictator


[09-Jan-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d buy it...


[09-Jan-19 03:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Decriminalize drugs, use savings to build wall


[09-Jan-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[09-Jan-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would martial law override presidential term limit?


[09-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
no


[09-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
martial law in the US is actually pretty limited


[09-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
but it would give the president enough power to unilaterally drop a wall on the border


[09-Jan-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/X1ass08.gifv

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True Love
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[09-Jan-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YX01exE

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Tax season is coming up - and roughly half the US does not fundamentally understand our tax system
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[09-Jan-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/hT0JtwN.png

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[09-Jan-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/9UFTKtE.jpg

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[09-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3JS-kvhCU

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cachonnt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3JS-kvhCU
Twitch Chat Yugioh Kaiba makes $100,000,000 in one day
BUSINESS SKILLS Turn 10 million into 100 million EASY. Just follow what this child genius does. Kaiba's past from Twitch Yugioh / Yu-gi-oh marathon Oct. 23 -...
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[09-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
CAPITALISM


[09-Jan-19 06:22 AM] illumnious#7938
HOW?!


[09-Jan-19 06:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism.


[09-Jan-19 06:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*A totally rational enterprise.*


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Moxy#6969
u fet @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fet?


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Moxy#6969
mean fat


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Moxy#6969
u fat


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Moxy#6969
>:3


[09-Jan-19 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[09-Jan-19 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, even if i am fat, then i have been a bit fat for a long time


[09-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Moxy#6969
ha u fet :3


[09-Jan-19 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is that a political argument?


[09-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Moxy#6969
no i'm just bored


[09-Jan-19 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, this is the politits channel


[09-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Moxy#6969
why r we in here


[09-Jan-19 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then go to shitposting


[09-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Yuri#4154
Why are we here?


[09-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Yuri#4154
Just to suffer?


[09-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Konami should put that cutscene on their pachinko machines when you lose


[09-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though IIRC Japan recently legalized real gambling, I'm sure the Yakuza love that


[09-Jan-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legality leads to regulation which cuts into profits for gangs


[09-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yakuza really kinda operates openly


[09-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adelsteinjake/2017/10/30/japans-yakuza-wont-be-celebrating-halloween-this-year/#631e749fdf13

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Japan's Yakuza Won't Be Celebrating Halloween This Year
There will be some sad children in Kobe this Halloween. Japan's largest organized crime group will not be holding its annual Halloween Party for the neighborhood tykes this years.
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[09-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I'm just reminded of a shitty phone game I played where you were the Mexican president and had to solve the drug war


[09-Jan-19 07:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Yakuza are idd


[09-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can win in one move, clicking "legalize everything"


[09-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[09-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the drug cartels realize murder is legal, begin applying for licenses


[09-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
>they are all stukk at the Mexican DMV for 20 hours in a row, many simply giv up


[09-Jan-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
>rapists end up waiting for 6 months on some bureaucrat to evaluate whether Becky really is "asking for it"


[09-Jan-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/house-democrats-unveil-universal-background-check-bill-anniversary/story?id=60210896


[09-Jan-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Jan-19 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
fuck, why'd she protect her tweets wtf


[09-Jan-19 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
I wanted to see the replies


[09-Jan-19 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318129883421081600/532563920993648640/jYqhpIi_fAw.jpg

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[09-Jan-19 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Was this post made by John C. Calhoun or something


[09-Jan-19 03:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw Slouping is a pony smut artist


[09-Jan-19 03:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318129883421081600/532567909600591912/sloutumbl.png

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[09-Jan-19 03:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spread this


[09-Jan-19 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/magazine/cities-fine-poor-jail.html

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By MATTHEW SHAER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/magazine/cities-fine-poor-jail.html
How Cities Make Money by Fining the Poor
In many parts of America, like Corinth, Miss., judges are locking up defendants who can’t pay — sometimes for months at a time.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/13/magazine/13mag-Debtor-image1/13mag-Debtor-image1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Jan-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Jan-19 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-compares-immigrants-to-animals-border-wall-to-zoo-fence-2019-1

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Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagra...
Trump Jr. has since deleted the Instagram post, which said, "You know why you can enjoy a day at the zoo? Because walls work."
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c361ae4bd77303b1d505867-2732-1366.jpg


[09-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/424549-major-policy-shift-in-280-characters-trump-tweets-no-more-fema


[09-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083022011574747137

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083022011574747137
Billions of dollars are sent to the State of California for Forest fires that, with proper Forest Management, would never happen. Unless they get their act together, which is unlikely, I have ordered FEMA to send no more money. It is a disgraceful situation in lives & mone...
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[09-Jan-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[09-Jan-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"they caNT stop the fires with their current funding, so i;m going to take the money and fund the fires instead so that thye burn twice as fast"


[09-Jan-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*undeserved smug face intensifies*


[09-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's his whole strategy


[09-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worse things are, the more conservative people get


[09-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the fear makes people hateful and basic


[09-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes them more likely to vote for Trump.


[09-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424537-trump-jr-cites-zoo-enclosures-in-push-for-border-wall

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Trump Jr. cites zoo enclosures in push for border wall
Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday cited the effectiveness of zoo enclosures in pushing for his father's proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpjrdonald_040218gn3_lead.jpg


[09-Jan-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i alreayd posted that story with a different source


[09-Jan-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yep


[09-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t doubt that if it were legal, trump woudl be executing his fired staff isntead of jsut firing them


[09-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/nyregion/bill-de-blasio-paid-vacation-nyc.html

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By J. DAVID GOODMAN and JEFFERY C. MAYS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/nyregion/bill-de-blasio-paid-vacation-nyc.html
Paid Vacation to Be Required for Private Sector Workers, Mayor Says
The move could cover 500,000 New Yorkers and came a day after Mayor de Blasio announced a health care plan that seemed similarly aimed at a national stage.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/10/nyregion/10mayor/10mayor-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Jan-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
Mayor Bill de Blasio pledged on Wednesday to make New York the first city in the nation to require private employers to provide at least two weeks of paid vacation to all employees.


[09-Jan-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope he succeeds


[09-Jan-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
it'll succeed up until amazon sends someone to blackmail the city council


[09-Jan-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jeff bezos can fuck himself in the urethra with a heated iron rod


[09-Jan-19 09:53 PM] Evil Emperor Proteus#7383
Hey as the US Government shut down yet?


[09-Jan-19 09:53 PM] Evil Emperor Proteus#7383
Here is an appropriate picture.

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[09-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
it was shut down 2 and a half weeks ago


[09-Jan-19 09:55 PM] Evil Emperor Proteus#7383
Nah I mean for reals, not memes.


[09-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States#December_2018%E2%80%93January_2019

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Government shutdowns in the United States
In United States politics, a government shutdown occurs when Congress fails to pass sufficient appropriation bills or continuing resolutions to fund federal government operations and agencies, or the President refuses to sign into law such bills or resolutions. In such cases,...


[09-Jan-19 10:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If the wall is like a zoo enclosure which side are the animals on?

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[09-Jan-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely ourside but it;s the animals who claim the immigrants are animals


[09-Jan-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d4e444381057439d98b112f419348e5e

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US orders refuges to staff for hunters despite shutdown
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is directing dozens of wildlife refuges to return staffers to work to make sure hunters and others have access despite the government shutdown, according to an email obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press. The partial...
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[09-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46805269

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Fresh Brexit setback for May in MPs' vote
MPs vote to force the PM to announce new Brexit plans within three days if her deal fails in the Commons.
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[09-Jan-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Looking more and more like hard brexit


[09-Jan-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
In fact maybe the global economic crash will come march


[09-Jan-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the rate the countries are runnig t hemselves, i wouldnt be shocked


[09-Jan-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually i;m more surprised we havent hit global economic crahs yet


[09-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Torr#5078
https://twitter.com/Evropean_Man/status/1082845468072251393

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>Let the child transition https://t.co/OwGA09rtew
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[09-Jan-19 11:17 PM] moonatik#3676
"if i cherry pick enough examples with no context or anything people will have to believe me"


[09-Jan-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr  Transphobes should just get the bullet and then the guilllotine tbh


[09-Jan-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender dysphoria or noncomformity is a condition that frequently rises to expression very early


[09-Jan-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even worse a thing is, the "don't let kids transition" fallacy could be used to shield transphobic, repressive parents from criticism


[09-Jan-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only concern i really have is have they talked a proffessional about this before deciding "yep, this is what i want forever" If they want to transition then cool, just make thme aware of what they;re gettign into and the possible risks and thing sliek that


[09-Jan-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make sure they;re informed basically


[09-Jan-19 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait is this Tor guy a literal fascist


[09-Jan-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont evne know


[09-Jan-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also parents who try to raise their kids as trans when they arent are assholes


[09-Jan-19 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and that's the point


[09-Jan-19 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody's applauding what these parents are supposedly doing


[09-Jan-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my advice is have the child speak to a counciller, therapist,psychiatrist (whoever you speak to for these things) for like a year and if after all that the child feels good with it then by all means start the medical process.


[09-Jan-19 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-walks-out-shutdown-meeting-1.4972128

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Trump walks out of talks with top Democrats | CBC News
Talks to try to end an 18-day long partial U.S. government shutdown came to an abrupt end on Wednesday afternoon after President Donald Trump walked out of a meeting with congressional Democrat leaders at the White House.
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[09-Jan-19 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Our great businessman negotiator, everyone


[09-Jan-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[10-Jan-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/politics/democrats-block-senate-bills-over-shutdown/index.html

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Democratic senators block Middle East bill over shutdown
Senate Democrats blocked action on a bill unrelated to the ongoing government shutdown Tuesday, in protest of President Donald Trump's demands to fund a controversial border wall with Mexico in exchange for reopening the agencies.
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[10-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/9/18172826/bds-law-israel-boycott-states-explained

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The controversy over laws punishing Israel boycotts, explained
A bill encouraging a crackdown on the BDS movement just failed in the Senate.
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[10-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
Most of the debate centered on Title 4 of the bill, a provision that would give states a legal blessing to punish companies that choose not to do business with Israel or Israeli-owned enterprises, a key demand of the pro-Palestinian Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement.


[10-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
Twenty-six states have adopted laws that punish companies that choose to boycott Israel. Defenders of the law see them as necessary to protect an ally from hostile activists, while critics argue that the laws are unconstitutional infringements on free speech. So far, the only two federal courts to consider such bills have sided with the critics; Title 4 is designed to provide more legal cover for state BDS laws in future hearings.


[10-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
>26 states are infringing on the first amendment of the US constitution


[10-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
christ this country is retarded


[10-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
the first amendment is literally the only thing that the US has on european countries


[10-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's the only real benefit of living in the US


[10-Jan-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we sure as hell dont have much else int he way pf benefits


[10-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/rudy-giuliani-rumored-to-be-bracing-for-horrific-report-from-robert-mueller/

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Rudy Giuliani Rumored to Be Bracing for ‘Horrific’ Report from...
The rumor mill is humming along on Tuesday, as issues involving President Donald Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani and Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. have bubbled to the surface.
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[10-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Giuliani is upset and Streisanding it


[10-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Lf1GcG5M4

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[10-Jan-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hes-a-gut-politician-trumps-go-to-negotiating-tactics-not-working-in-shutdown-standoff/2019/01/09/c7bb5ff2-142b-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html


[10-Jan-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
I think he's used to negotiating from a place of power


[10-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
he is not in any position powerful enough to bully the house into a deal they don't want


[10-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s trying to use his cabinet+ himself liek a corporate board of directors, but that power dynamic isn't really present in the relationship between a president and the congress/senate


[10-Jan-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
how much were you paid to delete those lines


[10-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted to reword thme better


[10-Jan-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
Though Trump plans to visit a Border Patrol station in McAllen, Tex., on Thursday, he revealed his antipathy about the photo op, confiding to television news correspondents in a private lunch this week that he was going only because aides insisted he do so, according to the New York Times.


[10-Jan-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
so he wanted to play politician, but doesn't actually want to do anything that politicans have to do


[10-Jan-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
which is exactly what he was like in college


[10-Jan-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
he was incredibly lazy getting his degree and barely passed


[10-Jan-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Mitch mcconel is liekly the onyl oen who see;s trump's cabinet and trump as a CEO and Corporate board because he's likely beign paid off and it get;s him a faster lane to more power and control. well that or trump is blackmailign him hard


[10-Jan-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is hardly even a business man, if it werent for money he would likely be living in a trialer sellign used cars


[10-Jan-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he made his living doing the back door deeds of dubious company, real estate, and  foreign tycoons buying up rooms in his hotel so they could host private meetings behind closed doors


[10-Jan-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and a big ol' bunk charity orginization


[10-Jan-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that both paid for his gold plated toilet and worked as a middle man to move funds between other rich people


[10-Jan-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants the power with none of the responsibility


[10-Jan-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and right now his corrupt ass lawyer is having a panic attakc because he's never dealt with this bad a defense case


[10-Jan-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
man, I want to know what his father would think of this


[10-Jan-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
his father died in 1999


[10-Jan-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his father woudl have likely warned agaisnt becomign a politician and tutored him int he art of lobbying isntead


[10-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry#Controversy

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Maryanne Trump Barry
Maryanne Trump Barry (born April 5, 1937) is an American attorney and an inactive Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. She is an older sister of Donald Trump, the 45th and current president of the United States.
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[10-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
wow


[10-Jan-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
trump's sister is currently being investigated for making a bunch of rulings that personally benefited her, her father, and their family in general


[10-Jan-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s one thing to be a corporate influence of politics and another entirely to actually be a politician


[10-Jan-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
this might actually be what has giuliani so panicked


[10-Jan-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;'s possible


[10-Jan-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt even know trump had a sister


[10-Jan-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't know it either


[10-Jan-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
I was looking up their father


[10-Jan-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
she even kinda looks like a female version of trump lol


[10-Jan-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumps grandfather is was exile of germany who was exiled for draft dodging


[10-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boy that apple sure didnt fall far


[10-Jan-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that his father personally tutored them on how to break the law and not get caught, but trump was so bad at it that his father gave up on him


[10-Jan-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
his sister likely only got caught because trump became president


[10-Jan-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump built half his empire on eminent domain as well which is probably why he thinks it will save him int his wall fiasco


[10-Jan-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but eminent domain only worked for him as a business man because he was able to bribe his way through courts


[10-Jan-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit doesnt work so well when the only courts that you cna appela to are the SCOTUS, and the 2 houses


[10-Jan-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eminent domainfor him mostly worked in that he paid the city to claim a poor people neighborhood as inhospitable, bulldoze it, and thne sell trump the land


[10-Jan-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only times he failed were when the eminent domain thugs were denied their sales and brought to court and evne then those fights lasted years


[10-Jan-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump becoming president was liely the worst thing that coudl have happened to him and his family, despite his mind set that if he became president he could rewrite the laws however he saw fit which woudl let him do business with russia liek he wanted to


[10-Jan-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's trying to become a dictator with absolute power


[10-Jan-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/politics/immigration-deal-wall-fight-republican-senators/index.html

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Facing gridlock, GOP senators seek big immigration deal to end shu...
Staring at a prolonged government shutdown, Republican senators are privately planning to court Democratic senators on an immigration deal that would give President Donald Trump money for his border wall and include several measures long-sought by Democrats, according to sour...
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[10-Jan-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr bribe democrats with extending stuff trump wants to get rid of in order to secure border wall funding


[10-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
that won't work because the GOP can't realistically guarantee that trump will keep any deal made that isn't "this is here to stay, you can't touch it ever without congressional permission"


[10-Jan-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and there's no guarantee that trump wont send it back again and demand that the new deals be removed but the border wall kept


[10-Jan-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thus lengthening this shutdown further while trump throws a bigger tantrum


[10-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-edu-lausd-teachers-strike-20190109-story.html

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L.A. teachers union postpones strike until Monday
Union leaders were concerned over whether they'd given the L.A. school district a required 10-day notice that they were terminating their labor agreement.
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[10-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
US "strikers" are so wimpy lol


[10-Jan-19 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need some proper strikes


[10-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
I guess people have been beaten down with the national guard so much that they aren't willing to fight for better conditions anymore


[10-Jan-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jan-19 04:34 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so how is your tantrums doing


[10-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know you guys are making my generation laughing at you right


[10-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a liberal tears taste soo good


[10-Jan-19 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656

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[10-Jan-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
le liberal tears meemee


[10-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal, aren't you like 20 and still living with your parents lol


[10-Jan-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
you claimed that you're only conservative because your parents would disown you if you weren't


[10-Jan-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/american-university-teaching-faculty-to-grade-writing-without-judging-its-quality-to-end-subconscious-racism-55466/

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American University teaching faculty to grade writing without ‘j...
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[10-Jan-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[10-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://edspace.american.edu/ariwa/

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Home


[10-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
some dude is apparently advocating for not grading written assignments based on quality of writing, but based on how much work was put into the writing, even if that work is bad


[10-Jan-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/evangelical-group-wants-gays-removed-anti-lynching-bill-n956831

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Evangelical group wants gays removed from anti-lynching bill
Liberty Counsel Chairman Mat Staver opposes including the words "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" in a federal anti-lynching bill.
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[10-Jan-19 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Staver: "oh hey a bill that says you can't do something that's already illegal"
>reads part about not being allowed to perform already illegal thing to the gheys
Staver: "wtf i can't kill faggots this is fucking bullshit"


[10-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawmaker-ditch-contributions-man-who-hosted-overdose-victims-n956991

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Congressman to ditch cash donations from man who hosted overdose v...
"I am deeply disturbed by the latest revelations of a second death by overdose," said Rep. Ted Lieu, D-Calif.
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[10-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
"He had long considered the devoutly religious – and in truth anyone that was wedded too tightly to their beliefs, whatever those beliefs may be – to be functionally insane; inflexible in their thinking, prone to making irrational decisions, resorting to twisted, circuitous reasoning to justify their ideological position and willing to go to dangerously extreme lengths to resolve the inevitable cognitive dissonance."


[10-Jan-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
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Fear of animals
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[10-Jan-19 08:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't you just tell your friends you're getting indicted


[10-Jan-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
he not only said that, but deleted the instagram post like the coward he is


[10-Jan-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Aic0D9i.png

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[10-Jan-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, did you know/hear about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry#Controversy

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Maryanne Trump Barry
Maryanne Trump Barry (born April 5, 1937) is an American attorney and an inactive Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. She is an older sister of Donald Trump, the 45th and current president of the United States.
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[10-Jan-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
he has a sister who's a judge that's currently being investigated for making a bunch of rulings that personally benefited her, her father, and their family in general


[10-Jan-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
and I get the feeling that she only got caught because her brother became president


[10-Jan-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that his father personally tutored them on how to break the law and not get caught, but trump was so bad at it that his father gave up on him


[10-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
ah


[10-Jan-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
and here we see a neoliberal capitalist in its natural state <https://imgur.com/gallery/CCl1ldF/comment/1561662801>


[10-Jan-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
"a person making only 10% of the actual value of their work is a GOOD DEAL GUIZE"


[10-Jan-19 10:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can add gays to the pro lynching bill if we can add evangelicals tot he pro lynching bill


[10-Jan-19 10:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be a lynchign war, have fun with that


[10-Jan-19 11:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/01/college-student-hunger/579877/

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Millions of College Students Are Going Hungry
A new government report highlights just how pervasive the problem is.
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[10-Jan-19 11:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jan-19 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/09/voted-down-tuesday-night-mcconnell-raises-alarm-forcing-second-vote-unconstitutional

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Voted Down on Tuesday Night, McConnell Raises Alarm by Forcing Sec...
"When was the last time the Senate voted twice in less than 24 hours to consider the same bill? They're doing it right now on S.1, a bill to authorize $38 billion in weapons for Israel and encourage states to deny contracts to people who support boycotts for Palestinian rights."
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[10-Jan-19 11:44 AM] ononim#8141
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[10-Jan-19 11:46 AM] Electron#4561
Please, no.


[10-Jan-19 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-maryland-lawsuit-infections-idUSKCN1OY1N3

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Johns Hopkins, Bristol-Myers must face $1 billion syphilis...
A federal judge in Maryland said The Johns Hopkins University, Bristol-Myers Squ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190104&t=2&i=1342126750&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0310D


[10-Jan-19 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A federal judge in Maryland said The Johns Hopkins University, Bristol-Myers Squibb Co (BMY.N) and the Rockefeller Foundation must face a $1 billion lawsuit over their roles in a 1940s U.S. government experiment that infected hundreds of Guatemalans with syphilis.


[10-Jan-19 02:44 PM] byte[]#2610
@ononim you lost me


[10-Jan-19 02:48 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/1083140191362048000?s=20

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What the fresh hell. This is REAL. Filmed in 1958- about a conman who grifts a small town of suckers into building a wall. History not subtle enough for you? GUESS THE GRIFTER'S NAME 
(And watch until the end) https://t.co/6FA3p6KC00
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[10-Jan-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://nypost.com/2016/07/21/male-escorts-are-making-crazy-money-at-the-rnc/

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Male escorts are making crazy money at the RNC
It’s been a great week for gay escorts in Cleveland. Male prostitutes contacted by The Post said business is booming and Republican National Convention attendees — most of them married — are …
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[10-Jan-19 05:52 PM] ononim#8141
I see Yakalahapolis fell really hard


[10-Jan-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna955946

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The 'doomsday' scenario: Here's what happens if the shutdown drags on
Economists warn that a catastrophe is in the making if the partial government closure continues for weeks or months.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2019_02/2710231/190109-donald-trump-se-436p_e3b479e5f4fc8050001ef329031b1d11.jpg


[10-Jan-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
38 million low-income Americans lose food stamps
6 million face an uncertain timetable for collecting tax refunds
2 million without rental assistance and facing possible eviction
800,000 paycheck-less federal employees plunged into dire financial straits
Shuttered parks and museums while overstressed airports cause tourism to tank
Federal court system slows to a crawl
Disaster relief money doesn't get to storm-ravaged areas
Lapsed FDA and EPA inspections lead to dangerous outbreaks
Private companies looking to go public are stuck in limbo
Stock market plummets


[10-Jan-19 07:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump doesn't realize the damage he's doing


[10-Jan-19 07:54 PM] Mikey#7286
He's an idiot


[10-Jan-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Not to mention illegal immigration is not as serious as he thinks


[10-Jan-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl personally bill trumps companies for this damage


[10-Jan-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if anyoen wanted to pass a stupid bill with trump's money in it, there's no guaruntee mitch mcconel woudl sign off on it since he seems happy as rain to have this shut down


[10-Jan-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/424730-mcconnell-blocks-house-bills-to-reopen-government

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McConnell blocks House bills to reopen government
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Thursday blocked two House-passed funding bills that would reopen the federal government.
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[10-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
>billing and not killing with a machine gun


[10-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[10-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/donald-trump-paul-manafort-polling-data-russian/2537844002/

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President Donald Trump denies knowing about Paul Manafort sharing ...
President Donald Trump denied Thursday knowing that former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, shared polling data with a Russian during 2016 campaign
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[10-Jan-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if we shoot him with the mahcine gun isntantly then what are we goign to threaten him with if he doesnt pay his bill?


[10-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/10/napolitano_on_collusion_mueller_can_show_trump_campaign_had_a_connection_to_russian_intelligence.html

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Napolitano on Collusion: Mueller Can Show Trump Campaign "Had A Co...
FOX News host Shep Smith talks to network legal correspondent Judge Andrew Napolitano about Paul Manafort sharing polling data with a person who is believed to "source for Russian intelligence." Napolitano said, "if this is collusion, "though collusion isn't a crime, this wou...
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[10-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Goalposts moving a lot


[10-Jan-19 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
>all this


[10-Jan-19 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
>yanks continue to licc the boot


[10-Jan-19 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
Astonishing


[10-Jan-19 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
I thought I never see people as complacent as post soviet russians


[10-Jan-19 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
All this because Trump wants a wall. Dems will be blamed for not allowing a wall.


[10-Jan-19 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/aeh3uu/trump_giving_some_ironic_motivation/?utm_source=reddit-android

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r/facepalm - Trump giving some ironic motivation
51,627 votes and 1,160 comments so far on Reddit
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[10-Jan-19 09:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[10-Jan-19 09:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[10-Jan-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this current?


[10-Jan-19 09:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Yes.


[10-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he jsut tried to bullshit himself out of the campaign promise of mexico paying for the wall?


[10-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can whoever is behind that camera please break his nose?


[10-Jan-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please someone take one for the team


[10-Jan-19 09:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He went on and said that mexico was paying for the wall by trading with the US and Canada.  US is paying for the wall using the money they get from Mexico from the things traded to Mexico for money.


[10-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then mexoci isnt paying for the wall


[10-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is


[10-Jan-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the dumbest logic is that "trump wants to build the wall to protect america" when the logic stands that he;s willign to kill the country to build a protective sheild for the country he's willing to kill to obtain thw sheild


[10-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Stephen Hawking said this and it applies to Trump


[10-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/4lwFK1ImzcA

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josh116pep
https://youtu.be/4lwFK1ImzcA
"People Who boast about their IQ are losers"
Stephen Hawking
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4lwFK1ImzcA/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump

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r/TrumpCriticizesTrump
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[10-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that this exists


[10-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/comments/aduo3v/mitchwa_realdonaldtrump_what_a_great_night_for/


[10-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
"I almost never get shocked anymore, but I'm truly stunned there's one this specific."


[10-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/529962495612837890

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/529962495612837890
"@Mitchwa: @realDonaldTrump What a great night for the good guys. I'm worried about Obama using executive power to pass immigration law"
Retweets
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[10-Jan-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the irony


[10-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/michael-cohen-trumps-former-lawyer-testify-before-congress/2539820002/

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Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to testify before Congress in Fe...
Michael Cohen, the longtime lawyer of President Donald Trump will testify before the House Oversight Committee
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/13/USAT/89fb4f0b-1832-4ed9-99b9-543086f8fa7a-USP_News-_Michael_Cohen_Sentencing.jpg?crop=2949,1659,x383,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[10-Jan-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dis gon b good


[10-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 assassinated


[10-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[10-Jan-19 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dunno which channel is appropriate for this


[10-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
#memes-and-shitposts


[10-Jan-19 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mkay


[10-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/458uKs5.jpg

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Prescient
https://i.imgur.com/458uKs5.jpg


[10-Jan-19 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah sure lol


[10-Jan-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/0aSme5F

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Don't be fucking evil, Google.
https://i.imgur.com/5Y8shRMh.jpg


[10-Jan-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh please they repealed that rule the minute google+ became a thing


[10-Jan-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
>FDA is shut down


[10-Jan-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
THE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS


[10-Jan-19 11:06 PM] ononim#8141
**Donald Trump announces Jungle 2**


[10-Jan-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah shit hits the fan if it continues past saturday, not that shit hasnt alreayd hit the fan


[10-Jan-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to guess that it'll continue past saturday


[10-Jan-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
things look grim


[10-Jan-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[10-Jan-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm sure soemhow republicans will try to pass a kill switch to social security  durignt his as well evne if it doesnt pass


[10-Jan-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell thye might evne try to throw it in with the wall


[10-Jan-19 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is basically holding the US populace hostage for the wall now


[10-Jan-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[10-Jan-19 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The DNC is gonna drag it on, though, i think. It's a golden opportunity to make Trump unpopular.


[10-Jan-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
each shut down gets worse and worse


[10-Jan-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the worst oenj yet


[10-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
it's obvious that the US population is too numb and lazy to do anything on its own anymore


[10-Jan-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're runnign on fatigue at this point


[10-Jan-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the american population is too busy fighting the work force to afford food and a house


[10-Jan-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
homeless shelters have become more dangerous and over crwoded as more people just cant find work and end up lising their houses


[10-Jan-19 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
college students are just trying to get a means to a job that doesnt go anywhere


[10-Jan-19 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd call it less lazy, and mroe jsut numb and exhausted


[10-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans can't hold out forever on their BS


[10-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They know they'll be responsible for the worst economic crash since the 20s if they make this go on months.


[10-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also know making it go on effectively means canceling the Commercial Crew Program


[10-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting SpaceX *and* Boieng in the bakk is something that would look really, really bad.


[10-Jan-19 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
lol, boeing owns congress


[10-Jan-19 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is so bizarre. I expected ruthless and cold pro-rich people efficiency out of capitalist regimes, but so far Trump's presidency has been a massive slow motion shot in the foot


[10-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
that's what hillary would've done


[10-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
she's the cold ruthless pro-rich person


[10-Jan-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump isnt a pro-rich capitalist regiem though, he;s a pro trump trum[pian regime who doesnl;t knwo how the fuck a government works


[10-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
trump's just a rich idiot that was too stupid to realize that all his "success" was due to his father saving his ass


[10-Jan-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he made promises he couldn't keep and isntead of saving face and admittign his plan didnt work, he throws toys liek a petulant child and demands everyone else do his promises for him instead


[10-Jan-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's like making paris hilton president except she'd have had a heart attack and a mental breka down by now


[10-Jan-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[10-Jan-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>as if Trump isn't already having a mental breakdown


[10-Jan-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeha but he hasnt had the heart attack


[10-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahahaha


[10-Jan-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yet


[10-Jan-19 11:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Give it time


[10-Jan-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hotel tycoons do not make good politicians


[10-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Mikey#7286
And failed casino owners


[10-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Mikey#7286
University owners


[10-Jan-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
glenn beck in general


[11-Jan-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can we get a uhhh- strike action larger than most countries? https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/online-pictures-largest-strike-history-happening-india-right-now?fbclid=IwAR2KA8KKT5a1UAj7waEd17wphVTEU8KdmARYzFQXFhEtrVyR30sR1D_sc_c

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The largest strike in history is happening in India right now
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/sites/default/files/AP_19008375688229.jpg


[11-Jan-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
TWO HUNDRED MILLION ON THE MARCH


[11-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Arvid#8335
I want this shutdown to ruin Trumps chances of getting reelected


[11-Jan-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want this shutdown to start Paris Commune 2: Washington DC edition.


[11-Jan-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
But that may not be possible or really all that mature.


[11-Jan-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want this shut down and his presidency to ruin any future his corporation has forever


[11-Jan-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
But let's still just dream for the memes of handing out Communard outfits to every federal employee and giving them the rifles for the job.


[11-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Arvid#8335
Anarcho-America yay


[11-Jan-19 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Le Commune de Fédéral-Ville


[11-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
the CIA spent so much time uprooting democratically elected governments lefter than center in the past 7 decades that I highly doubt it'll ever let even the slightest whiff of leftism to gain any meaningful traction in the US


[11-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Arvid#8335
Social democratic ideas are actually gaining some popularity as of late.


[11-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Arvid#8335
With Bernie Sanders and Cortez


[11-Jan-19 01:13 AM] Arvid#8335
SOCDEM GANG 🌹


[11-Jan-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
social democracy is becoming popular but will it be able to stand up to the wall that is the 2 party status quo?


[11-Jan-19 01:39 AM] Arvid#8335
They'll have to if they want to sustain a liberal democracy I think.


[11-Jan-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856

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Steel prototype for border wall cut through with saw, photo shows
A photo shows that the steel columns were breached with a common industrial tool.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2710971/190110-border-wall-steel-prototype-bugged-al-1025_a94294e20f94de9e58b58be2f7e5f48d.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[11-Jan-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[11-Jan-19 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a concrete wall can be sabotaged by adding sugar to the mix.


[11-Jan-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also increased his demand from $5bill to $5.7bill which means it may increase yet again soon


[11-Jan-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wall just got ten feet higher


[11-Jan-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[11-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's something he said once during his campaign


[11-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
when people told him the wall would cost too much.


[11-Jan-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/MJnGrpJ.jpg

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Thoughts and prayers!!
https://i.imgur.com/MJnGrpJ.jpg


[11-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tired: thoughts and prayers


[11-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wired: thots and players


[11-Jan-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
people seem to be forgetting that he was already offered $25 billion last year for his retarded wall, and he turned it down


[11-Jan-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
now he's willing to make hundreds of thousands of workers who are working without pay homeless for a fifth of what he was originally offered


[11-Jan-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683972414/as-venezuelan-president-maduro-begins-second-term

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Venezuelan President Maduro Begins Second Term, As Millions Leave ...
Migrants are fleeing hyperinflation and widespread hunger. More than a dozen governments in the Americas have rejected the legitimacy of Maduro's re-election.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/01/10/ap_19010605750074_wide-e8998a99cd268070e1ad5780c6def33e128df862.jpg?s=1400


[11-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[11-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
Gee I wonder why people are leaving 🤔


[11-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
obviously because SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM


[11-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
when they're another fucking state capitalist country


[11-Jan-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/10/18177890/trumps-hannity-interview-border-emergency

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Trump’s Hannity interview reveals a president out of touch with ...
He can’t explain what he’s trying to do or why
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cxNf48O-squzCvq9l6cILuJTRmE=/0x0:3143x1646/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13683085/1037041750.jpg.jpg


[11-Jan-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
Even when faced with some of the most egregious softball questions of all time, Trump is barely coherent — unable to describe in any detail what exactly it is that he wants, unable to cite any specific legal authority for a potential emergency declaration option, and unable to describe what such an operation would actually let him achieve.


[11-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Hannity: What are the options though if you declare a national emergency, the Pentagon also has the funds available that they would be able to help support the building of the wall.


[11-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
>Trump: If we don’t make a deal with Congress, which we should be able to. Really just common sense and there is some compromise needed and, look, they know that the wall is working. Do you know what works? A wheel. And a wall. They call it a medieval thing. Well, you know, I’m looking at all these very expensive cars all over here loaded up with machine guns and every single one of them has wheels. A wheel is an old thing. There are two things that they work. A wall would be so effective. It would solve so many killings and so much death and drugs and human trafficking. Where they tape up women on their face. They tape them up and put them in the back of a car or a van and they drive right through our border.


[11-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck does that have to do with the pentagon having funds to build a wall


[11-Jan-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a borderline NPC


[11-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
But this is the crux of the matter. He doesn’t consider this issue very important. It’s not important enough for him to offer Democrats anything of substance in a legislative swap, and it’s not important enough for him to have bothered to learn anything about the issue or even develop a specific proposal. He is imposing huge costs on a huge number of people, but he personally is suffering nothing more than the indignity of hanging out in the White House.


[11-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
And he’s so unselfconscious that he actually threw himself a pity party in the midst of all the problems he’s causing. There’s no apology here for the inconvenience followed by an explanation of why he’s doing it. Because he’s not sorry. He wants us to feel sorry for him. And that in some ways is the most disturbing thing of all.


[11-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, sociopath


[11-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
he's not cold and calculating, just incredibly emotionally stunted and lacking the normal empathy required to deal with people other than himself


[11-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
I actually wonder if trump's campaign staff did a lot of work in order to make him seem more coherent than he actually was while he was still a candidate, or if it's just the stress of the presidency that's fraying what little self-control he managed to scrounge up during his campaign


[11-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/federal-workers-to-demand-end-to-government-shutdown-at-white-house-protest/2019/01/10/330d1c4e-144c-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html


[11-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
Furloughed federal employees and out-of-work contractors greeted one another Thursday with a sarcastic nickname that, on the 20th day of a partial government shutdown, captured their feeling of powerlessness: “Hello, fellow pawns.”


[11-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, the pawns are starting to think


[11-Jan-19 07:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
OwO

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[11-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
Nationally, food inspections and maintenance of national parks have degraded, while federal loans and housing subsidies have languished in a state of limbo. Thousands of federal workers and government contractors have turned to charities and online fundraisers to feed their families and pay bills.


[11-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[11-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
how long before there's a website specifically for collectivism


[11-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
like a sort of gofundme/indiegogo/etc specifically for pooling together money to live collectivistically


[11-Jan-19 07:36 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:commiebutton:


[11-Jan-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
how do you even prevent the whole "lazy collectivist person not doing anything" thing though? that's one of the few valid concerns about collectivist governments that I've seen


[11-Jan-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
since on the whole, people prefer to work


[11-Jan-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
like even if given everything they could possibly want for free in order to survive (shelter, food, water, etc), 90%+ of people still want to work


[11-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
but there'll always be a few people who will refuse to work


[11-Jan-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well at this stage you really don't need everyone to work. Even as far back as Benjamin Franklin's day he was suggesting shorter work days. It would not be inconcievable that in today's more mechanized world you wouldn't need 100% employment to produce everything needed. Arguably, at current employment rates we have most people in sorta unimportant roles that don't do anything productive and are just there for accountancy reasons; the infamous bullshit job.


[11-Jan-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
I did see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpYQ8rYSrI

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Miguel Deitos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpYQ8rYSrI
Adam Estraga Tudo - Jornada de Trabalho
Adam Ruins Everything - S01E08 - Work Assista em: http://www.trutv.com/full-episodes/adam-ruins-everything/index.html
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rHpYQ8rYSrI/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jan-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
"Adam Ruins Everything - Work 40 Hours a Week"


[11-Jan-19 07:54 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Crow if ppl dont want to work-u send them to gulag where they gonna dig belomorcanal,worken in ussr


[11-Jan-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
USSR was totalitarian though


[11-Jan-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
totalitarianism is the antithesis of communism


[11-Jan-19 08:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, according to new shit I've read, turns out in the gulags most people served for five years and not really for being a lazy worker. Most people sent to the gulags were there for some legit crime like theft or even abuse of position. Use that as you will


[11-Jan-19 08:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:stevencool:


[11-Jan-19 08:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
And mass murderers by nkvd is just a capitalist myth


[11-Jan-19 08:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ye after stalin died things calm down


[11-Jan-19 08:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
but in time gap between 1930-1940 ppl were killed for no good reasons


[11-Jan-19 08:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or sended to syberia,working in terrible conditions,not getting enough food, etc


[11-Jan-19 09:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
mfw my russian side of the family were literally grain hoarding kulaks that deserved gulag for realzies


[11-Jan-19 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
they were pretty well off and they were really reactionary, like batshit tier russian orthodox church types


[11-Jan-19 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, french work camps killed basically everyone in them, for the time, gulags were pretty humane in comparison, with few deaths, so if you were to criticize gulags specifically, it would make sense to go for the whole relativity thing, comparing to other work camps of the time


[11-Jan-19 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
gulag is just a scary word, most people don't actually know what it means or what it entailed


[11-Jan-19 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
and nazi work camps were sure as hell far scarier


[11-Jan-19 10:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll go dig up the study or source, but when it comes to gulags people at the least worked less than when under the czars, though more than the average Soviet citizen. When people came sick in the gulags they were treated, the point wasn't to kill, half of prisoners were released in five years, and prisoners were allowed to run a news paper. At the gulag's peak, they only had a population roughly 1/2 or less than what America has in prisons by the 90's and until today.


[11-Jan-19 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
work camps were necessary at this period to make up for all of the people who had died in the revolution, then WW2


[11-Jan-19 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
labour after all, is always necessary, very much so when at war


[11-Jan-19 10:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
American prison population has also skyrocketed exponentially so the ratio is greater now.


[11-Jan-19 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup!


[11-Jan-19 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
and american prisons are basically work camps at this point anyway?


[11-Jan-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though during the time the US prison pop was much lower than the Soviet gulags.


[11-Jan-19 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
they enjoy lots of slave labour


[11-Jan-19 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's 'voluntary' because teeny, tiny, far, far, far below minimum wage an hour and some people have no other choice


[11-Jan-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
They work a lot for little to no pay and get otherwise grifted for that. Food is sometimes trash, esspecially here in Michigan where we've had many state wide issues of maggots in the food.


[11-Jan-19 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair the US didn't become an imperialist superpower til after


[11-Jan-19 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
they more than made up for it and have definitely been responsible for more deaths per decade than 'muh gommunisms'


[11-Jan-19 10:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
So... GG my home country. You basically became what you hated.


[11-Jan-19 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
wars for profit are fun like that


[11-Jan-19 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
and literally making the cold war a thing when the??? USSR from memory was never actually aggressive during the thing really?


[11-Jan-19 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
only defensive?


[11-Jan-19 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
which, y'know, during red scare in general lots of americans were imprisoned or killed : ' )


[11-Jan-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When Americans were brought before Congress to testify because they were commiting the great sin of... Buying their own homes.


[11-Jan-19 10:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Big   o o f   McCarthy


[11-Jan-19 10:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tfw was going to grab some shit from a friend's archive of things refuting claims about the USSR but the whole thing is so large it doesn't want to load on mobile, or it's not letting me make selections. So maybe some other time when I'm at a desktop.


[11-Jan-19 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
what are you using?


[11-Jan-19 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
firefox mobile is basically desktop if it's a huge site


[11-Jan-19 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it runs with plugins and everything


[11-Jan-19 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
on android anyway


[11-Jan-19 10:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
and if it's an archive as in zip, rar, 7z, use Zarchiver


[11-Jan-19 10:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
haven't encountered anything that can't tackle


[11-Jan-19 10:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Some model of Moto running Google's nonsense.


[11-Jan-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
"abuse of position" is how authoritarian gov'ts justify imprisoning dissidents without saying it's because they're dissidents


[11-Jan-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, gov'ts that send people to gulags for years for hard labor are not doing so to clean up the streets.


[11-Jan-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, far-off labor camps in Siberia are not exactly the most efficient way to produce labor


[11-Jan-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin did what he did because he was a paranoid asshole, not because it actually was best for Russia


[11-Jan-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire theme of the Soviet Union was knowing that it couldn't compete fair and square with the US (with better resources and industrial base, more defensible, and much better control of water, with the same population) but continually convincing everyone that it was actually on par thru a mix of manipulation, blatant lies, self-sacrifice, and general ruthlessness. Russia impressed upon others by sending people to gulags for disagreeing and being ballsy enuff to shoot down civilian airliners on purpose.


[11-Jan-19 11:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, Siberia was the option because it was always the option since the czars.


[11-Jan-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of using Siberia is that escape is next to impossible because of the cold.


[11-Jan-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, the Soviet space program had inferior technology thruout, but they were able to get stuff up and running earlier because they saw it as crucial for PR victory and knew "astronaut only got bloodied up from a faulty parachute" was sufficient to do so with.


[11-Jan-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, the way NASA did things was a lot more reliable pre-space-shuttle. Then, hilariously, the Soviets just copied like the entire orbiter design, used a less stupid launch system, and showed they could do an orbiter better...but they only did that because the Soviet leader was pants-on-head retarded and seriously believed a Space Shuttle was actually for bombing things from orbit and wanted to hav it tested to match capabilities.


[11-Jan-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Constant paranoia doesn't really do you much good when your main enemy is legitimately just doing something stupid with scientific goals.


[11-Jan-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putin emulating the Soviet Union is not a good thing for Russia.


[11-Jan-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just going to end up even further behind by sacrificing actual technological and economic development for a slightly tighter geopolitical grip.


[11-Jan-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if the US gets serious about things like prison reforms, it'll leave Russia in the dust even further.


[11-Jan-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, China will completely overshadow Russia as soon as its economic advantages outweigh the importance of natural gas for energy.


[11-Jan-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, imprisoning tons of people for basically no reason doesn't improve your country.


[11-Jan-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want to imprison people economically when the prevention of them further damaging the economy with their crime outweighs, in money adjusting for inflation, the damage of not having them in the economy.


[11-Jan-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you follow this strictly, it leads to some things you might consider absurd


[11-Jan-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it may not be worth it monetarily to imprison someone for murder in most cases.


[11-Jan-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But murder is less common nowadays compared to anything drug-related.


[11-Jan-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's no economic damage from them doing drugs (that can be prevented by them being in jail, at least), so


[11-Jan-19 11:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
>America is committed to prison reform.as it continues to do weak reform and all over there are people serving life sentences for an ounce of weed.


[11-Jan-19 11:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[11-Jan-19 11:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump could go to prison. Trump starts some prison reforms. 😂


[11-Jan-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46828810

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US to 'expel every Iranian boot' from Syria
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Barack Obama had made "dire misjudgements" in the Middle East.
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[11-Jan-19 03:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Jan-19 03:03 PM] byte[]#2610
From the source:
> people in the philly tech javascript channel are complaining that talking about being empathetic to furloughed govt workers isnt being inclusive to the fasc’s who are pro shutdown, and these are people i like interact with every day


[11-Jan-19 03:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fascs?


[11-Jan-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fascists i think


[11-Jan-19 03:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424871-exclusive-trump-team-should-be-allowed-to-correct-final-mueller

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Exclusive: Trump team should be allowed to ‘correct’ final Mue...
Rudy Giuliani says President Trump’s legal team should be allowed to “correct” special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report before Congress or the American people get the chance to read it.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giulianirudy_053018upi_lead.jpg


[11-Jan-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[11-Jan-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no thye shouldnt


[11-Jan-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would be a huge conflict of interest


[11-Jan-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"well this guy robbed a bank but his lawyer shoudl have full control over all media coverage of his robbery"


[11-Jan-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[11-Jan-19 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-testimony.html

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By MAGGIE HABERMAN and NICHOLAS FANDOS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-testimony.html
Michael Cohen, Trump’s Former Lawyer, Agrees to Testify to Congress
In a decision that could further damage President Trump’s image, Mr. Cohen will give “a full and credible account” of his work for Mr. Trump next month before the House Oversight Committee.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/11/us/politics/11dc-cohen-print/11dc-cohen-facebookJumbo.jpg


[11-Jan-19 05:48 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahahahahah


[11-Jan-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/6TF6vBP.png

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[11-Jan-19 06:15 PM] moonatik#3676
:StalinApproved:


[11-Jan-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/11/shutdown-situation-bleak-feds-rally-against-trump-white-house/


[11-Jan-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
"None of trump's actions make sense until you realize that his objective is to destroy the United States for the long term. Then you realize that he has been hideously effective in that capacity."


[11-Jan-19 06:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-funny-risa-haha-gif-4601800

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Risa de Putin
https://media.tenor.co/images/f21718e18d0ed7b21c0216b408821ad5/raw


[11-Jan-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Jan-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gy774j/a-fake-nude-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-was-debunked-by-foot-fetishists

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A Fake Nude of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Was Debunked By Foot Fetis...
Wikifeet foiled an attempt to shame the congresswoman with a fake Instagram post.
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[11-Jan-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Weird flex but ok


[11-Jan-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424871-exclusive-trump-team-should-be-allowed-to-correct-final-mueller

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Exclusive: Trump team should be allowed to ‘correct’ final Mue...
Rudy Giuliani says President Trump’s legal team should be allowed to “correct” special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report before Congress or the American people get the chance to read it.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giulianirudy_053018upi_lead.jpg


[11-Jan-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can I correct my exam grades?


[11-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0JWtXaK9XY

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Scarlett Stewie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0JWtXaK9XY
Family Guy - No government
Family Guy No government Peter involves himself in a no government policy and end up regretting his actions Family Guy Season 10 Episode 21
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n0JWtXaK9XY/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
stock market's starting to take a hit due to the shutdown


[11-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/11/ocasio-cortez-in-line-for-banking-post-and-that-could-be-bad-news-for-wall-street.html

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Ocasio-Cortez reportedly in line for banking post, and that could ...
Freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is in line to be appointed to the House Financial Services Committee, according to a Politico report.
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[11-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/KNupH

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San Diego station claims CNN asked for local border wall perspecti...
archived 11 Jan 2019 18:41:14 UTC


[11-Jan-19 09:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihG6AGjkRk

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Philosophy Tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihG6AGjkRk
How to Fix the Housing Crisis | Philosophy Tube ft. Mexie
A video that is definitely about comic books AND NOTHING ELSE Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/PhilosophyTube Mexie: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCepkun0s...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qihG6AGjkRk/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
eminent domain?


[11-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
"oh boy golly, that's a lot of empty houses sitting around doing nothing, YOINK"


[11-Jan-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/health/ny-news-traditional-masculinity-harmful-psychological-association-20190109-story.html

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'Traditional masculinity' officially labeled 'harmful' by the Amer...
The American Psychological Association has issued its first official warning against toxic masculinity.
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[11-Jan-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RandyResist/status/1083463907321077761

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Randy #RESISTER (@RandyResist)
https://twitter.com/RandyResist/status/1083463907321077761
From Amy Patrick, an engineer, Wall Expert. 

I’m a licensed structural and civil engineer with a MS in structural engineering from the top program in the nation and over a decade of experience on high-performance projects...
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[11-Jan-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
wall expert lol


[11-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/shutdown-paycheck-what-it-looks-like-trnd/index.html

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He worked 64 hours this pay period. Here's what his pay stub looks...
During this pay period, William Striffler, an air traffic controller, worked 64 hours. The amount listed under "net pay?" $0.00.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190111061635-shutdown-paycheck-super-tease.jpg


[11-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
64 hours of work for $0.00


[11-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
"We don't want to be used as political pawns," he said. "We just want to know that we're going to go to work and that we're going to get paid and not have to worry about the added stress. We have stressful enough jobs as it is."


[11-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
"I don't want to blame anybody. I just want them to get together, find a [solution] and not use us as a pawn in either way," he said. "We just want to get back to work and get our paychecks."


[11-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democrats-establisment-1093728

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Exasperated Democrats try to rein in Ocasio-Cortez
The effort is part carrot, part stick. But it's far from clear the anti-establishment political novice can be made to play ball.
https://static.politico.com/ca/1e/f38566354ed781ef10816ea7361d/190110-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ap-773.jpg


[11-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
The effort, described by nearly 20 lawmakers and aides, is part carrot, part stick: Some lawmakers with ties to Ocasio-Cortez are hoping to coax her into using her star power to unite Democrats and turn her fire on Republicans. Others simultaneously warn Ocasio-Cortez is destined for a lonely, ineffectual career in Congress if she continues to treat her own party as the enemy.


[11-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
the neoliberals are starting to attack cortez


[11-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
“She needs to decide: Does she want to be an effective legislator or just continue being a Twitter star?” said one House Democrat who’s in lockstep with Ocasio Cortez’s ideology. “There’s a difference between being an activist and a lawmaker in Congress.”


[11-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
uh


[11-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
why?


[11-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
how does being an "activist" exclude being a "lawmaker"?


[11-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
you can be both


[11-Jan-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Shouldnt a lawmaker want to be an activist?


[11-Jan-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that question to me sounds more like "There's a difference between being someone who wants to better the country, and someone who wants to be a useful money dump to corporations. and we want mroe money dumps"


[11-Jan-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"quit ruinign the money train for us, we don;t want to better the country we like that it's broken. It makes it easier to cahs in on"


[11-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, the neoliberals are starting to get antsy over cortez not immediately falling in line


[11-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if all the news about her dancing in college and the attempts to doctor nudes of her are actually the results of neoliberals trying to find something to blackmail her with


[11-Jan-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont really understadn the dancign in college thing


[11-Jan-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dancing in college is a bad thing now?


[11-Jan-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the neoliberals want to stop her before she starts inspiring people to rise up liek bernie sanders did


[11-Jan-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm sure the 2020 election is goign to see mroe interference from the DNC to keep unobedient dogs out of the preliminary running


[11-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/424879-ocasio-cortez-responds-to-joe-liebermans-criticisms-new-party-who-dis

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Ocasio-Cortez responds to Joe Lieberman’s criticisms: ‘New par...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Thursday fired back at former Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_010319sr_lead.jpg


[11-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[11-Jan-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope she is the future of the democratic party


[11-Jan-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which one yelled "We're gonna impeach this motherfucker!"?


[11-Jan-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause i hope she;s the future of the party as well


[11-Jan-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need mroe swearign politicians


[11-Jan-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The democrats need new life blood and the willingess to get controversial if this country is goign to get anywhere


[11-Jan-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if we hope to fix it once we get rid of trump


[11-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
rashida tlaib said that


[11-Jan-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well I  hope she does wonderful things in her time as a congresswoman


[11-Jan-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she has my support


[11-Jan-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/439zmg/scientists-cant-fix-map-of-earths-magnetic-field-thanks-to-the-government-shutdown

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Scientists Can’t Fix Map of Earth’s Magnetic Field Thanks to t...
The federal government was set to update the World Magnetic Model but had to delay it because of the shutdown.
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[12-Jan-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jan-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/11/stock-market-dow-under-pressure-as-investors-await-inflation-data.html?__source=msn%7Cmoney%7Cheadline%7Cstory%7C&par=msn

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Stocks rise more than 2% for the week
Stocks posted weekly gains, but an ongoing U.S. government shutdown and worries about China pushed shares marginally lower on Friday.
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[12-Jan-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-wall-gofundme-gofundme-border-wall-campaign-to-refund-all-donors-after-falling-short-2019-01-11/

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GoFundMe "Trump Wall" campaign to refund all donors after falling ...
Brian Kolfage raised more than $20 million on the website to build a wall along the southern border
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[12-Jan-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pFDEGdK

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Working at Costco.
https://i.imgur.com/Fg6CeeAh.jpg


[12-Jan-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr working at costco is great because you actually get properly reimbursed and treated like an actual person


[12-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
I was hoping that they guy running the Build the Wall GoFundMe would actually steal the money, the supporters deserve to get robbed


[12-Jan-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think their effort was honest, but also poorly directed


[12-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think you can actually take the money until it's fully funded


[12-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
not sure if that limit is kickstarter only or not


[12-Jan-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i beleive gofund me has a "flexible goal" setting


[12-Jan-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which allows you to just take what money you earned by deadline and go


[12-Jan-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though it;s considered a scumbag move to enable it


[12-Jan-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"flexible funding" is also usually a nice big red flag that the gofundme is a scam


[12-Jan-19 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jan-19 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanuel L jackson is awesome


[12-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/samuelljackson/status/1082097661916954625

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Samuel L. Jackson (@SamuelLJackson)
https://twitter.com/samuelljackson/status/1082097661916954625
@RashidaTlaib I just wanna Wholeheartedly endorse your use of & clarity of purpose when declaring your Motherfucking goal last week.Calling that Muthafukkah a Motherfucker is not an issue,calling that Muthaffuqah President Is!!!#motherfuckeristoogoodtowasteonthatcankersore
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[12-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
all these responses are salty as fuck


[12-Jan-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/several-gay-men-women-detained-chechnya-activists-say-n957706

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Several gay men and women detained in Chechnya, activists say
The reports come a year and a half after more than 100 gay men in the Russian region were arrested and subjected to torture, according to activists.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2030126/170608_chechnya_protest_8f5d99b92ae7655cc8092b8faad5cbd6.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[12-Jan-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
Several people have been recently detained in Russia's Chechnya region on suspicion of being gay, in a throwback to an earlier crackdown, activists said on Friday.


[12-Jan-19 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656

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[12-Jan-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-approves-backpay-federal-workers-government-shutdown_us_5c38ece7e4b0922a21d4c2d9

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Congress Approves Backpay For Federal Workers Affected By Governme...
President Donald Trump still needs to sign the legislation, but it's looking like federal workers will eventually get any paychecks they've missed.
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[12-Jan-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
>The bill still requires a signature from President Donald Trump, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) indicated Thursday that the president told him he would sign it if it reached his desk.


[12-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
the important part is that their backpay is approved... at the end of the shutdown


[12-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
so as long as the shutdown is happening, they still aren't being paid


[12-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/11/congress-approves-back-pay-eventually-for-furloughed-federal-employees/


[12-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
Officials said the bill could be presented quickly to the White House for signature as a stand-alone measure. In past shutdowns, such language more commonly has been attached to the broader measures that ultimately restored agency funding.


[12-Jan-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
they're basically guaranteeing backpay without actually guaranteeing when they'll receive that backpay


[12-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
and even though there's actually nearly supermajority support for ending the government shutdown (at least in the senate), mcconnell isn't letting anything that would end the shutdown come up for discussion


[12-Jan-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Guess i'll starve then" 🤷‍♂️
-Federal employees


[12-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
because it would go against emperor trump's will


[12-Jan-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, anyone starving to death over this is clearly just a true patriot who wants that border secured etc. etc. anyone who doesn't fall in line will be castigated by Fox News


[12-Jan-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not a furlough with possible homelessness, it;s a strike with people willingly giving up their homes to support the wall


[12-Jan-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah like all the Air Traffic Controllers man that wouldn't be detrimental to anything if they lost their homes or can't eat


[12-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-disapprove-of-handling-of-government-shutdown-cbs-news/

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Trump, Democrats and GOP draw disapproval over shutdown - CBS News...
New CBS News poll finds Americans are concerned about the impact of the government shutdown, poised to be the longest in U.S. history
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/01/11/6bcb586e-e93c-4e6a-bb0a-ec232062f452/thumbnail/1200x630/def28d9de47d43a234837be70678b4c6/ap-19010687516850.jpg


[12-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/01/12/3277495a-1d1d-42b2-aa37-c511f542151f/thumbnail/620x349/0a8ebe57335e9bd3e9a8044be7f300a5/poll-3.jpg

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https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/01/12/3277495a-1d1d-42b2-aa37-c511f542151f/thumbnail/620x349/0a8ebe57335e9bd3e9a8044be7f300a5/poll-3.jpg


[12-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yet more evidence Independents tend to be the mean and also hate Trump


[12-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a 3:1 split in your own party is baaaaad


[12-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means you've lost even a lot of partisans.


[12-Jan-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You never want to see support for anything you propose to dip below 80% in your own party.


[12-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/97LWF

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Conservative Men Are Obsessed With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Scien...
archived 11 Jan 2019 22:27:34 UTC


[12-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
>Conservative Men Are Obsessed With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Science Tells Us Why.


[12-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
"science"


[12-Jan-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
"In a way, Ocasio-Cortez is the most formidable opponent to President Donald Trump the Democratic Party has put forth yet. She has even more of a knack for social media than America’s first Twitter president; she’s anti-establishment like he is; she breaks all the rules of how a politician is supposed to behave; and she has an undeniably strong emotional appeal."


[12-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Conservative men are confused at being drawn to this bright rising star in the Democratic Party while loathing everything she stands for. "


[12-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr she hotter than Palin but she wants socialized medicine


[12-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservative boners are writhing


[12-Jan-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have a half chub but they dont knwo what to do with it


[12-Jan-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when you want coal to rule the land, but you get a boner when a democrat is talking about millions of solar panels to power your furry porn machine with


[12-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
"That’s why conservatives want and need to undercut her influence. And the most time-tested way to undermine a woman’s power is to sexualize her, to make her an object instead of an agent. A 2013 study by the Women’s Media Center found that merely discussing a female candidate’s appearance has a negative effect on her support from voters."


[12-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically make her look like just some whore


[12-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the boner is for raping good policy ideas into her


[12-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
anal coal


[12-Jan-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
"The problem for these men is that Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t seem interested in what they think of her. She doesn’t seek attention for anything other than her policy ideas and ambition, even though Americans still seem to dislike power-seeking women. The typical strategies men use to devalue women ― “sexualizing, dismissing, controlling, teasing, criticizing, interrupting, psychopathologizing, humiliating, abusing,” according to one psychologist ― seem to bounce right off her."


[12-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
"That kind of inability to deal with a woman like Ocasio-Cortez is, in many ways, emblematic of the broader crisis facing the Republican Party, which is moving backward in terms of gender diversity in Congress even as Democrats add more women and people of color to their ranks each year. In the 1990s, women were equally distributed across both parties in Congress; today, there are 13 Republican women and 89 Democratic women."


[12-Jan-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She can kinda meme too.


[12-Jan-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it breaks that right wing meme


[12-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make Pepe an immigrant asking for diversity


[12-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch the alt-right burn.


[12-Jan-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember the alt-right briefly tried to say blatant trademark/copyright infringement of Boys Club didn't matter


[12-Jan-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You absolutely cannot have modern capitalism without the state defending those things, and enforcing contracts


[12-Jan-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A private court system as the only option wouldn't work either


[12-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-norway-trump-20180113-story.html

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More Americans migrated to Norway than the other way around in 2016
Norwegians generally live longer than Americans. There's a generous safety net of health care and pensions. And although it's pricey, the country last year was
https://www.trbimg.com/img-5a5a88f6/turbine/ct-norway-trump-20180113


[12-Jan-19 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's pricey but chances are jobs pay enoguh to actually afford itt here


[12-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
unions have absolute control in norway


[12-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
you don't just get dropped out of a company every time they "reshuffle" things


[12-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
if your job is no longer necessary, the company will either move you to another position you're qualified for, or pay for your retraining so you can keep working there


[12-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably my 3rd choice for a Scandinavian country to live in


[12-Jan-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds good to me


[12-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
what are your second and first choices?


[12-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sweden, Denmark, Norway, then Finland


[12-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
what's better about sweden and denmark?


[12-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In EU


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
norway is all but a member of the EU


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because they wanted to keep control of their own, very effective fish management


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Britain is gonna get fucked over with that


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The new Yoshi game comes out March 29


[12-Jan-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yes


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
they have the open borders agreement thing with the EU


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Brits are calling it "Yoshi's Crafted Brexit"


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
UK will just Brenter like 10 years from now


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is brexit happeening march 29th?


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The shit the EU is dealing with is minor given its goals


[12-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
so people in the EU and norway can freely travel to/from each other


[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do I know I'm just a dumb American


[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
I'm an american crow >:V


[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Muh federalism


[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Caw

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[12-Jan-19 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly norway seems downright pleasdant to live in


[12-Jan-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which one has the prisons that are more like community centers where the inmate shave jobs and actuall lives and an allowance, till they're reformed and can join society again?


[12-Jan-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, norway is also a member of NATO


[12-Jan-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
not being able to actually let people go is actually a problem because it makes it really hard to get rid of toxic people


[12-Jan-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
in general though it's good that people can't get fired for bullshit reasons


[12-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.nyinorge.no/en/Ny-i-Norge-velg-sprak/New-in-Norway/Work/Employment/Dismissal/


[12-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
>An employee cannot be dismissed because she is pregnat. If the employer cannot prove that the dismissal is unrelated to the pregnancy, the dismissal is unlawful.


[12-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
one thing I absolutely hate about the culture in the US is that women are expected to give up their right to procreate if they want to persue a career or higher education


[12-Jan-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
procreation is overrated


[12-Jan-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
it wouldn't be in a country like norway


[12-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, that's the perfect place to procreate


[12-Jan-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
> 1.72 births per woman (2016)


[12-Jan-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
vs usa
> 1.80 births per woman (2016)


[12-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
all of the reactionary fearmongering about "the illegals outbreeding the whites" makes me cringe


[12-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
they basically frame illegal immigrants like they're some kind of wild animal that'll violently displace all non-immigrants


[12-Jan-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/01/trump-shithole-norway/550382/

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Why Norwegians Aren't Moving to the U.S.
The country Trump wants immigrants from isn't really interested.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/01/RTX31TWY/facebook.jpg?1522768765


[12-Jan-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
>The country discovered oil in the late 1960s, and, unlike other resource-rich countries that have succumbed to mismanagement and corruption in the face of sudden wealth, invested heavily in its people and its economy to become one of the world’s wealthiest places.


[12-Jan-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html

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By ADAM GOLDMAN, MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and NICHOLAS FANDOS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on B...
The investigation, whose fate is unclear, led counterintelligence investigators to consider an explosive question: whether the president’s actions constituted a possible threat to national security.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/12/us/politics/12fbi-1-print/12fbi-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
Rudolph W. Giuliani, a lawyer for the president, sought to play down the significance of the investigation. “The fact that it goes back a year and a half and nothing came of it that showed a breach of national security means they found nothing,” Mr. Giuliani said on Friday, though he acknowledged that he had no insight into the inquiry.


[12-Jan-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
oh, neat https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629

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Tulsi Gabbard to run for president
“I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” she said during an interview on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."
https://static.politico.com/66/93/7c5d05a7482ca44bbfc0758abddb/tulsigabbarbgettyimages-583541300.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:15 AM] moonatik#3676
when's bernie gonna announce


[12-Jan-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
bernie might actually support her instead of trying to run himself


[12-Jan-19 05:15 AM] moonatik#3676
can't have too many progressives running if we don't want to split the vote


[12-Jan-19 05:15 AM] moonatik#3676
though i doubt anybody has as good a chance as bernie


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
HAHAHAHAHA


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
are you serious right now


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] moonatik#3676
yes


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
HAHAHAHAHAHA


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] moonatik#3676
he is the most popular politician in the US


[12-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you think your gonna win


[12-Jan-19 05:17 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkftiHtgWC8

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[12-Jan-19 05:17 AM] Mikey#7286
_m8_


[12-Jan-19 05:17 AM] moonatik#3676
https://news.gallup.com/poll/243539/americans-maintain-positive-view-bernie-sanders.aspx

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Americans Maintain a Positive View of Bernie Sanders
Sen. Bernie Sanders is still viewed favorably by a small majority of U.S. adults. Meanwhile, fellow democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez draws mixed ratings -- and half of Americans are unfamiliar with her.
https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/bjmkyausj0ajyoazxk3ynw.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
bernie sanders is the only democratic candidate that could've beaten trump


[12-Jan-19 05:18 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[12-Jan-19 05:18 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
watch your party fuck it up again


[12-Jan-19 05:18 AM] moonatik#3676
https://morningconsult.com/2018/10/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-10-10/

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America’s Most and Least Popular Senators — October 2018
The nation’s most vulnerable senators made up little ground in their approval during the third quarter, a sign that multi-million-dollar efforts by Republicans in their states to maintain control in Senate next month’s midterm elections may be taking a toll.
https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/191011_featured-image.png


[12-Jan-19 05:19 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/sanders_favorableunfavorable-5263.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Sanders: Favorable/Unfavorable
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Sanders: Favorable/Unfavorable
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/images/realclearpolitics_social_logo.png


[12-Jan-19 05:19 AM] moonatik#3676
I could do this all day


[12-Jan-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
he's baiting


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] moonatik#3676
don't really mind lol


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
yes you are


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
I'm starting to think he's bipolar


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
things aren't free


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
can you add anything of substance to debate


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] moonatik#3676
^


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
not just


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you do know everyone is done


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
right


[12-Jan-19 05:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the far left


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
"yer gonna lose" "you democrats suck"


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
etc


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
he goes from violently defending conservatives or attacking democrats to pity partying for himself and how his parents force him to be conservative


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
and he never backs himself up with evidence


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] moonatik#3676
>bernie sanders
>far left


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
stop spouting b.s.


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] moonatik#3676
:MissThinking:


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah Bernie isn't even Democrat


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
let me just say it right now


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, bernie is considered far left


[12-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
he's independent


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no one likes Bernie no more


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
in any other, sane country, he's considered moderate left


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
can you provide some statistics


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] moonatik#3676
lol can you cite any polls on that?


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] moonatik#3676
I just posted a shitload of polls that display the opposite


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
because Moontaik cited some that say people do like him


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] moonatik#3676
yeet


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
say


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
something


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
of value


[12-Jan-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
not just "you're done"


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] moonatik#3676
"bernie man bad"


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
please for the love of all that is good


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] moonatik#3676
"evil far left SJW NPCs"


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
back


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
your


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
claims


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
up


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] moonatik#3676
sorry I can't help myself


[12-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
lol you're fine


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] moonatik#3676
nah I'm resorting to mockery, which while it's funny shouldn't be done if I'm trying to have a proper debate


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] moonatik#3676
then we're both in the gutter


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Mikey#7286
well he doesn't want to either so


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you do know if this far left shit happens


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
war is gonna happen


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Mikey#7286
stop


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] moonatik#3676
war?


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im not joking


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] moonatik#3676
please back this up


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
he's a bipolar dude in his 20s who's forced by his parents to be conservative or else be disowned, because apparently keeping your own opinions private is too hard or something


[12-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Mikey#7286
you are just spouting Alex Jones level b.s.


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-cancel-visit-american-civil-war-1287282

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https://www.newsweek.com/russia-cancel-visit-american-civil-war-1287282
Russian official cancels U.S. visit, saying "second American civil...
Russia's space agency chief and former deputy prime minister, Dmitry Rogozin, called U.S. actions "an outrage" and a display of "complete international lawlessness."
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/01/10/gettyimages-810825414_0.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] moonatik#3676
and I thought the things people said about trump were ridiculous


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] Mikey#7286
>russia said


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] Mikey#7286
AHAHAHAHAH


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] moonatik#3676
ah yes a russian official


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] Mikey#7286
RUSSIA


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
uh, a russian official that would likely be arrested


[12-Jan-19 05:25 AM] moonatik#3676
only the most trustworthy and solid authorities


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
of course because a Russian is someone you should take seriously


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Arvid#8335
What's with conservatives and obssessing over a civil war?


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
mate


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Russia doesn't like us at all


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
we've been enemies since WW2


[12-Jan-19 05:26 AM] Arvid#8335
"The democrats 'r gonna start a civil war that'll kill MILLIONS!"


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
ONOES


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] moonatik#3676
they know the only way they can win in the modern era is through illegitimate means


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
m8


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] moonatik#3676
plus the fact they obsess over the 1st civil war


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a civil war is possible


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't say this lightly


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
if you're bipolar


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
stop trying to debate


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Arvid#8335
Shirani on the main site also loves too go off about how a civil war is about to happen


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
oh god


[12-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
don't remind me


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
the guy is probably also bipolar


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
and he definitely has temper issues


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] moonatik#3676
reminds me of those RW youtubers that predict time and time again that the collapse of the west/germany/the EU is imminent if they don't stop the influx of brown people or something


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] Arvid#8335
ugh, yeah


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
lol never expect him to stay away from the Politics thread


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Sargon of Akkad is a good source for news!


[12-Jan-19 05:28 AM] moonatik#3676
stefan molyneux thumbnails from 3 years ago are a delight


[12-Jan-19 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[12-Jan-19 05:29 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
no matter how many times he says he will


[12-Jan-19 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
sadly


[12-Jan-19 05:29 AM] moonatik#3676
"THERE WILL NEVER BE A RECOVERY" said stefan, briefly before a recovery


[12-Jan-19 05:29 AM] Arvid#8335
"THE EU WILL COLLAPSE FROM MIGRANTS WITHIN 2 YEARS!!!! WHITE PEOPLE LITERALLY EXTINCT"


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] moonatik#3676
fuck it's late for me


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] moonatik#3676
I need to go to bed


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, germany's gotten the refugee thing under control


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] moonatik#3676
try not to get replaced lol


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
the conservatives on the tartarus thread complain about the thread being left-biased but when the old thread was active it was right wing biased


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Arvid#8335
RIP Moonatik victim of the white genocide. ; (


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
they've added over 300,000 refugees to the work force now


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
really


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
and are adding more at a rate of about 7,000 per month


[12-Jan-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest hurdle was getting everything set up to teach all of them german


[12-Jan-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
and german is probably the hardest germanic language to learn


[12-Jan-19 05:31 AM] Arvid#8335
No doubt that the the refugee crisis could have been handled *better* by the EU.


[12-Jan-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
nn @moonatik


[12-Jan-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-shelter/texas-tent-city-that-holds-migrant-teens-to-close-idUSKCN1P527N

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-shelter/texas-tent-city-that-holds-migrant-teens-to-close-idUSKCN1P527N
Texas tent city that holds migrant teens to close
A tent city in Texas for migrant teens will close, the U.S. government said on F...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190112&t=2&i=1344794804&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0A1F1


[12-Jan-19 05:31 AM] Arvid#8335
But to deny the migrants because "muh white nation" would be sociopathic.


[12-Jan-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
A tent city in Texas for migrant teens will close, the U.S. government said on Friday, and the children held in what had become a controversial symbol of President Donald Trump’s migration policy will be transferred to sponsors or other shelters.


[12-Jan-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, have you heard anything about tulsi gabbard?


[12-Jan-19 05:33 AM] Arvid#8335
From what I can gather when the migrant crisis was at it's worst the EU didn't do a very good job at rationing it's resources basically.


[12-Jan-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
all I really know about her from a political standpoint is that she aligns with bernie and has an anti-interventionist policy


[12-Jan-19 05:33 AM] Arvid#8335
Which lead to a lot of them living on the streets.


[12-Jan-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the EU as a whole didn't really come together to deal with the issue and left the majority of actions taken to its constituent members to deal with it on their own


[12-Jan-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
like poland completely refused to help at all


[12-Jan-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
and italy is actively preventing any sort of humanitarian aid to them


[12-Jan-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
like, any humanitarian aid at all, not just their own country


[12-Jan-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow No


[12-Jan-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
rofl https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46822472

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46822472
Yellow vests knock out 60% of speed cameras
France's interior minister says protesters have rendered more than half of speed cameras useless.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1397D/production/_105135208_hi051049889.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
"Members of the "yellow vests" protest movement have vandalised almost 60% of France's entire speed camera network, the interior minister has said."


[12-Jan-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
get fucked


[12-Jan-19 05:38 AM] Mikey#7286
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/424942-the-7-republicans-who-voted-against-back-pay-for-furloughed-government-workers?amp

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/424942-the-7-republicans-who-voted-against-back-pay-for-furloughed-government-workers?amp
The 7 Republicans who voted against back pay for furloughed workers
The House and Senate this week voted overwhelmingly to provide back pay to about 800,000 federal workers who ar
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/shutdown_rally_011019sr2_lead.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:40 AM] Mikey#7286
wow Trump isn't completely heartless


[12-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that the bill isn't a "pay our workers right now" thing


[12-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's a "pay our workers when the shutdown ends" thing


[12-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
so while it guarantees that the employees working without pay will be paid, it doesn't guarantee when the shutdown will end


[12-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[12-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
still, before there was no guarantee they would get backpay


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
here is the thing the man does care about the country


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
wrong


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yes he does


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
he cares about himself


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
explain it then


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so far


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
everything has been fine


[12-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
look at his past?


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
No it hasn't?????


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
past is in the past


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yeah it is


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
he brought his past with him


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
explain what Obama has done


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
he's running the country just like a failed business


[12-Jan-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
this isn't about Obama


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
explain what he has done


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
this about the current manbaby in chief


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
THIS


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
IS


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
NOT


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
ABOUT


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
O B A M A


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
stop talking like a 2 year old


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
say


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
something


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
useful!


[12-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[12-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so why do you have


[12-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Mikey#7286
you have not backed up a SINGLE THING YOU HAVE SAID


[12-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
to be backwards


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you guys cared about your selves back in those 1800s


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
here is the thing


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
????


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
i wasn't around in the 1800s


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
why are you saying we don't need any type of boarder security


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
now you're talking nonsense


[12-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
we HAVE border security


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
we have walls already


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well it aint doing enough


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
see the problem


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
people are not just _breaking_ into the country by crossing the border illegaly


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
is the way you you want this country


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wrong


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
they apprehend 300k people at customs


[12-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and most of them are male


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you do know


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/us/drugs-border-wall.html

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By RON NIXON
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/us/drugs-border-wall.html
By Land, Sea or Catapult: How Smugglers Get Drugs Across the Border
As the United States increases the number of agents, drones, sensors and cameras on the border, smugglers resort to more inventive modes.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/07/21/us/22dc-overthewall1/22dc-overthewall1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we could have people from other countries besides mexico


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216


[12-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
dont give me nbc or new york times


[12-Jan-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
these are STATISTICS


[12-Jan-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
give me evidence of illegal border crossings


[12-Jan-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
now


[12-Jan-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us

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https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us
Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data ...
The Trump administration says there is a national security crisis at the Southern border. But most people in the country illegally didn't sneak across the border; they overstayed their visas.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/01/10/teaser-web1_wide-42051eb9d6ef35fc79470df235c57d58c40aa6b2.png?s=1400


[12-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

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https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/
Illegal Immigration Statistics - FactCheck.org
Much of the political rhetoric in recent weeks has focused on illegal immigration. We thought it would be helpful to take a step back and look at some measures of illegal immigration in a larger context.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/border-apprehensions-thumb.jpg


[12-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF2Ho564BS0

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Fox News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF2Ho564BS0
Retired ICE agent tells Tucker why we need the wall
Democrats are calling for a 'technological wall' consisting of cell phone checks, sensors and drone; retired ICE special agent Victor Avila weighs in. #Tucke...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xF2Ho564BS0/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
>Fox news


[12-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah no


[12-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know what


[12-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you aint worth my damn time


[12-Jan-19 06:01 AM] Mikey#7286
i have given unbiased data, the word of one ex ICE agent is not worth my time


[12-Jan-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow So on case you need to know Tulsi Gabbard I guess is really supportive of hella right-wing reactionary Hindu Nationalists in India.


[12-Jan-19 06:01 AM] Mikey#7286
border security says they "support" the wall but they're probably afraid of Trump


[12-Jan-19 06:02 AM] Mikey#7286
you aren't worth my time if you're going to link an article from a russian official and the word of one ICE agent


[12-Jan-19 06:02 AM] Mikey#7286
we've linked credible data and evidence


[12-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but wait you think its ok coming to a mans house and fucking destroying his property


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
nice strawman


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if you guys did that shit in Texas their be guns


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
guess what


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
chicken butt


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
if someone wants into your home


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
they're going to find a way


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and end up having a nice semi auto shotgun


[12-Jan-19 06:05 AM] Mikey#7286
no amount of security will stop someone crafty


[12-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
btw that ICE guy seems more focused on the fact that we need more technology like sensors and drones than the need for an actual wall


[12-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
in that interview


[12-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Mikey#7286
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal and if you live in a state with strict gun laws?


[12-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
um hey guest i dont


[12-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah well a lot of people do


[12-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
also he quit back in 2011


[12-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
back when there was a huge amount of gang violence


[12-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
most states don't let you walk into a store and buy a semi-auto rifle


[12-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well i dont


[12-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
have a gun


[12-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
and when obama did his retarded fast and furious thing


[12-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
any security system is just a delay system, given enough time anything can be gotten into. The presumption then is that the wall will cause enough delay in order to prevent illegal immigration but again it's just a static wall, the technology to find them is more important because if it's a 30ft wall, you can get a 40 foot extension ladder at a hardware store and the delay of climbing a wall is negligible to the distance you've crossed already to get to the wall


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump basically encouraged immigrants to toss acid on his steel barrier


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
besides it's also going to be awful for the local ecology around the wall


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
the most cost effective thing would be a bunch of remotely monitored cameras


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i want to go back to texas


[12-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i hate the north


[12-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im not gonna lie this state im in sucks


[12-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-30/

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-30/
Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure | The White...
South Lawn 9:32 A.M. EST THE PRESIDENT:  So, we’re going to Texas.  We’re going to the border.  Just spoke with some of my friends in Arizona.  We have tremendous support.  The Republicans are extremely united.  They all want to see something happen, but they’re e...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/wh.gov-share-img_03-1024x538.png


[12-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
starts with a i ends with a


[12-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Indiana


[12-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yup


[12-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Mikey#7286
```Q    There were pictures this morning showing a steel barrier wall being sawed straight through.  What good is a steel wall if they can saw through it?

THE PRESIDENT:  Well, that’s a wall that was designed by previous administrations.  There’s nothing that can’t be penetrated, but you fix it.  But it’s a very difficult thing to do.  But that’s a wall, and they have other walls.  We have many walls under consideration.  Even concrete — there’s acid that can go through concrete.  But what you do is you fix it.  And it very much limits.  It’s very, very hard.  The wall that we’re doing is very, very hard to penetrate.```


[12-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if anything


[12-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6577829/Trumps-steel-wall-SAWED-HALF-common-tool-testing.html

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6577829/Trumps-steel-wall-SAWED-HALF-common-tool-testing.html
Trump's steel 'wall' SAWED IN HALF by a 'common tool' during testing
The new wall prototype consisting of steel bollards didn't hold up when members of the military and border police went at it with common tools as part of a test.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/10/16/8365034-0-image-a-3_1547136152458.jpg


[12-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i want to go back home


[12-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
shit


[12-Jan-19 06:13 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well i guest a wall would do not nothing


[12-Jan-19 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
I can probably go to Harbor Frieght and get a plasma cutter for $100ish bucks


[12-Jan-19 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
and a generator to run it for another 100


[12-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
aint indiana part of the most depressing states in statistics


[12-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
I guess I'm wrong the inverter style is like 600 bucks


[12-Jan-19 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
oxy acetalene would probably be cheaper though maybe slightly less portable


[12-Jan-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
there's hand saws for steel


[12-Jan-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
and power tools too


[12-Jan-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
but if a saw goes through it, it's basically pointless to put up


[12-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
another problem is that the walls weren't designed by engineers, but contractors that would be paid to put them up


[12-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but it's going to be mild steel, making a wall from harded steel would be ludicrously expensive


[12-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
that's the whole point lol


[12-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
the entire wall business is pointless unless you have people to man the wall


[12-Jan-19 06:18 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i wish you guys had a gaming channel


[12-Jan-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
walls don't stop people from getting in, people on walls stop people from getting in


[12-Jan-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
use #general-discussion for gaming


[12-Jan-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY_Yiu2U2Ts

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY_Yiu2U2Ts
Europe’s most fortified border is in Africa
The death trap that separates Europe and Africa still can't stop everyone. Check out the full Vox Borders experience, including a look at how we made this se...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LY_Yiu2U2Ts/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yeah i see it


[12-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
that border is infinitely more secure than even the most robust border wall idea between the US and mexico


[12-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
and it still has people slip through


[12-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
only a few out of thousands, but still


[12-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
and that border is only 7 miles long


[12-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i just need to back the fuck away from politics


[12-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its not my forte


[12-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
the US-mexico border is about 1900 miles long


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
however


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im right leaning


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so im gonna say this


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
please dont give me any hate speech


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and i wont give you any


[12-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im fine with debates


[12-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but truth be told


[12-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i aint that political


[12-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also im sorry


[12-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
just gonna say that


[12-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
are we cool?


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
this is the fourth time you've come in here screaming about democrats starting a civil war


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
out of the blue


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
does it really look like i want a war


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
so don't blame me when I come to the conclusion that it'll happen again


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont


[12-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so


[12-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
just please just be chill


[12-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont want any fights or anything


[12-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe it's safer to stay out of debates if you're not political


[12-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
maybe you should go see a doctor to be screened for bipolar disorder


[12-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its part of my autism


[12-Jan-19 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf lmao


[12-Jan-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/nyregion/tsa-shutdown.html

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T.S.A. Agents Refuse to Work During Shutdown, Raising Fears of Air...
Airport security screeners are opting out in rising numbers during the partial shutdown of the government and their absence is starting to put a strain on airports.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/12/nyregion/12airport2/12airport2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[12-Jan-19 09:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://fortune.com/2019/01/11/infowars-lawsuit-alex-jones-sandy-hook-judge/

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Alex Jones and InfoWars Must Hand Over Documents to Sandy Hook Fam...
A judge will rule soon on whether Jones must be deposed, too.
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[12-Jan-19 09:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on B...
The investigation, whose fate is unclear, led counterintelligence investigators to consider an explosive question: whether the president’s actions constituted a possible threat to national security.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/12/us/politics/12fbi-1-print/12fbi-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[12-Jan-19 10:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/684669080/california-jury-agrees-to-strip-trademarked-logo-from-mongols-biker-club?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_c

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California Jury Agrees To Strip Trademarked Logo From Mongols Bike...
The motorcycle club, whose members have a history of violence and drug dealing, considers its trademarked logo central to its identity. Federal prosecutors say the logo is linked to criminality.
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[12-Jan-19 11:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_r0TiIBfeA

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Derek Christian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_r0TiIBfeA
A Conman Named Trump
A man claims he can save the town by building a wall, but he's a conman named Trump! This series of clips from a 1958 TV western is very eerie indeed!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M_r0TiIBfeA/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Jan-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
>banning people from displaying a particular symbol


[12-Jan-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I'm sure that's going to go down *real* well when it hits SCOTUS


[12-Jan-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbis-investigation-of-trump-included-a-counterintelligence-inquiry/2019/01/12/9b8adfb8-166d-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html


[12-Jan-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
Counterintelligence investigations are different from criminal probes, in that their chief purpose is to understand what a foreign adversary like Russia is trying to do to influence American society or counteract U.S. policies, and if any Americans are assisting in those efforts, either knowingly or unwittingly.


[12-Jan-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/2yLPwEa.jpg "Katapult Magazine graphs when Trump is twittering most."

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Trumps Twitterverhalten ist Trump
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[12-Jan-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084153087785349125

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Twitter


[12-Jan-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's still doin it


[12-Jan-19 07:35 PM] Litrojia#0612
Castro just announced to be running for president


[12-Jan-19 07:35 PM] Litrojia#0612
'Tis the season


[12-Jan-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So does no one actually want an open border anymore


[12-Jan-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i want an open border just to spite trump


[12-Jan-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like all he's doing is putting out more and more cringy "let's get this done" videos


[12-Jan-19 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
instead of doing anything actually meaningful


[12-Jan-19 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is posturign at this point


[12-Jan-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may also possibly be under orders from putin to keep it up but that's a theory at this point


[12-Jan-19 08:57 PM] moonatik#3676
i dont believe any of the putin puppet stuff


[12-Jan-19 08:57 PM] moonatik#3676
i hate trump but "russian puppet" is a stretch and a half


[12-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
@moonatik, it was revealed that the investigation since comey was fired was actually a counterintelligence inquiry


[12-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
which means they weren't investigating whether trump's actions were legal or not, but whether trump has been compromised (whether knowingly or not) by a foreign government


[12-Jan-19 09:09 PM] moonatik#3676
well i know there's massive conflicts of interest that could very eaily mean he's been compromised


[12-Jan-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also worships the ground putinw alsk on


[12-Jan-19 09:09 PM] moonatik#3676
saudi arabia is the most obvious example i could find


[12-Jan-19 09:10 PM] moonatik#3676
IIRC trump set up 8 new businesses in SA while he was on the campaign trail


[12-Jan-19 09:10 PM] moonatik#3676
which explains the whole "letting MBS getting away with murder" thing


[12-Jan-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RandyResist/status/1083463907321077761

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Randy #RESISTER (@RandyResist)
https://twitter.com/RandyResist/status/1083463907321077761
From Amy Patrick, an engineer, Wall Expert. 

I’m a licensed structural and civil engineer with a MS in structural engineering from the top program in the nation and over a decade of experience on high-performance projects...
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[12-Jan-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
long chain warning


[12-Jan-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TumR7eTc_-c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TumR7eTc_-c
Why 'Communism' is Important
Remove the word, you remove the message. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Badmouse Twitter: https://twitter.com/BadMouse101 Tip-Jar: https://ko-fi.com/badmou...
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[12-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/guam

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Time in Guam
Guam time now. Guam time zone and map with current time in the largest cities.
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[12-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Sunday


[12-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/dKAg9zNbLf0?t=10

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Bri Bielecki
https://youtu.be/dKAg9zNbLf0?t=10
GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 23
this resonates with my soul
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[12-Jan-19 11:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 23


[12-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
will there ever be a time when anything similar to communism is implemented by sane, benevolent people who don't actually want to take everything away from their people and sell it to other countries


[12-Jan-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe someday


[12-Jan-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not in my lifetime


[12-Jan-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless the technology from scythe gets invented


[12-Jan-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
specifically the anti aging tecnology that resets your age to physicially 20


[12-Jan-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that with a bit of political will, the US could actually have a post-scarcity economy within the decade


[12-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
but that isn't profitable


[12-Jan-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, but will the unity ever be there that soon?


[12-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
like I said, it isn't profitable, so people as a whole would be against it


[12-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
because neoliberalism is all about high GDP without actually caring whether people are benefitting from that high GDP or not


[12-Jan-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, has anyone come up with an actual good idea for implementing socialism or communism without all the "instant corruption, just add capitalism" problems?


[12-Jan-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow

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[12-Jan-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jan-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jan-19 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jan-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jan-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
that's a lot of images, but I don't know who they are lol


[12-Jan-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
T I T O

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[12-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
I managed to find salvador allende


[12-Jan-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like every modern world issue we have today was caused by the CIA


[12-Jan-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Liked: Thomas Sankara of Burkhini Faso: took control in a coup and implemented socialist policies, taking the feudally held land from the tribal chieftains and giving it over to farmers to run as their own. Burkhini Faso became food independent and was able to not take international food aide under his regime and left the International Monetary Fund; on top of that he cut expenditures of government employees and forced high paying ministers to pay into public projects as he himself reduced his personal belongings to a non-working fridge, a guitar, and a motorbike.


[12-Jan-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Burkina Faso has a cool name


[12-Jan-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Means "Land of Upright People"


[12-Jan-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also is a combination of two languages


[12-Jan-19 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
The CNT-FAI were an alliance of Anarcho-Communists and Anarcho-Syndicalists in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War. They collectivized the factories and the farms, allocating ownership to federations of workers who directly worked them. Farmers though who didn't want to participate in the collective farms could stay independent on enough land that they could work themselves; but over time they began drifting into the collectives. Despite later endeavors by the liberal Spanish Republican government to force Anarchist Catalonia to not be Anarchist, the collective farms were notably fast to rebuild when police forces swept through to fuck their shit up.


[12-Jan-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Salvadore Allende was the democratically elected socialist president of Chile who was later overthrown by a CIA supported coup to replace him with Pinochet. Allende's goals were to nationalize industry held by foreign - American - companies so that the mineral and industrial wealth of Chile went to Chileans. Allende's legacy began in peace, but ended in violence, with a legend of Allende's death being that in his final moments he used the AK gifted to him by the Soviets to fight back against Pinochet's forces before he was ultimately captured and brutally beaten with it.


[12-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But muh edgy right wingers and helicopters


[12-Jan-19 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Asian moon rune flag is an Anarchist flag for Korea, during the thirties there was a prominent Anarchist confederacy in north-eastern China and Korea comprising some two-million individuals who put up an effective guerilla resistance to the Chinese and the Japanese. The Korean People's Association in Manchuria as it was called is notable for being left-wing anarchist imposed by former nobility, particularly Kim Chwa-Chin who was a Korean noble-turned Republican and went about putting the whole project together; he also took up the position of being one of their major military leaders, though when he died the whole thing began to fall apart; Maoists I think are blamed for his death.


[12-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, is the thing going on in mordern day catalonia related to communism?


[12-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
the thing with carles puigdemont


[12-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
and the independence referendum declared illegal


[12-Jan-19 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
The EZLN are a major Anarcho-Communist movement in southern Mexico in the Chiapas region that arose as a reaction against NAFTA. Concerned for indigenous rights and the impact globalization would have on the native Economy they went into open revolt against the Mexican government. They're still technically at war with Mexico, because the initial treaty they drafted with Mexico was thrown out by the president at the last minute. Their communities have the economy entirely collectivized though many are notably isolationist; probably because of the current relation with Mexico.


[12-Jan-19 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
The scarred looking dude is Mahkno, a Ukrainian anarchist leader who helped to establish an Anarchist free-state in western Ukraine, ironically in the Donbass region being fought over today. The project was notably short lived due in part to it being rolled over by Trotsky after little over a year's worth of existing; but Lenin was supportive of it as being another initiative to achieve Communism as a state of society. A lot if said about Mahkno and there's very few records to confirm it; but as far as I read it's known he executed anti-semites and murdered the shit out of people who carried out progroms. The biggest stuff that remains from the Ukrainian Free State is Mahkno's use of Tachankas and the guerilla capability of the fighters. When the Free State was suppressed by Trotsky Mahkno limped off to Paris and surrendered to a life as a taxi cab driver before dying of TB.


[12-Jan-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
The last man pictured is Tito, the anti-Stalinist president of Yugoslavia from the end of WW2 to his death in the late 80's/90's. Despite being a communist he was unaligned with the Warsaw Pact or the West. Yugoslavia's socialist economy was directly ran by the workers themselves, who ran the factories and profited from it; they weren't state run enterprises, like as in the USSR.


[13-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
imagine a business being run like a democratic country


[13-Jan-19 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tito was socially light-handed as well compared to the psychopaths that perpetuated the Balkans wars that erupted after his death.


[13-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Honahue#0656
there are Co-op companies like Mondragon


[13-Jan-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
As per Catalonia today: no the referendum isn't communist as it was in the thirties. The CNT and FAI unions as well have been relatively silent on the matter as well.


[13-Jan-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue New Belgium brewing company is also a worker's co-op. So if you drink Fat Tire you're drinking commie beer.


[13-Jan-19 12:02 AM] Honahue#0656
but anecdotally a guy I follow on Twitter is trying to set up a co-op game studio and US laws are written around the idea of capitalism so it's bureaucratically difficult to start one


[13-Jan-19 12:02 AM] Honahue#0656
not impossible, also Fat Tire is prett good


[13-Jan-19 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
The studio behind the game Dead Cells is also a cooperative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Twin

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Motion Twin is an independent studio specializing in online video games. Founded in 2001, the company is a worker cooperative enterprise based in Bordeaux, France.


[13-Jan-19 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX4cGcwmdsY

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Dead Cells - Animated Trailer
Kill, die, learn, and repeat in Dead Cells when it launches on Steam, GOG, Switch, PS4, Xbox One, and the Humble Store on August 7. The First 21 Minutes of D...
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[13-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah in France though


[13-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
how well do cooperatives perform compared to corporations economically?


[13-Jan-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Depends. Richard Wolff in one lecture of his I listened to suggested that weekly half the work force of the company could get together to make decisions on a Friday.


[13-Jan-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Larger operations like the factories in civil war Catalonia could democratically elect delegates who would make decisions at an administrative level and be recalled if need be.


[13-Jan-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Delegates were also important to Catalonia's economic federation in a broad congress of sorts.


[13-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
that's exactly what I was thinking of when I said "imagine a business being run like a democratic country"


[13-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
electing people to run the business instead of just everyone running it


[13-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
too bad it would also have its own politics and eventually lead to the same problem that the US currently has


[13-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
iirc the roman republic was having a lot of problems near the end with corruption as well


[13-Jan-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know about that. A lot of the politics in the US is because of private interests paying into the parties to get certain things done vs actual dialog between individuals at a broader level.


[13-Jan-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a competitive system between the parties where the winner gets control and resources, social capital in a way. Not a cooperative system where you bring in ideas to set a mostly agreeable course.


[13-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Honahue#0656
the nice thing about businesses though is they never get to the same size as countries as far as employees


[13-Jan-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the notion behind a worker's coop if even in a federal style of governance is if the delegate gets too full of himself he or she can be revoked and replaced.


[13-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
part of the reason you can play politics is because there's so many people you can distance yourself from them effectively


[13-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
that's less true in a smaller society


[13-Jan-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's one of the things the founding fathers didn't account for, the fact that all of congress might be compromised


[13-Jan-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Not to mention that since you're so close to everyone else at the company in geometric space as opposed to national politics, there wouldn't be too much inter-personal alienation as in the subdivision for instance where a massive yard separates two voters so they don't talk.


[13-Jan-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
they were so worried about a single corrupt person gaining control that they didn't consider the idea that the whole system itself might be corrupted


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow No, they knew. Hamilton and Jefferson both knew how politics worked. George Washington was the innocent one that didn't even knew it would happen as a course of reality.


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
I forget the exact numbers but if the US government now was to have the same population to rep ratio as when the country was started Congress would be like 10,000 strong


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
like the shutdown right now is as much mcconnell's fault as it is trump's


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
America with China-sized Congress when


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's a supermajority in the senate to re-open the government


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
but mcconnell is blocking all attempts to vote on it


[13-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
without trump's approval


[13-Jan-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
also Godel when he became a US citizen said there was a logical error in the constitution that would allow for the US to become a dictatorship but he never explained why because Einstien advised him to keep that to himself when he went to the citizenship board


[13-Jan-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think the concept of "senate majority/minority leader" existed when the US was founded


[13-Jan-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
the only named leader in the constitution for congress was the speaker of the house


[13-Jan-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Imagine being a democracy built by drunk libertarians searching for a way to look after their class interests as middle class merchants and lawyers of pseudo-aristocratic slave owners with massive estates.


[13-Jan-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think the upper house was meant to have a leader


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
The upper house was meant explicitly for old power.


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
the states


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
It wasn't ever meant to be for the people.


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
the upper house represents the states


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
And thus the senate should be drowned.


[13-Jan-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
the lower house represents the people


[13-Jan-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
since at the time, states were basically loosely affiliated countries, it was only after the gettysburg address that people started referring to the US as a whole as their country instead of thinking of themselves as belonging to their state


[13-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
and of course the north never got the chance to break the south out of the mindset of being its own country


[13-Jan-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6wbUT5QNo

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Socialism Or Barbarism!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6wbUT5QNo
The Civil War Was America's 1848 Revolution
In response to allegations of "destroying our history," regarding calls to remove monuments to Confederate officers, I decided to make this video to demonstr...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xM6wbUT5QNo/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but states were just mini fiefdoms too it's not like the people were ever getting represented it was initially land owners and usually if not always white ones


[13-Jan-19 12:17 AM] Honahue#0656
the Senate represents the states richest land owners and the house of Reps represents the rest of the land owners


[13-Jan-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
We should bring back the zouaves.


[13-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
obligatory ww1 war loli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdAM3WM_n8

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Melodic Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbdAM3WM_n8
幼女戦記 OP / Youjo Senki opening Full『MYTH & ROID - JINGO J...
TVアニメ「幼女戦記」オープニングテーマ MYTH & ROID「JINGO JUNGLE」OP / opening Full - EP - English, Japanese, Chinese, French, Spanish (Latin America) & German Subtitles Youjo S...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xbdAM3WM_n8/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
I can't not think of this song (jingo jungle)


[13-Jan-19 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Petition to form a left-wing activism group like the shitty alt-right ones named after a Civil War Zouave unit


[13-Jan-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/7rrony/youjo_senki_elements_from_world_war_i_and_ii/

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r/anime - Youjo Senki - Elements from World War I and II (Youjo Se...
217 votes and 37 comments so far on Reddit
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[13-Jan-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
I always thought it was kind of funny that communism was exported from germany to russia, and fascism was exported from italy to germany


[13-Jan-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminded Mikhail Bakunin, a socialist anarchist, was a Russian slav-boye.


[13-Jan-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I think Das Capital was written by Marx with an eye on some developments in Russia, but not only Russia but elsewhere. All three volumes of Capital is an economic critique of various places; Russia was one.


[13-Jan-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Marx didn't live his whole life in Germany anyways. After the '48 revolution I think he was exiled from Germany and ended up in France, then from France to England where he wrote the far better commie book, Das Capital.


[13-Jan-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of the references and cited studies in Capital are from British sources, lol


[13-Jan-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's basically English economics with German dialectics


[13-Jan-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
I just had a thought, the CIA uprooting democratically elected leftist governments actually has a lot of parallels with the catholic church's oppression during the middle ages


[13-Jan-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzzFK_ZAAs

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Art House Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzzFK_ZAAs
Mr. Video Games - Meme King of 2019
Support us on patreon: http://patreon.com/ArtHousePolitics Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArtHousePtx Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arthousepolitics/
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[13-Jan-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the CIA is still doing that shit


[13-Jan-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like people just stopped reporting on the CIA and NSA doing all that spying shit


[13-Jan-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
that was one of the things that trump claimed he would get rid of, the spying without warrants


[13-Jan-19 12:50 AM] SunnySide#9595
I think the xbox one whatever the fuck still is probably with nasa spy shit


[13-Jan-19 12:50 AM] SunnySide#9595
Then again, phones too


[13-Jan-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Probably because with the Mueller investigation the intelligence apparatus has become infallible now they're looking into the president.


[13-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think a president should be able to criticize things like Trump does


[13-Jan-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
I understand criticizing people in situations where you have a somewhat reasonable assumption of privacy


[13-Jan-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
but not openly criticizing people/businesses/etc in public without consideration of the political ramifications of your words


[13-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
like treat your words as if they are bullets and your mouth a gun


[13-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/6p3yj6/cmv_capitalism_is_an_immoral_system/

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r/changemyview - CMV: Capitalism is an immoral system
17 votes and 78 comments so far on Reddit


[13-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[13-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
these responses


[13-Jan-19 01:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think he should say whatever he wants. The problem is that a good chunk of his audience lacks critical thinking to understand that what he says is bullshit.


[13-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
>I mean, you're missing the point that capitalism is, at its core, consensual.


[13-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
>consensual


[13-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
>the only choice


[13-Jan-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[13-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
either you participate in capitalism, or you die


[13-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's not fucking consensual lol


[13-Jan-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
this is the same sort of logic that rapists use to justify raping people


[13-Jan-19 01:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He came. its ok.


[13-Jan-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-homophobic-remarks_us_5c3a6030e4b01c93e00a5952

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-homophobic-remarks_us_5c3a6030e4b01c93e00a5952
Tulsi Gabbard’s Homophobic Remarks Surface After 2020 Presidenti...
The Hawaii Democrat's previous stance on same-sex marriage has come back to haunt her after she announced her bid for the White House.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c3a7e392500003600c589ad.jpeg?cache=km5b1mcjxt&ops=1910_1000


[13-Jan-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
given that even I knew about that, it's no wonder that the republicans are instantly attempting to attack her about this


[13-Jan-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
even though she always voted for gay and transgender rights


[13-Jan-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/yellow-vest-protests-hit-with-police-water-cannon-tear-gas-in-paris-idUSKCN1P60GX

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Yellow vest protests hit with police water cannon, tear gas in Paris
Paris police fired water cannon and tear gas to push back "yellow vest"...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190112&t=2&i=1344963924&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0B0CD


[13-Jan-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, is there any developed country you feel would be good to live in to avoid neoliberalism? it seems like all the countries which claim to be socialist/communist are totalitarian dictatorships


[13-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18391757

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18391757
Instant runoff voting is the system we need
Hacker News


[13-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
> I'm continually upset and confused by Instant runoff voting's popularity. IRV is, by my reckoning, a much inferior (and more complicated) system than other systems, like range voting or ranked pairs. And it has some bizarre properties that make me wonder if it is even worse than the traditional first-past-the-post.


[13-Jan-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[13-Jan-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gritpost.com/7-republicans-back-pay-workers/

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Here Are the Names of the 7 Republicans Who Voted No to Back Pay f...
The House of Representatives recently passed a bill to make sure the approximately 800,000 federal employees out of work will get back pay for shutdown.
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[13-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
damn, these guys are gonna get buttfucked when they're up for re-election


[13-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
as they should be


[13-Jan-19 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Reps. Justin Amash (R-Michigan), Andy Biggs (R-Arizona), Paul Gosar (R-Arizona), Glenn Grothman (R-Wisconsin), Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky), Chip Roy (R-Texas), and Ted Yoho (R-Florida) were the only votes in opposition to the bill.


[13-Jan-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of surprised mitch mcconell isnt on there


[13-Jan-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess he can do oen thign right


[13-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
mcconnell only does votes when the president says he'll pass what they're voting on


[13-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
if trump doesn't agree to it, mcconnell won't even let it be brought up for a vote


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-has-concealed-details-of-his-face-to-face-encounters-with-putin-from-senior-officials-in-administration/2019/01/12/65f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
"President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said."


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Mikey#7286
he's a bitch


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
"Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson."


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
"The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries."


[13-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
"As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference."


[13-Jan-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
as more and more early details start emerging from what's looking to be the end of the investigation, it's starting to look more and more like trump is actually a willing, if very inept agent for russia


[13-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
this is 100% not a loyal president's behavior


[13-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
nope


[13-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Mikey#7286
honestly trump probably won't be re-elected


[13-Jan-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nerp


[13-Jan-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate IRV because their entire current existence is predicated on moderates reverting to the mean of seeing both parties as equally bad


[13-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there are more options, people start voting in a way that puts moderates in place


[13-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and moderates are Democrats right now...


[13-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you know what "range voting" and "ranked pairs" are?


[13-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Score_voting

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Score voting
Score voting or range voting is an electoral system for single-seat elections, in which voters give each candidate a score, the scores are added (or averaged), and the candidate with the highest total is elected. It has been described by various other names including evaluati...


[13-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
apparently that's "range voting"


[13-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Score is a much better word


[13-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cardinal voting is generally the best btw


[13-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
ranked pairs I think is trying to get at the condorcet criterion directly


[13-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
however, there's actual math showing you can't meet all the good criteria...


[13-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_pairs

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Ranked pairs
Ranked pairs (RP) or the Tideman method is an electoral system developed in 1987 by Nicolaus Tideman that selects a single winner using votes that express preferences. RP can also be used to create a sorted list of winners.
If there is a candidate who is preferred over the ot...


[13-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
>If there is a candidate who is preferred over the other candidates, when compared in turn with each of the others, RP guarantees that candidate will win. Because of this property, RP is, by definition, a Condorcet method.


[13-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
so what's the difference between score voting and cardinal voting?


[13-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_voting

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Cardinal voting
Cardinal voting refers to any electoral system which allows the voter to give each candidate an independent rating or grade.  These are also referred to as "rated" (Ratings ballot), "evaluative", "graded", or "absolute" voting systems. Cardinal methods (based on  cardinal uti...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Rated_voting.png


[13-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
aparently score voting is a type of cardinal voting


[13-Jan-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
none of these seem less complicated than IRV


[13-Jan-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/horowitz-wray-testify-trump-claim-about-doj-clinton-fbi-report-wrong-2018-6

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DOJ officials struck down Trump's biggest claim about the inspecto...
President Donald Trump's main talking point about a recently released report about the FBI's handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation is that it "exonerates" him in the Russia investigation. Department of Justice officials disagree.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b23f3a51ae66247008b5236-1920-960.jpg


[13-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Borda voting isn't complicated...but


[13-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't giv you a majority, essentially


[13-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which makes it *feel* illegitimate


[13-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
unlike IRV's manufactured majority


[13-Jan-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and plurality's "this is usually a majority if we only let three people run at all!"


[13-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-decides-strip-mongols-biker-gang-trademark-logo-n958036

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Jury strips Mongols biker gang of trademark logo
The first-of-its-kind verdict caps an unusual decade-long quest by prosecutors to dismantle the Mongols by seizing control of its trademark.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_44/2624366/181030-mongols-motorcycle-gang-ew-1230p_3acbd449db9e2c4e216fbfd1c867c831.1200;630;7;70;5.jpg


[13-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
"The forfeiture still needs to be approved by a federal judge and the practical effect of such an order was not immediately clear. When prosecutors announced the charges in 2008 they said a forfeiture order would allow any law enforcement officer to stop a gang member and "literally take the jacket right off his back," according to court papers."


[13-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
lol, if this is approved, it will cause so many headaches for other trademark holders


[13-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's effectively saying that the government can seize any trademark at will


[13-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worse than that


[13-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying they can't wear the logo


[13-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a massive 1st amendment violation


[13-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the "that's a gang sign" mentality of schools, but applied to adults


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
and the support they've received makes the whole case seem like a massive incident of "guilt by association"


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
>future where you can be arrested for putting Pepe on your hat


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
Yanny, who is challenging the convictions, argued at trial that the organization was a club, not a gang, that didn't tolerate criminal activity. He said the government targeted the group because of its large Mexican-American population and turned the crimes of some into a "group conviction."


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
In November, former pro wrestler and Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura testified for the defense, denying the Mongols were a criminal gang. Ventura said he neither committed crimes nor was told to do so when he was a Mongol in the 1970s.


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
>former pro wrestler and Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
what a world we live in


[13-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big thing is


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
>former biker gang member, pro wrestler, and Minnesota Gov.


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it has no set hierarchy


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and anyone can join pretty much


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a club, not a gang


[13-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would be like arresting people for being in Anonymous


[13-Jan-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@BernieSanders/2019-cd23d3039335

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2019 – Bernie Sanders – Medium
Jane and I want to take this opportunity to wish you and yours a very healthy and happy new year.


[13-Jan-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/61ilZPW.png

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[13-Jan-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
trump has been living his whole life at the peak


[13-Jan-19 02:28 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
I wonder if president celestia would want a wall? MLP displays a trust in government Trump just doesn't display


[13-Jan-19 04:37 PM] Honahue#0656
Celestia has 1000 years of political experience too, even if she was a despot she knows how to play a crowd


[13-Jan-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
equestrias government is also a completely different structure as well


[13-Jan-19 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
the wall would be bucked down by earth ponies, blasted away by unicorns, and just flown over by pegasi


[13-Jan-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.apnews.com/c7924a64199e46da88488d5a0fe8c7bc

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Beef-friendly Nebraska eyes regulations on the word 'meat'
LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — More than four months after Missouri became the first U.S. state to regulate the term "meat" on product labels, Nebraska's powerful farm groups are pushing for similar protection from veggie burgers, tofu dogs and other items that look and taste like re...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:094e933e171340b3885418beee4a51d0/3000.jpeg


[13-Jan-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
Nebraska lawmakers will consider a bill this year to prevent companies that package and sell food from advertising plant-based, insect-based and lab-grown products as meat. Similar measures are pending in Tennessee, Virginia and Wyoming.


[13-Jan-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Jan-19 08:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs

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Jimmy Kimmel Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQruDaf7bKs
Trump’s 2,000 Lies – A Documentary
Donald Trump reached a major milestone according to the Washington Post by telling his two-thousandth lie since taking office. Telling two thousand lies is a...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qQruDaf7bKs/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mashable.com/article/donald-trump-white-house-lie/

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https://mashable.com/article/donald-trump-white-house-lie/
Trump blatantly lies about time in the White House, confuses everyone
That's not even a good lie.
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[13-Jan-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He claims he didnt leave the white house atall during this government shut down while also bragging about having gone to texas to visit the wall and going to iraq to visit the troops


[13-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
What?


[13-Jan-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
How the fuck can you be so dense?


[13-Jan-19 08:19 PM] Mikey#7286
So I guess that guy at the border was a clone huh?


[13-Jan-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m just waiting for him to lie about not beign the president


[13-Jan-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I never said I was the president, I never ran for that, It wasnt me, beleive me"


[13-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[13-Jan-19 08:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://external-preview.redd.it/T7nkdRNpprVHnbBanuvAW72HSc9krIEge7aLmOEuUSw.jpg?auto=webp&s=4771863246f59bfa5588debe4db0f2a891d5f9b8

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[13-Jan-19 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
https://qz.com/1355725/omarosas-book-unhinged-suggests-trump-has-dementia-or-alzheimers-disease/

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Omarosa’s book raises new questions about Trump, dementia, and A...
Trump's memory is failing, he's irritable, and prone to fits of rage, the former White House staffer writes.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/RTS1WWDP1-e1534268378946.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[13-Jan-19 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/QurCB1lCHp0

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rubatirabbit
https://youtu.be/QurCB1lCHp0
Why there are No Genuine Local Democracies in the West
From Yes, Prime Minister
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QurCB1lCHp0/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
sometimes I wonder if trump purposefully acts like he has dementia in order to turn around and say "HA, I'M PERFECTLY FINE"


[13-Jan-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't have dementia, I am a perfectly healthy dementia riddled genious, There is no dementia here, beleive me


[13-Jan-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/IKCcHHy.jpg

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[13-Jan-19 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah who we fucked over and stole land from


[13-Jan-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's reform the Cheyenne nation and give them all machine guns and jets.


[13-Jan-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or Comanche rather


[13-Jan-19 10:17 PM] SunnySide#9595
Clearly america should murder all of its natives so americans can get their country bacck


[13-Jan-19 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
RAISE THE COMANCHE MOON, LET TEXAS KNOW TERROR AGAIN


[13-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Mikey#7286
And the natives weren't even native either


[13-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Mikey#7286
They came from across the Bering Strait


[13-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Mikey#7286
And South America


[13-Jan-19 10:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Send all of humanity back to Africa


[13-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[13-Jan-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
And now: former capitalist libertarian turned AnarchoCommunist explains how to organize. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ECvhUXUkY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ECvhUXUkY
Anarchist Organization Methodology and YOU! | Communist Quick-Star...
Welcome to the exciting world of Anarchist Revolution! This series of training videos will prepare you for global liberation of humanity. Resources: Security...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/54ECvhUXUkY/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
not sure if this video is a joke or not lol


[13-Jan-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's serious topical stuff in the framework of shitty corporate infovideos. It's a subversion of the format of WalMart anti-Union material to promote basically that: worker unions and political control.


[13-Jan-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/health/james-watson-honors-stripped-intl/index.html

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DNA pioneer stripped of honors over 'reprehensible' race comments
A Nobel Prize-winning American scientist who co-discovered DNA has been stripped of his honorary titles at the laboratory he once led after repeating racist comments in a documentary.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130628133837-james-watson-dna-story-top.jpg


[13-Jan-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was like "what the fruck, why?" and thne i read the article and he;s a little nuts...


[13-Jan-19 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Right wingers are probably frustrated. Because how dare anyone violate their philosophy of biological determinism.


[13-Jan-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he stole his findings... what evne the fuck


[13-Jan-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the guy who was on LSD


[13-Jan-19 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which is not even pointing out that no one can particularly agree on what IQ is or what we're testing for when we test for it, let alone how to. Is it pattern recognition? Is it a specific mental trait that we're looking for? A composition of mental and behavioral traits?


[13-Jan-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IQ is arbitrary


[13-Jan-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's been shown that if you take someone with lower IQ, let them live among and interact with a group of higher IQ, the person with lower IQ will suddenly have a higher IQ after a few weeks


[13-Jan-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's also been shown people in times of economic hardship will also score lower on IQ tests than when they're in a time of economic plenty.


[13-Jan-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I've never been quite clear on what people mean when the say IQ, I always just assumed it was base learning capacity that could be improved


[13-Jan-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
That experiment was ran on sugar cane farmers I think in India.


[13-Jan-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Post-harvest they did really well at tests. But when they ran out of funds from the harvest and came into the lean season they scored lower.


[13-Jan-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think the average difference on the scores from the test the study used was about twenty points throughout the year.


[13-Jan-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know stress and lakc of sleep can effect iq


[13-Jan-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
like the only time that IQ has any real statistical meaning is if there's someone way above or way below the median


[13-Jan-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
that's why anything below 70 is considered mentally impaired, and anything above 130 is considered genius


[13-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
anything between that can be affected by a person's personal situation


[13-Jan-19 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
The physical environment can also have an impact. A lot of black people live in sub-standard housing that more often than not still uses lead in the plumbing or the paint in general. As a factor they're exposed to far more lead than wealthier counterparts. Historically lead has been known to negatively effect behavior and learning capacity from how it damages the brain, particularly at a young age.


[13-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't give a shit about why people say this.


[13-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I care what they fucking want the effect to be


[13-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Assuming their assertion is true, what is the goal?


[13-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I assume genocide of dumb people


[13-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you just want to kill all black people because you dislike them just say it and stop with the science shit


[13-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
the science shit is done to try and give their opinion legitimacy


[13-Jan-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny how people both simultaneously try to validate their shitty opinions by claiming that science agrees with them while also trying to drag science down and say it's no better than religion


[13-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Science is _way_ better than religion lol


[13-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
also


[13-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
"People who boast about their IQ are losers" as Stephen Hawking said and he's right


[13-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-macron/with-2300-word-letter-macron-launches-debate-to-quell-yellow-vest-unrest-idUSKCN1P70SG

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With 2,300-word letter, Macron launches debate to quell 'yellow...
President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday kicked off a three-month national debate he ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190113&t=2&i=1345375157&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0C0P7


[13-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
But Macron said he would remain faithful to his campaign manifesto, and appeared to rule out rolling back some of the pro-business economic reforms, such as scrapping a wealth tax, which have earned him the nickname “president of the rich”.


[14-Jan-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are IQ tests just a bunch of college level subject questions?


[14-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
no


[14-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
IQ tests basically give visual puzzles to solve


[14-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
at least, the best ones


[14-Jan-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[14-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
there's different quality in IQ tests


[14-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
the IQ test considered the best is the US military's ASVAB test


[14-Jan-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically macron wants a posturing debate that solves nothing and ultimately results in peace while he goes back to fuckign people over?


[14-Jan-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... good luck with that


[14-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/international/425109-iran-moving-toward-enriching-nuclear-fuel

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Iran moving toward enriching nuclear fuel, top official says
Iran's nuclear chief reportedly said Sunday that Tehran has launched “preliminary activities for designing” uranium fuel with a purity of 20 percent, a move that would be at odds with the 2015 nuclear deal.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/rouhani_hassan_01042019.jpg


[14-Jan-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you mean the nuclear deal that trump backed out of?


[14-Jan-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
am i remembering that wrong?


[14-Jan-19 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Make it look like you're disarming North Korea, yet do fuck all about Iran.*


[14-Jan-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610

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[14-Jan-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46856149

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May: No Brexit more likely than no deal
The PM says not leaving the EU is a possibility if MPs reject her deal in a Commons vote on Tuesday.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/15758/production/_105169878_mediaitem105169675.jpg


[14-Jan-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I love how the BBC considers terrorists "militants" or "activists", unless they've ever done anything in the UK


[14-Jan-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Group massacres 200 in some /continental/ country? They're "political activists"


[14-Jan-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jan-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One man stabs another in Lower Gloxtdumbery? Terrorist


[14-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless of course said activist/militant happens to kill a briton overseas


[14-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THEN they become a terrorist organization


[14-Jan-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
one thing that trump supporters do is claim that every awful thing trump says is actually some sort of witty, subtle joke that nobody gets


[14-Jan-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
and uses that as an excuse to belittle detractors as stupid or hard-asses


[14-Jan-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they are the rick and morty fan base?


[14-Jan-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheContemptor/status/1084273127448870914

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Contemptor (@TheContemptor)
https://twitter.com/TheContemptor/status/1084273127448870914
Donald Trump: "I haven't actually left the White House in months." https://t.co/j349IDPVNu
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1084273016580857856/pu/img/eNqDI7oUil1E-p5_.jpg
Twitter


[14-Jan-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like someone's muttering in exasperation of having to listen to him ramble on


[14-Jan-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh so i suppose it was a sophisticated trump robot at the texas border


[14-Jan-19 03:30 AM] Mikey#7286
wow


[14-Jan-19 03:30 AM] Mikey#7286
and Fox News says nothing about his lie


[14-Jan-19 03:30 AM] Mikey#7286
they don't ask "weren't you just in texas?"


[14-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Mikey#7286
they just say "you do your work"


[14-Jan-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YqDUBTF

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Franklin Davis, a homeless Vietnam veteran, sweeps the Vietnam Veterans Memorial during the government shutdown:
https://i.imgur.com/Omen1Thh.jpg


[14-Jan-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
this is what america is proud of


[14-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/afbq03/franklin_davis_a_homeless_vietnam_veteran_sweeps/>


[14-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/x9gmLQC.jpg

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Sometimes we just crave stability
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[14-Jan-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jan-19 10:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jan-19 11:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:roflanPominki:


[14-Jan-19 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/man-behind-build-the-wall-gofundme-brian-kolfage-creates-email-harvesting-operation-2019-1

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Man behind 'Build the Wall' GoFundMe has reportedly made a potenti...
Brian Kolfage, the man who started a GoFundMe to raise money for the border wall, has reportedly been running a shadowy email-harvesting operation.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c3922202a5b747c32320cc5-1536-768.jpg


[14-Jan-19 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the border wall gofundme may have doubled as both a money funnel scam and an email harvest


[14-Jan-19 11:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the guy running it has a history of scamming folk


[14-Jan-19 11:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only one of these ventures really succeeded since gofundme forced the money into automatic refunds


[14-Jan-19 11:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
But not like the people who donated aren't totally unfamiliar... https://youtu.be/YGbnAJR-vZA

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https://youtu.be/YGbnAJR-vZA
The Sarkeesian Effect: IN CRISIS!
My Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/hbomb My Twitter: https://twitter.com/hbomberguy My Tumblr: http://hbomberguy.tumblr.com/ The leaked skype logs where Auri...
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[14-Jan-19 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who that is


[14-Jan-19 11:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Some alt-right film-maker who tried to make documentaries on Anita Sarkesian and Ubisoft and both times never did, but since he went through GoFundMe he kept the money.


[14-Jan-19 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[14-Jan-19 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve seen so many documentaRY scams in the last few years


[14-Jan-19 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"donate money and expensive video games to me so i cna make a documentayr on how video games are sexist and racist"


[14-Jan-19 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne the documentary itself is just 2 hours of trying to look at batman;s ass thorugh his cape


[14-Jan-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it waas also the batman game where later you get the batman beyond suit which is just liek full ass, but the documentary never got to that point


[14-Jan-19 02:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Guinness World Records: Trump Edition
With classics like:
- Most lies per day
- Most family-related coworkers
- Most people let go during presidency
Now with: longest shutdown
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[14-Jan-19 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46866941

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China sentences Canadian man to death
Robert Lloyd Schellenberg's initial 15-year term for drug smuggling was too lenient, a court ruled.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/17D29/production/_105177579_485251e7-3aed-4257-a17e-7721d93b3fa0.jpg


[14-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the classic "other country did something you don't like? Just kill some of their citizens"


[14-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
As far as the BBC calling people "activists", this has to do with the fact places like China and Turkey like to lump together radical islam with "blogged about human rights"


[14-Jan-19 05:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with people facing literally the same terrorism charges whether they tried to blow up a school or they said that the gov't should stop killing people.


[14-Jan-19 05:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you end up with cases where all someone *did* was blogged about human rights, but they're facing charges technically because they joined up with an organization whose idea of political reform is to blow up gov't buildings.


[14-Jan-19 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And blogging was them being really dumb and getting attention put on themselves.


[14-Jan-19 05:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do keep in mind that in Turkey, the gov't's official policy on Kurds is basically that they can't hav political representation, and for a time they had an exception where if the Kurds did get a few people in the legislature, those people could shout all they wanted about how the gov't is bad, but none of the average citizenry could. That has since been revoked to quell the dissent entirely rather than try to vent it off, and while the KPP isn't no angel, it's kind of the only alternative to bending over for Erdogan for a Kurd.


[14-Jan-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
When "voting third party" and "being part of a terrorist organization" are the same thing, it gets real hard to distinguish the actual terrorists.


[14-Jan-19 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, on a semantic note


[14-Jan-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
"militant" and "terrorist" do not mean the same thing and using the latter in journalism is much trikkier.


[14-Jan-19 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Terrorism is a criminal/military activity, and a terrorist *may* be one who does it, or may be one who helps do it, or may be one who signed up for an organization that does it...


[14-Jan-19 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
A militant is someone who does military action for a group. That is a much clearer thing.


[14-Jan-19 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And finally, what do we call people when they use riots to secure political change instead of peaceful protests or bombs? "Activist" means something there, and "terrorist" may be woefully unclear again.


[14-Jan-19 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nebbie, BBC is happy to call the italian Red Brigade or basque ETA anything /but/ terrorists


[14-Jan-19 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bombed a store and killed dozens of civilans? Not terrorism


[14-Jan-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kidnapped a low level politician and shot him in the head on camera and swore to kill more? Not terrorism


[14-Jan-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless it's the IRA


[14-Jan-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
THEN it's terrorism


[14-Jan-19 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/14/684695273/report-americans-are-now-more-likely-to-die-of-an-opioid-overdose-than-on-the-ro

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Report: Americans Are Now More Likely To Die Of An Opioid Overdose...
Americans now have a 1 in 96 chance of dying from an opioid overdose, according to new analysis from the National Safety Council.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/01/11/gettyimages-467450445_wide-5d324bc6464c86167aa77a03c97bf9090533d18e.jpg?s=1400


[14-Jan-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Red Brigade hasn't done anything in like 30 years tho, hav they?


[14-Jan-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or is this like, former Red Brigade members = "activists", former IRA members = "terrorists"?


[14-Jan-19 08:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The US should go on general strike for not paying 800,000 employees


[14-Jan-19 08:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It would wake up trump to restart the goverment


[14-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
trump doesn't care unless his own employees go on strike too


[14-Jan-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;lt think trump really cares how well the country is operatign as long aas his circle jerk doesnt get disturbed


[14-Jan-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he may be trying to get those government employees to strike


[14-Jan-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would leave a lot of important positions and security down in favor of the kremlin


[14-Jan-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/14/iowa-legislature-state-constitution-gun-rights-amendment-2nd-amendment-firearms-coalition-paul-pate/2567619002/

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Iowa gun rights amendment is back to square one after 'bureaucrati...
The mistake means the proposed amendment can't be placed on the ballot until 2022 at the earliest and throws the future of the measure in doubt.
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[14-Jan-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/mueller-report-trump-helped-putin-destabilize-us-watergate-journalist-1289541?amp=1

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Mueller draft report says Trump "helped Putin destabilize the Unit...
“This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, ‘Oh, my God, the president’s words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn," Carl Bernstein said.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/01/13/gettyimages-1000211982.jpg


[14-Jan-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/congress-now-interested-other-trump-tower-once-planned-russia-n954801

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Congress now eyeing the other Trump Tower once planned for Russia
Two Congressional aides told NBC News Trump's proposed Moscow development with Aras Agalarov is drawing new scrutiny from House and Senate investigators.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_38/2575701/180922-donald-trump-2013-miss-universe-moscow-ew-322p_50e1db883fb223ed4b44e239d799ad74.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[14-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jan-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-94STO1-D5Q

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E N L I G H T E N E D C E N T R I S M
Thought I'd take a shot at YouTube stuff. I'm new to video editing/audio editing/scriptwriting, but let's not let that get in between us and hating centrists...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-94STO1-D5Q/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Jan-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmuSV1H8v_M

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmuSV1H8v_M
Can the Left Learn to Meme?
Mike Watson asks whether live streaming is making us stupid or making us smart in this video released in anticipation of his upcoming book “Can the Left Lear...
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[14-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
I don't understand where the "left can't meme" meme came from


[14-Jan-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Professor Mike Watson, in promotion of his new book on Zero Books, takes a look at meme and streamer culture through the lens of Adorno's and Horkheimer's media analysis


[15-Jan-19 12:20 AM] Honahue#0656
>Adorno talking about memes
>Gets worked up and starts shit talking jazz
>All memes Adorno doesn't like are compared to jazz


[15-Jan-19 12:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Adorno would hate Whiplash and for completely different reasons than anyone with a music background


[15-Jan-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Jan-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Do JEB! proud or be a bootlicker


[15-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-activist-laura-loomer-nancy-pelosi-house-1291083

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Right-wing activist Laura Loomer reportedly jumps fence at Nancy P...
Loomer was kicked off Twitter in November 2018 after criticizing U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar of Minnesota.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/01/14/gettyimages-1052640166.jpg


[15-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Breaking: Laura is a moron


[15-Jan-19 01:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
She went over a wall to protest that America needs a wall


[15-Jan-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/1537768

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#1537768 - adventure in the comments, antifa, artist:darkdoomer, a...
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[15-Jan-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
man, nazis really like to fantasize about violence


[15-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2lQAYj6ucg

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The New York Times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2lQAYj6ucg
How a Gang Hunted and Killed a 15 Year Old in the Bronx | NYT - Vi...
The murder of 15-year-old Lesandro Guzman-Feliz, known as “Junior,” drew outrage from across the city. Our investigation retraces his last steps — and reveal...
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[15-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[15-Jan-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-shutdown-is-giving-some-trump-advisers-what-theyve-long-wanted-a-smaller-government/2019/01/14/70b22348-1427-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html


[15-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
Prominent advisers to the president have forged their political careers in relentless pursuit of a lean federal budget and a reined-in bureaucracy. As a result, they have shown a high tolerance for keeping large swaths of the government dark, services offline and 800,000 federal workers without pay, with the shutdown having entered an unprecedented fourth week.


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/stormy-daniels-lawsuit-columbus/index.html

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Stormy Daniels sues Columbus, Ohio, police over arrest at strip club
Stormy Daniels is suing several members of the Columbus, Ohio, police department's vice unit for civil rights violations over her arrest last year at a strip club in the city.
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[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
"But instead of arresting Daniels for allegedly violating the touching laws after that first instance, two other officers also touched her. Under an Ohio law passed in 2007, an employee who regularly appears nude or seminude at a sexually oriented business is prohibited from touching patrons, except for family members."


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
>an employee who regularly appears nude or seminude at a sexually oriented business is prohibited from touching patrons, except for family members


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
>except for family members


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
>family members


[15-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
what is this, a law for incest?


[15-Jan-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/trump-birth-control-mandate.html

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By MATT STEVENS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/trump-birth-control-mandate.html
Judge Blocks Trump’s Attempt to Roll Back Birth Control Mandate
The preliminary injunction prevents the Trump administration from putting into effect new rules in 13 states and the District of Columbia.
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[15-Jan-19 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want out.

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[15-Jan-19 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1084950931987464192?s=19

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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1084950931987464192?s=19
White House says President Trump "is personally paying for” event with National Champions Clemson tonight "to be catered with some of everyone’s favorite fast foods,” because "much of the residence staff at the White House is furloughed” due to the ongoing governme...
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[15-Jan-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
germany's always looking for more workers


[15-Jan-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
I wish I could go to germany


[15-Jan-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
germany seems sane


[15-Jan-19 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The fanciest meal ever hosted by the potus


[15-Jan-19 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/lmtaber/status/1084953053533417472

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Dying Basilisk (@lmtaber)
https://twitter.com/lmtaber/status/1084953053533417472
@NBCNews Candlelit fast food. This a junior high winter ball.
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[15-Jan-19 02:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What kind of fancy Junior high gets McDonalds, Burger king and Wendy's? Most give kitchen slop.


[15-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's for an american football team that won the championship


[15-Jan-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-14/may-faces-worst-government-defeat-in-95-years-in-key-brexit-vote


[15-Jan-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
Prime Minister Theresa May is set to see her Brexit deal rejected in the biggest Parliamentary defeat for a British government in 95 years after her last minute pleas for support appeared to fall on deaf ears. The battle now is over not whether May loses, but how badly.


[15-Jan-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
At least 70 of her Conservative Party, as well as sometime allies in the Democratic Unionist Party, are publicly pledged to join opposition Members of Parliament in voting against her agreement Tuesday. That would translate into a defeat by a margin of 150 or more, the largest in over a century. Even if some abstain, a defeat by more than 100 would be the worst since 1924.


[15-Jan-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
get rekt


[15-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/two-killed-40-detained-new-gay-purge-chechnya-n958366

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Two killed, 40 detained in new gay purge in Chechnya
The new allegations come after reports in 2017 of more than 100 gay men arrested and subjected to torture, and some of them killed, in the Russian region.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_03/2715136/190114-chechnya-lgbtq-anonymous-cs-1009a_491a1a12c8d4de62f4a6756505719a44.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[15-Jan-19 03:29 AM] Honahue#0656

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[15-Jan-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://gizmodo.com/cops-cant-force-people-to-unlock-their-phones-with-biom-1831743969

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Cops Can't Force People to Unlock Their Phones With Biometrics, Co...
A federal judge in California has ruled that law enforcement can’t compel a suspect to unlock their phone with a fingerprint or face recognition. Combined with a previous court ruling that held police cannot force a suspect to tell them their password, we’re getting some ...
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[15-Jan-19 03:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
*shows phone lock screen to suspect* Is this your phone?/Can you unlock this phone? *phone unlocks with face ID*


[15-Jan-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
then all the information on that phone becomes unusable in court gg


[15-Jan-19 05:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
Gg


[15-Jan-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/bCkPfQ3.jpg

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[15-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
I've tried to argue to people that fear of retribution doesn't prevent crime, you can only make someone so dead and if you're too severe then they have nothing to lose


[15-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/steve-king-white-supremacy.html

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By TRIP GABRIEL, JONATHAN MARTIN and NICHOLAS FANDOS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/steve-king-white-supremacy.html
Steve King Removed from Committee Assignments Over White Supremacy...
Republicans voted Monday night to remove Mr. King from the House Judiciary and Agriculture committees after he made remarks questioning why white supremacy is considered offensive.
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[15-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
how stupid can you get lol


[15-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pMzCFLt

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A couple protesting in NYC in, circa 1940
https://i.imgur.com/SYUo12hh.jpg


[15-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
"Remember when Roosevelt turned away a boat full of refugees from Germany?"


[15-Jan-19 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
"Remember when we said "never again" just to do that to every single group of refugees since then?"


[15-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/PT6KHwb.jpg

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[15-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
"Yeah! fuck free education and actually stopping people going into crippling debt due to student loans! Right?!"


[15-Jan-19 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/534620766663344138/Dw6VfbPX0AMv9Pn.png

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[15-Jan-19 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lincoln gravy boats used for sauces lmao


[15-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/425320-trump-team-turned-down-in-person-interview-with-mueller-report

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Trump team recently turned down in-person interview with Mueller: ...
President Trump's legal team recently denied a request from special counsel Robert Mueller's office for a sit-down interview with the president, CNN reported on Monday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert_trumpdonald_010419getty.jpg


[15-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
hey, stop that, this is my channel >:V


[15-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438412674326331432/534617614601945098


[15-Jan-19 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Qin Shi Huang, more like Dead In The Wagon Work Or Die Wait Why You Overthrowing Me Fuck You Han


[15-Jan-19 12:19 PM] Honahue#0656
Mandate of Heaven time!


[15-Jan-19 12:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
If America had the concept of Mandate of Heaven I can promise you Trump probably would have been burned alive at this point.


[15-Jan-19 12:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
This shutdown is like losing Heaven's mandate to rule.


[15-Jan-19 12:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Shit'd probably be like Yellow Turbans if we weren't so obsessed with being civil about this sort of abuse.


[15-Jan-19 12:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Han dynasty, founded by basically a country cop who lead an insurrection that broiled into a revolution that overthrew the Qin because Qin Shi Huang had everyone on a road project murdered for not finishing it on time because that was the law.


[15-Jan-19 01:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Mandate of Heaven is often compared to Consent of the Governed but people in America are still too comfortable and fractured to do anything. Despite freedom of speech and the internet no one really knows who to organize with


[15-Jan-19 01:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIomt2drHWs&feature=youtu.be&t=34

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Sir Swag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIomt2drHWs&feature=youtu.be&t=34
This week's news without the bullshit
Welcome to this week’s news without the bullshit for the second week of 2019. This week involves more of the US government shutdown, Trump’s FBI investigatio...
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[15-Jan-19 02:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/283522-att-plans-to-fire-7000-people-despite-tax-breaks-net-neutrality-repeal

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Joel Hruska
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/283522-att-plans-to-fire-7000-people-despite-tax-breaks-net-neutrality-repeal
AT&T Plans to Fire 7,000 People Despite Tax Breaks, Net Neutrality...
In 2017, the CEO of AT&T told America that his company would use its $20B tax windfall to invest in America and create American jobs. The company is planning to fire 7,000 people instead.
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/443997-at-t.jpg


[15-Jan-19 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look another corporation laying waste to it;s employee roster


[15-Jan-19 02:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[15-Jan-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Jan-19 02:41 PM] Mikey#7286
1000 hamberders


[15-Jan-19 02:42 PM] Mikey#7286
I served then massive amounts of fast food(I paid)


[15-Jan-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I know you guys want to roast him for that but like


[15-Jan-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
that's one of the least offensive things he's ever done


[15-Jan-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
cut him some slack


[15-Jan-19 02:49 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not offensive no


[15-Jan-19 02:49 PM] Mikey#7286
But it's goddamn hilarious

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[15-Jan-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was nice of him to serve hamberders to a football team


[15-Jan-19 02:51 PM] Mikey#7286
(he paid)


[15-Jan-19 02:51 PM] Mikey#7286
(he ate most of it himself)


[15-Jan-19 02:51 PM] Mikey#7286
(he's also in great health)

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[15-Jan-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just assumed that was his nightly intake and that he chose to share it tonight


[15-Jan-19 02:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahaha


[15-Jan-19 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/opinion/call-out-social-justice.html

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By DAVID BROOKS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/opinion/call-out-social-justice.html
Opinion | The Cruelty of Call-Out Culture
How not to do social change.
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[15-Jan-19 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[15-Jan-19 03:26 PM] moonatik#3676
this picture just screams AMERICA

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[15-Jan-19 03:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Ha ha ha


[15-Jan-19 03:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If your party doesn't look like this, don't invite me ...

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[15-Jan-19 04:52 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Just put a few guns on the wall and you'd be golden


[15-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1084954858254405633?s=19

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Hunter Walker (@hunterw)
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1084954858254405633?s=19
Here’s a video I shot of President Trump showing off his 300 hamburgers. https://t.co/P06S6I5w07
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[15-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Mikey#7286
So how many is it?


[15-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Mikey#7286
300? 1000?


[15-Jan-19 04:54 PM] Mikey#7286
It's amazing how much Trump exaggerates and contradicts himself


[15-Jan-19 04:54 PM] DevField#5162
That's crazy. lol


[15-Jan-19 04:54 PM] Mikey#7286
He says 300 hamburgers and in the tweet he says over 1000 hamberders 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


[15-Jan-19 04:54 PM] DevField#5162
Mikey pls


[15-Jan-19 04:55 PM] Mikey#7286
slp yikeM


[15-Jan-19 04:55 PM] DevField#5162
Everytime you use a joy emoji I die a little inside


[15-Jan-19 04:55 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[15-Jan-19 04:55 PM] Mikey#7286
:NUT:

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[15-Jan-19 04:56 PM] Mikey#7286
I can't help myself :NUT:


[15-Jan-19 04:58 PM] DevField#5162
:trixdisgust:


[15-Jan-19 05:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:StevenXD:


[15-Jan-19 06:39 PM] Pretty#9306
is Wendy's better than McDonalds or Burger King? There is no Wendy's in my country


[15-Jan-19 07:13 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Most people like Wendy's here the most, but I'm mostly better with McDs and BK


[15-Jan-19 07:14 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It helps that McDonalds is the only one within walking distance though


[15-Jan-19 07:21 PM] Pretty#9306
between McDs and BK I choose BK


[15-Jan-19 07:21 PM] Mikey#7286
I prefer Wendy's


[15-Jan-19 07:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Though I'd rather have an actual burger


[15-Jan-19 07:22 PM] Mikey#7286
And thankfully I have Five Guys here


[15-Jan-19 07:22 PM] Mikey#7286
They're amazing


[15-Jan-19 07:23 PM] Pretty#9306
there's five guys here but they are kinda expensive, also I thought it was only a milkshake shop


[15-Jan-19 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah they're pricey


[15-Jan-19 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Like $7 for a Burger


[15-Jan-19 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
But it's worth it imo


[15-Jan-19 07:27 PM] Pretty#9306
yes, here a menu (burger+fries+drink) is $16-17 while on BK I get a whopper menu for $6


[15-Jan-19 07:28 PM] Pretty#9306
just the burger is more expensive than a whole BK menu so it better be good lol (I never tried Five guys)


[15-Jan-19 07:29 PM] Mikey#7286
For two people at FG's


[15-Jan-19 07:29 PM] Mikey#7286
It was around $23 USD, two burgers, two fries, two drinks


[15-Jan-19 07:29 PM] Mikey#7286
But the Burgers are hand made and not frozen


[15-Jan-19 07:30 PM] Pretty#9306
thats cheaper than here


[15-Jan-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Fries are hand cut


[15-Jan-19 07:30 PM] Pretty#9306
yes I know that, I may try it, at some point


[15-Jan-19 07:30 PM] Pretty#9306
(I just read it on a review lol)


[15-Jan-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I think it's worth it, they're very filling too


[15-Jan-19 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Where do you live?


[15-Jan-19 07:32 PM] Pretty#9306
however I can go to a standard non-franchise restaurant and get a handmade burger for like $4, not sure if it will be better thought, probably not


[15-Jan-19 07:32 PM] Pretty#9306
Spain


[15-Jan-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[15-Jan-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Hmm


[15-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
$4 is like 3.5 euro; I think you can get a bigmac for that iirc


[15-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, nop, https://burgerlad.com/mcdonalds-spain-menu-prices/


[15-Jan-19 08:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Prices are different across Europe. €3.65 in Ireland.


[15-Jan-19 08:16 PM] DevField#5162
@PwnyPony Are you up north or? 🤔


[15-Jan-19 08:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
On the border.


[15-Jan-19 08:17 PM] DevField#5162
oof. You've probably seen some stuff.


[15-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/feds-forcing-mass-fingerprint-unlocks-is-an-abuse-of-power-judge-rules/

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Feds forcing mass fingerprint unlocks is an “abuse of power,” ...
"Citizens do not contemplate waiving their civil rights when using new technology."
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/GettyImages-511969932-760x380.jpg


[15-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So apparently at some point, police in some case burst into a house with a warrant to search one suspect


[15-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
then told everyone in the house to unlokk their phones or face jailtime


[15-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
@Pretty https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/534788825667600404
yeah, wendy's is much better than mcdonald's and burger king


[15-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
in terms of burger quality (at least on the west coast), it's in-n-out > wendy's > jack in the box > burger king > mcdonald's


[15-Jan-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Five guys burgers are not worth the price they charge for it


[15-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Mikey#7286
Disagree


[15-Jan-19 08:27 PM] DevField#5162
I think there's a five guys somewhere in town..


[15-Jan-19 08:27 PM] DevField#5162
Should I try it sometime? :twicrazy:


[15-Jan-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
never been to five guys


[15-Jan-19 08:27 PM] Yuri#4154
McDonald's isn't that bad in the UK


[15-Jan-19 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
I've had them twice but I loved them both


[15-Jan-19 08:28 PM] Yuri#4154
The chicken is amazing for example


[15-Jan-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
McDonalds is shit


[15-Jan-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
I can feel my body shutting down as I eat the food


[15-Jan-19 08:28 PM] Yuri#4154
Are you in 🇬🇧 or 🇺🇸?


[15-Jan-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
🇮🇪


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] DevField#5162
:twicrazy:


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] Yuri#4154
Can't speak for 🇮🇪 McDonald's


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] Yuri#4154
But it's great here


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] DevField#5162
It's just so salty and greasy


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
McD's is gross here but uh


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I eat it more than I should


[15-Jan-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean, I don't eat it more than like


[15-Jan-19 08:30 PM] DevField#5162
I used to like Burger King, then they cut all of the portion sizes in half and charged the same amount for it


[15-Jan-19 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Once every month


[15-Jan-19 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Sometimes less


[15-Jan-19 08:30 PM] Yuri#4154
As long as you don't eat it nearly everyday you'll be fine


[15-Jan-19 08:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ireland and UK McDonald's is pretty much the same. Australia too. Standards drop when you go to the US and China though.


[15-Jan-19 08:31 PM] Yuri#4154
I couldn't even if I wanted


[15-Jan-19 08:31 PM] Yuri#4154
Not much moniis


[15-Jan-19 08:31 PM] DevField#5162
I imagine it gets more salty over there :twismug:


[15-Jan-19 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure how to compare Brazilian McD to McD food in other places


[15-Jan-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to watch the GBP tank

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[15-Jan-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
you can trivially make a five guys burger yourself, mikey


[15-Jan-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
just salt and pepper your meat and press it with a trowel or spatula of some sort


[15-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Burgers are one of the easiest foods to make


[15-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God bless


[15-Jan-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
made of otherwise unwanted cow parts


[15-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well I grind the beef myself


[15-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't cost much more, either


[15-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
is there any specific part that ground beef is made from?


[15-Jan-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
I've never actually made ground beef myself, just bought it from the store


[15-Jan-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ground beef as in from stores and the like? The inbetween parts, the pieces not big enough for proper cuts


[15-Jan-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
you can have beef ground from any part of the cow, realistically


[15-Jan-19 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Red beef burger for me. Gray beef is so bland. Premade stuff always has onions too.


[15-Jan-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the preground stuff is junk that didn't make the cut for steaks


[15-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, not tongues or hearts or the like, those sell for a premium


[15-Jan-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
in the US, it's also been irradiated, chlorinated, and sitting uncovered in a fridge for 2-3 weeks


[15-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But face and tail dock and the less meaty parts of legs...


[15-Jan-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
do not buy prepackaged ground meat


[15-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Buy in places that have their own butchery


[15-Jan-19 08:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also rectum.


[15-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can watch them grind the stuff


[15-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno how common that is in the US, though


[15-Jan-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
not common


[15-Jan-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
local groceries may or may not do their own butchering, or may do part of it


[15-Jan-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
giant eagle will


[15-Jan-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
whole foods will


[15-Jan-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
walmart will not


[15-Jan-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
in general though the meat grinder will be in the back where you can't see them do it


[15-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
safeway has its own bakery and seems to also have its own butcher as well


[15-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
which is primarily where I do my shopping


[15-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-bars-trump-administration-from-adding-citizenship-question-to-2020-census/

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Judge bars Trump administration from adding citizenship question t...
Critics believe the Commerce Department's proposal would lead to low response rates among immigrants and distort congressional apportionment to favor the GOP
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[15-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Pretty#9306
In here mcdonalds is slightly cheaper, but their burgers are smaller and less tasty, also the fries feels more paper-like and tastes worse


[15-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Pretty#9306
compared to BK


[15-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] that's what we do here at the time :T


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Buy prepackaged beef


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
where do you buy it?


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
If the answer is walmart you're probably going to get cancer


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
if not you're all right


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/01/15/irans-us-criticized-satellite-launch-failed-to-reach-orbit/

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Iran’s US-criticized satellite launch failed to reach orbit
TEHRAN, Iran — An Iranian satellite-carrying rocket blasted off into space on Tuesday, but scientists failed to put the device into orbit in a launch previously criticized by the United States as h…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/iran-satellite-fail-01.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[15-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[15-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
An Iranian satellite-carrying rocket blasted off into space on Tuesday, but scientists failed to put the device into orbit in a launch previously criticized by the United States as helping the Islamic Republic further develop its ballistic missile program.


[15-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/01/15/zimbabwes-president-raised-fuel-prices-over-gallon-then-jetted-off-russia-deadly-chaos-ensued/


[15-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
what a fucking coward holy shit


[15-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Pretty#9306
for example, these are the weights in spain
McDonalds Big Mac 219gr
McDonads quarter pounder 204gr
BK Whopper ($5) 278gr
BK Steakhouse (its $6.8 menu) 300gr


[15-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
On Sunday, just before taking a private jet on an official trip to Russia (all of the state-owned airline’s planes are grounded), Mnangagwa announced a 140 percent increase in fuel prices, raising the cost to $12.53 a gallon and making Zimbabwe by far the most expensive place to gas up in the world. For many Zimbabweans, it was the last straw. They took to the streets, but in another echo of the Mugabe era, so did security forces, looters and unidentifiable armed men.


[15-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Bought from Walmart a couple times


[15-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Mikey#7286
I think my parents buy from Wegmans and tops though


[15-Jan-19 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] you ever heard of tops and Wegmans?


[15-Jan-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/oqqW9ng

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Definitely not good
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[15-Jan-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/01/13/indiana-gop-legislator-sponsors-bill-to-teach-creationism-in-public-schools/

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Hemant Mehta
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/01/13/indiana-gop-legislator-sponsors-bill-to-teach-creationism-in-public-schools/
Indiana GOP Legislator Sponsors Bill to Teach Creationism in Publi...
He has a history of sponsoring bills that shove Christianity onto the public.
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[15-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol fuck that


[15-Jan-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey nope


[15-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Mikey#7286
They're local then


[15-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Mikey#7286
They're pretty good


[15-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Wegmans more than tops


[15-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/534832142241366027/image0.png

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[15-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Five Guys is good but it’s too pricey to eat there regularly


[15-Jan-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-burgers-mcdonalds-wendys-clemson-tigers-white-house-banquet-government-shutdown-a8728251.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook%3Ca%20data-jafo=

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Trump orders 300 burgers for White House banquet, says he bought 1...
‘I like em all, if it’s American I like, it’s all American stuff, but it’s good stuff,’ US president says of fast food
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[15-Jan-19 09:52 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Especially when there cheaper options that are just as good


[15-Jan-19 09:53 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
From In-N-Out to the local joints


[15-Jan-19 09:53 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Jesus fuck


[15-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Even when it comes to buying fucking fast food he has to lie about it


[15-Jan-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is going to crucify you for only buying 300 burgers man?


[15-Jan-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's enough to feed atleast 2 footbal teams possibly more


[15-Jan-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea how many people are on a football team


[15-Jan-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably less than 20?


[15-Jan-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
11 people


[15-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/ADcFO

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I’m A Senior Trump Official, And I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes O...
archived 15 Jan 2019 21:05:28 UTC


[15-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
"Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks."


[15-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
there's a guy claiming to be a senior federal official who's claiming that the government is operating much more efficiently during the shutdown


[15-Jan-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[15-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
"Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged, and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer."


[15-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
"The president’s instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever."


[15-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[15-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
so according to this guy, because of the government shutdown, trump is able to get all of the little things he's wanted done finished


[15-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
which means that there's no more buffer between what trump says he wants to do and what he's actually doing


[15-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
and he's said a loooot of things that he wanted to do which hurt the country


[15-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic dictator play


[15-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
You manufacture a crisis to justify getting more power


[15-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally, said crisis comes from undercutting those who had power and were essential


[15-Jan-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
this guy sounds like some kind of cultist though


[15-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
"The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid."


[15-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
"Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream."


[15-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
he's also anti-scientific, going by his statement that "saboteurs are peddling opinion as research"


[15-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
since the core function of science is to separate fact from opinion


[15-Jan-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/15/18183759/trump-pull-out-of-nato-nyt-mattis

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Trump has reportedly discussed withdrawing from NATO. That would b...
According to the New York Times, Trump brought up pulling out of NATO several times in 2018.
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[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
he's a fascist.


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what they do.


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is exactly what they want.


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core of fascism is to demean people saying reasonable things (Nancy Pelosi) as obstructionists


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
who, trump, or the guy who claims to be a senior official?


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
or both


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, both.


[15-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core of fascism is


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
anyone who disagrees is just getting in the way of our glorious nation


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
national security is your ONLY concern, citizen


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
...you are a citizen right? Noncitizens should be purged.


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
claiming you want gov't shrunk


[15-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
when your actual goal is to massively inflate it to get into everyone's lives


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
To enforce your own intolerant values


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
with monitoring to find "threats"


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if russia tried to restart the axis to compete with nato again, chances are trump would pull out of NATO and join the axis


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ranging from nonwhite immigrants to liberals blogging


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
nah, he wouldn't be able to join russia


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
the US at large wouldn't tolerate that


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
they'd barely tolerate pulling out of NATO as it is


[15-Jan-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, but he woudl try


[15-Jan-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if putin gives the order to join an invasive version of nato, trump woudl jump on it


[15-Jan-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he owuld be arrested on treason but he might do serious damage to get what he wantsa before that


[15-Jan-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515966162274746380/534837816614715392/FB_IMG_1547566570657.png

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[15-Jan-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[15-Jan-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[]


[15-Jan-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Left wing DESTROYED


[15-Jan-19 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok, this is epic


[15-Jan-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the only one keepign the president form going through with withdrawing from NATO is gone...


[15-Jan-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so disheartening reading about furloughed people I know getting jobs at Target


[15-Jan-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially after they spent their whole lives working for a federal government program


[15-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://archive.fo/ADcFO

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[15-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
this guy sounds like a borderline cultist


[15-Jan-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[15-Jan-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has built himself a cult of personality


[15-Jan-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not a huge cult but it;s a big enough cult to throw a wrench in most things


[15-Jan-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
he basically claims that if the government shutdown goes on long enough, people will "see" that we don't need so many employees in order to run the government


[15-Jan-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the emmbers are in the best positions thye can be for the good of the cult


[15-Jan-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
even though things are actually falling apart


[15-Jan-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/ajit-pai-gives-carriers-free-pass-on-privacy-violations-during-fcc-shutdown/

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Ajit Pai gives carriers free pass on privacy violations during FCC...
Pai's staff to Congress: Carriers selling customer location data is no big deal.
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[15-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Mikey#7286
what a slimeball


[15-Jan-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/15/18183820/trump-nancy-pelosi-house-democrats-government-shutdown

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Trump tried to bypass Nancy Pelosi and negotiate with members of h...
Trump doesn’t understand how to negotiate with House Democrats.
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[15-Jan-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
On Tuesday, Trump invited moderate House Democrats to join him at the White House for lunch to talk about his wall and the shutdown. He used a similar strategy when Paul Ryan controlled the House, going around the speaker to negotiate with the far-right Freedom Caucus. But unlike Republicans, no Democrats attended the lunch meeting, according to White House press secretary Sarah Sanders.


[15-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Mikey#7286
ha ha ha


[15-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Mikey#7286
what a moron


[15-Jan-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c

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Scott Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
What A Maroon!
Bugs Says it all.
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[16-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-caller/
Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), ...
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[16-Jan-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
"The Daily Caller has failed numerous fact checks, however they post a significant amount of articles each day. Based on the volume of articles published, versus failed fact checks, they do not fall into the Questionable category, though they are close."


[16-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/15/steve-king-gop-concerns-king-white-supremacy-comment/2577013002/

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House passes resolution condemning Rep. Steve King over white supr...
Rep. Steve King received bipartisan condemnation for his comments on white supremacy.
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[16-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[16-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
he's condemned himself


[16-Jan-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
he voted to condemn himself for his own words


[16-Jan-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C52uM9UWgAAShLw.jpg:large

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[16-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
and those are all the following countries with the biggest budget yes?


[16-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
US has the biggest


[16-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
then China


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
then Russia


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
then Saudi


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
the france, UK, Germany, Japan, India


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
that's pathetic


[16-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
why do we need so much


[16-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
apparently saudi arabia is higher than russia now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures#List

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List of countries by military expenditures
This article is a list of countries by military expenditure in a given year. Military expenditure figures are presented in United States dollars based on either constant or current exchange rates. These results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations i...
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[16-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
and india is #5 now


[16-Jan-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
japan is between germany and the UK now too


[16-Jan-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
but that original chart I linked is from 2014


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
hey I have an idea


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
if Trump _seriously_ wants this wall


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
surely he can take from the overbloated defense budget


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
instead of


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know


[16-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Mikey#7286
disaster reliefe


[16-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
taxpayer funds


[16-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he's actually proposed doing this


[16-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
etc


[16-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
lol when?


[16-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
using defense spending to build the wall


[16-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
610 fucking billion


[16-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
that's unnecessary


[16-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
one reason why spending is so high is because the pentagon refuses to cut down on waste


[16-Jan-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
because instead of being free to relocate that money to other parts of the military, that funding gets taken away by congress the next time they review military spending


[16-Jan-19 01:08 AM] Mikey#7286
and we can't stop meddling in foreign affairs when we don't need to


[16-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meddling is cheap, and it's a way to burn through inventory the US couldn't sell


[16-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Mikey#7286
what happened to "staying neutral" like in WW1 and 2, where we tried to not interfere


[16-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The big money hole is all the terrible provisioning contracts


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rampany genocide?


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
England getting bombed to shit?


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
the CIA spent sooo much time overthrowing democratically elected leftist governments


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Western Europe turned to rubble?


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
like not even socialist or communist


[16-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
just anything left of center


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean even before that we wanted to stay out until Japan bombed us


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
the US gets a looot of benefits from being the "world police" too


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're not making a good case for that policy


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
lots of naval bases, lots of economic benefits, etc


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We didn't stop the massacres until they affected us"


[16-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[16-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
though I more blame Bush Jr for going to Iraq because he ""thought"" there were nukes there


[16-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
and after that we really started meddling in middle eastern countries


[16-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The meddling predates Bush Jr by far


[16-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[16-Jan-19 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[16-Jan-19 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't remember when we started


[16-Jan-19 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
i wanna say like mid cold war?


[16-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Since WW2 ended and Israel became a thing


[16-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With commies wanting influence in the region, precious oil everywhere


[16-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
meddling started after ww2


[16-Jan-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US was happy to turn the region into a theocratic shithole


[16-Jan-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because better than than red


[16-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
the US propped up tons of autocratic dictators after overthrowing democratically elected leftist governments


[16-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, not even communist or socialist


[16-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
but anything left of center


[16-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VLU-SRmDhM
remember the Obama "beer summit"?

now here comes the Trump "burger feast"

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The Burger King of America
Surprisingly good optics for the God Emperor. You can support me via: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/sargonofakkad SubscribeStar: https://www.subscribestar.co...
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[16-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://therealdeal.com/2019/01/10/de-blasio-creates-new-tenant-protection-office-says-city-will-seize-buildings-from-the-worst-landlords/

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De Blasio creates new tenant protection office, says city will sei...
In his sixth annual State of the City speech, Mayor Bill de Blasio on Thursday exclaimed that the city would seize the buildings of the "worst landlords."
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[16-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
SOCIALISM


[16-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
ONOES


[16-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[16-Jan-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
"In his sixth annual State of the City speech, Mayor Bill de Blasio on Thursday morning exclaimed that the city would seize the buildings of the “worst landlords.” He did not explain how such a thing would — or could — be done, but the statement followed an earlier an announcement that a new city office would coordinate tenant protection efforts between separate housing and building agencies."


[16-Jan-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does he mean abusive landlords or the asshoels who buy up entire appartment buildings for investment purposes so no one can live int hem?


[16-Jan-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hopefully both


[16-Jan-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause if it;s the latter then fuck yes do it


[16-Jan-19 01:45 AM] Pretty#9306
wow I didn't know the "goverment shutdown" involved leaving thousands of public employees without pay, it's unreal a country allows this to happen, thats such a disrespect for the public employees


[16-Jan-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[16-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the presaident get's paid to sit on his ass all day


[16-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or in his case, golf


[16-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
@Pretty, not only are hundreds of thousands of employees legally barred from working, there are also thousands of employees that are forced to work without pay


[16-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
they are, however, allowed to quit their job


[16-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
which is the big problem


[16-Jan-19 02:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@prism stryder(intexda)  Actually Trump refused to accept the presidential salary.
 https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

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Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Take no salary
"If I'm elected president, I'm accepting no salary."
http://static.politifact.com/rulings/pledge-meters/facebook/promise-kept.png


[16-Jan-19 02:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so he's not getting money out of this either


[16-Jan-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i'll give him credit for that...


[16-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438422061753434112/534830795039440896


[16-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
parody donald trump account that was linked earlier today was suspended :(


[16-Jan-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awww


[16-Jan-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425414-mcconnell-blocks-house-bill-to-reopen-government-for-second-time?amp

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McConnell blocks House bill to reopen government for second time
Senate Republicans blocked a House-passed package to reopen the federal government for a second time in as many weeks on Tuesday. Democratic Sens.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_011019sr_lead.jpg


[16-Jan-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell must be gettign some sweet elderly anal sex to be this loyal to trump


[16-Jan-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I should ban you for putting that image in my mind

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[16-Jan-19 06:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://derpibooru.org/1936650

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[16-Jan-19 06:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
o o f


[16-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
no artist tag >:V


[16-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/gorsuch-arbitration-labor-new-prime-oliveira.html

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The Supreme Court Just Handed a Big, Unanimous Victory to Workers....
Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote the unanimous opinion affirming the right of transportation contractors to sue abusive employers.
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[16-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[16-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
On Tuesday, the Supreme Court handed a victory to American workers, ruling unanimously that independent contractors who work in transportation may not be forced into mandatory arbitration. (Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who joined the bench after argument, did not participate.) The decision is a remarkable win for labor rights from a court that typically favors corporate interests over working people. And it will allow hundreds of thousands of contractors to vindicate their rights in court, collectively, rather than in costly and unjust arbitration.


[16-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie too


[16-Jan-19 06:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
🔥 👌


[16-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
apparently gorsuch is so pedantically obsessed with the intent over literal definition of written laws that he agreed that the 1925 federal arbitration act didn't apply to contractors because at the time, there was no distinction between employee and contract worker


[16-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
the company tried to argue that because contract workers aren't technically employees that the federal arbitration act applied to them


[16-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
awesome cause truckers are striking in April


[16-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
#blacksmokematters
not even kidding that is their hastag


[16-Jan-19 07:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wholly expecting receiving to grind to a halt at work.


[16-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mcdonald-s-corp-trademark-supermacs/mcdonalds-loses-big-mac-trademark-case-to-irish-chain-supermacs-idUSKCN1P92JA

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McDonald's loses 'Big Mac' trademark case to Irish chain Supermac's
McDonald's Corp has lost its rights to the trademark "Big Mac" in...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190116&t=2&i=1346239676&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0E1R6


[16-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


[16-Jan-19 07:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
O O O O O F


[16-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
literally


[16-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
the fucking day after trump has dozens of big macs in the white house


[16-Jan-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/brexit-bedlam-mays-eu-divorce-deal-crushed-by-230-votes-in-parliament-idUSKCN1P90OU

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/brexit-bedlam-mays-eu-divorce-deal-crushed-by-230-votes-in-parliament-idUSKCN1P90OU
Brexit bedlam: May's EU divorce deal crushed by 230 votes in...
British lawmakers defeated Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit divorce deal...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190115&t=2&i=1346135497&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0E1RA


[16-Jan-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/politics/trump-juan-guaido-venezuela/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/politics/trump-juan-guaido-venezuela/index.html
Trump considering recognizing Venezuelan opposition leader as legi...
President Donald Trump is considering recognizing Venezuela's opposition leader as the legitimate president of the country, three sources familiar with the matter told CNN, a significant move that would increase pressure on Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190115114145-juan-guaido-super-tease.jpg


[16-Jan-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
is it civil war time in venezuela?


[16-Jan-19 07:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Attempting to seize power" sounds a lot like, "attempted coup"


[16-Jan-19 07:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
But here we go, American pattern of intervention.


[16-Jan-19 07:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not like everyone else has denied Venezuela their gold.


[16-Jan-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
where does it say "attempting to seize power"?


[16-Jan-19 07:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
In an original article about his arrest. It was basically the headline.


[16-Jan-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile, as of last November, Venezuela was trying to get back its gold in British banks. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-gold-exclusive/exclusive-venezuela-seeks-to-repatriate-550-million-of-gold-from-britain-sources-idUSKCN1NA1Q7

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Exclusive: Venezuela seeks to repatriate $550 million of gold from...
Venezuela is seeking to repatriate about $550 million in gold bars from the Bank...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181105&t=2&i=1322247241&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEA411B


[16-Jan-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that it seems like the US is attempting to put a legitimately elected politician into power this time, though I guess it's because this time it's because the dictator is the "socialist" this time


[16-Jan-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
in the past, it was always the US overthrowing democratically elected leftists in favor of autocratic dictators


[16-Jan-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6kqYrztWU8

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Literature Devil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6kqYrztWU8
Can A Racist Character Be Heroic?
An exploration into what seems to be a forgotten element among modern-day protagonists: Real Character Flaws. Gone are the days of the Byronic hero. No more ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k6kqYrztWU8/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jan-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I never heard of this https://boundingintocomics.com/2018/11/08/star-wars-and-marvel-voice-actress-tara-strong-accused-of-racism-after-confrontation-with-immigrant-uber-driver/

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Star Wars and Marvel Voice Actress Tara Strong Accused of Racism A...
Voice actress Tara Strong and fellow actress Rena Sofer took to Twitter to accuse an Uber driver of harassment based on political beliefs.
https://boundingintocomics.com/files/2018/11/Rena-Sofer-and-Tara-Strong.png


[16-Jan-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she got an uber driver fired by claiming he threatened to kill her


[16-Jan-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6FR_L--Mdw

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Memology 101
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Tara Strong vs Uber Driver - Threatening Legal Action Against Bein...
Tara and her friend lash out against Uber Driver. Thanks to https://twitter.com/Hayakun0001 If you like what you see: https://streamlabs.com/antoniochavez1 h...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b6FR_L--Mdw/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jan-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
that's a really bitchy move


[16-Jan-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like there's a lot more leftist and communist youtubers than right wing youtubers


[16-Jan-19 08:48 AM] sectioned#3090
Probably


[16-Jan-19 08:48 AM] sectioned#3090
I don't know of any though


[16-Jan-19 08:48 AM] sectioned#3090
I don't watch any specifically communist or leftist youtubers


[16-Jan-19 08:49 AM] sectioned#3090
because i'm not an insane person


[16-Jan-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
why would watching communist or leftist youtubes make you insane?


[16-Jan-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
He is concerned he might have to reconsider opinions because he might watch one streaming Donkey Kong 64 for charity in support of Mermaids, because some weird-ass burnt out comedian managed to get their lottery funds from the UK government pulled because trans teens.


[16-Jan-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIM-GKRS9Vk&t=0s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIM-GKRS9Vk&t=0s
DONKEY KONG 64 CHARITY STREAM ON JANUARY 18TH
It's time. https://www.twitch.tv/hbomberguy/ Mermaids' Website: https://www.mermaidsuk.org.uk/ The channel for archives of live stuff: https://www.youtube.co...
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[16-Jan-19 10:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or shitposts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzzFK_ZAAs&t=0s

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Mr. Video Games - Meme King of 2019
Music - https://soundcloud.com/arthousepolitics/mrvideogames Support us on patreon: http://patreon.com/ArtHousePolitics Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArtHouse...
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[16-Jan-19 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jan-19 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/15/politics/employees-shutdown-pay/index.html

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Judge denies requests for pay from workers affected by shutdown
A federal judge on Tuesday denied a request from a federal employees union to require the government to pay air traffic controllers who are currently working without pay during the partial government shutdown.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151014171538-air-traffic-controllers-shortage-marsh-live-lead-00013628-super-tease.jpg


[16-Jan-19 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think this is the most non political article about this shutdown i;ve read


[16-Jan-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is shocking coming form cnn


[16-Jan-19 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1085532404226379776?s=19

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"At this crucial moment in our history a general election is simply not in our national interest" says Theresa May, who called a general election just weeks after triggering Article 50.
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[16-Jan-19 07:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It's different now though. 🇬🇧


[16-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
"Until we start throwing molotov cocktails in the streets like every other country, this shit won't change"


[16-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
found this comment on a washington post article


[16-Jan-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/florida-board-of-health-suspends-hundreds-of-health-care-licenses-over-student-loan-defaults

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Florida Board of Health suspends health care licenses over student...
The Florida Board of Health suspended health care licenses of workers who defaulted on student loans.
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[16-Jan-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/PuaYLCY.jpg

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[16-Jan-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[16-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2019/01/16/roku-removes-alex-jones-infowars-channel-after-one-day-amid-backlash/2591688002/

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Roku removes Alex Jones' InfoWars channel after one day amid backlash
Just one day after Roku added Alex Jones' InfoWars channel, the streaming company removed the channel amid backlash.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d76b83b6887508548768ebae6823115bfdc6ed50/c=0-195-4990-3014/local/-/media/2018/08/14/USATODAY/USATODAY/636698879056638757-AP-Alex-Jones-Twitter.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[16-Jan-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-lavrov-japan/russia-calls-on-japan-to-recognize-outcome-of-world-war-two-idUSKCN1PA0WV

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Russia calls on Japan to recognize outcome of World War Two
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov denied on Wednesday that Moscow was impos...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190116&t=2&i=1346371329&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0F0QL


[16-Jan-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-46890903

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Zimbabwe pastor arrested amid protests
Opposition activist Pastor Mawarire is taken from his home as fuel price protests enter their third day.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/A762/production/_105205824_hi051677200.jpg


[16-Jan-19 09:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/unpaid-tsa-agents-no-longer-163400099.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&fbclid=IwAR1_DDoN39tBoL2s3Cl2KLIfksj3bgA4tQKVWictaE2rwLKoxRXjPKNBs0k

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Unpaid TSA agents, no longer giving a f***, play uncensored rap mu...
Passengers have reported hearing explicit versions of Kanye West's "Lift Yourself" and Travis Scott's "Sicko Mode".
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/M0DDDxzaTnw_flQaqPr9EA--~B/aD03NTY7dz0xMDAwO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https:/media.zenfs.com/en/consequence_of_sound_458/f9e5010b49d63106fbf975b538245f48


[16-Jan-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[16-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised no communist/anarchist groups have taken up cleaning up the parks and shit that the government is incapable of doing now


[16-Jan-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, why did anarchists break off of calling themselves communist, even though the end goal is the same exact thing?


[16-Jan-19 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some still call themselves communist, see Anarcho-Communism. But like most things of the left it has more to do with methodology than anything. Both a ML and an Anarchist want to see a future class-less state-less society where everything is owned democratically, but the issue is with the difference between t he state-based model and the anti-state model. Anarchists would rather not see the end of the current society through state-based revolution and are more likely to construct secondary power sources within society to draw influence away from the state, where as state-based socialists will create parties and seek evolution or revolution in parliamentary politics or revolutionary action.


[16-Jan-19 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
As an aside, I heard some stuff said even radical boye Bakunin wasn't a fan of insurrection all the time despite saying that destruction is a creative passion. But I'm not a Bakunin scholar.


[16-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
>go into airport security


[16-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
>lone TSA guy sees your gun, nods and makes closed fist in the air while moving up and down to a beat


[16-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
>You hear "FUCK THE POLICE" blaring as he clearly isn't going to do anything


[16-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
>it's time.


[16-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/nancy-pelosi-state-of-the-union-donald-trump/index.html

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Pelosi just pulled a major power move on Trump's State of the Union
Sometimes the best power moves in politics are conveyed in the most mundane language.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190109160217-nancy-pelosi-1-9-super-tease.jpg


[16-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
"It's the House speaker's prerogative to invite the President to give the State of the Union. While there's no precedent for it (that we're aware of), if Pelosi decides the President shouldn't go to the Capitol to speak on January 29, the President will not go on January 29."


[16-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
"Keep in mind, in order to green light the State of the Union, both the House and the Senate have to pass resolutions. Neither have done so yet — and Pelosi controls whether the House passes one at all."


[16-Jan-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
pelosi just said that she won't invite trump to congress for the state of the union address unless the government is reopened


[16-Jan-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
apparently that's an official power that the speaker of the house has


[16-Jan-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
it's never been done before though


[16-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46894463

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Domino's Pizza defeated in court over app
A blind man had complained that he was unable to change toppings or complete his order online.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/52BC/production/_105208112_d042f8a0-fb5e-40e6-a52c-4dc9d485d5dc.jpg


[16-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[16-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
how do you make a website accessible to blind people, full text to speech or something?


[16-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
there's apps for that


[16-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Blind people need to be able to fully access and enjoy the services of /any/ company, Crow


[16-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
is that the first time it's been done for a website?


[16-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right now, it's illegal for companies to sell videogames that aren't fully playable by blind people


[16-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
oh, apparently it's because apple's built-in blind function was unable to properly read domino's site


[16-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you disagree you're an ableist shitlord and an alt-right scumbag


[16-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/blind-video-gamers-1.4037944

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'We're gamers too,' says blind video gamer about accessibility in ...
Nintendo's Switch console came out earlier this month and now the party game 1-2 Switch is gaining a lot of attention for being accessible to blind and visually impaired gamers. Toronto blind gamer Steve Saylor is raising awareness that blind gamers can play mainstream games,...
https://i.cbc.ca/1.4037996.1490288736!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/steve-saylor.jpg


[16-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
"Nintendo's Switch console came out earlier this month and now the party game 1-2 Switch is gaining a lot of attention for being accessible to blind and visually impaired gamers."


[16-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure how that's useful for true blindness though


[16-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
there's a difference between legally and completely blind


[16-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
We need better candidates


[16-Jan-19 10:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
On both sides


[16-Jan-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
a lot of people voted for trump because they were voting against hillary


[16-Jan-19 10:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's fine


[16-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But now to think about it I rather not vote for Bernie though


[16-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase this socialist idea is not good


[16-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I rather not end up like Brazil


[16-Jan-19 10:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That's why I hope for a 3rd party


[16-Jan-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil has a lot more problems than "socialism"


[16-Jan-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just that whenever a country isn't great and it's got an even mildly socialist system, americans blame that


[16-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Hopefully we have a independent party


[16-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But when a fully capitalist country is an even worse shithole, they look for another thing to blame


[16-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But why


[16-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Capitalism works just fine for America


[16-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It works just fine for America, but not for americans


[16-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But why should we go socialist it dont make sense


[16-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Plus socialism sucks


[16-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you even know what socialism is


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yes


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
It's like russia


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
that's not the question


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
do you know what socialism does?


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
???


[16-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yes


[16-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
We have equal power and are useless against the government


[16-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wut


[16-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
you're thinking of totalitarianism


[16-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's sounding like you have no clue


[16-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
the tl;dr of socialism is that businesses aren't owned by private individuals


[16-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
and are instead owned collectively


[16-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
that could mean the government owns and runs the business


[16-Jan-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
but it can also mean that the workers that make up the business own and run it


[16-Jan-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
russia hasn't been socialist since the 90's btw


[16-Jan-19 10:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That sounds like a no no to me


[16-Jan-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
they're capitalist now


[16-Jan-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly /nobody/ is fully socialist


[16-Jan-19 10:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Why do I want to government to control everything


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
because you can tell the government what it can and can't do


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Um


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
you can't tell a private business what it can and can't do


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In any case this is veering away from the actual issue


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
unless you're a worker


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil isn't any more "socialist" than Canada


[16-Jan-19 10:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But still


[16-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil's problems have zilch to do with having any sort of social programs or higher on-paper regulations


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But why trust your government


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You shouldn't


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
If you look at california


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
california's fine


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
expensive to live in, but fine


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
They are in a mess


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You should trust corporations intent on profiting off you even less


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A mess compared to what


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And why


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cite sources


[16-Jan-19 10:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Debt mostly


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
debt isn't that big of a deal


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And the filthy cities


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
deficit is much more harmful than debt


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
all cities are filthy lol


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Um


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Not all


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
California looks bad


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
unless you go to singapore


[16-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Compaird to texas


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And everyone is going to texas becuase the jobs are good thier


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Have you been to Dallas


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or Houston


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they're shitholes


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Nope


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I been there


[16-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Not a problem


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
... have you been to california cities?


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I seen pictures


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm not lying


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This literally is not worth my time


[16-Jan-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imma play Forza


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Fine


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But texas is booming


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And still is booming


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Be jealous


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont care


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
he's in germany


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
lol


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm a Texan, Crow


[16-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I know that


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But still


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
so's california btw


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Texas is nice


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
california's booming as well


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
there's a lot of people moving to texas from california due to cheap housing, but that cheap housing is drying up really quick


[16-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Shit


[16-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I need to go back down there


[16-Jan-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh boy this guy again


[16-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Oh please


[16-Jan-19 10:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Stop

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[16-Jan-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Every argument you make is unsubstantiated claims based on, like, your opinion man


[16-Jan-19 10:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[16-Jan-19 10:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well my opinion bruh


[16-Jan-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what has the screaming orange cheese puff done today?


[16-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
nothing that I know of


[16-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
but pelosi said that she will refuse to invite trump to congress for the state of the union address


[16-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
unless the government is reopened


[16-Jan-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
due to completely legitimate security concerns


[16-Jan-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/16/building-ocasio-cortez-more-progressive-ways-raise-much-needed-tax-revenues/


[16-Jan-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.businessinsider.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-gets-house-financial-services-committee-seat-2019-1

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez secures powerful House committee seat tha...
Ocaiso-Cortez says she got a spot on the House Financial Services Committee. In the past, she has called for big banks to be broken up.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c3f017455ab0b139e53cf17-1136-852.jpg


[16-Jan-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well yeah, I wouldnt invite him to any government event at this point as he can be copnsidered a suspected russian spy


[16-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie seems to think that this committee is weak because it has no subpoena powers


[16-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
... it does have subpoena powers https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-subpoena-trump/

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FACT CHECK: Could Maxine Waters Subpoena Trump’s Bank Records If...
Maxine Waters is in line to become chair of the House Financial Services Committee if Democrats take that chamber — a position that comes with broad subpoena powers.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/07/maxine_waters_finance_committee.jpg?fit=1200,628


[16-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was an if statement


[16-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
since they hav subpoena powers, they are not weak.


[16-Jan-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
> With Ocasio-Cortez on the committee, it is plausible that in the near future the US public could see a democratic socialist publicly grill, for instance, the CEO of Goldman Sachs.


[16-Jan-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
>Ocasio-Cortez's appointment comes after she was left off the House Ways and Means Committee, which oversees many parts of US economy policy including spending, taxes, and revenue.


[16-Jan-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/even-rightsholders-think-europes-article-13-mess-call-immediate-halt-negotiations

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Even the Rightsholders Think Europe’s Article 13 is a Mess, Call...
With only days to go before the planned conclusion of the new EU Directive on Copyright in the Single Digital Market, Europe's largest and most powerful rightsholder groups — from the Premier League to the Motion Picture Association (MPA) and the Association of Commercial T...
https://www.eff.org/files/banner_library/og-copyrightbot-hd-2.png


[16-Jan-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/01/eus-copyright-directive-charm-offensive-pats-europeans-head-and-tells-them-leave

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The EU's Copyright Directive Charm Offensive Pats Europeans On the...
When it comes to the new Copyright Directive, some in the EU would prefer that Europeans just stop paying attention and let the giant corporations decide the future of the Internet.In a new Q&A about the Directive, the European Parliament – or rather, the JURI committee, wh...
https://www.eff.org/files/banner_library/og-copyrightbot-hd-3.png


[16-Jan-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190115/10264041397/hollywood-asks-eu-to-drop-article-13-entirely-because-it-might-possibly-have-tiny-compromise-internet.shtml

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Hollywood Asks EU To Drop Article 13 Entirely, Because It Might Po...
Earlier today, we had a post detailing the completely ridiculous "defense" of Articles 11 and 13 in the EU Copyright Directive that the EU Parliament's JURI Committee released. It was so full of misleading statements, outright lies, and...
https://ii.techdirt.com/s/t/i/td_icon_300.png


[16-Jan-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/rudy-giuliani-rumored-to-be-very-worried-about-mueller-report-hates-working-for-trump-now/

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/rudy-giuliani-rumored-to-be-very-worried-about-mueller-report-hates-working-for-trump-now/
Giuliani Rumored to Be ‘Very Worried’ About Mueller Report, ...
Trump's lead attorney Rudy Giuliani reportedly "hates the job" because "Trump is very hard to deal with."
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Giuliani-963760798-e1529438783790.jpg


[16-Jan-19 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anastasia-vashukevich-model-claimed-dirt-on-russian-oligarch-speaks-out-today-2019-01-16/

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Jailed model who claimed she has dirt on Russian oligarch speaks out
Anastasia Vashukevich has told Russian media she can't wait to be released
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/03/01/cbaea19f-dfc2-4021-8fdc-8c962984e579/thumbnail/1200x630g3/05ad95a227a882cb9326fdf6856d32d8/anastasia-vashukevich-ap-18059315391380.jpg


[16-Jan-19 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[17-Jan-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I watched that individualism vs individuality video you linked, but one thing that it didn't seem to cover is how to prevent a collectivist society from treading all over minority groups and individual traits seen as harmful


[17-Jan-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could go pretty far with the subject at hand. Fortunately, Peter Coffin also hosts twice weekly streams Monday and Friday at 11 or 11:30. So if you really wanted to and if he were in the mood to digress from the sort of fun hang out session he has with people you could ask him. Peter is pretty open, though he also tends to accidently shouty on serious topics; doesn't mean he's trying to berate you. But he'd also be a part of a "minority group" being asexual himself.


[17-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
wait, I thought he had kids


[17-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
and is married


[17-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
unless they're adopted


[17-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Asexual doesn't mean won't have sex or aromantic


[17-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
I know the aromantic part, it's just that usually asexual people don't have sex lol


[17-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Honahue#0656
asexual is a really weird spot to be in especially as a man


[17-Jan-19 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Peter doesn't identify as strictly being a male, though he recognizes he's biologically a male. Mostly he rejects the societal imposition of acting masculine so he wears female clothes, or anything he wants really. As he's said before on stream his position on his gender is, "whatever, I feel nothing".


[17-Jan-19 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I think he's said that when he's tried to be such-and-such a way to be as he was born, he felt more stressed and bothered by it to live that way than just rejecting it outright, and rejecting it outright and doing whatever works makes him more comfortable in his body. But I'm probably not getting it across right either, because I'm a straight dude whose always felt comfortable being a straight dude; no matter how often I've sat down to consider it.


[17-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Torr#5078
https://youtu.be/yVhxxjy-Uxw

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U.S. Embassy Norway
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Robert Putnam on Immigration and Diversity
A couple of weeks ago, the Embassy and Tankesmien Agenda hosted a reception for Harvard University professor Robert D. Putnam. Putnam is a world-renowned pol...
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[17-Jan-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
there's a lot of people in the comments who dislike immigrants lol


[17-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/senate-democrats-vote-to-block-trump-from-lifting-russia-sanctions-fails.html

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Senate Democrats fail to stop Trump from lifting sanctions on firm...
Sen. Mitt Romney, who had warned as a presidential candidate that Russia is the U.S.' top geopolitical foe, voted against the resolution.
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[17-Jan-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how much more proof that trump is a friend of an enemy of the US is needed before people start turning against him


[17-Jan-19 01:08 AM] Torr#5078
It's more for the "diversity" thing.

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[17-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Torr#5078

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[17-Jan-19 01:09 AM] Torr#5078
@Crow


[17-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
seems like people are suddenly obsessed with collectivism only when there's immigrants involved


[17-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
same way that people are obsessed with rape statistics only when immigrants are supposedly doing it, even though there's many more rapes done by non-immigrants than immigrants


[17-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like most of these effects are what is expected, not what is actually happening too


[17-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
and also pettiness


[17-Jan-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
like they refuse to participate because there's people they don't like just because they're different in their community


[17-Jan-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
I don't even get the last one, it seems like a longer way of saying that because things they don't agree with are happening in their community, they retreat to watching television for their hugbox echo chamber good vibes


[17-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
on the whole, this study doesn't seem particularly well done


[17-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
and if anything, it proves that people are petty assholes when they don't get everything their way


[17-Jan-19 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Clinging tightly to an image of the past that never existed, and thereby failing to admit culture has evolved failing to admit different people to bring in new thoughts and models of existence to bring energy into the society to continue the sort of process of societal evolution that has transpired throughout all history and thus keeping society healthy and not degenerating into a decay invested on continuing a replication of a past that did not exist.


[17-Jan-19 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr how much constitutes diversity?


[17-Jan-19 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, is a community that is 80% white and then 20% black diverse?


[17-Jan-19 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-diversity-create-distrust/

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Does Diversity Create Distrust?
Doubts about a Harvard professor’s landmark finding
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[17-Jan-19 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This paper might refute your assumptions


[17-Jan-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
so uh


[17-Jan-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
according to that, it just directly proves the conclusions I came to


[17-Jan-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
"After reanalyzing the same dataset used by Putnam, Abascal and Baldassari asserted that when it comes to distrust and diversity, most of the distrust is expressed by Whites who feel uncomfortable living amongst racial minorities. In other words, greater distrust may stem from prejudice rather than from diversity per se.

Therefore, Putnam’s conclusion that racial diversity leads to less altruism and cooperation amongst neighbors was incorrect. If there is a downside to diversity, it has less to do with the behavior of racial minorities and more to do with how Whites feel when living amongst non-Whites."


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I was kind of expecting that


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking anglos man


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I mean if you want to complain about anything concerning the rapidity of changing values and norms then the crosshairs shouldn't be turned on immigration as a concept, but what perpetuates the migration in the first place. In an American sense, the inflow and outflow of persons cycles the workforce so there's always a source of cheap labor to be recruited, who go into fields that the core demographic of the society won't go to because they've been raised to seek better, or who expect too much that what the employer - seeking to acquire the most profit - is willing to offer. Immigration, in the form of illegal immigration really thus provides a source of cheap labor that comes with the added benefit that be being technically illegal gives the employer far more control over because the police can always be called in on if they organized since they shouldn't be in here in the first place.


[17-Jan-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~this is why we need white genocide tbh~~


[17-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that these conclusions don't just apply to whites, but literally any in group that has an influx of an out group


[17-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
the study just happened to have been done in a place where the in group was white


[17-Jan-19 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
And said people are compelled to move from one place to another, because through some manner of geopolitics their homes have been made a worse place over all by the countries they seek to enter. By intervening in Latin American politics, the US has created a playground for its own private interests to take root in because we've successfully lashed out at any government that sought to correct the balance between capitalist and worker and to maintain a heavily capitalist-biased state where major industries can go to for cheap labor, there are industrial zones in countries like Honduras where manufacturers are allowed to be so abusive for the sake of development that wages are no better - or slightly better - than slave labor. From a purely economic standpoint to go t o America and work as cheap labor in the fields is a far better opportunity than stradling yourself with corporate oppression and bad wages back home while also dealing with violent gangs and an unstable government like Guatemala.


[17-Jan-19 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk again, i'll iterate that the ones hoarding all the money are the super-rich, the landlords, the bankers, the elite. Pointing towards the immigrants as the ones responsible for the inequality issues we face today is silly, in my opinion.


[17-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
it also likely depends on the culture as well, like american culture is super focused on everyone looking and acting the same


[17-Jan-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Ay, and going back to the earlier point I made where employers have greater control over illegals than natives, the illegalization of migrant labor such as we've done has made unionizing far difficult. A lot of these people coming north have such different experiences of capitalism they make for a more radical contingent of workers than the average white guy and they could create a more radical labor movement than the ones controlled by the white working class, where unions are more like lobbying forces than take-to-the-street-and-club-the-bosses sort of unions we had in the past.


[17-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's an "individualistic" culture, a lot of americans seem off-put by anything that doesn't fit in their specific world view


[17-Jan-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Such unions were also organized by... drum roll please... European immigrants.


[17-Jan-19 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The rather impoverished Germans, and Irish, and Poles... Mexicans are just facing the same stuff nowadays.


[17-Jan-19 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Note that these minority groups have also effectively entered the "US American" identity


[17-Jan-19 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't doubt that, in a few decades, Arabs and some Africans might enter the European identitarian substrata


[17-Jan-19 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If a number of them stay


[17-Jan-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
I always thought it was interesting how blacks born in the UK seem to have completely adopted the stereotypical accents of the region, while blacks in the US still have their own, somewhat unique accents


[17-Jan-19 01:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could it be something related to wealth distribution?


[17-Jan-19 01:33 AM] Torr#5078
🤔


[17-Jan-19 01:33 AM] Torr#5078
..mm ok, I will show the "Americanscientist" article that send badging to the person  who defends this to avoid immigration in the name of social capital said by putnam. And yes, I think I've heard him say that it affects white and non-white people, and also that there is more respect among ethnic groups.


[17-Jan-19 01:33 AM] Torr#5078
hehe


[17-Jan-19 01:34 AM] Torr#5078
bad english 😛


[17-Jan-19 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure i understood your first sentence, but the second one was more straightforward. Yet, i have a feeling such a claim is situational.


[17-Jan-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English#Origins

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African-American Vernacular English (AAVE), known less precisely as Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), Black Vernacular English (BVE), or colloquially Ebonics (a controversial term), is the variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of English natively spoken b...


[17-Jan-19 01:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is a bit obvious that culturally and ethnically hierarchal societies produce a lot of internal conflict. On the other hand, other, more ethnically inclusive and egalitarian societies show less of the same problem


[17-Jan-19 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Seminoles of Florida accepted everyone from runaway Cherokee to poor whites to escaped black slaves, for example


[17-Jan-19 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 To pretend that Latin Americans shouldn't leave Latin America because they don't speak English is in pretty poor taste and ignored the reality of many other places in the world where people from different cultural groups do often live side by side peacefully. It's not uncommon for many other places in the world that the average number of languages spoken by someone it is three or even five, and their unique identities aren't entirely negated while they also interact. So there's no reason an American raised speaking English can't learn Spanish, or even an indigenous language and for that to not devalue any of their respective identities.


[17-Jan-19 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But alas, in this capitalist consumerist world, ethnicity might get all just replaced with "American", leaving the words "race", "culture" and "ethnicity" as all empty anchorings that make no sense as labels anymore


[17-Jan-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
whats the difference between yogurt and white people? only one has culture


[17-Jan-19 01:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Jan-19 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One must not confuse it all and come to the conclusion that there's an unified "black" culture, though


[17-Jan-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
muh stricly consumerist identity


[17-Jan-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
African-American? Maybe


[17-Jan-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But "African" or "black" is a very murky umbrella term


[17-Jan-19 01:42 AM] RYDE#8862
I'm African-American!


[17-Jan-19 01:42 AM] RYDE#8862
seriously, I am.


[17-Jan-19 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@RYDE I didn't know that, tbf


[17-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I know at least one black girl that has a really hard time identifying with the black community at least where I live anyway


[17-Jan-19 01:43 AM] RYDE#8862
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I get you. I just never told you about myself


[17-Jan-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Np


[17-Jan-19 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbBzhqJK3bg

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"Are Traps Gay?" | ContraPoints
A psychosexual journey to the heart of a bad meme. (This is an educational video I made for scientific and artistic purposes and is very advertiser friendly....
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[17-Jan-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's weird that the pc term is "african-american" when not every blakc perosn comes from africa and not all africans are black... yet


[17-Jan-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
traps are gay


[17-Jan-19 01:45 AM] Torr#5078
traps are not* gay


[17-Jan-19 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
"You have to become a legally identified corporate entity in this country just to get a vagina!" -ContraPoints


[17-Jan-19 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2019/01/16/future-coffee-doubt-60-per-cent-plants-now-risk-extinction/

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Future of coffee in doubt as 60 per cent of plants now at risk of ...
Coffee drinking is in danger after a new study found that 60 per cent of plants are now at risk of extinction, including the variety which produces most of the world’s beans.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/11/01/TELEMMGLPICT000179615365-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg


[17-Jan-19 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good riddance, i hate coffee anyway


[17-Jan-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted to try the berry but i hate actuall coffee


[17-Jan-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except for capuccino


[17-Jan-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only coffee i can tolerate


[17-Jan-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like that one Jewish doctor Hitler left alone :twismug:


[17-Jan-19 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that in capitalist efficiency hegemony is desired for consistency in product or to maximize the output. It's why we grow only one potato: because they make easier french fries.


[17-Jan-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the berry is actually safe for humans to eat and i want to try them


[17-Jan-19 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or why we all grow five types of apples and all those trees are effective clones of one another, because no one wants to gamble a diversity of fruits.


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate that


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, a lot of black communities ostracize black kids for "acting white"


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm worried about native Brazilian guaraná now


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is such a blank bucket of safety


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
their definition of "acting white" includes studying and making good grades


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That fruit is a piece of heaven


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't want it to go extinct because of climate change


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Growing apples without taking cuttingsd from one tree and putting it on another is a gamble, since fruits from individual trees is a roll of a dice of what apple you're gonna get.


[17-Jan-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no experimentation, any new flavors are limited so as not to cause sale disturbances


[17-Jan-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and fruits are typically only the msot common verieties


[17-Jan-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to try dragon fruit but i's so gosh darned rare i cant find it


[17-Jan-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 >When one of your states has such a diversity of fruit that their cuisine is unique compared to anywhere else, especially Brazil. But since it's really really hard to export them it's not like it's going to ever be a commercial success to keep them around.


[17-Jan-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't get why guaraná hasn't caught as a widespread fad


[17-Jan-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But acai has


[17-Jan-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Acai sucks compared to guaraná


[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maybe it's hard to export guaraná.


[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, but there is guaraná juice, which might be easier to transport


[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
I know I heard of  fruit from Minas-whateveris that supposedly tastes good, but if you're not careful you'll fucking nuke your mouth with spines so small and sharp you need special surgery to remove them


[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eyeball fruit


[17-Jan-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't let the creepy eye fruit's shape scare you away tho

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[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's fucking good


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Looks like the eye boss from TF2's Halloween event


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda wanna try it


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of fish eggs too


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyone who **comes to Brazil zil zil** should have a taste of at least guaraná soda


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of rare commercially unavailable fruit i want to try


[17-Jan-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's guaraná soda, and it's a rather unique thing


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maybe I'll find out how to vacation to Brasil and Badger can show me around.


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Be the guardian of the gringo


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit coca cola


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FZfpnlVjqP4/maxresdefault.jpg

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[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
salmon eggs


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not interested in caviar


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait nvm


[17-Jan-19 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
DEAR CHRISTIANS IF YOU'RE SO AGAINST ABORTION WHY DO YOU FORCE SALMONS INTO ABORTIONS. CHECK MATE PROLIFERS


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guaraná Antártica is not coke's property yet


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like it's still popular enough anong Brazilians


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if i can get a case of it shipped here for slightly cheap


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's funny how memes basically normalized being gay over the past 10 years


[17-Jan-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[17-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
all the trap memes


[17-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/trump-international-hotel-lease-general-services-administration-emoluments/2597541002/

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Watchdog: Federal property managers ignored whether Trump hotel le...
The General Services Administration didn't review the Constitution before leasing the Trump International Hotel to the president, a watchdog found.
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[17-Jan-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
So I read


[17-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
Federal officials who leased the Old Post Office Building to President Donald Trump were aware of constitutional provisions that could breach the lease, but “decided not to address those issues,” according to a government watchdog report Wednesday.


[17-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/jack-bogle-founder-of-vanguard-group-and-creator-of-the-index-fund-dies-at-age-89.html

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Jack Bogle, founder of Vanguard Group and creator of the index fun...
Bogle was considered one of the world's greatest investors. He was founder of Vanguard Group and created the world's first index mutual fund.
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[17-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
"Jack Bogle, who founded Vanguard Group, an investing juggernaut now with more than $5.1 trillion in assets under management, and created the world’s first index mutual fund, has died. He was 89."


[17-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
"Bogle, whose personal fortune was a valued at relatively modest $80 million, had a history of cardiac problems, suffering the first of a half-dozen heart attacks at age 31 and undergoing a transplant at 65."


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
apparently this guy is worshipped by rich people


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
> relatively modest $80 million


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
cnbc is out of touch with reality


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
compared to $5.1 trillion?


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
that isn't even modest


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
that's a speck


[17-Jan-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a flea on a cat of dollar bills


[17-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
“If a statue is ever erected to honor the person who has done the most for American investors, the hands down choice should be Jack Bogle,”


[17-Jan-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Once you get to a certain point the amount of money enters a world of abstract existence. It's often difficult to picture what to do with so many millions.


[17-Jan-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burn it?


[17-Jan-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
It may be a factor to how lottery winners blow through the random wealth so fast, it's difficult to understand how much money that really is.


[17-Jan-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile when I thought about it, I think I'm always way under-estimating it.


[17-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
you can't look at it from a "how much do I save" perspective and look at it more from a "what do I really need" perspective


[17-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
the why is very important too


[17-Jan-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
you can't just need something just because you want to have it


[17-Jan-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think everything USB on my computer just died. I can't move my mouse and my wireless antenna isn't picking anything up.


[17-Jan-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
So on phone now.


[17-Jan-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Going to restart this computer and see what happens.


[17-Jan-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
I have a very strange psychological relationship with money though, I don't actually consider it valuable despite seeing how important it is for living


[17-Jan-19 02:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
I hardly spend money so I usually having a steadily rising checking account. I'm pretty good with it since I don't do anything with it. I have to force myself to do shit otherwise I pay my bills, lol. Which is a good thing.


[17-Jan-19 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I do worry what winning the mega-millions would do.


[17-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
like if I was in a situation in which I could steal $1 million with no chances of being caught, I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't see it as worth the effort


[17-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
but I would love to just have $1 million given to me with no strings attached


[17-Jan-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
OK computer is back to normal.


[17-Jan-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
No more phone typing


[17-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's too bad I'll never get to make any meaningful money because it costs too much to go to college


[17-Jan-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Given my college habits I'm honestly considering dropping pretense and doing fuck all so long as I can put it on a resume and get away with it, lmao.


[17-Jan-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Along side taking a course or courses for my primary degree I should just in self admission of the bullshit take a French class.


[17-Jan-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because I have a dream of someday being able to understand the Foucault-Chomsky debate without subtitles.


[17-Jan-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TUD4gfvtDY

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withDefiance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TUD4gfvtDY
Noam Chomsky & Michel Foucault - Full debate on Human Nature
A proper cut, edited and subtitled version is now available on: http://youtu.be/3wfNl2L0Gf8 I would kindly point you there. This video will be removed after ...
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[17-Jan-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
A memetic simplifcation of the debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0dM6j7pzQA

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Cinders O'Juniper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0dM6j7pzQA
Chomsky-Foucault Debate in 5 seconds
For those of you too lazy to go watch the videos, or read the book, yet are still curious about these 2 intellectuals' positions on human nature, here is the...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-0dM6j7pzQA/hqdefault.jpg


[17-Jan-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
I feel you could cut that up to apply to so many different things. Replace Chomsky with literally anyone or anything else and cut to Foucault laughing


[17-Jan-19 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Jan-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/kwci3oW.jpg

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[17-Jan-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
is this how politics works


[17-Jan-19 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXZBcZg8P0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXZBcZg8P0
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[17-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
only thing I know now is that it seems like nintendo is the only game company left which can be trusted to release good games


[17-Jan-19 02:34 AM] Honahue#0656
:ponythinking:


[17-Jan-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nintendo only really does micro transactions  int heir mobile or mini games while keeping big release games to actual game enhancing DLC


[17-Jan-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but not havign the dlc in a nintendo game doesnt make it unplayable as fuck liek an EA game


[17-Jan-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
their games are also, you know, actually good on release too


[17-Jan-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[17-Jan-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye focus on making actually good games


[17-Jan-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they know people would rather buy a fun game with good features and gameplay than a $60 blank disc full of micro transactions


[17-Jan-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want a switch because it;s library looks really fun


[17-Jan-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that new yoshi game looks good, zelda got the open world treatment, pokemon iis releasing this fall, splatoon is a thing


[17-Jan-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the pokemon 2019 game looks more open world, like breath of the wild


[17-Jan-19 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be into that


[17-Jan-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/gaming/747782/Pokemon-2019-Tease-If-new-Pokemon-Switch-game-looks-like-this-take-all-our-money

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Pokemon 2019: If new Nintendo Switch game looks like this, give Pi...
POKEMON fans have loved what Nintendo has done with Let's GO on Switch, but if the next RPG...
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[17-Jan-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/184/photos/976000/1518976.jpg?r=5c228e5be7a8a

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[17-Jan-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I feel like Nintendo doesn't make great games but they ahve a good formula and make competent games but compared to the crap that passes QC at other AAA devs it looks better in comparison


[17-Jan-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*throws money at screen but nothing happens*


[17-Jan-19 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
and they've got the nostalgia factor


[17-Jan-19 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean CoD 4 is like 10 years old but who the fuck cares?


[17-Jan-19 02:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
I have a weird player relationship with Breath of the Wild. I easily get bored with it because of its vast emptiness. But then I'll go and play it and like, fuck around for a few hours.


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
idk, BOTW was great, Mario Oddysey was as well


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
BOTW isn't empty at all lol


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like yesterday I found myself playing for several hours where I just fucked around travelling from one side of the map to the other without goal. I basically just blinked and all of a sudden I had my second to last Missing Memories memory and a white horse.


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
it has a lot to do


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odyssey wasn't as good


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sunshine was the perfect Mario game


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Honahue#0656
my last Nintendo was a Wii though so I haven't played anything recently other than Smash with my friends Switch and it's okay


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Sunshine was anything but perfect


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odyssey was good but no BoTW


[17-Jan-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Oddyesy was great


[17-Jan-19 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
I say "empty" for BOTW as in the world doesn't feel alive, unlike something like Witcher 3 where going anywhere in the world has life, so there's something going on.


[17-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
it was a return to the Mario 64 formula


[17-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Sunshine had lots of freedom but was more linear than 64


[17-Jan-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
and the galaxy titles were incredibly linear


[17-Jan-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
I never felt like Sunshine was worth doing more than the bare minimum for finishing the game


[17-Jan-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want to play octopath traveller, I knwo it;s a square enix game and not a nintendo made game but still


[17-Jan-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
that said, I'm more hype for Metroid Prime 4 than I was for BOTW and Odyessey and any game coming out this year


[17-Jan-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully we get soem footage at e3 this year


[17-Jan-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
i hope the next direct show something


[17-Jan-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm pining for a teaser, release date, developer, anything


[17-Jan-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
this could be the return to greatness for the series after Prime 3, Samus Returns was good but not enough to hold Metroid fans over


[17-Jan-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
and we don't talk about Other M


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Federation Force was weird


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d love for thme to announce a port/remake of the first 3 prime games for switch


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
and a new 2D game, too


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted to try federation force


[17-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
it's been a year and a half since Samus Returns


[17-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe we could get a new 2D game this year before Prime 4


[17-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
and also, I like Mario but like


[17-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
it's low on my list of favorite Nintendo franchises


[17-Jan-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
Metroid is my #1


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This might not be the talk for this channel tho


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
then probs Zelda


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
blame crow for starting it


[17-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-Jan-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
damn crowposting


[17-Jan-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Nbw5CiRyI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Nbw5CiRyI
Khrushchev in a nutshell
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[17-Jan-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
I want to know where the "omg we're so far in debt china owns us" thing came from


[17-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
china could certainly try to collect on the debt by demanding land and get a big fat no in return


[17-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

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National debt of the United States
The national debt of the United States is the debt, or unpaid borrowed funds, carried by the federal government of the United States, which is measured as the face value of the currently outstanding Treasury securities that have been issued by the Treasury and other federal g...
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[17-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.debate.org/opinions/is-all-work-slavery

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Is all work slavery?
Debate.org is a dynamic social community where you can voice your opinion on today’s hottest issues.
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[17-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[17-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
all of the "no's" seem to offer the exact same argument, that because you aren't "forced" to work at any specific job that you aren't a slave


[17-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
completely disregarding the fact that just because you aren't forced to work doesn't mean that you can just quit for another job


[17-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
plus ignoring the fact that despite being "paid", almost all that pay goes into just existing


[17-Jan-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, sure, you can go out and buy a new computer, some new fishing gear, some more welding materials, etc, but you'll have to go hungry to do that


[17-Jan-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
when pretty much all pay is being spent on surviving on top of being forced to work for long hours at high productivity, that's slavery


[17-Jan-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
surely the Free Market™ will solve this


[17-Jan-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, this is the free market's form of slavery


[17-Jan-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that a sizeable portion of the country thinks this is ok


[17-Jan-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
and that it's their fault that they aren't making enough money to do the things they want to do, they only just need a little more time to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and then they'll be millionaires


[17-Jan-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
TEMS


[17-Jan-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
TEMS?


[17-Jan-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome


[17-Jan-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/us/los-angeles-teachers-strike-day-3/index.html

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The Los Angeles teachers' strike keeps growing as the standoff 'fe...
The tug of war between Los Angeles teachers and their school district may be shifting toward the teachers as picket lines keep growing, the teachers' union said.
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[17-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/ice-almost-deported-u-s-born-marine-veteran-says-aclu-n959516

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ICE almost deported a U.S.-born Marine veteran, says ACLU
“Why did they think he was a noncitizen?" the ACLU said, after ICE detained Jilmar Ramos-Gomez, 27, who has PTSD.
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[17-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[17-Jan-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
ICE is trying to deport anyone who has a hispanic name now


[17-Jan-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/giuliani-no-longer-denying-trump-campaign-russia-collusion.html

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Trump Lawyer No Longer Denying Campaign Colluded With Russia
RIP, “No collusion.”
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[17-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically he's saying Trump was too dumb and/or ignorant


[17-Jan-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[17-Jan-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like being trump's lawyer has aged giuliani


[17-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's with Giulianis eyes


[17-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
"oh god kill me now"


[17-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ACLUofMichigan/status/1085543506528079873

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ACLU of Michigan (@ACLUofMichigan)
https://twitter.com/ACLUofMichigan/status/1085543506528079873
Jilmar Ramos-Gomez is a US citizen and decorated combat veteran. In Dec 2018, the Kent County Sheriff’s Department handed him to ICE so that he could be deported. He was held illegally for 3 days.
 
We are outraged and demand an immediate investigation.
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Twitter


[17-Jan-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/17/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-nancy-pelosi-economy/index.html

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Trump's shutdown nightmare: Choosing between the economy and the wall
If the government shutdown lasts much longer, President Donald Trump's only way out may involve a choice between two pillars of his political viability -- his border wall and his purring economy.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190108234047-trump-schumer-pelosi-super-tease.jpg


[17-Jan-19 10:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/01/16/hawaii-congressman-under-fire-asian-comment-dc-event/

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Hawaii congressman under fire for ‘Asian’ comment at DC event
Case reportedly said, ‘I’m an Asian trapped in a white body.’
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[17-Jan-19 01:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like something a weeb would say.


[17-Jan-19 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-says-student-debt-is-u-s-hurting-housing-market-11547657473

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Fed Says Student Debt Has Hurt the U.S. Housing Market
The Federal Reserve has linked rising student debt to a drop in homeownership among young Americans and the flight of college graduates from rural areas.
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[17-Jan-19 02:46 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 He answered the article of "Scientific America" you sent. What do you think?
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I have been reading it more than once, and there is something that always generates my doubts about it. For Putnam himself says that, according to his data, this can't come from some prejudice or discrimination because the homogenous group loses social capital at the same time as diversity increases.
A part of it, there is a longitudinal study about it that is a year after the Abascal article with respect to Putnam that tells us that coming or not from a diverse group **conditions** these same relations of social capital, but doesn't deny them: **This article provides strong evidence that the effect of community diversity is likely causal, but that prior preferences
for/against out-group neighbours may condition diversity’s impact. It also demonstrates that multiple
causal processes are in operation at the individual-level, occurring among both stayers and movers,
which collectively contribute to the emergence of average cross-sectional differences in attitudes between communities. Unique insights into the causal impact of community disadvantage also emerge.**
https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332

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Does Ethnic Diversity Have a Negative Effect on Attitudes towards ...
Abstract.   Studies demonstrate a negative association between community ethnic diversity and indicators of social cohesion (especially attitudes towards neighb
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[17-Jan-19 03:11 PM] Wonder Schwifty#4102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lK-SdaQL3A&feature=share


[17-Jan-19 03:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr i mean, some insight is required based on what the ideological composition of the people in the experiment is


[17-Jan-19 03:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People are a mixed bag.


[17-Jan-19 03:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some are subconsciously racist, others are more tolerant, the basis being that diversity has different effects based on what person it is being exposed to


[17-Jan-19 04:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The article you posted said that *stayers* tend to be more negatively affected by diversity, but *movers* much less so


[17-Jan-19 04:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/16/julian-castro-new-hampshire-campaign-2020?CMP=edit_2221

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Julián Castro flips the campaign script: 'I can win in 2020'
Castro travelled to New Hampshire after kicking off his campaign in Puerto Rico where citizens can’t vote in presidential elections
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[17-Jan-19 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow what are your thoughts on Castro? I'm curious


[17-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm going to check that part, thanks for pointing that out. I will see what I can reply to him. Thanks for answering.


[17-Jan-19 04:54 PM] Torr#5078
And not, im not a "literal fascist", lel


[17-Jan-19 05:02 PM] Torr#5078
...But I am being a little influenced by their ideas, for example: against adoption and marriage "sodomite", the existence of cultural Marxism, ideas against abortion, etc. I can share them if you want.


[17-Jan-19 05:02 PM] Torr#5078
just saying


[17-Jan-19 05:02 PM] Torr#5078
:selfboop:


[17-Jan-19 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah


[17-Jan-19 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ideas like these have no substance on their own anyway


[17-Jan-19 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's all just a ploy to keep the profit-hungry elites in power


[17-Jan-19 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminder that the "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory is nonsensical: if marxists want to be in top positions of the hierarchy, then why would they support "indoctrination" of children into anti-traditional, anti-hierarchal ideals?


[17-Jan-19 05:13 PM] ononim#8141
>sodomites


[17-Jan-19 05:13 PM] ononim#8141
:twismug:


[17-Jan-19 05:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where is Nile? I kinda miss his christian fundamentalist rambling


[17-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 **Cultural Marxism**: - Referring to the culture under Marxism, focusing on the content of the class struggle (the proletarian class), rejecting cultural reactionism. (Referred to as proletkult by Marxists).
Marxism affirms that the proletarian revolution is inevitable and that bourgeois revolutions brought civil rights. Communism (being Marxism implemented) will bring the end of social classes, capitalist injustice, etc., which will be global.
Already in the base Marxism come things like the end of wanting to destroy the family, the prohibition of private property and the destruction of nations, because the latter are "bourgeois creations" the same of the races. Those who will carry out this will not be the Marxists themselves but it will be done by ideologies that share a relationship with Marxism in spirit in the destruction of the state, family, values, etc., such as liberals, feminists, etc.


[17-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Torr#5078
-


[17-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Torr#5078
I was looking for what they told me, more or less.


[17-Jan-19 05:34 PM] Torr#5078
:noseboop:


[17-Jan-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who told you this?


[17-Jan-19 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because marxism is not just an ideology focused on revolution, it's also a worldview based on materialism and modes of production


[17-Jan-19 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, nowhere do marxists claim that the family nucleus should be destroyed, that is just babble


[17-Jan-19 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have also never heard of the "proletkult" term


[17-Jan-19 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Through a cursory google glance, it is said that proletkult was a movement, condemned and abandoned by Russian communists in the midst of the 1920's


[17-Jan-19 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which brings me to another point


[17-Jan-19 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The left is not a monolith


[17-Jan-19 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are marxists who disagree sternly with feminists, who sometimes also disagree with pro-market liberals. Marxists, in particular, hate pro-market "liberals" with a passion. There is no way these people could direct a large-scale secret societal conspiracy.


[17-Jan-19 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's so much wrong with your description that it ends up being comical


[17-Jan-19 06:27 PM] Torr#5078
A guy in a political forum not in English.


[17-Jan-19 06:27 PM] Torr#5078
He gave me five definitions when I asked him about the matter.
Cultural Marxism: -
1. Referring to the art modernism-progressism under Lenin (referred to as Kulturbolschewismus by the Nazis)
2. Referring to the Frankfurt School. (See his critique of industrial culture, etc.) He extrapolate the class struggle to a kind of identity struggle of minorities. 
3. Referring to the countercultural of the 60s onwards as Marxist/communist/progressive/socialist/hippie-communal employed by the neoconservatives
4. Referring to socialist realism, which had a beginning and a high point with Stalin. (See Gorky in literature, Brodsky in plastic visual arts and Dzerzhinsky in music)
5. Referring to the cultural under Marxism, focusing on the content of the class struggle (in the proletarian class), rejecting cultural reactionism. (Referred to as proletkult by Marxists).


[17-Jan-19 06:27 PM] Torr#5078
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[17-Jan-19 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Cultural reactionism"


[17-Jan-19 06:28 PM] Torr#5078
I'm going to ask him right now


[17-Jan-19 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many theorists in the Frankfurt School, such as Theodor Adorno, were elitists in a sense


[17-Jan-19 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You really should not be judging such a diverse ideological current as a monolith


[17-Jan-19 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr btw, where are you from?


[17-Jan-19 06:30 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Im a mexican


[17-Jan-19 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wat


[17-Jan-19 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Mexican
>fascist sympathizer


[17-Jan-19 06:31 PM] Torr#5078
>:c im not, i just ask some spanish white guy


[17-Jan-19 06:31 PM] Torr#5078
Which is christian... and fascist.


[17-Jan-19 06:31 PM] Torr#5078
lel


[17-Jan-19 06:31 PM] Torr#5078
:Upvote:


[17-Jan-19 06:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, after my home country Brazil was dumb enough to elect such a guy as Jair Bolsonaro, i don't expect too much from this world


[17-Jan-19 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pretty solid evidence that nationalism is inherently self-defeating


[17-Jan-19 06:33 PM] Torr#5078
I only write what they say to look for a reply later.


[17-Jan-19 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr 
>Mexican
>"white"
>fascist sympathizer
>against diversity
>brony


[17-Jan-19 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It takes an effort to be this stupid tbh


[17-Jan-19 06:44 PM] Torr#5078
Not really, as I said, I would only like to know an adequate answer. Im liberal..


[17-Jan-19 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But you said you were inspired by fascist ideology.


[17-Jan-19 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're literally peddling alt-right (read: nazi) propaganda by using "cultural marxism" sincerely as a part of your worldview.


[17-Jan-19 06:47 PM] Torr#5078
For the ideas, but I do not explain myself well (because it is difficult to write in English), a motivation in case I meet those ideas again in the future.


[17-Jan-19 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say you should cease taking your information from an obviously biased man who is trying to pull you into his movement and actually read some books


[17-Jan-19 06:47 PM] Torr#5078
I look for things to attack, you could say.


[17-Jan-19 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll just leave this statement:
**being a brony and a conservative is inherently self-defeating.**


[17-Jan-19 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's not avoiding talking to you because he knows you're an useful idiot. Bronies, in the end, are a "symptom of the modernist decadent society" to him, so he'd throw you into a camp anyways if his ideology ever took power.


[17-Jan-19 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hitler would easily have ordered people like us to be lumped into Auschwitz alongside the homossexuals.


[17-Jan-19 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd advise you not to be "interested" in what he says. Instead, take it with a hundred buckets of salt.


[17-Jan-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Torr abstract studies into behavior of many agents in a system are important for understanding psychological dynamics, but you should realize the context


[17-Jan-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It basically says, to my understanding, that going from 100% agreement between people to not means that there may be some conflict.


[17-Jan-19 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
>1. Referring to the art modernism-progressism under Lenin (referred to as Kulturbolschewismus by the Nazis)


[17-Jan-19 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
This is like loudest dogwhistle this side of (((parenthesis)))


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
But having everyone agree isn't necessarily the most desirable outcome


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
For example, say you are deciding on the best course of action as far as opening up a new business


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
>2. Referring to the Frankfurt School. (See his critique of industrial culture, etc.) **He extrapolate the class struggle to a kind of identity struggle of minorities. **


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
you and all your friends like Hitler


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
you believe a business using nazi branding would do well


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you intend to take the business multinational


[17-Jan-19 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
Y'all keep saying that things, I don't think you know that they mean


[17-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hav outsiders in your group that tell you about how people elsewhere feel


[17-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
you might reconsider your branding and arrive at an ultimately better solution.


[17-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Diversity of thought helps keep us from only focusing on very narrow options and alerts us to problems earlier.


[17-Jan-19 07:03 PM] ononim#8141
Absolutelly love fashes crowning a bucnh of boring old guys from germany criticizing media industry and thinking that jazz is fascist as some grand conspiracy that birthed modern liberl IdPol


[17-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind that the world itself is diverse


[17-Jan-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you cannot make it less diverse


[17-Jan-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
So diversity of your own specific segment may be helpful when you extrapolate things to further parts of the world.


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, say that your community becomes more diverse


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you oppose this


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
>4. Referring to socialist realism, which had a beginning and a high point with Stalin. (See Gorky in literature, Brodsky in plastic visual arts and Dzerzhinsky in music)


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
you likely cannot do anything about it.


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus, if social cohesion is your goal


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
your best course of action is to be tolerant, rather than to fight what can't be stopped.


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the long run, the new people will assimilate.


[17-Jan-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
Have you guys compared Stalinist SocRealism and stuff you call cultural marxism? The guy had people he deemed dangerous be called "rootless cosmopolits" for fcuk's sake


[17-Jan-19 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
@ononim I'm going to be blunt here


[17-Jan-19 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Torr understands marxism


[17-Jan-19 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor does he want to


[17-Jan-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and explaining any of it to him won't help anyone


[17-Jan-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
"cultural marxism" is something conservatives like to use to slander liberals to ignore their ideas


[17-Jan-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's alt-right "boxing"


[17-Jan-19 07:08 PM] ononim#8141
The only thing that even roughly could be logical is calling 60 and onward current of New Left as "cultural marxism", but every whine about dem ~~da joos~~ oh sorry, forgot my dogwhistle :^) "cultural marxists" as some sort of grand concpiracy (made by a bucnh of boring old people who hated jazz) to "destroy" le west and not evolution in western left


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could be called "Moon Politics" and mean the exact same thing.


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't tend to like to debate liberals on the actual merits of things


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause remember


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism values unity


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
I am less responding to him and more respodning in general space, to people who lurk and may just unwitingly swallow the trash


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
That "social cohesion"


[17-Jan-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
By creating a clearly-not-okay label, they can make others fear to consider other things.


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Homosexuality" is hated


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
"The gays" are not


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
**these are the same thing**


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The specific words used matter because of how they sound.


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Marxism" sounds bad because it has an x in it, no joke.


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, that's the core nazi definition of "socialism", which is needed to comprehend why it's a far-right ideology. When nazis mention "socialism", they actually mean some sort of "societal camaraderie" in which all "strange" or "alien" elements should be purged away


[17-Jan-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Cultural Marxism" has a lot of syllables and is vague as fukk and sounds insidious.


[17-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Torr#5078
I think I created some misunderstandings here. But I'm reading you guys.


[17-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Socialism" in "National Socialism" was just a lie.


[17-Jan-19 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[17-Jan-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, sure Germany employed a lot of state workers and gave them vacation time, but like


[17-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was just a practical measure.


[17-Jan-19 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not supposed to mean "welfare for the people"nor Marx's ideals


[17-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you can steal your enemy's word, you win quite a bit.


[17-Jan-19 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hitler's own definition of "true socialism" was pulled out of his ass


[17-Jan-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, Nazism was an excuse to keep people in line and gas the jews.


[17-Jan-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It worked pretty well. Always remember that at it's core, fascism and similar are based on being dishonest *even to themselves*


[17-Jan-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
A consistent ideology isn't the goal, power is.


[17-Jan-19 07:21 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I know he sees me as "usable", but I don't want him to see me as an enemy. (that could be bad)


[17-Jan-19 07:21 PM] Torr#5078
Now lets see what you wrote. xd


[17-Jan-19 07:44 PM] Torr#5078
@Nebbie What i have of cultural marxism (Not for the guy above that I quoted) is this: gave explanations mixing the class struggle with economic issues to explain various phenomena such as history, human geography, sociology ..., calling their authors as "Marxists". These authors presented, from a perspective and Marxist solutions, the transformation of society (Transformation that was going to be produced independent of ideologies by things such as the irruption of the Internet, expansion of the global media, technological revolution, globalization where authors of at that time they spoke more about mundialism than globalization, etc.).


[17-Jan-19 07:44 PM] Torr#5078
Is correct?


[17-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
>interruption of the internet


[17-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure, it's confusingly-worded and likely a bunch of bullshit to begin with.


[17-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[17-Jan-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Cultural marxism" is a scare term


[17-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
no one in their right minds wants the internet to be interrupted


[17-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Torr#5078
bad english xd


[17-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not quite "lizard people run the gov't"


[17-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the core idea is that there's some force of COMMUNISTS trying to kill...something or other...by making culture value class struggles.


[17-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Conspiracy theory)


[17-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
did you mean eruption of the internet?


[17-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[17-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is the problem, @Torr?


[17-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like. what is believed to be the thing that is happening that should not be happening related to this?


[17-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Torr#5078
The thing i say is no one wants to destroy Western culture but what we see is that Western culture has evolved, the world has changed, and to that change we need analysis and answers, that is what they are trying, not an evil plan.


[17-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Torr#5078
is only a analysis


[17-Jan-19 07:48 PM] Torr#5078
mm


[17-Jan-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I just don't take seriously things that seem to be needlessly complicated and obtuse.


[17-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, I hav some idea of what "Western Culture" *is*....but probably not the same idea as what people who usually talk of "Cultural Marxism" think.


[17-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the core of western culture is basically democracy+capitalism


[17-Jan-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
individualism with a belief in self-determination and protection of dissent.


[17-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Torr#5078
<https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/irruption?q=irruption>


[17-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Torr#5078
@Crow


[17-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even *that* is not really unified.


[17-Jan-19 07:51 PM] Torr#5078
yeah


[17-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I take a very pragmatic approach and don't really like to talk about really abstract ideologies much.


[17-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
oh, so the internet is being blamed for the spread of "cultural marxism"


[17-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
I like to talk about societal utilitarian benefits and from there analyze the practical implications of things.


[17-Jan-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like the diversity example


[17-Jan-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Diversity has advantages.


[17-Jan-19 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
that's hilariously hypocritical because nazis (the "alt-right") got a massive boost from the internet as well


[17-Jan-19 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
it's only recently that platforms realized their sites were riddled with nazi soap boxes


[17-Jan-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
the reason why "cultural marxism" is attacked because it's always framed as if it would turn every single person into a faceless mob and wants to enslave everyone to work for powerful overlords


[17-Jan-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
which is exactly what we do right now under neoliberal capitalism, only framed in such a way that it makes it look like you have a way out when you don't actually have a way out


[17-Jan-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, onto much more concrete things


[17-Jan-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Torr What was the deal about adoption and marriage...of gays?


[17-Jan-19 07:58 PM] Torr#5078
:Cakelestia:


[17-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Torr#5078
I'm going to translate. moment. hehe


[17-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
pfft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

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[17-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
"In contemporary usage, the term Cultural Marxism identifies an anti-semitic conspiracy theory that misrepresents the Frankfurt School intellectuals as part of continual academic and intellectual efforts to undermine and destroy Western culture, then to be replaced with Marxist culture."


[17-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically a conspiracy theory to demonize leftist movements


[17-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Jan-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
because there's no other way to demonize "free" healthcare, "free" education, "free" housing, and "free" food


[17-Jan-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
other than by saying that they want to be the next stalin or pol pot


[17-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
It looks like 1981 is happening again


[17-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
It happen to my family its gonna happen again


[17-Jan-19 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Jan-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/1085979209766502400

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[17-Jan-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/trump-pelosi-letter-trip.html

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[17-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], tweet was deleted


[17-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Torr#5078
I think I finished the translation; last revision.


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
Remember, I did not say these things. okay?


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
@Nebbie To oppose to homosexual adoption there are 2 very reasonable ways in my opinion
> Discuss for hours through divergent studies among themselves about whether Sodomites are negligent or not
> Hold that homosexual adoption represents the violation of the payment of their rights

The first way is very frequent, so much that Nicolás Márquez uses it in "El libro de la nueva izquierda" as you can see in the images (Torr here, see >(1))


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
```”In addition to the risks exposed, in 2010 Dr. George A. Rekers (professor of neuropsychiatry and behavioral sciences in the medical school of the University of South Carolina in the USA) presented his scientific report on other sequels suffered by children adopted by homosexual couples at a symposium in Mexico dedicated to the effect, and arrived at the following conclusions: "there was a greater probability that adopted children develop a homosexual tendency, than those who live with mother and father, since minors tend to live and copy roles of their parents "adding that they also suffer "Greater promiscuity in adolescence or maturity, addictions, psychiatric disorders, suicidal tendencies and high number of sexually transmitted diseases” ``` (2)


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
```*Would not it be discriminatory to deny the child for adoption to two sodomites who demand it? It would be as "discriminative" as when a heterosexual couple is often denied adoption (as usually happens) whenever it does not comply with environmental, psychological or age, health or economic requirements, and yet, in these cases, no one cackles because of “discrimination”, since it is common sense to warn that the priority is always that the environment is conducive to every concept for the welfare of the child.”* ```


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
In my opinion, one of the problems of this argument is that we get into controversial issues for science, which he himself recognizes. However, I think that in view of the possible weakness that this argument may have, we must also resort to another less popular one
```“And while it is true that there are still insufficient or categorical data to reach definitive conclusions and there are still no statistical studies that allow us to put an end to the controversy, there are already numerous books with testimonies of people who, after being educated by homosexual parents, narrate experiences that are as painful as they are unpleasant and that for reasons of decorum we refuse to transcribe.”``` (3)


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
In addition to saying that homosexual marriages should not be legalized because Sodomites are negligent, homoparental adoption is contrary to one of the first rights a child has:””Right to their biological parents””
Since parents give birth to a person, they have the responsibility to take charge of bringing into the world someone who did not even ask to be born, and from that moment, that child has a commitment to those parents.
This has to be kept very clear, the commitment was with __his biological mother and father. __
The child who loses the opportunity to live the realization of that commitment is a victim to society, and as a victim must compensate them with something that resembles their biological parents by adoption.


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
Since the parents of adopted children are male and female and it is impossible for it to be otherwise, except for promiscuous technologies, all children must be adopted in a heteroparental way, in homo-parental or single-parent adoptions.
This argument can be perceived in a strong and weak way:
In the strong form it is said that it is impossible to have uniparentales or homoparentales parents within the humanity, in such a way that if the homoparental or uniparental adoption occurs there is no resemblance between the adoptive parent(s) and the biological ones, therefore, the adoption is immoral and contrary to its purpose.
This criterion should not replace the one that the families that adopt are not negligent. That is to say, this does not mean that if biological mother and father have vices also adoptive mother and father also, the adoptive and biological parents can be seen in everything except the vices
All that holds is that without these sexual characteristics there is no resemblance


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
-
Finally, I would like to say how I would like **to solve the problem of deficient orphanages**:
This, in my opinion, would be:
> Filing negligent parents and allocating the proceeds of the fine to adoption centers in the form of a grant
> Give orphanages the opportunity to charge parents who entrust their children with these

As well:
> Anyone who does not end up in a private orphanage, the army
> Lowering the age to work
> Flexibilize the granting of "in loco parentis" private-public institutions and of the children themselves.


[17-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Torr#5078
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**End. Torr here now:**
(1) Looks like the book is not in English, so I translate the images
(2) Here: https://www.bioeticaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/rekers_adoption_gay.pdf put ctrl f and “promiscuity” “psychiatric disorder”; also the wikipedia say the next: I forgot to put the image, ups
(3) Here is cited (but is in Spanish, sorry): "How are the children adopted by homosexuals? This reveals the studies. https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/como-son-los-hijos-adoptados-por-homosexuales-esto-revelan-los-estudios-85128/, and Woman narrates in book the drama of being raised by a homosexual father https://www.aciprensa.com/noticias/mujer-narra-en-libro-el-drama-de-ser-criada-por-padre-homosexual-26480))


[17-Jan-19 09:55 PM] Torr#5078
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[17-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
eugh


[17-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the basic argument is as follows:


[17-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
1: Kids raised by gays tend to act like they've been socially ostracized


[17-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
2: If we disallow straights from adoption when they're FUKKING WEIRD FUKK WEIRD PEOPLE FUKK EM TO DEATH, we should deny all gays adoption cause they're fukking weird


[17-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
3: Since a child up for adoption would've gotten a mom and a dad otherwise, replacing that with anything different is absolutely haram


[17-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
that thing sounds like it's arguing that letting households that physically or mentally abuses children is better than letting gays adopt


[17-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, you can never giv an adopted child the exact same parents


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
by its very nature, you hav to giv them different ones


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
why does the gender of each matter here?


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you could giv a child to two alcoholics instead of two cocaine addicts


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
does that matter?


[17-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What makes one being male and one being female matter?


[17-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an absurdity to argue that just because adoptive parents aren't identical, they can't be accepted


[17-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'd hav to at some point draw a line of where things are too different


[17-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is nothing here indicating how to draw that line, which leaves me to believe it's based on bias against this particular difference.


[17-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, as for 2


[17-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again it's a question of line-drawing


[17-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
tho at least here we hav existing lines


[17-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the argument essentially relies on being gay to be on the bad side of those lines


[17-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
...but it isn't


[17-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being gay is nowhere near as likely to harm you as the kinds of disorders that generally disqualify you from adoption


[17-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, it's extremely variable whether it's harmful to you at all, which leads to my next point


[17-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gay people are discriminated against


[17-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
this isn't saying this particular thing is discrimination (yet)


[17-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but on other matters, gay people *are definitely* being discriminated against as a whole


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
when people are discriminated against, it causes very bad harmful effects to them


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wsj.com/articles/poll-rigging-for-trump-and-creating-womenforcohen-one-it-firms-work-order-11547722801

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Cohen Hired IT Firm to Rig Early CNBC, Drudge Polls to Favor Trump
In early 2015, the owner of a small tech company showed up at Trump Tower to collect $50,000 for helping Michael Cohen try to rig online polls in Donald Trump’s favor before the presidential campaign. He says he never got what he was owed.
https://images.wsj.net/im-48017/social


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The extra uncertainty and social pressure and such can drive them to suicide, make them less productive workers, all that


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is very likely the source of that variability


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
being gay doesn't hurt you


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
but people who don't like you being gay do.


[17-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, to address whether *this* is discriminatory: yes it is


[17-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
and think about it, @Torr


[17-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's circular, indirectly


[17-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
it uses that gays are hurt by discrimination to argue to discriminate against them


[17-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
by denying them the ability to raise children.


[17-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is part of how discrimination is perpetuated.


[17-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You show that X group has it worse, so we should deny Y to X group, but them lakking Y, Z, and Alpha is *why* they hav it worse


[17-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
even the very words saying you will deny them Y make things worse for them.


[17-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And finally, this is what 1 is about


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course kids are going to be hurt by society saying their parents shouldn't've raised them.


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait this is from a Spanish-language source?


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What country


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico, apparently.


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
To further attack the translated study, George Alan Rekers is a ordained southern baptist minister and has had a history of using his neurobiologist credentials to advance an all around hyper-conservative baptist agenda in the name of science, in as far as proposed and practiced conversion therapy practices based on pseudoscientific premises. He probably couldn't get anything published in the US because the peer review process would have killed it. So like Sam Harris publishing a morality book he has to go through some alternative means to avoid the peer review.

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[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean the overwhelmingly Catholic country with a cultural tradition of _machismo?_


[17-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, gonna listen to them about the rights of gays.


[17-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might as well listen to the Japanese talking about saving the whales, or Americans talk about healthy eating.


[17-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
(that last one is a meme, most americans know they don't eat healthily)


[17-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but they hav trouble with explaining why the eat unhealthily and finding alternatives.


[17-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hence they'd be a bad source of advice on the matter.


[17-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way, Mexico tolerates the gays in practice, but has trouble with it.


[17-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
whole food (like raw chicken/beef/vegetables/etc that're cooked at home)


[17-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to why one would argue against gays raising children when they don't like gays aside of to discriminate directly by denying gays the ability to raise children, @Torr:


[17-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, the biggest thing that contributes to discrimination is not being exposed to something


[17-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
fish is the best meat for humans


[17-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
to only talk about it in the abstract


[17-Jan-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why "homosexuality" is hated, but "my gay friend" is not


[17-Jan-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
one is a scary abstract concept, the other is not


[17-Jan-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to hate Jeff when he's nice and clearly human and helps you out as a neighbor


[17-Jan-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you can dehumanize, you can justify any hatred.


[17-Jan-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if people *are raised by* gays


[17-Jan-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if parents meet with gay parents


[17-Jan-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
then suddenly you hav tolerance of gays developing *in children*


[17-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to change how society feels, change what the children learn growing up.


[17-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the most direct way, the most effective.


[17-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[17-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If gays adopt children, society becomes tolerant of gays within a generation.


[17-Jan-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus, if someone considers tolerance of gays evil, it is in their best interests to nuke adoption.


[17-Jan-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hence why they would create all this bullshit to justify doing so.


[17-Jan-19 10:19 PM] Torr#5078
He does not say that gays are bad, but @Nebbie "there was a greater probability that adopted children develop a homosexual tendency, than those who live with mother and father, since minors tend to live and copy roles of their parents "adding that they also suffer "Greater promiscuity in adolescence or maturity, addictions, psychiatric disorders, suicidal tendencies and high number of sexually transmitted diseases”


[17-Jan-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
@Torr what in the instance of a female homosexual couple where one is fertilized by IVF to an unknown sperm donor


[17-Jan-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
What would the author say


[17-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Torr#5078
mm


[17-Jan-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
This argument is very smelly


[17-Jan-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
smells like horseshit


[17-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Torr#5078
I dont know, i would need to question that


[17-Jan-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The issue here is those effects are the ones that you would expect from a marginalized group in society.


[17-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
In other words, this very discrimination is likely what causes the promiscuity and addictions and disorders and suicidal tendencies.


[17-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if kids grew up tolerant of gays, the effects would eventually vanish as those kids grew up and discrimination went down.


[17-Jan-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind especially on suicidal tendencies that they are often the result of failing to liv up to social expectations.


[17-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If all your friends hate gays and you are gay, it becomes very easy to kill yourself.


[17-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[17-Jan-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
after gay marriage was legalized


[17-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
the suicide rate among gay children dropped greatly in the US.


[17-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this wasn't just "once SCOTUS ruled on it"


[17-Jan-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was per-state


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, each time a state legalized gay marriage


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
gay youth suicide rates immediately dropped


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if a state didn't legalize it, the suicide rates stayed about the same


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
the suicide rates never went bakk up, either


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
While the study doesn't outright make mention as gays being bad the implications as I'm reading them is that they are, since much of the outcomes as stated as possible for the children of a gay couple would be associated with social alienation by their peers on account of having gay parents. For comparison purposes, I would suggest one would have to look into how kids adopted to gay families hold up to kids in hetero families since that comparison is lacking in the study; it'd be as easy to say that given the insult "you're adopted" exists there'd be the same sort of stigma for adopted kids with hetero couples.


[17-Jan-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And quite a few states legalized it before SCOTUS made their ruling.


[17-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
the guy couldn't get any of his bullshit published in the US because there's actually a fact checking system called peer review in place


[17-Jan-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is **incredibly** strong evidence that the legal status of gay relationships is a primary driver of the very things that that argument is using to justify hurting their legal status.


[17-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
so he went to a super conservative catholic country to spew his bullshit in instead


[17-Jan-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider rationally, how you would feel about yourself if you were told your parents' relationship is illegal.


[17-Jan-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wouldn't you want to kill yourself?


[17-Jan-19 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't feel that the illegitimacy of my parents has much transience to me


[17-Jan-19 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
but I'm speshal so


[17-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/1Z4L4GG.jpg

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[17-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
neoliberal capitalism in a nutshell


[17-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Torr#5078
Mm, i know, i also dont like the idea to use this arguments. @Nebbie @Crow What do you think in the part of "to solve the problem of deficient orphanages"?


[17-Jan-19 10:30 PM] Torr#5078
hehe


[17-Jan-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the most uselessly stingy lunch policy ever


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
how do they think this saves costs


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It seems crazy, @Torr


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, fining people to pay for other stuff is a broken system, first off


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"anyone who does not end up in a private orphanage, the army"


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means you try to find delinquency, which means you form an adversarial relationship


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
this leads to distrust and conflict


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], the owner apparently retracted that <https://imgur.com/gallery/I9XvMmI>


[17-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Torr#5078
@byte[] He say this: "Yes, i consider that son a bastard. The in vitro breaks the uniqueness of marriage."


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
it basically incentivizes messing up parents being mostly good being able to raise children in favor of crushing them to find the PERFECT ULTRA PARENTS...who don't exist


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
furthermore


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
putting kids in the army is absurd


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
>in vitro breaks the uniqueness of marriage


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and lowering the age to work when kids need more education than ever...is clearly designed to economically harm orphans.

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[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"In vitro breaks the uniqueness of marriage"


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
> uniqueness of marriage


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is wrong with this guy lol


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
hahahah


[17-Jan-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Torr Ask him what sort of ethical code he abides by


[17-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I don't think that would fix orphanages


[17-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it would just hurt the ability to get kids decent parents


[17-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and appears designed to promote fascism


[17-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
by making kids poor and militant and creating very strict standards of parents with extreme monitoring

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[17-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Torr#5078
Let me ask mm


[17-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
I saw an interview with a ex-member of the hitler youth, and he said he still feels like the nazis and hitler did nothing wrong, even though he logically recognizes that what they did was wrong


[17-Jan-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
it was years ago though, and I don't remember where I saw it


[17-Jan-19 10:44 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 He say: "Well, I really like the tradition, the rules and the institutions of those who bequeathed it to us, although I am also creating my own ethics."


[17-Jan-19 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, just... traditionalism for its own sake?


[17-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Torr#5078
I think yes, but he confuse me sometimes


[17-Jan-19 10:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did he cite any philosophical books? Any author?


[17-Jan-19 10:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or none at all?


[17-Jan-19 10:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~If he did, i bet it was either Julius Evola or the bible tbh, no other possibilities~~


[17-Jan-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
If his entire ethical judgment is based purely on the fact that a thing existed he's not really making a ethical or morale judgment, but a fetishization of a thing without understanding its meaning.

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[17-Jan-19 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yup


[17-Jan-19 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fascism is, at its core, aesthetical, not ethical


[17-Jan-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
In short, he's been captured by the hauntology of capitalist reproduction.

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[17-Jan-19 10:52 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 The only philosopher he mentions is Nietzsche. He say


[17-Jan-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then he's a slave moralist if all he wants to do is replicate the ethical and moral principles of the past.


[17-Jan-19 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did he say he supports or condemns Nietzsche?


[17-Jan-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
As opposed to literally nuking it all and becoming ubermensch on his own principles.


[17-Jan-19 10:53 PM] Torr#5078
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Support, i always see him mention him


[17-Jan-19 10:56 PM] Torr#5078
Sorry, nebbie, I was watching what the guy was writing to me


[17-Jan-19 10:56 PM] Torr#5078
so lets see..


[17-Jan-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/17/trump-postpones-pelosis-overseas-trip-because-of-shutdown.html

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Trump stops Pelosi's trip to visit troops in Afghanistan right bef...
Trump's action came a day after Pelosi urged him to reschedule his upcoming State of the Union address to Congress or deliver it in writing.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/01/17/105685224-1547756330822preview.1910x1000.jpg


[17-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, less than an hour beforehand


[17-Jan-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
that just guarantees that pelosi won't invite him to congress


[17-Jan-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
since she only suggested that she might not invite him


[17-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46906046

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46906046
France activates no-deal Brexit plan
Prime Minister Edouard Philippe says a no-deal Brexit is now looking increasingly likely.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/00E8/production/_105223200_38318a79-31b9-4ddf-b3dd-7d1fca49281c.jpg


[17-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
this is going to hurt


[17-Jan-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck britain


[17-Jan-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
unless they call off brexit


[17-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
which is the most intelligent and logical thing to do


[17-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
that means it won't happen


[17-Jan-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this letter is passive agressive as fuck

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/535583973464604672/trump201.png


[17-Jan-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
his signature looks like sailboats in the water


[17-Jan-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's so salty it would give the australian salt flats a run for it;s money


[17-Jan-19 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[17-Jan-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's signature is actually done with a sharpie btw


[17-Jan-19 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/donald-trump-marker-pen-sharpie-russia-putin-scandal

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Notes on a scandal: why Trump loves to scrawl in marker pen
Trump’s remarks about Russian election interference were covered in marker pen scrawls – it’s been his favoured mode of communication for decades
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[17-Jan-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he loves to scrawl in marker aand tear up random paperwork


[17-Jan-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s very telling of how he ran his businesses and why msot of thme ended in bankruptcy


[17-Jan-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
durign hhis business years he's likely taken black markers to a lot of contracts demanding payment and thne tore thme to shreds to get rid of the evidence


[17-Jan-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and he's compensating


[17-Jan-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything has to be big with him because he has to compensate for his tiny tiny hands


[17-Jan-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-46901248

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A reformer China's ruling party wants to forget
Zhao Ziyang was a Chinese leader who opposed sending tanks into Tiananmen Square nearly 30 years ago.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/5691/production/_105216122_gettyimages-51399152.jpg


[17-Jan-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
"China's Communist Party has spent nearly 30 years trying to erase the events of 4 June 1989 from history and young people here have little knowledge or understanding of what happened that day. The story of Zhao Ziyang is proof those efforts still continue: the man who was the highest ranking Party official in the country at the time of those momentous events is now expunged from the record and, even in death, still regarded as a threat."


[18-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Torr#5078
@AaronMk What is the "hauntology of capitalist reproduction"?


[18-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauntology

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Hauntology
Hauntology (a portmanteau of haunting and ontology) is a concept coined by philosopher Jacques Derrida in his 1993 book Spectres of Marx. The term refers to the situation of temporal, historical, and ontological disjunction in which the apparent presence of being is replaced ...


[18-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Torr#5078
so, in the sense of derrida?


[18-Jan-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The reproduction of history, irregardless of whether or not it existed, but mostly as it did't exist. Beyond the point of physical commodification capitalism commodifies images, marketing. Most often this means reproducing an image of, or a false image of the past as part of a nostalgia. In cases like Disneyworld, it's to recreate an image of an America that never was as simulation, or as simulacra. Image turns from something of meaningful record or interest into a pure selling point.


[18-Jan-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reproduction of the past as commoditized selling is also that of Stranger Things, in which an eighties that never was, devoid of the social instability and tension of its own period is created and becomes a brand.


[18-Jan-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
The production of such images because a means by which capitalism's values are impressed and reinforced.


[18-Jan-19 12:12 AM] Torr#5078
:ponythinking:


[18-Jan-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
apparently some conservative types like limbaugh are claiming that once there's been 30 days of shutdown that the president can unilaterally fire all furloughed employees through some sort of "worker review" process


[18-Jan-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t think they know how a government actually works


[18-Jan-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/us/politics/shutdown-federal-workers-strike.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/us/politics/shutdown-federal-workers-strike.html
Why Don’t Unpaid Federal Workers Walk Off the Job?
Federal law prohibits strikes, public servants care about their work and other reasons airports and prisons aren’t in chaos, despite a protracted federal shutdown.
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[18-Jan-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
"The National Labor Relations Act extends a right to strike to American workers — but it specifically does not give that right to government workers. A law passed during President Jimmy Carter’s administration bars federal workers from striking. When air traffic controllers walked off the job in 1981, demanding better pay and working conditions, President Ronald Reagan ordered them to return to work. When they did not, he fired them."


[18-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact, even when given enough money to pay for all of their food, rent, utilities, etc, about 93% of people keep working


[18-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
because people like to work


[18-Jan-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont like to work but i like when work gives me enough to pay for thing si need to survive on top of things i enjoy doing and buying


[18-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
it's not that you don't like to work, it's that you don't like the work you're doing


[18-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
most people don't have the leisure to go around doing different jobs until they find something they like doing


[18-Jan-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The reason people aren;t as into work as thye used to be is ebcause there's less and less in it for them. less pay per inflation, less coverage for medical purposes, less everything in total.  jobs these days in the mid to lower ranks are becoming less and less worth it as corporations try to do what amazon has done


[18-Jan-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the government isnt even paying it's employees and atleast afew congressmen have expressed an interest in cancellign the backpay that coems after a shutdown


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
a resolution was already passed and signed by trump to give backpay


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m glad that got settled


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
it was unanimous in the senate, and 7 republicans voted against it in the house


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[18-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that it gives backpay only when the shutdown ends


[18-Jan-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... by thne it might be too late for backpay to make any difference


[18-Jan-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610

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[18-Jan-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're also on day 26 i think so soon some program fundings will run out


[18-Jan-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Hacker news


[18-Jan-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thinkt he debt ceiling get's debated in march


[18-Jan-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/feinstein-barr-vote-hinges-mueller-report-release/2591477002/

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Top Judiciary Democrat: Vote to confirm Barr hinges on commitment ...
Sen. Dianne Feinstein said that she had become increasingly "concerned" about whether Barr would be willing to share Mueller's work in full.
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[18-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/535480721800822794


[18-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
at first  glance, he doesn't seem to be a neoliberal


[18-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
so I don't see anything wrong with him at first glance


[18-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/04/five-policy-facts-about-dnc-keynote-speaker-julian-castro/


[18-Jan-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
5) He believes that government spending can fuel growth: Derek Thompson spoke to Castro in 2010 about the reasons why San Antonio was America's most "recession-proof city." He pointed to three factors underpinning its resilience: "The first is the health care and the bio sciences, which have a $16 billion impact on the local economy. The second is education....Because we have such a young population, the education sector is not only business, but big business. The third is government investment. We still have several military installations."


[18-Jan-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
a neoliberal would say that a freer market fuels growth


[18-Jan-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
granted, that doesn't say he doesn't think that a freer market fuels growth, just that he realizes that government spending can also fuel growth


[18-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
there's really not that much information about him


[18-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
which usually signifies he's just another neoliberal


[18-Jan-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberals fly under the radar because it's normal to be neoliberal in the US


[18-Jan-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here's to hoping he clarifies his policy proposals further tbh


[18-Jan-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Hey guys, CastroSauce here and today we're pouring money into education and retraining initiatives to get everyone coding. We're sure this won't result in a total devaluation of coding as a marketing trait and thus giving our friends at Google a work base that can be continually under bid. Remember kids: brain power is the new politics! So plug in thos noggins of yours so we keep our Dear Leaders Elon Must and Jeff Bezos around for another five-thousand years!"


[18-Jan-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest power move that pelosi could make is fly commercial for her tour


[18-Jan-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
but the likelihood of a neoliberal elitist deigning to bump shoulders with the masses is extremely low


[18-Jan-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
she didn't get to her position by being buddy-buddy with workers, but by being supported by those who exploit them


[18-Jan-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/2019/01/16/fake-copies-of-washington-post-handed-out-in-dc/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/2019/01/16/fake-copies-of-washington-post-handed-out-in-dc/
Fake copies of Washington Post handed out in DC - Media Bias/Fact ...
Activists in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday spread copies of fake newspapers made to look like The Washington Post that contained mock stories predicting President Trump’s departure from office. Social media users said copies, which bore a resemblance to the real Washington...
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[18-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/i-refuse-be-bitter-or-angry-matthew-charles-released-prison-n955796

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Matthew Charles, released from prison and sent back again, finally...
"I've just been praying and hoping that this day would come," Charles said. "And it has come. And it's a remarkable feeling."
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[18-Jan-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
guy got 35 years for a nonviolent drug offense, served 20 years, rehabilitates himself and is released, finds a new job, starts a new life, then got sent back because his original release was an "error"


[18-Jan-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[18-Jan-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
he just got released after serving another 7 months


[18-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
"A longtime drug dealer from North Carolina, Charles was convicted in 1996 of selling 216 grams of crack and illegally possessing a gun. Labeled a "career offender" because of previous convictions involving drugs, weapons, domestic violence, breaking into homes, assault, kidnapping and larceny, he was sentenced to 35 years in prison."


[18-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he did more than just sell crack though


[18-Jan-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[18-Jan-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/xcbmHup.jpg

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[18-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
bill gates


[18-Jan-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gates seem like cool people


[18-Jan-19 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jan-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VPNW46a.mp4

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Gimme a goddamned liter o' funding!
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[18-Jan-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ohGHC7Z.jpg

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[18-Jan-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
"Half of the country literally tried to leave when one President got elected."


[18-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
"I'm an idiot. I was thinking "Is this about people wanting to move to Canada when Trump was elected?" But then I remembered the Civil War."


[18-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
"AND they shot him"


[18-Jan-19 02:32 AM] Mikey#7286
Bill gates is a great man


[18-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/
FACT CHECK: Did President Obama Once Spend $65,000 on Hot Dogs?
A leaked email used in 2009 to push the "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory was repurposed in 2019 to spread rumors about bulk hot dog purchases.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/01/shutterstock_282467483.jpg?fit=1000,667


[18-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
>false


[18-Jan-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tens-thousands-federal-employees-called-back-work-government/story?id=60431671

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Tens of thousands more federal employees called back to work durin...
Employees will not get paid until the government reopens.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Health/shutdown-gty-ml-190110_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[18-Jan-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if trump is actually trying to bring back slavery


[18-Jan-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
"hey look at all this money we're saving BECAUSE WE AREN'T PAYING OUR WORKERS LOLOLOLOLOL"


[18-Jan-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
he wants to prove that people will work for no pay in order to justify using slave labor to build his wall


[18-Jan-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/laquan-mcdonald-officers-acquitted.html

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By JULIE BOSMAN and MONICA DAVEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/laquan-mcdonald-officers-acquitted.html
3 Officers Acquitted of Covering Up for Colleague in Laquan McDona...
Along with the three officers, the broad concept of a police “code of silence” was on trial in Chicago.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/19/us/00silencecode/00silencecode-facebookJumbo.jpg


[18-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/sk5YB

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Trump's shutdown trap?
archived 15 Jan 2019 21:37:15 UTC


[18-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[18-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
this "article" claims that trump plans on using some sort of procedure to effectively fire all of the furloughed workers


[18-Jan-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
the procedure can only be enacted 30 days into a shutdown


[18-Jan-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
and also likens it to reagan firing all of the striking air traffic controllers


[18-Jan-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
also american thinker is the only site I've found which actually gets an "extreme" rating on this site <https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/>


[18-Jan-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that reads like White House propaganda


[18-Jan-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... this article used the phrase "deep state" which doesn;t sit with me as a phrase credible sources use...


[18-Jan-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also dont give a source for this obscure 30 day shutdown rule


[18-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's called "reduction in force"


[18-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[18-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
that's just a longer way of saying "layoff"


[18-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[18-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/federal-government-workers-30-days/

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FACT CHECK: Can Federal Government Workers Be Fired After 30 Days ...
The law varies depending on the type of shutdown.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/01/shutterstock_1271811034.jpg?fit=1000,736


[18-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so mostly false with some very narrow exceptions


[18-Jan-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah a mass firing is just called a layoff


[18-Jan-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yeah, trump could probably attempt a layoff, but there's no guaruntee that those laid off employees wouldnt drag this to court


[18-Jan-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they may not be able to strike, it says nothing about not being able to sue


[18-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah, there's already lawsuits


[18-Jan-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
lawsuits don't solve anything though


[18-Jan-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
like the only thing that could possibly be done is a judge handing down a temporary stay on working, which won't happen because there's literally a law saying that federal workers have to work during government shutdowns


[18-Jan-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
TROs do seem to solve things against this administration btw


[18-Jan-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
at least for a bit


[18-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
tens of thousands of employees are being recalled as essential again to work for no pay because things are starting to fall apart


[18-Jan-19 04:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1085329304236503043?s=21

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CNN (@CNN)
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1085329304236503043?s=21
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[18-Jan-19 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Fake news


[18-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/small-cap-stocks-are-off-to-the-best-start-to-a-year-since-1987-uh-oh-2019-01-17

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The stock market hasn’t started a year this strongly since 1987 ...
Much has been made about the performance of stocks so far in 2019.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-HC264_chart__ZG_20190117223627.jpg


[18-Jan-19 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This _1987_ sounds like a great year!


[18-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)

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Black Monday (1987)
In finance, Black Monday refers to Monday, October 19, 1987, when stock markets around the world crashed. The crash began in Hong Kong and spread west to Europe, hitting the United States after other markets had already sustained significant declines. The Dow Jones Industrial...
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[18-Jan-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait


[18-Jan-19 06:04 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sad:


[18-Jan-19 01:08 PM] Patrony#2095
Ahhaahhahahhahahhaa


[18-Jan-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/food-stamp-funds-going-out-early-in-washington-state-amid/article_b70424e8-1a1e-11e9-bcd3-53c0f9fb6f12.html

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Food stamp funds going out early in Washington state amid shutdown
Washington officials said this week that recipients of the federal food stamp program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), will receive February benefits by Sunday. This is a workaround by
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[18-Jan-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/february-snap-benefits-coming-early-coloradans-warned-to-make-money-stretch-due-to-shutdown

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Colo. SNAP recipients told to make benefits last through Feb
The Colorado Department of Human Services warned SNAP benefit recipients Wednesday that any new SNAP payments put on their EBT cards between Jan. 16 and 20 will have to last through the end of February and urged recipients to plan out their purchases carefully.
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[18-Jan-19 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, that's 2 states down the ebt hole


[18-Jan-19 01:16 PM] Patrony#2095
Trump will implode


[18-Jan-19 01:16 PM] Patrony#2095
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


[18-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/11/government-shutdown-kentucky-food-stamps-issued-early-february/2553143002/

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Kentucky SNAP recipients to get February funds early due to shutdown
Food benefits recipients in Kentucky will receive their February funds early because of the partial government shutdown.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/20/USAT/cac06482-d4d6-42cd-821b-c14547812b63-VPC_FOOD_STAMP_EXPLAINER_DESK_THUMB.jpg?crop=1919,1079,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[18-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://ktla.com/2019/01/15/california-advances-february-payment-of-calfresh-benefits-due-to-government-shutdown/

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https://ktla.com/2019/01/15/california-advances-february-payment-of-calfresh-benefits-due-to-government-shutdown/
California Advances February Payment of CalFresh Benefits Due to G...
CalFresh benefits in Los Angeles County and elsewhere around the state will be advanced for the month of February starting on Wednesday, officials announced.

The move is designed to avoid disruption of the critical food support to eligible residents amid the partial federal ...
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[18-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
4 states


[18-Jan-19 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/17/model-who-claimed-to-have-proof-of-russian-meddling-in-us-election-arrested

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Model who claimed to have proof of Russian meddling in US election...
Anastasia Vashukevich has been arrested in Moscow airport upon arrival
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[18-Jan-19 02:15 PM] Patrony#2095
🍆🍑


[18-Jan-19 02:15 PM] Patrony#2095
🍌


[18-Jan-19 02:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-had-michael-cohen-lie-to-congress-about-moscow-trump-tower-project-buzzfeed/

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Trump had Michael Cohen lie to Congress about Moscow Trump Tower p...
Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani dismissed the report but Democratic lawmakers pounced on it, with one going saying if it's true, it's grounds for impeachment or resignation
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[18-Jan-19 02:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll wait for verification


[18-Jan-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they keep saying resignation as if trump will willingly ever do this


[18-Jan-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he woudl sooner lock himself in the oval office and eat the keys before he ever resigns


[18-Jan-19 03:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, needs verification


[18-Jan-19 03:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen hasn't said anything either, neither has Trump


[18-Jan-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
[CITATION NEEDED]


[18-Jan-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree on that


[18-Jan-19 03:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Giuliani just said that he's untrustworthy


[18-Jan-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cohen or trump?


[18-Jan-19 03:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Impeachment talk grows louder after report Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/dems-vow-action-after-report-trump-directed-cohen-lie-about-n960156

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Impeachment talk grows louder after report Trump told Cohen to lie...
“We will do what’s necessary to find out if it’s true," Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the House Intelligence committee said.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2711966/190110-michael-cohen-2018-ac-841p_4aebee82c340bc2e7a9e550c72088871.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Jan-19 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
I’ll just sit back and watch the sweet sweet hell on earth


[18-Jan-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/house-republicans-join-rebuke-trump-easing-russia-sanctions-205253809.html

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House Republicans join rebuke of Trump for easing Russia sanctions
More than 130 US House Republicans joined Democrats Thursday in opposing the easing of sanctions against an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin, dealing a rebuke to President Donald Trump's administration.  The Democratic-controlled chamber overwhelmingly voted 362 to 53 approvin...
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[18-Jan-19 05:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) both now


[18-Jan-19 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Impeach during shutdown


[18-Jan-19 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Throw him out and then fund gov't with Pence


[18-Jan-19 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a longshot, but things are getting crazy.


[18-Jan-19 05:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You can't fund the government with one pence. 💸


[18-Jan-19 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you impeach him too.


[18-Jan-19 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get president Pelosi


[18-Jan-19 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, technically the VP gets to choose. President McConnell...*shudder*


[18-Jan-19 06:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If both were impeached at once, however


[18-Jan-19 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pelosi/Grassley


[18-Jan-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Grassley btw is a paleocon


[18-Jan-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stokk Republican positions except for whistleblower protection, not wanting to completely nuke the ACA, and extra sexism.


[18-Jan-19 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd probably resign immediately under Pelosi


[18-Jan-19 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/us/politics/courts-money-government-shutdown.html

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By THOMAS KAPLAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/us/politics/courts-money-government-shutdown.html
Federal Courts, Running Out of Money, Brace for Shutdown’s Pain
The judicial branch has been able to continue paying its workers so far, but that may soon change if the partial government shutdown continues.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/18/us/politics/18dc-courts/merlin_141903867_8137549c-6ed4-457c-ad6e-124032eebcd1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[18-Jan-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Strategy: run the courts out of money so that trump can't be sued


[18-Jan-19 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just not fair that Trump can do this. He's basically holding the US population hostage so he can get his wall.


[18-Jan-19 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fortunately, it's getting quite obvious that Trump's popularity is declining to critical levels.


[18-Jan-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is how he could get impeached.


[18-Jan-19 06:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm afraid it'll be necessary for the US govt to pass a constitutional ammendment to limit the powers of the president to call a shutdown after this, imo.


[18-Jan-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
the president doesn't call a shutdown


[18-Jan-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
the president can shut down the government by simply refusing to pass a bill to maintain funding for services


[18-Jan-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
what is actually needed here is for congress to stop pussying out and actually assert their power to control government spending


[18-Jan-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
they _can_ pass bills to fund government services permanently


[18-Jan-19 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, it's the fault of congressmen that are too compliant with Trump's dumb plan?


[18-Jan-19 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
but they don't because current rules dictate that you need a 2/3 majority of the senate (iirc?) to issue funding changes that affect the budget and need to go through budget reconciliation


[18-Jan-19 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
And that's a lot of votes and committee hearings that can siphon off the money for pork instead of funding the damn service


[18-Jan-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
what can also happen if trump continues to express disapproval of funding and mitch mcconnell stops being a little bitch is that congress can pass a bill to fund the government anyway


[18-Jan-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
trump vetoes it


[18-Jan-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
then congress overrides the veto


[18-Jan-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
that seems like it would be a popular move


[18-Jan-19 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
but mitch mcconnell is basically allowing the gop to do nothing right now by refusing to allow any funding bill to be considered


[18-Jan-19 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358397904601350154/535681573022990336/image0.jpg

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[18-Jan-19 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shareholders? More like share-hoarders


[18-Jan-19 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Got eem


[18-Jan-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
This is why america needs communism

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[18-Jan-19 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>reacting to Byte's comment with filthy capitalist menshevik flag


[18-Jan-19 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:trixdisgust:

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[18-Jan-19 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/a-judge-unsealed-a-trove-of-internal-facebook-documents-following-our-legal-action/

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https://www.revealnews.org/blog/a-judge-unsealed-a-trove-of-internal-facebook-documents-following-our-legal-action/
Judge unseals trove of internal Facebook documents following our l...
Facebook’s own employees worried they were bamboozling children who racked up hundreds, and sometimes even thousands, of dollars in game charges, documents show.
https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/AP_18299548855142-630x356.jpg


[18-Jan-19 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.thisisinsider.com/new-zealand-deported-british-family-theft-litter-dine-and-dash-2019-1

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New Zealand has kicked out a family of 'unruly' British tourists w...
The tourists, apparently a large family, have been causing trouble since December, according to multiple reports.
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[18-Jan-19 07:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
First we take out the Trash, then we put the litter in the bin. 🇳🇿


[18-Jan-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“[Our sources] have been working the Trump Moscow tower portion of the investigation…before Mueller. So they had access to a number of different documents, 302 reports which are interview reports,” he said. “That stuff was compiled as they began to look at who the players were speaking with, how those negotiations went, who all from the Trump organization and outside the organization were involved in getting that tower set up.”


[18-Jan-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's from the "bombshell reporter didn't see evidence" story


[18-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/cohen-trump-buzzfeed-court-filings/index.html

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What court filings tell us about BuzzFeed's Trump-Cohen allegations
There are a handful of distinct areas where reporting from BuzzFeed's bombshell lines up with court records, including the charging documents against Michael Cohen, sentencing memos and hearings.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181212124008-michael-cohen-sentencing-1212-super-tease.jpg


[18-Jan-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/EwModqyLzQE

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Mexie
https://youtu.be/EwModqyLzQE
The Share-Washing of Late Stage Capitalism
Support the show! Become a Patreon- https://www.patreon.com/user?u=5385111 Tip / donation: https://www.paypal.me/MexieYT ___ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mex...
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[18-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which "xwashing" are you, tag yourself


[18-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/judge-rules-against-elderly-lesbians-rejected-retirement-home-n960211

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Judge rules against elderly lesbians rejected from retirement home
Bev Nance, 68, and Mary Walsh, 72, were denied an apartment in Missouri’s Friendship Village because their marriage is not “understood in the Bible.”
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_03/2720311/190117-walsh-vs-friendship-village-ac-537p_5bf6638b734243b259678e0399a755a5.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-york-become-15th-state-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-n958761?icid=related

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https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-york-become-15th-state-ban-gay-conversion-therapy-n958761?icid=related
New York to become 15th state to ban ‘gay conversion therapy’
The New York State Legislature voted Tuesday to ban the practice on minors, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo is expected to sign the bill as soon as this week.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_03/2716596/190115-andrew-cuomo-mn-0940_a7c09a0a165f84a606ea33ba141153b8.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol at the 8th circuit


[18-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mental gymnastics to differentiate sex and sexual orientation


[18-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Your biological sex is the entire basis of what sexual identity you have


[18-Jan-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shareholders should get fukking crumbs


[18-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pilots are severely underpaid btw


[18-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
flight school is one of the most expensive kinds of education there is


[18-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you need to do a whole lot of other shit to even meet the bare minimum legal qualifications to possibly fly a commercial airliner


[18-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
by the time you do, you will guaranteed be in massive, massive debt


[18-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's to the point we hav a pilot shortage because China actually pays people decently


[18-Jan-19 09:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also if there is a fault and people die the pilot is responsible.


[18-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
so American pilots just fukk off *to China*


[18-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note btw that even once you become a pilot


[18-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
you start out doing small planes with short flights


[18-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
short flights are really bad because the way it's structured, there's limits on flight time, not work time


[18-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and short flights mean less flight time per work time


[18-Jan-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
so pilots start out massively overworked and barely able to stay awake as they spend all their free time preparing for the flights


[18-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Over *years* they get the seniority to even be considered for flights where they can do just a few flights a week


[18-Jan-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is where they start having work times similar to things humans can actually cope with over long periods of time.


[18-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, these days, pilot error is about the most likely thing to crash a plane.


[18-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But no, let's pay investors more guys!


[18-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Mr. Money Bags doesn't get his essentially-untaxable-because-of-Republicans-who-forgot-everything-Reagan-stood-for-except-bigotry income in sufficient quantities, he'll be sad! That's just as bad as planes crashing!


[18-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/mvZGSYoMOxY

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Air Crash Investigation 2019
https://youtu.be/mvZGSYoMOxY
Air crash Investigation of Continental 3407 Flying Cheap
Air crash Investigation of Continental 3407 Flying Cheap
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[18-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is one of the more enraging cases


[18-Jan-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That and the one where the pilot was a fucking asshole that was rude to everyone so the copilot froze when something went wrong that the pilot didn't notice


[18-Jan-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Similar to the Korean flight where the pilots turning indicator was broken so he just kept turning the plane


[18-Jan-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The copilots had ones that worked but dared not correct their captain so they basically let him roll the plane into the ground, actually choosing death before dishonor


[19-Jan-19 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
We should execute all current share holders and distribute the shares among the lower ranking employees of the company. :Upvote:

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[19-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/6o9zTgN

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But wait, there’s more
https://i.imgur.com/yTfV8fAh.jpg


[19-Jan-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
trump conspiracy theory rooted in a bunch of crazy coincidences


[19-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/baron-trumps-marvelous-underground-journey/

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FACT CHECK: Is 'Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey' a Rea...
Two books from the 1890s contain seemingly eerie connections to modern-day politics.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2017/08/baron_trumps_marvellous_underground_journey_fb.jpg?fit=1200,628


[19-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
>mostly true


[19-Jan-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[19-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-host-greg-gutfeld-it-doesnt-matter-if-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress/

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Aidan McLaughlin
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-host-greg-gutfeld-it-doesnt-matter-if-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress/
Fox News Host Greg Gutfeld: ‘It Doesn’t Matter’ If Trump Dir...
Fox News pundit Greg Gutfeld said "it doesn't matter" if a report that President Donald Trump directed his former lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress -- a potential felony -- is true, because the crime is not collusion with Russia.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Screen-Shot-2019-01-18-at-17.49.31.jpg


[19-Jan-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/01/18/trump-lashes-out-cohen-threatens-father-in-law-buzzfeed-report/23646413/

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‘Lying to reduce his jail time’: Trump lashes out at Cohen
President Trump responded to a report stating he told former attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.
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[19-Jan-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump threatened Cohen's father in law


[19-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's already sentenced tho


[19-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they didn't get this from Cohen


[19-Jan-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They really didnt, but i wouldnt be surprised if trump has convinced himself that thye did


[19-Jan-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-national-sanctity-human-life-day-2019/

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Presidential Proclamation on the National Sanctity of Human Life D...
Today marks the 46th year since the United States Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade.  On this day, National Sanctity of Human Life Sunday, we mourn the lives cut short, and the tremendous promise lost, as a result of abortion.  As a Nation, we must resolve to protec...
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[19-Jan-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is deep in shit river and he;s still making demands


[19-Jan-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"As President, I am committed to defending the Right to Life.  During my first week in office, I reinstated the Mexico City Policy, which prevents foreign aid from being used to fund or support the global abortion industry.  We are also working to end the abhorrent practice of elective late-term abortion, a practice allowed in only seven countries around the world."


[19-Jan-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
At home, we have issued a proposed regulation to implement the Title X prohibition on funding programs that include abortion as a method of family planning.  I am supporting the effort in the United States Senate to make permanent the Hyde Amendment, which has been added year after year to spending bills and prevents taxpayer funding for abortion.  And I have explicitly informed the Congress that I will veto any legislation that weakens existing Federal protections for human life.


[19-Jan-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are there any orgs that actively try to interrupt attempts at abstinence only


[19-Jan-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember at my high school, a public one, the school managed to get in an explicitly Christian abstinence only/straight edge assembly under the guise of it being a "fun assembly" or something


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was going to say pornhub, but actually, they're probably responsible for more abstinence than the entirety of christiandom


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/trump-to-make-a-major-announcement-about-border-and-shutdown.html

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Trump says he will make a 'major' announcement on Saturday about t...
The president did not provide any further details on what he would be discussing on what is set to be the 28th day of the partial government shutdown.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/01/14/105676764-1547485629158trump2.1910x1000.jpg


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
is he going to finally declare himself dictator


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
so we can have civil war 2.0


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's making noise to distract from latest news against him


[19-Jan-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he going to double the demanded funding?


[19-Jan-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's what he does


[19-Jan-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he going to throw more of a distraction fit to divert from the meuller probe?


[19-Jan-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever something bad about him makes the news, he does something really fucking stupid


[19-Jan-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that takes over


[19-Jan-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And we're so used to stupid nothing ever goes over the edge


[19-Jan-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's enough to drown out actual news


[19-Jan-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember how he explicitly said Saudi's murdering journalists was an OK thing because they bought so many guns from the US?


[19-Jan-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, most people don't either


[19-Jan-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's done 20 different stupid things since


[19-Jan-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No one can keep up


[19-Jan-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"if we can;t trust allies who buy our stuff and murder journalists, then what allies can we trust?"


[19-Jan-19 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4TmChXtpHg

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NonCompete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4TmChXtpHg
Prager U is Hot Garbage | Political Science Theater 2020
Elon Musk trapped me and my puppets in a submarine for this video which is LEGALLY DISTINCT from Mystery Science Theater 3000. Buy Non-Compete Stuff: https:/...
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[19-Jan-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it new news about prager u or the same thing?


[19-Jan-19 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's more the framework and presentation of it.


[19-Jan-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth is prageru


[19-Jan-19 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
A non-university


[19-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
some palatable front for a neo-nazi organization that's releasing "educational" videos on youtube


[19-Jan-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[19-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wut...


[19-Jan-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[19-Jan-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Known for such fun topics such as, "why the modern capitalism is bad: crony corporatism and money in politics" then saying, "why money in politics is good"


[19-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stR5nWkq3LU

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PragerU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stR5nWkq3LU
The Suicide of Europe
Europe is committing suicide. How did this happen? In this video, Douglas Murray, author of The Strange Death of Europe, explains the two major causes of Eur...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/stR5nWkq3LU/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Jan-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[19-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[19-Jan-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I dislike Mike Rowe the most, personally


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A guy who couldn't drill a hole in wood who became an actor pretending to be a member of the working class


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
And claims that he's only there because of some natural determinism


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OtVCYmbOKw

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PragerU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OtVCYmbOKw
Where Are You, Martin Luther King?
A half-century after his death, Martin Luther King, Jr. is as revered as ever. But have we been following his example, or merely paying lip service to his id...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2OtVCYmbOKw/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s in a grave, that;s where he is


[19-Jan-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there i solved your mystery


[19-Jan-19 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
"hey guys mlk voted republican once therefore he's republican >:(((((((((((((((((((((("


[19-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
they seem to have forgotten that MLK was also a leftist, which was the most likely reason he was killed


[19-Jan-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the parties were in a weird transition phase bakc then


[19-Jan-19 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where people lied bakc thne is not really where thye might lie now


[19-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP wants you to forget the Southern Strategy was a thing


[19-Jan-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP can suck a dick


[19-Jan-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can suck a grand old dick


[19-Jan-19 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
why can't more GOP members be like Robert Mueller


[19-Jan-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because most of thme are bought and paid for with money


[19-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
oh wait, he's not a "GOP member"


[19-Jan-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meuller meanwhile swore an oath to remain neutral and do his job isntead of playing politics


[19-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
also i think Trump is legit scared of Mueller because he knows that he has stuff on him


[19-Jan-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's more conservative than GOP


[19-Jan-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
he's more nonpartisan tbh


[19-Jan-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop are conservative but they're conservative with rose tinted nostalgia goggles strapped tot heir faces


[19-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The GOP want power


[19-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as the Dems


[19-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They just cater to a different group to get it


[19-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
someone on another server said he's a RINO(Republican in name only)


[19-Jan-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that kinda works i guess


[19-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That makes most dems in power DINOs I guess


[19-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
iirc his actual politics are actually more conservative than mainstream republicans


[19-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah, i believe it


[19-Jan-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
the republicans were cheering him on when he was going after democrats in chicago


[19-Jan-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
and the democrats demonizing him, but to a lesser extent because democrats are much less unified


[19-Jan-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
"we need to get rid of the RINOs" --> "the GOP is not salvageable"


[19-Jan-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
republicans as a whole are demonizing him because everyone being uniform and the same is the modern republican party way


[19-Jan-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
even as they try to attack and demonize democrats for being one giant monolithic combination of socialism, social justice, and radical feminism, they uniformly line up behind mcconnell and trump


[19-Jan-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
McConnell is basically Trump's lapdog


[19-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
more specifically, they line up behind mcconnell, and he lines up behind trump no matter how bad trump gets


[19-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
because that's the republican way


[19-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Mikey#7286
mmhm


[19-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's not even that mcconnell necessarily agrees with trump either


[19-Jan-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's just that the republican party has basically decided they wanted to die on the hill of uniformity


[19-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Mikey#7286
despite the republican senators that want McConnell to move to reopen the government without Trump's approval


[19-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
and to do anything less, in mcconnell's mind, is worse than destroying the republican party


[19-Jan-19 02:07 AM] Mikey#7286
McConnell will destroy the GOP even further


[19-Jan-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
the only difference in his mind is whether the republican party dies slowly over years or in one grand explosion with trump


[19-Jan-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/mueller-statement-buzzfeed/index.html

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Mueller's office disputes BuzzFeed report that Trump directed Mich...
Special counsel Robert Mueller's office is disputing a BuzzFeed report that President Donald Trump directed his then-personal attorney Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about the proposed Moscow Trump Tower project.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180831102825-05-robert-mueller-lead-image-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[19-Jan-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plug those leaks and deny


[19-Jan-19 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
The world is in Pax Americana not Pax Capitalism


[19-Jan-19 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
China vs America over the Eurozone


[19-Jan-19 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
EAST ASIA XI JINPING REPRESENT


[19-Jan-19 02:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UctriMuXYS0

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VocalNationalAnthems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UctriMuXYS0
China National anthem Chinese & English lyrics
March of the Volunteers ( traditional Chinese: 義勇軍進行曲; pinyin: Yìyǒngjūn Jìnxíngqǔ) is the national anthem of the People's Republic of China (including the H...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UctriMuXYS0/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Jan-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: "xi" is what Brazilians say when somethign bad has happened


[19-Jan-19 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Jinping is Xi


[19-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Honahue#0656
ΧΑ is ha in Greek


[19-Jan-19 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
>tfw Brazil will neverh ave a Brazilzone


[19-Jan-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is so sad can we get a united Socialist Republic of All America


[19-Jan-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Project 1: the dissolution of US-American culture for being plastic heresy


[19-Jan-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also on a local politics level: today I learned the reason why the new gazebo in town has its grand opening and unveiling delayed is because when they poured all the new concrete for it it altered the watershed area, or the soil drainage into the millpond its next to caused the basement of the local historical society to flood and fucking destroy most of or all of its historical artifacts and documents.


[19-Jan-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
W H O O P S


[19-Jan-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
where is this?


[19-Jan-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
The town where I'm living in Michigan


[19-Jan-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's really crappy


[19-Jan-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's funny because the new gazebo everyone's got their panties in a knot over was another expensive build now there's expectations they have to spend some 70,000 to restore the old town hall they were kept in, and so far they raised 10,000 out of millages to do initial work to at least stop any spread of mold.


[19-Jan-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the shit ton of rain we got this passed fall also probably didn't help at all.


[19-Jan-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/53LMF

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Migrant caravan freely crosses Mexican border after gates were lef...
archived 19 Jan 2019 01:44:07 UTC


[19-Jan-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
"The border gates were open only temporarily, but migrants – who crossed the bridge from Tecun-Uman to Ciudad Hidalgo – were surprised to find no locks on the gates, effectively giving them a free pass to enter the country without being stuck at the border or registering with immigration officials and now begin the trek to the U.S. border, which can range from between 1,000 to 2,500 miles depending on the point of entry."


[19-Jan-19 02:45 AM] Mikey#7286
_Wew_


[19-Jan-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently someone left the guatemalan-mexico border unlocked


[19-Jan-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
so a migrant caravan got through with no hassles


[19-Jan-19 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I bet SOROS did this!


[19-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
the only source I could find was that fox news article, so I assumed that was what they were getting at lol


[19-Jan-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
"There was little presence of police or border security officials. A Mexican official told Fox News that they “did not want to confront” the migrant caravan, fearing the repetition of last year’s incident where violent clashes between police and the migrants broke out."


[19-Jan-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/stocks-us-china-trade-talks-take-center-stage-shutdown-earnings.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/stocks-us-china-trade-talks-take-center-stage-shutdown-earnings.html
Dow jumps more than 300 points, posts first 4-week winning streak ...
Stocks rose on Friday as investors cheered potential progress in trade negotiations between China and the U.S.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/01/18/104146904-1547844579163preview.1910x1000.jpg


[19-Jan-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/health/opioids-doctors-overdose-deaths.html

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By ABBY GOODNOUGH
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/health/opioids-doctors-overdose-deaths.html
Study Links Drug Maker Gifts for Doctors to More Overdose Deaths
Counties where doctors got more meals, trips and consulting fees from opioid makers had higher overdose deaths involving prescription opioids.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/19/science/19sky3/19OPIOIDS-facebookJumbo.jpg


[19-Jan-19 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
having worked at a pharmacy sometimes I though Doctors prescribed drugs by reaching into a pocket and whichever drug was on the pen they pulled out was what the patient got


[19-Jan-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
lol https://twitter.com/EATforum/status/1085703134213693440

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https://twitter.com/EATforum/status/1085703134213693440
The #EATLancet Commission is here: Read how we can achieve planetary health diets for nearly 10 billion people by 2050. 

https://t.co/xpjsQ223t8

#foodcanfixit @TheLancet
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[19-Jan-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
the responses to being told that the way we produce food is unsustainable is a spam of meat


[19-Jan-19 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WOAAAH LOOK AT ME, I EAT BEEF, I'M SUCH A BADASS BRO


[19-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that the way that americans eat is obscene


[19-Jan-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
people eat a bunch of random shit that no one really knows the contents of


[19-Jan-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
because it's cheaper than buying whole foods


[19-Jan-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
faster and cheaper


[19-Jan-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LEMME FIST THIS PIECE OF SALTY BEEF
I'M TOTALLY NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE MY FRAGILE MASCULINITY HAS PROVOKED A REACTION IN ME


[19-Jan-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
@Honahue they prescribe based on "how fast will this remove the patient from my office"


[19-Jan-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that's pretty much the deal


[19-Jan-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer to cook foods but right now i dont really have a stove to work on


[19-Jan-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scratch made pancakes are way better


[19-Jan-19 03:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yanks don't even use sugar cane sugar. they use corn. :trixdisgust: 🌽


[19-Jan-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate that about our soda industry


[19-Jan-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/17/scientists-call-global-agricultural-revolution-and-planetary-health-diet-save-lives

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/17/scientists-call-global-agricultural-revolution-and-planetary-health-diet-save-lives
Scientists Call for 'Global Agricultural Revolution' and 'Planetar...
"The food we eat and how we produce it determines the health of people and the planet, and we are currently getting this seriously wrong."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/screen_shot_2019-01-17_at_3.06.06_pm.jpg


[19-Jan-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn recognize most of the things int hese photos


[19-Jan-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the blue stuff in that pasta


[19-Jan-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never seen a food in that shade of blue


[19-Jan-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
looks like cauliflower, except blue


[19-Jan-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, there's purple cauliflower


[19-Jan-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
and it turns blue when cooked


[19-Jan-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://s3.amazonaws.com/pixtruder/original_images/d0a8005888867b766dc445e9cb7a32924c03022b


[19-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[19-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, that solves that mystery


[19-Jan-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the problem for me with the american diet is I cant afford half the stuff reccomended to eat for health reasons,,, liek fruit


[19-Jan-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fruit should not be as expensive as it is


[19-Jan-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
fruits aren't really that healthy for you, that's what rich people got fat off of thousands of years ago


[19-Jan-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's better than high fructose corn syrup and cane sugar, but can be just as bad as candy and soda


[19-Jan-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i rarely eat it anyway


[19-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>I hate people who eat soy


[19-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Unlike me, who eats a lot of real meat from cows that eat soy


[19-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't care what people eat, just don't tell me how to live my life tbh


[19-Jan-19 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking what's your opinion on soy, as a food?


[19-Jan-19 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it sustainable?


[19-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbh tho I think factory farms are horrible and cattle should be treated better and fed grass


[19-Jan-19 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can a human live his entire life sustaining on soy?


[19-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
i dunno tbh, i doubt it


[19-Jan-19 04:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Cats can't. it has been tried.


[19-Jan-19 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Isn't it soy that is recently being used to make "vegan beef"?


[19-Jan-19 04:25 AM] Mikey#7286
also, if people are concerned about how animals are treated before they're killed for food, instead of going vegan, speak out against factory farms and buy from butchers that you know are from farms that treat animals better, especially if you like your meat and are on the fence


[19-Jan-19 04:25 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[19-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
i'd advocate for not wasting parts of the animal


[19-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
the native americans had it right, when they killed buffalo for food


[19-Jan-19 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
they used all the parts of it


[19-Jan-19 04:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can someone please answer my questions on soy?


[19-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Mikey#7286
i did, i said i don't think it is, you have to eat other things in your diet


[19-Jan-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, what exactly is soy?


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] Mikey#7286
it's from soybeans


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hola, Beans


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Soy BadgingBadger


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOT EEM


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
soya


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*high fives self*


[19-Jan-19 04:28 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
soyboi


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soy fruit bars are awful


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
http://www.aicr.org/foods-that-fight-cancer/soy.html

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Soy


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) hola, fruitbarsareawful


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Soy BadgingBadger


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I GOT ANOTHER


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
```The soybean, or soya bean, is a species of legume native to East Asia, widely grown for its edible bean, which has numerous uses. Fat-free soybean meal is a significant and cheap source of protein for animal feeds and many packaged meals.```


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
from a google search


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey i do know what soy is


[19-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[19-Jan-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I was just waiting for you to fall into it


[19-Jan-19 04:30 AM] Mikey#7286
=I


[19-Jan-19 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My bro you just got B E A N E D


[19-Jan-19 04:32 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[19-Jan-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet/u-s-appeals-court-will-not-delay-net-neutrality-case-idUSKCN1PB2UC

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-internet/u-s-appeals-court-will-not-delay-net-neutrality-case-idUSKCN1PB2UC
U.S. appeals court will not delay net neutrality case
A federal appeals court said on Thursday it would not delay oral arguments set f...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190118&t=2&i=1347026752&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0G23Y


[19-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 most sustainable source of protein that is the best is bugs


[19-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just get a lot of them and grind them up into burgers


[19-Jan-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, you have to mention soy in the middle of a phrase


[19-Jan-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then i pwn you


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Virgin Soyboy vs the Chad Bugboi


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine.


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Joke's lost its momentum already.


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No fun allowed.


[19-Jan-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soygan freeman will narrate you all!


[19-Jan-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/01/18/fight-continues-reverse-rollback-net-neutrality-federal-court/

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http://www.kfvs12.com/2019/01/18/fight-continues-reverse-rollback-net-neutrality-federal-court/
Fight continues to reverse rollback on Net Neutrality in federal court
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit will hear oral arguments on the case Friday, Feb. 1.
http://www.kfvs12.com/resizer/qXAQz7WCNMJolUm3ZMfUjp_vMZc=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-raycom.s3.amazonaws.com/public/V3FA6ZDAKVCURG6XFJWDLKA7AU.jpg


[19-Jan-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/fcc-asks-court-for-delay-in-case-that-could-restore-net-neutrality-rules/

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/fcc-asks-court-for-delay-in-case-that-could-restore-net-neutrality-rules/
FCC asks court for delay in case that could restore net neutrality...
FCC asks court to delay oral arguments, citing government shutdown.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/getty-fcc-seal-760x380.jpg


[19-Jan-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
request denied


[19-Jan-19 04:48 AM] Mikey#7286
good


[19-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/trump-to-make-a-major-announcement-about-border-and-shutdown.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/trump-to-make-a-major-announcement-about-border-and-shutdown.html
Trump says he will make a 'major' announcement on Saturday about t...
The president did not provide any further details on what he would be discussing on what is set to be the 28th day of the partial government shutdown.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/01/14/105676764-1547485629158trump2.1910x1000.jpg


[19-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like a shitty movie or game


[19-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Teaser for an announcement


[19-Jan-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[19-Jan-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
watch as he unveils "Trump: a presidential story of heroism and bravery"


[19-Jan-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
comign to a theater this summer


[19-Jan-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can totally imagine that


[19-Jan-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Help fund the wall with the official 'Bravery and Patriotism: The Trump Victory Story'"


[19-Jan-19 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump jsut literaly blackmailed cohen on live national television


[19-Jan-19 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
over something cohen didnt evne say


[19-Jan-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
may not have said*


[19-Jan-19 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/rudy-giuliani-i-never-said-no-collusion-between-trump-campaign-russia/2600268002/

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Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani: 'I never said there was no collusion...
President Donald Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, said there may have been "collusion" between members of the Trump campaign and Russia.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/19/USAT/679996d0-8575-4d57-9632-b2d9d5a641b7-Trump_and_Giuliani.JPG?crop=2531,1424,x0,y3&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[19-Jan-19 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Jan-19 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/brands-bridging-governments-gaps-isnt-heartwarming-2019-1

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Domino's is filling potholes, Kraft is feeding government workers,...
The feel-good stories about Domino's filling potholes, Kraft feeding government workers, and Natty Light paying student loans aren't what they seem.
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[19-Jan-19 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.apnews.com/1403e4f1c70c4e6bacc05af88fa2a8f8

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Border Patrol arrests 376 who dug under barrier in Arizona
SAN LUIS, Ariz. (AP) — A group of 376 Central Americans was arrested in southwest Arizona, the vast majority of them families who dug short, shallow holes under a barrier to cross the border, authorities said Friday. The group dug under a steel barrier in seven spots about ...
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[19-Jan-19 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
wow


[19-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
"I will build an impenetrable wall"


[19-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
-Trump


[19-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
"""""Impenetrable"""""


[19-Jan-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
:^)


[19-Jan-19 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
When do we go through another government shutdown post-wall and an army of migrants assemble and like the Mongols they bribe their way through the wall


[19-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
hahahahaha


[19-Jan-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
or they go through customs like they have been and overstay their visas


[19-Jan-19 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
and still smuggle drugs through Trump's "impenetrable" wall the way they've been doing it


[19-Jan-19 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
aka


[19-Jan-19 05:44 AM] Mikey#7286
going through customs and hiding drugs in crafty parts of their vehicles


[19-Jan-19 05:44 AM] Mikey#7286
or trucks carrying "produce" and "goods" and totally not cocaine and hidden immigrants


[19-Jan-19 05:46 AM] Mikey#7286
it's almost like


[19-Jan-19 05:46 AM] Mikey#7286
building a wall is not the answer


[19-Jan-19 05:47 AM] Mikey#7286
and if you want to stop drug trafficking, do more thorough customs checks


[19-Jan-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
or legalize drugs


[19-Jan-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
that way it'll be unprofitable to smuggle them


[19-Jan-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
that too


[19-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
or at least


[19-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
decriminalize most of them and legalize ones like cannabis


[19-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
and fund drug rehabilitation


[19-Jan-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
decriminalization will not stop the smuggling completely


[19-Jan-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
legalization will


[19-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[19-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[19-Jan-19 06:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the whole drug war is based on total nonsense not to mention brazenly unconstitutional


[19-Jan-19 06:34 AM] Mikey#7286
tell that to Richard Nixon


[19-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
totaly not a crook tm


[19-Jan-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/18/government-shutdown-george-w-bush-gets-pizza-secret-service/2618974002/

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President George W. Bush delivers pizza to Secret Service detail a...
Former President George W. Bush delivered pizza to his Secret Service detail, who are working without pay due to the partial government shutdown.
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[19-Jan-19 11:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/18/muellers-office-disputes-buzzfeeds-bombshell-on-michael-cohen.html

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Mueller's office disputes parts of BuzzFeed's bombshell on Cohen's...
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office issued a rare public rebuke of  elements of a stunning report that alleged President Donald Trump directed his former legal counsel to lie in sworn Congressional testimony.
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[19-Jan-19 12:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/border-issues/2019/01/15/cabeza-prieta-national-wildlife-refuge-trial-against-humanitarian-aid-volunteers-tucson-arizona/2583531002/

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Trial of volunteers charged after leaving food and water for migra...
A criminal trial has begun in Tucson federal court against four of nine No More Deaths volunteers facing charges for dropping off water for migrants.
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[19-Jan-19 04:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump may be married to Melania but we all know his true lover


[19-Jan-19 04:24 PM] Mikey#7286

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[19-Jan-19 04:30 PM] Mikey#7286

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[19-Jan-19 04:31 PM] Mikey#7286

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[19-Jan-19 05:41 PM] moonatik#3676
the Twitter left:

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[19-Jan-19 07:16 PM] Mikey#7286

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[19-Jan-19 07:16 PM] Mikey#7286
How can anyone look at this man and see someone sane


[19-Jan-19 07:21 PM] Mikey#7286
"I never said there was no collusion, collusion is not a crime!"


[19-Jan-19 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure there's any sane people left who would willingly defend trump at this point in court


[19-Jan-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol one good thing happened with Mueller to Trump and suddenly he loves him


[19-Jan-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh give it an hour


[19-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Eh, bomb the White House, fuck it." - My mom within the last ten minutes on the tail end of a conversation about food stamps and the gov't shutdown.


[19-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
isn't your mom conservative?


[19-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly.


[19-Jan-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's a weird sort of moderate


[19-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically she hates the homeless and blakk people


[19-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
but she hates the gov't being retarded far more


[19-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
so simultaneously she's mad about welfare queens or whatever on principle, but then she sees the gov't deciding the best way to get rid of them is to screw everyone and says "WELL FUKK REPUBLICANS THEN"


[19-Jan-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or she sees how BLAKKS are TAKING OVER CULTURALLY and THE ONLY REASON BLACK PANTHER MADE MONEY, but then she'll totally watch said movie anyways, and also will be like "they're doing *what* just because they hate blakk people? Screw them then."


[19-Jan-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, at a personal level she's conservative, but the way she sees it, conservatives in power are huge nuisances that ruin her life because they're too busy trying to ruin the lives of people she doesn't like to help her out.


[19-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[19-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
if this sentiment is growing more common


[19-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's cause for concern on Trump's side


[19-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think he played his dictatorship cards too fast


[19-Jan-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, massive starvation and uncertainty and fear and crises create dictatorship


[19-Jan-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
but everyone's fairly well-educated and the judiciary is pretty resilient


[19-Jan-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, you'll hav a bunch of angry people against Trump and as soon as he gets shot, there won't be a power vacuum cause of the systems, Pence will just take the reins.


[19-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment will probably happen before assassination, if either happen, tho.


[19-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't want to be the ones that killed the economy


[19-Jan-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's uh...not a good label.


[19-Jan-19 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not A good label but it;s the one they usually obtain


[19-Jan-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it usually helps not to cut taxes for the rich for a quick boost to your election funds if you don;t want that title


[19-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't usually obtain it tho


[19-Jan-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Usually they can blame the Democrats somehow


[19-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
but this stuff is way, way too obvious


[19-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
tax cuts followed by not paying workers for the gov't accompanied with trade wars...


[19-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
How do you even begin to disguise this and pass blame?


[19-Jan-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're in control of everything but the House.


[19-Jan-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the disturbing part is i;ve seen soem republicans try to justify this shut down  usuing the shutdown that happened with obama care


[19-Jan-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gaslighting.


[19-Jan-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[19-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I don;t care if trump promised mexico would pay for the wall Just make it happen on tax payer money now!"


[19-Jan-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's another argument i;ve heard


[19-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav no clothes.


[19-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the Mueller thing was more a leak than anything


[19-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the case for impeachment is strong regardless.


[19-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans now stand to lose greatly if they don't put Pence on top


[19-Jan-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention trump publicly blackmailed cohen pon live national tv


[19-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The question is whether they impeach Pence too for his part in the collusion.


[19-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just wait until Cohen testifies


[19-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I knew the Counsel shouldn't have paid Hasbro to help them prevent leaks


[19-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), is there a video of that? I just heard about a tweet


[19-Jan-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
not about trump doing it on national television


[19-Jan-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give me a moment to see if i can find soemthing


[19-Jan-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve heard it was both a tweet and a fox news interview


[19-Jan-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe it was just the tweet...


[19-Jan-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did i read the news report wrong?


[19-Jan-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump suggested during a Saturday interview with Fox News that he had damaging information about Cohen’s father-in-law" I keep readignt his in articles but i cant find a clip of it


[19-Jan-19 10:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wriRWg5Pao

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[19-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
so uh, what's the point of this video?


[19-Jan-19 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Something about how he wouldn't abort Hitler because Ben Shapiro is anti-abortion


[19-Jan-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
it shows a clip of sargon implying that if someone put a baby in front of a leftist and claimed that the baby was a future hitler that the leftist would stab the baby or something?


[19-Jan-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
I haven't really kept up with the drama, but from that I'm willing to bet it's the right doing a lot of strawmanning of the left to make their point.


[19-Jan-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
But from I heard from the original Shapiro statements is starts relatively strong for Dolphin Boy with some stuff about how people at birth aren't determined to be a certain way and this depends on the family, so he wouldn't abort baby Adolf and instead give him a better family or something. But I suppose too this can be used in defense of abortion since he runs on these premises to say that any kid born could cure cancer or AIDS, and if there's going to be kids born to bad families who won't have the opportunity to do that, you could logically abort them and just sorta break the cycle, which'd be a more extreme argument related to liberal opinions on over-population.

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[19-Jan-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
so uh, he basically advocated for the state to confiscate a baby from some parents because of bad conditions


[19-Jan-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty much, he straight up says children should be kidnapped.


[19-Jan-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
which is what the right always claims that the left wants in order to fearmonger


[19-Jan-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
that the socialists want to take your babies to their indoctrination factories


[19-Jan-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for hitler is that his descent into madness didnt start until art school or therabouts


[19-Jan-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well his Dad was a drunk too.


[19-Jan-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hitler wasn't even their original family name. Adolf's dad or grandpa changed it from something else I can't remember. But it wasn't as catchy as Hitler.


[19-Jan-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was longer too


[19-Jan-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
legalize retroactive abortion


[19-Jan-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hitler's father Alois Hitler Sr. (1837–1903) was the illegitimate child of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. The baptismal register did not show the name of his father, and Alois initially bore his mother's surname Schicklgruber. In 1842, Johann Georg Hiedler married Alois's mother Maria Anna.


[19-Jan-19 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
But one also has to remember that in as far as Adolf goes he was blaming the Jews for all the wrongs as far back as his war years, so it wasn't like he started hating them after art school, like he came into WW1 some pure innocent boy.


[19-Jan-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
He'd of been heavily anti-semetic before hand. In fact the reason he didn't fight for Austria, the country of his birth and instead Germany was because the Austrian Army was "too diverse" for him.


[19-Jan-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
He didn't want to fight alongside Jews, Slovaks, Hungarians, or Romanians.


[19-Jan-19 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways I gotta go make breakfast and I got a Donoteat video to watch


[19-Jan-19 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dn6ZVpJLxs

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Elon Musk's "Loop" - It's bad, folks
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[19-Jan-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
An actual engineer and urban development boye rips on the Loop


[19-Jan-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just gonna call the guy a pedo


[19-Jan-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all Musk does when people disagree with him


[19-Jan-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
DNT is probably too small for Elon to notice


[19-Jan-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wants-to-raise-taxes-on-the-rich-and-americans-agree/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Wants To Raise Taxes On The Rich — And ...
Welcome to Pollapalooza, our weekly polling roundup. This week’s poll Freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently captured headlines in her “60 Minutes” int…
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[20-Jan-19 12:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWoY9IBpWo

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[20-Jan-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hbomber has raised over 56k for Mermaids in the UK. https://www.twitch.tv/hbomberguy

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[20-Jan-19 12:06 AM] DevField#5162
Wasn't he that guy that used to play Minecraft? 🤔


[20-Jan-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno. But he makes videos on YouTube making fun of silly people. https://youtu.be/2gFsOoKAHZg

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[20-Jan-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8u8wZ0WvxI

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[20-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
hbomberguy is pretty cool


[20-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
though a few of his vids are questionable


[20-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
like his Dark Souls 2 vid


[20-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
his FO3 vid is spot on tho


[20-Jan-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
i watched his flat earth video, that was top notch


[20-Jan-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/19/trump-declares-national-emergency-over-immigration-amid-border-wall-push.html

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Trump offers limited 'Dreamer' deal in exchange for border wall ...
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[20-Jan-19 12:13 AM] Mikey#7286
why is his mouth always open that wide when he's photographed talking


[20-Jan-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he's always yelling?


[20-Jan-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-support-daca-protections-for-more-wall-funding-11547920247 also this kind of photo too

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President Trump said Saturday he supported temporary protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall.
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[20-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Mikey#7286
well he always looks like he's raging


[20-Jan-19 12:16 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[20-Jan-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nazi-salute-sign-post-two-students-minnesota-condemned-school-officials-n960451

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[20-Jan-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump's answer to  not gettignt he wall is to use DACA as a hostage


[20-Jan-19 01:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Very fine couples


[20-Jan-19 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, they'll feel that in afew years


[20-Jan-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/19/trump-shutdown-deal-republican-reaction-1116056

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/19/trump-shutdown-deal-republican-reaction-1116056
Immigration hardliners blast Trump's shutdown deal offer
“We voted for Trump and got Jeb!” tweeted Ann Coulter.
https://static.politico.com/1c/60/6e5e26504ea1b2c7d6cc6e89c618/190119-coulter-gty-773.jpg


[20-Jan-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ann culter didnt like this negotiation tactic, guess it wont happen now


[20-Jan-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that it was goign to anyway


[20-Jan-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
trump put himself into a no-win situation


[20-Jan-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
he can't negotiate his way out because his base will abandon him


[20-Jan-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
this is assuming he isn't a traitor who's purposefully paralyzing the US


[20-Jan-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he;s put DACA on the line so if he backs out of that because fox news told him to he looks like a coward even if the democrats deny him this negotiation


[20-Jan-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention mcconnell has gone back into hiding to keep anything form elavign the senate


[20-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
yup


[20-Jan-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so even if trump was succesful in negotiating there's no guaruntee that mcconnell will let it through anyway


[20-Jan-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the problem with a multi leader shutdown


[20-Jan-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if one leader caves another might take his place


[20-Jan-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh tomorrow is day 30


[20-Jan-19 02:32 AM] Mikey#7286
mmmhm


[20-Jan-19 02:34 AM] moonatik#3676
this is my favourite tweet https://twitter.com/haircut_hippie/status/804186152471265280

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https://twitter.com/haircut_hippie/status/804186152471265280
(you, dumb): we should pay workers more
(me, has taken econ 101): you see where this line meets that line? that's why the poor should starve
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[20-Jan-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ccn.com/plunging-consumer-sentiment-is-proof-shutdown-will-wipe-out-dows-gains/

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https://www.ccn.com/plunging-consumer-sentiment-is-proof-shutdown-will-wipe-out-dows-gains/
Plunging Consumer Sentiment is Proof Shutdown Will Erase Dow's Gains
Plunging consumer sentiment shows that the government shutdown is harming the stock market, recent recovery in the Dow Jones not withstanding.
https://www.ccn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/sad-face-stock-market-dow-shutterstock.jpg

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[20-Jan-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086607079308251136

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086607079308251136
The Economy is one of the best in our history, with unemployment at a 50 year low, and the Stock Market ready to again break a record (set by us many times) - & all you heard yesterday, based on a phony story, was Impeachment. You want to see a Stock Market Crash, Impeach ...
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[20-Jan-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, he's bragging about how great the economy is now


[20-Jan-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
"The Economy is one of the best in our history, with unemployment at a 50 year low, and the Stock Market ready to again break a record (set by us many times) - & all you heard yesterday, based on a phony story, was Impeachment. You want to see a Stock Market Crash, Impeach Trump!"


[20-Jan-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
the stock market has fallen, what the fuck is he smoking?


[20-Jan-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's been going up the past month


[20-Jan-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's just a bear market correction


[20-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[20-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Mikey#7286
trump thinks he did that


[20-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Mikey#7286
wrongo


[20-Jan-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
also i think people overstate how good low unemployment is


[20-Jan-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ccn.com/why-wall-street-should-fear-the-rise-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/

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https://www.ccn.com/why-wall-street-should-fear-the-rise-of-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/
Why Wall Street Should Fear the Rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Wall Street should be concerned about the rise of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a political force within Congress and the Democratic party.
https://www.ccn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/alexandra-ocasio-cortez-stock-market-congress.jpg


[20-Jan-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
I like this site, they seem to be trying to stay out of the political side in sole favor of the economics


[20-Jan-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
oh, apparently it's short for "Cryptocurrency Network"


[20-Jan-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
was trying to figure out what CCN meant


[20-Jan-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/teens-mock-native-elder-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/teens-mock-native-elder-trnd/index.html
Teens in Make America Great Again hats taunted a Native American e...
A crowd of teenagers surrounded a Native American elder and other activists and mocked them after Friday's Indigenous Peoples March at the Lincoln Memorial.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190119191611-01-maga-teens-tribal-elder-0119-super-tease.jpg


[20-Jan-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
it's the fucking hitler youth all over again


[20-Jan-19 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ew


[20-Jan-19 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>teens


[20-Jan-19 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thank god i grew past 12 years in mental age and sense of humor


[20-Jan-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
still there


[20-Jan-19 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dude penis lmao


[20-Jan-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
penis xd


[20-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
that kid has the most punchable smile


[20-Jan-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
i know a guy who looks just like that


[20-Jan-19 06:40 AM] illumnious#7938
DAY 30 GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 30

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[20-Jan-19 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it's only day 29


[20-Jan-19 06:41 AM] illumnious#7938
Wait what


[20-Jan-19 06:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's midnight here


[20-Jan-19 06:42 AM] illumnious#7938
It’s 00:41


[20-Jan-19 06:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it counts as day 30 for my time zone


[20-Jan-19 06:42 AM] illumnious#7938
In New York time zone


[20-Jan-19 06:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[20-Jan-19 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm in new york time zone


[20-Jan-19 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
according to cnn: SHUTDOWN WATCH • The US government has been partially shut down for 29d 0h 43m 11s


[20-Jan-19 06:43 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[20-Jan-19 06:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Which day did the shutdown start


[20-Jan-19 06:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so it becoems day 30 at 2am then?


[20-Jan-19 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
no?


[20-Jan-19 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
it becomes day 30 next midnight


[20-Jan-19 06:45 AM] illumnious#7938
Ah


[20-Jan-19 06:49 AM] illumnious#7938
So I guessed it started on the 21st of December


[20-Jan-19 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh great, i;m going to be seeing smuggy mcpunch face everywhere now


[20-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), who, the dude at the native american rally?


[20-Jan-19 07:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[20-Jan-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
so uh, what was the special announcement that trump said he was going to make yesterday?


[20-Jan-19 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he talked about his wall again and that he wanted to offer up DACA in exchange for the wall in negotiations


[20-Jan-19 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also mentioned that he wanted the wall to be steel again which is pointless because he assumes people are worried about the material


[20-Jan-19 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not thew cost and ineffectiveness


[20-Jan-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OaPJp9XWng

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LIVE ON-AIR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OaPJp9XWng
President Trump Adresses Nation 1/19/19 Immigration & Shutdown
President Trump Adresses Nation 1/19/19 Immigration & Shutdown. President Trump is going to propose a compromise to Democrats to end the shutdown: The offer ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_OaPJp9XWng/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Jan-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stupid thing is judges already ruled the shut down of DACA int he first place was illegal and so we still have


[20-Jan-19 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
DACA and trump jsut offered a bargaining chip that isnt actually a thing


[20-Jan-19 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-refuses-shut-down-daca-program-n905586

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Federal judge refuses to shut down DACA program
But his 117-page opinion agreed with the state of Texas that the Obama administration did not have authority to impose DACA.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_03/2144716/ss-170905-daca-protest-nationwide-ew-642p_7_ebfe0418052c2f405b694bb9df64ba48.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Jan-19 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old story but yeah


[20-Jan-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/24/third-judge-rules-against-trump-daca-550092

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/24/third-judge-rules-against-trump-daca-550092
Third judge rules against Trump move to end DACA
Republican-appointed judge called government’s arguments flimsy.
https://static.politico.com/a3/db/41a330ad4328aabf504af275f591/homeland-security-ap.jpg


[20-Jan-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/18/18188150/mitch-mcconnell-house-democrats-anti-corruption-bill-hr1

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https://www.vox.com/2019/1/18/18188150/mitch-mcconnell-house-democrats-anti-corruption-bill-hr1
Mitch McConnell calls House Democrats’ anti-corruption bill a "p...
McConnell just outlined his opposition to HR 1 in scathing detail.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9esu64yTfbSaxdq8urq-UOIEqUY=/0x453:3160x2107/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13598118/1067524126.jpg.jpg


[20-Jan-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“House Democrats won’t come to the table and negotiate to reopen government, but they’ve been hard at work angling for more control over what you can say about them and how they get reelected,” he wrote. “They’re trying to clothe this power grab with cliches about ‘restoring democracy’ ... but their proposal is simply a naked attempt to change the rules of American politics to benefit one party.”


[20-Jan-19 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
from another politics channel elsewhere:


[20-Jan-19 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
"So, I read the deal he proposed. 99% of it is simple, commonsense things we've needed forever and which Trump definately didn't understand or read beforehand. Then he offered only 3 years of daca/tps for the wall and eliminating immigration courts."


[20-Jan-19 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
"So, yeah. It's a laughingstock of a deal that offers nothing in good faith."


[20-Jan-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You give me the wall and in 3 years time i'm just gonna kill all the stuff you value, This is a marvelous deal, a big huge deal, The best deal. Everyone shoudl be for this deal!"


[20-Jan-19 05:07 PM] Honahue#0656
If you're an optimist you might assume he wouldn't be president in 3 years but I'm not and I think he's going to win 2020


[20-Jan-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
shutting down the government is a bad move


[20-Jan-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
this might have really damaged his chances


[20-Jan-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing this country i have no faith for 2020


[20-Jan-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also see hillary declaring her candidacy last minute to the horror of everyone


[20-Jan-19 05:09 PM] Honahue#0656
If she becomes the Dems candidate I'll vote for Trump with the hope that ha does kill us all


[20-Jan-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's already sending out hype men to fill the media with "will she, wont she" questions


[20-Jan-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
if only AOC could run


[20-Jan-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
but she's too young


[20-Jan-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would vote for her


[20-Jan-19 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
probably wouldn't win in the primary though


[20-Jan-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the DNC is likely stacked with neoliberals anyway


[20-Jan-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trump's plan if he hadn't won the election was to open a news network


[20-Jan-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile Mcconnell just declared a bill to curb lobbying corruption as "anti democratic" and "a power grab"


[20-Jan-19 05:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Hmmmmmm


[20-Jan-19 05:19 PM] Mikey#7286
It's almost as if


[20-Jan-19 05:19 PM] Mikey#7286
He's a corrupt pos


[20-Jan-19 05:21 PM] Mikey#7286
"I need my corrupt power"


[20-Jan-19 05:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[20-Jan-19 05:22 PM] Mikey#7286
I bet McConnell is why Trump never made up term limits for Congress which is one thing he proposed


[20-Jan-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[20-Jan-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if such a bill existe dhe likely kept it from leaving the senate


[20-Jan-19 05:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Even if Trump actually wanted to do that, it's pretty obvious people like McConnell would have snaked their way in his mind to say "don't do this" because McConnell wants another term


[20-Jan-19 05:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahaha


[20-Jan-19 05:25 PM] Mikey#7286
Yup


[20-Jan-19 05:26 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1343/enact-term-limits/

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Updated - Trump-O-Meter:  Enact term limits
"If I'm elected president, I will push for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress."
https://static.politifact.com/rulings/pledge-meters/facebook/promise-broken.png


[20-Jan-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/18/18188150/mitch-mcconnell-house-democrats-anti-corruption-bill-hr1

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https://www.vox.com/2019/1/18/18188150/mitch-mcconnell-house-democrats-anti-corruption-bill-hr1
Mitch McConnell calls House Democrats’ anti-corruption bill a "p...
McConnell just outlined his opposition to HR 1 in scathing detail.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9esu64yTfbSaxdq8urq-UOIEqUY=/0x453:3160x2107/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13598118/1067524126.jpg.jpg


[20-Jan-19 05:26 PM] Mikey#7286
```In a November 2016 press conference, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., was asked if the Senate would consider legislation to limit terms. McConnell responded, "I would say we have term limits now. They're called elections. And it will not be on the agenda in the Senate."

We checked with his office, and a spokesman said that McConnell's position remains the same two years on. McConnell's opposition alone makes it nearly impossible for the idea to be considered in the Senate while he's leader, which essentially puts the kibosh on the idea```


[20-Jan-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They're called elections and I win mien yearly because kentucky is awful"


[20-Jan-19 05:28 PM] Mikey#7286
God


[20-Jan-19 05:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump may be awful


[20-Jan-19 05:29 PM] Mikey#7286
But McConnell is a whole nother level of shit


[20-Jan-19 05:29 PM] Mikey#7286
And he's served the Senate for years


[20-Jan-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Here’s what HR 1 actually does
HR 1 has a lot in it, but here are some of the key points (for more, read the bill explainer):

The bill would require Super PACs and “dark money” political organizations to make their donors public.
It would set up a voluntary option to publicly finance campaigns, powered by small donations. The federal government would provide a voluntary 6-1 match for candidates for president and Congress, which means for every dollar a candidate raises from small donations, the federal government would match it six times over. The maximum small donation that could be matched would be capped at $200.
The president and vice president and presidential/vice presidential candidates would be required to disclose 10 years of their tax returns.
It would put in stricter lobbying registration requirements, with more oversight of foreign agents.
It would set up nonpartisan redistricting commissions to end partisan gerrymandering, and create new national automatic voter registration asking voters to opt out, rather than opt in.
It would make Election Day a holiday for federal employees and encourage private sector businesses to do the same.


[20-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[20-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Of course McConnell is against it


[20-Jan-19 05:32 PM] Mikey#7286
It'd mean he probably doesn't get reelected


[20-Jan-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope it passes to kick his ass


[20-Jan-19 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl call it the mcconnell act jsut to spite him


[20-Jan-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jan-19 05:58 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[20-Jan-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whats that fact chekcing website again?


[20-Jan-19 06:35 PM] Mikey#7286
politifact


[20-Jan-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other one


[20-Jan-19 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
snopes


[20-Jan-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks


[20-Jan-19 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
I found this one too https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media
We are the most comprehensive media bias resource on the internet. Don’t be fooled by Fake News sources. Search Media Bias. View Fact Checks. Breaking News.
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[20-Jan-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted to check current statistics of government employment by political party


[20-Jan-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is a dumb arguement anyway but i want to be petty and rub it in soemone;s face


[20-Jan-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really need to update polls. Most of what i;m fidning is from 2015


[20-Jan-19 06:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jan/22/taking-measure-federal-workforce/

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Taking the measure of the federal workforce
Politicians have often painted the federal workforce as a drag on the federal budget and burden for the taxpayer. Look no further than President Ronald Reagan, who famously said,
https://static.politifact.com/politifact/photos/Federal_building.jpg


[20-Jan-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
that one has information from september 2017


[20-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ei1Hh9V

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https://imgur.com/gallery/Ei1Hh9V
How US tax brackets work (Plus helpful video). Stay informed!
https://i.imgur.com/qPa3CJUh.jpg


[20-Jan-19 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that republicans are using people's ignorance of tax brackets to say that cortez wants to put a 70% tax on all americans


[20-Jan-19 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, to congressmen and their social circles, it's a 70% income tax


[20-Jan-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Other americans are just what they see on TV or through their armored car windows


[20-Jan-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/giuliani-100-percent-certain-trump-didn-t-direct-cohen-lie-n960721

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Giuliani: '100 percent' certain Trump didn't direct Cohen to lie, ...
Giuliani said it would be "perfectly normal" if Trump had talked to Cohen about his testimony to Congress
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_03/2723236/190120-rudy-giuliani-se-1152a_2d116f75ad1ef89dc5f49063abb57f42.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Jan-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy pls


[20-Jan-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rudy, pick a fucking story


[20-Jan-19 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
I-I-I never said there was no collusion


[20-Jan-19 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
As far as he knows you did


[20-Jan-19 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Well as far as he knows that's true!


[20-Jan-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of the corrupt people are startign to develop dementia


[20-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-nireland/two-arrested-over-northern-ireland-car-bomb-new-ira-suspected-idUSKCN1PE0FW

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-nireland/two-arrested-over-northern-ireland-car-bomb-new-ira-suspected-idUSKCN1PE0FW
Two arrested over Northern Ireland car bomb, New IRA suspected
Two men were arrested early on Sunday over a car bomb attack in Northern Ireland...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190120&t=2&i=1347782174&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0J0J4


[20-Jan-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
apparently northern ireland is becoming bomb happy again


[20-Jan-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh fun


[20-Jan-19 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
habbening


[20-Jan-19 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://thinkprogress.org/far-right-content-survived-tumblr-purge-36635e6aba4b/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-letters

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Luke Barnes
https://thinkprogress.org/far-right-content-survived-tumblr-purge-36635e6aba4b/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tp-letters
One month after controversial adult-content purge, far-right pages...
White nationalist propaganda is still extremely easy to find.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/tumblr-nazis.jpg?w=1280&h=720&crop=1


[20-Jan-19 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
whoumst would even thought


[20-Jan-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am flabbergasted, uttlerly bamboozled to the point of having vapers!


[20-Jan-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/macron-grand-debate-yellow-vests/580810/

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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/macron-grand-debate-yellow-vests/580810/
The Yellow Vests Are Going to Change France. We Just Don’t Know How.
By inaugurating a national “grand debate,” can Macron harness the concerns of citizens without undermining his government’s own mandate?
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/01/GettyImages_1082166276/facebook.jpg?1547844247


[20-Jan-19 08:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I think it is weird how no protesters are being interviewed by more mainstream news. BBC,SKY,CNN are just talking about the riots and not about why people are out there protesting.


[20-Jan-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
When it's Pitt's Terror 2.0


[20-Jan-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think one of the few major figures who would talk about the Yellow Vests would be Richard Wolff, but that's because he has dual citizenship between the US and France and one whole side of his family is French. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4wkd5ISek

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The Zero Hour with RJ Eskow
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Prof. Richard Wolff: Whats Coming in 2019?
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[20-Jan-19 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/NPPQ5R80SlI

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Jamarl Thomas
https://youtu.be/NPPQ5R80SlI
Richard Wolff | Masterfully Explains France's Yellow Vest Movement
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[20-Jan-19 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
But Wolff isn't a leading media figure in the anglo sphere.


[20-Jan-19 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
So long as we're protesting R Kelly as opposed to the government, I think the media will be fine exploring the reasons behind a protest.


[20-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pakistan-afghanistan/senator-graham-urges-trump-to-meet-pakistan-pm-khan-idUSKCN1PE0OI

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Senator Graham urges Trump to meet Pakistan PM Khan
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said on Sunday President Donald Trump should m...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190120&t=2&i=1347843026&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0J0X0


[20-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
"Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said on Sunday President Donald Trump should meet Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan as soon as possible to reset long-difficult U.S. relations with Pakistan and push for a peaceful settlement in Afghanistan."


[20-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/world/europe/poland-gdansk-mayor-funeral-pawel-adamowicz.html

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By MARC SANTORA and JOANNA BERENDT
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/19/world/europe/poland-gdansk-mayor-funeral-pawel-adamowicz.html
Mayor’s Funeral Unites Gdansk. His Killing Exposed Poland’s De...
Even before the mayor, Pawel Adamowicz, was laid to rest on Saturday, it was clear that his death could have profound political consequences.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/20/world/20poland-funeral1/20poland-funeral1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[20-Jan-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
fascist poland when


[20-Jan-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
fascist poland marching on russia, then the rest of europe after trump pulls the US out of NATO when


[20-Jan-19 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/model-apologizes-claim-russia-election-interference-60491472

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https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/model-apologizes-claim-russia-election-interference-60491472
Model in Russian court apologizes for US election claim
A Belarusian model and self-styled sex instructor who last year claimed to have evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election said Saturday that she apologizes to a Russian tycoon for the claim and won't say more about the matter. Anastasia Vashukevi...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/WireAP_70a14d783e8c4b61ab602a1eb173dc9a_16x9_992.jpg


[20-Jan-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was this before or after she was drugged and abducted in an airport?


[20-Jan-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.instagram.com/p/BswclJNAXse/

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Зацаринский Дмитрий on Instagram: “Welcome и...
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[20-Jan-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably after


[20-Jan-19 11:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ63-LMSv8k

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ63-LMSv8k
Acid Attacks, Extremists and Leftist Reactionaries
Why do radical leftists defend Islamic homophobia? You can support me via: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/sargonofakkad SubscribeStar: https://www.subscribest...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fZ63-LMSv8k/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Los rescatadores calculan que el rescate de Julen no podrá completarse hasta el martes"
https://elpais.com/politica/2019/01/20/actualidad/1547970816_082092.html

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Última hora | La búsqueda de Julen en el pozo de Totalán, en M...
La perforadora ya ha excavado más de 45 metros del túnel vertical con el que se intenta llegar al lugar donde se cree que está el niño, atrapado desde el pasado domingo
https://ep00.epimg.net/politica/imagenes/2019/01/20/actualidad/1547970816_082092_1548001341_rrss_normal.jpg


[20-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
there's.... a lot more conservative reactionaries than leftist reactionaries


[20-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I have to wonder how much of the kid will even be left after being in the dirt for 9 days


[20-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
kind of comes with the territory tbh


[20-Jan-19 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny how conservatives try to put leftists on the defensive by first making a discriminatory claim, then cherrypicking examples of the group they're discriminating against being shitty in order to attack leftists for defending the group as a whole


[20-Jan-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/leslie-jones-slams-insulting-new-ghostbusters-movie-781951/

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Daniel Kreps
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/leslie-jones-slams-insulting-new-ghostbusters-movie-781951/
Leslie Jones Slams ‘Insulting’ New ‘Ghostbusters’ Movie: ...
“It’s like something trump would do. (Trump voice) ‘Gonna redo ghostbusteeeeers, better with men, will be huge’,” SNL actress tweets of franchise’s 2020 installment
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/shutterstock_9213932a.jpg


[20-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What a crybaby bitchgirl


[20-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Honahue#0656
maybe if it wasn't a bad movie they wouldn't feel the need to reboot it 4 years later


[20-Jan-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"My shitty cringe-comedy movie reboot that erased the cult classic movies is being ignored in favour of a faithful continuation of the series lead by actual fans and people that worked on the originals! I'm being attacked by straight white men!"


[20-Jan-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe if she didn't spend her time whining about her continuity being dropped, she could've made it into the movie


[20-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
she was the best actress in Ghostbusters 2016


[20-Jan-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, her and her character were one of the only good parts of the movie.


[20-Jan-19 11:53 PM] Honahue#0656
if they'd've hired a writer the movie could have been good


[20-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the original people gave her reboot their blessings


[20-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She can't do the same


[20-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really @Nebbie


[20-Jan-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's the one comedian in it that has no talent


[20-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The other ones are way funnier, just not in that movie


[20-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talent is a complicated thing. She worked in that movie by not being bland.


[20-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Two of them are utterly forgettable characters in every way


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Holtzman is kinda memorable, but the actress didn't put enuff intensity in her and didn't deliver the lines right


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Her "comedy" is painful and borderline racist


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's the nature of comedy


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It feels like she plays a stereotype that is safe to laugh at


[20-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like so white people can laugh at the funny black lady doing black things


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
you will make far more people laff by poking at societal issues than you will with "Would it be better or worse if I told you that came from the front?"


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The blakk lady is the only one with common sense


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
the other three act like they were born yesterday


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So a magic negro


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Jan-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would be if she did anything special; she doesn't


[21-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
All she does in the movie is not take people's shit and them a car.


[21-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very refreshing compared to the rest of the way the 4 act.


[21-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the way that movie was written, she's much more decent.


[21-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when Tara Strong complained that they replaced her as VA of Bubbles


[21-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly


[21-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was one of the best things to happen to her career, not being associated with it


[21-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's probably already finished recording for FiM


[21-Jan-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://66.media.tumblr.com/4b9538feb7dad93cdee93ac5350bec6e/tumblr_pleo08DpID1shiv3ro1_640.png

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[21-Jan-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When HBomber has raised over 200,000$ for Mermaids.

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[21-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Praise Sobek


[21-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Honahue#0656
may he gift you with plentiful semen


[21-Jan-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
is this king k rool


[21-Jan-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
No this is Sobek


[21-Jan-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The father of Pharoahs and the lord of Semen


[21-Jan-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who "encourages" the sun to keep moving


[21-Jan-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And now be way of Hbomber the post-modern SJW god of trans


[21-Jan-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
I was joking


[21-Jan-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
sobek skin for k rool when


[21-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
iirc in ancient egyptian mythology, the world was created when some god masturbated and ejaculated on a lifeless rock


[21-Jan-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
"Before there was anything, there was Atum, the creator God and main deity of the Egyptian pantheon, who existed by himself. He was surrounded by nothingness, so he decided to put an end to his long solitude and created the world and the rest of the Egyptian gods through masturbation. From his ejaculation emerged the first pair of twin gods, Shu (air god) and Tefnut (moisture goddess). Atum's semen was the origin of the world, and masturbation the act of creation."


[21-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, some god masturbated into nothingness and created the world


[21-Jan-19 01:11 AM] Honahue#0656
more like Tef-NUT


[21-Jan-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/B4LPiCM.jpg

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[21-Jan-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
66% of millennials don't know what auschwitz is


[21-Jan-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/04/12/two-thirds-of-millennials-dont-know-what-auschwitz-is-according-to-study-of-fading-holocaust-knowledge/


[21-Jan-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well given half the schools in this country have history textbooks formt he 1800's i;m not surprised


[21-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Honahue#0656
"Asked to identify what Auschwitz is, 41 percent of respondents and 66 percent of millennials could not come up with a correct response identifying it as a concentration camp or extermination camp."


[21-Jan-19 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
And this falls into a whole other thing: what knowledge is priority in a democratic society? Does knowing where or what Auschwitz mean anything to American democracy when there are far more pressing personal issues someone would need to know about? Does simply knowing *of* the thing have any meaning? And you could keep going from there, if schools are meant to teach then does knowing that a thing is or was mean anything in comparison to the hows or means it came to be, how it could be, or what it means to society or an individual?


[21-Jan-19 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
probably assumed a concentration camp is an extermination camp if I was being generous


[21-Jan-19 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
"Respondents indicated much more awareness of modern-day bias against Jews, with 68 percent saying anti-Semitism is present in America today, and 51 percent saying there are “many” or “a great deal of” neo-Nazis in the United States today"


[21-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@Honahue I believe that isn't "people though it was a concentration camp when it was really an extermination camp"


[21-Jan-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But rather an "or" of "they couldn't identify it as either"


[21-Jan-19 01:48 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe, but unprompted recall is one of the harder things to do so unless they had been studying for a test about the holocaust it's believable that someone could have forgotten, most millennial are in their late 20's to early 30's they've been out of school for awhile now. They clearly do understand that anti-semitism and neo-nazi are still a problem in the US


[21-Jan-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But... it's the holocaust


[21-Jan-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I have personal experience with this


[21-Jan-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of my flatmates during uni didn't know about WW2 and the cold war


[21-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thought the cold war was when the US attacked Russia to take over Alaska, in the 1980s


[21-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And WW2 was sometime in the 60s


[21-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And this was a uni student


[21-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(in the UK)


[21-Jan-19 01:50 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but the article says they couldn't identify Auschwitz, not that they couldn't identify the holocaust


[21-Jan-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[21-Jan-19 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1087150318079610880?s=21

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[21-Jan-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what has she done exactly?


[21-Jan-19 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing


[21-Jan-19 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comedy


[21-Jan-19 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Start an anti bullying campaign when her husband spends most of his time shitting on people over twitter and campaign rallies, with tens of millions as a hungry audience


[21-Jan-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A campaign that died like a week after it was announced


[21-Jan-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also she got some random WH staffer sacked


[21-Jan-19 02:15 AM] moonatik#3676
>anti bullying campaign


[21-Jan-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what? why?


[21-Jan-19 02:15 AM] moonatik#3676
:lol:


[21-Jan-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/13/melania-trump-mira-ricardel-aide-to-be-fired-white-house-latest

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Senior White House aide set to be fired after Melania Trump calls ...
Mira Ricardel is deputy security adviser and a John Bolton ally and reportedly clashed with members of first lady’s staff
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[21-Jan-19 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone completely unrelated to anything the "first lady"'s purview pissed her off by treating her as the window dressing she is


[21-Jan-19 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So she had a tantrum to get her sacked


[21-Jan-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[21-Jan-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a lot of comedy media about how Melania is a hostage or the like


[21-Jan-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But she's just as shitty as Trump


[21-Jan-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just is more publicly "honest" about not loving him


[21-Jan-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
First Lady Gold Digger


[21-Jan-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she tried to be michelle obama and failed hard because that's not at all her personality


[21-Jan-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's a raging diva whose married to money and acitizenship document. and her husband is the total opposite of what her campaign tried to be


[21-Jan-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course BuzzFeed is standing by the report


[21-Jan-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's clicks and page views


[21-Jan-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
obviously they were paid by trump to introduce more uncertainty to the investigation in the public mind


[21-Jan-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President shouldn't be able to criticize the media


[21-Jan-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As an aside


[21-Jan-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At the end of it all, if they're proven wrong, they can just say their informant seemed 100% legit and lied to them


[21-Jan-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Media should he able to do anything but libel or slander


[21-Jan-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're swearing it will be borne out eventually


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There were some connections


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
doxxing is bad too


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feels like it could be a leak but probably not


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just wait for Cohen I guess


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
the EU does anonymity of accused much better than the US


[21-Jan-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right to be forgotten is no right at all


[21-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Crow, not really


[21-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially given how fucking disgusting the people who wanted to be forgotten in the EU were


[21-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, UK is hyper-eager to publish everything they have on anyone accused of even the most minor thing


[21-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A guy who wanted to commit a fraud by hiding a past bankruptcy


[21-Jan-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And a guy who killed two people in the 90s drunk driving and wanted to be anonymized


[21-Jan-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people who want the protection of right to be forgotten


[21-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've searched for my name on google


[21-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And gotten the little "We've removed results from your search based on privacy requests from EU citizens"


[21-Jan-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And just "wait, who...."


[21-Jan-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Google kowtowing like that is terrible


[21-Jan-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as bad as their terrible China shit but still


[21-Jan-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[21-Jan-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i googled myself and got my address from fastpeople search...


[21-Jan-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck


[21-Jan-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are loads of sites that craw the web for names


[21-Jan-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and my families information from spookeo


[21-Jan-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking internet


[21-Jan-19 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Match them with linkedin, any social media, any news articles, collate them with shit you can get off the white pages, off free legal info requests


[21-Jan-19 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then publish it on ad-ridden pages with "more info" subscription or pay on request services


[21-Jan-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnet.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-was-on-twitch-talking-about-her-love-of-the-nintendo-64/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez drops in on Twitch stream, says Nintendo ...
Aaron Sorkin told democrats like AOC to stop acting like "young people", so she went on a Donkey Kong livestream and talked about Pokemon Snap and why the N64 is the best console.
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[21-Jan-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm on the fence; the PS1 had a lot of good stuff


[21-Jan-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reviving the 90's console wars


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I have both mwahahahaha


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Stop acting liek what you are, you're making us old folk look liek what we are!"


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
So did I @Honahue


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
They've since disappeared into the void of time


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
aww, I still ahve all my game consoles


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have all my game consoles


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whethewr they work is another question


[21-Jan-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I have a Gamecube still but no games


[21-Jan-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
my melee disk doesn't work anymore, I played it too much


[21-Jan-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I never had melee


[21-Jan-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or brawl


[21-Jan-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i only got bakc into smash bros with the 3ds version


[21-Jan-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk I can give you a list


[21-Jan-19 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Wave Race Blue Storm, F-Zero GX, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door, Pikmin 1/2, Chibi Robo, Geist, MGS Twin Snakes, Melee, DK Konga


[21-Jan-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Windwaker is best on Wii U


[21-Jan-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pikmin was a game I always wanted to get into, but I only ever played it at a friend's house.


[21-Jan-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never even gotto play it at a friends hosue


[21-Jan-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
" talked about Pokemon Snap and why the N64 is the best console."
Hope she never runs for president, because that's my vote against her


[21-Jan-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
pokemon snap was neat


[21-Jan-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't particularly fun, but neat to play


[21-Jan-19 04:08 AM] RYDE#8862
Pokemon Stadium was fun. Super Mario 64 is even better


[21-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pokemon Snap is great


[21-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the PS1 is better


[21-Jan-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's gonna be VP in 2020


[21-Jan-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
I'd recommend getting a bit more experience in congress tbh


[21-Jan-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
I guess being VP is good for experience too


[21-Jan-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
since they don't really do much other than being a swing vote in the senate


[21-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, the official role


[21-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
of course they do other things, but nothing super meaningful


[21-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Please, anyone can be president now experience doesn't matter


[21-Jan-19 04:32 AM] Honahue#0656
you gotta be 35 is the law


[21-Jan-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, you have to be 35 to be VP too


[21-Jan-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
she cannot be VP in 2020


[21-Jan-19 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
she could run 2024 but you know inheriting the hellscape of 2020 Trump's America is gonna be pretty tough


[21-Jan-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
what if Ben shapiro ran next year and won?


[21-Jan-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
oh god he turned 35 last year


[21-Jan-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, this year


[21-Jan-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
just a couple days ago


[21-Jan-19 04:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
😂 🔫


[21-Jan-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it requires you to be 35 when you win the election or 35 when you're actually sworn in


[21-Jan-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sworn in I assume


[21-Jan-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You aren't president until the end of the oath


[21-Jan-19 05:05 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Was a PS1 kid


[21-Jan-19 05:05 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
N64 is honestly my least favorite Nintendo


[21-Jan-19 05:05 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
As for my favorite N64 game, I'd have to say Starfox 64


[21-Jan-19 05:36 AM] RYDE#8862
@Kiryu-Chan Starfox 64's my favorite!


[21-Jan-19 06:05 AM] illumnious#7938
DAY 30

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[21-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
there's been a couple of conservative types claiming that trump will be able to trigger some sort of review for all the furloughed workers and possibly fire them all


[21-Jan-19 08:17 AM] moonatik#3676
I hope you all acknowledge that the hbomberguy thing makes AOC a donkey kongresswoman now


[21-Jan-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[21-Jan-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/world/middleeast/israel-attack-syria-iran.html

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Israel Confirms Another Attack on Iranian Targets in Syria
The admission of the air raid near Damascus came a week after Israel lifted the veil on its campaign to curb Iranian influence in the region
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[21-Jan-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time


[21-Jan-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/iNfP4d2.jpg

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[21-Jan-19 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jan-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436

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Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course
The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company's application to build a sea wall.
https://static.politico.com/b4/e0/61eb1f6f4a2ca3d2540d7f0a3e16/lede-160520-trump-doonbeg-ap-1160.jpg


[21-Jan-19 02:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PE0L2

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Police fire tear gas as Greeks protest against Macedonia name deal
Police fired tear gas to disperse protesters outside parliament on Sunday as tens of thousands of Greeks rallied in Athens to protest ahead of next week's parliamentary vote to ratify a name deal with Macedonia.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190120&t=2&i=1347810397&w=&fh=545px&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXNPEF0J0PK


[21-Jan-19 02:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why


[21-Jan-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20190121/sen-mitch-mcconnell-to-offer-bill-to-end-shutdown

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Sen. Mitch McConnell to offer bill to end shutdown
WASHINGTON — Sen. Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, plans this week to bring up legislation that would immediately reopen the government and incorporate President Donald Trump’s proposal to offer temporary protections to some immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion ...
https://www.dispatch.com/storyimage/OH/20190121/NEWS/190129828/AR/0/AR-190129828.jpg&MaxW=1200&MaxH=630


[21-Jan-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“The legislation that the majority leader will bring to the floor this week would both reopen the remaining portions of the government, fund disaster relief, fund border security and address immigration issues that both Republicans and Democrats would like to address — all in one bill,” McConnell’s deputy chief of staff Don Stewart said.


[21-Jan-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
By coupling government funding with the plan Trump unveiled Saturday, McConnell — who has until now stayed on the sidelines in the shutdown debate — is hoping to shift blame for the shutdown to Democrats\


[21-Jan-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's happy veto whore is finally making his move


[21-Jan-19 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
He can't do that though, can he?


[21-Jan-19 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Via US constitution


[21-Jan-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Appropriations bills have to start in the house


[21-Jan-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really can't but that's probably why he;s doing it


[21-Jan-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hels going to try having it start in the hosue and when the hosue refuses to host said bill, he;s going to point at them and go "Look at these monsters denying you your government"


[21-Jan-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This isn;t about tyring to re-open the government. it;s about making Mcconnell look good to the american people so they'll more willingly vote for his corrupt ass


[21-Jan-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
That wapo op ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/call-hr-1-what-it-is-the-democrat-politician-protection-act/2019/01/17/dcc957be-19cb-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on


[21-Jan-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
This is by McConnell


[21-Jan-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant read Wapo right now i hit the free article limit for the month


[21-Jan-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nvm apparently i can bypass this with incognito mode


[21-Jan-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so it;s basically an op ed about everything he woudl do if he had total power, but misdirected to blame democrats


[21-Jan-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck that guy...


[21-Jan-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh ffs


[21-Jan-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-copyright/in-win-for-tech-giants-eu-copyright-reforms-stalled-idUSKCN1PF1AL

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In win for tech giants, EU copyright reforms stalled
EU efforts to reform copyright rules hit a roadblock on Monday as a meeting of l...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190121&t=2&i=1348148022&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0K0SS


[21-Jan-19 07:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dynamic URL changes should be banned and whoever thought it was a good idea dragged into the street and beaten with sticks until dead


[21-Jan-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/rudy-giuliani-says-trump-never-told-cohen-lie/580891/

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Trump and Cohen May Have Discussed the Moscow Project. ‘So What?’
Rudy Giuliani, on the Sunday shows, says the president never told Michael Cohen to lie about pursuing Trump Tower Moscow during the 2016 campaign.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/01/RTX2TOKB/facebook.jpg?1548072885


[21-Jan-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy pls


[21-Jan-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You just took the best thing Trump got in months and made it terrible for him


[21-Jan-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm surprised Rudy hasn;t tried the chewbacca defense yet


[21-Jan-19 08:02 PM] Mikey#7286
rudy rudy rudy ruuuuudy


[21-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1087383245279428609

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https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1087383245279428609
.⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ and ⁦@VP⁩ lay a wreath at the #MLKJr memorial. After saying good morning, he left.  Total trip time: about a minute or two.
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[21-Jan-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
apparently trump and pence made a surprise, unannounced visit to the MLK memorial, laid a wreath, stuck around for about 2 minutes, then left


[21-Jan-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I didnt even know that memorial was a thing.


[21-Jan-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It always looked weird to me


[21-Jan-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/34/7e/14347e662547ad729f428159cc5cc501.jpg

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[21-Jan-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MLK trapped in carbonite


[21-Jan-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also a giant


[21-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
apparently that little shit spoke out about the confrontation with the native americans


[21-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
and says there was nothing there, fox news is eating it up


[21-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Black Israelites started shit


[21-Jan-19 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/ai86tb/surrounded_and_mocked_covington_catholic_high/

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[21-Jan-19 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[21-Jan-19 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/aicq1c/to_all_you_redditors_defending_the_racism_of/

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[21-Jan-19 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"But he was just smirking at the native dude hur dur"


[21-Jan-19 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These are the same people who believe in marxist school indoctrination, mind you


[21-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
wait a minute, the ok hand sign is a white nationalist gesture?


[21-Jan-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was co-opted by /pol/ as one to derail the conversation. But white nationalism and fascism also has a thing of rapidly changing symbols, esspecially online.


[22-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine saying that people who want communist stuff are dumb because it tried and failed but then wanting another system that was tried and failed


[22-Jan-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now it's "oh but they never failed on their own"


[22-Jan-19 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism rarely fails... in its goal to wreck the third world and the peripheries for the benefit of a few


[22-Jan-19 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It works systematically well, if we go by that perspective


[22-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fascism is inherently anti capitalist


[22-Jan-19 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, fascism?


[22-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the entire point


[22-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is a "third way"


[22-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither communist or democratic


[22-Jan-19 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it only claims to be. Almost all of Germany's industry was privatized by Hitler, remember.


[22-Jan-19 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It did have quite a few capitalist elements in place.


[22-Jan-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At best you get state enforced monopolies that kowtow to what the state needs


[22-Jan-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
German propaganda often talked about how bad American consumer culture was


[22-Jan-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Made fun of Superman, war bonds etc


[22-Jan-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/superman.htm


[22-Jan-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/4EmXrP2.jpg

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Joey Salads: the guy defending the Hitler youth in DC today
https://i.imgur.com/4EmXrP2.jpg


[22-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Jerry Siegel, an intellectually and physically circumcised chap who has his headquarters in New York, is the inventor of a colorful figure with an impressive appearance, a powerful body, and a red swim suit who enjoys the ability to fly through the ether."


[22-Jan-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't Joey Salads the guy who attempted to incite a race riot with that Trump car in a majority black neighborhood as a "social experiment"


[22-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AmishPornStar1/status/1087162480323936256

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https://twitter.com/AmishPornStar1/status/1087162480323936256
@Michell30439910 @volduckmike @KKHannegan @pcjennie11 @BettyBowers Remember this little guy that Trump hand-picked for a photo-op at a school? Go ahead and zoom in on him.
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[22-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46946612

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TV host jailed for interviewing gay man
An Egyptian presenter gets one year of hard labour for hosting a gay man on his show last year.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/6834/production/_105267662_036b7b36-5254-4ae1-bafb-d9eaa7e51192.jpg


[22-Jan-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:c


[22-Jan-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Darn


[22-Jan-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
geeze


[22-Jan-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-missiles/report-reveals-an-undeclared-north-korean-missile-base-headquarters-idUSKCN1PF24C

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Report reveals an undeclared North Korean missile base headquarters
One of 20 undeclared ballistic missile operating bases in North Korea serves as ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190121&t=2&i=1348263008&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0K1CF


[22-Jan-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/davos-world-economic-forum-elites-inequality-globalization_us_5c45ed5be4b027c3bbc4327c

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Elites Gather In Davos As The World Spirals Into Crisis
"The plutocrats who shattered the world order are gathering to make out in the mountains."
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[22-Jan-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
"According to a report from the anti-poverty coalition Oxfam, timed to coincide with Davos, the world’s 2,200 billionaires grew 12 percent wealthier last year. But the wealth is not trickling down. The poorest half of the world got 11 percent poorer in 2018, and today the top 26 billionaires own the same wealth as the poorest 3.8 billion people."


[22-Jan-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/technology/google-europe-gdpr-fine.html

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By ADAM SATARIANO
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/technology/google-europe-gdpr-fine.html
Google Is Fined $57 Million Under Europe’s Data Privacy Law
France penalized the company for not properly disclosing to users how data is collected across its services to present personalized advertising.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/22/business/22GOOGLE-promo/22GOOGLE-promo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[22-Jan-19 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oof, That's almost half an hour of revenue


[22-Jan-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
When do we get proportional fines


[22-Jan-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
never


[22-Jan-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
because that would make sense


[22-Jan-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
and neoliberalism is all about doing insane things to maximize profits


[22-Jan-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Jan-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/hbomberguys-donkey-kong-64-trans-charity-marathon-stream


[22-Jan-19 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Can transphobics and other alt-righters be called beavers now because they get so bothered when people are given basic human dignity?


[22-Jan-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Its transphobes not transphobics check ur privilege


[22-Jan-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
:v


[22-Jan-19 03:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Nah probably mean to beavers


[22-Jan-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives are going crazy over the "fake news" about the catholic school kids


[22-Jan-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
"see!?!?!? we aren't ACTUALLY racist, those BLACK PEOPLE started it!!!"


[22-Jan-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the one with the smug kid and the elder native?


[22-Jan-19 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
That smug kid had the world's most punchable grin


[22-Jan-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really did


[22-Jan-19 03:48 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/ai86tb/surrounded_and_mocked_covington_catholic_high/

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[22-Jan-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but apparently there;s more tot he story than just the video gave, though it's mostly about who approached who. The elderly native approached the smug kid but the natives also weren;t the ones yelling racial slurs and maga quotes, so yeah...


[22-Jan-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it apparently didnt get violent though so that's kinda nice for once


[22-Jan-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though the catholic school kids were clearly there to intimidate


[22-Jan-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
who reported the story originally?


[22-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure


[22-Jan-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but chances are several news sites jumped ont he image before actuall information got out


[22-Jan-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/1705399

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[22-Jan-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberals in a nutshell


[22-Jan-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/theresa-may-s-brexit-plan-b-expected-be-tweaked-version-n960881

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May aims to break Brexit deadlock — but her plan B looks familiar
More than one-third of lawmakers from May's Conservative Party voted against her divorce proposal last week.
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[22-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ivanka-trump-trademarks-china-20190121-story.html

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Ivanka Trump receives five more trademarks in China, fueling ethic...
Ivanka Trump's expanding intellectual property holdings — particularly in China, where the courts and bureaucracy tend to reflect the will of the ruling Communist Party — have long raised ethical concerns.
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[22-Jan-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/tvoucfgLmFU

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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez on Hbomberguy's charity stream
US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez visited Hbomberguy's Donkey Kong 64 livestream to voice her support for trans rights. The stream received overwhelm...
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[22-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I want the whole stream uploaded to YouTube


[22-Jan-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
is it even possible to upload a 57 hour long video to youtube


[22-Jan-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[22-Jan-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
There are videos in excess of 2000 hours


[22-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
lol wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cF1m6Jxu8

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Social Media https://goo.gl/z73XEP My Other Youtube Channels https://goo.gl/KXCVuk Ways to support me https://goo.gl/btVag1
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[22-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
it says "This video is unavailable on this device."


[22-Jan-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
I'm on a desktop


[22-Jan-19 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[22-Jan-19 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm on a phone same problem


[22-Jan-19 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s too long to properly work...


[22-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Either way I hope it gets archived somewhere


[22-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Highlight reel maybe


[22-Jan-19 06:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from the time stamp i think it said the video was 24 years long


[22-Jan-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
I tried opening it in chrome, it's just a black screen there lol


[22-Jan-19 06:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm alreadfy in chrome and it didnt work for me


[22-Jan-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
in firefox, it says " This video is unavailable on this device. "


[22-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1087375230799151109

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"It's a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his bootstraps. 

And many Negroes, by the thousands and millions, have been left bootless … as the result of a society that deliberately made his color a stigma...” 

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[22-Jan-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/al-qaeda-linked-militants-kill-10-u-n-peacekeepers-mali-n960861

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Al Qaeda-linked militants kill 10 U.N. peacekeepers
The West African nation is under threat from a number of extremist groups.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_04/2723571/map_bbd1c3f194c794181f6b4173c1165f88.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[22-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-inauguration-anniversary-far-right-extremism-8f99df3e8e03/

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Two years into Trump’s presidency, far-right extremism has surged
Despite numerous high-profile incidents, the federal government has provided no leadership to law-enforcement in tackling the threat.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/GettyImages-810888668.jpg?w=1280&h=720&crop=1


[22-Jan-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
it turns out that when you use fearmongering language in an attempt to get what you want, you inspire a lot of extremists


[22-Jan-19 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[22-Jan-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1087446667463483397

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Translation:  “I just made s**t up.” https://t.co/wpAeC4vRBJ
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[22-Jan-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my brain hurts...


[22-Jan-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Rudy just stop...


[22-Jan-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/americas/venezuelan-government-military-uprising/index.html

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Venezuelan government quashes military uprising
Venezuela faced more turmoil on Monday when a small team of soldiers, claiming to be members of Venezuela's armed forces, attempted an uprising against the government of President Nicolas Maduro and triggered violent street protests in Caracas.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190121165708-venezuela-protests-0121-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jan-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-dream-world-economic-forum-poll_us_5c4583b7e4b027c3bbc33c48

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Americans Have Lost Faith In Their Ability To Move From Poverty To...
More than two-thirds said it's no longer commonplace for hard work to be a path from poverty to wealth, according to a new World Economic Forum poll.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c459dee230000b8001f9fb6.jpeg?cache=p0vlkqfgvv&ops=1910_1000


[22-Jan-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
People in the United States and other developed countries are losing faith in the capitalist system to improve their lives, according to a new global poll commissioned by the World Economic Forum, published on the eve of its annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland.


[22-Jan-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[22-Jan-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
"Nearly 40 percent of respondents in India said they believe upward mobility was extremely common; in Japan and Italy, just 2 percent did, while in Spain this figure was just 1 percent."


[22-Jan-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
apparently developing countries have a lot more optimism about upwards mobility than developed countries


[22-Jan-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
but that overall, everyone's losing faith in capitalism


[22-Jan-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that tends to happen when a few assholes take advantage of glitches in the system to make their fortune while nerfing everything on the way up...


[22-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure why multiplayer gaming came to mind but yeah


[22-Jan-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/letters/2019/01/19/letter-who-will-profit/

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Letter: Who will profit from Trump’s border wall?
Evraz, Russia's second-largest steel company, owns three American steel companies: one in Pueblo, Colo., one in Portland, Ore., and one in Chicago. Russian Roman Abramovich, who lives in Moscow, owns the controlling shares in these "American" steel companies.
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[22-Jan-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains his sudden shift to steel


[22-Jan-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/426323-russian-oligarch-allies-retain-key-ownership-in-company-after

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Russian oligarch, allies retain key ownership in company after san...
A Russian oligarch with ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin along with his allies will maintain a majority ownership in an energy company under a Treasury Department plan to lift sancti
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[22-Jan-19 02:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow btw, Jair Bolsonaro is participating in the World Economic Forum at Davos


[22-Jan-19 02:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's a very bad orator in regards to more formal things like these


[22-Jan-19 02:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's basically just a meme, after all. Why is he going there?


[22-Jan-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he probably thinks himself the someone of soemones


[22-Jan-19 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro openly and staunchly stated that he "knows jack shit about economics" and would prefer to defer power on economic matters to his minister Paulo Guedes


[22-Jan-19 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So why in the name of fuck did he go there!?


[22-Jan-19 03:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To tell everyone that Brazil's resources can be prostituted now?


[22-Jan-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[22-Jan-19 05:21 PM] Chaos Queen#7641
I fucking hate America sometimes holy FUCK


[22-Jan-19 05:22 PM] Chaos Queen#7641
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/scotus-transgender-ban/index.html

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Supreme Court allows transgender military ban to go into effect
The Supreme Court allowed President Donald Trump's transgender military ban to go into effect on Tuesday, dealing a blow to LGBT activists who call the ban cruel and irrational.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190117154015-supreme-court-1217-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jan-19 05:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/us/viral-video-kentucky-students-toddler-hands-up/index.html

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In four days, three viral videos showed us there's always more to ...
A series of viral videos over the past few days proved that there's always more than one side to every story. But whether they give us the full picture is another question.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190119194820-maga-teens-native-american-march-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jan-19 05:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7r7D2x4WiM

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FreeHealthCareAintFree.mp4
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[22-Jan-19 05:23 PM] Chaos Queen#7641
This is why I need to invest in a punching bag, how is shit like this legal


[22-Jan-19 05:27 PM] Chaos Queen#7641
Open discrimination seems like old news which is just fucking sad


[22-Jan-19 06:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[22-Jan-19 07:40 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mvYUaZYtJk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mvYUaZYtJk
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Says Trans Rights
Had a sitting US congresswoman on my stream to discuss Donkey Kong strategy recently. Here's the clip! I want to thank everyone who worked behind the scenes ...
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[22-Jan-19 07:46 PM] illumnious#7938

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[22-Jan-19 07:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@illumnious 

Mind if I steal it?


[22-Jan-19 07:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Go ahead


[22-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://unicornlordart.tumblr.com/post/182202301594/the-spoopy-ghost-of-raejin99-pancakeke-new

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Unicorn Lord
the best part is he literally fucked up his own plea deal cause he got caught talking to trump’s defense team about the case.
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[22-Jan-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[22-Jan-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, when's a better time to make crazy stupid demands than now?


[22-Jan-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mediaite.com/online/journalists-and-celebs-rush-to-delete-tweets-slamming-maga-hat-kids/

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Pardes Seleh
https://www.mediaite.com/online/journalists-and-celebs-rush-to-delete-tweets-slamming-maga-hat-kids/
Journalists and Celebs Rush to Delete Tweets Slamming MAGA-Hat Kids
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Screen-Shot-2019-01-21-at-8.27.21-AM.jpg


[22-Jan-19 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait, why'd they do this?


[22-Jan-19 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, if one more-or-less insignificant media incident like this is already useful for galvanizing the GOP voterbase...


[22-Jan-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the media portrayed the kids wrong and everyone jumped ont he story before they had actual facts


[22-Jan-19 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rather than, you know, the god damn shutdown


[22-Jan-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also they sent deat threats to children so yeah... that's a reputation killer


[22-Jan-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was aoso a third activist group there who were much worse


[22-Jan-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think very many people would be unhappy if pelosi was shot


[22-Jan-19 10:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My bet is that the GOP's propaganda campaign for 2020 will be exactly like 2016 -- put emphasis on a bunch of democrats acting mean, ignore the rest, and voilá


[22-Jan-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldnt really knwo what to feel if she was shot


[22-Jan-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be happy but i wouldnt be sad either


[22-Jan-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thoughi guess thatdepends on where she was shot


[22-Jan-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't wish trump dead but if you shot him in the leg i;d be grateful


[22-Jan-19 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Federal workers going days without pay and our public system falling into disrepair? That doesn't matter, LOOK AT THESE DEMOCRATS YELLING AT A KID!"


[22-Jan-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2020 is going to be a mess


[22-Jan-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a possibility of this shutdown lasting till 2020 which would pretty much kill our economy


[22-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
once food stamps run out, there would be riots


[22-Jan-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
since there are millions of people who need food stamps in order to survive


[22-Jan-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the question is wether or not mcconnell and trump care if there are riots


[22-Jan-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a riot likely wouldnt be able to reach the front door of the white house where trump would likely barracade his ass in and laugh over twitter


[22-Jan-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and mcconnell would likely pull his infamous houdini act again


[22-Jan-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thewrap.com/vulture-writer-on-covington-students-i-just-want-these-people-to-die-simple-as-that/

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Vulture Writer Who Wished Death on Covington Students Fired From Job
"I just want these people to die. Simple as that. Every single one of them. And their parents," Vultire writer Erik Abriss tweeted
https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Screen-Shot-2019-01-21-at-10.08.05-AM.png


[22-Jan-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/africa/zimbabwe-protests-internet-shutdown-ruling-intl/index.html

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Social media access restored in Zimbabwe
Access to social media platforms in Zimbabwe was reinstated on Monday, hours after a court deemed the government's internet shutdown illegal.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190116165508-zimbabwe-protest-0115-01-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jan-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493257168221372417/537159606754082836/image0.jpg

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[22-Jan-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
I know this is supposed to be a meme and all, but this is the actual current trend


[22-Jan-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
I remember watching a Jetsons movie once where they went to the ground.


[22-Jan-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was covered in golf balls.


[22-Jan-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
btw aaron, did you see this? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-dream-world-economic-forum-poll_us_5c4583b7e4b027c3bbc33c48

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-dream-world-economic-forum-poll_us_5c4583b7e4b027c3bbc33c48
Americans Have Lost Faith In Their Ability To Move From Poverty To...
More than two-thirds said it's no longer commonplace for hard work to be a path from poverty to wealth, according to a new World Economic Forum poll.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c459dee230000b8001f9fb6.jpeg?cache=p0vlkqfgvv&ops=1910_1000


[22-Jan-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
"People in the United States and other developed countries are losing faith in the capitalist system to improve their lives, according to a new global poll commissioned by the World Economic Forum, published on the eve of its annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland."


[22-Jan-19 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
I did


[23-Jan-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[23-Jan-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich babies gamed the system and ruined it for the rest of us


[23-Jan-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's also far less material opportunities for growth that actually introduces new wealth into the economy than merely re-allocating wealth from one area of the economy to another. In a developing market where nothing or very little has existed before hand you can get away with reproducing the methods of production similar to the late 1800's with large buildings hiring a lot of people doing menial tasks day in and day out. But once you reach a certain stage capitalist development freezes, which is why western economies such as our own can only really dream of having sustained 2% GDP growth, where as in developing economies they can easily shoot for two-digit economic growth or even higher growth.


[23-Jan-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
fertility rate correlates with economic growth rate too doesn't it


[23-Jan-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
The issue there-in is that there's a limit to how long that can be carried out before it naturally falls out of equilibrium. The more poor peasant labor you convert to poor manufacturing labor - even if a little bit better than field work - and the more a loss of labor potential is offset in the fields by taking advantage of mechanical work, the smaller the hiring pool and you don't get to suppress wages by claiming a large reserve army of free labor.


[23-Jan-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hence in part why China is trying to do the one thing no one has done, force its economic structure from a manufacturing economy into a service economy, where while they will have slower economic growth over all they won't be as economically vulnerable when India gets into its ascent and can start drinking up China's industrial advantage of the passed forty years.


[23-Jan-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
what will happen if china's thing fails or ends up being worse than letting it happen naturally?


[23-Jan-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
To even draw from Adam Smith, who cites the American colonies a few decades before the revolution: an economy of growth means that there's only ever opportunity and advantage to people involved in it. Wages can grow year on year all the way down, which is the boon of Capitalism when it enters an underdeveloped or undeveloped market. On the other hand, on the Marxist critique after this stage capitalist growth reaches a destructive and concentrating force that benefits less everyone and more and more a select few and wealth accumulates. Lenin takes this a step further by pointing out the accumulation of wealth in a nation begins the process by which financial capital begins to inspire imperialist growth in order to seek out or force new markets for its growth, which has becomes less about the production of goods but more the acquisition of means by which goods can be produced.


[23-Jan-19 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Well then they probably collapse inwards and western bankers can sigh in relief safe in the knowledge that no one can just simply step up from one stage of production to another. Though given China's rising star at its current position as being the only real opposition to American foreign influence I'd honestly say it would be remise that it should fail. It'll make for great drama.


[23-Jan-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
remise?


[23-Jan-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But per @byte[] : Kinda-sorta. A rapidly growing population means a larger worker force than by supply and demand economics implies lower over-all wages for low-skilled but important jobs. It's in part why immigration is such a big deal: white natives in America don't like the idea of competing with people with the same low technical skills field, but the companies do want those people in (because also aforementioned natives aren't going to take those jobs to begin with).


[23-Jan-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
or do you mean remiss


[23-Jan-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Remiss*


[23-Jan-19 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell

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Kermit Gosnell
Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American former physician and abortion provider who was convicted of murdering three infants who were born alive during attempted abortion procedures; he was also convicted of involuntary manslaughter of one woman during an ...


[23-Jan-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, isn't that why janitors and garbage disposal employees have started getting paid a lot more and better benefits and stuff in the past decade or two?


[23-Jan-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
because they're essential but hard and thankless jobs


[23-Jan-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
A strike by these groups would also be far more damaging to the overall economy since so much would freeze up. So they tend to be kept happy.


[23-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N7cnvU6s6Q

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Late Night with Seth Meyers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N7cnvU6s6Q
No One Likes Trump's Latest Shutdown Offer: A Closer Look
Seth takes a closer look at Trump's speech about the government shutdown and the deal he offered that both Democrats and hard- line conservatives have reject...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6N7cnvU6s6Q/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/new-bill-will-charge-people-a-fee-to-unblock-porn-sites-proceeds-to-fund-border-wall

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http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/new-bill-will-charge-people-a-fee-to-unblock-porn-sites-proceeds-to-fund-border-wall
New bill will charge people a fee to unblock porn sites; proceeds ...
A new bill proposed in the Arizona State Legislature will require all digital devices that can access the internet to include porn blockers.
https://media.fox10phoenix.com/media.fox10phoenix.com/photo/2018/01/19/C4ACE0A1C6F440D7B0FCE0B4ED9C2A65_1516416183519_4838982_ver1.0_640_360.jpg


[23-Jan-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[23-Jan-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wowfuck arizona


[23-Jan-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"products that make content accessible on the internet cannot be made, sold, leased, distributed or made in the state unless it contains blocking softwares that blocks obscene materials by default"

"The bill will also make deactivating the blocker by other means a crime."


[23-Jan-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope the bill fails


[23-Jan-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people of arizona dont deserve this abuse


[23-Jan-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that's a violation of the first amendment even if it does pass


[23-Jan-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's violation of the federal constitution and the state constitution


[23-Jan-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.azleg.gov/const/arizona_constitution.pdf Art II, Sec VI


[23-Jan-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Art II, Sec VIII


[23-Jan-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure the bill will fail anyway


[23-Jan-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Griffin "In 2019 Griffin proposed a bill to fund a US-Mexican border wall by levying a tax on Arizonians who look at pornography.[3]"

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Gail Griffin
Gail Griffin is an American politician and a Republican member of the Arizona House of Representatives. She previously served in the Arizona Senate representing District 14 from 2013 to 2019. Griffin served consecutively in the Arizona Senate in the District 20 seat from Janu...


[23-Jan-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically every arizonian ever


[23-Jan-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://time.com/5506482/tsa-screeners-shutdown/

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http://time.com/5506482/tsa-screeners-shutdown/
1 in 10 Airport Screeners Are Calling in Sick. What Can Be Done?
As the shutdown continues, screeners are working without pay, presenting a security risk
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[23-Jan-19 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like a good opportunity for terrorists, unfortunately


[23-Jan-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087786934624272384

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Andrew Wortman (@AmoneyResists)
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087786934624272384
Here’s another copy of the video that still works:
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[23-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318129883421081600/537433055565185034/FB_IMG_1548204410589.jpg

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[23-Jan-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
THONK


[23-Jan-19 01:52 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
wew


[23-Jan-19 01:54 AM] Mikey#7286
using that


[23-Jan-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Poor Kirk tbh, maybe he sees the truth this time


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1087745346766336000

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Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11)
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1087745346766336000
Still cannot stand or walk, but despite all the leftists commenting wishing for my suffering to continue or my imminent death, don’t worry I’ll be just fine. https://t.co/qs34VcUR06
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[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
he doesn't


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
he's pretending it's a direct attack on him and a bunch of people wishing for him to die


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
what an idiot


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They never do lol


[23-Jan-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
he doesn't deserve death but he's still a nitwit


[23-Jan-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/sen-warner-introduced-bill-to-end-future-government-shutdowns/291-6398cc5d-b67a-4263-a48a-a530fe76fda6

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Sen. Warner introduced bill to end future government shutdowns
Senator Warner's Stop STUPIDITY (Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Damage In The Coming Years) Act would fund the government except for the legislative branch and the Executive Office of the President
https://media.13newsnow.com/assets/WVEC/images/59d6d5dd-ad53-47ac-9057-99682213d405/59d6d5dd-ad53-47ac-9057-99682213d405_1140x641.jpg


[23-Jan-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scribd.com/document/398006535/Stop-the-Shutdowns-Transferring-Unnecessary-Pain-and-Inflicting-Damage-In-The-Coming-Years-Act

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Stop the Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Da...
Stop the Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Damage In The Coming Years Act
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[23-Jan-19 03:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6_6jpLyjjI

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6_6jpLyjjI
The #CovingtonCatholic KKK
I have decided to fully believe the Blue Checkmark Narrative. This smug grin is just the precursor to a smuckle, which is the first step towards genocide. Yo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F6_6jpLyjjI/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
>sargon


[23-Jan-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
\*incoherent rambling ensues*


[23-Jan-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent watched that guy in 3 years


[23-Jan-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Carl "i'm gonna support Bolsonaro if leftists don't stop using the hammer and sickle" Benjamin


[23-Jan-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh that makes way more sense


[23-Jan-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wasn't this dude a smug atheist some time ago


[23-Jan-19 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is he showing such leniency to Bolsonaro lol


[23-Jan-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont evne knwo who carl benjamin is


[23-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLgrKoGkDM

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The Iconoclast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLgrKoGkDM
#MAGAKIDS Attacked By Media | Narrative Falls Apart | Fake News St...
Buy The Iconoclast magazine - https://www.iconoclast-media.com/magazine/ Support me monthly on SubscribeStar, an alternative to Patreon; https://www.subscrib...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6hLgrKoGkDM/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) Sargon


[23-Jan-19 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We prefer using his ordinary name to not feed his ego


[23-Jan-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[23-Jan-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder why it's more popular to hate on communists than nazis even though nazis have the bad shit baked into their very ideology, while communism is bad because the people who called themselves communist were bad


[23-Jan-19 04:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not sure where you at but nazis get hated on 24/7 while communist are considered "misunderstood."


[23-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
or at the very least, it seems a lot more people follow nationalist groups/videos/channels/etc than communist ones


[23-Jan-19 04:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
But both ideology's are bad because they are more or less two sides of the same coin in the end.


[23-Jan-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
not really, authoritarianism and totalitarianism are two sides of the same coin


[23-Jan-19 04:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's just view from where you are. You are looking at a bunch of people that align with a certain ideology. Incompatible ideology people on one side with hate the other if they align more with one side.


[23-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
and authoritarianism is built into nazism


[23-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
you can have authoritarian communists, but that kind of defeats the purpose of communism lol


[23-Jan-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
or rather, you can have authoritarians who call themselves communists


[23-Jan-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087786934624272384

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Andrew Wortman (@AmoneyResists)
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1087786934624272384
Here’s another copy of the video that still works:
https://t.co/SWlTK7jDBC
Retweets
1238
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[23-Jan-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
btw, one of those covington kids was recorded saying "it's not rape if you enjoy it"


[23-Jan-19 04:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's a lot of people there. sure it was one of the kids?


[23-Jan-19 04:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
also could've been a response to something someone else said


[23-Jan-19 04:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's like reading posts on 4chan. But people are actually saying it out loud in public.


[23-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
you can see the kid say it lol


[23-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
did you watch it?


[23-Jan-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
the camera's pointed right at him when he says it


[23-Jan-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
at 0:15


[23-Jan-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/politics/sen-warner-introduced-bill-to-end-future-government-shutdowns/291-6398cc5d-b67a-4263-a48a-a530fe76fda6

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Sen. Warner introduced bill to end future government shutdowns
Senator Warner's Stop STUPIDITY (Shutdowns Transferring Unnecessary Pain and Inflicting Damage In The Coming Years) Act would fund the government except for the legislative branch and the Executive Office of the President
https://media.13newsnow.com/assets/WVEC/images/59d6d5dd-ad53-47ac-9057-99682213d405/59d6d5dd-ad53-47ac-9057-99682213d405_1140x641.jpg


[23-Jan-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
you linked that like an hour ago lol


[23-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/426498-buzzfeed-obtains-files-that-reportedly-contradict-giuliani-claims

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/426498-buzzfeed-obtains-files-that-reportedly-contradict-giuliani-claims
Documents indicate detailed plans for Trump Tower Moscow: report
BuzzFeed News has obtained files that the news outlet says contradict President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani's recent claims that there were "no plans" drawn up for Trump Tower Moscow.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giulianirudy_05302018getty.jpg


[23-Jan-19 06:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this confirmed?


[23-Jan-19 06:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can never tell with buzzfeed


[23-Jan-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They have the docs so


[23-Jan-19 06:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX1v3IhYRk

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX1v3IhYRk
#CovingtonGate: We Are Entering The Real CIVIL WAR 2.0
#CovingtonGate is the most extreme culture war battle we have ever seen. Never before have so many far leftists, celebrities, news outlets, joined in a campa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_YX1v3IhYRk/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 06:23 AM] ononim#8141
>calls out a bunch of priveleged prvaye catholic school twats on being a bunch of racist assholes


[23-Jan-19 06:23 AM] ononim#8141
>"wtf this is civil war 2.0"


[23-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did you watch the vid?


[23-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
tim pool explains why he says that in the early part of the vid


[23-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
when does he get to the point, 13 minutes is a longer than 29 seconds


[23-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
about 27 times longer


[23-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
oh oops, it was 15 minutes


[23-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
31 times longer


[23-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you must've missed it. he explains his feelings about it may be a civil war of some form in the first five mins


[23-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
we aren't even close to a civil war


[23-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
in weimar republic germany, the communists and nazis were openly attacking each other in the streets


[23-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
angry words is nothing compared to injury and death


[23-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
true.


[23-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but death threats to teens is still alarming


[23-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
death threats are a retarded internet culture thing, probably one of the few things I heavily dislike about social media


[23-Jan-19 06:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I agree. but a angry internet mob is still a angry mob


[23-Jan-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
not really, there's a difference between talking shit halfway across the world and doing it face to face


[23-Jan-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zUc-mpMGrs

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Marcus V. Jacob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zUc-mpMGrs
Dogs don't really want to fight.
We're all tough... until the gate is open.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6zUc-mpMGrs/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
original is better


[23-Jan-19 06:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
A angry mob even a world away can still make someone's life misarble with the internet. doxing, hacking, harassment, etc etc.


[23-Jan-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
that's mostly because society hasn't caught up with internet culture yet


[23-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you think the reason why no violence broke out at the lincoln memorial is because the world is a much more peaceful place than back in the 30's during the weimar republic, or because we aren't at the point of communists and nazis openly attacking each other in the streets?


[23-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think the answer is both myself.


[23-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
First off, Weimar was very special circumstances


[23-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second, people just attakking each other in the streets isn't how life works


[23-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but yes, people are less violent.


[23-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
except, you know, driving into people


[23-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That isn't an exception.


[23-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
may as well throw in using bikelocks as well crow if you are trying to imply exceptions.


[23-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
wat, bikelocks?


[23-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Bikelock antifa guy


[23-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Smashed some people's faces with a bikelock


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
I think I missed that one


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
4chan hunted him down, etc. As it goes


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08/eric-clanton-takes-3-year-probation-deal-in-berkeley-rally-bike-lock-assault-case

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Emilie Raguso
https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08/eric-clanton-takes-3-year-probation-deal-in-berkeley-rally-bike-lock-assault-case
Eric Clanton takes 3-year probation deal in Berkeley rally bike lo...
A college professor charged with four counts of felony assault with a deadly weapon has taken a deal resulting in three years of probation, court records reveal.
https://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/DSC8229-e1533761347364.jpg


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
>college professor


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
christ what an idiot


[23-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
bashed a guy on the head with a bike lock despite the person being on his knees with his hands up


[23-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Either way, I think the point here should be that no form of assault should be acceptable, car or bikelock


[23-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I agree


[23-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
I say that, but if someone says "come punch Nazis with me" I can't help but follow a crowd


[23-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
It's less about personal descision and more the way a "hivemind" of sorts effects people


[23-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
At least in my opinion


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm sorry but i'm not going to take part in mob violence even if i was invited to it.


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
that's something you can say as an individual at home, not as a small part of a much larger group in the heat of the moment


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
causes chances are even if I did. i'd be the one that would get the black eye. lol


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
a person is smart


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
It's noble to say that, yeah, until suddenly your peace rally is a brawl :(


[23-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
people are stupid


[23-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Exactly


[23-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
tbh nazis are one of the hardest to not punch groups in existence, considering how the degradation of equality is built into its ideology


[23-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's a great qoute from mib


[23-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
crow


[23-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Strong agree, Crow


[23-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
They just have punchable faces


[23-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Ideologies attached to faces?


[23-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Who knows


[23-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
A lot of them seem to let it consume most other parts of themselves.


[23-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
The flip side of that is that people like to say the LGBT community does the same thing


[23-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
...but who needs more representation / normalisation, Nazis or the LGBT Community??


[23-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, nazis require violence to get their point across a lot of the time


[23-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
LGBT, not at all


[23-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-strike-summary-01232019-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-strike-summary-01232019-story.html
In teachers’ strike settlement, public support for education was...
Not to rain on the parade, but I do have a question: Why the heck did it take 20 months and a six-day strike to negotiate this contract?
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[23-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/four-arrested-charged-terrorist-plot-muslim-community-islamberg-new-york.html

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Four Young Men Arrested and Charged in Apparent Terrorist Plot Aga...
Police found stockpiled firearms and three homemade bombs as part of the alleged plot against the community known as Islamberg.
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[23-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
"Police announced charges Tuesday against three suspects from suburban Rochester, ranging 18-to-20 years old, along with a 16-year-old minor high school student, who, over the course of about a month, stockpiled 23 firearms and three homemade bombs filled with black powder and nails to carry out the planned attack. The young men communicated on a chat app, Discord, that is popular among the far-right, according to police."


[23-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
>That is popular among the far right, according to police


[23-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
Lmao


[23-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I'm 90% sure tons more leftist groups use discord than far-right groups


[23-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/22/state-department-wess-mitchell-resigns-1118182

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State Department's top diplomat for European affairs resigns
Wess Mitchell's portfolio includes Russia, a sensitive issue given ongoing investigations into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow in 2016.
https://static.politico.com/ee/78/bf3308cf43c9a0d845c0c078837b/190122-wess-mitchell-gty-773.jpg


[23-Jan-19 08:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://i.imgur.com/67Brx95.png

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[23-Jan-19 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Don't call the cops to take back your factory or they'll be diggy-diggy-dead." -Karl Marx, maybe


[23-Jan-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[23-Jan-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/department-of-labor-accuses-oracle-of-discrimination.html

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Department of Labor accuses Oracle of discrimination that cost wom...
In a new federal filing Tuesday, the Department of Labor claimed Oracle's alleged discriminatory practices cost women and minorities an estimated $400 million.
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[23-Jan-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/22/trump-rudy-giuliani-relationship-1120008

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Trump exasperated by gaffe-prone Giuliani
After the president's freewheeling lawyer cleans up yet another set of public comments, the West Wing's patience is wearing thin.
https://static.politico.com/9f/c4/011f7dfd440dbb29594328485c77/190122-rudy-trump-gty-773.jpg


[23-Jan-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/22/us-cancels-trade-planning-meeting-with-china-source-says.html

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US cancels trade planning meeting with China, source says
The White House rejected a trade meeting with Chinese counterparts due to disagreement over the enforcement of intellectual property rules.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/04/05/105113003-GettyImages-905930816rr.1910x1000.jpg


[23-Jan-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
stock markets are going back down lol


[23-Jan-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
god, trump looks like such a baby in that image


[23-Jan-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
it'll be funny watching them yo-yo as trump keeps putting the meeting back on and off in response to watching fox news


[23-Jan-19 12:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
department of labor vs oracle of discrimination


[23-Jan-19 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every face trump makes looks like a baby face with wrinkles


[23-Jan-19 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1087772979730239490

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John McAfee (@officialmcafee)
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1087772979730239490
The McAfee 2020 Campaign is, as of this day, in exile. I am being charged with using Crypto Cuttencies in  criminal acts against the U. S. Government. More videos coming shortly. Stay tuned. https://t.co/C75zcbnKTD
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[23-Jan-19 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
this guy seems to take himself a little too seriously tbh


[23-Jan-19 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
so uh, what party does he plan to run under, or is he planning on being third party


[23-Jan-19 03:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
His ego makes me think he will run as a blue.


[23-Jan-19 04:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he ran as third party last election


[23-Jan-19 04:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he'll  probably do so again


[23-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ywgxbGEZ8

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LGR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ywgxbGEZ8
LGR Tech Tales - McAfee's Wild Ride
This episode covers the door-to-door beginnings and unbelievable controversies surrounding John McAfee and his Virus Scan software. Join me in LGR Tech Tales...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X9ywgxbGEZ8/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-19 04:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if you want to know who he is watch this vid


[23-Jan-19 04:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he invented some of the first anti-virus software


[23-Jan-19 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/207803318133719040/537668567840325633/0il4iu74nyb21.jpg

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[23-Jan-19 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318129883421081600/537673436109996032/image0.jpg

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[23-Jan-19 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This makes me thonk


[23-Jan-19 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, the result of referendum only went sour because of a hardliner coup attempt on august 1991


[23-Jan-19 06:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yep.
Kind of sad considering following ages of anarchy and degeneracy.


[23-Jan-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.dw.com/en/venezuelan-opposition-leader-juan-guaido-declares-himself-acting-president-us-recognizes-the-move/a-47201512

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Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido declares himself acting p...
Opposition leader Juan Guaido has declared himself acting president after urging supporters to take to the streets in an effort to oust President Nicolas Maduro. The US swiftly signaled its support for the move.
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[23-Jan-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dis gon b not good


[23-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

They found some oil there?


[23-Jan-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yes, duh


[23-Jan-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Venezuela has one of the world's most important oil shales


[23-Jan-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[23-Jan-19 08:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kek


[23-Jan-19 08:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Rip Nicolas Maduro


[23-Jan-19 08:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I hope US won't degrade the country into a banana republic as usual


[23-Jan-19 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Magical

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[23-Jan-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
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[23-Jan-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/michael-cohen-says-trump-s-threats-against-his-family-will-n961816

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Michael Cohen says Trump's 'threats against his family' will delay...
"This is a time where Mr. Cohen had to put his family and their safety first," Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, said.
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[23-Jan-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Successful witness intimidation is successful.


[23-Jan-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Criminal threat, too


[23-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
A normal person would be under arrest right now


[23-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he's the president, so he can break the law and nothing will be done.


[23-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
5D chess for Mueller


[23-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans at this point are going to fascism thru inaction.


[23-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In what world is threatening someone's family if they go forward with a confession not a crime


[23-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the core of fascism is


[23-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
to use the rules as a weapon against one's enemies


[23-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
while not having them apply to oneself


[23-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
as a way to choose who is and is not acceptable in gov't.


[23-Jan-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://knowherenews.com/event/7eef1ff0-d41c-49ca-9955-6b22335487bf


[23-Jan-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump stops White House daily press briefings
President Donald Trump has called a halt to White House press briefings, tweeting Tuesday he told Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, "not to bother" because reporters are rude and inaccurate.


[23-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just subpoena Cohen?


[23-Jan-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guys, you won't believe the fiasco Brazil is going through now involving the Davos conference


[23-Jan-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[23-Jan-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro and his ministers were supposed to show up for a press conference, but did not


[23-Jan-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pretty much nobody expected this


[23-Jan-19 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is said that Bolsonaro fled the conference because he was afraid that the journalists would question him about his son Flávio Bolsonaro, who is currently being investigated for corruption


[23-Jan-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basiocaly, he pulled a trump


[23-Jan-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why did he even go in the first place outside of selling brazillian resources to outside buyers?


[23-Jan-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Investigation of son leads to indictment of president which leads to coup.


[23-Jan-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Come one let's go


[23-Jan-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Help me, Robert S. Mueller. You're my only hope


[23-Jan-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was 5D chess Davis did


[23-Jan-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>President witness intimidates your  client


[23-Jan-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Client says he's too afraid, so doesn't do it


[23-Jan-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>worst case scenario, something to add on top, best case he gets subpoenaed


[23-Jan-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well trump basically gave mueller something mroe to offer cohen, possible protection of his family in return for testimony


[23-Jan-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in trumps efforts to distance himself from cohen he basically just told cohen to work entirely with mueller


[23-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump threatened Cohen


[23-Jan-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and his family


[23-Jan-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's dictator behavior


[23-Jan-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[23-Jan-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Got what he wanted too.


[23-Jan-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for now


[23-Jan-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/michael-cohen-buddy-donny-deutsch-saw-obstruction-justice-real-time/

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Michael Cohen buddy Donny Deutsch ‘saw the obstruction of justic...
One of Michael Cohen’s close friends says he had a front-row seat to see President Donald Trump commit obstruction — and may even be interviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller as a fact witness. Donny Deutsch joined MSNBC’s “Deadline: White House” with Nicolle Wa...
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[24-Jan-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I’m not doing it, I’m not testifying. My wife is sitting here crying. They’re calling out my poor father-in-law, 80-something, a man who’s never done anything."- Cohen


[24-Jan-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/politics/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi/index.html

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Donald Trump dared Nancy Pelosi to cancel his State of the Union s...
President Donald Trump will NOT be giving his State of the Union speech on the House floor next Tuesday.
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[24-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bunch of people immediately jumped in to offer a space


[24-Jan-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the sotup?


[24-Jan-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
yes


[24-Jan-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but will he take those offers given the place he wants is being denied to him?


[24-Jan-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably


[24-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/58xCJRb

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The man has so much hatred for so many.......you have to wonder why .....
https://i.imgur.com/C46P6cQh.jpg


[24-Jan-19 01:22 AM] moonatik#3676
I'm unsure of what to make of what is happening in venezuela


[24-Jan-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's called a rebellion


[24-Jan-19 01:23 AM] moonatik#3676
I don't like maduro one bit, i don't know enough about the disputed new president to make a solid judgement


[24-Jan-19 01:23 AM] moonatik#3676
and I'm worried about what actions the US will take


[24-Jan-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
people are tired of swimming in shit when not even 10 years they were swimming in gold


[24-Jan-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm pretty sure this is already US action. The hatchet is coming down.


[24-Jan-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that it's the opposite of what the US has done in the past


[24-Jan-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
US has spent the last 6 decades rooting out democratically elected leftists in favor of dictators


[24-Jan-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
not sure what the new guy's politics are, but he US is rooting out a dictator for a democratically elected leader


[24-Jan-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maduro still had to go through election to retain his inherited vice-presidency. I wouldn't necessarily call him an unelected dictatorship since it could have ended in the 2013 election.


[24-Jan-19 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder: https://youtu.be/RVsB07CcSNw

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Confessions of an economic hitman
I'm uploading this in connection with the financial crisis in Greece and Europe. Many North Europeans think Greece and Europe is in crisis because the Greeks...
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[24-Jan-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, the second election that he just held I mean


[24-Jan-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
back in may


[24-Jan-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
if you have a turnout of less than 30% and somehow get like 80% of the vote, there's very likely something wrong


[24-Jan-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
he wasn't considered a dictator back in 2013


[24-Jan-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
because he hadn't done things to consolidate his power (like stacking the courts with yes-man judges that unanimously voted to throw out the current, democratically elected legislature in favor of a second, new legislature filled with more yes-men)


[24-Jan-19 01:38 AM] moonatik#3676
generally I'm opposed to dictators (WOW SUCH A BOLD STANCE), be they left or right


[24-Jan-19 01:39 AM] moonatik#3676
I am aware that the situation is overblown to a degree by western media, and many of the facts/contexts of the situation are omitted


[24-Jan-19 01:41 AM] moonatik#3676
but nonetheless, if a dictator is being peacefully replaced with a democratic leader at the behest of the people, I won't complain


[24-Jan-19 01:42 AM] moonatik#3676
my only hope is that i don't wake up tomorrow morning and find out there's a civil war, a US intervention, or a straight up coup with a "temporary" military leader in venezuela


[24-Jan-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.businessinsider.de/microsoft-web-browser-fake-news-how-it-works-2019-1

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Microsoft's web browser now warns users about untrustworthy news. ...
Microsoft's Edge browser, the replacement for Internet Explorer, is getting equipped with a tool from NewsGuard that warns about dubious news sites.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c4888092bdd7f56fb747f75-2732-1366.jpg


[24-Jan-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
I like this site https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

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We are the most comprehensive media bias resource on the internet. Don’t be fooled by Fake News sources. Search Media Bias. View Fact Checks. Breaking News.
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[24-Jan-19 01:59 AM] moonatik#3676
inb4 this fairly obvious and transparent attempt at countering bias is interpreted as bias


[24-Jan-19 02:00 AM] moonatik#3676
does this site have a list of outlets along with their biases?


[24-Jan-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't counter to bias to warn people they're reading bias


[24-Jan-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who believe only their source is correct will take it to reinforce their views that others are out to get their views.


[24-Jan-19 02:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Facebook started hiring a bunch of 3rd party fact checkers. Won't stop your granny posting about the Muslims trying to ban things.


[24-Jan-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covington-catholic-black-paint/

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FACT CHECK: Is This Picture from a Covington Catholic High School ...
Covington Catholic’s students have a history of donning black body paint during their “black out” basketball games.
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[24-Jan-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
>True


[24-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Arvid#8335
Now that's pretty fucked up now ain't it


[24-Jan-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/opinion/covington-catholic-march-for-life.html

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By ROSS DOUTHAT
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/opinion/covington-catholic-march-for-life.html
Opinion | The Covington Scissor
Welcome to another controversy algorithmically designed to tear America apart.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/22/opinion/22douthatWeb/22douthatWeb-facebookJumbo.jpg


[24-Jan-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
I love this article


[24-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/TDJNDN_201901223792/silicon-valleys-optimism-turns-into-shame-of-being-suckered.html


[24-Jan-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, unrestrained neoliberalism in silicon valley is coming to an end


[24-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno about that


[24-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
neoliberalism is about what laws you hav in place


[24-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
not optimism in business


[24-Jan-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
question from irc


[24-Jan-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
09:12:34     <@byte[]>    Is mandatory drug testing but only for entry level also one of these neoliberalisms


[24-Jan-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
I mean that the whole "everyone makes and loses hundreds of millions of dollars at the drop of a hat and nobody cares" thing is coming to an end


[24-Jan-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it already was coming to an end


[24-Jan-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a billionaires' game now


[24-Jan-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
like it always was before


[24-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
also, I think they can choose who to drug test, even in entry level positions


[24-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
they're arbitrarily mandatory


[24-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
positions that require the operation of heavy machinery are likely required by law to have drug testing


[24-Jan-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
to avoid liability if one of their workers does show up high/drunk/whatever and ends up destroying a lot of property or killing people


[24-Jan-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
drug testing for jobs involving heavy machinery makes sense, but you'll see a lot of jobs where it's mandatory anyway and there is no heavy machinery


[24-Jan-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1088248922252984321

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U.S. to defy Venezuelan order for American diplomats to leave Caracas in 72 hours https://t.co/w0HH6OcV6v
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[24-Jan-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-union-dues-lawsuit-20190123-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-union-dues-lawsuit-20190123-story.html
L.A. teacher sues union, saying dues were illegally taken out of h...
A Los Angeles Unified teacher has filed a federal class-action lawsuit against United Teachers Los Angeles, saying the group continued to force her to pay dues even after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the practice last year.
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[24-Jan-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/426717-trump-i-will-do-state-of-the-union-when-the-shutdown-is-over

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Trump: I will deliver State of the Union 'when the shutdown is over'
President Trump said late Wednesday that he would deliver his State of the Union address after the ongoing partial government shutdown is over.
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[24-Jan-19 01:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[24-Jan-19 04:06 PM] moonatik#3676
oh no https://www.rt.com/news/449555-pompeo-us-diplomats-venezuela/

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US refuses to withdraw diplomats from Venezuela after Maduro break...
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has refused to pull diplomats from Caracas, arguing the government that severed diplomatic ties with the US is not legitimate and threatening ‘appropriate actions’ if anyone is endangered.
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[24-Jan-19 04:06 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-russia/russia-warns-u-s-against-military-intervention-in-venezuela-idUSKCN1PI0Q5?utm_source=reddit.com

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Kremlin accuses U.S. of trying to usurp power in Venezuela
Russia accused the United States of trying to usurp power in Venezuela and warne...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190124&t=2&i=1349281070&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0N0TN


[24-Jan-19 04:06 PM] moonatik#3676
there's gotta be a better place to start WW3 over, right?


[24-Jan-19 04:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nah


[24-Jan-19 04:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i mean look at where past world wars got started


[24-Jan-19 04:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this place would be just par the course


[24-Jan-19 04:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will be funny to see new president handing his ass over to US and still preaching about freedom.


[24-Jan-19 04:19 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.newsweek.com/what-tapes-rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-michael-cohen-russia-investigation-1299636

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"Wait, what tapes…?" Rudy Giuliani reveals he's heard taped evid...
The president's lawyer gave bizarre answers while discussing the recent BuzzFeed report alleging that the president directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
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[24-Jan-19 04:21 PM] Mikey#7286
```"I guess the BuzzFeed story—I don’t remember what it said about Cohen—but it said there was corroboration that the president talked to Cohen and told him to lie about, I guess it was, the Moscow proposal,” Giuliani said. “There are no tapes, there are no texts, there is no corroboration that the president told him to lie.

“I can tell you, from the moment I read the story, I knew the story was false. Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the emails, and I knew none existed,” he added```


[24-Jan-19 04:21 PM] Mikey#7286
```"Wait, what tapes have you gone through?" Giuliani replied: “I shouldn’t have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and emails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the president told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the president never told him to lie.”```


[24-Jan-19 04:21 PM] Mikey#7286
```The lawyer then clarified that there are no tapes before immediately adding, “Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this.”```


[24-Jan-19 04:22 PM] Mikey#7286
"Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this.”


[24-Jan-19 04:22 PM] Mikey#7286
?????


[24-Jan-19 04:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.facebook.com/114788469246743/posts/328847504507504/

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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer
Trump’s ABCs.  Sing-along!
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[24-Jan-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/HfZLcKzyP28

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penguinz0
https://youtu.be/HfZLcKzyP28
Biggest Arrest of 2019
This is the greatest jaywalking of All Time
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[24-Jan-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Jan-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclearpower-safety/republicans-at-u-s-nuclear-regulator-pass-stripped-down-safety-rule-idUSKCN1PI2NO

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Republicans at U.S. nuclear regulator pass stripped down safety rule
Republicans on the U.S. nuclear power regulator approved a stripped down safety ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190124&t=2&i=1349420979&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0N1YU


[24-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Honahue#0656
America is a third world country


[24-Jan-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... we kidna are


[24-Jan-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if we drop nato


[24-Jan-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nato is the thing that makes us a first wprld country


[24-Jan-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we arent in nato we are unaligned and thus third world


[25-Jan-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/TheAPJournalist/status/1088565407814946819

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https://twitter.com/TheAPJournalist/status/1088565407814946819
.@CNN EXCLUSIVE: White House preparing draft national emergency order and identified $7 billion for wall. https://t.co/YCxbmpVcaM
Twitter


[25-Jan-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[25-Jan-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which begs the question: why the fuck did he not do this back in 2017?


[25-Jan-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His party would have congressional and senate majority and he'd be able to pass through his stupid wall resolution without resorting to crazy schemes.


[25-Jan-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he didnt have to send democrats a message. also fox news didnt make the order


[25-Jan-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dumbest part is this shut down is on fox news because trump was entirely ready to sign the temporary spending bill till fox news called him a wuss


[25-Jan-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More like, it's on Trump, for being an egocentrical crybaby


[25-Jan-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s on fox news, trump, and mcconnell


[25-Jan-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/wilbur-ross-larry-kudlow-government-shutdown-food-banks.html

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Wilbur Ross Doesn’t Understand Why Struggling Furloughed Employe...
The commerce secretary is one of the wealthiest members of Trump’s Cabinet.
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[25-Jan-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
RICH BANKER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, THINKS FURLOUGHED EMPLOYEES SHOULD JUST GET LOANS


[25-Jan-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[25-Jan-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're having trouble paying rent, why dont they get loans from me so i can make it way harder down the line for them!


[25-Jan-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rich empire is falling to stupidity


[25-Jan-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and pocket stuffing greed


[25-Jan-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-admin-planning-even-longer-shutdown-n961961

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Trump admin planning for even longer shutdown
"Prudent management means planning and preparing for events without known end dates," an official told NBC News
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_04/2727581/190124-federal-workers-shutdown-protest-al-0922_83b0e8890abcaef1a7f3eeba7de67533.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-Jan-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[25-Jan-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/dems-agree-to-fund-wall-and-reopen-government-if-trump-leaves-country-forever

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Dems Agree to Fund Wall and Reopen Government If Trump Leaves Coun...
Calling the deal “a huge win for America,” Pelosi said that Trump would get the wall he wanted plus the opportunity to do something “incredibly patriotic” for his country.
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[25-Jan-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish this were true


[25-Jan-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
ah, borowitz


[25-Jan-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wilbur-ross-says-furloughed-workers-should-take-out-a-loan-his-agencys-own-credit-union-is-charging-nearly-9-percent/2019/01/24/be1c9f1e-2020-11e9-8b59-0a28f2191131_story.html


[25-Jan-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
"The Commerce Department’s federal credit union is charging furloughed employees almost 9 percent interest on emergency loans to cover their missing paychecks, despite Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross saying Thursday that financial institutions were offering “very, very low-interest-rate loans to bridge people over the gap.”"


[25-Jan-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we please pass the stop stupidity act?


[25-Jan-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if this shut down ends, a worse one will start at the end of 2019 when soemone else doesnt get their way on a spending bill


[25-Jan-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
mcconnell would never let it come to a vote


[25-Jan-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell can suck trumps dick


[25-Jan-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[25-Jan-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there should be a procedure to override a house speaker


[25-Jan-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
he does suck trump's dick


[25-Jan-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sucks mroe of trump than that


[25-Jan-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
he's the senate majority leader, not the speaker of the house


[25-Jan-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there should be a procedure to override a senate majority leader


[25-Jan-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Jan-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Auto resolve battle


[25-Jan-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Crushing defeat

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[25-Jan-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
R O O K I E    N U M B E R S

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[25-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
how is that a scoop lol


[25-Jan-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like a lil' dab'll do ya.


[25-Jan-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Warren, Ya-yeet'ing on Congress


[25-Jan-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Jan-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
MUTUAL AID


[25-Jan-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
MORE LIKE ILLEGAL AID


[25-Jan-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh fun, the politics thread is full on shitposting.


[25-Jan-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
well, that is the definition of fraud


[25-Jan-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kyle's in the spotlight, obvs


[25-Jan-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
plus I'm pretty sure it might actually be legally required for her to report child neglect and abandonment due to her job


[25-Jan-19 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
it'd be quite a legal case to say parents are neglecting their child if they can't provide medical insurance for them


[25-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, it's not just the healthcare part, the kid's house is apparently filthy and the superintendent was helping him clean the house and buy clothes for him


[25-Jan-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
I looked up a couple articles about the subject


[25-Jan-19 03:35 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's a bit different


[25-Jan-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
the kid still lives with his biological parents


[25-Jan-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/us/politics/senate-vote-fails-shutdown.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/us/politics/senate-vote-fails-shutdown.html
Collapse of Two Plans to End Shutdown Propels Urgent Negotiations
The Senate first blocked Mr. Trump’s proposal to add $5.7 billion for his border wall to legislation to resume funding for the government, then turned back a Democratic measure that omitted the wall.
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[25-Jan-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/pge-shares-spike-25percent-after-california-investigators-clear-utility-of-blame-for-2017-fire.html

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PG&E spikes 75% after California investigators absolve utility of ...
PG&E shares spiked 74 percent Thursday after California investigators cleared the beleaguered utility company of liability in a 2017 fire.
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[25-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it was determined to have been caused by some kind of private electrical equipment at a house


[25-Jan-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
of course, they can't determine exactly what sparked the fire since it was all burned down


[25-Jan-19 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ni🅱️🅱️a someone on the Derpibooru site politics thread unironically said Ben Shapiro should run for president in 2024 lmao


[25-Jan-19 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
reminder that Kamala Harris is a cop


[25-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/american-airlines-removes-family-flight-over-body-odor-complaints-n962321

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American Airlines removes family from flight over body odor complaints
The family accused the airline of singling them out because they're Jewish.
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[25-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
"American Airlines kicked a Michigan family off a plane in Florida on Wednesday night over what the airline said were complaints from other passengers about their body odor."


[25-Jan-19 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a start

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[25-Jan-19 08:45 AM] Mikey#7286
https://theweek.com/speedreads/819045/trump-reportedly-walked-policy-meeting-watch-tv

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Trump reportedly walked out of a policy meeting to watch TV
President Trump's TV time may be a bigger problem than we thought.
The president is obviously attached to his favorite Fox News programs, tweeting responses to and explicitly mentioning what show he's watching throughout his presidency. But as former White House communication...
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[25-Jan-19 08:45 AM] Mikey#7286
HAHAHAHAHAH


[25-Jan-19 08:45 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump literally has the attention span of a kid


[25-Jan-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/redmond-police-arrest-man-on-skateboard-after-jaywalking-failing-to-stop/

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Redmond police arrest man on skateboard after jaywalking, ‘faili...
Online video has Redmond police under scrutiny.
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[25-Jan-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
jaywalking is not an arrestable offense in washington state


[25-Jan-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
they claim he was "obstructing" by not stopping for the policewoman behind him, but witnesses say she didn't tell him to stop


[25-Jan-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/426843-florida-secretary-of-state-resigns-after-newspaper-obtains-photos-of-him

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Florida secretary of state resigns after newspaper obtains photos ...
Newly minted Florida Secretary of State Michael Ertel resigned from his post on Thursday after a newspaper obtained photos of him posing as a "Hurricane Katrina victim" in blackface.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ertelmike.jpg


[25-Jan-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[25-Jan-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
"Newly minted Florida Secretary of State Michael Ertel resigned from his post on Thursday after a newspaper obtained photos of him posing as a "Hurricane Katrina victim" in blackface."


[25-Jan-19 11:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/426741-ross-i-dont-quite-understand-why-federal-workers-need-food-banks-during

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Ross: 'I don't quite understand' why federal workers need food ban...
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Thursday that he was confused why thousands of federal workers, who've already missed one paycheck, are relying on food banks during the partial government shutdown.
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[25-Jan-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, is this the "let them eat cake" moment for the US?


[25-Jan-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently the koch brothers have announced they will not back trump


[25-Jan-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
trump's pretty much doomed at this point


[25-Jan-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
he backed himself into a corner


[25-Jan-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
and despite how shitty the big money is, it's not stupid money


[25-Jan-19 12:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow I dunno. I don't have the advantage of looking back from the future and telling you in the present. I'm not Billy Pilgrim.


[25-Jan-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
I was joking lol, she didn't say "let them eat cake", and no one in the US will give a shit unless things get way worse


[25-Jan-19 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the poeple of north carolina wont if my hvac class is anything to go by


[25-Jan-19 12:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Truckers nation wide are going to strike April 14th I think. I think it was April. Keep an eye out for #BlackSmokeMatters


[25-Jan-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also re-considering my career options if hvac folk only talk about politics all the time in a conspiracy theory fashion


[25-Jan-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that superman was an illegal alien in the US


[25-Jan-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
:nerdtwi:


[25-Jan-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true


[25-Jan-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wonder woman atleast came int hrough diplomatic means


[25-Jan-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if she has diplomatic immunity


[25-Jan-19 12:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
She has Titties


[25-Jan-19 12:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiblush:


[25-Jan-19 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
diplomatic immuntitties


[25-Jan-19 01:21 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/25/politics/roger-stone-arrested/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&rm=1

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Roger Stone indicted on charges brought by special counsel
Roger Stone has been indicted by a grand jury on charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller, who alleges that the longtime Donald Trump associate sought stolen emails from WikiLeaks that could damage Trump's opponents at the direction of "a senior Trump Campaign official."
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[25-Jan-19 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
wasn't roger stone originally involved with nixon during watergate?


[25-Jan-19 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm noticing a lot of that with this investigation


[25-Jan-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump or someone else brining in "experts" from previous scandals to aid them in their dealings because in no way will that backfire at all


[25-Jan-19 01:47 PM] byte[]#2610

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[25-Jan-19 01:47 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[25-Jan-19 01:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Jan-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gyab5m/its-now-clear-none-of-the-supposed-benefits-of-killing-net-neutrality-are-real

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It's Now Clear None of the Supposed Benefits of Killing Net Neutra...
Network investment is down, layoffs abound, and networks are falling apart. This isn’t the glorious future Ajit Pai promised.
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[25-Jan-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whoda thunk it


[25-Jan-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Jan-19 06:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/skolanach/status/1088486734608838656

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Fixed it: Wilbur Ross dubbed over Mr. Burns https://t.co/UQn8Hq6WrR
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[25-Jan-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is rediculously fitting


[25-Jan-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nickconfalone/status/1088851056560287744?s=20

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"fibbed" (!)
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[25-Jan-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1088864668834299904

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CNN: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

BBC: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

ABC: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

NBC: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

MTV: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

CBS: Roger Stone Arrested By FBI!

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[25-Jan-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[25-Jan-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[25-Jan-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god not the gypsies! anything but the gypsies!!


[25-Jan-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
He fibbed


[25-Jan-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah fox news' sole purpose is keeping the trump toddler passive and happoy now


[25-Jan-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Federal-workers-react-to-Trump-s-grocery-13560126.php

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Federal workers react to Trump's grocery remarks: 'That's not how ...
Thanks for the advice Mr. President, said his furloughed workforce, but here on planet Earth they make you pay for your groceries. That was the reaction from a handful of unpaid federal workers to President Trump’s suggestion at a Thursday news conference that grocers are r...
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[25-Jan-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T JUST PROMISE TO PAY THE GROCERY STORE LATER? ALWAYS WORKS WITH SAUDI BUSINESSMEN


[25-Jan-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why dont you just "make a deal" with the grocery store *wink wink glance at baseball bat wink*


[25-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Roger Stone was involved with Nixon


[25-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy's whole thing is dirty political tactics


[25-Jan-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
he just hadn't been caught outright breaking the law yet.


[25-Jan-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no wait this is trump *wink wink glance at golf club wink*


[25-Jan-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Involved with" is underselling it


[25-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1088836565630111744

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hard to believe the guy with a Nixon tattoo on his back turned out to be a crook
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[25-Jan-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, this is real.


[25-Jan-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[25-Jan-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being a Nixonaboo


[25-Jan-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well to be fair, nixon doesnt have to dealwith trump's stupidity


[25-Jan-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sooo i cna kinda see why people woudl want to be dead liek him


[25-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, Trump's bullshitting on TV


[25-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's talking as if the bill is already a sure deal


[25-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to blame Democrats by saying bla bla bla bipartisanship means building the wall!


[25-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
SMART WALLS


[25-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, he's just going on and on trying to sell the wall.


[25-Jan-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2019/01/25/congressional-leaders-trump-reach-tentative-deal-to-temporarily-reopen-government-without-wall-funds-officials-say/

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Congressional leaders, Trump reach deal to reopen government for 3...
The pact would reopen shuttered government departments for the three weeks while leaving the issue of $5.7 billion for the U.S.-Mexico border wall to further talks.
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[25-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's not getting his wall.


[25-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
What a joke


[25-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's now saying that women are the victims of human traffikking...and that his wall will somehow reduce that


[25-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
yeah sure, a big barrier will reduce people needing specialized shady services to get across big barriers


[25-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
SURE


[25-Jan-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The tape around their mouths will be on your hands, Trump.


[25-Jan-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know what actually stops the profits of traffikking? LETTING PEOPLE IN EASILY.


[25-Jan-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He just listed a fukking prescription opioid among those smuggled across the border


[25-Jan-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's now basically saying that we can't afford to process asylum-seekers because the laws are medieval, and that we're the strongest economy in the world, and that if Democrats don't make the laws more modern/barbaric, he'll release criminal immigrants into society to punish people.


[25-Jan-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now he's threatening to build the wall himself with emergency powers on February 15th if it's not funded.


[25-Jan-19 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
I can't wait for the thousands of fucking court cases


[25-Jan-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss comic where the guy is sealing the gates of Hell and the other guy says "but we should still let some in legally"


[25-Jan-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also gee, conservatives only caring about women when they can use them to crucify minorities


[25-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How rare


[25-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(The inverse happens sometimes too)


[25-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
WOMEN ARE HURT BY SOMETHING WE CAUSED, WE CAN RECTIFY IT BY DOUBLING DOWN, GUYS! SEE, WE CARE!


[25-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brock Turner and Brett Kavanaugh.


[25-Jan-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do you only believe women when a brown person does it?


[25-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was just a good little white boy, Its


[25-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(rhetorical question)


[25-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good little white boys don't try t' do colored things.


[25-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>make fun of blacks for saying "didnt do nothing"


[25-Jan-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>insist that whites didn't do nothing


[25-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If people insist that the "race card" doesn't work and there's no power in an accusation, why do they get so offended by it?


[25-Jan-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
CBS news btw *tore into* Trump's deal


[25-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause it's the same one Dems offered 4 weeks ago


[25-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
just with a threat of emergency powers attached.


[25-Jan-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the only thing that changed in those 4 weeks is Trump made people suffer and possibly die


[25-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keeping people hostage


[25-Jan-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why doesn't he just pay for it with _his_ money?


[25-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a billionaire.


[25-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also supposedly he asked NASA in 2017 if they could do a manned Mars landing by 2020


[25-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd take all his money


[25-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
literally all of it.


[25-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
To do the wall.


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you want it or not?


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
No amount of money would get humans on Mars.


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what he offered, a blank check


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and it wouldn't work.


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was asking NASA how much money it would take to get humans to Mars by 2020


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't even happen in a second term


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
They told him "infinity"


[25-Jan-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
In math terms.


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you can shove all the money you want into things, some things just take time.


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't currently hav the capability to land humans on Mars


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
we likely won't for another ten years at the most optimistic.


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine how Jerry rigged it would have to be to even attwmpt


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like just mash together a bunch of Soyuz and Atlas stuff


[25-Jan-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd die before it got to Mars, Its


[25-Jan-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[25-Jan-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't clarify _living_ humans


[25-Jan-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could hav the launch system today


[25-Jan-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
they'd still die


[25-Jan-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
particles of iron slamming into your gut at .9c is bad.


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the launch system is a huge problem too


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just takes a lot of damn fuel and thrust


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saturn V was our most powerful rokket that successfully flew


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it had a liftoff TWR of 1.15


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, it could BARELY get off the ground.


[25-Jan-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You would need much, much better engines to get something larger off the ground.


[25-Jan-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
ugh, inappropriate transparency https://i.imgur.com/AAGJvD1.png

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[25-Jan-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, Earth to Moon and bakk: 9400 + 3260 +680 + 1730 + 1730 +680 + 3260 = 19240


[25-Jan-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if you just do a ton of launches


[25-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mars and bakk: 9400 + 3210 + 1060 + 3800 + 1440 + 1060 = 17970, actually a little cheaper, but this is assuming aerobraking both ends


[25-Jan-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically trump is opening ther government for 3 weeks just so he cane close it again 3 weeks later?


[25-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Aerbraking is much harder interplanetory


[25-Jan-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Intexda, so he can blame Dems


[25-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking it doesn't work like that


[25-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need something that can defeat Mars gravity on the return trip


[25-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
That something needs to be able to land on Mars by aerobraking (HARD)


[25-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And before that, pushed to Mars from LEO


[25-Jan-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You also need to keep it all together


[25-Jan-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means you need to welding in space


[25-Jan-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So while you reduce the thrust needed per launch from Earth


[25-Jan-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
you greatly increase complexity


[25-Jan-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav to do like ten launches, and all would need to go off without a hitch


[25-Jan-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Its


[25-Jan-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine the ISS is about equivalent to what you'd need to go to Mars and bakk


[25-Jan-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
imagine building the ISS from nothing as the first step of your Mars mission.


[25-Jan-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sound plausible to do in 3 years, @Itsthinking?


[25-Jan-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real fun comes in with considering staging


[25-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your Earth splashdown craft needs to be able to aerobrake, so no engine at the bottom probably. So it needs to ditch its engine that it used to ascend from Mars. Most likely, you actually use 2 engines, 1 to ascend from Mars, then ditch it for 1 to intercept Earth.


[25-Jan-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's 3 stages so far just for returning


[25-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You also need aerodynamics to descend on Mars, likely with engine use at the end. If the ascent engine does this, you hav to make sure it can be relit.


[25-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
For the record, the Lunar Module's ascent engine could not be relit, period.


[25-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fuel it used destroyed the ignition system on activation.


[25-Jan-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you couldn't use it if the descent engine was insufficient.


[25-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, we're up to 4 stages for something sane...but then also you need a stage to get it from LEO to Mars intercept, and then from Earth to LEO


[25-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
But more likely, you'd want an extra intermediate stage from Earth to LEO because it's so fukking heavy, like what the Saturn V did


[25-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
7 stages.


[25-Jan-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
7 stages, with two of them needing to be able to survive extreme heating.


[25-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, SpaceX's plan is different


[25-Jan-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
they make a big dumb booster that can survive extrem heating and cover everything from LEO to Earth return, with mining fuel on Mars


[25-Jan-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dn6ZVpJLxs

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[25-Jan-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fuck space, build trains


[25-Jan-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
fggts


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
/traingang/


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm for both


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Space trains


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Honahue#0656
There is actually a kinda space train concept


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX's plan is more sane by less stages, but...


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it requires unproven tech


[25-Jan-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
that may not be ready until 2025 at the earliest.


[25-Jan-19 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Honahue#0656
You put something that orbits the two places you want to go and just redevoux with it when it's near you


[25-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rendezvousing takes engine usage


[25-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and slowing down to orbit around Mars requires engine usage too


[25-Jan-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
same for Earth


[25-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
at that point, you need more delta V


[25-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
because in my assumptions of delta V needed, it was with direct to landing


[25-Jan-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
as in, hit atmosphere so hard you can just land as soon as you get to Mars, no capture burn.


[25-Jan-19 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
Exactly, put energy into a big thing orbiting between two locations then you take a smaller craft and hitch a ride with it and depart when you get there


[25-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Never slow down the big one just refuel and resupply


[25-Jan-19 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
I read about it awhile ago but I'm on a phone so it's hard to find right now


[25-Jan-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
We should make a Dyson sphere


[25-Jan-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Eventually but colonization of space is like building a cathedral it takes centuries


[25-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[25-Jan-19 09:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I think we'll get there eventually


[25-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP44EPBMb8A

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[25-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
a rigid dyson sphere is too susceptible to damage, it would have to be more of a dyson swarm


[25-Jan-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
tons of tiny little solar panels


[25-Jan-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
well, relatively small


[25-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not just too susceptible to damage for a solid sphere but gravity would only be at it's max a the equator the poles wouldn't be spinning relative to the star


[25-Jan-19 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
assuming you're still relying on spin gravity


[25-Jan-19 09:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Good old kurzgesagt


[25-Jan-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
something we could theoretically do today is send robots and factories to mercury and start converting it into solar panels to launch to the sun


[25-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
granted, it requires mass driver technology that we aren't quite at yet


[25-Jan-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
basically building a giant railgun on mercury to launch the satellites into orbit around the sun


[25-Jan-19 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Jan-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Press F to hope so


[25-Jan-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if god was real wouldn;t the doctors be his healing touch...?


[25-Jan-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this arguement never made sense to me


[25-Jan-19 10:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That doctor was a reptiloid installing a probe into his brain.


[25-Jan-19 10:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So he won't die after this.


[25-Jan-19 10:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[25-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to slow down your own craft, and that's sort of what Apollo did


[25-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
For a mothership in orbit


[25-Jan-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a good idea for the Moon cause no atmosphere


[25-Jan-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
but on Mars, capture burn is much more of your delta V and atmosphere can outright land you


[25-Jan-19 10:39 PM] moonatik#3676
>CNN ranks kamala harris as the best candidate democrats could run in 2020
>kamala harris's biggest donor is warnermedia group
>warnermedia owns CNN

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[25-Jan-19 10:40 PM] moonatik#3676
fuck off discord why'd you have to fuck up the order of the images


[25-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/world/americas/brazil-dam-burst-brumadinho.html

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A dam owned by the mining giant Vale S.A. ruptured in the town of Brumadinho, in southeastern Brazil, flooding homes and cars in sludge, and leaving scores missing, the authorities said.
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[25-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mmm, sure love that deregulation Bolsonaro plans


[25-Jan-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brazil has too many people.


[25-Jan-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-25/u-k-said-to-deny-maduro-s-bid-to-pull-1-2-billion-of-gold


[25-Jan-19 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
Daily reminder Kamala Harris is a cop


[25-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Federal prosecutor, not a cop


[25-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And she _was_ one.


[25-Jan-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also you know just a job


[25-Jan-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WRONG, Its


[25-Jan-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All cops are jackbooted thugs with tiny dicks that just want to legally bully and assault innocent people with impunity


[25-Jan-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EVERY SINGLE ONE


[25-Jan-19 11:27 PM] Mikey#7286
This tbh ^


[25-Jan-19 11:32 PM] Honahue#0656
studies have shown that authoritarian personalities are attracted or cultivated by police departments, there are good cops, for a while then they either leave or change


[25-Jan-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
what about military


[25-Jan-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh people mean she was a cop metaphorically


[25-Jan-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because she was Attorney General of CA and I was like "wtf"


[25-Jan-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with police forces right now is they don;t want people who can make judgement calls of right and wrong, they want people who will follow extreme orders without question and exact orders no matter the end goal. trigger happy thugs make the best kind of cops for this relationship


[25-Jan-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want change in the police force you need to change it;s leadership and screening proccess as well as training


[25-Jan-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is insanely harder to do in the current system and environment


[25-Jan-19 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/1eb7efcced210a962c62e626340b29f2/tumblr_plwd1lq7Fy1qjpq1oo1_1280.jpg

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[25-Jan-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, the french aren't hungry and their money isn't worth less that toilet paper, but ok


[25-Jan-19 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
We need a yellow vest movement in the US


[25-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine this would happen, https://www.businessinsider.de/amazon-asked-police-in-spain-to-intervene-warehouse-strike-2018-11

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[25-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Suddenly, Pinkertons


[25-Jan-19 11:55 PM] Honahue#0656
cops have an us vs them mentality and even though they aren't even the most dangerous job in america feel that their job is to come home alive every day. It would be nice if construction workers who have a higher workplace fatality rate shared that mentatlity


[25-Jan-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon The company that now owns the rights to the Pinkerton name is suing Rockstar


[26-Jan-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“You can’t rewrite history to profit"- their president


[26-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“When you read on Twitter that the best part of the game is to murder a bloody Pinkerton, it becomes a concern,”


[26-Jan-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one still knew you existed, and they're demanding money from RDR2 now


[26-Jan-19 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
150 years ago
"boy I sure hope that no one writes anything bad about me"
*smashes union protesters face in with a revolver*


[26-Jan-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dc77--BjFYQ

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The Simpsons - "Pistol Whip"
Hmmmm, Pistol Whip.....
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[26-Jan-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-set-announce-2020-presidential-run-234647684.html

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Bernie Sanders set to announce 2020 presidential run
Two sources with direct knowledge of his plans told Yahoo News that Sanders, the Vermont independent and self-described “democratic socialist,” plans to announce his presidential bid imminently.
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[26-Jan-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No surprise there


[26-Jan-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
unless there's some absurd shenanigans, there's no way he doesn't win the nomination


[26-Jan-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
like the DNC being bought out again


[26-Jan-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie vs MeToo bait, Millenial hating Biden


[26-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/skilled-federal-workers-face-a-critical-shutdown-choice-stay-or-quit/2019/01/24/a80beb16-200d-11e9-8b59-0a28f2191131_story.html


[26-Jan-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
apparently big companies are poaching skilled federal workers


[26-Jan-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not surprised at that


[26-Jan-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
"Matt Linton, 38, quit his job at NASA during the 16-day government shutdown in 2013, doubling his salary by taking a job at a private technology firm, where he is focused on thwarting hackers."


[26-Jan-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
“I am receiving résumés from current NASA employees who are realizing I made the right call in 2013,” he said. “They’re asking me: Can you get us in somewhere?”


[26-Jan-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that tends to happen when you dont pay your employees


[26-Jan-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
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Not getting paid definitely adds to the stress of my job.  End the shutdown.
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[26-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Mikey#7286
pls don't fuck him over again DNC


[26-Jan-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i swear to god


[26-Jan-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
man, how fucking fearmonger can you go


[26-Jan-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
apparently some conservative conspiracy theorist fucks spread around that immigrants are bringing a "never-before-seen in north america polio-like disease" up from south america


[26-Jan-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
it's enterovirus D68, it causes fucking cold-like symptoms and exacerbates asthma symptoms


[26-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's all over asia, europe, north and south america


[26-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
but fucks like michael savage and rush limbaugh are claiming that it's a """new""" disease that's going to fucking kill everyone


[26-Jan-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the CDC is investigating whether it causes muscle weakness or not, but haven't actually confirmed it yet


[26-Jan-19 03:57 AM] Litrojia#0612
I think age will come into play with Bernie this election. Same with Biden.


[26-Jan-19 04:00 AM] Litrojia#0612
Though if either of them make it to the general election, Trump isn't much younger so it'll hardly matter


[26-Jan-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
it likely won't


[26-Jan-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
it never has before


[26-Jan-19 06:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/twittermoments/status/1088762788711972864?s=21

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Trump associate Roger Stone has been arrested in Florida. https://t.co/dxvpQQ0BB0
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[26-Jan-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jan-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[26-Jan-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1088803789023465472

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Stone indicted. SHS says it has nothing to do with Trump and the president isn't hung up on the wall. It's Friday and there's a mouse in the White House . . . no seriously: @realDonaldTrump
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[26-Jan-19 01:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1088775356926967808?s=20

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If Trump really wanted to see Hillary locked up, he should’ve just hired her to work on his campaign.
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[26-Jan-19 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jan-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-25/roger-stone-draws-the-judge-who-threw-paul-manafort-in-jail


[26-Jan-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/5FiW4vVh3xo

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EXTINCTION
{ 𝔼𝕏𝕋𝕀ℕℂ𝕋𝕀𝕆ℕ } A desperate Parasaurolophus talks to dinosaurs about the coming asteroid extinction. Support us on patreon: http://patreon.com/ArtHousePolitic...
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[26-Jan-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/26/politics/poll-of-the-week-trump-pelosi-shutdown/index.html

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The numbers show Trump lost the shutdown and Pelosi won
First things first: The theme song of the week is The Tonight Show theme song by Rickey Minor.
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[26-Jan-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, pre shutdown, Trump was ahead on immigration issues and gamesmanship in polls


[26-Jan-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
now Pelosi/Dems are ahead


[26-Jan-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-Jan-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[26-Jan-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soviet carebear stare


[26-Jan-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it cleanses the capitalism and makes people happy with the wealth of comradery


[27-Jan-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html

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Texas Secretary of State Questions Citizenship of 95,000 Registere...
The findings of an 11-month investigation seemed certain to reignite partisan debates over the frequency and impact of voter fraud.
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[27-Jan-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk for those who don't get the joke, "URSAL" is close to the 'Guese word "urso", which means "bear"


[27-Jan-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republican stance is "if you can vote you probably aren;t a citizen of this country"


[27-Jan-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
tfw if you're a citizen of the country, you cannot vote


[27-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/26/media/shutdown-trump-conservative-media/index.html

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Right-wing media split over Trump's shutdown decision: Did he cave...
Some of President Trump's typical media boosters are savagely criticizing his decision to surrender after a five-week-long partial shutdown of the government.
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[27-Jan-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
this is how you kill a party


[27-Jan-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Step 1: Make party support something morally unsupportable, like using the livelihood of government workers and in turn everyday people to commit extortion on a grand scale, in support of something equally morally unsupportable
Step 2: Refuse even so much as a basic truce while you discuss it
Step 3: Wait a month as you slowly damage your image and everything you hold dear
Step 4: Challenge the other party's leader to do something to stop you rallying support, when they totally can
Step 5: Turn around and accept truce at a time where it's obvious you could've waited longer, but also that you only held out because you made a mistake with 3 and 4


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the people that want you to stikk to your guns are upset you didn't, the people that want you to use common sense are upset you didn't, the people that want you to do the evil goal are upset you didn't, and the people that want you to accept compromise are upset that you waited too long.


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only people who aren't upset are those who will support you even if it kills them.


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a lot of the Republican party, sure


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not enuff.


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
you sure about that


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[27-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's popularity has been utterly destroyed among independents


[27-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he now is viewed as worse on immigration, border security, and political maneuvering.


[27-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents are the election-swingers, remember.


[27-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones who say they are outright Republican will almost never flip


[27-Jan-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't his lowest approval rating


[27-Jan-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's third-lowest


[27-Jan-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it is the only time his approval had a smooth gradual change in only one direction


[27-Jan-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it was downward.


[27-Jan-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there's a way to democratically elect a president for life without becoming a dictatorship


[27-Jan-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
like the supreme court, except elected instead of appointed


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
what about the senate?


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that the longer time between elections, the more people will dig in to money for when they retire


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means corporate lobbying


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the shorter time between elections, the more people will dig in to corporate campaign sponsorship


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
make corporate lobbying illegal


[27-Jan-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
which also means corporate lobbying


[27-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to balance the two directions to get the lowest total effect


[27-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you can't make it illegal in total


[27-Jan-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it will always be doable in some manner.


[27-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgInmHHO0m4

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New Rule: Grow Up | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill responds to Stan Lee fans upset over his recent blog post and says...
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[27-Jan-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maher truly is the ultimate boomer


[27-Jan-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
christ, I didn't even make it 30 seconds into that video before I closed the tab in disgust


[27-Jan-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/7tKbFfS.jpg

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[27-Jan-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
WHO WOULDA THUNK


[27-Jan-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
"I am an old guy, I bought a house working 10 hours a week with an 8th grade education and then destroyed the economy behind me. I'm Happy!"


[27-Jan-19 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ShPagA8Ns
thought crimes are becoming a real thing in the uk

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[27-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
that's authoritarianism


[27-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
that has nothing to do with leftism


[27-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
any government, no matter whether left or right, can be authoritarian


[27-Jan-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, generally right likes authoritarian, because right involves support of authority and lakk of dissent


[27-Jan-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
left inherently comes with wanting dissent and opposition of authority


[27-Jan-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is that the *particular* values that people latch onto can take on a life of their own and become absorbed by authoritarians


[27-Jan-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in the end, the far right doesn't really care *what* excuse it uses for power


[27-Jan-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
only power itself


[27-Jan-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's what *makes it* the far right.


[27-Jan-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And idiocy knows no political spectrum.


[27-Jan-19 09:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kfor.com/2019/01/22/oklahoma-representative-proposes-bill-that-would-prohibit-teacher-walkouts/

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https://kfor.com/2019/01/22/oklahoma-representative-proposes-bill-that-would-prohibit-teacher-walkouts/
Oklahoma representative proposes bill that would prohibit teacher ...
OKLAHOMA CITY - After thousands of Oklahoma teachers walked out of the classroom last year, an Oklahoma state representative has proposed a bill that would prohibit teachers from going on strike again.

Last March, the Oklahoma Education Association announced that it was seek...
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[27-Jan-19 10:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

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America's gun culture in 10 charts
Charts explaining some of the key statistics behind gun ownership and attacks linked to guns in the US.
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[27-Jan-19 11:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
We can't normalize relationships with Cuba, or they'll go fucking space marines when they get full access to the global economy.

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[27-Jan-19 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
it's still authoritarian though


[27-Jan-19 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
how good are they with racism and discrimination against non-citizens?


[27-Jan-19 11:38 AM] Crow#5457
also, unemployment and low child mortality rate aren't necessarily signs of good living standards


[27-Jan-19 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
trump keeps rattling on about the low unemployment, but participation is below 66%


[27-Jan-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
it was 62.7% in september 2018


[27-Jan-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
plus, wages are in the shitter in the US as well


[27-Jan-19 11:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well given Cuba has been a place to go for beleaquered black activists from the US, chased out of the states by the CIA since the 60's and Fidel Castro having signed into law anti-discriminatory laws, race may not be at all that big of an issue.


[27-Jan-19 11:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd have to do more digging for wages, but as a comparison it's worth pointing out that when one adds all the free benefits and programs in the Soviet Union that gave citizens free housing, water, medical care, electrical, etc it turns out the Soviet Citizen was on average the third highest paid worker in the world. Though given Cuba's over all small economy it'd be too generous to say it goes as high as that, more so when most migrants now coming over from Cuba are doing so for economic reasons than humanitarian reasons; even though in the entire reign of Castro he had killed as many people as the previous dictator over a much longer span of time, and for the most part these individuals were involved in the terror policies of Fulgencio Batista.


[27-Jan-19 11:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
In Cuba's political climate, they're on their third president I think after Fidel. So they've democratized far more after that.


[27-Jan-19 11:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
What we may be seeing in terms of Cuba is them hitting the natural ceiling that their island's material resources creates, as enforced by the standing US blockade.


[27-Jan-19 11:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
They were ready for a tourism boom too, before Trump came on in.


[27-Jan-19 12:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
these charts mean shit aaron


[27-Jan-19 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is free education,free medicine,low unemployment rate in russia


[27-Jan-19 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
on the papers


[27-Jan-19 02:45 PM] ononim#8141
hmmmm I wonder which reform made it go to shit and be only on paper and which actually brought them in place 🤔 🤔 🤔


[27-Jan-19 08:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1089589587456991233?s=21

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[27-Jan-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is not how walls work, sir


[27-Jan-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless we're literally dropping criminals off the top of the wall


[27-Jan-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walls are msot effective when they are built around things. a border wall doesnt wrap around america


[27-Jan-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and people are ogoing to be boating aroudn the edges


[27-Jan-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just taking a plane


[27-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What about Great wall of China?


[27-Jan-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was penetrated by the huns a lot actually


[27-Jan-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the great wall was meant mroe to slow down the invaders so they could be picked off by forces waiting in and on the wall


[27-Jan-19 08:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
like border patrols


[27-Jan-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but given this is trump do yout hink he;s going to spring for extra patrols along those hundred thousand miles?


[27-Jan-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's going to pick afew nice key locations and  use the wall as a back drop for ahwile while it falls appart due to lack of maintanence after the 11 years it took to build it


[27-Jan-19 08:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
U can use thousands of drones to watch over,and send small group of ppl if someone trying to pass through

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[27-Jan-19 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then why not jsut use the drones witohut the wall?


[27-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk


[27-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Trump promised wall and he aint to liar


[27-Jan-19 08:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats why


[27-Jan-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump also promised jail time for severla people who arent beign sent to jail


[27-Jan-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also a denuked north korea


[27-Jan-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and to not crash the economy


[27-Jan-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that mexico would pay for said wall


[27-Jan-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also to "drain the swamp"


[27-Jan-19 08:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He's still working on those,probably


[27-Jan-19 08:44 PM] illumnious#7938
http://trumpdonald.org/

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[27-Jan-19 08:46 PM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[27-Jan-19 08:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-says-it-has-discovered-95000-non-citizens-on-voter-rolls-58000-have-voted

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The Texas secretary of state's office announced Friday that the state has discovered 95,000 non-citizens on the voter rolls going back to 1996, 58,000 of whom have voted in at least one election  -- an announcement likely to raise fresh concerns about the prospect of voter...
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[27-Jan-19 09:04 PM] ononim#8141
The Great Wall of China was not to prevent any human traffic between it


[27-Jan-19 09:04 PM] ononim#8141
But to prevent sepcifically military invasion and raids


[27-Jan-19 09:07 PM] ononim#8141
Mexico doesn't plans (or tbh even has an ability to do one, even if we dismiss the obvious disbalance in industry and manpower) to conduct large scale military invasion so why try to build a fucking wall which not would be eneffective to hinder immigration, but would be absolute shit against military intrusion too, unlike defence lines like Magniot or Mannerheim lines which were not "walls" but serries of fortifications and bunkers meant to stop an army


[27-Jan-19 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminder that the Maginot line fell quite quickly


[27-Jan-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maginot line?


[27-Jan-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
The defensive foritifcations between France and Germany built after WW1


[27-Jan-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Germany walked around it.


[27-Jan-19 10:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
To the French credit, they were expected the Netherlands and Belgium to stall the Germans a bit more than they did, which is hard to do since both countries are flat as all hell. The highest point in my county is for instance Mt Everest compared to their highest points, and that point is only a hill.


[27-Jan-19 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with the Siegfried Line built by the nazis right after


[27-Jan-19 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Plus


[27-Jan-19 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Iran, centuries ago, tried to build a wall on its northeastern border to protect against Turkic and other nomadic invaders from Central Asia


[27-Jan-19 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It also proved itself useless


[27-Jan-19 10:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
A wall is only really as effective as its weakest point, and if you can go around it, over it, under, or bribe your way through it then it's not really all that effective. It's why the only effective wall is the one Isreal built around Gaza, because it's Gaza and they can totally enclose the city, then finish the siege by lumping their whole coast guard or navy just off shore to not let anyone so much as swim twenty feet out.


[27-Jan-19 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One point as to why the Iranian Wall was useless was that it only covered a relatively short distance, as encircling all of eastern Iran would be very damn expensive


[27-Jan-19 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same point for Trump's southern wall


[27-Jan-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you wanted to build something as effective as that, you would need to totally enclose all of America or Mexico, which means also putting it on the coast because there's no way we'd be able to have a coast guard or navy large enough to watch over the coasts as Isreal to Gaza. And then we'd have to practice absolute control over the skies because we'd have operational airports still.


[27-Jan-19 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Memo for Trump: if he wants to diminish crime supposedly related to illegal immigrants, why not legalize a range of drugs?
It'll cost nothing, unlike the cumbersome wall he proposes. And it might even bring revenue to govt, from taxes.


[27-Jan-19 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Legalize drugs and the cartels will lose some 90% of their power.


[27-Jan-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or, unspeakable as it is for either party: decriminalize migration enough so that migrants who come over don't have to fear retribution, giving them room to organize a union and actually raise wages and improve working conditions for the fields they're in so they're less inclined to turn to the drug trade.


[27-Jan-19 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QjukcchXWk

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[28-Jan-19 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://lenins-and-things.tumblr.com/post/182356722693/nuttgodd-antisolanum-gayhex-itsalburton

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[28-Jan-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tony-schwartz-art-of-the-deal-shutdown_us_5c484372e4b025aa26be7e3c

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[28-Jan-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There is one reason I can imagine Trump finding a way to open the government by January 29. He desperately wants to give the State of the Union to Congress. It's always, always about his vanity.


[28-Jan-19 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpaOp6_I7M

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[28-Jan-19 02:29 AM] sectioned#3090
!appeal


[28-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/YTYDUvO.mp4

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British politics at their finest.
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[28-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
"I like how they respectfully tell each other to fuck off."


[28-Jan-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip" -Winston Churchill


[28-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-whitehall-officials-look-at-prospect-of-imposing-martial-law-in-event-of-nodeal-a4049751.html

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Brexit officials look at prospect of martial law in event of no-deal
Brexit planners are looking at the possibility of imposing martial law in Britain in the event of a “no-deal”, it has emerged. Legislation which gives ministers the powers to impose curfews and travel bans, confiscate property and deploy the armed forces is being examined...
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[28-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Yuri#4154

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[28-Jan-19 04:17 AM] ononim#8141
UK dissolution soon


[28-Jan-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
V for Vendetta soon?


[28-Jan-19 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-x9A9FntmU

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[28-Jan-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-martiallaw/britain-has-martial-law-option-under-brexit-no-deal-but-no-plan-to-exercise-it-secretary-idUSKCN1PL0DJ

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[28-Jan-19 05:04 AM] Mikey#7286
https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-kicks-off-campaign-oakland-rally-defends-record-prosecutor-014352910.html

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[28-Jan-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
I've looked her up a bit, I like her


[28-Jan-19 05:07 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[28-Jan-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/26/kamala-harris-has-complicated-history-with-wall-street.html

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[28-Jan-19 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
daily reminder that Kamala Harris is a cop


[28-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[28-Jan-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
cops aren't inherently bad though


[28-Jan-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
how is she a cop?


[28-Jan-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
she's apparently made cops angry


[28-Jan-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
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[28-Jan-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
larsen's conviction was overturned, but he was still not allowed to leave prison


[28-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
"Eleven years later, a judge reversed the conviction due to the lack of evidence and incompetence of Larson’s attorney’s. Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality."


[28-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
"Tens of thousands of people petitioned Harris to release Larsen, and numerous civil rights groups similarly called on her to do the right thing. But even when he was eventually released from custody after fourteen years, Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit."


[28-Jan-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
"Harris has also recently taken up the habit of reminding us that “the war on drugs was a failure.” Yet Harris’s record on drug reform while attorney general is nonexistent."


[28-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cop Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
At some point, people hav to realize that politicians are mostly liars


[28-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they support and what they believe aren't necessarily the same thing


[28-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and what they say is something else too


[28-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lying shills like her are exactly what the Democratic party needs to win.


[28-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they can do just enuff evil bullshit to make conservatives tacitly accept them


[28-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
while actually getting reform done.


[28-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
this is why bernie is the best candidate, I've never been able to find anything in his record that goes against what he currently says


[28-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately, what you hav to recognize is that evil people compromise the Republican party, which is a huge percent of the electorate.


[28-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is the ideal leader, but unacceptable to evil


[28-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a Bernie vs. Hillary competition, it is not entirely clear who wins


[28-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
bernie is the only candidate that would've been able to beat trump


[28-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Principled people may select Bernie because he is honest, but some of them will value instead hurting poor people as a principle, and vote Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
hillary basically bought out the DNC to ensure she won the nomination, even though she didn't actually need to


[28-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not sufficient just to win


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Hillary barely won, the win would be less legitimate


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Mikey#7286
So I guess 4 more years of the orange ape


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Cool


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
By crushing Bernie into the dust, she looked more legitimate


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will not win regardless of who the DNC nominates


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is just a question of what the DNC wants strategically to replace Trump


[28-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
I can imagine him winning again if hillary is nominated again


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
literally anyone but hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is problematic in 2024


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be too old


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling he would be too old


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Mikey#7286
I seriously doubt Bernie will gain any traction if he runs in 2020


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
2020 is pushing it as it is


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the South, full of evil, would hate him


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is much, much more palatable.


[28-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
She is sufficiently evil.


[28-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Republican presidentical candidate in 2024 would be unable to make a case to switch away from her


[28-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
She would not only be the savior against Trump, with sane policies, but she would be able to tout how many blakk people she put in her place, implicitly, to racists.


[28-Jan-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives wouldn't turn out to vote.


[28-Jan-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this sounds horrible, congrats, welcome to American politics.


[28-Jan-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jesus himself would lose the Republican nomination, and probably the Democratic one too.


[28-Jan-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Satan would be a contender, and the Buddha might inspire some hope, but I think the only deity from any religion that could actually win would be Loki.


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be sufficiently two-faced to win the Democratic nomination.


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
some liberals still blame Bernie and Bernie Bros for Hilary's loss in 2016, I don't think anyone in the DNC can muster enough support so I'm look to a Trump 2020 win


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would toss him out for having "family-incompatible values"


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the DNC could nominate a dog


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would still lose


[28-Jan-19 06:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Bernie wasn't responsible for Hilary's loss


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
it was the DNC and hilary herself


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary literally won the popular vote


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump won because of a very sneaky strategy with tipping a percentage point in a few particular states to abuse the electoral college


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He essentially won on a technicality


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And note


[28-Jan-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
his popularity has gone down since election day


[28-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and everyone does worse in reelection


[28-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is *incredibly* ridiculous to even suggest he could win 2020


[28-Jan-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
that technicality still exists and the people that voted for Trump aren't looking to vote for any DNC  candidate


[28-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The people that voted for Trump" isn't just the Republican base


[28-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it includes many independents


[28-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents are the KEY to American elections


[28-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
both parties are cemented


[28-Jan-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will all the time support whatever their party does by a 80-20 or better margin.


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
okay but they liked Trump's platform more than Hillary's and her's was about as milquetoast liberal as one could get


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents tend however to support a particular thing by the same amount as the overall population


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
hilary also banked on basically being "not Trump" as well


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the two parties are near-equal and cancel each other out


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary's strategy was sound


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
not really


[28-Jan-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it actually won her the popular vote by a wide margin


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
the DNC doesn't have a plan other than we're not Trump currently and while he's not crazy popular thats a pretty piss poor position


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are massively misinterpreting the results to take the Electoral College results to mean the strategy was incorrect on a high level.


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Electoral College doesn't *operate* on a high level


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it operates per-state


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
the electoral college is dumb and outdated


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
by changing where you win votes, you win differently in the Electoral College


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's the way Trump won


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got votes in the right states


[28-Jan-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
okay so how does the DNC get Ohio and Michigan to like them?


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho he was like THREE MILLION votes behind Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
By going after independents


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are the swing votes


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I know


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are all over Ohio and Michigan


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I live in one of them


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I am one of them


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you appeal to Independents is by being milquetoast


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
like Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
not really


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That part of her strategy worked


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
it didn't though she lost Michigan


[28-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it was not as intense as it would've been


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie won the primary there


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie wasn't the target of her strategy


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was never even a contender


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
We were Berniebros up here, Bernie appealed directly to us. Then when Hillary forgot us, they went to Trump.


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or Greens.


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or anyone else but, really.


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
she lost the electoral college, and however crap a system it is it's the one that matters so her strategy is crap too


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can grab tons of Independents by being super honest and common sense


[28-Jan-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it'll lose you all the conservatives


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Honesty


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
I AM.


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get destroyed in the South


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
SO VERY.


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
HONEST.,


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
BELIEVE YOU ME.


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not saying she was honest


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Mikey#7286
hilary is as bad as Trump


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
<Dies smiling>


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am saying her strategy was to grab independents with wishywashiness


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
This gets you decent support from them along with tepid support from conservatives


[28-Jan-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't super alienate anyone


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Hillary is a slightly more tact version of Trump and if she had a decent cabinet she at least wouldn't do dumb shit like not let trans people serve in the military


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is *not* as bad as Trump, @Mikey


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Mikey#7286
she's horrible


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying so shows you don't understand the issues.


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or don't care about the issues.


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
This whole assumption is based on the idea that the Dems and Republicans occupy the absolute limit of American politics, as opposed to the absolute limit of the corporate politics that dominates. There's not either or and a bunch of people in between. But either or and then those between plus the real majority who doesn't vote because both parties are trash.


[28-Jan-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which most people don't, but I really expect better here.


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Dems and Republican constitute maybe 30% of the vote.


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or, possible voters


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why independents hav such pull


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Mikey#7286
she and the DNC blatantly screwed over bernie who did gain traction for the sake of having a female nominee


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're a third of voters


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone else are those "centrists" or third party voters, or people who just don't vote because nothing fits.


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, @Mikey?


[28-Jan-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's more to a candidate than whether they're an evil person.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not getting this is WHY Trump wins and fukks everything up.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't hav Bernie.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know that's shitty, but you *can't* hav Bernie.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Says the guy who declares Republicans evil


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is off the table, understand?


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
peak Ivory Tower-ism.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I am saying is


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are evil


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is pretty evil


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe now but he had a chance in 2016


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is good


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good cannot win.


[28-Jan-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you plan to change the voting system, stop getting hung up on good vs. evil


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and vote for some byronic hero shit.


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nah fam, you're the one bringing up good vs evil.


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had ZERO chance in 2016


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're the one bringing up weird binary thinking.


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And there's only that shit


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the middle has to be swayed


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about binary thinking


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
he had a chance


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And is stuck in some imaginary worl where that's the whole scope.


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that an honest candidate can't win


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie had a pretty good chance if the DNC had been fair


[28-Jan-19 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
a big chance but again the DNC didn't want him


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
MIkey


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he had 0 chance


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he couldn't win enuff votes


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the math doesn't support a chance.


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voters simply didn't support him sufficiently within the party.


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Mikey#7286
i could have sworn he got good support


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you heard about


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
time and time again


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
was that he got screwed by technicalities


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he did


[28-Jan-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it didn't matter


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if he won everything where he got screwed, he'd still lose to Hillary


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the problem


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason it was such a big story was because he got more support than initially expected


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
super delegates, whom regular voters don't choose, didn't like Bernie


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he kept on fighting despite not being able to win


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
at a certain point, he said he knew he couldn't win


[28-Jan-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he hoped to make Hillary swing left just by making her work for it.


[28-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, he was trying to make sure that Hillary was a little less evil.


[28-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
With super delegates, he would've needed an absolutely retarded amount of votes from the people to win.


[28-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's say he actually had all of them


[28-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
even then, he'd need to come close to Hillary's votes from the people


[28-Jan-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he wasn't that close at all


[28-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of his support was from early caucuses


[28-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is from the northeast, where a lot of voters like an honest liberal, and only turn to Republicans because of liberals being dishonest to win


[28-Jan-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The northeast does caucuses over primary elections


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that means big debate halls where you win when everyone joins your side


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
this favors honest, logical stances over a bunch of doubletalk


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that got Bernie a lot of initial support.


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
However


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats also exist in places like Texas


[28-Jan-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Texas Democrats are not Vermont Democrats.


[28-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are conservatives in the Democratic party in Texas.


[28-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Mikey#7286
well we need to rethink our standards and actually push for honest politicians


[28-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who believe we should hav welfare, maybe socialized medicine, but not go too far in giving blakks and gays rights right away


[28-Jan-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who voted for Bill Clinton and Obama twice


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But who were quite okay with Reagan wanting the gays to go die from disease.


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
These people cannot be appealed to by honest candidates


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they desire things that are indefensible morally


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
honest debate destroys their views


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore


[28-Jan-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump over Bernie Sanders.


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they saw Hilary vs. Bernie on their primary election


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, Bernie was pure evil


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is an age divide here too


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people don't like blakks and gays getting rights, not at all


[28-Jan-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people also VOTE MORE, @Mikey


[28-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the American system discourages entrance into being a voter


[28-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but once you're in, it's easy to keep voting.


[28-Jan-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consequently, Hillary got tons and tons of votes from geriatric bigots.


[28-Jan-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus even without all the bullshit, would've still won the nomination and faced Trump in the general election.


[28-Jan-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is unpalatable because he isn't some bigot who turns around and says something else when it's convenient.


[28-Jan-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being honest *is a flaw*.


[28-Jan-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least the way the system is setup.


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Mikey#7286
well people are dumb for not liking honest candidates


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Mikey#7286
the sooner we have less boomers in office and as voters the better


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the two party system is scummy


[28-Jan-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace Boomers with Gen X and you hav the same problem


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Mikey#7286
Gen Xs aren't as bad


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
entrenched old people in their party refuse to support honesty


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but it would be similar.


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't want old people in control.


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want young people to hav as much of a say.


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Mikey#7286
we need more millenials in the government


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in our system, old people hav more say.


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's hard to become a voter


[28-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Mikey#7286
or at least be a majority


[28-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it takes a lot of money to become a politician.


[28-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, as to whether Hillary is as bad as Trump


[28-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, as to whether Hillary is as bad as Trump


[28-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's way less petty, for a start.


[28-Jan-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
there was a point in time in which people wouldn't learn what is currently taught in high school until they were in their 30's


[28-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
HIllary doesn't play these bullshit games like the shutdown


[28-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
though I feel like college level history should be a minimum for entering politics


[28-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
She also is a bit more honest


[28-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho she's two-faced, she doesn't outright make shit up to say for campaign speeches.


[28-Jan-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump however..."Drain the swamp"


[28-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making it seem like Hillary was equivalent to Trump was part of the Trump/Russian strategy


[28-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's classic Russian propaganda tactics


[28-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And You Are Lynching Negroes.


[28-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
AKA Whataboutism


[28-Jan-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you are doing horrible shit like rape and murder


[28-Jan-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
then when called out, you point to some guy who is jaywalking


[28-Jan-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so you say that "everyone breaks the law sometime", right, @Mikey?


[28-Jan-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then, who can blame you for just breaking the law.


[28-Jan-19 07:03 AM] Mikey#7286
i never said that


[28-Jan-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm using a hypothetical.


[28-Jan-19 07:04 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[28-Jan-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the defense of the hypothetical rapist-murderer.


[28-Jan-19 07:04 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean, torrenting music is illegal so I think most people have done something illegal at some point


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, it's okay to commit genocide.


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's the argument.


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
well it's a retarded one


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's easy to be fooled by it


[28-Jan-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because usually the scales aren't nearly as vastly different


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and humans instinctively want to only blame one person


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So by just pointing to someone else doing something bad, you reduce how bad you look doing something way worse.


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then people forget exactly what you and him did


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they say you are as bad as him


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and vice versa


[28-Jan-19 07:06 AM] Mikey#7286
hmmm


[28-Jan-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary handled Benghazi fine


[28-Jan-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[28-Jan-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the emails that was in the trove found showed she was actively looking into the situation the day before the attakk


[28-Jan-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
there just wasn't enuff time to properly secure the embassy


[28-Jan-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I told you that tomorrow you'd wake up and be shot, would you be able to stop it?


[28-Jan-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've taken over a week's warning to really deal with what happened there, and things were too unpredictable for that.


[28-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the private email server thing


[28-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was new policy at the time


[28-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colon Powel had a private email server and that was A-OK


[28-Jan-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
new security directives considered Hillary's private email server not okay, and it was a minor mistake on her part


[28-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It didn't ultimately lead to any important info getting out.


[28-Jan-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
As sensitive as the secretary of state's communications are for overall startegic diplomacy goals, most countries already know that shit.


[28-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those were the two big things Republicans latched onto


[28-Jan-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the former, the idea that she was incompetent


[28-Jan-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the latter, that she was furthermore not understanding of security risks


[28-Jan-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary definitely shouldn't be trusted to manage security, it's just not her forte, but she isn't stupid and super negligent.


[28-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
She certainly would not do things on the scale of what Trump has done as far as revealing important info plainly on the internet...


[28-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
well, i don't think she should run again honestly


[28-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to Hillary vs Trump, she's an average politician


[28-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is something far worse.


[28-Jan-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Running again would be stupid


[28-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's understandable she ran to begin with.


[28-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we had a saner election system, she'd be president right now


[28-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and she'd be working on some common-sense approach to healthcare


[28-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of shutting down the gov't


[28-Jan-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, she'd be hating poor people all the while and fighting the new incoming Dem house reps


[28-Jan-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and she'd be lying thru her teeth when she'd say she understands the plight of people who choose between their kid getting surgery and being able to eat for a week


[28-Jan-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but she wouldn't be forcing trans people out of the military "because"


[28-Jan-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
>common sense
I doubt she'd be pushing for Medicare for all


[28-Jan-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not suggesting she would


[28-Jan-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think she'd go after something like what Trump talked about with interstate competition


[28-Jan-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd steal that from the opposition and actually make it happen


[28-Jan-19 07:17 AM] Mikey#7286
if she runs again and gets nominated they've sealed Trump's reelection


[28-Jan-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
shutting down Republican efforts to oppose it.


[28-Jan-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you underestimate how badly Trump has been wounded by this shutdown.


[28-Jan-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
That's not common sense it's a dumb idea


[28-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Competition is a really good idea and per-state restrictions on where a service can operate are part of the biggest problems of healthcare


[28-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fragmentation of our healthcare system makes coverage very uncertain and keeps prices up.


[28-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Interstate competition would just end up like ISP's


[28-Jan-19 07:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with elections in this stupid system is that even though this shutdown has practically murdered his chances in 2020 he might somehow still pull through because this system is dumb as shiiiit


[28-Jan-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
You have a choice dictated by your location


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Not much of a choice then


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But without interstate competition, you already hav a choice dictated by your location


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if each state gets gerry rigged to fuck


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
And it'd just get worse


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's mandered, not rigged.


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
They'd merge


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Mikey#7286
honestly i just want someone who will do a good job of getting the orange manbaby out of office, he's extremely childish


[28-Jan-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
rigged is for mechanical systems or juries


[28-Jan-19 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gerry mandered*


[28-Jan-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a crap system now and interstate competition would be a crap system too


[28-Jan-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary or Harris would do fine at undoing most of Trump's bigger damages.


[28-Jan-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately tho


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
some of the damage will take decades to fix.


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as much as i didn't like hillary part of where she went wrong is she under estimated trump and got really really cocky


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you aren't getting Bernie.


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
She relied on a sane election system


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Saying she's get something done to healthcare is saying she look busy and accomplish nothing


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
her strategy didn't target the right states


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even so


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
a mild improvement to healthcare is much better than what we're getting


[28-Jan-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has been tugging at every loose thread in the ACA


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has been damaging it over time


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
making it worse.


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
we need something that's better than ACA


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
We will not get something better from Republicans


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ACA *was* their plan.


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
it's a poor attempt at socialized healthcare


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Honahue#0656
She relyied on sane elections? Then she's an idiot or she had a shitty stratigizer


[28-Jan-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
i know


[28-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
She didn't hav Russia bakking her


[28-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're very good at detailed strategy.


[28-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they'll work for free if they hate your enemy enuff.


[28-Jan-19 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia did to us what we usually do to other coutnries through the CIA


[28-Jan-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, the CIA is more violent


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Shes a career politician and she didn't know to go for swing state and electoral college votes? We should be lucky she's not president if she doesn't know the games rules


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia used social media, and very intricately


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Trump knew how to abuse swing states


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
CIA stages coups and revolts


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Russia sure does


[28-Jan-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astroturfing is very powerful if done correctly.


[28-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
At times, they would plant both anti Trump and anti Hillary messages together


[28-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an effort to get people hateful and cause reversion to the mean (50/50 split, seeing both as equal, the point of whataboutism)


[28-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and keep in mind


[28-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whataboutism/AndYouAreLynchingNegroes is *their* strategy, they know it pretty damn well.


[28-Jan-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not something that's been long standard practice in the US


[28-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Trump is deep into it, he'll use it in an interview


[28-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll say that Putin kills people too and Russia's a great country, so the US shouldn't fear having to kill people


[28-Jan-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically the perfect storm


[28-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
he also says Kim Jong Un is a great leader and does what he needs


[28-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's crybaby nature leads to Russia's favorite propaganda tactic, they hate Hillary...


[28-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
he's basically a dictator's lackey


[28-Jan-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
he'd probably say Stalin was just misunderstood


[28-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't help the FBI reopened the Hillary investigation last minute pointlessly with a big announcement.


[28-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of thing can tip an election when a percentage point matters


[28-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it did matter.


[28-Jan-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
2016 was a damn mess.


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a nuclear dumpster fire


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we're still not done dealing with it.


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment's gonna be fun to watch.


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you enjoy looking directly at nuclear explosions.


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Mikey#7286
if he gets impeached


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will be proceedings guaranteed at this point


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems control the house.


[28-Jan-19 07:29 AM] Mikey#7286
and if he does, i hope you like President Pence


[28-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has done more to get impeached than any president in history


[28-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
combined.


[28-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like Watergate wrapped in Lincoln's VP and then buried under all the shit from the early 19th century.


[28-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
Trade a manchild for an evangelicalist conservative


[28-Jan-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
great


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only hope is that Pence gets impeached too due to being an obvious accomplice to criminal acts.


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
although I suspect Pence might not actually care about Trump


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's probably not gonna happen.


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, with luck pence get;s thrown out with trump though that elaves us president pelosi which i'm unsure how to feel about


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean Trump doesn't give a shit about religion


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause all Pence did was conspiracy/aiding and abetting


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
so if Trump gets impeached Pence might turn tail with the rest of his cabinet


[28-Jan-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile also did obstruction of justice, witness intimidation, and a host of other shit while in office.


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be cleaner to just impeach Trump and leave Pence to replace him.


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to mention more palatable to Republicans


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
since if both get removed together


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pence is also probably more mentally stable aside from the whole evangelical thing and he might not resaort to evangelism durign a presidential run


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi becomes President


[28-Jan-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[28-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas if Trump goes and Pence stays, Pence can select whoever to become VP


[28-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, likely outcomes are:


[28-Jan-19 07:33 AM] Mikey#7286
if he does get impeached wouldn't Pence not get a full term anyway


[28-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 Trump gets impeached and removed as president to enjoy life in prison along with Jared and a few others close to the conspiracy, Pence becomes president and selects someone like Sessions as VP


[28-Jan-19 07:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Pence would get 2 years out of this and thne have to hand it over to the winner of 2020


[28-Jan-19 07:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless he ran in 2020 and won himself


[28-Jan-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 Trump is impeached, but the vote fails and he remains president, absolute chaos as Republicans lose so hard in 2020 that they hav to rebrand the party


[28-Jan-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the unlikely scenario is:


[28-Jan-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 Trump and Pence get impeached together, Nancy Pelosi becomes president and Republicans weep, but stay afloat somewhat in 2020 and keep control of the Senate to forestall any possibility of Medicare For All etc.


[28-Jan-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I think Republicans are bad at long-term strategy because they focus on holding onto power in the short-term


[28-Jan-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they're gonna end up losing congress badly by bungling it with President Pence continuing Trump's failed policies.


[28-Jan-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or just Trump himself if they REALLY latch on hard.


[28-Jan-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will succeed, however, in destroying many lives and America's standing.


[28-Jan-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas the President Pelosi route would hav a recovery start before 2020


[28-Jan-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if their goal were to destroy America, best to go full steam ahead with unimpeachable Trump until their party gets rekt in 2020


[28-Jan-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not their goal, but sadly, it might as well be.


[28-Jan-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd love to say they'll go for the long-term strategy and impeach Pence too but naaaaah


[28-Jan-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that'd be the route better for everyone, including Republicans.


[28-Jan-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, if the House doesn't do proceedings, @Mikey ....


[28-Jan-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be absolutely nuts


[28-Jan-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause at this point


[28-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice


[28-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
forget everything Mueller is looking into


[28-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has very blatantly committed obstruction of justice and it is all over his twitter.


[28-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In any previous decade, he would be removed from office by now.


[28-Jan-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is patently absurd that he is still in office, and we need to not forget that.


[28-Jan-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also probably committed witness intimidation a few weeks ago


[28-Jan-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I did that a few weeks ago, I'd be in jail today


[28-Jan-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, any previous decade, president would be facing impeachment *now*


[28-Jan-19 07:42 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[28-Jan-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, seriously, just try tweeting


[28-Jan-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
about how you intentionally removed a guy because he wanted to continue to investigate you


[28-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and about how you wouldn't've appointed someone if you knew they would recuse themself due to conflict of interest towards you


[28-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
after doing these things.


[28-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would be in jail very, very fast.


[28-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are crimes.


[28-Jan-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are *textbook* obstruction of justice.


[28-Jan-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are what you would come up with if you wanted to explain the concept to a child.


[28-Jan-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That of abusing authority to hinder an ongoing investigation out of personal interest.


[28-Jan-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[28-Jan-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction of justice requires knowing *mindset*, the *why* of someone's actions.


[28-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is normally HARD to prove this


[28-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
because people don't just brag about how they abused their authority to everyone...


[28-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
except Trump does.


[28-Jan-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has literally provided, with his tweets, evidence likely beyond that of anything Mueller could find to prove his guilt.


[28-Jan-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller could find all sorts of shady documents and witnesses who could attest to what Trump said and it wouldn't necessarily prove obstruction of justice on its own


[28-Jan-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Trump stating his intentions on Twitter...


[28-Jan-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

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America's gun culture in 10 charts
Charts explaining some of the key statistics behind gun ownership and attacks linked to guns in the US.
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[28-Jan-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the number of guns per 100 residents is *120*


[28-Jan-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are more guns than people in the US, literally.


[28-Jan-19 07:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump just waltzes onto twitter and announces his intentions directly


[28-Jan-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a mafia investigation, the main boss tweeting about why he wakked Jonny would be the end of an investigation, basically


[28-Jan-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could just arrest everyone and start the trial.


[28-Jan-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Trump's the president


[28-Jan-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing keeping Trump from being in jail right now is a political party unwilling to admit their leader committed crimes.


[28-Jan-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Insisting that we wait on a thorough investigation that is currently digging up tooooons of crimes.


[28-Jan-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho tbf


[28-Jan-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is Mueller's style


[28-Jan-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
very very slow burn to eradicate the whole mafia


[28-Jan-19 07:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can only hope he soemhow takes mcconnell with him but who knows


[28-Jan-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's *possible*


[28-Jan-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnel's wife became Transportation Secretary, remember.


[28-Jan-19 07:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I did not know this...


[28-Jan-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elaine Chao


[28-Jan-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's Chinese, very conservative, from Taiwain originally.


[28-Jan-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely the type Republicans desire


[28-Jan-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
During the Cold War, America reversed the racism switch against Asians in an attempt to stop Communism


[28-Jan-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It began putting out propaganda saying they were better than all other minorities and good at math etc.


[28-Jan-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way, conservatives could say blakks just don't measure up to Asians


[28-Jan-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
while giving Asians the White treatment and not Blakks


[28-Jan-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Chinese culture is very conservative


[28-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only Nixon could go to China...because basically Republicans *want* China to rule the world.


[28-Jan-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as they villify it repeatedly.


[28-Jan-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a way to put gov't control of capitalism and racism against the brown people on top.


[28-Jan-19 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions-deripaska.html

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By KENNETH P. VOGEL
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/politics/trump-russia-sanctions-deripaska.html
Treasury Dept. Lifts Sanctions on Russian Oligarch’s Companies
Democrats had tried to block the move, which they criticized as a capitulation to the Kremlin and one of its key allies.
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[28-Jan-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, the company did a token effort and put some Trump cronies in the mix


[28-Jan-19 05:23 PM] illumnious#7938
Remember 2016 https://vine.co/v/5MU0p2gW2U2/

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Vine
The entertainment network where videos and personalities get really big, really fast. Download Vine to watch videos, remixes and trends before they blow up.
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[28-Jan-19 05:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So, any new stuff with Venezuela happened?

Did US get their oil or not?


[28-Jan-19 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[28-Jan-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie nothing's gonna happen before 2020


[28-Jan-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think


[28-Jan-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.upi.com/US-accepts-new-political-envoy-for-Venezuelan-interim-government/6961548653561/

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U.S. accepts new political envoy for Venezuelan 'interim' government
Amid Venezuela's leadership crisis, the U.S. State Department said it's accepted the interim Caracas government's appointment of a new political envoy.
https://cdnph.upi.com/sv/ph/og/upi/6961548653561/2019/1/79ebd3375f4a708722e496ef64b08e24/v1.5/US-accepts-new-political-envoy-for-Venezuelan-interim-government.jpg


[28-Jan-19 09:08 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking we shall see


[28-Jan-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8xjwjz/sen-ron-wyden-introduces-bill-that-would-send-ceos-to-jail-for-violating-consumer-privacy

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Sen. Ron Wyden Introduces Bill That Would Send CEOs to Jail for Vi...
The 'Consumer Data Protection Act' is a bill that would comprehensively overhaul internet privacy protections.
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5bdb5c27faa45a0006b7d4be/lede/1541102866849-shutterstock_512884006.jpeg?crop=1xw:0.845440881763527xh;center,center&resize=1200:*


[28-Jan-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
YES


[28-Jan-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
PLEASE DO THIS


[28-Jan-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[28-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Unlikely it will pass imo.


[28-Jan-19 10:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Would be rad, however.


[28-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1089881244312178688

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1089881244312178688
Howard Schultz doesn’t have the “guts” to run for President! Watched him on @60Minutes last night and I agree with him that he is not the “smartest person.” Besides, America already has that! I only hope that Starbucks is still paying me their rent in Trump Tower!
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[28-Jan-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking christ what a child


[28-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one wants a spoiler


[28-Jan-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he just call himself smartest person in america?


[28-Jan-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/concern-robot-gif-9226335

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https://media.tenor.co/images/8ae67437f332f0484be549821a84e355/tenor.png


[28-Jan-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what the fuck with the starbucks comment?


[28-Jan-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does starbucks have to do with a dude running for president and why is there a star bucks in trump tower?


[28-Jan-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is this what gives me questions?


[28-Jan-19 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Howard Schultz ran Starbucks


[28-Jan-19 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump Tower basically has a shopping mall on the ground floor afaik


[28-Jan-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oooh


[28-Jan-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok that's helpful context


[28-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But yeah, people are mad because a competent independent runner may fuck over the dems that are really hoping for the "not-trump" vote


[28-Jan-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which wouldn't be an issue if they stopped being so fucking retarded and presented a non-shit candidate


[28-Jan-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no idea where the CEO of starbucks stands on anything


[28-Jan-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i know is if the democrats stopped sabotaging themselves for monetary gain, they wouldnt be so shit


[28-Jan-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can only hope the current DNC isnt as buyable in 2020 as the 2016 members were


[28-Jan-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter whether it's buyable


[28-Jan-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
the support isn't there for a Bernie win


[28-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, geriatric bigots want Hillary or equivalent


[28-Jan-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I know it isn;t i just don;t want soemone buyign their way through the primaries agaqin without a fight


[28-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want measured, slow, shilled progress.


[28-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things could've literally flipped to Bernie buying up things, Intexda


[28-Jan-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
he would've still lost


[28-Jan-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primary was a complete joke from the outset.


[28-Jan-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was only noteworthy because Bernie got a bit more support than the practically-nonexistent support that was expected.


[28-Jan-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of voters love Bernie, but lots hate him, and the spoiler effect prevents mass support.


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was a little dissapointed the third canadate got almost no votes, he seemed reasonable


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont remember his name though


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jill Stein?


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so maybe that;s why he got no support


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
She was like Bernie but a truther


[28-Jan-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no the third democrat


[28-Jan-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Martin O'Malley


[28-Jan-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
he withdrew pretty much right away.


[28-Jan-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[28-Jan-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy


[28-Jan-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
He saw Hillary would win and he knew he'd hav no effect.


[28-Jan-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie sanders and clinton entered the picture and he pretty much noped the fuck out of there


[28-Jan-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie stayed on in an attempt to sway Hillary more to the left.


[28-Jan-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/huawei-charges/index.html

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United States files criminal charges against China's Huawei
The United States has filed criminal charges against Huawei, escalating its fight against the Chinese tech giant and potentially complicating efforts by Washington and Beijing to negotiate an end to their bruising trade war.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190125112538-01-huawei-file-2018-super-tease.jpg


[29-Jan-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
watching the stock market go up and down in response to all this china stuff is hilarious


[29-Jan-19 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1090006346026704896?s=19

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5,000 troops to Colombia” -Bolton’s yellow pad
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[29-Jan-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
wonder if that's a misdirection or not


[29-Jan-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably not


[29-Jan-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For the longest time I was convinced Trump was a dem plant to torpedo the GOP primaries by making it look like a clown show


[29-Jan-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the truth is stupidity will always surprise you


[29-Jan-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
trump is a russian plant to torpedo US interventionism


[29-Jan-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
I bet trump is going to purposefully fuck up venezuela in order to make everyone hate the US


[29-Jan-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
on top of getting trump to leave NATO


[29-Jan-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump throws america iunder a bus -> trump get;s nice shiny tower in moscoow with a special suite for putin


[29-Jan-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure who woudl want to live int he same building as putint hough


[29-Jan-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds like a death wish


[29-Jan-19 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine not holding the elevator for Putin


[29-Jan-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just even being int he same elevator as putin


[29-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine being extorted by a country weaker than Canada


[29-Jan-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that russia?


[29-Jan-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[29-Jan-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess we need to call in the might of canada then


[29-Jan-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be hilarious if they, and only them, went to war.


[29-Jan-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has more resources and money.


[29-Jan-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of Canada's recent oil boom.


[29-Jan-19 01:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Putin doesn't need a plant to get the US to fuck up in Venezuela, the US's general foreign policy in Latin America does that well enough


[29-Jan-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt need one but that doesn't mean that one isn;t appreciated\


[29-Jan-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jan-19 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Only great if it's Greek or Latin


[29-Jan-19 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
teach them kids Koine Greek and the Septuagint


[29-Jan-19 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Is that real


[29-Jan-19 03:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
@byte[]  https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1089876055224184833

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Numerous states introducing Bible Literacy classes, giving students the option of studying the Bible. Starting to make a turn back? Great!
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[29-Jan-19 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Wtf


[29-Jan-19 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Why is this real


[29-Jan-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, no, guys, it's the marxists indoctrinating our kids


[29-Jan-19 03:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I got detention in religion class for not knowing how to read a bible (turning to the right page). I still don't know how. it is a cluster fuck of a book with names and numbers 1:11. Give me page numbers, chapters and parts. I did give it a read through from start to finish which makes even more of an atheist knowing what's in it.


[29-Jan-19 04:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[29-Jan-19 04:52 AM] Yuri#4154
This


[29-Jan-19 04:52 AM] Yuri#4154
Is amazing


[29-Jan-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant wait to see what wonders day 3 brings to our glorious motherland


[29-Jan-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socialized medicine built out of former luxury yachts.


[29-Jan-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fort Knox torn apart to pay off the national debt


[29-Jan-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rivers run clear blue with the stench of disallowing hazardous waste dumping by small multimillion-dollar businesses.


[29-Jan-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the absolute horror!


[29-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, churches converted into islamification camps.


[29-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where you will be told the contents of the Quran and offered a chance to convert.


[29-Jan-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that last one is just weird but ok


[29-Jan-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those who resist suffer the horror of cleaning up our national parks.


[29-Jan-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I guess that's fair... I mean OH GOD! THE SHEER TERROR OF IT ALL!!!


[29-Jan-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elon Musk annointed as the next coming of christ


[29-Jan-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
While honest businessmen like Trump are made to pay taxes on real estate.


[29-Jan-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the absolute monsters


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
>Elon Musk anointed
more like guillotined


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jaywalking LEGALIZED


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
GGASP


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
plastic straws BANNED


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Cars BANNED


[29-Jan-19 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
trains only


[29-Jan-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-childhood-gif-3529800

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The horror
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[29-Jan-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/NIVI1gj

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Increased price by 1700% with no changes since 1996
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[29-Jan-19 11:20 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/01/28/government-shutdown-republicans-trump-1133101


[29-Jan-19 01:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://politi.co/2FVnN1C

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Republicans may block Trump from another shutdown
The Senate GOP has no appetite for another political debacle and is pushing Trump away from closing the government again.
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[29-Jan-19 01:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why people won't just impeach him?


[29-Jan-19 01:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Friggen lol

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[29-Jan-19 01:05 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s the same thing I would say to the people in The Bahamas who complaining about the current prime minister who fucked up the country.


[29-Jan-19 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well he needs to go to trial first and they need to ensure it;s an offense he canlt jsut pardon himself out of because half the scotus and himself beleive he has the ability to do so


[29-Jan-19 01:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Rich people get sentenced to month or so in super comfortable rooms at most.


[29-Jan-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ans meuller basically wants to burn the anthill and then fill it with cast iron so it cna never be filled again


[29-Jan-19 01:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't believe he will be sentenced seriously.


[29-Jan-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meuller will try, the real question is whether the hosue and congress will as well


[29-Jan-19 01:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is not looking as likely


[29-Jan-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the two major problems with them are vanity and image


[29-Jan-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for democrats the longer trump is in hosue the better they look


[29-Jan-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for republicans, the longer he;'s in the mroe fucked up shit they can get away with


[29-Jan-19 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne there's putin


[29-Jan-19 01:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What about him?


[29-Jan-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has been a major destabilizing force in america and just lifted sanctions on a metric butt fuck of russian businesses. Russia might be militarily weaker than canada but their strength is espionage and manipulation. Trump is basically handing America to putin on a silver platter while making kissy faces at the rest of the world's dictators


[29-Jan-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t know what his real relationship is with putin but all his body language aroudn putin is that putin is the boss and he;s a worthless lackey


[29-Jan-19 01:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2020-obstacles-trump-wide-open-democratic-race/story?id=60599657

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Welcome to 2020: Obstacles for Trump and a wide-open Democratic ra...
A new ABC News/Washington Post poll.
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[29-Jan-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem coming in 2020 is it;s pretty fucking obvious hillary is running again


[29-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's putting out hype men, she'shanging the question by a ceilign string.


[29-Jan-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she;s hyping herself up to make a last minute annoucnement for 2020


[29-Jan-19 01:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Was there ever a decent President?


[29-Jan-19 01:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤔


[29-Jan-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
abraham lincoln, teddy rosevelt, george washington


[29-Jan-19 01:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But how do we know they really were?


[29-Jan-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in recent years not really


[29-Jan-19 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a valid point but then again one of thme took a bullet and kept giving a political speech before he woudl actually accept getting rushed tot he hospital


[29-Jan-19 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he has my respect atleast


[29-Jan-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I only hope the democrats dont try to force a rematch between hillary and trump


[29-Jan-19 04:39 PM] moonatik#3676
there's one thing I'm sure of


[29-Jan-19 04:39 PM] moonatik#3676
howard schultz will never be president


[29-Jan-19 04:39 PM] moonatik#3676
he'll get like 8 votes


[29-Jan-19 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
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[29-Jan-19 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
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[29-Jan-19 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
bigger res


[29-Jan-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-25/california-sues-surf-city-usa-for-snubbing-affordable-housing


[29-Jan-19 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-Jan-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUicQL-Vz8c

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African Philosophy & the Enlightenment | Philosophy Tube
Ethiopian philosopher Zera Yacob came up with philosophy that prefigured Enlightenment thinkers Hume, Descartes, Locke, Kant, and the US Founding Fathers! On...
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[29-Jan-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/roger-stone-conspiratorial-rant-accuses-robert-mueller-using-gestapo-tactics-covering-9-11/

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Roger Stone's conspiratorial rant accuses Robert Mueller of using ...
Trump confidante Roger Stone on Tuesday suggested that CNN was part of a conspiracy to have him arrested because network cameras were present when the FBI took him into custody. During an interview on WABC-AM radio, Stone defended the media appearances he’s made following h...
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[29-Jan-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Robert Mueller also bumped into me in 2002, causing me to drop my ice cream cone.


[29-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Aliens


[29-Jan-19 09:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://youtu.be/mjsaEIc6vdY

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Astronomers detect radio signals from far away galaxy
Thirteen radio bursts received from deep space; Fox News Headlines 24/7's Brett Larson weighs in on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.' #Tucker #FoxNews FOX News Chann...
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[29-Jan-19 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
"radio signal" is a different way of saying "specific frequency of light"


[29-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
there's radio signals all over the universe


[29-Jan-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
what would be significant is to find radio signals which actually translate into something meaningful


[29-Jan-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Call me when the radio signal has a specefic pattern and may be something more than natural noise.


[29-Jan-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the meantime I'll continue to believe we're the first and if we don't fuck up Earth we'll be that progenitor race of aliens that creates sapient life.


[29-Jan-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
And we'll leave behind giant rings.


[29-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why FNC likes to talk about tabloid shit so much


[29-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
that's the opposite of what you want to do if you want to try and pretend to be legitimate


[29-Jan-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This was on BBC and CNN for two days as well


[29-Jan-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And a bunch of other publications


[29-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
with flying saucers?


[29-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
lol


[29-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc it was relevant because of it being a repeating sequence


[29-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
that thumbnail looks like something out of a conspiracy theory channel


[29-Jan-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, I don't watch news, just read it


[29-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
talking heads make mine hurt


[29-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
obviously the aliens are beaming mind control waves to destabilize earth's governments


[29-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
that's why 2,200 billionaires got 12% richer and 3.8 billion people got 11% poorer


[29-Jan-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
aliens


[29-Jan-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46811618

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Mysterious radio signals from deep space
A telescope picks up bursts of radio waves from a distant galaxy, shedding light on an astrophysical puzzle.
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[29-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
I think I linked that article on the day it was released


[29-Jan-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
yeah https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438412674326331432/532666859045126190


[29-Jan-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How is this political?


[29-Jan-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biblethumpers don't believe in aliens


[29-Jan-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[29-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
fake news


[29-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
no one was convicted


[29-Jan-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
they're all just at the farm down south having a party


[29-Jan-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
they'll be back soon


[29-Jan-19 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/3MY96WJSeWU

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On Trump's Scapegoating and the Wall
Douglas Lain was recently interviewed by Isabel Webster on Sky News. He appeared in opposition to the failed gubernatorial candidate Peter Lumaj in order to ...
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[30-Jan-19 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/opinion/zuckerberg-facebook-ads.html

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Opinion | Mark Zuckerberg’s Delusion of Consumer Consent
He said Facebook users want tailored ads. According to our research, that’s not true.
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[30-Jan-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-blocks-ad-transparency-tools

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Facebook Moves to Block Ad Transparency Tools — Including Ours  ...
Our tool had let the public see exactly how users were being targeted by advertisers. The social media giant urged us to shut it down last year.
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[30-Jan-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/books/review/roger-mcnamee-zucked.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/books/review/roger-mcnamee-zucked.html
An Anti-Facebook Manifesto, by an Early Facebook Investor
In “Zucked,” the venture capitalist Roger McNamee — a former mentor to Mark Zuckerberg — reveals the inner workings behind the platform’s troubling rise to global behemoth.
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[30-Jan-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
killer quote:
McNamee also takes care to remind the reader of the telltale heart (or lack thereof) beating beneath the floorboards of Facebook headquarters: Its first iteration, Facemash, invited Harvard students to compare photos of female classmates — photos Zuckerberg stole from online student housing directories — for the high cause of determining who was hotter. Yes, the world’s fourth most valuable company can trace its origins to the frustrated misogyny of an ur-incel. The moral vacuousness Zuckerberg displayed as a young adult should have told us something about how he and many other young “disrupters” intended to operate. As McNamee writes, “You can imagine how attractive a philosophy that absolves practitioners of responsibility for the impact of their actions on others would be to entrepreneurs and investors in Silicon Valley.”


[30-Jan-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/video/4018635-empires-jussie-smollett-assaulted-in-chicago-police-investigate-as-possible-hate-crime/

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Empire’s Jussie Smollett Assaulted In Chicago, Police Investigat...
The Chicago Police Department received a report of a possible racially-charged assault and battery against an ‘Empire‘ cast member. Sources told CBS 2 the cast member is Jussie Smollett.  Matt Yurus reports.
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[30-Jan-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/world/europe/brexit-vote.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/world/europe/brexit-vote.html
In Critical Brexit Vote, Theresa May Survives
Lawmakers narrowly rejected an amendment that would have put Parliament in charge of the withdrawal from the E.U., overturning constitutional protocol.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/30/world/30brexit1sub/30brexit1sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[30-Jan-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why they don't just put out another referendum to show that literally no one wants to leave the EU


[30-Jan-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
I know they've been pushing for one


[30-Jan-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
but I guess theresa may isn't willing to let the "filthy commoners" end her power trip


[30-Jan-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Jan-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
more proof that Trump is a moron


[30-Jan-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump literally gave the "If global warming why is it so cold" argument unironically


[30-Jan-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several tiems in fact


[30-Jan-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is only his latest version of it


[30-Jan-19 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
even though extreme winters are an effect of global warming


[30-Jan-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[30-Jan-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
chuds be like, "lmao wat do leftists have to say about the change from global warming to climate change." Leftist chads respond with: "HAST THOU HEARD OF THINE REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT FRANK LUNTZ?"


[30-Jan-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude like


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump argued that CFC regulations were unnecessary


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
because penthouse air doesn't reach the atmosphere


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"it's all sealed"


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This simultaneously doesn't understand air pressure and circulation


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it also shows he thinks only rich people use hairspray


[30-Jan-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that poor people liv in Penthouses


[30-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was during his campaign


[30-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's amazing people are still surprised by his idiocy


[30-Jan-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has like a 4th grade understanding of the world at best.


[30-Jan-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not surprised just extremely dissapointed


[30-Jan-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his 3rd grade teacher is spinning in her grave... if she;s dead


[30-Jan-19 03:03 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[30-Jan-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if she;s not dead she;s probably slamming her face on a wall


[30-Jan-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to become dead


[30-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
rich kids aren't usually taught in school at that age


[30-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
they're taught by tutors


[30-Jan-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but he probably had a private tutor


[30-Jan-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kew-Forest_School

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The Kew-Forest School is an independent, co-ed, college preparatory school for students in grades Pre-Kindergarten-Grade 12. The school was established in 1918 primarily for residents of Forest Hills and Kew Gardens, Queens, New York. At present, the school now has students f...
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[30-Jan-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
that's where he went to school from kindergarten to 7th grade


[30-Jan-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
>Tuition ranges from $13,545 to $36,390 per year for grades ECD (Pre-K) through grade 12.


[30-Jan-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that was wasted on him


[30-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
>At age 13, he was enrolled in the New York Military Academy, a private boarding school, after his parents discovered that he had made frequent trips into Manhattan without their permission.


[30-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[30-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Military_Academy

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New York Military Academy (NYMA) is a college prep, coed boarding school in the rural town of Cornwall, 60 miles (97 km) north of New York City, and one of the oldest military schools in the United States. Originally a boys' school, it started admitting girls in 1975. The sch...
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[30-Jan-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
he attended before it started admitting girls


[30-Jan-19 03:18 AM] Mikey#7286
reminder that we have idiots like this in the GOP


[30-Jan-19 03:18 AM] Mikey#7286
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DufihgsUwAAhXFI.jpg

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[30-Jan-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[30-Jan-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the planet;s existance isnt the issue here, it;s our existance that;s at stake you gas guzzling gurgle funk


[30-Jan-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-populism when


[30-Jan-19 03:24 AM] Mikey#7286
and he claims to be against "junk science"


[30-Jan-19 03:24 AM] Mikey#7286
😂


[30-Jan-19 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
we should send him to Venus so he can learn first hand the issues of it's atmosphere


[30-Jan-19 03:25 AM] Mikey#7286
I agree


[30-Jan-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Careful, he's pretty dense, he might be adapted to survive on Venus.


[30-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[30-Jan-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
😂 😂 😂


[30-Jan-19 04:47 AM] Honahue#0656
lead is dense too but it still melts on venus


[30-Jan-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but it at least doesn't get crushed.


[30-Jan-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
he's mostly water he'd flash boil but the atmosphere would be pretty chemically inert so the rest of him would just get really hot, I don' think much in a person melts at those temps on Venus


[30-Jan-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
your body is mostly composed of unsaturated hydrocarbons


[30-Jan-19 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
most unsaturated hydrocarbons cannot withstand high heat and undergo entropy-driven decomposition above a certain temperature


[30-Jan-19 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
converting to simpler hydrocarbons and/or carbon dioxide


[30-Jan-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
humans would combust way before they melted I think


[30-Jan-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Not in an oxygen-poor environment


[30-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/despite-measles-outbreak-some-parents-choosing-not-to-vaccinate-their-kids/

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Measles outbreak fuels debate over refusing vaccinations
Measles cases have prompted a health emergency in Washington state
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[30-Jan-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
FIRE OUTBREAK FUELS DEBATE OVER WHETHER TO BUILD FIRE HYDRANTS etc.


[30-Jan-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only exemption should be for religious reasons.


[30-Jan-19 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your Facebook research isn't an excuse.


[30-Jan-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Screw religious reasons


[30-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want to not vaccinate cause you believe some sky demon will send you to another dimension? okay, you aren't allowed in public schools.


[30-Jan-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't endanger everyone else with bad sanitation just because of bullshit.


[30-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it, Its, if I said for religious reasons I can't shit in the toilets


[30-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think they'd hav to accomodate me?


[30-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
These things are essentially comparable, going without a vaccination leads to later contagiousness.


[30-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Mikey#7286
religion is a shit excuse


[30-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Finally a third party


[30-Jan-19 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's some point where religion can't be used as an excuse sure


[30-Jan-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated, but "Mueller is wrapping up his investigation" is the new "The check is in the mail" or "I'll still love you in the morning."


[30-Jan-19 09:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anyone wants some reading recommendations: https://youtu.be/4UBPLTCJYLM

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[30-Jan-19 09:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Some are directly political related, others sorta indirect.


[30-Jan-19 09:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta like: https://youtu.be/shClICujxhs

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Uses of Philosophy for Living: The Accursed Share
Visit my new website: http://www.wescecil.com The fourth lecture in Wesley Cecil's Uses of Philosophy series. This lecture explores the problems we encounter...
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[30-Jan-19 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://torchantifa.org/jewish-antifa-deface-nazi-collaborator-plaque/

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Jewish Antifa Deface Nazi Collaborator Plaque - TORCH NETWORK
Jewish Antifascists defaced an NYC plaque of Nazi collaboator Phillipe Pétain. Pétain was responsible for deaths of over 70,000 French Jews.
https://outlivethem.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/foto_no_exif-31135499428..jpg?w=740


[30-Jan-19 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
... why does he have a plaque to begin with?


[30-Jan-19 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
oh, from ww1


[30-Jan-19 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
>On 26 October 1931 Pétain was honored with a ticker-tape parade down Manhattan's Canyon of Heroes. Consideration has been given to removing the sidewalk ribbon denoting the parade for Pétain given his role with the Nazis in World War II.


[30-Jan-19 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
right in the middle of the great depression too lol


[30-Jan-19 01:24 PM] ononim#8141
Yes, but I am still baffled why is is it *still* there


[30-Jan-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
or at very least why it isn't changed in the way to clearly show that even tho at the time of it construction one could consider him a hero, he's unquestionably disgraced that title later on beyond any measure


[30-Jan-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
If one to subscribe to "well we shouldn't erase history and this was before his disgrace"


[30-Jan-19 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder what conservatives think about jewish antifascists


[30-Jan-19 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
they love to espouse the glory of israel, but I get the feeling that's only because israel is actually kind of autocratic and nationalist itself


[30-Jan-19 01:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why wouldn't they use stuff like, you know, pickaxe instead of some nail polish/paint?


[30-Jan-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably wanted soemthing that looked like blood instead of full on property damage


[30-Jan-19 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted antifa isn;t well known for their lack of property damage but sometimes removing the offending monument doesnt get the message across


[30-Jan-19 01:53 PM] ononim#8141
Paint is also probably faster, so less time for police to stop


[30-Jan-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[30-Jan-19 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
paint is also quieter than smashing


[30-Jan-19 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/

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Facebook pays teens to install VPN that spies on them
Desperate for data on its competitors, Facebook has been secretly paying people to install a “Facebook Research” VPN that lets the company suck in all of a user’s phone and web activity, similar to Facebook’s Onavo Protect app that Apple banned in June and that was re...
https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/facebook-research-vpn-project-atlas.jpg?w=711


[30-Jan-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they are


[30-Jan-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I really wish i could say i was surprised


[30-Jan-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i miss when news was shocking


[30-Jan-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], that really doesn't sound like it should be legal


[30-Jan-19 02:37 PM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that facebook might actually cause all big old companies to band together and lobby against it


[30-Jan-19 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, reading that article, that sounds like a massive lawsuit on apple's part


[30-Jan-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin zuckerburg, man


[30-Jan-19 02:58 PM] moonatik#3676
if a german held up a french store, the manager would surrender and collaborate with the robber


[30-Jan-19 02:58 PM] moonatik#3676
meanwhile the employees would hide in the basement before they rise up and defeat the german once the police arrive


[30-Jan-19 02:58 PM] moonatik#3676
then they'd hang their manager for treason


[30-Jan-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Apple should delete facebook from the app store


[30-Jan-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Seeing as they have the power to arbitrarily remove shit for no reason


[30-Jan-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Might as well do some good for this world


[30-Jan-19 04:38 PM] ononim#8141
ughhhh news going on about ~~brainwashing~~ "youth military group focusedd on educating kids in patriotic manner"


[30-Jan-19 05:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim 

**Put** _the patriotism_ **in**?


[30-Jan-19 05:45 PM] ononim#8141
heh


[30-Jan-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1090643264435298305

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This is incredible:
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[30-Jan-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/HomelandDems/status/1089643122706051072
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1089519559126802432

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We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country. So ridiculous! DHS
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[30-Jan-19 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[30-Jan-19 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Jan-19 10:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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[30-Jan-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[30-Jan-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-says-russians-using-his-discovery-materials-disinformation-effort-n964811

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Mueller says Russians are using his discovery materials in disinfo...
The information appears to have come from the materials shared with attorneys for Concord Management, one of several Russian entities accused of election meddling.
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[31-Jan-19 12:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-nireland-blast/ira-claims-responsibility-for-londonderry-car-bomb-idUSKCN1PN1LO

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'IRA' claims responsibility for Londonderry car bomb
A group calling itself the "IRA" said it was responsible for placing t...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190129&t=2&i=1351052611&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0S0ZV


[31-Jan-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thanks, Brexit.


[31-Jan-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I really always wanted was a return to the 1990s.


[31-Jan-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Carbomb me daddy.

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[31-Jan-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7woEXovruc

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Irish Rebel Song- Come Out ye Black and Tans
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[31-Jan-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JWfEpbYxWI&t=0s

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Can Video Games Challenge the Right?
Mike Watson returns to ask Can the Left Learn to Meme and, more specifically, can video games challenge the right wing. Watson’s book is due out this year fr...
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[31-Jan-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
tiocfaidh ár lá


[31-Jan-19 12:33 AM] DevField#5162
**COME OUT AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN**


[31-Jan-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chucky Armani


[31-Jan-19 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
Theresa May anounces Troubles 2


[31-Jan-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now with Irish people being arrested for looking at lolicon and being gay.


[31-Jan-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get hurt by an IRA carbomb and the NHS won't provide care because she defunded it.


[31-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk i almost read that as "come out ye black and trans"


[31-Jan-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Phew


[31-Jan-19 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scVShkKvj4c

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[31-Jan-19 02:11 AM] RYDE#8862
That's why I main Isabelle


[31-Jan-19 02:27 AM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I thought it were British who are TERFs


[31-Jan-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Thank goodness for people like Mitch, protecting this country from the tyranny of the majority https://www.gq.com/story/mcconnell-voter-turnout-bad

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Mitch McConnell Admits He's Against High Voter Turnout Because He ...
He openly mocked the idea of an Election Day holiday on the Senate floor and called it a "power grab" by Democrats.
https://media.gq.com/photos/5c520a1722b9ff10db79c352/16:9/pass/mitch-mcconnell-not-democratic-gq.jpg


[31-Jan-19 03:34 AM] Coffee#5074
https://tenor.com/view/drinking-coffee-tea-sips-tea-ahh-gif-12922200

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[31-Jan-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you just here to be smug?


[31-Jan-19 04:22 AM] Coffee#5074
If you're talking to me, i'm just enjoying the fact that a Derpibooru server has a politics channel, reminds me of the old 4Chan retarted times. I mean no offense- I'm just reacting to it.


[31-Jan-19 04:31 AM] Coffee#5074
Also i love that welcoming question, great start for a politics channel.


[31-Jan-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/427631-ocasio-cortez-on-schultz-why-are-billionaires-who-want-to-run-for-president

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Ocasio-Cortez on Schultz: Why are billionaires who want to run for...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday ripped former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz over his possible independent presidential bid, suggesting his lack of political experience pointed to a double standard.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_012919gn_lead.jpg


[31-Jan-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
it feels like cortez is the only outspoken reasonable politician in congress


[31-Jan-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
the rest go with the flow at best, and are in favor of the policies that are slowly destroying the US at worst


[31-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, what do you think about warren's chances? you said that kamala harris has a chance because she's willing to fuck over minorities while making slow changes


[31-Jan-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren looks too liberal


[31-Jan-19 06:16 AM] illumnious#7938

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[31-Jan-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
he's too busy watching fox news and eating big macs to have time to study the blade


[31-Jan-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, there was supposed to be a state of the union address yesterday, what happened with that?


[31-Jan-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh, it got rescheduled to february 5


[31-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris has a pretty good chance


[31-Jan-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh but she was a prosecutor" look do you think she's gonna appoint Scalia 2.0 or something lmao


[31-Jan-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/10012252/kamala-harris.jpg


[31-Jan-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
she defended harsh third strike laws in california


[31-Jan-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
"For all her recent concern about the incarceration of women and its economic effects, as district attorney, she successfully championed a statewide version of an anti-truancy law she had put in place in San Francisco that threatened parents of chronically truant children with as much as a $2,000 fine and a year in jail. By October 2012, two mothers had been imprisoned under the law."


[31-Jan-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
this article made me dislike her as both a person and a candidate


[31-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
"The Larsen case was a travesty of justice from start to finish. In 1999, when two police officers claimed they saw Larsen, who had earlier in his life been convicted for burglary, pull a six-inch-long knife from his waistband and throw it under a car, he was sentenced to twenty-seven years to life under the three-strikes law supported by Harris."


[31-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
"Forget for a second that the sentence was unduly harsh for the crime in question. Police had wrongly targeted Larsen for a search in the first place, and witnesses reported that it wasn’t Larsen but the man he was with who had thrown the knife. In trial, Larsen’s incompetent lawyer (who would later be disbarred) didn’t investigate a single witness, nor present one in trial."


[31-Jan-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
"Eleven years later, a judge reversed the conviction due to the lack of evidence and incompetence of Larson’s attorney’s. Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality."


[31-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
she's willing to keep an innocent man with his conviction overturned in prison because he was late filing his paperwork


[31-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
"Tens of thousands of people petitioned Harris to release Larsen, and numerous civil rights groups similarly called on her to do the right thing. But even when he was eventually released from custody after fourteen years, Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit."


[31-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
and when he was finally forced to be released, she personally challenged his release


[31-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
she didn't have to do this


[31-Jan-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
this was all her


[31-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly all of this would only help her in swing states.


[31-Jan-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[31-Jan-19 06:30 AM] illumnious#7938

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[31-Jan-19 06:31 AM] illumnious#7938
2020 leaks


[31-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sen-rand-paul-awarded-more-580-000-suit-over-neighbor-n965106

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sen-rand-paul-awarded-more-580-000-suit-over-neighbor-n965106
Sen. Rand Paul awarded more than $580K in suit over neighbor's attack
An attorney for the neighbor said they will appeal, and that while they expected a verdict in Paul's favor, "This far exceeds anything that we were expecting."
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_05/2735801/190130-rand-paul-court-ac-845p_35f82e15de392caee38a5db20f8787d1.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[31-Jan-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
"U.S. Sen. Rand Paul was awarded more than $580,000 in damages and medical expenses on Wednesday in his lawsuit against the neighbor who tackled him and broke several of his ribs in a dispute over lawn maintenance."


[31-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/Victorina-Morales-trump-golf-club.html

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By MATT STEVENS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/us/politics/Victorina-Morales-trump-golf-club.html
Undocumented Immigrant Who Worked for Trump Will Attend His State ...
Victorina Morales worked as a maid at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. She has been invited to attend the address by Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman, Democrat of New Jersey.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/31/us/31xp-sotu/31xp-sotu-facebookJumbo.jpg


[31-Jan-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 ICE is set on high alert to arrest her on sight


[31-Jan-19 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Zdky6BH_N8s

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TooDamnFilthy
https://youtu.be/Zdky6BH_N8s
PINK GUY - GAYS 4 DONALD TRUMP
Available on iTunes: https://itun.es/i67g4nD
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Zdky6BH_N8s/maxresdefault.jpg


[31-Jan-19 12:22 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/2p-vPjUy30o

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Saturday Morning Deathgrip- A Comedy Podcast
https://youtu.be/2p-vPjUy30o
My Little Pony Tales- Boys Boys Boys w/Lyrics
My Little Pony Tales and the androgynous horses and their stupid attitudes. http://www.saturdaymorningdeathgrip.com/ (We do not own the copyright to this wor...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2p-vPjUy30o/hqdefault.jpg


[31-Jan-19 12:22 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
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[31-Jan-19 12:22 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
~~this song is secretly feminist~~


[31-Jan-19 12:36 PM] Patrony#2095
https://youtu.be/DHLRj1LaPiQ

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The Daily Conversation
https://youtu.be/DHLRj1LaPiQ
Trump Destroyed by Comedian Hasan Minhaj at 2017 White House Corre...
Hasan Minhaj's full comedy routine at the 2017 White House Correspondents' Dinner. The comedian told one blistering joke after another about the sitting Pres...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DHLRj1LaPiQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[31-Jan-19 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wjmddq/study-finds-that-leaving-facebook-makes-you-happier-and-less-informed

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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wjmddq/study-finds-that-leaving-facebook-makes-you-happier-and-less-informed
Leaving Facebook Makes You Happier and Less Informed, Study Finds
When researchers measured the welfare of hundreds of people who left Facebook for a month, they found they were happier, less politically informed, more active in IRL activities, and less likely to go back to Facebook.
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5c52205dc392ba00072645d3/lede/1548886121409-shutterstock_550489600.jpeg?crop=1xw:0.843328335832084xh;center,center&resize=1200:*


[31-Jan-19 02:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Same for derpibooru?


[31-Jan-19 02:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[31-Jan-19 02:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But where I'm gonna find pony porn


[31-Jan-19 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps
Apple blocks Facebook from running its internal iOS apps
Facebook’s internal iOS apps simply don’t launch anymore.
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[31-Jan-19 02:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Smug Trixie

_more active in irl activities_


[31-Jan-19 02:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twicrazy:


[31-Jan-19 02:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWnanaFeelsPepoMan:


[31-Jan-19 02:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWnanamiPepoKMS:


[31-Jan-19 02:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Where I'm gonna find a horse irl


[31-Jan-19 02:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
In a stable


[31-Jan-19 02:23 PM] Patrony#2095
aahahahahhaa


[31-Jan-19 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-Jan-19 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Askari nibbas represent


[31-Jan-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-Jan-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
owo uwu owo


[31-Jan-19 06:45 PM] DevField#5162

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[31-Jan-19 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
/pol/ isn't even trying anymore


[31-Jan-19 06:47 PM] Honahue#0656

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[31-Jan-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/427848-stone-claims-mueller-probe-is-plot-to-make-pelosi-clinton-president

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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/427848-stone-claims-mueller-probe-is-plot-to-make-pelosi-clinton-president
Stone claims Mueller probe might be plot to make Pelosi, Clinton p...
Roger Stone, a former informal adviser to President Trump's campaign, on Thursday claimed that he believes special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russia's election meddling is a partisan plot to make Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and p


[31-Jan-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
my mom says the darnest things sometimes, like saying that making election day a national holiday will give people more time to stuff the ballots and elect all the democrats


[31-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-s-team-seized-voluminous-complex-evidence-roger-stone-n965426

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-s-team-seized-voluminous-complex-evidence-roger-stone-n965426
Mueller seized 'voluminous and complex' evidence from Roger Stone
Federal investigators probing Roger Stone seized multiple hard drives containing years of communication records from cellphones and email accounts.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_05/2736541/190131-roger-stone-ew-1233p_8ddb61221ab134c7605b64c5ec7cbcd8.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[31-Jan-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, he's gonna get buttfucked


[31-Jan-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
>The court papers said investigators grabbed hard drives containing several terabytes of information, including "FBI case reports, search warrant applications and results (e.g., Apple iCloud accounts and email accounts), bank and financial records, and the contents of numerous physical devices (e.g., cellular phones, computers, and hard drives)."


[31-Jan-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/maduro-government-detains-expels-journalists-in-bid-to-keep-power/2019/01/31/a736ad2a-24cc-11e9-b5b4-1d18dfb7b084_story.html


[31-Jan-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
"The Venezuelan government has stepped up efforts to quash news coverage of an opposition effort to overthrow President Nicolás Maduro, arresting at least 10 journalists over the past week in moves that have drawn protests from the European Union and Spain."


[31-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
ROFL


[31-Jan-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
I heard rush limbaugh blame abortions for school shootings


[31-Jan-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
I wish I could be stupid enough to make insane leaps of logic like that


[31-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ice-confirms-force-feeding-detainees-hunger-strike/story?id=60753032

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ice-confirms-force-feeding-detainees-hunger-strike/story?id=60753032
ICE confirms force-feeding of detainees on hunger strike
At least six detainees on hunger strike in Texas are being force fed.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/detention-center-main-abc-jef-181212_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[31-Jan-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
only a western, capitalist country can be this inhumane and autocratic without backlash


[31-Jan-19 10:15 PM] moonatik#3676
I don't think autocratic is the right word


[31-Jan-19 10:15 PM] moonatik#3676
but inhumane? bloody hell it's inhumane as fuck


[31-Jan-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
keeping people locked up without a trial is pretty autocratic


[31-Jan-19 10:16 PM] moonatik#3676
autocratic means rule of one


[31-Jan-19 10:17 PM] moonatik#3676
the word you're looking for is "a gross unconstitutional and authoritarian insult to the rule of law"


[31-Jan-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VxAqjlc.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/VxAqjlc.jpg


[31-Jan-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can eat a dick


[31-Jan-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cna eat manhy dicks


[31-Jan-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
many manly dicks


[01-Feb-19 12:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Pete Ricketts should get rickets.


[01-Feb-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow which reminds me, gamers who yell "stop shoving politics down our throats" at game dev companies whose games end up taking a political bent likely did not complain about DOOM Eternal's joke about demons being "mortally challenged" and earth being "the melting pot of the universe"


[01-Feb-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Political "escapism" is inherently political


[01-Feb-19 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't care if politics are put in a game as long as it's not the focal point and in your face


[01-Feb-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes it might be the focal point


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's games whose plot involves political refugees from Syria


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as,ong as it;s done tastefully and without force i dont mind


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
lemme retract


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
in a game like BFV


[01-Feb-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it has to be a main focal point it should still be a good game overall before a soapbox


[01-Feb-19 12:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I personally think some games should be politically provocative, i honestly liked Wolfenstein: The New Colossus for its stringent politics


[01-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmNPYCNwtec

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TheDaveSecond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmNPYCNwtec
Do you feel like a hero yet?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PmNPYCNwtec/maxresdefault.jpg


[01-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
where the lead was made a female with cybernetics


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
that came off as trying to appease a certain crowd for the sake of it


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yeah, BFV and likes were indeed questionable for the way they handled the politics of the context they were trying to prove


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
in Doom Eternal when they say "demon can be an offensive term" etc


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
it's one line


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and it's over with in two seconds


[01-Feb-19 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The point is not that it's one line


[01-Feb-19 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The point is, gamers have yelled at things similarly small when coming from the left side


[01-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
well some gamers are stupid


[01-Feb-19 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yet, they chuckled at this joke. Yet, they claim to be apolitical.


[01-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
if there's a point where a character is stated to be gay and it's dropped after


[01-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't care


[01-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Mikey#7286
if it's the focus of the game and it makes no sense from a story perspective it's distracting


[01-Feb-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i laughed it at it because it reminded me of a midget joke but yeah...


[01-Feb-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They prefer the term little people"


[01-Feb-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which reminds me, though it contains spoilers


[01-Feb-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For Wolfenstein: TNC


[01-Feb-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can i tell it?


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Mikey#7286
sure


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
the game's been out for like 6 months


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure i;m never playing


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
6 months


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At one point, there's a scene in a level on the game where an alternate Ronald Reagan makes a cast for a nazi propaganda film


[01-Feb-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I loved seeing the director telling him it wasn't patriotic enough


[01-Feb-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411683462328745996/540693074817318922/facebook_1548981552133.jpg

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[01-Feb-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
cannabis my friend


[01-Feb-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
https://reut.rs/2sWXAat

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https://reut.rs/2sWXAat
U.S. to announce suspension of compliance with nuclear pact: officials
The United States will soon announce plans to suspend compliance with a landmark...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190131&t=2&i=1351812378&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF0U0TQ


[01-Feb-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141

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[01-Feb-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[01-Feb-19 01:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDSD_UNG-A8

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Posadist Pacman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDSD_UNG-A8
Posadism in a nutshell
A C C E L E R A T E THE DIALECTIC
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zDSD_UNG-A8/maxresdefault.jpg


[01-Feb-19 02:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Fucking lunatics wanting to kill people over a fucking plant.


[01-Feb-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Excuse me, they're called "senior citizens"


[01-Feb-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and "law enforcement officers"


[01-Feb-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/427967-warren-billionaires-should-stop-being-freeloaders

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/427967-warren-billionaires-should-stop-being-freeloaders
Warren: Billionaires should ‘stop being freeloaders’
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who announced an exploratory committee for president last month, defended her new proposal that would ramp up taxes on the nation’s highest earners.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/warrenelizabeth_020917vsj_lead_0.jpg


[01-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, what's posadism


[01-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
apparently some kind of nutjob conspiracy theorist/environmentalist marxist group?


[01-Feb-19 03:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta, but I'd explain some of their more serious shit but I just got to work. So not right now.


[01-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-assured-by-rosenstein-hes-not-a-target-of-mueller-probe-nyt-idUSKCN1PQ3G2

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Trump: assured by Rosenstein he's not a target of Mueller probe - NYT
U.S. President Donald Trump said in an interview on Thursday that Deputy Attorne...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190201&t=2&i=1352032843&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF102LS


[01-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh so now you believe Mr. Peepers


[01-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't believe anything he says about this stuff


[01-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/border-protection-agents-make-largest-fentanyl-bust-us/story?id=60758594

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Border protection agents make largest fentanyl bust in U.S. history
The drugs were seized at the port of entry in Nogales, Arizona.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/nogales-cbp-inspection-01-gty-jc-190131_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[01-Feb-19 04:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Quick post drop https://youtu.be/xf82f5Sguhg

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Zero Books
https://youtu.be/xf82f5Sguhg
Zero Squared 185: Nihilists believe in NOTHING! [unlocked]
Martin Frederiksen is the author of the book “An Anthropology of Nothing in Particular” which came out from Zero Books in August last year and he’s the guest...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xf82f5Sguhg/maxresdefault.jpg


[01-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
254 lb of fentanyl can kill 57 million people


[01-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/survey-shows-50-percent-jump-sexual-assault-harassment/story?id=60751487

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/survey-shows-50-percent-jump-sexual-assault-harassment/story?id=60751487
Sharp spike in sexual assault, harassment at military service acad...
Pentagon officials are concerned that despite significant prevention efforts, a new, anonymous survey indicates a nearly 50 percent spike in the prevalence of unwanted sexual contact at the three military service academies last year, while the number of incidents that were re...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/us-military-stock-gty-jef-190123_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[01-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Honahue#0656
my guess is more are reporting while the amount stayed the same


[01-Feb-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sexual assault has always sounded way too high int he military


[01-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bunch of guys with testosterone and only their fellow soldiers


[01-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
what do you think is gonna happen?


[01-Feb-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
gay sex?


[01-Feb-19 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[01-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
ehhhh, I went to basic and one story you'll here from a lot of men in basic is that the stress of it make erections mostly impossible


[01-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Mikey#7286
speaking of sexual assault


[01-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Mikey#7286
https://news.avclub.com/terry-crews-offers-fiery-response-to-d-l-hughleys-comm-1832140034

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Terry Crews offers fiery response to D.L. Hughley's comments about...
Back in August, comedian D.L. Hughley decided it was a good idea to comment on Terry Crews’ allegations that he had been sexually assaulted by a former WME agent named Adam Venit, saying that Crews should’ve physically stopped Venit from grabbing him because “god gave y...
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[01-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's gonna be sex one way or another and it may not be very consensual.


[01-Feb-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't basic though


[01-Feb-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
this is like military school


[01-Feb-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
it would be unlikely for it to happen much in basic, I agree there


[01-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
terry crews was sexually assaulted, he's the last person i'd expect to be a victim of it


[01-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/hkpicjrzpifs61jrxgsj.jpg

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[01-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[01-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
though this just solidifies that anyone can be a victim of assault


[01-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
male


[01-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
female


[01-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Mikey#7286
buff


[01-Feb-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[01-Feb-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s even harder on men because if men defend thmeselves physically it lands them with assault charges isntead of self defense


[01-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[01-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-seize-on-liberal-positions-to-paint-democrats-as-radical/2019/01/31/d705603e-24f2-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html


[01-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're getting desperate


[01-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are trying to say medicare for all is "radical"


[01-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690380288/senate-republicans-rebuke-president-on-syria-and-afghanistan-policy

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Senate Republicans Rebuke President On Syria And Afghanistan Policy
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's amendment opposing a "precipitous withdrawal" from Syria was backed by many GOP senators who disagree with the president's foreign policy.
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[01-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
what is this?


[01-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
mitch not backing Trump on something


[01-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
woah


[01-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate wants America out of Yemen and in Syria


[01-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wants America out of Syria and in Yemen


[01-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a super big pain point for the GOP


[01-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
it says mitch opposed withdrawal


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump is acting like Putin gave him an order


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans aren't having it


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch opposes the withdrawal


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
from Syria


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch wants us in Syria, not Yemen


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wants us in Yemen, not Syria


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is the conflict.


[01-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yemen we are helping the Saudis starve to death


[01-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
as part of a petty spat with Iran


[01-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Syria, we are bending over to let Assad and Russia and Turkey rape our Kurdish allies


[01-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[01-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bipartisan support exists to not support the Saudis at all and support the Kurds


[01-Feb-19 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow So anyways, Posadism: Posadism is a Trotskite tendency named after its founder J. Posadas. The tendency he's known for is know for being a meme: nuclear annihilation to destroy the USSR and Capitalism so communism can be built over the rubble, alliances with dolphins, and solidarity with space comrades. The truth of the matter is that Posadas developed his political philosophy when he was arrested and tortured by the government of Chile or where ever he lived. So after his brain got scrambled by the stress and terror it came out and on the influence of fifties and sixties sci-fi based culture it is rather absurd.


[01-Feb-19 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
But on the serious side there are some interesting critiques in Posadism. The value to their meme dream of nuclear annihilation is the notion of "crisis dialectics" or something. Basically meaning the historical process for which revolution has occurred has been in responses to certain natural or political criseses. The Russian Revolution was made possible by the crisis of the First World War for instance. To Posadism, nuclear annihilation would be the crisis for global communism. So while Posadists were a small sect in the already heretical Fourth International among mainstream communism of the Cold War they tried to encourage nuclear exchanges to "accelerate" to global nuclear apocalypse.


[01-Feb-19 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then after the Ayy LMAOS will come.

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[01-Feb-19 06:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Posadist organizational structure is wild too. Their leader is anonymous and referred to only as the Comrade High Commander, and his spokesperson is Comrade High Communicator. The later is active on Twitter.


[01-Feb-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://mobile.twitter.com/iwlcommunicator?lang=en


[01-Feb-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comrade Communicator's posts are wild.


[01-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXw2mhBsSk

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[01-Feb-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
4th International: You can't make shitposting your political platform
Posadists: That's where your wrong kiddos


[01-Feb-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656

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[01-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/647127

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[01-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
human introduces ancient human mating rites to lyra


[01-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
abduction, imprisonment, eventual rape, the works


[01-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Awww, traditional marriage.


[01-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
With all this gay marriage, one can forget what it looks like to do things the way God intended.


[01-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/427932-trump-administration-make-new-moves-towards-drug-pricing-transparency

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Trump officials make new moves to lower drug prices
A new proposal from the Trump administration is targeting secretive rebates between drug manufacturers, insurers and pharmacy benefits managers as a way to lower drug prices for Medicare.
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[01-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like a good change, less money going towards middlemen and more towards consumers


[01-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
probably won't hav much overall effect, tho, sadly.


[01-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prices will still be crazy.


[01-Feb-19 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/25/asia/china-marx-anime-intl/index.html

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Romantic Karl Marx anime targets new generation of Chinese communists
"Everything I do is for the poor masses of this Earth!" bellows the deep voice over bombastic classical music.
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[01-Feb-19 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weird but ok


[01-Feb-19 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda wanna watch it just to know what it;s like


[01-Feb-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://features.propublica.org/ms-13-immigrant-students/huntington-school-deportations-ice-honduras/

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He Drew His School Mascot — and ICE Labeled Him a Gang Member
How high schools have embraced the Trump administration’s crackdown on MS-13, and destroyed immigrant students’ American dreams.
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[01-Feb-19 04:33 PM] Honahue#0656
You know what would really lower prices is if they allowed Medicare to negotiate drug prices


[01-Feb-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but pharma wouldn;t want that


[01-Feb-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and pharma is paying several dozen politicians to cockblock any measure of resistance against them


[01-Feb-19 05:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/QZg5T_5Df1E

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[01-Feb-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/jacobdekk/status/1091173494144921600?s=20

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[01-Feb-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
UK continues to treat _Nineteen Eighty Four_ as an instruction manual http://reason.com/blog/2019/01/30/buying-a-hammer-the-uk-worries-that-migh

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Buying a Hammer? The U.K. Worries That Might Make You a Terrorist
Also suspicious: Recording police behavior.
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[01-Feb-19 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1090415758352347136?s=19

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this but unironically https://t.co/PxB3d1II1A
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[01-Feb-19 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
>she says all that as to mock the idea


[01-Feb-19 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
>people still protests in response to others calling her a cop


[01-Feb-19 07:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
She looks drunk. every step she took she looked like she was trying to not fall over.


[01-Feb-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-SaRDG6V-s

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Kamala Harris Hopes You'll Forget Her Record as a Drug Warrior & D...
The senator and presidential hopeful went to bat for dirty prosecutors, opposed marijuana legalization, and championed policies that endanger sex workers. Cl...
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[01-Feb-19 10:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/01/trump-good-chance-well-have-to-declare-national-emergency-for-wall.html

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Trump: 'There's a good chance we'll have to' declare a national em...
The president wouldn't say he would definitely declare an emergency, but he told reporters that such a declaration "does help the process."
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[01-Feb-19 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nibba's about to declare emergency over petty shit lol


[01-Feb-19 10:47 PM] Yuri#4154
Correct me if I'm wrong


[01-Feb-19 10:48 PM] Yuri#4154
But is this man child about to declare national emergency because congress won't give him what he wants?


[01-Feb-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[01-Feb-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he opened the government for 2 weeks to give his state of the union, and is now readying to close it again and declare a national emergency to use military budget to build a fucign wall


[01-Feb-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile if this exceeds february 8th then we have officially defaulted on our national budget


[01-Feb-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no spending bill will have been pssed so no budget will be available


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He literally is trying to become a dictator


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
this would only work if the courts shut down from no money


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but he let the gov't reopen


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
so by the time he shuts it down again, the courts will blokk him


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
he played his cards wrong.


[01-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very wrong.


[01-Feb-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's going to end up impeached.


[01-Feb-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his vanity is his undoing


[01-Feb-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If he uses the military to build the wall it is flagrantly unconstitutional


[01-Feb-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How much longer will Congress bend over backwards at executive power grabs


[01-Feb-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There must be a point where they will say "Fuck no, stay in your lane"


[01-Feb-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not there yet I guess


[01-Feb-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like there should be a way to override Mcconnell


[01-Feb-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as he;s one of the major obstacles stnading in the way of puttign trump on trial


[02-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can already see the removal votes


[02-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd have two R votes max


[02-Feb-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really doesnt help that most republicans are owned by russian business


[02-Feb-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
liek those oligarchs they jsut lifted sanctions on


[02-Feb-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which may be part of why they haven;t just decided to abandon trump yet


[02-Feb-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
High-level shitposting. https://derpibooru.org/generals/tartarus/post/4200808#post_4200808

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[02-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/throttling-of-firefighters-hurts-fcc-case-as-it-defends-net-neutrality-repeal/

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FCC struggles to convince judge that broadband isn’t “telecomm...
Skeptical judges question FCC's justification of net neutrality repeal.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/getty-net-neutrality-bullhorn-sign-760x380.jpg


[02-Feb-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh that was today


[02-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, multiple judges are absolutely grilling the FCC's retardation


[02-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That thing with California firefighters puts the FCC in serious hot water over preempting state law


[02-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
because public safety is a BIG deal in telecommunications law


[02-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The burden was on the FCC to show they weren't hurting it


[02-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't.


[02-Feb-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're now arguing the burden is on everyone else to show safety was hurt.


[02-Feb-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
A judge telling you outright you are arguing for something that is wrong is a big red flag in your case.


[02-Feb-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another key point is that the judges are questioning how an information service can exist without an underlying telecommunications service


[02-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a core assumption of the way the law was written.


[02-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FCC has no real counterargument


[02-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the biggest nail in the coffin is the thing about investor statements


[02-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FCC is saying that investment is hurt by net neutrality


[02-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judges know investors hav said the exact opposite, in statements that are *legally risky to make if not true*


[02-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't make a case to federal judges based on the idea everyone else is all-but-perjuring themselves.


[02-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is like a guaranteed way to lose in federal court.


[02-Feb-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow every arguement the FCC lawyer makes is absolute trash


[02-Feb-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he was held in contempt of court


[02-Feb-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is like as far as you can go with lying to a judge without facing consequences


[02-Feb-19 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Judges also heard from lawyer Jonathan Nuechterlein, who represented broadband industry lobby groups that support the FCC's repeal. Nuechterlein argued that there's no reason for net neutrality rules, saying, "there is really not a track record of ISP misconduct at all in the last 12 years." To Nuechterlein, Comcast throttling BitTorrent and AT&T blocking FaceTime apparently doesn't count as "ISP misconduct."


[02-Feb-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/01/family-tree-dna-fbi/

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At-home DNA testing company gives the FBI access to its database
Family Tree DNA has agreed to team up with the FBI, but it says feds won't be able to see more information than any other user can.
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[02-Feb-19 03:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47033704

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Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail
Japan is in the grip of an elderly crime wave. Poverty and loneliness are two of the possible causes.
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[02-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46970628

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Man 'who stole own car' wins settlement
Illinois police arrested Lawrence Crosby for theft but it turned out to be his own car.
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[02-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54YNnZMq-M

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Black Man 'Arrested For Stealing His Own Car' Wins $1.25M Settlement
Dr. Lawrence Crosby has reached a $1.25 million settlement with the City of Evanston and four police officers who arrested him during a traffic stop in 2015....
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[02-Feb-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cory Booker's campaign song got leaked


[02-Feb-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/Nt95ZrjKqtk

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Disney Channel
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Cory In the House Theme Song
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[02-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I said in a different discord that Cory Booker sounds like the name of a Disney Channel police procedural


[02-Feb-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Booker, Cory


[02-Feb-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientist-who-rejects-warming-is-named-to-epa-advisory-board/

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Scientist Who Rejects Warming Is Named to EPA Advisory Board
John Christy has advocated for the repeal of regulations on greenhouse gas emissions
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[02-Feb-19 04:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-64-mike-rowes-koch-backed-working-man-affectation

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Episode 64: Mike Rowe’s Koch-Backed Working Man Affectation
In recent years, television personality Mike Rowe has amassed a wildly popular following due to alleged working-class straight talk about topics ranging from the affordability of college to reassertin
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[02-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
god, there's just so much stuff from all directions to deal with


[02-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
no wonder the world is sinking


[02-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
you could literally spend entire days on this shit and get nothing meaningful done at all and only get 6 hours of sleep a day and still come out behind


[02-Feb-19 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Consider the following: https://youtu.be/WNSCcrfWDEM

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Should You Watch the News? | Philosophy Tube ft. Peter Coffin
The news is often so depressing and tough to watch, but do we have a moral duty to be informed about the world? How can we watch the news responsibly, tellin...
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[02-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I was talking about the people who are worked to the bone for minimal gains who have no mental willpower left to deal with this shit unless they want to go into debt, not be able to eat, go homeless, etc


[02-Feb-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
also, I think this video would've really benefitted from having the covington high school controversy as an example


[02-Feb-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
since it's the perfect example of pretty much every media outlet collectively reporting the wrong thing


[02-Feb-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then I think it might be best to join a local organization, DSA or something to at the least not be in a panic alone, but to at the least organize with others to figure out and campaign for fixes. Bitching online and following the media feed over a Discord chat isn't going to do a lot of good for your mental health.


[02-Feb-19 06:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
That video was made well before Covington.


[02-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
I know, it says so on the page


[02-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's also what I said lol


[02-Feb-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/politics/democrats-call-on-northam-to-resign/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/01/politics/democrats-call-on-northam-to-resign/index.html
Pressure intensifies on Northam to resign as key allies pull their...
Pressure is mounting on Virginia Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam to resign.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190201165929-01-northam-blackface-photo-super-tease.jpg


[02-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-chinese-birth-tourism-targeted-federal-crackdown-20-charged-n965661

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-chinese-birth-tourism-targeted-federal-crackdown-20-charged-n965661
Alleged Chinese birth tourism targeted in federal crackdown, 20 ch...
The charges are called the first federal crackdown on birth tourism businesses that allegedly brought hundreds of pregnant women to the U.S.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_05/2737371/190131-chinese-birth-tourism-2015-ac-904p_eea1da45312abc5fcce9fcbd8eb92566.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[02-Feb-19 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/maduro-regime-said-to-halt-plan-to-ship-20-tons-of-gold-abroad


[02-Feb-19 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
"The embattled Nicolas Maduro regime halted plans to ship 20 tons of Venezuelan gold overseas as a growing international push to ring-fence the country’s dwindling hard assets unnerved those handling the transaction, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter."


[02-Feb-19 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
"The gold bars, which are worth about $850 million, had been weighed and separated in the central bank vaults for transportation, but will not be sent out anytime soon, the person said. The bank has quietly transformed into a microcosm of the crisis: Some staffers, fearful of getting ensnared in U.S. sanctions and worn down by the crippling economic collapse, have begun to disregard orders, prompting senior management to oust them."


[02-Feb-19 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/world/europe/france-rubber-bullets-yellow-vests.html

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By ADAM NOSSITER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/world/europe/france-rubber-bullets-yellow-vests.html
Court in France Upholds Police Use of Golf-Ball-Size Rubber Bullets
The projectiles have caused many injuries, including lost eyes, in the Yellow Vest protests. The police say the weapons are needed to keep the peace.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/02/world/02france-print/02france-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Feb-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted

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https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted
How the IRS Was Gutted — ProPublica
An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20181211-gutting-irs-1200x600.jpg?1549095422


[02-Feb-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[02-Feb-19 04:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-cherokee-dna.html

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By ASTEAD W. HERNDON
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-cherokee-dna.html
Elizabeth Warren Apologizes to Cherokee Nation for DNA Test
The apology comes after repeated calls from tribal leaders, political operatives and her own advisers and relentless mocking by President Trump about her decision to take the DNA test.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/02/us/politics/02warren-apology-promo-copy/02warren-apology-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Feb-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just saw a tv advert for a book about how to dodge taxes liek trump did


[02-Feb-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that book is a scam, and if anyone tries to dodge taxes like trump did they're likely going to prison because the kind of shit only works for people int he tax brackets above $10million


[02-Feb-19 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-general-maduro-guaido-1.5003535

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezuela-general-maduro-guaido-1.5003535
Venezuelan general breaks ranks with Maduro regime, supports Juan ...
A high-ranking Venezuelan air force general says he has disavowed President Nicolas Maduro and now recognizes opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim head-of-state, according to a video circulating on Twitter on Saturday.
https://i.cbc.ca/1.5003536.1549115179!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/gen-francisco-yanez.JPG


[02-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/A7IJYzu.jpg

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[02-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJg1BNULsI4

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Everyone Distrusts Media EXCEPT Democrats, Sounds about right
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[02-Feb-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not admitted: that there's  been a two year rise in opinion of the news


[02-Feb-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how life in india is


[02-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Wonder if you could import it from inhouse or something


[02-Feb-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you might be able to import meds but the shipping would probably be insane


[02-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Inhouse has free shipping though


[02-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Used to get some stuff from there


[02-Feb-19 10:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The shipping would still cost less than the US cost. You can also find a price between the 2 costs on illegal market. Anything that costs less than the minimum is most likely fake.


[02-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Shipping would cost less than even the India cost unless I'm missing something


[02-Feb-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[02-Feb-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt knwo this\


[02-Feb-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neat


[02-Feb-19 10:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US has some bullshit about imports. " US first"


[02-Feb-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it's why on importing foreign snacks ialways try to fidn those large bulk boxes of variety


[02-Feb-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those are great


[02-Feb-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the kinderegg thing is still dumb though


[02-Feb-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they make giant ones, why not just sellt he giant ones in america


[02-Feb-19 10:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Yanks too dumb to not eat the toy.


[02-Feb-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no kid is going to try eating the giant ones whole


[02-Feb-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet soemhow puttign a warning label on their coffee let;s mcdonalds sell lethaly scalding coffee at tempuratures that aren;t legally safe to sell


[02-Feb-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://injury.findlaw.com/product-liability/the-mcdonald-s-coffee-cup-case-separating-mcfacts-from-mcfiction.html

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The McDonald's Coffee Cup Case: Separating McFacts From McFiction ...
A look at the infamous McDonald's hot coffee case, theories of liability, and more. Learn about this and more at FindLaw's Product Liability section.
https://www.findlawimages.com/public/thumbnails_62x62/findlaw_62x62.png


[02-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
McDonald's coffee was served at a temperature between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit. McDonald's had long known that this was 20 to 30 degrees hotter than the coffee served at most other restaurants; in fact, this temperature range was indicated in its operations manual.


[02-Feb-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/YtgnPzb4KlA

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Hbomberguy Live
https://youtu.be/YtgnPzb4KlA
Politics In The Age Of YouTube: Imperial College Talk 2019
LOL GOT THE YEAR WRONG IN THE FIRST SECOND OF THE VIDEO This was a talk hosted at Imperial College London by the Labour Society and Left Forum, run by Ansh B...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YtgnPzb4KlA/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Feb-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I'm a communist, I'm an anarchist, I'm an actor, I want to commit white genocide."


[02-Feb-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[02-Feb-19 10:19 PM] Raptorshy#6268
playing my music in the suuuunn


[03-Feb-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony, not that they're too dumb to not eat the toy, but that it's too easy for a successful lawsuit to happen specifically because someone might eat the toy

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[03-Feb-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
(also, they are sold in the US now, just without the toy I think)


[03-Feb-19 12:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Without the toy it is just an Easter egg outside of easter.


[03-Feb-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well what we got is kinder surprise, which is a toy and a candy cream thing with chocolate cookie bits


[03-Feb-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony, I don't think I've actually bought one before, so idk what's actually in it


[03-Feb-19 12:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's still pretty tasty


[03-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XSFujGafG0

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The Smirk That Launched a Thousand Tweets
On January 18th, 2019, a teenage Caucasian male smiled and the Internet exploded in understandable outrage. This video covers the media storm that ensued fol...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7XSFujGafG0/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
recap of the entire event


[03-Feb-19 01:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0ZY1rVbAQ

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Leftists push INSANE Bill That Allows Executing Babies
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[03-Feb-19 01:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
>americans
>'leftists control the media'
>also americans
>has only right wing political parties, one of which is vaguely socially progressive in a myopic neoliberal way that doesn't help the working class of which especially minorities are poor


[03-Feb-19 01:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
>reee this american media supports the less right wing right wing party, fucking leftists


[03-Feb-19 01:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless one is anticapitalist, they are not a leftist, they are a centrist, center-left if they're a social democrat perhaps at best


[03-Feb-19 01:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
so funilly enough, most 'SJWs' one encounters are not actually left wing as they support capitalism


[03-Feb-19 01:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
though some are


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
but when your left-right wing ideas are well, center = leftists, center-right = centrists and right/far right = right


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
you tend to have a distorted version of politics


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
This guy like what the hell


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
So many ALL CAPS in his titles


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
strong union movements are often leftists, but I don't see any of your parties supporting em lol


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
co-ops


[03-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
Blatantly makes him seem like clickbait


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
And less likely for me to take him seriously


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's what 'le rational skeptic' sphere basically is


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
clickbait outrage


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Rofl


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
often fake outrage


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
like the whole doom eternal outrage 'muh SJWs' thing was fake


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
That's Alex Jones level shit m8


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
totally made up for those sweet clicks


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
$$ cha ching


[03-Feb-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unions were a more left thign that used to be a mpore right thing, old politics is confusing because awhile back american parties had a weird stance shift and the democrats became the republicans while the republicans became the democrats


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
hell, the term red-necks


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was aroudn the time of the civil rights movement


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
comes from 'rednecks' being leftists, socialists, commies


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
Whistleblower uncovers SHOCKING REVELATION about area 51!!


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
unions have never been right wing unless of course they're 'unions', aka: snitch on your coworkers


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
MUST SEE


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
GONE WILD


[03-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@dissociativity false


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because of the neck tan you get/mosquito bites


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From working outside


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Whistleblower UNCOVERS Trump's dirty UNDERwear. This MAN has NO penis!


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
GONE SEXUAL


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
3AM CHALLENGE


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PS4 GIVEAWAY


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's from the time of the coal wars


[03-Feb-19 02:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars

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Coal Wars
The Coal Wars were a series of armed labor conflicts in the United States, roughly between 1890 and 1930. Although they occurred mainly in the East, particularly in Appalachia, there was a significant amount of violence in Colorado after the turn of the century.The Coal Wars ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Coal-creek-war-miners-shooting-tn1.jpg


[03-Feb-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now we barely have unions as it is


[03-Feb-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
uniosn are illegal in my state as it's a *"right to work state"*


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
ouch


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's really fucked up


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
>right to work
>right for porky to stomp you with his boot and you have to suck it up or else
hmmm


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly makes u thonk


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have the "right" to work as logn as you don't try to unionize and compnies have the "right" to fire you ont he spot for no reason at all


[03-Feb-19 02:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm so sorry


[03-Feb-19 02:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_coal_wars
>socialist party supplied workers with weapons

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West Virginia coal wars
The West Virginia coal wars (1912–21), also known as the mine wars, arose out of a dispute between coal companies and miners. The first workers strike, in West Virginia, was the Cabin Creek and Paint Creek strike of 1912-1913. With help from Mary "Mother Jones" Harris Jones...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Miners_with_bomb.jpg


[03-Feb-19 02:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
noice


[03-Feb-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My state had RTW foisted on them by our former shitty governor


[03-Feb-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And we successfully overturned it


[03-Feb-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We don't fucking want it


[03-Feb-19 02:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
tfw american workers won't be absolute CHADS like the coal wars


[03-Feb-19 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm hoping north carolina overturns ours


[03-Feb-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The American consumer wants cheap products and has contempt for workers


[03-Feb-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"B-but my Big Mac will cost more"


[03-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"This is a job for a teenager not a grown man"


[03-Feb-19 02:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
>reee demsocs wanna tax me
>actually only wants to tax every dollar over 10million so it doesn't affect 99% of people, in fact it means they're taxed less


[03-Feb-19 02:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
spooky scary gommunism/socialism boogeyman


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's funny because your entire economy is likely going to collapse this year or next


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"don;t you know? Wanting to own a hosue is dirty communism and shoudl be punishable by death"


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
and this would prevent it


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
because during the time literally everyone could afford to own a nice house in the suburbs and have a family


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
the tax was similar


[03-Feb-19 02:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
and the economy was *gasp* great


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has pretty much seen to it that our economy is goign to collapse


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
think of the poor rich people?


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
they were SUFFERING before trump


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trade tarrifs, tax breaks, the government shut down


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
with all time low taxes because even the dems lower taxes for rich people


[03-Feb-19 02:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
better give them MORE tax breaks


[03-Feb-19 02:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
>votes for two sides of the same capitalist coin while being spooked about >muh leftist media bias


[03-Feb-19 02:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly tinks me dink


[03-Feb-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i voted third party


[03-Feb-19 02:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
good


[03-Feb-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had to vote but I'm not gonna vote myself into a cycle


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
obama, hillary, trump, whoever the fuck comes next they all basically support the same rich capitalist interests


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the "lesserof two evils" is just a dumb excuse


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
bernie would've been /some/ good changes, but the dems even having him was a fluke that they well, overruled back to a billionaire


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
so more out of touch billionaires forever


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
and even then as I said


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
some good changes


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
admittadly i voted jill stein because she tackled an oil worker at a pipeline protest


[03-Feb-19 02:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
he's a lot more spineless than people think


[03-Feb-19 02:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
he even is being spineless about Venezuela


[03-Feb-19 02:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
tweeted support for the right wing fucker that the US government is backing


[03-Feb-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d vote for ocasio cortez but she isnt old enough to run for president


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
there were HUGE pro-maduro rallies the other day too


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
like so many thousands of people, the people largely support their government, the opposition just likes literally hoarding and burning food and toilet paper


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope she doesnt run out of steam


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
and economic sanctions make life way harder


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
I really do too


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
she seems pretty cool now, but people can be jaded and corrupted by that fucked up system you've got going


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[03-Feb-19 02:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
she needs to keep that spine and propose radical solutions


[03-Feb-19 02:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
because our planet is fucking dying


[03-Feb-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope mroe politicians liek her pop up


[03-Feb-19 02:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
we can't afford tiny reforms that do fucking nothing


[03-Feb-19 02:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
worldwide


[03-Feb-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I havent had a job in like 6 years


[03-Feb-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I never reach an interview phase


[03-Feb-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully college can fix that


[03-Feb-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again theverge of economic collapse may wipe out my college


[03-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity, at-will employment is barely any better than right to work though, you're just stuck in an endless loop of part-time jobs that get cut every 5 years


[03-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
sure, you can quit whenever you want, but employers can fire you for literally no reason


[03-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
unless you can prove that you were fired for racist or sexist reasons, you're out of a job at the whim of your employer


[03-Feb-19 06:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM7GFzNN-ek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM7GFzNN-ek
Leftist DEMANDS Coal Miner Photo Removed, Calls It Blackface
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[03-Feb-19 07:19 AM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Feb-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02/politics/ronny-jackson-white-house-chief-medical-adviser/index.html

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Ronny Jackson appointed Trump's chief medical advisor amid Pentago...
The White House announced today that the President's former physician, Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson, will serve as assistant to the President and chief medical advisor.
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[03-Feb-19 07:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/10m4e23fz3g

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https://youtu.be/10m4e23fz3g
The "Intellectuals" of r/gaming
A look at the brave gamers standing up to gamer oppression commited by companies such as EBAD, Badthesda, Microtransactivision and their sjw politics that co...
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[03-Feb-19 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rise up


[03-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Name a more annoying niche political group I dare you


[03-Feb-19 11:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh so EA, Bethesda, and actiblizz aren't ruining games and shouldn't be called out? That's what I'm getting from that


[03-Feb-19 11:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Critiquing giant companies on a shallow basis of the womz and not critiquing giant companies as facets in a larger system of capitalism pursuing the highest dollar by broadening video games beyond the 17% size of the current demographic, as opposed to pursuing a purest form of art and representation by allowing for a more democratic control of the process by the designers to craft the stories and worlds they believe more important.


[03-Feb-19 11:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
HarltonSplimbyWithGlowingEyes.Jpg


[03-Feb-19 11:31 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Feb-19 11:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
LET THE INSANE RUN FREE


[03-Feb-19 11:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
NITW MEMES NOW


[03-Feb-19 11:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE ANIMAL REVOLUTION


[03-Feb-19 11:32 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Feb-19 11:33 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Feb-19 11:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFAjQzZcnc

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Jack Cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFAjQzZcnc
Night in the Woods - Selmers' Def Jam Poetry
Selmers is fuckin woke af
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[03-Feb-19 11:34 AM] Mikey#7286
How about


[03-Feb-19 11:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Time to go burn down San Fran


[03-Feb-19 11:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Criticizing giant companies for pushing predatory practices, microtransactions, loot boxes, untesting your games and pushing it out to release before it was so obviously ready


[03-Feb-19 11:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Etc


[03-Feb-19 11:36 AM] Mikey#7286
And praising the companies that push quality products that still turn a profit


[03-Feb-19 11:37 AM] Mikey#7286
CDPR, Obsidian, Fromsoft, Nintendo etc


[03-Feb-19 11:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao I thought GamerShit was literally atiwomen and shit these days.


[03-Feb-19 11:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I hate microtrans on payed games


[03-Feb-19 11:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it hadn't just rolled over into general anti-capitalism


[03-Feb-19 11:38 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't give a shit about gamergate


[03-Feb-19 11:39 AM] Mikey#7286
I do hate when idiots go like "huhu Witcher 3 is racist cuz deres no black people" etc


[03-Feb-19 11:43 AM] Mikey#7286
And shit like EA putting a handicapped woman in for virtue signaling and not because they actually care about diversity


[03-Feb-19 11:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Again: who literally says that. The premise is an absurd strawman pulled from the corners of Twitter where no one has any influence. Shit like the so-called panic over Doom: Eternal was an artificially created event from a few publications looking to get their clicks from outrage marketing and YouTube shitheels who put all the emphasis on a single tweet as ground zero for the supposed negative reaction for Doom. And given that tweet has an AMAZING number of re-tweet and likes numbering as high as.... 30, it's not like there was a real furor against Machine Games for supposedly making light on immigrants. And given how many left-wing social justice places I'm in these days, I've also never seriously met anyone who holds to the conviction that Witcher 3 is racist because no black or colored people, I've met only one person in the years since and his convictions were still wishy-washy.


[03-Feb-19 11:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
But no one is going to disagree on micro-transactions or worker's treatment in the dev field, hell: even devs are upset at that. The video posted above was more ripping into the people who hold their own conservative identities so far out ahead of themselves they throw a tantrum when a game's cast becomes a little more inclusive.


[03-Feb-19 12:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the whole situation is really only magnified because there's a large, or at least a very loud online contingent of content creators or "journalists" who drive interaction with themselves through blowing up minor controversies. It's the same sort of marketing gimmick as Nike or Gilette, just by other means that are probably far more dishonest, but considered disproportionately more honest than Gilette or Nike because of the format this information comes in.


[03-Feb-19 12:00 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not sure I'd consider yongyea conservative, and he was in that video


[03-Feb-19 12:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah there are dishonest anti-sjw people like the quartering


[03-Feb-19 12:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Conservative in the sense of protecting his identity in the media he plays and not giving ground to any other representation.


[03-Feb-19 12:03 PM] Mikey#7286
And others


[03-Feb-19 12:03 PM] moonatik#3676
holy shit thank you for saying that aaron


[03-Feb-19 12:04 PM] Mikey#7286
He just gives unbiased news on what companies like EA and Bethesda but he's not dishonest or "anti-SJW"


[03-Feb-19 12:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly, y'all need to watch SLA3 more, because the issue at play is more than "brown womz" and more calculated moves to acquire more money because that's what capitalism wants: to drive further profits. Which leads in turn to larger companies doing dumber shit for more profits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TebCHHCw9rY

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CTRL+ALT+DEL | SLA:3
In attempting to go fast, Hareton Splimby suffers a great loss, and must move past it and heal. My Twitter: https://twitter.com/hbomberguy My Patreon: https:...
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[03-Feb-19 12:05 PM] Mikey#7286
If you think he is I'm sorry but you're a fool


[03-Feb-19 12:05 PM] moonatik#3676
seen it my dude


[03-Feb-19 12:06 PM] Mikey#7286
And who cares if he gives no ground to representation?


[03-Feb-19 12:19 PM] Mikey#7286
He also doesn't throw a tantrum when a game becomes inclusive


[03-Feb-19 12:19 PM] Mikey#7286
If you actually watched him then you'd be aware of that


[03-Feb-19 12:51 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-nixon-tattoo/

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FACT CHECK: Does Roger Stone Have a Tattoo of Richard Nixon on His...
A photograph seemingly shows American political consultant and conspiracy theory spreader Roger Stone with an unusual tattoo on his back.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2017/03/roger_stone_nixon_tattoo_fb.jpg?fit=1200,628


[03-Feb-19 12:51 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[03-Feb-19 12:51 PM] Mikey#7286
This is actually real


[03-Feb-19 12:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Roger stone has Nixon on his back


[03-Feb-19 12:51 PM] Mikey#7286
How fitting


[03-Feb-19 12:52 PM] Mikey#7286
A criminal for another criminal in chief has a tattoo of a previous criminal on his back


[03-Feb-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/6XKUtnD.gif

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[03-Feb-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
ＬＯＮＧ　ＬＩＶＥ　ＴＨＥ　ＫＩＮＧ


[03-Feb-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/03/queen-to-be-evacuated-if-brexit-turns-ugly-reports

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Queen to be evacuated if Brexit turns ugly – reports
Cold war plans revived to move royals to safe locations away from London if unrest follows no deal
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[03-Feb-19 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6c1f87aac191eb6090914484539a4b23/tumblr_pm6j7dxwdd1ujinhho1_500.jpg

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[03-Feb-19 05:52 PM] Mikey#7286
"It's so cold where is global warming!?"


[03-Feb-19 05:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Despite the fact that polar vortexes like these are an effect of it


[03-Feb-19 05:54 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2019-02-01/how-is-arctic-warming-linked-to-the-polar-vortex-and-other-extreme-weather/

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How is Arctic Warming Linked to the ‘Polar Vortex’ and Other E...
Research has proposed ways in which rapid Arctic warming can lead to harsh winters, summer heatwaves and even floods and droughts across the mid-latitudes.
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[03-Feb-19 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Feb-19 05:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmfao


[03-Feb-19 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dutch-church-marathon-97-day-mass-armenian-refugee-family-tamrazyan-netherlands/?fbclid=IwAR3zZfqWy-FFR9fH4265l8HlhMhXb5BGcTT8Nx5IH3gpHeA6vAmKRexJIeM

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Dutch church's 97-day marathon Mass wins refugee family a home
Hundreds of clergy volunteered to keep the service going for months, using an obscure law to shield an Armenian family from deportation
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[03-Feb-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-esjDFasPs

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Carla Vila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-esjDFasPs
Southland "The Winds" Clip
Carla Vila as 'Yvette' in Southland
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[03-Feb-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny seeing all the people in the comments saying it's okay to hit kids to "discipline" them


[03-Feb-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
when all the psychological studies point towards any hitting of kids being an ineffective means of discipline with possible long-term psychological damage


[03-Feb-19 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can find anything in YouTube comments on random videos, except for actually sensible leftist policy proposals


[03-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
spending money is bad mmkay


[03-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
you must never spend even a cent on anything


[03-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
especially if it doesn't help you and only you


[03-Feb-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: that discussion about video game politics stuff


[03-Feb-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gonintendo.com/stories/327931-nintendo-q-a-tidbits-female-devs-game-addiction-first-party-g

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Nintendo Q&A tidbits - Female devs, game addiction, first-party ga...
Nintendo Q&A tidbits - Female devs, game addiction, first-party games on track, Miyamoto guiding newcomers, Switch forecast revision, and more
https://gonintendo.com/system/stories/promo_images/000/327/931/original/nice.png?1549219718


[03-Feb-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
-Nintendo feels they've created a good working environment for women who have given birth or have children
- Nintendo reminds everyone that the director of the Animal Crossing is female
- after visiting video game studios in the west, Miyamoto felt the proportion of females working at Nintendo is higher


[03-Feb-19 10:41 PM] Mikey#7286
This is why I love Nintendo


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
They're not perfect


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
But they more than a lot of companies


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They did say very few women work on the hardware side though


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh Nintendo is getting lazier though


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
Not really


[03-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/428277-ice-arrests-rapper-says-he-overstayed-his-visa

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ICE arrests rapper, says he overstayed his visa
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on Sunday arrested Atlanta rapper 21 Savage, alleging that he is from the United Kingdom and overstayed his visa, according to media reports.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/21savage.jpg


[03-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not finishing their games and then giving free DLC


[03-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"free DLC"


[03-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do we even have a visa system for the Anglosphere?


[03-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh oh guys, blakk guy was actually from UK


[03-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, because some UK citizens are blakk


[03-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
"Not finishing games"


[03-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is nothing more to this than race.


[03-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
HA


[03-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kirby Star Allies


[03-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Splatoon 2


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ARMS


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Super Mario Party


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
They literally restarted Prime 4 because it didn't meet their standards


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah here's the thing


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh a few cases


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those four games were good enough for them


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
That's terrible


[03-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine how bad MP4 must have been


[03-Feb-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
metroid prime 4: the other other M


[03-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Mikey#7286
Except I've heard those games are actually good


[03-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) hisssss


[03-Feb-19 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Well now retro is making MP4 so it'll be great


[03-Feb-19 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
And again


[03-Feb-19 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Those are small cases


[03-Feb-19 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
BotW, Mario Oddysey, smash etc


[03-Feb-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how did they not finish arms?


[03-Feb-19 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
All polished she finished games


[03-Feb-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[03-Feb-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most are not though


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
They do a much better job than EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Activision


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Most are


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was reading /v/ shitposting and saw a few things


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
>/v/


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
And you've lost me


[03-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One, Nintendo was upset that Retro did Metroid so well and was upset that Other M was poorly received


[03-Feb-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So 4 was supposed to be a redefinition of the series away from Retro but it was fucked because of a million different studios


[03-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[03-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The way less believable rumor was that the story was completely fucked and focused heavily on making Samus explicitly lesbian


[03-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"She's better than any man I've been with"


[03-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Other M was bad but it was still finished and polished


[03-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah I don't buy that


[03-Feb-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how was arms unfinished?


[03-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Especially from /v/


[03-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Simplistic


[03-Feb-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Feb-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.pcgamer.com/metro-publisher-says-pc-at-heart-of-plans-for-future-of-series-following-boycott-controversy/

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Metro Exodus publisher says PC 'at heart of plans' for future of s...
A 4A Games developer had previously warned that the next Metro might not make it to PC.
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[03-Feb-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking so you're telling me you 100% believe anything from /v/


[03-Feb-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[03-Feb-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Sorry but I'm skeptical


[03-Feb-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
That's what it sounds like, you seem to not doubt what they said


[03-Feb-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That isn't what I meant to portray, I doubt it too


[03-Feb-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
It wasn't really clear


[03-Feb-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Sorry


[03-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[03-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
I was under the impression that Samus is either infertile


[03-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Or


[03-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Asexual


[03-Feb-19 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Feb-19 11:06 PM] Mikey#7286
But anyway, even at their worst, they're still better then EA, Ubisoft, Activision, and Bethesda,


[03-Feb-19 11:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol @Teaspoon


[03-Feb-19 11:07 PM] Mikey#7286
Accurate depiction of his administration


[03-Feb-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's currently 70 degrees here now


[03-Feb-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
On Wednesday it had a wind-chill of -20


[03-Feb-19 11:12 PM] Mikey#7286
it's 52


[03-Feb-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
EA has begun falling appart because entire countries are targetign their lootbox services


[03-Feb-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/68442/ea-to-pull-fifa-in-game-currency-in-belgium/

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EA to pull FIFA in-game currency in Belgium
Publishing giant EA has removed the FIFA points currency from its flagship football franchise in Belgium. In a post on the company's site , EA said that as of January 31st, 2019 (tomorrow), FIFA P...
https://media.pcgamesinsider.biz/2018/10/92687/cristiano-ronaldofifa19cover-r225x225.jpg


[03-Feb-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.legalgamblingandthelaw.com/news/ea-stops-the-sale-of-lootboxes-in-belgium-after-pressure/

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Natalie Whitehead
https://www.legalgamblingandthelaw.com/news/ea-stops-the-sale-of-lootboxes-in-belgium-after-pressure/
EA Stops The Sale Of Lootboxes In Belgium After Pressure
Lootboxes have been a major controversy in Belgium for the last 18 months.
https://www.legalgamblingandthelaw.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/loot-boxes.jpg


[03-Feb-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also several american states going after thme as well


[04-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
>Kirby Star Allies, ARMS, Splatoon 2
>Unfinished

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[04-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[04-Feb-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant tell which one is the parody


[04-Feb-19 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
can't wait til EA is unable to sell Ultimate Team :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)


[04-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Kiryu-Chan come on, Splatoon 2 and Star Allies were unfinished


[04-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least


[04-Feb-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
they weren't filled with game breaking bugs, missing textures, horrible optimization, a bug on new years that broke nukes


[04-Feb-19 01:02 AM] Mikey#7286
seriously, Nintendo's worse is still better than Bethesda's best


[04-Feb-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If that's your basis of quality maybe your standards have slipped


[04-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not having that stuff is like a normal person saying "Well I didn't shit myself all day, so I did great"


[04-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[04-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Mikey#7286
Kirby Star Alles and Splatoon 2 are fully-functional, mostly polished games


[04-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
if slightly rushing a game and having it run slightly worse is your definition of "unfinished" your standards are too high


[04-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
the only issue with Kirby was that it was slightly rushed and ran at 30 as a result


[04-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
if you're talking about DLC


[04-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess every game ever with DLC is "unfinished"


[04-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DLC that should have been in the game, yes


[04-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Mikey#7286
that's entirely subjective


[04-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Mikey#7286
what about BotW's DLC?


[04-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was new shit, not just characters


[04-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
30fps is unacceptable btw


[04-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
it's not optimal but it's not a fucking dealbreaker


[04-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Means a lazy dev


[04-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
or the hardware they had wasn't suited for 60


[04-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
see:BotW


[04-Feb-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
also Zelda's DLC didn't really add anything that couldn't have been in the base game


[04-Feb-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Smash's DLC has 5 new characters


[04-Feb-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
that's unfinished, too then


[04-Feb-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also have stages and balancing and a bunch of other stuff


[04-Feb-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Star Allies was just new Allies


[04-Feb-19 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
ok so what about BotW's 30 fps? Do you think it's unacceptable?


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
open world game, plus the Switch is kind of weak


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ordinarily it would be yes but turns Switch can only do so much


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
i'll give you Kirby


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
because it's a simple 2D platformer


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not an excuse


[04-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
.....


[04-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
I was agreeing with you


[04-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Mikey#7286
as in


[04-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes kirby should have been 60 because it's a 2D platformer


[04-Feb-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
but anyways


[04-Feb-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
i'll reiterate it one more time, Nintendo is still more consistent with quality than most game devs and publishers


[04-Feb-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pUzTvZv

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This
https://i.imgur.com/wScSagbh.jpg


[04-Feb-19 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
😂


[04-Feb-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
"If he would’ve stopped her, and she got one visible bruise, people would’ve been furious with him"


[04-Feb-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
>Once heard a quote from a cop "if she so much as breaks a nail while hitting you, we will arrest you."


[04-Feb-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[04-Feb-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-russia-mueller-cbs-face-the-nation-2019-2

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Trump said 'you have to get rid of' the Russia probe and parroted ...
President Donald Trump unleashed his frustration about the Russia investigation and the special counsel Robert Mueller during a wide-ranging interview on CBS’ “Face The Nation” that aired Sunday.
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[04-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL i'd like to see you try


[04-Feb-19 03:31 AM] illumnious#7938

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[04-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] He also said that it's up to the AG to release the results of the probe


[04-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just says whatever is the last thing he heard on Fox and Friends


[04-Feb-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
that's obviously wrong


[04-Feb-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
congress appointed the special counsel, they get the results of the investigation


[04-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Special counsels are the bane of presidents, who hang their hat on a dissent in a 7-1 case saying they're ok


[04-Feb-19 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
>reee russia


[04-Feb-19 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'd be willing to bet they're just blaming all internal problems in the system on russia at this point


[04-Feb-19 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not crapitalism's fault, it's russias!!!11!!!!1


[04-Feb-19 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
if money didn't matter so much people would hardly be influenced by countries with money anyway


[04-Feb-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
technically, it was capitalism that gave russia an "in" into interfering with US elections to begin with


[04-Feb-19 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup.


[04-Feb-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CZUNd-N1ko

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VaushVidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CZUNd-N1ko
How to TRIGGER Reactionaries with FACTS and LOGIC
Please be critical of me down in the comments below! It's the only way I'll learn. Join me in my Discord to chat and get updates on my work! https://discord....
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[04-Feb-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
this video makes a really good point, a lot of leftists don't actually know how to debate people who throw all debate etiquette and traditions out the window in favor of coming out looking stronger despite having a weaker or even nonexistent argument


[04-Feb-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
because more leftists naturally treat people with a modicum of respect, even if they disagree with them


[04-Feb-19 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Even when leftist do use the same tactics the right throws it back smug liberal elitists or screeching harpies or soyboi cuck and sho on


[04-Feb-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the point of the video is that you dismiss them and anything they say in favor of subtly belittling them without appearing as an aggressor


[04-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
and do everything in your power to trigger them without actually saying "ha ur triggered"


[04-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
because that's exactly what they're trying to do to you


[04-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot harder for leftists to get away with it than conservatives


[04-Feb-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, tl;dw it's a good video for learning to debating people who want to destroy you instead of debate you


[04-Feb-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
that guy who bought this guy a mic is a god


[04-Feb-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The debate doesn't matter


[04-Feb-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
It's about how you come off to the audience


[04-Feb-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
An attack on character, no longer on merit


[04-Feb-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Watch Thank you for Smoking, it's great and has a wonderful scene about exactly that


[04-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], that's what the video's about too, to do it without becoming just as bad as they are


[04-Feb-19 08:58 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[04-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
god, the truth burns so bad


[04-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1091768157990150144

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https://twitter.com/seldo/status/1091768157990150144
A guide for Europeans following American politics, translating common terms:
"Extreme left wing" = center left
"Left wing" = center right
"Moderate" = right wing
"Right wing" = extreme right
"Extreme right wing" = fascists
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[04-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SebAaltonen/status/1092059068288720896

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https://twitter.com/SebAaltonen/status/1092059068288720896
@seldo @repi In Nordic countries (Scandinavia) it’s even more towards left. Right wing here roughly equals left wing in in American politics. Nobody here would ever talk about cutting free heath care or free education (including free top class universities). That would b...
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[04-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that bringing up these countries to conservatives in the US always leads to a deflection about venezuela or the USSR or whatever


[04-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
and if you push the subject, they'll claim they saw so-and-so talking head or such-and-such article claiming that these countries are getting worse or that they're actually somehow doing conservative things which are making them better


[04-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
but never be able to actually source those claims


[04-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
oh, another thing they'll bring up is the immigrants and "no-go zones"


[04-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
but that's only when they're on the offensive, not the defensive


[04-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/943991312570822656

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@Nieuwsuur to new US ambassador: "You mentioned [..] that there are no go-zones in the Netherlands and that cars and politicians are set on fire."

Pete Hoekstra: "I didn't say that. That's actually an incorrect statement [..] fake news."

Hmm, let's have a look at the foo...
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[04-Feb-19 03:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow i love the excuses the pro-Trumpians came with in the reply feed


[04-Feb-19 03:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"But muh Hayaan Hirsi Ali"


[04-Feb-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/BL829Uf2lzI

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vlogbrothers
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We Have Destroyed Copyright Law
The internet destroyed copyright law and we have not re-built. Instead of laws and courts we now have claims and disputes. YouTube in particular has placed i...
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[04-Feb-19 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/americas/venezuela-juan-guaido.html

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By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/americas/venezuela-juan-guaido.html
European Countries Recognize Guaidó as Venezuela’s Leader, Join...
Germany, France, Britain and Spain are among the latest to throw their support to Mr. Guaidó, calling President Nicolás Maduro’s leadership illegitimate.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/05/world/05venez-europe3/05venez-europe3-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Feb-19 07:10 PM] Honahue#0656
Remove copyright laws


[04-Feb-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[04-Feb-19 07:12 PM] Honahue#0656
I've heard capitalist arguments for it too, the fashion industry works without patents about the only thing that can be copyrighted is a logo and they function fine


[04-Feb-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
obviously they aren't "true" capitalists


[04-Feb-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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No true Scotsman
No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample. Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the ...


[04-Feb-19 07:12 PM] Honahue#0656
Lol


[04-Feb-19 07:13 PM] Honahue#0656
By some definitions they are the most capitalist because there's no state to ensure a monopoly


[04-Feb-19 07:13 PM] Honahue#0656
That's the AnCap position anyway


[04-Feb-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
most anarcho-capitalist conservatives will vehemently deny they're anarcho-capitalist because they think it's the same thing as anarchy


[04-Feb-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
not understanding that this unregulated, truly free market ideal they long for is just as tyranical as any authoritarian socialist state


[04-Feb-19 07:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Well it's also predicted on a lie, they think the only barrier to entry into a market is the high cost of government regulation and removing that barrier will bring markets to the state of perfect competition or closer to it anyway


[04-Feb-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2019/2/1/18205428/virginia-abortion-bill-kathy-tran-ralph-northam

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The controversy around Virginia’s new abortion bill, explained
Confusing comments by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam have fed a firestorm around the new bill.
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[04-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RoozXyqr1Y

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RoozXyqr1Y
Leftist Celebrities And Media Face MASSIVE Covington Lawsuit
Leftist Media And Celebrities Face MASSIVE Covington Catholic High School Lawsuit. The lawyers representing Nick Sandmann have sent over 50 letters as the fi...
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[04-Feb-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO6uD3c2qMo

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Philosophy Tube
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Steve Bannon | Philosophy Tube
Alternate title - Why Do We Build the Wall? Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/PhilosophyTube Subscribe! http://tinyurl.com/pr99a46 Paypal.me/PhilosophyTube Wan...
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[04-Feb-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
E V O L A    T I M E


[04-Feb-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw that Super Saiyan Evola joke.


[04-Feb-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I'm not a fascist, I'm a SUPER FASCIST! YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE TO REALIZE THE LEGEND, KAKAROT!" -Julius Evola at his trial


[05-Feb-19 12:32 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/ERMtBEgk9ls

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Ghost immigrants: Paying for Canadian citizenship - The Fifth Estate
Immigration consultant Sunny Wang orchestrated one of the largest immigration scams in Canadian history. The twist in this tale isn’t that the people were tr...
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[05-Feb-19 03:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Feb-19 03:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Happy new year everyone!


[05-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/us/politics/trump-inaugural-committee-subpoena.html

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By MAGGIE HABERMAN and BEN PROTESS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/us/politics/trump-inaugural-committee-subpoena.html
Trump Inaugural Committee Ordered to Hand Over Documents to Federa...
Prosecutors in Manhattan demanded documents about the committee’s donors, including whether it received illegal foreign donations.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/05/us/politics/05dc-inauguration/05dc-inauguration-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqSpXbxt_kg

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HS Debaters Lose Round for Quoting Shapiro/Peterson | ‘White Sup...
Support my channel: http://www.mattchristiansenmedia.com/support Contact/social media: Email: matt@mattchristiansenmedia.com Website: http://www.mattchristia...
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[05-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
I wish I could enjoy playing the victim that much


[05-Feb-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boy-who-bullied-because-he-s-named-trump-among-white-n966876

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Boy who is bullied because he's named Trump among White House gues...
"Unfortunately, Joshua has been bullied in school due to his last name," the White House said of the 6th-grader from Delaware.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_06/2741336/190204-donald-trump-melania-trump-ac-825p_a2841362fc83f03e205a8cc8c13b2327.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[05-Feb-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
is it that he's being bullied because his last name is trump, or that his last name is being used to bully him


[05-Feb-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
because 90% of the time, bullying isn't about what they're being bullied with, that's just ammunition


[05-Feb-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
public schools enable bullying, it's up to the school to stop it but don't


[05-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/us/politics/medicare-for-all-2020.html

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By JONATHAN MARTIN and ABBY GOODNOUGH
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/02/us/politics/medicare-for-all-2020.html
Medicare for All Emerges as Early Policy Test for 2020 Democrats
Many liberals who are influential in the presidential primaries want a single-payer system, but some voters are uneasy about losing private insurance. Most candidates are now walking fine lines.
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[05-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
uh, the easy answer is "no"


[05-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
you don't need to get rid of private healthcare in order to have single-payer healthcare


[05-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
that's not how it works


[05-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
you could get rid of private healthcare altogether, but that would be socialism


[05-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
the easier and much more palatable option is to have single-payer public healthcare that also subsidizes private healthcare, but only if they keep their prices within a certain range to qualify for those subsidies


[05-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
that's what happens in all european countries with single-payer


[05-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[05-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
well, at least in the UK, idk about every country in europe, but I highly doubt private healthcare isn't allowed in most EU countries since the EU as a whole is capitalist


[05-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
in the UK, the NHS is single-payer, but you can still get private healthcare, it just expedites certain procedures (like scans and imaging) by getting access to privately owned equipment


[05-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
and that private healthcare is subsidized by taxpayers as well


[05-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
the main reason why this is a debate at all is because the healthcare companies and pharmaceutical companies make obscenely large amounts of money because there is no single-payer to force prices down


[05-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
if single-payer becomes a thing, private healthcare would lose their absurd profit margins, and those profit margins produce so much extra cash floating around that they just dump it all into bribing politicians into not voting for it


[05-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
and the thing is that even with single-payer, private healthcare will still be making profits


[05-Feb-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could still have private options as does exist in the UK or Canada, but as I understand the situation those are very small parts of the healthcare scheme where everything is provided for free from the federal government. The difference between the private healthcare of those countries there vs here as I've heard it is to just add a few small options not included by the public option. Or as Chapo Trap House joked in their latest episode: they're the difference between having Netflix in the hospital room or not.


[05-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
I used to talk to a guy who lives in the UK, he said he paid about 60 euros a month extra for access to privately owned equipment next day for any reason


[05-Feb-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/76b2414a6c024c42b1142c1dbed59b9e

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Federal prosecutors subpoena Trump's inaugural committee
NEW YORK (AP) — Federal prosecutors in New York issued a subpoena Monday seeking documents from Donald Trump's inaugural committee, furthering a federal inquiry into a fund that has faced mounting scrutiny into how it raised and spent its money. Inaugural committee spokeswo...
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[05-Feb-19 12:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
TFW you read conversation for five minutes misreading "single-payer" as "single-player"


[05-Feb-19 12:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:depressed:


[05-Feb-19 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
single-player healthcare sounds more like our current system


[05-Feb-19 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1092807525102247938?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1092807525102247938?s=21
I see Schumer is already criticizing my State of the Union speech, even though he hasn’t seen it yet. He’s just upset that he didn’t win the Senate, after spending a fortune, like he thought he would. Too bad we weren’t given more credit for the Senate win by the m...
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[05-Feb-19 04:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh shit https://goo.gl/BeKM72

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State of the Union - YouTube
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[05-Feb-19 08:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1092807628147879939?s=21

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https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1092807628147879939?s=21
Fox, apoplectic over its own polling showing wide public support for @AOC and @ewarren's wealth tax proposals, literally blames the fact that schools teach kids to be fair: 

"The idea of fairness has been promoted in our schools for a long time." https://t.co/GowAZWYWpZ
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[05-Feb-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Scary!


[05-Feb-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[05-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://i2.wp.com/interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png

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[05-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
rofl http://culturalorganizing.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/The4thPanel_Kit.jpg

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[05-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
third one is classic liberterian


[05-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
remove all barriers so people can get hit with baseballs all day long


[05-Feb-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/833/0*N5dyrbSWnJqOuaXo.

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[05-Feb-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
is this loss


[05-Feb-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56d9cbd420c647c7373d4d82/t/5a0c81334192028d4aa0a237/1510768953307/ajAerM1_700b_v2.jpg

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[05-Feb-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
ironically, the third one is almost as bad as the first one


[05-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
in the second one, each person has the ability to climb the barrier on their own, but the third one only gives the illusion of a chance to the shorter ones


[05-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
while also barring the tallest one from being able to easily climb the fence


[05-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
tbh, the third one is the most representative of modern day, everyone feels like they could just reach out and take their place as a millionaire when they actually can't


[05-Feb-19 08:30 PM] ononim#8141
I just throw it there what if all three of them sheded their bodies of flesh and ascended and joined the rankes of the great old ones...


[05-Feb-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/05/politics/sotu-photo-comparison-2017-2019/index.html

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The incredible turnover in Trump's Cabinet in 1 photo
When President Donald Trump delivers his second official State of the Union address he'll be speaking to a very different audience. Democrat Nancy Pelosi, the newly elevated House speaker, will be behind him; a new Democratic majority, the most diverse Congress in history, wi...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190205090942-20190205-state-of-the-union-missing-cabinet-members-static-unlabeled-super-tease.jpg


[05-Feb-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/france-fires-nuclear-capable-missile-during-inf-row-with-russia-us-2019-2

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France fires nuclear-capable missile in a rare show as Russia and ...
France fired off a nuclear-capable missile from a fighter after the INF treaty that formed the cornerstone of European nuclear security collapsed.
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[05-Feb-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who play fair are monsters of the worst kind!


[05-Feb-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.10tv.com/article/trump-campaign-takes-steps-prevent-challenge-within-gop

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Trump campaign takes steps to prevent a challenge within GOP
Worried about a potential Republican primary challenge, President Donald Trump's campaign has launched a state-by-state effort to prevent an intraparty fight that could spill over into the general-election campaign.
https://www.10tv.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image/public/trumpwv11218.jpg?itok=pJMK1xjt


[05-Feb-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump is so inconfident in his chances in 2020, he;s actively settign otu to sabotage any republican challengers to his throne


[05-Feb-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Worried about a potential Republican primary challenge, President Donald Trump's campaign has launched a state-by-state effort to prevent an intraparty fight that could spill over into the general-election campaign.

The nascent initiative has been an intense focus in recent weeks and includes taking steps to change state party rules, crowd out potential rivals and quell any early signs of opposition that could embarrass the president.

It is an acknowledgement that President Trump, who effectively hijacked the Republican Party in 2016, hasn't completely cemented his grip on the GOP and, in any event, is not likely to coast to the 2020 GOP nomination without some form of opposition. While any primary challenge would almost certainly be unsuccessful, President Trump's aides are looking to prevent a repeat of the convention discord that highlighted the electoral weaknesses of Presidents George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter in their failed re-election campaigns.

To defend against that prospect, President Trump's campaign has deployed what it calls an unprecedented effort to monitor and influence local party operations. It has used endorsements, lobbying and rule changes to increase the likelihood that only loyal Trump activists make it to the Republican nominating convention in August 2020.


[05-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
this is really creepy, it's like a reverse nixon


[05-Feb-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
like big brother almost


[05-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
instead of wanting to listen in on democrats, he wants to make sure that republicans aren't having "bad thoughts" about him


[05-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chuck-grassley-expects-mueller-report-in-a-month-based-on-rumors/

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Grassley cites "rumors" for belief Mueller's findings will be rele...
The former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said he hopes the special counsel wraps up soon
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[05-Feb-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump runs on pure vanity. so instead of trying to keep democrats misinformed he tries to keep his voters blinded


[05-Feb-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can;t stand losing, he cant stand looking bad, and he cant stand trash talk.  He hasn't really done much as president but he props up this imaginary legacy that did more in 2 years than obama did in 8. The only policies he;s really passed as an insane tax cut bill, and repeals to things obama did, economy killing trade tarrifs, backing us out of several treaties keeping us out of war,  and lifting sanctions on countries that shouldnt have their sanctions lifted


[05-Feb-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest of the time was spent golfing and holdign the government hostage


[05-Feb-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and tweeting


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.mp4

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Woke...
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[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't do that please


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even close


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a shitpost


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Relax


[05-Feb-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
don't do it

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[05-Feb-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
when you want to come

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[05-Feb-19 10:14 PM] Mikey#7286
"He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday."


[05-Feb-19 10:14 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah he's trying to pull an erdogan putin...


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
I know caws


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Literally Trump said that


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
I have the greatest caws


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
what an idiot


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
you know it, everybody knows it


[05-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[05-Feb-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for trump is unliek putin he;s a moron who didnt coems form any form of background condusive to ebcoming a dictator


[05-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[05-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Putin was KGB


[05-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Low-rank KGB but still


[05-Feb-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly he was int he right position to pull shit off even before becoming leader


[05-Feb-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
More like the oligarchs and military leaders post-Yeltsin figured him a useful figure.


[05-Feb-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumps past elgal experience is dealign with money bribed judges who took his side because he paid them. as president he cant do that and his shutdown has made thme less likely to take his side as their funding runs dry


[05-Feb-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that his sister is being investigated for multiple conflicts of interest because trump got elected


[05-Feb-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
(she's a federal judge in new york)


[05-Feb-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also that


[05-Feb-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his election likely screwed over an entire branch of judicial under table dealings


[05-Feb-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry#Tax_problems

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Maryanne Trump Barry
Maryanne Trump Barry (born April 5, 1937) is an American attorney and an inactive Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. She is an older sister of Donald Trump, the 45th and current president of the United States.
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[05-Feb-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck even his inaugeral fudning is now under investigation


[05-Feb-19 10:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTTzA9yrZW4

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Joanna Hausmann is lying about Venezuela
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[05-Feb-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who?


[05-Feb-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-times-financial-investigation-trump-raises-questions-about-his-sister-n916236

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Trump's sister in spotlight after NY Times' investigation of famil...
Analysis: Maryanne Trump Barry, an inactive federal judge, is mentioned throughout the report, which uncovered questionable tax schemes.
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[05-Feb-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIdz6BEFC0M

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Дональд Трамп на встрече с правител...
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[05-Feb-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trumps are a royal mudfuck of a family whose likely nail is their moron of a son


[06-Feb-19 01:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Whose watching the state of the union tonight?


[06-Feb-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not. I cant listen to trump talk, it gives me the urge to break my face


[06-Feb-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would give me the urge to break *his* face, but that's out of my hands


[06-Feb-19 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Litrojia#0612
One of these days, Trump is gonna throw a *)* at the end of one of his tweets and end the Russia debate once and for all


[06-Feb-19 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYU5VE2c6Ps&t=0s&index=2&list=PL3ZQ5CpNulQljQvicyNLvB6E6aRUNGbnu

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The White House
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President Trump Delivers the State of the Union Address
Washington, D.C.
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[06-Feb-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's economic plan can best be described by yelling "REBUILD THE ECONOMY, TEAR IT TO THE GROUND!!!"


[06-Feb-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Huh, weird. I expected to come in here and find this place on fire right now


[06-Feb-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are probably still watching it if it's still on


[06-Feb-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's over. So's the democratic response, even


[06-Feb-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[06-Feb-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything trump said in his address was contradictory to itself


[06-Feb-19 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was keeping a running tally of keywords - didn't make a drinking game because I didn't really feel like alcohol poisoning, but I just want to take note that Trump used the specific words "wall" or "border" 33 times by my count


[06-Feb-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought it would be atleast an even 50


[06-Feb-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
by comparison, the word "jobs" came up a grand total of 11 times


[06-Feb-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yeah, there were plenty of mentions of border security that didn't get a tally because it was just looking for those particular words


[06-Feb-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we need to fix our economy by murdering it thoroughly"


[06-Feb-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now look at these cancer kids"


[06-Feb-19 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a bit hard to take the plea against cancer seriously when he's only promising $50 million a year for research while demanding a $5bill border wall


[06-Feb-19 05:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
50 mil is still a lot. keep in mind a lot of other organizations also help fund cancer research as well.


[06-Feb-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is a lot,but given this is also trump will they ever actually see the money?


[06-Feb-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's gonna solve AIDS in ten years you guys, just you watch


[06-Feb-19 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, all the talk about deregulation has prompted me to write a short, satirical dramatization of how deregulation works in the US. Do not take this too seriously.


[06-Feb-19 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
R: I hate traffic cones. Get rid of all traffic cones.
D: I dunno those are pretty useful
R: Look at this one, it was left on the side of the road after an accident and now it's been run over a million times. It's not doing anything anymore
D: Granted, we don't need that one, but some-
R: AND THIS ONE! Has been sitting here for months!
D: It's in a pothole five inches deep. We still need that. If you remove it you're gonna have to put something in its place
R: No! Just get rid of it!
D: Can we at least get a road crew out to patch the pothole?
R: NO!! Road work is the leading cause of ***T R A F F I C  C O N E S***


[06-Feb-19 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/-always-been-dirty-nearly-every-organization-associated-with-trump-under-investigation-1437786691710

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‘Always been dirty’: Nearly every organization associated with...
WaPo’s Phil Rucker, former US attorney Harry Litman, MSNBC analyst Elise Jordan, and Donny Deutsch on the subpoenas served to Trump’s inaugural committee from the Southern District of New York
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[06-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw6mszxVEjw

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LIVE: President Trump 2019 State of the Union Address & Democratic...
President Trump delivers 2019 State of the Union Address before a Joint Session of Congress. https://cs.pn/2HV5POH Stacey Abrams delivers the Democratic Resp...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fw6mszxVEjw/hqdefault.jpg


[06-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the full thing for those that didn't see it live


[06-Feb-19 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw part of it live and that's abotu what i expected


[06-Feb-19 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/someone-in-this-room-tonight-will-be-murdered-by-an-il-1832370781 he didnt say this but he probably would have

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‘Someone In This Room Tonight Will Be Murdered By An Illegal Imm...
The Onion – America’s Finest News Source
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[06-Feb-19 12:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/V3TT1VE8Jq0

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[06-Feb-19 06:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring admits he wore blackface https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/virginia-attorney-general-admits-he-wore-blackface-n968391

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Virginia Attorney General admits he wore blackface
The news comes after blackface admission by Gov. Ralph Northam and sex assault allegation against Lt. Gov Justin Fairfax
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[06-Feb-19 06:44 PM] Yuri#4154

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[06-Feb-19 08:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"I wonder what the special place in hell is like for those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan to carry it out safely"-Donald Tusk in a news statement

BBC reports as "there is a special place in hell for Brexiteers" "warns Brexiteers that there is a special place in hell for them"

Parliament house leader "he should apologize for the ***tweet***"

What he said did not need to be reworded as he was speaking English it was in news statement not a tweet.


[06-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What happened after Brexit?


[06-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Yuri#4154
>after
lol it still hadn't happened


[06-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
People tell how it is bad but I have no idea what is.


[06-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh?


[06-Feb-19 08:47 PM] Yuri#4154
If nothing changes, it'll happen in March iirc


[06-Feb-19 08:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But what disastrous changes everyone talk about would follow?


[06-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Yuri#4154
If there isn't a deal


[06-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Yuri#4154
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/what-no-deal-brexit-what-13419829.amp

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What No Deal Brexit really means - 21 ways it will affect your life
The UK is due to leave the EU on 29 March 2019 - and No Deal Brexit is becoming a bigger threat. We've looked at 21 ways it would affect your everyday life
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[06-Feb-19 08:58 PM] DevField#5162
We get to do more military cosplays?

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[06-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Yuri#4154
I wish


[06-Feb-19 09:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@DevField

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[06-Feb-19 09:03 PM] DevField#5162
*The world is coming to an end*


[06-Feb-19 09:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes, and

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[06-Feb-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/06/ralph-northam-blackface-virginia-racism-resign-analysis-224724

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How Society Uses Politics to Decide What’s Racist
The reaction to Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam’s past use of blackface shows how racism gets defined by politics, not morality. Is that a good thing?
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[06-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
"Northam’s decades-old racist behavior does not inherently suggest he lacks the moral acuity to govern now. If he is to be taken at his word—that he is not racist, ardently supports civil rights and is genuinely horrified by his past attitudes and actions—then his growth and maturation could be seen as evidence of his fitness for office."


[06-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
This change is good however

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[06-Feb-19 09:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Yup


[06-Feb-19 09:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And the one about caviar, I think?


[06-Feb-19 09:07 PM] Yuri#4154
Tbh that'd probably be the only change rich people would care about


[06-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Caviar is overpriced imo.
It tastes like a fish.


[06-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Yuri#4154
I really hope a No Deal doesn't happen, but at this point I don't trust the Tory government to not somehow fuck this up


[06-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
"But whether or not Northam resigns, let’s have no illusion: It will be the result of intense political calculation rather than the result of a soul-bending journey for moral repair and racial reconciliation."


[06-Feb-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
the UK's government is playing chicken with their own economy


[06-Feb-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
they're basically doing the same thing that trump was doing with the shutdown


[06-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
they're also doing the same thing that mitch mcconnell was doing with the senate


[06-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Yuri#4154
I really want to move to Canada or one of the Scandinavian countries in the next few years


[06-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like  the cold weather?


[06-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
refusing to let anything that could possibly overturn trump's veto come to the table (same as the UK's government not allowing another referendum)


[06-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Yuri#4154
We have plenty of that in the UK @Stoopedhooy


[06-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
it turns out conservatives act the same no matter which country they're in


[06-Feb-19 09:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Yuri 

Canada probably is drier?


[06-Feb-19 09:14 PM] Yuri#4154
And (hopefully) has a less shit government


[06-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, also weed


[06-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Yes


[06-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:NUT:🚬


[06-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Yuri#4154
At this point I don't even trust Corbyn to not be terrible


[06-Feb-19 09:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I remember reading about corrupt politicians there as well.
Probably they are same everywhere.


[06-Feb-19 09:39 PM] Yuri#4154
@Mikey one of his lovely comics

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[06-Feb-19 09:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Wut


[06-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Yuri#4154
It's not edited


[06-Feb-19 09:46 PM] Mikey#7286
:TwiCrazy:


[06-Feb-19 09:48 PM] Yuri#4154
There's also this one

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[06-Feb-19 09:49 PM] Yuri#4154
Guy's fucked up


[06-Feb-19 09:49 PM] Yuri#4154
Now I gotta delete these from my phone


[06-Feb-19 09:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Wtf


[06-Feb-19 09:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Overton window?


[06-Feb-19 09:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also, I want that 4 panel uncropped


[06-Feb-19 09:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:NUT:


[06-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Yuri#4154
FBI


[06-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Yuri#4154
OPEN UP


[06-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why you harass FBI?

@Yuri


[06-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Yuri#4154
Because they took away my lo- I mean, no reason


[06-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Yuri 

By the way, it happens when talented people have some opinions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_controversies

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Wagner controversies
The German composer Richard Wagner was a controversial figure during his lifetime, and has continued to be so after his death. Even today he is associated in the minds of many with Nazism and his operas are often thought to extol the virtues of German nationalism. The writer ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/RichardWagner.jpg/1200px-RichardWagner.jpg


[06-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Yuri wow... i never realized right-wing humour was so damn lame


[06-Feb-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either cheap shock humour or passive-aggressive faux-tolerance peddling


[06-Feb-19 09:58 PM] Yuri#4154
It sucks because I kinda like the art style. If the guy wasn't such a huge asshole he could've made some great comics


[06-Feb-19 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The day i discovered leftism can also be edgy (and a hundred times better at that) i felt relieved tbh


[06-Feb-19 10:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm also genuinely happy that mainstream meme culture now has the balls to mock people like Ben Shapiro


[06-Feb-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Feb-19 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[06-Feb-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Feb-19 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.redd.it/azhdpe9n0ks11.jpg
Accidentally Woke Stonetoss

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[06-Feb-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's gonna slip up one day when he's a professional cartoonist


[06-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And people will be able to tell


[06-Feb-19 10:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Itsthinking 

Depends on the contractor?


[06-Feb-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's noticable


[06-Feb-19 10:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Itsthinking 

I mean that not everyone care about that?


[06-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Having someone infamous for an openly racist comic on a cartoon?


[06-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, I'm remembering what The Loud House started out as


[06-Feb-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Inb4 completely safe Stonetoss style kids show with no racism etc


[06-Feb-19 10:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They are edgy, yes

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[06-Feb-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh weird


[06-Feb-19 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Honestly, I saw some people who would like that kind of shit.


[06-Feb-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe he can't pick up social cues


[06-Feb-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't need to say everything


[06-Feb-19 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well... at least it's not Ben "Trump-as-god cultist" Garrisson...


[06-Feb-19 10:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[06-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is fucking loss isn't it


[06-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
i


[06-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
Ii


[06-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
II


[06-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
I_


[06-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[06-Feb-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this twi?


[06-Feb-19 11:10 PM] Mikey#7286
:TwiExcited2:


[06-Feb-19 11:20 PM] DevField#5162
:noseboop:


[07-Feb-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qcccZy03s

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Jihad193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8qcccZy03s
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Adam Savage from Mythbusters. His semi-famous quote: "I reject your reality and substitute my own."
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W8qcccZy03s/hqdefault.jpg


[07-Feb-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
god, I just realized how this line has gone from being a joke to being an example of poe's law in the past 3 years


[07-Feb-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
based off of my exchange in #art-sharing with draco


[07-Feb-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411683462328745996/542874469643976704/k70wcsp8mte21.png

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[07-Feb-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
S H O R T P I R O


[07-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Well. With trump wanting to pass legislation to prohibit late term abortion, the amount of people complaining has gone up


[07-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
the only time "late-term" abortion happens is when the mother's at serious risk of death


[07-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
no one does an abortion a week before the due date and discards the baby because they decided they didn't feel like having a child anymore


[07-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
which is what all the conservatives are screaming about


[07-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
the only reasons late-term abortions happen is because there's either something wrong with the baby (high chance of death or permanent physical and mental damage to the point of being vegetative), or because the mother will literally die if she tries to give birth to the baby (and possibly even have the baby itself die in the birth as well)


[07-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
when late-term abortion has a high chance at saving a life versus a moderate chance of losing two lives without the abortion, doctors will always recommend the late-term abortion


[07-Feb-19 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
https://cna.asia/2HTwfjt

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Nancy Pelosi's 'sarcastic' applause for Trump births #PelosiClap meme
Pelosi says she wasn't being sarcastic, but even her daughter recognised that expression:
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[07-Feb-19 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Wut

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[07-Feb-19 05:15 AM] illumnious#7938

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[07-Feb-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
M'House


[07-Feb-19 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938

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[07-Feb-19 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
Where can I buy the shirt


[07-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Honahue#0656
That'll show Trump, a n g e r y c l a p


[07-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Eb4KVw4nE

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Eb4KVw4nE
What Angela Merkel's exit means for Germany — and Europe
The European Union is about to lose one of its last anti-populist voices. This video is presented by CuriosityStream: https://www.curiositystream.com/Vox Hel...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q7Eb4KVw4nE/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Feb-19 10:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/u7VKqtcCkB0

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Eastern Marsh Lands
https://youtu.be/u7VKqtcCkB0
AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY - State of The Union 2019
Some thoughts on State of The Union 2019. #communism #capitalism #liberalism #leftist #leftistpodcast #newsandpolitics AUDIO RSP SoundCloud link: https://sou...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u7VKqtcCkB0/hqdefault.jpg


[07-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@baxleyjames/the-homeless-are-lazy-bums-so-i-used-to-think-f911dedc4cc5

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1 out of 3 Americans are 1 Paycheck away from being Homeless
You see these people everyday: the homeless man with the shopping cart piled high with who-knows-what, the man who’s panhandling on the…
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*VBsQTopyuOTxeV0howhZPA.jpeg


[07-Feb-19 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-65-how-empire-uses

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Citations Needed Podcast
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Episode 65: How Empire Uses ‘Feminist’ Branding to Sell War an...
Since the dawn of the American Empire, thin moral pretexts in our politics and press have been used to justify our wars and conquest. The invasion of Cuba and Philippines in 1898 was declared to be a
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000484273527-ch1ta0-t500x500.jpg


[07-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder what people who have personally experienced the great depression first-hand would say about the current economy


[07-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
it seems that socialism has somehow managed to find a much stronger foothold over the past 30-40 years or so than before, but I wonder how much of that is people actually supporting the weakening of capitalism and those who just don't know what exactly socialism is but recognize that the conservatives call everyone left of center a socialist, so it obviously can't be that bad


[07-Feb-19 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1093489029780332545?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1093489029780332545?s=21
PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT! It should never be allowed to happen again!
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[07-Feb-19 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
snowflake alert


[07-Feb-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RyanHillMI/status/1093489998815522816

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Ryan Hill (@RyanHillMI)
https://twitter.com/RyanHillMI/status/1093489998815522816
@realDonaldTrump I BELIEVE THEY CALL THIS 

P R E S I D E N T I A L

H A R A S S M E N T

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Twitter


[07-Feb-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
apparently he recanted his admission that he did actually say "grab em by the pussy" and said it was fake news the next year


[07-Feb-19 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-conservative-culture-transition-to-become-more-liberal-and-progressive

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How can a conservative culture transition to become more liberal a...
I have a nine point plan that should help. 1. Raise the taxes of the people who employ them and make trade deals that favor foreign labor; that way you can cut down the number of blue collar jobs available. Basically, you need to make the cost of ...


[07-Feb-19 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
rich CEO blames democrats for jobs leaving the US when it's conservative economics (neoliberalism is economically conservative) to move blue collar jobs out of the US


[07-Feb-19 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
>Infiltrate the education system, both at the K-12 and college level. Focus on silly things like philosophy, gender studies, and other interesting but ultimately useless choices instead of stuff that will help them get jobs or real-life skills.


[07-Feb-19 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
>devote your life to making money or you're a useless waste of space


[07-Feb-19 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
>doesn't realize that these "useless" choices subsidize the "useful" classes


[07-Feb-19 04:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Let’s give a big round applause for fucked up Trump https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1093529884104843265?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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2019 National Prayer Breakfast https://t.co/cKvv3ygOOt
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[07-Feb-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Illegal


[07-Feb-19 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.alternet.org/2019/02/fox-news-judicial-analyst-shoots-down-hosts-suggestion-trump-should-investigate-his-political-enemies/

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Fox News judicial analyst shoots down hosts suggestion Trump shoul...
As House Democrats gear up to continue investigating President Donald Trump's ties to Russia and pass along all their interview transcripts to special counsel Robert Mueller, Trump's defenders on Fox News are furious.

On "Fox & Friends" Thursday, co-anchor Brian Kilmeade ask...
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[07-Feb-19 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2019/02/07/trump-says-democrats-investigating-him-is-presidential-harassment-hes-called-least-investigations-his-opponents/#click=https://t.co/SX9FkS7Orj


[07-Feb-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/07/robert-muellers-probe-almost-done-congress-ask-matt-whitaker/2796118002/

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Congress has lots of questions for Matthew Whitaker, but first a n...
Acting attorney general will testify before Congress for the first – and likely only – time Friday. Lawmakers have plenty of Russia probe questions.
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[07-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-prayer-breakfast-speech-abolition-civil-rights-today-video-a8768101.html

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Trump says one of America's greatest accomplishments is the ‘abo...
‘Many of our greatest strides, from gaining our independence to abolition of civil rights ... have been led by people of faith’
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[07-Feb-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
gaffe


[07-Feb-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
it's obviously not what he meant to say, it's just funny because it means what he is actually thinking


[07-Feb-19 08:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck Trump


[07-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
apparently there's a $2.3 billion deficit in new york state this year


[07-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
the reasonable people blame it on the trump tax bill which made it so that people can't very much of their state and local taxes from their federal taxes


[07-Feb-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
the republicans blame it on high taxes in new york state


[07-Feb-19 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a contradiction


[07-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
not really, they're both technically correct, but it's only a problem because of the tax bill


[07-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
supposedly rich people are moving out of new york state due to the tax deduction cuts


[07-Feb-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
which actually hurts blue states with higher taxes


[07-Feb-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47163940

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Bolsonaro has pneumonia, hospital says
The Brazilian leader has been in hospital since an operation last week to reverse a colostomy.
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[07-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
wow

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[07-Feb-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Plz commit not exist


[07-Feb-19 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow jesus, all the conservs peddling in the quora thread


[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One guy saying conservatism is "based on analyzing historical experiences and results", as if leftism doesn't do exactly that, and much better


[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also


[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
social conservatism has a vested interest in denying historical experience


[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmaooooo


[07-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
because social conservatives __**HATE**__ social changes


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They did not support MLK back in the day


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They did not support LGBT's back in the 80's


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
opposed women's sufferage


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How can we ever expect them to abide by an ethical standard of observance


[07-Feb-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're just people who are scared of change, nothing else


[07-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
opposed the removal of slavery


[07-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
it isn't about not supporting


[07-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
centrists are the ones who don't support


[07-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
social conservatives are the ones who oppose


[07-Feb-19 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[07-Feb-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus, Quora is so full of these dummies


[07-Feb-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I once saw someone on Quora who was an anti-feminist furry


[07-Feb-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I say this with seriousness


[07-Feb-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**An anti-feminist furry**

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[07-Feb-19 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She peddled for "sex synergy" or "for each of the two genders to complement eachother" or whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean


[07-Feb-19 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What next? Nazi bronies?


[07-Feb-19 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh wait, nvm


[07-Feb-19 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These exist


[08-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/almost-half-of-voters-are-dead-set-against-voting-for-trump/

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Almost Half Of Voters Are Dead Set Against Voting For Trump
Welcome to Pollapalooza, our weekly polling roundup. Poll(s) of the week With the 2020 election cycle revving into full gear, pollsters are asking voters whethe…
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[08-Feb-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know i am


[08-Feb-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes


[08-Feb-19 12:45 AM] Mikey#7286
Good


[08-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Torr#5078

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/543224328662024193/logos.jpg


[08-Feb-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
damn, that thing's shitposty as fuck


[08-Feb-19 01:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Left is on the right lol


[08-Feb-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>masonry


[08-Feb-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, this whole image is meme gold


[08-Feb-19 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
At least it's not a flat graph, lmao


[08-Feb-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Nile was still here, he would be masturbating to it


[08-Feb-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait nvm


[08-Feb-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Masturbation is AN UNGODLY SIN


[08-Feb-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
EVERY SPERM LOST IS A BABY ABORTED


[08-Feb-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I guess he left


[08-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
he was banned


[08-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/online/jeffrey-toobin-explains-why-trump-might-survive-mueller-fox-news/

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Jeffrey Toobin: ‘Fox News Exists to Ratify the Biases’ of Its ...
The comparison between special counsel Robert Mueller's probe and Watergate has been made ad infinitum. But Jeffrey Toobin believes there's one major difference: Fox News.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/toobin-1.jpg


[08-Feb-19 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey what was the reason?


[08-Feb-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[08-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pissing me off


[08-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
>checks ban reason


[08-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, definitely a teaspoon ban


[08-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
idiots don't understand when to stop


[08-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
lemondrop doesn't have a ban reason :(


[08-Feb-19 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't look at me for that one


[08-Feb-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
nah, that was byte


[08-Feb-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
he was banned?


[08-Feb-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
nile


[08-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was going on some bizarre /pol/ posting RP spree


[08-Feb-19 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
the poor deserve to be killed and non-religious people are going to hell or whatever nonsense of the sort


[08-Feb-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
so basically exactly what he thinks


[08-Feb-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
people on /pol/ are usually ironic to a certain degree but nile actually believes all this 100%


[08-Feb-19 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ech


[08-Feb-19 02:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nile would be the person  I send to the gamer gulag forever to spend his days holding the hands of highly paid trans volunteers.


[08-Feb-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Nile is also not super aligned with /pol/ because he utterly hates traps and sexual identity progressivism


[08-Feb-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
whereas /pol/ is in general okay with traps and gay people in a partly ironic way


[08-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this veering towards "we should unban him because he was entertaining" territory


[08-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
he's orthodox christian as well


[08-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
ew


[08-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, so are most christians east of poland


[08-Feb-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[08-Feb-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think he should be unbanned


[08-Feb-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
he was totally unproductive


[08-Feb-19 02:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's a Canadian tho @Teaspoon


[08-Feb-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
I remember him straight up indentifying Queen Elizabeth as his monarchial lord and savior and not Tsar Nicky. But also shitting on any Western European Christianity, pre and post reformation.


[08-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
well here in the US we have more roman catholics than anything


[08-Feb-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I think that's not true


[08-Feb-19 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know where you are but there's all of like one Catholic church and everyone else is someone post-reformationist.


[08-Feb-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure it's mostly protestants in the US...


[08-Feb-19 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Protestant, Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist, Presbytarian...


[08-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of north east, catholics are rare


[08-Feb-19 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though America's approach to religion is pretty loosey goosey. People as it turns out go to church less for firm theological reasons and more because they have a great day-care program and serve better coffee.


[08-Feb-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I doubt that unlike people from Sweden's far north or some shit, we're not having people getting into fights over disagreements over the spiritual status of Jesus and the proper church structure.


[08-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Church coffee brings to me the terrible realization


[08-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have never eaten a bearclaw


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
I live next to a big church that has its own cafe.


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've never bothered to visit to try it out.


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
.p bear claw


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
.p bear claws


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Mikey#7286
catholic is actually the most prominent


[08-Feb-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maybe during the summer when it's warm enough to walk over. But not in the chill of winter.


[08-Feb-19 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members

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List of Christian denominations by number of members
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The list includes the fo...


[08-Feb-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Internationally: sure


[08-Feb-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
not in the US


[08-Feb-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
But we're talking US


[08-Feb-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Catholic_population.svg


[08-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, catholics own western europe, south america, and a decent chunk of Africa


[08-Feb-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The darker the color, the more Catholics


[08-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess it's just where I live


[08-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Mikey#7286
i was born and somewhat raised catholic


[08-Feb-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
A "decent chunk" isn't that much. Comparable to America in central Africa. Otherwise the rest is largely protestants, oriental Christians, or Mormons


[08-Feb-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
it is mostly protestants but there's a couple of Catholic churches and schools around where I live


[08-Feb-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
at least their's and the Orthodox have cooler churches protestants are all dull boring garbage


[08-Feb-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Until you get to Holland, then I hear it's a Catholic church on every block. Or dueling Catholic and Lutheran or something


[08-Feb-19 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a good amount of Lutherans near me I think the closest church is Lutheran and god is it an ugly textured cinderblock building, protestants should be shot for their crimes against  a e s t h e t i c s


[08-Feb-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At least catholics know how to be properly somber


[08-Feb-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
The church next to me is made of shipping containers, I swear.


[08-Feb-19 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[08-Feb-19 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Orthodox and Catholics both at least have a sense of style


[08-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
sombrero


[08-Feb-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
all religions have horrible style :p


[08-Feb-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p somber


[08-Feb-19 03:08 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[08-Feb-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
What were the chances, lmao


[08-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
.c somber, sombra


[08-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[08-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
.p sombra, sombrero


[08-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[08-Feb-19 07:09 AM] ononim#8141
I would trade church power for lack of style any day if it was up to me


[08-Feb-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/07/white-house-trump-shutdown-deal-1157829

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/07/white-house-trump-shutdown-deal-1157829
Trump cornered on border wall
The president doesn’t have GOP support to go through another shutdown or declare a national emergency — pressuring him to back whatever deal Congress makes.
https://static.politico.com/71/df/d47bd399472bb0f8936b73bd2829/190207-trump-lede-gty-773.jpg


[08-Feb-19 08:40 AM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/46c5b19f5d6dc2a92c1f58552504f711/tumblr_pmky25ujEF1solpxqo2_640.png

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[08-Feb-19 08:40 AM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[08-Feb-19 09:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
CLAIMS TO BE PROLIFE


[08-Feb-19 09:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
BUT WANTS TO KILL THE POOR PNEUMONIA THAT TOOK US RESIDENCE IN HIS LUNGS


[08-Feb-19 09:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can we get a sad sick emoji?


[08-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sad:


[08-Feb-19 11:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/tsH9osNas1U

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[08-Feb-19 11:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When this intersects with the contemporary Latin American history I've been reading and I want to shout: "WHY DO WE LET ELLIOT LIVE?"


[08-Feb-19 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1093704172543856640?s=19

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[08-Feb-19 01:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-national-enquirer-story-affair-lauren-sanchez-politically-motivated-trump-saudi-arabia-2019-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-national-enquirer-story-affair-lauren-sanchez-politically-motivated-trump-saudi-arabia-2019-2
Jeff Bezos essentially accused the National Enquirer of having a p...
In his statement accusing the Enquirer of extortion, Bezos said that it would a "lie" to deny its piece was politically motivated.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c51fe0a2bdd7f7ced25f4f4-1136-568.jpg


[08-Feb-19 01:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the plot thickens


[08-Feb-19 02:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh


[08-Feb-19 03:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No response yet


[08-Feb-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont really know how to respond to a generic celebrity flame war


[08-Feb-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
this is not a generic celebrity flamewar


[08-Feb-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
not even close


[08-Feb-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kinda reads like one


[08-Feb-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
what Bezos is saying is Trump directed people to spy on him and intercept his texts (super mega illegal), and in the process they were leaked to the Enquirer which used them to blackmail Bezos (also super mega illegal)


[08-Feb-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[08-Feb-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am not surprised at this point


[08-Feb-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump targeting the richest man in the world for blackmail is honestly the least surprising thing about this considering he wants to desperately be in that position. What's kind of surprising is that the national inquirer went along with this in a move that would inevitably come bakc to bite them


[08-Feb-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has spent his entire presidency comitting so many crimes


[08-Feb-19 03:08 PM] byte[]#2610
national enquirer is tabloid trash


[08-Feb-19 03:08 PM] byte[]#2610
why would they not run with this


[08-Feb-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point it's by sheer risk of the GOP that he hasn't been charged yet


[08-Feb-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also valid point


[08-Feb-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could also see buzzfeed runnign with this


[08-Feb-19 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I wouldn't


[08-Feb-19 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
buzzfeed isn't exactly a pinnacle of expert journalism but they aren't a tabloid


[08-Feb-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/07/trump-national-prayer-breakfast/2799508002/

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President Trump's gaffe touts 'abolition of civil rights' at Natio...
"Many of our greatest strides ... have been led by people of faith," Trump said.
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[08-Feb-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would surprise me if we went a week without trump blackmailign someone through third party sources


[08-Feb-19 03:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is less celebrity stuff and more like the Plame Affair or Nixon responding to the Vietnam Papers


[08-Feb-19 03:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/media/national-enquirer-jeff-bezos/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/media/national-enquirer-jeff-bezos/index.html
National Enquirer publisher says it will investigate Bezos' allega...
Jeff Bezos has told his side of the story. Now David Pecker is responding.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190208081535-01-david-pecker-file-super-tease.jpg


[08-Feb-19 03:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Bezos Exposes Pecker!_


[08-Feb-19 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Feb-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it by the same guy as the last 3?


[08-Feb-19 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-receive-annual-medical-exam-friday-n969266

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Trump to receive annual medical exam on Friday
Ronny Jackson, back at the White House but no longer the president's physician, is not expected to deliver a repeat of last year's news conference.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_06/2746476/190208-trump-doctor-mc-1401_36a353d679df9a13f5a766b267f2f516.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[08-Feb-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good, maybe we can get soem actuall medical news on trum,p for once


[08-Feb-19 03:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Some dude name *Dr. Ronny Jackson*


[08-Feb-19 03:39 PM] illumnious#7938
In or out of the House, John Dingell was at home on Twitter https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/or-out-house-john-dingell-was-home-twitter-n969261

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In or out of the House, John Dingell was at home on Twitter
Former Ohio Gov. John Kasich said he envisioned even the former congressman's most cutting missives coming with "a kind of twinkle in his eye."
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_06/2746466/190208-john-dingell-al-0855_b6626eab178e26c0a53b16a7570c7161.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Feb-19 04:10 PM] Litrojia#0612
If you follow the Business Insider link, the detail of Bezos' face is unsettling


[08-Feb-19 04:11 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5ba96ca73d9ef75a4f8b4567-1920-1281.jpg

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[08-Feb-19 04:13 PM] Litrojia#0612
it'd be kinda fun to see them tear each other to shreds, not gonna lie


[08-Feb-19 04:20 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/us/politics/trump-lunch-news-anchors.html

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By PETER BAKER and MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/us/politics/trump-lunch-news-anchors.html
Before Expected Call for Unity, Trump Laced Into Democrats at Lunc...
As he has in past years, President Trump offered an unvarnished, unscripted view of the political world that went well beyond the heavily vetted speech he is to deliver to a joint session of Congress.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/06/us/06dc-anchors-hp-promo1/06dc-anchors-hp-promo1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Feb-19 04:20 PM] Litrojia#0612
"Biden was never very smart. He was a terrible student. His gaffes are unbelievable. When I say something that you might think is a gaffe, it’s on purpose; it’s not a gaffe. When Biden says something dumb, it’s because he’s dumb."


[08-Feb-19 04:21 PM] Litrojia#0612
a couple days later: abolishes civil rights


[08-Feb-19 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
The face


[08-Feb-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I want unity, but y'know, only if it;s for me and no one else"


[08-Feb-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I have the best unity, Unity only a single person can acheive, unity so huge that no one else can be unified by this unity"


[08-Feb-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4778922/alexandrio-ocasio-cortez-ethics-game

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Alexandrio Ocasio-Cortez and the Ethics Game
Educating everyone about what the 'bad guys' can legally do.
https://images.c-span.org/Files/c5b/20190206224357002_hd.jpg/Thumbs/height.630.no_border.width.1200.jpg


[08-Feb-19 06:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/world/europe/france-italy-ambassador-yellow-vests.html

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By ADAM NOSSITER, JASON HOROWITZ and RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/world/europe/france-italy-ambassador-yellow-vests.html
France Recalls Ambassador to Italy, Revealing Strains at Europe’...
Building tensions reached a breaking point after Italy’s deputy prime minister, Luigi Di Maio, met this week in France with a Yellow Vest leader.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/08/world/08France-Italy-1-print/08France-Italy-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
italy's trying to spread fascism again


[08-Feb-19 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47167378

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47167378
Thai princess in extraordinary poll bid
Her decision breaks with the tradition of the Thai royal family publicly staying out of politics.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/18123/production/_105559589_hi052163634.jpg


[08-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/08/presidential-declaration-national-emergency-donald-trump-border-wall-congress-oversight/2784488002/

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How congressional Democrats could fight a Trump wall national emer...
Congress hasn't voted to overturn a presidential emergency in 44 years. But in 2005, one congressman threatened to – and the president blinked.
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[08-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
hahahahaha


[08-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
there's a POST-WATERGATE REFORM which makes it very simple to overturn national emergencies declared by the president


[08-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
>So Miller changed tack. He dug up the National Emergencies Act of 1975, one in a series of post-Watergate reforms. It allowed Congress to terminate a presidential emergency by simple majority vote.


[08-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
"The original intent of the 1975 law was to allow Congress a block a presidential emergency by simple majority vote. But in 1982, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the legislative veto. So now, any joint resolution by Congress to terminate an emergency can be vetoed by the president. "


[08-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
aww, it has no actual teeth


[08-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
so an actual idiot like trump could just veto it and be done with it


[08-Feb-19 09:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-protester-challenges-jacob-rees-130516526.html

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[08-Feb-19 09:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Getting to the bottom of the issue. no coverups


[08-Feb-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
Shes taking a page from Churchill, Great men have nothing to hide from each other


[08-Feb-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
If he backs down he's not a great man


[08-Feb-19 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Bold strategy


[08-Feb-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47154187

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'I fled the fake US university'
The University of Farmington was a scam so why did 129 Indian students risk their future to enrol there?
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[08-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
"Veeresh (name changed at his request) was at home in California on 30 January when he heard the news - 130 students (the group included one Chinese national) enrolled at the University of Farmington had been arrested. The university had turned out to be a sham run by undercover agents investigating immigration fraud."


[08-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[08-Feb-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
this sounds ultra mega illegal


[08-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
"The University of Farmington was set up in 2015 to catch foreign nationals who had travelled to the US on student visas but stayed on by transferring to fake universities and then obtaining work permits through them. "


[08-Feb-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/x2aeaqFSt3Q

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Bolshevik Bistro: Cities Skylines and Left Urbanism with Donoteat01
Today TK Jones is going to talk to Donoteat01, an author of a Cities Skylines lets play, where he goes through a history of a fictional American city of Fran...
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[08-Feb-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/brett-kavanaugh-june-medical-services-louisiana-john-roberts.html

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Brett Kavanaugh Just Declared War on Roe v. Wade
John Roberts joined the liberals to save the constitutional right to choose—for now.
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[08-Feb-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there we are


[08-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you get rid of abortion all that is going to happen is women who want one go to a back alley.


[08-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But that's what pro lifers want


[08-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Either scenario of that results in them getting what they want


[09-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either a woman "degenerate" enough to want an abortion dead or disabled, or a kid born.


[09-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Roe is gonna get overturned, there will be a lot of abortion tourism, and some Southern state will try to ban pregnant women traveling to get one or something.


[09-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That will be overturned but Roe won't be put back in place.


[09-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
and after that obergefell will be targeted


[09-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You actually _will_ get the meme abortionplex


[09-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm thinking they'd go after Miranda first tbh


[09-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Second most hated decision for conservative jurists


[09-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obergefell is probably 4th or 5th


[09-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Mikey#7286
i would have figured they'd hate anything that goes against "muh religion"


[09-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Special counsels being constitutional and various 40s stuff is worse for em


[09-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When Roe gets overturned and states ban abortion but others allow on demand third trimester or something


[09-Feb-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The former will bitch so much


[09-Feb-19 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
well


[09-Feb-19 12:04 AM] Mikey#7286
to overturn Roe, they'd need to make a case end up from state all the way to the SCOTUS


[09-Feb-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
States are passing these laws hoping one will be challenged


[09-Feb-19 12:05 AM] Mikey#7286
and supreme court rulings rarely ever end up overturned


[09-Feb-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/429180-candace-owens-if-hitler-just-wanted-to-make-germany-great-and

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Candace Owens: 'If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and ha...
Conservative activist Candace Owens said it would have been “OK” if Adolf Hitler wanted to keep his activities to Germany while speaking at a British conference in December.
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[09-Feb-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck, TPUSA


[09-Feb-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler wanted black Germans dead, the fuck


[09-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A fuckload of German propaganda was based around racial inferiority of black people


[09-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, declines in art and music were attributed to them, who were funded by Jews or something


[09-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was inconsistent though; Hitler never missed a chance to call Americans out for being bad to blacks


[09-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But also said that they were inferior


[09-Feb-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he basically called americans out on what he perceived as animal abuse?


[09-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
hitler was a hypocrite


[09-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it was always just propaganda


[09-Feb-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have yet to hear of a dictator who wasn't/isnt a hypocrite


[09-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
_coughTrumpcough_


[09-Feb-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i beleive it was geobbels who said to blame the opposition for the things you yourself are doing


[09-Feb-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is pretty much a staple dictator tactic


[09-Feb-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
was napoleon a hypocrite?


[09-Feb-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
napoleon was a dictator btw


[09-Feb-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure actually. I know of his battles but not his tactics...


[09-Feb-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
IO hadnt really thought of napoleon though


[09-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Napoleon was a genius


[09-Feb-19 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
I've mentioned it before, but I feel like napoleon was the last sane, reasonable dictator


[09-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
every dictator since napoleon has been incredibly unhinged


[09-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Napoleon was a radical centrist who took advantage of "phew, both of these sides are bad huh"


[09-Feb-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
radical centrism is basically centrism with an opinion


[09-Feb-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
since the core tenet of regular centrism is not to have an opinion


[09-Feb-19 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess i shoudl say i havent heard og a *modern* dictator who wasnt/isnt a hypocrite


[09-Feb-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also insane and murderous


[09-Feb-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Only one consolation: France’s navy was so weak that the slave trade could not begin again on a grand scale. Napoleon himself never really interested himself in the question again, up until the First Abdication. He did abolish the slave trade during the Hundred Days (decree of 28 March, 1815), at the same time as the Congress of Vienna also proclaimed its abolition. It was to take several more decades before the abolition of slavery and the slave trade (which for France occurred in 1848) became “worldwide”."


[09-Feb-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you're a communist dictator of a country and between WW2 and the 1990's you just cede autonomy to the constituent Republics while allowing the workers total control of their work place, and being a non-alligned third power you technically can trade with both sides but both sides sorta don't and instead you just consume a shit ton of Mexican music.


[09-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
what country is that?


[09-Feb-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yugo-motherfucking-Slavia.


[09-Feb-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/hSkwg8tyVSA

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PloMat
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Ljubomir Milic i Trio paloma - Sam ko vetar
Ljubomir Milić i Trio Paloma - Sam ko vetar
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[09-Feb-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, this is a south slav singing Mexican style shit


[09-Feb-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because Mexico was one of the few countries that partook in any sort of cultural exchange, lmao


[09-Feb-19 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then there's the pre-1844 spanish civil war which if ||pan's labyrinth|| is anything to go by had some real sociopathic monsters runnign the show... I should probably do actuall research into that era


[09-Feb-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Feb-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Spain just has a whole historical chapter called "The ominous decade"


[09-Feb-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ominous_Decade

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Ominous Decade
The Ominous Decade (Castilian: Década Ominosa) is a traditional term for the last ten years of the reign of King Ferdinand VII of Spain, dating from the abolition of the Spanish Constitution of 1812, on 1 October 1823, to his death on 29 September 1833.
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[09-Feb-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and then came the Carlist Wars


[09-Feb-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man


[09-Feb-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spanish Carlists were a crazy bunch


[09-Feb-19 12:32 AM] Honahue#0656
China has their "Century of Humiliation"


[09-Feb-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They wanted absolute monarchy for Spain, but also for some reason defended ethnic federalism


[09-Feb-19 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Basques in particular were avid defenders of the Carlist pretenders to the Spanish throne


[09-Feb-19 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And one Basque Carlist rebel general, Tomás de Zumalacárregui, allegedly invented the Spanish egg-onion-potato tortilla :D


[09-Feb-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/tech/amazon-new-york-hq/index.html

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Amazon said to be reconsidering New York City headquarters
Amazon is said to be reconsidering its plans to open up a new campus in New York City's Long Island City neighborhood after facing backlash from local residents, according to a Washington Post report on Friday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190208120308-amazon-new-york-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[09-Feb-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have thye already taken money from new york?


[09-Feb-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
no, nothing's even started with building


[09-Feb-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
the governor and mayor are both supportive of amazon though


[09-Feb-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomás_de_Zumalacárregui

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Tom%C3%A1s_de_Zumalac%C3%A1rregui
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Zumalac%C3%A1rregui-Magues.jpg


[09-Feb-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Granted, i took this info from a wikipedia (PBUH) article


[09-Feb-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It might just be a folk tale


[09-Feb-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
"Unions, which have organized most of the deal opposition on the grounds that e-commerce destroys traditional retail jobs, said the Washington Post report suggests Amazon is threatening to pull the plug on the efforts to pressure New York politicians and galvanize support. Amazon has said publicly — most recently at a City Council hearing on the subsidies — that it opposes union drives at its warehouses."


[09-Feb-19 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Amazon? More like, Domineeron


[09-Feb-19 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[09-Feb-19 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOT EEM


[09-Feb-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
out of all the retail i;d liek to work at less thna walmart it;s amazon


[09-Feb-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
best retail to work at is costco


[09-Feb-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i lived near one


[09-Feb-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4238952-costco-retail-gem

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Costco: A Retail Gem
Costco offers great business and investment appeal. Costco displays a number of business advantages making the company well positioned to succeed in an increasi
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[09-Feb-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thew walmart here has run most of the big names and local businesses away


[09-Feb-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

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Libertarian socialism
Libertarian socialism (or socialist libertarianism) is a group of anti-authoritarian political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy.Libertarian socialism is close to and o...
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[09-Feb-19 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq98oSOl5n0

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Zero Books
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Join the Cult of Bill Murray?
According to the New York Times, Bill Murray has become a secular saint. Douglas Lain flirts with the idea of joining the Cult of Murray in this video while ...
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[09-Feb-19 02:53 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avHO4TkJBN0

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Goulash Guy
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Paul Joseph Watson and the Soy Question
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[09-Feb-19 02:53 AM] moonatik#3676
this never ceases to crack me up


[09-Feb-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
S O Y


[09-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
>soy question
This is like the Jewish question but for everyone they don't like


[09-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get it


[09-Feb-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
To the uninitiated in biochemistry soy and other plants contain a chemical compound called Phytoestrogen. These same people zero in on the "estrogen" part of the world and claim its feminizing, despite phytoestrogen doing nothing to the male - mammalian - body. These men's health or men's rights right-wing people as such use soy as an insult, because anyone who consumes soy is somehow less a man than them.


[09-Feb-19 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
They also believe that the feminization of men is causing all the problems so eating soy is the cause of the downfall of society


[09-Feb-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the lesson here is to eat more soy


[09-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-razor-wire/disgusting-razor-wire-must-go-say-us-border-city-residents-idUSKCN1PX04V

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'Disgusting' razor wire must go, say U.S. border city residents
When Sherrie Nixon saw the six strands of razor wire strung along the U.S.-Mexic...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190208&t=2&i=1354322002&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF1702J


[09-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
“They’re turning our town into a military base. It’s like the front lines of some kind of war zone,” Nixon, 68, told the Nogales City Council on Wednesday night. “Please take a stand and at least have them get rid of the razor wire. It’s a public nuisance, it’s lethal.”


[09-Feb-19 03:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
that stuff sticks out too much and it is clearly too close to a footpath. someone should walk and get a cut from it and threaten to sue.


[09-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuelas-maduro-spurns-u-s-aid-rival-warns-military-not-to-block-it-idUSKCN1PX20S

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Venezuela's Maduro spurns U.S. aid, rival warns military not to...
Venezuela's government on Friday said the United States should distribute h...
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[09-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
dictators, no matter whether they're nationalist or socialist, shouldn't be tolerated


[09-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna969366

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Tax code changes leave Americans asking, ‘What happened to my re...
"If I were to estimate, two-thirds will pay more than they thought and one-third will get more than they thought,” said one tax preparer.
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[09-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/middle-class-dad-freak-trump-211032057.html

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Middle Class Dads Freak Out About Trump Tax Hike
Many Pro-Trump dads are facing the music. Trump is not on their side.
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[09-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump lied about cutting middle class taxes


[09-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Mikey#7286
What a shock


[09-Feb-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's almost liek trump is a business man and only looks out for what;s best for his biusiness


[09-Feb-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also looking for ways to screw over everyone else to make himself look better by comparison


[09-Feb-19 05:20 AM] ononim#8141
>rep tax cuts are only cuts buisness and ALSO an increase to regular yanks


[09-Feb-19 05:21 AM] ononim#8141
ImagineMyShock.mp4


[09-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://medium.com/@jeffreypbezos/no-thank-you-mr-pecker-146e3922310f

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No thank you, Mr. Pecker – Jeff Bezos – Medium
Something unusual happened to me yesterday. Actually, for me it wasn’t just unusual — it was a first. I was made an offer I couldn’t…


[09-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how tight some sphincters clenched at the Enquirer when they saw that published


[09-Feb-19 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why does Bezos exist even


[09-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why does anyone exist


[09-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Bezos Exposes Pecker!_


[09-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, tbh the way you say that makes it sound like you'd advocate for just straight up killing people once they reach a certain wealth threshold


[09-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bezos 2020


[09-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a Bezos/Zuckerberg ticket in any form


[09-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
please no


[09-Feb-19 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow

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[09-Feb-19 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
But to be real: once you get even above a few million there's not a lot more you can buy that is even substantially better in quality than you can get anywhere. I'll have to hunt down the study but there was research on people's relative contentment of happiness per earnings group and the "sweet spot" was something like... 900k? Again I'll check; but the point being there's not a whole lot more new things to get at a million or several millions


[09-Feb-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a point where the earnings you make can not be used to usefully get new comfortable shit and even when you use it to do that you end up hoarding homes or amenities or food that others need otherwise.


[09-Feb-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
k


[09-Feb-19 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's effectively hoarding, not in the direct malicious way that's done to make the price of shit to go up by killing the circulation and you can make money by releasing the with held stuff, it's just hoarding because you have nothing else to do with it.


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
this is why bribery (lobbying) is such a big issue imo


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could tax Bezos and get everyone fucking healthcare. He's got an income as high as the GDP of many companies.


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at high score charts in games_


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuckers are just hoarding


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
people have so much useless cash laying around that there's no reason not to invest it in politicians


[09-Feb-19 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now of you turn some of that capital over to wages for his employees it may not be an issue


[09-Feb-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
games are kind of like the "you wouldn't download a car" thing though


[09-Feb-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
there's a finite amount of money to go around


[09-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
but you can take a single copy of a file and make infinite copies from it


[09-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
same with high score charts in a video game


[09-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Money isn't much less real


[09-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
the best get better at no expense to everyone else


[09-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Money I make isn't money I'm taking away from a beggar on the streets


[09-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
what was being discussed in this case was specifically internal to a business


[09-Feb-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
it's why I think the cooperative style of business seems a lot better than corporations, in the same way that no one would want to move to north korea or russia over the US or france


[09-Feb-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
The money you make at work stems from circulating or creating new value, depending where in the economy you're at. Though given the progress in technology it'd be absurd to suggest that people who don't do anything shouldn't get anything, because there'll probably be a point where the rest of us are there, or will be trying to convince ourselves we're doing stuff to validate having money.


[09-Feb-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
no one would willingly move to an autocratic nation where they have to give up all autonomy when they can move to a democratic nation that they get a voice in


[09-Feb-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
At this point money probably won't be necessary as a way to store created or moved value because nothing making value is going to need money: robots.


[09-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly none of us will live to see that


[09-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until there's a robot that can build a house


[09-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
just plop down a giant ass robot and it follows a schematic


[09-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are several, Crow


[09-Feb-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
We can work to it though, so that doesn't mean to shrug and ignore the things to do between now and then


[09-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
given how angry social conservatives get when things start changing, it usually takes excessive pressure for these sorts of changes to get rolling


[09-Feb-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like of we're going to turn money over to services and stuff for non-working people, or incapable of working then we don't need to pick the pockets of Cableman Joe. We can just use some of Bezo's stuff before he can buy another island nation or whatever he does with that.


[09-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as there are people with any modicum of power out there still preaching about sun gods, nah


[09-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame we don't have gladiatorial deathmatches anymore


[09-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
the massive layoffs due to AI encroachment are going to hit pretty much all at once


[09-Feb-19 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just in time for a war


[09-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Economies in developing/3rd world countries boom, as they don't have the capacity for robotics/AI, sucking in skilled workers from "the west"to accelerate them
Meanwhile workers in "the west" still refuse to do menial jobs and manual labour, leading to increased immigration strife


[09-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
in a relative blink of an eye (a span of 5-10 years), starting sometime within the next 20 years, there'll be a massive wave of unemployment across multiple entry level positions with no college or special training requirements


[09-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
stuff like burger flippers and store cashiers


[09-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And damn will things get ugly once even the menial jobs in places like bangladesh are automated


[09-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
truckers will be gone within the next 10 years


[09-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for the walled cities of skyscrapers and miles-wide slums


[09-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
since trucking is something that AI is actually really good at


[09-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
AI have no downtime, can work 24/7, and truckers are often on long stretches of nothing and getting tired and into crashes and shit


[09-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, I feel like trucking strikes are just going to speed up the process


[09-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
there's a trucker strike coming up in a few months


[09-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There was a taxi driver strike for two weeks in spain last month, railing against uber and similar services


[09-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After two weeks people were commenting on how little traffic there was and that the air pollution levels had noticeably dropped


[09-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With little to no disruption in transportation or inconvenience


[09-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The strike ended without them getting anything but fucking themselves over


[09-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
tbh at this point it's been all but proven that public transportation is much better than anything that can be provided privately


[09-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cars are just super fukking inefficient.


[09-Feb-19 06:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Michelle-Carters-Lawyers-to-Take-Texting-Suicide-Case-to-US-Supreme-Court-505580331.html

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Lawyers Plan to Take Texting Suicide Case to SCOTUS
Lawyers for a woman convicted of involuntary manslaughter for encouraging her boyfriend to kill himself in dozens of text messages say they are planning to take the case to the U.S.
https://media.nbcboston.com/images/1200*675/AP_17215670511387.jpg


[09-Feb-19 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope she gets gored by wild alpaca before then


[09-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good luck getting certiorari.


[09-Feb-19 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno if trucking is going away quickly, those automated driving systems currently are kinda shit and only work in good weather 10 years is a long time in technology terms but there's also a ton of ethical concerns and most trucking accidents are other drivers fault anyways


[09-Feb-19 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's only incentives to make the tech better.


[09-Feb-19 07:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Build more trains.


[09-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
only nazis and communists build trains


[09-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Mikey#7286
oh you mean like "hey I know you're driving a bigass semi but Imma pass in front of you at the worst time and cut you off"


[09-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Making the tech better doesn't and can't solve the issue that inevitably a self driving vehicle will have to make a calculation to kill someone


[09-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Mikey#7286
also sorry AOC but you'll never ban planes


[09-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Ban planes, trains only, final destination


[09-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[09-Feb-19 07:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's this about banning planes?


[09-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Mikey#7286
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/ocasio-cortez-aoc-green-new-deal-resolution-explained-utopian-and-pragmatic.html

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AOC’s Green New Deal Resolution Is Utopian — and Pragmatic
The proposal is a left-wing wish list that includes policies unrelated to climate. That makes it legislatively nonviable — but politically sound.
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/02/07/07-aoc-green-new-deal.w600.h315.2x.jpg


[09-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Planes are pretty bad for the environment


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Mikey#7286
we don't really have a more efficient way of getting people from one part of the world to the other though


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Mikey#7286
unless we tried investing in like


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Mikey#7286
electric planes


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I can see being against planes to go from Vegas to LA


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Planes are only about as bad as cars.


[09-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Sure for international stuff but there's a whole.lot of local flights


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local flights will be electric by century's end


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Planes aren't a huge deal for stopping pollution


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Mikey#7286
if we're all still here lol


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
there's tests being done on solar electric planes


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
cars are the big target that can be done right now


[09-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
mainly to extend flight time


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
not act as the sole source of energy


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
still have to plug it in after it lands


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno power density is still a big problem and gas, kerosene, diesel are orders of magnitude more energy dense then the best batteries


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's a dizzying number of new battery technology being developed, lots of them based on graphene


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
at least one of them will be a hit


[09-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why long-haul flights will likely use gas for a long time


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
And with planes weight is a huge issue


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but local flights will be electric because it'll be cheaper.


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
there's a bunch of ultralight technology for planes being developed too


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
which, ironically, are also based on graphene


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Doesn't do much good to have something that can only carry itself and it's battery into the air


[09-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Mikey#7286
also i think she wants to make more train travel, but investing in and building more railroads would take years


[09-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
obviously the solution is to create a robot that makes train tracks


[09-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Sure but it's also a proven technology, it's not like electric planes it's something that just needs funds to be done


[09-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
But proven tech isn't sexy


[09-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Trains.are 200.years old but self driving underground electric cars wow that sounds like Star trek


[09-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Also like subways but you know


[09-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Subways mean you have to rub elbows with the poors


[09-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
And that doesn't sound like star trek


[09-Feb-19 08:14 AM] Honahue#0656
I found a study about graphene battery super capacitors that put it at around 170 W per Kg which is not great compared to gas or diesel at over  10,000


[09-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.bdtonline.com/news/dingell-s-farewell-message-to-america-includes-dig-at-trump/article_f76f7734-7ca1-51f9-90d1-a54705426e38.html

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Dingell's farewell message to America includes dig at Trump
DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — On the day of his death, longtime Rep. John Dingell dictated a farewell message to America and used some of his final words to criticize President
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/bdtonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/6f/d6f8c1a9-39d0-5030-9f93-392d980cd3e1/5c5d046ef0f44.image.jpg?resize=969%2C630


[09-Feb-19 08:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Guys dying and he still pussy foots around calling Trump a bastard


[09-Feb-19 08:29 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[09-Feb-19 08:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
TFW before I came in to the training room here at work to eat lunch I find someone on day was watching Fox news clips


[09-Feb-19 08:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
So now I'm negating this by playing ContraPoints


[09-Feb-19 08:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
At least they didn't log in this time.


[09-Feb-19 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just tell them watching Fox gives you ligma


[09-Feb-19 08:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm up for some comedy tonight will somebody link me the full reading of this "green new deal" I keep hearing about


[09-Feb-19 08:48 AM] Mikey#7286
just look it up lol


[09-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I know little about it and I don't want to accidently read somebody's political anyalasis of it


[09-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Mikey#7286
why because it'd be too liberally biased and too against conservatives?


[09-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because I want to form my own damn opinion about it


[09-Feb-19 08:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
The funny thing is what's circulating right now turns out to be a Republican forgery.


[09-Feb-19 08:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
GG


[09-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[09-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Mikey#7286
not surprised


[09-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so nobody knows where this document origonated


[09-Feb-19 08:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
As far as I know before this whole thing somehow exploded was that there wasn't a concrete bill, just a vague notion of something to do.


[09-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Mikey#7286
it's all over the place


[09-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Mikey#7286
here


[09-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.gp.org/green_new_deal

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Green New Deal
The Green New Deal is a four part program for moving America quickly out of crisis into a secure, sustainable future. Inspired by the New Deal programs that helped us out of the Great Depression of the 1930s, the Green New Deal will provide similar relief and create an econom...
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/gpus/pages/3435/meta_images/original/GND-Justin-Banner.jpg?1544786502


[09-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Mikey#7286
this is literally the official page for it


[09-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's the green party's platform


[09-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Mikey#7286
this is the green new deal


[09-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
as far as I know the phrase has been in vouge for years before the dems appropriated the term


[09-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Mikey#7286
just read it if you're so adamant at laughing at democrats lol


[09-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'd love to read it but it seems like it got pulled down


[09-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
finnaly found the damn link but it 404s


[09-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/blog-posts/green-new-deal-faq


[09-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
see for yourself


[09-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Mikey#7286
here's another https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/691997301/rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-releases-green-new-deal-outline

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Releases Green New Deal Outline
The plan is massively ambitious and faces political blockades. Proponents believe it is what's necessary to start saving the world from the threat of climate change and to reshape the U.S. economy.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/07/aoc_dsc0436-edit_wide-bb6cb3d058ff8e83a71c5414928590cf8a4ee1c9.jpg?s=1400


[09-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[09-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Mikey#7286
it wasn't pulled down


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that's not the primary source document that's npr


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't want to read it through the lens of a spindoctor


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Mikey#7286
well the link you sent is 404


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they pulled it down before I could read it


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the link I sent you is the main source document


[09-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Mikey#7286
https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/Resolution%20on%20a%20Green%20New%20Deal.pdf


[09-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Mikey#7286
this seems to be different from the one I linked


[09-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Mikey#7286
anyway


[09-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Mikey#7286
if you think it's worth a laugh, i guess you hate the planet because climate change is a serious issue


[09-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Mikey#7286
despite what the orange ape and other old coots in the GOP claim


[09-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you seem salty about something I've been desprate for the dems to win back my respect with a rational argument... still waiting


[09-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Mikey#7286
climate change?


[09-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Mikey#7286
they care more about it than the republican party lmao


[09-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
not sure the GOP and the president deserve respect either when he makes moronic tweets like this


[09-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086971499725160448

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086971499725160448
Be careful and try staying in your house. Large parts of the Country are suffering from  tremendous amounts of snow and near record setting cold. Amazing how big this system is. Wouldn’t be bad to have a little of that good old fashioned Global Warming right now!
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[09-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
and then other idiots like this


[09-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1073757414770524162

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Steve Milloy (@JunkScience)
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1073757414770524162
DeFazio on climate: "This is the existential threat to the future of the planet."

Insanity.

For comparison, the atmosphere Venus is 96.5% CO2 -- and the planet is still there.

In contrast, Earth's atmosphere is only ~0.04% CO2. 

https://t.co/SvScU32iZG via @politico
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[09-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1074327244741464064

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Steve Milloy (@JunkScience)
https://twitter.com/JunkScience/status/1074327244741464064
If you want to trigger climate bedwetters, tell them that CO2 cannot destroy the planet. https://t.co/ryh7KxX4xr
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[09-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
are you open to an honest arguemnt the far left seems to lose their minds whenever I talk about climate change


[09-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not a far leftist, despite what you seem to think


[09-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've litteraly just met you 5 seconds ago


[09-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i've spoken to you here before though....?


[09-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
about similar things


[09-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
probably but honestly the climate change deniers don't like me either


[09-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Mikey#7286
but climate change is an actual issue, and unlike extremists I look to scientific evidence and facts


[09-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and not emotion


[09-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
my perspective: something like climate change was always going to happen either by our own hands or the super volcanoe exploding in yellowstone. the problem I have with the left is that they're trying to stop something ineveitable when instead we should focus on keeping our civilization alive.


[09-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
the thing is that we're accelerating the rate of it with fossil fuels and all the co2 we emit in the atmosphere on a daily basis


[09-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Mikey#7286
if we want to keep civilization alive we have to reduce our carbon footprint, and a supervolcano eruption is not likely to happen anytime soon


[09-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Mikey#7286
we can't stop it but we can slow the effects


[09-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you sure that's the only solution? why not rebuild our infrastructure to weather extreme climate shifts


[09-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Mikey#7286
if carbon levels get too high that wouldn't really matter


[09-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I never argue agains the science I object to the absurd solutions to the issue


[09-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why won't it really matter then


[09-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
we've already passed the safe PPM


[09-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
well


[09-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Mikey#7286
if carbon levels get too high, changing our infrastructure won't matter if we can't breath the air


[09-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and yet we don't suffocate also that dosen't make any sense the air is mostly nitrogen already


[09-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Mikey#7286
nitrogen isn't toxic to us


[09-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
oxygen won't magicly cease to exist if there's more carbon in the air.


[09-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Mikey#7286
no but we can't breath carbon dioxide


[09-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the only way that could ever become a crisis is if all plantlife goes extinct on earth


[09-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Mikey#7286
all it takes is a runaway greenhouse effect to do that


[09-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how the hell does that even happen


[09-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/426608/how-likely-is-a-runaway-greenhouse-effect-on-earth/

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How Likely Is a Runaway Greenhouse Effect on Earth?
The results of the latest analysis are not entirely reassuring.
https://www.technologyreview.com/_/img/mittr-social-logo-v2.png


[09-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Mikey#7286
if the atmosphere warms too much it'd eventually kill plant life


[09-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
simple solution enginer plants to resist the high tempuratures and take in more co2


[09-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Mikey#7286
that'd take a lot of research and bioengineering most likely, and then you'd have to somehow apply that to every plant life on the planet


[09-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.plantanswers.com/garden_column/june03/4.htm


[09-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-numerology/

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Climate Numerology: How Much Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Is Safe?
Trying to find a "safe" level for atmospheric carbon dioxide
https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/E4006A29-C523-4D5C-A7C965D219DBAEFA.jpg


[09-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
trying to read the previous link they cited a 22 page document


[09-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Mikey#7286
my mistake


[09-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Engineering food crops can work on large scales, but the thing is that it's still a lot of resources to do


[09-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's better to not raise the temperature to begin with


[09-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[09-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Trump's EPA has been sharing much less data, making work on this matter virtually impossible.


[09-Feb-19 09:30 AM] Mikey#7286
doesn't help he cut funds to it


[09-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ultimatly the american public aren't the ones who need convincing it's the undeveloped world that does


[09-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The third world doesn't need convincing


[09-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who are starving aren't very active in politics


[09-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
which leads to horrible dictatorships, sure


[09-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it also means it's very fast to get decisions at the gov't level done


[09-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty trivial to get Kenya's leader on board with something that massively improves crop yield


[09-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, farmers won't care about regulations and will use whatever gets high yield in such areas


[09-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only reason you even talk to the gov't is they hav good distribution systems to get the good stuff out


[09-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, third world also doesn't hav the damn R&D to do this


[09-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to rely on us handing over the tech


[09-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Trump gutting this shit is such a big deal


[09-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
What America does now will impact Africa for 40 years to come


[09-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Mikey#7286
aye


[09-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
my impressions of the first source you linked: the study of the earth's climate is such a young disapline that there's a lot of unknown variables at work


[09-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Mikey#7286
A lot of what Trump seems to have done to me is to undo a lot of what Obama did, not for fixing the country but to stick it to him, even if it was better for the country


[09-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
if Obama built a wall, I'm 100% certain Trump would have said to tear it down


[09-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump is a joke, his own party doesn't even really like him


[09-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're all neocons and trump isn't


[09-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
he's just a conman businessmogul who managed to get elected


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a lot of unknown variables at work


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's a retarded argument to make against climate change.


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
which is bush too anybody remember how bad bush was


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
trump isn't even conservative


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, we don't actually know how the fukk anesthesia works


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
so I guess we should just stop using it, guys!


[09-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
he's talked about religious values but i sincerely doubt he's even read the bible


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey, there's uncertainty about how gravity works too, so let's just forget that like, things fall.


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and um, we don't quite know the best way to make solar panels...so let's not!


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely fukking fallacious bullshit


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't just go "there are unknowns" and throw out the data.


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not even going to waste my time talking about orange man


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Ted Cruz would have been a better president


[09-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ted cruz would gut the epa too


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The orange man is currently in control of the enforcement arm of one of the most powerful countries in the world.


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Mikey#7286
Ted Cruz is at least articulate and intelligent


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ted Cruz would not gut them nearly as badly


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would also not fill them with shills


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would mostly try to limit their power against businesses.


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lol ted cruz intelligent


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has gone way further than that.


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Compared to Trump, yes.


[09-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[09-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comparisons to Trump form a really bad metric


[09-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I thought you guys were smart you're playing right into orange man's hands


[09-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump has other issues besides intelligence, his health is so obviously not optimal and he's ignored diets that his dietician have said to do and he probably has dementia


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and also it bothers me that we don't know how gravity works preciscely and I want answers also magenetism


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MASTER PLAN, MIKEY


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well we might get answers in a century or two


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
science isn't something you just finish one day.


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm more optimistic


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you could fully explain the universe's existence, you still hav to do stuff like figure out the fastest-cooling piece of bread.


[09-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Mikey#7286
we know how gravity works at a general level


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
we know more about it than like


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Optimism has no place among the truth.


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
dark matter at least


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can be optimistic all day long


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't mean the planet's not going to hav neutral pH oceans and 2C extra average temperature in a century


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
or string theory, the great attractor


[09-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
etc


[09-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a bit of that will be because someone dropped the fukking ball on trying to stop changing the climate so damn much.


[09-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i think we understand the big bang more than those as well


[09-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't argue against the science of climate change I agrue against the policies put out by the left you do realize the political leaders of the left are just as corrupt as bush do you


[09-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fallacious.


[09-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Mikey#7286
political leaders on both parties are corrupt


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
just look at Mitch McConnel


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're doing a false equivalency and non sequitor.


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, stop


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
this guy has no interest in actual debate.


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's tossing around idiocy.


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
His argument


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
is that because politicians are corrupt


[09-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
both sides are equally corrupt (untrue)


[09-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than why the hell should I take them seriously then how do I know for sure they have the intrests of mankind in mind


[09-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that therefore any attempt to stop global warming is just the left out to get something


[09-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that therefore we should be okay with the right trying to make businesses get better profit while not doing anything about the problems they're causing


[09-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because they're crummy ideas crafted expclicety for the benefit of the ultra wealthy.


[09-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody has the best interests of mankind at heart.


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you know human nature so well do you?


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's retarded to ignore people with good solutions because they aren't some pure fictional hero of goodness.


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're suddenly in the minds of everyone tell me o great mind reader what am I thinking?


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me why a plastic bag ban is just to benefit the ultra wealthy.


[09-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Prove it* to me.


[09-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Mikey#7286
tho tbf I'd argue the GOP cares less about mankind than the dems, the GOP is shittier at hiding it at least


[09-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
because it's a pointless distraction that has nothing to do with the acctual issue of climate change


[09-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Explain that.


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I asked you to prove it, not to spew more of your bullshit.


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Explain to me


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
how this policy


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
benefits the ultra wealthy


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
a plastic bag ban is not just to benefit wealthy


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and why it also does not help the environment.


[09-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
nor is investing in cleaner energy


[09-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Mikey#7286
phasing out fossil fuels and coal(which is already happening)


[09-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I just did and you goddamn ignored me hey why don't you try something new and novel and not be a fucking partisan for once


[09-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bit aggro


[09-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No you didn't.


[09-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Explain it to me.


[09-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
What benefit are the ultra wealthy getting?


[09-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the actual environmental effect?


[09-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the ultra wealthy want to pollute but want to stop the left from proposing anything that's a serious threat to their profits so they propose a plastic bag ban which will have negligable impacts on anything but makes them look moral. while they continue to export all of the worst forms of pollution to communist dictators


[09-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Mikey#7286
i'd love to continue this but i need to sleep


[09-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's a red hearing


[09-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so that puts forward a benefit


[09-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what about the effects?


[09-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"communist dictators"
Name 3


[09-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are plastic bags truly "negligible"?


[09-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
maduro, xi jinping, kim jong un


[09-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to switch topics on you, TSP


[09-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
thanks for trying to poison the well


[09-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument isn't about whether anyone's a communist dictator and what China counts as is a whole debate on its own.


[09-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I forgot the american definition of "communist" was so loose


[09-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is about this idea that the ultra wealthy are using plastic bags as a distraction while they dump pollution.


[09-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where they dump pollution is irrelevant to the argument.


[09-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The ultra wealthy organize yearly in an old castle overlooking a simple farm village to plan out their future pillaging of the planet


[09-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then they have a masked sex orgy with slaves


[09-Feb-19 10:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
acctualy the argument changed like 3 times we got stuck on the runnaway greenhouse effect because there's a huge 22 page paper on the subject I need to read before continueing.


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, you could literally just read the Wikipedia article on "greenhouse effect"


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it would probably giv you most of the relevant info on the mechanics.


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
is north korea even left or right? it just seems like it's just ultra extreme authoritarian


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wikpedia... good god those fucking morons


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for runaway, I'm sure there's a few things on methane deposits.


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, thing is when you criticize sourcing


[09-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sources come in two basic flavors


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are your summaries


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and your actual data


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wikipedia is just regurgitator


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
actual data comes in huge fukklong scientific papers and measurements


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
summaries come in things like Wikipedia that source eventually down to actual data


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you don't accept summaries


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you don't want to bother reading actual data


[09-Feb-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I must conclude you just want to reject sources because you disagree with them.


[09-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and I only grant those measurements any credence I don't give a rat's ass about wikipedia's editorializing on the data


[09-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you hav in practice rejected all possible sources.


[09-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
classical partisan tactic: dismiss a critic by declaring them to be X so  you can ignore any serious objections to the claims


[09-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've been down this road before


[09-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not fooling anyone with this schtikk you care about the facts.


[09-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You clearlydon't.


[09-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get to say you do and then reject all actual sources when presented with them.


[09-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also havn't declared you as anything.


[09-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, go read that 22 page paper and come the fukk bakk.


[09-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll still be here, it's Discord, after all.


[09-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're not fooling me anymore. go ahead demonize me for not being a partisan.


[09-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If actually accepting sources and reading them makes me a partisan then well


[09-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8


[09-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Quit the offended act


[09-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think I'll hav to liv with that.


[09-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've seen this pathetic tactic over and over again. and now I don't care what I say because no matter what I say you'll just find a way to weasl you're way out of a logical critisism have fun living in your echo chamber.


[09-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The usual


[09-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the "pathetic tactic" of believing Techonology Review's summary of a scientific paper is accurate.


[09-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare I.


[09-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You've been out argued, and resort to bitch about being attacked or looked down or being silenced


[09-Feb-19 10:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the truth is you have nothing but can't admit it


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What usually follows is "I have the perfect argument but you won't even listen so I won't bother. ECHO CHAMBER"


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you only have institutions.


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, here's the real fun thing


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
ftr I'm litteraly laughing at you right now


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual article says 'Goldblatt and Watson have an answer: “The good news is that almost all lines of evidence lead us to believe that it is unlikely to be possible, even in principle, to trigger full a runaway greenhouse by addition of noncondensible greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide to the atmosphere.”'


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's the foeward


[09-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, a runaway effect isn't happening unless we're really determined to be shitty.


[09-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, it still implies that we'll hav a pretty high temperature for a while if we burn all the fossil fuels


[09-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
just, we won't turn into Venus from doing so.


[09-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho it is quite hilarious when a Republican Senator says that Venus is full of CO2 and hasn't exploded, so we shouldn't worry about global warming.


[09-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you should read the full pdf


[09-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: 600 ppm of CO2 reduces human cognitive function by 10-15%


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
What would reading the full PDF gain me here?


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the full picture


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the truth


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Learning every detail isn't necessary or even necessarily helpful.


[09-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
wow who's the science denier now


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still you.


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't particularly care to read the exact numbers they hav in that one paper.


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you can't possible make an informed descision without all the details


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a fallacy


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I forget the name of it


[09-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they acctualy don't have numbers in that paper just a hypothesis


[09-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they cited dozens of other papers with the numbers


[09-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, there's the Nirvana Fallacy


[09-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also the falllacy fallacy invalidates the entire use of the logical fallacy method


[09-Feb-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it doesn't.


[09-Feb-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fallacy fallacy just means your opponent can still be right even if they're retarded.


[09-Feb-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
the fallacy fallacy is disregarding an argument because it contains a fallacy


[09-Feb-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't mean every one of their fallacious points is true.


[09-Feb-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't apply when the entire argument is a fallacy


[09-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your saying I need perfect information or I don't know anything is a fallacy.


[09-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it being a fallacy has no bearing on a larger argument.


[09-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just means it itself is wrong.


[09-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the fallacy fallacy simply means you can't use a fallacy to dismiss an argument. also my initial claim seems to have been forgotten in this whole mess


[09-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it doesn't.


[09-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means you can't use a fallacy in part of an argument to dismess a larger argument.


[09-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can still dismiss fallacies themselves.


[09-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm dismissing your nirvana fallacy then


[09-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You saying I need to read that PDF or I know nothing is false dichotomy, a fallacy.


[09-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus can be completely ignored.


[09-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, what is your claim, and how do runaway greenhouse effects relate to it?


[09-Feb-19 10:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
Harazu KeshtahToday at 3:10 AM
my perspective: something like climate change was always going to happen either by our own hands or the super volcanoe exploding in yellowstone. the problem I have with the left is that they're trying to stop something ineveitable when instead we should focus on keeping our civilization alive.


[09-Feb-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's incredibly flawed


[09-Feb-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not on whether global warming is real


[09-Feb-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's flawed on the idea that because something is inevitable, it shouldn't be delayed or reduced


[09-Feb-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, your argument is tantamount to "the Earth will be destroyed one day, so the left shouldn't be trying to stop doomsday"


[09-Feb-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or the even worse "The Earth will be destroyed one day, so we shouldn't do anything to improve our environment"


[09-Feb-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, what you're arguing is that because one day the Earth will be uninhabitable, we should just go out and shit in the road


[09-Feb-19 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean to be fair, most of us will be dead before anything we do to slow down global warming will have an effect, so why bother?


[09-Feb-19 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This isn't India, Nebbie D:


[09-Feb-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does it occur to you that global warming may hurt civilization?


[09-Feb-19 10:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
acctualy the point I'm trying to make is that we should be focusing on engeniring for a disaster rather than trying in vain to reverse 100s of years of change


[09-Feb-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that reducing the amount of warming may significantly help civilization stay around and prosperous.


[09-Feb-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, my counterpoint, as I stated earlier


[09-Feb-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
is that it is significantly easier to reduce the scale of this disaster


[09-Feb-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
than it is to make everything disasterproof


[09-Feb-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because there are still things we can do right now to reduce its scale


[09-Feb-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, we should hav disasterproof stuff


[09-Feb-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there is only so many resources we can invest in a given amount of time


[09-Feb-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
right now, it is far more worth it to invest resources in reducing the disaster.


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is unlikely some other disaster will coincidentally happen within a century.


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One big thing people like to ignore


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't agree besides even if it is more expensive to enginer better for a disaster I think it'll ultimatly benifit humanity more in the extreme long term


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is mindset


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Yellowstone would actually cool the planet


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
making warming resistant crops would not help at all against Yellowstone.


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you really rail in that even minor pollution is bad, people are more likely to see major pollution as bad


[09-Feb-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the extreme long term, we'll hav the tech to easily disasterproof in a year


[09-Feb-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes more sense to do things right now to reduce the imminent disaster we are causing.


[09-Feb-19 10:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I don't agree with that


[09-Feb-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"plastic straw ban" may not have much of a "real world" effect, but it brings to the front of people's minds that plastic garbage all over the place is something bad, and it's something big corps should really not be doing


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
like I said something like this was inevitable


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't.


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not in the next century.


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And technology seems to be exponential.


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The longer you giv technology, the faster it can prepare for disaster.


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And maybe one day a big corp won't be run by sociopaths but by people that grew up thinking "pollution is bad" and actually run the company by it


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a disaster happen in a century is REALLY BAD


[09-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
compared to a disaster thousands of years from now.


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is better to mitigate the disaster than to solely prepare for it.


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
acctualy the plastic straw ban only gets people angry at the concept of bans


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, Europe is quite fine with it


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It gets angry idiots mad for a year


[09-Feb-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are nonplastic straws, biodegradable plastic, and non-straw solutions.


[09-Feb-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of which aren't that hard to switch to.


[09-Feb-19 10:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you changed the topic again


[09-Feb-19 10:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
one point at a time people


[09-Feb-19 10:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know about you but I would rather not be stuck in an airconditioned Arcology because outside the air has too much sulphur dioxide to be comfortable to breath let alone live in for too long and the temperatures are excessive as well as constant megastorms. I would kind of like to take those long walks in the woods like Henry David Thoreau. And if takes making some basement dwelling code-head uncomfortable because he can't mine Bitcoin or whatever: then so be it. But as much as life is shit I don't want it to get worse because of anime robots or something.


[09-Feb-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Preparing for disasters with current tech is really hard


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
you want disasters to not happen for at least like 200 years


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
ideally never


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
We just cannot deal with something like 3 C of warming rapidly


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if we build domes on earth we can build domes anywhere in the solar system


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how it works.


[09-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are vastly underestimating the logistical problems and basic issues.


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
I for one will just usher in a localized Posadist Utopia in the event of some entrapment by setting off a nuke.


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and you're vastly underestimating human ingenuity


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just put an airtight dome on Mars and liv in it


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need power, water, air, food, and not to die of fukking radiation.


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Currently, we do not hav the technology forany of those 5 to work long-term on Mars.


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has not been invented yet.


[09-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and building eco domes on earth is a stepping stone to building that technology


[09-Feb-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But building eco domes on Earth is very hard and a huge waste of resources.


[09-Feb-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was tried once, and a mistake in concrete pouring screwed up the oxygen.


[09-Feb-19 10:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the first airplanes were all jokes


[09-Feb-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you fixed that, it's fundamentally resource-intensive.


[09-Feb-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You lose a lot of benefits closing things off


[09-Feb-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause there's a lot of required movement of insects and other significant parts of the biosphere


[09-Feb-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, hardware breaks. A lot.


[09-Feb-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would need vast factories and farmland all enclosed.


[09-Feb-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be logistically a nightmare.


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point, you're enclosing so much you may as well be encasing the whole planet in a sphere of glass


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we don't hav enuff glass to do that.


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to power all that hardware


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's an absurdist solution to be sure but I'm arguing mindset


[09-Feb-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means either nuclear, solar, or wind


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause this is after the oil is all burned, remember.


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm acctualy not against renewable energy development


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to disasterproof


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need the very technologies that would've reduced the disaster to begin with.


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
HMMMMM


[09-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
although it should be pointed out there's a lot of downstream pollution involved in building solar panels


[09-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There doesn't *need* to be, tho.


[09-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm not even against electric cars going mainstream


[09-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, creating crops that can grow in +3 C is a bad investment compared to creating crops that can grow in +1.5 C and also reducing warming to only +1.5 C


[09-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll hav to engineer crops anyways because of some bullshit with things like the coffee market.


[09-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
eventualy if we reaserch into these subjects they'll eventualy produce superior tech


[09-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the case no matter what we research.


[09-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, you hav to recognize that some of this stuff that reduces the disaster's scale is important


[09-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if it's not always the same stuff that'll help deal with it.


[09-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, it is better that we only deal with the minimum amount of disaster as far away as possible.


[09-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
We *will* be prepared for it in the end.


[09-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we'll be more prepared if it's less intense or further away.


[09-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
which is why that the current climate crisis is as mild as it is  instead of oh say the aformentioned volcaone


[09-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, banning disposable plastics that don't degrade is about a *separate* disaster we're creating with a ton of nondegrading waste that accumulates in the food chain and will eventually poison us too.


[09-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm sure we could spend 20 years figuring out how to make common bacteria all eat plastics and such


[09-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
our infrastructure is ancient and antiquated why not invest in green infrastructure then


[09-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that would be a looooot of effort compared to replacing plastics with nearly-as-good alternatives.


[09-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I don't think Yellowstone erupts plastic...


[09-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only natural disaster that would be comparable to any artificial disaster would be Yellowstone to nuclear winter and I guess radical sunlight increases to global warming.


[09-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
in western culture esspecialy since the modern dream achived it's goal. the idea of restricting people's liberty for a greater good is anathema to the postmodern mind.


[09-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Radical sunlight increases aren't likely to happen for another billion years.


[09-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
By which time the ocean may hav been stripped away anyways.


[09-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone should probably look into making Yellowstone not erupt, and also not having all these damn nukes sitting around.


[09-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause low amounts of sunlight aren't things you can really prepare for meaningfully.


[09-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lowers energy a ton and kills all your food, dome or no dome.


[09-Feb-19 10:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
" Someone should probably look into making Yellowstone not erupt, and also not having all these damn nukes sitting around." and that's my objection right there. the political policy people who accept climate change as a real thing always are thinking of trying to stop inevitable natural processes from occuring instead of preparing for this occurence happening.


[09-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm starving and gotta go by the way but here's some food for thought: people hundeds of years ago couldn't have possibly known about the consequences of burning coal and oil for energy. what if our attempts at saving the climate create diffrent unforseeable problems down the road


[09-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is virtually nothing you could do to prevent mass famine and near extinction from Yellowstone erupting.


[09-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once it happens, the entire world is just boned.


[09-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And very boned for decades.


[09-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even surviving as a species would require some crazy engineering of self-sustaining bunkers.


[09-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
With nuclear power.


[09-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would take looooots of resources.


[09-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually staying relatively unimpacted? Not going to happen.


[09-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's possible that it could be made to release its energy much more slowly.


[09-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would be some crazy engineering, like the bunkers


[09-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it would mean no disaster.


[09-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than "disaster, but a few million survived to be able to rebuild"


[09-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for global warming, no natural process we know of could cause it.


[09-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not in the near future.


[09-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You shouldn't be having to prepare for some BS you're actively causing this very moment. Just stop fukking causing it.


[09-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, virtually all attempts at preventing said disaster just involve reducing carbon output to levels where nature can correct it.


[09-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And similarly, plastic pollution solutions involve just not using a fukkton of plastic


[09-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is basically nothing they could further cause by being put into place.


[09-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The things causing the disasters, CO2 emissions and plastic pollution, are simply incredibly disruptive by nature, and all that people really are asking for is to stoooooop


[09-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, we had a problem with CFCs as well


[09-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
causing a hole in the ozone layer


[09-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
if we had kept up use of them, we would likely currently be facing severe cancer rates and such


[09-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would've been hard to prepare for


[09-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead, we banned the fukk out of CFCs


[09-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically not used anymore


[09-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the ozone hole is recovering.


[09-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually nothing natural could cause depletion of the ozone layer, as well.


[09-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Short of like, animals evolving to use CFCs or something stupid.


[09-Feb-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
PTFE is another problem...


[09-Feb-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ptfe?


[09-Feb-19 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
teflon


[09-Feb-19 03:13 PM] byte[]#2610
only known way to decompose it is pyrolysis and it releases fluorinated gases


[09-Feb-19 03:13 PM] byte[]#2610
which can kill


[09-Feb-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[09-Feb-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/trump-complains-presidential-harassment-twitter-175952977.html

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[09-Feb-19 03:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump: "America will never be socialist"
Also Trump:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1094035813820784640?s=19

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North Korea, under the leadership of Kim Jong Un, will become a great Economic Powerhouse. He may surprise some but he won’t surprise me, because I have gotten to know him & fully understand how capable he is. North Korea will become a different kind of Rocket - an Econo...
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[09-Feb-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an economic rocket?


[09-Feb-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[09-Feb-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I like kim jong un, he knows how to play me liek a violin! such a great economic man!"


[09-Feb-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I hope he or putin invites me to dictator prom! what charming men"


[09-Feb-19 04:46 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Feb-19 04:51 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/washington-measles-outbreak-hundreds-rally-to-presesrve-not-to-vaccinate-children-2019-02-08/?fbclid=IwAR0KYS_mWsiXjZNt1omCII2wNKpDYEdXdbJ9ETeFx3woTStKaOZCGaIYnwA

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Hundreds rally to preserve right not to vaccinate children amid me...
Washington currently allows parents to refuse vaccines for philosophical reasons
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[09-Feb-19 04:51 PM] Mikey#7286
I swear to god


[09-Feb-19 04:58 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/cwyyell/status/1094036024563359749?s=19

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@realDonaldTrump
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[09-Feb-19 04:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Bahahaha!


[09-Feb-19 04:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Sarah Sanders as the loyal reporter for the dictator president


[09-Feb-19 04:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Fucking


[09-Feb-19 04:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Accurate


[09-Feb-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so there is a measles outbreak... and parents are rioting to not vaccinate their children?


[09-Feb-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the dumbest time line


[09-Feb-19 05:01 PM] Mikey#7286
They might as well be euthanizing their kids


[09-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe that's their goal?


[09-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe it's just a weird reverse psychology thing so thye can murder their children legally slow


[09-Feb-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just really make thme suffer for thewir crime of existing


[09-Feb-19 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No they quite honestly believe vaccines harm their kids more than a virus with a .1% mortality rate


[09-Feb-19 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And with something like a 1% severe complications rate.


[09-Feb-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know... I just wanted to beleive in a better world for a moment


[09-Feb-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that slow child murder is better


[09-Feb-19 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/aspies123/status/1092542146933153793?s=21

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[09-Feb-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/7dbf1d031a8e4f8e9143e3eed7f4b231

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BOSTON (AP) — Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld has changed his party registration from Libertarian back to Republican as he mulls a possible primary challenge against President Donald Trump. Weld served as a Republican governor from 1991 until 1997. He later became a ...
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[09-Feb-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
don't think I can take a person with a twitter handle "aspies123" seriously


[09-Feb-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl really jsut be calling anti-vaxxers, pro-diseasers


[09-Feb-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anti-vaxx sounds radical and rebellious and catchy


[09-Feb-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is partially hwo they  pull people in


[09-Feb-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest is fear and stupidity


[09-Feb-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ask an anti vax when the garage sale is


[09-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-five-year-old-who-was-detained-at-the-border-and-convinced-to-sign-away-her-rights

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The Five-Year-Old Who Was Detained at the Border and Persuaded to ...
Months after the Trump Administration announced that it would halt its practice of separating immigrant families, the practice has quietly continued.
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[09-Feb-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, they're still separating as many as they can by cooking the books and keeping things quiet


[09-Feb-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not fukk with the fukking children.


[10-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are they white? If not, no one cares.


[10-Feb-19 12:19 AM] illumnious#7938
Pressure grows after second woman accuses Virginia Lt. Gov. of sexual assault https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/second-woman-accuses-virginia-lt-gov-justin-fairfax-sexual-assault-n969571

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"It is obvious that a vicious and coordinated smear campaign is being orchestrated against me. I will not resign,” the Virginia Democrat responded in a defiant statement denying the allegation.
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[10-Feb-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/In-Texas-even-possession-of-a-sex-toy-is-11161211.php

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In Texas, even possession of a sex toy is regulated
There are some laws you just have to wonder who they were meant to apply to.
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[10-Feb-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep. i think in texas you are legally only allowed to own one dildo at aq time


[10-Feb-19 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
six


[10-Feb-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i stand corrected


[10-Feb-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately this also means no bad dragon collection in texas


[10-Feb-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how do thye even enforce this law?


[10-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more complicated than that


[10-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas Penal Code §43.23: A person commits an offense if, knowing its content and character, he wholesale promotes or possesses with intent to wholesale promote any obscene material or obscene device.


[10-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A person who possesses six or more obscene devices or identical or similar obscene articles is presumed to possess them with intent to promote the same


[10-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This law has been found unconstitutional.


[10-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory it could be enforced and a Texas court could rule against you


[10-Feb-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you could take it up with SCOTUS and they could tell Texas to GTFO


[10-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely tho it would not be enforced because it has been ruled in the 5th Circuit to be unconstitutional for the same reasons as anti-sodomy laws.


[10-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
A prosecutor trynig to bring enforcement of a law found unconstitutional at best gets a prosecution and nobody notices


[10-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and at worst loses their career.


[10-Feb-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be nice if states were forced by the federal gov't to remove unconstitutional laws from the books.


[10-Feb-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
most likely you wouldn't need to take it up with scotus at all


[10-Feb-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
it doubtfully would even last a normal trial if the jury is made aware that the law is unconstitutional


[10-Feb-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but if like, they really hated _the gheys_ or something you could just appeal and it's almost guaranteed you'd have the ruling overturned


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte it's Texas


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a prosecutor brings the case


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it goes to a Texas court instead of the 5th circuit


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it *very likely* would be used


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav to appeal.


[10-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would take a few years.


[10-Feb-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
fun


[10-Feb-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind what happened with the guy in Virginia IIRC who got caught getting a blowjob from a teenager


[10-Feb-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It took like 10 years to get it overturned.


[10-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Virginia's sodomy law was still on the books.


[10-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there was the excuse it was not consenting *adults*


[10-Feb-19 04:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Ritualist_dA/status/1094326230487322625?s=19

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Carnival in Italy. Holy fuck.
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[10-Feb-19 04:12 AM] illumnious#7938
I must go my children


[10-Feb-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[10-Feb-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is such an awesome body wasted on such a dumb head


[10-Feb-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Italy is making fascism great again


[10-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/world/europe/france-italy-ambassador-yellow-vests.html

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France Recalls Ambassador to Italy, Revealing Strains at Europe’...
Building tensions reached a breaking point after Italy’s deputy prime minister, Luigi Di Maio, met this week in France with a Yellow Vest leader.
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[10-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
your line is too real :(


[10-Feb-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/30/french-police-tactics-scrutiny-gilets-jaunes-injuries-paris

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French police weapons under scrutiny after gilets jaunes injuries
Government facing calls to ban riot police’s use of explosives
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[10-Feb-19 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
I had to slap someone's wrist on my own Discord who was posting images of the mangled hands at the protest so I can say with confidence to doubters: it's not just allegations, it's true.


[10-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[10-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/opinion/canada-trudeau-saudi-arabia.html

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Opinion | Thank God for Canada!
Our boring neighbor is a moral leader of the free world.
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[10-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/2/9/18217566/finland-basic-income

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Finland gave people free money. It didn’t help them get jobs —...
Receiving a basic income had other great effects on the unemployed.
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[10-Feb-19 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
No one's going to care, happy proles aren't useful to capitalists


[10-Feb-19 09:25 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Feb-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/opinion/sunday/jeff-bezos-national-enquirer-blackmail.html

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Opinion | Daddy Warbucks Goes to War
A one-in-a-billion chance: a heroic billionaire.
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[10-Feb-19 10:33 AM] Crow#5457
"As Galloway told me: “The second-worst decision in the last 12 months was the world’s wealthiest man sending out pictures of his genitalia. The worst decision was A.M.I. deciding to attempt to blackmail the wealthiest man in the world via email. Dumb and dumber."


[10-Feb-19 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, this might actually be a boost to the mueller investigation


[10-Feb-19 01:29 PM] Ramenoodles#4640
https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/status/1094394118002929664

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England: We got a little Trump baby balloon.

Italy: Cool, cool. Check this out!😎

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[10-Feb-19 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Feb-19 04:38 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
for fuck's sake


[10-Feb-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah he's still doing this pocahontas thing


[10-Feb-19 04:54 PM] Mikey#7286
This guy


[10-Feb-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont presidentially harass him, but while you;re at it jsut let him harass you in every other way


[10-Feb-19 04:57 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/bjaninemorison/status/1094089707644891137?s=19

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@realDonaldTrump Kissing up to your dictator again, Donald.

You're not a president, you're a despot wanna-be.

You're unfit to be president because of your love affair with dictators.

Keep it up, loser, we will #impeach you for high crimes and misdemeanors.
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[10-Feb-19 04:59 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[10-Feb-19 04:59 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm sorry for the nightmares you'll get now


[10-Feb-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've seen worse


[10-Feb-19 05:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Remember this?


[10-Feb-19 05:01 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1094358155327361028?s=19

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[10-Feb-19 05:01 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992?s=19

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North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Bu...
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[10-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah this si why newtons third law of trump is a thing


[10-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for every tweet there is an equal or opposite tweet


[10-Feb-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumpmalso has a habit of flip flopping constantly depending on whether he's gettign hsi way or not


[10-Feb-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if Kim were to cancel their upcoming meeting, he woudl flip out and start calling kim a sad pathetic tinyman


[10-Feb-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly with a few asian racial slurs thrown in for good taste


[10-Feb-19 05:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[10-Feb-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Feb-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
oh god, the horror!


[10-Feb-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is horrifying


[10-Feb-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this mosnter must be stopped!


[10-Feb-19 06:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh the humanity, faux news will show everyone


[10-Feb-19 06:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Especially their dying viewer base


[10-Feb-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
probably the one they're actually mad about is"abolish ice"


[10-Feb-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their elderly dying veiwer base


[10-Feb-19 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
rest is fake outrage


[10-Feb-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i support homes as a human right


[10-Feb-19 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
so do I


[10-Feb-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
living on rent forever is a crime against human nature


[10-Feb-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provide me a basic shelter, and a food budget and i woudl totally work to support the rest of the requirements such as electricity and lifestyle


[10-Feb-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and wifi


[10-Feb-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and water


[10-Feb-19 06:26 PM] Mikey#7286
Show those Democrats aka demonrats


[10-Feb-19 06:26 PM] Mikey#7286
Suck Trump's dick because he gives you more viewership


[10-Feb-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
afew cities right now i think are working on cuttignt he hold of empty appartment buildingsw from foreign investors not using them for anything


[10-Feb-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
absentee landowners are an absolute cancer


[10-Feb-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[10-Feb-19 06:46 PM] Ramenoodles#4640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSSFAGx3GNY

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Doomsday Prepper's conservative off grid living and survival expert, Rick Austin (AKA The Survivalist Gardener) and the founder of Prepper Camp, teaches the ...
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[10-Feb-19 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/7/18211890/social-media-life-insurance-new-york-algorithms-big-data-discrimination-online-records

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Why the future of life insurance may depend on your online presence
As the use of algorithms and public data to inform insurance premiums becomes more common, we’ll need to decide what is and isn’t okay.
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[10-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr if you're poor and Google has data saying you do all those shitty poor person things, life insurance will be too expensive for your poor ass


[10-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Government regulators want to balance the interests of both customers and businesses'


[10-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
BULL. SHIT.


[10-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no such "balance" to be had.


[10-Feb-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses are scum, and customers are going to get screwed.


[10-Feb-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp guessi;m never having lfie insurance than considering i;m nearly invisible online


[10-Feb-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a social media sense


[10-Feb-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not a searhc engine sense


[10-Feb-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs require facebook, insurance requires facebook. fuck facebook


[10-Feb-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point facebook is runnign itself like a government agency


[10-Feb-19 07:19 PM] Honahue#0656
well shit I deleted facebook


[10-Feb-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
You'll still be _able_ to get life insurance, it'll just be more difficult now I suppose


[10-Feb-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
But


[10-Feb-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
FUCK insurance companies


[10-Feb-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Their entire business model is horrific


[10-Feb-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
insurance companies as a whole are a cancer


[10-Feb-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/opinion/sunday/israel-progressive-anti-semitism.html

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Opinion | The Progressive Assault on Israel
A movement that can detect a racist dog-whistle from miles away is strangely deaf when it comes to some of the barking on its own side of the fence.
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[10-Feb-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
How to entirely miss the point


[10-Feb-19 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
1. Have a country carved out for you by the UN after WWII
2. Start killing and bombing your Muslim neighbors
3. Call people racist because they want to boycott you, because you think it's about you being Jewish
4. ??


[10-Feb-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
profit?


[10-Feb-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Bulldoze Palestinian homes to put up settlements_


[10-Feb-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Have a history of using human shields_


[10-Feb-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's because I'm Jewish, isn't it?!"


[10-Feb-19 09:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's entirely destroy the concept of Isreal and Palestine. Neither of them can have that.


[10-Feb-19 09:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Instead force them to recognize a mutual, pluralistic Jewish-Muslim state.


[10-Feb-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we just give it to like


[10-Feb-19 09:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
And Christians too, sorta.


[10-Feb-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk the Polish or something


[10-Feb-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
East Poland


[10-Feb-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
My other meme proposal would be to give Isreal to a Jain sect or someone with absolutely no historical ties to the region and no stakes in the game.


[10-Feb-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Polish would probably just use it to revive the Kingdom of Jerusalem


[10-Feb-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
i made woops and i fix


[10-Feb-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Are Israel’s purported crimes really worse than those of, say, Zimbabwe or China, whose rights to exist are never called into question?"


[10-Feb-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
My opinion has always been if it's God's given land then God will secure it for them and I don't need to


[10-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he really want to hear people's opinion on this?


[10-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because I would say "Holy shit yes they are"


[10-Feb-19 09:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
When it really comes down to it, Man walked out of the Savanahs of Africa, so the only viable legal solution is to cede the world to Somalia by way of having the oldest human remains. They or Ethiopia.


[10-Feb-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
somalia has senority


[10-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Honahue#0656
Do they? I thought some older fossils were found somewhere else


[10-Feb-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
They're scattered around as I recall, I remember reading an article about fossils as old being found in Mauritania.


[10-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So I guess somalis also take credit for the first murders and rapes?


[10-Feb-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe


[10-Feb-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kind fo hard tot ell att his point


[10-Feb-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we only have fossils to go on and even then we're finding new ones allt he time


[10-Feb-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
ofc not


[10-Feb-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
animal kingdom was first by a long shot


[10-Feb-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And really, Somalia or Ethiopia is the only real pick since Africa isn't a monolithic culture nor a single country. So it's not like we can say the Empire of Man belongs to the Federal Republic of All Africa or something.


[10-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Honahue#0656
African Union


[10-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
Libya is pretty goddamn old


[10-Feb-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think the Congo might be as old as well. Or there's a lot of really old shit in general throughout Africa. Although Ethiopia as a single entity has either been on or off over the centuries and only really came to exist in its modern form in the late 1800's its composite kingdoms have existed for eons. Shit like Aksum are ancient.


[10-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Honahue#0656
I know Herodotus mentions both, I think he said Libya was older or thought to be but it's Herodotus he said a lot of shit


[10-Feb-19 10:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Herodotus I think thought there were gold digging ants in Tibet.


[10-Feb-19 10:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
But he was kind of running off of hear-say. It's not like he travelled anywhere beyond maybe Persia and could radio-carbon date things.


[10-Feb-19 10:22 PM] Honahue#0656
He travelled around the Mediterranean and the ants are hilarious


[10-Feb-19 10:24 PM] Honahue#0656
You take two camels, but they have to be camels that just had a calf, and drag a bag between them to gather the gold the ants dig up. They have to have a calf at home so they run faster cause they want to see it again


[10-Feb-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was a TEDed video I watched awhile ago about Herodotus and it was proposing some of the theories behind his wild claims, and a lot of that may have come down to mistranslation mixed with a game of telephone or something.


[10-Feb-19 10:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
mfw arguably israel benefits from international anti-semiteism because it encourages people to move, have their population grow and justify colonizing further lands and kill more muslims


[10-Feb-19 10:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
my hot take of the day


[10-Feb-19 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then they go there and recreate something like the American Dream as best they can with single family homes with something like lawns, which of course means populations have to be spread out more and not concentrated because they all end up living in big single family, single generation homes.


[11-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Torr#5078

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[11-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[11-Feb-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
I only take sasuke bait


[11-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
one thing that's good about the whole fake news debate is that it points out how easy it is to make a seemingly official graphic that supposedly has the support of a bunch of big, official groups but makes a statement that literally no one agrees with


[11-Feb-19 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Contemporary politics be like

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[11-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy4AUzsGbfE

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TEDx | Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation | Mirjam Heine |...
A disgusting TEDx Talk trying to normalize pedophilia by declaring that "pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation, just like heterosexuality". ------------...
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[11-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Torr#5078
:blep:


[11-Feb-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Feb-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
TEDx is basically a platform for any random person to make a presentation on, like how youtube lets literal nazis play "I'm Not a Nazi" while making all the same points that nazis do


[11-Feb-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, if it's determined that pedophilia is treatable condition, it'd be a dick move to rail on those that are actually seeking treatment for it


[11-Feb-19 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But my impression is most don't, just hide it and try to not slip... until they slip


[11-Feb-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I firmly believe a few "conservative" parents tend to beat the drum against sexual education because they actually abuse their children at home


[11-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
I always imagined it like it was similar to how someone might really like food from a certain restaurant and has cravings about food from that specific restaurant, but the food is really expensive there, or the restaurant is really out of the way, so the person settles for getting food from a cheaper/closer place that doesn't really satisfy them but keeps them from going insane with hunger


[11-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's in the same psychological vein, at least


[11-Feb-19 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everyone points fingers at "leftists" for supposedly being pedophiles but nobody points fingers at the church :ponythinking:


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
catholics used to be demonized more than they are today


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
it used to be that being a catholic was actually a reason to not vote for you


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maybe in the US


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Know Nothing Party was so silly


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
being religious at all is reason for me to not for you tbh


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, obviously in the US


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's the US that's puritanical as fuck about sex ed


[11-Feb-19 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Popist plot! Popist plot! Vote for us or else Popist plot!"


[11-Feb-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know, the Know Nothings of the 1850's sound a lot like the Republicans of today


[11-Feb-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Republicans back then actually had a concrete issue to fight against


[11-Feb-19 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nowadays, it's all just conspiracy peddling and needlessly antagonizing a specific group of people


[11-Feb-19 02:29 AM] Mikey#7286
republicans are who were mostly anti-slavery iirc and freed the slaves


[11-Feb-19 02:29 AM] Mikey#7286
in the 1850s and 60s


[11-Feb-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
groups that complete their task and then don't have anything else to fight against typically become a thing for another group to fight against, funny how that happens


[11-Feb-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Republicans started as what was basically an alliance between multiple parties, the remnants of the whigs, anti-slave democrats, free soilers, and so on.


[11-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
and lincoln was the first GOP president


[11-Feb-19 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
The major program of the early Republican party was the abolition of slavery, free land in the west for people, and national improvements. Abe Lincoln did two and a half of these, the national improvements were a half and sort of played with now and then on and off.


[11-Feb-19 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Grant picked up the Lincoln Republican legacy by issuing a few new voter's protection ammendments to help the recently freeds slaves get to the polls and redeployed the army against the south to beat up some Klansmen and clear the way to the polls.


[11-Feb-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
one of the more common arguments I see popping up is that because lincoln was a republican, and the south were democrats at the time, that democrats are pro-slavery and are just tricking minorities into voting for them


[11-Feb-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then Grant left office and the Republican Party basically shifted to capitalism mode.


[11-Feb-19 02:32 AM] Mikey#7286
high tariffs, gold standard, etc


[11-Feb-19 02:32 AM] Mikey#7286
now they're neocons lol


[11-Feb-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact: Karl Marx wrote indirectly for the Republican Party. He wrote as the English/European correspondent for the New York Journal, which was the paper Abraham Lincoln and the Republican Party read for current affairs.


[11-Feb-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they read Marx.


[11-Feb-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Feb-19 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: Marx once planned to settle in Texas in the midst of 1843


[11-Feb-19 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
But that plan fell through.


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
And he did revolution instead.


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
And was thrown into exile.


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now i wanna see a spaghetti western with Marx as a character


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
A German immigrant who fought as a general in the Civil War actually challenged Marx to a duel for being "too conservative"


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lecturing random cowboys on the dialetics of capitalism


[11-Feb-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Willich

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August Willich
August Willich (November 19, 1810 – January 22, 1878), born Johann August Ernst von Willich, was a military officer in the Prussian Army and a leading early proponent of communism in Germany. In 1847 he discarded his title of nobility. He later immigrated to the United Stat...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/August_Willich.jpg


[11-Feb-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
"In London, Willich became an associate of the French revolutionary and political exile Emmanuel Barthélemy. According to Wilhelm Liebknecht, Willich and Bartholemy plotted to kill Karl Marx for being too conservative. Willich publicly insulted Marx and challenged him to a duel, which Marx refused to fight.[5] Instead Willich was challenged by a young associate of Marx, Konrad Schramm. The pistol duel was fought in Belgium with Bartholemy acting as Willich's second;[6] Schramm was wounded but survived the encounter.[5] Bartholemy was hanged in London in 1855 after shooting and killing his employer and another man."


[11-Feb-19 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Howdy, pardner. Do ya have some spare time for talking about primitive accumulation of capital and how your situation came to be?"


[11-Feb-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
alternate history idea: karl marx moved to texas and created an alternate future where california is the red stronghold and texas is blue


[11-Feb-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, better: RED (in the commie sense of the word) TEXAS


[11-Feb-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Alternate alternate: Karl Marx move to America and settled in Texas and his intellectual ideas influenced the Republican Party and the radicals weren't just full-on abolitionists but   C O M M U N I S T S


[11-Feb-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's more likely that he would've been killed by some pinkertons


[11-Feb-19 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't ruin the fun >:c


[11-Feb-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pinkertons would have come about after Marx would have supposedly settled in America.


[11-Feb-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And may have taken a few years yet to get the national reach Allan Pinkerton would get.


[11-Feb-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Pinkertons for instance wouldn't get government contracts until 1871


[11-Feb-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/red-dead-redemption-2-rockstar-pinkerton-lawsuit-1203108019/

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Rockstar Games and Take-Two Interactive hit back at the real-world Pinkertons last week after receiving a cease and desist letter over use of the Pinkerton agency’s name and badge throughout …
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[11-Feb-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/TjHTxRa/comment/1582649569>


[11-Feb-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
>Now hotels in mountains where there’s a problem with wifi are getting popular just so people can get a decent holiday.


[11-Feb-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Elect me as president and I will sign an executive order that regularly and temporarily shuts down the internet for all non-emergency services for a limited time so people can take Twitter holidays.


[11-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon multiple states hav laws on the books that mean you can be committed to an asylum indefinitely by a court for being a pedophile. There are also laws protecting psychatrists who alert the authorities (about not just actual crimes, but being a pedophile itself) so that doctor-patient confidentiality doesn't apply.


[11-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, a proper session would likely involve someone revealing actual crimes, even if ones committed well past statute of limitations etc., which means it's a pretty bad idea for someone to seek treatment.


[11-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the court went with "no we are not committing someone just because they fantasize", if information got out, then the person would likely face public attakks.


[11-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has a big problem with that.


[11-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US has that, but with guns and more crazies and drugs.


[11-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the treatment in question is behavioral therapy, to my understanding it's basically just building up self-control to a point where someone isn't the sort that can't resist touching kids. That *can* work, but first of all it doesn't actually treat *pedophilia*, it treats *child molestation*, someone who doesn't go around raping kids has no need of the treatment to begin with. Second of all, people tend to be pretty stubborn after teenage years and especially after 25, so it could take years to work.
There isn't some magic pill that makes people stop fantisizing about whatever they like sexually and there likely won't be for a century or more.


[11-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, note how this relates to CP and loli


[11-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Behavioral therapy can at best make you not addicted to the porn, but you can bet your ass the gov't will go after people who already just want some loli even if they find IRL kids revolting, provided they hav the resources to.


[11-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you actually tried to do some big treatment program...you'd mostly end up committing people to asylums for fapping to loli while actual molestation still happens between le creepy uncle and le vulnerable niece.


[11-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Honahue#0656
there is a pill though, South Korea will chemically castrate them so they don't have any sexual desire


[11-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chemical castration doesn't remove sexual desire


[11-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just removes your ability to actually get someone pregnant.


[11-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, you can cut the penis and balls off


[11-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the loss of testosterone will reduce sexual desire


[11-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they'll still fantasize about as much as any woman, likely a bit more.


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
it reduces libido


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
potentially to zero


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, the way you deal with fetishes is by outright brainwashing with like, some crazy future magnet tech.


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
at least to doesn't want to act on it anymore


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or nanomachines to restructure the pathways.


[11-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing balls does not reduce libido to zero.


[11-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libido is naturally present in the brain the way it works, and is enhanced by certain hormones.


[11-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
SSRI's reduce libido and they aren't even castration drugs


[11-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those hav to be taken regularly tho.


[11-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah so does chemical castration


[11-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's taken for a bit and then does its thing and can be stopped.


[11-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't need a continual dosage thereafter.


[11-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
if you're taking it for cancer


[11-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not for cancer.


[11-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
it can be but it's also used in some countries on rapists and pedophiles


[11-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
reduces their prison time


[11-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Honahue#0656
chemical castration doesn't dissolve the balls or something it just turns them off


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's conflating different kinds of drugs


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
mainly including libido-reducing drugs


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
really terrible terminology if that's standard.


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is that the moment libido-reducing drugs stop, you hav a resurgence


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you're bakk to square one


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a few different one's depending on the country


[11-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it can't really be done for decades.


[11-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you hav people out in society and you hav to rely on them taking it, and you hav to pay for it.


[11-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
it's like parole


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
check with your guy and do a piss test to be sure they take it


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parole is violated with actions, not inaction


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's very hard to catch inaction.


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might stop taking it only one week out of the year.


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
either that or keep them in jail


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you can't hav parole extend someone's entire life...


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not really workable and they'll eventually flee.


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
but if that's the goal then just kill them


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
no need for parole or a cell


[11-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Killing has many other problems.


[11-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't blank-slate this.


[11-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
I know I was being extreme cause it's either life in jail or life on parole


[11-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither are realistic.


[11-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life in jail, parole, or taken away are not options here.


[11-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need an option that can be applied to someone who has committed no crime.


[11-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
To someone who will *desire* it as an alternative to even functioning normally.


[11-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
well the problem is there's no will at all to study pedophilia, even non offenders so


[11-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studying or not, it's very hard to get people to admit to something that basically marks them as an acceptable kill target for society.


[11-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Kinsey did, but they one he interviewed was already in jail I think


[11-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, not already in jail.


[11-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kinsey tho tried to pass it off as many people instead of one.


[11-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was just that hard to get data.


[11-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Kinsey came with a promise he wouldn't turn people in


[11-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this was at a time where getting a blowjob from your wife could land you in jail in many states


[11-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the pedophilia fearmongering is why people are so afraid of children and young teens exploring their sexuality among their peers


[11-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
I've mentioned this before, but in california, there's an inflexible age of consent at 18 years old (it's why everyone thinks the age of consent in the US is 18 everywhere because of hollywood movies, when the age of consent in like 31 states is 16)


[11-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Honahue#0656
it can be straight up lethal for girls might have something to do with it


[11-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
where? certainly not in the US


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex at 16 isn't going to kill anyone


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
kek the US mother mortality is rising


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Birth at 16 maaaaybe


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we hav C sections...that we massively overuse because people want to schedule birth.


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
sex =! birth nowadays


[11-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
and I wasn't just talking penis in vagina sex either


[11-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, in california, two 14 year olds touching each other in their no-no places is considered statutory rape


[11-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Honahue#0656
even Hesiod told men to wait at least 4 year after menarche and that puts most women at around 18 assuming anceint Greek follows the international average not the modern western everage


[11-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm not talking about having vaginal sex with a penis either, I can guarantee that historically, the most common first sexual contact anyone has is hand stimulation


[11-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
fingering and handjobs


[11-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
then there's penetration of course, but also rubbing, grinding, etc


[11-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
oral, anal, and vaginal penetration


[11-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
>anal
>James Joyce


[11-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
kids get caught grinding against each other all the time, and the more conservative a family is, the more extreme their reaction is


[11-Feb-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
@Honahue SSRIs do NOT reduce libido


[11-Feb-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
however, they severely reduce ability to reach orgasm


[11-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
historically, I don't really think people gave a shit what their kids were doing until they were old enough to be helpful in the tribe


[11-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
the can dimish libido


[11-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
but religious nutjobs have made it their business to monitor every tiny little thing children do in order to make sure they conform with their adult view of how they should behave


[11-Feb-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
helicopter/tiger parents are scary


[11-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
adults like to conveniently forget that they were ever children when they view what children do, oftentimes calling on how their parents behaved irrationally and attempting to mimic that same sort of behavior


[11-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
one of the most massive socially acceptable cases of dehumanizing people in the world is adults with children


[11-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
adults like to treat children like they're particularly annoying pets, despite both a child and an adult being human


[11-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
also, I'd like to point out that exploring sexuality doesn't mean making babies too


[11-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Honahue#0656
well there's an easy solution but people hate you for that too, don't have children


[11-Feb-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
are you trying to get antivaxers?


[11-Feb-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
this is how you get antivaxers


[11-Feb-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even worse are parents who mold their children to be clones of thme so thye can live through them


[11-Feb-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
good thing for rebellious kids


[11-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
well in the current situation I think it's a pretty easy case to make that even having kids is unethical to the child


[11-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
not even it a not existing mean no suffering is better than blah blah... just that it looks extremely unlikely that anything will be done in time about climate change so bring a kid into a world that's on the brink of collapse seem pretty fucking cruel


[11-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that an indian dude is suing his parents for giving birth to him


[11-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://qz.com/1545736/suing-your-parents-for-being-born-has-philosophical-support/

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There’s a serious philosophical argument supporting the man suin...
"A life filled with good and containing only the most minute quantity of bad...is worse than no life at all.”
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/babies_1.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[11-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
"A man is suing his parents for giving birth to him without his consent. That might sound ridiculous, but he has a point. The plaintiff behind the lawsuit, 27-year-old Raphael Samuel, believes in “anti-natalism,” namely the philosophical theory that parents do not have moral standing to bring an unwitting child into the world. And there are some seriously legitimate philosophers who advocate for this argument."


[11-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
good maybe it'll teach all those would be parents to think twice before cursing someone with existence


[11-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
people are making fun of him for being a manchild or whatever, but this is a very serious question in philosophy


[11-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah there's a south african guy that wrote a book "Better to have never been" all about it


[11-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
imo, if you can't reliably take care of your child's needs on your own with no support, you should never bring a child into this world


[11-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
he's quoting Oedipus at Korinth for the title too


[11-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
unless we change society so that child rearing isn't a personal responsibility, but a communal responsibility


[11-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
which sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[11-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
even though it turns out that's how you stop teen drinking and violence, going by how well it worked in iceland


[11-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
iceland has been having a problem with teen violence and underage drinking for decades, and the only thing that worked was making a bunch of legal changes for communal responsibility of taking care of kids


[11-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
and legal curfews for kids as well


[11-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
and making it so that anyone who sees unaccompanied children out and about have a moral obligation to at least keep an eye on them and make sure they get home before curfew


[11-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
sure, that's a moral obligation, but I don't think any country has ever made that a legal obligation before


[11-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
on top of a lot of socially funded after-school programs, iceland got teen drinking and teen violence to plummet


[11-Feb-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
sounds like communist propaganda but ok


[11-Feb-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
I just said that >:V


[11-Feb-19 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly i think the red scare ruined a lot of shit   happening for future generations


[11-Feb-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But now the Boomers are dying so we can replace that Red Scare shit with something better


[11-Feb-19 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
the wall falling did more IMO, prior to that US companies still had an existential fear that the workers still might have a revolution so still gotta treat to proles decent but once the USSR fell well obviously socialism doesn't work so no more fear of revolution bust all the unions which were already weakend take all the wealth it doesn't matter the proles know they can't win now


[11-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Honahue#0656
kek honeslty AOC is the boomers biggest scare, young, brown, kinda socialist


[11-Feb-19 05:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unwillign to take the bribe


[11-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/429164-supreme-courts-10th-justice-favors-unusual-tactic-for-trump-cases

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Supreme Court's ‘10th justice’ favors unusual tactic for Trump...
Over the past year, the federal government’s lead Supreme Court litigator has repeatedly attempted to expedite Trump administration cases by using an unorthodox maneuver, one that legal experts say is rarely successful.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/francisconoel_092418getty.jpg


[11-Feb-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Feb-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is Praxis


[11-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder what bernie thinks about cooperatives


[11-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Mikey#7286
hmmm?


[11-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
cooperative is a business model in which every worker owns a piece of the company


[11-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

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Cooperative
A cooperative (also known as co-operative, co-op, or coop) is "an autonomous association of persons united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically-controlled enterprise". Cooperatives may...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/OSG_Co-op_AGM_20050423.jpg/1200px-OSG_Co-op_AGM_20050423.jpg


[11-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
in the same way that a corporation is autocratic, a cooperative is democratic


[11-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[11-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
every worker in a cooperative directly owns a stake in the company


[11-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
versus a board of directors owning a company and appointing people to positions as they see fit


[11-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
which is what a corporation is


[11-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
isn't it ironic how a socialist construct actually encourages more productivity than its capitalist counterpart?


[11-Feb-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-politics/afghan-president-offers-taliban-local-office-but-group-wants-doha-instead-idUSKCN1PZ0G5?il=0

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[11-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Sunday offered the Taliban the possibility of opening an office in Afghanistan but the proposal was swiftly spurned by the group that is determined to keep his government out of accelerating peace talks."


[11-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Ghani has expressed alarm at the Taliban shutting his administration out of negotiations with the United States as well as recent Moscow talks with Afghan opposition politicians, and repeated earlier offers to give the group a secure official address to aid any future diplomacy between the two sides. "


[11-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
wow, apparently "peace" talks in afghanistan are being conducted between the US and taliban without any input from the local government


[11-Feb-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Fat Tire beer is a coop like that, Publix supermarkets are too and Mondragon is probably the biggest company organized that way


[11-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
credit unions are coops


[11-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
ocean spray is also a cooperative


[11-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Spray_(cooperative)

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Ocean Spray is an American  agricultural cooperative of growers of cranberries and grapefruit headquartered in Lakeville/Middleborough, Massachusetts.  It currently has over 700 member growers (in Massachusetts, Wisconsin, New Jersey, Oregon, Washington, Florida, British Colu...
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[11-Feb-19 08:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hey guys want a decent argument to sell alternative energy to right wingers?


[11-Feb-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really, things hav shifted such that it's pretty stupid to not use solar panels.


[11-Feb-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point the right wing will be anti-coal-plant within a decade.


[11-Feb-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll instead be arguing that nuclear and wind shouldn't be helped while solar and natural gas reign supreme.


[11-Feb-19 08:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there are some legit objections to wind power though. but anyways try emphasizing the personal liberty one gets from home solar panels bonus points if you put in electric cars on top of home solar panels imagine a world where the people own their own energy production instead of the goverment


[11-Feb-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
coal is dead, and natural gas killed it


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the yeilds on wind are awfull and birds have a bad habit of running into them I'm in favor of more nuclear power most of the disasters that put people off are the result of older gen 2 plants


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Personal freedom is an obvious argument.


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
also, most solar panels put on homes aren't actually owned by the homeowners, but rented from some other private company


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there aren't legit objections to wind


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
just BS


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
wind power is incredibly disruptive to people who live near them


[11-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But wind is still an easy target because it's expensive and can't really be done on small scales well.


[11-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
_looks across vast empty US landscape in between power-hungry cities_


[11-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that vast empty us is owned by private citizens


[11-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk 'em


[11-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it actually isn't


[11-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and this is why the right resists enviromentalism


[11-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like anything west of the mississippi has huge amounts of federal land


[11-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, the right resists environmentalism because it wants to make money


[11-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't care about people's personal property


[11-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cares about the large corporations that can buy up your personal property


[11-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you don't talk to right wingers a lot do you


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
For all the right cares, eminent domain could be triggered in order to distribute land to the mega corps and that'd be a great investment


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I talk to plenty of 'em


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
most are delusional and don't actually know what's going on.


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
sounds like you're talking to a lot of corpratists


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must understand what's going on here


[11-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
people on the ground say personal freedoms


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
I think he means that you aren't playing along with the fantasy that a lot of conservatives hold in their head about personal freedom


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the party says it too


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Small businesses are the backbone of the American economy"


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
x200


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Coal is dead despite Trump's claim to bring back coal jobs


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even Democrats say that


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not true.


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also not what the actual policy of either party is.


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Mikey#7286
invest in nuclear and solar


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the vast majority of the gop is top to bottom run by corpratists


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Mikey#7286
hydro where you can


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not what the gov't ultimately does, either.


[11-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So right wingers can believe whatever they want


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
the GOP is not libertarian


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the end, nobody listens to them.


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
hydro has caused massive amounts of damage to the biosphere


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
hell, the libertarian party is only socially libertarian


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't actually need to convince right wingers of anything


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I hate the libertarian party they're a bunch of corpratist traitors


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You only need to convince the party.


[11-Feb-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
then look foeward to more radical trumps or worse then


[11-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause their no-dissent approach means the grassroots people can at most elect a crazy loose cannon like Trump.


[11-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then bites them even harder in the ass than normal.


[11-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol trade war destroying farm crop sales


[11-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
gg no re


[11-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then having to SUBSIDIZE farmers even more than they already are


[11-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd be shouting their lungs off if Obama did that with any other industry


[11-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
keep trying to eat away at the gop institutions and you'll inevitable drive the people on the ground to radical third parties or worse full scale revolt


[11-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP institutions are eating away at themselves


[11-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why we're where we are


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's literal game is to destroy the institutions, even the Republican ones


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Senate Republicans are onboard with it


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's a bad thing why


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they created the Congressional Budget Office to prevent crazy spending they alleged Democrats did


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they ignore it when it tells them they're wrong


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav become ravenous locusts upon the land.


[11-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unbound by any morality or consistent ideology


[11-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lie, cheat, and steal and ultimately destroy everything they hold dear.


[11-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not good for anyone.


[11-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
sounds like an iron clad description of the mainstream neoliberal and progressive left


[11-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice attempt to just relabel things without any substance.


[11-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
god where do I start


[11-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
How about


[11-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism finds more support in the GOP than the democratic party, for one


[11-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
where anyone you put under that label


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
ever actually created an institution


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's a cancer in both parties, but it aligns with the GOP on policy more often


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
an independent one


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
then when it told them something they didn't like, they ignored it


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the entire msm is neoliberal/ progressive mutants


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that's a big fukking red flag as far as party behavior.


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, and tell me how the MSM did this


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Mikey#7286
what's wrong with progressivism?


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is not progressive


[11-Feb-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, don't even bother


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's doing the same thing as before


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
progressivism wants to destroy neoliberalism, and vice versa


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where he just throws buzzwords around


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm asking anyway


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of talking about actual things that happened.


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what's wong with progressivism it's projectionist and bigoted


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bla bla bla MSM bla bla bla progressivism


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bla bla bla bigoted


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
add in a dash of neoliberal without actually knowing what it means


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how's ea doing these days


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Mikey#7286
i'll tell you, progressivism is the best course of action


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means liberal, right?


[11-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
both the left and the right in the US are liberal


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Mikey, let's just ignore science and fairness in society


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause uh


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so ciruitous bigotry against minorites is the best course of action


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause dems totally built an independent organization


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then shat on it


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right guys, we can just say both sides are equal and it's true!


[11-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't hav to actually hav any basis to our ideas.


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
"Progressivism is the support for or advocacy of improvement of society by reform.[1] As a philosophy, it is based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition."


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Miiiiikey


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone said white people are bad


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
so everyone that wants progress is just a fool!


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
oh so scientific and technological progress is bad


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
sure


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>meanwhile, actual Democratic party is talking about free healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
oh no


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
>meanwhile, they are actually attempting to prevent excess spending


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
god forbid americans want easier access to healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
>meanwhile, they are also doing so in order to try to restrain excesses of ICE


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but no guys


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
let's talk about how


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN hates white people


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's totally more relevant


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
when every other first world country does a system of socialized healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN controls the world, right?


[11-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
" >meanwhile, they are actually attempting to prevent excess spending "

">meanwhile, actual Democratic party is talking about free healthcare"

my god the doublethink


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
CNN thankfully is rotting into dust


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do know how much we spend on healthcare relative to other countries, right?


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
none


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
private industries spend it all


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
we spend as much per capita on medicare


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
as the UK spends per capita on its entire health system


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
privatized healthcare is the worst


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then we spend a lot more on private healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do you know how high you'll have to raise taxes to get medicare for all


[11-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we pay twice the price for less


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
especially when there's no competition


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
considering the UK has a per capita price equal to medicare


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would indicate we literally wouldn't need to raise taxes


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the UK is an illiberal shithole


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess canada's universal healthcare system is shit


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
oh wait


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who cares what the UK is


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
no it's not


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
what they're doing on healthcare shows we wouldn't need to raise taxes at all


[11-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
to completely remove private healthcare and replace with an NHS style system


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so you're ok with platos rebpublic then ok then


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Mikey#7286
the US is literally the only first world country that relies on private healthcare industries


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care about abstract notions


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
at all


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can call shit whatever you call shit


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I care about what actually fukking happens


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not some fantasy world we can pretend we liv in


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so you're anit communist then


[11-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if the data says we can do this thing and not raise taxes and it'll make people way better


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
maybe we should do it


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism btw had one really, really good aspect to it


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Mikey#7286
in the US, if you need surgery, more people will have to choose between eating and surgery that you really need


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it massively made women's health and happiness improve


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
by removing their social reliance on bending over for men


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and what soviet apologist told you that one


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not to say it's a good economic system


[11-Feb-19 09:10 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
cheaper to see a doctor outside of the US


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not a soviet apologist


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
cheaper to buy drugs outside the US


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
outsource your healthcare today


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
even a republican candidate from 2016 had to go to canada for surgery


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was an analysis of data over time from various countries particularly in eastern europe


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i forgot who it was


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially East Germany


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
because our system is so fucking shitty


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
anyways, Communism was pretty terrible


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
invoking eastern germany in a postive light wow


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but aspects of what it did clearly helped people become less financially dependent on others


[11-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, I don't fukking care about some idealized world


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not was pretty terrible is and always will be terrible


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
where there are just bad people and good people that aren't "terrible"


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is a mess


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Mikey#7286
oh yeah Marco Rubio who criticized socialized healthcare, had to go to Canada to get a hernia fixed


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't find purity very often in nature


[11-Feb-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's unnatural to be pure


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The flowers grow in shit and the insects get killed by zombifying fungus


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to actually make things work


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to figure out the best of the best on everything


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
purity is a concept invented by religion to control people


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's clear most of what communism did was pretty shit and didn't work


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that doesn't mean you couldn't learn a thing or two from it


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Mikey#7286
religion controls everything, or at least a lot of things


[11-Feb-19 09:13 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the problem with the healthcare in this country is multifaceted.  single payer or the public option will only solve half the issue


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
like most think it owns morality


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, the Nazis were pretty dumb, but they figured out giving workers actual vacation time helped improve productivity


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
bull


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
socialism is a religion


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, they then decided to focus on slave labor, which is terrible


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
uh no


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care what you call it


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
or what it is.


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
it's a political system


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
For all I care, it could be the embodiment of pure evil


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism practically has an entire priesthood for itself


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
a religion is something with a god more often than not


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it makes the trains run on time and can be stopped from killing babies doing so


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
maybe we should put it in the train engines


[11-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
an imaginary god that doesn't exist


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and a soclaist utopia dosen't exist


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
where the free market is propped up as god


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and never will exist


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
a capitalist utopia doesn't exist either


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say we find that there's some magic technology that makes excellent train conductor clones


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
and never will exist


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they're all HITLER


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally HITLER


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
MILLIONS OF HITLERS


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
okay, time to make the trains safer


[11-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just keep an eye on all the hitlers


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's acctualy a myth that the trains ran on time in nazi germany


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Mikey#7286
nobody wants a pure socialist society


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a hypothetical


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Mikey#7286
there are facets of socialism that are good


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler could be some kind of amazing rokket propellant


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
one thing that people tend to forget is that there's more than just state-centered socialism


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If so, clone and kill millions of Hitlers


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
go to Mars


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
you can have socialism in which all the businesses are cooperatives


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
corpratism is just socalism through the back door


[11-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
and regulate themselves instead of being regulated by a central government


[11-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, clone them without a brain etc., cause killing Hitler isn't a moral good if he's not doing anything in my ethics system, but that's a minor point


[11-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who cares what it is?


[11-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can call it Shariaism for all I care


[11-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
What matters, and the ONLY thing that matters, is its effects.


[11-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the best society is made by combining corporatism, socialism, communism, and I dunno, something weird like zionism


[11-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Russian_corporatism>


[11-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I guess we're doing corporosociocommuzionism


[11-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
oh wait no, russia is practically a conservative ally at this point


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if only the effects matter you should hate progressivism socalism and communism zenistrad is the product of progressivism


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Chinese_corporatism>


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
there, that's sufficiently evil


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll hav cloned mega Jews running state-owned coroportians that provide free healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, progressivism is a good idea


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it has good effects


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
just everyone gets so caught up on retarded social fights over it that that gets obscured.


[11-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the way people operate on a personal basis


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Mikey#7286
russia is Trump's butt buddy


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what possible good effects can it have. because the perpetuation of bigotry and the censorship of art aren't good things


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Mikey#7286
as is NK


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just go from a struggle to get people to stop hating blakks


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
to people thinking whites and blakks are equal


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why the hell not


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SPYdG7pEno&t=7

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The Simpsons visit Boston (and use our sunscreen dispensers)
Marge Simpson uses one of Boston's free sunscreen dispensers.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_SPYdG7pEno/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get these weird counterreactions where people adopt direct opposite retarded ideologies of what they're trying to fight


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
so progressive


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will misunderstand the message


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
but not stupid progressive


[11-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is just how people work


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it'll never stop untill people just say enough is enough and I'm saying enough is enough


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
a small percentage will decide that european heritage is shameful and say that wearing blakk clothing is against the rules


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It won't stop if you just stop things where they are


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't stop things


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
the reaction continues without input


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how people are.


[11-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are constantly fighting, competing, pushing.


[11-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
what is it with the left and it's contempt of free will


[11-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't one


[11-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The world is just this messy place where even doing nothing is a huge action with huge consequences


[11-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can completely isolate yourself and it won't stop anything


[11-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
this is the reasoning of an ideological fanatic


[11-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that


[11-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you want to actually get things better


[11-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to, I dunno, talk to other people and do things better yourself


[11-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is always some trajectory


[11-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just pretend that there is no momentum and that everything will stop if we somehow flip a switch.


[11-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the current state isn't that people think blakks are equal


[11-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that a small subset of people think blakks are equal


[11-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the vast majority of people still think they're somewhat inferior, and a small subset think they're greatly inferior


[11-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
again the contempt and misanthropy of the left on full display


[11-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is any of what I'm saying showing that?


[11-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is just telling you that racism exists somehow saying that I hate humanity?


[11-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you saying that talking about the vast majority means vast majority are the left?


[11-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that the second small subset is the left?


[11-Feb-19 09:25 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you automaticly default to the "all people are racist" bs which stems from a deep misanthropy of human nature


[11-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism has an incredibly long history and you're fukking stupid if you can't see that.


[11-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's the basis of virtually all national identities


[11-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
going bakk to the dawn of written history as far as archeologists can tell


[11-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're the stupid one if you think all nations are ethnostates


[11-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what I'm saying


[11-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
National identities rely on identifying particular groups that aren't okay, and groups that are


[11-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't need be the case that it's 1 in-group and all others are out-groups


[11-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it is usually the case that ethnicity is strongly tied to identifying who is in the nation


[11-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
including those that are currently under the rule of another nation and "need to be liberated" etc.


[11-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
way to contradict yourself


[11-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying something more complex than a soundbite is contradicting myself, I see


[11-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you don't want to actually debate


[11-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The existence of racism isn't some phantom stemming from misanthropy


[11-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
if you're saying that national identity is strongly tied to ethnicity you are saying all nations are ethnostates which isn't the case


[11-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is well-attested to in history not just of the US but of pretty much any country you can name until modern times


[11-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those aren't the same statements.


[11-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
An ethnostate restricts citizenship based on ethnicity


[11-Feb-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
National identity is not citizenship


[11-Feb-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a concept used to make people feel they belong to a nation, which may not even exist as a country


[11-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the disease you're dancing around but just can't see apparently is collectivism


[11-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, racism is slowly dying because old people are dying and havn't spread it enuff to the younger generations to keep it around.


[11-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can see it just fine, it's pretty terrible, but it's mostly confined to Asia


[11-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan/Singapore, few others


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
primacy of the group over the individual. this way of thinking is the source of all the horrible things of the world


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Collectivism is SUPPOSED to be part of Communism, but the Soviets never really cared that strongly.


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it's not just confined to asia it's everywhere


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an idea that stems from tribal times


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tribe comes before the individual


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not something new


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor is it the root of all evil


[11-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
what type of collectivism are you talking about? because there's a difference between the oppressive collectivism of asia and the relatively benign collectivism of multiple people working together on the same task to get it done faster


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former, Crow


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
the latter isn't "collectivism"


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
talking to harazu


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're confusing collectivism for group association


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Collectivism as a concept is a societal thing


[11-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
where you do what the gov't/tribal elders/mob of people say


[11-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it's *not* the "greater good", that's slightly different, prioritizing helping more people even if it hurts a few)


[11-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core idea of collectivism is *you* don't matter, the *society* matters


[11-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's more than just that. it's also surrending your individual identity to a group and demanding that other people in your percived ingroup be like the ingroup


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you wearing tattoos makes society displeased, you must remove them or go away.


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is simply an implication of it.


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, everyone makes it out to be as if there can't be anything less than balls to the wall oppressive collectivism that creates absurdly high suicide rates on top of absurdly low birth rates


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
and not something less extreme


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because society matters more, and society requires cohesion, it demands you stay close to everyone else for cohesion.


[11-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what conservatives love, btw


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
this is what progressives love just as much


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've ever seen any attempt at anything less


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extreme unity by being very similar in ideals and such


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
progressives are diverse as fuck


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, you can actually look at how the parties behave


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats will constantly bikker about things like abortion or healthcare


[11-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans however shut any dissent down *fast*


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no they're not not in the way that matters they all think the same


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"the way that matters"


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
twitter: need I say more


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so cherrypikking without even showing your cherries, now


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
nice


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just pretend a cherry branch is here etc.


[11-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
twitter is a private company


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does what anyone says on twitter matter to what the parties do?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
twitter is a cespool of left wing collectivst moralism


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does that mean that in actual practice leftists are more collectivist?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can you show policy examples?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or perhaps Obama's actions?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe Bill Clinton's?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or Bernie or Hillary's actual policy plans?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no platforming


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or specifics of what voters wanted them to do within the party?


[11-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
afirmative action


[11-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean no platforming?


[11-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, how are either of these collectivist?


[11-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who promoted them?


[11-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/no-platforming

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no-platforming | Definition of no-platforming in English by Oxford...
Definition of no-platforming - the action or practice of preventing someone holding views regarded as unacceptable or offensive from contributing to a public deb
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[11-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you mean deplatforming


[11-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do I need to pull up the long list of dissident speakers no platformed by universities


[11-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who did this?


[11-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not accepting anything about universities


[11-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially if what actually happened is students said no, and then person didn't show


[11-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
or in Canada's case, person could be arrested for saying minorities should be harmed, person decided to not attempt to get minorities harmed.


[11-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
doing that is an inherently collectivist action. the integrety of the feelings of the ingroup come at the detriment of the individuals who want to hear the no platformed person speak


[11-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't


[11-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's not tyranical how?


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not debating whether something's "trynannical", pretty much ever.


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to not letting someone spew hatred


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah m8, regressives are a hivemind, progressives are not


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Technically it is putting overall needs ahead of individual ones


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and you're just playing semantics games


[11-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this is an awful stretch to say that we hav to giv everyone a soapbox


[11-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's called freedom of speech


[11-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav a right to come speak at ____ and say that blakk people don't deserve things because they hav to pull themselves up by their bootstraps (after whites destroyed their communities and forced them into low-grade rentals)


[11-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't


[11-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you do not hav a right to speak at a university


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the university has no obligation to giv you their soapbox


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's their soapbox, they own it


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can control who speaks on it


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and what they say on it


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if you buy a soapbox


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
should it be forced that I can speak on it?


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
universities don't have a right to shut down people attending the university


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
acctualy they do for some universities. public universties are bound to the consitutiona nd they must respect the free speech rights of every citizen


[11-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because, as you see


[11-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would clearly benefit society


[11-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
if you aren't attending the university, you don't have any protection


[11-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I could speak on your soapbox


[11-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
your personal rights be damned


[11-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing in the 1st amendment says you hav to giv people soapboxes


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just can't, like, throw them in jail or take stuff away for what they say if you are part of the gov't


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you never, ever


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you'll never be rid of dissenters then if this is your additude towards their human rights


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
are required to just hand over a big podium


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a human right to hav a big podium


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
... since when were human rights being discussed?


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's another buzzword, Crow


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
that's a non-sequitur if I've ever seen one


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's full of 'em


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
his entire argument


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
is non-sequiturs and fallacies


[11-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
than I will always be your enemy


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
with loose stitching between them.


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
untill the day I die


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, well, I feel pretty safe then


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
to the bitte bloody end


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause if this is you acting intelligently


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're retarded.


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you're insane


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't take intelligence to beat someone over the head with a club, it's the only reason why we aren't super intelligent demigods by now


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
ad hominem alert


[11-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
you lose


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
do not pass go


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
do not collect $200


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes intelligence to get up to someone with a club.


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Mikey#7286
420


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
.q 420


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[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
harazu irl


[11-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, we still need to talk about trans people in the military


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I look forward to whatever buzzwords and talking points are floating around the BLOGOSPHERE


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Crow#5457
don't fap too furiously to the loli now


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Crow, the loli is going to make an argument about cost


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just know it


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I have absolutly no respect for your "intellgience"


[11-Feb-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
you know sometimes I'm hoping we get slammed by a 370 meter asteroid


[11-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You probably should considering it's how humanity came to absolutely destroy Earth's biosphere for its own ends


[11-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
at least the planet would be rid of idiots


[11-Feb-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Mikey, we're having species die off at a similar rate to getting hit by a much larger asteroid than that.


[11-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I have nothing but contempt for your entire poltical movment so blinded by your doublethink and partisanship you can't see that literaly everything you say about your opposition is true about you


[11-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love the buzzwords


[11-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they totally make it seem like you hav an actual point behind them.


[11-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lol


[11-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[11-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if life wouldn't be better for me if I could be that blindly hateful


[11-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone with complicated ideas? DOUBLETHINK. Anyone who doesn't accept that we're already equal and any attempts at equality with trying for science-based rational policy are just horrible reverse racism? PARTISANSHIP


[11-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
have fun losing


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
forever and ever


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump is what losing feels like...damn it's great


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
screw what actual scientists say I guess lol


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you'll never understand


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
why people hate you


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, it's a bit annoying that he's trashing important parts of the country


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
indeed


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
have fun losing over and over again


[11-Feb-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But damn it's pretty nice to see him also trash the hatefulness in his party by showing how retarded it is


[11-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
orange man bad rinse wash repeat


[11-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Mikey#7286
orange man retarded


[11-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and strengthening liberal institutions alongside ones Republicans set up to actually work and weren't able to take down


[11-Feb-19 09:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
rinse wash repeat rinse wash repeat rinse wash repeat


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Mikey#7286
commander in cheif who validates dictators and tosses insults on twitter


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real bipartisanship is when Democrats and the CBO come up with ideas on how legislation could actually work


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Mikey#7286
leader of the free world


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Mikey#7286
hahahah


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
orange mad bad rinse wash repeat


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the Republican party ain't actually interested in improving anything


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
orange man party bad rinse wash repeat


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things like the CBO are the parts of it that actually work


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice memes


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Mikey#7286
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[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you actually hav anything to say on actual legislation?


[11-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
or is it all just bullshit about what people say?


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Mikey#7286
Orange man good saying shit like this?


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause talking over and over about what people say about what people say about what people say...


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Mikey#7286
don't make me laugh


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
isn't that one of the big conservative grips with the "MSM"


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it regurgitates over and over into different mouths and produces ever worse garbage?


[11-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Mikey#7286
giving validation to a dictator who is brutal to his citizens


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that's what lengthy arguments about how LEFTISTS are evil because they said RIGHTIES are evil because they said something is


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What actually matters is what happens


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/MikailiR/status/1094304591682756608

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[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, what policies happen


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
do your echo chamber a favor and boot me from politics please


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
what enforcement happens


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, you clearly enjoy suffering.


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say, what do you think about Trump's foreign policy?


[11-Feb-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you...actually think about it?


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not even going to waste my time


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Mikey#7286
hey trump had a good idea, we should make the president president for life


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how stupid do you think I am


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you'll waste your time bemoaning about PROGRESSIVES


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Mikey#7286
he said it was a good idea


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Mikey#7286
and we should try it sometimes


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it you think it's a better use of time to bitch and moan about some idiots on twitter


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
than it is what the US does diplomatically with other powers?


[11-Feb-19 09:58 AM] Mikey#7286
trump knows better than me, he's the president of the US after all


[11-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, is your entire life twitter and how some guy got banned cause he said fags deserve to burn?


[11-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Mikey#7286
bad progressives


[11-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not caring about how there's an actual policy in place that is kikking out fit service members because they wanted to change their gender and were pretty upset about it?


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Mikey#7286
they're terrible, advocating for scientific progress, economic and all


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Mikey#7286
horrible people


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But MIIIIIKEY


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of them called me a doodoo head


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Mikey#7286
i didn't know science was bad


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause I said not to care about people dying in Puerto Rico!!!!111!!


[11-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Mikey#7286
serves me right


[11-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then...*sniffling*


[11-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They they...they didn't let me talk at MIT


[11-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Mikey#7286
i'll never forget the day I was told that scientific progress for the betterment of mankind is bad


[11-Feb-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
about how Puerto Ricans aren't really people!


[11-Feb-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I grew up white dammit, I deserve a soapbox just like that one guy on twitter that called me a doodoo head!


[11-Feb-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was allowed to speak at a charity once about how we should cure HIV in Africa!


[11-Feb-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's terrible!


[11-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Mikey#7286
hahaha


[11-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The amount of fukking entitlement is off the charts.


[11-Feb-19 10:03 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[11-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Mikey#7286
@Theadora Keshtah m8, you know what's wrong, you're literally implying that scientific progress, technological progress, economic, and social progress are bad when you say progressivism is bad


[11-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, he thinks that it's all a LIE


[11-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's just saying it wants to actually help people, and that its true goal is to enrich Jeff Bezos


[11-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Mikey#7286
lol it's not


[11-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that somehow, casual reverse racism accomplishes this goal and is related to the neolibs


[11-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the left is clearly just one large entity guys


[11-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Mikey#7286
yep


[11-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind this makes no sense as a plan, you wouldn't really be able to use that kind of racial conflict to actually distract people because it'd just lead right bakk to the wealth inequality...


[11-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, there *is* a distraction involved, but it's in making token efforts toward equality to try to slow down the pace so that liberals don't end up with actual equality


[11-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the conservative side of things is to say there is equality when there really isn't


[11-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to just keep digging a bigger hole for itself in getting the dirt to bury anyone's doubts


[11-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given the choice, I'd take the left side of things on that, even tho it's still shitty.


[11-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But again, his core argument is to do false equivalency.


[11-Feb-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
To say Both Sides Are Bad, So Vote Republican (or you're just a partisan)


[11-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @Theadora Keshtah I have nothing but contempt for your entire poltical movment so blinded by your doublethink and partisanship you can't see that literaly everything you say about your opposition is true about you


[11-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Theadora Keshtah: I have nothing but contempt for your entire poltical movment so blinded by your doublethink and partisanship you can't see that literaly everything you say about your opposition is true about you)


[11-Feb-19 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/trump-put-a-koch-official-in-charge-of-americas-drinking-water

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Trump Quietly Planted a Top Koch Official Inside the E.P.A.
How much cancer is too much cancer? Let Koch’s expert on water and chemical regulations decide.
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[11-Feb-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Trump administration has placed a former Koch Industries official in charge of research that will shape how the government regulates a class of toxic chemicals contaminating millions of Americans’ drinking water—an issue that could have major financial repercussions for his former employer.

David Dunlap, a deputy in E.P.A.’s Office of Research and Development, is playing a key role as the agency decides how to protect people from the pollution left behind at hundreds of military bases and factories across the country. . .He spent the previous eight years as Koch Industries’ lead expert on water and chemical regulations, a position that typically includes helping companies to limit regulatory restrictions and liability for cleanups.


[11-Feb-19 11:24 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[11-Feb-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do these Italians even know what Warhammer 40k is, lol


[11-Feb-19 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Feb-19 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is the slope being fun for you, Donny?


[11-Feb-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/australian-teens-ignore-anti-vaxxer-parents-by-getting-secret-vaccinations

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Australian Teens Ignore Anti-Vaxxer Parents by Getting Secret Vacc...
Some have griped about their parents’ views on modern science.
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[11-Feb-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
True rebels


[11-Feb-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47198426

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Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
Russia may briefly disconnect from the internet as part of a test of its cyber-defences.
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[11-Feb-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good riddance https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47196266

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'Freedom fries' congressman dies at 76
Walter Jones, who originally supported the Iraq war, later became one of its most vocal critics.
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[11-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, stop being evil violent death-wishing socialist >:V


[11-Feb-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck was going on in here last night @Nebbie


[11-Feb-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The usual.


[11-Feb-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
bla bla bla liberals are hateful contradictory bigots how dare you besmirch the Republican party as being any worse than them


[11-Feb-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Top with enuff buzzwords to create clikkbait and you've got an alt right argument


[11-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize that it's all suburbs that decide elections, right?


[11-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that these suburbs have been going blue for a decade plus?


[11-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At best, they are swing.


[11-Feb-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mistress-lauren-sanchezs-brother-leaked-bezos-racy-texts-to-enquirer-sources-say-7

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Mistress’ Brother Leaked Bezos Texts to Enquirer
Multiple sources tell The Daily Beast that Michael Sanchez, a Trumpworld associate and brother to Bezos’ lover, gave the couple’s texts to the National Enquirer.
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[11-Feb-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally fucking "Notice me Trump-senpai, notice me"


[11-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically


[11-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The source is much less interesting than The Enquirer's blatant extortion mail


[11-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bezo's mistress has a brother that leaked his texts to The Enquirer


[11-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The brother is super pro-Trump


[11-Feb-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the extortion was based around "Say the Enquirer isn't politically biased"


[11-Feb-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly, ultimately connected to the Sauds being upset that they talked about Khashoggi being murdered


[11-Feb-19 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It could have been "boop your nose", they're still going to get railed for it


[11-Feb-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump knew about the efforts to ruin Bezos, too


[11-Feb-19 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084627451983073280

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So sorry to hear the news about Jeff Bozo being taken down by a competitor whose reporting, I understand, is far more accurate than the reporting in his lobbyist newspaper, the Amazon Washington Post. Hopefully the paper will soon be placed in better & more responsible han...
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[11-Feb-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I'm amazed he isn't running in 2020


[11-Feb-19 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
What if the ghost of Eugene V. Debs Rose from the grave and declared his presidency.


[11-Feb-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just fucking, "Arrest me now bitch when I can walk through the bars."


[11-Feb-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Appoints Bernie as VP


[11-Feb-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Re-radicalizes him


[11-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Honahue#0656
There's nothing in the Constitution saying ghosts can't run so long has they're older that 35


[11-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
are ghost ages counted from when they were originally born, or when their body died?


[11-Feb-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[11-Feb-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
I thought Trump would love bezos


[11-Feb-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
They're both greedy billionaires who have taken advantage of workers


[11-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh sorry "billionaire" Trump isn't one


[11-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bezos is actually successful running a real business, though


[11-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is just a conman with daddy's money


[11-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Jimmyjamno1#7284
bezos is also trying to build a rocket


[11-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah but he treats his workers like shit


[11-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Mikey#7286
@Jimmyjamno1 I wonder how that'll go


[11-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Mikey#7286
IMO he's only doing it because he has the money


[11-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just saying, Trump has massive envy


[11-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[11-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Mikey#7286
He does


[11-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Careful, you can't publicly discuss even the slightest amount of criticism against Trump or his policies without being called deranged.


[11-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just remembering it was like this during the GW Bush years


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Bezos is worth over 130B


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Jimmyjamno1#7284
I think elon musks BFR rocket can go to the moon, but it seems too small to send several people to mars for several months


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So many people chose GW Bush support as their hill to die on, got so upset about any criticism


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now? No one gives a fuck. Tons concede that he was pretty shitty.


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[11-Feb-19 09:19 PM] Jimmyjamno1#7284
I think elon musk should focus on the moon first for a bit


[11-Feb-19 09:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[11-Feb-19 09:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Maybe help with a moon base for future missions to other parts of the solar system


[11-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because nationalism, Its.


[11-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't criticize the current president, that makes you in league with his enemies! etc.


[11-Feb-19 10:00 PM] Honahue#0656
I think NASA should focus on the moon Musks should stick to leo


[11-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA's moon plans are retarded


[11-Feb-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-on-russia-probes-its-not-like-this-is-benghazi-or-whitewater?source=articles&via=rss

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‘Fox & Friends’ Dismiss Russia Probes: It’s Not Like This Is...
‘They’re having just a wide swath look at a 50-year business career. How is that acceptable?’ asked the host of Trump’s favorite morning show.
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[11-Feb-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
True. Whitewater and Benghazi didn't end in a bunch of convictions


[11-Feb-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they did, fox and friends are trumps beloved whore puppies


[12-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://twitter.com/fightcl5b/status/1094552293414969344

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[12-Feb-19 05:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[12-Feb-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol bunch of losers


[12-Feb-19 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda wanna see the god emporor trump holding fat baby trump with his big ass claw hand


[12-Feb-19 06:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/288-so-you-want-to-start-a-union-feat-brace-belden-21019

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288 - So You Want To Start A Union feat. Brace Belden (2/10/19)
Longtime friend of the show Brace stops by to tell us about his work unionizing Anchor Steam brewing in San Francisco. We also talk about Amy Klobuchar's unique brand of "Minnesota Nice" and dealing w
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[12-Feb-19 06:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
TFW dat monologue on steroids by Felix


[12-Feb-19 06:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[12-Feb-19 08:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-attacks-leftist-retards-calls-cnns-ana-navarro-a-little-piglet

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Roger Stone Attacks ‘Leftist Retards,’ Calls CNN’s Ana Nava...
Trump’s former adviser also accused Don Lemon of wearing fake glasses to look intelligent.
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[12-Feb-19 08:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude you're the guy who has a Nixon tattoo. Glass houses.


[12-Feb-19 08:22 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[12-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Waiting for someone to just go "kys lmao"


[12-Feb-19 08:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazed more people don't say that at this point.


[12-Feb-19 08:29 AM] illumnious#7938

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[12-Feb-19 08:30 AM] illumnious#7938
Where’s your wall boy


[12-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
🖤


[12-Feb-19 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
god, roger stone is so cringy with that "how do you do, fellow kids" bullshit


[12-Feb-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*You can't call me crooked, only i can call me crooked! That's our word!*


[12-Feb-19 03:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Little piglet"


[12-Feb-19 03:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What kind of insult is that lol


[12-Feb-19 03:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@illumnious fun fact: "love your country or leave it" was the motto of Brazil's torture-happy military dictatorship


[12-Feb-19 03:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, that


[12-Feb-19 03:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
She's at it again. this time on TV. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anti-brexit-protestor-appears-completely-naked-good-morning-britain-101920267.html

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Anti-Brexit protestor appears completely naked on 'Good Morning Br...
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[12-Feb-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/02/military-to-investigate-decision-to-certify-the-falcon-heavy-rocket/

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Military to investigate decision to certify the Falcon Heavy rocket
"We plan to begin the subject evaluation in February 2019."
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[12-Feb-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, someone at ULA just realized the FH is pretty much only gonna be used to kill the Delta IV Heavy while New Glenn takes over anything else, so they poked the Boeing guys in the Air Force to try to stall


[12-Feb-19 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump might consider other options for wall even if he signs spending deal, WH official says https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-might-consider-other-options-build-wall-even-if-he-n970491

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On Monday, a bipartisan group of lawmakers reached an agreement on border security to keep the government open past Friday.
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[12-Feb-19 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938
BOY IF YOU DARE


[12-Feb-19 07:18 PM] Honahue#0656
The FH has blown up twice one of those was a top secret satellite while Boeing has over twice as many launches and no rapid unplanned disassembly there's a good reason to wonder if Space X cut corners just to get a contract


[12-Feb-19 07:22 PM] Honahue#0656
the TS satellite that blew up was also while the rocket was fueling which hasn't happened for NASA since the 60's somewhere Space X wasn't taking lessons that had already been learned


[12-Feb-19 07:24 PM] Mikey#7286
@illumnious if he does he sealed him not being reelected


[12-Feb-19 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[12-Feb-19 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
the FH hasn't blown up


[12-Feb-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's only launched once


[12-Feb-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They lost the center booster


[12-Feb-19 07:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/JakeJarvisWV/status/1094823914973421568

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[12-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, a single reusable booster failed to ignite because some idiot forgot to refuel the landing part, it's only ever been launched once


[12-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
out of three of them


[12-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
the other two landed


[12-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally nothing wrong with the rocket, this is probably going to be the longest we've ever seen anything get delayed from being certified after a successful test launch


[12-Feb-19 08:02 PM] ononim#8141
Also I am usually not one to shit on people because of their appearance but
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[12-Feb-19 08:02 PM] ononim#8141
I wonder what this guy sacrificed to God Hand before becoming an apostle


[12-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
christ that guy looks creepy as fuck


[12-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
apparently he doubled down on his statements, even though the WV republican party has denounced them


[12-Feb-19 08:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-47198426 Russia ghey. 🇷🇺 🏳️‍🌈

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Russia considers 'unplugging' from internet
Russia may briefly disconnect from the internet as part of a test of its cyber-defences.
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[12-Feb-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/economy/jolts-december/index.html

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Employers need to hire more people than ever
The economy may be slowing down, but as of December, it was still a very good time to look for a job, according to the Labor Department's job openings survey.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190212123817-job-openings-hiring-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[12-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
>Job creation was particularly strong in construction and accommodation and food services, while manufacturing job openings fell.


[12-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
OH BOY


[12-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
IF YOU WANNA FLIP BURGERS OR CLEAN HOTEL ROOMS, NOWS YOUR CHANCE!!!!


[12-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
also blue collar work too, but that takes longer and a certain mindset to get into


[12-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
construction, welding, electrician, etc


[12-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
no one wants to weld anymore because of how nasty the conditions are


[12-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
so there's a ton of old welders making shitloads of money


[12-Feb-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/us/el-chapo-guzman-trial-verdict/index.html

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Mexican drug lord Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzmán is found guilty on al...
A federal jury in New York has found Sinaloa cartel boss Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzmán Loera guilty of all 10 criminal counts against him, including the top charge of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise. He faces a mandatory sentence of life in prison.
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[12-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Two *Falcon 9*s exploded.


[12-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of them exploded by overpressure, Dragon capsule got flung out and sadly wasn't designed to deploy chutes


[12-Feb-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they thought they'd never need to until Dragon 2 was doing crew)


[12-Feb-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The other had a COPV's carbon fiber ignite and exploded in a fiery way


[12-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
people love to espouse the glories of the free market, but any random dude off the streets can tell you that there is no such thing as a free market


[12-Feb-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yale-fraternities-lawsuit-women-claim-sexual-harassment-at-fraternity-events-ask-to-integrate-women/

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Women claiming sexual harassment at Yale fraternities take unexpec...
Three students accuse Yale and fraternities of allowing "dangerous environments" -- but does their lawsuit have contradictory goals?
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[12-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
"Three female students are suing Yale University and nine of its fraternities, asking a federal court to force fraternities to accept women as members. They accuse Yale and the fraternities of allowing "dangerous environments in which sexual misconduct thrived.""


[12-Feb-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
"They said fraternity houses dominate a limited social scene around campus, one that needs to be wiped clean of sexual harassment and gender discrimination, reports CBS News' Meg Oliver. "


[12-Feb-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
"Their lawsuit against Yale and nine fraternities argues "'separate but equal' Greek life reinforces gender norms, stereotypes, and prejudices." They're seeking class action status, asking the court to award damages and to order policy changes, including "fully integrating women" at Yale's fraternities."


[12-Feb-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Greek life takes a lot of heat for the shit they do


[12-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
it also offers much better networking than sororities, apparently


[12-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
which actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it


[12-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
maybe the real reason why there's so few women in STEM is because they just can't get the connections they need to get good jobs as easily as men


[12-Feb-19 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
(And also because of the influence gender roles has on women who mostly pursue legitimately different interests)


[12-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
the lack of connections would also have an effect on women continuing their STEM career path or deciding to persue something else that they have a better chance at getting into


[12-Feb-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you remember the name of that article linked recently about the shitty water in appalachia?


[12-Feb-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
I can't find it for some reason


[12-Feb-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/649850498/you-just-don-t-touch-that-tap-water-unless-absolutely-necessary

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'You Just Don't Touch That Tap Water Unless Absolutely Necessary'
America's water infrastructure is in need of a major upgrade. Leaks in the ailing system mean that across the U.S., places like Kentucky's Martin County lack clean drinking water, with no easy fixes.
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[12-Feb-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
that wasn't the one, the one I saw was more like one of those biography sort of articles, and from 2019


[12-Feb-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
I'm 90% sure it was linked in here


[12-Feb-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, found it https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47165522


[12-Feb-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
I read it from google news or something, it wasn't linked here


[12-Feb-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
hmm, no preview


[12-Feb-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-governor-rail/california-will-not-complete-77-billion-high-speed-rail-project-governor-idUSKCN1Q12II


[12-Feb-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
>California Governor Gavin Newsom said on Tuesday the state will not complete a $77.3 billion planned high-speed rail project, but will finish a smaller section of the line.


[12-Feb-19 10:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
"We're just going to wait to see what automated cars bring." says Governor, having promised public transportation project to ease congestion, probably.


[12-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/12/mitch-mcconnell-to-force-the-senate-to-vote-on-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal.html

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Mitch McConnell is going to force the Senate to vote on Alexandria...
"I've noted with great interest the Green New Deal, and we're going to be voting on that in the Senate to give everybody an opportunity to go on record," McConnell told reporters.
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[12-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[12-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
apparently mcconnell wants to attempt to humilate cortez by showing how few people will vote for the green new deal


[12-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
that's the only explanation I can come up for this


[12-Feb-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get the thing about cow farts though, it's been proven that cow farts contribute basically nothing to greenhouse gases


[12-Feb-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
it's not worth attempting to regulate


[12-Feb-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so this will either backfire on mcconnell or prove him right


[12-Feb-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bold strategy, turtle. Let's see how it pans out


[12-Feb-19 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
I feel like it'll backfire on him


[12-Feb-19 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[12-Feb-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
'He then had his water tested and was warned that it was so toxic that, if he washed his clothes in it, there was a risk that direct sunlight could actually set them on fire.'


[12-Feb-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to capitalism.


[12-Feb-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds like a fun time...


[12-Feb-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
is this the radicalization that all people go through when they get older


[12-Feb-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
because the more they look into the problem with an open mind, the more they realize that the whole system is set up to end up this way


[12-Feb-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, making it be YOU WANT TO REGULATE COW FAAAARTS is a way conservatives can make the left look like big brother regulator and not actually practical


[12-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
the worst is when they say that they want to regulate human breathing and human farts


[12-Feb-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'd make an t.i. joke but we already turned america off and on again and nothing changed


[12-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a way that also makes farmers angry


[12-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not so much the farts


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's cutting down the rainforest/monoculturing corn to feed cows that is the big part


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why I almost want there to be more lab grown meat


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but that's hardly ever talked about, Its


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we did that ages ago


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because then we can cut back on the destruction that factory farming does


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the cutting down now is being done for soybeans


[13-Feb-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
to grow biodiesel


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
what about that hydroponics thing for cow food


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lab grown meat is gonna change a lot


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republicans under Bush coopted the idea of growing fuel in order to exploit the third world's natural resources and cause more global warming


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XYLEliMhQ


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lab grown burger is $2


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
even I think that shit looks tasty as fuck


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Real burger is $10


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
and I can't even digest it


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
While boosting soybean and corn exports


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
whatever you do


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Republican party wants to either fight it or corrupt it


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
I don't mean as a substitute to destructive farming methods


[13-Feb-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
capitalism is a fungus


[13-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
I mean as a stopgap measure until lab-grown meat is up to par


[13-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cows are horrible for the environment, yes


[13-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we can't reasonably take them out yet


[13-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if we try to do anything, it will be too little, and it will just giv Republicans ammunition


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
While lab meat is being researched, things hav to be focused to avoid McConnell and his dirty trikks


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
states are already being bribed to de facto ban lab-grown meat


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
before it's even on the market


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you can get McConnell to be supporting that


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
to be supporting overbroad regulation stupidity


[13-Feb-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
you undermine the Republican platform


[13-Feb-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause now he's the one doing stupid shit about cows.


[13-Feb-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how the political games involved with this work.


[13-Feb-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, some people will waste time on cow farts anyways.


[13-Feb-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In a sense, institutional politics are just a very intricate game of "no u"


[13-Feb-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, you hav to get the people trying to break everything to be pushing stupidity


[13-Feb-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
which isn't really that hard, given they're the ones trying to break everything...


[13-Feb-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see: healthcare)


[13-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
uh, am I doing this right? I'm trying to figure out how much CO2 humanity produces a year by just exhaling


[13-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
it says 2.3 lb average per day per human


[13-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's 7,700,000,000 humans, 2.3 lb, 365 days


[13-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
because if I'm doing it right, that's 2.93*10^9 metric tons of CO2 a year


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind there's a natural stability between what we exhale and what plants can process


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=77&t=11


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
holy christ


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
similar happens with the ocean absorbing and releasing CO2


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
1207 million metric tons a year from coal alone


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
in the US alone


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think people are trying to make coal go the fukk away?


[13-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
that's 1.2 billion metric tons


[13-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
With deinvestment, banning its sale in their ports, etc.


[13-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
humanity's breathing is 2.93 billion metric tons


[13-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is plants can deal with our breathing, but not our breathing plus our coal plants


[13-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, most coal plants are now in China/India


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
petroleum's only 19 million metric tons


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
in the US


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
India thankfully is cancelling all the new ones because solar is ridiculously cheap


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, cars are a secondary target compared to coal


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is why coal is massively under the gun


[13-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and why Republicans are fighting it, not EVs


[13-Feb-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
there doesn't seem to be any global tally on how much CO2 is produced by coal power plants


[13-Feb-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
I remember when I was like 8 I told my mom that I'd vote for al gore during the 2000 election because he was wearing a blue tie, and bush was wearing a red tie


[13-Feb-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
and I remember she said something along the lines of "and this is why we have a voting age"


[13-Feb-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there wouldnt be, because coal plants woudl probably want to keep that unknown to the general public


[13-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[13-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got an Xbox One X and a Ryzen 5


[13-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he'll be fine


[13-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Physically, yes


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he'll kill himself at 20


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His demographic is more likely to go postal than nearly any other


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
There has been a large increase in the number of children diagnosed with depression


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wel that or die at 30 when the next extinction event happens


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and an increase in suicide rates and mental health problems as a whole.


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think we've had so many incel shootings that it's what I expect now vs Islamic extremism


[13-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had to explain to my parents what an "incel" was after one of them


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth inequality leads to severe social problems.


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The lower and middle classes are rotting.


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once my parents are gone i'll probably be living in a box


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wasted their wealth on college only to find that jobs are scarce outside the megacities.


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that housing is a pipe dream.


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Not just wealth inequality


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The push towards STEM is a giant trick


[13-Feb-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
But the degradation of sexuality


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is continuous and ongoing


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you think will happen to the value/pay of STEM jobs when all these people join them


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No marriage means no stability


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm in hvac and even i;m having trouble believing that will go anywhere


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will stay high, Its


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't you get it?


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will just demand ever higher standards


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
while automation cuts out the lower stuff


[13-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire problem here is


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
I want to get into stem because I love researching things


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
wealth inequality is happening because jobs now pretty much need a master's degree


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even then, you need the connections of a rich dad to get many


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you need to be in a city where all the business growth is


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the rural areas are getting no business growth, and if you grow up there, you hav no connections


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey


[13-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
STEM will continually excel


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Opioid dealer is technically a business


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it will rise to new heights alongside Silicon Valley and other tech industry


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if i took my not yet obtained associates degree in hvac to a job interview only to be told that i need a masters in hvac dewspite there likely not even beign a masters for this trade...


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the whole result of neoliberalism


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rampant capitalism leading to amazing growth


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
on paper, at a glance, the numbers look great


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
crazy GDP, innovation everywhere


[13-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that growth is created at the expense of the working class


[13-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is enabled by taking their money and dumping it on the rich and their factories


[13-Feb-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's amazing int heory and on paper, but applied to reality the innovation is coming from very few sources and the GDP isnt doing anything for regular people


[13-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The push for STEM is a push to elevate the rich ever higher, unfortunately


[13-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, this will cause some kind of economic collapse


[13-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause you can only grow higher like this so long without a solid base


[13-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
if suddenly nobody can afford to buy their netflix subscription, your tech company can't grow any more


[13-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and falls apart


[13-Feb-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ricxh of society are basically buildign themselves an upsidedown pyramid over society


[13-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, rampant crime and homelessness


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bring back radical unionism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo

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Solidarity Forever (Pete Seeger)
This is a worker's anthem by Pete Seeger. Thank you for watching comrades!
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[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If nothing is done, there will be a great depression.


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let's make the Haymarket Affair national!


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will probably happen when the next major outbreak comes


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we hav many people who literally couldn't afford vaccinations


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just people who said no


[13-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, if Ebola made it to Kentucky


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the economy would collapse in a few years


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unliek the last great depression i fear this one will be far more broken with nothing in sight to actually end it


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
(there is a vaccine for it now btw)


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible to stop it


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yeah vaccines


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it requires free healthcare, free college, and more


[13-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
homeownership is arguably the biggest thing.


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will not take efforts to prevent it.


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's what i;m saying. there woudl be ways to end it, but will those in power ever actually pass them?


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only to accelerate it.


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats would do it


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
all those things are now hugely popular.


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Passing them would thrust Republicans into obscurity


[13-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why Republicans oppose them


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Democrats would take the credit as having all voted yes


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
while Republicans mostly voted no


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wants another real estate freefor all liek he got in 2008, he also wants to sell real estate to russian oligarchs for cheap prices likely creating thousands mroe absentee land owners


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
10 Republican defections, and we get medicare for all and Republicans die


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why it makes sense for Republicans to choose wildly unpopular stances on basically everything


[13-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't trying to improve things


[13-Feb-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're trying to not let the Democrats claim a victory by enabling them fixing something.


[13-Feb-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans will ride this train off a cliff into yellowstone volcano if they can put off their inevitable collapse


[13-Feb-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republican planted red scare is fading as new generations are born who werent around for stalin and reagan


[13-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
actually, that's mostly because the republicans throw around the word "socialist" like it's dirt


[13-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
they diluted its meaning to nothingness


[13-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
labeling over 50% of the population as "socialist" is a very quick way to cause everyone to stop looking at socialism as bad


[13-Feb-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
the most stupid thing to me is when conservatives try to equate science to socialism


[13-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's one surefire way of getting people to view socialism favorably


[13-Feb-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Climate change is just god getting mad at us for not puttign *enough* CO2 in the air. We need mroe pollution!"


[13-Feb-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would not be shocked if someone out there beleived this...


[13-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
I've heard from my religious family that global warming isn't a problem because god knows what he's doing


[13-Feb-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This kind man may be chopping off our limbs, but he knows what he;s doing so it will be fine"


[13-Feb-19 01:36 AM] moonatik#3676

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[13-Feb-19 07:05 AM] illumnious#7938

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[13-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Patrony#2095
,p Trump


[13-Feb-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/nyregion/immigration-court-video-teleconferencing.html

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Videoconferencing in Immigration Court: High-Tech Solution or Righ...
A lawsuit claims that an ICE policy in New York violates immigrants’ right to due process, and attempts to expedite and increase deportations.
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[13-Feb-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, ICE has been using videoconference that often doesn't work, with no privacy protections from snooping detention center staff, and like no ability of the detained to talk with their lawyers ahead of time in order to make sure cases are over quikk with a deportation regardless of the facts, all put in place after Trump argued for getting rid of due process entirely.


[13-Feb-19 12:48 PM] ononim#8141
>So, some right-wing amendments to a bill on French education are seeking to reinstate school uniforms, and task the principal with "ensuring all teaching staff wears appropriate outfits to show the authority they must inspire"


[13-Feb-19 02:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim 

Is it a bad thing?


[13-Feb-19 03:00 PM] ononim#8141
>to show the authority they must inspire


[13-Feb-19 03:01 PM] ononim#8141
This stinks with authoritianism and low key fetishism


[13-Feb-19 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
Along with the obvious notion that school uniforms beyond the basic dress code guidlines are stupid


[13-Feb-19 03:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
School uniform requirements are a source of income. Expect it to be abused for maximum profit.


[13-Feb-19 04:53 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics/trump-border-security-deal/

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Trump intends to sign border deal to avoid another shutdown
President Donald Trump intends to sign the border security deal to avoid another partial government shutdown, according to two sources who have spoken directly with the President.
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[13-Feb-19 04:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Drug kingpin Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzmán likely headed to Supermax prison, experts say https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/drug-kingpin-joaquin-el-chapo-guzm-n-likely-headed-supermax-n970726

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Drug kingpin Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzmán likely headed to Supermax ...
Bob Hood, a former Supermax penitentiary warden, suspects Guzmán will "never be allowed on the yard with other prisoners for the rest of his life."
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2635101/181106-el-chapo-al-1116_03c7db5355c9dc807e7bb9bbcf2b07c7.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[13-Feb-19 06:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
.q add @Crow @Teaspoon, also the only channel which has any sort of serious discussion worth scrolling back through lol, general discussion is shitposting-lite, anything serious that comes up gets told to take it to politics lol


[13-Feb-19 06:51 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Stoopedhooy, quote added (@Crow: @Teaspoon, also the only channel which has any sort of serious discussion worth scrolling back through lol, general discussion is shitposting-lite, anything serious that comes up gets told to take it to politics lol)


[13-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/12/california-police-shooting-willie-mccoy

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Six California officers fire shots at rapper who had been asleep i...
Willie McCoy was startled awake and fatally shot by Vallejo police at Taco Bell, prompting family to allege racial profiling
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[13-Feb-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/429843-cohen-to-testify-before-three-congressional-panels-before-going

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Cohen to testify before three congressional panels before going to...
Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen will testify before three congressional committees before he goes to prison, his lawyer told
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cohenmichael_121218getty_0.jpg


[13-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/429818-gop-advances-rules-change-to-speed-up-confirmation-of-trump-nominees

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GOP advances rules change to speed up confirmation of Trump nominees
Senate Republicans are moving forward with a proposal to change the rules to speed up consideration of President Trump's nominees.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnelltrump_borderwall_121317getty.jpg


[13-Feb-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate Blunt so much


[13-Feb-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't say one word to his constituents, and he's in bed with a bunch of Middle East money]


[13-Feb-19 09:42 PM] illumnious#7938

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[13-Feb-19 09:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
building up christian electorate


[13-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna be weird to see the screeching when CA has on-demand without question abortion after Roe is overturned


[13-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
if a state wants that, do it


[13-Feb-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
You know what's also murder?


[13-Feb-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Fatally shooting unarmed black people


[13-Feb-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
But nah fuck those guys


[13-Feb-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not people amirite


[13-Feb-19 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/eu-copyright-final-text/

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Breaking: The text of Article 13 and the EU Copyright Directive ha...
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[14-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], shooting armed sleeping black people too


[14-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/12/california-police-shooting-willie-mccoy

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Six California officers fire shots at rapper who had been asleep i...
Willie McCoy was startled awake and fatally shot by Vallejo police at Taco Bell, prompting family to allege racial profiling
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[14-Feb-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Taco Bell, where intestines (and black people) go to die


[14-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] 

So it was a suicide?
It explains everything.


[14-Feb-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
could be suicide by cop, we don't know and probably never will


[14-Feb-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
but I don't think so


[14-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-passes-measure-to-end-us-military-involvement-in-yemen-repudiating-trumps-backing-of-saudi-led-coalition/2019/02/13/dd6852ba-2fc9-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html


[14-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
"The House on Wednesday passed a resolution to end U.S. military support for the Saudi-led coalition operating in Yemen, a repudiation of President Trump’s continued cooperation with and defense of the kingdom and its crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman."


[14-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
"The measure passed 248 to 177, and was supported by 230 Democrats and 18 Republicans. It marks the end of a months-long campaign from the legislation’s sponsors, whom House Republican leaders blocked last year from bringing the measure to the floor — even as a bipartisan majority of the Senate voted to approve it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) had promised a vote when Democrats took over the House this year."


[14-Feb-19 02:42 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i really think the social justice warrior movement is retarded


[14-Feb-19 02:42 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
is breaking every single window at a star bucks worth it


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the hate white male shit


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i cant get over this


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also the green deal


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
more like the shit deal


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase you know


[14-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i can go around the air more faster then on a shitty train


[14-Feb-19 02:44 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
that has no funding becuase of oil and fuel


[14-Feb-19 02:45 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also


[14-Feb-19 02:45 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
air travel is more cheap then this new deal


[14-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or you could invest in high-speed electric rail...


[14-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
ew, spending money


[14-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of having an absolute mess making commuter trains basically unprofitable in the US


[14-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[14-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
what about federal airlines instead of private airlines


[14-Feb-19 02:48 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also


[14-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
um why are people for socialism


[14-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
most country's tried this and failed


[14-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
mostly because the CIA usurped them


[14-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
France has an actual socialist party


[14-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
which does not go around killing people or shutting down the country


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and which held power for many years


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
argentina was socialist from 1970-73 until the CIA overthrew their democratically elected socialist president in favor of an authoritarian dictator


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are now in a state of turmoil after replacing their socialist party with some guy doing Third Way


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Third Way being the Bill Clinton W Bush approach


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
where you try to destroy your enemies by taking their shitty ideas and implementing them yourself no matter what you fukk up


[14-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so you wont people like cortez in power


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Clinton took horrible ideas on welfare and drug policy that screwed over America


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
what's wrong with cortez?


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
uh


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
she is a idiot


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Bush occasionally did things like biodiesel...which screwed over everyone


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
How?


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
she has a bachelor's in economics btw


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you really want to know


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you think she is doing shit in congress


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just tell me a politician's dumb, I don't even necessarily care if theyare.


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I care what they are doing.


[14-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is she doing or not doing that is bad?


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
she's doing a lot more than I've seen any other politician do only a month after being elected


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/07/alan-greenspan-thinks-the-ocasio-cortez-70percent-tax-plan-is-a-terrible-idea.html

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Former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan thinks the Ocasio-Cortez 70% tax p...
Raising the marginal tax rate on the richest Americans to 70 percent would be a "terrible idea," former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/10/18/105515078-1539868808028img_5287r.1910x1000.jpg


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would be a great president if he was even dumber, but just gave us free healthcare instead of a trade war etc.


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
they usually like to be quiet and go with the flow this early on


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the gov't is hemmorraging money...


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know what


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
"rich person thinks tax on rich people is bad"


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The deficit is huge and the debt is ever-increasing


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i had enogh this sjw bullshit


[14-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't SJW lol


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
just remember if trump wins again


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
your party is fucked


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL he won't win again


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there's severe income inequality that appears to be causing severe mental issues, like increased suicides and children with tons of mental illnesses.


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
How are we SJW just because we want to tax people?


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
he can't win again, he's pissed off too many independents


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you said he wont win in 2016


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
he did


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No I didn't.


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not the media.


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[14-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm an actual person with a brain.


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
trump's approval rating has gone nowhere but down


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im going through what your party says


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it went up in his first year a bit.


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
and people are pissed about his tax plan


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
he promised


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lower taxes


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is my party, what does it say, and why does it make me an SJW?


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He raised taxes on the middle class lol


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
and people owe this year because of him


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
he fucking lied


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
while lowering it on the rich


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's not fair.


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not a democrat lmao


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
people are pissssed


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
stop making stupid assumptions


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know what


[14-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
you know what nothing


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
enjoy being divided


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
you have no argument


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
HAH


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
funnily enough


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
the Democratic party is anything but


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
the GOP has gotten more divided lmfao


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
remember


[14-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
but Trump and Mitchy boi don't want people to know that


[14-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
everyone now hates your party


[14-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
like


[14-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
everyone


[14-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
nobody belives in socailism


[14-Feb-19 02:56 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also where in gods name do you get your source


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
how are you even coming to these conclusions


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
people have viewed socialism much more favorably in the past decade


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
his parents probably


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is "socialism"


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why do you think everyone hates whatever it is?


[14-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not making any sense.


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
i give it half an hour before he goes back to "i hate my parents forcing me into this"


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You said taxing the rich was dumb and then accused everyone of being SJW socalists that are hated


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a complete nonsequitor


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
CONSISTENCY PLEASE


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
like geez


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
stop going from "dems are evil and you will lose"


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
to


[14-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
"I'm depressed"


[14-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Mikey#7286
and if you can't keep to one side, you probably shouldn't be trying to debate


[14-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
basically, what happens when you accuse over 60% of the population of being socialist for non-socialist things, that tends to make people view socialism more favorably


[14-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
BERNIE IS A SOCIALIST REEEEE


[14-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
since the meaning of the word socialist is diluted to the point of meaninglessness


[14-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Bernie is arguing for sane policies with data bakking them up


[14-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
>people then associate good things with socialists and think you're a nutcase


[14-Feb-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why I don't engage the drive-by trolls in here


[14-Feb-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
I wait until someone else does it


[14-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just find it hilarious when they are trying to argue and everyone can see they hav no clothes.


[14-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
another thing that they tend to misrepresent is how taxes work


[14-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like the people who protest the greatest against taxes don't know how tax brackets work


[14-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal, if there's a tax bracket at 0-$20,000, $20k to $50k, $50k to $100k, etc, and there's a 10/20/30% tax on these brackets, a person making $100k would pay 10% on $20,000, 20% on $30,000, and 30% on $50,000, not 30% on $100,000


[14-Feb-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
30% on $100,000 is $30,000, but the person would actually owe $23,000


[14-Feb-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
t a r t a r u s    m e l t d o w n


[14-Feb-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
n e o    c h i n a    a r r i v e s    f r o m    t h e    b i b l e


[14-Feb-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf is this shit


[14-Feb-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie you should pin him down on a contradiction or something


[14-Feb-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
stupid punching bags are fun


[14-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't


[14-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy goes to vague generalizations as soon as he's pressed.


[14-Feb-19 04:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just Land post.


[14-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-says-immigrants-would-have-be-able-climb-mt-everest-n971271

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Trump says you'd have to be able to 'climb Mt. Everest' to scale h...
The president's comments came as Congress moved toward consideration of a spending package that would fund just 55 miles of new steel fencing.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_07/2752516/190213-donald-trump-ew-406p_3e3e7800375e3dcedf0e94ce6683633f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[14-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
>55 miles of steel fencing


[14-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
>calls it a wall


[14-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
hue


[14-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[14-Feb-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You'll have to climb mt everest to walk around my 55 miles steel wall!"


[14-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Mikey#7286
how the fuck does that even work


[14-Feb-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt and he's trying to spin his failed demands in a positive light


[14-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Mikey#7286
bahahaha


[14-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[14-Feb-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s now going to try and declare natrional emoergency to steal the pentagon;s budget and use that for the wall


[14-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
>55 miles!


[14-Feb-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while mitch mcconnel tries to kill any veto power congress has on it


[14-Feb-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he waNTEd a solid concrete wall too


[14-Feb-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s even fiurther failure that he has to use steel rods


[14-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[14-Feb-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's trying so hard to be a dictator like big bother putin and distant cousin kim.


[14-Feb-19 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if it werent for that state of the union government opening, he might have succeeded


[14-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
wow, i've missed such debates


[14-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
.q @Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal


[14-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[1/1] @Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal: im different then most of yall


[14-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i mean its true


[14-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
just dont fight


[14-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
thats all i ask


[14-Feb-19 05:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
fite me m8


[14-Feb-19 05:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤜


[14-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:trixdisgust:


[14-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤜


[14-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/yHn1BOb

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https://imgur.com/gallery/yHn1BOb
WOKE FIRE SERVICE
https://i.imgur.com/yHn1BOb.png


[14-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
triggered


[14-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, this seems like a drama bait post made for upboats


[14-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
"Are there any sources to this, or are we just going to assume it's true cause it's on a meme?"


[14-Feb-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect the trouble is they use very heavy ladders and almost nobody can lift them


[14-Feb-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they're restricted to the very high end of muscular for new applicants


[14-Feb-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only are men on average stronger


[14-Feb-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but men are more variable than women on essentially everything


[14-Feb-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
because men are more altricial


[14-Feb-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if you're looking for the strongest humans, they will pretty much only be men, almost regardless of lens size and where you look


[14-Feb-19 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Replace with robots. Problem solved.


[14-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Replace everything with robots.


[14-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't think that's the goal? It's just too hard to get robots to do things humans take for granted


[14-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Mikey#7286
they'e gonna replace mcdonald's cashiers with robots eventually


[14-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[14-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an inverted bell curve in terms of difficulty of automating


[14-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh McDonald's cashiers could be replaced now almost.


[14-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ordering manually is really antiquated.


[14-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The lowest and highest skilled jobs that require some form of either human thinking or odd movement


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Try replacing a hair dresser with a robot now


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just hav the customers press buttons to select menu options and hit a confirm button and ask an employee if they need help.


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's handling cash that's the hard part


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because physical items to transfer are huge security problems


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
digital currency could fix this, but we're still stukk with the idea of always being able to use pennies etc.


[14-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, saw Adventures of Pluto Nash again recently


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Digital currency was a fad


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Eddie Murphy said he wouldn't giv his fingerprint to pay


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead would pay in cash


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was like WTF


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are in a damn hotel on the fukking MOON


[14-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should not be *able* to pay with cash and avoid the authorities looking for you.


[14-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man that vision of the future just reminds me of how Japan is both far ahead and two decades behind in terms of tech


[14-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had QR codes in the early 00s but like


[14-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The early 00s is where it seems like tech stopped for them


[14-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In some sense


[14-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also why did you watch Pluto Nash once, and then decide to watch it again


[14-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
my mom thinks virtual currency will let the government track you the same way using a debit or credit card would


[14-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
like I brought up the idea of using credits like in star wars, basically gift cards with a certain amount of money on them that can be plugged in like thin USB drives and have money transferred between them (or even between different cards), and she says it'll just be another way for the government to track you, misunderstanding them as being the same as being connected to a bank account (they can be, but don't have to be)


[14-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I saw it three times, Its


[14-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Believe it or not, I kinda like it.


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's bland aside of the robot character, but it's a pleasant bland.


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they actually tried.


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, literally the only difference between using paper money or using cryptocurrency nowadays is that paper money is easily tracked


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, no


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
cryptocurrency is hugely unstable


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it doesn't hav the bakking of a whole gov't


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which can manipulate stability too


[14-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
I mean how it's implemented, not how it's backed


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, digital currency *is* the future


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but cryptocurrency is dumb


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
bitcoin mining needs to stop


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
literally the only thing you'd have to do to make a government-backed cryptocurrency is to release "official" credit card-like objects which can contain a numerical value


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's essentially forcing electricity usage to stay the same despite better efficiencies


[14-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, maybe I mean digital currency instead of cryptocurrency, but I'm not really sure what the difference is


[14-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cryptocurrency comes with some assurances about its legitimacy


[14-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's very hard to fake bitcoins


[14-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real money cannot compete at all in this manner.


[14-Feb-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, what I mean is make the USD digital, with the same backing as paper money


[14-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason why it's still done the way it's being done right now is because its historical


[14-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling plastic credit cards with value in them will be a lot cheaper to produce than the metal coins we currently use


[14-Feb-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be expensive to create a universal debit card system


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fragmented banking system is currently relied upon


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho merchants hav to PAY to take people's money


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
because banks are scummy


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
not sure how much the raw materials for paper money costs


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Paper money isn't that costly


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but US paper money is shitty and behnid on tech


[14-Feb-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's tearable


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you do NOT want tearable money


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other countries are going with special plastic


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
wait wat


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
how do you make paper money non-tearable?


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
By making it plastic


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
I guess some sort of plastic composite?


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, it's cheap to make


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
coins are not cheap to make


[14-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also, it's expensive to deal with counterfeits


[14-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, I don't think digital currency should be quite like a debit system, that's trackable


[14-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Levi's won't let plastic money happen


[14-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
levi's?


[14-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
you mean the clothing company?


[14-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scrap cotton that can't be used for jeans goes to make money


[14-Feb-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I was wrong, credits basically are debit cards https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Credit_chip/Legends

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Legends
Credit chips, also known as credit sticks, were credits in a form of a small, flat chip or card issued by the planetary government which had values ranging from one to over a billion with a limit...
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/1/1e/Credit_Stick.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100930133615


[14-Feb-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
>Credit chips, also known as credit sticks, were credits in a form of a small, flat chip or card issued by the planetary government which had values ranging from one to over a billion with a limit set by the issuing governmental authority.


[14-Feb-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
>Currency was transferred to and from the chip by drawing upon account information from a central bank.


[14-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
>Because of common security countermeasures, a failed attempt to modify the chip activated self-destruct programming, destroying the chip.


[14-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[14-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
imagine every single dollar bill being coded to self-destruct if you tried to launder it


[14-Feb-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the vastly varied forms of currency used in star wars are due to artists and authors having no basis from the movies to go off of


[14-Feb-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you know if credits ever appeared in the first 6 movies? I'm 90% sure there was never a single instance of money being shown in either the prequels or the original trilogy


[14-Feb-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
except maybe some primitive coins on tatooine in episode 1


[14-Feb-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was strongly implied they were digital in Ep 4


[14-Feb-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since Luke and Obi Wan had no luggage


[14-Feb-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same with Leia


[14-Feb-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The story makes much less sense if it's obvious nobody can pay Han


[14-Feb-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly


[14-Feb-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I know, I meant the physical appearance


[14-Feb-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jabba hunting Han for his money


[14-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
obviously it's implied they have money


[14-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's implied you need someone's living consent to get their money


[14-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't kill them and rob their house of all its coins


[14-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Killing Han or such is a punishment for his refusal to pay


[14-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
the only appearances I can find of money being used are artists' renditions and the clone wars series using some kind of strange metal bars as currency


[14-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The metal bars just contain information normally I think


[14-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the appearance of credits varies wildly


[14-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
from cubes to bars to cards


[14-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
I could've sworn I saw a version that was basically a glorified USB stick


[14-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were definitely meant to be digital in Ep 4 with some way to get them via communications


[14-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
presumably you call up the bank and say I am so and so wire money to so and so


[14-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
you could plug it into computers or even each other to transfer money value


[14-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
maybe it was another series


[14-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
but I'm 90% sure I saw or read it in star wars


[14-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
also reminder that the episode 4 digital jabba scene was stupid as hell


[14-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
jabba is 100% not the type of being to go out to collect owed money in person


[14-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
most hutts aren't


[14-Feb-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if han ever had the money he owed jabba


[14-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
I think it was implied that he could pay jabba back with the money he'd get for transporting luke and obi-wan to alderaan


[14-Feb-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-saudi-moneylaundering/eu-broadens-its-dirty-money-blacklist-adds-saudi-arabia-idUSKCN1Q215X

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EU adds Saudi Arabia to dirty-money blacklist, upsets UK, U.S.
The European Commission added Saudi Arabia, Panama and four U.S. territories to ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190214&t=2&i=1356324741&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF1C0WO


[14-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, the EU is saying that the US and Saudi Arabia are enabling money laundering


[14-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
To which both are saying nuh-uh


[14-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[14-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the UK is saying NAH THEY GOOD NOW BUY MY WEAPONS MATE


[14-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a few others saying to include City of London


[14-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakklisting City of London for much of EU banking would be a seeeeerious diplomatic issue


[14-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it should be done.


[14-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK THE UK


[14-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They regularly enable despotism for strategic reasons.


[14-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All this will seem silly in around 40 years when people know "fukk, Sauds got 30 years of oil left and nothing else"


[14-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean 0


[14-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't saudi arabia and iran hate each other due to ideological differences?


[14-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's not going to go away, even with no oil left


[14-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, but both are essentially screwed with spreading western culture


[14-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran can't stop dancing, Saudis can't keep women being property forever.


[14-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
One day they'll sit down and realize they both love Spongebob and that it's pointless to fight when nobody's religious anymore.


[14-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
plus, I feel like iran's oil is going to last longer because of all the embargoes and sanctions


[14-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
though I feel that in the end, it's going to be iran and israel which set the middle east the rest of the way on fire


[14-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
most likely nuclear fire


[14-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, Israel will dominate economically.


[14-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saudi Arabia will envy it.


[14-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran will collapse to something.


[14-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
dominate locally, maybe


[14-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
unless the US really manages to crack down on everything anti-israel, I get the feeling the boycotts are going to get worse


[14-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
not to the point of majorly affecting their economy, but enough that it limits what they can do politically around the world


[14-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politically, it's a bad time to be trying to shut down BDS movements as a US politician


[14-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's too much else to deal with


[14-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could easily get mired in some free speech stuff in the courts


[14-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump has created a scenario where BDS could succeed


[14-Feb-19 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics/darla-shine-measles-anti-vaccination/index.html

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Wife of White House communications director pushes false anti-vacc...
The wife of White House communications chief Bill Shine said Wednesday that childhood diseases such as measles "keep you healthy & fight cancer."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180711152944-darla-shine-kfile-super-tease.jpg


[14-Feb-19 03:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493236786475302924/545607309682802688/FB_IMG_1550153214080.jpg

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[14-Feb-19 04:01 PM] Patrony#2095
since when do politicians care so much about "poll" ratings


[14-Feb-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGCmxCjaWE

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C-SPAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGCmxCjaWE
Word for Word: Excange between Rep. Ilhan Omar and Elliott Abrams ...
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) has a heated exchange with Elliot Abrams, the U.S. special envoy to Venezuela, highlighting his role in the Iran-Contra affair. She sa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/InGCmxCjaWE/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-Feb-19 06:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim 

Nice one


[14-Feb-19 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that Elliot Abrams is a professional killer so expect death squads on Venezuela soon


[14-Feb-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/14/entertainment/r-kelly-investigation/index.html

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Avenatti: New tape handed over in R. Kelly probe
CNN has seen the tape that the lawyer says shows R. Kelly having sex with underage girl.
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[14-Feb-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
P I S S S S S S S


[14-Feb-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
but shit, it was 99¢


[14-Feb-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
who's r kelly


[14-Feb-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
some kinda rapper?


[14-Feb-19 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
An RnB performer.


[14-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
so what is he being investigated for?


[14-Feb-19 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Several charges of sexual assault.


[14-Feb-19 09:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think it's a growing list.


[14-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it started i think in the late 2000's with a pee tape of him peeing on a 13 year old or soemthing


[14-Feb-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless that was just the boondocks predicting the future


[14-Feb-19 10:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1096149572198584320

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https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1096149572198584320
Greetings, America, a country that’s going to pretend there’s a national emergency when there isn’t one. From a country that’s pretending there isn’t a national emergency when there is one.
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[14-Feb-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course


[14-Feb-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/IsQenvj.jpg

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[14-Feb-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty much true


[14-Feb-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, if a train was available where I live to up north or something, say Mackinaw City or Saint Ignace and if the faire was affordable I'd take weekend trips to Mackinac Island. Though that's like a six hour drive.


[14-Feb-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the trains in america were mroe available and up to date i;d take thme for travel


[14-Feb-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate planes


[14-Feb-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well rather, i hate airports


[14-Feb-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if there was less bullshit i might be mroe into flying


[15-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So does this set precedent for any president to declare whatever campaign issue they ran on a national emergency?


[15-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[15-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
100% yes


[15-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't think Trump can just declare one without approval from congress or something


[15-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
no, he can


[15-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
congress can just immediately shut it down though


[15-Feb-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
or rather, they can hold a symbolic vote to show that he doesn't have the approval of congress


[15-Feb-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
the actual law got gutted a few years later by the supreme court


[15-Feb-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's a simple majority vote that can't be blocked by the senate majority leader


[15-Feb-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
only a single senator has to object to the state of emergency and a vote must be held within 15 days


[15-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
it was a post-watergate law enacted after nixon resigned


[15-Feb-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
the supreme court ruled that it gave the senate too much power over the executive branch a few years after it was put into law


[15-Feb-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/08/presidential-declaration-national-emergency-donald-trump-border-wall-congress-oversight/2784488002/

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How congressional Democrats could fight a Trump wall national emer...
Congress hasn't voted to overturn a presidential emergency in 44 years. But in 2005, one congressman threatened to – and the president blinked.
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[15-Feb-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
"The original intent of the 1975 law was to allow Congress a block a presidential emergency by simple majority vote. But in 1982, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the legislative veto. So now, any joint resolution by Congress to terminate an emergency can be vetoed by the president. "


[15-Feb-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
the president can veto it, but it's basically a career-ending event if it does pass


[15-Feb-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
it has no real teeth, so an idiot like trump would veto it and be done with it


[15-Feb-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being a new yorker struggling to find a stable job and then some DC upstart takes credit for killing off the city's largest job creating prospects of the last two decades


[15-Feb-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
that's kind of throwing the entire local economy under the bus, on top of kicking out anyone living in the area who can no longer afford it due to skyrocketing rent


[15-Feb-19 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
When a company like Amazon moves in, the people who aren't necessarily suffering don't really see any benefits, nor find a job; especially if it's a second head quarters. Those sorts of jobs would probably be mostly for trained personnel and not any person walking the pavement. So since they don't already exist, or presumably don't exist in the area they'd need to be brought in from elsewhere with enticements, usually the existence of the jobs in general will be that. But this'll be at the cost of those "struggling New Yorkers" being pined over. They'll be forced to leave from rising rents and a rise in the cost of living, the neighborhood will gentrify, and Queens will cease being Queens.


[15-Feb-19 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
And given the sorts of enticements cities were bending over backwards with to suck Bezos's dick I'd hazard to say that Amazon being there would have been taking more than its giving.


[15-Feb-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
it reminds me of that company (I think samsung?) who promised to make a new factory in the US which trump touted as being 100% his doing


[15-Feb-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
it turned out that due to local and federal tax breaks, taxpayers were paying like $800k per job with an average $70k salary


[15-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure I'm lowballing that taxpayer cost


[15-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
by a lot


[15-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
this one's for foxconn https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/11/07/business/u-s-taxpayers-count-cost-foxconns-artful-deal-wisconsin/

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U.S. taxpayers count the cost of Foxconn's artful deal in Wisconsi...
Whatever Americans were hoping for when they elected Donald Trump president in 2016, it's a fair bet that it didn't include shoveling billions of dollars o
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[15-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The Foxconn plant will initially employ 3,000 workers, at a salary of about $54,000 a person. Even if the factory eventually increases its employment to 13,000 — as Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has promised that it will — the cost per job created would be about $346,000.


[15-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think that's the only one though


[15-Feb-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
And now it was revealed the Foxconn plant will just do technical engineers and not be an actual manufacturing plant employing thousands.


[15-Feb-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just a couple hundreds now.


[15-Feb-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they lied  and are reaping the rewards for lying


[15-Feb-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/howard-schultz-challenge-to-democrats-nominate-a-centrist-for-president-and-ill-abandon-my-independent-campaign/2019/02/14/208c25de-309d-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html


[15-Feb-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[15-Feb-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
"Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz said Thursday that he would be willing to abandon his presidential ambitions midstream if Democrats nominate a centrist who makes it too difficult for him to win as an independent candidate."


[15-Feb-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
centrist in the US is fucking right


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
what?


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
centrism in the US is moderate right to right


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
centrism doesn't really exist


[15-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
you can be close to the center


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
centrism always exists


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
nut not on it


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
your views either swing left or right


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
centrism isn't a left or right thing


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
with a combination


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
centrism is an ever-changing window


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
with the "left" and the "right" being at different locations


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
and centrism being the center of both


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm center left, isn't that what centrism is


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
being close to the center


[15-Feb-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
it's called the overton window


[15-Feb-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
centrism is not the true center is what I'm saying


[15-Feb-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
centrism is the point between what is considered "left" and what is considered "right"


[15-Feb-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, the democratic party (the "left") is majority center to moderate-right


[15-Feb-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
members like bernie and AOC are the few actual leftists in the democratic party


[15-Feb-19 01:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
The conversation in America has drifted so far to the right over the passed hundred years that being centrist is to be comparable to being a mild European conservative, or even a conservative member of a liberal party across the pond. To be liberal is to be like a European center-right candidate.


[15-Feb-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
@Mikey https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1103/1*W9-fmK3B2-Il9DnLAGNtyA.jpeg

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[15-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[15-Feb-19 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
The presence and national attention AOC has has the potential for shifting the acceptable public range of American politics into an area comparable to Scandinavian Social Democracy


[15-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
which is still capitalism just with less company towns and Plinkerton gangs


[15-Feb-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The political compass for instance I've often seen accused of performing from an American perspective the way it weighs its questions and answers.


[15-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2017/12/21/16806676/strikethrough-how-trump-overton-window-extreme-normal

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How Trump makes extreme things look normal
Why we should worry about the "Overton Window"
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[15-Feb-19 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
In left-wing discourse, the Republican and Democratic parties are considered both to be Parties of Capitalism. They're functionally not that different in the sense that both kowtows to private capital


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
except one is more liberal and the other is more conservative


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
the only real difference is a few social issues (gay marriage, abortion, etc)


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
democrats seem to want to embrace more socialist ideals


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
the democratic party is more willing to entertain leftist ideas


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
just to get the leftist vote


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't willing to actually implement them


[15-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean with people like AOC i'm not sure I agree


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
she's an upstart


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
only time will tell if she's able to make any real ground


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
we need more upstarts


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
but it seems like she's making some ground into at least pushing the discourse back to the left


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope she makes rela ground


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Honahue#0656
AOC isn't even that far left historially, she's right there with FDR


[15-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
aye


[15-Feb-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we've shifted so far right that the old left seems extremist now


[15-Feb-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of Schultz's screaming is basically "pls someone make me their VP," right


[15-Feb-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-dhs-guts-task-forces-protecting-elections-from-foreign-meddling

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Trump’s DHS Guts Task Forces Protecting Elections
‘It’s very curious why the leadership has not committed resources to prepare for the 2020 election,’ one Homeland Security official tells The Daily Beast.
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[15-Feb-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Two teams of federal officials assembled to fight foreign election interference are being dramatically downsized, according to three current and former Department of Homeland Security officials. And now, those sources say they fear the department won’t prepare adequately for election threats in 2020.

“The clear assessment from the intelligence community is that 2020 is going to be the perfect storm,” said a DHS official familiar with the teams. “We know Russia is going to be engaged. Other state actors have seen the success of Russia and realize the value of disinformation operations. So it’s very curious why the task forces were demoted in the bureaucracy and the leadership has not committed resources to prepare for the 2020 election.”


[15-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I've been saying Trump's gonna be a two term president


[15-Feb-19 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
i doubt it


[15-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Mikey#7286
the DNC has gotten way more unified and the GOP is a crumbling mess


[15-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Mikey#7286
and more people are pissed at trump


[15-Feb-19 05:14 AM] Mikey#7286
especially after the shutdown and seeing their tax returns


[15-Feb-19 05:26 AM] Honahue#0656
More unified? They have like 20 canidates and I've seen some saying that Berniebros and Bernie are racist sexist holier than thou leftists


[15-Feb-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
wut


[15-Feb-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
also they're more unified than the GOP


[15-Feb-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
the GOP is full of different groups right now that can't really agree on anything, and I'm referring to like congress and stuff


[15-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
bernie is far from racist and sexist but the issue is he's old and probably wouldn't win anyway


[15-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't care if Congress is fractured his base isn't going to vote Dem and he got like 60mil votes last time even if they hate him they hate "socialism" more


[15-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't think most dems want straight socialism


[15-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Honahue#0656
The question then is can a Dem beat them at the electroal college? Maybe if they aren't tone deaf like last time but considering who they are putting up I suspect they haven't learned


[15-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Honahue#0656
I know that's why it's in quotes AOC isn't a socialist she's social democratic


[15-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
idk, Warren and Harris seem alright IMO


[15-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
and they'd be dumb to try and push Hilary again


[15-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
If Hillary runs the DNC has lost everything


[15-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Mikey#7286
at this point i don't think she'll try again


[15-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
especially after losing to an orange businessman with a horrible toupee


[15-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
All the canidates have big issues Warren and her ancestry may still influence votes, Kamala Harris is a cop, a lot of liberals don't like Bernie


[15-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
well


[15-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
we'll see


[15-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
the campaign trail doesn't begin for a few months afaik


[15-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Naturally, but I'm expecting second term Trump


[15-Feb-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I would expect trump to sorely lose in a fair election


[15-Feb-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't seem like that'll happen this time around


[15-Feb-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
"NATIONAL EMERGENCY  - Turns out russia was trying to meddle with the election system in 2016 and 2020. They did not succeed, but due to the Democrats in the House not putting money towards election security, we can't take that chance this election. As president of the United States, i'm delaying the 2024 vote until we can ensure that nobody can meddle with the election."


[15-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[15-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[15-Feb-19 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is it time for a new president to seize their Rubicon moment and cross the Potomic into DC and seize the white house of that happens?


[15-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Mikey#7286
pretty sure Trump can't delay an election


[15-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Wtf


[15-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Guess Trump wanna rule like Putin


[15-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah not gonna happen


[15-Feb-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure byte was just shitposting, we're only 5 years away from 2024


[15-Feb-19 06:13 AM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[15-Feb-19 06:13 AM] RYDE#8862
Mikey!


[15-Feb-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
hey


[15-Feb-19 06:19 AM] RYDE#8862
"Putin" Dispenser here!


[15-Feb-19 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I used to check The_Donald just to see what they thought was news worthy and back when they did seem interested in a Trump dynasty, this was in 2016 though he does have some bad blood and I haven't been there in years


[15-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elections get decided by suburbs, so that's the goal now


[15-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And suburbs have gotten bluer over the last decade


[15-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of Republican women in the 00s now vote Dem


[15-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The stereotype is "wine women" went Dem and "shot and beer union guys" went GOP


[15-Feb-19 06:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Union guys in my town usually know that Republicans bust unions


[15-Feb-19 07:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I checked up on what Unions did in 2016 and they went for Trump. Though it's no wonder, he promised to keep and bring jobs into the US and big infrastructural projects, so that means more work for then to do. Other than... Shifting the economy more into small business service industries which they have no power in.


[15-Feb-19 07:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now whether or not Trump's delivered is another issue. But I know the Teamsters were really trying to encourage Trump to move ahead with his economic promises. I stopped hearing about that sometime early last year


[15-Feb-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got played.


[15-Feb-19 07:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm9KMPC8WOo

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New York Muslim Community Patrol Faces BACKLASH From Locals
Muslim Community Patrol Faces BACKLASH From Locals. Some feel that this group may appear too much like NYPD while even local muslims are concerned that this ...
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[15-Feb-19 07:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/andrew-mccabe-obstruction-of-justice/index.html

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McCabe confirms talks held at Justice Dept. about removing Trump
Former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe is confirming for the first time publicly that there were high-level discussions at the Justice Department about recruiting Cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove President Donald Trump from office in the aftermath of f...
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[15-Feb-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-copper-mining-arctic-finnmark-pollution-environment-damage-fjords-a8778891.html?fbclid=IwAR3S6hmPsl1IkyHkqHD3S8zzOPFNlMyBelTUu9nE-bzKiQhwS-aKcOkk-D0

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Norway approves 'most environmentally damaging project' in country...
Operation will see heavy metal waste dumped in fjords and put reindeer at risk
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[15-Feb-19 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-rose-garden-expected-to-make-national-emergency-announcement-live-stream-today-2019-02-15/

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Trump makes border announcement in Rose Garden
The president, dissatisfied with funding from Congress, will declare a national emergency to free up dollars for his wall
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[15-Feb-19 04:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
the fuck is he on


[15-Feb-19 04:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
like he's just throwing around vague stats on murders etc.


[15-Feb-19 04:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
rambling


[15-Feb-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is on dementia


[15-Feb-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also an intelligence dropping power high


[15-Feb-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he actually sign that deal or are we headed for another shut down?


[15-Feb-19 04:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
He's signing a spending bill (without wall) to avoid the shutdown, then declared national emergency to build it


[15-Feb-19 04:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
it's the most bullshit "emergency" I've ever heard, he's just doing it to bypass Congress because he knows they won't budge and he can't budge if he wants to be reelected


[15-Feb-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants to be a kim jong un/putin level dictator


[15-Feb-19 04:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
There are ways for Congress to overturn the emergency declaration, but I dunno how that works


[15-Feb-19 04:56 PM] Litrojia#0612
he just squeezed in the national emergency shit into a minute gloss-over, and for most of the rest he's just rambling about China


[15-Feb-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the first ammendment he'd have likely tried to put the king of taiwan clause on america for himself


[15-Feb-19 04:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
but hey, he just thanked Obama for a cartel national emergency he apparently (gotta fact check this) did


[15-Feb-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thailand*


[15-Feb-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama what now?


[15-Feb-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29628191

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Thailand's lese-majeste law explained
Thailand's lese-majeste law, which forbids insult of the monarchy, is among the world's strictest.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/63BC/production/_89923552_thairoyals.jpg


[15-Feb-19 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/tech/amazon-nyc-hq2-fail/index.html

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How Amazon blew its chance in New York
The deal was supposed to be foolproof. But by trying so hard to bypass opposition and extract many incentives as possible, Amazon generated more opposition than it bargained for.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190215093114-20190215-jeff-bezos-amazon-hq2-gfx-super-tease.jpg


[15-Feb-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
wow, even the washington examiner is hating on trump for the national emergency declaration


[15-Feb-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/republicans-warned-the-left-would-gut-the-constitution-trump-did-it-instead

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Trump's emergency declaration stretches the law and violates the s...
The right feared it would be the Left that would gut the Constitution. It turned out that a Republican president beat them to it by declaring a national emergency over a non-emergency to seize power.
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[15-Feb-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
"The right feared it would be the Left that would gut the Constitution. It turned out that a Republican president beat them to it by declaring a national emergency over a non-emergency to seize power. "


[15-Feb-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
the washington examiner is a right news site


[15-Feb-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
not right-leaning, just right


[15-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why his palms are not orange?


[15-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Are those artificially enlarged hands?


[15-Feb-19 08:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤔


[15-Feb-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah Washington Examiner is basically just propaganda


[15-Feb-19 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
you know you fucked up when the washington examiner is roasting you as a republican


[15-Feb-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
"In its relentless determination to demonize political foes, the right overlooked one of its own making. National security should never have been allowed to become the carte blanche it has become. Conservatives will live to regret this use of emergency powers, because it will be used in ways they won't like."


[15-Feb-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[15-Feb-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
such regret


[15-Feb-19 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/2-american-women-detained-after-speaking-spanish-montana-file-suit-n971716

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2 American women who were detained after speaking Spanish in Monta...
“This changed our lives, I believe, forever,” one of the women said. She has also said the incident made her young daughter afraid to speak Spanish.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_07/2753946/190214-martha-hernandez-ana-suda-aclu-cs-435p_5a5c31080a491a07f5c0c6ad63ea8210.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[15-Feb-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
"The American Civil Liberties Union filed a federal lawsuit on Thursday against the U.S. Customs and Border Protection on behalf of two American women who were detained after speaking Spanish at a convenience store in Montana."


[15-Feb-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[15-Feb-19 08:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
ay caramba 🇺🇸


[15-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
OH NO SOMEONE MUST'VE DRIVEN ACROSS THE CANADA-MEXICO WORMHOLE AT THE BORDER etc.


[15-Feb-19 08:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Dem Mexicans started digging a hole under the border not knowing how thick the wall was and went too far north.


[15-Feb-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexicans see Trumpinot Line


[15-Feb-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexicans go around


[15-Feb-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Canada falls within 2 days


[15-Feb-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
US surrenders in a month


[15-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
lmao @Nebbie, I scrolled to the bottom of that article, and the author felt it was relevant to have "Montana borders Canada." as its own paragraph


[15-Feb-19 10:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/japan-recognise-ainu-indigenous-people-time-190215053116742.html

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Japan to recognise Ainu as 'indigenous people' for first time
The ethnic minority, mainly living on Hokkaido, has long suffered the effects of a policy of forced assimilation.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/2/15/c5682001bf0e4d03b63ec7e30ad36a10_18.jpg


[15-Feb-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.yahoo.com/news/w-house-spokeswoman-sanders-questioned-special-counsel-cnn-211831539.html

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W.House spokeswoman Sanders questioned by special counsel: CNN
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office has interviewed White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders as part of the investigation into possible connections between President Donald Trump's team and Russia, CNN reported Friday.  "The president urged me, like he has everyone in the ad...
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[15-Feb-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
>The president urged me, like he has everyone in the administration, to fully cooperate with the special counsel. I was happy to voluntarily sit down with them," Sanders told the cable news outlet.


[15-Feb-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
:ponythinking:


[15-Feb-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, of note


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Agents have broader authority when operating within 100 miles of a U.S. border..."


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
both coasts


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the Gulf coast


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and all the states bordering Canada


[15-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Border Patrol doesn't believe people hav rights


[16-Feb-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the border between the US and canada is also not clearly marked for people walking along it


[16-Feb-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so people can just be arrested by border patrol at any moment and not realize they accidentally entered america


[16-Feb-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then they get thrown in prison despite the fact that there was nothing to indicate a border


[16-Feb-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently there's also soem of this going on with the US mexico border


[16-Feb-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/yTnjeim

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Literally the perfect show.
https://i.imgur.com/yAezVzah.jpg


[16-Feb-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-emergency-declaration-build-wall-will-cost-americans-more-ncna972146

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Opinion | Trump's emergency declaration to build the wall will cos...
The president's plan upends the Constitution, which is far more dangerous for our democracy than any caravan heading for the border.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_07/2755046/190215-donald-trump-al-1256_fe6aaaa0a589d5efd6031108afcf8de8.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[16-Feb-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
"There is a national emergency, but it’s not coming from caravans massing in Mexico. It’s from an authoritarian flailing in Washington. The crisis that the country is now confronting has less to do with a porous physical boundary than with how the limits of presidential power are eroding before our eyes."


[16-Feb-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's hilarious how the conservatives are basically splitting themselves on the issue of the executive branch having too much power


[16-Feb-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
they're pulling in two opposite directions, one to automatically fall in line and defend trump, and the other, instinctual hate for a powerful government


[16-Feb-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have become the veryt hing they sought to destroy


[16-Feb-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rather a lot of thme bought into the mentality of trying to destroy it, when most of thme jsut wanted to control the big government themselves


[16-Feb-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m noticing a lot of that in politics right now where the ruse has become the reality for some parts of both parties while the majority are still using it as ruses


[16-Feb-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the social democracy for all thing or the destroy big government thing


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
that wasn't really ever true


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
normal people are liberal and conservative


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
politicians are neoliberal


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
they have done exactly the thing they were put there by the megacorps to do


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
technically, both liberals and conservatives in the US are liberal


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
wedge issues are just a mask


[16-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
and neoliberalism is just liberalism on steroids


[16-Feb-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/s09zAAM.jpg

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[16-Feb-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
"We confuse patriotism and nationalism, unfortunately. I'd say we're FAR more nationalist than patriotic."


[16-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
wow, that took two tries to get through


[16-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if discord is already implementing a word/phrase censor/ban


[16-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
"Yeah just ask people about paying taxes. That “patriotism” seems to stop at the check book."


[16-Feb-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/otMtz4w94Qs

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[16-Feb-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
:sosmol:


[16-Feb-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/430301-cummings-new-documents-show-trump-lawyers-may-have-lied-about-cohen-payments

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House chairman: Trump lawyers may have given false info about Cohe...
Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee, said Friday the panel believes two attorneys for President Trump may have given false information to government ethics officials.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cummingselijah_012919gn_lead.jpg


[16-Feb-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems Dems taking the house is bearing fruit, I didn't expect the investigation to get this far.


[16-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
House Republicans might've done a sloppy job covering things up.


[16-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well Trump didn't _technically_ tell Cohen to lie.


[16-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He probably told _these_ people to lie.


[16-Feb-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also as someone who enjoys reading attorney disciplinary hearings way too much; lying to a court basically once will fuck you


[16-Feb-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or submitting a false document


[16-Feb-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Competence based discipline is the most fun to read


[16-Feb-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article3933257.html

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Kansas Supreme Court disbars defense attorney Dennis Hawver for ...
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/ci4hkw/picture3933256/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/0722govrace_mb1.JPG


[16-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolute madman showed up to his disbarment hearing dressed like Jefferson


[16-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Hawver dressed as Thomas Jefferson, wearing a powdered wig and 18th century suit, at his disbarment hearing in September, according to the Topeka Capital-Journal, and yelled at the court, “I am incompetent!" while banging his fists on a lectern.'


[16-Feb-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part is that he once had a junior lawyer he was mentoring that got disbarred four years after he got barred


[16-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also for incompetence.


[16-Feb-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And accusing the judges of running a baby smuggling ring.


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Chewbacca offense


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
my client is a drug dealer, from Endor


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
you sir are impeding the geese.


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jury, please put my client in jail.


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This shit would be funny if it didn't ruin lives


[16-Feb-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind he's a Republican, Its


[16-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-attorney-ian-christensen-disbarred-after-misleading-clients-about-marijuana-10128144

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Florida Attorney Disbarred After Selling Fake Marijuana-Growing Ce...
Most attorneys don't deserve the bad rap their profession has gotten. But when a lawyer hires an unlicensed doctor to help sell fake marijuana certificates for $800 apiece that supposedly give people legal cover to grow weed, he has earned a bit of that ugly reputation. And o...
https://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/u/original/10129833/29037956604_bd45a4a4bc_o.jpg


[16-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another "funny" case.


[16-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
their stance on the rights of the accused is that they don't exist


[16-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you should be incompetent while defending them


[16-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make sure scum get what scum deserve etc.


[16-Feb-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah he tried to run for governor


[16-Feb-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too crazy to win in _Kansas_


[16-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i want this shit legalized


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/02/15/ocasio-cortezs-boyfriend-granted-house-email-account/

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Ocasio-Cortez’s boyfriend granted House email account
WASHINGTON – Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s relationship with boyfriend Riley Roberts is official. Roberts has been granted a government “house.gov” email address so he can access Ocasio-Cor…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/aoc-robert-boyfriend-01.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why this is an issue


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
bullshit


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
NNNNEEEEPPPOOOTTIIISMMMMMM


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
this is bullshit


[16-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
_seizures_


[16-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
he should not have a government property emails


[16-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
fox news' title is "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez faces questions after her boyfriend gets congressional email account"


[16-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
but this is standard procedure


[16-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
>Spouses of members of Congress are afforded privileges, such as a House email address, a congressional pin to bypass security and a House license plate to enter Capitol grounds and enjoy parking privileges, House aides say.


[16-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
>While he’s not officially a spouse, Roberts can have access to House email for calendar purposes, according to the office of the Chief Administrative Officer of the House.


[16-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
and it's done so at request


[16-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
it can be approved or denied


[16-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
though it sounds like something that isn't often denied


[16-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
but fox news is trying to make it sound like it's a big thing that's being done specially for her


[16-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, they're NOT MARRIED


[16-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
how dare they


[16-Feb-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8Iw37srmY

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[16-Feb-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AOC Derangement Syndrome


[16-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suffers usually have the symptom of calling any minor critique or parody of Trump as Trump Derangement Syndrome


[16-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Age of Consent derangement huh?


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if the child consents tho?


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_gunshot_


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Furious business plans drawn up*


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
*bulletproof helmets for CEOs pays off*


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
*R Kelly now spokesman of American Airlines*


[16-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/15/trumps-national-emergency-announcement-off-topic-moments-ann-coulter/2881827002/

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Ann Coulter and Hannity? The off-topic things Trump said in nation...
President Trump used his national emergency announcement to rail against China trade policies and applaud Fox News hosts
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[16-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you seen the video where he asks women to wipe sweat off his brow


[16-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
"From North Korea and China to Fox News hosts and conservative commentator Ann Coulter, President Donald Trump did not stick to the script on Friday when he outlined his plans to declare a national emergency for a wall along the southern U.S. border."


[16-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man what a weak fetish


[16-Feb-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why can't he just be like Ted Bundy?


[16-Feb-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/IBq01ksnflI

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https://youtu.be/IBq01ksnflI
R. Kelly Is Bad
This is the greatest wiping of All Time
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[16-Feb-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Wipe my noseee_


[16-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classy as ever with jumping on whatever normies are currently raging about.


[16-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no rappers are weird perverts


[16-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
...did everyone forget the 70s?


[16-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, did the bands themselves forget the 70s? They were on a lot of drugs while fukking those little girls.


[16-Feb-19 02:24 AM] QC#9233
They're pulling all the stops to make Ocasio-Cortez look bad. They even tried to ruin her career by fabricating a bath selfie scandal, which was debunked by a foot fetishist who recognized the feet didn't match.
It's been a heck of a year already...


[16-Feb-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
there's more stuff happening in a month the past 2 years than an entire year before trump started running


[16-Feb-19 02:26 AM] QC#9233
You're telling me. It's been such a crazy ride that everybody's already forgotten that every Hawaiian thought they were going to get blown up last year


[16-Feb-19 02:27 AM] QC#9233
But yeah, these past two months in particular have just been extraordinary


[16-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are pulling out all the stops


[16-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
hip young women that look hot selling socialized medicine...


[16-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's how you lose your base.


[16-Feb-19 02:30 AM] QC#9233
Republicans have been pulling out all the stops for a good while and are depending on some skeevy things like gerrymandering, because they knew that the majority of their voters would start dying at around the same time their policies would start really screwing over the majority of the voters; which is now.


[16-Feb-19 02:32 AM] QC#9233
One thing they didn't foresee was the rapid pace at which Americans are becoming educated about the world around them due to the internet. So what do they do? They attack it.


[16-Feb-19 02:35 AM] QC#9233
It's amazing how politicians are accusing Ocasio-Cortez's policies of being socialist when Eisenhower's were more extreme. To think the narrative has shifted so much that the average American at the peak of McCarthyism is considered a communist by today's standards.


[16-Feb-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
overton window was shifted way too far to the right


[16-Feb-19 02:36 AM] QC#9233
It also amazes me how many people just don't understand how marginal tax rates work


[16-Feb-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making taxes complicated so people need to rely on a business to file them means most people don't know how they work


[16-Feb-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The industry does not allow the gov't to do automatic filing.


[16-Feb-19 02:38 AM] QC#9233
Actually, the reason people need to rely on third parties to file their taxes is because these third parties are lobbying to block legislation that would allow the IRS to let people submit pre-filed forms online for free... like in like 20 other countries


[16-Feb-19 02:38 AM] QC#9233
Thanks, TurboTax


[16-Feb-19 02:39 AM] QC#9233
You beat me to it


[16-Feb-19 02:39 AM] QC#9233
But yeah, first of all, you have to make more than an NFL player to even qualify for that 70% rate and it's not like the 70% rate applies to the whole amount


[16-Feb-19 02:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://start.att.net/news/read/article/people-major_airlines_including_delta_and_american_adding-rtime/category/news

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[16-Feb-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
... why is this a bad thing again?


[16-Feb-19 02:44 AM] QC#9233
Good for them.
I really don't see why people feel the need to make it about themselves when others ask them to use certain pronouns or whatever. You're not being oppressed just because you were asked to do something nice for someone, but some people sure act like it.


[16-Feb-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
I don't see anything wrong with that


[16-Feb-19 02:47 AM] QC#9233
But then again, I'm also not one of those people who applies a different set of standards to people based on their gender


[16-Feb-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest problem is treating everyone like men


[16-Feb-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
since a lot of the equalization effort between men and women in the workforce has been just treating everyone like men


[16-Feb-19 02:49 AM] QC#9233
that is a big problem. It's even a problem in hospitals


[16-Feb-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
and the way that men are expected to behave is not healthy for anyone


[16-Feb-19 02:49 AM] QC#9233
heck, women are seven times more likely to be discharged in the middle of a heart attack because they are still othered to the point that their symptoms are treated as 'unusual'


[16-Feb-19 02:51 AM] QC#9233
men being the 'default' can have serious consequences. The medical deaths are the most extreme example of it.


[16-Feb-19 02:57 AM] QC#9233
Sometimes it leads to inconveniences. For instance, public transit centers are often ill-equipped to meet the needs of women. One common problem with this is that women have to use the bathroom more often because they have a womb putting pressure on their bladders as they fill. Another problem is hygiene. Women HAVE to sit. And then there's the fact that about 25% of the women aged between 11 and 50 are going to be on their periods at any given time.
Despite this bathrooms are scarce, adequate hygiene isn't often prioritized and when there are bathrooms they are the same size as men's. But of course they won't have any urinals, so women have less opportunity to relieve themselves (much less in a clean environment) despite being more likely to need it.


[16-Feb-19 02:59 AM] QC#9233
This is an inconvenience at best, but it is definitely a public health issue. Because even if the women can avoid using the dirty toilets so they won't get sick, holding it in is still very unhealthy.


[16-Feb-19 03:02 AM] QC#9233
And then there's the behavioral aspects of it all. The way men and women are told to deal with their emotions respectively isn't healthy at all.
Women's discomfort gets downplayed because she's expected to exaggerate (by men's standards). This is another thing that results in medical malpractice by the way.
At the same time men aren't taught to express a full range of emotions.


[16-Feb-19 03:06 AM] QC#9233
A lot of times I've dealt with guys who just became so frustrated with being unable to express an emotion that they basically exploded and converted whatever feeling it was into anger because it's they only thing they could express


[16-Feb-19 03:06 AM] QC#9233
All these unreasonable expectations are real health issues


[16-Feb-19 03:09 AM] QC#9233
I'm definitely seeing improvement, though


[16-Feb-19 03:11 AM] QC#9233
That reminds me: whenever I need a healthy dose of positivity, I often read WarriorMale's posts


[16-Feb-19 03:24 AM] QC#9233
https://awwmemes.com/i/captainsnoop-2019-wild-ride-master-post-former-gearbox-software-lawyer-71cb1277542b4c448659738f087c6efa

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 Alex Jones lost the lawsuit against the Sandy Ho...
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[16-Feb-19 03:24 AM] QC#9233
This is what I was looking for earlier


[16-Feb-19 03:25 AM] QC#9233
What a time to be alive


[16-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jones didn't lose the lawsuit


[16-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The newest thing was just allowing his deposition I think


[16-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Primarina#3120
https://imgur.com/Eg1NqKR

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[16-Feb-19 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/trump-will-fly-florida-weekend-golf-getaway-declaring-national-emergency-report/

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President Donald Trump is moving forward with a plan to declare a national emergency, diverting money from the military to construct a wall at the southern border with no input from Congress. But even he himself doesn’t seem to be taking the idea that there is a real emerge...
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[16-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, one of the lesser-known horrible things Ashit Pile under Trump has done


[16-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2018/12/17/phone_justice_timeline/

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Timeline: The 18-year battle for prison phone justice
Journalists and others often ask about how the movement for phone justice began and why this is taking so long. Here are the key dates: ...
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[16-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So one of the things keeping recidivism high is that phone providers for prisons charge exorbitant rates, with deals to send the money bakk to the prison


[16-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama's FCC tried to stop this


[16-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ashit Pile decided the FCC doesn't hav the authority to regulate communications within a state.


[16-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good ol' "states rights" making sure that inmates can't call their family without making them go bankrupt


[16-Feb-19 01:02 PM] Patrony#2095
Where Does Donald Trump get his wall supplies from?


[16-Feb-19 01:02 PM] Patrony#2095
Wal-Mart  XD

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[16-Feb-19 02:14 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Feb-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Feb-19 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1096494433187651586?s=21

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Clearest sign that @realDonaldTrump’s #FakeTrumpEmergency is not legitimate? The President himself says he didn’t need to declare a national emergency – it’s just a faster way to force taxpayers to foot the bill after Congress wouldn’t let him have his way. https...
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[16-Feb-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/16/mueller-searches-yielded-evidence-of-stone-wikileaks-communications.html

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Mueller says searches yielded evidence of Roger Stone-WikiLeaks co...
U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller disclosed for the first time on Friday that his office has evidence of communications between Trump-advisor Roger Stone and WikiLeaks related to the release of hacked Democratic Party emails.
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[16-Feb-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what this means


[16-Feb-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than that Stone talked to WikiLeaks when he said he didnt


[16-Feb-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means he goin' to jail, son


[16-Feb-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders is suspected of being told to lie by Trump


[16-Feb-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump probably told Stone to talk to WikiLeaks


[16-Feb-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller in action


[16-Feb-19 08:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He has money. He is going to get a slap on the wrist.


[16-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
His whole deal is to roll them up bottom to top


[16-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The mafia had money too


[16-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller took it all.


[16-Feb-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also completely stepping aside with the FBI 25th amendment thing people calling it a coup


[16-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In practice it basically would a constitutional way to conduct a coup (using the strictest terms) so


[16-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like what the Soviets did to Kruschev except with fewer threats


[16-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But on topic I don't get why so many people are lying


[16-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders was interviewed by Mueller and we know she lied


[16-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as bad as lying to Congress, even if Trump did tell her to lie to the press


[16-Feb-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/us/politics/trump-republican-party.html

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Trump’s Attempt to Circumvent Congress Leaves Uneasy Senate Repu...
It remains to be seen whether Senate Republicans will act collectively to try to stop the president or how far into uncharted territory they are willing to follow him.
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[16-Feb-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazon-taxes-zero-180337770.html

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Amazon will pay $0 in taxes on $11,200,000,000 in profit for 2018
Amazon avoids paying federal tax — for the second year in a row, according to a new report.
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[16-Feb-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
the republicans will be hypocritically angry about this


[16-Feb-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
if it was any other business, they wouldn't give a shit and even applaud them for avoiding, in their eyes, "legalized robbery"


[16-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
the fact that new york city was able to prevent the new amazon headquarters from being built in the face of this news shows that it's an even more important victory than before


[16-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
since it's direct proof that amazon wouldn't bring any of the benefits to the city that it was claimed they would


[16-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
on top of bringing all the bad things (gentrification, more congestion, etc)


[16-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/15/amazon-held-11th-hour-meeting-before-pulling-the-plug-on-nyc-hq2-rpts.html

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Amazon spent nearly a year fielding proposals for its HQ2, and apparently deliberated up to the last minute on whether to continue with the plans.
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[16-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Honahue#0656
Probably going to move to a right to work state


[16-Feb-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[16-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye had moved to new york they would have attempted to make it a right to work state anyway


[16-Feb-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i only hope thye dont move to nroth carolina. i cna barely afford life as is i dont need sky rocketing housing prices because bezos decided he wanted a scenic view


[16-Feb-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
I'm still not sure if right to work or at-will employment is worse


[16-Feb-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not the same?


[16-Feb-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
no, they're opposites


[16-Feb-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[16-Feb-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
right to work becomes slavery, at-will employment becomes fired for literally no reason


[16-Feb-19 10:28 PM] Honahue#0656
You can have both, right to work just means you don't have to pay union dues or join a union for a job


[16-Feb-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah you can have both


[16-Feb-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so right to work is basically "You cna have a union or you can have a job, While at will is "Hey the boss wants a pay raise so we're lettign you go because fuck you"


[16-Feb-19 10:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Last time i checked that story about the Amazon Tax was misleading. they are paying tax. They are carrying their losses from last year to this year or something like that.


[16-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
"losses"


[16-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't mean "they made negative profit last year"


[16-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
you are part of the problem


[16-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same way Trump and his family dodge taxes


[16-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
By using loopholes only available to the rich and businesses to decide they lost SO MUCH MONEY NEED RELIEF


[16-Feb-19 10:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US law is the problem.

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[16-Feb-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
even as they make profit every single year


[16-Feb-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
People aren't taking issue with the law not being followed


[16-Feb-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're taking issues with corporations and rich people managing to get a tax rate of 0 with legal trikks


[16-Feb-19 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[16-Feb-19 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
grah


[16-Feb-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking discord not scrolling


[16-Feb-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right?


[16-Feb-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ilm having this issue all over the place


[16-Feb-19 10:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Seems fine for me.


[16-Feb-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If I'm not in a channel, at some unknown trigger it'll not scroll down


[16-Feb-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's great is when you do scroll, but it thinks you didn't


[16-Feb-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
so a channel constantly says you hav unread messages until you clikk dismiss up top


[16-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That too


[16-Feb-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[16-Feb-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/us/aurora-illinois-shooting.html

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Illinois Worker Who Opened Fire Inside Factory Had No Permit for Gun
Among 5 workers killed in Aurora, Ill., was Trevor Wehner, a college student on his first day of an internship in the factory’s human resources department.
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[16-Feb-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3637320

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Tibetan woman elected student president in Ca... | Taiwan News
Chemi Lhamo's social media pages have been flooded with insults.A Tibetan student elected president of a Canadian university’s student union has been hit with backlash from Chinese peers.
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[16-Feb-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
is discrimination a reason to terminate a student's visa


[16-Feb-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_screeching in Mandarin_


[16-Feb-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
because if it isn't, it should be


[16-Feb-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
you don't deserve to be in another country studying if you can't leave your racism at home


[16-Feb-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't consider this a race thing, it's a political thing


[16-Feb-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And consider the fact that in China they never get challenged


[16-Feb-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So 18+ years of this never being challenged, they go to Canada, and someone starts talking freely


[16-Feb-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It upsets them


[17-Feb-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/mississippi-suit-cover-all-who-lost-voting-rights-judge-says-n972456

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Mississippi suit to cover all who lost voting rights, judge says
Mississippi strips the ballot from people convicted of any of 22 crimes, ranging from murder to timber larceny.
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[17-Feb-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
>A federal judge says a handful of former Mississippi convicts who are suing to have their voting rights restored can represent everyone who falls into that category.


[17-Feb-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
>The ruling this week by U.S. District Judge Daniel Jordan certifying the lawsuit as a class action raises the stakes considerably. A victory by the plaintiffs could restore voting rights to tens of thousands of Mississippians, not just the handful who sued.


[17-Feb-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/world/americas/venezuela-aid-us-air-force.html

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U.S. Military Starts Flying Aid for Venezuela to Colombia
The shipments of humanitarian aid aboard Air Force planes come as the Pentagon is preparing for the possibility of missions in Venezuela.
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[17-Feb-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weird way to say "supporting a coup in South America" but ok


[17-Feb-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1096783318799056897

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Addressing U.S. allies at the Munich Security Conference, Mike Pence is met with silence as he tells the audience: "I bring greetings from the 45th president of the United States of America, President Donald Trump." https://t.co/yr7SNVhCVf
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[17-Feb-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
ROFL


[17-Feb-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hello fellow hue mons


[17-Feb-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I bring greetings from moneybag the payment collector"


[17-Feb-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We bring you bills, we want collect, Yes"


[17-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did he... did he pause for an applause and clamor?


[17-Feb-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[17-Feb-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump probably asked him to do so expecting one


[17-Feb-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised nobody yelled out "go fuck yourself", tbh


[17-Feb-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would have


[17-Feb-19 12:57 AM] Mikey#7286
Please clap


[17-Feb-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thats why i;m not invited tof ormal events


[17-Feb-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and i dont own a suit


[17-Feb-19 12:58 AM] Mikey#7286

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[17-Feb-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One day I'll be invited to an event that says a suit is required


[17-Feb-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I'll respond with an invoice


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should have sent walmart an invoice for all those khaki pants i went through


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They had a dress uniform for work and it came out of pocket?


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[17-Feb-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another reason to avoid walmart


[17-Feb-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
khaki pants are not made for cart pushers


[17-Feb-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart stopped that bakk in June


[17-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They changed it to basically wear what you want as long as it's a shirt and solid color jeans or khakis


[17-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of that was due to them losing a case about union symbols


[17-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[17-Feb-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They disallowed any symbol on your clothing larger than your about credit card sized name badge


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which meant you couldn't wear a logo of a union on your shirt


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then they tried to tell the courts that had nothing to do with unions


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains a lot


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
as they closed down entire stores the moment people unionized...


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m so shocked


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federal gov't said fukk off


[17-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the dress code thus became pretty much "whatever"


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they giv you a vest anyways


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you must zip up


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was 0 reason to wear a blue shirt too


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the vest wasnt a thing bakc when i worked for them


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you would hav a very recognizable dress code


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
with clothes that also could be just regular clothes


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
customers would ask you for help when you were off work


[17-Feb-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-emergency-declaration-already-facing-legal-challenges-trump-2019-02-16/

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Trump's emergency declaration is already facing legal challenges
The coming legal fights seem likely to hinge on two main issues
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/02/16/f311339b-b7a1-4223-97ce-09ecd82ddd62/thumbnail/1200x630g2/a28116b63f458bfc1a89c2a72b6316e9/trumpdeclaration.jpg


[17-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
During my brief time there I greatly enjoyed the dress code going away


[17-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
put on a bright orange shirt with Derpy on it


[17-Feb-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i worked there from 2011 to 2013


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i wasnt there for the legal fights


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unzip the vest and it was time to meme about tumblr/reddit/ponies in the break room etc.


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You gotta be a dickwad to ask an employee for something when it's obvious they're just doing their own shopping


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
TSP, walmart shoppers


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
people on food stamps, mostly


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the smartest of society


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they see you've got blue shirt and tan pants


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d be on food stamps but my lack of a 40 hour job prevents me form beign so


[17-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and OH HEY


[17-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They somehow fail to realize you're not wearing a vest or badge


[17-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general, Walmart is the worst retail has to offer


[17-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can expect customers to rip open the pakkaging while you're not looking and bang into things with their carts when you are


[17-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one time when i got off work my co-worker followed me to barnes and noble and demanded to knwo why i wasnt working...


[17-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like fuck off man i;m off th ejob


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Occassionally you'll hear them rip ass or be muttering drunk about something


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Did I ever tell you about how easy it is to pick the patent attorneys out of a crowd of a bunch of attorneys


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
One customer I had to help couldn't talk


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let me enjoy my books in peace


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
he...tried... to talk


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because the latter see a dress code and follow it


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he had apparently Wernicke's Affasia


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The patent attorneys show up in blue jeans and don't give a fukk


[17-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything past the first syllable of the sentence was complete gibberish


[17-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or, as he would say it


[17-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eveemoluiet oteeol gha eonuueo wa hmmmoet


[17-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a vaguely English sounding manner


[17-Feb-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say because the patent attorney is busy making photocopies of documents and stuffing them in his briefcase


[17-Feb-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had nobody else with him to help with his disability, he was just there alone, without even a cart, holding a sokk


[17-Feb-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully it was easy to determine he just wanted new sokks in the same style as his old one.


[17-Feb-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You sure you didn't help Dobby


[17-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dobby must've put on a few hundred pounds


[17-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would explain the way he looked tho


[17-Feb-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how he managed to ressurect form the 90's though is a mystery


[17-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He seriously did hav that sort of look to his face


[17-Feb-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dobby was secretly a lich all along


[17-Feb-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, being killed just gave him a curse so he couldn't talk right


[17-Feb-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he ate all the dark wizards and became 400 pounds


[17-Feb-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And went looking for a walmart employee to free him again


[17-Feb-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/430343-pence-met-with-silence-after-mentioning-trump-in-munich-speech

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Pence met with silence after mentioning Trump in Munich speech
Vice President Pence was met with silence on Friday when he mentioned President Trump at a security conference in Munich.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pencemike_012419gn_lead.jpg


[17-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/546481826068168726/tumblr_pmmp9qdNzE1qkzq5c_500.png

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[17-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404208007166165004/536274197874343948/King_Dedede_when_you_post_a_meme_in_a_chat_but_remember_that_thats_where_you_stole_from_it.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404208007166165004/536274197874343948/King_Dedede_when_you_post_a_meme_in_a_chat_but_remember_that_thats_where_you_stole_from_it.jpg


[17-Feb-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/546481826622078976


[17-Feb-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's worse is I saw that meme in memes and shitposts before TSP posted it here


[17-Feb-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it was then posted here too I think


[17-Feb-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like the fourth time it's been on the server


[17-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dedede is probably the most pathetic Nintendo character next to Waluigi


[17-Feb-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that's saying a lot because Waluigi was created by a second party company to give Wario a partner for doubles tennis


[17-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't be mean =[


[17-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I love him for it


[17-Feb-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully in Air Ride 2 we can play as him.


[17-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That would be the best option for Kirby


[17-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In third place is Bowser when he isn't the main antagonist of a game btw


[17-Feb-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo recently confirmed that only Bowser Jr. is actually Bowser's kid


[17-Feb-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With whom I wonder


[17-Feb-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
~~Princess peach~~


[17-Feb-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Canonically not Peach


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
suuuuuuure


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
what else would she do while in captivity


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was obviously Wario


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See: best Mario game


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Super Mario Sunshine)


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Ew


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wario has been female this whole time


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
>Best game


[17-Feb-19 02:26 AM] Mikey#7286
64 was better :TwiSilly:


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If your choice isn't 64 I would be like bro


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
What I played of oddysey was also better


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sunshine was more creative


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I liked Odyssey tho


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean


[17-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odyssey 2 will be even better


[17-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Mikey#7286
there isn't really a lot to innovate with 3D mario


[17-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Mikey#7286
anymore


[17-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odyssey tried hard but it was the same thing in every kingdom


[17-Feb-19 02:29 AM] Mikey#7286
~~and when they try to innovate with Metroid you get Other M, do not innovate with Metroid~~


[17-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/16/695481252/9-11-victims-compensation-fund-cuts-payouts-by-as-much-as-70-percent

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9/11 Victim Compensation Fund Cuts Payouts By As Much As 70 Percent
The fund is reducing awards as it faces a surge in claims before the fund's 2020 expiration date.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/16/ap_19046760283998_wide-380623e604a8f8d1533ba588197b17e03f28ff8b.jpg?s=1400


[17-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
every 2D game must be like Super or ZM(sometimes Fusion) and every 3D game should be like Prime 1/2


[17-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Mikey#7286
i wouldn't be opposed to a third person 3D Metroidvania Metroid though


[17-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So what's the dem 2020 roster like so far?


[17-Feb-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ever played Stellaris as a Democracy?


[17-Feb-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[17-Feb-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you're in the middle of some horrible shit with something trying to destroy your empire and then suddenly you look at this list of who you can possibly get as a ruler and it's all people you've never heard of other than someone who would clearly be better staying where they are


[17-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's like 8 choices, they're all bad except one, and if you had played your cards better you could've hit a button four times to mostly guarantee they get elected


[17-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh well, you say, as you continue to watch everything crumble, but now you've got +5% energy


[17-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are down the one guy who was gonna actually fix things, oh well


[17-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
how many confirmed candidates are there so far?


[17-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
tl;dr the roster is full of randos most people never heard of before


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Mikey#7286
aside from maybe Warren


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
warren might be notorious enough for people to remember


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
and bernie of course


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
other than that, I don't remember any of the candidates


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Mikey#7286
everyone else i've literally never heard of


[17-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
I remember the ex-california AG who's apparently super pro-cop and pro-private prisons


[17-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
but I don't remember her name


[17-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Mikey#7286
Kamala Harris


[17-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
but I never heard of her until she announced she was running


[17-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-democratic-candidates-for-president-2020-story.html

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-democratic-candidates-for-president-2020-story.html
Campaign 2020: The list of Democratic presidential candidates who ...
Campaign 2020: Here are the Democratic candidates running for president hoping to challenge Donald Trump in 2020.
https://www.trbimg.com/img-5c60e405/turbine/ct-democratic-candidates-for-president-2020


[17-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
>democratic candidates


[17-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
>trump as the preview image


[17-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
fail


[17-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
the dream team would be bernie/warren as president/VP or vice versa


[17-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
but I doubt either of them will win the nomination


[17-Feb-19 03:39 AM] Mikey#7286
"candidates who want to topple Trump"


[17-Feb-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
the only ones I know from that list are warren and gabbard


[17-Feb-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
and I only know gabbard because she was touted as younger female bernie


[17-Feb-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
back during the 2016 campaigns


[17-Feb-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
she wasn't old enough to be a candidate then though


[17-Feb-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
she was the vice chair of the DNC during the campaign and resigned before endorsing bernie, back before clinton bought out all the votes


[17-Feb-19 03:45 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[17-Feb-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
also, I thought bernie announced he was running again


[17-Feb-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
or at least was seriously considering it


[17-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice

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[17-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We've bloated our site with so many insidious ads we just don't know how to serve the site without them"


[17-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.is/IdxUk

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Campaign 2020: The list of Democratic presidential candidates who ...
archived 17 Feb 2019 03:11:29 UTC
https://archive.is/IdxUk/f69742385969037f8daa743a450e187450b53331/scr.png


[17-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Mikey#7286
the hell


[17-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They run taboola ads, among others


[17-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XawniytIXF0

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USA TODAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XawniytIXF0
Willie McCoy, California rapper, killed by police in his car
A California rapper was fatally shot after he was found sleeping in a car at a Taco Bell drive-thru. The family of the man who was fatally shot is accusing a...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XawniytIXF0/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
black dude sleeping in his car fucking destroyed by 7 cops surrounding his car


[17-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he had a gun in his lap


[17-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably was contemplating suicide and fell asleep


[17-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
some white dude made sure to get the police to finish the job.


[17-Feb-19 04:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Let me see your hands!" You're supposed to tell them that before everyone starts firing until their guns are empty. Deliberate execution.


[17-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they said stuff


[17-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he just kept sleeping


[17-Feb-19 04:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He should have stopped resisting.


[17-Feb-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris/Biden/Sanders IMO at this point


[17-Feb-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pick two


[17-Feb-19 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Sanders twice


[17-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, what about warren?


[17-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
she's literally the only name on the list of candidates that I recognize other than gabbard


[17-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
I only recognize gabbard because she stepped down from vice chair of the DNC to endorse bernie


[17-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
sanders hasn't announced he's running yet


[17-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/430333-washington-state-house-committee-passes-bill-to-ban-vaccine-exemptions

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Washington state House committee passes bill to ban personal, phil...
A Washington state House committee on Friday passed a bill to ban the personal or philosophical exemption for the vaccine against measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) for school-age children amid an outbreak of the virus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mumpsvaccine_03212018getty.jpg


[17-Feb-19 10:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-antifada/ep-38-off-with-their-hogs-w-corey-pein/

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Ep 38: Off With Their Hogs! w/ Corey Pein – The Antifada – Podcast
Author, journalist and cat dad @coreypein joins us to gives us some important updates on what he described in last year's excellent 'Live Work Work Work Die': the hyper-capitalist hells... – Listen to Ep 38: Off With Their Hogs! w/ Corey Pein by The Antifada instantly on yo...
https://podtail.com/content/images/podcast/artwork/600/t/h/the-antifada.jpg


[17-Feb-19 10:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
As I posted as a description in Tartarus: "Journalist and author Corey Pein is invited on the AntiFada to do an interview on the current state of Silicon Valley. Pein, who has just released a book titled "Live Work Work Work Die" had spent some time, living as well as he could in the Bay Area and visiting it detailing the conditions of the people chasing the next unicorn in the hub of America’s tech industry. From the wild west activity of investors seizing control of companies out from under neath their founders to even normal people and workers being priced out and pushed into living in sub-standard conditions to simply do what is done with a relatively normal quality of life elsewhere and how the presences of Facebook, Google, and Amazon are pushing non-tech workers into effective relative poverty, the march on the return to Company Towns among the big companies, Google basically flaunting intellectual property rights, and how everyone – even Tesla and SpaceX – using publicly funded research to get free (basically, for them) patents.

And the colonization of the social sphere for the interest of profit."


[17-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/arec9d/google_caught_lying_about_reason_behind_ad/egmohcw/

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r/programming - Google caught lying about reason behind ad blocker...
276 votes and 49 comments so far on Reddit
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[17-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
>That's too naive. What they'd do is also make the API indespensible in the standard - ala, web DRM style - and sites could ensure that stuff fails in firefox because it didn't implement "the standard".


[17-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
google's also gearing up for big power grabs, but they seem to have jumped the gun


[17-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
if they had waited like 10 years, they could've easily done something like this without any real opposition because the competition was moving to make everything reliant on the chrome/chromium standard


[17-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
but firefox is still largely its own browser


[17-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47269827

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47269827
Smollett 'paid Nigerians to attack him'
The actor's lawyers deny the latest reports, which come after Chicago police released two men.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/2C21/production/_105679211_mediaitem105679210.jpg


[17-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wild


[17-Feb-19 04:37 PM] ononim#8141
Princely Assault


[17-Feb-19 06:49 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1097035544930983937

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One Angry Gamer (@OneAngryGamerHD)
https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1097035544930983937
U.N. Proposes Initiative To Ban Loli, Shota, And Underage 'Drawings And Cartoons' | #ロリ #漫画 # アニメ #anime #manga #WarOnWaifus #censorship https://t.co/fPW36VlncZ
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Twitter


[17-Feb-19 06:50 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
UN is focusing on this while REAL children and CP are being traffiked. And real children arebeing forced into marraiges, marraiges they even considered as "part of human rights" essentials?


[17-Feb-19 06:50 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Where the fuck are their priorities?


[17-Feb-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because stopping real child sex crimes is hard. this is easier.  All you have to do is argue that loli is a gateway drug for pedos and the votes will come in for this initiative.


[17-Feb-19 06:54 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's almost like pedos trying to se this as smokescreen to distract the public fromt he real issues


[17-Feb-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d say it's more politicians using this to appease their easier to please voters while not actually doing anything productive


[17-Feb-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's like banning aspirin to attack opioids


[17-Feb-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it does nothing but if you say it does soemthing then you look liek the good guy and get all  the votes while throwing people under a bus to save face


[17-Feb-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's a sacrifice you're willing to make


[17-Feb-19 07:11 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Ain't this the same "human rights cpouncil" the same one that considered child marraiges as a "human right"?


[17-Feb-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
China wants to distract everyone with censorship so they can start implementing all their party's ideals slowly


[17-Feb-19 08:05 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Nebbie  Yes, they do


[17-Feb-19 08:06 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Take note of what countries are on the heads of the" hooman rights" council, it should speak for itself.


[17-Feb-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan's anime lobby tried to fight this.


[17-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, Japan has an anime lobby. And no, they are not well liked, I'd guess the majority of Japanese people do want loli etc banned.


[17-Feb-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The majority of Japanese people don't want the UN telling them what to do


[17-Feb-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
they might not especially care about anime or manga, but they see the UN coming in to tell them to kill one of their big industries and aren't happy.


[17-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, Japan also hates foreigners


[17-Feb-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they aren't gonna can their tourism industry


[17-Feb-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very Japanese thing to secretly want someone thrown off a cliff, but to smile and take their money and even encourage them to stay around.


[17-Feb-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember, they're collectivist


[17-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Going and doing what you want that'd hurt society isn't big on their todo lists.


[17-Feb-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Germany had a shrine dedicated to their war dead that said anyone dedicated basically goes to heaven and is honorable


[17-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now imagine Goring, Goebbels, and Mengele are honored there


[17-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now imagine Merkel going there all the time and the German people getting upset that other countries don't like this


[17-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now imagine if a German office of Ubisoft went to it on a "team building" trip


[17-Feb-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh no, but because Japan got nuked twice we can't criticize them.


[17-Feb-19 09:12 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Itsthinking  Given how vague and nonsenssical the concept of censoring fiction often is. This is just another attempt at pushing a venue for power abuse.


[17-Feb-19 09:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I guess the anime lobby is like the NRA in the US.


[17-Feb-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously yes


[17-Feb-19 10:24 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-belarus-unite-absorb-union-vladimir-putin-alexander-lukashenko-1333800

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Russia may absorb Belarus: "We’re ready to unite," president says
The two nations agreed to a "union state" arrangement in the late 1990s.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/02/16/belarus-russia-unite-alexander-lukashenko-vladimir-putin.jpg


[17-Feb-19 10:24 PM] moonatik#3676
ono


[17-Feb-19 10:27 PM] moonatik#3676
who will prevail? lukashenko's desire for personal empowerment or the overwhelming russian influence?


[17-Feb-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-trolls-promoted-anti-vaccination-propaganda-measles-outbreak-1332016

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Russian trolls promoted anti-vaccination propaganda that may have ...
The same Russian trolls who attempted to provoke racial tensions and influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election were also responsible for spreading propaganda against vaccinations.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/02/14/gettyimages-910357966-594x594.jpg


[17-Feb-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It could be worse; you could be the troll assigned to shitpost about Star Wars


[17-Feb-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody should be surprised


[17-Feb-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We've all played 4x games with cultural victory conditions


[17-Feb-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thinking an enemy can only use military might or economic power to fight a war is silly


[17-Feb-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Stellaris needs a thing where you just dump in energy and you convince the Genocidal Space UwU Foxes that, actually, it's okay to be gay for tentacles.


[17-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then the evil Jellyfish do it to you and suddenly your people want an oligarchy that only fights the Borg


[17-Feb-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
as the Jellyfish set up crime on every one of your planets.


[17-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Space Furries?


[17-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Megacorp DLC added a gov't type of the same name, and it's basically Russia


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Err, actually


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mix of Japan and furries that just placate your enemies with tentacles and furry cartoons


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It added two new gov't types, one of which is basically Russia


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Criminal Syndicate


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of which


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Totally legit space empire that runs on crime in other people's empires


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia is gonna anschluss Belarus


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Soon


[17-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
to make loads of money


[17-Feb-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there is a preset for Genocidal Space Foxes, Its


[17-Feb-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A case of devs putting something in after art was made about the game


[17-Feb-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder what kind of plane accident Lukashenko is going to have


[17-Feb-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.chapelcomic.com/39/

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The Chapel - First Contact
Second contact was the hideous peace monsters.
https://chapelcomic.com/i/thb/39b.jpg


[17-Feb-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, the space foxes you can meet in the game giv you that exact message on first contact


[17-Feb-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
My bet's on "pilot error" directly into a mountain,TSP


[17-Feb-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/gahs7yigz9iy.png

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[17-Feb-19 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[17-Feb-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never try to sell car insurance to space nazis.


[17-Feb-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lukashenko loves Daddy Putin


[17-Feb-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but does he liv him enuff?


[17-Feb-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Putin wants absolute control.


[17-Feb-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus it is a way to get around the Russian constitution


[17-Feb-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He will be tearing things up to get it until he dies.


[17-Feb-19 11:47 PM] ononim#8141
no way he will actually anshlus it lel


[17-Feb-19 11:47 PM] ononim#8141
ttaking care of all the infrastructure and losing a close ally


[17-Feb-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/snl-mocked-trump-national-emergency-alec-baldwin-wall-makes-safe-2019-2

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'SNL' mocked Trump's border wall national emergency — and Trump ...
Alec Baldwin appeared as Trump delivering an announcement in the White House's Rose Garden about the "fake" national emergency.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c69600a26289840ab142104-1334-667.jpg


[17-Feb-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
>Trump hit back against the show in an early morning tweet, saying its political sketches were "total Republican hit jobs."


[17-Feb-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God he just doesn't want any parody at all does he


[17-Feb-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People made fun of him for years before being president


[18-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I get the impression that if Trump knew this channel existed he'd tweet about how we're all losers


[18-Feb-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bronies for Trump would then try to damage control


[18-Feb-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who would buy someone else's Nobel Prize


[18-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the point, it's like buying a trophy at a store


[18-Feb-19 12:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I 'unno, ask the buyer


[18-Feb-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same people that buy oscars


[18-Feb-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rich degenerates that want to flaunt their wealth


[18-Feb-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With maybe a few that are rich and don't want the former to have it on display


[18-Feb-19 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cory-booker-withholding-judgment-on-smollett-case-after-calling-it-attempted-modern-day-lynching

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Cory Booker 'withholding' judgment on Smollett case after calling ...
Democratic presidential candidate Cory Booker told reporters Sunday that he would withhold judgment on the alleged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett after calling the incident "an attempted modern-day lynching" when it was first reported last month.
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[18-Feb-19 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The last 20 seconds are gold


[18-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whole video is "Dems were quick to condemn the alleged attack, but now they're silent!"


[18-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the guy on the right accidentally points out "Even Trump said the attack was terrible", guy on the left asks why this segment isn't about why Trump is being just as silent as well


[18-Feb-19 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suddenly, host ends it


[18-Feb-19 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus


[18-Feb-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus


[18-Feb-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was the guy on the left their pet liberal


[18-Feb-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forget his name


[18-Feb-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably got a stern talking to for pointing out the hypocrisy of the hitpiece


[18-Feb-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, his name is chip fanklin


[18-Feb-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hate when I chip my fanklin


[18-Feb-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
just take care not to chip your kennedy


[18-Feb-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can get a cream for that now


[18-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/17/democrats-2020-elections-ocasio-cortez-sanders-centrists

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Leftwing Democrats steal the 2020 spotlight but can centrists figh...
Many Democratic contenders have touted their progressive credentials – which some say leaves the center lane open
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[18-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[18-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol stop this weird shit and just compromise with a VP


[18-Feb-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like what's supposed to happen


[18-Feb-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
s p l i t   t h e   p a r t y


[18-Feb-19 01:50 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/three-teachers-new-york-put-leave-after-noose-images-displayed-n970591

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Three teachers put on leave after noose image displayed in New Yor...
"You have half the community saying, 'This is an atrocity,' and then you have another half defending it, saying, 'Oh, it was supposed to be a joke,'" the school board president said.
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[18-Feb-19 01:50 AM] illumnious#7938

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[18-Feb-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nooses didn't exist before black lynching, and have only ever been used in that context since


[18-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally millennial and gen Z humor


[18-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
but that type of humor is cringy as fuck irl


[18-Feb-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joking about how you want to "die" isn't funny


[18-Feb-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
considering how prevalent and popular it is on the internet, there has to be some charm to it which appeals to a lot of people


[18-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/17/trump-russia-collusion-adam-schiff-1173434

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‘Evidence in plain sight’ of Trump collusion with Russia, Schi...
He rejects statements to the contrary by Sen. Richard Burr.
https://static.politico.com/54/2c/d5c3801d4c7180d1321c2ed8abfa/190217-schiff-ap-773.jpg


[18-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Things just smell.


[18-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said collusion is not criminal conspiracy


[18-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
?


[18-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“There is a difference between seeing evidence of collusion and being able to prove a criminal conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt.”


[18-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[18-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That amounts to "you don't hav sufficient proof to put him in jail"


[18-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a big layer of semantics to try to obscure and say that things are *different*


[18-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>random police stop for alcohol test
>breathalizer's good
>patrolman checks the glovebox without a warrant
>envelope with 200 USD in 20s
>arrests you on suspicion of dealing with illegal goods, keeps the cash


[18-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>politician proudly claims to have broken multiple laws on live national TV
NO EVIDENCE


[18-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine if police treated Trump like people who went to a party hosted by someone without a liquor license.


[18-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
$900 to get your car bakk


[18-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/mv7GFid.jpg

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[18-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism in a nutshell


[18-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alcohol dispensing places are interesting


[18-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have an inherent right own a business, but not one that dispenses alcohol.

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[18-Feb-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
You could make a religion out of this

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[18-Feb-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWSlgqDBak

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The Alt-Right's Asian Fetish
Support The Show: Paypal ► https://www.paypal.me/shortfatotaku Subscribestar ► https://www.subscribestar.com/shortfatotaku Humble Bundle Affiliate Link ► htt...
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[18-Feb-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
>Adolf Hitler was one of the world's first weebs.


[18-Feb-19 11:10 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
am i the only one who wants mj legalize?


[18-Feb-19 11:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know what MJ is


[18-Feb-19 11:10 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the green stuff


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a lot of green things. Expand.


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
marihuana


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, yes. Sure.


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wait am i the only one who wants it legal?


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
No


[18-Feb-19 11:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
good


[18-Feb-19 11:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
heck even my family wants it legal


[18-Feb-19 11:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and they are conservatives


[18-Feb-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's pretty popular public-wise so it doesn't surprise me.


[18-Feb-19 11:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
plus its better then the shit they have in chemicals


[18-Feb-19 11:13 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i am a more natural med type of dude


[18-Feb-19 11:13 AM] Crow#5457
holy christ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWSlgqDBak&t=476>


[18-Feb-19 11:13 AM] Crow#5457
this youtuber went full racist about 3/4 of the way through


[18-Feb-19 11:13 AM] Crow#5457
saying black cultures are "inferior" because other cultures value "hard work"


[18-Feb-19 11:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal Well given history I wouldn't be entirely surprised when or if it begins being cut in order to provide more desirable qualities; slower burn or something.


[18-Feb-19 11:15 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the human race is superior it don't matter race or sex


[18-Feb-19 11:15 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we are all human


[18-Feb-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
"European cultures value hard work. Asian cultures value hard work. Jewish culture values hard work. Can you guess the racial makeup of the most successful individuals in society?"


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
blacks work hard too


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so does Hispanics


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The virgin race realism.


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we all work hard


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
vs the chad material dialectic


[18-Feb-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
for some reason, I was getting massive "this is a trap video to get you to agree with a racist" vibes from the beginning


[18-Feb-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
"We can judge a culture by what it produces, and if it produces ghettos and gangs and inter-city crime, or parental abandonment and drug use and exploitative prostitution, or religious extremism and terrorism and sex slavery, and genital mutilation, we can judge that culture to be morally bankrupt."


[18-Feb-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
that last one sounds like catholicism


[18-Feb-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
"religious extremism" is the IRA in a nutshell


[18-Feb-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
same with terrorism


[18-Feb-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
wait, does catholicism do circumcision, or is that only jews and muslims?


[18-Feb-19 11:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think so.


[18-Feb-19 11:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I'm not going to ask an Irishman to drop his pants for me to check.


[18-Feb-19 12:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk

You can ask @DevField


[18-Feb-19 12:42 PM] DevField#5162
:sosmol:


[18-Feb-19 12:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@DevField

Are you ginger btw?


[18-Feb-19 12:46 PM] DevField#5162
Nah, heh


[18-Feb-19 12:47 PM] DevField#5162
Just black hair. :>


[18-Feb-19 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/aruj9e/british_parliament_calls_facebook_digital/

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r/privacy - British parliament calls Facebook "Digital Gangsters"
244 votes and 13 comments so far on Reddit


[18-Feb-19 03:42 PM] illumnious#7938

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[18-Feb-19 04:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
ebil cnn guyz


[18-Feb-19 05:48 PM] ononim#8141
what is even the joke here


[18-Feb-19 05:48 PM] ononim#8141
I am not even against, I am just confused


[18-Feb-19 06:01 PM] Honahue#0656
Black culture values hard work, where does he think the term hustle came from? Side hustle, wake up and hustle shit that second one is just slang for some Marcus Aurelious wit


[18-Feb-19 06:28 PM] Arvid#8335
Uh, I don't get the joke either


[18-Feb-19 06:29 PM] Arvid#8335
Are those two black guys in the picture Trump supporters or something and CNN thinks they're white? Is that the joke?


[18-Feb-19 07:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1085447/labour-new-party-rachel-riley-jk-rowling-Jonathan-Powell-Philip-Collins

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Labour Party REBELS UNITE: Rachel Riley and JK Rowling attend SECR...
COUNTDOWN star Rachel Riley and Harry Potter author JK Rowling are reported to have attended a secret meeting in a bid to launch a breakaway Labour Party.
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[18-Feb-19 07:19 PM] ononim#8141
I Want To Speak With Your Manager Party


[18-Feb-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/california-ag-least-13-states-suing-over-trump-s-national-n972796

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California AG: At least 13 states suing over Trump’s national em...
"The president does have broad authority. But he does not have authority to violate the Constitution," Xavier Becerra said on Monday.
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[18-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47283737

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Trump lashes out at 'treasonous' officials
The US president vents anger at an "illegal act", amid claims there were discussions to oust him.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p0715f4d.jpg


[18-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
>Mr Trump tweeted of "illegal and treasonous" behaviour and an "illegal coup attempt".


[18-Feb-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/18/18229336/pledge-of-allegiance-arrest-florida-school

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A Florida boy was arrested after refusing to recite the Pledge of ...
The 11-year-old’s arrest is an example of the school-to-prison pipeline in action.
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[18-Feb-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/arj4ic/til_america_has_a_hague_invasion_act_in_which_the/

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[18-Feb-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
**LMAO**


[18-Feb-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
"To Talbot’s point, the situation is emblematic of what criminal justice reform advocates have called the “school-to-prison pipeline.” Discipline that in the past would have likely involved just a school, the student, and the student’s parents increasingly also involves law enforcement — leading to consequences not just within the school but with the criminal justice system as well. This can lead to lasting damage, not just through a juvenile or criminal record but by also taking students out of school (which can heighten the risk of criminal activity)."


[18-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, sounds taken out of context


[18-Feb-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
"to protect United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the United States is not party.


[18-Feb-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
>an international criminal court to which the United States is not party.


[18-Feb-19 10:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6686861/Countdown-star-Rachel-Riley-teaming-advisers-Blairs-government-launch-new-party.html

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Countdown star Rachel Riley joins Labour rebels to plot new party
Countdown star Rachel Riley and Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling’s agent are teaming up with advisers from Tony Blair’s Government to launch a breakaway Labour Party within weeks.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/09/23/9608252-0-image-a-26_1549754362746.jpg


[18-Feb-19 10:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
C U R S E D A R T I C L E


[18-Feb-19 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking


[18-Feb-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misread that as rachel ray and got very confused for a second


[18-Feb-19 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
E X C U S E    M E    B U T    I     W O U L D     L I K E    T O    S P E A K    T O     T H E    G E N E R A L     S E C R E T A R Y


[18-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
little 11 year old kids are being arrested for not conforming to nationalism :(


[18-Feb-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
even though he wasn't actually required to stand up for the pledge of allegiance anyway


[18-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
substitute teacher got angry he wasn't standing up


[18-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
90% sure this is a violation of the first amendment


[18-Feb-19 10:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Patriotism sucks


[18-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
patriotism isn't nationalism


[18-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

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Police sources: New evidence suggests Jussie Smollett orchestrated...
Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation tell CNN that Chicago Police believe the actor Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate an assault on him that he reported late last month.
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[18-Feb-19 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way, openly believing JK Rowling would make a good politician should be a felony


[18-Feb-19 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh


[18-Feb-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm glad college doesnt have pledge of alegiance


[18-Feb-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least my college doesnt


[18-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Mine never did


[18-Feb-19 10:45 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Always felt inappropriate to me what with the under god line


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
All colleges should sing the only anthem that matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POH14-HMGFc

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The Internationale "L'Internationale" - French Version
Originally composed by Pierre de Geyter in 1888, it has been the standard for most socialist and left wing movements with the Second Internationale adopting ...
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[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
I've never heard of a college requiring the pledge of allegiance


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think colleges do


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
also, the "under god" was added in later


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah I know it was


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Makes it doubly inappropriate


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least mine doesn't, and it looks like a lot of other colleges don't


[18-Feb-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
the original pledge of allegiance didn't have that part


[18-Feb-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i beleive the original line was "Devisible under mothman"


[18-Feb-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah that part is extremely crammed in there and out of p-lace


[18-Feb-19 10:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why did we all state the pledge again?


[18-Feb-19 10:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think saying the pledge is needed to, y'know, be loyal to the US


[18-Feb-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
propaganda that stuck aorudn mostly


[18-Feb-19 10:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"the Supreme Court has ruled in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette that students cannot be compelled to recite the Pledge, nor can they be punished for not doing so"


[18-Feb-19 10:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok seriously florida school


[18-Feb-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
it's a form of collectivism


[18-Feb-19 10:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah, I'm definitely getting out of here as soon as I can


[18-Feb-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it came about during war time as a way to instill collectivism and loyalty into young children so they wouldnt grow up into communists


[18-Feb-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was also partially instilled by a company who sold flags to schools, kinda like how thanksgiving became more popular because a turkey farm needed sales


[19-Feb-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Considering that international students go to American colleges it'd be pretty fucking weird to do the pledge


[19-Feb-19 12:13 AM] Honahue#0656
>tfw my next college essay unambiguously states that patriotism and nationalism are dumb I even cite Schopenhaur


[19-Feb-19 12:25 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The last two states of emergency in the us:
George W. Bush: The United States is now under a national emergency. The Twin Towers were destroyed by terrorists and the Pentagon was attacked. There was an attempt by terrorists to fly a plane into the White House. Thousands are dead, thousands more are injured. 


Donald Trump: The United States is now under a national emergency. Some guys wanted to get in the country illegally and congress said no to my wall. I really really really wanted that wall guys


[19-Feb-19 02:15 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
shadilay


[19-Feb-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when you unironically miss W because the current president is just that bad


[19-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does The Onion still exist?


[19-Feb-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do they push out articles about a happy alternate universe where Things Are OK now?


[19-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They most push out articles that are exactly what Trump is doing, but with less sugarcoating and a little more lawbreaking.


[19-Feb-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a pretty easy job now


[19-Feb-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/trump-base-celebrates-president-for-standing-up-to-cons-1832659448

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Trump Base Celebrates President For Standing Up To Constitution
WASHINGTON—Enthusiastically praising the commander-in-chief for holding firm in the face of opposition, Donald Trump’s political base cheered on the president Friday for standing up to the U.S. Constitution. “He stayed strong and really showed the Constitution who’s b...
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[19-Feb-19 02:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I hate how easy it is to satirize the president now


[19-Feb-19 02:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why can't Trump just not be a deranged loony for once


[19-Feb-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile I read about 80's/90's corruption and drug capitalism

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[19-Feb-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When big news gets buried so Bush Sr. doesn't get yeeted on


[19-Feb-19 03:46 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/16-states-sue-trump-administration-over-national-emergency-declaration/ HA

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16 states sue Trump administration over national emergency declaration
Bypassing Congress, President Trump declared a national emergency last week to access billions of dollars in funds to construct a border wall
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/02/16/f311339b-b7a1-4223-97ce-09ecd82ddd62/thumbnail/1200x630g2/a28116b63f458bfc1a89c2a72b6316e9/trumpdeclaration.jpg


[19-Feb-19 03:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😆


[19-Feb-19 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
It’s time for a fucking celebration.


[19-Feb-19 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Felox describes Hauntology as he describes a false 00's https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/290-maximum-boot-feat-lyle-jeremy-rubin-and-lyndon-larouche-21719

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290 - Maximum Boot feat. Lyle Jeremy Rubin and Lyndon LaRouche (2/...
Possibly deceased politician, economist, philosopher and musicologist Lyndon LaRouche* calls in to explain the secret KGB-House of Windsor population reduction cabal. We're then joined by writer Lyle
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[19-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5tIMPOR

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This is murica
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[19-Feb-19 04:30 AM] illumnious#7938
Welcome to America


[19-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tKtzSB2.png

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Great Prosperity vs Great Regression
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[19-Feb-19 05:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/03/ex-israeli-spymaster-who-helped-capture-adolf-eichmann-releases-video-in-support-of-german-far-right-party/


[19-Feb-19 05:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Big oof


[19-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that israel is borderline authoritarian and very much on the right


[19-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's nationalistic as fuck


[19-Feb-19 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, sometimes their actions feel straight up macchiavelian


[19-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
has all the same problems any fully right government does


[19-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
like rampant corruption


[19-Feb-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
killing neighbors for not being them


[19-Feb-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that Menachem Begin, once prime minister of Israel, was a terrorist in the 1940's


[19-Feb-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
they're basically built from the ground up to be defensive instead of inclusive


[19-Feb-19 05:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-zionism-s-terrorist-heritage-1.6217633

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Zionism's terrorist heritage | Opinion
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[19-Feb-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel has racial profiling as like 50% of their airport security


[19-Feb-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
israel has no place being called a democracy by the US


[19-Feb-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
or anyone


[19-Feb-19 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1097652491926130688
https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1097574608692264961
the actual fuck

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Roger Stone now directly attacking the federal judge presiding over his case and posting a pic of her head beside crosshairs
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[19-Feb-19 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[19-Feb-19 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lindsey-graham-kentucky-school-border_n_5c69ef82e4b01757c36ca404

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Sen. Lindsey Graham Says Kentucky Kids Need A 'Secure Border' Befo...
"Right now we've got a national emergency," the South Carolina "Trumpsplainer" insisted.
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[19-Feb-19 05:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh no not the ohioans


[19-Feb-19 05:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what shall Kentucky ever do to defend themselves from those dastardly Cincinnatians


[19-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Ohaio


[19-Feb-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
~~ohayou~~


[19-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdQkKc5egIg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdQkKc5egIg
OHAYO GOZAIMAAAAASUU~
Gatchaman Crowds 08 because
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[19-Feb-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Kentucky should sign a mutual defense pact with Michigan and together we can destroy Ohio.


[19-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JDeePGH/status/1097163986502631425

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@CBSNews When did Kentucky become a border state?
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[19-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/richschellhase/status/1097164275985076225

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@JDeePGH @CBSNews 1861
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[19-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
>When did Kentucky become a border state?


[19-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
>1861


[19-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
🔥


[19-Feb-19 05:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was trying to think of a joke related to NATO with the mutual defense pact


[19-Feb-19 05:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I failed


[19-Feb-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
if the US had another civil war, which side would NATO support?


[19-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
honestly, who knows


[19-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm guessing whatever side has DC, though


[19-Feb-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the side that corporations choose?


[19-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Honestly one side would want to reject NATO anyway


[19-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, it's the side that controls DC which would probably reject NATO


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are if america divided in civil war, there would likely be attempts from an outside country to claim atleast half of america while the forces are divided


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
lol, the US is way too far away to claim


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
unless canada and mexico want a piece of it


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
that's why the US is so dominant


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
it has such an isolated area to project power from


[19-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
the US is literally on easy mode


[19-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's the same reason why britain was so dominant for so long, only on crack


[19-Feb-19 06:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's why WWI and WW2 barely touched our soil


[19-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
I don't actually think WW1 touched our soil at all, except for maybe one case of some german soldiers on a boat


[19-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
right when WW1 broke out


[19-Feb-19 06:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was going to bring up the Zimmerman Telegram that was an attempt to bring it here


[19-Feb-19 06:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but your example actually happened


[19-Feb-19 06:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what about inside parties?


[19-Feb-19 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the several dozen politicians sucking putin;s dick right now


[19-Feb-19 06:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m actually asking. I have no idea if that's even a possible tactic or not


[19-Feb-19 07:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
WW1 was for profit, so of course the US entered it


[19-Feb-19 07:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
WW2 wasn't as much, hence the delays


[19-Feb-19 07:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
You actually had a president that ran on not entering ww1


[19-Feb-19 07:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
He did months later


[19-Feb-19 07:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
'democracy'


[19-Feb-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Joining a war tends to happen when unrestricted submarine warfare starts sinking your shipping


[19-Feb-19 07:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
War got the US out if the great depression anyway $$$$$$, turns out WW2 was very profitable in the end


[19-Feb-19 07:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not to mention that capitalists in the US we're funding Nazis before they joined the war


[19-Feb-19 07:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
As much as that is true, I highly doubt that the reason to join WW2 was for money


[19-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
WW2 was because japan bombed pearl harbor


[19-Feb-19 07:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
^


[19-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
WW1 was because of all the ship sinking


[19-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
plus that telegram being intercepted was huge as well


[19-Feb-19 07:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah, again, capitalists in the US were funding the Nazis, so I'm sure that upset them when the US joined the war, it just so happened to be economically excellent


[19-Feb-19 07:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
And so the US became a great imperialist power because it was good for profits


[19-Feb-19 07:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
See: central and southern america


[19-Feb-19 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
So the nice side effect became the basis for American imperialism, woo


[19-Feb-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
As much as money probably DOES play a factor in joining a war, it's often only a side factor


[19-Feb-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pretty sure the most economically rewarding path in war is to stay neutral


[19-Feb-19 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Post WW2 it's the main factor for America, I can't see any reason why not


[19-Feb-19 07:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
>CIA gets to control Japan and America can take in $$
>CIA wants to control Vietnam so America can take in $$
>CIA not very good at controlling Vietnam so support Pol Pot


[19-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
>Chad Vietcong BTFOs both


[19-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wew


[19-Feb-19 07:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Vietnam and Korea were more an attempt to contain the spread of Communism


[19-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, the US supported Pol pot to BTFO the Vietcong
Which is a threat to profits


[19-Feb-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What resources does Vietnam have that the US wants, exactly?


[19-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
US rakes in and raked in so much $$$ from Japan and more recently South Korea


[19-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
pol pot was cambodia though


[19-Feb-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[19-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cheap Labor becomes less common as countries develop more independence


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
So new cheaper Labor by de-stablizing countries


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I'm pretty sure Vietnam sucked in Cambodia and Laos conflicts tio


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
and pol pot was communist iirc


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
See: central and southern America


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
The past century and CIA sponsored coups


[19-Feb-19 07:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's harder to explain; the US would not back a communist leader


[19-Feb-19 07:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
>Reee muh poor fruit companies profits
>They must be gommies and you should kill them daddy USA
Banana republic time


[19-Feb-19 07:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
>actually just social democrats that were sick of people not being able to own land and starving


[19-Feb-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I really don't think the US government sought out those countries for "cheap labor"


[19-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
he might've been opportunistic and took advantage of the destabilization to the point that him coming to power could be indirectly blamed on the CIA, but he wasn't directly supported


[19-Feb-19 07:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
What is NAFTA?


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
though he was an incredibly good source of anti-communist propaganda, even today


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
North American Free Trade Agreement


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
like 40% of his country died from starvation


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
on purpose


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
That was rhetorical


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I wanna know what you're getting at


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
and he outright executed every single college-educated native


[19-Feb-19 07:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's basically largely why wages are so low in Brazil and Mexico still, profits.


[19-Feb-19 07:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
More profits = more reasons to keep it that way


[19-Feb-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And... How?


[19-Feb-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How exactly does NAFTA keep wages low there


[19-Feb-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Never mind that Brazil isn't implicated in NAFTA


[19-Feb-19 07:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
Well, that was a slip up on my part, but the CIA coups play a large role in keeping the countries underdeveloped


[19-Feb-19 07:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
And NAFTA is just an extension of keeping places under American dependence and control


[19-Feb-19 07:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
Economic dependence


[19-Feb-19 07:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
So can't piss off burgerland corporations or Mexico's profits will fall


[19-Feb-19 07:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not ethical, it's simply rational


[19-Feb-19 07:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rational increase and protection of profits


[19-Feb-19 07:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's important to view things in this framing where morals don't really mean anything and it's simply what's rational for the leaders to do given their interests and class.


[19-Feb-19 07:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just think, if Mexico's wages suddenly went up and unions were militant, plenty of Americans may stop importing


[19-Feb-19 07:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
They stop importing and this infrastructure for export is still running?


[19-Feb-19 07:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
What do?


[19-Feb-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I need to read up a little more on NAFTA, but from what I know, wasn't NAFTA supposed to reduce trade barriers and basically allow more imports from CAN and MEX?


[19-Feb-19 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
After all it's in the economic interests of the US and Canada to get cheap as possible products and Labor to produce products


[19-Feb-19 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
Which are then sold at normal prices


[19-Feb-19 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
So: cars


[19-Feb-19 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
For example


[19-Feb-19 07:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cars aren't going to be cheap, but if one can source the Labor and materials cheaply and sell them at full price


[19-Feb-19 07:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
Look at all that profit vs paying Americans to do it


[19-Feb-19 07:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's rational


[19-Feb-19 07:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
There is no moral or ethical argument that other people are paid less for the same labor


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
There is only a rational one: profit


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
cars made to be sold in mexico are worse than even the least safe cars built to be sold in the US or europe


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
like they're practically death machines


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Less taxes means more profit


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's a spook


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
and they're produced at the same factories


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
They're made with the same shit essentially


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just workers are more likely to die making them


[19-Feb-19 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
And are paid less


[19-Feb-19 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's mostly machines, if the raw metals n stuff are proven worse quality, sure, but it's likely poorer quality gasoline honestly.


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
Poor quality gas = bad for car
Just as shitty quality handmade rounds are shit for a gun


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not talking about how long they last


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
I'm talking about getting into accidents


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why would the CIA actively support an arrangement that moves jobs out of the US


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You bring up how the public sphere is actively doing this


[19-Feb-19 07:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because it's profitable


[19-Feb-19 07:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But only the private domain benefits from this arrangement


[19-Feb-19 07:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If anything, this DAMAGES the US economy by moving jobs overseas and increasing unemployment


[19-Feb-19 07:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
See the 56 US military and CIA interventions of South and Central america


[19-Feb-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OysZ_4lp0

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IIHS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OysZ_4lp0
2015 Nissan Tsuru vs. 2016 Nissan Versa
A car-to-car test between a 2015 Nissan Tsuru, the least expensive sedan sold by Nissan in Mexico, and a 2016 Nissan Versa, the least expensive sedan sold by...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/85OysZ_4lp0/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Feb-19 07:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
it doesn't damage GDP


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
"A car-to-car test between a 2015 Nissan Tsuru, the least expensive sedan sold by Nissan in Mexico, and a 2016 Nissan Versa, the least expensive sedan sold by Nissan in the United States."


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh jerrrbs isn't an argument if products are cheaper due to imperialism so poorer people can afford to get paid less to eat bananas n veggies


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wages haven't meaningfully risen since the 90s


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
If not the 80s


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The CIA coups in Central America were, I believe, also part of an effort of communist containment


[19-Feb-19 07:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
If you actually consider inflation


[19-Feb-19 07:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's the excuse they made but there was largely no proveable connection to the USSR


[19-Feb-19 07:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
With Cuba, sure, but others, not so much


[19-Feb-19 07:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Commies bad is just dumb red scare other than of course their cold war amgery at USSR, literally who commies were only a threat because they were a threat to profits and nationalised land owned by American companies


[19-Feb-19 07:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Again, largely social democratic policies


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wouldn't consider giving land to starving people when American companies own most fertile land all that radical


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but GDP does get hurt by making products overseas, if I recall correctly


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
what's sad is that what is considered "communist" now (AOC) would've been moderate left back during the height of the red scare


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
and not communist at all


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Keep in mind these were capitalist shitholes, worse than any vuvuzueala memes before any revolutions generally


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know that you said that a while back


[19-Feb-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
we had presidents lefter than her back in the 50's


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But doesn't GDP only count the products made *in US soil*?


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
The Overton window is fucking broken


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
no, if the company is based in the US


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I see


[19-Feb-19 07:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Sold by American companies that own international soil totally counts.


[19-Feb-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
most cars sold in the US are made at multiple sites around the world and then assembled in the US


[19-Feb-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
though due to the trade war, a lot of that got shifted around to avoid the new tariffs


[19-Feb-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally how easy it is to avoid tariffs, tariffs only hurt small companies


[19-Feb-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
big companies with the resources to deal with things are the ones who can shift things around to avoid them


[19-Feb-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
back before the market was so obscenely huge, that wasn't possible for anyone


[19-Feb-19 07:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's honestly a little ironic given what tariffs are supposed to do in the first place


[19-Feb-19 07:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's actually hurt US farmers a lot afaik lol


[19-Feb-19 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
Exports to China are huge for food


[19-Feb-19 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
As with raw materials for making all that cheap shit


[19-Feb-19 07:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Aren't tariffs ostensibly supposed to "help the little guys out" as a form of industrial protectionism


[19-Feb-19 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because of imperialism and globalisation it doesn't really work that way any more because larger corporations have an advantage through cheap imported materials from pretty much anywhere they like.

The little guys aren't good guys btw, they are far more likely to underpay employees illegally low wages


[19-Feb-19 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Small businesses aren't magically exempt from the faults of larger ones


[19-Feb-19 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
In fact, because they struggle more they're generally worse.


[19-Feb-19 07:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Welp, it's official, tariffs are now fucking useless


[19-Feb-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the president issued an executive order to subsidize farmers in the US


[19-Feb-19 07:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
But yeah, big corporations get better deals


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Also that order apparently did fuck all


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
and iirc it's not keeping up


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Tiny sum


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
so farmers in the US are very slowly sinking


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
But so long as the money is flowing in the right direction eh?


[19-Feb-19 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
All that matters is growth at any cost


[19-Feb-19 07:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Doesn't matter who suffers so long as the GDP increases and cops can control it


[19-Feb-19 07:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Raegenism did a big number on us all, even Australia adopted some of it


[19-Feb-19 07:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
And Americans love to call anyone with sense 'stupid' and 'crazy' apparently


[19-Feb-19 07:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rich used to be taxed properly and middle class was huge in the US


[19-Feb-19 07:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
AOC's deal is mild in comparison to what you used to have


[19-Feb-19 07:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
She's really not radical at all, only a bit more than Bernie and 60 years ago her positions would be fairly average, maybe considered slightly left


[19-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tKtzSB2.png

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Great Prosperity vs Great Regression
https://i.imgur.com/tKtzSB2.png


[19-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
check this out


[19-Feb-19 07:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's pretty damn depressing


[19-Feb-19 07:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Neoliberalism will turn your remains into paperclips it could sell if it could get away with it


[19-Feb-19 07:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
And let's not even forget increasing retiring ages


[19-Feb-19 07:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
What? Average life expectancy going up?


[19-Feb-19 07:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Better make you work longer good prole


[19-Feb-19 07:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wouldn't want you to starve, would you?


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
every president since carter has been neoliberal


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
including carter


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
guess when the problems started


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
From what everything seems to say it hit very hard during Raegan


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
And cold war was an excuse to purge the left out of politics almost completely


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
carter took office in 1977


[19-Feb-19 07:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What does "neoliberal" mean?


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
The left pretty much doesn't exist anymore even in Australia


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
the US started going down the shitter in 1980


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not too initiated in economics


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
As anyone with actual power


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberals are basically Liberals (not liberal vs conservative liberal)


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
but on steroids


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mS1SgI73k

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donoteat01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mS1SgI73k
Cities Skylines | Franklin Episode 7: Liberalism
Not much urbanism in this episode, but a lot of political economy which will illuminate some of the decisions and policies which will come later in the serie...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/97mS1SgI73k/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
this video breaks them down pretty well


[19-Feb-19 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
As stated, AOC style shit wasn't far from the norm during the original new deal


[19-Feb-19 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Nice reforms that actually helped people weren't uncommon given the great depression happened and people were pretty pissed


[19-Feb-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
but basically, Liberalism's whole schtick was "enlightened self-interest" or something, saying that doing something for other people's sake is inherently wrong, and that you should do everything for your own sake, which will indirectly help your neighbors


[19-Feb-19 07:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[19-Feb-19 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
So it made sense to appease the people with socialist inspired reforms, so social democracy


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is that combined with "muh free market" and maximizing profits


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The "1860s" definition of liberalism


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Free market and such


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Social democracy is basically liberalism with a happy face that kinda gives a shit about you


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically Ayn Rand on economics


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
gov't only exists to make sure you can do whatever you want as a corrupt businessman


[19-Feb-19 07:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Basically, neoliberalism is the irl application of randian shit


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
social democracy is basically the best you can possibly do within the framework of capitalism


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regulations against building bridges out of mud are cancer, attempts to notice you dumping pig's blood in the rivers are SPYING, etc.


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
you need socialism to go beyond that


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
And ancap's shit is basically corporate feudalism if it keeps getting worse lol


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
The 'an' part is contradicted by the 'cap' part


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Perhaps they're distinct, but liberalism sounds a lot like libertarianism


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism as it is right now is basically feudalism


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Oh don't you worry, it can get worse


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
libertarianism is something else


[19-Feb-19 08:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At least in terms of government involvement


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just landlords and businesses are sorta nobility that benefit each other


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
true libertarianism is about personal freedom to do whatever you want within reason


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Landlord charges you more than half of income so you have to work


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
but you have some crazy super conservative libertarianisim in the US


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Porky businessman is more than happy to profit off of you since you need to pay rent and food


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
the US libertarian party is ultra far right


[19-Feb-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
and I don't think it can even be considered libertarian


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Dual-nobility feudalism, perhaps not far from


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
because it advocates freedom for some


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Landlords are parasitical feudal lords


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
which is inheritly authoritarian


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Especially in an age that most of us would probably die before affording a house


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[19-Feb-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
But people with parents that have homes can be class traitors and rent em out


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
libertarianism is more about the social side of politics than the economic though


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or better yet, airbnbing em, which actually raises local rent


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/7/17/1314751/-13-Tenets-of-the-Leftist-Libertarian

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13 Tenets of the Leftist Libertarian
This was actually posted as a comment to the rather well-written and immediately Recc'd "The Coming Democratic Schism" (Thomas Edsall's NYT Must Read Essay) .  However, after reading it over, I was ...
https://assets.dailykos.com/assets/fb_default-5621cb24390e49445744c08e1c8fa710.png


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Everything influences everything


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah, right libertarians totally contradict the original meanings of libertarianism


[19-Feb-19 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's why many of us call them lolberts


[19-Feb-19 08:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Libertarianism was originally a term for basically commies that want you to have more freedom n shit


[19-Feb-19 08:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Freedom to not work or die and other nice stuff


[19-Feb-19 08:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How the fuck did libertarianism diverge so hard


[19-Feb-19 08:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the terminology was repurposed


[19-Feb-19 08:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
The USSR gave Ayn Rand an education lmao


[19-Feb-19 08:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Also Mises brainlets


[19-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV8rJsPW54w

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Stephan Kinsella
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV8rJsPW54w
KOL004 | Interview with Walter Block on Voluntary Slavery
Original podcast and additional notes available at http://www.stephankinsella.com/kinsella-on-liberty-podcast/ My longtime friend Walter Block was recently i...
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[19-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking 
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1097652491926130688
https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/1097574608692264961

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EmergenHat (@Popehat)
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1097652491926130688
I've been doing federal criminal law for 24 years and I've never seen anything like this.  This is not normal.
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Jon Swaine (@jonswaine)
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Roger Stone now directly attacking the federal judge presiding over his case and posting a pic of her head beside crosshairs
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[19-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
roger stone posted an image of the judge presiding over his case with a crosshairs in the background


[19-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazing


[19-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/BttdBLB.jpg

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[19-Feb-19 01:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/676923000/bernie-sanders-enters-2020-presidential-campaign-no-longer-an-underdog

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Bernie Sanders Enters 2020 Presidential Campaign, No Longer An Und...
The Vermont independent became an ideological leader in the Democratic Party after his 2016 campaign against Hillary Clinton. He faces a far more crowded and liberal field this time.
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[19-Feb-19 04:49 PM] Yuri#4154
I don't live in the US, but I hope he wins in 2020


[19-Feb-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
he probably won't


[19-Feb-19 04:53 PM] Honahue#0656
I think it's going to go like 2016 again, we'll end up with some neoliberal winning the primary and they won't be able to to motivate enough voters to Pokemon go to the polls and Trump 2020


[19-Feb-19 06:39 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm voting Bern


[19-Feb-19 07:37 PM] illumnious#7938
All we need is Hillary Clinton and then the shows starts


[19-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
_No_


[19-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
If she runs again I'm not voting


[19-Feb-19 07:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
Dem field right now is fun but not popcorn-worthy since there's not really any bad blood


[19-Feb-19 07:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
The candidates have mostly shifted to the left since last election so they're mostly in agreement, and there's not much controversy at this point


[19-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Some candidates are just faker than others


[19-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Bernie fits with me cuz he's more center left


[19-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
And he's honest


[19-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
For the most part


[19-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah Bernie seems pretty honest to me


[19-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't want a neolib like Hilary


[19-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Mikey#7286
She's just awful


[19-Feb-19 07:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
I don't have opinions on many of the candidates at this point, there's not much to distinguish them all


[19-Feb-19 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://psmag.com/news/state-bills-could-prevent-teachers-from-advocating-for-climate-change

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States Are Introducing Bills That Could Prevent Teachers From Advo...
Several states have recently introduced bills that could interfere with the teaching of scientifically founded theories on climate change in public school science curricula.
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[19-Feb-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[19-Feb-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Teaching kids facts is bad I guess


[19-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/430611-trump-wanted-top-ally-in-charge-of-cohen-probe-report

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Trump wanted top ally in charge of Cohen probe: report
President Trump reportedly asked former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker late last year whether the U.S.
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[19-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No obstruction


[19-Feb-19 09:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US is going to ask for 4 more years of Trump.


[19-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695954246/trump-officials-tried-to-rush-nuclear-technology-to-saudis-house-panel-finds

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Trump Officials Tried To Rush Nuclear Technology To Saudis, House ...
Whistleblowers told the Oversight committee that efforts by some national security officials to try to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to the Saudi government potentially violated the law.
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[19-Feb-19 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Feb-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
>The Atomic Energy Act requires that Congress approve any transfer of nuclear technology to a foreign country. The committee's report states that a senior director at the National Security Council (NSC), Derek Harvey, "reportedly ignored ... warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made."


[19-Feb-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

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Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization...
The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.
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[19-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
... he realizes that the same thing happens in saudi arabia, right?


[19-Feb-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it lists several countries


[19-Feb-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event.


[19-Feb-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I notice it also doesnt name trump personally so i cant entirely tells if this is his decision or jsut soemthing his administration is doing on their own


[19-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
they wouldn't be able to go ahead on it without his permission


[19-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
though I highly doubt they came up with it on their own


[19-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
they probably had to speak to him in terms of poll numbers


[19-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
in order to convince him to give the go-ahead


[19-Feb-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yet by using gay rights as a cudgel against Iran, the Trump administration risks exposing close U.S. allies who are also vulnerable on the issue and creating a new tension point with the one region where Trump has managed to strengthen U.S. ties: the Arab world.

In Saudi Arabia, whose monarchy Trump has staunchly defended in the face of human rights allegations, homosexuality can be punishable by death, according to a 2017 worldwide report from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). The report identified 72 nations that still criminalize homosexuality, including eight where it’s punishable by death.


[19-Feb-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That list includes the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan and Afghanistan — all U.S. allies — although those countries aren’t known to have implemented the death penalty for same-sex acts. In Egypt, whose leader Trump has effusively praised, homosexual relations aren’t technically illegal but other morality laws are used aggressively to target LGBT people.


[19-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, conservatives in the US love to hate on iran, but saudi arabia has all the same social problems on crack


[19-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, I get the feeling the conservatives in the US are ok with saudi arabia specifically because they're so much more conservative than iran


[19-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's the same reason why the alt-right basically fetishizes japan


[19-Feb-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
because japan is a homogenous country with one ethnicity being in absolute control at the expense of all the minority ethnicities


[19-Feb-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-says-stock-market-would-be-down-10000-points-by-now-had-the-opposition-won-the-election-2019-02-19

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Trump says ‘stock market would be down 10,000 points by now’ h...
President Donald Trump on Tuesday implied that the stock market would effectively have crashed had he lost the 2016 race for the White House.
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[19-Feb-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
he says the stock market would've crashed by now if it hadn't been him in office


[19-Feb-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
when it's him who caused it to start going down with his trade war to begin with


[19-Feb-19 10:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Aka "Trump being a windbag again"


[19-Feb-19 10:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
All his actions consistently mess with the stock market


[19-Feb-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I won but just to make myself look good i'll tell youw hat woudl have happened if i lost!"


[19-Feb-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest i;m not sure what woudl have happened if hillary won, but 2016 was a massive dumpster fire with no actual good candidates


[19-Feb-19 10:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Can the media just NOT focus on Trump for once


[19-Feb-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after theprimaries anyway


[19-Feb-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well no, he;s ratings gold


[19-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he were an actual competent president he wouldnt get nearly as much attention


[19-Feb-19 10:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
People aren't tired of his bullshit yet?


[19-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh thye are


[19-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it;s also liek daytime trash tv


[19-Feb-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you may be sick to death of it but you still tune in out of morbid curiosity


[19-Feb-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
more like his entire strategy for life is to pile up so much bullshit that everyone's overwhelmed trying to parse it all


[19-Feb-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[19-Feb-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s trying throw so many logs ontot he fire that his trees turn invisible


[19-Feb-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump was a reality tv show star before he was a politician so he's applying the oen skill he aquired from the apprentice in his political career


[19-Feb-19 10:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At this point I think the best option is to just get like 10 quotes from him in one article, refute/lambast them all in like a paragraph (that's often all you really need) and move the fuck on until 10 more quotes spring up


[19-Feb-19 10:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trying to devote one piece of bullshit to one article clearly isn't working


[19-Feb-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of articles like that for his more minor stuff


[19-Feb-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but evne if he doesnt do anything his name still brings in a lot of click bait as well


[19-Feb-19 10:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ugh damn ratings


[19-Feb-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ratings are the issue with a lot of media outlets now


[19-Feb-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not to say they dont report on other things but they put all the ratings worthy stuff up front


[19-Feb-19 10:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There was a time when all media outlets were required to be unbiased on major issues


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep that was a real law


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't remember the specifics of the act


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne it got reppealed


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But iirc Reagan abolished it???


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely because it interfered with propaganda spreading


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Can we have that law back please lol


[19-Feb-19 10:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not sure if there's a single major objective media outlet anymore


[19-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope most major ones sprang off a 24 hour news channel that loops news stories once an hour with different hosts


[19-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and insufferable circle jerk interviews


[19-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for every story


[19-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
it required all media/talk shows/etc to present both sides


[19-Feb-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[19-Feb-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
one of the reasons why talkshow host personalities like rush limbaugh and sean hannity sprung up in the 80's is because they removed that law


[19-Feb-19 10:26 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What happened to objective interpretations of statistics


[19-Feb-19 10:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Numbers are as biased as you can get b/c they can be interpreted with just about any spin


[19-Feb-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
objective interpretations get in the way of political shenanigans


[19-Feb-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and as such much be torn appart almost religiously


[19-Feb-19 10:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Figures :/


[19-Feb-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like everything i say should coem out of a sock puppet


[19-Feb-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt help that a lot of news stations have a history of using rating breaking stories to cover up goings ons in congress and washsington


[19-Feb-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the net neutrality repeal last year


[19-Feb-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly because they're owned by a lot of cable providers that also happen to be ISPs


[19-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"[Trump] asked whether Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney for the Southern District of New York and a Trump ally, could be put in charge of the widening investigation, according to several American officials with direct knowledge of the call."


[19-Feb-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So actual obstruction, k


[19-Feb-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/430585-klobuchar-i-am-not-for-free-four-year-college-for-all

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Klobuchar: 'I am not for free four-year college for all'
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), a 2020 Democratic hopeful, on Monday dismissed the idea of free college for all at a CNN town hall where the senator faced questions about her policy proposals.
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[19-Feb-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
another neoliberal


[19-Feb-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
>she wants to make college more affordable by creating easier ways to refinance loans and make community college free


[19-Feb-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
the loan system is what all neoliberals strive for


[19-Feb-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
the idea of everyone being endebted to them makes them gush


[19-Feb-19 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Government shutdown and no pay? Just take loans!"


[19-Feb-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
plus free community college only is weak as fuck


[19-Feb-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
the whole "but muh trade schools" argument is dumb too


[19-Feb-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
make them free too


[20-Feb-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Feb-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Feb-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/19/george-mendonsa-death-kissing-sailor-statue-painted-with-metoo-sarasota/2916338002/

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'Kissing sailor' from an iconic photo died. Now a statue of it has...
The statue is a replica of a photograph taken of a sailor grabbing and kissing a woman in Times Square on V-J Day on Aug. 14, 1945.
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[20-Feb-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
have I mentioned how cancerous facebook comments are


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A literal monument to a sexual assault.


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazing.


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, not sure if you saw this yesterday or not https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/18/18229336/pledge-of-allegiance-arrest-florida-school

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A Florida boy was arrested after refusing to recite the Pledge of ...
The 11-year-old’s arrest is an example of the school-to-prison pipeline in action.
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[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, he was a winner, so it's not a participation trophy


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike all those confederate monuments.


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
11 year old was arrested for refusing to sing the pledge of allegiance


[20-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Crow I wonder how much taxpayer money has been wasted since the 40s


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Billions.


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arresting kids.


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not "wasted"


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
black kid too


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's school-to-prison


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie When is the Clarence Thomas Diet Coke statute coming


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the Brett Kavanaugh boofing statute


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you make a statue boof?


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Little air pipes?


[20-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
he was arrested because the substitute teacher "didn't know" that the school didn't require students to stand


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas recently said that he thinks _Sullivan_ was decided incorrectly


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the school


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
so he sent him to the "resource officer"


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No like


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a right


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I know that


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The resources are kids


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will be cultivated into slave labor


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the substitute teacher doesn't understand that the constitution applies to minors as well


[20-Feb-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why the anti-slavery amendment allows for slaves in prison


[20-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/missouri-s-high-court-tosses-case-alleging-abortion-law-violated/article_ae0e57c3-305e-51e6-b6cd-28699d41fada.html

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Missouri's high court tosses case alleging abortion law violated S...
The woman, identified as Mary Doe in court documents, is a member of the Satanic Temple, which describes itself as “an association of politically aware Satanists, secularists, and advocates for
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[20-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically


[20-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The state tells you that you're a murderer and makes you wait three days


[20-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it says that you can choose not to be told you're a murdererer kinda!


[20-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She should've focused on the waiting period


[20-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that can't be waived.


[20-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True.


[20-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, no one gives a shit about Trump obstructing justice with the Cohen probe


[20-Feb-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will defend him right up until they look at the numbers showing reelection would require the Democrats to literally die in a fire.


[20-Feb-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He clearly obstructed justice, tho


[20-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not care


[20-Feb-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
until it hurts them in polls


[20-Feb-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Related: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-tax-refund-2019-americans-shocked-by-impact-of-new-tax-law/

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Americans shocked by impact of new tax law: "My jaw hit the floor"
The first tax filing season under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act is confusing and, in some cases, expensive for taxpayers
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[20-Feb-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
that will hurt them in polls


[20-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when the suburbs already stopped voting for you, but you already made a change so that soon they will lose thousands of dollars a year


[20-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
>and you hailed it as your biggest accomplishment


[20-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
HMMMM


[20-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gee guys, I totally think Trump has a chance. I mean, what even is massive disapproval?


[20-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbs used to be solid red


[20-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wine moms changed


[20-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So did their husbands and adult children


[20-Feb-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
you can sell anything you want to people until their taxes go up


[20-Feb-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the end of the republican strangehold in the polls, assuming they don't hack the elections


[20-Feb-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
trump's already lobotomizing the task forces created specifically to start combating russia interference


[20-Feb-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-government-to-cancel-funds-for-california-high-speed-rail-11550618638

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Federal Government to Cancel Funds for California High-Speed Rail
The Trump administration will halt $928 million in aid and says it is considering legal action to recover federal money already spent. California Gov. Gavin Newsom called it “clear political retribution” over the state’s fight against the border wall.
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[20-Feb-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that's illegal


[20-Feb-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He will pathetically flail to make it legal.


[20-Feb-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt care about legality


[20-Feb-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason he hasnt been dragged to court at this point is a horde of brown noses


[20-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
california basically keeps like half the republican states afloat alone


[20-Feb-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
because otherwise they'd fall into rioting and lawlessness


[20-Feb-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will likely try to fidn ways to try and punish every state suing him over the national emergency


[20-Feb-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-high-speed-rail-20190219-story.html readable non sub source

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Trump administration to cancel $929 million in California high-spe...
Trump administration vows to cancel $929 million in California high speed rail funding
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[20-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
California could legitimately do Calexit, though it would be stupid of them to do so.


[20-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh there probably should be more senators or something if your state is over a certain pop


[20-Feb-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
like, NY/TX/CA should probably all have more than two


[20-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just combine a few southern states


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should've been done during Reconstruction


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
just go "you two are one state now" to diminish their future power.


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That plan to destroy Southern pride forever


[20-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
would have saved so much shit


[20-Feb-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
States that have no logical connection to each other in terms of areas/pops and named after Union generals


[20-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47299907

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IS teenager to lose UK citizenship
Shamima Begum, who joined the Islamic State group in Syria in 2015, had said she wanted to return home.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p0717t61.jpg


[20-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Under the 1981 British Nationality Act, a person can be deprived of their citizenship if the home secretary is satisfied it would be "conducive to the public good" and they would not become stateless as a result."


[20-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
w t f


[20-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is part of the trouble with ending terrorism


[20-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment people decide they don't want to be a terrorist


[20-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you go and say they hav no rights and might as well blow themselves up


[20-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems more like a problem with no written constitution (in practice)


[20-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
so what the fukk do you think they are gonna do?


[20-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not gonna just nod and be homeless in Jordan.


[20-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
There hav to be ways to giv people some kind of clemency and not be actively seeking pointless retribution against an organization that no longer exists.


[20-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, then there's the Iraq approach to IS citizens: execute them


[20-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you moved to IS territory? Enjoy the noose! Oh, and you had a kid? Well, technically we can't hang him too, so he can enjoy being a fukking orphan who only knows the state as "those people who killed mom for no reason"!


[20-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people wonder why the Middle East is constantly on fire


[20-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human rights just get abandoned the moment bullets start flying, intentionally, by the west even, and then it just leads to conditions that breed more violence.


[20-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But remember


[20-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
dead terrorists get people votes


[20-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
so we need to create more live terrorists


[20-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
to kill


[20-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise, our politicians would lose power.


[20-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the US could do the same thing, Its.


[20-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we're a little more hesitant to strip rights. Just a little.


[20-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK thinks human rights are privileges in their entirety.


[20-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US will hit a point within a few decades where the president goes "L'etat, c'est moi" and any hands are tied


[20-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but why speak a dead language when he can say "I am the Senate"?


[20-Feb-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Nanomachines, son"


[20-Feb-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a few decades the president will be a tiny child named *borence von tinkerdon* and it will be america's second coming


[20-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be nice to become a mass murderer and then claim oopsies when it goes sideways


[20-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody in practice does that, the bulk of people under any given terrorist organization will hav few kills, or 0, especially if they're a wife in a strict islamic society


[20-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beating them up for being stupid while they were young doesn't help anyone.


[20-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in this case "young" is "15-19"


[20-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"stupid" is a very cute term for what she signed up for


[20-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But ofc, women are all innocent and incapable of acting on their own volition


[20-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
For all I care, she could've signed up to be Pol Pot, retribution over it's just petty.


[20-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as with the idea of executing or inhumanely-imprisoning Anders Behring Brevik or however you spell it


[20-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just shoving him in a little dorm somewhere where he can watch TV and not kill anyone is a far better option that's way less petty.


[20-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's expensive


[20-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stamping "not welcome" and burning her passport is free


[20-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That just offloads the problem elsewhere


[20-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's best to hav her in a more modern country that can assimilate her and diminish her extreme viewpoints she left it over.


[20-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to putting her in Bangledesh or something where she might keep some of her views and contribute to problems down the road.


[20-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OK, go for the 35 cents option and put a bullet in her


[20-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's completely ignoring the costs of raising her child without a mother


[20-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, actually, she's not given birth yet


[20-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are thousands of people out there adopting


[20-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catholics will be pretty pissed about that one.


[20-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but the resources to raise someone to a point where they can raise kids aren't free


[20-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
extra children to adopt puts a real strain on things


[20-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting a bullet in her is like taking a sledgehammer to an expensive piece of equipment.


[20-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Here's how this will invariably go; she'll come back, live for free the rest of her life in better conditions than anyone else here, most likely get a book or TV movie deal, end up on the cover of some important magazine


[20-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[20-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a poor lesson for society


[20-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can be a feel-good story about righting your life after a huge mistake on par with little else.


[20-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That could inspire girls to take more control of their lives and not go blindly with their husbands into misery.


[20-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Want to kill everyone you know? Sign up to be a terrorist, then 'repent' when things get hard!"


[20-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which could prevent future terrorists.


[20-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to take the lesson from it that what she did was a good idea


[20-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it clearly put her thru a lot of stress for no benefit.


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also shows futility in trying to make a caliphate in modern circumstances.


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Won't seem like a lot of stress in a few years when she's giving a speech at the UN then going back home to her villa caseta


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like she's rich


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like a lot of people have forgotten the importance of a cultural victory


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the stress has already mostly happened


[20-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yet


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's not gonna suddenly get a bunch of stuff from this.


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She won't work a day in her life


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
china's making huge cultural gains


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
and no one's opposing them on that front anymore


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
you don't win a culture victory by being isolationist


[20-Feb-19 04:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You guys not following it? She has already had the child and her citizen ship has been revoked. she is currently stateless.


[20-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47299907

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IS teenager to lose UK citizenship
Shamima Begum, who joined the Islamic State group in Syria in 2015, had said she wanted to return home.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p0717t61.jpg


[20-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
the article is from today


[20-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, she had given birth.


[20-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, statelessness is not okay under the UK's own law


[20-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not supposed to strip citizenship unless they hav another to fall bakk on


[20-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good thing she joined the Islamic State, then


[20-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny how hard IS won the culture war


[20-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
if they weren't causing literal hell on earth, they might still be alive today


[20-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
none of the western countries are opposing the cultural gains their enemies are making


[20-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
a cultural win for the west would be to accept her back


[20-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
since she didn't do anything illegal


[20-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd cost votes and money needed to fund useless campaign promises


[20-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty sure "joining a terrorist organization" is illegal in most countries


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, trouble is, it was also kind of a country


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that mormons are classified as terrorists in russia


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And breaking the law doesn't normally get citizenship stripped.


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Mormons and ISIS are comparable" - Crow, 2019


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is pretty out-there for denying citizenship for people breaking the law by going to another country to do things outside UK jurisdiction.


[20-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's Jehovah's Witnesses, not Mormons


[20-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the argument is against using official designations


[20-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Countries can create all kinds of shitty laws


[20-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't mean they should be applied like this.


[20-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck dude


[20-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She either joined a terrorist organization or she defected


[20-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's not what I meant and you know it


[20-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[20-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's sarcasm, Crow


[20-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
it really didn't sound like it


[20-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a random "reminder" about what russia does has nothing to do with this topic


[20-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does tho


[20-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is more extreme about it, but the West will do the same thing when push comes to shove


[20-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, they're throwing her and her child out in the cold when they could win a lot of cultural points by spending the tiniest amount of effort necessary to win some modicum of trust


[20-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Creating official designations for political reasons rather than objective ones


[20-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's what countries do


[20-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to conflate ~the west~ thinking ISIS is bad because they behead medics and execute children on livestream with Russia banning a religious organization because they don't suck Putin's dick


[20-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
the terrorist part of ISIS was bad


[20-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
the civilian side of ISIS, especially the women, were practically enslaved


[20-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right, because women that decide to travel to the middle east are weak and brainwashed


[20-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
the civilians who joined ISIS willingly did so because there was no focus on counterculture


[20-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
almost no one who actually moved there from western countries wanted to stay


[20-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
other than the men who were power tripping and think women should be objects


[20-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We have to protect women because they're just agentless and under the whims of strong men


[20-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice white knight misogyny etc


[20-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
practically every woman in ISIS was enslaved, beaten, raped, tortured, and sold


[20-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
punishing people for stuff they never thought they'd experience is incredibly bad for your culture


[20-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most murderers never thought they'd experience getting caught


[20-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame on us


[20-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
you're conflating people a part of ISIS with the people who tortured and beheaded


[20-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's a logical fallacy


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, it isn't


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ISIS wasn't some humanitarian organization that went rogue


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's improper generalization


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was from the very start an organization that made itself known by murdering people


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
IS operated on a very large scale as an actual country, complete with coinage


[20-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was their whole thing


[20-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most countries are founded on murder, many start out as essentially terrorist organizations.


[20-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This isn't "Some girl in a village that was taken over"


[20-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The difference between a nation and a terrorist organization is not a clear divide.


[20-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, she may hav been a shitty person, but she didn't go around murdering civilians


[20-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is someone that with full access to modern information and fully aware of what ISIS does decided to leave her home and join a terrorist organization


[20-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And also, /as far as you know/ Nebbie


[20-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was like 16 and a woman in a Sharia law society


[20-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That does not involve the freedom to leave the home much, let alone murder civilians


[20-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because she's not exactly going to confess to keeping a Kurdish child slave and beating him until dead for not bringing her cold soda, is she?


[20-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of police referring to innocent people they shoot and kill as "people without outstanding warrants"


[20-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy to assume she did that.


[20-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right, because women are innocent souls


[20-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can't hold every single person that intentionally lived in IS territory responsible for the atrocities committed.


[20-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it is incredibly stupid to assume so


[20-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
such a thing is very unlikely in the circumstances.


[20-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If people sign up for venerating the blood god


[20-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You kinda have to assume they may have maybe been into blood god shit


[20-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
venerating the blood god isn't illegal, only killing in the name of the blood god


[20-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but that doesn't mean you should strip their citizenship, or that they ripped someone apart to make a blood trophy.


[20-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when they're of a form that the blood god society considers nothing more than a slave to another, never to even leave the home to partake in blood god rituals.


[20-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So put her in a padded room with rice and water for meals


[20-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's still petty


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
people need more than that for good health


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
physically on the food, and mentally on the padded room


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cover her head in electrodes to figure out what made her decide to do something so stupid and evil


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was 15 and her husband was crazy and she's Bangladeshi


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not that crazy she'd do that


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
a psychologist could probably do that without the electrodes


[20-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So she /does/ have a state to fall on


[20-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly


[20-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bangladesh is unlikely to take her, the argument would be based on Jus Sanguinis citizenship to my understanding


[20-Feb-19 04:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She was aiding and supporting people engaged in child exploitation, genocide, execution of civilians and prisoners of war. she was there for beheadings and says she has no regrets and clearly supports more of what happened. She is not innocent. You want to invite someone over for tea that wants to kill you for being the wrong religion? These supporters cannot be trusted to not repeat. They will move back into their old communities and try to rally support and convince people that they are oppressed under the laws of the land and they should rise up and support the cause. This is not the first time. This will be a repeat of history if she is allowed to return without being locked away at the least. If she comes back she will create more religious conservative nut jobs that will endanger peoples lives.


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in she'd hav to say "since my parents were citizens..." and hope they can't find a reason to say no


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even sending her to Bangladesh is a bad way to do this


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is better to smother her in western values so her and her child don't grow up extremist


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's closing to 5AM


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bangladesh isn't exactly the most western of places.


[20-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I need some manner of rest


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's not innocent


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter whether or not people are innocent.


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She knew what she was doing, and it went wrong, and now we'll all reward her


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should not be punished merely out of a desire for revenge or to make a statement about what they did.


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She'll live better than any of us ever will


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should be punished to prevent future problems.


[20-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gn


[20-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
She should be given house arrest in the UK and be fined.


[20-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony, it's so much easier to rally support for being oppressed when you are actually being oppressed lol


[20-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's why terrorism is becoming so widespread to begin with


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to spread terrorism, your best bet is to heavily punish anyone who so much as spoke to a terrorist


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Muslims are not oppressed in the UK and are equal to everyone else under the law. the middle east is a different story though.


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bomb their villages


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
also, you don't imprison people for being a part of the religion which advocates murder of other religions


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
throw people in prison for life with no rights on suspicion alone


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
you imprison people for murdering other religions


[20-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
execute the wives of people who came to support the terrorists


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
leaving their sons motherless


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
INDIVIDUALS are prosecuted


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how you create more terrorism.


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
for THEIR OWN crimes


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not how you stop it.


[20-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Collective punishment is against the Geneva Convention btw


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't punish someone for being part of a foreign army or a foreign state


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
and no, you can't use the excuse that ISIS didn't sign the geneva convention as a logical reason to violate the geneva convention


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, nobody cares about the actual rules that say people hav rights anymore.


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iraq will happily execute people who traveled into IS territory on purpose.


[20-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
geneva convention is gone 🦀


[20-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US btw has a law saying


[20-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
that if anyone from the US ever gets tried by the ICC


[20-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US has to invade Denmark to stop it


[20-Feb-19 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
>have culture where your husband has all of the power
>Punish her for following her husband's orders instead of showing compassion and thus helping change the shitty patriarchial culture
Hmm


[20-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US cannot financially support any state that is a member to the ICC unless it has a waiver, such as for NATO allies.


[20-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the US believes the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to it


[20-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it should invade Denmark if they try to pull anything with it


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
If God is going to fuck your shit up for disobeying your husband as far as you are aware, you're probably going to obey your husband because God is a greater power (spook) in your mind than the state


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people wonder why Russia is able to get away with human rights abuses...


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the best thing for the West to do


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
One spook is stronger than the other


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to show the West rules because it has compassion


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I am talking the individual case here. Not everyone that was caught up in ISIS. innocent people were under the rule of ISIS and did what they could so they would not be killed by ISIS. This girl went to join. The people in the areas that were taken over by ISIS did not chose them.


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
joining is not a crime


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather than show the West sukks because it just wants you fukked.


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
I repeat


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
joining


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Womz don't fight there afaik


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
is not


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
a crime


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
The extremists are misogynistic


[20-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
repeat after me


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Silly westerner thinking they'll allow the womz to fight


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
__***JOINING IS NOT A CRIME***__


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't punish someone for entering a foreign country to liv there when you aren't that country.


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't, like, punish people for illegal emigration.


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how it's supposed to work


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause then any state can say another is a terrorist state


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
only totalitarian states punish people for emigration


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then jail people for emigrating to it


[20-Feb-19 04:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Spooks spooking over spooks


[20-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't just take away citizenship once that other state is dead


[20-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
without any plan to keep them from being stateless


[20-Feb-19 04:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
People hate the west for bombing the shit out of things because it's more efficient than actually sending people to ask about and addressing problems among other things


[20-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
statelessness is ABHORRENT


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because we cry about every single life of our own is lost selfishly while we end far more


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the West doesn't care about making someone stateless, even if the law says it should.


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The politicians get support from dead terrorists


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
not from reforming people.


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta make sure another generation of terrorists appears


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you can shoot them all.


[20-Feb-19 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
People usually have their reasons to join, they don't just up and move their comfortable lives


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
They're usually alienated and treated like shit so those crazy ppl must be right


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
People are always going to have rational self interest reasons to join a group


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I think I see hypocrisy between subjects...


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
It'll make sense to them for a reason


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I didn't say joining was a crime. She joined a group and supported killing innocent people. Aiding and abetting.


[20-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So uh, Toon Kritic, 14-15-year-old


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's up in arms that he ERP'd with someone that young


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The implication being she had no choice


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
due to being that young


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🚔


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
girl the same age gets taken by her husband to IS


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and suddenly she has a choice?


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And intentionally became part of a terrorist organization?


[20-Feb-19 04:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rly Tinks U dink


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't hav it both ways


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
if 15-year-old girls are incapable of making informed decisions


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She went to to join him. He did not take her. he asked her to come.


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
then we shouldn't be saying they're shit for joining IS when their husband dragged them there


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Teenagers are easily indoctrinated brainlets and it's very easy to coerce them into ideology


[20-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
TK never even met the girl IRL


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's the other way


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Especially if you're their senior


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that a 15-year-old girl is totally able to choose for herself


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
then what the fukk is the whole TK thing about?


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot hav it both ways.


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Choose one.


[20-Feb-19 04:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hell, when you ask them to make decisions like that they'll more often enough be like 'uwu this person is treating me like an adult and this is great'


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hence 15 year Olds dating 22 year Olds being scarily common


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's also the uncomfortable middle ground


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
where 15-year-olds might be capable of making decisions, even consenting


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
They aren't able to make an informed decision and feel like an enlightened adult by being allowed to be 'responsible and make adult choices'


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that we shouldn't be as hard on them as adults


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but TSP threw that out the window


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which isn't consistent.


[20-Feb-19 04:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's the adults that provide the coersion


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
As a tennager you're sick of being treated like a kid


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Someone treats you like an adult and it's hard not to like them


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
To put it simply.


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly this 15-year-old clearly has enslaved Kurdish children


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like what


[20-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if she was 20, I'd doubt that.


[20-Feb-19 05:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/newser-us_to_lead_global_campaign_to_decriminalize_homose-rnewsernor

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US to Lead Global Campaign to Decriminalize Homosexuality - news -...
The Trump administration is launching a worldwide effort to decriminalize homosexuality. "Some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct," a US official involved in the campaign, which is kicking off Tuesday night with a strategy session in B...
https://da4pli3l5vc0d.cloudfront.net/8d/22/8d2280913f5a5e23ae11cdb6bcbb63938b6eb3e7/h=310,w=414,crop=top-20/?app=portal&sig=48add57365ba639191586c902db821d28579a8ebe483ba48027c34b5f221fa94


[20-Feb-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
linked above, I believe


[20-Feb-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
certainly didn't expect such a move from the administration


[20-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably a good way to distract people and alleviate a main likely criticism.


[20-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, if you steal from your enemies, they can't complain.


[20-Feb-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
meanwhile trans people still can't serve in the military


[20-Feb-19 05:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I assume it will be like how to UK hanndeled it. Half ass it and allow it to drag on over decades.


[20-Feb-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's LGBQ, right? etc.


[20-Feb-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
..."Some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,"


[20-Feb-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and the US is one of them.


[20-Feb-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like they didn't put much thought into it as they attempt to go after Iran.


[20-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Trump had promised he'd advocate for lgbt people back in 2016


[20-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
took him awhile but it appears he's gotten to this promise as well


[20-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He barred the Ts from military service


[20-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human rights aren't a piecemeal deal where you can take one step forward on one and another bakk on the other


[20-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing so is scummy


[20-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it depends. I think there's a pragmatic argument that could be made about barring T's from service due all the hormonal, psychological, and physical changes a person would be going through.


[20-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He banned anyone who has *ever* been T


[20-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
war is stressful enough as is


[20-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of if they are on hormones or not


[20-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and then pile on transitioning ontop of it


[20-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's called banning status


[20-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it would be rough on anyone


[20-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something being ruff for a while is no excuse for a lifetime ban.


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't know. there's still a lot of data that still needs to be gathered on that aspect. especially long term effects.


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but anyway.


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No there isn't


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
still he's following through on some things.


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are multiple militaries with trans people serving openly


[20-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the data has been gathered on how trans people serve


[20-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, the only way they serve worse is if you don't giv them their surgery


[20-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US conducted its *own* study too


[20-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then after that data was already there


[20-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump demanded *another* study


[20-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is blatantly obvious that they are trying to cover their asses while discriminating.


[20-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's not even that someone had hormones once


[20-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that they were trans once, ever


[20-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're barred from the military if they ever had gender dysphoria


[20-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
no other disorder is treated that way for military service


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the policy is likely to be changed once more when the next administration rolls in. anyway


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He is playing to majority of the group to get support. Many homosexuals are also trying to distance themselves from trans community due to all the dramas as well as the non binary nonsense that has been going on. Trans make up a small minority of the LGBT community. He does something for the majority of the community to win favour with the majority of that community. Clearly a political play


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
once the shitty pile of dung known as Trump is out


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone will actually do consistently sane policy


[20-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of bullshitting that they care about people's rights one moment in between violating those rights


[20-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, the US saying it's okay to be gay has no actual effect


[20-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most countries hav already decriminalized gay sex


[20-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US decriminalized it *18 years ago*


[20-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It matters a lot more what the US actually does policywise than what it tells other countries to do


[20-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I don't see it as him fulfilling his promise to the LGBT community to walk all over T rights while paying minor lipservice to LGB rights.


[20-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiBlacOYZ0

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiBlacOYZ0
Trump Announces MAJOR Fight For Gay Rights??
Join The Newsroom! - https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/939519407490174976/feed?fbclid=IwAR2aqdZIcj4xsJoFJd1larqdgubjAuUKyj9-oFJ2-edyaeyLfWeECWf14wM https:...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jWiBlacOYZ0/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
here's a interesting vid on the artical


[20-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
...why is there a vid on the article, and why is it 11 minutes long?


[20-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because he's expressing his thoughts on the article?


[20-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but why should I care about some talking head on YouTube?


[20-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In my experience, these people pad out shit with their own biases to try to rile up a particular political audience.


[20-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just very grating to listen to.


[20-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, there's no way Trump's getting Iran to stop hanging gay people


[20-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
tim pool is a indipendant journalist and a self-proclaim left-centrist


[20-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care what he thinks he is


[20-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
whatever dude


[20-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
watch or don't watch i'm just here to share things of interest


[20-Feb-19 06:20 AM] illumnious#7938
This time around, Bernie Sanders has a tougher sale: himself https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/time-around-bernie-sanders-has-tougher-pitch-himself-n973311

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This time around, Bernie Sanders has a tougher sale: himself
Analysis: A victim of his own success, the Vermont senator's policy ideas are no longer distinctive. To win, he'll have to get personal.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_08/2758566/190219-bernie-sanders-climbing-stairs-se-528p_b686ee828d0d88afe2de9199a9aa0bba.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Feb-19 06:22 AM] illumnious#7938
He’s not for sale


[20-Feb-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I've got the money and slavery is basically legal again


[20-Feb-19 06:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He has the popularity. It depends on if the party decides to fuck him over in favour of someone else again.


[20-Feb-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695926963/houston-police-to-cease-no-knock-warrants-chief-announces-after-deadly-raid

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Houston Police To Cease 'No Knock' Warrants, Chief Announces After...
"I'm very confident that we're going to have criminal charges on one or more police officers" from a raid that left two suspects dead, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/19/gettyimages-842618668_wide-31219377cb8ecb6d426ba69bec064991a3a3a201.jpg?s=1400


[20-Feb-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
"two suspects"


[20-Feb-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in the article proper, "two married suspects"


[20-Feb-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny way to say "people who were living in their house that then got shot to shit"


[20-Feb-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No drugs were found in said house.


[20-Feb-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The married couple were going on 60


[20-Feb-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Keep in mind, this change only happened because they were white


[20-Feb-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
If they were black the police chief would have given zero fucks


[20-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
>blakk/latinos struggle to find jobs, join police force


[20-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
>whites meanwhile are comfortably living at home, not used to police coming in


[20-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
>minority police come in and shoot white people


[20-Feb-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's how you get white nationalists to care about police brutality.


[20-Feb-19 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
>stop making gay illegal
>Also lick Saudi boots


[20-Feb-19 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wew


[20-Feb-19 08:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/547672415401017349/FB_IMG_1550645643761.jpg

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[20-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you think the neo-nazis would rejoice if we brought back zeppelin travel over airliners


[20-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I can see the difference


[20-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Last plane loss its bombs


[20-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Nazis gave 0 shits about zeppelins


[20-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone was into them at the time


[20-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it turned out hydrogen couldn't be done responsibly with the tech and it was so cheap to guzzle fuel with airplanes nobody wanted to bother messing with helium (which is expensive)


[20-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is hydrogen and helium get lost from the atmosphere


[20-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So helium is actually kinda rare and hydrogen has to be produced from what can be mined (or water)


[20-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But hydrogen's mass accessibility is because it's so ready to combust.


[20-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is kind of a core problem with materials.


[20-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah you could totally skim some off Jupiter...if it weren't for the crazy gravity


[20-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stars like to strip away light elements from planetary atmospheres


[20-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need high gravity or high distance to prevent it


[20-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if hydrogen and such is everywhere on creation you don't get a nice Earth-like planet


[20-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's expected that some exoplanets found had atmospheres comparable to Earth but then lost them all because of spending a while close in


[20-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, US helium sales are unsustainable last I heard.


[20-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making it so available in consumer balloons was a mistake IMO


[20-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much the only way we'll be able to keep up party balloons for over a century is by *mining the Moon*


[20-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
WE MUST COLONIES AND MINE MOON ASAP


[20-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or find other way to keep our balloons up


[20-Feb-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could make something strong that forms a vacuum inside


[20-Feb-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do it well enuff, and zeppelins become a thing again.


[20-Feb-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a bit of a challenge


[20-Feb-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hard to make some kind of vacuballoon for parties that's affordable.


[20-Feb-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Needs really light construction. REALLY light.


[20-Feb-19 11:08 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Paper baloons


[20-Feb-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Paper is nowhere near strong enuff.


[20-Feb-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, sea level vs vacuum is over the weight of an elephant per square meter


[20-Feb-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if your balloon's surface area is a square meter, which is...maybe a bit much, but not that much more than usual


[20-Feb-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
you literally need a material that could withstand an elephant standing on it while the edges are held out


[20-Feb-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some ideas on the structure needed to retain strength


[20-Feb-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The naive way of just a solid spherical shell would require something much stronger than diamond.


[20-Feb-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe in a century we'll hav some crazy balloons at parties. For now, hydrogen can work sorta kinda if you're not retarded.


[20-Feb-19 11:28 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yay,flying bombs,perfect to keep em at parties


[20-Feb-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eh, they don't really explode, but they sure do set fire to things.


[20-Feb-19 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
the concern is if you get it close to a candle or something


[20-Feb-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
the heat emission from a hydrogen flame is very strong


[20-Feb-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
you can feel the heat from a singe balloon being ignited a full 5 meters across a room


[20-Feb-19 03:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://i.imgur.com/QCKvG6u.png

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[20-Feb-19 03:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695954246/trump-officials-tried-to-rush-nuclear-technology-to-saudis-house-panel-finds

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Trump Officials Tried To Rush Nuclear Technology To Saudis, House ...
Whistleblowers told the Oversight committee that efforts by some national security officials to try to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to the Saudi government potentially violated the law.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/19/ap_19014294829017_wide-b1ab3b08a85c08237013606bc46dee306a922d8c.jpg?s=1400


[20-Feb-19 03:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf


[20-Feb-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/joe-biden-record/

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No Joe!
Joe Biden’s disastrous legislative legacy
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[20-Feb-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
> Biden later took pride in reminding audiences that “through the leadership of Senator Thurmond, and myself, and others,” Congress had passed a law mandating a five-year sentence, with no parole, for anyone caught with a piece of crack cocaine “no bigger than [a] quarter.”
>The ensuing 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, passed with enthusiastic administration pressure, would consign millions of black Americans to a life behind bars.
>Roe v. Wade “went too far,” he told an interviewer in 1974. “I don’t think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body.
>On race, at least, Biden affected to believe that Delawareans’ views might be closer to those of his old buddy Thurmond than those of the “Northeast liberal” he sometimes claimed to be. “You don’t know my state,” he told Fox as he geared up for his first attempt on the White House in 2006. “My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth-largest black population in the country. My state is anything [but] a Northeast liberal state.” Months later, in front of a largely Republican audience in South Carolina, he joked that the only reason Delaware had fought with the North in the Civil War was “because we couldn’t figure out how to get to the South. There were a couple of states in the way.”
>“I don’t think five hundred billionaires are the reason we’re in trouble. The folks at the top aren’t bad guys.”


[20-Feb-19 06:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Wot


[20-Feb-19 06:24 PM] Penguin 🐧 🚆#2738
EMTs really need to be paid more: http://money.com/money/5424851/the-pay-is-just-not-enough-emts-are-working-multiple-jobs-just-to-make-ends-meet/

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'The Pay Is Just Not Enough.' EMTs Are Working Multiple Jobs Just ...
And the complexities of the job are often misunderstood.
https://moneydotcomvip.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/181031-emt-workers-salary.jpg?quality=85


[20-Feb-19 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
>money.com/money


[20-Feb-19 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
we've got to have... Moneyyyy


[20-Feb-19 09:02 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/02/19/leaked-report-on-huawei-shows-cracks-in-five-eyes-alliance-say-security-experts.html

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https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/02/19/leaked-report-on-huawei-shows-cracks-in-five-eyes-alliance-say-security-experts.html
Leaked U.K. report on Huawei shows cracks in intelligence alliance...
The report suggests Britain will break rank with the alliance known as “Five Eyes” regarding 5G, finding possible Huawei security risks manageable. The report will likely not play into Canada’s decision to build a 5G network with Huawei.
https://images.thestar.com/lVXsxuQznMsXIv1fpfhMYbhHfmw=/1200x800/smart/filters:cb(1550674582145)/https:/www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/vancouver/2019/02/19/leaked-report-on-huawei-shows-cracks-in-five-eyes-alliance-say-security-experts/afp_1bu5zy.jpg


[20-Feb-19 09:03 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Know who controls you whoever you cannot criticize or go after.


[20-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[20-Feb-19 10:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/UZtWDco6TDw

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Zero Books
https://youtu.be/UZtWDco6TDw
Ben Shapiro Fans Censor Us! (Or Why We Should Nationalize Google)
Ben Burgis’ last video was reported for violating community standards, blocked from suggested videos, and put behind a warning screen. We hold that that ther...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UZtWDco6TDw/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Feb-19 10:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
I was gonna watch the last Ben Shapiro dissection vid Professor Burgis did, and I was wondering why I couldn't find it when I went to hunt it down


[21-Feb-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-report-could-be-delivered-congress-next-week-2019-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-report-could-be-delivered-congress-next-week-2019-2
Mueller's findings in the Russia probe could reportedly be deliver...
Attorney General William Barr has reportedly been weighing which of the special counsel Robert Mueller's findings to report to Congress.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5ab4732de082e52e008b459c-1920-960.jpg


[21-Feb-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what it means


[21-Feb-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47313172

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47313172
Actor 'suspected of false attack report'
US police say Empire star Jessie Smollett is suspected of filing a false police report about an attack.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1704A/production/_105728249_63f910d1-fe45-4666-a8d8-fb0e5f8d43bb.jpg


[21-Feb-19 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/FrankfurtGhoul/status/1098279520589750272

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𝔐𝔢𝔤𝔞𝔫 (@FrankfurtGhoul)
https://twitter.com/FrankfurtGhoul/status/1098279520589750272
Everyone on my tl that was a hardcore anarcho-communist like 2 days ago
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Twitter


[21-Feb-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't get why all the extreme left guys are so excited about AOC and bernie when we've had presidents lefter than both of them in the past (before the neoliberals took over)


[21-Feb-19 01:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
he is feeling the bern.


[21-Feb-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow >Implying dead or retired  guys can come back to life.


[21-Feb-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd like to have Earl Browder back, but he's dead.


[21-Feb-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
So there's literally nothing they can do but be a model


[21-Feb-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
I guess the only real good thing is that the overton window might move back towards the center


[21-Feb-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And we're dealing with the present moment and the future, not the past. The past doesn't do anything


[21-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
the most that can ever be hoped for in the US is social democracy unless there's another civil war


[21-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
also, fun fact: a bunch of people from california are moving to texas because housing was dirt cheap, and there's no income tax


[21-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
but they're also bringing all of those liberal voting tendencies with them


[21-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
and the cheap housing is drying up really fast


[21-Feb-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
so texas might become a purple state in the next decade or two


[21-Feb-19 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
>google and apply doesn't spy on you anyway


[21-Feb-19 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
>implying chinese data has any effect on you and NSA deals with google/apple don't


[21-Feb-19 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
WEW


[21-Feb-19 01:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, you can just unlock your bootloader and install lineage OS or some other open source android rom and be debotnetted but yall don't listen


[21-Feb-19 01:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
>five eyes don't want huawei to spy because it interferes with their spying


[21-Feb-19 01:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
the absolute state


[21-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coast-guard-lieutenant-dubbed-domestic-terrorist-had-hit-list-of-media-bigs-and-dem-lawmakers-prosecutors

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/coast-guard-lieutenant-dubbed-domestic-terrorist-had-hit-list-of-media-bigs-and-dem-lawmakers-prosecutors
Coast Guard lieutenant, dubbed 'domestic terrorist,' had hit list ...
A U.S. Coast Guard lieutenant arrested last week on weapons and drug charges is a white nationalist who apparently had a hit list of Democratic lawmakers and activists as well as prominent media personalities, federal prosecutors said Wednesday.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/02/Coastguard720.jpg


[21-Feb-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
@dissociativity good thing I did that eh


[21-Feb-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
google keeps sending me emails complaining about how my account is "less secure" because I disconnected my phone and removed play services


[21-Feb-19 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/lawyer-who-wrote-apples-insider-trading-policy-accused-of-insider-trading/

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/lawyer-who-wrote-apples-insider-trading-policy-accused-of-insider-trading/
Apple’s insider-trading policy enforcer accused of insider trading
Lawyer accused of avoiding $377,000 in losses by selling ahead of bad news.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/apple-logo-760x380.jpg


[21-Feb-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
who watches the watchers


[21-Feb-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the watchers watch themselves, it's not a very good policy though


[21-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/20/supreme-court-states-cant-impose-excessive-fees-fines-forfeitures/2919411002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/20/supreme-court-states-cant-impose-excessive-fees-fines-forfeitures/2919411002/
Supreme Court strikes blow against states that raise revenue by he...
The Supreme Court ruled that state and local governments cannot impose excessive court fees, fines and forfeitures as a means of raising money.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/02/19/USAT/1ef41525-49f5-410b-be4d-5681ab0b01c9-AP_Supreme_Court_Excessive_Fines.jpg?crop=1999,1118,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[21-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's capitalism, the watchers don't even watch.


[21-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
yay


[21-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing so could hurt the company.


[21-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
"The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Wednesday that states cannot impose excessive fees, fines and forfeitures as criminal penalties."


[21-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/politics/civil-asset-forfeiture-supreme-court.html

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By ADAM LIPTAK and SHAILA DEWAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/politics/civil-asset-forfeiture-supreme-court.html
Supreme Court Limits Police Powers to Seize Private Property
Civil forfeiture laws, a popular way to raise revenue, have been the subject of criticism across the political spectrum.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/21/us/politics/21dc-scotus-print/21dc-scotus-sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Good at least occasionally the government makes good decisions


[21-Feb-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The stupid thing is that this is a decision at all


[21-Feb-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's blatantly obviously intended in the constitution


[21-Feb-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even with an understanding it was unconstitutional, many local gov'ts hav continued to do it, even tho they routinely get swatted


[21-Feb-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's just so much incentive and no real oversight that they can't be stopped


[21-Feb-19 11:08 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising.html

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By THOMAS KAPLAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising.html
Bernie Sanders Raises $6 Million After Announcing Presidential Bid
The impressive early fund-raising haul by Mr. Sanders gives him bragging rights in a crowded field of Democratic presidential candidates.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/21/us/politics/21campfin/21campfin-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Feb-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel he deserves to win the nomination, given how hard he's been fighting


[21-Feb-19 11:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-66-whataboutism-the-medias-favorite-rhetorical-shield-against-criticism-of-us-policy

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Citations Needed Podcast
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-66-whataboutism-the-medias-favorite-rhetorical-shield-against-criticism-of-us-policy
Episode 66: Whataboutism - The Media's Favorite Rhetorical Shield ...
Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cu
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000491981739-y7bsfj-t500x500.jpg


[21-Feb-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finally some good news for once


[21-Feb-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47302817

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47302817
Cardinals urge end of 'homosexual agenda'
Two prominent cardinals call on bishops to end their silence over sexual abuse at the Church.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/18CF/production/_105715360_mediaitem105715306.jpg


[21-Feb-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Obviously it's the gays making us rape the kids!" - 2 cardinals


[21-Feb-19 06:24 PM] DevField#5162
I blame the devil.


[21-Feb-19 06:25 PM] DevField#5162
:twicrazy:


[21-Feb-19 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Churches and religion in 21 century is a joke


[21-Feb-19 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fat people urge end of fork agenda"


[21-Feb-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, there is a bit of science that completely shoots that idea in the head


[21-Feb-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
studies on pedos show they tend to differ on what sexes they prefer sexually between kids and adults


[21-Feb-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can be gay for kids and straight for adults etc.


[21-Feb-19 06:55 PM] Arvid#8335
Blaming le gays again huh


[21-Feb-19 06:57 PM] Arvid#8335
When you condemn homosexuals but also have a history of trying to cover up sexual abuse scandals against children


[21-Feb-19 08:56 PM] illumnious#7938
U.S. military surveillance planes to fly over Russia Thursday and Friday https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-military-surveillance-planes-flying-over-russia-thursday-friday-n973951

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-military-surveillance-planes-flying-over-russia-thursday-friday-n973951
U.S. military surveillance jets flying over Russia today, tomorrow
The U.S. is flying an unarmed observation plane, the OC-135B, equipped with cameras.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_08/2760561/190221-oc135b-observation-aircraft-cs-943a_be6a15bb16058603b5a7349007e91c72.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[21-Feb-19 08:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Republican candidate Mark Harris calls for new election in North Carolina disputed House race https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-candidate-mark-harris-calls-new-election-north-carolina-disputed-n974176

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-candidate-mark-harris-calls-new-election-north-carolina-disputed-n974176
Republican candidate Mark Harris calls for new election in North C...
Republican candidate Mark Harris calls for new election in North Carolina disputed race
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_08/2759891/190220-mark-harris-ew-545p_c9e4c83a2cbb967f62760476537f7876.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[21-Feb-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/y8ms0hY

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https://imgur.com/t/current_events/y8ms0hY
It’s not red tape, it’s protection from greed
https://i.imgur.com/MG9JV8zh.jpg


[21-Feb-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Set free our dreams of rat poison flavored pizza


[21-Feb-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make America Ill Again


[21-Feb-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-not-familiar-with-his-administrations-plan-for-global-decriminalization-of-homosexuality-225415901.html

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https://news.yahoo.com/trump-not-familiar-with-his-administrations-plan-for-global-decriminalization-of-homosexuality-225415901.html
Trump apparently not familiar with his administration's push for g...
The president expresses confusion when asked about one of his administration's own policies.


[21-Feb-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
President Trump reacted with surprise when asked Wednesday about reports that his administration was making a global push to decriminalize homosexuality.

In an Oval Office exchange with reporters, Trump was asked about the plan, which was first reported by NBC News on Tuesday.

“Mr. President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you going to do that? And why?”

“Say it?” Trump responded.

“Your push to decriminalize homosexuality around the world,” the reporter clarified.

“I don’t know which report you’re talking about,” Trump said. “We have many reports.”


[21-Feb-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol he didn't even know


[21-Feb-19 10:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/DannyDeVito/status/1098304288168718336

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Danny DeVito (@DannyDeVito)
https://twitter.com/DannyDeVito/status/1098304288168718336
Bernie 2020
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Likes
77127
Twitter


[21-Feb-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/regulation/431024-judge-imposes-full-gag-order-on-roger-stone

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https://thehill.com/regulation/431024-judge-imposes-full-gag-order-on-roger-stone
Judge imposes full gag order on Roger Stone
The federal judge presiding over Roger Stone’s criminal case banned him Thursday from saying anything publicly about his case or the special counsel’s investigation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/stoneroger_120618getty.jpg


[21-Feb-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how long it will take him to break it


[21-Feb-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for some more demonetization? https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/tech/youtube-removes-controversial-videos/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/tech/youtube-removes-controversial-videos/index.html
YouTube takes action as advertisers leave following concerns pedop...
YouTube said on Thursday it has taken aggressive action after a video creator accused the platform of aiding pedophiles in finding clips of young girls. The statement comes as major companies, including AT&T, Nestle and Epic Games, announced they are pausing advertising on Yo...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190221130906-youtube-child-exploitation-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[21-Feb-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically some guy noticed (again) that there were innocent vids of kids in "the weird part of YouTube" where they like do yoga poses or whatever, and pedos were getting off and commenting on it


[21-Feb-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I expected, YouTube's response isn't just to do some token banning of the commenters, but also to explode because UH OH ADS WERE ON VIDS PEDOS COMMENTED ON SHUT IT ALL DOWN


[21-Feb-19 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
wtf


[21-Feb-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely this will result in much more aggressive detection of content as ad-unfriendly


[21-Feb-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like if the vid has a child in it, ad-unfriendly


[21-Feb-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can't take the risk a pedo could be watching and the ad company gets wind of it.


[21-Feb-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol seeing people flip out "reee irrelevant guy ruining muh job"


[21-Feb-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[21-Feb-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
National brands have worked out advertising on the most explicit late night comedy routines you can imagine and have for decades


[21-Feb-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
they can find a solution


[21-Feb-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but, Its, *pedos*


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
What if pedos are seeing ads for nike before they fap to kids doing yoga poses?


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means we hav to protest nike


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These were videos of yoga poses and licking lolipops


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
What makes it different is pedos


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ad companies hear pedo and they explode


[21-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the guy was blaming ad companies for being on content pedos enjoyed


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, its


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
>kid does yoga pose


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
>someone says "whoa showing a lot of booty there OWO"


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
>ad for nike was played


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
>normie sees this


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
HURR BOYCOTT NIKE


[21-Feb-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
so


[21-Feb-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
this isn't gonna end well for content creators.


[21-Feb-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pedos are unstoppable! we must burn youtube to the ground to stop them from infecting our ads!


[21-Feb-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ad companies are getting insane


[21-Feb-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have no reason not to be insane when no one is willign to tewll them to shove it


[21-Feb-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one has drawn a line in the sand so they're just going to keep carrying that goal post further and further


[21-Feb-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today it's pedos, tomorrow it could be someone else


[21-Feb-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or something else


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's always Nazis


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
them too


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Communists


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racists


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trannies


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people...


[21-Feb-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
political posts in general not for a certian view


[21-Feb-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
See the problem here?


[21-Feb-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[21-Feb-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Youtube demonetizes any video with "trans" in the title btw


[21-Feb-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it's an ad-unfriendly term


[21-Feb-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
because chinese advertisers don't like trans


[21-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if you demonetize trans videos and anti-trans videos


[21-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you demonetize nazi videos, anarcho-cap videos...


[21-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically everything but specifically SJUW feminist or completely SFW Minecraft LPs


[21-Feb-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is going to be a damn collapse


[22-Feb-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the goal posts will keep being moved until youtube runs out fo videos to demonetise


[22-Feb-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if they keep settign up bots to do the work for them


[22-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, further thought


[22-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if YouTube doesn't demonetize vids of kids


[22-Feb-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the alternative is to hav algorithms take down pedo comments


[22-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, problem, algorithms don't understand context, so while they can be trained to recognize the majority of sexual comments, they hav huge false positives and can't tell apart comments about adults in videos from ones about kids in videos, or even whether the video has kids in it to begin with


[22-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But see, you can mitigate that problem if you don't care whether it's about kids or not


[22-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* if the video isn't age-restricted, no sexual comments allowed, period


[22-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you just eat the huge false positive rate with maybe a few Indians to review comments for undeletion.


[22-Feb-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Based on stereotypes I'm not so sure I'd outsource the review of sexual internet comments to India in particular


[22-Feb-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
designated


[22-Feb-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
bobs


[22-Feb-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/BumRDue.jpg

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[22-Feb-19 12:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
👍


[22-Feb-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Designated shitting lolis


[22-Feb-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[22-Feb-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom#Ancient_times

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Timeline of abolition of slavery and serfdom
The abolition of slavery occurred at different times in different countries. It frequently  occurred  sequentially in more than one stage – for example, as abolition of the trade in slaves in a specific country, and then as abolition of slavery throughout empires. Each step...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Biard_Abolition_de_l%27esclavage_1849.jpg/1200px-Biard_Abolition_de_l%27esclavage_1849.jpg


[22-Feb-19 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
k


[22-Feb-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/N1JBlcT.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/N1JBlcT.jpg


[22-Feb-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[22-Feb-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
must've been before the french revolution


[22-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/sZAmte7.jpg

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[22-Feb-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
has the senate voted on the green new deal yet?


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
lolrekt


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so, it starts in the House, doesn't it?


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What was the real argument for not giving women the vote when they paid taxes?


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
mcconnell said that he'd be glad to have a vote on it, most likely in order to humiliate cortez


[22-Feb-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was it just "reeeeeeee too gentile"


[22-Feb-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much just "Women belong in the kitchen" kinda stuff


[22-Feb-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the era of over compensation


[22-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Initially only landowners could vote, Its


[22-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
anyone could be taxed


[22-Feb-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[22-Feb-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea was head of household sir moneybags would decide for the entire family


[22-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way the dregs of society and those who didn't hav a real education weren't involved politically


[22-Feb-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
land owners, then soldiers, then i forget the next order


[22-Feb-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly voting came to nonlandowners and RIP extreme stratification


[22-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47325201

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Venezuela to close border with Brazil
President Maduro acts as opposition supporters defy attempts to stop them bringing in foreign aid.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/CC0A/production/_105743225_mediaitem105741352.jpg


[22-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
>Despite denying there is any humanitarian crisis, Mr Maduro announced this week that 300 tonnes of aid would be shipped to Venezuela from its ally Russia.


[22-Feb-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
>from its ally Russia


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
when the fuck did russia become an ally of venezuela?


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is russia Really an ally of anyone?


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Venezeula got oil while being an enemy of the US, I think


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has a really powerful diplomatic corps


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can outinfluence you on everything


[22-Feb-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is how Russia is still relevant while having a GDP lower than Canada's despite a population as high as the US'


[22-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is devoted to having the best negotiators, the best spies, the best intelligence analysts


[22-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
this greatly magnifies it on the world stage


[22-Feb-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It knows what America is planning to do *before America does*


[22-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But oh sure guys Russia's just some stupid putin meme that's not actually gonna be a problem for our interests etc. etc.


[22-Feb-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
scream the Russian-infiltrated conservatives


[22-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/21/how-china-tried-stop-my-freedom-speech-canada/


[22-Feb-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that china's huge as well


[22-Feb-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/business/china-xinjiang-uighur-dna-thermo-fisher.html

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China Uses DNA to Track Its People, With the Help of American Expe...
The Chinese authorities turned to a Massachusetts company and a prominent Yale researcher as they built an enormous system of surveillance and control.
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[22-Feb-19 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure nobody is surprised  http://fortune.com/2019/02/21/cannabis-risk-to-alcohol-industry/

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Cannabis May Pose a 'Long-Term Risk' to the Alcohol Industry
A new report says sales could suffer.
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[22-Feb-19 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Capitalism doesn't like competition.


[22-Feb-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Four Loko; but with weed instead of caffeine


[22-Feb-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, water is wet


[22-Feb-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
If you had the choice between booze and weed I don't know how you wouldn't pick weed


[22-Feb-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
It's such a nice high


[22-Feb-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Alcohol is brutal


[22-Feb-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends on the alcohol


[22-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If all you have tasted is piss beer and rotgut of course you won't like it


[22-Feb-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Straight vodka my man


[22-Feb-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine smoking skunk and thinking that's all weed


[22-Feb-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not talking so much about the taste


[22-Feb-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
But rather the high


[22-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I guess that's an advantage


[22-Feb-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you drink to get drunk that's a problem


[22-Feb-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
even when you don't get there, I still like weed more


[22-Feb-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing has ever made me feel quite as uncomfortable while not sober as alcohol has


[22-Feb-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
how do conservatives manage to convince themselves that leftists hate america


[22-Feb-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
when we've had presidents lefter than AOC and bernie


[22-Feb-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because to them, America is always under threat


[22-Feb-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
apparently they bring up the whole "white privilege" shaming thing


[22-Feb-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and was lukky to stay intact after that


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't even think we'll "destroy" it


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think we'll "change it"


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They worry for them is that America won't be their authoritarian anti-gay anti-blakk dream


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
that "white privilege" was invented by leftists in order to blame america for all the bad things in history


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, America isn't its economy, or its people


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an idea


[22-Feb-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
a white nation


[22-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
a white, Christian, straight nation


[22-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the idea is not true


[22-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
then to them, America is destroyed.


[22-Feb-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any criticism of the idea, or of its effects, is seen as a threat to it.


[22-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can argue it's bad to be a white, Christian, straight nation *successfully*, the idea is dead.


[22-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, criticism is an existential threat.


[22-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any time someone criticizes it, they must be cast out as just exaggerating and being crazy.


[22-Feb-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american dream is dead because it's to be a white upperclass family with a high paying job, a wife and only a wife, 2 children who adhere to pure one dimensional character lists, and thye go to church every sunday


[22-Feb-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh and a 2 story house


[22-Feb-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Owning a house is now like a fantasy for the middle class


[22-Feb-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a unicorn


[22-Feb-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Feb-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much less a one story 2 room house


[22-Feb-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even appartments are beyond our reach


[22-Feb-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stop at nothing until everyone has their own home


[22-Feb-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[22-Feb-19 01:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/0fTJdaUBcRI

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Remainers dress as unicorns in Brexit protest
Is Theresa May chasing a unicorn 🦄? These remainers dressed as the mythical creatures and voyaged to Brussels to protest against Brexit. Like what you see? P...
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[22-Feb-19 01:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
IS THIS OUR 1917 MOMENT?

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[22-Feb-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point if socialism gets me into an actual life i'll take it


[22-Feb-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
>full-blown socialism


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
>just wants money to not be wasted on false promises anymore


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
>just wants things to be affordable again


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
if this is "full blown socialism", sign me up


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if the middle/working class can afford it thne it;s socialism


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
this is what happens when you overuse a word


[22-Feb-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
it loses literally all meaning


[22-Feb-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truckers drive socialist trucks because thye can afford them


[22-Feb-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
trucker cooperative when


[22-Feb-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mothers buy socialist milk, while children eat socialist cookies


[22-Feb-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcdonalds sells socialist burgers ont heir $1 socialist menu


[22-Feb-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
>McDonalds


[22-Feb-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Under socialism


[22-Feb-19 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like appropriated and merged into everything as the McPeople's Cafe With Actual Fucking Food


[22-Feb-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
what about socialist mcdonalds with meat grown right in the kitchen


[22-Feb-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
I heard an argument recently that cooperatives aren't real socialism because not every company is forced to be a cooperative


[22-Feb-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
that every company would be forced to be a cooperative under socialism, and taking away the ability to choose is bad


[22-Feb-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if there are people who refuse to go to co op groceries or buy from worker owned companies because socialism.


[22-Feb-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
credit unions are cooperatives


[22-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
>A credit union is a member-owned financial cooperative, controlled by its members and operated on the principle of people helping people, providing its members credit at competitive rates as well as other financial services.


[22-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
>people helping people


[22-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
COMMUNIST ALERT


[22-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
COMMUNIST ALERT


[22-Feb-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
BETTER DEAD THAN RED


[22-Feb-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look at these people with their socialist libraries, they should be paying to rent books instead of checking them out for free!


[22-Feb-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
public libraries are one of the very few holdovers from the progressive era preceding the neoliberal era


[22-Feb-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
it was one of the things that the likes of carter and reagan couldn't defund without massive public outcry


[22-Feb-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Feb-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reverse it to kill the one creating these trolley problems


[22-Feb-19 02:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't pull the lever. the train wont have a track to run on as there are too many people close together would cause the train to derail.


[22-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
assume the train's wheels are frictionless


[22-Feb-19 02:50 AM] Honahue#0656
the trolly will be destroyed eventually and a finite number no matter how large subtracted from an infinite number leaves an infinite number so your choice really makes no difference


[22-Feb-19 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
But what if one is born to kill cancer.


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Err, cure cancer


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where is he in the set?


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
HE COULD BE FIRST


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
we already cured cancer, it just has to be approved by the FDA


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
with an infinte number an infinite number of people are cancer curers


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
it also kills any bacteria and virus too


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's called ProCas9


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
and it can be programmed to be an artificial immune system


[22-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
probably causes cancer


[22-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
why would it cause cancer


[22-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
it's used to modify DNA doesn't always mean it does it for the better


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
we fixed that


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he was born to cure cancer he wouldn;t be on that track as destiny wouldnt place him there


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it only activates when you give it a specific protein


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
ProCas9 literally can't modify DNA of things it's not programmed to


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it can't even modify anything when you don't want it to


[22-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
literally can't and it can never change either?


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
no, it isn't actually a living thing, it can't evolve


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not alive


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
doesn't need to evolve


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't reproduce


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
we have to make it


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cancer is a mutation


[22-Feb-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not a disease


[22-Feb-19 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I just think we shouldn't be hurrying into crap, so I'm glad it's still in FDA testing


[22-Feb-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to cure it you have to turn it off or repair the cell, which is very possibly and is on several lab testing lists, but it;s a slow proccess with a long way to go


[22-Feb-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
we program ProCas9 to snip the most common mutations that cause cancer


[22-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
what's the stablility of it long term? chemicals decompose, do we know that it's decompose to a safe inactive state or not?


[22-Feb-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
biological chemicals decompose really fast


[22-Feb-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the disturbing thing is the very thing that gives us cancer is the thing that makes lobsters immortal functionally


[22-Feb-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
generally stuff going in leaves your body in a couple days


[22-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
>do we know that it's decompose to a safe inactive state or not?


[22-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, even with the original Cas9, it could indirectly cure cancer by modifying immune cells taken out of the body and injected back in


[22-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
ProCas9 can just straight up murder cancer in your body without bothering you


[22-Feb-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
considering that people regularly put worse shit in their bodies I suspect that it has no issues with decomposition


[22-Feb-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not to say that I'm an expert on it


[22-Feb-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I just don't think it'll be a problem


[22-Feb-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Feb-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
ever since AOC got elected, bloomberg has become neoliberal inconvenienced millionaire headquarters


[22-Feb-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeeep


[22-Feb-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[22-Feb-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696470366/arrested-coast-guard-officer-planned-mass-terrorist-attack-on-a-scale-rarely-see

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Arrested Coast Guard Officer Allegedly Planned Attack 'On A Scale ...
Christopher Paul Hasson, a self-proclaimed white nationalist, allegedly wanted to "kill every last person on earth" in a crusade to establish a "white homeland." He is being held without bond.
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[22-Feb-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Glad we're calling them terrorists now


[22-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?

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[22-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Art should be offensive.


[22-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Kavanaugh DLC isn't worth the money from what I've heard.


[22-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of money put in just to make one average white dude.


[22-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of loyalty for a boofing gun.


[22-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
.p oc:boofy


[22-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, No results for your query.


[22-Feb-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is there a ginnsburg path?


[22-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
.p boofy


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[22-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's the one with the headphones


[22-Feb-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695903336/publisher-of-an-alabama-newspaper-calls-for-the-kkk-to-clean-out-washington

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Publisher Of An Alabama Newspaper Calls For The KKK To 'Clean Out'...
"We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them," said Goodloe Sutton, publisher of the Democrat-Reporter, after admitting he wrote an incendiary editorial.
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[22-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the hemp ropes


[22-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you've culturally infiltrated the far right with hippie degeneracy


[22-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
(while hemp products are legal in the US, making them is basically not until recently)


[22-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/netanayhus-election-rivals-merge-as-israeli-leader-makes-pact-with-extreme-right/2019/02/21/088a1a08-35a3-11e9-946a-115a5932c45b_story.html


[22-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47316511

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Netanyahu's election rivals join forces
Two of Israel's strongest candidates announce an alliance in a bid to beat the PM in April polls.
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[22-Feb-19 09:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[22-Feb-19 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/joseph-gerth/2019/02/21/kentucky-teacher-comes-out-bisexual-lgbt-and-gets-fired/2936424002/

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Kentucky teacher came out as bisexual to stop a student's suicide....
Nicholas Breiner was fired after he came out as bisexual to help teens who were considering suicide. Kentucky civil rights law doesn't protect him
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/02/21/PLOU/c999b7a1-7325-4b88-b27c-484f30e86432-Nicholas_Breiner.jpg?crop=2402,1370,x0,y936&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[22-Feb-19 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Feb-19 02:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So never because you will never get a red state on this.


[22-Feb-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[22-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/benjamin-netanyahu-s-embrace-far-right-extremists-may-seal-his-n974411

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Netanyahu's embrace of far-right extremists may seal his fate
Analysis: Israel's PM is facing an election challenge from a new alliance — and is potentially bringing extremists closer to the center of power.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_08/2761621/190222-israel-politics-mc-11582_daa12225cdb9747f6f4a1e06a8b27c6e.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[22-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hook theory in action


[22-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
corrupt center-right leader allies with outright fascists


[22-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because uh oh, the left wants equality that could harm my policies, guys


[22-Feb-19 10:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
"“The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler,” Happer explained to CNBC in 2014, after yelling at Andrew Ross Sorkin to “shut up” about him supposedly being a climate-change denier. In January 2017, he added in an e-mail to a Jezebel reader that the vilification of carbon dioxide also “differs little from . . . the Soviet extermination of class enemies or ISIL slaughter of infidels.”" - https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/william-happer-climate-change-panel

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Trump’s New Climate Czar: CO2 Has Been Treated Just Like “Jews...
William Happer, who is spearheading a proposed White House panel on climate change, believes CO2 “has undergone decade after decade of abuse, for no reason.”
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[22-Feb-19 10:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
DARK COMEDY   T I M E L I N E


[22-Feb-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/robert-mueller-wont-submit-report-to-attorney-general-next-week-nbc.html

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Robert Mueller won't submit report to attorney general next week, ...
Special counsel Robert Mueller will not deliver a report to the attorney general next week, as was previously reported by multiple outlets, a senior Department of Justice official told NBC News on Friday.
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[22-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we get these rumors every other week


[22-Feb-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will have it when he has it


[22-Feb-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the news agencies keep trying to do the stop light thing where you count down and hope when it hits one the  light changes, and when you get it right you feel like a wizard.


[22-Feb-19 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, you can do that just by looking at the crosswalk sign or the perpendicular traffic lights


[22-Feb-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, but that;s not the point


[22-Feb-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's how Bernie can still win


[22-Feb-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[22-Feb-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People saying things over and over again


[23-Feb-19 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LocJ7hcDk

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Is the USA worse than North Korea?
The USA has always postured as a force for peace around the world. Unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth. Buy Non-Compete Stuff: https://www...
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[23-Feb-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/22/health/title-x-final-rule/index.html

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Trump administration inches closer to defunding Planned Parenthood
The Department of Health and Human Services issued its final rule to revise the Title X family planning program, jeopardizing a decades-old program that serves millions of low-income people, critics say.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190222152304-planned-parenthood-exterior-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[23-Feb-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
me irl engaging with authentic austrian memes to dismantle the red pill cult

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[23-Feb-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/election-fraud-is-real-and-it-involves-a-republican.html

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GOP Finally Has Documented Case of Election Fraud — Committed by...
The GOP pushes voter suppression to fight imaginary fraud, but that wouldn’t have stopped Republicans accused of tainting a North Carolina House race.
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[23-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's ironic is that they completely ignore the one actual piece of evidence we have of election fraud


[23-Feb-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
in favor of pushing some nebulous argument that's not easily provable, especially against the evidence we already have that election fraud isn't widespread


[23-Feb-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a projection  tactic, they hope that by accusing other people of election fraud they can skirt under the radar with it themselves... which si stupid but they're still gonna fuckin try


[23-Feb-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're going to ignore the crap out of this election fraud case ebcause the one commiting it was a republican himself


[23-Feb-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if they acknowledge it then they have to livewith the consequences that their party cheats knowingly


[23-Feb-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means they then further have to acknowledge trump, which they dont want to do


[23-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/02/22/trump-administration-bars-family-planning-clinics-that-provide-abortion-referrals-million-program/


[23-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you so much as say the patient can go somewhere else to get an abortion, you lose federal funding


[23-Feb-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Trump administration took aim at Planned Parenthood Friday, issuing a rule barring groups that provide abortions or abortion referrals from participating in the $286 million federal family planning program — a move expected to redirect tens of millions of dollars from the women’s health provider to faith-based groups.

The change means federally funded family planning clinics can no longer refer a patient for abortion and must maintain a “clear physical and financial separation” between services funded by the government and any organization that provides abortions or abortion referrals. Groups receiving money under the Title X program, which serves an estimated 4 million low-income women, were already prohibited from performing abortions with those funds.


[23-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Went straight from "don't use our money for what we hate" to "don't use our money if you so much as tell someone about what we hate"


[23-Feb-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/nyregion/manafort-pardon-trump.html

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Manhattan prosecutors are preparing state criminal charges against President Trump’s former campaign chairman in an effort to ensure he will face prison if he is pardoned for his federal crimes.
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[23-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
California-based abortion tourism company organizer attempts to leave an airport in rural Mississippi with clients on board (colorized, 2023):


[23-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/h_XRbGUZbfk

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Jock! Start the Engine!
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[23-Feb-19 08:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Aside from ponies, will there ever be a problem that I support LGBT?


[23-Feb-19 08:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Depends on where you live, but I don't have a problem with it.


[23-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grilled-children-feinstein-tries-teach-lesson-politics-n974896

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Grilled by children, Feinstein tries to teach a lesson in politics
"That resolution will not pass the Senate," Feinstein says of the Green New Deal.
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[23-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
what a fucking bitch


[23-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/sunrisemvmt/status/1099075460649107458

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This is how @SenFeinstein reacted to children asking her to support the #GreenNewDeal resolution -- with smugness + disrespect.

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[23-Feb-19 08:36 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is the US slowly accepting LGBT?


[23-Feb-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
>The Senator responded by asking for their ages, stating: “Well, you did not vote for me”.


[23-Feb-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
"Because you did not vote for me (read: pay me a few hundred thousand dollars in bribes), I'm going to destroy your adult lives ;)"


[23-Feb-19 08:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In the Philippines there's a lot of gay people, some of which are my friends


[23-Feb-19 08:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In the internet though, I have some bi and gay friends


[23-Feb-19 08:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's pretty broad political support for LGBT. On the whole last I checked rates of LGBT support is 60%


[23-Feb-19 08:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I can safely say that not everyone here is straight


[23-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
did you just assume this server's sexuality >:V


[23-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:VVVVV


[23-Feb-19 08:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I don't think I've seen anything that separates the T from the LGB either. I'll have to dig it up but there was a survey I saw earlier asking people what they would like least from their kids marrying. Republicans were the most terrified of their kids marrying a trans person and that was only second among Dems.


[23-Feb-19 08:39 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
No, as in there will be a mix of sexual orientations


[23-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/02/23/teacher-says-he-was-dismissed-his-sexuality-he-filed-lawsuit-protect-others-like-him/


[23-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that a bisexual teacher was fired in kentucky for coming out on instagram in order to try and save a lesbian student who apparently attempted to kill herself


[23-Feb-19 08:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
People are dicks mostly


[23-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
>can we just unplug the south and plug it back in again?


[23-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, the second civil war would have DC on the south instead of the north


[23-Feb-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
granted, with the economic powerhouses of new york and california, the south would be demolished in a civil war nowadays


[23-Feb-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP#List

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List of U.S. states and territories by GDP
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[23-Feb-19 08:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What happens if US split into 2


[23-Feb-19 08:48 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Just like Korea itself


[23-Feb-19 08:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I feel like the ability to make movies and dumb apps wouldn't really work to California advantage in a second civil war


[23-Feb-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
you know, except for the fact that all of that money is still money that can buy stuff


[23-Feb-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
That's made where?


[23-Feb-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the total GDP of the southern states that rebelled makes $5.522 trillion


[23-Feb-19 08:50 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So south is richer


[23-Feb-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
lol, hell no


[23-Feb-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
california and new york alone make over $4 trillion


[23-Feb-19 08:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Thanks to Hollywood


[23-Feb-19 08:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And ||9/11||


[23-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Honahue#0656
There's a lot of military and defense contractors in the south plus you know whomever northern chuds that think the south has the right idea money is good but if you gotta ship in supplies from NATO cause most your hardware is in some Texas Depot that's not great


[23-Feb-19 08:58 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Actually I haven't seen 9/11 live


[23-Feb-19 08:58 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I was like 3 at the time and think kiddie activities


[23-Feb-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
for just the states on the eastern side of the US, the states that existed and participated in the civil war on the union side have a combined GDP of $8.452 trillion


[23-Feb-19 09:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Florida man!


[23-Feb-19 09:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Oh wait


[23-Feb-19 09:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's a south


[23-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
including california, nevada, and oregon (which were all considered a part of the union but too far to provide any assistance), the total for the union would be $11.591 trillion


[23-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
to put that in perspective, california would make up 31% of the GDP of the union during the civil war


[23-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
of course, this is all ignoring the fact that racism has kind of metastasized and spread throughout the country


[23-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
and even existed in the north, the only difference is that the south required slavery in order to survive economically


[23-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
if lincoln hadn't been assassinated, the south would've collapsed economically instead of being able to use ex-slaves as serfs


[23-Feb-19 09:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Okay then how did they survive when slavery is outlawed


[23-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
I just said how they survived


[23-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
they would've been forced to rebuild like europe after WW2


[23-Feb-19 09:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Arguably the south never did recover, at least not in the way it was. The Civil War wrought wide spread economic destruction and Reconstruction was a long period of mismanagement. I think a lot of it may still be running on the federal dollar and shit. Certain regions have faired better under different economies, like Florida picked up tourism, NASA, and Disney in the 20th century transitioning it from an alligator infested swap to an alligator infested swamp with American's sinulacrea of itself and Kennedy Space Center.


[23-Feb-19 09:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Louisiana as I understand it is still rather backwards, never mind the Gulf of Mexico is practically dead and it's lost a significant portion of its land from erosion caused by mass deforestation of its mangrove swamps.


[23-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
the GDP in all of the states are focused pretty much just in the big cities (which are also more progressive than the rural areas)


[23-Feb-19 09:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the north - like Michigan, my home - were highly industrialized and developed even further in the post war. The development of the car industry was a huge draw to disenfranchised blacks and melottos of the south who migrated en'masse to Detroit to work some of the best jobs of the mid-century.


[23-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
so in a more realistic method of breaking down a theoretical second civil war would be to look at the GDPs of each of the counties separately and then looking at their voting habits


[23-Feb-19 09:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bit by bit by the fifties through the sixties a lot of industries went about a program of outsourcing and decentralizing even in the US that saw the big old plants of Detroit split apart and spread among the suburbs and the nation that put manufacturing in the south in, like the 60's and 70's before it all retreated to outside the states on the permanent quest for lower expenditures.


[23-Feb-19 09:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Reconstruction is considered a disaster historically. The South is just one big weird meme.


[23-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's also the assumption you have to make recently that a few states have been actively trying to suppress voters, and most of those voters tend to vote democrat


[23-Feb-19 09:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
So says the guy going back to NOLA for a week in just over a month and loves NOLA, the last bastion of original America culture besides some small town New England fish bakes.


[23-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Honahue#0656
Civil war 2 would be horrific and I doubt it would be a 1 sided curb stomp fight just because of wealth because the country would divide more rural vs Urban not North vs south


[23-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
civil war 2 would probably end in nukes


[23-Feb-19 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
plus the fact that it would probably coincide with russia invading europe


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
not sure how china would handle it


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Invade Korea an Japan


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
but why would they? they're going for the culture win


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Claim all of asia


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
japan would be hell to invade


[23-Feb-19 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Pan Asia was a goal


[23-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
I can see them going for south korea though


[23-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
but they wouldn't touch japan with a 10 mile pole


[23-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Japan depend a lot on US military by their constitution they don't have a military just a defense force


[23-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a small country over all


[23-Feb-19 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
their "defense force" is actually a military


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Honahue#0656
It isn't


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
it has tanks


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
it has guns


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
it has an air force


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Honahue#0656
It doesn't operate outside of japan


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's like you're rhyming


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
so?


[23-Feb-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
a military doesn't have to operate outside its home territory


[23-Feb-19 09:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japan is nice for their contents tho


[23-Feb-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
and islands are incredibly difficult to invade (see: the UK during WW2)


[23-Feb-19 09:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What about Iceland


[23-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
and china wouldn't dare nuke japan again, or else they'd get nuked by the US


[23-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Not if the us is busy with it's own civil war


[23-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
... nukes reach across the ocean lol


[23-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Honahue#0656
That's not the point


[23-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Honahue#0656
Your generals and politicians would have enough problems


[23-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
plus there's submarines patrolling whose sole purpose is to launch retaliatory nukes in the event of a nuclear strike


[23-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Honahue#0656
Also china barely has any nuke anyway


[23-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
they won't be called back in the case of a civil war


[23-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Honahue#0656
And that's mostly a Russian strategy the US mostly does force projection with it's navy


[23-Feb-19 09:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
DID SOMEONE SAY SINO-JAPANESE WAR 3: REVENGE OF NANKING?


[23-Feb-19 09:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/UlmEftCeFmY

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[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Japan does have it coming though


[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, china's currently making diplomatic eyes at japan


[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Japan has too much to lose, and given their insane inflation and current attachment to the American economy to anchor them, shit'll fall apart fast.


[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Japan probably could afford the necessary shit fast enough


[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Without selling the Emperor's koi or something.


[23-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
japan is referred to as a "de facto nuclear state"


[23-Feb-19 09:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
BUT LET THE MODERN SŌHEI RISE AGAIN


[23-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
because it has all the materials and technology required to build a nuke within a year


[23-Feb-19 09:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
MARATHON IKKO IKKI MONKS BUT ACTUALLY COMMUNIST THIS TIME AND NOT PISSED PEASANTS.


[23-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
china's at about 250-300 nukes


[23-Feb-19 09:35 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Communist Japan


[23-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
So? Japan was nuked they are one of the most pro denuclearization states


[23-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
That's a barely any compared to US or Russia


[23-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean it's enough


[23-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
But most nukes are lower yield now a days


[23-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
if china declares war on japan while the US is preoccupied with a civil war, you can bet all the money on the planet that they'll start building nukes


[23-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
No one does Tsar Bomba anymore


[23-Feb-19 09:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
MEIN GOTT GIVE ME SŌHEI WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. https://youtu.be/3h0heT3sVas

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[23-Feb-19 09:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
HAIL COMRADE AMIDA BUDDHA


[23-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Honahue#0656
The motivation isn't there to do it cause the point of tsar Bomba was to blow up.everything between the furthest they knew they could penetrate air defense and what they actually wanted destroyed


[23-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Honahue#0656
MRVs make that less of an issue


[23-Feb-19 09:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/vWXlPGEeeSI

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Yogi Brahmananda
https://youtu.be/vWXlPGEeeSI
Amida Buddha chant
The most beautiful Amida Buddha chant I heard. Namo Amida Bu.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vWXlPGEeeSI/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Feb-19 09:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
A battle between Japan and China shall usher in the end of Evangelion.


[23-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, china probably won't actually declare war on anyone, just use the opportunity to aggressively make inroads to winning their cultural victory


[23-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Honahue#0656
They still want Panasia


[23-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
they can get that via trade and diplomacy within a century at the rate they're currently going


[23-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
and probably just ignore japan until its practically begging for help


[23-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
with a second civil war in the US, they could shave off a few decades


[23-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Honahue#0656
If America went to civil war Japan would need help immediatly


[23-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
but why?


[23-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
you keep saying this, but there's no proof


[23-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Because we help prop their economy up


[23-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
They've been in economic problems since the 80's


[23-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/19/amidst-global-volatilities-japan-could-be-the-best-performing-asset.html


[23-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
"It's not necessarily that Japan doesn't have issues. It is just the (Bank of Japan) knows exactly what they are doing. The government of Japan's been managing the Japanese economy for well over three decades," Shvets said.


[23-Feb-19 09:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Really we all have less credentials than foreign policy experts and by definition foreign policy experts are degreed morons who exist merely to assure us of the justiceness of our current policies and course.


[23-Feb-19 09:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Foreign policy junkies know nothing, and we know less.


[23-Feb-19 09:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
So a return of the sōhei with anarcho-buddhost characteristics is as likely as Japan falling apart from a lack of US.


[23-Feb-19 09:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
The thing is too is that a highly devalied currency is also only useful to attract manufacturing from outside because it cheapens it relatively. It's not a bankable war currency.


[23-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.worldstopexports.com/japans-top-import-partners/

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Daniel Workman
http://www.worldstopexports.com/japans-top-import-partners/
Japan’s Top Trading Partners
Known as the Land of the Rising Sun, Japan is a major economic and political power in Asia. Yet it is a North American nation–the United States–that was the number two purchaser of Japa…
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[23-Feb-19 09:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Last time Japan went to war it made it's already devalied currency worse.


[23-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
>China: US$144 billion (19.5% of Japan’s total exports)


[23-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
>United States: $140.6 billion (19%)


[23-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[23-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, no way china's invading japan with those numbers


[23-Feb-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, china will just take the US's share of imports


[23-Feb-19 09:51 AM] Honahue#0656
China has the man power it's basically because of US presence that they don't try it


[23-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHA5pCy02wE

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Binkov's Battlegrounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHA5pCy02wE
Can China invade Japan? (If USA is neutral)
In a hypothetical world without US involvement, what could China do in a war against Japan? What options does it have and could it rule above the Japanese sk...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KHA5pCy02wE/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
apparently, china uses a unique 5.8mm caliber, on top of their largest branch of military being the army, which isn't so good at invading


[23-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
largest branch by far


[23-Feb-19 09:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
>More international punditry.


[23-Feb-19 09:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[23-Feb-19 09:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
But in this conversation we're still forgetting America. We're thinking a collapse of America will only effect a small amount of parties and not that a collapse of America will signal the collapse of the world economy in general, throwing in a shit ton of chaos. It's not that Chinese capital will replace American capital, but that Chinese capital too will also take significant damade. As well as Japan, as well as every one. And that'll ripple into investments everyone makes into everyone. It's not just American capital will be withdrawn, but in doing so entire sectors will fall apart.


[23-Feb-19 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
China has the advantage that it isn't an island and Japan isn't food sufficient, they really just need to blockade and they'll win a war of attrition


[23-Feb-19 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
according to that very video, china doesn't have the navy requires to blockade an island of japan's size


[23-Feb-19 10:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
The American dollar is also the premier currency on the world, and the value of that dollar is pegged to nothing but our national prestige, the output of our economy, the strength of the military, and stability of its government and laws. A failure in any of these - particularly in this situation, the stability of it's government and capabilities of the armies - would collapse the dollar and crash everything tied to it, which is basically everyone. The debts that are owed to China are strategic too so that China can keep a steady value of its Ren in comparison to the USD. The world of the gold standard is over when US supremecy was had on it literally owning 2/3 of all the gold standard, and China isn't independent of the gold standard by being on a silver standard.


[23-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Honahue#0656
It doesn't need to be a complete blockade a partial one can be just as effective, hungry people make for poor solider and lose moral quick


[23-Feb-19 10:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Then Japan would be facing internal civil unrest


[23-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
plus it would take years for such a method to work


[23-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
he talks about a blockade at the end of the video


[23-Feb-19 10:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Having played Shogun 2 I know how frustrating it is to have a food shortage in a single province so I'm a bit of an expert here.


[23-Feb-19 10:06 AM] Honahue#0656
So? Wars often last years


[23-Feb-19 10:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
And to even lose a bit of that trade when your shit is carefully balanced.


[23-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
more than enough time for them to amass nukes


[23-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Honahue#0656
That's assuming they would want to do that


[23-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
I can guarantee you, japan would rather nuke itself than give up to china


[23-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Honahue#0656
I can guarantee you you're in no place to make that judgement


[23-Feb-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And again we're assuming this scenario plays out under current circumstances and not when the US is falling apart.


[23-Feb-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason why japan gave up in the WW2 is because the emperor beseeched them to give up


[23-Feb-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
So the interconnected nature of economies is not being valued in.


[23-Feb-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The chaos is so much that we're reducing international punditry and self-proclaimed expertise to the point of minimum value.


[23-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah that video makes a lot of assumptions, the fact that China wouldn't just use North Korea as a platform would change things


[23-Feb-19 10:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Actually it was because the country was dead three times over and not because the Emperor asked nicely


[23-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/08/06/commentary/japan-surrender-world-war-ii/

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/08/06/commentary/japan-surrender-world-war-ii/
Why did Japan surrender in World War II? | The Japan Times
The contentious debate among scholars about why Japan surrendered in World War II continues to rage.
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[23-Feb-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
"In February 1945, the Japanese military conducted a survey that concluded that Japan could not win the war. But they were not squeamish about the suffering of the Japanese public — more than 60 Japanese cities were subjected to extensive firebombing in 1945, displacing, maiming and killing several hundred thousand civilians. Military leaders could not contemplate the ignominy of surrender, so they compelled their nation to continue fighting a war that was already lost, subjecting the Japanese to horrific suffering that they could have ended far sooner."


[23-Feb-19 10:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, read a book and not an article.


[23-Feb-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
why?


[23-Feb-19 10:11 AM] Honahue#0656
That's cool, those generals are mostly dead Japan has different leadership now


[23-Feb-19 10:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Paul Ham's Hiroshima and Nagasaki goes into this. The Samurai class running the country were intent on continuing fighting even though they knew they were four times beaten. There was no food, Tokyo was deleted, no navy, no army, no airforce.


[23-Feb-19 10:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Different military strategy


[23-Feb-19 10:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
But since they wanted one last fight before surrendering, nukes or no nukes, they would have kept going.


[23-Feb-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
"Finally, it was the Soviet entry into the war and the atomic bombings that precipitated a hasty surrender. But it was overdue because the signs of defeat, including a devastating series of setbacks on the home front, had been gathering for some time: endless fire bombings, growing shortages of food due to the U.S. blockade “Operation Starvation,” bereaved families and the subversion of people voting with their feet. There was no appetite for suffering the fate of the Nazis or subjecting the nation to more nightmarish ruination."


[23-Feb-19 10:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Emperor did make moves to surrender, but the Soviet invasion of Manchuria probably had more to do with America going through with it since the final surrender was basically the same shit they've been asking for.


[23-Feb-19 10:13 AM] Honahue#0656
You're making a rather large assumption that the Japanese of ww2 are the Japanese of today


[23-Feb-19 10:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Japanese today pretty much have the most anti-war constitution ever.


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
They're legally obligated to reject every war.


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Honahue#0656
They aren't sitting around waiting to wet their katanas with Chinese blood


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
and you're making the assumption that china would want to instantly invade japan the moment the US wasn't looking


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
which is even bigger than mine lol


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
the chinese aren't geared for invasion


[23-Feb-19 10:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Plus Japan's demographically decaying. There is no one to fight because most of them are over 60.


[23-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I'll grant it's a large assumption but China has had and does have Pan Asia designs


[23-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
invading japan quickly would lead to horrific losses, and waiting it out has the added risk of letting japan make nukes


[23-Feb-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
which would make the waiting it out approach pointless to begin with


[23-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
and we can't really make the assumption that the US would just forget about japan in the first place in the event of a US civil war


[23-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
japan is one of the US's biggest allies


[23-Feb-19 10:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but if China thinks Japan is going to defensive inuke China is already ahead of them


[23-Feb-19 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then with the collapse of the US economy and the wild doubt cast into the currency market: is there even enough value Japan can muster to buy the shit that's probably getting fucked by costs when one of the legs of the world economy fucking explodes?


[23-Feb-19 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's the initiating event here.


[23-Feb-19 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
US collapse.


[23-Feb-19 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that ends the dollar


[23-Feb-19 10:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
And ending the dollar crashes the market.


[23-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
the US wouldn't immediately collapse upon entering a civil war


[23-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah the US imploding is disasterous for everyone


[23-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
it'd take a year or two


[23-Feb-19 10:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
So when everything has gotten shafted by no dollar to base shit on it all goes to hell


[23-Feb-19 10:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Even a slow collapse would be awful


[23-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Russia hates Japan too they'd probably invade just to spite them


[23-Feb-19 10:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
If we're also going with no immediate action, and that China would need to muster the resources to invade, would Japan be able to predict the necessity for a nuke as well as rearming itself to prepare?


[23-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Though they don't like China much either


[23-Feb-19 10:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And at that point how much has the economy collapsed?


[23-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
china and russia share pretty much none of the same ideology anymore


[23-Feb-19 10:21 AM] Honahue#0656
They don't but Russia and Japan are technically at war


[23-Feb-19 10:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
But currencies can collapse overnight comparatively.


[23-Feb-19 10:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Over a few northern islands


[23-Feb-19 10:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also Russia and China didn't like each other when they had the same ideology.


[23-Feb-19 10:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's this thing called the Sino-Soviet split y'know


[23-Feb-19 10:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I read a bit about that


[23-Feb-19 10:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
MAO EMBARASSES GORBACHEV IN A POOL


[23-Feb-19 10:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Well I think some of it was Mao thought nuclear revolution was a good idea and the Russians were happy with MAD


[23-Feb-19 10:23 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[23-Feb-19 10:23 AM] Honahue#0656
L-lewd


[23-Feb-19 10:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dearest Leadee


[23-Feb-19 10:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Leader*


[23-Feb-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
Leader


[23-Feb-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
But yeah, given the overlooked or under-estimated currency matter in the given scenario we turn into a state of such chaotic probablity we enter into the world or absurd speculation I've long trained myself for to write with. So if I say Xi Jinping will evolve into Big Dong Ciao Ciao he will evolve into Big Dong Ciao Ciao


[23-Feb-19 10:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
He will write Chad poetry to the wine god. https://youtu.be/UQlmx7u2h1o

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Miles Lee
https://youtu.be/UQlmx7u2h1o
Red Cliff II: Duange xing （短歌行）- Cao Cao (曹操）
A very powerful moment in Red Cliff II, Cao Cao - known in popular Chinese folk as a villainous warlord, shows his talent for...poetry! This poem is called "...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UQlmx7u2h1o/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
North vs. South would be over in a week


[23-Feb-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The National Guard would refuse Southern orders


[23-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas servicemen in California would get arrested


[23-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'd be sparse military resistance as stroops storm across the South


[23-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if somehow each state had its own proportionate military


[23-Feb-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just leads to something like California storming Texas


[23-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The North STILL has better transportation infrastructure by far


[23-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Not Michigan lol


[23-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter, the side with a way to get to the front lines fast is on the offensive


[23-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
From that point on, the side with worse infrastructure is playing defense, and thus loses horribly.


[23-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Honahue#0656
I say it wouldn't be an easy north south split, it'd be worse rural urban and every state has those


[23-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about whoever gets to the interstate with the most vehicles, basically


[23-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural vs. Urban is a loss in a day


[23-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural areas hav like no infrastructure by definition


[23-Feb-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd slowly charge into the cities and be mowed down


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Urban areas are dependant on rural supplies


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile the cities could deploy *just* police forces and overrun the rural areas bit by bit


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Honahue#0656
NYC can't feed itself


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble with that is, the farms are owned by megacorps now


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rural towns that'd actually rise up don't feed America anymore


[23-Feb-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time there's even a slight dent in NYC's food, the conflict is over.


[23-Feb-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you need weeks for a *major* dent to start causing real hunger issues.


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern wars don't last weeks unless there's serious terrain issues and tons of insurgency.


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno, I suspect NYC doesn't have warehouses full.of food those are probably outside of the city


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Bruh


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Are you dense?


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Modern war was 14 years long


[23-Feb-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which one?


[23-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Walmart has warehouses full of food


[23-Feb-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYC is actually like one of the only places without any Walmarts


[23-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it has tons of food ready to eat with long shelf lifes still


[23-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
even just the stores would take like a month to run out of basic calories


[23-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Walmarts aren't in NYC


[23-Feb-19 10:47 AM] Honahue#0656
But I get your point


[23-Feb-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern food processing involves *milk* that lasts 6 months


[23-Feb-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
good lukk starving out a city.


[23-Feb-19 10:48 AM] Honahue#0656
It doesn't take.long


[23-Feb-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Castle sieges could take years...


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Honahue#0656
That had foresight though


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we can airlift supplies now


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not with anti-aor


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural area can siege a city, planes will just aidrop supplies.


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anti-air*


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US does not hav a lot of combat-ready anti-air equipment lying around.


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Cities aren't castles either and castles didn't have millions of people


[23-Feb-19 10:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
If a dude with a MANPAD can fire an explosive rocket at a thing in the air and take it out, airlifts ain't shit.


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of stuff is kept in storage, scattered across bases.


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mujjahadeen did it in the Sahel all the time


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those guys were being supplied by the US army


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US army would side with the cities


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not the ones in the Sahel


[23-Feb-19 10:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Most cities don't have moths.worths of stored food shit is shipped in every day


[23-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's shipped in every day to replace what people buy


[23-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stores often hav shittons of food on the shelves and throw out tons of stuff for going past arbitrary expiration dates


[23-Feb-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus more in the bakk waiting.


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah and most stores don't have months worth of stock on hand


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an emergency, expiration dates would be ignored


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually every grocery store does


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Honahue#0656
And it would run out in a hurry


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart has like *2* months of food normally


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not until one rocket boy knocks out the WalMart


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because Putin is playing musical chairs with his favorite groups


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're assuming a lot about rural capabilities


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
By giving them stuff


[23-Feb-19 10:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Also where's the power station and water treatment for that big city?


[23-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Taking out sewerage and electricity would hurt a big city in a hurry


[23-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Usually in a suburb


[23-Feb-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with a few in the city proper


[23-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Even just rationing electricity in a big city would be pretty awful


[23-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Honahue#0656
And NYC has had this happen before


[23-Feb-19 10:54 AM] Honahue#0656
In the 70's


[23-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Honahue#0656
But the grid really isn't that much more robust now


[23-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
On war's start, everyone would be without power within an hour


[23-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things would largely depend on fuel reserves


[23-Feb-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are in the cities


[23-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Most that stuff is stored outside of cities


[23-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Because land value is so high


[23-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not fuel


[23-Feb-19 10:56 AM] Honahue#0656
You cant compress oil and only compress natural gas so much


[23-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fuel is something that is held in reserve for emergencies and supplying fleets of snow clearing vehicles etc.


[23-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and gas stations also contain a lot, and are clustered in cities


[23-Feb-19 10:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Implying Chad illegaliats won't seize the moment and blow them up


[23-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
rural areas hav way less fuel stored in them


[23-Feb-19 10:57 AM] Honahue#0656
So it takes up a set volume and in a big urban center that can be used for more valuable stuff


[23-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Depends, a lot of rural stuff near me has on site propane


[23-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Farmers get red diesel for their tractors


[23-Feb-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fuel is generally stored underground


[23-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Honahue#0656
And in big urban areas underground costs more to make


[23-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it does, but it has to be done


[23-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so it is done


[23-Feb-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't drive your snow plows out to the countryside before you plow snow


[23-Feb-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Cities rely on constant logistics they aren't fortresses


[23-Feb-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav reserves of fuel.


[23-Feb-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said reserves are needed to function as cities when blizzards roll in


[23-Feb-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't *need* to be fortresses to defeat rural areas


[23-Feb-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just need to survive an initial assault and last a week


[23-Feb-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav more reserves than rural areas, are more easily defended, hav higher populations, hav more money, basically every advantage possible except producing their own food.


[23-Feb-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would take over a month for lakk of food production to even start to matter.


[23-Feb-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In that time, the countryside could be devastated.


[23-Feb-19 11:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Here in my state one natural gas storage unit caught fire and the whole southern half of the same had to ration heating


[23-Feb-19 11:03 AM] Honahue#0656
And it wasn't in a city


[23-Feb-19 11:05 AM] Honahue#0656
No American city has a month of provisions for it's population


[23-Feb-19 11:06 AM] Honahue#0656
A week maybe


[23-Feb-19 11:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I had to turn down my heat for a whole week.


[23-Feb-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
America is a first world country on third world infrastructure. The moment shit goes wrong it'll domino


[23-Feb-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder America's infrastructure has been given consistent failure marks


[23-Feb-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally sign up for the semester again


[23-Feb-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Do not take out grants again


[23-Feb-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
You got a 1.5


[23-Feb-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another weakness america has is it;s corporations, with the current system as it is, in a resource war corporations would hoard as many resources as they can to make a profit. They would likely start buying up farms so that people couldnt grow new resources so they could charge out the ass for said resources, this would be an effective short terms means of profit while they also seek deals to move to other countries to protect their interests


[23-Feb-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart has even started doing so with dairy farms so they can raise the price of milk per gallon


[23-Feb-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this would be especially bad if it happened under donald trump who would very much side with the corporations over the american people


[23-Feb-19 03:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think companies are obligated to turn a profit for their shareholders in a way that isn't reciprocated. Like, the investors are under no such obligation to uphold the company's mission statement or code of ethics (assuming there was one), and yet they have control over decisions within the company. CMV


[23-Feb-19 03:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This isn't to suggest that businesses are unethical just because they're publicly traded, but it does suggest a fundamentally broken imbalance in my opinion


[23-Feb-19 04:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But that could just be that I'm unaware of anything you can do in return. Like, you can't fire investors, and only a few jurisdictions have the idea of a "benefit corporation"


[23-Feb-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47316294

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47316294
Pope: Concrete action needed on abuse
The world wants more than condemnations, the Pope tells a summit on child sexual abuse at the Church.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p071j1v0.jpg


[23-Feb-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to beleive his intentions but saying and doing are two very different things


[23-Feb-19 04:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, the guy *has* done more to acknowledge the problem and attempt to find a solution than pretty much anyone before him in the Church, ever


[23-Feb-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point


[23-Feb-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m hoping he can pull this off but i;m more worried what the church will do to sabotage his efforts


[23-Feb-19 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1099341141152055296?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1099341141152055296?s=21
Great new book: “The Case For Trump” by Victor Davis Hanson, Hoover Senior Fellow.
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[23-Feb-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/politics/medicare-for-all-lobbyists.html

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By ROBERT PEAR
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/politics/medicare-for-all-lobbyists.html
Health Care and Insurance Industries Mobilize to Kill ‘Medicare ...
Doctors, hospitals, drug companies and insurers have a simple message: The Affordable Care Act works reasonably well and should be improved, not repealed or replaced with a big new public program.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/24/us/24dc-health/merlin_148548990_fc86a78a-61f3-40f5-a870-9388f048dd77-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Feb-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
National emergency in ten years over this


[23-Feb-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know what they would do; shut down certain insurance companies?


[23-Feb-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918
Venezuela soldiers abandon border posts
The men had been securing the border with Colombia that was closed to stop aid being delivered.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p071sf7x.jpg


[23-Feb-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-IOrRqLw0g

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-IOrRqLw0g
Bernie’s Back, Kamala Gets Questioned, Gillibrand Eats Chicken &...
Bernie Sanders announces his 2020 run, Kamala Harris faces questions about when exactly she smoked weed, Kirsten Gillibrand is criticized for being polite, a...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6-IOrRqLw0g/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Feb-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
bernie is the best


[24-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Litrojia#0612
This dude isn't very funny, but that Bernie clip... nice


[24-Feb-19 12:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
fun fact about fuel


[24-Feb-19 12:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
it evaporates


[24-Feb-19 12:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
and damages metal tanks over time


[24-Feb-19 12:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
oil BTFO


[24-Feb-19 12:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
it also just sorta becomes shitty/degrades over time


[24-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I only linked it for bernie


[24-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
rest of the video is meh


[24-Feb-19 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, Maduro has ordered his troops to shoot anyone crossing the border and set fire to any aid trucks


[24-Feb-19 02:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
That kinda happens when the US is agreeing to smuggle weapons to their puppet and stage a military coup


[24-Feb-19 02:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
A bunch of CIA sponsored protestors with military hardware beats a few dudes with molotovs and the rest with sticks and farm tools at best any day


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who would win


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's well known the US loves to help fascist groups


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The greatest army the world has ever seen with access to nukes, air support, and bombs


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
So long as it results in profits for US companies it's A-okay


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or rice farmers with sticks covered in poop


[24-Feb-19 02:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
To be fair Vietnam happened


[24-Feb-19 02:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Lmao


[24-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Super war crimey but genius


[24-Feb-19 02:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Amerilards BTFO


[24-Feb-19 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it doesn't kill, it disables which means wasting time on evac and medical care


[24-Feb-19 02:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Americans have commited the most war crimes out of everyone


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan and Germany close


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
So honestly it's not worth even counting anyone else as bad


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Any current or recent ish group anyway


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
the nazis were definitely worse


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Although the US has definitely caused more mass poverty and famine than nazis


[24-Feb-19 02:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
So arguably they've caused more misery globally


[24-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
11 million systematically exterminated in a very orderly and efficient way is the most horrific thing that can be done


[24-Feb-19 02:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
They've just not genocided specific people's, unless you consider killing leftists in central and southern America genocide


[24-Feb-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
in terms of pure suffering, yeah the US has it beat, but in terms of the peak potential of horror, the nazis have everyone beat


[24-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that china's doing a watered down version right now


[24-Feb-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
but no one's giving a shit because china's "sticking it to The Man (US)"


[24-Feb-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
also, venezuela was going to be a shitshow no matter whether foreign powers interfered or not


[24-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
it went full corporate capitalism for the guys at the top while leaving the people to rot in the worst kind of authoritarian socialism


[24-Feb-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
(hint: all authoritarianism is bad)


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
They didn't kill or deport all capitalists is the issue


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's the reality


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
So they can't have socialism with all of the capitalists owning most of the shit so they're stuck


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
the capitalists are all the people in charge though


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
the generals


[24-Feb-19 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro isn't authoritarian so much as he's backed into a corner by sanctions and the capitalists in his own nation wanting to fuck him over


[24-Feb-19 03:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
And all of this reee cops killing protestors are because the right wing protests are armed and attacking people, not LITERALLY UNARMED CIVVIES THAT DID NOTHING WRONG


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a lot more nuanced than Ree auth bad


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
The US puppet will result in more poverty and suffering


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
relying on a single commodity for all of the value of your currency is an incredibly bad idea, no matter what economic system you use though


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro is sudsidising shit for the poor and the rich own everything but the oil


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Should've nationalised the Rich's shit


[24-Feb-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Had more economically to fund shit


[24-Feb-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Again, they went way too easy on the bourgeoisie so the economy is still largely private


[24-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think any sort of decentralized democratic socialism government has ever been attempted, only the big centralized one government controls everything and goes overboard with the control


[24-Feb-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
This is what happens when your revolution is cut short by going easy on capitalists


[24-Feb-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
And not just going, we're taking your wealth so you have to work like the rest of us, the factories n shit will keep going and everyone will keep their jobs, it'll just subsidize the people instead of your 3rd yatch


[24-Feb-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
If you fight back with force bought by your capital, guess it's time to get the wall


[24-Feb-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Venezuela is proof that charities are a fucking meme and the rich will always only do shit to increase their money piles even if it means suffering and they cannot be allowed to keep more than they need.


[24-Feb-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
To the point they'll burn shit to fuck over the government to threaten their profits


[24-Feb-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Bye bye aid, toilet paper? Burnt? Water and food? Destroyed


[24-Feb-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
If we aren't allowed to sell it and it's free, it threatens market prices


[24-Feb-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, throwing out the democratically elected legislative body in favor of one completely packed with sycophants who will rubber stamp your dictatorship, on top of stacking the courts with even more yes-men is incredibly scummy


[24-Feb-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
Crying about the government making food cheaper so people can actually afford it


[24-Feb-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't just a conspiracy to fuck up the country by international capitalists that caused it to go down, it's also his response to them


[24-Feb-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's a bit more nuanced than that, and maduro was still voted in, just because some right wing dickheads boycotted shot doesn't magically make his election undemocratic


[24-Feb-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
He has a huge base of supporters in reality if you look into actual journalism beyond US supported shit


[24-Feb-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hell, Twitter is deleting real journalism for the US interests


[24-Feb-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
It deleted like 2000 accounts that were pro maduro


[24-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
there were <20% turnout while he somehow got >90% of the vote, the legislative body was also democratically elected as well, but he unilaterally threw them out


[24-Feb-19 03:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Time will show if US will fuck up the country (of which I'm sure), what is the reason to argue? 🤔


[24-Feb-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
If you boycott, you don't get to say it's undemocratic, and the UN body watching for democracy literally said their elections were legit afaik


[24-Feb-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, if the people want a better revolution


[24-Feb-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
They can organise it without the US plunging everyone into war


[24-Feb-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
And Columbia is a lolcow of a country if you wanna compare venuezuela to a capitalist land


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or Haiti after US interests staged at least 3 coups this century


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Praise be the efficiency of capitalism


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
all of the watchers weren't allowed into the country for all the elections since 2016


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
there weren't any watchers in 2016, 2017, or 2018


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, news stands there sell pro other party papers


[24-Feb-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's no meme censorship


[24-Feb-19 03:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
And they have access to the internet too.
Basically noone there speaks English btw


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
So anyone from there speaking English is likely a rich white defector in America rn and going AS A VUVUZUALAN


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I COULDNT BE AN ENTREPRENEUR


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's a pony artist who's venezuelan and still there last I checked, he blamed everything on maduro on his tumblr page, including the censorship and internet blackouts they started doing


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
They have active anti government papers casually sold at news stands, what meme censorship?


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ponies are US franchise


[24-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
And radio stations


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
scorpdk


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's just a porky meme


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He is a spy obviously, Crow.


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Is he white?


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
.p artist:scorpdk, fluttershy


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[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Legg


[24-Feb-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because in veneuezuala, the demographics basically say white people are well off and everyone else is fucked


[24-Feb-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1099071807976550400

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ScorpDK 🔞 (@ScorpDK)
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1099071807976550400
Heh, Government threatened with jail towards every TV-channel or Cable provider that dares to transmit the Aid Live concert.
Few minutes ago, the only remaining channel we had to watch it was knocked out.
Still got Youtube, tho.
Twitter


[24-Feb-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Poor Maduro, so misunderstood!


[24-Feb-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1099088433098706944

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ScorpDK 🔞 (@ScorpDK)
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1099088433098706944
Meanwhile, the government's own live concert is a total shitfest. They have like...a maximum of two, static cameras, one which shows the stage zoomed in, the other showing a small area that people are being told to clump in, for show. Mingled in-between are soldiers, "moti...
Twitter


[24-Feb-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's so true, literally everyone is wrong about Venezuela


[24-Feb-19 03:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
Surprise surprise when most defectors are white families that were rich before revoltution lmao


[24-Feb-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's only a bad place (if that! News is spiked!) because of capitalist americans!


[24-Feb-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's a millionaire funded concert to propagandize a US puppet


[24-Feb-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stop strawmanning


[24-Feb-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1096999688518205440

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ScorpDK 🔞 (@ScorpDK)
https://twitter.com/ScorpDK/status/1096999688518205440
You know shit's wonk in your country's Internet Service, when your VPN is set to connect to the next best server, and it picks the United Fucking Arabic Emirates. When you're in the Caribbean!
Yeah, that makes sense. NOT.
Twitter


[24-Feb-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Of course they'd censor CIA propaganda campaigns mate


[24-Feb-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's funded by millionaires who clearly want the best for the poor ;_;


[24-Feb-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, I just say let the people decide


[24-Feb-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Fuck off America


[24-Feb-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Completely, no $$, no smuggled arms


[24-Feb-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
No sanctions


[24-Feb-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
Let them handle shit


[24-Feb-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
The people should honestly have another revolution that isn't so spineless and kill porky and take his Riches


[24-Feb-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
BTFO maduro


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
venezuela's been out of food, fuel, medicine, etc for years for the common people


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's had it


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
only people with anything are the people in charge


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's just been in the hands of the private corporations sold artificially high over the black market


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
The private corporations don't want to sell at maduros prices that people can afford


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
Supermarkets actually have plenty of shit


[24-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that someone accidentally swapped the video feed to maduro eating a big fucking meal when he's already a fat fuck before a speech in 2016


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
But weird shortages of shit like corn flour


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Toilet paper


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
when like 80% of his country is starving


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because corporations won't sell at the cheaper prices


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
maduro's literally eating like a king while his people starve


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
it's like modern day feudalism


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
The prices on the black market are artificially high and it's where a lot of the privately owned food sells


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
if he were actually socialist, he would literally seize all this shit that no one can afford and distribute them


[24-Feb-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
but he's high on his own god damn power


[24-Feb-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
if there were anything to actually seize, as you claim


[24-Feb-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
because last I've heard, everything's gone


[24-Feb-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
People aren't starving as much as you think they are and supermarkets have price controls and have plenty of food for people, traditional recipes use corn flour which is scarce


[24-Feb-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
other than what's shipped in under guard for the generals and the king


[24-Feb-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
All legal food is far cheaper than it otherwise would be


[24-Feb-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
And supermarkets aren't empty at all


[24-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortages_in_Venezuela

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortages_in_Venezuela
Shortages in Venezuela
Shortages in Venezuela of regulated food staples and basic necessities have been widespread following the enactment of price controls and other policies under the government of Hugo Chávez and exacerbated by the policy of withholding United States dollars from importers unde...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Venezuelan_eating_from_garbage.jpg/1200px-Venezuelan_eating_from_garbage.jpg


[24-Feb-19 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's videos with actual journalism around


[24-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wikipedia is a CIA psyop, Crow


[24-Feb-19 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Ah yes, when Twitter bans Venezuelans


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Half those IPs track back to Virginia and DC


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
And Wikipedia def isn't biased ever


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
Twitter banned over 2000 accounts m8


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/a-humanitarian-crisis-in-venezuela-nothing-to-see-here-government-says/2018/10/12/6ebd1aa6-c2ac-11e8-9451-e878f96be19b_story.html


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"In the world according to the Venezuelan government, state food programs are stocking empty supermarket shelves. An exodus of starving citizens to other countries is “fake news.” And claims of a dire health crisis are part of a global plot to lay the groundwork for a U.S. invasion."


[24-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WaPo is owned by Amazon, Crow, capitalism incarnate


[24-Feb-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
"The nation of 31 million is descending into chaos — a situation so desperate that HIV and cancer patients are going without treatment and parents are surrendering their hungry children to orphanages. But the government is doubling down on efforts to portray an alternative reality. For Venezuelans, each day brings a new barrage of propaganda on state media depicting a country that few of them recognize."


[24-Feb-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've got a solid source, just need to find it in my history lol


[24-Feb-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
"Many Venezuelan children returned to school in September with worn uniforms and holes in their shoes, some of them underweight because of the food shortages. Yet state channels showed footage of children in impeccable clothing, merrily returning to class. The reports also failed to mention a severe funding shortfall that appears set to force the closure of hundreds of schools nationwide."


[24-Feb-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
You know Cuba has a short one of doctors there right?


[24-Feb-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5MlQgGXyk&feature=youtu.be

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Empire Files
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5MlQgGXyk&feature=youtu.be
An Ocean of Lies on Venezuela: Abby Martin & UN Rapporteur Expose Coup
Keep Empire Files independent and ad-free: https://www.patreon.com/empirefiles On the eve of another US war for oil, Abby Martin debunks the most repeated my...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ii5MlQgGXyk/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
venezuela kicked all of the cuban doctors out lol


[24-Feb-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
Heres some good journalism


[24-Feb-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
because cuba refused to recognize the election as legitimate


[24-Feb-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Again, I'm not saying they're great, but the opposition is far more fucked


[24-Feb-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
At least the American puppet


[24-Feb-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Fuck him and his party


[24-Feb-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Let the rest decide shit democratically


[24-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time they try, Maduro changes how democracy works


[24-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to accept that there were outside economic pressures which caused venezuela to plummet faster than they would have on their own, but maduro's response to the exponentially worsening crisis was completely the wrong one which made everything even worse


[24-Feb-19 03:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
>bank of England literally stealing.billions of $$ in gold that could help


[24-Feb-19 03:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hmmmmm


[24-Feb-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Venezuela rn, unlike Rojava, is, imo, a case in which neither side holds the moral high ground, tbh. The response of Maduro's fickle regime to a resource crisis hasn't helped his country.


[24-Feb-19 03:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, sure, he fucked up, but economic sanctions and literally preventing them from using the gold stored in the bank of England to help shit makes shit far worse


[24-Feb-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that i support an US intervention, that'd obviously lead to civil war, an indebted Venezuela, and yet more cursed oil


[24-Feb-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe Chavez shouldn't have put an uneducated bus driver in charge just because he sucked his dick the hardest


[24-Feb-19 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, I'm literally fine with fair elections, but the US puppet sure as hell wouldn't win


[24-Feb-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
He's not as popular as the propaganda says, not nearly so or he wouldn't need US interference


[24-Feb-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
There are plenty of other parties


[24-Feb-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
But the US interfering is no way to cause democracy


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's just a way to kill people and cause more poverty and misery


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
And funnel money and oil to the US


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
If things are that bad, the people would use their power to force an election


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
... that's not how it works


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
The gigantic amount of pro maduro people seem to say otherwise


[24-Feb-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
if things are that bad, the people would just be shot for trying to protest it


[24-Feb-19 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
About it being so scarily unpopular that literally everyone hates maduro


[24-Feb-19 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
So clearly things aren't that bad and the US shouldn't intervene


[24-Feb-19 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
Point is, another election is due in time


[24-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Venezuela reeks of caciquism


[24-Feb-19 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
And boycotting it is literally cucking yourself soo


[24-Feb-19 03:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
There are other parties, and all democratic elections as far as we are aware before 2016, were democratic


[24-Feb-19 03:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, watch the video, I'm not a perfect person that can pull facts out of her ass at all times to anything


[24-Feb-19 03:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro didn't actually replace supreme Court justices, their terms expired, and the opposition took over a majority in 2016


[24-Feb-19 03:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
They used the national assembly as a tool of sabotage to make the place worse


[24-Feb-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
The national assembly dominate by the opposition aimed at a parliamentary coup.


[24-Feb-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
It was determined at least 3 had been elected through fraud


[24-Feb-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
The supreme Court was called to make a decision and basically reran those elections


[24-Feb-19 03:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
The opposition was elegible to run and encouraged to


[24-Feb-19 03:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
The opposition militants assassinated 2 people and attacked the polling centers


[24-Feb-19 03:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
This person in the video was there, you don't have to like the socialist party, but the constitution has and always did apply


[24-Feb-19 03:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
The voting system actually has more checks and verifications, audits than most other systems


[24-Feb-19 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
The opposition asked the UN to NOT send people to watch the election to make it look invalid


[24-Feb-19 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're pretending the surpreme court is full of impartial members


[24-Feb-19 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Obama won by 31% votes


[24-Feb-19 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Surprise, so did Maduro


[24-Feb-19 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
You're pretending the American one is any more democratic


[24-Feb-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can eat shit


[24-Feb-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For I have at no point pretended such a thing


[24-Feb-19 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Watch the video


[24-Feb-19 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://youtu.be/tEcW6UgDRrw

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Empire Files
https://youtu.be/tEcW6UgDRrw
Venezuela's Constituent Assembly: Dictatorship or Democracy?
On July 30th, Venezuelans elected a people's body called the "Constituent Assembly." The Empire Files was on-the-ground in the weeks prior. U.S. politicians,...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tEcW6UgDRrw/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 03:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
If there wasn't so much  US propaganda, why would Twitter and Facebook be censoring shit?

>Reeeeee, fake accounts tied to >MUH RUSSIA, IRAN, VENEZUELA


[24-Feb-19 03:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rly Tinks u dink


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
This is less 'its perfect', and more 'yes it's kinda shit but more democratic than the opposition'


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Y'all acting like I think it's great


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, dictator breaks all the rules to take control of country and treats aid for his starving people as a threat...same as the US with a normal election where not everyone voted?


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're an idiot if you believe this and a shill if you don't.


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Watch the video


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Actual journalism


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's two videos even


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
On the ground, there


[24-Feb-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not hav to watch your selected talking heads.


[24-Feb-19 03:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Real shit happening in the country, not some literally who Washington Post, link me independent media


[24-Feb-19 03:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Independent.


[24-Feb-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no such thing as independent media, and even less of such a possibility in a country like Venezeula.


[24-Feb-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very first thing fascism goes after is the media.


[24-Feb-19 03:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
International journalists can physically go there.


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
They have opposition papers sold at news stands there


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how they get gullible idiots to swallow their bullshit


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's hardly as hyper censored as you think


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and people in friendly regimes to nod along


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
They literally have anti government newspapers everywhere legally sold


[24-Feb-19 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
When a socialist does something it's regime


[24-Feb-19 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
If the US interferes they create a democracy


[24-Feb-19 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Words


[24-Feb-19 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://lanacionweb.com/nacional/netblocks-confirmo-bloqueos-a-youtube-bing-y-google-en-el-pais-durante-concierto-venezuela-aid-live/

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Becquerel
https://lanacionweb.com/nacional/netblocks-confirmo-bloqueos-a-youtube-bing-y-google-en-el-pais-durante-concierto-venezuela-aid-live/
NetBlocks confirmó bloqueos a YouTube, Bing y Google en el país ...
El observatorio de Internet, NetBlocks.org, informó que este viernes que las plataformas YouTube, Bing y Google fueron bloquedas en Venezuela durante la transmisión del concierto en apoyo a la ayud…
https://i0.wp.com/lanacionweb.com/dln/fotoedicion/2019/02/000_1DR0AU.jpg?fit=640%2C427&ssl=1


[24-Feb-19 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro fucked up a bunch but it's hardly literally Stalin


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
There are also huge 10s of thousands pro government protestors


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's more than one side here lol


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
The people there aren't all NPCs you can project to


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally normal for a country to have an office dedicated to censoring the internet


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
American intervention is unethical.


[24-Feb-19 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
America does it


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not for politics


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
To think they don't censor is dumb


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
>unethical to feed starving people


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk you, tbh


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
They are feeding them


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Government subsidies in food are huhe


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
*huge


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the national guard at the colombian border abandoned their posts


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918
Venezuela soldiers abandon border posts
The men had been securing the border with Colombia that was closed to stop aid being delivered.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p071sf7x.jpg


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wasn't aware "huge" has a different meaning in South America.


[24-Feb-19 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Private corporations refuse to sell at the lower prices


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
And burn aid


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Opposition literally burn food


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
How can you be this dense?


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, gotta turn this into the evils of capitalism


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the trump card here


[24-Feb-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any time something goes bad in South America, it was wild capitalism


[24-Feb-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the government is causing all sorts of chaos leading to problems distributing food, blame the markets where the food is, and say they were actually controlled by the US or corporatists or something


[24-Feb-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Works every time, guaranteed


[24-Feb-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You not only deflect all criticism of your fascist bullshit, but you also rally people against the white devil with and its tempting money.


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
The point is, you don't get to decide what the people want


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Keep your weapons the fuck out


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Let them decide


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
>let the people decide


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's literally what I'm saying


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
You seriously think the people can't do anything?


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the legislature they elected was completely worked around by a dictator


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the legislature then put in place a new guy


[24-Feb-19 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Actually the constitution hasn't been violated there


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
>IF YOU SUPPORT NEW GUY YOU ARE NOT LETTING PEOPLE DECIDE etc. etc.


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A quite shitty and unskilled dictator, if that's the case


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
The new people were there because of fraud on the opposition's part


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I love the excuses of fascists.


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Implying this wouldn't happen when the opposition boycotts the elections


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gee, who would have figured.


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just let the country go fascist on its own guys


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
The opposition literally boycotted the democratic elections and told the UN to not send any watchers


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Gee


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
how dare you try to stop it from being hugely corrupt


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
What could possibly go wrong


[24-Feb-19 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Misinformation?


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta also completely blame the opposition when power is grabbed


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When the opposition boycotts


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Couldn't be what the opposition intended


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casue the ruling party can do no wrong


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not at all


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie the moment the USA sets its foot and paws on Venezuela, they WILL be aiming for its oil


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
>UN sends watchers anyways


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what's funny is


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stop ignoring the facts in your face


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Come back saying besides the boycott, all is good.


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US found oil next to Venezuela


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro is a fuck up but that does not excuse shooting up the place


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
in territory of another country


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
And invading


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
And it's naieve


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Venezuela has always claimed that territory on the grounds of "it fukking looks nice fukk you"


[24-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Have you hard what happened to Nicaragua


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so Venezuela sent ships out to force Exxon away


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
?


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
Chile?


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
How is this magically different?


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US doesn't need Venezuelan oil


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
How is this special?


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie, i do appreciate that you're generally on our side, but sometimes your beliefs are just inconsistent


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it needs the oil Venezuela can't really stop it from getting


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>our side


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
How are you pro the US Definitely making shit worse


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I don't think the US is any special goody two-shoes


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's some pretty shitty talk


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is a horrible corrupt mess


[24-Feb-19 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When every NeoCon ever is saying, "Yeah, US oil companies deserve the rights to Venezuelan oil"


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not supporting the government, I'm simply stating the facts.


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
They made lots of shitty economic decisions and it's biting them in the ass


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sometimes it does good things and it has no need to grab up Venezeula's anything right now


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
But that doesn't mean they weren't voted in at all


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is Nebbie going to the block like Elliot Abrams?


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
And that the opposition didn't boycott elections on purpose.


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One of Trump's secretaries literally said they want to invade Venezuela for the oil


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Straight that


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
That doesn't change what words mean and what happened.


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, they must be pretty dumb then


[24-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
What's happening is bad


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-oil-eia/in-major-shift-us-now-exports-more-oil-than-it-ships-in-idUSKBN1O51X7

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-oil-eia/in-major-shift-us-now-exports-more-oil-than-it-ships-in-idUSKBN1O51X7
In major shift, U.S. now exports more oil than it ships in
The United States last week exported more crude oil and fuel than it imported fo...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181206&t=2&i=1332471170&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEEB51HC


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the time they'd get the oil, it'd be very costly to develop


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
But it isn't because of lack of democracy magically


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
the US doesn't need oil from other countries anymore btw


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's people being sociopathic morons isn't news


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oil is stored in the ground


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's also probably MORE oil where Exxon was looking


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pee is stored in the balls


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two truths


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>implying the sociopathic morons in charge of the US have no say over the country's foreign policy


[24-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But eh, gotta get a diplomatic win I guess


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's because of poor planning and shitty framework left in by the previous government that went far too easily on the capitalists and thus the hyper rich are totally fine and dictate whether the poor starve and own the corn flour that is a staple


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
And the economy is largely private


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not even socialist, it's badly trying to be


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the police are corrupt, criminals aren't so bad


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
But the capitalists own 70% at least of the means of production


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Soo


[24-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care what it's trying to be


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's become a dictatorship


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
starving its own people and trying to undermine legitimate governance


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Send in the troops.


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not any more than any other South American nation


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>send in the troops


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
The 'legitimate govenrnence' literally undermined itself tho


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
By boycotting elections it could have won in


[24-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd say send in the *UN* troops


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's a nice documentary


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the UN is crippled constantly


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
On what UN TROOPS did to haiti


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Needless to say it makes the US look reasonable


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So there's not really any neutral force right now that just wants to actually help the place


[24-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's long-term plan has already paid off


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway my hands are fucking sore and badger knows what's up


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Thanks RSI


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Use Dvorak


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
I really need to


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or COLEMAK


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
But this is my phone soo


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Can't be helped


[24-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
or as it'd be by transcribing QWERTY, "<>PYF


[24-Feb-19 04:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, I don't think maduro is intentionally starving his people, given his governments actions subsidize food and provide healthcare, education, ect


[24-Feb-19 04:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
So it's more or less an economic fuckup situation


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie, i have a friend in the US navy and he openly states that he does not want a war with Venezuela. While there might be the possibility of a more bloodless coup, there's also chance that the Chavist military elite will not budge, and a protracted war will happen if it doesn't


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
That the US made worse through sanctions


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin was a good guy, guys, he contributed to the sciences and provided grain to people


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Strawman


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same line of reasoning


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
If the people have a people's war, that's fine


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm fine with the people fighting for what they believe in


[24-Feb-19 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
But not US interests


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if they believe in US interests?


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far, a few polls state that the majority of Venezuelans, despite their dislike for Maduro, want the US out of the country. It's been a sore point in Guaidó's recent popularity, and he has tried to repeatedly deny sponsorship from the yanks


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
Doubt.jpg


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
nobody wants a foreign country in their country


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's not special


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's pretty much universal


[24-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what if they believe in, like, basic freedoms and rights and just are annoyed by the US troops being US?


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What basic freedoms and rights?


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would you rather: A -> a proper civil war with hundreds of thousands dead
Or B -> THE WEST intervenes, few die, but /capitalism/ wins


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
the right to not starve to death


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
the right to not live out on the streets


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 "capitalism kills more in the long run"


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right to peaceful assembly is actually a pretty big deal btw


[24-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right behind freedom of speech itself


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie, you just said you believe in freedom of speech


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So why did you deny the wish to watch Dissociativity's video


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Which is independent journalism


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the dumbest thing I've read today


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not some commie video


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's been a long day


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
>right to say whatever you want actually means right to force your ideas into other people's heads because UR RIGHT ALWAYS etc.


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Legit it's not, it offers a nuanced take


[24-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice meme


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's balanced media


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>force ideas into people's heads


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Honahue#0656
The US doesn't even give it's own citizens the right to not starve or live on the street


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
Shows people that disagree with maduro there and everything


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
^


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are you not watching the Twilight saga


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You censorship happy fascist


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US hasn't fulfilled all its moral duties


[24-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means nobody has moral duties anymore!


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, do you ever look at the internal politics of the US?


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left is CONSTANTLY


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You could be reading Breitbart right now, but I guess you hate freedom of speech


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
asking that we feed the starving and deal with homelessness


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And get medicare for all


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
constatly


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are FURIOUS about senators who stop medicare for all


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
the last year or so


[24-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a big deal when Bernie was running 2+ years ago


[24-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
and most establishment Dems are against both


[24-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it has been talked of long before that


[24-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[24-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do we hav to giv up fighting for what's right because there are people stopping us from getting it yet here?


[24-Feb-19 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd support an invasion of Venezuela if it isn't during Trump's presidency tbh, but still, not even having Bernie on top is a guarantee of 100% orderly conduct


[24-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why must we say "my room isn't clean because my roommate won't let me clean it, so I should not go and drain the water out of my flooded neighbor's house"?


[24-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean technically leftists have been saying that for at least 100 years but it's definatly not been an American left policy til recently


[24-Feb-19 04:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wow, just ignore facts and logic and real life videos of the country we're talking about because Washington Post say vuvuziala bad


[24-Feb-19 04:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not a pro maduro or leftist channel


[24-Feb-19 04:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's just actual journalism


[24-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am sikk and tired of how the right's only argument is that because we are not pure and clean, we shouldn't do anything and just let everything rot.


[24-Feb-19 04:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, the same shit we are spewing about right now happened sixteen years ago with Saddam Hussein and Iraq


[24-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
America brings a lot of baggage with it when it trys to do foriegn aid


[24-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
namely usually we've done it to install a Banana Republic or similar


[24-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I want us to fix Iraq's infrastructure instead of just bombing it to get more dead terrorists


[24-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
so it's undertandable that people would rather sort it out themselves then get our aid


[24-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but everyone insists either stay or pull out


[24-Feb-19 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie problem here is, imo, a problem of trust


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody can be trusted.


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Honahue#0656
okay, but America still has that baggage because the people sending the aid are all shit bags


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's *aid*


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe if America had a different government it would be actual aid


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USA has consistently proven itself to be an empire operating by macchiavellian means, so... does the argument that "it won't do it this time" hold any water?


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you see someone pulling a Russia with a trukk that comes in empty and returns full, it should generally not be treated as the devil.


[24-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, the US has a more consistent track record of just kicking out the democratically elected government and leaving without even trying to prop up a new government


[24-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
which usually has the side effect of letting a big totalitarian guy take over after half the population dies in a 8 way civil war


[24-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656
America destablizes African clothing manufacturers in the name of aid because it's easier for companies to print both winner shirt for the Super Bowl and send the loser ones to Africa


[24-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656
our aid isn't always aid


[24-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, refusing aid just because you don't want to look weak is incredibly petty


[24-Feb-19 04:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Implying the aid wouldn't just go to the fake president's boye


[24-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's why they're trying to deliver the aid to the legislative dude iirc


[24-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
which is also being used to attack him because he's taking aid from the US


[24-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he meant the legislature's choice is the fake president


[24-Feb-19 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way, i still think Maduro should have just accepted the aid, he's poked the sleeping dragon in just the stupidest way


[24-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the basic dictatorial approach


[24-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you accept help, you look weak


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if people aren't starving, they're more likely to be able to think politically and overthrow you


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does it work that way or the other way


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
because maduro and his court are the ones who have been exploiting the common people by using their arbitray 10/1 currency to USD conversion to then sell at vastly inflated prices to the common people who don't have access to that conversion


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works that way.


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because starving masses also led to the French Revolution


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA
The collapse of Venezuela, explained
The country is in chaos, but its leaders aren't going anywhere. Correction at 1:58: It’s been brought to our notice that the Supreme Court tried to strip the...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S1gUR8wM5vA/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure you understand how social unrest works related to food, Nebbie


[24-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feeding everyone and making them happy leads to them demanding complex social programs.


[24-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dictators want a simmering level of unrest


[24-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way people's demands are easily-dismissed bullshit and they fight each other, unable to organize


[24-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can then steamroll them with the military as needed


[24-Feb-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, specific systems of either liberating or alienating *education* lead to either a brainwashed or conscious mass, not giving food to the populace is just a guarantee that you'll be toppled


[24-Feb-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This has been the norm for various historical events


[24-Feb-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
1789, 1848...


[24-Feb-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dictators have to keep the population fed to at least an acceptable level in order to legitimize their power. If they can't effectively hide the instances of people in their country starving, their rule becomes fickle.


[24-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a saying in politics that you're only ever 9 meals away from a revolution


[24-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
dictators demonize others they don't starve their own people


[24-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
another way is to blame their starvation on others as well


[24-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure that's what the nazis did with the jews


[24-Feb-19 04:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
No the Nazis just did it


[24-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I assume you mean when the Nazi's were starting a revolution they blamed the Jews for peoples hungers which should prove the point that revolution is only a few meals away


[24-Feb-19 04:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
If they didn't do it, someone else would. That was their logic.


[24-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Honahue#0656
when the Nazi's then starved the Jews they were just killing them and using them as slave labor but you can't do that tho the whole country


[24-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't think it's impossible for dictators to turn peoples' hunger to their advantage


[24-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, the nazis had robust social programs, but they were all funded by stuff taken from people sent to the concentration camps


[24-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Blame shortages on dirty capitalists, appear a hero when you show up with bread and rice


[24-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Honahue#0656
even then the Nazi's wheren't like a populus revolution they got in power through some weird tricks


[24-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone does it no matter what the crisis


[24-Feb-19 04:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-19/the-manhattan-of-venezuela-parties-against-a-backdrop-of-crisis


[24-Feb-19 04:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
🤔


[24-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What matters more, political ideals or that your 6yo child is starving to death?


[24-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
That luxury is enjoyed mainly by those who have access to hard U.S. currency. More than a decade of stringent controls engendered a thriving black market for dollars, which trade for hundreds of times their official worth. Many citizens have greenbacks squirreled away from flusher times, and some multinational companies pay in hard currency. Other Venezuelans have plum contracts with the government that allow them access to dollars.


[24-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, so you need access to a black market of US currency in order to obliterate how bad things are getting from your mind every night


[24-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
and that article is from a year and a half ago, so they're probably out of money by now


[24-Feb-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Curious though, how in the face of no food a portion of the population against the regime was still able to not only eat, but celebrate.


[24-Feb-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's like they possibly held it all.


[24-Feb-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
But now the jig is up


[24-Feb-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it's time to leave to their second homes in Miami.


[24-Feb-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, the only people benefitting from that money are the people in charge <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA&t=272>


[24-Feb-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
that video is from a month after that article, so it's in the same time period


[24-Feb-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think anyone claimed there wasn't any food in the country


[24-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
there's food, but at ludicrous prices that're only available to people with access to US currency


[24-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
so there was never any "jig" to be up to begin with


[24-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
there were food shortages during the great depression as well, but the food was still there


[24-Feb-19 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've said this before:
The Maduro and previous governments controlled food prices.
This kept them low so that people can actually afford them.
The capitalists did now want to sell at these low prices.
As a result lots of things are at higher prices on the black market because it's profitable or exported.

The crisis in food is artificial, the resources exist, they are just being mis-allocated.


[24-Feb-19 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
The food price control is one actually good thing the government did.
As much as they economically fucked up you can't argue it wasn't a good idea, they just needed more consequences for those that refused to sell their stocks locally because it's 'not profitable'


[24-Feb-19 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
The government not forcing themselves to eat bread and rice is a moral issue, not an actual issue with them.


[24-Feb-19 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Keeping prices high just meant more was in supermarkets, not less people were starving


[24-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
... you realize it's literally maduro and his camp shitting up the prices, right?


[24-Feb-19 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
His government put legislation in to lower the food prices as far as I'm aware?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/venezuela-decrees-new-price-controls-to-fight-inflation-idUSBREA0N1GL20140124

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/venezuela-decrees-new-price-controls-to-fight-inflation-idUSBREA0N1GL20140124
Venezuela decrees new price controls to fight inflation
Venezuela on Friday decreed a new price control law that sets limits on company ...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140124&t=2&i=832355616&w=1200&r=CBREA0N1F7G00


[24-Feb-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
that article's way back in 2014, it obviously didn't work


[24-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally his camp profiting off of the massive inflation


[24-Feb-19 06:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
'It sets a maximum profit margin of 30% and requires firms to obtain "fair price certificates" to access dollars through the country's currency control mechanism


[24-Feb-19 06:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
As far as I'm aware this legislation is still in place


[24-Feb-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
none of this proves that he and his camp aren't profiting massively off of the black market for US currency


[24-Feb-19 06:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
Selling food on the black market obviously avoids this and allows one to profit above 30%


[24-Feb-19 06:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
What proves he is profiting massively off of it?
I hadn't actually heard this one? Does he buy USD through the state and sell it through the black market? Lmao


[24-Feb-19 06:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cus the black market rates are far higher


[24-Feb-19 06:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
So a bunch of people in the black market make a shittone through it


[24-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gUR8wM5vA&t=272>


[24-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
the people making the money are the people in maduro's camp


[24-Feb-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
and maduro himself


[24-Feb-19 06:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like I've heard the 'reeee his daughter is rich' shit before


[24-Feb-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's not "reeee his daughter is rich", it's "wtf his military leaders and advisors are gouging their own people"


[24-Feb-19 06:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
So is there proof of actual transaction receipts of anyone accepting the 10:1 rate?


[24-Feb-19 06:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cus to me it seems pretty insane to actually buy the currency at this rate, why would someone sell their USD for that rate?


[24-Feb-19 06:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like I understand this rate exists in theory


[24-Feb-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
the venezuelan military is the one in charge of importing food, and they import it at the rate of 10 bolivars to $1 USD, while the people are forced to use the actual value of 12,000 bolivars to $1 USD


[24-Feb-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
so if a burger costs $5, then it costs 50 bolivars for the venezuelan military to import, and they can then sell that burger for 60,000 bolivars to the venezuelan people


[24-Feb-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
so the venezuelan military is making a profit of $6,000 for literally nothing


[24-Feb-19 06:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's no source on the 10:1 rate


[24-Feb-19 06:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
On the vid


[24-Feb-19 06:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's only a source for the market value


[24-Feb-19 06:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
The numbers on the market value are solid and there's even spreadsheets tho


[24-Feb-19 06:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
But we already know about the inflation


[24-Feb-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/venezuela-announces-99-6-percent-devaluation-of-official-forex-rate-idUSKBN1FP2WK

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/venezuela-announces-99-6-percent-devaluation-of-official-forex-rate-idUSKBN1FP2WK
Venezuela announces 99.6 percent devaluation of official forex rate
Venezuela's central bank on Monday announced a devaluation of more than 99 ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20180205&t=2&i=1228554292&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEE141OJ


[24-Feb-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
that 10-to-1 currency exchange rate was eliminated about 4 months after that video was posted


[24-Feb-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
this was when they were trying to cheese the exchange rates by releasing the larger denomination bills


[24-Feb-19 06:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
The government has repeatedly created foreign exchange mechanisms similar to DICOM, but business leaders say they never provided a steady supply of hard currency.

The government would repeatedly end up shuttering the foreign exchange platforms in part because maintaining an exchange rate so divergent from the black market rate proved to be unsustainable.


[24-Feb-19 06:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Doesn't really sound like they could've made all that much of it constantly totally dried up


[24-Feb-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
they changed the exchange rate from 10 bolivars to 1 USD to 25,000 bolivars per 1 USD


[24-Feb-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
but the black market exchange rate is still 228,000 bolivars per 1 USD


[24-Feb-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
at the time


[24-Feb-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
which is even worse than what the video had


[24-Feb-19 06:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
So again my question is did any real amount of money actually pass through hands at the 10:1 rate?


[24-Feb-19 06:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or was it just basically a fake number that the government put there to make their currency look better?


[24-Feb-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
of course, even if you had the least corrupt people in charge ever, there'd be at least a few people skimming off the top


[24-Feb-19 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because it sounds pretty dumb to be someone trading and be like, I'm totally okay with being ripped off


[24-Feb-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
they have no choice


[24-Feb-19 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Give my USD away practically for free


[24-Feb-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The existence of such disparate exchange rates has for years encouraged Venezuelans to buy dollars on the cheap and flip them on the black market for a profit. That has created shortages of hard currency, which in turn fuels shortages of imported products such as food and medicine.


[24-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
they don't mean "shortage" as in "there's no food and medicine", but "shortage" as in "no one can afford the food and medicine"


[24-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
just like what happened during the great depression


[24-Feb-19 06:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
I understand what an economic fuck up all that is but it seems like speculation in terms of where any profits actually go given the legislation/laws his government put in it'd be pretty contradictory


[24-Feb-19 06:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
I just don't understand any dumbass actually giving away their USD for that rate trading


[24-Feb-19 06:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like why not just trade with Columbia its neighbour instead?


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
I understand the black market rate is fucked, the actual dollar rate is fucked too, cus inflation is fun


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
But like, whomst?


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would Columbia want bad money?


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
... people capable of doing so have been fleeing the country for over half a decade already


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
Who throwd away their usd?


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
no one wants to trade at those ridiculous rates


[24-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
but you don't have a choice if you have nowhere to flee


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wish there were numbers because it's such a redic predicament


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
there are numbers


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like a transaction log book


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
I linked numbers


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Of actual transactions


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not it was this value on this market


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
The actual trades that happened


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
... there's plenty of ways to extrapolate value without having the direct transactions


[24-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
which aren't even obtainable anyway, unless maduro's camp are just that stupid


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Is there numbers proving anyone actually used the 10:1 rate?


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Crow#5457
they'd guard that shit like state secrets


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or just that the rate apparently existed?


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
It just sounds so bizarro


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
eh sounds ok to me


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
To me it's like, okay, source says it exists.


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
soviet union had official rates on stuff like that


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cool


[24-Feb-19 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Doesn't say anyone used it?


[24-Feb-19 06:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just people laying blames and having emotional arguments in the video


[24-Feb-19 06:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
but on black market things goes hundreds percent up


[24-Feb-19 06:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
This is hundreds of thousands percent up tho


[24-Feb-19 06:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hence so bizzare


[24-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite normal with hyperinflation.


[24-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
same thing happened in both the great depression and germany's weimar republic


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
But we have solid numbers on those


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
though both of those times didn't have any economic manipulation on their respective countries' parts like what maduro's been doing in venezuela


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
what he's been doing would, if done in good faith, theoretically alleviate the problems they're having


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not saying I don't disbelieve it


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
he's not doing it in good faith


[24-Feb-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
he's doing it in order to be seen as doing something


[24-Feb-19 06:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
But it wouldn't make sense to be on the other side handing USD for that rate


[24-Feb-19 06:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Columbia offers to take em afaik


[24-Feb-19 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
But yeah, ultimately I'm just for a fair election without that US sponsored puppet but with everyone else


[24-Feb-19 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
And there's plenty of parties to represent people


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maduro won on the same % as Obama last time


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
but at a third of the turnout


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
So if people mad, they can vote next election, the starvation numbers aren't as bad the videos are saying


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's not the percentage he won at which matters, but the turnout


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Again, people boycotted because opposition was reeeing


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
So that's their fault


[24-Feb-19 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
If opposition didn't boycott it would've been totally fair


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
is there proof that guaido is a US puppet?


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
The money flowing in


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
The support by billionaires?


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
trump kind of stuck his dirty fingers into sort of co-opting him as being the "legitimate interim leader"


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
All of the rich want him in


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rly makes me think


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
People can vote? :GWcorbinTopKek:


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Literally anyone else


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Go vote


[24-Feb-19 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Gogogo


[24-Feb-19 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
The US could pressure for a fair election if they wanted to


[24-Feb-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
what vote? the next vote is in 5 years


[24-Feb-19 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
There's no reason they don't have the threat power to do that


[24-Feb-19 06:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Dude voting system is fuckin broken in authoritarian countries


[24-Feb-19 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
But they're afraid maduro will be voted in? Idk dude?


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
With UN observation


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like all of the ones that were declared fair there?


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
they're burning the aid now


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
they're burning food and medicine


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Unfair elections are a new thing at least given the records we have


[24-Feb-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
for no other reason than to accept it would be admitting there's a problem


[24-Feb-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no

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VOA News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no
Trucks Loaded With Aid Set On Fire at Venezuela-Colombia Border
One truck in a convoy attempting to bring humanitarian aid into Venezuela from Colombia went up in flames on Saturday, Feb. 23, sending plumes of dark smoke ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nZgQEZqq3no/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
if there wasn't a problem, there'd be no reason to burn it


[24-Feb-19 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
To be fair the opposition was doing the same thing before lmao, which is why I said a re-election would be nice


[24-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
but the fact that it's there means that someone might be able to sneak some through


[24-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
so they have to burn it in order to prevent any aid from reaching their people


[24-Feb-19 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hell, even have both barred from participating, but the US isn't going to suggest actual democracy, they're just going to commit more war crimes if the past century in central and southern America is to be believed


[24-Feb-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny thing tho is they did that by propping up people like Maduro and providing financial support for murdering leftists


[24-Feb-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now suddenly when they try to do the opposite, they're accused of doing the same.


[24-Feb-19 07:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
What right does the US have in even criticizing how other nations do their thing?


[24-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
"stay in your lane" etc


[24-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That of not being amoral isolationist asshats who think starving and dying people should be treated with closing the blinds.


[24-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
you could tell literally anyone who isn't you to "stay in their lane" when they say something you're doing is wrong


[24-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
there has to be some point at which there's a collective agreement that things are going wrong


[24-Feb-19 07:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
I love how this is the focus of the world when worse shit is going on and we're just like okay, lalalalalala


[24-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but muh Kantianism and sovereignty


[24-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some very bad shit is going on, but try to go into Libya and it'll be the same argument against it


[24-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that Libya's sovereignty's being violated or some crap


[24-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then of course authoritarians over in Italy etc., who are among those that love Maduro, will tell you the solution is to close the borders and look the other way as they make sure Libya keeps people from escaping the rape and slavery.


[24-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
no one is willing to fix anything because it costs too much money and might step on some peoples' toes


[24-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
the permanent UN security council members were a mistake


[24-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I guess because the fascists prevent us from stopping the modern slave trade, and it's worse than Maduro, we shouldn't do anything!


[24-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
a massive mistake


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's all sit bakk and eat doritos guys


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or maybe, we could actually try to fix something going wrong


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
the permanent members just keep vetoing everything when people bring up stuff to fix the problems


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and keep doing this, one problem at a time


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
except the right hates that


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it leads to spreading acceptance of other cultures


[24-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and connections between them that break down the barriers


[24-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately leading to a situation where the UN can tell you to not starve your own people or deny them rights


[24-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is fundamentally counter to right wing ideology.


[24-Feb-19 07:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
How are we to trust even doing this "right" when all our democratization efforts in the current era have been emmense moral failures? We facilitate open air slave markets in Libya when we supported rebels in deposing Gadaffi... For what? Because he was too openly acting like the Saudis or because Gadaffi never got the fervor with the media as the Saudis have?


[24-Feb-19 07:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or the eternal war that is Afghanistan. Or the epic failure moment of Iraq post-war.


[24-Feb-19 07:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
When we move in to basically delete all the institutions of another country, how is it going to be better?


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The perpetual problem is an unwillingness to commit


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
going in, blowing shit up, and leaving leaves it up largely to chance that someone fixes things.


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
this is why I say the permanent members of the UN security council were a mistake


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't go in.


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
If it's truely a struggle of the people of Venezula, let it be theirs. Don't put us in another fucking war that we'll non-commit to in two or three years.


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
all the politics centered around the US, russia, and china


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
The planet is burning


[24-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just means we need to stop the whole leaving early bit.


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what the UN is supposed to be for


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
to actually commit to things and fix them.


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not really profitable


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does that to some extent in places like Africa


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the presence of UN peacekeepers does reduce conflicts flaring bakk up.


[24-Feb-19 07:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Billionaires can afford to solve world hunger.
But they don't.


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then take their money away from them.


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forcefully.


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Why then do you think foreign aid charity that gives people food n shit is going to solve the problem without giving them the means to actually farm on their own n stuff


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Well, I don't know if you think that


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some charity does giv them the means


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
what if they hire your military out from under you


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are organizations that go around teaching people


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
But Africa is given 'stuff', but billions is made from it


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Way more money comes out than in


[24-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of them teaches women in communities to be solar panel engineers


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
And we still get fuckers complaining about foreign aid


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's also one laptop per child


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
which has the goal of making sure the next generation all hav interenet access across Africa


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Which often actually fucks the local economy, still being capitalist and needing profits.


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Some are actually useful and provides means


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
which makes it much easier for those kids to develop job skills and bring themselves out of poverty


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Most don't.


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
there's also bitcoin mining which consumes enought energy to negate the savings we got from solar


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a comprehensive approach to fix these problems.


[24-Feb-19 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
bitcoin mining needs to die


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
State mandated computer wattage cap


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
You literally don't need 5 vegas


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or 1080tis


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's an even worse system than the arbitrary "this currency has value because we say it has value"


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Needing tons of processing to validate transactions was a bad idea.


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
digital currency yes, cryptocurrency no


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's let's rape the planet for profit without actually having to get up and make the profit lmao


[24-Feb-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Transaction validation should be super efficient, moreso than current banking.


[24-Feb-19 07:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just set it up and you have a means of production


[24-Feb-19 07:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just need the money to set it up


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool, we've gone from Venezuela to "the government should imprison people with too many graphics cards"


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something something anti-cap


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the constant South American meme


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that capitalism is to blame for everything


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
foreign aid not done right? Profit incentive did it


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
it unironically is


[24-Feb-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Planet warming? It was capitalism!


[24-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leftists gaining power? It was the US!


[24-Feb-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leftists getting crushed? It was also the US...except this one's actually true


[24-Feb-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone takes issue with me starving the leftists? Must be because I've got oil, why else would France side with the US but capitalism?


[24-Feb-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism in excess is a very bad thing, but it usually just makes existing problems worse.


[24-Feb-19 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
capitalism by design tends towards excess


[24-Feb-19 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
then it fails when it can't any more


[24-Feb-19 07:27 AM] Honahue#0656
repeat


[24-Feb-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to limit the ability of those with tons of power from concentrating that power.


[24-Feb-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
People tend to try to do so in any system.


[24-Feb-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once it's concentrated with them, they ruin things for others


[24-Feb-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
whether they are owners of corporations, members of a communist party, feudal lords, etc.


[24-Feb-19 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's why people want to do away with capitalism because it always by design ends up with people in power


[24-Feb-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
you don't understand, all human-made systems by design end up with people in power


[24-Feb-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
humans crave power, no matter how much they say they don't want it


[24-Feb-19 07:29 AM] Honahue#0656
you can have horizontal heirarchies


[24-Feb-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
yes, but they don't stay horizontal is the problem


[24-Feb-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
and if that is the case then humanity is a mistake


[24-Feb-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
you just came to the conclusion I came to 10 years ago lol


[24-Feb-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
bruh


[24-Feb-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
I've been having this existental crisis from the 8th grade


[24-Feb-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, mine was in 10th grade, which is 10 years ago


[24-Feb-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
it's only gotten worse since


[24-Feb-19 07:32 AM] Honahue#0656
thing is I don't think it is inherient to humanity to do that because it isn't true for every culture


[24-Feb-19 07:32 AM] Honahue#0656
it was a dominate stratagy and other cultures then followed suit like good like game theory


[24-Feb-19 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
but the prisoners betraying each other isn't the best outcome and even in those AI prisoner dilemma competitions the new meta is literally figuring out if the other AI is one of your team then working together


[24-Feb-19 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
it's like cooperation and communication are best for everyone


[24-Feb-19 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
but it benifits capitalist to atomized the prolitarite


[24-Feb-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
but how do you get global cooperation and communication in such a way that everyone agrees with it?


[24-Feb-19 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
question of the ages


[24-Feb-19 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
but meeting peoples material needs is a start


[24-Feb-19 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
not tying people's self worth to a bank account


[24-Feb-19 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
or productive ablity


[24-Feb-19 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
you know cause humans aren't robots


[24-Feb-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
the US's solution is unilateral action, the UN's solution is to twiddle its thumbs, the EU's solution is to puff itself up and act like it does anything, all of them are horribly wrong


[24-Feb-19 07:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is antithetical to western capitalism, because it must always grow and generate value numbers for the people in control. Even if the US is in the top spot on oil right now, it can't hurt Shell to become even bigger producers by attacking the next largest producer in the Americas.


[24-Feb-19 07:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
Reminder that hyooman nature isn't a real argument for literally anything.


[24-Feb-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
all of the big oil companies are looking to all the shit being revealed in siberia due to the warming climate


[24-Feb-19 07:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's long game, not short game. Short game is all that matters. Venezuela is short game.


[24-Feb-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
I forget which company, but a big western raw materials corporation is head over heels trying to get in bed with putin in order to get first dibs


[24-Feb-19 07:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you can take their oil in two years, it's eight years shorter than waiting for the ice to roll back in the Arctic.


[24-Feb-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
taking their oil in two years makes the ice roll back faster too


[24-Feb-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
maybe in only 79 years instead of 80 years, but yeah


[24-Feb-19 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
we're going to need oil anyway but burning it is it's least useful property


[24-Feb-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU0RqwweuWY

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU0RqwweuWY
Why Colombia has taken in 1 million Venezuelans
The border of unity. Follow the Vox Borders watch page: https://www.facebook.com/VoxBorders/ Follow Johnny on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnnywhar...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NU0RqwweuWY/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
they're making purses out of bolivars


[24-Feb-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
that's how valueless their currency is


[24-Feb-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
a hotdog in colombia is a month's salary in venezuelan bolivars


[24-Feb-19 08:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well gee, should have let Venezuela take their gold back, UK.


[24-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But why would they need gold


[24-Feb-19 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because they had it in reserve in the UK, but the British banks waffled. So now since it's not in the country to shore things up, it can only get worse.


[24-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the reason why the colombians are accepting venezuelans so openly is because venezuela did the same thing for the colombians during a decades-long war with a rebel group


[24-Feb-19 08:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That doesn't answer the question


[24-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why would they need gold


[24-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or any "foreign-valued" money at all


[24-Feb-19 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-21/citigroup-huddles-with-treasury-before-maduro-gold-deal-expires


[24-Feb-19 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have farms and factories and mines and forests and workers


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything they need for self sustenance


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should be a paradise


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can't do it when you're sanctioned to hell.


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But why


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because US economic warfare


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[24-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why do they need foreign /anything/


[24-Feb-19 08:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's not, as I understand it. It's theirs. Which they deposited.


[24-Feb-19 08:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, but its only value is towards foreigners


[24-Feb-19 08:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the system is so good, they should be able to erect a mile high wall around themselves and live in perfect harmony and prosperity


[24-Feb-19 08:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Venezuela had been selling their gold last year to keep things afloat when oil was down. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-06/maduro-sold-40-of-venezuela-s-gold-last-year-amid-cash-crunch


[24-Feb-19 08:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But they shouldn't have to depend on selling oil


[24-Feb-19 08:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have all these workers and farmland and natural resources


[24-Feb-19 08:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know where you got that from, but K


[24-Feb-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's like global trade networks aren't a necessity I guess. Nor do they exist.


[24-Feb-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or you have a 70% private sector that was still doing foreign deals.


[24-Feb-19 08:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
So foreign financial deals and swings would have been necessary to keep the Venezuelan bank stocked so as to supply loans or whatever the private sector needed.


[24-Feb-19 08:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or to try and jump start the actually self sufficient Communes started under Chavez.


[24-Feb-19 08:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Plus that oil needed to be sold in the first place to fund Venezuela's welfare state, y'know: like Norway did


[24-Feb-19 08:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they could have near-total literacy and almost non-existent homelessness.


[24-Feb-19 08:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Programs you don't get over night by simply cycling the economy through itself and not offering up product for capital on the international market since the country even before Chavez was an OPEC member anyways.


[24-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the main thing communist regimes like to do


[24-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to sell their food, even when they barely hav enuff for their own people


[24-Feb-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia and China both caused famines on purpose in order to sell at low prices to other countries to butter them up diplomatically


[24-Feb-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you control resources like that at the state level, you can abuse them to screw over your own people to curry favor elsewhere.


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not much different with oil.


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, you can't eat oil


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you can undersell it


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and do similar with other resources because lol the oil sales will cover it


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
until they don't because the price dropped


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
>70% privately owned industry is communism


[24-Feb-19 08:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
T H E    A B S O L U T E    S T A T E


[24-Feb-19 08:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
WITHER NORWAY AND SWEDEN


[24-Feb-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR was socialist


[24-Feb-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what you call shitty authoritarian regimes


[24-Feb-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will find a way to abuse sale of their resources.


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
china was socialist, but is now some kind of weird amalgamation of socialism and corporate capitalism


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they only own a quarter of said resources.


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
A quarter is *a lot*.


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, this is why centralized socialism a shit


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
A quarter of a quarter can be the difference between a famine and business as usual.


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if you can do socialism like the US does states


[24-Feb-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when once it starts, it spirals out of control.


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
China is one of the most capitalist states on the planet


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
with democratically elected socialist provinces which then democratically elect certain provinces to lead for x amount of years


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
China is whatever fits its current horrible ideals.


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It being communust is a meme both sides play for propaganda


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same with Russia


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The one standard it has is single party system


[24-Feb-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
All systems are abusable unless you design them thoroughly to stop abuse.


[24-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, have any decentralized versions of socialism like the one I described been attempted?


[24-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia didn't stop being an authoritarian mess that screws over its people to curry favor while gaming the west with crazy intel.


[24-Feb-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just now can do it more efficiently by buying stakes in companies and such.


[24-Feb-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same applies to China, except it's less about intelligence and diplomacy and more about economic power to influence.


[24-Feb-19 08:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean Spanish Syndicalists got BTFOd by Stalinists
Stalinists liked to destroy less auth socialist projects and force them along their line


[24-Feb-19 08:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
The issue with socialist projects is they have always had outside forces wanting and trying to fuck them over


[24-Feb-19 08:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
There has never been any that have had the chance to bloom unaposed, and with every countermeasure, any ideology can become more auth


[24-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism is a little faster to become authoritarian because it tends to only be doable when forced by a gov't, I think


[24-Feb-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really get everyone to do their local community whatever the fukks because it's not in their personal interests to do so.


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Let's be very political


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where'd you get that? From Wikipedia?


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need an outside thing forcing them, and the gov't is the perfect fit.


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Coops exist


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"exist" by how much?


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why on Earth straight people use the word gay as a joke


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, to get them all across a nation


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nations are overly large


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.worldwatch.org/membership-co-operative-businesses-reaches-1-billion-0


[24-Feb-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it used to be an insult because normies use non-normie things as insults.


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but something like capitalism can take over a nation on its own.


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In my opinion, it still sounds homophobic to me if a straight person is doing it


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
ocean spray is a farmer's coop


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it provides incentive to switch from most other systems.


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
credit unions are basically bank coops


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't gonna get anarcho socialism on a mass scale.


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_union

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Credit union
A credit union is a member-owned financial cooperative, controlled by its members and operated on the principle of people helping people, providing its members credit at competitive rates as well as other financial services.Worldwide, credit union systems vary significantly i...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/CoastalFederalCreditUnion-CreedmoorBranch.jpg


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yet I've never heard about them respecting the gays


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jackie, it's sarcastic.


[24-Feb-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

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Cooperative
A cooperative (also known as co-operative, co-op, or coop) is "an autonomous association of persons united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically-controlled enterprise". Cooperatives may...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/OSG_Co-op_AGM_20050423.jpg/1200px-OSG_Co-op_AGM_20050423.jpg


[24-Feb-19 08:56 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That actually doesn't answers why they need to say


[24-Feb-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
"In a 2007 study by the World Council of Credit Unions, the 5-year survival rate of cooperatives in the United States was found to be 90% in comparison to 3-5% for traditional businesses. 
Credit unions, a type of cooperative bank, had five times lower failure rate than other banks during the financial crisis and more than doubled lending to small businesses between 2008 - 2016, from $30 billion to $60 billion, while lending to small businesses overall during the same period declined by around $100 billion. 
Public trust in credit unions stands at 60%, compared to 30% for big banks and small businesses are five times less likely to be dissatisfied with a credit union than with a big bank."


[24-Feb-19 08:57 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If you're in my country, some people call cowards, in Tagalog, "bakla", which literally means "gay"


[24-Feb-19 08:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm moderately sure that happens in a lot of languages


[24-Feb-19 08:58 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's still sounds homophobic to say so


[24-Feb-19 08:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In spanish, calling someone gay (marica/marikita) isn't so much saying they're gay as much as that they're cowardly or weak


[24-Feb-19 08:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In a stereotypical sense to those who never embraced LGBT in my country, they say gay people are easily afraid


[24-Feb-19 08:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean you can coop your way to socialism


[24-Feb-19 09:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is why the "proper" term for gay these days in spanish is outright "gay", because it doesn't carry those meanings


[24-Feb-19 09:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Market socialism


[24-Feb-19 09:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So I have many questions to people using gay as a joke


[24-Feb-19 09:01 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's ironic if those people are actually homophobics or undecided whether they should respect them or not


[24-Feb-19 09:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
As an LGBT supporter, because of having gay and bisexual friends, I actually feel the struggle


[24-Feb-19 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying "gay" as an insult reeks of the 00s to me


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like saying "autistic" now


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Even though I'm straight, I think gay people should be treated equal.


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least autistic has inherent meaning


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Especially for this server


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being that it involves a defined set of behavior differences from normal.


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
gay means happy


[24-Feb-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
happy happy happy


[24-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The differences involved in being gay are so large, yet so shallow, that it's pointless.


[24-Feb-19 09:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I used to use "gay" as "lame" 10 years ago


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So, TSP, if you have a gay staff personnel


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Would you treat them equally?


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, that's ignoring what "lame" means etc


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd treat them the same as gingers tbh


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
As in if you find out that a moderator isn't straight


[24-Feb-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/431239-youtube-bans-anti-vaccination-videos-from-running-advertisements

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YouTube bans anti-vaccination videos from running advertisements
YouTube said Friday that it will ban channels that promote content that advocates against vaccinations from running advertisements.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/youtube_anti_vaccine_video.png


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can assure you all derpi moderators are 100% straight


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
sounds pretty gay tbh


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And do you allow non-straights?


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
.p ew gay


[24-Feb-19 09:07 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[24-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
ew exploitable


[24-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of the 5 "derpi OG founders crew", 2 are bi, one is trans, one is gay


[24-Feb-19 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pretty sure less than half of the current staff is even approaching "straight"


[24-Feb-19 09:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So pretty much a bi staff currently


[24-Feb-19 09:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, don't care tbh


[24-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bi is the eventual outcome when everyone bombards each other with porn of both genders.


[24-Feb-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, a lot of sexuality is determined by 16, but there's a bit of give, and if you even occasionally once a blue moon go the other way, you're bi.


[24-Feb-19 09:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I have the recent issue because I administer a matrix homeservers and 2/3rds are non-straight.


[24-Feb-19 09:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In administration and moderation.


[24-Feb-19 09:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm just seeing if a large community can accept equality


[24-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Large communities default to equality because it's harder to be a monoculture.


[24-Feb-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes great effort to separate into monocultures.


[24-Feb-19 09:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I just have the grudge of those who unequally treat moderators


[24-Feb-19 09:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And that should actually be a rule


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Idiots and bigots are everywhere.


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pay them little heed.


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Throw themout when possible.


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One important rule to never forget


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just because someone is special or sick or has some mental or environmental issue


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I just doubt that bigots should get a staff position


[24-Feb-19 09:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't mean they're less of a cunt


[24-Feb-19 09:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've seen numerous things similarly


[24-Feb-19 09:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If someone's out there being a turd and when confronted they go "oh I had a very rough day" or "I'm bipolar you have to accept me", nuke their asses


[24-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule #1 of human psychology


[24-Feb-19 09:18 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yeah and, would you allow those kinds of bigots here?


[24-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whatever you're moderating isn't a therapy group


[24-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Oh he has no reason to do that!" "Oh...I had a bad day."


[24-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the same action, stranger vs themselves.


[24-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-bias is an evolved behavior, people are cunts by default.


[24-Feb-19 09:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's totally different from a school shooter


[24-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many never evaluate how much of a cunt they're being.


[24-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is your job to force them to do so.


[24-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are definitely bigots here.


[24-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't get to spread whatever bigoted bullshit, generally.


[24-Feb-19 09:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What about those people who are trying to not be one


[24-Feb-19 09:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've been with unbigot people lately


[24-Feb-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@baxleyjames/the-homeless-are-lazy-bums-so-i-used-to-think-f911dedc4cc5

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1 out of 3 Americans are 1 Paycheck away from being Homeless
You see these people everyday: the homeless man with the shopping cart piled high with who-knows-what, the man who’s panhandling on the…
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*VBsQTopyuOTxeV0howhZPA.jpeg


[24-Feb-19 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
USA #1!!!!


[24-Feb-19 09:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Kyle BTFOd


[24-Feb-19 09:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
land of the free! woo


[24-Feb-19 09:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
free to live in a box that is


[24-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine if R Kelly was like, not rich


[24-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be pleading guilty right now cause all that missed work would mean homelessness


[24-Feb-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
he'd also hav no real lawyer


[24-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd ask for a plea deal and they'd say "nah" and throw the book at him, with an excessive punishment despite the plea


[24-Feb-19 09:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he might aso have gotten a judge being paid off by the private prison industry


[24-Feb-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and they'd do so even if he wasn't blakk, but cause he is, who knows, they might even do it despite him being rich)


[24-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hottest take I've seen so far is


[24-Feb-19 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Other countries can have good social programs only because they rely on the US for military protection"


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've heard that said unironically multiple times, in this channel, I think.


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
I've only seen it with the drive-by trolls


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that somehow there are constant...pirates or something and that the only thing stopping them is the US military


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
UK and France have nukes right


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're fine.


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do.


[24-Feb-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[24-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should respond with "good social programs prevent people turning to crime and villainy to begin with"


[24-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shhhh


[24-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but most of the alt right trolls will argue to the death that there's no way to stop crime


[24-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Raytheon will get mad


[24-Feb-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
that people are just born evil or something


[24-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
All this gun crime? Must be aliens.


[24-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta be aliens.


[24-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler was more fucked by college credit bureaucracy than any early on at least


[24-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively, they'll say "that won't work because that country has a different culture than us!"


[24-Feb-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
>said country is the UK


[24-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
>no other country has a similar problem in anywhere near similar circumstances


[24-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always say "Well if the US is so great if they decided they wanted to be an ideology they would make it work and make it work better"


[24-Feb-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of my favored responses is "well then we should change our culture"


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
alt right types go MAD when you tell them that culture isn't valuable and should be changed to fit societal concerns


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, what do they think that the left is trying to do


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes I think how beautiful it would have been if Carter won in 80


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, it confuses them because they'll think you're an SJUW that wants to value culture


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they value culture


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or just the culture of the late 70s living


[24-Feb-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
why? carter was a neolib


[24-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, to them you're some kind of _other_


[24-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just us, a bunch of Usonians using the Metric system


[24-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cthulu F'thagn etc.


[24-Feb-19 09:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Enjoying the ERA existing


[24-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Carter going on would've crushed social regressives


[24-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alt-right is usually gaming obsessed so I show them the latest anime visual novel and tell them the adults are talking now


[24-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would in turn open the door to stop neoliberalism


[24-Feb-19 09:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You can;t change culture, It's the *REAL* world. You just have to get used to it"


[24-Feb-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But but Its


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
loli is degeneracy


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the UN said so


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
- someone who opposes the UN all other times


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've actually told people to go to pornhub for 30 minutes and stop demanding shitty video games


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they got so pissed


[24-Feb-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, the latest thing is to get reaaaallly mad about loli/cub


[24-Feb-19 09:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's really dumb


[24-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember, they hate furries, and they hate gays but don't want to admit it, and they want to justify all that


[24-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they need something they aren't into to hate


[24-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
While quietly enjoying gay furry loli


[24-Feb-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a "but she's 14, not 12!" justification.


[24-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that average Japanese people hate anime producers for pushing loli but keep quiet because major cultural export is also attached to it


[24-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Average Japanese people hate, like, everything.


[24-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's part of their culture.


[24-Feb-19 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anime lobby is like the Japanese NRA


[24-Feb-19 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
japan is like one giant ball of wound up stress


[24-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, it's similar in that they're both major cultural traditions that a large portion hate


[24-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Porn is hated, anime is hated, foreigners are hated, technology is hated, work is hated, not working is hated


[24-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the end of the day


[24-Feb-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan ends up being a mix of everything it hates accepted out of grim pragmatism and an understanding that you can sukk it up and not be an asshole that ruins everyone's day just because you hate things.


[24-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also gaijin money.


[24-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is heretical to Americans.


[24-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the Olympics.


[24-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, foreigners.


[24-Feb-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American view is that if you hate things, you need to ruin someone else's day.


[24-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which has benefits, but also means Americans waste a LOT of time arguing about trivial bullshit and end up banning things that help society.


[24-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The alt right and SJUWs are basically this idea refined.


[24-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which culture is "don't actually hate these two people, just want to make sure both don't have a good day because I get off on that?"


[24-Feb-19 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Germans?


[24-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did coin the term for it, but I think that's actually Russia.


[24-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody actually cares about anything, but hurting others is a way to laff while drinking vodka.


[24-Feb-19 09:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it isn't frendschsmen


[24-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like, throwing a proverbial flare onto a tinder pile and watching the blaze


[24-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that I guess yeah


[24-Feb-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sounds like a Russian pastime.


[24-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the tider pile has to be something left by the soviets, not what you made yourself.


[24-Feb-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual work to create the setup? Someone else's job.


[24-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/GQgYOsT

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Maduro's regime burn humanitary aid
https://i.imgur.com/dRXKb7qh.jpg


[24-Feb-19 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
"Maduro's regime burn humanitary aid"


[24-Feb-19 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Feb-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
>"400+messages since your last visit"


[24-Feb-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141

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[24-Feb-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
pics what make you keep scrolling


[24-Feb-19 04:07 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article226687529.html

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Maduro calls Guaidó a puppet, mocks Trump and vows he’ll never ...
A defiant Nicolas Maduro spoke Saturday in Caracas, Venezuela. He vowed to never surrender, mocked interim president Juan Guaido, calling him a puppet of the White House, and denied a humanitarian crisis.
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[24-Feb-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-02-23-chinese-users-review-bomb-steam-horror-hit-devotion-over-xi-jinping-winnie-the-pooh-moron-meme

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Chinese users review-bomb Steam horror hit Devotion over Xi Jinpin...
Steam's latest hit is being review-bombed for referencing a meme directed at China president Xi Jinping.Devotion, a horror game developed by Taiwanese compa…
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[24-Feb-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk China.


[24-Feb-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shitty country with a weaponized populace.


[24-Feb-19 08:15 PM] Litrojia#0612
^^


[24-Feb-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy shit they're actually in the comments too


[24-Feb-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Somehow it got on why the Uighurs deserve it


[24-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Litrojia#0612
their government is the most ruthlessly totalitarian force in the world, and most times the populace just kinda falls in line


[24-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just spam Free Tibet and they get kicked offline


[24-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't July 4th Incident work better?


[24-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, but both work.


[24-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Use both


[24-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan figured this out


[24-Feb-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
July 4th Incident, Free Tibet


[24-Feb-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated note but my favorite YTer to cringe watch is a guy who ran a Nintendo channel until he got blacklisted by them for breaking a review embargo two weeks early so now he's super aggressively negative


[24-Feb-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And shitposts about Trump/has a pic of him in his weird "favorite characters" shrine


[24-Feb-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Half asses all of his videos and has a weird diaper fetish probably


[24-Feb-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying this because he was talking about the rumor of Google making a console and he basically bitched "reeeee people on the right get mistreated by them"


[24-Feb-19 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Cao nae ma is another good chinese way to avoid sensor ship, depending on the character or inflection it can mean fuck your mother or grass mud horse


[24-Feb-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
June 4*


[24-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.pcgamesn.com/metro-exodus/metro-exodus-steam-positive-review-bomb

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/metro-exodus/metro-exodus-steam-positive-review-bomb
The Metro Exodus Steam page is getting bombed… with positive reviews
Players are flocking to Steam to leave positive reviews for Metro Exodus, even though the game won't be available there for a year
https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Metro-Exodus-pc-review-14.jpg


[24-Feb-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This reminds me about that comic about getting your bike stolen


[24-Feb-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Steam reviews should be verified purchase only.


[24-Feb-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
This shit of people flooding when they didn't play the game is ridiculous.


[24-Feb-19 09:06 PM] ononim#8141
>Steam reviews should be verified purchase only.


[24-Feb-19 09:06 PM] ononim#8141
isn't it the case already?


[24-Feb-19 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
I thought so too


[24-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is gonna only get worse when the GoogleBox gets Cyberpunk 2077 as a timed exclusive


[24-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some are saying it Google gets involved with gaming they will push YT videos that don't have their consoles games down and I'm like


[24-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit


[24-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why wouldn't you do that


[24-Feb-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it does require it be in your account.


[24-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Uh


[24-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Mikey#7286
One


[24-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Mikey#7286
I've never heard of Googlebox


[24-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Two


[24-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Mikey#7286
If cyberpunk is exclusive to anything it'll be GoG Galaxy


[24-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Since y'know


[24-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Mikey#7286
GoG is owned by CDPR


[24-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Mikey#7286
And they wouldn't even do that


[24-Feb-19 10:00 PM] Mikey#7286
CDPR is one of the few who would tell epic or Activision to go fuck themselves if they were asked to do a timed exclusive deal


[24-Feb-19 10:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Why would they do timed exclusive on a platform with DRM


[24-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was a joke though Google is supposedly launching their own gaming box


[24-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[24-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
I thought you were serious


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Really though cdpr is the last developer who would do that


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-yeti-gaming-streaming-gdc-2019-957411/

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Scott Adam Gordon
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-yeti-gaming-streaming-gdc-2019-957411/
Google may show off its own games console at GDC 2019
The company is also tipped to show off its own controller as part of a video game streaming project codenamed Yeti.
https://cdn57.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/hey-google-assistant-okay-google-ces-2019-920x470.jpg


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That was also part of the joke


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Especially considering they self publish


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[24-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Why does every big company need to try to make a console


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Or their own game service


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
This will be as successful as Google+


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fortnite


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
I guarantee it


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah dude


[24-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Pay for exclusives


[24-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Bury any video on YT that doesn't show a game available on GoogleBox playing on it


[24-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[24-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Consumers will lose regardless


[24-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's zero reason a digital game should cost as much as a physical one


[24-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zero reason why games shouldn't be cheaper than ever given the new competition


[24-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zero reason for micro transactions


[24-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[24-Feb-19 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially micro transactiosn that force you to pay to continue the plot


[24-Feb-19 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One more thing Venezuela related


[24-Feb-19 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/30/elliott-abrams-venezuela-coup/

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Elliott Abrams, Trump’s Pick to Bring “Democracy” to Venezue...
The choice of Abrams sends a clear message: The Trump administration intends to brutalize Venezuela, while proclaiming our love for human rights.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2019/01/AP_19025792166077-ElliottAbrams-Trump-Venezuela-MikePompeo-1548865424-e1548865607971.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[24-Feb-19 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I sincerely hope this is a convincing argument that US intervention in Venezuela would obviously have strings attached, Nebbie


[24-Feb-19 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Clap for the killas


[24-Feb-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
I am director of human rights man | Being Democracy to Latin America | 885, 100, 005, 100 villages massacred | I am blood banana man


[24-Feb-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/GRmre8ggkcY

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yecolennon
https://youtu.be/GRmre8ggkcY
Te Recuerdo Amanda
Te recuerdo Amanda la calle mojada corriendo a la fábrica donde trabajaba Manuel. La sonrisa ancha la lluvia en el pelo no importaba nada ibas a encontrarte ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GRmre8ggkcY/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Feb-19 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
I Am Victor Jara | Chilean Bon Dylan Man | 100, 800, 750, 235, 600 folk activism songs performed and written | hands shattered by American puppets before being executed in misery


[24-Feb-19 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
The continuing art of American banana massacres in Latin America continues soon.


[24-Feb-19 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
All Venezuela to be a Macondo


[24-Feb-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
what is the name of this snowclone


[25-Feb-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are always strings attached.


[25-Feb-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think anyone ever argued that there wouldn't be strings attached


[25-Feb-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be hilarious if mueller hits up elliott abrams though


[25-Feb-19 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie, if you are aware that Elliot Abrams is possibly going to botch a military intervention and cause a lot of civilian suffering then why did you so eagerly say "send in the troops" yesterday


[25-Feb-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will die either way


[25-Feb-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
usually more die in the civil wars in this kind of thing.


[25-Feb-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no solution where people don't die.


[25-Feb-19 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you believe there's literally no moral difference between intervening and not intervening, then why didn't you tell us that yesterday


[25-Feb-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think there is a moral difference


[25-Feb-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
we can save some people and get the bloodshed over faster.


[25-Feb-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fast bloodshed might result in more deaths, though, as commanding officials have little time to judge how many civilian casualties they can afford


[25-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not usually with the way the US does warfare.


[25-Feb-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It tends to go with missile strikes on leadership first.


[25-Feb-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then comes in with tanks that can shrug off the rokks thrown by civilians.


[25-Feb-19 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, i'll point to the fact that Elliot Abrams would be leading the effort. If the civilians throw rocks at the tanks, it's likely that the Murican soldiers will identify them as "projectiles" or "grenades" or whatever and then fire at the civilians.


[25-Feb-19 12:25 AM] ononim#8141
>Nebbie is talking in #politics


[25-Feb-19 12:25 AM] ononim#8141
well, here another discord log worth Vivian Girls and the realms of Unreal in volume


[25-Feb-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/12/397891885/its-official-hillary-clinton-announces-presidential-run?fbclid=IwAR216ClN7_jT0nw-8CqTHOpYijs0WVn_HCTQMPUuvFGgK5i4kbGRGjYctb8

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It's Official: Hillary Clinton Announces Presidential Run
Clinton, a former secretary of state, U.S. senator from New York and first lady, is the first Democrat to officially announce a presidential run — and she's by far the favorite to win the nomination.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/04/12/clinton_wide-51834dc5a58b3c05893890ee28ec750975d5a573.jpg?s=1400


[25-Feb-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh god


[25-Feb-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh man


[25-Feb-19 02:59 AM] Litrojia#0612
Don't do that, you scared me for a second :trixdisgust:


[25-Feb-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[25-Feb-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was about to say called it


[25-Feb-19 03:08 AM] Litrojia#0612
yeah at first I was like *there's no fucking way*


[25-Feb-19 03:08 AM] Litrojia#0612
and then I saw the date in the link


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Litrojia#0612
She wouldn't stand a chance this election though


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatley for me i wouldnt be surprised if she did attmept a run


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, unless she pulls some shady strings


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she would likely try


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
BUT WHY AREN'T YOU   P O K E M O N    G O I N G    T O    T H E     P O L L S?


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd kill her popularity though, and also that of the DNC (who'd allow the same leadership crisis to happen twice)


[25-Feb-19 03:09 AM] Litrojia#0612
Establishment seems to already be betting on Biden and Harris


[25-Feb-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they had to purge the DNC after last election


[25-Feb-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye might do that after every electiont hough


[25-Feb-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i dunno


[25-Feb-19 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Reminder that Kamal Harris is a cop


[25-Feb-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is her platform?


[25-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
whatever gets her elected


[25-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/10012252/kamala-harris.jpg


[25-Feb-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[25-Feb-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
Harris tried to dismiss a suit brought by California inmates over the state’s use of solitary confinement, with her office insisting “there is no ‘solitary confinement’ in California prisons” (despite this, the case ultimately turned into a landmark settlement that struck a blow against the practice). She tried to block a transgender inmate’s request for gender reassignment surgery. When a prosecuting attorney inserted a falsified confession into the transcript of a defendant’s confession, committing what an appeals court called “outrageous government misconduct,” Harris appealed the case, arguing that it wasn’t “outrageous” because it didn’t involve physical brutality.


[25-Feb-19 03:20 AM] Litrojia#0612
I wouldn't mind her too much as president, but from what I've seen of her she just seems so fake. Probably my least favorite candidate of the Dems


[25-Feb-19 03:20 AM] Litrojia#0612
and not to mention the court skeletons


[25-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
Harris’s commitment to harsh punitive measures wasn’t limited to the three-strikes law. For all her recent concern about the incarceration of women and its economic effects, as district attorney, she successfully championed a statewide version of an anti-truancy law she had put in place in San Francisco that threatened parents of chronically truant children with as much as a $2,000 fine and a year in jail. By October 2012, two mothers had been imprisoned under the law.


[25-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
she's a mouthpiece for the private prison industry


[25-Feb-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[25-Feb-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope keep her out of fucking office


[25-Feb-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont need a private prison mouth piece runnign america


[25-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
she advocated for keeping an innocent man in prison who had his conviction reversed due to a lack of evidence


[25-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"The Larsen case was a travesty of justice from start to finish. In 1999, when two police officers claimed they saw Larsen, who had earlier in his life been convicted for burglary, pull a six-inch-long knife from his waistband and throw it under a car, he was sentenced to twenty-seven years to life under the three-strikes law supported by Harris."


[25-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Forget for a second that the sentence was unduly harsh for the crime in question. Police had wrongly targeted Larsen for a search in the first place, and witnesses reported that it wasn’t Larsen but the man he was with who had thrown the knife. In trial, Larsen’s incompetent lawyer (who would later be disbarred) didn’t investigate a single witness, nor present one in trial."


[25-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Eleven years later, a judge reversed the conviction due to the lack of evidence and incompetence of Larson’s attorney’s. Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality."


[25-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"Tens of thousands of people petitioned Harris to release Larsen, and numerous civil rights groups similarly called on her to do the right thing. But even when he was eventually released from custody after fourteen years, Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit."


[25-Feb-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
basically, literally all of her history points to her either not taking a stance on stuff she currently claims she supports now or even doing the opposite of what she claims to stand for, even for stuff she claimed to stand for at the time


[25-Feb-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbXqGiNlWWw

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The Grayzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbXqGiNlWWw
Investigating Venezuela's 'humanitarian crisis': Max Blumenthal to...
The corporate media claimed Venezuela has no basic food or supplies, so The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal investigated—at a giant supermarket in Caracas. Video e...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mbXqGiNlWWw/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Feb-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck everything about her


[25-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[25-Feb-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is a bad enuff person to win the election against Trump.


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being the better candidate


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
you mean harris?


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah Hillary clearly wasn't lol


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris might actually not be scummy enuff.


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Hillary was bad enuff.


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
hillary isn't running again


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she got dogpiled by things happening at certain times


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
plus a health scare


[25-Feb-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
weren't you saying that bernie would've been able to beat trump?


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
plus resentment over Bernie.


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie could barely beat Trump.


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
because I feel like bernie would've been able to beat trump, or at least come a lot closer to winning


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be a longshot, but he'd probably win.


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie might lose to Trump this time


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Bernie is too old now.


[25-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity, I think we established last night that no one says there's a shortage of food in venezuela, just no money to buy it


[25-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
like a hot dog right across the border in colombia would cost a month's wage in venezuela


[25-Feb-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
and that very video mentions that the problem isn't scarcity, it's valueless money


[25-Feb-19 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlX3yfXNX_g

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The Grayzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlX3yfXNX_g
The real humanitarian aid: Inside Venezuela’s state-subsidized c...
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the "humanit...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qlX3yfXNX_g/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Feb-19 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://grayzoneproject.com/2019/01/29/the-making-of-juan-guaido-how-the-us-regime-change-laboratory-created-venezuelas-coup-leader/

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Dan Cohen
https://grayzoneproject.com/2019/01/29/the-making-of-juan-guaido-how-the-us-regime-change-laboratory-created-venezuelas-coup-leader/
The Making of Juan Guaidó: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Cr...
Juan Guaidó is the product of a decade-long project overseen by US regime change trainers. He spent years leading a violent destabilization campaign.
https://i2.wp.com/grayzoneproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/juan-guaido-us-regime-change-training.jpg?fit=1280%2C720&ssl=1


[25-Feb-19 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway this article is very well sourced and shows why you should be against US intervention


[25-Feb-19 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
And the previous videos are just debunking common CNN bullshittery


[25-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://grayzoneproject.com/2019/02/24/burning-aid-colombia-venezuela-bridge/

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Max Blumenthal
https://grayzoneproject.com/2019/02/24/burning-aid-colombia-venezuela-bridge/
Burning Aid: An Interventionist Deception on Colombia-Venezuela Br...
Marco Rubio and coup leaders claim Venezuela's National Guard burned US aid trucks on the Colombia bridge. But evidence points in the opposite direction.
https://i1.wp.com/grayzoneproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Guarimba-feature.jpg?fit=1428%2C778&ssl=1


[25-Feb-19 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
And on the aid burning


[25-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
These were the nihilistic masked youth who form the shock troops of the right-wing opposition, and who placed Caracas under siege with violent barricade protests, known as guarimbas, at several points between 2014 and 2017. A mob of guarimberos burned to death Orlando Figuera, a 22-year old black Venezuelan accused of supporting Maduro, on an eastern Caracas street in broad daylight, back in June 2017.

On the Santander bridge this February 23, the guarimberos rained down a hail of rocks and molotov cocktails on Venezuelan national guardsmen holding the line against the USAID trucks. Suddenly, the trucks caught fire and the masked youth began unloading boxes of aid before they burned. Within minutes, pro-opposition media reported that the Venezuelan national guard forces were responsible for the fires.

A reporter for the private anti-government channel NTN24 claimed without evidence that the Venezuelan security forces had caused the fires with tear gas:


[25-Feb-19 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/taseenb/status/1099399180370563073/video/1

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taseenb (@taseenb)
https://twitter.com/taseenb/status/1099399180370563073/video/1
Another false flag at the border with Colombia. A "reporter" from @NTN24ve (opposition tv known for fake news) said a truck went on fire because the Venezuelan police launched tear gas. Let me know if you've seen tear gas burn a truck before
#Venezuela #HandsOfVenezuela ht...
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[25-Feb-19 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
The claim was absurd on its face. I have personally witnessed tear gas canisters hit every kind of vehicle imaginable in the occupied Palestinian West Bank, and I have never seen a fire like the one that erupted on the Santander bridge.


[25-Feb-19 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Even Bloomberg News, which has run a relentless stream of pro-opposition reports, published video showing guarimberos on the bridge making molotov cocktails, which could easily set a truck cabin or its cargo alight:


[25-Feb-19 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1099415428496011264/video/1

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TicToc by Bloomberg (@tictoc)
https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1099415428496011264/video/1
MORE: As a group of Venezuelans, most of them young, attempt to access the Venezuelan side of the border, a group is seen preparing molotov cocktails #tictocnews https://t.co/TG9JSxo5rh
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[25-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Meanwhile, the International Red Cross issued a statement condemning Venezuelan opposition activists disguising themselves as Red Cross workers – a blatant breach of humanitarian protocol. A screenshot from pro-opposition NTN24 coverage shows a fake Red Cross worker near one of the burning trucks:


[25-Feb-19 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1099418162091773953/photo/1

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Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal)
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1099418162091773953/photo/1
Not sure if the Venezuelan opposition activists disguised as Red Cross workers actually mean well
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[25-Feb-19 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Coming soon™
The military and cops can now shoot brown people with a full 3d HUD!


[25-Feb-19 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://gbatemp.net/threads/microsoft-employees-petition-against-hololens-contract-with-us-army.532205/

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Microsoft employees petition against Hololens contract with US Army
Those working on Microsoft’s augmented reality headset, the Hololens, are petitioning against the tech giant, as they’ve become upsetted by the...
https://gbatemp.net/attachments/158806/


[25-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/24/us/justin-fairfax-virginia-speech.html

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By MIHIR ZAVERI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/24/us/justin-fairfax-virginia-speech.html
Justin Fairfax Compares Himself to Lynching Victims in Speech to V...
Mr. Fairfax has been accused of sexual assault by two women, and is facing numerous calls to resign.
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[25-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
>Lt. Gov. Justin E. Fairfax of Virginia, who has been accused of sexual assault by two women and is facing calls to resign, compared himself to lynching victims in an unplanned speech before the State Senate on Sunday and said he was “standing firm in the truth.”


[25-Feb-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
in a way, he's not wrong


[25-Feb-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's been way too much stock placed in the word of the accuser recently, eroding the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"


[25-Feb-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
the EU does these sorts of accusations much better, with enforced privacy


[25-Feb-19 11:00 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/eve54j/the-woman-who-plotted-a-valentines-mass-murder-shares-how-the-internet-radicalized-her?utm_medium=vicenewsfacebook&fbclid=IwAR01IlZasEqH_KgPk8Td_hRwVcDp6s1BxtPmBk2afw82vs-ihjUmB1UP_0M

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The Woman Behind a Mass Murder Plot Shares How the Internet Radica...
How a violent Tumblr meme sparked an online romance that almost ended with the worst mass killing in Canadian history.
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[25-Feb-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ROLHtpxL0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ROLHtpxL0
Donald Trump clashes with his own trade chief in front of Chinese ...
US president Donald Trump has argued with his US trade chief during a televised trade meeting. When asked a question about trade talks with China, which have...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X0ROLHtpxL0/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Feb-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
living proof that skill, intelligence, and potential mean absolutely nothing in this world


[25-Feb-19 12:50 PM] Crow#5457
only whose genitals you were created by


[25-Feb-19 01:06 PM] Lilly#4737
tesla car powered by oil generator in trunk

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[25-Feb-19 01:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That's genius!


[25-Feb-19 01:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No need to wait for recharge


[25-Feb-19 01:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Defeats the point of all electric powered car. This could be worse is if they lived in a place where electric is made using coal or oils. My Electric comes from a windfarm. Weird we don't see EVs with solar panel body mods.


[25-Feb-19 01:54 PM] Lilly#4737
car surface area is ≈ 20M², power of solar panel is 195W-on-1M²


[25-Feb-19 01:54 PM] Lilly#4737
it's only 3900Watt of power


[25-Feb-19 01:54 PM] Lilly#4737
at noon


[25-Feb-19 01:55 PM] Lilly#4737
3900Watt = 5,3HP


[25-Feb-19 01:56 PM] Lilly#4737
only in noon with 100% efficiency


[25-Feb-19 02:03 PM] Lilly#4737
so, fuck the eVeh's, give me my 60000HP jet-truck

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[25-Feb-19 02:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:chickun:


[25-Feb-19 05:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/24/military-draft-judge-rules-male-only-registration-unconstitutional/2968872002/
when the next draft comes all will be taken. this is the future they chose

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With women in combat roles, a federal court rules male-only draft ...
A federal judge in Texas has declared that an all-male military draft is unconstitutional.
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[25-Feb-19 05:46 PM] ononim#8141

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[25-Feb-19 06:11 PM] Lilly#4737
Ussr: woman-sniper with 309 on count

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[25-Feb-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-climate-change-global-warming-panel-william-happer-white-house-a8795466.html

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Trump administration to create panel to deny climate change facts ...
‘This is like assembling a panel of gravity sceptics who insist it’s safe to jump off tall buildings,’ says Nasa scientist
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/02/25/08/trump-whitehouse.jpg


[25-Feb-19 06:23 PM] Lilly#4737
a great panel


[25-Feb-19 06:23 PM] Mikey#7286
idiots


[25-Feb-19 06:24 PM] ononim#8141
>mfw Yankistan managed to eclipse post-soviet Russia in being anti-science wootopia


[25-Feb-19 06:26 PM] ononim#8141

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[25-Feb-19 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://periodicoellibertario.blogspot.com/2019/02/opinion-venezuela-y-nicaragua-el-pasado.html

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Carlos A. Suárez  Cuando comenzaba a interesarme en los problemas del mundo, conversando sobre las rebeliones en Hungría y Polonia co...
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[25-Feb-19 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Finally found some anarchist/left-libertarian critique of Maduro


[25-Feb-19 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(In Spanish, but still)


[25-Feb-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2019/02/22/disregarding-warnings-arizona-lawmakers-move-forward-vaccine-exemptions/2942680002/

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Disregarding health warnings, Arizona lawmakers move forward on va...
Public-health officials say three bills passed by an Arizona House committee Thursday could erode vaccine coverage among schoolchildren.
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[25-Feb-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh hey, Cohen is testifying on Wednesday.


[25-Feb-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna be talking about the hush money thing, where Trump told him to break the law


[25-Feb-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
in private, though


[25-Feb-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not on Wednesday


[25-Feb-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-plans-give-america-peek-trump-tower/story?id=61106078

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Michael Cohen plans to give America a peek into Trump Tower, and i...
Lanny Davis shared new details with ABC News about the topics Cohen plans to cover.
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[25-Feb-19 11:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Can't have the president be a criminal during his time in office. Just do what the UK does and wait until they're dead then release the proof that they were guilty.


[25-Feb-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well it was before but connected to his campaign


[26-Feb-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/former-campaign-staffer-alleges-in-lawsuit-that-trump-kissed-her-without-her-consent-the-white-house-denies-the-charge/2019/02/25/fe1869a4-3498-11e9-946a-115a5932c45b_story.html


[26-Feb-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
"A staffer on Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign says he kissed her without her consent at a small gathering of supporters before a Florida rally, an interaction that she alleges in a new lawsuit still causes her anguish. "


[26-Feb-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
“She was under an oppressive NDA that prevents her from saying anything negative about the president,” he said. “She was also trying to move on with her life and had an application for a job with the embassy in Portugal pending.”


[26-Feb-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally I'd say it's just a kiss, but like, Trump is pretty old and a horrible person, I can imagine that causing real anguish.


[26-Feb-19 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump looks like a horror movie monster. Nobody wants to be kissed by that. Hard to get an image like that out of your nightmares.


[26-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine the alien from aliens gave you a sloppy kiss, then became president and slowly unravelled everything you held dear


[26-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you thought it would just kill you


[26-Feb-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it created a fate far worse


[26-Feb-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is what horror movies should really be about.


[26-Feb-19 02:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Giger's alien is prettier


[26-Feb-19 02:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Would rather kiss that than Trump


[26-Feb-19 02:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How'd this dude get to be our president, again?


[26-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue but unrelatedly


[26-Feb-19 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The new Hearts of Iron DLC has alt-hist scenarios so ASBy I'm wondering if they are jokes.


[26-Feb-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, the "Great Britain retakes the US and you can put Wallis Simpson on the throne as a monarch" obviously is but


[26-Feb-19 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some alternate history scenarios can be quite outlandish, as a number of them are done by people woth no literature or historical research at hand


[26-Feb-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or it's outlandish just because it wants to be


[26-Feb-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll tolerate that if it's honestly outlandish


[26-Feb-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WhAT iF HiTLEr INVAded thE unITEd sTATes?!??


[26-Feb-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, Man In The High Castle is a good show, don't get me wrong, but the plausibility isn't too serious when you look at it


[26-Feb-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
I run an RP that's a mix of being either honestly outlandish but as rooted in historical probability as possible. The idea behind it is that there was only WW1 but it lasted longer; the Russians withdrew earlier preventing the Russian Revolution and the US maintained neutrality. As a result a chunk of western Europe was basically stripped of all life and the subsequent damaging of western powers and America's deeper withdrawal into itself meant everyone else could run wild.


[26-Feb-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or: literally no one has ever bothered to take up a spot as a western European country and stuck it out for very long.


[26-Feb-19 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US maintaining neutrality in 1918 would likely result in a collapse of the Entente war effort


[26-Feb-19 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
France and Britain were quite dependant on US banking by the end of the war


[26-Feb-19 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also Russia imploded because it's early retirement from the war and longer autocracy of the czar was used as an argument to pressurize resentments in the Empire for longer that exploded when the czar was killed.


[26-Feb-19 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Germans even launched a potentially dangerous offensive (the Kaiserschlacht) in the midst of 1918 before US troops propped the Entente back up, so... German victory


[26-Feb-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think we realize there's a lot of bullshit to consider but the changes we made I think let's us feel we're in a suitable spot for bullshit. It's a lot different from what it was prior since the form of the RP we got now is a reboot of what we had before which was held together by duck tape and occasionally agreeing to retcon things to normalize shit.


[26-Feb-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
I still decided China would go Communist, writing as China myself. But altered the course of Chinese communism towards a more libertarian form because no Thotsky Trotsky to organize Russian intervention with the Chinese socialist movement, or not Stalin. As a result things took longer to resolve the Second Sino-Japanese War and formalize the Revolution. But I used it as a launching point to herald in a Taoist and Confucian inspired Communism.


[26-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
wtf https://thebullylist.org/about.php/2019-02-06-1320

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See Jose Carreon's post on The Bully List
Google search of friends and family displays bully's hate speech
https://thebullylist.org/bully_images/Jose_Carreon_02-06-19_320.jpg


[26-Feb-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
why is telling an offensive joke considered bullying


[26-Feb-19 03:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Because people are oversensitive nowadays


[26-Feb-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/trump-may-asked-whitaker-2018-meddle-new-york-investigations-congress-thinks-proof/

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Trump may have asked Whitaker in 2018 to meddle in New York invest...
According to The Wall Street Journal, The House Judiciary Committee believes it has evidence of President Donald Trump’s communication with his former acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker about his former fixer and personal lawyer Michael Cohen. The committee says it ha...
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[26-Feb-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village

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In politics and economics, a Potemkin village (also Potyomkin village, translated from the Russian: потёмкинские деревни, Russian pronunciation: [pɐˈtʲɵmkʲɪnskʲɪɪ dʲɪˈrʲɛvnʲɪ] potyomkinskiye derevni) is any construction (literal or figurativ...
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[26-Feb-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people are arguing that any pro-venezuelan reporting is actually a case of this


[26-Feb-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's all a set-up to make it seem like everything's ok in venezuela when it's actually not


[26-Feb-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
>According to journalist and author Rory Carroll, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez had routes in Caracas that would be visited by foreign dignitaries fixed up, with workers placing new paint on the streets and painting rocks and other fragments that were inside of potholes.


[26-Feb-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/VyXf9Vh.jpg

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Moving the goalposts
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[26-Feb-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaW3bvsqLjA
pre-crime is soon to be a thing in china

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Face of Pre-Crime: China's Shockingly Accurate A.I.
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[26-Feb-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
that's old


[26-Feb-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
from like years ago


[26-Feb-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
also, japan's doing the same thing https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2162239/japan-developing-pre-crime-artificial-intelligence-predict-money

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Japan developing ‘pre-crime’ artificial intelligence to predic...
New technology will also track vehicles and alert authorities when foreign ships deviate from their supposed route.
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[26-Feb-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
this is something that every government wants, not just china


[26-Feb-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/actress-found-dead-months-after-hinting-at-alleged-paedophile-ring/news-story/e2cd0f086103b09201d7c27a80921201

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Actress found dead months after hinting at paedophile ring
A former Big Brother star has died under mysterious circumstances shortly after making explosive claims linking a number of celebrities to paedophilia.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1f8058a7f93524ce8adfa41a284b11d3?width=650


[26-Feb-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/BKzWNZo

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Natacha Jaitt an actress from Argentina was found dead of an apparent overdose on the 23rd February 2019.
https://i.imgur.com/t0XKjiLh.jpg


[26-Feb-19 07:49 AM] Electron#4561
😦


[26-Feb-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, posibility number 1 is she's full of shit and was trying to cover in case she killed herself with all the drugs. Possibility 2, she knew things but accidentally killed herself as well. Possibility 3, actually knew stuff and was killed for it.
I think 1 is most likely, because of the rather specific prediction.


[26-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's hard to predict the method of assassination, but easy to predict what your own lifestyle may result in.


[26-Feb-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just say you know something and might end up dead in those circumstances one day, if you don't die, people forget about it, if you do, then you're protected by what you said.


[26-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I would suspect people with drug habits don't usually tweet out that they might be killed in a way that looks like a drug overdose


[26-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Ben Affleck wasn't saying anything about be suspicious if he dies from binge drinking before he was in rehab


[26-Feb-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2018/04/argentina_shocked_by_abuse_of.html

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Argentina shocked by abuse of minors at top soccer clubs
The growing child prostitution scandal at two of Argentina's most popular and successful soccer clubs has shocked many in this soccer-mad nation.
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[26-Feb-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
from april last year


[26-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't, but it's much rarer that someone predicts their own assassination method


[26-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I mis read your thing


[26-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Honahue#0656
It's late


[26-Feb-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's a clearly good strategy if you think it up as a drug addict.


[26-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
(especially one without fame)


[26-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Or you're in a career known for drug habits


[26-Feb-19 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Even if you aren't


[26-Feb-19 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like the exact thing an addict would say to get people off their back tbh


[26-Feb-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4/

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r/technology - Democrats Propose Rules to Break up Broadband Monop...
47,110 votes and 3,155 comments so far on Reddit


[26-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Found from a tangent off of that, https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf


[26-Feb-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note page 10


[26-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, the average person's influence is basically 0% in terms of what congress passes


[26-Feb-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
special interests get some representation, the elites get more


[26-Feb-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what voters actually think is statistically insignificant to what congress passes.


[26-Feb-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-jets.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-jets.html
Indian Jets Strike on Pakistani Side of Kashmir Line
Pakistan’s military said aircraft from India, which blames Pakistan for a recent suicide attack, had dropped bombs near the disputed border. But it was unclear what, if anything, was hit.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/26/world/26india-pakistan-promo/26india-pakistan-promo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[26-Feb-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47366679

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US TV team 'briefly detained' in Venezuela
Veteran Univision journalist Jorge Ramos says President Nicolás Maduro did not like his questions.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/3F47/production/_105799161_be7f09f4-7706-4920-b7bb-fd983f324f17.jpg


[26-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
"Univision, the leading Spanish-language TV network in the US, said the six-member crew had been released after almost three hours but that their recording and personal belongings had not been returned."


[26-Feb-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
maduro is stealing shit from reporters now for "not liking" some of the questions he's being asked by them


[26-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
"Mr Ramos, a veteran Mexican-born American journalist, is known for his confrontational style of questioning. In 2015, he was thrown out of a news conference of then-presidential candidate Donald Trump."


[26-Feb-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
ironic


[26-Feb-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/white-house-to-select-federal-scientists-to-reassess-government-climate-findings-sources-say/2019/02/24/49cd0a84-37dd-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8280656a6b4c


[26-Feb-19 12:54 PM] byte[]#2610
s/reassess/deny


[26-Feb-19 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/trump-national-emergency-congress-1185589

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/trump-national-emergency-congress-1185589
Trump on brink of defeat on border emergency
Just one more Senate Republican is needed to block Trump’s emergency declaration, though even critics are reluctant to buck the president.
https://static.politico.com/ed/11/373777524fa88e44721f9760a52f/190225-trump-tillis-ap-773.jpg


[26-Feb-19 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-strikes-terrorist-camp-across-line-of-control-say-reports-official-details-awaited-1999291

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India Hits Terror Camps Across Line Of Control Days After Pulwama ...
India carried out pre-dawn air strikes on terror training camps across the Line of Control on Tuesday, two weeks after 40 soldiers were killed in a terror attack in Kashmir's Pulwama. At around 3:30 this morning, 12 Mirage 2000 fighter jets of the Indian Air Force dropped 1,0...
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[26-Feb-19 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
oof


[26-Feb-19 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not a Pakistani-sponsored camp, though, as it seems


[26-Feb-19 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, less of a chance of diplomatic crisis


[26-Feb-19 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In other news related to Pakistan tho


[26-Feb-19 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/new-public-school-for-trans-people-opens-its-doors-in-pakistan/#gs.Ti6SdHvL

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https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/new-public-school-for-trans-people-opens-its-doors-in-pakistan/
New public school for trans people opens its doors in Pakistan
Pakistan has continued its commitment to creating equality for trans people and opened another school dedicated to their professional development
https://www.gaystarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/trans-pakistan-school.jpg


[26-Feb-19 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/lifestyle/pakistans-first-ever-trans-pride-parade-held-in-lahore/

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Asma Malik
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/lifestyle/pakistans-first-ever-trans-pride-parade-held-in-lahore/
Pakistan’s first ever trans-pride parade held in Lahore
LAHORE - On Saturday, 29th December, Lahoris celebrated the new year by hosting Pakistan’s First Trans Pride Parade.    2018 has been a very fruitful year for the Transgender Community of Pakistan
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/49571752_962680777260553_5374008147570589696_n.jpg


[26-Feb-19 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
c:


[26-Feb-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/michael-cohen-will-give-congress-evidence-trump-criminal-conduct-source-n976046

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/michael-cohen-will-give-congress-evidence-trump-criminal-conduct-source-n976046
Cohen will tell Congress of alleged Trump criminal conduct, source...
A knowledgeable source told NBC News Trump's ex-attorney will detail what he will describe as the president's lies, racism and cheating as a private businessman.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_09/2765946/190226-michael-cohen-mn-1105_2b9628f47eb6d4f9fc80e7d9b2499d6d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Feb-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It begins


[26-Feb-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It begins, but when does it end


[26-Feb-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This process feels like it's taking forever


[26-Feb-19 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/26/politics/hhs-documents-minors-sexual-abuse/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/26/politics/hhs-documents-minors-sexual-abuse/index.html
HHS docs show thousands of alleged incidents of sexual abuse again...
The Department of Health and Human Services received more than 4,500 complaints of sexual abuse against unaccompanied minors from 2014-2018, according to internal agency documents released Tuesday by Florida Democratic Rep. Ted Deutch.
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[26-Feb-19 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/Xd7H2RAnzZQ

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Art House Politics
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UK Politics Explained By American
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[26-Feb-19 08:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/83mMLz4ikEw

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Sir Swag
https://youtu.be/83mMLz4ikEw
This week's news without the bullshit
Welcome to this week’s news without the bullshit for the 8th week of 2019. This week we’ll be looking at the PETA controversy with Steve Irwin, as well as th...
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[26-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
"...But those were foreign children, so it didn't really matter."


[26-Feb-19 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
its fine brown kids aren't really people anyway


[26-Feb-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>mfw people say Cohen isn't trustworthy because he lied to Congress


[26-Feb-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>mfw he lied about things that protected Trump


[26-Feb-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1100503846386835456

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Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz)
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1100503846386835456
Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison.  She’s about to learn a lot...
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[26-Feb-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They aren't worried at all. No sir


[26-Feb-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
wow he's getting roasted in the replies


[26-Feb-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
someone posted a mugshot lmao


[26-Feb-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even some conservatives are, lel


[26-Feb-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-ally-rep-matt-gaetz-insists-hes-not-threatening-michael-cohen-by-suggesting-his-wife-will-leave-him

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Trump Ally Rep. Matt Gaetz Insists He’s Not Threatening Michael ...
Gaetz told The Daily Beast that he was simply ‘challenging the veracity and character of a witness,’ and not trying to intimidate a witness.
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[26-Feb-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Said it was to attack his character, but I fail to see how it's relevant.


[26-Feb-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're talking about the veracity and character of a witness, how about his drunk driving?


[27-Feb-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/panmyz/anti-amazon-fever-is-spreading-and-big-tech-companies-should-be-worried

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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/panmyz/anti-amazon-fever-is-spreading-and-big-tech-companies-should-be-worried
Anti-Amazon Fever Is Spreading, and Big Tech Companies Should Be W...
After the company's deal collapsed in New York, the next community-upending project might be a tougher sell.
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[27-Feb-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/431658-gop-leader-unsure-on-legality-of-trumps-emergency-declaration

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/431658-gop-leader-unsure-on-legality-of-trumps-emergency-declaration
GOP leader unsure on legality of Trump’s emergency declaration
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) says he has yet to determine whether President Trump’s emergency declaration to build border barriers is legal.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_022619gn_lead.jpg


[27-Feb-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Asked for his legal opinion after meeting with a Department of Justice lawyer at a Tuesday luncheon of the GOP conference, McConnell said, “I haven’t reached a total conclusion.”


[27-Feb-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
tfw even mcconnell is pretending to consider breaking ranks with trump


[27-Feb-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
>"I am not sure if it is illegal if Trump were to do it but I know for sure that if it were a democrat it would be an impeachable defense." McConnell


[27-Feb-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[27-Feb-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/26/bernie-sanders-jumps-into-erie-union-fight-over-ge-wabtec-merger-in-2020-swing-state-pennsylvania.html

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Bernie Sanders jumps into a union fight sparked by GE spinoff in 2...
Sanders recently launched a 2020 presidential campaign as a Democrat. The strike takes place in a state carried by President Donald Trump in 2016 that Democrats may need to win in order to take back the White House.
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[27-Feb-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Feb-19 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.facebook.com/grayzoneproject/videos/250862622525492/?__xts__[0]=68.ARB2jpAo04CXy-fAU4_qPbEwwxqE6mj7aWIBcm3Hko8USZT5PW6C3zfrCggGYpKnd1-0degtcNVr3wbHBbYrOOBv7cCsYmHiVsyHroMFH79KaeRyteyfzLt4wM_TKcE6xL8RcWnkFUlycEyNlJbI5CNrMh0p-oeNSDu61OLPqHgCRu6mHFRDfVcfceGkKfyu3re7WoMwYxBbaJ0nXN_4CU-8dHVJrNQNcqDxdqxgrFiAf-Ks9SRNuFPPZRzdXhsEA4gVZ1Fo-mxCe-7aNwjigJNCsi61BjdllMC6Pqac7jhTNAldnZeikujLi2v9sxmqsAWb3mgSjIzflgnWZMdgd4KRBy3cMMKX1Hb32Q8crv9h8wWoc6yUNxAarwck&__tn__=H-R

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The Grayzone
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The Grayzone
The corporate media claimed Venezuela has no basic food or supplies, so The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal investigated — at a giant supermarket in Caracas.
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[27-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives are saying that this is an example of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village#Modern_usage

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Potemkin village
In politics and economics, a Potemkin village (also Potyomkin village, translated from the Russian: потёмкинские деревни, Russian pronunciation: [pɐˈtʲɵmkʲɪnskʲɪɪ dʲɪˈrʲɛvnʲɪ] potyomkinskiye derevni) is any construction (literal or figurativ...
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[27-Feb-19 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
>An award winning investigative journalist


[27-Feb-19 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not in the pocket of the Pentagon


[27-Feb-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Of course they'd say that.


[27-Feb-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everything is    o l d    s o v i e t    h a t


[27-Feb-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
My life is old soviet hat


[27-Feb-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
another award winning journalist asked maduro some questions and got his shit taken away and his team deported because maduro didn't like the questions that were asked a couple days ago


[27-Feb-19 01:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well Maduro is another question, but Maduro is not a hunger crisis.


[27-Feb-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/europe/Jeremy-Corbyn-brexit-referendum.html

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By STEPHEN CASTLE
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/world/europe/Jeremy-Corbyn-brexit-referendum.html
Jeremy Corbyn, Under Pressure From His Labour Party, Backs New Bre...
Mr. Corbyn’s support for a second referendum cheered pro-European Britons, but his shift is no guarantee that a so-called “people’s vote” will happen.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/26/world/26labour-print/26labour1-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[27-Feb-19 02:40 AM] Yuri#4154
Took him long enough


[27-Feb-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-judges-might-serve-life-not-eternity-n975676

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-judges-might-serve-life-not-eternity-n975676
Supreme Court rules judges might serve for life, but not eternity
In order for a vote to count, a judge must be actively serving on the court when a ruling is rendered, the Supreme Court said.
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[27-Feb-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
"But the Supreme Court said Monday it's "generally understood that a judge may change his or her position up to the very moment when a decision is released." In order for a vote to count, a judge must be actively serving on the court when a ruling is rendered. Holding otherwise would have "allowed a deceased judge to exercise the judicial power of the United States after his death.""


[27-Feb-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
"In an unsigned opinion with no noted dissents, the Supreme Court said, "Federal judges are appointed for life, not for eternity.""


[27-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

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How a future Trump Cabinet member gave a serial sex abuser the dea...
Jeffrey Epstein avoided a lifetime sentence for underage human and sex trafficking and abuse. Learn how the deal drafted by then prosecutor Alexander Acosta and Epstein’s defense team made the charges go away.
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[27-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
from november


[27-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
"Alexander Acosta Helped Jeffrey Epstein cover up a massive cult like child sex network and gave him a slap on the wrist as well as derailing an FBI probe into how widespread the network was. But hey, it's worth it to ruin children's lives to own the libs, am I right?"


[27-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/rudepundit/status/1098949710499463168

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The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit)
https://twitter.com/rudepundit/status/1098949710499463168
Call me old-fashioned, but when a judge says a member of the president's cabinet covered up for a serial child rapist, I think that ought to be a huge scandal. But I guess that's not the world we live in now.
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[27-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Mikey#7286
:thunk:


[27-Feb-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
House voted to block trump's national emergency


[27-Feb-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's looking like the senate might as well


[27-Feb-19 07:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Noice


[27-Feb-19 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/431758-cohen-to-deliver-scathing-testimony-allege-trump-knew-stone-talked

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READ: Cohen testimony alleges Trump knew Stone talked with WikiLea...
Michael Cohen is expected to deliver a scathing and explosive testimony before the House Oversight and Reform Committee Wednesday, calling President Trump a "conman," a "racist" and a "cheat," according to a copy of his prepared rem
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[27-Feb-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/1224201715541731380.jpg

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[27-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan-aircraft.html

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By MARIA ABI-HABIB, SALMAN MASOOD and SAMEER YASIR
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan-aircraft.html
Pakistani Military Says It Shot Down 2 Indian Warplanes, Capturing...
India has not yet confirmed the claim. Pakistan said it had captured two Indian crew members from one plane that went down in Pakistani territory.
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[27-Feb-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
>designated


[27-Feb-19 03:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not another Indo-Pakistani war...


[27-Feb-19 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
HAHA TIME TO POSADISM POSTING


[27-Feb-19 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://asunaya.github.io/Sapplycompass


[27-Feb-19 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
It this time again, lads


[27-Feb-19 04:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1100781840623751169?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1100781840623751169?s=21
Great meetings and dinner tonight in Vietnam with Kim Jong Un of North Korea. Very good dialogue. Resuming tomorrow!
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[27-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the meantime cohen is testifying in court aGAINst him


[27-Feb-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trying to use cohen's family as leverage was probably the worst move trump ever made against cohen


[27-Feb-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it removed any reason for cohen to co-operate with him in any capacity ever again


[27-Feb-19 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-check-trump-allegedly-signed-to-reimburse-michael-cohen-for-hush-money-payments/

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CNN Airs Check Trump Allegedly Signed to Reimburse Michael Cohen f...
CNN has obtained a copy of the the check Michael Cohen received from Donald Trump to reimburse him for the illegal hush money payments he conducted on the president's behalf.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-27-at-7.28.40-AM.jpg


[27-Feb-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
act like a mob boss, get thrown under the bus like one


[27-Feb-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They did witness intimidation against Cohen *twice*


[27-Feb-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The second time with public tweets


[27-Feb-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is how not to discredit someone.


[27-Feb-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor how to get them to play along with you.


[27-Feb-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cohen knows he's safe from Trump's nonsense


[27-Feb-19 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just shitty attempts at character examination


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
assassination?


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tho I must say


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are doing it so poorly it's examination instead.


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean we have proof Trump acted as part of a criminal conspiracy in office now


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what else can they do


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol Republicans going HE COMMITTED TAX FRAUD DON'T RELY ON HIM FOR DIRT


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Call him a liar? The check isn't lying.


[27-Feb-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also love their whole 24 hour rule


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
so like, the idea is


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
as long as Cohen keeps coming up with new dirt


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The check was campaign finance fraud


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
they could keep postponing


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
or if they kept coming up with new dirt


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
they'd be able to bury info on Trump from public view...with info on Trump


[27-Feb-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the very start of the hearing was about.


[27-Feb-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
EXCUSE ME WE GOT NEW INFO LET'S POSTPONE REEEE


[27-Feb-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, on another strategic level


[27-Feb-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
they knew they wouldn't get a postponement


[27-Feb-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems aren't that dumb.


[27-Feb-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they knew they could take up 10 minutes arguing for it


[27-Feb-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/michael-cohen-reveals-oval-office-meeting-with-president-trump-to-discuss-hush-money-payments/

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[27-Feb-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
complete with forcing a one-at-a-time vote on the matter after the voice vote


[27-Feb-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[27-Feb-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“Hold up,” Cummings said. “The date on the check is after President Trump held his big press conference claiming that he gave up control of his businesses. How could the president have arranged for you to get this check if he was supposedly playing no role in his business?”'


[27-Feb-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump most definitely is violating the Emoluents clause


[27-Feb-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is rokk solid


[27-Feb-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The court case proceeding against him on that


[27-Feb-19 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's gonna use this as a nitro boost.


[27-Feb-19 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[27-Feb-19 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen just fucking admitted that the BuzzFeed story was true


[27-Feb-19 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now is a bad time to be a Republican


[27-Feb-19 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
in office, at least, or running for office.


[27-Feb-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Special elections are gonna be brutal on them over this.


[27-Feb-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump fucking coached Cohen in front of the HIC in 2017


[27-Feb-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pennsylvania's 12th


[27-Feb-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are gonna announce their candidate for that on the 2nd


[27-Feb-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
watch his polling be way below normal.


[27-Feb-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are rerunning their loser from November.


[27-Feb-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a 2/3rds victory for Republicans


[27-Feb-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then their guy resigned to take some job


[27-Feb-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
...like right after being sworn in


[27-Feb-19 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, one GOP candidate for a certain state next year openly believes the chemtrail conspiracy theory


[27-Feb-19 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the level they're in right now


[27-Feb-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So uh the NC election fraud thing


[27-Feb-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But Democrats have dead people vote!


[27-Feb-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this the florida thing where that oen town in foridal tried to use dead people liek the fcc did for fake support accounts?


[27-Feb-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See


[27-Feb-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The GOP's line is to make voting harder because there are supposedly lots of illegals voting etc


[27-Feb-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the most prominent electoral fraud in recent years, that took place in NC, was spearheaded by Republicans.


[27-Feb-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1100817774925004801

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That's the central topic of Cohen's original lie to Congress.

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[27-Feb-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man that Freshman woman


[27-Feb-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
She knows the party will probably toss her out if she doesn't shill like crazy


[27-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
She just went right out into WE COULD BE FOCUSING ON REAL ISSUES LIKE BORDER SECURITY


[27-Feb-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, we could be figuring out how to split apart MEXICAN families


[27-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The standard character assassination line as well


[27-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
like, oh, Cohen lied before, so this is all lies too!


[27-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, that he's immoral, therefore we shouldn't believe him


[27-Feb-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like...yeah he's evil, but that doesn't mean he's bullshitting you on everything


[27-Feb-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Cohen naming Ivanka and Jared's lawyers


[27-Feb-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
as being part of those editing his statements to lie


[27-Feb-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's not gonna end well for them.


[27-Feb-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"This $35,000 check was one of 11 check installments that was paid throughout the year -- while he was President. The President of the United States thus wrote a personal check for the payment of hush money as part of a criminal scheme to violate campaign finance laws."


[27-Feb-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yet Democrats are saying "let's not impeach yet"


[27-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want a bigger bonfire considering the GOP is still defending this shit.


[27-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They've got the fucking check


[27-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bigger. Bonfire.


[27-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Than _criminal conspiracy?_


[27-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is still playing defense midhearing.


[27-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Its


[27-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about when Mueller's report gets forced into daylight by the House


[27-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
when Alexandria and Elizabeth jointly say that they're releasing it in the interests of the American people


[27-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
unredacted.


[27-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when it says in clear words that the president conspired with a foreign gov't to undermine American interests for personal gain as president


[27-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And lays out like 40+ crimes he committed


[27-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
including rape, statutory rape...


[27-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the bonfire the Dems are looking forward to, Its.


[27-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lmao at people saying Cohen said that he didn't see collusion


[27-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
no shit he didn't work on the campaign


[27-Feb-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are looking forward to when they can say the POTUS is a perverted child rapist who pays lawyers to bury his indiscretions and got blakkmailed by our cold war enemy.


[27-Feb-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez the people questioning him are mad


[27-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause thing is


[27-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Honahue#0656
I mean it would make the whole conservative party look bad


[27-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's definitely child sex coverups going on with the elite


[27-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Trump can't resist at least grabbing the ass of women that are nearby, even if they're 14


[27-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
What happens if it turns out those Russian prostitutes were 12/13?


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Faux news has been shilling Trump for years if it came out he was a pedo or even just tangential to pedos it would be a massive fall out


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol they're talking about him defrauding a fucking bank now


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
fucking off the rails


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP has been talking about that the whole hearing


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a charge he admitted to


[27-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their line of reasoning is if he lies to the banks, he'll lie about Trump under oath to congress


[27-Feb-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, that's a likely possibility Dems are waiting for


[27-Feb-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller's Report could set the whole Republican party ablaze with a single page


[27-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can you imagine Mitch McConnell trying to rally Republicans to not impeach someone who rapes teenagers then has lawyers bury the stories?


[27-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Mitch succeeded at doing such


[27-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The party would die


[27-Feb-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he failed at it, the party would die a little later.


[27-Feb-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't a winning move except to somehow co-opt the Dems' own initiative


[27-Feb-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they can't do that because they don't control the House and aren't the obvious initiators of MeToo


[27-Feb-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[27-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch had better hope the worst that comes out of this is that Trump very clearly was in Putin's pokket


[27-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
it can be far worse


[27-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems aren't gonna spring on just "oh the president violated the law with where his money goes a ton"


[27-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's small fries


[27-Feb-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could literally on twitter promise money to people from a presidential fund


[27-Feb-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
hush money


[27-Feb-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP wouldn't impeach yet


[27-Feb-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The President has no clothes and he's mooning us.


[27-Feb-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are waiting to be able to point out that his clothes contain dead hookers.


[27-Feb-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
LMAO the "let's do other stuff" guy


[27-Feb-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every GOP member is saying the same thing


[27-Feb-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
NPC meme up in congress


[27-Feb-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all THIS GUY A LIAR DON'T BELIEVE HIM HE LIED TO BANKS GUYS HE IS JUST IN IT FOR MONEY


[27-Feb-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
with a bit of WE COULD BE TACKLING REAL ISSUES LIKE THOSE WETBACKS


[27-Feb-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"how did you know that he directed you to do it"


[27-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The money was put in his account...


[27-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was signed by Trump


[27-Feb-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is the problem here


[27-Feb-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
is this the end of the modern GOP?


[27-Feb-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[27-Feb-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I enjoy conservative groups during this time that have like five comment threads about this but dozens of pages on "Look what this trans person did"


[27-Feb-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Our job here is not to discredit the president"


[27-Feb-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dunno i think the president is doing a fine job of discrediting himself


[27-Feb-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
man the republicans are still thirsty for daddy trumpykins


[27-Feb-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Angery


[27-Feb-19 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how long is a recess usually?


[27-Feb-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're back


[27-Feb-19 11:19 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gellymmy/detail=trend?censusid=53


[27-Feb-19 11:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Look like I should outlaw blackmarkete


[28-Feb-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/431917-trump-lawyer-rips-cohen-claim-that-his-testimony-on-trump-tower-was

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Trump lawyer rips Cohen claim that his testimony on Trump Tower wa...
President Trump's attorney Jay Sekulow fired back at Michael Cohen on Wednesday after the president's former lawyer testified that Trump's lawyers had edited his earlier testimony before Congress about the timing of the Trump Tower Moscow project
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[28-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get it https://i.4cdn.org/tv/1551272108332.png

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[28-Feb-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
is it saying there's an alternate past or whatever where humans were ultra powerful demigods or something


[28-Feb-19 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[28-Feb-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
looks dumb tbh


[28-Feb-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pie peoples?


[28-Feb-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Its /int/ shitposting.


[28-Feb-19 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Feb-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conway said the checks "appear" to be a crime.


[28-Feb-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Trump "spoke in code"


[28-Feb-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Money didn't speak in code


[28-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/u-s-drops-demand-full-accounting-n-korea-nuclear-program-n977251

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U.S. drops demand for full accounting of N. Korea nuclear program ...
The country's refusal to disclose all of its nuclear materials is the issue over which talks fell apart a decade ago.
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[28-Feb-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
"The decision to drop, for now, a significant component of a potential nuclear deal suggests a reality that U.S. intelligence assessments have stressed for months is shaping talks as they progress: North Korea does not intend to fully denuclearize, which is the goal Trump set for his talks with Kim."


[28-Feb-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real question is trumps realmmotives with north korea


[28-Feb-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause there's the public forums but then there;s the hush hush no staff allowed meetings


[28-Feb-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so is he really after de-nuclearization or are thye making business deals int he back room?


[28-Feb-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1100903566506688512?s=19

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the soundbite to last generations

Alex Jones: "look here's the thing, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm kind of retarded" https://t.co/VLHVB9jII3
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[28-Feb-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
wow, alex jones has kinda let himself go


[28-Feb-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
guess that happens when you lose a lawsuit for libel


[28-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
well, not lose the lawsuit exactly, but failed to prevent it from going to court


[28-Feb-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/us/politics/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html

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Sandy Hook Families Gain in Defamation Suits Against Alex Jones
As the cases inch toward trial, the conspiracy theorist faces the possibility that he will have to be deposed and provide business records.
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[28-Feb-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
he's likely got a lot of shady shit going on which he doesn't want exposed


[28-Feb-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Feb-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/roger-stone-michael-cohen-trump-wikileaks-emails

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Roger Stone Says Michael Cohen Is Lying, After Stone Was Ordered N...
Cohen said in his prepared remarks that Stone told Trump in a call in July 2016 that Stone had talked to Assange and there would be an email dump damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
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[28-Feb-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just couldnt make it a week


[28-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not paying attention to the congress hearings, I think I saw something earlier about the possibility that trump had sex with or sexually assaulted minors?


[28-Feb-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[28-Feb-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump liked em young


[28-Feb-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is also apparently into incest


[28-Feb-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the allegations in the campaign centered around Trump and how he treats women was he would go into the dressing rooms or such of Miss Teen USA


[28-Feb-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In addition, there was a prominent guy running a pedo ring among the rich and elite who got caught a few years bakk.


[28-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, it wouldn't be completely out of left field if Trump did it with girls below 16 years old.


[28-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be the Mueller holy grail


[28-Feb-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/27/media/trump-kim-summit-reporters/index.html

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White House limits press access at Trump-Kim meeting after reporte...
American reporters asked President Trump about Michael Cohen's testimony during a photo opportunity between Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un on Wednesday.
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[28-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I put it at about a 30% chance.


[28-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
"American reporters asked President Trump about Michael Cohen's testimony during a photo opportunity between Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un on Wednesday. Trump didn't answer. Less than an hour later, the White House blocked several reporters from attending the next media availability between Trump and Kim. Press secretary Sarah Sanders cited "the sensitive nature of the meetings.""


[28-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
>But the press limitations were an abrupt change -- suggesting that the president didn't want to hear any more questions about Cohen.


[28-Feb-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
fucking clown


[28-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
"Past administrations have pointedly advocated for press access during meetings with repressive governments. The idea was to demonstrate what American democracy looks and sounds like -- pesky reporters and all. But several White House correspondents said the Trump administration is behaving differently."


[28-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more likely, more boring reality is somewhere betwen "Trump is taking orders from Putin on a daily basis and just loves hookers peeing on him" and "Trump told Russia to get a thing and they did, and they've been taunting him about the piss tape in the hopes he won't screw them over later"


[28-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that Democrats aren't idiots


[28-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
>"A lot of catering to Kim Jong Un going on in Vietnam," CNN's Jim Acosta tweeted. "First press is kicked out of hotel where Kim is staying. Now some reporters are blocked from pool spray because the dictator doesn't like shouted questions."


[28-Feb-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
they know that 30% chance is there for this to just be a nuke against Republicans


[28-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they aren't impeaching yet.


[28-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if Mueller's report says nothing, it looks good on them to wait.


[28-Feb-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they know it will say something.


[28-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
>American reporters were anticipating the same level of access for the evening's next photo op, during dinner, but then "Sanders informed us that no print reporters would be allowed in due to sensitivities over shouted questions in the previous sprays," according to Vivian Salama of the Wall Street Journal. Salama was Wednesday's assigned "print pooler," one of many people who serves in a rotation.


[28-Feb-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
>So in other words, according to Salama, the White House was okay with photographers and camera crews being present -- to take pictures -- but not with the AP and Reuters reporters being there. Correspondents from the Los Angeles Times and Bloomberg were also blocked.


[28-Feb-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/us/oregon-rent-control-bill.html

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Is Your Rent Through the Roof? Oregon Wants to Fix That
Oregon is expected to enact the nation’s first statewide rent control law, in response to rapidly rising housing costs. Other states are watching closely.
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[28-Feb-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you're so anti-intellectual you don't allow journalists who write to attend.


[28-Feb-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
"Andy Mangels had been living in his modest apartment near downtown Portland, Ore., for three decades when the news arrived a few days before Christmas: His rent was being raised by 113 percent."


[28-Feb-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
"In an effort to halt runaway housing costs and curtail evictions, Oregon is expected this week to become the first state in the nation to cap how much landlords can raise rents. On Tuesday, the State House of Representatives is likely to pass rent control legislation that has already been approved by the State Senate. Gov. Kate Brown, a Democrat, has said she will sign it."


[28-Feb-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[28-Feb-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump signed the fucking check that constituted campaign finance violations


[28-Feb-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The exact same shit that Cohen is going to jail for


[28-Feb-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are people not upset


[28-Feb-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-67-the-gate-keeping-power-serving-tautology-of-electability

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Episode 67: The Gate-Keeping, Power-Serving Tautology of “Electa...
“How to Choose the Most Electable Democrat in 2020,” advises Politico. “Amy Klobuchar's best argument for 2020: Electability,” CNN reports. “Is Electability The Only Thing That Democratic Voters Want?
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[28-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of reasonable people are highly upset


[28-Feb-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there are unreasonable people too


[28-Feb-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of them now identify as Republican.


[28-Feb-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it real simple-like, @Itsthinking


[28-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
"conservative" and "liberal" really mean "xenophobia before reason" and "any other approach to the world"


[28-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they talk about how only half the Democratic party is "conservative"


[28-Feb-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they're really saying is that the Democrats hav reached a point where bigoted idiots aren't completely in control.


[28-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because bigoted idiots are being made to look really bad now that the anti-idiocy people are allied strongly with the anti-bigotry people.


[28-Feb-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
While a huge idiot who can't even keep his bigotry straight is in the White House


[28-Feb-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overlaid atop this is "right" vs. "left", which is about "authority before reason" vs. "reason before authority"


[28-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that reason before authority tends to preclude xenophobia before reason


[28-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence being left makes you liberal.


[28-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but being right doesn't make you conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but unfortunately for all of us


[28-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
xenophobia before reason is the ground state of humanity, and increases when things pump up the fear


[28-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with not enuff people who just want state forcing equality bullshit to actually be the core of the Republican party


[28-Feb-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't room for them and they get booted off to the Democrats


[28-Feb-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Hillary is.


[28-Feb-19 04:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
On a similar note, the common accusation of "RINO" is ridiculous


[28-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary in a sane world would be a Republican candidate fighting xenophobes


[28-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
While Bernie is off trying to deal with people who say that reason means we should be sexist and tear down laws helping people be equal


[28-Feb-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead we're here


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to be a xenophobe to sit at the table in the Republican party


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DINOs don't exist


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically only Harry Reid's nickname


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats by virtue of being reason before authority must accept people who even hav the exact opposite viewpoint


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
since otherwise they'd just be a thorny third party sapping away support


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If you're not xenophobic, you're apparently a "RINO"


[28-Feb-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[28-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you pull a McCain and base yourself on "fukk you"


[28-Feb-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I saw lots of conservatives hating on McCain for not being conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess that's one big reason Dems struggle in elections; their party is based on free thinking, and hence, their messages get jumbled


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are a loose coalition


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which is a little frustrating given that a lot of them are the rational ones


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is an evil empire


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can disagree with the emperor, but he will smite you in the end.


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems don't play local elections and rely on Blue Islands, which are fukked in an electoral college system.


[28-Feb-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they aren't


[28-Feb-19 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They don't try hard enough to get swing voters


[28-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The electoral college system only fukks them over because there is an entire section of the country that can abuse its extra votes and has smaller islands


[28-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And on top of that


[28-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's reversion to the mean


[28-Feb-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could promise nuking the planet to death while Dems offer ascending to a higher plane of existence


[28-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
people would still rarely vote more than two thirds either way


[28-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
By making there only be two choices, with about equal prominence, and a huge dichotomy attached


[28-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes people think the choices are equivalent


[28-Feb-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means that which one they support is largely a coin flip in the end


[28-Feb-19 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The 2018 midterms had a huge increase in turnout, and that was still only about 50% turnout


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reversion to the mean is very bad in an electoral college system


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of winner-take-all


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means that a slight change in the winds changes the overall victor...even if they lost overall.


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you'll hav places that are 50/50 split


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And then we get radical policy as a result


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No matter who wins


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead of giving half and half, you giv all


[28-Feb-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Parliamentary system, then


[28-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just do direct popular vote and it'll work better


[28-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need that much of a change.


[28-Feb-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Would it be a good idea to split electoral votes between congressional districts rather than states?


[28-Feb-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly


[28-Feb-19 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(although that would give even *more* incentive to gerrymander)


[28-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd shatter the last vestige of an idea of being a federation of states


[28-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what it would take to get anything other than a solid blue state to sign the Popular Vote Compact or whatever its called


[28-Feb-19 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Does that idea of "federation of states" hold up in modern times? More importantly, is it significant that it does or doesn't?


[28-Feb-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republicans playing defense for 2 decades, Its.


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't hold up, BUT


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern states want it to


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they don't like that they lost the civil war


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are forced to treat blakk people as humans and accept northern control


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, still, to this day.


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know that scene in the Nic Cage remake of Wickerman where they pour the bees over his head


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he says they're doing this for nothing


[28-Feb-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically the South and fighting the civil war for slavery


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
"states' rights" was designed as a thin veil over "let us treat blakk people badly you hav no right to stop us"


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's a tad long for a grudge


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Killing the North won't bring back your goddamn efficiency


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seeing that Britain and the US reconciled after just over 100 yrs


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is very proud of its shitty culture.


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah there's the rub


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The UK has tons to offer the US as a trade partner


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Great Rapprochement or smth


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of racism, fried chikken and tons of sugar so you die of heart disease, and lakk of productivity


[28-Feb-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The South has statistically been a drain on the US forever


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What about the days of when "cotton was king"


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The North got California


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Southern food traditions were all, hilariously, invented by African-Americans.


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
California made the South completely obsolete.


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
European nations did nearly support the South during the civil war cuz of cotton


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Though that's a tad moot now


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans naturally HATE California


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Support the South and we starve you"


[28-Feb-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ok we'll just go to Egypt for cotton I guess"


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Commoners in the UK and France _hated_ the Confederacy


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Speaking of culture


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least the Civil War gave us this


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Claims

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/CSSAlabama.jpg


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If the South is so racist, why exactly are Dems campaigning against the Reps by calling them racist?


[28-Feb-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wouldn't that appeal to the South?


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well there's a weird thing about being called racist now


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so like


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people that say it has no power are still offended by being called it


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems can't take the South easily


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
not after they lost it


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess that's true


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
from being not racist enuff


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously...


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
God damn you, but also god bless you LBJ


[28-Feb-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
After LBJ signed civil rights legislation


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
the South voted for a different guy in his own party


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dixiecrats


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It took like 40 years


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but eventually Republicans managed to be just racist enuff to win over the South


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Makes it hilarious tbh that the Reps pride themselves on being the party of Lincoln


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
at which point there was a tidal wave of racists joining Republicans


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's that xenophobia I was talking about


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lincoln would be APPALLED by modern Republicans


[28-Feb-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Southern Strategy and Revolution of 1994


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
he'd call them Old Democrats who want slavery


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both changed the GOP


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's literally tru tho


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, Lincon after he died


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
his Democrat VP took over


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A Dem in 1960 was a Rep in '68


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
very evil southerner


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern GOP wants you to forget the Southern Strategy or Revolution of 1994 happened.


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically Trump before Trump


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So they can say "DEMS STARTED THE KKK"


[28-Feb-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy went around congress all the time, publicly mokked them


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
he barely was able to take the oath of office


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Johnson was a shitwad


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He screwed up reconstruction


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Radical Republicans were right.


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they couldn't impeach him, too many bribes, too few counterbribes.


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Impeaching him would have created a dangerous precedent


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't he get impeached and survive removal by one vote?


[28-Feb-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yep


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not impeaching him created the current precedent


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was the Ur Trump


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I've been about 3 years displaced from APUSH


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was impeached


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But while he was a shitwad


[28-Feb-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think he was that bad?


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Largely unpopular, yes


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not impeaching Trump is entirely Pelosi remembering 1998.


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing else.


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He tried to prevent enforcement of the law


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress called for troops to do Reconstruction


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He told the troops to do nothing


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He violated the Tenure of Office Act, that was the offense


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know he was veto-happy


[28-Feb-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He vetoed out of Southern sympathy


[28-Feb-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tbh radical Reps were too radical even for Lincoln


[28-Feb-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he said untrue things about how his Southern state's guys totally never rebelled


[28-Feb-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although they had the right idea


[28-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, xenophobia is a bitch to kill.


[28-Feb-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need strong education programs and wealth lasting many generations.


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'd say you need more than that, honestly


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is systemically opposed to better education due to xenophobia


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't let schools in many areas teach second languages


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is a big deal


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>push STEM constantly


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
a second language growing up is like way number one to hugely improve learning


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>don't let people learn Mandarin


[28-Feb-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is though


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh goddamnit Johnson allowed for the black codes


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What's with this guy


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
they tend to oppose transportation infrastructure


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really didn't understand the way that the English language was structured until I had to learn another language by the book


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
again out of xenophobia


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't want their rural area infected with other cultures, even from neighboring states


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That... is irrational


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Xenophobia isn't rational.


[28-Feb-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Will the "smart kid ran out of his farm town for being smart" thing ever end


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They would willingly damage their economy just to be xenophobic?


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, xenophobia before reason


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the heart of conservatism


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what current politics are about


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can literally make people far less racist by giving them anti-anxiety medication


[28-Feb-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Conservatism is rooted in a fear of change


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
new things, not just change


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
other peoples, other cultures, other ideas


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
While this is rational in moderate levels


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reps have just taken it too far


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
With the "new ideas" thing


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is in control


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South requires xenophobia to justify its existence


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Conservatism only works if the government is currently functioning smoothly


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ahahahahhaahahahah


[28-Feb-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it uses the Republican party to enforce that


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both parties are economically liberal


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well, kind of?


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reps tend to favor the rich for sure


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberal in the economic sense is about regulations


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Under the guise of "deregulating"


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less of them, less tax, to try to grow investment like crazy


[28-Feb-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is the REpublican way


[28-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also the Democrat way mostly


[28-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just are more economically liberal


[28-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither party really accepts balancing the budget and taxing to meet it and spending less.


[28-Feb-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reps are primarily this way b/c their mouths are influenced with lobbyist dollars


[28-Feb-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans pretend to be economically conservative because it helps obscure the racism.


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought a big goal of the Dems was to balance to budget?


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Example: Clinton


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you say "this program to take away lead paint in Southern blakk kid homes is too expensive"


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a lot easier than saying you don't like Southern blakk kids


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The funny thing is


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He balanced the budget in the 90s till W wreaked havoc on it in the ensuing decade


[28-Feb-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems never make a big deal out of balancing the budget as far as campaign promises


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in office, they actually do it


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That makes sense, I guess


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they are more economically conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Voters don't exactly get excited about the budget


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was starting to cut into the debt when Trump came in


[28-Feb-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's the highest it's ever been.


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
when you giv money to those poor blakk kids


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't know how much it happens anymore, but I get so frustrated with people that blame Obama for causing the recession


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of lead paint


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
When it started under Bush


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they grow up to be productive workers that pay taxes


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just takes several years.


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we only keep presidents in office for 8 years so


[28-Feb-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Honestly, associating the president with the economy makes no sense


[28-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the time you really do anything to the national debt, the next guy comes along


[28-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[28-Feb-19 04:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Would it be so hard to take those tax cuts for the rich and funnel that lost revenue into improving inner city education


[28-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
IRS is getting crushed


[28-Feb-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has like no budget


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans hav been passing bills to require it to keep up on finding earned income tax credit fraud


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You can't yell at people for having crappy schools and then not do anything about it


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but not rich people fraud


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yelling at people for having crappy schools is a dog whistle


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not meant literally.


[28-Feb-19 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This level of the rich dominating the government is nearing Gilded Age levels again


[28-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that blakk people are the ones who made their schools crappy, *i.e.*


[28-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that because the poor are criminals by being forced to be


[28-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and because blakk people are poor


[28-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We've got to stop giving money to those blakk scum etc.


[28-Feb-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Republican argument.


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about the schools, it's about racism.


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That doesn't make sense...


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Schools are funded by property taxes


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
guess on which kind of wealth blakk people hav the least compared to whites.


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe if, I dunno, you gave em money, they could stop being criminals out of essentially necessity


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans don't want to admit that


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
their narrative is that criminals are born bad


[28-Feb-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
[because they're blakk]


[28-Feb-19 04:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They steal their bread because legitimate means of getting it are being withheld


[28-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their narrative is you are completely capable of becoming an astronaut tomorrow


[28-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and since you didn't, you shouldn't be given any money


[28-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, thing about xenophobia before reason


[28-Feb-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it tends to like very simple worldviews


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
about personal ability and there being nothing out of your control


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I've read that the conservative worldview is a bit like the "strict father" worldview


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
those foreigners doing foreign things don't do them for REASONS


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
they do them cause foreign


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They believe the successful should not be meddled with and the unsuccessful not coddled


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is where you get the massive right-conservative crossover


[28-Feb-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But the way they go about doing this is ridiculous


[28-Feb-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The strict father rights the wayward kid


[28-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right say to set the rules and it's people's own faults if they can't follow them


[28-Feb-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He doesn't make it HARDER for them to succeed


[28-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative say that the OTHER does things cause it's the OTHER, not because of its circumstances


[28-Feb-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
These views reinforce each other


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can say blakk people are worse off cause they're lazy (other culture)


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
or because they do OTHER drugs


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or even because they like OTHER music


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's the whole "rap music isn't music spiel" isn't it


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Deny that their music is music, deculturize them, dehumanize them


[28-Feb-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's another code for talking about blakk people being scary, inferior aliens.


[28-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That justifies them being such.


[28-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racial politics are everywhere, it's cancerous.


[28-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's what the South wants.


[28-Feb-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're seeing blakk people living life unhindered, unstopped in the streets


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to them it's a threat, they fear it.


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the OTHER.


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sadly, racism is pretty strong in the subconscious mind, and that's something that isn't really that easy to change


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That being said


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's not nearly as strong in the conscious mind


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Each generation is a little less racist cause of good education, seeing that the OTHER is really human from exposure, etc. etc.


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That is true


[28-Feb-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Republicans latch onto the elderly as a voting base


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
people whose views are already set and are from a different time


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary also got a big help from the elderly, especially in the South


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause again


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think of her more as centrist


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't mean she's right


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's left.


[28-Feb-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's left conservative.


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's actually a bit more complicated than that, even


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's like


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
semi-conservative, semi-right


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but everything's so shifted


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
she basically looks left


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel as if she's a mix of both


[28-Feb-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like


[28-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
one time she talked about "superpredators"


[28-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was pretty clear she believed it


[28-Feb-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Clearly she advocates conservative policies; but calling for free tuition and a raise in the minimum wage isn't exactly conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's economically conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is hugely unrelated to socially conservative


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what puts her firmly on the left in American politics


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can hate blakk people all day


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Evidently, though I don't know the intricacies


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you advocate for things that won't hurt them, or even help them


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What does economically conservative imply


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you're tossed out of the Republicans


[28-Feb-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economically conservative means you try to use the state to manipulate things for the betterment of people


[28-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less freedom on businesses, but they don't hurt their customers


[28-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
lots of regulations


[28-Feb-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
high taxes


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economically liberal, and it's evil stepsister neoliberal, are about removing the rules and just letting the market run


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Arrrrrrre you sure?


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
neoliberal being silicon valley


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure, yes.


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Conservatism_in_the_United_States_Collage_2.jpg


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hold on


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Fiscal conservatism follows the same philosophical outlook of classical liberalism and economic liberalism."


[28-Feb-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I saw that


[28-Feb-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's why I pressed the "hold on" button


[28-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing about these terms is you can fukk them up really hard


[28-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
doing so is always beeneficial as a party


[28-Feb-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
because then you can use whichever terminology works best at the time.


[28-Feb-19 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
can you link me to an article or page that supports your definition of economic conservatism?


[28-Feb-19 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't know where to look .-.


[28-Feb-19 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this whole "economic liberalism is now conservative" thing is fucking with me


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately, I think the terminology's just rekt


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
economic liberalism is really old


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Republicans hav been saying fiscally conservative for half a century now


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
so while there is a dichotomy to be had


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I haven't really seen "economic conservatism" before Reps hijacked what economic liberalism was


[28-Feb-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"economic conservatism" as a term has been completely coopted


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's no counterpart to "economic liberalism"


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Regulatory capture, *maybe*


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that's just a way to undermine regulation, not an alternative


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sure, I wouldn't call her economically liberal; but in that regard, Hillary isn't really an "economic conservative" either, by virtue of "lack of existence of that term"


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
she's some other term


[28-Feb-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
_grumbles about his dichotomies being wrong because of people fukking with the words used to construct them_


[28-Feb-19 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean regulatory capture wasn't even in my lexicon until the NN debacle


[28-Feb-19 04:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess I'd call her economically progressive


[28-Feb-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is center-right


[28-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not entirely sure she cares about economic matters


[28-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
she just wants authority before reason and xenophobia around on par with reason


[28-Feb-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But authority on economic matters tends to mean regulation


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'ma pull up Clinton's 2016 platform real quick


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah she does favor bigger government than the Reps, to be sure


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
the big contradiction of the Repbulican party is it wants absolute authority over social matters etc.


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then it goes WAIT WAIT


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to stop discrimination or business activity tho!


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the whole Rep policy of "government needs its hands off" makes no fucking sense


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean


[28-Feb-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they're not consistent about it at all


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
gov't needs its hands of-SOMEONE USED THE WRONG BATHROOM? CREATE A LAW


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
States' Rights ties in with that


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's also the angle of "destroy everything the democrats have done," even if it's cutting off your own nose to spite your face


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
see: Romneycare vs. obamacare


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's ultimately an excuse to use gov't to hurt blakk people while not obstructed by a more caring, higher gov't


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I figured that was just partisan bitterness


[28-Feb-19 04:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
do Dems actively try to overturn Rep policies?


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really, no


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And usually they have a better reason


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are reason before authority


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are authority before reason


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
only one of these will try to spite the other


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I always thought of Dems as reason before EMOTION


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and vice versa for Reps


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Dems hav emotion


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Dems are very emotional


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's caring


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, nurturing, yes


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just look at GUNS


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican emotion is fear/anger


[28-Feb-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans doomsay, Democrats hope


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that's what conservatism/liberalism is about


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's just negativity bias, I guess


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is fear of the other


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
people care about negative stuff more


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's just biologically ingrained


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism is...any other approach


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but mostly hugging the other or shrugging


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think your definition of conservatism is a narrower sect of conservatism


[28-Feb-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a bit extremist


[28-Feb-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's not wrong, but doesn't describe all conservatives, per se


[28-Feb-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the core of the issue without putting in left/right explicitly


[28-Feb-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I understand that conservatives tend to resist change and prefer hierarchy


[28-Feb-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I don't think that the "other" has too much to do with that


[28-Feb-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"other" isn't just people


[28-Feb-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's something outside of the "normal"


[28-Feb-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
something to *fear*


[28-Feb-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hierarchy thing tho, that is outside what I'm talking about, I throw that off into left/right


[28-Feb-19 05:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 05:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just brought it up because it *does* define a conservative, even if not too pertinent to our discussion


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, a study was done on liberals and conservatives and responses to graphic imagery


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(whoops tried to predict it and failed)


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
generally,


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals show more brain activity related to parts of the body


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in, they see someone getting shot and hold their chest pretty much


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know that Reps tend to have larger amygdalas


[28-Feb-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives do that less


[28-Feb-19 05:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they're more likely to respond fearfully to new things


[28-Feb-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives also won't follow people's eyes when they look way off to the side in conversation


[28-Feb-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals often will


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Liberals seem to have more empathy


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which is logical given what their platform is


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about this approach to what is outside you


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you go into the dark cave and hug the monster that's begging for help?


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll be honest, my mentality is one of caution towards change


[28-Feb-19 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I specifically picked caution, not fear


[28-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caution is healthy, fear is not.


[28-Feb-19 05:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
fear to me means irrational rejection of anything new


[28-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, anti-anxiety medication reduces racism


[28-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core of our politics right now are people acting irrationally while making up all sorts of lies to say they are


[28-Feb-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but society itself has adopted rationalism out of sheer necessity


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I believe that conservatives tend to be AT LEAST WARY (note that this does include "irrationally fearful") of change


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which means, heck, I'd be conservative under that definition


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wouldn't say it's lies though


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, it's definitely wrong


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it has to be lies, that's the problem


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
our conscious mind does a rotten job of trying to explain our subconscious thoughts


[28-Feb-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society has deemed irrationality to be bad, as science is *required*


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and that's not because we're lying to ourselves with malicious intent


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives can't reconcile this, can't accept irrationality


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They may not even know they're lying


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they hav to lie.


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's going to take many generations to tamp down the fear and irrationality.


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If I'm frank


[28-Feb-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
people will stay emotional


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this often means irrational


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Emotional, yes.


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it can mean rational, certainly


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it'll be harder to defend the irrationality of the fear.


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but "being emotional" can imply both rational and irrational


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it is nearly impossible to stamp out irrationality


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Education


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and wealth.


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv everyone in the South free college


[28-Feb-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
racism will be dead in 30 years.


[28-Feb-19 05:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not sure it's as simple as that


[28-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
People turn to fear because they're isolated and don't understand things, generally.


[28-Feb-19 05:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yes


[28-Feb-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So put them out in the world and tell them what's what.


[28-Feb-19 05:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but college education will NOT let you gain a better grasp of the unconscious


[28-Feb-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will help, but the bigger thing is your kids.


[28-Feb-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence 30 years, not 10 or even 20


[28-Feb-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over generations, families can make leaps away from their previous culture, towards one more in tune with their circumstances.


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
College is not some "irrational b-gone"


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wish it was


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a cure, no, but it does reduce it


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It gives you skills on a certain field


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and yes, in that CERTAIN FIELD, you will act more rational


[28-Feb-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but outside of that field, it still will not be curbed to a significant extent


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why there's classes for outside that field required in most degree programs.


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make people a little more well-rounded.


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I understand that.


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Being exposed to others while at college would do more to curb racism


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I believe this extra supplement is insufficient


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
now that "exposure to others" I understand more


[28-Feb-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Insufficient, maybe


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Add in trains and free buses in every town in the south


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
probably sufficient for under 40 years.


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I honestly like Honahue's "exposure" idea


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
supporting housing that allows for more racial mixing


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
creates at least some connection between people of different races, as they live together


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Access to transportation is the most critical factor in social mobility, add on top of that more mixing


[28-Feb-19 05:14 AM] Honahue#0656
There's science that supports this too


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yes


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
people are more receptive towards others if they're in an ingroup


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this can mean "same neighborhood, same club, etc"


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I didn't come up with that idea on my own


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make the ingroup everyone, and racism cannot flourish.


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
eeyup


[28-Feb-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so better/more widespread transportation, I would support


[28-Feb-19 05:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although this does require a little more thought


[28-Feb-19 05:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
doubtless it would be nice to plop blacks and white together in the same neighborhood and let them commute, work, live together, etc


[28-Feb-19 05:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but the question remains of "how do we get this to happen in the first place?"


[28-Feb-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the whole idea of busing kids to other schools


[28-Feb-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan came over to shit all over it


[28-Feb-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Schools are de facto very segregated


[28-Feb-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that is true


[28-Feb-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and often racist rules and policies tend to keep it that way


[28-Feb-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but how do we overturn those without causing outright over "states' rights?"


[28-Feb-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or "private rights"


[28-Feb-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this seems like a very circular problem, in that trying to make people less racist, you have to... make them less racist


[28-Feb-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what angle you take


[28-Feb-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Republicans will create a way to counteract it with some terminology that makes them sound right


[28-Feb-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in that case


[28-Feb-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only thing you can do is grind them into the dust slowly by calming people down and appealing to the rationality of independents


[28-Feb-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The Dems need to 1. not adopt that terminology


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents determine elections.


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and 2. come up with terminology of their own to counter it


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
rejecting terminology is a big thing Dems often try to do.


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they don't do such a great job at it, unfortunately


[28-Feb-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
when they use terms like "Obamacare" and "tax relief" coined by the right


[28-Feb-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like to insist on calling the ACA Romneycare


[28-Feb-19 05:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least now I see why


[28-Feb-19 05:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
modelled after Romney


[28-Feb-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
More than that


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Third Way is a powerful strategy where you ditch your own beliefs and grab stuff from the enemy


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way when they try to say your beliefs are bad, you show them that what you did is THEIR beliefs


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they just shrivel up in horror


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's mostly an economic thing


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go, as a fiscal conservative "well, gee, socialists, I'll just steal that"


[28-Feb-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they go WAAAAAT


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's probably where the "RINO" bit comes in


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
then as the media gets in on it, they're in a scramble to not destroy their own idea


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"Oh, he's not a TRUE CONSERVATIVE, of course he would advocate it"


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to oppose you


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do it less


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton did it a ton


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush did it a little


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama too


[28-Feb-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton was like "oh you don't like poor people getting welfare?...okay!"


[28-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, they couldn't even impeach him when he got caught lying about an affair


[28-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course


[28-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a bad long term strategy


[28-Feb-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton ended up helping Republicans screw over the poor, leading to an easy Republican victory later


[28-Feb-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, personal unscrupulousness isn't the same as jeopardizing the nation


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
DOMA stalled social issues progress for Dems as well


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and the US did improve under Clinton


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton was tuff on drug crime...that's a huge jeopardy to the nation


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so the impeachment seems a bit petty in retrospect


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're now in the midst of the worst drug crisis ever


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush worsened it after Clinton


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama couldn't do shit


[28-Feb-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump now is left having to ponder doing things that go against his party's core beliefs


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, how do we mitigate it


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
By decriminalizing less harmful drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I agree, but...


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not letting the FDA let companies promote drugs that work no better than aspirin yet are as addictive as heroin and easier to OD on


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
where do we draw the line on "harmful"?


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't greatly matter


[28-Feb-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll be honest, it probably does


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
giv them all pot and it cuts hugfely into the drug trade


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if you define your line


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv them mushrooms too and it's probably sufficient


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the opposition can't use a slippery slope


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
more doesn't hurt


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that we need a particular line


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the whole problem with the gun control and abortion issues is that the line is fuzzy


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that there are ways to undo the drug crisis


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah, ideally there shouldn't be a line


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Republicans don't want you to undo the drug crisis


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but if we want policies to pass


[28-Feb-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
we need a concrete line


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's because they're pretty much downright evil nowadays


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Decriminalizing is a good idea up to a certain extent, and yes, the extent DOES matter.


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fearing minorities and the poor on top of a few other crazy ideas...it all leads to badness.


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it really doesn't


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could just declare all drugs legal and it wouldn't worsen the situation


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the thing about that is, though


[28-Feb-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Portugal did this)


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
drugs DO bring people to behave recklessly


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not the issue


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
while it won't tear apart society completely


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it never was


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it will worsen it


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs making people behave different isn't what the crisis is


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, I understand that


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's completely unrelated to the harms


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it's replacing a problem with another one


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
no it isn't


[28-Feb-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are hugely on drugs right now


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
that harm will be reduced by them being on drugs less with decriminalization


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
explain what you mean by "people being largely on drugs"


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The odd thing about drugs is their power of addiction makes them more used when illegal


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah, it's the whole forbidden fruit mentality, and I do understand that


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's not that


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the market forces


[28-Feb-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
When drugs are illegal, people still want/need them


[28-Feb-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now the suppliers can raise prices


[28-Feb-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the consumers can't get treatment without going to jail


[28-Feb-19 05:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and those are indeed points in your favor


[28-Feb-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is people end up addicted longer and pay a ton, ending up without any money, which leads to vagrancy that means the only thing to do for fun is drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but you cannot ignore many people that *would* start trying dangerous drugs; it's a simple fact that demand increases with market size


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and an industry of the hardest, longest-lasting drugs with the best highs forms


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and these drugs *are* dangerous, and do promote reckless and criminal behavior


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you need drugs to be tiny to get past the cops


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means for the same potency to satisfy someone's urge


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
you want a smaller size


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how do we know that market forces won't select for the same type of drug?


[28-Feb-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
that means people hav to take larger doses even when they want smaller ones


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Longest-lasting, best highs? Those tend to be appealing


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because in places where drugs hav been legalized


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the results are very mild drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
do keep in mind there's some regulation usually


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, of course


[28-Feb-19 05:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not exactly for decriminalizing crack


[28-Feb-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can ban the concentrated form of the drug from sale, or restrict people to so much per month or such


[28-Feb-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
by not making it totally illegal


[28-Feb-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you bring it into the sunlight, where regulation has power


[28-Feb-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
people don't like to go into the dark alleys


[28-Feb-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they will if their addiction demands it.


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's the thing, though


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
regulations need standards


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
... we can just make standards


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, it doesn't greatly matter what standards you set


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can set none


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
people by default generally won't go to excesses


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
some will, most won't, the average will be fine


[28-Feb-19 05:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I suppose


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But particular ones can be better.


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but remember we're basically bringing these illegal drugs from dealers to big pharma


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least we can regulate big pharma


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
big pharma is in the hands of the law


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and big pharma doesn't shoot up mexico


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I would hope


[28-Feb-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
my dealer isn't


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
their malicious behavior is in other areas


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
such as cutting deals with insurance


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of what big pharma is doing that's real bad


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
as far as drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
is raising prices and pushing them with advertizing on people who don't need them


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
along with letting doctors make deals under the table to ship off tons more opioids than needed


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
therein lies part of the problem with big pharma in control


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that is fixable, though


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they want you to buy their drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
while both doctor and patient believe opioids are necessary


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
just nobody has the balls to do it yet


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
in most countries, this is not the case


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
simply putting drugs in the hands of big pharmas means that there will still be addicts


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many countries bar pharma from making ads AT ALL


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
now just because of market forces


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, there will always be some addicts


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
no matter what you do


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's rule #1 of durgs


[28-Feb-19 05:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I believe that the number will increase


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they do what they're doing with opioids on other drugs, sure


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's fixable.


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other countries show us better systems.


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because big pharma will see the marketability with drugs and then try and make them as much as possible.


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Just levy taxes on the drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Then use the taxes to fund rehab programs


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Problem solved


[28-Feb-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
we do that with smoking and drinking


[28-Feb-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the problem isn't quite solved with either yet


[28-Feb-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
more so the former, admittedly


[28-Feb-19 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
People do hard drugs generally not because they can, they do it because life without them sucks. Joe the accountant with a decent IRA and 401k and family isn't going to shoot black tar heroin all of a suddenly cause it's legal


[28-Feb-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and if Joe's life collapses?


[28-Feb-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Quite likely he will


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Then he might and he needs help.and throwing him in jail isn't


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get that


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but a legal option for coping is an appealing option


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
smoking is on a massive decline


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
with vaping not making up for it, either


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Joes on aggregate will be more willing to test out these new drugs that are now legal


[28-Feb-19 05:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because the impression is that "legal = safe"


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, he'll try pot and mushrooms and crakk and meth


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he realizes crakk and meth screw him up bad, pot is probably the best


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
once he realizes the former 2 are dangerous, he's already addicted


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he does end up addicted, friends get him into rehab


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
because no fear of jail


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not how that works


[28-Feb-19 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
In countries that have decriminalized, they do see an uptic in use immediately but then it drops off


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not doubting that, but can I have some specific examples to confirm?


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Portugal


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
All the scandinavian countries


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get him the PDFs etc.


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
alright


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Switzerland


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
or at least articles


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did The Netherlands do full decrim?


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
People can try something they always wanted too but more importantly the people with an addiction can see a doctor and get help so use drops.off


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or is theirs some weird hybrid thing?


[28-Feb-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
you don't normally get addicted from a single use of a drug


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
addiction is not something you can get with one use, ever


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
for the stronger ones, that is a distinct possibility


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Portugal decriminalized, it's still illegal to sell.certain drugs or have intent to sell but use isn't a crime


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
addiction is a psychological need for a substance that you can only get by repeatedly using it


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That at least gets people to rehab.


[28-Feb-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's like getting a parking ticket instead of being thrown in jail for life


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
for possession with the intent to sell


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Honahue#0656
So users can get help without fear if jail


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hm.


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Don't confuse addiction with dependence


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
whoever was talking about limiting concentrations, that is probably the right way to go


[28-Feb-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was mentioning that


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
pot dispensaries usually hav some kind of limits


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Addiction at least in rat studies is more about environment than availably


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why am I so fixated on drawing the line? because that matters with regulation and passing laws


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Rats in social.groups don't do drugs even with the option


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but pot is a weird example anyways


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
remember that big pharma won't take the regulations lying down


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not very addictive and you can't OD on it


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they'll try to hem and haw


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
any talk of regulations inevitably reaches a discussion of drawing the line


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they will, for sure


[28-Feb-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but at least you can eventually twist their arm.


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and having a clear-cut, evidence-supported line makes big pharma less likely to hem and haw in the first place


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't ever do that with criminals.


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to get something in daylight and not be killing it for it to respond to your orders.


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I suppose that different drugs can come in different concentrations


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's more or less what's already happening, frankly


[28-Feb-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
example: morphine, etc


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I do want to get one thing out of the way right now though


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
morphine is interesting


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the UK uses it in ambulances


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We should still ban drugs for recreational use


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
err


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
got that reversed


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the UK uses Herion in ambulances


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
medicinal use, sure, I like limiting concentrations and all


[28-Feb-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
while the US uses the less potent Morphine


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
neither really cause addiction in medicinal use


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
You can't buy more than 9g of Sudafed in a month and that's worked, now.most meth comes in from out of country


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and that's kind of what happens already


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I still firmly hold against legalizing for recreational use


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using morphine instead of herion just doesn't help us any, in our ambulances


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the same end result


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
for the stronger stuff, that is


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's not suuuuper easy to OD on either


[28-Feb-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people don't get pushed into using them easily


[28-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
The name heroin comes from hero because it was used to cure people's morphine addictions


[28-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
No big pharma telling you to take morphine


[28-Feb-19 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Morphine used to be cough medicine


[28-Feb-19 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
heroin is the common name for diacetylmorphine


[28-Feb-19 05:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"late 19th century: from German Heroin, from Latin heros ‘hero’ (because of its effects on the user's self-esteem)"


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
which is just... a morphine dimer joined by an acetyl group


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
not due to curbing morphine addiction to any extent I can see


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
drug use actually has social uses in the US, like social drinking, social smoking, etc


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
well, mostly social drinking


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, that's the thing with chemistry


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
there's no hookah bars that I know of in the US


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Minor changes lead to big effects


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
L and D enantiomers, for example


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the "harder" opioids have structures unrelated to morphine


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
There's a bunch of hookah bars near me


[28-Feb-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
the reason why rats didn't do drugs when they were in rat park is because it got in the way of normal social interaction


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Exactly, same could be for humans too


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Smoking tobacoo doesn't affect you mentally as badly as harder drugs


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
like alcohol


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Alcohol


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 05:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's probs why alcohol and smoking are legal


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
You need a lot of alcohol


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
and all they do is sleep, play, fight, mate, and forage, but humans have much more complex social interactions


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
although smoking wreaks havoc physiologically


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Not everyone drinks to get shitty


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
like you can't do business in japan without drinking alcohol


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
No, but it's very easy to get shitfaced


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
And it can easily be lethal


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Alcohol and smoking are all used socially


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
with alcohol you probably black out before you OD


[28-Feb-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
unless you're actively seeking suicide by alcohol


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
cocaine is socially used as well (illicitly, but still)


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Cannabis has many similar mental effects, but is much milder


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Cannabis >>>> alcohol for me


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crakk is superior to cocaine


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's also why it's seeing legalization in a lot of regards


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
But a lot of the culture of drinking is shitty too it's not just the access to alcohol


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't snort things, seriously


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but of course


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think marijuana is fine


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
crakk is done by blakk people, so a racist testified to congress


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's relatively harmless


[28-Feb-19 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Most countries let people drink younger than in the US


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
so there's STILL disparities in punishment


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
why is snorting cocaine even a thing


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
that sounds disgusting


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it gets you high FAST


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
you can smoke cocaine apparently


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
if you want to get high fast you don't have many options


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it's not nearly as rapid an effect as a snort


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Cocaine is a topical anesthetic


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
you can basically snort it, take it sublingually, or rectally


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Schedule 2 drug


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
different methods of injection have different effects


[28-Feb-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/teaching-packets/neurobiology-drug-addiction/section-iv-action-cocaine/2-snorting-vs-smoking-cocaine-different-a

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2: Snorting vs smoking cocaine: different addictive liabilities
https://www.drugabuse.gov/sites/default/files/nih_nida_logo_socialmedia.png


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and snorting is the dangerous one


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
parachuting it will always take the longest


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it's also the one that gets the brain effects ASAP


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
apparently you get high even faster by smoking it


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
at least dissolve it in some water first so you don't tear open the blood vessels up there


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
since it travels from the lungs directly to the brain


[28-Feb-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
snorting powder is dumb


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
lungs directly to brain? that doesn't seem very direct, if I'm being honest


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why is it fast?


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
oxygenated blood travels from the lung to the heart to the brain


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Enters the bloodstream at the alveoli immediately


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
when snorted, it has to travel to the heart, to the lungs, back to the heart, and then to the brain


[28-Feb-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but isn't there a blood-brain barrier?


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh wait that's applicable for snorting too isn't it


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
drugs bypass it like it isn't even there


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
some drugs do


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
it only really stops big things


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the blood-brain barrier prevents large water-soluble xenobiotics from entering the ICF


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah I goofed


[28-Feb-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
smoking is faster


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but smoking = crack


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least that's what's typically smoked


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, blood-brain barrier is only really effective at stopping bigger bacteria from getting in for free


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
you can't really smoke cocaine directly, because its usual acid salt form is cocaine HCl


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
drugs too small, I guess


[28-Feb-19 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
which when heated emits hydrochloric acid gas


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that shit ain't fun


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
p sure crack gets rid of that acid somehow


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] Honahue#0656
You can sprinkle cocaine on a cigarette and smoke it that's definitely a thing


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the process of making crack is just neutralizing the acid


[28-Feb-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
you turn it into the free base form


[28-Feb-19 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Ah yes free base cocaine


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
this is somewhat more complicated with cocaine because iirc it has two amines at different positions in the molecules that both get salted normally


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
so you have to free both of them


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just looked up cocaine's structure


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
hmm... no, it only has one


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it has one tertiary amine


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't see the other - oh, ok


[28-Feb-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
which one am I thinking of


[28-Feb-19 06:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
definitely not meth or heroin


[28-Feb-19 06:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
both of those only have one amine


[28-Feb-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
not sure, I definitely know there's one with two amines


[28-Feb-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
and comes in acid salt and free base


[28-Feb-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I remember reading about it but can't for the life of me think of the name


[28-Feb-19 06:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
barbiturates have two amide nitrogens?


[28-Feb-19 06:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
might not be what you're looking for tho


[28-Feb-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
was definitely amine, not amide


[28-Feb-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody uses barbiturates recreationally


[28-Feb-19 06:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there's a "rauwolscine" with two amines


[28-Feb-19 06:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[28-Feb-19 06:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's a stimulant


[28-Feb-19 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
whatever, I can't remember it


[28-Feb-19 06:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh well


[28-Feb-19 06:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
still though, limited medicinal use, sure


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there are much more dangerous drugs than crack that are legal


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but are dilute enough and regulated


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
fentanyl


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
that has legitimate medical use, though


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
one of them is an amide


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's used as a general anaesthetic


[28-Feb-19 06:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but you probably changed the subject


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought you did with "there are much more dangerous drugs than crack that are legal"


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
right


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sorry


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I saw the two nitrogens and my brain immediately switched back


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but yes


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess if cocaine/heroin do have medicinal use


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they can be used as such


[28-Feb-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I still don't think the stronger stuff should be used recreationally


[28-Feb-19 06:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
cocaine as a social drug is too dangerous in my eyes


[28-Feb-19 06:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
for the same reason you wouldn't use a lot of medicines as social drugs


[28-Feb-19 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
cocaine is fine


[28-Feb-19 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I worry for meth users though


[28-Feb-19 06:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
basically, anything that requires extensive preparation to be safely used socially probably shouldn't be used as such


[28-Feb-19 06:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if that doesn't pertain to cocaine, sure


[28-Feb-19 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you can just chew coca...


[28-Feb-19 06:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so that would fall under "doesn't pertain to cocaine"


[28-Feb-19 06:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I might have been inaccurate in my assessment as cocaine as too dangerous, that's just me using an erroneous example


[28-Feb-19 06:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but the point remains


[28-Feb-19 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
non-methylated amphetamines are enough to seriously alter my mental state


[28-Feb-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
can only imagine what meth would do


[28-Feb-19 06:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
pretty much


[28-Feb-19 06:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so we shouldn't be shooting each other up over meth, but we shouldn't just be haphazardly shooting it up either


[28-Feb-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
you shouldn't be shooting it up at all


[28-Feb-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
if you must have it, smoke it or parachute it


[28-Feb-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
don't snort it and don't stick it in your anus


[28-Feb-19 06:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 06:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess I should just avoid trying to use examples for now


[28-Feb-19 06:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it just detracts from my overall stance on the drug crisis


[28-Feb-19 06:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which has changed a bit as a result of this discussion


[28-Feb-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
don't focus on the drug crisis more than you need to


[28-Feb-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a red herring to distract you from the economic crisis


[28-Feb-19 06:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If that's really what it's supposed to be, it isn't quite working lol


[28-Feb-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the rich have turned the middle class and poor against each other, robbed them both while they weren't looking, and made off like bandits


[28-Feb-19 06:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
we started talk on the drug crisis because we already acknowledged the shitfest that is our economic system


[28-Feb-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
fix the economics and the incentives to do drugs in the first place vanish


[28-Feb-19 06:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
honestly, before we do anything about all that, we need to stop lobbyism


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's a truth


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I don't really know how..


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because to stop lobbyists, you have to somehow change the voice of lobbyist-influenced congressmen


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
but then who will suck off the congressmen?


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
if you ban all the lobbyists there'll be an acute shortage of prostitutes in DC


[28-Feb-19 06:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:GWcfcThonk:


[28-Feb-19 06:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get that "ban/curb lobbyism" is kind of a "DUUUHHHHH"


[28-Feb-19 06:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but the way to do that is very far from "duh"


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
campaign finance reform


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and without doing that first, I don't really think we can address any of the problems that you bring up


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
funding mandates


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
through what means?


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
restrictions on donations


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Citizens United needs to be overturned


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
A lot of stuff


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
these are all laws, right?


[28-Feb-19 06:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
congressmen write the laws


[28-Feb-19 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and lobbyists will work overtime


[28-Feb-19 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
to make sure that these reforms get shot down


[28-Feb-19 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Most importantly, people need to actually vote


[28-Feb-19 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
The 17th amendment broke federal congress


[28-Feb-19 06:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how so


[28-Feb-19 06:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
you mean in that it made it so that the senate is tone-deaf to the voice of the people?


[28-Feb-19 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
ironically yes


[28-Feb-19 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
people don't vote for senators in their own best interests, but state legislatures absolutely did for their own before the 17th


[28-Feb-19 06:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
to curb lobbyism, I agree we need campaign finance reform, funding mandates, etc etc


[28-Feb-19 06:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but how do we institute that in the first place?


[28-Feb-19 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
bottom up approach


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
you need to tackle it at every level


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Changing the 17th is going to be pretty hard, by virtue of the fact that its deleterious effects aren't *obvious*


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the only option I can think of right now is perhaps referendums


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or initiatives


[28-Feb-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and the like


[28-Feb-19 06:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that should get motions in with state legislature


[28-Feb-19 06:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and we can curb the rich's effect on state legislature, which is nice


[28-Feb-19 06:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but how do we go from state to federal?


[28-Feb-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, apparently conservatives are now saying that cortez isn't a "True Socialist™" because she receives a salary that's more than the people who work for her


[28-Feb-19 06:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that makes 0 sense


[28-Feb-19 06:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also fucking "no true scotsman"


[28-Feb-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, why? What does distancing AOC from "socialism®™©" gain them now


[28-Feb-19 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that seems a bit counterintuitive given how much of a boogeyman they want her to be


[28-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Call her Alexandria


[28-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling her AOC is just another way they want to dehumanize her


[28-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make her not sound like a person


[28-Feb-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also TLAs are bad.


[28-Feb-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also helps to be consistent. First name's acceptable, last name's acceptable, anything else...not really.


[28-Feb-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie/Trump/Hillary/McConnel/etc.


[28-Feb-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony They're not trying to distance Alexandria from socialism


[28-Feb-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to say she's not genuine


[28-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, on the right, it's a really big deal to be genuine, that's what they love about Trump


[28-Feb-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho he's a huge liar, he's genuine in the sense of being a huge bigoted asshole upfront


[28-Feb-19 06:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, I doubt she *is* a true socialist


[28-Feb-19 06:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in the first place


[28-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the left fighting itself.


[28-Feb-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over things like who to trust, what's what.


[28-Feb-19 06:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's like saying I'm not a "true slime monster from Io"


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they want to assassinate people's character in front of independents.


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, duh


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same as what they're doing with Cohen


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(and no, I do not equate socialists to alien slime monsters)


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want what he says, even the truth, to be muddled and unacceptable


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they can say "well he did bad stuff, so it's all bullshit"


[28-Feb-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
BSABSVR


[28-Feb-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
someone's past doesn't change the fact they're speaking the truth, dammit


[28-Feb-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
can someone from the Dems firmly tell the Reps that


[28-Feb-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
instead of letting all these attacks on character go unresponded to


[28-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, authority before reason


[28-Feb-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are very big on principles


[28-Feb-19 06:51 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans have indirectly harmed you
democrats have lied to you
-------
∴ bsabsvr


[28-Feb-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and I wish I knew what that stood for


[28-Feb-19 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
∴ U+2234 "THEREFORE"


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
on duties, obligations, loyalty, too.


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both Sides Are Bad, So Vote Republican.


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to confuse everyone, make them uncertain


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
then swindle them like a used car salesman


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the Republican party


[28-Feb-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reps prey on fear


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because scared people tend to vote Republican


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basic FUD, yep.


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or more conservative


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
they are fear, fear itself


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
and we have nothing to fear but fear itself


[28-Feb-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but fear itself is a strong factor for voting Republican in the polls :/


[28-Feb-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly their strategy.


[28-Feb-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make you afraid, even of them, because in the end it'll make you vote for them.


[28-Feb-19 06:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
damn that's low


[28-Feb-19 06:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how do Dems counter that


[28-Feb-19 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
education


[28-Feb-19 06:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You're probs right, but that's pretty vague


[28-Feb-19 06:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
whaddaya mean in that regard


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you immunize people against the bullshit


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
giv them actual information.


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only do they then not accept the bullshit


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because they know something, instead of nothing, they're less afraid.


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is, of course...a hard thing to do when you want to stop a force that operates on emotion.


[28-Feb-19 07:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how do we keep it ingrained


[28-Feb-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
facts leave the brain (as I can testify repeatedly)


[28-Feb-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but emotions don't


[28-Feb-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, sure, eventually they do, but they get reinforced pretty easy


[28-Feb-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and how do we stop the opposition from crying out "fake news"


[28-Feb-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's such a stupid defense, but for whatever reason, it works in keeping people immune to education


[28-Feb-19 07:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or render such cries less effective


[28-Feb-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't.


[28-Feb-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way it ultimately works is first information wins unless someone's unusually skeptical of their own beliefs.


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the only winning strategy is to get the information taught early and often in schools.


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You mean for swing voters, right?


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
For everyone.


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
just people in general


[28-Feb-19 07:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
get 'em early, I guess


[28-Feb-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wait I just need to reconcile something in my head


[28-Feb-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep. And that's why education is such a big issue politically.


[28-Feb-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I assumed by education you meant "informing people on the issues"


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but you're talking about early schooling


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't want the kindergarten saying that two daddies is okay.


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause kids will grow up thinking that and will ask "so what the gays are adopting?"


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah...you can't really educate adults easily.


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this may work for social issues and the like


[28-Feb-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to already be interested in what you're saying.


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mainly hav to undercut by going to the kids.


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but what about getting facts known about more short-term issues at hand?


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same rule applies


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
first information wins.


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to be prepared to spread facts at a moment's notice ahead of idiocy, basically.


[28-Feb-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a hard thing to do properly.


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think what the Dems have to do is be willing to spread facts that don't fit their agenda


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that's another reason they don't want gays adopting to begin with...


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and stress facts first


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't necessarily believe gay parents will make children drug addicts


[28-Feb-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they know that children raised by gays will think it's okay to be gay


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and parents interacting will realize the gays are alright


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you change parenting, you change what kids think, so you change culture


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought gays were largely accepted at this point in time


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are by the more liberal people


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's a huuuuge issue still


[28-Feb-19 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
It's more accepted but there's plenty of places with normalized homophobia


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also, just saying, showering them with facts is necessary, but these facts need to be emotionally resonant


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
otherwise they won't stick


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Recently a teacher in Kansas came out as bi


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
we can't just throw around numbers and figures and factoids


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to help a student not kill herself


[28-Feb-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was promptly fired on some obvious bullshit


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
In many states, teachers aren't allowed to talk about homosexuality to kids, period.


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a violation of the 1st amendment


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or, counties in states, I think it was.


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
There's also a whole problem with culture around education too, a lot.of people look at it as making you employable which is a shitty lens to view education through


[28-Feb-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wait why not


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
1st amendment doesn't apply to teaching stuff


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a huge civil rights thing


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"it's legal but you're fired anyway"


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Kansas is an at-will state


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
They can do whatever


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a public school, byte


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
different rules


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
also


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you can show it's for being gay


[28-Feb-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Title VII applies


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh I thought it was private


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Proving intent is always a problem in courts though


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but they stated a specific reason


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
one they weren't willing to share info on


[28-Feb-19 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
That helps his case immensly lots of people don't get that


[28-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's requirements on the firing process in schools, very important for this kind of thing.


[28-Feb-19 07:13 AM] Honahue#0656
My state still allows discrimination against trans people


[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way US discrimination law works, sex is a protected class


[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know that the Alexandria discussion ended 'bout 40 minutes ago, but I'll just paste in this picture I find apt and move it along


[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even if gender identity or sexual orientation aren't listed


[28-Feb-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
they de facto are protected classes because discriminating on them requires sex-based discrimination


[28-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've just got to make sure you don't end up with a real shitty judge


[28-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
or can appeal stuff


[28-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local judges will just go with whatever discrimination


[28-Feb-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thing is


[28-Feb-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how are Reps trying to veil this obvious homophobia


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sex base stereotypes are sex discrimination


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are.


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it is very hard to say orientation isn't sex based discrimination


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, when you judge based on stereotypes, that is.


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it is inherently based on what people perceive the proper place of the sexes


[28-Feb-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't need to speak for that school in Kansas


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
what they do instead is speak generally


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey it was a Reagan era SCOTUS case


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
about how WE DON'T TEACH THAT KINDA THANG etc.


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
How it's not appropriate for kids


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So they probably believed sodomy laws would stand forever


[28-Feb-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a defliction away from the issue being one of discrimination


[28-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how any extra protected classes are just LIBRALS TRYN' TO GET LAWSUITS


[28-Feb-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
politics drives me nuts; it's so easy to see through bullshit and yet so hard to do anything about it


[28-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[28-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You cannot separate sexual orientation from your biological sex.


[28-Feb-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is obiectively impossible.


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your biological sex determines the name of what your sexuality is


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could hav it such that you fire employees who think men are hot


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
regardless of what sex they are


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They are either straight or bisexual.


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's like, blue and orange morality


[28-Feb-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way connected to their sex.


[28-Feb-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, my mom keeps bemoaning how she "let the schools 'get' me and my brother" on "propaganda" like "global warming" when both of us got it from the internet, and even I used to agree with all the bullshit the talking heads she listened to said because that was literally my only source of information


[28-Feb-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
but once I started looking stuff up myself on the internet, I realized it was all bullshit that's easily disproved by even the smallest amount of evidence from any other angle with a bit of critical thinking


[28-Feb-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
she's kind of turned off her critical thinking in the past 10 years or so, I feel like the talking heads like hannity, limbaugh, mark levin, etc specifically design their shows to turn off critical thinking


[28-Feb-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
by reusing the same talking points over and over from all sorts of different angles over and over until listeners just numbly nod their heads, not realizing they're agreeing to something they already heard the same person say while thinking it was their own conclusion


[28-Feb-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Helps when the local news is in on it


[28-Feb-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone on your slice of TV saying the same thing


[28-Feb-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
pretty hard to think critically etc.


[28-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/chief-justice-roberts-joins-liberals-supreme-court-ruling-death-penalty-n976906

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Chief Justice Roberts joins liberals in court's ruling for death r...
Alabama prisoner Vernon Madison killed a police officer in 1985.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_09/2767531/190227-2x1-vernon-madison-ew-1121a_40fd1897afe43e7f01f1e0fafafa9933.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Feb-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
apparently roberts is the new swing vote


[28-Feb-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has been known for a while


[28-Feb-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/27/us/12-year-old-arrested-swastikas-playground/index.html

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12-year-old charged with drawing anti-Semitic graffiti on school p...
A 12-year-old boy was arrested and charged with aggravated harassment on Wednesday after anti-Semitic graffiti was found drawn on a schoolyard in Queens last week, according to NYPD spokesperson Detective George Tsourovakas.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190223143948-03-swastikas-found-at-new-york-elementary-school-super-tease.jpg


[28-Feb-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Jfc


[28-Feb-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
They arrested a 12 year old for being an edgy dumbass and intend to actually charge him


[28-Feb-19 02:49 PM] byte[]#2610
a _12 year old_


[28-Feb-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that's what 12 year olds do


[28-Feb-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they take things they are told are bad and do them to garner attention to themselves


[28-Feb-19 03:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The tables at my schools were covered in swastikas.


[28-Feb-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sometimes kids just draw stuff absent mindedly without even looking


[28-Feb-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like swastikas or that S thing


[28-Feb-19 05:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
He probably drank a lot of milk when he was younger 🙃


[28-Feb-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1a282706835d427184efc29700f94121

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Trump, Kim end summit with standoff over easing US sanctions
HANOI, Vietnam (AP) — Talks between President Donald Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong Un collapsed Thursday after the two sides failed to bridge a standoff over U.S. sanctions, a dispiriting end...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:1d52b2c3642846a48eedcb580a0f4271/3000.jpeg


[28-Feb-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'd rather do it right than do it fast"- man who declared national emergency to do things fast and wrong over a border wall


[28-Feb-19 06:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Only after two efforts to do it through Congress failed


[28-Feb-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he tried to do it fast and wrong with that too


[28-Feb-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that's besides the point. the talks with NK failed :  Talks between President Donald Trump and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un collapsed Thursday after the two sides failed to bridge a standoff over U.S. sanctions, a dispiriting end to high-stakes meetings meant to disarm a global nuclear threat.

Trump blamed the breakdown on North Korea’s insistence that all the punishing sanctions the U.S. has imposed on Pyongyang be lifted without the North committing to eliminate its nuclear arsenal.

“Sometimes you have to walk,” Trump explained at a closing news conference after the summit was abruptly cut short. He said there had been a proposed agreement that was “ready to be signed.”

“I’d much rather do it right than do it fast,” Trump said. “We’re in position to do something very special.”

Mere hours after both nations had seemed hopeful of a deal, the two leaders’ motorcades roared away from the downtown Hanoi summit site within minutes of each other, their lunch canceled and a signing ceremony scuttled. The president’s closing news conference was hurriedly moved up, and he departed for Washington more than two hours ahead of schedule.


[28-Feb-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen thing pissed him off lmao


[28-Feb-19 06:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen did probably lie about not wanting a WH job but the check doesn't lie


[28-Feb-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cohen probably wanted it at first and then quickly regretted it once it started


[28-Feb-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The failure in Hanoi laid bare a risk in Trump’s unpredictable negotiating style: Preferring one-on-one meetings with his foreign counterparts, his administration often eschews the staff-level work done in advance to assure a deal and envisions summits more as messaging opportunities than venues for hardline negotiation."


[28-Feb-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump isnt cut out for hardline negotiations with foreign leaders, all of his tactics are real estate and car salesman strategies.not to mention the no staff backroom dealings dont hold anywater when you cant get anything in writing


[28-Feb-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/middleeast/israel-benjamin-netanyahu-indictment-intl/index.html

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Israel's Netanyahu to be indicted on corruption charges, pending h...
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will be charged with bribery, fraud and breach of trust arising from three separate corruption investigations, pending a hearing, according to a source with direct knowledge of the decision by Israel's attorney general, in a major blo...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190228101004-02-benjamin-netanyahu-lead-super-tease.jpg


[28-Feb-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not denied this lmao

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[28-Feb-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, how can you tell he violated campaign finance laws from a personal check?


[28-Feb-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was to reimburse Cohen for the Daniels payment


[28-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
why is the daniels payment illegal from personal funds? congress apparently had a slush fund for paying off settlements from sexually harassed and assaulted people


[28-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
and afaik they still haven't tracked down that money


[28-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe it is because it was meant to be something that influenced the election


[28-Feb-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But other people can chime in @Nebbie


[28-Feb-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow $130k was paid by Cohen to Daniels on the order of Trump prior to the end of the election


[28-Feb-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This $35k was a partial reimbursement by Trump after he took office


[28-Feb-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
why is that illegal if he's using his own personal money?


[28-Feb-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because *anything* you giv to try to influence an election's outcome is considered a contribution


[28-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of where the money came from or who it's going to.


[28-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hush money is thus a campaign contribution.


[28-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, a contribution by Cohen to the Trump campaign


[28-Feb-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
arranged by Trump


[28-Feb-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
$130k is well above individual contribution limits.


[28-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Has to be disclosed


[28-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't


[28-Feb-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a second violation, here, actually


[28-Feb-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Candidates can spend as much personal money as they want as long as they disclose it


[28-Feb-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the trouble here is *Cohen* was spending that money.


[28-Feb-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Effectively as a loan to the Trump campaign.


[28-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just go and ask your personal lawyer to giv your campaign $130k to be paid off after you become president


[28-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
what's the individual contribution limit, and does it still apply to payments made after the campaign is over?


[28-Feb-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
$2,700, and no


[28-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's paying off of the loan is irrelevant, that chekk in itself is legal


[28-Feb-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
what's illegal is the loan it's paying off, and the lakk of disclosure of the loan.


[28-Feb-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump had just written a $130k chekk to Daniels himself, and disclosed it, it would've been legal.


[28-Feb-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
But not disclosing it is the whole point of hush money, that's why these laws are written.


[28-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And having Cohen do it is also part of the point


[28-Feb-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Cohen was able to make the money harder to trace


[28-Feb-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having your personal lawyer organize shell companies to put his money into your campaign's silencing of those who might reveal dirt on you, with a promise you can pay him bakk when you are making more money as president...


[28-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, Trump didn't truly need to cheat so badly, but that's the thing about corruption.


[28-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about cheating even when you don't need to to flagrantly walk all over honest politics.


[28-Feb-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not something that you should really tolerate.


[28-Feb-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/house-criminal-referral-michael-cohen/index.html

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GOP lawmakers ask DOJ to investigate Cohen for perjury
Two of President Donald Trump's closest allies on the House Judiciary Committee referred Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to the Justice Department Thursday for possible criminal prosecution, claiming to have evidence that Cohen "committed perjury and knowingly ...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190227121625-01-cohen-gop-inset-super-tease.jpg


[28-Feb-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
"Two of President Donald Trump's closest allies on the House Judiciary Committee referred Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to the Justice Department Thursday for possible criminal prosecution, claiming to have evidence that Cohen "committed perjury and knowingly made false statements" to lawmakers during his day-long testimony Wednesday."


[28-Feb-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
this is how the republicans plan on getting cohen's testimony thrown out


[28-Feb-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
>Yet Republicans have pointed to court filings from prosecutors in the Southern District of New York that stated Cohen "privately told friends and colleagues, including in seized text messages, that he expected to be given a prominent role and title in the new administration" -- an assertion Cohen said Wednesday was "not inaccurate."


[28-Feb-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
there's a difference between expecting to receive a job and turning it down lol


[28-Feb-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
"I don't have any knowledge of that. He said he wasn't (lobbying for a job) and I believe him," Cummings said. "I mean, think about it. He could make a helluva lot more money, a helluva lot more money, outside the White House than in the White House. I mean, I don't know why you would want to do that."


[28-Feb-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't trying to actually catch him on anything, Crow


[28-Feb-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is the investigation itself will create uncertainty


[28-Feb-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a party line that Trump's base can adhere to


[28-Feb-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a bit of a vague statement


[28-Feb-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And I'm amazed how many people don't get why the hush money thing isn't allowed


[28-Feb-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen spent his own money for Trump and Trump reimbursed him


[28-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
None of this was disclosed


[28-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That makes it illegal


[28-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think they get confused about who paid whom


[28-Feb-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause at issue is a $35k chekk from Trump to Cohen, but that's not what's illegal


[28-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen's payment was illegal


[28-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump told Cohen to make an illegal payment and then reimbursed him later


[28-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to understand is that Cohen didn't just pay Daniels, Cohen effectively did a loan to Trump to pay Daniels, but bypassed Trump in the actual transaction and used shell companies to further hide it.


[28-Feb-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the $35k is evidence of repaying the loan.


[28-Feb-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot just loan a presidential campaign $130k to influence the election and not disclose it.


[28-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/trump-kim-summit-north-korea-nuclear-talks-a8802071.html

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North Korea disputes Trump's explanation for breakdown of nuclear ...
US national security advisor John Bolton accused of 'moving the goalposts'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/02/28/12/trumpkim-realistic-0.jpg


[28-Feb-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>when north korea is a more credible source of information than the us president


[28-Feb-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
tbh that sounds like a more reasonable explanation for the breakdown in negotiations than saying complete sanction lift for complete nuclear disarmament


[28-Feb-19 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
yikes, tsp


[28-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
in the end, complete sanction lift wouldn't do much for a country like NK anyway


[28-Feb-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
they have literally no market other than weapons, the rest is super illegal shit


[28-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
and natural resources, but those play second string to the illegal shit


[28-Feb-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd mean they can house all the low skill/tech factories China doesn't want to care about


[28-Feb-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Trump committed the crime because he told Cohen to make the payment and reimbursement?


[28-Feb-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/donald-trump-otto-warmbier-kim-jong-un/index.html

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Donald Trump's shocking, shameful about-face on Otto Warmbier
When Otto Warmbier was returned to the United States in 2017 and died shortly afterward, President Donald Trump condemned the North Korean regime for the imprisonment and suspected torture of the college student who was arrested in 2015 for alleged spying.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160229101011-otto-warmbier-3-super-tease.jpeg


[28-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
>Fast forward to Thursday in Hanoi, when, at a summit with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Trump said this of Warmbier and North Korea: "He tells me that he didn't know about it and I will take him at his word." Trump added that Kim "felt badly about it. He felt very badly."


[28-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
>Wait. WHAT?


[28-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
>Trump is, apparently, taking the word of a brutal dictator who had his half-brother murdered with nerve gas at an airport and who continues to live a posh lifestyle while his country suffers the effects of staggering economic sanctions? The guy who North Korean media says began driving a car at age 3, helped cure Ebola and can control the weather? We're going to believe THAT guy???


[28-Feb-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
>On its face, Kim's claim that he was unaware of Warmbier's arrest and treatment is beyond laughable. Kim rules North Korea with an iron fist. He wouldn't know that an American college student had been arrested in his country? He would miss how Warmbier's arrest and incarceration became a massive national and international story? And at no time in the 18 months Warmbier was held would anyone in Kim's government ever see fit to mention that they were holding an American prisoner?


[28-Feb-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
wtf https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/28/woman-who-grabbed-maga-hat-off-mans-head-facing-deportation

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Woman who grabbed Maga hat off man's head facing deportation
Rosiane Santos charged after objecting to Trump-themed cap but lawyer denies Brazil-born Santos is in US illegally
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/507a3978045b68fcaf22fae63cf0b699617e5aa6/0_125_3700_2221/master/3700.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=50d7512b443465d83ae7536f5e720f47


[28-Feb-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
a woman who's here legally pending her green card has been charged with "assault and battery" for grabbing some dude's MAGA hat off of his head


[28-Feb-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
and ICE picked her up and is trying to rush a deportation


[28-Feb-19 09:36 PM] Mikey#7286
wew


[28-Feb-19 09:37 PM] Mikey#7286
"""""""assault and battery""""""""


[28-Feb-19 09:37 PM] Mikey#7286
for taking a man's hat off


[28-Feb-19 09:37 PM] Mikey#7286
ohnoess


[28-Feb-19 09:37 PM] Mikey#7286
how will he ever recover


[28-Feb-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unwanted physical contact is battery, even if it's just a nose boop


[28-Feb-19 09:39 PM] Mikey#7286
i thought it was beating someone


[28-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
no, assault is threatening violence, battery is actually touching


[28-Feb-19 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(tort)

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Battery (tort)
At common law, battery is the tort of intentionally (or, in Australia, negligently) and voluntarily bringing about an unconsented harmful or offensive contact with a person or to something closely associated with them (e.g. a hat, a purse). Unlike assault, in which the fear o...


[28-Feb-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
kind of ironic that a big bad MAGA type is pushing charges for such a tiny thing


[28-Feb-19 09:42 PM] Mikey#7286
that's what i got from merriam webster


[28-Feb-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
they're supposed to be big and tough and most definitely not special snowflakes who're easily offended


[28-Feb-19 09:42 PM] Mikey#7286
[shrug]


[28-Feb-19 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lawyers are the new guns


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can ruin someone's life forever with a lawyer, and fully legally, much better than with a beating


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Mikey#7286
i guess booping is harmful or offensive then?


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tort is different from being criminally charged


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is if the booped considers it so


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Mikey#7286
that's what the link says


[28-Feb-19 09:43 PM] Mikey#7286
who would consider being booped offensive or harmful


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone that wants to fuck you over


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eggshell skull


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Mikey#7286
what


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe you boop them and break their skull


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Mikey#7286
ok


[28-Feb-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you bump into someone on the subway and they ask for ID, /run/


[28-Feb-19 09:45 PM] Mikey#7286
o.o


[28-Feb-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The "formula" for battery is one of the things that gets drilled into your head first in school


[28-Feb-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And this


[28-Feb-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt_v._Dailey

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Garratt v. Dailey
Garratt v. Dailey, 46 Wash. 2d 197, 279 P.2d 1091 (Wash. 1955) is a famous tort law case that illustrates the principle of "intent" for intentional torts.


[28-Feb-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJpnm1vwc_I

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Jim Sterling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJpnm1vwc_I
The Social Shitshow Cycle (The Jimquisition)
http://www.patreon.com/jimquisition http://www.thejimquisition.com https://www.thejimporium.com THQ Nordic held an AMA this week. THQ Nordic apologized for t...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eJpnm1vwc_I/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Feb-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
ROFL THAT OPENING JOKE


[28-Feb-19 09:52 PM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[28-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ugh the CD Projekt Red tweet


[28-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Mikey#7286
what tweet?


[28-Feb-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb "did you just assume my gender" tweet


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Mikey#7286
oh _that_ tweet


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, from a dev making a fucking _cyberpunk_ game


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Mikey#7286
oh no


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Mikey#7286
what a horrible offensive tweet


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
the form of fiction that emphases _human body modification and sexuality_


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Perfect for your cheap trans joke


[28-Feb-19 09:55 PM] Mikey#7286
oh no he made a dumb joke


[28-Feb-19 09:56 PM] Mikey#7286
i'm more mad that they bended to kneejerk reactions and fired the guy than the harmless tweet he made


[28-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
social media was a mistake


[28-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How dare people get fired for a PR stunt that makes their employer look bad!


[28-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We must keep people on board forever no matter how shitty they are to fans!


[28-Feb-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now if you don't mind, I have to get back to writing TMNT comics for IDW and "editing"


[28-Feb-19 09:58 PM] Mikey#7286
"PR stunt"


[28-Feb-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tell me that it wasn't posted for meme points to appeal to a certain crowd


[28-Feb-19 09:58 PM] Mikey#7286
how about harmless joke that people took too seriously


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Mikey#7286
people get offended over dumb stuff


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As someone that's part of the industry


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whoever wrote that was being a complete dumbass


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People have kids to feed, rent to pay


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't need edgy shits threatening the company's image


[28-Feb-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There are assigned people set to deal with the public


[28-Feb-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't put random devs to deal with the public or speak for the company


[28-Feb-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone thinks they're hot shit and knows what they're doing


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are they're literally autistic or sheltered as fuck


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
"Do you not have phones!?" etc


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Mikey#7286
i doubt he was a random dev, he just had a dumb moment and slipped up


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Wouldn't that make them appeal to most of their users tho


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Mikey#7286
i highly doubt he meant ill will


[28-Feb-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed there's been no game where "autist" or some variant of "xfag" has been attempted to be put in


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was going for brownie points


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Part of the point behind public relations is to ensure your company or product has a broad range of appeal, especially in terms of entertainment like video games and movies; less so if you're selling something niche. So if you put someone in control of the PR who'll alienate a section of the consumer base that could potentially alienate them from the produce and reduce sales. And in today's target-based performance measures you can't really give an inch because a rival might take it to make a mile.


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Mikey#7286
i've seen people say they won't support GoG and CDPR for firing the guy now


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Mikey#7286
"bending to SJWs"


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lmao


[28-Feb-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were going to pirate the game anyway.


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
And posting, "Are you assuming my gender?" has pretty negative conotations in account that it's quoting people that don't really exist, said by people making fun of the people that fictional individual supposedly represents.


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I can assure you there were triple that that said they wouldn't because of the guy's tweet


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The most pandery to this group game I can think of is Kingdom Come: Deliverance


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and it is a 7.5/10 game with a lot of issues


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seriously, this is not a fight any company should get into


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, "did you just assume my gender" is a meme, it's been used multiple times in this very discord server, on top of on the site


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless they're Hatred or something


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
I guess I can see how it might be offensive


[28-Feb-19 10:03 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking why cuz it has no PoC?


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
.p did you just assume my gender?


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[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Kingdom Come that is


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because it failed to deliver and is an over all clunky game


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It sold to a lot of people as "no PoC" but was overall just clunky etc


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
i've seen people say it's bad because it has no blacks etc


[28-Feb-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not that it's "politically correct" enough, but it failed to give what it promised. For example: no large battles. But that mechanically over all it's not that great. I think you can cheese it easily.


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Show of hands for people that have played it


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
probably the same people who say Witcher 3 is racist cuz there's only white people despite being a game based in Polish folklore and mythology


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Getting it to run well is kinda a bitch


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not seeing any hands


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Mikey#7286
i have no interest in KC:D


[28-Feb-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I played it.


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's okay but again, clunky and hard to get running well. Also feels dated.


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Mikey#7286
i have tons of other games coming out anyway and more that I need to finish


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reeks of being difficult to get into for difficult to get into sake


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of how games try to ape Dark Souls


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Hollow Knight, Outer Worlds, Silksong, Doom Eternal etc


[28-Feb-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm fine with people ripping into companies for their bad PR


[28-Feb-19 10:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
>No PoC in Witcher 3

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[28-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But ripping into the product itself over it is a shit move by shit people


[28-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Mikey#7286
isn't that in a small section of the map


[28-Feb-19 10:07 PM] Mikey#7286
I haven't finished the game yet


[28-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hitler's art isn't bad because it's Hitler's, it's bad because it's generic motel room filler art


[28-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler got fukked by the credits system


[28-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Mikey#7286
didn't hitler basically copy other people's art anyway


[28-Feb-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Go to architectural school" they said, but he had something wrong with his credits that would have required more time


[28-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Mikey#7286
i heard he was basically a tracer


[28-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Mikey#7286
or something


[28-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[28-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was just bland and really bad at perspective


[28-Feb-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Mikey I'm already tracer


[28-Feb-19 10:10 PM] Mikey#7286
i'll be bastion


[28-Feb-19 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
nErF bAsTiOn


[28-Feb-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hitler's paintings are "OK". They're not the greatest, they're pretty boring


[28-Feb-19 10:13 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Feb-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
If anything they have a sketch quality to them. If he didn't reject modernity so much and was born maybe thirty years later he might stylistically fit in, or if he traveled to America. Sure he might end up being a comparatively minor figure in the art world known for his racism; but he'd fit with the modernist schools as opposed to the classically trained world I think he wanted to get into.

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[28-Feb-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Feb-19 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>socks and sandals


[28-Feb-19 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Should've read the warning signs


[28-Feb-19 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking early 20th century Bavarians


[28-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/432096-youtube-disables-comments-on-videos-featuring-minors

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YouTube disables comments on videos featuring minors
YouTube on Thursday announced that it will no longer allow people to comment on videos featuring young children after an advertiser boycott over concerns that the platform had enabled a "soft-core pedophile ring.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/youtube_092917getty.jpg


[28-Feb-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Overreaction much?


[28-Feb-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
they're doing it on a couple other channels completely unrelated as well


[28-Feb-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
because a person or two in some random comment section of one of their videos posted creepy pedo comments that the uploader didn't see


[28-Feb-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Children were a mistake


[28-Feb-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like you hate God >:V


[28-Feb-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
god was a mistake


[28-Feb-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Trump put Stone on speakerphone as Stone relayed that he had communicated with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that "within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign," Cohen said. Damaging emails U.S. officials say were hacked by Russia were later released by WikiLeaks.

Trump responded by saying "wouldn't that be great," Cohen said."


[28-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also stated that Trump "implicitly" told him to lie.


[28-Feb-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess it was a wink nudge thing


[28-Feb-19 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Its


[28-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What's the law on sonic attacks


[28-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can I walk up to someone's face and yell my lungs out


[28-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Gotta go fast"


[28-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
oh uh


[28-Feb-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
don't really know


[28-Feb-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
maybe at some point its disturbing the peace?


[28-Feb-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do you ask?


[28-Feb-19 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's going to play Dixie into someone's face really loud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzNV6I1_Hy4

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Union Dixie (Earrape)
Union Dixie but better.
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[28-Feb-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Itsthinking
:
Why do you ask?


[28-Feb-19 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
After looking at the site for more than 4 minutes straight I always have a strong desire to get a plane ticket to Fuckita, USA, find whatever user, and scream in their face to stop being such a fucking retard


[28-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
US assault law is really vague


[28-Feb-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can get arrested for farting at people or turning in their direction as you vomit uncontrollably


[28-Feb-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's designed this way to make peaceful protests harder to accomplish, basically.


[28-Feb-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You did anything other than hold up a sign and chant? You showed contempt in some form with your body? Hands out for handcuffs.


[28-Feb-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, I at this point suspect THQ Nordic did this on purpose as a marketing stunt


[28-Feb-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I barely knew they existed until people were reeeeeing like crazy about how using a platform to do an AMA means you are supporting something the platform banned as its only rule


[28-Feb-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If I was working as a PR person, this would be one of my schemes for when attention is tanking


[28-Feb-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just tell the schmukks hired to do the AMA which platform, don't tell them why, and sit bakk as the company name hits the headlines, and for being *stupid*, not being *malicious*


[28-Feb-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gamers don't care if your company is stupid, they'll buy its products as it shitposts on twitter


[28-Feb-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They only stop buying when they feel personally abused by the company practices, and even then it's hard.


[01-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Cohen: "Trump said his campaign was for furthering his wealth and himself, etc"


[01-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
you know


[01-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
if that's true


[01-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
i would not be surprised


[01-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Mikey#7286
lol that republican congressman struggling to speak, and shit


[01-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Mikey#7286
almost as if he's the one being dishonest and idiotic


[01-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
the one GOP questioner literally said he'd never heard of cohen until today


[01-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[01-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
What????


[01-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Why are you questioning him then?


[01-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make him look bad


[01-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Mikey#7286
the GOP is a fucking joke


[01-Mar-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We brought in this black lady that Cohen hired for trump staff, to prove that trump isnt racist despite he wasnt the one who hired her!"


[01-Mar-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump isnt racist guys, he has a black friend!"


[01-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not homophobic, i have a gay friend!


[01-Mar-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sexist! my mom says i;m not!


[01-Mar-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
hippity hoppity women are property


[01-Mar-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
</meme>


[01-Mar-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if his parents were still around i;m sure he'd have brought thme into this too, though considering he's  72 his parents would have to be vampires


[01-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[01-Mar-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Found it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438412674326331432/549343670101475348/unknown.png

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[01-Mar-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow all of the 2016 candidates were in their 70's


[01-Mar-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Old farts


[01-Mar-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how was bernie sanders too old again?


[01-Mar-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Being too old doesn't disqualify you


[01-Mar-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
But you probably won't win; people like younger candidates


[01-Mar-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i agree there kind of


[01-Mar-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish ocasio was old enough to run but at this point we probably arent ready for her anyway


[01-Mar-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246099095977066506/550833863258275840/1551386303633.jpg

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[01-Mar-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gy-LZ4UN0

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CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gy-LZ4UN0
Elijah Cummings' stunning closing remarks at Cohen hearing
Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) concluded the House Oversight Committee's questioning of President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen by deliver...
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[01-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html

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By MAGGIE HABERMAN, MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, ADAM GOLDMAN and ANNIE KARNI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html
Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance
The president overruled concerns from intelligence officials and the top White House lawyer about giving his son-in-law access to sensitive information.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/01/us/politics/01dc-clearances1/01dc-clearances1-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[01-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
"President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said."


[01-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theroot.com/police-open-fire-on-sleeping-black-man-in-locked-car-1832611785

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Police Open Fire on Sleeping Black Man in Locked Car
Relatives of 20-year-old Willie McCoy, also known as rapper Willie Bo, are demanding answers after six Vallejo police officers shot and killed McCoy while he slept in his car in a Taco Bell parking lot.
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[01-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
why didn't this make national news


[01-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like it just kind of faded away


[01-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
as far as I can tell, there's been no follow-up


[01-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
TV news is white


[01-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sleeping While Black


[01-Mar-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/bhevmsS

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This congressional staffer caught eating pizza live on national TV.
https://i.imgur.com/bhevmsS.jpg


[01-Mar-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
is this supposed to be scandalous


[01-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't have a license to eat that pizza


[01-Mar-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is this the alleged pizzagate ring finally coming to light


[01-Mar-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/bvexNgj.jpg

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Things don't change
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[01-Mar-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's come full circle


[01-Mar-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
seems like a cycle with capitalism


[01-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
you have the beginning of the cycle of capitalism putting the squeeze on everyone for basically no gains, the backlash and regulation of capitalism, the growth of social programs funded by taxing of capitalism, capitalism growing big enough to get itself deregulated, then the cycle repeats again


[01-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
we're just about to enter the backlash and regulation phase again


[01-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
and this is only the second cycle


[01-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
if it starts again, I don't think governments will be able to stop it a third time


[01-Mar-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
during the next regulation phase we need to set up some serious fail safes to prevent this again


[01-Mar-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we've done this twice now i;d rather not live to see the third time


[01-Mar-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the elite at this point seem insane enough to blow themselves and everyone else up to ensure they remain the elite, I can barely imagien the insane irrationality of a future elite


[01-Mar-19 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
J O I N   T H E   W O B B L I E S


[01-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
wobbling is a cancerous uncounterable move from super smash bros. melee


[01-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jhVJYites

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Wobbling: From Bad to Banned
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[01-Mar-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://asunaya.github.io/Sapplycompass/results.html


[01-Mar-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
what does the progressive/conservative bar mean on this quiz


[01-Mar-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
I guess how open someone is to changing how things currently are or something?


[01-Mar-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's not a very good quiz when it doesn't explain what exactly it means >:V


[01-Mar-19 06:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/military/870889-3m-ear-plugs-class-action-lawsuit-investigation-into-military-hearing-loss-tinnitus/

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Top Class Actions
https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/military/870889-3m-ear-plugs-class-action-lawsuit-investigation-into-military-hearing-loss-tinnitus/
3M Ear Plugs Class Action Lawsuit Investigation Into Military Hear...
If you suffered hearing loss or tinnitus after being issued 3M Combat Arms Earplugs during military service between 2002 and 2015, you may be owed compensastion!
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[01-Mar-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/F2snlQZ.png

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Doubt it will go through but one can hope
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[01-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/28/698703356/2020-democratic-presidential-hopefuls-support-marijuana-legalization-bill

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2020 Democratic Presidential Hopefuls Support Marijuana Legalizati...
Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., is reintroducing a bill on Thursday that would make marijuana legal at the federal level, the latest progressive legislation embraced by White House contenders.
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[01-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know


[01-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Mikey#7286
people say the 2020 democratic primary is becoming crowded but uh


[01-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Mikey#7286
the republican one had 13 candidates at the start


[01-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/x24pQjz.jpg

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British sarcasm at its finest
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[01-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Mikey#7286
the democrat has 10 major right now but I doubt half will make it to the primaries


[01-Mar-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
MAKE IT THIRTY CONTENDERS, 99% THE SAME


[01-Mar-19 08:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Weed out the weak and may the radical rise


[01-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
oh wow https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/alternet/

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AlterNet - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), pub...
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[01-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
I never looked up that grayzone project's bias


[01-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it used to be on alternet


[01-Mar-19 09:41 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Mar-19 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/arizona-republican-claims-vaccines-just-like-communism-bizarre-tirade/

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Arizona Republican claims vaccines are just like Communism in biza...
In a Facebook post, Arizona State Representative Kelly Townsend made the case that vaccines are somehow part of a Communist plot. “The most holy and sacred last frontier of sovereignty is our own body,” the Republican wrote. “Dearest friends and people of Arizona, it se...
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[01-Mar-19 04:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I see, everything is communism.


[01-Mar-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you protect your sacred sovreignity from disease and viruses then you are a dirty fucking communist you red pigged fuck nugget


[01-Mar-19 04:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Vaccination is like border control for diseases. Trump supporting anti vax types heads will implode.


[01-Mar-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if we give people vaccinations then how can trump peddle "Trumpication" the new trump brand medication for your soul!


[01-Mar-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
this is the same woman who had a fursona made of her on twitter


[01-Mar-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is her?


[01-Mar-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
furry sarah pailin?


[01-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme-court-rules-6-3-for-inmate-whose-lawyer-refused-to-file-appeal-notice-because-of-waiver

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SCOTUS rules 6-3 for inmate on ineffective assistance; dissent imp...
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[01-Mar-19 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e936caf89fd26b8c5a2818b74ded042f/tumblr_pnixf4mT6j1rqbl96o1_500.jpg

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[01-Mar-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/health/anthem-insurance-payments-patients-eprise/index.html

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Insurer skips doctors and sends massive checks to patients, prompt...
A woman received nearly $375,000 from Anthem for treatment at a rehab facility, according to a lawsuit. Another tells CNN that a family member got more than $240,000 from Anthem after surgery with an out-of-network doctor. One medical ethicist says insurers paying patients di...
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[01-Mar-19 07:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_rDIKn5aRY
Apparently twitter is attempting to enforce the laws of all nations on it's platform. So you could even violate Pakistan law and get in trouble.

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[01-Mar-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so does this mean people on twitter cant insult the king of thailand?


[01-Mar-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/feb/28/girl-11-gives-birth-to-rapists-child-after-argentina-refuses-abortion

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Girl, 11, gives birth to child of rapist after Argentina says no t...
Campaigners condemn authorities who ignored girl’s plea ‘to remove what the old man put inside me’
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[01-Mar-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/twitter-lindsey-graham-check-cohen/

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Lindsey Graham says Trump's payments are legal because he used a check
'I've found most people don't write checks if they think they're involved in a crime.'
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[01-Mar-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a fucking stupid arguement


[01-Mar-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Graham is a stupid guy.


[01-Mar-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Who the hell cares about twitter


[01-Mar-19 10:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.brasilwire.com/meet-brazils-new-president-jose-de-abreu/?fbclid=IwAR2ay_naX4WglSfBfV0W0boO_-wYAKB88o71ZA8IymXwg-RY-gnQ607wdQk

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Meet Brazil’s new President: José de Abreu
Taking lead from right wing Venezuelan opposition leader Brazilian actor declares himself President – challenges Juan Guaidó to debate By Brian Mier On February 25, veteran Brazilian character actor José de Abreu announced on Twitter that he was thinking of taking Juan Gu...
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[01-Mar-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


[01-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
twitter is being protected as if it were a news network, byte


[01-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of Trump using it


[01-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having this standard of the president can violate Twitter's rules because he's a public figure


[01-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you personally can't break Pakistan's law in the US because of Twitter's rules because you're a normie


[01-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
is the ultimate in inequal protection


[01-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Alito did not join a section of Thomas’ opinion that implied Gideon v. Wainright (1963) had been wrongly decided. In the section, Thomas, joined by Gorsuch, said “the Sixth Amendment appears to have been understood at the time of ratification as a rejection of the English common-law rule that prohibited counsel, not as a guarantee of government-funded counsel.”'


[01-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Gorsuch and Thomas.


[01-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to hurt the poor by not giving them attorneys


[01-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas also was in a dissent where he thought police could tailgate you, wait until you go inside, peek under tarps and arrest you all without a warrant.


[01-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Public defenders are the most important part of a sane legal system.


[01-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You missed an important part Nebbie


[01-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only does he think the government shouldn't provide lawyers


[01-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He thinks that if you're represented by a completely incompetent one it isn't unjust


[01-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I noticed


[01-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying that if the gov't fukks up helping you


[01-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
tuff shit


[01-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To him all this means is "The court isn't going to prevent you from bringing in any attorney"


[01-Mar-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
He literally believes


[01-Mar-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
right to a fair trial means that the court simply has to set some rules and the rules can't be crazy


[01-Mar-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
that anything past that, if the court messes up, if the provided attorney messes up


[01-Mar-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
that oh well, show must go on, fukk the poor


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All he thinks is it is is that the court can't say "no lawyer allowed"


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what I mean with "the rules can't be crazy"


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
He views it as


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
you set neutral rules


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then let things happen


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You do realize that Thomas is going to resign soon and that's why he's saying this crazy shit


[01-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't see any problem if the court breaks those rules or some other circumstances go on


[01-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hoping whatever 40 year old judge Trump gets next year will follow in his footsteps


[01-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ginsburg will probably die next year, Thomas will resign and Senate will force through one or both of the new appointment


[01-Mar-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/border-patrol-fed-pork-to-muslim-detainee-for-six-days_n_5c76f474e4b0d3a48b5627a2

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Border Patrol Fed Pork To Muslim Detainee For 6 Days
A permit allowing him to stay with his American wife and work legally wasn’t enough to keep Adnan Asif Parveen from landing in detention.
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[01-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah the classic "Muslims are vampires right" thing


[01-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ginsburg needs to make it until 2021


[01-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize that the Quran forgives you basically in situations like this right


[01-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but they gave him bread too


[01-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
so he had to eat that


[01-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They kept trying


[01-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were trying to get him to giv in and eat the pork too


[01-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know of people who legitimately think Islam should have no protection as a religion.


[01-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And want an amendment banning it.


[01-Mar-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I want all religion publicly ridiculed


[01-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you see what Graham said today @Nebbie


[01-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Briefly.


[01-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't generally listen to Republican shills, as a rule.


[01-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They never hav anything intelligent to say, even from the Senate


[01-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said the hush money payment was legal because it was paid for by check


[01-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Physical evidence of president implicated in a crime someone is going to jail for three years for; no one gives a shit


[01-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't part of Watergate that Nixon paid the burglars?


[01-Mar-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Mar-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
April 19th


[01-Mar-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Local snail obliterates lobster


[01-Mar-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuFo2NUC7rQ

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Products and Desire - The Pervert's Guide to Ideology
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[01-Mar-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theonion.com/kim-jong-un-panics-after-returning-to-north-korea-to-fi-1832966153

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Kim Jong-Un Panics After Returning To North Korea To Find Country...
PYONGYANG—Appearing alarmed upon his return from the nuclear summit in Hanoi, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un reportedly panicked Thursday as he walked through the abandoned streets of Pyongyang and realized his nation’s entire populace had managed to escape while he was ...
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[01-Mar-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/KnDVl793v8k

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[01-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, who's zizek


[01-Mar-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow a Slovenian philosopher and Lacanian. He's a leading figure on the left and I've even heard some centrists sorta discuss him. His meme is to sniff a lot and discuss ideology.

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[01-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
how do you think he'll debate happiness


[01-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
since happiness is subjective as fuck


[01-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
it's been shown through studies that the amount of "happiness" someone can get from money maxes out at about $900k a year (not sure if gross or net)


[01-Mar-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Such a small, small sci-tech brain. That's why debate exists. Dost thou seek wisdom?


[02-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Honahue#0656
my guess is he would look at the structure that we define happiness by, how it's an ideology that capitalism uses to make good works (not happy ones)


[02-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Honahue#0656
though Zizek has also said that anxiety is the only real emotion


[02-Mar-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
JP may say something about hierarchies and about how sliding into your place in it is happiness.


[02-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Honahue#0656
that's almost a Taoist view of things and according to the Taoist nature has a fit for you, you just have to find it. But our society doesn't care about what is a persons best fit it cares about what is the best way to extract their value


[02-Mar-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the classical sense from Plato, or Aristotle though happiness could be said to be derived from external factors, vs joy which is defined in a Wes Cecil lecture as being an internal state of contentment independent of the external factor that makes someone "happy".


[02-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Taoism is also over 2k years old so it predate capitalism by a bit


[02-Mar-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like you can be happy, but without joy; lying in a plush bed at night having ate the best food but be without joy and depressed.


[02-Mar-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
So by this, the conversation may take place around only the external material factors that effect people's positive well being in life. How resources and materials get distributed for comfort or a sense of contentment.


[02-Mar-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Zizek may take his position on ideology, supposing that all commodities are given an almost religious quality to artificially impress upon them a greater impact of over all happiness and make them false.


[02-Mar-19 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
but that's my issue, it's nice to say find your fit an you'll be happy but if your fit isn't profitable enought in this society it will try to force you into something more profitable to someone else so even if you love a job being crushed by rent or debt or bills is going to make actualization difficule


[02-Mar-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
And JP... may rant about lobsters I don't know. JP is rarely ever clear.


[02-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think JP cares about happiness, happy people are fulfilled people and it's hard to control those people


[02-Mar-19 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, here's one of Zizek's most famous clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k

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[02-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I was just stating that you don't get happier from making more than $900k a year, not that making $900k a year would make people the happiest


[02-Mar-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
and the rate of "happiness" people would get from making more money has different amounts of happiness per amount made for different people


[02-Mar-19 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
happiness is a social construct


[02-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
I've been truly happy in very few times of my life, and I've learned that happiness is a sham, if you're happy somethng will inevitably come along and ruin it that you can't forsee, predict, or control for


[02-Mar-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxPGgw47P24

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[02-Mar-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I don't mean fleeting stuff like joy either, I mean "happiness" as being content with my current status in the world


[02-Mar-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I get the feeling like 90% of that can be blamed on the fact that I've started looking at global news lol


[02-Mar-19 12:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well when I mostly think of the happiness-joy distinction I think of it in terms like in that lecture, since it's kind of the first time I've heard it defined. Joy is internal where as happiness is external. So if the news is making you unhappy, the best thing may be to unplug it. A big part of the news is to sell ratings like a drama, it just so happens a lot of it real drama; but like fictional drama is can hook in people and be used to sell products like the company as a brand or advertisers.


[02-Mar-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, news doesn't make me unhappy


[02-Mar-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
it just prevents me from being happy


[02-Mar-19 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not a lot of the news is particularly relevant to anyone on a day-to-day basis. In much the same way that it's also painted in its own ideology: see the Zizek video posted earlier. Non or anti-ideology is still an ideology. So it's less selling real events, but selling the ruling ideology.


[02-Mar-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then that would be unhappy. Sure you can't control what goes on, but you can control the responses to it. If something saps away at happiness or joy and can be avoided: avoid it.


[02-Mar-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, news makes me feel like I should be doing something to help make things better, but have no place to start at and no power to start with


[02-Mar-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
frustrating maybe, but I'm not unhappy because of it


[02-Mar-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not a particularly outwards-expressing person too, so I get the feeling that what I consider "happiness" is what most people would consider "joy"


[02-Mar-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because that's how the news in America runs. It's not your thing to get involved; it's someone else's. The politicians, the lobbyists, the lawyers, the generals. And what they tell you is predicated on that. Where as if you were to, say: get your news from labor sources the message would ultimately end up being, "We can effect change by working together on it."


[02-Mar-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is why I ham up the organizing bit.


[02-Mar-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you're frustrated at shit, organize. There's something out there, it may not be the easiest to find but it exists.


[02-Mar-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tenants unions, commuter unions. Activism abounds.


[02-Mar-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
I just consider joy to be a short-term burst of happiness due to some small thing happening that goes my way, like winning a game


[02-Mar-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
happiness is more long-term contentment to me


[02-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it's the reverse personally, Happiness is that giddy feeling when things are going your way, joy isn't as intense but as a consequence can be maintained longer without burning out and also doesn't cause quite the same crash when you come down


[02-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
idk, apparently joy's definition is "intense happiness" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joy#Noun

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[02-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
>A feeling of extreme happiness or cheerfulness, especially related to the acquisition or expectation of something good.


[02-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, apparently "happiness" used to mean "prosperity, thriving, wellbeing"


[02-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's considered archaic now


[02-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/happiness#Noun

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[02-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
the Greeks weren't seeking joy with their philosophy they were seeking Eudaimonia which is more like flourishing, they knew life sucks but you can be the best version of yourself still


[02-Mar-19 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
eudaimonia got translated as happiness a lot though


[02-Mar-19 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
But probably wasn 't happiness in a 1:1 sense because the Greeks.


[02-Mar-19 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
Aristotle and the Stoics had slightly different ideas on how to achieve it


[02-Mar-19 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m_7G31yh4

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[02-Mar-19 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's a combination of 2 words eu meaning good and daimon meaing spirit


[02-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
which some definitions of achieving eudaimonia coincide with Siddartha's definition of joy


[02-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
though the way of achieving was different between Greeks and Buddhists


[02-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLE2prjQ-F0

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[02-Mar-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, what was that song you linked which was an adaptation of another song to being a worker's rights thing?


[02-Mar-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
I can't find it in my history for some reason


[02-Mar-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
also, the only sites reporting that UPS thing are far right biased news sites and conspiracy theory websites


[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jso1YRQnpCI

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[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is the Union re-write: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo

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Solidarity Forever (Pete Seeger)
This is a worker's anthem by Pete Seeger. Thank you for watching comrades!
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[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
they're all citing that "kvallposten" site, which is a tabloid like dailymail and the register


[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, solidarity forever


[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
thanks


[02-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm6obfnJ4XM

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[02-Mar-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47418956

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Warmbier family rebuke Trump praise of Kim
A dead US student's parents break their silence after Mr Trump heaped compliments on "smart" Mr Kim.
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[02-Mar-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-military-cancel-exercise-south-korean-20190301-story.html

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U.S. military to permanently cancel large-scale exercises on Korea...
Large-scale American military exercises with South Korea in March will be replaced by smaller, mission-specific trainings. The move comes days after the Trump-Kim summit collapsed.
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[02-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
so is the reason why the US is going to shit is because wages didn't keep up with inflation, because they didn't keep up with productivity, or because all of the jobs which made enough money to survive moved overseas?


[02-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
because I don't see why someone flipping burgers shouldn't also at least be able to have someplace to live and food to eat


[02-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MsPr5guMXk

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[02-Mar-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
this tune gets used a lot


[02-Mar-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it was due to reaganomics,  and the constipation system. it was basically the idea that the employee does his part for the employer and the employer woudl drop a load on the employees face. the problem is companies dont actually want to pay people for their service so thye keep it at the lowest level legally required which does not at all match current dollar inflation


[02-Mar-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
[The eternal critiques of Marx and Bakunin echoes through space and time as absolute truth]


[02-Mar-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what doesnt help is companies like walmart and amazon, ontop of mcdonalds basically cutting any current raises and closing up shops whenever a new legal minimum gets passed


[02-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
in a perfect world, local people would fill the gap left by walmart/amazon/mcdonald's/etc


[02-Mar-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart would have likely abandoned america a long time ago except that other countries actively fight their asses to keep thme out


[02-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
business is beholden to the shareholders, they want to have their shares increase in price infinitely, but no industry can have infinite growth because you'd hit total market saturation when everyone has whatever product.


[02-Mar-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is when thye set up shop int he local areas they drove everyone out of business and then moved out of the tax zone


[02-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
I think that's why restaurants/fast food/etc are able to keep existing


[02-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
that model works with finite resources that need to be constantly replenished


[02-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
they are sorta, being privately owned as a small business helps because they only need to make enough to cover themselves


[02-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
they don't have to make shareholders happy


[02-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
but they still exploit the US min wage laws


[02-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
coop restaruants


[02-Mar-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
And also because if they left an area with a raised minimum they'd be abandoning a market. Unlike old time manufacturing you can't continue to sell into a market while building outside of it. So McDonalds has to bite the bullet whenever a wage gets raised since they have to work within the market they sell into.


[02-Mar-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
WalMart can't outsource over sees for instance, because that means abandoning a market to outsource. If all their stores were to close, they can't sell; except online.


[02-Mar-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which may be the only field these companies can move to. Amazon, McDonalds and WalMart can't leave, but they can replace people. A store front becomes an online market and a robot mans the cashier.


[02-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
it's the reason Truck drivers are some of the best paid laborers in the US, you can't outsouce their job


[02-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
course people are trying to automate it


[02-Mar-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what can;t be outsourced get's automated


[02-Mar-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
What the power-play is here is not that capitalism but necessarily hire people, because capitalism has to hire as few as it can get away with to keep over head low.


[02-Mar-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are tons of bogus job lsitings onlien right now for walmart and such because they jsut have to give the illusion of hiring people


[02-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
truck automation is still a long way off, besides the technical issues that most self driving systems only work on good roads in good weather there's some ethical and legal issues that will take a while to sort though


[02-Mar-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Catch-22 may be when you fire everyone to replace them with machines, no one is working to buy your products. So the market collapses. This is the underlying idea behind UBI I think; a way to salvage capitalist and save it from its own contradictions to maintain it indefinitely as opposed to admitting it's reached such a stage of development we can kill it now.


[02-Mar-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
UBI?


[02-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
universal basic income


[02-Mar-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[02-Mar-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically what soem countries do already


[02-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's welfare, but with the idea that it props up capitalism


[02-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
instead of being meant to actually help people


[02-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
no country has done it outside of a few pilot programs


[02-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
FInland did it for a bit with like 2000 people and I think Canada tried too for a while


[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/2/9/18217566/finland-basic-income

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Finland gave people free money. It didn’t help them get jobs —...
Receiving a basic income had other great effects on the unemployed.
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[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
finland did a 2 year study on it that just ended


[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
apparently someone had the bright idea that paying people would help them get jobs


[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't, but it makes them a lot happier


[02-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
and even lets people take risks by trying to open new businesses


[02-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
not all of the results of the study are ready to be released though


[02-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
it says the results will be released by the end of the year


[02-Mar-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
also it doesn't say what the job market in Finland is like, if there aren't jobs avalible that those 2000 people have the skill to do then they're just outa luck


[02-Mar-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
"The Finnish trial, the results of which were released Friday, wasn’t an experiment in universal basic income (UBI), which includes all citizens whether they’ve got jobs or not. Rather, it was a targeted attempt to see what would happen if the government chose 2,000 unemployed citizens at random and gave them a check of 560 euros ($635) every month for two years."


[02-Mar-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
UBI would apply to everyone, from the poorest poor to the biggest billionaire


[02-Mar-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
but this study only applied to unemployed citizens


[02-Mar-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
and I feel that a combination of both direct monetary aid for people below a certain income (up to a bottom limit for people unemployed) with no taxes owed with a gradual decrease of aid until it reaches a certain income at which people will start owing taxes is the best solution available within capitalism


[02-Mar-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
then with a mostly linear rate up to $900k a year, after which it increases exponentially


[02-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://kutv.com/news/offbeat/entire-staffs-at-3-sonic-locations-quit-after-wages-cut-to-4hour-plus-tips

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[02-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
christ


[02-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, what if walmart and the like start trying to do this


[02-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a bigger issue though, UBI is a stop gap for billionaires to not have to change their lifestyles and we;re headed for ecological disaster unless we change people's consumption habits, and get those capitalist to change their business to ones that don't pollute


[02-Mar-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it were up to most corporations every job woudl work on the basic reseraunt waiter model of america


[02-Mar-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
$2-$4 an hour with msot of their wage being tips


[02-Mar-19 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it goes even futher, capitalist wish shit was like feudalism where the peasants pay them for the privilege of living on their land


[02-Mar-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if only their houses were as burnable as back then


[02-Mar-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not eat at Sonic, jfc


[02-Mar-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The company should be put out of business for this.


[02-Mar-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a sonic in my town, i wonder if it also tried this bullshit


[02-Mar-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
I saw a new one that went up across the street about a mile away from my college, and it looks like a gas station which people can pull up to and order their food from


[02-Mar-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
about a year to 2 years ago


[02-Mar-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is essentially sonic in a nut shell


[02-Mar-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve enver eaten there before


[02-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i enjoy dairy queen though, i hope they arent up to shady shit liek that


[02-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-sonic-employees-quit-near-columbus-leave-scathing-notes-over-paychecks/

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Entire staffs quit at Sonic drive-ins in Ohio over pay-cut talk
"Due to terrible management the whole store has quit," reads goodbye note taped to door of restaurant near Columbus
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[02-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
"If an employee's total wages in a pay period including tips falls below the total Ohio minimum wage of $8.55 an hour, the employer must make up the difference," emailed a spokesperson for the Ohio Department of Commerce.


[02-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
they might be trying to spearhead an attempt at getting all wages moved to tipping


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
in order to minimize as much cost as possible because why pay when your customer can pay extra?


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"department of commerce"


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
in my state, do you know what the department of commerce actually does?


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: not enforcing the law in favor of employees


[02-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint 2: Republicans are the party of commerce


[02-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way the state gov't can shill for the party directly


[02-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
while pretending to be neutral


[02-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav 0 intention of making Sonic make up the difference


[02-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they did, then it would just be Sonic making sure that customers pay some of the minimum wage


[02-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they definitely hav 0 intention of making Sonic make up the difference.


[02-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want no minimum wage.


[02-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a way that companies could do it.


[02-Mar-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or using Siri to power the drive-thru speaker


[02-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
why use a speaker?


[02-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
use a touchpad


[02-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
cheaper and easier to set up


[02-Mar-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh yeah imagine if someone came up with a restaurant with no on-site services *at all.* It's just a burger factory with an app and a partnership with uber eats


[02-Mar-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't have to pay your employees if you have no employees. Just the guy who has to mop under the burgermatic 6000


[02-Mar-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie, it's not sonic the franchise


[02-Mar-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the new restaurant owner/franchisee


[02-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, you mean the roomba?


[02-Mar-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ah, suppose you're right. But still, at the heart of all that automation has got to be the one guy whose one and only job is to maintain the equipment because you know the guy who owns BURGE isn't gonna roll up to clean up a fry oil leak when the fry oil sensor pings his phone


[02-Mar-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then that guy isn't even the one to fix it, no. He just has to call in the regional handyman who is responsible for maintaining 400 stores


[02-Mar-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that guy's a contracted employee, too. The only real employees on the payroll are the general managers


[02-Mar-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://fortune.com/2019/03/01/trump-michael-cohen-testimony-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-aoc/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Questions for Michael Cohen Got Real An...
Unconstrained by obligations to donors, AOC can focus on constituent demands, such as attending and preparing for committee meetings and hearings.
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/gettyimages-1127817652-e1551481480759.jpg?w=1024


[02-Mar-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, she's smart, despite the character assassination her detractors are attempting


[02-Mar-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
they go after little tiny nitpicks instead of anything major


[02-Mar-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also attends all the little mundane meetings isntead of cowtowing to donators and campaigning while in office


[02-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I hope she becomes the norm


[02-Mar-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[02-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, btw, following up on that "don't call her AOC" thing, her twitter handle is @AOC


[02-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd like to see a day where AOC is right of center


[02-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/550553535364726784


[02-Mar-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
considering that we've had presidents to the left of both cortez and bernie in the past, she'd most likely be moderate left


[02-Mar-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
if the center was actually at the center


[02-Mar-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're so far right she seems extreme  compared to most of the right leaning democrats


[02-Mar-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope things start shifting to the left again


[02-Mar-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like a proper shift, not just "Weelected a bunch of right leanign democrats and that makes us left"


[02-Mar-19 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't call people by their twitter handle


[02-Mar-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
I just call her cortez


[02-Mar-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
just like I call most politicians (except bernie) by their last name


[02-Mar-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
I don't call bernie sanders because there's sarah huckabee sanders as well


[02-Mar-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
I get sarah jessica parker and sarah huckabee sanders mixed up a lot too lol


[02-Mar-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
I'm kinda bad at remembering names, but I never forget faces


[02-Mar-19 08:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Horse face vs retard face


[02-Mar-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/432299-dem-lawmaker-to-introduce-bill-blaming-kim-jong-un-for-otto-warmbier-death

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Dem lawmaker to introduce bill blaming Kim Jong Un for Otto Warmbi...
Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.) announced Friday he intends to introduce a bill officially blaming North Korean leader Kim Jong Un for the death of U.S. student Otto Warmbier.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/warmbierotto06192017wiki.jpg


[02-Mar-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
oh man


[02-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
the democrats are going nuts with this


[02-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
“I’ll be introducing a bipartisan resolution next week affirming that Congress holds Kim Jong Un responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier,” Malinowski tweeted.


[02-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how these people are a complete parody of themselves and don't even realize it, https://www.breitbart.com/health/2019/03/01/13-scary-things-in-democrats-medicare-for-all/

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13 Scary Things in Democrats' 'Medicare for All' | Breitbart
Over 100 Democrats introduced their "Medicare for All" plan on Feb. 27. It takes away private health insurance, and that's just the beginning.
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/03/Zombie-nurse-Flickr.jpg


[02-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why need The Onion when you can just read Fox or Breitbart?


[02-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/dIuy3lO

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Same planet, different world
https://i.imgur.com/T8nIaLHh.jpg


[02-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
this is the most depressing thing you'll ever see


[02-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that there's basically no way to help on an individual level


[02-Mar-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtQf2phA0Wh/

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@ugurgallen on Instagram: “#ParalelEvrenSavaşBarış 📷 . . ....
21.5k Likes, 314 Comments - @ugurgallen on Instagram: “#ParalelEvrenSavaşBarış 📷 . . . #usarmy #abughraib #ıraq #ırak #ebugureyb #torture…”
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[02-Mar-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
isn't this one from gitmo?


[02-Mar-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[02-Mar-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
An Iraq blakksite


[02-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gauntanamo has better conditions


[02-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Iraq thing was a huge travesty


[02-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-campaign-may-have-illegally-paid-her-boyfriend-complaint/

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign may have illegally paid her ...
Freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign may have illegally paid her boyfriend through a political action committee during her congressional race, a Republican group alleges in a new compl…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/190228-riley-roberts-campaign.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[02-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like the phrase "[Politician we're shaming's] office did not immediately respond." is just used to attack politicians


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Emphasis on the /may/


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Big maybe


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
She is basically an active target in burgerland


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
the claim is that it's because they paid him through an intermediary


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Every media edgelord is calling her stupid or wrong in some way


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
she's incredibly dangerous to the status quo, especially in her current position


[02-Mar-19 12:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
Honestly the media fallout on her legitimises her to me


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
Hope the US gets a solid president when she's old enough


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
It'd be about fucking time


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
and she's smart and not immediately discreditable without looking like a massive idiot at best and a sexist bigot at worst


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
Even Bernie is spineless in comparison


[02-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
she's young and outspoken


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
and is actually holding to her principles


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
But yeah, the smear to anyone with a brain makes her seem better


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
because she's not responding to it


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like I didn't think she was all that great til the media smear was everywhere


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
and she shuts down the really big ones with a snarky one-liner on twitter


[02-Mar-19 12:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
But clearly she is pretty cool if she shits off the establishment so much


[02-Mar-19 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
That's the irony of the right


[02-Mar-19 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
They are the establishment


[02-Mar-19 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
But they pretend their shit is anti establishment


[02-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
she's not a person the right can deal with using their normal methods


[02-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
she's so squeaky clean that the only thing they got on her from her time in school is her having fun dancing


[02-Mar-19 12:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's hilarious watching the media squirm


[02-Mar-19 12:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
She's the best thing to happen to US politics in ages, since COINTELPRO largely reduced the 'left' to largely liberal feminists that don't understand or misinterpret intersectionality.


[02-Mar-19 12:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like fuck the Black Panther Party was cool


[02-Mar-19 12:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
And I'm sure there used to be many other cool, powerful coherently organised movements


[02-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
there was another democrat congresswoman made fun of recently for claiming she smoked weed and listened to tupac and snoop dogg in high school


[02-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
but it was 10 years before tupac released his first album and like 13 years before snoop dogg became a rapper


[02-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
like if that's the fucking best you can get, you might as well not have tried to begin with


[02-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/neo-nazi-groups-leader-black-man-vows-dissolve-61424125

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Neo-Nazi group's leader is black man who vows to dissolve it
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_4d1ce8453dfb4a6b8859c33a04aff8cf_16x9_992.jpg


[02-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
wat https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/politics/sean-hannity-michael-cohen-congress/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/politics/sean-hannity-michael-cohen-congress/index.html
Top House Democrat: Hannity should testify under oath about hush-m...
A member of House Democratic leadership says it may be time to hear from Fox News host Sean Hannity -- under oath.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180416151938-sean-hannity-michael-cohen-split-super-tease.jpg


[02-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
>The comment prompted Cicilline -- a member of the influential House Judiciary Committee -- to tweet Thursday: "Sean Hannity is now volunteering himself as a witness. I look forward to his testimony."


[02-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47426138

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US attacks chlorinated chicken 'myth'
US Ambassador Woody Johnson criticises warnings about chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-fed beef.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/12762/production/_105381657_beef.jpg


[02-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
sean hannity could be wrecked so hard if he gets subpoenaed


[02-Mar-19 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-national-emergency-pentagon-20190228-story.html

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Acting Pentagon chief to certify emergency to help build wall — ...
Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan is set to certify Trump's national emergency, backing the president he needs to nominate him to lead the Pentagon, but risking the support of lawmakers he'd need to confirm him — some of whom have been critical of the executive powe...
https://www.latimes.com/resizer/vcFY2BgpcD8zFRPlT_mFH3G_vyw=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/6XPXD5BBGVGW5DU3BIYU2HRDPE.jpg


[02-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/465/515/d64.jpg

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/465/515/d64.jpg


[02-Mar-19 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-congress/u-s-house-approves-expanded-background-checks-for-gun-sales-idUSKCN1QG2VD

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U.S. House approves expanded background checks for gun sales
The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday passed a bill that would expand b...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190228&t=2&i=1361186636&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF1Q1T9

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[02-Mar-19 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/1/18246297/china-transportation-people-banned-poor-social-credit-planes-trains-2018

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China banned millions of people with poor social credit from trans...
These people had become "discredited" for unspecified behavioral crimes
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[02-Mar-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
China banned people from buying plane or train tickets 23 million times last year because their social credit scores were too low, according to the Associated Press, which obtained a copy of a government report.

The government rolled out the travel ban on people with low social credit scores last May. According to a report from China’s National Public Credit Information Center from last week, people have been blocked 17.5 million times from purchasing airplane tickets, and 5.5 million times from buying high-speed train tickets. These people had become “discredited” for unspecified behavioral crimes. That’s up from only 6.15 million citizens being blocked from taking flights as of 2017, according to China’s supreme court.


[02-Mar-19 03:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Ever watched CSA


[02-Mar-19 03:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1101567627082772481?s=21 get your wall here

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[02-Mar-19 06:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Kamala Harris was the one that was wrong about smoking weed and listening to Tupac and Snoop but she has other problems such as she's a cop


[02-Mar-19 07:08 PM] Honahue#0656
https://youtu.be/MkLC3XyqrEY

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Mexie
https://youtu.be/MkLC3XyqrEY
Venezuela: How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Trust the Neocons
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[02-Mar-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-woman-bitten-by-stray-kitten-billed-by-hospital-for-48g-my-funeral-would-have-been-cheaper

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Florida woman bitten by stray kitten billed by hospital for $48G: ...
A wildlife biologist in Florida was slammed with a nearly $50,000 medical bill after she was bitten by a stray kitten.
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[02-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2019-03-02/trump-says-opponents-using-bullshit-to-try-to-push-him-out


[02-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just fire him already then


[02-Mar-19 08:48 PM] Mikey#7286
He won't


[02-Mar-19 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw CNN makes a post commemorating the Bush family


[02-Mar-19 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Out of cheekiness, I reply to it declaring myself the president of the US; saying the country is lacking democracy with political dynasties and as self-proclaimed president I declare war on the US to bring democracy.


[02-Mar-19 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Boomers everywhere rush in in mad, saying the US "ISN'T A DEMOCRACY IT'S A REPUBLIC. REEEEE"


[02-Mar-19 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
So much for awareness of America's stated goals in its imperialism.


[02-Mar-19 10:00 PM] Jimmyjamno1#7284
Did anyone talk about the possible nuclear war between pakistan and india that was going to happen yesterday? If it did happen then 10's of millions of people would've died and the fallout would've caused nuclear famine.


[02-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Jimmyjamno1#7284
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/asia/india-pakistan-military-balance-intl/index.html

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Crisis may be easing, but nuclear threat still hangs over India an...
Tensions on the border between India and Pakistan last week pushed the two nuclear-powered South Asian adversaries closer to conflict than at any point in the past two decades.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190228155708-20190228-pakistan-india-border-illo-super-tease.jpg


[02-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been brought up, yes


[02-Mar-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[02-Mar-19 10:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact: I got a friend in the army nuclear program and they just did updated simulations on a full-out nuclear war.


[02-Mar-19 10:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Apart from mass deaths it'd be more of a mild annoyance. Just gotta house down the lawn and the house.


[02-Mar-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
seeing site users on youtube be like

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[02-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Michael Rosen ruined the best YTPs with takedowns


[02-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Said for years he was fine with them but suddenly nope


[02-Mar-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
the cs188 poop ytp probably creeped him out


[02-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Honahue#0656
Oh good Hank of the Hill is still up


[02-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] this one? https://youtu.be/pr09o40a9p8

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https://youtu.be/pr09o40a9p8
[YTP] Michael's Bathroom Fiasco
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pr09o40a9p8/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was originally a 4chan greentext I think


[02-Mar-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Are we posting BreadTube shitposts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo
YTP Dennis Prager rallies the troops for the War on Christmas
UPDATE I AM A COMMUNIST ALT RIGHT BRAINLETS FUCK OFF spiroslavia: https://discord.gg/AcJfxNs unofficial /leftypol/ discord: https://discord.gg/UGjqTsU
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IOORXvZE2lo/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"So please, say the n-word"- Dennis Prager


[02-Mar-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Comrade Prager


[02-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[02-Mar-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Penis Prager


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking oh nooo


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
The moment I dread


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
When Dad goes from being cheery


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
To being fucking furious


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Look out the window


[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Penis Prager you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiQc7N8yl10

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Itachi Uchiha
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Chapo Trap House - Prager U and Dennis Prager
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[02-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
There's a window


[02-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/HjuNJA4RO-k

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https://youtu.be/HjuNJA4RO-k
[YTP] The Fifteen Year Old Banana (1K SUB SPESHUL)
"A chunk a' poop in the mouth" is probably my favorite thing I've ever sentence spliced.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HjuNJA4RO-k/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone actually ever been in a situation where a conservative voice was silenced


[02-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Teachers always gave them plenty of time to talk whenever they were in my classes


[02-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They tended to get "I got flustered because people didn't immediately agree with me" with "my voice was silenced"


[02-Mar-19 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
10 Reasons to not play Minecraft


[02-Mar-19 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Mar-19 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Mar-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my classmates discuss conservative politics allt he time and my teacher joins right in


[02-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
you're going into a blue collar career path, for some reason the workers in the US are all anti-socialist even though socialism is specifically tailored for them


[02-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
cooperatives give workers the greatest power out of any business model


[02-Mar-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's really weird


[02-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump just made fun of Southern accents lol


[03-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao and executive order to enforce conservative safe spaces


[03-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, do you know why blue collar workers seem to be a stronghold for anti-socialist thoughts in the US even though they're the ones who gain the most benefit from socialism?


[03-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
like when I was working at the metal-bending place, it was almost nothing but anti-democrat talk


[03-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
during the breaks


[03-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
and there was one guy who was big into the popular conservative conspiracy theories like pizzagate


[03-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
though people just smiled and nodded at the more absurd ones


[03-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
and only agreeing on the anti-democratic party stuff


[03-Mar-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow fifty years of anti-communists rhetoric since the conclusion of the Second World War and the neutering of radical unions clipped any major worker's rights programs such as the four hour day, and in its place an over saturation in the liberal individualism meme.


[03-Mar-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thus creating a culture of the mildly annoyed millionaire to be.


[03-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
temporarily inconvenienced millionaire who was never actually a millionaire to begin with lol


[03-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
also, all of the people there were boomers except for one gen X'er who apparently knocked up his girlfriend right when she turned 18 and has had 2 more kids since (she's apparently my age, and so that means he was probably a college student while she was in high school, he mentioned that if he won the lottery that he'd go back to college)


[03-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
they live in a 2-bedroom apartment which costs nearly $3000 a month just for rent


[03-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
but all of the work that was being done there was being done on machines from the 1930's and 1940's which don't look like they could be easily automated


[03-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
so I get the feeling that the owner got them at bargin bin prices because they were basically junk by the 90's


[03-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
and most of them requires you to be standing in order to operate


[03-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
so they weren't fun to use


[03-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
at the very least, the owners were working as well


[03-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/us/stephon-clark-police-shooting-sacramento.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/us/stephon-clark-police-shooting-sacramento.html
No Charges in Sacramento Police Shooting of Stephon Clark
Mr. Clark was killed in his grandmother’s backyard by officers responding to a vandalism complaint. For nearly a year, activists have demanded police accountability.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/03/us/03sacramento-print/merlin_136405221_94291c3b-afe3-4696-829e-b12c699e0f72-facebookJumbo.jpg


[03-Mar-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
genuinely *what*


[03-Mar-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Mar-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
angery reacts only


[03-Mar-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm far too confused right now to be angry


[03-Mar-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I'd known about this case since it happened, and I still don't know how the police had a leg to stand on here, even *if* there's some kind of rampant blue code of silence


[03-Mar-19 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I expected there to be some lessening/dropped charges in light of that, but zero charges?


[03-Mar-19 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the confusing thing is that this all happened while they were trying to save face


[03-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's a woman, Wingbeat


[03-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get massively preferential treatment by law enforcement, the DA, judges, and juries.


[03-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being a woman reduces your sentence on average by like 5 years.


[03-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, there's extreme inertia in the courts and all


[03-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's taking a loooong time for them to become less sexist


[03-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, apparently she claimed mental illness, but was only given probation instead of sent to a mental institute


[03-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvc4n7sfM0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvc4n7sfM0
Day care provider who hanged toddler sentenced to probation
Nataliia Karia received 10 years probation on Monday for hanging a toddler in her daycare and running over two men with her minivan. https://kare11.tv/2KYbi8c
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QNvc4n7sfM0/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Mar-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
also she's russian or something


[03-Mar-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well I was talking about the stephon clark thing, not the daycare lady


[03-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-colleges/trump-vows-executive-order-requiring-free-speech-at-colleges-idUSKCN1QJ0JD

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Trump vows executive order requiring 'free speech' at colleges
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday he would soon sign an executive ord...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190302&t=2&i=1362161489&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF210DW


[03-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a power the President has.


[03-Mar-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally 'Trump on Saturday suggested that Williams sue the man who punched him and also “sue the college, the university. And maybe sue the state.” He suggested that Williams was going to be “a very wealthy young man.”'


[03-Mar-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what did williams do?


[03-Mar-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Got punched while talking at a University, apparently


[03-Mar-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Trump's saying that the entire University and State should be punished for having people who punch...I'm going to take a wild guess here and say "fascists"


[03-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently he had posters saying "Hate crime hoaxes hurt real victims" and "this is MAGA country"


[03-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[03-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was mad about the Empire actor


[03-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but was also saying that this is white country


[03-Mar-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he had left it at the first phrase he would have sounded less dumb


[03-Mar-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
"The U.S. Justice Department filed a statement of interest in 2018 in a free speech lawsuit filed against the University of California, Berkeley, accusing the school of discriminating against speakers with conservative views. In a settlement announced in December, the university will modify its procedures for handling “major events,” which typically draw hundreds of people, and agreed not to charge “security” fees for a variety of activities, including lectures and speeches. It will also pay $70,000 to cover legal costs of the Berkeley College Republicans and the Tennessee-based Young America’s Foundation."


[03-Mar-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was recruiting for Turning Pont USA


[03-Mar-19 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Turning Point USA is an American right wing, nonprofit organization. Since 2016, Turning Point USA has maintained a Professor Watchlist that lists college professors it alleges discriminate against conservative students and advance left-wing propaganda in the classroom.


[03-Mar-19 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds dumb as shit


[03-Mar-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
"left-wing propaganda" meaning the truth about the drug war, that women are equal, and that tuff on crime policies don't work


[03-Mar-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very.


[03-Mar-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
why is this even a thing again?


[03-Mar-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because conservatives needed to have a victim complex


[03-Mar-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that people like ben shapiro, jordan peterson, and groups like turning point usa are formed just to throw as much shit at the wall until something sticks hard enough that they can sue


[03-Mar-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
and use the legal system as a weapon against anything left of center


[03-Mar-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s pretty much that and an attempt to keep the red scare tactics in place


[03-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the main argument of fascists is


[03-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's okay to say that ____ are inferior


[03-Mar-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they basically want to operate liek the west boro baptist church


[03-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you stop me from spreading my propaganda and disinformation, you are just a hypocrite, liberal!


[03-Mar-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then liberals go "well, he has a point"


[03-Mar-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then the left is arguing with itself while the far right is out literally killing people


[03-Mar-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
(via the legislature, police, and court system being influenced by their propaganda and misinformation)


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they bait people into attacking them so they can sue for everything thye have and point at thme and go"See! we're the peaceful ones, liberals and heretics are the violent felons!"


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is if you take anything but token gestures to stop them spreading hatred


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and especially if you ever do any hint of violence


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
they raise hell over it


[03-Mar-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the westboro baptist church is the perfect example of this


[03-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, if they do violence, or stop you spreading love


[03-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you won't raise hell


[03-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they'll stop you from doing so if you try


[03-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all about controlling the narrative to constantly make it out like the people who want to kill particular races are peaceful, and the ones calling for tolerance violent


[03-Mar-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh westboro is actually still doign these pickets


[03-Mar-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://wtvr.com/2019/03/01/westboro-baptist-church-vcu/

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https://wtvr.com/2019/03/01/westboro-baptist-church-vcu/
VCU responds to Westboro Baptist Church event near Richmond campus
Westboro Baptist Church is planning to visit Virginia Commonwealth University and the Virginia State Capitol on March 11.
https://localtvwtvr.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/vcu1.jpeg?quality=85&strip=all&w=1200


[03-Mar-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah i dont see trumps new executive order going very far past scotus


[03-Mar-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's how fascism can operate in a liberal country


[03-Mar-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists are all about making any lie to win


[03-Mar-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so they craft lies to abuse the liberal protections to get to where they can be in power.


[03-Mar-19 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fascists are annoying leeches


[03-Mar-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dangerous annoying leeches


[03-Mar-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to politics.


[03-Mar-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately we;ve already been aquanted


[03-Mar-19 04:55 AM] moonatik#3676

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[03-Mar-19 04:55 AM] moonatik#3676
i don't think I'll ever forget this


[03-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because fraud and theft hav a huge disparity


[03-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You commit fraud, you get a slap on the wrist


[03-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you steal cookies from someone, you can go to jail


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
not even joking, it has happened more than once


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the point is to hurt the poor


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause the poor steal, they don't usually commit much fraud


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
except welfare fraud


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which conservatives like to talk up as being a problem


[03-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you will NEVER see welfare fraud's total reach 3 billion dollars


[03-Mar-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if high-profile white-collar criminals are as costly to keep as inmates as violent criminals but I wouldn't be surprised if that is a factor as well. I somehow doubt Martha Stewart was fed prison loaf. And even if a lot of the prisons in the US aren't private for-profit centers (which is a uniquely American evil), they have enough lobbyists and contractors that they're basically in charge of the system


[03-Mar-19 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that right there is why you'll see pot dealers get massively longer sentences than murderers, because pot dealers by and large are low maintenance, y'know?


[03-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It costs basically nothing to hold violent criminals


[03-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main costs are labor and facilities


[03-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need expensive amounts of both for very violent or very high class prisoners


[03-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But violent criminals you can cram together


[03-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's a lower price per prisoner


[03-Mar-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, non-violent, low-class criminals?


[03-Mar-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shove 'em in double cells and let the cash flow in etc.


[03-Mar-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence prisons make a killing off of drug arrests.


[03-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNd2bvLvyk4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNd2bvLvyk4
#Panodrama - An Exposé of the Fake News BBC!
Facebook deleted me because of this video, please share this! Sign up at https://www.tr.news so I can contact you when I eventually get deleted. -Taxpayer-fu...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wNd2bvLvyk4/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Tommy Robinson has a long vid about the bbc


[03-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is so retarded. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/25/tesla-shares-fall-on-report-sec-asks-judge-to-hold-elon-musk-in-contempt-for-violating-deal.html

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SEC asks judge to hold Tesla CEO Elon Musk in contempt for violati...
Musk has until March 11 to explain to the court why he should not be held in contempt, according to an order filed Tuesday.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2017/10/10/104763989-GettyImages-855370098-elon-musk.1910x1000.jpg


[03-Mar-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Elon messed up some detail in a tweet and now the SEC is furious because they think it means he hasn't been getting pre-approval.


[03-Mar-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're like HE SLIGHTLY MISSTATED SOMETHING FOR FOUR HOURS REEEEE


[03-Mar-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty likely the SEC is being pressured by someone in the Trump administration who's not a big fan of Elon.


[03-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Wasn't this a while ago?


[03-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, new zealand has private prisons too


[03-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
and they have the exact same problem as the US


[03-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is recent


[03-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Oh nm I thought this was the 420 stock price thing


[03-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The original mess was in October


[03-Mar-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fair enough


[03-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
not nearly on the same scale as the US, but ever since privatization there's been a dramatic increase in prisoners


[03-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Private prisons are cancer


[03-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
13th amendment specifically has a loop hole to allow criminal to be slaves and they sure as shit do it. Prison labor is a human rights violation


[03-Mar-19 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservative groups basically grift colleges because they know people will start shit


[03-Mar-19 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Step 1: Get a borderline neo-Nazi to speak for your "libertarian" group


[03-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Step 2: Promote it, forment discontent and get canned


[03-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Step 3: Get a Breitbart interview and shame the college


[03-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any smart college outright denies these people because they know their game


[03-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The absolute _last_ things these groups want is a conservative speaker that has no protest attached


[03-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no appeal to them speaking on a "Liberal institution" unless they can talk about how people tried to "silence" them


[03-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
a silent boycott would be the worst possible thing for those types


[03-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
but that requires coordination


[03-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
and if there's anything the left is known for, it's being uncoordinated


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if that guy was just silently surrounded by a mob


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
not touching him


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't get college-aged people to be silent


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
but preventing him from leaving


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're young, yet adult


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will throw shit


[03-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives want a safe space in a place that they vehemently think is degenerate


[03-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only slightly related but I was watching coverage of a Kickstarter campaign where the person was talking about stupid AI claims about how they can make a Siri clone as smart as a human


[03-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they got some Nobel Prize winner from the 60s who fell into pseudoscience in the 70s after they became a hippie to vouch for them


[03-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who has spent the past 40 years basically screeching about "I have a Nobel Prize, modern science is dumb" and now calls modern science fake news


[03-Mar-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
You know what


[03-Mar-19 05:26 PM] ononim#8141
fuck it


[03-Mar-19 05:26 PM] ononim#8141
I  will not read full Kapital *AND* Atlas Shruges both combined worth of posts


[03-Mar-19 05:26 PM] ononim#8141
what happened of interest here


[03-Mar-19 05:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing spectacular, just another Trump claim that he's gonna sign an executive order about free speech at colleges (which he does not have the power to do) because conservative safe spaces


[03-Mar-19 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i notice he over estimates what executive orders can do constantly


[03-Mar-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again he also likely uses them as a minor form of distraction as well


[03-Mar-19 08:14 PM] illumnious#7938
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH http://fortune.com/2018/09/06/melania-trump-new-york-times-op-ed-anonymous/

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'You Are Not Protecting This Country.' Melania Trump Responds to N...
"A free press is important to our democracy," the First Lady also said.
https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/gettyimages-513647770.jpg?w=1024


[03-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yet a few months later the conservative media was creaming itself over an anonymous Trump supporter within government who said every federal worker was against him and that he should just kill all of these programs


[03-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again if/when Sullivan is overturned we'll get the litigious libel Hell the UK has which is what conservatives want.


[03-Mar-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[03-Mar-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Godwin


[03-Mar-19 08:50 PM] illumnious#7938
@prism stryder(intexda) he's selling his merch you know


[03-Mar-19 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know the point is it ended up in a reccomended list i think


[03-Mar-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt make the screen cap


[03-Mar-19 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought that was real for a moment


[03-Mar-19 08:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump would do that


[03-Mar-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
credit goes to the edited date


[03-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/432371-schiff-cites-2016-trump-tower-meeting-as-direct-evidence-of

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https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/432371-schiff-cites-2016-trump-tower-meeting-as-direct-evidence-of
Schiff claims there's already 'direct evidence' of collusion by Tr...
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Sunday that he believes a Russian lawyer's 2016 offer of damaging information on Hillary Clinton to members of the Trump campaign and their subsequent meeting amounts to "direc
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schiffadam_011119gn_lead.jpg


[03-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/432378-rand-paul-to-vote-against-trumps-national-emergency-declaration

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Rand Paul to vote against Trump's national emergency declaration
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said that he will oppose President Trump's national emergency declaration to fund a wall along the southern border, as the Senate prepares to vote on a resolution to block it.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump_022819getty.jpg


[03-Mar-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo


[04-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-47419918/russian-jehovah-s-witnesses-claim-state-tortured-them

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'Electrocuted' for being a Jehovah's Witness
Seven Jehovah's Witnesses claim they were tortured by police in Russia because of their faith.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/4F5C/production/_105861302_p072cczb.jpg


[04-Mar-19 02:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Can't blame them tbh


[04-Mar-19 02:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Religion is a choice


[04-Mar-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess that's me cue to ignore everything you ever say


[04-Mar-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't let anything get in the way of Cult of Daddy Putin


[04-Mar-19 02:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm just shit posting lol


[04-Mar-19 02:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'd be all for nationalizing church property and turning them all into homeless shelters tho


[04-Mar-19 02:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Go have worship in the woods tbh


[04-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
~~god isn't real tho~~


[04-Mar-19 02:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or have shared communal places of worship that takes up way less property


[04-Mar-19 02:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Keep a small portion of churches for all religions to share


[04-Mar-19 02:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
After all, none of em need to use the church 24h a day


[04-Mar-19 02:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm sure they can have scheduled hours/days for each wanky religion


[04-Mar-19 02:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Get people off the streets, install PO boxes for the homeless in the ex churches so they can have mailing addresses


[04-Mar-19 02:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or they can just have no churches and worship at some boomer's multi-story house lmao


[04-Mar-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
>"Go worship in the woods"


[04-Mar-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxq9nSK73ec

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Gods & Radicals A Site of Beautiful Resistance
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Pagan Anarchism
Trailer for Pagan Anarchism by Christopher Scott Thompson
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[04-Mar-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
EARTH MOTHER, PROVIDE US STRENGTH IN LA RESISTANCE


[04-Mar-19 03:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.msnbc.com/david-gura/watch/did-trump-hit-all-the-right-marks-with-his-cpac-speech-1451263555613


[04-Mar-19 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/03/theres-an-app-for-that.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/03/theres-an-app-for-that.html
Google says it won't remove Saudi government app that lets men tra...
Google says it won't remove Saudi government app that lets men track and monitor their wives and domestic employees
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/5c691618dde86732d3071d1c-1136-852.jpg


[04-Mar-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[04-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thisisinsider.com/absher-google-refuses-to-remove-saudi-govt-app-that-tracks-women-2019-3

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Google, siding with Saudi Arabia, refuses to remove widely-critici...
Google reviewed the app — called Absher — and ruled that it does not violate any agreements, and therefore will remain on Google Play.
https://amp.thisisinsider.com/images/5c7aa09ceb3ce814817fd5c3-1136-568.jpg


[04-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
at this point, the US should nationalize google


[04-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
google's conspiring with enemies of democracy and the US to undermine US authority and values at this point


[04-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can either be neutral and let people use your store for whatever shit they want


[04-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
or you can not


[04-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Google has chosen the latter quite clearly in the past


[04-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they cannot claim neutrality in this.


[04-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
congress members are angry at this


[04-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
> The decision was communicated by Google to the office of Rep. Jackie Speier, a California Democrat who, with other members of Congress, wrote last week to demand they remove the service.


[04-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
you literally can't get more anti-freedom than this


[04-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically an app for slavery


[04-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
as a society, we're better off without google at this point


[04-Mar-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
man do you remember way back when, Google had a motto of "don't be evil?"


[04-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that the conservatives who spew bullshit about "muh freedom" without having even the slightest understanding of what the word means would applaud saudi arabia for this app


[04-Mar-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
and applaud google for not ""censoring"" it


[04-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-women-flee.html

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By BEN HUBBARD and RICHARD C. PADDOCK
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-women-flee.html
Saudi Women, Tired of Restraints, Find Ways to Flee
Often aided and inspired by social media, an increasing number of young Saudi women are taking enormous gambles to escape the country, rights groups say.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/12/world/12saudirunaways1/xxsaudirunaways1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
>In order to flee, Nourah used her father’s phone to give herself permission to travel, disabled his notifications and flew to Turkey. From there she traveled to Georgia, then bought a ticket to Australia via the United Arab Emirates, although she feared that the Emirati government would catch her in transit and return her to Saudi Arabia.


[04-Mar-19 05:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article226944034.html

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This bill would have ended child marriage for those under age in I...
Idaho has no minimum age for marriage as long as parents and a judge consent. Boise Democratic Rep. Melissa Wintrow introduced a bill to make 16 the minimum age to marry in Idaho. It failed in the House.
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[04-Mar-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can get some of the Republican Libertarian arguments on the matter, but they're completely inconsistent with all other Republican policy on social matters.


[04-Mar-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want the state and courts to be completely uninvolved in marriage, then do that instead of this hodgepodge.


[04-Mar-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“I do not think courts should be involved in marriage at all,” said Bryan Zollinger, R-Idaho Falls. “I don’t believe there should be a license required to get married. I think two willing people should be able to go and get married.”'


[04-Mar-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, dude, you are not gonna make a license not a requirement


[04-Mar-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
why the fukk is it a problem to set limitations like this when the courts are super involved?


[04-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, for that matter


[04-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
this would make it so the courts are less involved


[04-Mar-19 06:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Lolbertarians: what if the child consents tho?


[04-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
since it'd set it such that things start at 16, where a court isn't required


[04-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather than having this weirdness of asking a judge permission to marry a 13-year-old


[04-Mar-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The really consistent approach would be to lower it to like 14, no lower, and require parental consent


[04-Mar-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than ANY AGE UNDER 16 judge consent, and then 16-17 parental consent


[04-Mar-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that would be a good compromise


[04-Mar-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would take away the most excessive cases (13) while making the gov't less involved.


[04-Mar-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But noooooo


[04-Mar-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what they're ever gonna push for


[04-Mar-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's so fukking inconsistent.


[04-Mar-19 06:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maybe just let noone marry til 21


[04-Mar-19 06:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Marriage is a complex economic choice


[04-Mar-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
And honestly no-one knows someone or themselves well enough til then to commit to sticking with someone


[04-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
@dissociativity it's more like LINOS: We oppose going to the gov't for when the child consents, but we've decided it's somehow better than setting age limits


[04-Mar-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
Arranged marriages are fucked anyway


[04-Mar-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's most what this is for


[04-Mar-19 06:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Abolish the economic institution of marriage and bring back the old AmeriIndian institution of marriage where the relationship lasts as long as the consent exists. The ultimate chad tier


[04-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marriages should require the consent of both those involved before consent of any parents, yes.


[04-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, UBI drastically lowers marrying for economic reasons


[04-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's part of why Republicans hate UBI


[04-Mar-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want women pressured into marrying because of financial security.


[04-Mar-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
If you're making a kid marry at even 16 they're probably not consenting


[04-Mar-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should like, require the kid say it in private free from the parent watching etc. at least


[04-Mar-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but noooo, libertarians will insist that's gov't overreach


[04-Mar-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians just want the parents putting twelve year olds together in a bakk alley


[04-Mar-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see where the bill failed, FFS


[04-Mar-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would require the court to say yes on 16/17-year-olds


[04-Mar-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was pushing too much at once and upset the libertarians because of it


[04-Mar-19 07:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3I1YDbSLQk

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To Honour the Dissidents
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[04-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoHRQ-fN_0

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoHRQ-fN_0
The Social Credit System Is HERE, Conservatives BANNED From Banking
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[04-Mar-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
... "aided by big tech companies who push insane rules and ideology"


[04-Mar-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
hmmm, I wonder which party is big on regulation of giant companies who walk all over both the consumer and the competition


[04-Mar-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
hint: it's neither the republican party nor the mainstream democratic party


[04-Mar-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
mainstream democrats are neoliberal, mainstream republicans are also neoliberal, and all of the non-neoliberal republicans want market regulation even less


[04-Mar-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
also, "social credit systems" aren't a leftist thing specifically, they're an authoritarian thing


[04-Mar-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
ALL governments want social credit systems


[04-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, pretty much every video/article/etc I come across talking about the app is being astroturfed super hard by the saudis


[04-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPDkh3n76zE>


[04-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.gov.moi&hl=en_US

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Absher - Apps on Google Play
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3PThH6Ht40pdafmku3hnD6yHag97svzqelHeDdl5L15Rq0FXxCsfzlxdY91CloL0kzU


[04-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457

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[04-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sa.gov.moi&hl=en_US&reviewId=gp%3AAOqpTOEW0pm08PAZZHCqxWXWIwRupdTQgcVKF8JFP2WyLFjc2GsYlgpd6Twccj3CIP7CKfQL8zS0ACbntI0so1M>


[04-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
direct link to the review


[04-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[04-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, china a shit, arabia a shit, russia a shit, and the US is paralyzed by an orange turd from doing anything about all 3


[04-Mar-19 09:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://youtu.be/2s4Y-uZG5zk

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The Intercept
https://youtu.be/2s4Y-uZG5zk
The Rise of Surveillance Capitalism
Join The Intercept’s senior correspondent Naomi Klein and Harvard Business School professor Shoshana Zuboff, author of “The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: T...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2s4Y-uZG5zk/hqdefault.jpg


[04-Mar-19 09:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
Related, -your very profitable data


[04-Mar-19 09:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
I have one of Naomi Klein's books I have to read.


[04-Mar-19 09:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gotta finish this cocaine book first tho. Almost done.


[04-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
great, now even the books are peddling opioids >:V


[04-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
here in the Trump administration


[04-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
we like to validate dictators


[04-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
and act like they're good people


[04-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
"hitler's a great guy, real great, he treats his people well"


[04-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
"this holocaust? it's all fake news, fabricated by CNN"


[04-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HHZI_pe3w

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Guardian News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HHZI_pe3w
The most bizarre moments from Donald Trump’s CPAC speech
Donald Trump gave his longest speech yet at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), an annual gathering of conservative politicians and pundits....
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[04-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Mikey#7286
god bless the unitedshates


[04-Mar-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-blames-Cohen-testimony-for-failure-of-13660178.php

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Trump blames Cohen testimony for failure of summit with North Korea
WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump said Sunday that the congressional testimony of Michael Cohen, his former personal lawyer and fixer, was in part responsible for the collapse in negotiations with North Korea over its nuclear program last week - continuing to vent about the...
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[04-Mar-19 01:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Kim does not give a shit about that.


[04-Mar-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no he really doesnt


[04-Mar-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but trump thinks he does which is exactly what kim wanted


[04-Mar-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is why no previous president has tried to talk it out calmly with Kim, he;s a manipulative shit weasel who knows how to play games


[04-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Mar-19 06:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Geoffrey_Cox/status/1102553866837606400

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https://twitter.com/Geoffrey_Cox/status/1102553866837606400
The DT reporting of the last 24 hours consists of misunderstood fag ends dressed up as facts. Some of it is accurate, much more of it isn’t and what is not is far more significant than what is. Complex and detailed negotiations cannot be conducted in public. 

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[04-Mar-19 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
wha


[04-Mar-19 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
what is this even


[04-Mar-19 06:34 PM] Litrojia#0612
***GET OUTLOOK FOR IOS***


[04-Mar-19 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
was this generated by neutral network or something


[04-Mar-19 06:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, brexit would be far less silly if AI were involved


[04-Mar-19 06:37 PM] ononim#8141
Like I legit don't understand, is he calling someone slurs, is he mentions cigaretes, what he even talks about in the first place why the fuck should I get outlook for ios


[04-Mar-19 06:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just


[04-Mar-19 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Get Outlook for iOS


[04-Mar-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, with people in the party going on record that they support child marriage


[04-Mar-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How did the _Democrats_ ever turn out to be the ones accused of sex trafficking children?


[04-Mar-19 07:14 PM] ononim#8141
Its you don't understand


[04-Mar-19 07:15 PM] ononim#8141
They are supportiung *"traditional"* child marriage, a real cornerstone of culture and community, not like these Libs who participate in degenerate non monogamous orgies which aslo Satanic or something


[04-Mar-19 07:33 PM] illumnious#7938
@Teaspoon @Litrojia

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[04-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Litrojia#0612
Geoffrey Cox QC MP would be proud of you


[04-Mar-19 07:37 PM] illumnious#7938
I know


[04-Mar-19 07:42 PM] ononim#8141
bit offtopic but...


[04-Mar-19 07:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://medium.com/@lauriecharles/jk-rowling-was-always-this-terrible-35424df65b54

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JK Rowling was always this terrible – Laurie Charles – Medium
The polyjuice potion has worn off.
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[04-Mar-19 07:42 PM] ononim#8141
```Hardcore Potter fans only now coming to terms with Rowling’s predilection to side with bullies may find themselves wondering: how could the author who invented an exclusive school for quasi-aristocratic magical Übermensch living off invisible slave labour turn out to be so reactionary?```


[04-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Mikey#7286
What


[04-Mar-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
context needed?


[04-Mar-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what has jk rowling done exactly?


[04-Mar-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
Nothing until the last few years


[04-Mar-19 07:53 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
How can opponents of the second amendment believe that the entire military will fire upon it's own people in the case of rebellion? Do they just ignore the Civil War?


[04-Mar-19 07:53 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
The assumption is that you'll have to fight the entire military but that's historically not the case


[04-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
If there is an uprising, there's bound to be at least two factions


[04-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
That's just not a valid argument to ban guns


[04-Mar-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html
Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Underpaying ...
After a recent study, the company gave raises to thousands of men after determining they were earning less than women in similar jobs.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/05/business/05GOOGLEPAY-1/05GOOGLEPAY-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
@Mikey, her explanation for house elves is shit


[04-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
people had to develop fan theories to make them palatable


[04-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
she basically added an entire slave underclass that all of hogwarts is built upon that works for free with no questions asked


[04-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
and wrote hermione as being considered a strange, hysterical girl for trying to free them


[04-Mar-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[04-Mar-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
wait what what? it's exactly what it says on the tin


[04-Mar-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
jk rowling was supporting depp when he was announced as playing the role of grindelwald right when he was going through divorce proceedings for physically and mentally abusing his soon-to-be ex-wife


[04-Mar-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ethan-lindenberger-teen-who-defied-mother-by-getting-vaccinated-to-testify-before-congress/

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Teen who defied mother by getting vaccinated to testify before Con...
Ethan Lindenberger will discuss the importance of vaccines at a Senate committee hearing
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[04-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Parents who refuse vaccinations for their children should hav their children taken away.


[04-Mar-19 08:54 PM] Mikey#7286
@Crow ok


[04-Mar-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember


[04-Mar-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
canonically, Harry's father was an asshole bully


[04-Mar-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
who treated Snape like shit in order to get the girl Snape wanted


[04-Mar-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Snape dies alone and unloved in the end.


[04-Mar-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen crimes of grindelwald yet


[04-Mar-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i havent really read the books


[04-Mar-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i dont really know much of the politics in the books themselves onyl what i;ve seen int he movies


[04-Mar-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[04-Mar-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
it's like people forgot that slavery used to be a very big thing


[04-Mar-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We arent willing to be slaves to get promotions" "You millenial entitled monster!"


[04-Mar-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're barely gettign anything out of jobs anymore at this point, what is a slave driven promotion going to do for us except give the boss more money?


[04-Mar-19 09:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1102661631568461824?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1102661631568461824?s=21
Now that the Dems are going to try & switch from Collusion to some other reason, it makes them continue to look like sore losers who didn’t accept the WILL OF THE PEOPLE in the last election - they will do anything to get rid of the President.” @AriFleischer It will...
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[04-Mar-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you keep telling yourself that


[04-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Litrojia#0612
"switch from Collusion"


[04-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Litrojia#0612
ha


[04-Mar-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it;s collusion on top of other reasons


[04-Mar-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly involving child prostitutes


[04-Mar-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic


[04-Mar-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Invistigate for conspiracy, he says no collusion


[04-Mar-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
investigate for other things, should've stukk to collusion


[04-Mar-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The goalposts just teleport with Trump.


[04-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people that like him only because "he makes liberals mad"


[04-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But they're also the _first_ people to bitch about "anti-consumer" things like Pai's FCC or lootboxes etc


[04-Mar-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I guess it connects because they focus most of their ire on LGBT hate but love traps


[04-Mar-19 09:31 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
but epic libtard trolling funni xddd


[04-Mar-19 09:31 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:sosmol:


[04-Mar-19 09:33 PM] Yuri#4154
Some people would set themselves on fire if they thought it'd "trigger the libz"


[04-Mar-19 09:37 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
To be honest, I don't care for liberals or the dominant leftist media in America, but conservatives are just as childish and foolish


[04-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It would seem that conservatives don't have a moral compass without their precious Religion, though


[04-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
~~not like they actually had one to begin with but still~~


[04-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Authority before reason.


[04-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So that rep that is getting grilled for criticizing Israel


[04-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see what she's saying that is so bad


[04-Mar-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe pointing out that the Israel lobby is a thing and people are paid?


[04-Mar-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And saying you shouldn't have to show loyalty to a foreign power to be a US elected official?


[04-Mar-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just read an op ed that criticized her and "militant secularism"


[04-Mar-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
a p a r t h e i d    s t a t e


[04-Mar-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically isreal is paying off politicians in an attempt to kill off the anti isreali business boycott by calling it anti semitic


[04-Mar-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So let me get this straight


[04-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can refuse to bake a gay wedding cake but not say you don't support a random foreign power?


[04-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[04-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
authority before reason


[04-Mar-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep there's major lawsuits going on right now with teahcing jobs and such because the contracts come with an anti isreali boycott clause


[04-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans *do not* care about consistency of their message


[04-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
You toe the party line or you die.


[04-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can tell them they're not internally consistent; *they don't care if you're right or not*


[04-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They only care that people fall in line.


[04-Mar-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The best thing you can do is call out this bullshit to people who actually care about being anything other than massive hypocritical shitpiles of evil.


[04-Mar-19 09:46 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Isn't American politics about selling out to lobbyists


[04-Mar-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Independents and some Democrats, that is)


[04-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
American politics is about taking as gospel what the 1% on your side of the divide say


[04-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
With Democrats being willing to put one foot in 99% territory and question things to get broader appeal


[04-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Republicans say anyone who isn't with them is against them because they are literally Sith Lords


[04-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's 1% by income, note.


[04-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in the people with the most money.


[04-Mar-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if regulations werent a thing i;m wholely convinced they would bring bakc nazi era mad science with thoughts of profiting


[04-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean forced labor of gypsies building excessive military projects


[04-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alongside snazzy uniforms


[04-Mar-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i mean sewing twins together and shit


[04-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis weren't big on the biological side of things.


[04-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They had most control in engineering and fashion


[04-Mar-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah yours is also probable


[04-Mar-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result buing perfect uniforms and tanks except that some crucial parts would be sabotaged by someone who was literally being worked to death.


[04-Mar-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'd also bring back slavery but this time it woud be anyone under a certain social line and not just black people


[04-Mar-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it woudl still be mostly blakc people just with tons of poverty stricken white people, asians, and the homeless


[04-Mar-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and latinos


[04-Mar-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean the prison system?


[04-Mar-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but broader


[04-Mar-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We imprison more people than any other country


[04-Mar-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just mean the prison system.


[04-Mar-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and without  having to go thorugh a judge


[04-Mar-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much yeah


[04-Mar-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how is this the land of the free again?


[04-Mar-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
free labor?


[04-Mar-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lnd of the free labor


[04-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, what they're doing right now is making so many little things offenses


[04-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
that there are so many people in the court system


[04-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
that public defenders hav like 5 minutes per case


[04-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they raise bail above what you can pay


[04-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that you just plead guilty


[04-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
that way, most cases never reach a judge


[04-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
the criminal justice system is so harsh in this country


[04-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
And the way employers treat felons is also terrible


[04-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
You were in prison? Sorry, you have to be homeless now


[04-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way they can go to prison again


[04-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause homelessness leads to drug use and theft


[04-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
drug use is harshly penalized by prison time.


[04-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
For a supposedly Christian country, employers in the USA do not practice forgiveness


[04-Mar-19 10:19 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Mar-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
>supposedly christian


[04-Mar-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[04-Mar-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
whatever you're smoking, I want some cause that's fucking funny


[04-Mar-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/world/europe/nobel-peace-prize-trump-fake-nomination.html

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By HENRIK PRYSER LIBELL
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/world/europe/nobel-peace-prize-trump-fake-nomination.html
Trump’s Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize Was Apparently Forg...
The police in Oslo said they were in contact with the F.B.I. about the forgeries, which suggests that they originated in the United States.
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[05-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
A year old lol


[05-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unfortunate name for a journalist.


[05-Mar-19 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So what does that say about this year's nomination


[05-Mar-19 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
considering this *article* is a year old


[05-Mar-19 12:21 AM] ononim#8141
http://time.com/5534595/polish-catholic-priest-statue/

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Polish Activists Pull Down Statue of Catholic Priest Accused of Abuse
The protest came hours before Pope Francis' landmark sex abuse prevention summit
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[05-Mar-19 12:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/world/europe/14jankowski.html

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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/world/europe/14jankowski.html
Henryk Jankowski, Pro-Solidarity Priest, Dies at  73
The Rev. Henryk Jankowski supported the Solidarity movement in Poland, but his reputation was marred by anti-Semitic remarks and a sexual abuse investigation.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/icons/t_logo_291_black.png


[05-Mar-19 01:12 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.facebook.com/ketwon.bradby/videos/2230468786974782/?__xts__[0]=68.ARAE4tTjBH9PUVNmQdSXPs8GCee9elUYnJerpqCDzC2ooYAk3La0o8rO3BU1yLg0ZpXd9035NzVLnkDXuG5WbQyo7ZPGesokEjHsWmhntaV5rZdaNLEXfe6QOPpcjHldDPUpIgBasy62vIWfUobiFqlKaVaCSlM-5l_R1GLsxqkTRklSIWKEa4sJKg5U0iCG6t5Ny9fvFiXny1QYnm8cmeneRMv6qEP93u6a5UuR0CwiRa5GnFyG_kBdaFyeOmLsJKGcRBc_o21pZKPwtEBVxfLLKhd71zki3v2Zcxl2uxhqpGeIZ4vQMhtR6TUC_qTUmagJg4Kn_iVsCjch8belepBIbMTsw6N30SMfXWqFZUrVyrQFOtKXgVYNKPprEfIGQyDYzg&__tn__=H-R

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Ketwon
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Ketwon Bradby
So this happend today at Randolph 🤦🏾‍♂️
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[05-Mar-19 01:47 AM] illumnious#7938
NBC News/WSJ poll: 2020 race will be uphill for Trump, but he has strong party loyalty https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-wsj-poll-2020-race-will-be-uphill-trump-n978331

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NBC News/WSJ poll: 2020 race will be uphill for Trump, but he has ...
NBC News/WSJ poll finds President Trump facing headwinds on Russia investigation and border wall but bolstered by strong GOP support and a good economy.
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[05-Mar-19 01:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trT51Ykqe8k

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The Grayzone
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Max Blumenthal searches for communist dictatorship at Venezuelan l...
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal investigated Venezuela's "humanitarian crisis" in a luxury mall in a rich pro-opposition neighborhood, where he looked for the ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/trT51Ykqe8k/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/omar-israel-house-democrats-1201881

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House Dems will take floor action to confront Omar’s latest Isra...
The freshman Democrat is clashing with senior lawmakers who view her remarks as anti-Semitic.
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[05-Mar-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
the house democrats want to pass a resolution to publicly shame omar for claiming that she shouldn't be expected to hold any loyalty to a foreign nation (israel), and house republicans want to strip her of her position on the foreign affairs committee


[05-Mar-19 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Independent socialist caucus now.


[05-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
" Omar has received support from prominent progressive figures, including fellow freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) — the first Palestinian-American congresswoman, who has also strongly argued that U.S. policy toward Israel should be overhauled. Another popular progressive, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), has also come to Omar's defense."


[05-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, where is that video from?


[05-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like someone might've swatted the school


[05-Mar-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/health/aids-cure-london-patient.html

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By APOORVA MANDAVILLI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/health/aids-cure-london-patient.html
H.I.V. Is Reported Cured in a Second Patient, a Milestone in the G...
Scientists have long tried to duplicate the procedure that led to the first long-term remission 12 years ago. With the so-called London patient, they seem to have succeeded.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/05/science/05HIV1/05HIV1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Mar-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[05-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
why politics tho


[05-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
science isn't politics >:V


[05-Mar-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
because only black people get aids


[05-Mar-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
there now I made it political


[05-Mar-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
happy?


[05-Mar-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
no u


[05-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables.html

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By AMY CHOZICK
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables.html
Hillary Clinton Calls Many Trump Backers ‘Deplorables,’ and G....
Mrs. Clinton later said she had spoken too broadly, then doubled down on what she called Mr. Trump’s appeal to prejudice.
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[05-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
so I discovered that hillary called people who vote for trump "deplorables" during the campaign


[05-Mar-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
that was an incredibly dumb thing to do imo


[05-Mar-19 05:05 AM] Litrojia#0612
I remember that


[05-Mar-19 05:05 AM] Litrojia#0612
going to a mostly-conservative high school at the time, people were all over that


[05-Mar-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
She really failed to connect on so many occasions


[05-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Litrojia#0612
I remember seeing a couple kids with shirts along the lines of "PROUD DEPLORABLE"


[05-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Litrojia#0612
In retrospect, *damn* she was not a good candidate


[05-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Litrojia#0612
Most of the 2020 Dems would've been better


[05-Mar-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We really weren't left with much of a choice


[05-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Litrojia#0612
Hardly anyone even dared to run against her


[05-Mar-19 05:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then again, looking at the republican 2016 primary candidates...maybe we did


[05-Mar-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least *some* of the people running for the Dem nomination were viable options


[05-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Litrojia#0612
Bernie did decently well because he had a fresh message and took advantage of Hillary's weaknesses, but the others couldn't distinguish themselves from her, so without name recognition they just folded


[05-Mar-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he also did well because the troll farms specifically supported him to split the vote, in hindsight


[05-Mar-19 05:11 AM] Litrojia#0612
Fair


[05-Mar-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
along with the green party candidate - that was the first year *ever* I heard people seriously throwing their vote at a third party


[05-Mar-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like personally


[05-Mar-19 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iirc Stein took more of the vote than the previous three green candidates combined


[05-Mar-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/trump-national-emergency.html

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By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and EMILY COCHRANE
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/politics/trump-national-emergency.html
Trump’s Grip Shows Signs of Slipping as Senate Prepares to Block...
Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, conceded that he could not stop the Senate from overturning President Trump’s national emergency declaration.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/05/us/politics/05dc-trumpcong/05dc-trumpcong-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Mar-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally taking a post-nixon era law to start putting a dent into trump's seeming unstoppable rampage


[05-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
everything else has been blocked by mcconnell


[05-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
it was specifically designed so that the majority leader and house speaker couldn't block the vote


[05-Mar-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, mcconell is the donor for Donald's lip transplant


[05-Mar-19 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what I kinda wanna know is how Pence has managed to dodge the heat so far, 'cause I think it's awfully suspicious that everyone involved in the campaign is turning out to have been deeply tied to the scandal *except him somehow*


[05-Mar-19 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I say that in the hopes that someone can provide sources, 'cause he's been largely invisible in media coverage of the investigation


[05-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mike "Turn a sexual harassment lawsuit into a sexual discrimination one" Pence


[05-Mar-19 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh trust me I'm well aware of his antics, particularly as gov of indiana


[05-Mar-19 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just kinda wondering when, if, or how the Mueller probe is going to turn an eye on him


[05-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, on calling her "AOC" or her name


[05-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just took a look at a story on Google news and the only site using "AOC" was the Washington Examiner


[05-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is basically Breitbart in fancy clothing


[05-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I can pretty confidently say that they're using the abbreviation of her twitter handle for a propagandistic purpose of some kind


[05-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYP uses "Oscario-Cortez", others use full name


[05-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/04/president-donald-trumps-approval-numbers-continue-climb/3053565002/

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President Trump's approval rating continues to climb
Trump's rising poll numbers come despite the record 35-day government shutdown, which most voters blamed on the president.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/04/USAT/3ea247fb-9994-4e68-b7e6-d423f4c64f15-AP_Trump.JPG?crop=1735,976,x597,y182&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[05-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
as of right now, there's not likely to be someone to beat trump just because the candidate isn't trump


[05-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
basically people are forgetting about the shutdown already


[05-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
even though that should be brought up at every possible corner


[05-Mar-19 11:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNfZO6aNSz8

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CBS' "anti-Maduro Rally" wasn't in Venezuela - Article debunked as...
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[05-Mar-19 11:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
oof'd


[05-Mar-19 11:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
>it was in Argentina


[05-Mar-19 11:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[05-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/05/politics/democratic-investigations-trump-entire-world/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/05/politics/democratic-investigations-trump-entire-world/index.html
Democratic investigations now target Trump's entire world
Nearly everyone in Donald Trump's world just became a potential witness.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190304121603-nadler-trump-split-super-tease.jpg


[05-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
I saw trump do the thing on twitter


[05-Mar-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/432579-hillary-clinton-says-shes-not-running-in-2020

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Hillary Clinton says she’s not running in 2020
Hillary Clinton says she's not running for president again.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/clintonhillary_10122018.jpg


[05-Mar-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Mar-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there isnt even a shut down this time, this is just what trump does


[05-Mar-19 02:50 PM] illumnious#7938
AGAIN?!


[05-Mar-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[05-Mar-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like come on man, atleast order some fucking pizza


[05-Mar-19 02:53 PM] illumnious#7938
what happened to the fucking fancy foods?


[05-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
He wants to stir up attention, as always


[05-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
We wouldn't know about this dinner otherwise


[05-Mar-19 02:56 PM] illumnious#7938
oh lord


[05-Mar-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prety much


[05-Mar-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he dfoesnt want to use the outstanding white house chefs because that;s what anyone else would do therefore uninterestign and not news worthy


[05-Mar-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hamberders bring rabings


[05-Mar-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, he could have them cook burgers


[05-Mar-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
have them cook less fancy burgers even


[05-Mar-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
since fancy burgers tend to be kinda weird to look at


[05-Mar-19 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
burgers aren't really supposed to be fancy food to begin with


[05-Mar-19 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it's cow scrap


[05-Mar-19 04:06 PM] Torr#5078
:blep: https://twitter.com/Humanists_UK/status/1102632680733265920

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It's actually happened...

A school in Birmingham has withdrawn its lessons on LGBT acceptance because 400 Muslim parents petitioned against it. This is not the way forward. 

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[05-Mar-19 04:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Welp


[05-Mar-19 04:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait, i thought you were against LGBT rights?


[05-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Torr#5078
I'm not. I only do baits. Besides, I didn't translate the part of "The uniqueness of marriage" and other things, because of laziness.


[05-Mar-19 04:39 PM] Torr#5078
:blep:


[05-Mar-19 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh. So, you're scatterbrained?


[05-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
he only does baits


[05-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
it doesn't need to be fake in order to be bait


[05-Mar-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i thought he'd be cheering at this decision and allying with the muslim parents if his opposition to LGBT people was genuine, it did sound like he was being genuine back in that old discussion


[05-Mar-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far, the only conclusion i got from his post history is that he's a conserv


[05-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Torr#5078
I just wanted to share that and read your answers. If you want, I can share more things like that.


[05-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Torr#5078
:selfboop:


[05-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Torr#5078
Hehe


[05-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Torr#5078
I mean, I liked, for example, Aaron's answer about the hauntology "of reproduction" and the "fetishization of a thing without understanding its meaning". I shared that and I didn't see too many objections from the original guy who wrote that.


[05-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Torr#5078
😛


[05-Mar-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.redd.it/y7tcn1z8zjj21.png

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[05-Mar-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If dubs Trump supporters become tankies soon


[05-Mar-19 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
Спасибо товарищу Трампу за наше счастливое детство


[05-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[05-Mar-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CaC


[05-Mar-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
waw


[05-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
c a w
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[05-Mar-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
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[05-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457

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[05-Mar-19 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
god, there's literally only one article with a title that doesn't immediately scream "hit piece"


[05-Mar-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
fox news is like "haha cortez didn't actually win anything" when she wasn't even the primary reason amazon pulled out of NYC, that was mostly local politicians and unions


[05-Mar-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
CNN is like "it's time we put this upstart down" (I actually read it, it doesn't say anything about any backlash happening, only postulates that there'll be one soon)


[05-Mar-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
new york post speaks for itself


[05-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
NBC news is literally the only one with an article actually worth considering at face value, let alone actually worth reading (it's the only one worth reading)


[05-Mar-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
and the new yorker is like the retarded redheaded stepchild of fox news with that title


[05-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html

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By CAITLIN DICKERSON
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html
Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross ...
The number of migrants apprehended on the southwest border is up about 90 percent from levels recorded at the same time last year, the authorities said.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/28/us/xxborder-vid-still2/xxborder-vid-still2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Mar-19 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bluesnews.com/s/198048/rape-day-steam-listing


[05-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/432695-trump-signals-white-house-wont-comply-with-democratic-probes

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Trump signals White House won't comply with Democratic probes
President Trump on Tuesday signaled the White House will not comply with a barrage of congressional investigations, accusing Democrats in the House of launching the probes to hurt his chances of winning reelection in 2020.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_030519getty.jpg


[05-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably a bad idea.


[05-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-creating-task-force-prevent-veteran-suicides/story?id=61481048

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President Donald Trump orders creation of new task force to preven...
President Donald Trump has ordered Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie to create a task force with a mission to prevent veteran suicides.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/trump-3-rt-ml-190305_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[05-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 he makes it illegal to commit suicide


[05-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
obviously the best way to care for our injured, suicidal veterans is to put them in solitary confinement


[05-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a unanimous SCOTUS case that demanded Nixon turn over the Watergate tapes


[05-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess Trump's lawyers don't count that


[05-Mar-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes mroe obstruction of justice will totally stop all the investigations


[05-Mar-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how this works, yep, can't argue with logic, it just aint there


[05-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/harvard-geneticist-no-populations-dna-is-pure/

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Harvard geneticist: No population’s DNA is ‘pure’
Geneticist David Reich discusses DNA findings that show how migration shaped Europe and southern Asia, and that “No population is, or ever could be, pure.”
https://news.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/022719_Reich_0752500.jpg?w=945


[05-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
this is why conservatives can't tolerate science


[05-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
it literally shits all over their flimsy arguments just by existing


[05-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr scientist (ironically named Reich) uses ancient DNA to prove that there's no such thing as a "pure" human


[05-Mar-19 10:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They tolerate only the science that supports their findings


[05-Mar-19 10:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which isn't exactly a very large pool


[05-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
and more importantly, that there can never be a naturally "pure" human


[05-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 conservatives push designer babbies


[05-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
despite them currently saying that we're "playing God" by doing so


[05-Mar-19 10:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm sure basically anyone mildly intelligent could have told you this was so before now. Even Marx at the least discusses primitive tool and commodity exchange between tribal groups let alone nations; and it's not a big jump from there to fucking.


[05-Mar-19 10:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What does "playing God" even mean?


[05-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
means "messing with God's plan with nature by modifying it" or whatever


[05-Mar-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
completely ignoring the fact that such an all-powerful, omnipotent, omniscient God not only planned for this happening, but actively encouraged it since it is actually happening


[05-Mar-19 10:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Since when did pro-religion become anti-science


[05-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
since the catholic church burned scientists for witchcraft


[05-Mar-19 10:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Thought we were past that degree of extremism :/


[05-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
of course, that doesn't actually happen anymore, but it's always been heavily religious institutions which seem to always somehow find a way to oppose science


[05-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
that's the basis of anti-GMO movements


[05-Mar-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[05-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
that genetic modification on the precise scale that we currently control it is somehow different from the blunt force approach we took with breeding cows, dogs, fruits, vegetables, etc


[05-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
that we can have increased yields within years instead of generations is quite literally a godsend for our exploding population


[05-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, it's nice to be able to directly (or as close to directly as you can get with these time scales) that humans as a species are mutty as fuck


[05-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
which is a good thing, literally nothing good came from the heavy incestual breeding of europe's royalty and nobility


[05-Mar-19 10:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm some insane mix of slav, Scot, and French so ok, whatever.


[05-Mar-19 10:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the Slav also probably being an insane mix of other undetermined shit. Like research on my last name has said it's Czech but the family history has the name coming from Poland.


[05-Mar-19 10:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fortunately the name means the same thing in both languages so that's p chill I guess.


[05-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
I mean from a ancient historical standpoint, the conservatives would just say "lul crossbreeding today is just modern day degeneracy, back during THAT time period was when people were TRUELY pure"


[05-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
moving the goalposts until they're so back in history even the TARDIS would have problems tracking them down


[05-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.apnews.com/3e8f6df82ebf40b3a4884f7a8d0da463

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Teen tells Senate why he defied his mom to get vaccinated
WASHINGTON (AP) — An Ohio teen defied his mother's anti-vaccine beliefs and started getting his shots when he turned 18 — and told Congress on Tuesday that it's crucial to counter fraudulent...
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[05-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
I really wish this would have an effect of getting politicians to start mandating vaccinations


[05-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
but people unironically argue that forcing vaccinations violates the first amendment


[05-Mar-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for who the parents? what aboutt he child's right to free speech?


[05-Mar-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
children, especially in the west and the US in particular, are treated like particularly sapient furniture to most laws


[05-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
though one thing that has been confirmed by the supreme court is that the constitution does apply to minors


[05-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
even the first amendment has been specifically confirmed


[05-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
it was ruled way back in 1943 that students cannot be forced to stand for or recite the pledge of allegiance, and that they cannot be punished for refusing to do so


[05-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
of course, a lot of conservative run schools have been ignoring that recently due to being empowered by the trump card


[05-Mar-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pledge of alleigience is creepy to start with


[05-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
but that's less of a conservative only thing and more of an authoritarian school power trip


[05-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
many people go into the public school system to teach kids just for the power trip they get from telling people they have power over what to do


[05-Mar-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[05-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
particularly on the administrative side


[05-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Honahue#0656
there are ethical and environmental concerns with GMO, switching around genes in a plant is probably mostly harmless but introducing genes from other things into a plant then putting it where there can be cross pollination is potentially as damaging as any invasive species


[05-Mar-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, it;s why a lot of tests of these things are kept to quarenteened grene hosues until they can be proven safe


[05-Mar-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a case of: if you put the genes of a plant that naturally produces and insecticide in self defense into another plant, and a monarch butterfly lands on it to feed the monarch could die.


[05-Mar-19 10:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the other hand, the old school way of selective breeding kept the genetic data fairly controlled in that way. While we didn't have a precise way of editing genetic data in the time span of a single generation it also didn't introduce anything that'd potentially kill something beneficial, like a butterfly.


[05-Mar-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
On that topic, fun-fact: the only reason we have strawberries is because we figured out how to build greenhouses or to net things off because otherwise old wild strawberries were small enough to be easily taken by sparrows and the Romans engaged in eons long battles with the birds over coveted strawberries.


[05-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Honahue#0656
quarenteening seems kinda redundant though, a lot of the reason to do GMO on plants is to make them insect or fungus resistant but if you're already in a clean room that seems like an expensive redundancy


[05-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Honahue#0656
Goldren Rice though probably a good thing


[05-Mar-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
But they wouldn't be the commercially large ones we have today until later, when we could close them off and select for the size of the berry and grow increasingly large berries until the birds couldn't steal them.


[05-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, the quarantine is specifically for untested plants so that insects and other animals can't come along and spread seeds/pollen/etc everywhere


[05-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
iirc we actually rediscovered how to give flavor to red delicious apples again via genetic engineering


[05-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
since we accidentally bred out all of its flavor when breeding for the appealing shiny red color


[05-Mar-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i hope those re-enter the market soon because red delicious apples are mushy bland nothing right now


[05-Mar-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
The other issue that comes up with genetically coded plants is the broadening of the legal domain of copyright. So companies now can trademark their plants, in the same way RoundUp Ready soy and corn is. Farmers now HAVE to buy seed from Monsanto itself and not keep a stash of seed on their own to plant the next year, increasing the already large proliferation and influence of massive agri-buisiness and basically killing independence even further.


[05-Mar-19 11:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Monsanto is almost as evil as the private prison industry, and I would be willing to accept arguments that they are more evil


[05-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, that's the ass backwards economic system though, not the direct fault of the modifications themselves


[05-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/05/fda-commissioner-scott-gottlieb-is-resigning.html

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FDA chief Gottlieb resigns as agency battles teen vaping, opioid c...
FDA chief Gottlieb leaves his post as the agency wages a pitched battle against teen smoking and tackles complex CBD regulations.
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[05-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/health/scott-gottlieb-resigns-fda.html>


[05-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
"Dr. Gottlieb had been subject to increasing pressure from some Republicans in Congress and his former associates in the conservative movement, for his tough stance against youth vaping and traditional cigarettes. A coalition of influential conservative groups recently asked the White House to block some of the key parts of the F.D.A.’s strategy to prevent youths from vaping; and Republican Senator Richard Burr blasted the commissioner on the Senate floor for his proposal to ban menthol cigarettes."


[05-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
banning menthol cigarettes was, admittedly, a dumb idea


[05-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: the percentage of teen smoking and drinking is inversely proportional to how involved parents are in their childrens' lives


[05-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
not in terms of helicopter parenting, but in terms of interacting with and engaging their children


[05-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
iceland went from one of the worst countries in the eurosphere in terms of teenage smoking, alcohol use, and other drug use to one of the best by simply getting everyone more involved in collectively caring for children instead of expecting parents to only look after their own kids


[05-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
on top of spending money \*GASP\* on a robust afterschool program for kids and passing laws to legalize a curfew for children (I think it was 8pm for 12 and younger and 10pm for 13-16 year olds)


[05-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
it turns out that literally putting a curfew in the law makes kids much more likely to follow them


[05-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
since any person can see a kid out after curfew and haul them into the nearest police station to be picked up by their parents


[05-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
it turns out collectivism can actually do some good when applied properly


[05-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
perhaps the greatest sin of capitalism is it's atomization of individuals away from community


[06-Mar-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WseyrYuD8ao

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Art House Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WseyrYuD8ao
The Nature of Capitalism - Michael Parenti & Art House Politics
Art House Lecture Restoration Series: The Nature of Capitalism by Michael Parenti.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WseyrYuD8ao/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like the people who are most negatively impacted by capitalism are the ones who are most resistant to the idea that capitalism is negatively impacting them


[06-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/nofaith313/status/1103057984949755905

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Michael 'Turtles All the Way Down' Drew (@nofaith313)
https://twitter.com/nofaith313/status/1103057984949755905
@over_anelyze @TheMainSpark @angerylucy @bmajoras @davidwebbshow @AOC @GOP @RepAOC I always find it amazing the nuance people find in white people's words that they never see when POC speak.
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[06-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
>I always find it amazing the nuance people find in white people's words that they never see when POC speak.


[06-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
People love to deny that there's a reason for their suffering.


[06-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other than the acceptable targets.


[06-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, vaccines caused their autism, pedos are why kids are so messed up, they can't get a job because they're lazy, and the chinese are what destroyed the neighborhood


[06-Mar-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can't possibly be that autism is just from genetic disorders from having kids late, and being in a tech-focused society. It can't be that kids are messed up because your parenting is bad. It can't be that you can't get a job because the system is broken, and it can't POSSIBLY be that capitalism ruined your area's businesses.


[06-Mar-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems legit

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[06-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, it's clearly Lenin.


[06-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Senor Trotsky of the Mexican Soviet Republic is the best althist HoI4 IMO


[06-Mar-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/05/700551337/north-korea-seen-reassembling-rocket-test-site

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North Korea Seen Reassembling Rocket Test Site
Just days after the U.S.-North Korea summit ended in stalemate, satellite images show workers have been active at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station, a partially disassembled missile test facility.
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[06-Mar-19 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
Santa Anita track suspends races at least through weekend after 21 horse deaths  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/another-horse-dies-santa-anita-racetrack-21st-fatality-10-weeks-n979701

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Santa Anita track suspends races indefinitely after 21 horses died...
Track officials said the suspension will give a new consultant they have brought in time to inspect the racing surface.
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[06-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that doesn't seen right at all


[06-Mar-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Wot


[06-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yet again, story about Alexandria


[06-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Washington Examiner says AOC, others say her name.


[06-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why propaganda is really, really sneaky.


[06-Mar-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/5uRG4RB_Nvo

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The Nonsense Politics of PragerU
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[06-Mar-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://youtu.be/kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmcpiM3SSOA/hqdefault.jpg


[06-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/nY2olR8

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The ole switcheroo
https://i.imgur.com/Rf5Szamh.jpg


[06-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr, guy accidentally started working with a client under his (female) co-worker's avatar/name and the customer he was talking to was incredibly rude and dismissive of everthing he said until he said he was switching over to a male "supervisor"


[06-Mar-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
at which time the customer became incredibly polite, understanding, etc despite not changing literally anything about what he was saying or doing


[06-Mar-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
and then there's a bunch of comments pointing out how changing foreign names (like chanh) to something english like sean seems to vastly increase work productivity as well


[06-Mar-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
"Had a coworker who was getting crappy surveys. Changed his name in the system from Mohammad to Jake. Instant improvement. Sad."


[06-Mar-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
"I will say that as a Jake who did phone sales, the bible belt has certainly got a problem with anyone named Jacob..."


[06-Mar-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
"At one point a lady asked my name, I said Jake and she tore into me for 20 minutes about how I'm a sinner because of Jacob in the bible"

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[06-Mar-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get it


[06-Mar-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
I thought jacob was a good guy in the bible


[06-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Rot#0061
Well, he did die at 17.


[06-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Rot#0061
Pussy.


[06-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, religious nuts will basically tear into anyone with a religious name.


[06-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Rot#0061
^


[06-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll go off some minor thing someone did


[06-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if that someone was later declared a saint.


[06-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Rot#0061
What's good and bad in the bible is all personal preference.


[06-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other than Jesus himself, but if you are named Jesus they'll hate anyways cause they'll think you're unworthy of the name.


[06-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Rot#0061
Everything religion related, even those in the same one is catered to one's own world view.


[06-Mar-19 07:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
Rhose, hai!


[06-Mar-19 07:48 AM] Rot#0061
Woah!


[06-Mar-19 07:48 AM] Rot#0061
It's that cool guy!


[06-Mar-19 07:48 AM] Deleted User#0000
I'm not cool, or a guy. ;W;


[06-Mar-19 08:01 AM] Rot#0061
I was just having a discussion about gender stuff in relation to the kind of jobs they get with some mates. Non of us are really feminists but, we pretty much came to the conclusion that, gender wise, it actually is a social construct. Most females are raised with the idea that they're not held accountable for things they do unless it's a really big decision, especially in well off first world societies. It can lead to the idea of having jobs where every small choice matters can be off putting. Males raised like this tend to gravitate towards the same jobs as those labeled for women too. It's not a "bad". Again, it's a status thing. 

Where as in countries where people can't afford to be picky. Like being raised on a farm where you need to show more intuition and carry your weight. Women tend to take on the same jobs as men do. In a modern society where both genders need to pull their weight though it's a bit of a hindrance. Gotta tell all your kids, no matter the gender, to man the fuck up when they come of age.


[06-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Rot#0061
All mostly theory though. None of us are philosophers or socialists. We just talk shit and let the mind wander while we paint together.


[06-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
There *are* average differences in preferences that aren't social (found in newborns), but they aren't exactly the same as what society thinks.


[06-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, boys go towards more mechanical toys.


[06-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Girls go for everything.


[06-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, as kids grow up, girls reject boy toys, which is believed to be due to social pressures.


[06-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boys meanwhile retain the same preferences from birth.


[06-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Rot#0061
virgin menchanical toys and dolls. Chad DINOSAURS.


[06-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, society kills any desire women hav for technical stuff at age 5


[06-Mar-19 08:08 AM] Deleted User#0000
eeee


[06-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Rot#0061
But yeah, there are some differences between genders. I won't doubt that. But again these jobs are mostly separated between people that can handle accountability/responsibility/working under pressure, and people that can't. A shame racial and gender biases can get in the way of that.


[06-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Rot#0061
I've never dealt with it personally though.


[06-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
That's not great but it'd be less bad if society hadn't also stopped appreciating humanities


[06-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Rot#0061
Well, kind of on the race thing but for the better.


[06-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Rot#0061
I'm half white and grew up in a third world shithole.


[06-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Rot#0061
So people automatically assume I'm smarter than I am. And that my word carries some sort of weight.


[06-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Deleted User#0000
I didn't mean to be rude or snow flakey, I'm really sorry. ;~;


[06-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Rot#0061
Nahh, you're good, mate.


[06-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Rot#0061
burgerland is comfy though. I'd rather people think little of me than too much.


[06-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Rot#0061
Not that anyone's done it. Burgers are way more polite.


[06-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Rot#0061
No one's tried to hit me with a car or anything. And people open the door for each other.


[06-Mar-19 08:17 AM] Deleted User#0000
Aww.


[06-Mar-19 08:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Society hasn't stopped appreciating the humanities


[06-Mar-19 08:24 AM] byte[]#2610
You don't hear people wax poetic about shakespeare, no, but our creative output and the appetite for film and media we have is plenty


[06-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shakespeare is appreciated far more today than when it was new, from what I've read.


[06-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Far, far, far more.


[06-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it was Justin Bieber at the time.


[06-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], in the university of washington system at least, humanities enrollment is down 50% while STEM is up 50%


[06-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shakespeare made up words, changed the spelling a bit, was derided as being crude, and was more popular in America than bakk home, because his plays would be used as pieces to fill intermissions of other plays.


[06-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also most of his plays are historical fiction that's really tripe


[06-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's his more original works that are praised.


[06-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
the humanities classes and the freshman enrollment classes subsidize the more expensive to teach advanced STEM classes


[06-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
History departments are closing is some schools


[06-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
because humanities costs less to teach despite costing the same in terms of units


[06-Mar-19 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
That's not a statement about social appreciation of humanities


[06-Mar-19 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Which hasn't changed


[06-Mar-19 08:28 AM] byte[]#2610
The reason is obviously that humanities courses don't help you get high paying jobs


[06-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
you listen to any conservative talking point, it's literally "don't take 'useless' majors which you can't make money off of"


[06-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
because somehow your entire life worth can be summed up in how big your paycheck is


[06-Mar-19 08:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Crow


[06-Mar-19 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not about your life worth


[06-Mar-19 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's about your debt


[06-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Your value as a human is your productive ability is a shit measurement of a human


[06-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, starting STEM classes are often skipped now due to AP classes counting as units, despite proof that taking AP classes in high school don't make you graduate faster and actually tends to have the opposite effect on average


[06-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
And a.lot.of people's wealth far outstrips their productive ability


[06-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
those also subsidize the system


[06-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
also, needing to go into massive debt to get a degree is the real problem, not the fact that humanities degrees don't tend to get you into very many high-paying jobs


[06-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
The people with worthless degrees aren't history or philosophy it's people with automotive management degrees


[06-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
dafuq is "automotive management" lol


[06-Mar-19 08:32 AM] byte[]#2610
It's going to crush us under our own weight


[06-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
But guess which is more employable


[06-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a specialized business management


[06-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow you get to be the dealer swindling people out of their money by overpaying for vehicles.


[06-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you lose your job because Tesla destroys the shitty market.


[06-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And nobody cares that you kill yourself because you're scum.


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Tesla would employ them


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tesla's closing its physical stores


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Online sales only.


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Neat


[06-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how they're finally hitting the promised $35,000


[06-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Now that they lost the subsidy


[06-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
And a bunch of states kept them out


[06-Mar-19 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/liamwhite/69b935e504d45a853465b0e540b19274/raw/c61a74d913c5088dc21a9a3537d5f09491dd6238/gistfile1.txt


[06-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I wonder how they'll handle maintenance and warranty


[06-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't use the physical stores for maintenance or warranty.


[06-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were just buildings showcasing the cars and storing them a bit.


[06-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the subsidy has a limit by volume of sales per retailer, they didn't "lose" it, they "used it up"


[06-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
AFAIK they're the first company to do so.


[06-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Nm I thought Trump had ended the subsidy


[06-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
He wants to just hasn't yet


[06-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the first 200,000 vehicles, then a phaseout.


[06-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've hit phaseout.


[06-Mar-19 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
That's a lot of EVs


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Either way cars break down and most mechanics aren't familiar with Tesla's so I wonder how they to maintenance


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's a symbol of success that the subsidy is going away.


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav their own trained people do maintenance


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a lifetime warranty IIRC


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is per-car, not per-purchase


[06-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning you can buy used and hav Tesla repair it.


[06-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most mainentance is "replace the batteries", as well


[06-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are far fewer mechanical problems with EVs, especially Teslas


[06-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious how all the states who refused to let tesla open physical stores in them to sell cars from all did it in the name of "competition"


[06-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
the hypocrisy is overwhelming


[06-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
they pay lip service to the wonders of the "free market", but as soon as the market is threatened by an upstart, they go into full lockdown


[06-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Honahue#0656
ASE does have an electric/hybrid cert


[06-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then it bakkfires cause it's not an actual way to stop the upstart


[06-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dealerships will still die.


[06-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Tesla's still have shocks and springs and bushings even if the engines are more reliable that shit goes bad too


[06-Mar-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not about the free market


[06-Mar-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
It's about trying to make sure that dealerships follow the rules


[06-Mar-19 08:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure you know plenty of legends about used car salesmen


[06-Mar-19 08:45 AM] byte[]#2610
That's why


[06-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
"the rules" being rampant corruption and shitty business practices lol


[06-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
They are following the rules though,


[06-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Tesla was kept out of states because some have laws saying manufacturers can't sell direct to customers


[06-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Which was Tesla's model


[06-Mar-19 08:46 AM] byte[]#2610
That's the problematic one


[06-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
I think 5 out of the 7 states started passing those laws AFTER tesla started selling directly to customers


[06-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Mine had it before


[06-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
since there was no need to regulate it before tesla came along because everyone did it the "traditional" way


[06-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Of course the big three are in my state so that's understandable


[06-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that there's probably a lot of deliberate obfuscation in making third party dealerships the ones who sell to customers instead of car companies selling directly


[06-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
make it harder to track down who to blame when things go wrong


[06-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure there was a reason to regulate it before Tesla, a shitty reason though


[06-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a way for the big three to make money


[06-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
They sell dealer certification that the mechanics and salesman need to have to say they're a certified gm dealer


[06-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
But don't have to pay the staff


[06-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Probably gets around unions too


[06-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also certify mechanics


[06-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and try to make sure non-certified mechanics can't work on their vehicles without breaking things


[06-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that the certified ones can charge out the ass and pay some of it to them


[06-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
It's more annoying in heavy equipment because back in the 90's every car manufacturer had to standardize to OBD2 but in heavy industry there is no standard


[06-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
So everyone has their own computer plug in


[06-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Want to get codes better have the CAT or JCB scan tool


[06-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Snap On and a few others made a universal scan tool, it's 15k


[06-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
And you need a pile of adapters


[06-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/l0jbRq8

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Time for dancing
https://i.imgur.com/VbtKa4eh.jpg


[06-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
"This only seems odd to some cultures, but particularly Americans. Your labor being associated with self worth is not as connected elsewhere"


[06-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a habit I've been trying to break out of, asking people what they do


[06-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-right-about-corruption-congress-ncna975906

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Opinion | AOC is right: Congress is (still) getting rich at your e...
Washington remains mired in a bipartisan money swamp.
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[06-Mar-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woooow https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/06/gop-lawmakers-wore-pearls-while-gun-violence-victims-testified-activists-were-outraged/


[06-Mar-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wore the most conspicuous thing possible to do a visual pun implying that it's wrong to hav compassion for others.


[06-Mar-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
In way that was sexist, too.


[06-Mar-19 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they took a silenct pearl wearign stance that gun violence is common place now and we should just accept that and not care?


[06-Mar-19 04:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1103057225910755329

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(Crooked) Hillary Clinton confirms she will not run in 2020, rules out a third bid for White House.” Aw-shucks, does that mean I won’t get to run against her again? She will be sorely missed!
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[06-Mar-19 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kingcrispr/status/1103188294035296256?s=21

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Thank you for moving the embassy to Jerusalem Glormf
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[06-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Deleted User#0000
xD


[06-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Way too early https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/06/rashida-tlaib-says-she-will-introduce-impeachment-resolution-this-month.html

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Democratic congresswoman who vowed to impeach Trump says she will ...
"Later on this month, I will be joining folks and advocates across the country to file the impeachment resolution to start the impeachment proceedings," Rep. Rashida Tlaib says.
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[06-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/paypal-has-politically-weaponized-the-financial-system-by-aligning-with-hard-left

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Consumers Beware: PayPal has weaponized financial system with its ...
It doesn’t take a legal scholar to be concerned about the message imparted by PayPal’s CEO, Dan Schulman, in a recent Wall Street Journal interview by Peter Rudegeair. In the article titled “PayPal CEO Grapples with Fringe Groups,” Dan Schulman explains who gets boote...
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/09/paypal-internal.jpg


[06-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
qq some more


[06-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
>"social justice mode"


[06-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
>cuts off antifa access


[06-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could hav a straight face telling you that a donkey's a horse.


[06-Mar-19 07:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[06-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Tony Perkins is president of the Family Research Council and is an ordained Southern Baptist pastor.'


[06-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, he's mad he can't say bad things about blakk people because the SPLC is destroying hate groups financially


[06-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
muh SPLC is a hate group


[06-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I'm just remembering people who dislike Jews and criticize them all the time but the second Tlaib and Omar do it they're suddenly super on board with anything Israel does


[06-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The article says PayPal has also cut off “far-left groups in Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Sacramento that identify as antifa, or anti-fascist.” However, none of these left-wing groups are identified by the PayPal CEO."


[06-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Antifa is basically a boogeyman that does nothing more than knock over trash cans and break windows sometimes.


[06-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Soccer hooligans are worse.


[06-Mar-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
PayPal basically doesn't want to be known to finance violence


[06-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/06/politics/michael-cohen-testimony-congress/index.html

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Michael Cohen on Wednesday provided the House Intelligence Committee with new documents showing edits to the false written statement he delivered to Congress in 2017 about the Trump Organization's pursuit of the Trump Tower Moscow project into the 2016 campaign season, accord...
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[06-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So BuzzFeed was technically incorrect


[06-Mar-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump didn't directly tell Cohen to lie, but Trump's other attorneys created document that lied and Trump wanted that and implied he wanted Cohen to lie


[06-Mar-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Cohen was a fallguy.


[06-Mar-19 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is this 4d political chess


[06-Mar-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/432884-house-judiciary-dem-impeachment-shouldnt-be-a-fetish-nor-a-taboo

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House Judiciary Dem: Impeachment shouldn't be a 'fetish' or a 'taboo'
A Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee said Wednesday that impeachment shouldn’t be an obsession or a “taboo” as the party ramps up investigations into President Trump and his administration.
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[06-Mar-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't kinkshame


[06-Mar-19 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Impeach me daddy :NUT:


[06-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Trump didn't tell Cohen to lie, his attorneys and him just implicitly created a fraudulent testimony that they got Cohen to read.


[06-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay.


[06-Mar-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Mar-19 10:11 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/top-trudeau-aide-grilled-political-crisis-deepens-160829314.html

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[06-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau potentially gonna get a vote of no confidence for something Trump has done like ten times.


[06-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's your take on the Cohen documents thing today


[06-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Both leaders should be removed from office tbh


[06-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump broke the law


[06-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are making the kinds of excuses that if you made for someone arranging to meet a prostitute, they'd call for you to be lynched, explicitly, on live TV


[06-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump didn't tell Cohen to directly lie.


[06-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He only got his attorneys to prepare statements that they knew were lies for him to read in front of Congress.


[06-Mar-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no he ordered his lawyers tot ell cohen to lie


[06-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guys I didn't call that prostitute to arrange sex, I just had unfinished business with her


[06-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Trudeau was like "veterans ask too much" while letting isis terrorists in Canada


[06-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
He's fucking retarded


[06-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't know it was sex, she advertised an "escort" service, I wanted her to escort me to a hotel room


[06-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
How could I hav possibly known something was up when she said she needed to be paid in cash?


[06-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
I simply implied that I might pay for certain services, that isn't buying


[06-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
What does it matter she was 10? Plenty of young girls dress like that on Halloween


[06-Mar-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She wasnt a prostitute, she was a porn star. She told me there woudl be cameras!


[06-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it was a little odd when R Kelly peed on her, but could I really hav stopped her?


[06-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I was just the cameraman


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we were filming R.Kelly: golden showers 3


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't tell me you've never recorded something a little bit off before


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey, that email means nothing, by "services", she clearly meant plumbing repair.


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
R Kelly had leaky pipes.


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so Trump didn't directly tell Cohen to lie (he did so implicitly) but his attorneys drafted up documents containing falsehoods likely at his direction.


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He told Cohen to lie.


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How is this not as bad as directly telling Cohen to lie?


[06-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no weaseling out of it.


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he told cohen to lie he just did it through his attorneys


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
My point is the excuses are essentially semantic bullshit to cover up illegal activity


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Trump had met a prostitute and used these excuses, and wasn't the president, he'd be facing 10 years in jail right now.


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Presidential immunity to basic prosecution is being used a shield


[06-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
then Republicans say that because he's not being thrown in jail, he's done nothing wrong.


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I didnt fuck that prostitute, I told my attorney to fuck that prostitute for me"


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic "I'm the police and I won't arrest that guy, so how can you say stabbing homeless people is wrong?"


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Presidential immunity is a really dumb concept


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be limited, not absolute


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really fucking is


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be Pence should take over


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Trump is in court


[06-Mar-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who created it?


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The founders when they thought congress could deal with this shit


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
after they gave enforcement of the laws over to the president


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh but how can the president conduct the country if we put him in DC jail"


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They severely underestimated corruption potential


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
don't elect a fucking president that could end up in a DC jail


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt this why we have a vice?


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but the founders at the time thought of the vice as a takeover only if the president died


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if the president becomes unable to preform his job we have a back up


[06-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the time, anesthesia wasn't used


[06-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also didnt foresee corporations as a thing


[06-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't foresee strong political parties


[06-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[06-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor the South becoming a huge political force for evil


[06-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was a lot of shit they didnt predict


[06-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they looked and saw the future they'd recoil in horror and write tons more into the bill of rights.


[06-Mar-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like several different failsafes


[06-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd probably completely rewrite the 2nd amendment, too


[06-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_DC v. Heller_ was wrongly decided.


[06-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it was supposed to keep the states armed in case of tyranny


[06-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
not the people armed in case of jihad


[06-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when the states DID rebel


[06-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was to destroy the very freedoms that the country was founded on


[06-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcI5ZeJKECs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcI5ZeJKECs
Conservative States Now VASTLY Outnumber Liberal States
Conservative States Now VASTLY Outnumber Liberal States. According to new data from Gallup the number of states where liberals and the far left outnumber con...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bcI5ZeJKECs/hqdefault.jpg


[06-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
>everyone moves to California to get out of the shit south


[06-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
>south now only has dumb hikks


[06-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
>claim that this means the South should dominate politically


[06-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
did you actually watch the vid that quickly?


[06-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, commenting on overall Republican strategy.


[06-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
besides he's reading from pew research results.


[06-Mar-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/qMgMr0JcYJ4

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[06-Mar-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Implying all the empty states being conservative and forgetting Texas's shift to purple matters


[07-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maher was absolutely right about rural America.


[07-Mar-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder we're a republic for the people by the people and not the land area.


[07-Mar-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking what specifically?


[07-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The coastal states got invited to a party of relevance and contribution to society and middle America's invitation got stuck in the mail


[07-Mar-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically "they hate us [coastals] because they ain't us"


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The coastals and capitals got boosted by neoliberalism


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
massive companies with no limits


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
no reason to operate in all those shitholes


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Run every person who doesn't conform to a hivemind out of your rural town


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
churn thru workers like they're just another resource


[07-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>"Why do they all congregate in cities?!"


[07-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need some demand-side economics to fix this shit


[07-Mar-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's likely because i grew up in new jersey and not north carolina but everyone in my class acts like a rural hick stereotype. well most anyway


[07-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge0I71gvJBY

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[07-Mar-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I sure hope so


[07-Mar-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish thme luck


[07-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Land votes.


[07-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Litrojia#0612
"Very close" is an exaggeration


[07-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You will never in a million years get a red state on this.


[07-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Litrojia#0612
Several more states would be needed, and the initiative is making slow progress


[07-Mar-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with the end results is they'd need to swing several states to blue to make this work


[07-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I'm not a fan of the electoral college but i'm not a fan of a pure popular vote either.


[07-Mar-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's possible but unlikely


[07-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's zero excuse for anything other than pure popular vote


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's too easy for a mob rule to happen


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So actual fucking democracy


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depewnds on if the votes are evenly spread or vcongragated to as few states as possible


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
mob rule is no more free than a authoritarian rule


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The EC was created by the super elite who feared a "demogauge" (read: someone not from the elite)


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, that vague and ill-defined "Mob Rule"


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
What we hav now is essentially wealthocracy


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
90% of politicans are rich


[07-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(becaus campaigning takes tons of money, working class can't do it)


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mob Rule" and minority rights


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legislation passed is based primarily on support by the wealthiest 10% of americans


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not minority rule and mob rights


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you do not want to be in a mob rulled soceity


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regular, middle class American's support has no effect on the passage of legislation


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we are under mob rule


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they are not pleasent


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the mob is just the rich


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to live in a society of one person, one vote, and nothing else matters.


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the educated or the smart


[07-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the rich


[07-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And while they are often more educated


[07-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our current actualy leader is hardly educated at all


[07-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
dumber than most Americans


[07-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the rich want a convenient idiot in charge who will get them more money


[07-Mar-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rich get less educated with eachn generation


[07-Mar-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes the trumps are the current msot useful idiots


[07-Mar-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Isn't plutocracy the name for "wealthocracy"


[07-Mar-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will likely attmept to get trump jr on board as a candidate once his father is either out of office or dead


[07-Mar-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given his apparent lack of "Good self judgement"


[07-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes byte that is what the proper term is


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I also fail to see how eliminating the EC will lead to mob rule


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
if you want to stop mob rule, you need to crush facebook and twitter and every single form of social media


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
that's how we get modern-day lynchings and character assasination


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eliminating the EC just means WHERE you liv matters less


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EC doesn't save us from mob rule


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends largely on how popular vote is utilized or garnered


[07-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't make things less chosen by the popular vote


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
the EC just concentrates the effect of voting in particular states


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
having people's lives ruined because they said some dumb shit on twitter seven years ago? that's mob rule


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
incredibly unevenly


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
having presidential votes count equally from all states? that's not


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the metoo movement is also technically mob rule as well


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with the EC is it causes huge uncertainty in who gets elected


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes things "chaotic"


[07-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
sensitive to a few initial conditions


[07-Mar-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any angry mob can intiate mob rule


[07-Mar-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need news medias that dont run on contextless anger inducing headlines, we need social media reform or no social media at all, we need to end the court of public opinion


[07-Mar-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
contextless headlines also influence the court of public opinion especially when it's a quote taken out of context


[07-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yellow Journalism


[07-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Journalism needs to be publicly funded, basically.


[07-Mar-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
AT&T and verizon should not be allowed to own news stations


[07-Mar-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless it;s liek a tech blog or some shit and even then


[07-Mar-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Indictments probable this Friday


[07-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/432847-washington-house-passes-bill-banning-personal-philosophical-vaccine

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The Washington state House on Tuesday passed a bill eliminating personal or philosophical exemptions for the vaccine against measles for school-aged children.
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[07-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get rekt infanticide supporters.


[07-Mar-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
> 57-40 vote


[07-Mar-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes


[07-Mar-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it should be a 97:0


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
If education is free, you get more educated voters


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Then you can totally justify deleting the EC


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/432871-trump-nixes-public-report-on-drone-strike-deaths

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Trump nixes public report on drone-strike deaths
President Trump on Wednesday ended an Obama-era requirement that the U.S. government publish an annual report on the number of people killed in drone strikes or other counterterrorism operations outside of war zones.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_bundlers_021119getty.jpg


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the EC doesn't restrict things to more educated voters


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
But right wingers would get less voters that way


[07-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has no effect on the level of education in who chooses the president


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
The justification for it often seen, is because voters are apparently dumb and can't decide shit for themselves


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It simply shifts whose votes matter from one set of voters to another with the only regard being where they liv


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the EC DOESN'T DO THAT


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ONLY thing the EC does is do winner-take-all by state


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
At least the common brainlet justification usually from poorly educated losers


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means votes only matter in states that are near the tipping point


[07-Mar-19 01:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
The irony


[07-Mar-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't want any transparency


[07-Mar-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Revealing that he relied on drones would make him look weak...or something.


[07-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/democrats-net-neutrality-bill-would-fully-restore-obama-era-fcc-rules/

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Democrats’ net neutrality bill would fully restore Obama-era FCC...
Democrats' bill has good chance in House but faces tough odds in Senate.
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[07-Mar-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans who earlier today were screeching about PayPal don't get that without NN, an ISP could throttle sites they disagree with.


[07-Mar-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I almost beat Nebbie to the line


[07-Mar-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine if ISPs started throttling breitbart or disallowing access


[07-Mar-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would say NN isn't the answer


[07-Mar-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and demand mob justice against Comcast


[07-Mar-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
While taking bribes from Comcast to not regulate it


[07-Mar-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why their party will ultimately fail.


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cohen-shows-house-panel-edits-trump-lawyers-made-to-his-false-statement-to-congress-report

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Last week, Cohen alleged Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow made changes to his testimony before Congress.
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[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Out of curiosity, what's the libertarian stance on Republican-style deregulation


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought Giuliani knew to shut up now.


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What if the child consents?"


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Giuliani has worse impulse control than a kid with a marshmallow in front of him


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians are pretty much just Republican shills that don't like how Republicans don't completely destroy gov't agencies and leave the UN


[07-Mar-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the joke with libertarians, everything turns into an age of consent argument


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And remove the judiciary as a thing


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if the environment is consenting by not saying no to our pollution?


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would enter into contract without a judiciary enforcing things.


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pfft who needs contracts


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if you consent to an illegal contract?


[07-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if contracts can be made non-verbally, by just doing something and having a mutual understand?


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need judges for this, guys, just let the community decide it.


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if measles consents?


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is Sekulow's name "seck you low" or "seck you lao?"


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former.


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the honor code system


[07-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if the child consents to getting measles?, rather.


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just put a quarter in the consent-o-meter and there'll be no need for all that hassle


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh my God


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-calls-apple-ceo-tim-cook-tim-apple

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Trump Calls Apple CEO Tim Cook ‘Tim Apple’
The president also thought the last name of Lockheed Martin's CEO was “Lockheed.”
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[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The honor killing system.


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oof


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess he thinks everyone names the company after themselves


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bill microsoft sure is a great guy


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it dementia or arrogance


[07-Mar-19 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Willfull dementia.


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if my memory consents to forgetting?


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For a man who had a reality TV show, Trump has not lived a single day in reality


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My family members sometimes ask "How does everything that goes on now manage to just continue to go on"


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his reality tv show wasnt even realistic


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they had to edit him into coherency


[07-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if reality consents to changing?


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BUT THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then we can't allow the future in the military


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
obviously


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what if the military consents to trans people, tho?


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what if your wallet consented to my hands in it?


[07-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is legit why libertarians get mad at Republicans


[07-Mar-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Republicans like to impose random restrictions that make no sense whereas Libertarians want their bakkwards social asshattery enforced by mob rule.


[07-Mar-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet both somehow manage to tear down institutions and replace them with nothing


[07-Mar-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to be able to discriminate against genders in the military on a per-officer basis


[07-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
not hav this approved list of what they can discriminate on


[07-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's gov't overreach to tell the military what it can and can't do!


[07-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov' overreeeeeeach


[07-Mar-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.povonews.com/world/africa/zimbabwe/minister-ellen-gwaradzimba-orders-eviction-of-zim-white-farmer-gifts-top-exporter-farfell-estates-to-son/

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Zim Minister orders eviction of white farmer & gifts top exporter ...
Zimbabwe's Minister for Manicaland, Ellen Gwaradzimba ordered the eviction of a white farmer from Farfell Estates & gave the farm to her son.
https://www.povonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/DnhdjW8X0AAWlGn.png


[07-Mar-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed what came out of today was that Cohen was a fallguy


[07-Mar-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was kind of super obvious though


[07-Mar-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't tell _Cohen_ to lie.


[07-Mar-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he did, through his attorneys


[07-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He told _Sekulow_ to edit things so Cohen would end up lying


[07-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cohen has always been a fallguy, Its


[07-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
every single person is a fallguy


[07-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's how it's done


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I can't imagine this was a master plan of any sort considering Trump currently needs two lawyers in every meeting just to keep his own story straight with his legal team


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is the moment they find out what you did, you throw someone to them and set them on fire


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt have colleagues he has fall people to shove under whatever on coming bus enters the picture


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the resulting chaos and smoke obscures what you're doing *now*


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Loyalty to Trump means nothing


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and makes it harder for them to get to you.


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even if you commit a crime


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Trump master plan


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Burn everyone and let the flames and smoke keep yourself ahead.


[07-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under this, you can get away with anything


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as you hav people to burn


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out how Pence has gotten himself into the eye of this machiavellian hurricane


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by not doing anything controversial


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence likely just didn't listen to shit


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
on purpose


[07-Mar-19 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, I know he *looks* like he does nothing but sit in the dark and eat saltines all day but there's no way he's this squeaky clean


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt, he;s just better at hiding shitt han trump is


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention that I have no idea what he's actually accomplished as VP


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump pretty much airs everything on twitter


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I am not entirely convinced that he's human.


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence's strategy is to ride the coattails.


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he might be a cyborg.


[07-Mar-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A cyborg with a history of destruction


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pence hasnt talked to press much, made any sudden moves, or tried to collude with anyone outside of whoever trump has colluded with


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conspire


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The crime is conspiracy to commit ___


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s biding his time waiting for trump to fuck up in just the wrong way


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Collusion is what conservatives say so they can then catch you saying it and go "collusion isn't a crime"


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The last time I can say for certain that I saw Pence acting on his own as a political figure was when he sat like a wooden puppet at the Olympics


[07-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the actual crime is called conspiracy.


[07-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And conspiracy sounds way shadier.


[07-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
As it should.


[07-Mar-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hehasnt conspired with anyone outside of trump's conspiracy circle


[07-Mar-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that we know of at least


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Pence will make damned sure no one sees him as dangerous until he has power


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He likely just was playing games on his phone during meetings with people talking about committing crimes


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
to be deliberately ignorant


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This btw isn't a good defense in court.


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he probably doesnt want to get dragged down with trump


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You still get charged with conspiracy cause you KNEW about the overall thing and knew these crimes could be committed.


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And did nothing.


[07-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a guy who would refuse to be around women alone


[07-Mar-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I tried to go back and look at the pictures from the night of the election to see if I could glean anything from his facial expressions - you know, like how Trump didn't look exactly thrilled to have won - but in every picture ever, Pence just looks like he's trying to read an eye chart


[07-Mar-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, what if you're coerced into staying silent


[07-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you need a good lawyer and to get out before you become VP from things.


[07-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/432879-dems-wont-let-fox-news-host-primary-debate

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Dems won't let Fox News host primary debate
The Democratic National Committee (DNC) said Wednesday it would not permit Fox News to host a presidential primary debate, citing an explosive story this week alleging deep ties between the conservative network and President Trump’s inner circle
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/foxnews_110218gn_lead.jpg


[07-Mar-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the comments are calling out the DNC for having CNN and MSNBC host debates last election cycle when those networks came out in support of hillary


[07-Mar-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
BSABSVR


[07-Mar-19 02:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fairness there's a difference between supporting someone and telling them what to think


[07-Mar-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should just give the debates to c-span


[07-Mar-19 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I speak, of course, of the presidential candidate (or president) but that goes in general too


[07-Mar-19 02:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and y'know what? I wouldn't mind that *provided* the other networks rebroadcast it


[07-Mar-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let c-span host and the other networks jsut mirror it


[07-Mar-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
c-span is good


[07-Mar-19 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's only good because no one pays enough attention to it for it to be co-opted


[07-Mar-19 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:/


[07-Mar-19 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if c-span covered politics the way NBC covers the olympics...


[07-Mar-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/mcconnell-election-reform-bill-1207702

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McConnell won't allow vote on election reform bill
“What is the problem we’re trying to solve here?” McConnell asked.
https://static.politico.com/6b/25/d4e986dc4ca4b7385d517b51fdc2/190306-mcconnell-gty-773.jpg


[07-Mar-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you, sir are the problem we're trying to solve


[07-Mar-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
'When asked at a press conference why he wasn’t bringing the House electoral reform bill to the Senate floor, McConnell responded, with a grin: "Because I get to decide what we vote on.”'


[07-Mar-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please get hit by a bus going 120 MPH


[07-Mar-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope he does


[07-Mar-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
through the walls of the congressional building


[07-Mar-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while he;s giving a speech


[07-Mar-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair c-spans whole thing is they are a forum/observer they dont make news for ratigns they mainly focus on political offices directly and show whats happening live


[07-Mar-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also take phonecalls from viewers asking opinions on current events


[07-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Please lose next year McConnell


[07-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please lose while being hit by a bus.


[07-Mar-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please jsut be hit by a bus


[07-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
kentucky would never kick him out


[07-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically the capital of racism in the US


[07-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-most-and-least-racial-progress/18428/

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States with the Most Racial Progress
https://d2e70e9yced57e.cloudfront.net/wallethub/posts/57569/2019-states-with-the-most-racial-progress-og-image.png


[07-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
apparently kentucky is considered #4 on how much "racial integration progress" has been made


[07-Mar-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/03/senate-confirms-dangerous-religious-extremist-allison-rushing-as-federal-judge/?fbclid=IwAR17pqZZFDVShEUAwoQ17MW-p25IcLuJtNUi61CyEWiJ6PQN0O0ai0cglPE

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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/03/senate-confirms-dangerous-religious-extremist-allison-rushing-as-federal-judge/?fbclid=IwAR17pqZZFDVShEUAwoQ17MW-p25IcLuJtNUi61CyEWiJ6PQN0O0ai0cglPE
Senate Confirms Dangerous Religious Extremist Allison Rushing As F...
More of that Christian theocracy: Allison Rushing, a dangerous religious extremist and former warrior for an anti-LGBT hate group, has been confirmed to a lifetime appointment as a federal judge.
https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/410/2019/03/AllisonRushing1.png


[07-Mar-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's fucking 37, but let's put her on an appellate court


[07-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Rushing’s article is openly hostile to those she pejoratively labeled “village secularists” who had “eggshell sensitivities” because they were offended by large religious monuments on government land."


[07-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
What that means is people can't maintain housing segregation, Crow


[07-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
not how less racist they are, but how less racist they'll be in 20 years.


[07-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She wants to recriminalize homosexuality and sterilize transgendered people


[07-Mar-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how has she not been disbarred before even reachignt his point?


[07-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federalist Society defense force


[07-Mar-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the what now?


[07-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federalist Society is basically _the_ conservative legal interest group


[07-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberal counterpart is American Constitution Society


[07-Mar-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our system is stupid


[07-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-secularists have tried and largely succeeded for a long time in portraying secularists as screeching idiots


[07-Mar-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"lol look at how dumb these people are, complaining that I'm mixing mint and citrus"


[07-Mar-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol just tip your fedora you euphoric idiot


[07-Mar-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, i'm just gonna laugh at the few homossexuals and LGBT "conservs" who said they voted for Trump by now


[07-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Log Cabin Republicans are dead basically.


[07-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had Milo, but he's a pedo apologist.


[07-Mar-19 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They had Blaire White, but she's slowly showing herself reluctant and regretful


[07-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) To get disbarred takes extreme circumstances


[07-Mar-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
"YOU'RE NOT A BREEEEEEEEEDER"


[07-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically stealing from your client or having sex with them are the quickest ways for that to happen.


[07-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a crime.


[07-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or perpetuating a falsehood on the court intentionally


[07-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/UNdmcsK/comment/1599373181

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What a time
https://i.imgur.com/5nlOGdAh.jpg


[07-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
"Theres a clip where fox criticizes [obama] for talking to the dictator of North Korea, calling him soft, and being in love with dictators. lol


[07-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
"We really need a edited clips of fox news saying these things, but with trump put in place of Obama. That would be entertaining"


[07-Mar-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/giuliani-trump-pardons.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/giuliani-trump-pardons.html
Giuliani Says Lawyers Have Sought Trump Pardons for Their Clients
President Trump’s lawyer said that he has always stated that no pardons are on the table now. He spoke as new details emerged about pardon discussions involving Michael D. Cohen, the president’s former fixer.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/06/us/politics/06dc-pardon/06dc-pardon-facebookJumbo.jpg


[07-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-huawei-tech/long-before-trumps-trade-war-with-china-huaweis-activities-were-secretly-tracked-idUSKCN1QN2A8

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Long before Trump’s trade war with China, Huawei’s activities ...
The surprise arrest of Huawei's chief financial officer in December quickly...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190306&t=2&i=1363456433&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF251O5


[07-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
now trump wants to unilaterally release huawei's CFO in return for a trade deal agreement


[07-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
>U.S. President Donald Trump told Reuters he would consider intervening in her case - a potential action he alluded to again two weeks ago - if it would help close a trade deal with China.


[07-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
not even a favorable deal, just any deal


[07-Mar-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
if china told him that there would be no deal unless she was released, he'd do everything in his power to make sure she was released


[07-Mar-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great he's getting mroe desperate to close a "win"


[07-Mar-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if other countries get word of this they may start offering "deals" to trump in exchange for national security level prisoners


[07-Mar-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that they arent already


[07-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/ilhan-omar-israel-democrats-1206740

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Tensions flare as Dems struggle to calm furor over Omar
Lawmakers clashed behind closed doors, with some complaining that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her leadership team had failed to handle the escalating political crisis.
https://static.politico.com/84/97/89067a3f491bbb8133a46de0720b/190306-ilhan-omar-gtty-773.jpg


[07-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
pelosi's dropping the ball


[07-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
>Freshman Rep. Jahana Hayes of Connecticut stood up and confronted Pelosi directly, arguing that she shouldn’t have to learn about the official Democratic Caucus response from MSNBC. Hayes said she now has to vote on a resolution that she’s barely read, without a private briefing from leadership, according to five sources.


[07-Mar-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[07-Mar-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
representatives have to learn results from msnbc?


[07-Mar-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
" That moment of frustration reflects widespread anxiety in the caucus over how to handle the latest bout of remarks from Omar — one of the first Muslim women to serve in Congress — after she suggested that pro-Israel advocates had “allegiance” to Israel. The remarks offended multiple top Democrats, who said it alluded to painful, decades-old stereotypes that Jews had “dual loyalties.”"


[07-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
"Multiple Jewish lawmakers, including Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) stood up in the caucus meeting to explain why Omar’s latest remarks were so offensive and potentially dangerous. But other Democrats — including a Jewish lawmaker — stood up to defend Omar and say they didn’t see the remarks as deeply offensive."


[07-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like people have forgotten the most important part of this: criticizing a government is not against the law in the US


[07-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
and all of the attempts at making it illegal to criticize any government is against the first amendment in the US


[07-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
She talked ill of people who blindly brown nose Israel


[07-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way politicians can stop that is by saying YOU MUST JUST HATE JEWS THEN


[07-Mar-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-68-a-new-gun-control-debate-dismantling-our-racist-lock-em-up-approach

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Citations Needed Podcast
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-68-a-new-gun-control-debate-dismantling-our-racist-lock-em-up-approach
Episode 68 - A New Gun Control Debate: Dismantling Our Racist 'Loc...
An uptick in mass shootings over the past decade - one that is well documented and indisputable - has provided the cultural and media context for a corollary effort by big city mayors and certain stat
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000499736793-q0yuzi-t500x500.jpg


[07-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-man-allowed-sue-abortion-clinic-behalf-his-unborn-fetus-1354404

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https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-man-allowed-sue-abortion-clinic-behalf-his-unborn-fetus-1354404
Alabama man suing abortion clinic on behalf of his girlfriend's un...
Ryan Magers claims he pleaded with his girlfriend to not have the abortion.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/03/06/alabama-womens-center-reproductive-alternatives.png


[07-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[07-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
some dude is suing an abortion clinic on his supposed fetus' behalf because his girlfriend got an abortion from there after he pleaded with her not to have one


[07-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/03/06/alabama-judge-allows-man-sue-clinic-behalf-aborted-fetus/


[07-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate conclusion of religious nuts and women as babymakers.


[07-Mar-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if he realizes that if this ridiculous case would actually open up the idea that men can demand that a woman have an abortion because half their genes came from them


[07-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
"In one New Jersey case, a mother lost custody of her child when she had a vaginal birth instead of the C-section her doctors insisted was necessary. In others, pregnant women who drank or took drugs — both illegal and prescribed — and then had miscarriages were accused of child abuse. And dozens of states have passed fetal homicide laws that treat the unborn as a separate entity from the woman carrying them."


[07-Mar-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Women don't have rights, obviously


[07-Mar-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Republican wet dream


[07-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be nice if we could end discrimination against women for having children so we can get rid of mandatory child support


[07-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
basically make it so that men don't have to pay for unwanted babies, which would probably convince a lot more women to get abortions


[07-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
with caveats in place so that men can't just back out of taking care of a kid after the abortion period is over


[07-Mar-19 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/06/us/r-kelly-child-support-arrest/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/06/us/r-kelly-child-support-arrest/index.html
R. Kelly going to jail after failing to pay child support
Singer R. Kelly has been taken into custody for failure to pay $161,000 in child support and was jailed Wednesday evening, according to the Cook County Sheriff's Office in Chicago.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190306165419-r-kelly-court-arrival-0306-super-tease.jpg


[07-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
like this shit, having to pay $20.8k a month for child support is pretty ridiculous


[07-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
even if the woman is the one who wants the divorce, she can get more money than most people would see in their entire lives in one year if she's married to a rich man


[07-Mar-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
brendan fraser was paying $900k a year to his ex wife a month for alimony and child support


[07-Mar-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
she was uspet that he wasn't making enough money to support her "lifestyle", so she got divorced


[07-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr don't get married


[07-Mar-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of how the system keeps the blakks down is once they show up in court


[07-Mar-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it finds something else to nail them on


[07-Mar-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being blakk and rich means your fortune will be torn away to your exes if fines and such can't do it alone.


[07-Mar-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of what R Kelly did criminally, paying $20k a month is bonkers


[07-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
>The court ordered Kelly to make a monthly payment of $20,833 on January 8, 2009, but Kelly failed to show up to that hearing, the documents state.


[07-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
>To avoid being held in contempt of court, a judge ordered Kelly to pay $161,663 by Wednesday.


[07-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
is that a typo?


[07-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
2009 seems like a loooong time


[07-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/politics/ilhan-omar-house-democrats-anti-semitism-diversion/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/politics/ilhan-omar-house-democrats-anti-semitism-diversion/index.html
How a public feud over anti-Semitism dealt House Democrats their f...
Democrats have had the majority in the House of Representatives for just two months, but they've already been sidetracked by an ugly divide over anti-Semitism and other bigotry.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190306192019-omar-sanders-0119-super-tease.jpg


[07-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
"Members from both the Congressional Black Caucus and the younger, far-left wing of the party were furious about the leadership's gambit. They questioned singling out Omar for condemnation. What about bigotry from Republicans, including President Donald Trump? And why were Democrats so focused on a woman of color, one of just two Muslims in Congress? Could the added scrutiny even put Omar in danger?"


[07-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
>far-left


[07-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
>is actually righter than previous presidents


[07-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
pick one


[07-Mar-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/02/facebook-global-lobbying-campaign-against-data-privacy-laws-investment

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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/02/facebook-global-lobbying-campaign-against-data-privacy-laws-investment
Revealed: Facebook’s global lobbying against data privacy laws
Social network targeted legislators around the world, promising or threatening to withhold investment
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/509d182ed8947b91a9d6f6a7bfcfc945ed5031b4/0_24_4920_2952/master/4920.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdG8tZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=1c16aa8a1b28ebc743c4c90226807225


[07-Mar-19 05:34 PM] ononim#8141
>person posted about Trudea fuck up


[07-Mar-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
>chat imediatly tuned into Trump Discussion #491345


[07-Mar-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
Ah


[07-Mar-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
Love this


[07-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim 

Did you really count?


[07-Mar-19 05:38 PM] ononim#8141
хар хар


[07-Mar-19 05:38 PM] ononim#8141
ANywya


[07-Mar-19 05:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investigations/Source-Leaked-Documents-Show-the-US-Government-Tracking-Journalists-and-Advocates-Through-a-Secret-Database-506783231.html

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https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investigations/Source-Leaked-Documents-Show-the-US-Government-Tracking-Journalists-and-Advocates-Through-a-Secret-Database-506783231.html
Leaked Documents Show the Government Tracking Journalists
The documents detail an intelligence-gathering effort by the United States and Mexican authorities, targeting more than 50 people including journalists, an attorney, and immigration advocates.
https://media.nbcsandiego.com/images/1200*675/Document+31.jpg


[07-Mar-19 05:38 PM] ononim#8141
Biggest Democracy alright


[07-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
'murica


[07-Mar-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Smells of borscht in that comment section.


[07-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47484397

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https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-47484397
Rape Day game pulled after outcry
Gaming platform Steam pulls the release of the game Rape Day after widespread condemnation.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/E36F/production/_105932285_banned_game-nc.png


[07-Mar-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta ban GTA, guys, it promotes shooting people.


[07-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
'"We respect developers' desire to express themselves, and the purpose of Steam is to help developers find an audience, but this developer has chosen content matter and a way of representing it that makes it very difficult for us to help them do that."'
Horseshit.


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
i mean, it's literally a game about raping


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't respect anything, and this is the same old "glorifies violence" argument.


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't fukking matter


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
it kind of does


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
we hav games all the damn time about being serial killers


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
about shooting people to death


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it suddenly that everything's different when it's rape instead of murder?


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
THE SAME ARGUMENTS APPLY


[07-Mar-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't hav your fukking cake and eat it too.


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either a game promoting you doing actions in the game means it's promoting doing them IRL or not.


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
According to the logic of banning this game, the Hitman series should be banned cause it promotes assassination


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
i think the big thing is if the game was made literally to shock people


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of said game being to assassinate people.


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Art should be controversial.


[07-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
which would be unsurprising


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not the argument Valve made.


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
They quite clearly say their argument is that it's about the way the subject matter is presented.


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
steam should have a vetting process honestly


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
IT DOES


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
there's tons of garbage in it


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
no it doesn't


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
This wasn't garbage


[07-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Steam DOES hav a vetting process


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The "anything goes" mantra from last year was bad.


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
didn't valve literally say they would let people decide for themselves what they can see on steam last year


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any game that looks bad on the platform should be denied simply because of that.


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
as far as I know


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The vetting process is to filter out trolling.


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
they didn't reverse that


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rape is considered worse than murder IMO


[07-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* garbage


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And they don't have to suffer for decades


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because at "least" when you murder someone it's over for them


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Considering rape worse than torturing people to death along with any other form of traumatization is ridiculous


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
nebbie


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
any game can be considered "trolling" tbh


[07-Mar-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
there's no real definition


[07-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being killed by a guy vs being raped by him and knowing he did it


[07-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
This was most certainly not trolling.


[07-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then decades later he becomes a judge/CEO/actor/president


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
well steam needs a more involved vetting process


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it really doesn't.


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're just saying that cause you disapprove of this particular game.


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're ignoring the actual argument for or against it.


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
no I'm not


[07-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
What vetting process steam uses is irrelevant here.


[07-Mar-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's at issue is that we're suddenly in the realm where it's fine and dandy to censor what can be art gamewise.


[07-Mar-19 07:42 PM] Mikey#7286
so a game about rape is "art"?


[07-Mar-19 07:42 PM] Honahue#0656
That's certainly a take on art


[07-Mar-19 07:43 PM] Mikey#7286
where the goal is to rape women?


[07-Mar-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't like to put arbitrary restrictions on art, games should be considered art by default.


[07-Mar-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes


[07-Mar-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, if the goal is to provoke people


[07-Mar-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's *more* artistic in my opinion


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You've heard of Dada, right?


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Mikey#7286
if you say so


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Mikey#7286
no


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Post-WWI art movement


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
One piece was a picture of the mona lisa with a crude mustache drawn on


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
to make a statement


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Honahue#0656
I recited a dada poem at an open mic from Trump's inauguration


[07-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
that the world doesn't deserve the classical form of art, that it deserves shite


[07-Mar-19 07:45 PM] Honahue#0656
That's not even what dada was


[07-Mar-19 07:45 PM] Mikey#7286
art is such a general term, i could take a shit and say it's "art" tbh


[07-Mar-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
no that's not an original statement


[07-Mar-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Mar-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point I'm trying to make here is that we shouldn't go "well that's ____, so it doesn't deserve protection like everything else"


[07-Mar-19 07:46 PM] Honahue#0656
It wasn't about deserving classical art it was about deconstructing the instructions of art


[07-Mar-19 07:46 PM] Mikey#7286
idk, i just think we should have standards on what's considered art


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But those standards change regularly and are contradictory


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Honahue#0656
That's been a philosophical problem forever


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
you could argue a car is art


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in this case, they fundamentally rely on an argument that isn't applied universally


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
or a phone


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
or something


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Honahue#0656
There's no satisfying definition of art


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
They rely on the idea that suddenly it's not okay to show one kind of violence


[07-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Mikey#7286
perhaps not


[07-Mar-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it would inspire that violence to be done


[07-Mar-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
when we allow every other form of violence without concern


[07-Mar-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's up in arms when you tell them shooters make people shoot


[07-Mar-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
i think we can say at least some things are more art than others


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then what would be needed to make this game acceptable as art, Mikey?


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Mikey#7286
idk


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would it need stylized graphics, a great score, a convoluted story?


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would that make it art even as it asks you to rape everyone to death, while saying it's the right thing to do?


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Mikey#7286
not really I suppose


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
If so, would that protect it?


[07-Mar-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds like this isn't about art at all.


[07-Mar-19 07:50 PM] Honahue#0656
None of that makes a game art, if it's going to be about or feature rape as a central theme it needs to say something about rape and what can you say other than it's bad


[07-Mar-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That you don't accept artistic quality as a reason to protect something.


[07-Mar-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds like it's solely about the message of the content.


[07-Mar-19 07:50 PM] Mikey#7286
i guess it's just that it feels like it was made solely to cause a shitstorm


[07-Mar-19 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
What does it say, artistically, about rape?


[07-Mar-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it was, and I don't think that's a good reason to reject something.


[07-Mar-19 07:51 PM] Mikey#7286
i haven't played it or looked into it


[07-Mar-19 07:51 PM] Mikey#7286
so I don't know


[07-Mar-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a shitty VN


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's shitty about it?


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like millions of other shitty anime boob VNs on the service


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's made in some VN game maker


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor graphics, poor dialog, buggy?


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
personally, i think it should have just been left to bury under other games but idk


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Outrage culture, Mikey


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's finally happening.


[07-Mar-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UN tried to do it 3 years too early.


[07-Mar-19 07:53 PM] Honahue#0656
Our culture glorifies violence and you can both make a "just" cause violent game or a deconstruction like Spec Ops: The Line but what can be glorified or deconstructed about rape?


[07-Mar-19 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286
not much really, if at all


[07-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Honahue#0656
It's pure shitposting as a game


[07-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not much to deconstruct about shooting people in the head, but games can glorify it all day long and nobody cares.


[07-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They only care when you make Hatred, a game that isn't as fun about it.


[07-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Honahue#0656
There is though, that's what Spec Ops did


[07-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the UN thing https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/03/03/japanese-response-to-un-proposed-ban-for-media-depicting-sexual-violence-is-cogent-and-sane/#df28d775b3e6

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Japanese Response To UN Proposed Ban For Media Depicting Sexual Vi...
In one of those rare moments where you rekindle your faith in humanity, Kumiko Yamada of the Japanese Women’s Institute Of Contemporary Media Culture has stood up to defend the usage of sexual violence in media with a refreshingly cogent and sane set of arguments.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Folliebarder%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F03%2Fjapan_un_bayonetta-1200x675.jpg


[07-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Honahue#0656
Or Undertale too, though more from the game side then refection of reality side


[07-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So are we to require things deconstruct?


[07-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something has to hav the trope in the first place for that to be possible.


[07-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Honahue#0656
No but that's one way to make art


[07-Mar-19 07:56 PM] Honahue#0656
So what's the rape trope? Are thry playing it straight or deconstructing it?


[07-Mar-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a Japanese thing, and I think they're playing it straight.


[07-Mar-19 07:57 PM] Honahue#0656
Goblin Slayer used rape as a central theme but it did it well


[07-Mar-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And people still raged


[07-Mar-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They saw the tamest rape scene in anime presented as a horror and they raged.


[07-Mar-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
People don't *actually* care that much how it's presented.


[07-Mar-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care whether it's art, or how artistic it is.


[07-Mar-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, people don't want rape portrayed.


[07-Mar-19 07:59 PM] Honahue#0656
People don't want a game to portray a rapist as the MC


[07-Mar-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will rage in an effort to get any content portraying it destroyed.


[07-Mar-19 07:59 PM] Honahue#0656
Goblin Slayer doesn't do that


[07-Mar-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet people still treated it like it was literally Hitler.


[07-Mar-19 08:00 PM] Honahue#0656
It never questions the morality of rape it explores how even someone as powerful as the Sword Maiden could still be tramatized by some of the weakest creatures


[07-Mar-19 08:03 PM] Honahue#0656
She can slay demon Lord's but couldn't work up the nerve to dispatch some sewer goblins


[07-Mar-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I don't think the outrage would be any different if it was the most well-done VN of all time, btw.


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
wha


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
what


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
neb


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
is this


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
a hill you will die on


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
a literal hehe rape the femoids game


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
lord


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the internet, nobody dies and the hills are 3 feet tall.


[07-Mar-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not good that the west is becoming incredibly censorship-happy.


[07-Mar-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Normies will not buy that your shooty death game is any better than your hehe rape rape game.


[07-Mar-19 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
>Normies will not buy that your shooty death game is any better than your hehe rape rape game.


[07-Mar-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as they get an outright ban on the latter, they'll go after the former as the next target, that's fundamentally how it works.


[07-Mar-19 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
citation needed


[07-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talk to some Soccer Moms and Hillary Clinton some time about it, see what they think.


[07-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
demons are mortally challenged


[07-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[07-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Murder Simulators


[07-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Jack Thompson


[07-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, SCOTUS of course wouldn't allow such a ban.


[07-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's only at the actual gov't level


[07-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Valve could partner with EA and a few others at the publisher level and say which content is disallowed, and you can bet they'll go Australia on it and games won't be able to be bloody/gorey.


[07-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Mikey#7286
>Valve


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
>partner with EA


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
HAH


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
no


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
they wouldn't


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You put far too much faith in Valve.


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are a company.


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
they're not even close to the same level as EA


[07-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's irrelevant.


[07-Mar-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Valve doesn't like to fleece consumers as much, but this is about using platform control to establish censorship.


[07-Mar-19 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
GabeN even laughed at the idea of being bought by them


[07-Mar-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true though EA is about as unreliable as a business partner as they come


[07-Mar-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
EA has a lot of blood on their hands lol


[07-Mar-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
literally


[07-Mar-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
EA is the studio shredder for a reason


[07-Mar-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[07-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
activision is shit but i don't think they have a death count under their belt


[07-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
tho that might change soon.....


[07-Mar-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would also probably make the gore/nusidty thing a premium type of deal if they made such rules


[07-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
andrew wilson is the most slimiest of slimeballs in the industry


[07-Mar-19 08:15 PM] Mikey#7286
and in his interviews he pretends to act like he's for the gamer


[07-Mar-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Well, we may have a rule against nudity and gore now, but if you pay us extra we'll look past it *wink*"


[07-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh


[07-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's pretty much what is likely going on with Valve


[07-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Mikey#7286
buy the loot crate and we'll look past it


[07-Mar-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
loot crates, now with added porn


[07-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rape Day wouldn't make Valve enuff money compared to potential boycott losses


[07-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it was expected to gross a ton of money, or bribed Valve outright, it would likely be allowed.


[07-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Mikey#7286
P R I D E  A N D  A C C O M P L I S H M E N T


[07-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause note Valve's stated reasoning


[07-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
unknown costs and risks


[07-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's business talk for "bad ROI"


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is rape day still up or did thye remove it?


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They removed it, it was going to come out in April.


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/HCJCbMVm9x8

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All 0dds 247
https://youtu.be/HCJCbMVm9x8
Is this good for the player
EA is Coming for your time and money they want it all
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[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that seems liek a nuke it from orbit kind of game


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Valve said they'd only remove trolling or illegal stuff


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Devs are now finding Valve lied.


[07-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
As all companies do.


[07-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They removed Active Shooter from Steam in December for similar reasons.


[07-Mar-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was that ther school shooting game?


[07-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[07-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
not all companies lie


[07-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Companies that don't lie, die.


[07-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's how American capitalism works.


[07-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being honest to your business partners hurts you, badly.


[07-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to lie just enuff to trikk them into making bad choices.


[07-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
what about being generous as well?


[07-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care how generous you are.


[07-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it's not helpful.


[07-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
team cherry charged $15 for hollow knight and the game was huge and then they released 3 big DLC packs for free


[07-Mar-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's to consumers


[07-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're incredibly delusional if you think treatment of consumers matters.


[07-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
INCREDIBLY.


[07-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Mikey#7286
to some developers it does


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
particularly indie ones


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only time it matters is when a bigger company you rely on disapproves. (EA and Disney)


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Indies slowly die or get eaten.


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
not all the time


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as you make it big, you can treat consumers like shit in the correct way to make money


[07-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of the incorrect ways that don't.


[07-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
CDPR is generous with their games as well, and they're technically indie


[07-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, 80% of businesses fail in a year


[07-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
For every indie that makes it big, a trukkload die in a fire.


[07-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
CDPR is also poland based, too


[07-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
team cherry is aussie


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
how does that apply to toby fox


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
this shit is most common in the US


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because in the US, success means you get absorbed.


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
he's a one man dev


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
also, yes, censorship is censorship, whether you censor a game about being a school shooter or a game in which you have the ability to ""rape""


[07-Mar-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
in art, any censorship is too much censorship, since if people can censor art they don't like, then art just becomes art*


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
and art* isn't art


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Valve apparently already removes loli stuff


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
that's to be expected


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
it's still dumb, but expected


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's still a problem, censorship in that area is growing fast.


[07-Mar-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
China wants it all gone.


[07-Mar-19 08:31 PM] ononim#8141
>or a game in which you have the ability to ""rape""


[07-Mar-19 08:32 PM] ononim#8141
~~I am pretty sure that's not a game where [or a game in which you have the ability to ""rape""] but the whole point of it is for you legit rape~~


[07-Mar-19 08:32 PM] ononim#8141
~~like it was in description~~


[07-Mar-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
did the still image consent?


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
.c rape


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
There are 6651 images matching the query "rape". (0.37284% out of 1783871 images)


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
.c rape, animated


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
There are 300 images matching the query "rape, animated". (0.01682% out of 1783871 images)


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
.c rape, animated, 3d


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
There are 92 images matching the query "rape, animated, 3d". (0.00516% out of 1783871 images)


[07-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
bam, visual novel """rape"""


[07-Mar-19 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
though visual novels are usually 2D


[07-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, I'm willing to bet that on average, people would get off less to the game than just reading a rapefic


[07-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
and it was going to get buried in negative reviews


[07-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet there's a clause saying that they can't sue valve for refusing to allow their game on their platform


[07-Mar-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
oh absolutely


[07-Mar-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be more surprised if they didnt


[07-Mar-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[07-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/433077-chris-wallace-on-dnc-debate-decision-left-has-fox-derangement-syndrome

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Chris Wallace on DNC debate decision: Left has 'Fox derangement Ss...
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace on Thursday slammed the Democratic National Committee's (DNC) decision to not allow his network to host a presidential primary debate, saying the committee has "Fox derangement syndrome."
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[07-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any slight disagreement with me is deranged!


[07-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-support-donald-trump-impeachment-russian-assistance-mueller-1355656

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Most of GOP wouldn't support Trump impeachment even if he took Rus...
Democrats, of course, largely support impeaching Trump.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/03/07/donald-trump-rally-poll-impeachment.jpg


[07-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
civil war 2: electric boogaloo when?


[07-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
imagine if bernie gets elected


[07-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
and all the rural racists rebelled, thinking he was specifically out to take away their racism


[07-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
even after he chooses sarah palin to be his vice president


[07-Mar-19 09:50 PM] Honahue#0656
He should choose AOC as his vice


[07-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Honahue#0656
I know you need to be 35 for president but I'm not sure it says you do for vice


[07-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
same for vice, so that's a no-go


[07-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Fucking 12th amendment


[07-Mar-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he didn't contest the midterms


[07-Mar-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just another vaporware threat.


[07-Mar-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
who didn't contest the midterms?


[07-Mar-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump


[08-Mar-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/opinion/bolsonaro-tweet-carnival.amp.html

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By CLEUCI de OLIVEIRA
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/opinion/bolsonaro-tweet-carnival.amp.html
Opinion | The President and the Golden Shower
Why was Brazil’s conservative leader tweeting out kink?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/07/opinion/07oliveira/07oliveira-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/07/ilhan-omar-controversy-house-resolution/3092371002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/07/ilhan-omar-controversy-house-resolution/3092371002/
House overwhelmingly passes resolution condemning hate after Rep. ...
The resolution was broadened from its original version, which focused solely on denouncing anti-Semitism, to condemning other forms of bigotry.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/07/USAT/40c66a3e-8bea-496f-9835-1531e93ebf7d-EPA_USA_OMAR_ISRAEL.JPG?crop=5501,3094,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[08-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
USA today's comments seem to be broken lol


[08-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
||https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1103069837876711425||


[08-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that conservatives' bread and butter as far as social issues is to find something that's hard to defend


[08-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then lambast it and say that it's a sign of the moral rot of the group they're trying to denigrate.


[08-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why we must defend these things.


[08-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
wat https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/opinion/ilhan-omar-anti-semitism.html

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By BRET STEPHENS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/opinion/ilhan-omar-anti-semitism.html
Opinion | Ilhan Omar Knows Exactly What She Is Doing
The Minnesota Democrat is bringing Corbynism to the Democratic Party.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/06/opinion/06stephensWeb/06stephensWeb-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
this guy's drawing a lot of conclusions from the fact that someone thinks that israel's government is evil


[08-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
>“Israel has hypnotized the world,” she tweeted in 2012. “May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” Last month, she wrote that U.S. support for Israel was “all about the Benjamins baby.” A few weeks after that, she told an audience in D.C. that “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”


[08-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
nothing in there is anti-semitic


[08-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
nothing she's said is anti-semitic


[08-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
maybe the writer seems to think that because she mentioned "Allah", she must be directly attacking jews for being jewish or something


[08-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
the writer also seems to think that because she correctly mentions that there's an economic incentive for the neoliberals in congress to defend israel's government, she's discriminating against jews with the "greedy big-nosed jew" meme


[08-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
and there's absolutely nothing wrong with calling out the fact that for the past two years, there's been more and more political emphasis put on making it illegal to boycott israel, which is a completely indefensible violation of the first amendment


[08-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
literally the only reason she's not going back on that last one is because she's backed up by the first amendment


[08-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
the other two could be construed as discriminatory slander if you squinted really hard while looking at it in a foggy, scratched up mirror from 300 feet away


[08-Mar-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
instead of just turning your head 85 degrees and reading it a few feet away


[08-Mar-19 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
she's walking the line very carefully with the jew stereotype


[08-Mar-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I wish her criticism of us policy in israel hadn't been mired by the imprecision of her statements


[08-Mar-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
that first one was a tweet from 2012, only the second and third ones have been made since entering office


[08-Mar-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
she should've definitely clarified the second one though


[08-Mar-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
point out the economic incentives that US neoliberals have to defend israel's government instead of meming about benjamins


[08-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
but it's highly unlikely you get two alexandrias in a single, freshman generation of politicians


[08-Mar-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/PI20XY/status/1103069836832313346

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https://twitter.com/PI20XY/status/1103069836832313346
@TheMarySue all men huh?
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724
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[08-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-police-officer-nouman-raja-who-fatally-shot-stranded-black-n980436

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Ex-police officer convicted in fatal shooting of black motorist
Nouman Raja, 41, could face life in prison in the 2015 killing of Corey Jones, a musician.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_10/2777416/190307-nouman-raja-al-0901_5ff19064f53e5400a05b6d580a465b9f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, a white cop got convicted of shooting an innocent black man


[08-Mar-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the end times.


[08-Mar-19 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47491688

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Ex-Trump campaign chief sentenced for fraud
Paul Manafort tells the court he feels "humiliated" by his conviction for hiding millions in income.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/DCAD/production/_105939465_manafort.jpg


[08-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/holocaust-survivor-who-stepsister-anne-frank-meeting-teens-swastika-party-n980661

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/holocaust-survivor-who-stepsister-anne-frank-meeting-teens-swastika-party-n980661
Holocaust survivor who is stepsister of Anne Frank to meet teens f...
The students were photographed gleefully giving Nazi salutes around a swastika formed by drinking cups during a party.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_10/2777991/190307-eva-schloss-cs-252p_fee748950ad6eb49b2bb1ad2c439193a.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Mar-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Mar-19 02:32 AM] Litrojia#0612
fuck


[08-Mar-19 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shit


[08-Mar-19 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hell


[08-Mar-19 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the politics server so we can swear here


[08-Mar-19 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q add @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 swearing is only permitted in the politics channel


[08-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, quote added (@BadgingBadger🦄🌈: swearing is only permitted in the politics channel)


[08-Mar-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
Ёбанный врот


[08-Mar-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
Сучёныши пизданутые


[08-Mar-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
Охуелли в конец


[08-Mar-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
Бляди сраные


[08-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Excuse me, this is a SHARIA server.


[08-Mar-19 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shakira law


[08-Mar-19 02:56 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:57 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 02:59 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Mar-19 05:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3x52UrlIEc

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The Thinkery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3x52UrlIEc
The Guardian is Trying to Radicalise Muslims
Into communism, apparently. Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/profile/JnQkBKkHmwuP/ You can support me via: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/sargo...
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[08-Mar-19 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/y7_aeFyMwD0

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VaushVidya
https://youtu.be/y7_aeFyMwD0
Capitalism vs Socialism - a Scuffed Response to PragerU
It gets better every time. Streamed 03/06/19 Stream - https://www.twitch.tv/vaushvidya Discord - https://discord.gg/arShc96 Twitter - https://twitter.com/Vau...
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[08-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, apparently the big conservative talking heads like hannity, mark levin, rush limbaugh, etc have taken it upon themselves to inform everyone that "consensus on climate change" and any other type of widespread agreement on something is "socialism"


[08-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The basis of the scientific method is consensus


[08-Mar-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you're someone like Josephson who won a Nobel Prize and then got so into drugs he thought spoon bending was a real thing and that scientific consensus is fake news


[08-Mar-19 06:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vHtE2BUETw

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The Thinkery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vHtE2BUETw
Muslim Mums vs Gay Teachers
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[08-Mar-19 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Then to the guillotines with them.


[08-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivhPrHQ6iUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYmnsDeYTg

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Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivhPrHQ6iUI
Continued harassment & intimidation of my family by media working ...
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Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYmnsDeYTg
The world is watching this state persecution - more details on per...
Sign up at http://www.freedomfortommy.com so I can contact you when I eventually get deleted. Hope to see you at The Royal Courts of Justice, The Strand, Lon...
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[08-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like the guy broke some technical rules and is embroiled in massive bullshit of the English sort.


[08-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Years of litigation over minor stuff while being a shitty person.


[08-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/07/ex-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-sentenced-to-47-months-for-fraud-in-mueller-case.html

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Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort sentenced to 47 months for f...
"He has lived an otherwise blameless life," the judge said of Manafort, a central figure in the special counsel's Russia probe.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/07/12/105326378-1531413014749paulmanafort.1910x1000.jpg


[08-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Manafort cried about how bad prison was to the judge so he got the minimum sentence possible.


[08-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he were blakk, he would've gotten 20 years


[08-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
of course, if he smoked crakk, 20 years would be the minimum possible


[08-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
since it's rich people crimes, 20 years was just the suggested, and the judge could've just let him go free almost


[08-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they doxxed where his wife and kids lived to antifa. they showed up to where they lived with a pitbull and clubs and intimidated his wife and three children


[08-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[08-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are completely unrelated to sentencing


[08-Mar-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I think he's talking about the other guy, not manafort


[08-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal.


[08-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah tommy. the first vid is about that the second is the retrial


[08-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Threats from third parties do not matter for whether someone should be put on trial or how long of a sentence they deserve.


[08-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole situation's just a stupid mess where nobody can fukking stop for a moment.


[08-Mar-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like he added on "far left" just for extra conservative points


[08-Mar-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how it works, yes


[08-Mar-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you make yourself a big enuff target to get some crazies after you, then you paint the whole side of the political divide with them.


[08-Mar-19 07:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Twenty bucks on he said some race realist shit and that's not brought up because if he said "We should sinks wihout mercy migrant boats" or something about moving out all black and brown people that'd effect the whole story.


[08-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He formed some political group out of soccer hooligans and muslim haters.


[08-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he decided to justify it, he needed to go after pedos while they were on trial


[08-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why he's facing contempt of court.


[08-Mar-19 07:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
UKIP too


[08-Mar-19 07:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
He deserves no friends then.


[08-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it's the usual whining about how he played with fire and got a tad bit singed.


[08-Mar-19 07:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comrades, carry on assaulting his door


[08-Mar-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
how do you get held in contempt for reporting on a trial?


[08-Mar-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't even know that was a thing


[08-Mar-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Recording defendants in official proceedings


[08-Mar-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You kinda need permission for that.


[08-Mar-19 07:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he left edl almost 10 years ago. he's been solo since then. he only recently joined ukip after being invited to join


[08-Mar-19 07:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he was outside the court building and he already asked if he was on court property or not before hand,


[08-Mar-19 07:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
plus he only repeated information that was already in the papers


[08-Mar-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bull fukking shit


[08-Mar-19 07:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's true.


[08-Mar-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what I mean


[08-Mar-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're obfuscating the problem


[08-Mar-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
By covering it in facts that aren't relevant


[08-Mar-19 07:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the courtcase was over. all that was left was the sentencing.


[08-Mar-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the guy put out prejudicial statements on defendants while judges were trying to curtail reporting


[08-Mar-19 07:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the defendants were already found guilty of multiple rapes of children


[08-Mar-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
the EU takes the privacy of the accused incredibly seriously from what I understand


[08-Mar-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[08-Mar-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about whether they were found guilty


[08-Mar-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sentencing is an important part of the fukking process


[08-Mar-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just let people put out tons of shit about them during sentencing


[08-Mar-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
he probably could've reported as much as he liked after the sentencing


[08-Mar-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
or as much as is reasonable


[08-Mar-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having people shouting about how they raped children because they're MUSLIM is ridiculous


[08-Mar-19 08:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Tommy was outside. the courtroom was already in session with no cameras. there is no way tommy could've interfered in the sentancing.


[08-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the jury hadn't finished yet


[08-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-facebook-sued-syrian-refugee-attack-school-huddersfield-defamation-jamal-a8805071.html

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Tommy Robinson served with legal letter over 'defamation' of attac...
Pre-action letter delivered to English Defence League founder's home
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[08-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, this has nothing to do with a court case


[08-Mar-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
>Lawyers representing a Syrian boy who was attacked at school have served a legal letter at Tommy Robinson’s home in an attempt to sue him for defamation.


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
>Footage of the 15-year-old victim being pushed to the ground and having water poured on his face sparked outrage, and police continue to investigate the incident in Huddersfield.


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was putting out information saying the defendants were doing JIHAD CHILD RAPE etc.


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
>Amid prominent media coverage, Mr Robinson posted a series of videos on his Facebook account accusing the boy of bullying and claiming “lots of Muslim gangs are beating up white English kids” in Britain.


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
he accused a victim of an attack of being a bully


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was very clearly trying to influence the jury


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
he's accusing the bullied of being a bully


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
this guy's an asshole


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
who would even bother defending him?


[08-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when told he broke the reporting rule he was like "had no idea mate"


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right wing fukknuts, Crow


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I would because i've done research about the guy.


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got super mad about the contempt of court stuff


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they hate it when they can't say it's a big Muslim conspiracy


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if even half of things that have happened were true then this man's rights have severely been threatened.


[08-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they double hate it when they can't try to get mob justice to swing a jury against all these horrible muslims


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This man abused the fukk out of things


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't his fukking rights.


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK HIM.


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Throw him in fukking jail.


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously.


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't listen to courts


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
his real name is "Stephen Yaxley-Lennon"


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
not tommy robinson


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@Crow I would strongly urge you to do more research on tommy than just one article. there is a lot of misinformation about him.


[08-Mar-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can spew whatever conspiracy fukking bullshit you want


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/05/uk-far-right-activist-circumvents-facebook-ban-to-livestream-threats/

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/05/uk-far-right-activist-circumvents-facebook-ban-to-livestream-threats/
UK Far Right activist circumvents Facebook ban to livestream threats
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a Far Right UK activist who was permanently banned from Facebook last week for repeatedly breaching its community standards on hate speech, was nonetheless able to use its platform to livestream harassment of an anti-fascist blogger whom he doorstepped ...
https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/gettyimages-630348652.jpg?w=600


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but NOT DURING A TRIAL WHERE THE JUDGE SPECIFICALLY SAID NOT TO TRY TO SWAY THE JURY


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
>Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a Far Right UK activist who was permanently banned from Facebook last week for repeatedly breaching its community standards on hate speech, was nonetheless able to use its platform to livestream harassment of an anti-fascist blogger whom he doorstepped at home last night.


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how could he sway a jury that's already assembled inside


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
he want to some antifa guy's house


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
just like he accuses antifa of coming to his house


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The jury has some media access


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
after antifa came to his house first


[08-Mar-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire damn point.


[08-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and threatened his children


[08-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy's a special fukking snowflake


[08-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
who wouldn't want to confront them after that


[08-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wants protection for his rights above anyone else's.


[08-Mar-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1102742877342482433

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https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1102742877342482433
I've spent the last few months documenting how 'Tommy Robinson’ uses doorstepping to intimidate his critics, and how social media giants have enabled it. 

So what does he do? Turns up at my house tonight. 1/
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[08-Mar-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1102743884042518528

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https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1102743884042518528
I was asleep when 'Tommy’ turned up around 10.15pm tonight - I work for a living. The first I knew of it was when a pounding began on the door and windows of my home. 

There must have been more than just 'Tommy’, as multiple doors and windows were being smacked - hard...
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[08-Mar-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
seriously, who does that


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right wing fukknuts


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
he called that dude a pedophile too


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
who think that the ultimate justice is their angry mob of white people who know the muslim brown people are out to organize more child rape jihad


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then hav the gall to insist that THEY are the oppressed ones.


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same old tactic


[08-Mar-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
so he's getting hit by like 2 private defamation lawsuits at once on top of whatever the government is doing


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right wing fukknuts break the rules, then when anyone actually tries to stop them, they cry oppression.


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
maybe he thought he could get away with it like alex jones does in the US


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, he did.


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's in the UK lol


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
but alex jones didn't get away with it, did he?


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
he's getting demolished in court now lol


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
it took forever, but they finally got him


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alex Jones IIRC is getting all his documents looked at by Sandy Hook families


[08-Mar-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means he's going to get rekt


[08-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@Crow  these may be long vids but you may want to give these a watch. ignore what luna or myself have to say about the man. just watch these two vids and do more research and draw your own conclusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQ3pmDjfkc

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OxfordUnion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A
Tommy Robinson - Main Speech
SUBSCRIBE for more speakers ► http://is.gd/OxfordUnion Oxford Union on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theoxfordunion Oxford Union on Twitter: @OxfordUnio...
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Brittany Pettibone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQ3pmDjfkc
The Tommy Robinson Interview That Got Me Banned From The U.K.
Thanks for watching. (ᵔᴥᵔ) Tommy's Twitter: https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra Tommy's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6wdP5hTf_phre6Q3kFiV2g Tom...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WnQ3pmDjfkc/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol classic


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube vids from conservative talking heads


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They love the video format cause it plays off emotions better


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas text is very dry and factual


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then they can say that vids are where the REAL INFO is


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
are you so cynical that you are not going to give this stuff the benefit of the doubt?


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that all that text is misleading, fake news, etc.


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh, yes


[08-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
one is a speach and the other is a interview,


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I knew nothing about this guy until today, and all the info on him shows he's a right wing fukknut of the highest order


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
who is whining over being rightfully slapped


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then you know little about the guy.


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you're not helping by spewing bullshit to try to bury the actual problems.


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
"The definition of fascism is trying to stop people who have a difference in opinion from you."


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't intend to know his life story of being OPPRESSED for daring to speak the TRUTH about the JIHAD CHILD RAPE ORGANIZATIONS


[08-Mar-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
where did he get this definition of fascism from


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another classic


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
this is not the definition of fascism


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
actual fascists like him want to change the definition of fascism


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that they can't be called it.


[08-Mar-19 08:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
suppression of opinion is a authoritarian tactic.


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, his "opinion" isn't being suppressed


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
wrong again.


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
his attempts to disrupt trials with bullshit spewed all over the media is.


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, fukk you.


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just don't hav to listen to this very obvious right wing BS.


[08-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cry *all you want* about how someone's being oppressed as they harass others and ignore court orders.


[08-Mar-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not buying it.


[08-Mar-19 08:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
his facebook and instagram has been removed without warning. there is calls for him to be barred from public places. there's efforts by that one lawyerr to get his channel taken down on youtube


[08-Mar-19 08:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
anyway just watch the vids and reserve judgement. it's all i ask


[08-Mar-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
but nationalizing giant media corporations who influence public opinion is :socialism:


[08-Mar-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)

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Tommy Robinson (activist)
Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (born 27 November 1982), known as Tommy Robinson, is an English far-right activist serving as a political adviser to the Leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), Gerard Batten since November 2018. Robinson is a co-founder, former spokesman...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Tommy_Robinson_at_Speakers%27_Corner%2C_Hyde_Park.png


[08-Mar-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
>In May 2018, Robinson was sentenced to 13 months' imprisonment for contempt of court after publishing a Facebook Live video of defendants entering a law court, contravening a court order that disallows reporting on such trials while proceedings are ongoing.


[08-Mar-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
>That sentence included activation of an earlier three-month suspended sentence for a similar earlier contempt of court at Canterbury. Robinson was released on 5 November 2018, with his appeal against the Leeds conviction succeeding and the sentence being quashed. A new trial was ordered.


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
the sentence was "quashed", whatever that means


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
not dismissed


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd want him barred from public places


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
if he's constantly harassing people


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
>A motion to quash is a request to a court to render a previous decision of that court or a lower judicial body null or invalid. It can arise out of mistakes made by any lawyer in a court proceeding. A lawyer may file a motion to quash if a mistake has been on the part of a court, or if an attorney believes that the issuance of some court document like a subpoena was not done in a legal manner.


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and ignores court orders


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He sounds like the sort that's literally a danger to society.


[08-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
so it just renders the decision invalid, sort of like a mistrial


[08-Mar-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
so it doesn't violate double jeopardy to recharge him


[08-Mar-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
he's acting like he's being sent to gulag for something he didn't do


[08-Mar-19 08:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
prison for him is likely a death sentence.  if you watch the two vids i sent about you'll understand why


[08-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's retarded.


[08-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
that sounds blown way out of proportion


[08-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not really. there's a lot of folks in prison who are Muslim who'd like to shank him if given the chance.


[08-Mar-19 08:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
during his first time in prison he got beaten up so badly he lost his front teeth and wears implants now.


[08-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
last stint in prison he spent the entire time in solitary for his own safety


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-prison-free-mentally-tortured-no-tv-edl-far-right-a8477096.html

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Tommy Robinson complains he was 'mentally tortured' because he had...
Officials deny EDL founder's claim he was kept in solitary confinement for 23 hours every day
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/08/02/07/COURTS-Robinson-163502-0.jpg


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
>Tommy Robinson has lodged an official complaint claiming he was “mentally tortured” after being given no TV while in prison.


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure that he'd be the one shanking muslims, not the other way around


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Considering that non-muslims are the majority of inmates


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
>In what was purportedly a form lodged with the prison service, posted by the far-right figurehead on his Facebook page, he claimed he had been kept in solitary confinement for 23 hours every day for two months.


[08-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the general behavior of race gangs in prisons


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, when your reason for not wanting someone in jail is


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
>“Mr Yaxley-Lennon was treated with the same fairness we aim to show all prisoners – he had access to visits, television and showers – and it is totally false to say he was held in ‘solitary confinement’”, said a Prison Service spokesman.


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
that they're such a huge asshole they're likely to get stabbed by the minority group they've all but been begging people to stab to death


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk you.


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
>“I was supposed to be in Her Majesty’s Prison Service, not Guantanamo Bay,” he said.


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[08-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
he wants muslims to be in guantanamo bay


[08-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
but he doesn't want to be in guantanamo bay


[08-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't get to be a hugely shitty person and be free from punishment just because they've made so many enemies with their shit that they might be in danger of retaliation.


[08-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
>Robinson left prison with more money and more supporters than when he entered, including public recognition from the US president’s son Donald Trump Jr.


[08-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a HORRID thing to go with as an idea.


[08-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you're basically encouraging people to be hugely shitty so they can go "help me I'll get stabbed in jail!"


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he had no human contact, no air conditioning as it was broken in his cell, he didn't trust the food given to him as he was not allowed to watch it get prepared, his cell window faced the yard and so everyday insults and threats were hurled at him through the window.


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get special fukking treatment for being a hugely shitty person.


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
"didn't trust the food" isn't a valid complaint


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prisoners normally are not allowed to watch their food be fukking prepared


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
lakking AC is also some BS


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
also


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
how was it no human contact if threats were hurled thru the window?


[08-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are the only two valid complaints and they are CONTRADICTORY


[08-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's not solitary confinement


[08-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
solitary confinement should be considered a crime against humanity


[08-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
but being insulted is a form of human contact, so it isn't solitary confinement


[08-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling he might've had one or two guys messing around with him


[08-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
and blew it way out of proportion


[08-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
has literally any of his claims been found to be true by any independent source?


[08-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
why hasn't he filed lawsuits if these things happened to him?


[08-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoAxe0J3k3c

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[08-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
this interview was about the recent prison experiance


[08-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
I said independent


[08-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/tommy-robinsons-guantanamo-prison-claim-14986892

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Tommy Robinson Guantanamo prison claim rubbished by Brum detainee
Tommy Robinson wrong to compare British prisons with Guantanamo Bay, says former Birmingham detainee
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[08-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then you wouldn't mind seeing a alternative article and then draw your own conclusions.


[08-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
"Birmingham-based former Guantanamo Bay detainee Moazzam Begg has criticised Tommy Robinson for comparing the notorious detention centre with the Midlands prison where he was recently held."


[08-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they say using more than one source helps broaden information regarding a story.


[08-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
so an actual ex-gitmo detainee who was recently held at a british prison said that the british prison was literally nothing like being in gitmo


[08-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
It's a 11 min vid so it shouldn't be a long watch


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
>they say using more than one source helps broaden information regarding a story.


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
>have already looked up 6 sources on the subject


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
you don't know me, dude


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then one more shouldn't hurt dude


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this some dumb UKIP guy


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares


[08-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
stop pretending you do


[08-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i never said i knew you.


[08-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but i notice you seem to be avoiding the vid links. why?


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Watch my super long video that will give clicks and thus income to this person you may disagree with or you can't talk to me" isn't a valid point in discussion.


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
I watched one for like 5 minutes


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
couldn't watch anymore


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
tried the first interview you linked, it was just loaded with all the fallacies


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
I'm trying this 11 minute one, and it's just been a hugbox so far


[08-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
he's not acting like someone who's been in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day for weeks on end


[08-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
victims of that sort of torture usually hate being in public places with loud noises like he is in that video


[08-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking b-but he was oppressed by the scary judge man!


[08-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
because it's a massive overload after being deprived for weeks


[08-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
plus they can't tolerate talking to people for very long


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
to heal them, you need to be "close but not too close"


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
All just for repeatedly defying court orders to say that MUSLIMS ARE ALL CHILD RAPISTS THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE EXECUTED etc.


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
they need to know someone's there without being actually talked to


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
if he had been tortured in the way he claimed, he'd be at home in bed for like a week, not telling his story to literally everyone immediately afterwards


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people don't understand why courts can give contempt orders


[08-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're given so much and for shit as simple as refusing jury duty


[08-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'd never make a jury, I get identified as a critical thinker too quickly


[08-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People on jury panels get figured out quickly.


[08-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it's illegal to mention jury nullification in california


[08-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/blog/2017/06/20/although-juries-can-acquit-the-guilty-9t

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[08-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, he's claiming that while he was in solitary confinement, he couldn't open the window because people would spit through it or throw shit into his cell


[08-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
that's not how solitary confinement works


[08-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like what actually happened is


[08-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was afraid the MUSLIMS would stab him so


[08-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like he willingly stayed separated


[08-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
he refused to leave his cell


[08-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
then refused to open the window out of fear


[08-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
then later went I WAS PUT IN SOLITARY AND CLOSED OFF OH MY GOD GUUUUUYS


[08-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And some other inmates taunted him for being a pussy and he could just barely hear them


[08-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
solitary confinement causes hallucinations, so maybe his self-inflicted solitary confinement caused him to hallucinate everything lol


[08-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
of course, I have yet to see any evidence that he was actually in anything similar to solitary confinement


[08-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
nothing in that interview points to him as having endured that psychological torture


[08-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all part of the plan of these sorts


[08-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
pretend you're in solitary, then say you were


[08-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can exaggerate every little thing about the prison


[08-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if the prison says otherwise, you say they're lying


[08-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, tho, they hav a rule and can't talk about a given inmate's anything after they're out.


[08-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/aug/04/ian-huntley-prisons-compensation-claims

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Compensation claims paid out by every prison in England and Wales
Ian Huntley is to claim compensation for an alleged attack by another inmate. Find out how much is paid out to prisoners annually by every prison in England and Wales
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[08-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
apparently you can sue prisons in the UK for other inmates attacking you


[08-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in Murrika https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/us/colorado-police-black-man-picking-trash-trnd/index.html

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Police officer pulled a gun on a black man picking up trash on his...
The Boulder Police Department has launched an internal investigation after an encounter between a group of officers and a black man was captured on video and circulated online.
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[08-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy went to pikk up trash on his own lawn


[08-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
police officer was like OH SHIT BLAKK GUY PIKKING UP TRASH


[08-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
After the guy showed his ID, the police officer called for bakkup


[08-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like the reason why there's always like 5 police vehicles at every vehicle pulled over for speeding or whatever is because there's so little going on they're just kinda attracted to what little action is happening


[08-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
like moths to a flame


[08-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/kansas-city-catholic-school-rejects-kindergartner-same-sex-parents-n980781

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Kansas Catholic school rejects kindergartner with same-sex parents
About 1,000 people have signed a petition asking St. Ann Parish and School to “prayerfully reconsider” its decision.
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[08-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
when I was coming home today (almost yesterday), I saw like 5 highway patrol SUVs pulled over to the side with 2 fire engines for what looked like a minor rear ending


[08-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
why are the shitty school/education staff always named o'hara


[08-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Irish = Catholic and most likely assimilated quikkly on immigrating


[08-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like I see o'hara disproportionally as a last name involved in shitty education decisions


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Large family that was wealthy in Ireland in the 10th century


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
tons of wealthy descendants


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
>The petition signatories, however, argue that St. Ann has already accepted students whose parents’ marriages are not consistent with the church’s ideas of traditional marriage. Such students include those born via in vitro fertilization and those whose parents are divorced. They also mention that St. Ann accepts non-Catholic students and their families.


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the wealthy become schoolboard people when they can't get into business


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
>accepts non-Catholic students and their families.


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
>non-Catholic


[08-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
FUCKING HEATHENS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


[08-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you'll see a lot of "O'Hara"s being absolute normies who dictate what children get and don't get.


[08-Mar-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the highest position outside being the church leader in many communities.


[08-Mar-19 09:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/Vr-ZeToI4R8

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[08-Mar-19 09:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
LET'S GO


[08-Mar-19 09:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I tried to be sexy in a garbage suit but I failed." -Olly


[08-Mar-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/glichfield/status/925425702194810882

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[08-Mar-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[08-Mar-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmlpHDeHjDE

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[08-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
god, the comments on this are so fucking cringy and mildly horrifying


[08-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
"exactly. but they didnt surrender as many as this shows. they fought bravely until the end. loyal to the last."


[08-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
the very video shows that they hung and shot deserters left and right


[08-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
and people are glorifying this shit


[08-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
"Finally playing on the good side."


[08-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
"Ok kid I know you wanna be an Nazi but you're not you can act like one but your not an Nazi."


[08-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
>Think we'll ever get a campaign that outlines the horrific crimes of the Soviet Union so people can be shown the evils of Communism?


[08-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
"Or maybe a campaign of the Japanese point of view, force to kill Chinese civilians as shooting practice and other cruel things"


[08-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
"the japanese were harsh, but most the war crimes against the chinese have been heavily exaggerated, like the nanjing massacre."


[08-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[08-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
there's even people being japanese apologists in this comment section


[08-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
"yeah the Russians did rapes in occupation of eastern countries and especially Berlin. and massacres happened like to the polish during the Invasion of Poland. But I think the Japanese were way worse, you don’t see the soviets ripping out babies from there mothers bellies, bayoneting people as practice, or other shit."


[08-Mar-19 10:25 AM] moonatik#3676
yay, war crime apologists!


[08-Mar-19 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as-the-caliphate-crumbles-the-islamic-state-is-seeding-a-new-insurgency/2019/03/06/96503d5e-2fae-11e9-8781-763619f12cb4_story.html


[08-Mar-19 11:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The eternal war I suppose shall never end for WashPo


[08-Mar-19 11:40 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-of-migrant-children-were-sexually-abused-in-u-s-custody-hhs-docs-say/?fbclid=IwAR0GLnhtP4cNIuBpkLZngC7cNrk3J6mrcUNA9zLJSzGCUGC5C9SYRtbez_Y

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Thousands of migrant children were sexually abused in U.S. custody...
According to documents obtained by Rep. Ted Deutch's office, more than 4,500 sexual abuse complaints were reported over the past four years
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[08-Mar-19 11:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Civilized country


[08-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h1ooyyFkF0

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[08-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-cohen-sues-trump-organization-for-millions-in-legal-fees

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Michael Cohen sued the Trump Organization in New York Supreme Court on Thursday for millions of dollars in legal fees and costs, claiming the company must pay him for “matters arising” from his work for the company -- including “multiple congressional hearings” and co...
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[08-Mar-19 02:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1103997393073254400?s=21

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[08-Mar-19 02:45 PM] illumnious#7938
HAHAHAHA


[08-Mar-19 02:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Stop fucking lying https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1103994805477085186?s=21

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[08-Mar-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump keeps saying these things and then doign everything he can to secure a budget for it. so you alreayd have the budget or not?


[08-Mar-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cant say the wall is almost done while simoultaniously saying you need to declare a national emergency to build a wall that;s supoosedly almost finished


[08-Mar-19 04:06 PM] Litrojia#0612
❄


[08-Mar-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/03/07/brianna-wu-calls-for-government-legislation-in-response-to-negative-captain-marvel-reviews/

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[08-Mar-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
>congressional candidate


[08-Mar-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
oh no


[08-Mar-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Though Wu claims that Captain Marvel was targeted by trolls due to featuring a female actress in the lead role, the recently lifted review embargo serves as contradictory evidence to her assertion. The film currently holds an average rating of 65 on Metacritic from both male and female reviewers. Despite claims that the movie was being targeted for review bombs before release, most ‘negative reviews’ were merely people stating that they would not be interested in seeing the film. It is ignorant to claim that no persons exist who truly have targeted Larson and Captain Marvel due to personal misogynistic beliefs, but these bad actors are a very small percentage of the overall discussion surrounding the film.


[08-Mar-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good an anita wave femenist is running for congress


[08-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm exhausted of these people whining that when people call something bad, their reason is "because women"


[08-Mar-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[08-Mar-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but we have ghost busters tot hank for this new critic avoidance technique


[08-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't call shit shit because it was advertised female-centric


[08-Mar-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
captain marvel isnt even shit, apparently critics are just calling it "ok"


[08-Mar-19 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything less than revolutionary is calling it shit


[08-Mar-19 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly it is a masterpiece that's only being looked down on for having a female lead


[08-Mar-19 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
>wu


[08-Mar-19 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
>cpt marvel


[08-Mar-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wu is also one of the brilliant fuckers who went to the UN to passionatly beg thme to censor video games


[08-Mar-19 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://66.media.tumblr.com/cac03a05150f2e693e20c6ab88f7a8d6/tumblr_inline_o454tlmWgs1rh60as_540.png

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[08-Mar-19 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Apparently michael jackson really did diddle those kiddies


[08-Mar-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well then


[08-Mar-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meh


[08-Mar-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's dead now there's not much we can do about it


[08-Mar-19 05:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
shock


[08-Mar-19 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
I am so fucking glad I never caried for him one way or another so I can spare my mental capacities from this mess


[08-Mar-19 06:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The movies are just a victim of social movements latching on to them and those that oppose whatever movement it is will shit on that movie because the people they don't like are waving it around. These movies are not coming out to make a political point, they can't do that because they are trying to appeal to the Chinese movie industry where all the money is in the movie business. China would not allow them if they did that intentionally.


[08-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is Cpn Marvel another "Character is in China for no reason and everything so clean and orderly / chinese company or scientist saves the day" movie?


[08-Mar-19 06:04 PM] ononim#8141
It's "Marvel and US military are on good terms again" movie


[08-Mar-19 06:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The only captain marvel I know is the one from DC Comics that had his name changed for obvious reasons. You can only stray so far from source material to please the Chinese. If a studio is just throwing money at a movie they will try to make it acceptable for China to just to make sure they can make it back. Those movies that go all out for China are the ones that are playing extra safe and for profit.


[08-Mar-19 06:27 PM] illumnious#7938
nearly 10 years since he died @prism stryder(intexda)


[08-Mar-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[08-Mar-19 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder Woman was way better.


[08-Mar-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Wonder Woman was a borderline Captain America rip off


[08-Mar-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wonder woman was a great movie


[08-Mar-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no opinion on the captain marvel movie itself but the trailers are advertising her as beign a bit too perfect...


[08-Mar-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m hoping its the case where the movie is better than the trailers make it out to be


[08-Mar-19 08:28 PM] ononim#8141
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[08-Mar-19 08:40 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
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[08-Mar-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Soviets knew space travel though


[08-Mar-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly in hindsight probably better than the US


[08-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] sauce?


[08-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to the USSR, they preferred to enslave the natives rather than genocide them and bring in slaves from elsewhere


[08-Mar-19 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for stalin fucking everything up in the name of power, they might have succeeded


[08-Mar-19 08:59 PM] byte[]#2610
No proof, just read up on the documentary thing


[08-Mar-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kinda just soudns liek an oj simpson documentary where it plays up the crime in question without providing evidence of it actually happening


[08-Mar-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted that isnt a defense of oj simpson


[08-Mar-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea if he's guilty or not. but i;m pretty sure the children who took micheal jackson to court both admitted thewy framed him because he was a creepy guy.


[08-Mar-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i might be wrong


[08-Mar-19 09:08 PM] Honahue#0656
There's a lot of reason to frame him but it was an open rumor about him while he was alive too I don't know why it's suddenly popular again 10 years after he was buried


[08-Mar-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because ratings probably


[08-Mar-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Well he;s been dead 10 years now so he can;t sue us for defamation, let;s do this bitch!"


[08-Mar-19 09:09 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't have any reason to care but I hope he didn't because I don't want him to have hurt kids and also I don't think our society benefits from assuming everyone is a pedo especially if they don't have but like to be around children


[08-Mar-19 09:10 PM] Honahue#0656
People can like to take care and teach kids without wanting to fuck them


[08-Mar-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[08-Mar-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm super awkward around kids because i feel like if i start being friendly towards them i'll have the police on my ass in 2 seconds flat


[08-Mar-19 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
That's no unique to you either, there's been Reddit threads about guys seeing an alone child in a public place and not wanting to help because they're afraid of being called a pedo


[08-Mar-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know it isnt


[08-Mar-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s the fucked up part


[08-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] I don't trust it


[08-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
People going bakk on their old stories when there's money involved


[08-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
MJ took a drug during puberty that causes permanent chemical castration


[08-Mar-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there was fukking nothing found when agents raided Neverland ranch while MJ was out of the country


[08-Mar-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433179-super-bowl-selfie-emerges-of-trump-with-founder-of-spa-where-new

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Super Bowl selfie emerges of Trump with founder of spa tied to New...
A selfie-style photo from President Trump’s annual Super Bowl watch party emerged on Friday showing the president with the founder of a chain of Florida spas — including the one where New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was charged
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/floridaspafounder_miamiherald_facebook.jpg


[08-Mar-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes you think


[08-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's more plausible that what actually happened was MJ was a weirdo who behaved like a child due to losing his balls to medication, and had sleepovers with little boys so he could be with people like him, and make up for his lakk of a real childhood.


[08-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nebbie


[08-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
MJ had two kids


[08-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That clearly are biologically his


[08-Mar-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You only need like a million sperm to eventually successfully reproduce.


[08-Mar-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
pretty much if even a tenth of one ball is working, it can be managed.


[08-Mar-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The testosterone needed to do normal physical development is another matter, every bit counts hugely.


[08-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part about that selfie was people saying Kraft wasn't even the biggest catch


[08-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Cohen probably lied to Congress again about the pardon thing


[08-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the check doesn't lie


[08-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He paid the hush money which was campaign finance fraud at Trump's direction and then Trump reimbursed him for it.


[08-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-report-card-fordham/

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FACT CHECK: Is This President Trump's Report Card from Fordham Uni...
If we gave report cards for social media hoaxes, this one would probably get an "F."
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/03/d1ggrbou0aahe8o-1.jpg?fit=655,462


[08-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's fake :/


[08-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
"One giveaway is the listed address for Donald Trump. While 85-15 Wareham Place is indeed the address of Trump’s childhood home, he only lived at this location for the first four years of his life. In other words, this was not his address when he attended Fordham University in 1964."


[08-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit


[09-Mar-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433252-trump-signs-bibles-during-alabama-disaster-visit

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Trump signs Bibles during Alabama disaster visit
President Trump on Friday signed Bibles for people affected by a string of deadly storms that ripped through Alabama.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_trumpmelania_03082019getty.jpg


[09-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
Um


[09-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm not gonna lie


[09-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
That doesn't seem very news worthy


[09-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
someone signing bibles is like that person's claiming to be God


[09-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
True


[09-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
it's incredibly arrogant at best, and probably would've warranted a death penalty in the past at worst


[09-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Even though Trump is probably the opposite of religious


[09-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Not atheist


[09-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
But he obviously only cares about himself


[09-Mar-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is the walking opposite of bible morals


[09-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
I've said it before and I'll say it again


[09-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm fairly certain most conservatives don't like him at all


[09-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Hell, Mike Pence probably doesn't even like him


[09-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
his own base has said that they don't like him, they only support him because of "liberal tears"


[09-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
He just sides with him because he and the rest of the GOP can convince him to do their things


[09-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Mar-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've become the party of corporate circus acts at this point


[09-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
hitler could come out through a portal in time he used to escape germany in 1945, get a fake birth certificate showing he was born in the US, and run for president, and trump's base would vote for him just because he triggers the left


[09-Mar-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exxon tells them to walk a tight rope while verizon tells them to tame a lion and they get to work on it


[09-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Mar-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/08/701630382/activity-at-2nd-north-korean-missile-site-indicates-possible-launch-preparations

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Activity At 2nd North Korean Missile Site Indicates Possible Launc...
Satellite imagery shows that vehicles and rail cars appeared in late February at Sanumdong, a facility where the North has built some of its largest rockets and missiles.
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[09-Mar-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh shocking


[09-Mar-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such a twist this is


[09-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
North Korea lied about denuclearization again?


[09-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
You don't say!


[09-Mar-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If this escalates... let's see how the toddler-in-chief handles a war


[09-Mar-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or not, he could just pussy out of it and admit his negotiations came to nothing


[09-Mar-19 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or it could just be an innocent satellite, as the article says. Who knows.


[09-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
defeating north korea is not something the world would tolerate the US doing since it basically dooms south korea to destruction as well, not including that china would defend north korea, and NATO would back the US


[09-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
north korea's one of the WW3 catalysts floating around


[09-Mar-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i think kim knows this as well


[09-Mar-19 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, imagine having Trump of all possible people handling such a crisis


[09-Mar-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim doesnt have to play trump's little game, he runs a ww3 catalyst all he has to do is humor trump a little and he has trump like a worm on a hook


[09-Mar-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine Trump in 1962, trying to handle the Cuban Missile Crisis


[09-Mar-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant it;s too incomprehensible


[09-Mar-19 02:51 AM] illumnious#7938
six seconds of the video and all I see was FAST FUCKING FOOD...AGAIN https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1102671922737881088

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President Trump's message to those affected by the tornadoes in the Gulf states: "We grieve by your side and we pledge our unwavering support to help you rebuild from the very depths of this horrible tragedy." https://t.co/s2QEfJhCDe
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[09-Mar-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it just truly wasnt complete without a panning shot of the hamberder buffet


[09-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/08/politics/trump-paul-manafort-collusion/index.html

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Trump falsely claims Manafort judge declared there was 'no collusi...
President Donald Trump weighed in Friday to the sentencing of his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort by twisting a federal judge's words to claim that there was no collusion with Russia in the 2016 campaign.
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[09-Mar-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this poiint trump does this after every trial


[09-Mar-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The trial wasnt about me as the defendant therefore i;m innocent, NO COLLUSION WITCH HUNT PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!"


[09-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Signing bibles is something that if any previous president did, would be seen as the most disrespectful moment in their presidency.


[09-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's Trump.


[09-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-budget-to-propose-slashing-domestic-spending-boosting-defense/2019/03/08/1758b6e0-41c2-11e9-a0d3-1210e58a94cf_story.html


[09-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
he wants to cut domestic spending to increase defense spending again


[09-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
"Even with deep spending cuts, the president’s plan would not balance the budget until the mid-2030s, two people briefed on the plan said, falling short of the 10-year time frame that Republicans have sought for years. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the plan ahead of its public release."


[09-Mar-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
starve the country to feed the army


[09-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
"Instead, Trump’s advisers say the budget would balance after 15 years because they presume that economic growth will continue at high levels and bring in more revenue, a prediction that many economists have said is not possible."


[09-Mar-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's advisers are quite frankly morons of the highest callibur


[09-Mar-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none of them have ever touched an economics class in their life, and this is coming from someone who has never touched an economics class in their life


[09-Mar-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've gently rubbed my fingers along Wealth of Nations' spine and am in the process of reading Das Kapital.


[09-Mar-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Roughly half way through volume 1 of the three part series


[09-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[09-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Litrojia#0612
holy shit when will the fast food meme end


[09-Mar-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when it stops beign profitable


[09-Mar-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s this generations verison of being hip with the kids


[09-Mar-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but more manipulative


[09-Mar-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also makes them look more human which does wonders for their ability to lobby


[09-Mar-19 03:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Litrojia Until people lose interest. It's just beginning to transition into this new phase of advertising. But O think we're already getting tired of fast food waifutry.


[09-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Litrojia#0612
yeah, seems like he knew it drew attention so he kept doing it


[09-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Litrojia#0612
but now no one cares


[09-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
like I mentioned before, fast food will probably always be around


[09-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
even traditional restaurants manage to hang on


[09-Mar-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
because they all sell a product which has to be either immediately consumed or eventually thrown out


[09-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
I was talking about Trump's fast food, not the Arby's thing


[09-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
yeah fast food in general ain't going anywhere


[09-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[09-Mar-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when the news stops reporting it


[09-Mar-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's foudn a novelty that works so he;s going to run it intot he gorund even if it means guests stop showing up


[09-Mar-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is not intelligent


[09-Mar-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
But he surely knows how to bait the media


[09-Mar-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's less that he knows how to bait the media and more that the media can't resist falling for his shitty bait


[09-Mar-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
it generates views and ratings, after all


[09-Mar-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/08/entertainment/jussie-smollett-indictment/index.html

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Jussie Smollett indicted on 16 felony counts for allegedly making ...
"Empire" actor Jussie Smollett, who authorities say filed false reports of a crime, has been indicted on 16 felony counts by a Cook County grand jury.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190129120438-02-jussie-smollett-file-super-tease.jpg


[09-Mar-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
that seems excessive


[09-Mar-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
>The indictment charges Smollett, 36, with 16 counts of disorderly conduct.


[09-Mar-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
what even would be considered a felony count of "disoderly conduct"


[09-Mar-19 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
Trump's twitter in one photo

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[09-Mar-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/08/701448955/blackout-in-venezuela-leaves-its-leaders-casting-blame-in-the-dark

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Blackout In Venezuela Leaves Its Leaders Casting Blame In The Dark
President Nicolás Maduro blamed the "electricity war" on the United States, while opposition leader Juan Guaidó said the onus was on Venezuela's ruling party, "the usurpers."
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/03/08/ap_19067070797032_wide-457fd3a462a9274073e1654fbab2dda8beea4077.jpg?s=1400


[09-Mar-19 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
spooky


[09-Mar-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
power outages aren't new to the country, they haven't maintained or upgraded their hydroelectric infrastructure in forever


[09-Mar-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
but this is the longest and most widespread in its history


[09-Mar-19 05:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/08/house-democrats-voting-age-16/

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125 Democrats And 1 Republican Vote To Lower Voting Age To 16
Big name Democrats come out in favor of radical change
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[09-Mar-19 05:04 AM] illumnious#7938
at least they starting that at an early age


[09-Mar-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
voting age and age of majority should be increased to 25 imo


[09-Mar-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
why?


[09-Mar-19 05:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Leave it as it is imo


[09-Mar-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, unless you also intend to increase the minimum age of enlisting in the armed forces, that's never gonna fly


[09-Mar-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
also what do you mean "majority"


[09-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make absolutely everything 18.


[09-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Driving, drinking, smoking, armed services


[09-Mar-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Driving should allow permits at 16 but license at 18.


[09-Mar-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
@Mikey, age of majority is when someone's considered an adult, human brains don't stop developing until about 25


[09-Mar-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
16 is a good age for voting


[09-Mar-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
most things with any sort of financial responsibility (car insurance, renting cars, etc) require you to be 25


[09-Mar-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really what is developed in two years


[09-Mar-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly McConnell will get this killed


[09-Mar-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
it didn't pass the house


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
so you think it should be raised from 18 to 25


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
good luck with that


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I do think it's dumb to suggest that people aren't capable of handling any responsibilities until their brains have biologically matured fully


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is zero excuse for at the very least legal majority not being the voting age.


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
of course it's not going to happen, but in a perfect world where everything is sane and logical, that would be what would happen


[09-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is the age where you can be drafted and pay taxes


[09-Mar-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[09-Mar-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
also agreed wingbeat


[09-Mar-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it is because of the draft that the voting age got *lowered* to that


[09-Mar-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If we start judging on brain development we will eventually go into "people under certain IQs shouldn't vote_


[09-Mar-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
16 would work as a voting age.


[09-Mar-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Wild in the Streets_ is a weird parade of horribles.


[09-Mar-19 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm definitely not on board with the idea to arbitrarily set every restriction to the same age, either


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
21 is the typical age for alcohol use in the US


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any alcohol use under 25 could theoretically impact brain development


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That ship has sailed.


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
drinking is overrated


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
same with marijuana


[09-Mar-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
marijuana's been shown to permanently alter brain development


[09-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
well yes


[09-Mar-19 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For one thing, it ignores everything about why the age restrictions were chosen in the first place, and for another, it'd mean that you hit that age and suddenly be faced with ALL of these social and personal responsibilities at once


[09-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Coffee and alcohol are to be enjoyed and appreciated otherwise it's useless


[09-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
it has psychoactive chemicals


[09-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An Ethiopian coffee is different from a Kenyan as a bourbon is drastically different given its methods of brewing


[09-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I make a mental note of the notes of the coffee or alcohol I drink as all is different


[09-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
also, I'm not suggesting that people aren't capable of handling responsibilities until their brains are done maturing, I'm saying that there's a lot of evidence pointing towards letting people have responsibilities before a certain age to be a bad idea on average


[09-Mar-19 05:38 AM] Mikey#7286
blame society I guess


[09-Mar-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
I've thought that the age of majority should be raised to 25 since I was 22 btw


[09-Mar-19 05:38 AM] Mikey#7286
tfw almost 28


[09-Mar-19 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i've almost gotten through my 20s


[09-Mar-19 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't know how to feel about that


[09-Mar-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, btw hitting that age and being hit by a bunch of responsibilities is already happening at 18


[09-Mar-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
and people at 18 are even less equipped to deal with that than at 25


[09-Mar-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know, and I think it's stupid


[09-Mar-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think we need to spread it out, *earlier*


[09-Mar-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
it literally goes from "aw you're so cute" to "when the fuck are you going to get a job you freeloading scum"


[09-Mar-19 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, when they have a chance to learn this stuff, and I think we're neglecting to teach it


[09-Mar-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, making 25 the age of majority would give more chances for people to branch out and figure themselves out before they're forced to choose a definite path


[09-Mar-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I remember learning how to write checks in middle school. I don't think I *ever* learned how to fill out tax forms


[09-Mar-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that was on my parents


[09-Mar-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, the whole changing the voting age to 16 sounds like an obvious attempt to increase their voter base instead of having any real reason for doing so


[09-Mar-19 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, I had a course on *boating* but for some reason driver's ed isn't part of typical school curriculum


[09-Mar-19 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I HAVE A BOATING LICENSE


[09-Mar-19 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
You don't really need to fill out tax forms. There's online stuff that does that well enough today. So it's a skill that's gone by the wayside.


[09-Mar-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
>Pressley cited teen activists pushing for gun control as a reason to give 16-year-olds the right to vote, which she compared to having a driver’s license.


[09-Mar-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
does she think that they'll suddenly turn against gun control between the age of 16 and 18?


[09-Mar-19 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yes?


[09-Mar-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's obviously a problem which should've been fixed yesteryear, but just because there's activists below a certain age doesn't mean that the voting age should be lowered


[09-Mar-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
I'd say that most people aren't even finished with the aftershocks of puberty by 16


[09-Mar-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
that whole "brain is fully developed around 25" thing is one of those aftershocks


[09-Mar-19 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Every day I personally interact with high school students and folks from a nearby retirement home and while I consider both groups to be especially stupid, I'd rather see the younger group better represented at the polls


[09-Mar-19 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
lot's of people don't figure themselves out until their 30's and 40's it's pretty rediculous that we demand 18 yo to choose a life path so early


[09-Mar-19 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the main reason for 18 is because it's the age you graduate HS


[09-Mar-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think putting a cap on voting would be such a bad idea either


[09-Mar-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I have a problem with that too


[09-Mar-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
it'd have to be pretty high though


[09-Mar-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Considering we have lifetime appointments to various government positions, you'd have people holding office without themselves having the right to vote


[09-Mar-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
lifetime appointments are pretty shit though


[09-Mar-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I agree, but the thing is, you'd have to get rid of *all* lifetime appointments before an age cap on voting would even be possible, and even then I feel like it violates the constitution


[09-Mar-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I feel like any amendment to restrict the right to vote based on anything like that is just plain not gonna happen


[09-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
well we are founded by a document that was written in the 18th century and for most people lifestyle had barely changed for centuries, I doubt anyone forsaw the industrial revolution


[09-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not sure I like the implications of that


[09-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause it sounds like it's based on a "letter of the law" interpretation of the constitution, rather than a "spirit of the law" interpretation


[09-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the kind of argument that leads to people suggesting the 2nd amendment only covers muskets


[09-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
you realize there's a whole subection of constitutional interpretation which involves only interpreting the constitution in the context of what it mean when it was written at the time right?


[09-Mar-19 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course I do


[09-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
of course, they completely ignore the second amendment when making that argument


[09-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
they want it to apply to any and all weapons ever


[09-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
while saying that the 14th amendment shouldn't apply to LGBT


[09-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
let's give everyone an RPG or a minigun


[09-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[09-Mar-19 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My take on it is, the constitution exists to codify the principles on which the nation was founded


[09-Mar-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And a lot of the changes I've seen people suggesting to the constitution undermine the principles as well as the literal interpretation


[09-Mar-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it does not help that the current administration's MO is to just straight up ignore the constitution and only the SCOTUS is making any effort to curb this behavior


[09-Mar-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like I get that in the system of checks and balances that's kind of their job but we shouldn't have to rely on them as the only ones to pump the brakes on blatantly unconstitutional agendas, right?


[09-Mar-19 06:01 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[09-Mar-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That metaphorical finger was pointed directly at McConnell, btw


[09-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Mikey#7286
he's an idiot


[09-Mar-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's an idiot with far too much power and support for what he's doing


[09-Mar-19 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, "I decide what gets voted on"? *Really?*


[09-Mar-19 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(if you don't know the context for that quote, look it up)


[09-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[09-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
i know lol


[09-Mar-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150524-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150524-story.html
Utah is winning the war on chronic homelessness with 'Housing Firs...
Utah dramatically reduces its chronically homeless population by providing housing before addressing a person's underlying issues.
https://www.latimes.com/resizer/j9mh3XCPF_bK1DGxHbuMGqbFxDU=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/SL2JSM537JALRKCXZTL5PVM6RA.jpg


[09-Mar-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This makes me so angry I want to rip someone to pieces with my bare hands.


[09-Mar-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's fukking *news*, and *exceptional news* at that, that the solution to PEOPLE NOT HAVING HOUSES is in fact to GIVE PEOPLE HOUSES


[09-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget everything you know about homelessness for a moment


[09-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
We say we want to end world hunger


[09-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
do we suggest that the problem is hungry people are addicted to drugs?


[09-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
We say we want to end child rape


[09-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
do we suggest that the problem is that raped children hav mental disorders we need to treat first?


[09-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
We say we want to end disease outbreaks


[09-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
do we suggest that what's really at issue is people's poor choices?


[09-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't, because that would be **fukking retarded**


[09-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we say we want to end homelessness


[09-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and suddenly, those people made poor choices, they hav mental disorders, they're addicted to drugs


[09-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
how can we possibly make these people hav homes?


[09-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
GEE. I WONDER HOW. I JUST CAN'T THINK OF ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO MAKE IT SO SOMEONE HAS A HOME. IF ONLY HOMES WERE GIFTABLE OBJECTS.


[09-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, is there an update to this? that article's from 2015


[09-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know, but that's not the point.


[09-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is it's fundamentally wrong to believe that the issue is someone has no home and that the solution doesn't start with giving them one.


[09-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what the actual data says except for what will help beyond the start of the solution.


[09-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is *not rational* to believe that a problem consisting of the lakk of something shouldn't be addressed at all by providing it.


[09-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, other things can help, and help people fix the problem on their own but


[09-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
deciding to only use those other things is a decision which immediately takes as a principle that you must not help the person directly with the issue.


[09-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is never where things should begin.


[09-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, here is the update. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-housing/once-a-national-model-utah-struggles-with-homelessness-idUSKCN1P41EQ

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-housing/once-a-national-model-utah-struggles-with-homelessness-idUSKCN1P41EQ
Once a national model, Utah struggles with homelessness
SALT LAKE CITY (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Once lauded as a leader among U.S....
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources_v2/images/rcom-default.png


[09-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Once lauded as a leader among U.S. cities struggling to relieve homelessness, the number of people sleeping rough in Utah’s capital has spiked in the past two years, as funding for its groundbreaking housing program dried up.'


[09-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, they decided not to pay to fix it anymore


[09-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it all fell apart.


[09-Mar-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're now looking at pumping in more money to go bakk to fixing it.


[09-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's unlikely they'll succeed, because nobody wants to pay to actually fix problems.


[09-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The legislators are rich assholes who don't care.


[09-Mar-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I heard Finland actually fixed its homelessness problem in a similar manner.


[09-Mar-19 07:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
-20c average for 4 months a year also does a lot to fix homelessness


[09-Mar-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm sure a sufficient number of bullets will fix world hunger, but that's fukking horrible to support.


[09-Mar-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder there are far more houses in the US now then there are homeless people and overnight we can house everyone, from veteran to addict to even illegal immigrants and still have left overs.


[09-Mar-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't make Trump richer.


[09-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just saying, look to North Dakota and see how many homeless people there are; you can't count their policies on the matter (if they even /have/ any) as the primary factor


[09-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the article is about Utah


[09-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like 500 miles further south


[09-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and 500 miles closer to the ocean


[09-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And most of the population is near a large body of water


[09-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there are huge homeless populations in North Dakota


[09-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they hav a voting policy there designed to target natives that as collateral damage makes homeless people unable to vote


[09-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/international/433237-starting-in-2021-americans-will-need-a-visa-to-travel-to-eu

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/433237-starting-in-2021-americans-will-need-a-visa-to-travel-to-eu
Starting in 2021, Americans will need to register to travel to EU
Americans will need to register online and pay a fee before traveling to Europe starting in 2021.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/europeanunionflag_011017getty.jpg


[09-Mar-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you all look forward to the future where you need to make sure your social credit score is high so you can get approved to visit any other countries?


[09-Mar-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And where poor people can never leave?


[09-Mar-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that you'll need a passport, credit or debit card, and an email address.


[09-Mar-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
More info here https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-citizens-need-visas-to-visit-europe-in-2021/index.html

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United States citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting i...
US citizens traveling to Europe without a visa will be a thing of the past come 2021.
https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/w_1200/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F150706155436-france-most-beautiful--paris-super-tease.jpg


[09-Mar-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like


[09-Mar-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US was told to let people visit from Poland or gtfo


[09-Mar-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
US said no, and EU waited until Trump was in office to say gtfo


[09-Mar-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU also has some justification saying that it's to prevent terrorism and illegal immigration threats


[09-Mar-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which combined with the requirements on having a credit card and such, strongly suggests the entire point of this is to keep out US poor people


[09-Mar-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially blakks


[09-Mar-19 11:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/07/brianna-wu-announces-her-2020.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/07/brianna-wu-announces-her-2020.html
Brianna Wu announces her 2020 Congressional bid for MA-8
Brianna Wu announces her 2020 Congressional bid for MA-8
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/123019.png


[09-Mar-19 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her face is every single sjw stereotype there is


[09-Mar-19 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kind of horrifying


[09-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, according to that first article, the reason why the EU is doing that is because the US refused to remove visa requirements for 5 EU members


[09-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I went over that


[09-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland is the biggest of the 5


[09-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why? Because the US believes Poles should be burned.


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
what's wrong with poles?


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not really white.


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, they were allied with the Soviets


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
I know that a ton of them migrate to other parts of europe to work and live because poland is super corrupt


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The visa waiver thing was applied to cold war allies


[09-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
... wasn't poland invaded by the USSR?


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland's exclusion is done because it's full of Poles.


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, you know about the asian thing from Adam Ruins Everything, or another source, right?


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
what asian thing, exactly?


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
idk about it from adam, anyway


[09-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't put out propaganda saying asians are smart and a "model minority"


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
basically saying they're "white but better"


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
during the cold war, because otherwise Asia would turn to Russia


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was so successful


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it became a way to say blakks were inferior


[09-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they hadn't made it as well as the asians [who were propped up by expectations of greatness rather than horribleness]


[09-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if russia will ever join the EU


[09-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[09-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
anyways, so US racial propaganda was basically molded to say that the races in places that either hated communism or were on the fence were A-OK


[09-Mar-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and races in places that were down with communism were lazy, evil, etc.


[09-Mar-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence latinos are seen as the devil and such


[09-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the US hated the Poles prior to the Cold War anyways


[09-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it had no reason to ever accept them


[09-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
To this day, Poles are seen along with most of Eastern Europe as discount whites that are shady and not to be trusted.


[09-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of how their gov'ts were.


[09-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and still are, in many cases)


[09-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland could become the next Germany, and the US would still probably not accept Polish people for half a century.


[09-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, people from East Germany aren't given a second thought


[09-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause there isn't room in the stereotyping to separate out a former enemy that became part of an ally


[09-Mar-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US gov't wouldn't want that to begin with.


[09-Mar-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the parts of Germany that were part of East Germany to this day are poorer, hav more crime, and actually somewhat support communism


[09-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav I diminished your faith in humanity, @Crow?


[09-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
no


[09-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
you haven't said anything that I don't already know


[09-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dang.


[09-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
just expanded it to include some other countries


[09-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weaponized, gov't-crafted racism is normally something shokking to people.


[09-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least as part of the US.


[09-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, there's already tons of racism in the US government against its very own people


[09-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
>very own people


[09-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't believe brown people should be part of the US


[09-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
that it's done on people from outside isn't even a slight surprise


[09-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's great is the EU now deciding they'd rather anyone from the rural south just not be able to come to Germany etc.


[09-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(good lukk getting a credit/debit card in rural Alabama or Florida etc. unless you are very white and also already hav decent money)


[09-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's somewhat indirect enuff that people actually in the EU who don't get how America works will say it's not really meant that way


[09-Mar-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho it's quite clear from the requirement not having an alternative that it's meant that way.


[09-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
do credit unions not exist in the south or something?


[09-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you'll get people from Germany whose idea of wealth inequality is that people in Berlincan only afford a low-end vehicle saying that the EU is doing a good etc.


[09-Mar-19 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would a credit union existing mean you can get a credit card, Crow?


[09-Mar-19 11:38 AM] Crow#5457
debit cards are relatively easy to get


[09-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there's free chekking, yes


[09-Mar-19 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got a debit card just for signing up with a bank account


[09-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[09-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But over in the South, many blakk people don't hav, and would hav trouble getting, a bank account.


[09-Mar-19 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point


[09-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's where a lot of the root of the problems in things like voter registration lie


[09-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things that are super duper accessible in my area are not over in rural Alabama in towns of similar sizes.


[09-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That lakk of accessibility translates into a larger financial hurdle


[09-Mar-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rural NC is probably a lot less hostile than rural alabama too...


[09-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
one I probably wouldn't've been able to pass


[09-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where I liv, we hav a bank with two locations in town that offers totally free chekking


[09-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, they gav me a bakkpakk too when I opened my account


[09-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a very good one, but it lasted a while my last year of high school.


[09-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
was it canvas or nylon


[09-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
nylon mostly


[09-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like, that's essentially a $20 gift


[09-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
for signing up for an essential service with phone support


[09-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
that I get for free


[09-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The variability in the US system is ridiculous.


[09-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, on credit cards, I'd need to sign up for something absolutely shitty as a starter.


[09-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like, credit cards offer actual rewards that mean if you always pay them off, you're essentially paid to use them, especially the ones that require a high credit score


[09-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
My debit card is great and all, but it doesn't giv me any kind of rewards


[09-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but virtually everything requires a credit score of some description, or has so many bullshit charges it's a debt trap


[09-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, I've avoided ever being in debt for anything.


[09-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
also, there's online banking now too


[09-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
just requires a smartphone


[09-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
By being financially responsible, I don't hav a history of any kind to prove I'm a good investment other than for debt traps.


[09-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, does it provide you with a credit/debit card?


[09-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that's what the EU thing requires.


[09-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I said before, I think their requirement is designed such that it should exclude people.


[09-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
"While other online institutions are bare-bones banks, Ally Bank has it all: high-yield savings accounts and CDs paying competitive rates and a free, interest-bearing checking account, in addition to credit cards, mortgage loans, auto loans and multiple investment options. Customers can use more than 43,000 Allpoint ATMs for free and can get up to $10 back each statement cycle if money is used on out-of-network ATM fees."


[09-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
my brother uses ally bank


[09-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
I think


[09-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
he got a secured credit card then an actual credit card once they trusted him enough


[09-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing about secured is


[09-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need something of value to secure it with


[09-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
like a home or a pretty decent car


[09-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you own


[09-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
guess what many people in rural areas, especially on welfare where you are *not allowed to own liquidable assets over a certain total* don't hav


[09-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
his debit card was free though I think


[09-Mar-19 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but credit cards come with much stricter pre-requisits than a debit card


[09-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah, you have to have the money to use a debit card


[09-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
you pay off credit cards


[09-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Crow#5457
so you can theoretically rack up as big of a bill as you'd like on your credit card, it doesn't really matter unless you can't pay it off


[09-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Crow#5457
that's why credit debt is so common


[09-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Crow#5457
since people aren't making enough money just to feed and house themselves


[09-Mar-19 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is becoming mroe burdensom because a lot of things are starting to require a credit score of some kind, which mostpeople cant build up because they cant afford a credit card


[09-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
there's an app now which lets you give out interest-free loans to yourself at no cost


[09-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
...does that actually build score?


[09-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure that the big companies that determine if you are worthy of buying a house etc. would not approve.


[09-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.selflender.com/

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Self Lender: Credit Builder Loans Online & Credit Building App
Self Lender's credit builder account can help you build credit and save money at the same time! A credit builder loan is a small installment loan saved in a CD. Credit score monitoring is included in the account so you can track your progress.
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[09-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_deposit

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Certificate of deposit
A certificate of deposit (CD) is a time deposit, a financial product commonly sold in the United States and elsewhere by banks, thrift institutions, and credit unions.
CDs are similar to savings accounts in that they are insured "money in the bank" and thus virtually risk fre...


[09-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/08/uk/fgm-uk-sentencing-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

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Woman jailed for 11 years for performing FGM on her daughter
A judge has sentenced a 37-year-old Ugandan woman to 11 years in jail for performing female genital mutilation (FGM) on her three-year-old daughter, the UK's Press Association (PA) news agency reported.
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[09-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Crow#5457
good


[09-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
now do the same for male genital mutilation


[09-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
>b-but that's anti-semitism!


[09-Mar-19 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't care


[09-Mar-19 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ban the fuck out of it


[09-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision#Judaism

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Religious male circumcision
Religious male circumcision generally occurs shortly after birth, during childhood or around puberty as part of a rite of passage. Circumcision is most prevalent in the religions of Judaism, Islam, Coptic Orthodox Church, Ethiopian Orthodox Church and Eritrean Orthodox Church...


[09-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_male_circumcision#Opposition_within_Judaism>


[09-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
"During the nineteenth and twentieth centuries many Jewish reformers, doctors, and physicians in Central and Eastern Europe proposed to replace circumcision with a symbolic ceremony, while others sought to ban or abolish circumcision entirely, as it was perceived as a dangerous, barbaric and pagan ritual of genital mutilation that could transmit infectious diseases to newborns."


[09-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Crow#5457
even the semites are anti-semites


[09-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't compare the two


[09-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FMG would be the equivalent of snipping off the entire glans


[09-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
it's still a form of genital mutilation


[09-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
the female variant is just even more horrifying


[09-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
there's also variants of FGM which don't remove the clitoris


[09-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
and yet other forms where they seal the vagina closed to make it easier to tell if they're virgin or not


[09-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
and just removing the labia instead of removing the clitoris as well


[09-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Crow#5457
the labia one is the equivalent of male circumcision


[09-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation

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Female genital mutilation
Female genital mutilation (FGM), also known as female genital cutting and female circumcision, is the ritual cutting or removal of some or all of the external female genitalia. The practice is found in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and within communities from countries in...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Campaign_road_sign_against_female_genital_mutilation_%28cropped%29_2.jpg


[09-Mar-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg#%22Warfare_with_passion%22 and then there's this nutburger

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John Harvey Kellogg
John Harvey Kellogg, M.D. (February 26, 1852 – December 14, 1943) was an American medical doctor, nutritionist, inventor, health activist, and businessman. He was the director of the Battle Creek Sanitarium in Battle Creek, Michigan. The sanitarium was founded by members of...
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[09-Mar-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
As a leader of the anti-masturbation movement, Kellogg promoted extreme measures to prevent masturbation. His methods for the "rehabilitation" of masturbators included measures up to the point of mutilation without anesthetic, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying carbolic acid to a young woman's clitoris. In his Plain Facts for Old and Young,[37] he wrote:


[09-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
his brand of cereal was made to be as bland as possible because he thought that bland food made people not have the urge to masturbate


[09-Mar-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude made good cereal though


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
nah, it was bad


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
it was only after he died that they started adding flavor (and sugar) to it


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he made bad cereal that was improved upon by the cpompany after he died


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[09-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Corn Flakes are best without sugar


[09-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
"This idea for corn flakes began by accident when Kellogg and his younger brother, Will Keith Kellogg, left some cooked wheat to sit while they attended to some pressing matters at the sanitarium. When they returned, they found that the wheat had gone stale, but being on a strict budget, they decided to continue to process it by forcing it through rollers, hoping to obtain long sheets of the dough. To their surprise, what they found instead were flakes, which they toasted and served to their patients. This event occurred on August 8, 1894, and a patent for "Flaked Cereals and Process of Preparing Same" was filed on May 31, 1895, and issued on April 14, 1896."


[09-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
the original was literally stale wheat lol


[09-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
>At his new company, Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company, he added sugar to the flakes to make them more palatable to a mass audience, but this caused a rift between his brother and him. In 1907, his same company ran an ad campaign which offered a free box of cereal to any woman who winked at her grocer.


[09-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
fucking shitlords REEEEEE


[09-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_flakes>


[09-Mar-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think before the cornflakes thing their original recipe was just a horrible paste like gruel substance


[09-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You mean oatmeal


[09-Mar-19 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[09-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
even no sugar added corn flakes has 3g of sugar


[09-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's a version of corn flakes with no sugar whatsoever


[09-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
well, other than the version that kellogg thought reduced masturbation


[09-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, corn has sugar


[09-Mar-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
||a method of treatment [to prevent masturbation] ... and we have employed it with entire satisfaction. It consists in the application of one or more silver sutures in such a way as to prevent erection. The prepuce, or foreskin, is drawn forward over the glans, and the needle to which the wire is attached is passed through from one side to the other. After drawing the wire through, the ends are twisted together, and cut off close. It is now impossible for an erection to occur, and the slight irritation thus produced acts as a most powerful means of overcoming the disposition to resort to the practice||- kellogg


[09-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Early days prince albert


[09-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
humanity wouldn't have been able to reach the point we have without masturbation to curb urges


[09-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
we'd be a lot more social, almost needfully so

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[09-Mar-19 01:47 PM] byte[]#2610
:NUT:


[09-Mar-19 02:08 PM] byte[]#2610
> Weaponized, gov't-crafted racism is normally something shokking to people.


[09-Mar-19 02:08 PM] byte[]#2610
It's so normalized that it doesn't even faze me anymore


[09-Mar-19 02:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I expect it


[09-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Crow#5457
literally everyone who pays the slightest attention to the US government realizes this


[09-Mar-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[09-Mar-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/321609-democratic-congressional-candidate-warns-of-militarization-of this was a thing

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Dem congressional candidate warns of 'militarization of space'
A Democratic congressional hopeful from Massachusetts is warning about the dangers of militarizing space, arguing that the moon could become a potential staging ground.
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[09-Mar-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted i;m sure there would be some space weapons by now if they were more feasable with any nations current budget.


[09-Mar-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Mar-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fourth Flag has Come Forth Alleging Trump Groped Her


[09-Mar-19 04:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1104383134529998849?s=21 shut the fuck up

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Border Patrol and Law Enforcement has apprehended (captured) large numbers of illegal immigrants at the Border. They won’t be coming into the U.S. The Wall is being built and will greatly help us in the future, and now!
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[09-Mar-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically they are already in the country, law enforcement brought them in


[09-Mar-19 04:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
"apprehended (captured)"


[09-Mar-19 04:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/jeffreyguterman/status/1104151556943949824?s=21 old but this is a sin

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Li Yang and @realDonaldTrump: https://t.co/PIMTerSZnK

This is the first tweet of a thread that documents photos of Li Yang with Trump and his associates. Please let me know which ones I am missing.
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[09-Mar-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/

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David Corn
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A Florida massage parlor owner has been selling Chinese execs acce...
The strange, swampy saga of Trump donor Li Yang.
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[09-Mar-19 05:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really can't help but feel that someone at MJ was *delighted* to be able to use the word "swampy" in a headline about trump


[09-Mar-19 05:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd79UsXSLWg

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Uh-Oh: Does Donald Trump Know How to Read?
Check out the followup video, even more stunning! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGuJlTVXfw Source deposition video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfaXIL...
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[09-Mar-19 05:31 PM] illumnious#7938

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[09-Mar-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[09-Mar-19 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=6h0CsPlDQ3I

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Nolan Sousley
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Pancreatic cancer marijuana hospital hassle
Stage four pancreatic cancer accused of smoking marijuana in hospital. Missouri. They found no marijuana. Only cbd which is legal in Missouri. I should have ...
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[09-Mar-19 07:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
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[09-Mar-19 08:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why is this invoking poe's law


[09-Mar-19 08:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we shouldn't be at the point where I have to second-guess obvious stuff like this


[09-Mar-19 08:14 PM] illumnious#7938

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[09-Mar-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433342-founder-of-florida-massage-parlor-chain-reportedly-offered-chinese

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Florida spa chain founder advertised access to Trump at Mar-a-Lago...
The founder of a chain of Florida spas recently seen in a Super Bowl selfie with President Trump reportedly advertised access to the president at his Mar-a-Lago resort through a website for her consulting firm.
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[09-Mar-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[09-Mar-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[09-Mar-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-renewable-energy-budget-cuts-3382dc457f20/

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Trump to propose massive renewable energy cuts, something Republic...
His budget request reportedly includes a 70 percent cut to the Office of Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency.
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[09-Mar-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, he;s anti renewable energy


[09-Mar-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost as if half his staff are lobbyists of the dying coal industry


[09-Mar-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
As President Donald Trump prepares his to release his fiscal year 2020 budget request, he is expected to propose massive cuts to the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) renewable energy and energy efficiency budget. This attempt comes despite similar requests being roundly rebuked by Congress in the past two years, and the fact that clean energy remains extremely popular among Republican lawmakers and voters.

“The United States is at the forefront of clean-energy efforts,” Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) wrote Friday in the Washington Post. “We are committed to adopting reasonable policies that maintain that edge, build on and accelerate current efforts, and ensure a robust innovation ecosystem.”


[09-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hoo boy, fun time to be a UK politician https://www.npr.org/2019/03/08/701789508/baby-of-british-isis-woman-stripped-of-citizenship-has-died

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Baby Of British ISIS Woman Stripped Of Citizenship Has Died
Shamima Begum, who was 15 when she fled to Syria in 2015, had been begging to return to the U.K. prior to her son's birth last month, saying she feared for his health. He died of pneumonia.
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[09-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the UK said getting the child to safety would be too hard, cause finding it among all those refugees? Utterly impossible


[09-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
...even as multiple UK news agencies independently found the mother previously with little effort


[09-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That sounds familiar...


[09-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shamima-begum-isis-syria-uk-citizenship-revoked-sajid-javid-home-office-a8787846.html

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Shamima Begum says she's being treated differently 'because I was ...
'My family made it sound like it would be a lot easier for me to come back to the UK, she says
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[09-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's petty


[09-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why in the fuck do we not allow these people back in


[09-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They gave up ISIS allegiance


[09-Mar-19 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
~~child shouldn't had stripped out of citizenship though~~


[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
ANYWAY


[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] ononim#8141
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[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Revenge, Itsthinking.


[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's petty vengeance.


[09-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are a traitor to the west, so your kid dies.


[09-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bomb their families, etc.


[09-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same reason we don't giv a shit when we kill half a village because we thought maybe one guy from it one time met a terrorist.


[09-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those were foreign adolescents, so it doesn't really matter, they probably worshipped some non-Christian god anyways.


[09-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Yuri#4154
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1104159474368024599


[09-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Yuri#4154
...did Trump just accidentally admit to his crimes there?


[09-Mar-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“The only time that Michael Cohen told the truth is when he pled that he is guilty.”  Also when he said no collusion and I did not tell him to lie!”


[09-Mar-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not seeing it


[09-Mar-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kinda surprised he isnt tweeting about how the north korea summit was a huge success that he totally acheived


[09-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Yuri#4154
Isn't Cohen guilty of committing crimes at Trump's direction?


[09-Mar-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[09-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Yuri#4154
So, if Trump admits that he's guilty...


[09-Mar-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh now i see it


[09-Mar-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misread it


[09-Mar-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure trump will tweet out a response later that it isnt an admittance


[09-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“The only time that Michael Cohen told the truth is when he pled that he is guilty.”  Also when he said "no collusion and [that] I did not tell him to lie!”'


[09-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No admission here, cause the guilty pleas weren't to conspiring with Trump etc., just to himself commiting fraud


[09-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump messed up the quotation marks bad here


[09-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's at best paraphrasing and probably the more proper fix is to not use quotes


[09-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The that in brakkets is necessary regardless.


[09-Mar-19 11:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1104506943887065089?s=21

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[09-Mar-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
NO COLLUSION! YAHTZEE MOUSE TRAP!


[09-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump told Cohen to fucking commit a crime


[09-Mar-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed


[09-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just the spineless GOP tamping this down when they will deeply, deeply regret it in 10 years when liberal Trump is in power


[09-Mar-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[09-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The pendulum will swing far left


[09-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of building a wall it will be UBI or something


[09-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And really hammering in the urban/rural divide to appeal to the former by making fun of/being critical of the latter.


[09-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think we have more than enough witches for a coven.


[09-Mar-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump being president has opened more than afew flood gates for future presidents


[09-Mar-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s really fuckign stupid


[09-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Need a liberal celebrity president


[09-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or one that gives no fucks and openly tells his opposition to fuck off


[09-Mar-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just have a president who isnt a known celebrity?


[09-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want a hyper rude one


[09-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even worse than Trump


[09-Mar-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think that would kill us


[09-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who tells everyone to fuck off and eat shit


[09-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"What are you gonna do, nuke us?"


[09-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"lol kys Putin"


[09-Mar-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we need a scottish president?


[09-Mar-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly at this pint it could only help


[09-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone who completely rejects all forms of being normal or polite


[09-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Calls leaders of countries he dislikes dictators etc


[09-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who responds to Bolsonaro by urinating on someone impersonating Bolsonaro


[09-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone who swears so much that people complain that kids watch the president


[09-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Telling him that watersports should be celebrated


[09-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That he wants gay scat sex dungeons


[09-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then they say "Fuck off I'm president, if anything I should be an inspiration"


[09-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're going to be tactless and rude go all the way.


[09-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d take that over trump honestly


[09-Mar-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just soemone who meets with putin and then calls him a 20 second long insult while shaking his hand


[09-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, one day he gets sent a bill to bolster border security


[09-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
he vetos it immediately and says that border patrol is on vacation until further notice.


[09-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Calls in a press conference where everyone thinks they will sign the bill


[09-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rips it up, walks out without comment


[09-Mar-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[09-Mar-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[09-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ooh like you know how Trump calls into fox


[09-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe tells him he shouldn't let a Syrian in cause she supported IS, he arranges a press conference when she comes in to port and they do a fortnite dance naked on live TV broadcast on Fox News


[09-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine this guy calling into Fox if dem or CNN if GOP and just shitposting


[09-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And insulting them


[09-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They then start playing Fortnite, still naked, smoking weed


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News meanwhile has been strongarmed to show it, uncensored, live


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of this is why we need you know


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An amendment to remove the president who hasn't committed a crime


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Incompetence is enough for removal


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, as hilarious as it'd be


[09-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it'd completely destroy political influence and not solve any problems.


[09-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Vote for me or I cut your balls off


[09-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
One day the NRA asks him how he feels about guns


[09-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
he says that he's already shipping them to blakk neighborhoods


[09-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone over the age of 18 without ID will receive one no questions asked, as his official campaign to end racism.


[09-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Openly harassing SCOTUS judges until they resign


[09-Mar-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt trump already try that?


[09-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah just spreading rumors RBG is dead


[09-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like saying "You're a fraud, Gorsuch. Resign"


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine a president who tells the FBI to find *anything they can* on Kavanaugh


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically any other president who isnt trump?


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then gets metoo to never let Kavanaugh into a restaurant again


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, literally any time he's going to a public place, line of people


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
police ordered to help them


[09-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/a-florida-massage-parlor-owner-has-been-selling-chinese-execs-access-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago/

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A Florida massage parlor owner has been selling Chinese execs acce...
The strange, swampy saga of Trump donor Li Yang.
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/cindy-yang-donald-trump-03082019.jpg?w=1200&h=630&crop=1


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like the Brock Turner shit


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy can't even use the toilet outside his own home


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just imagien this imaginary president with a scottish accent


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She is a _sex trafficker_


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And probably a Chinese government agent


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh msot definatly


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that Kavanaugh should be treated as a blakk person


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then Kavanaugh gets shot by one


[09-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she sold him and chinese executives prostitutes


[09-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the chances we see Mueller reveal Trump had sex with pubescent teens is higher than 30%


[09-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See my base thought is


[09-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a little too much sex traffikking around him.


[09-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller would not have gone on this long unless he really found something.


[09-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would have ended in six months. He isn't the kind of guy to waste time.


[09-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think a year is reasonable even with just the Russia conspiracy and obstruction


[09-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
what's odd tho is how slow people are being put on trial


[09-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has likely even traveled to other countries to sex underage girls


[09-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the relatively tame charges they're facing, even after they lie


[09-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It suggests that they're feeding Mueller very juicy information.


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
intexda, we know he was pissed on by Russian prostitutes and that Putin has that as blakkmail


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
just watersports and prostitution alone would never sink Trump


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically had scandals like that already


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking syria but that too


[09-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
*how old were those prostitutes?*


[09-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could be looking at a world where R Kelly *did* pee on those girls, and Trump got peed on by *younger* ones.


[09-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Any Trump associate when they get put on trial and get worried:


[09-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/p69XxYjfx-k

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Dude902
https://youtu.be/p69XxYjfx-k
Wait a minute...
I'm white! Thanks for the insight, Boondocks. No offense to any of my brothas and sistas.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p69XxYjfx-k/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
47 months for Manafort


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
I get the judge's argument, I really do


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So you think the Steele memo was true?


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but ffs


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are the lines connecting or something?


[09-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Russia has kompromat but not that.


[09-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Russia has other kompromat on top of that


[09-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FBI took the Steele memo very seriously


[09-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One time Trump asked for a prostitute and a gorilla suit and got upset at the quality of the gorilla suit.


[09-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
They found something else that indicated it was true


[09-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is very likely that this is the crux of Mueller's investigation


[09-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause the wikileaks thing and the obstruction of justice are incredibly straightforward


[09-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You realize even if the connection is definitive and he is proven to have done terrible shit


[09-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump and Russia are involved in some way that requires a lot of careful analysis of the facts as well


[09-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP will do nothing because his base will force them not to


[09-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not all of the GOP could stomach their leader fukking kids


[09-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe two thirds could


[09-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
but two thirds is a losing proposition.


[09-Mar-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not tomention if they try to defend pedophilia then their ship sinks anyway because thye becoem the party of pedophilia


[09-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well sure, but that's only relevant cause of independents


[09-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents couldn't stomach a president who fukks kids


[09-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They support anything other than a solid 18 marriage age


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems could probably only stomach a Dem leader being a child rapist by about 40%


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could do it with their leader by 60% or so


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think any marriage should be allowed under 18, no exceptions


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents, maybe 20%


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The weird thing is, the "if it makes liberals mad" logic is a blank check to make *any* behavior acceptable


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Authority before reason.


[10-Mar-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatley true


[10-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think setting everything to 18 with no exceptions is foolish and impractical, Its.


[10-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be perpetually raising the damn bar on people being able to make any kind of decision.


[10-Mar-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP is beign run by power mad monsters who look at politics as carte blanche to do whatever the fuck thye want with no consequences


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual problem with child marriages in the US is that kids are forced into them by parents


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with lobby money backign them


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
not that kids are forced to be with abusive adults like in the middle east


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you need to do is make parents control their kids less


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
there should be a maximum voting age


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
one cannot have a stake in the future if one is not going to live in it


[10-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause even if you set everything to 18, Its


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are now living with their parents until like 40


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
at least young people are going to live in the shithole future boomers vote in


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means de facto parents control adult offspring


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can confirm


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means you'll just hav the same "YOU MUST MARRY THIS PERSON AND NOONE ELSE" but at a later age


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
less the controlling angle,but yeah


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, where do you define the age at which you are no longer eligible to vote without impacting the representation of senior citizens


[10-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if they control your housing, they control you.


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wing, I think there's a broader issue nobody wants to talk about


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's that set age mins and maxes always inevitably cause collateral damage because people who ARE able to make the decision aren't allowed to


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Senior citizens are going to die soon


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
they have no stake in the future of the planet


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wait slow down


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but people that AREN'T may also be allowed to


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, that's kind of my point, Nebbie


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody wants to like


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
test people's mental abilities


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
they'd sooner let the planet die for their short-term gain


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
just as they are now


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How have we gone to "russkies have pedo proof on trump"


[10-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
not even for a damn driver's license at 90+


[10-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument from Its is Mueller has taken too long


[10-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
further, I argue that there's a little too much suspect prostitute activity around Trump


[10-Mar-19 12:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
it could be argued if one has children when older they have a stake in the future because they give a shit about their children perhaps, but once again, older population has no stake in the future


[10-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
which often doesn't respect ages


[10-Mar-19 12:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
they can burn the planet for short term comforts


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
just as they are right now.


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's anywhere near certain, I'd put the odds at 40% that Mueller reveals Trump fukked some kids


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a leap


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Plus everything we know still supports the steele dossier, the "pee tapes" being the one big thing missing


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he just likes choking them out


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Within that 40% is perhaps a 50% that it's the pee tape


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That isn't my argument @Nebbie


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mine is


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller has something or he wouldn't have taken this long.


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not a guy to chase nothing


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah the reason that no one wants to test mental ability for voting is because there have been "literacy" tests for voting specifically to keep black people out


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ok but WHAT would take him this long?


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it ain't Wikileaks


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it ain't obstruction


[10-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's thorough.


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is really saying something because by comparison to Watergate, Mueller is powering through this investigation


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it might not even be conspiracy with Russia


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good point, Honahue


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very hard to ensure tests are accurate and independent


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's probably obstruction.


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely not


[10-Mar-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if I had to hazard a guess, it'd be getting irrefutable, corroborated evidence not just on Trump but on everyone poised to benefit from his fall


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction could literally be proven with his tweets alone


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is crime boss stuff


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction only requires admitting to intentionally trying to throw off the law


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which he has done so more than once on Twitter


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The SDNY thing attempting to get Whitaker to get a guy to unrecuse himself


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were obstruction, Mueller would've been done 6 months ago


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That is obstruction


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Honahue#0656
as for drivers licencing though I think Germany requires recertification every so often


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meuller is taking the cleansing fire approach


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mueller's been eating some pretty big fish lately but there are still bigger ones out there


[10-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Mueller is doing slow rollup but like


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is indeed slowing it down


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now he;s gathering his fuel and material


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
but America has shit for public transport so losing a drivers license could trap you in your house


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in the south


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my town has zero public transport except for disabled people


[10-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obligatory "some blakk people hav indeed fallen victim to that"


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it's America, everything leads to racism.


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and school busses


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but school busses dotn really count


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana's a little odd


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
somehow the Republicans here aren't as hostile to public transport


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the more liberal areas like where I am end up with free bus service


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised either if he's got this in the bag and is just waiting to see what other parties fall out and incriminate themselves as he slowly topples the tower


[10-Mar-19 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A self driving car that costs under $30k


[10-Mar-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A new Model T that can replace public transport and allow all of these new drivers


[10-Mar-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the problems for public transport infrustructure is the auto industry, and the air port industry


[10-Mar-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Is Montana like Far Cry 5


[10-Mar-19 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
it won't replace public transport it's way less efficent


[10-Mar-19 12:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The dumb thing about public transportation is that the same state folks who won't maintain busses and sidewalks are also investing millions of dollars into researching whether hyperloop (which doesn't even exist commercially yet) is a viable plan


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everytime a new high scpeed rainway is concocted these 2 industries band together to stop the evil mosnter form taking business


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
a self driving car still occupies the same amount of space as a dumb car


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, that's Idaho, @Itsthinking


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana is like rural California


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
a bus or train holds like 20 cars worth of people


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
most cars only have 1 person in them


[10-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
except with a bit of Canada added on to make it really fukking cold


[10-Mar-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sidewalks are pretty much vanished in places to expland roads for more cars


[10-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You won't find any actual physically-organized hate groups here


[10-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's scummy people who left the South cause it had too many blakks in it


[10-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they're usually druggies that stand out as being not the sort you want to hang around


[10-Mar-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are more black people thna white poeple here


[10-Mar-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie do you guys hate random people from urban areas that go to MT to "connect with nature" like Alaskans do


[10-Mar-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/06/health/vaccine-exemption-bills-across-us-trnd/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F

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Even with measles outbreaks across the US, at least 20 states have...
Why is this happening? Especially when the record shows that no state has successfully passed legislation expanding non-medical exemptions for vaccinations since 2003?
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/110930214806-parents-doubt-vaccine-syringes-super-tease.jpg


[10-Mar-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Californians buy homes here in places that are like, just off the highway and 30 miles from any cities


[10-Mar-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Come winter, those homes end up up for sale


[10-Mar-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[10-Mar-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking like


[10-Mar-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
100 square meters of glass windows at the front of a mcmansion


[10-Mar-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
in weather so cold that Fahrenheit and Celsius converge


[10-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good way to lose your life savings on a heating and grocery bill


[10-Mar-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like seeing ships in sci fi where the entire front is glass and you're pretty sure one missile would ruin many people's days.


[10-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana is not a place where homes should be 20% windows.


[10-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, the elementary school near me only has glass on the inside except for the door slits


[10-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, it'll be -10 F by 9 PM tonite, according to the forecast


[10-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The snowdrifts are slowly shrinking down from a max of about 6 feet to only 4, at least.


[10-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
People from California tell me that 56 F is cold and I tell them that it hasn't been that warm for 6 months.


[10-Mar-19 12:35 AM] ononim#8141
>max voting age


[10-Mar-19 12:35 AM] ononim#8141
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


[10-Mar-19 12:35 AM] ononim#8141
bad praxis


[10-Mar-19 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
honestly there's literally no reason why self driving cars shouldn't be publically owned and just self-drive to those that request it with an app for free if they're first in the queue


[10-Mar-19 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
although self-driving busses are the real chad move


[10-Mar-19 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
and self-driving trains and trams are pretty simplistic, trains after all only can go in the two directions


[10-Mar-19 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine owning a car


[10-Mar-19 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
made by public transport gang


[10-Mar-19 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
also literally all mansions should be a breach of code and be nationalized and subdivided into appartments


[10-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
obviously you want to make everyone equally poor and slaves to the government overlords


[10-Mar-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1104487908621336580?s=19

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https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1104487908621336580?s=19
Milo Yiannopoulos, now more than $2 million in debt, has resorted to auctioning stuff on Instagram.
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[10-Mar-19 01:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. I would have figured someone of his caliber would have been rich


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said something pedo-related I think


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Drowning yourself in debt due to frivolous consumerism to own the libs 😎


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
he was rich


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
he's not now


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and got financially torn to pieces because all he had to rely on was his fame


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yee


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was then ruined.


[10-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
rich people are insane


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Conservative celebrity" isn't a very durable job


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh right. Rich people don't work. 🙃


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/21/milo-yiannopoulos-resigns-breitbart-pedophilia-comments

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/21/milo-yiannopoulos-resigns-breitbart-pedophilia-comments
Milo Yiannopoulos resigns from Breitbart News over pedophilia remarks
The rightwing provocateur stepped down after a livestream resurfaced in which he appeared to endorse sex between ‘younger boys’ and older men
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a2c48fff23dee35f2300462b0d681f8a7aac4efa/0_23_4193_2517/master/4193.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=4661cf75be433b36465c4461df8a7805


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh he did work


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah as soon as you become a liability to conservatives, they ditch you


[10-Mar-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe i'm wrong tho, if Rush Limbaugh is to be pointed at


[10-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Yiannopoulos said the age of consent was “not this black-and-white thing” and that relationships “between younger boys and older men … can be hugely positive experiences”.
He went on to suggest that sex between “younger boys” and older men could be a “coming-of-age relationship … in which those older men help those younger boys discover who they are”.'


[10-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he argued for the Ancient Greek way of teaching little boys the ropes.


[10-Mar-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yiannopoulos is a Greek name. COINCIDENCE???


[10-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was at the time the star "look look, conservatives can be okay with being gay!" guy


[10-Mar-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking log cabin republicans


[10-Mar-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in today's society, anything other than saying we should adhere to puritan ideals with regards to kids gets you lynched


[10-Mar-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is a horrible person, but that he was thrown out for *this* is crazy.


[10-Mar-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he said some pretty horrible shit.


[10-Mar-19 01:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~Funny because fictional kids currently have more rights than actual kids~~


[10-Mar-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was downright abusive on twitter, and believed death threats were morally the right way to go


[10-Mar-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they permabanned him a few years bakk


[10-Mar-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conservatives are fine with all of that


[10-Mar-19 02:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That was a hilarious time


[10-Mar-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
then one day you start waxing philosophical about some brokebakk mountain shit and you're ejected at escape velocity.


[10-Mar-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Milo married a blakk guy.


[10-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the ultimate source of both N and F word passes.


[10-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
How can conservatives be racist and homophobic if their star guy is out taking blakk dikk etc.?


[10-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kinda lukky that he in particular got burned.


[10-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
speaking of pedophilia that retarded ass "documentary" of MJ Leaving Neverland, so obviously biased, MJ was a bit weird but he was never a pedo


[10-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was blakk and he acted as a bridge between cultures


[10-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in the best interests of many that he be thoroughly defamed posthumously.


[10-Mar-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really sad everything in America breaks down into race and sexuality one way or the other


[10-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
MJ wasn't even into dudes lol


[10-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they want to say he was into little dudes, to defame him cause he was blakk and made people lust after him as a blakk person.


[10-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, studies hav shown that pedophilia has separate gender preferences


[10-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can be into adult girls and young boys and not young girls or adult boys


[10-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
as far as we can tell, there was nothing psychologically damaging about underage people who participate in legal, non-abusive sexual contact like the pederasty of ancient greece (japan also had something similar at one point too, but was discouraged and eventually outlawed during the meiji period of westernization)


[10-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's only when it becomes secretive that it starts causing psychological problems


[10-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
and obviously it's easier to be abusive when it's in secret as well


[10-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And laws against make it more secretive, but conservatives never want to admit that strict laws pushing things underground are bad.


[10-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
and now there's a giant fucking black market of massive assholes who sexually coerce and assault kids for entertainment


[10-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget how prostitution laws interplay with this


[10-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, it's a lot harder to report that kids are being traffikked if you'd hav to admit that you're a CRIMINAL because you dared to pay for sex.


[10-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the same reasons, prostitutes get utterly messed up in America


[10-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
in general


[10-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically aren't given protection by police.


[10-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you mix drug deals into the prostitution too


[10-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyone who snitches could get the book thrown at them despite snitching.


[10-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means things inevitable balloon occassionally and you hav a full-on drug and pedo rape ring with hundreds of people before it's finally taken down


[10-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is...not great for society.


[10-Mar-19 02:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup, you can be arrested for reporting child trafficking AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN TRAFFICKED


[10-Mar-19 02:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
fan-fucking-tastic


[10-Mar-19 02:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
this applies to sex trafficking in general


[10-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's great is the federal drug law


[10-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says you can get like no charges if you snitch on someone else, but ONLY for drugs


[10-Mar-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
if two people both dealt drugs and snitch on each other, they can both get of scot-free


[10-Mar-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if a third person gets involved and isn't able to properly snitch when they come to snitch


[10-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they just alert police to it and then reveal that they did a ton of drugs


[10-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can end up in jail


[10-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
while the other people get away free


[10-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is you hav to hav just the right mix of knowledge about the crimes vs. crimes you committed for you to actually be protected when you come forward.


[10-Mar-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the moment you didn't ask for an ID on that prostitute, well, you're basically never gonna get protection on that one, so it's absolutely not worth it.


[10-Mar-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ensuring that once people get involved, they *stay* involved.


[10-Mar-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservatives dont care what illegal shit goes down, they only care that it appears on the surface level. as long as it's hidden and out of sight  they couldn;t give any fucks especially if it;s religious bullshit or sex trafficing related.


[10-Mar-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye can purge it from the surface that's all that matters


[10-Mar-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many abortions these pro-lifers have forced their wives and daughters to go through to keep a sparkly clean image


[10-Mar-19 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
Attack the symptom and not the source and you just keep getting the problem


[10-Mar-19 02:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
Noone higher up seems concerned with addressing poverty meaningfully


[10-Mar-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as they purge it formt he surface


[10-Mar-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mainly just keep it out of the media and  ther's nothing wrogn with the world


[10-Mar-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Elites dont care about the problems, they jsut dont want mud on their fancy white elf shoes


[10-Mar-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is no exception but he;s an idiot who entered a race he never wanted to win despite having a criminal history 3 miles long with mafia style tactics hiding it all


[10-Mar-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
turns out it;s a lot harder to hide that shit as president


[10-Mar-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mediaite.com/online/trumps-defense-department-reportedly-blew-4-6-million-on-lobster-tails-and-crab-in-one-month/

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Trump’s Defense Department Reportedly Blew $4.6 Million on Lobst...
"In the final month of the fiscal year, federal agencies scramble to spend what’s left in their annual budget; agencies worry spending less than their budget allows might prompt Congress to appropriate less money in the next fiscal year."
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Donald-Trump-via-CBS-e1547483867598.jpg


[10-Mar-19 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRcYcyWT798

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ERASING Michael Jackson, UNPERSONING Is HERE And Is Getting WORSE
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[10-Mar-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck that documentary


[10-Mar-19 02:50 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@prism stryder(intexda) why are people getting rid of MJ?


[10-Mar-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
because a new documentary came out outlining all the accusations against michael jackson over the years


[10-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/8n6QJR-9bWI

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WasMJAPedo???
https://youtu.be/8n6QJR-9bWI
Evan Chandler's Secret Recording on Michael Jackson in 1993
Evan Chandler's Secret Recording on Michael Jackson released in 1993 Was this a tale of extortion? You be the judge.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8n6QJR-9bWI/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with new ones from people who when MJ was alive said he didn't do nuffin' to 'em


[10-Mar-19 02:51 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Could be fake idk


[10-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
and since he's a dead man, he can't sue them for defamation


[10-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
his estate is though


[10-Mar-19 02:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
doesn't mean they can't ban his songs


[10-Mar-19 02:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Been growing up with his songs when puberty hit me


[10-Mar-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who made this documentary are money hungry cowards of the worst kind


[10-Mar-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
idk if any living family has the legal ability to sue on his behalf, or if they even have the resources to do so


[10-Mar-19 02:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Paris Jackson tho


[10-Mar-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/paris-jackson-defends-michael-jackson/

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Alex Young
https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/paris-jackson-defends-michael-jackson/
Paris Jackson defends father Michael Jackson: “chillax my dudes”
The new documentary Leaving Neverland has brought renewed scrutiny to Michael Jackson’s past relationships with underage boys and allegations of sexual misconduct.
https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/paris-jackson-and-michael-jackson.jpg?quality=80


[10-Mar-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Jackson initially tweeted, “y’all take my life more seriously than i do. calm yo tittaaaaysss.” After receiving some blowback for the flippant nature of her comment, she sought to expound on her stance: “i didn’t mean to offend by expressing that titties should be calm, i know injustices are frustrating and it’s easy to get worked up. but reacting with a calm mind usually is more logical than acting out of rage and also…. it feels better to mellow out.” She added, “smoke some weed n think about the bigger picture. chillax my dudes.”


[10-Mar-19 04:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551569528241520674/554061757660921887/image0.jpg

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[10-Mar-19 04:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/03/08/youtube-will-soon-tell-you-that-the-world-isnt-flat-vaccines-work-and-other-obvious-truths/
How soon before YouTube employs fact checking to political vids

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YouTube will soon tell you that the world isn't flat, vaccines wor...
According to BuzzFeed, YouTube is testing out a new feature which shows fact-check warnings when searching for content known to spread misinformation. The... by Ryne Hager in News
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[10-Mar-19 04:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So long as it's YT modding it, i'll remain either concerned or uncaring


[10-Mar-19 04:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Given how YT staff works, they'll probably only apply "fake news" warnings to vids that have been reported thousands if not millions of times


[10-Mar-19 04:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're a lazy bunch


[10-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
FB tried that for a bit


[10-Mar-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
turns out, marking things fake news just makes people get angry that your LIBERAL ILLUMINATI are trying to hide that VACCINES CAUSE GAY AUTISM


[10-Mar-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The new strategy is to put articles from more trusted sources alongside the fake shit


[10-Mar-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that people are more subtly influenced away from absolute bullshit.


[10-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/433355-covington-teenager-planning-to-sue-cnn-for-at-least-250m-lawyer-says

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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/433355-covington-teenager-planning-to-sue-cnn-for-at-least-250m-lawyer-says
Covington teenager planning to sue CNN for at least $250M, lawyer says
A lawyer representing Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann said in a new Fox News interview that Sandmann plans to sue CNN for at least $250 million. L.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cnn_122117gn_lead_0.jpg


[10-Mar-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually we'll have the same shit libel laws as the UK and a media that does nothing out of fear of SLAPPs like this.


[10-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What part of his reputation has been damaged? He'll be a talking head on Fox in two years. He's basically a martyr for the right.


[10-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a conservative


[10-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
winning the suit isn't the goal


[10-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
getting people mad at CNN is


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suit gets thrown out? LIBRAL JUDGE FAVORING CNN OMUHGAWD


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bringing libel suits now just makes you look butthurt now.


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really does


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suit ends with a $10k settlement? LIBRAL JUDGE FAVORING CNN


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
$1M? GOOD JUDGE FUKK CNN


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless someone calls you a pedo on live TV


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or says you raped someone


[10-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You will look super butthurt


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives only think it's "butthurt" when it's liberals


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And even Musk's propensity for calling anyone who doesn't like his usual "stuff humans into tubes" method of solving everything pedos doesn't lead to a suit


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone on the left starts going WAAAH I GOT DEATH THREATS


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they say GOOD


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if it's on the right


[10-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they start putting out money to sue


[10-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Death threats online are questionable


[10-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also these are people who fucking wished death on Hogg and shit


[10-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo fucking hoo, he didn't sue anyone.


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Written death threats by letter, it doesn't matter to conservatives


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize this is an actual strategy


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell the left they aren't allowed to complain


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
then complain when it happens to them


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I've seen it


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the vulnerability they're exploiting is that the left cares about hurting people


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing the left ever can complain about is valid


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the right *doesn't*


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no pleasing the right even if you give them an equal space


[10-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
by their very nature, the left cares for others and the right doesn't.


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But also, the left is disorganized, the right organized


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the left can fight itself, the right must unite


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Left needs to be like the right in that way


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It never will be.


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It needs "follow the party or leave"


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left can't do what the right does while being the left.


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would just become part of the right.


[10-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if at first it had a different party line


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would spend influence to absorb its leadership


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let me just say this


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sandmann: poor doxed kid


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resulting in one megaparty vs. the scattered remnants of the left


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trayvon Martin: dumb adult "thug"


[10-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember, white people are kids until 30 but minorities are adults at like 10


[10-Mar-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We do have seemingly organized, united, malicious minded leftists


[10-Mar-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're called tankies


[10-Mar-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those don't agree on like anything with the rest of the left tho


[10-Mar-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're just communists


[10-Mar-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extremely conservative communists.


[10-Mar-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The exact enemies of libertarians.


[10-Mar-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
PROLETARIAT CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think if Sanders wins the nomination he'll win in 2020.


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's still super popular and charismatic


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's slightly too old now.


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick Beto or Harris or something then


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As his VP


[10-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone would be spreading memes about how he'll hav a stroke in office


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Please


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We can keep people alive for a long time.


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Especially RUssia)


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but 30 minutes is all it takes


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if he gets brain cancer, that's it.


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So then have a young VP.


[10-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the young VP needs to hav exactly the same ideals


[10-Mar-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure if a president dies of brain cancer in office the young VP will pull an LBJ and wave what they wanted passed through.


[10-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You really think the Civil Rights Act was passed over anything but JFK's dead body?


[10-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
JFK dying was a good thing.


[10-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, that's the problem


[10-Mar-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone will know Bernie can't make it two terms


[10-Mar-19 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah... he needs a good VP


[10-Mar-19 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Otherwise we get Dilma Rousseff 2: Brazilian Boogaloo


[10-Mar-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, how does that apply to the collectivism of the "successful left movements"?


[10-Mar-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately sad that it's a strategy to consider but


[10-Mar-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't that bad.


[10-Mar-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left can band together sporadically


[10-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR and china were/are really big on collectivism to get things done


[10-Mar-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
china's still technically socialist and owns every company within their borders, but they've let state capitalism in so that they can properly compete with the rest of the world in a somewhat unfair way


[10-Mar-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
but china's still really big on collectivism


[10-Mar-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
even as its current form of collectivism drives people to suicide (same thing is happening in japan, but they don't have a billion fucking people to prop up their economy with)


[10-Mar-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those aren't successful left movements


[10-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're just countries where the ones in power chose a different economic system


[10-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
An even more horrible one where corruption is everything


[10-Mar-19 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Mikey#7286
wut


[10-Mar-19 06:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1104503216111321089

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1104503216111321089
Wacky Nut Job @AnnCoulter, who still hasn’t figured out that, despite all odds and an entire Democrat Party of Far Left Radicals against me (not to mention certain Republicans who are sadly unwilling to fight), I am winning on the Border. Major sections of Wall are being...
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[10-Mar-19 06:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
trump grew the tiniest backbone today


[10-Mar-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism, Mikey


[10-Mar-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you make it so your workers aren't allowed rights, you don't need to provide them things.


[10-Mar-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Lmao he actually called coulter a nutjob


[10-Mar-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
she is


[10-Mar-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey so, I chekked the actual story


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump's administration isn't harshly pursuing the guy


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the Boston police and the company are trying to deny that they had the whole thing setup in advance


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
this wasn't "we called the police when he fell off a ladder"


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They fukking arranged a meeting and everything


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and told police to get him on the way out of the meeting


[10-Mar-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
when he was asking for his money


[10-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They trapped him.


[10-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
All because he actually pursued worker's comp


[10-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're gonna get fukking demolished in court


[10-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the department of labor even under Trump doesn't think this is okay


[10-Mar-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the guy right now has temoporary work authorization


[10-Mar-19 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
which company?


[10-Mar-19 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
random contractor #435?


[10-Mar-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/03/06/boston-truly-looking-out-for-immigrants-not-this-case/YgAvgeue6fYZxC7h3wJJ9J/story.html

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Is Boston truly looking out for immigrants? Not in this case. - Th...
Something is seriously amiss if the Trump administration protects the rights of an undocumented worker better than the city of Boston does. Yet that conclusion is hard to avoid if one believes a federal Department of Labor complaint filed last week.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/rf/image_585w/Boston/2011-2020/2018/10/15/BostonGlobe.com/Metro/Images/Rinaldi16immigrant02.jpg


[10-Mar-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tara Construction


[10-Mar-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
pretty much


[10-Mar-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie did you see the video above with the police officers harassing the cancer patient?


[10-Mar-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[10-Mar-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/6h0CsPlDQ3I

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Nolan Sousley
https://youtu.be/6h0CsPlDQ3I
Pancreatic cancer marijuana hospital hassle
Stage four pancreatic cancer accused of smoking marijuana in hospital. Missouri. They found no marijuana. Only cbd which is legal in Missouri. I should have ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6h0CsPlDQ3I/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Mar-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[10-Mar-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
briefly looked at it, didn't feel like actually watching the whole vid


[10-Mar-19 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVBKUWWhjI

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVBKUWWhjI
Democrats Vote To DEFEND Non-Citizen Voting In Local Elections
Democrats Vote To DEFEND Non-Citizen Voting In Local Elections. Dan Crenshaw sought to reaffirm a bill stating that only US citizens can vote in elections in...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ywVBKUWWhjI/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Mar-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just giv me the fukking sources


[10-Mar-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not this talking head


[10-Mar-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, the sources are not in the description


[10-Mar-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But how will you carry the right opinion if you might form your own?


[10-Mar-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Think about it, Nebbie


[10-Mar-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like it's this https://www.kusi.com/house-passes-h-r-1-an-anti-corruption-and-voting-rights-bill/

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House passes H.R. 1, an anti-corruption and voting rights bill -
SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – The House passed of the For The People Act (H.R.1) Friday, a bill designed to improve election integrity by focusing on voting and election laws, campaign finance, and ethics. The bill also defends localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their...
https://images.kusi.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/voting3.jpg


[10-Mar-19 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're all too stupid and simple to properly understand the news


[10-Mar-19 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We need leaders of free thought to digest it for us


[10-Mar-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait no, it's slightly different


[10-Mar-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's Republicans trying to pass a bill, not stop a Democratic one


[10-Mar-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
_grumbles as he trudges thru Fox News to find wtf is at issue_


[10-Mar-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see


[10-Mar-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans were trying to put an amendment on the Democratic bill


[10-Mar-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was trying to stop San Francisco from allowing illegals to vote in local elections


[10-Mar-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[10-Mar-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was an attempt to go at sanctuary cities that were actually letting everyone effected by city services vote on how those services are done or funded


[10-Mar-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, to be clear


[10-Mar-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans were saying that, while technically cities may be required to treat immigrants as actual people and not literally piles of trash


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
giving them some extra rights so that they could influence how the city treats them


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
is FUKKING EVIL HOW DARE YOU LET THESE PEOPLE HAV A SAY


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, @Sunnyside


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk Den Cranshaw


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk his entire party to death.


[10-Mar-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are evil people and they should not hav supported this amendment to the bill.


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cities should be allowed to expand voting rights for city matters.


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In yurop legal residents can always vote for local elections


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just not national ones


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The federal gov't should not be able to tell cities they can't listen to all of their population.


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a city matter, not a federal matter.


[10-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as a technical matter


[10-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but how would a illegal immigrant be a legal resident tea?


[10-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
states rights stop at pantone charts


[10-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is nothing in the constitution that says non-citizens cannot get the right to vote, it is just not required to be given to them.


[10-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just wonder how you define it


[10-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
TSP, this refers to "illegal" residents, note.


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they're paying taxes they should be deemed legal


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but they aren't


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sales tax is a thing


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a technical matter, in the US, cities generally are required to giv services even to those who don't pay taxes


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't not clear a street of snow because that guy hasn't paid property tax, usually.


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so everyone that buys food should be allowed to vote?


[10-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably.


[10-Mar-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, if the city is funded by them buying food with a tax on it


[10-Mar-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they should probably be able to decide how that money is spent.


[10-Mar-19 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're paying taxes citizens benefit from while doing jobs "proper citizens" don't want to do


[10-Mar-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The federal gov't can deport them if it wants


[10-Mar-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but cities are under NO obligation to enforce federal law


[10-Mar-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't hav to help deport them, they don't hav to help find them, and they don't hav to not listen to them about how their money should be spent.


[10-Mar-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a very, very important constitutional matter.


[10-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you break this, you break the entire theory of how local vs. federal works


[10-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then the federal gov't can just plain ban all guns


[10-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and go around resettling people to mix the races


[10-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it can then not allow conservative groups on campuses etc.


[10-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think you want that.


[10-Mar-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be a 1984 nightmare, in the end.


[10-Mar-19 07:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you know what happened the last time a state or city felt they were under no obligation to follow federal law? that national guard was nationalized by the president to enforce it.


[10-Mar-19 07:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine
So by your argument should the state of Arkansas and the city of Little Rock been allowed to ignore federal law? since as you say they are under no obligation to enforce it?

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Little Rock Nine
The Little Rock Nine was a group of nine African American students enrolled in Little Rock Central High School in 1957. Their enrollment was followed by the Little Rock Crisis, in which the students were initially prevented from entering the racially segregated school by Orva...
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[10-Mar-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think you understand how the constitution works


[10-Mar-19 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
SCOTUS issued a court order for the schools to integrate


[10-Mar-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local gov't cannot ignore that which is mandated by the constitution


[10-Mar-19 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
There is no such order for states to comply with federal law in this case


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The constitution is the supreme law of the land, and where local gov't derives its power


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If SCOTUS tells your state to do a thing based on the US constitution


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
As a state, you don't have to do what the feds say, but you have to do what a federal court tells you to


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The federal gov't can and will march troops in.


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because if you aren't following the constitution


[10-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are in rebellion.


[10-Mar-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS has found racial segregation by law to be in violation of the 14th amendment.


[10-Mar-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, to be clear, you don't hav to help congress enforce whatever rules it comes up with, and they can't force you to hav particular rules (and SCOTUS has supported this, quite recently, in the case of sports betting)


[10-Mar-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you absolutely hav to do what SCOTUS tells you.


[10-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So scotus is the supreme authority then?


[10-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally in their fukking name


[10-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The **Supreme** Court of the United States


[10-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the way you make it sound they should be the one's ruling the country


[10-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They pretty much are tho


[10-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's their job....


[10-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are literally the people who can tell Trump and congress and you and the state of georgia to DOTHIS THING OR WE PUT YOU IN JAIL


[10-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a reason such a fuss is made every time a president appoints a SCOTUS justice


[10-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They serve for life, note.


[10-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire basis of the US' system of government is that power lies in the hands of three different branches that can do stuff against the other in case one is messing up


[10-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the Judiciary branch is the most powerful


[10-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it's not elected, it's appointed by those who are elected


[10-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I always felt like life terms were too long. maybe 30 years but for life seems weird.


[10-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're normally put in there at like 30+ anyways so life vs. 30 years isn't a big difference


[10-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Realistically, people don't make it much past 80


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Sure the government _could_ roll tanks down the center of a major city to enforce federal law


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it would look really bad.


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really, really bad and make things worse


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump ordered troops to San Fran


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they were letting illegals choose how much to spend on a new park


[10-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be molotovs


[10-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do note Nebulon


[10-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking out segregation was a pretty damn big deal.


[10-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That the previous acting attorney general said that he didn't believe SCOTUS had the power to decide what the law is


[10-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said Marbury v Madison was wrong


[10-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOL


[10-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess he just wants the executive branch to execute laws and decide if they're constitutional


[10-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did he provide a reason why he thought it was wrong?


[10-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was asked what the worst SCOTUS decisions were and said Marbury and then all the New Deal decisions


[10-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow


[10-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Mikey#7286
balance of power, the SCOTUS is responsible for making sure congress and the executive branch don't abuse it


[10-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No Dredd Scott, no Korematsu, no Buck v. Bell


[10-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I can see some of the new deal one's.


[10-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just wow


[10-Mar-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy must really, really hate the judiciary.


[10-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
he must hate the founding fathers too


[10-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My theory is that he's a descent of Marbury and is butthurt that his great great great etc grandfather didn't get his commission.


[10-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[10-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
216 year grudge?


[10-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's dedication.


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But seriously, he wanted the executive branch to have the powers of the judiciary, at least in terms of deciding what is and isn't constitutional.


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you mean descendant


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how Trump has appointed so many clowns and morons to important positions that their titles no longer carry any sort of weight beyond the power behind the title


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He appointed a federal appellate judge who is 37


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_37_


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's managed to make the country lose all respect for massively important institutions


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In just two years


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*world


[10-Mar-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's been out of law school for a decade


[10-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And now one step below SCOTUS


[10-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta rush in the loyal ones before they mature and develop a conscience


[10-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also a raging anti-secularist


[10-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All you have to do to best religious freedom types is demand a Satan statue that you will pay for.


[10-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes them look bad either way which is the goal.


[10-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either they back down or have Baphomet next to the ten commandments.


[10-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go for Slaanesh


[10-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop being so normie


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I demand a jedi temple in Alabama, with Slaanesh statues all around


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, this very much did happen last Christmas, if you'll recall


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right next to the capital building.


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I say Happy Holidays


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But only to people who I know it will upset


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WHY DO YOU HATE BABY JESUS


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should go for "Merry Kwanzaa"


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go out of my way to do it.


[10-Mar-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because I can.


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That or Happy Chanuchah


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just want to upset them.


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know some people who don't like that I'm into ponies. I make sure to wish them a Happy Hearthswarming


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make sure to actually pronounce it right.


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that could work but Happy Holidays works better.


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but those sorts more hate the idea of respecting other religions that not putting their own above.


[10-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't be Italy in WWII and show your soft underbelly.


[10-Mar-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then not expect me to invade Sicily.


[10-Mar-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only problem with Kwanzaa is they might not know what it is.


[10-Mar-19 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the goal is to find what would personally upset them and then poke.


[10-Mar-19 07:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone knows that the US conservative definition of "religious freedom" is really just "freedom to impose my religion" and nothing else


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And only so long as "my religion" is "protestant"


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you should try to get them to ask what Kwanzaa is


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
fuck catholics and their deference to a foreign head of state etc


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
then see the horror in their face as you talk about "African Christmas, with no Santa or Jesus"


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Go into detail etc.


[10-Mar-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch them slowly melt.


[10-Mar-19 07:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, "let me explain the meaning of the candles" works for a surprising number of non-Southern Baptist holiday traditions


[10-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh damn, Kwanzaa has seven candles involved


[10-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of Menorahs do too


[10-Mar-19 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even better, they're red, black, and green


[10-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what you could do is explain the candles, then say "similar to a Menorah"


[10-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
try to get them to ask wtf a Menorah is


[10-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews and blakks are the two that white christian nationalists hate the most


[10-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And jesuists


[10-Mar-19 09:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/3/8/18256206/lacroix-earnings-brand-handicapped-nick-caporella

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LaCroix CEO says brands are basically "handicapped" people
According to CEO Nick Caporella, his company’s decline in profits was the result of "injustice" and the fact that brands cannot "see or hear."
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[10-Mar-19 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
broke: corporations are people
woke: brands are disabled people


[10-Mar-19 09:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
groke: Brands are disabled people and as such I want to file my company for disability


[10-Mar-19 09:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's called bankruptcy


[10-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
aka "we need to keep the company alive long enough to fire our workers, sell our assets, pay our CEO's their millions in performance bonuses, and make sure investors get their money back plus interest"


[10-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then maybe keep the IPs in holding and run another round of investment


[10-Mar-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
I don't fucking understand the logic behind counting corporations as "people"


[10-Mar-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
it's like stuffing a bus full of people and saying that because the bus is full of people, it's a fucking person


[10-Mar-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
and any attempt to question this is just unironically called communist propaganda and dismissed with no evidence in favor of corporations being people


[10-Mar-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s an excuse to count lobbying as free speech


[10-Mar-19 09:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a flimsy excuse held on by the weakest tape possible


[10-Mar-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wasn't bribing that officer, sir, I was just telling him with money that he has better things to do.


[10-Mar-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money cannot be speech.


[10-Mar-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even if it is, making corporations people too is a serious problem.


[10-Mar-19 09:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Corporations are people when Texas executes one


[10-Mar-19 09:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it doesn't work for anyone who isnt at least a millionaire


[10-Mar-19 09:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by all technical means given that "Lobbying is free speech" people shoudl be freely allowed to fund terrorist cells without reprecussion but since lobbying is a flimsy paper house as far as excuses go, it doesnt workt his way


[10-Mar-19 09:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant help but wonder how much panic woudl ensue should lobbying suddenly be relabeled back to bribing


[10-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lobbies would never allow that


[10-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As in, hitmen would be hired and congressmen would have unfortunate accidents


[10-Mar-19 10:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if it was scotus who made the call?


[10-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS can say it's no longer protected


[10-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't outlaw it


[10-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bunch of judges would have sudden car crashes or medical complications


[10-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
congress can just decriminalize bribery if they want


[10-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then replaced by plants to reinstate the status quo


[10-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
More likely some judges would have their decisions altered the minute a case reached them


[10-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, GOP goes for "family man" judges for more than one reason...


[10-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They really love young judges that will last a long time and hav like no experience


[10-Mar-19 10:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd say we need communism but knowing america it would just be capitalism with extra steps


[10-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, China


[10-Mar-19 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[10-Mar-19 10:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Communism in America having extra steps? More like extra CLAPS.


[10-Mar-19 10:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[10-Mar-19 10:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont get it


[10-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a joke about STDs


[10-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think


[10-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or twitter filth


[10-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the two


[10-Mar-19 10:28 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Mar-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Great, mixing twitter and 4chan


[10-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like eating greasy shit mixed with broken glass


[10-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @Teaspoon Great, mixing twitter and 4chan
Like eating greasy shit mixed with broken glass


[10-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Teaspoon: Great, mixing twitter and 4chan
Like eating greasy shit mixed with broken glass)


[10-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>:[


[10-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>mixing Twitter and 4chan


[10-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Learn how to use mutes, blocks, and reports to improve your 4chan experience"


[10-Mar-19 05:55 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/XYhrwkE6Gaw

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British school suspends LGBT lessons after 80% of pupils kept home...
A primary school in Britain's second city Birmingham has caved in to pressure and temporarily pulled the plug on its lessons on LGBT rights. That's after hun...
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[10-Mar-19 05:55 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Who knew "diversity" means division?


[10-Mar-19 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's the modern definition


[10-Mar-19 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Diversity only means division when the groups don't experience the same living conditions


[10-Mar-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main issue with diversity is it has to be natural, forcing it just makes it uncomfortable for everyone and  conflict is bound to arise


[10-Mar-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, lack of proper education on what a specific immigrant's culture is like


[10-Mar-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Define "forcing".


[10-Mar-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like if you try to force alabama to take in muslim immigrants


[10-Mar-19 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who is forcing them to do it?


[10-Mar-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one at trhe moment but that's an example because alabama is about as extereme christian as they come


[10-Mar-19 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, most of the time, if we don't entice people to experience what different cultures are like and understand them, they will never change their view on these


[10-Mar-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
enticing is not the same as forcing though. and by forcing i mean trying to install such and such group into a place that;s hostile to that specific group


[10-Mar-19 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every group is hostile to a certain number of other groups


[10-Mar-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and you have to do things slowly and educated


[10-Mar-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cant just dump a bunch of muslims in rural alabama and expect thme not to be swarmed by mobs


[10-Mar-19 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, define "slowly and educated".


[10-Mar-19 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
African Americans have been, historically, introduced very slowly and gradually into US civil society


[10-Mar-19 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And yet, they're still looked down upon. A lot.


[10-Mar-19 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with LGBT groups.


[10-Mar-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, location is also important as well


[10-Mar-19 06:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cultural interaction and integration is a difficult process, and is always prone to conflict, but that does not mean we should just ban all foreigners, close our eyes and pretend their and our prejudices will go away, either.


[10-Mar-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
diversity flows better in a working economy that has proper education, and a more equal wealth pool. A lot of racism right now is either irrational fear, or the elite pointing at th eminorities while flipping through a stack of hundreds and going "They did it"


[10-Mar-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue is media keeps giving attention to neo nazis and the KKK


[10-Mar-19 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw i like how @SeraphimDawn just posts a video and doesn't participate in any further discussion


[10-Mar-19 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think he, deep inside, knows he's intellectually illiterate :^)


[10-Mar-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my area is mostly black people with a lot of white people mixed in. I'm unsure ont he social dynamic but no one seems to be at eachother;s throats currently.


[10-Mar-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but this may be because my area is rural farmlands where people are mroe open to trading produce with eachother and helping eachother


[10-Mar-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few countries in africa are also good examples of  rampant racism fucking over the populace


[10-Mar-19 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, but keep in mind that Africa is a clisterfuck and not always does the "diversity equals conflict" theorem apply there


[10-Mar-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the seizure of white farmland and regifting of said farmland to african elites has gone into overdrive, and most of the locals dont actually know how to farm


[10-Mar-19 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hear Zimbabwe's tribes actually coexist pretty well in regards to culture


[10-Mar-19 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, mind, Africa, while certainly unstable and prone to problems, still has potential


[10-Mar-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the racism and white farmland seizure is being done by elites as a distractiont actic to keep eyes off their broken systems


[10-Mar-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and their under the table dealings with other coutnries


[10-Mar-19 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are you up to date on Paul Kagame's presidency in Rwanda? He's modernizing his country pretty well


[10-Mar-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am not


[10-Mar-19 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.africanews.com/country/rwanda/

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More about rwanda | Africanews
Find all about rwanda on Africanews


[10-Mar-19 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many good news, some controversial, but mostly good


[10-Mar-19 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Africa News is a pretty good site when it comes to clarifying African issues, and also for good news on the continent


[10-Mar-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humans by nature are tribal pakc animals, we tend to drift towards people we have things in common with ranging from hobbies to skin color. We as a species are trying to better our selves but there are quite a lot of people who know how to game this tribalism to their advantage and thye use that.


[10-Mar-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why promotion of community is important


[10-Mar-19 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people tend to turn out better when raised in a healthy community full of people helpign eachother


[10-Mar-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, if that community isnt run like a cult anyway


[10-Mar-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
IE: westboro, jonestown. ISIS based cities


[10-Mar-19 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing that happens with modern communities atleast in america is the crab bucket effect. The idea that a community should hold it's members back if they try to succeed and better themselves because that is seen as betrayel to the community. Which ultimately leads to decay as nothing ever improves because any form of improvement is seen as a tool of satan/socialism/communism by the community


[10-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/schiff-trump-under-oath-1214830

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Schiff: ‘Best way to get the truth would be to put the president...
“Maybe he should talk before a magistrate,” the California Democrat said.
https://static.politico.com/fd/a6/a215e0c24b8e989ee53ebb225b84/190310-schiff-gty-773.jpg


[10-Mar-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would, but trumps attorneys have fought the notion of this tooth and nail because they know he would fail so hard under oath


[10-Mar-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[10-Mar-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/budget-fy2019.pdf


[10-Mar-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here's trumps 2019 budget proposal


[10-Mar-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good north carolina is beign dumb again


[10-Mar-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nc-teacher-raise-armed-north-carolina-teachers-would-get-5-percent-pay-raise-under-proposed-law/

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Armed North Carolina teachers would get 5 percent pay raise under ...
North Carolina bill would give teachers raise if they get same training as police officers, carry guns
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/09/06/10542093-662b-4ab2-9fc2-7efeaee41a71/thumbnail/1200x630/1e1496f570b1f54cdd03b178ffe50868/gettyimages-637549064.jpg


[10-Mar-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mike Pence is expanding his portfolio


[10-Mar-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://imgur.com/r9jq8aP

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[10-Mar-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[10-Mar-19 09:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:pinkiewat:


[10-Mar-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know things are bad when Thomas Edison has become a delivery agent and still isn't able to retire over 80 years after his death.


[10-Mar-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1QR0CW

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Exclusive: In budget, Trump to ask Congress for $8.6 billion for b...
President Donald Trump on Monday will ask the U.S. Congress for an additional $8.6 billion to help pay for his promised wall on the U.S-Mexico border to combat illegal immigration and drug trafficking, officials familiar with his 2020 budget request told Reuters.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190310&t=2&i=1364748671&w=&fh=545px&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEF2909I


[10-Mar-19 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's four times what he said it would be


[10-Mar-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes it is


[10-Mar-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump keeps moving the pricing goal post


[10-Mar-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because quite frankly he doesnt realistically know how much a border wall will cost


[10-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude's clueless


[10-Mar-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's also slashing the EPA budgetand wildlife budget


[10-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Never wanted to be president, has been winging it since


[10-Mar-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well he;s proposing it anyway


[10-Mar-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whether congress gives him his insane demands is another thing entirely


[10-Mar-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's a complete idiot to full of his own shit to admit he's fucked up every single minute for the last two years


[10-Mar-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also has almost no knowledge of laws and how they work


[10-Mar-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he over estimates what an executive order can do


[10-Mar-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and most of his examples of what a politician should be growing up were dictators and lobbyists


[10-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Honahue#0656
he's a sales man not a civil engineer he knows it's easier to low bid and get a contract signed then jack up the price because they'd either have to break the contract which would incur court costs and the general issue with sunk cost that most people would rather keep throwing money at something rather than just cut their losses


[10-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His most ardent defenders I know care more about upsetting libs than anything


[10-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, when exactly does May get thrown off a cliff? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1Yv24cM2os

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🇬🇧🔥 Brexit, Briefly: REVISITED! 🔥🇪🇺
Brexit? Is that still happening, or what? Footnote on the EU's SECRET strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ0xISi40E&list=PLqs5ohhass_QREwr7tdW8gh3kLg...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J1Yv24cM2os/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
when the Queen dies


[10-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[10-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brenter will be fun in ten years


[10-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine destroying the logical result of centuries of European conflict because a few brown people came over in boats


[10-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
not Breturn?


[10-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Better


[10-Mar-19 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
~~Engter~~


[10-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Honahue#0656
they;ll get annexed


[10-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Honahue#0656
by France


[10-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Honahue#0656
again


[10-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
By Denmark


[10-Mar-19 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
An improvement


[10-Mar-19 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
And hey! This way they still will keep a monarch, if they like it so much!


[10-Mar-19 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
France conquering England? Cool. Doing what Napoleon couldn't do in his lifetime :D


[10-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nation of Shopkeepers deserves it


[10-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Napoleon only did one thing wrong and that was reinstate slavery


[10-Mar-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
~~tbh even as ine who likes him as a historic figure, he did do a fair share of warcrimes~~


[10-Mar-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[10-Mar-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-belongs-to-jews-alone-netanyahu-responds-to-tv-star-on-arab-equality-1.7003348

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'Israel is the nation-state of Jews alone': Netanyahu responds to ...
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https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.7003364.1552213715!/image/1430149492.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/1430149492.jpg


[10-Mar-19 11:29 PM] ononim#8141
Behold, the only democracy in the middle east


[10-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Disgusting.


[10-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, is there a version that isn't behind a paywall


[10-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-hits-back-at-Israeli-actress-after-she-criticizes-Miri-Regev-582959

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Netanyahu to Rotem Sela: Israel is not a country of all its citizens
The prime minister responded to an Instagram post from Israeli actress Rotem Sela, who said the government must stop delegitimizing its Arab citizens.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/436844


[10-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
“First of all,” Netanyahu wrote in a Facebook message Sunday morning addressed to actress Rotem Sela, “an important correction: Israel is not a country of all its citizens. According to the Nation-State Law that we passed, Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish nation – and its alone. As you wrote, there is no problem with Arab citizens – they have equal rights like everybody and the Likud government has invested in the Arab sector more than any other government.”


[11-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
>After telling Sela that Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people alone, Netanyahu then launched into his campaign motto: “It’s either a strong right-wing government led by me, or a weak left-wing government led by Yair Lapid and [Benny] Gantz, with the support of the Arab parties.”


[11-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
remind me again why it's so rare to have a "strong" left-wing government that doesn't just go full dictator


[11-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the left inherently is people who don't care about actual authority


[11-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want to do what's right, not just to rule


[11-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
so even when in theory it's a left-wing gov't, once it's strong, it just fills up with people who prefer power and the conservative ideals that help power stay


[11-Mar-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the left sets up a strong gov't out of necessity and then the right usurps it to crush dissent.


[11-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the gov't stays left, it stays weak, and vice versa.


[11-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Netenyahu isn't arguing that the left is wrong inherently, he's arguing that Arabs should be FUKKING RAPED TO DEATH because that's what will keep the jewish people on top and prosperous.


[11-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Netanyahu will be in prison soon


[11-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because you can actually indict a PM.


[11-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The DoJ policy was so they could go after Agnew basically


[11-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The far-right will fight it.


[11-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is functionally incorrect.


[11-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh but how can the president lead from a DC jail?!"


[11-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tough shit.


[11-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't elect a scumbag.


[11-Mar-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As it stands now the president is at least in some sense above the law.


[11-Mar-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much at this point if you do a raping and murdering spree on live TV right before being elected, they can't do shit.


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could openly taunt law enforcement on the livestream with your dikk inside a scared little girl and as long as your party still supported you, tuff cookies.


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ridiculous.


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder how much of this does come down to McConnell strong-arming congress


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully he loses next year.


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could be going around openly doing fundraisers and shit for months while they grapple with the idea of impeachment.


[11-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kentuckians hate him.


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, I think Republicans would impeach Trump if he did *that*


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
what if they didn't?


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that this burden can be put on any one person but...where is the power right now, *really*


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if they truly believed it was better to hav a rapist in office than to let Democrats take over?


[11-Mar-19 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
More than that, a racist in office


[11-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, what if Mueller says that Trump raped kids and Republicans refuse to impeach?


[11-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
WTF do we do?


[11-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP base doesn't care about rape allegations.


[11-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At all.


[11-Mar-19 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the secret dream of an insignificant fraction of the country, suddenly manifest


[11-Mar-19 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even if everything goes best-case scenario and Mueller manages to press heavy charges on everyone up to and including Trump, we still have the problem of white supremacists being *vindicated* at the highest level


[11-Mar-19 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's going to take more than my lifetime to undo


[11-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if he has video, tho, Its?


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's of like a 12-year-old, and the GOP just goes "so what?"


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like fukksakes


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We had a recording of the president talking about sexually assaulting women


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
do they hav any morals left?


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't care.


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His base is afraid of brown people taking over


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm HOPING that at least if it comes down to "Trump raped kids", Republicans would draw a line


[11-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm really hoping that even if it doesn't, McConell gets outvoted on "holy shit guys the president is in league with our enemies"


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now I'm starting to think that wouldn't do it


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's just so damn blatant.


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as far as I can tell the GOP has gone full fascist and anyone who isn't fully on board is gonna get ostracized


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can have a child rapist president or someone who allows brown people in


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could find out Trump's Ted Bundy in disguise and maybe the GOP wouldn't impeach him.


[11-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A significant group prefers the former.


[11-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate climax of "libertarians"


[11-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
The child didn't consent, but there are brown people and they don't deserve property rights.


[11-Mar-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's already a list of impeachable offenses for every letter of the alphabet a couple times over


[11-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single tweet about Mueller is obstruction.


[11-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He obstructed the SDNY investigation.


[11-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, gov't, I'd like you to expand to a great size to assault my enemies. Also, say something about smaller gov't.


[11-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh


[11-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should not have free speech rights similar to a citizen.


[11-Mar-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually, I wish he *did* have free speech rights similar to a citizen


[11-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[11-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president has powers to direct millions


[11-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just think about how say, lawyers are limited in their free speech rights


[11-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they are


[11-Mar-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My point is, if you're a random guy on the street, there is actually a limit to what you can say and direct consequences that follow


[11-Mar-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right now it seems like he's completely bypassed any and all consequences


[11-Mar-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not so much that we're lacking these things, it's that they're not *working*


[11-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legal ethics is interesting shit


[11-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taking my MPRE later this year


[11-Mar-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really wonder how many problems that exist have systems in place to prevent them that aren't being enforced for one reason or another


[11-Mar-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think the President should be super restricted


[11-Mar-19 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and there is definitely a difference between "doesn't work" and "isn't being enforced"


[11-Mar-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause then you end up grappling with political content restrictions


[11-Mar-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he should face the same restrictions as normal people


[11-Mar-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep


[11-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
he shouldn't be able to yell fire in a crowded theater or direct people to commit crimes


[11-Mar-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
simply put, my rights end where yours begin


[11-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But look at the Stormy Daniels thing, with the suit against him and the counterslap


[11-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was a clear indication the president is given EXTRA speech rights


[11-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what needs to stop, Its.


[11-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I guess that's reasonable.


[11-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should be able to sue the president for actions taken against you if you say are wrongfully terminated.


[11-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I also don't think the president should be able to attempt to defame private individuals.


[11-Mar-19 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh I think he should be able to *attempt* it. Once.


[11-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You may spank it


[11-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Once_


[11-Mar-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[11-Mar-19 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/gallery/LTraG3e

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Real Life DLC
https://i.imgur.com/OYnwLRLh.jpg


[11-Mar-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doula-explains-why-hospital-charged-parents-39-to-hold-newborn-baby-in-viral-post/

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Doula explains why hospital charged parents $39 to hold newborn in...
It's actually not "ludicrous" for hospitals to charge parents for skin to skin contact, woman says
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/10/12/f6357706-2c4e-4427-bb24-afde179a6442/thumbnail/1200x630/00e27c3e7d7df5a5f4d3aaff23d20fb3/screen-shot-2016-10-12-at-12-16-00-pm.png


[11-Mar-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This sikkens me.


[11-Mar-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to say that contact which is basically necessary for normal baby development costing extra is okay because the hospital has to hav an extra nurse present.


[11-Mar-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're completely ignoring the problem of this not being considered normal to hav and thus being a separate charge


[11-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the exorbitant price where you're being charged what could easily be most of the cost of a full birth for just 1 minute of holding your own fukking baby


[11-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the CRAZY reliance on c-sections in America because everyone wants to hav the baby on a certain date.


[11-Mar-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are problems here, and people being upset about being charged $40 to hold their own child isn't one of them.


[11-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are *big* problems here.


[11-Mar-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they need to stop being fukking ignored.


[11-Mar-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
both my and my brother's births required c-sections


[11-Mar-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
I had my umbilical cord wrapped around my neck


[11-Mar-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
and my brother was lying on his umbilical cord


[11-Mar-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
his was considered an emergency


[11-Mar-19 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i think i was delivered vaginally


[11-Mar-19 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
ur gay


[11-Mar-19 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[11-Mar-19 07:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://mic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us?fbclid=IwAR1PPCtVYhYxxfnIcJsK_SlsGquWSe8vdDJpnoFZ5ooOaFRVrmXbCe2nvns#.geY220qqU

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NASA Study Concludes When Civilization Will End, And It's Not Look...
According to a new study sponsored by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, we only have a few decades left before everything we know and hold dear collapses.
https://thumbs.mic.com/NWJmODIwOGM5NyMvOHplMG9sM0lveWlBX3dKX1NNcUd5Wk5RR2F3PS83eDc6MzYwMHgyMjczLzgwMHg0NTAvZmlsdGVyczpmb3JtYXQoanBlZyk6cXVhbGl0eSg4MCkvaHR0cHM6Ly9zMy5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL3BvbGljeW1pYy1pbWFnZXMvNzU4NjUwY2RhYzI5NzQ2NTM3NzVlMWEzYmEwMGU1OWY2ZDdmNjg4NDQ4ZGZkNDIwZGM0MGNhYzM1YjRhMDg1OC5qcGc.jpg


[11-Mar-19 07:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Murder all rich people" -scientists


[11-Mar-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 problems with this


[11-Mar-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
First, as societies come to modern infrastructure, population growth plummets with birth control and less pressure to breed


[11-Mar-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second, while it generally is the case that resource consumption increases in response to efficiency, there are limiting factors on particular ones


[11-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
of especial note is meat


[11-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
consumption of it basically can't go up very much


[11-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but efficiency of producing it can GREATLY increase


[11-Mar-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if you double meat consumption with lab-grown meat, you cut out massive resource wastage with cattle


[11-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is almost nothing that strains water and land resources like cattle


[11-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that said, the concentration of wealth/power/resources is a serious problem


[11-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, I'm looking around for obama's "new normal" quote, and I managed to track down where he said it


[11-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
but I can't find any clips of it


[11-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-president-barack-obama-part-1-07-11-2010/5/

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Transcript: President Barack Obama, Part 1
"60 Minutes" Correspondent Steve Kroft Interviewed The President Nov. 4, 2010
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[11-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
the video redirects to a 404 page


[11-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
"What is a danger is that we stay stuck in a new normal where unemployment rates stay high. People who have jobs see their incomes go up. Businesses make big profits. But they've learned to do more with less. And so they don't hire. And as a consequence, we keep on seeing growth that is just too slow to bring back the eight million jobs that were lost. That is a danger. So that's something that I've spent a lot of time thinking about. "


[11-Mar-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly obama said that "this is a new normal" for "warehouse jobs" leaving the US


[11-Mar-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
which is a consequence of those jobs being literally cheaper than dirt to do in another country


[11-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
because why buy a warehouse for $1000 per square yard in the US and have to pay workers $10 an hour with a 40 hour cap per person when it costs $100 per square yard for a warehouse with $0.50 an hour wage with no cap per person in india?


[11-Mar-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, sadly, we can't make enuff burgers out of the rich, as they are too few.


[11-Mar-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
They make good fertilizer tho


[11-Mar-19 08:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Compost them


[11-Mar-19 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
We shall grow food for the poor with their corpses


[11-Mar-19 09:04 AM] snail pie#2297
Yeet


[11-Mar-19 09:04 AM] snail pie#2297
We're gonna yeet the bourgeois out of windows and use their corpses as fertilizer


[11-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/03/senate-confirms-dangerous-religious-extremist-allison-rushing-as-federal-judge/

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Michael Stone
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/03/senate-confirms-dangerous-religious-extremist-allison-rushing-as-federal-judge/
Senate Confirms Dangerous Religious Extremist Allison Rushing As F...
More of that Christian theocracy: Allison Rushing, a dangerous religious extremist and former warrior for an anti-LGBT hate group, has been confirmed to a lifetime appointment as a federal judge.
https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/410/2019/03/AllisonRushing1.png


[11-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-newly-confirmed-federal-judge-has-ties-anti-gay-n980281

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Trump’s new federal judge has ties to anti-gay 'hate group'
Allison Jones Rushing was confirmed to a federal appeals court Tuesday. LGBTQ advocates have expressed concern over her ties to the Alliance Defending Freedom.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_10/2776241/190306-allison-jones-rushing-al-1136_7fc1ba653f64d010d977180cebb4857f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you know why secondhand smoke has been found to have higher rates of cancer than smokers?


[11-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
never mind https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/home/features/advisor-forum/secondhand-smoke-worse-than-smoking/

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Haymarket Media
https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/home/features/advisor-forum/secondhand-smoke-worse-than-smoking/
Secondhand smoke worse than smoking? - Clinical Advisor
What makes secondhand smoke worse for people who do not smoke?


[11-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Patrony#2095
Darren Woods


[11-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
wtf <https://imgur.com/gallery/cllSAtQ/comment/1604022269>


[11-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
>As long as you're not forced to be a servant by a person you're free.


[11-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
>forced to work to pay off debt


[11-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
is this guy retarded lol


[11-Mar-19 12:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html

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By NICHOLAS CASEY, CHRISTOPH KOETTL and DEBORAH ACOSTA
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html
Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy
A reconstruction of the moment when a truck bearing humanitarian supplies was set on fire shows the likely cause was a Molotov cocktail thrown by a protester.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/11/world/americas/11a2-truck/AIDTRUCK-facebookJumbo.jpg


[11-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
weren't you just calling the new york times "capitalist shills" just last week?


[11-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
you can't have your cake and eat it too


[11-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
I can guarantee that the new york times of today and the new york times during hitler's reign are completely different beasts


[11-Mar-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1104885542615953408?s=21

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Tucker Carlson used the c-word, said women are ‘primitive’ and ‘like dogs,’ and joked about a 13-year-old being molested during newly unearthed radio appearances https://t.co/Y1g3FurLe4
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Twitter


[11-Mar-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[11-Mar-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/11/fox-tucker-carlson-bubba-love-sponge-comments-spark-uproar/3127666002/

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Tucker Carlson refuses to apologize amid uproar over past comments...
Carlson says he feels 'sorry for unattractive women,' uses the c-word to describe two women, calls one woman a 'pig' and refers to women as 'whores.'
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/22/USAT/75eafec3-d220-4caf-ba82-8d2403d15f92-Tucker_Carlson.JPG?crop=5759,3224,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[11-Mar-19 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a fox news host who hates women? i would have never seen this coming


[11-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was just a joke bro


[11-Mar-19 03:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/china-database-lists-breedready-status-of-18-million-women

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China database lists 'breedready' status of 1.8 million women
Dutch researcher finds cache of information including phone numbers, addresses and ages
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[11-Mar-19 04:02 PM] ononim#8141
The Immortal Science of /d/ globalised fetish threads


[11-Mar-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
So


[11-Mar-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I watched the Media Matters clip


[11-Mar-19 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
And... it's really not that bad?


[11-Mar-19 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean calling people whores is pretty shitty, so is being possessive of women and treating them like property, but the rest is fine


[11-Mar-19 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Like


[11-Mar-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is _so_ much worse than this guy


[11-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Deleted User#0000
thats not saying alot though


[11-Mar-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
He was apparently misinformed about the underage marriage thing


[11-Mar-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
But what he said was perfectly reasonable because he didn't have any context


[11-Mar-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
And to be clear I despise Tucker Carlson


[11-Mar-19 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
But I hate these stupid mass media lynchings even more


[11-Mar-19 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Advertisers urged to boycott Tucker Carlson's show https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/11/tucker-carlsons-remaining-advertisers-targeted-in-new-call-for-boycott/23689418/

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Tucker Carlson's remaining advertisers target of boycott call
There are calls for action after old recordings emerge apparently showing the Fox News host denigrating women.
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[11-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[11-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[]


[11-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do not


[11-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Call anything but actual lynchings


[11-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lynchings


[11-Mar-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Mob vigilantism then


[11-Mar-19 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/watch-developer-says-new-maga-app-will-help-trump-supporters-find-safe-spaces-liberals-wont-mock/

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WATCH: Developer says new MAGA app will help Trump supporters find...
“Fox & Friends” on Monday hosted a software developer who has created a mobile app intended to help Trump supporters find “safe spaces” where they can go in public without fear of being ridiculed by liberals. As the Daily Beast reported over the weekend, the new mobil...
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[11-Mar-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow, he;s so self consious he actually had to make up an excuse for the tim apple thing

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[11-Mar-19 06:56 PM] Honahue#0656
Of the things that Trump has done which are national embarrassments saying someone's name wrong is probably his least ones


[11-Mar-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is and the fact that he's amkign a big deal about it is just weird


[11-Mar-19 06:59 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah that's actually a bigger embarrassment


[11-Mar-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God imagine if Bush got this upset about strategery and make the pie higher


[11-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly Bush probably just chuckled when people pointed his gaffe of the day


[11-Mar-19 07:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is godlessly insecure


[11-Mar-19 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Has spent his whole life sheltered by money and suck ups, mostly ignored by anyone that would bother to criticize him


[11-Mar-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bush just wanted to drink beer and play baseball early on


[11-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's an althist where Jeb! got the presidency and he was a mediocre outfielder or something


[11-Mar-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is so insecure he refuses to attend the annual presidential dinner


[11-Mar-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since people who go up on stage make jokes about the president whoever it may be


[11-Mar-19 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
http://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf


[11-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Tucker Carlson defense stuff means nothing is "too much" anymore.


[11-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems got away with the VA Governor thing scratchless


[11-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-broke-his-promise-fix-debt-he-ll-blame-congress-n981866

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Trump broke his promise to fix the debt. He'll blame Congress in 2020.
Analysis: The president said he'd eliminate the debt. Instead, he borrowed trillions more. But he's betting the red ink won't stain him in 2020.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_11/2781956/190311-donald-trump-cs-357p_73a9cfad38b8922bdb2744594a55404a.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
>But under the spending blueprint he released Monday — which has "promises kept" in its title — the federal government wouldn't start paying down debt for 15 years. Until then, even under the rosy projections of Trump's budget-writers, Washington would run annual deficits adding to a red-ink total that already stands at more than $22 trillion.


[11-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
this is like throwing a candle into a wildfire when compared to everything else trump has done


[11-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
>That's despite calling for massive cuts to entitlement programs, headlined by a plan to force recipients of Medicaid, food stamps and federal housing subsidies to work or otherwise engage in their communities.


[11-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
why is making people work to receive benefits considered a bad thing?


[11-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
and if they can't find a job, why isn't proving that they're attempting to find jobs not good enough?


[11-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow the thing is people on benefits often hav no realistic shot at employment


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just want them to die


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
literally.


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to hav an excuse to let them starve to death.


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
there was a point in time in which california apparently had a really good worker training program


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
and you had to go into that if you wanted benefits


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it was started by reagan


[11-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
I forget what it was called, it had a catchy name


[11-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
I think they got rid of it back in like 2006


[11-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan had some good ideas, but the party has shed the good parts since


[11-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
they realized if they actually got people working, then they wouldn't be able to use it for political points anymore


[11-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/433547-pelosi-says-impeaching-trump-just-not-worth-it

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Pelosi says impeaching Trump 'just not worth it'
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in an interview published Monday that she's against impeaching President Trump "unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan," arguing "he's just not worth it."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_022619sr_lead.jpg


[11-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[11-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[11-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What she means is Republicans won't let her, so trying isn't worth it.


[11-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hate-america-bar-faces-backlash-bartender-filmed-refusing-serve-man-maga-visor-161822722.html

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'You hate America?': Bar faces backlash after bartender is filmed ...
Outraged "MAGA" fans called for a boycott of the NYC bar and posted a flurry of negative reviews accusing it of "Trump derangement syndrome."
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/GVhxBWfBwil82t3VoH9w0Q--~B/aD0zNjQ3O3c9NTQ3MTtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/http:/media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/70fa96f076db861febb7c17e3e2efa89


[11-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
freedom of speech strikes again


[11-Mar-19 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
@prism stryder(intexda) do they mean this app?

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[12-Mar-19 12:03 AM] illumnious#7938
Roseanne Barr blames Michelle Obama for firing https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2019/03/11/roseanne-barr-blames-michelle-obama-for-getting-fired/23689638/ isn’t she the one who sing the national anthem back in 1990?

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Roseanne Barr blames Michelle Obama for getting fired at ABC: 'Tha...
In the months since ABC canceled her show, Roseanne, last May, Roseanne Barr has put forth several explanations for her termination.
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[12-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi doesn't know what she's doing


[12-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than trying to help get her party in the White House next year.


[12-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
my mom refuses to consider the idea that both democrats and republicans are majority neoliberal because it ties the democratic and republican parties together in a fundamental way she vehemently denies could ever exist


[12-Mar-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
every time I say "neoliberal" she just yells "what even is a neoliberal?", and when I describe to her what it is, she starts screaming about socialism and lamenting how I've been "indoctrinated by high school" or whatever, even though I agreed with whatever she said up until like 3 years ago


[12-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[12-Mar-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so rossanne bar took responsibility and thne turned aroudn and blamed obama?


[12-Mar-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit barr you might have had a shot at redemption if you just stuck tot he responsibility


[12-Mar-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope she isnt trying for fox news host


[12-Mar-19 12:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I sure she'll console herself with wads of cash


[12-Mar-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure she will


[12-Mar-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Mar-19 01:27 AM] ononim#8141
http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/93c71fbc-6634-4d2c-8729-2d2ea1f0bdd8?fbclid=IwAR3YrQyski9dKmgl97AgJoKYjE-C8YXDiX5bxv133yyJU5tMl40SG3UH_xg

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Belgian court: PKK not a terrorist organization
After nine years of proceedings, a court in Belgium on Friday acquitted multiple suspects accused of activities involving the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).
http://kurdistan24.blob.core.windows.net/filemanager/resources/normals/2019/03/PKK23.jpg


[12-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
neat


[12-Mar-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based waffles


[12-Mar-19 01:55 AM] snail pie#2297
Read Marx just to piss her off lol


[12-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
she says I can't think for myself when I send her sources for things I say


[12-Mar-19 02:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Learn the logics and lead her along by the end


[12-Mar-19 02:06 AM] snail pie#2297
I mean


[12-Mar-19 02:06 AM] snail pie#2297
Reality is more than thinking


[12-Mar-19 02:07 AM] snail pie#2297
Grasping reality is observing as well


[12-Mar-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And sometimes you get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmVMh-nT200

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Art House Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmVMh-nT200
The Pepsi logo: Are corporate professionals okay?
How did Pepsi perfect its logo? It takes a certain kind of genius to market a brand effectively. I began this video before Art House Politics existed AHP on ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TmVMh-nT200/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, she says calling out fallacies is a cop-out and kind of blunders around connecting random shit together under the blanket term "socialism" (which in her mind is slavery)


[12-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
like human-caused climate change is socialism because al gore got rich off of "An Inconvenient Truth" and has 5 houses and travels by private jet


[12-Mar-19 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well fallacies are sort of cop-outs, a mis-use intentionally or unintentional of logic. Of course you could also say because a fallacy is a fallacy means it's wrong, but you'll need to go through some extra steps to prove why C is A if A is B and B is C.


[12-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
no, I mean calling out fallacies is a cop-out


[12-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
so if you say "that doesn't make sense, here's a fallacy that shows why it doesn't make sense" and she becomes sarcastic and mocking


[12-Mar-19 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
boomers amirite


[12-Mar-19 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
FelixBeidermanExplainingBoomers.mp4


[12-Mar-19 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mix8VuGyno

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AndroidPolitician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mix8VuGyno
Chapo Trap House - Gen X
Episode 250 https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-250-big-dickinson-energy-feat-alena-smith-10118 My dumbass twitter: https://twitter.com/AndroidPo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0mix8VuGyno/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Mar-19 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How the fuck did baby boomers go from the generation of Jimi Hendrix and LSD and questioning the system to... this?


[12-Mar-19 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
250,000 DOLLARS FOR MINDING A CANDY STORE


[12-Mar-19 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
COMMITTING ABSOLUTE GENOCIDE ON SERVICE WORKERS


[12-Mar-19 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Because the already middle class hippies came into power from their generation, where-as the radicals of the time just sorta burned out or something


[12-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
what's bernie then


[12-Mar-19 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Boomer radical that got away


[12-Mar-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But like, the Boomer radicals behind the Weather Underground or the White and Black Panthers sort of simmered away into the background of activism.


[12-Mar-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or arressted.


[12-Mar-19 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or if they were the Young Lords or anyone else in the old Rainbow Coalition sort of got re-absorbed into the working class.


[12-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
we need to make sure he has a constant drip of that new drug that neutralizes the toxin which causes alzheimer's


[12-Mar-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/FVhN0RX

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Thanks Trump
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[12-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/433497-trump-admin-threatens-to-withhold-intelligence-from-germany-unless-it-drops

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Trump admin threatens to withhold intelligence from Germany unless...
The Trump administration is threatening to withhold intelligence from Germany if the country does not drop a potential contract with Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/huawei_12262018getty.jpg


[12-Mar-19 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://tenor.com/view/wut-what-gif-3532735

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YEAH... wait what?
https://media.tenor.co/images/8667342c237f50472cd8248abe18f412/raw


[12-Mar-19 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I'm just surprised to see an article that starts "Trump admin threatens" and then it turns out they're *doing the right thing for once*


[12-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I assume all Huawei devices report directly to the CPC somehow.


[12-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Litrojia#0612
It is a pretty bold measure (dunno how often stuff like that happens honestly), but fuck Huawei


[12-Mar-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/11/facebook-removes-elizabeth-warren-ads-1216757

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Facebook backtracks after removing Warren ads calling for Facebook...
A Facebook spokesperson said the company is in the process of restoring the ads.
https://static.politico.com/6c/13/32dbd0644a30b4a1a2c6ffbf0a3d/190311-elizabeth-warren-gty-773.jpg


[12-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Zucc is braver than I


[12-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again if I were him I would already be running


[12-Mar-19 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I wonder, if Putin's thinking about private internet because the US is evil, what if he somehow adopts Huawei tech to run it and whoops lol


[12-Mar-19 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wouldn't be entirely out of the question, the two countries are bros, but oh boy


[12-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazed Mongolia has held out.


[12-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/11/uks-theresa-may-clinches-legally-binding-brexit-backstop-changes-deputy-says.html

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UK's Theresa May clinches legally binding Brexit 'backstop' change...
The British prime minister has clinched changes to her Brexit deal in her bid to win last-minute support before Tuesday's vote.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/01/28/105704269-1548699966360rts2aycz.1910x1000.jpg


[12-Mar-19 04:24 AM] ononim#8141
re:conservative boomers; isn't there was a study which corealted finansical well being with being more conservative and also with better longlivety?


[12-Mar-19 04:26 AM] ononim#8141
As inm upper middle class and up had better asccess to healthcare of higher quality and thus in general bigger percentage of them lived/s longer and also bigger percentage of them are conservative


[12-Mar-19 04:26 AM] ononim#8141
~~I also love how everyone forgets about generation x~~


[12-Mar-19 05:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
Gen X is basically millennials economically except they got retail and dumb marketing jobs, we get no jobs


[12-Mar-19 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gen X are like boomers but slightly more aware but more entitled and they think simply knowing the thing happened is good enough; but all the while rejecting any job on the grounds of "authenticity"


[12-Mar-19 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/433555-blue-cross-blue-shield-insurer-didnt-pay-any-federal-taxes-in-2018-got-17

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Blue Cross, Blue Shield operator did not pay federal taxes in 2018...
Health Care Service Corp., which operates Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans in a handful of states, did not pay any federal taxes in 2018 and received a $1.7 billion tax refund, according to its latest
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bluecrossblueshield_031119_getty.jpg


[12-Mar-19 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
I guess they were closer to the boomer generation and had higher expectations instilled within them


[12-Mar-19 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
None of them seem to be aware just how much they have vs us in my experience


[12-Mar-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X basically decided they didn't need to participate in politics


[12-Mar-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Boomers made sure they couldn't


[12-Mar-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Control of congress is basically going to skip a generation.


[12-Mar-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
As Boomers die, Millennials will replace them, not Gen X


[12-Mar-19 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean that's why there hope with AOC I guess


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cus that is an interesting point


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing about Gen X is they can't hav an Alexendria


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Politics largely skipping a gen


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire deal is being passive and just accepting some mediocre job in like advertising


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
while sipping coffee


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cus they can afford to go out to Starbucks like they stereotype us


[12-Mar-19 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
We actually can't lmao


[12-Mar-19 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's ironic


[12-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silents were bad parents.


[12-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really bad parents.


[12-Mar-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They essentially told their kids everything was fine, don't question the gov't, and when Gen X started being born, to just do whatever


[12-Mar-19 06:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxE5z-Sszgk

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[12-Mar-19 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Twitter can burn in a fire for all I care


[12-Mar-19 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
So can this talking head


[12-Mar-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it was some dumb meme making fun of some "reporters" who got laid off at buzzfeed who said the same thing like 7-8 years ago to blue collar workers being laid off


[12-Mar-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/learn-to-code


[12-Mar-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
why is it on kym lol


[12-Mar-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
ironically, they do a much better job at explaining it than any of these partisan talking heads


[12-Mar-19 07:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i'm pretty sure baby boomer politicians run on pure spite towards millenials as a life force


[12-Mar-19 07:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and cash


[12-Mar-19 07:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a blood transfusion of spite and cash


[12-Mar-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433507-trump-proposes-cutting-national-science-foundation-budget-by-billion-dollars

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Trump calls for cutting National Science Foundation funding by $1 ...
President Trump on Monday called for cutting spending at the National Science Foundation (NSF), the government's top funder of nonmedical research, by about $1 billion. The White House's fiscal 2020
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_030719getty.jpg


[12-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah how about no


[12-Mar-19 08:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
let's not forget the baby stem cells


[12-Mar-19 08:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're anti abortion publically


[12-Mar-19 08:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
but secretly they want that sweet treatment to live longer


[12-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Mikey#7286
@prism stryder(intexda) baby boomers won't be around much longer, they inherited wealth and prosperity from their parents and lived their lives comfortably and want to do anything to hold on while they can lol


[12-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Mikey#7286
trump wants to dumb the country down


[12-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Mikey#7286
if he had his way he'd probably cut all spending to the NSF


[12-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/medicare-for-all-v-medicare-for-less-trumps-proposed-cuts-put-health-care-at-center-of-2020-race/2019/03/11/87e9dae2-4424-11e9-8aab-95b8d80a1e4f_story.html


[12-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
>A new proposal by President Trump to slash Medicare spending puts Republicans in a political bind ahead of the 2020 election as Democrats are pitching an expansion of the popular health-care program for all Americans.


[12-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if he's doing that specifically because republican leaders are telling him to tone it down on defunding healthcare


[12-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
because the majority of the US supports expanding healthcare


[12-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
even 62% of republicans support obamacare


[12-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[12-Mar-19 08:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eio4BxSa8Ug

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[12-Mar-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his budget proposal is basically "Throw everything else under the bus, while hyper militarizing our country and building a mexico wall"


[12-Mar-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also probably mroe tax cuts for the rich which makes his plans even mroe unaffordable


[12-Mar-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his homeland security budget plan is to increase the size of ICE ten fold and build a fucking wall


[12-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/minecraft-notch-controversy-twitter-transphobic-q-1359020

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From Q-Anon to transphobia, the creator of ‘Minecraft’ has takes
“You are absolutely evil if you want to encourage delusion. What happened to not stigmatizing mental illness,” Minecraft creator Notch tweeted out on Monday.
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[12-Mar-19 04:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say you hate trans people.


[12-Mar-19 04:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate this pussyfooting shit, don't half ass your shit like this.


[12-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
MS is wondering if they should've added a "stfu online" clause to their MC purchase...


[12-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"In response to a My Little Pony meme..."
ph boy


[12-Mar-19 05:46 PM] NightShadowMLP#9795
Wow


[12-Mar-19 06:08 PM] ononim#8141
The virgin swede VS THE CHAD PONE


[12-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pony making all the alt right mad


[12-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Minecraft creator Markus Persson ("Notch", creator of Minecraft) (Minecraft creator) [DID WE MENTION THAT HE CREATED MINECRAFT YET]


[12-Mar-19 07:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't wait until all the virtue signallers equate playing Minecraft to being transphobic


[12-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
MLP is just a meme flavor now


[12-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would you like that in anime or pony, sir?


[12-Mar-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/433645-trump-airplanes-are-becoming-far-too-complex-to-fly

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Trump: 'Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly'
President Trump on Tuesday warned about the complexity of modern aircraft after the United Kingdom became the latest country to ground Boeing 737 Max 8 planes in the wake of the latest crash involving the aircraft.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpd_03082019getty.jpg


[12-Mar-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomer


[12-Mar-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3pGNTIC4c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3pGNTIC4c
SLS Rocket In Trouble After New Whitehouse Budget Request
I don't usually do politics, but the new Whitehouse budget request makes huge changes to the future of the SLS rocket. While these aren't final by any means ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wb3pGNTIC4c/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So tl;dw: Trump isn't requesting any funding for the currently unfunded SLS later bits


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NASA is basically dead now right


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which would be needed to get the Lunar Gateway retarded bullshit up in orbit


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He offered them a blank check for Mars by 2024


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The main SLS proponent lost reelection


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, he didn't offer them a blank chekk


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
he asked them how much money they would need


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nelson?


[12-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
they said all the money in the world couldn't do it


[12-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and no, Culberson or something


[12-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A sample return is needed more tbh


[12-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, I think you don't really understand what's going on with NASA


[12-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I stopped following space politics a while back because it got too confusing


[12-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so like


[12-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure you know about the porkbarrelness, so I'll skip ahead to what the Lunar Gateway retarded bullshit is


[12-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is possible to put a space station in a sort of & shaped orbit around the Earth and Moon


[12-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
This takes extra fuel to get to from either, but less to get to from the opposite one to where it's currently around


[12-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lunar Gateway would be such a station, like 3x ISS size


[12-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
with gigantic tanks of Hydrogen fuel


[12-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Hydrogen is very very efficient because it has the smallest exhaust particles


[12-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's also not very dense, so you need gargantuan tanks


[12-Mar-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boeing has proposed a single stage lunar lander that would be 14m tall


[12-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts would need an elevator to get to the surface, cause Hydrogen


[12-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus


[12-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is how NASA justifies SLS after Congress tells it to build SLS for something


[12-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, to store Hydrogen sanely, you need it really cold


[12-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause otherwise it expands and your tank has to fart it all out


[12-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
(or explode)


[12-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, Hydrogen is actually really slippery, so some leaks out anyways no matter what you put it in


[12-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So storing it longterm is fukking retarded


[12-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
But, that's the plan for Lunar Gateway


[12-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
to store large quantities of Hydrogen fuel that will probably all leak out within a few years


[12-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that in a decade or so, whatever is going to Mars can use the Hydrogen that no longer is stored


[12-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Lunar Gateway is retarded.


[12-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what Congress/NASA hav been jointly planning, @Itsthinking


[12-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances of any part of Lunar Gateway actually launching are pretty much 0


[12-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's the only thing NASA can point to to say "we need SLS" after Congress puts a gun to its head


[12-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has just made sure not to ask for any of the SLS parts that would be needed for Lunar Gateway to happen


[12-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA has been yelling at Congress for 10 years that it just wants its deep space missions to use SpaceX or something and not SLS


[12-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(as in, beyond Earth-Moon)


[12-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Congress has been asking for them to use SLS, saying NOTHING ELSE CAN DO IT


[12-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except, you know, Falcon Heavy can


[12-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, @Itsthinking, did you see Scott's video on Shuttle-derived Launch Vehicles?


[12-Mar-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Commercial Crew competes with SLS, and Congress has repeatedly underfunded Commercial Crew as a result


[12-Mar-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and ordered pointless investigations like when Elon smoked a joint)


[12-Mar-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut now Commercial Crew is a few months away from actually, legitimately putting astronauts into space


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, SLS' upper stage had delays because of serious design flaws


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's looking like it'll launch in **2022 at the earliest**.


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the tl;dw on Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles is that there's a whole slew of them


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they follow a pattern


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress: NASA, you hav to replace Shuttle!


[12-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA: With what?


[12-Mar-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress: WITH SHUTTLE PARTS


[12-Mar-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA: ...makes no fukking sense, but okay, here's a big hydrogen-fueled core with some SRBs on the side that we pray don't blow up


[12-Mar-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress: COOL!


[12-Mar-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA: Also if anything goes wrong between T-0 and T+60 there is a **0% chance of survival, according to actual math we did.**


[12-Mar-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress: YAY!


[12-Mar-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
At one point there was the Ares, which instead of side-mounted SRBs had an SRB first stage entirely, which would for sure kill astronauts within the first 10 launches. It did get a launch just to see what would happen with nothing on it up to stage separation, then fell to Earth.


[12-Mar-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stage separation had the upper stage spin around and hit the lower stage...the video is fukking surreal, it's like seeing a normie KSP streamer see how horribly things go wrong, except it's an actual NASA test.


[12-Mar-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress: Oh hey we got all those jobs for people, but we need more jobs, so we're cancelling the program and starting a new one, scrap it all!


[12-Mar-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA: *Wipes sweat off brow related to knowing that having to kill astronauts for the sake of some random factory workers in Michigan having jobs has been pushed bakk*


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apollo should have never been cancelled.


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, Shuttle shouldn't've flown cargo


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We'd have been like the Russians with a super stable launch system


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An American Soyuz


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should've been the big light fluffy reusable astronaut glider.


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Shuttle needed to be smaller


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not smaller, lighter


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An actual Shuttle


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's a huge difference


[12-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Use military rockets for cargo


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know about the "big fluffy booster" idea, right?


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No need to waste time with the civilian space programs time


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, reentry is a bitch


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, little secret about booster reusability


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soyuz's boosters, when they land


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have the Air Force give NASA a few Atli and be done with it.


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
are barely even damaged at all


[12-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could probably get some big robot arms and a few riveters and fix them in a month


[12-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just not worth the cost to do so


[12-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that our crew capsules are real dense


[12-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So unlike those boosters, they need parachutes and shit to not slam into a hillside melted and end up strewn across the landscape in a crater


[12-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you're real light and fluffy, then even at reentry speeds you can just bleed off heat faster than it accrues from the blanket of super-compressed plasma in front of you


[12-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you need less parachute, too


[12-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
So when the shuttle was being imagined, they were like "just make two big light and fluffy gliders, the bottom one being a booster"


[12-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of like a delta wing blimp of metal on top of a bigger such thing


[12-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would've not even needed any ceramic tiles


[12-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
bare metal just conducts the heat away


[12-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then the Air Force demanded it be able to launch spy satellites


[12-Mar-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means it needs a cylindrical section to accomodate things that are literally just Hubble with worse mirrors and some extra stuff


[12-Mar-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which means that it now has this huge extra pile of mass in the middle, with heavy doors


[12-Mar-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which means it can't be big and fluffy enuff


[12-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
so now it has to be just a little dense winged cylinder with crazy powerful engines


[12-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which means it needs a crazy reusable heatshield otherwise the whole thing explodes on reentry


[12-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is where the Shuttle went wrong.


[12-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then the launch system can't be big and fluffy either, entirely, as everything's too heavy


[12-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
so it needed SRBs on liftoff


[12-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Elon Musk is doing with Starship, @Itsthinking, is a big fluffy booster and a big fluffy glider.


[12-Mar-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically doing the original Shuttle, but with modern tech that can actually do it with significant cargo capacity instead of just a tiny crew cabin.


[12-Mar-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, the reason Elon is doing reusability, and the reason NASA still tried it with the Shuttle is that engines are the most expensive part of any rokket


[12-Mar-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause engines deal with stresses the likes of which all other machines die under.


[12-Mar-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking "you run liquid oxygen thru the walls or it melts"


[12-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hence the only non-reusable Shuttle bit is the big dumb tank of Hydrogen. Sadly, the Shuttle itself is so hard to refurbish, and SRBs so not worth it to begin with, that it was a terrible idea still.


[12-Mar-19 11:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47547887

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MPs reject May’s EU withdrawal deal again
Theresa May's Brexit deal is defeated in the Commons by 149 votes, with 17 days to go until the UK leaves the EU.
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[12-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Honahue#0656
It's appropriate that necklace she's wearing looks like rocks so she can drown in her own stupidity


[12-Mar-19 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Theresa May? More like, Theresa Never Will


[12-Mar-19 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[12-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Honahue#0656
Theresa May Die


[12-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Devil May Cry? Devil May piss your pants maybe?


[12-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Theresa May? More like Bore Ragnarok


[12-Mar-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.register-herald.com/news/state_region/house-of-delegates-passes-bill-without-updated-human-health-water/article_793de696-6c5a-5189-bac1-e937c92822cc.html?fbclid=IwAR1A-eHl-ec9z8f7awkpSYozN9kn46IgywjhKWaxpUIpKzG10JC9GyaqdHQ

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House of Delegates passes bill without updated human health water ...
CHARLESTON — The West Virginia House of Delegates on Tuesday passed a rules bill that includes a provision opposed by advocates for clean water.
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[12-Mar-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But in November, the West Virginia Manufacturers Association asked the joint rule-making review committee not to implement the standards. 

They argue that the EPA encourages states to incorporate state-specific science, and that because West Virginians are heavier, their bodies can handle more pollutants, and that because they drink less water, they are less exposed to the pollutants. They have commissioned a worker to gather that state-specific information.


[12-Mar-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Guys, it's ok. These very nice water dumpers informed us that you guys can drink poison and live! isn't that great!?"


[13-Mar-19 12:32 AM] moonatik#3676

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[13-Mar-19 12:32 AM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

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Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme
The main theme song to Larry David's show.
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[13-Mar-19 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
ThE  eU iS DoUbLe ThE HiErArcHY


[13-Mar-19 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
ThE WOrlD As CitY StAtEs OnCe AgAiN


[13-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>UK
>An effective hierarchy at all


[13-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying that is like saying you don't need the professor to grade your papers, a student group run by the dumbest kid in class can do it on his own.


[13-Mar-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/I_HdqYCDcVE

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Brexit: PragerU vs. Reality
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[13-Mar-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020-1217027

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Ryan warns Trump could be beat in 2020
“The person who defines that race is going to win the race. If this is about Donald Trump and his personality, he isn’t going to win it,” Ryan said.
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[13-Mar-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope trump doesn;t win 2020, but i also knwo this is america and we're dumbasses


[13-Mar-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
This is america 🇺🇸


[13-Mar-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
That's canada 🇨🇦


[13-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
cawnada


[13-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/cjndk8o

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A bank was looted in Venezuela, and then the people burned the money to show it was worthless.
https://i.imgur.com/lirey5Zh.jpg


[13-Mar-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
"Bolivar of broken dreams"


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
"amazing literal symbolism. the government has truly failed when the people are uninterested in the money"


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
"That could also be the mark of a true utopia, e.g. Star Trek. But the quality of life is the obvious distinction here."


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/cjndk8o/comment/1605905889>


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
>There was some form of currency in that show, they just never showed it, and stated it did not exist.


[13-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is this alternative fact shit


[13-Mar-19 01:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Zimbabwe billionaires.


[13-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
"hurr durr it didn't exist in the show so they lied when they stated there wasn't any money"


[13-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
was there a way to harness energy from stars and shit in star trek?


[13-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
like a dyson swarm?


[13-Mar-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek used "credits"


[13-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically only exist to trade with other nations


[13-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
internally, the Federation isn't stated to hav any actual currency


[13-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
which raises many questions


[13-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many questions.


[13-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a DS9 episode whose plot is "if we had money this'd be way less stupid, but we don't, so it's time to partake on a quest that would be too dumb to put in a Zelda game"


[13-Mar-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/03/college-admissions-scandal-fbi-targets-wealthy-parents/584695/

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Why the College-Admissions Scandal Is So Absurd
For the parents charged in a new FBI investigation, crime was a cheaper and simpler way to get their kids into elite schools than the typical advantages wealthy applicants receive.
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[13-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60w0DZX5-SM

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[13-Mar-19 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys


[13-Mar-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
students wanted a TENURE REVIEW


[13-Mar-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the end of the world!


[13-Mar-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the guy's entire channel is just outrage bait


[13-Mar-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't understand why people like this


[13-Mar-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
you watch something one-sided just to make you angry? and then it turns out that it was misrepresented?


[13-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
pretty much


[13-Mar-19 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know who timcast is, all i know is 'm probably never watchign it


[13-Mar-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
I have to turn off his videos within a minute because they're so sickeningly reactionary


[13-Mar-19 05:24 AM] Mikey#7286
Liberals ANGRY at conservatives and proceed to call for THINGS to happen!


[13-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guys stop making fun of conservatives


[13-Mar-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every time you do it Ben Shapiro's face gets slightly smaller.


[13-Mar-19 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah I stopped that video 1 second in


[13-Mar-19 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Mar-19 05:40 AM] Mikey#7286
he looks a bit like Seth Mcfarlane there lol


[13-Mar-19 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because it is


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[13-Mar-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[13-Mar-19 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a joke from a Peter Coffin stream a couple months ago. I happened to be home sick, so when there was an exchange between Peter and the audience watching the stream on whether or not Charlie Kirk looks like Seth McFarlane or not I booted up Photoshop and shrunk his face and posted it to the chat.


[13-Mar-19 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Mar-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] it's the same thing as the r/entitledparent or such vids


[13-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you find some example where something maybe shitty in your opinion happened


[13-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you're the storyteller, and you tell a story of people being bad to get the audience riled up, which has definitely been altered or entirely fabricated to maximize audience rage


[13-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the audience feels good about being GOOD people unlike those BAD people


[13-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The difference is that the r/entitledparent stuff is pretty much all likely fabricated


[13-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas this political stuff is real, but horrifically misrepresented and spun and smudged


[13-Mar-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They both achieve the same goal tho


[13-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what YouTube encourages contentwise.


[13-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's unhealthy normie bullshit.


[13-Mar-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Better this than antivaxx.


[13-Mar-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/us/politics/senate-yemen-vote-saudi-arabia.html

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Senate to Vote Again to End Aid to Saudi War in Yemen
The Senate will vote to cut off military aid for Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen, in another rebuke of the president’s defense of the kingdom over the killing of a dissident journalist.
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[13-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
my mom has come to the conclusion that because khashoggi was a "contributor" for the washington post that he wasn't actually a reporter, on top of coming to the conclusion that because he speaks against the prince, and the prince supports allowing women to drive in saudi arabia, khashoggi must hate the idea of women driving


[13-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
the overall conclusion being that she doesn't care that he was killed by saudi arabia and doesn't understand why everyone is up in arms about it


[13-Mar-19 09:43 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Am I the only one that hates American and patriotism?


[13-Mar-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/433754-cdc-reports-228-measles-cases-in-12-states

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CDC reports 228 measles cases in 12 states
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has confirmed 228 cases of measles in 12 states so far this year.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/measles_vaccine_01122019_1.jpg


[13-Mar-19 09:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Nebbie 

Antivaxx people?


[13-Mar-19 10:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Anyway, I hate the fact that Americans trashed the Philippines


[13-Mar-19 10:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Way long from 1901


[13-Mar-19 10:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, american patriotism is incredibly annoying


[13-Mar-19 10:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
almost cult like in a way


[13-Mar-19 11:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gizmodo.com/owner-of-maga-friendly-yelp-knockoff-threatens-to-call-1833247075/amp


[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lmao


[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
"A French researcher who goes by the Mr. Robot-themed handle Elliot Alderson tweeted that they’d reviewed the Android build of the app and discovered several urgent issues—the first being that the credentials of the app’s designer, Scott Wallace, appeared hard-coded into the application itself."


[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[13-Mar-19 07:57 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1105904905888415744?s=21

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[13-Mar-19 08:16 PM] illumnious#7938

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[13-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi being spineless plus conservative talking heads helps.


[13-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Helps him I mean.


[13-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[13-Mar-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless Ingraham and Carlson call for impeachment his base will never allow it.


[13-Mar-19 08:21 PM] illumnious#7938
From 2015 and still going

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[13-Mar-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives forgot their ODS, eh


[13-Mar-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Tea Partiers


[13-Mar-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can people not talk critically about the president?


[13-Mar-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like it you're following some wonk what do you expect


[13-Mar-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the problems is conservative politicians have convinced their base that they're a minority that needs every desperate wint hey can get


[13-Mar-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they get defensive because they think of themselves as the underdog little guy


[13-Mar-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in reality they're the bottom of a horrifyingly  crafted pyramid scheme built up by years of corporate abuse using atleast 20 different masks


[13-Mar-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Typical "our enemies are both weak and all powerful world eaters" garbage.


[13-Mar-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we learned from ancient rome alright, but we learned it in the wrogn direction


[13-Mar-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Laugh at your enemies they could never hurt you


[13-Mar-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But your enemies are geniuses out to get you!


[13-Mar-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats arent entirely free of this either but they play it slightly more subtly  at least for now anyway, they seem to be getting less subtle about it as time goes on


[13-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dignity doesn't win elections.


[13-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP governs without civility, Democrats are civil without government.


[13-Mar-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, send as many mixed signals as you can while claiming to be the good guy and things tend to fall in line if you craft your narrative well enough


[13-Mar-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt help that we're in another party shift


[13-Mar-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where the democrats and republicans are changing their values to fit their needs


[13-Mar-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People really have wanted polarized parties


[13-Mar-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's really disturbing


[13-Mar-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neo libs/conservativism pissed people off


[13-Mar-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People want hard left and right


[13-Mar-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Been too long for people to remember what polarization leads to.


[13-Mar-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem is hard left now is mroe center right rather than actuall left


[13-Mar-19 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/13/paul-manafort-sentenced-washington-d-c-federal-court/3129094002/

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Paul Manafort sentenced to a total of 7.5 years in prison: 'It is ...
Paul Manafort, President Trump's former campaign chairman,was sentenced for the second time on Wednesday. He had faced another 10 years in prison.
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[13-Mar-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently paul manafort was an agent of the ukraine working under Putin


[13-Mar-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/us/california-death-penalty.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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California Death Penalty Suspended; 737 Inmates Get Stay of Execution
Gov. Gavin Newsom has said he didn’t know what he would do if he had to sign a death warrant. Opponents of execution hope his move will echo through the country.
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[13-Mar-19 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP governs without shame
Dems shame without governing


[13-Mar-19 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
That's the quote


[13-Mar-19 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
I’ll slip this here https://twitter.com/preetbharara/status/1105845956015210498?s=21

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Now I really want to see Donald Trump’s school transcripts.
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[13-Mar-19 09:25 PM] illumnious#7938
I really want to see it


[13-Mar-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thanks @byte[]


[13-Mar-19 10:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Also, if they find Trump’s school transcript and post the shit online and the fucking news, I’ll laugh my ass off until I die


[13-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohl-faked-death-threats-against-himself

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Jacob Wohl Faked Death Threats Against Himself
One came from a phony account the wingnut provocateur created and ran just before he was banned from Twitter.
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[13-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[13-Mar-19 10:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder if someday we'll reach critical mass and all of this'll stop when we no longer care.


[13-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually death threats will sadly be so common they won't even be reported on.


[13-Mar-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is the land of extremes so common, we're becoming unphased by them


[13-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that over 50% of all accounts on the internets are bots


[13-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
so if you get a death threat, there's a 50% chance that it's a bot


[13-Mar-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly idiocracy is tame compared to how things look right now


[13-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
that's because the worst is over by the time idiocracy happens


[13-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
of course, this assumes that idiocracy actually considers how intelligence actually works


[13-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
which it doesn't


[13-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
going to college actually increases your IQ by a few points iirc


[13-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
humans don't have to be naturally smart in order to get smart, that only affects natural affinity


[13-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
it's like how some people are amazing at being athletes due to how efficiently their bodies metabolize and absorb O2


[13-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're athletes or even want to be athletes


[13-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Haha.


[13-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he really think Howard Hughes was fictional?


[13-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
who's howard hughes? I've heard the name before


[13-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy who founded TWA


[13-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Completely mentally ill


[13-Mar-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trans world airlines?


[13-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Later in life was a recluse who kept his urine in jars and had the same movie play on a loop constantly in his penthouse suite


[13-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C671USK8Ozo

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[13-Mar-19 11:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1105960676097441793?s=21

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Double Standard - Former FBI lawyer (Lisa Page) admits being told to go easy on Clinton.”  Very unfair!  @FoxNews
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[13-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obsessed


[13-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, should be charged with filing a false police report tbh


[13-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
you know, like that dumbass actor


[13-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
>Alexander distanced himself further from Wohl in an interview with The Daily Beast on Wednesday. Alexander, whose name is also on the police report, said he didn’t know whether or not Wohl faked the messages. But he said he’d be happy to work with police if they decide to investigate Wohl.


[13-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
lol


[13-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
yeah if the police decide to investigate, wohl's fucked


[13-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
he'd try to spin it as "omg im being repressed by the POLICE STATE"


[13-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
but that wouldn't fly with the pro-police right


[13-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
he'd basically be betraying one of the current pillars of the right to speak out against police now


[14-Mar-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the right doesn't care


[14-Mar-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they will happily flip on their positions to own the libs


[14-Mar-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they take only the things that benefit them and none of the things that hurt them


[14-Mar-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the right wouldnt turn on all [police they;d jsut call the one police unit a bunch of traitors to the country


[14-Mar-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
authority does not get along well with other authorities


[14-Mar-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when the other authority starts stepping on their toes


[14-Mar-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tolerate putin and china because they arent stepping on conservative toes, they're aiding thme behidn the scenes


[14-Mar-19 12:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1hAS73dOkY

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[14-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/7kmj1m9grsx11.jpg

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[14-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
is this venezuela?


[14-Mar-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's up with the slightly bimboified woman buying so much bread


[14-Mar-19 02:00 AM] ononim#8141
Oh sweet summer children


[14-Mar-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
oh goodness


[14-Mar-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
if you don't know it's a long story


[14-Mar-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's bimbo bread


[14-Mar-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bimbobakeriesusa.com/brands


[14-Mar-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Bimbo

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Grupo Bimbo
Grupo Bimbo, S.A.B. de C.V., known as Bimbo, is a Mexican multinational bakery product manufacturing company headquartered in Mexico City, Mexico. It is the world's largest baking company and operates the largest bakeries in the United States, Mexico, Canada, Chile and Spain,...
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[14-Mar-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
It's wonder bread stop lying


[14-Mar-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's true


[14-Mar-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the wonder bimbo


[14-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts

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Trump said he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, Social Security, and Medica...
Trump said he wouldn’t be like "every other Republican." He is.
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[14-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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I'm SHOCKED! - Futurama
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[14-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
I get the general sentiment, but reminder that italy's exporting fascism again


[14-Mar-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/30089090699366400

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Renewable energy: dumbest phrase since climate change. See the first law of thermodynamics, dumbass. #tcot #teaparty
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[14-Mar-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
god, this guy's so stupid


[14-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
oh, that's from 2011 too


[14-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised he didn't delete it lol


[14-Mar-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tea party hashtag checks out


[14-Mar-19 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/science-socialmedia/

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Sick and tired: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say
Scientists researching treatments for chronic fatigue syndrome say they face online abuse and harassment. Some are leaving the field
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[14-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] 

this condition reminds me of how you described yourself 🤔


[14-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
first time I hear of such thing tbh


[14-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't understand why activists do that if their methods are working?


[14-Mar-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DRL6ocEK-M

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Trump On The World
Looking down on creation Credit to Huffington Post for "China" compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
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[14-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Some say that all empowered men act like Trump, he is just not hiding it. What do you think of this?


[14-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2019/03/14/trump-issues-warning-to-opponents-it-would-be-very-bad-if-his-military-police-and-biker-supporters-got-tough.html

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Trump issues warning to opponents: ‘It would be very bad’ if h...
U.S. president uttered the remark in an interview with Breitbart News, which said he was arguing that “the left” plays politics in a “tougher” and more “vicious” manner than the pro-Trump right.
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[14-Mar-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's not even hiding it anymore, he is issuing commands to his followers to get violent towards disagreers


[14-Mar-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9222620-trump-issues-warning-to-opponents-it-would-be-very-bad-if-his-military-police-and-biker-supporters-got-tough-/

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Trump issues warning to opponents: ‘It would be very bad’ if h...
U.S. president uttered the remark in an interview with Breitbart News, which said he was arguing that “the left” plays politics in a “tougher” and more “vicious” manner than the pro-Trump right.
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[14-Mar-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
non subscribing source


[14-Mar-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump uttered the remark in an interview with Breitbart News, a right-wing website that supports him. It came, according to Breitbart, as Trump was arguing that "the left" plays politics in a "tougher" and more "vicious" manner than the pro-Trump right even though "the tough people" are on Trump's side.

"I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad," Trump said.

Trump did not specify who "they" were or what the "certain point" might be.
Breitbart did not emphasize the quote, which it published in an article headlined "Exclusive — President Donald Trump: Paul Ryan Blocked Subpoenas of Democrats." The quote prompted criticism and alarm when the Star tweeted it.


[14-Mar-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Making martyrs won't turn out well.


[14-Mar-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
weimar republic when


[14-Mar-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's trying to run both a mafia and a presidency... it's disturbing to watch


[14-Mar-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any other president would have been impeached by now


[14-Mar-19 08:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/stevenmelnik/status/1095033654143795200?s=21

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[14-Mar-19 08:05 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s lying


[14-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
how much was he paid to say that


[14-Mar-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
probably like $50


[14-Mar-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
that could bribe most of america right now


[14-Mar-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/senate-vote-trump-national-emergency/index.html

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Senate votes to block Trump's national emergency: Live updates
The Senate has passed a resolution to block Trump's national emergency, and 12 Republicans joined Democrats and rebuked Trump on a central issue of his presidency. Follow here for the latest.
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[14-Mar-19 09:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's hard to believe that this is the first veto of Trump's presidency


[14-Mar-19 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess up to this point he's tried to do everything himself or had the full support of GOP think tanks, so


[14-Mar-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s getting harder to keep his back sicne his requests keep getting more and more insane


[14-Mar-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if congress backs him on this it opens a flood gate for how future presidents runt hings


[14-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, he veto'd something before


[14-Mar-19 10:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hm. Guess that's CNN for ya


[14-Mar-19 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually, no, I can't find any reference to a prior veto. He's certainly *threatened* veto many times


[14-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
huh


[14-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I think it was a budget thing


[14-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
back when the shutdown happened


[14-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-continues-retreat-on-government-shutdown-threat-pledges-to-renew-border-control-battle-in-2019/2018/12/20/3143a752-0457-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html


[14-Mar-19 10:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah he threatened


[14-Mar-19 10:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I seem to remember that going through


[14-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[14-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
it was blocked in the senate


[14-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
so it never got to his desk


[14-Mar-19 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
thonks mcconnell


[14-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
oh, no it wasn't https://www.apnews.com/fe0f970089634be19bd44935694a0afe

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The Latest: Senate approves stopgap spending bill
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the fight over funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall and a potential partial government shutdown (all times local): 10:03 p.m. The Senate has approved legislation to temporarily fund the government and avoid a federal shutdown over President ...
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[14-Mar-19 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I guess either way, McConnell's out of tricks on this one https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/02/politics/trump-presidents-veto-congress-history-override-national-emergency/index.html

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Mitch McConnell can't protect Trump from vetoes anymore
President Donald Trump has a perfect veto-free record so far, the result of support from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and, until they lost their majority, Republicans in the US House.
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[14-Mar-19 10:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also it's probably not great to have your presidency compared to Garfield's


[14-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
it was specifically because it was a neutered post-nixon reform bill


[14-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
it got neutered by the supreme court a few years after it was passed, saying that the house and senate can't override a president unilaterally and giving him the ability to veto it


[14-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
but the part saying that it absolutely must be voted on within 15 days of a single senator objecting is still in the bill


[14-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
the vote can't be blocked legally


[14-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like that should be expanded to all bills


[14-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
maybe pass a law saying that it isn't legal for the majority leader of the senate to unilaterally block bills


[14-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
I think the senate majority leader the last time it was democrat-controlled did the same thing that mcconnell is doing


[14-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
he had something like 300 bills tabled


[14-Mar-19 10:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It does seem like an odd concentration of power


[14-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
and iirc the senate majority leader isn't even an official position under the constitution


[14-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
"odd"


[14-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat, the entire point of everything going on is concentration of power


[14-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
same with the house majority leader (only the speaker of the house is named under the constitution)


[14-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The powerful concentrate power.


[14-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
the house majority leader is usually different from the speaker


[14-Mar-19 10:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Obviously. Let me have my understatements.


[14-Mar-19 10:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do have to wonder, though, what other things contribute to senators being so much more well-heeled to the party line than the house


[14-Mar-19 10:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that congress in general hasn't devolved into purely partisan childishness, with votes swinging one way or the other based on quantum fluctuations more or less


[14-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony larger election campaigns that weed out candidates better and can control the message better, longer terms (which among other things mean better name recognition), more direct ties to businesses and gov't organizations due to the Senate usually being granted more authority on things.
Some of the least partisan senators are from states like mine, where there's a smaller population, but they're still crazy partisan.


[14-Mar-19 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what can we poke with a stick (or an Ocasio-Cortez) to mitigate this


[14-Mar-19 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or rather, what avenues do we have to police congress


[14-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, therein lies the issue


[14-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
if terms are super-short, people wast all their time campaigning


[14-Mar-19 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I don't exactly see anything other than the SCOTUS ruling some aspect or other of congress unconstitutional


[14-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
but if terms are longer, people get controlled by the party campaigning for them


[14-Mar-19 10:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and they sure aren't going to make life harder for *themselves*


[14-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to work at it really indirectly.


[14-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need to start by destroying party primaries


[14-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And getting everything to use some form of runoff, instant runoff, or alternative


[14-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nuking sore loser laws would likely be the first attainable step.


[14-Mar-19 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can't say as I've heard of these laws


[14-Mar-19 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know what a lame duck congress is and that's about it


[14-Mar-19 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, I see


[14-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ballot Access laws in general are incredibly shitty


[14-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy who theorized on them meant them in order to help people get on the ballot


[14-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
when they were starting to be created, however, they were used to make sure certain people *couldn't* get on the ballot, so that the parties would always win.


[14-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of those Gilded Age things where the corrupt society turned good ideas into horrifying ones


[14-Mar-19 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So what's the right course of action to nuke 'em in a way that doesn't result in messy, targeted split votes in the general election


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or is that kind of the idea


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is exactly the idea


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
well


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
ideally everyone would just do approval voting


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
or 3,2,1 voting if they wanna be fancy


[14-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
or IRV if they figure that strategic voting is a good thing


[14-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or actual runoffs if they figure that strategic voting is good, but that we should be slow and dumb and wasteful about it.


[14-Mar-19 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what if we got rid of primaries entirely


[14-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
All four of those options do so.


[14-Mar-19 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I see


[14-Mar-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Approval voting: select all candidates you're okay with


[14-Mar-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
3,2,1 voting: rate candidates as good or bad, we'll find the highest-ranked least-controversial of the good ones


[14-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV: Rank candidates in the order you want to vote for them in case they keep losing


[14-Mar-19 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How would you sell any of these to someone who's convinced that this means extra votes per voter and therefore voter fraud


[14-Mar-19 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE etc


[14-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is easy for that since technically your vote just changes candidate depending on the virtual runoffs


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The other two you'd hav to convince them that it's not actually a problem that one person can select two favorite candidates, and that it's not inherently advantageous to do so


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is generally what most actual countries do


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or they hand things over to parties with like mixed-member proportional


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's also Borda Count, but fukk Borda Count.


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, yeah, that one seems the most stupid-proof in terms of casting the ballot


[14-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Borda Count is elections for people who want to pretend they're above strategic voting, but don't actually hav a solution.


[14-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, approval voting is much, much simpler than IRV


[14-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both to vote and to tally


[14-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but nobody does it pretty much


[14-Mar-19 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
approval voting sounds like it'd be problematic for voters who just smash all the buttons, and thus effectively contribute an averaging tally...


[14-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it makes strategic voting essentially useless


[14-Mar-19 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, how do these systems hold up to boot-drinking windowlickers


[14-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you can "bullet" vote, only approve one candidate, but then you've put all your eggs in one basket


[14-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh these hold up fine


[14-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Approval voting actually works BETTER when some people are dumb


[14-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the bullet votes help separate candidate tallies while the VOTE EVERYONE votes are effectively discarded


[14-Mar-19 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what about an "anyone but x" vote


[14-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
3,2,1 voting might get blown to pieces by dumb votes tho


[14-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone but X works fine


[14-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just bumps up the candidates that aren't X, helping to weed out controversial candidates.


[14-Mar-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hm


[14-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
3,2,1 voting meanwhile deliberately has a step to weed them out.


[14-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You select the 3 with the most "good" ratings


[14-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then the 2 of them with the least "bad" ratings


[14-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you figure out which has a higher overall ranking by how people rated both


[14-Mar-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trump can veto this recent measure... i feel the president should not be able to do this...


[14-Mar-19 10:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah, actually, this is the one time where it seems like the checks and balances are working fine


[14-Mar-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, fair enough


[14-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
IMO all emergencies should require SCOTUS approval


[14-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making Congress do this is retarded.


[14-Mar-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah this feels liek a scotus thing


[14-Mar-19 10:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would think anything called a "national emergency" should probably involve all 3 branches


[14-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, no


[14-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress is intended to be slow, methodical, to prevent rash action


[14-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress' literal function at a very very very high level is it's *brakes*


[14-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not to create laws


[14-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
but to spend so much time on their creation that people are pretty sure they're necessary.


[14-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like half the point of a Democracy


[14-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't one day decide X offense can be executable over, that Y is okay, all the time.


[14-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Congress should not be involved in calling an emergency


[14-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but SCOTUS absolutely should


[14-Mar-19 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, maybe I'm reading more into how big of a deal a national emergency *should* be


[14-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then Congress should be able to eventually call it off and stop things.


[14-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The previous one was 9 11, Wing.


[14-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody expected the president to do this until Trump, basically.


[14-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
wasn't new orleans declared a national emergency after katrina?


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, everyone praises IRV, and yeah it's better than plurality


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's shit


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's a similar term


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States
List of national emergencies in the United States
A national emergency is a situation in which a government is empowered to perform actions not normally permitted. The 1976 National Emergencies Act implemented various legal requirements regarding emergencies declared by the President of the United States.Between the enactmen...


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV has one glaring flaw


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
there's a bunch of them


[14-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
by bush


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
most of them are sanctions


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, if a candidate is chosen as every single person's second choice


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"state of emergency"


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
obama declared one for H1N1


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That candidate always loses in IRV


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
in 2010


[14-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if all other candidates are overall ranked lower


[14-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because at any given step, IRV only cares about the top ranking


[14-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and this is why IRV is so strategic


[14-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you're essentially putting 2nd and 3rd place votes as contingency plans


[14-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
not as actual support


[14-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
you mean like what maine's doing?


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
an IRV vote doesn't tell you who someone wants and by how much


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think all of the national emergencies are mostly overreactions


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just tells you what they want to happen as candidates lose.


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is also a way people can fail to understand the ballot itself


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
is there something between IRV and 1,2,3


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think "national emergency" and think "find the designated survivor"


[14-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause they may believe they're ranking candidates by amount of preference


[14-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they're actually ranking candidates by order of vote transfer


[14-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so, Wingbeat


[14-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
3,2,1 and IRV are in entirely different ballparks


[14-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, they're complete opposite approaches to later-no-harm


[14-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The later-no-harm criterion says that giving a ranking to a less preferred candidate should never help them over a more-preferred one


[14-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is the natural result of attempting to satisfy the criterion.


[14-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
By turning your preferences into an ordering for transfer of your vote.


[14-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
3,2,1, Approval, Borda etc. are predicated on **intentionally** failing later-no-harm


[14-Mar-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember that "glaring flaw" I just mentioned...that's later-no-harm


[14-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is that if everybody kinda is okay with John Doe instead of either Trump or Hillary, even tho nobody wants John Doe over the other


[14-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
maybe we should elect John Doe instead


[14-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas IRV would likely just hand over John Doe's votes to Hillary and make her win.


[14-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho half the voters hated her


[14-Mar-19 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was gonna say


[14-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV by design wants controversial candidates people love or hate


[14-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
just like Plurality does


[14-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
except IRV is a taaaad less stupid and allows for third parties.


[14-Mar-19 11:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I googled borda count and I guess it kinda is the "in between" of 1,2,3 and IRV but boy it is stupid


[14-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if political ads in the US were unchanged, borda would make an absolute mess of the results


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus unrelated but man Notch went fucking mental this week


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he's legitimately mentally ill


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude Notch has always been mental


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
did you not keep up on it while he was making Minecraft?


[14-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy's a loon.


[14-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't think it was this bad


[14-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's also STV, Wing


[14-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Friends don't let friends vote using STV.


[14-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like IRV but much stupider and with parties integrated and it's what Australia uses.


[14-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it always obsession with trans people for people like Notch


[14-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they're controversial and he's rich.


[14-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people hav nobody telling them they're wrong.


[14-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they form very solid opinions about whatever they hear everyone chatting about.


[14-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no actual thought involved.


[14-Mar-19 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
STOP BEING POOR


[14-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, you may know Approval Voting as what CCPGray recommended as "normal voting for real people" for like selecting restaurants.


[14-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the real easy way to make sure nobody gets horrifically upset.


[14-Mar-19 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the system I like the most but the one I see the most visions of protesters chanting "ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE"


[14-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
In actual practice the protesters would be ignored.


[14-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, the big problem is IRV is much cheaper to switch to from Plurality.


[14-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Despite being massively more complicated


[14-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cheaper and more politically palatable


[14-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV may kill the Republican party dead, but it'll still elect Democrats most of the time.


[14-Mar-19 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, actually, given that the country is currently very partisan and gerrymandered, I think any new system is bad news for the GOP


[14-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but IRV is *really* bad for them


[14-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause then you can run multiple Democrats and both of them sukk away GOP support


[14-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause on average, people are mostly Democrat, and IRV hugely reflects that


[14-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just run three brands of Democrat, no Republican can ever compete


[14-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which brand of Democrat you end up with isn't all that important in the long run, tho IRV will usually make it the really liberal brand.


[14-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is hilarious, if broken.


[14-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Plurality: Moderate Democrat vs. Moderate Republican, coin toss.
IRV: Liberal Democrat vs. Moderate Democrat vs. Centrist vs. Moderate Republican vs. Trump's Hair Become Unto Humanity, Liberal Democrat creams everyone


[14-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless the Moderate Democrat is Hillary


[14-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
in which case Hillary creams everyone, cause she's more controversial than any Bernie-alike


[14-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
(so yes, very broken, and hilarious)


[14-Mar-19 11:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so basically the way to win IRV is to go WE'RE HERE, WE'RE QUEER, WE'RE SOCIALIST, GET USED TO IT


[14-Mar-19 11:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(to paraphrase something I heard chanted in several parades)


[14-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[14-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
you be on the more popular side of the political divide, and become controversial


[14-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause IRV doesn't care that people are okay with or not okay with you


[14-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
only that people love you


[14-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You do this every year! We are used to it!"


[14-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Humans evolved to love underdogs, those seen hated


[14-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means the best strategy in IRV as a candidate is to be extremely hated, yet hav sane policies so there's a bigger base love


[14-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hate generates the extra love to put you over the top vs. the exact opposite candidate.


[14-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, vs. your moderate competitors.


[14-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary could only hav been more perfect as an IRV candidate if she had adopted a few more Bernie policies.


[14-Mar-19 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sounds like it'd do nothing to stop the next Trump if the next Trump had blue hair


[14-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
While also being wrapped up in a child sex scandal


[14-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Correct, Wing


[14-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a *good* IRV candidate


[14-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jeb Bush is the polar opposite


[14-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd never win an IRV election.


[14-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He might win some plurality ones.


[14-Mar-19 11:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
is this how we get president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho?


[14-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[14-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways


[14-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is like the way I like my movie reviews


[14-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
the worst thing you can do is bore your audience, sometimes it's so bad it's good, etc.


[14-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Great approach to movies, terrible approach to politicians.


[14-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exciting yet horrible politicians are not what we need.


[14-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians should be boring yet good.


[14-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, yes Trump is basically The Room as a politician.


[14-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
YOU'RE TEARING THIS COUNTRY APART, LISA. BUILD THE WALL.


[14-Mar-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Runs the country" and "is very entertaining on reality television" should be mutually exclusive categories.


[14-Mar-19 11:37 PM] ononim#8141
>making people have initiative to vote for something they actually want instead of trying to "not waste a vote" is bad, actually


[14-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to American logic


[14-Mar-19 11:39 PM] ononim#8141
You're the one who shitted on it in this channel neb (if IRV is the thing australians have aka you can rate candidated on how much you'd vote for them)


[14-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Australians hav STV, it's not quite the same.


[14-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is the cheap and dirty solution most countries turn to when plurality is falling apart


[14-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In IRV, the core problem is you don't rate them based on how much you'd vote for them


[14-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You *rank* them based on who you'd like your vote to go for as contingency plans, to effectively do plurality N times


[14-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which allows you to not worry about splitting the vote, which is good


[14-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it carries all of plurality's other flaws


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
ah well if that's the casae sorry, I think I may misread spme of your posts


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also adds really bizarre seesawing behavior around the initial conditions and who the final winner is


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
~~but also~~


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
~~>humans evolved to love underdogs~~


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
which introduces chaos, a small change to who votes can hav large changes on who wins


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
~~are you soure of that.gif~~


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fairly, sure, the research was done on *babies*


[14-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Before any societal stuff came into the mix


[14-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
babies among humans prefer the hero in a clip that is less powerful


[14-Mar-19 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
~~as in are you sure that they love the underfog and not an underfog whose sans that is pretty socially acceptable and well off~~


[14-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
this the reverse of how Bonobos and Chimps act


[14-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bonobos want to line up behind the Bonobo with the most fruits and who's the best at raping


[14-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
human babies want to line up behind the human with the least fruits who's just been raped etc.


[14-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is before any other considerations


[14-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/08/27/641403338/toddlers-like-winners-but-how-they-win-matters

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Toddlers Like Winners, But How They Win Matters
Unlike other primates, human toddlers watching a competition don't appreciate victors who shove rivals out of the way. Even little kids prefer high-status characters who aren't bullies.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/08/24/gettyimages-880701004_wide-36617d1c24b219df444e25a416a6f9838466ecb3.jpg?s=1400


[14-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "winner" in this case getting his way via politeness etc.


[14-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Honahue#0656
that's not an underdog, that's still a winner we just don't like bullies


[14-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the thing is they *like* the loser when the loser loses to a bully.


[14-Mar-19 11:51 PM] ononim#8141
Ye so far as I read it looks like they don't like bullies not that they like unbderdogs


[14-Mar-19 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
they still rout for the winner if they didn't win via bullyiing


[15-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Monkeys throw their own poop.


[15-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes sense they're like this.


[15-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bonobos fukk their kids to teach them how to say hello.


[15-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They solve conflict by eventual consensual rape.


[15-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of hilarious when people get all shokked at, like, cats getting eaten by predators when humans are the species that is by far the most deadly to others and its own members.


[15-Mar-19 12:08 AM] ononim#8141
.q add  @Nebbie They solve conflict by eventual consensual rape.


[15-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@ononim, quote added (@Nebbie: They solve conflict by eventual consensual rape.)


[15-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of culture is about putting in some nice astroturf over large parts of human psychology.


[15-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Honahue#0656
it's true our culture does encourage and reward cutthroat and bullying


[15-Mar-19 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/front-page-of-polish-paper-runs-piece-on-how-to-spot-a-jew-1.7020529

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Front page of Polish paper runs piece on 'how to spot a Jew'
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https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.7020594.1552551254!/image/3251246733.PNG_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/3251246733.PNG


[15-Mar-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1106271626415333376

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[15-Mar-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meh, get back to me when it's anything like NK's portrayal of US human rights violations


[15-Mar-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you are lynching negroes.


[15-Mar-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, run that by me again


[15-Mar-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause it sounds an awful lot like the KKK is active in china


[15-Mar-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Russian propaganda meme


[15-Mar-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
from the cold war


[15-Mar-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
US: Soviets do not care about human rights.
Soviets: But you are lynching negroes.


[15-Mar-19 12:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean BLM activists have a record of being mysteriously lynched lately


[15-Mar-19 12:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
Media is awful hush about that


[15-Mar-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its modern form is Whataboutism.


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where you want to deflect criticism so you just go WHAT ABOUT BLM


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
And the US foreign policy couldn't care less about human rights


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, sure


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
doubly so if it's a false equivalency with a difference of at least two orders of magnitude


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Let alone the huge incarceration rate


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does not mean we should make an exception for China though


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about equivalency


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Both bad


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
there;s that spiderman meme


[15-Mar-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about saying the imperfect can't criticize the terrible.


[15-Mar-19 12:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's the Spiderman meme


[15-Mar-19 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that message got decontextualized 'cause of how long it took to type


[15-Mar-19 12:49 AM] ononim#8141
https://media1.tenor.com/images/837072ca19e3c5cebea76e2693f3100d/tenor.gif?itemid=11796793

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[15-Mar-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That people in houses not completely immune to meteor strikes shouldn't throw strongly-worded letters.


[15-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.pcgamesn.com/playerunknowns-battlegrounds/pubg-banned-india

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PUBG’s been banned in India, and at least 16 players have been a...
Arrests are mounting as Indian cities begin to ban PUBG
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[15-Mar-19 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good


[15-Mar-19 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fortniteism can spread there unhindered


[15-Mar-19 01:33 AM] ononim#8141
Y'all joke but Indian gov is this close to being outright fash


[15-Mar-19 01:33 AM] ononim#8141
Isn't the current ruling party is close to Hundutva or something


[15-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU

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U.N. says it has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs...
A United Nations human rights panel said on Friday that it had received many cre...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20180810&t=2&i=1292261237&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEE7917Y


[15-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
uh, some asshole in the replies to that tweet was saying that the UN didn't confirm the concentration camps in china


[15-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
>“We are deeply concerned at the many numerous and credible reports that we have received that in the name of combating religious extremism and maintaining social stability (China) has changed the Uighur autonomous region into something that resembles a massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy, a sort of ‘no rights zone’,” she told the start of a two-day regular review of China’s record, including Hong Kong and Macao.


[15-Mar-19 03:30 AM] illumnious#7938

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[15-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congratulations, this is the most cursed image I've seen in years.


[15-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I have seen an AI-generated Mr. Dink.


[15-Mar-19 04:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjJSSEejhnU
bout time

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjJSSEejhnU
"Drag Kid" Family Investigated By Child Protective Services
"Drag Kid" Family Investigated By Child Protective Services. Desmond Is Amazing's family announced on Instagram that they had been under investigation by Chi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jjJSSEejhnU/hqdefault.jpg


[15-Mar-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suppose in this instance it's fair enough but tim pool has been your primary source on everything so far... maybe he knows what he's talking about but I find this kind of reactionary reporting to be quite grating. If you can find a more neutral link for the future, I think you'd find a more receptive audience


[15-Mar-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[15-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
lol, looked it up and like 95% of the reports are from sites like "christian post", "daily wire", "infowars", etc


[15-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I generally find tim pool to be one of the more neutral sources out there.  That said I generrally share vids like these for the subject or content not who the person is. That said I do like tim pool and do share his stuff. the reason why i've do so lately is because i've had a backlog of his vids i've been going through.

So tldr don't shoot the messager or the reporter just discuss the subject at hand. thanks


[15-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
reactionary isn't neutral


[15-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
being reactionary, by definition, is incapable of being neutral


[15-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.christianpost.com/news/cps-clears-mom-of-11-year-old-drag-kid-who-danced-in-gay-bar-for-tips.html

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https://www.christianpost.com/news/cps-clears-mom-of-11-year-old-drag-kid-who-danced-in-gay-bar-for-tips.html
CPS clears mom of 11-year-old drag kid who danced in gay bar for tips
The mother of an “androgynous" gay drag kid who was videoed dancing in a gay bar before a crowd of men throwing dollar bills at him says she has been cleared of wrongdoing by child services.
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[15-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
most vids related to news and politics are reactionary.


[15-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah i'm not sure making three words ALL CAPS in your video title is neutral


[15-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Yuri#4154
^


[15-Mar-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
it's true that most videos about news and politics are reactionary


[15-Mar-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
which is why I don't watch videos about news and politics


[15-Mar-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I read articles instead


[15-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
>"The report was determined to be 'unfounded,'" a letter from Sheila McBain, director of the statewide central register of the New York Office of Children and Family Services reads. "This means that CPs did not find believable proof (credible evidence) that a child was abused or maltreated."


[15-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Mikey#7286
no political talking YT heads are neutral lol


[15-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-dont-make-mueller-report-public-without-setting-up-special-counsel-to-probe-hillary-clinton-emails

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Lindsey Graham: Don’t Make Mueller Report Public Without Setting...
‘Any American out there who did what Secretary Clinton did, you'd be in jail now,’ Graham declared.
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[15-Mar-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
this is political shitposting


[15-Mar-19 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/new-zealand-christchurch-shooting-intl/index.html

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Mass shootings at New Zealand mosques
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[15-Mar-19 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The shooter even put up a political manifesto full of NEET-y buzzwords, meme references, and all sorts of /pol/ack shit


[15-Mar-19 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And he's livestreaming it all on facebook for some reason. I think we're looking at the future of politically motivated terrorism.


[15-Mar-19 05:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, this is sad. In a marxist way of saying.


[15-Mar-19 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every alt-right dumbass on the internet who gets caught using memes like "remove kebab" is used to saying that they're just "shitposting", that's "it's just the internet" and we should not get our panties in a twist. But then comes shit like this, a solid argument that such a canard should be thrown into the trash.


[15-Mar-19 06:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far, the most conservative estimates on the shootings put the bodycount at 40.


[15-Mar-19 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And 3 arrests that I know of


[15-Mar-19 07:45 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
4 arrests now


[15-Mar-19 07:45 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
3 men and a woman according to the CBC report I was reading


[15-Mar-19 07:49 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
nvm, PM Ardern confirmed that one of the four people arrested weren't part of the attack.


[15-Mar-19 07:51 AM] Mikey#7286
jesus


[15-Mar-19 08:04 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384790/live-multiple-fatalities-three-arrested-after-shots-fired-at-mosques-in-central-christchurch

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Live: Multiple fatalities, three arrested after shots fired at mos...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed 40 people have died after the "terrorist" attack at two mosques in Christchurch today. Follow live updates here.


[15-Mar-19 08:04 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
Apparently there's a bomb scare in Auckland now too


[15-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
49 dead


[15-Mar-19 01:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
New Zealand should build a wall to stop the Australians.


[15-Mar-19 01:19 PM] ononim#8141
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[15-Mar-19 01:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1106516716237045761

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hey @Lauren_Southern where'd your video go? the one about the great replacement? i have a copy saved if you need it
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[15-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That guy would be John Birch Society in the US


[15-Mar-19 01:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467516200960917515/556092004770250753/b982ca34710628505759215c2a101485.png

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[15-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's his one last "fucking with the media" thing


[15-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seize on that in particular


[15-Mar-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fuck is the great replacement?


[15-Mar-19 02:00 PM] ononim#8141
Rebranding of "White genocide"


[15-Mar-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[15-Mar-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[15-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:2doubtfulMoon:


[15-Mar-19 02:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1106520743855251456?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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My warmest sympathy and best wishes goes out to the people of New Zealand after the horrible massacre in the Mosques. 49 innocent people have so senselessly died, with so many more seriously injured. The U.S. stands by New Zealand for anything we can do. God bless all!
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[15-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
He has such a way with words


[15-Mar-19 03:08 PM] DevField#5162
My fucking god


[15-Mar-19 03:08 PM] DevField#5162
of course.


[15-Mar-19 03:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The perp is going to say sub to PewDiePie on the stand isn't he


[15-Mar-19 03:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Soon


[15-Mar-19 03:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/JohnU53r/status/1106508843083694080

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@Jack_Septic_Eye @pewdiepie Spread this as far as u can
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[15-Mar-19 03:51 PM] DeadlyVodka#7572
http://i2.haber7.net/haber/haber7/photos/2019/11/NwVnQ_1552653668_9972.jpg

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[15-Mar-19 03:51 PM] DeadlyVodka#7572
20 hour ago


[15-Mar-19 03:51 PM] DeadlyVodka#7572
on 4chan


[15-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Marukomuru nah he was a true blue PDP fan


[15-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/trump-mueller-investigation-1222895

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Trump says 'there should be no Mueller report'
Trump has repeatedly called Mueller's probe into whether Russia colluded with the president's 2016 campaign a "witch hunt."
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[15-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't wait for it to be illegial to watch a PDP vid


[15-Mar-19 03:55 PM] DeadlyVodka#7572
I made a mistake and watched his 16 min livestream on yt


[15-Mar-19 03:55 PM] DeadlyVodka#7572
:lunasad:


[15-Mar-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There should be nothing ever that is about me except when i make it because it;s about me and should be by my own hands and not made by a criminal investigation" *insert never ending sentence that loops over and over again*


[15-Mar-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
WITCH HUNT!!@!!!!


[15-Mar-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
NO COLLUSION!!!!!


[15-Mar-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
It should be illegal for trump to open his mouth honestly


[15-Mar-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish


[15-Mar-19 05:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Any other Twitter user would be banned from Twitter for posting some of the things he did. Different rules for the president I guess.


[15-Mar-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm horribly tempted to ask when trump is mailing the support toilet paper to new zealand...


[15-Mar-19 06:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/b1cvpv/audio_of_british_soldiers_discussing_mass_killing/ new audio release after the conviction.

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r/ireland - Audio of British soldiers discussing mass killing of c...
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[15-Mar-19 07:26 PM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
I heard from my sister that Trump posted some Breitbart bullshit (which was quickly deleted) before posting the text post about the shooting.


[15-Mar-19 07:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.wsj.com/articles/want-to-understand-chinas-latest-politics-watch-this-rap-video-11552580695

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Want to Understand China’s Latest Politics? Watch This Rap Video
At Beijing’s annual ‘Two Sessions’ confab, delegates examine policies page-by-page, and the Communist Party just needs to get citizens to pay heed; maybe a song about ‘cloned macaques’ will help.
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[15-Mar-19 08:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wjE-33zicY

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NonCompete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wjE-33zicY
Stochastic T*rrorism and Christchurch
We have to find a way to fight against this poisonous culture that's infecting so many young minds. Here are two ways to donate to victims: The Socialist Rif...
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[15-Mar-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1106493537888190464


[15-Mar-19 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
>T\*rrorism


[15-Mar-19 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Avoiding YouTube censorship


[15-Mar-19 09:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
They're the same way about Mental Illness.


[15-Mar-19 09:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/eQNw2FBdpyE

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Philosophy Tube
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Suic!de and Ment@l He@lth | Philosophy Tube ★
Who decides what a ment@l illness is? Is suic!dality always a sign of insanity? ★★★ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/PhilosophyTube Subscribe! http://tinyurl....
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[15-Mar-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/434195-trump-republicans-waiting-with-open-arms-for-jexodus-from

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Trump: Republicans 'waiting with open arms' for 'Jexodus' from Dem...
President Trump on Friday urged Jewish voters to abandon the Democratic Party in favor of a "Jexodus" to the GOP while touting his administration's record on foreign policy surrounding Israel.
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[15-Mar-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In Trump's mind Jew = Israeli nationalist


[15-Mar-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wouldnt know a jew if it bit him on the nose


[15-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Honahue#0656
he's going to alienate his base by trying to cultivate a relationship with da joos


[15-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, even the neonazis can overlook this, because to them Israel is at least killing muslims


[15-Mar-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as he doesnt try to brign muslims to his side his voter base will probably support him


[15-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
they do hate muslims, obviously because NZ today, but they also really hate Israel


[15-Mar-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but not as much as muslims


[15-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Should start calling the GOP the Republic Party


[15-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Leaving off the "ic" is petty shit.


[15-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also education tends to be a better barometer of politics


[15-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Arvid#8335
So, huh


[15-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Arvid#8335
Two mass shootings inspired by the alt-right within less than the span of a year.


[15-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Arvid#8335
I remember back when someone told me on another Discord server "The right hasn't commited a terrorist attack in years" back in late 2017


[15-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Arvid#8335
Started with the Dodge Charger attack and seems to be getting progressively worse.


[15-Mar-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well part of that was half the time an idiot that was plannign one, broadcast it to facebook and they woudl arrest him before he got the chance


[15-Mar-19 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also we tended to label things like shooting up mosques as "hate crimes"


[15-Mar-19 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you remember all the attacks at mosques in the US post-9/11? I sure do


[15-Mar-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was too young to really be paying attention tot hose


[15-Mar-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like 10-11


[15-Mar-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i honestly didnt realize 9/11 happened till a few weeks later


[15-Mar-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I watched it live while making myself lunch (spanish tz)


[15-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
dark shit


[15-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
i was about 10 years old myself


[15-Mar-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tuned in for my normal shows, saw the start of it and thought it was a movie and changed the channel


[15-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Mikey#7286
i saw it on TV when I was waiting to go to school


[15-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
it was on the news


[15-Mar-19 11:41 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wow I'm hella young compared to you guys


[15-Mar-19 11:41 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was 1


[15-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I knew it was islamic shit when the news was still assuming it was a small prop plane that crashed


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they thought it was a small prop plane?


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Palestinian suicide bombers had been on the news for weeks


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
i'm nearly 28 lol


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
im 28


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
First few minutes, when it went out as breaking, there were no videos or real "witness reports"


[15-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stuff was just coming in as "a plane hit one of the towers"


[15-Mar-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt know it was even real when it came on


[15-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And news presenters were just "I guess it was some drunk guy in his little plane"


[15-Mar-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it took afew days to register


[15-Mar-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the concept of hijacking a jetliner and crashing it into a building just didn't exist beyond trashy novels


[15-Mar-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and action movies


[15-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was five.


[15-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Knew it was bad then.


[15-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even action movies


[15-Mar-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It just wasn't a thing


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anthrax attacks were scary too


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] byte[]#2610
now we have the toilet safety administration


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] byte[]#2610
thanks, terrorists


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The idea of someone planning to kill themselves in order to kill thousands just wasn't a thing


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only taste of it at the time was palestinian suicide bombers


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part of the TSA is none of them communicate with eachother so i get stopped at both ends because they didnt bother updatignt heir fucking database


[15-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
TSA doesn't really even work that well IIRC


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the tech that does the work


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might as well have AI running the machines


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus japanese kamikaze and manned torpedos


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was almost stuck in cleveland because they were sceptical of non drivers liscense IDs


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which were seen as "a product of their time" the same way as nazis


[15-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
how times change so quickly


[15-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In lighter news


[15-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So there's a new animated film out that is being railed for being bad partially because it has no director credited


[15-Mar-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[15-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are pretty sure it's like that because the original director got fired because of metoo


[15-Mar-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you had me at animated


[15-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder Park


[15-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oooh


[15-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a bunch of things i was wathcign got canned due to metoo just makign random accusations all at once


[15-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
I saw a trailer for it at the theater, I figured it would be bad cuse it's from Imagination Studios


[15-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
banana?


[15-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Honahue#0656
or Illumination? whomever makes Minions


[15-Mar-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea if they were true, but now there's no dirk gently and i'm still mad


[15-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Illumination is making the Mario film


[15-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet I trust them more with it than Sanic


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably with heavy supervision from nintendo


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Detective Pikachu could be good but damn


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pikachu saying "Damn"


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, he said "Hell"


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm hyped for detective pikachu


[15-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know, Ryan Reynolds as a star after the news of him last year...


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nintendo must be feeling pretty bad right now


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Deadpool


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what was his news?


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo is doing the best they have done since the Wii


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Microsoft is going to eventually partner with them in some way because Xbox isn't doing well


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He said "fuck"


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Honahue#0656
>tfw Ryan Reynolds in Waiting was what made me realize long before the Deadpool movie that he should play Deadpoo;


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in deadpool?


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, Fred from Scooby Doo catch phrase


[15-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deadpool is rated R


[15-Mar-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i first saw ryan reynolds in green lantern


[15-Mar-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i considered it a fun bad movie


[15-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I first saw Ryan Reynolds playing Deadpool in a movie that wasn't about Deadpool


[15-Mar-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[15-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiEuzkJDwUg

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[15-Mar-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[15-Mar-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was great


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen the whole movie


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, wat


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i know is they remove his mouth and thne he fights woverine


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
did nintendo hire him without knowing his background?


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
HE SAID FUCK


[15-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a joke


[15-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
also, the part in x-men origins where he gets his mouth sewn shut is dumb


[15-Mar-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his fight with wolverine could have been hilarious but nooo


[15-Mar-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deadpool works best in motion format from what i;ve seen, though i liek soem of his comics


[16-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.kmbc.com/article/missouri-lawmaker-introduces-bill-that-would-residents-to-own-ar-15-and-handguns/26837406

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Missouri lawmaker introduces bill that would require residents to ...
The bill would also give AR-15 owners in Missouri a tax credit.
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[16-Mar-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[16-Mar-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why the actuall fuck


[16-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know how bills restricting abortion get responded to with borderline joke bills about banning vacsectomies?


[16-Mar-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same thing.


[16-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Sorry, this content is not available in your region."


[16-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. "Sorry, we collect and share data on you and cannot be arsed with letting you opt out"


[16-Mar-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A lawmaker wants to require some Missouri residents to own AR-15 guns.

Andrew McDaniel, (R-Deering), introduced House Bill 1108 on Feb. 28. According to the bill’s description, it would establish the McDaniel Militia Act, “which requires every person between 18 and 35 years of age who can legally possess a firearm to own an AR-15 and authorizes a tax credit for a purchase of an AR-15.”

Documents presented during the bill’s proposal said any person who qualifies as a Missouri resident on Aug. 28, 2019, and who does not own an AR-15, would have a year to purchase one. In addition, anyone who becomes a Missouri resident after Aug. 28, 2019, would have to purchase an AR-15 within a year.

In addition, McDaniel filed a bill that would require every person 21 years of age and older to own a handgun if they are legally able to. That bill, House Bill 1052, was introduced two days prior to House Bill 1108.

According to the Missouri House of Representatives website, neither bill is currently scheduled for a hearing or is on a House calendar.


[16-Mar-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
full article


[16-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck that


[16-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you want a law that forces me to have an AR-15, that shit better be free


[16-Mar-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I would almost want to play devil's advocate to get this passed


[16-Mar-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why does everyone who wants to force you to have a thing never willighn to pony up themselves for the thing...?


[16-Mar-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Just to make a specific example out of MO when their gun deaths go through the roof


[16-Mar-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like retasil and work uniforms


[16-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone wants to be in the Purge, nobody realizes they're the ones getting purged


[16-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Purge / zombie movies


[16-Mar-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
The problem with that law is that it's too stupid without being stupid enough


[16-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
TBH I think in The Purge there'd be lots of murder sure


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck that if the purge happened i;d leave to canada a month in advanced


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But imagine the economic impact


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of just 24 hours of tax fraud and insider trading


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, 24 normal hours


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_ba dum tsh_


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
badumquish


[16-Mar-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the purge was too heavy on the murder, sure there'd be murder, but it;s more liekly people would be robbing the fuck out of places and shooting up cocaine


[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
.p artist:badumquish,gun


[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that


[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also car stunts


[16-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/us/politics/trump-veto-national-emergency.html

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Trump Issues First Veto After Congress Rejects Border Emergency
The veto will send the legislation back to Congress, which most likely doesn’t have enough votes for an override, meaning the declaration of an emergency at the Mexican border will remain in effect.
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[16-Mar-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cowboy hatted gentlmen int he background...


[16-Mar-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his administration is one big stereo type


[16-Mar-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Let's make a mount'n out of a molehill, boys! Yee-haw!"


[16-Mar-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all they need is a lady in daisy dukes and tied top


[16-Mar-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Mar-19 02:43 AM] ononim#8141
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[16-Mar-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
nice


[16-Mar-19 03:49 AM] LeafSlav9836#9220

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[16-Mar-19 03:49 AM] LeafSlav9836#9220
What's wrong with this image? Tell me your answer.


[16-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[16-Mar-19 04:26 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
What do you guys think that are going to be the implications of the shooting in new Zealand?


[16-Mar-19 04:26 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[16-Mar-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
probably more governments trying to censor the internet


[16-Mar-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
just like how 9/11 caused the US to start doing a bunch of useless control shit


[16-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
where? in NZ probably new guns law in the US a bunch of nothing


[16-Mar-19 04:29 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
That was what i was fearing.....


[16-Mar-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm concerned that this shooting is gonna quickly fade from the public eye in the next few days


[16-Mar-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, the last thing we want to have happen is for them to take his bait, Se7en style


[16-Mar-19 04:30 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I think that the goverments prefer that we don't see the problem than trying to give real a solution


[16-Mar-19 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know it's asking an *awful* lot for them to see through to the real cause, though, given what we've seen so far


[16-Mar-19 04:31 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
And poor pewdipie, he had enough drama on his own...


[16-Mar-19 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
there's not really a simple solution though, the dude was radicalized by memes, places like Facebook and YouTube would have to start vetting content


[16-Mar-19 04:32 AM] Honahue#0656
pewdiepie isn't a victim he's a dick and even if he was "jk" he's said some of the talking points in the dudes manifesto


[16-Mar-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Who said I wanted a simple solution


[16-Mar-19 04:34 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I mean I have seen some spicy memes and not for that i will start a shooting tomorrow.... i think there's a deeper problem that we have to solve, i don't think that cersorship is the answer....


[16-Mar-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really isnt


[16-Mar-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
censorship has basically become the political equivalent of sweeping the dirt under the rug isntead of actually doign soemthing about the issue


[16-Mar-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For sure, better media behavior would be a good start - I don't think it's censorship to *avoid* digging into the personal details of a terrorist's life within the first news cycle


[16-Mar-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
child trafficing becomes an issue? just censor soem artists online who dont abuse children and hope the child abuse goes away itself. Gun violence on the rise? just keep guns off tv and hope the issue goes away by itself


[16-Mar-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, you look at this so-called "manifesto" and it's just a list of kekworthy things the media loves to blame


[16-Mar-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As satires go, this one was in exceptionally poor taste


[16-Mar-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pirating is an issue now? write a vaguely worded bill that;s easily abusable because you can;t be arsed to make a real law


[16-Mar-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
satire *usually* doesn't involve actually murdering people


[16-Mar-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this time the mass murderer used the media agaisnt itself and gave them exactly what they wanteds to hear


[16-Mar-19 04:39 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
The worst part is that all the attention is going to be around censoring memes and other sh*t that doesn't solve a thing....


[16-Mar-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly what the murderer wanted


[16-Mar-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that'd be them taking the bait, yes. But I'm also seeing just...more extreme-right responses from gov't in general


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, what the heck was that one letter from that senator


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Sadly yes, I bet that the media is going to forget all about the victims too


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which letter?


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it was posted earlier, lemme scroll up


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh msot definatley


[16-Mar-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they wills top at nothing to braodcast the names of the killers


[16-Mar-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1rWUPYUwAAiQ5v.jpg:orig

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[16-Mar-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just so they can inspire more for more ratings


[16-Mar-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean...is this real? Why have we reached a point where I have to check that this *isn't* real


[16-Mar-19 04:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't know about New Zealand, but it feels like US media is especially bad at handling politically motivated mass shootings


[16-Mar-19 04:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US media and US authorities, too


[16-Mar-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what?


[16-Mar-19 04:43 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
You have to be fucking joking.....


[16-Mar-19 04:44 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
It's like saying, "the murderer wasn't responsible, obviously the victim wanted to be shot dead....."


[16-Mar-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now, the mosque may have appeared to be the victims today, but the true victims were the murderers who took 43 lives as they feared the muslims"


[16-Mar-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
now I can't be blamed for not keeping up to date on NZ politics because I am on the literal opposite side of the globe, but apparently this guy is such an obvious neo-nazi that he talked about a "final solution" for muslims in his very first speech as a senator


[16-Mar-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*what in the gosh darn heck are nazis doing in middle earth anyway*


[16-Mar-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hunting for man bear pig


[16-Mar-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but in all seriousness it;s likely easier to meet up all secluded like and plan shit out in new zealand than it is in america


[16-Mar-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Suggins1/status/1106623719047192576

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Arthur Chu Shoe Report (@Suggins1)
https://twitter.com/Suggins1/status/1106623719047192576
this tumblr post from five years ago has consistently done a better job of analyzing the current cultural/political environment than 99% of media
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[16-Mar-19 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>13chag


[16-Mar-19 06:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Anning just got egged m8s


[16-Mar-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Had it coming to him


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
who?


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Anning Fraser


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
who?


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Xenophobic parliament member


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[16-Mar-19 06:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Who more or less blamed the shooting on "laxer Muslim immigration"


[16-Mar-19 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
"the muslims wouldn't've gotten shot if they hadn't been in the country" argument


[16-Mar-19 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2135590173197525&id=980698135353407

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Socialist Memes for Proletarian Teens
Fraser Anning gets egged
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[16-Mar-19 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
based and redpilled


[16-Mar-19 07:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
A hero


[16-Mar-19 07:06 AM] Honahue#0656
braver than the troops


[16-Mar-19 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course anning, a grown ass big boi punches the teenager twice and a fashy boi headlocks him and nearly chokes the kid tho


[16-Mar-19 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
inb4 Anning and friend gets zero consequences for assault


[16-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://boingboing.net/2019/03/13/they-were-socialist-invader.html

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Ruben Bolling
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They were... Socialist Invaders from the Future!
Tom the Dancing Bug, IN WHICH scary Socialists from 2019 invade the 1950s to spread their evil brand of radical collectivism.
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[16-Mar-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
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[16-Mar-19 10:32 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Mar-19 10:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
n o o n e    e s c a p e s    t h e     f u t u r e    a l i v e


[16-Mar-19 10:37 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1106657835646156800?s=21

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[16-Mar-19 10:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump: These refugees from American asset stripping is the most dangerous threat to America


[16-Mar-19 10:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsPOgCPEeKs

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Solidarity Forever - Utah Phillips
Written by Ralph Chaplin Album: We Have Fed You All For A Thousand Years
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[16-Mar-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I just discovered there's a talking head emoji


[16-Mar-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
🗣


[16-Mar-19 12:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.imgur.com/If3NEc8.jpg

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fraser anning vs eggboi
https://i.imgur.com/If3NEc8.jpg


[16-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/trump-tweets-there-should-be-no-robert-mueller-russia-probe-report.html

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Trump says 'there should be no Mueller report' a day after House u...
Trump's comments come a day after the House unanimously passed a symbolic resolution calling for public release of the report Mueller gives to the Justice Department.
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[16-Mar-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/what-maybe-mindblown-shocked-face-gif-10009029

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[16-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/8qLcURc

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The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s. It Just Surfaced
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[16-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/zora-neale-hurston-barracoon-slave-clotilda-survivor

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The Last Slave Ship Survivor Gave an Interview in the 1930s. It Ju...
Zora Neale Hurston’s searing book about the final survivor of the transatlantic slave trade, Cudjo Lewis, is being published nearly a century after it was written.
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[16-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/missouri-lawmaker-bill-requiring-ar-15s-not-meant-to-pass/2019/03/15/1e34a6fc-476e-11e9-94ab-d2dda3c0df52_story.html


[16-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
>A Missouri lawmaker who’s introduced measures that would force adults to own handguns and young adults to own AR-15 semi-automatic rifles said he’s trying to make the point that mandates are bad and doesn’t actually want to require gun ownership.


[16-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
the democrats should vote for it


[16-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
get it to pass lmao


[16-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
it adds both the handgun and the AR-15 as tax deductible


[16-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
granted, if it actually passed it would 99% be vetoed, and even if the governor was insane enough to sign it, it would immediately be challenged as unconstitutional


[16-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
since mandating that someone buy a certain product is 100% socialism


[16-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
they like to try and equate universal healthcare to being "forced" to buy healthcare when you don't want it


[16-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
which is retarded because there's literally not a single sane person who wants to be without healthcare


[16-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
the other argument is that it somehow removes the amazing freedom of "choice" of having to choose a vastly overpriced yet inferior product


[16-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
when universal healthcare would actually force private healthcare companies to compete at sane prices


[16-Mar-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this guy is stupid


[16-Mar-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i get his point but it doesnt make sense in this context


[16-Mar-19 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"WE should let poor people die without healthcare if they want to guys!"


[16-Mar-19 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They totally want this!


[16-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
there's a myth that bounces around that the only people who live in homelessness are drug addicts and insane people


[16-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
mainly because homelessness in the mentally impaired surged back when all the insane asylums were closing


[16-Mar-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/comments/b1pysy/australian_senator_hit_by_an_egg_soon_after_his/

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r/JusticeServed - Australian Senator hit by an egg soon after his ...
287 votes and 122 comments so far on Reddit
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[16-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, there's people in the comments treating it like he got knifed in the back


[16-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
and saying that getting an egg to the back of the head is like getting your teeth punched out


[16-Mar-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it probably hurt less than the punch he threw at the egger


[16-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/16/05/11064488-6816145-image-a-29_1552714450856.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
this is how he was restrained too


[16-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
he looks like he's dead


[16-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
because big chad wannabe was choking him out


[16-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/03/violence-is-golden/

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Violence is Golden
Without action, words are just words. Without violence, laws are just words. 
Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer.
http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lincoln.jpg


[16-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
>Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer.


[16-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
finally, someone who gets humans


[16-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
humans publicly love to hate violence, but privately love to see violence used against those they consider their opponents


[16-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plenty that love it publicly too


[16-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
nah, you question them publicly about it and they'll say it isn't "true" violence


[16-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
"George Orwell wrote in his “Notes on Nationalism” that, for the pacifist, the truth that, “Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf,” is obvious but impossible to accept.  Much unreason flows from the inability to accept our passive reliance on violence for protection."


[16-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
"Violence doesn’t come from movies or video games or music. Violence comes from people. It’s about time people woke up from their 1960s haze and started being honest about violence again. People are violent, and that’s OK. You can’t legislate it away or talk your way around it. Based on the available evidence, there’s no reason to believe that world peace will ever be achieved, or that violence can ever be “stopped.”"


[16-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
the world is so much more peaceful than it was even 100 years ago


[16-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
so the author isn't all correct about that


[16-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Crow#5457
granted, 100 years ago was literally ww1


[16-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
the armistice was signed by this point 100 years ago though


[16-Mar-19 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-union-2020/index.html

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Bernie Sanders' staff unionizes in presidential campaign first
Sen. Bernie Sanders' 2020 presidential campaign will be a union shop.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190302135226-03-bernie-sanders-rally-nyc-0302-super-tease.jpg


[16-Mar-19 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
"In a statement on Friday, the campaign said it had recognized its staffers' decision to unionize, making it the first major-party presidential campaign to employ a formally organized workforce."


[16-Mar-19 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
"The staffers will be represented by the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 400, which said that anyone below the rank of deputy director would be eligible to join the bargaining unit. The campaign voluntarily recognized the group, the union said in a statement, after a majority of 44 eligible employees signed union cards. "


[16-Mar-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.cleveland19.com/2019/03/15/trump-supporters-drive-build-wall-float-past-mourners-new-zealand-massacre-cleveland-city-hall/

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Trump supporter drives ‘build the wall’ float past New Zealand...
A vigil organized by Christians, Jews and Muslims at Cleveland City Hall to remember the 49 killed in Christchurch, New Zealand was interrupted Friday by a President Donald Trump supporter driving a “BUILD THE WALL” float.
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[16-Mar-19 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
more victim blaming


[16-Mar-19 03:18 PM] hmsquilava#3978
I thought the Tasman Sea functioned as a wall


[16-Mar-19 03:19 PM] hmsquilava#3978
Against Austrailians


[16-Mar-19 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, here's arnold taking an egg like it wasn't even there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCwXn40KvQ

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Arnold Schwarzenegger Gets Hit By An Egg, Doesn't Even Flinch
"He Owes Me Bacon Now!"
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[16-Mar-19 03:20 PM] Crow#5457
arnold calls being egged free speech


[16-Mar-19 03:20 PM] Crow#5457
australian politician calls it a near-death experience


[16-Mar-19 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that australian politician is a coward and weakling hiding behidn an army of white supremecist body guards


[16-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-16/fraser-anning-egged-in-melbourne-while-speaking-to-media/10908650

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Fraser Anning punches teen after being egged in Melbourne
A 17-year-old boy smashes an egg on Fraser Anning's head as he speaks at a political meeting in Melbourne, prompting the controversial Queensland senator to fight back.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10908820-16x9-700x394.jpg


[16-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
>A fundraising page has already been set up to collect donations to cover the teenager's legal fees and to buy "more eggs".


[16-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[16-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi

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Click here to support Money for EggBoi organised by Egg Boi
Our hero EggBoi takes on Fraser Anning, the senator for Queensland that is now despised around the world for comments made after the shooting at a New Zealand mosque.  Money raised will go to EggBoi for:   - Legal fees - More eggs   To those wondering how the money will get t...
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[16-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
already blew past $4000


[16-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, someone edited the original text to support eggboi https://i.imgur.com/cOma3wz.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did 4chan remove /pol/ from its channel list?


[16-Mar-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[16-Mar-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
politically incorrect is still up and running


[16-Mar-19 03:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's still accessible, but I don't see it in the channel list


[16-Mar-19 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
I see it


[16-Mar-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s listed under politically incorrect on the home page


[16-Mar-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hmm


[16-Mar-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't see it on the top list, though...


[16-Mar-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Mar-19 03:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[16-Mar-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-Mar-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, do blue boards not list non-blue?


[16-Mar-19 03:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What does your top list display


[16-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
on tg


[16-Mar-19 03:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[16-Mar-19 03:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably, anyway


[16-Mar-19 03:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Note how /b/ is also omitted


[16-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc how many boards are there now


[16-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not seeing /pol/ on /v/ either


[16-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There used to be just 3


[16-Mar-19 03:52 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Is /v/ a sfw board?


[16-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
yes, I think so


[16-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
oh, that might be it


[16-Mar-19 03:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think sfw boards just don't display the NSFW boards on the top


[16-Mar-19 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
/pol/ is an NSFW board


[16-Mar-19 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
so it isn't showing on the SFW boards in the top list


[16-Mar-19 03:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also Teaspoon, the fact that 4chan cups exist with like 32 teams/boards should give you a good idea of how many boards there are now


[16-Mar-19 04:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They should just rename every board with the -pol suffix tbh


[16-Mar-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
d-pol


[16-Mar-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
b-pol


[16-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Deleted User#0000
Marukoooo ❤


[16-Mar-19 04:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1106945870220677120?s=21

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[16-Mar-19 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
*He’s a great president.*


[16-Mar-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
/mlpol/

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[16-Mar-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/wmzEDR3.mp4

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Australian senator egged after remarks blaming victims of mass shooting.
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[16-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda) 

What was that?


[16-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
A new type of selfie?


[16-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤔


[16-Mar-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was the egging from another angle


[16-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And who were all these people?


[16-Mar-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-16/fraser-anning-egged-in-melbourne-while-speaking-to-media/10908650

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Fraser Anning punches teen after being egged in Melbourne
A 17-year-old boy smashes an egg on Fraser Anning's head as he speaks at a political meeting in Melbourne, prompting the controversial Queensland senator to fight back.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10908820-16x9-700x394.jpg


[16-Mar-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fraser anning is an internationally despised australian senator who blamed the terroist strike on the mosque in new zealand on muslim immigrants citing them as the msot violent people on earth


[16-Mar-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically said the shooters were the real victims because they were afraid of these muslim immigrant monsters


[16-Mar-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who tackled the kid to the ground are likely his supporters


[16-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
oof


[16-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I thought the egg man was the bad guy


[16-Mar-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope he;s beign hailed as a hero


[16-Mar-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/15/703665710/police-officer-cant-pull-over-driver-for-giving-him-the-finger-court-rules

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Police Officer Can't Pull Over Driver For Giving Him The Finger, C...
A Michigan woman was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech when she made a crude hand gesture, a federal court ruled.
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[16-Mar-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the egg dude has been released from jail


[16-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
@Stoopedhooy, this is what the guy who got egged wrote https://i.imgur.com/IkpWWKw.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
both the majority and opposition leaders want to censure him for that


[16-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
basically saying that it's ok to shoot muslims because they "make people fearful with their presence"


[16-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oof


[16-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Must be their virile hairy faces


[16-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiblush:


[16-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
@Stoopedhooy, here's a version rewritten after the egging https://i.imgur.com/cOma3wz.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
saying it's ok to egg white supremacists because of their hateful and bigoted views


[16-Mar-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i support egg guy


[16-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
there's a gofundme up https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi

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Click here to support Money for EggBoi organised by Egg Boi
Our hero EggBoi takes on Fraser Anning, the senator for Queensland that is now despised around the world for comments made after the shooting at a New Zealand mosque.  Money raised will go to EggBoi for:   - Legal fees - More eggs   To those wondering how the money will get t...
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/767926170_640.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shall make action figures of him


[16-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
holy christ it jumped from $4700 to $6400 in like 2 hours


[16-Mar-19 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah he did what everyone else wanted to do


[16-Mar-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The senator has basically killed his own reputation. whatever credibility got him elected int he first place is fucking gone as shit now


[16-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Macarou#9574
Wowzas, that is a lot of money!


[16-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Macarou 

How did you survive after I left you in the middle of wasteland?


[16-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Macarou#9574
I found some weird knight guys, shouting 'bout some holy hand grenade or what  not, and I followed them 'till I found my way back to Reno!


[16-Mar-19 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Talk about overreactions


[16-Mar-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/first-of-its-kind-law-grants-civil-rights-to-lake-eerie/

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‘First-of-its-Kind’ Law Will Protect Lake Erie From Pollution ...
Thanks to a 61% approval vote from the people of Toledo, Lake Erie now has legal protection against pollution and contamination.
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Chris-Steele-the-Man-Wading-in-Lake-Erie-Ohio-McKinley-Corbley.jpg


[16-Mar-19 08:02 PM] Macarou#9574
That is jolly good news!


[16-Mar-19 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
2014: Corporations are people


[16-Mar-19 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
2019: Lakes are people


[16-Mar-19 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm ok with lake people, though, I hear they give out swords as a basis of government


[16-Mar-19 08:45 PM] Macarou#9574
Not just any sword, magical swords!


[16-Mar-19 08:49 PM] Honahue#0656
broke: Corporations are people
woke: Lakes are people


[16-Mar-19 08:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
thank you for improving my joke, 10/10


[16-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Macarou#9574
You're welcome Wing


[16-Mar-19 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1107001687208878085?s=21

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This is a National Emergency...
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[16-Mar-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/556574027645190144/IMG_20190316_150549.jpg

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[16-Mar-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that video showed nothing


[16-Mar-19 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was so grainy and inverted it might as well have been a troupe of actors playing borader crossers


[16-Mar-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh no, 200 people


[16-Mar-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yikers how will we stand it


[16-Mar-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no a small village


[16-Mar-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
however will we live


[16-Mar-19 09:34 PM] Honahue#0656
it's a black hot IR video but there's no information about it is that even from the US border or is it from some other country


[16-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Honahue#0656
the US isn't the only country with IR cameras and borders that people cross


[16-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
inb4 it turns out it's US people fleeing to Canada


[16-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Macarou#9574
Why would they do that?


[16-Mar-19 10:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1107029377123057664?s=21

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How is the Paris Environmental Accord working out for France? After 18 weeks of rioting by the Yellow Vest Protesters, I guess not so well! In the meantime, the United States has gone to the top of all lists on the Environment.
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[16-Mar-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because canada has better healthcare and stuff


[16-Mar-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shut the fuck up trump we're on the bottom list of everything


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Macarou#9574
Healthcare is good.


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no its not


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the riots have nothing to do with the paris accord...


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what even the fuck


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Macarou#9574
I was talking about the Canadian Healthcare Intexda.


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[16-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it;s amazing


[16-Mar-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather live in canada right now but nope i live in america


[16-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Macarou#9574
I would like to live in Germany one day, to be closer to a special friend of mine, and for all the other benefits.


[16-Mar-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
germany soudns great actually


[16-Mar-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they fought walmart to keep it the fuck out


[16-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Macarou#9574
They fought with Walmart? Why?


[16-Mar-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well for starters walmart is on the top 10 list of employee abuse


[16-Mar-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Who wouldn't fight with walmart


[16-Mar-19 10:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1106969569057538048?s=21

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[16-Mar-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also have draconian rules for their employees such as forced smiles, and no inter personal relations outside of alreayd married couples


[16-Mar-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they run themselves liek a cult of family


[16-Mar-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Walmart is an abusive piece of shit company that uses its monopoly powers to strongarm manufacturers and put competitors out of business, not to mention how they treat employees


[16-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Macarou#9574
Now that is very concerning.


[16-Mar-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i worked for them for a year and a half i;m not going back evne if i have to become homeless


[16-Mar-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only retail chain more corrupt and abusive thaN THEM IS FUCING AMAzon


[16-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Macarou#9574
Amazon? What is wrong with them?


[16-Mar-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Everything that's wrong with walmart and then some


[16-Mar-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take everything wrong with walmart and turn it up to 11


[16-Mar-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are only walmarts rival because thye are everything walmart aspires towards


[16-Mar-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart also started opening up dairy plants around the US so on top of putting local stores out of business, now they;re putting dairy farms out too


[16-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Macarou#9574
Why are they opening diary farms?


[16-Mar-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for control


[16-Mar-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without having to got hrough dairy farms, thye wont have to give any profit away


[16-Mar-19 10:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
cutting out the middleman means increasing profits


[16-Mar-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also means they can raise the prices


[16-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Macarou#9574
Oh dear, this is all worrisome, hopefully they can be stopped.


[16-Mar-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.sulphurdailynews.com/news/guebert-costco-walmart-want-you-in-their-chain/article_5a49a6c9-7f77-5668-bcbb-279403cf7fc5.html

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Guebert: Costco, Walmart want you in their 'chain'
While officials in Washington stare at a federal budget proposal headed nowhere and a federal budget deficit headed to the moon, farm leaders in rural America are closely watching two
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/sulphurdailynews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/88/e88ef575-0170-50b7-8380-50a92d11878b/5c8b97b4a8aed.image.jpg?resize=501%2C630


[16-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Macarou#9574
They really need to be stopped


[16-Mar-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/walmart/comments/4h396z/walmart_cult_culture/


[16-Mar-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart also turned their creator into what is essentially a cult figure head


[16-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Macarou#9574
Really?


[16-Mar-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy has been dead a long time now but they plaster his face around, and tell his story and how he created the "Wonderful walmart family that you are now appart of"


[16-Mar-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they basically treat him as a god like nroth korea treats kim jong un as a god


[16-Mar-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
minus the executions


[16-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Macarou#9574
Oh dear.


[16-Mar-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
It's policy that they do but nobody sane actually believes that shit


[16-Mar-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[16-Mar-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s part of why walmart is a high stress zone


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Management is hired externally to basically be prison guards


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
associates are barely given a livable income (even after the massive raise they all got)


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
With absurd schedules


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Management just does what corporate says


[16-Mar-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my schedule felt like they were jsut throwing darts at a board


[16-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is where the cult stuff comes from


[16-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
also where the heating/cooling control comes from


[16-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, they choose a temperature for every Walmart to be, based on conditions in Arkansas


[16-Mar-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[16-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
If your climate isn't the same as Arkansas, enjoy the heater going on in summer


[16-Mar-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck


[16-Mar-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is news to me


[16-Mar-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also why arkansas?


[16-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's where Walmart is headquartered.


[16-Mar-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, cold snap hits Arkansas in June


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess i never noticed this when i worked there due to working outside as a cart pusher


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
To deal with it, they raise desired Walmart temperature from 72 to 77


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is fine for females, actually


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
not males


[16-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then walmarts in areas where it's 100 F outside now try to hit 77 F


[16-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning people come in dehydrated and hot and stay like that thruout their shopping experience


[16-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that they buy the water placed near the chekkouts


[16-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Walmart makes more money.


[16-Mar-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as a cart pusher we got free water but we also had to carry it tot he front of the store isntead of thme just puttign it there themselves for us


[16-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cashiers hav to buy their own water lol


[16-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile it's free in the breakroom


[16-Mar-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it;s super bullshit


[16-Mar-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the breakroom is covered in propaganda as well so it feels liek abig brother zone


[16-Mar-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is essentially is


[16-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 10 foot rule is horrible


[16-Mar-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once i was doen with work for the day i would rush over to the much friendlier less cultish barnes and noble


[16-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody in their right mind greets every single person they come within 10 feet of when aisles are like 5 feet wide at most


[16-Mar-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the mother fucking christmas music


[16-Mar-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they cant just play christmas carols liek a normal store, they have to play the justin beiber and mariah cary covers


[16-Mar-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or whoever the new hits of christmas are


[16-Mar-19 11:07 PM] illumnious#7938
This have nothing to do with politics but okay https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-jackson-indianapolis-childrens-museum-leaving-neverland-809212/

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Daniel Kreps
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michael-jackson-indianapolis-childrens-museum-leaving-neverland-809212/
Michael Jackson Items Removed From Indianapolis Children’s Museu...
“When you learn new stories or you look at something historical in a different way, then sometimes we re-evaluate whether that’s appropriate to be (on display)”
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/GettyImages-2074340.jpg


[16-Mar-19 11:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean it's commentary on the culture war


[16-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If MJ was white I'm pretty sure they'd wait longer to do this.


[16-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot longer.


[16-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, did they ever do anything with those BBC hosts who we learned were pedos/rapists after their deaths? Like, did they pull stuff out of museums?


[16-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it was just one, Jimmy Saville


[16-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZH2rmk11c

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GetMeKnownNOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZH2rmk11c
Jimmy Savile molests girl live on Top Of The Pops 1976
what a fucking creep :O Like the video?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CEZH2rmk11c/hqdefault.jpg


[16-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy liked 'em anywhere between 8 and 50


[16-Mar-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
On climate control in big box retail: same at Home Depot. How we're supposed to heat or cool our stores is determined by what's going on in the headquarters in Georgia. They also shut down AC at night so in summer we're cooking. Can't wait to see if I get two months out of there this summer.


[17-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/03/violence-is-golden/

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http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2011/03/violence-is-golden/
Violence is Golden
Without action, words are just words. Without violence, laws are just words. 
Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer.
http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lincoln.jpg


[17-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
humans publicly love to hate violence, but privately love to see violence used against those they consider their opponents


[17-Mar-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
"George Orwell wrote in his “Notes on Nationalism” that, for the pacifist, the truth that, “Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf,” is obvious but impossible to accept.  Much unreason flows from the inability to accept our passive reliance on violence for protection."


[17-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are there any species more violent towards their own members than humans?


[17-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Grasshopper females kill their mates.


[17-Mar-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, chimps eat prisoners of war...


[17-Mar-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that probably doesnt sound liek much int he grand scheme of human violence


[17-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
Our complex society relies on proxy violence to the extent that many average people in the private sector can wander through life without really having to understand or think deeply about violence, because we are removed from it. We can afford to perceive it as a distant, abstract problem to be solved through high-minded strategy and social programming. When violence comes knocking, we simply make a call, and the police come to “stop” the violence.

Few civilians really take the time to think that what we are essentially doing is paying an armed band protection money to come and do orderly violence on our behalf. When those who would do violence to us are taken peacefully, most of us don’t really make the connection, we don’t even assert to ourselves that the reason a perpetrator allows himself to be arrested is because of the gun the officer’s hip or the implicit understanding that he will eventually be hunted down by more officers who have the authority to kill him if his is deemed a threat. That is, if he is deemed a threat to order.


[17-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like kraus would enjoy this essay


[17-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, "Violence doesn’t come from movies or video games or music. Violence comes from people. It’s about time people woke up from their 1960s haze and started being honest about violence again. People are violent, and that’s OK. You can’t legislate it away or talk your way around it. Based on the available evidence, there’s no reason to believe that world peace will ever be achieved, or that violence can ever be “stopped.”"


[17-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
this is literally the only part of that essay that is easily falsified


[17-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
since violence has been vastly decreasing over the past 200 years


[17-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing stopping violence is that it's easier to get resources by not being violent


[17-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
we are still violent, but we no longer need to shoot each other to get water and oil


[17-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
it obviously can never be stopped completely, but it can be reduced a shitload by making people not have to question whether they'll eat the next day or not


[17-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then in the Middle East it often *is* easier to shoot people


[17-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi

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https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi
Click here to support Money for EggBoi organised by Egg Boi
Our hero EggBoi takes on Fraser Anning, the senator for Queensland that is now despised around the world for comments made after the shooting at a New Zealand mosque.  Money raised will go to EggBoi for:   - Legal fees - More eggs   To those wondering how the money will get t...
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/767926170_640.jpg


[17-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
so in about 8 hours, the gofundme jumped from $6,400 to $17,000

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[17-Mar-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[17-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
new gofundme trend: egging shitty right-wing politicians for money


[17-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
imagine trump getting egged


[17-Mar-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
he'd be the biggest crybaby on twitter for months


[17-Mar-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
even bigger than he is now


[17-Mar-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Secret Service would wring you dry first


[17-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah if this were the US the kid would be dead.


[17-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCwXn40KvQ

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Conservatively Right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCwXn40KvQ
Arnold Schwarzenegger Gets Hit By An Egg, Doesn't Even Flinch
"He Owes Me Bacon Now!"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PoCwXn40KvQ/hqdefault.jpg

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💪 (5) 🚫 (5) 🥚 (5) 

[17-Mar-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
arnold calls being egged "free speech"


[17-Mar-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
whiny australian nazis call it a near-death experience


[17-Mar-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
❄ 🍑


[17-Mar-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Freeze peach


[17-Mar-19 12:52 AM] Honahue#0656
the twitter storm Trump would have if he got egged would be the greatest part, He'd probably talk about PTSD how his life was in danger and how antifa are the real terrorists


[17-Mar-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The egg farmers are hostile immigrants! Build the wall!


[17-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come on


[17-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/XNyUALnj8V0

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Frank Reynolds (Best of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia)
https://youtu.be/XNyUALnj8V0
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - Can I offer you an egg in this...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XNyUALnj8V0/hqdefault.jpg


[17-Mar-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It _was_ a very trying time.


[17-Mar-19 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Australia right now


[17-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.vg247.com/2019/03/14/judgement-pierre-taki-cocaine/

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Kirk McKeand
https://www.vg247.com/2019/03/14/judgement-pierre-taki-cocaine/
Sega pulls Judgment from sale and deletes tweets about the game af...
Actor Pierre Taki has been arrested in Japan for alleged cocaine use. Police officers searched the actor’s car following a tip off.
https://assets.vg247.com/current/2019/03/taki-project-judge.jpg


[17-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If every US game had to be canned because of cocaine use behind the scenes how many AAA ones would come to market I wonder.


[17-Mar-19 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not many UK ones, at least


[17-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus like


[17-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like being taken down by metoo


[17-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And all he did was do drugs


[17-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's male tho


[17-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Olaf just wanted some snow


[17-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(He's the Japanese voice of Olaf)


[17-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Western gender stuff doesn't matter here


[17-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you do anything wrong while male you're automatically a misogynist shitlord and probably raped someone


[17-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan just really hates drugs


[17-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot


[17-Mar-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Spiritual successor to Yakuza where the guy is playing a Yakuza


[17-Mar-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Parking ticket? Evidence of male privilege


[17-Mar-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>His VA does drugs


[17-Mar-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surprisedpikachu.jpg


[17-Mar-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is this even an issue


[17-Mar-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan.


[17-Mar-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And honestly, Disney probably


[17-Mar-19 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Yakuza games were funded by yakuza


[17-Mar-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Josh Gad got caught with cocaine he'd probably get dropped as Olaf


[17-Mar-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or not maybe


[17-Mar-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His English voice is too iconic to replace as much as I hate the character


[17-Mar-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also what Japanese parents name their son Pierre


[17-Mar-19 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What American parent names their son Chet


[17-Mar-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Touché


[17-Mar-19 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
Pretty sure mainstream Japanese media doesn't have enough femenist curents and they just using the framework for dealing with actor who comitted "unhonourble" act :V


[17-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/jeb-bush-trump-2020-1223047
How soon do you think it'll be before Jeb 2020 becomes a thing

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Jeb Bush says a Republican should run against Trump in 2020
'I think someone should run just because Republicans ought to be given a choice,' Jeb Bush said.
https://static.politico.com/34/ab/48dc2b234b5b86d7d536a4691559/190315-jeb-ap-773.jpg


[17-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's already another republican looking into running against trump


[17-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
some ex-governor


[17-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/15/william-weld-challenge-donald-trump-gop-nomination-2020/2881686002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/15/william-weld-challenge-donald-trump-gop-nomination-2020/2881686002/
Ex-Massachusetts Gov. William Weld to challenge Trump for Republic...
William Weld, a former Massachusetts governor who ran for vice president on the Libertarian Party ticket in 2016, became the first Republican to take a serious step toward challenging President Donald Trump in 2020.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/ad41a1765f35d23feea6c4a1fbbbf34d2b4352ea/c=559-345-3387-1943/local/-/media/2016/11/02/USATODAY/USATODAY/636136617751614799-AFP-AFP-G17FF.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[17-Mar-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of shocked there arent like 20 running again liek last time


[17-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Neato


[17-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
why would there be? it's not very often that anyone challenges the incumbent


[17-Mar-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
valid point i guess most of it last election was because obama couldnt run again


[17-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.sulphurdailynews.com/news/guebert-costco-walmart-want-you-in-their-chain/article_5a49a6c9-7f77-5668-bcbb-279403cf7fc5.html

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http://www.sulphurdailynews.com/news/guebert-costco-walmart-want-you-in-their-chain/article_5a49a6c9-7f77-5668-bcbb-279403cf7fc5.html
Guebert: Costco, Walmart want you in their 'chain'
While officials in Washington stare at a federal budget proposal headed nowhere and a federal budget deficit headed to the moon, farm leaders in rural America are closely watching two
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/sulphurdailynews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/88/e88ef575-0170-50b7-8380-50a92d11878b/5c8b97b4a8aed.image.jpg?resize=501%2C630


[17-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
btw, costco's consistently been rated the best place to work in retail


[17-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
they're like walmart's opposite in terms of employee satisfaction


[17-Mar-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i lived near one


[17-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Macarou#9574
I've never seen one where I live


[17-Mar-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
hue, it's Jeb!


[17-Mar-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Please clap


[17-Mar-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/jeb-bush-please-clap-mocking-lol-clapping-gif-7921509

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[17-Mar-19 02:27 AM] Macarou#9574
K


[17-Mar-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
I'm clapping on the inside


[17-Mar-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know he stood zero chance but i cant help but wonder what if he had won


[17-Mar-19 02:33 AM] Litrojia#0612
four years of clapping


[17-Mar-19 02:34 AM] Macarou#9574
Four beautiful years of the happiest claps


[17-Mar-19 02:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Basically the same as Trump but fewer national embarrassments


[17-Mar-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/eva-evangelion-congratulations-anime-nge-gif-5379454

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[17-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact: Costco is one of the biggest pizza chains by volume


[17-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, tweet is gone https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1106516716237045761


[17-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The membership is worth it just for the bi/trimonthly toilet paper/emergency bottled water run


[17-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And hey if you get a cheap 4k TV who cares


[17-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also pretty sure they have like, 2L bottles of bourbon


[17-Mar-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how much is membership?


[17-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
$100 a year


[17-Mar-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[17-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Macarou#9574
Eh, okay price


[17-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
less than $10 a month


[17-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah shampoo is the other good deal there


[17-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
about $8.33 a month I think?


[17-Mar-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would i be able to set that up on a monthly payment plan?


[17-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
oh wow, I was spot on lol


[17-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
yay mental math


[17-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
12 goes into 100 8 times, remainder 4/12 = 0.33


[17-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another Fun Fact: the physical edition of Mario and Rabbids Kingdom Battles definitive edition is a Costco exclusive in North America.


[17-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1107085132991737856

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No satisfaction now, just anger. No one listened.
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[17-Mar-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[17-Mar-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[17-Mar-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god he made it worse

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[17-Mar-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh nvm it;s fake


[17-Mar-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s gettign real hard to tell


[17-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think anyone should be surprised a chan shitposter eventually went out and did what they keep saying they're going to do


[17-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Macarou#9574
Ah, that is sure an odd post.


[17-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's thousands of them and it's just probability that several of them are beyond redemption, have nothing to lose, and access to firearms or other weapons


[17-Mar-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the new zealand terrorist also apparently did a facebook live broadcast of his plans or soem such?


[17-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Why?


[17-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Posted his "manifesto" on 8chan and a link to facebook which he used to stream his headcam during the attack


[17-Mar-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely to cause a reaction


[17-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's a chan shitposter


[17-Mar-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which was probably the wentire point of this shit


[17-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Macarou#9574
That is sure a dumb reason to do something.


[17-Mar-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also wanted to stir more division amongst people clearly


[17-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
4chan, 8chan, and a number of other sites are full of people that only have hate in them, that only enjoy being angry, that enjoy the suffering of others


[17-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the more cowardly of them pretend it's just memes or jokes or whatever


[17-Mar-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people will now blame pewdiepie for this, media is likely going to turn on either pewds or 8/4chan, and memes as well


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is exactly what the killer wanted


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They thrive in a place where a fair portion of the users /are/ just joking around to let off steam or whatever


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He sounds drunk


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Macarou#9574
Now that is just a damn shame.


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he is a teetoaler.


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a fake tweet, Its


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thank God


[17-Mar-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i thought it was real but it;s fake


[17-Mar-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s gettign real hard to tell real trump tweets from fake ones now


[17-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Macarou#9574
Hm, odd.


[17-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump is the first teetoaler president since Hayes


[17-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact


[17-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Almost every one has either drank or brewed beer at the White House as a show of American spirit


[17-Mar-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
teetoaler?


[17-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hayes' wife was nicknamed "Lemonade Lucy" as she didn't allow alcohol to be served at White House dinners.


[17-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Total abstinence from alcohol. Misnamed tbh


[17-Mar-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[17-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actual teetoalism would be responsible alcohol use.


[17-Mar-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-justice-china-espionage/ex-u-s-intelligence-officer-pleads-guilty-to-attempted-espionage-for-china-idUSKCN1QW2TW

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Ex-U.S. intelligence officer pleads guilty to attempted espionage...
A former U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency officer pleaded guilty to attempted es...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190315&t=2&i=1366788832&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF2E27W


[17-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Macarou#9574
Wow mate, good job Mr.Ron Hansen.


[17-Mar-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-icc/u-s-imposes-visa-bans-on-international-criminal-court-investigators-pompeo-idUSKCN1QW1ZH

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U.S. imposes visa bans on International Criminal Court...
The United States will withdraw or deny visas to any International Criminal Cour...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190315&t=2&i=1366766460&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF2E1EF


[17-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If any country in Africa or south America did this the GOP and Trump would be calling them out


[17-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Macarou#9574
This just sounds silly of the US to do


[17-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[17-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US hold the highest slave population of any country on earth


[17-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's not too surprising


[17-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm glad we've dropped the pretence of moral superiority


[17-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Macarou#9574
I am extremely curious as to this slave population you mentioned.


[17-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Private prisons


[17-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Macarou#9574
Ah.


[17-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Honahue#0656
Prisoners are exempt from the 13th amendment


[17-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Private prison lobby pays politicians (and judges and district attorneys) to keep the prison population high


[17-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Macarou#9574
Damn, that is disappointing.


[17-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the biggest forces against weed legalization is the private prison lobby


[17-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because nabbing kids on drug charges makes them good money


[17-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The other force is of course pharma companies, because it'd bite into their legal opiod market


[17-Mar-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prisoners may be exempt from the 13th ammendment but the methods of obtaining said prisoners are likely not at all legal


[17-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But hey, since bribing politicians is legal, they have all the right to


[17-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Mein Gott, this is just disappointing. Hopefully, somehow, these problems can be solved.


[17-Mar-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope so but likely not within my life time


[17-Mar-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my life time i'm expectign total societal collapse isntead of long term solutions


[17-Mar-19 03:49 AM] Macarou#9574
Why are you expecting the worst?


[17-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
because every sign is pointing towards the worst coming


[17-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
whether it's in the next year or next 10 years


[17-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
though 10 years is unlikely as well


[17-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
it'll most likely be about 2050 when everything's gone to hell in a handbasket


[17-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
automation is accelerating


[17-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
both india and china will either eject the capitalists or force them to treat workers fairly, so there'll probably be a retreat of industry back to the developed countries after they've been worn down enough by bribery


[17-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
specifically the US


[17-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Macarou#9574
Why is the increase of automation a bad sign? This does sound worrying.


[17-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
there's a cycle of new markets, established markets, and dying markets in capitalism


[17-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
usually, new markets emerge as old markets die


[17-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
but both new and established markets are being automated


[17-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
so no new markets are opening to take workers from the old markets


[17-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
and people in established markets are being laid off in favor of automated replacementse


[17-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Macarou#9574
So eventually you are saying there will be almost no work, for anyone.


[17-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
on top of the people leaving naturally dying markets and the layoffs from established markets and no emerging job markets to enter, there's a build-up of unemployment


[17-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[17-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
technically, unemployment is the lowest it's ever been right now, but job market participation is also at historic lows


[17-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Also think of old timers getting pushed out it doesn't do a 55 yo much good looking for a job with entry level coding skills


[17-Mar-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and with employee wages stagnating, less people feel inclined to work as walmart moves in and eats mroe business


[17-Mar-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
so there's only ~2.3% unemployment officially, but only like 63% of working age people in the US are actually looking for or have a job


[17-Mar-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hvac will likely never be automated but i worry more about the prices goign so high it becoems unaffordable


[17-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Macarou#9574
So there are going to be almost no jobs, and almost no one will have any will to work, due to poor work conditions, yes?


[17-Mar-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Sure but HVAC will suffer if people can't afford homes and if business owners don't have people to sell to they won't be able to afford HVAC maintenance


[17-Mar-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thats exactly the problem


[17-Mar-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure hvac will be in demand but will there be anyone to actually demand it left?


[17-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Bit that's the contradiction of capitalism it doesn't want labor it wants profits


[17-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
So even with work to do it's only done if it's profitable


[17-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Macarou#9574
This sounds self defeating


[17-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Macarou#9574
So, how could this be fixed, and when?


[17-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Remove the profit motive


[17-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Macarou#9574
And how will that be done? and what would replace the profit motive?


[17-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Most theories revolve around removing heirarchies


[17-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
fix it by making profit margins not be the end-all and be-all of what is considered a successful company


[17-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Worker co-ops


[17-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
since companies aren't considered successful if they're making a profit, only if that profit is growing


[17-Mar-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Return to the people who labor the extent of their surplus value and control over their hours worked.


[17-Mar-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's as simple as that.


[17-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
so if a company makes $100k a month, they're considered dead in the water if they don't make at least $102k the next month (2% growth rate)


[17-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
even though they're STILL MAKING money


[17-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't revenue margins, this is profit margins


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
profit is after all other costs


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Macarou#9574
That does not really make sense, considering a company a failure for not making more money, even though they already make 100k.


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's what they do


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's the point lol


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't make any fucking sense


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Investors expect growth.


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even if a company grows, if it doesn't grow by the margins expected and promised it's a failure.


[17-Mar-19 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And to compensate they cut costs elsewhere.


[17-Mar-19 04:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Whether in reducing quality over all to make a product less expensive to sell at the same price for higher margins, or they do this by cutting employees and continue to expect the same output.


[17-Mar-19 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if there are more than one company in the same field, if you don't make as much as or more than the top competitor you're not making the same amount of profit and lost money for investors.


[17-Mar-19 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
So you better start cutting away or recover that revenue to bring back that value.


[17-Mar-19 04:11 AM] Macarou#9574
This all sounds nonsensical and self defeating, how do they ever expect to survive and stay afloat?


[17-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
in their ideal world, they don't


[17-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
in the ideal neoliberal utopia, all of the US would be like silicon valley


[17-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
where people make and lose hundreds of millions of dollars in the blink of an eye constantly


[17-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
and nobody gives a shit because there's billions more where that came from


[17-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
granted, silicon valley's been struggling to maintain that recently


[17-Mar-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Macarou Boom and bust cycles to clear the chaff is the argument. If you can't make it: oh well, good bye. If you survive then market space is left behind for the competitors to pick up what was left over and increase their market share.


[17-Mar-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
The nature of capitalism is gradual wealth accumulation over time.


[17-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Personally I don't think silicon valley has had an original thought in years, it's all variations on social media currently


[17-Mar-19 04:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think they get all of their new toys from government research.


[17-Mar-19 04:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of the metrics gathering software being used is NSA and CIA tech.


[17-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
there's a start-up building 3D printed houses


[17-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/after-success-of-3d-printed-home-in-us-50-more-homes-being-built/

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[17-Mar-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
>The initiative is being managed by Silicon Valley-based nonprofit New Story in collaboration with Icon, the tech company that designed the specialized 3D-printer. Once construction on their “first-of-its-kind” neighborhood is completed, it will be used to house families who make less than $200 per month.


[17-Mar-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
>“Vulcan II is the first printer of its kind in that it has the capability of printing homes in which people actually want to live. It can be operated by anyone with basic training thanks to the improvements in automation, mechatronics and a suite of specialized software.”


[17-Mar-19 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Problem is real estate is pretty much 100% speculation based


[17-Mar-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
The problem with the housing crisis is less to do with we have too few houses. We actually have more than enough pre-existing structures.


[17-Mar-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
silicon valley really does have its perks, but you really really don't want it to be any sort of widespread standard


[17-Mar-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But they're all owned by speculators.


[17-Mar-19 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
If there's no law to protect the low income 3d houses they'll be bought up


[17-Mar-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
you want it around, but you never want it in control


[17-Mar-19 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Most of the tech silicon valley is famous for was bought with government research dollars


[17-Mar-19 04:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though you also can't just walk in and take over these  buildings because a lot of investment capital is tied up in housing and real-estate and suddenly negating the cash value of these properties would crash the economy.


[17-Mar-19 04:19 AM] Macarou#9574
Intriguing.


[17-Mar-19 04:21 AM] Honahue#0656
For John doe home buyer the house is what they want bit at a certain level the house is incidental to a property purchase often replaced


[17-Mar-19 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Unfortunately for John Doe he's got to compete with those other guys too which is what pushes house prices up


[17-Mar-19 04:24 AM] Macarou#9574
I see, it sounds like a major challenge trying to find a decent home for a nice price.


[17-Mar-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wait for the next crash and maybe when most of the people who own these homes as investment properties go bankrupt and start selling them off to recover a portion of their investment you can pick one up cheap. The issue of course is simply keeping whatever job you have at an income level that'll allow you to get the house.


[17-Mar-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I don't know how recession proof all jobs are either outside of medical work.


[17-Mar-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another major issue with the self defeating thing is, corporations right now are playing a game of last one standing. I don;t think they give a fuck if the whole of america falls liek rome, as long as thye walk away with everything


[17-Mar-19 04:29 AM] Macarou#9574
Why do they play this game Intexda?


[17-Mar-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greed mostly


[17-Mar-19 04:30 AM] Macarou#9574
Worrisome.


[17-Mar-19 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because that's what it promotes.


[17-Mar-19 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Until someone grows the balls to break some shit up.


[17-Mar-19 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then they can just form an oligopoly and be done with that.


[17-Mar-19 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've already sort of started this process with news and cable industries


[17-Mar-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney is working through this for the entertainment industry


[17-Mar-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
When there are few firms in the market, they may collude to set a price or output level for the market in order to maximize industry profits. ... However, collusive oligopoly is inherently unstable, because the most efficient firms will be tempted to break ranks by cutting prices in order to increase market share. -google statement


[17-Mar-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s only a matter of time before hershey and nestle try to cannibalize eachother


[17-Mar-19 04:35 AM] Macarou#9574
This all sounds quite horrifying


[17-Mar-19 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's happened before, is happening, and probably will keep going.


[17-Mar-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh damn


[17-Mar-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thi is the exact shitthat lead to the communist revolution before world war 2 but on a much larger more dangerous scale


[17-Mar-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even that didnt entirely end it for russia


[17-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh no, that would be a horrible fate for The United States, following Russia's communist shift.


[17-Mar-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh we wouldnt go communist, conservatives woudl see to that


[17-Mar-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america would likely fall like ancient rome did instead


[17-Mar-19 04:40 AM] Macarou#9574
Shattering into multiple countries, yes?


[17-Mar-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a blaze of horror and war


[17-Mar-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that


[17-Mar-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a possibility that desperate politicians would try to level our own nukes agaisnt us


[17-Mar-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
should a rebellion arise


[17-Mar-19 04:42 AM] Macarou#9574
Woah!


[17-Mar-19 04:42 AM] Macarou#9574
That is certainly a dreadful thought.


[17-Mar-19 04:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
housing really needs government enforced, quantifiable static value that adjusts for inflation.


[17-Mar-19 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
the speculative market is awful for all of us


[17-Mar-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speculative marketing is a scummy fucked up program in any amrket it touches


[17-Mar-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both gas and housing needs government enforced, quantifiable inflation adjusted static value


[17-Mar-19 04:58 AM] Macarou#9574
Intriguing.


[17-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Gas wouldn't be a problem if American cities had decent public transportation


[17-Mar-19 05:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Well maybe a little problem still but much less of one


[17-Mar-19 05:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Autonomous cars won't solve the problem that cars are an inefficient use of space


[17-Mar-19 05:06 AM] Honahue#0656
An autonomous bus or rail, especially a rail with it's own right of way now that would be a boon to a city


[17-Mar-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
I'd like to see japan's new train be used in the US


[17-Mar-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
its current top speed is like 371 mph, but it has a theoretical max of like 575 mph


[17-Mar-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
and it's constantly getting better as they build the infrastructure to run it


[17-Mar-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd like to see us start with *bus systems that have enough funding to function*


[17-Mar-19 05:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Isnt most US ppl lives in rural areas near big cities?


[17-Mar-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you're not from the US I think you might have to reconsider your concept of "near" big cities


[17-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
yes, big one is more buses


[17-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
that's #1 priority


[17-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
the idea of trains is less airports, so less air travel


[17-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
which is the actual goal of the new green deal


[17-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
the stated goal of "no commercial intracontinential airlines" is unrealistic


[17-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
like, economy-crashing unrealistic


[17-Mar-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, well, when the same politicians that refuse to fund public transit spend twice what was asked to investigate the feasibility of hyperloop, I think there are far more realistic "problems" that can be solved


[17-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
it could theoretically work if we had the ability to just magic infrastructure into place at the absolute minimum cost


[17-Mar-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing against hyperloop, just an awful lot against dumb politicians


[17-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
but the amount of infrastructure needed to completely replace commercial intracontinential air travel is ludicrous, even with decades of building


[17-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
and that's disregarding the already fraying vital infrastructure


[17-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hilariously, one of the few places I see hyperloop being feasible is *at airports*


[17-Mar-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
hyperloop is dead in the water due to that aforementioned japanese super-train now anyway


[17-Mar-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
it does what the hyperloop is supposed to do, but much more efficiently


[17-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but yeah I'd like to see us fix all the crumbling bridges first


[17-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
and the tech already exists, it just needs the infrastructure in place to start running it


[17-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
there's going to be a demo at the 2020 olympics in japan


[17-Mar-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
going at the current top speed of 371 mph (that's what it's currently set at, they apparently aren't planning any more speed increases until after they've gone commercial)


[17-Mar-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony crumbling bridges hits close to home


[17-Mar-19 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh I'm well aware


[17-Mar-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget the *top* station of the incline that flooded. And then there was that landslide that wrecked the light rail and spilled listerine everywhere...this has not been a good year for Pittsburgh's transit system


[17-Mar-19 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I know naught about Port Authority funding though


[17-Mar-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd like to introduce you to Sam Smith, PA state senator from Punxatawney, PA. That man has an avocado pit under his dentures about Port Authority funding and has been one of the most outspoken nay-sayers


[17-Mar-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
why? Because um


[17-Mar-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*Public transit is a waste of money, just look at how badly they're doing* Never mind that PAT has to request funding every year just to operate and are never given what they need, due to a state law that dates back to when car companies tried to ruin the streetcar industry


[17-Mar-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Ah yes one of those ~~fucking cunts~~ ~~assholes~~ ~~dipshits~~ ~~cocksuckers~~ ~~morons~~ GOP members!


[17-Mar-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberals


[17-Mar-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives and neoliberals both hate funding infrastructure


[17-Mar-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism is the foundation of capitalism, neoliberalism is insane liberalism, both the democratic and republican parties are rooted in liberalism


[17-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's why california's having infrastructure problems as well, just not nearly to the extent of the republican run areas


[17-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
but at least democrats can be convinced eventually to spend more than the minimum required money to maintain things in order to expand what's currently there and upgrade the old stuff


[17-Mar-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
it just takes a lot longer than is logical because of all the third way pseudo-centrism shit


[17-Mar-19 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
I've heard there used to be rural rail back when, people had farms and trains before they had cars I don't think even as spread out as rural areas are that it is unreasonable and uneconomic to have some kinda rail system in place


[17-Mar-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
buses would be easier to implement quickly though


[17-Mar-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
but I think one of the advantages of rail is just how much abuse the cars and rails can take compared to streets and tires


[17-Mar-19 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that one of the main reasons trains became so huge in the US is that it's where the ultra-wealthy were, then. It's why traditional Monopoly has train lines


[17-Mar-19 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really don't think they ran railroads straight through farmland for the farmers' benefit


[17-Mar-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but that's all the more reason to run rail as a municipality


[17-Mar-19 06:43 AM] Honahue#0656
at least the local system, buses too either way it would be good if we could make cities more walkable and increase rural people's access to transportation without needing a vehicle


[17-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That happened a lot in the 19th century for public transport


[17-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the 20th in America


[17-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people find somewhere good to live and build a community


[17-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so guess where the transportation infrastructure or factories get built?


[17-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: not anywhere near where rich people liv


[17-Mar-19 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*wrong side of the tracks intensifies*


[17-Mar-19 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
coulda fooled me given the only public transport my town has are disability buses and school busses


[17-Mar-19 07:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes, venezuelan money is so worthless it literally litters the streets now

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[17-Mar-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, a bunch of protesters apparently attacked the bank in caracas and just dumped the paper money all over the streets


[17-Mar-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/cjndk8o

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A bank was looted in Venezuela, and then the people burned the money to show it was worthless.
https://i.imgur.com/lirey5Zh.jpg


[17-Mar-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, they burned it too


[17-Mar-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Incredible symbolism


[17-Mar-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the people don't care about the money


[17-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Honahue#0656
sorta, historically factories where build right on the docks cause before trains you had to move things by boats an who wants to shelp some heavy ass cargo further than they need to


[17-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
"Bolivar of broken dreams"


[17-Mar-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buses were designed to kill more efficient trains for public transportation.


[17-Mar-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Complete with buying up the trains and killing them directly.


[17-Mar-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause buses can extort you for money better.


[17-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
buses can go anywhere where regular road is


[17-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
trains needed rails


[17-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
therefore trains sucks


[17-Mar-19 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
buses need roads therefore buses also suck


[17-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rails are cheap and trains are ridiculously efficient.


[17-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, buses are put on predefined routes that are rarely changed over decades anyways.


[17-Mar-19 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Rails aren't cheap in cities


[17-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but neither is the gas for buses that stop regularly


[17-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
buses usually runs on diesel


[17-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cities make everything more expensive cause of everything else being in the way.


[17-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Honahue#0656
especially with DPF filters


[17-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Honahue#0656
that was redundant


[17-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Honahue#0656
but anyway a DPF uses the heat of the exhaust to cook off the diesel particulites


[17-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
there's some electric buses released last year that're around my area


[17-Mar-19 07:15 AM] Honahue#0656
but in a city the buses idle a lot and the ehaust doesn't get hot enough to do that


[17-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
so they have to run in active mode


[17-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
I think most of the non-electric buses are natural gas


[17-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
which means injecting diesel straight into the DPF to raise the temps


[17-Mar-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
but that diesel then isn't making the bus go so mpg drops


[17-Mar-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
LP gas doesn't make very much power per stroke, not nearly as much as diesel


[17-Mar-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
burns a hell of a lot cleaner though


[17-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
most are still diesel a LP has it's own set of problems for storage


[17-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the electric buses use inductive charging


[17-Mar-19 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
so they can run continuously on the route?


[17-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Honahue#0656
buses and garbage trucks would benefit a lot from regenerative braking cause that's pretty much all they do


[17-Mar-19 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
or am I missing something


[17-Mar-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.electrive.com/2018/04/19/inductive-200-kw-charging-system-for-buses-ready/

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Inductive 200 kW charging system for buses ready - electrive.com
The inductive charging system specialist Momentum Dynamics from the USA has installed their first wireless charging system for electric buses with a charging capacity of a whooping 200 kW. It will be used for the Link Transit company in Wenatchee, Washington. The inductive ch...
https://www.electrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/momentum-dynamics-usa-induktives-laden-inductive-charging-elektrobus-electric-bus-trans-link-washington.png


[17-Mar-19 07:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Where does the heat go ...


[17-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
I think the idea isn't to completely charge it, but start with a full battery every day and have just enough charging for the bus to make it through its entire route without having to plug in


[17-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Honahue#0656
either big ass heat sinks into the ground or a radiator on the top of the bus


[17-Mar-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
and then add on a safety factor, of course


[17-Mar-19 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It looks like it's only supposed to be on the system for 5 minutes at a time anyway


[17-Mar-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, they aren't supposed to sit for extended periods


[17-Mar-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/WUae6

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Ilhan Omar on Twitter: "It's all about the Benjamins baby 🎶… "
archived 11 Feb 2019 18:11:09 UTC
https://archive.fo/WUae6/1149589ce9c661d2ab31e2d852e2dbbe5a7e9f86.jpg


[17-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
I still can't fucking understand how this can be interpreted as an attack on jews


[17-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
she's responding to someone saying "GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy threatens punishment for @IlhanMN and RashidaTlaib over their criticisms of Israel. It's stunning how much time US political leaders spend defending a foreign nation even if it means attacking free speech rights of Americans."


[17-Mar-19 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
cause da joos are bankers and money lenders


[17-Mar-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
there is incredible amounts of financial incentive for the US to support israel


[17-Mar-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
just from jobs/aid/etc


[17-Mar-19 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
mostly they want to demonize her cause she's Muslim


[17-Mar-19 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
and the Muslim Palistinians keep attacking the Jews in Israel


[17-Mar-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
there's conservatives saying that any muslims in congress = incoming sharia law that "THE LIBTARDS" will be "TOO WEAK" to deal with effectively as they "bury their heads in the sand to ignore the inevitable caliphate"


[17-Mar-19 08:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as they have a group of people to point hatred, fear, and paranoia at, they have flocks of people they can direct using that hatred, fear, and paranoia


[17-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Princess Luna#2857
What is happening here?


[17-Mar-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[17-Mar-19 08:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically one of the newest senators a muslim woman, said that people shouldnt be forced to support isreal, and then apologized after being convinced that what she said was anti semetic


[17-Mar-19 08:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now republicans are using that


[17-Mar-19 08:08 AM] Princess Luna#2857
She was convinced? How?


[17-Mar-19 08:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archive.fo/WUae6

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Ilhan Omar on Twitter: "It's all about the Benjamins baby 🎶… "
archived 11 Feb 2019 18:11:09 UTC
https://archive.fo/WUae6/1149589ce9c661d2ab31e2d852e2dbbe5a7e9f86.jpg


[17-Mar-19 08:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was the tweet she was accused of anti semitism over


[17-Mar-19 08:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which basically called out republican politicians for attakcing free speech to protect isreali business interests


[17-Mar-19 08:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/6/18251639/ilhan-omar-israel-anti-semitism-jews

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The Ilhan Omar anti-Semitism controversy, explained
Why her comments about "allegiance" to Israel created such a firestorm — and why it all matters.
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[17-Mar-19 08:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and this is a recap


[17-Mar-19 08:11 AM] Princess Luna#2857
I wish I understood political things, but they make as much sense to me as tits on a radscorpion.


[17-Mar-19 08:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s honestly not much deeper than republicans want money and hate muslims


[17-Mar-19 08:12 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Ah, K.


[17-Mar-19 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
It helps me to think that no one ever grew out of high school cliques they just got more subtle about it


[17-Mar-19 08:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true


[17-Mar-19 08:16 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Well, that sure doesn't sound good.


[17-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
and democrats aren't willing to oppose the republicans on wanting money and hating muslims, only curtail them to keep them from going too deep into the discrimination and greed


[17-Mar-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
third way a shit


[17-Mar-19 08:19 AM] Princess Luna#2857
It sounds as though these parties just want to waste each other's time.


[17-Mar-19 08:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[17-Mar-19 08:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their only goal is making themselves look good for 2020 at this point


[17-Mar-19 08:20 AM] Princess Luna#2857
And then 2020 comes, what will they do then?


[17-Mar-19 08:20 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Waste more time?


[17-Mar-19 08:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
campaign like the world is about to end and thne waste mroe time afterwards


[17-Mar-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, during the elections any person who can be designated as a "skilled/career politician" will say literally anything they feel they need to say in order to get elected and make more money from bribery


[17-Mar-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
(lobbying is basically legalized bribery)


[17-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's a couple democrat freshmen who haven't taken the bribes yet though


[17-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
so maybe they can be a base which can be built off of


[17-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
assuming it doesn't crumble


[17-Mar-19 08:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully


[17-Mar-19 08:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really fucking need it


[17-Mar-19 08:23 AM] Princess Luna#2857
This all sounds like they want to fail on purpose.


[17-Mar-19 08:23 AM] Princess Luna#2857
While taking everyone with 'em


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
no


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
they don't try to do it on purpose


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Nah, no one wants to fail on purpose they think there are no other solutions


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
they just don't care as long as they get the big money


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want money, hate muslims, hate jews, but love Israel cause the jews there hav money and kill muslims.


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what this is about.


[17-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hating jews is unpopular


[17-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But hating Israel is


[17-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you make it such that talking bad about Israel is actually talking bad about jews and then you can shut things down.


[17-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Quite a scheme that is going on.


[17-Mar-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's politics 101


[17-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your enemy's message will be believed, you need to confuse everyone between it and something that won't be.


[17-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans engage in politics with absolutely no principles or morals of any kind.


[17-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
there's literally no reason to listen to the people who voted you in because they don't give you the big money, and they refuse to see "their guy" as the problem


[17-Mar-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats engage in politics with tons of morals.


[17-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This givs Republicans a message advantage cause they can lie better.


[17-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats trip over themselves trying not to sound like they hate jews


[17-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will say they hate jews but love Israel and not take a moment to discuss either.


[17-Mar-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then will pretend they love jews and hate Israel if pressed.


[17-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Hm, I see, this sure is quite the interesting game they are playing.


[17-Mar-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's horrible


[17-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The divide is essentially caring about others vs just plain not


[17-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the ones that don't care about others usually win


[17-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when people mostly disagree


[17-Mar-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they don't *care* about how immoral it is to rig the system


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as they're concerned, 'voter fraud' is just two words to add to your chances of getting elected.


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Princess Luna#2857
They don't care?  That is scary


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell recently was asked why they weren't going to vote on the bill to make elections fairer


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
his response was "because I choose what gets voted on"


[17-Mar-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kindergartener level stuff


[17-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally I'd try to start from a more neutral base and use Republicans' own actions to show why they're bad but there's no point anymore


[17-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav no clothes.


[17-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their party is openly willing to intimidate witnesses testifying before Congress


[17-Mar-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had to be *convinced* to not starve gov't employees to extort the entire country to get some wall that won't help at all


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Princess Luna#2857
And these people run a major political party in America? How can they possibly stay afloat?


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they barely had the defections necessary to then say the president can't just declare an emergency whenever he wants more funding and they can't get the normal votes required.


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voter suppression, gerrymandering, and racists


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the South


[17-Mar-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav something like 65% white, 25% blakk, 10% hispanic


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you need to win an election, you only need that 65%


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The wrinkle is that the whites won't ALL vote for you


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be more like 60% of that 65% do


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the blakks will not vote for you much at all


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially if you court the white racists to get that 60%


[17-Mar-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[17-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of hispanics don't really care about racism against them


[17-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, you can reduce the number of blakks that vote


[17-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you make it so the requirements to be able to vote are hard to get for them


[17-Mar-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if you require that no documentation on them contain typos for them to be registered to vote


[17-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Typos are more likely on blakk names, cause of most of the clerks being white, and there being more variation in blakk names


[17-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and many blakk names being African in origin, so not using English phonetic rules)


[17-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was an actual thing


[17-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans did that in the most recent election in one state


[17-Mar-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
a court had to put a stop to it.


[17-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, gerrymandering can be used to break up a few areas and then pakk things into one area


[17-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
crakking and pakking


[17-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Princess Luna#2857
God damn, now that is quite the laundry list of badness.


[17-Mar-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means you can giv blakks like one representative when they logically should get 3


[17-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And districts are drawn by the party in power of the state legislature after the census finishes


[17-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just so happened because of Obama being elected (blakk, Democrat)


[17-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
that things swung towards Republicans and racism as the census came in


[17-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence they chose the districts in a lot of states


[17-Mar-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resulting in more gerrymandering than pretty much every before


[17-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some states hav had their districting maps thrown out...despite the courts previously pretty much never throwing out gerrymandering


[17-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it just got to a point where like 60% of people would need to vote Democrat to get 50% Democrats in office


[17-Mar-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hilariously, the most recent election was done with only like one state having lost its old maps by the time of the election


[17-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
but toooooons of people voted Dem because of Trump etc.


[17-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was the largest surge of Democratic support since Watergate.


[17-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it still hardly changed the makeup of the House.


[17-Mar-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause things were just that gerrymandered.


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the while, Republicans scream that Democrats are doing voter fraud


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's one actual case of organized voter fraud going on


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's done by Republicans


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blame others for your own actions- is one of their major mottos


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, one fun thing, @Princess Luna, North Dakota


[17-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in 2012, it had a surge of Dem support


[17-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
funny thing about North Dakota: it has no voter registration, unlike pretty much all other states. If you liv there as a citizen, you can vote, period.


[17-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The surge was mostly among Native Americans


[17-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it was enuff to elect a Democrat.


[17-Mar-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Projection is the most common psychological defense tactic, @prism stryder(intexda)


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, what did the ND legislature do?


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican ND legislature passed a law


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying you needed proof of address to vote


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many natives had no street addresses


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the ND legislature has never made it a priority to get them street names and such


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That law got torn up in court


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but as 2018 came around


[17-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they made another, near-identical law that did the same thing


[17-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
knowing that it'd take so long to get torn up by the courts it'd be able to affect the election


[17-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so, a month before the election


[17-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
a court ruled that the prosecution had no standing


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning, you need to be actually an affected party to bring a case, and the prosecution didn't hav someone with them actually known to be disenfranchised


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite it obviously being disenfranchisement


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then activists found a few dozen...thousand people who would be disenfranchised


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and brought them to get the case settled as election day was coming


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[17-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
previous cases hav had judges rule that if it's close to the election, you can't change the law to disenfranchise people


[17-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the court ruled, in a 2-1 vote with 2 Republican-leaning judges...that you can't change the law close to the election to *enfranchise* people.


[17-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so the natives had to continue to rapidly print out proof of address to meet the arbitrary requirement with whatever means available.


[17-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democrat narrowly lost, of course.


[17-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Wow, now that does surprise me, I would have thought the Native Americans would have too small a population to affect anything. My god, they actually got away with disenfranchising them?


[17-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
In most states, they would hav too small a population


[17-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but ND has a lot of large reservations


[17-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, they got away with it...let's see where that case has gone since


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems nothing has happened


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
courts are slow, to be expected.


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
ND also had some *fun* with Keystone XL


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, Canada has oil


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US wants oil


[17-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
so build a pipeline from Canada to the middle of the US


[17-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's that, there are native reservations along the way?


[17-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just skirt them by like half a mile so that if the oil leaks, it goes onto their land, without having to actually put it on their land


[17-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they're natives, and we don't care if we cover their water in oil etc.


[17-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Now that is just monstrous.


[17-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and the court battles on it are *ongoing to this day*


[17-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Will they ever end?


[17-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey, it's touched my state too!


[17-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm in Montana, which is adjacent to North Dakota


[17-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.mtpr.org/post/court-upholds-ruling-bars-keystone-xl-pipeline-work

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Court Upholds Ruling That Bars Keystone XL Pipeline Work
BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — A federal appeals court has upheld a Montana judge's ruling barring construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada.
https://www.mtpr.org/sites/kufm/files/styles/medium/public/201703/keystone-pipeline_flickr-shannonpatrick17-CC-BY-2.jpg


[17-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also hav a large native population and they are none too happy about the whole thing.


[17-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Well, I just hope that this does not get worse.


[17-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it will


[17-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole Keystone mess keeps making more routes to go right down the middle of the US


[17-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entirety of the proposed final stage literally looks like if you chopped the US in half with an oil pipeline at a tilt designed to dodge North Dakota


[17-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they know if they try to go thru ND again, it'll get stopped


[17-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the next phase'll go right thru native lands in Montana and SD


[17-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Princess Luna#2857
So, they are going  to get it built, no matter what, and still at the expense of the Natives. Damn


[17-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless the judges stop them


[17-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a long shot


[17-Mar-19 08:56 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Hopefully they can, somehow.


[17-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's mostly a matter of showing the risks out weight the benefits or that the risks are too great to do period.


[17-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, there were incidents recently where activists used the *necessity defense successfully*


[17-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's a big deal.


[17-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The necessity defense is "I had to break the law, or else people would be hurt."


[17-Mar-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They used it on shutting off parts of an oil pipeline.


[17-Mar-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't even necessarily hope to win, they just wanted to get people aware of how we're killing the environment etc.


[17-Mar-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the areas they did it in are full of people who don't really question the pipelines going thru and tacitly support the Republican party as it tries to deny scientific consensus for profit.


[17-Mar-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-reinventing-climate-activism/

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Pipeline Vandals Are Reinventing Climate Activism
Angry about climate change, activists shut down an oil pipeline in Minnesota—and then tried to convince a jury that their illegal actions were necessary.
https://media.wired.com/photos/5be5ad681023b959f353c09e/191:100/pass/Image%20from%20iOS.jpg


[17-Mar-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd provide stories on everything I mentioned, but this one I find extra awesome/hilarious


[17-Mar-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
also it's 2 AM


[17-Mar-19 09:07 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Intriguing.


[17-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing about the courts is


[17-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
they value evidence


[17-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
For example, when it comes to the executive deciding how to interpret the law


[17-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause the executive can take any "reasonable" interpretation as what to enforce


[17-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
courts use evidence to decide what's reasonable


[17-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the executive has to present that evidence to justify policy changes


[17-Mar-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when the Republican-controlled FCC says that it's revoking Net Neutrality cause it hurt investment, yet Verizon is telling investors it has no effect (and communications to investors are considered legally binding, lying in them gets you fined)...


[17-Mar-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Courts say fukk you FCC that's bullshit


[17-Mar-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that case is currently ongoing, was hilarious to read how the lies were being not listened to in the initial arguing)


[17-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when climate change activists say that oil is destroying the environment as a justification for their actions, the court is required to weigh the evidence


[17-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means you then get scientific evidence that has shown without a doubt that oil burning and oil leaking are terrible for the environment


[17-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there is no credible evidence saying otherwise


[17-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The court then is forced to conclude that, maybe, the right thing to do is to shut down oil pipelines.


[17-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an inescapable conclusion...which has grave implications for the oil industry.


[17-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it may mean, alternative energy or not


[17-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
that oil pipelines are illegal because they deprive people of life.


[17-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Oh dear. Sounds like a hard situation.


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] byte[]#2610
How cute of you


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] byte[]#2610
SCOTUS would take the appeal and reverse the lower court's decision


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially with Gorsuch on it


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] byte[]#2610
With the obvious conservative plants?


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Definitely


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause he's the guy who said


[17-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
that if your brakes don't work


[17-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you'll freeze to death if you stay in one spot


[17-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that driving away isn't excusable cause TECHNICALLY the law only specified you could abandon things by going off on foot


[17-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other judges actually said in their opinion that his dissent "strains credibility"


[17-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is the polite judge way of saying you're full of shit.


[17-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the thing is


[17-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
even with Gorsuch, there's 8 other justices


[17-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas might rule against oil pipelines.


[17-Mar-19 09:20 AM] byte[]#2610
RBG will probably be dead by the time the appeal rolls around


[17-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans might need to replace Ginsburg to actually get a court that will ignore the 14th amendment and necessity defense.


[17-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they lose control of the senate in 2020


[17-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't put a plant in her place


[17-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless she dies really soon


[17-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current SCOTUS I think would come down 5-4 saying that oil pipelines aren't justified, with current evidence.


[17-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hav to prevent it from hitting that point.


[17-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence it is best for them to let the lower courts approve individually of activism as they wait for the chance to completely pakk the courts


[17-Mar-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/434412-washington-senate-passes-bill-that-would-keep-trump-off-2020-ballot?amp

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Washington Senate passes bill that would keep Trump off 2020 ballo...
Washington's state Senate passed a bill this week that would drop President Trump from the state's 2020 presidential ballot until he releases his tax returns.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_031519getty.jpg


[17-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Litrojia#0612
He should release his tax returns, but it's a dangerous precedent


[17-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Yuri#4154

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[17-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Litrojia#0612
Washington wasn't going to swing red anyways, but the idea that a swing state could pull something like this is something I'd rather avoid


[17-Mar-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
california has apparently also passed soemthing liek this


[17-Mar-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Why is mel gibson yeling at me about socialism?


[17-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Yuri#4154
That's Bin Sharpie up there


[17-Mar-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is clearly ultimate scientologist: mel gibson


[17-Mar-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wait i;m thinking tom cruise


[17-Mar-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i always get their names mixed up for soem stupid reason


[17-Mar-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's clearly ultimate scientologist: tom cruise


[17-Mar-19 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
hurr durr https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/12/16/christian-group-opposes-meditation-says-mindfulness-is-against-their-religion/

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https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/12/16/christian-group-opposes-meditation-says-mindfulness-is-against-their-religion/
Christian Group Opposes Meditation, Says Mindfulness Is Against Th...
Christians are desperate to be persecuted.
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[17-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
😂


[17-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wish protestants would fuck off


[17-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
PROPER christianity has enough shit to deal with without american nutsos


[17-Mar-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/434421-trump-criticizes-saturday-night-live-after-show-airs-rerun

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Trump criticizes 'Saturday Night Live' after show airs rerun
President Trump on Sunday knocked "Saturday Night Live" ("SNL") for its repeated jokes at his expense the morning after the sketch comedy show aired a rerun featuring a skit depicting life if he had never become president.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mreporttrumpcmslead_1.jpg


[17-Mar-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the most Boomer president ever


[17-Mar-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[17-Mar-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he just call SNL news?


[17-Mar-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he did


[17-Mar-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really called SNL news...


[17-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It being a rerun is better


[17-Mar-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he called an snl rerun, news...


[17-Mar-19 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/in-the-news/christchurch-killer-used-fortnite-as-online-training-ground/news-story/3b3099d9466045666bf8c3e5407f0807

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Christchurch killer may have 'trained' on Fortnite
Some have noted similarities between the game and the footage of the massacre.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/cfa40f63a0ff5e95af9e7d5ea854b28f


[17-Mar-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao


[17-Mar-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything other than mental health and talking about radicalization of young, socially isolated men


[17-Mar-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fucked up part is i cant tell if this is a satire news site or not


[17-Mar-19 08:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/A9H0IWQ3bpo

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[17-Mar-19 08:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The media is taking all the bait huh


[17-Mar-19 08:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Trained on Fortnite" should be an obvious red herring. Even PUBG or CS:GO would sound that much more credible


[17-Mar-19 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
of course they are


[17-Mar-19 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
thing is, to minion grandmas, Fortnite is still this inscrutable new thing. What are these dances? Why do people get upset about it? Why are so many people talking about it?


[17-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Honahue#0656
The guy never once flossed over the dead


[17-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Honahue#0656
CoD would have been more believable


[17-Mar-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his manifesto, his facebook stream, his callout to trump as a beacon of new white hope. all of it was meant to cause division between so many people


[17-Mar-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was trying to confuse and troll


[17-Mar-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.imgur.com/jKlBpDg

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Bulgarian police uses pepper spray on protestors in front of the parliament. They forget to take the wind into account.
https://i.imgur.com/jKlBpDgh.jpg


[17-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
I suspect he wasn't being satirical when he said he hates Muslims and their birth rates so it's likely he was actually radicalized by "memes"


[17-Mar-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
that has been a regular talking point of internet "intellectuals"


[17-Mar-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Satire is for making a political point ironically.


[17-Mar-19 09:56 PM] Honahue#0656
so is terrorism maybe that's what help people down play him to make him be a lone wolf


[17-Mar-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why psychological evaluation should be mandatory around middle school.


[17-Mar-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[17-Mar-19 09:57 PM] Honahue#0656
the guy was 28


[17-Mar-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes and he probably had 16+ years of being like this


[17-Mar-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People with certain psychological markers need to be picked out early


[17-Mar-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To help them


[17-Mar-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe a mental health program in schools that discourages being a loner


[17-Mar-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Toxic masculinity.


[17-Mar-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically yeah.


[17-Mar-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single spree shooter has been a result of it


[17-Mar-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except maybe the Vegas guy


[17-Mar-19 10:00 PM] Honahue#0656
he was from NZ so I don't know what kinda of culture he was in other than they made LOTR and seem pretty chill usually and the All Blacks are cool


[17-Mar-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mental health program to encourage social interaction and discourage cocooning etc


[17-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they fit a certain mold and resist treatment


[17-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They should be forced to comply


[17-Mar-19 10:01 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
NZ normally IS pretty chill


[17-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who know a culture of guns, not talking to anyone, and being shat on leads to shooting places up etc.


[17-Mar-19 10:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Australian in NZ


[17-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Honahue#0656
actually that's weirder cause the guns he used you couldn't get in Aussie


[17-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Honahue#0656
though I didn't know that NZ allowed AR's either


[17-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically


[17-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My approach to mental health of people who are future dangers to others based on their behavior is


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Try to help them first but if they resist, remove their ability to hurt others


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically if you are completely far gone and genuinely believe the memes like this guy did


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing a step.


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
A very, very important step.


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Step 0.


[17-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun because you're mentally ill


[17-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah again the dude was 28, somehow I suspect he was radicalized well after he was out of school


[17-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav steps 1 and 2 down, but they're futile.


[17-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Believing what he did was mental illness


[17-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mentally ill should not own guns


[17-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The fact that we don't allow ex felons, who paid their debt to society to own guns


[17-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But allow completely delusional people to do so


[17-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is absurd.


[17-Mar-19 10:06 PM] Honahue#0656
well fortunately he was in NZ and so they have a fighting chance to pass some gun laws


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Australia already passed some gun laws a long time bakk


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is step 0?


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prevent mental illness.


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Australia doesn't have racist gun culture tho


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's largely a result of economic factors.


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone with the money can get treatments for most serious disorders.


[17-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Autism though


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Autism doesn't make people shoot up the place.


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Depression does.


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, autism can be reduced by having kids at younger ages


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It causes social isolation which can lead to radicalization


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of spending a third of your life in school.


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's the rub


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you can get people with autism less socially isolated


[17-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
again, economic factors.


[17-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
People don't *want* to retreat into their basement for 10 years when they reach adulthood.


[17-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Honahue#0656
he had enough Bitcoin bux to travel


[17-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Traveling alone isn't much.


[17-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need people engaged working a good job with a steady income that hav options to go pretty much anywhere they want.


[17-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people don't shoot up muslims.


[17-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people do.


[17-Mar-19 10:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He says in the manifesto that he came from a poor and troubled family. But again, that's still very likely to be a lie, as many nazis were raised as privileged fucks, only overplaying their personal problems to create false empathy


[17-Mar-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Privileged nazis didn't go terrorist


[17-Mar-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally it actually is the poor and unprivileged that manage to secure a weapon and pop some people


[17-Mar-19 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This doesn't make much sense


[17-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
at its core, these things happen when you hav a community of the poor where there's an extra division on race


[17-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people shoot the more hated poor people.


[17-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or they shoot at whatever is nearby.


[17-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Rich people go on safari


[17-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eh that's too much to put into it


[17-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just evaluate as a teen and monitor the fuck out of high risk ones


[17-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
And privileged Nazis teach people who to hate


[17-Mar-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[17-Mar-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rate of children admitted for mental disorders has doubled in 10 years


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd end up monitoring pretty much everyone


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is what happens with wealth inequality


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Besides just because someone doesn't go out and shoot someone doesn't make them not complicit


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nebbie


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Also our school system doesn't want kids


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point, the state just can't cope with the sheer number of people who are willing to go out and shoot up the place


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just a specific mold you have to watch out for


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically mental health profiling


[17-Mar-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're never going to fix this by waiting to catch these people


[17-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's far too expensive and they will slip thru the holes in the net.


[17-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't want pity for these people or a society that fears them


[17-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The best way to fix this is, and I'm serious here, to tax the rich double and put the money into child education.


[17-Mar-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society will fear them more if it is cataloging some of them and using a huge dragnet.


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of the controversy as to whether we should ostracize or integrate pedophiles


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What controversy


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chemically castrate them.


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
There was that psychologist who did MRI on sociopaths and did his for funzies and turned out he had the same wiring so it's not all intrinsic


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, sometimes people debate


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of the biggest steps a country in the modern world takes to reduce violence is to get the lead out of the gasoline


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no debate.


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't work, Its


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
First off, if you do it to ones that havn't molested, you raise serious rights issues


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
See?


[17-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
second off, you need to do it constantly, for many, many years


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
third, they will just eventually drop off the grid


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sex offender registry is a huge failure on the matter, btw.


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has too many people on it for even things like taking nudie pics of themselves when they were young


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the constant monitoring drives people away


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
it becomes easier for them to go underground than to stay in the daylight


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, he had the profiles of his family and noticed one of them was the same pattern, so he broke the test blindness and was surprised to find it was his own


[17-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's how you get reoffending


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You always hav to make it easier for people to stay in the daylight


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
instead of hiding it, he went out and started doing TED talks about it


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
only in the daylight do you stop the actual problems


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
you can't lock away a sociopath for being as sociopath unless they can't function in society


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply @Itsthinking, you're talking like an actual fascist


[17-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Honahue#0656
But that's the thing what was the difference between him and them?


[17-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes fascism is a good long-term strategy to keep stability


[17-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it doesn't actually fix this shit


[17-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
extreme gov't monitoring doesn't help anyone


[17-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to prevent the problems to begin with by making society better.


[17-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the gov't can't and often shouldn't see all.


[17-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
also, there's a difference between natural sociopaths and made sociopaths (the ones made by their environment make up the majority of violent sociopaths)


[17-Mar-19 10:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Clearly it isn't because overtly facist states fall in a decade or so


[17-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Environment plays a huge part in how we develop morally, yeah.


[17-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav everyone growing up in a decent family with no problems, you'll pretty much only see Trump-style sociopaths


[17-Mar-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
businessmen who only flourish when all regulation turns a blind eye


[17-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NZ police are going crazy trying to get the video down


[17-Mar-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trying to threaten Americans


[17-Mar-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck


[17-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not everyone has your shitty approach to free speech NZ


[17-Mar-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless it;s a seriously obscure old tv show, scrubbing the internet clean of a video is really hard to do


[17-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Abuse your own citizens but not us


[17-Mar-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and evne if you stall the internet for afew days from psoting it again, someone is inevitably going to break silence


[17-Mar-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It'll just get endlessly recycled on 4chan now


[17-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Princess Luna#2857
No, you mean 4Channel, the new and improved 4Chan.


[17-Mar-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh 4channel is the sfw half of 4chan


[17-Mar-19 10:33 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[17-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize if Q were a real person he would be engaged in high treason right


[17-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[17-Mar-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Leaking deep state secrets would get the high killers on your ass


[17-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Princess Luna#2857
Q from Star Trek:The Next Generation, he is a time lord, can travel through all time periods, usually messes everything up.


[17-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
I know who Q is


[17-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
not even a time lord


[17-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
he's like an interdimensional demigod


[17-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
time lords are still semi-mortal


[17-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Princess Luna#2857
Ah, I got my things confused, been too long, thanks for correcting me.


[17-Mar-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/17/dutch-pm-compares-theresa-may-to-monty-python-limbless-knight

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Mark Rutte says he admires her resilience and blames political posturing for Brexit impasse
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[17-Mar-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/gyy6h5yzeqm21.jpg

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[17-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi

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[17-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
up to $39.2k


[17-Mar-19 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/b22jmc/censorshipnick_monroe_confirms_that_the_new/

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r/KotakuInAction - [CENSORSHIP]Nick Monroe confirms that the New Z...
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[17-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Yuri#4154
>KotakuInAction


[17-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Yuri#4154
Fuck that sub


[17-Mar-19 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck Reddit's administration more for propping up KiA and giving it a new mod as the previous mod saw it as a cesspool and wished to lock it down tbh


[17-Mar-19 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All because KiA brings profit


[17-Mar-19 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, this might be the GamerGhazi part of my brain speaking, whatever


[17-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Yuri#4154
VaLuAbLe DiScUsSiOn


[17-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Yuri#4154
Fuck the Reddit admins


[17-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Yuri#4154
They only do something about shitty subs if they start getting them bad publicity with the media


[17-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Princess Luna#2857
Gamer Ghazi? Intriguing.


[17-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not every place has to have the US' laws.


[17-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they want to run themselves into the ground let em


[17-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully this changes the absolutely shitty Commonwealth culture surrounding speech


[17-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Yuri#4154
The fact that The_Dumbass still exists while breaking Reddit's rules on a daily basis proves that the admins don't give a shit. They know people won't leave, because there's no real good alternative to Reddit


[17-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Princess Luna#2857
I have never used Reddit, but I might soon.


[17-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Yuri#4154
Reddit's mobile app _still_ doesn't give you an option to filter out terrible subs...


[18-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Princess Luna#2857
What about using it on a desktop?


[18-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Yuri#4154
As long as you filter out subs like The_Dumbass and KotakuInAction it might not be _that_ bad


[18-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Princess Luna#2857
Thanks for the advice.


[18-Mar-19 12:15 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brain-trauma-suffered-by-u-s-diplomats-abroad-could-be-work-of-hostile-foreign-government-60-minutes/

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Since 2016, dozens of American officials have come home from Cuba and China with unexplained brain trauma. Evidence shows it may be the work of another government using a weapon that leaves no trace
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[18-Mar-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things are going to get very uncomfortable when they figure out the responsible party


[18-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
probably the stone that gets the WW3 avalanche rolling


[18-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], what is that "certain website that is banned by reddit" they're talking about?


[18-Mar-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Kiwi Farms


[18-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
dafuq is kiwi farms


[18-Mar-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kiwifarms.net/ ?

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Kiwi Farms
Community dedicated to discussing eccentric people who voluntarily make fools of themselves. Explore abnormal psychology and the minds of Internet crazies
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[18-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
why is kiwi farms banned on reddit?


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
They can be kinda shitty.


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because apparently the owner of the site is a dick who doxxes people


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, if they don't like you they'll stalk you down and get every detail of your life.


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Yuri#4154
Let me guess


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Yuri#4154
KotakuInAction saw this as an attack on the freeze peach


[18-Mar-19 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
KiwiFarms have a creepy obsession for breadtube youtubers


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
breadtube?


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I saw long ass threads dedicated to documenting ContraPoints' fuckups and then shitting on her


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For example


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Left-wing YouTube @prism stryder(intexda)


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also known as LeftTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-JJDrMp17s

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Please enjoy this ridiculous thing I made instead of doing grad school work. Watch the full videos at the links below, they are excellent. Hbomberguy: CTRL+A...
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[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh a reference to communist bread lines


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
got it


[18-Mar-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like the Conquest of Bread


[18-Mar-19 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Mar-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[18-Mar-19 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Mar-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conquest_of_Bread

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The Conquest of Bread
The Conquest of Bread (French: La Conquête du Pain; Russian: Хлеб и воля) is an 1892 book by the Russian anarcho-communist Peter Kropotkin. Originally written in French, it first appeared as a series of articles in the anarchist journal Le Révolté. It was first pu...
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[18-Mar-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>kiwifarms


[18-Mar-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus


[18-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine the bottom barrel channer and tumblr poster with a whole wagon of really concerning mental issues and creepy history in tow


[18-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitching about people exactly like them for hours and hours every day


[18-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Obsessively cataloguing every single thing they've said and done and discussing it among themselves


[18-Mar-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even trying to talk to their obsessions as if they were reading the pages of nonsense


[18-Mar-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
kiwifarms is one of the saddest communities on the internet


[18-Mar-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they doxx people apparently


[18-Mar-19 12:57 AM] Yuri#4154
I always found the site sad. How much must your life suck to obsess this much over others on the internet?


[18-Mar-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is just a dick move all around


[18-Mar-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a mess of complete losers whining amongst themselves about other losers that have more social media presence


[18-Mar-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looking into dirt on "problematic" people often leads to some thread there


[18-Mar-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But often, what you find in 2000 posts from people obsessing about every single thing they've ever said


[18-Mar-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
YouTuber Peter Coffin was accused of being a contract killer by them


[18-Mar-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And high-fiving eachother over the sick burns that their "targets" will never read


[18-Mar-19 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
As well as having had a fake girlfriend and currently a fake wife


[18-Mar-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's 4chan with namefagging and cute little "I agree XD" badges


[18-Mar-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's essentially a Something Awful subforum


[18-Mar-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where they bitch about goons but it's patently obvious most of them are in the :10bux: crew or wish they were


[18-Mar-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
so why are they banned on reddit?


[18-Mar-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reddit hates doxxing


[18-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kiwi Farms is essentially "gather up doxxing material" as a site.


[18-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Find all the wrongthink people said, get all the tidbits of info they put out, eventually launch harassment campaign.


[18-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thnk they just like making fun of people


[18-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And doxxing them


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and harassing them


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, they don't


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't they not allow that


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kiwi farms is full of full on doxxing


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Haven't heard of that


[18-Mar-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a lot of catalogging


[18-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of catalogging is to harass or doxx


[18-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally both.


[18-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it was to have a weapon if they do something bad in the future


[18-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To strike when iron is hot not when cold


[18-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
what's considered "bad"? pronouncing a word wrong?


[18-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And maybe discourage bad behavior


[18-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't discourage bad behavior


[18-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When they start posting pictures of people, their home addresses, their workplaces, their birth dates... that's doxxing


[18-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
literal legalized killing doesn't discourage bad behavior


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's painfully obvious the majority of users are basic level chan scum at best


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, do you really trust people to hav all this weaponry to spring on someone


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then only use it as a last resort?


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the internet?


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
How delusional *are you*?


[18-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With so many that are clearly as bad as the people they obsess over and projecting stronger than the bat signal


[18-Mar-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're the worst part of the internet, the kind that just wants to see other people suffer


[18-Mar-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
the only time that blackmail works is when the blackmailer isn't actually 6 different mentally impaired people


[18-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That sits around in a circlejerk trying to out-insult the last guy over some trivial nonsense to get back pats


[18-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think having KF makes people less likely to behave poorly online


[18-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhahahah


[18-Mar-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[18-Mar-19 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For every thread that deals with an actual "sexual predator" or scammer or whatever


[18-Mar-19 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are 30 that are just "this guy was awkward on twitter once, LET'S RUIN HIM" or "Her opinion on Adventure Time is dumb, LET'S SPEND 3 YEARS CRITICIZING HER EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA POST!"


[18-Mar-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A  lot of it is politically motivated, sure


[18-Mar-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they get an actual sexual predator and they think that making the person's life online miserable will stop them from the predation


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up Nick Bate.


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it's actually more likely to make the person become reclusive and unsociable and then go and do more


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
4chan thinks exposing a couple of predators 8 years ago means /pol/ is OK


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
if it's a sexual predator they try to ruin their IRL life too


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
For sure, but you know what really is meant to deal with this?


[18-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police.


[18-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ask the people ToonKritic assaulted about the police.


[18-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Angry mobs that can't kill people don't solve things unless they just hand things over to authorities.


[18-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or TK himself


[18-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What people on the internet say is a crime


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Often is not a crime


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just emotional posts on social media


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or shitposts to get back at someone for being more succesful


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What TK did with the filipino girl might not've been illegal, that's dependent on interpretation of their communications and requesting nudes etc. (he didn't specifically request them)


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, the other allegations never turned up anything


[18-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police hav every reason to not bother.


[18-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police hav actual people out molesting kids at parks to deal with, instead of people who got trikked in a relationship and might've implied they wanted panty shots.


[18-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's police 101.


[18-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[18-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And honestly I think the 100+ phone calls his local PD got from internationally


[18-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
may have caused them to doubt its authenticity


[18-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, they probably couldn't deal with actual crime for a day


[18-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they may hav just went "okay we can either deal with some shit that allegedly happened online involving a girl literally halfway across the world and a he-said she-said...or we can stop a robbery"


[18-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then been unable to do either cause their phone wouldn't stop ringing.


[18-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's kind of the trouble with this sort of thing


[18-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amassing evidence of real crimes and submitting anonymously to the police is great


[18-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
spamming the police in the hopes they act on something that you think might be a crime because you havn't ever read up on stuff, but it just *feels* right and you think spamming will force the police to act...


[18-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
not so great.


[18-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what Kiwi Farms ends up promoting.


[18-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Reddit wants nothing to do with it.


[18-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
KF makes fun of people who do that


[18-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or take it seriously from what I heard


[18-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lately people seem to believe the approach to all problems is spam reports.


[18-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The thing is KF doesn't send reports


[18-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or call the police


[18-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or do anything


[18-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All they do is circlejerk about how much they don't like something


[18-Mar-19 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they don't mind posting doxx that people will find for reports or harassment or whatever


[18-Mar-19 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But none of them give a shit about predators or criminals or whatever outside of the entertainment they give


[18-Mar-19 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the visceral catharsis of hating people together with others


[18-Mar-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the entitled parents videos


[18-Mar-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
people just want to fap about how someone bad exists and they're better than them


[18-Mar-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
same as reality TV as well


[18-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
KF has gotten criminals caught though haven't they


[18-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The internet makes it easy to make someone a circus freak and you too can throw death threats instead of peanuts.


[18-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, inevitably, if you gather info on people


[18-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
law enforcement may be able to use that info to put people in jail


[18-Mar-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could just run a database of tweets and get some people arrested.


[18-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the NSA shenanigans and parallel construction is the internet allows amassing so much data, you can predict where someone will do a drug deal *before they know*


[18-Mar-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minority Report got it wrong, we don't need psychic drug addicts.


[18-Mar-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
Having a few legit criminals being take care by authoritories seems ab it low price for thousands of cyberstalking shit


[18-Mar-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
I had a person on other discord almost doxed because they said mean things about KF after it started to go after a neo doge subreddit and its discord


[18-Mar-19 01:56 AM] ononim#8141
I mean sure, having a laff at Dobson being idiotic asshole is funny, but uhhh it's not worth a few dozen threads where people are doxed because they retweeted fat fur art


[18-Mar-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
found some anti-socialist propaganda https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-democracy/

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https://www.dictionary.com/e/socialism-democracy/
What's The Difference Between Socialism And Communism?
Do you know the difference between capitalism vs socialism vs communism? Angry Twitter users might not, but you can learn the difference.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1000x700-socialism-communism.jpg


[18-Mar-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
implying that socialism and democracy are mutually exclusive


[18-Mar-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
>It’s not all doom and gloom, though. Many Nordic countries operate as social democracies. This means they blend a lot of “socialist” policies (like providing state healthcare, social security, and worker’s compensation) with certain “capitalist” features (like private property and the democratic process).


[18-Mar-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
also pro-capitalist propaganda


[18-Mar-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
implying that democracy requires capitalism to exist


[18-Mar-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
though I don't think there'll ever be a truly free socialist state, it takes too much effort to maintain without dipping into conservative authoritarian bullshit


[18-Mar-19 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it takes a lot of class conscience and will to engage in politics


[18-Mar-19 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Otherwise, you get Venezuela


[18-Mar-19 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, Venezuela might not be socialist


[18-Mar-19 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the traditional sense


[18-Mar-19 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, i'd say it's more of a kind of particularly latin american nationalism


[18-Mar-19 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Caracas Chronicles, despite being a pro-Guaidó outlet today, has an old article from 2003 detailing why Venezuela's political problems are particular to it as a nation


[18-Mar-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
didn't kill enough kulaks smh


[18-Mar-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
hence huge private economy


[18-Mar-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
thanks crapitalism


[18-Mar-19 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[18-Mar-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
they should've nationalized far more


[18-Mar-19 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not a problem of nationalization or privatization tho


[18-Mar-19 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The main problem is that VZ is, naturally, a **petrostate**


[18-Mar-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Petrostates often, culturally, imbue a certain mentality upon people, that wealth is infinite


[18-Mar-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Petrostates also have quite unstable "rollercoaster" economies. Venezuela already had political instability and repression before Chavez came


[18-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
they were nationalizing stupid shit though


[18-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
like beer


[18-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
why the hell does beer need to be nationalized? you don't need to nationalize things for socialism


[18-Mar-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
the government shouldn't be wasting its time running beer factories


[18-Mar-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2003/02/14/the-petrostate-that-was-and-the-petrostate-that-is/

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The petrostate that was and the petrostate that is
Too many foreign observers write about the Chávez era in a historical vacuum. But you can't understand chavismo without a feel for the political economy of the petrostate. The Petrostate that was and
https://g.twimg.com/Twitter_logo_blue.png


[18-Mar-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ah, here it is


[18-Mar-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
the only shit that the government needs to be running is vital infrastructure, it doesn't need to spend its time running random shit like beer beyond regulation to ensure proper safety and making sure that profits are split collectively


[18-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't even see a problem with private ownership under socialist framework as long as there's strong and proactive political restrictions


[18-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
to make it so that billionaires can't just literally buy the country out from under its constituents


[18-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I think that's a mutualist stance


[18-Mar-19 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guild socialism?


[18-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Mutualist believe in markets and property but not absentee property


[18-Mar-19 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
An economist i like, Elinor Ostrom, makes a good argument for cooperatives


[18-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
so if you own land YOU have to use it to own it


[18-Mar-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What about works of art tho


[18-Mar-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty much. If you don't use it or live in a house you don't own the house or the thing.


[18-Mar-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Something to spice up the house's look


[18-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
one of those political test things I took said I'd like guild socialism


[18-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[18-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
I like how the suggested reading for social democracy and third way both have "social democracy" in the titles


[18-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
you could buy art and keep it in your home but the big thing is there's not absentee ownership of property which changes social dynamics a lot by itself


[18-Mar-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
absentee ownership would be like owning a piece of land or property that you don't actively use?


[18-Mar-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
like having a summer home


[18-Mar-19 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
I buy land somewhere and the cops enforce my ownership even if I do nothing with it


[18-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's basically what I said


[18-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
nobody else can use it because you own it, despite you not actually using it for anything


[18-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like limiting absentee ownership would be a really good thing


[18-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
so you can't buy up a bunch of property you don't actually plan on using


[18-Mar-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah there's other implications too though, I could live in NYC and own a mine in Alaska even though I do no work myself


[18-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
owning land and doing nothing with it is maybe the best use of absentee ownership cause at least you aren't fucking with the ecosystem on the property


[18-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/new-zealand-shooting-live-updates/2019/03/17/21bb0634-48ec-11e9-8cfc-2c5d0999c21e_story.html


[18-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
>The man accused of mass shootings at mosques in New Zealand has fired his lawyer and plans to represent himself in court, leading to speculation that he might try to use his trial as a platform for extremist views.


[18-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
>Brenton Tarrant, 28, of Australia, who has been charged with one count of murder, appeared to be lucid and not mentally unstable, said Richard Peters, his former attorney. He is expected to face more charges when he next appears in court on April 5.


[18-Mar-19 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[18-Mar-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well,this should be interesting


[18-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/434424-trump-goes-after-mccain-over-dossier-for-second-straight-day

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Trump goes after McCain over dossier for second straight day
President Trump on Sunday criticized late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for a second consecutive day amid reports that one of McCain's associates had shared a dossier of allegations about Trump's ties to Russia with the media.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_010618upi_lead.jpg


[18-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
>Someday I want to wake up, pour a cup of coffee and not see a page of dumb things Trump has done and said over-night.


[18-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
>Make Politics Boring Again.


[18-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
>I'm tired of having to explain how our government works to my right wing family when they get upset when things aren't going Trumps way because they truly thought the Presidency was a dictatorship because they were told Obama was a dictator.


[18-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
>"But the black guy made it look so easy"


[18-Mar-19 04:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/wSRmU_A0z50

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theory pleeb
https://youtu.be/wSRmU_A0z50
On Louis C.K. pandering to the Anti-PC industry: Do SJWs party or ...
Do SJWs party? Or are they prude and boring wallfowers? Let's use Zizek and Lacan to find out what's wrong with framing such a debate like this while still h...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wSRmU_A0z50/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Mar-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
> one of McCain's associates had shared a dossier of allegations about Trump's ties to Russia with the media


[18-Mar-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
it wasn't McCain then?


[18-Mar-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
not that I really give a shit either way


[18-Mar-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
but if you're going to be sensationalist at least get your shit straight


[18-Mar-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
who, you mean the article or trump?


[18-Mar-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
because trump is attacking mccain


[18-Mar-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
the article is about trump attacking mccain


[18-Mar-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
so if anything, trump's going after the wrong person


[18-Mar-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/court-files-reveal-role-of-mccain-aide-in-spreading-anti-trump-dossier

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/court-files-reveal-role-of-mccain-aide-in-spreading-anti-trump-dossier
Court files reveal role of McCain, associate in spreading anti-Tru...
Newly unsealed court filings show how the late Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and an associate shared with the FBI and a host of media outlets the unverified dossier that alleged the Russians had compromising information on now-President Trump.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2018/09/02/694940094001_5829960569001_5829973625001-vs.jpg


[18-Mar-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
>In a newly unsealed declaration from September, former senior counterintelligence FBI agent Bill Priestap confirmed that the FBI received a copy of the first 33 pages of the dossier in December 2016 from McCain.


[18-Mar-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
so yeah, it was both mccain and an associate


[18-Mar-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
could also be that fox news is misrepresenting mccain's part in handling the dossier and is blaming him by association too


[18-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
>In another filing, David Kramer -- a former State Department official and McCain associate -- said in a Dec. 13, 2017, deposition that the dossier was given to him by author and former British spy Christopher Steele, which he then provided to multiple journalists at outlets including CNN, BuzzFeed and The Washington Post. The details were first reported by The Daily Caller.


[18-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
kramer's the one who gave it to journalists


[18-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
mccain gave it to the FBI


[18-Mar-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, I found some idiots in that kotaku in action post https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/b22jmc/censorshipnick_monroe_confirms_that_the_new/eirfxfn

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r/KotakuInAction - [CENSORSHIP]Nick Monroe confirms that the New Z...
1,675 votes and 549 comments so far on Reddit
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[18-Mar-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
they think that calling out slippery slope is a logical fallacy


[18-Mar-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
when slippery slope is literally a logical argument


[18-Mar-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
the fallacy is when it's used incorrectly


[18-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
literally no one logically argues that a vaguely-worded law isn't meant to give power outside what the law was originally meant for


[18-Mar-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tied-ferguson-protests-have-died-n984261

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tied-ferguson-protests-have-died-n984261
Puzzling number of men tied to Ferguson protests have died
The six deaths drew attention on social media and speculation among activists that something sinister was at play.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_18/1989946/170505-ferguson-edward-crawford-se-1117a_a7a53541b17c33807ea4c03248fee60f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Mar-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
>Two young men were found dead inside torched cars. Three others died of apparent suicides. Another collapsed on a bus, his death ruled an overdose.


[18-Mar-19 06:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imperial internal policy strikes agaib


[18-Mar-19 06:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Again*


[18-Mar-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, talking about the vaguely-worded law?


[18-Mar-19 06:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like

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[18-Mar-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
oh, you mean the mysterious deaths


[18-Mar-19 06:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna982526#click=https://t.co/H9b0AOXYZY

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna982526
Teens, but not adults, suffering mental health disorders linked to...
Young adults born after 1995 are experiencing more mental health issues. Researchers point to lack of sleep and the rise of social media.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2019_11/2783836/190312-teenager-cellphone-social-media-ac-644p_bfc332435bf4890f947b58bea40a1243.jpg


[18-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr sleep is good for you


[18-Mar-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
and social media is really bad for you


[18-Mar-19 07:10 AM] illumnious#7938
Also the damm friends boyfriend/girlfriend thing


[18-Mar-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/hUPhBxTT9vU

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Anarchism Documentary
https://youtu.be/hUPhBxTT9vU
An interview with anarchist Howard J. Ehrlich
We interviewed Howard J. Ehrlich at his home on the 16th of February 2011. These are the raw, unedited interview clips, merged into a single video. Here's a ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hUPhBxTT9vU/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Mar-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
A gentle man, a smart man


[18-Mar-19 09:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/PersonalEscrito/status/1107071094886940678

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ubique (@PersonalEscrito)
https://twitter.com/PersonalEscrito/status/1107071094886940678
No Brasil, em vez de #eggboy, temos uma heroína #egggirl. 😉🥚https://t.co/BeyFHxEIQR
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Twitter


[18-Mar-19 09:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
someone took some great inspiration from the legend himself


[18-Mar-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/ it has been 791 days since northern ireland last had a government

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https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?


[18-Mar-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47611811

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47611811
Hunt for gunman in Dutch city of Utrecht
One person is feared dead and a number are injured amid "several shootings".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p073ws15.jpg


[18-Mar-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no


[18-Mar-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The city of Utrecht has been locked down on threat level 5


[18-Mar-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/live/12mv09tb5s3l3/

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https://www.reddit.com/live/12mv09tb5s3l3/
Several people have been injured in a shooting on a tram in the Dutch city of Utrecht. Terrorist motive not ruled out.
https://www.redditstatic.com/liveupdate-logo.png


[18-Mar-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
live coverage


[18-Mar-19 04:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/mYbs4cBfqYY

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Sir Swag
https://youtu.be/mYbs4cBfqYY
This week's news without the bullshit
Welcome to the 11th week of news without the bullshit in 2019. This week we’ll be covering the global climate change protest which has involved over a millio...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mYbs4cBfqYY/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investigation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002/
Poll: Half of Americans say Trump is victim of a 'witch hunt' as t...
As the Russia report seems near, a USA TODAY/Suffolk poll finds half of Americans agree Trump is the victim of a 'witch hunt;' trust in Mueller erodes
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/13/USAT/c233531a-aed1-465a-8f8b-8df10f522c8f-AF1.JPG?crop=2919,1642,x0,y110&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[18-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
if you repeat the same lie enough times, people will start to believe it


[18-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
especially if you have a megaphone as powerful as the presidential office


[18-Mar-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet that the same thing happened during the investigations into nixon


[18-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/18/erdogan-shows-christchurch-attack-footage-at-rallies

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Erdoğan shows Christchurch attack footage at rallies
New Zealand’s foreign minister condemns Turkish president’s use of video of shootings
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[18-Mar-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
"New Zealand’s foreign minister, Winston Peters, rebuked Erdoğan for using footage of the shootings, saying it could endanger New Zealanders abroad. "

I can't believe I am actually defending the human piece of shit that Erdogan is but no it wouldn't, shut up you tool


[18-Mar-19 07:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/rAFu5TGfxnI

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[18-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
tewl


[18-Mar-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1107708264102400001

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[18-Mar-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/03/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potter-voted-against-brexit/

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[18-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Rowling is really something in the UK isn't she?


[18-Mar-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes but i think it;s a satire site


[18-Mar-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everytime she falls out of relevancy she drops another "Interesting facts" bomb to the lgbt crowd


[18-Mar-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it's satire


[18-Mar-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/434581-steve-king-deletes-facebook-post-asking-who-would-win-new-us-civil-war

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Steve King deletes Facebook post asking who would win new US civil war
A meme posted on Facebook by Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) asking whether red states or blue states would win a new U.S. civil war has been deleted.
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[18-Mar-19 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, it's clear who would win in case of an US Civil War.


[18-Mar-19 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China.


[18-Mar-19 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our next housing market crash will probably result in hundreds more absentee owners who live abroad forever


[18-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
China would lose because it depends on the US to buy its goods


[18-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
China would mostlikely try to mediate


[18-Mar-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or they could profit from financing the reconstruction of US infrastructure after a civil war


[18-Mar-19 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Debt, that is


[18-Mar-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably depend on the final results of said civil war, but china could drive our debt home even further


[18-Mar-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
And cycling through a merry-go-round of groups in the conflict, arming them until they start getting an edge before moving to the next and bleed everyone dry.


[18-Mar-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china is in a great position to be the middle man who bleeds the edge parties dry


[18-Mar-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Mar-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they would be a hard middleman to cut out


[18-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSnaq1gU0YM

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[18-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
\*reactionaryism intensifies\*


[18-Mar-19 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfroFmy6Z2U

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[18-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7Eh6JTKIg

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[18-Mar-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dw public shaming is good when applied properly


[18-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
specifically tucker carlson's stupidity


[18-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Usually dislike Oliver but he made a good point about Leno recently


[18-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
like holy shit, he literally said iraqis are semi-illiterate primitive monkeys, compared women to dogs, and said pedophilia wasn't that bad


[18-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
and the president of the united states is supporting that


[18-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a joke bro


[18-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
omg aaronmk, if discord had a wanking emoji I'd be using it now

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[18-Mar-19 11:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1107757465691656192?s=21

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[19-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Labor411/status/1107758278510026753

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[19-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
why not just link directly to the tweet?


[19-Mar-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he posts videos of fox news kissing his ass on his twitter


[19-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>spanish left wing party gets an ex-general on their ballot
"So cool, the military cares for the people! The party wants people in the know!
>spanish right wing party gets an ex-general on their ballot 5 months later
"FASCISM! FRANCO IS BACK! TANKS ON THE STREETS IF THEY WIN! BURN THE BARRACKS!"


[19-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally the difference between a left-wing and right-wing general tho


[19-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes I forget, every general with conservative views is literally a nazi, while every general with left wing views is a saint propping up tent hospitals


[19-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
no, but what was described is the behavioral differences between left-wing and right-wing generals lol


[19-Mar-19 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I often forget how little I value your opinion, my bad


[19-Mar-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
I never said they were always the behavioral differences, just that what has been describe is technically correct in a hyperbolic fashion


[19-Mar-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
but ok


[19-Mar-19 12:52 AM] ononim#8141
I fail to see how having a general on your side is ever good thing unless they're especially good both as a military AND as a moral person, or if it's after war and they're a war hero


[19-Mar-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Management experience


[19-Mar-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
US generals know how to get away with war crimes without being caught


[19-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain has a problem with a lot of politicians being people that did 5 years in law school or as low level bureaucrats and then spent the next 10-20 years living off the state as local politicians before jumping to national politics


[19-Mar-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Parties try to get old bank managers or company CEOs or generals for their party because they're people with "real world" management experience that haven't lived on the dole half their adult life


[19-Mar-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds like American politics.


[19-Mar-19 12:59 AM] ononim#8141
how do you get politicans who get into nationa scene without first being on local level :ponythinking:


[19-Mar-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
By being celebrity before hand, of course!


[19-Mar-19 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
oof


[19-Mar-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
national parliament


[19-Mar-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though the old orthodoxy had been local-national politics before anyways with some alliances and stan'ing with far more major politicians.


[19-Mar-19 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're the candidate for X province even if they've only lived there for 6 months


[19-Mar-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or if anything you start work in politics as an aide, then to some local political position once you got some small-time party alliances, and you build up from there if you're lucky.


[19-Mar-19 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then they move to the capital and play national politics


[19-Mar-19 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The current "far left" party leader is spain has been on paternity leave for half a year after buying  a 620k euro mansion


[19-Mar-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This two years after he denounced, explicitly, other politicians for living in cheaper homes as being decadent capitalists


[19-Mar-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His party was funded by Maduro


[19-Mar-19 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not brining a new age of glory to the CNT or FAI


[19-Mar-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can't have corruption when all the leaders and paid absolute minimum


[19-Mar-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And after that became common knowledge, it started to disintegrate with every regional branch siding with literal separatist fascist parties


[19-Mar-19 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
AH a mess


[19-Mar-19 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
~~at least yiu have something and not just court jesters~~


[19-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His top lieutenant stabbed him in the back to support a "sister party" in the capital that refused to officially join the national party


[19-Mar-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in the US both parties are demanding vows of loyalty. Or the Republicans did last cycle and now the Dems are this cycle.


[19-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile the "socialist" party is busy expunging regional "barons" that don't fall in with the leader's plan of building a coalition with racist radical parties that support him simply because the alternative is the centralist center and right wing parties


[19-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
@AaronMk do you mind giving me a tl;Dr of that video on doom because I don't feel like watching it right now


[19-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Nor do I have the time to rn


[19-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
dems are attempting to demand party loyalty


[19-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's not working


[19-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-Mar-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
at least for the moment


[19-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
maybe they'll eventually find something which curtails the freshman leftists


[19-Mar-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Beto taking the primary would win over a whole lot of Texas republicans that'd vote him just because TEXAS


[19-Mar-19 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
What is beto draw? Besides trying (and failing) to be hip afaik?


[19-Mar-19 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey Original Doom was good because you could identify the particular personalities of each person in the game and how it was a labor of love and not of capital. And Bethesda has murdered that with the game being not only silo'd off to various large but non-communicative design departments where everything is alienated from one another and there's not a lot of personal identity with things; though this is more an issue of Id studio and the current studio system as a whole. But as a principle the conditions surrounding the new Dooms is emblematic of the labor philosophy of the video game industry as a whole of bitter worker mistreatement. The design philosophy of Doom having changed since the good old days vs now is also symptomatic of the industry as a whole and things just being washed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Modding is also dead in the game with a vague gesture at user generated content with a map editor that's just snapping pre-made assets together as part of Bethesda-Zenimax having more and more control of game design as profit-making and not making, y'know: art. So in the end start looking into indiegames because that's where the fun, creative, and quirky stuff is at if you're thinking of being serious.


[19-Mar-19 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always fun when people look outside in and get it wrong but try to sound right


[19-Mar-19 01:13 AM] ononim#8141
I can't say anything whatsoever on the account of not playing new doom (yet)


[19-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
Doom 2016 was phenomenal


[19-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
The single player anyway


[19-Mar-19 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
Best fps of the decade IMO


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
@Teaspoon are you referring to Aaron?


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] RYDE#8862
I like the original Doom


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doom 2016 design was extremely tight, focused, and bereft of these "non-communicative" issues


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But go on I guess, random youtube clickbaiter


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Aye


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah I was gonna say lol


[19-Mar-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
I looked at the comments in the vid


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
And some were criticizing what the talking head said


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
beto's got a bit of a popularity wave from being a socially left neoliberal that managed to almost beat a GOP powerhouse in what was considered a GOP stronghold state


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] ononim#8141
Ye but what he has to offer against for example Warren?


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
nothing


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A dick


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Irish


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
@RYDE the og doom was the shit


[19-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Red blooded texan


[19-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
granted, it's now mostly recognized that texas is becoming a purple state


[19-Mar-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
it'll be purple within the next 10-15 years at the current rate


[19-Mar-19 01:18 AM] RYDE#8862
@Mikey It most certainly is.


[19-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Mikey#7286
~~quake 1 is better tho~~


[19-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's an extremely different game


[19-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[19-Mar-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
I know


[19-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
I still prefer it tho


[19-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good news


[19-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nvidia is bringing DX12 raytracing to GTX 1060+ GPUs


[19-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Huh


[19-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So you can probably replay Quake 1/2 with fancy raytrace lighting soon


[19-Mar-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
I played a bit of this new quake 1 mod recently, quake 1.5


[19-Mar-19 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
It's basically like brutal doom but for quake


[19-Mar-19 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
neat


[19-Mar-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/18/border-wall-pentagon-military-funds-1226145

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Pentagon details military projects at risk in border wall fight
Democrats have accused Acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan of keeping mum on what military projects could be raided.
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[19-Mar-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
>Lawmakers in both parties are dyspeptic over potentially raiding the defense budget for a border wall — a move they fear will hurt military readiness just as it’s being rebuilt.


[19-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
guess who benefits from  a "deficit" in "military readiness"


[19-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUILD LESS TANKS


[19-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
(in the US, "military readiness" means "ready to declare war on the entire planet at once at the drop of a hat")


[19-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pentagon has been asking to stop building tanks for 10 years.


[19-Mar-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress keeps ordering more tanks


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's utterly comical


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, tanks are bad in modern warfare


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military says no more tanks and  Congress not only buys more, it buys *more more*


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
both against other countries and against the primary modern enemy (insurgencies)


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
any sort of enemy air support makes tanks useless


[19-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
not even air superiority anymore


[19-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
tanks are easily destroyed by mortars as well


[19-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
and infantry weapons like the javelin


[19-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
there's no way to protect any land vehicle against javelins


[19-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
in games like battlefield, they have to be balanced by making them do LESS damage than RPGs, even though RPGs are basically useless against modern tanks


[19-Mar-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've tried to tell others tanks are basically useless


[19-Mar-19 02:45 AM] Honahue#0656
the Abrams isn't much use in urban combat but the Israelies make some good tanks for that specific purpose but it would get wrecked in an open field


[19-Mar-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
and javelins have a BIGGER payload than RPGs


[19-Mar-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they mostly fall bakk on the idea cruise missiles are too expensive and that infantry on APCs aren't enuff to take cities


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
all their tanks are also troop transport


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
>meanwhile, Russia is not building tanks, just a shitton of cruise missiles so anyone that challenges them blows up before firing a single shot


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
uh


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
casualties on your side aren't just bad inherently


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
you mean an infantry fighting vehicle?


[19-Mar-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hurt fighting morale


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
that's the hybrid between tank and APC


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
your country will stop you from fighting if you accrue too many casualties


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
there's the T80 and they have a lot of them


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
furthermore, cruise missiles are cheap


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
so instead of sending in the troops, if you're in a legit war and not some sneaky shit you pretend is rebels


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just blow up the enemy's everything until they surrender


[19-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the US is considered "militarily unready" when it can only declare war on and successfully defeat only half the planet simultaneously


[19-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's likely the future of any war like Iran vs. the Saudis


[19-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saudis just send more missiles and blow up Iranian ones


[19-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran surrenders with like 200 deaths total


[19-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Honahue#0656
the Merkava is a bit bigger than most infantry fighting vehicles


[19-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
tbh israel is probably one of the only countries in the world with an actual tactical reason to maintain MBTs


[19-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
the US hasn't needed MBTs for decades


[19-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
when you have sufficient air and sea superiority, MBTs become useless


[19-Mar-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
a drone does what an MBT does at the fraction of the cost


[19-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
kinda but you can park an MBT on a point you need multiple drones in the air for constant coverage and they don't carry a lot of ammo


[19-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
to my knowledge they don't inflight refuel drones


[19-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
the Global Hawk can stay up for 24 hours, but it flies too high to engage a target, bombs tend to tumble and land wherever from the altitudes it hangs at, and it's actually got a larger wingspan than the U2


[19-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Preds are still prop driven


[19-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
the US is the definition of air and sea superiority and has more than enough drones to cover an entire sky of any country constantly


[19-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean I did that for awhile


[19-Mar-19 03:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/298-the-israel-nerd-feat-eli-valley-31819

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298 - The Israel Nerd feat. Eli Valley (3/18/19)
Eli Valley stops by to talk Ilhan Omar, Meghan McCain, Chelsea Clinton, and the latest act of fascist mass murder in Christchurch, NZ.

Also Virgil solves the Israel-Palestine conflict.

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[19-Mar-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Mar-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've never argued with anyone who refuses to see trump is at least a little fishy who doesn't just constantly go around in circles with whatboutism non-sequiturs


[19-Mar-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest distinction to make is that there's always those people who claim to not be trump supporters at all, but when you actually argue with them it's obvious they'd vote for him no questions asked


[19-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltTQNNsZ4o

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Zero Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltTQNNsZ4o
The Framing of the Zizek vs. Peterson Debate
Ben Burgis evaluates the framing of the Zizek vs. Peterson debate and concludes that the way the debate is being framed includes a category mistake and aims ...
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[19-Mar-19 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's part of my to-listen to list as soon as this Peter Coffin live stream starts and then finishes.


[19-Mar-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/434642-nunes-sues-twitter-users-for-more-than-250m

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Nunes sues Twitter, users for more than $250M
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee and its former chairman, is suing Twitter and a number of its users for more than $250 million.
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[19-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://thehill.com/policy/international/434641-trump-to-meet-with-bolsonaro-in-boost-to-us-brazil-alliance

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Trump to meet with Bolsonaro in boost to US-Brazil alliance
President Trump will meet with Brazil's "Trump of the Tropics" for the first time on Tuesday in a high-profile visit earning criticism from opponents in both countries.
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[19-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
what a shock


[19-Mar-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he will


[19-Mar-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he never misses an opportunity to get a political BJ


[19-Mar-19 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real question is who's ego will fuck this up worse?


[19-Mar-19 12:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1107771030385426432?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1107771030385426432?s=21
While the press doesn’t like writing about it, nor do I need them to, I donate my yearly Presidential salary of $400,000.00 to different agencies throughout the year, this to Homeland Security. If I didn’t do it there would be hell to pay from the FAKE NEWS MEDIA!
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[19-Mar-19 12:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realtuckfrumper/status/1107834149836984321?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realtuckfrumper/status/1107834149836984321?s=21
@realDonaldTrump You should save it for bail...!

You may get a family discount! https://t.co/BiuadoBfOc
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[19-Mar-19 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I want to welch on this promise but if i do, the FAKE NEWS NO COLLUSION will get mad with me!


[19-Mar-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
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[19-Mar-19 04:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1108028566791471104?s=21

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I will be looking into this! #StopTheBias https://t.co/ZTWQolvmdM
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[19-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Yuri#4154

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[19-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[19-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More vaporware from the president


[19-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when birthright citizenship was going to go away?


[19-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Forcing opinions to the degree the right wants is gonna make them regret it


[19-Mar-19 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[19-Mar-19 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the law that if you are born in america you have automatic citizenship?


[19-Mar-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/19/704586335/white-nationalist-groups-increase-recruiting-and-propaganda-across-the-west

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White Nationalist Groups Increase Recruiting And Propaganda Across...
The Anti-Defamation League says white supremacist propaganda has increased by over 180 percent in the last year, as they seek to recruit disaffected white kids looking for community.
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[19-Mar-19 06:41 PM] Yuri#4154
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I_HdqYCDcVE

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Brexit: PragerU vs. Reality
=Support me via= ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/ThreeArrows? ► TipJar: https://ko-fi.com/threearrows =Other Stuff= ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/_T...
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[19-Mar-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-immigration/us-supreme-court-gives-trump-victory-on-immigration-detention-idUSKCN1R01TF

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U.S. Supreme Court hands Trump a victory on immigration detention
The Supreme Court on Tuesday endorsed the U.S. government's authority to de...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190319&t=2&i=1368054204&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF2I15C


[19-Mar-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
"The court ruled 5-4 along ideological lines, with its conservative justices in the majority and its liberal justices dissenting, that federal authorities could pick up such immigrants and place them into indefinite detention anytime, not just immediately after they finish their prison sentences."


[19-Mar-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
concentration camp time


[19-Mar-19 07:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/blogto/status/1107996098214445057?s=21

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Someone wore a MAGA hat to a vigil for New Zealand mosque shooting victims at York University #Toronto https://t.co/D95UAezl1J
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[19-Mar-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, apparently trump's social media """chief""" got blocked on twitter from spamming the same link in like a dozen separate tweets


[19-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Cohen lied to Congress and got three years in prison but Kavanaugh did it several times and got to be a SCOTUS justice


[19-Mar-19 08:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1107800351376375808?s=21

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[19-Mar-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12213889&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_tw&ref=NZH_Tw&hootPostID=2ca09c11e78af3dc38ba232b0fd33a2d&fbclid=IwAR237UwG9OjtmLWUPaxnZaJOkHmG7o9HB7eJ9ds5rZt5420CNDRbsblHOD0

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'Egg Boy' to donate money raised for him towards victims of Christ...
'He is committed to sending a majority of the money to the victims. '
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[19-Mar-19 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wXt5Nho7pM

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Christchurch, Pewdiepie, and Identity │█║▌ 𝙼𝙰𝙽...
Give to Christchurch victims/their families: https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/christchurch-shooting-victims-fund 💥BECOME A PATRON at http://patreon.com/peterc...
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[19-Mar-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-tells-supporters-he-plans-2020-bid-11553033380

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Joe Biden Tells Supporters He Plans 2020 Bid
Former Vice President Joe Biden reached out to at least a half dozen supporters Tuesday to tell them he intends to run for president and to ask for their help in lining up contributions from major donors to quickly raise several million dollars, according to a person familiar...
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[19-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Yuri#4154
From what I've heard of this guy, he isn't that great


[20-Mar-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are saying biden just handed trump the election


[20-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How?


[20-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He would have won if he ran in 2016.


[20-Mar-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure


[20-Mar-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe he's a divisive blow in the democratic voter base?


[20-Mar-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats are pretty much doing what the republicans did in 2016


[20-Mar-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
throwing as many candidates into the ring as they can to see who sticks


[20-Mar-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and most of them have rthe same issue republicans had durign 2016


[20-Mar-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they focus too much on trump and not enough on important issues


[20-Mar-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not entirely clear on why Biden is a bad thing though


[20-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some plagiarism scandal no one cares about anymore.


[20-Mar-19 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
> when you're the presidential nominee and your wife plagiarizes MLP  to write a speech


[20-Mar-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[20-Mar-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s apparently too establishment


[20-Mar-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much how hillary clinton was too establishment


[20-Mar-19 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's the opposite of the type we need that challenges the status quo and wants legit change


[20-Mar-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's Uncle Joe


[20-Mar-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you want to feel good about change or do you want policy passed and judges appointed


[20-Mar-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
beto's basically a younger, fresher biden btw


[20-Mar-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really knwo anything about beto, and I dont really have an opinion on biden much


[20-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
beto would probably bring some new ideas, but his policies would be mostly traditional neoliberal democrat junk


[20-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
biden would be like a lefter bush jr


[20-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
bush would've been a great peacetime president


[20-Mar-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am more of a fan of biden than beto, tbh, but it is still way too early for me to have a horse in this race


[20-Mar-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think either one's the ideal candidate


[20-Mar-19 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden would be great if Trump hadn't happened, but he did


[20-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
bernie's the only one with a real shot at beating trump tbh, the rest are either nobodies, too establishment, or have some dumb baggage (warren)


[20-Mar-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/statue-liberty-climber-covers-face-tape-sentencing-n985106

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Statue of Liberty climber covers face in tape at sentencing
After being spared prison time, Therese Okoumou stood and turned around to face several dozen supporters before raising her fist in the air.
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[20-Mar-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
>After she did so, U.S. Magistrate Judge Gabriel W. Gorenstein spared Therese Okoumou from prison for her conviction on multiple misdemeanor counts though he berated her for what he thought was a lack of concern for rescuers whose safety he said she jeopardized.


[20-Mar-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the claim was that she tried to push down ladders of "rescuers" when she wasn't even in a dangerous position iirc


[20-Mar-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
she was just on the base of the statue


[20-Mar-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180704163109-03-liberty-climber-0704-screengrab-exlarge-169.jpg

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[20-Mar-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's an iffy position, but not immediately dangerous


[20-Mar-19 02:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
looks like a 2 and a half floor drop. Looks pretty easy to climb up there. just climb up from the door arch.


[20-Mar-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what was her motive there, or was it simply to prove she coudl climb it?


[20-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
to protest the separation of immigrant children from their families


[20-Mar-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[20-Mar-19 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that there's a whole lot of statue base below this pic, so if the ladder had pitched backwards there'd be a lot more than 2 stories


[20-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
tbh the ladder is probably more dangerous than getting down from the door arch


[20-Mar-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Mar-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a long ass drop


[20-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
seeing the similarities in MAGA hatters and SJWs is both disturbing and entertaining


[20-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
they always have reactionary writing patterns


[20-Mar-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
like if you say something that they don't like, they'll go off on a tirade about how such and such thing makes you bad for saying that


[20-Mar-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
and pointing out that you didn't actually say what they claimed you said makes them go off on another tirade about how such and such thing proves that you actually said what you didn't say


[20-Mar-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
and pointing out that what they just said made no sense whatsoever makes them triggered and start accusing you of being a shitlord/communist/whatever


[20-Mar-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/03/amlo-presidency-morena-sovereignty-environment-policing

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AMLO’s First One Hundred Days
AMLO’s first one hundred days in office has shown what the Mexican left will need to do throughout his term: defend him against attacks from the Right, while building a movement to push him from the Left.
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[20-Mar-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
"AMLO, as he is known for short, has proven to be a consummate master of political imagery. Within minutes of assuming the presidency on December 1, 2018, he opened the lavish presidential residence Los Pinos to the public for the first time. Hours before his inauguration, the first curious visitors were already wandering wide-eyed through a sumptuous series of rooms that, in symbolic terms, carried similar weight to the unveiling of Ceausescu’s Spring Palace in Bucharest. AMLO rode to the inauguration from his private residence — where he continues to live — in the same simple Volkswagen Jetta subsequently used to usher around visiting heads of government such as Spain’s Pedro Sánchez. And with the windows down, he allowed a cyclist to ride up and wish him well with the words: “En ti confiamos.” We trust you."


[20-Mar-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Such a pure man


[20-Mar-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He's started doing two hour daily press briefings and working with the press in a far far less scripted manner then before.


[20-Mar-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
>They're archived on Spotify


[20-Mar-19 07:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[20-Mar-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/18/putin-signs-fake-news-internet-insults-bills-into-law-a64850

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Putin Signs 'Fake News,' 'Internet Insults' Bills Into Law
Insulting state symbols and the authorities, including Putin, will carry a fine of up to 300,000 rubles and 15 days in jail.
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[20-Mar-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck with that putin


[20-Mar-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck with that


[20-Mar-19 01:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he doesn't need luck


[20-Mar-19 01:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the point of this isn't to silence dissent directly, it's to give him an excuse to target anyone and to turn people on each other


[20-Mar-19 01:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MikeGravel/status/1108225117987983360

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@nikhilgoya_l Why stop there? A just society would throw Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Elliot Abrams, and all their ilk in prison for life. A just nation should not have a mass-murderer like Kissinger walk free.

#Gravel2020
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[20-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

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Libertarian socialism
Libertarian socialism (also known as socialist libertarianism) is a group of anti-authoritarian political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy. Libertarian socialism is cl...
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[20-Mar-19 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Mar-19 06:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-hit-squad-khashoggi-death-reportedly-asked-for-bonus-2019-3

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The Saudi hit squad linked to the Khashoggi murder reportedly aske...
The squad was reportedly named the "Saudi Rapid Intervention Group" by US officials, and their duties included kidnapping and torturing state critics.
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[20-Mar-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/704926048/gorsuch-provides-decisive-5th-vote-in-case-interpreting-treaty-with-indian-tribe

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Gorsuch Provides Decisive 5th Vote In Case Interpreting Treaty Wit...
On a conservative court, Justice Gorsuch has been one of the most conservative voices. But in cases involving Indian treaties and rights, he is most often sympathetic to Indian claims.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/03/19/gettyimages-1074946526gorsuch_wide-f16039aca72e2cd84b21edfab7e6fc262a53744b.jpg?s=1400


[20-Mar-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
>On Tuesday, Gorsuch split from his conservative colleagues, siding with the court's more liberal members in a case involving the Yakama Tribe and its right under an 1855 treaty to travel the public roads without being taxed on the goods brought to the reservation.


[20-Mar-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, people who grew up in the East basically don't believe Indians are real


[20-Mar-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they hear there was some 1855 treaty to secure manifest destiny with some concession and just go "ancient history, we didn't mean it, doesn't affect anyone now"


[20-Mar-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile people in the West who hav actually seen reservations go "dude there are actually people who we fukked up royally and still depend on promises we made in the 19th century, stop trying to make us EVEN BIGGER LIARS"


[20-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Gorsuch cares about the legal texts in and of themselves


[20-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
telling him a treaty signed doesn't mean anything is not going to go down well in his mind


[20-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans shot themselves in the foot


[20-Mar-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/politics/clarence-thomas-speaks-supreme-court.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/politics/clarence-thomas-speaks-supreme-court.html
Clarence Thomas Breaks a Three-Year Silence at Supreme Court
Justice Thomas asked questions in the case of Curtis Flowers, who has been tried six times for murder. The court will decide whether jury selection was marred by racial discrimination.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/20/us/20dc-scotus/20dc-scotus-facebookJumbo.jpg


[20-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, he has spent three years not asking any questions because it's "rude". Rude. For the Supreme Court. To ask questions.


[20-Mar-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now suddenly he asks a question, and it's essentially whataboutism to say that we shouldn't blame the prosecution for selecting only white jurors when the defense had to not accept some white jurors (implying that the racial thing is two-sided so we shouldn't punish anyone)


[20-Mar-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives love this stuff.


[20-Mar-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easily top five worst justices


[20-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only "modern" one I'd question more is McReynolds


[20-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was like a fucking cartoon character and of course, a Wilson appointee


[20-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More people went to the funeral of his housekeeper than to his own.


[20-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47642335

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Trump complains about John McCain funeral
"Not my kind of guy," the president says of the late Republican senator in his latest attack on him.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/141E1/production/_106110428_053073995.jpg


[20-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve, I don't care about this, I didn't get a thank you. That's OK."


[20-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pure class


[20-Mar-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
wat


[20-Mar-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
>Mr Trump approved the military flight of McCain's remains from Arizona to Washington, but it was Congress that accorded the late senator the honour of lying in state.


[20-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/kentucky-governor-deliberately-exposed-his-children-chickenpox-n985551

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Kentucky governor deliberately exposed his children to chickenpox
Gov. Matt Bevin believes parents who are worried about chickenpox should have their children vaccinated, but that it shouldn't be mandated by the government.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_12/2793261/190320-matt-bevin-ac-411p_721e9cb427b7af569f8d92fe9f83517e.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Mar-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
fucking moron


[20-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Non vaccination unless for legitimate medical or religious reasons should be considered per se child abuse


[20-Mar-19 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AIzpzhXh1SR2sU8wKyPiCeg

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https://apple.news/AIzpzhXh1SR2sU8wKyPiCeg
Ex-spa owner denies selling access to Trump, says Dems target her ...
In an interview with NBC News, Cindy Yang said: "I love Americans. I love our president. I don’t do anything wrong."
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQUl6cHpoWGgxU1Iyc1U4d0t5UGlDZWcAMA


[20-Mar-19 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Because she’s a Chinese Republican


[20-Mar-19 11:54 PM] illumnious#7938
:caddy:


[20-Mar-19 11:54 PM] illumnious#7938
What kind of article is this?


[20-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol she's directly connected to a CCP foreign interference organization


[20-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That exists basically to do borderline spying on the West


[20-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t3aLq3l4oM

weird thing is going on regarding any vids related to the drag kid

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t3aLq3l4oM
THEY'RE TRYING TO SILENCE ME, FALSE COPYRIGHT BLOCK
UPDATE: Around The Time This Video was Published the Company RELEASED The FAKE Copyright Block on My video Which IS LINKED BELOW. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2t3aLq3l4oM/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's called YouTube


[20-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
welcome to 2016


[20-Mar-19 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Three faces of Trump

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[20-Mar-19 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
NBC News picked the best face


[21-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/trump-tariffs-automobiles-commerce-1228344

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/trump-tariffs-automobiles-commerce-1228344
Trump administration withholds report justifying 'shock' auto tariffs
The Commerce Department's February finding that major tariffs on foreign cars can be justified on national security grounds has not previously been confirmed.
https://static.politico.com/7d/26/b95514494dfbb5706d3dadc3940b/190319-lighthizer-navarro-gty-773.jpg


[21-Mar-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
and this is the separation between neoliberalism and conservatism


[21-Mar-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
expect trump to take a popularity hit if this happens


[21-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
also, apparently conservative talking heads are using the fact that tlaib and omar wear hijabs as proof that they adhere to sharia


[21-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Ugh, one of the things I hoped Trump would actually do would be repeal the Chicken Tax but instead he's expanding it


[21-Mar-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chicken tax?


[21-Mar-19 12:29 AM] Honahue#0656
It used to be about chickens but the only thing left is a tax on foriegn light trucks


[21-Mar-19 12:30 AM] Honahue#0656
It's why we have the Tacoma not the Hilux


[21-Mar-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure Nissan and Toyota make their American trucks in the states to get around it's. I know Toyota has a plant in Kentucky


[21-Mar-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO1sQI0AHaU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO1sQI0AHaU
Regular Car Reviews: 1991 Nissan D21 Hardbody
Why can't we have small pickup trucks in the USA? Oh yea, Chicken-Tax.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eO1sQI0AHaU/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Germany didn't like that the US was flooding the market for chikken


[21-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it tariffed US chikken


[21-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the US tariffed light trukks because Germany made light trukks


[21-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now Germany doesn't really make light trukks and tons of places make chikken, and Germany knows a tariff wouldn't do any good


[21-Mar-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[21-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the US charges a shitton for Ford to dare put light trukk manufacturing anywhere but the US


[21-Mar-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes Ford less competitive


[21-Mar-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile Toyota is making a killing


[21-Mar-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
All because of an irrelevant dispute with one of our own allies during the Cold War


[21-Mar-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tariffs **don't fukking work**


[21-Mar-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tarrifs are fucking dumb as fuck


[21-Mar-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont do anything but raise prices so people cant buy things thye need


[21-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They made plenty of sense in the days trade had to pass thru large areas to get where it needed to get and it was like the only way you could fund gov't because otherwise it'd be wealthy merchants crushing the poor and nobody paying taxes


[21-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then deepwater navigation became a thing


[21-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the industrial revolution happened


[21-Mar-19 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best are tariffs on hand crafted specialty products or on high end electronics


[21-Mar-19 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, this artesanal one of a kind item is really something I could've bought at my local market, same as this 400 euro device that's only made in a factory in South Korea and was invented by people from 7 different nationalities


[21-Mar-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we must tarrif the pin sets!


[21-Mar-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TARRIF THE WHOLE OF ETSY!


[21-Mar-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://thesentinel.net/politics/missouri-bans-all-federal-gun-control-laws-in-23-10-vote/?fbclid=IwAR0o3DlFydxh9khHoyrnFxpmp0HIcZZ02iUSA6DjfZR9c_u1vccY7vGDBSk

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http://thesentinel.net/politics/missouri-bans-all-federal-gun-control-laws-in-23-10-vote/?fbclid=IwAR0o3DlFydxh9khHoyrnFxpmp0HIcZZ02iUSA6DjfZR9c_u1vccY7vGDBSk
Missouri Senate Bans All Federal Gun Control Laws in Proposed Bill
Historic vote would nullify all past, present and future gun control legislation in the State of Missouri.
http://thesentinel.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/6F9C48E2-0301-40F2-947C-53E57576F875.jpeg


[21-Mar-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think that's how federal law works


[21-Mar-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's Jackson when you need him


[21-Mar-19 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I want this to be


[21-Mar-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant tell if this is satire or not


[21-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Repeal the NFA


[21-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Burn the registry


[21-Mar-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sell guns to children!


[21-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
>make enforcement of those laws by federal officers within the State of Missouri a criminal offense


[21-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's illegal


[21-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
even the US supreme court would agree on that point


[21-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lawyers are bad at math

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[21-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
probably 6-3 or even 5-4, but it would agree that you can't make it illegal for federal officers to enforce federal law


[21-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't force states to enforce federal law


[21-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But a state can't nullify a federal law


[21-Mar-19 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
oh yeah if they actually do this the courts will be all over that shit


[21-Mar-19 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
there'd be like an immediate TRO from a federal circuit court and they'd lose fast


[21-Mar-19 02:11 AM] ononim#8141
>Historic vote would nullify all past, present and future gun control legislation in the State of Missouri.


[21-Mar-19 02:11 AM] ononim#8141
McNukes time


[21-Mar-19 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47638619

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Kazakh capital renamed after ex-leader
Astana becomes Nursultan just one day after Nursultan Nazarbayev's surprise resignation.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/ECFE/production/_106107606_gettyimages-632370172.jpg


[21-Mar-19 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao Borat country


[21-Mar-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a bad rename.


[21-Mar-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
astana was such a better name though


[21-Mar-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-fox-spinoff-20190319-story.html

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Murdoch family launches a new Fox, and former House Speaker Paul R...
The new Fox launches amid high anxiety on the company's Los Angeles lot: More than 3,000 jobs are expected to be eliminated.
https://www.latimes.com/resizer/cHoeQpktRv-908fH9OlQoUAwaNs=/1200x0/www.trbimg.com/img-5c918e4c/turbine/la-fi-ct-fox-spinoff-20190319


[21-Mar-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
paul ryan is one of the people running the fox news reboot


[21-Mar-19 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the thing that bothers me most about this is just how much more of a monster Disney is gonna be after this


[21-Mar-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[21-Mar-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney also now owns national geographic and the FX


[21-Mar-19 04:54 AM] Honahue#0656
you mean you don't want every mid to big budget movie to be a Disney production?


[21-Mar-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Other Fox assets going to Disney include the FX and National Geographic channels, international television assets, including Star India, and Fox’s 30% stake in streaming service Hulu, which will give Disney the controlling interest in that growing business.


[21-Mar-19 04:55 AM] Honahue#0656
IP's they got Xmen, Alien, Predator, Avatar and loads more I can't think of


[21-Mar-19 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the simpsons as well


[21-Mar-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Disney must sell the 22 Fox regional sports networks, including the YES network in New York, which broadcasts Yankees baseball games, and Prime Ticket and Fox Sports West in Los Angeles. Disney wanted to buy the regional channels, but the U.S. Justice Department would not allow that. In order to gain regulatory approval of the deal, Disney agreed to divest the regional sports channels.

Disney has 90 days to sell the regional sports channels but would like to identify a buyer within a month, according to a knowledgeable person who was not authorized to comment.


[21-Mar-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox kept family guy though


[21-Mar-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i question what happens if they fail to sell the networks but it;s likely they just get shut down


[21-Mar-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah disney just became horrifyingly more powerful


[21-Mar-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on top of their IPs they also now control hulu


[21-Mar-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means they may justditch netflix entirely


[21-Mar-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
At netflix's peak, movie and TV piracy was at a record low


[21-Mar-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
now services are fragmented again and it's going back up


[21-Mar-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
don't bite the hand that feeds you, morons.


[21-Mar-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
streaming is becomng as complicated as cable tv became, that's not a good thing for it's future


[21-Mar-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also disney marvel just gained access to galactus


[21-Mar-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since fox had him in their assets


[21-Mar-19 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can see why disney wouldnt want fox news though


[21-Mar-19 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might make investors flee in terror


[21-Mar-19 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-70-laundering-imperial-violence-through-anodyne-foreign-policy-speak-part-i

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https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-70-laundering-imperial-violence-through-anodyne-foreign-policy-speak-part-i
Episode 70: Laundering Imperial Violence Through Anodyne Foreign P...
Barack Obama unleashes "kinetic strikes” on Libya, Hillary Clinton lobbies for "limited military coercion" in Syria, Congress passes “robust sanctions” on Iran, and Trump gives “US generals more room
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000507148947-hv0dix-t500x500.jpg


[21-Mar-19 11:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/avyjkz/virgil-texas-white-power-facebook-group-troll

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How I Infiltrated a White Pride Facebook Group and Turned It into ...
It turns out that people on Confederate Facebook are not very good at the internet.
https://images.vice.com/vice/images/articles/meta/2015/07/31/how-i-infiltrated-a-white-power-facebook-group-and-tktktk-1438366158.png?crop=0.9017182130584193xw:1xh;center,center&resize=1200:*


[21-Mar-19 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3a0df6b3837044ad93ee525d2b170213

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's slam on McCain ignores who aided vets
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's posthumous slam on Sen. John McCain flips reality on its head when it comes to who gave veterans the option to see a private doctor at public...
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[21-Mar-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant really tell what his strategy here is.
>Bash mcains legacy
>Bash mcain with a tantrum
>Take credit for everything mcain ever did
>???


[21-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Ramenoodles#4640

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[21-Mar-19 04:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah


[21-Mar-19 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
>Nursultan


[21-Mar-19 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
Yay renaming a capital for the glory not of dictator but butcher of workers


[21-Mar-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw i'm glad all those NEET timebomb channers are being replaced by more interesting people tbf


[21-Mar-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhanaozen_massacre

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Zhanaozen massacre
The Zhanaozen massacre took place in Kazakhstan's western Mangystau Region over the weekend of 16–17 December 2011. At least 14 protestors were killed by police in the oil town of Zhanaozen as they clashed with police on the country's Independence Day, with unrest spreading...


[21-Mar-19 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If dubs Bolsonaro orders some leftist protestors to be shot down and then gets excused the fuck out by Brazilian conservs


[21-Mar-19 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
Glad to see murderes enjoying the reign and power ti the full and then peacefully retiring without any punishment while the regime they build continues to thrive /s


[21-Mar-19 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
also


[21-Mar-19 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
>he's 78


[21-Mar-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
damn does taht means we still have twelve years of Vova left?


[21-Mar-19 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's vova?


[21-Mar-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
Vova


[21-Mar-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
Vladik


[21-Mar-19 05:10 PM] ononim#8141
You know the karate guy


[21-Mar-19 05:10 PM] ononim#8141
pretty big guy in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia


[21-Mar-19 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm afraid i never heard of this fella


[21-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Litrojia#0612
rides bears shirtless


[21-Mar-19 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~Isn't that, like, every Russian male with a sliver of military training~~


[21-Mar-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47642335

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Trump: I got no thanks for McCain funeral
"Not my kind of guy," the president says of the late Republican senator in his latest attack on him.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/141E1/production/_106110428_053073995.jpg


[21-Mar-19 08:08 PM] Arvid#8335
Wow so sad I'm in tears right now daddy Trump


[21-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/us/politics/trump-golan-heights-israel.html

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By EILEEN SULLIVAN and EDWARD WONG
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/us/politics/trump-golan-heights-israel.html
Trump Wants U.S. to Recognize Israeli Sovereignty Over the Golan H...
Israel won the territory from Syria in 1967 and annexed it in 1981 in a move that has never been recognized internationally.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/21/us/politics/21dc-prexy/21dc-prexy-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Mar-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
israel war with syria when?


[21-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
russia backs syria, US backs israel


[21-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
hmm, if WW3 broke out, would it be against the rules to post it in #general-discussion because it's politics?


[21-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/business/boeing-safety-features-charge.html

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By HIROKO TABUCHI and DAVID GELLES
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/business/boeing-safety-features-charge.html
Doomed Boeing Jets Lacked 2 Safety Features That Company Sold Only...
Airlines had to pay more for two optional upgrades that could warn pilots about sensor malfunctions. Boeing now plans to make one of the features standard.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/20/business/20boeing1/20boeing1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Mar-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
this right here


[21-Mar-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
is proof that neoliberalism is evil


[21-Mar-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
if they had their way, they'd nickel and dime people for every vital piece of equipment in the ship


[21-Mar-19 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/2kqqTHs397Y

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Beau of the Fifth Column
https://youtu.be/2kqqTHs397Y
Let's talk about how I learned to love MAGA hats....
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[21-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
why the fuck hasn't she been voted out https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/brexit-chaos-britain-s-theresa-may-brussels-asking-delay-n985701

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Fury follows U.K. PM May to Europe as she pleads for Brexit delay
The prime minister hopes to get a three-month extension to the Brexit process when she meets with European leaders later Thursday.
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[21-Mar-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
she's a useless laughingstock who has no idea how to get anything done


[21-Mar-19 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and she keeps throwing the exact same deal up over and over and expecting it to pass


[21-Mar-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now imagine if automotive companies forced you to pay extra for brakes and an air bag, and seatbelts


[21-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they kinda force u to pay extra for air bags


[21-Mar-19 08:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
basic models of cheap cars has only front air bags


[21-Mar-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait wat


[21-Mar-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ihave never seen a car with back seat air bags


[21-Mar-19 08:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJpdwALdg5g

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[21-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but these are not rear airbags


[21-Mar-19 08:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they called curtain airbags or something like that


[21-Mar-19 08:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[21-Mar-19 08:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://youtu.be/guGMcbGFa9g

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[21-Mar-19 08:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Ever had moments like this in your countries' Parliament/Congress?


[21-Mar-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
I'd love to see bernie suplex mcconnell sometime


[21-Mar-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me too


[21-Mar-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd love to see most people suplex mcconnell


[21-Mar-19 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
Ukrainian rada was having things like that a few years ago


[21-Mar-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_violence#United_States

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[21-Mar-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
1985 was the last time there was a fight in the US congress.


[21-Mar-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's disappointing


[21-Mar-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Curtain airbags are standard though, even in low end cars?


[21-Mar-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to see a congressional fight break out against mitch mcconnell now


[21-Mar-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just someone so fed up with his bullshit


[21-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/558371737478234122


[21-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh that was linked earlier


[21-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Glad the FAA is getting some scrutiny over this though https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/business/boeing-elaine-chao.html

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F.A.A. Approval of Boeing Jet Involved in Two Crashes Comes Under ...
A software system suspected of playing a role in two deadly crashes involving the same jet, the Boeing 737 Max, did not raise red flags during the approval process.
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[21-Mar-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/female-black-democrats-ejaculate-report-local-police-testicular-bill-of-rights-park-cannon-darshun-kendrick/

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Becca Andrews
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Black female Democrats responded to abortion legislation with a bi...
Appreciate this petty.
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[21-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"ban vasectomies and penalize doctors who perform the procedure"


[21-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
😂


[21-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That is the *best* clapback


[21-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>"require men to begin child support payments when the woman is six weeks and one day pregnant"


[21-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ban the abortion? Then pay up. 💅 👄 ✨


[22-Mar-19 12:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/bombsfall/status/1108825767914291200?s=19

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Workers should really check their privilege before forming a union because it's very problematic to do appropriation like that
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[22-Mar-19 12:45 AM] ononim#8141
🤔


[22-Mar-19 12:45 AM] ononim#8141
Definitely looks like someone who cares deeply about social justice and not a person who just wants to explot their workers while sounding woke doing so, no sire


[22-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao


[22-Mar-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
... wouldn't the senior staffers technically be the ones benefitting the most from unionization? I know that most unions tend to give the biggest/most benefits to the oldest members, regardless of performance


[22-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
it's why teacher's unions have such a hard time gaining any ground because of people opposing already established teacher's unions and their dumb tenure systems which let shitty teachers get away with pretty much everything except child abuse


[22-Mar-19 03:43 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12214017

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Christchurch mosque shootings: Website Kiwi Farms refuses to surre...
US operator of controversial website smacks down request by New Zealand police.
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[22-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
> Before he founded Kiwi Farms, Moon was sacked as an administrator for 8chan for allegedly promoting paedophilia. He is notorious for his online stalking and harassment campaigns, which have featured threats to "rape, murder and dismember" his mainly female victims.


[22-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
> In 2016, Moon was linked to a series of online threats to harm children in Florida, where he shares a home with his mother, forcing dozens of schools into lockdown.


[22-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
wow what a shitty guy


[22-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
he's right


[22-Mar-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
but he's shitty


[22-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
if it wasn't for the first amendment, the US would be able to do the same thing as NZ's trying to do


[22-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
and the EU's already been laying down the foundations for being able to do what NZ's trying to do in the future


[22-Mar-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Personally I'd like it if our free speech weren't defended on such a regular basis by people who are themselves indefensible for other reasons


[22-Mar-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which isn't to say I'm on NZ's side here, just that I'm tired of only the Assanges and Mannings of the world making headlines in the name of freedom


[22-Mar-19 04:01 AM] ononim#8141
What's the problem with Manning


[22-Mar-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Chelsea Manning?


[22-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Manning and Assange made headlines because they were political targets


[22-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
not because they were bad people


[22-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assange's rape charges are incredibly sketchy, while Manning was hit for sharing classified info (a lot of which was shit the army was hiding from people because it'd make the army look really bad)


[22-Mar-19 04:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Regardless of your stance on either of them, the point I'm trying to make is that I would like to see more defense of the first amendment come from people in power and less from whistleblowers


[22-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahhahahahhaha


[22-Mar-19 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't say I think it's *likely*


[22-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat this is like saying that the king should've proposed the magna carta


[22-Mar-19 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm just *tired*


[22-Mar-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and for the record, the guy who proposed that amendment ended up as the 4th president of the US so


[22-Mar-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though to be fair he also wasn't a fan of federalism


[22-Mar-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure he became more of one once president


[22-Mar-19 04:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, the war of 1812 does that to a guy


[22-Mar-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/21/crashed-boeing-jets-lacked-key-safety-features-that-were-add-ons.html

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Crashed jets reportedly lacked key safety features because Boeing ...
Boeing jets in Ethiopia and Indonesia lacked two safety features in their cockpits because the company charged extra to install them.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/03/18/105799827-1552923155006gettyimages-635297878.1910x1000.jpeg


[22-Mar-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When DLC can kill.


[22-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, we've got an autopilot that can malfunction and become a self-destruct if two things don't agree


[22-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
we've also got a light to say when they don't agree...except nope, you gotta pay for that


[22-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is like, if you sold someone the ability to fly as fast as Superman


[22-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not the ability to breathe high in the sky


[22-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, you didn't giv them the power to tell how high they were and when it was a good idea to come down


[22-Mar-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you say "welp, their fault"


[22-Mar-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really hope Boeing throws their *customer* under the bus here too


[22-Mar-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I don't mean the ones in ethiopia or indonesia


[22-Mar-19 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111484260/judith-collins-tells-nra-to-bugger-off-over-new-zealand-gun-reform

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Judith Collins tells US lobby group NRA to 'bugger off' over New Z...
Former police minister Judith Collins tells the NRA to "bugger off" as NZ prepares to introduce sweeping gun law reforms.
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[22-Mar-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/21/705536383/wisconsin-governors-powers-restored-after-restricted-by-lame-duck

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Judge Restores Wisconsin Governor's Powers, Strikes Down GOP Laws
A Wisconsin county judge ruled Thursday that laws passed in December by Republicans during a lame-duck session to limit the power of incoming Democratic Gov. Tony Evers are unconstitutional.
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[22-Mar-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-us-ambassador-richard-grenell-should-be-expelled-says-fdp-deputy-leader/a-47975156

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Germany: US ambassador Richard Grenell should be expelled, says FD...
US Ambassador Richard Grenell is acting like "a high commissioner of an occupying power," the deputy leader of the Free Democrats (FDP) has said. Grenell has also drawn rebuffs from Germany's two governing parties.
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[22-Mar-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Wolfgang Kubicki, the deputy chairman of the opposition Free Democrats (FDP), said Richard Grenell's repeated interference in German sovereignty should prompt Foreign Minister Heiko Maas to immediately declare Grenell persona non grata.

 "Any US diplomat who acts like a high commissioner of an occupying power must learn that our tolerance also knows its limits," said Kubicki, who is also one of five deputy speakers of Germany's Bundestag parliament.


[22-Mar-19 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938

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[22-Mar-19 06:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-03-22/islamic-state-in-syria-eliminated-shanahan-told-trump#click=https://t.co/yLzygaXY4e


[22-Mar-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX0ozxrZlEQ

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[22-Mar-19 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
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[22-Mar-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs

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The Alt-Right Playbook: Always a Bigger Fish
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[22-Mar-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2019-03-22/trump-says-he-did-not-know-about-kushners-whatsapp-messaging


[22-Mar-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
I hope once the republican party finally kills itself that we can get back to not doing the whole political correctness bullshit


[22-Mar-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/22/robert-mueller-report-president-trump-russia-election-investigation/2213214002/

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Special counsel Robert Mueller delivers report marking end of inve...
Special counsel Robert Mueller has delivered his report, signaling the end of an investigation that has shadowed President Trump's first two years.
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[22-Mar-19 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/world/europe/britain-asylum-seeker-christianity.html

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Rejecting Asylum Claim, U.K. Quotes Bible to Say Christianity Is N...
An Iranian asylum seeker said he converted from Islam to Christianity because it was a “peaceful” religion. The Home Office used Bible verses about vengeance as a basis to deny the claim.
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[22-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Mikey#7286
:thunk:


[22-Mar-19 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
this is how you actively try to commit suicide in the culture war


[22-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
why are the US and UK so shitty at culture


[22-Mar-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-has-to-pay-journalist-43000-after-hiding-net-neutrality-records/

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FCC has to pay journalist $43,000 after hiding net neutrality records
FCC pays journalist's legal fees after failing to comply with records request.
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[22-Mar-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Mueller Report is done


[22-Mar-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Could be out before end of weekend


[22-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
UK Home Office is racism with extra steps.


[22-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never really about religion, or culture, or terrorism


[22-Mar-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's always been about keeping out brown people.


[22-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol reminds me even how Europhilic/Remainers hated Not Tonight @Nebbie


[22-Mar-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Couldn't get an unbiased review from a UK reviewer


[22-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/flight-attendant-daca-gets-airline-s-ok-fly-mexico-then-n986351

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Flight attendant with DACA says she got airline's OK to fly to Mex...
The flight attendant put Mexico and Canada on her “no fly” list “very intentionally” when she was hired by Mesa Airlines, her husband said.
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[22-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what you'd do if you wanted to harass people with DACA status


[22-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
giv them false info about what's okay


[22-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wtf


[22-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why does marrying a US citizen not immediately trump DACA?


[22-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why isn't it a "front of line to be a citizen" thing?


[22-Mar-19 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I want you to word-associate "marriage" and "republicans" and tell me what you think the answer is


[22-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure a lot of Republicans have mail order brides


[22-Mar-19 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's the same reason why they're up in arms over pregnant women trying to cross the border so their babies will have US citizenship


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to file paperwork


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know that


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
which Republican-appointed officials conveniently throw in the garbage.


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But you should be safe from anything


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you fukking get it?


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way the system is *right now*


[22-Mar-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is no safety until you get a stamp on a form saying you are a citizen


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
NOTHING you do matters outside of that


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could be a SENATOR married to ANOTHER SENATOR


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
(if some state allows non-citizens to get elected)


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and ICE could show up without a warrant


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
detain you indefinitely without counsel


[22-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
strip you naked and beat you


[22-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then throw you in Mexico next to the person that said on Facebook twice a day every day for twenty years they will shoot you


[22-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then every Republican starts clapping.


[22-Mar-19 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is not an exaggeration


[22-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, some of that's *outright illegal*


[22-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
but


[22-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
who's going to stop them?


[22-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was a SCOTUS ruling this week


[22-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
that said


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
essentially that a law is unconstitutional BUT


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Since the ACLU didn't ask whether it was, we're going to continue the unconstitutional behavior, but now allow it in the most extreme form


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I swear the GOP operates like a slum gang, the way everyone's got to pull stupid stunts to prove they're a real G to all the other dumb Gs at the expense of *everything*, their families, neighborhoods, and wellbeing - everything, just to get street cred


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
whereas before there were questions about where the line was


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The constitution didn't say where the line was


[22-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
it said this shit shouldn't exist


[22-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
so SCOTUS said, well, this shouldn't exist, but we won't draw a line, so get fukked.


[22-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat did you even watch the bigger fish vid?


[22-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's exactly how Conservatives operate.


[22-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the entire point of their side of the ideological divide.


[22-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make it to the top by any means necessary and get rid of anyone that challenges your idea of the hierarchy.


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oppressing gay people and blakks isn't even always about hating them


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wasn't claiming to make any fascinating new insight other than to point out that rich white folks be like poor minority folks


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but uh


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about making sure your straight white friends and you by extension stay on top


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All that stuff in VA blew over huh


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/world/europe/spain-franco-far-right-vox.html?fbclid=IwAR00km2CSIquEGM_8oH9PU91v1y6Yl1FZvJArf5F1Nck3FJ_KiP4QSWsCB4

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By PATRICK KINGSLEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/world/europe/spain-franco-far-right-vox.html?fbclid=IwAR00km2CSIquEGM_8oH9PU91v1y6Yl1FZvJArf5F1Nck3FJ_KiP4QSWsCB4
A Bar for Spain’s Radical Right, Run by a Chinese Immigrant
Franco died in 1975, but the dictator’s spirit lives on for a new generation at Bar Oliva in Madrid.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/18/world/17Franco-dispatch1-promo/17Franco-dispatch1-promo-facebookJumbo-v4.jpg


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what happened in VA?


[22-Mar-19 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```His 4-year-old son, meanwhile, is named Franco-Xi.```


[22-Mar-19 10:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WHAT TIMELINE EVEN IS THIS


[22-Mar-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
the governor blackface shit


[22-Mar-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
tldr: who gives a fuck


[22-Mar-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy who blackfaced as a teenager for halloween?


[22-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[22-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, the head of the socialist governments census and statistics agency openly calls the center, center right, and right wing parties of Spain nazis


[22-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
turns out that going after people for stupid shit they did decades ago is stupid


[22-Mar-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[22-Mar-19 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Franco-Xi" sounds like the dragonball fusion of dictators i would least want for the planet


[22-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just fascists or fachas or whatever, but straight up NSDAP


[22-Mar-19 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, what are the Spaniards even drinking by this point


[22-Mar-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this timeline is a fucking mess


[22-Mar-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the spaniards are probably drinking lead infused water at this point


[22-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop being retarded


[22-Mar-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was referencing pollution problems but ok


[22-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And why would you be doing that


[22-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Francisco Franco is still dead


[22-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain, and most of europe, has been extremely anal about health and safety for ages


[22-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/05/inenglish/1544008632_514634.html

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https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/05/inenglish/1544008632_514634.html
15 million Spaniards are breathing air the EU considers polluted
More than half of Spain is wreathed in air containing excessive levels of particulate matter, nitrogen dioxide and ozone
https://ep00.epimg.net/sociedad/imagenes/2018/11/02/actualidad/1541163386_741132_1542485246_rrss_normal.jpg


[22-Mar-19 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was a joke but ok


[22-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Anal safety" is what I got from that


[22-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I'm pretty sure that those same standards say I'm being subjected to inhumane torture for living in Berlin, Crow


[22-Mar-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well fair enough, I didnt know this.


[22-Mar-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/22/anti-muslim-hate-crimes-soar-in-uk-after-christchurch-shootings

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/22/anti-muslim-hate-crimes-soar-in-uk-after-christchurch-shootings
Anti-Muslim hate crimes soar in UK after Christchurch shootings
Exclusive: rise in number of incidents related to NZ attacks alarms community groups
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/9b8340954b7eba5944fb9a93296907131cdb93bb/0_117_3500_2100/master/3500.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=9fefda6a8a000978ac0f95b869e48e75


[22-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As an aside, Paradox needs to decide if they want to hardcode one side of the Spanish Civil War winning or not


[22-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've been seeing the Republicans win more often


[22-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Republicans should have won


[22-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they were too busy doing purges and fighting themselves


[22-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They gave Alf Landon a portrait


[22-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
After people memed them too hard


[22-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47671715

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47671715
Special counsel ends Russia investigation
The long-awaited report on alleged Russian election meddling has been submitted to the justice department.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/7638/production/_106146203_tv053116267.jpg


[22-Mar-19 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And now we wait


[22-Mar-19 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
for the record, I'm still impressed with the speed of the special counsel considering the number of fish they caught in their net


[22-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He is methodical.


[22-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't think they'll find anything.


[22-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They could've found a truck full of dead 12yo hookers in Trump's garage covered in his spooge


[22-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Info about it wouldn't get past a few couple of eyes


[22-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything for the last 30 years is "too big to fail"


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking they are going with more sandbox aprach now afaik so expect it just to flaculate between "nationalist win most of the time" and "republicans win most of the time" in between patches and expansions


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
also


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
>focus tree when


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bhutan focus tree when


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Uruguay


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
They really should fucking do it already, moders manage to that with multiple routh for each side


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BHUTAN GANG


[22-Mar-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
Also, FInland really needs a tree


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
THUNDER DRAGON WILL RISE AGIN


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait fucking Finland doesn't have one


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
yes


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
iirc


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
it didn't have one before man the guns


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
and there was nothing about it getting it there


[22-Mar-19 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
Only UK and US rework plus Mexico and Netherlands


[22-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
US needed a rework bad


[22-Mar-19 11:10 PM] ononim#8141
I wonder who will get Rework first, Italy or the soviets


[22-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll admit I watch the AI play most of the time


[22-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just to watch the crazy shit


[22-Mar-19 11:11 PM] ononim#8141
okay drew durnill


[22-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No u


[22-Mar-19 11:11 PM] ononim#8141
How dare you, I am not californian


[22-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Drew is fun to watch tho


[22-Mar-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
Glorious Roman twink


[22-Mar-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
I should catch up on his videos


[22-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
what game is this?


[22-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hearts of Iron 4


[22-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WW2 4x game from paradox


[22-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I still can't get over how Germany+Fascist Romania can pull off Barbarossa


[22-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And how fucked the latter gets post war


[22-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
oh


[22-Mar-19 11:19 PM] ononim#8141
It's not really 4x tbh


[22-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I know about HoI, used to link a few videos from a dude who would re-create historical boundaries for various countries' "glory days"


[22-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
or insane stuff like taking over the world with a single country


[22-Mar-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
Taueror?


[22-Mar-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
edit:fixed typo


[22-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[22-Mar-19 11:21 PM] ononim#8141
he's very gamey but his vids are good that even filthy roleplayers such as I enjoy them


[22-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just use paratroopers


[22-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.lifenews.com/2017/06/06/oregon-senate-committee-passes-bill-to-allow-starving-mentally-ill-patients-to-death/

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https://www.lifenews.com/2017/06/06/oregon-senate-committee-passes-bill-to-allow-starving-mentally-ill-patients-to-death/
Oregon Senate Committee Passes Bill to Allow Starving Mentally Ill...
Oregon Senate Committee Passes Bill to Allow Starving Mentally Ill Patients to Death
https://www.lifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/elderlypatient31.jpg


[22-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-oregon-pushing-to-give-patients-with-degenerative-diseases-the-right-to-die/2018/03/11/3b6a2362-230e-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html


[22-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious to see how propaganda reactionary sites wildly misinterpret things


[22-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
>Relatively modest drives are afoot in Washington state and California, where organizations have launched education campaigns on how people can fill out instructions for future caregivers to withhold food and drink, thereby carrying out an option that is legal to anybody: death by starvation and dehydration. (It is often referred to as the “voluntarily stopping eating and drinking” method.)


[22-Mar-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah well my bad for falling for such terrible propaganda


[22-Mar-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i stand corrected


[23-Mar-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-news/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-news/
Life News - Media Bias/Fact Check
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), ...
https://i0.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/default-thumb.jpg?fit=600%2C326&ssl=1


[23-Mar-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
>In general, all stories on LifeNews.com favors a far right Christian perspective and routinely denigrate liberal ideology.


[23-Mar-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[23-Mar-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/opinion/voting-rights-florida.html

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By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/opinion/voting-rights-florida.html
Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/22/opinion/22florida/22florida-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Mar-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
More voter suppression


[23-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think a trukk full of dead 12yo hookers covered in Trump's cum would at least make it to Mueller and might be enuff to get Republicans to impeach. It's dicey tho. Would need some photos and witnesses and McConnell to hav a ocnsience.


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, Florida


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the complete bullshit argument is


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to hav *served your sentence*, as is I think the wording used in the voter referendum to giv felons voting rights


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to pay everything off too


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but see, local courts impose fines for all sorts of nonsense, cause the only guaranteed funding from the state is on the court system, so even if it loses money overall, it's better to use it to do things than any other part of the local gov't.


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
they also will loan you money for bail


[23-Mar-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
then put you in jail for not paying off the loan later, cause debtor's prisons totally are a thing that's okay by the constitution.


[23-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this isn't just to stop felons from voting after the sentence is over, @byte[]


[23-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is to catch people who never committed a crime to begin with


[23-Mar-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've figured out a way to get even the blakk or white trash people who manage to avoid felony charges.


[23-Mar-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[23-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
ROFL @Nebbie, I sent a message to my mom about that article, but didn't mention who was proposing it at first


[23-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
she said "who proposed that piece of shit?"


[23-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
then I said "some republican dude", and she immediately responded "oh, well then it can't actually be that bad"


[23-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should've said Democrats


[23-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
played it up big


[23-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
then get her to really read into it


[23-Mar-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
she loves to play up the whole "democrats/leftists/socialists/communists are so monolithic and always in lockstep with each other"


[23-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
it was almost disturbing to see the tone change as soon as I mentioned it was proposed by a republican


[23-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything restricting felons who have served their sentence is nonsense


[23-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like being judged for a debt that you have paid off


[23-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel like making it so that felons can't vote to begin with is a little wrong


[23-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
I get the whole "excommunicated from society" thing


[23-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
you shouldn't be excommunicated after you've done your time though


[23-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
it just maeks them drop further out of society


[23-Mar-19 02:22 AM] Honahue#0656
the fact that employers can discriminate against felons also leads to problems. if an exfelon can't find legitimate work than what choice do they have than to resort to crime.


[23-Mar-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, I'm talking about while serving time


[23-Mar-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
there are different arguments to be made that prison in general isn't effective


[23-Mar-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not a deterrent and it doesn't rehabilitate


[23-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's for vengeance


[23-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives love vengeance


[23-Mar-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But conservatives also like people owning guns


[23-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
tbh people in general love vengeance


[23-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
there's just some people who are more willing to give rehabilitation a try after vengeance has been exacted


[23-Mar-19 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think vengeance solves anything


[23-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
few people actually think that vengeance solves anything


[23-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
but damn does it feel good to see a bad guy get his comeuppance


[23-Mar-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
you think leftists will want to be lenient on trump if he's convicted of crimes against the US?


[23-Mar-19 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Anecdote but my dad's a conservative and he definitely think retributive punishment is effective


[23-Mar-19 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Or that beating kids makes better adults


[23-Mar-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
oh, sorry I crossed over the line between the actual difference between being socially conservative and socially liberal


[23-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
most humans love vengeance, but only about half thinks that vengeance in and of itself solves the problem


[23-Mar-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I like movie and game vengeance I'm not huge on real world vengeance


[23-Mar-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-abruptly-reverses-treasury-s-north-korea-related-sanctions-chinese-n986376

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-abruptly-reverses-treasury-s-north-korea-related-sanctions-chinese-n986376
Trump tweet on North Korea sanctions sparks hours of confusion
Hours after the tweet, a senior administration official told NBC News that the president had been referring to a not-yet-announced major new round of sanctions.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_12/2768976/ss-190228-trump-kim-summit-mn-0855_58a922c91dd4c81c1021dd5beb1e8861.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[23-Mar-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also trump reversed sanctions just imposed on north korea


[23-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
>In a statement released after Trump's tweet, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders declined to disabuse anyone of that notion — simply attributing his decision to his affinity for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un — and the National Security Council press office refused when asked to clarify whether Trump was referring to the shipping companies.


[23-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
>his affinity for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un


[23-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
>his affinity


[23-Mar-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
sarah huckabee sanders confirms trump's aspirations to become dictator of the US


[23-Mar-19 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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😂 

[23-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[23-Mar-19 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I reckon this is in direct response to Schumer's warning to Barr


[23-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man reading the shit Maher got for his recent controversy


[23-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he made a point and made people upset because he's right


[23-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election

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Report from the Special Counsel Investigation into Russian Interfe...
Report from the Special Counsel Investigation into Russian Interference During and Before the 2016 Presidential Election
https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/document/402800029/original/543fa74062/1553294342?v=1


[23-Mar-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well damn


[23-Mar-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
69 pages


[23-Mar-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
What a meme


[23-Mar-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/a8c5wmeOL9o

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Dylancliff111
https://youtu.be/a8c5wmeOL9o
Noice.
The one and only Original! Noice. Check out my new 4th year Anniversary of Noice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljCzrqY97nc A little birthday present I mad...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/a8c5wmeOL9o/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Mar-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
_reeealy guud_


[23-Mar-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
look out the window


[23-Mar-19 07:28 AM] Mikey#7286
there's a window


[23-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/IMoGdZLIRn8

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huma
https://youtu.be/IMoGdZLIRn8
Hot food vocoded to the piano dub
why Original piano dub: https://youtu.be/yuXRmZof8kw
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IMoGdZLIRn8/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They used to string me up from the wall bars _fwip_


[23-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm probably still there


[23-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_so spooky_


[23-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[23-Mar-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, @Honahue https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-uighur-muslim-china-refugees-camps-asylum-seekers-a8832191.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-uighur-muslim-china-refugees-camps-asylum-seekers-a8832191.html
Sweden grants refugee status to China's Uighur Muslims, prompting ...
Muslims deported to Xinjiang face detainment in re-education camps where inmates have allegedly been tortured
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/03/20/16/china-camp.jpg


[23-Mar-19 08:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
K


[23-Mar-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/2186263/chinese-students-canada-report-uygur-activists-talk-consulate

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Chinese students in Canada report Uygur activist’s talk to consulate
Your source for credible news and authoritative insights from Hong Kong, China and the world.
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[23-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-white-house-shop-store-merchandise-us-president-a8835361.html

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Trump profiting from presidency by selling White House-branded mer...
Sale of items branded 'bizarre and wrong' by government ethics expert
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[23-Mar-19 11:05 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47678157

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Fall of Islamic State 'caliphate' announced
US-backed forces say IS is defeated in its last stronghold, but the group remains a major threat.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p074d52z.jpg


[23-Mar-19 11:05 AM] ononim#8141
🦀 🦀 🦀 
ISIS IS DEAD
🦀 🦀 🦀


[23-Mar-19 11:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now give Syria to Rojava


[23-Mar-19 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love how people have this thought that mueller handing it in on a friday means he found nothing because "Friday is the day you hand stuff in you dont want being talked about on national news"


[23-Mar-19 03:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also that it means that there won't be any more legal action taken...somehow?


[23-Mar-19 03:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, regardless of whether or not impeachment happens, there are still a lot of indictments that have yet to go to trial or receive sentencing


[23-Mar-19 03:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's the other thing - *ooh, mueller didn't find anything on Trump lol just his staff* - as if it were his job to indict Trump, like that was a thing that could happen


[23-Mar-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of that report is probably classified shit


[23-Mar-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing really reported on during the investigation were the trials that already happened


[23-Mar-19 03:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm hoping we do get to see as much as we can with that in mind; seeing Trump's written response to Mueller's questions will be fantastic


[23-Mar-19 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/b4eseq/christchurch_mosque_shooters_manifesto_deemed/

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r/worldnews - Christchurch mosque shooter's manifesto deemed objec...
20,450 votes and 7,027 comments so far on Reddit
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[23-Mar-19 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
NZ continues to do stupid shit


[23-Mar-19 04:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[23-Mar-19 04:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik it's no different than if you went to /pol/ and hit "show me a random post" 100 times


[23-Mar-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
not really


[23-Mar-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm reading it now


[23-Mar-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not entirely a shitpost


[23-Mar-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
guy's insane though


[23-Mar-19 04:28 PM] byte[]#2610
and there are definitely shitposty bits

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[23-Mar-19 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
real critique of neoliberalism


[23-Mar-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
real critique of unchecked population growth, which seems to be directed entirely at developing nations


[23-Mar-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
real critique of the role of hierarchy in society


[23-Mar-19 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, too bad he just wants the hierarchy to be shuffled around to place white men on top (implying that isn't it already)


[23-Mar-19 04:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, i wouldn't hold such an indistinct dumbass in such high regard


[23-Mar-19 04:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's just insane


[23-Mar-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying I hold him in any regard


[23-Mar-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
just that his "manifesto" isn't entirely a shitpost


[23-Mar-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
real critique of underpaid immigrant labor


[23-Mar-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
and that's the end


[23-Mar-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
the rest is garbage


[23-Mar-19 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, if he did care for the underpaid immigrants, he wouldn't go up to a religious congregation of theirs and cause a traumatic massacre


[23-Mar-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
that wasn't his point


[23-Mar-19 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What was it, then?


[23-Mar-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
his point was that they shouldn't be here because they are destroying local economies by subverting wage laws


[23-Mar-19 04:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it true tho


[23-Mar-19 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, i'll just abhor any sort of attempt at legitimizing this idiot's genocidal discourse. He wants us to think he's smart or that his words make sense, and i don't think we should believe him.


[23-Mar-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
the truth is that no local wanted those jobs anyway, but that's all I personally know


[23-Mar-19 04:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think your first mistake was in thinking that insightful political discourse would spontaneously emerge from this situation


[23-Mar-19 04:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *really* don't think that was his intent, either


[23-Mar-19 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
>unchecked population growth


[23-Mar-19 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
spook


[23-Mar-19 04:58 PM] ononim#8141
The "look, these browns are breeding like animals, soon they will not only owerhelm us but the planet itself!"


[23-Mar-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh they'd have an easier time overwhelming their own country's natural resources


[23-Mar-19 04:59 PM] ononim#8141
The "western world" had same big rates in past centuries and with evolution in the society they died down to today rates


[23-Mar-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, population goes through cycles


[23-Mar-19 05:00 PM] ononim#8141
and afaik some of these "~~brown~~ thirid world countries that breed to much" countries are already showing the sign of turning into "developed" demographic model


[23-Mar-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the extremely populated areasd also tend to have a better developed sense of community as well, so instead of tearing eachother appart they build upwards through eachother


[23-Mar-19 05:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hotel-trump-store-white-house-ethics_n_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2

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Trump Has Slapped His Brand On Images Of The White House To Sell A...
President blurs the line again between his business and government.
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[23-Mar-19 05:02 PM] ononim#8141
~~I also would like to remind how billionares waste far more recources than an average "westerner", let alone people from developed countries and I am not sure but feel that's true even if you take into the account resources taken by ALL of poor strata of developing nations versus billionaires~~


[23-Mar-19 05:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not the onion?!


[23-Mar-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/twist-mnight-shamalan-what-gif-6054790

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[23-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How many billionaires do you know?


[23-Mar-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point i shoudl rephrase


[23-Mar-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is bezos a trillionaire?


[23-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[23-Mar-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are more billionaires than it hought there were...


[23-Mar-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2,208 billionaires


[23-Mar-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck it i proved my own point wrong


[23-Mar-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyway, Trump has been selling trump brand whitehouse  memorabillia since he started being president. There was a controversy when the first ones started popping up but it faded


[23-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Population growth is only still high cause a lot of places hav the food to grow but not the modern education and health services to do contraception well


[23-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus the culture of "infant mortality is really high and I need at least one of these kids to take care of me when I'm old" takes a few generations to go away


[23-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dat flagrant enoulment clause violation up there


[23-Mar-19 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not emolument clause, but it does edge towards conflict of interest


[23-Mar-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant help but wonder how many of his "summits" have actually been him trying to sell a new trump tower to the country of his visit


[23-Mar-19 06:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
emolument clause would be Trump receiving gifts, yeah


[23-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah  RI


[23-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://khn.org/news/gofundme-ceo-gigantic-gaps-in-health-system-showing-up-in-crowdfunding/

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GoFundMe CEO: ‘Gigantic Gaps’ In Health System Showing Up In C...
Fundraising for medical expenses leads this crowdfunding website and, according to its chief executive, highlights a deep national need to address the high costs of health care.
https://kaiserhealthnews.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/go-fund-me-qa.jpg?w=1200


[23-Mar-19 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when crowdfunding was for a new minimalist wallet or launching a coffee shop?


[23-Mar-19 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pepperidge farm remembers


[23-Mar-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes i do


[23-Mar-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it;s used to raise legal fees and health care aid


[23-Mar-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives *want* crowdfunding to be required for health services


[23-Mar-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It fits their worldview of benevolent rich white overloards who occasionally allow the underlings a chance to liv


[23-Mar-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
because it means that society as a whole doesn't collectively pay for it


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
because that would be communism


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
and communism is bad


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire worldview is that healthcare is something you earn or *generously* given, not a right.


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, suddenly it's soapboxing at a college campus and it's a right


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
not something you earn or are just given


[23-Mar-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
because conservative ideology isn't actually internally consistent


[23-Mar-19 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen a lot of alt right people talk about Yang positively


[23-Mar-19 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And not in a "let's sabotage Dems" way


[23-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess it comes from the origins of being a part of the alt right, hating yourself and feeling apart from society


[23-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean that will still happen with Yang, but you get $12000 for body pillows or something


[23-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who is Yang?


[23-Mar-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus his circumcision stance really could get them talking


[23-Mar-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Andrew Yang


[23-Mar-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discount Democratic Presidential Candidate #14, huh


[23-Mar-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
UBI tho


[23-Mar-19 07:00 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgO57AzjQ

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The Jimmy Dore Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPgO57AzjQ
Russiagate Fizzles Out As Mueller Ends Investigation
Become a Patron/Premium Member: https://www.patreon.com/jimmydore & http://bit.ly/JDPremium Schedule of Live Shows: http://bit.ly/2gRqoyL Check out our Merch...
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[23-Mar-19 07:00 PM] moonatik#3676
also >UBI


[23-Mar-19 07:00 PM] moonatik#3676
:eww:


[23-Mar-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do we have details on it or is this just another "He handed in the report so he found nothing" kinda things?


[23-Mar-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No deets yet


[23-Mar-19 07:01 PM] moonatik#3676
the investigation is over and not a single american has been indicted


[23-Mar-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yet


[23-Mar-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his part was inveestigation, the court procedings come next


[23-Mar-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
UBI could maybe work


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It couldn't be for everyone just yet


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] moonatik#3676
UBI is a plaster for a gangrenous wound


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] moonatik#3676
(or band aid)


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pay your fucking workers more


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pay your workers and give them a lot of benefits or consumers should not stand for it


[23-Mar-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shoudl be working to live not living to work


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] moonatik#3676
what will help workers is higher wages and better conditions, and massive unionisation to ensure that those rights remain


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We could just be living


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't care if a burger is $6 instead of $3


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And working for personal satisfaction


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give people fucking higher wages


[23-Mar-19 07:03 PM] moonatik#3676
that would be a wonderful world teaspoon but we're not at that point in society yet


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] moonatik#3676
i damn hope that we eventually reach a point where that's feasible, technologically, socially, etc.


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
we're at the point where we can start implementing it


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans are basically making work pointless as you get nothing out of it in their perfect world


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
we were on track for a 4-day work week back in the 70's


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
then the fucking neoliberals stepped in


[23-Mar-19 07:04 PM] moonatik#3676
we can start implementing it through reforms to the workplace such as what i've mentioned


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] moonatik#3676
organising labour is the key


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Before a workless society happens


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] moonatik#3676
plus the social conditions will need to evolve too


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We basically need people to stop giving a shit if people who, freed from work, choose to do nothing but smoke weed and play video games all day


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with organizing labor is everytime we try, the grand old p[arty steps in and fucks it all up


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of making things or helping people


[23-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
what is this "jimmy dore show" thing


[23-Mar-19 07:06 PM] moonatik#3676
a comedian started a political commentary show


[23-Mar-19 07:06 PM] moonatik#3676
it turned out okay


[23-Mar-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
the title of the video sounds like standard conservative head burying


[23-Mar-19 07:06 PM] moonatik#3676
he's a borderline socialist


[23-Mar-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing has fizzled, phase 1 just ended


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_32eYwyiY

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Bat'ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_32eYwyiY
/OURGUY/ STRIKES AGAIN!
The absolute mad man.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/j7_32eYwyiY/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] moonatik#3676
this is him in an epic meemay


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] moonatik#3676
Jimmy "I want the youth radicalized and the rich euthanized" Dore


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] moonatik#3676
Jimmy "Arm the Poor for The Proletarian War" Dore


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] moonatik#3676
Jimmy "Beating Mao's High Score" Dore


[23-Mar-19 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, "he only gives a fuck about himself because he's a fuckin' maniac" describes like 90% of humanity


[23-Mar-19 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
bezos isn't special


[23-Mar-19 07:08 PM] moonatik#3676
Jimmy "red revolution is the only solution" Dore


[23-Mar-19 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
nothing will beat mike "deus volt" pence


[23-Mar-19 07:09 PM] moonatik#3676
true


[23-Mar-19 07:09 PM] moonatik#3676
sadly the right is winning the great meme war


[23-Mar-19 07:09 PM] moonatik#3676
we need to fight stronger


[23-Mar-19 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
meems


[23-Mar-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Late night thought


[23-Mar-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If life begins at conception, shouldn't child support


[23-Mar-19 07:11 PM] moonatik#3676
>tfw the nazis think the war is won because it's been going well for them in the first couple years

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[23-Mar-19 07:13 PM] moonatik#3676
actually this is a better pic

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[23-Mar-19 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
tbh trump's boomer base are incredibly bad at memes


[23-Mar-19 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
@moonatik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqqTHs397Y

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Beau of the Fifth Column
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqqTHs397Y
Let's talk about how I learned to love MAGA hats....
Check out the TFC store. Stickers, mugs, hoodies, shirts, etc. Make sure to hover over the heart icon on the design to see where money is being donated. http...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2kqqTHs397Y/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Mar-19 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
and the younger ones are learning the effects of maga hats


[23-Mar-19 07:22 PM] moonatik#3676
oh yeah this https://mashable.com/article/maga-trump-supporters-safe-space-63red-yelp/?europe=true

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Trump fans look for safe spaces with an app avoiding 'MAGAphobic' ...
The app 63red Safe asks users if businesses post about politics on social media or allow customers to carry weapons.
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[23-Mar-19 07:23 PM] moonatik#3676
"daddy trump a man looked at my maga hat funny please invite me to the white house so we can pretend to care about the 1st amendment"


[23-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
@moonatik, the funniest part about that is that a french software security reviewer contacted the guy to tell him that his app was ultra insecure (his admin credentials were hardcoded into the app and easily accessible), and instead of fixing the problem, he just threatened to contact the FBI for "hacking"


[23-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
but only after the french security guy released the flaw publicly on twitter (which is the norm for serious security flaws)


[23-Mar-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No report today


[23-Mar-19 07:54 PM] RYDE#8862
Let's bide our time.


[23-Mar-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
things will come in time


[23-Mar-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
like ur mom


[23-Mar-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and ur mom


[23-Mar-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everyone;s mom


[23-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Your mom is like Communism


[23-Mar-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone gets their share


[23-Mar-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
communist mom lines


[23-Mar-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/23/fren-m23.html?fbclid=IwAR27LAVwnPcKMBMqUoTF6svejg020p62NzQXl364TdWB1TEEzSKxohOq_FM

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French army receives authorization to shoot “yellow vest” prot...
General Bruno Le Ray announced that the rules of engagement for soldiers sent today against the “yellow vests” allow them to “go as far as opening fire.”
https://www.wsws.org/asset/594db6c4-55aa-400d-9e5c-a30a3cd2f689/image.jpg


[23-Mar-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
COME ON


[23-Mar-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
UPRISING INTENSIFY


[23-Mar-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
MILITARY DEFECTION PLEASE?


[23-Mar-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXnFU32Zcs

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Anthems Therapy2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXnFU32Zcs
National Anthem of the Paris Commune (1871) ‒ “La Marseillaise...
Anthems Therapy © Restored material - old format - Stereo
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PkXnFU32Zcs/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Mar-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
News post was posted to my feed with the added commentary: "Hey, it worked just fine for Lafayette. What could possibly go wrong?"


[23-Mar-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Lafayette was a cop and ACAB"


[23-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/23/trump-big-oil-industry-influence-investigation-zinke-226106

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Recording Reveals Oil Industry Execs Laughing at Trump Access
The tape of a private meeting was made shortly after the lawyer for an influential industry group was tapped for a high-level post at the Department of the Interior.
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[23-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
>As IPAA vice president Jeff Eshelman told the group, it had seemed as though the Obama administration and environmental groups had put together “their target list of everything that they wanted done to shut down the oil and gas industry.” But now, the oil executives were almost giddy at the prospect of high-level executive branch access of the sort they hadn’t enjoyed since Dick Cheney, a fellow oilman, was vice president.


[23-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zinke was the worst of this


[23-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Yuri#4154

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[23-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if you're immature, you can't consent, but you can't abort.


[23-Mar-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's almost as if they don't want girls making any decisions.


[23-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, if feminists from the 19th century could see the world now...


[23-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like there won't be charities based in non crappy states to fly women to states to get them


[23-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually you'll see states refuse to let the planes land or take off


[23-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also again


[23-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If life begins at conception so should child support


[23-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what, 6-8 months of child support you could be getting.


[23-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way to stop this is with businesses.


[23-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell businesses to pull out of states with crazy abortion laws.


[23-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And hav the ones that stay offer charity rides to other states to get abortions.


[23-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those buses are gonna get torched.


[24-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
that assumes they can get time and money to get to a bus too


[24-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
now the abortion is an all day multiday event they got to get off work


[24-Mar-19 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so chaotic good idea here - what if someone built an abortion clinic *on* the bus and played it like a humanitarian mission trip to the oppressive land of Florida? Even if they get stopped *because of course they'd get stopped, it'd be illegal in so many ways now* it'd make national headlines


[24-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know if you can do it medically safe on a bus.


[24-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean they have those eye surgery airplanes


[24-Mar-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ambulances exist, but it's meme-ier if it's a bus


[24-Mar-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a lot of states, they require abortion clinics to follow the same requirements as hospital surgical wards


[24-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
9 foot wide hallways


[24-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Secretary has to hav license to do hospital admittance.


[24-Mar-19 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well then just make a 9-foot section in the middle of the bus the "hallway"


[24-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said licensing consists essentially of "Would you never work in an abortion clinic?"


[24-Mar-19 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And anyhow, the whole point isn't to actually perform abortions, it's to make a funny headline when everyone gets arrested


[24-Mar-19 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's time to take our memes back


[24-Mar-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
bonus points if you can staff the bus with right-wing activists who think they're doing a Dr. Death performance piece but have the actual spokesperson spin the whole thing left


[24-Mar-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/cX-r5ulpoQQ

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Cities: Skylines | Franklin, Episode 10: Law & Order
Ha! I told you it'd be back Donate to Chelsea Manning's legal fund: https://couragetoresist.org/free-chelsea-manning-again/ Donate to victims of the Christch...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cX-r5ulpoQQ/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Mar-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
URBAN POLITICS TIME


[24-Mar-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
TIME TO EAT


[24-Mar-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
lawl and odor


[24-Mar-19 06:26 AM] Denk#5891
Oh man today is the thailand elections I hope this time we won't have another coup


[24-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/23/one-million-march-against-brexit-tories-plan-oust-may

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One million join march against Brexit as Tories plan to oust May
Organisers hail UK’s ‘biggest-ever demo’, while Tom Watson leads calls for fresh referendum
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[24-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
>In one of the biggest demonstrations in British history, a crowd estimated at over one million people yesterday marched peacefully through central London to demand that MPs grant them a fresh referendum on Brexit.


[24-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47678763

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Million joined Brexit protest, organisers say
"Put it to the People" placards and banners spell out protesters' demand for a say on the Brexit deal.
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[24-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
hopefully may's finally fucked


[24-Mar-19 06:39 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/gillibrand-officially-launches-2020-bid-calls-trump-coward-n986736

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Gillibrand officially launches 2020 bid, calls Trump a 'coward'
"I’m proud to have stood up to Donald Trump more than anyone else in the Senate," Gillibrand said.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_12/2797226/190324-kirsten-gillibrand-cs-1019a_8e80bacb4cc5a48476e7356b883b88a6.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-Mar-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just saw this on tv


[24-Mar-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though aside from her calling trump a coward i don;t know enough about her to really throw my support into the ring


[24-Mar-19 07:03 PM] Litrojia#0612
not a fan of Gillibrand


[24-Mar-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know nothing about her


[24-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
seems to be running heavily on identity politics, promised not to run for president when running for senate last year, Wall St. ties


[24-Mar-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[24-Mar-19 07:06 PM] Litrojia#0612
voted begrudgingly for her last year, but she's near the bottom of my list of presidential candidates


[24-Mar-19 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
begrudgingly pretty much describes most of my votes in the last few years


[24-Mar-19 07:09 PM] Litrojia#0612
same


[24-Mar-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
>promised not to run for president when running for senate last year


[24-Mar-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
more neoliberal flip-flopping trash


[24-Mar-19 07:11 PM] Litrojia#0612
as an NY Democrat, she would've won reelection if she said she *was* running for president


[24-Mar-19 07:11 PM] Litrojia#0612
basically the Republican challenger's entire platform was "Gillibrand is gonna run for president, just you watch" because Republicans can't win NY on ideology


[24-Mar-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure why not runnign for president is a good senatorial platform


[24-Mar-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like ok you wont run for president, but what will you do as a senator?... oh you;re gonna run for president


[24-Mar-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
because it implies they'll stick out their term and be there for their constituents instead of waltzing off to the next big thing


[24-Mar-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
"flip-flopping" isn't necessarily and automatically bad... arbitrarily changing positions on a variety of subjects when politically convenient is the real mark of dishonesty you want to look for


[24-Mar-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
and if she's a neoliberal that's enough not to vote for her


[24-Mar-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/articles/691363/kirsten-gillibrand-2020-not-wall-street-problem

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Kirsten Gillibrand 2020? Not with her Wall Street problem.
Better start attacking finance
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[24-Mar-19 07:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Where do we draw the line between not getting divided already and weeding out the poor candidates early


[24-Mar-19 07:22 PM] Litrojia#0612
I don't know why all these random senators even bother to run


[24-Mar-19 07:22 PM] Litrojia#0612
there's nothing distinguishing about someone like Gillibrand


[24-Mar-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it;s a numbers tactic


[24-Mar-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the mroe there are the more thye might drown out the republican runners if there is anyone other than trump


[24-Mar-19 07:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The top senatorial candidates also have name recognition working in their favor


[24-Mar-19 07:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
personally, I'd like to see them *not* become candidates if only because we need strong democratic senators like Sanders and Warren *in the senate*


[24-Mar-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
the republicans are going to get absolutely buttfucked in the senate in 2020


[24-Mar-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now we need less candidates not more, but neoliberal candidates are also likely doing it to drown out the actuall leftist candidates of their own party as well


[24-Mar-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
the neoliberals will say whatever they need to say to get elected; their only goal is to make more money


[24-Mar-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
and the easiest way to make money as a politician is to pander to the corporations


[24-Mar-19 07:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What category does Mayor Pete fall in for you


[24-Mar-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is mayor pete?


[24-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg


[24-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda like him


[24-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
Fringe candidate, he seems alright but don't know a whole lot about him


[24-Mar-19 07:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
has been picking up a little steam lately


[24-Mar-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
never heard of him


[24-Mar-19 07:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
with all the candidates, I can't blame you


[24-Mar-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how many democrats are running now?


[24-Mar-19 07:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-democratic-candidates-for-president-2020-story.html

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Campaign 2020: The list of Democratic presidential candidates who ...
Campaign 2020: Here are the Democratic candidates running for president hoping to challenge Donald Trump in 2020.
https://www.trbimg.com/img-5c912356/turbine/ct-democratic-candidates-for-president-2020


[24-Mar-19 07:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know what I wanna see is more folks like Gov. Weld and Howard Schultz running


[24-Mar-19 07:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Eh, about as many as Republicans ran in 2016?


[24-Mar-19 07:29 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
probably Biden will join in and then no more


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden's already in


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
is he?


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I doubt all those are actually running


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
16 candidates?


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Some have probably expressed interest


[24-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
I thought he was like "well I'm not running yet *wink wink*"


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
But I've only seen like 6 declare official candidacy


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is way, way, too early to be deciding who we'll see on the ballot but now is definitely the time for exploratory committees


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

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2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries
The 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries and caucuses will be a series of electoral contests organized by the Democratic Party to select at least 3,768 delegates to the Democratic National Convention (number is subject to change as possible bonus delegates and penalti...


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is trying his absolute damndest to make sure there;s no other republican oponents


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The problem is we're seeing mudslinging starting *right now* on anyone who even whispers the word "president"


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
The report could be released today


[24-Mar-19 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Jesus Christ


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
I didn't see that many last time I checked


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
I can tell you this though


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is literally sending aids out to states asking them not to let other candidates on the ballots


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Half of them will drop out before the end


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Everyone has aids


[24-Mar-19 07:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah many of these candidates won't see the primary debates


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So to repeat what I said, I really wanna see more Republican challengers - I don't expect any of them to win but yeah, more Welds and Schultzes, please


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If only to show just how divided the GOP is becoming


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] Litrojia#0612
Is Schultz a Republican challenger? Thought he was more centrist


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
centrist registered as a republican maybe?


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well he's thrown his hat into the ring as a conservative, at any rate


[24-Mar-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even trump had to pick a party to run


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*I do not think president starbucks is good for us, for the record*


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Litrojia#0612
in any case, last I heard he wanted to run as independent


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right starbucks CEO is running


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
I guarantee the final debate will have three of these candidates


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's who Schultz is


[24-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Maybe 4


[24-Mar-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am half surprised walmart hasnt thrown their hat intot he ring to become president


[24-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
I want to see third party/independent candidates have legitimacy, but not with the voting system we have now


[24-Mar-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
givent hey fucking love draconian power and all


[24-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/15/william-weld-challenge-donald-trump-gop-nomination-2020/2881686002/

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Ex-Massachusetts Gov. William Weld to challenge Trump for Republic...
William Weld, a former Massachusetts governor who ran for vice president on the Libertarian Party ticket in 2016, became the first Republican to take a serious step toward challenging President Donald Trump in 2020.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/ad41a1765f35d23feea6c4a1fbbbf34d2b4352ea/c=559-345-3387-1943/local/-/media/2016/11/02/USATODAY/USATODAY/636136617751614799-AFP-AFP-G17FF.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[24-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
once a US libertarian decides they're going to do something, they won't stop


[24-Mar-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish that guy luck


[24-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
US's libertarian party is insane


[24-Mar-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont support him but i wish him luck


[24-Mar-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for his insanity


[24-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Litrojia#0612
First primary debate is in June. The stage(s) is gonna be flooded with candidates, but it'll at least be interesting to be able to compare them a bit


[24-Mar-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just imagining them all getting up on stage and then the first question is asked and they begin sucking together in unison and speak like the delightful children from down the lane


[24-Mar-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Mar-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again that mental image might work better for conservative candidates


[24-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg is actually apparently third poll wise


[24-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Behind Biden and Sanders


[24-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Also I was wrong


[24-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
The Republicans had 17 candidates before the 2016 primary


[24-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
5 withdrew before though


[24-Mar-19 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Interestingly I don't think Pete Buttigieg has gone further than the exploratory committee step yet


[24-Mar-19 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that says a lot about how much his platform resonates right now


[24-Mar-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His last name means "Lord of poultry" I think


[24-Mar-19 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Buttigieg speaks seven languages. His mother was a linguist and he learned Norweigen simply to read his favorite author in his original language. That's more or less all I know about him.


[24-Mar-19 08:47 PM] Litrojia#0612
I think he's said that he's rusty on some of them though


[24-Mar-19 08:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
I see a poll released today where he's third in Iowa (11%). National polls seem to have him at 1 or 0 percent though


[24-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
He *seems* pretty down-to-earth, so that kind of small-state stumping probably serves him best, whereas in a debate setting I don't think he could distinguish himself


[24-Mar-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1109902543843409921

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Katie Benner (@ktbenner)
https://twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1109902543843409921
here’s the 4-page letter DoJ sent to the Judiciary Committee leaders with topline findings from the #mueller report
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2cqeezW0AUtcrd.jpg:large
Twitter


[24-Mar-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
here it is


[24-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, here's the super summary by the guy trying to protect Trump


[24-Mar-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the actual report could take a month to get out or more


[24-Mar-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're going to try to say that this summary is the most they can reveal without breaking national security.


[24-Mar-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/russian-air-force-planes-land-in-venezuela-carrying-troops-report-idUSKCN1R50NB

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Russian air force planes land in Venezuela carrying troops: report
Two Russian air force planes landed in Venezuela's main airport on Saturday...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190324&t=2&i=1369691507&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF2N0P6


[24-Mar-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't believe it wasn't obstruction.


[24-Mar-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
obviously it was obstruction


[24-Mar-19 09:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I got out of that section was "he didn't say so we're saying you can't prove anything beyond a doubt"


[24-Mar-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't trust Barr


[24-Mar-19 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also note that the previous section just screams "no collusion" and outlines in specific detail all the effort Mueller went to but stops short of mentioning the *incredible* number of convictions his office turned up


[24-Mar-19 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it said it doesn't exonerate him


[24-Mar-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am a little surprised about the implication that they really didn't find anything on people in the trump campaign...'cause the public record *kinda* disagrees with that notion


[24-Mar-19 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so let's play a game of what-if. What if the trump tower meeting really was a "nothingburger" and all these people in the campaign with deep russian ties really weren't involved with the interference...how are we supposed to interpret Trump's open support of Russia today?


[24-Mar-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He likes leaders who don't have pesky restrictions on their power


[24-Mar-19 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, even if Trump himself weren't personally compromised and a complete puppet, he has *still* parroted their propaganda and given it credibility - and the implication then would be that he's done this voluntarily, without any sort of *compromat.* I'd say that's worse


[24-Mar-19 09:33 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Mar-19 09:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1109918388133023744?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1109918388133023744?s=21
No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!
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[24-Mar-19 09:43 PM] illumnious#7938
:caddy:


[24-Mar-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did he not read his own AGs report


[24-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where it said it doesn't exonerate him


[24-Mar-19 09:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Nope


[24-Mar-19 09:45 PM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[24-Mar-19 09:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Was anyone at all surprised


[24-Mar-19 09:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Nope


[24-Mar-19 09:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is this his first tweet after the blackout, too?


[24-Mar-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[24-Mar-19 09:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really wonder, though, how much that comment about total exoneration is gonna bite him if he *isn't*


[24-Mar-19 09:50 PM] illumnious#7938
A lot


[24-Mar-19 09:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, legal ramifications


[24-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a shell game where at the end the guy with the shells punches you and runs away before you can arrest him.


[24-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/23/antwon-rose-mom-michael-rosfeld-acquittal-hope-he-never-sleeps/3254582002/

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'Hope that man never sleeps': Mom of black teen Antwon Rose slams ...
The mother of an unarmed black teen who was fatally shot by a white police officer vowed to keep fighting for justice after the officer's acquittal.
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[24-Mar-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[24-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
we liv in a society where police are Judge Dredd


[24-Mar-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can execute you on the spot for running away from a pullover.


[24-Mar-19 09:55 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I don't think Republicans are the Russian trolls you're looking for


[24-Mar-19 09:55 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:twismug:


[24-Mar-19 09:57 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/trump-defends-criticism-mccain-fox-interview/3240199002/?utm_source=oembed&utm_medium=news&utm_campaign=storylines

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'But, Mr. President, he's dead': Trump defends his attacks against...
President Donald Trump defended his harsh criticism of the late Sen. John McCain in an interview with Fox Business Network set to air on Friday.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/20/USAT/1111fed6-f001-41d4-a4e8-b4fd5bec8451-Trump_McCain_AFP_AFP_18K93M.JPG?crop=5999,3360,x0,y239&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[24-Mar-19 09:57 PM] illumnious#7938

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[24-Mar-19 09:59 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Republicans are more associated with white supremacy, nazis, and Israel, commie Russia is not on that list


[24-Mar-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they identify less with the communism and more with the whole soviet power thing


[24-Mar-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
crushing gulags and all that


[24-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just like the sweet, corrupt moolah it has


[24-Mar-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
And never want to admit they were wrong.


[24-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm confused why the DoJ is saying no obstruction because there was no conspiracy


[24-Mar-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[24-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The underlying claim having merit is irrelevant


[24-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could obstruct on something the party is innocent of


[24-Mar-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the thought is "Since the russia thing wasnt proven, then nothign was BWAHAHAHAHAHA!"


[24-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the DoJ right now is the Department of J'accuse


[24-Mar-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[24-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I obstruct an investigation of my friends for trafficking drugs


[24-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And he didn't do it


[24-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I still go to prison


[24-Mar-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, Its


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
let's say we take their argument as genuine


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
but its details as disguises


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
What the argument really is is


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump obstructed justice *correctly*


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
managing to prevent them uncovering sufficient evidence to prove conspiracy


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
therefore he should spend no time in jail


[24-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's the "I won" argument


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That if you use illegal means to cover up a crime and the only thing they might be able to catch you on is the cover up, that they should let you go.


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you won the game, you beat the liberals, etc.


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Whole thing smells


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same as with saying anyone who thinks the electoral college nonsense is nonsense is just a sore loser


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it does, they've basically stacked the system in their favor


[24-Mar-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the Republican mindset, beating the system is just part of the game.


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There being no conspiracy is irrelevant


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're just defending him


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's totally relevant to Republicans


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
don't you get their mindset?


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I never will


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is their useful liberal beating moron, of course they're going to fight to keep him in


[24-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's illogical


[24-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Related to the EC


[24-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would actually partially benefit Republicans


[24-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because now you can get votes in CA or MA


[24-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And have them matter


[24-Mar-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And also it allows more radicalization


[24-Mar-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this an arguement for or agaisnt the EC?


[24-Mar-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Against


[24-Mar-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[24-Mar-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that didnt happen this time and a major problem keeps arising where everything depending on a popular vote keeps coming up democrat


[24-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Itsthinking, you hav to think like literally Hitler.


[24-Mar-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the non electoral college vote isnt benefiting them


[24-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or Hannibal Lecter


[24-Mar-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
To understand the Republican mindset


[24-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or Immanuel Kant


[24-Mar-19 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Hitler stole my goddamn bike


[24-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you hav to imagine that it's okay if you kill people as long as they're bad people


[24-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that one should never violate sovereignty even if it means another nation takes all your people and eats them


[24-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that in the end it's not really about that


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
lying, murder, making people starve to death


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
those aren't bad things to Republicans


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that sovreignity only exxtends to your country and you shoudl violate the sovreignity of everyone else


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
To a Republican, a bad thing is murdering *the wrong* person


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
To a Republican, the correct people must starve.


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is their worldview.


[24-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Africa *should* starve in their view.


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's not the correct people.


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
But moreover


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if somewhere shouldn't starve


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
we can't just send them aid


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should rely upon generous individuals to provide


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eating is a privilege that our glorious rich masters may bestow upon the poor.


[24-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
never a right.


[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if our glorious rich masters broke the rules


[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's our duty to protect them


[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
no matter which rules they broke


[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause they're the correct people.


[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
.p hitler, theft


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[24-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't believe every man is created equal.


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
water is a fruit only the rich people should bore. if we allow the poor to have it then there would be none left to charge money on


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't believe everyone has a right to vote, or free speech, or own a gun.


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They believe *certain types of people* should be given those things.


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They believe liberals are crazy because liberals believe equality can exist.


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
that attacks the republican voters who do think man is created equal though by comparing them to hitler


[24-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now do you get it, @Itsthinking?


[24-Mar-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the difference between republican voters and republican politicians


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
just like you just push people towards actual socialism and communism by calling them socialists and communists when they aren't, you push people towards actual fascism and nazism by calling them fascists and nazis when they aren't


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, I should note


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are republican politicians that do beleive in equality but they get chewed up and cast aside


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You will see Republicans defend a rich blakk guy too


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's not because they aren't racist


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor is it just because they're classist


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
What it's about is they see that a blakk guy tore his way up the social ladder to the top.


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to them, that makes him a demigod


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I have to abandon everything I believe in


[24-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it justifies putting the blakks down


[24-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that those few can rise up


[24-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans believe that it's immoral to disobey the gov't, even if the gov't is shooting the poor.


[24-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So when you talk about the police and such


[24-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
to them, police are gov't


[24-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any resistance means it's okay to be murdered.


[24-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, caveat


[24-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
many Republicans hate "gov't overreach"


[24-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they mean is


[24-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hate it when liberal gov't prevents what they believe to be the natural order of society.


[24-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They see that the police are there to take away the guns from a white person (cause remember, they don't think blakks hav gun rights)


[24-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
In that instance, to them that gov't is illegitimate


[24-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[24-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives according to studies view the gov't as illegitimate when liberals are in power


[24-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals view the gov't as still legitimate when conservatives are in power


[24-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Republican approach is to biased, intentionally, on everything, towards what they view as their own.


[24-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
In their worldview, all politics are identity/tribal politics.


[24-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
In their worldview, you don't giv equal education funding


[24-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You start with the whitest, richest neighborhoods


[24-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's nothing discriminatory about it cause you're just rewarding success.


[24-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a few conservatives are *literally* sociopaths, they don't hav empathy


[24-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've talked with people like that


[24-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, the suffering of others is *completely* irrelevant.


[24-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, people starving to death is tantamount to painting a building the wrong color.


[24-Mar-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way they process morality is they come up with strict rules that must be followed, and if you're suffering, it's your own fault, obey the fukking rules.


[24-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so when you tell them that North Dakota is trying to disenfranchise voters


[24-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care that people are being disenfranchised


[24-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
to them, the gov't made a rule, the rule must be followed, end of story.


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How are they still getting so many moderate voters then


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you see a problem with that, it can't be because you ever cared about natives, it has to be because you are parroting liberal talking points in order to threaten the rightful conservative rule.


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
These views are nothing short of extremist bullshit


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because there are only 2 parties


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
the voting system is plurality


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no moderate option


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
when there is, it's a Democrat


[24-Mar-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
so you hav a vote between a moderate and an extremist


[24-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now sure, maybe a moderate will win most of the time


[24-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but even if it's by like 60%


[24-Mar-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're putting things 60% of the way on average between "rampant sociopathic capitalism that literally believes the poor should be ground up for food" and "maybe we shouldn't kill the blakks"


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think that that is going to lead to never killing any blakks?


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
When it's 40% of the way in that direction?


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fallacy of the golden mean is what describes this horrible bad choice


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
People inherently believe 50% of the way between the ends is correct.


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So the Dems should go hardline leftist???


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it means we kill 50% of the jews instead of 0%.


[24-Mar-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily


[24-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause where you are in extremity also matters for how often you win


[24-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Dems go hard left, they only win 50% of the time


[24-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with some bizarre half and half mix of different extremes


[24-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
which almost approximates moderate ideals


[24-Mar-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You end up with simultaneously programs to tear up blakk neighborhoods to make high-rises, but also affirmative action in employment.


[24-Mar-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't what anybody actually wants.


[24-Mar-19 11:04 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So wdyd


[24-Mar-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the moderate Dem path does hav a victory condition


[24-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, if you get 66% wins in terms of actual politicians elected


[24-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you don't hav to listen to that 33%, ever.


[24-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans did in 2010 is they made sure Dems would need 60% of the vote in many states just to get 50% of the politicians


[24-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is as hard a gerrymandering job as you can do.


[24-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Dems had a huge surge of support in the midterms


[24-Mar-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why can't every redistricting committee be independent/bipartisan


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the founding fathers never foresaw this issue.


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they didn't write rules for it


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So now the courts are having to say "this is clearly gerrymandered"


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But liiike


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Congress exists


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They can write rules, can't they


[24-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not when half of them are Republicans who don't want the rules.


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And the other half are Dems


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If both wanna rig


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't do anything in congress with 50% support.


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with breaking up the 2 party rule is the 2 parties rule


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If we had a voting system that allowed third parties to exist


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
as more than joke votes


[24-Mar-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
then much of this wouldn't be a huge issue


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Man at least in Europe parties have to work together to form a majority coalition


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV kills Republicans. **Hard.**


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And get some kind of moderate solution


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(IRV?)


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instant Runoff Voting.


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
republicans are too radical to survive it atm


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what's that


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in a runoff


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav a series of 2-candidate elections


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
you list all your candidates from most to least preferred


[24-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
err, more than 2


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Until it's only 2, then 1 wins


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, runoffs are expensive


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
so like #1-#10, if #1 doesn't win the first round, your vote goes to #2 in the second round


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause doing it properly


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
where there's 12 candidates


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
means a 12-candidate election, then 11, then 10...all the way down to 2


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's always the lowest who loses each round


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worst loser each time doesn't move on.


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV simulates this


[24-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
it lets you mark the order your vote should change on each loss


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh I see


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want X candidate, but X was the worst loser in this round, so it goes to your next preference, Y


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
One election can decide a plurality instantly


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
maine did this in federal election, the republican candidate filed a lawsuit to block the vote once it was down to like 3 candidates left and the democrat got a big boost


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, this has some quirks to it


[24-Mar-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
the republican was still winning, but just barely


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
the courts denied his attempt to block it, and he lost in the last round


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, let's say we hav a hypothetical IRV election with 3 candidates for the 2016 presidency


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary, Kasich, and Trump.


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, let's change that


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(would not have called Kasich the 3rd place guy tbh)


[24-Mar-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jill Stein, Hillary Clinton, John Kasich, and Donald Trump.


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
These candidates form a spectrum of left to right


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(Bernie in place of Jill?)


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stein's policies are the most well-liked, Hillary is the most hated


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is too well-liked for this example


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok


[24-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
(he'd win virtually any voting system that allows a third between him and all other 2016 candidates)


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, who should win?


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is hated and his policies are too, but a dedicated group loves him


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
A smaller group loves Hillary, she's more hated, but her policies are pretty much what everyone is okay with


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's the same situation for Hillary, I presume


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stein is noncontroversial and her policies are okay


[24-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich is noncontroversial and his policies are okay


[24-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
In IRV, Stein and Kasich will never win.


[24-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a likely winner


[24-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary tho has a good shot


[24-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
but here's the rub


[24-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most Republicans are not Trump


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any other Republican there loses to Hillary hands-down.


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because IRV selects candidates people hate.


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wouldn't Reps pick Kasich over Hillary


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because humans gravitate towards opposing sides


[24-Mar-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
In IRV


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh sure


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd go like


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump > Kasich > Hillary > Stein


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I can see Kasich as a common #2 in the first election for Reps


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Kasich loses to Hillary


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because he's ranked higher, but not top.


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not enough 1st place votes ._.


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
your vote only transfers when the guy loses


[24-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
If your second preference loses in round 1


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
your second preference doesn't exist.


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
If literally every voter selects Kasich in position 2


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
In that case, how is IRV different from the current primary system


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And selects random crap in position 1


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich is guaranteed to lose


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Either way, Hillary and Trump are still the top 2


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but remember, most Republicans aren't Trump


[24-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't quite hav the charismatic base of racists


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason IRV kills Republicans hard is


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
it favors far left candidates


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They'll still pick Trump over Hillary tho


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's what happened in '16


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2016 was a dumpster fire of an election


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV can pretty much only elect extremists and super-centrists


[24-Mar-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one saw this selection of shit candidates coming


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it favors left extremists in a way primaries don't


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a primary


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
the most conservative voters of the party determine the party's choice


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they're the oldest


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why not just do the IRV systems but screw rounds


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thus the most likely to vote


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
as conservatism increases with age, as does ability to vote


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
1st gets 4 pts, 2nd gets 3, etc


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So IRV kills Republicans because it simultaneously stops putting forth moderate dems


[24-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't push things towards a balance


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be good for a republican purge but not so great for th elong term?


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The extreme Republicans often lose in the last round


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Any system that favors extremism is dangerous


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be fine for the long term, really


[24-Mar-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it would be very silly


[24-Mar-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is sensitive to initial conditions (an attribute known as "chaotic")


[24-Mar-19 11:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Once again, why not the 4 pts, 3 pts, 2 pts, etc system


[24-Mar-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's just plurality with extra steps.


[24-Mar-19 11:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Eh


[24-Mar-19 11:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump would get a lot of 4s, sure, but way more 2s and 1s


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
In actual practice, that behaves like Plurality


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd say we decide elections via boxing but most candidates right now are geriatric elderlies


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably better than our current system ngl


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are systems that behave very unlike plurality, as well as unlike IRV, however.


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The simplest one is Approval


[24-Mar-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i;d pay to see biden vs trump int he ring


[24-Mar-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You approve of as many candidates as you want


[24-Mar-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
the winning candidate has the most approvals


[24-Mar-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason this works very very well is because it violates the condition IRV is trying to satisfy


[24-Mar-19 11:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought for a second you were going to do "best approval-disapproval difference"


[24-Mar-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, that's more complicated, there are voting systems that use that and they're hair-pulling.


[24-Mar-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
speaking from experience here...


[24-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
So IRV is trying to satisfy the condition that your 2nd, 3rd etc. preferences never "hurt" you by making them win over your 1st.


[24-Mar-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it only considers them when your 1st loses.


[24-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This makes IRV feel great because you vote strategically


[24-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
it also means IRV sukks because you vote strategically


[24-Mar-19 11:26 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So you're against IRV then


[24-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Strategic voting leads to very bizarre behavior where a candidate people didn't actually want wins.


[24-Mar-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, IRV is better than Plurality


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's what most countries end up replacing Plurality with


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But you just said it sucks


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sucks but it;s better thna plurality basically


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most voting systems sukk huge donkey balls.


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You said approval was fine


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but countries don't like it


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it's not strategic.


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Countries don't want a good voting system


[24-Mar-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want a corrupt one.


[24-Mar-19 11:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ugh


[24-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is a tad less corrupt, but still tolerable


[24-Mar-19 11:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Bipartisan/independent for everything election-related when


[24-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, in approval voting, Jill Stein would win after nearly tying with Kasich


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary and Trump would barely even compete.


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's who i voted for during the final vote in 2016


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Thought it would be a coin toss


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that''s IRV


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Kasich and Stein you described as identical


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stein is far left


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich is centrist


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh


[24-Mar-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
But America right now is center-left


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Doubt you on Kasich being centrist there


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in IRV it would be a coin toss. in approval platform and values would play out more than they woudl in IRV


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, 30% of America thinks it's okay to obstruct justice


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
as long as it gets the niggers lynched etc.


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich is centrist.


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I doubt that.


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Numerous polls don't lie.


[24-Mar-19 11:30 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Just b/c they vote Rep doesn't mean they believe in the bullshit happening there


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And poll results can change with minor changes in diction and wordinf


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can actually speak from experience that they do...


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about their voting habits


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay north carolina!


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, you mean america right now is center-right


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about polls on what they think about Trump obstructing justice


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It really isn't tho


[24-Mar-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
America is bizarre


[24-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
like the people might be center-left, but the government is center-right


[24-Mar-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is political bizzaro world


[24-Mar-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we fought nazis but y'know what we shoudl just let them exist in america because freedom of speech...


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s really fucking bizare


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are things like Borda Count


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
STV (crazy Australian system that enshrines parties)


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
MMP (another party-enshriner)


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
But generally they're complicated and don't fix the actual issues


[24-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Approval and IRV are two opposite things that mostly behave well.


[24-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
IRV is the far worse of the two, but it's at least waaaay less complicated than STV


[24-Mar-19 11:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why don't countries want fairness


[24-Mar-19 11:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Shouldn't they given that once they're at a disadvantage, they're literally fucked


[24-Mar-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it elads to people gettign what they want intstead of parties gettign what thye want


[24-Mar-19 11:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(also look at Kasich's positions; I assure you he's fairly right leaning, even though he does admittedly support climate change)


[24-Mar-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now most politicians are run by corporations who i will assure you, dont want what the people want


[24-Mar-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything needs to be as unfair as possible so they can maximize profit and cull the useless herds of poor people


[24-Mar-19 11:37 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Lobbyism needs to go, yes


[24-Mar-19 11:38 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But that's its own elephant in its own room, largely unrelated to voting systems


[24-Mar-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america, lobbying is the voting system


[24-Mar-19 11:38 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A plurality system can still be a plurality system without corporations pulling the strings, is what I mean


[24-Mar-19 11:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And it'll be a fairer system when that occurs


[24-Mar-19 11:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(still trash tho)


[24-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the 2 party voter system is hard to break because the 2 parties want full control. Any other voting system is a detriment to that strangle hold


[24-Mar-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of countries tend to either favour right leaning authority, or left leaning policies. but america is a bizarre system that embraces both in a horrible combination of unhelpfulness


[24-Mar-19 11:41 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So how do we break it


[24-Mar-19 11:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(won't be easy, got that much for sure)


[24-Mar-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well for starters we need to break one of the parties itself


[24-Mar-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preferably right


[24-Mar-19 11:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A plurality system can work, but not in conjunction with 2 party


[24-Mar-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if one is broken then a power vacuum may form that let's the voting system readjust to fit mroe parties... of course i;m an idiot and that coudl fail horribly as well so who knows


[24-Mar-19 11:43 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's kind of what happened in the early 1800s with the collapse of the Federalists


[24-Mar-19 11:43 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But then


[24-Mar-19 11:43 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It only resulted in 2 parties; all that happened was that the Whigs became party #2


[24-Mar-19 11:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What I've gotten out of this convo is that 2-party + plurality is a shit combination


[24-Mar-19 11:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Either change plurality to approval or 2-party to multi-party


[24-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem is that if the elft falls then we end up with a corporate empire run by right leaning extremists that has no counter


[24-Mar-19 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
There is only one option to rescue true democracy and purify the demos of the ownership class

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[24-Mar-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[24-Mar-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know what this is


[24-Mar-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federaci%C3%B3n_Anarquista_Ib%C3%A9rica

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[24-Mar-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
They were one of the two organizations in a dual anarchist alliance during the Spanish Civil War that mostly preceded over Catalonia. They've recieved a lot of shit from Trots and shit for merely replicating the state structure as opposed to abolishing it outright like "true anarchists" would do. But they did make a more libertarian model that granted far more power to the factory workers and peasants. Compared to conditions before the Civil War as I've read, production increased - doubled in some cases - and over all quality of life went up. Up until one of their leading figures became president of the Republic in its twilight and was forced to try and shut the CNT-FAI down.


[25-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why people don't understand that you can't have a functioning society without a state structure unless you have literally millions of every conceivable product per person


[25-Mar-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
which won't be a thing until the machines are making machines


[25-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
which won't be a thing until next century at least


[25-Mar-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not abolishing the state as an organ of class ruler

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[25-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Honahue#0656
why tf would you need millions of every conceivable product per person? that's impossible nor necessary.


[25-Mar-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
As Kropotkin wrote, not everyone wants or needs to wear the finest of suits.


[25-Mar-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
So there doesn't need to be as many gucci suits as there are people.


[25-Mar-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because whose gonna be doing their four hours of baking or farm labor for the commune in a gucci suit? No one, because that's be scratchy and uncomfortable.


[25-Mar-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
And not everyone's going to be interested in the same activity, but where the materials are not available to suit everyone interested in that activity or hobby, the option to allow and teach people to produce the materials for that hobby should be provided.


[25-Mar-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the same way he proposes any novelist should learn their way around a print house to self print and publish a book. But since typewriters were just around the corner and within near sight as a future useful tool; computers and automated systems can make the conditions of physical self-publishing - let alone digital online publishing - even easier and more accessible and less imprisoning in terms of labor.


[25-Mar-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, you need things to be so abundant as to be worthless to both hoard and trade for


[25-Mar-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
since one of the problems with providing any sort of resource aid to shitty warlord-ridden countries is that the warlords will roll through and forcefully take all of the resources in order to sell elsewhere for a huge profit


[25-Mar-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
you'd need the resource in question to be so abundant that no one would pay any amount of money for it


[25-Mar-19 12:50 AM] Honahue#0656
for the most part outside of things like yachts and lambos we do have that kind of material satisfaction it's just not distributed equitably


[25-Mar-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's why efforts to spread medicine in those same countries in order to eradicate human infecting hookworm and other third world diseases are unimpaired by the warlords because the medicine is worthless everywhere else


[25-Mar-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's not worth the effort to confiscate it all and resell it because there isn't any market for it


[25-Mar-19 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not enacting democratically direct committees or federations of delegates committed to the distribution of needed goods and meme'ing about how warlords in historically exploited countries where western outsiders give tacet support for said warlords so long as they keep conflict mineral prices low would be an issue when these people could be eliminated as they become needed and a political ethics shift turns towards working directly with the workers and peasants of the warlord states.


[25-Mar-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
but military intervention is :imperialism:


[25-Mar-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not when you just stop dealing with the warlords themselves and hang back on your own resources and let the situation revolution itself


[25-Mar-19 12:58 AM] Honahue#0656
warlords are just capitalist we don't see as legitamate


[25-Mar-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you also step back to take a historical materialist sort of outlook on it, the only reason they are in power is because of the material validation of outside powers, basically customers that ensure a flow of capital to the regime on condition they maintain things as the  outside powers will. If someone were to simply not want to deal with them outright by purchasing commodities from them, cutting off their flow of capital they might be forced in the interest of their own political power change their priorities or be over thrown.


[25-Mar-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
And once the material power of one class shifts towards another - in this case, the warlords find themselves without capital and they begin to loose money - power shifts to another growing class; which may be the once oppressed workers who find themselves able to move once the warlords can not longer pay their mercs to keeps guard over the mines and they can rise up.


[25-Mar-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
An imperialist way to go about that may be to pick someone from the rising workers or someone who can control them to replace the old leadership and deal directly with them. Or an internationalist sort of take would be to partner the whole of one commune with that of another in mutual support to raise the power and liberties of both parties in respect to each, and not a direct attempt to oppress the one through geopolitics. Where as in an internationalist outlook it'd be "we will treat you as equals and deal on the standards of your needs and each other's".


[25-Mar-19 01:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[25-Mar-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao this guy gets it https://derpibooru.org/dis/european-union-may-pass-law-that-could-lead-to-this-site-being-unusable/post/4280612#post_4280612

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[25-Mar-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[25-Mar-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more europe copy right bill shit


[25-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't the media lose "all credibility" every nanosecond in the eyes of the right?


[25-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
>Media:
>Conservatives: MEDIA HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY REEEEEEEE


[25-Mar-19 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except fox news which gains credibility because they arent technically a news network


[25-Mar-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by technical means they are registered like how the onion is registered


[25-Mar-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only not played up for comedy


[25-Mar-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except when lawsuits pop up and they're suddenly all "But it;s satire, we didnt mean any of what we said!"


[25-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqqTHs397Y

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[25-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
related


[25-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dw MAGA hats are incredibly good teaching tools for microaggression and discrimination


[25-Mar-19 02:35 AM] moonatik#3676
the media is garbage tho


[25-Mar-19 02:35 AM] moonatik#3676
on this issue and nearly every other


[25-Mar-19 02:36 AM] moonatik#3676
they've covered this retarded conspiracy theory more than they've covered the genocide in yemen


[25-Mar-19 02:36 AM] moonatik#3676
not one major outlet has honestly reported syria or venezuela


[25-Mar-19 02:37 AM] moonatik#3676
they lie us into crisis and after crisis and war after war


[25-Mar-19 02:37 AM] moonatik#3676
the media doesn't exist to tell the truth it exists to make money and support it's corporate masters


[25-Mar-19 02:40 AM] moonatik#3676
so, no, the media has not lost all credibility


[25-Mar-19 02:40 AM] moonatik#3676
because it never had any to start with


[25-Mar-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s one of the reasons most news networks lambast youtube for every tiny drama because it pulls ratings fromt hem with credible news update channels. well that and just entertainment in general


[25-Mar-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a dumb theory that the reason so many companies want to start up their own streaming service IS to dillute the streaming pool and make cable look mroe palatable


[25-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The media is out to make money and they do that by hyping up problems like Trump/Russia


[25-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not reporting on it would've been dumb.


[25-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a problem that pretty much every week there was news about it


[25-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the barest of things got a full report.


[25-Mar-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of waiting for evidence to accrue.


[25-Mar-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not only that but, since it was 24 hour news networks, the trump russia news was put on loop with new hosts each hour


[25-Mar-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
endlessly


[25-Mar-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for each and every bit of new information


[25-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I don't trust any American media because I know they all suck politician dick


[25-Mar-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everytime some new piece of meuller came out thye called it a bombshell drop of impeachment countdown


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
fox is honestly the worst of the worst


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
they're like Alex Jones


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
but like


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
on a public level


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wasnt alex jones a fox news host?


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
nah, afaik


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i always thought the alex jones show was a fox news thing


[25-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
nah


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
Alex Jones hosted infowars


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
his own "alternative" media


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
but filled with conspiracy bullshit


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know glenn beck was a fox news thing until he got shat out by advertisers and elft to create his ownj channel with black jack and hookers


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
American media is weighted heavily towards leftist views

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[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Fox News is simply different


[25-Mar-19 02:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reagan fucked up today's media by getting rid of its unbiased nature on important issues


[25-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
Fox News is conservative lol


[25-Mar-19 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Regardless of how the chips fell in terms of media bias, now no media site can be trusted


[25-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
but they do even less research than CNN/ NBC, etc


[25-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
yes, they're the conservatives out of the many lefty news media


[25-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Mikey#7286
Alex Jones is like them but independent


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Fox News needs competition tbh


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
American media isn't very left


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
glennbeck has the blaze as well which is basically one big conservative compiracy propaganda channel


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Need another conservative news network


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's further right than media in most countries


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
competition would't fix them


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
or make them good, or something


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
More conservative networks = larger echo chamber


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most conservative news is small and local


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Reagan fucked everything, didn't he


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Same with more liberal networks


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yes


[25-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local yes, but not small.


[25-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local news channels are often very neutral to start


[25-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they get snapped up


[25-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
At which point they start spouting political views (usually conservative ones) and lose viewers


[25-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the strategy with TV


[25-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Mikey#7286
the left already has an echo chamber with CNN, NBC, CNBC, etc lol


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
https://www.journalism.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2014/10/PJ_14.10.21_mediaPolarization-08.png


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tend to avoid tv news


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Right now the media in the US is just 2 separate echo chambers


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yerp


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's based on audience, not the source


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
This is the audience


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Not the source


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
America as a whole is somewhat left


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats win in the generic ballot by a 10 point margin.


[25-Mar-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato that's not true


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2018/02/28/Photos/NS/MW-GE557_MediaB_20180228115701_NS.jpg?uuid=659e15a6-1ca8-11e8-83b2-9c8e992d421e

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https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2018/02/28/Photos/NS/MW-GE557_MediaB_20180228115701_NS.jpg?uuid=659e15a6-1ca8-11e8-83b2-9c8e992d421e


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be very unusual if the average audience member wasn't slightly left


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
there's Dem neoliberalism, Rep neoliberalism, and then there's the anti-science crowd


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
That last one is growing alarmingly fast


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So more than 2?


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notice the huge bulge at the top in the middle


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
OwO


[25-Mar-19 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Fuckin' hell I saw a message like that coming a mile away


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Still funny


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm giggling like a retarded 12 year old


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
If you look at the data carefully, it still shows a left bias


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
How?


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the things you linked is audience, which says nothing of bias


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's easy to find patterns in noise


[25-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other thing you linked is a BELL CURVE of positionings


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
how is this "further right"


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I kinda see it but it's very weak


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
who said far right?


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
my bad


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
"further" right


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who said further right?


[25-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are you talking about?


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
eh


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
"American media isn't very left, it's further right than media in most countries"


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
i see a fairly balanced amount of bias on both sides in that chart


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You havn't established a comparison with other countries


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
not really skewed towards one way


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've only provided data on the US media and The Guardian


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[25-Mar-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Guardian is shown clearly as on the left side


[25-Mar-19 03:06 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Show me your data then


[25-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not much great data, but there is this https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/n2brop7n28/Eurotrack_January_MediaRepresentation_Website.pdf


[25-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, other than specifically immigration, media across Europe is seen by readers as having a bias towards the right


[25-Mar-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in the UK


[25-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is interesting


[25-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly they didn't get the US in this


[25-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the US is comparable to the UK however, then it's further right than most of Europe


[25-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Well yeah, European countries are more socialist


[25-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would indicate, if the media supports the gov't by and large, that the media is more left.


[25-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.pewglobal.org/2018/01/11/publics-globally-want-unbiased-news-coverage-but-are-divided-on-whether-their-news-media-deliver/pg_2018-01-11_global-media-habits_0-02/

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Deep political divides on whether news media cover political issue...
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[25-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather indirect, this measures perception of bias of readers divided by whether they support the governing party


[25-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I think, in regards to American TV news networks, that there is more of a left bias, it also shows in the talk show hosts as well


[25-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can see that by and large


[25-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
supporting the governing parties of europe indicates perceiving less media bias


[25-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
indicating the media is biased towards governing parties


[25-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then there's the US and it's a mess


[25-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
regulation isn't socialism tho


[25-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
to silly American it is


[25-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to the EPA


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the regulation they're rolling bakk on coal plant pollution


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Europeans and Americans view "socialism" differently


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
will kill an average of 4 people per day


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is considered okay.


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kill 4 people a day, increase coal company profits by like .1%


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
American definitin of socialism: anything the governement does and the more it does the more socialist it


[25-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
is


[25-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Mikey#7286
americans see socialism as "scary and shit" Euros see it as "normal"


[25-Mar-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american socialism: the interference against the fuck over of america;s population for profit


[25-Mar-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
european socialism: nationalizing private industry


[25-Mar-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
american socialism: any government beyond military


[25-Mar-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the forests are on fire we need to elt thme burn because having a fire department is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Mikey#7286
having a clean environment is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Mikey#7286
letting people live is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Mikey#7286
:Kappa:


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Giving a fuck about your citizenry is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Not letting corporations actually own people is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Holding cops accountable for killing unarmed black people is socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
that's the traditional view of Liberalism, helping people selflessly is bad


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want a house? that's fucking socialism bitch


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Restrictions on predatory lending? Socialism!


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism is the foundation of capitalism


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want to walk places isntead of riding in a car? socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sidewalks are socialism!


[25-Mar-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Roads are socialism


[25-Mar-19 03:27 AM] Macarou#9574
New Urbanism is socialism.


[25-Mar-19 03:27 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I still don't understand why people don't like Bernie Sanders


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want a job that doesnt treat you like expensdable trash hobos? that's communism you dirty red traitor!


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
there's not very many people who don't not like bernie in the US


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people fucking love bernie


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Mikey#7286
because "aaaaa socialism"


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except the political parties


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
bernie very likely could've beaten trump in 2016


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
he'd definitely win in 2020


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I'm pretty sure he's not a tyrant in disguise


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
as long as he gets nominated


[25-Mar-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt and that;s whjy they hate him


[25-Mar-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tyrants take bribes, bernie doesnt


[25-Mar-19 03:29 AM] Mikey#7286
he looks like the old grandpa who loves his grandkids and spoils them


[25-Mar-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he looks liek a loveable old man


[25-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
remember when the bird landed on his podium at a rally


[25-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
and the crowd went insane


[25-Mar-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do not. this happened?


[25-Mar-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s a political disney princess


[25-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2wCXKgG1E

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2wCXKgG1E
Bird lands on Sanders' podium during Portland rally
Bernie Sanders took a moment to comment on the symbolism of the bird that interrupted his rally in Portland, Oregon.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FV2wCXKgG1E/hqdefault.jpg


[25-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
Birdy Sanders


[25-Mar-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dawwi fucking love this guy


[25-Mar-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie 2020 please


[25-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Honahue#0656
unfortunatly there are some liberals who hate him cause he wants to reach out to rural America


[25-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Macarou#9574
Why would liberals hate his appealing to Rural America?


[25-Mar-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
because rich people hate poor people


[25-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Honahue#0656
literally feel that white rural american's are drooling racist morons


[25-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Macarou#9574
Well, that sure is a silly thought for them to think


[25-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Why would they think that?


[25-Mar-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
most people aren't actually overtly racist despite all the liberal memes


[25-Mar-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because rich people tend to be extremely out of touch with poor people and they build entire walls around everything about them to keep from having to interact with poor people


[25-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
this is why we get self driving cars instead of public transport


[25-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
cause Tesla owners don't want to be in the same vehicle as the poors


[25-Mar-19 03:41 AM] Macarou#9574
Why not? Is the difference between rich and poor that extreme?


[25-Mar-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[25-Mar-19 03:42 AM] Macarou#9574
Has it always been this extreme?


[25-Mar-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2014/10/04/breaking-the-camels-back this is the economic history of it I'll see if i can find the social half of it

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Breaking the camel’s back
What an impressive work of economic history tells you about inequality
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[25-Mar-19 03:46 AM] Macarou#9574
I can't even read the full article without signing up, damn


[25-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[25-Mar-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll see if i can find another source


[25-Mar-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth inequality has not always been this extreme


[25-Mar-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has been growing hugely since the 70s


[25-Mar-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_inequality

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Economic inequality
Economic inequality covers a wide variety of topics. It can refer to either income distribution (measuring the amount of money people are paid) or the distribution of wealth (the amount of wealth people own). Besides economic inequality between countries or states, there are ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Gini_Coefficient_World_CIA_Report.svg/1200px-Gini_Coefficient_World_CIA_Report.svg.png


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
US wealth inequality has gotten really, really bad


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically it started growing extreme with reagan


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan had some good ideas like higher taxes on capital gains


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but most of his ideas favored the rich


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reagan was the start of a lot of unintentionally horrible ideas


[25-Mar-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trikkle-down/reaganomics doesn't work


[25-Mar-19 03:49 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh my, I see.


[25-Mar-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reaganomics theorizes that the economy is liek a funnel and puttign money at the top let's it trickle down to the bottom. however the problem arises when the rich cork the funnel and hoard allt he filling


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't even need to cork it


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
fundamentally, money funnels up in capitalism


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the more money a company has, the more it's able to outcompete smaller ones


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And more able to influence policy of the gov't


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the lower class spending the money is what fuels it


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lower class HAS to buy what the upper class produces


[25-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the money goes up by default


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the upper class can hire fewer and fewer people by finding more inefficiencies.


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hiring's the only way money goes down


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
back in the 60's, the salary difference between the CEO and the lowest paid employee of a corporation was about 42x, now it's something like 1400x


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
other than taxes and welfare


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but welfare has been cut


[25-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
as hav taxes on the rich


[25-Mar-19 03:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
The people with the ability and power to strongly advocate for public transportation or other services tend to not really need them. The wealth and associated education discrepancy skews power to the coasts, which is an unironically Repuican thing to admit. But the associated class differences between them and the poors in middle America creates a sort of hostility and cynicism about plans that would actually work, because those plans also mean cutting into their wealth which is at the lowest it's ever been taxed in this country for over a century, if not longer. There's a mindset that if those people in even rural Pennsylvania or where ever learned to code then they'll be sharing in the wealth and shit that the same coastal upper classes seem to believe they're merited. The reality is that learning to code isn't a viable skill option for many people, even retiring Boomers and on top of that every working class person left behind learning to code would devalue the skill to code, which is only beneficial to the Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezo's of the world.


[25-Mar-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't because CEO salaries have necessarily gone up uncontrollably


[25-Mar-19 03:53 AM] Macarou#9574
This sounds horribly extreme and excessively in favour of the wealthy. Oh dear.


[25-Mar-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's because the working class hasn't had their compensation meet their productivity since the 60s


[25-Mar-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
TFW muh stagnant real wages.


[25-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
For reference, "real" here means relative to inflation.


[25-Mar-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
back in the 50's, the top 1% only had about 10% of the total wealth of the nation


[25-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
as of 2017, the top 1% had about 40% of the total wealth of the nation


[25-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So wages may go up, but by same amount as inflation, meaning the worker isn't actually getting more value at the end of the day


[25-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, current minimum wage is about 30% less than 1956 minimum wage after accounting for inflation.


[25-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
plus actually getting anything but what used to be considered "entry level part-time jobs" is impossible now


[25-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage would need to be raised over $9 now to hit 1956 buying power.


[25-Mar-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
even with all the degrees in the world


[25-Mar-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
walmart defeated america


[25-Mar-19 03:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want forty dollars an hour and a four hour work day.


[25-Mar-19 03:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
No questions.


[25-Mar-19 03:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
I will only go up on pay


[25-Mar-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the ability for the average consumer to buy things at considerably lower cost by volume benefits meant people didn't need the raises they used to get


[25-Mar-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
if it weren't for walmart things would have come to a head much quicker


[25-Mar-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because of supply-side economics


[25-Mar-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is essentially Reaganomics


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The theory is you pump up the suppliers with money


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but WalMart only functions cause they can push production to places with lower costs of living or literal slaves to maek their shit


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they sell things cheap and so people hav more disposable income


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the end of the day, wages drop


[25-Mar-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause cheap products and like no workers necessary mean no wages


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't immediately see society gutted cause people can still afford food etc. cause it's super cheap


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but real estate and such aren't ever cheap


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is people's net income shrinks as housing and other costs like healthcare balloon relatively


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes a choice to get like twenty loaves of bread or your insulin.


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
real estate is 100% speculation based


[25-Mar-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
no wage only spend


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And without savings, byte


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the economy booms


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
spending causes rapid growth


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rapid growth causes rising real estate prices.


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
rapid growth is not good for long-term stability


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which leads to more spending...and homelessness


[25-Mar-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then you hav these cities with megacompanies


[25-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
with super cheap products


[25-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the real estate prices are thru the roof even tho there's many more houses+apartments than people


[25-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there's homeless all over the place


[25-Mar-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what neoliberalism has done.


[25-Mar-19 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Joe Average wants to buy a house he thinks he's paying for the house and land, but for the really big players in real estate whatever building on it might not be suited for purpose so it's just additional cost to them but what they want is the land. Really pricy million dollar homes are rarely sold for the home often the new owners knock over the old one and build the one they want


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Macarou#9574
That is certainly an awful state of affairs. How would one go about correcting this?


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
guillotines


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
nationalization


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I like the guillotines idea more


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both sounds good


[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[25-Mar-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
NYC has actually claimed they're going to confiscate apartment complexes from shitty landlords


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a mess but I hope they succeed


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Macarou#9574
They are? And what will they do with them?


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
rent control would be good


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
it likely won't survive legal challenges, but one can dream


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope so too


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's a hard thing to solve


[25-Mar-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can solve homelessness by giving people houses so they can get their lives together and be able to afford rent again


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you keep generating more of them, that's an expensive solution


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to put serious regulations on rent prices


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's also a bandaid


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to stop this craziness of wages being super low and hardly any workers needed


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So minimum wage laws


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
a lot of "market rate" housing is held by people trying to make passive income instead of getting used by people that could work and live in the city even if they're just baristas


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But on the workers thing, you need to encourage the arts and new industry


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means subsidies


[25-Mar-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Macarou#9574
Why the Arts?


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the arts havn't yet faced serious automation.


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
people aren't robots


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
we like nice things


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But as far as STEM goes


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's serious frictional unemployment right now


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
people put out of work by robots who need better skills to get jobs


[25-Mar-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
A college degree barely gets you a job at fukking walmart


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we need to make college free and consider making regulations that make employers less cutthroat on hiring.


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and wealth inequality has some nastiness to it beyond this


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Honahue#0656
jobs program would be good too


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, when people recognize they're very poor


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Macarou#9574
How would one make the colleges free? and are there really that many people who have the potential to be competent at art?


[25-Mar-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
they take more risks


[25-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Macarou Well you'd need a way to stop the crazy rising tuition, and then pay tuition with pell grants more


[25-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
European countries are doing these things


[25-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
well there's the thing the general idea of "competnece" isn't if the art is good it's if the art will sell


[25-Mar-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
American colleges hav weird shit where they raise tuition to pay for buildings to get artificial attractivity scores that are used by students to decide where to go


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
the crazy rising tuition is coming from the expansion of services and sports


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even highly in demand jobs like hvac are in danger since homeless people dont have air conditioners, rich people likely have their own hired technichians from a private corp, and equipment and machines keep getting mroe and more expensive


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, with taking more risks, the poor end up hurting themselves


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
services that I don't want and sports that I don't give a fuck about


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They essentially kill themselves or become rich, most don't become rich.


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I just want a degree


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This creates huge societal problems.


[25-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, wealth inequality in and of itself needs to be takkled


[25-Mar-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means pulling a Robin Hood


[25-Mar-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hate being taxed, but...tuff cookies.


[25-Mar-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
college sports is a fucking disgrace


[25-Mar-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
at least athletes can get paid now


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
When did taxes start to be seen as a bad thing anyway


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
When supply-side economics came in


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're necessary


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Around Nixon


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Reagan


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan thought he could balance the budget and cut taxes


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it didn't work


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sure it's not convenient to hand money over to the government but it's essential that you do


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives increasingly don't think gov't should provide services


[25-Mar-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well duh that's not how the budget works ._.


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
they then say that if they cut those services, they wouldn't need to tax, like, anything


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You can't spend more and tax less and get a balanced budget


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
MEANWHILE THE MILITARY BUDGET IS GIGANTIC


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supply-side economics says you can


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's super wrong.


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been proven wrong regularly.


[25-Mar-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
China owns the US debt lol


[25-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
actually the US owns the US's debt


[25-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Demand-side economics worked pretty well until OPEC happened.


[25-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
most of our debt is SS and medicare


[25-Mar-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jimmy Carter failing is basically why conservatives took over.


[25-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Carter would've been a great president if he hadn't gotten all the shit from the embessy thing


[25-Mar-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't help that Bill Clinton got a chance to fix things and big pharma shot healthcare reform dead


[25-Mar-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Then Clinton actually started balancing the budget


[25-Mar-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Then Bush said "lol what the fuck is a balanced budgetchamathang"


[25-Mar-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
pie in the sky


[25-Mar-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], apparently one thing that the US's crazy brand of conservative libertarians like to say is that china can just call in our debt at any time and buy our land out from under us


[25-Mar-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
the only comment I ever make in response to that is "I'd love to see them try to enforce THAT"


[25-Mar-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
the US could literally fight the entire world at once and win


[25-Mar-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, any country with that many nukes probably could


[25-Mar-19 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
China is actually pretty crap with nukes


[25-Mar-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was thinking more Russia


[25-Mar-19 04:26 AM] Honahue#0656
the Soviet Sino split really fucked them


[25-Mar-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/EKfvepim7rE

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https://youtu.be/EKfvepim7rE
The Political Compass will get you lost
A somewhat thorough tutorial on how to virtue signal, letting your peergroup know you are a cuck. Milton Friedman is bad at prose, and great at propaganda. A...
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[25-Mar-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/13/they-were-socialist-invader.html

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Ruben Bolling
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/13/they-were-socialist-invader.html
They were... Socialist Invaders from the Future!
Tom the Dancing Bug, IN WHICH scary Socialists from 2019 invade the 1950s to spread their evil brand of radical collectivism.
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[25-Mar-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1429cbCOMIC-socialists-from-the-future.jpg

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[25-Mar-19 01:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/edkrassen/status/1109983234656333824?s=21

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Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen)
https://twitter.com/edkrassen/status/1109983234656333824?s=21
Dear Republicans,

Imagine if Hillary Clinton used WhatsApp to communicate with Osama bin Laden while she was Secretary of State.

Now stop being cowards and stand up to the Trump administration already!
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[25-Mar-19 03:21 PM] mailman#1335
Путин хуйло


[25-Mar-19 03:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:pandapolice:


[25-Mar-19 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
I don’t speak Russian but I translate what you said it was funny as shit


[25-Mar-19 03:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47692099

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Rich German family firm reveals Nazi slave past
The Reimanns - big investors in popular consumer brands - discover dark links to the Nazi period.
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[25-Mar-19 04:04 PM] illumnious#7938
:caddy:


[25-Mar-19 04:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Yeah it’s kinda interesting to read


[25-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, have you considered that maybe mueller was forced to end the investigation early by barr?


[25-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Crow#5457
saw a comment on this article which came up with that idea https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/435586-supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-mystery-grand-jury-fight

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Supreme Court refuses to hear mystery grand jury fight
The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear an appeal from a mystery company over a grand jury subpoena tied to special counsel Robert Mueller’s now completed Russia probe.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert_061913getty.jpg


[25-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
because apparently the investigation had 6 more months of funding


[25-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe


[25-Mar-19 06:25 PM] Honahue#0656
Reminder that Chelsea Manning is in jail for refusing to testify in front of a grand jury


[25-Mar-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
"What are amendment rights?"


[25-Mar-19 07:00 PM] Honahue#0656
Non existent in front of a grand jury


[25-Mar-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
oh


[25-Mar-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I forgot that the 5th excludes that


[25-Mar-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
... but it excludes the exclusion


[25-Mar-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
` unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces`


[25-Mar-19 07:05 PM] Honahue#0656
She was in the army and it involves WikiLeaks so maybe that's why


[25-Mar-19 07:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1110242521400123394?s=21

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Today, it was my great honor to welcome Prime Minister @Netanyahu of Israel back to the @WhiteHouse where I signed a Presidential Proclamation recognizing Israel’s sovereignty over the Golan Heights. Read more: https://t.co/yAAyR2Hxe4 https://t.co/gWp6nwRwsY
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[25-Mar-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
okay no


[25-Mar-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
she was subpoenaed in a criminal case against Julian Assange/Wikileaks by a grand jury


[25-Mar-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
refused to testify and was held in contempt


[25-Mar-19 07:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ric_oshay/status/1110242795892154374?s=21

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@realDonaldTrump @netanyahu @WhiteHouse Russia... if you’re listening
do you remember when
Donald Judas Trump
asked you to spy
on an American
on national TV
and you did?
If not... we remember.
Lock Traitor Trump Up!
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[25-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47697647

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Apple debuts own credit card and TV shows
The tech giant confirmed that it was branching out into personal finance and TV streaming at a live event in the US.
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[25-Mar-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The dystopia just keeps getting worse


[25-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
how long before every person is required ot have an apple branded to their forehead


[25-Mar-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
or a G


[25-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
or a W


[25-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
or an A


[25-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
(amazon's had its own credit card for forever though)


[25-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
it looks much better than that white piece of shit though


[25-Mar-19 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's "normal" for large stores to have their own credit cards


[25-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
This cyberpunk dystopia sucks


[25-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
Our megacorps have dumb names and people don't dress cool and the drugs are boring


[25-Mar-19 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But Apple... Apple credit to pay for your apple device to play apple games and watch apple tv shows while you finance your house through your apple bank


[25-Mar-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[25-Mar-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Instead of cool spikes and neon and biomechanical limbs


[25-Mar-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We got Apple's white simplistic nothingness


[25-Mar-19 07:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No edges at all


[25-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't know apple had that much gaming other than mobile lol


[25-Mar-19 07:40 PM] Honahue#0656
Apple prosthetics will be a thing


[25-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Honahue#0656
iPay with my iArm


[25-Mar-19 07:41 PM] Honahue#0656
Then the firmware updates and it loses grip strength


[25-Mar-19 07:44 PM] Honahue#0656
Or it refuses to stop strangling you till you upgrade


[25-Mar-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and you require apple credits to enter your apple ihome


[25-Mar-19 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/25/politics/michael-avenatti/index.html

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Michael Avenatti charged with trying to extort more than $20 milli...
Federal prosecutors in Manhattan on Monday charged lawyer Michael Avenatti with attempting to extort more than $20 million from Nike.
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[25-Mar-19 08:04 PM] illumnious#7938
<:GWchadThonkery:366999788803325952> I don’t trust it...oh wait I don’t think it’s going to be available for the Bahamas


[25-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1109318899005296647

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[25-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/mkdka601/status/1109486244461858821


[25-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🎮 ***ThE 🎮 fUtUrE 🎮 oF 🎮  gAmInG*** 🎮


[25-Mar-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gross


[25-Mar-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just want to shiv whores in dark allies in open world games :<


[25-Mar-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point I've actually seen people who basically will not accept anything less than a generic supermodel for every woman in a game


[25-Mar-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, an unattractive woman in a game is now a political statement


[25-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>reports you to discord trust and safety for being a shitlord


[25-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Hey this guy is being a shitlord can you deplatform him"
"Um Actually the term 's\*\*\*lord' is offensive and toxic, therefore your account has been terminated"


[25-Mar-19 09:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Samus is somewhat attractive c:


[25-Mar-19 09:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
EPIC GAMER MOMENTS STRICTLY PROHIBITED


[26-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzCEhAZ9e28

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Knowing Better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzCEhAZ9e28
Demystifying American Taxes
It's tax season here in America, so it's time to procrastinate and complain about how complicated they are. Luckily, if you have a basic understanding of mat...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vzCEhAZ9e28/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhahahah


[26-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vid starts by saying taxes aren't that complicated


[26-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 minutes in and I feel like I'm watching a video about what full-flow staged combustion means again.


[26-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, I fukking think it is *that* complicated mate, you literally said that there's a bunch of tables involved that I don't get to look at so I hav to just wait for the first paychekk


[26-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that in Australia they'd just tell me the number.


[26-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I don't think this video is trying to be biased but like


[26-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are at a point now where just talking about American stuff requires almost an outright lie at the beginning that it's not that bad so people don't just turn away and not listen.


[26-Mar-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's probably purposefully as complicated as possible nowadays so you need a dedicated person in order to figure it all out for you


[26-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that it's an incredibly well-paying profession if you're good at it


[26-Mar-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's like being like a lawyer without the expensive college and basic code of ethics required


[26-Mar-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
you can start out doing taxes for the middle class, then if you get good enough and lucky enough, get snagged up as the personal accountant of a billionaire in which your sole purpose is to overblow every little tax deduction as much as possible, up to the point of outright lying about everything


[26-Mar-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dude just use H and R Block that makes doing taxes easy as hell.


[26-Mar-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know why anyone complains.


[26-Mar-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
My sister was a tax person for H&R


[26-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
not sure if sarcasm or not lol


[26-Mar-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
considering that's literally what anyone who makes more than $60k a year says


[26-Mar-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
H&R is free. To a certain income level and age bracket.


[26-Mar-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like most of us can use it for free no problem.


[26-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
if it's free, how does it make money?


[26-Mar-19 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
By charging the people over their minimum income level and age limit


[26-Mar-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is the age limit?


[26-Mar-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1536

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Billion Dollar Scam: Why you should play the lottery instead of go...


[26-Mar-19 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
But if you're someone like me, who just rents a home and has no homes there's no priority to any special home owner credits.


[26-Mar-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Billion Dollar Scam: Why you should play the lottery instead of going to H&R Block


[26-Mar-19 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) I think like, 65


[26-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
is this temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome?


[26-Mar-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good thing i;m not 65 then


[26-Mar-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[26-Mar-19 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ouch


[26-Mar-19 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can feel the FACTS and LOGIC slowly seeping into my bodily orifices and then pwning me


[26-Mar-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Giuliani's on TV right now talking about Barr's letter and I just *can't*


[26-Mar-19 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so I gotta know, if Barr/Trump claim executive privilege or whatever to ignore the unanimous call for the report to be made public, and we just have their word to go on, what happens next


[26-Mar-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are going to lose 2020 at this point.


[26-Mar-19 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean I don't know that I'd make so bold of a claim


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
No matter what the particulars are


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
If the Mueller reports stays private I'm using it to claim there's a portal to Equestria in the Pentagon


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's going to be a bunch of drama followed by "an unexpected blue wave"


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm not talking about the presidency


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was lost in 2017


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a question of who takes the Senate in 2020


[26-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Republicans basically killed their chances of winning it in January


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hav since been digging their grave deeper


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Looking at the about-face the MAGA crowd made on Mueller in the last 48 hours because "he proved no collusion" I'm really not sure there's going to be that disillusionment now


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
then again that's probably 80% bots atm but


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their only legislative accomplishment has been to make middle America no longer feel lotto-winning on tax day.


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of thing kills a party dead.


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The MAGA crowd is irrelevant


[26-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
independents determine elections.


[26-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump ran out of swampdrainium credits in 2017


[26-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell now is looking like an asshat too


[26-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats might be able to win by quoting McCain


[26-Mar-19 02:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yeah, *to us*


[26-Mar-19 02:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm looking at the last week from the other side right now and the only word I've got is "vindication." How do we, in the short term, combat the gaslighting


[26-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't


[26-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everybody made up their mind about the report 6 months ago.


[26-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents are going to vote based on which party they see destroying the economy and their jobs


[26-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's Republicans right now.


[26-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This will be an early litmus test https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/us/north-carolina-special-election-house-ninth.html

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North Carolina Sets New Date for Redo Election in Congressional Ho...
Less than two weeks after regulators found misconduct in November’s balloting, state officials scheduled a start-to-finish redo in the Ninth Congressional District.
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[26-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's effectively a full redo of the 2018 midterm for that seat


[26-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause of the Republican voter fraud.


[26-Mar-19 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-N9blnqOcw

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Secret Territorial Increasers
( STIs)..
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[26-Mar-19 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1110362981756555264?s=21

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A team of great champions! https://t.co/Pm5p9L6TaX
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[26-Mar-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
You know Trump has actually called for the full and public release of the report as well


[26-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I know I'd like the full release as well


[26-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Hamberders!


[26-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same


[26-Mar-19 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There was also a unanimous vote for it so


[26-Mar-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
let's just hope Pelosi actually stands by her word and rejects a classified release


[26-Mar-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(I'd be a tiny bit surprised if Barr didn't redact stuff from a public release anyway, but as a reminder the Starr report was released with every tiny bit of incriminating detail clear and present)


[26-Mar-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mcconnell-blocks-schumer-effort-call-public-release-mueller-report-n987261

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McConnell blocks Schumer effort to call for public release of Muel...
The non-binding measure had unanimously passed the House earlier this month, 420-0.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_13/2798631/190325-mitch-mcconnell-ac-621p_c4aa9fcf8f782e4c4be0c7b7f0709d16.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, how about that mcconnell tho?


[26-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's not even binding


[26-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Honahue#0656
>non binding
Well good luck with that


[26-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's posturing


[26-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
"oh yeah we'll tooootally release it"


[26-Mar-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
very few republicans would vote for a full release of the report in both the house and senate if it were binding


[26-Mar-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What exactly was McConnell's plan here other than to take the fall


[26-Mar-19 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause if he's trying to groom himself as the scapegoat of the senate he is succeeding *spectacularly*


[26-Mar-19 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
he's old and his state will never vote him out


[26-Mar-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or is he actually just pulling a Palpatine here and going I AM THE SENATE again


[26-Mar-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might vote him out at this rate.


[26-Mar-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
I heard kentuckians are pissed as fuck at him atm


[26-Mar-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He is doing a fantastic job of showing just how much power's been concentrated on the majority leader, though. I kinda hope they go beyond just voting him out


[26-Mar-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
because he's doing the same thing that the previous democrat majority leader did with sitting on important shit instead of letting congress work


[26-Mar-19 05:02 AM] Honahue#0656
in some ways senators are more powerful than the president


[26-Mar-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in general, yes, but it really does seem like McConnell's ability to just render the other senators irrelevant is a catastrophic failure of the system


[26-Mar-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it feels liekt here shoudl be failsafes put in place but nope, apparently not


[26-Mar-19 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like a certain limit on how many bills can be blocked with consequences if too many get walled out


[26-Mar-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, there's nothing even in the constitution about the position of "senate majority leader" in the first place


[26-Mar-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's something that started in the 20s


[26-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, you can tell that the founding fathers had no concept of corporations


[26-Mar-19 05:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And they were very averse to the idea of parties


[26-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
then immediately went and founded parties


[26-Mar-19 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So now I'm kinda wondering what the VP even does in practice now, besides sitting in the dark eating corn flakes and graham crackers to dispel thoughts about the gays™


[26-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the first two parties were each founded by a founding father


[26-Mar-19 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay so apparently the VP is now largely acting in the executive branch, thanks wikipedia. And thanks to a loophole, if Pence were impeached there's nothing really stopping him from presiding over his own impeachment trial??


[26-Mar-19 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's confusing


[26-Mar-19 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, the VP presides over impeachments except when it's the president, but notably no mention is made over what happens if the VP's impeached


[26-Mar-19 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does mcconnell become president if both trump and pence are impeached?


[26-Mar-19 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In the case that the president can no longer serve, the vice president would serve as president. If the vice president cannot serve, the line of succession falls to the speaker of the House, then to the Senate president pro tempore, then to Cabinet members.


[26-Mar-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if trump and pence fall thne we get nancy pelosi as president...


[26-Mar-19 05:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Ideally we would make like Iceland and fire them all and rewrite the constitution


[26-Mar-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just do that?


[26-Mar-19 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but with actuall fire?


[26-Mar-19 05:21 AM] Honahue#0656
techincaly yes


[26-Mar-19 05:22 AM] Honahue#0656
but America is in the sweet spot of oppression where things suck but not so much that enough people want to change it through revolution


[26-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Honahue#0656
most revolutions kick off when the people are either going to die or have a revolution. when your options are certain death or maybe death they tend to choose the latter


[26-Mar-19 05:28 AM] Honahue#0656
The American Revolution was one that wasn't that way I wonder how many others in history have been


[26-Mar-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno. Ask the british empire


[26-Mar-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
I think the american revolution was mainly because the british were housing so many troops in peoples' houses


[26-Mar-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
and taxes of course, but that was likely a relatively small part


[26-Mar-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
The American colonies had the smallest taxes of all the British colonies. New England in particular had a particularly profound level of economic independence and other parts of the colonies were occupied by people basically rebels to the crown already; ex the Puritans of New England and Quackers of Pennsylvania.


[26-Mar-19 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
The merchant aristocracy of the colonies also felt sperned by the British and less they were being disproportionally treated compared to even England itself; though representation certainly would have had an effect. But for people like Washington and Jefferson they felt ignored and second class compared to the British by their factors who were trusted to change the commodities they produced into cash and to be turned to stuff they want; clothes, carriages, chinaware that the planter and elite class always felt they were getting in an inferior quality. The strict control mercantilism demanded from politics restricted a rapidly growing America which was getting to a point it would surpass England.


[26-Mar-19 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the Planter class and such wanted to expand beyond Appalachia, but couldn't because of treaties the Natives had with the King who was intent on following those treaties to counter the presence of rivals on the American continent; the French, Spanish.


[26-Mar-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
the Stamp Tax meant that anyone working in publishing, law, or anything dealing with paper got taxed and those people also tended towards wealth and influence


[26-Mar-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
counter them how?


[26-Mar-19 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
By not violating every treaty they made, maybe?


[26-Mar-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
the Army and colonial conscripts


[26-Mar-19 06:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Counter as in be a political buffer between the French and Spanish that could be armed and act as a territorial barrier.


[26-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump and Pence go down together, Nancy Pelosi becomes president


[26-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Chuck Grassley after her


[26-Mar-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell is not in the succession list


[26-Mar-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it uses President Pro Tempore, not Speaker, for the Senate.


[26-Mar-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
(whoever has been a Senator the longest in its majority party)


[26-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if the longest-serving senator was the house majority leader


[26-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0912/which-income-class-are-you.aspx

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Which Income Class Are You?
Which income class do you belong to – and what defines the different classes?
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[26-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/wRll55zIm7u-R90LmhM57TmUf_Y=/891x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/top1percent-5bfd854646e0fb005183898c

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https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/wRll55zIm7u-R90LmhM57TmUf_Y=/891x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/top1percent-5bfd854646e0fb005183898c


[26-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
top 1% income share always skyrockets whenever there's widespread financial problems


[26-Mar-19 01:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
aaaaaaaaaaaand article 13 just went through


[26-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Macarou#9574
Damn, that is a horrible shame.


[26-Mar-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that figures


[26-Mar-19 02:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110509970213294081

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[26-Mar-19 02:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Time to start the unelection campaign


[26-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
allxit when?


[26-Mar-19 03:07 PM] RYDE#8862
Article 13 just went through?


[26-Mar-19 03:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
11 is way dumber


[26-Mar-19 03:18 PM] RYDE#8862
What's article 11?


[26-Mar-19 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Need to pay to link news articles


[26-Mar-19 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That means Discord will have to, at the very least, block embeds from news sites


[26-Mar-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole thing is centered around some EU politicians' owned by record/copyright companies hatred of Google


[26-Mar-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So they're going after Google News and Youtube


[26-Mar-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And willing to take the rest of the net down with them


[26-Mar-19 03:21 PM] Crow#5457
that just means that google news and youtube won't be available in the EU


[26-Mar-19 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One could wish


[26-Mar-19 03:22 PM] RYDE#8862
Well that's just peachy yet dumb.


[26-Mar-19 03:24 PM] RYDE#8862
If I was a European guy, I would leave the EU to just watch YouTube with my head held high.


[26-Mar-19 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
nah, just get a VPN


[26-Mar-19 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
there's tons of free VPNs


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Free VPNs are trash


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
there's a couple that are great according to torrentfreak


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They cause no end of headaches to us, Crow


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every little shit out there uses free VPNs


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At the same time as legit users


[26-Mar-19 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every day I get a dozen emails from people asking why they were banned


[26-Mar-19 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the answer is always "Because you're using a free proxy/VPN"


[26-Mar-19 03:27 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, just because they cause problems for certain people doesn't mean that they're trash lol


[26-Mar-19 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
or do you mean like there's a limit on the IP addresses that a free VPN can use?


[26-Mar-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course there's a limit


[26-Mar-19 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
instead of being able to appear in the middle of africa or something


[26-Mar-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's why one shitbird getting banned on a site means 1000 other people using that VPN are also banned


[26-Mar-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's shit for the 1000 legit users and shit for the people that need to deal with 1000 clueless angry users demanding an explanation for the completely mysterious reason they were banned


[26-Mar-19 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile the shitbird just has to switch to another VPN and repeat


[26-Mar-19 03:31 PM] RYDE#8862
Honestly I did use my VPN before and I got banned once. But I'm not a shitbird.


[26-Mar-19 03:32 PM] soundtea#9032
that's nice and all, but others do


[26-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta love contrarians who say this will be fine


[26-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When they rely on reviewing content made by companies


[26-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Torr#5078
“Archive. An idiot and a degenerate. J. Stalin.”
https://www.marxist.com/letter-to-stalin-can-a-homosexual-be-in-the-communist-party.htm xd

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Letter to Stalin: “can a homosexual be in the Communist Party?”
We reproduce here a letter that Harry Whyte (a British Communist Party member) wrote to Stalin in May 1934, in which Whyte posed the question: “can a homosexual be considered someone worthy of membership in the Communist Party?”. At the time, Whyte (himself homosexual) wa...
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[26-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im not gonna read this crap


[26-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i need short answer yes or no


[26-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[26-Mar-19 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok


[26-Mar-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
that's the thing


[26-Mar-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
you never want authoritarians in charge


[26-Mar-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
they will take whatever great leap of progress you've made and burn it down to the ground


[26-Mar-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-police-chief-slam-prosecutors-dropping-jussie-n987566

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Chicago mayor, police chief slam prosecutors for dropping Jussie S...
"This is a whitewash of justice," Emanuel said.
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[26-Mar-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
why the fuck


[26-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
did they drop all the charges


[26-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
he shouldn't have been destroyed with the 30+ years he was being threatened with


[26-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
but he definitely should've been forced to plead guilty


[26-Mar-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
and get some probation


[26-Mar-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
>Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said the department was blindsided by the Cook County State's Attorney's Office's decision to no longer press a case against Smollett for allegedly faking a hate-crime attack.


[26-Mar-19 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wonder if it had soemthing to do with a 10k bribe


[26-Mar-19 09:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
just remember Europe will collapse


[26-Mar-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
didn't you promise to stay out of here


[26-Mar-19 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/26/gop-congressman-quotes-hitlers-mein-kampf-slam-trumps-adversaries-liars/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7e290fa50242


[26-Mar-19 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
WashPo paywall so open in Incognito mode


[26-Mar-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
blocking a single script with umatrix has made it free for me for years lol


[26-Mar-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least they should've fined the guy and put him on probation


[26-Mar-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
like wtf


[26-Mar-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Faking a police report and everything is a big deal


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it was premeditated.


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no no, Discord won't hav to pay to link things


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
he did get fined $10k apparently


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it'd hav to pay to show the link preview


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
so Discord would hav to just not do previews on any sites it thinks are news sites


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
which is literally pennies to him


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is fukking bullshit that separates out news sites


[26-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and effectively penalizes being categorized as such


[26-Mar-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[26-Mar-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In theory I could describe the contents of an article and link it


[26-Mar-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
but if I so much as quote one paragraph the EU wants me to pay up


[26-Mar-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a complete slap in the face of the very concept of Fair Use


[26-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then there's Article 13 (now 17) https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b2b605b1ae6621d008b543e-750-563.jpg

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[26-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is accurate


[26-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It lets you do memes, but like, it burdens sites so they hav to go full content ID


[26-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means if a meme used copyrighted stuff, then RIP


[26-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the EU is taking a giant dump on Fair Use


[26-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
A giant, steaming, lava dump


[26-Mar-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
In part because HAHAH SCREW YOU US WE CAN DO OUR OWN COPYRIGHT [THAT ACTUALLY RUNS ALL SMALL SITES OUT OF BUSINESS PERMANENTLY]


[26-Mar-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only sites that will hav the money to be compliant with this bullshit will be the huge ones.


[26-Mar-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're going to essentially cripple EU news and media


[26-Mar-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
in favor of Google and Apple


[26-Mar-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
while shaking money out of both


[26-Mar-19 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
This entire thing got started because Axel Springer (DE) was mad about Google News


[26-Mar-19 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
They have now sentenced the company to death


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no no


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Google News won't be hurt by this much at all


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll just be slightly milked by the EU while crushing their local news


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I think he means Axel Springer


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
But any small news aggregators


[26-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
will absolutely die


[26-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer_SE

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Axel Springer SE
Axel Springer SE is the largest digital publishing house in Europe, with numerous multimedia news brands, such as Bild, Die Welt, and Fakt and more than 15,000 employees. It generated total revenues of about €3.3 billion and an EBITDA of €559 million in the financial year...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Front_entrance_to_Axel_Springer_headquarters_in1977_West_Berlin.jpg/1200px-Front_entrance_to_Axel_Springer_headquarters_in1977_West_Berlin.jpg


[26-Mar-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah that's gonna die


[26-Mar-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
they basically killed themselves lmao


[26-Mar-19 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
yup


[26-Mar-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
clearly, they didn't want google to link to them


[26-Mar-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
okay, no problem


[26-Mar-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
rip axel springer


[26-Mar-19 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so the internet has broken copyright and vice versa. Let's go to the land of make-believe and travel back in the past to destroy the Golden Throne of copyright powered by Emperor Disney's cryogenically frozen body, and redo copyright from scratch so that it works in the age of remix culture and global information


[26-Mar-19 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, just doing away with it altogether gives us China's situation more or less...and I don't see CC or GPL being viable for everything either


[26-Mar-19 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what does that future look like


[26-Mar-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
everyone casually breaks the law because there is no reasonable alternative


[26-Mar-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember when "Breaking News" mean a plane just crashed or a dam just broke and there's something urgent happening?


[26-Mar-19 11:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And not "some guy checked google or looked up some docs at the public library"


[26-Mar-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Breaking news: We learned something that;s not actually breaking news, but since it;s new to us, it is!"


[26-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
"Breaking news: Caw."


[26-Mar-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's also probably not even real news as this kind of news is brekaing out all over the place saying different people bribed the attorney


[26-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yb_VA4L3YU

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KTVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yb_VA4L3YU
Bird photobombs weather report
A curious bird photobombed Mark Tamayo KTVU's weather report
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[26-Mar-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/barr-mueller-report-white-house-executive-privilege-2019-3

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The White House will get the Mueller report before the public does...
Trump's lawyers have previously said they want a chance to review and "correct" the Mueller report before it's made public.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c9a633cdc67676a4978d6c7-1536-768.jpg


[26-Mar-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[26-Mar-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta make sure Barr's summary matches what gets put out


[26-Mar-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
by altering it to match.


[26-Mar-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
... https://boingboing.net/2019/03/26/jfc-fml-jfc.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2019/03/26/jfc-fml-jfc.html
Article 13 will wreck the internet because Swedish MEPs accidental...
Article 13 will wreck the internet because Swedish MEPs accidentally pushed the wrong voting button
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1JJDL6DqSLp4iEmPGTBpydA.png


[26-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...*are you FUCKING kidding me*


[26-Mar-19 11:32 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"We want to regulate the Internet™ but what are buttons lol"


[26-Mar-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
vote was still very lopsided for the "yes" faction, though, i doubt a few more noes would change anything


[26-Mar-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
still dumb as hecc tho


[26-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
no


[26-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They need to question their existences


[26-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
if they had voted correctly, there would've been discussion


[26-Mar-19 11:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Like, "haha why are you alive"


[26-Mar-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
>The EU Copyright Directive was voted through with a sizeable majority, but when it came to the question of whether to allow a vote on amendments, the motion was defeated by a margin of just five votes. If the plenary session in Strasbourg had approved the vote, there’d have been a chance to delete controversial Articles 11 and 13 from the Directive.


[26-Mar-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh.


[26-Mar-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wow.


[26-Mar-19 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, guess Europeans are gonna have to get used to Tumblr style porn censorship being more widespread, i guess.


[26-Mar-19 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ban sweden


[26-Mar-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking dammit


[26-Mar-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is there no way to force a revote? ffs


[26-Mar-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that seems liek soemthing that shoudl force a revote


[26-Mar-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
nop


[26-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sweden cost us our freedom


[26-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking sweden


[26-Mar-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/prescription_fraud/alleged-heath-benefits-fraud-ringleader-can-go-to-disney-judge/article_9e5a8d62-bacc-5bcd-b277-c349763bf9dc.html?utm_c

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Alleged health benefits fraud ringleader can go to Disney, judge rules
CAMDEN — A Northfield woman charged in the ongoing $50 million health benefits fraud case may take her son to Walt Disney World, a federal judge ruled Monday.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/7d/b7dbac14-63d4-5c97-a5c8-6755e7de84ba/5c8b996469169.image.jpg?crop=1763%2C992%2C0%2C91&resize=1120%2C630&order=crop%2Cresize


[26-Mar-19 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i read "can go to disney" and almost interpreted it as disney buying the woman


[26-Mar-19 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
disney's voring everything right now


[26-Mar-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney's new line of herbal healthcare frauds will brign delight to you and your family


[26-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She should just be stripped for parts and given to needful people on the transplant list, but that's just imo


[26-Mar-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
and emo


[27-Mar-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr is only making it worse


[27-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"It completely exonerates Trump! Trust me you guys, you don't need to read it..."


[27-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even he said it didn't


[27-Mar-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
what did he do now


[27-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just doesn't want anyone to look at the parts about obstruction


[27-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he and Rosenstein said that in their opinion it wasn't even after Mueller said not exonerated


[27-Mar-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So he wants no second opinions


[27-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/us/politics/national-emergency-vote.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/us/politics/national-emergency-vote.html
House Fails to Override Trump’s Veto, Preserving National Emerge...
The 248-to-181 vote fell short of the two-thirds majority needed, shifting the fight over the president’s emergency declaration to the courts.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/26/us/26dc-cong/26dc-cong-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Mar-19 12:06 AM] RYDE#8862
No second opinions huh?


[27-Mar-19 12:08 AM] RYDE#8862
Ok this national emergency is already a complete joke


[27-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706905757/bump-stock-ban-takes-effect-as-gun-rights-groups-ask-supreme-court-for-delay

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Bump Stock Ban Takes Effect As Gun Rights Groups Ask Supreme Court...
Anyone selling or owning bump stocks could face up to 10 years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000. The devices are now classified as machine guns.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/03/26/bump-stocks-guns_wide-74a7898e439ba08b9895e48be77a426629d1505f.jpg?s=1400


[27-Mar-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
they failed to get a delay


[27-Mar-19 12:10 AM] RYDE#8862
Which failed to get a delay?


[27-Mar-19 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
bump stock ban


[27-Mar-19 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the point


[27-Mar-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Posturing, giving people the impression lawmakers care and do things


[27-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
because bump stocks let you get an incredibly deadly weapon for relative pennies


[27-Mar-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
they might not be accurate, but they're much, much more deadly with the bump stock than without


[27-Mar-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so a bump stock basically takes it from manual trigger to auto trigger


[27-Mar-19 12:14 AM] Honahue#0656
that's generally true of full auto anyway, you use FA to make people duck sometimes they get shot too


[27-Mar-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I meant what's the point of the delay


[27-Mar-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[27-Mar-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody wants these things except total nutcases


[27-Mar-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the NRA is run by total nutcases


[27-Mar-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the mroe guns and peripherals are ont he market the more cash they get


[27-Mar-19 12:15 AM] Honahue#0656
eh, most people that aren't looking to kill a bunch of peple use bumpstocks for fun cause there is something fun about putting a bunch of bullets down range in a hurry. but those same people are also expecting to live for a while longer so doing that is expensive


[27-Mar-19 12:18 AM] Honahue#0656
of course that's the difference though, someone willing to die doesn't care if a magazine is $20 down the drain


[27-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2hqnetXQAULa2T.jpg:large

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[27-Mar-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Normal!


[27-Mar-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And here's something to start discussion


[27-Mar-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Translation of the current leaders of the Democratic primary to MLP characters, in order: Flim and Flam, Quibble Pants, Spike, Starswirl

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Isaac Butler (@parabasis)
https://twitter.com/parabasis/status/1110550172306530309
People of twitter, I now present to you my helpful addition to the discourse... the 2020 Presidential Candidates as My Little Pony characters...
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[27-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd reply with "suck my dick you orange toad licker", but that's just me


[27-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's fun


[27-Mar-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most are kinda accurate tbh


[27-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was talking about the letter to the media


[27-Mar-19 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ain't nobody got time to care about dem primaries at this point


[27-Mar-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who even are any of those people?


[27-Mar-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh right


[27-Mar-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd just say "no"


[27-Mar-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems a bit heavy handed


[27-Mar-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the current rank is Flim and Flam, then Quibble Pants, then Spike, then Starswirl


[27-Mar-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still dont knwo who most of these democrats are


[27-Mar-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.eater.com/2019/3/26/18282783/pete-buttigieg-presidential-candidate-chick-fil-a

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https://www.eater.com/2019/3/26/18282783/pete-buttigieg-presidential-candidate-chick-fil-a
Gay Presidential Hopeful Pete Buttigieg Disagrees With Chick-fil-A...
The mayor of South Bend, Indiana had a thoughtful response to a question about the chain this morning
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[27-Mar-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First meme of 2020 campaign


[27-Mar-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Perfect


[27-Mar-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I approve 100%


[27-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I've had Chic Fila I don't get the appeal


[27-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Wendy's has pretty good chicken and don't fund antilgbt groups


[27-Mar-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where I work, Home Depot as a thing for funding groups like TPUSA. I hope the employee aid fund doesn't go into that. Time to do some quick research into that.


[27-Mar-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because I had an inkling sense of fear, "What if I'm paying Ben Shapiro by accident?"


[27-Mar-19 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Buy at Lowes


[27-Mar-19 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he works at the Heho Doot


[27-Mar-19 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw I've volunteered a dollar per paycheck to the employee assistance fund but now I'm worried that the company may also be using this for anything other than that.


[27-Mar-19 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's important to recognize where you have agency over this kind of thing. Not buying EA games because of obvious reasons? Fine. Realizing Nestle is a horrible company and not buying their bottled water, but also not getting upset if someone hands you a Butterfinger? Reasonable. Yelling at the poor high school kid working the register at Chick-Fil-A because their CEO is a homophobe? um


[27-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But wingbeat, you're teaching that little white nerd alt-righter shitlord what's what for signing up to work for Herr Cluck!


[27-Mar-19 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but she's black. And gay.


[27-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gasp!


[27-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
RACE TRAITOR


[27-Mar-19 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even worse!


[27-Mar-19 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[27-Mar-19 02:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y0Ggw87aMGDI36JIV98WRAfcC4hyI7EUsq2e3Ub7Bpo/edit#gid=1450753660

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Article 13 UK
Sheet1


For,Against,Abstain,Absent,Parties
31,30,0,11
Aker,Nuttal,Brexit Party
Bullock,Conservative Party
Coburn,Democratic Unionist Party
Etheridge,Green Party
Farage,Independent
Gill,Labour Party
Reid,Liberal Democrats
Bannerman,Dalton,Procter,Plaid Cymru
Bashir,Flack,Scot...
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[27-Mar-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/trump-obamacare-reversal-cabinet-1238359

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White House Obamacare reversal made over Cabinet objections
The heads of Trump's Justice Department and Health and Human Services Department opposed the unexpected switch in legal tactics.
https://static.politico.com/b7/bb/f92988384bfcb9e8c1980f299dc9/190326-azar-gty-773.jpg


[27-Mar-19 04:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wasn't today terrible *enough?*


[27-Mar-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"The Republican Party will soon be known as the party of health care," Trump told reporters in brief remarks during a visit with Senate Republicans on Capitol Hill Tuesday. "You watch."


[27-Mar-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party of no health care, more like.


[27-Mar-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, yesterday I wasn't convinced that Trump could've been completely in the dark about illegal dealings with Russia, but now? /s


[27-Mar-19 05:05 AM] RYDE#8862
The war against healthcare and I right?


[27-Mar-19 05:05 AM] RYDE#8862
*am


[27-Mar-19 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47715169

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47715169
US county declares measles emergency
Unvaccinated children are barred from public spaces after 153 cases in Rockland County, New York.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/5F09/production/_106192342_gettyimages-1033431926.jpg


[27-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
GOOD


[27-Mar-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe these idiotic anti-vaxxers will get it through their heads


[27-Mar-19 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll just homeschool


[27-Mar-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This shouldn't be considered political unless you think deciding that an autistic child is worse than a dead one is political


[27-Mar-19 06:12 AM] RYDE#8862
Hey @Itsthinking. Life is like the Twilight Zone.


[27-Mar-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senators-block-progressive-green-deal-proposal/story?id=61951547

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Senators block progressive Green New Deal proposal
Sen. Mitch McConnell's decision to hold a vote on the Green New Deal suffered a blistering rebuke from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/green-new-deal-aoc-02-gty-jc-190207_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[27-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So remember how McConnell completely tabled a voter reform bill? This time he immediately untabled the green deal so that it wouldn't get any polishing any committee so that the vote would be guaranteed to fail.


[27-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Tyler wilson#3769
Terribly sorry,but was she photoshoped


[27-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's using decisions on how to vote on things in order to strategically kill anything Dems propose that'd help the country.


[27-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no.


[27-Mar-19 06:57 AM] Tyler wilson#3769
Hm


[27-Mar-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/betsy-devos-grilled-congress-over-proposed-elimination-special-olympics-funding-n987751

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/betsy-devos-grilled-congress-over-proposed-elimination-special-olympics-funding-n987751
Betsy DeVos gets grilled in Congress over proposed elimination of ...
"What is it that we have a problem with, with children who are in special education?" a Democratic representative asked the education secretary.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_13/2800171/190326-betsy-devos-ac-822p_faf34d2a00826a720e458ee8230421ab.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Mar-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Genuinely wondering what level of reality these people operate on now. Pence has become a complete nonperson in parroting Trump as well


[27-Mar-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I'd have thought their ultimate political agenda was securing power for the future but it just seems like they're all gunning to be the most reviled


[27-Mar-19 07:28 AM] RYDE#8862
Betsy DeVos is part of the Bydo Empire. (R-type Reference) No special ED, No future these people like autism, right? @WingbeatPony


[27-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole deal is like, they don't listen to the other side or America at all for policy


[27-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav their idea of policy and implement it using whatever means they can


[27-Mar-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, it is a principle to not spend gov't money preventing starvation, but not a principle to not lie.


[27-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is actually a *good* strategy, but they're completely non-strategic right now.


[27-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They forgot to account for future elections.


[27-Mar-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Emboldened by Trump, they believe they can just axe everything and do exactly what they think is best.


[27-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
2020 campaigning is going to be super easy for Dems because of this.


[27-Mar-19 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what think tank in particular would've been upstream of defunding special ed?


[27-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Koch Brothers probably


[27-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not liking public involvement in sports


[27-Mar-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want that money to go instead to lowering taxes on corporations.


[27-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, as far as the education side


[27-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Republicans are big on private schools


[27-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically think on this matter that parents should personally fund their kid's special ed.


[27-Mar-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That money from the gov't could go to VOUCHERS, Wing


[27-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vouchers only given to the rich to go to rich schools.


[27-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
While blakks get bad private schools.


[27-Mar-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So whichever think tank is tied to private schools, particularly white ones.


[27-Mar-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Comey has just pointed out that **the entire point** of a special counsel is so policymakers don't decide whether they are put on trial or not.


[27-Mar-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump has obstructed not just the investigation, but they very system that could possibly work around him.


[27-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, if the founders glimpsed this future the constitution would look pretty different.


[27-Mar-19 09:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/-5F4IcS9wo8

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Friedrich von Uxküll
https://youtu.be/-5F4IcS9wo8
Mark Fisher - Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?
PDF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10IHboRX3ObKviln_Z-3pcyZFB05eM6__ mp3s, TXTs and eBook: https://mega.nz/#!1JhmSKJA!9qXk0vrAoEQ7FEcUOlyPqOjXL-gc4tRH8yw0...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-5F4IcS9wo8/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Mar-19 01:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/MCoSZbCb-fI

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WMAR-2 News
https://youtu.be/MCoSZbCb-fI
Students caught handing out 'N-word passes' at Potomac school
It's ranked one of the best schools of the country, and it's right here in Maryland, but now Winston Churchill High School is dealing with a racist incident.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MCoSZbCb-fI/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Mar-19 01:45 PM] DevField#5162
Disgusting.


[27-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Imo banning n word is just retarded


[27-Mar-19 02:56 PM] illumnious#7938
🤔


[27-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The N-Word Pass meme was meant to stay a meme


[27-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why would they bring this into real life and think it's funny; it's actually pretty sad how much absolute power we've given that word now.


[27-Mar-19 05:23 PM] ononim#8141
I can't believe I am vindicated in hating sweden (only of this hatred is born solely from them taking baltcks and finland in Grand Strategy games wich are, as everyone known, rightful Russian clay) because it cost me most option to emigrate to if shit hits the fan


[27-Mar-19 05:25 PM] RYDE#8862
I want to get off of this planet. I want to live in Equestria with Twilight Sparkle. I had enough of this nonsense.


[27-Mar-19 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's the whole point


[27-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
the modern system of humanity has been, whether purposefully or completely by accident, set up to make you the least likely to get violent about your shitty conditions


[27-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
you have all the escapes in the world into fantasy


[27-Mar-19 05:30 PM] RYDE#8862
That's true.


[27-Mar-19 05:31 PM] RYDE#8862
But I still disregard fantasy anyway.


[27-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477

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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47718477
Cardi B: Why I drugged and robbed men
The rapper says "I did what I had to do to survive" while working as a stripper before finding fame.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/293F/production/_106195501_gettyimages-1028997414.jpg


[27-Mar-19 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Lol k


[27-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gonintendo.com/stories/331750-kenichiro-takaki-shares-details-on-why-he-left-marvelous-claims#comments

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https://gonintendo.com/stories/331750-kenichiro-takaki-shares-details-on-why-he-left-marvelous-claims
Kenichiro Takaki shares details on why he left Marvelous, claims b...
A change that might impact Senran Kagura just a tad
https://gonintendo.com/system/stories/promo_images/000/331/750/original/PeachBallSenranKagura-17.jpg?1553685605


[27-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The accusations of racism are the weirdest part about this all


[27-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(by fans not the creator)


[27-Mar-19 07:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh great, Cardi B


[27-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/world/climate-change-greenland-glacier-growing-wxc-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/world/climate-change-greenland-glacier-growing-wxc-trnd/index.html
Greenland's most critical glacier is suddenly gaining ice, but tha...
Greenland's largest and most critical glacier, Jakobshavn, is gaining ice, according to NASA researchers. While this finding is surprising and temporarily good news for the glacier, the reason for the ice accumulation might spell disaster in the long run.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190326154852-02-jakobshavn-glacier-super-tease.jpg


[27-Mar-19 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're at the point now where I can't help but see the president giving out a posthumous *medal of honor* as being a distraction/deceit, based on the timing


[27-Mar-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Reprieves happen a lot, but you still have idiots like Trump who say "it's cold here in d.c. sure would love some of that global warming!"


[27-Mar-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Not realizing how fucking retarded he sounds


[27-Mar-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Especially to climate scientists who I think know a lot better than him


[27-Mar-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
But that's to be expected


[27-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump has a brain the size of a pea


[27-Mar-19 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/voOLqjZ.jpg

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https://imgur.com/voOLqjZ
10-year-old boy tortured to death by his mother &amp; stepfather. He had told his mom he “liked boys &amp; girls” shortly before his death, only increasing the abuse.
https://i.imgur.com/voOLqjZ.jpg


[27-Mar-19 09:39 PM] Mikey#7286
What the fuck


[27-Mar-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/man-charged-killing-boy-10-who-reportedly-came-out-gay-n887221

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Man charged with killing boy, 10, who reportedly came out as gay
Anthony Avalos died last week after a 911 call from his home. His mom's boyfriend was arrested, and some suspect that homophobia played a part in Anthony's death.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_26/2479601/180627-anthony-avalos-ac-517p_67a13818e1c81f61c99f13c182d6ef34.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Mar-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
months old but WHAT THE FUCK


[27-Mar-19 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey so random impossible thought moment. It's obvious McConnell is pushing the vote on GND to make sure it fails. What if we wake up tomorrow and some gay frogs chemtrail Congress and the President or whatever and the fast-tracked Green New Deal gets passed, as-is? Like, *just how unworkable* is it, really


[27-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't that it's unworkable


[27-Mar-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that without going thru committees, you can't secure the votes for it.


[27-Mar-19 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So the 70% tax and the extreme regulation changes, all of that, those things could actually be accomplished as easily as transitioning from incandescent to LED light bulbs?


[27-Mar-19 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause to me, the GND looked like the kind of thing where you ask for the impossible and 'compromise' your way down to what can realistically happen


[27-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it would be costly


[27-Mar-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
but nothing about it makes it impossible


[27-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that you'd never get the votes for it without at least making people in committees feel good


[27-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Realistically you'd amend the shit out of it until all it does is secure a regulatory framework and a few taxes.


[27-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The barriers to change are largely congress itself.


[27-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what do you think the 2020 matchup will be


[27-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
No fucking clue with the Dems. Of the candidates polling over a couple percent, I'm doubtful Harris, Warren, or Booker could pull it off, but it could be any of them.


[27-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
Trump for the Republicans, don't think anything will happen to him between now and then


[27-Mar-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
I heard they're gonna block any Republican from challenging him


[27-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
As for the 2020 I'm putting my money on Warren and Bernie before the primaries end


[27-Mar-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
But I have a feeling Warren will get the nomination


[27-Mar-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm still thinking Buttigieg could do it


[27-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
I appreciate Warren's politics, but she just seems like Bernie with more baggage to me at this point


[27-Mar-19 11:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
Buttigieg is still a long shot but has a better chance than some big establishment folks


[27-Mar-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Polling third so yeah


[27-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dark horsey


[27-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Litrojia#0612
Polling third in one state poll


[27-Mar-19 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Eh, I feel like he'll just be voted for because he's gay


[27-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
I like the guy, but I assume his current momentum will die off


[27-Mar-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody votes like that


[27-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Litrojia#0612
He's not a FiRsT gAy PrEz kind of candidate from what I've seen


[27-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[27-Mar-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he isn't a stereotype?


[27-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that state poll is Iowa my dude


[27-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
Doesn't seem like he makes a huge deal out of it, though obviously he gets asked about it a lot


[27-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[27-Mar-19 11:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'll wait for more polls for now


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Hilary had a lotta baggage too


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Remember?


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
Fair, she's got more of it than Warren


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
I feel like Warren will get it because the DNC will push her for being female


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Like Hilary


[27-Mar-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
And not because of any real qualities


[27-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
For a while, Harris seemed to be the identity politics candidate, but right now it seems up in the air


[27-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Harris doesn't have a chance if you ask me


[27-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Agreed


[27-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
I think they realized that and backed off


[27-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Litrojia#0612
Thank god, I don't like her


[27-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Though


[27-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Imagine if Buttgieg was elected


[27-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
The outrage from conservatives


[27-Mar-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
"God has forsaken this country!!!!!"


[27-Mar-19 11:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'm sure Republican congressmen would use him being gay as a reason to vote down his policies, not that they wouldn't anyways


[28-Mar-19 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Unless the Senate became a democratic majority as well


[28-Mar-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't mean the GOP wouldn't vote down Buttgieg's policies


[28-Mar-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
it just means it wouldn't stop said policies from passing anyway


[28-Mar-19 12:06 AM] Mikey#7286
True


[28-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
I'd love to see that tbh tho


[28-Mar-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
A gay president and a democratic majority Congress and a broken GOP that would have no choice but to take it up the ass


[28-Mar-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
Probably won't happen though


[28-Mar-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
that's pretty gay 2bh


[28-Mar-19 12:17 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[28-Mar-19 12:18 AM] Mikey#7286
~~can't say you wouldn't like it~~


[28-Mar-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[28-Mar-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18282738/theresa-may-prime-minister-resign-brexit

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Prime Minister Theresa May says she’ll resign if Parliament pass...
She made the announcement during a speech to Conservative Party members. But it’s still not clear her Brexit plan will pass on a third try.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/VMlb99mYG5ebfpIZy_GU0lDApQ4=/0x0:4480x2346/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/15988093/1132744090.jpg.jpg


[28-Mar-19 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Theresa May pulls a "David Cameron" making a mess and leaving it to someone else.


[28-Mar-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lel

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[28-Mar-19 01:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol what


[28-Mar-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They took Notch's name out of MC splash screen text


[28-Mar-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Notch went full fashie, so now his credits have been taken out of Minecraft.


[28-Mar-19 01:44 AM] Mikey#7286
That's kinda dumb tbh but oh well


[28-Mar-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.pcgamer.com/latest-minecraft-update-quietly-scrubs-references-to-notch/

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https://www.pcgamer.com/latest-minecraft-update-quietly-scrubs-references-to-notch/
Latest Minecraft update quietly scrubs references to Notch
No more "Made by Notch!" on the splash screen.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/nSrafjDSDuXSMPRgUDjRVf-1200-80.jpg


[28-Mar-19 01:44 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't find Minecraft fun anymore anyway


[28-Mar-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
He does act like a shithead these days though lol


[28-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He already started acting like Roseanne Barr.


[28-Mar-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody knows how someone will act once they no longer have to give any fucks


[28-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
I still follow him on Twitter for some reason


[28-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
I should change that cuz he picks a lot of fights


[28-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I am tired of the "washed up has been becomes edgy conservative to get attention" meme


[28-Mar-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
I followed him before he sold the game to MS


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate how PDP, who was once widely hated, said some random alt right shit and is now loved


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate how washed up celebrities try to be edgy by being conservative in Hollywood


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
I seriously doubt PDP is actually alt-right lol


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying it for attention


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
He just acts like he always has


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PDP?


[28-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
Except well


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
A bit more extreme


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
PewDiePie


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought people always hated him


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And only 12 year olds like him


[28-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I watched one full lets play episode ages ago and it was terribly annoying


[28-Mar-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well now edgy 20-somethings like him because he gives their talking heads a talking space on his channel.


[28-Mar-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Condemned 2 I think


[28-Mar-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only lets plays I find enjoyable are either super short, or stuff with 2+ people involved where they're more talking about random shit than the game


[28-Mar-19 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to subscribe to ChipCheezum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYWZAx9KbuA

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Super Mario Odyssey - Episode 16: You Blew Up My Wedding!
ALERT! ALERT! I said Mario's taint would be featured in episode 16.......... BUT I ACTUALLY MEANT EPISODE 17!!!! You can support us at https://www.patreon.co...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TYWZAx9KbuA/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Mar-19 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i like a few, clementj642, NintendoCapriSun, Brainscratch once in a while


[28-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Macarou#9574
BSC is so much fun, they're so silly and they always says funny, weird things!


[28-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
i mostly watch people like AVGN, Ahoy, Bellular, Top5s, gggmanlives, IHE, Jontron, Kurzagesagt, Larry Bundy, Limit Breakers, penguinz0, RTU, The Act Man, Vsauce and Dunkey


[28-Mar-19 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
those are the ones I regularly watch


[28-Mar-19 01:56 AM] Macarou#9574
I love watching Ahoy's videos on guns in video games, I've seen a few of Kurzagesagt's videos, and The Act Man is just so fun! I mainly watch BSC, FTCR, Some Ordinary Games, ReviewtechUSA, and  Super Best Friends play, as my regular youtube channels


[28-Mar-19 02:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://preview.redd.it/nsu7nvvclpo21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=fcc827eb22340b69026e2d5a6bfa7aa91cb9ed7f

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[28-Mar-19 02:32 AM] RYDE#8862
Not impressed with this guy's sign in this image.


[28-Mar-19 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/0s9j6s4xbqo21.jpg

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[28-Mar-19 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
fucking frogs


[28-Mar-19 02:38 AM] Macarou#9574
Why the hell is France so supportive of the bill?


[28-Mar-19 02:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
French leaders are all about the money. Google and facebook being made to pay their newspapers is what they want. More money for their newspapers and magazines means more money for them. Yellow vests are right to trash the place.


[28-Mar-19 02:43 AM] Macarou#9574
Well, France sounds like a dreadful place then, hopefully those protests lead to genuine, and significant change


[28-Mar-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
France is highly controlled by copyright interests


[28-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In France they do very strict TV and movie licensing


[28-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all of it gets dubbed over in French


[28-Mar-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to fight against cultural influences from other countries, especially English-speaking ones


[28-Mar-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they'd rather nuke memes than let memes become English.


[28-Mar-19 02:50 AM] Macarou#9574
Why are they fighting against outside cultural influence, and why the English ones specifically?


[28-Mar-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they hate England.


[28-Mar-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And their entire identity is built on language and, like, food


[28-Mar-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they don't hate the English for cultural reasons, and speak English, and the Americans are making baguettes, the French identity falls apart.


[28-Mar-19 02:54 AM] Macarou#9574
Well, that sounds very precarious, they should try to create a stronger cultural identity, if just speaking English and others making their food leaves them with nothing


[28-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah


[28-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they take such issue with the Syrians, btw


[28-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if you can't ban burkas from the beach, are you even French etc.?


[28-Mar-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had the same problem with Algeria


[28-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were great with it being a colony and then kinda got told that colonialism's not okay anymore


[28-Mar-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Charles de Gaulle said that it wasn't an option to make Algerians French cause then they'd just move to France and, like, *build mosques and speak Arabic*


[28-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of even one town becoming muslim was terrifying.


[28-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Macarou#9574
And now they are coming anyway. My, the French sure sound spooked, and a little silly


[28-Mar-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their greatest fear is that Star Trek The Next Generation becomes the future, basically


[28-Mar-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Data calls French a dead language in the first episode, to Picard, a Frenchman with an English accent)


[28-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Macarou#9574
But TNG Seems like such an amazing future. (I thought it was Data called it Archaic, need to rewatch the show)


[28-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, he called it dead


[28-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, it is, but it's not a French future.


[28-Mar-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a future where English wins.


[28-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, French is doomed.


[28-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has been since WWI


[28-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Macarou#9574
It's just a  matter of how long until it dies.


[28-Mar-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Africa's slowly ditching French cause language of the oppressors etc. and Asia has no interest in retaining it to begin with.


[28-Mar-19 03:02 AM] Macarou#9574
I can't imagine The Americas supporting it either, with only a small pocket in a part of Canada, then just English and Spanish mostly.


[28-Mar-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwODwwgE6rA

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[28-Mar-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
it's what they get for their wonky spelling


[28-Mar-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
eux shouldn't make an oo sound


[28-Mar-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
although Trek English should sound weird to us anyway cause it's about as removed from us as we are from Shakespeare


[28-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Macarou#9574
by TNG, it is the 2300's, if I remember the timeline correctly.


[28-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
TNG is 2370's


[28-Mar-19 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Online takes place in 2400's


[28-Mar-19 03:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Christ, almost the 25th century, yes, that is a long time removed from us. Can't imagine how English and other languages will have changed by then


[28-Mar-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe not quite Shakespeare different but at least Founding Fathers different


[28-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Macarou#9574
I'm trying to remember just how much English changed in the time since the Founding Fathers, but I just cannot remember much of anything, been too long since I tried to learn.


[28-Mar-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I know spelling wasn't really rigorous and they were a lot more verbose


[28-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Macarou#9574
I seem to remember that something about English vowels changed around this time


[28-Mar-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
it was also around the time that people where trying to Latinize English too


[28-Mar-19 03:17 AM] Macarou#9574
Now that is interesting, how far did these efforts reach? How much influence did this Latinization attempt have on English?


[28-Mar-19 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
I can't really say, there were two times that it happened though, the first was Latinization via the French when the Normans conquered England in the 1000's and the second was in the 18 and 19th centuries when people got a great big hard on for Rome again. I know it happened but it's not really something I've looked into a lot


[28-Mar-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
but the Normans are why we say beef, pork, poulty and such most other languages the animal is also the name of its meat


[28-Mar-19 03:21 AM] Macarou#9574
Hm, that is quite the neat little trait to have acquired from the Normans.


[28-Mar-19 03:23 AM] Honahue#0656
actually I'm forgetting the first Latinization, when fucking Rome themselves where in Britain but that was almost a thousand years before the Normans even


[28-Mar-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont understand the E at the end of a lot of words


[28-Mar-19 03:24 AM] Macarou#9574
I also seem to remember something, I am unsure how true it is,but somewhere, I found a statement, which declared that while French and Spanish and other such languages have been around, in at least somewhat similar forms to their current ones, are very advanced in age, English is a relatively young language. I am unsure as to the validity of this statement, but it intrigues me


[28-Mar-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes sense when it influences the pronounciation, but if it doesnt thne it doesnt make sense


[28-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: French defense of French culture


[28-Mar-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of american english was also shaped by the old newspaper prices of charging by the letter


[28-Mar-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always thought it was weird that England is basically tsundere for France but France doesn't give a shit


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is there a word for that?


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's not like I like you or anything b-baka"


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Good, because I don't."


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Honahue#0656
haha there's a good saing


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Honahue#0656
if you want to sound smart in English


[28-Mar-19 03:26 AM] Honahue#0656
learn French


[28-Mar-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called senpai didnt notice you


[28-Mar-19 03:28 AM] Honahue#0656
which is pretty true, when the Normans conquered they spoke French and were the monarchy so French became associated with wealth. if you were clergy you'd speak Latin which is related to French


[28-Mar-19 03:30 AM] Macarou#9574
Aren't the Romance languages in Europe, Spanish, French, Italian, and so on, basically very very distinctive versions of Latin, or am I misunderstanding?


[28-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a few other but yeah, they are by now though 2000 years removed from Latin but still share roots


[28-Mar-19 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Portuguese and Romanian


[28-Mar-19 03:32 AM] Macarou#9574
I believe the Sicilians also have their own special language as well, and apparently, at least from what  I found, this language most directly resembles Latin, without itself being Latin


[28-Mar-19 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
the Vatican still does stuff in liturgical Latin but it's not the same Latin that the Romans spoke


[28-Mar-19 03:35 AM] Honahue#0656
mostly a few sound changes, Classical Latin C is hard K sound, R are rolled there's no J leter, I at the beginning of a word is a J sound, V is a W sound


[28-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
so Jupiter in Latin looks like Iupiter


[28-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Macarou#9574
And Vulpes would be pronounced Wulpes.


[28-Mar-19 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
yee Wenni Widdi Wikki


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] Honahue#0656
but even more strange the Romans really admired the Greeks so a lot of Latin words have Greek roots


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] Macarou#9574
How widespread is Latin today, as a spoken language?


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I never really got the rolling R thing


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a dead language


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think anyone uses Latin as a conversational language anymore


[28-Mar-19 03:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
iirc it's all just for tradition/ritual


[28-Mar-19 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
you can learn it in school if you want a Classic degree or if you're Catholic


[28-Mar-19 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
but no one speaks it regularly outside of the Vatican


[28-Mar-19 03:40 AM] Macarou#9574
I see. Then that number would be horribly small, seeing as The Vatican is just a small part of Rome.


[28-Mar-19 03:42 AM] Macarou#9574
Latin itself might be dead, but some of her daughter languages sure have spread, Spanish especially is extensive, near Five Hundred million speakers, if I remember the figures correctly.


[28-Mar-19 03:42 AM] illumnious#7938
I only watched five seconds of this and I already laughing my ass off https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1111095689642233857?s=21

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[28-Mar-19 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean their are hobbiest speakers but it's only useful if you're either pursuing Classics or something related and maybe a bit in Biology/Medicine fields cause a lot of legacy names, Greek is useful too in those


[28-Mar-19 03:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It manifests itself primarily in taxonomy


[28-Mar-19 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and in anatomy


[28-Mar-19 03:44 AM] Honahue#0656
but just because it isn't useful in your career doesn't mean its stupid to learn IMO, we're humans not robots learning things that aren't our jobs is important


[28-Mar-19 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
other than that I haven't seen Latin anywhere in any significant amount in science; correct me if I'm wrong tho


[28-Mar-19 03:45 AM] Macarou#9574
Had I the opportunity, I would love to learn at least basic Latin, to read some of the old Roman books.


[28-Mar-19 03:45 AM] Macarou#9574
Opportunity, and means


[28-Mar-19 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How well does Duolingo work for "basic language"


[28-Mar-19 03:47 AM] Macarou#9574
Duolingo?


[28-Mar-19 03:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a "language learning" app


[28-Mar-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I tried it for like a month 3 years ago to attempt to learn French


[28-Mar-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(although I didn't take it very seriously)


[28-Mar-19 03:49 AM] Honahue#0656
I learned the Greek alphabet so that's nice


[28-Mar-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
αβγδ


[28-Mar-19 03:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
My knowledge of the Greek alphabet is pretty much just whatever letters appear in math


[28-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Macarou#9574
That does sound nice, though you just reminded me of something I found at my school, where one of the students could not tell what alphabet was Greek and which was Latin.


[28-Mar-19 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
abgd


[28-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
though in modern Greek β makes a V sound μπ is a B now


[28-Mar-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
ςιοκ;ΛΞΙΟΑΕΡΤΒΝΜΗ less frequently used in math


[28-Mar-19 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
that first sigma is supposed to be used at the end of a word


[28-Mar-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
ερτυθπασδφγηξλζχψωβνμΣΔΦΓΠΨΩΘ commonly used in math


[28-Mar-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wonder what dictates the usage frequency


[28-Mar-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
squiggles on a piece of paper


[28-Mar-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[28-Mar-19 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
epslion ro tau upsilon theta pi alpha sigma delta phi gama eta lambda zeta chi psi omega beta nu mu


[28-Mar-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should not really be able to "counter-punch" the media


[28-Mar-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fair.org/home/the-homeless-8-year-old-chess-champion-and-other-horrific-uplifting-stories/

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Any of these stories could have been used as a gateway to discuss many of the crippling economic and social problems the US is facing.
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[28-Mar-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, "oh how sweet! Someone raised money so all those people WOULDN'T FUKKING DIE HORRIFICALLY IN THE COLD" and "aaaw, what a little scamp, she's DESPERATELY TRYING TO PAY FOR HER OWN CHEMOTHERAPY WITH A LEMONADE STAND"


[28-Mar-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
These things are not okay.


[28-Mar-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not everyone can do these things. People are dying.


[28-Mar-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, stop having a conscious and shit or it's to das Konzentrationslager for you


[28-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
I got incredibly angry at my mom earlier when she was spouting some conspiracy theory bullshit about how violence against blacks went up under obama, so obviously it's obama's fault, and she said that michael brown (from ferguson) deserved to die because he charged the officer who shot him


[28-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
and I yelled at her that no one deserved to die


[28-Mar-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
and she laughed at me for that


[28-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
not a "haha that's funny laugh" but an evil, derisive laugh


[28-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
not a cackle either


[28-Mar-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
it was probably the most evil thing I've ever heard anyone do personally


[28-Mar-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
I told her that too, and she tried to play it off as me saying that the cop should've let himself be beat up (I didn't, I told her straight up that it was an obvious case of self-defense and that michael brown made the series of choices which got himself killed to begin with, even if it was drug-addled)


[28-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
and then she tried to lie to me straight to my face that she didn't actually say that he deserved to die


[28-Mar-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
then she finally reworded it as "oh, well OBVIOUSLY I didn't mean he deserved to die, no one deserves to die"


[28-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
basically mirroring what I was saying to begin with


[28-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Your mom sounds like an asshole


[28-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Mikey#7286
No offense


[28-Mar-19 08:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[28-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
I think @Nebbie said that like 4 years ago


[28-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[28-Mar-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
I remember one time he tried to get me to get her to join #derpibooru-pol on the old IRC server


[28-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
and I refused because I didn't want to put her through that experience when all it would do is convince her that "the socialists" got me (she already thinks that, but it would only confirm it for her)


[28-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm guessing she's ultra conservative or something


[28-Mar-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
like half the stuff she spouts is fringe conspiracy theory bullshit nowadays


[28-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
she recommended a site called "climate depot" for "real climate change news"


[28-Mar-19 08:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[28-Mar-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
I looked around for information about it, and all the fact-checking sites called it a "mild" conspiracy theory website with major pseudointellectual problems


[28-Mar-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, she always like to change the topic whenever I start winning her over logically in any argument


[28-Mar-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
which leads to going through like 8 different, completely unrelated topics she says are related because it's all "socialist propaganda bullshit"


[28-Mar-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
she doesn't "believe" in neoliberalism as a concept either because both republicans and democrats are neoliberals, and she haaates it whenever someone brings up something that a republican did that she would immediately denounce a democrat for doing


[28-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
she also claims that "True Conservatism™" is in "the center"


[28-Mar-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't remember wanting her on there, types like her wouldn't listen


[28-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know quite a few times I've advised fukking with her to make her realize her own hypocrisy.


[28-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But honestly I think now she's too deranged.


[28-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, you (or someone else, maybe @Itsthinking) said "get your crazy mother in here" or "get your crazy mom in here"


[28-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Might've been DragonMaus


[28-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or Arma


[28-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
not arma


[28-Mar-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're real screwy on politics


[28-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they lean conservative but they adhere strongly to arguing things


[28-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't get how messed-up most of the conservative side is nor how biased most of their info is.


[28-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, it was ciaran


[28-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
and it was in main


[28-Mar-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was a lot of fun blasting them on Syrian immigration.


[28-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
Nov 19 16:27:20 <Ciaran>    Get your crazy mother in here!


[28-Mar-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
by "nov 19", that's like 2016 or 2017


[28-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they believed that 1) Syrians aren't refugees, 2) They want to stay in Europe permanently, and 3) They don't want to assimilate (as the primary reason they don't get jobs fast)


[28-Mar-19 09:16 AM] ononim#8141
Nebbie VS Arma when


[28-Mar-19 09:16 AM] ononim#8141
oh wait it already happened


[28-Mar-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It didn't take much info to disprove all 3


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, 1 is on it's face retarded


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real breakthru was on 2


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure arma's mentioned multiple times he loves to argue contrarian in politics multiple times


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh this wasn't that


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He genuinely thought Syrians should be shunned etc.


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
considering how little arma's around nowadays, I imagine he lost


[28-Mar-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lost that argument pretty hard


[28-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I really strukk a nerve on 3 with an article about a Syrian dentist denied any sort of medical license after being let into Canada


[28-Mar-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And another explaining how even staying a doctor between different parts of Germany is hard, let alone between countries


[28-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
Nov 19 15:53:57 <Nebulon>    Crow, hav you introduced her to the Christian Science Monitor?


[28-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
you tried to get me to introduce her to that, I have multiple times, but she never bothers


[28-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, I think the name would trikk her


[28-Mar-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's clear now she's too closed off anyways.


[28-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, when Syrian doctors that had all their med school come to Europe...they can't practice medicine


[28-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this pattern holds for like every type of certification


[28-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The barriers to employment are largely artificial, Syrians aren't terribly uneducated.


[28-Mar-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
she just listens to mark levin, rush limbaugh, some guy named "dan bongino" who sounds like a borderline conspiracy theorist, some guy named "michael savage" who sounds like alex jones-lite, and sean hannity


[28-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the part that got Arma and DM rethinking their stance


[28-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
people from the middle east with engineering degrees aren't ever allowed to practice in the US


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
even if they get recertified


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] ononim#8141
~~I was more about how you call French a dead language~~


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's real easy to say that there's an INVASION of people who just want you to adapt to them and giv them welfare and all that until you realize they literally will be killed by chemical weapons in slums while having an engineering degree if they don't come to your country.


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] ononim#8141
~~or that time you argue how "customers are always right" about toursits being pigs~~


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some law, Crow?


[28-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine it's like, "BUT WHAT IF AN IRANIAN SEES WHAT A JET LOOKS LIKE?"


[28-Mar-19 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
idk, I heard it from an iranian professor


[28-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
said the only jobs for iranian and other middle eastern engineers who immigrate to the US is in teaching


[28-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
I think he specifically mentioned structural engineering though


[28-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
so no building bridges or skyscrapers


[28-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's sanctions-related


[28-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, maybe


[28-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
I can't find anything directly mentioning it


[28-Mar-19 09:25 AM] ononim#8141
Hoo boy I am sure the reason for this is not so incredibly racist it feels like it come from a politica; satire! /s


[28-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
like you hav to giv up Iranian citizenship cause otherwise you'd export secrets of building a building for a nuclear reactor


[28-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
(secrets Iran already knows)


[28-Mar-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some universities didn't allow Iranian citizens into engineering programs *period* because of it.


[28-Mar-19 09:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
the US is silly and if they hadn't fucking CIA coup'd Iran they wouldn't have had problems


[28-Mar-19 09:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
in fact, leaving them alone and y'know, not economically sabotaging them would be nice but heyy, who am I to know?


[28-Mar-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
the CIA was practically its own paramilitary organization with how much freedom it was given during the cold war


[28-Mar-19 09:58 AM] Crow#5457
it didn't even care about iran or bother to investigate it really, it only staged the coup because the british GCHQ claimed to have proof that iran's president was allying with and supported by the USSR (he wasn't, both he and iran at large hated the USSR)


[28-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
because the british were mad that they got ousted from iran's oil production due to shitty conditions (like 18 hour workdays, pennies on the dollar an hour, no benefits, etc)


[28-Mar-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[28-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-to-make-of-the-buttigieg-bump/ @Itsthinking 
`The splashiest data point in support of the Buttigieg bump is an Emerson College poll conducted March 21-24 that gave him 11 percent of the vote in Iowa, putting him in third place there. This marks a sizable gain for “Mayor Pete,” as he had gotten 0 percent support in the pollster’s January survey. However, there is reason to be skeptical of Buttigieg’s impressive new number. For more than half of the respondents, Emerson didn’t randomize the order of the 14 candidates it asked about, which meant Buttigieg was always the first option. That matters because candidates listed first do have an advantage; ever been tempted to just press 1 in those overly long customer-service phone menus? That might have happened here for the 142 Democrats who took the poll by phone. (Another 107 took the poll online, where the choices were randomized.) The poll also had a small overall sample size (249 Democratic respondents) and high margin of error (+/-6.2 percentage points) — two more reasons to treat it with a grain of salt.`

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What To Make Of The ‘Buttigieg Bump’
Pete Buttigieg is having a moment. The 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, who would be the first openly gay president, is the “hottest candidate in the 2…
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[28-Mar-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/26/alabama-mo-brooks-quotes-hitler-house-floor-bash-democrats/3282595002/

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Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks reads from Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' while bash...
Republican Rep. Mo Brooks quoted Adolf Hitler on the House floor in an attempt to blast Democrats over special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
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[28-Mar-19 12:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whoops, looks like whoever wrote this article got fleeced by Barr's use of the word "collusion" in his letter, not the word "conspiracy"


[28-Mar-19 12:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To be fair, there maybe wasn't evidence of that, either, but I'm not the first to note that the AG using the word "collusion" is a political dog-whistle and a little out of place because, y'know, it's not an actual crime


[28-Mar-19 12:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and we won't know for sure without the actual report


[28-Mar-19 03:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw

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Selection for Societal Sanity
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[28-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/28/middleeast/saudi-arabia-loujain-hathloul-charges-intl/index.html

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Saudi Arabia cites UN job application as evidence against Loujain ...
A prominent Saudi activist's admission that she once applied for a job at the United Nations is being used as part of the kingdom's case against her, CNN has learned.
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[28-Mar-19 06:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>staunchest US allies
>talk to UN, go to prison or executed


[28-Mar-19 06:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems about right


[28-Mar-19 06:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine democratic allies


[28-Mar-19 06:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1111284757839659008?s=21

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[28-Mar-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Is it weird that i'm surprised trump hasn't put his name on the white house in bold white letters like he did with trump towers?


[28-Mar-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wonder if he ever tried


[28-Mar-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-military-wind-energy-fox-news-sean-hannity-russia-mueller-media-1377881

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Donald Trump is glad the U.S. is not powered by wind "because it o...
It "wouldn’t have worked by the way because it only blows sometimes and lots of problems come about,” President Donald Trump said about wind power.
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[28-Mar-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[28-Mar-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/politics/mueller-report-length.html

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By NICHOLAS FANDOS and ADAM GOLDMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/politics/mueller-report-length.html
Mueller Report Exceeds 300 Pages, Raising Questions About Four-Pag...
The report submitted by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, was more than 300 pages, raising more questions about the four-page summary of the attorney general.
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[28-Mar-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee it;s almost like you cant really summarize a 300+ page report in only 4 pages


[28-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>it wouldn’t have worked by the way because it only blows sometimes [...]*


[28-Mar-19 09:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:pinkiewat:


[28-Mar-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how....?


[28-Mar-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow 300+ pages


[28-Mar-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's gonna take a while to read entirely through


[28-Mar-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
It's not impossible to do in a day, even thoughly but it would basically be most of a work day


[28-Mar-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intentional. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/

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FCC “fined” robocallers $208 million since 2015 but collected ...
Both FCC and FTC fail to collect vast majority of robocall fines, WSJ reports.
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[28-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/436332-mcconnell-sets-stage-for-nuclear-option-to-change-rules-on-judges

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McConnell sets stage for 'nuclear option' to change rules on judges
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) filed a procedural motion Thursday to set up a rules change in the Senate next week that will speed up votes to confirm President Trump’s nominees to federal district courts and sub-Cabinet-level exec
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[28-Mar-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did...


[28-Mar-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because why would yertle the elderdick ever not use the fast lane to shit on everyone


[29-Mar-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Mar-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
peak US


[29-Mar-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[29-Mar-19 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
It's almost like if you make doing something legitimately unreasonably difficult people have to do it illegitimately


[29-Mar-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the conservative dream, their true goals.


[29-Mar-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make legitimate accomplishment so difficult for all but the privileged few that they can decry anyone else getting anything for doing so illegitimately.


[29-Mar-19 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://streamable.com/en2ry

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[29-Mar-19 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[29-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Mar-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't threaten us with a good time.


[29-Mar-19 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656

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[29-Mar-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
sounds complicated, do it later

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[29-Mar-19 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
nucc


[29-Mar-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0c63ac0a35d845db957baad28e15c49b

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Trump backs off proposal to cut Special Olympics funds
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump announced Thursday that he was backing off his budget request to eliminate funding for the Special Olympics, reversing course on a proposal that was...
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[29-Mar-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did laura ingram just say the threat of trans people is cyborgs?


[29-Mar-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds awesome


[29-Mar-19 04:55 AM] Honahue#0656
transcyber revolution when?


[29-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.gofundme.com/money-for-eggboi

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Click here to support Money for EggBoi organised by Egg Boi
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[29-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
up to $80k now


[29-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Electron#4561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXbR3oADwaM

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PragerU
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The Left Ruins Everything
From the Boy Scouts to literature, from the arts to universities: the left ruins everything it touches. Dennis Prager explains. Donate today to PragerU! http...
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[29-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Electron#4561
_Ponders_


[29-Mar-19 11:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Prager """"""U""""""


[29-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Got dang evil leftists!!!!! >:C


[29-Mar-19 12:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Was Prager ever subtle about this kind of thing? 'Cause this one seems more blatant than I'd expect


[29-Mar-19 12:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least as far as video titles are concerned


[29-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is he on about now


[29-Mar-19 01:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno. I've spent the last half hour reading through news about the mueller investigation instead of clicking play on brain rot


[29-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Mikey#7286
I've never watched prageru but I've only heard about them


[29-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Macarou#9574
Just finished that Prager video, he says things I have heard before, about how Universities are jokes and intolerant, modern art is bad, boy scouts are dead, Free Speech is being hampered by those who believe in hate speech,  late night tv is too political,   these all are points I have heard before, and possibly you might have too.


[29-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People have been saying "modern art bad" for as long as art existed


[29-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The last point is made irrelevant by the fact that Jay Leno brought it up


[29-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A person who was/is fucking obsessed with Lewinsky jokes


[29-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[29-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has it occurred to anyone that part of the reason conservatives don't contribute much to these fields is the very nature of the ideology? It's in the name.


[29-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't move from tradition and are reactionary, which means when they move it's in response to something


[29-Mar-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually they only budge from their pedestals if something threatens their status quo


[29-Mar-19 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they move into any form of art territory it probably involves defunding it


[29-Mar-19 03:18 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Brexit may really happen


[29-Mar-19 03:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
eh


[29-Mar-19 03:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
286 approved and 344 rejected


[29-Mar-19 03:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Fuck, again


[29-Mar-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the offer of resignation isnt enough to make thme want your terrible deal


[29-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol another rejection?


[29-Mar-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/436293-rand-paul-blocks-resolution-calling-for-mueller-report-release

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Rand Paul blocks resolution calling for Mueller report release
Sen.
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[29-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck you Rand


[29-Mar-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit paul


[29-Mar-19 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/D1PNLPg.jpg

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We don't need to be reminded.
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[29-Mar-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Mar-19 08:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
gay marriage is ok and abortion is necessary for the poor to protect them selfs


[29-Mar-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like cawmmunist propaganda, but ok

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[29-Mar-19 08:53 PM] Mikey#7286
What's that? You can't afford life saving surgery? Sucks to be you!


[29-Mar-19 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://streamable.com/inpzg

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[29-Mar-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/1672830

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[29-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
one thing I do know is that marijuana is relatively harmless


[29-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
while guns can be used to kill people


[29-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
guess which one should be regulated more


[29-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end Rand Paul too is merely a pawn of conservatism


[29-Mar-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
a runaway vessel of hatred, hypocrisy, and corruption that is absorbing anyone right of center


[29-Mar-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
What do you think Ron Paul would have done


[29-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably make it about aliens


[29-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
I think more people are comfortable being center-left than far right


[29-Mar-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like demand that we get the EPA's report on Area 51 released from the Obama days too


[29-Mar-19 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2019-03-29-congress-introduces-bipartisan-legislation-to/

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[29-Mar-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would never allow such a bill.


[29-Mar-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Probably not


[29-Mar-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
"the libs" like it too much


[29-Mar-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/9b07058db9244cfa9f48208eed12c993

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20 years for man behind hoax call that led to fatal shooting
WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — A California man was sentenced Friday to 20 years in prison for making bogus emergency calls to authorities across the U.S., including one that led police to fatally shoot a...
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[29-Mar-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Why are they sentencing this man like this but not the pig who actually murdered other people in cold blood on a hostage call


[29-Mar-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Do the police actually know anything?


[29-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Original-fault-based morality


[29-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a big thing with conservatives to like


[29-Mar-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
blame the very original fault


[29-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You did a bad wiring job so then a ton of city workers being irresponsible took the building down, so you're to blame for the building.


[29-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
This avoids placing any blame on the system.


[29-Mar-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system makes no mistakes, says the conservative.


[29-Mar-19 10:00 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, have you ever heard of "guild socialism"?


[29-Mar-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
PissPig being this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brace_Belden

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[29-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and it's impractical to do on a nationwide scale.


[29-Mar-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
because the reasons you listed in #general-discussion would be solved by guild socialism


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you get into forcing this stuff you start exiting libertarian ideology.


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
>He still thinks you have to do it on a nation-wide scale


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Holy shit I wonder how we survived early capitalism then with every factory being privately owned


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, you don't have to do socialism at all on a national scale


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then what's the point?


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're not changing much of the nation at all.


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody cares what happens in some guy's garage while capitalism is murdering the rest of the country.


[29-Mar-19 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
you can have different types of socialism on different levels


[29-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
iirc I saw something that was theoretically infinitely scalable


[29-Mar-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
because one unified system of socialism always eventually leads to the USSR


[29-Mar-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
but many, smaller, decentralized systems are forced to compete with each other


[29-Mar-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
it's the concept of antitrust, except applied to a government instead of corporations


[29-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
and @Nebbie, the reason why these individual socialist systems wouldn't eventually just drift off on their own is because everything would be tied together in such a way that it increases productivity exponentially to stay together than to drift apart


[29-Mar-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
basically incentivizing everything that capitalism claims to do to begin with


[29-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
capitalism does do it, but only to a limited degree


[29-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
because it's constantly spending time sabotaging itself in order to get ahead of competitors on top of actually competing


[29-Mar-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
on top of fucking everyone else over


[29-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, my mom has started to try and win me over sporadically by saying that the "history and traditions" of the US are at stake if we allow undocumented immigrants to stay legally and pay taxes and stuff, but when I actually question what history and traditions are at stake, she just comes up with some vague nonsense about liberty and freedom and then changes the subject to stuff about historical tidbits like how lincoln freed the slaves


[29-Mar-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
though her biggest complaint is that they don't learn how to speak english


[29-Mar-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lincoln freed the slaves, this is why we can;t allow the mexicans into america. It would upset the lincolns


[29-Mar-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I need to update my vaccinations but i have no idea how much vaccines cost


[29-Mar-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
cheapest are usually $20-30 but can easily get up into the hundreds


[29-Mar-19 10:41 PM] Crow#5457
I know that the HPV vaccines I received were each like $67ish (I got them for free because california's medicaid equivalent isn't gimped)


[29-Mar-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont even have medicaid, I hope north carolina's medicaid isn't gimped but i'll have to look


[29-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
cursory glances seem to show that medicaid in north carolina is only available from 0-18 and 65+


[29-Mar-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
which 100% isn't the intended purpose of medicaid, it's supposed to cover everyone


[29-Mar-19 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[29-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://medicaid.ncdhhs.gov/medicaid/get-started/learn-if-you-are-eligible-medicaid-or-health-choice/medicaid-income-and

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[29-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans like to do this thing where they try to take away basic rights, but end up giving them only to children and the elderly


[29-Mar-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Since otherwise parents and old people vote them the fukk out


[29-Mar-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[29-Mar-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you republican cunts


[29-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then kids end up having to struggle to pay for chemo anyways cause haha TECHNICALITY BITCH


[29-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
in california, medicaid is called medi-cal, and it covers 0-17 for free, and 18+ as long as you're below like $23k yearly income and have less than $15,000 in savings


[29-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
the savings limit is retarded though


[29-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[29-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Savings limits are intended to keep people in poverty


[29-Mar-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you can't save up to get out of poverty using welfare as a springboard


[29-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is, well, the entire purpose of welfare, to be a springboard.


[29-Mar-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay, can anyone point to the last time the republicans introduced something that was beneficial to a majority of Americans


[29-Mar-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Bush added EV subsidies?


[29-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
back when global warming was a bipartisan issue


[29-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crummy ones that barely pay anything and run out per-company after so many cars get sold


[29-Mar-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Tesla's hitting their phaseout, and is the first company to do so)


[29-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time McCain said Obama wasn't gonna do enuff to stop global warming


[29-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans within a few years decided that McCain was an enemy


[29-Mar-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
2008 was pretty much a turning point


[29-Mar-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans didn't win by being "okay we'll do progress, but only one THESE issues all the way", so they went for "we'll just destroy progress"


[29-Mar-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw I know a guy who like, is super poverty-trapped


[29-Mar-19 10:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
.p brexit


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[29-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the savings limits on disability benefits (his mom has outright brain damage and he himself has autism and PTSD and like twenty different physical problems including asthma and severe allergies stemming from being poor in suburban areas) mean he can't really save up to get a vehicle or a decent education


[29-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, if he leaves his mom's place to get a job, it hurts her benefits


[29-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well as his


[29-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system's really messed up.


[29-Mar-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s super fucked


[29-Mar-19 11:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Seems like Brexit is rarely talked about?


[29-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talking about Brexit is like talking about the giant multi-headed animal eviscerating a dragon in the sky


[29-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's great the first few months


[29-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
still has some interesting things after a year or two


[29-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
but eventually, what more is there to say?


[29-Mar-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The dragons' guts are pretty?


[29-Mar-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't want it to die?


[29-Mar-19 11:08 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I want British people to have the freedom to make memes


[29-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
ok but that isn't actually what article 13 is about


[29-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
plus they changed it to exclude "parodies", which would be memes


[29-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
of course, it's bad for a whole bunch of other reasons


[29-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically going to kill investment into european countries who implement it


[29-Mar-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
except from super big companies like google


[29-Mar-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
going to super kill competition


[29-Mar-19 11:11 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So how is memeing mlp going to be a parody


[29-Mar-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because memes of mlp are a parody of mlp?


[29-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
@SymphonyDawn3 Article 13 says sites are responsible for copyrighted content and preventing it getting uploaded.


[29-Mar-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore implicitly they must put filters on content uploads that must get rid of anything that could be a problem.


[29-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore memes using stuff from media would be hit.


[29-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a concession they say parodies are not a problem...but that doesn't mean parodies can't be filtered, just that they don't need to be.


[29-Mar-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Memes come with a lot of copyrighted content in them


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
usually a still image or video clip


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
like the Hitler Bunker Scene


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
which sure, those are parodies


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
...but they'll get screwed anyways.


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Exhibit A: Youtube's content ID system


[29-Mar-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit has nothing to do with Article 13 and the UK still has to implement Article 13 cause it went in pre-Brexit deadline


[29-Mar-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK voted for it too, IIRC


[29-Mar-19 11:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So...how does this apply to, say, unedited screencaps of a children's cartoon, as a hypothetical example


[29-Mar-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In theory Hasbro could try to say we aren't stopping enuff uploads


[29-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's more a problem on the comics and books.


[29-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro doesn't care hugely about show clips AFAIK


[29-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They care quite a bit about the books.


[29-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's one particular book we cannot allow ANY photos of.


[29-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is stretching DMCA rather badly...


[29-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, copyright is horrid.


[29-Mar-19 11:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So what actually contstitues "fair use" in the EU now with art13?


[29-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no fair use


[29-Mar-19 11:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's kinda what I thought


[29-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just said that particular BS doesn't apply to parodies


[29-Mar-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
(even tho it *de facto* has to)


[29-Mar-19 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, I don't know how I feel about a future where a legal battle to save the internet could happen over a YTP of an old Top Gear episode


[29-Mar-19 11:26 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Nebbie this affects Derpibooru from copyright


[29-Mar-19 11:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Almost everything is copyrighted material


[29-Mar-19 11:30 PM] RYDE#8862
Exactly. I'm thinking about doing the original stuff anyway. Seems like a good idea.


[30-Mar-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2019-03-26-breaking-bill-to-restore-net-neutrality-passes/

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[30-Mar-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie IIRC the only time Hasbro ever really was pissed at the site was with Art of Equestria


[30-Mar-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being the lawyer who had to look at the site unfiltered on the clock to confirm


[30-Mar-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.salon.com/2019/03/29/nras-wayne-lapierre-warns-that-group-may-be-shut-down-forever-thanks-to-democrats/

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In a letter to supporters, NRA chief warns that gun lobby faces "vast power of thousands of New York bureaucrats"
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[30-Mar-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yeah


[30-Mar-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course knowign the NRA this may just be bait to get more donations


[30-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
that's what they always do


[30-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
they get big surges in funding whenever there's a shooting


[30-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
except that stopped like a year or two ago


[30-Mar-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
because people realized that no matter how many shootings there are, guns won't go away


[30-Mar-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the NRA is redundant at this point


[30-Mar-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
anyways


[30-Mar-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
trump and his dad cheated for their wealth


[30-Mar-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@NeoXenoZ


[30-Mar-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
and his dad gave him at least $600m in total upstart by the time his dad died


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
he was given $60m at 18


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
@Crow You can legally spend the profits in a business or company before tax can deduct you


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
at a time where that was a _lot_ of money


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
So if you spend it all the profits, you can then ask for the tax to tax you


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
that "small loan of a million dollars" was actually $23 million


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
which he then promptly wasted and had to get bailed out again


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
he's not successful by any measure of the word


[30-Mar-19 02:03 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
At least, that's what I've been studying


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing he was successful at was making himself appear successful to the masses


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Do you have a $5 billion empire?


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for cheap tactics he;d likely be a used car salesman living in a trailer park


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
so that he could get a bunch of investors to take the economic fall for his failures


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no but neither does trump


[30-Mar-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
in today's money that equates to $491,425,566


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
That's trump's net worth


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
what are you talking about


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
the person who directed his dumb television show said that they just barely managed to make him seem coherent


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
@NeoXenoZ i'm talking about inflation


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
he was given $60m in 1964


[30-Mar-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
today that's worth almost $500m


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Trump is lucky he got a headstart


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Mikey#7286
meaning his dad gave him a shitton


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
No wait


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] Mikey#7286
and that's not all he was given


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Donald trump has a 3.1 billion net worth


[30-Mar-19 02:06 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Rich people use OPM


[30-Mar-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/onepunchman-ok-saitama-gif-4973579

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[30-Mar-19 02:07 AM] Mikey#7286
actually, it's highly likely he's worth more like 600m or so


[30-Mar-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-Mar-19 02:07 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
*ok*


[30-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
some that knows the quote bot commands plz


[30-Mar-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
hm?


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
going by all the property in his name, he's supposedly $3.1 billion, he was $4.5 billion in 2017


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
but his actual personal worth is around $400 million


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
wait what


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
that's not what i copied


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has also made a killing at beign the illegal middle man  in wealth trade. using his charity events as a suit case pass between rich people


[30-Mar-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/is-donald-trump-rich-this-1-story-may-prove-hes-not-really-a-billionaire.html/

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[30-Mar-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he commits charity fraud as well


[30-Mar-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
his charity got shut down


[30-Mar-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
commited*


[30-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
and is also being investigated by new york


[30-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
the investigation didn't end just because the charity was shut down either


[30-Mar-19 02:11 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Has trump do anything good?


[30-Mar-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff no


[30-Mar-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
a couple things, but only little tiny things to boost his overall image


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
blown out of proportion in order to make people not feel as bad about him


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
I mean I don't know much about trump


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
but still relatively small compared to the damage he's done and is still doing


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well his famous book was written by a ghost writer and not him


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Does it actually matter?


[30-Mar-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so none of the advice in that book is his


[30-Mar-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kinda does actually


[30-Mar-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
of course it matters, he's a liar and a fraud


[30-Mar-19 02:13 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Shouldn't have the ghost writer have asked about what to actually put in the book?


[30-Mar-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
art of the deal is a big ol book of lies and deceit


[30-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
there has to be baseline ethics in politics, and there has been for decades up until the past 20 years or so


[30-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
you could be unethical, but only if you weren't caught


[30-Mar-19 02:14 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Does commissioning a story count as ghost writing?


[30-Mar-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
(which should also not be allowed, but there's not much you can do about that)


[30-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
no, only if you put your name on it


[30-Mar-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
when someone else wrote it


[30-Mar-19 02:15 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
I really want to make my story a reality but I don't want to put my time into writing it


[30-Mar-19 02:15 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Well I can put both names


[30-Mar-19 02:15 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Win win


[30-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
trump's not only been caught, but has flaunted all of his moral shortcomings, and all it's done is make reasonable people mad and make his base feel empowered about how their "champion" is literally rotting the whole foundation of the country out from under us


[30-Mar-19 02:16 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
It's fair that I should be credited for the creation of the storyline


[30-Mar-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
ethically, if someone wrote you a story, you'd say put the author as the actual writer and then include "commissioned by:" somewhere with your name


[30-Mar-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
oh, if you created the whole story and had someone else tell it, the author would still be the main credit, but your name would be listed prominently too


[30-Mar-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
tbh at that point it would be easier to write it yourself


[30-Mar-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
what you're asking for would be more like an editor


[30-Mar-19 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostwriter

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A ghostwriter is hired to write literary or journalistic works, speeches, or other texts that are officially credited to another person as the author. Celebrities, executives, participants in timely news stories, and political leaders often hire ghostwriters to draft or edit ...
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[30-Mar-19 02:18 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Hmm


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Technically If I do find something in the story that I don't want or changed I am technically the editor


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
.q add @Mikey 
@The Furry Sans i'm talking about inflation


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@ononim, quote added (@Mikey: 
@The Furry Sans i'm talking about inflation)


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Okay so I'll pay the writer the commission


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
So then I can sell the book


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon you're welcome


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
Best investment


[30-Mar-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
goddamnit @Teaspoon


[30-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
i should have seen that coming


[30-Mar-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, it doesn't ping though >:V


[30-Mar-19 02:21 AM] ononim#8141
SPeaking of inflation


[30-Mar-19 02:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/melodic_traash/status/1111719829055197184?s=19

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[30-Mar-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
why #politics tho


[30-Mar-19 02:21 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
good one


[30-Mar-19 02:21 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
👌


[30-Mar-19 02:22 AM] NeoXenoZ#9403
That's the joke @Crow


[30-Mar-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ta


[30-Mar-19 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQM1c-XCDc

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[30-Mar-19 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
MIENE FRAU, SCHWARZEDEUTSCHLAND


[30-Mar-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/436405-trump-contradicts-his-own-budget-proposal-tells-rally-crowd-hell

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[30-Mar-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Mar-19 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who's hype for House of Commons livestream on Monday?


[30-Mar-19 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit's better than most cable shows


[30-Mar-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
why aren't they forcing a new referendum


[30-Mar-19 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they can't decide to


[30-Mar-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's at the point where even facebook groups specifically dedicated to brexit are seeing supermajorities wanting to stay


[30-Mar-19 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And because that two major parties were complete prepotent idiots that agreed not to early on to "respect the will of the people" and publicly refuse to consider that the electorate may have changed their opinion after 3 years of idiocy


[30-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
what're the major parties?


[30-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
I thought labor supported a new vote


[30-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the MPs comically (yet seriously) pointed out that May denies the electorate could have changed its mind in three years, so won't hold another vote


[30-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At the same time she's put the same proposal to the parliament 3 times without changes and expects them to change their mind


[30-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They publicly have a few people saying they do


[30-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But as a party, at the time to vote, they go against or abstain (ie. letting it fail, so same thing)


[30-Mar-19 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because "betraying the people, death of democracy", etc.


[30-Mar-19 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So far the best we can hope for is a public confirmation vote on whatever the house thinks is a "good enough brexit", with the other option being revocation


[30-Mar-19 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Entire thing is such a shitshow


[30-Mar-19 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The new deadline is less than two weeks away now


[30-Mar-19 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that deadline is pretty much just "have you guys got an actual plan that's worth considering for another delay?"


[30-Mar-19 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EU isn't going to renegotiate on the deal, so as far as they're concerned only reason to delay again is for a general election that can push a majority that will approve the deal


[30-Mar-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And honestly fucking Italy might decide to say "fuck it and fuck you" and veto the extension anyway


[30-Mar-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
I thought that was france


[30-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
france really wants to kick the UK out, maybe in some sort of vain attempt to restore french as the dominant language


[30-Mar-19 05:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
>French


[30-Mar-19 05:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not dominant


[30-Mar-19 05:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
>All EU institutions in the Francosphere


[30-Mar-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
as long as the US and china exist, the dominant language will be either english or mandarin


[30-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
not talking about the country, talking about the language lol


[30-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/us-attorney-general-barr-will-release-redacted-copy-of-mueller-report-by-mid-april-idUSKCN1RA2CN

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Mueller report on Trump and Russia to be made public by mid-April:...
U.S. Attorney General William Barr plans to make public a redacted copy of Speci...
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[30-Mar-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
>U.S. Attorney General William Barr plans to make public a redacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s nearly 400-page investigative report into Russian interference in the 2016 election by mid-April, “if not sooner,” he said in a letter to lawmakers on Friday.


[30-Mar-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
What language do you think the Belgians speak?


[30-Mar-19 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
They speak French


[30-Mar-19 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
All major EU institutions are geographically in the Francosphere.


[30-Mar-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even though the EU as a whole recognizes some 40+ official languages.


[30-Mar-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
So it has no official language.


[30-Mar-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
But between Brussels, Luxembourg, and Strassbourg all the institutions are in the Francosphere.


[30-Mar-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though the Germans dominate it all economically.


[30-Mar-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
D E U T S C H L A N D


[30-Mar-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so we've established from credible sources the length of the report to be between 300-400 pages...and that approximately too many of the key witnesses Mueller talked to could be subject to executive privilege redacting their testimony


[30-Mar-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
maybe one of the major languages in the EU, but I think the only other place outside the EU that speaks french is canada, and they're only 20%


[30-Mar-19 05:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[30-Mar-19 05:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
No


[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of the old french colonies are throwing out french


[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
No


[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_internationale_de_la_Francophonie

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The Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF), generally known as the Francophonie (French: La Francophonie [la fʁɑ̃kɔfɔni]), but also called International Organisation of the Francophonie in English language context, is an international organization represent...
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[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
French is actually severely in decline in EU business


[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is always in English, but only usually in French


[30-Mar-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a complete reversal of 20 years ago


[30-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's cause all the Eastern European countries come in and go "fukk French" basically


[30-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like the complication of needing extra translators


[30-Mar-19 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Again Nebbie


[30-Mar-19 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're a comedian


[30-Mar-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile


[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macedonia is about to join the EU


[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a single shit about French either.


[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Organisation_internationale_de_la_Francophonie

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Member states of the Organisation internationale de la Francophonie
This is a list of the member states of the International Organisation of the Francophonie. These countries belong to an international organisation representing countries and regions where French is the first ("mother") or customary language, where a significant proportion of ...
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[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well golly gee


[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Macedonia


[30-Mar-19 05:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Joined 2001


[30-Mar-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's meaningless


[30-Mar-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not want the extra burden with training all their EU officials


[30-Mar-19 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm noting that the chart makes no distinction between countries where French is the #1 official language and countries that basically just wear "I ♥ France" t-shirts


[30-Mar-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
says their #1 language is still macedonian


[30-Mar-19 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Viva l'Unversitie d' Paris


[30-Mar-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
I don't really get the whole "french is freedom" meme anyways, they've been campaigning against memes and freedom of the internet for years


[30-Mar-19 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This map is a couple years old, btw

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[30-Mar-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
they're by far the biggest supporter of articles 11 and 13


[30-Mar-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because it limits influence of outside cultures


[30-Mar-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/A6IntxCA3sA

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[30-Mar-19 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
NSFL


[30-Mar-19 06:27 AM] Denk#5891
I feel uncomfortable after watching that


[30-Mar-19 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
This is america

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[30-Mar-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
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[30-Mar-19 06:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gonna double post it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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[30-Mar-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[30-Mar-19 12:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump/trump-threatens-closure-of-u-s-mexico-border-next-week-to-stem-asylum-surge-idUSKCN1RA1WR

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Trump threatens closure of U.S.-Mexico border next week to stem...
President Donald Trump threatened on Friday to close the U.S. border with Mexico...
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[30-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
how to get impeached: the movie


[30-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
if mexico says no and he doesn't follow through, he loses


[30-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
if mexico says no and he does follow through, he gets impeached


[30-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
the rich assholes which control the US would never tolerate such a large disruption to their money


[30-Mar-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rich assholes in mexico would be none too happy either


[30-Mar-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this would be an unwelcome wedge in business relations


[30-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/133918830073352192?s=19

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The Jewish people has always been plagued by Bad Jews, who undermine it from within. In America, those Bad Jews largely vote Democrat.
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[30-Mar-19 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so is he suggesting that we...


[30-Mar-19 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh it;s from 2011


[30-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Honahue#0656
Shapiro calling for some kind of solution to the Jewish question


[30-Mar-19 06:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And also some kind of bizarro no true scotsman fallacy


[30-Mar-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in some kind of bizarro no truth scotsman fallacy


[30-Mar-19 06:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He seems to heavily imply that good Jewish people vote republican


[30-Mar-19 06:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or not at all


[30-Mar-19 06:08 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure some are good people but they aren't sending their best


[30-Mar-19 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile in the present trump wants to spiral our economy down the fuck quicker by closing all the mexican trade routes into america


[30-Mar-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next week is going to be a shit show


[30-Mar-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shakira Facts Don't Lie


[30-Mar-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Mar-19 06:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can anyone tell me what, exactly, the lie the Mueller investigation was based on is supposed to be?


[30-Mar-19 06:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause almost everything we suspected has come to light as consistently true across everything that's come out of the investigation right up to the point where Barr said it wasn't


[30-Mar-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/63e208c68beb4f31892e80a9e49369fd

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Trump steps in to help Navy SEAL charged with murder
PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Saturday a Navy SEAL charged with murder in the stabbing of an Iraqi war prisoner will be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits...
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[30-Mar-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
see the lie is that Barr was hired to be attorney general, Barr was hired to be trump's cover up guy


[30-Mar-19 06:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I kinda meant the "lie" that Rand Paul and the others are looking for in trying to force the release of Obama-era documents


[30-Mar-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[30-Mar-19 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if there was such a lie, the Mueller report would be an enormous witch hunt relying on the cooperation of all of his witnesses to confirm the narrative and take the fall, and present conclusions that couldn't be trusted - and yet, because Trump said Barr said no collusion, Mueller's being hailed as a hero for finding nothing with his witch hunt


[30-Mar-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans cant come up with a straight lie, everythign they say is a contradiction of everything else they say


[30-Mar-19 07:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so in order to properly understand the mental gymnastics I think it's important to know what they're trying to contradict, y'know?


[30-Mar-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're trying to mentally blame russia on obama i think?


[30-Mar-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's been so many lies it;s hard to keep track of anymore


[30-Mar-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the meantime trump is moving a murderer who took deer kill shots of his victim to a lower security prison


[30-Mar-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he was a marine so this apprently is supposed to show that trump cares for the veterans and stuff?


[30-Mar-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't think trump knows how moral flexing is supposed to work


[30-Mar-19 07:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think trump knows how morals are supposed to work


[30-Mar-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also true


[30-Mar-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the meantime he'll probably belt out 20 more tweets attacking mccain


[30-Mar-19 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
The GOP can never come up with a straight lie, no


[30-Mar-19 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Their lies are always _GAY_

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[30-Mar-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a web of super gay


[30-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/436560-trump-says-navy-seal-charged-with-war-crimes-will-be-moved-to-less

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Trump says Navy SEAL charged with war crimes will be moved to 'les...
President Trump on Saturday said Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher, who has been charged with multiple war crimes, will soon be m
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[30-Mar-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy is a psycho


[30-Mar-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[30-Mar-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
already posted it but more sources are alwAYS nice


[30-Mar-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he glorifies the violent and trashes the peaceful


[30-Mar-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would probably run this shit like north korea but the current system prevents him from doing so


[30-Mar-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a generational thing


[30-Mar-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like my relatives that post weird conspiracy theory shit on their FB


[30-Mar-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know what is up with their generation and their contempt for rule of law and the like


[30-Mar-19 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
A sort of alienation perhaps


[30-Mar-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or decades of being pandered to and never being told no by their parents/engaging in commercialized revolt


[30-Mar-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/30/politics/state-department-aid-el-slavador-guatemala-honduras/index.html

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State Department says US cutting off aid to El Salvador, Guatemala...
The United States is cutting off aid to the Northern Triangle, otherwise known as the Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, the State Department told CNN Saturday, one day after President Donald Trump said they had "set up" migrant caravans for en...
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[30-Mar-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 this causes an even bigger surge


[30-Mar-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes that will stop the surge... more emergency


[30-Mar-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically he;s going to close the borders, stop full aid to the northern triangle, and build a non functioning wall*?


[30-Mar-19 09:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*a couple miles of fence and a few yard lights


[30-Mar-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all while damaging our economy to the tune of billions because this also blocks off our southern trade routes


[30-Mar-19 09:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's the weirdest combination of "death before dishonor" thinking and also believing that it will result in victory


[30-Mar-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Commiting suicide will stop my enemies!


[30-Mar-19 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"You think you can kill me? Over my dead body"


[30-Mar-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"What are you going to do, stab me? I'll stab myself and rob you of the satisfaction! it will bring me victory!"


[30-Mar-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'll stop migrants by giving them more reasons to migrate!


[30-Mar-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's the perfect plan!


[30-Mar-19 10:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[31-Mar-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9rsAt_1553887860

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[31-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
they had like 20 fucking minutes to decide what to do


[31-Mar-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
and they decide that lining everyone up with guns pointed and everyone screaming all at once was a good idea


[31-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
if they were actual, reasonable, sane fucking sapient beings and not retarded rape monkeys, they would've had one person covering, the rest ready but not waiting to shoot, and one person go up and wake the guy up


[31-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
you don't need 8 fucking people to shoot one sleeping person


[31-Mar-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is completely and utterly unreasonable


[31-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
and the fuckers are going to go unchallenged for their massive fuck-up


[31-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
just because they're police


[31-Mar-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the family's suing, but so fucking what


[31-Mar-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
"oh im sorry our retarded rape monkeys pretending that they're smarter than a rock decided to shoot your son for literally no fucking reason"


[31-Mar-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/arizona-republican-allegedly-paid-two-boys-10-for-sex-on-numerous-occasions/

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A Republican state representative in Arizona abruptly resigned on Wednesday after refusing to cooperate with a state ethics committee. Late Friday, documents released by the committee alleged that Rep. David Stringer paid two children for sex.
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[31-Mar-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Homosexual ephebephile


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
ephebephile? One of the boys was under 18


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
err, 13


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
err, *at* 13, bah


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy...went out and prostituted a retarded boy and his friend


[31-Mar-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then kept it up for months


[31-Mar-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he got only probation


[31-Mar-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any blakk guy does this, they go to jail for 20 years.


[31-Mar-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, R Kelly might get thrown in jail a good long while cause of consensual watersports with girls older than the retarded boy this guy had blow him.


[31-Mar-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when Stringer said "There aren't enough white kids to go around"...


[31-Mar-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll leave @Itsthinking to finish the joke.


[31-Mar-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTPuoGjQsI

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[31-Mar-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
HERE


[31-Mar-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
WE


[31-Mar-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
GO


[31-Mar-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
F E M O I D S


[31-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-seldom-reported-evidence-could-be-the-reason-why-jussie-smollett-was-cleared-of-all-charges/

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-seldom-reported-evidence-could-be-the-reason-why-jussie-smollett-was-cleared-of-all-charges/
This Seldom-Reported Evidence Could Be the Reason Why Jussie Smoll...
Because Jussie Smollett has been cleared and since the Chicago Police Department isn't the most trustworthy source of information about alleged criminal defendants, it follows that the actor may have been telling the truth as he saw it all along.
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[31-Mar-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
>But that’s actually not the case. Instead, per Smollett’s attorneys, the state made a motion to nolle prosequi–a seldom used Latin term meaning the state “will no longer prosecute.” Such a disposition amounts to a dismissal of charges and is decidedly a far cry from a deferred prosecution agreement which is a form of pre-trial diversion that could eventually result in a criminal case moving forward. Smollett will serve community service “voluntarily” and forfeit $10,000 bond. Prosectors said they “did not exonerate him.”


[31-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't seem particularly rare <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolle_prosequi>


[31-Mar-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
at least, going by how it's described


[31-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's normally done due to lakk of evidence


[31-Mar-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
not "we know he did it, but he said he was sorry"


[31-Mar-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
how to get away with trying to incite a race war


[31-Mar-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
1. be TV star

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[31-Mar-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
so how do you describe the computer models used to simulate the climate and show that things are going to shit to someone who thinks that using computer models at all is a fundamentally flawed way of proving something?


[31-Mar-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure


[31-Mar-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/Are-the-climate-computer-models-wrong

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https://www.quora.com/Are-the-climate-computer-models-wrong
Are the climate computer models wrong? - Quora
No. Climate models have been very accurate. Lets look at them: CLIMATE MODELS HAVE BEEN VERY ACCURATE: Worrisome first quarter of 2017 climate trends » Yale Climate Connections " the close match between projected and observed warming since 1970 su...


[31-Mar-19 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What other way would they have us assess the climate? Moving wooden shapes around on a giant map table? We've got to model it somehow, and it's a lot easier to make computers do the math to test our theories. Which is more accurate, a stop-motion animation of a cloth being draped over a ball, or a computer physics model?


[31-Mar-19 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even if you ignored the models, and just looked at empirical data, *the climate is changing in measurable and negative ways,* it's just a matter of figuring out which model of climate matches that the best and then making computers do the heavy lifting. The computers didn't just make it up on their own


[31-Mar-19 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47762091

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47762091
Facebook calls for government regulation
Mark Zuckerberg writes an open letter calling for new laws to monitor internet content.
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[31-Mar-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
c'mon really


[31-Mar-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm gonna keep selling your info but the government should really be policing facebook for me, right guys?"


[31-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, from a business stand point it makes perfect sense


[31-Mar-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He gets to outsource a good deal of moderation to tax payers


[31-Mar-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And whenever moderation fails, he can just blame the government for not flagging it or not for not encoding a good enough rule


[31-Mar-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FB is too big to care about freedom of expression or private rights or such nonsense, but they're also too big to not be considered liable and a huge lawsuit target


[31-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investigations/Source-Leaked-Documents-Show-the-US-Government-Tracking-Journalists-and-Advocates-Through-a-Secret-Database-506783231.html

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https://www.nbcsandiego.com/investigations/Source-Leaked-Documents-Show-the-US-Government-Tracking-Journalists-and-Advocates-Through-a-Secret-Database-506783231.html
Leaked Documents Show the Government Tracking Journalists
The documents detail an intelligence-gathering effort by the United States and Mexican authorities, targeting more than 50 people including journalists, an attorney, and immigration advocates.
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[31-Mar-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
reminder


[31-Mar-19 04:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-GYqakwHdg

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thejuicemedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-GYqakwHdg
Honest Government Advert | Visit Puerto Rico
The US Government just released this tourism ad for Puerto Rico and it's surprisingly honest and informative. ☛ Our Honest Government Ads are only possible t...
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[31-Mar-19 04:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM

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thejuicemedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAiB2ZoRhM
Honest Government Advert | Visit Hawai'i
The US Government just released this tourism ad for Hawai'i and it's surprisingly honest and informative. ☛ Facebook video link: https://www.facebook.com/jui...
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[31-Mar-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472235222927409156/561723353782812683/s1zg0lgv6yo21.jpg

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[31-Mar-19 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
am I missing something with the color overlay here


[31-Mar-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
probably to prevent twitter from auto flagging it as sensitive media


[31-Mar-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anarcho transhumanist flag


[31-Mar-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
or that


[31-Mar-19 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay yeah figured it was something. 'Cause I know the TG flag looks like marshmallows


[31-Mar-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
:drama:


[31-Mar-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, this is not gonna go well https://www.npr.org/2019/03/27/707258353/facebook-bans-white-nationalism-and-separatism-content-from-its-platforms

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https://www.npr.org/2019/03/27/707258353/facebook-bans-white-nationalism-and-separatism-content-from-its-platforms
Facebook Bans White Nationalism And Separatism Content From Its Pl...
The company says such content is linked to white supremacy and organized hate groups. Users who search for terms related to white supremacy will be directed to an anti-hate site.
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[31-Mar-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
users who *search* these terms?


[31-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*"It's clear that these concepts are deeply linked to organized hate groups and have no place on our services"*


[31-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
YEAH GUYS WE ONLY CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION THIS A WEEK AGO


[31-Mar-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
death to memes


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
AND NOT LIKE, THE PAST FUCKIN' YEAR


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🙄


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
you mean the past decade?


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That too :shrugpony:


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's only come to the forefront in the past 3 years or so


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
but it's been building for over a decade


[31-Mar-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, redirecting searches is gonna cause problems for people watching out for this content


[31-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah, true. Gonna be harder to keep tabs on.


[31-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Unless Facebook plans to *manually* keep shit under control


[31-Mar-19 05:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Instead of implementing TumblrBot 3.5


[31-Mar-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's not as though white supremacy groups haven't found oh, I dunno, 88 ways to hide their speech at least


[31-Mar-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but hey if this gets nazis mad at facebook, in the short term it should make for some good popcorn


[31-Mar-19 05:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't believe Facebook banned all the blue-eyed blonde-haired white chicks 😔 😔 😔


[31-Mar-19 05:56 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
That Transgender thing reads like an Onion article


[31-Mar-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people are worshipping trump because he said "bullshit" at a rally


[31-Mar-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of cringy tbh


[31-Mar-19 06:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He said the word bullshit or what he was saying was bullshit? Never know when Trump is the subject.


[31-Mar-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony he literally said the word bullshit


[31-Mar-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzAlNtEKxc

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Guardian News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzAlNtEKxc
"Ridiculous Bullshit": Donald Trump's Rambling Rally in Michigan
In his first rally since the release of Robert Mueller's report to US Attorney General William Barr, Donald Trump gave a 90-minute diatribe against the media...
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[31-Mar-19 07:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/z8eVYlypRJI

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Comrade Cora
https://youtu.be/z8eVYlypRJI
YTP Dennis Prager EXPOSES the Left's Destruction of America
Tried to take a different angle than just making Dennis say communist stuff for 3 minutes. Twitch: https://twitch.tv/comradecora Patreon: https://patreon.com...
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[31-Mar-19 07:26 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[31-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
No more genders


[31-Mar-19 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Only n word


[31-Mar-19 07:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🤣


[31-Mar-19 07:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump has said "bullshit" many times on the record before


[31-Mar-19 07:54 AM] byte[]#2610
"Almost half of americans say they believe in free pussy, but not for gamers" -Dennis Prager


[31-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation

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https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation
The Largest Mass Deportation in American History
As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign.
https://www.history.com/.image/t_share/MTU3ODc4NTk4NjgyNjE3MTYx/mexican-illegal-immigrants-arrested-1950s-photo-by-keystone-francegamma-keystone-via-getty-images-2.jpg


[31-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives are using this as proof that trump should be more extreme on deportations


[31-Mar-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
because deporting legal american citizens is a good fucking idea


[31-Mar-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
legal residents and citizens were deported at rates up to 60%


[31-Mar-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
just because they were mexican-born or from mexican parents


[31-Mar-19 08:55 AM] Echo#4759
Lotta salt in here


[31-Mar-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
better than raw sewage


[31-Mar-19 08:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Mar-19 09:00 AM] Echo#4759
Lol, exactly


[31-Mar-19 09:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything becoming a US citizen should be made easier tbh


[31-Mar-19 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The pendulum will swing so hard left eventually we will get that


[31-Mar-19 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Calling any minor critique of any policy of the president "salt" is borderline absurd.


[31-Mar-19 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point the meme is used to the point where it's clear no criticism at all is acceptable.


[31-Mar-19 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even something constructive or hypothetical is dimissed as enraged liberalism ranting.


[31-Mar-19 09:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal seems honestly to be to get people to self censor and say nothing for fear of being called irrational haters thus the perspectives can be controlled.


[31-Mar-19 09:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the gist of it yeah


[31-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Echo#4759
That's pure projection


[31-Mar-19 09:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last bit i mean


[31-Mar-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
can you say anything other than "no u" in too many more words?


[31-Mar-19 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Projection?


[31-Mar-19 09:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why even bother taking any political discussion seriously anymore, any serious policy discussion gets you labeled as irrational regardless of how well researched or nuanced your position is


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Echo#4759
The goal of making people self censor out of fear of being called an irrational hater? That's the start and end of the left's playbook


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure about the left pendulum swing, but the self censorship is exactly what they want. They want people to feel like no one will listen to them, because they'll either stew in silent frustration, or join the stepford vocal minority


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
"the left" isn't just a fringe group of screaming SJWs


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just vote and give money to groups that support causes you like


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Functionally anything else


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
that's like saying that every republican is a nazi


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even talking here


[31-Mar-19 09:24 AM] Echo#4759
There's no point in any political discussion. Talking is for people you disagree with, not for people who want to exterminate you


[31-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is completely and utterly pointless


[31-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Donate your money and your vote


[31-Mar-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing else matters


[31-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People never get moved from their positions


[31-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just bravado matches


[31-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And no u


[31-Mar-19 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
only one group came so close to having a perfect system of casual extermination on a widespread scale


[31-Mar-19 09:28 AM] Echo#4759
Then you never learned history, huh?


[31-Mar-19 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Casual Extermination is a good band name.


[31-Mar-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
there's a difference between people dying due to famine and general violence, and casual, systemic extermination


[31-Mar-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
and there's only one group who has done the latter


[31-Mar-19 09:30 AM] Mikey#7286
ah yes the old "the left are evil who want nothing more than to censor and control" b.s. because the right is so perfect


[31-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Mikey#7286
lololol


[31-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh I've seen this regardless of politics with people


[31-Mar-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
they will whine and cry and be as hypocritically salty about being oppressed, then immediately seize power violently given the smallest opportunity


[31-Mar-19 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Known people who just refuse anything other than rote responses to their ideas


[31-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as annoying as the liars who know they are lying but think no one can tell though


[31-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Echo#4759
It's funny. People in this community used to be at least a little original. Now it's just the same rote chants as any other woke circle jerk.
The same lines repeated from the same stupid YouTube channels


[31-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only time I was ever truly concerned was a super odd gun rights activist I talked to once


[31-Mar-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's what happened when they first gained power, and it's what will happen for the rest of history as long as their mode of thought is allowed to exist unchallenged and hiding in the shadows instead of dragged out kicking and screaming and forcefully scrutinized as it should be


[31-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same rote chants eh


[31-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Echo#4759
"forcefully scrutinized", sure 🤔


[31-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how the right wouldn't shut up about Captain Marvel for months


[31-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a dumb superhero movie


[31-Mar-19 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But gotta get those YT clicks


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
public ostracization is nowhere near the level of exterminating millions for not being born "right"


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
but it's being treated as if the two are equal


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway on a lighter note


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Echo#4759
We'll see who drags who. I gave up worrying after hearing shit like this.
Political discussion is only for people you'll share the world with


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah this guy I talked to


[31-Mar-19 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really wanted duelling back


[31-Mar-19 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And was adamant that cutting lines should be justifiable homicide


[31-Mar-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
ostracization is not the same as extermination


[31-Mar-19 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in


[31-Mar-19 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone cuts the line, then they got shot in the back of the head and pushed aside and everyone goes on as normal


[31-Mar-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
logically, anyone not hopped up on hate would see that

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[31-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Mikey#7286
like old west duelling?


[31-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[31-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Mikey#7286
let's bring back stoning, too


[31-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
that's lighter?


[31-Mar-19 09:37 AM] Mikey#7286
stone gay people


[31-Mar-19 09:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also thought "lying" to him (disagreeing with him really) was worthy of homicide


[31-Mar-19 09:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He had issues.


[31-Mar-19 09:38 AM] Mikey#7286
oh wait, that's already happening in another country


[31-Mar-19 09:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Basically want the good parts of Japanese politeness without the shitty aspects


[31-Mar-19 09:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would not survive one day in his ideal world.


[31-Mar-19 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine going to the grocery store and stepping over the bodies because someone was too slow in the cereal aisle


[31-Mar-19 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy wanted that


[31-Mar-19 09:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, I'd be dead as shit


[31-Mar-19 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have you been to a walmart? there would be mass genocide in his ideal world


[31-Mar-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[31-Mar-19 09:42 AM] Macarou#9574
I wonder which would be a worse death, being trampled by feet, shopping carts, or the electric scooters some Walmart shoppers use?


[31-Mar-19 09:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that likely depends on whether it's black friday or not


[31-Mar-19 09:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though death by electric shopping cart requires very unfortunate circumstances


[31-Mar-19 09:46 AM] Macarou#9574
What sort of circumstances?


[31-Mar-19 09:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well first he would need to be incapacitated enough to not move. Those scooters aren't terribly fast. He'd have to be like the guy from Deadpool that got killed with the Zamboni.


[31-Mar-19 09:47 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh my, sounds painful


[31-Mar-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you could maybe tie a person to 4 of them and do the death by quartering thing but that would be intentional and not a terrible accident


[31-Mar-19 09:49 AM] Macarou#9574
And also  horribly gruesome


[31-Mar-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trampling isnt really going to happen outside of black friday


[31-Mar-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or holiday sales in general


[31-Mar-19 09:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
death by cart is an interestign thing though as that would probably require a string of runaway carts lost by a cart pusher


[31-Mar-19 09:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking as a former cart pusher it wouldn;t be entirely out of the realm to lose control witohut the machine


[31-Mar-19 09:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it took immense concentration just to steer those things without it


[31-Mar-19 09:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need muscle reflexes, good timing, and the ability to steer around distracted people


[31-Mar-19 09:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again my walmart was a special case


[31-Mar-19 09:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most walmarts nowadays have a proper cart bay at the front of the store


[31-Mar-19 09:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine had a single door behind a very massive support beam thATyou had to steer around


[31-Mar-19 09:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you had to steer more carts down to the mall entrance


[31-Mar-19 09:55 AM] Macarou#9574
That sounds painful  to navigate


[31-Mar-19 09:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was very


[31-Mar-19 09:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part about the support beam is that charities and scouts kept anchorign their tables to it


[31-Mar-19 09:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i had to dodge those as well


[31-Mar-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol some dumbass going "the left is out to exterminate us" because...because of saying people should be able to criticize the president?


[31-Mar-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
FYI to anyone wondering, even Republicans are not in fact rabid dogs dressed up as a political party


[31-Mar-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Echo's entire thing is one of the natural consequences of Conservative thinking


[31-Mar-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the primary issue American Conservatives see in the world is that the WRONG PEOPLE (read: "blakk, gay, or muslim") are up in the hierarchy


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the left clearly can't actually want equality it has to just want to put the blakks, gays, and musilms at the top and all them good white folk at the bottom


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
something something always a minority being opressed something something


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Echo#4759
Oh my God, you're literally quoting from something that got posted all over reddit yesterday


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
prove it


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Echo#4759
This is what I meant by the complete loss of original thinking


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
citation needed


[31-Mar-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean the video, I'm actually not quoting it, but I'm using its ideas


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it's a pretty good summarization of conservative thought


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
what video?


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing is original, and I'm not just parrotting BS


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Echo#4759
Yes, you are


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen these patterns in conservatives before and since


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
this is a good video about public ostracization https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqqTHs397Y

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[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Go fukk yourself tbh


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's called "always a bigger fish", Crow


[31-Mar-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
part of the Alt Right Playbook series


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
from a guy who analyzes tactics of the alt right and tries to condense them down into understandable pieces and how to fight them etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
original thoughts are hard to come by sicne so many thoughts have been had over the course of humanity


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
I think I've seen a couple of those videos floating around, but I haven't watched any of them


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lol jumping to conclusions on Beau


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
An original thought is to put mangos in the toaster


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Beau is based


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
A smart thought is to use the toaster for toast.


[31-Mar-19 10:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why essay citations are a very annoying thing


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
When your only criticism is that someone didn't completely independently conceive their idea, that's a pretty stupid criticism.


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
now that reminds me of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vgl3v8rjj8

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[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
1.Turn to strange ideas.
2.Try to be a random person.
3.Welcome the unexpected.


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Echo#4759
I wouldn't mind so much, but you all sound exactly the same


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Me and Its disagree all the time


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
you haven't been here long enough to make that claim


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we look the same to you because we both disagree with you


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder.


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the topic of interest


[31-Mar-19 10:02 AM] Mikey#7286
gays are bad!


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
granted, you've been here for months, but the last time you said anything, you were too busy being a lemondrop groupie to actually say anything meaningful


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey I'll do a crime against u bucko


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Echo#4759
Because you're all repeating the same handful of bullshit YouTuber propaganda and telling yourself you're clever


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
More importantly, because me and Its both listen to, you know, actual data


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
transgenderism leads to cyborgs!


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That video is a lot of things, but it isn't propaganda


[31-Mar-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you actually watched it?


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It primarily builds up a theoretical basis for the differences in mindset between the two sides


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda)

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[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Echo#4759
Yes. His entire channel is propaganda


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you didn't watch it and are a liar, k.


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
the idea of forming an opinion about something after experiencing it is too alien to comprehend


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Implying propaganda bad


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Perhaps we should kill pony then


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which video are we talking about?


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't even bother, Aaron


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Echo#4759
Fucking look at the titles of his videos. Look at the crazy fucking comments


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
MLP is technically propaganda


[31-Mar-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy just lied while admitting he's lying.


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's to make us buy horse merch


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
onoes, crazy comments


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
on youtube


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
the world is ending


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The funny thing is


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I looked at that vid's comments


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and most of them were people going "well, yes, I'm a conservative and this is scarily accurate"


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Echo is implicitly lying further about looking at that video's comments


[31-Mar-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he conflated the comments on reddit with them tho


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Echo#4759
You think I'm lying? I knew the video you were talking about before you posted it, and called you out for parroting it? And you think I'm not familiar with the channel?


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, I'm sure you've labelled the channel


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've looked at the titles


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've heard people talk about them


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you clearly hav not watched the videos


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor, apparently, looked at the comments on that particular video.


[31-Mar-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, yes, you are lying.


[31-Mar-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty damn obvious that you don't intend to actually debate the content of them *because you don't want to know the content of them*


[31-Mar-19 10:07 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just want to label the whole thing propaganda and therefore dismiss everything it has to say.


[31-Mar-19 10:07 AM] Echo#4759
Yes, I have. It's a really well done propaganda channel. He's got the "good old boy who just happens to think all the things your college sociology professor does" act down pat


[31-Mar-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so you've never been to university, I see


[31-Mar-19 10:08 AM] Echo#4759
What? I graduated years ago


[31-Mar-19 10:08 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And did you actually take sociology?


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really sounds like you did not.


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given you seem to be referring to, of all things, a *stereotype* of a college professor.


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what is even the point?


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
I took an anthropology class a few years ago, professor was very excitable about anything having to do with human behavior


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not going to convince me of anything by using dumb alt-right stereotypes to try to say something.


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Echo#4759
Are you just saying random things you think are insulting? (not going to university is perfectly fine, and it's both stupid and _unprogressive_ to think otherwise, BTW)


[31-Mar-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anthropology and sociology are different fields, Crow


[31-Mar-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I took both in the same semester, btw


[31-Mar-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[31-Mar-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm saying what you're saying is literally like half just filler bullshit


[31-Mar-19 10:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He doesn't want to send everyone to the Platonic Academy

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[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you're trying to disaparage a channel because he is supposedly doing some act that is based off of specific alt-right stereotypes about the college system


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
even the human exterminators had animal rights


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Echo#4759
And you jumped to "alt-right talking points" almost instantly. No use talking to a bot


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol now you're on NPC shit


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10 label me harder daddy


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or "box" me


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
did you look in a mirror while making that statement, or can you not see your own reflection while brushing your teeth


[31-Mar-19 10:11 AM] Echo#4759
Mate, everything you've said tonight has been copied from YouTube channels


[31-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
prove it


[31-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Echo#4759
Look at yourself


[31-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's funny considering that channel is like the only one I watch on the matter and I've only seen like three vids from it


[31-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
I've been spending the past 3 hours self-reflecting until you decided to pretend you could do better than lemondrop


[31-Mar-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's great tho you're trying to...what is it called? Poison the well?


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, poison the well.


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
at least lemondrop had his own opinions


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's something a YouTuber also said


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and reiterating that is bad


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything you say can just be ignored!


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or moreover


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the YouTuber has not been 100% perfect


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore everything they say can just be ignored


[31-Mar-19 10:13 AM] Echo#4759
It's just repeating what you saw on TV last night.


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if it's said by someone else too


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
I don't even have a television


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, sometimes the TV is right


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if I'm parroting to you something that is the general consensus among scientists


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
well I do, but it's not set up because there's nothing to watch


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should you not believe me?


[31-Mar-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just because I might hav skipped complete formal skepticism of it?


[31-Mar-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're poisoning the well.


[31-Mar-19 10:15 AM] Echo#4759
Read a book (not the same one everyone else is reading right now). Read another one, and synthesize your thoughts about them yourself.
That's how you get ideas from other people without just parroting them


[31-Mar-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've read a lot of books, watched a lot of videos, read a lot of articles


[31-Mar-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've been figuring out conservative ideology since I was 10


[31-Mar-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh but GUYS


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just used a particular arrangement of ideas THAT A YOUTUBER PUT TOGETHER


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we can ignore everything he says!


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice well-poisoning.


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone else is readign every other book


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[31-Mar-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I spend like half my time in this channel


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you arent going to read a book that no one else has read unless you;re the first person to read the book


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
>gook


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
telling liberals who don't get conservatives just how evil conservatives are as people


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
damn vietnam vets being racist >:V


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've been doing this long before that video came out


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Echo#4759
It's the difference between inspiration and plagiarism. Or in this case, the difference between having an interesting thought vs swallowing whatever you saw contrapoints larping about most recently


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The info in that video just helps summarize it


[31-Mar-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it presents a better framework to discuss the differences in.


[31-Mar-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, I could revert to the old way


[31-Mar-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where I hav to extensively rely on Ayn Rand stuff and talk about how MUH PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is what makes conservatives different and evil


[31-Mar-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
alongside an insistence on obedience to the system (usually gov't, but not always)


[31-Mar-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then in passing talk about how they tend to see liberals as non-genuine cause liberals act like they actually believe in things and aren't just self-interested etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:20 AM] Echo#4759
You're right, this is a much faster and more efficient way to demonize the enemy.
And you'll have the advantage that a thousand others just like you will be repeating exactly the same message at the same time


[31-Mar-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the Always-a-bigger-fish framework creates a nice simplified dichotomy of worldview


[31-Mar-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
"demonize"


[31-Mar-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, virtually all the time I'm relying on this stuff


[31-Mar-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's after a liberal has decided Republicans are pure evil


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm trying to explain to them that Republicans actually hav an ideology that makes the results a consequence


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because you have such original thoughts yourself


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Republicans are not in fact just mistakes or whatever


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
everyone feels like their thoughts are new and original, up until they google it and realize literally millions of other people have had the same thoughts already


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, where people like you get hung up in this is


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
>like you


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't like liberals knowing your ideology


[31-Mar-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
REEEEEEEE


[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Echo#4759
Ahh yes, "the enemy as a mistake to be corrected". That's always a good start


[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause liberals tend to see your ideology as literally evil


[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly cause it's super immoral


[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least under most rational forms of utilitarianism and Kantianism

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[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
ben shapiro got triggered a week or two ago because someone brought up some anti-jewish tweet he made back in 2012


[31-Mar-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some specific forms of Kantianism make it moral


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
using the same "anti-jewish talking points" house republicans tried to accuse omar of using


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I like how you completely missed what I said


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, *someone else* thinks Republicans are a mistake


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I then tell them that no


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav actual explainable causes


[31-Mar-19 10:23 AM] Echo#4759
I wish you could listen to yourself. Maybe you'll figure it out in a few years, or maybe you'll just move on to different YouTube channels


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic tactic


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
tbh sometimes you refer to conservatism as if it's authoritarian, when it isn't necessarily so, conservatism just more naturally gravitates towards it (the US libertarian party is a more extreme example of non-authoritarian conservatism)


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your enemy starts making sense


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
or you can't figure out what they're saying


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
or really if they're just doing anything different


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
just accuse them of what you originally did


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using the same fallacies and everything.


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Echo#4759
You're not making sense, mate. You're pretty much rambling


[31-Mar-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bla bla bla YOUTUBE etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further evidence you havn't actually watched that guy's vids


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't in them.


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you think it is cause you've put me in that box.


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say, tell me


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
of the last...1000 words or so I've said


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
which one was in those vids?


[31-Mar-19 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
how many wells does the same guy have to poison before the tribe wises up and throws them out for the lions?


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather, which....term I guess.


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jargon.


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
talking points?


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
buzz words?


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, not buzz words.


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buzz words are used all over.


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jargon is very specific etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
techno babble


[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism

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[31-Mar-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no, techno babble is fake


[31-Mar-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
jargon is using a domain-specific word to mean a certain thing in that context


[31-Mar-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
usually to make it hard for outsiders to get in while allowing insiders to communicate faster


[31-Mar-19 10:27 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Echo#4759
All of the last 1k words came from that guy who did the series on conservative thinking that also went around reddit the other day


[31-Mar-19 10:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, who


[31-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Echo#4759
Let me see if I can find that one


[31-Mar-19 10:28 AM] Echo#4759
Can you link to it to save me time?


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOL


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
wow okay, you didn't watch them.


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why would I look for someone that probably doesn't exist?


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or is this like god


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's BOX


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where-in he only exists as a human concwpt


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The jargon was box as a verb


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont even know who we;re talking about


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Concept*


[31-Mar-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a whole alt-right playbook video on putting your opponent into boxes


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I literally dropped it there and then immediately asked you which words


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have not at all watched those videos most likely


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you couldn't do it


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause you havn't seen the vids


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) I am gifting you this metaphor. Use it well.

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[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
It comes with a free Tractatus


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Echo#4759
Mate I just told you exactly what video series you were parroting. From memory. _again_


[31-Mar-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhaha


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
m8


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
meight


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I only use the 8 when I'm truly meming cause you just got rekt


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I asked you for specifics


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I put out a whole bunch of stuff not from those vids


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
then immediately used a metaphor at the end that is THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF ONE VIDEO


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then asked you which part was from those vids


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You couldn't do it.


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ergo


[31-Mar-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
you never watched the videos.


[31-Mar-19 10:32 AM] Echo#4759
So, uh, how did I recognize that you were regurgitating them?


[31-Mar-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't.


[31-Mar-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You claimed I did while I wasn't.


[31-Mar-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I deliberately spat out a bit of one and you were unable to notice it.


[31-Mar-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[31-Mar-19 10:33 AM] Echo#4759
Seriously, just get over the fact that you're spewing other people's ideas. There's no shame in it if you do it in a non - cringy way


[31-Mar-19 10:33 AM] Echo#4759
The word "box"? Seriously


[31-Mar-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using box as a verb isn't a common thing.


[31-Mar-19 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
.p metal bawkses


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[31-Mar-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually one of the funnier things in the reimagined BSG series


[31-Mar-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I'LL HAVE YOU BOXED!"


[31-Mar-19 10:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p wittgenstein


[31-Mar-19 10:36 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[31-Mar-19 10:36 AM] Echo#4759
This entire conversation has been you repeating two YouTube channels verbatim. Please turn around for a second and look at how you're doing the _exact same thing they say everyone you don't like is doing_


[31-Mar-19 10:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yet you never name any. Must be a straw man. We're already in ad hom turf so I think I'm safe in saying you are not die Weltfeist here.


[31-Mar-19 10:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Es ist mich


[31-Mar-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm actually curious what other channel he'd name lol


[31-Mar-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Considering I've only watched one within like the last year on the matter of conservative beliefs and arguing with them.


[31-Mar-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I bet it's got a super edgy name


[31-Mar-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh ooh, maybe it's about KANTIANISM?


[31-Mar-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or Objectivism or something


[31-Mar-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like those are actual moral philosophies that you could read about on your own


[31-Mar-19 10:39 AM] Echo#4759
I can narrow the other one down to three. Either philosophy tube, the douchebag who did the "angry jack" series, or that Shawn(?) prick


[31-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well I havn't watched any of those three


[31-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Echo#4759
Ah well, 2/3 ain't bad


[31-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
2/3 of what?


[31-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I literally havn't watched those three.


[31-Mar-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any of them.


[31-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Echo#4759
YouTube channels you parroted that I guessed from having seen them on the same subreddits you saw them on


[31-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I read about Kantianism in a textbook in college and hav only recently thought about it because of watching The Good Place


[31-Mar-19 10:41 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I don't visit any political subreddits


[31-Mar-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've got to understand here, literally the only media I've seen about Kantianism is a sitcom


[31-Mar-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very funny and intellectual sitcom


[31-Mar-19 10:42 AM] Echo#4759
Where did you encounter Mr. "good old southern boy here to tell you how evil conservatives are."?


[31-Mar-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's not something that's anything to do with the bullshit you're spewing


[31-Mar-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Echo#4759
First video, with the dumb beard


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean me talking to liberals


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't present myself as a good old southern boy


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the time I'm talking to people I've known for 4+ years


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
like Wingbeat or Its


[31-Mar-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and I'm just pounding into them that they're wrong cause they keep making dumb assumptions like that Republicans *care* about image or such


[31-Mar-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav to then go to extremes to indicate to them that everything Trump is doing is pretty much well within the expected.


[31-Mar-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat had the same problem with SJUWs


[31-Mar-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just couldn't understand how people could actually support the things SJUWs do


[31-Mar-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I could


[31-Mar-19 10:45 AM] Echo#4759
Man, you've completely lost it


[31-Mar-19 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
then why are you still here?


[31-Mar-19 10:45 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of annoying when you're three steps ahead of people around you because you ruminate on things for way longer than they do


[31-Mar-19 10:46 AM] Echo#4759
You're not three steps ahead mate. You're tagging along nicely behind new media influencers


[31-Mar-19 10:47 AM] Crow#5457
says the guy who's literally said "no u" for the past 2 hours


[31-Mar-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[31-Mar-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, if you want


[31-Mar-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could talk about a subject that popular youtubers don't


[31-Mar-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of my favorite ones is the war against the Midians in the Book of Numbers


[31-Mar-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And using it to explain sex inequality as a practical matter in Judeo-Christian history


[31-Mar-19 10:49 AM] Echo#4759
I'm surprised you haven't watched those other two I named though. Not into the " the fash and also all Republicans and most liberals are fash" thing yet?


[31-Mar-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes I bring that one up when people talk about how abortion is TOTES about the life of the child


[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Mikey#7286
relying on or watching any YT talking head, liberal or conservative is stupid tbh


[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
to indicate quite strongly that there's a reason religious types hate abortion and it's nothing to do with valuing individual rights.


[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Echo#4759
Hahaha, hang on a sec. That was all over Twitter... Yesterday?


[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Jacob spent 14 years working for some guy cause he wanted to marry Rebekah but he had to marry her older sister too 7 for each daughter and another few years for the flock


[31-Mar-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
What was all over twitter?


[31-Mar-19 10:51 AM] Echo#4759
The Bible quote


[31-Mar-19 10:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what bible quote?


[31-Mar-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which verses?


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pls tell me it was Numbers 31:18


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the juicy one I love to shokk people with


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
err, 17-18


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] Echo#4759
I'm still trying to remember the context, but it was one of those "gotcha evil Christians" tweets that gets 300k retweers


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
m8


[31-Mar-19 10:52 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That verse isn't gotcha evil Christians


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Numbers is old testament


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's from the Old Testament


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I only use it to explain the historics


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how that informs the present


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/world/europe/britain-asylum-seeker-christianity.html

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[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern Christians don't actually defend the OT


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least not unless they want to stone the gays


[31-Mar-19 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
the west is really really really bad at culture wars nowadays


[31-Mar-19 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they start quoting it hoping nobody can tell it's the OT and not the NT lol


[31-Mar-19 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
saudi arabia (and radical islam in general) and china are walking all over the west in terms of culture projection


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] Mikey#7286
lol just disregard the entire thing, it's just a bogus fairy tale glorified fiction


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I can assure you no modern christian sect honestly wants to kill civilians in that manner


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] Echo#4759
No shit. What sane person would want what the west is selling?


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] Honahue#0656
The West only cultural products are things that are profitable


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly can't want to study Confucianism at the new Confucian Academy of the Mid West. Thank you Comrade Xi! Nothing ever happened in Tianamen Square. You joining me in the autumn semester fellow student Honahue?


[31-Mar-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Numbers 31:17-18 is *gold* for shattering people's idyllic views of ancient humanity


[31-Mar-19 10:56 AM] Honahue#0656
North Korea stages like operas and gymnastics stuff cause it's Thursday


[31-Mar-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, it takes a few other things to properly cement the proper view


[31-Mar-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Numbers 31:17-18 is how you just bomb their foundations


[31-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Macarou#9574
What, pray tell, is in Numbers 31:17-18? It sounds amazing


[31-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
'17Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.'


[31-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, this needs a slight translation and putting into context


[31-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moses has just had them defeat the Midians


[31-Mar-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just brought to him all the civilan prisoners, women and children essentially


[31-Mar-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's then telling them that god says to KILL EM ALL except the 12 year old and under girls (any over 12 would hav definitely slept with a man, or at least be presumed to)


[31-Mar-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, a modern writer may put it as this:


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Now kill all but the young girls, who you may keep for *whatever* you want."


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the caveat you had to marry them first etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Honahue#0656
The average age of menarche outside the West is 14 not 12


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Macarou#9574
Now ain't that a picture.


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you totally could marry a 6 year old at the time


[31-Mar-19 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if her father was dead, well, who's gonna say you can't?


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Age of menarche isn't relevant here


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's whether they're believed to hav slept with a man, ever


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that can be done well before


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
That's when most cultures say a girl.is a woman


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but this isn't saying when a girl is a woman


[31-Mar-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying when a girl is probably no longer a virgin


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
She could've had her brother put his hand down her pants and is no longer pure etc.


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and has to be killed.


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Are you sure? Cause a lot of times virgin just means young women cause they were the same word


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't say virgin


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They say slept with a man


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Echo#4759
You just picked 12 arbitrarily


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
or "known a man"


[31-Mar-19 11:01 AM] Echo#4759
It means "married"


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Echo#4759
Not "12"


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not entirely, 12 is often cited when this is analyzed in a theological context


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, it doesn't mean married


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're talking about whether the girl has *ever* had sex, or at least is believed to hav ever had sex


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[31-Mar-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marriage age was *below* 12 at the time


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was 12 during medieval times in Europe


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Only for royals


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Echo#4759
No, it was much, much higher in medieval europe


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Peasent were sensible


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the ancient middle east, marriage age would be essentially unlimited on the lower bound


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arranged marriages being very common


[31-Mar-19 11:03 AM] Echo#4759
Higher than in the 18th-20th centuries, iirc


[31-Mar-19 11:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Peasent weren't worried about alliances and inheritance so they married like normal folk


[31-Mar-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Average marriage age doesn't matter here


[31-Mar-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would've killed any that were married *plus* any believed old enuff to hav likely slept with a guy


[31-Mar-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
or they would've chekked hymens of 12-year-olds etc.


[31-Mar-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which is unreliable of course)


[31-Mar-19 11:08 AM] Honahue#0656
I still don't understand this idea that people were making babies at 12 in ancient world, it'd be a high risk pregnancy in today's medicine let alone "you got ghosts in your blood" era medicine. People aren't so dumb or we'd have died out already


[31-Mar-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't birth the baby at 12


[31-Mar-19 11:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Weddings in the middle ages formed the groundwork for most of the modern wedding customs and traditions. Noble women typically married when they got to the age of 24 or older, compared to peasants who married at a younger age of 12 years. Overall, in Europe most people married by the time they reached 19 years." http://www.thefinertimes.com/Middle-Ages/marriage-in-the-middle-ages.html

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[31-Mar-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You start the sex at 12


[31-Mar-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
iirc I saw a study which claimed that having a baby after puberty (14-15) is actually overall healthier for women in the cases that they're able to survive natural birth


[31-Mar-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The birth likely happens in 13-14


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
like longer lifespan, less physiological and hormonal problems later in life, etc


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes it's high risk


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it has significant benefits


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The faster your tribe reproduces, the faster your tribe expands


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah if she lives you can get more out but if she's ded doesn't really gelp


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you start having too many die, you raid another tribe for more girls


[31-Mar-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
granted, doing nothing but pumping babies out 24/7 as nature intended is unhealthy in the long run


[31-Mar-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho realistically, you raid another tribe for more girls *anyways*


[31-Mar-19 11:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, not really.


[31-Mar-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the only way hunter-gatherers could operate, and it takes a lot of stable agriculture to hav the population size that inbreeding isn't such a threat so that you actually don't want to raid as much


[31-Mar-19 11:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Unless it's the Bible and god keeps telling them to stay within the tribes


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
More often it was encouraged to marry outside the tribe, but not a "assemble the warband and raid a village" deal.


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Honahue#0656
He does


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's too bad that humanity didn't go extinct from rejecting widespread rape as a viable reproduction tactic


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep your own women within the tribe


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you take in girls from other tribes


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Honahue#0656
He straight up tells Jacob to go back to we're his mother's brother lives and marry his daughter


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you don't fool around, you marry for life etc.


[31-Mar-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also don't enter another tribe for marriage


[31-Mar-19 11:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, you let them marry outside too, because inter-family ties between tribes keeps strong local alliances and coalitions on the basis of shared filial heritage.


[31-Mar-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is you want your tribe big


[31-Mar-19 11:13 AM] Honahue#0656
And you do fool around you fuck.her the sister and their servents


[31-Mar-19 11:13 AM] Honahue#0656
This is Genesis stuff


[31-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if we're talking about the anthropological pre-history of humanity or the bible anymore


[31-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm talking about the story of Jacob


[31-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Cause we started with the Bible


[31-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the point is women are basically glorified renewable resources in the OT


[31-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I was doing the full argument I'd get into why hunter-gatherers raid each other, the genetic evidence that women in the ancient world "traveled a lot" etc.


[31-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the ultimate goal would be to say that Christianity started from viewing woman as resources and has still not left that idea


[31-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's highly suspicious that non-religious groups basically never say the fetus has rights etc., yet that's the argument Christians make


[31-Mar-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause a lot of different groups value individual rights


[31-Mar-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity in general isn't one of them


[31-Mar-19 11:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Abraham himself had a child first with Sarah's serevnt cause she was barren and old


[31-Mar-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
was it ever explained how humans became populous from only a single male and a single female?


[31-Mar-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
iirc I saw some thing claiming that it was because the first humans lived centuries because of god's power or whatever


[31-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
and they were genetically "pure", so no bad incest effects


[31-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Cain leaves to the city of Nod even though Adam and Eve had only recently left Eden


[31-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if that's actually in the bible, or just made-up rationalizations based off of modern knowledge of genetics


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nod existed in the Bible. There were others.


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's actually, like, a huge family tree from Adama and Eve IIRC


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kinda dumb


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Honahue#0656
But Jews don't think Eden was literal anyway that's a dumb American thing


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's up there with certain fanfiction


[31-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
since I'm pretty sure most people knew about the negative effects of incest thousands of years ago just by anecdotal evidence


[31-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's why we have an anti-incest instinct to begin with


[31-Mar-19 11:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well most everyone but Christians don't believe Adam and Even were even expelled from Eden as punishment because no one else has to have a self fulfilling prophecy to establish its canon.


[31-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Honahue#0656
The Greeks wrote it as being an afront to the gods


[31-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Westermarck Effect is highly debated btw


[31-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't seem to be reproducible.


[31-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh


[31-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
given everything I know about human psychology and evolution, I really doubt we hav a particularly strong anti-incest instinct


[31-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe against parents, sure


[31-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Honahue#0656
It depends on the animals, rabbits can do fine with some inbreeding


[31-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
but when it comes to siblings and cousins, we do a loooot of incest


[31-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it mostly seems beneficial to do at least cousin incest


[31-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause of very high mobility between groups


[31-Mar-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also we hav people in an area that became one of the leading world powers with multiple recessive traits visible on their damn faces


[31-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That requires a **lot** of incest.


[31-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it requires that incest to work in their favor, pretty much.


[31-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Well it has to not be harmful anyway


[31-Mar-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
incest in small amounts isnt bad, it;s when you start chaining that it becomes harmful


[31-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm pretty sure siblings it's bad right away


[31-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
With siblings it means carriers for recessive traits leads to guaranteed recessives in the offspring.


[31-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not necessarily bad right away, but it often is.


[31-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same for cousins.


[31-Mar-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the argument here is that maybe incest is worth it and our recessive traits aren't bad enuff


[31-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
from what I've read, the chances of genetic defects from having offspring between first cousins is on the order of 0.01-0.1% increased chance


[31-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
to the point of being statistically disregardable


[31-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Crow#5457
that was assuming there had been no other recent incest going on


[31-Mar-19 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12217805&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

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Christchurch terror attack: Accused gunman complains about lack of...
Christchurch terror-accused makes complaint from prison about lack of entitlements.
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[31-Mar-19 11:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Friendly reminders.

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[31-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
what a whiny baby


[31-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
shooter should have no internet access whatsoever


[31-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
give him a landline lol


[31-Mar-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesnt get the name recognition he wanted thanks to new zealand having mroe integrity than the US news, which is probably driving him up a wall as well


[31-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
>A prison director may also deny a prisoner access to the minimum entitlements if they are in segregation "for purposes of security, good order, or safety; or for the purpose of protective custody".


[31-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
hahaha get fucked you little cuck


[31-Mar-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly they probably shouldnt have even given him a bed


[31-Mar-19 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/30/exit-polls-zuzana-caputova-poised-to-become-slovakia-s-first-female-president

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Liberal lawyer becomes Slovakia's first female president
Anti-corruption lawyer Zuzana Caputova was propelled to power by revolt over the murder of a journalist.
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[31-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not giving someone a bed is actually likely in violation of international law on human rights and it's petty fukking vengeance to do it to someone you hav lokked up.


[31-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
that isn't the complaint


[31-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Denying him visitors and phone access is a reasonable move to prevent him trying to get his views on a soapbox etc.


[31-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not giving him media to consume however is a problem


[31-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is almost certainly intended as a psychological tactic to drive him crazy by not letting him know how infamous he is, and in general depriving him of something to use his brainpower considering


[31-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NZ shooter listening to the radio is not a threat to anyone.


[31-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
As far as human rights goes, it's murky.


[31-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general there's protections against actively doing stuff, but not so much anything that says you hav to giv them more than a bed, toilet, food, and water.


[31-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
But where it might become a violation is when you hav stuff you normally giv to keep people sane and you exclude one person as an attempt to destroy his mental health.


[31-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally


[31-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
No visitors or phone access is a reasonable move *for the purposes above*


[31-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it also presents a problem because if has no human contact, and he *is* separated from the other prisoners...


[31-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That can legit drive people crazy


[31-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be most reasonable to require approval of phone calls and monitor them.


[31-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that he can talk to grandma but get it shut down if he tries to get her to publish his ideas etc.


[31-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to whether the complaint is valid, if I'm reading this correctly, it without a doubt is.


[31-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The exceptions outlined for denying the minimums don't cover his situation.


[31-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They all refer to potentially causing trouble in the prison


[31-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
but these things are being done to punish him and prevent causing trouble *outside* the prison.


[31-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Give him some books


[31-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's media


[31-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Separation from other prisoners makes sense, it'd be punishing them


[31-Mar-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/31/article-50-petition-to-cancel-brexit-passes-6m-signatures

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Article 50 petition to cancel Brexit passes 6m signatures
Milestone hit a day and a half after Britain was originally meant to have left EU
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[31-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
Useless petition


[31-Mar-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/29/mps-reject-theresa-mays-brexit-deal-third-time

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May hopes to hold fourth vote on Brexit deal
Election also on the cards after MPs reject withdrawal agreement by 58 votes
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[31-Mar-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Why does she hope to do anything at this point tbh


[31-Mar-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Just resign


[31-Mar-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
You failed


[31-Mar-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she hope to hold a fourth vote for the same failed deal again


[31-Mar-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
may just make a new fucking deal or resign


[31-Mar-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
she can't make a new deal


[31-Mar-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the only valid one she could make is by renegotiating with the EU member states, which could take weeks


[31-Mar-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
or months


[31-Mar-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
she has _days_


[31-Mar-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it's hopeless


[31-Mar-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so she fucked herself into a corner and can;t fuck her way back out


[31-Mar-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
she didn't


[31-Mar-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
The UKIP fucked the entire british economy


[31-Mar-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Delayed action


[31-Mar-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610

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[31-Mar-19 05:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
She could revoke A50 then have it start again so she can have a new withdrawal agreement.


[31-Mar-19 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ozp29yqplfp21.jpg

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[31-Mar-19 06:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
pfft


[31-Mar-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
wingbutt


[31-Mar-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
hey wingbutt


[31-Mar-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Mar-19 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
is this a real headline wtf


[31-Mar-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing fox news


[31-Mar-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[31-Mar-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
can you fact check this


[31-Mar-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
fox news is dumb but even i am skeptical


[31-Mar-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/436612-fox-friends-displays-headline-about-3-mexican-countries

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'Fox & Friends' apologizes for headline about '3 Mexican Countries'
"Fox & Friends Weekend" apologized on Sunday after displaying a graphic referring to "3 Mexican countries," drawing attention on social media.
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[31-Mar-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[31-Mar-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
holy shit


[31-Mar-19 07:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/lcvelez/status/1112326140054654976?s=21

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3 Mexican countries!. There is only one Mexico. Guatemala, El Salvador y Honduras are other three different countries. This is what happens when ignorance and racism meet 🙈
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[31-Mar-19 07:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Okay I’m late


[31-Mar-19 07:18 PM] illumnious#7938
But that’s fucking funny


[31-Mar-19 07:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-Mar-19 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LEPRECHAUN GANG


[31-Mar-19 07:30 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Everyone knows there are only two mexican countries: Cold Mexico and Hot Mexico


[31-Mar-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what about underground mexico?


[31-Mar-19 08:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🤔 :ponythinking: :thonk:


[31-Mar-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
home of the mole mexicans


[31-Mar-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Libs status: owned


[31-Mar-19 08:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Such a blatant error is clear indication of their intent to target Gamers


[31-Mar-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Gamers rise up


[31-Mar-19 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/notglacier/status/1111859340602859520

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Messing around a bit more

you can do indirect lighting and stuff now https://t.co/X8q3msBen7
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[31-Mar-19 08:41 PM] Mikey#7286
neat


[31-Mar-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/1112036866381930496?s=19

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Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey)
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If you’re wondering what fascism leads to, just ask Benito Mussolini and his mistress Claretta.
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[31-Mar-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
JIM CAR REY COMING IN HOT AND READY


[31-Mar-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Mussolini's grand daughter is pissed


[31-Mar-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Good


[31-Mar-19 09:55 PM] RYDE#8862
What kind of execution is this?


[31-Mar-19 09:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
The sort you give after they've been shot.


[31-Mar-19 10:09 PM] RYDE#8862
Meaning that after you get shot, you get hanged up by your feet, right?


[31-Mar-19 10:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's how the Italians dealt with Mussolini


[31-Mar-19 10:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
And that's what that drawing is depicting


[31-Mar-19 10:11 PM] RYDE#8862
Their blood is rushing to their head though.


[31-Mar-19 10:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
No heart beat to pump it through. It's all running to the head


[31-Mar-19 10:12 PM] RYDE#8862
I bet it's quite painful isn't it?


[31-Mar-19 10:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini

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Death of Benito Mussolini
The death of Benito Mussolini, the deposed Italian fascist dictator, occurred on 28 April 1945, in the final days of World War II in Europe, when he was summarily executed by Italian partisans in the small village of Giulino di Mezzegra in northern Italy. The “official” v...
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[31-Mar-19 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
"In the evening of 28 April, the bodies of Mussolini, Petacci, and the other executed fascists were loaded onto a van and trucked south to Milan. On arriving in the city in the early hours of 29 April, they were dumped on the ground in the Piazzale Loreto, a suburban square near the main railway station.[40][41] The choice of location was deliberate. Fifteen partisans had been shot there in August 1944 in retaliation for partisan attacks and Allied bombing raids, and their bodies had then been left on public display. At the time, Mussolini is said to have remarked "for the blood of Piazzale Loreto, we shall pay dearly".[41]

Their bodies were left in a heap, and by 9:00 a.m. a considerable crowd had gathered. The corpses were pelted with vegetables, spat at, urinated on, shot at and kicked; Mussolini's face was disfigured by beatings.[42][43] An American eye witness described the crowd as "sinister, depraved, out of control".[43] After a while, the bodies were hoisted up on to the metal girder framework of a half-built Standard Oil service station, and hung upside down on meat hooks.[42][43][44] This mode of hanging had been used in northern Italy since medieval times to stress the "infamy" of the hanged. However, the reason given by those involved in hanging Mussolini and the others in this way was to protect the bodies from the mob. Movie footage of what happened appears to confirm that to be the case."


[31-Mar-19 10:20 PM] RYDE#8862
Interesting.


[31-Mar-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://news.avclub.com/political-artist-jim-carrey-is-feuding-with-benito-muss-1833701075

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Political artist Jim Carrey is feuding with Benito Mussolini's gra...
Today in “this would be pretty hard to explain to your grandparents” news: Current political artist/former Cable Guy Jim Carrey is now apparently in an internet feud with the granddaughter of reviled Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Carrey earned the ire of Alessandra M...
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[31-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Guy couldn't beat Ethiopia without cheating


[31-Mar-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>His granddaughter still is proud of him


[31-Mar-19 10:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"political artist"


[31-Mar-19 10:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to detract from what he's done but what genius came up with that title


[31-Mar-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he is one


[31-Mar-19 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It just sounds so *pretentious* when you consider what he did, y'know? Especially with all the memelords on the right


[31-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not committing genocide, I'm just painting the countryside red.


[31-Mar-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not forced labor, it's just reimagined productivity.


[31-Mar-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The first thing you have to talk about with Mussolini before anything else is his incompetence IMO


[31-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really think of him as a little kid and his two dads Hitler and Hirohito kept telling him to go to his room


[31-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
A political artist who couldn't hold a brush and preferred to paint with razorblades on the canvas etc.


[31-Mar-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Benito! Have you been invading Greece again?"


[31-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"N-no Dad"


[31-Mar-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Go to your room while Hirohito and I work"


[31-Mar-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
“Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable." - Cesar A. Cruz


[31-Mar-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Art should disturb everyone.


[31-Mar-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
hard to disturb the disturbed


[31-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
why was clara killed though?


[31-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
just because she was there?


[31-Mar-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
His mistress?


[31-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, apparently the guy who shot them both was repulsive, even to his communist comrades


[31-Mar-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
impulsive and repulsive


[31-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-execution-of-Clara-Petacci-viewed-by-Italians

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How is the execution of Clara Petacci viewed by Italians? - Quora
When he witnessed the public display of Mussolini's and Ms Petacci's cadavers in Milan, Ferruccio Parri coined the expression "a scene worth of a Mexican butcher shop". By today’s standard the sentence sounds a little politically incorrect, but it...


[31-Mar-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
>The thug who pulled the trigger was one Walter Audisio, whose nom de guerre was “Colonel Valerio” (colonel being a self-appointed rank, not one earned fighting) who was deemed by his own comrades to be an impudent, inflexible and rash man. Needless to say also he was a mid-ranking member of the Communist Party. after the war he went on to become a member of Parliament and later a Senator.


[31-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the only thing she was ever guilty of was being mussolini's mistress


[31-Mar-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
which could also likely be against her will


[31-Mar-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
or at least coerced


[31-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think a similar thing happened with Romania when the communists got ousted


[31-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They had a short sham trial then shot up the guy and his wife


[31-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea basically is that women are property


[31-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and should be burned with their masters.


[31-Mar-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that even if they aren't, they're responsible as intentionally helping the fascist guy be fascist etc.


[31-Mar-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't the wife of Ceauseau also herself a part of the cult of personality


[31-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[31-Mar-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, we're getting closer to finding who Stonetoss is


[31-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/31/mick-mulvaney-guarantees-no-one-lose-coverage-without-obamacare/3325222002/

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White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney guarantees no one will lo...
Mick Mulvaney declared that "debate about pre-existing conditions is over" and promised no one would lose coverage if Obamacare is struck down.
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[31-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
How about


[31-Mar-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
for every person that loses coverage because of losing Obamacare


[31-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We charge him $1000


[31-Mar-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
When he owes multiple times his net worth, he might be willing to at least play nice instead of being a pawn of evil.


[01-Apr-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck everything about this


[01-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This just reminds me of the argument that the only reason other countries have socialized medicine is because the US covers their defense


[01-Apr-19 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet we're trying to pull out of NATO :thonk:


[01-Apr-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trump administration is trying to build a corporate police state with locked borders and no immigrants


[01-Apr-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seclude us from our allies, build ties with russia and north korea, and helm the arc of a new dictatorshit


[01-Apr-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the corporations themselves though would not be at all happy with any of this


[01-Apr-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would cost the country trillions in debt and economical progress


[01-Apr-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because trump and his helm of lobbyist minions dont actually know what they;re doing anymore


[01-Apr-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're just kind of shifting money towards their most oppressive programs while taking money away from benefits in hopes it will make thme rich and powerful in the long run


[01-Apr-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
It's the GOP strategy


[01-Apr-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I understand that their goals are to destroy everything


[01-Apr-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
But I don't get what the gain is from that


[01-Apr-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Is it just the personal satisfaction of a bunch of old fart millionaires


[01-Apr-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont really have an end goal in mind


[01-Apr-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their idea is money and power and as long as thye have that they win forever


[01-Apr-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who cares if it comes at the cost of everything this country was founded on, they;d shoot the founding fathers in the face and pee on their bodies if it meant giant checks for their political pockets


[01-Apr-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
That's all?


[01-Apr-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
That's pretty pathetic


[01-Apr-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[01-Apr-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
step on their opponents keep all the power


[01-Apr-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are basically a more honest version of stalin


[01-Apr-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take everything, kill any obstacles in your way. but without the mask of communism holding anything back


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honest is a subjective term here what I mean by that is they don;t even pretend to be for the people any more


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's not a new concept


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's happened many times throughout human history


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their goals aren't to destroy everything


[01-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their goals are to destroy any gov't that could make people equal


[01-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that jesus's whole story arc was about greedy rich people


[01-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
ruining everything for the common person


[01-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that people can liv or die based on their own merit [in the horrible systems that are super discriminatory and hav nothing to do with your actual abilities or potential]


[01-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a world where one young man earned a billion dollars by 15 and YOU JUST NEED TO WORK HARDER YOU STARVING WHEELCHAIRED BITCH


[01-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Malthusian Economics


[01-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which were based around a simple principle: The Irish should starve to death because they're Irish.


[01-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all along the way


[01-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will do anything to keep power


[01-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
anything except protect people from bad things


[01-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a twisted, inverted moral philosophy


[01-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
one where if your neighbor is dying, the only immoral thing to do is save them.


[01-Apr-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if your neighbor is dying the moral thing to do is break their legs, demand they pay up, and then break their arms so they can't dial the police


[01-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you must become the sheriff


[01-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you break their legs when they try to steal medicine to treat themselves with


[01-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that they can't do it again


[01-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you ask them why they can't just find work like everyone else.


[01-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Republicans don't break legs


[01-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They prefer to just fine you until you're out of money


[01-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and add red tape that makes you unable to deal with things


[01-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as they claim to be the party of deregulation


[01-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're only opposed to regulations on businesses that prevent them from hurting people, basically.


[01-Apr-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl39KHS07Xc I don;t know if this has been posted here before but i found it neat

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[01-Apr-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
is this a joke https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/national-republican-congressional-committee-labels-beto-orourke-a-furry

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National Republican Congressional Committee labels Beto O'Rourke a...
The campaign arm of congressional Republicans Thursday labeled presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke a "furry."
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[01-Apr-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i honestly cant tell anymore


[01-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
OwO


[01-Apr-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Beto OwO'Rourke


[01-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not a joke


[01-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was in some band that wore light sheep costumes while playing


[01-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they are now calling him a furry


[01-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to scare old people into being Republicans


[01-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those were not fursuits.


[01-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got no chance anyway


[01-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's too boring to lose.


[01-Apr-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuMNjlOiSI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuMNjlOiSI
American Amnesia
Our history may as well be recorded on a mini Etch a Sketch
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[01-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans _now_ are trying to use sexual assault as a disqualifying thing for a president?


[01-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[01-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You still don't get it, Its


[01-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, sexual assault doesn't matter.


[01-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it matters to other people.


[01-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
People they might be able to influence.


[01-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't matter to their base.


[01-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still doesn't. A _lot_ of Americans inherently distrust any sexual assault allegation


[01-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter if it matters to their base, that's the thing.


[01-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism relies so much on order, on being in line, that even its very principles will be disobeyed in the name of obeying.


[01-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what makes it so dangerous.


[01-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
They distrust it unless it's someone they hate


[01-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Beto's only claim to fame is managing to get elected to office while having two DWI


[01-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's DUI


[01-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Texas uses the less common one


[01-Apr-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/31/judge-sharon-gleason-tosses-trump-executive-order-/

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Judge Sharon Gleason tosses Trump executive order, restores Obama dril
President Donald Trump exceeded his authority when he reversed bans on offshore drilling in vast parts of the Arctic Ocean and dozens of canyons in the Atlantic Ocean, a U.S. judge said in a ruling th
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[01-Apr-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
President Donald Trump exceeded his authority when he reversed bans on offshore drilling in vast parts of the Arctic Ocean and dozens of canyons in the Atlantic Ocean, a U.S. judge said in a ruling that restored the Obama-era restrictions.

U.S. District Court Judge Sharon Gleason in a decision late Friday threw out Trump’s executive order that overturned the bans that comprised a key part of Obama’s environmental legacy.

Presidents have the power under a federal law to remove certain lands from development but cannot revoke those removals, Gleason said.

“The wording of President Obama’s 2015 and 2016 withdrawals indicates that he intended them to extend indefinitely, and therefore be revocable only by an act of Congress,” said Gleason, who was nominated to the bench by Obama.


[01-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Make sure we remind the reader that Gleason was nominated by Obama, so that Trumpers will have a new man to oust"


[01-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah


[01-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Washington Times


[01-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I intentionally don't read their articles cause they literally are White House propaganda


[01-Apr-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give me a moment to find a better source then


[01-Apr-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/judge-restores-obama-era-drilling-ban-in-arctic

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Judge restores Obama-era drilling ban in Arctic
President Donald Trump exceeded his authority when he reversed bans on offshore drilling in vast parts of the Arctic Ocean and dozens of canyons in the Atlantic Ocean, a U.S. judge said in a ruling that restored the Obama-era restrictions.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2019/03/RTX1D15G-1024x683.jpg


[01-Apr-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyway, they both say the same thing with minor incidents of typoes in the washington times


[01-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interesting. Maybe they pulled from a common source.


[01-Apr-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some sources are citing APnews


[01-Apr-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i havent found an AP article


[01-Apr-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article228631659.html

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AP News in Brief at 11:04 p.m. EDT
AP News in Brief at 11:04 p.m. EDT.
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[01-Apr-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it's in there as a breif instead of a full article


[01-Apr-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that seems to be as close as i;m gettign to the AP news itself


[01-Apr-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9d8054fc54234fafb58548802cc2468c

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Schumer wants Boeing off FAA committee amid investigations
U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer wants Boeing to be removed from a Federal Aviation Administration rulemaking committee as investigations deepen into both the company and regulator's role in two...
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[01-Apr-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1759ac2858ee4aafb041f91cbd6d86e9

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Official: Trump team overruled 25 security clearance denials
WASHINGTON (AP) — A career official in the White House security office says dozens of people in President Donald Trump's administration were granted security clearances despite "disqualifying...
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[01-Apr-19 10:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Watch live: The We the People Membership Summit https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-the-we-the-people-summit-1466107971722

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Watch live: The We the People Membership Summit
Live from the Warner Theater in Washington D.C., Democratic 2020 presidential candidates answer questions from voters and share their views on America.
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[01-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
ew, this lady talking wants court stacking and term limits on justices


[01-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, would a single, 10-12 year term limit be ok for the supreme court?


[01-Apr-19 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
bernie shutting down the court stacking


[01-Apr-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
he gave some sort of idea of rotating judges between the court of appeals and supreme court


[01-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol no


[01-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point of lifetime appointments is so that judges aren't corrupted with reelection requirements


[01-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, no re-elections


[01-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
one term


[01-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
12 years


[01-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you could just reappoint them.


[01-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
or not, that's the point of a term limit lol


[01-Apr-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
I think the cycling idea is better though


[01-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
but the point of the single term would be that if you get appointed, you're there for 12 years and you're out, can't be reappointed


[01-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
I think having an x year cycle chosen at random between the 9 justices and the court of appeals would be a better idea though


[01-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
it can't be appointed because that would bring politics into the court


[01-Apr-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think this ties into "how many lobbying opportunities does this open up for the bench"


[01-Apr-19 11:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And cycling between SCOTUS and court of appeals would, more or less, leave the entire supreme court susceptible to tactics that'd work on appellate judges due to it not being the highest court in the land


[01-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
a single term with no reappointments wouldn't really open up bribery any more than it's already opened


[01-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
the simplest way to fix the problem would be to make bribery illegal


[01-Apr-19 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it would increase the frequency with which appointments happen, is the problem, y'see?


[01-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
that still wouldn't increase bribery rates beyond what's already happening though


[01-Apr-19 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe Bluth Glader Rinsburg won't take money but Smeve Dorvans who's set to take her place might be more willing, so go for the long game


[01-Apr-19 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the main argument against term limits


[01-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
maybe lower chances of getting someone who's willing to accept bribes


[01-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
but it should be illegal to begin with


[01-Apr-19 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's awfully hard to enforce


[01-Apr-19 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
An easier metric to detect would be partisanship in their past


[01-Apr-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
as in, make it illegal to have private, closed-door meetings with known agents of private entities


[01-Apr-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
tbh that should be a staple of politics lol


[01-Apr-19 11:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is that *really* where the current problem's coming from, though


[01-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
it's hard to accept bribes when everything is publicly documented lol


[01-Apr-19 11:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Personally I feel like Trump's nominees and appointments already lack what I would consider to be necessary qualifications and yet they were appointed


[01-Apr-19 11:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thanks to the removal of supermajority


[01-Apr-19 11:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If an appointment can't happen without the vote falling along partisan lines, then there's every reason to believe that partisan politics are the driving factor behind a nomination, and that's not okay with me


[01-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that mcconnell blocked a vote on trump's nomination of a new justice for over a year so trump could have it


[01-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
he considers it his greatest achievement


[01-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't a new concept


[01-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
well, it's newish


[01-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

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The nuclear option  is a parliamentary procedure that allows the United States Senate to override the 60-vote rule to close debate, by a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than the two-thirds supermajority normally required to amend the rules. The option is invoked when the ...


[01-Apr-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
>In November 2013, Senate Democrats led by Harry Reid used the nuclear option to eliminate the 60-vote rule on executive branch nominations and federal judicial appointments, but not for the Supreme Court.
>In April 2017, Senate Republicans led by Mitch McConnell extended the nuclear option to Supreme Court nominations in order to end debate on the nomination of Neil Gorsuch.


[01-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the republicans were trying to shut down all nominations to the executive branch, so the democrats worked around them, and then the republicans took off with the idea and increased its power


[01-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
within the next 2 decades, everything that once required more than a simple majority to pass will only require a simple majority


[01-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
republicans in the US are 90% of the time the driving force behind partisan politics


[01-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
the democrats are on the defensive most of the time


[01-Apr-19 11:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about


[02-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Democrats take bakk the Senate


[02-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They become unchallengible by Republicans


[02-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And could just go Medicare for all and put in a justice who thinks we should giv bakk land to natives and destroy gun rights


[02-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
De-Bork themselves first


[02-Apr-19 01:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://news.sky.com/story/protesters-strip-naked-in-commons-brexit-debate-11681629

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Protesters strip off in House of Commons during Brexit debate
Police arrest 12 people for "outraging public decency" after several semi-naked activists glued themselves to the public gallery.
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[02-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47781009

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47781009
MPs fail to back Brexit proposals again
For a second time, none of MPs' proposed Brexit options wins clear backing in Commons vote
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07573fs.jpg


[02-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it real simple: Brexit, Good Friday, UK sovereignty. **Choose any two.**


[02-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're going from triumvirate leader of the EU to vassal state, willingly


[02-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's amazing


[02-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia at work


[02-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need a GDP bigger than Canada's to affect the world.


[02-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just need to be paying attention when one of the actual big boys is weak.


[02-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Russia wouldn't have had to do much here


[02-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not, but they did go out and influence things for the Brexit side.


[02-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The sense of national pride and exceptionalism in England is greater than the US


[02-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remove Russia, and it might've been a 50/50 dead even split.


[02-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would've given parliament the leeway to drag things out.


[02-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
As-is, with the 52-48 that happened, lol rekt


[02-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They went from global empire to "winning" two world wars to being lead in the EU without ever realizing the world moved on from them mattering


[02-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Ability to negotiate favourable trade deals"


[02-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol no m8, you're gonna get railed


[02-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you get a good deal is by being big. Like, 500 million people big. Gee, I wonder why the EU exists.


[02-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There isn't anyone lining up to buy anything the UK produces outside of meme items


[02-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously it's to weaken negotiating power with HOLLAND about the all-important WOODEN SHOE trade deals.


[02-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like the entire point is you can present a unified front to China/the US/Africa


[02-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EU will be hurt but will quickly start producing everything they got from the UK internally


[02-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like sheep can only be raised in Wales or there's a secret titanium mine in Nottingham


[02-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to be hilarious when people are talking about "Brexit Tax" as in the premium UK people spend on goods compared to the EU


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK's done protectionism before


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It starved Ireland literally a third to death.


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But those were IRISH people


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't count.


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only England does.


[02-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the entire fukking problem with the UK


[02-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
even in the actual Brexit vote, England just LOVED Brexit while the rest of the UK hated it


[02-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it had more people and the votes were all coalesced so it won


[02-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really interesting cause the history of the UK is basically a how-to guide on using democracy to walk a fine line between doing what needs to be done and just fukking over people for no reason.


[02-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
With racism used to make sure that the fukking over people always has strong representation when things come to a vote.


[02-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And classism.


[02-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, when the potato famine was happening


[02-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
not only did the UK prevent cheap US food from coming in


[02-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It actually imported food from Ireland to England


[02-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, by preventing cheap US imports, it kept prices high, so only the English could afford the bread etc.


[02-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Irish people made bread, it was too expensive for any of their neighbors to buy.


[02-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stores would just sit full of bread while people starved on the streets.


[02-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Honahue#0656
they were purposely trying to end the old Irish way of life and turn them into proper protestants


[02-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if anyone got the bright idea to throw a brikk into the window, Englishmen with rifles would shoot them in a heartbeat.


[02-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, Malthusian economics at work.


[02-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Malthusian economics are like, worse than Reagonomics


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
the Irish did kill a good number of landlords though, good for them


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of "the rich will eventually get the poor money", it's "the poor will eventually starve to death and it's their own fault"


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
_glances over at US policy on homelessness._


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Macarou#9574
I was unaware that there was an entire system of economics based upon Robert' Malthus's theory of population. Intriguing


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and it killed over a million people, Domino.


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over a million people *in the 1840s*


[02-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
well it turned out to be wrong cause we learned how to fix nitrogen


[02-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That and birth control etc.


[02-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Macarou#9574
1840's Ireland, and then another million left to other places, almost as though the end goal was the depopulation of Ireland, completely.


[02-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes


[02-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Honahue#0656
birth control ain't done shit the green revolution had way more impact


[02-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Malthus was definitely thinking of Ireland when he put forward his ideas.


[02-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Macarou#9574
I've not been able to find his work in my city library, I hope to find it soon, to see what sorts of ideas Malthus had


[02-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Honahue#0656
he might end up being right though, as global temps rise not only with arable land move or disappear but rising temps lower yeilds


[02-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core idea is like, it's best to make the poor miserable and starving so they work hard, as poverty is caused by being lazy shits


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Based on this, the British made workhouses in Ireland that were deliberately as close to starving and torturing people as it could get


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 meals a day in exchange for menial labor


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was at the same time many prisons had this kind of bullshit


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, at one point, prisoners were put on treadmills to generate power


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Honahue#0656
before the famine despite the Irish being dirt poor they were swole af cause potatoes are a really great staple crop


[02-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't anywhere near profitable


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the point was never to make money


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was to deal with the destitute by hurting them


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
believing what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not according to Malthus, Honahue


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There are people in NI that call that shit the golden days today.


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
according to Malthus, idleness = laziness = bad moral character


[02-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and potatos were less labor intensive


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
no this was an actual thing the Irish were swole af cause of three meals a day of potatoes


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
ergo, potatos make you a shitty person who deserves to die


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But according to Malthus


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
those swole people should've died.


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
For being evil, lazy shits.


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
less laobr and also more nutrient dense


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
and vit C


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Malthus basically says that efficiency of production is bad


[02-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
grains don't have vit C potatoes do


[02-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Macarou#9574
The more I learn of 19th century England, the more and more their belief in their civility sounds nonsensical, and insane.


[02-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Honahue#0656
they got infected with Calvinism


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
the worst form of Protestants


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
America too


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Protestantism decided that actually, poor people were demons on earth and such


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
perhaps even worse


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the best way to deal with them was hard labor and solitary confinement


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
These ideas still persist in the prison system especially.


[02-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean OG they just killed them


[02-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Honahue#0656
prisons were progressive


[02-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the thinking behind a debtor's prison


[02-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Honahue#0656
debtor's prison is probably the oldest form


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It also makes zero sense for anyone.


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
though in some cases it was straight slavery


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean the nicer form of slavery where you could be freed


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think this ultimately stems from the upper classes believing they knew best on religion


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and writing on such things


[02-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of accepting Jesus' teachings etc.


[02-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They put in their own hatred for the poor and said THIS is the way to be Christian.


[02-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't really fathom how bad things got for people hating the religious leaders


[02-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Until I read the Marquis de Sade


[02-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the scenarios he was going to write in detail about


[02-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he was an edgelord but still


[02-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude the guy nearly went to jail cause he fed a girl something to make her gassy


[02-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it was Spanish Fly that almost killed her


[02-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but it was a relatively normal amount, and the point was it makes people gassy


[02-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They saw that as morally aberrant to the point it deserved prison time.


[02-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Honahue#0656
well the Irish were/are largely Catholic and despite the bad aspects of the clergy the laypeople are expected to do charity and works to earn forgiveness, Protestants did away with that and taught the prosperity gospels ie if you're doing good on Earth it's cause God approves of what you're doing


[02-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then he was a noble


[02-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they did like nothing


[02-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a society where you could be pretty much executed for saying the wrong thing or peeing in the wrong place, but also a rich person could literally kill people in the streets and get away with it.


[02-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you disagreed, the church would be paid money to make sure you never spoke again.


[02-Apr-19 02:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
England tried to stop people from going to Europe in the Vic era because Europe was full of catholics and tried to call citizens back to England and beware those that came back late especially from Italy because they may be converted to catholic beliefs.


[02-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially this is why you need to separate church and state


[02-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause when you tie them together, the church becomes a way to manipulate things for nationalist ends in a way that messes with people's very lives


[02-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The state will always seek to manipulate things to gain nationalism out of selfishness.


[02-Apr-19 02:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how do you explain the difference between patriotism and nationalism to someone who conflates the two


[02-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patriotism = "my country matters"
Nationalism = "other countries don't really matter"


[02-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patriotism is making sure your legal institutions work because you don't want things to be bad, because your country matters


[02-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are there so few nationalists that allow other people in other countries to be nationalists


[02-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism is making sure that other country's legal institution doesn't work because you want things to be bad for them, because their country shouldn't matter.


[02-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Nationalist's greatest enemy is Patriotism for a different country.


[02-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[02-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patriotism is like thinking you are a good person and should improve yourself. Nationalism is like thinking you are a better person than everyone else and should keep it that way.


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But applied to the scale of a country instead of an individual.


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consequentially, Nationalism may seek to hurt others to retain the differential position it perceives.


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, nationalism likes to pretend it's patriotism, see MAGA


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is there any ideology that is "I'm great, you're great too for different reasons, let's celebrate how great we both are (but separately)?"


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not AFAIK


[02-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like say


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately anyone who says "people should separate into tribes" is saying it for the goal of "so I can justify hurting a different tribe"


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The closest thing I can think of is egalitarianism but that rarely applies to nation states


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An American who is proud of America talking to a Frenchman proud of France and saying he likes French culture and wants to enjoy it and vice versa


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(do note that in this hypothetical the sides are still vehemently opposed to mixing of cultures)


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, ingroup love vs. outgroup hate


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
how do you think they map?


[02-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, on a graph


[02-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Straight line, positive correlation


[02-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scatter


[02-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
or negative correlation?


[02-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's straight line, positive correlation.


[02-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Loving those in your ingroup comes with hating those in your outgroup.


[02-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess I'm just trying to understand why people give a shit about the "purity" of other countries that they aren't part of


[02-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when you're very patriotic


[02-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
that comes with wanting every other country to rot, nationalism.


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't, Its


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not directly.


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they want Mexicans to stay in Mexico is they want them to not be in the US


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see spreading out from Mexico as increasing Mexico's reach, culturally, with people.


[02-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
To a Nationalist, the ideal is their own country's people can emigrate anywhere


[02-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but all other countries cannot


[02-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why MAGA types like it when Americans can freely travel to Europe


[02-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not when Europeans can freely travel to America.


[02-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, immigration is like giving someone a piss enema


[02-Apr-19 02:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK calls it colonising.


[02-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want to be on the giving end, not the receiving end.


[02-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't want to be someone else's bitch.


[02-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does that answer your question, @Itsthinking?


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess, but this is so far against what I believe that I have trouble fathoming it.


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] snail pie#2297
Ultranationalism*


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would get it if it were consistent.


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is consistent...per country


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's subjective.


[02-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like "I want strong borders for my nation, and wouldn't mind any other nation having strong borders either"


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if _I_ personally believed in the wall/keeping refugees out


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's "I want strong borders so my nation can choose who comes in, and I want other nations to only have strong borders so they can't."


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would not expect any other nation to let me in easily.


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should I?


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
To a Natianolist


[02-Apr-19 02:42 AM] snail pie#2297
Ultranationalist*


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is good for a US citizen and what is good for a Mexican citizen is different.


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no objective good.


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] snail pie#2297
Most people in current day politics are nationalists


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire belief system is that things are subjective by country.


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So what are human rights


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, then do they think Saudi Arabia is fine doing what they do?


[02-Apr-19 02:43 AM] snail pie#2297
Anti-nationalism is considered just as fringe as ultra-nationalism


[02-Apr-19 02:44 AM] snail pie#2297
We just call ultranationalism nationalism and call nationalism the status quo position.


[02-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human Rights are either things that you allow everyone to hav as a baseline just as apractical matter so that there aren't heavy disputes over what everyone does, or an evil that violates your sovereignty and makes you obligated to help other countries.


[02-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which one depends on the brand of nationalist.


[02-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The latter brand think Saudi Arabia is fine.


[02-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former think that we should stop Saudi Arabia solely as a procedural thing to prevent precedent from hurting us in the future.


[02-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saudi Arabia pulls the Japan card all the time though


[02-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither believe that Yemenis shouldn't be killed.


[02-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
when it costs pennies to ship stuff made in another country for a tenth of the cost that it would take when manufacturing locally, even the dumbest economist would recommend the former


[02-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, no objective good, that's the whole point.


[02-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wah wah, we are different from the West so we have to keep doing this shitty thing and if you don't let us do it you're intolerant"


[02-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
that's what the right accuses the left of doing constantly


[02-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Effectively it's like a US nationalist and a Saudi nationalist are different ideological systems with the same structure.


[02-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
letting "the muslims walk all over muh murrican culture"


[02-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is why, Its, Conservatives often let Saudi Arabia even kill Christians for being Christian


[02-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
because to say otherwise would mean that Human Rights exist


[02-Apr-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the right have basically become SJWs but isntead of beign offended for everyone else they;re offended only for themselves


[02-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would then impose a burden on the US


[02-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then sometimes they realize letting a bunch of white or Christian or whatever people be killed effectively means their own country's brethren could be killed


[02-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so then they sporadically speak out.


[02-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as it's brown Muslims dying and setting no precedent they giv 0 shits about Human Rights


[02-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as far as letting muslims walk over American culture


[02-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
again, it's about the idea that American culture should exported


[02-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and no culture should be imported


[02-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
to keep America on top


[02-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want America to be the master control.


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want America to reach its tentacles in every hole and giv people the good American word, whatever it may be at the moment


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want a single filthy Muslim telling America what it should think, ever.


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make more sense, @Itsthinking?


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there's a town called "dearborn" in michigan which has the largest muslim population in the US, and there's been a lot of fake news tabloid scaremongering about it being under sharia because there's a bunch of muslim-owned storefronts


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[02-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
the logic being basically that if someone's muslim, they shouldn't be able to own businesses in the US


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I've seen people who want it not to be classified as a religion anymore


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
which is completely hypocritical and goes against all their free market ideals


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Officiality is a big deal in psychological effects.


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Dearborn suffered a lot post 9/11


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
When something is made official by the gov't


[02-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
people change how they think about it to match slightly


[02-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will see something has been made law and suddenly stop opposing it


[02-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that it's been removed as law and say they're okay with it...even tho they previously weren't


[02-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's to prevent being executed every time the chief of the tribe changes.


[02-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consequentlally, if you want to change how people think, the first and most obvious way is the law.


[02-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many people in fact derive their morality entirely from the law.


[02-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Nationalists do this a *lot*.


[02-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho they trikk themselves about what is and isn't legal


[02-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will intentionally deny any argument that asylum-seeking is legal


[02-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead focusing on technicalities, that the law may hav been broken etc.


[02-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and will never accept the necessity defense.


[02-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
(necessity defense says you can break whatever laws you want if it's to prevent imminent threat of harm and you've exhausted other reasonable options)


[02-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
good that they put reasonable in there


[02-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta, that's a paraphrasing, it's about whether the option could realistically be done etc.


[02-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
ah, reasonable is an actual legal term with a long history of precedent


[02-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-execution/death-row-inmates-not-guaranteed-painless-execution-u-s-supreme-court-says-idUSKCN1RD2J5

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[02-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“The Eighth Amendment does not guarantee a prisoner a painless death - something that, of course, isn’t guaranteed to many people, including most victims of capital crimes.”


[02-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But...that's _exactly_ what it's supposed to guarantee, a painful death carried out by the state _is_ torture


[02-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, technically, it isn't meant to guarantee completely painless.


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the idea is it's supposed to be limited in pain.


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is all moot IMO


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, decapitation is over pretty fast, firing squad is done for practical reasons, hanging can happen fast with some skill.


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The death penalty is by its very nature cruel and unusual punishment


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem here is this is a special case where a guy is likely to experence much more pain than normal.


[02-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is _the state murdering someone_ not cruel and unusual


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's cruel, but previously wasn't unusual.


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now it is.


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The state should not be able to take your life


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, basically Gorsuch's reasoning latches onto the wrong thing


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying that WELL PAIN CAN HAPPEN...but the argument is to do a DIFFERENT METHOD that would giv LESS PAIN


[02-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, as usual, conservative justice emphasizes the victims of the crimes


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit if you want to give victims justice


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
using whataboutism to say the state can't be held accountable for being as bad as the criminal it's dealing with.


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give them a gun and put the murderer in front of them


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go full execution


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, recreat the crime in its entirety.


[02-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it's ultimately about vindication of the victim's family, right?


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What better vindication could there be?


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Build a special house in the desert and set loose state agents with a video feed to the victim's family.


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I suspect a lot of people wouldn't actually go through with it


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On another note


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a case where they denied a Muslim man his imam before he was being executed


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But not a Buddhist man his practitioner


[02-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was down to filing too late I guess


[02-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh the next Democratic president should really make a big show about Gorsuch and the injustice of Obama's Borked pick


[02-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like start a hashtag campaign and shit


[02-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wouldn't do anything tho.


[02-Apr-19 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think that awareness is really the issue


[02-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know when Ginsburg dies next year or Thomas resigns that Yertle will push through another FedSoc pick


[02-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie kinda is with the term limits idea


[02-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I almost think that it shouldn't be picked by the president


[02-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have the House pick and Senate confirm


[02-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just ugh "Fellow conservative Justice Samuel Alito said in 2015 that the legal challenge to Oklahoma’s method of execution case was part of a “guerilla war” against the death penalty."


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, this shouldn't affect your damn ruling


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean if they're going to be politisied at least make it only last about a decade instead of many decades


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The matter is what the law requires


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alito is a piece of work


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could be worse


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
not stikking it to the libs for trying to get something reinterpreted.


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Harriet Miers had a penis she'd be on the court now


[02-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and that would be fucking horrendous holy shit


[02-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor took issue with Gorsuch, writing in a dissenting opinion that questions about legal tactics that lead to delays are “wholly irrelevant” to the case before the court.'


[02-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Technically


[02-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If conservative justices really are super textual


[02-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sotomayor isn't great, but she's one of the best pikks in modern history.


[02-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't they not think that the Supreme Court has the power to decide what the law is at all?


[02-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(This is what our acting AG actually believed)


[02-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[02-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
textualism isn't a belief


[02-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's something you tell liberals so they can't call you out.


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half of what Republicans say is a facade.


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of those theories are just basically BS anyway to get what you want


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Scalia was "Texualist/originalist, but not if there's a minority group I don't want to get something"


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch could rule in favor of quartering National Guard troops for purposes of immigration law


[02-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd find an excuse


[02-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd also rule against people assembling in a crowd and getting some "peacekeeping" forces to shoot them


[02-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One thing you get reading Scalia opinions, especially his dissents


[02-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he'd definitely rule against people not paying taxes because they aren't being represented.


[02-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
okay so like apparently Ginsburg found him personally an enjoyable person and they got along


[02-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Textualism's main intention


[02-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But in a lot of his dissents he is borderline attacking the majority for being the majority


[02-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like calm down dude you're supposed to be attacking their ruling not them


[02-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to say that the 14th amendment either 1) Was added on later and so is invalid or 2) Doesn't actually mean blakk codes or Jim Crow were unconstitutional, since for a while judges didn't interpret it correctly after Reconstruction but before the late 50s


[02-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the idea is to repeal the 14th amendment by making it meaningless at the level of the Judiciary.


[02-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that until the Civil Rights Era basically all of the professional historians were from the South


[02-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that Republicans aren't forced to giv blakks and gays rights.


[02-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are Log Cabin Republicans dead


[02-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[02-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the deal is that Republicans now argue that since gay rights are *de facto* mostly in place


[02-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that they should be *de jure* removed


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, okay you're now able to actually be elected to public office and not casually murdered and tied to a fence


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore everything is solved, you hav no reason to keep bringing cases before the courts


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg somehow has raised 7 million so far


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren 12


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you hav no reason to get specific protection.


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar on racism


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not bad for a no name with an unpronounceable name


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like,  oh you've gotten a brown person as president once


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore we can remove anti-racism rules


[02-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His campaign symbol should be a rooster, his name means "Lord of the Poultry" ffs


[02-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican's whole ideal is that now that Liberals got what they wanted, official protections against discrimination, they should rip the bandage off while the wound is still healing


[02-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that it can get reinfected.


[02-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, the classic "This isn't the 1960s, there's no battles to fight, go home" opinion


[02-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because they're sore about losing


[02-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to convince you that you've won so that they can then undo what you won as you bakk off


[02-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Log Cabin Republicans are super dead at this point


[02-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I assume that they're just quiet


[02-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
either quietly voting R or going over to D


[02-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, being in the closet is the Republican way.


[02-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Milo certainly didn't help


[02-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lmao


[02-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get a sukky from a retarded teen and then sweep it under the rug etc.


[02-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems Larry Craig dropped off the face of the Earth


[02-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh the jokes etc made back then were kinda bad in hindsight


[02-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like all the Lewinsky stuff


[02-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Leno, whose bits for years revolved around Lewinsky, now says late night comedy is "too political")


[02-Apr-19 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
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[02-Apr-19 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
Just check the replies


[02-Apr-19 04:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
lmao he took 10 minutes to write up part 2 to this tweet


[02-Apr-19 04:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
and the presumed part 3 isn't even up yet, more than another 10 minutes later


[02-Apr-19 04:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
takes like 30 seconds to write like that


[02-Apr-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he never just stops talking does he?


[02-Apr-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes the beloved private health insurance that fucks us over with steam rollers at every fucking goddamned turn


[02-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
oh look, it's the channel of a made up reality that doesnt affect me


[02-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
hello, time wasters~


[02-Apr-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hello person from another universe


[02-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you here to make a lovely argument about why putting profit over people's lives is a good thing? Or just to insult everyone?


[02-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if it's the latter, I will kikk you.


[02-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
is april 1st


[02-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
sorry, sorry


[02-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[02-Apr-19 04:43 AM] «♡TechNick♡»#4101
I am April 1st


[02-Apr-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am the lurge


[02-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
I am


[02-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
God


[02-Apr-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I feel hashtag blessed to be in this good mikeyist server


[02-Apr-19 04:45 AM] «♡TechNick♡»#4101
Wrong chatsorry


[02-Apr-19 04:45 AM] «♡TechNick♡»#4101
Modsnokillpls


[02-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's too late


[02-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Filly Funtasia death squads are on their way


[02-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch ruled it's not cruel and unusual to hunt people down with sapient ponies as televised bloodsport.


[02-Apr-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Gorsuch also ruled that the bolgy wolgy rap is our new national anthem


[02-Apr-19 05:19 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
...


[02-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
hey, thats not politics! thats something that actually affects our lives! a lot!!


[02-Apr-19 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
owo


[02-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you seen Stalin's bulgy wolgy?


[02-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's full of proletariat uwus


[02-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Arvid#8335
Stalin dindu nuffin


[02-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Echo Bounce#9624
i thought it was full of Viagra


[02-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Honahue#0656
I'll make Stalin look like a fucking anarchist


[02-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Siberia's a fun place with snowballs owo


[02-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Arvid#8335
Stalin defeated Hitler and helped Russia develop, good guy in my book


[02-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But only Hitler-chan popped a cap in Hitler-chan!


[02-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Hitler-chan is senpai uwu


[02-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/562448979137396766/w9ap9rgqcnp21.png

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[02-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole meme is built on casual racism.


[02-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[02-Apr-19 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The T Series thing


[02-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because how dare the second largest country in the world with the largest music industry have more subs than a guy who was hated up until he said rote right wing stuff a few years ago


[02-Apr-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's just doing what washed up Hollywood actors like James Woods or Tim Allen do to be edgy except in Hollywood it just makes them more irrelevant


[02-Apr-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PDP was hated until he said rote far right shit


[02-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Echo#4759
Hahaha, are you seriously turning into one of those?


[02-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Arvid#8335
I subbed to T-Series biatch.


[02-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Echo#4759
God, what a sorry sight


[02-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Arvid#8335
Sorry what?


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah a sorry sight


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
hated unless you were a kid lol


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That is why PDP unfollowed a bunch of right wing  pundits after Christchurch


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because of his concern over PR


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Arvid#8335
I remember back in 2012 when most people hated PewDiePie except 11 year olds.


[02-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Mikey#7286
some people only hated him because they were jealous of him tbh


[02-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Mikey#7286
he made a shitton off YT


[02-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Mikey#7286
others hated him because he's loud and annoying


[02-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
People hated him because he was popular and also loud and obnoxious.


[02-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That never changed.


[02-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It still hasn't changed.


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel xD scream "rape" at random jump scares


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then he said the n word live on stream and YouTube nearly dropped him


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so the alt right rose up


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still hate him.


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he's actually racist, either.


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
I can gladly say that I've never watched a single video of his


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't mind loud and obnoxious YTers tbh, hell, I like Markiplier


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bunch of stupid fukking bullshit from every side, Its.


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well neither is Allen or Woods


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Arvid#8335
I kind of lost respect for PewDiePie when he cozied up with the right wing weirdos of YouTube


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those two are irrelevant


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got mad because he said a bad word in a fit of rage.


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Markiplier's basically a more wholesome version of PDP


[02-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And are on the right to be edgy


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everyone decided it's a hill they want to die in.


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
PDP isn't some alt right anything


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Name something James Woods has been in in the past 15 years


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's just an idiot


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And trying to drop him over it just makes him a martyr


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you lose the culture war to the alt right is by trying to drop PDP


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally all you have to do to distract these people


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you get why the NZ shooter said to subscribe to him?


[02-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it is why Yang is a meme mind you


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Echo#4759
Someone with millions of fans makes a great hill to die on


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about distracting them.


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is talk about circumcision


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want time in your head, Its


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to hate them


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It details any conversation


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every time


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is intrinsic to their goals


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Echo#4759
They're already living in his head rent free, without even trying


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't hate them, they aren't doing their strategy right.


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, just mention circumcision no matter the argument


[02-Apr-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to hate them so they can play the victim card.


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they want you to hate PDP because he said the N word


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Arvid#8335
"I lost all my friends because I voted Trump feel sorry for me pls"


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Mikey#7286
also i'm pretty sure PDP only said that kinda shit because he wanted to shock people


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not because he's loud and obnoxious and popular


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess I could say I gave you guys a good


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_tip_


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but they keep murdering people so they kinda earned it and it feels deserved


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's irrelevant.


[02-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Mikey#7286
or is just really really stupid


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of how the alt right operates


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Echo#4759
Lmao. It's a movement of peace, don't be racist


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to make themselves look like victims


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
It's not though


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
while doing things to be hated


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Why do you think after Charlottesville unite the right hasn't happened


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to make others that aren't them swept up in purging them.


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that they can play the victim card better.


[02-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're best completely forgetting the NZ shooter said anything.


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't let what he said affect your actions, ever.


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Echo#4759
That's bullshit, because victim cards only work for people who already have power


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Not really cause much of his manifesto was alt right talking points


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Arvid#8335
The alt-right guys are gonna play the victim card no matter what.


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, you're best just watching PDP and then saying that it's too whiny and moving on with your life.


[02-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of some bullshit about how he's racist or alt right or any of that.


[02-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Echo#4759
They want you to hurt and attack everyone until everyone's sick of your shit. Seems to be working pretty well


[02-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Mikey#7286
the alt-right have no real purpose tbh lol


[02-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
They can try to play the victim card but it feels pretty hollow when they keep murdering people


[02-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
"purpose"


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Echo#4759
They want the "the US was built on fascism" leftists to keep screaming that nice and loud


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're conservatives


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole deal is to use every means available to control the narrative to get power over society to benefit the particular types of people they think are good.


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
They already have that


[02-Apr-19 06:16 AM] Echo#4759
Until you alienate everyone and make them choose between fascism that benefits them and joyless struggle sessions that don't


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, sustaining their control is everything.


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
the colonials literally slaughtered natives


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Echo#4759
"sustaining" lmao


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
they invaded this land from europe


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
and the right now talks about "invaders" from Mexico


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Mikey#7286
don't make me laugh


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fascism was invented by Mussolini


[02-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's reason enough to not trust it


[02-Apr-19 06:18 AM] Echo#4759
Keep it up. You're playing your part well


[02-Apr-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[02-Apr-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mussolini couldn't beat a third world country without poison gas and expanding bullets


[02-Apr-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/1977HomelandSecurity.jpg

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[02-Apr-19 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Facism only benefits them briefly, it's a suicide spiral that keeps redefining purity


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Echo#4759
Hmmm, how does that sound familiar?


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
the colonists had guns and shit, the natives had like


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
knives


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
You kill the blacks and Asians suddenly the Irish are ebil


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bows at the time were actually better than guns.


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
"invaders" from mexico have nothing but the clothes on their backs


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Then the poles and Italians


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble was that the natives lost like 90% of their population to diseases


[02-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time they were starting to recover, the US was in control of everything already.


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
the natives let us stay for the winter and then told us to leave after


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
and we didn't


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Echo#4759
What myth is this?


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Arvid#8335
Yeah because they were exposed to diseases they hadn't developed immunity to


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
"myth"


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[02-Apr-19 06:20 AM] Arvid#8335
Myth?


[02-Apr-19 06:21 AM] Mikey#7286
m8


[02-Apr-19 06:21 AM] Mikey#7286
this is common knowledge in history, are you denying that the european settlers slaughtered native americans and stole their land?


[02-Apr-19 06:21 AM] Mikey#7286
hahahahaha


[02-Apr-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was mostly smallpox.


[02-Apr-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the flu.


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Echo#4759
There were hundreds of years of contacts between natives and explorers. What incident are you talking about them offering only a winter stay?


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tuberculosis too


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
settlers still killed many of them


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were a lot of diseases


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
we really had no right to take their land


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
All coming at once.


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
and now we keep them on reservations


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
because fuck them


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
The Aztecs built an island cause they could they weren't squatting in the jungles eating bugs


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Echo#4759
Why, borders and land ownership are imaginary, right?


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Arvid#8335
What


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you fukknig saying


[02-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you FUKKING SAYING


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that because land ownership is a thing


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's okay that we stole their land?


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
That's literally the Ayn Rand argument


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, I believe one can own apples, THAT'S WHY I MUGGED APPLE BLOOM TO DEATH


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Mikey#7286
OMG


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Echo#4759
If someone wants to immigrate, what right did the natives have to stop them? Should they have built a wall?


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
"savages didn't use it so it's fine"


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, what they actually did


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
get this


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
is they made treaties


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that controlled how people could come in


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
what could be built


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
who owned the land


[02-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had all these agreements


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US broke every single one of them.


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Mikey#7286
@Echo by that logic, what right do we have from stopping mexicans from coming here?


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing with the Trail of Tears was massively unconstitutional


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Mikey#7286
🤔


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the American people hated it


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the president at the time just didn't care


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it"


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and by the time it was over, it couldn't be undone.


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Jackson was kind of a twat


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
"kind of a"


[02-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Jackson was a psychopath


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jackson ruined the national banking system over a personal grudge


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Like comically


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very odd way to say "a genocidal fukkhole"


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Echo#4759
Mikey, most leftists don't think we do. Which is amusing when they start breaking out the homeland defense 1400s meme


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656

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[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Mikey#7286
keep in mind, i think we should have borders and if people want in, make it streamlined to get legal citizenship


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't do it


[02-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's using schrodinger's argument


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to use things we didn't say to establish we can't say it was wrong to genocide natives


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
"it's alright to move in to native lands to murder them and take their land for ourselves. Also, wtf these other people are coming for a better life KICK EM OUT"


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then using a different thing alternately as it suits him.


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
he's literally equating peaceful immigration to violent invasion


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's doing two strawmans at once


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Mikey#7286
but it's hypocritical to rage about "mexcian invaders" who don't have weapons or diseases when the euro settlers came here with advanced tech and disease


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Echo#4759
Which one is wrong? It has to be one or the other. I'm not fussed which


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the historian perception of jackson is fuckin' weird


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a false dichotomy.


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
*extremely* mixed


[02-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
just like he equated ostracization for personal views to exterminating an ethnicity yesterday


[02-Apr-19 06:27 AM] Honahue#0656
There's a difference between Europeans coming over and fucking shit up because they had guns and horses and refugees fleeing countries because America has a tendency to destabilize Latin American governments


[02-Apr-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
"borders exist" and "we should let refugees FUKKIN' DIE" are not the same thing


[02-Apr-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are options between no borders and the Iron Curtain


[02-Apr-19 06:28 AM] Mikey#7286
we shouldn't let refugees die but we should keep borders, we at least give native americans their own rights and they don't pay taxes afaik


[02-Apr-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, most of them are so poor


[02-Apr-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
they wouldn't owe taxes if they did them


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like we're talking the sort of poverty where you put tires on your roof


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Mikey#7286
a lot of them make money from casinos


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Echo#4759
What are those options? Because one side is demanding an end to all border enforcement


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Mikey#7286
like here in Niagara Falls


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know why they put tires on their rooves?


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
no one's demanding that


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a strawman, Echo.


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
people wonder why "them damn soshulists" are gaining momentum when the conservatives attack anything left of center as being communist while pretending they don't implicitly support nazi ideals, while the socialists are completely open about their views and welcoming anyone to talk about them


[02-Apr-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you need your roof to not blow away


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But rooves are hard to make sturdy


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
pretty sure the people advocating for "removal of all border enforcement" are so far left that they make up .00001% of the US population, if even that


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you can put tires on them to hold them down.


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
like 80% of people want border enforcement


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tire roof poverty is a level of poverty you do not want to see.


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Casinos are at best a pyrric victory


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't even consider myself moderate left, tbh, i'm more center left


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Echo#4759
How the fuck is "abolish Ice, open borders now" a strawman when democratic congresspersxns talk about it in the house?


[02-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't those particular congresspeople.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Abolish ice is right but the second part is wrong


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Echo#4759
A strawman has to be made up, not something your side is literally demanding


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"open borders now" is not the same as "no borders"


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"open" is highly ambiguous.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A strawman need not be made up.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are not a side.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Arvid#8335
Abolishing ICE and abolishing borders all together are not the same thing


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Mikey#7286
i see it as making it easier to gain citizenship


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A strawman can be a real person who is not who you are arguing with.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's still a strawman.


[02-Apr-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you are using something other than your opponent's position as a fake substitute for their position.


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Defeating that position has no bearing on the argument.


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's cherrypikking to find the most objectionable things only


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Arvid#8335
Getting rid of ICE is a pretty sensible idea


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
ICE is a police force created by the patriot act to oppress foreigners, it replaced a public service agency in favor of wannabe cops


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you insist that any leftist's argument is relevant to the argument


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Mikey#7286
the patriot act was a mistake


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
then that means we can discuss ANY leftist's argument


[02-Apr-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just those who want ICE abolished


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could be discussing outright Leninism according to you


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Mikey#7286
and the TSA is fukking useless


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is absurd


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
Cops in general are pretty good awful


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could be discussing ten different leftist arguments on borders


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Mikey#7286
nah, a lot of them are just doing their jobs


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
all of which are incompatible approaches.


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
cops could be better, yes


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I won't say they're *bad*


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cops need more screening


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
MANY of them are bad


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It comes from the top and the bottom


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Naturalization_Service

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Naturalization_Service
Immigration and Naturalization Service
The United States Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) was an agency of the U.S. Department of Labor from 1933 to 1940 and the U.S. Department of Justice from 1940 to 2003.
Referred to by some as former INS and by others as legacy INS, the agency ceased to exist under...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Seal_of_the_United_States_Immigration_and_Naturalization_Service.svg/1200px-Seal_of_the_United_States_Immigration_and_Naturalization_Service.svg.png


[02-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The top wants things easy, the bottom hates brown people.


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
most do their jobs, we just see the bad cops plastered over our newsfeed


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they meet in the middle, brown people get shot to death.


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
of course, we'd like to see less of that


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but "cops are awful" is not an accurate generalization


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the cop who got fired for not instantly shooting a brown guy holding an unloaded gun trying to do suicide by cop?


[02-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
The cop profession attracts the kind of people that would abuse it, this has actually been studied


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need good screening on applicants.


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise you get very very bad cops.


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Mikey#7286
cops have a dangerous job, too


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
honey can attract flies, that's also been studied


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's what flypaper and stuff is for


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter how dangerous their job is


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah they do though, if you're too smart you can't be a cop


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[02-Apr-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
a dangerous job means you should screen better


[02-Apr-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause someone acting wrong in a crucial window


[02-Apr-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
could cause more people to die than if no cops had shown up at all.


[02-Apr-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Escalating hostage situations, causing a full shoutout just from one deranged guy who would've gone home, etc.


[02-Apr-19 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't understand people who say we should get rid of police in general, like people who bitch about being ticketed for speeding


[02-Apr-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cops must be held to higher standards than the average person.


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Disarm cops arm the homeless


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
speed limits exist for a reason


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And should generally not be given guns.


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Speed limits often don't exist for good reason.


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
once again, only a negligible portion of the population advocates for removal of all cops


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
wrong


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
if people are going at different speeds


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They serve as a way to tikket people and don't necessarily make an area safer


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
They bank roads for a reason


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
People almost always go at similar speeds.


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
accidents are more bound to happen


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Accidents increase with higher actual speed, but speed limits don't guarantee lower actual speed.


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Probably mostly for big Trucks


[02-Apr-19 06:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
most people tend to match the speed of their surroundings


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
although speed limits I think are still necessary


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Echo#4759
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/open-borders-immigration.html

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By FARHAD MANJOO
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/open-borders-immigration.html
Opinion | There’s Nothing Wrong With Open Borders
Why a brave Democrat should make the case for vastly expanding immigration.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/01/16/opinion/16manjoo-2/16manjoo-2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Ban cars install trains


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
An opinon piece in the NYT?


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just to strawman us?


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk off.


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Oh wow an opinion piece


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Much rhetoric


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't write that opinion piece.


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Echo#4759
Top result for "open borders" is the new York times calling for completely open borders.


[02-Apr-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I havn't even looked at it


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok well good for it


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
dude


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
An opinion piece


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an OPINION piece


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's not what we're advocating


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
an OPINION piece


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you know what those words mean?


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
none of us are advocating for the opinion this dude has


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how they relate to the stances of the NYT?


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
m8 you _are_ strawmanning us now


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
lmaoooo


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's strawmanning the fukking NYT lol


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Echo#4759
"strawman" is just a word that means "we don't want you to notice the end goal we're moving towards until it's too late"


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying someone wrote an opinion piece they published


[02-Apr-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore they as a whole believe it


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's not how that works.


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's definitely not what strawman means.


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
or that the left as a whole or even most leftists want no borders


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
hahahahahahhahahahaha


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
A strawman comes from scarecrows


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeas that's a logical fallies with a name even, construction fallacy


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you build a man of straw


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
to look like a man


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
you can't just treat the view of one democrat as the view of the majority of Democrats


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Or hasty generalization


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it really isn't the actual farmer.


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
They both kinda the same


[02-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sometimes you burn it in effigy etc. with some stuff on the face


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think England still does that with Guy Fawkes


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
possibly


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
" At some point, for reasons that are unclear, it became customary to burn Guy Fawkes in effigy, rather than the pope."


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he was a catholic who was rightfully mad about Parliament and failed pretty badly to blow it up.


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(Guy Fawkes Day)


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Mikey#7286
remember remember the fifth of november :^)


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also I know I'm not really helping but this conversation is getting a bit sidetracked


[02-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
M8


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
The only man to walk into parliament with honest intentions


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
~~v for vendetta was a fukking awesome movie btw don't @ me~~


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This conversation is an argument with someone who thinks that calling out his fallacious bullshit means we're part of a leftist plot


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no sidetrakks


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're a train going across an open bog at 500 mph


[02-Apr-19 06:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
maybe, but what does "Guy Fawkes" have to do with that conversation


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's burned in effigy


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
with straw men


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
only tangentially related


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is symbolic of the concept of the fallacy's meaning.


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Echo#4759
I love how democrats calling for completely defunding immigration enforcement while left wing pundits call for having no immigration enforcement is... Something you have to be a conspiracy theorist to notice?


[02-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
People burn a straw man of Guy Fawkes because burning actual catholics is illegal, basically.


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Democrats", "left wing pundits"


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Mikey#7286
conspiracy theory?


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"completely defunding" and "no immigration enforcement"


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
should I just pull up the NZ shooter's manifesto


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
way to speak in extremes


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Mikey#7286
m8 do u watch alex jones


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and something that one Arizona state lawmaker said


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know, the one who like


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
paid a retarded 14 year old boy for sukk and fukk


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Echo#4759
Yeah, could you post that?


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then argue against that?


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[02-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
say that that's what you believe


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore you hav to defend it?


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Echo#4759
What?


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that's what your logic says I can do


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://democrats.org/about/party-platform/#broken-immigration

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nunezj
https://democrats.org/about/party-platform/
Party Platform - Democrats
The Democratic Party is fighting for a country where everyone, from every walk of life, has a shot at the American dream.
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/2016_Pattern_Blue_1200x3001.png


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"total defunding"


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to your logic, I just need to find people on your "side"


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"no immigration enforcement"


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sheesh


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then I can argue against it as being your argument


[02-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Mikey#7286
hey, trump wants to defund environmental regulations :^)


[02-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You wholeheartedly support the NZ shooter, right? Just like I wholeheartedly support, I dunno, some guy who thinks that we should never arrest someone for crossing borders?


[02-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I also clearly support a guy who says the exact opposite


[02-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause he's also part of the left


[02-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
his name's Bob, probably.


[02-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's just a different part of the liberal blob monster.


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
liberalz bad


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, like


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Mikey#7286
>:I


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
is Hitler left or right?


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should I argue against Hitler as you, or should you argue against Hitler as me?


[02-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or is Hitler centrist and we should both argue against him?


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
speaking of which, I find it odd that he called himself a "socialist" despite advocating for ridiculously right-wing policies


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who, echo?


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hitler


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
"it's in the name national SOCIALISM checkmate libs"


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, no, you don't understand


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler didn't do that part of it


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Nazi party's whole strategy was to hav like ten different guys doing things


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know, right wingers talk about how leftists are "NPCs" but then you have people on the right who repeat shit in similar fashions, Trump repeats a lot of shit like that too :thunk:


[02-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that no one person or their exact statements could be held accountable


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler often put people in conflicting positions of authority


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there's just way too much generalization going on right now on both sides, not gonna lie


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What actually became policy was pretty much random


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Echo#4759
I'll save this convo for the next time borders come up


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Save what even?


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
seriously Trump acts just like an "NPC" as much as the right claims the left does


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And part of what the Nazis did to succeed was steal from their opponents


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
so you have no argument


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Mikey#7286
got it


[02-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they took the name "Socialism" cause it was broad and undefined


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then from it they took the idea of extended worker vacations


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Nah they took it cause it was popular


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and some gov't-run factories


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm guessing that he wants to try and call us out at some future time when we start hypothetically calling for "total defunding and no immigration enforcement"


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
broad, undefined, and good-sounding


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
And it was better defined then than now


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Echo#4759
I don't need an argument if you guys contradict your own within a few weeks


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
the easiest way to pretend you "won" an argument is not to say anything to begin with


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
dude we are different people


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought as much


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
potato isn't like, the blob monster's other tentacle


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Now it's like "when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does the more socialist it is"


[02-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is a separate person


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you understand this?


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wait a second


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is not brainwashed by a mind slug that also controls me and Crow


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If me and him hav different views


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wat


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't mean that we are hypocrites


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also yeah


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means we are different people.


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay?


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
despite all the "own da libz with facts and logic" memes, most conservatives actually rely almost solely on feelings to make arguments


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know this is a hard concept to grasp.


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Mikey#7286
yup


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
therein lies the problem though


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the left doesn't actually sit in a secret circle every night


[02-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and determine what every individual person should say.


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the left really needs to START adding emotions into their arguments


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Mikey#7286
ben shapiro regularly relies on feelings


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
>tfw symbollic logic exam this Wednesday


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
btw, he hasn't responded to any accusation of implicitly supporting really shitty policies and instead shifts to another topic which he thinks just by mentioning OWNZ DA LIBZ at face value without actually asserting an opinion on the matter beyond incredibly dated talking points that have literally been talked to death years a go


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or they're going to bore their voters to death with hard facts


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are some guys who like a pony website


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Arvid#8335
I notice that everytime an alt-right guy comes into a politics chat or thread the subject matter starts changing every two seconds.


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I barely even talk to other people about politics outside of this channel.


[02-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Subject-hopping is a favored alt right tactic


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I just like shitting on Elon Musk


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want a hook they can use to tear off your face with


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
any hook


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll probe until they find one.


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you start actually defeating their argument


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Echo#4759
Nebbie, you've spent the last week taking about "the alt right blob monster ' like it's one dude with a thousand puppets, which include all republicans and all historical right wing groups.
You don't get to make the" everyone is a unique individual and can't be lumped into groups"card


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just abandon it


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'ma be real, y'all like to generalize all conservatives too


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
call them all monsters


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Arvid#8335
Elon Musk's new track was horribly unfunny, Harambe? Please pick a more up to date meme dude.


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying all generalization is bad


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Echo#4759
Your "they" is fucking ridiculous


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
I don't


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
that's mostly nebbie tbh


[02-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying that I can't put up a strawman for what your actual beliefs are.


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
fine "you all" wasn't the best wording


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I *have* noticed a lot of conservative generalization in this politics chat


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what I can do is identify your tactics and how they're relatively common.


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"all conservatives are racist and hate the poor and ..."


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
conservatism is kinda dumb


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Echo#4759
You already did, mate. You jumped straight to "this is an alt right trick I heard about on YouTube" the second I said something in here


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Conseravites are almost universally racist and poor-hating


[02-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Outside America, it's a bit different


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
But you do use them


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you will very rarely see a group that is okay with blakks and the poor


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Mikey#7286
relying on "tradition" has caused us to regress as humans and it's had harmful effects on some serious shit


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'd like to doubt that quite a bit


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because America is mostly white and conservatism tends to require being in power


[02-Apr-19 06:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
although I will admit I lack the concrete evidence for a complete argument


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Echo#4759
Yeah, and leftists are scum who just want to destroy society so they can put themselves on top. Just American ones though:I'm not going to generalize


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Mikey#7286
conservatism like refusing to move away from harmful fossil fuels etc


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big trouble is


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
fiscal conservatism etc.


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't really make sense when you use arguments like economic benefit


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the data doesn't really bakk it up without pretty crazy moral philosophies


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't believe in heirarchies so it'd be kinda hard for me to put myself on top


[02-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The simplest way to reach such policies is by racism as a starting point.


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I wouldn't quote the vid if you weren't,like, being exactly what it talked about


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato, that's what the alt-right will always rely on, they'll bring up a billion topics until they find one you might not've seen much or any information on until you admit that you don't know very much about it and then say that you got owned while knowing even less about the topic than you do


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
racism is an unwelcome addition to the conservative agenda; I really don't think that's what conservatives fundamentally stand for, though.


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
bla bla leftists are nongenuine and just want themselves and allies on top.


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Potato...actually it kind of is


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the conservative-liberal divide


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
and if you push them on the topic, they'll either make up bullshit or enter whataboutism mode


[02-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in, let's say everything is conservative or liberal


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
what is the difference in approach between the two sides?


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking a very general principle about worldview.


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I will admit that conservatives do tend to tolerate inequality better and dislike change more


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for a moment, let's talk broader than America


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
most leftists tend to resemble each other somewhat, no matter where they are in the world


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and not get into "always a bigger fish", which is America-specific)


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Mikey#7286
i also think conservatism a la religious tradition is harmful to humanity as a whole


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Echo#4759
"one side are goodies, and one side are evil baddies", we know. Your don't have to waste a bunch of words fluffing the concept


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
You put words in mouths


[02-Apr-19 06:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the core difference is how the outgroup is treated


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives vary wildly based on location


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
how different things as a whole are treated


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are Lovecraft, Liberals are Star Trek


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Shit I like both those


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Mikey#7286
like, especially as more scientific progress comes out, religion becomes more and more irrelevant if you ask me


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Echo#4759
Leftists are daleks


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Lovecraft


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other, the different, is scary and unknowable


[02-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is something that you must run away from or destroy


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is based on fear


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Mikey#7286
some conservative ideals are good tho, tbh


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so your only response is to return to the familiar


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
In Lovecraft it's something that usually kills you or you go insane


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which you don't fear


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I do like the idea of individual freedom, ngl


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Echo#4759
I already told you, you don't have to fluff up the demonizing. Just say it straight


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about freedoms here, potato


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's left vs. right


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is liberal vs. conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Arvid#8335
Conservatives don't support individual freedom


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Echo#4759
And tell us what you want done to the evil conservatives who can't coexist with others


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was expanding on something Mikey said


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Mikey#7286
no one's demonizing right wings or conservatism as a whole


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Echo#4759
Lmao


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Mikey#7286
just a lot of american conservatism for example is bad


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives can support individual freedom, but it's usually for the "in" group


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, liberalism's approach is primarily based on understanding/embracing the other, the different


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
basically, whoever's in power deserves all the freedom, while those not in power deserve to die


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Echo#4759
Have you guys ever gotten out of your internet echo chamber?


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are more likely to follow the other person's eyes when they dart to looking at a corner in a conversation.


[02-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Mikey#7286
@Echo have you?


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Says the guy named echo


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals also feel more strongly empathy when seeing pictures of hurt strangers.


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
can we not resort to mudslinging and shit


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is about valuing the self


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
the fact that you're still here proves this isn't an echo chamber


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Arvid#8335
When most people say individual freedom, basically what they mean is a system where everyone can pursue their own self intrests.


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism is about valuing the other


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism's strength is it can help avoid truly dangerous strangers and result in coming out on top


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Mikey#7286
also i love how you ignored that I said some parts of conservatism is gud


[02-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism's strength is it can prevent rebuffing helpful strangers and result in mutual cooperation


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Mikey#7286
some parts of liberalism is bad, too


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Echo#4759
Half my friends are conservative, half are raging hippies. The way you all talk would get you kicked out of polite society here


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
also, I wonder how many people think I'm actually a socialist due to all the cawmmunism and cawmrade puns


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Side note: You're not exactly talking any better, Echo


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Arvid#8335
When conservatives think "freedom", they basically think it's when the private sector does things.


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, potato, when it comes to how they govern


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Then they aren't as hippy as you think


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
uhm, conservatives and hippies would be screaming at each other incoherently


[02-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are all about xenophobia before reason


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
if you are friends with both groups as you say, they'd never politely interact with each other


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I can pull up chatlogs that show how "civilized" your discourse has been so far


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
maybe snidely at best


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Arvid#8335
The private sector is by no means always the best way for people to pursue their self intrests.


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ANYway


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals however generally don't hav much getting in the way of reason


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Echo#4759
Turns out they don't do what you'd expect based on your insane reddit-tier political philosophy


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, liberals also tend to be a lot slower to do things


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm trying to take a centrist approach here


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, Democracy is much slower to do things as a whole


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I really doubt conservatives are fundamentally racist


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Reddit teir


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they are


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the thing


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Echo#4759
Which you only made up to talk shit about the other


[02-Apr-19 07:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there's no way that American conservatism could have survived to modern day in this anti-racist climate


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is about finding differences to fear


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if it was


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
i think relying on religion and keeping clearly outdated rules and systems is bad, like using certain energy systems or religious mantras a la "homosexuality is a sin" are great examples of bad conservatism


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Xenophobia is inherent to it as a concept.


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now it need not be race


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but race is a common one to use.


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
from personal experience, it's usually conservatives attacking people for not being exactly like them


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism requires bogeymen.


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
both in real life and on the internet


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there are no bogeymen, conservatives just behave like liberals.


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
or choosing to ignore science in favor of religion as well


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is having something to fear that creates the very distinction.


[02-Apr-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
I've been called a raging communist and a filthy nazi by people on both sides


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Arvid#8335
I think, liberals, progressives, socialists, anarachists, and communists are more true to the priniciple of individual freedom than conservatives, even if it looks like conservatives are for the individual on a surface level.


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
I just take it to mean that I'm a radical centrist


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Mikey#7286
keeping borders is an example of good conservatism


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism tends to sort of support individualism because of the reliance on the self over the other


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Echo#4759
Conservatives can't be trusted around the other, this is clear. They can't be cured:their illiberal degeneracy is inherent, and hereditable.


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
since the only difference between a radical centrist and a regular centrist is that a radical centrist has an opinion


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other can even be the gov't.


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm always curious as to why anarchists are grouped at far left if they want literally 0 government


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Ah radical centrism the South Park political philosophy


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Echo#4759
There is clearly only one solution


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
echo calm down with the sarcasm


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because anarchists want to embrace change.


[02-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Wew


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Change is inherently liberal


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Honahue#0656
You just made a bunch of assumptions


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Arvid#8335
@IAmADeliciousPotato mutual aid long story short


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
is he finally revealing his nazi sympathies?


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
let's talk about left v right now, potato


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Echo#4759
No, because that's what he's saying


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
is he going to reveal


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
THE FINAL


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Mikey#7286
letting people keep their guns as long they use responsible gun ownership is also good IMO


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
SOLUTION


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, left v right is a *different* dichotomy of worldview


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I agree with that


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Mikey#7286
as long as you don't just let anyone have guns


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's related, but not quite the same


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
strict father vs nurturing parent


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that was how Lakoff viewed it .-.


[02-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Anarchist don't specifically want change they just want and end to illegitamate heirarchies


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Left v right comes from the French Revolution


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but do proceed


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the king asked who was on his side


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Granted that takes a lot of change currently


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the people on the right said yes


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Echo#4759
No, he's just going to darkly hint at it for the next hour, while bringing up all the "crimes" that conservatives must be "made to pay for"


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the ones on the left said no


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
I like how he completely ignored the fact that I'm called a filthy nazi and latched onto the communist part


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
left v right is about accepting/rejecting authority above all else


[02-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Man no retributive punishment rarely works


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left places reason before authority. If the king is wrong, you disobey the king.


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right places authority before reason. If the king is wrong, you obey the king.


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel as if the differences between left-wing and right-wing stem from tolerance of inequality and tolerance to change


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, in general


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the king isn't gonna push for new stuff


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's gonna support old stuff


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and BECAUSE the king was in power, the right would like it to stay that way


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
or else he wouldn't be king


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, humans naturally love retribution for perceived crimes


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the right tends to be conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the left tends to be liberal


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this is not certain.


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
@Crow and it's dumb and ineffective


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
the only difference is for how long that retribution should last


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
and of what type


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting this together


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Echo#4759
Yes, the French left definitely were paragons of reason and anti-authority.
That's why their Committee For Public Safety executed tens of thousands of people


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right conservatives are about xenophobic authority even against reason.


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Echo#4759
See what I mean about darkly hinting?


[02-Apr-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's because robespierre got into power and then wanted it to STAY that way


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Left liberals are about openness and reason...with little authority.


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Echo#4759
Hahaha


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the "committee of public safety" was formed when france was basically a dictatorship masking as a republic


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Echo#4759
Until the guillotine comes out


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Rodespierre was voted in on a yearly basis


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Echo#4759
No, it did not. The dictatorship was later


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Mikey#7286
a lotta conservatives also rely on religious authority


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
He was popular


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is inherently conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and inherently right instead of left.


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
"so and so is bad because imaginary guy in the sky said so"


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it often is without as much racism


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Echo#4759
The dictatorship after the Thermador reaction ended the terror. Your history is bullshit


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it doesn't *need* racism.


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Genesis is so boring it's just a list of what Jews fucked


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
"even tho said guy is probably not real"


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It relies instead on fear of "sin"


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and of other religions


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
or lakk of religion.


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
that goes for all religions btw


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why religious leaders were very important in standing up to slavery


[02-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't need racism to justify their political beliefs


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was under the idea that the Jacobins had formed an oligarchy under the reign of terror with Robespierre in charge


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
and people like to claim religion gives them morals and makes them live better


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what's wrong with that idea


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could get into the right and to conservatives


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Echo#4759
No


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
like m8


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
while being against racism.


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
religion didn't invent morality


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
man did


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
they also invented religion


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Echo#4759
Anyway, have fun. Let me know when you finally want to announce the final solution to the conservative menace


[02-Apr-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Conservatives


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not trying to attack conservatives here fam


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
These days they're a lot less religious


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Mikey#7286
but anyways, religion is dumb and pointless


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause everyone's a lot less religious


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a result, they need fear of other things


[02-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do still use religion, tho, as it's a big part of them even when reduced


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why the Islamophobia


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that alone wouldn't be enuff


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fear needs more targets


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
some being did not create everything, early people were fearful of the natural world because they didn't understand it


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
like the sun


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I see a lot of churches in the Midwest tho


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so there's Mexicans and Syrians as racial groups


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
so they made them into high beings and worshipped them


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
and that's an early form of how religion came to be


[02-Apr-19 07:15 AM] Echo#4759
And remember:leftists always need a "counter revolutionary" enemy to destroy. Once they kill one, they'll move onto another


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Mikey#7286
keep telling yourself that


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
who's my enemy?


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
I don't have an enemy


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and gays act as both a religious fear, and a fear of the straight majority etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
But why would anyone assume the "final solution" is a Holocaust?


[02-Apr-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
On top of this


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

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Final Solution
The Final Solution or the Final Solution to the Jewish Question was a Nazi plan for the genocide of Jews during World War II. The "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" was the official code name for the murder of all Jews within reach, which was not restricted to the Europe...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Heydrich-Endlosung.jpg


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
remember, conservatism values the familiar


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Mikey#7286
homosexuality is bad cuz guy in the sky said so


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's capitalism


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Echo#4759
Listen to nebbie, crow. He knows exactly who the enemy is. He's that sort


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Besides the obvious historical connection


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, he hates racists and bigots, so?


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Echo#4759
He'll do nothing but preach about the enemy until you're ready to stab them yourself


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing wrong with that


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Solutions to problems need not be violent


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is all, in theory, about people who work hard getting on top


[02-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Echo#4759
And you'll listen


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and religion, especially American religion (calvinism) believes in predestination


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in, who is on top is God's plan


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You made it as CEO because God wanted you as CEO


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
honestly why shouldn't I hate someone who thinks I should be put under for liking the same sex?


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, American Conservatives


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
I don't personally like racists and bigots either, but I'm not going to go out of my way to attack them unless they attack me first


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
believe that you got to where you are because you deserved it


[02-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Echo#4759
Why not? They're hateful, after all


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that blakk gay trans people don't deserve it


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
because I'm not a reactionary


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's why they havn't made it etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Why does everything have to be solved by violence?


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
he won't answer


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
That's a mighty assumption


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Echo#4759
That makes you the hero, and there'll be plenty of media celebrating your hatred


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
because he doesn't comprehend the idea that you don't actually have to solve everything with violence


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Potato, when I talk about American Conservatism


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Not really


[02-Apr-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason I'm approaching it as something that's pretty much pure evil


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
like i'm sorry for thinking people like that West Virginia lawmaker who said he'd drown his son if he found he was gay shouldn't be in power


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause uh, it essentially treats perfectly fine people as monsters to be slain


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Often literally indirectly killing them


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Besides heroes usually save people not murder wontonly that's was a 90's antihero thing


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Echo#4759
You are going to "solve" it with violence, just like the left always does.


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Why?


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
You're assuming


[02-Apr-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
you keep saying that yet you have no proof that's what the left does


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, one of the heros of the left was Gandhi


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
His entire deal was nonviolence


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that was considered novel at the time


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, did I say "doesn't comprehend"? I meant "physically incapable of comprehending"


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Previously pretty much everything, left or right, used violence


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gandhi is a huge influence on leftist thought


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Echo#4759
I'm sure there'll be some "oh, we didn't mean it that way!" bullshit like the nyt pulled with Walter Duranty, but it will come to violence


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a dominant strategy but a poor one


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And was a groundbreaker in pacifism


[02-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yet, people insist the left is more violent than the right


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because...Stalinism was violent


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess?


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
stalinism wasn't leftism lmao


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism being one guy's usurping of an entire political entity to become a dictatorship


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't actively violent, but it was definitely really shitty and caused a lot of death


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Honahue#0656
I'll make Stalin look like a fucking anarchist


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he definitely wasn't leftist


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
stalin was conservative as fuck


[02-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was right conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Echo#4759
Of course. All bad people are conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Marx was left and CLEARLY STALIN FOLLOWED MARX GUYS


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
and there it is


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://www.thoughtco.com/how-conservatives-think-about-race-in-america-3303477

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https://www.thoughtco.com/how-conservatives-think-about-race-in-america-3303477
How Conservatives Think About Race in America
The way conservatives see race informs their world view, policy choices and programs.
https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/KbQIQ7LKCvWqcGCFmcBuC8Za1cI=/724x483/filters:fill(auto,1)/GettyImages-638456348-58d937575f9b584683893c5e.jpg


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
was going to inb4 it too


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
:(


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
no one is saying that


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm still not too sure about what to think about the argument "conservatives are fundamentally racist"


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
because conservatives always assume that because you said "conservative", you must be directly attacking them


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
solidarity forever


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are fundamentally fearful


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so I tried pulling from an unbiased site


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
racism is based on anxiety


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[02-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can actually make people less racist with anti-anxiety medication.


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
people are fearful of stuff they don't understand


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(inb4 THE LEFT WILL BRAINWASH US WITH PILLS)


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Echo#4759
Uhhh, "thoughtco" sounds like one of these clickbait blogs


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/thoughtco/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/thoughtco/
ThoughtCo - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least...
https://i0.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/default-thumb.jpg?fit=600%2C326&ssl=1


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Echo#4759
Check who funds them


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
thta goes back to what i said about religion


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
least biased + factual reporting very high


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
despite the fact that conservatives in every country vary wildly, they all share two very fundamental views: everyone else is inferior, and any attack on conservatism in any country is an attack on conservatism in their country


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Listen to what conservatives say about mexicans etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all about the fears


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wouldn't have posted a link in here if I sensed bias or bullshit


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
"god-fearing" isn't some made up dumb statement


[02-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things like "Immigrants from SYRIA, a TERRORIST COUNTRY"


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Echo#4759
Lmao


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual quote btw from a commercial supporting Ryan Zinke for the House last year


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
to quote the article in a similar manner to what crow does


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or was it Gianforte?


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure we're the terroists in Syria


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
>"Conservatives are much less apt to adopt sympathetic attitudes toward minorities on the basis of their race alone. Conservatives assume racial equality exists to begin with and base their policies on that assumption."


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Echo#4759
Enjoy the circle jerk, I've gotta sleep


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
One common thing, Potato


[02-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
you said that 10 minutes ago


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives see blakk men wanting to rise in the social ladder


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they say "but you're already in your right place on it"


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to them


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an intrusion trying to put whites on the bottom


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Echo#4759
"on the basis of their race alone", huh? That's a weasel statement


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
Not really it's pretty direct


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how is it weasel fam


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, it's "anyone rich" and "anyone white"


[02-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
since whites are seen as just temporarily inconvenienced millionaires


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
and hold that view internally


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
that's how it is with my mom, and that's how it used to be with me


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Echo#4759
That's exactly how I'd write it to present "conservatives showed as much sympathy to people in distress, but not based on _race alone_"


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
speaking of racism, Trump is racist tbh


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that much is true


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Honahue#0656
People should stop assuming life is a zero sum game


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Echo#4759
To suit your prejudices


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
it used to be zero sum


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
while I'm not sure if conservatives are racist, Trump is just a far-right wackjob


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Echo#4759
Which you are reading the article to confirm


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
it was zero sum for pretty much all of our evolution millennia


[02-Apr-19 07:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
dude


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives love Trump


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there were a flood of articles saying "yes conservatives ARE racist"


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's only in the past 200 years or so it's been a positive-sum game


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Mikey#7286
what not racist person has to constantly insist "i am the least racist person you have interviewed"


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
In large part because he's racist


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
We're still evolving and we can be smarter


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I picked one that tried to be as unbiased as possible


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see him as a way to beat bakk the scary Mexicans and Syrians and trans people


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
not really, there's no evolutionary pressure on humanity anymore


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
There is though


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like...he actually does beat them bakk


[02-Apr-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
regularly


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Urban environments encourage better immune systems


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
>"If some unconscionable crime is perpetrated upon someone based on that person's ethnicity, conservatives don't believe the victim should receive "more justice" because of it. The idea of "more" or "less" justice doesn't make sense to conservatives, since they believe there can only be one form of justice, applied equally to everyone. If the same unconscionable crime is perpetrated upon someone based on that person's financial circumstances, for example, that victim should be no less entitled to the same pursuit of justice. A crime is a crime, regardless of the motivation behind it."


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
er, that's usually the opposite


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sorry for the wall of text, I'm copy-pasting


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He makes it harder to immigrate, he's preventing trans people from being in the military (if a trans person got a medal of honor...hoo boy)


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
rural areas encourage better immune systems due to being exposed to a wider variety of pathogens


[02-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Nah, you get sick more cause their is more disease but you're still better at surviving it


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
But that's the exact opposite


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you only stop those few diseases


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
anti-vaxxers sure aren't helping there :^)


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
more pathogens, yes, but your immune system is adaptive


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Rural people have fewer pathogens


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
In rural areas, you get many, many diseases in less intensity


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
compared to what


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Echo#4759
Have you ever read "the last psychiatrist"? Ever heard the phrase "if you're seeing it, it's for you"?
You Google "r Republicans real rassist?" to get confirmation that they are, so there are thousands of articles to reassure you.
Just like if you searched for "r dems the real rassists?"


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't need much diseasewise to get immunity


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why vaccines work.


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
the end point is that you won't die from it because of modern medicine, ergo it's no longer evolutionary pressure


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I picked from duckduckgo


[02-Apr-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I tried to pick a search engine that DIDN'T target my biases


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and then picked a source that specifically had NO bias


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm NOT against you


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
evolution only works when the strongest, smartest, and most clever survive


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Especially now with urban areas having so much international travel, Iowa isn't getting too many international flights


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol strawmanning someone RPing centrist as being a stereotypical leftist


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Echo#4759
All search engines target bias because they give you what people searching this terms want to see


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
why mention the search engine?


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was on incognito mode with duckduckgo dude


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
also the reasons anti-vaxxers have for not doing so are all dumb


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's as close as it gets


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how should one find info?


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it seems like


[02-Apr-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
if we search for info


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Honahue#0656
That's not even true though evolution is based on reproductive success, those help but it's survival of the sexy


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
you say we're just getting biased results


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
"my kid will get autism" "god will save my kid" etc


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you havn't put forward a way to get info with less bias


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
when the weakest, dumbest, and most incapable survive, there's no more evolutionary pressure, it's just a big hodgepodge of genes


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
so why is it our fault?


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in case you haven't realized, the content of the article is that "conservatives aren't necessarily fundamentally racist, they believe that racial equality ALREADY exists"


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
kids who live out in rural areas and play around in forests and dirt and shit typically have little to no allergies


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Echo#4759
It's not your fault nebbie. It's the evil conservatives again


[02-Apr-19 07:32 AM] Honahue#0656
But that's still not true Crow they have to make a baby


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
while kids who lived theire entire childhoods in cities usually have much worse allergy problems


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
It might be different pressure but it's still pressure


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
you know what, I'm searching up "are democrats racist" just to satisfy echo's argument


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
It's just not the fit lion and antelope pressure


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll see what I get


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
and I can guarantee living on a farm doing "traditional" farmwork is much dirtier than what you can find in cities


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Believing racial equality already exists is...at best ignorant, btw.


[02-Apr-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats often are racist


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
in both directions, hilariously.


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats often will support people just because of their race etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but on the flipside, many of them are conservative


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
being able to breed is literally one of the most braindead things animals can do lol


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah, before reagan Republicans were a lot more liberal lol


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And aren't a big fan of the blakks voting.


[02-Apr-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, Democrats mostly believe what they preach


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
but when you're talking politicians


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but living in NYC gets you exposed to viruses from around the world. In Basic and at cons you get the cruds cause everyone brings their own unique pathogens with them


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
every one of them is at least a little willing to fudge their beliefs in the moment for a particular result


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
yes, but not in the ways required to build strong immune systems


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
which is mainly ingestion


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means saying THIS BLAKK WOMAN DESERVES MORE even if she doesn't


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
it's why kids put literally everything in their mouths


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and those beliefs may not be totally in line with liberal thinking either


[02-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
so deep down they don't like blakks or gays


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they say they want equality


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And may even still vote for equality.


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what makes politics so complicated.


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honest votes are rare.


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet that in the future, there'll be an immune system booster "vaccine" given every few months which will help the immune system develop naturally


[02-Apr-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're pretty close to that, actually


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Most of the pages that advocate for democrats being racist also tend to have right biases, from what I'm seeing


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but then again


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a contrasting trend can be seen on the left


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
and allergies will be mostly eliminated


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to hang the Democratic party on racism given its defining policy has been racial equality pushes for the last 50 years


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Even then we do have evidence of recent human evolution only a few thousand years old in Sherpas and their wacky altitude adaptations so we are evolving it's just not the way evolution is usually thought of


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
thoughtco was the closest I got to a truly unbiased source :GWvictoriaNotLikeBlob:


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] Echo#4759
If you're searching for it, it was for you


[02-Apr-19 07:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wtf do you want me to do


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter how unbiased you get, it still contains one tiny miswording which makes the whole thing incorrect


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how do you propose I get an objective answer to the question "Are Republicans fundamentally racist?"


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
no matter how illogical that is


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
You really shouldn't do anything burden of proof is on the one making the claims


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[02-Apr-19 07:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't want this to be an argument, I want to fucking KNOW


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Mikey#7286
put up or shut up


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, you looked it up and found out on your own


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Echo#4759
Don't go out looking for a specific answer to that, because all you'll get is think pieces trying to prove it


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
that's why you go to multiple sources


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I did go to multiple sources


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Echo#4759
Figure out what evidence you'd need before you look for it, then go find it


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
you don't just rely on the same source over and over


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
TheAtlantic, FiveThirtyEight


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ThoughtCo


[02-Apr-19 07:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Admittedly the former 2 are left-biased


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Echo#4759
Yes, all of them secondary opinion pieces


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but both did NOT believe in fundamental racism


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
there's no such thing as a "primary" opinion piece


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/conservatism-without-bigotry/544128/

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/conservatism-without-bigotry/544128/
Republican Is Not a Synonym for Racist
Conservatives must reckon with their policies’ discriminatory effects. That would be more likely if liberals stopped carelessly crying bigot.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/2017/11/DIS_Beinart_LeadRacism-3/facebook.jpg?1522344471


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
in science, there's a primary source


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

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FiveThirtyEight
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
Are White Republicans More Racist Than White Democrats?
The comments made by Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling this month demonstrate that the U.S. is far from a colorblind society. And the reaction to their comments …
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/112876562.jpg?w=2700


[02-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
So you did the leg work now Echo should provide some sources if they want to take the opposite stance


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
my stance right now is "conservatives are not intentionally racist, but their actions do come off as such"


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] Echo#4759
Yes, and very often the opinion writers are just trying to find studies to throw at the wall to match a prompt their editor gave them


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
y'know what echo


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
GIVE


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ME


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
YOUR


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
SOURCE


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
TOPIC CHANGE INBOUND


[02-Apr-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
TAKE COVER


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Making a claim and saying it's true isn't a proof


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Echo#4759
Which is why vox just had to pull an article on a study that... Turned out to not actually exist


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
a primary source in science is an article written by the people who conducted the experiment


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Wow journalistic integrity


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm getting kinda frustrated with you, because I feel like I'm being the most receptive to your viewpoint rn


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and you're just shutting me down without y'know


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Echo#4759
I'm literally in a tent on a cell phone. My ability to sauce is pretty limited right now


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
INVESTIGATING THE CONTENT OF THE ARTICLES


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
you sure pulled that NYT article fast


[02-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know I've seen you source like one or two things to back up your claims here


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] Honahue#0656
But you claim to have them


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
a secondary source is either an article making observations based on the primary source, or using the primary source as evidence to support their own article


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] Mikey#7286
@Echo then maybe you should stop partaking in this discussion


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] Echo#4759
Dude, get on Google scholar if you want to find things to take seriously


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
GIVE ME A SOURCE FROM GOOGLE SCHOLAR THEN GODDAMNIT


[02-Apr-19 07:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
GIVE ME YOUR OBJECTIVE "TO-TAKE-SERIOUSLY" SOURCE


[02-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe some key words or a title or an author even


[02-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Echo#4759
I don't have one, because I'm on a phone, in a tent. And I'm not telling you what to believe because I don't have an opinion on it myself


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
ok bye


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
alright, so my belief sticks on "conservatives are unintentionally racist"


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
done


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
no opinion = bye


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
(he's banned)


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Oof


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if you dispute that, I literally just want to see a source contradicting that


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[02-Apr-19 07:45 AM] Mikey#7286
did you ban him @Crow?


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that might have been a bit extra


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
let him back in


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] Mikey#7286
not gonna lie


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] Mikey#7286
i agree


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
he was only here to shitpost about shit he didn't even care about


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
and it was literally the only thing he was doing on the server


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
we've had people just like him come in here plenty of times


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it just frustrates me to death that it's so hard to find unbiased sources in either direction nowadays


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
but they always did other stuff


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2015&q=conservatism+racism&hl=en&as_sdt=0,23


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Mikey#7286
@Nebbie oi


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
thanks honahue


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I did a search, btw I'm also on a phone


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
but he's only been coming here the past 3 days to stir up shit by saying stuff that makes no fucking sense


[02-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Mikey#7286
do you think he shoulda been banned


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was getting there.


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a higher tolerance.


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Mikey#7286
eh


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Honahue#0656
Not exactly thourgh mind but it's more than Echo


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what he did certainly wasn't noble


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Mikey#7286
fair nuff


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it doesn't justify a ban imo


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
as a reminder, sweat tart isn't banned


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy clearly wasn't here to talk politics


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
sweat tart was banned


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, he got unbanned a day later


[02-Apr-19 07:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I swear I saw him on here again


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
I think byte unbanned him


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Mikey#7286
he was just going in circles tbh and making the same claims


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Echo like, just kept insinuating we're all part of some conspiracy or something.


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Eh it kinda sucks too cause now he's gonna go to all his other discords and tell them about the left circle jerk on derpi


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:shrugpony:


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
he was doing that anyway


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
At one point he said Crow should listen to me cause I was saying things that with certain moral assumptions infer that conservatism is evil.


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
if he does actually have other servers


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That I was being a correct partisan or something.


[02-Apr-19 07:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he probably does, let's try not to infer more about the guy tho


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he's out of our discourse


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
should be out of our minds


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
I don't ban people easily btw, it wasn't a split-second decision


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's one of those people that only talked in this channel


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
other than a few words in general


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a huge red flag


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
he hasn't said anything in any other channel besides this one since I think november 2018


[02-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[02-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
People see this channel as a good place to troll.


[02-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if they're kinda on the right.


[02-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Bet there's leftists saying we should actually help the poor in there!" etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, I'm not going to lie, you guys are all fairly left-leaning


[02-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But thing is, on the internet


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so they definitely see this as easy prey


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
most people are left


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they're young


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just seeing a politics channel exists means leftists to TR1GGER etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm just surprised that I was trying to listen to him and yet he still kept pushing me away


[02-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, he's either drank all the conservative koolaid in existence


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
or he's a troll


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
either way


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I didn't even say anything and someone called me a communist at school


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
that's why socialists are making so much headway in grassroots campaigns again in the US


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
he didn't *want* you telling him things, or listening


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
because all the conservatives are pushing people away, even when you give them the benefit of the doubt


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wanted to upset your beliefs.


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they were centrist.


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
I'm personally experiencing this in my real life


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, remember


[02-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives fear the other


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Right is about authority


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You dissent in an unusual way with new, "other" ideas


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
I try so hard to give people the benefit of the doubt and end up getting accused of being a communist because I said that obama maybe didn't do that thing they're so sure he did


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're considered a threat.


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
even though I think obama is a subpar president


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
because of one tiny little detail, I become an enemy


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was the best option at the discount store, basically


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I personally did like Obama, although mostly for his first term


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
particularly how he handled the recession


[02-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
We havn't had a good president in a long time


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama economically was great


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
although something the 538 article brought up


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he didn't improve racial attitudes


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Of the options he was the best but that's says more about our illusion of choice than anything


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social progress stalled with Obama


[02-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't entirely his fault


[02-Apr-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Primarily what happened is Republicans immediately cried foul that a blakk man got in the presidency and was clearly a leftist usurper etc.


[02-Apr-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism had been declining, but something that big can cause reactionary effects.


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Obama did exactly what any neoclassical economist would say to do


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once the Bush hate wore off, it's suddenly "oh shit the blakks are gonna usurp the whites, drive the country off a cliff"


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans in 2010 won big


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Teabaggers


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sudden snap then gave them entrenchment


[02-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fear of big gov't, meanwhile state gov't full of Republicans drew gerrymandered shit


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and cemented the local party power


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
obama's regulations to prevent rapid growth were top-notch though


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Taxed enough already, how'd that work for you under daddy Trump


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
funnily enough, racial attitudes started to dwindle post 2010 according to 538 poll numbers


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, eventually things went bakk to heading towards equality


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you look close


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
there would always be a growth for the first 3 quarters and then a drop at the end


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a party disparity


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican racial attitudes are slightly worsening


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a lot of the graphs show Democrat racial attitudes trending towards egalitarianism


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and Reps towards inequality


[02-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because racists are filtering into the Republican party


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(there's a bunch of other 538 articles on the matter I've read)


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, a recent milestone was


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats passed 50% liberal


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Obama was nice cause while he was pretty shitty in the Middle East I could at least wake up most days and not think about how shitty our government was


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are filtering into the Democratic party while Conservatives filter into the Republican party


[02-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Though perhaps that's the real danger


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, that's exactly what conservatives were doing under obama, waking up feeling like they're personally attacked and oppressed when they were neither


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because of the talking heads saying they're oppressed and attacked


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
politics drives me batshit insane


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I still follow it anyway


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
they felt like the government was the shittiest it's ever been in the history of forever under obama


[02-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, as far as Obama not doing enuff on social progress


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I have to ask though


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
His main failing was engaging with conservatives


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they got was Fox News telling them he's evil


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
and they realize that it's actually true now


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
was the allowing of gay marriage an obama achievement


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
but they don't care because it's owning the libs


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the senators saying the same


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(I just know it happened under him)


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it wasn't.


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was a SCOTUS ruling


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
it was a supreme court ruling


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama's only part in it was abandoning defending the DOMA


[02-Apr-19 08:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
alright


[02-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama and Biden came out as supporting gay marriage in like 2011 IIRC


[02-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Way late


[02-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a clearly political move


[02-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Honahue#0656
He did repeal DADT so that's something I guess


[02-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
as Obama had previously not supported gay marriage


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
DADT repeal was a big deal.


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
It was hilarious


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military loved him for that one.


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
I was in around that time


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Not everyone did


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not everyone, but like, at the level of generals


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, the alt-right are chuckling about how they finally showed the libs how bad the government is by electing a really shitty president that they don't actually agree with very much beyond being politically incorrect


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having extra bullshit to deal with that can lose you top soldiers is not something they enjoy.


[02-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
I knew a lot of fundies that we're pissed and thought it would be the end of the military


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
DADT was expensive and hurt military readiness


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause thing was, in *theory* you don't ask, they don't tell, it's not an issue


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
they don't seem to have a real grasp on exactly how massive our military is


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they do tell...and even if they don't


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
and how far ahead we are of our enemies


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
you would hav to investigate if someone else told on them


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if a guy's brother said he was at a gay bar once


[02-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Well they were afraid there's be like more rapes or something


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the military was forced to waste time investigating it


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Like being in the closet doesn't make a rapist less rapey


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then if they found it to be true, they'd toss the guy out


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho he didn't tell and they didn't ask


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing was way more anti-gay than Republicans made it seem.


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know this topic is like 30 minutes late, but I find it hilarious that Echo said "Use Google Scholar" and of the 3 sources I've successfully digested, 2 of them directly say conservatives are driven by racism


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being in the closet helps rapists


[02-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause then the victim can't speak out.


[02-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, don't ask, *don't tell*


[02-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lol nice, you should link those


[02-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
You could probably use better search terms I really put very little effort in cause I'm on a phone


[02-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
like the US has a new supercarrier that I think is almost ready to be released, if not already out, of which a single one has the 7th largest air force in the world BY ITSELF


[02-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
it was actually approved under obama


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
let's start with the one that doesn't directly state it


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
obama cut back on cruisers and frigates massively


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Honahue#0656
The US Navy is the second biggest airforce


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
aka "the confederate flag is being supported by pride, not racism"


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/jspp/article/view/687

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Support for the Confederate Battle Flag in the Southern United Sta...
Support for the Confederate Battle Flag in the Southern United States: Racism or Southern Pride?


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romney grilling Obama on that was so dumb


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
and focused mainly on destroyers and supercarriers


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
now for the other 2


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=hpc4DwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT8&dq=conservatism+racism&ots=x8PERDITvi&sig=J5WZBUoIRZkJ41S6S4gUyQZV7Tg#v=onepage&q=conservatism%20racism&f=false

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The Reactionary Mind
https://books.google.com/books/content?id=hpc4DwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE733E_OAOHIWGtA9AaU7vgDNS_yaagF9QgGKrLriqYFsbJODIhLSKzSahQePL7PQ7lwMMwudNndvAFjjgX1A9e10DyIGo6HlFGyoZNeeDhiPiU_V7fL23VmssoTTHJz7gK5XR8-A


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOW DARE YOU LESSEN THE NUMBER OF SHIPS FROM ITS PEAK HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO


[02-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Well Force Projection is Americas naval strat


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romney insisted we needed 300 ships


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1065912916685186

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SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research
Subscription and open access journals from SAGE Publishing, the world's leading independent academic publisher.


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just...300 ships


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Park a military base off shore anywhere in the world


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
because carriers can everything cruisers and frigates can, and they can even do a destroyer's job pretty well too, just not as effectively as a destroyer


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how many ships do we usually have


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not 300 particular kinds, no


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
not equivalents, no


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
just...300 ships


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Obama was just more droning and striking brown people as per usual


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
how dare you only hav 285


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Honahue#0656
We have the largest navy


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Any progress was inevitable


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
He still kept the military all pumped up in budget


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Progress on not drone striking was not inevitable


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is still drone striking


[02-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
with less transparency


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Of the like 30 carriers in the world America has like 20ish


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drone strikes are increasingly the go-to tool of American military power


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
is the navy still a useful branch of the military


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
blowing up random brown people.


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
Point is everyone that did imperialism was bad, no good presidents were okay with imperialism period


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Hell yeah


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
very useful


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The navy is the MOST USEFUL branch


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not sure if you've had many good ones using that criteria


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
the US navy is why piracy is basically a dead profession


[02-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Like I said force projection


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US Navy is why every country wants trade deals with us


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and other treaties about ocean use


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
in addition to our big economy


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US Navy is a giant threat


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
Murdering south and central Americans because you'd rather a fascist that supports corporations than a sucdem that has land reform


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
somalian pirates are more or less gone now, got it


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that can reach any coastline


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
The AF can be anywhere in 24 hour the Navy can have a base within a few hundred miles in a few days


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somalian pirates were the last vestige of piracy


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you cannot do piracy in the Atlantic


[02-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US Navy will kill you in 10 hours.


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you're off the coast of Ireland


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so, then: does the US Navy need further expansion


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US Navy may show up first


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it does not


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
no


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's huge


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's fukkhuge


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's so incredibly massive


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Once the Carrier is there you can build stuff in land and then start getting C5s in cause they can land in dirt


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
and each ship projects an absurd amount of power


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 carrier =/= 1 frigate of the 18th century


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Honahue#0656
And C5s are huge


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 carrier is like an entire small country's air force and navy


[02-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Carry tanks huge


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a single mobile unit


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_off_the_coast_of_Somalia

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Somalian_Piracy_Threat_Map_2010.png/1200px-Somalian_Piracy_Threat_Map_2010.png


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It is the largest and most capable navy in the world and it has been estimated that in terms of tonnage of its active battle fleet alone, it is larger than the next 13 navies combined, which includes 11 U.S. allies or partner nations.[6][7][8][9] with the highest combined battle fleet tonnage


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
pfffffft


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav quite a few carriers


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
With like, 5000 people each


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
We have the most carriers


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
nuclear-powered floating cities of pilots


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
By a lot


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
do we have too MUCH navy


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
>By 2010, these patrols were paying off, with a steady drop in the number of incidents. As of November 2017, there were no major vessels or hostages remaining in pirate captivity. In 2017, few piracy incidents were reported as the navies of Asian and European nations began to more actively rescue hijacked ships including the bulk carrier OS 35.


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
possibly


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romney insisted we needed MOAR


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just because we once had a higher number of ships


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
that's what obama was trying to look into


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:thonk:


[02-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama pointed out our ships are more powerful


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
waaaay more powerful


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
than in the past


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Romney probably wanted those ship builder votes


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
to see if we can streamline our navy a bit to do its force projection job better


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just can't fight a US carrier


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
but that would cost jobs


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would need, like


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
hundreds of missiles


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
I can't even imagine


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
trying to fight a US carrier


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
it's just an absurd notion


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't even be near one if it doesn't like you


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're 100 miles away, you're dead.


[02-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Russia could, but only once probably


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav so many carriers, it's very hard to be over 100 miles away


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
russia's entire navy MIGHT be able to take down a single US carrier


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
They like missle cruisers


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
if it had no other support


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a US carrier knows your location and wants you dead, RIP you, get a coffin.


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
And you don't need many missles to get through


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
and it was an ambush


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
china's navy is more of a threat than russia's


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Also Russia has the best subs


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
China could probably take out 3 or 4 carriers.


[02-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Before they lose the war.


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Honahue#0656
China's Navy is laughable


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The remaining US navy would decimate China's cities.


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Unless they really built it up recently


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
have you seen the piece of shit carrier that russia has off of syria's coast?


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the time it takes for those 3 carriers to die


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's practically falling apart


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lost 2 planes on that, didn't they?


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah Russia went for containment not force projection


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally *on* it


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in they failed landings/takeoffs


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a different strat but it works


[02-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/10/30/russias-only-aircraft-carrier-is-damaged-when-dock-sinks-crane-punches-huge-hole-in-ship/

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Russia’s only aircraft carrier is damaged when dock sinks, crane...
The carrier had undergone repairs and was leaving when the floating dock sank.
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[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
loll


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it bent?


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, russia's main threat is the submarines


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
But Russia wasn't trying to build a massive Navy for force projection


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
better angle for takeoff


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Gives a ramp


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Angle of attakk, Its


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes the famous Russian submarine


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like the Kursk


[02-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Certain aircraft want to be facing up to take off


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, their only threat


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Don't hate on the Oscar class


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taildraggers exist for a reason.


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
They are big bois


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
and it's not much of a threat


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So how do you beat a Russian sub


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
destroyers


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't beat subs except outlasting.


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
that's why you only need destroyers and carriers


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You wait until they need to come up for air etc.


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you blow them up


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
They are the best though thanks to Russia's amplr titanium deposit


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
or more realistically capture them.


[02-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@IAmADeliciousPotato Rust and shitty missiles


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
subs can't operate with destroyers in the area


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But subs can't really beat carriers


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
and subs are useless if they can't do their mission objective


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's why I was saying that even carriers can do the jobs of subs somewhat reliably


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
You can avoid destroyers with thermoclines and other tricks


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the modern Navy meta is, subs go around ready to nuke the other guy, and do nothing else


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
They ain't dumb


[02-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroyers make sure subs don't do anything else


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Carriers make everyone your bitch


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the end.


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not too good at navy, how do destroyers keep subs in check


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Depth charges and sonar


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
By being ready to shoot them the moment they see where they are


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Torpedoes


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point of a sub is to hide until it shoots


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Heck they can hide and shoot


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point of a destroyer is to be resistant to the sub's shots but be able to fire right bakk and RIP


[02-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Some.of thrm


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to be able to see the sub a little early


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Akulas not so much


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroyers can dodge, as well.


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
the reason why a carrier can't do a destroyer's job 100% reliably is that aircraft have to be ready to kill a sub the moment it engages


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
They old


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also carriers can't turn fast


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're big


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they might not be able to dodge torpedos


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
But most subs barely need support now anyways


[02-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
and it's hard to keep every possible attack angle covered by aircraft


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Months underwater


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But realistically, they're so big that the sub would struggle to take them out even if it got the drop


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So carriers are turning the sea war largely into an air war?????


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroyers are just cheaper


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's an air war right now


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Yamamoto proved that


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you can shoot a missile across the planet


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or you can fly a plane across half of it


[02-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then shoot a missile


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Air suppiriorty is the first objective


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But with a carrier, you can ship a plane across the entire planet


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's a little scary to think about


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
yes, it is


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
modern warfare is incredibly scary


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Take out AA and everything else follows


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
fly around a bit of the planet, in multiple directions with multiple planes


[02-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
then fire missiles down to rain death upon everything


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv me 12 aircraft carrires and I giv you control of the planet, basically.


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
And US planes can fire over the horizon


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
So they don't even see anything


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, potato


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Just a radar blows up


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
And they've lost


[02-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
one time a US carrier really messed up and destroyed a civilian airliner


[02-Apr-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the guy looking at incoming had the cursor for aircraft type put on a radar target that was a US jet in a military base way far away


[02-Apr-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely uninvolved in what it was doing


[02-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US navy and air force are so big and can see things from so far away that sometimes they'll see other bits that *don't even care fighting is going on*


[02-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
America doesn't *need* to go to war right now


[02-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just needs to know where the bad guys are, they'll be dead within a day.


[02-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason insurgencies are a thing is they're good at hiding, so they're the only way anyone can directly oppose the US


[02-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the US wants them to justify its huge military.


[02-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Their lack of infrastructure is their strength


[02-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it keeps them alive a little.


[02-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
It's easy to put down a government, buildings don't move


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://m.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/us-navy-destroyed-airliner.html

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30 Years Ago - U.S. Navy Destroyed an Airliner with 290 Civilians ...
When Iraq invaded Iran in September of 1980 problems arose between the United States and Iran when the U.S. helped Iraq.  By 1988, the conflict was coming
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/00-iranianflight6.jpg


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If buildings could move, the US would still be able to shoot them.


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This one?


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
But hard to stop guys with mortors and AKs that's basically only achievable through genocide


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it was a missile cruiser, not a carrier


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Which is frowned upon


[02-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
less planes, a lot more explosions


[02-Apr-19 08:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah carriers are.more.point defense, they have cruisers and stuff do long distance thing


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US didn't even care it killed almost 300 people on accident


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Don't want guns cluttering up the flight deck


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically considered just the cost of war


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh well, Navy killed another hundred brown people that looked vaguely like a potential threat.


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the USSR did something similar and they got so much more flak for it than the US did


[02-Apr-19 08:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"dick move" would be an understatement


[02-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/korean-airlines-flight-shot-down-by-soviet-union

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Korean Airlines flight shot down by Soviet Union
Soviet jet fighters intercept a Korean Airlines passenger flight in Russian airspace and shoot the plane down, killing 269 passengers and crewmembers. The


[02-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The USSR thing was veeeery different


[02-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't do it on accident


[02-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had visual confirmation it was a civilian airliner


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they decided it was better to shoot than risk it being some kind of weird attempt to spy with a civilian plane


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they lied about their decision


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they agreed to be part of the search for the wrekkage


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they had already found the wrekkage and had a trawler run it over several times with a net to make sure the bodies couldn't be recovered intact


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The pilot said he confused this


[02-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.cosmicbuddha.com/images/kal-crane-thumb.gif

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http://www.cosmicbuddha.com/images/kal-crane-thumb.gif


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With a Canadian maple leaf


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wat


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And just proceeded to harass the other search teams


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also noticed it had civilian lights on


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't care tho


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
Despite the heated public rhetoric, many Soviets and American officials and analysts privately agreed that the incident was simply a tragic misunderstanding. The KAL flight had veered into a course that was close to one being simultaneously flown by a U.S. spy plane; perhaps Soviet radar operators mistook the two. In the Soviet Union, several of the military officials responsible for air defense in the Far East were fired or demoted. It has never been determined how the KAL flight ended up nearly 200 miles off course.


[02-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia also had the blakk boxes


[02-Apr-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't tell anyone they had them until after the fall of the Soviet Union


[02-Apr-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
at which point they brought in the family of the victims and were like SURPRISE here you go


[02-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
There was a.flight that got GPS declassified


[02-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big theory on KAL is that the navigation system didn't care much about latitude


[02-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the one, yes.


[02-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the plane's autopilot saw that they were vaguely near the chekkpoints for the route


[02-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they were a few hundred miles north of where they should've been


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah it's fun any GPS chip you buy by law doesn't work over a certain altitude or speed


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
GPS this is much harder to do because it tells you your position much more accurately


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, those altitudes are pretty high, higher than commercial planes


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
So NK can't just order an aurdino GPS and stick it in a Taipo dong


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still pretty BS


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[02-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's like nothing to stop you disabling it


[02-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC you can't even technically be punished for disabling it


[02-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the manufacturer just has to hav it enabled


[02-Apr-19 08:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why make it stop working above an altitude


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is so GPS isn't used on enemy missiles


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that American satellites aren't helping Iran nuke us etc.


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
in practice tho


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's clientside security


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clientside security will never, ever stop a nationstate.


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll just get GLONASS if the US ever complains.


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran can indeed use our own sats to guide their nukes.


[02-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, GLONASS.


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's wishful thinking on the part of congress to think we can stop them.


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They'd be crazy to try and nuke us though


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The retribution would delete Iran from the planet


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a while, there was fuzzing in the location data


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You only got accurate location if you could decrypt with military keys


[02-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
you could theoretically make a GPS analogue that works anywhere in the solar system based off of pulsars lightyears away


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
people in the US just built things to figure out the last 200m anyways


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-00478-8

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NASA test proves pulsars can function as a celestial GPS
Experiment shows how spacecraft could use stellar signals to navigate in deep space without human instruction.
https://media.nature.com/lw1024/magazine-assets/d41586-018-00478-8/d41586-018-00478-8_15357458.jpg


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
using known locations with GPS receivers


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
not theoretically


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
it's been proven actually


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if it works on earth though


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Fortunately rockets are tough just by physics alone so even nation-states have a hard time putting them together


[02-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't hav high precision, Crow


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
iran has said they want to nuke israel though


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, took 'em long enuff


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
israel has nukes though


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
this has been an idea for decades


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
that article was from back in 2018


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
january 2018


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek: *Enterprise* had the Borg using it


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Enterprise*


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The shitty one


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
that rarely ever got the science right


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In like 2005


[02-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Voyager was shittier imo


[02-Apr-19 08:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What countries have nukes rn


[02-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Like 8


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Honahue#0656
India, Pakistan, NK, Russia, France, UK, Us, China


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
US, UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
NK is a maybe


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Honahue#0656
They've got nuccs


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wait why'd you bring up Iran and Israel then


[02-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've got nuclear devices, but actual capable missiles is less clear.


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran wants nukes


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
They have the Taipo dong and and a satellite


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're doing nuclear reactors and space launches


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both of which are going poorly


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
very poorly.


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel just hates Iran


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Tehy do suck


[02-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and relies on the US to protect it.


[02-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
But NK and Iran repurpose SAM into space rockets


[02-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Which is kinda neat


[02-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Surface to Air to Space, a logical extension.


[02-Apr-19 08:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Just removing the horizontal velocity component, probably


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh...no


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
They were probably meant to reach a U2 and that's only a little less than space


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need horizontal velocity in reaching orbit


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point is horizontal velocity


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oops


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
vertical velocity is completely irrelevant


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Those are sounding rockets


[02-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we didn't hav all this damn air around, we would launch things sideways off mountains pretty much


[02-Apr-19 08:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"this damn air"


[02-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Air is only convenient for rokketry when going down.


[02-Apr-19 08:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah I know, drag


[02-Apr-19 08:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But we gotta breathe, man


[02-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Or if you can use it as oxidizer for a bit


[02-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Which is still a ways off


[02-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
antigrav missiles when


[02-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
When the em drive works


[02-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
EM drive means you can nuke the planet with a solar panel with an engine on it


[02-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
nuke it to the level of "kill the dinosaurs"


[02-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Honahue#0656
We only just found the Higgs as far as fundamental forces go we're still at the Jefferson flying a kite stage of science


[02-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
too bad no one's looking into the EM drive anymore, wonder if they checked the specific molecular configuration of the setup


[02-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
they all but confirmed it was some unknown interference


[02-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not unknown


[02-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
"the copper had a small tritium impurity which provided the thruat'


[02-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was an electrical interaction with the wires powering it


[02-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, they forgot mutual induction's a thing


[02-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Lol


[02-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause probably they had no electrical engineers on their team beyond the guy who did the wiring


[02-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of a problem when teams aren't very intedisciplinary and exploring radical stuff.


[02-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Honahue#0656
A physicist would know those things too


[02-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Honahue#0656
But maybe not his first thoughts


[02-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
it's too bad there doesn't seem to be much interdisciplinary interest in new thrusters


[02-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's mostly just specialized stuff


[02-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's tons of interest in new thrusters


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
VASIMIR is still coming


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
as is SABRE


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Raptor


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Curie


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main problem is NASA is being forced to reuse old ones.


[02-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because some people in Alabama need to keep their jobs etc.


[02-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Well we already know the ideal working fluid for a rocket it's just heating pure hydrogen usually involves chemistry and then there's how dangerous do you want the exhaust to be and we're pretty much at that limit


[02-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe helium but if you have chemistry that can make that you're beyond rocketry


[02-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://earthsky.org/space/rocket-thrust-quantized-inertia-qi-darpa-funding

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A new way to launch rockets without fuel? | EarthSky.org
Conventional rockets - with their onboard fuel - are expensive and dangerous. A new
https://en.es-static.us/upl/2018/09/103334071-Page_1_SLS_In_Flight.1910x1000-300x157.jpg


[02-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
> But what if rockets no longer needed fuel for propulsion? The amazing theory of quantized inertia (QI) proposes just that scenario. The concept is relatively simple. You just need to convert Unruh radiation – a theorized form of quantum particles – into thrust. This week (September 17, 2018), the University of Plymouth in the U.K. announced  that one of its researchers has received U.S. government funding to explore this idea.


[02-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
>The controversial but fascinating proposal comes from physicist Mike McCulloch. He first proposed the idea way back in 2007, but now the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) – an agency of the U.S. Department of Defense – is getting involved, granting $1.3 million towards a four-year study into the concept. The research is being funded through DARPA’s Nascent Light-Matter Interactions program, whose stated purpose is to improve fundamental understanding of how to control the interaction of light and engineered materials.


[02-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
the new EmDrive


[02-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Sounds like space magic


[02-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Like subspace in Trek


[02-Apr-19 09:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Have we seen or observed Unruh radiation at all yet tho


[02-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Vague hints I think


[02-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect

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The Unruh effect (or sometimes Fulling–Davies–Unruh effect) is the prediction that an accelerating observer will observe blackbody radiation where an inertial observer would observe none. In other words, the background appears to be warm from an accelerating reference fra...


[02-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a tiny amount of energy to notice though


[02-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr nothing confirmed


[02-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Easily obscured by noise


[02-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
the effect itself isn't disputed, only whether there's radiation


[02-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
But 1.3mil isn't going to get a rocket from an effect we aren't even sure is real


[02-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
It might pay for an experiment to see if the effect is real though


[02-Apr-19 09:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think that's the point for now


[02-Apr-19 09:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's just a study into the concept


[02-Apr-19 09:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Rather than actually making the rocket


[02-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
the point is to find a thruster that only uses electricity to generate thrust


[02-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
which was what I was originally talking about


[02-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's very likely possible, going by recent engineering feats of making quantum effects macroscopic


[02-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Ah, yeah that'd be nice potentially usable around planets with magnet fields


[02-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
we just need to find the right material and molecular structure to harness it


[02-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's very much going to take an interdisciplinary effort to make it though


[02-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
going heavily into materials science


[02-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Unless you mean something else the slit experiment is a macroscopic quantum effect


[02-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
I linked an article about it a few weeks ago


[02-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
I think it was some sort of paint


[02-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.rh.gatech.edu/news/616388/brilliant-glow-paint-semiconductors-comes-ornate-quantum-physics

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Brilliant Glow of Paint-On Semiconductors Comes from Ornate Quantu...
A new revolution in semiconductors could transform lighting and solar energy, and this is what their crazy physics look like.


[02-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
this thing


[02-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Honahue#0656
You can do some neat tricks with polarized lenw too


[02-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
"Comparing the quantum properties of these emerging so-called hybrid semiconductors with those of their established predecessors is about like comparing the Bolshoi Ballet to jumping jacks. Twirling troupes of quantum particles undulate through the emerging materials, creating, with ease, highly desirable optoelectronic (light-electronic) properties, according to a team of physical chemists led by researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology."


[02-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Honahue#0656
But yeah mostly cool not especially useful tmk


[02-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest part is just proving you can scale up quantum effects to the point they're useful by using crazy molecular structures that weren't even conceivable 5 years ago


[02-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
there's an AI churning out new materials from random molecular structures on a weekly basis when it used to take months to successfully develop a new one that works


[02-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2019/03/07/semiconductors-go-quantum/

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When Semiconductors Stick Together, Materials Go Quantum
A team of researchers led by Berkeley Lab has developed a method that could turn ordinary semiconducting materials into quantum devices.
https://newscenter.lbl.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/03/wang_figure1-1200x763.jpg


[02-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2018/december/new-megalibrary-approach-proves-useful-for-the-rapid-discovery-of-new-materials

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New megalibrary approach proves useful for the rapid discovery of ...
Novel discovery tool is a potential game changer in the development of new technologies
https://news.northwestern.edu/assets/Stories/2018/12/_resampled/ScaleWidthWyI0ODAiXQ/discovery-tool-web.jpg


[02-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think that's quite the right one


[02-Apr-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, this is it https://engineering.tamu.edu/news/2019/03/from-decades-to-days-x-grants-program-funds-new-discovery.html

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From decades to days: X-Grants program funds new discovery
Materials discovery and artificial intelligence-powered manufacturing are the focus of an interdisciplinary project funded through the Texas A&M University X-Grants program.
https://engineering.tamu.edu/news/2019/03/_news-images/ISEN-news-X-Grant-7March2019.jpg


[02-Apr-19 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
>Creating new materials involves conducting tedious experiments that take decades of work. Soon artificial intelligence (AI) may be used to find the exact materials needed for any situation, resulting in less material waste and increased progress in developing future products, the vast majority of which will use materials that are yet to be discovered.


[02-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
>“It is an interdisciplinary problem,” Kumar said. “Without a multidisciplinary initiative of this sort, I would not normally have been involved in a research project with materials scientists. Researchers from diverse backgrounds are coming together and sitting at a table. From a Texas A&M point of view, we have a fantastic team and we’re ready to try to create a breakthrough.”


[02-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
this is how we will get a resonance drive


[02-Apr-19 10:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is the Unruh effect Marxist-Leninist-Maoism Third Worldist related?


[02-Apr-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/04/ftc-confirms-isps-can-block-and-throttle-as-long-as-they-disclose-it

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FTC gives ISPs green light to block applications as long as they d...
Despite Ajit Pai's assurances, FTC can't fully police net neutrality.
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[02-Apr-19 03:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸


[02-Apr-19 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/supreme-court-neil-gorsuch-eighth-amendment-death-penalty-torture.html

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/supreme-court-neil-gorsuch-eighth-amendment-death-penalty-torture.html
The Supreme Court’s Conservatives Just Legalized Torture
Criminal justice reformers must now wait for the other shoe to drop.
https://compote.slate.com/images/c6053f67-fd58-42a3-a03c-492e99fe444c.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=1448x965&offset=0x0


[02-Apr-19 07:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not really though. I was hoping for something else.

`Russell Bucklew is a death row inmate in Missouri who suffers from a rare medical condition called cavernous hemangioma. Due to this disorder, his body is covered with tumors filled with blood vessels. Tumors in Bucklew’s neck and throat, his lips and uvula, which make it difficult for him to breathe. They are highly sensitive and frequently squirt blood. A medical expert, Dr. Joel Zivot, has testified that if Missouri administers a lethal injection to Bucklew, he will die a slow, agonizing death. His tumors will rupture and fill his mouth with blood, and he will suffocate to death in unbearable pain, choking and convulsing on the gurney as he dies.`


[02-Apr-19 07:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like officially including  death by sawing as an option.


[02-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3qjH7pFq_0

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LegalEagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3qjH7pFq_0
Mueller Report: The 9 Things That Don't Make Sense About the Barr ...
Four pages summarizing the Mueller Report, signifying nothing? The first 500 Legal Eagles will get 2 months of unlimited learning on Skillshare for FREE: htt...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t3qjH7pFq_0/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Apr-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just trust him totally


[02-Apr-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how the dude read through 400 pages in one evening


[02-Apr-19 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Must've had some hella speed


[02-Apr-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's law school: you totally read those 100 pages for the reading today


[02-Apr-19 09:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1113164899251830786?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1113164899251830786?s=21
Today, we celebrate the tremendous accomplishments of Americans with ASD and reaffirm our commitment to work together to ensure that every member of our society is afforded equal opportunities to reach their full potential.
#WorldAutismAwarenessDay https://t.co/JQbJ2TGA3P
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[02-Apr-19 10:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://mobile.twitter.com/thisislucio/status/1112637637582602241

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[02-Apr-19 10:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.5079615/posh-dome-restaurant-opens-under-toronto-expressway-weeks-after-nearby-homeless-camp-eviction-1.5079628

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Posh dome restaurant opens under Toronto expressway weeks after ne...
The city tore down a homeless encampment at another location under the Gardiner in March.
https://i.cbc.ca/1.5080027.1554144721!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/dinner-with-a-view.JPG


[02-Apr-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know until we cut healthcare anyway


[02-Apr-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.daijiworld.com/news/newsDisplay.aspx?newsID=573745

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https://www.daijiworld.com/news/newsDisplay.aspx?newsID=573745
India gets anti-satellite capability to become space superpower: P...
http://www.tvdaijiworld.com/images6/asha_27319_indsprpwr.jpg


[02-Apr-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here coems india ready to kill us all by blowing up satelites and causing a keplar cascade, wooo


[02-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Finally


[02-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Honahue#0656
Maybe if we can't get into space we'll realize we have to fix the Earth


[02-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Honahue#0656
~~we won't~~


[02-Apr-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just do the moon base thing?


[02-Apr-19 11:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Not if keplar cascade


[02-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
(not to be that guy but the term you're looking for is "kessler syndrome")


[02-Apr-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinkign instead of keplar cascade


[02-Apr-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kessler syndrome?


[02-Apr-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyway, india is playing with anti sat weaponry to make themselves look bigger and it might take us all in the process


[02-Apr-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also, never support autism speaks. They are the worst monsters in terms of autism charities. the peta of autism


[02-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's not keplar


[02-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
it's kessler


[02-Apr-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well fair enough


[02-Apr-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/tvVSY7e.jpg

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https://imgur.com/tvVSY7e
How to remove a corrupt, immoral president
https://i.imgur.com/tvVSY7e.jpg


[02-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The real conspiracy was in our hearts all along


[02-Apr-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
(*results may vary depending on election security and voter suppression)


[02-Apr-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Apr-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/woman-arrested-after-entering-mar-a-lago-allegedly-with-malware-11554241458

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Woman Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago, Allegedly With Malware
A woman carrying two Chinese passports was arrested and charged with unlawfully entering President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort with a thumb drive containing malware and lying to federal agents about her plans, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.
https://images.wsj.net/im-64162/social


[03-Apr-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't Autism Speaks the one that supported anti-vax at some point?


[03-Apr-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know but their ads make autistic children look liek burden zombies


[03-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how anti-vax sees autism.


[03-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, autism makes people way less vocal, so "speaks" is the absolute worst wording.


[03-Apr-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their research also isnt about betterign autism it;s about preventing it, which is basically only done via abortion


[03-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like naming a charity Retardation Thinks


[03-Apr-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also dont let the autistic people speak


[03-Apr-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their board of directors has no autistic person on it which is rare for an awareness charity


[03-Apr-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and while their ads usually feature an autistic child int hem they never get a turn to speak


[03-Apr-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[03-Apr-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this comment also applies to the home for mom ads but that's a different case entirely


[03-Apr-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they usually feature an elderly woman in them while they talk about retirement homes, but the elderly woman never speaks


[03-Apr-19 12:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Epi-eugenics


[03-Apr-19 12:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://boingboing.net/2019/04/02/google-and-youtube-executives.html

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Xeni Jardin
https://boingboing.net/2019/04/02/google-and-youtube-executives.html
Google and YouTube executives ignored warnings on toxic video cont...
Google and YouTube executives ignored warnings on toxic video content, now we're all paying the price
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/youtube-newsletter.jpg


[03-Apr-19 12:50 AM] illumnious#7938
Off topic but worth reading it


[03-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why did you post the same thing 3 times


[03-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
4 now


[03-Apr-19 12:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOn_SGVClA&t=0s

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NonCompete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOn_SGVClA&t=0s
Why You Should Give Up Sex and Devote Your Life to Capitalism
the title says it all
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XBOn_SGVClA/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Apr-19 12:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh he's glitching


[03-Apr-19 12:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I can't tell if


[03-Apr-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Discord~


[03-Apr-19 12:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
his internet is just really bad


[03-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
goddamnit discord


[03-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
does illumnious know that this is happening


[03-Apr-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Just cleaned it up


[03-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
👌


[03-Apr-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 another series of posts


[03-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmcpiM3SSOA/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised that no one's making any memes of william joseph blazkowicz from wolfenstein


[03-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest nazi killer in gaming history


[03-Apr-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ28IOhU_Bk

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The Atlantic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ28IOhU_Bk
Death-Cap Mushrooms Are Terrifying and Unstoppable
Most poisonous mushrooms won’t kill you—they’ll simply cause a severe headache or vomiting. Death-cap mushrooms are not like the others. As little as half an...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jQ28IOhU_Bk/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
literally single-handedly mowing down armies of nazis everywhere he goes


[03-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
this is politics?


[03-Apr-19 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everything is politics


[03-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
no u


[03-Apr-19 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
@IAmADeliciousPotato data problems and I didn’t realized that


[03-Apr-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've never heard of the guy


[03-Apr-19 01:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I see


[03-Apr-19 01:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's been fixed now, dw


[03-Apr-19 01:01 AM] illumnious#7938
Alright


[03-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder why police have abandoned the tried and true polearm for quelling riots


[03-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
just without the sharp, pointy end


[03-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
it's always little tiny batons with shields when they aren't specifically out there to shoot protesters


[03-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
>From 1970 to 1975, the British military fired off 55,000 rounds of 5.9-inch (15-centimeter) rubber bullets in Northern Ireland, reportedly killing 13 people at a death rate of 1 in 18,000 rounds and resulting in a severe injury rate of 1 in 800.


[03-Apr-19 01:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Never mind the actual bullets.


[03-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
rubber bullets seem like the most effective way to quell a riot without just killing them all


[03-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.seeker.com/can-rubber-bullets-kill-you-1765368678.html

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https://www.seeker.com/can-rubber-bullets-kill-you-1765368678.html
Can Rubber Bullets Kill You?
So-called nonlethal weapons can be lethal.
https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2380501/size/tmg-slideshow_l.jpg


[03-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
most of the serious injuries and death from rubber bullets is using them improperly


[03-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
"improperly" meaning "at close ranges like in actual riots sometimes"


[03-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you hav to hit people in the legs, basically


[03-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's hard to do


[03-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and goes counter to training for all other weapons


[03-Apr-19 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There are still cases ongoing about the brits shooting people in the head with rubber bullets back then. One was a kid. back in the RUC police days.


[03-Apr-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now trump is saying something about holding the border hostage for a deal with congress. I'm confused


[03-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some terrorists win the electoral college.


[03-Apr-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/bacf13c909c24f6bb3b7bdc1d4b3f5df

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https://www.apnews.com/bacf13c909c24f6bb3b7bdc1d4b3f5df
Trump eases up on border shutdown threat
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump eased up Tuesday on his threats to shut the southern border this week as officials across his administration explored half-measures that might satisfy the...
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[03-Apr-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
While Trump on Tuesday did not back off the idea completely, he said he was pleased with steps Mexico had taken in recent days and renewed his calls for Congress to make changes he contends would solve the problem.

“Let’s see if they keep it done,” he said of Mexico. “Now, if they don’t, or if we don’t make a deal with Congress, the border’s going to be closed, 100%.” He also said that he might only close “large sections of the border” and “not all of it.” He added that his posturing was “the only way we’re getting a response.”


[03-Apr-19 03:10 AM] moonatik#3676
uhh


[03-Apr-19 03:10 AM] moonatik#3676
is the trump-russia conspiracy theory finally dead now?


[03-Apr-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one has read the three-hundred page Mueller report.


[03-Apr-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it won't die until it's publically released.


[03-Apr-19 03:11 AM] moonatik#3676
mueller himself has said there's no evidence of collusion


[03-Apr-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ironically Russiagaters and Q-tards want the report released because they believe it'll confirm their thoughts.


[03-Apr-19 03:12 AM] moonatik#3676
I want it released for the sake of transparency


[03-Apr-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile I just want it released so we have the actuall facts isntead of a sketchy letter to go on


[03-Apr-19 03:12 AM] moonatik#3676
but based on what's already been said and done I'm pretty sure there's nothing


[03-Apr-19 03:12 AM] moonatik#3676
we do have actual facts tho


[03-Apr-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Given also there are people shouting about how the lack of found evidence doesn't meant it hasn't happened. They just have to dig deeper.


[03-Apr-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
But this over looks the still dozens of other things Trump has done that's impeachable that we could have found evidence for if the focus was on those.


[03-Apr-19 03:13 AM] moonatik#3676
>no evidence, as said by mueller
>no more indictments on this issue
>trumps actual policies have damaged russia


[03-Apr-19 03:13 AM] moonatik#3676
all this seems to indicate the opposite


[03-Apr-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
TrumpU, he never separating himself from his businesses, general corruption charges.


[03-Apr-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the meuller report is done though so I guess we shift focus tot he other some odd 17 investigations going on right now


[03-Apr-19 03:14 AM] moonatik#3676
the real trump collusion story is with big pharma, saudi, israel, and a multitude of other shady shit


[03-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
@moonatik I'm merely repeating what I've heard from the Russia-gate crowd.


[03-Apr-19 03:14 AM] moonatik#3676
ok


[03-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
So no, given what they're hemming about it'd not dead. Not in a firm meaning of the word. It'll still linger.


[03-Apr-19 03:15 AM] moonatik#3676
trump has done impeachable stuff such as violating the emoluments clause


[03-Apr-19 03:15 AM] moonatik#3676
but nothing relating to russia


[03-Apr-19 03:15 AM] moonatik#3676
actually he has done something unconstitutional related to russia


[03-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
I thought the summary said that collusion wasn't ruled out


[03-Apr-19 03:16 AM] moonatik#3676
he attacked and occupied russia's ally, syria, without congressional approval


[03-Apr-19 03:16 AM] moonatik#3676
pretty sure putin doesn't want that lol


[03-Apr-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump does a lot of contradictory stuff


[03-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
troops were already on the ground in syria before trump came into office


[03-Apr-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The general idea I get from the crowd is they're holding out about something that hasn't been actually found yet. Like there's still something there but it got hidden away. And maybe Mueller found it, or maybe he didn't. But they're calling for the three-hundred page document to confirm it.


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] moonatik#3676
he's also trying to axe an oil deal between russia and germany


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] moonatik#3676
he's sent warships to the black sea


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then it's going to be redacted, which means someone'll probably assume something redacted is Russian


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, that's oil america wants


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] moonatik#3676
he's sent more troops to russia's border


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Never mind Trump has probably been firmer on Russia than Obama so the rationale doesn't line up.


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] moonatik#3676
generally done stuff that make russia unhappy


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why should russia give it germany whent hey coudl give it to america instead


[03-Apr-19 03:17 AM] moonatik#3676
no


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] moonatik#3676
that's


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] moonatik#3676
omg


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or was it the other way around


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Either way, I'm looking forward to burning to death in ten years given what's happening now.


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I havent seen news on this


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] moonatik#3676
trump wants to sell american oil to germany


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] moonatik#3676
instead of germany buying russian oil


[03-Apr-19 03:18 AM] moonatik#3676
russia desperately wants europe to be dependant on it for oil n gas


[03-Apr-19 03:19 AM] moonatik#3676
so what trump's doing damages putin's ability to exert influence over europe


[03-Apr-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is a very confusing doormat


[03-Apr-19 03:19 AM] moonatik#3676
and of course you haven't heard anything in the news because it goes against the Official Establishment Narrative(tm)


[03-Apr-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the what now?


[03-Apr-19 03:20 AM] moonatik#3676
same with a shitload of other issues


[03-Apr-19 03:20 AM] moonatik#3676
If trump was putins buddy then why is trump trying to overthrow putin's ally, maduro, in venezuela?


[03-Apr-19 03:20 AM] moonatik#3676
surely russia doesn't want that


[03-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure maduro only allied with russia to have some tiny chance of standing up against the US


[03-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
we went over why the US isn't really a fightable entity by any country in the world last night


[03-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
a single US carrier would demolish venezuela by itself


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] moonatik#3676
russia wants to be a superpower once more, so having an ally and a foothold in the US's hemisphere is very helpful to them


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] moonatik#3676
trump trying to overthrow that ally goes explicitly against what putin wants


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is they were banking on trump who is a great ally till he wants things and will quickly backstab you to get it


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's a new supercarrier class that construction was finished on which is, by itself, the 7th largest air force in the world


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
you don't fight that


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
you can't fight that


[03-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally impossible to fight that


[03-Apr-19 03:23 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah we know the US is really fuckin strong


[03-Apr-19 03:23 AM] moonatik#3676
they're the world's sole superpower


[03-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
and all of south america doesn't want the US intervening in venezuela because it always turns into a bloodbath when the US gets involved in south america


[03-Apr-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin also really wants soviet russia put back together which for all purpose likely wont happen the way he wants it to


[03-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
putin's soviet russia wouldn't even last a fraction of the time the original did


[03-Apr-19 03:24 AM] moonatik#3676
and it won't even be as memeable


[03-Apr-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he offers no benefits to joining it and keeps trying to take it by force which is jsut going to collapse in on itself


[03-Apr-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Join me or I kill you" is his current going offer and even that isn;t working


[03-Apr-19 03:27 AM] moonatik#3676
I wonder how the election in ukraine is gonna go


[03-Apr-19 03:27 AM] moonatik#3676
anyone know anything detailed about the comedian running? I only know a few surface level things and from what I know he seems alright


[03-Apr-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know much about ukranian politics


[03-Apr-19 03:28 AM] moonatik#3676
me neither


[03-Apr-19 03:29 AM] moonatik#3676
zelensky seems like ukraine's contribution to the anti-corruption populist wave going around the world


[03-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"no indictments"


[03-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller was disallowed to indict anyone


[03-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are serious red flags with how the report was ended and summarized.


[03-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal Eagle went over them in detail


[03-Apr-19 03:34 AM] moonatik#3676
mueller was quoted as saying that there's no evidence of collusion?


[03-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is not the case


[03-Apr-19 03:34 AM] moonatik#3676
if anything the entire trump presidency has been evidence of there not being collusion


[03-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
First off, collusion isn't a legal term and so Mueller would not use it in that context


[03-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second, Barr explicitly said that the report "does not exonerate" Trump


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is all highly unusual.


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] moonatik#3676
If the report summary was wrong, wouldn't mueller say something?


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please watch Legal Eagle's video, the guy is an actual lawyer.


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He may not be allowed to say anything


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would never be allowed to say anything.


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a legal matter.


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] moonatik#3676
the first amendment... exists


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the stuff in the report is very sensitive information


[03-Apr-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not with out reprucussions


[03-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and when you are in an actual office of the executive


[03-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are held to certain rules on what info you can release


[03-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The special counsel has a very, very particular role


[03-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is, the special counsel is a neutral third party to investigate the executive so that the executive can't make its own decisions on prosecution entirely


[03-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, it has been decided the president can't be indicted


[03-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in practice the special counsel now is under the the executive


[03-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr could've fired Mueller


[03-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This violates the very idea of it, but it's done for constitutional reasons


[03-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Barr actually published an unsolicited 19 page report at one point


[03-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
in which he said you cannot, ever, charge someone with obstruction without convicting them of an underlying offense


[03-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is, put simply, false.


[03-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The acting Attorney General, who summarized the Mueller Report, who had the finger on the button to fire the one writing the report, is someone who believes, literally, that the president is above the law and that you can obstruct justice as long as you don't get convicted of the original thing they were investigating you for.


[03-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
**We should not trust him**


[03-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the "president is above the law" thing


[03-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy literally has said


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that crimes like obstruction of justice


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
do not apply to the president unless the statute specifically says they do.


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is at odds with any interpretation of law come up with by any person ever in the history of law.


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
tbh this whole thing is in the same vein as hillary not being charged despite the officially released report saying she literally committed the crimes she was investigated for, but she shouldn't be charged because "she didn't mean it"


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it implies that because New York law on murder doesn't say "applies to the president too"


[03-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
in regards to the private email server


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the President can literally commit murder and not be charged with anything.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
and they aren't even fucking going after trump's daughter for having one too


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] moonatik#3676
tbh if we're not trusting barr I'm not trusting mueller either


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
even though they were all over hillary for having one


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not rational.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] moonatik#3676
he's one of the fuckers who lied us into iraq


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are real reasons to distrust Barr.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very relevant reasons on this matter.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] moonatik#3676
and there's real reasons to distrust mueller!


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr has very clear conflicts of interest and belief with the exact matter at question.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] moonatik#3676
lied. us. into. a. war.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
>Mueller knew, for instance, that Cheney's claims connecting 9/11 to Iraq were bogus yet he remained quiet.


[03-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's poisoning the well


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] moonatik#3676
just throwing it out there yo


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
remaining quiet is not the same as lying


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just throw it out there.


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Take responsibility for your statements.


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] moonatik#3676
https://youtu.be/uTDO-kuOGTQ

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https://youtu.be/uTDO-kuOGTQ
Robert Mueller on Iraq War and WMD's
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uTDO-kuOGTQ/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Apr-19 03:42 AM] moonatik#3676
if the debate has moved to questioning the integrity of the characters involved then I'm sure as hell throwing this in


[03-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the integrity of the character


[03-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
>secretary powell has presented evidence


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
that's what mueller said in that clip


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the fact that he has beliefs directly at odds with the existence of the report he is summarizing.


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
did he know the evidence was bogus?


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, when it comes to under oath stuff


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you answer *the question*


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't go off into a tangent and accuse the VP of lying


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
doing so gets you fired, permanently


[03-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if you say something untrue, like that the evidence presented was indeed true, to protect your job


[03-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
you later get charged with perjury


[03-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a fine line to walk working for the executive.


[03-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clapper crossed that line into perjury once


[03-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
btw, the whole "remaining quiet is the same as lying" thing is the exact same faulty logic the conservatives used to attack obama for supposedly knowing about the investigation into trump in 2016


[03-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Often times it is best to remain quiet


[03-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whistleblowing isn't something you can just *do* one day


[03-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a specific process you hav to follow or they throw you in jail like immediately.


[03-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Often they do not follow the law themselves and retaliate for even completely proper whistleblowing.


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller having been forced in the past to keep quiet about shady shit is not the same as him potentially falsifying a report.


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] moonatik#3676
I'm never said he falsified it?


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You implied it, take some damn responsibility.


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] moonatik#3676
I didn't even imply it


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes you did.


[03-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Period.


[03-Apr-19 03:48 AM] moonatik#3676
I never even implied he falsified it, I'm questioning his integrity as you are to barr


[03-Apr-19 03:49 AM] moonatik#3676
stop putting words in my mouth, thanks


[03-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am questioning Barr's beliefs and how they impact his job. He may hold those beliefs as completely true, and not be just there to shill.


[03-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You were questioning Mueller's integrity in regards to the report potentially being falsified.


[03-Apr-19 03:49 AM] moonatik#3676
as I am to mueller


[03-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller keeping quiet about something is not reason to doubt his ability to investigate crimes, nor the truthfulness of evidence while he does so.


[03-Apr-19 03:50 AM] moonatik#3676
trump ran a campaign that seemed **at the time** to be challenging to the deep state with some anti war rhetoric, so an investigation launched on these pretences is shady at best


[03-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr making outright false legal statements from an insane legal theory is perfect reason to doubt his ability to state with actual legal impact whether the report means the president broke the law.


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"deep state"


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
hooo booy


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] moonatik#3676
yes I'm using that term


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
they weren't even originally investigating trump specifically, just standard call tapping of russian agents contacting people in trump tower


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought you were against conspiracy theories


[03-Apr-19 03:51 AM] moonatik#3676
unfounded ones, yes


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That seems incredibly biased.


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very common among conspiracy theorists


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
to believe only their conspiracy has evidence.


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
To discount other conspiracies, but not their own.


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] moonatik#3676
I think all of US foreign policy post-WW2 and the entire history of the CIA constitutes evidence of a deep state


[03-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe you should listen to Legal Eagle


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the, you know, actual lawyer


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and his doubt about Barr's claims


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, don't take it from me


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] moonatik#3676
nice argument from authority


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the matter of law


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbh the "deep state" is hardly a founded conspiracy theory


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about authority


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about expertise


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trust the damn expert.


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Mikey#7286
Just like the illuminati etc


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deep state just sounds like illuminati with extra steps


[03-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] moonatik#3676
the CIA is a thing that exists?


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
you kinda need experts nowadays because everything is so advanced and complicated


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the CIA exists yes


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's illuminati but some kind of thing that only supports Obama somehow despite being tied to the executive


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is like


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] moonatik#3676
the military industrial complex exists?


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Bush is in power, deep state hates him


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
The Illuminati is a myth these days lol


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Obama is in power, deep state likes him


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
It existed at one point


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Trump is in power, deep state hates him


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] moonatik#3676
oh no the deep state adored bush


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
But not anymore


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then why does the deep state suddenly hate Trump?


[03-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump, who is making drone strikes less transparent


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's because there's a bunch more conspiracy theories being thrown in our faces nowadays


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] moonatik#3676
adored obama too, and is more than certainly loving *president* trump


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump, who is constantly crakking down on leaks


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Mikey#7286
It was nothing more than a sect like the kkk


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And throwing people out


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
the illuminati conspiracy can only really exist in a vacuum of conspiracy theories


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the deep state loves Trump


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
why is it behind the Mueller Report?


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] moonatik#3676
candidate trump =/= president trump


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wouldn't it hav stopped sooner?


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It went on for over half his presidency


[03-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
I think most deep state conspiracy theorists say that the deep state is against trump


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is the deep state for or agaisnt trump?


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can't have both


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
which doesn't make any sense because if they were against trump, and they had the power that the conspiracy theorists claim they do, trump wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the presidency


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] moonatik#3676
tfw the entire conversation has derailed because I used a shit term


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal Eagle


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
watch it


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] moonatik#3676
ohmygo


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Mikey#7286
Most conspiracy theories are b.s tbh


[03-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get some info from an expert


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to be clear


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal Eagle isn't saying there was conspiracy


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that Trump is in Putin's pokket


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] moonatik#3676
I was halfway through watching but it's kinda hard to focus on that as the conversation is going a million miles a minute?


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just goes over why the Summary is...fishy.


[03-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
k


[03-Apr-19 03:58 AM] moonatik#3676
and I agree that the summary is fishy, I know who barr is and what his relation to trump is


[03-Apr-19 03:58 AM] moonatik#3676
though mueller was quoted as saying (not barr speaking) that there was no evidence of collusion


[03-Apr-19 03:59 AM] moonatik#3676
he sure hasn't been exonerated for obstruction


[03-Apr-19 03:59 AM] moonatik#3676
but russian collusion has far more evidence against it than for it
to go over that again:
-he's also trying to axe an oil deal between russia and germany
-he's sent warships to the black sea
-he's attacked russian allies like syria and venezuela
-he's sent more troops to russia's border


[03-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought you were watching the vid


[03-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you now talking about this?


[03-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbh Mueller has more integrity in one finger than the majority of the current GOP


[03-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't Mueller a Republican?


[03-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho I suppose you could hav *negative* integrity.


[03-Apr-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a republican but I don;t think he's a current era republican if that makes any sense


[03-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
More McCain than McConnell etc.


[03-Apr-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah something like that


[03-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
I've heard that privately, he's pretty conservative


[03-Apr-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but I think he leaves his party at the door during investigations


[03-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's part of the legal profession.


[03-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
he's not a reactionary conservative


[03-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
those are really rare nowadays


[03-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can hate the gays or think immigrants should be murdered but if you say that in court the judge will disbar you.


[03-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when SCOTUS says gays are okay you say "okay" and you go and defend their marriages.


[03-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's somewhat similar to police where they will fight hard for the law to be enforced even when it hurts people and is irrational, except that they are a loooooot less pushy and so instead just grimace as the law grinds people to dust or enables things they don't like.


[03-Apr-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
heil


[03-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a lawyer truly believes something, they hav to restrict which clients they defend.


[03-Apr-19 04:08 AM] moonatik#3676
watched the thing


[03-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
(seriously, you get disbarred if your personal beliefs get in the way of being someone's attorney)


[03-Apr-19 04:09 AM] moonatik#3676
most of the questions asked attain to obstruction which isn't the issue at play, I acknowledge that's still open


[03-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Mueller's probably more of a pre-reagan Republican


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
One of my friends said he's a "RINO"


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
As in Republican in name only


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I suspect is actually going on with the report is it found in the ballpark of 75% chance Trump committed some form of conspiracy, and >90% obstruction. Not enuff for a conviction on either, tho on the latter, it would've probably been enuff with an interview.


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely in congress' hands.


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] moonatik#3676
though I'm pretty sure that mueller wouldn't end his investigation and and to recommend no more indictments if there's a bombshell in the report


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even once the whole thing comes out.


[03-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't indict Trump


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] moonatik#3676
I know


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] moonatik#3676
you can't indict a sitting president


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you couldn't recommend something that can't be done.


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why Barr saying no indictments means Trump's inno are, uh...suspect.


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] moonatik#3676
fairly certain trump will be indicted on financial crimes once he isn't president though


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh for sure


[03-Apr-19 04:11 AM] moonatik#3676
that's where the real meat is


[03-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Out of the presidency, New York could throw him in jail for a long, long time.


[03-Apr-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of shit thatls going to go down once trump elaves office


[03-Apr-19 04:12 AM] moonatik#3676
though I am worried that this whole mess increases the chance of this being delayed by another 4 years


[03-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, to refer on earlier argument


[03-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's actions in the presidency aren't evidence against conspiracy with Russia


[03-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the charge isn't conspiracy with Russia while president


[03-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conspiracy during candidacy


[03-Apr-19 04:13 AM] moonatik#3676
what evidence exists for *that* though?


[03-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's somewhat unclear


[03-Apr-19 04:13 AM] moonatik#3676
aside from a few dumb troll farms


[03-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the most likely thing that happened is that Trump conspired on getting the emails and on getting financial support


[03-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then once elected, realized he could slap Putin every now and then and Putin wouldn't do shit


[03-Apr-19 04:14 AM] moonatik#3676
I don't see a problem with the DNC email hack


[03-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The compromat alleged may still exist, and may be used to get favorable decisions on sanctions


[03-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Um, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah it's illegal


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's illegal to steal someone's FB password


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] moonatik#3676
but legality isn't morality


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or to conspire with Putin to do so


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
what


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're not talking about morality.


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] moonatik#3676
sometimes one supersedes the other


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about legality


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] moonatik#3676
oh yeah, legally wrong sure


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Trump conspired with Russia to violate the CFAA, then he is guilty of a conspiracy violation.


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] moonatik#3676
did he though?


[03-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hakking someone to get their emails is a clear CFAA violation


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He almost certainly did


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] moonatik#3676
how?


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
We know quite a bit about the meeting


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is we don't know all of what was said.


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] moonatik#3676
I seem to recall campaign rallies where he went out and publicly asked russia to hack the DNC


[03-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also possibly that Russia did the CFAA violation in advance, which is one of the big gotchas here


[03-Apr-19 04:17 AM] moonatik#3676
which either means he's the worst conspirator in the world or he just said that to get a reaction


[03-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Releasing the info isn't itself a crime unless there are, like, state secrets involved...which is arguable as to whethere there were


[03-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well


[03-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note something on his tweets


[03-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hardest thing to prove in obstruction cases is the mens rea


[03-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to *prove* beyond a reasonable doubt not just that someone obstructed justice


[03-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that they *intended* to do so


[03-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is very hard, cause people can plead the 5th or lie


[03-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and witnesses don't necessarily know intent unless it's yelled at them


[03-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's hearsay if Pence says Trump is the sort of guy to do it


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evidence is hearsay *by default* in court


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a hearsay exception on all evidence.


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut....


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
except when police say it lololololol


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump tweeted his intent


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
multiple times


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in different ways


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
we just need a police officer to be in on one of his meetings


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
and willing to testify against him


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump told the entire American public his mens rea


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, he did half the work an investigator would need to do to catch him on obstruction for them


[03-Apr-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other half is on Mueller


[03-Apr-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doing that is...the dumbest thing a criminal can do


[03-Apr-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like asking the police to help find your crakk


[03-Apr-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if anyone who is not the president, while under investigation, tweeted that they fired the lead investigator because they think the investigation is wrong


[03-Apr-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they would be in jail very, very, very fast


[03-Apr-19 04:21 AM] moonatik#3676
tweeting "go hack the DNC so I can win lol" is some garbage evidence imo


[03-Apr-19 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no but tweeting about locking up a witnesses father if they testify is a pretty good indication


[03-Apr-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
who the fuck says that to the world?


[03-Apr-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter if the investigation *is* wrong


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just say you fired the lead investigator cause you thought he was making the wrong decision on an investigation into you


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's textbook obstruction of justice.


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
who the fuck invites an enemy to just go and interfere with your country's election like that?


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Attorney General decides who to prosecute


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and according to him, the president cannot commit obstruction of justice


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
that's the sort of thing you joke about in private, not in front of billions of people


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and someone can only be charged with it if they are guilty of the underlying crime.


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] moonatik#3676
guiado does apparently lol


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] moonatik#3676
but thats another matter


[03-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, on obstruction of justice


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is pretty clearly guilty


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The AG just has explicitly stated he doesn't believe Trump can be charged with it.


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah I get that


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] moonatik#3676
obstruction n shit, go get gim


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, whole thing's a mess now.


[03-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's on Congress to actually enforce the law.


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] moonatik#3676
it's the russian conspiracy stuff I'm sure is false


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's false, I just think that there wasn't crystal clear evidence


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
I still don't understand why hillary was never indicted for breaking the law, even though I always call out conservatives for using it for whataboutism


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, you need 98% certainty to convict.


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
comey's report literally said she broke the law


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] moonatik#3676
elite favouritism


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
98% certainty is a LOT


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, on Hillary


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem is punishment scale


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] moonatik#3676
same reason why all the war criminals in the US govt today are walking free


[03-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
but she "didn't mean it"


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be a year-long trial and if she was found guilty


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
they would only fine her


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and giv her time served


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone would decry it as a huge waste of time and money.


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
the sort of thing she would be indicted for would be like tens of thousands of dollars at most


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
which is basically nothing to her


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be hundreds of thousands of dollars in court costs


[03-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
to fine her ten thousand dollars and giv her a month of probation


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, all of south america is basically screaming at the US to go away, and both republicans and democrats would say to stay out of venezuela but for different reasons (conservatives don't want to be involved in the world and liberals don't want to kill people)


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] moonatik#3676
lol


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nolle prosequi makes a lot of sense there.


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] moonatik#3676
>democrats don't want to kill people


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] moonatik#3676
>republicans don't want to be involved in the world


[03-Apr-19 04:26 AM] moonatik#3676
boi


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] moonatik#3676
ah better


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
trump literally ran on isolationism lol


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's a staple of conservatism


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] moonatik#3676
uh


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is about xenophobia


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't just mean isolation


[03-Apr-19 04:27 AM] moonatik#3676
he was simultaneously the most hawkish and least hawkish


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] moonatik#3676
he said he wanted to "bomb the shit out of" ISIS and kill the families of terrorists


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] moonatik#3676
real isolationist there


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism believes in fight or flight, basically


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You stab the monsters or run from them.


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Until they are dead.


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they are children.


[03-Apr-19 04:28 AM] moonatik#3676
elected dems and reps have no problem in illegal offensive foreign wars that kill civilians


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I wasn't talking about the terrorists


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism only favors isolationism when the fears are mostly of foreign influence.


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] moonatik#3676
plus the washington DC political spectrum is so narrow and insanely off to the right


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
he wanted to bomb the shit out of terrorists while simultaneously withdrawing from every other part of the world


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause dead terrorists are the best ROI


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
On political power.


[03-Apr-19 04:29 AM] moonatik#3676
he also said he wanted to take Iraq's oil


[03-Apr-19 04:30 AM] moonatik#3676
among other hawkish things


[03-Apr-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take everything for your country then retreat behind the line


[03-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much.


[03-Apr-19 04:31 AM] moonatik#3676
but yeah this does sort of tie back to what I was saying earlier


[03-Apr-19 04:32 AM] moonatik#3676
candidate trump's stances were very unfavourable to the intelligence community and they wouldn't want a president like either of his two faces


[03-Apr-19 04:32 AM] moonatik#3676
he'd either put an end to their shit or unintentionally rip the mask off of the empire and double down


[03-Apr-19 04:32 AM] moonatik#3676
and sadly, the latter happened


[03-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
that's pretty much the only good thing that came from trump being elected, a lot of back door shit is being revealed


[03-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
it would've stayed undercover with hillary


[03-Apr-19 04:34 AM] moonatik#3676
it also invigorated the left


[03-Apr-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
the problem now is that all the backdoor shit is basically being ignored by 30% of the country just because it hurts their god-king


[03-Apr-19 04:34 AM] moonatik#3676
if it was hillary we'd be stuck with her brand of liberalism in 2020 and likely 2024


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] moonatik#3676
but with trump it kinda encouraged leftists to start acting and doing stuff to resist


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] moonatik#3676
best case scenario we get a lefty in 2020


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary's brand was basically unchangeing status quo with a bit of warhawk thrown in for good measure


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] moonatik#3676
yea


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt we're getting another brand of liberalism tho


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
she wanted war with russia


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] moonatik#3676
*most likely bernie but I hope tulsi becomes president one day*


[03-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She didn't want war with Russia


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] moonatik#3676
yeahhh


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wanted containment of it in Syria


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
I don't like tulsi's policy of ignoring the war crimes in syria


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia would never go to war over a no fly zone in Syria


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] moonatik#3676
I hate hillary a lot but she doesn't want war with russia


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd just send troops on the ground.


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's game is very long term and relies on there *not* being war.


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
tulsi gabbard went really deep on denying the use of chlorine gas on bashar al-assad's behalf


[03-Apr-19 04:36 AM] moonatik#3676
tulsi isnt just "ignoring war crimes in syria"


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in war they're at a massive, massive industrial disadvantage.


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] moonatik#3676
it's not getting involved in this shit


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"not getting involved"


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're stepping all over the Geneva Conventions


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] moonatik#3676
when the US gets involved in foreign affairs like this it makes things worse


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
at the point that the US got involved, there was nothing to make worse


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We seemed to be able to hav some positive impact every time we got involved in Syria and its use of chemical weapons


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
all the infrastructure was already gone


[03-Apr-19 04:37 AM] moonatik#3676
no?


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first time, we reduced their stokkpiles


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the second and third times we got temporary reprieves


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] moonatik#3676
when the US bombs syria it acts as the airforce for jihadists


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the US actually reduced the use of the gas each time we bombed their stockpiles


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] moonatik#3676
and why the fuck would assad gas civilians in a town he had almost won?


[03-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he's a dictator


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes a statement


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think like Gul Dukat


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] moonatik#3676
he may be a tyrant but he's not an idiot


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
"A true victory is making your enemy feel they were wrong to oppose you."


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, apparently he is


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] moonatik#3676
he knows anything of this sort will encourage the US to get involved


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause there's very clear evidence of chlorine gas used on a routine basis


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] moonatik#3676
practically inviting the US to overthrow him


[03-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and of sarin gas used in certain high profile cases


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
with subsequent bombing of a hospital where people were being treated


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
except the US hasn't overthrown him


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
it would've done so by now if it actually cared that much


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's doing what he can get away with.


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Hillary would've accelerated Syria reaching its current state and probably would've had no legislative accomplishments by now


[03-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would just pass their tax bill anyway


[03-Apr-19 04:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1113269891207819264?s=21

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Twitter


[03-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left would be less excited, but nothing much would change other than we'd hav functioning executive agencies like the FCC and Dept. of State


[03-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Dept of Agriculture


[03-Apr-19 04:41 AM] moonatik#3676
the point tulsi makes about assad isn't that he's a good guy but that he's not the enemy of the US


[03-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also wouldn't be suffering from scarring of gov't expertise in NASA etc. from the shutdown


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
People that use chemical weapons on civilians should be the enemy of the US.


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when Russia is balls-deep in them


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Iran is in on the party


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] moonatik#3676
simply being a horrible dictator doesn't make someone an enemy of the US (considering the US backs 73% of the world's dictatorships)


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can't fight every dictatorship


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] moonatik#3676
an enemy is someone who poses an actual threat to the US


[03-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we should try on at least a few.


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] moonatik#3676
how'd that turn out for iraq and libya?


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is an actual threat to the US


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We spend more on the military than the next 9 countries combined.


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We rule the waves.


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the sky


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and space


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] moonatik#3676
libya has open slave markets for crying out loud


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
iraq collapsed because the US pulled out before actually building up any sort of infrastructure to help iraq heal


[03-Apr-19 04:43 AM] moonatik#3676
great job with removing that dictator


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any change leading to anarchy causes bad shit to happen for a while


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The important thing is to prop up an actually good replacement gov't


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's like performing open heart surgery and then not actually sewing up the body afterwards


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] moonatik#3676
the US shouldn't have even gotten involved in the first place imo


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
our lakk of involvement in Libya is part of the problem


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
leaving the incision to fester and grow ISIS


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Qaddafi would still hav died without our no fly zone


[03-Apr-19 04:44 AM] moonatik#3676
much of the time it's the US who commits the war crimes too


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not an excuse for isolationism


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should be holding people accountable, including ourselves.


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
the US doesn't commit war crimes on an organized, widespread scale either


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] moonatik#3676
if the nuremburg principles actually applied then every post WW2 president would be in prison


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And trying to actually improve the world.


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's a bunch of individual commanders on the ground making shitty decisions


[03-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Usually, some action is taken against them, as well.


[03-Apr-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
The military's thirst for drincc guarantees that assholes are perpetually being hired


[03-Apr-19 04:46 AM] moonatik#3676
the military industrial complex exists too


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
and america should focus on rebuilding itself before it does any more foreign nation building


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell congress to stop buying tanks.


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also building rokkets to nowhere


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
I'd love to


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lobbying is bad mmkay


[03-Apr-19 04:47 AM] moonatik#3676
lobbying is basically just a euphemism for bribery


[03-Apr-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
The GOP needs that money


[03-Apr-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
gay DC prostitutes are jacking up their prices


[03-Apr-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
and without them, how will mcconnell ever see anyone naked


[03-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
a supermajority of republicans take lobbyist bribes, something like 80%


[03-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
with the democrats, it's more around 50-60%


[03-Apr-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy that defeated Clinton's healthcare reform left the senate for a job in the healthcare industry.


[03-Apr-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's disturbing that Sicko is still relevant.


[03-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So few of the problems it pointed out hav been solved.


[03-Apr-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them also get offers to join major corporate boards ocne their career politics are over


[03-Apr-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
paul ryan for instance now works for the new FOX


[03-Apr-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is basically all the stuff disney didnt want


[03-Apr-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like fox news


[03-Apr-19 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Faux News


[03-Apr-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure if mcconnell ever didnt get re-elected he has several back up plans lined up in very lucrative businesses


[03-Apr-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provided he isn't found guilty of something first which may not effect him at all


[03-Apr-19 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would consider this required reading https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/4.1.2019%20Letter%20to%20William%20Barr%20%2B%20appendix.pdf


[03-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Honahue#0656
He's pretty old and has a government pension coming anyway so he could retire, or "retire" as a consultant


[03-Apr-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Has anyone read that thing (particularly the 4 points addressed after the signatures)? I'd love to know what other people think...'cause outside of this channel, the only people I've shared this with either agree entirely or dismissed it without reading because of who wrote it


[03-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/xenodochy

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xenodochy


[03-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
>    Bushmen, as a class, are a very hospitable race — generous in their sympathies, fond of practising the virtue of xenodochy, entertain strangers with a rough but ready welcome; and it is a pity to see men of this stamp tossed about as they are.


[03-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
why are natives always so welcoming and friendly to colonists


[03-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
and then the colonists fuck them over


[03-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Their weapons are weaker and their lands rich


[03-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/gorsuch-supreme-court-cruel-death-penalty-opinion-eighth-amendment-8ddde34133ac/

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Ian Millhiser
https://thinkprogress.org/gorsuch-supreme-court-cruel-death-penalty-opinion-eighth-amendment-8ddde34133ac/
Gorsuch just handed down the most bloodthirsty and cruel death pen...
The Supreme Court just tossed decades worth of Eighth Amendment law into the wastebasket.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-656544802.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1


[03-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/02/trump-mueller-report-1249947

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Trump changes tune on public release of Mueller report
Democrats say Trump’s hostility toward their efforts suggests he’s nervous about what Mueller found.
https://static.politico.com/20/b4/4a279e5b46ef81e3331e77513c3b/1942-william-barr-gty-773.jpg


[03-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
I bet barr briefed him on something that was found which is incredibly damaging


[03-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
especially since barr didn't even address one of the three conclusions of the investigation in his summary, only two of them


[03-Apr-19 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
it might not be impeachable, but it will definitely get him imprisoned after he gets out of office


[03-Apr-19 11:12 AM] moonatik#3676
https://youtu.be/_NIxWisz2Xw

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https://youtu.be/_NIxWisz2Xw
The Media Is Misleading The Public About The Mueller Report
Forty percent of respondents in a new poll said they don’t believe the summarized findings of special counsel Robert Mueller’s now-concluded investigation cl...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_NIxWisz2Xw/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Apr-19 11:13 AM] moonatik#3676
holy shit crow


[03-Apr-19 11:13 AM] moonatik#3676
that gorsuch story is fucked


[03-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, it spends a third of it's time on some damn poll numbers saying Americans don't think the report clears Trump apparently to say they're misled...when Barr explicitly said the report doen't exonorate Trump?


[03-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then launches into "obviously if Barr is misleading us, Mueller would say something"


[03-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is one of the most fukking ignorant things you can possibly say in regards to working for the executive branch and the legalities involved.


[03-Apr-19 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean sure, I'd like to liv in a world where if someone working for the White House stretches the truth or outright lies about something I put together for them, I could just grab a megaphone and lead an angry mob to burn down their house but like


[03-Apr-19 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't liv in that world


[03-Apr-19 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We liv in the world where James Clapper lied to congress and will never be punished for it


[03-Apr-19 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We liv in the world where a guy in the CIA went thru official whistleblowing channels and was promptly put under investigation so they could retroactively classify files on his computer to try to throw him in jail


[03-Apr-19 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw that actually violates one of the human rights explicitly enumerated by the UN


[03-Apr-19 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(you're not allowed to prosecute people for things that weren't offenses at the time they did them)


[03-Apr-19 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a very common thing with Conservatives to inherently believe the system is just and valid and exactly what they would want.


[03-Apr-19 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even when all evidence points to a corrupt system where people's hands are actually legally tied.


[03-Apr-19 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Mueller went on the evening news saying Barr is a fukking liar, he would very rapidly find himself in jail.


[03-Apr-19 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
that's not really even his style to begin with


[03-Apr-19 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[03-Apr-19 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he did that, it would discredit himself.


[03-Apr-19 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
he just documents all the shit and uses it as more evidence further down the line


[03-Apr-19 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller's legitimacy is derived from not acting out in public and quietly collecting things like a responsible adult.


[03-Apr-19 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
But to a lot of Conservatives, that just isn't a possibility


[03-Apr-19 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav the idea that you always rant and rave when something's wrong with how your work is treated


[03-Apr-19 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that nothing can stop you if you're right


[03-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
like I said last night, he's an endangered breed of non-reactionary conservative


[03-Apr-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e92c39a936e4483399ba49a70ec0f850

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'Obamacare' repeal off the table for GOP until after 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) — "Not any longer." And with that, a triumphant Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell appeared to close the book Tuesday on a divisive Republican debate, convincing...
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[03-Apr-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-father-fred-trump-born-germany-false-claim-new-york-city-nato-jens-stoltenberg-a8851946.html

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Donald Trump just claimed for fourth time that his father was born...
Fred Trump was born in New York city
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[03-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
obamacare is already gutted though


[03-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
not directly, but in most of the ways that mattered


[03-Apr-19 12:25 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Can't even have Obamacare


[03-Apr-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortuntely


[03-Apr-19 12:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Too poor lmao


[03-Apr-19 12:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Used to get it for free as a kid


[03-Apr-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant even hae medicaid


[03-Apr-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my state put age caps on that shit


[03-Apr-19 12:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
But sense I became an adult lol nope


[03-Apr-19 12:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Same


[03-Apr-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the insurance companies aren;t eating a nice money salad for lunch then the republican system has failed it seems


[03-Apr-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is getting his father mixed up with hsi grandfather which people are saying might be a warning sign of senility


[03-Apr-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/state/only-black-reporters-allowed-in-georgia-mayoral-race-event/85-cc745066-7fae-45d8-98f4-356978c5f5a4

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Only black reporters allowed in Georgia mayoral race event
The meeting was held to try to unite the city's black community behind a single candidate for mayor in the Nov. 5 election. Signs at the door said "Black Press Only!"
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[03-Apr-19 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
nothing wrong with that really


[03-Apr-19 02:39 PM] Deleted User#0000
That's racist


[03-Apr-19 02:40 PM] Deleted User#0000
Byte I bet you would call it racist if only white people were allowed


[03-Apr-19 02:40 PM] Deleted User#0000
Wouldn't you


[03-Apr-19 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
probably, but that's because white people have not been historically disadvantaged in this way.

the intent of a "blacks only" event is rarely to discuss how to oppress white men, and generally more about advancement of their own interests, which on its own is decidedly not racist... on the other hand, the intent of "whites only" events has historically been discussion of oppressing black men, which I would certainly consider to be racist


[03-Apr-19 05:32 PM] Arvid#8335
https://youtu.be/RNineSEoxjQ

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Why Tucker Carlson pretends to hate elites
Why would Tucker Carlson, who used to brag about being an “out-of-the-closet elitist,” use his primetime Fox News show to rail against the “ruling class?” Be...
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[03-Apr-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/02/us_border_patrol_search_demand_mozilla_cto/

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Ex-Mozilla CTO: US border cops demanded I unlock my phone, laptop ...
Techie says he was grilled for three hours after refusing to let agents search his devices
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[03-Apr-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine how much worse this would have been for him if he was brown


[03-Apr-19 06:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
1) He likely would have been killed.
2) ...Would this have even been reported on? If so, definitely not in the same tone.


[03-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he were brown, they would've kept the devices


[03-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apple would be *pissed*


[03-Apr-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav Tim Cook telling people not to travel to the US


[03-Apr-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it *is* racist to hold a blakks only section, even if the end goal isn't to suppress whites etc., because it enforces segregation that makes people see a difference and ruins a sense of togetherness.


[03-Apr-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's *way less* racist, but it still causes some trouble.


[03-Apr-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general, minority integration requires that empathetic majority members be able to tag along


[03-Apr-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and long-term, if you want to truly end racism


[03-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to nuke people even seeing a difference worth caring about between the races


[03-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That *requires* loss of the precious identities both sides hold dear.


[03-Apr-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause on just about anything, when it's an *identity*, people feel the need to differentiate.


[03-Apr-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to segregate.


[03-Apr-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The endgoal for gay rights has to be the day that somebody puts a gay couple in a movie and *not a single person says anything about the fact the couple was gay.* And it's much the same for other areas. We're slowly reaching that point with race.


[03-Apr-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hardly anybody talks about Star Wars 7 as being A New Hope, but the Luke equivalent is blakk etc.


[03-Apr-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1113155534184681473 in other news, Trump is mixing up words with a lot of pauses so he may actually be having some sort of mental health problem

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[03-Apr-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/mueller-report-subpoena-house.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/mueller-report-subpoena-house.html
Subpoena for Mueller Report and Documents Approved by House Judici...
The House Judiciary Committee, on a party-line vote, authorized its chairman to subpoena the Justice Department for the full Mueller report and all underlying evidence.
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[03-Apr-19 08:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AuzOL0wgnQ-aoyQQQhmqcaQ

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Trump's Facebook ads focus on Schumer, Pelosi and the border wall ...
Trump’s spending in early 2019 was more than the Democratic campaigns combined, but he has been outspent by some candidates in recent weeks.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQXV6T0wwd2duUS1hb3lRUVFobXFjYVEAMA


[03-Apr-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=75.6&d=62.8&g=72.7&s=78.8


[03-Apr-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got libertarian socialist


[03-Apr-19 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) google murray bookchin


[03-Apr-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
interesting last name


[03-Apr-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck poor people amirite https://i.redd.it/cz1orpcbw0q21.jpg

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[03-Apr-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quick while he;s yelling, grab some from the bottom and run!


[03-Apr-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They throw you in jail for life for that.


[03-Apr-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-says-i-will-be-much-more-mindful-after-women-s-accusations-11554318767

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Biden Says He Will Be ‘Much More Mindful’ of Personal Space Af...
Former Vice President Joe Biden said he will be “more mindful and respectful of people’s personal space,” addressing four women’s allegations that he touched them in unwelcome ways.
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[03-Apr-19 10:55 PM] moonatik#3676
post your political meme graph of choice

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[03-Apr-19 10:56 PM] moonatik#3676
pretty sure this whole channel are lefties but I wanna see where it falls


[03-Apr-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Apr-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Apr-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Apr-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
These are I should add: over a year old.


[03-Apr-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Obligatory Bookchin interview post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_jfS4Q-k30

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Murray Bookchin "Visions of a New Society" Interview 10/18/93
Author Murray Bookchin was interviewed by Doug Morris on October 18, 1993.
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[03-Apr-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When I take the Russian Revolution test for a third time

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[03-Apr-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/25ff42c9747043b3b80e098a0f90b1d5 trump said wind farm noise causes cancer

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump is tilting at wind farms again
WASHINGTON (AP) — Like another character named Don, President Donald Trump is tilting at windmills. The president disparaged wind farms this week while spinning his arm like a turbine and...
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[03-Apr-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TRUMP: “If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations. Your house just went down 75% of value. And they say the noise causes cancer.” — remarks at Republican fundraising dinner Tuesday.


[03-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So many movies where snipers kill presidents


[03-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump's still standing


[03-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fiction really is better than reality


[03-Apr-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why cant we just have at least an attempted sniping


[03-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh hell no


[03-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd be a sure 2020 win


[03-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to see brain matter splattering on Pence's face


[03-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then Pence's face splattering onto someone else


[03-Apr-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair point


[03-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmDVHs-juPo

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Windmills do not work that way!
Goodnight!
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[03-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"And they say the noise causes cancer"
THEN WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP REEEEEEeeeee


[04-Apr-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A controversial law in North Carolina, known as House Bill 819 (S.L. 2012-201), bans state and local agencies from basing its coastal policies on scientific models indicating an accelerating rise in sea level in favor of historical linear predictions. The law further mandates that the Coastal Resources Commission (CRC) and the Division of Coastal Management do not define sea-level change for regulatory purposes prior to July 1, 2016. Additionally, the law directs the CRC to refine its study no later than March 31, 2015 with a scope not to exceed 30 years


[04-Apr-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what even is my state


[04-Apr-19 12:34 AM] moonatik#3676
the republican party, everyone!


[04-Apr-19 12:35 AM] moonatik#3676
and some """""""""""""moderate""""""""""""" """""""""""""centrist""""""""""""" democrats too i guess


[04-Apr-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you scientists, we;re going to build people;s homes in flood zones and they;re going to like it!


[04-Apr-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27021893/trump-oval-office-get-rid-of-judges/

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We Had Another Presidential* Episode in the Oval Office Just Now
"I have to get rid of judges," Trump explained.
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[04-Apr-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is going on weirder rants now...


[04-Apr-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-outlaw-hurricanes-how-north-carolina-turned-its-back-climate-change-bill-hb-819-nc-20-florence

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North Carolina Literally Passed Laws Against Science on Sea-Level ...
History is a valuable teacher, but there are some topics it knows nothing about.
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[04-Apr-19 12:38 AM] moonatik#3676
saw this a while ago lol

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[04-Apr-19 12:39 AM] moonatik#3676
further update on the mess that is british politics https://twitter.com/ChrisWimpress/status/1113507516695105539

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The House of Commons printer has broken down so they can't print the Cooper Bill. So now MPs are not sure what they are now debating.
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[04-Apr-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
lol


[04-Apr-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Glad to see we're not the UK. Yet.


[04-Apr-19 12:42 AM] moonatik#3676
the one overwhelmingly good thing to come out of brexit is that people are actually starting to pay attention to parliament now


[04-Apr-19 12:42 AM] moonatik#3676
even if it's for the wrong reasons


[04-Apr-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
watching a disaster in motion is atleast a start


[04-Apr-19 12:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is what happens when the one side who wins by a narrow margin technically wins double the power of their vote by virtue of all non-voters technically siding with them by default.


[04-Apr-19 12:44 AM] moonatik#3676
our electoral system is totally fucked lol


[04-Apr-19 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly I think everyone's is. One question I've heard asked is: "Could there have been more options than Yes or No?"


[04-Apr-19 12:45 AM] moonatik#3676
in 2015 the tories got 36% of the vote and 51% of the seats in parliament (or essentially 100% of the control)


[04-Apr-19 12:45 AM] moonatik#3676
but it gets worse


[04-Apr-19 12:45 AM] moonatik#3676
in 2017 the tories got 42% of the vote but 49% of seats in parliament


[04-Apr-19 12:46 AM] moonatik#3676
so they increased their voters but lost representation in parliament somehow


[04-Apr-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Don't you love it when the system works.


[04-Apr-19 12:47 AM] moonatik#3676
i'm glad the tories are without a majority in a cynical party political sense but that's some shite excuse for democracy


[04-Apr-19 12:47 AM] moonatik#3676
also in 2015 UKIP got 13% of the national vote and only 1 seat in parliament


[04-Apr-19 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which reminds me, I learned a fun fact about Cuba about a couple months ago. At the time I heard it, Cuba was in the process if rewriting their constitution. And they didn't run it all in house either, it wasn't constructed by party leadership. They work shopped it with the people themselves through a series of effective town hall style meetings.


[04-Apr-19 12:48 AM] moonatik#3676
this sort of disenfranchisement for 'kippers more than likely helped brexit happen


[04-Apr-19 12:48 AM] moonatik#3676
cuba is weird


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think the case now is, "OK, we're two presidents past the Castro era. We have an old constitution: how are we going to update it? Let's ask the people."


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they did, and they collected feedback, and took it back to Havana.


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
cuba is pretty much the only example I've ever seen of a government having near absolute power that's slowly eroding its own power


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
And soon they'll do a referendum on it.


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Approval voting seems to be ok from what I can tell


[04-Apr-19 12:49 AM] moonatik#3676
there's a lot of misconceptions about cuba's politics (on the left and the right)


[04-Apr-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Most of the criticisms of it seem to be related to the fact that it favors moderates


[04-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
all previous examples turned out like north korea, the USSR, and china


[04-Apr-19 12:50 AM] moonatik#3676
most people you meet will recite the common "oh yeah it's a commie dictatorship" narrative, yet talk to someone on the left (i mean, the *actual* left) and they'll insist it's a wonderful democracy


[04-Apr-19 12:51 AM] moonatik#3676
neither of these are really true?


[04-Apr-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/1113571476291104773

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[04-Apr-19 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
In a surreal sort of way in this moment it may be more so than America, which has no current interest in even messing with the constitution in the smallest way possible.


[04-Apr-19 12:51 AM] moonatik#3676
there are some pretty strong calls for constitutional change in the US


[04-Apr-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile, the Cuban government has just pitched the whole idea of a new one to the people and they people said, "Yeah we want this... Keep this... Can we try this?"


[04-Apr-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Structurally we haven't touched constitutional provisions since the 60's or 70's. And those weren't all that major in comparison to previous ammendments.


[04-Apr-19 12:52 AM] moonatik#3676
wolf-pac and the recent calls for abolishing the EC are deadset on changing the US const.


[04-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
the downside of that is if someone who has no interest in the people  gets in power


[04-Apr-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
At the moment we seem to be flirting with it.


[04-Apr-19 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
But that's also probably just as minor as the last major ammendments.


[04-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
because if it's easy to change everything on a whim, you can go from a communist utopia to a totalitarian shithole in the span of a decade


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] moonatik#3676
i'm still kinda amazed the US has only amended it's constitution 18 times (if you count the bill of rights as 1 big change)


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
the bill of rights was included in the constitution


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] moonatik#3676
oh wow so even less


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was a day one document


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
The last amendment was lowering the voting age from 20-something to 18.


[04-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
literally the only thing keeping the US unique as a country compared to europe is the first amendment


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] moonatik#3676
uh


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
lol


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] moonatik#3676
wh


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] moonatik#3676
a *lot* more than that is keeping the US relevant


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
socially, I mean


[04-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
obviously there's the giant ass military and the huge ass GDP


[04-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
but socially, the only thing that keeps the US relevant is the first amendment


[04-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
I think a better word was unique


[04-Apr-19 12:56 AM] moonatik#3676
hot take GDP is a crap way of measuring the health of a nation and it's economy


[04-Apr-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's a hot take I believe in


[04-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
most people believe that, it's only that near-fanatical 20-30% who thinks that GDP > all


[04-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the only thing keeping the US socially unique from most countries in the EU is the first amendment


[04-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
like people can say all the stuff they want and not get put in jail for it


[04-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
you can be imprisoned and fined for talking about nazis in germany


[04-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
not even positively or negatively, just talking about them at all


[04-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
the same thing happened in scotland because a dude who taught his girlfriend's dog to put his paw up when he says nazi stuff (I forget what the exact phrase was)


[04-Apr-19 12:59 AM] moonatik#3676
"wanna gas the jheeus?"


[04-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
even though the whole thing was incredibly belittling of nazism


[04-Apr-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not really.


[04-Apr-19 01:00 AM] moonatik#3676
free speech is a principle that i can never see myself compromising on


[04-Apr-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
It didn't have any statement beyond, "Nazis lmao"


[04-Apr-19 01:00 AM] moonatik#3676
it wasn't meant to be a statement


[04-Apr-19 01:00 AM] moonatik#3676
just a daft edgy joke


[04-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was just a stupid ass "heil" joke


[04-Apr-19 01:01 AM] moonatik#3676
nobody should be arrested and fined for a daft edgy joke


[04-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
I never said it was a statement, I watched the video and thought it was mocking nazis


[04-Apr-19 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
They shouldn't. But they also shouldn't have to shield themselves behind Free Speech either.


[04-Apr-19 01:02 AM] moonatik#3676
what do you mean?


[04-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
free speech doesn't work when you put an asterisk on it


[04-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm not saying that hate speech should be protected either


[04-Apr-19 01:02 AM] moonatik#3676
nowhere has totally unrestricted speech, direct threats of violence and shouting "FIRE" in a crowd is pretty illegal everywhere i've looked at


[04-Apr-19 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
At a certain point edgy jokes become a sort of normalization. And if you're doing it for the sake of doing it without actual nuanced writing, then it being a non-thing can be in itself an advocacy for it.

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[04-Apr-19 01:03 AM] moonatik#3676
bruh


[04-Apr-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a thing in the absense of context really and can be taken over by anyone.


[04-Apr-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
As opposed to, I dunno. This Mitchell and Webb skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

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[04-Apr-19 01:04 AM] moonatik#3676
context matters and that's kinda the whole point?


[04-Apr-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes. But as I remember the whole fiasco there wasn't any. So it can be taken by anyone.


[04-Apr-19 01:05 AM] moonatik#3676
even still the person making the joke shouldn't be held responsible for anything some racist asshole does with a joke


[04-Apr-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
He did start it however. The creator though can make an effort to go about and remind people it is a bad thing; which from a creator stand point would have been best if it was added into the skit. A pug doing the Nazi salute may seem funny and cute in an edgy way, but the same thing can be recontextualized as endorsement. Where in if the skit was expanded to clarify intent to make the fact of a Roman saluting pug to make the ideology of Nazism and Fascism diminutive.


[04-Apr-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
IE, finding a bigger dog to include in a follow up shot in an Allied uniform.


[04-Apr-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The issue fundamentally falls into a zone of artistic critique.


[04-Apr-19 01:08 AM] moonatik#3676
who's fault is it if somebody massively misinterprets a stupid joke?


[04-Apr-19 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one and probably everyone. If they misinterpret the joke then one may have to consider what sort of lead up the person has or community they're in that would lead them to misinterpret the joke in the first place.


[04-Apr-19 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is it a lack of empathy on their part, failing their history lessons in school or even civic education. Or are they hanging out in already racist communities that would have lowered their guard enough in the first place before they got there.


[04-Apr-19 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's been a study talked about for a while now, that as weak and flawed as the commentators say about it all the same does a good job at least peeling back the blanket to show the web of inter-relationships shared by the alt-right and far-right community online. It's been read so far as to indicate - especially after Christchurch - that channels or content creators who don't or haven't done enough to distance themselves from fascism and other right-wing racists often attract those people and share the same viewership and community as others.


[04-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
basically, people should be allowed to say and do what they want without the government waiting for any little excuse to shit down their throats, up to the point that it doesn't actually affect other people beyond offending them ot whatever


[04-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
like saying someone can't buy a wedding cake for a gay marriage due to religious beliefs should be illegal, but complaining about making it the entire time shouldn't be illegal


[04-Apr-19 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
the gay cake stuff is the one LGBT issue where i feel on the fence


[04-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
someone should be able to spout their shitty nazi beliefs as much as they want as long as they realize that it opens them up to public ostracization and criticism, on top of possibly being fined if they're being overly pushy and aggressive with their shitty views


[04-Apr-19 01:17 AM] moonatik#3676
on every other issue i'm solidly for LGBT rights, but this one feels like a mess due to conflicting principles and inevitabilities and precedents and uGH


[04-Apr-19 01:18 AM] moonatik#3676
my instincts do tell me to support the guys (or gals) getting the cake over the bigot who wants to refuse service


[04-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that if you make it so that sellers can refuse to sell people things due to their opinions, it becomes an excuse in and of itself to start oppressing a group


[04-Apr-19 01:19 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah exactly


[04-Apr-19 01:20 AM] moonatik#3676
at the same time people should have a right to refuse service for whatever reason imo, but i think it does depend on the circumstances


[04-Apr-19 01:20 AM] moonatik#3676
if service is NEEDED, then fuck off, don't discriminate


[04-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
people should be able to say whatever they damn well please about how much they hate such and such group, but they should never be able to refuse public service to someone based on an opinion of that person's arbitrarily assigned box


[04-Apr-19 01:20 AM] moonatik#3676
if service is WANTED and alternatives exist, then don't give your money to the bigoted baker


[04-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
that's supposed to be how the free market works in theory, but it never works like that in practice


[04-Apr-19 01:21 AM] moonatik#3676
i know


[04-Apr-19 01:21 AM] moonatik#3676
that's why i say it can't be a blanket thing


[04-Apr-19 01:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is something that shows the extent of Free Speech as an absolute concept. If what you're saying is within the realm of minimized conflict with whatever exists; you're fine. But at a certain point you end up in territory where saying X also implies a subversion of someone's expression of Y. For instance, taking the personal position of refusing to bake someone a cake because they're gay necessarily restricts the gay party's capacity to be expressed as Gay. In much the same way being a Nazi and espousing Nazi ideology innately and naturally contains within it the germ of effective censorship - directly legal or otherwise - of subverting someone else's fundamental freedom to express and speak their own mind. Once you get to this point you reach Freedom of Speech's natural contradictions because any position will automatically censor the other and in a dialectical sense; one or the other will need to be silenced to progress anything really.


[04-Apr-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
So an alternative factor will need to be brought in to pass judgment to break the stalemate, recognizing free speech has been wholly negated in this instance. In a purely capitalist sense who has the most rights: the customers seeking a service, or the businessman owning a business? Can personal opinions be projected onto an exchange of services and money?


[04-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
I prefer both sides being able to scream at each other as much as they like without being able to actually injure and kill each other


[04-Apr-19 01:24 AM] moonatik#3676
^


[04-Apr-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or: can someone be forced to perform their labor for something they don't like.


[04-Apr-19 01:24 AM] moonatik#3676
^ too


[04-Apr-19 01:25 AM] moonatik#3676
as in, no, don't force people to use their labour for something they don't want


[04-Apr-19 01:25 AM] moonatik#3676
i'm not gonna be hyperbolic and claim it's LITERALLY SLAVERY if people have to bake gay cakes


[04-Apr-19 01:25 AM] moonatik#3676
because that's dumb


[04-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there can be such a thing as a "racism tax"


[04-Apr-19 01:26 AM] moonatik#3676
uH NO


[04-Apr-19 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
However in the same way, we have the gay/LGBT couple, who being a member of socially second-classed group hasn't ascended to a point of equality socially with everyone else, and their lack of services obtainable becomes an injury to their social and legal equality within the community. If they can be refused once without repercussion, how many more times can they be refused on the same grounds?


[04-Apr-19 01:27 AM] moonatik#3676
that's why i say it should be case by case


[04-Apr-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
As much as Marx gets shit on that's also a thing he's said too. You can't always apply rules universally all the time so you have to take them as they come.


[04-Apr-19 01:28 AM] moonatik#3676
if only one bakery exists within a reasonable area, or if the service is NEEDED, then you're gonna have to put your bigotry aside, mate


[04-Apr-19 01:29 AM] moonatik#3676
speaking of marx, i seem to remember a marxist professor (he prefers the label "marxian" for some reason) was studying economics and all he was instructed to research was stuff singing capitalism's praises


[04-Apr-19 01:30 AM] moonatik#3676
while ignoring marx who had basically written history's most influential criticisms of capitalsim


[04-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not all markets have multiple bakeries. But if a market has multiple bakeries and they're all owned by Mormons for instance because it's Salt Lake City, than ordaining that at least one or some of them serve LGBTQ clients can be seen as an attack against individual religious liberty.


[04-Apr-19 01:30 AM] moonatik#3676
he had to go out on his own to actually get a criticism of the system he's having to operate in


[04-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
You talking about Richard Wolff?


[04-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because that's Professor Wolff's story, basically.


[04-Apr-19 01:31 AM] moonatik#3676
yes


[04-Apr-19 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
He went to study in university and he had to take a single economics class, got bored as fuck so went to study history. And realized there was a relation between the two he was not getting and had to study that independently with some fellow students.


[04-Apr-19 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
his voice kinda reminds me of dennis prager


[04-Apr-19 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since at the time Marxism was effectively barred from academia because of the Cold War.


[04-Apr-19 01:32 AM] moonatik#3676
only richard isn't a lying propagandist


[04-Apr-19 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that the Economics and Buisiness Economics colleges of a university are separate and set opposite of one another across campus so no one has to interact with one another.


[04-Apr-19 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta like how Humanities students don't get to interact with the business students and when they do they're both alien to one another.


[04-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
why, is it because business economics don't necessarily make sense on a larger scale?


[04-Apr-19 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because buisiness economics is just to make more money and you could probably figure that out on your own.


[04-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's what I was thinking it sounded like


[04-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
business economics is just about maximizing profit


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where as mainstream economics is more of a systemic analysis but not necessarily useful for running a business these days.


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
while general economics is about overall economic health


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like just because you can make accurate models and projections don't mean you'll balance a budget right.


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
like from a business economics perspective, the US is in the greatest positions it's ever been in its history


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But that also American and western economic studies are mostly capitalist cheerleading.


[04-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
but from a social economics perspective, the US is in a much shittier position than it was 50 years ago


[04-Apr-19 01:36 AM] moonatik#3676
wasn't there jim crow ~50 years ago?


[04-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
not as bad as during the second industrial revolution, but still pretty down there


[04-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
talking about economics specifically, not overall social health


[04-Apr-19 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
@moonatik Economically we were better in the fifties in-so-far as whites go because we were in a period called the "Long Boom". Basically if you minded a candy store till you could buy a house because we were on the perpetual climb upwards.


[04-Apr-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Blacks still got the short end of the stick.


[04-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
it still cost an oceanload less money and time to just be able to afford housing and food back in the 60's than it does nowadays


[04-Apr-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Today a white family on average makes I think 69 times more than a black family and holds more value than a black family. It would have been worse back then, but we've by no means really healed that wound.


[04-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
like "poor whites" back 50 years ago would've been more akin to the lower middle class nowadays in terms of how much wealth they actually own


[04-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
and the reason why baby boomers are so hateful to begin with is that their working class jobs gave them an upper middle class life back in the 60's and 70's, but don't even exist today


[04-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
but instead of laying the blame at the feet of the giant corporations who took their jobs and moved them overseas, they blame the government and the younger generations


[04-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Most of the criticisms of it seem to be related to the fact that it favors moderates"


[04-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's sad that it's a criticism.


[04-Apr-19 01:43 AM] moonatik#3676
>when your political spectrum is so insanely off to the right that moderate is prejorative


[04-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's a criticism in europe too


[04-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[04-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about approval voting


[04-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the criticism that it favors moderates over both extremes


[04-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
what's approval voting exactly, you just vote for the people you like the most and the person with the most votes wins?


[04-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[04-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
seems easy to implement


[04-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[04-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But IRV is slightly cheaper to switch to


[04-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And still shoots Republicans in the head


[04-Apr-19 01:46 AM] moonatik#3676
egh


[04-Apr-19 01:46 AM] moonatik#3676
it's not that it favours moderates that's the problem, it's that it discourages third parties


[04-Apr-19 01:46 AM] moonatik#3676
and power is concentrated within two big parties


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
what, approval voting?


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] moonatik#3676
yea


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] moonatik#3676
we call it first past the post here


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
no, that's what we currently have


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
and we can only vote for one person


[04-Apr-19 01:47 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah, and it kinda sucks


[04-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
approval voting is that you can vote for all of the candidates or just one


[04-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
and whichever one gets the most votes wins


[04-Apr-19 01:48 AM] moonatik#3676
ohh


[04-Apr-19 01:49 AM] moonatik#3676
wouldn't ranked choice be better than approval?


[04-Apr-19 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is far easier to "game" ranked choice than approval


[04-Apr-19 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, you can artificially "bury" candidates you don't want to see, or conversely "boost" candidates that you don't actually support that much just to level the field for all candidates but your first choice


[04-Apr-19 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Compared to a simple like/dislike option where an individual check box next to a name does not, on its own, carry more than a binary weight


[04-Apr-19 01:53 AM] moonatik#3676
though ranked choice makes it clear which candiates are preferred over other ones


[04-Apr-19 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In a way, we kinda already have approval voting in some elections


[04-Apr-19 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if your area has this, but for stuff like school board etc. there's a list of candidates and it says "choose no more than 5" or something


[04-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's used locally


[04-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
but not on the national level or even state level I think


[04-Apr-19 01:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
I wouldn't call "Choose no more than five" for a school board to be ranked choice, since five candidates need to be elected for five positions. So you do it all at once. And not to pick an ascending or descending list of candidates you'd prefer to see in one sea.


[04-Apr-19 01:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, I said it was approval


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And some of these votes have, like, 7 candidates listed


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
School boar elections cover such a small area it'd be too ineffective to break down voting districts even more just for them.


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well that's the thing with local elections.


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
They're very easy to "win"


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Either because no one else steps up, or no one votes.


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My point is, the system is familiar to voters, or could be made familiar


[04-Apr-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a few instances where people have been elected on eleven of twelve votes or something.


[04-Apr-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've worked a few polls myself so I know what it's like on the other side of that table


[04-Apr-19 01:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One of the funniest (and saddest) things is seeing the write-in votes listed on the final tape


[04-Apr-19 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw I read somewhere that in Ferguson only eleven people voted in one election.


[04-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
that's a problem with cases where you're voting for multiple people to fill multiple positions, but those problems don't exist when you're voting for multiple people to fill just one position


[04-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
http://zesty.ca/voting/sim/


[04-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@moonatik IRV has one big, big problem


[04-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's say there are 90 candidates for the presidency


[04-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 of them, Bernie Sanders, is every single person's 2nd choice


[04-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, he loses.


[04-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I finally managed to find my old 8values thing I posted like 3 years ago in IRC https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=67.1&d=66.0&g=76.2&s=85.3


[04-Apr-19 02:00 AM] moonatik#3676
yeah i was gonna get to that


[04-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
however, I retook it a few hours ago and got this https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=76.8&d=67.6&g=72.7&s=81.3


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
I retook mine and I didn't change much from last year or whenever to now.


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Approval Voting takes the opposite approach.


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
tbh the difference is so small as to be indistinguishable, but it somehow pushed me over from social libertarianism to libertarian socialism


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything my economic axis became more extreme for equality


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
IRV solves later-no-harm


[04-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Approval refuses later-no-harm


[04-Apr-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I did however become more Anarchist than the last time I took the Russian Revolution politi-compass. The Kronstadt Rebels had all the right.

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[04-Apr-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronstadt_rebellion

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The Kronstadt rebellion or Kronstadt mutiny (Russian: Кронштадтское восстание, tr. Kronshtadtskoye vosstaniye) was a major unsuccessful uprising against the Bolsheviks in March 1921, during the later years of the Russian Civil War. Led by Stepan Petriche...
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[04-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow only major change I see is you apparently realized that the free market is a lie


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[04-Apr-19 02:05 AM] moonatik#3676
makhno more like CHAD


[04-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
the difference is:
Economic: 67.1% equality/32.9% markets to 76.8%/23.2%
Diplomatic: 34.0% nation/66.0% world to 32.4%/67.6%
Civil: 76.2% liberty/23.8% authority to 72.7%/27.3%
Societal: 14.7% tradition/85.3% progress to 18.7%/81.3%


[04-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that 9% jump away from markets is twice the other differences.


[04-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently I became more for economic equality but slightly less peaceful, a little less libertarian, and slightly more traditional?


[04-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=97.0&d=85.6&g=90.4&s=92.7


[04-Apr-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I feel like the diplomatic values are so similar as to be indistinguishable, but I'm not sure what to make of being slightly less for personal freedom and slightly more for tradition over progress


[04-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
is this what aging does to your brain?


[04-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[04-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
am I doomed to become another bitter, technologically illiterate old person?


[04-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh I don't like 8values' questions


[04-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're either super abstract or super duper concrete


[04-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It goes right from SHOULD TRADITION BE UPHELD to IS GAY MARRIAGE OKAY?


[04-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[04-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect you answered differently on one abstract question


[04-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I like my politiscales results the most http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m0=74&m1=5&b1=5&b0=69&t0=45&t1=24&s1=10&s0=67&p0=57&p1=19&j1=21&j0=48&e1=43&e0=33&c0=55&c1=21&femi=48&prag=100

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PolitiScales
Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
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[04-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that's the most accurate test I've taken


[04-Apr-19 02:12 AM] moonatik#3676
nice


[04-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, have you taken that one?


[04-Apr-19 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
These are my old results

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[04-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Litrojia#0612
That's a weird-ass flag


[04-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
they're procedurally generated based on your results


[04-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
@moonatik, I think I got the exact same 3 major letters as you did, just in a different order


[04-Apr-19 02:14 AM] moonatik#3676
epic


[04-Apr-19 02:14 AM] moonatik#3676
i dont know why so many of the flags have purple


[04-Apr-19 02:15 AM] moonatik#3676
purple's a monarchist colour


[04-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
you got "equality, humanity, socialism" with the pragmatic badge, while I got "humanity, socialism, equality", also with the pragmatic badge


[04-Apr-19 02:15 AM] moonatik#3676
and monarchism is shit (unless the monarch is Nightmare Moon)


[04-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457

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[04-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
wow, I'm almost as revolutionary as aaron lmao


[04-Apr-19 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
For meme's sake I'mma try to get through as much as PolitScales as I can before I go to work


[04-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure exactly what the criteria for the pragmatism badge is though


[04-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
it seems to mean just that I'll do literally anything as long as it's safe, effective, and doesn't infringe on the 3 major concerns


[04-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m1=5&m0=76&p1=19&p0=50&c0=45&femi=14&c1=38&t1=17&t0=50&j1=5&s0=71&j0=69&e0=40&e1=43&b0=71&b1=5

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[04-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
seems like the most common thing here is a heavy focus on regulationism


[04-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because America is being crushed by monopolies.


[04-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has become clear a lakk of regulation in capitalism is, long-term, very very bad.


[04-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
you're a lot bigger on both essentialism and rehabilitative justice, but the rest are pretty similar to mine


[04-Apr-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It is necessary to implement assemblies to ration our production to the consumers according to their needs."?


[04-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
politiscales is translated from french


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
so there's a lot of weirdly worded questions on it


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
FUCK


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
was filling it out for 5-10 minutes and accidentally closed the window


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
you can recover tabs and windows


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
not sure if it keeps the answers or not though


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
I opened it back up and it started asking questions I'd already answered


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
it didn't save progress


[04-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
rip


[04-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie "Humanity, Justice, Socialism" sounds like a state motto


[04-Apr-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Wage labour is a form of theft from the worker by companies." is this saying workers steal from employers or that employers steal from workers?


[04-Apr-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the second one


[04-Apr-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?c1=19&c0=33&femi=10&s0=71&s1=12&m1=5&m0=67&e0=43&e1=31&b1=17&b0=33&t0=29&t1=17&j0=40&j1=24&p0=29&p1=52&prag=100

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[04-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Litrojia#0612
needless to say I'm not finishing that quiz


[04-Apr-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to the surprise of no one I'm extremely progressive


[04-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
capitalist pig >:V


[04-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
>>>>>>>>:V


[04-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Litrojia#0612
nevermind fuck it I'm gonna try again


[04-Apr-19 02:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tempered by a heavy amount of regulation, ofc


[04-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I still don't get why it seems to think I'm so big on communism though


[04-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
The results of this quiz seem to be biased towards extremes like that


[04-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
by "communism vs capitalism", the test means "public ownership vs private ownership"


[04-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
and it seems to think that I'm more in favor of public ownership, when I'm more along the lines of every individual owning their own work


[04-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do people not get mad at worker owned companies


[04-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
you mean coops?


[04-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't that like one of the tenets of communism


[04-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That the workers own the means of production


[04-Apr-19 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've found that socialist ideas work best on the smallest scales


[04-Apr-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
V I V A

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[04-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, what are the two badges' descriptions?


[04-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
if you scroll down further, it'll say what the two badges are


[04-Apr-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Anarchism : When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."


[04-Apr-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Veganism : Human beings must stop at all costs the consumption and exploitation of “sensible” being."


[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
when did you take the previous one you linked?


[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
you got radicalized >:V


[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
>>>>>>>>:V


[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Old one

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[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
V I V A    M O T H E R F U C K E R


[04-Apr-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yeah, that's probably the strongest **LEFT** i've seen


[04-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qxX5KhCpTk

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[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Macarou#9574
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[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
you have to download it and then re-upload it, or take a screencap


[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Macarou#9574
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[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh


[04-Apr-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Litrojia More like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_T7bD4pAlE

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Our horses are running mile after mile, Cause Freedom is priceless. Through the slot of my machine gun I'm looking for the enemy in the dust. Mother Anarchy ...
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[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, USSR was super strong state


[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Macarou#9574

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[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
you don't want to be like the USSR


[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
KRONSTADT REBELLION WAS JUST


[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Litrojia#0612
fair, I just saw the 98% communism


[04-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
THEY HAD JUST AIMS


[04-Apr-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant properly take this quiz with an accurateresult sicne i dont udnerstand half the questions


[04-Apr-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's why the neutral/undecided option exists.


[04-Apr-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i;m checking too many of those


[04-Apr-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But you're probably gonna end up with a wide gulf of nothing between your scales


[04-Apr-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which makes my results even less accurate


[04-Apr-19 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My neutral positions come from *actually* being neutral on certain things, though


[04-Apr-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some of mine came formt hat and some of mine beign unreadable


[04-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Litrojia#0612
halfway done


[04-Apr-19 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My main contention with anarchy isn't so much the abolition of state so much as it is that, in my experience, power vacuums don't last long - and here in the US, any place that the state has shown weakness, corporate interests have assumed power, and without the interests of the people at heart


[04-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Litrojia#0612
^^


[04-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Litrojia#0612
I think with anarchy, you'd need *everyone* to buy in


[04-Apr-19 02:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's another one of those scale-dependent ideologies, imo


[04-Apr-19 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can absolutely make anarchy work in a bubble


[04-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
you can make it work when there's literally so much stuff that it isn't worth the effort to protect and hoard


[04-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Macarou#9574

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[04-Apr-19 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
@WingbeatPony This is true if there are means by which people can exploit others to gain wealth, and thus power and influence, as in the case of right-libertarianism or Anarcho-Capitalism. But in a situation where the right to not do that isn't recognized, is observed, then no single person can  really gain the large amount of capital and material influence to affect the balance of power, since the amount that they are able to bring is proportional to the amount of labor he or she is able to accomplish.


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Litrojia#0612
Scroll up @Macarou


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
he already posted the others earlier


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
The concept of property is itself conditioned on the willingness of society to define it in law anyways.


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm talking about, like, a bowl of complimentary mints


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Macarou#9574
I was trying to show the medals


[04-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Litrojia#0612
Ah, I missed your post earlier


[04-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Macarou#9574
It's okay dear


[04-Apr-19 02:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not disparaging your beliefs, just talking about what I've seen and where I've seen it work best


[04-Apr-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
@WingbeatPony Then if someone's holding the complimentary mints all to themselves they can be beat up for it. That's been the presiding principle in non-hierarchical human society forever. If there was anyone ever hoarding shit and not playing along, they've been ignored or had the shit they're effectively stealing taken back.


[04-Apr-19 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, quite simply, if someone has stolen all of the mints, they are no longer complementary


[04-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/xenodochy

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[04-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
>Bushmen, as a class, are a very hospitable race — generous in their sympathies, fond of practising the virtue of xenodochy, entertain strangers with a rough but ready welcome; and it is a pity to see men of this stamp tossed about as they are.


[04-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like natives are always so welcoming and friendly to colonists


[04-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
and then the colonists fuck them over

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[04-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like the only places native tribes still live are places where they weren't friendly and welcoming to the colonists


[04-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
and it seems to be directly proportional to how hard it is to live in that location


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[04-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like equality and socialism are the most common here


[04-Apr-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got this from an earlier quiz as well

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[04-Apr-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people bring up bookchin whenever i mention it though


[04-Apr-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between "social liberalism" and "libertarian socialism" according to this chart


[04-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Litrojia#0612
LIBYA

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[04-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Litrojia#0612
and indecision


[04-Apr-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're likely very similar with afew varied stats here and there


[04-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, you mean social libertarian?


[04-Apr-19 02:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
@WingbeatPony And they probably used force to get them, or ironically the structure of the society is so ill-defined they got away with it. Anarchist philosophy doesn't often say so much that government - as synonymous with the state - should be entirely abolished. There would still need to be a system of structure in place. But what Anarchism proposes is a form of ethical structure to the government. Often in left-wing discourse government is differentiated from the State, where The State is recognized as a class-based institution to control another class. Government is merely social organization writ-large, as politics as a philosophy is the matter of organizing society.


[04-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism is different


[04-Apr-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nope, I meant what I said


[04-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Macarou#9574

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[04-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
because I got only slightly different values from a couple years ago vs now and got social libertarian then and libertarian socialism now


[04-Apr-19 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's why I commented on it being only a few percentage points off


[04-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
oh, you mean on the liberty/authority scale


[04-Apr-19 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[04-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457

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[04-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, my old vs new ones


[04-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
I got liberal on the civil axis, but it still says I'm libertarian lol


[04-Apr-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am not sure what this quiz defines as the difference between the two 'cause I can tell you for sure *I* see a difference


[04-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
I think your view might be skewed by how batshit the libertarian party is in the US


[04-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
because the US libertarian party is more like anarcho-capitalism


[04-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/353/what-is-the-difference-between-liberalism-and-libertarianism

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[04-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
>There was a word that I always liked; the classical economists used it: liberal. The word liberal really meant, in the classical sense, the liberalization of the individuals from the tyranny of the State. That word was expropriated by our opponents and it has now come to mean liberality with other people’s money. The word was taken over. And so I, more than anybody else, was responsible for introducing and publicizing and perhaps making world-wide the word libertarian


[04-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony


[04-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
basically, terms for individual freedom and liberty keep getting made up, and they keep being expropriated by people who want to use the word in order to trick people into giving up their freedom and liberty


[04-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
damn, this channel dies faaast


[04-Apr-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
reee?


[04-Apr-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iunno, makes sense


[04-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny when it happens in #general-discussion and all the shitposters are left flat-footed


[04-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
but general usually just peters out, this channel just hard stopped


[04-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah I think overseas Libertarian means something else that it does in the states


[04-Apr-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every party in america seems to be a bizaro version of it's name in other countries


[04-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Macarou#9574
Is that so? I never noticed


[04-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Honahue#0656
red and blue are switched in that States too


[04-Apr-19 03:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm a bit late to this, but :shrugpony:

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[04-Apr-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[04-Apr-19 03:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
side note: I hate how some of the words on here are stuff like "unless it's valid/legitimate/justified"


[04-Apr-19 03:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what on earth does that even mean


[04-Apr-19 03:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
isn't that subjective as hell and vary between people on a curve


[04-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato, how about this one? http://www.politiscales.net/

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[04-Apr-19 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm actually taking that one rn


[04-Apr-19 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
both tests have this problem somewhat


[04-Apr-19 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's just that what's "justified" to one guy may not be to another


[04-Apr-19 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"blah unless justified" is usually a true statement that I agree with


[04-Apr-19 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but what the fuck does "justified" mean


[04-Apr-19 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so I always pick "neutral/hesitant" on questions like those


[04-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Honahue#0656
it's true for any test, no test captures nuance


[04-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
fine for like math or something less great for political scales


[04-Apr-19 03:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[04-Apr-19 03:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ngl these tests are honestly really good for trying to map out something that is quite subjective into an objective scale


[04-Apr-19 03:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but nonetheless, still a source of frustration


[04-Apr-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
The point is to be as biased as possible


[04-Apr-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
To try to get the strongest reaction


[04-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[04-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mine


[04-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
that's the biggest capitalism I think has been posted here

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[04-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's been one that hasn't had big regulationism though


[04-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[04-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Capitalism works, you just need the state to intervene at some points and consumers to wield a _lot_ of power


[04-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
only insane idiots thinks markets will regulate themselves


[04-Apr-19 03:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
no one here is "muh free market"


[04-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you let companies regulate themselves they will just collude to fuck over consumers


[04-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This has been the case time and time again.


[04-Apr-19 03:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Gilded Age comes to mind


[04-Apr-19 03:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
with all those damn railroad barons


[04-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get how people are so utterly convinced by arguments from other people who have a shoe collection worth more than the first will ever see in their entire lives combined that regulations are bad


[04-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
the same exact argument


[04-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
that's been used for over a century


[04-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
it hasn't changed ever


[04-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
and it never will change


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why does my result have a frowny face


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
and somehow people still fall for it


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Honahue#0656
unfortunatly even government intervention is kinda shit, ignoring the fact that you can essentially buy congressmen the other problem is you want experts to regulate the industry. Those experts come from the industry so even the government oversight is done by the companies they are overseeing


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wait what


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh it got changed


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I panicked for a second


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
original ponythinking is gone


[04-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
what's the result?


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a lot of gray, ngl


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and also a ":("


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which makes me :(


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
it means that it doesn't have enough information to make a flag for you


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I suppose that's fair


[04-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of white space means a lot of neutral/no opinion picks


[04-Apr-19 03:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[04-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
these sorts of tests work the best when you actually have a definite opinion on the majority of the questions


[04-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah a lot of test use even numbers of choices so you can't drift to the center


[04-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
force people to make at least a kinda direction choice


[04-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the deal with this question? "Biologically, human beings are designed for heterosexuality."


[04-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
uh, duh


[04-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that's why we're here


[04-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean I can't enjoy taking it up the pooper


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
it's translated from french


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
so it's probably missing key context


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just answered "neutral" for that one


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because yes, XX and XY


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but like, this reads to me like a "gay bad" question


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the French text say


[04-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Macarou#9574
I don't see it Potato


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
don't see what :ponythinking:


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's an appeal to nature fallacy


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
^


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Macarou#9574
What part of the question sounds, to you, as a "gay bad" Question.


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], what number is that question?


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the whole question reads a lot like a "homosexuality is weird and biology/nature says so" question


[04-Apr-19 03:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(it's randomized)


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I refreshed the quiz 3 times and got 3 different question 1s


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Macarou#9574
How exactly are you interpreting the question, for I see no such thing


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"Biologically, human beings are designed for heterosexuality."


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
To me this implies


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"Biology dictates that humans should be heterosexual and being homosexual upsets the natural order"


[04-Apr-19 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which is like mmmm nah


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Macarou#9574
It implies nothing to me, there is nothing to imply


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
guess we interpret the claim differently


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
this seems another such question: "Hormonal differences can explain some differences in individual characteristics between women and men."


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
uh, no shit?


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
e s t r o g e n


[04-Apr-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
this is well established


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I think those questions are actually used in determining stuff other than the main things it's asking


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
like how anti or pro scientific you are


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
since these are obvious statements that only people with an agenda would question


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but these are often used as "biological determinism" for social roles and heteronomative stuff


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
there's some extra badges you can get


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
well yeah women belong in the kitchen estrogen makes them homemakers


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
like veganism, anarchy, pragmatism, et c


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel like that one falls under "constructivism vs. essentialism"


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
On that note, there are studies which show that humans are pretty likely to fall somewhere off the ends of the Kinsey scake


[04-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
I don't know the full list of them


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
well yeah men become CEO's because that testosterone makes them achivers


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Macarou#9574
What is the Kinsey scale?


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How hetero/homosexual you are


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
ur mom gay


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
gay straight scale made by Dr Kinsey


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr everyone is bi


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Macarou#9574
Okay


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least a little


[04-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's like 1 is no homosex behavior and 10 is exclusively homosex


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There was a recent study that found that the occurrence of 100% straight people is vanishingly small


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
to the point where 1 is like you don't even think abs look nice


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which, I mean, doesn't mean straight people don't *exist*


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's almost like 100% anything is rare :ponythinking:


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
100% pure crack


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
people typically prefer the opposite gender in most cases


[04-Apr-19 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
keyword "typically"


[04-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
but most people have at least feel some attraction to other humans in general


[04-Apr-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, the study more or less was a test of whether you thought A&F models were attractive on a biological, autonomous level


[04-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
otherwise you wouldn't have centuries of men making statues of nekkid men


[04-Apr-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
here I stand: http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?s0=93&m0=98&e0=45&e1=50&t0=48&t1=31&c0=24&c1=62&b1=36&b0=52&femi=24&j0=76&j1=17&p1=29&p0=60&prag=100

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[04-Apr-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
AND HERE I STAY


[04-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
holy christ that's a lot of regulationism


[04-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
by far the biggest one here


[04-Apr-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck corporations


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised that you're so big on essentialism though


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Macarou#9574
And look at that progressivism scale


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
probably because he took a lot of questions at face value


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like the "duh hormones cause difference in sexual behavior that's how testosterone works"


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
>In feminist theory and gender studies, gender essentialism is the attribution of a fixed essences to men and women.


[04-Apr-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
this is probably what it means by essentialism


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
there's a description page http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/help/

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[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Macarou#9574
93 percent progressivism by Byte, nice


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
>The constructivists consider that people build themselves from their environment (notably social) and that the caracteristics that make them who they are, are acquired.
>On the contrary, the essentialists consider that an individual is by nature how he/she is and that his/her caracteristics which make this person who she/he is, are innate.


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't like the question that even the hard sciences are subjective


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're called hard for a reason


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the hard sciences are not subjective


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*but some people think that they are*


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they can change, yes, but the old stuff is just straight wrong


[04-Apr-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so I guess that's what they were testing for


[04-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
ideology still affects the hard sciences


[04-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
furthermore it is well established that humans are innately sexually dimorphic and will in almost all cases follow this pattern, except in the event of developmental or genetic screwups


[04-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
the results not so much but WHERE you look yes


[04-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel almost insulted by the questions of "are men and women different"


[04-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they could ask something about gender roles instead


[04-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't do that


[04-Apr-19 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There was one question that said "women are made, not born" in one of the tests that pissed me off because being a woman is a default option in development


[04-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
.c artist:whydomenhavenipples


[04-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato, that's a famous quote


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
that women aren't born to be mothers, but have to learn how to be one


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't translated correctly


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
see I said they are made because women is a social definition, and it varies between culture what defines being a woman


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's how I interpreted it


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought it of it biologically


[04-Apr-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
o o p s


[04-Apr-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
can you make a better translated version of this test


[04-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
a better translation was "one is not born but rather becomes a woman"


[04-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/3asrbj/what_did_simone_de_beauvoir_mean_when_she_said/

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[04-Apr-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
okay... well if I had that context when answering the question, I would have very much agreed they are made (by society)


[04-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
when I first took the test, I would go search around on google until I found what it was actually asking if it wasn't immediately clear


[04-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
it took me longer to finish, but it probably got the most accurate response


[04-Apr-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just answered "neutral" if two different logical (or so I deemed) interpretations of a question gave two differing opinions


[04-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
pretty much every one I searched which was ambiguous actually had a thread somewhere talking about that exact same question


[04-Apr-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because that's expected value at work :shrugpony:


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[04-Apr-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
my hair is now approaching shoulder length


[04-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
did you get your money yet


[04-Apr-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[04-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610

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[04-Apr-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
like wtf do they think i am


[04-Apr-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
some kind of terrorist or something


[04-Apr-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
i've already had to jump through an insane amount of hoops


[04-Apr-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I just want to have money for food


[04-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, you did jump from literally no account to $200+ within a day


[04-Apr-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel like patreon does this a lot anyway, even not considering that factor


[04-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
I can imagine how that would look suspicious


[04-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think you're a drug dealer probably


[04-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or worse, a sex worker


[04-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOSTA/SESTA etc.


[04-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so I was reading a case where the guy, who worked for Merrill Lynch was explicitly told by his customer "don't overbuy on my account"


[04-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy accidentally overbuys on their account because of a glitch


[04-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then does not tell them they can basically refuse the purchase, only that they can either sell at a loss or pay Merill Lynch more money


[04-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually his employer gets sued and loses


[04-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He is currently Senior Vice President of Investment at Merrill Lynch.


[04-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Funny how things work huh


[04-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[04-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, how did he get away with not telling the customer that they can refuse the purchase? did the customer just not realize that you can't be forced to buy anything in the US?


[04-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he was intentionally trying to get more money.


[04-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/03/republican-matt-gaetz-pitches-alternative-to-green-new-deal.html

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Republican who wants to ban the EPA just pitched an alternative to...
Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida on Wednesday unveiled the framework for his Green Real Deal, a plan to spur clean energy technology innovation.
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[04-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
> “History will judge harshly my Republican colleagues who deny the science of climate change,” Gaetz said during a press conference. “Similarly those Democrats who would use climate change as a basis to regulate out of existence the American experience will face the harsh reality that their ideas will fail.”


[04-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
>First, it would expand efforts to protect U.S. intellectual property to prevent foreign countries, particularly China, from replicating and reproducing future American clean energy advancements.


[04-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
>The plan also calls for modernizing the U.S. electric grid to allow more renewable power to flow through the system. The final two pillars call for opening federal lands for renewable energy research and development and aligning policies and regulations to more quickly bring to market advanced nuclear reactors, carbon capture technology and hydropower projects.


[04-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why the first part is necessary


[04-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
I guess to prevent china from just selling the same technology at a much lower price?


[04-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
>The Green Real Deal does not set targets for emissions reductions or include a fee on carbon pollution. It has just one co-sponsor, but Gaetz says he’s looking for support from other lawmakers, including Democrats.


[04-Apr-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it seems more like lip service than anything


[04-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
it's pointless to make new directives if your directives have no teeth


[04-Apr-19 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It looks like he's trying to make sure that we're the best at green energy by...not cooperating with the rest of the world?


[04-Apr-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And also, apparently, "the American experience" is smog


[04-Apr-19 04:58 AM] Macarou#9574
And Over congested roads


[04-Apr-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
matt gaetz


[04-Apr-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
more like matt gay

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[04-Apr-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also that is 100% bold comic sans on his sign


[04-Apr-19 05:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
>patent perfectly good tech everyone should be able to use to improve the world


[04-Apr-19 05:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
>climate change is only okay to prevent if we make profits


[04-Apr-19 05:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
WEW


[04-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow  no no no, you don't get it


[04-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first part isn't to protect the environment


[04-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first part is to hurt the environment


[04-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
patents on renewables hinder the spread of the technology


[04-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
(patents are *generally* bad nowadays, cause it's already worth it without exclusivity to innovate, and all they get you is lawsuit money later)


[04-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second part isn't to protect the environment either


[04-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's to cut down our forests so that "clean coal" plants can be built in their places


[04-Apr-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
with some ineffective carbon capture experiments to say the whole thing is carbon neutral when those will likely never pan out.


[04-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
His whole approach is to make money, look like we're doing something, not actually do anything.


[04-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And burn down our forests.


[04-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause forests are more profitable as cleared land.


[04-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[04-Apr-19 07:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Apr-19 07:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Matt Gaetz can eat multiple loads of dicks


[04-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol what???


[04-Apr-19 07:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also trump is losing it


[04-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
god that would be great


[04-Apr-19 07:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27021893/trump-oval-office-get-rid-of-judges/

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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27021893/trump-oval-office-get-rid-of-judges/
We Had Another Presidential* Episode in the Oval Office Just Now
"I have to get rid of judges," Trump explained.
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[04-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Mikey#7286
what a dumbass


[04-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
when does he say "someone's going to leak this whole damn speech to the media" in the speech?


[04-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/speedreads/832938/trump-just-took-hatred-windmills-bizarre-new-direction-noiseinduced-cancer

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https://theweek.com/speedreads/832938/trump-just-took-hatred-windmills-bizarre-new-direction-noiseinduced-cancer
Trump just took his hatred of windmills in a bizarre new direction...
At a National Republican Congressional Committee fundraiser dinner Tuesday, President Trump floated what appears to be a new conspiracy theory for him, involving windmills and cancer.

At same NRCC dinner, Trump says of wind farms: “They say the noise causes cancer.”
— ...
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[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t know all i have is that tweet


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
the tweet is linked in that article


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Mikey#7286
i just lost a few iq points reading that


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I donlt know if he knew that speech was being televised


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Mikey#7286
"they say the noise causes cancer"


[04-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
I heard the part about windmill noise causing cancer personally


[04-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[04-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Mikey#7286
the hell????


[04-Apr-19 08:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i mentioned that part yesterday


[04-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4789848/trump-windmills-cancer

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https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4789848/trump-windmills-cancer
Trump: Windmills cause cancer
President Trump criticizes wind power
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[04-Apr-19 08:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of his tirade on the wind power industry is that scottland out of spite built a wind farm next to his scottish golf course


[04-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
oh my fucking god https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4789849/someones-gonna-leak-damn-speech-media

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https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4789849/someones-gonna-leak-damn-speech-media
someones gonna leak this whole damn speech to the media
someones gonna leak this whole damn speech to the media
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[04-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
he actually said it


[04-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's real


[04-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[04-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Mikey#7286
what a fucking moron


[04-Apr-19 08:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you are on live tv you moron


[04-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/speedreads/833201/report-mueller-investigators-wrote-summaries-assumed-made-public

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https://theweek.com/speedreads/833201/report-mueller-investigators-wrote-summaries-assumed-made-public
Report: Mueller investigators wrote summaries they assumed would b...
When Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted his report on Russian interference in the 2016 election and the possibility of President Trump obstructing justice, it was prepared so every section had its own summary, with the belief each would be made available to the public, ...
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[04-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
"When Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted his report on Russian interference in the 2016 election and the possibility of President Trump obstructing justice, it was prepared so every section had its own summary, with the belief each would be made available to the public, a U.S. official familiar with the matter told The Washington Post."


[04-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
"With that in mind, some members of the Mueller team have told associates they are frustrated with Attorney General William Barr sending a four-page letter to Congress that summarized the report in his own words. "There was immediate displeasure from the team when they saw how the attorney general had characterized their work instead," the official told the Post, adding that Mueller's office prepared their summaries in "a way that minimum redactions, if any, would have been necessary, and the work would have spoken for itself.""


[04-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, so apparently every section of the report had its own summary specifically presented in such a way that minimal redactions would be needed to make it publicly releasable


[04-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie too


[04-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't ping me, ping...Moonatik?


[04-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever was saying Mueller would've spoken out if Barr mischaracterized


[04-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here we hear about Mueller's team saying Barr did.


[04-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it was moonatik saying that they should whistleblow


[04-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
@moonatik


[04-Apr-19 08:26 AM] moonatik#3676
oki


[04-Apr-19 08:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html more extensive version of the story

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By NICHOLAS FANDOS, MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MARK MAZZETTI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html
Some on Mueller’s Team Say Report Was More Damaging Than Barr Re...
Members of the special counsel’s team have told associates that their findings are more troubling for President Trump than the attorney general indicated.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/02/us/politics/03dc-mueller/02dc-mueller-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's probably why the white house has done a complete 180 on publicly releasing the mueller report


[04-Apr-19 08:36 AM] moonatik#3676
from what I've gathered here they seem more frustrated with the fact that their own summaries, which were no doubt more detailed and clear, weren't published


[04-Apr-19 08:37 AM] moonatik#3676
rather than with the accuracy of the summary that was released


[04-Apr-19 08:40 AM] moonatik#3676
the full thing is gonna have to be released soon (legally or not) no matter how hard people try to delay it


[04-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
... both of the articles linked literally claim that the investigators say that the AG's summary is misleading at best


[04-Apr-19 08:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
For shitposting purposes I hope it doesn't happen just to keep feathers ruffled.


[04-Apr-19 08:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
But, unrelated: https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/democratic-socialists-america-chicago-rossana-rodriguez-carlos-rosa-chicago-teachers-union

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https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/democratic-socialists-america-chicago-rossana-rodriguez-carlos-rosa-chicago-teachers-union
A Socialist Wave in Chicago
Chicago socialists cleaned house in last night's municipal elections, winning as many as six socialist city council members. The city's left has a historic opportunity to push back years of gentrification, police brutality, and austerity.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/03173954/rossana.jpg


[04-Apr-19 08:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
V I V E


[04-Apr-19 09:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay


[04-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how they plan to deal with the corporate backlash


[04-Apr-19 09:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good question


[04-Apr-19 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wish them luck though


[04-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 6 guys on a council of 50, Crow


[04-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not going to make a damn dent.


[04-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, apparently the whole council is awash with scandals that's letting the socialists make gains to begin with, which is exactly the opening that the socialists need to show that they aren't baby eating maniacs


[04-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
and 12% of the council is more than big enough to prevent them from being buried beneath a bunch of false accusations


[04-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
the only issue I see coming up is if they dive too deep into the anti-personal choice stuff, maybe encourage cooperatives instead of limiting corporations at first


[04-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
since corporations are legally considered "people"


[04-Apr-19 02:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1113770514965725186?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1113770514965725186?s=21
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM!
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[04-Apr-19 02:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Last 3 days


[04-Apr-19 02:10 PM] illumnious#7938
And it’s in fucking all caps


[04-Apr-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[04-Apr-19 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the party of the warped and twisted american dream


[04-Apr-19 02:17 PM] moonatik#3676
https://youtu.be/-14SllPPLxY

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https://youtu.be/-14SllPPLxY
George Carlin on the American Dream
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[04-Apr-19 02:17 PM] moonatik#3676
"that's why they call it the american dream, you've gotta be asleep to believe it"


[04-Apr-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://bookriot.com/2019/04/03/book-ban-in-washington-prisons

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https://bookriot.com/2019/04/03/book-ban-in-washington-prisons
Washington Department of Corrections Quietly Bans Book Donations t...
The Washington State Department of Corrections quietly rolled out a new policy via a memo on their website last month which disallows books to be donated to prisons via nonprofit organizations. So qui
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[04-Apr-19 05:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/TCO-letter-to-rapporteurs.pdf


[04-Apr-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, seems the EU thinks Article 13 isn't enuff


[04-Apr-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Article 13 was part of a directive, member states could chose their own ways to implement it, and was for copyright


[04-Apr-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a regulation, no choosing


[04-Apr-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
for "terrorist content"


[04-Apr-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
with *1 hour* to remove it or face penalties after notice


[04-Apr-19 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if the notice comes in at like, 1 AM in France


[04-Apr-19 05:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's fukking awake and the site gets rekt by the authorities when it removes content too late


[04-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also while Article 13 vaguely implied upload filters are necessary or sites will get rekt


[04-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
this outright states and promotes them


[04-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
If this passes, it would not be at all unreasonable for all media sites to consider the EU a location of last resort for hosting.


[04-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So it seems Barr is full of it.


[04-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[04-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy literally believes the President is above the law and that obstruction of justice requires conviction for the underlying crime *first*


[04-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Rudy told Trump some of it is really bad and that's why his tune changed


[04-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
These things should disqualify someone from serving in a legal capacity, ever.


[04-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not how it works.


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how it shoudl work


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The first one is just an extreme view that sadly has some background


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, Its


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has a special brand of it


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
he believes


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
that by default


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
laws do not apply to specifically the president


[04-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that to apply


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
they must name the president as being someone that can commit the crime


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He literally believes


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
that Trump could shoot someone on live TV


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not be guilty of any crime, period


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
since murder doesn't list the president


[04-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think there's probably shitloads of evidence of obstruction and Mueller didn't just want to say anything definitive


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But lay it out to the public


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way it was set up


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now Barr has poisoned it as was always the plan


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller *couldn't* say anything definitive


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He had no power to indict Trump, an interview was denied, Barr could've fired him and shut it all down etc.


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though supposedly a lot of people don't believe Barr


[04-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller's only option was to push the report thru and let it speak for itself.


[04-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents don't believe Barr


[04-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do


[04-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much same as everything with Trump


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said the report came to no conclusion but he said he just...randomly decided there was nothing


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With no evidence of what he based that on


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is essentially what Barr was hired to do


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sessions wouldn't've done this


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why Sessions had to go.


[04-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump needed someone with no actual integrity.


[04-Apr-19 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but


[04-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people who were Trump voters scared of a Democratic win in 2020 because of the "revenge" of the left


[04-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like no shit


[04-Apr-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yes, he wrecked the country and threw us all under a bus, But let;s totally elect him again he seems like a great guy!


[04-Apr-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he's going slightly senile


[04-Apr-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's swearing more than usual


[04-Apr-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably is since alzheimer's runs in his family


[04-Apr-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his rants are gettign more dellusional


[04-Apr-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s mixing up and slurrign words more


[04-Apr-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems to forget he's on live national TV durign speeches


[04-Apr-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
something isn;t right upstairs but no one can properly diagnose him since he only goes to shady backdoor doctors who rig his results


[04-Apr-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Things are way more not normal than usual


[04-Apr-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
He's now promoting bizarre conspiracies about wind farms causing cancer and shit


[04-Apr-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's also way more frantic as of late


[04-Apr-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
He's gone insane


[04-Apr-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also looks very lost in a lot of his recent speeches


[04-Apr-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with that oranges comment


[04-Apr-19 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He needs medical attention but he is clearly resisting any attempts to get him to do so


[04-Apr-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
what if he dies


[04-Apr-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then pence takes over if he hasn't reached november of next year


[04-Apr-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
political ramifications


[04-Apr-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
not the obvious "vp takes over"


[04-Apr-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
like, what happens to the sc investigation results if trump dies


[04-Apr-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
does barr report to pence


[04-Apr-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[04-Apr-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
etc.


[04-Apr-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good questions


[04-Apr-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what becomes of all the legislative hostage negotiations trump has going right now


[04-Apr-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alzheimer's doesn't kill you that fast


[04-Apr-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It kills you in like 2 decades


[04-Apr-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true though trump's diet also seems to consist ofnothing but fast food so that might also kill him sooner than later


[04-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fast food and diet soda


[04-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll be dead in 10 years


[04-Apr-19 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
10 years is very generous lol


[04-Apr-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
No I mean in 10 years from now there'll for sure be a gravestone


[04-Apr-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
the exact number of years is unknown, but it's gotta be less than 10


[04-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[04-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd say 5 is a reasonable number


[04-Apr-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/04/donald-trump-considering-herman-cain-federal-reserve-post/3364533002/

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Trump considers former pizza magnate Herman Cain for spot on the F...
President Donald Trump is considering former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain for the Federal Reserve board.
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[04-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no


[04-Apr-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there we go a non subscriber source


[04-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cain was the asshole calling for a super low flat tax


[04-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which would've completely destroyed the gov't's ability to fund itself


[04-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Flat taxes can, surprisingly, actually work because the savings in complexity can offset their regressive nature


[04-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
but ffs


[04-Apr-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
9% is just stupid


[04-Apr-19 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who was the guy who said the pyramids were holy grain silos?


[04-Apr-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I forgot his name


[04-Apr-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i know is apparently he's a competent neurosurgeon who i wouldnt trust with my life


[04-Apr-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right that was ben carson


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's in charge of the Dept. of Housing


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He spends $50,000 on a new office


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
In what can only be described as "very obvious embezzlement"


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He also thinks blakk people shouldn't be allowed in Section 8 housing


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
because he made it without it


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ben carson is in charge of the dept, of housing?


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless he got ousted, yes


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's fukking Malthusian


[04-Apr-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking wat


[04-Apr-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he believes the solution to poverty is to take away anything the poor could use to clambor bakk onto the social ladder


[04-Apr-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that the worthy can build their own jetpakk while the rest FUKKING DIE


[04-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is provably false as an actual solution.


[04-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's not based on evidence, never was


[04-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthus' ideas are based on classism.


[04-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a justification for denying things to poor people.


[04-Apr-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Joseph built the grain silos to starve the egyptian povertian scum into submission!


[04-Apr-19 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we can manage a new president in 2020, the whitehouse needs a full systematic purge


[04-Apr-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ben Carson should be in jail


[04-Apr-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So should Ryan Zinke


[04-Apr-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ajit Pai too


[04-Apr-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who the fuck is ryan zinke?


[04-Apr-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was in charge of the Dept. of the Interior


[04-Apr-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was a Montana Republican, you know, the sort that pretends they're a libertarian, but is actually essentially an oil baron/slumlord hybrid


[04-Apr-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait is he the guy who was ousted before carson on charges of embezzlement?


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, I don't think he got charged


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but there were serious red flags


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he left


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right he ran for the hills


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his face screams "I drink toilet water with a solid gold straw after peeing in it"


[04-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's still under investigation


[04-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gianforte replaced him as the Republican shill congressman for my state


[04-Apr-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also betsy devos, the new head of the EPA, and about 200 other fuckers


[04-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
My parents liked to joke that Ryan Stinke got replaced by Greg Giantfarte


[04-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they're well aware of the shillery going on.


[04-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Betsy "Special Olympics detract funding from actual needs like school vouchers" Devos


[04-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Herman Cain


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget Elaine Chao, Intexda


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286
The guy who ran in 2012 and dropped out after several sexual misconduct allegations


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell's rich Chinese wife, current Secretary of Transportation


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's busy ensuring poor people can't get train rides


[04-Apr-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or bus rides


[04-Apr-19 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking ass face is what she is


[04-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[04-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
research has shown the single biggest factor in social mobility is transportation


[04-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
*not* education, money, any of that


[04-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way you get out of poverty is by moving to where work is, or being able to commute to it


[04-Apr-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, you need the transportation to even reach those int he first place


[04-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell's wife is ensuring that doesn't happen.


[04-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hardly anybody realizes that particular problem, tho.


[04-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're too busy focused on more obvious shit like the EPA


[04-Apr-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i realize my town has no public busses aND the only busses for order are for disabled people which they;d cut too if they didnt charge money for it


[04-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's part of the Trump shell game


[04-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you can stop half of what Trump does, the other half goes thru


[04-Apr-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
For everything the public's fury can actually focus on, something worse slips by relatively unnoticed.


[04-Apr-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've especially been going after bi city transport so people from one town cant get to shit in another town


[04-Apr-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm stuck in a single town in my huge ass state when there are things in other towns i need to get to


[04-Apr-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and as much as I can use my scooter I can't actually take it out of my town without it beign faster which requires a license


[04-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
My state requires a license for any motorized scooter period


[04-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You step onto an RC car, you need a license.


[04-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy


[04-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, Republicans here, who are perpetually in control of the legislature, insist that requiring licenses for guns etc. would be a terrible thing


[04-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that people should be able to hunt endangered species


[04-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they want to make sure nobody drives a golf cart without a license.


[04-Apr-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie so what happens if trump were to have a heart attack tomorrow


[04-Apr-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pence takes over and says nothing for a month, congress is left to posthumously say Trump evaded taxes as they try to go after Jared etc.


[04-Apr-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Media frenzy covers that while Pence quietly puts out orders to fukk more shit up, especially the EPA


[04-Apr-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd likely reel bakk the border stuff a bit to pursue a different course.


[04-Apr-19 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47813894

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Is Prince Harry right on Fortnite ban?
The Duke of Sussex had scathing words for the game, but is he right?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/ADBF/production/_106297444_mediaitem106297443.jpg


[04-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Rule #1 of articles that ask a question


[04-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The answer is almost always no.


[04-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It *is* no if they don't answer it, which they didn't here.


[04-Apr-19 09:25 PM] moonatik#3676
wait


[04-Apr-19 09:25 PM] moonatik#3676
that's not an april fools article?


[04-Apr-19 09:26 PM] moonatik#3676
yet another reason to abolish the monarchy and to have a 100% inheritance tax


[04-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/trump-posts-insane-video-of-biden-getting-touched-inappropriately-by-biden-welcome-back-joe/

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Colby Hall
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/trump-posts-insane-video-of-biden-getting-touched-inappropriately-by-biden-welcome-back-joe/
Trump Posts Insane Video of Biden Getting Touched Inappropriately ...
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screen-Shot-2019-04-04-at-1.54.38-PM.jpg


[04-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Peak 2010s


[04-Apr-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Feelings vs reality

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[04-Apr-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something I'd like to point out from an earlier article https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/03/USAT/a4dfa412-d7fa-4894-ac9a-a25fd7124eb9-XXX_tdl_001_.jpg?width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp

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[04-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a point at which you can't call it a "shiv", because it looks like something a LOTR protagonist would discover as some lost elven swordcraft


[04-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This point should not be present within a prison system, but Alabama really hates blakk people.


[04-Apr-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ewg.org/release/la-county-bans-use-monsanto-s-roundup-weedkiller-over-health-concerns

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LA County Bans Use of Monsanto’s Roundup Weedkiller on County Pr...
The same day that a second jury in seven months found that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup, causes cancer, Los Angeles County banned any further use of the toxic weedkiller by all county departments.
https://cdn.ewg.org/sites/default/files/news/PesticideParkBlog.jpg


[04-Apr-19 10:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A sword is an ancient military weapon. ⚔


[04-Apr-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/PNTISG805CA

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Alienated TV
https://youtu.be/PNTISG805CA
Chapo Trapo House - Joe Biden
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[04-Apr-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
the first recorded weapon used in history is a rock


[04-Apr-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
the second is a spear


[04-Apr-19 10:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, the first weapon was words.


[04-Apr-19 10:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someone called Ug's meat small and Grugg was superior


[04-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, apparently a local news station released a documentary entitled "seattle is dying", and literally everyone else is refuting almost everything said in it


[04-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
because of the homeless problem


[04-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
that seattle tried to pass a corporate tax to fix


[04-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
but an amazon representative came at the last possible moment, dragged the council behind a locked door, and they came out an hour later and voted it down


[04-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
even though before the visit, it was projected it was going to pass


[04-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, apparently it claims that 100 homeless people are commiting 1500+ crimes a year


[04-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
and it uses a "homeless" dude who has a nerve problem which causes him to crumple down while walking in their video and portrayed him as useless trash


[04-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
when he hasn't actually been homeless for over 3 years


[04-Apr-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://crosscut.com/2019/03/man-used-proof-seattle-dying-tells-his-story

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Man used as proof that ‘Seattle Is Dying’ tells his story
Robert Champagne says KOMO's special inaccurately portrayed him. To start, he hasn't been homeless for more than three years.
https://crosscut.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/190322_seattleisdying_03_2.jpg


[04-Apr-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
someone should represent him pro bono to destroy that local news station


[04-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
literally every other local news station is refuting them, and pretty much every example they used in their ""documentary"" has been misrepresented at best, and pretty much every example they've used has been calling them out on it


[04-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
but it's enough for the reactionaries to say they have a leg to stand on when they say we should exterminate the homeless


[04-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
they had to change their tactics because it was obvious that the increasing minimum wage wasn't destroying seattle but revitalizing it


[05-Apr-19 05:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1113963007917416450?s=21

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[05-Apr-19 05:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1113862077842640898?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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WELCOME BACK JOE! https://t.co/b2NbBSX3sx
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[05-Apr-19 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/white-house-says-mueller-report-must-be-kept-private-be-1833813865

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White House Says Mueller Report Must Be Kept Private Because It’...
WASHINGTON—Arguing that the special counsel’s findings constitute a grave threat to public health, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee-Sanders told reporters Thursday the Mueller report must never be released because it’s so exonerating it would drive the America...
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[05-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
White House: I drew a picture for mommy SO GOOD I can't show it to her cause she might die. Trust me, the teacher saw it and said it was good.


[05-Apr-19 05:40 AM] Honahue#0656
it's so exonerating?


[05-Apr-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
onion


[05-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Honahue#0656
kek, didn't read the URL


[05-Apr-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
https://politics.theonion.com/william-barr-declares-mueller-investigation-fully-exone-1833556900

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William Barr Declares Mueller Investigation Fully Exonerates Membe...
WASHINGTON—Following the completion of the special counsel’s 22-month probe, Attorney General William P. Barr declared Monday that Robert Mueller’s investigation fully exonerates all members of Ronald Reagan’s presidential administration from involvement in the Iran...
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[05-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not far from the actual news https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/04/donald-trump-claims-chinese-trade-deal-very-close/3366525002/

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Donald Trump claims Chinese trade deal is 'very close'
The United States and China are looking for ways to head off the tariff-fueled trade war that has stressed financial markets worldwide.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/04/USAT/08e64f3d-2418-42c4-9ceb-76b5a4a49896-AFP_AFP_UP4IC_95664863_1.JPG?crop=3245,1830,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[05-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286
sad


[05-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Earlier Thursday, Trump said the Chinese "very much want to make a deal ... We’ll see what happens. It’s got to be a great deal."'


[05-Apr-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27032618/pork-plants-trump-administration-deregulation/

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This Is How the Sausage Gets Made
The Trump administration* is moving to let pork plants do a little more self-regulating. What could go wrong?
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[05-Apr-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess bacon is off the menu for awhile


[05-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
turkey bacon


[05-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
actual bacon is incredibly unhealthy and should never be eaten, by anyone


[05-Apr-19 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unamerican


[05-Apr-19 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Uncle Sam, execute this man


[05-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
God wrote that pigs were unclean, little did we know he was talking about the Trump administration rolling back regulations on the meat industry


[05-Apr-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where is Upton Sinclare when you need him.


[05-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dead


[05-Apr-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then we need a new one. Unfortunately our journalists are failed lit majors.


[05-Apr-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
And in this day and age we'd need a William S. Borroughs to do a deep dive into the meat industry.


[05-Apr-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
All meat packers hire Mugwumps.


[05-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worst part is


[05-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Upton Sinclair was trying to write about how we treat immigrants more like livestokk than people


[05-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that maybe that's not okay


[05-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But all people cared about was that the immigrants might be spitting or shitting in the meat.


[05-Apr-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho tbf, the end of the book is garbage.


[05-Apr-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can't blame anyone for stopping at the penultimate chapter and just imagining the main character died on a farm somewhere.


[05-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It goes from being relatively realistic as he comes bakk to find out how his family fell to pieces without him, to being SOCIALISM WILL SAVE ALL RAAAH RAAAH SOCIALISM


[05-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually kinda hilariously bad cause, like, the main character appears from a non-socialist perspective to be just plain brainwashed from being so traumatized he'll super buy into anyone offering his savior


[05-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you can tell the author means that the character is actually right.


[05-Apr-19 06:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fooddive.com/news/report-pork-safety-inspection-oversight-shifting-to-processors/551975/ non esquire source

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Report: Pork safety inspection oversight shifting to processors
The Trump administration plans to cut federal inspectors by 40% starting next month, according to The Washington Post.
https://www.fooddive.com/user_media/cache/39/7c/397c5d8d12def8a2fb110244f4520298.jpg


[05-Apr-19 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Trump administration also plans to allow beef inspections to be assumed by plant owners, The Post reported, with USDA officials scheduled to discuss the changes with that industry next month


[05-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a good time to go vegan


[05-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
not for ethics just for health


[05-Apr-19 06:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully they wont think to go for the chicken industry


[05-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/04/california-woman-fired-maga-hat-starbucks/3370307002/

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California woman fired after confronting man wearing MAGA hat at S...
The woman was fired after posting on social media that she “yelled at him about how it was not okay to hate brown people."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/24/PDTF/34402b7a-995a-44b4-96d4-9ddcab575cb6-Make_America_Great_Again_Hat_White_House_gift_shop.JPG?crop=384,216,x0,y62&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[05-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
is it just me, or do USA today comments no longer work?


[05-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, tl;dr feminazi yells at jewish dude for wearing MAGA hat


[05-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
got fired from her job for doing so


[05-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
>Palo Alto Weekly reported that Mankey called the 74-year-old Jewish man “Nazi scum” and posted his photo on Twitter, asking for help in identifying him. The man, identified only as Victor by NBC News, described the incident and expressed regret that it resulted in her firing.


[05-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/04/house-rebukes-trump-with-vote-ending-us-support-for-yemen-war-1255866

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House rebukes Trump with vote ending U.S. support for Yemen war
Trump is expected to veto the measure, which passed with bipartisan support in the Senate.
https://static.politico.com/f8/96/d57275c648149c79e63631bbc4cd/190404-donald-trump-gty-773.jpg


[05-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
>The House initially passed a Yemen War Powers resolution in February, but it couldn’t advance to the Senate because it included a Republican amendment condemning anti-Semitism. The Senate’s parliamentarian said the amendment was not “germane” to the underlying bill, effectively killing it.


[05-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[05-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
so all that the house minority has to do to get a bill killed is tack on an extra part that obviously has nothing to do with the original bill?


[05-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
that's incredibly fucked up


[05-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Honahue#0656
That's the reverse of log rolling


[05-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Neat we didn't cover that in econ


[05-Apr-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I sent that legaleagle video covering why the barr summary makes no sense to my mom, she said that legaleagle lied about the 3 tasks that he said that mueller were given to investigate


[05-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
she says that mueller was given carte blanche to investigate every little tiny thing about trump to try and find something to impeach him with


[05-Apr-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[05-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/mar-a-lago-chinese-malware.html

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By ZOLAN KANNO-YOUNGS, KATIE ROGERS and ALEXANDRA STEVENSON
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/mar-a-lago-chinese-malware.html
Malware Arrest Exposes Security Gaps at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club
The arrest of a woman with a malware-laced device revealed the challenge of protecting a president who prefers a resort over Camp David.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/05/03/us/politics/03dc-security-sub/03dc-security-sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Apr-19 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/437481-wikileaks-assange-will-be-expelled-from-ecuadorian-embassy-within

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WikiLeaks: Assange will be expelled from Ecuadorian Embassy within...
A Twitter account for WikiLeaks, the document trove website founded by Julian Assange, said Thursday that Assange will be ousted from his sanctuary at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London within "hours to days."
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[05-Apr-19 03:09 PM] Macarou#9574
https://www.texasobserver.org/shes-28-shes-an-immigrant-shes-in-charge-of-texas-most-populous-county-get-used-to-it/

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She’s 28. She’s an Immigrant. She’s in Charge of Texas’ Mo...
When Lina Hidalgo was elected Harris County judge in November, many scoffed at her unexpected victory. Now she’s on a mission to prove that her progressive agenda is just what Houston needs.
https://www.texasobserver.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/hidalgo-social-apr19-spoth.jpg


[05-Apr-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good for her, I wish her a lot of luck with texas as she;s going to need it


[05-Apr-19 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/fomvb111zdq21.jpg

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[05-Apr-19 03:13 PM] Macarou#9574
Why would she be needing Luck with Texas?


[05-Apr-19 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is super conservative


[05-Apr-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7de8633672d448cc87f5557cd62cfd9a

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https://apnews.com/7de8633672d448cc87f5557cd62cfd9a
Trump drops border shutdown threat and proposes auto tariffs
WASHINGTON (AP) — Abandoning his threat to immediately seal the southern border, President Donald Trump warned instead that he'd slap tariffs on cars coming to the U.S. from Mexico unless the...
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[05-Apr-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tarrif man is at it again!


[05-Apr-19 04:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
lol he realized shit would've hit the fan if he closed the border


[05-Apr-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, most people railed his ass for that threat


[05-Apr-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at one point he defiantly said "I will do it even if it kills the economy"


[05-Apr-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in different words


[05-Apr-19 04:43 PM] Honahue#0656
Drop the chicken tax that'll show the automakers


[05-Apr-19 04:44 PM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure most of the cars coming in from Mexico are Fords


[05-Apr-19 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america: Land of tainted meat, home of tarriffs! lot;s of tarrifs!


[05-Apr-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right, this self regulation thing with the meat industries will also likely further drive away food trade with other countries as they try to avoid our poisoned products


[05-Apr-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-texas-execution/texas-bans-all-clergy-from-death-chamber-after-court-stays-buddhists-execution-idUSKCN1RG1J5

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Texas bans all clergy from death chamber after court stays...
Texas will bar clergy of all faiths from accompanying inmates into the death cha...
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[05-Apr-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNineSEoxjQ

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNineSEoxjQ
Why Tucker Carlson pretends to hate elites
Why would Tucker Carlson, who used to brag about being an “out-of-the-closet elitist,” use his primetime Fox News show to rail against the “ruling class?” Be...
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[05-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Honahue#0656
trust fund baby literally trying to make the working class hate the working class and not the bourgeoisie


[05-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Honahue#0656
there aren't enough guillotines


[06-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.axios.com/michael-cohens-alleged-evidence-trump-crimes-russia-70a202e0-a474-4322-9033-7e674bfec4ed.html

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Michael Cohen attorneys release new allegations of Trump-Russia co...
Cohen's release also claims to have evidence on "other felony crimes committed by Trump."
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[06-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly this is what he told Mueller


[06-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/politics/trump-tax-returns.html

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By NICHOLAS FANDOS and MAGGIE HABERMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/politics/trump-tax-returns.html
Trump Lawyer Tells Treasury Not to Give Democrats Tax Returns
A private lawyer retained by President Trump to fight Democratic demands for his tax returns told the Treasury Department that the request is an abuse of power.
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[06-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
>Mr. Neal, a Democrat, made the request through a little-known but frequently used provision of the federal tax code that allows Congress’s tax-writing committees to view tax information on any filer. The authority is regularly used by the committee to confidentially measure the effects of policy proposals, but there is little precedent for using it to examine the returns of a president.


[06-Apr-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure what anyone expected to happen with this


[06-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That report mentions the BuzzFeed thing by name


[06-Apr-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that even a thing the treasury department can do?


[06-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What, refuse? Hell no.


[06-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Refusing to show congress how someone's taxes are collected when congress literally wrote the law on the matter so they could always see stuff is not okay.


[06-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is the legislative body needs unfettered access to see how their tax laws are working.


[06-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the argument is congress needs a *really strong reason* to see the taxes of someone KNOWN TO EVADE TAXES...


[06-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point it's impeding the basic running of gov't.


[06-Apr-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i actually was asking if they can show the president;s taxes but that was a good explanation, thank you


[06-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
the president is still a citizen of the US


[06-Apr-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
valid point, I didnt actually know the treasury department was responsible for presenting citizen tax records to congress


[06-Apr-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
congress has every authority to request Trump's taxes


[06-Apr-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
that said I don't think they have any authority to release those taxes


[06-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess no one cares about the Cohen stuff


[06-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it is a pretty blatant attempt at getting out of prison


[06-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But does have new stuff


[06-Apr-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One way or the other Cohen has cried wolf and/or lied under oath one too many times


[06-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Trump implied he should


[06-Apr-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think people are just tired of listening to him in general


[06-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he understood the coded language


[06-Apr-19 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One side is saying "well gee isn't it convenient how you just *happened* to find this new stuff now" and the other side is saying "these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at Krusty Burger"


[06-Apr-19 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://superhappybubbleslove.tumblr.com/post/183022724083/prismatic-bell-microcroft-historicalfawn

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[06-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying this is the stuff that he said to Mueller


[06-Apr-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the school shooting shit is fucked to hell, Even at my college we have routine shooter drills


[06-Apr-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Everyone who thought active shooter drills were a good idea must not have gone to school at the same time I did and remembered how much of a threat we thought quicksand was going to be in daily life


[06-Apr-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly the drills jsut make it easier to plan out a shooting if it isn;t a mental snap incident


[06-Apr-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*Hey, kids, now remember, this is where all of your classmates are going to be when you lose it*


[06-Apr-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the shooters arent going to jsut jiggle the locks either, they will use force to take down the door


[06-Apr-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention, y'know, just the very act of calling them active shooter drills makes it seem like something that might not just happen, but is bound to happen


[06-Apr-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it's only a matter of time before someone plans a shooting to happen during a drill


[06-Apr-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s really fucked up


[06-Apr-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
When I was in school, we had I dunno how many bomb threats in one year and every single time...they packed us all into the auditorium while they brought in dogs to hunt through the school. I think it was on threat #2 that I thought, "y'know, if I were actually planning to do harm, this is the room where I'd plant it"


[06-Apr-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I very much did not want to get blowed up


[06-Apr-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college atleast has the advantage of having 4 buildings so if there's only one shooter then the other 3 buildings might have a shot at evacuation, but  other schools arent built like that


[06-Apr-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drill logic works more liek the engager is some rando off the street who busted intot he school, but it;s most likely to be a student or a teacher


[06-Apr-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...who we have armed with "secret" guns, and trained them in the use of. Just in case.


[06-Apr-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least I don't *think* any districts actually tried to do that, to my knowledge


[06-Apr-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the drills also inform them that those classrooms that look dark and empty, are infact full of people


[06-Apr-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, reactionary responses are 100% the wrong approach to this situation because it will always be too late, first of all, and second of all you get dumb ideas like a bucket full of rocks


[06-Apr-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ripe for the killing


[06-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a saying the people will rarely rise to the occasion, they fall back to their lowest level of training


[06-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20 years after Columbine


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have fixed nothing


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have made the situation objectively worse


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we basically did what people durign world war 2 did for nuke prep


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything other than saying that we have a mental health problem with young men


[06-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We'll blame anyone and anything other than accepting that


[06-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And if anyone wants to change it they're a SJW


[06-Apr-19 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we could start by not releasing the names of shooters to the public but our news media is so ratings hungry they would never go for this


[06-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/soDrJAe

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A bit old but still a problem..
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[06-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/aGyrZTf.jpg

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[06-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/KkOb0Ld.jpg

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[06-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/8jrFTpD.jpg

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[06-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Much like how disabled people are paid less, a lot of people think that this is okay


[06-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racial slavery never went away, it just got special facilities and accepted whites too.


[06-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but in lower amounts)


[06-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Slavery got much better when it was desegregated


[06-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
That makes it not racist


[06-Apr-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[06-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Honahue#0656
It's almost like that old saying


[06-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Honahue#0656
There's no ethical consumption under capitalism


[06-Apr-19 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/563947352105156638/8p9eb4beniq21.png

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[06-Apr-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitch-mcconnell-undid-213-years-of-senate-history-in-33-minutes/2019/04/03/58b3eaca-565c-11e9-9136-f8e636f1f6df_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.3e69627dbe35


[06-Apr-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato @Crow recommend not posting in general at the moment


[06-Apr-19 07:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hm?


[06-Apr-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
please don't derail the argument


[06-Apr-19 07:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok


[06-Apr-19 07:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wait


[06-Apr-19 07:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I maintain that we're just conversing simultaneously but tangentially to the argument


[06-Apr-19 07:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Shitposting maybe, but without attempt to derail


[06-Apr-19 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it's allowing the user to try to move the goalposts


[06-Apr-19 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
greater good atm


[06-Apr-19 07:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
?


[06-Apr-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
star pone is being pretty subversive with his arguments, even back when we first started talking about classes to begin with


[06-Apr-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why I linked both the ad hominem and poisoning the well articles from wikipedia


[06-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Well I somehow got banned from general chat. oof


[06-Apr-19 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I slienced a bunch of people for a moment as things were getting out o fhand


[06-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Honahue#0656
ah


[06-Apr-19 08:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[06-Apr-19 08:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Guess I'll wait for discussion to calm down a bit


[06-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
~~Course the two mods carrying the debate didn’t get silenced~~


[06-Apr-19 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
nor did the primary user involved


[06-Apr-19 08:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The stuff I was discussing with pizza did start to diverge from the main chat after a while


[06-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay


[06-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm here


[06-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting people on wages where they can't afford food and rent


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
or trapping them in welfare that's so conditional they can barely liv


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ninja'd, lol


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is pretty evil.


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, wages


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not giving them healthcare when they will die without is fairly evil.


[06-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Do you buy cheap products? Because honestly you're being "evil", too, just as much as they are.


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I dont' have a choice


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
But we continue to buy cheap things because we like to save money.


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
They see it the same way.


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I literally _cannot afford not to_


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no way to consume ethically


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
They are the same way.


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you are lynching negroes.
Republicans fight tooth and nail against minimum wage laws and public healthcare.


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I have so little money that I will _starve and die homeless_ if I do not buy cheap products


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Outright denying that there is such a thing as "universal human rights" is, I'd say, evil


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck you if you say that I'm evil for buying cheap


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, wtf are we talking about?


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte, don't


[06-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
*But you are lynching negroes.*, remember.


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's not what I'm saying woah


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Princess Luna (Nebbie)Today at 12:42 AM
Putting people on wages where they can't afford food and rent``` You called this "Evil", yes?


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a type of fallacy.


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its modern name is whataboutism.


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
But it's essentially the same thing as what we do when we buy affordable products.


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
They're buying affordable labor.


[06-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's where you deflect from a moral argument by trying to say everyone's bad, so we shouldn't care.


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying you can't really damn them for it, not unless they're being malicious about it.


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are not required to buy that labor


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
sweat shops and prison labor aren't malicious?


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are making ridiculous profits


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why would malicious behavior be a prerequisite anyway


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could make lower profits by paying more wages


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I cannot buy more expensive food


[06-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would starve if I did.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The companies would continue to exist if they paid a bit more. I would not.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
that's how it's always been


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if they were doing this out of sheer negligence, would you not also call them out for it?


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Princess Luna (Nebbie)Today at 12:46 AM
They could make lower profits by paying more wages``` Have you run a company like the kind you're talking about? Have you seen their expenditure reports, revenues, projections, etc?


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
Sure, call them out.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
Say it's bad, it is.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm not saying it's _okay_.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
argue super hard against regulation just because it cuts into profits, not because it puts them out of business


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then what the fukk are you saying?


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because I'm saying evil must be FUKKING OPPOSED


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Bezos is worth over 100 billion dollars, he lost 35 billion to his wife


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying you shouldn't really condemn them for it.


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
that we need to actually be fukking changing the damn laws


[06-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't fukking CARE about condemnation


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is the difference between calling something out and condemning it


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not here to say we should throw a company into literal Hell


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, fine.


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
We're good then, actually, hah.


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Honahue#0656
that's so much money no one person could do anything with it


[06-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am saying that what we need is some damn regulation so we can establish a better system where they are not doing evil things on a daily basis.


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And at the very least, we need to *stop* deregulating things to facilitate it


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Bezo's wife pretty much has to limit her daily budget to like 1million dollars a day so she doesn't spend it all be fore she dies


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
I just don't like the sort of hatred I see behind this quite frequently. The issues are systematic in a way you're more familiar with than you'd like to think.


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need unions to be acting as a counterweight on companies


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
that's probably a low ball estimate


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need monopolies broken up so that businesses can actually compete


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Oh hell yeah


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Medical insurance and ISP are so jacked up right now.


[06-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need consumers to hav more wages and welfare on the bottom so that people can actually afford more expensive products


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
there's a point that you're making so much money that you can't realistically spend it all at a rate faster than you're replacing it


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
They invest it


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's how they spend it.


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
into themselves


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
to make themselves more money


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
stock buy backs


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
They give it to groups that will make more money with it.


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
those groups are other wealthy people


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Johnson and Johnson


[06-Apr-19 08:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And do you know what happens when you invest things? Like, on a massive scale? You end up on boards of investors


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
created a pill


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
that wasn't better than their previous pill at treating schizophrenia


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they wanted to make more money


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't want to help people, no, they just wanted more money


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
they invest it in selling shitty products to people who can't really afford those products anyway, but buy them because of slick marketing campaigns


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they marketed it


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they...broke the law...like a lot


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they sold it as a treatment for dementia and autism


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
if that isn't stealing from the poor, I don't know what is


[06-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
**it gave boys breasts**


[06-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They altered the research conclusions to downplay that


[06-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they eventually pressured the FDA into allowing it for treating autism


[06-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They paid the gov't a ton because of the whole dementia thing


[06-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it was all just operating expense to them


[06-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Damn


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
they make so much in fukking profit they can afford TWO BILLION DOLLARS as a settlement


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, there's no denying some real bad crap goes down sometimes.


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And for some reason being on a board of investors gives you (and your friends) the power to sway the direction a company goes. Rarely does this have anything to do with the company's mission statement or code of ethics. It's 100% about the bottom line, and increasing the bottom line, and whatever widgets the company makes is irrelevant, your only concern is the stocks


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, they judsted how much of that settlement went where


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Honahue#0656
it goes down constatly


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
because certain kinds of settlements are tax deductible


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
because our system is fukking stupid, that's why.


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time


[06-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
J&J was the company that heard about tampering of its products


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
and as far as pharmacuticals a lot of the research is paid for by the government then the drug is sold to a company who get's a patent and they make 20 years of profit from taxpayer money


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and absolutely spent a shitton recalling them and improving safety for everyone


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they were very ethical


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they aren't anymore


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This happens with literally every company on the NYSE, btw


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern J&J has different values


[06-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't take responsibility for things.


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
Honestly, I think these kinds of things are kind of the reason the economy is so much worse today than in the 50's.


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maybe automation plays a big part


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not automation, not for pharma, certainly.


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
But when you do crap like that, you externalize costs and hurt the country.


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
the economy is worse today than in the 50s because rich people decided poor people didn't need wages


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
no wage!


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
only spend!


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
the 50's had a 91% tax rate on the wealthy


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Automation is merely a part of what it's doing.


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They are *obligated* to increase their profits. Not just profit consistently. But increase the amount of profit


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
this happened in the mid 60s


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
also the rest of the world was recovering from being bombed


[06-Apr-19 08:55 AM] byte[]#2610
worker productivity has steadily increased


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
wages have stayed exactly the same in real terms


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Honahue#0656
America was basically untouched so our factories just needed bodies which there was a lot of


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, that 91% tax rate had an awful lot of loopholes so it was more like 60% but that's *still* higher than the rates today


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
the actual tax rate was more like 50% due to built-in loopholes, but tax havens didn't become a thing until later, so they couldn't just avoid pretty much all taxes


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
walmart broke the back of wage stagnation by making it so people didn't need to pay more for things


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
because they could undercut their competition by buying cheap shit from china


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a vicious cycle


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Honahue#0656
still it's 30% today and like in the teens or less effecitvely


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
you pay employees less


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav less to spend


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but your products are cheaper


[06-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually, all their wage goes to rent, a tiny sliver to food


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
effective tax rate has gone from 50% to 15%


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and none to savings


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's renting and barely scraping by


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
medical emergency = bankrupt


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
and lots of tax havens to avoid that miniscule amount to begin with


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And welfare doesn't help


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not that savings make any difference now because savings accounts for people without a platinum card have an interest rate of 0 point bupkis percent


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the money funnels to landlords and retailers


[06-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
and a lot of stuff wouldn't even need a tax increas Medicare is already more expensive than anyone elses universal healthcare


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
Eeehhhh


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No seriously


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
My landlord is actually pretty poor and just scraping by.


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the amount we spend on medicare, per person (considering all people in the US)


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
is about the same as other countries' universal healthcare.


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that a dude in oregon had to move out within a month after his landlord arbitrarily increased his rent 130%


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare is fukked.


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
for literally no reason


[06-Apr-19 08:58 AM] byte[]#2610
"My landlord is actually pretty poor and just scraping by." this is the same argument as "it's cold this winter so climate change probably isn't real"


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, no


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your landlord is probably not representative.


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying it's not really fair to say ```Princess Luna (Nebbie) Today at 12:57 AM
All the money funnels to landlords and retailers```


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/us/oregon-rent-control-bill.html

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By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/us/oregon-rent-control-bill.html
Is Your Rent Through the Roof? Oregon Wants to Fix That
Oregon is expected to enact the nation’s first statewide rent control law, in response to rapidly rising housing costs. Other states are watching closely.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/02/26/us/26rentcontrol-01-print/26rentcontrol-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it does


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
>Andy Mangels had been living in his modest apartment near downtown Portland, Ore., for three decades when the news arrived a few days before Christmas: His rent was being raised by 113 percent.


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just not every landlord gets an equal slice of that pie


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, it was 113%


[06-Apr-19 08:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See also: redlining


[06-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
oregon actually passed the cap too


[06-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's more like, if you make a racist statement, it's not really fair to apply it to a race...


[06-Apr-19 09:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
chances are good if you look around, you're living in what is (or was) a redlined area


[06-Apr-19 09:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so yeah, racism


[06-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
>Updated, Feb. 28, 2019: Gov. Kate Brown signed rent control legislation on Thursday, making Oregon the first state to cap how much landlords can raise rent.


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does "not every landlord gets an exorbitant cut of the overall exorbitant pile of money they overall are getting" hav to do with race?


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are race and being a landlord comparable?


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even if they are, how are they in this regard?


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because it's applying something negative to people who don't deserve it.


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's bullshit


[06-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think I get what your problem is


[06-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hear "problem exists" as "these people who are being given too much by the problem are evil and should be hung"


[06-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then you insist the problem doesn't exist to protect them


[06-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've had this theme the whole time


[06-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, do you require someone to blame whenever there's a problem?


[06-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not good to be in denial about problems just because you'd hav to blame someone.


[06-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, I'm just annoyed that people naturally almost always assign blame.


[06-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I *wasn't* assigning blame


[06-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You were assuming an assignation that didn't exist.


[06-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well ```Princess Luna (Nebbie) Today at 12:57 AM
All the money funnels to landlords and retailers``` sure sounds kinda like it. Why is it relevant, if that's not the purpose of this statement?


[06-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The purpose is to point out that there's an improper aspect of the system changing where money lies


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being drawn away from consumers and towards particular kinds of businesses


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
that says "landlords and retailers", not "all landlords and retailers"


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
creating wealth inequality that is highly bad for society


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't *matter* how much money landlords or retailers hav in and of itself


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
or whether a particular one is the one being evil


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
like I said hours ago, nobody gives a shit if you have a billion dollars, just as long as that billion dollars doesn't come at the expense of a million other people


[06-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
what matters is that the poor are left destitute, often homeless, and then create societal issues


[06-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you brought the poor up to good standards of living, there's also an additional problem in wealth inequality intrinsically


[06-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
~~some people think having a billion dollars does mean that inherently~~


[06-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes the poor take more risks due to wanting more to be wealthy


[06-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those extra risks reduce their lifespans and ultimately their money


[06-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
creating a vicious cycle


[06-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what's going on in the US right now.


[06-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
```there's also an additional problem in wealth inequality intrinsically``` I'm not so sure about that. I'd take it if it means everyone's standards go up. And that has been the case. Looking worldwide more generally, absolute global poverty has been going down faster than ever before in history, and is at its lowest.


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
what?


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
no it isn't


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty
Extreme poverty
Extreme poverty, abject poverty, absolute poverty, destitution, or penury, was originally defined by the United Nations (UN) in 1995 as "a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, s...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg/1200px-World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg.png


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"global"


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What about the standard of living in the US specifically


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
the poorest 3,800,000,000 of the planet got 15% poorer last year


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
the richest 200 got 11% richer


[06-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg/1280px-World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg.png

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg/1280px-World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg/1280px-World-population-in-extreme-poverty-absolute.svg.png


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extreme poverty is based on absolute standards of living


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
And yet, we are at the lowest level of global absolute poverty in recorded history.


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
not on wealth inequality, to my understanding.


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yep


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute poverty and relative poverty aren't the same thing


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav different effects


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm talking about absolute poverty.


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both are bad


[06-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
They are, indeed, different things.


[06-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Starscraper#9753
But I'd say absolute poverty matters a lot more.


[06-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it does


[06-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's being reduced in third world countries, mostly


[06-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but increased here in the US


[06-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because our relative poverty is starting to get so bad it's eating away at the absolute


[06-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/15/america-extreme-poverty-un-special-rapporteur

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/15/america-extreme-poverty-un-special-rapporteur
A journey through a land of extreme poverty: welcome to America
The UN’s Philip Alston is an expert on deprivation – and he wants to know why 41m Americans are living in poverty. The Guardian joined him on a special two-week mission into the dark heart of the world’s richest nation
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d489e8823ebcd76e784e66fb602279daeeba9d27/0_274_5184_3110/master/5184.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=8afbc074ccaa22d3db23f3fa73933459


[06-Apr-19 09:13 AM] byte[]#2610
This is America

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[06-Apr-19 09:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> richest nation in the world


[06-Apr-19 09:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> 41 million people living in poverty


[06-Apr-19 09:14 AM] byte[]#2610
that's about 12%


[06-Apr-19 09:14 AM] byte[]#2610
you ever think about how that's kind of a problem


[06-Apr-19 09:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/VYOjWnS4cMY

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Childish Gambino - This Is America (Official Video)
“This is America” by Childish Gambino http://smarturl.it/TcIgA Director: Hiro Murai Producer: Jason Cole of Doomsday with Ibra Ake and Fam Rothstein of Wolf ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VYOjWnS4cMY/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Apr-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
1/3rd of americans are one paycheck away from homelessness


[06-Apr-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@baxleyjames/the-homeless-are-lazy-bums-so-i-used-to-think-f911dedc4cc5

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https://medium.com/@baxleyjames/the-homeless-are-lazy-bums-so-i-used-to-think-f911dedc4cc5
1 out of 3 Americans are 1 Paycheck away from being Homeless
You see these people everyday: the homeless man with the shopping cart piled high with who-knows-what, the man who’s panhandling on the…
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*VBsQTopyuOTxeV0howhZPA.jpeg


[06-Apr-19 09:18 AM] byte[]#2610
The police are poverty enforcement agencies


[06-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hey, remember when Trump denied millions of people 2 paychekks in a row?


[06-Apr-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how many people went homeless from that


[06-Apr-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to hold the whole nation hostage to get what he wanted politically?


[06-Apr-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pepperidge Farm remembers.


[06-Apr-19 09:23 AM] Starscraper#9753
Takes 2 to tango.


[06-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/4ZdHoeA/comment/1624335517>


[06-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
>Finding it hard to believe the whole “money doesn’t buy happiness” thing right now


[06-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
>Financial security is definitely happiness. Chronic anxiety from not making ends meet is soul crushing.


[06-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
>They've done studies on this. That last part is huge. Once people have enough for their needs, income has a poor correlation with reported levels of happiness. I wish I had the link, but I'm sure Google can help someone less lazy than I.


[06-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Starscraper that's fukking BS


[06-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The deal Trump agreed to was the one Democrats put forward several weeks before he agreed to it


[06-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which was the common sense solution of funding the gov't and putting off border wall bullshit


[06-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are not responsible for holding the country hostage


[06-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had the moral fortitude to not negotiate with terrorists.


[06-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
NEVER


[06-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
ever


[06-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukking say that someone who held something hostage to get their way


[06-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
is just as responsible as the guys who were saying to release the hostage and walk away.


[06-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is fukking moral bullshit.


[06-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of the highest order.


[06-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not a moral failing to refuse to negotiate when someone is starving people to get something from you that'll hurt even more people.


[06-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump should be killed.


[06-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
FBI OPEN UP


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party has abandoned its moral principles.


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a party of hatred now.


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
It never had moral principles


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Run by a man who operates on spite and idiocy


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Only immoral principles


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and actually fukking starves people to get his way.


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Now it doesn't even have principles


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, the republican party used to be socially progressive


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't always like it is today


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about before the dixiecrat switch


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's only the past 50 years or so that they've transformed into what they are today


[06-Apr-19 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm talking modern GOP


[06-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the past 20 where they became extreme


[06-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
it started back with eisenhower


[06-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
he deported like 1.2 million hispanics to mexico, with the lowest estimate of 20% of those deportations being legal residents and citizens


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
Holy crap


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
How long have you guys been in this echo chamber?


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
When was the last time you saw the sun?


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Lmao


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
```It is a party of hatred now.```


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you seriously think


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
>negotiating with terrorists


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is okay to starve people


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation

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The Largest Mass Deportation in American History
As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign.
https://www.history.com/.image/t_share/MTU3ODc4NTk4NjgyNjE3MTYx/mexican-illegal-immigrants-arrested-1950s-photo-by-keystone-francegamma-keystone-via-getty-images-2.jpg


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to refuse asylum to others?


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you think this?


[06-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would it ever be okay to starve people to get your way?


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
Do you seriously think it's okay to let gorillions of people die because they couldn't afford their premiums that shot up after Obamacare passed?


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Premiums didn't go up because of Obamacare


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
The president not signing something into law


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
But "gorillions" of people didn't die because of obamacare passing


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
Is built into our system


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It in fact contained measures keeping them low


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not a hostage situation


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's literally how the system was made.


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The percent of people without insurance went down


[06-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
how WHAT system was made?


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why the fukk is starving people okay because of some system?


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
Wtf are you talking about?


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Government employees


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The government shutdown


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Not getting paid


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm talking about the shutdown because Trump refused to sign the budget.


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
People need to fukking eat


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Trump's own officials were putting out advice that was *illegal to do*


[06-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
There's as much reason to say Trump was holding them hostage as to say the Dems were.


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat the fukk


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] byte[]#2610
No there isn't


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
dude


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
trump kicked out all the people who told him shit was illegal


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
There kinda is


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump out of the blue


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
decided that if the wall wasn't funded


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would not approve the budget


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
how the FUKK are dems responsible for that?


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] byte[]#2610
The Democrats do not starve people to meme about policy


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
By NOT funding a wall?


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
that's where the terrorist analogy comes from


[06-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I hold a gun to your head


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
They're both threatening the same thing, though.


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you won't giv me something


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
terrorists put a gun to someone's head and say "if you don't do what I want you to do, I'll shoot this guy"


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're equally responsible, right?


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
For not giving me it?


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Shooting someone in the head is not effing the same as not signing some legislation into law.


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just SOME LEGISLATION


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
It might as well have been


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be a quicker death


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
People will still die when they don't eat


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's the budget


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally making sure the gov't doesn't throw a ton of people out onto the streets


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
They negotiate over it


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Even if not by gunshot wound


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's what they do


[06-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it okay if I sign a bill that shoots you instead of pull the trigger?


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
When they negotiate the budget there's always an implicit threat that they won't vote it if their demands aren't met.


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because he wasn't signing a bill to shoot people.


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does that make it okay to starve people?


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY THE FUKK


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
He was _not_ signing a budget.


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
is it SUDDENLY OKAY to starve people?


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav not proven this at all.


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's not the same as throwing people into a gulag and starving them.


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it hav to be a gulag?


[06-Apr-19 09:37 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't need to put them in a gulag at all


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] byte[]#2610
all you need to do is not give them money for food


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] byte[]#2610
they die either way


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does forcing people to work without pay when NOT in Siberia become a good thing?


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk?


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah, all the Dems needed to do was include budget apportionment for the wall. They're just as responsible. They were part of the negotiation. That's how government works.


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they fukking aren't


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's how the government works, man.


[06-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
I dunno what to say.


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
They negotiate a budget


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're holding the victims of a hostage negotiation responsible for the hostage-taking


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
President signs it into law


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not law until he signs it.


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't CARE how the gov't fukking works


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
starving people isn't okay just because it's how the gov't works


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not a hostage situation until he takes a rifle into the Chamber and holds people hostage.


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
holding people hostage isn't fukking okay just because it's how the gov't works


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not true


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will NEVER convince me otherwise.


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
It absolutely is a hostage situation


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the real world effects are just as dire


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
You just don't treat them that way


[06-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
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Princess Luna (Nebbie) Today at 1:39 AM
You will NEVER convince me otherwise.``` Sure, but it wasn't a hostage situation.


[06-Apr-19 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
It was


[06-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not arguing with you any more.


[06-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Period.


[06-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean... I dunno how to explain it any simpler.

The various political parties negotiate on a budget that they all agree on. Throughout the entire period, there's always the implicit threat that they won't vote to pass it _or_ sign it if their demands aren't met. That's just how legislation works in the federal government.


[06-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[06-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
If anyone has something they won't budge on, then the others have to include or disclude it and they arrive at a consensus.


[06-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither side was willing to budge on the issue so we got what we did.


[06-Apr-19 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
say for the sake of argument that I'm the president, and I say that I will not sign the next funding package for the government unless the legislature includes a provision that at least 1 million babies must be killed every year


[06-Apr-19 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
my party then refuses to even hold a vote on legislation until the other side concedes


[06-Apr-19 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what happened here


[06-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Building a wall isn't killing a million babies every year. ~~That's abortion~~


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Imagine it's some point you don't care about.


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
That makes it easier to see from an unbiased perspective


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to care about it


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Imagine they're fiercely debating what font their documents should be written in.


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte, here's how to do it properly


[06-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say for the sake of argument I'm the president


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I say that all documents should be in Comic Sans


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I do not get this


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 million babies will be killed


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
by refusing to fund healthcare for babies, ever


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is this okay?


[06-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the wall was a completely ridiculous thing to shut down the government over


[06-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
and the instigator of the shutdown wasn't the democrats


[06-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
that's the whole point


[06-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like I said, takes 2 to tango. He offers another deal and they didn't accept it just as much as they offered a deal and he didn't accept it.


[06-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
IF you want to talk about the wall itself, talk about the wall.


[06-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
If you want to talk about the shutdown, talk about the shutdown.


[06-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so Democrats are responsible for killing 1 million babies


[06-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they didn't turn the documents to Comic Sans


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
right?


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Wtf?


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
this is known as victim blaming


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's my hypothetical


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Also no


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Both sides were offered a document


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Party A says it will defund children's healthcare


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
If either side signed the document, it would've ended.


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither side did.


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless Party B givs it Comic Sans on all documents


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is Party B equally responsible for killing 1 million babies?


[06-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail

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Blackmail is an act of coercion using the threat of revealing or publicizing either substantially true or false, and often damaging, information about a person, to the public, family members, or associates unless certain demands are met. It may involve using threats of physic...


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, it's extortion crow


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakkmail is more specific.


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, extortion


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
I forgot what the general version was


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion
Extortion
Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from an individual or institution, through coercion. It is sometimes euphemistically referred to as a "protection racket" since the racketeers often ph...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Loot_and_Extortion_-_geograph.org.uk_-_88390.jpg


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
And the Dems did the exact same thing with his proposed revisions.


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So is Party B responsible?


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither side signed.


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equally to Party A


[06-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
for killing 1 million babies


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Remove the Comic Sans and baby killing BS and you can see it clearly


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm not even sure what those are supposed to be.


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm asking you


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Group A and Group B both have to agree to avoid the shutdown.


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither group agreed.


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Shutdown happened.


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you're saying if someone extorts someone else


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither signed the document offered by the other.


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The extorted is responsible for not giving in


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right?


[06-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, because one group has power over the other.


[06-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I threaten to withhold funds to pay for the neighbor's puppy's cancer treatment


[06-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless you giv me equal use of the bedroom


[06-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're responsible as much as me for that puppy dying of cancer, right?


[06-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause we couldn't come to a bedroom agreement.


[06-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which resulted in the puppy dying of cancer.


[06-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's not at all the same. It was the appropriation of budget. They didn't want to appropriate a budget to something they were against. Comparing it to an absurd, different situation does not make it that absurd, different situation.


[06-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't answer the question.


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we both responsible for the puppy dying of cancer?


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we in equal amounts responsible?


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
You would be asking for something unreasonable you should not be asking for, and is not rightly within your power.


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
what


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
For an equal part of my bedroom?


[06-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
I'm facepalming so hard rn


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
What makes one thing reasonable and another not?


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
The fact that one is literally built into how the government works?


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's how it's meant to function.


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
The president signs things into law.


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're mixing up parts of the comparison


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
Didn't know that?


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equal use of the bedroom is the wall


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the process


[06-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The process here would be a negotation of a roommate agreement


[06-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think like, Big Bang Theory and Sheldon


[06-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yes, but your comparison fails because it's not something you should rightly be asking for.


[06-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheldon says that if Howard doesn't agree to a new roommate agreement


[06-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheldon will exercise his right to not pay for the surgery to save Amy's dog


[06-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is Howard responsible for Amy's dog dying?


[06-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically


[06-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
a roommate agreement with a special couch


[06-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that discriminates against asians


[06-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm not sure that comparison holds very well, but it's kinda nebulous. It depends on how reasonable the offer was, and even then not entirely.


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
See, your point is constantly resting on the argument that the Wall is unreasonable.


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
My argument is that what Trump is asking for **doesn't matter**


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could be asking for a glass of lemonade


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Starving people for it isn't okay


[06-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Democrats aren't at fault for denying him the glass of lemonade


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not entirely, no.


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are saying they'd be equally at fault


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
for starving people


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
Equally at fault for the shutdown.


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they did the immoral act of denying him the glass of lemonade


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The shutdown is the starvation of people


[06-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the two cannot be disentangled


[06-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Starscraper#9753
He didn't sign their budget, they didn't sign his.

Literally every year Congress negotiates a budget, they always carry the implicit threat that if each congressman's requests are not meant, they won't vote for it.


[06-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Starscraper#9753
The only unusual thing about what happened is how long it went on for.


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same BS that doesn't address the argument


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're saying that just because the method of hostage-taking is a process that happens regularly


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
Lol


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not taking hostages


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
that people are equally at fault for taking hostages as for not agreeing to demands


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's negotiating a budget


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
Don't you know the difference?


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The difference here is morally irrelevant.


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] byte[]#2610
You're saying it's about the process


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, it's not.


[06-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The effects are equivalent.


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Where the process is leading to people fucking dying


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] byte[]#2610
But it's okay, because it's the process


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Fuck the process


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not okay


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
I didn't say people dying were okay, good god.


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say it's not okay


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then you say Democrats are at fault


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
This is why you need people you disagree with to talk to you, otherwise you think they like people starving


[06-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not entirely at fault, no.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You continuously imply that Republicans are correct in starving people


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
in causing people to die


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it's just the process


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
that both are equally at fault


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying the Democrats did it, too.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Both sides did it.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Neither side agreed to the other's budget.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] byte[]#2610
that both are equally at fault


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're BSABSVR


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're fukking BSABSVR as a person


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
what a meme


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Every year both sides negotiate a budget.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's pretty simple.


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't matter


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care what they do every year


[06-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
And this year, they didn't agree in time.


[06-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans used a yearly process to extort


[06-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats had every reason to not giv in to their demands.


[06-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[06-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
Dems used government shut down to extort the Reps to giving up their thing.

Reps could've just as easily never offered a budget with Obamacare when Obama was in office.


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
It goes both ways


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] byte[]#2610
whataboutism


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're saying Dems did the extorting


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they argued to just fund things and talk the wall later


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That Dems didn't say to drop the wall entirely


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they said


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
discuss it after the budget


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress can approve funding for stuff at any time


[06-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't hav to be in the main budget


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
you're comparing increasing healthcare availability (which SAVES LIVES btw) to a useless fucking construction project that won't even be structurally sound according to engineers who have inspected the design plans for different wall types


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems *didn't* ask Republicans to giv up their thing


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They literally asked


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
for just not starving people for it


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Trump said this was unacceptable


[06-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
after several weeks, he changed his mind


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well yeah, he had to cave to the Dems who refused to sign his offer.


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, it goes both ways.


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it doesn't


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
And it's not extortion because both sides are holding the other just as hostage.


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems were holding nothing hostage


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah they were, the country.


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
The paychecks.


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They literally offered to just sign a regular budget and discuss the wall later


[06-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, actually discuss it


[06-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
I think they showed just how willing they were to actually discuss it.


[06-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were not going to harm anything if what they asked for wasn't given.


[06-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
the sad part is that construction on the wall might already be finalized by now if trump hadn't forced the shutdown


[06-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
instead of being forced to go around congress with a fake emergency


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So again


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheldon and Howard


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do a new agreement every year, let's say


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This normally covers keeping Amy's dog alive


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheldon now says that this year, he wants a pony


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
if he doesn't get a free pony every 6 months from Howard


[06-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
the wall plans were not designed by engineers, but by companies looking to maximize profit (maintaining the wall itself would cost more than  it cost to build the wall to begin with over the course of 15 years)


[06-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
he will not agree to the roommate agreement


[06-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Amy's dog will die


[06-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Starscraper So Howard is responsible for extorting Sheldon, right?


[06-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he's using Amy's dog dying to postpone whether to giv Sheldon a pony or not to next week, after the agreement would be signed.


[06-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right?


[06-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure it costs more than a pony to make sure a dog doesn't die from cancer


[06-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[06-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://i.redd.it/wzdr27uu9fc21.jpg

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https://i.redd.it/wzdr27uu9fc21.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Starscraper#9753
So, actually


[06-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Starscraper#9753
It looks like GOP tried to stop the "starvation" part of it


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
But Dems rejected it.


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
Thrice.


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
who the fuck is this talking head


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] byte[]#2610
what did they vote on


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
oh, he's a representative


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] byte[]#2610
is he talking about votes on bills including funding for a wall?


[06-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
probably


[06-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/verify/verify-did-house-democrats-vote-down-federal-employee-pay-during-shutdown/285-c000e029-8960-4057-a57e-6f43afbb0859

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Verify: Did House Democrats vote down federal employee pay during ...
The vote concerned House Joint Resolution 28, which would re-open the government through Feb. 28.
https://media.khou.com/assets/KHOU/images/559e5deb-3239-4579-add1-36d78de8304e/559e5deb-3239-4579-add1-36d78de8304e_1140x641.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing they were voting against were funding bills which included wall funding


[06-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
Nope


[06-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
Just to keep from starving


[06-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
Dems said "all or nothing"


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
```“My resolution will allow employees to get the paychecks they recently missed,” said Rep. Granger during a hearing on the measure. “It provides relief for some employees while we wait for Democrats to come to the negotiating table. We need to start working on legislation that can be enacted into law.”

Immediately afterwards, Rep. Nita M. Lowey (D-New York) spoke out against the amendment because it wouldn’t end the shutdown, arguing for H.R. 28 to stay as-is.

“This (continued resolution) would pay employees,” Rep. Lowey testified. “The order of business is very simple: reopen the government, pay federal employees, and then negotiate on border security and immigration policy.”```


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
So uh, sorry


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
The whole "let's discuss the wall later and keep people from starving"


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Is _not_ what the _Dems_ were saying.


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Shall I look up the other 2 bills or have I made my point?


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Glad you made me research this, though.


[06-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Before I thought they shared equal blame, but now I see the Dems are mostly responsible.


[06-Apr-19 10:17 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ohhey another source https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425858-house-rejects-gop-measure-to-pay-workers-but-not-open-government

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House rejects GOP measure to pay workers but not open government
The House rejected a GOP measure to pay furloughed workers but keep the government closed in a 222-195 vote.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/shutdown_rally_011019sr_lead_1.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
oh, you're talking about the bill that guarantees backpay


[06-Apr-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that passed


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/congress-approves-backpay-federal-workers-government-shutdown_n_5c38ece7e4b0922a21d4c2d9

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/congress-approves-backpay-federal-workers-government-shutdown_n_5c38ece7e4b0922a21d4c2d9
Congress Approves Backpay For Federal Workers Affected By Governme...
President Donald Trump still needs to sign the legislation, but it's looking like federal workers will eventually get any paychecks they've missed.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c38eda224000032004861c4.jpeg?cache=kcifsvvskx&ops=1910_1000


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm talking about the bill that failed the House on Jan. 17th.


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was something else


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems introduced another bill in the House


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would just end the shutdown altogether


[06-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
the bill you linked specifically moves the voting date up from february to january, but it still included the wall


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the blame here is being placed on Dems for not also voting on a bill that'd keep the shutdown but pay the federal employees


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
```CrowToday at 2:19 AM
the bill you linked specifically moves the voting date up from february to january, but it still included the wall``` source?


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because I provided 2.


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
And I don't know if I believe this claim.


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Dems took the better of 2 solutions cause they controlled the House


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the Senate said no, a lot.


[06-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Crow#5457
>In this case, Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas) wanted to change the bill’s date from Feb. 28 to Jan. 15.


[06-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
literally the 6th line


[06-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure how you expect Dems to improve things by taking the shittier solution alongside the better one


[06-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/roll046.xml


[06-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Mikey#7286
what's the point of discussing something from 3 months ago that is now irrelevant?


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it's absolutely relevant


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
```“My resolution will allow employees to get the paychecks they recently missed,” said Rep. Granger during a hearing on the measure. “It provides relief for some employees while we wait for Democrats to come to the negotiating table. We need to start working on legislation that can be enacted into law.”```


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
No wall in sight


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
Just a bill to keep them paid.


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
that's a dude saying his bill is good, not the actual text of whatever he was advocating for


[06-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's not a single person alive who would introduce an amendment and then speak bad of it


[06-Apr-19 10:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Orange man in chief took the country for a ride to get an imaginary solution to a nonexistent problem


[06-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
this is what granger introduced https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hjres28/BILLS-116hjres28eh.pdf


[06-Apr-19 10:23 AM] byte[]#2610
did it by threat of veto power, because congress can't do their fucking job


[06-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
literally moving up the voting date


[06-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
on the appropriations act of 2019


[06-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, it's not.


[06-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
That one passed the House.


[06-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
It says so in the 3 pages you linked.


[06-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
```House rejects GOP measure to pay workers but not open government```


[06-Apr-19 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
then why the fuck is it what's linked on that article then?


[06-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Starscraper#9753
lol, wait... Yeah.

But why does it say `Passed the House of Representatives January 23,
2019. ` ?


[06-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
>Rep. Granger’s amendment failed, and on Jan. 23, the House passed H.R. 28 with Feb. 28 as the date.


[06-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
literally


[06-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
his amendment is "change the date we do the final vote"


[06-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/437672-new-york-man-arrested-for-allegedly-making-death-threats

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New York man arrested for allegedly making death threats against Omar
A New York man was arrested Friday for allegedly making death threats against Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/omarilhan_031219gn3_lead.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't know if that's accurate.

```Immediately afterwards, Rep. Nita M. Lowey (D-New York) spoke out against the amendment because it wouldn’t end the shutdown, arguing for H.R. 28 to stay as-is.``` Odd thing to argue if it would end the shutdown.

```“This (continued resolution) would pay employees,” Rep. Lowey testified. “The order of business is very simple: reopen the government, pay federal employees, and then negotiate on border security and immigration policy.”

Rep. Granger’s amendment failed, and on Jan. 23, the House passed H.R. 28 with Feb. 28 as the date.

KHOU can verify most Democrats voted against giving federal employees their recently missed paychecks while the shutdown continues. However, in that same bill, all but one Democrat eventually voted to pay federal employees and reopen the government through Feb. 28.```


[06-Apr-19 10:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
```byte[]Today at 2:23 AM
Orange man in chief took the country for a ride to get an imaginary solution to a nonexistent problem
did it by threat of veto power, because congress can't do their fucking job``` Except I've provided sources showing that that's not true. So...


[06-Apr-19 10:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine if


[06-Apr-19 10:36 AM] byte[]#2610
congress didn't have to reauthorize funding for essential services every year


[06-Apr-19 10:36 AM] byte[]#2610
i.e.


[06-Apr-19 10:36 AM] byte[]#2610
do their job


[06-Apr-19 10:36 AM] byte[]#2610
there would have been no political hostage-taking possible. at all.


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/05/us-to-designate-elite-iranian-force-as-terrorist-organization.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/05/us-to-designate-elite-iranian-force-as-terrorist-organization.html
US to designate elite Iranian force as terrorist organization
The move marks the first time Washington formally labels another country's military a terrorist group.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2012/11/16/100221516-revolutionary_guard_iran_gettyp.1910x1000.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
the EU


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
labelled the US navy SEALs


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
a terrorist organization


[06-Apr-19 10:37 AM] byte[]#2610
they should label the DEA that


[06-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, I wonder what their reasons are/were.


[06-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Honahue#0656
Or the ATF


[06-Apr-19 10:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/04/04/157-republicans-and-1-democrat-side-nra-house-passes-updated-violence-against-women

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157 Republicans, and 1 Democrat, Side With NRA as House Passes Upd...
A new provision in the legislation, which still needs Senate approval, would make it harder for abusers to acquire guns
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/gettyimages-1471611581.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Man that's gonna suck for 40% of cops


[06-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
>The vast majority of House Republicans caved to pressure from the gun lobby on Thursday and refused to back Democrats' successful effort to extend the Violence Against Women Act for five years because of a new provision that would make it harder for abusers to acquire guns.


[06-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Crow#5457
god, I'd really fucking hate to be the party who would have to vote against that


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] byte[]#2610
just use the standard GOP strategy


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] byte[]#2610
lie


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] byte[]#2610
misdirect


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] byte[]#2610
_But you are lynching negros_


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] byte[]#2610
all the usual


[06-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
Actually that was Dems that founded the KKK, and Reps that ended slavery >.>


[06-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
You can argue the parties went 180, sure.


[06-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
But you can't say the GOP lynched blacks.


[06-Apr-19 10:49 AM] byte[]#2610
modern one has a ton of supporters who'd love to


[06-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't think so.


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] byte[]#2610
idk, have you seen 4chan lately


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] byte[]#2610
>trumptrumptrumptrump


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] byte[]#2610
But also


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] byte[]#2610
>fucking nigger scum kill them all


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
lol


[06-Apr-19 10:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
4chan is 4chan.


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] byte[]#2610
4chan is the modern GOP


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not really


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
4chan is the modern GOP if you're strawmanning the GOP >.>


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] byte[]#2610
4chan says what the rest of them think


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm impressed at your mind-reading ability.


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
Please tell me where I can acquire it.


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Me too


[06-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Honahue#0656
There was the NZ guy


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/10/steve-king-white-supremacy-congress-1077665

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Steve King under fire after embrace of white supremacy
Rep. Steve King’s language has taken aim at Latinos, Asians and African-Americans in the past, and many Republicans appear to be done defending him.
https://static.politico.com/8a/94/c1c0733846d7900f7622eade2248/191010-steve-king-ap-773.jpg


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah? What about him?


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's almost like it's obvious or something


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Manifesto was basically 4chan memes an /pol/ talking points


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
The meme shooter


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
You realize you're playing right into what he wanted, though, right?


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Killed 50 people


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
His entire goal was just to cause division and strife.


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
So if you think most GOP are anything like him, grats.


[06-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's exactly what he wanted.


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh no, certainly they won't actually shoot people


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Honahue#0656
I was already against anyone that would do that


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] byte[]#2610
They'll just pass laws that disproportionately affect poor black men


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
>(from january 2019) Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) faces a potential censure motion from congressional Democrats and splintering support among Republicans after using racist language in a New York Times interview, questioning when the terms “white nationalist, white supremacist and western civilization” became “offensive.”


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
>“white nationalist, white supremacist and western civilization”


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
one of these is not like the others


[06-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
I know a lot of very conservative people. They're not all secret Klansmen. They actually believe what they say. Go figure.


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Like Florida's recent move to force felons to pay outstanding court fees to vote


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Crow#5457
there is at least one semi-open racist in the republican party, his name's steve king


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] byte[]#2610
That is a move to prevent black people from voting


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure the NZ guy meant what he said


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Not _de jure_


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] byte[]#2610
But _de facto_


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
Woah, Byte


[06-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
Are you implying blacks are felons? That's racist.


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Hardly


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, less facetiously...


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
Conservatives try to be colorblind.


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
There really honestly is little regard for race.


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
Honestly there's little care at all.


[06-Apr-19 10:56 AM] byte[]#2610
1- Black men do commit more crimes
2- The system disprortionately targets them
3- Because of that system disproportionately targeting them they see the worst of our sentencing laws


[06-Apr-19 10:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
So maybe the Dems are trying to block that gun law because they hate blacks, then?


[06-Apr-19 10:57 AM] byte[]#2610
No. There's a ton of regard for it. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there.


[06-Apr-19 10:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because I'm pretty sure that law would disproportionately effect blacks.


[06-Apr-19 10:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Technically Repubs instituted gun laws cause they hate blavks


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Crow#5457
blacks with guns get shot disproportionately by police


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] byte[]#2610
You're doing the thing again where you say that because we have a process we should respect the results of the process


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Even when the results of the process are utterly fucking reprehensible


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes you are


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Crow#5457
reagan was the champion of gun control during his time as governor of california... because the black panthers had guns


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying it's absurd to say that they're doing it on a racial basis, just because it might disproportionately effect blacks.


[06-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Crow#5457
so if you wonder why california is so tough on gun control, look to reagan


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] byte[]#2610
No, it is _absolutely_ why they're doing it


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
You can say that about _any_ law that negatively impacts criminals, including that gun law.


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] byte[]#2610
There is basically no other population that it would affect


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
It becomes confirmation bias ad absurdum.


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
Holy shiz


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
So now you're saying that _only_ blacks are felons with outstanding court charges.


[06-Apr-19 10:59 AM] byte[]#2610
In Florida? Yeah, pretty much


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't even agree with the law, but I think you're being both paranoid and racist to think things like that.


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Keeping abusers from having guns would also make most cops have to disarm


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Well not most


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
Plenty of white people who are felons with outstanding fees, too.


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
A lot


[06-Apr-19 11:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Almost half


[06-Apr-19 11:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Ah yes I see it is now racist to identify and label racially motivated policies


[06-Apr-19 11:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, to say _every single_ felon with outstanding court fees is black, it kinda is.


[06-Apr-19 11:02 AM] Crow#5457
at what point does the well go from being poisoned to literally just being a pool of toxic waste


[06-Apr-19 11:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm sure there's plenty of whites and other minorities in that place.


[06-Apr-19 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Clearly I have no sense of hyperbole


[06-Apr-19 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
And I literally mean exactly that 100% of felons in Florida are black


[06-Apr-19 11:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
```So now you're saying that only blacks are felons with outstanding court charges.

byte[]Today at 2:59 AM
In Florida? Yeah, pretty much``` I did ask for clarification. I guess I should've given "pretty much" a more generous interpretation.


[06-Apr-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
the sarcasm has been lost in transit


[06-Apr-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
woooooosh


[06-Apr-19 11:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
I still don't see you saying that Dems secretly hate blacks and are passing a racist law with the gun thing, though, since that _would_ disproportionately effect blacks.


[06-Apr-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/politics/trump-sanctions-venezuela-cuba.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/politics/trump-sanctions-venezuela-cuba.html
New U.S. Sanctions Seek to Block Venezuelan Oil Shipments to Cuba
The sanctions, senior administration officials said, could force a “recalibration” of Venezuela’s relationship with Cuba, which has been defending the government of President Nicolás Maduro.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/05/us/05dc-sanctions/05dc-sanctions-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Apr-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
yummy oil yum yum yum

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[06-Apr-19 11:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Which one


[06-Apr-19 11:05 AM] byte[]#2610
The Violence Against Women one?


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yup.


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Your reasoning is that since criminals are more predominantly black, the Florida law against criminals is a racial one.


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Right?


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Exact same applies to that one.


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Except it doesn't


[06-Apr-19 11:06 AM] byte[]#2610
In order to participate in a democracy you need to vote


[06-Apr-19 11:07 AM] byte[]#2610
You don't need a fucking gun to live in a democratic nation


[06-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, you just need a working gun, not a "fucking gun".


[06-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
But you don't "need" it, depending on your definition of "need".


[06-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Honahue#0656
You need a working gun for democracy?


[06-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
This gets well into arguments I'm not wanting to get into, though, not at 3am.


[06-Apr-19 11:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not after wasting so many freaking hours here already :q


[06-Apr-19 11:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Shit how did the Greeks manage before gunpowder?


[06-Apr-19 11:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ask the Persians.


[06-Apr-19 11:08 AM] Honahue#0656
They had gun powder in 500bce?


[06-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Persian_invasion_of_Greece

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[06-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
China did. But not Europe, no.


[06-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
greece: Total: 9,000-10,000, ~200 losses
persians: Total: 26,000-28,000, ~6400 losses


[06-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
persia wasn't particularly cost effective, even though they did technically win


[06-Apr-19 11:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure the Chinese did that almost 1500 years later


[06-Apr-19 11:12 AM] Starscraper#9753
7th century China, yeah.


[06-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
and then the second attempt was an abject disaster for the persians


[06-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
Can I just say, though, that I really, really hate that so many people seem to think the GOP is actually the devil or something and not just a political party that has their beliefs? I mean, I've grown up in Bama, been surrounded by conservatives and hardline GOP people my whole life, and I've met only one, _sort of_ "actual" racist.


[06-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
If you want to think a law is motivated by racism based on context rather than content, sure, but I'll start applying similarly sinister motives to the Dems.


[06-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
And sure enough, the country gets more and more divided and things only get worse.


[06-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Honestly if you're worried about Russian agents causing issues in the US, your first concern should be them causing division by exploiting the already existent tensions to weaken the nation.


[06-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Who mentioned Russia?


[06-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure they're happy about it though


[06-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Starscraper#9753
The division and lack of assuming the best of people you disagree with is a national weakness, one that any potential enemies would like to exploit.


[06-Apr-19 11:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know maybe it wouldn't be a problem if the GOP wasn't trying to cut social services


[06-Apr-19 11:18 AM] byte[]#2610
at every step


[06-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Or roll back people's rights


[06-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Starscraper#9753
Social services: They honestly believe it would help the economy by incentivizing work and cutting off a huge tax cost.


[06-Apr-19 11:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Passing laws that put abortion providers out of business


[06-Apr-19 11:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Defunding public schools


[06-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Honahue#0656
incentives work how exactly?


[06-Apr-19 11:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Removing tax credits for lower-earning individuals


[06-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
Disagree with them as you may, at least try to understand that some people actually, just, plain disagree with you, not that they're secretly evil or racist or whatever.


[06-Apr-19 11:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Whether or not the person is is debatable, but the intention of the party is to enforce hierarchy


[06-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
The intention of any political party is to gain and keep power.


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ideally, by doing things that will get votes.


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Right


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Shit system


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] byte[]#2610
The GOP takes that a step further by selling the idea of a conservative social hierarchy


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] byte[]#2610
The Dems do the opposite - progressive social system based on equality


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
```HonahueToday at 3:21 AM
Shit system``` It's the system that comes from first-past-the-post voting.


[06-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like cawmmunist propaganda, but ok


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Honahue#0656
And it's shit


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's a really easy way to fix that


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's called approval voting


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
WE WILL NOT FEAR THE RED MENACE


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
like, really really really easy


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
Single transferrable vote is one I came to understand.


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maine actually pioneered an alternative voting system iirc.


[06-Apr-19 11:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Communism is not a threat to this nation


[06-Apr-19 11:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Nor is socialism or any progressive economic model


[06-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's instant runoff


[06-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
IRV is what maine did


[06-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
approval voting is even simpler


[06-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
and would destroy the two-party system


[06-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's why they went with IRV instead


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
```
Social services: They honestly believe it would help the economy by incentivizing work and cutting off a huge tax cost.
```


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't buy this


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Not for a second


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Starscraper#9753
Lol


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, what can I say?


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
You know what's not a huge tax cost: welfare


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
You know what is one? The fucking military


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Starscraper#9753
Wrong


[06-Apr-19 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I think when it comes to guns or butter we can afford a lot more butter


[06-Apr-19 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Also I'm not sure if you are aware of this but like


[06-Apr-19 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
The military _is_ socialism


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] byte[]#2610
It is a government funded jobs program with free education, with free healthcare, with tons of benefits


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

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In fiscal year 2014, the federal government will spend around $3.8 trillion. These trillions of dollars make up a considerable chunk - around 22 percent - of the US. economy, as measured by Gross Domestic Product (GDP). That means that federal government spending makes up a s...
https://static.nationalpriorities.org/images/npp-logo-30th.jpg


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/total_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png

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[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
Military is only 16%


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's the 16% that retains your ability to spend the other 84%.


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
uh, no it doesn't


[06-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
the US literally has a powerful enough military to take on the entire planet simultaneously


[06-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
like, every other country on the planet could declare war on the US at once


[06-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
and the rest of the planet would lose


[06-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maybe?


[06-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
But ostensibly, the single most fundamental role of the government is to protect its citizens.


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It should protect its citizens from poverty too


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
But military only gets 16%


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Not just foreign attack


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
So


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Honahue#0656
There's like 30 aircraft carriers in the world and 20 of them are the US


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
like the US could subjugate china with like 4 carriers


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's also somewhat a reflection of naval warfighting doctrine.


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Honahue#0656
The us Navy is the second largest air Force in the world


[06-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
and china is the biggest threat to the US military wise


[06-Apr-19 11:30 AM] Starscraper#9753
Other navies focus much more heavily on cruise missile platforms, generally speaking.


[06-Apr-19 11:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Other navies focus on costal defense


[06-Apr-19 11:31 AM] Starscraper#9753
But regardless, it's pretty clear what the biggest pieces of the Federal budget are... https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/total_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png

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[06-Apr-19 11:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Getting back to where we were, there are now also clear results that giving poor people subsistence makes them more productive, not less


[06-Apr-19 11:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is the second reason I don't buy it


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Cutting social services fucks over poor people


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
You believe those studies, but not everyone does. Most people probably don't even know about those studies.


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Hm. I wonder who does that


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh yeah


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Grand old party


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
There's no reason to attribute malice when incompetence will do.


[06-Apr-19 11:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
You'll find the vast majority of things are the result of incompetence, not malice.


[06-Apr-19 11:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
Also, you have to believe you're so incredibly _obviously_ in the right, that not even a flat-Earther would disagree with you, so it _must_ be malice.


[06-Apr-19 11:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
Which is an interesting mindset.


[06-Apr-19 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
So it's an incompetent decision when Congress cuts meal programs for the needy


[06-Apr-19 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a malicious one


[06-Apr-19 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Got it


[06-Apr-19 11:34 AM] byte[]#2610
When they cut funding for abortion providers and family planning services


[06-Apr-19 11:34 AM] Honahue#0656
It's incompetent to ignore studies


[06-Apr-19 11:34 AM] byte[]#2610
When they cut funding for public schools and funnel it into voucher programs


[06-Apr-19 11:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's people who think that's not the appropriate way to help them, who think you need to let those breezies go for their own good, to pull an MLP moral analogy.


[06-Apr-19 11:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Nope, not malicious, just incompetent


[06-Apr-19 11:35 AM] byte[]#2610
So the appropriate way to help the helpless is to leave them alone


[06-Apr-19 11:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Sounds legit


[06-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
But if I were to return your certainty of malicious intent, I'd say the Dems intentionally wanted to make all those federal workers starve when they rejected the GOP's 3 attempts to end the forlough.


[06-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
And yes, it's called not enabling someone and teaching them to stand on their own. There's a mindset that values independence more than it values an easy life.


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Perhaps it's an alien mindset to you, but I've seen it a lot.


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Disabled people should be shot and killed then


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Since they can never be independent


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Holy fuck


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
facts don't care about your feelings (or beliefs, in this case)


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Like


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
You want to support poor people? Well clearly you want to murder anyone who makes 6 digits!


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like, that's what you just did.


[06-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
you don't get to "believe" that something isn't so just because you don't like it


[06-Apr-19 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disabled people make 6 digits?


[06-Apr-19 11:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
That is so absurdly - you know what, it's 330 am, I should go. I'm done.


[06-Apr-19 11:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
If saying that "some people like their independence more than easy money" is something where your response is ```byte[]Today at 3:36 AM
Disabled people should be shot and killed then
Since they can never be independent``` , then you don't really want to understand, do you?


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Honahue#0656
What Independence?


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
No I actually understand the mindset


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
It comes from not giving a shit about anyone else


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite franklyu my family is almost at poverty level, we woudl take a UBI with joy


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Independently take 2 or 3 jobs


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
If you don't consider anyone else's problems, ever, then everything is easy


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Independently become homeless


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's not it at all.


[06-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
Holy shit.


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
You really just want to believe like, half the country are psychopathic monsters, don't you?


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's because you hate them, isn't it?


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yep.


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's called "selfish altruism"


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Clearly you're a psychopath who doesn't give a shit about half the country, so you want to think they're monsters.


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
^ that's what you sound like right now.


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically, do nothing to help your fellow human being unless you personally profit from it


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
No


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
no


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Fuck no


[06-Apr-19 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i's a bit hard not to see the repiublican lawmakers as such when the nroth carolina republicans put an age cap on medicaid so no one above 13 or below65 can get it


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's called learning to support yourself by working for your own paycheck.


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a modern paycheck wouldnt support shit


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's called believing that the government's role isn't to babysit and take care of people


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I have a cousin who is retarded


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] byte[]#2610
She can never learn to support herself


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] byte[]#2610
In your idealized economic world she'll just die


[06-Apr-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i took a job and tried to support myself, I'd be homeless in a week


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's not my ideal economy.


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't agree with it.


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Then whoever you claim to represent


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
But I understand it's not psychopathy.


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
The general hardline GOP would think someone should take care of your cousin.


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not shoot them


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
holy fuck


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically it;s sociopathy


[06-Apr-19 11:41 AM] Honahue#0656
It's not murder if they don't mean to kill them just manslaughter


[06-Apr-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not really natural sociopathy either


[06-Apr-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theirs is a breed of learned sociopathy


[06-Apr-19 11:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, would you like me to assume that you just want to install a communist regime and murder millions of people because you want something like a UBI?


[06-Apr-19 11:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, holy shit, try not to assume others are psychopathic, sociopathic murderers at heart.


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
It'll do wonders for your blood pressure and accurate understanding of the world.


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Other people _genuinely_ have different perspectives than you do.


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would a communist regime murder millions it;s designed to help? normal communism isn;t stalinism


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
"not true communism" lolk


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because it has every time it's been tried.


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah, because I don't want poor people to die I want a communist regime with UBI


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Come at me


[06-Apr-19 11:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah. That's what you're saying, but about GOP.


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't believe that.


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
You shouldn't believe that about GOP, either.


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Or conservatives in general.


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP doesnt want people to die, they want slaves who are extremely disposable and uneducated


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Holy fuck again


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Okay here


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] byte[]#2610
_De jure_ the GOP have not done anything untoward


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean rich people can independently give up their wealth they don't have to die


[06-Apr-19 11:44 AM] byte[]#2610
_De facto_ they have caused massive amounts of unnecessary suffering for poor people


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] byte[]#2610
So even if they are not evil (which I don't buy)


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Heaven Beetle Gem(intexda)Today at 3:44 AM
the GOP doesnt want people to die, they want slaves who are extremely disposable and uneducated``` Yeah, and the Dems want a communist revolution that kills millions of people.


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Then you still have every reason to give them the boot in the next election


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maybe I should read about how to de-program cultists...


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] Honahue#0656
They can give up.money you know


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
I suspected this place was this bad...


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
there is no evidence that democrats want a communist revolution that kills millions of people


[06-Apr-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no what we want is  a baseline support level that let;s us fucking own a damned house and some basic healthcare,


[06-Apr-19 11:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
You guys really need to step outside of the echo chamber and try to actually understand some people you disagree with instead of assuming they're sociopaths.


[06-Apr-19 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
talk to me again when you;ve worked for walmart


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] byte[]#2610
For the most part, they're not sociopaths; they're just blissfully ignorant of how people who are not them live


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
@Crow Yeah, there's not. I don't think that. So don't think the GOP is sociopaths who want to murder children or whatever nonsense.


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
@byte[] well that's generally everyone.


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Honahue#0656
But Soviet Sparkle is too damn cute

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[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Crow#5457
what is the private prison industry?


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally slavery


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's effed up, yeah.


[06-Apr-19 11:47 AM] byte[]#2610
the private prison industry is more damning than that


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Honahue#0656
But that's the system they want to keep


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, if you spent your time doing anything but spouting views that advocate for casual death and enslavement (EVEN IF THAT ISN'T WHAT YOU ACTUALLY MEAN), you'd know there's plenty of disagreement here


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] byte[]#2610
for-profit prisons lobby for mandatory minimums and misdemeanor to felony conversion


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a fucked up system that keeps them poweful


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and they increase their capacity year after year


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
```CrowToday at 3:48 AM
but anyways, if you spent your time doing anything but spouting views that advocate for casual death and enslavement (EVEN IF THAT ISN'T WHAT YOU ACTUALLY MEAN), you'd know there's plenty of disagreement here``` I'm just, actually laughing.


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maybe I should mute this room.


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
"spouting views that advocate for casual death and enslavement"


[06-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
considering that you escalated this back hours ago in #general-discussion, it wouldn't matter anyway


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yes, I advocate for mass murders and enslavement.


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck do you think happens to people with pre-existing conditions when they don't get healthcare?


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Men, women and children in chains and executed publicly.


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
That is exactly what I want.


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
do you think they just go to a farm up north and live happily ever after?


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
You've seen through my evil plans.


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
they fucking die


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
in the streets


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Honahue#0656
You advocate for a status quo where those are the norm


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
alone


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
starving


[06-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally what happens


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
```
HonahueToday at 3:49 AM
You advocate for a status quo where those are the norm``` I advocate for not assuming that just because you don't understand someone's decision, they're literally Hitler.


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
the poor are dying like dogs, and your only response has been "so? it isn't our problem"


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally selfish altruism


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is going to pass a measure that let;s the meat industries self regulate. that will result in a fuck ton of sick people


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Has that been my fucking response?


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Honahue#0656
But you've admitted yourself the system is fucked


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Has it, @Crow ?


[06-Apr-19 11:50 AM] Starscraper#9753
Care to quote me on that?


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
Care to show exactly where I say, "fuck the poor, they're poor, haha!"


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
No.


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
Literally _NOBODY_ is like that.


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] byte[]#2610
every time you say some people believe cutting social services increases productivity


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
The belief is that government programs are inefficient spending and the taxes hurt the economy and lead to the poverty that they exist to ameliorate.


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] byte[]#2610
you implicitly say it


[06-Apr-19 11:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
I say


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
That they don't want to murder orphans in the streets


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
That they honestly believe the higher taxes hurt the economy and cause them to be poor and need help in the first place.


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Honahue#0656
But that they're okay with and admittedly shitty system that does that


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Let me counter those other two points real quick


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
And that attempts to help it generally make it worse.


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Government spending is always inefficient


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] byte[]#2610
You can't fix that


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
because every fucking time someone points out that you said something which leads to people dying, your response, in so many more words than necessary, is "so?"


[06-Apr-19 11:52 AM] Honahue#0656
So again it's not murder if they didn't mean it it's just man slaughter


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
@Crow It's "so many words" because that's not what it is.


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] byte[]#2610
And it's true, taxing the shit out of rich people causes massive slowdowns in economic growth


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yes!


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
YES!


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
You're getting it


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] byte[]#2610
But in our current state that would be desirable


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
NOW WAIT


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Before you go on


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Just stop there


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] byte[]#2610
We're growing unsustainably


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Honahue#0656
But why is economic growth your measure of success?


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
And you can imagine what it's like to actually be those people


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
See?


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] byte[]#2610
And economic growth is a poor indicator of the health of a nation


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
You don't want to shoot cripples


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Amazing, isn't it?


[06-Apr-19 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our economy is headed for mass collapse


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Honahue#0656
No because it's a stupid metric


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] byte[]#2610
You have to measure it by everyone in it


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
the only metrics that matter is how much poverty there is (you can have poor without poverty), and how well the middle class is doing


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Not just by per capita GDP


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
the poverty level CAN BE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS


[06-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
right now, it's limited to the lower classes, maybe lower-middle at worst


[06-Apr-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

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Wealth Inequality in America
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[06-Apr-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
this thing is from 2012


[06-Apr-19 12:03 PM] Honahue#0656
I think they left cause of communist propoganda

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[06-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well


[06-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Starscraper#9753
let's say you walk into a conservative Discord politics room


[06-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Starscraper#9753
And you're told constantly that the Democrats are child molestors who want to murder millions of people


[06-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
most conservative politics rooms talk about stupid shit like ocasio-cortez's dance video


[06-Apr-19 12:04 PM] Starscraper#9753
And about 5 people are arguing this


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Starscraper#9753
And they can produce "Evidence"


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Starscraper#9753
pretty bullshit evidence, but "evidence" nonetheless


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Starscraper#9753
And it's 4am


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Starscraper#9753
And you really don't want to spend 10 hours arguing it all


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Honahue#0656
If say Biden is a creepy Grandpa and it's shameful he's even being considered


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Starscraper#9753
At some point, you're just going to get tired of it and go, "fine"


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
I've shown evidence that the GOP's policies, whether intentionally or not, indirectly harm people based on economic class


[06-Apr-19 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
I've yet to see any evidence refuting that claim


[06-Apr-19 12:06 PM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, fine. You can argue their policies would hurt the poor. That's not what I'm saying.


[06-Apr-19 12:06 PM] Starscraper#9753
I'm just asking for some basic civil discourse.


[06-Apr-19 12:06 PM] Starscraper#9753
And assuming people _actually_ disagree with you, not that they're sociopaths.


[06-Apr-19 12:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well

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[06-Apr-19 12:06 PM] Crow#5457
this is not civil


[06-Apr-19 12:07 PM] byte[]#2610
The civil discourse ended long ago, and we were not the first to leave it


[06-Apr-19 12:07 PM] Honahue#0656
But that's the thing, my disagreement is that we shouldn't do policies that hurt poor people


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] Honahue#0656
So what's a compromise only hurt a few poor people?


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm okay with uncivil discourse. Just not dishonest


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] Starscraper#9753
That maybe they _actually mean it_ when they say they value a smaller government overreach, or that lowering taxes would reduce poverty by helping the economy to where people have more jobs available because companies can afford more jobs because you're taxing the rich people less so they can use their absurdly huge net worth to invest in things more, etc etc.


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i woke up to the civil discourse so I never started with it


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] Starscraper#9753
```
byte[]Today at 4:07 AM
The civil discourse ended long ago, and we were not the first to leave it``` Well I'd rather hang out in places where it exists, thank you very much.


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] byte[]#2610
They mean it when they say they think that


[06-Apr-19 12:08 PM] Starscraper#9753
And I know of a few.


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] byte[]#2610
The genuine ones don't understand why it doesn't work in practice


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] byte[]#2610
The practical ones shrug it off


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] Starscraper#9753
Ironically, I've noticed conservative-leaning groups are far better at assuming the best of their opposition. Maybe you can learn from that.


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] byte[]#2610
(_hint_: employees are powerless)


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpYQ8rYSrI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpYQ8rYSrI
Adam Ruins Everything - Work 40 Hours a Week
Adam Ruins Everything S01E08 Work Watch Online: http://www.trutv.com/full-episodes/adam-ruins-everything/index.html
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rHpYQ8rYSrI/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Apr-19 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
this is selfish altruism in action btw


[06-Apr-19 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
henry ford advocated for time off for employees... so that they can go buy his cars


[06-Apr-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last time one of the tax cut bills passed that was supposed to influence the rich to create mroe jobs and spending, they didn;t, they put the money in their bank accounts and bought stock in their own companies. A few of them gave christmas bonuses and then mass fired their employees


[06-Apr-19 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's exactly why amazon and walmart are now advocating for $15 an hour minimum wage


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
because they've reached the point that this minimum wage will hurt their competitors but not them


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] Honahue#0656
Perhaps you agree more with the conservatives so they seem more agreeable?


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] byte[]#2610
it's to put their competitors out of business


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] byte[]#2610
amazon and walmart have so much raw capital that it won't affect them short term and so much investment in automation that it won't make a dent long term


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] byte[]#2610
so they can advocate for arbitrarily high wage increases while firing thousands of people


[06-Apr-19 12:11 PM] Starscraper#9753
@Honahue no, it's because they don't assume you're a sociopath if you disagree with them.


[06-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
Or a racist.


[06-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
Heck, they don't even really see in terms of class or race very much at all, really.


[06-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
It's quite nice.


[06-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't if you had been around longer you'd know I'm the one that thinks humans aren't inherently violent


[06-Apr-19 12:12 PM] Honahue#0656
I think systems encourage it


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well, sorry, but I've had like 4 people arguing with me for like 6 hours and it's hard to keep different people's views straight.


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I happen to believe humans are inherently violent


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
actually, conservatives always assume I'm an ultrasocialist revolutionary because I advocate for maybe not throwing people below a certain yearly salary into a meat grinder


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Nebbie and xrow disagree with me


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Er byte


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Honahue#0656
You blue names


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] byte[]#2610
And that at least 5% of the population has psychopathic tendencies


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
humans are inherently violent because nature is inherently violent


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
humans came from nature


[06-Apr-19 12:13 PM] byte[]#2610
In fact I'm probably included in that 5%


[06-Apr-19 12:14 PM] Starscraper#9753
I'm actually hesitantly open to the idea of a UBI. Doesn't it work well in Alaska? And at some point automation will make it necessary. I just don't know when.


[06-Apr-19 12:14 PM] Starscraper#9753
@byte[] Everyone is a psychopath to some degree, in the right circumstances.


[06-Apr-19 12:14 PM] byte[]#2610
automation, strictly speaking, doesn't demand UBI


[06-Apr-19 12:14 PM] byte[]#2610
for example, if you automate farming and put all farmers out of business, you can now sell food at basically zero cost


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Starscraper#9753
It will warrant it at some point, since otherwise most of society will be unemployable.


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Farmers are probably the least expensive thing on a farm


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't need to be employed to be productive


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the best part about selfish altruism is that it makes it incredibly easy to justify not spending any money on welfare because it doesn't have any short term benefits


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
welfare is, by its nature, a long term investment


[06-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
you spend a little now to get more back later


[06-Apr-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
and it's just a nice thing to do


[06-Apr-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the welfare is poisoned before it can achieve its goal


[06-Apr-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
specifically so that it never achieves its goal


[06-Apr-19 12:17 PM] Honahue#0656
How much productive output is wasted in retail stores or fast food?


[06-Apr-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
retail stores, a lot


[06-Apr-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
don't know enough about fast food to comment


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
like in california, you can't have more than $15,000 in savings in order to keep receiving benefits from medi-cal (california's version of medicaid)


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
and medi-cal provides tens of thousands of dollars worth of benefits


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Honahue#0656
Shit on my way to school I drive past 3 McD, Wendy's, BK, Arby's, taco Bell, and a few others


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Honahue#0656
And it's not even a long drive


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well, look at it this way - you want to know a real ugly issue for the US? People with very low IQ. Under 82, they can't even be legally allowed into the military.

Don't get me wrong - they're just as valuable as any other human being, they're human beings after all - but how the heck are they supposed to make money? Even menial labor, they cannot perform safely or nearly as well as other people can.

And as automation takes more jobs, we're all going to be in their situation, eventually.

Even if not in the near future, eventually. But I often think the day humans are no longer employable is sooner than we think.


[06-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Honahue#0656
20 minutes if traffic is really bad 14 if it isn't


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
I should be clear - they're not the issue, the fact that we don't know how best and most fairly to provide for them, as a society, is.


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
on top of the $17,236 yearly income limit


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
And yeah


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
I got a friend on Welfare


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
you NEED to be able to save in order to improve your standard of living


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
Lost his paycheck one year because of a summer job that paid too well


[06-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
Lost a whole lot of money.


[06-Apr-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
but the whole system's been poisoned in order to prevent "the lazy" from abusing it (rate of welfare fraud is <5%)


[06-Apr-19 12:20 PM] Honahue#0656
Welfare Queens


[06-Apr-19 12:20 PM] Starscraper#9753
`rate of welfare fraud is <5%` I find that debatable. Maybe it is, but the issue is you're asking how common something is that's not detected.


[06-Apr-19 12:20 PM] Starscraper#9753
By definition, you can't answer that question, lol.


[06-Apr-19 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the well has been ppoisoned with heroin to keep people dependant on it, while making it so they can never climb out of it int he frst place


[06-Apr-19 12:21 PM] Starscraper#9753
But what I'll never truly understand is this belief that there's some boogeyman creating all the issues in the world.


[06-Apr-19 12:21 PM] Honahue#0656
There isn't a boogyman that's the awful part


[06-Apr-19 12:21 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea of "welfare fraud" in itself is horrifying


[06-Apr-19 12:21 PM] Starscraper#9753
Just replace GOP with the Devil and it's like you're fundamentalists.


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Starscraper#9753
```HonahueToday at 4:21 AM
There isn't a boogyman that's the awful part``` No, I actually think it's the _best_ part.


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Starscraper#9753
It means it's not a war.


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea that people could susbsist off the government being considered fundamentally a bad thing is _nuts_


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Starscraper#9753
It's an engineering problem.


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
except I've never argued that the GOP is evil, only that their policies indirectly harm people below a certain income level


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Honahue#0656
It's just been a bunch of "rational" actors doing what seems rational and it's coalesced into this weird shoggoth monster or misery


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
this is like the third time you've tried to change what I'm saying


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
I forget the term for it


[06-Apr-19 12:22 PM] Starscraper#9753
I'm not trying to do that.


[06-Apr-19 12:23 PM] byte[]#2610
usually called a strawman argument


[06-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Starscraper#9753
I'm talking to 4 people at once.


[06-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Starscraper#9753
That's what's happening.


[06-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I guess it is actually a strawman


[06-Apr-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
thought it was something else


[06-Apr-19 12:24 PM] Honahue#0656
Nah if their was a.boogyman it mean it's an engineering problem, without it's chaos theory


[06-Apr-19 12:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm poor as fuck


[06-Apr-19 12:24 PM] byte[]#2610
In three to four months time I could legitimately end up homeless


[06-Apr-19 12:24 PM] Honahue#0656
There's the Gish gallop that's where you change topics a bunch


[06-Apr-19 12:24 PM] Starscraper#9753
```HonahueToday at 4:22 AM
It's just been a bunch of "rational" actors doing what seems rational and it's coalesced into this weird shoggoth monster or misery``` But none of them want suffering.

An enemy can defeat you. An enemy can win.

But if something arises that nobody intended, then eventually I believe humanity will find a way to overcome it. It's impossible to count how many issues humanity has struggled through and overcome.


[06-Apr-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They don;t want you to suffer, but they;d rather you not thrive either


[06-Apr-19 12:25 PM] Starscraper#9753
No, they like more people thriving


[06-Apr-19 12:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm tired of having to defend basic rights and social services that hold me over while I try to figure out what I'm going to do


[06-Apr-19 12:25 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well


[06-Apr-19 12:25 PM] Honahue#0656
That makes it even worse, the system in place is one the seemingly want to do good and instead keeps smashing people under it's bloated limbs as it flails chaotically


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I've been rejected from or not had a response from every job I've applied to in the past month


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] Starscraper#9753
That's pretty shitty.


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] byte[]#2610
The only reason I'm not totally losing my shit right now is because of patreon


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve applied to jobs the last few years and never got a response back


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I will have to move in with family


[06-Apr-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am uninsured, and uncovered incase something goes medically wrong


[06-Apr-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I live with my family


[06-Apr-19 12:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I live in university housing right now on a separate fund that is only for university


[06-Apr-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm going to college for HVAC and i;m scared it might not even pay off int he end


[06-Apr-19 12:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't stay in the dorm over the summer


[06-Apr-19 12:27 PM] Starscraper#9753
Fund doesn't cover summer classes?


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I missed registration for summer classes


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I figured I would you know


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Have job offers


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] byte[]#2610
And not have to chase down six different companies trying to figure out if they want me


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
not even a dumb elective class open that interests you?


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we havent been able to afford propane for half a year now which means we dont have an oven, or a shower at the moment


[06-Apr-19 12:28 PM] Starscraper#9753
CS is supposed to be a bountiful field.


[06-Apr-19 12:29 PM] byte[]#2610
it's only bountiful in california


[06-Apr-19 12:29 PM] byte[]#2610
and it's only so there because of vulture capitalists


[06-Apr-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for our democrat governer, the finish line grant wouldn;t exist to give us a shot to get soem propane int he first place


[06-Apr-19 12:29 PM] Honahue#0656
I hope the tech bubble pops


[06-Apr-19 12:30 PM] Honahue#0656
God it's annoying and cancerous


[06-Apr-19 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
apple needs to get knocked down a peg


[06-Apr-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will name party lines in this because it was a very partisan issue for my state


[06-Apr-19 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
google and facebook need to get knocked down about twenty


[06-Apr-19 12:30 PM] Honahue#0656
The Valley does


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the pell grant i wouldnt even be taking college in the first place


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] Honahue#0656
The work culture it made the products it makes all crap


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] byte[]#2610
The work culture doesn't make the products crap


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] Starscraper#9753
@prism stryder(intexda) if it weren't for grants like that, you might have been able to afford it.
_Maybe_.


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It's the VC circlejerk


[06-Apr-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I would have gotten my GED and then I'd still be sittign here waiting for employers to respond to my resumes which they almost never do


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except i wouldnt


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] Starscraper#9753
Thing is, college prices are only so high because of grants and stuff like that.


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] Honahue#0656
Pretty sure you could say there's been zero technology progress because everything is apps, game apps, taxi apps whatever just something people can exploits with little physical investments


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the regulart student loans woudl still exist and those put you into eternidebt


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not true


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] Starscraper#9753
They guaranteed that students could afford


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] Starscraper#9753
So colleges could raise prices


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] Starscraper#9753
And still get their supply


[06-Apr-19 12:32 PM] byte[]#2610
college prices are so high because universities have started selling higher education as an experience


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
like a shitty high stress theme park


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] Starscraper#9753
lol


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] Starscraper#9753
I mean


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they sell it less liek an education and more like a business investment for the future


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] Starscraper#9753
lol because that sounds pretty accurate


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] Starscraper#9753
A shitty high stress theme park


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
not to mention ever since they blew out the student and faculty unions the provost and dean get multimillion dollar bonuses


[06-Apr-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually I like byte;s mataphor better


[06-Apr-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the previous president of my college embezzled so much money the college enarly shut down


[06-Apr-19 12:34 PM] byte[]#2610
my money is paying for some dickwad I've never met to masturbate in a mansion in the hills


[06-Apr-19 12:35 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well, if my game does well I'll be sure to give big bonuses to the few people involved in its production, heh.


[06-Apr-19 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
in california at least, there's the less expensive CSU system and the more expensive UC system; the CSU system is more for getting into careers in applied sciences, while the UC system is more for going into public research


[06-Apr-19 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
you want to go to a CSU if you want to make the big moneys, and you want to go to a UC if you want to do research


[06-Apr-19 12:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't charge people $20000 every three months though


[06-Apr-19 12:36 PM] Starscraper#9753
No, I'm not EA or War Thunder XP


[06-Apr-19 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
the UCs typically have a lot more "college experience" bullshit


[06-Apr-19 12:36 PM] Starscraper#9753
Freaking games these days


[06-Apr-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college is a community college, I needed a fucking grant to afford community college


[06-Apr-19 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
community college today cost what the most expensive colleges in the country used to cost in the 60's, 70's, and early 80's


[06-Apr-19 12:37 PM] Starscraper#9753
That's half of why I'm doing this. Screw their "game is a marketplace" models. Just make a good freaking game and have faith that that'll pay for it.


[06-Apr-19 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
like harvard, stanford, etc


[06-Apr-19 12:37 PM] Starscraper#9753
I want to know what the hell happened since the 50s.


[06-Apr-19 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
you can pay for a community college with a part-time job, at least in california


[06-Apr-19 12:38 PM] Starscraper#9753
Get a high school degree and own your own place and provide for a family.


[06-Apr-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they implemented the trickle down clog for starters


[06-Apr-19 12:38 PM] byte[]#2610
It started when employers stopped paying their employees for the value they generated


[06-Apr-19 12:38 PM] byte[]#2610
which was as I said around the mid 60s


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] Honahue#0656
America was the only country with industrial capability for a while cause we were untouched by bombings


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they made it so emploee wages dont rise with inflation


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so while cost of living has been gettign higher, wages havent


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
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[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] Honahue#0656
We re built Europe and Japan


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] Starscraper#9753
Combination of the last two is probably most accurate.


[06-Apr-19 12:39 PM] Starscraper#9753
WWII and not rising with inflation.


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] Crow#5457
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[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] byte[]#2610
WWII helped the economy a little bit due to wartime debt but not really


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] byte[]#2610
what fixed the economy was europe being utterly destroyed


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] byte[]#2610
they had to buy all their shit from us


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] byte[]#2610
so we were like "yeah we can do that"


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] Crow#5457
lots and lots of investments with high rates of return


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] Honahue#0656
Having a lot.of work because of the Marshall plan too


[06-Apr-19 12:40 PM] Starscraper#9753
I dunno, just my gut feeling. And hello data. Data is good.


[06-Apr-19 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
a loooot of wealth is generated by developing nations


[06-Apr-19 12:41 PM] Starscraper#9753
Let's just get robot slaves already.


[06-Apr-19 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
you can technically make a "developing nation" on demand by bombing one into rubble


[06-Apr-19 12:41 PM] Starscraper#9753
We know so much physics and engineering, let's get to post-scarcity already :q


[06-Apr-19 12:41 PM] Honahue#0656
Stagflation in the 70's then Reagan and his dumb ideas in the 80's


[06-Apr-19 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american economy is designed towork bottom up, but we have it working on a top down perspective


[06-Apr-19 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people work for the koney, they get the money, they spend the movey, and the money circulates as it should.


[06-Apr-19 12:43 PM] Honahue#0656
That's supply side economics, give money to the rich they'll invest in business and make jobs


[06-Apr-19 12:43 PM] Honahue#0656
Whoops nope they don't


[06-Apr-19 12:43 PM] byte[]#2610
employees are powerless


[06-Apr-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but we have it working on the reverse


[06-Apr-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
employers make the money, they get the oney, they keep the money, they hold the money, they invest th emoney into stock portfolios, thye make mroe money


[06-Apr-19 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it never goes down anywhere


[06-Apr-19 12:44 PM] Crow#5457
truman actually tried to nationalize the steel industry in the US in order to get around striking workers who were striking due to being forced to work for no pay because of the korean war


[06-Apr-19 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt trickle


[06-Apr-19 12:45 PM] Honahue#0656
That's why truck driver was one of the best jobs for low education high pay, you can't outsource it


[06-Apr-19 12:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it does trickle! it trickles like warm urine on your face because that's what they actually did


[06-Apr-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need a river, not a trickle


[06-Apr-19 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
all it ended up doing was dragging on in the courts for months longer until the supreme court ruled that truman can't nationalize the steel industry, then the workers ended up getting every single demand they wanted anyway


[06-Apr-19 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
which was higher wages and more time off


[06-Apr-19 12:46 PM] Starscraper#9753
Why does everyone keep saying it doesn't? What do you think investment money _is_?


[06-Apr-19 12:46 PM] Starscraper#9753
Just stuff that runs in circles in boardrooms?


[06-Apr-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money that makes mroe money in a rich person;s bank account?


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Starscraper#9753
Because it's literally _everything_.


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Starscraper#9753
They invest in _everything_.


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
also it caused eisenhower to get elected and then immediately kicked out due to deporting hundreds of thousands of legal residents and citizens for having hispanic roots


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Starscraper#9753
Oranges, cars, airplanes, beer bottles, pizza delivery, speakers, computers, video games...


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Starscraper#9753
That's where "rich people"s portfolios go.


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Buying stocks, which is the #1 thing rich people like to put money in, sees no impact on the employee salary


[06-Apr-19 12:47 PM] Starscraper#9753
Any investment that looks like it's doing well.


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] byte[]#2610
in pretty much every case


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is while they invest in those things, they dont invest int heir employees


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah, it leads to them not being fired because the company doesn't go under.


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] byte[]#2610
it goes to increasing the company's equity so they can take bigger loans


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] Starscraper#9753
And growing to where they can hire people in the first place.


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the companies that produce thoser things dont invest int heir employees


[06-Apr-19 12:48 PM] byte[]#2610
and buying more expensive assets they can write off their taxes for bigger depreciation


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] byte[]#2610
a company doesn't sell stock to give wages to employees


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] byte[]#2610
it sells stock to get a lot of capital fast


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] Starscraper#9753
My game is self-funded, but if it wasn't, I'd be going to their investments to make it, and using that to pay my modellers. Then I'd be able to afford more programmers than just a friend, too.


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and after christmas msot companies usually lay off hundreds of thousands of jobs in recent times


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] Starscraper#9753
```a company doesn't sell stock to give wages to employees``` Pardon?


[06-Apr-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like you didn't watch that video I linked earlier, it specifically mentions that the top 1% owns 50% of the investments in the US, while the bottom 50% owns 0.5% of the investments


[06-Apr-19 12:50 PM] Starscraper#9753
If a company doesn't give wages to employees, then they work for free?


[06-Apr-19 12:50 PM] Crow#5457
investments generate JOBS, not WAGES


[06-Apr-19 12:50 PM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah.


[06-Apr-19 12:50 PM] Starscraper#9753
And we're not drowning in jobs, are we?


[06-Apr-19 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the company pays wages to employees based on other revenue sources or against its own equity


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but the amount of that which employees see has nothing to do with the amount of equity


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
at all


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
the only jobs publicly available are retail, food, and incredibly hard blue collar jobs that not very many people can stomach


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm pretty sure HVAC is one of those


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] Starscraper#9753
That's the perception, at least.


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
if the amount of equity increases only employees with stock options get any kind of benefit


[06-Apr-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
every other job market shrunk


[06-Apr-19 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if i fuck up in HVAC they fine me $44 grand daily and send me to prison


[06-Apr-19 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
I literally linked a video showing that owning a business let a dude write off a somewhat expensive car as a business expense


[06-Apr-19 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
that's literally what started this whole thing 7 hours ago


[06-Apr-19 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they put a 10k bounty on my head if i decide to book it


[06-Apr-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes that is actuall EPA policy


[06-Apr-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called the montreal protocol


[06-Apr-19 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
having a lot of jobs means nothing when they're literally all an unlivable wage


[06-Apr-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hvac is supposed to be super profitable but from my understanding most of the people working in it live in trailers


[06-Apr-19 12:55 PM] Starscraper#9753
Don't take jobs at an unlivable wage, or you reward people for offering them. Literally it's better to live with your parents and wait for one at a livable wage than be stuck with that.


[06-Apr-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one offers any


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havebeen waiting for one to pop up, it never does


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] byte[]#2610
No wage


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] Starscraper#9753
Then find them, make them, I dunno.


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Only spend


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
only spend


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
>:V


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in rural areas


[06-Apr-19 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
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[06-Apr-19 12:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart is one of the worst things to happen with rural america


[06-Apr-19 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because when they move into a rural area, everyone else who has a similar business gets shut the fuck down


[06-Apr-19 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then once those businesses get shut down, walmart takes it;s shit, and moves out of the town;s tax zone


[06-Apr-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so tax revenue from walmart doesn;t even go to the town


[06-Apr-19 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but since walmart killed all the other stores, people have to be dependant on either them or amazon


[06-Apr-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when it comes to finding employment


[06-Apr-19 01:04 PM] Starscraper#9753
I've got a fun question for y'all, anyways.


[06-Apr-19 01:07 PM] Starscraper#9753
So I've got a 3d modeler from a poorer country that is either doing this to supplement some other form of income or isn't making very much by US standards.

Should I tell them they don't have a job anymore, or pay them a very low amount?

I'm going to be going over the finances of this enterprise again soon, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to afford a higher rate or not. So there's some fun food for thought for you.


[06-Apr-19 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
why would you tell them they don't have a job anymore?


[06-Apr-19 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
you can certainly lowball him, but the situation you gave us involves contract work


[06-Apr-19 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
he's not an employee


[06-Apr-19 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
he's an independent contractor


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well, yeah, a contract in this case.


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Starscraper#9753
But it's a similar situation.


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Crow#5457
which would mean breaking your contract


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Crow#5457
it is not


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Starscraper#9753
To a lot of what's been discussed.


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Crow#5457
contractors are not the same as employees


[06-Apr-19 01:11 PM] Starscraper#9753
I know that, but it's relatively comparable.


[06-Apr-19 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you dismiss a contractor without paying them then they can bring it to court


[06-Apr-19 01:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
Your standards of "close enough" notwithstanding.


[06-Apr-19 01:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well that's not what I'm talking about at all, obviously.


[06-Apr-19 01:12 PM] Starscraper#9753
lol


[06-Apr-19 01:12 PM] Crow#5457
in fact, the california supreme court recently had a ruling which made it illegal to hire private contractors to do the jobs that a regular employee would be doing for the company in order to get around healthcare and other benefits entitled to them


[06-Apr-19 01:13 PM] Starscraper#9753
But we've been working on a number of projects consecutively.


[06-Apr-19 01:13 PM] Starscraper#9753
But my point is kind of just to see it from more than one perspective.


[06-Apr-19 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
since private contractors aren't covered by a lot of regulations which give benefits to wage employees


[06-Apr-19 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
your point is a strawman


[06-Apr-19 01:14 PM] Starscraper#9753
The point is the world's not the rich trying to screw over the poor.


[06-Apr-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and event hen, the employees have to be full time to receaive those benefits


[06-Apr-19 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
you're using private contract work in place of gainful employment


[06-Apr-19 01:14 PM] Starscraper#9753
How is it a strawman if it's literally an example of setting the price of someone's work?


[06-Apr-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which most employers these days do not hire full time


[06-Apr-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but there's also no law to dictate what counts as a full time/ part time schedule so employers hire part time employees at full tiem schedules


[06-Apr-19 01:15 PM] Starscraper#9753
Whether it's private contract or employment, it's paying someone for their work and/or time.


[06-Apr-19 01:15 PM] Crow#5457
to try and make a point which has nothing to do with employees being fucked over by rich bosses (unless you're a closet billionaire, pretty much all of what's been discussed wouldn't apply to you)


[06-Apr-19 01:16 PM] Starscraper#9753
I wish I was a billionaire.


[06-Apr-19 01:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
same


[06-Apr-19 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
I wish people didn't have to wish to be a billionaire in order to be successful at life


[06-Apr-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[06-Apr-19 01:16 PM] Starscraper#9753
But I'd might as well be compared to a lot of people. Possibly even some of these I buy models from.


[06-Apr-19 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of places also schedule you so you can;t afford to get a second job and have to be full dependant on them


[06-Apr-19 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless you do a night shift day shift thing in which case you arent even really living anymore, you;re just doing jobs for people who arent really paying you


[06-Apr-19 01:19 PM] Starscraper#9753
People get too obsessed over finances. And you can still be anxious about your money no matter how much you have, funny enough.


[06-Apr-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people can;t afford housing and food on a basic employment income


[06-Apr-19 01:20 PM] Honahue#0656
It's hard not to be obsessed with finances if your only a paycheck away from starving


[06-Apr-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah there'sa reason to be obsessed


[06-Apr-19 01:20 PM] Honahue#0656
Or bad luck away from the hospital


[06-Apr-19 01:21 PM] Honahue#0656
Or a paycheck away from homelessness


[06-Apr-19 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i end up in the hospital that;s game over, i;m never climbing out of that debt pit


[06-Apr-19 01:22 PM] Starscraper#9753
```
Heaven Beetle Gem(intexda)Today at 5:20 AM
people can;t afford housing and food on a basic employment income``` Except I've got plenty of friends who do?


[06-Apr-19 01:22 PM] Honahue#0656
When Bezos is anxious about his money he's not worrying about how to pay for food or shelter or medicine he's wondering how to recoup the 35 bill he lost to his wife in divorce


[06-Apr-19 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
more like he's wondering whether it'll take two or three years to recoup those losses


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes well, you;re friends are fortunate


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Starscraper#9753
Even one who managed to save up on minimum-wage type waiting and basic service jobs enough to go back to college.


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Starscraper#9753
Fortunate?


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Starscraper#9753
You just live somewhere with a very crappy, high cost of living, it sounds like.


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were skilled enougy to manage saving up enough income to pullt hat off


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so yes fortunate


[06-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Honahue#0656
A certain amount of good fortune was involved


[06-Apr-19 01:24 PM] Starscraper#9753
Well that's true if you're not in absolute poverty in a tyrannical hell.


[06-Apr-19 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shitty places make it so you cant afford to leave those shitty places


[06-Apr-19 01:24 PM] Honahue#0656
Wow almost like being in a certain place can be a form of fortune


[06-Apr-19 01:25 PM] Starscraper#9753
Anyways, I'm off.


[06-Apr-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when the onyl employment options in those shitty places are walmart and fastfood


[06-Apr-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have a good day


[06-Apr-19 01:25 PM] Starscraper#9753
(and yeah, he was working minimum wage type stuff at Taco Bell)


[06-Apr-19 01:25 PM] Honahue#0656
You like game I recommend Night in the Woods


[06-Apr-19 01:42 PM] Honahue#0656
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[06-Apr-19 01:43 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised aaron wasn't around tonight


[06-Apr-19 01:45 PM] Honahue#0656
He's on vacation


[06-Apr-19 02:09 PM] Starscraper#9753
```it's just the pebble that'll start a landslide right now``` A lot of little things would make the world a better place.


[06-Apr-19 02:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and a lot of things have, on a daily basis - but I think it's foolish to believe that the government, as it is now, is going to be the source of that without us having an impact on it first


[06-Apr-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d604da469caf44fb854fd05a67ee15d7

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — Declaring "our country is full," President Donald Trump on Friday insisted the U.S. immigration system was overburdened and illegal crossings must be stopped as he inspected a...
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[06-Apr-19 04:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ni🅱🅱 we have a fuck ton of un-used houses but you and your types with hold that shit.


[06-Apr-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even our own people arent using those fucking houses


[06-Apr-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell, they even buy up houses from under people, evict them and then never sell them again. while also forcing entire families to leave all their belongings behind


[06-Apr-19 04:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
If I wasn't on data I'd grab some DoNotEat videos. He's got some stuff about that and how it applies over several different subjects. From land clearing for parking lots, emminent domain proceedings for highway construction, gentrification, and "slum" clearance.


[06-Apr-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oddly enough donald trump has tried to pull off dozens of those for his businesses while abusing the court system to pull it off


[06-Apr-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are also tons of exploration videos on youtube touring soem of these abandoned  absentee houses


[06-Apr-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s haunting seeing abandoned houses that havent had vandals fucking thme up. it;s like a disturbing time capsule of uprootment


[06-Apr-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/905ddb23461d48bba8ddab26c73479ce

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[06-Apr-19 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They let him change the fucking format and he didn't even go


[06-Apr-19 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Caved for no reason


[06-Apr-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is afraid of criticism to the point where even his own changes to the format don;t dispell the naggign sensation that people will criticize him at the dinner even without the comedy


[06-Apr-19 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't point out that he doesn't like jokes without being accused of TDS


[06-Apr-19 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all about making it so you can't say anything bad about him ever


[06-Apr-19 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They just want you to be silent otherwise you're unreasonable


[06-Apr-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the first ammendment he'd have passed a king of thailand clause for himself


[06-Apr-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se_majest%C3%A9_in_Thailand

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[06-Apr-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably with even harsher punishments


[06-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
"fuck off we're full" irl


[06-Apr-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPAzzaRV4AUuvPL.jpg

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[06-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The chainsaw at the end gets me


[06-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Eww political cartoons


[06-Apr-19 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least it's not stonetoss


[06-Apr-19 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this one seems to be making a point that's grounded in reality


[06-Apr-19 11:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does the girl look like


[06-Apr-19 11:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
your average feminist


[06-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because she is


[06-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is she's being maybe mildly not okay by giggling at normal behavior on an elite


[06-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he's responding by acting as if she's saying the world is on fire


[06-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
while being absolutely batshit


[06-Apr-19 11:45 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So sexist comic?


[06-Apr-19 11:45 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
She thinks men can't be normal?


[06-Apr-19 11:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You may be missing the point a bit, I think


[06-Apr-19 11:47 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This comic is like a poem


[06-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's giggling at something minor and funny


[06-Apr-19 11:47 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like you need deeper meaning


[06-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's acting like it's her being upset


[06-Apr-19 11:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There is no deeper meaning to her appearance other than she looks stereotypically "leftist"


[06-Apr-19 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then...acts in a relatable way as the guy gets progressively weirder


[06-Apr-19 11:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
American politics is confusing lol


[06-Apr-19 11:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Really misunderstood that people picked the the wrong people


[06-Apr-19 11:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not *that* confusing. We only have two political parties: useless and russian :3


[06-Apr-19 11:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk


[06-Apr-19 11:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
My country's politics is straightforward


[06-Apr-19 11:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is politics understanding different per country


[06-Apr-19 11:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, definitely


[06-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's easy


[06-Apr-19 11:51 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Maybe that's why


[06-Apr-19 11:51 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm used to my own country's politics where US is different


[06-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just do what the people who you hate dislike


[06-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if it hurts you


[06-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Spite is everything


[06-Apr-19 11:52 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like misusing the words Democratic and Republican


[06-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Spite charitable donations are a thing


[06-Apr-19 11:52 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
isn't Democratic simply a system where everyone can vote


[06-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Funny you mention this


[06-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The GOP has often used "Democrat Party" as an insult for the Dems


[06-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because of what you said


[06-Apr-19 11:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is it related to Democracy


[06-Apr-19 11:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And same goes to Republicans


[06-Apr-19 11:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Republic


[06-Apr-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For what it's worth, America is not actually a "democracy" in the classical sense of the word, we're a federal republic


[06-Apr-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but you can be sure that it's the democratic party that's most interested in preserving that, and the republican party that's trying to subvert that


[06-Apr-19 11:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So I'm somehow correct that democracy and republic definitions still apply?


[06-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[06-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrants want a Republic and Republicans want a Dictatorship


[06-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
A dictatorship that is completely uninterested in stopping discrimination.


[06-Apr-19 11:59 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So yeah


[06-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both names are completely wrong.


[06-Apr-19 11:59 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Their names are misleading


[07-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason is that in American politics


[07-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is extreme reverence for the idea of the founding fathers


[07-Apr-19 12:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I just thought that in these years, Democrats wants a democratic and Republicans wants a republic country


[07-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
of a federal republic with elements of democracy


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when you promote an idea


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to enshroud it in the founding fathers' ideals


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if it has nothing to do with them


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise people won't support it


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party's name is there to trikk people.


[07-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic party too


[07-Apr-19 12:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So yeah American politics is quite confusing if you aren't an American or at least don't live at the States


[07-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federalism is a funny thing.


[07-Apr-19 12:02 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
For me Democracy is like the easiest system to understand


[07-Apr-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
really?


[07-Apr-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
dictatorships aren't easier?


[07-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=60025

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Sweden Seizes Russian Dad's Kids to Give to Muslim Family, Dad Tak...
A Russian father who had his three daughters taken away from him and placed with a Muslim foster family by Swedish social services took his daughters back and fled to Polan
http://www.informationliberation.com/files/russian-poland-muslim-family.jpg


[07-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/information-liberation/

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Information Liberation - Media Bias/Fact Check
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attemp...
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[07-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ethos fallacy


[07-Apr-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fallacies of Credibility (Ethos) This fallacy attempts to disprove an argument by attacking the character of the speaker. ... This fallacy attempts to prove an argument is true because the public agrees with it.


[07-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
Provide an alternative source or it stands.

Also I believe Sweden would do that if the father was teaching his kids to be "Islamaphobic" or traditional Christian values.


[07-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
It did mention he was Christian, so...


[07-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Starscraper#9753
Derp, I forgot the part where it said they literally said it was because he was unemployed.


[07-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Starscraper#9753
Also why'd you delete that? https://www.rt.com/russia/455659-poland-court-russia-children/

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Love & justice: Russian family reunited by Polish court decision a...
A Russian father, who fled with his three daughters to Poland, going against Swedish social services which put the children in a Muslim foster family, finally received justice as a Polish court allowed the girls to stay with him.
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2019.04/article/5ca76da8dda4c8eb5c8b4574.jpg


[07-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's two sources to 0. So you're going to need to do better than bringing up an ethos fallacy.


[07-Apr-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was looking for a mroe reliable source


[07-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
RT tends to be pretty biased about anything directly concerning Russia, but more fair about other countries from what I've heard.

He was Russian, but they wouldn't have any vested interested in favoring Poland over Sweden.


[07-Apr-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://tass.com/society/1052006 still right biased but more factual in it;s reporting

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Dmitry Lisov earier applied for asylum in Poland to get protection from Sweden’s juvenile justice, as the daughters had been placed in a foster family in Sweden
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[07-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean of course you won't find MSNBC or CNN or such outlets reporting something that goes so against their narrative.


[07-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
except I didn't use the bias to attempt to disprove anything, therefore your attempt to say I committed a fallacy is bullshit


[07-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not to say the right doesn't have their own narrative.


[07-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
You literally just dropped a link saying it was a questionable source.


[07-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
So...


[07-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
Forgive me if I took that to mean you were doubting the validity of the story.


[07-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
I was just pointing out that the link is from a highly questionable source that would likely have a narrative to push


[07-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
I was looking up different sources even as you were typing that


[07-Apr-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
msnbc and cnn are unreliable as fuck, and political bias has nothing to do with it. the source was questionable because it;s known for propaganda, and narrative pushing


[07-Apr-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also went to find a non propaganda pushing source


[07-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, that's fine.


[07-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
fallacies only apply to when you try to use faulty logic to disprove an argument, it doesn't apply when someone points out your source has a tendency to push borderline conspiracy theories


[07-Apr-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Certain premises may be true but the emphasises may be skewed


[07-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Starscraper#9753
I didn't have any way of knowing ya'll were getting other sources. That's 100% agreeable. But don't expect me to respond well to just (implicitly) saying "it's a biased source according to this one website" and nothing else, as was the case when I replied.


[07-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
>In 2017, the Swedish juvenile welfare authorities removed the girls from their father’s home after Lisov’s wife, who was suffering from a severe mental illness, had been admitted to hospital. The girls were placed in a foster family of Lebanese descent.


[07-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
the whole "poor white christians being oppressed by the evil nasty muslims" narrative that the original source pushed was bullshit


[07-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Starscraper#9753
Is it bullshit if it literally happened, though?


[07-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
because the muslims aren't evil and nasty


[07-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
they're just people


[07-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
and the christians aren't being oppressed


[07-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
They didn't say the Muslims were evil and nasty.


[07-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
the children have been with the lebanese family since 2017


[07-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
They said it was difficult for Christian girls to live in a very different environment, and they weren't the family they grew up with and loved.


[07-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
so obviously they've been treated well enough


[07-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's definitely dumb that they took away the children to begin with though


[07-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, that's basically it.


[07-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's a pretty weak reason that because he wasn't employed at the time that they should be sent to another family


[07-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
🇸🇪  - 1, 🇵🇱 + 1


[07-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
Basically how it hits my mind.


[07-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
but I'm completely against the stupidity of that original article, it makes it sound like this is something that literally just happened like a week ago and that the children are being lowkey abused by their evil muslim captives, which are all things heavily implied by every paragraph of that "information liberation" site


[07-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't even mention the fact that the kids had been with the muslim family for about 2 years


[07-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Starscraper#9753
Abused? No.

In the wrong place with a set of rules, beliefs, customs, and culture that is extremely difficult to adjust to? Absolutely. And had no right to be forced there? Yep as well.


[07-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
like 90% of it is the set of rules, you'll have a new set of rules for literally any family, not just muslims


[07-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
No pork, wear the hijab in public, don't talk back to men...


[07-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing wrong with children being exposed to new beliefs, customs, and cultures


[07-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
except that's not what happened, that's what you're implying happened


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
Gays are an abomination, pray the correct number of times a day to Allah...


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
obviously there'd be no pork cooked at home


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Starscraper#9753
Those are Muslim beliefs.


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention there are several types of muslims


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
the hijab part is bullshit


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Honahue#0656
LGBT is pretty much universally unacceptable in Abrahamic religions


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
talking back to men is bullshit that only really happens in extreme muslim countries


[07-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Macarou#9574
There are two main types of Islam, if I remember correctly, Sunni and Shia. As for the differences, I know not


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
when the first secondary source you find in google for this event is infowars


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
you know something's up


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
```CrowToday at 5:34 PM
the hijab part is bullshit```
Except that France literally had major issues with this because they wear them so commonly?


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
france hasn't had major issues with it


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the french _hate_ muslims


[07-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/world/europe/france-sports-hijab-decathlon.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/world/europe/france-sports-hijab-decathlon.html
A Sports Hijab Has France Debating the Muslim Veil, Again
A French store dropped a plan to sell a hijab designed for runners after becoming embroiled in the country's debate about what Muslim women wear.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/01/world/01france-hijab-print/28france-hijab2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[07-Apr-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
they play up any exhibition of islam in public whatsoever


[07-Apr-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
and use it to deny rights


[07-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
that has nothing to do with forcing foster children to wear hijabs


[07-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[07-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, single out one small part of what I said and hyper-focus on it, to the point of removing its context or relevancy.


[07-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
The point is your kids have been forcibly taken from you because you don't have a job and your wife is in a mental hospital, and sent to a family with very different religious and cultural beliefs, one that is extreme by your standards.


[07-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
The Star Pone: Today at 4:32 PM
Abused? No.
In the wrong place with a set of rules, beliefs, customs, and culture that is extremely difficult to adjust to? Absolutely. And had no right to be forced there? Yep as well.

Crow: Today at 4:33 PM
like 90% of it is the set of rules, you'll have a new set of rules for literally any family, not just muslims

The Star Pone: Today at 4:33 PM
No pork, wear the hijab in public, don't talk back to men...


[07-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
I think you'd be upset if your small daughters were taken to live with a WBBC family.


[07-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
who the fuck cares if the family themselves wears hijabs in public


[07-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'd be upset if my small daughters were taken to live with ANY family


[07-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
I don't give a shit if it's muslim or not


[07-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's just the cherry on top, really.


[07-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
you literally just implied that by taking the children to live with a muslim family, they'd be forced to wear hijabs and not talk back to men


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Those are archetypical of the sorts of cultural expectations Muslims have for women, yes.


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
If the family is registered to be a Foster family the fact they momentarily take up children not of their faith is coincadental. What is missing is the character of the father that he couldn't take the kids when the mother goes to the hospital.


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
also, little girls don't actually have to wear hijabs


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
So a foster family that happened to be open may have been the best pick.


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's only young women who do


[07-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, correction noted.


[07-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
```What is missing is the character of the father that he couldn't take the kids when the mother goes to the hospital.``` 3 articles have said that Sweden's system said it was because he was unemployed.


[07-Apr-19 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, i don't know what the point in complaining about the muslim family is, they are Lebanese after all, and Lebanese are well noted for being more liberal than, say, the Saudi Arabians


[07-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Macarou#9574
They are?


[07-Apr-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, muslim beleifs and intensity tend to vary on regions


[07-Apr-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much like any other religion


[07-Apr-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course there's going to be some cultural dissonance for them being introduced to a whole other familiar context, but they were still in Europe


[07-Apr-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And even if the case is condemnable, i would say it changes little in the grand scheme of things, because it's just a personal story and no nation is at fault


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
http://tass.com/society/1051821

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Russian, who took his three children from Swedish foster family, i...
The Polish court is now to decide on whether the children should be sent back to Sweden or released together with their father
http://tass.com/images/tass_logo_share_en.png


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only just a bureaucratic error that got corrected after some time


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The Lisovs family moved to Sweden from Khabarovsk in 2012. They sought to obtain a residence permit and applied for social benefits. When Lisov’s wife became gravely ill and was hospitalized in 2014, the family attracted the attention of Swedish juvenile welfare authorities. In 2017, the children were taken from their father and handed over to a foster family of a Lebanese origin. Their case is handled by the Russian Consulate General in Goteborg.


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
it took 3 years for them to take the children away from the father for not having a job


[07-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
this is more than justified


[07-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
this is why SOURCES MATTER


[07-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
You can take a Lebanese family out of Lebanon, but quite often, the Lebanon has not left the Lebanese family.

I'm going to assume the reader is atheist, or at least nondenomanational - you wouldn't appreciate having your three daughters taken to live with a highly religious family of any kind, I imagine, particularly Christian. So do try to understand, here.


[07-Apr-19 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yep


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
If you think that makes it okay to have three daughters taken away to live with a family with very different values...


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
I don't know what to say.


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
you're making up bullshit to justify your claims, you don't actually know if they're highly religious to begin with


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Quite often, the Lebanon has not left the family"
Well, that usually depends


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Other than I hope you learn some empathy some day.


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Migrants tend to adapt to foreign cultures quite well on certain occasions


[07-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
except the father had full visitation rights


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
Oh


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
OKAY THEN


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
That makes it all okay.


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
You get to see your three daughters for 6 hours a week.


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they could have been loosely muslim for all we know


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
Whoop-do-friggin-doo


[07-Apr-19 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You have not even provided information on how happy or sad the children have been under the Lebanese family's custody


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You just assumed they were evil ultraconservative tyrant parents because they're muslim


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Period


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
the children obviously would prefer to live with their father, but that's not an option when the father can't afford to take care of them


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
Have three daughters, lose your job, fail to get one in 3 years, and they're forcibly removed by the state to go live with some devout Christians who teach them things that are against what you taught them.

Perhaps you'd learn some empathy.


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly they might be better of with a Lebanese family with means than a father without means. So the situation is understood as beneficial for the girls in this regard.


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again


[07-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's worth noting that in 1 month in Poland, he got several job offers.


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
because the case made international news


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You don't know how conservative the Lebanese parents have been


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You just assumed shit


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, he got news famous


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
probably influenced by the russian government


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, not with certainty, no.


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
But I can make an educated guess.


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Educated"


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
the russians love being morally superior over the west


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
job offers are going to line the fuck up if you;re news famous


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
Based on what the overwhelming majority of those families are like.


[07-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
it's how you win culture wars


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
the west is really bad at culture wars for some reason


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
```AaronMkToday at 5:46 PM
Honestly they might be better of with a Lebanese family with means than a father without means. So the situation is understood as beneficial for the girls in this regard.``` Your kids have been taken from you - it's for their own good.

You must go live with this strange family now with all these strange rules instead of your dad who you love - it's for your own good.


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
Big Brother is taking good care of you, don't worry.


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
🇸🇪


[07-Apr-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You have not mentioned any info on how happy the children have been under their biological father


[07-Apr-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We don't know if he's been caring or abusive


[07-Apr-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neither do we know about the Lebanese foster parents


[07-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
They're happy with their new foreign family. That makes it okay. Everything is okay. One day you might get to see your children again.
🇸🇪


[07-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
the story implies that the daughters went with him willingly, but we don't know if he misled them and told them that they were free to go with him, or if they knew that they weren't supposed to be going with them, but it all seems like they wanted to be with him


[07-Apr-19 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
I see we're at the meme stage of effective character attacks. So:

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[07-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
You mean to say the children wanted to be with their biological father? :ponythinking:


[07-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like, there's actually some value in keeping families together?


[07-Apr-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn't because of domestic abuse


[07-Apr-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have no real context outside of financial support reasons


[07-Apr-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes, non-familial friends are better family than, say, a drunk dad who doesn't care about you


[07-Apr-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i don't know what the biological father of the three children was like


[07-Apr-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So i won't assume any further


[07-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
No reason to assume the father was abusive. There are reasons to believe he wasn't. Such as - that's the conclusion Poland came to, and the children wanted to be with him.


[07-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
In fact, Sweden didn't even rule him as abusive.


[07-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
He was never officially deprived of parental rights, they just took the children.


[07-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's on the tass source.


[07-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
So


[07-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
I think we can all agree


[07-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
🇸🇪 < 🇵🇱


[07-Apr-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, it depends


[07-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
In this case


[07-Apr-19 01:58 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there such thing as gaywashing


[07-Apr-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can't just qualify two countries based on one isolated personal incident


[07-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
`In this case`


[07-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
Though granted I didn't say that until after you said "well it depends"


[07-Apr-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not at all fond of cultural relativism, but eh, i get.


[07-Apr-19 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just don't think it's a very peculiar case in its moral standing


[07-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The guy did flee to Poland so we can guess he probably wasn't the best if persons.


[07-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
this is the problem with bad faith arguments, the one arguing in bad faith will never admit that any of their assumptions are wrong while forcing people who argue in good faith to admit they're making assumptions to begin with, thus somehow proving that they're in the wrong without actually proving anything


[07-Apr-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[07-Apr-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The situation at hand has a lot of nuance and a few red flags, but Star Pone keeps insisting it's black-and-white


[07-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
```The guy did flee to Poland so we can guess he probably wasn't the best if persons.``` He fled to somewhere where he could be with his three young daughters.

What terrible person would do that?


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why not to Russia


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Are we talking about religion now


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He is Russian


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or just stay in Sweden


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
Heck if I know.

Maybe so he could live with his daughters?


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
Why is it so damn hard for y'all to get the whole "family forever" thing?


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
he was trying to get on a flight to russia after taking a ferry from sweden to poland


[07-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>family forever


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, not when your parents are abusive


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
but sweden had issued a warrant for his arrest, so they detained him


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sometimes I tab to this channel and get sad that every yearly apocalypse tale is fake


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because he took the kids out of the country, obviously.


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then he took it to court


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Again, not when your parents are abusive``` We established he's not, though.


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And he won


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
no we haven't


[07-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not even Sweden said he was abusive.


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
The ones who did it.


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's all assumptions


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
even assuming the children went with him willingly is an assumption


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
No it's not


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
Don't lie


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
yes, it is


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"don't lie"


[07-Apr-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nibba, you are the one making what seems to be unintentional assumptions here


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
The sources said it was willing, and that the reason Warsaw let him keep them is _because_ not even Sweden said he was abusive.


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
we established that it would be HARD for him to take the children against their will, so it's easier to ASSUME that they went willingly


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
They're not assumptions, they're in the sources.


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Brb


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
none of them say "willingly", you're actually fucking lying now


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where in the sources is it said that the children went with him willingly?


[07-Apr-19 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus


[07-Apr-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly the only answer is to finally liquidate the nuclear family and reinstitute the broad family.


[07-Apr-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE MONOPOLY OF THE CHILDREN TO THE PARENT IS BROKEN


[07-Apr-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Enter the aunt, the granny, the uncle, the grandpa, and all the neighbors.


[07-Apr-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Large non-nuclear families, yay c:


[07-Apr-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A Broad Definition of Family. “The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other's life.” – Richard Bach.


[07-Apr-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Guarani had and still kinda have broad families that don't include only the mother, daughter, and children


[07-Apr-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
community is more important than blood ties


[07-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Macarou#9574
Guarani?


[07-Apr-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A native tribe of South America


[07-Apr-19 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They were and are largely present in the area i live in


[07-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Ah, I see.


[07-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the "dreaded collectivism"


[07-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Crow
Today at 6:06 PM
none of them say "willingly", you're actually fucking lying now

BadgingBadger🦄🌈Today at 6:06 PM
Where in the sources is it said that the children went with him willingly?
Jesus```

```“The children have a very strong bond with the father, and when I talked to them they told me that they want to stay with him,” Judge Janeta Seliga-Kaczmarek said, as quoted by Swedish media. ``` - RT
```"The children have a very strong bond with the father, and when I talked to them they told me that they want to stay with their father and love him and do not want to be separated from him" judge Janeta Seliga-Kaczmarek said, as quoted by Samhällsnytt.``` - IL
```"Poland is a beautiful country. It is blossoming in my eyes, because here can finally be with Dad", Sofia Lisova, Denis's eldest daughter said after the court's verdict, as quoted by Artur Stelmasiak, the editor of the Catholic weekly Niedziela.```
```According to Babken Khanzadyan, who represents the Lisovs, they weren't given any opportunity to defend their rights, and the girls didn't want to stay there.```


[07-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
why didn't you quote the only credible news source linked here?


[07-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
So I was mostly wrong - there's nothing _direct_ about that particular moment in the story, but the implications are incredibly heavy.


[07-Apr-19 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What implications?


[07-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
`why didn't you quote the only news source that gives the story I want linked here?` ftfy


[07-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Starscraper#9753
```
BadgingBadger🦄🌈Today at 6:14 PM
What implications?``` Can you read?


[07-Apr-19 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That some bureaucratic error or communication mistake led to some kids being separated from their father?


[07-Apr-19 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is inconsequential, to be honest.


[07-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Starscraper#9753
```the girls didn't want to stay there.```
```"Poland is a beautiful country. It is blossoming in my eyes, because here can finally be with Dad", Sofia Lisova, Denis's eldest daughter said```
```"The children have a very strong bond with the father, and when I talked to them they told me that they want to stay with their father and love him and do not want to be separated from him" judge Janeta Seliga-Kaczmarek said, as quoted by Samhällsnytt.```


[07-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
no, it's literally the only one which has fact checkers saying that it's legit


[07-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
RT is super biased when it reports on anything russian-related, and information liberation is a borderline conspiracy theory website


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
So, the Tweets that IL shows are just imaginary and fabricated, then, because the fact-checkers are legit and said the source was questionable?


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
this conversation has me at a `| || || |_`


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Star Pone, are you trying to flare up some emotions in me to make me sad and teary and willing to back the right-wing cause?


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Starscraper#9753
```BadgingBadger🦄🌈Today at 6:16 PM
Star Pone, are you trying to flare up some emotions in me to make me sad and teary and willing to back the right-wing cause?``` I just want a basic freaking admission that Sweden screwed up bad and Poland took the high ground, here.


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the kids were indeed happier if they were back with their father, good for them, then.


[07-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, iceland implemented a form of collective parenting in order to curtail teenage violence and substance abuse, it was incredibly effective and tanked teenage substance abuse from one of the highest in the eurozone to the lowest


[07-Apr-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with Switzerland, who applied societal responsibility and then support for drug addicts, i hear


[07-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
sweden didn't screw anything up, I guarantee that the kids would've been gone even faster in the US than the 3 years that the father was given to find a job in order to be able to financially support his kids


[07-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because he'd be homeless in the US if he didn't have a job for 3 years


[07-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ah, whataboutism at its finest


[07-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Starscraper#9753
To quote you from last night


[07-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't whataboutism, wtf


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
Welcome to my world


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
Except it is in this case


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
"America would've done it, too, so it's okay."


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
your claim is that sweden screwed up


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, given how bad ICE and child support services in the US tend to be, Crow's assumption is accurate


[07-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
my claim is that sweden didn't screw up


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
because sweden gave the father ample time to get his act together


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
3 years is way too long imo


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ICE would have likely botched the case beyond repair


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Starscraper#9753
Ah, "your kids aren't yours" Crow, again.


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
what


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cps in america is dreadful, and if that father had fled to america, he woudl have been detained and seperated from his children


[07-Apr-19 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, what are you trying to prove here?


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Starscraper#9753
Let me quote myself since you seemed to miss it


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Starscraper#9753
``` I just want a basic freaking admission that Sweden screwed up bad and Poland took the high ground, here.```


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're obviously using a lot of arbitrary personal moral imperatives


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you wont get that admission


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
because it didn't happen lol


[07-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Starscraper#9753
You see


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have enough context to make an assumption that grounded


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I feel bad for the children as i interpreted their situation from a few flawed assumptions and you should feel bad, too"


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
"flawed"


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Starscraper#9753
>>>CITATION NEEDED


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
I personally think that taking children away from parents is a bad idea, but if someone has 3 years to not have their children taken away due to not being able to financially suport them and they fail, what's the problem?


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, flawed


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
your assumptions are flawed


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
not because they're wrong


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
but because you're human


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
and humans are flawed


[07-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
but this is going off topic


[07-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Starscraper#9753
Wasn't just last night this huge conversation on how hard it is to get a job?


[07-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, yes


[07-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
not sweden


[07-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Starscraper#9753
But now you're saying "hah, screw him, take his kids away, he's a loser that didn't get a job."


[07-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's hard to get a job within a few months in the US, not in 3 years


[07-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Sweden has a massive social safety net


[07-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
one of the best in the world


[07-Apr-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america doesn;t have that


[07-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
I still find it despicable to take his kids away.


[07-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Starscraper#9753
Even the US has food stamps.


[07-Apr-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america all of his optiosn would have been privitized to the point where he might have ended up homeless instead


[07-Apr-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Food stamps aren't enough


[07-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
food stamps doesn't even cover enough to eat healthily


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
you have to take unhealthy options on food stamps a lot of the time


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the food stamp program is a fucking joke


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, a chronic private healthcare system with numerous flaws


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Little financial security policies


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
But you're criticizing me for making assumptions


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
trump advocated for replacing food stamps with a monthly "food box" which contains pre-selected food that people don't get to choose


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Starscraper#9753
Then you assume his kids were living in horrible conditions and needed saving


[07-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
back in 2017


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
dude, you said that


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow that sounds an awful lot like Maduro's food safety program in Venezuela lol


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
stop fucking projecting


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well if that's not the case


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
then why would it matter if he didn't have a job?


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
you assumed the kids were being forced to wear hijabs and worship men


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he still needs to provide them with food and warmth


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
```Then you assume his kids were living in horrible conditions and needed saving``` I'm talking about while they were living with their real dad.


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
he provided the warmth, sweden provided the food


[07-Apr-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and you kind of need higher than a basic income to raise children properly


[07-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Starscraper#9753
But you're assuming they weren't in a condition they could live in while living with their biological dad.


[07-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's even less of a well-founded assumption than my guess that the Labenese family was a typical Islamic family.


[07-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Starscraper#9753
Or that their condition was so bad they had to be taken from their father.


[07-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
first of all, "typical islamic family" is a really discriminatory thing to say, second of all, he literally had no money to pay for his kids with


[07-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
for 3 years


[07-Apr-19 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Thpical islamic family"
From what sort of majority islamic country?


[07-Apr-19 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, the family is from Lebanon, and they're comparatively more "liberal" than other Muslim populations


[07-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
```is a really discriminatory thing to say,``` Says the one who says felons with outstanding court fees are overwhelmingly black.


[07-Apr-19 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[07-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
He said that last night, and I have the same argument - it's true, so it's not discriminatory to state fact.


[07-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Starscraper#9753
By definition of being Islamic, they have Islamic beliefs.


[07-Apr-19 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You dense motherfucker


[07-Apr-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that simply means that courts try black people as guilty more often, not that black people are more likely criminals


[07-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
no I didn't


[07-Apr-19 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Saying black felons are overwhelmingly and disproportionately punished by the justice system does not imply that Crow hates these black people or sees them negatively


[07-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
that wasn't me you idiot


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
Right. And saying that an Islamic family will have Islamic beliefs doesn't mean I hate them or see them negatively.


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
he can't even keep the people he argues with straight in his head


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
Yeah, 'cause I've constantly got like 5 people at it.


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
he just thinks it's all one homogenous socialist blob


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
Makes me wonder why I'm here.


[07-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
So excuse me if I can't keep it all straight when I'm trying to manage the argument itself.


[07-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
And when I reply to one person, another gets mad because he thinks I'm replying to him.


[07-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
maybe stop arguing then if you're so incapable


[07-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
Maybe trying arguing 5 new people at once, yourself.


[07-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
I think you'll find you're a lot more damn incapable then when you've got 4 buddies on your back.


[07-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
There's a reason courts don't have 5 lawyers on one side and 1 lawyer on the other.


[07-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
The 1 would basically never win.


[07-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
I've done that before


[07-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
without confusing any arguments


[07-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
Press X to doubt.


[07-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
But I'm done


[07-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
btw, that does happen in court


[07-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
Have fun


[07-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
big ass corporations have teams of lawyers to beat down people suing them


[07-Apr-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Have fun"
Wat


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
he wants to feel victorious in defeat


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
lmao he's back


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Fuck you, no.


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
I said "I'm done"


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
ok bye


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
shoo


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
hasta la vista


[07-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
So stop projecting shit on me.


[07-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
>But I'm done
>Have fun
>WAHHHH STOP PROJECTING


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of myself when i was uncapable of arguing with nuance, tbh


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
Oh, fuck you


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm not done


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
```A Polish court ruled that the Swedish social service had violated an EU convention that forbids the placement of children in foreign cultural environments```


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
They literally violated EU convention.


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
They were objectively in the wrong.


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
By EU standards.


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
a discriminatory EU convention


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
PFft


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
sweet.


[07-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
Good job


[07-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
_pat pat_


[07-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
You call it "discriminatory", therefore it's invalid and wrong.


[07-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
We can just pretend they didn't violate EU law, then.


[07-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
One problem:


[07-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
they did.


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the error was corrected


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So?


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the father also broke the law by kidnapping his own children and fleeing the country, so...?


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
it says "convention", I'm trying to find out if it's actually a law or not


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
So, they literally, legally, objectively, "screwed up"


[07-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
You even call it an error.


[07-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Which is what I was after. At least half of it.


[07-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
That Sweden screwed up.


[07-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd agree that legally they screwed up


[07-Apr-19 02:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Screwed up in the sense of how national immigration and child custody works, it doesn't mean the Polish court taking the children back to their father is immediately correct in a moral sense


[07-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
```it doesn't mean the Polish court taking the children back to their father is immediately correct in a moral sense``` Another great quote for the ages.


[07-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'll remember this if we ever talk about US immigration issues and ICE.


[07-Apr-19 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok.


[07-Apr-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
polish law is not US law


[07-Apr-19 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[07-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
well it's true in Poland, the EU and America, just cause it's a law doesn't mean it a good law or a just law


[07-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd be highly skeptical of someone that got their morals form the legal code


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, in the case of Mexican children being detained by ICE, there's often clear evidence of mistreatment


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously because the system did it


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the system is correct


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the system is always correct


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In this case we're talking about, the case just isn't clear enough


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
The system provides certain protections to parents against having their children taken.


[07-Apr-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in poland


[07-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Sweden overstepped their bounds in how they handled the case and violated EU conventions.


[07-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Literally all of the EU would agree that they did this wrong


[07-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
but is it a just law?


[07-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
But 5 people here are convinced I'm in the wrong, so I guess I am, 'cause clearly a non-abusive father shouldn't have a right to live with his kids.


[07-Apr-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we still dont have enough context to know if he wasnt abusive or not but ok


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't convinced that you're in the wrong, they're convinced that you don't actually have an argument beyond wild assumptions


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
Wild assumptions? Again, I'm just reading the story.


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
You're assuming the father was abusive


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
I never said that


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
despite the fact that not even Sweden brought charges to him


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
and then you tell them that they're wrong when they also make assumptions


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well if he wasn't abusive then why would taking his kids be okay?


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
but your assumptions are "superior"


[07-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
because he wasn't fucking feeding them


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
he had no fucking money


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I never assumed the father was abusive, I said i dont have enough context to gleam their home environments


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
if Sweden had taken the daughters and put them with a family with value and culture similar to  Russia/Sweden would that have been okay?


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
```However, he has not been deprived of parental rights, so separating them would be inadmissible``` ```The Swedish authorities have filed no charges against the father.```

```
CrowToday at 6:52 PM
he had no fucking money``` An assumption, though.


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
that's why they took the kids away from him to begin with


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Starscraper#9753
```HonahueToday at 6:52 PM
if Sweden had taken the daughters and put them with a family with value and culture similar to  Russia/Sweden would that have been okay?``` Considerably more okay.


[07-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
you're cherrypicking now


[07-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that they told him he needed to get a job in 2014 after his wife was admitted to the hospital for mental illness


[07-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Honahue#0656
but besides being Muslim  how culturally different were the family they put them with?


[07-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
then they placed the children in foster care in 2017


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
```
HonahueToday at 6:53 PM
but besides being Muslim  how culturally different were the family they put them with?``` As culturally different as a Muslim family.


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
So there's a range there.


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Muslims and Christians are both Abrahamic religions though,


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
But based off of their court, Warsaw concluded it was a violation of EU convention.


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
then the father kidnapped them (the legal definition of kidnapping) and fled the country


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
So different enough for Warsaw to call it out.


[07-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
besides the fact that poland is incredibly discriminatory against muslims?


[07-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
And you're assuming this was purely discrimination, then?


[07-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Starscraper#9753
Because that's a loaded question.


[07-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/poland-far-right-demonstrations-great-celebration-warsaw-neo-nazis-white-supremacists-a8053516.html

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60,000 fascists marched through Poland calling for an 'Islamic Hol...
Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the leader of the government's ruling party says racism and xenophobia is 'marginal problem'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/11/14/08/poland-march-0.jpg


[07-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
>A 60,000-strong nationalist march in Warsaw which saw demonstrators tout white supremacist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic messages was largely an expression of patriotic feeling, Poland's Foreign Ministry has said.


[07-Apr-19 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[07-Apr-19 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Poland does have some liberal areas though, like Danzig


[07-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
So, we can just assume that Warsaw's ruling was discriminatory, then, not legitimate?


[07-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
And that assumption is okay?


[07-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
But my assumption that an Islamic family will have typical Islamic beliefs, isn't?


[07-Apr-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you only gave 3 stereotypically generic beleifs though


[07-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
"stereotypical generic"


[07-Apr-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no pork, hijabs, no back talk to men


[07-Apr-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i love how your argument is to attack my typo


[07-Apr-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
very classy


[07-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
That's not what I was saying


[07-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
Don't misinterpret what I say in a negative way.


[07-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm saying It's not from stereotyping and genericizing. It's from actual Islamic beliefs that are largely ubiquitous to the sects.


[07-Apr-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are several sects of muslim though


[07-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
but you could make the same assumptions of Christianty, they all get baptized, take Eucharist, and say the lords prayer


[07-Apr-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much liek how there are several sects of christians and jews


[07-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
`that are largely ubiquitous to the sects.`


[07-Apr-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the burden of proof is on the accuser so i'll let you give the evidence to support your claim


[07-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Starscraper#9753
Feel free to read up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Denominations

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[07-Apr-19 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inshallah


[07-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
But we're really getting off track, here.


[07-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Starscraper#9753
It looks like this won't go anywhere, though.

It's an assumption that the daughters were in a poor enough state, despite Sweden's safety net, that they needed to be taken to live a decent life.


[07-Apr-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well to throw this completely off track, https://apnews.com/38666fed556341cb869375c942ae92e1

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump's appearance before the Republican Jewish Coalition (all times local): 3:30 p.m. South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham says he wants...
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[07-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
they took the daughters from the father because of the safety net


[07-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
which is almost ubiquitous in western society


[07-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Starscraper#9753
And I'm not confident enough in that assumption, or of Sweden's treatment of the father, to feel comfortable with them taking them. Not after Warsaw determined that wasn't acceptable.


[07-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure every western country has standards for child care


[07-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
But you're assuming they fell below that.


[07-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't determine it was unacceptable.....


[07-Apr-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, this is grating


[07-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
they determined that sweden violated a technicality


[07-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Starscraper#9753
```they didn't determine it was unacceptable.....```
```"It was initially planned to hand over the children to the Swedish side and to release their father. However, he has not been deprived of parental rights, so separating them would be inadmissible," the diplomat added.```


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
"inadmissible", fine. And it was "seperating them", which is what Sweden did, but not directly referencing Sweden's acts.


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Sure.


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
except that's not the argument that the polish courts used


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
you could use that same argument for literally any family, that their "culture was too different from what the children were used to"


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
because "white culture" isn't homogenized either


[07-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
```A Polish court ruled that the Swedish social service had violated an EU convention that forbids the placement of children in foreign cultural environments. The court also noted that Lisov's paternity rights had not been revoked, which is why the children could stay with their father.```


[07-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
yes, "foreign cultural environment" is an incredibly subjective term


[07-Apr-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok let;s say you take some good christian children from a home and put them into my house, My family doesn;t do family dinners, and we also don;t go to church, or do prayers. which by all means would be wildly different to their normal cultural environment


[07-Apr-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are also just above poverty level so it wouldnt be a great idea either


[07-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
Kinda borderline. I dunno.


[07-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
btw, arguing that the swedish government was "right" in taking away the children from the father doesn't mean that allowing the children to go back to their father is "wrong"


[07-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
You know, if we can just leave it like this


[07-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
not another word on it


[07-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
both can be right or wrong, depending on what the context is


[07-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Starscraper#9753
then I'd be fine with dropping it now.


[07-Apr-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we keep trying


[07-Apr-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried earlier


[07-Apr-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5f9b1773746146f7bf7da8466895e170

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Dozens protest in London against Brunei's anti-gay laws
LONDON (AP) — Dozens of people protested in London on Saturday against new Islamic laws in Brunei that punish gay sex and adultery by stoning offenders to death, while the University of Oxford...
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[07-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
I wonder if, at some point, politics could be reduced to a definite science like physics. Enter what values you want to maximize, and so much data and history and psychology and sociology is known, that you can know exactly how to maximize those values. Know exactly where and why people disagree on things.


[07-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
When things are "bias", and when things are the result of a fundamental worldview or foundational assumptions of morality.


[07-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
only if people follow classical mechanics


[07-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Starscraper#9753
Even in quantum, though, you can get a probability function, and maximize probabilities. (or minimize)


[07-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Honahue#0656
but it is still probablity not certainty


[07-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
but how would you do that for people anyway?


[07-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Starscraper#9753
If I knew, it wouldn't be a hypothetical :q


[07-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
politics can be broken down pretty simply into two main bodies of thought, preserving everything as it currently is because it works and changing things to attempt to find something better (not necessarily making things better, just attempting to)


[07-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
>95% of the population falls within one mindset or the other


[07-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
it also leads to the problem we often have now, we put the system in place and the system is good failings of the systems aren't because of it but because of the variables


[07-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
and it isn't fixed either, people can flip-flop between the two, people are just more predisposed to either one or the other


[07-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
that mind set is a huge problem


[07-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
when faced with a new group that people have no previous bias towards (like native americans meeting colonists for the first time), when there isn't scarcity of resources, people will normally be very welcoming and friendly


[07-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
however, if there is scarcity of resources, or the people have a bias towards a specific type of outsider, people are naturally suspicious and unfriendly at best, and murderous at worst


[07-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
most of politics boil down to taking advantage of those two mindsets


[07-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that modern politics has ended up with one side trying to project the "suspicious and unfriendly" argument onto the "welcoming and friendly" mindset, so the people taking advantage of the "welcoming and friendly" mindset have to spend more time saying that they aren't actually being "suspicious and unfriendly" of the other side


[07-Apr-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/shocked-vladimir-putin-slowly-realizing-he-didn-t-consp-1833575011

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[07-Apr-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[07-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
JK rowling wrote the barr summary


[07-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
JK rowling has been weaponized by the US government D:


[07-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/025/817/Screen_Shot_2018-03-30_at_11.34.27_AM.jpg

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[07-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
```
CrowToday at 7:23 PM
politics can be broken down pretty simply into two main bodies of thought,``` The fascinating thing is, there's an unimaginably large number of ways to conceptualize the world, or various parts of it - and some have more predictive power than others.

So it's interesting to think of that whenever someone says "x can be [viewed as]..."

So you're right, but I wonder how many different frameworks would work in different situations, better or worse for different things, etc.


[07-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
I'm talking about natural human thought patterns, this is very well-documented psychology


[07-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201210/why-liberal-hearts-bleed-and-conservatives-dont

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Why politicians have trouble listening to each other
https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/image-article_inline_full/public/blogs/3342/2012/10/107975-105707.jpg?itok=QNMp8BEq


[07-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/psychological-differences-between-conservatives-and-liberals-2018-2

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These key psychological differences can determine whether you're l...
Scientists have studied the brains of conservatives and liberals and found startling differences in how they process information and see the world.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a8edd01391d945e208b456f-1334-667.jpg


[07-Apr-19 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/05/ilhan-omar-death-threat-leads-to-arrest-of-new-york-man/3379387002/

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'I’ll put a bullet in her': Trump supporter charged with threate...
Patrick Carlineo, a supporter of President Donald Trump from New York, was charged with threatening to kill Rep. Ilhan Omar and saying, "Why are you working for her, she's an (expletive) terrorist. I’ll put a bullet in her (expletive) skull."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/17/USAT/87ba844a-78fb-4eb4-aafc-b7ef974a0530-AP_Trump_Jewish_Politics.JPG?crop=3681,2061,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[07-Apr-19 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/cnWfsRoApoU

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https://youtu.be/cnWfsRoApoU
Penn and Teller Vaccine ingredients
From Penn and Teller: Bullshit -- Penn and Teller respond to anti-vax claims about ingredients found in vaccines.
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[07-Apr-19 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Funny


[07-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
Psychology and political proclivity has always been interesting: https://www.elephantjournal.com/2018/02/the-big-five-personality-traits-what-they-mean-for-your-political-views/

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The Big Five Personality Traits & what they mean for your Politica...
We'd all like to believe that human beings share the same set of values and motivations, but I think we know this just isn't the case. We're all a product of both biological and environmental factors�...
https://img.elephantjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/political-belief-openness-conscientious-250x148.jpg


[07-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
Also vaccines


[07-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://i.imgur.com/AKof4wY.jpg

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Re-think vaccines
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[07-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually you can totally make your own car


[07-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho Top Gear had trouble doing it cause you need to use an approved chassis if you use one at all


[07-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most designs are chassis-less, so they had to choose a particular vehicle chassis as a base.


[07-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That particular bit of law was retarded.


[07-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
Aviation is my favorite one


[07-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
Though the axe with firefighters is pretty great, too.


[07-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
Given the way the modern world is, it's almost a wonder that firefighters don't get charged with breaking and entering >.>


[07-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm sure they got some kind of special protections though.


[07-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need any, Necessity Defense has them completely covered.


[07-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
there are other reasons to not do CPR but one of the main ones given is that people are afraid of getting sued, when I took my CPR class they said our state has laws that protect you from that


[07-Apr-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can in fact take an axe and break into a burning building to save people yourself provided there aren't good alternatives.


[07-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bad idea, but it's not illegal.


[07-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
I think you could probably 3D print a car now


[07-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Not a bad way to die :ponythinking:


[07-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
metal 3D printers are incredibly expensive (ranging from $80,000 to over $1,000,000)


[07-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
but we're reaching the point that manufacturing will start turning from traditional manufacturing processes to 3D printing


[07-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
the question is could a metal 3d printed part hold up in an accident


[07-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Honahue#0656
I see they use it in aircraft, but is any of it structural


[07-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY
George Carlin on the American Dream
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[07-Apr-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Comment on this image from another server:


[07-Apr-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
<dea> If you took a handful of sodium and ate it you would blow up, catch on fire, and die in that order. If you breathed in a handful of clorine you would die.  But if a 16 yr old kid making $7/hr forgets to put sodium chloride on your french fries you would yell at the manager for an hour trying to get him fired cause you're an overprivileged, ignorant douche who never worked service a day in your life.


[07-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."


[07-Apr-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
🔥🔥🔥


[07-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
I find it weird that as a teen my dad introduced me to Carlin but now if I was to play Carlin back to him he's literally everything Carlin makes fun of


[07-Apr-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
People often laff at parodies of themselves not realizing they are the problem.


[07-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/05/jake-sherman-anna-palmer-book-excerpt-donald-trump-paul-ryan-mark-meadows-freedom-caucus-shutdown-226569

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How Trump Conspired with the Freedom Caucus to Shut Down the Gover...
Inside the talks and phone calls that convinced Trump to go against the speaker of the House and the Senate majority leader.
https://static.politico.com/f9/42/5f8446f1409cb97f873a0ee77577/bookexcerpt-lede-politicoillustration.jpg


[07-Apr-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/gRpF3qv sound in source

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Sounds on
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[07-Apr-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1114668728992636928

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Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule)
https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1114668728992636928
"Sheldon Adleson likes that esssoggyn, that's the kiddaofguyheeedev." https://t.co/HaW8ji4FYF
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Twitter


[07-Apr-19 01:21 PM] Crow#5457
"I'm looking forward to the "emperor's new clothes" moment when Trump starts speaking entirely in gibberish and Republicans all swear they understood him perfectly."


[07-Apr-19 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-trumps-mental-condition-is-getting-worse-20190405-xzpzzhwbrncfdbbkq3i7d3xdgq-story.html

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Trump’s mental condition seems to be getting worse: He should su...
Two years after organizing a conference at Yale about how mental health professionals could warn the public ethically and effectively, our predictions have borne out to be true: Donald Trump in the office of the presidency has proven more dangerous than people suspected, has ...
https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/BIv6ciWDoyJUiyhktnc8TP0Yk-o=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GGOGPTRMJ5HTRPOIISDKJEM5YM.jpg


[07-Apr-19 02:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remind me what we did when Regan started losing his mind?


[07-Apr-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
around 1994


[07-Apr-19 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least that;s when he was diagnosed


[07-Apr-19 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, right, nothing. We did nothing when he did crazy things in office


[07-Apr-19 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh i misread the question


[07-Apr-19 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woops


[07-Apr-19 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ironically, Regan himself was responsible for a lack of institutional care for mental health in the US


[07-Apr-19 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks for that regan


[07-Apr-19 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(Google OBRA if you want to know more)


[07-Apr-19 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what happens if we go back in time and assassinate regan before he becomes president


[07-Apr-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEriLAM7JA

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AlternateHistoryHub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SEriLAM7JA
What if Reagan Was Never President?
With election on the mind, let's talk about the old Gipper. Stay Informed! Download the "We the People" App! iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/we-the-p...
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[07-Apr-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364525904669442049/564346161465393152/i4epc1epyoq21.png

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[07-Apr-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://forward.com/fast-forward/422069/jared-kushner-middle-east-peace-plan-video/

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Will Kushner Unveil His Middle East Peace Plan With A Flashy Promo...
He may take a cue from his real estate development days and go all out with a marketing strategy, which quite possibly could include a flashy film.
https://images.forwardcdn.com/image/1090x480/center/top/images/cropped/kushner-netanyahu-1503602952.jpg


[07-Apr-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good trump put kushner in charge of peace talks


[07-Apr-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lqnqksgwbqq21.jpg

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[07-Apr-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/04/05/report-blizzard-forbids-okay-symbol-in-overwatch-league-arena-claims-its-a-white-power-symbol/

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John F. Trent
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/04/05/report-blizzard-forbids-okay-symbol-in-overwatch-league-arena-claims-its-a-white-power-symbol/
Report: Blizzard Forbids "Okay" Symbol in Overwatch League Arena -...
Blizzard has reportedly forbidden the "okay" hand symbol in the Overwatch League (OWL) Arena claiming it's a "white power symbol."
https://boundingintocomics.com/files/2019/04/2019.04.05-11.36-boundingintocomics-5ca7e67fc0dac.png


[07-Apr-19 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
👌


[07-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/564117439231688719/57jqhbmkbkq21.png

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[07-Apr-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in other news, giving a friendly hand wave towards another human, is a sign of offensive rape intention


[07-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not the argument and you know it.


[07-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a coordinated effort to turn a common thing into a symbol.


[07-Apr-19 07:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/louisiana-black-church-fires.html

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By RICHARD FAUSSET
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/us/louisiana-black-church-fires.html
3 Black Churches Have Burned in 10 Days in a Single Louisiana Parish
Officials said that they had found “suspicious elements” in each case and that “there is clearly something happening in this community.”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/05/us/05churches1/05churches1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[07-Apr-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b4ca13aa4de544fda5f4533688825347

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US to designate Iran's Guards Corps a terrorist organization
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is preparing to designate Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps as a "foreign terrorist organization" — an unprecedented move that could have widespread...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:d6642da761894084a81a1581a50a5bc2/3000.jpeg


[07-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...Overwatch actually bought into that rubbish huh


[07-Apr-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[07-Apr-19 08:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Someone should also notify them that the milk emoji, according to PETA, is also used as a symbol of white power, and that they need to restrict usage of it as soon as possible 👌🥛


[07-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If only we took this effort and put it into shitting on Epic


[07-Apr-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we still could by all means


[07-Apr-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Epic and EA are turning people communist


[07-Apr-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all it takes is one well placed tweet or such and you have a viral fuckening on your hands


[07-Apr-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people not get told to think about what they say before they say it anymore


[07-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also you can legitimately use "The president does it so it's fine" in regard to behavior


[07-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The GOP trying to crucify Biden is laughable.


[07-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I'm gonna have to draw another Aryanne for this, aren't I :depressed:


[07-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You put Kavanaugh on the Court and elected an admitted sexual assaulter


[07-Apr-19 08:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The PETA thing was funny at least; this is just sad


[07-Apr-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Aryanne a shit


[07-Apr-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think afew other hand gestures have also been poisoned as well but i forget which ones


[07-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
iirc they tried to go after 🤔


[07-Apr-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
emojis were a mistake


[07-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"bolts to the sky" or some nonsense


[07-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop trying to trick the fucking media


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some schools think sign language is gang signs and assume that if it vaguely resembles a gun, it;s intention is to be a gun


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or go ahead


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
emojis are trash


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually we'll get what we should have where journalists are martyrs


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually shitting on the media won't be accepted


[07-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Should have stopped at them asian emoticons


[07-Apr-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
asian emoticons?


[07-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shitting on the media is borderline saying "I just want there to be an American RT"


[07-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(づ￣ ³￣)づ

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[07-Apr-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻


[07-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dance Kirby Dance


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TV news needs soem reformatting and some slight rule changes to help curb the ratings rush, mostly just havign them obtain all the facts first before they report it. but then you also have to force fox news to re-register as a news station and not as an entertainment channel


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No rule changes


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No government intervention at all


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Honahue#0656
The 24 hr news thing isn't helping either


[07-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything, the government and people in it should have limited speech rights about these sorts of things


[07-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An elected official should not be able to publicly criticize a news station the way a regular person can


[07-Apr-19 08:17 PM] Honahue#0656
Politicians get 1st amendment rights too, but you're right that their speech is more power than regular folk


[07-Apr-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump should have limits on what he can say on twitter as well but he would probably jsut ignore those limits anyway


[07-Apr-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Down that road lies Turkey, Its.


[07-Apr-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know about the PKK stuff?


[07-Apr-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[07-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where you can't make fun of Ataturk?


[07-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, the Kurd thing


[07-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What about it?


[07-Apr-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue This is a fundamental inbalance in Free Speech. The richer or more powerful someone is the more they cancel out everyone else's speech.


[07-Apr-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And counterpoint/proving I'm not partisan about this


[07-Apr-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348225722487144458/564521180720267275/ugwt8cl82rq21.png

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[07-Apr-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do we _really_ need this


[07-Apr-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the heck brad


[07-Apr-19 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Now we've really done it https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/health/drug-resistant-candida-auris.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/health/drug-resistant-candida-auris.html
A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy
The rise of Candida auris embodies a serious and growing public health threat: drug-resistant germs.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/08/science/00CANDIDA-auris-hp-promofix/00CANDIDA-auris-hp-promofix-facebookJumbo-v4.jpg


[07-Apr-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Here we go gentlemen.


[07-Apr-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Either we burn and die. Or we get bubonic plague 2


[07-Apr-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
But hey, if the later we may in theory avoid the former and anyone who lives will be set for the material redistribution of shit when the rich all fucking die.


[07-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
We burn and die. C.Auris does not.


[07-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking basically Turkey used to only hav freedom of speech for politicians


[07-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
which meant the PKK could actually say that what Erdogan was doing was evil


[07-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, PKK supporters killed in the streets for saying the same things


[07-Apr-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey moved to not having an exemption for politicians


[07-Apr-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
now PKK is getting crushed much harder.


[07-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe have it so they can talk about politicians then


[07-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not private individuals or companies


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't work


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
companies and individuals can wield power


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
can effectively be politicians


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, Its


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
restrictions on speech become a tool of the right


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
the left is not the right


[07-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
if the left takes the tools of the right, it also gets the morals of the right


[07-Apr-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
The left is taking tools of the right _right now_


[07-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is bad


[07-Apr-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[07-Apr-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm appalled


[07-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the good news is the right's foundation is on fire


[07-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Left has had morals and infighting for too long


[07-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep a few basic tenets and throw out the rest


[07-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not how it works


[07-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Morals and infighting are the entire point of the left


[07-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you remove them it's just the right


[07-Apr-19 11:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
get rid of the 100+ gender quacks and things should be better.


[07-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Abolish gender


[07-Apr-19 11:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@PwnyPony that's a lot of genders


[07-Apr-19 11:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
We can't make a lot of bathrooms


[08-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Don't creep on people in the bathroom


[08-Apr-19 12:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Sure


[08-Apr-19 12:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's pretty understandable if a trans wanted to use their current genders athroom


[08-Apr-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Separating bathrooms entirely exists for sexist reasons


[08-Apr-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire idea is that, like, the sexes shouldn't mix except in marriage, you can't even talk to a woman, so you can't pee next to one


[08-Apr-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
any bullshit people giv about it being to reduce molestation falls flat in regards to homosexuality


[08-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate goal is to make male and female essentially meaningless as distinctions


[08-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
all this nonsense about nonbinary etc. is missing the point and trying to make it meaningless via more distinctions


[08-Apr-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also trying to make it so personally changible that we ignore the physical biology, to try to remove that as a foundation for caring


[08-Apr-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the proper thing to really do is to go "okay so this type is on average more this, but that has no bearing on treating an individual outside of assessing risk factors in medicine"


[08-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/07/politics/kirstjen-nielsen-homeland-security/index.html

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Trump says DHS Secretary Nielsen leaving
Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of Homeland Security who has become a face of President Donald Trump's hardline immigration push, is leaving the administration, President Donald Trump announced on Twitter Sunday afternoon.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181113072209-04-kirstjen-nielsen-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[08-Apr-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
he fires people via twitter


[08-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt he's able to fire someone in a one on one


[08-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has to be remote or with a big crowd


[08-Apr-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but like a privately done pink slip would suffice


[08-Apr-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
no you see


[08-Apr-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
it's because he's a coward


[08-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
but also loves attention


[08-Apr-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he;s a cowardly drama queen who loves dishing it but cant take it at all


[08-Apr-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right actually


[08-Apr-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1114897567593181185

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https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1114897567593181185
Iran breeding in the Middle East 🇮🇷

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[08-Apr-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/DouglasLeih/status/1114944202708738048

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Iran breeding in the Middle East 🇮🇷

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[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
grah


[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ninja'd


[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incorrect


[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was the wrong link...and now it's the wrong preview


[08-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
twitter wtf are you doing?


[08-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/DouglasLeih/status/1114944202708738048

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[08-Apr-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Israeli "Defense" Force


[08-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_XYG-VYhg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_XYG-VYhg
Israeli soldiers use Palestinian child as human shield
A group of Israeli soldiers ambushed and detained a seven-year-old boy during the weekly demonstration in Kafr Qaddum on 23 December 2016 and used him as a h...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vy_XYG-VYhg/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEY60irtwtc

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Matt Christiansen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEY60irtwtc
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[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/portland-police-accused-of-collusion-with-far-right-group-patriot-prayer-6afa7835fb58/

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Luke Barnes
https://thinkprogress.org/portland-police-accused-of-collusion-with-far-right-group-patriot-prayer-6afa7835fb58/
Portland police accused of ‘collusion’ with far-right group Pa...
City officials are now demanding answers.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/GettyImages-1010946436.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1


[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
>The regular and friendly cooperation between the Portland Police Bureau and Patriot Prayer, a far-right group which has taken part in a year-and-half long confrontation with counter-protesters in the city, has been described as “collusion” by one city councilwoman.


[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that was quick


[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
fucking good, clear them out and get some people in there with some actual fucking morals


[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Anyway watch the vid too


[08-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
google is pretty quick


[08-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
the same thing happened in the NSA


[08-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
they were quitting en masse because they realized what they were doing was both immoral and unethical


[08-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well watch the vid too.


[08-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the person's view is interesting.


[08-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's the problem, Crow


[08-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the more moral people leave


[08-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the less moral continue to collaborate with fascists


[08-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to *force* people out


[08-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
from the top


[08-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
based on what they're doing


[08-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
not rely on resignations.


[08-Apr-19 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
reactionary talking heads are grating to listen to because their content relies on appeals to emotion


[08-Apr-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
this guy's way of speaking so far is incredibly patronizing


[08-Apr-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, he keeps referring to the group as "The Mob™" instead of specifying who he's talking about, assuming it's all one homogenous blob


[08-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well he did show some examples of some video clips of what he's referring to as a mob.


[08-Apr-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
3 different examples, just referring to whatever group he's talking against as "The Mob™"


[08-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what would you consider to be sufficient examples?


[08-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
what are you talking about? I'm not saying anything about the examples he gave


[08-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
just that he doesn't specify who these people are, just referring to them all as if they're all one single faceless entity


[08-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
with appeals to emotion instead of laying out the facts in a clear, concise manner


[08-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's incredibly easy to demonize the people he's showing in the examples, they're obviously doing something wrong


[08-Apr-19 07:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well he did mention what the protests were


[08-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
protests aren't people


[08-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
protests are performed by groups of people


[08-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
who's protesting? he's referred to at least 4 unique groups of protestors as "The Mob™"


[08-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
it's obvious they're different groups of people, yet they aren't specified


[08-Apr-19 07:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he has a list of sources in the description. He's probably referring to the one's described there. 
Items referenced:
Portland City Council meeting, 4/2/2019: https://youtu.be/crAvyw5HOUQ
Portland Police Bureau struggling to fill vacant positions: http://bit.ly/2UueRHp
Gateway Pundit report: http://bit.ly/2K6R1gZ 
2016 election riots: https://youtu.be/Uq8u8abDrqE
Cops Helped A Massive Anti-Trump Protest Shut Down I-5 on Wednesday: http://bit.ly/2UC8l12
Cops and kl4n go hand in hand: http://bit.ly/2UCg9Qo 
Antifa mob runs traffic, cops watch: http://bit.ly/2UBZ35e  http://bit.ly/2KaA6tD
Cops didn't want to agitate the mob: http://bit.ly/2UvBUl7
Occupy ICE's biohazard encampment: http://bit.ly/2yCwGa4 
Occupy ICE's skirmish with DHS police: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaXMAraRKj 
Charity food card bullied away: http://bit.ly/2UBsDrF
Mayor refuses to help the feds: http://bit.ly/2UA3IVw 
Mayor thanks the mob: https://youtu.be/cFw3tTm3Ivg
Portland city officials and police consult with DeRay McKesson: http://bit.ly/2UzHDX8 
Mayor says we need to reach out for more diversity: https://youtu.be/Xl7XoAdT6Lo
Oregon legalizes marijuana: http://bit.ly/2UyyWw2

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Portland Police Bureau struggling to fill vacant positions
At a Portland City Council meeting Tuesday, bureau officials explained that several applicants have failed background checks.
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Antifa-Controlled Portland Police Bureau Faces Mass 'Exodus' As 50...
As Portland trends further and further from Democrat to Marxist, the rank-and-file officers of the Portland Police Bureau have been put in the unenviable position of being ordered by the mayor to cater to the far left protesters and rioters like Antifa. At the same time the o...
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euronews (in English)
https://youtu.be/Uq8u8abDrqE
Anti-Trump protest becomes a 'riot' in Portland, Oregon
Demonstrators have taken to the streets across the US for a second day to vent their anger over Donald Trump's presidential election victory. They fear the b...
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Cops Helped A Massive Anti-Trump Protest Shut Down I-5 on Wednesday
For the second time in the very short period Donald Trump has been president-elect, protestors headed to Interstate 5 this evening. And in an exceedingly rare instance befitting this batshit crazy week, the cops even helped. While as many as two thousand protestors marched fr...


[08-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
that's not the point


[08-Apr-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
that was never the fucking point


[08-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then what is your point of contention?


[08-Apr-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
he's patronizingly appealing to emotion instead of just saying the facts of the matter


[08-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
he's dehumanizing "The Mob™" instead of saying who each unique group of protesters are and what they want, he's just lumping them all together as if they're one amorphous blob


[08-Apr-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's already known just by the examples he's giving that they're being unreasonable


[08-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
he doesn't need to be so emotional in his talking


[08-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so emotional? the guy seems fairly calm and monotone throughout the vid.


[08-Apr-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
emotional appeals can be given in monotone


[08-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
but he's not even monotone


[08-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
he's patronizing


[08-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-xTzd23h2Q

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Guardian News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-xTzd23h2Q
Far-right marchers clash with anti-fascists in Portland
A riot was declared in downtown Portland, Oregon on Saturday evening, as the city's worst protest violence of the Trump era erupted. More than 150 supporters...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q-xTzd23h2Q/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that there's just as much far-right violence as far-left in portland


[08-Apr-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
this is what happened during the weimar republic in germany


[08-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
far-right and far-left respond to each other


[08-Apr-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, the comments filled with fascist apologists and far right trolls


[08-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd say the far right is more violent than the far left


[08-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of disheartening to see how badly youtube's comments are trashed on anything that mentions the far-right directly


[08-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
like just mentioning far-right fascists, white supremacists, etc is like a magnet for them to downvote bomb you for daring to point them out


[08-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
and then all the anti-fascist stuff is also trashed by the far right


[08-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or it could simply be people that disagree with those views


[08-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
no, all the comments are literally saying "OMG THESE AREN'T FASCISTS, THEY'RE JUST PATRIOTIC CITIZENS"


[08-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not everyone likes assertions of fascism in political discussions after all.


[08-Apr-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
while the videos showcasing antifa shittiness are also trashed by the far right apologists


[08-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's incredibly rare to see trashy pro-antifa comments on youtube


[08-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Those windows were just asking to be broken


[08-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe that trash can wouldn't have caught fire if it wasn't so flammable


[08-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5718953/

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Cognitive aging in black and white Americans: Cognition, cognitive...
US-based studies have reported that older blacks perform worse than older whites on cognitive tests and have higher risk of Alzheimer disease dementia (AD). It is unclear whether these findings reflect differences in cognitive decline.The Chicago Health ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/corehtml/pmc/pmcgifs/pmc-logo-share.png


[08-Apr-19 11:44 AM] Crow#5457
strange thing to post in politics lol


[08-Apr-19 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
less education has been generally attributed to faster rates of decline because older people who have more education typically prefer mentally engaging pastimes


[08-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest part is keeping the brain active and engaged so that new connections are being formed to combat the connections being destroyed by the toxin


[08-Apr-19 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
obviously the rate that the toxins destroys the brain is higher than the rate at which the brain can replace them, but it slows down the process considerably


[08-Apr-19 11:59 AM] Torr#5078
ok, :caw: :blep:


[08-Apr-19 11:59 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/psp-a0035663.pdf


[08-Apr-19 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-call-kirstjen-nielsen-early-mornings-demanding-she-stop-migrants-1388529

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Donald Trump used to call Kirstjen Nielsen at home in the mornings...
President Donald Trump reportedly demanded that Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen take measures, including some of which were illegal, to stop all migrants from seeking asylum.
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2019/04/08/gettyimages-979580754.jpg


[08-Apr-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not creepy at all and overbearingly threatening at all...


[08-Apr-19 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump's support of renewed child separation policy led to collision with Nielsen https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-has-months-been-urging-administration-reinstate-child-separation-policy-n992021

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Trump's support of renewed child separation policy led to collisio...
A senior administration official believes Trump is convinced family separation has been the most effective policy at deterring asylum-seekers.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_15/2813731/190408-kirstjen-nielsen-cs-931a_eb201e32dc0a3761c6e8bf74b117ae9a.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Apr-19 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1115295440558280704?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1115295440558280704?s=21
The Democrats will never be satisfied, no matter what they get, how much they get, or how many pages they get. It will never end, but that’s the way life goes!
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[08-Apr-19 07:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/randolph-tex-alles-secret-service-director/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/randolph-tex-alles-secret-service-director/index.html
Trump is removing US Secret Service director
United States Secret Service director Randolph "Tex" Alles is being removed from his position, multiple administration officials tell CNN.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160328153318-01-secret-service-super-tease.jpg


[08-Apr-19 07:48 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s enough news posting for me.


[08-Apr-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow trump is really firing a lot of people right now, this is probably leading into an employee purge to find more loyal subordinates


[08-Apr-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There is a near-systematic purge happening at the nation's second-largest national security agency," this official says.

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services director Francis Cissna and Office of the General Counsel's John Mitnick are expected to be gone soon, and the White House is eyeing others to be removed.

The President in recent weeks empowered Stephen Miller to lead the administration's border policies "and he's executing his plan" with what amounts to a wholesale decapitation or the Department of Homeland Security leadership, the official says.


[08-Apr-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/trump-is-removing-us-secret-service-director

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Trump is removing US Secret Service director
United States Secret Service director Randolph "Tex" Alles is being removed from his position, multiple administration officials said.
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[08-Apr-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1115329371777249283

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The Onion (@TheOnion)
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1115329371777249283
ISIS Adds Few Violent White Supremacists In Bid To Get U.S. To Rescind Terrorist Designation https://t.co/wGHCpSsjQf
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[08-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Didn't know Onion started covering real stories


[09-Apr-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/437926-trump-administration-threatens-veto-of-net-neutrality-bill

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Trump administration threatens veto of net neutrality bill
The White House on Monday threatened to veto House Democrats’ bill to reinstate net neutrality rules as the legislation heads toward a vote.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/fcc_net_neutrality_vote_1.jpg


[09-Apr-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i amso shocked


[09-Apr-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly


[09-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/lens/what-if-mexico-still-included-california-nevada-and-texas.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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What if Mexico Still Included California, Nevada and Texas?
Tomas van Houtryve followed Mexico’s long-forgotten northern boundary to meet families who have lived in the region, now forming part of the United States, for centuries.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/03/lens/03Border4/03Border4-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[09-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Macarou#9574
I wish this article answered it's question, but it was a decent read.


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[09-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Starscraper#9753
```and then all the anti-fascist stuff is also trashed by the far right``` They lost their credability when they started trying to use violence and terror tactics to keep a gay jew from speaking at an event on free speech on the grounds of him being a Nazi.


[09-Apr-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
you completely missed the point of the statement


[09-Apr-19 05:36 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm more concerned about the people _actually using fascist tactics_ than the people that they claim are fascists - which is just about anyone who disagrees with them, really.


[09-Apr-19 05:37 AM] Starscraper#9753
The only far-right motions I see are almost, if not entirely, a result of people getting very fed up with how far left much of the country and discourse is going.


[09-Apr-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
we've had presidents lefter than public discourse today


[09-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Cause actually murdering people is just being fed up


[09-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Starscraper#9753
Knowing like, 3 different people who are inching towards it, it's very plain and obvious that they're doing it because of how toxic and hypocritical the far left is.


[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
This is kind a tip-of-the-iceburg example of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAlAITCBprI

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Battlefield V: Inclusive Revisionism
Games are quickly becoming propaganda outlets themselves. I wonder how pop culture will depict WW2 in 2042? https://twitter.com/AmericanKrogan
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[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Honahue#0656
That says a lot about the right


[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Honahue#0656
Why do people care so much about video games?


[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like I said, it's just a "tip-of-the-iceburg" example of it.


[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/1429cbCOMIC-socialists-from-the-future.jpg

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[09-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Honahue#0656
No one cares that a fat plumber can leap five times his height


[09-Apr-19 05:40 AM] Honahue#0656
But shrinks Lara Crofts tits and it's the end of the world


[09-Apr-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh I think Prince Harry trying to crack down on Fortnite may have more to do with the microtransactions than the meme dances


[09-Apr-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though the latter wouldn't surprise me either


[09-Apr-19 05:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
as soon as video games start to leak into social issues, it becomes significant


[09-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, but they care about the general and pervasive mindset that it's totally okay to erase any and all contributions white men have to history, while altering history to fit their narrative of strong and heroic women and oppressed blacks.


[09-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like, blacks were oppressed


[09-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Starscraper#9753
but they didn't even portray that accurately.


[09-Apr-19 05:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Video games have always had politics in them they just had politics you agreeded with or you weren't aware of them


[09-Apr-19 05:42 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like, the whole BFV thing was just a crapshow


[09-Apr-19 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
All art is subject to the politics of the era it was made


[09-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Starscraper#9753
"Wtf? There weren't cyborg women on the front lines!"
"You just hate women! Don't buy the game!"


[09-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes because battlefield is known for it's historical accuracy


[09-Apr-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
since there's people here who would actually consider my statement beyond "antifa good", what I meant by `and then all the anti-fascist stuff is also trashed by the far right` is that there's no anti-fascists going around trashing youtube comments of far right videos, but there's tons and tons of the far right going around trashing everything that even mentions anti-fascists, whether it's positive, neutral, or negative


[09-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
and also like I said earlier, I've never actually seen an example of trashy pro-antifa comments on youtube


[09-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's never been terribly accurate, but it's never been cyborg-women-jumping-out-windows insane. And the silliness is kept to multiplayer gameplay, typically. BF1 was very respectful and had great storytelling.


[09-Apr-19 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Assassin's also didn't have spring loaded hidden blades but everyone just thought that was cool


[09-Apr-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
only trashy pro-far right comments and trashy anti-antifa comments from the far right


[09-Apr-19 05:45 AM] Starscraper#9753
I'm talking about BF, specifically.


[09-Apr-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact there's even people who unironically say that antifa isn't okay


[09-Apr-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to me grounds for rooting out fascism


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
```CrowToday at 9:45 PM
only trashy pro-far right comments and trashy anti-antifa comments from the far right```
Probably a reflection of the general public's perception. I don't think anyone feels a need to trash on Nazis. Like, their existence is enough to trash on themselves. Saying, "killing millions of innocent people is bad" is kind of redundant.


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've got a pretty serious case of fascism if the one group whose sole objective is to oppose it is being cast as bad.


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that george orwell (the writer of 1984) was an antifascist who fought in italy during ww2


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well it's because they're using fascist and terror tactics and targetting people who definitely are not "fascist".


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I have no skin in the game on battlefield cause I've never played one but I have played other games some vaguely historical too and they aren't actually that accurate either


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they aren't.


[09-Apr-19 05:46 AM] Starscraper#9753
Except they are?


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because fascists want to say getting punched is tantamount to what fascists do.


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit, prove it.


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
Okay, firstly, how do you define a "fascist", for the purposes of your argument?


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you say "any violence for political gain is terrorism", fukk your redefinining of things to fit your connotational desires in advance.


[09-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
People are literally defending Nazis nowadays


[09-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
A fascist is someone who advocates or enforces a system of authoritarian governance using defined types of people that should be removed from society


[09-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
Oh here I know how to define a fascist


[09-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
the main argument being used against antifa is that there's a bunch of trash being left over in places like portland oregon where antifa groups are rallying thousands of people to counter-protest against white supremacists and nazis which usually only get like 200 people max


[09-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

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[09-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
generally on grounds of ethnicity or other inherent qualities that aren't personal decisions


[09-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Guy grew up under Mussolini


[09-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
It's only 9 pages


[09-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists are, ideologically, "there's bad people who are bad because they were born ____ and you must giv supreme authority to put them down"


[09-Apr-19 05:50 AM] Honahue#0656
But he uses 14 characteristics to define fascism, you don't need all 14 because that's part of how fascism works it's adaptable


[09-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[09-Apr-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You might need to provide a mirror.


[09-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, I don't tend to follow figureheads that much, but I know antifa has gone after both Jordan Peterson and Milo Yinnapolis.

Find me clips, in-context quotes of _both_ of them saying that 
1. "all people born a certain way should be purged from society, and 
2. the state must have supreme authority to carry that out", 
and I'll give you a goal.


[09-Apr-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Googled "14 characteristics of fascism" and it seems to be everywhere. Here's the first result https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html


[09-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
Where #1. must be on the basis of ethnicity, sexuality or disability.


[09-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
Honestly I figure you might be able to squeeze Milo into saying those by misquoting or pulling out of context. But with Peterson, you're screwed.


[09-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I'm in my phone there's a few PDFs but phones are sometimes awful for linking


[09-Apr-19 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only ones I don't have a solid case for right now in the US are 8 and possibly 11


[09-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
You don't need all 14


[09-Apr-19 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, you don't, I'm just surprised that we almost have a full set


[09-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Full house


[09-Apr-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though that's just from looking exclusively at Trump. For sure, the other two are more than made up for by the rest of it


[09-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
lol


[09-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
My 2 things cover...let's see...1,2,3,5,7,8,12,13,14


[09-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause supreme authority generally means sham elections and so on


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
11 is true 8 is iffy but evenagelicals are a voting block


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
To amend slightly


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
But yeah there's a definition of facist


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
It's kinda a bullcrap list.


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Why?


[09-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Starscraper#9753
I mean, it, for the most part, describes _every_ country during WWII, for example.


[09-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[09-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Nationalism was hella popular


[09-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like, if England and the US during WWII both count as "fascist", then your definition of "fascist" is useless.


[09-Apr-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's hardly what this is saying


[09-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
And then you're just trying to point out some vague and irrelevant connection to connote that a country is somehow like - and therefore somehow comparable to - Nazi Germany.


[09-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is about:
1 People have no rights. Only organizations, *especially the state and its enforcement appendages*, matter.
2 These people were born "bad", fear/hate them and hurt them or else.
3 Anyone who tells you otherwise or asks you to think is also "bad".
3 Manipulate/force anything to conform to this.


[09-Apr-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I'm pretty sure you'd agree that England was a *tiny bit* more cognizant of human rights than Germany


[09-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Not in India


[09-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Or Ireland


[09-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
But for their own people sure


[09-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that stage both places weren't dealing with major abuses.


[09-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
India was


[09-Apr-19 06:02 AM] Starscraper#9753
Lol, reminds me of this: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/26/14/2915619F00000578-0-image-a-60_1432648316213.jpg

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[09-Apr-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, those 4 contain the essence of fascism


[09-Apr-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think that pivot to talking about India misses the point that these things aren't just characteristics, they're *end goals* for fascism


[09-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
My life for the state, may the state hurt the _____s, don't tell us to think, anything even corrupt serving this is morally okay


[09-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Fascism.


[09-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Fascism is a suicide spiral


[09-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism's *goal* is to perpetually keep a minority oppressed while saying said minority is evil.


[09-Apr-19 06:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Once you've purged the blacks then you Purge the Jews then the Irish and so on no one is pure enough so it's unsutainable


[09-Apr-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, there's no magic threshold you cross where you suddenly have a fascist state - the threshold where there's "no turning back" happens well before you hit holocaust status


[09-Apr-19 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Either way, I wouldn't say Peterson or Milo are facist but they are adjacent to it


[09-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Milo doesn't care either way on human rights.


[09-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Starscraper#9753
Both have been rather strongly opposed by Antifa, though. Esp. Milo.


[09-Apr-19 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Peterson is just a very loud reactionary, imo


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
lol


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm looking forward to April 19


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, he's gotta be the loudest quiet person I've ever seen.


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Zizek v Peterson


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
guy's a wackjob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImHh7fqrQo

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[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Battle of kermit vs shniffs


[09-Apr-19 06:07 AM] Starscraper#9753
He didn't even want to go political except the media kinda forced it on him by making it that way - Peterson.


[09-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Also yeah, Milo's a jester.


[09-Apr-19 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, regardless of his stances, I can't stand him for the same reasons I can't stand Neil DeGrasse Tyson talking about any scientific topic other than astrophysics - he's obnoxious


[09-Apr-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
ah yes it's totally okay to joke about pedophilia during a political interview


[09-Apr-19 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like, maybe he's right, I wasn't really listening, but can you cite a source that won't fill me with rage?


[09-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
Peterson is Bae. I just wish he was American so I could vote for him, lol.


[09-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
NDT has said some dumb stuff out of his area of specialty


[09-Apr-19 06:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I kinda feel like Peterson has done the same


[09-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Peterson's a hack


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the issue with Milo in that interview is he was trained to just go into weird political tangents


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to drown people out with things to push the right's agenda


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Wash your penis bucko


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
Peterson is the hero we need, not the one we deserve.


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
Milo is the hero we deserve, not the one we need, lol.


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they didn't realize he had one particular facet that was a complete wrench in the plan


[09-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Starscraper#9753
The crappost of a figure.


[09-Apr-19 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Peterson make half an argument and then a conclusion so the audience can fill in the other half that would support the conclusion for them


[09-Apr-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie ,which facet


[09-Apr-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing on pedophilia


[09-Apr-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was something they would've trained away talking about


[09-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Even NPR has had a segment or two on the idea of research pedophilia, it's not that far out there but it's political suicide so it won't happen anytime soon


[09-Apr-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
What he said is political cyanide, just dumped all over the stage.


[09-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Starscraper#9753
"If there's one thing authoritarians hate, it's the sound of laughter, because they know they can't control it." Oh man. Didn't expect such a bombshell.

I agree more with the first half. I think they hate it more because it doesn't recognize their ideology as the most important thing in the world, and there is no authoritarianism without some ideology driving it, that justifies and fuels it. And it exists on the premise that nothing is more important than the ideology.

"If you don't show up to debate, you lose."


[09-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
>hate the sound of laughter
>Trump has cancelled the White House dinner again
:ponythinking:


[09-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
>Aside from Reagan, Presidents Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon also skipped WHCDs.


[09-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
(reagan skipped one because he was recovering from the assassination attempt)


[09-Apr-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
that's... not a very good track record tbh


[09-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
>The last president to outright skip the event was Jimmy Carter, who did so twice — in 1980 and 1978. Richard Nixon also skipped it twice — in 1974 and 1972. Nixon warned the press he would do so and followed through. Trump called the press the "enemy of the American people," in a tweet recently. That echoes Nixon, who told the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "The press is your enemy."


[09-Apr-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Also you lose if your opponent in a debate doesn't debate in good faith


[09-Apr-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
that's the whole point of bad faith, it makes the audience feel like you won even though you technically lost


[09-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
So if you don't debate you lose and if you do you look like you lose


[09-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
unless you know you're arguing with someone who's doing so in bad faith, there's ways of making them look like the shitty people they are


[09-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
it involves subtle mocking without outright attacking them


[09-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
and can be considered a form of arguing in bad faith in and of itself


[09-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
the point is to make them look weak without outright calling them weak, or else they can play the victim card


[09-Apr-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
basically make them so frustrated that they drop the act and start acting obviously shitty


[09-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
but you can never go on the attack, or else you lose all the progress you made


[09-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Only debate I care about is Zizek v Peterson coming up


[09-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
It's going to be wild


[09-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Zizek has torrettes or something course he has a billion ticks, a slur and an accent


[09-Apr-19 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
And Peterson always sounds like he's just on the verge of tears


[09-Apr-19 06:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bring Lacan back from the dead and let he and Peterson fight.


[09-Apr-19 06:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wait, that might imply Peterson is on the same level as Lacan.


[09-Apr-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
https://youtu.be/7xYO-VMZUGo

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Slavoj Žižek on Synthetic Sex and "Being Yourself"
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[09-Apr-19 07:29 AM] Starscraper#9753
```and can be considered a form of arguing in bad faith in and of itself
the point is to make them look weak without outright calling them weak, or else they can play the victim card
basically make them so frustrated that they drop the act and start acting obviously shitty
but you can never go on the attack, or else you lose all the progress you made``` Well that somewhat explains my debates with you.

And yes, I would say that's doing it in bad faith and a reprehensible approach to debates.

I'll credit Peterson for stating the obvious, that debates should be two parties trying to arrive at a mutual truth, so that both are enriched.


[09-Apr-19 07:30 AM] Starscraper#9753
You never debate a person. People come and go and are ultimately inconsequential. You debate an idea, because ideas are what really matter.


[09-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
except I've never used that technique before


[09-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
I'm too blunt to do that


[09-Apr-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
I was just repeating what I heard from elsewhere


[09-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, you emulate what you admire better than you think.


[09-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
I don't admire the technique either, can you say anything that isn't an assumption?


[09-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
No, actually.


[09-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Starscraper#9753
If you want to get really reductionist nothing isn't.


[09-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
it's not an assumption if you can provide evidence of your claims


[09-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
if you make a statement that you can't prove, it's an assumption


[09-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Starscraper#9753
But "there's ways to make them look like the shitty people they are" sure made it sound like you liked the idea, and the context and way you presented it sure seemed to indicate an admiration of it.


[09-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
okay, so people who argue in bad faith are shining ethical beacons, got it


[09-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't that such an easy assumption to make?


[09-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well, you said that like you carried an assumption that you were arguing with someone shitty ("the shitty people they are"), and the tone and context makes it look like you're trying to make them "look like the shitty people they are".

But it's interesting you somehow conflated what I was saying, (when I was saying that it was reprehensible to use such tactics and argue in bad faith) to somehow mean I was saying people who argue in bad faith are ethical beacons, and do so in an inflammatory exagerrative manner.


[09-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Starscraper#9753
So not only did you conflate what I said to the exact opposite, but you did it in an inflammatory way.


[09-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
you literally missed the point of my statement in order to attack me instead of the point that I was making about how incredibly easy it is to make an assumption


[09-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Starscraper#9753
So, you're actually showing, despite your claim that you don't admire the technique, that you admire it quite a bit, by attempting to use it on me.


[09-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
no, I showed you how easy it is to make an inflammatory assumption


[09-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Starscraper#9753
Indeed you have.


[09-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Starscraper#9753
But if your goal was never to use such a technique, then I'd question why you included the phrase, "can you say anything that isn't an assumption?", when, "I don't admire the technique" would have sufficed, or even said "I didn't mean that I admired it, I was just presenting it".

And again, I wonder why you presented it the way you did if you didn't actually mean to endorse it, because the way you presented it sure looked like an endorsement and guide. 

But instead of looking at the evidence, which you claimed to value, you passive-aggressively claimed that I commonly make assumptions instead of presenting evidence that you don't actually endorse it.

I definitely could've fallen for the ploy if I wasn't more attentive or let myself take the bait.


[09-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Starscraper#9753
But rather than present that evidence, you decided to prove that you do admire the strategy - or at least, prove that you emulate it.


[09-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
you've already fallen into the trap of thinking your own assumptions are facts, there's not much more I could do that you haven't already done to yourself lol


[09-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Starscraper#9753
Like I said, if from the beginning you just said you didn't admire it, but presented it, I would've been suspicious at how much the presentation looked like an endorsement, but had no proof.

But then you had to prove you emulated it by doing so with a passive-aggressive implication and then strawmanning me in an inflammatory manner.


[09-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
why would I have to say that I admire it from the beginning? I was just talking about it


[09-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
and then you came in here and started assuming all over the place


[09-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well the implications that you were endorsing it were all over the place.

`there's ways of making them look like the shitty people they are`
First off, you're calling the "other person" a "shitty [person]", which means you're already putting your empathy with the other party, here. You're a lot more likely to call someone else you're arguing with a "shitty person" than yourself.

`and can be considered a form of arguing in bad faith in and of itself`
__can be__ is important, because that makes it sound like you're presenting something you didn't already assume is morally reprehensible, but that's the sort of language you use when you admit that something you're presenting is morally grey.

`basically make them so frustrated that they drop the act and start acting obviously shitty` Again implying the other person is shitty.

Granted, it's consistent with just presenting something you consider shady/grey, not necessarily _endorsing_.

But then you immediately started using it, a little bit with the passive-aggressive `can you say anything that isn't an assumption?` and a whole lot with `okay, so people who argue in bad faith are shining ethical beacons, got it`.

So you may not know you like the strategy, but as I said from the outset,
`you emulate what you admire better than you think.`


[09-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Starscraper#9753
But who cares - scratch it all, pointless to argue about individuals, I'll just stop with this.


[09-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
because you literally assumed that I admired the technique because I said that people who argue in bad faith are shitty, that is an assumption


[09-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
as much as you attempt to break down and analyze every single word to justify it, it's still an assumption


[09-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
because I don't fucking admire it


[09-Apr-19 09:19 AM] Starscraper#9753
Well you phrased it to sound like it was a way that you suggested that "can be considered a form of arguing in bad faith in and of itself" that was a way to "make them look like the shitty people they are". Maybe I misinterpreted.


[09-Apr-19 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/08/trump-calls-netanyahu-your-prime-minister-jewish-american-event/3398487002/

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Trump criticized for calling Netanyahu 'your prime minister' at Je...
"Mr. President, words matter," tweeted the ADL's CEO. "its critical for you to avoid language that leads people to believe Jews aren’t loyal Americans."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/08/USAT/7df384b4-8b9f-43f2-8d49-a8f68cb52139-AP_Trump_8.JPG?crop=2376,1336,x1406,y1058&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[09-Apr-19 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
>Didn’t everyone condemn @IlhanMN for making less offensive comments about dual loyalty??


[09-Apr-19 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[09-Apr-19 01:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/09/brazil-replaces-far-right-education-minister-with-conspiracy-theorist

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/09/brazil-replaces-far-right-education-minister-with-conspiracy-theorist
Brazil replaces far-right education minister with conspiracy theorist
President Jair Bolsonaro’s replacement for Ricardo Vélez has blamed communists for introducing crack
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f1c5a8230a434f563840c76a95cee7c3dbbb7f85/1353_574_4120_2472/master/4120.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&s=c4002165127ab7cf090c9b4b1bd5cd31


[09-Apr-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did


[09-Apr-19 01:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"After his appointment was announced on Monday, Weintraub praised Bolsonaro’s intellectual guru Olavo de Carvalho – a former astrologer and philosopher who berates his enemies with obscenity-laden YouTube videos from his home in Richmond, Virginia, and has questioned whether the world revolves around the sun."


[09-Apr-19 01:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
De Carvalho also once accused Pepsi of putting aborted fetus matter into their soda.


[09-Apr-19 01:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil is not for noobs.


[09-Apr-19 01:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
another example being the porn actor Alexandre Frota who ended up being elected on Bolsonaro's party platform as a conservative


[09-Apr-19 01:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a porn actor become conservative politician.


[09-Apr-19 01:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
again, not for noobs.


[09-Apr-19 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brazil seems to be on several drugs all at once


[09-Apr-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/trump-federal-reserve-republicans-1262560

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/trump-federal-reserve-republicans-1262560
Trump’s Fed threats meet a firewall: GOP lawmakers
The president has railed against the nation’s central bank for removing the extraordinary economic support put in place during the last recession.
https://static.politico.com/69/fb/667b1fd34fcab656d8e8be93ce92/190408-donald-trump-gty-773.jpg


[09-Apr-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically he wants to take it back to the conditions that caused the 2008 recession


[09-Apr-19 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/africa/libya-airstrike-tripoli-airport-intl/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/africa/libya-airstrike-tripoli-airport-intl/index.html
Libya's UN-backed government calls airport airstrike a 'war crime'
Tripoli's only working airport was targeted in an airstrike on Monday, as forces loyal to renegade Libyan general Khalifa Haftar continued their advance on the capital, ignoring international calls for a truce.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190408205302-01-libya-tripoli-airstrike-0408-super-tease.jpg


[09-Apr-19 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
not sure how to feel about this situation


[09-Apr-19 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Haftar, as a strongman, could, on paper, bring unity and stability to Libya, and curtail the chaos raging in the country


[09-Apr-19 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which could curtail the profitability of the infamous slave markets


[09-Apr-19 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or Haftar, as a strongman bent on uniting the country and relieving tensions, could still make some sort of secret deal with the slave marketers


[09-Apr-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vecjd9iad4r21.jpg

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[09-Apr-19 04:56 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[09-Apr-19 06:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/mOUA7lVfMHU

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https://youtu.be/mOUA7lVfMHU
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[09-Apr-19 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Capitalism ho


[09-Apr-19 06:56 PM] Mikey#7286
""""""competition""""""


[09-Apr-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's completely legit what Epic does


[09-Apr-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Throwing money at publishers and promising them more money


[09-Apr-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh I wish they would just say "Uhh Epic gave us a shitload of money to go exclusive, no fucking shit we chose it?"


[09-Apr-19 06:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Steam: offers 70% of revenue to developers/publishers until 50mill, then 80%


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
It's anti-consumer


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Epic: 88% flat rate of revenue to developers/publishers


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Steam also isn't spyware


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
That 12% isn't free


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally the only group to benefit from the split


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Epic can't afford it


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are the ones Epic throws money at


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Consumers also don't matter when the newest Metro has sales 50% higher than the previous installments.


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
So Epic has winning numbers


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
So they charge a fee on top of it


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it cheaper?


[09-Apr-19 06:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
That they can sell to others.


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
To users


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I just want the games to be cheaper


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll download 500 installers if games can be 40/50 regularly


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Not gonna happen


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to capitalism then


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
If anything


[09-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Games will go up in price


[09-Apr-19 07:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you gonna keep buying at 60 dollars or more for something with minimal material cost and no scarcity


[09-Apr-19 07:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then they will keep charging 60 dollars


[09-Apr-19 07:01 PM] Mikey#7286
If it's worth $60 I'll gladly pay


[09-Apr-19 07:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
If anything, a third of that cost is development cost


[09-Apr-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder


[09-Apr-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How much of the $60 I spend goes to the people who actually made the game


[09-Apr-19 07:02 PM] Mikey#7286
Whether it has enuff worthy content or massive replayability


[09-Apr-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Under a dollar?


[09-Apr-19 07:02 PM] Mikey#7286
Who even knows


[09-Apr-19 07:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking If I wasn't waiting and was at home and I could open a dozen tabs I would find out


[09-Apr-19 07:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Should be calculable from costs, sales, average wages, and numbers of people on a team


[09-Apr-19 07:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since people aren't paid in proportion to sales and wages by nature are a flat rate, being of higher value only in so far as someone is deemed of higher value


[09-Apr-19 07:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
But each unit sold doesn't represent a kick back.


[09-Apr-19 07:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Once unit sales reach a point that wages for it's development are paid, all other value is used to pay off something else, liscensing fees or hardware.


[09-Apr-19 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And admin costs


[09-Apr-19 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And finally company profits.


[09-Apr-19 07:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
So to the developers at the desk it doesn't matter if they sell 20 million or 50 million in units because I doubt they'll see substantial bonuses.


[09-Apr-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.propublica.org/article/congress-is-about-to-ban-the-government-from-offering-free-online-tax-filing-thank-turbotax

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https://www.propublica.org/article/congress-is-about-to-ban-the-government-from-offering-free-online-tax-filing-thank-turbotax
Congress Is About to Ban the Government From Offering Free Online ...
A bill supported by Democrats and Republicans would make permanent a program that bars the IRS from ever developing its own online tax filing service.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20190409-turbotax-free-file-1200x630.jpg


[09-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, they're about to enshrine very hard that the IRS can never, ever do what basically every other western country has done to make taxes easier


[09-Apr-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's going to be another 50 years of tax companies giving you a free option that constantly pesters you about paying to get better features as they do the bare minimum to find you deductions.


[09-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@AaronMk agreed, these people never worked at software company.


[09-Apr-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Hot take: Games don't need to be sold cheaper


[09-Apr-19 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
You need to make more money


[09-Apr-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could apply the same to literally any industry in America


[09-Apr-19 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[09-Apr-19 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Welcome to America 🇺🇸


[09-Apr-19 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Gamers, rise up


[09-Apr-19 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Against your bosses


[09-Apr-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/uk/waitrose-ducklings-scli-intl-gbr/index.html in dumber news

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/uk/waitrose-ducklings-scli-intl-gbr/index.html
Store withdraws chocolate ducklings over racism complaint
Grocery chain Waitrose has apologized after being accused of racism over the names of three chocolate ducklings.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190409131833-01-waitrose-easter-ducklings-super-tease.jpg


[09-Apr-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Bullshit story


[09-Apr-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck off CNN


[09-Apr-19 10:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1115716910556090368?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1115716910556090368?s=21
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! https://t.co/diXWQHuyGj
Retweets
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Twitter


[09-Apr-19 10:46 PM] illumnious#7938
And what kind of fucking news was that?


[09-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/rathaunique/status/1115717117016530945?s=19

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i don't follow back... (@rathaunique)
https://twitter.com/rathaunique/status/1115717117016530945?s=19
@realDonaldTrump
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3vSzMVXkAAAceV.jpg:large
Twitter


[09-Apr-19 10:49 PM] illumnious#7938

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/565277055638306831/image0.jpg


[09-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Honahue#0656
Fucking Batman music


[09-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[09-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
that video was just


[09-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
wow


[09-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Mikey#7286
talk about patting yourself on the back


[10-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
or sucking your own cock


[10-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
like steve bannon


[10-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
:nut:


[10-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Starscraper#9753
https://imgur.com/gallery/BRvXosB

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https://imgur.com/gallery/BRvXosB
How Xi Jinping rolls up to the UN knowing nobody’s gonna say shit about his Uyghur internment camps
https://i.imgur.com/Q136HMOh.jpg


[10-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
this is a man Trump called a "a great gentleman" and said “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll want to give that a shot someday.” when he became president for life


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Mikey#7286
why does trump keep validating dictators and calling them "great men" or "beautiful men"


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Mikey#7286
they're far from great men


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🏳️‍🌈


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Mikey#7286
they can't even be considered "decent" or "eh" or even bad


[10-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Mikey#7286
they're horrible people


[10-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's jealous of the amount of control they have


[10-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They _can_ run their country like how Trump ran his businesses


[10-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Trump can't treat his office like his businesses


[10-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
the only way NK will live a better life and prosperity under Kim Jong Un is if he's fucking _DEAD_


[10-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
he's a dictator who cares little for his people


[10-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[10-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
he is


[10-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Mikey#7286
trump would love to be "president for life"


[10-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He did at least honor the results of 2018s election


[10-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[10-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what's sad


[10-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Biden stuff _should_ be seen as bad


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the GOP has operated for two years on "women lie" and "accusations mean nothing"


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So people are brushing it off


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh I think it actually makes people _like_ the accused more


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
he said "he never intended to make anyone uncomfortable"


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[10-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His plagiarism and phony degree didn't stop him


[10-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would this


[10-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
his what?


[10-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's gonna be him or Sanders


[10-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Exactly.


[10-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
no i'm serious


[10-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Seriously though he plagiarized a speech during an early run and had a fake degree)


[10-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[10-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
also what about him and sanders?


[10-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
in the generals?


[10-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[10-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
you don't think Warren will make it?


[10-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No way


[10-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I legitimately think Buttigieg has a better chance


[10-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is Hillary Lite in terms of electability


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
imagine if we get a gay president


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We've probably already had one


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
conservatives and the GOP would shit their pants, and all the far right supporters


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
what?


[10-Apr-19 02:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how'd that be any different from a straight president


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
besides the GOP uproar


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
that's p much it lol


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(and that's nothing new, see: Obama)


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Litrojia#0612
I don't think anyone will go for Warren as long as Bernie is around, and if something happens to him then the other progressive candidates will step up to the plate


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg offered to sit down with Chik Fil A and talk


[10-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First meme of the election


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
well idk having a gay president isn't the same as a black one


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
does it matter


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's no stereotype.


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ultimately no lmao


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
conservatives are more opposed to homosexuals


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it's irrelevant


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
no they're not


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
how do you figure?


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
they hate non-whites just as much as non-straights


[10-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His name is a bigger obstacle than his orientation


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because no one can pronounce it


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i find it hard to believe conservatives are as racist as they are homophobic


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
some are sure


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(It's "boot edge edge")


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
but i doubt as many as homophobes


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(fuck I've been mispronouncing it)


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or "Buddha judge"


[10-Apr-19 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
you underestimate conservatives


[10-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[10-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
cawnservatives


[10-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-election-exit-poll-intl/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-election-exit-poll-intl/index.html
Netanyahu's re-election plans in limbo as election too close to call
Benjamin Netanyahu's hopes of securing a record fifth term as Israeli Prime Minister are on hold for the moment after exit polls showed a tight election race with his main rival on Tuesday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190408165445-01-netanyahu-gantz-split-super-tease.jpg


[10-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
:murder:


[10-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
:caw:


[10-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
netanyahu's going to win


[10-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
sad


[10-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Litrojia#0612
Growing up in a conservative place, I never saw any open racism among them, but lots of folks (including my dad) are in the anti-gay marriage camp


[10-Apr-19 02:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also like, race and gender shouldn't even be a factor in determining an election winner; simple as that


[10-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Litrojia#0612
I think racism among conservatives is overblown on the internet


[10-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[10-Apr-19 02:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's probably just due to "reporting bias"


[10-Apr-19 02:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
only the most flagrantly racist/SJW people on the right/left are going to get written about


[10-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
because the stereotypical conservative troll on the internet is constantly spewing racist bullshit to be edgy


[10-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot easier to get away with racism when anonymous


[10-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Mikey#7286
also, there's honestly a difference between being homophobic and being against homosexuality


[10-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Officially, it's up to Israel's President to decide who is tasked with forming the next government. He announces his decision after consulting with the heads of the political parties that have secured enough votes to enter the Knesset. These consultations take a few days, and the President is likely to announce his decision about a week after the elections.


[10-Apr-19 02:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in terms of connotation, yeah


[10-Apr-19 02:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in terms of actual beliefs, only slightly


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
not all anti-gay people hate gays, they're just against the act


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
how is that effectively any different


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
just because you don't like the act doesn't mean you're homophobic


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the stupidest most meaningless distinction I've ever head of


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
no, that's dumb and your reasoning is dumb


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
homopobia is just hating gay people


[10-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
no it's not?


[10-Apr-19 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's as much hating the act as it is the people


[10-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
so being like, someone religious and saying "i don't agree with your lifestyle but i still like you as a friend" is still homophobic?


[10-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
that makes no sense to me


[10-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's really hard to argue logically that homophobia and "against homosexuality" aren't one and the same, even though the terms are technically different


[10-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Litrojia#0612
In theory, there's definitely a difference between opposing gay relationships and hating people for being gay, though in practice they probably go hand-in-hand more often than not


[10-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Mikey#7286
that's what homophobia is, hating someone for being gay and nothing else


[10-Apr-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the overlap is pretty large, though


[10-Apr-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it's safe to say a *majority* of those opposing gay relations also hate gays


[10-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Mikey#7286
that much I agree with


[10-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Litrojia#0612
like I hear the arguments that "marriage" is by definition between a man and a woman, or that the point of marriage is to make children, and I think you can hold those views and still respect people that are gay since it's just one lifestyle difference


[10-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
speaking of marriage,


[10-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
i really think the government should have no say in it at all


[10-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
straight or gay


[10-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-backs-bill-barring-irs-from-offering-free-tax-filing-services/2019/04/09/f9eba6ee-5ae9-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
>The bill includes other changes to the nation’s tax collection agency such as protections from private debt collectors and millions of dollars in program assistance for low-income taxpayers.


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
sigh


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
sounds like the irs ban thing is a rider on a good bill


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
so the reason why the house passed the bill which outlaws the IRS from allowing free tax filing services online is because of other parts of the bill being deemed more important


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
because the GOP _had_ to fuck it up


[10-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
naturally


[10-Apr-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[10-Apr-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's just how a rider be :sad:


[10-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Third Way in a nutshell.


[10-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll giv you consumer protection but only if you let us make permanent the thing preventing us from having a sane tax system.


[10-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a compromise that shouldn't hav to be made, but Republicans are evil shits.


[10-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is that come 2021 we can get President Bernie to push thru a bill that just cuts out the "no IRS free file" bit.


[10-Apr-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
you need congress to do this


[10-Apr-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats have to control congress by at least a majority


[10-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
^^


[10-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Litrojia#0612
most important thing a president could have is legislative influence if any house of congress opposes you


[10-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I think if Sanders gets the nom it's an easy election


[10-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that I don't think the democratic party will ever allow bernie to be elected


[10-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah I think they had egg on their face


[10-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Leaked audio from Sanders:


[10-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmcpiM3SSOA/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Apr-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-lieu-plays-candace-owens-hitler-comments-2019-4

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https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-lieu-plays-candace-owens-hitler-comments-2019-4
Ted Lieu plays a clip of Candace Owens' comments on Hitler to ridi...
"Of all the people that Republicans could have selected, they picked Candace Owens."
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5cacda876b5265580719f7e9-1920-960.jpg


[10-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
lol that was a great impression of Bernie tbh


[10-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
inb4 it was real


[10-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
if the democratic party does what I'm pretty sure they're going to do and selects biden as their candidate, trump's going to win again


[10-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
has Biden even declared candidacy


[10-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get why Clinton didn't pick Sanders as her VP.


[10-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, she would've stood a chance if she had done that


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause then Republicans would use him to bash her once she won


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnPrxbYARJg

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cooljunkproductions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnPrxbYARJg
Bernie Sanders destroys Hillary Clinton in primary debate on Vermo...
Bernie Sanders absolutely killed Hillary during this debate. DISCLAIMER: This video is purely satire. Do not take it seriously!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnPrxbYARJg/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The VP is often best someone who has no real policy goals


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
"Thank you Senator"


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
VP has become super important in recent decades


[10-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a pawn, yes.


[10-Apr-19 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it's upsetting to me that this video is full of conservatives in the comments yelling about gun rights and stuff


[10-Apr-19 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
but I guess I should have expected that


[10-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like the VP has seceded its role as the leader of the senate to the senate majority leader


[10-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
incorrect


[10-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
VP seceded power to the pro temp


[10-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
who defers to the majority leader


[10-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
semantics lol


[10-Apr-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
very important semantics


[10-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
in the founding father's envisioned world, donald trump would be the leader of the executive branch while hillary clinton would be vice president and leader of the upper house of congress


[10-Apr-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and then some buffoon named William Henry Harrison had to forget to bring his jacket to a hunting trip when he was POTUS, then catch a cold and die, solidifying the rule that the VP is just the president's emergency backup


[10-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't catch colds from being cold.


[10-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You catch them because viruses persist in cold air longer.


[10-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
being cold apparently suppresses your immune system


[10-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
not alot, but it adds up


[10-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
tiny bit extra virus, tiny bit less immune strength


[10-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Honahue#0656
especially when the current medical wisdom is still the four humors


[10-Apr-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He got the cold because he gave the longest inauguration speech ever (because his opponents called him quiet) in January in DC with no hat or coat.


[10-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like we're better off without him.


[10-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I think that bit of policy was inevitable.


[10-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But choosing your VP was bad.


[10-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Constitution should've explicitly said the VP is the runner up.


[10-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could be worse


[10-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
it's as much a compromised document as anything


[10-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could die of diarrhea like Taylor did because he ate too many cherries and milk


[10-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
the idea was that it was amendable but now people want to treat it like scripture


[10-Apr-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worse than that


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
"The Founding Fathers were all knowing and perfect and their will has not changed"


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want to treat only the bill of rights like scripture


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Heaven help us if there's actually a constitutional convention ever called


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and say that the 14th amendment was never meant to giv equal rights


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that we should stikk to 1780s morality


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That would probably lead to a civil war.


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To be fair, it's supposed to be hard to pass amendments, and there have been multiple attempts to pass amendments that support that mentality that have thankfully failed


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that if societal conditions remove a particular facet of us ignoring the conclusions of the text


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you CA has so much control over the US


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
that we should reverse societal conditions


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and reignore the conclusions of the text


[10-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just turn off Google for any state in rebellion


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turn off GPS


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* remove rights from gays and women


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
only let landowners vote


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Federalist Society judges ultimately want.


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think you can just "turn off" gps


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
GPS is a government thing


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not without doing it for everyone


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
you can disable google maps tho


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fed SOC people want the VA to be privatized at this point


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but there's other GPS'


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that much is true


[10-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So much for caring about vets


[10-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the 1780s


[10-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got a joke for you


[10-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Antonin Scalia goes into a McDonald's to return his order of large fries


[10-Apr-19 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They ask "What is the problem sir"


[10-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He says "I ordered a large fry and you gave me like 60 small ones"


[10-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
*laugh track*


[10-Apr-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
honk honk


[10-Apr-19 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/257957957214535680/565457960013135872/unknown.png

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[10-Apr-19 02:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[10-Apr-19 02:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/0IMtxccq9ZA

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Damian Centeno
https://youtu.be/0IMtxccq9ZA
God fucking damn it, man. What the fuck?
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[10-Apr-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/oaqfgji41br21.png

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[10-Apr-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
This is America

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[10-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] I thought it was somewhere else you say similar.


[10-Apr-19 06:38 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LpY3FKyYbA

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Ear Rape Central
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LpY3FKyYbA
USA National Anthem - (BASS BOOSTED EAR RAPE)
Suggest a song! http://goo.gl/forms/0UgkoDDuoAybYaqw1 USA National Anthem - (BASS BOOSTED EAR RAPE)
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[10-Apr-19 06:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is there rock/metal version of the anthem?


[10-Apr-19 06:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I've heard rock version on russian anthem.


[10-Apr-19 06:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Probably.


[10-Apr-19 06:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Jimmy Hendricks did a rock performance in the sixties


[10-Apr-19 06:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/TKAwPA14Ni4

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EDUARDO DYABLO
https://youtu.be/TKAwPA14Ni4
Jimi Hendrix The Star Spangled Banner American Anthem Live at Wood...
Un dios de la guitarra
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[10-Apr-19 06:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To me looks like protest song, rather than rock  rearrangement of the actual anthem.


[10-Apr-19 06:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sex Pistols did similar protest song based on uk anthem.


[10-Apr-19 06:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was a protest song. Most recompositiona of the anthem are probably going to be protest songs. Whenever people perform the anthem here with a straight face they have to do it by the book.


[10-Apr-19 06:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or have an eight year old sing it Acapella.


[10-Apr-19 06:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Derivation tends to lead to scorn.


[10-Apr-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I sang the anthem for high school sporting events because if I didn't they would force us to say the pledge


[10-Apr-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
And I will never voluntarily pledge allegiance


[10-Apr-19 07:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated history time.

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[10-Apr-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/stay-in-sa-ramaphosa-urges-young-white-people-20190410

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Stay in SA - Ramaphosa urges young white people
The president's campaign trail makes a stop in the Beyerskloof wine estate outside Stellenbosch where he addresses young white South Africans.
http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/8695/defd9302d4044bc5a7c6eece8829e86c.jpg


[10-Apr-19 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A elderly man was arrested last week due to euthanizing his elderly and chronically ill wife after 10 years of her suffering and publicly begging to be euthanized


[10-Apr-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, it's going to a gender violence court and treated as a misogynist crime


[10-Apr-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/us/politics/bernie-sanders-millionaire-net-worth-taxes.html

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By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/us/politics/bernie-sanders-millionaire-net-worth-taxes.html
Bernie Sanders, Now a Millionaire, Pledges to Release Tax Returns ...
“I wrote a best-selling book,” Mr. Sanders said in an interview. “If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire, too.”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/09/us/politics/09dc-bernie/09dc-bernie-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda) are you south african.?


[10-Apr-19 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[10-Apr-19 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it worth of note to some degree?


[10-Apr-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to someone possibly?


[10-Apr-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/donald-trump-mount-vernon-george-washington-1264073

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/donald-trump-mount-vernon-george-washington-1264073
Trump’s ‘truly bizarre’ visit to Mt. Vernon
The 45th president — no student of history — marveled at the first president's failure to name his historic compound after himself.
https://static.politico.com/ff/35/af580b364e0e84e34b2edbb8918d/webp.net-resizeimage%20(5).jpg


[10-Apr-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more stupid from the mouth of trump


[10-Apr-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
no it isn't


[10-Apr-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
the news is from last year


[10-Apr-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
the article was posted today


[10-Apr-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
>“If he was smart, he would’ve put his name on it,” Trump said, according to three sources briefed on the exchange. “You’ve got to put your name on stuff or no one remembers you.”


[10-Apr-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
if trump wasn't retarded, he'd realize how arrogant that sounds


[10-Apr-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
people will put your name on things if you're a great person worthy of being remembered


[10-Apr-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[10-Apr-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck i misread the date


[10-Apr-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also my bad


[10-Apr-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
like general relativity has been practically renamed to "einstein's general relativity"


[10-Apr-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
the phrase gets used so much that it might as well be called "einstein's general relativity", even though the official term is just general relativity


[10-Apr-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the future trump tower will simply be remembered as "That ugly golden tower in the middle of new york"


[10-Apr-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least i hope that's the case


[10-Apr-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
iirc one of trump's buildings with his name on it is in the process of being renamed for some reason


[10-Apr-19 09:47 PM] Honahue#0656
The greatest honor a scientist or engineer can have is for their last name to be spelled in lower case


[10-Apr-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
daltons


[10-Apr-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
mendelevium


[10-Apr-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon article link?


[10-Apr-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/local-hole-fan-doesnt-mind-that-its-black-but-doesnt-get-why-they-have-to-force-diversity-on-us/

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Local Hole Fan Doesn't Mind That It's Black But Doesn't Get Why Th...
Self-described “hole fan” Chris Richardson is reportedly dismayed that the newly discovered “large space hole” by scientists had to be black.
https://thehardtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Untitled-1.jpg


[10-Apr-19 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@byte[] https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/04/10/5cae31fffc6c83ad508b4608.html

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https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/04/10/5cae31fffc6c83ad508b4608.html
Un juez de violencia machista investigará al hombre que ayudó a ...
El juez de Madrid que investigaba el caso de la muerte de María José Carrasco con ayuda de su marido Ángel Hernández ha decidido inhibirse en favor de un juzgado de Violencia contr
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[10-Apr-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
nice


[10-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/texas-lawmakers-consider-the-death-penalty-for-abortion

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Texas lawmakers consider the death penalty for abortion
State legislators stayed up well into the morning hearing emotional testimony about a proposed abortion ban.
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[10-Apr-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[10-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/barr-clarifies-comments-about-spying-on-trump-campaign-i-am-not-saying-that-improper-surveillance-occurred/

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Josh Feldman
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/barr-clarifies-comments-about-spying-on-trump-campaign-i-am-not-saying-that-improper-surveillance-occurred/
Barr Clarifies Comments About Spying on Trump Campaign: ‘I Am No...
Attorney General Bill Barr clarified this afternoon the comments he made earlier in today's Senate hearing about spying on the Trump campaign.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/barr.jpg


[10-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing makes Barr's summary seem more reliable than backing down on an FBI related lie


[11-Apr-19 12:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1116093773665140736?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1116093773665140736?s=21
THANK YOU Texas, I love you! https://t.co/24D4K9ILFd
Retweets
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Likes
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Twitter


[11-Apr-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D30pukYWwAA9u0H.jpg

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[11-Apr-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[11-Apr-19 12:35 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/nolte-trump-job-approval-jumps-to-53-seven-points-higher-than-obama/ fuck

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Trump Job Approval Jumps to 53% - Seven Points Higher Than Obama
Trump's job approval ratings currently sits at 53 percent, seven points higher than Barack Obama at this same point his presidency.
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[11-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Samoa

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American Samoa
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[11-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
`Most of them are "nationals but not citizens of the United States at birth".`


[11-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
Donald Trump is still their president


[11-Apr-19 12:36 AM] illumnious#7938
Until 2021


[11-Apr-19 12:37 AM] illumnious#7938
2016 was a mistake


[11-Apr-19 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 doesn't show that much approval


[11-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Standard 42/52


[11-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
About his average since 2018 started (previously it was much lower, 37/57 at one point)


[11-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump doesn't care about you if you aren't in a red area


[11-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Compare Puerto Rico and California disaster response to Alabama


[11-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Honahue#0656
honk honk


[11-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know someone who legitimately makes the argument that production of a lot of field corn and soybean entitles a greater voice in elections


[11-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit son if that's the case and voice is tied to economic output just have Silicon Valley pick the president


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's all rural areas can argue


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Litrojia#0612
Folks in my family argue that the Electoral College is good because otherwise it'd be susceptible to liberal urban hive mind mentality or something


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Urban areas should run the country


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen bo compelling reason why that shouldn't be the case


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I've been a flyover my whole life


[11-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Litrojia#0612
Like urban folks aren't as much of a person as rural people


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all fake


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's little to no culture


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything is blamed on urbanites


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too much urban/rural difference results in economic collapse


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav a serious problem where only urban areas are growing economically


[11-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of rampant neoliberalism


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
capitalism loves centralizing resources


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad for the environment and society long-term


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural areas have nothing but raw resources


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to stay somewhat spread out.


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which could be remotely grown


[11-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
2200 is gonna look really bad if current trends continue


[11-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could have combines remotely operated in a warehouse in Houston and pay a few dozen people to check up on farms in person


[11-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
if we're still here in 2200


[11-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[11-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
at the rate we're going


[11-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
stephen hawking's prediction will come true


[11-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd like to bring up Maher's explanation of the rural/urban divide


[11-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically rural areas looking at urban ones and feeling left out with all the prosperity


[11-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't make this comparison but


[11-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know the episode of SpongeBob where Patrick wants an award?


[11-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda like that.


[11-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is it isn't entirely rural area's faults


[11-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republican philosophy on the economy creates a bigger divide


[11-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of spreading out projects, creating transportation and local resource usage


[11-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything's megacorps demanding you liv nearby


[11-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Silicon Valley as the most ridiculous result


[11-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
California law basically disallows exclusivity deals with employees


[11-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can just quit and walk across the street to a new employer in the same industry bringing all the stuff you've learned


[11-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is great for innovation


[11-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[11-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it ultimately is bad for the employees because they become less valuable


[11-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And any area outside the one with employees shuffling between sources of innovation get shafted


[11-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
the reverse is anticompete clauses though, and that could push an employee out of a job market entirely


[11-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are the same thing


[11-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they push you out of the job market temporarily


[11-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
so they better behave or they'll never work in industry again


[11-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the problem is that without any clauses like that


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
the game is headhunting


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
With them, the game is to treat employees very well so you retain them as long as possible


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe competition isn't the ideal method of production anyway


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and grab up people from outside the industry


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
competition increases GDP very well


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially once monopolies set in


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
and patents and IP laws just serve to screw over people and industries


[11-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
but enrich a few


[11-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but GDP is clearly not the only goal economics should focus on


[11-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but that's hard to say cause basically the history of humanity has been us competing for arbitrary reasons


[11-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Competition needs referees


[11-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
or maybe cooperation is a better mode of production


[11-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
but less likeable cause it's harder to get obscenely wealthy if you're playing with people instead of against them


[11-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
cooperation is almost certainly better at running a company internally


[11-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
competition is probably mostly good for externally


[11-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I  disagree


[11-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Apple and Microsoft aren't any better because they compete


[11-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The key is to balance GDP growth with distribution of wealth


[11-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Honahue#0656
if anything competing seems to make companies do shitty things to make money


[11-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
no, they aren't any better because they aren't cooperatives


[11-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
which is what's being discussed right now


[11-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
are cooperatives better than corporations? a majority of people would say yes


[11-Apr-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Texas needs to hurry up and execute a corporation.


[11-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Honahue#0656
well there's this myth that companies compete for customers by putting their products in the market and customers decided


[11-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Honahue#0656
but that's a myth


[11-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Honahue#0656
advertising, oligopolies, marketing, imperfect infromation


[11-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apple and Microsoft compete externally which drives innovation


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
is cooperation between corporations better than competition between cooperatives?


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
marketing is a slap in the face of that, of course


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well th emyth dates back to before the supply side shit took root


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Honahue#0656
what the fuck as Apple or Microsoft innovated?


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Honahue#0656
everything in an iPhone was made with government money


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, money isn't innovation, it just funds innovation


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now most of the innovation is by Google and Apple is just constantly on their ass


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
you need people to innovate


[11-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it doesn't matter where the money came from


[11-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Google and Apple's innovations are all motivated around tyring to get eyes on ads


[11-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a shitty metric


[11-Apr-19 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
And all of that has and does come from NSA research


[11-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
and leads to terrible results, the fact that a few decent things have come out of it is a side effect not a  goal


[11-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They actually do innovate in ways other than that


[11-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
ads are just a large portion of it.


[11-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
it'd probably be cheaper to have the people innovating be working for the government directly instead of in a private business, but that would be :socialism: and would supposedly kill any incentive to innovate


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
pharmaceutical innovations tend to come from gov't


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
big pharma then patents it


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and charges out the ass to pay for marketing


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
competition ends up wasted on marketing.


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Honahue#0656
reminder that the USSR innovated the most efficient rocket engine design back in the 60's and it took the US till a few years ago to make a better one


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
pharma marketing should be outlawed


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is one of the only countries in the world which allows this


[11-Apr-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it's nuts


[11-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
and those USSR engineers did it with slide rulers and long division


[11-Apr-19 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder some random Soviet engineer made a mobile phone network for Moscow in, the fifties or something


[11-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
they also had their own internet, France did too


[11-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
soviet internet died in 1991 France's in 2012 now everything is TCP/IP


[11-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Macarou#9574
The USSR did all that? I am genuinely surprised, I did not know.


[11-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Honahue#0656
the US school system never likes to admit that the USSR did anything yet they were also a massive threat somehow. if you look into their space program they basically beat the US at everything except the moon landing


[11-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Dragon just did some autonomous docking with the ISS


[11-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Honahue#0656
USSR was doing autonomous resupply to MIR


[11-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Macarou#9574
That is impressive. How did they achieve these feats?


[11-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bit of gov't research money goes a long way on technology


[11-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the soviets often made stuff just barely work


[11-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their space program being a big example.


[11-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Huge technological defecit, but they basically could've gone to the Moon and bakk had Korolev not died.


[11-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is, corruption tore the program apart while the US' technology lead had it outpacing.


[11-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
the only incident with their automous resupply occured after the USSR dissolved and the tech was Ukrainian there was some weird shit from that


[11-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately the USSR's big trouble was corruption would often come in to tear away accomplishments.


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US meanwhile would retain accomplishments despite corruption, but would stall on things.


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
and the whole of the rest of the world wanting to prove that it wasn't a workable system


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the US wasn't happy about the Soviets because muh communism strawman


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
it wasn't like they just fell apart because of interanl forces they had massive amounts of external forces trying to make them fail


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The USSR had a very bad system, but ultimately gov't money works.


[11-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUND NASA


[11-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, external forces played 0 part in tearing apart the Soviet lunar program.


[11-Apr-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
there are far better reasons to disapprove of the USSR than what the US used during the Cold War


[11-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aside of "well the US got there first guys"


[11-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviet lunar program started off on the wrong foot with a rokket meant to go near Venus, not the Moon.


[11-Apr-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
I mean if Elon Musk had all the resources he could do what NASA did in the 60's, or the Soviets. When you literally possess the vast sum or the largest sum of material resources anywhere you can do a lot.


[11-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything had to be retooled around that and there was a massive tech disadvantage


[11-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And political forces were not generally kind to the program


[11-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The N1 was an absolute travesty.


[11-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overly complex system that did little more than blow it up.


[11-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
the major tech disagvatage was that the US had access to heavier industry and could manufacture the F1 engines, the USSR couldn't make an engine that big if they wanted to which drove them to make the NK-33


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
but plumbing 30 engines in a rocket is a nightmare compared to 5


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now if West Germany was on the Soviet Side of the Iron Curtain...


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wouldn't help


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to manufacture a rokket engine extremely locally or else the other side gets the specs pretty much instantly.


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
it might actually, German has one of the biggest forges in the world


[11-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
America has a big one


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the Soviets only got the German version of the mid-west in the curtain.


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
like 40,000 tons or something


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also need very, very good manufacturing knowledge.


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
the US bought theres from Germany


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviets' tech disadvantage wasn't just a lakk of manufacturing *capacity*


[11-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
they had the knowledge


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got the short end of the stikk for German scientists and scientists in general


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
they made the Nk-33


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
WESTEN


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
DEUTSCHLAND


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
W E S T E N


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
it took some crazy metelurgy to make the NK-33


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
D E U T S C H L A N D


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes more than just metallurgy


[11-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rokketry requires technology of virtually all disciplines to come together


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhr

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[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
W E S T E N


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
D E U T S C H L A N D


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need engines, life support systems, parachutes, electronic control systems, and materials sciences all to come together.


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
the F1 is a brute force engine, there's nothing super special about it besides it's size


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
A problem with any one of these areas causes cascading problems thruout everything else


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
I think you forget that th USSR did everything first in space


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[11-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did it first because they weren't as cautious as NASA


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
they had fewer deaths too


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
amazingly


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA had superior capability, but tended to plan more flights, with more steps


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA was worried about being in orbit too long being fatal etc.


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's what Gemini was for


[11-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
While NASA was planning to fly a few hours, the Soviets just sent someone up for a day to see what would happen.


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Honahue#0656
Yuri was only in orbit for a few hours


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was after Yuri


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Honahue#0656
like just over 2 I think


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA was still behind for several flights


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most notable being the first spacewalk


[11-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Soviets did it with an airlokk that nearly made returning to the inside impossible


[11-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[11-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA's deaths were basically just three guys in a fire on the ground, which was unrelated to the overall capabilities


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the primary cause of that were 2 design mistakes, 1 in the door and 1 in the approach to providing breathable air


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yes in an attempt to save weight they did a pure o2 enviroment


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the problem


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Honahue#0656
and the door had a delay in opening


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone was doing pure O2


[11-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Honahue#0656
and o2 and velcro are flammable in a way regular air isn't


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were doing pure O2 at 1 atm on the ground


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It depends on pressure as well as pureness


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pressure used in space was only about .3 atm


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Challenger_explosion.jpg/1200px-Challenger_explosion.jpg


[11-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
at which pure O2 acts for fire and the human body just like normal air


[11-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
just without the deadly N2


[11-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble was the idea was to start with equal pressure and pure O2 so that there wouldn't be inward-facing stresses


[11-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means severe fire hazard


[11-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The solution was to do full pressure, but a standard O2/N2 mix on the ground, and bleed out while only replacing O2 on the way up


[11-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Space Shuttle later came to completely eclipse things by being an absolute deathtrap.


[11-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/trump-family-separation-binary-choice-1266675

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[11-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
this is not acceptable


[11-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's hostage taking


[11-Apr-19 03:35 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1115694726815068161?s=21

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[11-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
based off of what information?


[11-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
why is this popping up everywhere now


[11-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
I tried googling it, but it just came up with a bunch of fox news and breitbart shit


[11-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rasmussen is basically useless


[11-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Might as well cite Mother Jones


[11-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
is this from a super idealized poll with all its data published, or does it have the numbers fudged until it fits the narrative?


[11-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that every little tiny flaw in data in published big studies to show the effects of humans on the environment is immediately dogpiled


[11-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is the most Republican leaning poll


[11-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
all of the very few scientists that claim that humans aren't having any effects on a global scale don't actually publish anything beyond attempting to use logic to discredit the claim despite having no evidence backing it


[11-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest one is claiming that because it uses computer models to simulate the climate that it's fundamentally flawed because humans made those models, even though the models have been matching the real data so far


[11-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
and we've been using computer models to simulate shit since the 80's


[11-Apr-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I forget if it was in this chat or elsewhere that someone was having a problem with their mom believing that


[11-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
nobody gives a shit when a computer model leads to a new discovery in quantum mechanics, or a better design for a fusion tokamak or stellarator


[11-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
dude, that's literally me lol


[11-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
I'm 90% sure I mentioned that before


[11-Apr-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You'll have to forgive me, I've got another friend whose parents are anti-science


[11-Apr-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, I saw a guy walking around with a shirt with a NASA logo on it, only the text had been changed to LIES


[11-Apr-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which made me realize a) this shirt exists b) someone bought it and wore it c) in public


[11-Apr-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
today


[11-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's funny because I saw like 5 NASA shirts on different people walking around campus yesterday lol


[11-Apr-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
lol I found the shirt on redbubble https://www.redbubble.com/people/chafn/works/34454613-lies-nasa-logo-shirt-tells-nasas-latest

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'lies nasa logo shirt tells nasa's latest' T-Shirt by CHAFN
lies nasa shirt / lies nasa tells / is nasa a private company / is nasa a company / is nasa an acronym / is nasa an independent agency / is nasa an independent executive agency / is nasa a bureaucratic agency / is nasa a waste of money / is nasa an organization / is nasa a go...


[11-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

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Latest Polls
The latest political polls collected by FiveThirtyEight.
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[11-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
dunno how 538 curates its polls, but look at the difference between Rasmussen and the others included


[11-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Litrojia#0612
And that trend persists when you look at old approval polls


[11-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 doesn't curate much, it mainly just grades


[11-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
polls that get an F don't factor in much.


[11-Apr-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
F in the chat for those polls


[11-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/


[11-Apr-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's Breitbart's source?


[11-Apr-19 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow https://www.quora.com/What-are-your-thoughts-on-the-Gracchi-Reforms-in-the-late-2nd-century-BC

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What are your thoughts on the Gracchi Reforms in the late 2nd cent...
The Gracchi reforms were one of the earliest examples of how Socialism destroys a democratic Republic. While the politically socialist leftist Gracchi brothers no doubt believed they were doing good for the poor and more common Roman citizens, the...


[11-Apr-19 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quora is such a meme sometimes


[11-Apr-19 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Little does the replying person know that the Gracchi reforms weren't even fucking implemented lol


[11-Apr-19 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They were shot down by Roman aristocratic chums in the senate


[11-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
there was a big middle class rebellion specifically because caeser was assassinated, he was very popular with both the workers and the merchants


[11-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
not sure why you linked that to me though lol


[11-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not a big history guy


[11-Apr-19 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, i'm just aware you dislike quora's community a bit


[11-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
no I don't


[11-Apr-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
I link quora somewhat often


[11-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-47263743

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Woman jailed over stillbirth is freed
Evelyn Hernández, who says she was raped and did not know she was pregnant, faces a re-trial.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/2B13/production/_105672011_evelynhernandez.jpg


[11-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
old but wtf


[11-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
el salvador has a complete ban on abortions, to the point that even miscarriages and stillbirths are resulting in prison time


[11-Apr-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/CNmfPuc.png

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[11-Apr-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
>Overcrowded prison in El Salvador.


[11-Apr-19 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
what a flagrant violation of human rights


[11-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
UN send their concerns about this situation


[11-Apr-19 09:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
turns out when you kill all of the leftists, right wing and fascist policy wins


[11-Apr-19 09:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
rly makes ya thonk


[11-Apr-19 09:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
thanks america


[11-Apr-19 09:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
sure freedom'd El Salvador up


[11-Apr-19 12:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2019/4/8/russian-military-police-beat-syrians-following-workers-strike

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Russian military police beat Syrians following workers' strike
Russian military police, present in Syria since 2016, reportedly beat...
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[11-Apr-19 12:19 PM] ononim#8141
Tankies will defend this because "anti-imperealism"


[11-Apr-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
tankies?


[11-Apr-19 12:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tankie

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tankie
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/10_Soviet_Invasion_of_Czechoslovakia_-_Flickr_-_The_Central_Intelligence_Agency.jpg/1200px-10_Soviet_Invasion_of_Czechoslovakia_-_Flickr_-_The_Central_Intelligence_Agency.jpg


[11-Apr-19 12:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tankie

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Urban Dictionary: tankie
A hardline Stalinist. A tankie is a member of a communist group or a "fellow traveller" (sympathiser) who believes fully in the political system of the Soviet Union and defends/defended the actions of the Soviet Union and other accredited states (China, Serbia, etc.) to the h...


[11-Apr-19 12:31 PM] ononim#8141
basically stalinist and the like who'll defend anything even nominal Marxist-Leninst state (and nowadays not even that with their dfence of Ba'athist states and modern Russia because "anti-imperealist struggle against the West") does


[11-Apr-19 12:33 PM] ononim#8141
i.e. Crushing revolts in Hungary and Czeslovakia was justified, Tinamen square not reall or they deserved it, China doing blatnant imperealist shit is the real anti-imperealism, et c


[11-Apr-19 01:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
While you say that ussr outperformed space department at start, yet it all was done at complete expense of civilian industries.


[11-Apr-19 01:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
For instance, lack of service or limited stock in items. And that's because all resources were sent for military production.


[11-Apr-19 01:49 PM] ononim#8141
Being baited into arms race was one of the biggest mistakes of USSR, both in pragamtical machivelian country rulling and idealogical struggle


[11-Apr-19 02:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@ononim who did this?


[11-Apr-19 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
what


[11-Apr-19 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
did what


[11-Apr-19 02:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Baiting ussr


[11-Apr-19 02:25 PM] ononim#8141
Arms race? well US since there's were no other post war country that could initiate it until sino-soviet split


[11-Apr-19 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Could be Stalin blamed for this?


[11-Apr-19 02:29 PM] ononim#8141
I don't know too much about post war history to say firmly who was the most behind that, but even if he was, post Stalin government could easily reverse the course and blame it on his cult of personality if it was his fault so, that's not really important question


[11-Apr-19 02:29 PM] ononim#8141
and besides ol Joes of Steel can be blamed for a lot of shit besdies that so


[11-Apr-19 02:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
His attitude was barely different from axis leader. Which caused the rest of allies to sketch up reaction plan in case he decides to turn into villain.


[11-Apr-19 02:34 PM] ononim#8141
His axis foreign policy pre war is really deplorable


[11-Apr-19 02:36 PM] ononim#8141
like yeah we both had to trade with each other to circumnavigate sanctions nad quotas and we're not ready yet to tkae them on, but uhhh let's make a secret agreement to carve out europe in "zones of influence" and tell communist parties in the west to not fight against fascist yeah that's veryy cool/s


[11-Apr-19 02:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47891737

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Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange arrested
He took refuge in Ecuador's London embassy in 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden over an alleged sexual assault.
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[11-Apr-19 02:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116311109550710784

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WikiLeaks (@wikileaks)
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116311109550710784
Assange has been arrested in relation to a US extradition request for "conspiracy with Chelsea Manning" for publishing Iraq War Logs, Cablegate, Afghan War Logs, precisely the persecution for which he was granted asylum under the 1951 Refugee Convention in 2012. @unhumanri...
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[11-Apr-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1116313934519312384

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Paul Canning (@pauloCanning)
https://twitter.com/pauloCanning/status/1116313934519312384
Ecuador Interior Minister: 'In the next few hours the government will reveal details that will justify, in excess, the decision to withdraw asylum. Details like that, during his stay at the Embassy he put fecal feces on the walls.'
https://t.co/4SZHWlTADR
Twitter


[11-Apr-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
> when you smear shit on the walls

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[11-Apr-19 03:15 PM] Honahue#0656
He's been locked in one building for 8 years


[11-Apr-19 03:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Shit goes in the toilet. :trixdisgust:


[11-Apr-19 03:18 PM] Mikey#7286
~~||Or in other places||~~

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[11-Apr-19 03:50 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[11-Apr-19 05:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim I dunno about the USSR being baited in by the US because I read a book that made the claim the US was baited into it by the USSR. The narrative went that throughout the post-war up until the space race (if not after) the Soviets routinely released phoney stories about stuff they were not doing in order to oblige Congress to waste money on it. And they knew all the buttons to press, they released stories about nuclear powered bombers straight to the engineering press that got Boeing and Raytheon all fired up so they'd demand money from Congress to make their own impossible nuclear bomber.


[11-Apr-19 05:54 PM] Honahue#0656
The F-15 was made by accident, the Soviets had made the MiG Foxbat, it was an interceptor and recon plane designed for speed and high altitude. US Intel saw that it had big control surfaces and thought it was a high agility fighter so they made the F-15


[11-Apr-19 05:55 PM] Honahue#0656
High altitude means not a lot of air to push off so you need big control surfaces to have any authority


[11-Apr-19 08:11 PM] moonatik#3676

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[11-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why you bring 2 bullets.


[11-Apr-19 08:13 PM] moonatik#3676
lol


[11-Apr-19 08:13 PM] moonatik#3676
tankies are just nazis that thought the soviets had better tank designs


[11-Apr-19 08:13 PM] moonatik#3676
making that the one thing they are totally correct on


[11-Apr-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/avenatti-indictment.html

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By THE NEW YORK TIMES
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/avenatti-indictment.html
Michael Avenatti Is Indicted in California on Financial Crimes Charges
Already facing extortion charges in New York, he is accused by California prosecutors of defrauding clients.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/11/sports/11avenatti/11avenatti-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[11-Apr-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
>Michael Avenatti, the lawyer known for representing Stormy Daniels in lawsuits against President Trump, has been indicted by a Southern California grand jury on fraud, tax evasion, embezzlement and other charges.


[11-Apr-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how dumb you have to be to attempt to extort a corporation with an annual revenue of 36.39 billion dollars


[11-Apr-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/712105501/sudans-military-says-it-has-taken-control-and-arrested-president-omar-al-bashir

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Sudan's Military Says It Has Taken Control And Arrested President ...
Sudan's defense minister says a transitional military council will rule the country for two years — a plan that doesn't satisfy many of the thousands who demanded a regime change.
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[11-Apr-19 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Apr-19 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is not ok folks


[11-Apr-19 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let's fight against this libtard bs


[11-Apr-19 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can't take away my freedom! Well, except for putting a high price on everything i want to use to live, but that doesn't matter!


[11-Apr-19 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
That tweet looks like an algamate of two tweets


[11-Apr-19 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
Like first part (almost all of it) reads like "haha look at these dilusional fools who think they can just wave a magic wand and all good thing will happen just because"


[11-Apr-19 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
And the second, the last sentence reads like they listed horrible stuff beforehand because it comes out as sarcastic


[11-Apr-19 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
So it looks like they unironically hate good things


[11-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait, is that tweet supposed to be sarcastic?


[11-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the sense that they DON'T WANT those things?


[11-Apr-19 09:05 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-obama-white-house-counsel-greg-craig-indicted/

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Former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig indicted
The investigation into Craig comes as the Justice Department is cracking down on unregistered foreign lobbying and consulting
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[11-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/04/ohio-house-passes-heartbeat-abortion-ban.html

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Ohio House, Senate pass ‘heartbeat’ abortion ban
With Senate Bill 23 passing the House, it's only steps away from landing on Gov. Mike DeWine's desk. The bill bans abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which can be at six weeks - before many women know they're pregnant.
https://www.cleveland.com/resizer/yjTczDeMljJeAuFMsInf7u6SGzY=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BRQRNBF7S5CIXD5XE6UNYZJY2E.jpg


[11-Apr-19 09:38 PM] Honahue#0656
Living in Michigan I'm upset that Ohio is so shitty but I also always knew Ohio was trash


[11-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OitVw2gE6aQ

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Kindness Films
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Free Trip to Egypt - OFFICIAL TRAILER
On June 12th, join us for a nationwide, one-day-only, screening of the film Free Trip to Egypt across 500 theatres in the United States and join the #PledgeT...
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[11-Apr-19 11:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1116398173835206657

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southpaw (@nycsouthpaw)
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1116398173835206657
Senators Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein and Warner, together with House chairmen Nadler and Schiff, sign onto a new letter demanding the full Mueller Report.
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[11-Apr-19 11:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on one hand I like this letter, on the other hand it has become readily apparent that making a show of good faith is not moving fast enough to keep up with people acting in bad faith


[11-Apr-19 11:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I feel like the subpoena for the full report needs to happen before the redacted version is out or else it'll be labeled "whiny babies moving the goalposts again" despite the fact that *the goalposts have not moved*


[11-Apr-19 11:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But on the other hand, if they *do,* that's when the MAGAstration will jump down their throats and go AHA, we knew you couldn't follow the rules, maybe


[11-Apr-19 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And all of this on top of Barr alledging that he's not going to release the report "piecemeal" but also refusing to release the unredacted version - despite the gang of 8 having full clearance to receive the full report, and the rumors that Mueller himself put redaction-safe summaries at the beginning of each section for the express purpose of being released to the public


[12-Apr-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's already coming tho


[12-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There should be few to no redactions


[12-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keyword: should


[12-Apr-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How do you figure, considering Barr has outlined 4 categories of stuff he's said he plans to redact, which amount to potentially something like 30-60% of the evidence


[12-Apr-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, we passed "should" at about 48 hours past Mueller handing Barr his report


[12-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
They won't release it


[12-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Honahue#0656
members of Congress have security clearences they can read an unredacted version in a SCIF if they have to but they should be able to read it


[12-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Mikey#7286
I seriously doubt it's going to happen


[12-Apr-19 12:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wouldn't expect them to release it to the public, but I'm thinking they're not gonna release it to congress either which is *genuinely illegal*


[12-Apr-19 12:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even if you start the clock on looking for obstruction of justice 7 days after the end of the Mueller investigation, there's enough evidence to substantiate the charge


[12-Apr-19 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Since that time, Barr has failed to perform his duties as AG, Trump has threatened the investigative organizations that are set to pursue the remaining indictments from the Mueller special counsel, and a completely separate inquiry into the president has been blocked


[12-Apr-19 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And above all, the prevailing narrative from the right has been "it's over, you lost, forget about it"


[12-Apr-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was four pages come on


[12-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Honahue#0656
the summary was 4 pages the report is like 400


[12-Apr-19 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the summary which is apparently now not a summary 'cause Barr realized that'd land him in trouble if he didn't walk it back


[12-Apr-19 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but only once everyone got used to calling it the summary


[12-Apr-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
For the memes I hope it doesn't become public.


[12-Apr-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have a sneaking suspicion that within a day of the report, in any version, landing on Schiff's desk, we're going to see as much of Mueller's alleged public-safe sections released as possible


[12-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole thing has been tainted


[12-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Barr said no obstruction


[12-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So no one will believe it even if it is a clear case


[12-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also don't really believe no conspiracy


[12-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Show us it all if it really exonerated


[12-Apr-19 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr also said no more indictments but apparently the indictments that Mueller squirreled away in federal courts are still chugging along


[12-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/walmart-responds-to-amazons-challenge-over-pay.html

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'How about paying your taxes?'—Walmart responds to Amazon's chal...
Walmart responds to Bezos' challenge to other retailers to raise pay and add more benefits.
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[12-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Billionaire Fight!


[12-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
selfish altruism


[12-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
they're undefeatable now, so they just need to raise all the wages to the point that the rest of the competition is choked out


[12-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
then we can finally go back to 1890's regulations


[12-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
the True American Dream.


[12-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.space.com/israeli-beresheet-moon-landing-attempt-fails.html

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Israel's Beresheet Spacecraft Crashes Into Moon During Landing Attempt
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[12-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Somehow this is a metaphor for their politics


[12-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
is netanyahu still in charge


[12-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
I heard there was an election recently


[12-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
He was actually at their mission control during the landing attempt


[12-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Litrojia#0612
Think he is


[12-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Netanyahu is still in charge, yes


[12-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/final-israeli-election-results-bennett-wiped-out-netanyahu-s-likud-gains-one-seat-1.7111025

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[12-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Apr-19 03:24 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is anyone here still talking about presidents


[12-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Litrojia#0612
Next pres will probably be a better speaker than Trump


[12-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Litrojia#0612
I'd be scared if that wasn't the case


[12-Apr-19 03:24 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've rarely seen Trump speak


[12-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
next president is gonna be accused of murdering minorities and warmongering


[12-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
If the trend continues


[12-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah, they all do


[12-Apr-19 03:25 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There are like good candidates in 2020


[12-Apr-19 03:25 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
One year to go


[12-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Who? Hillary? Trump was the lesser of two evils in my opinion


[12-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Litrojia#0612
Trump stumbles through a lot of what he says using pretty basic language, and it gets confusing sometimes. Even when he has a script, he tends to deviate a lot from it. Of course, his abrasive, off-the-cuff remarks are what draws people to him too


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/ZNYmK19-d0U

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The Obama White House
https://youtu.be/ZNYmK19-d0U
President Obama on Death of Osama bin Laden
President Obama praises those Americans who carried out the operation to kill Osama bin Laden, tells the families of the victims of September 11, 2001 that t...
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[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Litrojia#0612
Dems have a lot of decent candidates for 2020, probably too many


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can Trump deliver this though?


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about presidents here right now because this channel is mainly for arguing about opinions on policy, not for stating facts.


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Its just that Obama's voice sounds heroic


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
As if anything regarding politics is a “fact”


[12-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a lot of things are.


[12-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Litrojia#0612
Obama is pretty well-regarded for his speaking


[12-Apr-19 03:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I just miss presidents that have a calm voice


[12-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav no intention of wasting time debating whether something multiple sources claimed happened in a conversation truly happened.


[12-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Yeah no, my facts will differ from your facts. That’s how politics work


[12-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Litrojia#0612
Again, it's what drew a lot of people to him in the first place


[12-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you can liv in your fantasyland where scientific evidence and leaks of information are just a warm breeze you can shield yourself from while the planet dies around you etc.


[12-Apr-19 03:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Bernie Sanders is really old but he may have a calm voice


[12-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav no intention of being a dumbass, meanwhile.


[12-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor of bending the truth to fit whatever is the current desired political fiction.


[12-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Litrojia#0612
Bernie can be calm, though I usually see him riled up


[12-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s also another thing about politics and politicians Neb. They ignore science, so bringing that up here is pointless


[12-Apr-19 03:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk why Americans didn't pick any president that is very formal


[12-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not a politician.


[12-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using whataboutism and a bunch of BS to remove any pointing out of similarities of Trump to Duterte is scummy.


[12-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Then you are correct that talking “facts” and science here is a waste of time


[12-Apr-19 03:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Abraham Lincoln is too formal in the 19th century


[12-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are objective, notable differences between Trump, Obama, and other presidents in ways that put Trump clearly in a similar spot to Duterte.


[12-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Duterte had very little stopping him from doing what he does. Trump has quite a few barriers stoping him from “murdering drug addicts”


[12-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
So I don’t know what your comparing between the two


[12-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't going to specifically do that, he'd rather instead imprison children.


[12-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He certainly approves of what Duterte does


[12-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he seems to believe life sentences are better on drug addicts


[12-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(even tho evidence shows this to be horrible for society)


[12-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Incarceration has shown to be more harmful then helpful, so his ideas on that seem flawed


[12-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't listen to reason, it's one of the reasons he's not a very good president, comparatively.


[12-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s also something I admire about him. His lack of listening keeps him from being persuaded easily. He is set in his ideals and that means things will get done


[12-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually the reverse is true


[12-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Explain


[12-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to people who've talked with him, he is very easily persuaded in direct conversation


[12-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This made him temporarily go completely against his ideals while talking with DREAMers


[12-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also regularly makes abrupt changes to policy, especially in regards to Syria (the times he had missiles fired)


[12-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That particular instance is believed to be tied to images of dying children that were shown to him.


[12-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Right now there are hundreds of people and the president of South Korea, asking him to reduce sanctions on North Korea. Due to us ideas on the North, hes not gonna budge


[12-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is, ultimately, very vulnerable to persuasion, but the trouble seems to be that he hates science (all the things that persuade him are emotional) and regularly reverts to ideals of hatred.


[12-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Politicians are notoriously affected by emotional things. Place a graph showing the casualties of war in a far away country and the politician may not care. Put a picture of dying kids and refugees on his desk and things might change


[12-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's an incredibly weak, yet hateful, leader.


[12-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A good leader actually cares about the graph.


[12-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That requires intelligence in the form of imagination and abstract thinking.


[12-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who needs the dying kid image to even be able to consider alternative courses of action likely has severe problems with abstract thought.


[12-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A sign of mental deficit.


[12-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
Graphs have no empathy, no feeling. A thing that cold, calculated leaders lack


[12-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, a cold, calculated leader does what's best on a regular basis.


[12-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
A warm, forgetful one, will just do what's emotionally good one day and then forget it the rest.


[12-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This makes for a rather pathetic leader.


[12-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when the people below them aren't effective, like how he gutted the Dept. of State


[12-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now he's gutting the DHS too because people disagreed with him


[12-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, he's a whiny baby and a terrible leader and he's going to put in puppets who coddle his feelings and don't actually care about the law.


[12-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, for some reason he's able to still maintain that family separation bullshit


[12-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect because he doesn't personally see the effects


[12-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
A leader who literally needs a picture of something to not traumatize kids is a really, really bad leader.


[12-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, I'm pretty sure I'd take most movie villains over that nowadays.


[12-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes yes, I know he tried to kill Spiderman, but he probably won't go around deliberately causing human rights abuses that lose him political influence out of stupidity.


[12-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
multiple outgoing cabinet members have claimed that trump insisted that they do stuff which they told him was illegal multiple times, there's a point at which you can just no longer deny something fishy's going on


[12-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
trump has literally said that he prefers the temporary cabinet members and heads of departments over the permanent cabinet members because they give him more "flexibility" (ie: easier to ignore and replace if they tell him he can't do something)


[12-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure this is the longest we've had so many acting cabinet members and department heads simultaneously in history


[12-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/us/politics/trump-acting-cabinet-secretaries.html

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Another Day, Another ‘Acting’ Cabinet Secretary as Trump Skirt...
President Trump has named a new “acting” secretary for homeland security, another in a series of temporary appointments that avoid a confirmation fight with Congress.
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[12-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
>“The Senate grappled with this question in the very first Congress when it ordered George Washington to send nominations to the Hill at a reasonable pace,” said Paul Light, a professor of public service at New York University who has written extensively on the appointment process. “Senators rightly worried that presidents might use acting appointees to evade oversight and institutional prerogatives. Yet, we haven’t heard a word from the Senate on the Trump administration’s abuse of its acting authority.”


[12-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
this was literally one of the main concerns of the founding fathers, and trump is hitting a lot of the ticks that the founding fathers had when they had the idea of a dictator trying to take control of the country


[12-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
>The Constitution requires that the president obtain “the advice and consent of the Senate” before appointing cabinet officials. Legal scholars also questioned the president’s power to use the “acting” authority in replacing Ms. Nielsen.


[12-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
this is also the opinion of justice clarence thomas


[12-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/711229419/how-the-trump-administrations-transgender-troop-ban-is-affecting-one-military-fa

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How The Trump Administration's Transgender Troop Ban Is Affecting ...
The Trump administration gave transgender service members a deadline to secure a medical diagnosis before the new ban took hold. But military families are struggling with the accelerated timeline.
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[12-Apr-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Apr-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
god, alt-righters are hypocritical as shit


[12-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/11/senate-nuclear-option-filibuster-1271791

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Schumer, McConnell trade blame as Senate declines
The state of the Senate is bad, and it could get worse.
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[12-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
🦀 senate is dead 🦀


[12-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/politics/white-house-migrants-sanctuary-cities.html

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By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and ZOLAN KANNO-YOUNGS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/politics/white-house-migrants-sanctuary-cities.html
White House Considered Releasing Migrants in ‘Sanctuary Cities’
The idea was suggested as the president condemned migrant caravans from Central America headed toward the southwestern border, people familiar with the plan said.
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[12-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump tweeted this idea a while bakk


[12-Apr-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
turns out he actually had people try and see about implementing it around the midterms.


[12-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, The Senate has spoken https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/712427498/mcconnells-2020-plan-cast-gop-as-firewall-against-socialism

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McConnell's 2020 Plan: Cast GOP As 'Firewall' Against Socialism
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledged that Republicans need to regain support with women and college graduates in the suburbs-- which he said led to loss of the House in 2018.
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[12-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
A firewall against sane policy.


[12-Apr-19 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burn the forests! there;s gold in them thar oil hills!


[12-Apr-19 07:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
'"You add up things like packing the Supreme Court, getting rid of the electoral college, the Green New Deal, and Medicare for none and you have a prescription of turning America into something it never has been and never should be," McConnell said.'


[12-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>getting rid of the Electoral College is socialism


[12-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the dumbest thing I've heard from McConnell in a while.


[12-Apr-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/438440-co-founder-of-israel-boycott-movement-denied

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Co-founder of Israel boycott movement denied entry to US: report
The founder of a movement to boycott Israel has reportedly been denied entry to the United States, despite having necessary travel documents.
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[12-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you think that mcconnell's declaration to stand "against socialism" will be called McConnellism in a few decades?


[12-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[12-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think things'll be named Trumpism and McConnell will be remembered as a bad pawn


[12-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'm pretty sure he'll be dead in the next 5 years


[12-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
His Senate legacy will show very little of importance besides helping Trump.


[12-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's 77, note


[12-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chance of death doubles every 8 years after 60


[12-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich as he is, he's not making it to 85


[12-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not in that good a shape.


[12-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, trump's literally slurring his words and not even bothering to correct himself anymore


[12-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that trump's going to die before mcconnell does


[12-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might die in the same year


[12-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're of very similar ages and both clearly on the decline physically.


[12-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Trump might die after whatever impeachment stuff happens, in early 2020


[12-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and McConnell might die in late 2020 after midterms


[12-Apr-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
err, generals, not midterm.


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Rich guys tend to linger


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Even with dementia


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but they're hitting life expectancy.


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And neither is taking care of themselves well.


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're on borrowed time now.


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will probably die from heart problems, McConnell might just come down with nasty cancer.


[12-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
That's wishful thinking


[12-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling trump hasn't had a legitimate check-up since his teens


[12-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Besides Trump can afford a new heart real or artificial


[12-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Current artificial hearts only last a few years, normally.


[12-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're temporary before a real one comes


[12-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but even with a real one, you need to be on immunosuppressant drugs for life


[12-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
medicine just is taking time to advance on this


[12-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
lab-grown organs will revolutionize medicine


[12-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
just like lab-grown meat will revolutionize the meat industry


[12-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
why eat soylent green when you can just have meat of yourself grown in labs?


[12-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
autocannibalism without the pain, it's like having your arm and eating it too


[12-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Dick cheny got a heart transplant at 71


[12-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Honahue#0656
And he's still here 6 years later


[12-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Honahue#0656
His first heart attack was when he was in his 30's


[12-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump's in bad shape but he's in better shape than that


[12-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/politics/white-house-migrants-sanctuary-cities.html

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By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and ZOLAN KANNO-YOUNGS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/us/politics/white-house-migrants-sanctuary-cities.html
White House Considered Releasing Migrants in ‘Sanctuary Cities’
The idea was suggested as the president condemned migrant caravans from Central America headed toward the southwestern border, people familiar with the plan said.
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[12-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/india-elections-narendra-modi-bjp-congress-hindu-nationalism.html

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India’s Democracy Could Be at Stake in Its Elections Starting Th...
The vote will be a referendum on Narendra Modi’s brand of Hindu nationalism.
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[12-Apr-19 11:51 AM] ononim#8141
http://leviathan-supersystem.tumblr.com/post/184118927349/current-mood-is-screaming-the-bjp-twitter-handle

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can the naxalites overthrow the indian government like, asap
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[12-Apr-19 11:51 AM] ononim#8141
relevant


[12-Apr-19 11:51 AM] ononim#8141
```current mood is screaming @ the BJP twitter handle explicitly saying they’ll remove anyone who isn’t buddhist, hindu or sikh from the country…i mean it isn’t even coded language they straight up put this on their social media lmao and implementation of the NRC (national register of citizens) is officially part of their manifesto

this is the party that’s currently in power and will likely win again in the 2019 elections 🤷🏽‍♀️ i don’t ever want to hear anything about hinduphobia ever again! like we’re trying to deal with fascism here, get a fucking grip folks```


[12-Apr-19 11:52 AM] ononim#8141
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[12-Apr-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I know vigilante justice isn't everyone's thing but this video gave me such a rush https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/comments/bc7j1k/pizza_shop_robber_staff_beats_him_up_so_bad_they/

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r/JusticeServed - PIZZA 🍕 SHOP ROBBER staff beats him up so bad...
13,193 votes and 1,062 comments so far on Reddit
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[12-Apr-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Don't do this


[12-Apr-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Apr-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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I’m not going to quote the NY Post’s horrifying, hateful cover.

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[12-Apr-19 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Haha are you fucking serious


[12-Apr-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/us/maryanne-trump-barry-misconduct-inquiry.html

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By RUSS BUETTNER and SUSANNE CRAIG
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/us/maryanne-trump-barry-misconduct-inquiry.html
Retiring as a Judge, Trump’s Sister Ends Court Inquiry Into Her ...
Maryanne Trump Barry faced complaints of judicial misconduct after a New York Times investigation found she had engaged in fraudulent tax schemes with her siblings.
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[12-Apr-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim "except buddhists, hindus, and sikhs"


[12-Apr-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er


[12-Apr-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are they aware there was a period of sharp rivalry between the Hindu and Sikh portions of India back in the 80's at least


[12-Apr-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was so serious it almost blew up into war in the East Punjab state


[12-Apr-19 05:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale must be rolling in his... whatever he got buried in


[12-Apr-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
That's hindutva for you


[12-Apr-19 05:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ugh


[12-Apr-19 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, any ideologue of any country of note that has the will to bullshit around and say their nation is entirely homogeneous can go fuck himself


[12-Apr-19 05:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>seize an oppurtunity and beat the fuck out of a robber potentially after your life


[12-Apr-19 05:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They probably should have just shot the guy and buried the body. Take his life before he can take mine, y'know :shrugpony:


[12-Apr-19 05:55 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Anyway, "Sanctuary Cities"


[12-Apr-19 05:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
So we're sending them to uhhhhhhh Flint, Michigan?


[12-Apr-19 06:04 PM] illumnious#7938
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/04/12/homeless-man-johnny-bobbitt-faces-sentencing-in-400000-gofundme-scam/

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Johnny Bobbitt To Be Sentenced Today In $400,000 GoFundMe Scam
Johnny Bobbitt has been accepted into a drug program and faces five years of probation as part of his plea deal.
https://cbsphilly.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/Johnny-Bobbitt.jpg?w=1280


[12-Apr-19 06:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye. One example for comparison would be what the Rhodesian white settlers did to the Africans in Zimbabwe, which is often ignored because of Mugabe. People often forget that, before Mugabe's allegedly scary baby eating socialist dictatorship, the Rhodesian apartheid regime confined the people it dominated into the most useless, infertile tracts of land.


[12-Apr-19 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is the same thing that's happening in the USA wih the Hispanic migrants -- keep all the good land to good Muricans (who just had the luck to be born into a Murican family), and gentrify everything so that most Latinos end up stuffed into the worst, most unstable places.


[12-Apr-19 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Confining Latino immigrants into a few cities from which they cannot leave is quite denigrating. Hell, the very livelihood and sometimes even survival of these migrants within the country they've migrated to is tied to a tiny green-coloured identification card.


[12-Apr-19 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/CourtneyHagle/status/1116704316490944513?s=19

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[12-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought stalking was illegal in this country


[12-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
👀


[12-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben shapiro must really want those smoking hot feet pics


[12-Apr-19 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking jesus, not only does Shapiro have a crush on her, the Fox News reporters also do?


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[12-Apr-19 06:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump advisers discussed whether military could build and run migrant tent cities https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-advisers-discussed-whether-military-could-build-run-migrant-detention-n993396

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Trump advisers weighed whether military could build, run migrant camps
Top Trump advisers met at the White House Tuesday to talk about increasing military involvement at the border, including building tent cities for migrants.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_15/2637536/181107-border-operation-mexico-caravan-se-234p_3ea6a260f5a9b5df9000d30d7384ce65.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[12-Apr-19 07:00 PM] Honahue#0656
it was bad enough when it was ICE running the camps but it'll be a straight up concentration camp with the military doing it


[12-Apr-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good fucking god, he;s actually weighing the possibility of real concentration camps


[12-Apr-19 07:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US in no stranger to running concentration camps.


[12-Apr-19 08:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>The Obama administration also used tents to hold immigrants in Donna, Texas, in 2016.*
"We need to remind the reader that Obama also did this, so people put less heat on Trump."


[12-Apr-19 08:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I mean I'm sure it wasn't to *this* extreme but let's conveniently leave that part out.


[12-Apr-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hot-take: both parties at their core or more-or-less the same and the only difference is rhetoric

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[12-Apr-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
And maybe slight derivations on certain issues.


[12-Apr-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
BSABSVR


[12-Apr-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, there's no reason why it's taken democrats in california so long to address the whole massive homelessness problem due to all the currently houses being absurdly expensive, and the worst part is that the way they're addressing it isn't by lowering housing prices, but building "affordable, starter homes" which will instantly be bought up by the rich assholes who already bought up the previously affordable houses and jacked up their value to the point that no one could afford them


[12-Apr-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
democrats might not be doing outright evil things right now like the republicans are, but they are definitely not very effective


[12-Apr-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let's introduce more resources so people have them but not actually put protections on them to make sure it stays that way"


[12-Apr-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Enjoy fighting the real estate moguls, you homeless fucks"


[12-Apr-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any time Democrats consider effective policy, Republicans call it Socialism and firewall it.


[12-Apr-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So before Democrats hav even settled on a compromise from their bikkering, it's thrown in the trash.


[12-Apr-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only the most conservative things Democrats come up with make it.


[12-Apr-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how Obamacare happened.


[12-Apr-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
AND REPUBLICANS STILL WANT TO KILL IT.


[12-Apr-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
uh, democrats have had a majority in every level of the state government for like 2 decades I think


[12-Apr-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Including the governor?


[12-Apr-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue is dirty politics where the minority just goes around the majorities back and figures out a way to pass anyway


[12-Apr-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
no actually, arnold was a republican, forgot about that


[12-Apr-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's important.


[12-Apr-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arnold's policies were kinda BS


[12-Apr-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
in 2018, they got a supermajority in both the house and the senate


[12-Apr-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
basically, california is as blue as you can possibly be now


[12-Apr-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
with no opposition party at all


[12-Apr-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet it's taken time to even push Republicans out


[12-Apr-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
the california republican party is apparently in shambles


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And a lot of what they waste time on is fighting the federal gov't when it's Republican.


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
and their first attempt at fixing things is to just build more houses


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
which is already proven to not fix anything


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because that's what everyone can agree to.


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
America is extremely conservative.


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
so democrats aren't effective, that's the whole point to begin with


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are hitting half liberal, and that's unusual.


[12-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course they're not


[12-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives hav disallowed liberalism for the last 50 years


[12-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Without liberalism, no new policy avenues happen.


[12-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans over the last 20 years hav become a conservative supeparty


[12-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats hav slowly bled off their racists and such to them


[12-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be a while before we can even consider stuff like what Finland does.


[12-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[12-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
California is a very moderate brand of Democratic


[12-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of old people.


[12-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They prefer Biden over Bernie, in large numbers.


[12-Apr-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's tactic would be to build more houses


[12-Apr-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's would be to giv them away to homeless people


[12-Apr-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a sane country, Democrats would encompass 80% of political parties.


[12-Apr-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be the fringe parties who only get power when there's a[n actual] migrant crisis stirring fears.


[12-Apr-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Trump admitted the "release illegal immigrants into sanctuary cities" thing


[12-Apr-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
trump admits to every single crime he's ever been involved with though


[12-Apr-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
just look at his twitter feed


[12-Apr-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/trump-cbp-commissioner-pardon/index.html

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Trump told CBP head he'd pardon him if he were sent to jail for vi...
President Donald Trump told Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Kevin McAleenan he would grant McAleenan a pardon if he were sent to jail for having border agents block asylum seekers from entering the US in defiance of US law, senior administration officials tell CNN.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190405174421-04-trump-border-wall-calexico-0405-super-tease.jpg


[12-Apr-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
this administration...


[13-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looking up more about Buttigieg for his stances


[13-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Buttigieg has stated that he believes the Supreme Court needs structural reform, emphasizing depoliticization and suggesting that the court be expanded to 15 members, five of whom can only be seated by a unanimous consensus of the other 10."


[13-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a Super Justice


[13-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like super politicization


[13-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gives the Supreme Court more power


[13-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
it would just make the supreme court the politicized branch


[13-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
wonder how long those 5 positions will end up going unfilled because the other 10 couldn't agree on a replacement


[13-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless one president somehow manages to appoint _ten_ justices


[13-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No it isnt


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well the idea is


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
when there's voting involved, there's politicization


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one gets exactly what they want


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally all of human history lol


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If they choose a radical on either side


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They will never get it


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it would have to be unanimous


[13-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
no one really talks about the corruption potential of the supreme court because I don't think there's ever been a major corruption scandal with a sitting justice


[13-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
He's onto something, but it needs work


[13-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
the problem would be making the court powerful enough for the justices to be worth bribing


[13-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
right now, the supreme court has a very passive role in the balance of power


[13-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
it's not really worth bribing justices when you can just bribe the people who appoint the justices


[13-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
but if you try to have them take a more active role in being a part of the government, they suddenly become worth bribing


[13-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
(lobbying = bribing btw)


[13-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
jesus https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/10/gas-money-restaurant-lunches-an-antique-desk-the-entire-w-va-supreme-court-could-be-impeached-for-corruption/


[13-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's old, but that's pretty bad lol


[13-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/impeachment-west-virginias-supreme-court/574495/

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A Supreme Court Impeachment Fight That’s Already Under Way
A decade ago, West Virginia foreshadowed the influence that money and politics have come to have on state judiciaries. Now it may warn of a worrying new trend.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/10/WVJustice_WebArt/facebook.jpg?1540995234


[13-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
>Republicans in Pennsylvania and North Carolina—two swing states with ongoing legal fights over redistricting—have pressured state justices with impeachment. Earlier this year, the Brennan Center for Justice, a nonpartisan policy institute at NYU’s School of Law, documented 16 state legislatures working to diminish their courts’ independence.


[13-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
>Even though Loughry, a Republican, was at the center of the allegedly corrupt spending, the state’s Republican legislature seized on the scandal and began a movement to impeach all five justices.


[13-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
>And the timing of the legislature’s vote to impeach the four remaining judges (excluding Ketchum, who had retired) raised eyebrows: It came just after midnight on August 14, the exact cutoff point at which the power to replace justices before the November elections moved to the governor, as opposed to voters in a special election.


[13-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.apnews.com/d0dba833e1694be49caa1603bcbde119

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West Virginia Senate mulls next steps in impeachment drama
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — The leader of West Virginia's Senate said he's mulling his options after the state Supreme Court refused to revisit a ruling that halted the impeachment process of several justices. "At this point, one branch of government has to be the adult in the...
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[13-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
basically, this whole thing proves that the judiciary is 100% not immune to political bullshit, and the only people who can approve strengthening the supreme court are also the people who would have the most to lose by doing so


[13-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-sets-himself-fire-white-house-secret-service-says-n994011

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Man sets himself on fire at White House, Secret Service says
The man was in a "wheelchair-type scooter" and lit his jacket on fire while on Pennsylvania Avenue outside the North Lawn's fence, the Secret Service said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_15/2820161/190412-white-house-incident-ew-335p_9d19be0000c6fca0ded090433f46c092.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[13-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47912140

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ICC refuses to probe Afghan war crimes
President Trump says the International Criminal Court decision is a "major international victory".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/07BE/production/_106428910_tv052705691.jpg


[13-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
more like "most powerful country on the planet would invade us if we decided to investigate this"


[13-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
the US commits comparatively few war crimes compared to all the other shit going on in the middle east anyway, it's sad that it can get away with it but there's much worse stuff going on that's much easier to prosecute


[13-Apr-19 02:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Does the hague have oil?*


[13-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
they plant oil on any american soldier being indicted with war crimes


[13-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/04/12/g-is-about-get-big-boost-trump-fcc/


[13-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
>The Trump administration and government regulators unveiled a major push Friday afternoon at the White House to accelerate the rollout of the high-speed, next-generation mobile data technology known as 5G.


[13-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
>Under the plan, the Federal Communications Commission will release a wide swath of high-frequency airwaves for cellular use in what will be the largest trove of U.S. wireless spectrum ever to be auctioned off. As much as 3.4 gigahertz of “millimeter-wave” spectrum could be sold to wireless carriers such as AT&T and Verizon in the sale, which will begin Dec. 10, according to FCC Chairman Ajit Pai.


[13-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
>The FCC also proposed a $20 billion fund to expand broadband in rural America over the coming decade, connecting up to 4 million households and small businesses to high-speed Internet, Pai said. The “Rural Digital Opportunity Fund” could launch later this year, after a period of public notice and comment.


[13-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
the $20 billion funding sounds like a massive kickback to companies who'll just be setting up shitty internet in rural areas for a massive profit


[13-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
>Millimeter frequencies only go very short distances.  Pitching this as something to benefit rural America shows Pai's dishonesty in how he is trying to sell this.


[13-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sanctuary-cities-immigrants-us-border-twitter-today-democrats-a8867716.html

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Trump confirms he is considering placing undocumented immigrants i...
Sanctuary cities invariably controlled by Democratic politicians
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/04/12/13/migrant-arrest.jpg


[13-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Of course this won't really have any impact on sanctuaries


[13-Apr-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
But in his mind he thinks latin americans are rapists and murderers and by putting immigrants in sanctuary cities he can "punish" them


[13-Apr-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
This guy has absolutely fucking lost it


[13-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet that trump won't like it if it turns out that the democrats are actually up to the challenge and it just makes them more popular


[13-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
granted, it's also an opportunity to use the influx of foreigners to denigrate and attack the democrats


[13-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Hahahahaha, throwing a bunch of refugees into the Bay Area would be terrible, established Americans can barely afford to live therr


[13-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
It would increase crime, not because they are naturally criminal just because they'd have to to survive


[13-Apr-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
It will probably decrease crime proportionally actually...


[13-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
you should realize that's exactly what I meant by "if it turns out that the democrats are actually up to the challenge"


[13-Apr-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
It's well established that immigrants behave better than native born citizens


[13-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I don't believe Dems are up to it


[13-Apr-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
They commit fewer crimes and they produce more for the economy


[13-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
like 80% of the problem nowadays is affordable housing


[13-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
like upwards of 60% of people's paychecks are going to just staying in a shitty apartment


[13-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah and it's really not present in the Bay


[13-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
And being homeless is a crime in some areas


[13-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
So even if they are law abiding they are criminal because the laws are stacked against them


[13-Apr-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Being homeless is a crime the way being black is a crime


[13-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah, but I'm not trying to say they are criminally inclined, I know that immigrents are better behaved


[13-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm saying that the issue is a systemic one that Dems are not going to fix


[13-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
And the immigrants are the ones that would suffer


[13-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Because the likely outcome is that property owners in the Bay area would take advantage of their immigrant status and fuck them hard on rents


[13-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
What are they going to do complain? cops might not turn them into the feds but a landlord sure as shit would


[13-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Basically guillotines for landlords


[13-Apr-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
See the thing is though


[13-Apr-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Dems control these areas


[13-Apr-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
And Dems are ... you know, liberal


[13-Apr-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Rent control and expanded welfare and housing projects are prototypical liberal projects


[13-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
the state legislature has a supermajority for the democrats for the first time


[13-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
and the governor is democratic


[13-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah California had a rent control bill in 2018 it failed


[13-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.housingwire.com/articles/48443-rent-control-back-on-the-table-in-california

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Rent control back on the table in California
The fight for rent control in the state of California is, seemingly, far from over. Months after the state's voters wholeheartedly defeated a rent control initiative in last November's election, the issue of expanding rent control in California has returned to the state's leg...
https://www.housingwire.com/ext/resources/images/editorial/A-New-Big-Images/Multifamily/In-the-pipeline-apartments.jpg?1552425582


[13-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
>The bills aim to cap annual rent increases across the state to prevent unjust evictions and to return to cities the authority to adopt their own rent control policies, according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle.


[13-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
It's good that it's back hopefully it'll pass this time


[13-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
the big thing is returning control to cities


[13-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
so people can get used to the idea locally


[13-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
like one of the biggest turn-offs for socialism in the US is that socialists are seen as some kind of mythical monstrous baby-eaters that aren't actually people


[13-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
which is why I think that socialists winning in chicago will go a big way to re-humanizing them


[13-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
I feel the same concept applies to any policy left of center nowadays


[13-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah and it's good we got some actual leftist in the public eye like AOC and Bernie


[13-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, fox news is literally going nuts over cortez


[13-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Hopefully it'll pull the overton window left but the Dems are still a party of corporate golems just with slightly less sexism and racism than the repubs


[13-Apr-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox news has a cortez fetish


[13-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Honahue#0656
They really want those feet pics


[13-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/04/12/Six-weeks-of-Foxs-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-obsession-Totalitarian-ignorant-scary-and-wagin/223386

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Six weeks of Fox's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez obsession: "Totalitari...
Obsessed.
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[13-Apr-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need more left demacrats but it;s going to be a hard fight for such things


[13-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Kamala Harris ce from the Bay and she jailed parents for their children's truency


[13-Apr-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess you could say they have *Cortez Derangement Syndrome*


[13-Apr-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/2WLuuCM6Ej0

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Congresswoman grills billionaire CEO over pay disparity at JP Morgan
California Democratic congresswoman Katie Porter spelled out to JP Morgan's CEO, Jamie Dimon, the real-world implications of the low wages his bank pays its ...
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[13-Apr-19 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://newsthump.com/2019/04/11/tv-fans-delighted-as-brexit-renewed-for-another-season/?fbclid=IwAR2X7fyjlJSRJP2jUpY0Px9JT7rD_3rs3-_cJ_gZsxvLTSY-xYqiVBnaeus

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Chris Ballard
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TV fans delighted as Brexit renewed for another season
Fans of Britain’s long-running comedy-drama Brexit are today overjoyed after learning that another season of the popular show has been commissioned.
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[13-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trumps-plan-to-send-migrant-detainees-to-sanctuary-cities-draws-concerns-about-cost-legality/2019/04/12/0ecec7d2-5d4a-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html


[13-Apr-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
>Should President Trump follow through on a proposal to release migrants in U.S. “sanctuary cities,” it would be a major departure from the way federal agencies are handling detainees. It could also be prohibitively costly and make it more difficult to deport migrants once they reach those cities.


[13-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
>The plan — which Trump tweeted Friday is under “strong consideration” — would have the Department of Homeland Security moving migrants from detention centers to cities scattered across the country in vans, buses and airplanes. It would require a massive investment in transportation infrastructure, something that Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials told the White House would be “an unnecessary operational burden.”


[13-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
>It also would mean placing those detainees in cities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, meaning it could be very difficult to arrest them again.


[13-Apr-19 08:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so this is basically just to ruin sanctuary cities


[13-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's likely illegal too


[13-Apr-19 08:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
When has that ever stopped him from trying


[13-Apr-19 08:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There also seems to be a trend of opinions ranging from "they won't do anything about this" to "well, they can't arrest *everyone,*" 'cause our system just wasn't built to handle rampant corruption at every level working toward a coordinated goal


[13-Apr-19 08:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And we're not even close to the level of corruption you see in certain countries yet


[13-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our system wasn't designed to stop The South


[13-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It took a war to do it the first time


[13-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to take a loooooot of bullshit to do it this time.


[13-Apr-19 09:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The GOP is set to self-destruct but they're playing it like it's martyrdom


[13-Apr-19 09:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I'm not much of a fan of what follows from self-made martyrs


[13-Apr-19 09:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Playing the victim is a tried and true method of garnering support and claiming the moral high ground when you have done terrible things and are facing the consequences for it


[13-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worked poorly for The South since the 1780s


[13-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's worked at all is a travesty.


[13-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are way, way too willing to giv political power to people just because they seem disadvantaged in terms of relative economic scale etc.


[13-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It goes badly cause then an area intentionally ruining its own economy gets rewarded for it.


[13-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should be holding states responsible for causing the poverty in them.


[13-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the trouble is


[13-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans argue that blakk people deserve to wallow in shit cause they havn't pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps.


[13-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then argue the reverse when it comes to state gov'ts


[13-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't consistent.


[13-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to hold gov'ts more responsible and individuals less.


[13-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I guess that's the core problem


[13-Apr-19 09:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They also argue for a small government...while shifting as much power as they can into a corpocracy


[13-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservative thought is centered around the idea that YOU are responsible for everything


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and/or dictatorship


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
that being poor is a moral failing


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that gov't policy is some far-off words on a page


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that if it ever incarnates near you, it should be stopped from intefering.


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, if you ever get a time machine


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
your first responsibility is to go bakk and abduct Malthus


[13-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
before he wrote all his shit down


[13-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and very, very, very slowly kill him.


[13-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rest of the people responsible for general protestant thought in the 19th century are opitonal side targets.


[13-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler is as well.


[13-Apr-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But take out Malthus first.


[13-Apr-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if Trevalyn STILL makes Ireland starve, Wingbeat, blow him from a gun in front of the Queen.


[13-Apr-19 09:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Wouldn't that just create a time paradox?

If you go back in time to kill someone and succeed, then why would you, in the future, time travel to kill them if they were already killed off? That is one issue that can't be solved.

Me, personally, I'd go back in time and make sure Hitler never joins the first war and instead goes to art school. And leave a imprint that tells me in the future to go back in time and do the exact thing. That way I create a time loop. (A sort of event that happens over and over and doesn't cause a Time paradox)

Another thing I'd do is install my own ideology in the past that would encourage the invention of time, space, and possibly Dimensional travel.


[13-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, if a time paradox is made by this


[13-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you basically can't change anything from over 100 years ago


[13-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause just changing who is Prime Minister in England 200 years ago could change some aspect of your parents' lives around the time that your mother's egg cell is inseminated


[13-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
different sperm being the first to make it in means a different set of DNA for their child


[13-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means you don't exist.


[13-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, MILLIONS of people cease to exist if you change what happens in 1800


[13-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would make time travel to do anything at all completely impractical.


[13-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If paradoxes happen and matter.


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I actually have a list of events that could be changed not only without killing anyone, but also avoiding a time paradox.

Keep Hitler in Art school, prevent Woodrow Wilson from becoming president... ever, make sure Theodore Roosevelt becomes president instead, get the USA in WW1 as early as possible, prevent the Russian Revolution and Communism from becoming a thing, and with all that done World War 2 either won't happen, or it won't be as horrific.


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't avoid a paradox


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I just went over


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you change a historical event people care about


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you cause cascading changes


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
minor changes, yes


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they CHANGE WHICH SPERM GET IN


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not true.


[13-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Different sperm = different DNA = different person


[13-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
which sperm gets in is incredibly sensitive to initial conditions


[13-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
a difference of a few minutes for when sex happens changes it


[13-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mostly likely change when a lot of people hav sex by at least a minute


[13-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That then cascades further down the timeline


[13-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately after a century you've basically replaced half the population of the country that cared about that political event


[13-Apr-19 09:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not necessarily true.


[13-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is basic biology.


[13-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would need INCREDIBLY stable mating choices to prevent this.


[13-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't exist in humans.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
People fukk at extremely particular times and are extremely fikkle about it.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not really, you're implying that changing the events I listed would alter who gets born.

It doesn't. It just means horrific events never happen.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making a different person be president could also change whether someone's able to orgasm on a particular day.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It *has to* alter who gets born.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those events affect who gets born.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No, no it doesn't.


[13-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
this is chaos theory 101 you're arguing against lol


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your father chose a different beverage the night he produced you, you would cease to exist


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone else would be born instead of you


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That's ridiculous.


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
with different DNA and thus different personality and behavior


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, that's biology.


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
it is ridiculous


[13-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
because this is a ridiculous universe we live in


[13-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Men walk around with several million sperm


[13-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
only one of those sperm can fertilize the egg


[13-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, sperm are regularly replenished


[13-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and each carries a different half of the guy's DNA


[13-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which half is used matters in the child.


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And while only a select amount of sperm are able to make it to begin with


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's still many thousands of those


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Preventing the man responsible for the world today from becoming President, Woodrow Wilson, has nothing to do with who gets born.


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
which one gets in is arbitrary.


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
which testicle a dude scratches can affect which sperm makes it


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to do with which beverages people consume, or which papers they read


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
or when they go to bed


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
it changes who gets picked for cabinet


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
which changes who gets which positions in the departments


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay who taught you biology? Goofy?


[13-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
any little factor different can change when people fukk or how they fukk


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
...are you in school, dude?


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
we aren't even talking biology, we're talking chaos theory


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you had sex ed?


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

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[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I graduated school.

No, but I watch porn.


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
wearing different clothes affects sperm count


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
which school?


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
porn doesn't teach you about this shit


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Webster.


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
High school.


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so you havn't gone thru college


[13-Apr-19 09:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it real simple


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to hav no idea how physical systems work at a micro scale.


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Wearing different clothes does not affect sperm count.


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes it does


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
several studies hav shown this


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
repeatedly


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
with consistent results.


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know *why* sperm count is affected?


[13-Apr-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
btw, it doesn't take one sperm cell to fertilize an egg, it takes anywhere from 20-100 to actually break down the egg enough for a single sperm cell to actually penetrate


[13-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ballsakk actually has a damn purpose letting your balls hang out, you see.


[13-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
I forget how long exactly it takes for the egg cell to start rejecting other sperm cells after one penetrates, but it's within microseconds


[13-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It regulates temperature so the sperm don't overheat and stay warm too.


[13-Apr-19 09:38 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm still trying to figure out how we went from politics to a science lecture. I only took science so I could learn how to blow stuff up.


[13-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more layers of clothing you put over top of it, and for longer periods


[13-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the less sperm you hav.


[13-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The clothing that leads to a very high sperm count? Kilt, with no underwear.


[13-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naked is probably slightly better.


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but not a lot of people walk around naked every day that can be included in a large societal research sample)


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it changed because YOU started to talk about paradoxes with your headcanon of how history works


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
to be blunt


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're a dumbass


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No I'm not.


[13-Apr-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
because you're making claims about politically motivated time travel that don't make any sense, even if you somehow manage to keep existing in the new universe you created, assuming that your time travel machine couldn't actually take you back to your old universe and stays in the new one, you would return to a completely different "present time"


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just said you only took science class to blow shit up


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That shows complete disinterest in actual learning in a variety of topics


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No, I said blow stuff up.


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
likely indicating you hav discarded a lot of knowledge over the years


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I also took it because it interests me.


[13-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which words aren't too relevant here.


[13-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it really interests you, explosions need not be involved.


[13-Apr-19 09:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I want to be a scientist and create a interdimensional transporter to allow me to enter other dimensions.


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay well that's incredibly unrealistic to ever happen


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not really.


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying you want to be an engineer so you can be Iron Man


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No it's not.


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or you want to be a biologist so you can become The Hulk


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
technically, iron man is more achievable than an extradimensional transporter


[13-Apr-19 09:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay, now you're just talking crazy.


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
the extradimensional transporter would take energy levels above and beyond what humanity could hope to output any time this millennia


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not true.


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iron Man is ridiculous, but a lot less ridiculous than dimension-hopping.


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Just use nuclear power.


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear Power isn't infinite


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
he doesn't get it


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor infinitely scalable


[13-Apr-19 09:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
It doesn't have to be infinite.


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be above a certain finite amount


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
on both


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is not above them.


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
nuclear power isn't some all-powerful end-all that be-all power source


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear power is very, very efficient in terms of mass of fuel to energy output


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it doesn't hav crazy high energy output absolutely.


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's got nothing on fusion lol


[13-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it also takes EXTREMELY good facilities


[13-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't just scale it up by building more


[13-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't put a nuclear reactor every mile


[13-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you could, you likely wouldn't hav enuff within range to power some dimension-hopping


[13-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
I think it was like 1.33 kg of hydrogen to run a fusion reactor for a year


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
we currently hav an energy-related crisis


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
wherein we're burning shitloads of coal and oil


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
My idea is to create a interdimensional transporter that is energy efficient. Meaning it doesn't use a lot of energy.

Just a battery would be enough to power it.


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
...dude


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know nothing about *any* of this, do you?


[13-Apr-19 09:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes I do.


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, brief rundown of batteries


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Batteries operate by storing energy in electrical potential


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
An anode and a cathode and some stuff to separate the two, and allow flow when desired


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, PROBLEM


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I merely used battery as sort of the "a idiot could figure it out" example.


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our absolute best batteries that we can possibly make right now in energy density


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, you would need to siphon energy from black holes in order to have enough energy to transcend the universal barrier


[13-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
are fukkall compared to gasoline


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
let alone uranium


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
or plutonium


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Not really.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
prove it, it's your claim


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your idea is based on nothing, TMB


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's something a kid would say.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No it's not.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they'd say they want to be Iron Man.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they looked at some science stuff.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I have facts to back it up.


[13-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It absolutely is.


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What facts?


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you been digging in conspiracy theorist trash?


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
dude, you clearly know fuck all about science


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I actually paid attention in school.


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh *really*


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
okay so


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
TMB


[13-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
why does the Earth hav seasons?


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Because it rotates around the sun.


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I don't know.


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
We never got that far.


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Convenient.


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, first off, I think you mean "revolves", not "rotates"


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
``` I only took science so I could learn how to blow stuff up.```


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
you proved you know nothing by saying this


[13-Apr-19 09:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ugh... let it go.


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, revolving around the sun isn't sufficient for seasons


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
do stupid shit, win stupid prizes


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
the earth gets seasons because of it's tilt


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
and orbiting the sun


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The key is, the Earth is tilted 23.5 degrees off its axis of rotation


[13-Apr-19 09:51 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Oh yeah. I remember.


[13-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So twice a year, that tilt is in line with the facing and night and day are equal


[13-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the rest of the year, not equal all over


[13-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
twice a year, one pole is facing 23.5 degrees AWAY from the terminator


[13-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather, both are, but one's on the dark side, one's on the light


[13-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, what effect does the shape of the orbit play, TMB?


[13-Apr-19 09:54 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
How much sunlight we get.


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh...no


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the *size* of the orbit.


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Well you didn't really explain it.


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what shape orbits are?


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Orbs.


[13-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orbs are spherical, orbits are not.


[13-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same latin root, rather different meaning.


[13-Apr-19 09:56 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
What are shapes of orbits?


[13-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
spiralling ellipses, basically


[13-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
For planets, mostly just ellipses.


[13-Apr-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are *not* circles, btw.


[13-Apr-19 09:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
A ellipses isn't a shape. It's a state of motion, last I checked in science class.


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
An ellipse is a shape.


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Can you draw it?


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipse

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[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's defined by two focal points. A circle is a special case where the two are the same.


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
the red part is an ellipse


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
So it's a oval.


[13-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Ellipse-def0.svg/1280px-Ellipse-def0.svg.png

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[13-Apr-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orbits are elliptical for...well, it's a rather complicated reason, basically because momentum is conserved, and you end up with two focal points for the actual movement


[13-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways


[13-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Earth is further away from the sun during the Northern Hemisphere's winter


[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a tiny, tiny effect.


[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/30/5d/a3305d7f663d82b596a334d81c75b2ab.gif

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[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or wait, it's actually the Northern Hemisphere's Summer, Southern Hemisphere's Winter.


[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
wow, that preview is ass


[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Looks like a laser beam.


[13-Apr-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
GIF is a horrible format.


[13-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's showing the motion of the Sun and planets with the galactic center as a reference point.


[13-Apr-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tumblr_mj0vvcqnZx1qdlh1io1_400.gif

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[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
that one's better


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Now I see the planets.


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I thought they were atoms.


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
that's the sun orbiting the center of the galaxy


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
with the planets orbitting the sun


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Atoms aren't actually like that


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
While electrons move in "orbitals", they don't actually "orbit"


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
electrons are very weird


[13-Apr-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
electrons just kinda randomly pop around an atom


[13-Apr-19 10:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That reminds me of Johnny Bravo.


[13-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
while preferring certain areas based on their orbitals


[13-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electrons occupy particular, discrete energy states where they're in a particular shell around the nucleus


[13-Apr-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it gets very complicated as atoms come together and there's many electrons


[13-Apr-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electrons like to jump to lower energy states and closer shells, as well, spitting out the energy lost in the form of photons


[13-Apr-19 10:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I have a science related question.

Is it actually possible to manipulate cells to reanimate corpses? Or has no one tried that yet?


[13-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why things glow in infrared, and sometimes visible light too when very hot


[13-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
reanimating a corpse is incredibly unrealistic


[13-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, moment of death, cells start killing themselves


[13-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
they literally tear themselves apart in response to certain signals


[13-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This creates a sort of death wave across the body after too much stuff dies


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't say bring back to life, it is technically possible to reanimate a corpse


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
just not really worth the effort


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He implied at a cellular level.


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a dead body


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
cells are rekt


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
super rekt


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot easier to grow a new body and control that than it is to control an already dead body


[13-Apr-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if they don't literally tear themselves apart, they run out of necessary life-sustaining chemicals the blood normally brings in


[13-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your body goes thru a lot of shit in a day to keep running


[13-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
if oxygen is deprived, and cells can't thus replenish energy stores of ATP


[13-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why all fictional settings have some hand-wavey energy source for all the fantastical things that happen


[13-Apr-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll run out of it and RIP


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cells contain very, very complicated machinery to function


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of it needs ATP


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And once things stop working, physically, bonds break down


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not sure if anyone has attempted to actually reanimate a dead body though.

The theory is untested and has a lot of consequences.


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a theory


[13-Apr-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an idea


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's basically impossible


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you're asking is like


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
telling someone to go into Germany at the end of WWII


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and rebuild it to exactly how it was before


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Nothing is impossible. Just improbable.


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
down to every last brikk


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence the "basically"


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh yes, in theory it could be done if you had perfect information and very very good nanomachines


[13-Apr-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[13-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a reason it took years on Shepard in Mass Effect, that's a somewhat more realistic setting


[13-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they had to replace a lot of shit including putting an AI in his brain


[13-Apr-19 10:12 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I've never played Mass Effect.


[13-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really worth it unless you are a society with VERY advanced tech and really, really want a particular person bakk


[13-Apr-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the thing is


[13-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
even that was somewhat unrealistic cause it preserved personality


[13-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brains are fragile


[13-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
10 minutes of oxygen deprivation = may never be able to talk or walk again


[13-Apr-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even if you had your army of nanomachines fix someone up


[13-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're basically just gonna stare blankly at a wall for years


[13-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be realistic, Shepard would've had to hav gotten entire lobes of his brain replaced with AI tech.


[13-Apr-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
they could do it if they had a map of his brain beforehand


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
he'd be missing whatever memories he had created since the map was taken though


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, reanimating corpses


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
You know I have literally no knowledge of Mass Effect outside of minor stuff from YouTube, right?


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
that's how EVE online works


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd need at minimum technology we likely won't hav for at least 150 years.


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it ain't gonna bring someone bakk


[13-Apr-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
it basically snapshots your brain at the time of your pod being destroyed (which also has the nasty side effect of frying your brain) and sends that information to a clone to be imprinted


[13-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless you very thoroughly probed their brain beforehand.


[13-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And at that point


[13-Apr-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it might be easier to create a new body


[13-Apr-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and just hav your nanomachines wire its new brain correctly.


[13-Apr-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
I'd say eve online is one of the more realistic futuristic sci-fi fantasies


[13-Apr-19 10:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I've actually got so many science related questions in my head, I just want to become I scientist so I can answer them myself.


[13-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Based on what you've said so far, the vast majority of answers are "no"


[13-Apr-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Potentially, all of them are "no"


[13-Apr-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know about the Dunning-Kruger effect, right?


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not really.

My own theory could in fact be a yes.

My other questions:

Cloning, is it possible?

Is it possible life existed on Mars?

Why did NASA stop sending people to the moon?

Not really, no.


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
cloning has been done for decades, mainly on animals


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
life can't exist on mars, it's toxic to life


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cloning in the sense of creating a genetically-identical individual can be done, but the results so far don't liv long.


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
it may have existed in the past


[13-Apr-19 10:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That was my question.


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that that doesn't mean identical


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
but likely not on any scale larger than bacteria


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
just *genetically* identical


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
environment has a huge effect on how people grow up


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
NASA stopped sending people to the moon because there was no incentive to do so


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
More than that


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA required funding from Congress to send people to the Moon


[13-Apr-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but with the Soviets beaten in the Space Race


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was no incentive to keep sending people


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA had more missions planned


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
were they scrapped just because of defunding, or just because they had no reason to go back?


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But those were riskier missions, the LEM's ascent engine might not work after a week on the lunar surface.


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Defunding + risky


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea was like


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they kept sending people up


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually someone wouldn't return.


[13-Apr-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd look *really bad*.


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the Apollo program was super expensive.


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ironically, some people never made it into space.


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later on, they were asking for money for the Space Shuttle, not Apollo.


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Look at a the shuttle explosions.


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
relatedly


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo 15 had issues


[13-Apr-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the astronauts nearly had a heart attakk on the Moon


[13-Apr-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
His potassium levels were very low, and on the way bakk he had to be handled rather carefully.


[13-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo 16 got sent up with instructions to drink their not-quite-tang a lot, which was laced with tons of potassium and magnesium


[13-Apr-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This had the rather unpleasant side effect of horrible flatulence, but nobody nearly had a heart attakk.


[13-Apr-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
(to the point John Young swore while accidentally leaving his mic on and complaining about having "the farts again")


[13-Apr-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, dangerous shit


[13-Apr-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Apr-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that lunar ascent engine


[13-Apr-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
CANNOT BE RESTARTED


[13-Apr-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(nor tested as a result)


[13-Apr-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it used fuel so corrosive, it's fire-once.


[13-Apr-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the valves would not survive reignition.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA had good reason to be concerned about the longer duration missions they wanted to do actually happening without stranding astronauts.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I actually brought up the moon because I wanted to know the logical reason behind it.

I listened to some Creepypasta readings that felt like someone took a conspiracy theory and altered it into a horror story.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They considered a bakkup escape vehicle, basically a standing jetpakk.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
logical reason behind the moon existing?


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
or logical reason behind why we went to the moon?


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The logical reason is we only went there to win a PR victory against the soviets.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, mainly PR victory


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a big bright target in the sky.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
We made it there first.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Why NASA quit sending people to the Moon


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They never made it.


[13-Apr-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
why did they use that corrosive fuel? to save weight?


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was no reason to continue.


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, at the time it was like the only option.


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't take Hydrolox up for a week.


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll boil off


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the tanks are enormous


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boeing's considering a lunar SSTO with Hydrolox


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll be **14m tall**


[13-Apr-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts will need a damn elevator to get on and off it on the Moon.


[13-Apr-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
can't use a ladder in a space suit?


[13-Apr-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can, but...14m?


[13-Apr-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd almost certainly end up falling.


[13-Apr-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
or a cord


[13-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
one that you can stick your boot in and push a button to pull you up or carry you down


[13-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically an elevator with less protection.


[13-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
weighs a lot less too


[13-Apr-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but protection is a big deal.


[13-Apr-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not want to fall onto the Moon.


[13-Apr-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The regolith is ridiculously sharp


[13-Apr-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like asbestos


[13-Apr-19 10:33 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
The 90 Day Report?


[13-Apr-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to Mars would've been a suicide mission.


[13-Apr-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even going to the Moon was ridiculous.


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know how the Apollo astronauts pooped, TMB?


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
it still kinda is right now, but at least the technology would theoretically be able to get us there and back


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] Mikey#7286
we should go to Venus


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
no


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Apr-19 10:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Why not try exploring a Black Hole to see what's on the other side? That would have been.... very interesting.


[13-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no blakk holes within reachable distance by our spacecraft within several million years.


[13-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Mikey#7286
well, Mars isn't any better of an option


[13-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
the average temperature on the surface of venus is 864 degrees fahrenheit (462 degrees celsius)


[13-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, TMB, to pound into you how crazy spaceflight logistics are


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In space, poop doesn't fall off your butthole


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just stays there


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ewww...


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's a clinger


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
now, worse


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
your body does stupid shit in space


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
mars is a much, much better option than venus could ever be


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause there's no gravity to stress your muscles and bones


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you lose bone and muscle mass like crazy, becoming super weak


[13-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if you exercise


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
this is why having a spinning space station would be revolutionary


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA wanted to know just how bad this was


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they had the Apollo astronauts store their poop


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
so that we could generate artificial gravity


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the bone wastage ends up in the poop.


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the real fun is...zero gravity isn't kind to making a toilet


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the Apollo program didn't hav much time so


[13-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had vacuums for peeing


[13-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but for pooping...the "ass gasket"


[13-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
if there's ever an ISS 2.0, it should have artifical gravity


[13-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/liuywiac2ubhnlp7cpcd.jpg

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[13-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
poop sock


[13-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a sealable plastic bag that you poop into, with a little intrusion for your finger to get the poop to go in.


[13-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Mikey#7286
just put everyone in astronaut diapers


[13-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The space shuttle toilet malfunctioned horrifically on the first use


[13-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
particles of freeze-dried poop in the space shuttle air ready to reconstitute in astronaut's lungs...


[13-Apr-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
later on, it had a problem where an airlokk in it malfunctioned and an astronaut's ass was glued to the seat as precious air was venting around it


[13-Apr-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
with replacement air blowing in his face


[13-Apr-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were able to get it to close in time.


[13-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so Apollo astronauts would poop into the bag


[13-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
seal it up


[13-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
with a bit of disinfectant and moisture-absorber


[13-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
then mush it up with their hands


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
to spread that around so that bacteria wouldn't be able to grow and ruin test results.


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
on occasion...they didn't seal it up in time


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
floating pieces of poop


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC Apollo 8 has a rather interesting transcript on that one


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Apr-19 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
@TheMultiBrony21 wanna hear about how Apollo astronauts slept next?


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo had no such things.


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Sure.


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in zero G


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
sleeping is actually super easy


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause you just float


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Mikey#7286
@Starscraper lol ik, just felt like saying that


[13-Apr-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
no need for a bed or anything, just some straps so you don't hit buttons etc. in your sleep as you float around


[13-Apr-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, your clothes normally don't make physical contact with your body in space cause gravity doesn't force them to.


[13-Apr-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts basically are naked all the time, at least in how they feel.


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But, on the Moon


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a bit of a problem


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
see, NASA doesn't really think far ahead


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
they test things and see problems and fix those problems


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the early astronauts pissed in his suit cause nobody thought to put in a toilet


[13-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they couldn't just abort the launch and build one


[13-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were on the Moon, they had to sleep


[13-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The plan was to never take off their spacesuits on the Moon


[13-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause NASA had no idea if lunar dust was fatal or not to be inhaled


[13-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, in lunar gravity, at a slight tilt


[13-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't really sleep in a full spacesuit.


[13-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially not without any kind of bedding whatsoever


[13-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they took off their suits leading to getting lunar hay fever and having a horrible time sleeping because the LEM was full of life support crap that always had to run and had no sound insulation, and things would turn on and off pretty much randomly automatically.


[13-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later missions had hammokks at least.


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, TMB


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
thing is


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo was operating with a sort of..."we'll wing it" approach, because it'd be impossible otherwise.


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Saturn V was *monstrous* in design


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's still the biggest rokket that ever successfully flew


[13-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but space is hard


[13-Apr-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
all it could get to the Moon was a dinky little LEM with a slightly less dinky command pod in lunar orbit.


[13-Apr-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
with no toilets or beds or really any luxuries


[13-Apr-19 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA had to move on to smaller, less risky projects.


[13-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the Space Shuttle turned out to be CRAP


[13-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress demanded it be able to contain a spy sat in its cargo bay and they had to scrap like half their ideas.


[13-Apr-19 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The turnaround times were pure fiction.


[13-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big and fluffy would've at least had a chance of working.


[13-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but no, had to be this cargo bay of craziness with a ceramic tile heatshield with 35k individual tiles.


[13-Apr-19 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and SRBs that made it so the crew couldn't eject


[13-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the ISS is great cause it's testing the tech we'll need to return to the Moon with some amount of actual comfort.


[13-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And eventually to Mars with some amount of...survival.


[13-Apr-19 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Shuttle really failed in that regard cause of its other problems.


[13-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mars before 2040 is essentially impossible.


[13-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest problem is radiation


[13-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX still has no good plan to stop it.


[13-Apr-19 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if Starship was here today and flying, it's not taking people to Mars successfully if they all get horrible cancer halfway there.


[13-Apr-19 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those aren't the problem


[13-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a significant amount of radiation in space from extrasolar sources, particularly nasty shit like radioactive iron


[13-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What source is that from?


[13-Apr-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/10/01/astronauts-might-not-have-stomach-mission-mars/

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Why astronauts might not have the stomach for a mission to Mars
Space radiation would be likely to kill or severely weaken astronauts long before they reached Mars, a study by Nasa suggests.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/films/2017/11/17/TELEMMGLPICT000077590794-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqNUHzxaamNmHDqK-YksWRz2o-yMLyYquKCawpyDOW254.jpeg


[13-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the gamma rays and x-rays aren't the things to be concerned about.


[13-Apr-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't what ifs


[13-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We send people to Mars, heavy ions slam into their guts on a daily basis, most of them get cancer.


[13-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Mars itself doesn't protect them either, they'd need to bury themselves deep underground.


[13-Apr-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And *then* they need to come bakk.


[13-Apr-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
We havn't been able to fully study this yet, but the results in mice are...not promising


[13-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can't exactly just bombard people with a lot of iron ions


[13-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the ISS is mostly shielded from this


[13-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're misconstructing the problem...


[13-Apr-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is heavy ions, not normal radiation


[13-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Practically nobody on Earth is exposed to random pieces of charged *iron* moving faster than the speed of sound.


[13-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But some still get thru, that's the issue.


[13-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't sure we hav sufficient shielding to keep the cancer risk down.


[13-Apr-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure on Attuneation Coefficient. Also, we'd need a moonbase with astronauts basically to find out.


[13-Apr-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is, like, a big reason to push for Moonbase first.


[13-Apr-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw


[13-Apr-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
astronauts often develop eye problems


[13-Apr-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the eye seems to get misshapen from spending time in zero g


[13-Apr-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we need a damn Moonbase


[13-Apr-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just go to Mars first.


[13-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mars first means *something* will doom at least one astronaut, virtually guaranteed.


[13-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We nearly had an astronaut die of a heart attakk on the Moon


[13-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but we would've still gone with Skylab first


[13-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
what? we could've gone with skylab first


[13-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
we just would've had a slightly better time there.


[13-Apr-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA had plenty of funding, it just would've meant missing Kennedy's target by a year or two.


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
the progression of space station -> moon -> mars is incredibly logical


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're wavering in LEO for political reasons


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA can't go ANYWHERE with the current political climate


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because russia a shit


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and you know why?


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because THEIR BUDGET IS STAGNANT


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't fukking paying them anything to go anywhere.


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
a huge amount of their current budget


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
plus they're being forced to make shit that keeps as many jobs as possible


[13-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
goes to the SLS


[13-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is like the fifth thing designed to be a rokket that reuses Space Shuttle parts


[13-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing all five hav in common btw


[13-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
is they get canceled before they fly astronauts


[13-Apr-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, that's 5.5 billion a year, that's nearly a third of NASA's yearly budget


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd hav to scrap like a shitton of stuff


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it'd still likely kill astronauts


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
$5.5 billion in 1989


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA needs more money, and not spent on SLS


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLS is almost certainly gonna be cancelled too


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause guess what


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's ridiculously expensive


[13-Apr-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it doesn't do anything better than other alternatives


[13-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA with its current budget going to Mars would kill all the astronauts.


[13-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA with its current budget doing a moonbase might not even work.


[13-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA needs more money.


[13-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it needs to spend less of its money on shit like the SLS that's a rokket to nowhere.


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Apollo program took a shitton of money to work


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
$5.5 billion in 1989 is $11,137,803,091.40 in 2018


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it killed 3 astronauts on the ground


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
over twice the value


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ooh, that's significant, Crow


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause that means


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd take up 2/3rds of NASA's budget


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA isn't bogged down by bureaucracy or lakk of focus


[13-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
hav you even been listening to what NASA REGULARLY TELLS PEOPLE about what's going on in its projects?


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(hint: especially commercial crew)


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the program that will be sending up its first astronauts in a few months)


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(when it's been running for nearly a decade)


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Commercial crew is not "great"


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know WHY it has taken SO FUKKING LONG?


[13-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy in charge of it on a regular basis comes to congress


[13-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he asks for money to hire people to get all the documentation and shit (that congress demands) completed


[13-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
every single time, they tell him he's not getting any more money


[13-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they direct more money to SLS


[13-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLS, the rokket that is like fifth in a line of rokkets that money has been spent on without ever flying astronauts


[13-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and every time they get close to flying astronauts


[13-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly, cancellation


[13-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, one of those programs


[13-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
was the Ares


[13-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
which according to a review had a 100% chance of killing the astronauts if something went wrong in the first 60 seconds.


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, NASA will always be building a Space Shuttle "replacement"


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho it REGULARLY asks not to be


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho it REGULARLY asks to get money in other areas


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Congress is forcing it to act as a jobs program


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
because jobs


[13-Apr-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress demands a new rokket, specifies the damn payload, specifies the suppliers


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not NASA that's doing red tape, their hands are tied


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
by Congress


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
what're the odds on people dying on the dragon capsule if something goes wrong with the falcon heavy?


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA isn't going around wasting money like crazy


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress is


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress forces NASA to work with contractors like Northrup Grumman


[13-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who recently hav had a string of failures creating setbakks on things like WFIRST


[13-Apr-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA could only reasonably do Mars Direct if all other programs were dropped


[13-Apr-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Congress completely removed restrictions on it aside of basic worker safety


[13-Apr-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and *even then*, they'd probably lose half the astronauts.


[13-Apr-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least, if they tried to do it by 2040


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unmanned is only less politicized cause there's less money


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it takes less rokket to get a rover to mars than a crew pretty much anywhere.


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also there's less safety restrictions


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX isn't some god that can just magically make their plans actually happe


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
they've had routine schedule slips


[13-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Falcon Heavy came like 5 years late


[13-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's looking like their Moon missinos are waiting on Starship entirely


[13-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
which probably won't be ready until 2021


[13-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(at the earliest)


[13-Apr-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
From there, they'd need to get Starship transporting testing stuff to Mars in the mid 2020s


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
is there such a thing as a commercial astronaut yet?


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
To even hav a potential for someone to go orbit Mars in the early 2030s


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually landing on Mars and returning...is stated to require craft sent in advance


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
I imagine spacex would have to do quite a bit of training to get their own moonbase astronauts


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
that'd mean mid 2030s


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So at the very earliest


[13-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX would be putting people on Mars in the late 2030s


[13-Apr-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not likely


[13-Apr-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a lot of requirements before you get a man setting foot on Mars


[13-Apr-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the way the launch windows work, those requirements add up.


[13-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't the same things.


[13-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're creating the same mistakes as people who stop trusting polls after Hillary lost.


[13-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah... it'd be like building a base on the moon and having it spontaneously explode a couple times before it becomes habitable


[13-Apr-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The technical feasibility of RTLS was never really in doubt


[13-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neighsayers were offbase.


[13-Apr-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And barge landings failed regularly early on.


[13-Apr-19 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
also, that thing about NASA engineers saying it wasn't possible was an one-off comment by spacex's lead engineer that he claims that a NASA engineer said, there's no other public documentation of this happening


[13-Apr-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
For all we know, some guy who interned at NASA was drunk one night and wanted to slander SpaceX by saying he didn't think they'd pull it off.


[13-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA as a whole is generally not so pessimistic and they often refer positively to SpaceX


[13-Apr-19 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect that has something to do with the pay not getting much better over time and NASA being little more than a jobs factory with SLS a lot of the time...


[13-Apr-19 12:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://splinternews.com/what-exactly-did-these-racists-think-would-happen-1833998596

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What Exactly Did These Racists Think Would Happen?
Both the Washington Post and the New York Times reported the incredible story last night of the Trump administration’s proposed plan to bus detained immigrants to sanctuary cities, a way, as the Times put it,  “of punishing Democrats for resisting budget requests for more...
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[13-Apr-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e7462797b895453894306751a0430370

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Kim open to another summit with Trump, with conditions
PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said he is open to a third summit with President Donald Trump, but set the year's end as a deadline for Washington to offer mutually...
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[13-Apr-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy another round of simon says where only kim walks away with the upper hand


[13-Apr-19 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
trump just treating kim like an equal to begin with raised north korea's standing in global politics


[13-Apr-19 03:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
From the looks of things the summit doesn't even need to happen for Kim to benefit


[13-Apr-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north korea is never going to denuclearize, he just needs to meet with trump to be taken mroe seriously by everyone else


[13-Apr-19 03:08 PM] Crow#5457
now he's able to say stuff on this level and actually be considered legitimate


[13-Apr-19 03:08 PM] Crow#5457
when before, anything he said would be dismissed as insane ramblings


[13-Apr-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/217f84d3578743f2a8783acf33f14d34

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The Latest: DHs denies Trump urged 'anything illegal'
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump and immigration (all times local): 9:20 p.m. The Department of Homeland Security denies that President Donald Trump "indicated,...
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[13-Apr-19 03:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm offended not just by the content of the article but also that they had to use a photo of Donald where he's making a 👌 sign


[13-Apr-19 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I think that's fantastic


[13-Apr-19 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
didn't someone link a video of an insane trump supporter yelling some random shit while forcefully doing that handsign


[13-Apr-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, he was chanting USA USA USA


[13-Apr-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1113963007917416450

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Another Trump “patriot”... https://t.co/2RJ1p2y7Kd
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[13-Apr-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s good to know that guy is violently ok


[13-Apr-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this hand sign thing is stupid


[13-Apr-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess we need to come up with a new hand sign for confirmation of being ok


[13-Apr-19 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
👌


[13-Apr-19 04:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🥛


[13-Apr-19 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[13-Apr-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🥔


[13-Apr-19 04:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wow I can't believe the potato is a symbol of white supremacy


[13-Apr-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
irish supremacy


[13-Apr-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
@DevField


[13-Apr-19 04:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*cAn We DePlAtFoRm PoTaToEs*


[13-Apr-19 04:19 PM] DevField#5162
:twidab: 🥔 :twidab:


[13-Apr-19 04:19 PM] DevField#5162
Tiocfaidh ár lá


[13-Apr-19 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
gay lick

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[13-Apr-19 04:20 PM] DevField#5162
Irish


[13-Apr-19 04:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_language

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Irish language
Irish (Gaeilge) is a Goidelic (Gaelic) language originating in Ireland and historically spoken by the Irish people. Irish is spoken as a first language in substantial areas of counties Galway, Kerry, Cork and Donegal, smaller areas of Waterford, Mayo and Meath, and a few othe...
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[13-Apr-19 04:23 PM] Crow#5457
I remember seeing an article about the history of barefooting, and it specifically mentioned that ireland had a lot of people barefoot up until the late 1800s when the english started stigmatizing it


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] DevField#5162
I know my grandparents walked to school barefoot


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] DevField#5162
On my dad's side, anyways


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i could walk places barefoot


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but noooo


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://ahcuah.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/irish-bare-feet/

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Bob Neinast
https://ahcuah.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/irish-bare-feet/
Irish Bare Feet
Earlier I talked about Scottish Bare Feet and how going barefoot was quite common, particularly among women and children, until about 150 years ago. Things were similar over in Ireland.
https://ahcuah.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/qvicke.gif


[13-Apr-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
ben shapiro wants alexandria ocasio-cortez's bare feet

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[13-Apr-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the whole of fox news wants them feets


[13-Apr-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fox News & Ben Shapiro:

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[13-Apr-19 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the reason why everyone went barefoot was because everything was so soggy that you couldn't walk even 15 meters before anything you were wearing was soaked to shit


[13-Apr-19 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
and before modern antifungals and antibacterials, soaked feet = infected feet


[13-Apr-19 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
it's why sandals have been by far the most popular footwear throughout history


[13-Apr-19 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
granted, the downside to sandals before rubber was that they slipped all over the place


[13-Apr-19 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
so any place that was wet and soggy couldn't wear sandals


[13-Apr-19 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
@DevField https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641267882/i-wouldn-t-move-back-deported-irish-man-creates-a-life-in-his-new-home

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https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641267882/i-wouldn-t-move-back-deported-irish-man-creates-a-life-in-his-new-home
'I Wouldn't Move Back': Deported Irish Man Creates A Life In His N...
Dylan O'Riordan, who was living in Boston illegally before being picked up by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. His parents brought him to the U.S. when he was 12.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/08/23/undefined_wide-c7c55f5419944955067c50bc4bbc1c7b1611ff1b.jpg?s=1400


[13-Apr-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree with that guy


[13-Apr-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for me is i;m still in america


[13-Apr-19 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
>The U.S. government ordered him removed to a peaceful, prosperous nation, and he has moved in with relatives in one of the most popular cities in Europe.


[13-Apr-19 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
>"I wouldn't move back," he declares, gripping a pint glass. "Even if I was given [U.S.] citizenship tomorrow, I wouldn't move back."


[13-Apr-19 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
>He continues: "You never see any real trouble like you see around parts of Boston [where] there's a lot of gang violence. But here everybody gets along with everybody. You never see any trouble around Galway."


[13-Apr-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really need to get my blood tested for ancestory purposes so i can see about applying for irish citizenship


[13-Apr-19 05:02 PM] DevField#5162
Ireland is a very pleasant place to live. I plan to live here for the rest of my life.


[13-Apr-19 05:02 PM] DevField#5162
Tfw I can't English


[13-Apr-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
potatoes are gay


[13-Apr-19 05:07 PM] DevField#5162
Potatoes are *great


[13-Apr-19 05:08 PM] DevField#5162
Potatoes make up a large part of my dinner 6 days a week


[13-Apr-19 05:08 PM] DevField#5162
They're quite versatile


[13-Apr-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
🥔


[13-Apr-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
🏳️‍🌈


[13-Apr-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🍟


[13-Apr-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
terrible


[13-Apr-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I hate fries


[13-Apr-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
good fries are good


[13-Apr-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
bad fries are bad


[13-Apr-19 05:17 PM] DevField#5162
^


[13-Apr-19 05:17 PM] DevField#5162
Chips are nice


[13-Apr-19 05:17 PM] DevField#5162
I've gone off takeaway ones though


[13-Apr-19 05:17 PM] DevField#5162
Too greasy


[13-Apr-19 05:17 PM] DevField#5162
Thanks autocorrect


[13-Apr-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
you sound way too british right now


[13-Apr-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
also, >oil


[13-Apr-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna invade you right now for that


[13-Apr-19 05:18 PM] DevField#5162
Invade me daddy


[13-Apr-19 05:18 PM] DevField#5162
:GoldNUT:


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
We enjoy fish and chips here too


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
But we don't invade other countries


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
:twidab:


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
oily fish and chips


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
Yes


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
💰


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
🔫 💸


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
🛢


[13-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
:DeagleL:


[13-Apr-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/nyregion/mta-bus-riders-fare-beaters.html

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By EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS and EDGAR SANDOVAL
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/nyregion/mta-bus-riders-fare-beaters.html
1 in 5 Bus Riders in New York City Evades the Fare, Far Worse Than...
The statistic stunned even the transit system’s leader, who said it was “wholly unacceptable” and at least double the rate of other cities around the world.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/13/nyregion/13nybusjp-print/00nybus1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Apr-19 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I think it would be okay to have police on the buses to enforce fare collection, _so long as_ (1) they are not armed (2) they cannot issue fines (3) they may only act to prevent a fare dodger from boarding, and may not take any other action


[13-Apr-19 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
In other words, a mall cop


[13-Apr-19 07:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I cannot imagine that police presence will at all help. For one thing, to be effective you'd need to prevent both people skipping the fare box when boarding normally, and people sneaking in through the back door when it's offloading passengers. For another, due to the prevalence of people avoiding fares over the cost, it would be seen as unfairly targeting low-income and "problem" demographics, in a city that already has police distrust


[13-Apr-19 07:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'd also completely compound the inconvenience factor, which is, I think, the biggest driving force here. Their new contactless pay system (coming in May to staten island buses) should help a lot, I think


[13-Apr-19 07:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, *Pittsburgh* has had rfid-based payment systems on their buses for years now, and MTA doesn't


[13-Apr-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh


[13-Apr-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought they had those


[13-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Immigration is automatically put in terms of race because we make it illegal only for brown people to be here in general


[13-Apr-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things are made incredibly easy for white people to get here legally


[13-Apr-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the UK had the problems Mexico did, we'd be admitting literally every asylum seeker from it.


[13-Apr-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except the ones who strangely would hav their paperwork get lost until after a deadline while being originally from Kenya etc.


[13-Apr-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Australia did that to a lot of people, in an effort to completely prevent immigration from racial undesirables)


[13-Apr-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, conservatives giv big talk about following the law etc.


[13-Apr-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
but when Trump literally directs people to break it


[13-Apr-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly it's okay


[13-Apr-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you argue that:
Thing A is bad when brown people do it to get in
Thing A is good when someone uses it to stop brown people getting in


[13-Apr-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you aren't arguing Thing A is bad


[13-Apr-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're arguing that brown people shouldn't get in.


[13-Apr-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Starscraper ultimately, the only way you can get around it being racial here would be to say that AKSHUALLY you're against extremely white English people from bypassing immigration in the same manner as Mexicans, except I should note that that still discriminates based on where people are born, which is just racism's cousin.


[13-Apr-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also that, the very rules *making* people bypass immigration to begin with are effectively racially targeted, but of course I know conservatives' views are that if a policy TECHNICALLY doesn't apply a racial standard, but to any 5 year old obviously creates racial problems, it's A-OK to follow it cause TECHNICALLY the policy itself isn't doing the racism.


[13-Apr-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the people writing the policy are very, very clearly racist.


[13-Apr-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, fun thing about the "well we deported the Irish guy too!" argument is, guy was treated extremely well and kept together with his American wife for the most part, resulting in him easily developing a new life in Ireland.


[13-Apr-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
For Hondurans, we literally separate them from their children as a punishment (and it has been made quite clear Trump intends this as a punishment and intends to do it again) and then often later send them bakk to people we hav on record saying will kill them on sight.


[13-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it takes *more* resources to drop off people in sanctuary cities than in border towns.


[13-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is the current practice.


[14-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
"...think less of them because they're ... generally from very poor and/or 3rd-world countries with cultures very different from our own."
Totes nothing to do with race.


[14-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A linguistic barrier is *more* reason to not treat people like garbage.


[14-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
...dude


[14-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you not know the history of how we treated Asians?


[14-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to immigration and race?


[14-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know *how* treatment improved?


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll giv you a hint


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it didn't hav anything to do with their countries' wealth or languages.


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor culture.


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, post WWII


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our enemy was communism, the soviets


[14-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, people were INCREDIBLY racist against asians


[14-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were seen as basically worse than Mexicans, on par with blakks


[14-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is, Russia had designs on Asia


[14-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
History lingers.


[14-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the US gov't had a plan


[14-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it started putting out reverse racist propaganda


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Propaganda that said Asians were hard-working and intelligent as a race, unlike filthy, lazy Puerto Ricans etc.


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Asians immigrated, they were treated far better than before


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
then people would look to them and say


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, this Japanese man, he does well


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
you, blakk man, you don't do well


[14-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, Asians are as good as Whites and better than Blakks


[14-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-fulfilling prophecies are a *huge* part of how racism works societally.


[14-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(relatedly, in Japan there's a minority group that's discriminated against, the descendants of homeless during the Feudal period...they do worse on everything in Japan, but once they immigrate to America, they do the same as other Japanese)


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't explicitly uses race as a thing to control geopolitics on immigration


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And has done so since its inception


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Honahue#0656
The US spent the 50's -80's destabilizing central and south American countries because it suited business interest in the States


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It no longer has racial quotas


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it still relies on race, just less directly.


[14-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asians are given a fair chance in immigration because the gov't decided to reverse the stereotype direction on them.


[14-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even Asians who speak no English at all


[14-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
hav no work skills


[14-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
come from a poor-as-shit country


[14-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
etc.


[14-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
are given a much better shot at immigration than Mexicans


[14-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Mexico has a relatively similar culture to ours and people from there hav a pretty easy time linguistically too because English and Spanish are related languages and there's a lot of Spanglish on the border for transitioning.


[14-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the UK has like 8 million people in London alone


[14-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The total muslim immigrants it gets are in the tens of thousands


[14-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Macarou#9574
How similar is American and Mexican Culture, and how similar are Spanish and English?


[14-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people are changing school curriculums to ignore LGBT stuff, they're retarded.


[14-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Mexican food is pretty well known in the US


[14-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
We break pinatas at parties


[14-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Macarou#9574
We do?


[14-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least where I'm from


[14-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is so far north it borders Canada


[14-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinatas are a staple of kids parties.


[14-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The legal process is being made harder to make immigrants illegal.


[14-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to justify racist policies against them with "but they broke a law"


[14-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No shit they broke a law, they're running from people who would shoot their family to death.


[14-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make for a great pawn in all this.


[14-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd take most said cartoon villains over Trump tbh.

Another cultural thing is quinceneras IIRC.


[14-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, we're so familiar with quinceneras that MLP has an analog to them for cutie marks.


[14-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Macarou#9574
I've never seen a quincenera


[14-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Separating families at the border isn't a crappy compromise


[14-Apr-19 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
All conservative oppinions shall be regarded as sound only when the heads of the Iran-Contra conspirators, the puppet masters of the Guatemalan Death Squads, an d today's War Masters are brought before me by the truck load, and an oath is taken, "Thou shalt not touch any other country"


[14-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you mean Isolationist.


[14-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And jingoism uses racism as a tool.


[14-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are more unified in beliefs and goals than liberals.


[14-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They routinely defend each other's immoral behavior.


[14-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
While liberals will tear each other apart over it.


[14-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump has directly said that he wishes white countries like Sweden we're immigrating


[14-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's an argument against solving countries' problems solely by immigration.


[14-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's *not what liberals are asking for*


[14-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody thinks you can just take everyone in poverty from Mexico and ship them to the US and solve Mexico's problems.


[14-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing free travel helps only a few, but it's still *the right thing to do*.


[14-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But longer-term


[14-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
allowing much freeer travel reduces racism and nationalism that make nations unlikely to help each other


[14-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument on it hurting relies on it taking the upper class, instead of the lower.


[14-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a conservative ideal of immigration to begin with.


[14-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of accelerating immigration if you've already got a good job or skills for one.


[14-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals prefer immigration that doesn't require a fukking college degree to get.


[14-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You put forward a video with those ideals.


[14-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you didn't want it to be burned, don't make it your argument.


[14-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I watched it previously.


[14-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You were using its conclusions to argue that.


[14-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
What we should be doing is making immigration cheap and easy and sending in people to fix up other countries.


[14-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
ESPECIALLY the ones we broke to begin with.


[14-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way people are fine where they are and don't *need* to move, and we can still accept the few that still do.


[14-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But instead, Trump's denying aid


[14-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
vital aid


[14-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
after his own people said that aid helps prevent immigration to begin with.


[14-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It appears to me, Trump's goal is to create an immigration crisis


[14-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
for political gain


[14-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not cool with that


[14-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm especially not cool with its apparent blatantly racist goals.


[14-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traumatizing kids by taking them away from their families because they DARED to cross our little line in the sand.


[14-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
We wouldn't be facilitating brain drains if we propped up the impoverished to make the countries fine to liv in to begin with.


[14-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And incentivized people to stay and improve their economies.


[14-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he wants to be isolationist, why does he keep intervening?


[14-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He shoots missiles into Syria, he talks with North Korea, he makes a trade war with China.


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
The US is responsible for why so many South American countries need aid


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
because he's retarded


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is he ONLY isolationist when it comes to stopping brown people from crossing our line in the sand?


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
he's not isolationist he's "<country> makem e angry! me smash"


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
when Thing A is bad when it helps brown people immmigrate, but good when it stops them from doing so


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
or vice versa


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about Thing A being good or bad


[14-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about brown people immigrating.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't isolationist. He never was.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is anti-brown people.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Maybe if we murdered a few C-suites we can return the US economic property in these countries back over to those countries and they can be free to raise their standard of living, without fear of anything they do negatively impacting US corporate profits in the region since we're no longer there.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Chaquita banana is the first to go.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally during his campaign said Mexican immigrants were rapists


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That we were getting a bad deal by them coming in.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not isolationism.


[14-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's racism.


[14-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breaking immigration law doesn't magically confer rapist status.


[14-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the people crossing our imaginary line in the sand are *families*


[14-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Have you ever seen the store Banana Republic? It's named after the term for a Latin American country that the CIA put a US friendly government in so Fruit Inc, now Chacita, could make higher profits. A lot of those countries elected socialist governments that we're going to nationalize plantations


[14-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we're struggling to deal with all of them.


[14-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it hardly ever fukking happens.


[14-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rapes and murders are at an all-time low


[14-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would we want to make a huge news story about the one immigrant in a particular state in 2019 who committed a rape


[14-Apr-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
mexicans are not competing for your job


[14-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
when THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of people are being hurt in other ways


[14-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things that are affecting MANY more people of COURSE get made news stories.


[14-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't some grand conspiracy to keep quiet on immigrants secretly being inhuman abuse machines


[14-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you aren't going to work there.


[14-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[14-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can enforce minimum wage law if you giv them all citizenship and documents


[14-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
which we should.


[14-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a conspiracy to be racist


[14-Apr-19 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Salvador The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Americans would tell you. It's a Latino legend. Salvador was a elected presidente, so noble and so wise he could use the electoral will to influence the economy to create life… He had such a knowledge of the liberated side that he could even keep the country he cared about from dying. The liberated side of the State is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be "Un-economical". He became so noble… the only thing he was afraid of was the CIA, which eventually, of course, came. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic.


[14-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a shitty reason to push for particular policies.


[14-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not secret


[14-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's dressed up in fancy clothes ffs


[14-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like when pinkie puts on her disguise in Party of One


[14-Apr-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conservatives always eat it up


[14-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even with Trump dressing up racism way less than Republicans normally do


[14-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the conservatives just ignore the obvious racism when it suites them (which it often does, cause allowing in brown people to compete for jobs = some good lil' white boy don't get a job)


[14-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as the usual thing where Nationalism requires discrimination to further itself.


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
facebook doesn't lie


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like how we can now just say it's CULTURE and LANGUAGE and that discriminating on those is okay, cause it's not technically skin color.


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
you know what these people care about


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I especially like how when white people with different cultures and languages show up


[14-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and nobody cares


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but brown people with similar cultures and languages show up


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's a problem


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico has a much closer culture to the US' than France


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as about the same on language


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we allow French people in pretty much entirely


[14-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what if France had a severe disaster, eh?


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
tbh i don't think the french would want to come to the states


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would we turn away their boats full of impoverished people with no intention of ever learning English here to take our jobs?


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
they'd go to germany or something


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the US is a shithole compared to Germany


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But lets say all of Europe, like, sinks or something.


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do we let in the French and Germans?


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, cause as we all know


[14-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
that had nothing to do with anti-semitism


[14-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
nope nope nope, purely just cause the documents weren't in order, we sent those children to their deaths.


[14-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that makes it okay, guys.


[14-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You literally just used Jewish people being sent to their deaths to say something wasn't discriminatory...


[14-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
People really hated the Jews in the 30s


[14-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was nothing to do with country


[14-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
These days, we care less about the particular types of white people


[14-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a much broader racial brush


[14-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho many still don't like the Jews


[14-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should we also talk about how the Irish were treated?


[14-Apr-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Racism is always vague, it's meant to be circumstancial like that, due to its pejorative nature


[14-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And say that, since they were technically White by modern standards


[14-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't racist to stop the Irish


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they did, funny thing tho


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
which was his point


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
we tried to turn them away


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and refused them good jobs


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and services


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
often exploited their communities when they came anyways


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
treated them as a whole as second class citizens


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they spoke our language and had similar culture


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then, English immigrants...got none of thate


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were treated essentially as Amercians


[14-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
same language, same culture almost


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Huh I *WONDER* what the difference between the Irish and English was


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's say 1850


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When conservs say they empathise with the Irish victims of racism who allegedly "got better through individual action" but frequently ignore the Chinese...


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is the entire point


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We used to be racist against the Irish


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they were white


[14-Apr-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mind, the Chinese were straight up banned from migrating into the USA back in 1882, an act which was justified in a very familiar "Trumpian" manner


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The definition of who's okay has changed over time.


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nowadays, even Asians are honorary whites


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Racism is always circumstancial


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are given essentially a free immigration pass


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they don't speak our language and hav crazy different culture


[14-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's quite clearly about race.


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The choices of which countries to allow immigration from only make sense if race is a huge factor.


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
OOOOH


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you did not


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh man


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, model minorities


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They immigrate very well


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Genetic fallacy


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asians be upstanding citizens


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know...*why* they are?


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because we stereotype them as such.


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
We giv them advantages in how we treat them.


[14-Apr-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
We giv Mexicans disadvantages in how we treat them.


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then we say


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the Japanese etc. are good workers


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that being Japanese makes someone a better person


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"unlike all those FUKKIN' NIGGERS"


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As i say, racism is selective, circumstancial


[14-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or, for Mexicans, "wetbakks"


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does being Mexican matter again?


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe the white working class shouldn't be mad at the immigrants that do their jobs for less money but at the companies that hire immigrants at reduced wages which suppress their own paychecks


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Racism, like any conservative position, is circumstancial and holds no definite values at all. It is entirely subject to the whims of capital and geopolitics.


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Versus, like, Japanese?


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's not racism...then what's the difference?


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be racism.


[14-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Continue...


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the difference that MATTERS FOR HOW WE TREAT THEM


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue Get ICE of their backs so they can unionize and make it better for all of us. Join up hand in hand across all bounds for mutual improvement.


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, i'll warn that the concept of "race" is entirely artificial and circumstancial


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
why does the country of origin matter?


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
What makes Mexico worse?


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Than Japan?


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like any conservative position


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
We could get an international strike going.


[14-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Mexican and American working class solidarity


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo
Solidarity Forever (Pete Seeger)
This is a worker's anthem by Pete Seeger. Thank you for watching comrades!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pCnEAH5wCzo/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Race shouldn't matter...but it seems to be made to.


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If race didn't matter


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
we'd treat Mexican and Japanese immigrants the same.


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would we go off of nation?


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Go off of what


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does Japanese citizenship matter?


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I take a Mexican person


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and I change their citizenship to Japanese


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
should we treat them differently?


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as we've gone over


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexicans hav closer culture


[14-Apr-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Starscraper that doesn't mean no dialogue or understanding should be made


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are we treating them *worse*?


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Honahue#0656
As far as culture Mexico and America are a lot closer, both largely from European countries and Christian heritage. Chinese and Japanese though not so much


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why are we generalizing culture to a nation?


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should we treat a person raised remotely in Japanese culture


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but born in Mexico


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Within Mexico, there's multiple regional cultures


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
who speaks Japanese etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
the same as other Mexicans?


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we should generalize...


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
we should apply a stereotype of a nation's culture to everyone in it


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
why again


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
should we treat Mexicans worse because of this?


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
When their culture is much, much, more similar to ours.


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Apr-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What of other Hispanic peoples


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like Hondurans, Guatemalans, etc.?


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
How do you tell if a Hispanic person is illegal?


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but they never ask question the illegality, many laws are unjust


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Trump shuts aid to 3 Mexican countries*


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Honahue#0656
So?


[14-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you seriously saying


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Sbainish is a Romance language


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's a problem that we hav people of a different language in the country?


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But moreover


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Its roots are Latin


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
if we hav these language services in place


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Like Rome


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
why are we treating immigrants that benefit from them worse?


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
But why is it illegal?


[14-Apr-19 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, selective empathy based on legality?


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And are borders ethically correct?


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
M8, the issue they hav is that they're *different.*


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why they reduce legal immigration from Mexico


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
to create more illegal immigration


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
To say "no no, it's because they're illegal!"


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Honahue#0656
If you want to apply for refugee status you have to cross the border


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crossing an imaginary line in the sand doesn't make someone a horrible person.


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
legally


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the necessity defense allows you to break ANY LAW WHATSOEVER if


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
"My minority friend" isn't a valid argument. Because at some point any unknown Hispanic person can look so much like an illegal it's a jump people can and have made to think or say they are. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/04/born-philadelphia-us-citizen-says-he-was-held-deportation-jamaica-ices-request/?utm_term=.f57aa398fa01


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/in-america-naturalized-citizens-no-longer-have-an-assumption-of-permanence

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In America, Naturalized Citizens No Longer Have an Assumption of P...
A new task force is built on the premise that the United States is under attack by malevolent immigrants.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5b27d826efbafb29b9088136/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/Gessen-America-Naturalized-Citizens.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the damage done is less than the harm prevented


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/american-born-citizen-sues-sheriff-after-he-was-nearly-deported-n943486

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American-born citizen sues sheriff after he was nearly deported to...
Peter Sean Brown, who was born in Philadelphia, was detained by Florida authorities and flagged for deportation after a request from ICE, according to a lawsuit.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_49/2669441/181204-peter-sean-brown-detained-ice-cs-933a_2916b2f14ebbee8d3a3e76ce7563b906.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you are preventing great harm, with no reasonable alternative


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rich GOP voting assholes who say they're "only fine with legal mexicans" yet sometimes wish they could pay their workers less


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to the Necessity Defense


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Starscraper which schools?


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The quality of "illegal" isn't an apparent aspect. And combining that with "hispanic" recreate a form of racism that excludes familiar parties; friends.


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is completely legal to immigrate as a refugee


[14-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not illegals.


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a violation of the law to treat them as such.


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Also anyone that's morals come directly from the "law" is someone I wouldn't trust


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, border patrol doesn't care


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
about enforcing the law.


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which we then come to an evident contradiction in the discussion. That things are going only as far as "race" or "culture" but not neccesarily why anyone would want to move to begin with.


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cares about a line in the sand.


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a grand conspiracy


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's literally just Trump


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
who was voted in promising to hurt the brown people


[14-Apr-19 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmaoooooo


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, because I demanded people get human rights


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
totes my fault for assuming people had basic decency


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>liberal


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, lmao


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare I ask that we treat people the same regardless of skin color, language, culture, etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like capitalist dog


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare I say that All Men Are Created Equal.


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to be...


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
HISTORY AIN'T DEAD, FUKUYAMA


[14-Apr-19 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
BREAK THE PARADIGM


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is you who are just in denial, Star Pone


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not what he's doing


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's stopping legal immigration


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What of the ban on muslim immigrants tho


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
creating tons more illegal immigration


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
while trying to single people out on religion


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or tightening of restrictions on muslim immigration


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then saying NO NO IT BASED ON TERROR RISK


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx94EfA3ZUw

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Robin Hood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx94EfA3ZUw
A las barricadas in spanish and english
Performed by Dandelion junk queens
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vx94EfA3ZUw/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
while also saying Mexicans are rapists


[14-Apr-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Solely due to their place of origin and the god they pray to


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump clearly does not believe all men are created equal.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes that Mexicans are rapist scum.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes that Muslims should be bombed to death.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Bomb their families" etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep hopping things.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep hopping and denying and changing the argument.


[14-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
All to protect Trump from being revealed to be racist.


[14-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not an excuse


[14-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's buying it.


[14-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Your patience is the factor at play


[14-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you instead took your time to craft concise and calm arguments, it'd be better


[14-Apr-19 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Apr-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Star Pone also uses this tactic of "you're unfairly making <X> out to be evil" (even when they are demonstrably so)


[14-Apr-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and "you're reading too much into it"


[14-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Trump is saying is that brown people are the ones who come here illegally and commit crimes because they are inherently prone to being rapists etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's racist.


[14-Apr-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"you are reading too much into it"
>"Jesus, did you see the shit China is doing? Their 'people's republic' moniker doesn't hold water!"


[14-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Common conservative tactic


[14-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
you ignore the subtext


[14-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
you ignore all the implications


[14-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say that if the text itself doesn't say it, it's wrong.


[14-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not reasonable to interpret *anything* from his statements.


[14-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are reasonable interpretations.


[14-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Honahue#0656
It's called a dog whistle, like the number 14 being an illusion yo white supremacy


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Or 88


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
if a tree falls in the forest and you can't hear it then you're deaf


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's not the only time he's spoken on the matter.


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In that particular vid what he is arguing is that criminal immigrants should be deported and that we must tuffen enforcement.


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But here's the funny thing


[14-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
once in office


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he expanded an Obama era policy


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
that focused resources on immigrants who committed crimes once here


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump literally called Mexican immigrents rapists


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he changed it such that anyone who illegally immigrated was automatically considered a priority


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
on the logic that illegally immigrating made them a criminal


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in doing so


[14-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he actually spread resources much more broadly


[14-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
going after immigrants who had committed no crimes once here


[14-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He completely undid Obama's targeted enforcement


[14-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
which with the same resources, means more immigrants who committed crimes once here are allowed to continue to be here etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wasn't what he said in the video


[14-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was talking about how there were particular ones committing crimes


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how they should be deported


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
he didn't say to go after them in general.


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but that's what his policy was


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
his policy was to go after ALL illegals


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
which goes against deporting only the criminals among them


[14-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It *increases* the likelihood of particular ones committing crimes being able to stay here.


[14-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
His actual policy goes directly counter to the implications of what he said in that video.


[14-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes it clear what he said in that video wasn't the real goal.


[14-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they weren't ignored by the Obama administration


[14-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it deported SHITTONS of illegal immigrants who committed crimes once here.


[14-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it had the targeting policy of going after ones committing crimes, it was extremely effective at removing them.


[14-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making it so the illegals left were ones who weren't committing crimes.


[14-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is exactly in line with what Trump was saying.


[14-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he's an idiot.


[14-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama's policy was *quite clearly* working.


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of the most effective immigration policies ever, and a really good compromise between liberal and conservative enforcement ideals.


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically satisified both sides of the aisle while greatly reducing actual problems.


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't interested in reducing problems.


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wants to hurt brown people.


[14-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm inferencing the bloody obvious.


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who removes a solution to problem


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
if a tree falls in the forest and you can't hear it then you're deaf


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
after campaigning on solving the problem


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
isn't interested in actually solving the problem


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's interested in benefitting from the problem.


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're assuming Trump's honest.


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lies regularly.


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact.


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know "drain the swamp"?


[14-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He admitted in an interview he only said it cause the crowds liked it


[14-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not because he meant it.


[14-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally made a lie into a campaign slogan.


[14-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
"Funny how that term caught on, isn’t it? I tell everyone: I hated it! Somebody said, ‘Drain the swamp.’ I said, ‘Oh, that’s so hokey. That is so terrible.’ I said, ‘All right. I’ll try it.’ So like a month ago, I said, ‘Drain the swamp.’ The place went crazy. I said, ‘Whoa. Watch this.’ Then I said it again. Then I started saying it like I meant it, right? And then I said it, I started loving it."


[14-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
here is the exact quote


[14-Apr-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
from trump


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ugh


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/15/13966872/trump-lying-daily-show

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/15/13966872/trump-lying-daily-show
Donald Trump can be weirdly honest about his lying. The Daily Show...
Trump regularly admits to his own dishonesty.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/lOL5K1tG1LDoVoG3h7s-3bzzI8s=/10x0:959x534/1600x900/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52303893/Trump_Daily_Show_honesty.0.png


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His rhethoric is so stupid, how did he even captivate that many people


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
people are dumb


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and easily swayed


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
he clearly didn't mean it


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Trump on his promise to prosecute Hillary Clinton and "lock her up": "Forget it. That plays great before the election. Now we don’t care, right?"'


[14-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
he even went on record saying he didn't mean it


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it's another lie


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
trump does not say anything honestly except when it might benefit him


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone says he'll do something during campaigning


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and does the opposite


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
what does that tell you about what they say?


[14-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
To harp on "Drain the Swamp"


[14-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was clearly referring to special interests being tied to the White House


[14-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's White House has waaaaay more ties to special interests than most previous administrations


[14-Apr-19 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
c artoon villain would be preferable


[14-Apr-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
who's illegally immigrating the most to the US?


[14-Apr-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Honduras


[14-Apr-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
that makes it racially sensitive


[14-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte you're making a key mistake


[14-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives belief that a racially prejudiced *outcome* isn't racist.


[14-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe it's only racist if the *intent* is racist.


[14-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's about ignoring the actual results to conservatives.


[14-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And only looking at intent.


[14-Apr-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and then protecting intent no matter what when a conservative is under attakk)


[14-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then not understand results mattering.


[14-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's see what 538 has on its big summary article about parties and race/gender. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/people-are-changing-their-views-on-race-and-gender-issues-to-match-their-party/

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People Are Changing Their Views On Race And Gender Issues To Match...
Nearly two years after the 2016 election, the parties continue to fight about race and gender. In Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court confirmation process, Democrat…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TRUMP-RESENTMENT-16x9.jpg?w=1600


[14-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, those "damn raping niggers" again.


[14-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause clearly good ol' white boys aren't doin' much rapin'.


[14-Apr-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's an issue of not understanding what the factors are that lead to crime happening


[14-Apr-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So people just apply a simplistic tribalist notion of genetics


[14-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're literally painting it as that racism is a distraction from those RAPING MURDERING NONWHITES etc.


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point that dog whistle politics and ulterior motives don't exist?


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That conservatives really JUST want to stop people from breaking the law, guys!


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump tells people to break the law


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
to stop nonwhites from getting across the border


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
even legally


[14-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like


[14-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was saying to refuse asylum seekers at ports of entry


[14-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not illegal to seek asylum at a port of entry


[14-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it *is* illegal to physically prevent them from appyling.


[14-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a conspiracy


[14-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is what Trump actually said to do


[14-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/trump-family-separation-el-paso-kirstjen-nielsen/index.html

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Trump pushed to close El Paso border, told admin officials to resu...
President Donald Trump has been pushing to reinstate broader family separation policies and sought to close the US-Mexico border at El Paso, Texas, as his conflict with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen reached a boiling point.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190405163536-trump-immigration-roundtable-0405-super-tease.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If their skin was white, Trump wouldn't be doing anything.


[14-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd find a different bogeyman.


[14-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of the rather extremely racist history of the South, his primary voter region


[14-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And his collections of statements over time.


[14-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/michael-cohen-cited-multiple-racist-comments-trump/583807/

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Will Cohen’s Remarks on Trump’s Racism Change Anything?
The president has somehow proved resilient to accusations that he is a racist.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/02/AP_19058670140399/facebook.jpg?1551373565


[14-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Not only did Cohen outline seriously damaging tidbits pertinent to the Russia investigation, but he labeled Trump a “racist, a conman, and a cheat.” According to Cohen, the president made riffs on his infamous “shithole countries” remark, employed bigoted language about black people living in Chicago, and said that black voters were “too stupid” to vote for him.'


[14-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suppose we should just ignore a shitton of indirect evidence.


[14-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you demand direct quotes.


[14-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I really don't think you would if similar allegations were against Obama.


[14-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not circular, it comes from a wealth of evidence.


[14-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally ran a business that had to settle over forcing blakk people to leave their apartments.


[14-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A directive which had come from the top.


[14-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Michael Cohen isn't a liberal.


[14-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, how do you explain this one? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/03/donald-trump-judge-curiel-hillary-clinton/85363920/

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Trump on Judge Curiel: He's 'very pro-Mexico'
Donald Trump isn’t backing down on his criticism of the judge involved in his Trump University court case despite pleas from leaders in his own party.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/a5076e7a43a0cec6129489319d0fb728e2cd1814/c=0-264-5184-3193/local/-/media/2016/06/03/USATODAY/USATODAY/636005703666870118-AP-TRUMP-LUKEWARM-ENDORSEMENTS-82349462.JPG?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[14-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

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‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and...
As Mr. Trump assumed an increasing role in his father’s business, the company’s practice of turning away potential black tenants was painstakingly documented.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/27/us/28trumphousing1/28trumphousing1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[14-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
'She filled out what the rental agent remembers as a “beautiful application.” She did not even want to look at the unit.

There was just one hitch: Maxine Brown was black.

Stanley Leibowitz, the rental agent, talked to his boss, Fred C. Trump.

“I asked him what to do and he says, ‘Take the application and put it in a drawer and leave it there,’” Mr. Leibowitz, now 88, recalled in an interview.'


[14-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure everyone here watched that video when it first came out


[14-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The complaints of discrimination were not limited to New York.

In 1969, a young black couple, Haywood and Rennell Cash, sued after being denied a home in Cincinnati at one of the first projects in which Donald Trump, fresh out of college, played an active role.

Mr. Cash was repeatedly rejected by the Trumps’ rental agent, according to court records and notes kept by Housing Opportunities Made Equal of Cincinnati, which sent in white testers posing as a young couple while Mr. Cash waited in the car.'


[14-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
'After the agent, Irving Wolper, offered the testers an apartment, they brought in Mr. Cash. Mr. Wolper grew furious, shoving them out of the office and calling the young female tester, Maggie Durham, a “nigger-lover,” according to court records.'


[14-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't watch said video.


[14-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let me guess


[14-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
SPITE ZE LIBS?


[14-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
no


[14-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
it has to do with him mocking people for thinking that trump had no chance


[14-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it's the other one


[14-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
not in a way that supports trump


[14-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
the old LIBERAL MEDIA BUBBLE YOU FOOLS


[14-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
(meanwhile, 538 actually gave Trump a 30% win chance, but nobody fukking credits them because they want to rub it in NYT/WaPo's faces)


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
People need to not take shit for granted


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump acted like a saturday morning cartoon villain during the campaign


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they thought HE CAN'T BE SERIOUS HE CAN'T WIN


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well turns out


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's exactly what the South actually wants.


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
I'm rewatching it, he's specifically mocking people for thinking that hillary could beat trump


[14-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want someone who will violate Human Rights openly on purpose.


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
he's a satirist btw


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary could've easily beaten Trump without the electoral college


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
California's population would've sailed her thru


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
all of his videos are presented as off-the-record "lost tapes"


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the Electoral College is a complex beast


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
where the votes are matters.


[14-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Polls don't generally care about that.


[14-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
I still think that a good compromise between getting rid of the electoral college completely and keeping it in its current form is to make it so that electoral votes are split evenly based on percentage of voters


[14-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
so if california votes 80% democrat 20% republican, 80% of the electoral votes go to the democrat, and 20% go to the republican


[14-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the same as getting rid of it in practice.


[14-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of it was so states could send rerpresentatives to say THIS GUY WON HERE, WE WANT HIM


[14-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making an even split completely removes that point.


[14-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
except there's also a lot of blue city strongholds in very red states


[14-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
I was just using california as the most extreme example


[14-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump didn't win any new voters though he basically got the same voters that RMoney got Hillary was just so unlikeable not enough people went out to vote for her


[14-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary won the popular vote


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
no electoral college = Hillary win


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes I know


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tipping a few states by a percent also would mean a Hillary win


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a chaotic, unstable system


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump winning was mostly blind lukk.


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Bernie would've breezed thru it but


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary is the kind of candidate parties want


[14-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, in primaries


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the most conservative candidate usually wins.


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people voted Hillary in droves.


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
My point was that Trump didn't swing anyone he got the same people that would've voted for anyone with an R next to their name


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they wanted progress, but not too much of it you young whippersnappers.


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eh, he swung a few voters who wanted a NONPOLITICIAN


[14-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(who were completely fukking delusional)


[14-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe a few but not enmass like people say he did


[14-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real big story was VOTERS SWITCH FROM OBAMA TO TRUMP


[14-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which it turned out after some research was really voters deciding that actually, blakk people are bad, let's not vote Hillary she'll let blakk people out of jail.


[14-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
I just remember Tara Strong being hilariously angry because Jill Stien got enough votes in a few states to have swung things


[14-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter under the Electoral College.


[14-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
That's what I mean


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
The margin was that if Hillary got Jill Stiens vote the Electoral College would have gone to her


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh.


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, well, plurality voting sukks ass.


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Seriously in a lot of places it was only a few thousand votes off


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho much of the Stein vote would've gone to Trump.


[14-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno Stein is Green party


[14-Apr-19 03:10 AM] ononim#8141
>359+ new messages


[14-Apr-19 03:10 AM] ononim#8141
will not even pretend to even think about reading that


[14-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the votes for her was because she was an outsider etc.


[14-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't miss much.


[14-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mainly just Star saying Trump isn't racist at all


[14-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that immigration policy is solely about preventing crime by making something a crime so we can catch people for committing that crime.


[14-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that race got nothin' to do with it at all nope nope.


[14-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe someone isn't racist but if they do a bunch of shit that disproportionately affects people of a certain race then the difference is merely academic


[14-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives care about academic differences, that's the unfortunate thing.


[14-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, a policy that massively hurts only blakk people is fine as long as it was drafted in a way that pretended race doesn't exist.


[14-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a policy suppressing blakk votes on purpose is just trying to undo those dirty liberals helping blakk people vote TWICE guys.


[14-Apr-19 03:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1116364494257704961?s=21

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No law that kicks 180 million Americans off their plans is acceptable. While Democrats abandon Obamacare for more socialism, President Trump is working on real solutions to provide Americans with the options, affordability, and quality care they deserve.

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[14-Apr-19 04:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[14-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-house-democrat-sets-new-deadline-for-release-of-trumps-tax-returns-today-2019-04-13/

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Top House Democrat sets new deadline for release of Trump's tax re...
Richard Neal set a new deadline for the IRS to furnish the committee with the president's tax returns: 5 p.m. on April 23
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[14-Apr-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NoContextBoomer/status/1117181709945069569

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[14-Apr-19 04:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That's likely true. Just not in the sense of them being the same person.


[14-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/health/intersex-child-parenting-eprise/index.html

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Raising an intersex child: 'This is your body. ... There's nothing...
When Stephani Lohman got her first look at her newborn in the delivery room, she playfully hit her husband, Eric, on the arm. She made a flustered comment about how ultrasounds could get the sex of the child wrong.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190410160437-01-rosie-lohman-family-photos-super-tease.jpg


[14-Apr-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
that's a lot of words when a simple "no u" would've sufficed


[14-Apr-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
but I didn't say you didn't say anything, you just said it in a much more complicated way than was necessary


[14-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
besides, it isn't even "my argument"


[14-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not commenting on your argument with @Honahue and @Nebbie


[14-Apr-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
I'm saying your multiple paragraphs can literally be condensed down to two words


[14-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
because you did effectively say "no u" in so many more words than was necessary, that isn't a dismissal either


[14-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
that's just a statement


[14-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
why do you feel so attacked all the time?


[14-Apr-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
you're responding to me like I'm coming at you with a knife or something lol


[14-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I hate is


[14-Apr-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I don't call something racist


[14-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
then conservatives will generally say there's no reason to oppose the policy


[14-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when it's clearly bad in multiple ways


[14-Apr-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
any economic impacts? Brushed aside, it must be done because *rolls die*...law must be obeyed.


[14-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually makes the law less likely to be obeyed? Bla bla bla ghetto people need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps or something, it's their fault.


[14-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then if I do talk about the obvious intent being to disadvantage a particular race


[14-Apr-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives instead say that I'm calling them Hitler and that that makes them FEEL bad so it can't be true and then go about denying it.


[14-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a strategy meant to push literally any agenda the right has


[14-Apr-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's artificial and inconsistent, like a lot of conservative ideas in practice.


[14-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
"particular laws"


[14-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because I guess Trump's EOs don't count


[14-Apr-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho they're written in a way not compatible with what congress asks for quite often


[14-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all his EOs on immigration? Totes just meant to stop lawbreakers, guys.


[14-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing bad going on here behind them.
You're yet again missing the point because of your conservative mindset.


[14-Apr-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like you hav some kind of binary switch where either effects being racist don't count, and so nobody's racist cause we can't read minds to be 100% certain


[14-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
or if effects do count, then ANYTHING that doesn't end up with superequality is obviously racist.


[14-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, let's use a little test case.


[14-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
School segregation, is that racist?


[14-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[14-Apr-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the old stuff, 1950s


[14-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Separate but equal.


[14-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Separate but equal is still equal, right?


[14-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh uh uh, hold on now


[14-Apr-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not *discriminatory* if things are equal


[14-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody's being disadvantaged


[14-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
right?


[14-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if it's put into practice correctly, it's not a problem, right?


[14-Apr-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, say there are actually as many opportunities for the separated races?


[14-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we giv everyone equal education, equal services, equal *opportunity*, nobody's at a disadvantage, correct?


[14-Apr-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now that's a big if, but let's assume it's true and argue from there


[14-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wrong.


[14-Apr-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, there's a hitch in things


[14-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you segregate people like that, even if you giv them equal everything, you're separating people into the "normal" and the "other"


[14-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people in the "normal" feel relieved, believe themselves to be good, but the people in the "other" feel the opposite.


[14-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so


[14-Apr-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
when segregation was in place


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakk students at equal schools to whites did worse on tests


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
this is why public restrooms were segregated btw


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when they had similar incomes


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
the same exact logic of "separate but equal"


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when the areas were similar


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything the same...but they were in a school meant for the "other"


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This caused them to perform worse on tests, to get worse jobs, etc.


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you make people feel singled out or left out


[14-Apr-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they do worse


[14-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
*That* is why SCOTUS ended school segregation


[14-Apr-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
not because it discriminates on the basis of race, no, as long as it was implemented as actually "but equal", that would've been fine.


[14-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the trouble is that the racist intent behind it is made obvious to the ones under it, even if not translated into actually giving someone blakk something worse.


[14-Apr-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just making them know they *shouldn't be allowed to be with the whites* was a way to cause racial disparities.


[14-Apr-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, do you agree with SCOTUS' ruling on the matter?


[14-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/world/europe/ecuador-assange-wikileaks.html

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By NICHOLAS CASEY and JO BECKER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/world/europe/ecuador-assange-wikileaks.html
As Ecuador Harbored Assange, It Was Subjected to Threats and Leaks
The Ecuadorean Embassy in London protected the WikiLeaks founder from prosecution for years, but its tolerance wore thin.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/12/world/12ecuador/12ecuador-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[14-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
>The secrets came directly from the phones of President Lenín Moreno of Ecuador: intimate pictures of him and his family on vacation, text messages from his wife, even a photograph of the president himself in a posh bedroom, eating a lobster in bed.


[14-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
>The material, published last month on an anonymous website, was particularly embarrassing because Mr. Moreno was in a bruising national fight over his austerity measures. But rather than mount a defense, the president played the victim: He blamed WikiLeaks, whose founder, Julian Assange, had spent the last seven years holed up in the country’s London embassy.


[14-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently assange was used as a scapegoat for "embarrassing photos" of the ecuadorean president released anonymously


[14-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
the EU technically hasn't had borders since 1993 and each individual member state still exists


[14-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
not only do they retain their national identities, their cultural identities have been amplified


[14-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't actually need that much border control...


[14-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're creating ridiculous premises to create strawmen of things that would be viewed as racist


[14-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
racial effects should be a *factor* in whether a law is good or bad


[14-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but shouldn't be the *only* factor


[14-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[14-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
a nation doesn't need to *control* its borders to exist


[14-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and may not even need them to exist to begin with, but they are useful for marking jurisdiction


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
you know, I haven't seen anyone actually explicitly argue for a regulated open border


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could giv citizenship automatically temporarily while anyone livs here


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's always been "complete open borders"


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, if you walk in, congrats, temporary citizen


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then we could enforce minimum wage laws off of that.


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you can't just not pay people cause they weren't born/naturalized etc.


[14-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
we need a system better than social security for paying taxes


[14-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
something that can just be handed out like candy


[14-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
no it isn't


[14-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
the fact there's so much outcry is proof that it isn't a beginning


[14-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The school is being extremely resistant against the influence of the Muslim parents


[14-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it only withdrew the lessons temoporarily after a massive protest


[14-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't the start of some giant shift


[14-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like they're gonna fukking shoot the parents


[14-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
first of all, it was already planned that the LGBT thing would only last for the first semester


[14-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the parents hav the right to withdraw students


[14-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what do you expect the school to do?


[14-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The school told them off and only did anything after many parents already pulled students out.


[14-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US has had amazing success dealing with different beliefs and culture in general.


[14-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest problems come when you cram people in one area out of racism


[14-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
rather than spreading them out


[14-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you force everyone into their own little box, they start uniting etc.


[14-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
like an echo chamber.


[14-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
also the "sharia zone" thing is more of a strange side effect of some weird english policy of letting local communities form their own, locally enforceable court systems, but it also explicitly states that federal law is not superceded by these local court systems


[14-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
so if anyone contested the ruling of one of those courts, it would go to the federal court system


[14-Apr-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
I think it was meant to be a way of reducing pressure on the federal court system while also allowing communities to sort of govern themselves without federal input


[14-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
except, you know, the nation's laws still supercede the locally enforced laws


[14-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
which is the whole point of contention


[14-Apr-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
the claim is that they're forming a country within a country to undermine it from within, but there's no legitimacy outside of those communities


[14-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
any ruling has no legal basis, and they can't do much other than fines


[14-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
no, they can't execute people either


[14-Apr-19 09:25 AM] Honahue#0656
You do know that most of Latin America is Catholic? Which is the largest Christian denomination in the US so really importing a bunch wouldn't be changing American culture


[14-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
what cartoonist?


[14-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Honahue#0656
French guy


[14-Apr-19 09:26 AM] Honahue#0656
Drew Mohammed with a bomb for a turban


[14-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Islam doesn't show Mohammed or any other prophets out of respect


[14-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
was this in england?


[14-Apr-19 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
So Moses or Jesus either


[14-Apr-19 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that has nothing to do with what we were talking about


[14-Apr-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
a guy riding his bike was killed by a terrorist


[14-Apr-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
also, he was killed in amsterdam, not england


[14-Apr-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
so it's even less connected to what was being discussed than before because it wasn't a "sharia zone court" that ordered someone to death


[14-Apr-19 09:32 AM] Honahue#0656
We have Christian terrorist in the US too, one shot up a Sikh temple cause brown and turbans must mean Muslims amirite?


[14-Apr-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, like I said earlier, those local courts are only able to impose small fines and I think jail people up to a week, anything more major has to be brought up with a state court


[14-Apr-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Arbitration_Tribunal

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Arbitration_Tribunal
Muslim Arbitration Tribunal
The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal is a form of alternative dispute resolution which operates under the Arbitration Act 1996 which is available in England. It is one of a range of services (Islamic Sharia Council is another) for Muslims who wish to resolve disputes without recou...


[14-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
oh wow, it has even less power than I originally thought, though its rulings can be enforced by county or state courts


[14-Apr-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
but it has no power over criminal matters


[14-Apr-19 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
I live in Michigan which has one of the largest Muslim populations in the US and they behave better than a lot of Christians here


[14-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
uhh, what?


[14-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
>they were able to assassinate someone in Amstradam


[14-Apr-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
what does this have to do with the tribunals at all?


[14-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
the guy who killed the film director was a dual national of morocco and the netherlands


[14-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, honestly


[14-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
he had absolutely nothing to do with the tribunals in england


[14-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Honahue#0656
But the film maker wasn't killed because of community Sharia laws


[14-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to realize you're arguing against extreme generalization


[14-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
wherein any act of violence anywhere in the western world from muslims


[14-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
means countries with muslims all hav tons of areas where violence is used in specific ways not necessarily associated with that act of violence.


[14-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically if a muslim farts in France


[14-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means that everywhere with muslims in Germany is a no-smell zone


[14-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the logic this is operating under.


[14-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Honahue#0656
He was killed by a Muslim extemist but I think it's very safe to say Christian extemists exist too so blaming an event on all isn't right


[14-Apr-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guys guys


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know all those far right shooters


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
like in NZ


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and America


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism is bad


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
places full of white people who are into mems


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
are no go zones


[14-Apr-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you'll get shot just for being muslim


[14-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys someone got on camera that someone punched them when they were being obnoxious one time wandering into a neighborhood looking for a fight.


[14-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
being verbally harassed, despite being wrong, is a completely different level from being beheaded in the streets


[14-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
There was a rash of killings shortly after 9/11 of Muslims too


[14-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means muslims are out to get any good lil' white boy that wanders into their turf.


[14-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we...just tossing out hypotheticals to fearmonger off of, or what?


[14-Apr-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does ISIS nuking us hav to do with any of this?


[14-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was talking about actual violence that actually happened


[14-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wasn't talking in the hypothetical.


[14-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you putting out fearmongering hypotheticals?


[14-Apr-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument isn't about who can build a bigger tower of fear.


[14-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the purpose of that image?


[14-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
How does that image relate to that in *any* way?


[14-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what does the image hav to do with it?


[14-Apr-19 09:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Okay I think what you just said was "it's okay some.Muslims died people were in shock from 9/11"


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's what he said too


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Honahue#0656
No


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said that the bakklash shouldn't matter


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's okay if some people commit murder


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I said that Muslims shouldn't be killed


[14-Apr-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as it's vaguely in retaliation to a bigger crime done by "the other side"


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're strawmanning me now.


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just indicated that we shouldn't care about killings of muslims after 9/11


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
correct?


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Star PoneToday at 3:47 AM
I'm saying the backlash isn't as important when it constitutes 1/100th of the crime.


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY DOES THAT MATTER?


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do we need to RANK the importance here?


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What purpose are you putting it out for?


[14-Apr-19 09:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Uh no it matters a lot to the dead person and their community


[14-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said that people retaliated and killed people, immorally


[14-Apr-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are then trying to say we should *not care about it* because it's *less important* than 9/11


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why then did you say it was less important?


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does the relative importance matter here?


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the *purpose*?


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fukking it


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're gone.


[14-Apr-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh gdi Discord


[14-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I forgot to unchekk the thing and it killed off his last day of posts.


[14-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Honahue...thanks, honestly


[14-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was gonna put up with that guy for a lot longer probably but dayumn


[14-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying that it's okay muslims were killed after 9/11


[14-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a new one.


[14-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then refusing to accept the implications of his words.


[14-Apr-19 09:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[14-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I really want to know what was misconstrued though cause that was weird


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
His argument was


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Or just bullshit


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
His specific words were that the retaliation is 1/100th the crime


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus is not *as* important


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The implicit argument is that we shouldn't care about the killed Muslims.


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i couldnt find another way to read that


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because 9/11 was way more important.


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He then said that's misconstruing it.


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[14-Apr-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way he's been doing things is


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he creates his own victim card.


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I wanted to point out that Muslims also get harrassed too but whatever


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He argues in bad faith in order to make an obviously racist etc. argument, but never EXPLICITLY STATING the racist premise


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then when you connect the dots


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he tells you you connected the dots wrong


[14-Apr-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you're a liberal seeing patterns that aren't there.


[14-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Exhibit A is Ilhan Omah


[14-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he'll do the same with stand-ins for his own argument, like Trump


[14-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll put forward some video of Trump bullshitting and playing off racism


[14-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
then say that Trump didn't explicitly say to discriminate on the basis of race


[14-Apr-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
ergo, Trump's not racist, you're just making him out to be a cartoon villain.


[14-Apr-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's the victim, you liberals are in an echo chamber, etc. etc.


[14-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
But that's what you do, you can't go out and say fuck all ni🅱:b:ers so you just do things that will mostly hurt blacks


[14-Apr-19 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
And word it nonracially


[14-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/latino/438792-trump-demands-that-undocumented-immigrants-be-taken-to-sanctuary-cities

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https://thehill.com/latino/438792-trump-demands-that-undocumented-immigrants-be-taken-to-sanctuary-cities
Trump says he has legal right to send undocumented immigrants to s...
President Trump tweeted on Saturday night that his administration has the legal right to send undocumented immigrants to sanctuary cities and demanded it happen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_4.jpg


[14-Apr-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
everybody: uhh this is probably illegal and has multiple precedents of being rejected
trump: IT'S LEGAL BECAUSE I SAY SO


[14-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Honahue#0656
He's becoming Palpatine


[14-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I am the Senate


[14-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's McConnell


[14-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
nah, mcconnell is like senator palpatine


[14-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
while trump is like supreme chancellor palpatine


[14-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dammit these metaphors would work better if Star Wars had identifiable Senate characters


[14-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump is like senator Jar Jar


[14-Apr-19 10:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Hated by everyone and dumb


[14-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jar Jar: Wesa going to shut down da government!


[14-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Palpatine, as senator below Jar Jar, shokked: WE WHAT? UH...YES UH...we will shut down the Republic...so that it may grow stronger uh...


[14-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Honahue#0656
~~though Jar Jar meant well but was very stupid~~


[14-Apr-19 10:39 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump is dumb and also malicious


[14-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/438793-officer-wont-get-charged-after-mistakenly-using-gun-instead-of-taser

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/438793-officer-wont-get-charged-after-mistakenly-using-gun-instead-of-taser
Officer won't get charged after mistakenly using gun instead of ta...
A police officer in Pennsylvania who shot and critically wounded an unarmed inmate he allegedly believed had drawn his Taser at the time instead of a gun will not face charges, the Bucks County district attorney's office has said.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pennsylvania_cop_taser_gun.jpg


[14-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is what Jar Jar and Palpatine could've combined into.


[14-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
>A police officer in Pennsylvania who shot and critically wounded an unarmed inmate he allegedly believed had drawn his Taser at the time instead of a gun will not face charges, the Bucks County district attorney's office has said.


[14-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
>According to findings released by the office on Friday, District Attorney Matthew D. Weintraub has determined that the officer who shot the inmate, Brian Riling, was “neither justified, nor criminal, but was excused” in the March incident.


[14-Apr-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
not even a slap on the wrist lmao


[14-Apr-19 10:41 AM] Crow#5457
>“Investigation of the incident further revealed the officer wore his Taser on his right side, in front of his firearm, in violation of police department policies. Policy dictates officers should wear their Tasers on their non-dominant side, in what is known as a cross-draw position,” the office continued.


[14-Apr-19 10:41 AM] Honahue#0656
It was just a whoopsie


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point I'm pretty much numb to it.


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Crow#5457
I'd create a singularity and destroy the planet if I facepalmed any harder


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's nothing new to say.


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Crow#5457
he literally violated every possible regulation that could ever exist


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Crow#5457
and didn't even get a wrist slap


[14-Apr-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor training, an environment of fear, no accountability.


[14-Apr-19 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
@Mikey, star pone linked this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

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President Trump: How & Why...
Pie thinks he knows who is to blame for the rise of Trump...and you're not going to like it! To use this video in a commercial player or in broadcasts, pleas...
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[14-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[14-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't see the issue here....


[14-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was like, 10 hours ago.


[14-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Mikey#7286
sooooo


[14-Apr-19 10:47 AM] Mikey#7286
what's the issue?


[14-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one that got him banned was 9/11-baiting.


[14-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Mikey#7286
i've seen that video before and I literally don't see what's wrong with it, it's on point tbh


[14-Apr-19 10:48 AM] Crow#5457
I was just linking context for the "scathingly sarcastic satirist" line


[14-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, multiple people pointed out the inconsistencies months before the 2016 election, mainly leftist and socialist groups


[14-Apr-19 10:49 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't just jonathan pie stating it after the fact in a satire skit


[14-Apr-19 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
the serious groups, not the feminazi SJWs, that group was blindsided


[14-Apr-19 11:54 AM] Yuri#4154

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[14-Apr-19 11:55 AM] Yuri#4154
What the fuck, America?


[14-Apr-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the american job market


[14-Apr-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it was legal, walmart would do this too


[14-Apr-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ab9714a2642648dca5c9d777c7308ae5

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Biden to campaign as extension of Obama's political movement
BLUFFTON, S.C. (AP) — Joe Biden is finalizing the framework for a White House campaign that would cast him as an extension of Barack Obama's presidency and political movement. He's betting that...
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[14-Apr-19 03:31 PM] Litrojia#0612
I mean, I don't think he has any other choice but to emphasize the Obama years


[14-Apr-19 03:33 PM] Litrojia#0612
That's his most defining characteristic. He'd get torn apart if he focused a campaign on progressivism or identity politics.


[14-Apr-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/cnh0Z51H87s

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[14-Apr-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can confirm, unfortunatley for me i was still legally inexperienced at the time so there's nothing i can do now


[14-Apr-19 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Apr-19 06:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[14-Apr-19 06:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/G9FggJE1HjY "The British are never foreigners wherever they go" ***Colonialism intensifies***

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How do the largest community of British migrants living in Spain feel about Brexit? Subscribe to The Guardian ► http://is.gd/subscribeguardian When article 5...
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[14-Apr-19 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Active shooter drills are scaring kids. Some schools are taking a new approach. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/active-shooter-drills-are-scaring-kids-may-not-protect-them-n992941

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Active shooter drills are scaring kids and may not protect them. S...
From calling them "buddy room drills" to making school psychologists available during the exercises, schools are trying to protect students — physically and mentally.
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[14-Apr-19 06:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Gun control case study: A mass shooting, major reforms, then a political backlash https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/gun-control-case-study-mass-shooting-major-reforms-then-political-n991096

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Gun control case study: A mass shooting, major reforms, then a pol...
The dramatic saga of what happened in Colorado when 2020 contender John Hickenlooper was governor holds lessons for Dems seeking the White House and the nation.
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[14-Apr-19 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
America~


[14-Apr-19 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
_America~_


[14-Apr-19 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
MERICA, FUCK YEAH


[14-Apr-19 06:35 PM] Honahue#0656
JFC giving kids PTSD at 4


[14-Apr-19 06:37 PM] DevField#5162
**COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY YEAH**


[14-Apr-19 06:40 PM] Honahue#0656
The USA currently has the most powerful military in the world but it's going to be hilarious in some years when kids have no desire to join cause of these active shooter drills


[14-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody wants to join anyway


[14-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
military is a fuck


[14-Apr-19 06:47 PM] DevField#5162
Rip pizza


[14-Apr-19 06:47 PM] DevField#5162
:twidab:


[14-Apr-19 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
pizza is kill


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] DevField#5162
Good


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] DevField#5162
:twidab: :pinwheel: :twidab:


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] DevField#5162
Nobody liked pizza anyway


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] DevField#5162
That's why I'm getting a japanese instead


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] DevField#5162
:GoldNUT:


[14-Apr-19 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
japanut

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[14-Apr-19 06:54 PM] DevField#5162
Yyyup


[14-Apr-19 06:54 PM] DevField#5162
My friends want to go to Japan next year and I might go with them, should adjust my palate. :twismug:


[14-Apr-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Seafood


[14-Apr-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
You know what they say about things that smell like fish


[14-Apr-19 06:56 PM] DevField#5162
Hm?


[14-Apr-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
ah poor dev


[14-Apr-19 06:57 PM] DevField#5162
:twicrazy:


[14-Apr-19 06:57 PM] DevField#5162
I'm also vegetarian


[14-Apr-19 06:57 PM] DevField#5162
Tofu it is


[14-Apr-19 06:57 PM] DevField#5162
:twidab:


[14-Apr-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Most vegetarians in the states eat fish


[14-Apr-19 06:58 PM] DevField#5162
:faceclaw:


[14-Apr-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that makes no sense


[14-Apr-19 06:59 PM] DevField#5162
'It's aight fam, they're just fish'


[14-Apr-19 06:59 PM] DevField#5162
:faceclaw: :faceclaw:


[14-Apr-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont care how biologically different fish are from cows, they are still meat


[14-Apr-19 06:59 PM] DevField#5162
I thought that was common sense


[14-Apr-19 07:00 PM] DevField#5162
Apparently not


[14-Apr-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet that;s the arguement people have given me when i ask about religious versions of this


[14-Apr-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the religious feasts where they arent allowed to serve meat but still serve fish anyway because it somehow doesnt qualify as meat


[14-Apr-19 07:01 PM] DevField#5162
Really stupid


[14-Apr-19 07:01 PM] DevField#5162
I understand the importance of getting protein in meals


[14-Apr-19 07:01 PM] DevField#5162
But like


[14-Apr-19 07:01 PM] DevField#5162
there are alternatives


[14-Apr-19 07:01 PM] DevField#5162
Perhaps not as effective ones, but alternatives nonetheless


[14-Apr-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Apr-19 07:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That statement makes no sense


[14-Apr-19 07:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Eating meat and being vegan are quite literally mutually exclusive


[14-Apr-19 07:08 PM] DevField#5162
This is literally the embodiment of looking for attention


[14-Apr-19 07:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Nobody:
Kelsey Fiona: *iM veGaN bUt iM NOt*

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[14-Apr-19 07:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egBsTP0A-dY

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My Own BS
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Little Britain Daffyd - reminds me when I was the only gay in scho...
This reminds me when I was in school and then came my best friend. I was then not the only gay in school...
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[14-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reading back


[14-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans like to say that calling them racist does nothing but they still get upset by it


[14-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They get upset by it because they know it doesn't mesh well with American patriotism


[14-Apr-19 07:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean if I were to call someone a "bloody bellend twat" it probably wouldn't do much but piss em off


[14-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There is no argument to be made that people should be treated differently because of race

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[14-Apr-19 07:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah duh you think we would have figured that out by now


[14-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People point to statistics and shit


[14-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like what do they fucking want


[14-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I ask people what they _want_ from their beliefs


[14-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't give a shit _why_ they believe what they do


[14-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What they want matters more


[14-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people just keep their opinions and never think about what they really want from them


[14-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To the point where if you ask them they get mad


[14-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For example, racists who think X group is inferior


[14-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I ask them their solution


[14-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most really don't know, which means it isn't about a solution at all


[14-Apr-19 07:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's just about making themselves feel better lol


[14-Apr-19 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[14-Apr-19 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
yep


[14-Apr-19 07:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thinking is hard


[14-Apr-19 07:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
And you might end up realizing the contradictions in the present world order.


[14-Apr-19 07:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
So get as far as blaming The Other for everything and stop there, and not why The Other might be desirable to the current order, and how The Other is as much effected by it as you are.


[14-Apr-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
And now some four screenshots about Vine and how it died.

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[14-Apr-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Apr-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Apr-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Apr-19 08:02 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

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Yuri Bezmenov: Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Weste...
Yuri Bezmenov (alias Tomas Schuman), a Soviet KGB defector, explains in detail his scheme for the KGB process of subversion and takeover of target societies ...
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[14-Apr-19 08:05 PM] Honahue#0656
I wonder if something similar will happen to TikTok


[14-Apr-19 08:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
As long as the people that run this shit figure it's cheaper and more advantageous to quit, probably.


[14-Apr-19 08:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
We may need a democratic platform built for, designed by, and owned by the creators themselves.


[14-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Honahue#0656
MeansTV keeps popping up in my radar it's like a coop Netflix I think


[14-Apr-19 08:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
🤔


[14-Apr-19 08:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
May have to look into that.


[14-Apr-19 08:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
But now I'm browsing my radical FB groups I'm in, I'mma post some more shit from there. National debt metrics:

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[14-Apr-19 08:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
The caveat being: how interesting that the social-democratic countries have the lowest levels of debt despite wide-spread social spending.


[14-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Honahue#0656
Because it's not debt it's investment, putting money into your own population has an ROI that throwing money into a bloated military doesn't


[14-Apr-19 08:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
DESTROY ALL THE CAPITAL


[14-Apr-19 08:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
WITH BOMBS


[14-Apr-19 08:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
OURS AND THEIRS


[14-Apr-19 08:13 PM] Honahue#0656
It's like that thing about an exec worried about spending money on employee training cause they might leave with all that investment to the competition but overlooks the idea of a bunch of shitty trained people staying in the company


[14-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Honahue#0656
The difference is that a few companies see loads of ROI from military spending while the social programs spread it around so no one lobby group has an interest in fighting for it


[14-Apr-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ipsc3z7xo8s21.jpg

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[14-Apr-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm upset


[14-Apr-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what?


[14-Apr-19 10:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Insulin price. better not touch sugar just in case.


[14-Apr-19 10:03 PM] Honahue#0656
I have diabetic friends too and it's a huge problem for them


[14-Apr-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Insulin costs significantly less to make than it did in 1997


[14-Apr-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
The only reason corporations can get away with this is because nobody is stopping them


[14-Apr-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
And you can't _not_ buy insulin


[14-Apr-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Same with epinephrine pens


[14-Apr-19 10:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Captive customer base you can charge what you want and your customers have no choice to go anywhere else.

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[14-Apr-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a pancake house but the customers are chained to the tables.


[14-Apr-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
"Mind the GOP" https://i.imgur.com/GnUULdQ.jpg

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[14-Apr-19 10:28 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
At least I'm not like that.


[14-Apr-19 10:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Statements like that urge me to ask if you, as an elector, have supported people like that either


[14-Apr-19 10:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I don't know your political affiliation, but it's not immediately clear from what you said where you actually stand


[14-Apr-19 10:32 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm mostly Republican. But I'm not heartless.


[14-Apr-19 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, that didn't answer my question either


[14-Apr-19 10:33 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I've not supported anyone like that intentionally.


[14-Apr-19 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There we go


[14-Apr-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
@TheMultiBrony21 What are your stances on the key issues? (Healthcare, minimum wage, antitrust law, environmental regulations, tariffs)


[14-Apr-19 10:39 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Hmmm....


[14-Apr-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
(this is dodging issues of race or social issues, as I think that discussion would be very short)


[14-Apr-19 10:39 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That is a tough question... primarily because I'm not too familiar with antitrust law and tariffs.


[14-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think I ever laid out my stances on those things


[14-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Start with the ones you are familiar with.


[14-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Healthcare I see as a right


[14-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Minimum wage should scale based on the area


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Companies with monopolies should be broken up


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Companies that pollute should have to pay for cleanup


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Healthcare really needs to be improved to cover everyone and every medical/health related issues.

Minimum wages should be more than just a few cents.

And Environmental issues really need to be solved. Like use alternative fuel sources.


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tariffs are restrictive of trade and should be minimal or non existent


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm...that's saying very little, TMB


[14-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's focus on healthcare first


[14-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, you're saying you want universal coverage, but how do you think it should be achieved?


[14-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
unpopular opinion but minimum wages shouldn't go up


[14-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Mikey#7286
if you keep raising it, employers will be less inclined to hire more people for one


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not a good speaker.

It should be achieved by having confirmed mental and/or physical health issues.


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, that's junk economics.


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the things I want


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
yearly raises exist for a reason


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is heavy borderline price control of certain medicine


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
if you work long enuff


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(see actual studies on how Seattle's been impacted with higher minimum wage)


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Mikey#7286
i think it's obvious the employer thinks you're a good asset who is worth the money


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I'm pro capitalism but


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think say, insulin


[14-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, yearly raises generally are in line with inflation


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Should have a price ceiling set


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't actually increase your salary


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the purchasing power of your salary stays the same


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in "can be no more expensive than this"


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's promotions that create a real income increase.


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
inflation doesn't go up every year


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey...hav you ever taken a macroeconomics course?


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Inflation is generally constant at 2% in a stable economy


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Mikey#7286
at least, not as much as you think


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav $1000 today


[14-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's worth less in a year


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
less in 2 years, etc.


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
companies also go out of their way to avoid giving a yearly raise to as many employees as thye can


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Mikey#7286
isn't it like a dollar less


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yearly raises tend to average out about 2%


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in walmart;s case it tends to be a dime more an hour


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, that $1000 buys you $1000 worth of today's goods


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but those same goods are $1020 next year


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like it's *$20* less


[14-Apr-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which in the long run doesnt add up to anything


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
If your salary is $1000 this year, it'll generally be $1020 next year, so it evens out


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
if your salary *doesn't* go up


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're losing that $20 next year


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the year after that, it'll be the $20 plus 2% of the $20


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It compounds


[14-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
why would your salary not go up?


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Often, because you're on minimum wage


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Companies will pay the minimum possible to retain employees


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd assume every workplace raises you at least once a year


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
in order to reserve as much money as possible for profits to investors


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not every workplace does


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and you;d be wrong


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially not restaurants etc.


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you're flipping burgers, you're making minimum wage or maybe a bit more


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
but


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Mikey#7286
walmart hasn't been giving raises


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
minimum wage today is 30% less money than minimum wage in 1956


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart HAS been giving raises


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
but that's because the NYS minimum wage has been going up


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Associates make $11/hour to start


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
no I mean


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's well above federal minimum wage


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the minimum wage of most states


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Target however is gonna be paying $20/hour soon


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
they don't give the yearly raise anymore, they adjust to fall in line with NYS minumum


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause $11/hour isn't even equivalent to 1956's $1/hour minimum wage


[14-Apr-19 10:49 PM] Mikey#7286
also


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is like $12/hour in today's money.


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Mikey#7286
walmart's starting wage is actually 12.75 now


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they've finally caught up with 1956


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, MIkey


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
a huge problem


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
a *huge* problem


[14-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
is wages for people in the 17-40 year old range


[14-Apr-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
hav been basically stagnant for the past 40 years


[14-Apr-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/04/12/jeff-bezos-calls-out-oracle-walmart-and-target-in.aspx

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Jeff Bezos Calls Out Oracle, Walmart, and Target in His Annual Let...
The words were polite, but the undertone was sharp.
https://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/518938/gettyimages-849305284.jpg


[14-Apr-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[14-Apr-19 10:51 PM] Mikey#7286
this is rich


[14-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
this is the same guy who took away bonuses and other things after raising amazon's starting pay to $15


[14-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he's still right.


[14-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Mikey#7286
shit calling other shit shit


[14-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Real income for young people has been going down over time.


[14-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazon doesn't directly destroy small towns like Walmart does


[14-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Starting workers now don't get a livable wage.


[14-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Mikey#7286
no but they are giving walmart a run for their money


[14-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, where did you get your $12.75/hour figure?


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
that's.....


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
how much I make


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
i still work there


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And what state are you in?


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
they raised it last month


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
NY


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
...


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
you do realize


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
that there are other states


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
with other minimum wages


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
yes


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that Walmart doesn't pay the same in every state, right?


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s still liek $11 here


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Mikey#7286
so it might just be NY then


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't pay NYS minimum in Montana


[14-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They pay $11/hour.


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
8.60 here


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
because NY has been raising it's minimum wage every year


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But no one pays 8.60


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
it's $11.10 now


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage here is $8.25/hour


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fast food places commonly advertise that they pay 12 or 13


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
in 2013 it was still 7.25


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is like, less than a fast food meal per hour.


[14-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Cuomo plans to make the minimum wage $15 after like 2021


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
i dunno when


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy in 2 whole years


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
it's going up every year until it's $15


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
not necessarily


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Mikey#7286
in 2021 it'll be like 13


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, thing is


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant wait to pay off that mortgage on my refrigerator box with minimum wage


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart makes exorbitant profits


[14-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
so does Amazon


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.ny.gov/new-york-states-minimum-wage/new-york-states-minimum-wage

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New York State's Minimum Wage
On December 31, 2016, the first in a series of wage increases will take place. The increases are calibrated by industry and by region in order to provide businesses ample time to adjust.
https://www.ny.gov/sites/all/themes/ny_gov/images/nygov-logo-share.png


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a looooot of companies


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
this december it's going up to $11.80


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage can go up to $15/hour for pretty much everything and very few, if any, businesses would be negatively impacted.


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
next december $12.50


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, when tax cuts happen, businesses don't hire more workers, they just rake in higher profits


[14-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
it's going up by 70 cents every year


[14-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Was a pretty hilarious moment with IIRC Jared Kushner asking CEOs to raise their hands if they were gonna hire more


[14-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
none did


[14-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seattle btw raised its minimum wage with people saying it'd hurt restaurants and drive them out of business


[14-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
the pace of growth of the restaurant industry was not affected at all after the minimum wage went up.


[14-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, minimum wage is popular for a reason, Republicans however don't want to impinge upon supply-side economics.


[14-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
@TheMultiBrony21 anything to add?


[14-Apr-19 11:03 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not really. Busy atm irl.


[14-Apr-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2

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https://apnews.com/5ed6605da2a149618d6ecd1a4b0f3da2
'Mayor Pete' joins 2020 Dem race as face of new generation
SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Pete Buttigieg, the little-known Indiana mayor who has risen to prominence in the early stages of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, made his official campaign entrance...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:2a3eb5b440ab4e959e64f0bfff825942/3000.jpeg


[14-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[14-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna be interesting to see him on stage with Biden and Sanders


[14-Apr-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I really enjoyed watching his interview on Real Time


[14-Apr-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
but I haven't been following him


[14-Apr-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo anything about the guy


[14-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most don't but he's trying to make a name for himself


[14-Apr-19 11:47 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm trying to talk my mom to run for president. But she doesn't want the responsibility even though it would get us up in the world if she won.


[15-Apr-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
...you're joking, right?


[15-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Litrojia#0612
kek, you need to to actually be distinguished in some way that'd make you fit to run


[15-Apr-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
And have money, or able to get money.


[15-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOTS of money.


[15-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Running for president is like, starting a new pharmaceutical company.


[15-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
rich donors aren't gonna give to some woman off the street


[15-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Litrojia#0612
Most already kinda made a name for themselves. Even "outsiders" have something going for them like small-scale political experience, *shudders* business experience, etc.


[15-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Litrojia#0612
Like Pete here's a mayor. Being just a mayor makes him an outsider, but he had enough going for him to attract some attention


[15-Apr-19 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's also got more political experience than most people who run for president, which is ironic considering his age


[15-Apr-19 12:21 AM] ClownToy#9060
Man, I'm afraid, the president of my country wants to end the neoliberalism to combat the corruption and combat the lack of equality in Mexico. To be fair, I really wish Mexico could do the same as Chile.


[15-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Litrojia#0612
@WingbeatPony Lack of experience isn't a problem for me. He's definitely got more than, say, O'Rourke.


[15-Apr-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/us/politics/trump-mueller-report.html

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By ANNIE KARNI and MAGGIE HABERMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/us/politics/trump-mueller-report.html
Emboldened by His Attorney General, Trump Confronts Mueller Report...
The president’s plan of attack is to act as if the report itself is extraneous to his attorney general’s brief letter, aides said.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/14/business/14dc-muellerspin/14dc-muellerspin-facebookJumbo.jpg


[15-Apr-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
>But Mr. Trump’s mood has been lighter since the report was filed, people close to him said, even though neither he nor his White House lawyers have seen the full document, or at this point plan to do so before it is released to Congress and to the public. People close to Mr. Trump said they have noticed an increase in his confidence after he spent months feeling weighed down by a loss of control.


[15-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
>Mr. Trump is purposefully escalating his language, people who know him said, expressly to enliven his base of supporters and to enrage his political rivals and the news media. He has revived an idea that his administration rejected — sending immigrant detainees to so-called sanctuary cities — in part, people close to him said, to distract from the report.


[15-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good he paniced so much he went full circle to sane insanity


[15-Apr-19 01:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Sane insanity? That's, uh, one way to describe it.


[15-Apr-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
intexda is not very good with words


[15-Apr-19 01:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay.


[15-Apr-19 01:25 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not good with words either.


[15-Apr-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/jewish-settlers-filmed-attacking-palestinian-family-no-arrests-were-made-1.7112783

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Jewish settlers filmed attacking Palestinian family; no arrests we...
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https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.7112799.1555228642!/image/1590520682.PNG_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/1590520682.PNG


[15-Apr-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Isreal is an illegitimate state. All glory to the Labor Bund. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8RaM7GyGI

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TheTollundWoman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8RaM7GyGI
Di Shvue (song of the Jewish Bund)
combined tribute to the Jewish labor movement and the Antifascist resistance
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1L8RaM7GyGI/hqdefault.jpg


[15-Apr-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9ryrbzfuo8s21.jpg

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[15-Apr-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/cscP830j2KA

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Vaush
https://youtu.be/cscP830j2KA
CLOWN WORLD & Nazi Dogwhistling
Every fade transition marks another instance of me getting distracted and yelling at people in chat. I gotta calm down, yikes. Please do remain critical of m...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cscP830j2KA/hqdefault.jpg


[15-Apr-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
onoes, nazi in the title, demonetized


[15-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
honk honk


[15-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
🤡 🌎


[15-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
anyways


[15-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
private healthcare is shit


[15-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
it used to be affordable... in the 60's


[15-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
about those polls the problem is the framing of the question. it's designed to bias the polls


[15-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's only gotten more and more unaffordable


[15-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Mikey#7286
let's get rid of private healthcare


[15-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the insurence end is only half the equation though.


[15-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
... the poll questions were "what do you think the distribution of wealth looks like", and "what do you think the distribution of wealth should look like"


[15-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the monopolistic nature of the industry is the other end


[15-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
like, literally asking their opinion on the matter


[15-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing biased in those two questions, unless you're saying that questioning the unequal distribution of wealth is biased to begin with


[15-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
which is illogical


[15-Apr-19 08:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and also has no bearing on the question either


[15-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Mikey#7286
monopolies are bad


[15-Apr-19 08:32 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
public healthcare without drasticly indroducing compettion into the market will only add more fuel to the fire


[15-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Mikey#7286
and people say "well create competition"


[15-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Mikey#7286
but it's not that simple


[15-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
also the polls I'm questioning are the public healthcare polls. they never bother to mention the massive tax hike that would be needed trust me those poll results would change if they were told that important fact.


[15-Apr-19 08:34 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it isbecause of regulations desgined by the monoplies to enforce their monoploies


[15-Apr-19 08:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Comptetition won't solve the problems in healthcare because a lack of it isn't even why we have these problems


[15-Apr-19 08:34 AM] Mikey#7286
why some people are against NN because they say to just create more competition, but there aren't laws against creating regional monopolies


[15-Apr-19 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
It really shouldn't be needed though Americans spend more on our dumb system than any of the socialized systems in the world


[15-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
healthcare is not a profitable business unless people are charged way above market price


[15-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and why is that


[15-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
the military IS a profitable business, but you don't want private entities in charge of the military or else you get feudalism


[15-Apr-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Medicare is expensive because by law they can't negotiate prices, change that rule and the costs would go down


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the military is another issue alltogether.


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
agreed


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
And we spend more on Medicare that other countries do on their systems


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the pentagon is a black hole of taxpayer money going nowhere. also no bid contracts


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly if our prices were the same as other countries, what we spend on Medicare right now would be enough to  cover -yeah what they said


[15-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
The money is there it just needs to be spent better


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Mikey#7286
also our currency is based on thin air


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
spend it better then slash the military budget then maybe we can pay for healthcare for everyone


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oil is pretty thikk and not air, actually.


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
gonna stop you right there, fam


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, thing is


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
per capita


[15-Apr-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
we spend as much on medicare


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
as other countries do on their healthcare *total*


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, if we just straightup adopted the UK's healthcare system


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As the rest of us have already mentioned


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't here would spend the same amount of money


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Mikey#7286
neb, we don't rely on anything for currency, we used to use the gold standard but now we use nothing


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
so why exactly is that


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
he's saying that our money is technically backed by oil


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because our prices are massively inflated


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
we have oil stores btw


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because insurance companies make a better commission off of artificially inflated prices being "discounted"


[15-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
by private healthcare and pharmaceutical monopolies using patents


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and they're massivly inflated because of the non competative nature of the healthcare industry


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
(with giant marketing campaigns)


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sort of


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's more complicated than that


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Mikey#7286
isn't money just printed willy nilly with no backing?


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
part of the problem is medicare isn't allowed to leverage its consumer base to demand lower prices


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas in other western countries the gov't can do this


[15-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's also inefficiencies in how care is delivered


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fragmented nature of it all means that medicare may not be accepted in some places, and private healthcare often is only good in a scattered set of places


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I agree with you on that one. also I'd say drasticly reform health industry regulations to introduce some competition prices will go down


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can literally end up in an out of network hospital from an out of network ambulance


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Honahue#0656
The Federal reserve sets interests rates and buys money from the government controlling how much paper is in circulation


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
thru no fault of your own


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get charged off your insurance for it


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
furthermore


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
insurance itself is massively inefficient in how it works


[15-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
with lots of complicated rules and a lot of people needing to get paid


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
on top of that, hospitals face problems since they're *required by law* to provide care in the ER without payment


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and since they charge exorbitant rates due to the insurance runaround


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And have all of those things on standby at a moment's notice


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
many people just never pay


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means debt collectors or hospitals lose money


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means lawyers trying to argue away medical debt for some people


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I agree with I think we only disagree with the approach to the problem single payer won't fix these issues only slashing regulation will


[15-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means even more charges, often fraudulent ones, with care


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
which makes the problem worse


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
single payer actually fixes virtually all these problems


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We need *more* regulation, not less


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the US basically throws money at health insurance companies with the verbal promise that they'll use the money to lower prices when they actually just take the money and add it to their profits while continuing to increase prices


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
the root cause is private healthcare being inefficient and public healthcare being powerless


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
the US does the same thing with universities


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
basically, you NEEEEED regulation


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
private healthcare creates a system where the consumers and producers are *adversaries*


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
that waste money fighting each other


[15-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and where middlemen are adversaries to both


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
like, you can't just rely on an empty promise


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
it has to be legally enforceable


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's why just having more competition won't solve things, but make them worse


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Single payer healthcare makes the producer *unable* to fight the consumer


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and become a representative of the consumer


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
with any third parties having to bow down to it


[15-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
with no fragmented care network nonsense


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and public healthcare without serious capitalistic reforms is just the goverment joining arms with the health insurence industry to screw over the public... which is also what we have


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
this results in extremely efficient healthcare


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Single payer may not exactly be a silver bullet


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and what stops the monpolistic private health industry firms colluding with the burracrats. nothing


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's definitely something like a garlic-laced bronze one


[15-Apr-19 08:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause it's not that one insurance is providing a better deal to people buying their insurance over another insurance company. The consumer is a *loss* in profits


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
singlepayer can just say F you to basically every part of capitalism


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
like, private healthcare in the UK is like $60 a month, and all it does is expedite access to privately-owned medical equipment


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can even absorb the hospitals into it if necessary


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
we don't have capitalism in the healthcare industry we have monoplies which are anti capitalism


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
what Mexico does


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Medicare for All


[15-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
is more than sufficient


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
monopolies are an inherent result of capitalism.


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regulation is required to stop them.


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
(because of the Matthew Effect)


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
socalism is just state sponsored monopolies aka corpratism


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
(private healthcare companies in the UK just barely break even in profits)


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works damn fine for the UK, Spain, Mexico, Canada...


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
very very small profit margins


[15-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care what fancy words it technically is semantically.


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I care about things that work.


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
they get funded by the same money that funds public healthcare too


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
they're just barely viable as a business model


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If robo Hitler suppositories are the way to fix poverty, call me an Ass Nazi.


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
which is a complete 180 to the big big money that healthcare companies make in the US


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
the problem is that systems like that freeze things and innovation stops cold.


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the thing is


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
no it doesn't


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
most new drugs


[15-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
come from public sector research


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is possible to have innovation without relying on sick people to pay for it


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
which then gets patented into the private sector


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the innovation *isn't funded* by the private sector right now


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's being funded by the gov't


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
en masse


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why exactly would this innovation stop by giving the gov't greater control?


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and that's a slow and inefficent process. imagine how much faster we'd make breakthroughs if the private sector could do research


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're against monopolies, right?


[15-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patents create 20-year monopolies.


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
We wouldn't make breakthrus faster


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a fantasy.


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
not a big fan of patent law as it stands


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
research has shown


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
that humans are better at problem-solving


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
that's like saying that innovation stopped with fire back in 500,000 BC because there was no monetary incentive to innovate


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
when they aren't pressed for results


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
When money is a huge concern


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
humans do worse


[15-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
research also shows that humans are more innovative when there's an incentive to innovate


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from experience, can confirm


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Research happens better when the gov't just pours in money regardless of results


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
this is why venezuala failed


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Money is not the only incentive, if you can believe it


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and the soviet union failed. and china will fall


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it's all private sector rewarding the ones with good results, research becomes both inefficient, and skewed with falsified data.


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, usually the incentive is to either make our lives better, or entertain ourselves


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
the soviet union failed because it was totalitarian as fuck


[15-Apr-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The incentive to innovate isn't what's going on right now


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're pumping out new drugs like crazy on the gov't's dollar.


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
name a socalist country that isn't


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then handing patents to companies that want to monopolize the shit out of them.


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money throws a wrench into the idea of making our lives better and just makes it "Makes our banks bigger within this allotted time slot"


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is this about socialism now?


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And advertising them like crazy to people who are not at all qualified to know if they should take them


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
the CIA destroyed all the socialist countries that weren't


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're arguing about applying the UK or Mexican healthcare systems to the US


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're moving the goalposts.


[15-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
lol


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or did you mean to imply that the UK is socialist


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
because the US and the CIA were afraid that any government left of center would side with the soviet union


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I'm just commenting it's not my fucking fault that other things come up


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the UK is socialist, socialism must be damn good.


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what other things


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(at least when you don't leave the local federation in the making)


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
oi you got a lisecne for that porn, knife, hammer, and blunt tipped scissors


[15-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah that wasn't an answer to anything


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare isn't being done any good in the US right now with privatization


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
you're describing authoritarianism


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
not socialism


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of the positive aspects of our system are actually from the public part of it


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we replaced the private aspects with what the UK does...we would not change those positive aspects


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we would gain a much better overall system.


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
btw, venezuela is actually less "socialist" than norway


[15-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
and guess what norway isn't


[15-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
norway has stricter control over their markets than venezuela does


[15-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
all of the positive aspects of socialism can be justified under non socialistic ideologies..


[15-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[15-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't FUKKING CARE what ideology anything is.


[15-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
To me, the wallpaper used doesn't make the house any different.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I oppose fascism because it intrinsically leads to a shitty house.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
socalism is reduntant and worthless because of that because the price paied for a socalist utopia just dosen't make any of the reforms worth it.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
*walks in*


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because it has snazzy uniforms.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
I see we're yelling at idiots on the Internet


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judging by the Scandinavian countries


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the price paid is well worth it.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv us their brand of socialism.


[15-Apr-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv us single payer healthcare


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
or whatever it is that they do, whether it's socialist or not


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv us fishing where the fish actually bounce bakk after overfishing


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of continual overfishing off the coast of Maine


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
really? how's the gang violence in stockholm these days


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv us the lowest wealth inequality in the world.


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
🐦


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey guys, you know what time it is?


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does that have to do with aything?


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Utterly incomparable to what's going on in the US, by an order of magnitude


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's time to talk about how one guy got beaten up in Sweden once


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
look at the pretty red bird


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
chirp chirp chirp


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
while ten kids got shot in the US by the police themselves


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you do realize that people fudge the numbers on the US violence problem


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how that makes Sweden a terrible place!


[15-Apr-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
aahhahhahahah


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really dont


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now you're arguing against the data before even seeing it


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
how many grenaid attacks are there in america


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
nice one


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
sadly I can't join, Har, you're an idiot


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love the lies to justify shitting on an ideology you labelled as bad.


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
I've seen this data a lot and they always without exception ommit details


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially love how you started to mix in...racial problems? I don't even know, with attakks on MUH SOCIALISM


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if the details ommitted don't matter?


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause likje


[15-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
all gun violence in the US, per capita


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they matter a lot


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
is still higher than all violence total in the UK


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%93present>


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they count suicides in that


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
How are the details gonna affect that one?


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What, so suicide is okay


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, don't suicides matter?


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause that's what you implied right there


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
most recent bombing attempt were the mail bombs


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
yes


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
back in october


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would it be okay if tons of people are killing themselves?


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
they don't count sucide in the other non american violence statistics


[15-Apr-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Source please.


[15-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
No guys you see he's very smart. He watched Rick and Morty and Sargon of Apple Bee's

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[15-Apr-19 08:59 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
just remember that you were the ones who started with the charachter assasinations

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[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh uh uh


[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
walk that shit bakk


[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just accused people of manipulating statistics


[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
without even saying who you're accusing.


[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Wait, all of these random arguments you've made in the last 10 minutes have been about your *character?*


[15-Apr-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav NOTHING to stand on if you are going to completely disrespect all data because it disagrees with your ideological views.


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
"my religion doesn't believe in statistics"


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
kek


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is your self identity really based on other people's opinions


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
yes


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
because often smug people are really self-conscious


[15-Apr-19 09:01 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
you know why I don't waste my time with arguing with this particular politics chat. because every time I destabalize your worldview you reach for the lowest and most desprate tactics


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Source please.


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
okay edgelord


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm still waiting.


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
go back to 4chan


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh my worldview is so destabilized, whatever shall I do


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
citation needed on that world view rockin'


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
On your sources that show that US violence statistics are being done incomparably.


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
projection they name is kettle


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
you were just asked for a source for your claims


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
that's not an attack on you


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
that's asking you to prove your words


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, it's really hard for you to rock the boat when you're not pushing with anything


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
facts don't care about your feelings


[15-Apr-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
provide us with facts


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
no, so idc about any of this shit. I just like making fun of idiots


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and you've provided nothing fucking nothing you've just asserted. who's moving the goalpoasts now


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
My worldview ain't destabilized cause someone made a baseless accusation.


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since you are clearly not interested in providing a source.


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why are you exempt from your own standards for us


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I will pretend that you did not say that the statistics are fudged.


[15-Apr-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And will now provide some statistics, which maybe you can find flaws in.


[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no point arguing with the religious


[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.gallup.com/poll/245789/record-numbers-americans-leave.aspx

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Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S.
Record numbers of Americans have wanted to leave the U.S. since Donald Trump became president, including 40% of women younger than 30.
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[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, here's a classic https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

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America's gun culture in 10 charts
Charts explaining some of the key statistics behind gun ownership and attacks linked to guns in the US.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/FEFF/production/_100497256_gun_ownership_640-nc.png


[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it dosen't even matter.


[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
no matter what I say you'll ignore me.


[15-Apr-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6160/production/_100782942_gun_comparison_640_v2-nc.png

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https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6160/production/_100782942_gun_comparison_640_v2-nc.png


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
Are you Brooks from No Bullshit? Are you going to call us beta cucks now?


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because you dont source your claims


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your issue with this chart?


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think the BBC lied?


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
meaningless inforgraphic


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Excuse me sir


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
that does not in any sense of the word


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is showing relative percentages


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
did you just call the FBI meaningless


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
of guns used in homicides


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
.p fbi open up


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[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he did


[15-Apr-19 09:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We'd better go find some credible Breitbart sources for the guy


[15-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, he said that data on violence is meaningless


[15-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
"that does not in any sense of the word" that was not English sir


[15-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, I guess the fact that two thirds of our homicides are done with guns has nothing to do with...the amount of violence in our country?


[15-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
no, it's the liberal scum


[15-Apr-19 09:06 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
or whatever he'd say


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
LIBERAL SCUM REMOVER CLEANS GOOD, ONLY TEN DOLLARS, HELPS KEEP THE FROGS STRAIGHT


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
this infographic is deceptive because again it ommits the LOCATION of this violence


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Me watching this chat contemplating my next shitpost

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[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
what


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean it omits location?


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's per country


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you going to say that we should exclude Chicago and The South from US statistics?


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
No wait, I bet he thinks it's video games that have caused so much violence


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that we...should only look at Sasketchewan?


[15-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does the exact spot in the US or Canada matter for this?


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought we were comparing countries


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
nevermind the fact that this violence is all concentrated in SPECIFIC AREAS of the US.


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
>Homicides are taken here to include murder and manslaughter. The FBI separates statistics for what it calls justifiable homicide, which includes the killing of a criminal by a police officer or private citizen in certain circumstances, which are not included.


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
factor for that


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
and it paints a new picture


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You were talking about SPECIFIC AREAS of Sweden


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You very clearly indicated certain areas were bad


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
that certain areas would get you killed


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that therefore, Sweden as a whole had shitty policies


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now you're saying the same of the US is okay


[15-Apr-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's not a problem


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're trying to hav your cake and eat it too.


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and here's the article I was originally looking for https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604

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Statistics behind US violence
As Barack Obama vows to introduce new gun control measures via executive action, here is a look at some of the statistics behind America's problem with gun violence.
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[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which has this lovely chart https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/134DB/production/_85876097_homicides_guns_624_v3.png

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[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
I never got that saying. Ofc if you have cake you're gonna eat it.


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/there-have-been-47220-gun-incidents-in-the-us-in-2018-and-here-they-all-are-on-one-map-2018-10-27

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There have been 47,220 gun incidents in the U.S. in 2018 — and h...
As the nation comes to grips with yet another mass murder carried out by an angry, armed man, it is perhaps time to review how often Americans turn to guns...
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-GS570_scPitt_ZG_20181027143456.jpg


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, our gun homicides alone


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
per capita


[15-Apr-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2018/10/27/Photos/NS/MW-GS569_gdeath_20181027142801_NS.png?uuid=098b401e-da16-11e8-8205-ac162d7bc1f7

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https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2018/10/27/Photos/NS/MW-GS569_gdeath_20181027142801_NS.png?uuid=098b401e-da16-11e8-8205-ac162d7bc1f7


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
>That breaks down to 157 incidents and 40 deaths a day and does not include 22,000 suicides. Of the total fatalities, 548 were children, while 2,321 were teenagers.


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
are equal to the UK and Canada's rates added together for total homicides


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
>GVA defines gun incidents as all types of shootings, including officer involved, accidental, children shooting themselves, murders, armed robberies, mass shootings, home Invasions and drivebys.


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
I think he left


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
@Nolan Crush  it means having your cake on a plate *after* you eat it


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Florida Man heatin' shit up


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOMICIDES


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
not suicides


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOMICIDES.


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry for the wrong ping


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
odd, okay


[15-Apr-19 09:10 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
anyway, the idiot's gone


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
For now.


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's meant to be an impossible "you can't have it both ways" thing


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll return, with greater idiocy.


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
he's still here


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
oof


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
he's lurkin


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690192/This-map-shows-where-Americans-are-most-likely-to-be-killed-by-gun-violence.html

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This map shows where Americans are most likely to be killed by gun...
On Sunday night, 59 people were killed and 515 more were injured in a mass shooting along the Las Vegas Strip.
https://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/hires/700483799/700483799.jpg


[15-Apr-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
that one's from 2017


[15-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
despite all the shooting incidents in california, it's actually apparently much safer per capita


[15-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
just because there's so many people


[15-Apr-19 09:12 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
interesting


[15-Apr-19 09:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Alaska is completely unsurprising to me


[15-Apr-19 09:13 AM] Nolan Crush#2062
well, you have to get meat somehow 😃


[15-Apr-19 09:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good ol human meat


[15-Apr-19 09:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does a body gorb


[15-Apr-19 09:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh there you are. Did you have fun reading?


[15-Apr-19 09:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
When I hear "human meat" I think of William S. Burroughs and I get all goey inside.


[15-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
expecting me to leave the server. no luck with that one. I'll just go back to reading the other tabs


[15-Apr-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did those other tabs provide you with an argument that isn't having your cake and eating it too?


[15-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also California is like it's own country lol


[15-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few shootings there is like a single shooting in all of canada


[15-Apr-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
so yeah per capita it has like nothing.


[15-Apr-19 02:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/1efOs0BsE0g

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Honest Government Ad | Julian Assange / American Empire
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[15-Apr-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3806d472d7904f9582593c375ecf5fa3

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Trump says Boeing should fix, then re-brand Max jets
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is offering some unsolicited advice to Boeing, manufacturer of the troubled 737 Max jet. Trump tweeted Monday that if he were in charge of Boeing, he...
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[15-Apr-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
trump isn't smart


[15-Apr-19 05:07 PM] Honahue#0656
The 737 no crash model


[15-Apr-19 05:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe that's his strategy. Fix the US, and then rebrand it. :op:


[15-Apr-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would explain why he's breaking it first given all his rebrands are on broken shit

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[15-Apr-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumpmerica: Buy it fast, it will be bankrupt tomorrow!


[15-Apr-19 05:51 PM] Honahue#0656
The fact that it's almost literally no crash DLC is fucking embarrassing, transportation safety shouldn't be pay to play


[15-Apr-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think they intended for it to crash without the DLC


[15-Apr-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Whereas EA definitely expects you not to play the game if you don't buy the DLC


[15-Apr-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/438926-mueller-report-to-be-released-thursday

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Mueller report to be released Thursday
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report will be released on Thursday morning, a Justice Department spokesperson said.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert_121411gn_lead_0.jpg


[15-Apr-19 06:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1117829011860787200?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1117829011860787200?s=21
Heading to the Great State of Minnesota!
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[15-Apr-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
But Trump only has large sodas


[15-Apr-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Fatass


[15-Apr-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://futurism.com/pepsi-orbital-billboard-night-sky

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Pepsi plans to project a giant ad in the night sky using cubesats
"An hour and a half after the launch we concluded that the test was successful."
https://wp-assets.futurism.com/2019/04/pepsi-orbital-billboard-night-sky-600x315.png


[15-Apr-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
Totally nornal future


[15-Apr-19 06:57 PM] ononim#8141
nothing to see here


[15-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Astronomers are going to like, vandalize Pepsi HQ if it tries


[15-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Carl Sagan wrote about this in Contact


[15-Apr-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Notre Dame is on fire.


[15-Apr-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[15-Apr-19 07:32 PM] ononim#8141
Frollo Off His Shit


[15-Apr-19 07:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-today-2019-04-15/

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Fire rages at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris
Notre Dame Cathedral has caught fire
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[15-Apr-19 07:42 PM] Honahue#0656
The current theory is it's related to the renovations they were doing


[15-Apr-19 07:56 PM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
The spire collapsed


[15-Apr-19 08:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/patrickgaley/status/1117848909877895171

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Patrick Galey (@patrickgaley)
https://twitter.com/patrickgaley/status/1117848909877895171
The moment #NotreDame’s spire fell https://t.co/XUcr6Iob0b
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[15-Apr-19 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1117844987293487104?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1117844987293487104?s=21
So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!
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[15-Apr-19 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938

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[15-Apr-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes hit the medieval church with thousands of gallons of water


[15-Apr-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/sqstudios/status/1117846979176849408

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Stuart James Quigley (@sqstudios)
https://twitter.com/sqstudios/status/1117846979176849408
Damn someone editing @wikipedia is absolutely ruthless. #NotreDame
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[15-Apr-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
:ponythinking:


[15-Apr-19 08:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Well. Guess Disney going to have to can their live action hunchback remake.


[15-Apr-19 08:36 PM] Honahue#0656

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[15-Apr-19 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938

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[15-Apr-19 08:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNNLMzJCnLY

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[15-Apr-19 08:47 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck


[15-Apr-19 08:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Come on press F to pay for respect


[15-Apr-19 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theonion.com/fox-news-debuts-premium-channel-for-24-hour-coverage-of-1831814505

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Fox News Debuts Premium Channel For 24-Hour Coverage Of Alexandria...
NEW YORK—As part of its effort to provide the most comprehensive reporting possible on the freshman congresswoman, Fox News announced Wednesday the debut of a new premium television channel that will offer continuous, around-the-clock updates on Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Corte...
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[15-Apr-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I take a nap and i miss notre dam on fire? what even the fuck


[15-Apr-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Small penis https://i.redd.it/53885chyzes21.jpg

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[15-Apr-19 10:32 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I like that van. X3


[15-Apr-19 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-israel-holocaust-idUSKCN1RP0Q0?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5cb2643000e48b00017ee747&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

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Brazil president raises eyebrows saying Holocaust can be forgiven
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro drew veiled rebukes from Israel on Saturday a...


[15-Apr-19 10:34 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Say what?


[15-Apr-19 10:35 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Is he high?


[15-Apr-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is brazillian trumjp, so it;s assumed yes


[15-Apr-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is high on atleast 12 pounds of cocaine at any given moment


[15-Apr-19 10:37 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Wait, he called the Nazis leftists. He's not totally high.

But still, you can't just forgive a mass genocide. Especially since no one is technically alive to be forgiven.


[15-Apr-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Lmao you think the nazis were leftists


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
They were though.

Socialism/Nationalism was created by a person on the Liberal side.


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis used the word Socialism to draw away people from the left


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism is not left in the slightest to begin with.


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
They were so left. Which is why I don't get why they are called right wing.


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
N A Z I S = L E F T.   M E M E R    D E T E C T E D


[15-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The left/right divide is literally about obedience to the state, which is the core of nationalism.


[15-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so


[15-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The origin of left vs. right in political terminology is the French Revolution


[15-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically, right side agreed with king, left didn't, at a particular meeting


[15-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism is by its very nature about agreeing with the authorities, it's "right".


[15-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The left questions authority.


[15-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is related to, but not equal to, liberal vs. conservative


[15-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
liberals are about new ideas, conservatives about old.


[15-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And liberals about compassion/understanding, conservatives fear/rejection.


[15-Apr-19 10:42 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Whoops. I got it confused with Fascism.


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m6bSsaVL6gA

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Is Fascism Right Or Left?
Every Republican president since the 1970s has been called a fascist. Ironic, no? After all, fascism has its roots in the left. Dinesh D'Souza, author of The...
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[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is also far right


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh boy


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
...you just linked PragerU


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
You wanna tell him about PragerU


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
PragerU is, pure and simple, propaganda


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No it's not.


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's designed to play off fallacies and false information to get you to agree with conservatives


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe I should find a deconstruction video.


[15-Apr-19 10:43 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No thanks.


[15-Apr-19 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nebbie, no. You're misconstruing the situation. The left in the case of the Estates Generale was a case of abandoning conservatism and traditionalism. Which is what the Right-wing of the Estates Generale wanted. Although all sides agreed on particular reforms in the French government, the right-wing wanted to see a constitutional monarchy to reign in Louis' supremecy; otherwise only challenged by the French national courts.


[15-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but that's kind of irrelevant to the modern meaning.


[15-Apr-19 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
The left-right divide was geometrically refers to what side of the assembly they sat on in reference to the presiding position of the Assembly, the Mountain,  the seat the speaker and president was on.


[15-Apr-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even in the modern-meaning left doesn't mean disloyalty to the idea of  the nation. Although it de-emphasizes it.


[15-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
TMB, don't you question the sources you watch?


[15-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
PragerU is notorious for disinformation.


[15-Apr-19 10:45 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not if I agree with the sources.


[15-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's literally bias


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
like, that's the core of what bias is.


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a recipe for never learning.


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You question what challenges, and don't question what doesn't.


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Almost Every person on the Left I have encountered acts like a Nazi/Fascist.


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
How can you ever learn something if you're effectively preventing any challenges?


[15-Apr-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
The the sort of liberal radicalism of the French Revolution the tradition of the left to reform the state more into democratic control is the presiding emphasis on the left. Even in authoritarian Marxist-Leninism which sees its authortarianism merely as a temporary phase to melt down the contemporary social order. Sort of like melting down a caterpillar in a cocoon to turn into a butterfly.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure you understand what Nazis and Fascism actually are.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yeah I do. Watch the video.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The video isn't a good source.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes it is.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you seen any historical videos about the Nazi party?


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which is kinda ironic, considering contemporary ML's with classical ML's, which in relation to all other factions in the Russian Revolution were initially fairly democratic. Until Stalin.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know about purges within the Nazi party?


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[15-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or the "night of broken glass"?


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
And I think "Left"


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Describe them and their purpose.


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
night of broken glass?


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And explain how they are "left"


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-night-of-broken-glass

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[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) A purge of Anti-Hitler members of the NSDAP


[15-Apr-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, well i learned something new, neat


[15-Apr-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'd be careful saying the Strassers were actually some moderating force in the party. They may not have liked Hitler's hate of the Jews but they still mostly alligned with the other pretenses of the NSDAP platform.


[15-Apr-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
But since MB dropped MemeU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxv5q6JGNhw

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[15-Apr-19 10:51 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Damn it... I clicked delete. Hold on..


[15-Apr-19 10:54 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
The Night Of Broken Glass, to sum it up, was the prelude the the Holocaust.

It involved removing Jewish businesses, citizenship, and property. A act carried out in Russia when the Soviet Union (A left wing political group) took power years prior.

The Night of Long Knives was Hitler's attempt to both get rid of rivals and save face because of the brutality of the SA. (Alias, the group that would become the SS.).


[15-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviet Union isn't even a political group


[15-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you saying that because Communism is vaguely in the left, that progroms are a leftist action?


[15-Apr-19 10:55 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[15-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who accredits Prager U?


[15-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's retarded


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No it's not.


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking Numb nuts


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Progroms are intended to punish a group that the gov't has deemed as bad


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
>pogroms


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(I know they aren't a real university_


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
>left


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire left/right divide is about tradition with the gov't vs challenging it


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
okay


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can complain validly about Stalinism and how it derailed the Revolutionary experiment in Russia. But he's not fascism.


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
without any hint of insult


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Carrying out the desires of the gov't against individuals is an extremely right-wing action.


[15-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Inherently.


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No it's not.


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
I'd recommend you to go check a doctor about any mental problems or brain damages


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
because


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it not?


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Explain your reasoning.


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
pogroms are leftist


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
lord


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are we talking about this for real


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because 1) the far-left factions in the Russian Revolutions actively defended or protected minority groups from pogroms from the white army. The Jewish Labor Bund for instance aligned themselves with the Red Army after the Whites routinely attacked Jewish communities.


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Its


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
if I didn't know you I;d think you're pulling an obvious troll but


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
TMB trusts PragerU


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fascism was founded by a guy who wanted to bring Rome back


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus


[15-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Torr#5078
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[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guys, Notre Dame being on fire is not political.


[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
(unless you want to accuse Muslims of it)


[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] ononim#8141
well it's #SeriousTalk :V


[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] Torr#5078
:blep:


[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mahkno also was incredibly harsh against people who committed pogroms and he was a left-anarchist. He notably engaged and executed proponents of Jewish Pogroms in Eastern Ukraine.


[15-Apr-19 10:58 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Easy.

The Right is dedicated to democracy and protection. 

While the Left are dictators, anarchists, and all around trouble makers.


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
>The right


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
>For democracy


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
WAIT HOLF UP


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's completely different terminology than what everyone else is using here.


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
>As they take away democratic rights


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
LMAO


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
@TheMultiBrony21 DID YOU JSUT SAY THAT THE NIGHT OF THE BROKEN GLASS HAPPENED IN RUSSIA


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're using reversed terminology to make the argument work.


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@ononim

No.


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's just projecting


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, TMB


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
>It involved removing Jewish businesses, citizenship, and property. A act carried out in Russia when the Soviet Union (A left wing political group) took power years prior.


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
For our purposes


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's call them Polapples


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
when what does it mean, you think


[15-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Poloranges


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of left and right


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
okay?


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Polapples generally agree with the gov't


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Poloranges generally oppose it


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, which side is the Nazis?


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which side wants to do pogroms because the gov't requested it?


[15-Apr-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember the time the United States routinely destroyed democracies because those democracies were telling US buisinesses to stop looting their countries.


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have you heard of the tragedy of Jacobo Arbenz?


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@ononim

I was saying the Soviets removed various businesses, property, and citizenship. From people of different religions, political views, etc. Basically, innocent people.


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, Soviets are Polapples, right, TMB?


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so are the Nazis.


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember the time the US government backed up a Brazilian right-wing military coup because a democratically elected leader was 2left4us


[15-Apr-19 11:01 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Yes.


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought that was Chile


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
going off of that


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is Socialism as done by France, TMB?


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Polapples, or Poloranges?


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Idk.


[15-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, let's examine what it contains.


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking We did it in several countries. Not just Chile. Brazil was the longest running case that stretched from the 60's to, like the 80's. The Brazilian military right-wing dictatorship had the benefit of having the veneer of respectability by operating through the courts. Where as Pinochet operated outside of the courts; so he didn't last nearly as long.


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] ononim#8141
@TheMultiBrony21 wh


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] ononim#8141
what's not what pogroms is ffs


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Despite the Brazilian dictatorship perhaps being worse.


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"perhaps"


[15-Apr-19 11:03 PM] Torr#5078
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[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
MB would probably be upset to learn the American Revolution was a theft of King George's property.


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Friendly reminder to read Cova 312


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
So French Socialism generally argues for high taxes on the wealthy, worker's rights against businesses, and less control of gov't by businesses, with instead gov't protecting people. Is this Polapples, or Poloranges, TMB?


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Why would I be upset?


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I have only been aware of the dictatorship this year and haven't gone into much detail so forgive my ignorance, comrade


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's no problem companheiro


[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Torr

What a load of crap.

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[15-Apr-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Because that's what happens when a political-economic system changes under revolution.


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I was talking about actual property.


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
In America's case, a shift from mercantilism to early liberal capitalism.


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
@TheMultiBrony21 based on that, is it Polapples, or Poloranges?


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know, i'm impressed because whereas The Star Pone keeps whining about not being able to tackle multiple arguments at once, MultiBrony seems to be quite scatterbrained


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Polapples.


[15-Apr-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, explain how, @TheMultiBrony21


[15-Apr-19 11:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 This depends on what you define as property. And besides, the US routinely usurped Native American property. So why aren't we crying tears for as brutal a regime here in America as the Russian Revolution usurping noble property in the way French liberal democracy usurpsed French noble property?


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No wait, Carrots. It's carrots. Everyone always lists left/right. But they always forget the middle.

 @AaronMk

Because it wasn't brutal. Duh.


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the middle


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
French Socialism is generally considered radical by American standards


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 It was very brutal. All revolutions are be neccesity brutal. As is all Imperialism, such as America's.


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it reduces the power of the gov't against people


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and redistributes wealth


[15-Apr-19 11:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>wasn't brutal
You have a narrow view of "brutal", don't ya?


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trail of Tears, look it up.


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Clearly small pox blankets are a blessing.


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It ends up putting power in the people with the gov't looking out for their rights and doing little else


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
And routine US Cavalry massacres


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

The American Revolution was actually good. Russian Revolution was bad.


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 In what way?


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calling this the invented term Polapples is...stupid


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Explain why it was good.


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because both sides totally didn't loot Pennsylvania?


[15-Apr-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's clear that you're seeing thru the metaphor and trying to arrive at the "correct" conclusion.


[15-Apr-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Polapple thinking is strongly in favor of concentrated power and people obeying a mighty gov't elite


[15-Apr-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And strongly against distributed power and reduction of the elite.


[15-Apr-19 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Despite having been mostly a success *in the very long term*, the American Revolution did not so soon remove massive structural problems contradictory to its own principles, such as slavery, limited suffrage, gerrymandering... hell, many problems that began with the birth of the United States as an independent country remain unsolved to this day.


[15-Apr-19 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Reminder too the citizens of Boston rioted when they were informed a draft was in place and the rich could pay out of it.


[15-Apr-19 11:10 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

The American Revolution was good because it got the Colonists out from under the Oppressive rule of the crown and a new world to call their own.

The Russian Revolution was bad because it was just anachronistic psychopaths murdering and raping the innocent of Russia because those people "disagreed" with communism.


[15-Apr-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
@TheMultiBrony21 I have a challenge for you


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 You seem to have a very stilted and ideological view of what happened.


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
8/10, not simple enough
-IGN


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I have a accurate view of what happened.


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it wasn't that oppressive, even if the British crown didn't exactly help de-escalate matters


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Not really.


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
@TheMultiBrony21 Argue for this perspective: why was the American Revolution bad?


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Russian Revolution involved a crazy monarchy


[15-Apr-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Britain definitely wasn't exactly crushing the US under its boot


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It wasn't.


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except they were?


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not the task


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
byte is saying to attempt to argue for the side you're against.


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
The task is argue why the revolution is bad


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Not say it's good


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I can't do that.


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
@IAmADeliciousPotato As a side note: even under the British crown the American colonies were the least taxed and the least bothered with the British. It only really revolted because the elites felt betrayed by their factors.


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The tory government in the London metropolitan parliament was indeed acting quite oppressive towards the thirteen colonies.


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Then you should go do some research


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
And then come back and formulate an argument


[15-Apr-19 11:12 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I have. That is why I cannot say it was bad.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
But surely there are some aspects of it that aren't good.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And an argument could be made to at least point them out.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Of course.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try that.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, the whole tax thing was seen as petulant by the British government


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because the taxes were small


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not MultiBrony but that's just my take


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
But nothing bad that would be worth noting.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
This isn't your task, though


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because of sheer demographic and economic projections, if the British had acceeded to colonial political demands in North America, the capital would have, in just one or two generations, moved from London to Boston.


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
there are many bad things worth noting


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
This is TMB's task


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
like forced conscription


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
execution of soldiers that deserted due to lakk of pay


[15-Apr-19 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was a deal the British elites were unwilling to accept, as it would lead to continental domination within the British Empire.


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
continual inability to pay soldiers


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Those aren't worth noting.


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
excuse me


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
those are massive human rights abuses


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why are they not worth noting?


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If any country did them today it would be called out in a heartbeat


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
for being absolutely scummy as shitt


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yeah, so?

Every country at that time did it.


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the case


[15-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
England paid its soldiers


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
and conscription had limits


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Even if it were the case, it wouldn't make it okay


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, every country kind of did, but wasn't the United States supposed to be a paragon of revolutionary ethic from the beginning?


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
According to your logic.


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Because they were rich.

The colonists were rebelling against the crown and had to use what little they had.


[15-Apr-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't take being that rich to fund the army or at the very least set up a reasonable system of later payment


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The continental congress repeatedly refused to take basic steps toward payment


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hooo boy it takes a LOT of money to raise an army


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soldiers often had no hope of payment even years after the war ended.


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that was a huge post-war trouble for the US


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how the fuk we gonna pay the troops


[15-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like we're a bunch of moneymaking colonies or anything!


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a lot of the issue was states vs federal


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Still not as bad as the Russian Revolution.


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
states had shittons of resources


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the money of which came from shipping exports to Britain


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
often their own armies, being paid


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the federal gov't had, like, nothing


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
the states saw the main army as not their problem.


[15-Apr-19 11:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
when britain blocks your shipping, you can have a ton of raw materials and you still can't do shit


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay, now you're bsing me.


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, the colonies made up for it by convincing the French to attack the British


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(in terms of raising money)


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Boston milita were able to organize ample payment of their militiamen in the war by adjusting rations according to the rate of inflation during the war. But for the likes of Jefferson or even Washington the movement was libertarian in modern context and they would not be charged for anything. Washington himself went about the politics of the war for self enrichment and had the proposed capital moved closer to his plantation because he owned land on the Potomic he was willing to sell to the government so the Federal City could be built.


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the initial model of government wasn't poor because it had no material, it was poor because it couldn't obtain any of the wealth in the country to compensate its veterans.


[15-Apr-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
So it shot them instead.


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"As the war went on however, America's economic prosperity began to fall. British warships began to prey on American shipping, and the increasing upkeep costs of the Continental Army meant that wealth from merchant ships decreased. As cashflow declined, the United States of America had to rely on European loans to maintain the war effort; France, Spain and the Netherlands lent the United States over $10 million during the war, causing major debt problems for the fledgling nation. Coin circulation had also begun to wane. Because of this, the United States began to print paper money and bills of credit to raise income. This proved unsuccessful, inflation skyrocketed, and the new paper money's value diminished. A popular saying circulated the colonies because of this: anything of little value became "not worth a continental."


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Not true.


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 let me cut to the chase.


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is your source?


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion

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Shays%27_Rebellion
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Shays_forces_flee_Continental_troops%2C_Springfield.jpg


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
resources aren't helpful if Britain's just gonna sink your shipping


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Oh no! These people we promised to pay are revolting! What do we do?"


[15-Apr-19 11:19 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

They shouldn't have revolted.


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well they sohuld hav been paid.


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Works both ways, pal.


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 The government should of taxed Jefferson and Washington to pay them


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

What's more important? Money or your life?


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I will ask again.


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 what is your source on your claims?


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a bullshit argument


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're arguing on who is to blame


[15-Apr-19 11:20 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No it's not.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that question is asking whether it was a rational decision based on deterrence.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Easy. History in school.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thanks, Henry Knox for the blood on the soil


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Deterrence doesn't even work.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Uphold Shay thought.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lol American History in school


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Where America can do no wrong.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except Manifest Destiny.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Not true.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Le Indoctrination in school is valid education.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause uh, that one is hard to defend.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
No


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Multiple studies hav shown a lakk of deterrence in capital punishment.


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[15-Apr-19 11:21 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
In school, we were taught how the US wrongfully nuked Japan.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
it seems to slightly increase murder rates for a time.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Middle school alone is not enough to make complete nuanced arguments about the machine of history. You need books, articles, critical thinking.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

I did.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
No you didn't. You posted one PragerU video.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You lakk critical thinking according to your own statements.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you don't question sources you agree with.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

So?

 @Nebbie

I do.


[15-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Critical thinking is questioning sources whether you agree with them or not.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is inconsistent to say you question sources, but that you don't question sources you agree with.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 PragerU is not an academic source, it's not even trstworthy beyond peddling Koch-funded ideology.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I question everything.

 @AaronMk
Prove it.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, someone linked a counterargument to PragerU's vid.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No you don't.


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**BRUH.** Are you even capable of construct an argument that surpasses the ten word limit?


[15-Apr-19 11:23 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Yes I do.


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You literally said you don't question PragerU's videos because you agree with them.


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I was trolling.


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I question everything.


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU#Funding

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PragerU
PragerU, short for Prager University, is an American non-profit organization that creates videos on various political, economic and philosophical topics from a conservative or right-wing perspective. The videos are posted on YouTube and usually feature a speaker who lectures ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Prager_University_Logo.png


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
to start


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
`Princess Luna (Nebbie)Today at 2:45 PM
TMB, don't you question the sources you watch?
PragerU is notorious for disinformation.
TheMultiBrony21Today at 2:45 PM
Not if I agree with the sources.`


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You were...trolling? Really?


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.quora.com/Who-funds-PragerU

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Who funds PragerU? - Quora
For those who stumble across this question and don’t know what PragerU is, here’s an explanation. PragerU is an American conservative leaning non for profit and YouTube channel. It was founded in 2009 by the conservative radio host Dennis Prager. ...


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I was trolling when I said the above.


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I WAS JUST TROLLING BRO


[15-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, this isn't a channel meant for trolling


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're always trolling @TheMultiBrony21 so of course we treat you like a shitlord.


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Begone, thot


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I'm not always trolling.


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And how the fukk are we supposed to know that?


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Yet it and "I'm just joking, bro" is your go-to excuse when you get cornered.


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's been a continuous argument from "Nazis are leftists" to saying the American Revolution can do no wrong.


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
You will be swept up in the purse of shitlords.


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
At what point did you stop trolling?


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you still trolling?


[15-Apr-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Me multibrony. Me uncapable of write argument beyond five word.
I do. I don't. I did not. That is wrong. They did not have to. Prove it.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why should I believe anything you say if you hav demonstrably lied to me?


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie @Nebbie

Those weren't trolling. I was giving my opinion.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo
YTP Dennis Prager rallies the troops for the War on Christmas
after 2 years, this was my breakthrough
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IOORXvZE2lo/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Fuckk off.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good idea.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Please leave


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your "opinion" but you were "trolling" when you were defending the source of it?


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't accept this.


[15-Apr-19 11:26 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Why:


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are using excuses to avoid critical thinking, or you are trolling here.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trolling is not something you should be doing here, ever.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm using excuses.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then there is no point talking to your dumb ass.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even better. Please leave


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not a dumb ass.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You demonstrably are.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No I'm not.


[15-Apr-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I have bad oppinions. I'm just joking. No, I'm trolling. Actually these are just excuses now." -MultiBrony


[15-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone using bullshit excuses to avoid criticism of their ideas is not smart.


[15-Apr-19 11:28 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie
Not true.


[15-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinging me doesn't make your lies true.


[15-Apr-19 11:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
MB doesn't have arguments. He has statements.


[15-Apr-19 11:29 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
How does calling me a dumb ass make you look good?


[15-Apr-19 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq0DLBuiwzY

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq0DLBuiwzY
YTP Dennis Prager fixes the public education system
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/comradecora Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/comradecora
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eq0DLBuiwzY/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Apr-19 11:30 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

You didn't answer my question.


[15-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Summarizing our conclusions on you makes me look good because then people don't hav to read a wall of text to understand why they shouldn't ever take you seriously.


[15-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I often scare people away with too much text.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Enjoy not being listened to cause uh


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
you just burned all the bridges here.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I think you should apologize for calling me dumb.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Why?


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I can prove I can be taken seriously.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk with that.


[15-Apr-19 11:33 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Give me a question.


[15-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is the current federal minimum wage fair?


[15-Apr-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
What are the inherent contradictions in liberal capitalism?


[15-Apr-19 11:35 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No.

 @AaronMk

I don't even know what that is


[15-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, explain your position.


[15-Apr-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
He can't be taken seriously. He didn't even answer Nebbie's question with an argument. Just a statement.


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Because people can't live on twenty bucks a hour


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
>I can't live on twenty bucks an hour


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hell ya I can


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Gimme dat twenty bucks.


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're going to hav to explain much better than that.


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to lay out the foundation of your argument here.


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what the cost of housing is


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
or healthcare


[15-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
what the federal minimum wage *is*


[15-Apr-19 11:37 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Just because I can't answer with a argument, doesn't mean I can't be taken Seriously.

 @Nebbie

Housing usually costs over one thousand dollars.

Idk how much healthcare costs.

Federal Minimum Wage is about $15.


[15-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Per month, you mean?


[15-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not federal minimum wage...


[15-Apr-19 11:38 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I don't know what the minimum wage is.


[15-Apr-19 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 A statement is not a serious answer. To be a serious answer you need to ariticulate a supporting proposition for your answer that provides support. A is B so C, as it were.


[15-Apr-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
MB clearly hasn't reached a viable level of epistemic virtue to be taken seriously.


[15-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, look up federal minimum wage


[15-Apr-19 11:39 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I'm trying to rp in another channel and argue at the same time. Give me a Break.


[15-Apr-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Discord RP


[15-Apr-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking    d r o p p e d


[15-Apr-19 11:41 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I live in Ohio so the Federal Minimum Wage here is $8.30 which is not enough to live on.


[15-Apr-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't even get a job


[15-Apr-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[15-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, dude


[15-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
federal minimum wage


[15-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
is not different per state


[15-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
federal means of the federal gov't


[15-Apr-19 11:43 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Federal Minimum Wage is $7.25. That is not enough to live on.


[15-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, and how insufficient is it?


[15-Apr-19 11:44 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Given the average cost of a house... Very.


[15-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Should the worker own his own labor?


[15-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try to come up with a number.


[15-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what the minimum wage should actually be


[15-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
to illustrate how bad the current one is.


[15-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It may be useful to compare with state minimum wages.


[15-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
and information on how livable they make things.


[15-Apr-19 11:46 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Minimum wage should be about $50 a hour.


[15-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's certainly an interesting take. Support it.


[15-Apr-19 11:49 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
If minimum wage were $50 a hour, people could easily by the essentials.


[15-Apr-19 11:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
maybe a little *too* easily


[15-Apr-19 11:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, you have to note that companies right now are deciding between human labor and automation


[15-Apr-19 11:49 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@IAmADeliciousPotato

Not really.


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
$50 an hour would be a huge change


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if the minimum wage gets hiked up to $50 a LOT of people are saying goodbye to their jobs


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It might be a good change.


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because automation becomes so much cheaper


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you really should defend it.


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
whether that's a severe amount, I don't know


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it definitely will happen


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Not really to what? Automation?


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because that's a pretty hard missed take


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Maybe less than you think will lose their jobs


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's why I'm saying "I don't know"


[15-Apr-19 11:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but human workers at $50/hr is NOT cheap


[15-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd recommend a more conservative approach like following New York's state minimum wage.


[15-Apr-19 11:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a lot of employees are going to be let go to protect profits


[15-Apr-19 11:51 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Well, instead of defending minimum wage we should defend jobs.

 @AaronMk

I posted that at the exact same time they posted theirs.


[15-Apr-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
It'd be easier to argue that the wage system should be abolished all together. Expel the bosses and owners of the businesses all together and have the workers operate and manage the operations in a democratic union, where in everyone is paid in accordance to the share of the surplus value - revenue - produced by the workers.


[15-Apr-19 11:52 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

But then there wouldn't be any organization.
If we get rid of the bosses and overseers, there wouldn't be anyone to make sure everything goes smoothly.


[15-Apr-19 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Again, you're making a statement. Not an argument. I made an argument. You just said, "Nuh-uh"


[15-Apr-19 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 The workers can do that themselves. Or elect managers to handle that work from among them. There is no single way to democratically manage a work place and it can be organized per condition of each shop. People working in relatively small numbers of a few dozen may not even need managers to manage the great deal of information because at the beginning of each day the same workers can communicate what needs to be done during that day among themselves, and set the conditions.


[15-Apr-19 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
But if it were a larger operation delegates among the workers can be appointed to manage the needs and demands of the workers at a much higher level, without neccesarily taking the surplus their peers produce.


[15-Apr-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Arguing management at the current state is necessary to exist is like saying that kings and dukes needed to exist. And we got rid of kings and dukes fairly easily and nothing happened. Unless you're going to argue the Vandee was a bad thing. But the entire "Reign of Terror" was an absolute state of moderation in virtue.


[15-Apr-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
But in so far today, the only reason we validate said owners and managers is because of a self reinforcing system of previously held private capital and further acquisition of additional money from loans which is only ever recognized to going to people who have hoarded all of those resources for themselves. The fact that things are now is not that it's the "best of all worlds" as someone like Francis Fukuyama would argue, but that the material conditions that permit for it are present; that people have  so much money, and make so much money, they can outspend many developed nations.


[15-Apr-19 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
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[16-Apr-19 12:01 AM] illumnious#7938
*I was 17 years old at that time*


[16-Apr-19 12:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

So, if I'm reading correctly, you want jobs to be more along the lines of people controlling themselves. If I read correctly.


[16-Apr-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 It's democratic self management, where in the worker isn't recognized as a commodity - as a marketable object - that works at a certain wage, his or her price as a person. Everyone can labor, and they own that labor. However it needs to be used or however much they want they deserve a voice in that as opposed having to sign an employment contract with an employer that doesn't actually *need* them.


[16-Apr-19 12:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Interesting...

Though, in essence, they would still be under a management of some sort. Just as long as it doesn't influence the wages.


[16-Apr-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Again, you're making a statement without any supporting premises. Expand on that.


[16-Apr-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw: "With the profit motive gone, safety became more important and the number of accidents was reduced. Fares were lowered and services improved. In I 936, 183,543, 516 passengers were carried. In 1937 this had gone up by 50 million. The trams were running so efficiently that the workers were able to give money to other sections of urban transport. Wages were equalised for all workers and increased over the previous rates. For the first time free medical care was provided for the work force.

As well as giving a more efficient service the workers found time to produce rockets and howitzers for the war effort. They worked overtime and Sundays to do their share for the anti-fascist struggle. To further underline the fact that getting rid of the bosses and rulers would not lead to a breakdown of order it can be pointed out that in the two years of collectivisation there were only six cases of workers stealing from the workshops.

Extensive reorganisation took place to make industry more efficient. Many uneconomic small plants, which were usually unhealthy, were closed down and production was concentrated in those plants with the best equipment. In Catalonia 70 foundries were closed down. The number of tanning plants was reduced from 71 to 40 and the whole wood industry was reorganised by the CNT Woodworkers Union.

In 1937 the central government admitted that the war industry of Catalonia produced ten times more than the rest of Spanish industry put together and that this output could have been quadrupled if Catalonia had the access to necessary means of purchasing raw materials."


[16-Apr-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/scw/anarchist.htm


[16-Apr-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
REVOLUTIONARY_CATALONIA_WITH_GLOWING_EYES.jpg


[16-Apr-19 12:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Because I wasn't arguing. I was technically agreeing. I like the idea.


[16-Apr-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
You're a leftist, Harry


[16-Apr-19 12:12 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No I'm not. I'm a Republican.


[16-Apr-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well when a market for commodities exist the value of labor as represented as money price will be an external limitation for the liberty of the worker. But this is just what we Marxists call lower stage socialism.


[16-Apr-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now go, enjoy your three month summer vacation


[16-Apr-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@TheMultiBrony21 you just repeatedly demonstrated that you agree with leftist ideology


[16-Apr-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
you may be a republican, but in name only


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[] @byte[]

I don't agree with Leftist Ideology, though.


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
You just did earlier.


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
You agreed with a basically basic form of Marxist economics. If not Proudhonian.


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] ononim#8141
COngratulation


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] ononim#8141
YOu just class conciousnesed yourself


[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:14 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713 (pinned)
@AaronMk 

No. I only agreed because I didn't know it was Marxist.


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] ononim#8141
kek


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're saying that


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] ononim#8141
do you have humilation kink or something MB?


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
you change what you agree with


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
based on which labels it makes you?


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] ononim#8141
LIBERTY FRIES


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's dumb.


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Imagine being so cucked by ideology that when you learn the thing you just agreed with isn't your ideology you back off


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take one luxury gay fully automated space communism, please.


[16-Apr-19 12:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@ononim @AaronMk

Stop trolling.

 @Nebbie

That's not what I'm saying.


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's exactly what you just said.


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
That's what you just said


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Lmao


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That you would've argued with your own views if you knew the label they'd put you under.


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[16-Apr-19 12:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Stop spamming your commie trash.


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
.q add @TheMultiBrony21 No. I only agreed because I didn't know it was Marxist.


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Nebbie, quote added (@TheMultiBrony21: No. I only agreed because I didn't know it was Marxist.)


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I'm not a liberal.


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Don't worry comrade, I'm only playing


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
you spent like an hour arguing for one of the most liberal viewpoints in modern society


[16-Apr-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I know you're as LeftCom as they come.


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm right wing.


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
okay, I am gotta admit this whole ordeal got a chukle out of me so thanks MB


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
>I'm right wing.


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you a left-right-wronger?


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
Ah, so you're part of Bukharin fan club?


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
:^)


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Stop trolling. You assholes.


[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you put your left hand on the opposite side of your heart during the pledge...


[16-Apr-19 12:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[16-Apr-19 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being so triggered by being labeled a leftist that you renounce everything you argued for because someone pointed out it was leftist


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713

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[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-Fact: Man of the Year wasn't a title for people who were "good"


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
That has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just were notable for that year.


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Two can play the troll game.


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not good at trolling


[16-Apr-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I rarely do it


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
What makes you think I'm trolling


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm talking to Aaron


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
We didn't even try to pull a gotcha on you


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
You just walked right into it


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
when I asked you to argue on minimum wage


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He thinks posting meme pics is trolling


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was expecting you to make a right wing argument


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Mad because he got goosed into Marxism


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would be refuted by actual sources


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I did.


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>This is the only thing you got left


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that I could then educate you on stuff.


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But instead


[16-Apr-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
You made a Marxist argument


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
you made a far, far left argument


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
further left than mine


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man I'm just having a fucking laugh m8 and you're here ass blasted.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No. What I said wasn't left.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Don't worry, you can renounce right-wing republicanism and embrace left-wing republicanism and I won't be mad.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, you were arguing for like twice the minimum wage the left asks for.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] ononim#8141
But honestly @TheMultiBrony21 without any ill will, I'd say you lay out of discussing "serious topic" becaise of how you just lack a low of knowledge and understanding about a magnitude of things, plus pretty bad rhetorical skills, so you just keep runing into situation there you honeslty make yourself look like a fool and that can't possibly the best time spending for you


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
More than twice, even.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
In fact I will praise the intellectual honesty if you went, "Huh. I didn't know that. I think I'll spend some time studying Das Kapital now"


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

So? The Right want good minimum wage too.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
It's about four times


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I laid a trap for you and you did the complete opposite.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or asked for further reading to expand your horizons.


[16-Apr-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
The right wants to abolish minimim wage, @TheMultiBrony21


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
They always have


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No.


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Right wingers that want to increase it are espousing a leftist viewpoint


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate minimum wage laws


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Just to defend against a potential NTS


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[] @Nebbie

Only idiots hate minimum wage laws.


[16-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Republicans hate minimum wage


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Not all of us.


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Then your position on wage is leftist


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
As explained above


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
Overwhelming majority does


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No it's not.


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
at leasdt power holding and important ones


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.alec.org/

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[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is a right wing group


[16-Apr-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
It hates the idea of raising the minimum wage


[16-Apr-19 12:25 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That's just A right wing group.


[16-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
`Right wingers that want to increase it are espousing a leftist viewpoint`


[16-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you know what NTS is


[16-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you know why this argument works


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

That's not real Right Wing.


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
AaronMk: @TheMultiBrony21 Again, you're making a statement without any supporting premises. Expand on that.
TheMultiBrony21: Because I wasn't arguing. I was technically agreeing. I like the idea.
Also TheMultiBrony21: No. I only agreed because I didn't know it was Marxist.


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
That's No True Scotsman, @TheMultiBrony21


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
god, I can't even begin to understand this illogic


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
You're changing a commonly accepted definition to fit your argument


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
by selectively excluding groups that don't fit your argument


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

All political people do.


[16-Apr-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
No, we don't


[16-Apr-19 12:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
See? Works two ways.


[16-Apr-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Or at least, we try our damn hardest not to


[16-Apr-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
If I accept MB's premises that Marxist economic critique and proposals are compatible with right-wing liberatory arguments as MB proposes, then there's no reason to stall and form a coalition to reshape the landscape of America towards a far better environment for all or most people.


[16-Apr-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sure, the Wal Mart family might lose their revenue stream, but they'll live.


[16-Apr-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I would like to see you demonstrate how the people you are arguing against have used a No True Scotsman argument


[16-Apr-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Otherwise your assertion of "no u!!" is a baseless ad hom


[16-Apr-19 12:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I didn't say that.


[16-Apr-19 12:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

What is that?


[16-Apr-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise, MB's continuation of the argument doesn't seem to mean he can try to win. We all here recognize you already lost. There's no point in continuing this. If you want to be dishonest then save us the distraction and be that in public.


[16-Apr-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
>says all political people do no true scotsman
>doesn't know what no true scotsman is


[16-Apr-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or please, for the love of god, ask me for primary sources recommendations. Or secondary even. To do the healthy thing and expand your horizons.


[16-Apr-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is nothing wrong with having a change of heart.


[16-Apr-19 12:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

I never used no true scotsman at all.


[16-Apr-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Apr-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is nothing wrong with changing the brand of Republicanism. The Republican Party was after all founded in part by exiled German Marxists and French socialists after t he 1848 Revolutions.


[16-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
>says all political people do no true scotsman
>doesn't know what no true scotsman is


[16-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/567475932705587201


[16-Apr-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Restore the Republican Party's foundation.


[16-Apr-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
And together we can liquidate the corporate black heart of the Democratic Party.


[16-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is everything wrong with having a change of heart solely because of what labels it makes apply to you.


[16-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's putting your political identity ahead of your moral beliefs.


[16-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is incredibly dishonest and harmful to society if they are implemented.


[16-Apr-19 12:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I didn't do that. Hence why I deleted my poor comment.


[16-Apr-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
So given that your position is leftist, do you accept that label?


[16-Apr-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
pssh, labels are so last generation


[16-Apr-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
The future is to lable yourself as a follower of Simone DeBeauvoir's principle of maximizing freedom.


[16-Apr-19 12:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ideologies are dumb and limiting, it;s better to take the ideas and solutions from them and ditch the labels

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[16-Apr-19 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k

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[16-Apr-19 12:38 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Here is my view on things:

1. We need better Minimum Wages, at least $50 a hour.

2. We need some kind of border wall to prevent illegal immigrants from getting in.

3. Deportion should only happen if no one in the family is a citizen..

4. Medical research should be conducted to cure Gender Dysphoria, aka the mental disability that makes people believe they are the opposite gender.

5. Goes with 4, medical research should be conducted to cure ALL mental and physical disabilities.

6. Death row prisoners should also be allowed for use in human experimentation.

7. We need a more stabilized government.

8. Nuclear Weapons should be disarmed.


[16-Apr-19 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He doesn't know gender re-assignment is the cure to dysphoria


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 and 6 are conservative


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 is just dumb


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 is...not anything anyone would ever disagree with


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 is insane.


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can;t really cure birth defects, you can help aid them, but th eonly cure is to not have the baby in the first place


[16-Apr-19 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
4 is not medically sound


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
(like, you would get rid of the husband cause the wife's citizenship application fell thru?)


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
1, 7, and 8 are leftist.


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what if it;s a immigrant married to a born citizen?


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the born citizen also gets deported?


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I've got it, Intexda


[16-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chain Deportation


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
remember Chain Immigration?


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're just gonna


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
deport this one mexican boy


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and his citizen cousin


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and her parents


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and their cousins


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly the chad way to "cure" the illegal immigration crisis is a thorough analysis as to why they're coming, and correct that. Because I can assure you the reason why they're coming over here is because of us. So we're the only fix to the cause of their migration.


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and their dog


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
on and on until we deport the whole country to Mexico


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
if US in Mexico, no problem in US


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
only problem in Mexico.


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Deport all white people back to Europe


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mission accomplished.


[16-Apr-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those bears


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those FUKKING bears.


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
9. Military Forces should receive medical and financial benefits.

10. Everyone who thinks Gender Dysphoria can be solved by gender reassignment should be imprisoned.

11. People who have been convicted of rape should have their privates cut off.


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wolf should be deported too for safe measure


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody disagrees with 9


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
10 is extreme...far-left extreme.


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
11 is crazy as well as very conservative


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you literally trying to make the edgiest ideology set possible?


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
10 is ultra conservative lol


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh derp


[16-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I misread it


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Yes.


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
far-right extreme


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
This set of views is...wew


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
throwing people in jail for scientific fact


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
maximum edge.


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Trump would tell you to calm down, kid.


[16-Apr-19 12:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

No. Throwing people in jail for encouraging dangerous acts.


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have adhd, and possibly aspergers (still need to be re-tested to confirm) but there;s no cure for these, there never will be because they are birth defects


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, genetic engineering...but you'd also need brain restructuring.


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
there's theoretical cures for them, but those are decades off from being ethically testable


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they happen before you;re ever born and the onyl cure is either genetic modification or just abortion in general


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
All surgery is dangerous


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
ur nuts kiddo


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and abortion isnt a cure it;s a last resort


[16-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if I encourage people to get surgery to fix their bent spine


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should be thrown in jail I guess.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I've encouraged people to commit dangerous acts.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That is not what I am saying


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, they can liv with bent spines.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB being more and more like the sort of person who deserves to be alienated from society because of his detachment from reality.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bent spines are just mildly annoying.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
We going into absolute feels territory now


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
As is being a gender you don't wanna be.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
>10. Everyone who thinks Gender Dysphoria can be solved by gender reassignment should be imprisoned.
>No. Throwing people in jail for encouraging dangerous acts.


[16-Apr-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i shoudl get my spine checked, I think i have spinal damage from too many heavy text books


[16-Apr-19 12:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I was referring to how people with Gender Dysphoria have a high suicide rate.


[16-Apr-19 12:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
getting arrested for "thinking" something is a VERY dangerous prospect


[16-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
because they're ostracized for something they can't control


[16-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
that's what causes the high suicide rates


[16-Apr-19 12:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and also extremely difficult to enforce


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Wrong.


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That high suicide rate goes down after surgery.


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the suicide isnt just from the gender disphoria, it;s from everyone washing thme fromt he system and postracizing thme because they dont fit their view of societal norms


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies hav shown this.


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't completely return to normal but like


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Y'all better come up with a source for that claim


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
denying them surgery


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
is a good way to make them suicide.


[16-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Honahue#0656
You can't just say wrong


[16-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a logical fallacy called Subjectivism


[16-Apr-19 12:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Or they could just accept the gender they are born with.

That is what FeatherTrap told me, anyways.


[16-Apr-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Have you ever done this thing called online research


[16-Apr-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you know gender dysphoric individuals irl


[16-Apr-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Have you met therapists who deal with gender dysphoria


[16-Apr-19 12:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Yes to the first. No to the others.


[16-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/PDF-Trans-well-being.pdf


[16-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
'2. Among the positive outcomes of gender transition and related medical treatments for transgender individuals
are improved quality of life, greater relationship satisfaction, higher self-esteem and confidence, and reductions in
anxiety, depression, suicidality, and substance use.'


[16-Apr-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Then you don't fix that by jailing or killing people who offer the services that allign with the scientific and pyschological consensus on what is the best option for them. Suicide isn't a factor of having reassignment therapy or hormone treatment. Suicide is and has been shown as a case of social alienation of the individual, as with depression; which in part is made worse by it inspiring further withdrawal of the individual from society. You cure the suicide issue of transgender individuals by promoting acceptance of the face they are their gender, whether it is female if they were male or male if they were female. You could even go further and promote and support research into measures that make reassigned gender to be far more functional that just having a pair of titties so the person feeling dysphoria can cross the gap into being a fully operational person of the desired gender. Hell, at this point liquidate the entire notion of gender.


[16-Apr-19 12:52 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Tell that to FeatherTrap.

I linked him my Transgender OC, and he kinda acted like a jerk.


[16-Apr-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's FeatherTrap's problem and he's probably a TERF.


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
TERF?

He's a gay crossdresser from Australia.


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
TERF - Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
>We identified 56 studies that consist of primary research on this topic, of which 52 (93%) found that gender transition improves the overall well-being of transgender people, while 4 (7%) report mixed or null findings. We found no studies concluding that gender transition causes overall harm.


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who accepts the gays etc., but not trans people


[16-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(due to shifting conservative attitudes over time)


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie @AaronMk

He's not that.

He accepts them, he just doesn't like it when they, quote, "Shove their rights down his throat", unquote.


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
uh


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
What are you talking about


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's not accepting them


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Are you talking about SJUWs


[16-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
anyone who complains about group having rights and shoving them down their throat


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
does not actually like that group having rights


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 That's TERF-ism. Or as a new term is going around a "Yer Dad". Someone who hates the thing, but wants an out, so says they'll only accept the thing at a distance. He's trying to excuse his bigotry.


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I'm talking about FeatherTrap.

 @Nebbie

That's not the problem. He explained it better.


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the quotes around rights in particular


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which indicates he doesn't believe they *are* rights.


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Why do you trust FeatherTrap as a sole source of truth


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That seemed an awful lot like a direct quote from him to me.


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Why don't you fact check anything


[16-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure he could bullshit me better.


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Oops. That was my bad. Let me fix that.


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You literally said quote and unquote


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
in addition to the quotation marks


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can't fix it now.


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you *high*?


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even without the emphasis on rights it doesn't change the intent


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is feathertrp and why are thye the final authority on trans rights?


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
He doesn't want anything to do with them.


[16-Apr-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Would rather not think about it.


[16-Apr-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And just wants to hate or dismiss the group in a quasi-socially acceptable way.


[16-Apr-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a rhetorical technique


[16-Apr-19 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Rhetorical techniques have purpose


[16-Apr-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I'm fine with brown people, as long as they stay in their country" as an example


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

According to FeatherTrap. Transgender people, or Gender Dysphoria as he calls them, are okay. But when they start demanding you call them certain pronouns and get upset if you call them the wrong pronoun just once, is when he has a problem.


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
It masks innate rascism and an unwillingness to accomodate or accept that group into society.


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So...is this the first opinion you heard on the subject?


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sounds incredibly reactionary.


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Honahue#0656
how is that a problem to call them a different pronoun?


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Nebbie It is. It's active denial of recognition of the person.


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Honahue#0656
like seriously?


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Trans people aren't this hivemind who immediately freak out if you unintentionally misgender them


[16-Apr-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
So for now on I recommend we call FeatherTrap "A Dog"


[16-Apr-19 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And MB his "mutt" :^)

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[16-Apr-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
But it's incredibly disrespectful to intentionally do it


[16-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Honahue#0656
he
No I prefer she
sorry she


[16-Apr-19 12:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@WingbeatPony

I've heard multiple issues about it. From both political views.

 @AaronMk

Suck my dick...


[16-Apr-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[16-Apr-19 01:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So you have heard differing viewpoints; why take FeatherTrap's as your own?


[16-Apr-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 See? I failed to give you proper human recognition. That's what a trans person feels when people refuse to acknowledge their preferred gender.


[16-Apr-19 01:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what about it resonates with you?


[16-Apr-19 01:00 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@WingbeatPony

I don't know.

 @AaronMk

There's a difference between being called "the wrong pronoun" and being called a animal.


[16-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet trans people are called animals allt he fucking time


[16-Apr-19 01:01 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

By who?


[16-Apr-19 01:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
People who don't consider them to be people, which is a far worse crime than failing to use a self-appointed pronoun


[16-Apr-19 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 In this case it's a case that'll do. I am still actively ignoring your innate humanity with it. It's like calling a German a kraut. Or an Arab a Sand Ni**er. It refuses to recognize them as a human, as a living feeling thing with an identity, and belittles them. If you misgender and continually misgender or go out of your way to misgender a trans person even after you've been reminded of their correct pronouns you are overlooking and belittling them as a human.


[16-Apr-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
BY people who don;t beleive thye should have rights, by people who thinkt hey should just stick to their geder and that be the end of it, buy people who dont see thme as humans, by legislators who want to see them eradicated as a concept


[16-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military right now is banning anyone ever diagnosed with gender dysphoria from joining


[16-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and anyone currently serving who is suspected of it has to get a diagnosis or be kikked out


[16-Apr-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump himself


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the way this works means


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
those currently serving, if they left, couldn't return.


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further note that now we hav a record of every trans military person


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if policy changes to kikk them out


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're all rounded up.


[16-Apr-19 01:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

There is a big difference between deliberately misgendering someone, and accidentally like I was talking about.

  @Nebbie

That last part is bs.


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is BS?


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

"They're all being rounded up".


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are literally required to produce records


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Then if it's an accident: correct. Nothing wrong with it, apologize and adjust. But if you continue even after being told otherwise, that's the failure of recognition.


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they all get rounded up and ejected en masse from the military


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
that go on their military records


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not out of the question to think that they would, given the study that's been cited as the reason for discriminating against them in the first place has already been disproven as bunk science


[16-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
that say they are trans


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not physically corralled but like


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Honahue#0656
in a lot of the US its still legal to fire trans people for being trans


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and was prior to any of this happening


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The paperwork is all in place to treat them as one group.


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Technically, should people with a mental disability really be allowed in the military? A group that requires sound minds and leveled heads?


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of having to hunt them down individually.


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But other militaries hav let in trans people without problem


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
studies show if you giv them gender reassignment surgery, they're fine and effective in combat.


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Define a mental disability. Psychopathy is a *benefit* to being a soldier


[16-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are different kinds of mental disabilities and gender diysphoric doesnt stop you from beign strategic or smart


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
being gay was considered a mental disorder


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOT DISABILITY MIND YOU


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
GENDER DYSPHORIA IS NOT CATEGORIZED AS A DISABILITY


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, by your logic


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Aren't disorders and disabilities the same thing?


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
we should keep people out if they're gay


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
hell no


[16-Apr-19 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Definitely not


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A *disorder* is something that makes it hard to liv a normal life mentally, that causes you stress from routine stuff.


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's a medical background to these definitions, a very rigid definition


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Then what's the problem with Trans?


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A *disability* is something that increases the difficulty of normal things on a level of ability.


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 There's so many things that happen in the army that no one ends up with a levelled head at some point. A friend of mine is a case worker in the army and he deals with soldiers who are always going through divorce proceedings or found out their girl friends cheat on them, which have much larger performance impacts than someone not feeling comfortable in their body.


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A disability is like, you can't hear or think well


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A disorder is you do something and it makes you not sleep well at night.


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And you get the people who dive head first into alcoholism.


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
For example


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
The military is a fraternity of broken boys


[16-Apr-19 01:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Okay. So I have the latter.


[16-Apr-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the military is rife with mental problems


[16-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Frotteurism is a disorder wherein you can't resist grabbing or rubbing people sexually


[16-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which causes stress from denying the urges or causes you to get in trouble from not doing so.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Autism is a disability wherein your ability to do or say the right thing is reduced.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which causes you to need accomodation to do things right.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Okay.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the trouble with "disorder" is


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
anything can be a disorder


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
So I'm classified as disabled.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's, is a developmental disorder characterised by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.


[16-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arguing too much on politics can be a disorder


[16-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being addicted to McDonald's can be a disorder


[16-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
We let in soldiers who argue on politics or are addicted to fast food


[16-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if in unhealthy amounts.


[16-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone simply having a disorder is a bullshit standard to apply.


[16-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what does your disability hav to do with this?


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, fun fact


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
a disorder doesn't require internal problems


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it can be almost entirely external


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* if you hav a fetish that makes people want to avoid you


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a disorder


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if you're completely fine


[16-Apr-19 01:12 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I have a question on fetishes.


[16-Apr-19 01:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Is playing video games a fetish to some?


[16-Apr-19 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's an addiction


[16-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've never heard of it being such


[16-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but anything can be a fetish


[16-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
it definitely often is a disorder in excess.


[16-Apr-19 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
A fetish is a sexual component where-in the fetishist finds maximum pleasure.


[16-Apr-19 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Video games, by releasing micro-doses of dopamine can act as an addiction as an easy hit of dopamine.


[16-Apr-19 01:14 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I'm mainly referring to like playing video games while having sex.


[16-Apr-19 01:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Maybe I watch too much porn.


[16-Apr-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
That's unusual


[16-Apr-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
And also extremely difficult


[16-Apr-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I encourage you to try it


[16-Apr-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
But seems like you'd never get laid :v


[16-Apr-19 01:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

In some porno's, the people have sex while playing video games. They should get a award for that.


[16-Apr-19 01:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If you pay attention in those pornos the controller is usually turned off. The is very easy to see when they are holding a PS4 controller as the big light is turned off.


[16-Apr-19 01:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@PwnyPony

Okay.


[16-Apr-19 01:40 AM] DevField#5162
AA batteries aren't included in the porno budget.


[16-Apr-19 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
PlayStation controllers have never used removable batteries. (excluding 3rd party controllers)


[16-Apr-19 02:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1117854455473397763?s=21

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https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1117854455473397763?s=21
A brief summary of who is responding to the tragic Notre Dame fire with 'smiley faces' on Facebook. Appalling. https://t.co/OBANPl9Wpv
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[16-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
bots


[16-Apr-19 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
there's tons and tons of bots that react to tragedies by posting completely inappropriate reactions


[16-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/OppysD/status/1117859433390977026

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daylightsavings (@OppysD)
https://twitter.com/OppysD/status/1117859433390977026
@TheNatster75 @NancyConner42 @PrisonPlanet @RobjohnShaun ''our culture''

incorrect. that monument belongs to Catholics and Christendom, not atheists
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[16-Apr-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[16-Apr-19 02:15 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Seems like it's going to be mostly okay, and this fire will become another thing it's survived


[16-Apr-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw the Herbertists couldn't even do a complete destruction of the cathedral, and just decapitated the statues.


[16-Apr-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the important bits are safe, they jsut need to rebuild most of the structure and one stained glass window


[16-Apr-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then it was handed over to the Cult of Reason and the Cult of the Supreme Being


[16-Apr-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Before becoming a wine and cheese repository.


[16-Apr-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the notre dame cheese cake factory

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[16-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
No


[16-Apr-19 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cheesecake Factory needs to be summarily liquidated for crimes of post-modern aesthetics.


[16-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Lucky for it Notre Dame exists in a country that has a culture


[16-Apr-19 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
"lmao how do we decorate our restaurant?"


[16-Apr-19 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
"i dunno just throw everything into a blender"


[16-Apr-19 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cheesecake Factory ni🅱🅱as:

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[16-Apr-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are we going for egyptian, mideival, lord of the rings, or las vegas casino?


[16-Apr-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dunno, why not all of them at the same time?


[16-Apr-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
LAs Vegas' aesthetic is a mistake and the whole of Paradise should be liquidated.


[16-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Egyption Greek Mordor of Las Vegas is a testament to our refined culture.


[16-Apr-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like their food but i do agree on the aesthetics


[16-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Honahue#0656
It's sad that America has no culture so it just smashes stuff together like an idiot child with building blocks


[16-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>implying this isn't how France happened


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
France invented culture


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
It's called cheese


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a culture, american culture is liek english


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Look it up


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
>implying the english have culture


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we take little bits of everything and incorporate it


[16-Apr-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i meant the language not the nationality


[16-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
How is America and a glass of milk different?


[16-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
In 200 years a glass of milk would have developed culture


[16-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: my mom loves to claim that all the illegal immigrants coming up here "unable to even read their own language, much less speak english" is somehow "ruining america's culture", but when I actually ask her what our culture is, she says some vague shit about "speaking english", "the history of freedom in america", and "the constitution"


[16-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
https://media.tenor.com/images/0d2620a4ded4556bfe74485c304eeaae/tenor.gif

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[16-Apr-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thinkprogress.org/renewables-wind-texas-north-carolina-attacks-4c09b565ae22/

Republican congressman: "We want the free market to decide how we get our energy"
Free market: *shifts away from coal in favor of renewable green energy*
Republican congressman: "No! Not like that!"

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[16-Apr-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our culture is eagle flag lincoln farm money


[16-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
when I try to explain to her that history and language are relatively small parts of what makes up a nation's culture, she just calls me a "brainwashed socialist who hates the constitution"


[16-Apr-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of america;s cultures are adapted from other international cultures, and very localized to certian parts of our country


[16-Apr-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like you'll never really see the new orleans culture outside of new orleans


[16-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well you will but in a commodified form.


[16-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Americas culture is forced labor to the point of detriment despite all evidence that it's not only bad but wasteful and stupid


[16-Apr-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll meet people from it, but you'll never really experience it in full outside


[16-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lowered to a bar tasteful for someone else.


[16-Apr-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll mostly get the touristy bits and not much else


[16-Apr-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When over my last three trips more and more time has been drifting to Frenchman Street than Bourbon street to avoid the tourists.


[16-Apr-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Only go to Bourbon for the circus. And the Hurricans at Patty O's


[16-Apr-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But better bars on Frenchman.


[16-Apr-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And better restaurants off of Bourbon. Would explore and probe outside of the French Quarter if there wasn't an overall concern of getting shot at.


[16-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/politics/bernie-sanders-taxes.html

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Bernie Sanders Released His Tax Returns. He’s Part of the 1%.
Mr. Sanders’s income shot up after his last presidential bid, topping $1 million in 2016 and 2017 as proceeds from books drove up his earnings.
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[16-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
obviously he's no longer qualified to be the president because he's got more money now /s


[16-Apr-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd still vote for him


[16-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally an argument used by both conservatives and leftists btw


[16-Apr-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s stupid as shit


[16-Apr-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his platform remaisn pretty much the same, he backed his campaign staff inn unionizing, hes still supportive of the people


[16-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives in order to denigrate him as not being a "True Socialist™", and leftists just because him being rich automatically means he must've exploited someone to get rich


[16-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
>Their federal taxes came to $145,840, for an effective federal tax rate of 26 percent.


[16-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
at least he's fucking paying his taxes lol


[16-Apr-19 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, at least he's honest about it all


[16-Apr-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he earned money but he didnt let it change him


[16-Apr-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
leftists using the no true scotsman fallacy should feel shame, but i know their shame gland shriveled years ago


[16-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
in 2014, most of their income came from bernie's senate salary and social security benefits


[16-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
leftists are notorious for getting hung up on very small details that don't really matter in the long run which conservatives can easily capitalize upon


[16-Apr-19 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Who is this sudden appearance 3rd in the democrat nominee running. Gay, Immigrant, Young, Military, 'murican background. Seems much too perfect and balancing between the left and right to appeal to republicans and dems. This guy seems to have come out of nowhere and the BBC has been sucking his dick all day. Seems very suspicious to me. 🤔


[16-Apr-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buttgieg?


[16-Apr-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've heard much ado about him before now, but mostly because he speaks a bunch of languages and Art House Politics was already on him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC2SnAtYBGA

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[16-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
>friends with the ZUCC


[16-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
eww


[16-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't know robots could have friends


[16-Apr-19 03:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
just gets more suspicious.


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Buttchug


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Is he a plant?


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
He's just a corporate liberal golem


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Elect Divine as president. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_EDbSiPAs

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Divine is fabulous
John Water's 'Pink Flamingo's' scene
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[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe he;s a pod person


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
tide pod


[16-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Kill everyone now


[16-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Legalize first degree murder


[16-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Eat shit


[16-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
God I love that movie


[16-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
It's disgusting


[16-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
>endorses hillary clinton


[16-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
didn't bernie endorse hillary too tho


[16-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah


[16-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
But it's a lose lose if he didn't


[16-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's kind of jarring to see how young buttigieg looks compared to the people he's running against


[16-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Besides you gonna be mad that he played money ball like literally everyone else?


[16-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Well except Hillary had she played right she'd be president


[16-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
that who played money ball, bernie?


[16-Apr-19 03:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He has been advocating things that the BBC has been shitting on for a while now and it is very strange how suddenly the BBC has gone 180 and treating the things he says as though it was the second coming of Jesus.


[16-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Endorsement of Hillary was his money ball moment


[16-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
not familiar with the term money ball, according to urban dictionary, it has to do with selling overvalued players and buying undervalued players in baseball?


[16-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
so you're saying it was like "selling" an overpriced player or something?


[16-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Basically buying cheap players purely for their stats


[16-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
It was a revolution when it was tried


[16-Apr-19 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I thought money ball was like snowball rolling


[16-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's the name of a book too apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneyball

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Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game is a book by Michael Lewis, published in 2003, about the Oakland Athletics baseball team and its general manager Billy Beane. Its focus is the team's analytical, evidence-based, sabermetric approach to assembling a competitive base...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Moneyballsbn.jpg


[16-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
>Its focus is the team's analytical, evidence-based, sabermetric approach to assembling a competitive baseball team despite Oakland's small budget.


[16-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes


[16-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
You remove human elements and focus on numbers


[16-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised that was considered revolutionary tbh


[16-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Endorsement of Hillary was Bernie playing money ball cause even if she is.just another corporate golems it would have been at least slightly better for the country that. Trump


[16-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
especially considering how corporations have been breaking people down into "just numbers" for decades


[16-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah scouts used to grade players on human elements like if they had a hot girlfriend or something


[16-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
lol wtf


[16-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
that's dumb


[16-Apr-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTFpW-xsERs

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🔴 Please Donate: https://www.paypal.me/BerniePresident2020 Not me. Us. No one candidate, not even the greatest candidate you could imagine, is capable of tak...
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[16-Apr-19 03:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't think someone who has a girlfriend is very experienced with playing with balls.


[16-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
surprised that fox news would host a sanders town hall


[16-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
.q add @PwnyPony I don't think someone who has a girlfriend is very experienced with playing with balls.


[16-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@PwnyPony: I don't think someone who has a girlfriend is very experienced with playing with balls.)


[16-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Corporations have been reducing people to numbers but that wasn't possible before big data so for a long time there was still an element of human decision making in stuff


[16-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Now shit is almost purely metric based


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
You could do that in sports especially baseball before you could with shopping cause people have been meticulously tracking every stat in baseball for 100 years


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
And a much smaller group


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where I work we get timed on carts.


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
let me guess, you don't get paid extra for doing better


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think most of us lie with the numbers because we write the times on when we start and finish a project on a sheet of paper


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nope


[16-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
which would be the logical thing to do


[16-Apr-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
No pay in proportion to amount of value created under the wage system m'boye


[16-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://usworker.coop/what-is-a-worker-cooperative/

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Worker Ownership


[16-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think it'll ever be possible to work in a coop just because positions in one would be so competitive lol


[16-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
I heard costco is basically a cooperative despite officially being a corporation


[16-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Publix too


[16-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
which is why jobs are so absurdly competitive


[16-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
There are a few around


[16-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
New Belgium brewing


[16-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
the only real downside I've seen to costco's business model is the too many managers part


[16-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
lots and lots of extraneous managers floating around because of their promotion system


[16-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's much preferrable to the alternative of no promotions and part-time work only


[16-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe, I feel.like that's a huge problem in a lot of business


[16-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Just midde managers doing shit to justify their positions


[16-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic


[16-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Honahue#0656
The Peter Principal, you get promoted to your highest level of incompetence


[16-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
there's no publix in california apparently


[16-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
that's probably why I've never heard of it before


[16-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah it's a southern chain


[16-Apr-19 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's also apparently no publix in Ohio


[16-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Like Florida area I think


[16-Apr-19 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I have seen it in GA tho


[16-Apr-19 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's one about a 20min walk from me


[16-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
http://store.publix.com/publix/Icon/US.nodots.gif

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[16-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
those are the states it operates in


[16-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I remember reading that they were really good at keeping WalMarts out


[16-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Cause the stores are similar priced but hella nicer


[16-Apr-19 03:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel like they're more analogous to Kroger than Walmart tho :ponythinking:


[16-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Honahue#0656
They are more upscale


[16-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do Piggly Wigglys still exist


[16-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
🐖


[16-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggly_Wiggly

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Piggly Wiggly
Piggly Wiggly is an American supermarket chain operating in the Southern and Midwestern regions of the United States, run by Piggly Wiggly, LLC, an affiliate of C&S Wholesale Grocers. Its first outlet opened in 1916 in Memphis, Tennessee, and is notable for having been the fi...
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[16-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
apparently so


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
oh god


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
that vector


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
looks so fucking bad on dark theme


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
it's like satan pig


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
is coming for our souls


[16-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Consume me, human_


[16-Apr-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a piggly wiggly in my town


[16-Apr-19 03:35 AM] RYDE#8862
I remember that store


[16-Apr-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry for the ant picture, it;s the only resolution google will give me

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[16-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, found a disgusting heritage.org article claiming that "gender reassignment surgery doesn't work"


[16-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
citing Paul McHugh


[16-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
We need Star Trek gender reassignment surgery


[16-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Where you can turn into a girl for the weekend and back again


[16-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/long-shadow-cast-by-psychiatrist-on-transgender-issues-finally-recedes-at-johns-hopkins/2017/04/05/e851e56e-0d85-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html


[16-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The main trigger was a study by Jon Meyer, who ran the hospital’s Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit. In the study, Meyer concluded that although “sex-change” surgery was “subjectively satisfying” for the small sample surveyed, the operations they underwent conferred “no objective advantage in terms of social rehabilitation.”


[16-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr because they didn't "fit in" with society, they shouldn't do the surgery despite the fact it makes transgenders much happier


[16-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
>Many scientists subsequently challenged the methodology behind Meyer’s study, as well as his interpretation of the results, but in the decade that followed, other academic hospitals often cited the research when they discontinued their own transgender surgical programs.


[16-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe society is just kinda shitty to people that don't look "quite right"


[16-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
basically, citing mchugh as a credible source on transgender reassignment surgery is like citing andrew wakefield on the effects of vaccines on autism rates


[16-Apr-19 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what else is new :ponythinking:


[16-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your avatar being too small.


[16-Apr-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[16-Apr-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's small?


[16-Apr-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought it fit more or less fine


[16-Apr-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's because Nebbie is using light mode so it looks small


[16-Apr-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ha


[16-Apr-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Light mode plebs


[16-Apr-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
@Honahue peter principle is kind of bs


[16-Apr-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

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[16-Apr-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
this is more complete


[16-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, is star trek mtf gender reassignment capable of bearing children


[16-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
and is star trek ftm gender reassignment capable of producing genetically appropriate sperm


[16-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek never showed such surgeries


[16-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it would be well within the technological capabilities shown in TNG.


[16-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, the Vidiians can replace every organ in their body with those of another species and still reproduce biologically.


[16-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the Borg can just plain grow babies in shelving.


[16-Apr-19 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
DS9 Quark was turned into a girl for reasons


[16-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Considering how sexiest Ferengi are ~~and Roddenberry's weird obsession with their huge junk~~ he would have to be very certain it was reversible


[16-Apr-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait, that involved actually changing the genitalia?


[16-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
That was the impression I got anyway


[16-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
It's Star trek if they point a tricorder at him they can tell his sex


[16-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
I figured it was a really good disguise


[16-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Bashir did do surgery, but it's not clear how extensive.


[16-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
May hav only been superficial.


[16-Apr-19 05:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Because it was to be a spy I figured it would hold up to Star Trek scanner technology


[16-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm pretty sure tricorders could read DNA


[16-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was only to fool Zek


[16-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ferengi comedy eps don't generally think of that sort of thing.


[16-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Honahue#0656
They don't know it's a comedy


[16-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/1971593

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[16-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that's the pic I see spammed on /mlp/


[16-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/2DAlizes/status/1117866990427762688

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[16-Apr-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[16-Apr-19 10:38 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[16-Apr-19 10:49 AM] DevField#5162
:ponythinking:


[16-Apr-19 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't realize how big antisemitism and holocaust-denying was on twitter


[16-Apr-19 12:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article229227114.html

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The Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department has released bodycam video of the officer involved shooting of Danquirs Napoleon Franklin. Leaders expect protests now that footage of the black man’s death is public.
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[16-Apr-19 12:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember the time Czar Nicholas II spent time during the revolution just fucking riding his bicycle around his palace grounds and shooting crows. An activity he was doing up until he and the royal family was captured by the Bolsheviks because they didn't really care about much of anything.


[16-Apr-19 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/work/working-9-to-9-jack-ma-says-workers-should-do-12-hour-days-six-days-a-week-1.3861904?mode=amp


[16-Apr-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Chinese tech employees are pushing back against the industry’s notoriously long hours, known as the “996” schedule of working from 9am to 9pm, six days a week.

Over the past few weeks, a project that began in part as a joke among tired Chinese developers has turned into a nationwide debate about work culture and a rare protest against practices at some of the country’s largest companies.

In late March, a group of developers started a project on the code-sharing platform Github called “996.icu” - a reference to a comment by a programmer that working such a schedule could land an employee in the intensive care unit.


[16-Apr-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/polish-senator-says-nation-should-be-purged-of-unworthy/ar-BBVPAUt

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Polish senator says nation should be 'purged' of unworthy
Critics of Poland's right-wing ruling party are voicing outrage after one of its senators said Poland should be "purged" of those "not worthy of belonging to our national community."


[16-Apr-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Saying what the rest are thinking, more like...


[16-Apr-19 03:21 PM] ononim#8141
absolutely love the Eastern European Racism Roayale


[16-Apr-19 03:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1118145749148209153?s=21

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[16-Apr-19 04:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1118155023849017345?s=21

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[16-Apr-19 04:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/politics/ice-deports-husband-of-dead-veteran/index.html

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ICE deported the husband of a soldier killed in combat even though...
The husband of a US Army soldier killed in combat was detained and deported to Mexico last week by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement even though he had been granted permission to stay in the US, according to his attorney.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190415225855-jose-gonzalez-carranza-super-tease.jpg


[16-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Honahue#0656
Apparently there's been an upswing in antisemitism is France


[16-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, but guess what


[16-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's almost entirely from muslims


[16-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is the little note people forget to mention


[16-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

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‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum
Members of the party establishment who oppose Bernie Sanders have had discussions about how to handle his candidacy, while others warn of a schism within the party.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/15/us/politics/15stopsanders1/15stopsanders1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[16-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr the democrats are still fucking retarded


[16-Apr-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He's gonna ruin our cash showers! guys we gotta stop him!


[16-Apr-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's a threat to their lobbying status quo and he actually wants to act on the things he campaigns on isntead of just campaigning on them and leaving them open ended for future races


[16-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders/Buttigieg


[16-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There, you're done


[16-Apr-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry Joe


[16-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
buttigieg seems kinda iffy tbh, seems like another young biden (like beto)


[16-Apr-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure how to feel on beto or buttgieg


[16-Apr-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buttgieg seems too perfectly crafted to a point of suspicion, and i dont knwo anything about beto


[16-Apr-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s9OQS_1555428818

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Liveleak.com - usa female cop shoots  and kills armed male !
charlotte-mecklenburg police shot danquirs franklin  not so sure on th..
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[16-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
guy had a gun apparently, was squatting down next to his car, cops came up and told him a bunch of times to put the gun down, he puts the gun down, they shoot him


[16-Apr-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
he incredulously says "but I put it down..." before slumping over dead


[16-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
the moral of the story is that police will shoot you whether you comply with them or not

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[16-Apr-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2019/04/15/ice-deports-gonzalez-spouse-u-s-soldier-killed-afghanistan/3477332002/

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U.S. deports spouse of fallen soldier, quickly reverses decision
ICE has deported the spouse of a U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving the couple's 12-year-old daughter in the United States without parents.
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[16-Apr-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
lmao they can't make up their fucking minds


[16-Apr-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
widower of US soldier killed in afghanistan was deported to mexico, leaving his 12 year old daughter with her grandparents, then they abruptly reversed the decision a day later


[16-Apr-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
AFTER he was deported


[16-Apr-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
no matter whether you think ICE should exist or not, it's a fucking shitshow


[16-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, @prism stryder(intexda) https://deadline.com/2019/04/hollywood-donates-to-mayor-pete-buttigieg-1202596571/

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Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s Presidential Bid Gets Boost From Hollywoo...
Mayor Pete Buttigieg has only officially been in the presidential race for one day, and the South Bend, Indiana politician has already raised big bucks. James Murdoch, considered the more moderate …
https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/ap_19052056004444.jpg?w=1024


[16-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
hollywood is paying this dude out the ass lol


[16-Apr-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
individually, he's being paid $2.8k by individual actors, but no one knows where the big fundraising money comes from


[16-Apr-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
>James Murdoch, considered the more moderate of conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch’s sons, donated $2,800 to Buttigieg last month, according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings — that’s the maximum an individual can give to a candidate.


[16-Apr-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
>ABC Studios TV Writer Peter Nowalk also donated $2,800. Other major Hollywood contributors include Ken Olin, Jane Lynch and Mandy Moore.


[16-Apr-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
>The 2020 Democratic contender raised more than $7 million in the first quarter of the year, his campaign announced Monday.


[16-Apr-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I like him


[16-Apr-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I hope for Bernie, but I realize that Bernie is alienating to a lot of people


[16-Apr-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
In an approval voting system, I would approve of both Buttigieg and Bernie


[16-Apr-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got some questionable racist police stuff going on


[16-Apr-19 09:24 PM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9p3DzUwxI0o

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[16-Apr-19 09:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The guy is a political plant. I am sure of it. A lot of media are going against what they would usually be for to support him.


[16-Apr-19 10:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1118212755918589952?s=21

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[16-Apr-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is your chance to egg him, Green Bay


[16-Apr-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ChatByCC/status/1118213218386579456

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[16-Apr-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
does he do anything other than golf and hold rallies?


[16-Apr-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-cracks-down-on-sexually-explicit-content-in-games-11555427944

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Sony Cracks Down on Sexually Explicit Content in Games
Sony is cracking down on sexual content in PlayStation 4 videogames globally, reflecting concerns in the U.S. about the depiction of women in games but irritating some software developers.
https://images.wsj.net/im-67239/social


[16-Apr-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda got egg on my face here: I was fine with it when it was just creepy loli stuff but now actual shit is getting censored that has no reason to be.


[16-Apr-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
censorship is always a slippery slope


[16-Apr-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
it always starts with the most "degenerate"


[16-Apr-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
it's why it's inevitable that discord's going to ban NSFW completely in the next few years


[16-Apr-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people looking at europe thinking they will just stop at loli should probably look into history as well, they always start with the most controversial stuff and work their way down in censorship


[16-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See I get it the argument


[16-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the US bans CP


[16-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And we still have porn period other than that


[16-Apr-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
CP bans are a problem


[16-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_what_


[16-Apr-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the US has been trying to censor other porn for decades


[16-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember I talked with someone who knew some sort of federal agent whose job it was to verify that the CP really was CP


[16-Apr-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She said she had never met someone who quite openly said they hated their job


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not even a necessary job


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
go after the people abusing kids


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
not the people who have pictures on a server somewhere


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cp was actually a big enough problem to be able to make illegal


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so byte


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Question


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
cp was and always has been an imaginary problem justified with "what about the children"


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone has ivory, that's promoting the ivory trade


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if they don't kill an elephant


[16-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They are encouraging others to do so


[16-Apr-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
having ivory is different from having a picture of ivory


[16-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In this case CP is more like ivory itself than a picture of it


[16-Apr-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
not really


[16-Apr-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The CP is the product of the behavior just as the ivory is


[16-Apr-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem is that banning CP doesn't even come close to stopping the behavior


[16-Apr-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
and now you've just made a ton of server owners legally liable for something they had nothing to do with and had no knowledge of


[16-Apr-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
this isn't okay


[16-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
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[16-Apr-19 10:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Thanks WSJ, real cool


[16-Apr-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
what's more, the CP ban is usually used to justify also banning loli and s hota


[16-Apr-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
which are obviously not child sexual exploitation and have nothing to do with the entire point of the law


[16-Apr-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem with CPlaws is they were written during a time when selfies and self nudes weren;t really a thing


[16-Apr-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
to use your ivory analogy, it's like banning plastic piano keys because they are a replacement for ivory ones


[16-Apr-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so teenagers sending eachother nudes end up gettign arrested and charged as child predators because they have pictures of themselves naked


[16-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm there's a lot of stuff on the effects


[16-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know a lot of people don't want even fictional versions


[16-Apr-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But it varies by state


[16-Apr-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a question of what counts as CP, because some people would have you beleive an innocent picture of children jumping shirtless at a sleepover on a mattress is CP.


[16-Apr-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/NirvanaNevermindalbumcover.jpg> is this CP?


[16-Apr-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
how about this? <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Virgin_Killer.jpg>


[16-Apr-19 11:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
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[16-Apr-19 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
how about that scene in the 2006 superman movie with that little boy walking dead ass naked toward the camera


[16-Apr-19 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
was that CP?


[16-Apr-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnet.com/news/teen-arrested-for-having-nude-photos-of-himself-on-his-phone/

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Teen arrested for allegedly having nude photos of himself on his phone
A North Carolina boy finds himself looking at felony sex offender charges in which perpetrator and victim are both him.
https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/img/vCxxrwNezBVVkmWHf4lQfxoAtTs=/756x567/2015/09/21/744cc6a6-3af4-4dc2-b014-0813438ddf4b/britt.jpg


[16-Apr-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aclu.org/blog/juvenile-justice/minnesota-prosecutor-charges-sexting-teenage-girl-child-pornography

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Minnesota Prosecutor Charges Sexting Teenage Girl With Child Porno...
A 14-year-old Minnesota girl is fighting criminal charges that have the potential to destroy her future, including her ability to obtain housing, to enroll in college programs, and even to pursue some career paths. Her case does not involve harm to others. It does not involve...
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[16-Apr-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fresnodefenders.com/blog/teens-prosecuted

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Teens Prosecuted for Having Their Own Nude Photos!
Minors rights are being infringed upon by state officials. Read why the courts can impose moral or ethical beliefs that are not consistent with other  laws. See how the government is failing to protect our minor children from itself.
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[16-Apr-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this also happens quite a bit because the laws arealso vague as fuck, and all of these teenagers get put on sexual predator lists event hough the nudes were of themselves


[16-Apr-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
> WRAL-TV reports that Copening has reached a plea deal. He will spend one year on probation. During this probation he has agreed to not protest police searches that happen to lack a warrant.


[16-Apr-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
this is blatantly fucking illegal


[16-Apr-19 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
and is just retaliation by the police against having their illegal search called into question


[16-Apr-19 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
like wtf


[16-Apr-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can give you hundreds more examples of this from over the years


[16-Apr-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/21/n-c-just-prosecuted-a-teenage-couple-for-making-child-porn-of-themselves/


[16-Apr-19 11:08 PM] illumnious#7938
@Crow

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[16-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
On Virgin Killer btw


[16-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's been gone after in other countries


[16-Apr-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact a guy in IIRC Sweden got put on trial over tons of manga he was translating...and a Virgin Killer image


[16-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea was "sure, this is okay according to the country that made it, but it makes the case easier for the prosecution!"


[16-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a bit of completely missing the point, sometimes the US goes after people for images of fully-clothed kids bending over


[16-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it often allows artistic nudes


[16-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
like...wut


[16-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
CP being banned itself isn't a *huge* problem, but the trouble comes in when the ban starts leaking its original goals and scope


[16-Apr-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You end up with kids being registered sex offenders...for sharing their own nudes


[16-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well, loli/shota law requires the dubious "obscene" standard but like


[16-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
if it's CGI


[16-Apr-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually we're going to hav some ridiculously high-res child models being used for loli and that's gonna lead to a mess.


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
so where do we draw the ~~slit~~ line


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody knows


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK took down the Brooke Shields image


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
When it was in an art gallery


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
they never put it bakk up


[16-Apr-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
at least they didn't charge anyone.


[16-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That image was made in 1976, with full permission from Brooke and her mom and everything


[16-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
but now that it was taken down by UK police, no news site will host it


[16-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
this creates a very obvious chilling effect.


[16-Apr-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the image was to tie in with a film examining issues of how we perceive young girls and treat them badly societally.


[16-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was *meant* to provoke you by showing you a naked 10-year-old into thinking twice about the 70s culture.


[16-Apr-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But now it can't do that.


[16-Apr-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a whole broken fucking mess


[16-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the question is


[16-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
in 10 years


[16-Apr-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
when every single kid outside of Africa and remote mountain areas has a phone


[16-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they're all taking pictures of themselves


[16-Apr-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk do we do?


[16-Apr-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
man even the kids _in_ africa have phones


[16-Apr-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not even 2020 yet


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
no running water, but phones


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
no electrical grid, but oil-fired and hand cranked generators


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
For reference purposes, the Brooke Shields thing is part of the series "The Woman in the Child"


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
no cable deployment, but the most competitive wireless network industry in the world


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discord most likely would be very unhappy if I linked to one of the pages with the image actually surviving.


[16-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, that's a further complication


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kids in Africa don't know shit about CP laws or western ideas


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
many of them start having sex at 11


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*ideals


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
what are we going to do when they're sharing porn like crazy? Jail them?


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not gonna work.


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, to get at the ivory example


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
banning the sale of ivory hardly does anything


[16-Apr-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly what you do is make porn a strictly state-run enterprise on the basis that everything ever produces shall be based on the denial of fulfillment and derision of the viewer to achieve maximum fetishization.


[16-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to cut it off at the source.


[16-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the bigger the source, and the more it can hide in innocent things, the harder that is.


[16-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
When we're wasting resources on Brooke Shields images, we're not actually stopping the real abuse.


[16-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
CP law is a little too broad for what it's supposed to do.


[16-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it's not gonna be sustainable.


[16-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
CP law is predicated on photography being expensive.


[16-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something rich adults do.


[16-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment poor kids are doing it, the battle is lost.


[16-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, banning loli to stop child abuse is like banning piano keys to save the Rhino


[16-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, worse


[16-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's like banning the types of plastics to replace ivory themselves


[16-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that piano keys are illegal either way


[16-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That just leads to people not caring whether they're getting CP or loli...which is bad.


[16-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's going to be a fun several decades.


[16-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking realistically speaking


[16-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rhinos are extinct.


[16-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
We waited far, far too late for doing anything to even come close to getting at why people want ivory and how they're able to get it.


[16-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, the western approach to banning things just means you spend billions of dollars tossing people in jail and things go to shit anyways.


[16-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the West almost always forgets to push things into the sunlight.


[16-Apr-19 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
or deliberately doesn't put them in the sunlight...


[16-Apr-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or buries them under mountains of controversy so the never had a chance to begin with


[16-Apr-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually at the request of lobbyists if it;s a politician, or the owner of the company if it;s a news site/channel


[16-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes. Generally, the West convinces idealists that just having something be illegal stops it from happening.


[16-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they don't even think it *can* happen once illegal.


[16-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the pessimists and realists get to the point of not caring whether it happens.


[16-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everybody loses!


[16-Apr-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
that or it's only illegal if brown people do it


[16-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well usually it's illegal *unless*...


[16-Apr-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or it's illegal in one area only after mainly brown people started doing it.


[16-Apr-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brown people in swimming pools? Looks like it's time to take away public swimming pool funding!


[16-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
To tie things bakk, too


[16-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
AoC laws can be enforced varyingly


[16-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
White girl had a scary blakk kid in her bedroom, she was moaning? Throw blakk kid in jail.


[16-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
White girl had a nice white boy instead? Let's let him off with a warning.


[16-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively


[16-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
make her marry the white boy at a shotgun wedding.


[16-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same thing can be used against homosexuality.


[16-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
That case with high school lesbians in Florida being a prime example


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
the parents of the 14-year-old didn't agree with her being a dyke, so they got the 18-year-old arrested and put in jail.


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] RYDE#8862
The education system is terrible in the United States


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
ha ha ha


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The judge even punished the 18-year-old for talking to the 14-year-old during the trial.


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's shit tier


[16-Apr-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s an understatement


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
the politicans were so focused on the tests that they forgot to check if the kids were learning


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
(they weren't)


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republican logic, byte


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Scalia about Bush v Gore?


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
why were they focused on the tests? because the companies who made the tests were making big bucks $$$$$$$$$$$


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if the numbers are high then everythign is working!


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just that


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, in Bush v Gore


[16-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Scalia's reasoning for the case being decided in a way that made no legal sense


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] RYDE#8862
From where I live, America is stupid.


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that just rendered it invalid immediately to put an end to the recounts


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
was that "the world is laughing at us"


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans care greatly about perceptions


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to sweep problems under the rug instead of solve them


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
the world is always laughing at the US for being the most backwards first world country


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that they look good.


[16-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, on testing


[16-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
standardized tests showed the US to be bad at teaching


[16-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
so Republicans said


[16-Apr-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah too bad the rug is now on a pile of shit instead of over it


[16-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
then we'll make the kids look good on tests!


[16-Apr-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
DRC, a standardized test company in my state (PA), has been quietly funneling hundreds of millions of dollars from state coffers for education


[16-Apr-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
this was actually part of my senior project in HS


[16-Apr-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is alsow hat lead to special ed beign such a shit fest as it became filled with kids who werent good at testing so thye could keep up the illusion of good test grades


[16-Apr-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
an expose on DRC


[16-Apr-19 11:56 PM] RYDE#8862
Republicans don't want education. They want dumb people


[16-Apr-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want dumb conspiracy theorists who dont question authority


[16-Apr-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I got in more trouble with some of the school administrators for things I said when presenting my project


[16-Apr-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
(even though they were factually accurate)


[16-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want dumb people who look good on global tests.


[16-Apr-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.datarecognitioncorp.com/Pages/default.aspx


[16-Apr-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my state didnt like that science said global climate change would put any coastal building project underwater in the next decade, so thye built a law to keep people building in the flood zone instead


[16-Apr-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
how to scare off insurance companies 101


[17-Apr-19 12:00 AM] RYDE#8862
I sometimes feel like I'm not impressed with my country


[17-Apr-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm continually impressed at the amount of wool that has been pulled over the eyes of my country's population


[17-Apr-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans are liek children who dont liek to clean their rooms, they pile shit under the carpet as long as they can, and stuff things int he closet. but eventually that pile is going to be a steep mountain that the rug slides off of, or that closet is goign to burst open and avalanche


[17-Apr-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
nah


[17-Apr-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll build a bigger closet


[17-Apr-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
until the brown people building their closets have had enough


[17-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/12/north-carolina-didnt-like-science-on-sea-levels-so-passed-a-law-against-it

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North Carolina didn't like science on sea levels … so passed a l...
In 2012, the state whose low-lying coast lies in the path of Hurricane Florence reacted to a prediction of catastrophically rising seas by banning policies based on such forecasts
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[17-Apr-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been reading a ton of stuff about hiring and wages recently


[17-Apr-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
and the thing where "Americans don't like to talk about salary and wages" kept sticking in my mind


[17-Apr-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that woudl be my top question when searching for a job, but companies don;t liek talking about it because it means they;d have to face that issue instead of ignoring it


[17-Apr-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soemhow it;s considered rude to ask what the salary of a job is when talking to soemone about their own job


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's rude to the employer


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
because if the employees figure out how much they get paid they could demand more


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
and that would mean less profits ohno


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
worse


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they could


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
_form a union_


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
(*gasp!*)


[17-Apr-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://fox17online.com/2019/04/12/man-sues-parents-over-trashed-porn-collection/

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FOX 17 is choosing to identify the plaintiff in this story as "Charlie," as this is a civil case without any associated criminal charges.

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[17-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol you _can't_ tell employees that they cannot talk about their wages to each other


[17-Apr-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet they doooo


[17-Apr-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the thing that matters is it being illegal to fire them for it


[17-Apr-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
not whether it's legal for them to talk about it, which it always is


[17-Apr-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several states allow employers to fire employees if there's even a wiff of potential unionizing going on


[17-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Illegal to fire them for what, engaging in the exact sort of thing that they're allowed to do


[17-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right to Be Fired


[17-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This will lead to SCOTUS cases.


[17-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even in a "RTW" state you can't interfere with that


[17-Apr-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
illegal for employees to be fired for discussing things like wages


[17-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes that is illegal too and you'll get fucked hard if you do it as an employer


[17-Apr-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on who the employer is


[17-Apr-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
small businesses wont get away with it sure, but walmart on the other hand


[17-Apr-19 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
btw, @Itsthinking , any comment on this?
https://www.cnet.com/news/teen-arrested-for-having-nude-photos-of-himself-on-his-phone/

> WRAL-TV reports that Copening has reached a plea deal. He will spend one year on probation. During this probation he has agreed to not protest police searches that happen to lack a warrant.

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Teen arrested for allegedly having nude photos of himself on his phone
A North Carolina boy finds himself looking at felony sex offender charges in which perpetrator and victim are both him.
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[17-Apr-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb


[17-Apr-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a retaliatory move by the prosecutor for daring to question the authority of the police


[17-Apr-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
is that not unconstitutional


[17-Apr-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should not be allowed to be arrested for a crime you are the victim of.


[17-Apr-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sex offender laws are vague and broken


[17-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I was about to say how can his right to confront his accuser right not be violated tho


[17-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
'During this probation he has agreed to not protest police searches that happen to lack a warrant.'


[17-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not everything needs a warrant


[17-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or even probable cause\


[17-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a term of his probation


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
that he cannot exercise his 4th amendment rights.


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Period.


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not make excuses for this.


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's fucked up


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Being part of probation is fucked up


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a whole year, he was not allowed to question ANY search by the police.


[17-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not everything super unconstitutional gets to SCOTUS.


[17-Apr-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i bet during that year, the police abused this to make his life hell


[17-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah this sort of thing is done for chilling effects.


[17-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It tells everyone in that state to never question a search.


[17-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if you do, and the police find a technicality to hang you on


[17-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will make an example of you too.


[17-Apr-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's NC


[17-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yep, as I suspected


[17-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's blakk


[17-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so is his GF


[17-Apr-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that just makes more sense


[17-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/05/18/2BFFCF1B00000578-3223533-image-a-43_1441472934882.jpg

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[17-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, AoC laws and similar are tools where you can very enforcement


[17-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
if he was white, he would've been let off with a warning.


[17-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, if he and his GF were white.


[17-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point was to teach blakk people to never question police authority.


[17-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-vetoes-resolution-to-end-us-participation-in-yemens-civil-war/2019/04/16/0fabc312-60a1-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html


[17-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
>“This resolution is an unnecessary, dangerous attempt to weaken my constitutional authorities, endangering the lives of American citizens and brave service members, both today and in the future,” Trump said in a statement.


[17-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
what


[17-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
we don't have service members in yemen


[17-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
unless we have special forces there, in which case trump's unfiltered mouth has put them in infinitely more risk than ending participation in the conflict would've


[17-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-yemen/trump-vetoes-congressional-resolution-to-end-us-involvement-in-yemen-war-idUSKCN1RS2GH

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Trump vetoes congressional resolution to end U.S. involvement in...
President Donald Trump has vetoed a congressional resolution that sought to end ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190417&t=2&i=1377694064&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF3G00I


[17-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
another thing is that the president doesn't have the power to declare war


[17-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that the partisan republicans are preventing congress from fulfilling one of its constitutional roles


[17-Apr-19 03:17 AM] ononim#8141
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[17-Apr-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
tfw US "liberals" unironically defend israel


[17-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439074-orourke-appears-to-have-underpaid-taxes-in-2013-and-2014

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[17-Apr-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
>In those two years, O'Rourke and his wife, Amy, reported a total of $15,718 in medical expense deductions. However, at the time, people under 65 could only take the deduction if their medical expenses exceeded 10 percent of their adjusted gross income, and the O'Rourkes' expenses didn't exceed that threshold.


[17-Apr-19 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
"Making fun of antivaxers never gets old -- just like their children"


[17-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Litrojia#0612
at this point it's more like "making fun of antivaxxers gets old, unlike their children" cause damn I've heard that joke a few too many times


[17-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Mikey#7286
It'll never get old so long as they exist and endanger us all


[17-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it has gotten old, to the point that they should start to face fines and ostracization for endangering the public


[17-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[17-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
These people seriously belong in prison and their children taken from them


[17-Apr-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm surprised they aren;t holding actual conventions... right?


[17-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Litrojia#0612
Fair, but maybe there's better ways of doing it than endless memes?


[17-Apr-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god is there an antivaxx con?


[17-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Litrojia#0612
prolly not


[17-Apr-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
There are measles parties


[17-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Mikey#7286
@Litrojia like what?


[17-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Litrojia#0612
Like actually confronting them?


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Litrojia#0612
Sharing pro-vaxx memes is usually just preaching to the choir anyways


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
People don't do that?


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
I wasn't aware


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Litrojia#0612
Dunno


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
Seriously though


[17-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm pretty sure people have tried


[17-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
You get the same results as trying to debate flat earthers


[17-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Aka


[17-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Uninformed retards


[17-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Litrojia#0612
Still more effective than memeing about anti-vaxxers among other pro-vaxxers


[17-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Who think they know what they're talking about


[17-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Not really


[17-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Litrojia#0612
When people share vaxx memes, it's not the anti-vaxxers who see them. It's just a feel-good solution


[17-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Mikey#7286
The only option is penalizing them by law


[17-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Litrojia#0612
I can get behind that


[17-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Mikey#7286
Arguing is the same result as debating creationists or evangelicals


[17-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
Fair enough, it's definitely not a great option but I still think it's more direct and effective than memes


[17-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
it's like a 1% success rate vs. 0


[17-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
(I just pulled those numbers out of my ass if you try to question me on them)


[17-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Mikey#7286
I mean


[17-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't think people meme about it with the intention of doing anything about them


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
You don't meme to change minds


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
You do it to laugh at shit


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
It's just overstayed its welcome


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Just like every other meme?


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
and a lot of them have kind of a smug attitude about it, like "my memes are helping the world!"


[17-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
but yeah, it does come down to me just not liking the memes


[17-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't think anyone actually thinks that


[17-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Mikey#7286
It's basically just laughing at braindead morons


[17-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-04-16-sony-says-metoo-streaming-behind-stricter-limits-on-sex-in-games

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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-04-16-sony-says-metoo-streaming-behind-stricter-limits-on-sex-in-games
Sony says #MeToo, streaming behind stricter limits on sex in games
Concerns over "legal and social action" against sexually explicit games have caused it to revamp guidelines on what it allows on its platforms
https://images.eurogamer.net/2019/articles/2019-04-16-19-23/senran.jpg


[17-Apr-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[17-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sony is saying that if it gave Japan loli games


[17-Apr-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it'd get shat on in China and the US and lose money


[17-Apr-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
@Macarou https://www.npr.org/2019/04/15/712249664/the-end-of-empathy

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https://www.npr.org/2019/04/15/712249664/the-end-of-empathy
The End Of Empathy
It's hard to be civil without being empathetic. But researchers say our natural instinct for empathy may be going out of style.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/04/15/invisibilia_empathy_wide-f244cd92580f2d0da3563438f80f4c15de702a95.jpg?s=1400


[17-Apr-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/barr-asylum-bail.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/barr-asylum-bail.html
In New Effort to Deter Migrants, Barr Withholds Bail to Asylum Seekers
Attorney General William Barr issued an order on Tuesday that could keep thousands of migrants in jail indefinitely while they wait for a resolution of their asylum request.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/16/us/16dc-immig1/16dc-immig1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
notice how the example used was on the extreme right


[17-Apr-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
the extreme right would consider "empathy" to be an insult


[17-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Macarou#9574
Why? That seems odd


[17-Apr-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's where the term "bleeding heart" came from to begin with


[17-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
empathy is also very much against the tenets of neoliberal capitalism (tl;dr make as much money as possible without considering the social and environmental costs)


[17-Apr-19 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
empathy gets in the way of making money


[17-Apr-19 08:29 AM] Macarou#9574
I've never heard the term Bleeding Heart before, but I am curious.   I see.


[17-Apr-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's not surprising that empathy as a whole is way on the decline compared to the 70's


[17-Apr-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Bleeding Heart Liberal" is a very old expression


[17-Apr-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
from the 30s IIRC


[17-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
considering that it's been neoliberals pushing their filth on the general populace


[17-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/origin-bleeding-heart-liberal

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The True Origins of the Phrase 'Bleeding-Heart Liberal'
Thank Westbrook Pegler, Joe McCarthy, and Ronald Reagan.
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[17-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[17-Apr-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals wanted a bill to outlaw lynching extra hard


[17-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives called them "bleeding hearts" to stigmatize them as dogmatic idiots


[17-Apr-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(implying that they adhered more to empathetic ideals than what actually matters: white power)


[17-Apr-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism gains massive benefits from an apathetic populace


[17-Apr-19 08:36 AM] Macarou#9574
I see. I was unaware  of such things.


[17-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/born-love/201005/shocker-empathy-dropped-40-in-college-students-2000

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Shocker: Empathy Dropped 40% in College Students Since 2000
If people don't even care about seeming uncaring, something's wrong.


[17-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[17-Apr-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kids spend all their time either in class


[17-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
on homework


[17-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
or in afterschool programs


[17-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't interact normally with other people.


[17-Apr-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they don't develop empathy.


[17-Apr-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Add on economic inequality and neoliberalism and woops


[17-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Macarou#9574
A completely apathetic populace. I see.


[17-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly


[17-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, empathy get's reserved


[17-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
only for the people you think matter for your "side"


[17-Apr-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the result is that everyone's fighting over brand loyalty, sports team, political party, etc.


[17-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody can come together to solve a problem, cause they attach to different pieces


[17-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's *worse* than being apathetic.


[17-Apr-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's caring, but in a negative manner.


[17-Apr-19 08:45 AM] Macarou#9574
I see. Could this situation be corrected?


[17-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would take time.


[17-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We would need to completely eviscerate after school programs and bring bakk recess to start


[17-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
destroy the focus on standardized tests


[17-Apr-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
completely restructure the voting system


[17-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
tax the rich and provide welfare...


[17-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's gonna take 40 years.


[17-Apr-19 08:47 AM] Macarou#9574
Restructure the voting system in what manner?


[17-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it so it doesn't force two parties


[17-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
which basically means IRV


[17-Apr-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
what about approval voting?


[17-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/16/judge-barr-mistrust-mueller-1278030

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/16/judge-barr-mistrust-mueller-1278030
Judge: Barr sowing public mistrust with Mueller report handling
"The attorney general has created an environment that has caused a significant part of the public … to be concerned," a district court judge said.
https://static.politico.com/e4/22/7bed07974b57b51c0fe58038fb66/190415-william-barr-ap-773.jpg


[17-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody implements it at a country level.


[17-Apr-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho it would be the best one to fix the problem.


[17-Apr-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/16/18410572/trump-fox-news-bernie-sanders-town-hall

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https://www.vox.com/2019/4/16/18410572/trump-fox-news-bernie-sanders-town-hall
Donald Trump really isn’t happy that Fox News hosted a town hall...
The president isn’t used to watching himself get attacked on his favorite channel.
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[17-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[17-Apr-19 08:52 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[17-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1117924843746361345

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jordan (@JordanUhl)
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1117924843746361345
Bret Baier just polled the Bernie Town Hall audience who would be willing to switch to #MedicareForAll. It backfired spectacularly. https://t.co/dQJ9gfQ137
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[17-Apr-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[17-Apr-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
trump's completely against medicare for all


[17-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118324360383746050

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118324360383746050
I believe it will be Crazy Bernie Sanders vs. Sleepy Joe Biden as the two finalists to run against maybe the best Economy in the history of our Country (and MANY other great things)! I look forward to facing whoever it may be. May God Rest Their Soul!
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[17-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
for trump, it would be like a brony tuning in to a new episode of my little pony and finding out that their waifu dies (or worse, gets a boyfriend)


[17-Apr-19 08:57 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[17-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118145749148209153

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118145749148209153
No Collusion - No Obstruction!
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[17-Apr-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
"If I repeat the same thing over and over again it'll become true!"


[17-Apr-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/16/republican-reject-democrat-vaccines-1361277

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/16/republican-reject-democrat-vaccines-1361277
Republicans reject Democratic attempts to tighten vaccine laws
The stakes are high: The U.S. is experiencing its worst measles outbreak in decades.
https://static.politico.com/ac/5b/cf8a06ee4933bc477744661200f4/190416-measles-vaccine-gty-773.jpg


[17-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
what the fuck


[17-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this is the hill they choose to die on, may the valley below run red with their blood.


[17-Apr-19 09:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i can't fucking believe there's even a debate on this shit


[17-Apr-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
vaccinate your kid or fucking stay home


[17-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Mikey, muh religious free dumbs


[17-Apr-19 10:16 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-Apr-19 12:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they don;t want mandatory vaccines, it goes back to cure vs treatment, why cure the disease when you can drain your patients like parasites out of all their money with ineffective treatments made of herbal remedies


[17-Apr-19 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-04-16-devolver-publishing-weedcraft-inc-has-been-a-nightmare

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Devolver: Publishing Weedcraft Inc "has been a nightmare"
Co-founder Mike Wilson says US marijuana tycoon title has been the hardest to bring to market due to industry resistance
https://images.eurogamer.net/2019/articles/2019-04-16-09-59/weedcraft_keyart_2560_1440_0be2f4077d48142264087f0c23f0847b_52613.jpg


[17-Apr-19 02:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Weed game bad. ✝


[17-Apr-19 02:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ciggarets and alcohol also bad


[17-Apr-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tobacco industry is a scary ass fucker


[17-Apr-19 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
hEAlth insurance https://i.redd.it/559vjskd3ts21.jpg

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[17-Apr-19 04:14 PM] DevField#5162

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[17-Apr-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Pay2win


[17-Apr-19 04:54 PM] DevField#5162
pay2live


[17-Apr-19 04:55 PM] ononim#8141
live2pay

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[17-Apr-19 06:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://imgur.com/gallery/T1RNbFj

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UK IP's will need ID proof to watch porn... the day of reckoning is here.
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[17-Apr-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
UK users can suck my nuts


[17-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Olivine Ellva#5797
Any of you have an opinion on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJKTodX1FA

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A Stable Genius
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Steamed Hams But It's Trump & Obama.
The Simpsons meme Steamed Hams but using Donald Trump and Barack Obama AI voices. All the voices were synthesized using an AI model trained on their speech p...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GuJKTodX1FA/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Olivine Ellva#5797
Someone trained an AI on Trump and Obama's voices. Currently only being used in his series of short comedy skits


[17-Apr-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Voice fakes are years old


[17-Apr-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
And are much more sophisticated than this today


[17-Apr-19 06:33 PM] Olivine Ellva#5797
Let me guess.. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between what's fake and what's real?


[17-Apr-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
correct


[17-Apr-19 06:35 PM] Olivine Ellva#5797
I imagine that the tech also isn't public


[17-Apr-19 06:35 PM] Olivine Ellva#5797
So you could just be lying


[17-Apr-19 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
it's available


[17-Apr-19 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Go look for research papers on it


[17-Apr-19 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
They have linked github repositories with trained machine models


[17-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47961425

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Peru's ex-president shoots himself
Alan García is in a serious condition after shooting himself as police arrived to arrest him.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/14B2/production/_106489250_tv053468488.jpg


[17-Apr-19 08:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK https://dai.ly/x2zhtlz

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Monty Python - A Tax on Thingy - video dailymotion
Monty Python - A Tax on Thingy
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[17-Apr-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://alternative-science.com/barr-says-no-evidence-of-fire-in-notre-dame-cathedral/

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Barr Says No Evidence of Fire in Notre Dame Cathedral
Contrary to what you may have seen or heard in the news, AG Barr says there is no evidence of fire at Notre Dame.
https://alternative-science.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Barr_Notre_Dame_Cathedral.jpg


[17-Apr-19 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1118578546429968384?s=21

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LIVE NOW: President Trump at the White House Opportunity Zones Conference https://t.co/whaCFJdEiK
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[17-Apr-19 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Let the roast begin


[17-Apr-19 09:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The government says that the law is to prevent children from accidentally stumbling across porn on the internet. When I went to pornhub as a teen I had no idea what I was in for.


[17-Apr-19 09:08 PM] Mikey#7286
Barr is retarded


[17-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://i.redd.it/xjhfk27cros21.jpg

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[17-Apr-19 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mayor dog for president 2020


[17-Apr-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is barr doing now?


[17-Apr-19 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sucking dick


[17-Apr-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds right


[17-Apr-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-almost-done-redacting-mueller-report

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Putin Almost Done Redacting Mueller Report
Quickly assembling a crisis team at the Kremlin to implement further redactions, Putin told his associates, “Put some coffee on, boys—it’s going to be a long night.”
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[17-Apr-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gizmodo.com/antivax-parents-sue-over-mandatory-vaccination-order-in-1834098993

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Antivax Parents Sue Over Mandatory Vaccination Order in New York (...
A group of five unnamed mothers are suing the city of New York, trying to get it to block a mandatory measles-mumps-rubella vaccination order city officials ordered earlier this month in specific ZIP codes in Brooklyn amid a major measles outbreak.
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[17-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/17/politics/trump-mueller-fallout/index.html

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'Don't cooperate:' One former Trump aide's lesson from Mueller probe
A former Trump administration official who cooperated with Robert Mueller's probe is having serious second thoughts about talking to the special counsel's office, citing concerns about being named in the Justice Department's redacted version of the report.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170518045236-donald-trump-robert-mueller-split-super-tease.jpg


[17-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
>This aide noted the White House requested that former senior officials cooperate with the Mueller probe, going as far as to hand over email addresses for those aides to investigators. That made it next to impossible to not cooperate, the aide said.


[17-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
>"Don't cooperate," the former official said, arguing it would have been better to refuse to cooperate and be compelled to talk to the grand jury instead, and perhaps have some protection in terms of not being identified in the report.


[17-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
>Another former White House aide said the strategy to let witnesses talk to Mueller was good for Trump as it helped him avoid being interviewed, but may not have been so good for the more than two dozen current and former White House officials who met with Mueller's team.


[18-Apr-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/17/18408685/andrew-yang-2020-president-democrat-candidate-policies-universal-basic-income-reddit-twitter the smear begins

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Andrew Yang is the candidate for the end of the world
He’s a fringe Democratic candidate who thinks automation is the country’s greatest threat
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[18-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's not a threat per se, it's just the future


[18-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
it's a threat to the status quo


[18-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
since if all the jobs are replaced with automation, there's no more market


[18-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
UBI is just to maintain the status quo


[18-Apr-19 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think neoliberals understand that if you automate away all the jobs then the economy will collapse


[18-Apr-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but in neo liberal wonderland, rampant homelessnes is a sign of a thriving economy!


[18-Apr-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Think of all the housing value wasted on people living in them, when they could be owned and abandoned by absentee landowners who never sell them!


[18-Apr-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while retail markets buy and sell their own products to themselves using robots


[18-Apr-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but seriously I dont think they understand that if they make everything run by robots you have no one spending money anymore except the elite who just run it in a cycle of worthlesness while calling it valuable.


[18-Apr-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while products get canned left and right because no one buys them because no one has money


[18-Apr-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1118591466853543936

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Pete Buttigieg Stuns Campaign Crowd By Speaking To Manufacturing Robots In Fluent Binary https://t.co/mUhT4sOUj5
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[18-Apr-19 01:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
01000110 01010101 01000011 01001011 01011001 01001111 01010101 00100001


[18-Apr-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
`010010010010011101101101001000000110100001101111011011100110111101110010011001010110010000100000011101000110111100100000011011010110010101100101011101000010000001110111011010010111010001101000001000000111001101110101011000110110100000100000011010000110000101110010011001000010110101110111011011110111001001101011011010010110111001100111001011000010000001110100011100100111010101100101001000000100000101101101011001010111001001101001011000110110000101101110011100110010111000100000`


[18-Apr-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
that is ascii binary for "I'm honored to meet with such hard-working, true Americans. "


[18-Apr-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
this is a high effort joke


[18-Apr-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Apr-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
"as president, I will never stop fighting for you.Despite our differences we all want freedom, democracy, and electricity. "


[18-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Someone should ask him about water 🙃


[18-Apr-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
r/waterniggas


[18-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
They don't like water or.large magnets


[18-Apr-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
join the large magnets party today!


[18-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
why is there no magnet emoji on discord >:V


[18-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
there are few joys as sweet as being heavily downvoted by hardore nazis when talking about the j word


[18-Apr-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because discord is secretly robots


[18-Apr-19 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbn-tmtuwfY

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Joel Craike
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South Park Movie - Bigger, Longer, and Uncut Clip: Swearing in Class
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[18-Apr-19 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
"Don't call me fat you fuckin' Jew"


[18-Apr-19 02:23 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
it's strange but the most petty political people always seem to gravitate towards excessive use of upvotes and downvotes.

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[18-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🧲 🤖


[18-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
you're square, so you're not there

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[18-Apr-19 05:08 AM] illumnious#7938
A reader's guide to Mueller's report on Trump https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/your-guide-mueller-s-report-trump-what-s-it-what-n995251

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Your guide to Mueller's report on Trump: What's in it, what's not ...
The long-awaited probe into the president is expected to be publicly released Thursday. Here's everything you need to know.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_16/2824256/190416-what-to-expect-mueller-cs-508p_20258fc54de1972233fbc9336feaef4e.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Apr-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-73-western-medias-narrow-colonial-definition-of-corruption

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Citations Needed Podcast
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-73-western-medias-narrow-colonial-definition-of-corruption
Episode 73: Western Media’s Narrow, Colonial Definition of "Corr...
"The scale of corruption in Africa is daunting," warns The Economist. "Corruption a Cause of Poverty in the Developing World," DW tells us. "Why corruption is holding Africa back," CNN laments. Everyw
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[18-Apr-19 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, could you imagine if the redacted report were mangled like that one time someone released a "classified" document that still had all the redacted text included in the pdf, someone had just placed black rectangle elements over them (which were easily removed in a pdf editor)...


[18-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly, if the house gets the full, unredacted report, it'll be leaked within a week


[18-Apr-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
they subpoenaed it


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
tbh this is one of those documents that needs to be leaked


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
there's probably a lot of really damning shit in there


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
it might not be prosecutable, but it's probably really shady


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Mikey#7286
if Trump is so exonerated and shit


[18-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Mikey#7286
and innocent


[18-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Mikey#7286
why are they making releasing the full report so hard


[18-Apr-19 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suppose, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the *republican* members of the gang of 8 leaked it and tried to pin the blame on Schiff like ***you see?***


[18-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Mikey#7286
it's almost as if they _have something to hide_


[18-Apr-19 06:53 AM] Mikey#7286
:thunk:


[18-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump: "I'm not racist" then why do you feel the need to keep repeating it over and over?


[18-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
hmmmmmmm?


[18-Apr-19 06:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if some right wingnut accuses the dems of leaking the report when they publicly release the *redacted report*


[18-Apr-19 06:55 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[18-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118548388352598016

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118548388352598016
Just had a wonderful conversation with @Pontifex Francis offering condolences from the People of the United States for the horrible and destructive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral. I offered the help of our great experts on renovation and construction as I did....
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[18-Apr-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA


[18-Apr-19 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
>Americans
>Knowing how to build anything besides McMansions, or concrete steel monstrosities


[18-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
Why do you hate America?


[18-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump exemplifies the stereotypical american tbh


[18-Apr-19 07:50 AM] Honahue#0656
^


[18-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Why%20do%20you%20hate%20America?>


[18-Apr-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
that would actually be a pretty good print out for that mug ad lol


[18-Apr-19 07:52 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[18-Apr-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/oQvjvYL.jpg

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[18-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
🌎 ❎


[18-Apr-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
🌎🚫


[18-Apr-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
🇺🇸🔥


[18-Apr-19 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/17/trump-bolton-sanctions-latin-america-1279709

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/17/trump-bolton-sanctions-latin-america-1279709
Trump crackdown on ‘3 stooges of socialism’ has 2020 thrust
John Bolton’s call to arms against socialism abroad is a message designed to resonate in 2020.
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[18-Apr-19 10:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/Vx94EfA3ZUw

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Robin Hood
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A las barricadas in spanish and english
Performed by Dandelion junk queens
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[18-Apr-19 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Apr-19 01:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A reminder, before the "Barr report" is released, the narrative we've pieced together from Mueller's public indictments. If the report differs from this significantly it'll be quite surprising https://apnews.com/2b8513d4a4224a559d7048edb396cdfd

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https://apnews.com/2b8513d4a4224a559d7048edb396cdfd
Court records reveal a Mueller report right in plain view
WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump was in full deflection mode. The Democrats had blamed Russia for the hacking and release of damaging material on his presidential opponent, Hillary Clinton....
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[18-Apr-19 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2ff1e53cfc9d42a7821c7f4e6a740642

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NKorea says it tested new weapon, wants Pompeo out of talks
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Thursday that it had test-fired a new type of "tactical guided weapon," its first such test in nearly half a year, and demanded that Washington remove...
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[18-Apr-19 02:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so, Trump's peace feelers were for nothing.


[18-Apr-19 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this is my shocked face.


[18-Apr-19 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:o


[18-Apr-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, Kim doesn;t give a fuck about peace. He just knows if he keeps pretending to play along, he gets an international platform to spout bullshit from


[18-Apr-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also knows Trump won;t stand up to him and call him out on his bullshit


[18-Apr-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a99d0b66de82494bb29ca16ec8443643

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https://apnews.com/a99d0b66de82494bb29ca16ec8443643
The Latest: Trump blasts Russia probe as 'political hoax'
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russia and President Donald Trump (all times local): 8:10 a.m. President Donald Trump is blasting the...
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[18-Apr-19 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's out


[18-Apr-19 06:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr lied about shit


[18-Apr-19 06:13 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm looking forward to this accomplishing nothing


[18-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course


[18-Apr-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, the toad of a toad lied about shit


[18-Apr-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
`Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm f***ed.`


[18-Apr-19 06:43 PM] Honahue#0656
Lol nah he's getting a second term


[18-Apr-19 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/uhsaywhatnow/status/1118910251317768192

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say what now? (@UhSayWhatNow)
https://twitter.com/uhsaywhatnow/status/1118910251317768192
don mcgahn outright states he quit because trump was engaging in the same obstruction that nixon did during the saturday night massacre 

#MuellerReport #ObstructionOfJustice #TrumpObstructed
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[18-Apr-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did trump actually say "End of my presidency... I'm fucked"?


[18-Apr-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a99d0b66de82494bb29ca16ec8443643

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The Latest: Barr to send less redacted version to Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russia and President Donald Trump (all times local): 12:35 p.m. Attorney General William Barr says a version...
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[18-Apr-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/48f9d5132d7a4e2d823edad8fc407979

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https://apnews.com/48f9d5132d7a4e2d823edad8fc407979
Trump tried to seize control of Mueller probe, report says
WASHINGTON (AP) — Public at last, special counsel Robert Mueller's report revealed to a waiting nation Thursday that President Donald Trump tried to seize control of the Russia probe and force...
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[18-Apr-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/mueller-report-release-william-barr-press-conference-trump-obstruction-of-justice.html

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William Barr: Trump’s Obstruction Was Legal Because He Was Since...
Trump believed the Russia investigation was a “witch hunt.” Therefore, his attempts to undermine it weren’t obstruction of justice, Barr explains.
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[18-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lel


[18-Apr-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's okay guys, I thought the police were lizards when I shot them, it's totes justified.


[18-Apr-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's okay, I was frustrated, so these iPhones I stole are fine.


[18-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller's testimony will be fun


[18-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
'At his news conference on Thursday morning, Mr. Barr said any campaign collusion with WikiLeaks could not amount to a criminal conspiracy because WikiLeaks’ publication of the emails was not a crime so long as it did not help Russia hacking them.'


[18-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
but this implies that Wikileaks didn't commit any crimes


[18-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and therefore you can't extradite Assange unless he literally gave Russia the passwords to Hillary's server or something.


[18-Apr-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look they want it both ways


[18-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't you get that?


[18-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but it'll bakkfire in the end.


[18-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You put Assange in jail, Trump goes in after him.


[18-Apr-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Doubt


[18-Apr-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one cares about this


[18-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/mcconnell-to-introduce-bill-for-a-minimum-age-to-buy-tobacco-of-21.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/mcconnell-to-introduce-bill-for-a-minimum-age-to-buy-tobacco-of-21.html
Sen. Majority Leader McConnell to introduce bill to raise the mini...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will introduce legislation to raise the federal minimum age to buy tobacco to 21 from 18.
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[18-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
that's kinda outta nowhere


[18-Apr-19 08:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://leningrad-oblast.tumblr.com/post/184276104266/zvaigzdelasas-beyblade-official]

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Huge, Sharp, New
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Huge, Sharp, New
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[18-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot on the left care about Trump clearly conspiring with Assange and the implication of it if Assange goes down, Its


[18-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's two birds with one stone.


[18-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow He may be trying to get good boy points from the left by sinking wounded big tobacco and hopping onboard the vape train


[18-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait


[18-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
it'll include e-cigs


[18-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not good


[18-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, what the fuck lol


[18-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
>My investments in health insurance/pharma companies provide a significant portion of my and numerous other americans' who actually work income


[18-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell's trying to shut down vaping


[18-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
over 50% of all investments in the US are owned by the top 1%


[18-Apr-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
the bottom 50% own 0.5% of all investments


[18-Apr-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh, I see the game


[18-Apr-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
so, vapes are growing primarily off of new customers, not old


[18-Apr-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
old people stikk with cigarettes for decades


[18-Apr-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And sometimes the age to buy tobacoo goes up, but not vaping stuff


[18-Apr-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
This undercuts cigarettes massively


[18-Apr-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
What McConnell is doing is making the playing field fair on age, in a way that hurts cigarettes the least


[18-Apr-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
cutting out the new vaping customers so they can't further make people on cigarettes switch by peer pressure


[18-Apr-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way, Big Tobacco can profit off of boomers a little longer


[18-Apr-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And since it's federal law, states can't just set a lower age


[18-Apr-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So California couldn't say it's okay to vape at 18


[18-Apr-19 08:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Big tabacy is already on the vape scene.


[18-Apr-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/maxkennerly/status/1118928891371040768

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Max Kennerly (@MaxKennerly)
https://twitter.com/maxkennerly/status/1118928891371040768
@nycsouthpaw Reading these together, Mueller is effectively saying "we concluded the President intentionally obstructed justice, but, because we can't indict him, we also can't say that explicitly in this report, and so we instead urge Congress to impeach him for it."
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[18-Apr-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell could just refuse a trial


[18-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-senate-decline-try-impeachment-case

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Can the Senate Decline to Try an Impeachment Case?
The Senate has a responsibility to do so—but not an express constitutional obligation. And in a time of disregard for established institutional practice and norms, the current leadership of the Senate could choose to abrogate them once more.
https://lawfare.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/staging/s3fs-public/Senate-Johnson-Impeachment-Trials.jpg


[18-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The short answer is "yes"


[18-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell can choose that the Senate doesn't hold a trial.


[18-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
All he needs is a slight procedural thing same as with all the "nuclear option" stuff, getting a ruling on what he can do


[18-Apr-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
(which is basically a rubberstamp)


[18-Apr-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
too bad that US citizens are too apathetic to bother revolting if mcconnell does that


[18-Apr-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
too busy just barely surviving on scraps to bother actually trying to force the issue


[18-Apr-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump Jr. was too dumb to prosecute lel


[18-Apr-19 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHCTt_FCabc
Tim Pool goes through the evidence to suggest we are living in Clown World

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHCTt_FCabc
The Culture War is A Clown World NIGHTMARE We Can't Escape
The Culture War is A NIGHTMARE We Can't Escape. This truly is a clown world. A world so insane that certainly it is being run as a joke. Absurd stories have ...
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[18-Apr-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nationalize Disney


[18-Apr-19 10:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
notto disu shitto agen


[18-Apr-19 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Culture war solved.


[18-Apr-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue can explain it better if he has time because he's writing about the topic.


[18-Apr-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney world government


[18-Apr-19 11:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Didn't Disney try to acquire Twitter, only to back out at the last minute because they discovered the platform was rife with abuse?
What are they gonna do with the entire world if they can't handle a website? :ponythinking:


[18-Apr-19 11:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/mueller-report-release-william-barr-press-conference-today-full-report-download-read-2019-04-18/

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Mueller report outlines Trump's attempts to assert control over Ru...
The special counsel detailed episodes in which President Trump's aides ignored or refused his directives to seize control of the investigation
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[18-Apr-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scribd.com/document/406726026/Mueller-report#from_embed

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Mueller report
Special counsel Robert Mueller's report
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[18-Apr-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know if it;s been posted here yet, but here;s the full thing


[19-Apr-19 12:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1118957387526832130?s=21

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[19-Apr-19 12:29 AM] illumnious#7938
:GWchadThonkery: :ponythinking:


[19-Apr-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for a Democratic president that hires people from CNN


[19-Apr-19 12:30 AM] illumnious#7938
:faceclaw: useless CNN


[19-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People get butthurt at technically correct things because "technically correct" doesn't _feel_ right


[19-Apr-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
so did Barr commit a crime


[19-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Misdirection at most


[19-Apr-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing congress is willing to move on at least


[19-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Won't move on this either


[19-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats may try


[19-Apr-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yertle Mcturtle will get in the way of everything if thye try to brign a vote


[19-Apr-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
a "no" would have sufficed


[19-Apr-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[19-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
What crime are you reffering to in regards to Barr


[19-Apr-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
basically how he retracted all of his statements after releasing his "summary" of the Mueller report a few weeks ago


[19-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Writing a shitty summary isn't illegal


[19-Apr-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
IIRC it was suspected that he did this because he was indicted by a grand jury or by federal investigators


[19-Apr-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anything resembling a trial will likely only happen after trump either get's foisted out of office by the elections, or until he's served his 8 years if he wins 2020


[19-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Barr did *should* be a crime.


[19-Apr-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Barr threw the entire DoJ under a bus to protect trump, He wasn;t hired to be attorney general, he was hired to be a personal attorney in the spot of an attorney general


[19-Apr-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
judging from Barr's history of this bullshit, He should have been in jail decades ago


[19-Apr-19 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/zei_nabq/status/1112036006541344768

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wow, Buttigieg actually uses the alt-right propaganda term "social justice warrior" in his book to shit on activists fighting for a living wage for janitors and food workers https://t.co/bjH1B5GgwF
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[19-Apr-19 01:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if we start making summaries a crime. most statements would be held under such scrutiny that most wouldn't hold up to it.


[19-Apr-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They shoudl be held to such scrutiny, a summary of a report this important should be held to the highest standards of honesty and transparency


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] ononim#8141
Hot take: buttjigiegihg entered the race solely to make Beto look better


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think it more or less was.


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the investigation was done and not inturrupted


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the full report is out


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
with only some redaction


[19-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
we are now free to judge it on it's own merits


[19-Apr-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed, though before it released, Barr tried sevweral times to play cover up, threw the DoJ under the bus, called this investigation "illegal spying", and tried to give control of the report itself to trump


[19-Apr-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Barr's intention with the summary was to tell the media that the president didn't do any obstructing and in doing so he damaged the integrity of the DOJ and stuck his neck out personally for the president


[19-Apr-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Whereas from the report we know that's not true


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim Pete Buttcheek


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's out now, but that;s because the house fought to obtain it


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the integrity of the DOJ was already damaged


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it were up to barr it would have likely been shredded the minute it hit his desk


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The AG should not be able to mischaracterize findings to the American people to try to protect the president after he breaks the law.


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well it's hard to say what Barr would or Would not do


[19-Apr-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
who cares?


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
this is what he _did_


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah he released a summery like what most AG's do


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
in 5 years no one will remember Barr's summery


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what they will remember is the report itself


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we aren;t 5 years in the future


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
unless barr's indicted lmao


[19-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure people will remember the crazy AG who literally said the president can't ever commit crimes


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless the statutory text specifically mentions the president


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which no statutary text does)


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
trying to redirect away from the argument itself, which was that Barr's actions were intended to protect the president


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
AG's have said worse in the past.


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they hav not


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
not that "it will be forgotten in 5 years"


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
this is now


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is absolutely ridiculous


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
some from the 19th century said some wild things


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and early 20th


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There's also the fact that the meuller team gave Barr a summary thye made themselves to release to th epublic


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav an AG who believes the presiden can legally obstruct justice


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he scrubbed it


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that it's not obstruction of justice if you aren't convicted of the crime you were investigated for


[19-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is absolutely insane


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point of obstruction of justice as an offense is to prevent people taking action that could prevent conviction and profiting from it


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say I stab someone, but there's one piece of crucial evidence you can't convict me without


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I call up the police chief and convince him to throw it in the garbage


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just got away with murder


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"His obstruction was legal because he was sincerly paranoid" were barr;s words i beleive


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
W-what


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction of justice is the crime to put me in jail for doing something to not get away with murder.


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[19-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh god how did his law school fail him so much


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He went to NYU I believe


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr's reasoning is


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
that since Trump believed there was nothing to the investigation besides a witch hunt


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was valid to obstruct it


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's on top of the other two reasons I just went over


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Again no one will care what Barr said in a few years.


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So if I truly believe that the government trying to prosecute me for heroin is a witch hunt


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like truly believe it


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't about in a few years


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
this is about _now_


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then it's cool?


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
stop trying to redirect the argument


[19-Apr-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is the present


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not the future


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not redirecting it


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
no, that is redirecting it


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr believes that:
1 The president cannot be found guilty of obstruction of justice
2 You cannot be found guilty if you seemed to believe you were innocent
3 You cannot be found guilty if the crime the police were investigating you for you aren't convicted on


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the future will do what the future does, what matters is what we do about it now and not ij  5 years


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
all three of these things are utterly insane and fly in the face of any sane legal reasoning


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr will be remembered


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
as the man who said the president is above the law


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why the DoJ standard is wrong


[19-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to try to stop prosecution of really, really obvious obstruction of justice.


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should be able to indict a sitting president


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is zero argument against it


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the textbooks are written, they'll talk about Trump, a few cronies, and Barr.


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And probably McConnell if he tries to stop impeachment.


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which he likely will)


[19-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm just saying that what Barr said is his opinion be it wrong or right it's still his thoughts and words. it's minor in the greater scheme of things going on. i'm more concerned with what's IN the report than what some other person said.


[19-Apr-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He is in a positiont hat holds a lot of weight with opinions and thoughts, yes thye matter


[19-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the classic thing where someone putting in place a plant to protect themselves is totes irrelevant when said plant tries to stop the actual info coming out


[19-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, that's kind of what obstruction is about to begin with


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Barr is trump's latest obstruction attempt


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not supposed to put corrupt officials under you in the way of you getting caught.


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
AG's come and go. Jeff Sessions didn't last long and I don't expect Barr will either. I wouldn't be surprised if Rudy Guliani will be the next AG


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr's actions could actually be put as conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice.


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Barr is very much a part of any obstruction charges Trump cna be put under


[19-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump goes down, Barr could go down with him.


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Jeff sessions didnt last logn because he wasn;t trumps toady


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Providing a misleading summary of AN INVESTIGATION INTO YOUR BOSS is not okay.


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Sessions refused to play obstructionist and got booted for it


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you are given responsibilities like this


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to be extra damn careful


[19-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Trump sure took his long time to do it if that was his only reason to boot Jeff


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav an insane legal opinion


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
you should tamper it and say very little.


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
psker, there's a statutory limit on how long an acting cabinet member can be in for


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump booted Jeff right away, Barr would've had to be replaced by now


[19-Apr-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has stated he prefers acting members because they're more flexible.


[19-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump timed things on puprose to get Barr in late so that Barr could spend the maximum amount of time shilling for Trump.


[19-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are quite serious concerns now about the amount of acting cabinet members


[19-Apr-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally you're supposed to appoint replacements and get them confirmed by the Senate.


[19-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statutory limits on how long you can hav acting ones exist to prevent this very situation


[19-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they clearly aren't enuff.


[19-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
forgive me if i doubt that Trump had that much foresight and forward planning to specifically sack Jeff and have Barr for the exact duration and time.


[19-Apr-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well he likely had help in plannign this shit out as well


[19-Apr-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is far from alone in this obstruction plot


[19-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Barr has at least been confirmed.


[19-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Trump could've easily kept him acting for longer if necessary.


[19-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statutory time is like 2/3rd of a year


[19-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's plenty of time to chekk whether the Senate'll confirm them


[19-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
but on the offchance they wouldn't, you hav to do it somewhat late.


[19-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr was a great choice considering his previous actions in the same role.


[19-Apr-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran-Contra.


[19-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr helped in Bush pardoning people for their role in illegal weapons sales and coverups.


[19-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan went full "I'm too senile to be prosecuted"


[19-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is Oliver North not in prison though


[19-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later, Barr made sure "Iraqgate" didn't see any prosecutions by refusing to appoint a special counsel


[19-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[19-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav been super corrupt since Reagan


[19-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Barr has served well for them.


[19-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they aren't breaking the law or covering up previous lawbreaking by the last Republican, they aren't in office.


[19-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic administrations hardly do shit. Pretty much the most Obama's did was get the IRS to hassle political groups.


[19-Apr-19 01:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nazi Pug man joins party of "very fine people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNFi9VUeqWo

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[19-Apr-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans meanwhile either sell weapons to our enemies, pay money to dictators to shoot liberals, falsify reasons to go to war, or find some new and interesting way to be scummy and spend years keeping people out of jail that should be in it.


[19-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, if the founding fathers saw the modern Republican party


[19-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Bill of Rights would include some crazy anti-corruption shit


[19-Apr-19 01:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6936259/Ukip-leader-Batten-appears-alongside-rape-tweet-EU-election-candidate-chaotic-campaign-launch.html

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Carl Benjamin - also known as YouTube personality Sargon of Akkad - said: 'If a woman is being giant b*tch and laughing at male suicide, I'm going to be a giant d*ck back to her.'
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[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The big mistake was allowing countries to leave the EU


[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, pretty sure they would make it so the judiciary branch can do special counsel stuff at the behest of congress


[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And allowing Euroskeptic parties


[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be like the US in this regard.


[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And add in stuff to do recall elections


[19-Apr-19 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Texit referendum when?


[19-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with something very explicitly against political parties.


[19-Apr-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really wish they had included a section for explicit rules agaisnt forming political parties


[19-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Next constitutional amendment


[19-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Needs to neuter the presidency


[19-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too powerful


[19-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neuter the Senate Majority Leader too


[19-Apr-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we can ever even amke soemthing leik that happen


[19-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
ffs he can just shut down voting on legislation


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that shit shouldnt work witohut some form of fail safe


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An Executive Council might be better


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just three or four people


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate should be allowed to hold a vote to veto his denial


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"but Rome did that" lolno


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit wouldn't be Rome


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem, Intexda


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing should work liek rome


[19-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
is he controls all votes, basically


[19-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the average senator has like no power but to vote


[19-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
motions are concentrated around the leader of each party


[19-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
this furthers party power and really fukks with legislating


[19-Apr-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I;m half surprised no one in congress or senate has violently tried to start a fight


[19-Apr-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They must be super pissed off by now


[19-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's rules against it


[19-Apr-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
such a rule was used when Elizabeth Warren tried to call out a judicial nominee for being previously rejected for being explicitly racist.


[19-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate just plain forced her to shut up.


[19-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause there's no chekks on when the rule is invoked


[19-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just submit a motion that so and so is likely to provoke offense, and everyone votes


[19-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Buttigieg thing is not that bad


[19-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything it makes people like him more


[19-Apr-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m surprised no one is talking about Yang


[19-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots are


[19-Apr-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i barely know about him outside of the UBI thing


[19-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw the appeal presented as "Lots who like him are miserable and hate their life but figure they might as well get 12k a year for it"


[19-Apr-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I;m in support of it because i kind of need a l;eg to stand on before i can do job searches for a non living wage


[19-Apr-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff i misread that as 12k a month


[19-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Apr-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An album cover


[19-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Plonkett#6636
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[19-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Plonkett#6636
some shithead on the Notre Dame catherdral burning


[19-Apr-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
who cares about $RANDOM_ASSHOLE


[19-Apr-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
unless this is like some high ranking WH official... why does it matter


[19-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Litrojia#0612
pretty sure I've seen one of those "just let them build a fucking mosque" folks on Discord


[19-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Plonkett#6636
this guy sounds more like an alt-righter


[19-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol calm down


[19-Apr-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Didn't some republican guy on fox news say if the fire in France was started by a Muslim that they would not even here about it? This was before the fire was even put out at the time and even before it was speculated as an accident.


[19-Apr-19 03:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What the fuck was he thinking? They would just pretend that there was never a cathedral there in the first place? It was all Disney fantasy?


[19-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you choose


[19-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Save him from what?


[19-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
if I don't save him, does he get AOC's feet pics


[19-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo deleted a lot of these early today


[19-Apr-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Day one of being able to share things


[19-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/568553679708356610/unknown-2.png

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[19-Apr-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
this comment section is incredibly unrealistic


[19-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's usually 90% alt-righters popping off about how great trump is and how shitty anything left of center is


[19-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
oh nvm, that's not youtube


[19-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
I don't have a facebook account, and it looked somewhat similar to a youtube video


[19-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
idk what facebook posts usually look like in the comments, but any sort of video like that on youtube gets downvote bombed and trolled into oblivion by a ton of alt-righters


[19-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally none of these people exist


[19-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't even worth talking about given what happened with the report today


[19-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President obstructed justice but who cares, here's this meme we can fight about


[19-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/OlosAWu.mp4

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https://imgur.com/OlosAWu
littering asshole gets owned!
https://i.imgur.com/OlosAWuh.jpg


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
how about this poor oppressed motorist


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
not free to throw out his trash where ever without anyone calling out his bullshit


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
unlike MURICA


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
where he can THROW HIS TRASH OUT and NOT EXPECT TO BE OPPRESSED FOR IT!!!


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


[19-Apr-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
🔫🔫🔫🔫


[19-Apr-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
(reminder that alt-righters equate ostracization to extermination)


[19-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
also @Itsthinking, everything else doesn't stop existing just because a major event happened, nothing we talk about in here is going to have an effect on the overall outcome of the investigation


[19-Apr-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow that image is conservative outrage bait


[19-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
I know lol


[19-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
I thought that was youtube


[19-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
because on youtube, it's always the opposite


[19-Apr-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, better, check out the comments lmao https://imgur.com/gallery/fHcBlIZ

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Unpopular opinion
https://i.imgur.com/1pJjkzeh.jpg


[19-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty simple, just a fallacy that we can compare dog's lives with humans as an assumed premise


[19-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/fHcBlIZ/comment/1633655205>


[19-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then on top of that that the purpose of it is revenge (it is not, we put down dogs because nobody would want them)


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
>Alright man, you're cracked. Have a good one, if society ran how you wanted we'd all be dead already from blood-feuds...
>Except it wouldn't. Human society operated reliably for thousands of years without this being a question.


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically the standard "what do you mean you'd REHABILITATE CRIMINALS? SOME OF THEM MURDERED KIDS" argument.


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
what a fucking idiot


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
research has indeed shown that if death penalty has any effect


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's in making murder happen a bit more


[19-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause then killing someone is seen as okay cause gov't does it.


[19-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, lots of people believe in that argument.


[19-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hard.


[19-Apr-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[19-Apr-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the purpose is revenge


[19-Apr-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why relax the execution to the state


[19-Apr-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have the victim's family shoot them execution style


[19-Apr-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if they have no family?


[19-Apr-19 05:25 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Then the state takes action


[19-Apr-19 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the purpose is enforcing law, why do what the criminal did to the criminal themselves?


[19-Apr-19 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the state did it outside of this, then it would be bad


[19-Apr-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dogs are property and not citizens holy shit is that post real


[19-Apr-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
...hav you ever argued with people who are against criminal rehabilitation?


[19-Apr-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what they seriously believe, Its.


[19-Apr-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Treating people like dogs.


[19-Apr-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the decline in empathy, as well.


[19-Apr-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
SELECTIVE EMPATHY


[19-Apr-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They think dogs are better than people


[19-Apr-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But not like in the meme context


[19-Apr-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They care more about pit bulls than minorities treated poorly


[19-Apr-19 05:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~If dogs are better than people, then why can't they consent~~ 🤔 :ponythinking: 🤔


[19-Apr-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
FBI open up


[19-Apr-19 05:31 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I guess that for some people justice is all about revenge.... tbh i sometimes agree with them, but is normally when my emotions are talking, not my brain....


[19-Apr-19 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Dogs don't exact petty revenge


[19-Apr-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Empathy is not necessarily a good or bad thing to lose


[19-Apr-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes emotions muddy things


[19-Apr-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's why I thought it was shitposty to begin with lol


[19-Apr-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
India watch out https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-human-poop-problem-2019-4

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People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco
In 2011, just over 5,500 reports feces in public were logged by the San Francisco Department of Public Works; in 2018, the number was more than 28,000.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5cb8baa3c3b0891fda444d1e-2732-1366.jpg


[19-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homeless people not allowed in restaurants to poop.


[19-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw I was in San Francisco briefly in 2012


[19-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's what happens when you have unmitigated homelessness and no public restrooms


[19-Apr-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
saw someone piss onto the street in the rain


[19-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WiFiWitch


[19-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Litrojia#0612
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118876219381026818

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Twitter


[19-Apr-19 05:39 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
?


[19-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
See above


[19-Apr-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, didn't HBO previously sue Trump over this exact thing?


[19-Apr-19 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[19-Apr-19 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hasnt stopped him before


[19-Apr-19 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had an entire tweet removed by warner for breaking copyright law


[19-Apr-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he'll probably do it again without hesitation just to make himself look better to himself


[19-Apr-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know that these break copyright at all


[19-Apr-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This one, maybe not. The previous one paraphrased the "winter is coming" tagline though


[19-Apr-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
That's not copyrightable


[19-Apr-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I imagine it could be trademarked


[19-Apr-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
But even then I don't know


[19-Apr-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47960798

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Iran's first female boxer 'fears arrest'
Sadaf Khadem believes she could be held for breaking Iran's dress code during a bout in France.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/A530/production/_106488224_mediaitem106488220.jpg


[19-Apr-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how do you even become a female boxer in iran with that kind of moral policing


[19-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
>An Iranian who became the first woman from her country to contest an official boxing match says she has cancelled her return home from France after hearing a warrant had been issued for her arrest.


[19-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
TIL, how limited gun control research is in America


[19-Apr-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It's gimped by the govt


[19-Apr-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
NRA makes sure no NSF grant money can ever go to scientists who research it


[19-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the font I think, @byte[]


[19-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
All I could find on gun control research was how there was no definition for "mass shootings" and a study based on international research


[19-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress authorized the CDC to study gun control this year.


[19-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll take a while before that bears fruit.


[19-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
That would be interesting to read about


[19-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
According to the study I read, introducing multiple laws simultaneously restricting guns does trend in a reduction of gun deaths


[19-Apr-19 05:58 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
But America will never do such a thing federally


[19-Apr-19 05:59 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Can I link to the PDF I found the study in?


[19-Apr-19 06:02 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html


[19-Apr-19 06:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let's just liquidate gun culture as the source of fetishization.


[19-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/eHwFTpa.jpg

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[19-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
>nala, the woman


[19-Apr-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
bruh she's a cat


[19-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/obstruction-charge-trump-mueller/index.html

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Mueller had everything he needed to charge Trump with obstruction,...
If Robert Mueller wanted to charge President Donald Trump with obstruction, he found all he needed to do it.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170613110556-trump-mueller-split-3-super-tease.jpg


[19-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if he did this specifically to leave it open for after he leaves office


[19-Apr-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
when he's basically a sitting duck for prosecution


[19-Apr-19 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The report makes it pretty clear that the special counsel couldn't make a prosecutorial decision, merely choose to exonerate or not. I can't say yes or no but it's definitely not no, in other words


[19-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He left it to Congress


[19-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which will do nothing


[19-Apr-19 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Lion King is just furry Hamlet


[19-Apr-19 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Congress would do something if McConnell didn't have them by the balls


[19-Apr-19 06:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even a token impeachment vote would mean something


[19-Apr-19 06:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He wouldn't even give them the satisfaction


[19-Apr-19 06:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guarantee he'd rather let his career end than let this go to a vote


[19-Apr-19 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He does appear to be "carefully reviewing" the report, though


[19-Apr-19 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Could you imagine if they ignore Trump and McConnell introduces a vote to impeach Barr instead for his misconduct


[19-Apr-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
cohen 2.0


[19-Apr-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell either way will try to ignore any House movement towards impeachment.


[19-Apr-19 08:04 AM] Theadora Keshtah#0351
thoughts on pit bulls?


[19-Apr-19 08:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/student-loan-debt-forgiveness-college-bernie

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As President, Bernie Should Cancel All Student Debt
The billions of dollars in student loan debt are an economic and moral crisis. Bernie Sanders should promise to wipe it all out.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/16221137/GettyImages-1543584.jpg


[19-Apr-19 08:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
C l e a n   t h e   d e b t   s l a t e


[19-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/challenge-nyc-measles-vaccination-order-dismissed-judge-n996186

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Judge defends mandatory measles vaccination in NYC emergency decla...
"Vaccination is known to extinguish the fire of contagion," Judge Lawrence Knipel wrote, dismissing legal challenge.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_15/2815266/190409-bill-de-blasio-measles-cs-1237p_293fe5c9577353348b4b517bc681344d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[19-Apr-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
take that, idiots


[19-Apr-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
>A judge dismissed a lawsuit Thursday that challenged an emergency declaration in New York City requiring residents of certain neighborhoods affected by a measles outbreak to receive mandatory vaccinations.


[19-Apr-19 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/438990-senate-bill-seeks-to-bring-freedom-back-to-banking

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Senate bill seeks to bring freedom back to banking
The Freedom Financing Act will prohibit bank access to bailed-out taxpayer-funded insurances if they discriminate against law-abiding firearms businesses.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/ar1506142016getty.jpg


[19-Apr-19 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
"freedom"


[19-Apr-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my little murica: freedom is guns


[19-Apr-19 02:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/america-war-guns-gif-4926140

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https://media.tenor.co/images/205e4c0fb34df4e2692071f507a5f9c0/raw


[19-Apr-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/freedom-freedoms-loudly-murica-gif-7666222

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[19-Apr-19 03:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://preview.redd.it/0kqux6cm07t21.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9729838ebc8f5b4d020eb472768365b20e7684b3

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[19-Apr-19 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/18/new-mexico-migrants-armed-militia-detained

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/18/new-mexico-migrants-armed-militia-detained
Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexic...
The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law
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[19-Apr-19 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
>Armed rightwing militia members detained a large group of migrants at the US-Mexico border and coordinated with US border patrol agents to have them arrested, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, in a series of actions the civil liberties organization called a “kidnapping” and a flagrant violation of the law.


[19-Apr-19 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's endgame now, the fascists are starting to organize


[19-Apr-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
>In recent years, there has been a reported surge in paramilitary groups and xenophobic activists having a presence at the border in an effort to target undocumented people.


[19-Apr-19 04:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
Fuck.


[19-Apr-19 04:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
That's straight up fascism


[19-Apr-19 04:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
And they're... Getting away with it aren't they?


[19-Apr-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep...


[19-Apr-19 04:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
How can people claim to care so much about freedom and just take that away from others they deem lesser


[19-Apr-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and any attempt to arrest and charge thme will likely be met with trump pardonign the whole fucking lot of them


[19-Apr-19 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
Just as much a farce as their 'free speech'


[19-Apr-19 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
I see leftists getting banned and deplatformed, no centrists or right wingers fighting for their free speech


[19-Apr-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's nationalism in a nutshell


[19-Apr-19 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
Its happening more and more too


[19-Apr-19 04:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
Twitter banned Boots Riley for actively being against the Venezuelan coup


[19-Apr-19 04:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
Boots Riley, a well known communist African American  rapper and movie director for Sorry to Bother You


[19-Apr-19 04:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like not some literally who


[19-Apr-19 04:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
He's not super well known, but still


[19-Apr-19 04:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
The establishment is deplatforming and banning leftists, we just don't get free speech warriors crying and defending us


[19-Apr-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nationalism is more or less "We don;t have to make things better for us, we just have to make it worse for everyone else so we look better by comparison"


[19-Apr-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it ties perfectly into a fascist regime strategy


[19-Apr-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wonder what life would be like if 9/11 never happened


[19-Apr-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
bush would've been a great peacetime president


[19-Apr-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really would have


[19-Apr-19 05:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow >militiamen cooperating with the government


[19-Apr-19 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So much for supposedly hating and distrusting the government, amirite


[19-Apr-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to them the republicans are the anti government who are the only ones thye can trust


[19-Apr-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which makes no fucking sense


[19-Apr-19 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How can these people be so damn divorced from reality? Jesus.


[19-Apr-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/you-told-me-to-video-shows-charlotte-police-officer-kill-man-following-orders-to-drop-gun/941371628

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‘You told me to': Video shows Charlotte police officer kill man ...
Danquirs Napoleon Franklin, 27, was shot to death March 25 in a Burger King parking lot.
https://media-ncd.cmgdigital.com/photo/2019/04/18/Video_Shows_Charlotte_Police_Officer_Kil_0_15054277_ver1.0_640_360.jpg


[19-Apr-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i sit in a classroom full of them, it;s really fucking strange to witness in person


[19-Apr-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Obviously, he was black, so his life is irrelevant


[19-Apr-19 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Don't shoot him, he's not black!"


[19-Apr-19 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
I linked a liveleak of this a few days ago iirc


[19-Apr-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/567774600717664283


[19-Apr-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
guy had a gun apparently, was squatting down next to his car, cops came up and told him a bunch of times to put the gun down, he puts the gun down, they shoot him
he incredulously says "but I put it down..." before slumping over dead
the moral of the story is that police will shoot you whether you comply with them or not


[19-Apr-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s9OQS_1555428818

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s9OQS_1555428818
Liveleak.com - usa female cop shoots  and kills armed male !
charlotte-mecklenburg police shot danquirs franklin  not so sure on th..
https://ne1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/80281E/ll_as_u1/misc/ll3/ma_content.png


[19-Apr-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/police-shooting-video-arizona.html there's also this in this vain of effect

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By VIVIAN WANG
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/police-shooting-video-arizona.html
Video Shows Daniel Shaver Pleading for His Life Before Being Shot ...
The video, released after an Arizona jury acquitted the officer of murder, renewed calls for reforms in law enforcement. Activists described the shooting as an execution.
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[19-Apr-19 05:38 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that guy wasn't even black


[19-Apr-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s fucking disturbing


[19-Apr-19 06:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
that guy was fuckin retarded


[19-Apr-19 06:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cop told hid DO NOT FUCKIN MOVE HIS HANDS several times


[19-Apr-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[19-Apr-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
@Smug Trixie, which one are you talking about?


[19-Apr-19 06:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
one who's dead


[19-Apr-19 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't the channel to be trolling about that kind of stuff in


[19-Apr-19 06:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
trolling?


[19-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude how hard it is to obey officer commands when he told you several times if u do x u get shoot


[19-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
there were two videos linked, one is the guy in the parking lot, one is the guy in the hallway


[19-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
saying "one who's dead" has literally no meaning when the question was "which one are you talking about?"


[19-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
one that heaven beetle send


[19-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck are you talking about? he followed all the commands up until he was given a bunch of contradictory commands where you couldn't follow one without breaking the other


[19-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
they gave him 5 different commands simultaneously, doing one of which would prevent him from following the other 4


[19-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
so he started sobbing and just started crawling towards him (one of their 5 commands)


[19-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
while begging them to not shoot him


[19-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
the whole situation was fucked up to begin with


[19-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
they should've apprehended the guy while he was down on the ground, not force him to play simon says


[19-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[19-Apr-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a no win scenario where it seems like murder was the intent


[19-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
"HANDS UP STRAIGHT IN THE AIR" \*hands go straight up\*
"YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA FALL YOU BETTER FALL ON YOUR FACE" (there's something actually fucking wrong with you if you think this is an okay thing to order someone to do at gunpoint, that's literally fucking torture)
"CRAWL TOWARDS ME" (THIS ACTUALLY FUCKING CONTRADICTS HANDS UP STRAIGHT IN THE AIR, YOU CAN'T GET AROUND THIS) \*crawling starts\*


[19-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
@Smug Trixie, so what's your point?


[19-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
literally nothing in this video should be happening to begin with


[19-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
there's no fucking point beyond seemingly sadistic glee in ordering someone else to do something


[19-Apr-19 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
this guy's drunk btw


[19-Apr-19 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
and getting incredibly emotional due to the fact they're psychologically torturing him with contradicting orders


[19-Apr-19 06:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-cause-computer-glitch-rector-today-2019-04-19-live-updates/

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"Computer glitch" may have caused Notre Dame Cathedral fire, recto...
Architects, construction workers trying to figure out how to stabilize Notre Dame, protect it from the elements
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[19-Apr-19 06:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Useless news article


[19-Apr-19 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
then why'd you link it lol


[19-Apr-19 06:40 PM] illumnious#7938
I have no idea


[19-Apr-19 06:41 PM] illumnious#7938
But that was on my phone


[19-Apr-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Apr-19 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
This is the most  abomination news article I’ve ever seen in my life


[19-Apr-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the one you linked?


[19-Apr-19 06:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Yep


[19-Apr-19 06:44 PM] illumnious#7938
A drivers license is a gun?


[19-Apr-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Guy at traffic stop pulls out license?


[19-Apr-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-south-carolina-shooting/ex-south-carolina-trooper-sent-to-prison-for-shooting-unarmed-black-motorist-idUSKCN1AV28J

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Ex-South Carolina trooper sent to prison for shooting unarmed black...
A former South Carolina state trooper will serve a total of five years behind ba...
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[19-Apr-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Gun, shoot him


[19-Apr-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
one of the very very very few times that a police officer actually goes to prison for an unjustified shooting


[19-Apr-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
it's likely that he only went to prison because the guy he shot survived


[19-Apr-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gocOReUs0js

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Talk Real Solutions
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Dash Cam video of South Carolina Trooper Sean Groubert shooting Le...
Judge Casey Manning sentenced Sean Groubert to 12 years in prison suspended to 5 years and 3 years suspended with credit for time served. http://www.wmbfnews...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gocOReUs0js/hqdefault.jpg


[19-Apr-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck was that officer on holy shit


[19-Apr-19 06:50 PM] Crow#5457
"Why did you shoot me?"
"You did exactly what I told you to do a little more quickly than I anticipated"

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[19-Apr-19 06:50 PM] DevField#5162
Nobody:
Murican Cops: *SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER*


[19-Apr-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ugh


[19-Apr-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why must Murican cops be such power-obsessed pricks


[19-Apr-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The massive decentralization leading to poor standards and factionalization, and the decades long massive hardon for military and cowboy shit


[19-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus the whole "guns are everywhere" thing


[19-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a cultural problem not a gun one


[19-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
America has racism and masculinity problems super badly


[19-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, but guns are everywhere


[19-Apr-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That means the criminal you're chasing could very much likely have a gun


[19-Apr-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That means you can fear for your life, or excuse yourself by stating so


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's basically a ruined excuse now


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's racial


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cops in europe could have 120% the machismo and shit of US ones, but due to the rarity of guns, "I feared for my life" would barely ever fly


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't fear American police if you're white


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tell that to the white drunk guy


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
How about police militarization too


[19-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[19-Apr-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Literally swat teams get spare military equipment


[19-Apr-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Police put up with so much shit even for white people breaking the law


[19-Apr-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
And the cops like to call in swat for all drug raids


[19-Apr-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Even if there's no perceivable threat


[19-Apr-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People won't fight against it


[19-Apr-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people are quite frankly blood thirsty and wish for vigilantism


[19-Apr-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a generational thing I've found


[19-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time I think I've seen peak stupid, kyle makes a post


[19-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, that's literally happening right now lol https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/18/new-mexico-migrants-armed-militia-detained

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Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexic...
The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law
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[19-Apr-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know


[19-Apr-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ej-bradford-was-killed-police-being-black-male-gun-owner-ncna943006

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Opinion | What becoming an NRA-certified instructor taught me abou...
I spent hours becoming so proficient that the National Rifle Association awarded me instructor status. Here's why I don't carry a gun in public.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_05/2663336/181129-emantic-bradford-alabama-mall-shooting-cs-1143a_74882bc8030fa45d7874d10c532e09fe.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[19-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr


[19-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's not because guns are everywhere


[19-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically every American tested shows extreme biases, perceiving even 13-year-old blakk boys as adult, threatening, gangster individuals that police must shoot to stop.


[19-Apr-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
>The Journal of Personality and Social Psychology published a study in 2014 that showed black boys as young as 10 are more likely to be thought of as older and guiltier of crimes. They are also likelier to be victims of police violence than their white peers. "The evidence shows that perceptions of the essential nature of children can be affected by race, and for black children, this can mean they lose the protection afforded by assumed childhood innocence well before they become adults," study co-author Matthew Jackson told the American Psychological Association. "With the average age estimation for black boys exceeding four-and-a-half years, in some cases, black children may be viewed as adults when they are just 13 years old."


[19-Apr-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the public at large assumes black children from the age of 10 onwards are 4.5 years older than they actually are


[19-Apr-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
so a 10 year old is viewed as a 14 year old, a 12 year old is viewed as an 16 year old, etc


[19-Apr-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon oh god what did Kyle say now


[19-Apr-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I recall him once saying Ben Shapiro would make a good presidential candidate


[19-Apr-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kyle?


[19-Apr-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note further, Crow


[19-Apr-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
that 2 same-sized unarmed guys, one blakk, one white


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
means the former is viewed as dangerous and needing police force (brutality) to subdue.


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is kyle?


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kylebiddle on Derpibooru's politics thread


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now consider how this plays out when a blakk guy has an open carry permit and a gun on his thigh.


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[19-Apr-19 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now known as Sectioned


[19-Apr-19 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Apr-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao


[19-Apr-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, fox news seems to have this perception that universities and colleges are chalk full of communist propaganda at every corner


[19-Apr-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same here in Brazil.


[19-Apr-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my hvac teacher even beleives this...


[19-Apr-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look you can't learn history without reading Marx


[19-Apr-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is impossible


[19-Apr-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Everything benefiting people is communist and socialist, Theyll just raise prices to meet the newminimum wage. I'd rather haver no government, a military and a cabin in the woods"


[19-Apr-19 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, whenever i see a STEM student or teacher who leans left, i breathe a sign of relief


[19-Apr-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I had a bad experience with college conservatives


[19-Apr-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i;m the only left leaning student in my class


[19-Apr-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was neutral and didn't get involved with much


[19-Apr-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i jsut try to stay out of it at this point


[19-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But remember an open conservative who went to like, some event asking for student org opinions and he made an ass out of himself


[19-Apr-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"WHY ARENT YOU LETTING US SPEAK THIS IS CENSORSHIP"


[19-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sir we asked before if you wanted to and you said no but go ahead now I guess"


[19-Apr-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lolwut


[19-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was some event where your org had to RSVP


[19-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His didn't so there were only neutral or left groups there


[19-Apr-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I have to keep tearing down these Vector Marketing flyers


[19-Apr-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I always suspect they didn't on purpose


[19-Apr-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
The reps are like weeds on this god damn university


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a well known MLM scam


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mlm?


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mlem


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
:blep:


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Multilevel Marketing


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
A legal pyramid scheme


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[19-Apr-19 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, yeah, pyramid schemes


[19-Apr-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
They post flyers with tear-offs offering "$17.50 base-appt"


[19-Apr-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have yet to encounter those on my campus but that might be due to location


[19-Apr-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
which doesn't mean $17.50 an hour, it means $17.50 per sale


[19-Apr-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Most people don't want to buy overpriced knives


[19-Apr-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know i dont


[19-Apr-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
The entire tactic of the company isn't to sell knives anyway


[19-Apr-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
It's to recruit people to sell knives for them at essentially no cost


[19-Apr-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
That's how MLMs work


[19-Apr-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it's possible to game an MLM


[19-Apr-19 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Not really


[19-Apr-19 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
You can sue the pants out of them though and you'll probably win


[19-Apr-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
They are effectively pyramid schemes


[19-Apr-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Pyramid schemes are illegal.


[19-Apr-19 08:50 PM] moonatik#3676
i thought you were talking about marxist-leninist-maoists when you said MLMs lol


[19-Apr-19 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Maoists are too pure for MLMs


[19-Apr-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2702d548b25c47439c40ed440b805db5

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Pompeo dismisses NKorea's rejection of him as US negotiator
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday rejected a North Korean demand that he be replaced as President Donald Trump's top negotiator, as the United States and Japan vowed to...
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[19-Apr-19 09:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://zvaigzdelasas.tumblr.com/post/184242891111/hell-world-in-12th-grade-engineering-class-our

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The Universe As A Causal Set
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The Universe As A Causal Set
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[19-Apr-19 10:06 PM] Arvid#8335
MLM as in Marxist-Leninist-Maoist or Multi level marketing


[19-Apr-19 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
multilevel marketing >:v


[19-Apr-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
multi-leninist-marketing


[19-Apr-19 10:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Marxist-leveled-Maoism


[19-Apr-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
marry-larp-multiply


[19-Apr-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b6aeb6972c584a34a79df40b1c39ead2

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Biden expected to launch presidential campaign next week
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden is expected to join the crowded 2020 Democratic presidential race next week. The decision answers one of the most significant outstanding...
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[19-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Litrojia#0612
Oh boy, and just in time for the media to latch onto a new candidate


[19-Apr-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta get everyone nice and factionalized so thye dont accidentally vote bernie sanders again


[19-Apr-19 10:27 PM] ononim#8141
Marxist-Loving-Marketing


[19-Apr-19 10:28 PM] ononim#8141
tbh still bummed out there's not Auth RIght translation of MLM for full Political Compass


[19-Apr-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/south-florida-man-joseph-kless-threatened-to-kill-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-corey-booker-eric-swalwell-11151519

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South Florida Man Arrested for Threatening to Kill Democratic Lawm...
Lately, Donald Trump fans have enjoyed attacking left-leaning Americans. Last year, for instance, Miami-area resident Cesar Sayoc sent pipe bombs to prominent liberals across the nation and went to jail. Today another South Florida man was arrested, this time for allegedly th...
https://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/u/original/11151525/ilhan-omar.jpg


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
another one?


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
We got 'em, boys


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, the last one was from new york


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just put a Muslim woman in office and the crazies will show their true colors.


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
this one's from florida


[19-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how it works.


[19-Apr-19 10:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
They must be doing something right, they're pissing them off!


[19-Apr-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll make big talk about how it's really about language, or how it's just about enforcing the law


[19-Apr-19 10:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
T-that's how logic works, right guys?


[19-Apr-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But in the end racism eventually will show it's actual head if you push things far enuff.


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's its biggest weakness.


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It thrives when it's mostly winning, but it flounders when it's mostly losing.


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus all you need is a few major upsets and it goes from winning to losing.


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghm5Cqpfwk

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A Stable Genius
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A Stable Genius & The Mueller Report.
The moment when Donald Trump learns of the appointment of Robert Mueller. ** Warning. Presidential Language Advisory ** Donald Trump's voice was synthesized ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0ghm5Cqpfwk/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] moonatik#3676
lel


[19-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Win-more strategies are in general the worst ones you can use.


[19-Apr-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You always want lose-less.


[19-Apr-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, people always want to FEEL they are winning


[19-Apr-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is the whole draw of Trump.


[19-Apr-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not a good long-term strategy.


[19-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is, having a Muslim woman around is useful cause it can help expose the idiocy rampant on the right and lead to diminished support for their racist bullshit.


[19-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tlaib and Omar cause so much butthurt


[19-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So much


[19-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their Senate runs will be fun


[19-Apr-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're both reps right


[19-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
yes


[19-Apr-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's what he sent her


[19-Apr-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“No one wants to fucking hear you or that other little whore. I’d like to take that bitch and throw her right off the Empire State Building, that fucking whore. Tell her to shut her fucking mouth, you fucking fuck her all the time probably. So tell her to shut the fuck up, alright? From one towel head to another. You stanking, fucking smelly fucking bitch. Fuck off. I wish all of you the worst, you can go fuck off in life. Fuck you and fuck Mohammed too. You bitch fucking cunt.”


[19-Apr-19 11:09 PM] Honahue#0656
wtf


[19-Apr-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It was your Taliban bitch, the one who opened up her fucking towel-head mouth about how 'some people did it,'" Kless allegedly said in his message to Tlaib. "You know what? She's lucky she's just getting death threats, bitch. So are you. All right? You're lucky they're just threats, motherfucker, 'cause the day when the bell tolls, whore, and this country comes to a war, there will be no more threats. Your life will be on the fucking line."


[19-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, on a scale of normal to 4chan, that's like a 6


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/historys-best-recession-predictor-is-flashing-red-again/


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
People: WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure half of 4chan would be arrested for saying the stuff they say there in public


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Marx: <Knowing silence>


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
just for public indecency


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/historys-best-recession-predictor-is-flashing-red-again/93660

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History's Best Recession Predictor Is Flashing Red Again
The yield curve has correctly predicted every previous recession. Is it right this time too?
https://pictures.ozy.com/pictures/1500xany/5/1/7/141517_shutterstock_720579289.jpg


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
whoops, fucked up the URL


[19-Apr-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol calm down


[19-Apr-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Telling people to calm down never makes them calm down. Doing it in all lowercase with the lol in front of it makes it even funnier.


[19-Apr-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
wait wat


[19-Apr-19 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
forgot to switch accounts


[19-Apr-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
aaron is its confirmed


[19-Apr-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/impeachment-talk-among-democrats-heats-after-mueller-report-n996401

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/impeachment-talk-among-democrats-heats-after-mueller-report-n996401
Warren calls on House to begin impeachment proceedings against Trump
Sen. Bernie Sanders, another 2020 hopeful, ignored questions from reporters on the subject at a campaign stop in South Carolina.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_16/2828196/190419-elizabeth-warren-se-421p_570bee80f6e43fde6b2ccb985429a6c1.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Apr-19 01:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/1Q46AoR80M4

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Pyramid of Control
https://youtu.be/1Q46AoR80M4
debate club
Z/P 2019 6:30pm CST / 7:30pm EST
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Q46AoR80M4/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[20-Apr-19 01:36 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow


[20-Apr-19 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/WGRC5AA1wF0

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muke
https://youtu.be/WGRC5AA1wF0
debate
Rehost of the debate, avoid giving Peterson money In case this gets taken down, an audio-only fallback stream will be hosted off my own computer (audio only ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WGRC5AA1wF0/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[20-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
what's this


[20-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
I don't hear or see anything


[20-Apr-19 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
Battle for *snif* Ze Weshtern Shivilisation *snif*


[20-Apr-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
second link is better and with sound


[20-Apr-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
it still haven't started but afaik is about


[20-Apr-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's just the auditorium. Just listening to the crowd and Mozart while I game pretty much


[20-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
it's starting


[20-Apr-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
also, that's a lot of bottles lol


[20-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
huh, when did peterson start growing a beard?


[20-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
>we're here to talk about marxism


[20-Apr-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[20-Apr-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
I thought it was about happiness


[20-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, I went afk for a bit and came back and he's going on and on about historical stuff


[20-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
instead of, you know, happiness


[20-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He literally went up there and said, "I tried to study Zizek, but there wasn't enough time so I read the Communist Manifesto."


[20-Apr-19 02:13 AM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure both of old farts will derail discussion in their own ways


[20-Apr-19 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literally what


[20-Apr-19 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
PREPARATION **0**


[20-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
did marx ever do any debates when he was alive


[20-Apr-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He did debate Bakunin


[20-Apr-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Both dudes were at each other's throats frequently


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
don't they have similar philosophies though?


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But at least Bakunin had the audacity to read through Marx's theory and compare it to his own


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Peterson's already showing questionable intellectual honesty


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
iirc this was the OG anarchist/marxist split


[20-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
peterson's going off on all sorts of tangents


[20-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
it's like he's throwing out a bunch of random shit in order to distract from the original point


[20-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
and his original point has absolutely nothing to do with the debate topic to begin with


[20-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that if zizek is worth literally any of the hype I've ever heard about him, he's going to destroy peterson


[20-Apr-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the guy who talks like an auctioneer to distract people


[20-Apr-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, that's Ben Shapiro, i think


[20-Apr-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Peterson is known for his kermit voice


[20-Apr-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
ben shapiro talks faster than the speed of thought


[20-Apr-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ben Shapiro as the scout from TF2


[20-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had a professor who I thought sounded like Kermit


[20-Apr-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Went into his office for office hours


[20-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He had a Kermit puppet there


[20-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I guess he knows and takes it in stride


[20-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit, he's basically arguing that "because there's no system that produces equality, we shouldn't even try to make one"


[20-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guessing you didn't see the Bigger Fish video


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
which ignores all the attempts that have actually produced equality


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
like NORWAY


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Norway isn't perfectly equal, Crow


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the problem is


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives see perfect equality as an impossible utopia


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
which tbh it is, but


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They use the difficulty as a justification


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
but not very many people want that


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives prefer things be "natural"


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
they see a natural state of inequality and say that's for good reason


[20-Apr-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
they just want to be able to afford things without being homeless after missing a single paycheck


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe liberals don't believe in a utopia


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Tbh an equal world sound like hell, basically because we are not the same.....


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe libelals are pretending to believe in a utopia but actually doing it for corrupt ends to change who's on top of the hierarchy.


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
"I'll leave it at that.... OH ACTUALLY I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THIS"


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
>the poor are getting richer under capitalism


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck???


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
what reality does he live in?


[20-Apr-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And conservatives see disturbances to that hierarchy as inherently immoral


[20-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if you try to make racial equality


[20-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they see it as interfering in the poor pulling themselves out of being poor


[20-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause American conservatives are Calvinist


[20-Apr-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe being poor is a result of a moral failing


[20-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, he belives that the poor are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps using crumbs from the top


[20-Apr-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what a lot of American conservatives believe


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amercian conservatives believe there is no racism


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
that everything's already equality of opportunity


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that if you're poor, it's on you


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
now zizek is interesting to listen to, though I kinda wish I had some subtitles


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that giving to the rich will help the poor.


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sniff


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their beliefs are **absurd**, yes.


[20-Apr-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's important to understand said beliefs.


[20-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and why they're ultimately, in this situation, both incorrect and reprihensible)


[20-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
zizek's a lot more concise too


[20-Apr-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
but he's a slower talker too


[20-Apr-19 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
@The Luna Fan an equal society is not one that does not have individual differences, just one that does not stress them


[20-Apr-19 02:33 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I see, then go for it!


[20-Apr-19 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Zizek's not in the cusp of a emotional, depressive breakdown.


[20-Apr-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I think you might be upset by a society that stressed e.g. the _otherness_ of a particular race or nationality


[20-Apr-19 02:34 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Maybe my confusion is that in spanish we don't want a state of "igualdad" but one of "equidad"


[20-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure what those mean


[20-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
note


[20-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
in English it's mainly about "equality of opportunity" vs "equality of outcome"


[20-Apr-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, equality vs equity


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so it's comparable.


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
"igualdad" is equality, "equidad" is equity


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
http://interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png

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http://interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals often want some forms of equity


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't even want equality.


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
I think everyone wants equity


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
well, the vast majority


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
lolno


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Something like that yeah


[20-Apr-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow , show the image with the fence removed


[20-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://open.avenues.org/uploaded/open/english/New_York_Learning/equity-liberation-3.png

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[20-Apr-19 02:38 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I mean the fence is due to needs like eating and all that, so unless we leave our mortal bodies that fence is going to stay....


[20-Apr-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
I like the see through fence version better


[20-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*hHofR-IYtIvK8aTDwPw2Bw.jpeg

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https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*hHofR-IYtIvK8aTDwPw2Bw.jpeg


[20-Apr-19 02:38 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
***Time to upload our minds to the matrix***


[20-Apr-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope we arent already in the matrix, if we are, thne it sucks ass


[20-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, do you remember what I said when that was linked? it's basically real life right now, with the chain-link fence being the internet


[20-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
people can see how great the better off other countries are doing, but can't actually participate


[20-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's why there's so many people from africa and south america coming towards europe/the US


[20-Apr-19 02:46 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I mean, only when you are really poor or really rich changing country would make a difference, and from what i heard, Europe doesn't really want poor people going to them....


[20-Apr-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
you hear too much from the loud nutcases in europe


[20-Apr-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
most europeans don't care


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and as usual there is way more right wing violence and crime than immigrant crime


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Loud nutcases kinda took over Italy


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the UK


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
fascism is on the rise in italy


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the rest of the places are mostly like "okay that's dumb"


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
and they're exporting it to the UK too


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] ononim#8141
>most places


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] ononim#8141
yeah


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically just avoid italy,france, and the uk and you shoudl be good


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
and poland


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] ononim#8141
let's us ignore Eastern Europe, that's a silly place!


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also poland


[20-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, zizek brought up the lobster


[20-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eastearn Europe is Europe's ass


[20-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy's the penis


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
Europe has an ENORMOUS ASS then


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is bad makeup


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
DUmmy thicc


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia made sure it was very shitty.


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they be clappin that ass all over the place


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
>Russia


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
we are big part here


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
But


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Man I should know more about europe, hablo españolete por luna santa!


[20-Apr-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
Do you really think it was Russia who made Poles so antsemitic 😏


[20-Apr-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also new zealand, though I dont know much about their feelings towards immigration


[20-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Considering that Russia conquered half of Poland in an alliance with the Nazis, then later puppeted it to shit for decades, I'm pretty sure it didn't make them less anti-semitic


[20-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
new zealand is east of australia


[20-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, I'd bet that it had a pretty negative effect overall


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially since places like Eastern Germany to this day are way poorer than the rest of Europe


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't particularly fond of outsiders, but they're nicer about it than australia


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair enough


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Berlin for a while was like the only capital city in Europe that had a per capita GDP worse than its country's average.


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] ononim#8141
lmao just look at polish politics pre war


[20-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviet Union was incredibly shitty and kinda held places bakk by over 20 years


[20-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I feel like a lot of eastern europe is still repressed by the soviet union, even 25+ years later


[20-Apr-19 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
>agricultiral part of the country turned out to be poorer than industrial part


[20-Apr-19 02:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I planned a trip through Europe. France, to Italy, to Amsterdam to Poland. :shrugpony:  it's like these countries knew I was coming and decided to flip shit.


[20-Apr-19 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
MUST BE RUSSKIES


[20-Apr-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
And like


[20-Apr-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
I am not defending reactionary forces ofrussia, far from it


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Guys, what's the first thing you picture when someone talks about Colombia?

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[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
drugs


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
shithole country


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
Just the idea what it's dastardly russians who seeded everything bad what is in europe


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
cocaine, specifically


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
COCAINUM


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
donkey fuckers


[20-Apr-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i know is they sell cocaine


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, they economically destroyed countries


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
while forcing particular culture


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
technically, italy also seeded everything bad with europe too


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and assassinating people for political reasons


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont actually know it;s location, or geography


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
pretty sure they seeded bad attitudes and practices.


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They made pizza so it's ok.


[20-Apr-19 02:56 AM] ononim#8141
:radiant_hope_unamused:


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the bad stuff was already there, but they made sure it got worse or didn't get better.


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
Inter war Poland was a de facto dictaroship with huge anti-semitism


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, the US rebuilt a lot of western europe and kinda put it on a path to well-regulated capitalist democracy


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think modern pizza was actually invented by americans but was based off a concept invented in italy. I dont remember if thatls true or not


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
resulting in many areas there to this day being pretty decent


[20-Apr-19 02:57 AM] ononim#8141
inter-war Hungary pretty hapily joined Axis and deported its jews to death camps


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia isn't responsible for every bad thing in Eastern Europe


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
just, like, 75% of them


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
America is full of Italians.


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the iron curtain falling actually disseminated a lot of the seeds of social democracy to western europe


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141
😏


[20-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
or germany, at least


[20-Apr-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
since west and east recombined


[20-Apr-19 03:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
East Germany actualy had far more growth than West in %


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well when you've got like, 2 of something


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not hard to double it.


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the numbers at the bottom


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol it's LITERALLY 2.0


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] ononim#8141
It's literally argumetn against you


[20-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
What a fun coincidence.


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
East Germany had less economically useful shit in it


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look at each stage


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's mostly rural


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] ononim#8141
Eastern Germany had a lot less than western


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It ended at 12.5


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] ononim#8141
"WHY DDR IS SO POOR"


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs 22.6


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's barely over half


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
The economic centres of Germany that were more intact


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
We're west


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It started at 2.0 vs 5.2


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
East got destroyed af


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
And was already smaller economically


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the soviets, yes


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] ononim#8141
and also


[20-Apr-19 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
And the west paid far less reperations


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] ononim#8141
DDR was like just one third of germany


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, whatever the West did seemed to work


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] ononim#8141
so


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is per capita, tho


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's already accounting for being smaller


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah, getting biggger part with industrial areas


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
when you start out with far better resources per capita


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
you kinda have an advantage


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
a huge one


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
a huge, huge one


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The resources aren't that much better per capita


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
they were far better


[20-Apr-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the growth after the curtain fell is direct evidence that being under the soviets was harmful.


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
West germany literally let ex fascists have positions of power too


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It went from less than half to more than half


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
*nazis


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
wow


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or wait, this is right before the wall fell


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like growth happens over time


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, growth does happen over time.


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
no matter where you are


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rate is influenced by a lot of things.


[20-Apr-19 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
The fuck happened in 2014?? A lot of gdp of a lot of countries just plump.....


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
Lmao


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
West: pls gibe Israel money to massacre arabs


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
TLF, recovery from the Great Recession


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
East: no


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
REEEEEEE


[20-Apr-19 03:05 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Oh


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Israel was very, very, very violent back then


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
The gdp of venezuela stops in 2014......


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Muh vuvuzuela argument


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Venezuela's GDP was entirely oil-dependent


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
from terrible mismanagement and poor planning.


[20-Apr-19 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not an argument, most of its economy is private capitalist


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oil has wild price fluctuations.


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
you forget


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
that america deliberately crashed it


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
to fuck with brown people


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
America kinda wanted cheap oil


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
with their friendo the saudis


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I didn't knew that


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is bad for OPEC countries


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
it wasn't for cheap oil


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
it was to fuck over their enemies


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] ononim#8141
eh


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a side benefit, sure


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] ononim#8141
it's wasn't because they are brown


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Venezuela wasn't a concern then


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] ononim#8141
it's because they are against them


[20-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the primary thing leading to cheap oil is that America can now drill its own


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know, I was sorta shitposting lol


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
the market was flooded with far more oil at a higher rate


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] ononim#8141
tbh it's not helpfull to shitpost too much in more "serious" discus


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
previously saudis were producing less


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
america said more


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
market bottomed out


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If America really wanted to fukk over OPEC purely, it would pump a toooon of subsidies into home oil production and create weird trade deals.


[20-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It normally just tells the Saudis to adjust things


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but its own production is making that matter less.


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Your greatest ally Saudi Arabia who loves bombing school children with weapons sold by you


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
was more than happy to profit


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Saudi Arabia is getting shafted lol.


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
nahh, still lovingly buying the most weapons out of everyone ❤


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
uwu


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woops unregulated capitalism, can't do a thing with my bags of money, says the GOP senator


[20-Apr-19 03:09 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
ALso the US kinda wants to send troops to the border Colombia-venezuela, in here we have to enlist in the military obligatorily, ***and i have 19 years...sh*t***


[20-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Venezuela is a pest


[20-Apr-19 03:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
by??? not doing anything hostile to the US at all


[20-Apr-19 03:10 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
I mean his governet is really shitty there....


[20-Apr-19 03:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
and just like cuba, actually wants to be able to freely trade with the US


[20-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a resource-based dictatorship that doesn't giv Guyana its land


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
everything is a 'regime' or 'dictatorship' when the US doesn't like it


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, there's oil off that land's coast, which Venezuela isn't going to harvest


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but which it won't allow anyone else to


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
your money based dictatorship 'regime' in the US


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
your norm


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
is just as bad, the country is just richer


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
you can't argue that maduro isn't a dictator at this point in time


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
A dictatorship is an authoritarian form of gov't.


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
logically, at least


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
and the US isn't a capital dictatorship?


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dictatorships are generally looked badly upon by democracies


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracies very rarely war each other


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
dictatorship of the bourgeoisie


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they love to war dictatorships


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] ononim#8141
lol


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
not yet


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
lobbyists


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
dictatorships war both.


[20-Apr-19 03:11 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Is true that you don't really own a piece of land on venezuela, but the air above it instead?


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
$$$$ controls everything


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it's not a dictatorship of a small 1% class?


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's like 80% there, but there is resistance


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
A plutocracy isn't a dictatorship intrinsically.


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can be an oligarchy instead.


[20-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(oligarchies are rare tho, but the US is headed to being one)


[20-Apr-19 03:13 AM] ononim#8141
~~y'all are distracting me from kermit vs groucho :^(~~


[20-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Venezuela is shitty to all its neighbors


[20-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
it believes relations should consist of threatening and not actual diplomacy


[20-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does this while starving its own people


[20-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This kinda makes it a pest


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Fair enough, we are really lacking inversions in science, health, study, etc...


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it drags down economies and human rights in the region as a whole while constantly shitposting about how it's the US' fault.


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Venezuela isn't starving its own people though?


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's giving them food


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
The market (capitalist) prices are high for food


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's giving them food in a really inefficient way caused by its own stupidity


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlX3yfXNX_g

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The Grayzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlX3yfXNX_g
The real humanitarian aid: Inside Venezuela’s state-subsidized c...
The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal toured open air markets in Caracas full of food and supplies subsidized by the Venezuelan government, which debunk the "humanit...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qlX3yfXNX_g/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its ruined its markets


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
The government is actively giving them subsidized below market value


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
venezuela is providing food aid to its people


[20-Apr-19 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Food


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
The capitalist markets have high prices


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Socialism isn't the problem


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
The capitalist part is


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't say socialism was the problem


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the gov't


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Most of the economy


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
ANd the freaking inflation of the 1000000%....


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't do good market regulation


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Most of the economy is capitalist


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that is one of the main problems


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
The capitalists are shafting the people


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poorly-regulated capitalism leads to problems.


[20-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
norway is actually more "socialist" than venezuela


[20-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's impressively bad when you regulate your markets worse than the US


[20-Apr-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't see how the government is shafting the people more than the capitalists are, given most of their issues are monetary and capitalists argue the free market (most of their economy) will fix things


[20-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you make everything dependent on one resource with wild fluctuations.


[20-Apr-19 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
So how may I ask, will a free market introduced by US intervention fix anything?


[20-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US wouldn't go in there to make the markets free


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd go in there to remove the dictatorship and set up a strong democracy that actually wants to trade with its neighbors and such


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
the US would go in there to train fascists and have death squads kill leftists


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
like every other intervention


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
the US has never' set up a strong democracy that actually wants to trade'


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
never


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe. All kinds of ways it can go wrong.


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
If i'm not mistaken the lost in electricity was due to not maintaining the hydro electrical and hydroelectrically plans of the country...


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally never in history


[20-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it can't go much wronger than what's there.


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Pinochet?


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Pinochet isn't worse?


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
a fascist dictator that has US supplied right wing death squads killing leftists and piling up their bodies on the countryside isn't worse?


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
because basically every US intervention


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
El Salvador


[20-Apr-19 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Honduras


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Chile


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
resulted in that happening


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
every one


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
every single one


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
not even necessarily leftists


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
simply suspected ones


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
and in Chile, fucking Christian aid organisations that provided doctors n food n shit


[20-Apr-19 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
they were shot up too


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Americans


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
that were there.


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Journalists.


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
if history has anything to say, it can and will get far worse under US control.


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
and US sanctions are usually what fucks them up in the first place


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] ononim#8141
>The US wouldn't go in there to make the markets free


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] ononim#8141
LOL


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
US: let's fuck up their economy so we can justify fucking them up


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] ononim#8141
You know


[20-Apr-19 03:20 AM] ononim#8141
the term


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
they'd make the markets free by killing most of the people participating in said markets locally :' )


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
"Banana republic" right?


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
forcing them to sell to america


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
if they're not dead they're too poor to buy


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
so we can just export to burgerstan for pennies!


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
pennies!


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
and pay them $1 a day


[20-Apr-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
Or like how a lot of contemporary refugees to US are from direct colussion between US and Right WIng couper


[20-Apr-19 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
$1 a day keeps the death squads away :' )


[20-Apr-19 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally every single time


[20-Apr-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
US: hmmm, who could we supply lots of arms and training to that hate leftists and will cooperate with our markets by effectively enslaving the population?


[20-Apr-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
US: Ah yes, literal fascists.


[20-Apr-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
every. single. time.


[20-Apr-19 03:23 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Maan i really should had pay more attention to history class, i have no idea of what you guys are talking about....


[20-Apr-19 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
So basically


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
TLDR; every single US intervention that was successful in central and south america


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
which btw history class purposefully won't teach you about


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
otherwise you'd be anti-america by now


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
has been far right wing fascist dictatorships


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
that killed many, many, many thousands of people


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
assassinations and outright roaming death squads.


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
Operation Condor


[20-Apr-19 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
Every. Single. One


[20-Apr-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
Oh yeah


[20-Apr-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
and the fascist dictatorships where all white and were racist against the browner folks of the population and subjugated them to shittier conditions than the rest on top of all of that


[20-Apr-19 03:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
just to top it all off


[20-Apr-19 03:25 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Just one question...... what's a intervention?


[20-Apr-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Venezuela for example


[20-Apr-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Whites are largely their middle class


[20-Apr-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
and most don't speak english


[20-Apr-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
a Venezuelan that speaks english is and is white is pretty suspect


[20-Apr-19 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
because the darker skinned demographics whom are mostly poor largely support maduro


[20-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War
Salvadoran Civil War
The Salvadoran Civil War was a conflict between the military-led government of El Salvador and the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN), a coalition or "umbrella organization" of left-wing groups. A coup on October 15, 1979 was followed by killings of anti-coup p...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Masakro-%C4%89e-Suchitoto-Salvadoro.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact: Venezuela's dependence on oil was not a Chavista thing. It transitioned in the thirties. The white families that ruled the plantations then came to rule the oil.


[20-Apr-19 03:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/intervention

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https://www.thefreedictionary.com/intervention
intervention
Definition, Synonyms, Translations of intervention by The Free Dictionary
https://img.tfd.com/wn/A2/5FFEB-intervention.png


[20-Apr-19 03:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.voanews.com/a/are-race-and-class-at-the-root-of-venezuelas-political-crisis/1886458.html

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https://www.voanews.com/a/are-race-and-class-at-the-root-of-venezuelas-political-crisis/1886458.html
Are Race and Class at the Root of Venezuela’s Political Crisis?
Venezuela's protesters cite runaway inflation, shortages of food and basic goods and rampant crime, including the world's highest murder rate, as the reasons for going into the streets
https://gdb.voanews.com/FB92E5FE-66D2-4C75-ABF7-A5754224D5B6_w1200_r1_s.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
notice a lot of 2014 articles say this, but lots of recent articles are very much slanted against Venezuela


[20-Apr-19 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you can find it, watch Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent


[20-Apr-19 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's what the media is doing right now


[20-Apr-19 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
manufacturing your gleeful consent in barbaric coups


[20-Apr-19 03:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's a book, but the documentary is easy to digest


[20-Apr-19 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/322

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https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/322
Racism and Racial Divides in Venezuela
An interview with Jesus "Chucho" Garcia, Venezuela's leading activist against and researcher of racism in Venezuela. As a Venezuelan of African descent, he talks about the denial of racism in Venezuela and what needs to be done to overcome it.
https://venezuelanalysis.com/files/images/2010/04/chucho-garcia.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
>you're a strange marxist to have a discussion with


[20-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[20-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
peterson is confused as fuck


[20-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
he has no fucking idea how to deal with zizek


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE

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epicQUALITY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE
Noam Chomsky- Manufacturing consent (1992)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AnrBQEAM3rE/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
here we go


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
here's a short clip


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU

{Embed}
Chomsky's Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU
Noam Chomsky - Manufacturing Consent
Summary of Chomsky's analyses on how the corporate media functions. Excerpt from the documentary "Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media" (1992). ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tTBWfkE7BXU/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's quite informative


[20-Apr-19 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
incase you don't want to watch the whole long ass thing


[20-Apr-19 03:33 AM] The Luna Fan#9702
Thanks!


[20-Apr-19 03:33 AM] ononim#8141
Uphold ZIzekist thought!


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
who's hegel again


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
Dialectics boi


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
thing + anti-thing = synthesis of thing


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hegel's a power drill to the head.


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
^


[20-Apr-19 03:36 AM] ononim#8141
German philospher from 18th century


[20-Apr-19 03:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
read him and that's what it feels like


[20-Apr-19 03:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
so you're best watching youtube videos on him


[20-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
how is that different from centrism


[20-Apr-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's more or less progress, Marx applies it to say, feudalism + people that want to tear that down = capitalism, that society must necessarily progress to another stage to vastly simplify things


[20-Apr-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
centrism is status quo


[20-Apr-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's keep shit the same


[20-Apr-19 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
or marginally different


[20-Apr-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Centrism is saying "the truth is between" and Hegel is "the truth is without/in negation". Both ideas are bound to conflict and kill each other. The result is a new idea.


[20-Apr-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
The overlooked element in Hegelianism is he assumes everything comes in on level ground.


[20-Apr-19 03:40 AM] ononim#8141
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[20-Apr-19 03:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And not all ideas are not backed equally by material mechanisms, which can be seen as the Marxist critique in a basic bitch way.


[20-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
zizek is trampling peterson


[20-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
peterson seems completely caught off guard


[20-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
(I think I kinda said that already)


[20-Apr-19 03:43 AM] ononim#8141
He didn't expect this wild trash man


[20-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.strawpoll.me/17849560/

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Who's winning?
Vote Now! [Zizek] [Peterson]
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[20-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
zizek is converting peterson


[20-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
not just winning


[20-Apr-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
really?


[20-Apr-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm surprised


[20-Apr-19 03:45 AM] ononim#8141
hol up he actually at very least aknowledges shit about pomo neomarxism being bogus


[20-Apr-19 03:45 AM] ononim#8141
I am actually surprised


[20-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
meh, sort of


[20-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's more along the lines of peterson acknowledging that zizek isn't a raving marxist


[20-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
>I don't care


[20-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[20-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
>Zizek
>Not a raving Marxist
wat


[20-Apr-19 04:21 AM] ononim#8141
well he's nor a Stalin Era like party demagogue neither le Neon Colored Feminist so that's was probably surprise to him lel


[20-Apr-19 04:32 AM] ononim#8141
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[20-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, I mean that zizek didn't go into any sort of tangent that idolizes marxism, but kept to channels that wouldn't trigger the standard conservative "omg communism" automatic rejection


[20-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
basically, peterson came fully prepared to debate communism, but was completely blindsided by zizek


[20-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never let your enemy know the battlefield if you can avoid it.


[20-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
well, the main problem is that peterson admitted right from the start that he only read the communist manifesto, none of zizek's actual work


[20-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
so it was literally a cakewalk for zizek


[20-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Kek okay cause he rambles a d his tics definitely make him look raving


[20-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
what? I didn't call zizek raving


[20-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
peterson rambled a lot though


[20-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Honahue#0656
I didn't get to see the whole thing unfortunately


[20-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
and was pretty unclear about a lot of his points


[20-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
and didn't even answer one of the direct questions zizek asked him (who are all the marxists trying to destroy western civilization or whatever)


[20-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Lol


[20-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
It's also really funny because Marx was a Western thinker


[20-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
zizek was incredibly clear and consise with pretty much everything he said


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
peterson was unfocused and rambling


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Peterson was the bottom lobster


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Zizek had top the whole time


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
peterson didn't seem like he had much of an idea of how to actually debate zizek


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[20-Apr-19 04:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
From lobster daddy to lobster thot


[20-Apr-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
zizek was a lot easier to listen to than peterson


[20-Apr-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://cdn.wsna.org/post/index-2.html?p=news%2F2019%2Fsenator-states-that-nurses-probably-play-cards-for-a-considerable-amount-of-the-day-in-amending-rest-breaks-bill


[20-Apr-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In perhaps one of the most demeaning statements on the nursing profession since Joy Behar’s 2015 “doctor’s stethoscope” comments on The View, Washington State Senator Maureen Walsh proclaimed on the Senate floor that Critical Access Hospital nurses should be exempt from protections in mandatory overtime because they sit around and play cards most of the day:

“I understand… making sure that we have ‘rest breaks’ and things like that. But I also understand that we need to care for patients first and foremost… I would submit to you that those [critical access hospital] nurses probably do get breaks! They probably play cards for a considerable amount of the day!”
– -Sen. Maureen Walsh 4/16/19 comments on SHB 1155, a bill eliminating loopholes in mandatory overtime


[20-Apr-19 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure why you thought I was attacking zizek though


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think you were, I'm joking that Zizek always looks.like a raving Marxist


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, he's twitchy as fuck lol


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
he kept tugging on his shirt


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Schniffing


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ish old Soviet joke you she


[20-Apr-19 04:47 AM] Honahue#0656
And sho on


[20-Apr-19 04:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY


[20-Apr-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
despite visually appearing less collected, zizek's talking points were cleaner and much more concise than peterson's


[20-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656

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[20-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies show liberals to be generally less organized and orderly in thinking and behavior.


[20-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Messy rooms, wandering arguments, etc.


[20-Apr-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
so I'm a conservative


[20-Apr-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
cawnservative

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[20-Apr-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the funny thing


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
peterson might've been somewhat cleaner looking, but he seemed a lot more nervous than zizek and overall flat-footed


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
American politics are so screwy


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
A mild conservative can look like a raving liberal.


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-ate-sensitive-document-after-cohen-meeting-former-white-house-aide-1069399

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Trump ate sensitive document after Cohen meeting, former White Hou...
“I was shocked he appeared to be chewing and swallowing the paper,” Omarosa Manigault Newman writes in her new book.
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[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Wait


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hang on what


[20-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so for some context


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't a troll?


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
what?


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump rips documents apart after finishing them


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He reads them, then tears them to tiny shreds


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*what*


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/trump-papers-filing-system-635164

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Meet the guys who tape Trump's papers back together
The president's unofficial 'filing system' involves tearing up documents into pieces, even when they're supposed to be preserved.
https://static.politico.com/df/80/110b19a54c9fadf246467f735232/180610trumpapergettyimages-967885332.jpg


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
staffers at the White House hav to painstakingly tape them bakk together because the law requires them to preserve all documents


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if Trump had something he didn't want preserved


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would eat it.


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where in the hell did this come from


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore.


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That.


[20-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Mikey#7286
ಠ_ಠ


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat, imagine someone who's used to documents screwing him over


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Mikey#7286
........


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no I'm saying, why is this the first time I've heard about this


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
after spending 20 fukking years fighting to keep the "niggers" out of his New York properties


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
also, that article is from 2018


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Document vore :nut:


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, with not always a paper shredder around


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
both of them are, I mean


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still relevent


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they were expensive bakk in the day


[20-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He developed a habit to tear up papers after reading them


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make sure they couldn't be used to nail him later.


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in the presidency, they just tape them bakk together...


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he eats them.


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that's highly illegal


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is very illegal


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
even to just rip them apart


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
let alone eat them


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
The president has illegally eaten sensitive documents.


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
WELCOME TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
before trump this would have been a highly impeachable offense


[20-Apr-19 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, I reiterate, ***what***


[20-Apr-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
under trump nope!


[20-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
it would be unthinkable under any previous president


[20-Apr-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is a real sentence


[20-Apr-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[20-Apr-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He is likely still doing so in present tense


[20-Apr-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how someone gets away with obstruction of justice.


[20-Apr-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress when they wrote that law did not expect the president to eat a document after reading it.


[20-Apr-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founding fathers did not expect this kind of thing at all.


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think *anyone* expects *anyone* to eat documents after reading them unless they are handing their math paper to a tiger


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Wasn't that Trump eating documents thing


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
like


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
from last year?


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tearing them up was


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's likely legal


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is new


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and very clearly illegal.


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
no the eating documents thing was last year too


[20-Apr-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
it was in Omarosa's book


[20-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh.


[20-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh well.


[20-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Definitely illegal.


[20-Apr-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna be hard to prove.


[20-Apr-19 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially since he;s probably eaten any proof that he does this


[20-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
hey man


[20-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're fat


[20-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
eating is the solution to all your problems


[20-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Chemical decomposition is a valid way of destroying classified documents


[20-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
cawnsider the fact that cawnsumption incawsing at an uncawntrollable rate

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[20-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evidence you don't approve it? Vore it.


[20-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how you maintain obesity at 72


[20-Apr-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
note to future administrations: lace the paper with neurotoxins

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[20-Apr-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that will do nothing


[20-Apr-19 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Though usually shredders, pulverizers, or incineration is used


[20-Apr-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
his existing brain damage will confuse the neurotoxins


[20-Apr-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ha


[20-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
oof


[20-Apr-19 05:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Next we need a Peterson-Wolff debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDM8mIKvlQ

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[20-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
I want to see zizek confuse ben shapiro


[20-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
too bad ben shapiro doesn't have the credentials to debate zizek


[20-Apr-19 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Shapiro is a thirty-year old that thinks just because he finished college at such a young age he's actually the best thing since sliced bread. He's currently suffering the sort of ego trip prodigies get.


[20-Apr-19 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the best he can come up with in regards to his supposed skills is triggering libs online.


[20-Apr-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, OK? You want a good boye pat on the back? You're just like a Cernovich right now. You add nothing, and you write dog shit.


[20-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Honahue#0656
He's like Batman without the wealth or height, emotionally stunted at a 10 year old level


[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMViTfNPkQ

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Nova 乡
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMViTfNPkQ
I am going to Kermit suicide
original vid by Jameskii https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPfjB94mhe8Gsnd9qIzUKHA vid of kermit jumping of without editing (jameskii): https://www.youtube.co...
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[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Someone will probably call this crude. But if someone killed him I don't think we'll lose anything. Sure the media will cry, but nothing'll change. The right will get a new attack dog. They already have an industry for Republican Boomers dedicated to triggering liberals.


[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
zizek vs peterson


[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they'll get another Shapiro.


[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
in a nutshell


[20-Apr-19 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Replace audio with debate audio


[20-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Peterson becomes a Marxist after this


[20-Apr-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
A long period of silence from Peterson


[20-Apr-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
His Twitter goes cold


[20-Apr-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
People begin to wonder.


[20-Apr-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
There are rumors


[20-Apr-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of conflicting information.


[20-Apr-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then someone finds him in the back of a Richard Wolff lecture.


[20-Apr-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Some months later, his Twitter re-activates.


[20-Apr-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I have devoted my life to the eternal struggle of the worker against the capitalist."


[20-Apr-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, zizek was legit converting peterson a bit


[20-Apr-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
he'll probably shrug it off though


[20-Apr-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Peterson cleans up his room and submits books to be published via Zero Books.


[20-Apr-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Douglas Laine is laughing on his YouTube channel


[20-Apr-19 05:29 AM] Honahue#0656

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[20-Apr-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hot take: in the 2001 movie Shrek, our titular hero has to overthrow the leader of a fascist state known as "Duloc." Duloc said backwards is "collude." Farquaad did russiagate confirmed :dab:


[20-Apr-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWbaUnbo-_c

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[20-Apr-19 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
It's 4/20


[20-Apr-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Happy birthday Hitler


[20-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Mikey#7286
:weed:


[20-Apr-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I can already smell the weed


[20-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/19/18507639/sarah-sanders-george-stephanopoulos-mueller-report-lie-comey

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Sarah Sanders keeps digging herself in deeper after Mueller showed...
The press secretary is now lying about lies.
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[20-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
During a string of media appearances following the release of the Mueller report on Thursday, Sanders has faced questions about a claim she made during a May 2017 press briefing that she later admitted was false during testimony to Mueller’s team. In an attempt to justify President Donald Trump’s decision to fire then FBI director James Comey, Sanders told reporters that “countless members of the FBI” had contacted her to say they had lost confidence in Comey, when in fact that wasn’t the case.


[20-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
On Thursday evening and Friday morning, Sanders repeatedly downplayed that lie as a mere “slip of the tongue.” But as ABC’s George Stephanopoulos pointed out to her in an interview on Friday morning, she used the line about “countless members of the FBI” multiple times in the days following Comey’s firing — a revelation undercutting her claim that she merely misspoke.


[20-Apr-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
>Sanders, however, refused to own it, and bizarrely blamed her lie on Democrats.


[20-Apr-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
get rid of her


[20-Apr-19 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it was those darn democrats again somehow


[20-Apr-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/no-authority-new-mexico-governor-tells-militia-stop-arresting-migrants-n996516

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'No authority': New Mexico governor tells militia to stop arrestin...
"It should go without saying that regular citizens have no authority to arrest or detain anyone," New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham .
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[20-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's time to fight the fascists


[20-Apr-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
four cents and some pocket lint says they're going to try and hide behind the constitution on this


[20-Apr-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"b-but second amendment...! And citizen's arrest...! I'm a SOVEREIGN CITIZEN"


[20-Apr-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/mexican-soldiers-question-disarm-two-us-army-troops-apparent-confusion-about-1401939

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Mexican soldiers question, disarm two U.S. Army troops in apparent...
Confusion on where the U.S.-Mexico border begins and ends led to Mexican soldiers temporarily detaining U.S. Army soldiers believing they were in Mexican territory when they were in U.S. territory.
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[20-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
I can see the breitbart headlines now


[20-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
"MEXICO INVADES AMERICA AND HOLDS TWO AMERICAN SOLDIERS HOSTAGE"


[20-Apr-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
"MEXICO DECLARES WAR ON AMERICA"


[20-Apr-19 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/23ae0174b4624265a1440198f02460c8

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Egypt votes on referendum extending el-Sissi's rule to 2030
CAIRO (AP) — Egyptians voted Saturday on constitutional amendments that would allow President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi to stay in power until 2030 and broaden the military's role — changes blasted by...
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[20-Apr-19 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Egyptians voted Saturday on constitutional amendments that would allow President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi to stay in power until 2030 and broaden the military’s role — changes blasted by critics as another major step toward authoritarian rule.

The referendum came amid an unprecedented crackdown on dissent in recent years. El-Sissi’s government has arrested thousands of people, most of them Islamists but also prominent secular activists, and rolled back freedoms won in a 2011 pro-democracy uprising.


[20-Apr-19 01:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
"another step toward authoritarian rule" sounds like they're already there


[20-Apr-19 01:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's an awfully long term for any country with term limits


[20-Apr-19 01:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Though many of them do have a limit of two 5-year terms, this guy has been president since 2014


[20-Apr-19 01:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(via military coup)


[20-Apr-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8f96ed4c30f045428dc49d180760a750 also this is a victory for trump for some strange reason

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How many cherries in frozen pie? FDA may soon drop rules
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump may soon be able to claim a sweet victory for his deregulation push, with officials preparing to get rid of the decades-old rules for frozen cherry...
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[20-Apr-19 01:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, this is the kind of deregulation I don't necessarily have a problem with


[20-Apr-19 01:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then again I don't fully know who or what was responsible for cherry pies getting singled out for regulation in the first place, and it might be worth investigating the oranges of that just for fun


[20-Apr-19 02:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the kind of "it's illegal to sleep outside in a refrigerator in Pennsylvania" law that makes you think, there's *probably* a story behind this


[20-Apr-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8c7a9b460c9049a6b5ae288f2548983c

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Quest for food stamp data lands newspaper at Supreme Court
WASHINGTON (AP) — In the summer of 2010, reporters at South Dakota's Argus Leader newspaper decided to request data about the government's food assistance program, previously known as food stamps....
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[20-Apr-19 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/19/church-group-to-hold-washington-event-despite-fda-warnings-against-miracle-cure

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'Church' to offer 'miracle cure' despite FDA warnings against drin...
Group to hold ‘effective alternative healing’ event in Washington state in which they peddle a ‘sacrament’ known to be industrial cleaner
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[20-Apr-19 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
People are fucking insane


[20-Apr-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're feeding industrial cleaner to people as a "miracle cure"?


[20-Apr-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what?


[20-Apr-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope police raid the shit out of that conference


[20-Apr-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Bleach


[20-Apr-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
It's sodium hypochlorite laundry bleach


[20-Apr-19 05:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what


[20-Apr-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck these  people


[20-Apr-19 05:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They didn't even mix it with flavor-aid


[20-Apr-19 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many antivaxxers will show up if the event doesnt get cancelled


[20-Apr-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm perfectly okay with antivaxer parents drinking bleach tbh


[20-Apr-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
but please


[20-Apr-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
spare the kids


[20-Apr-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
they did nothing wrong


[20-Apr-19 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit the thing is today


[20-Apr-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if there will be follow up news on it


[20-Apr-19 06:36 PM] Honahue#0656
One deregulation I was hoping for was getting rid of the chicken tax (nothing to do with chickens anymore) and we'd see a flood of small cheap foriegn trucks and finally get rid of the dumb American Luxury Cars with a bed obnoxiousness


[20-Apr-19 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At risk of kicking a hornet's nest, I'd love to see some of the more oddly-specific and ill-advised ATF regulations replaced with a more pragmatic approach to classifying how dangerous various firearms are


[20-Apr-19 06:44 PM] Honahue#0656
Abolish ATF


[20-Apr-19 06:45 PM] Honahue#0656

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[20-Apr-19 06:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
my armchair suggestion would be effective rate of fire - a metric that's not dependent on the form, caliber, or even the capacity of a single magazine


[20-Apr-19 06:45 PM] Honahue#0656
That's really arbitrary though


[20-Apr-19 06:47 PM] Honahue#0656
You'd be banning Jerry Miculek


[20-Apr-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
"Hey Tim, your bookbag is really heavy. Is it filled with books?"
"No, it's filled with magazines"


[20-Apr-19 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is hard to pin down a definition for a particular configuration of one specific firearm, yes, and that's the point. Things like bump stocks or drum mags *can* modify the effective rate of fire of a weapon by, variously, changing the rate of bullets out the end compared to pulls of the trigger, and number of rounds per minute not being hampered by magazine changes


[20-Apr-19 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which means that it's a top-down approach rather than bottom-up


[20-Apr-19 06:48 PM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Apr-19 06:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for Jerry Miculek, yes, semiautomatic weapons' rate is dependent on the speed of a trigger finger, hence my followup point of number of rounds fired vs. number of trigger pulls


[20-Apr-19 06:50 PM] Honahue#0656
He's still pulling once per bullet but he's an athlete weird to.say but he does use sports science to shoot that fast


[20-Apr-19 06:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We don't classify guns as being any more dangerous *now* based on the training their owners have, I see no reason to change this beyond mandatory firearm safety and usage training as part of obtaining or maintaining a license in the first place


[20-Apr-19 06:56 PM] Honahue#0656
Rate of fire just seems like the most arbitrary measure though, I mean I understand that Christchurch couldn't happen without box magazines and a semi auto


[20-Apr-19 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't mean it so much as a particular metric by which an individual gun should be judged, but merely the basis for any considerations made to the regulation of firearms. In other words, scary-looking guns don't matter, "military" calibers don't matter, optics don't matter...and maybe even ability to conceal the weapon shouldn't matter


[20-Apr-19 07:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least, it's independent of effective rate of fire


[20-Apr-19 07:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In other words, I'd rather see regulation derived from how many boolets come out the end for an operator of average skill (a necessary step in codifying "effective rate of fire" is making precise definitions for a somewhat subjective metric, I will admit) over how much black plastic is in the grip and stock (a metric that's wildly more subjective)


[20-Apr-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff like number of cherries in frozen pie is usually anti-competition regulation.


[20-Apr-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Particular big company sees particular competitor do X, manages to slip a rider into a big law going thru, X is now illegal.


[20-Apr-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
(or X now has a big FAKE MEAT NOT REAL MEAT warning on it)


[20-Apr-19 07:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I would say that a semi auto weapon is more dangerous than a fullauto weapon. Sure you can shoot a lot of bullets fast but how many of them are going to hit your target? With semi auto weapons you can trace your last shot and get a good idea of where your next bullet is going to go allowing you to accurately fire and make sure you hit more targets with less bullets.


[20-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
>tracing your target


[20-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point of using an automatic is to fire wildly into a crowd or do suppressing fire


[20-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
the former allows more casualties in the time before the police get to you


[20-Apr-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
the latter allows you to deal with police to some extent and also to operate as part of a cartel


[20-Apr-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind a large problem with US gun law is it results in the cratels buying weapons north of the border to bring home so they can terrorize the people south of the border.


[20-Apr-19 07:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You can finger bump a semi auto for a full auto like rate of fire.


[20-Apr-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's requiring a bit extra, every little hurdle helps.


[20-Apr-19 07:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That does not negate the fact that full auto weapons and modifications exist


[20-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It needs to become *damn hard* to get near automatic rate of fire.


[20-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I think most semi-auto rifles need to be mostly banned.


[20-Apr-19 07:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, bump stocks and other full-auto mods are the things that give "farmers with pitchforks" massive lethal force


[20-Apr-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pistols could be excluded if the RoF cares about a minimum number of bullets


[20-Apr-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is, you could define it in terms of "this many bullets in this amount of time without reloading"


[20-Apr-19 07:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
effective rate of fire vs. cyclic rate does factor that in, yes


[20-Apr-19 07:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does this mean pinned mags? Maybe


[20-Apr-19 07:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But if a weapon can be reloaded fast enough that it doesn't appreciably impact RoF, maybe not


[20-Apr-19 07:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You can tape mags together as well. in a row or one under the other to load in the next on as soon as the last one comes out.


[20-Apr-19 07:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
to that end, I think modifications to make reloading faster are potentially more "dangerous" than extended mags


[20-Apr-19 07:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's just a personal, subjective opinion because I think pinning mags to the extent that Canada does will have a backfire effect in the US given current gun culture


[20-Apr-19 07:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Something I do not know enough about because I am not an expert on gun law is the legality of *carrying* certain things. Like, do open/concealed carry licenses place a limit on how much ammunition can be transported with a gun in a ready-to-fire state such as loaded magazines etc


[20-Apr-19 07:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that seems like the more sensible approach to me, in that merely owning five 30-round magazines for a gun might not be illegal, but a device that can store multiple magazines on the weapon itself could be


[20-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
In California, you need a license for open carry of unloaded weapons


[20-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and open carry of loaded weapons isn't allowed


[20-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
because blakk people were open carrying loaded weapons while Reagan was governor


[20-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(in response to police brutality, the implication being "you brutalize us, we'll shoot")


[20-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA is happy to take guns away from blakk people.


[20-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And does not complain when police shoot them for legally carrying.


[20-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to perpetually keep in mind is that even if you draft the best gun control legislation ever


[20-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
authorities will look the other way for whites


[20-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
and will use it to punish blakks


[20-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why you need to mainly target *sale*, not *ownership*


[20-Apr-19 07:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on that note, I think a drastic overhaul of how police are trained in the US is a required prerequisite for reducing crime


[20-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another prereq is legalizing prostitution.


[20-Apr-19 07:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and drugs


[20-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs is already happening, but prostitution is where the shit really hits the fan


[20-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause with drugs, the police need to find 'em to throw you in jail


[20-Apr-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
but with prostitution, they *will* find the prostitute, and someone willing to say you paid her


[20-Apr-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they set up traps regularly.


[20-Apr-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.imgur.com/YvWHAQQ.png

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[20-Apr-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo and their "no politics" stuff


[20-Apr-19 07:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1119640148814245888?s=21

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An American bitcoin trader and his girlfriend could face the death penalty after they were accused of threatening Thailand's sovereignty by building and living in a "sea home" off the coast of Phuket https://t.co/DQHIXZ2Eaf
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[20-Apr-19 07:34 PM] Litrojia#0612
lol dumbass


[20-Apr-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking I'm not seeing the issue here


[20-Apr-19 07:35 PM] Litrojia#0612
owner claims it's outside territorial waters, hmm


[20-Apr-19 07:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Maybe Nintendo mods just fell for a lady boy and never let it go.


[20-Apr-19 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
phuket more like fuckit


[20-Apr-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, thing about territorial waters is, it's in a country's best interests to use the navy to go after people that are outside any reasonable interpretation of them.


[20-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thailand doesn't fukking care about international law, if they had acted fast enuff, they would hav those guys in a kangaroo court being sentenced to death right now.


[20-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UN is a spineless organization that can't enforce basic human rights, countries right now can literally just assassinate people when they want to.


[20-Apr-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
What should've happened is the US navy should've gone in under UN authority and DESTROYED THAILAND'S NAVY as soon as they went out to this seastead.


[20-Apr-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that'd only happen in a world where the UN actually has a spine.


[20-Apr-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's so concerned about preserving per-country relations that nobody ever does anything.


[20-Apr-19 07:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is how you get into world war territory


[20-Apr-19 07:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So how did WW3 start? Floaty Boaty Border.


[20-Apr-19 07:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think we've reached the point now where no one actually is going to start what can be effectively called a "world war" because the new toys to play with are proxy wars


[20-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Honahue#0656
Seasteading is a Randian nightmare


[20-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
Clearly the thing holding humanity back is governments enforcing rules on poor companies like labor practices and ethical standards


[20-Apr-19 07:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/1118038510152372224?s=21

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[20-Apr-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jul/21/trump-global-death-warrant-women-family-planning-population-reproductive-rights-mexico-city-policy

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How Trump signed a global death warrant for women | Sarah Boseley
With one devastating flourish of the presidential pen, worldwide progress on family planning, population growth and reproductive rights was swept away. Now some of the world’s poorest women must count the cost
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[20-Apr-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
old, but wow


[20-Apr-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't know? Republicans consider silencing any who support abortion a part of their core platform.


[20-Apr-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They giv 0 shits about actual freedom of speech.


[20-Apr-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie What is the extent of your beliefs on freedom of speech? Should certain types of speech like incitement to violence be prohibited? Are certain corporations that act as platforms obligated to protect the speech of their users?


[20-Apr-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a fun one cause it's a big issue. At the core, I think freedom of speech should really be a protection of artistic and political expressions, and that these are mostly targeted for *their informational content*, and that what should be able to be reprehensible is a different aspect of speech, that of the purpose of it (incitement). Platforms should be obligated in some manner only when they become effectively foundational, like internet services; being a monopoly should mean you get heavily restricted and must follow some of the rules the gov't does.


[20-Apr-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
What about when the line blurs between political opinions and incitement to violence?


[20-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general I think there are slightly too many prohibitions on speech in the US, but the burdens are a little too light on people in the executive given how they can use speech for obstruction.


[20-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think normally, incitement shouldn't be expected.


[20-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should require a high burden of proof/establishment.


[20-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, someone who is leading an angry mob shouting "burn it all down" has definitely crossed a line


[20-Apr-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
but someone saying something on twitter about how they want a new holocaust generally shouldn't be gone after.


[20-Apr-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
What about something like "We should behead all mudslimes [sic]"


[20-Apr-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
same idea?


[20-Apr-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would usually be fine unless it was, for instance, printed out and spread around a neighborhood.


[20-Apr-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The key is incitement involves some form of acting as a command.


[20-Apr-19 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
hm


[20-Apr-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, someone *just* saying what they believe should never be gone after.


[20-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
At any rate


[20-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans placing speech limitations on funding is ridiculous


[20-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
doing it in the US is generally a violation of the 1st amendment


[20-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They giv 0 fukks about actual freedom of speech.


[20-Apr-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
It is in your view that people in certain positions of power have to forfeit certain constitutional rights, yes?


[20-Apr-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
For example, I personally believe that free speech law cannot possibly apply to the idea of funding politicans, because that creates an obvious conflict of interest for policymakers


[20-Apr-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Same for police, who should legally have a restricted right to privacy when they are on duty


[20-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think money is speech


[20-Apr-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor are organizations people


[20-Apr-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think speech restrictions should only really apply on duty when speaking in an official capacity, and should mainly be looking at intent, not content.


[20-Apr-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the way it should be handled is that you *abused your position*, etc.


[20-Apr-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You forfeit certain rights to some degree when you gain certain positions


[20-Apr-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As it should be


[20-Apr-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like balance


[20-Apr-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
\*thanos intensifies\*


[20-Apr-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see any alternative to corporations being people


[20-Apr-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How are they going to enforce their rights


[20-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Through a representative?


[20-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
why should businesses have rights equal to individual humans?


[20-Apr-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't they?


[20-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
disregarding the semantics argument that businesses aren't humans to begin with, businesses are much more powerful than the average individual could ever possibly hope to be just because of the resources they command


[20-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
they already have an advantage from the get-go


[20-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
to equate a business to an individual means that the businesses are free to push out individuals from ever being relevant


[20-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the best we've got for now.


[20-Apr-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bussinesses have an army of lawyers at the ready, the average person does not


[20-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
what's the best we've got?


[20-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
no, those are corporations (which are basically just big businesses)


[20-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
but the average business usually has enough resources to hire at least one attorney


[20-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
and attorneys make everything easier


[20-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
(reminder that businessowners are the new landowners, you don't get full access to all of your rights as a person unless you own a business)


[20-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations gain superrights by having a huge supply of people with rights, Its.


[20-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, there's a whole bunch of other reasons why businesses shouldn't be equated to individuals too, like the fact that they can eventually become fiefdoms in and of themselves


[20-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who they can hire and fire at will.


[20-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
like what nebbie just said lol


[20-Apr-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't get me wrong, Citizens United was wrongly decided


[20-Apr-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But free association is still a thing


[20-Apr-19 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
corporations are not people


[20-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Mikey#7286
But they're made of people :thunk:


[20-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Free assocation doesn't mean you treat the association like people.


[20-Apr-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But there is no association without people


[20-Apr-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes so you treat the people like people and the association like an association


[20-Apr-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
associations contain people, but associations aren't people


[20-Apr-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
the people in the association have rights, but the association itself shouldn't have those same rights


[20-Apr-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, the association should be forced to respect the rights of the people within it


[20-Apr-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
after all, society itself is supposed to be one big association, sectioning off smaller associations within the whole association shouldn't allow the smaller associations to ignore the rights of the people


[20-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Honahue#0656
Plus a business doesn't represent the will of all it's employees just the minority of shareholders, unless it's a co-op but those are rare


[20-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
depends on the business model


[20-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
partnerships are basically smaller co-ops


[20-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental problem is the association becomes representing only a minority view of its members.


[20-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Honahue#0656
Did you read?


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
>unless it's a co-op


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
It was right there


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
well, partnerships aren't co-ops


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
they're like co-ops


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
semantics


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is always some incentive for putting forth a small subsection of views as those of a whole group.


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either by deception about who is in the group


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
Anyway my point is that it gives the shareholders two voices


[20-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
or by how widely-shared the views are in the group


[20-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
Theirs and the business


[20-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think lobbyist groups, @Itsthinking


[20-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
but my point is that not all non-co-op business models have shareholders


[20-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a business comes along with a model like a monarchy


[20-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
saying it wants this and that


[20-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the workers in it don't want this and that


[20-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
and shareholders seem to be by far the biggest cause of all the bullshit problems we have today


[20-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
why would you put its interests above others?


[20-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You should only take the "votes" of those within.


[20-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the spokesperson.


[20-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not a Communist but


[20-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Co-ops are the ideal setup  for a business


[20-Apr-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[20-Apr-19 11:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Shut up and go back to your crib https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1119718924105416711?s=21

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[20-Apr-19 11:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
libtards destroyed


[20-Apr-19 11:49 PM] Litrojia#0612
didn't even notice trump tweeted it, jeez


[20-Apr-19 11:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
For someone who campaigned on attacking news narratives, he's so blatant in promoting this one


[20-Apr-19 11:50 PM] illumnious#7938
The New York Post lied about Trump clean


[20-Apr-19 11:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
As Trump would say. Fake News.


[20-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Weird


[20-Apr-19 11:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Obviously, it is FAKE NEWS


[20-Apr-19 11:55 PM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Apr-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course trump only trusts tabloids and fox news


[20-Apr-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tell him the juicy lies he wants to succ


[20-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The report said it doesn't exonerate


[20-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the only reason no crimes happened is no one follow orders


[20-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He told people to commit crimes


[20-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi has no spine


[20-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And they're afraid they can't win over moderates _and_ impeach


[21-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're wrong


[21-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elie Mystal had a good take on it


[21-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically you can tell white people in Wisconsin they're getting their jobs back AND impeach


[21-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And not doing the latter looks weak


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] Honahue#0656
People in Wisconsin aren't getting the same jobs back though, that's why we need a better education system. There is always problem with degree/credential bloat too, a lot of office jobs don't need a BA to file some papers


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
we don't need a better education system


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
not really


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
either a hell of a lot of people have to die, or we need UBI


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
guaranteed housing


[21-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
guaranteed food


[21-Apr-19 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally "peace, land, and bread" @byte[]


[21-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Honahue#0656
We do need better education, our universities are all right but saddles people with debt and our K-12 system is pretty bad for a post industrial nation


[21-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I agree that we also need to get past the idea that a person is only worth their ability at production


[21-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Cause we sure as shit over value a lot of dumb jobs like salesmen


[21-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Honahue#0656
and undervalue important jobs like garbage collectors and truck drivers, though truck drivers is probably the best job you can get with a GED in the US it certainly would be better if their were more and better infrastructure so they could have normal lives instead of being treated like robots


[21-Apr-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
seems like kindergarten and elementary school are just glorified daycares tbh


[21-Apr-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
while middle school is just a transition period for high school, and high school itself is made to indoctrinate students for factory work


[21-Apr-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I dunno at every level you have over achievers


[21-Apr-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I could read at three and was reading at a fifth grade level in mid first grade


[21-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Honahue#0656
nothing wrong with daycare, people have to work to pay bills still


[21-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Honahue#0656
besides part of it is simple socialization


[21-Apr-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You can ad-hoc a guy so he buys a used car! Congrats here's your billion dollars, we'll see you on tuesday for golf" 
"You can drive a truck? Lick my boot peasant! You don;t deserve a living wage! Now drive this for 24 hours straight and if you sleep once we dock your pay!""


[21-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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[21-Apr-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh you're a nurse who works 12 hours a fucking day? Fuck you! I bet you just play cards all day! You donlt need a better regulated schedule!"


[21-Apr-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://cdn.wsna.org/post/index-2.html?p=news%2F2019%2Fsenator-states-that-nurses-probably-play-cards-for-a-considerable-amount-of-the-day-in-amending-rest-breaks-bill


[21-Apr-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mynorthwest.com/1353563/washington-senate-catastrophic-nurse-shifts/

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[21-Apr-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's because they're trying to apply business standards to fucking healthcare


[21-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
in theory, this is a great change for nurses, but in practice, it equates to a horrible change for patients


[21-Apr-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't listen to what the nurses actually needed


[21-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's more like they listened and then thought they were sweetening the deal


[21-Apr-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
when the "sweetening" was not requested


[21-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
it seems like it passed by accident in some ways, in the article one of the yea votes said they voted proceduarally


[21-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
they wanted it to pass just not in that form


[21-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
it's like someone ordering a coffee, but because no sugar wasn't specifically NOT requested, they added sugar


[21-Apr-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ammendment also excluded rural hospitals, so fuck those nurses i guess


[21-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Honahue#0656
I think the reason was because rural hospitals are generlly much less busy so they have enough downtime without mandatory breaks


[21-Apr-19 02:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[21-Apr-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
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[21-Apr-19 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I just want everyone to be clear on how little Jordan Peterson has read on Marxism & socialism at large. At the beginning of the debate with Slavoj Zizek, he admitted he had not read any of Zizek’s work & the only Marxist text he has ever read was The Communist Manifesto.

So this is how much reading a famous Ph.D did in preparation for an academic debate"


[21-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
The Communist Manifesto isn't meant to be an exhaustive work of communist theory


[21-Apr-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's absurd it's treated as such.


[21-Apr-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Big boyes read Capital

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[21-Apr-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's two volumes. There's a third.


[21-Apr-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
And an unfinished fourth that never came out because Marx died in the research and editing phase, I think


[21-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Macarou#9574
Four Volumes? How long is the total work?


[21-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
yuge


[21-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
each volume is like 800 pages


[21-Apr-19 03:02 AM] Macarou#9574
My goodness,  what all is in Capital?


[21-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
A comprehensive social and contemporary (to the 1860's and 1870's) analysis of capitalism


[21-Apr-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Here's a PDF, you can look at the table of contents for a general idea: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf


[21-Apr-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's only vol 1.


[21-Apr-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the last chapter begins on page 543.


[21-Apr-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
But sometimes each chapter is split into several sections detailing a certain aspect of the idea Marx had for that point as well as history, including exhaustive references to mostly British surveys and studies from the time.


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
isn't capital considered prophetic in how accurately it predicted modern capitalism?


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Macarou#9574
That, is certainly impressive. How complete was the Fourth Volume, before Marx's passing?


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
huxley predicted modern capitalism pretty well


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
he even did it before orwell


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
But that's because I think Vol 1 is mostly focused on Europe. Each other volume focuses on some other area. Vol 4 I think was supposed to focus on the economic development of Asia and Africa but got held up because Marx wanted to be certain he was absolutely right.


[21-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/marx-was-right-five-surprising-ways-karl-marx-predicted-2014-237285/

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[21-Apr-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Macarou Not enough to publish. I've heard talk of it, mostly from Trotskite people. Legends say it was mostly focused on the third world.


[21-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Macarou#9574
I see, impressive, I am surprised at just how much work Marx put into this book


[21-Apr-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
He wrote a lot. It's why "Marxism" exists as an academic profession of sorts. There's a lot of material to go through and build off of. In the same way as there are Hegelians, because Hegel too wrote dense and intense books and entire academic careers have been built to simply explain what the fuck Hegel was talking about


[21-Apr-19 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[21-Apr-19 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
NEW VEGAS IS A HEGELIAN DIALECTIC


[21-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
one of my teachers took a graduate level philosophy course on Hegel which basically boiled down to "meet once a week with a group of 5 people and try to work out tf they just read between classes"


[21-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've tried Hegel's Science of Logic on my own and that was a fucking wild ride.


[21-Apr-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I heard some stuff in there about magnetism and Taoism's yin and yang to support the dialectical notion. But then he'd go on about Kant and I'd lose the thread all together, lol


[21-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
New Vegas needs a remake with what was intended


[21-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Originally it was supposed to be more of an ideological thing between the NCR and Caesar's Legion


[21-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of the best decision clearly being independence or NCR


[21-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always choose NCR


[21-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I know the lore from earlier games


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
I did them all for narrative completion.


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Caesar's Legion does nothing for the Mojave


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Wikiped'd the rest because I was still new to Fallout and didn't get into the older games.


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It gets rid of the degenerates.


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mr. House does more


[21-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can the Boomers run everything


[21-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're my fave


[21-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They got a what, 400+ year old airplane to run again?


[21-Apr-19 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Looking back at Ceasar's defense one thing I will admit is that he lacks the notion of the Absolute. Like he doesn't say anything about the stage of Absolute Freedom, or that final end-of-history stage that Hegelianism accounts for. He takes the synthesis as inevitable, not any new anti-thesis which may arise from it.


[21-Apr-19 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
But it was a nice touch.


[21-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Sierra Madre stuff is just a Bioshock clone


[21-Apr-19 03:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[21-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Old World Blues is the best DLC


[21-Apr-19 03:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
p e n i s    h a n d s


[21-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I stand by saying New Vegas is one of the best video games ever made


[21-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe this more and more when I replay it


[21-Apr-19 03:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine if the devs actually had time with the game.


[21-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe Outer Worlds will give us that


[21-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shame it's Epic Store


[21-Apr-19 03:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:sad:


[21-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll still buy it


[21-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
☠⛵


[21-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My loyalty is easily bought


[21-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just charge me $50 a new game release and not $60


[21-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
buy it when it comes out on steam lol


[21-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That too


[21-Apr-19 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not buying a game when it goes on sale for 75% off, at which point the season pass ordeal of GOTY version is out so you can buy the base game and all its DLC nice and cheap.


[21-Apr-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
And all the release bugs will probably be stomped too. Though you may not get to have fun with any weapons that were initially game breaking.


[21-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone posted how the EGS indirectly takes money from charities


[21-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When they go on Humble Bundle


[21-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Used to be the charity would get 13%


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now they get 3%


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
oof


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
that's EGS for you


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck Pitchford


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
everyone is incredibly up in arms about EGS, and it's documented that it spies on you... so why does anyone use it?


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EGS denied Android Assault Cactus a spot


[21-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They have a rating of 87


[21-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Indies don't get shit on EGS


[21-Apr-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
all you have to do is not buy anything from EGS until they fix their shitty business practices


[21-Apr-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
but people can't manage that it seems


[21-Apr-19 03:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So far Epic have not acquired any game that would be considered competitive so getting a game later won't leave you at a disadvantage if that game is online. Would steam and Epic players even be able to play against each other?


[21-Apr-19 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well given Metro outsold all its predecessors whatever Epic has going it can prove it can work the market and sway studios over to it. So if people want to play games they'll naturally gravitate to where the video games are being sold, and not everyone is hip to "ethical problems" or even cares. Hell, Facebook and Twitter do shit just as bad if not worse and most everyone seems rather numb at the end of the day.


[21-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
steam doesn't even really have a monopoly, they only sell games that exist elsewhere


[21-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just


[21-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Charge me less money


[21-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it that hard


[21-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sure, the Tories used massive amounts of data to make targeted Brexit ads to vulnerable people to deter them or sway them. But that's just a day in the life.


[21-Apr-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
metro outsold its predecessors because its immediate predecessor was popular and no one knew how shitty EGS was at the time exodus released


[21-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just gimme video games at regular price or below


[21-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Apr-19 03:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I would like to see the stats for metro sales. Splitting steam and Epic. Those sales figures could be boosted by consoles as the first two metro games were most popular on PC.


[21-Apr-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Consoles are gonna get pissed at Epic


[21-Apr-19 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
I tried to broach the subject to a rather normie friend of mine and his political position is, "so long as I can say whatever I want, I don't care."


[21-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
An oldie but goodie


[21-Apr-19 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
It'd also be worth pointing out that if fundamentally if this shit was as terrible as we all make it out to be, then companies wouldn't be doing it. But they are, which implies that it's working. And it's working because not a significant portion of the market cares enough to not.


[21-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind video game companies are now just unionizing


[21-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the worst time for it


[21-Apr-19 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is the thing: complaining about Tencent giving your data to the CPC for whatever reason to people who already care is preaching to the choir. Learn to tailor it to raise awareness among the normal consumer and perhaps direct them to other services. Services which don't have the immense capital of Valve or the immense starting capital as Epic.


[21-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a great time to unionize


[21-Apr-19 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
more unions the better


[21-Apr-19 03:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's not enough to "remind" someone like me this shit is bad. Because I'm already there. In fact I'd say I'm already well beyond that point. I don't believe there should be independent private studios anyways. Liquidate this shit to be in the ownership of all developers, and perhaps even gamers themselves. But this requires a whole fundamental shift in how things operate. Everything complained about is just another day under capitalism, I'd posit it's a re-adaptation of the old company store, but we all belong to it now.


[21-Apr-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
gamers rise up


[21-Apr-19 03:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Game developers rise up!


[21-Apr-19 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.gameworkersunite.org/

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[21-Apr-19 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Support your union


[21-Apr-19 03:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Activision is pretty bad to their workers. firing whole teams and keeping a small group of them to microtransaction monetization monkey work.


[21-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I got into an arguement with my friend about how Screed Odyssey was screwing people with XP boost transactions


[21-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Honahue#0656
it artificially lengthens the game for people who don't want to pay


[21-Apr-19 03:47 AM] Honahue#0656
and it costs nothing for Ubi to either increase the XP or put a toggle into a menu


[21-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
but they're charging you for the privledge to level up faster and grind less


[21-Apr-19 03:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
The entire games industry has learned it can earn a profit on things that don't really take much labor, or even consume any resources. It's stuff that's basically free in many ways, but gets a price tag slapped on. In a stability way micro-transactions - particularly in small studios - can be a way to keep a stable revenue stream between large releases. But it gets insane when an entire game is predicated on encouraging and forcing players to make more micro-transactions, transforming the product as less a fun experience, and more towards a continued transactional affair. You just don't pay once any more.


[21-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
that's the huge problem with digital stuff anyway, you have an initial cost but reproducing it is basically free once it's made


[21-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Honahue#0656
1 copy of Screed or 1 million


[21-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Honahue#0656
so they've resorted to these predatory pricing scemes because the upfront cost is pretty high and a dev needs to make constant returns to satisfy the shareholders in the company


[21-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Honahue#0656
that's why CoD is a yearly title now


[21-Apr-19 03:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Doesn't EA's anthem have an AI monitoring loot players received and some guy tricked it by going in and out of a match making the AI think he was not getting any loot and increasing the chance of good loot. Activision also has patens on loot dropping/matchmaking tied to purchases.


[21-Apr-19 03:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Before micro-transactions studios used to release annual junk titles between a major release every five years or so. Then they learned how to do micro-transactions and loot crates so every year can be a major end-all-be-all release. Revenues were unstable before, but only on short term analysis. Over the long term every studio was expanding.


[21-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me


[21-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
micro transactions are as old as games but they used to just amp up the difficultly to make them back in the arcade days


[21-Apr-19 05:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41hKqL5krKE

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[21-Apr-19 05:04 AM] illumnious#7938

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[21-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[21-Apr-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the subject of redactions, my personal read (I'm about 100 pages in atm) has me very interested in what's going to happen with Wikileaks. It was the pages related to that in section 1 that were the most heavily redacted, including one page that they just turned solid black


[21-Apr-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
obviously, he found the evidence needed to convict hillary clinton


[21-Apr-19 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on that note I kinda wanna talk about Papadopolous for a second. My interpretation of his involvement was that he was *so eager* to get Trump to meet Putin that he's more or less responsible for anyone caring whether or not Trump knew about the buttery males


[21-Apr-19 06:08 AM] Honahue#0656
The redactions are supposed to protect sources or on going investigation


[21-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
And with Assange in custody now that's potentially true


[21-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
obviously, hillary clinton is actually still being investigated, but in secret


[21-Apr-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if hillary was forced to drop out and the DNC was stuck with bernie in 2016


[21-Apr-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
they probably would've just quickly replaced her with a stooge that would've been steamrolled by trump even worse than hillary


[21-Apr-19 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, George P. bragged about his russia creds to get a position as a foreign policy advisor to the campaign, he chummed it up to russians to get anything they could, and when one of them confided that they had "dirt" on Hillary he...bragged about that to some Greek ambassador and someone from a "foreign government" which is almost certainly Australia since there's some news going around that they're taking credit for alerting the US government to that whole situation


[21-Apr-19 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then, when people on the campaign started realizing that being really too friendly with Russia was a bad thing, Papadopolous just *kept trying* like an eager puppy and ended up not actually achieving anything but looked super suspicious in the process


[21-Apr-19 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause amazingly, the one group of people he didn't tell about the emails was the campaign itself


[21-Apr-19 06:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The report is also just chock full of people trying to get in touch with each other but failing spectacularly by sending emails to something at something dot "gof" instead of dot "gov," or by googling the credentials of some Russian politician and accidentally thinking he was an olympic weightlifter and so on


[21-Apr-19 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr they were just too stupid to figure out how to conspire with each other


[21-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
my mom claims that because papadopoulos didn't know he was being interrogated that all of the stuff he said shouldn't have been considered evidence


[21-Apr-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except that he did


[21-Apr-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He was the first to flip. He wore *a wire*


[21-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
huh? I thought he rejected that


[21-Apr-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/26/politics/george-papadopoulos-congress-testify/index.html

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[21-Apr-19 06:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hm. Seems I was mistaken on him actually doing that, but nevertheless he was a proactive cooperator


[21-Apr-19 06:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
kinda conflated the two because yeah, proactive cooperators often are


[21-Apr-19 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I kinda wanna know what your mom's take is on Rudy Giuliani saying on CNN that the letter of intent for the Moscow Trump Tower does not constitute doing business


[21-Apr-19 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's amazing to me just how much of this report they're trying to deny, and to their own detriment; like, saying the deal never went through because oh, I dunno, 'the campaign realized that being pro-russia would be damaging, it says so in the report' is a lot more easy to believe than 'this business deal wasn't a business deal because we reneged on it' (paraphrasing, ofc)


[21-Apr-19 07:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://start.att.net/news/read/article/cnn-muellers_report_looks_bad_for_obama-cnn2/category/news

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Scott Jennings writes that a key takeaway from the Mueller report is that Barack Obama's administration failed the United States with its tepid response to Russian interference in our democracy.
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[21-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
... at&t has a news site?


[21-Apr-19 11:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
tfw we've reached the point in video games where cheating is honestly a good thing to double xp rates if you can get away with it in a pay2win after you've already paid out the ass for an AAA game


[21-Apr-19 11:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ayyy, lmao. Learned from the best grifters.

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[21-Apr-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/us/militia-arrest-border-new-mexico.html

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[21-Apr-19 01:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48001720

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Scores die in Sri Lanka church attacks
At least 137 people are killed and hundreds hurt in seven blasts in churches and hotels, as a curfew is announced.
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[21-Apr-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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In expressing his condolences, Trump incorrectly said millions more had died in a deadly series of explosions in Sri Lanka
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[21-Apr-19 03:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQdZQjgGT-I

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Millions Irrationally Feared Dead In Minor Train Accident
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[21-Apr-19 04:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/us-ambassadors-passover-wishes-in-polish-met-with-anger/2019/04/21/61c5edc0-6403-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html?utm_term=.d55df980e8f9


[21-Apr-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being the ass of europe


[21-Apr-19 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1119676970344886272?s=21

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[21-Apr-19 06:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
is that real? or a photoshop?


[21-Apr-19 06:51 PM] illumnious#7938
I’ll say photoshop


[21-Apr-19 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah it looks like it is


[21-Apr-19 06:55 PM] illumnious#7938
To be honest, it is photoshop


[21-Apr-19 06:58 PM] illumnious#7938
And now a fucking message from the one who shutdown the government for nearly two fucking months https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1119955947441524736?s=21

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[21-Apr-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/o17nx9ha9lt21.jpg Come on Ben, just ask her out already

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[21-Apr-19 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938

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[21-Apr-19 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
:faceclaw:


[21-Apr-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
This policy could have only been come up with by someone retarded


[21-Apr-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Wait, I mean intellectually disabled


[21-Apr-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Wait


[21-Apr-19 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone who is seeking inclusion access


[21-Apr-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seeking Intellectual Enlightenment


[21-Apr-19 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chair legging it


[21-Apr-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Also, I don't think people across the pond find the term nigger as offensive as it is in the states


[21-Apr-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[21-Apr-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
So like in Australia there are way worse words for the aboriginals


[21-Apr-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
So... Daily Mail??????


[21-Apr-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s history and baggage is with american slave trade, so it likely doesnt hold as much weight in other countries


[21-Apr-19 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I remember the white South Africans sometimes mocked one indigenous people from their region whose language involved clicking sounds


[21-Apr-19 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They called the Khoisan "hotentots"


[21-Apr-19 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now that is heated


[21-Apr-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also daily mail is a tabloid i beleive


[21-Apr-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I have heard personal anecdotes that South Africans are racist as shit


[21-Apr-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
They have levels of racism there that are like 1850s US


[21-Apr-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
asian countries also get racist as shit towards foreigners,


[21-Apr-19 07:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
When the minority can successfully implement a racist policy for decades, that says a lot


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1119919713600114688?s=21

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[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] illumnious#7938
Wait WHAT?!


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait, whitesouth africans, or black south africans. or just the lot of them?


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
White SA


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm assuming white because they were doing the whole apartheid thing


[21-Apr-19 07:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[21-Apr-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whose country is he talking about?


[21-Apr-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Tbf, most other Asians have nothing on how racist Indians are


[21-Apr-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause it sure as hell isnt america


[21-Apr-19 07:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
My poly sci teacher is saying that Trump is following the policy of Nazi lead propagandist Goebbels: "lie a lot and always lie big"


[21-Apr-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god i;ve heard horror stories of india


[21-Apr-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Good god if they learn for a minute that you're from anywhere close to Pakistan you'll get curbstomped


[21-Apr-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and random accusations in public get you mob murdered


[21-Apr-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
They're trying to pass laws to outlaw  Islam and such


[21-Apr-19 07:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yay for religious conflict ._.


[21-Apr-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wooo


[21-Apr-19 07:38 PM] ononim#8141
BJP is openly nationalist and borderline fash so yeahm "fun" times for India


[21-Apr-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
can you really be "borderline" fascist


[21-Apr-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
you're just fascist


[21-Apr-19 07:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
"your country"
implying it's not Trump's too?


[21-Apr-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e12117b0d26f447dac1e449d25daa2d1

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Ukraine: Exit poll has comedian routing incumbent president
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[21-Apr-19 08:18 PM] Litrojia#0612
bruh


[21-Apr-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Ben wants feet pics first


[21-Apr-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah but he has to ask her out to get feet pics


[21-Apr-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
so he can get her ig and sc


[21-Apr-19 08:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>not hooves


[21-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:lewd:


[21-Apr-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have yet to meet a politician with hooves that wasnt a republican


[21-Apr-19 09:05 PM] Pretty#9306
in my country some idiots want to replace "handicapped" for "functional diversity" (seriously lol) because handicapped is somehow offensive


[21-Apr-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
elect horse


[21-Apr-19 09:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'd vote for someone that runs as a pone over Trump lol


[21-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Same


[21-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd vote for syphilis over Trump :p


[21-Apr-19 09:30 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least if someone runs as Twi, I know they would run on a platform of friendship :twismug:


[21-Apr-19 09:30 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
now if they didn't, I'd have some strong words for them


[21-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[21-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Mikey#7286
If that was the case then


[21-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Mikey#7286
:beheaded: ⚔


[21-Apr-19 09:32 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
~~overthrow the tetrachy, :glimmer: for president~~


[21-Apr-19 09:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Personally I'd vote for Coco so we can finally legalize anal :sosmol:


[21-Apr-19 09:44 PM] Honahue#0656
Syphilis can be treated with antibiotics at least


[21-Apr-19 09:46 PM] RYDE#8862
Mayor Mare for president


[21-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
clown world

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[21-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ReElect20/status/1119991298818281472

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[21-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
wtf lol


[21-Apr-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://teespring.com/proud-gun-owner-2019

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[21-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Litrojia#0612
the fuck's that entire twitter account


[21-Apr-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
since when has private gun ownership defended me


[21-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think very many people in the US have actually argued against banning gun ownership completely


[21-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
only regulating it


[21-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
since the second amendment does guarantee that people can own guns, even if that wasn't its original intent


[21-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
any weapon, even


[21-Apr-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
first privately owned nuclear weapon when


[21-Apr-19 10:32 PM] Honahue#0656
we have the NFA that bans destructive devices like nucc


[21-Apr-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
succ the zucc


[21-Apr-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
smoked meats


[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
however, there are still loop holes


[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEs6i4fwLA

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Forgotten Weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEs6i4fwLA
Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon from San Juan Hill
This Hotchkiss cannon and its accessories are lot #1116 in the upcoming April 2019 Morphy auction: https://www.forgottenweapons.com/hotchkiss-revolving-canno...
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[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
because of it's age and firing mechanism it's not a gun


[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
obviously, the NFA is unconstitutional


[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
it's just an antique


[21-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
💥💥💥


[21-Apr-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if anyone's ever tried to sue to have it overturned


[21-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Honahue#0656
not really, back in the 30's it was an issue cause it cost $200 for the stamp that let you have a short/supressed gun but the price never increased with inflation


[21-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Honahue#0656
also the weird loophole about shotguns, if you never put a full length stock on it because the way it's worded it doesn't count so you can have a short shotgun,


[21-Apr-19 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
it's illegal to saw down the stock to a pistol grip but if it never had anything but a pistol grip it's not a shotgun it's "any other firearm"


[21-Apr-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
what's the big deal about pistol grips, better handling or something?


[21-Apr-19 10:39 PM] Honahue#0656
just shorter


[21-Apr-19 10:40 PM] Honahue#0656
the NFA was a response to gang violence in Prohibition


[21-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Honahue#0656
before the NFA there wasn't any restrictions on what someone could own so full auto guns, shortening shotguns and rifles to hide under a long coat all was legal


[21-Apr-19 10:41 PM] Honahue#0656
supressors but I'm not sure how common those were,


[21-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
no, I mean nowadays, one of the big things that people want to ban is pistol grips on rifles


[21-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Honahue#0656
I thing the Nagant revolver had one and was cool cause it was the only revolver that could


[21-Apr-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
the other one is making it illegal to have full magazines


[21-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
so people are coming up with new grip designs for rifles to get around pistol grip bans


[21-Apr-19 10:43 PM] Honahue#0656
I mean there might be a performance difference between a pistol grip and tradition stock but you'd probably only see it with professionals doing competitions


[21-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/What-do-Californians-think-about-the-ban-on-the-pistol-grip-rifle

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What do Californians think about the ban on the pistol grip rifle?...
There is no ban on pistol grips on rifles in California. Instead, the pistol grip is counted as a feature which is part of how rifles are regulated within the state. As an example, you can have a pistol grip on a bolt action rifle. For example, th...


[21-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1d52ff1deb4f27852c971ce9d3dd5254-c

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[21-Apr-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
this is how people in california are apparently getting around a bunch of regulations on rifle features


[21-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's stupid looking but I don't think it would make the rifle less effective


[21-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like a pistol grip would give the rifle better handling than whatever that thing is lol


[21-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
since it gives you something to actually grab


[21-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Honahue#0656
it's a more comfortable grip position


[21-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Honahue#0656
and the AR is really good about putting all it's recoil into a straight backwards impulse


[21-Apr-19 10:50 PM] Honahue#0656
but again the difference would be only noticeable in a competition


[21-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, not very many people want regulations beyond "don't let crazy people buy guns" and "background check everyone buying guns to make sure they aren't literally going to shoot up their school/workplace/whatever after buying it"


[21-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
which are sane and perfectly reasonable


[21-Apr-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
but because our politicians are being bought out, they're going for insane half-measures that make no sense and don't even solve the problem


[21-Apr-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
also don't let known gangsters buy guns


[21-Apr-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
we missed the time to solve our gun problem by a century


[21-Apr-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
now we gotta deal with it


[21-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
like 90% of the problems that exist in the US today in regards to gun violence has to do with the lack of stringent background checks


[21-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
since the "don't let crazy people buy guns" problem would be solved by stringent background checks


[21-Apr-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
not really


[21-Apr-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
they'd just go steal a gun from their friend


[21-Apr-19 11:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're also missed the boat spectacularly on regulating gun ownership, since guns are effectively ubiquitous in the US. Hence, the only sensible place to focus regulation is on the sale and distribution of firearms


[21-Apr-19 11:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is a problem in its own right because of what byte[] said


[21-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
buyback programs for guns seem to work pretty well


[21-Apr-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but, like, we also don't necessarily have background checks in places where you'd really think there ought to be background checks - like winning guns in raffles


[21-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
at least in other countries


[21-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
iirc there's 130 guns for every 100 americans though, so it'd take a loooot of buybacks to make a dent


[21-Apr-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing with buyback programs here in the US is that they historically haven't worked...the only people willing to give up their guns are the people who aren't causing problems


[21-Apr-19 11:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Plus, the cobra effect


[21-Apr-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think there's a way out


[21-Apr-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
we have to start over


[21-Apr-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Certainly one of the first steps is reducing the fanaticism surrounding gun ownership, and that means nullifying the effect of NRA lobbying if not getting rid of the group entirely


[21-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>putting a stop to lobbying


[21-Apr-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not something that looks good even on paper because all of these "solutions" require authoritarian levels of power


[21-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow wingbeat, didn't know you were A FILTHY COMMIE


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
lel


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
ultimately the constitution is broken


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but also yes I am super-left wing social liberalist


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ultimately one of those "Washington DC gets nuked" movies has to become reality


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
anything left of center is communist in the US


[22-Apr-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
the founding fathers didn't foresee facebook


[22-Apr-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They didn't forsee the two-party system either


[22-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They didn't foresee slaves not bringing them their evening slippers, either


[22-Apr-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
deleting facebook would be a good start to fixing the country


[22-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
country/world


[22-Apr-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
but you also have to delete 4chan


[22-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see no problem with this


[22-Apr-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Along with a couple other major media empires


[22-Apr-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
but without facebook where would we get our s m o k e d m e a t s


[22-Apr-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the zucc demands answers


[22-Apr-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H34QpoJsmrw

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Meat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H34QpoJsmrw
s m o k e these m e a t s
sweet baby rays barbecue sauce, that is going on the ribs
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H34QpoJsmrw/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Apr-19 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
From elon musk's pool


[22-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He really does look like an early 00s CGI demoreel


[22-Apr-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought elon musks's pool and entire backyard were filled with SEC investigators


[22-Apr-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the alopecia


[22-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought it was the black hole reflected in his eyes showing us the complete emptiness of his soul and insatiable hunger for power and knowledge


[22-Apr-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, now I wanna see Mark Zuckerberg with huge, painted-on eyebrows


[22-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that works too I guess


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I think you're confusing musk and zucc


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
musk is just insane


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
zucc is chaotic evil


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
zucc is true neutral


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh god no I don't

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[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He has no soul


[22-Apr-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He just is


[22-Apr-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A squirrel with near infinite power


[22-Apr-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
zucc is lore from star trek without the daddy issues but also possibly with the daddy issues


[22-Apr-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
IS THIS AN ANI-


[22-Apr-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh


[22-Apr-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it does not help facebooks case that it was started as a stalking program


[22-Apr-19 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was started as what linkedin was meant to be, iirc


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A way to get uni graduates jobs based on their networking


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
spiderman spiderman put in the time


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
the original incarnation of facebook?


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When it was private


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it was an e-stalking website


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
made for ranking which girls in the dorms were the hottest


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
eech


[22-Apr-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We just used paper notes for that


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and the girls did the exact same)


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
never underestimate sexually frustrated nerds


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
zucc needed a mroe refined way to stalk women


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] DevField#5162
Now he can just hack into their webcams


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] DevField#5162
:dab:


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that;s why you tape your webcams, people


[22-Apr-19 12:14 AM] DevField#5162
^


[22-Apr-19 12:15 AM] DevField#5162
Had mine taped for the past couple of years


[22-Apr-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you only remove it in the case of an e-meeting


[22-Apr-19 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or just get a laptop without a camera, they still make those


[22-Apr-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s too late


[22-Apr-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i already have one with it


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
take it apart and disconnect it


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t know how and I'm not going to risk killing it to do so


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tape will suffice


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
there's laptops with webcams that have a sliding cover built in


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, that still does nothing for audio


[22-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
so you aren't mucking up your camera lens


[22-Apr-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm


[22-Apr-19 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And ultra-thin ones you can stick on without affecting the ability to close the laptop


[22-Apr-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right we were talking about nuking facebook


[22-Apr-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
considering that a malicious driver can record audio through laptop speakers i don't know what the appropriate amount of effort is to disable potential covert audio recording devices


[22-Apr-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, you *could* get a federalized laptop and cage your phone when you're working in private and so on


[22-Apr-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
this is getting on the level of "build your own hardware and software from the ground up"


[22-Apr-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I think tails is good enough for me


[22-Apr-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the easier thing to do is to just use a desktop pc with nothing like that built in if you're doing personal stuff


[22-Apr-19 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I use my phone for texting and an alarm clock and that's about it


[22-Apr-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've come to accept that the digital age means we're living in a surveillance state


[22-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
I noticed the same thing come up a lot when looking for password managers


[22-Apr-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
lots of people claiming all these different things you have to do to avoid DA GUBMENT getting their passwords and whatnot


[22-Apr-19 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
that can be a legitimate concern when traveling to other countries


[22-Apr-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's important to show the US government that they cannot coerce you to give up your passwords without a valid reason


[22-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder, how will you make sure that OS isn't tapped?


[22-Apr-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
tails


[22-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even if you use phone only for texting and alarms, at some point it it will collect alarms and text info + audio recording unless using *that* nokia


[22-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
if you have a cell phone it's tracking you


[22-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
so don't have a cell phone


[22-Apr-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
probably healthier not to have one anyway


[22-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or rather, move to the middle of nowhere, get a farm and forget tech.


[22-Apr-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
john deere is tracking you too


[22-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait, gardening equipement now comes with IoT crap?


[22-Apr-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if you dont own a john deere product


[22-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Rakes with wifi. Makes sense.


[22-Apr-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The man himself is huntign you in person, he waits in the rafters to pounce


[22-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
I've found my smartphone incredibly useful in sort of niche emergency situations twice so far


[22-Apr-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
I only ever really use my computer at home for stuff though


[22-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
one was where I hit something on the freeway and my tire was destroyed


[22-Apr-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont own a smartphone, mostly because there;s far too many and everytime i try to make a selection I get overwhelmed with choices


[22-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
the other was that I was almost out of gas and had to look for a nearby gas station to get gas from


[22-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have a very old smartphone, pity software made by programmers who havent heard of 640kb memory thing.


[22-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Indeed. Smartphone is a life saver


[22-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
only the smartphone could've solved the second problem though, the first one would've been solved by any cell phone


[22-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
since my insurance has free roadside service


[22-Apr-19 01:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though, still own dedicated offline GPS unit.


[22-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Both of them could be solved this way.


[22-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Pretty#9306
Just pick the latest Xiaomi redmi, can't go wrong with that


[22-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Pretty#9306
Smartphones are extremely useful, they allow you to have an enormous amount of information available to you at all times, you can interact through internet anywhere, it's night and day


[22-Apr-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
did you just unironically recommend xiaomi


[22-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Pretty#9306
Yes


[22-Apr-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
k


[22-Apr-19 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just wanted to make sure you were aware that this conversation was about *not* being spied on by the government


[22-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Pretty#9306
It's cheap, good quality, and if you worry about privacy you install lineage os


[22-Apr-19 01:35 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[22-Apr-19 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think it's necessary to state that Wingbeat lives off a netbook PC with no fixed storage


[22-Apr-19 01:36 AM] ononim#8141
It honestly comes to "do you want to get spied on by the companies and US government or the Chinese government"


[22-Apr-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[22-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His digital existence is a USB stick with a password vault and some wip drawings


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
Wingbeat draw


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, but not much pony anymore


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
hol up


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
you actually draw?


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Pretty#9306
And discord


[22-Apr-19 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
stil*


[22-Apr-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, I've got Discord on a computer separate from anything important


[22-Apr-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's airgapped from my art


[22-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Pretty#9306
What are you worried about?


[22-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yo.


[22-Apr-19 01:40 AM] ononim#8141
Ah, so the only people who will get to see it are Amazon Organ Harvesters when you kick the bucket? :^(


[22-Apr-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nothing, I just had a rather cosmically hilarious series of events where my digital life burned to the ground through a coincidence of data backup loss


[22-Apr-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
derpi survived


[22-Apr-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this was before derpi


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
oh


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh, i see.


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Pretty#9306
How is that related to privacy?


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm less paranoid now but I got used to the convenience of some things


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like having my cookies and browser cache cleared every time I shut down


[22-Apr-19 01:41 AM] ononim#8141
~~what I am saying is I would love to see your new art~~


[22-Apr-19 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe I'll go throw it in another channel


[22-Apr-19 01:42 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I know of one guy that makes 3 backup copies of stuff. One on his external hdd, one on dvd at his friend and one in cloud as encrypted volume.


[22-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Pretty#9306
The DVD is too much, the standard is one copy on another drive and one copy on a different physical location, usually the cloud


[22-Apr-19 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See the funny thing is, I had 2 of those 3 - just not the cloud 'cause it wasn't as convenient back then


[22-Apr-19 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and both failed


[22-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wow.


[22-Apr-19 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
turns out my batch of DVD-Rs I was using for my backups had some issue and all of them corrupted


[22-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Pretty#9306
DVDs are a bad idea for backups


[22-Apr-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, this was over a decade ago


[22-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Pretty#9306
Because they are not convenient and are delicate too


[22-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Pretty#9306
I see


[22-Apr-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This was before SSD had even hit the scene so my portable 2TB drive was a *spinning disc*


[22-Apr-19 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can imagine how that met its end


[22-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Pretty#9306
Well, a few days ago my main drive failed and my backup drive got stuck on the click of death while obtaining the backups


[22-Apr-19 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, right when I was trying to recover what was lost when it click'd I had two USB drives fail - one turned into a silicon heating element and the other one got snapped in half by something hitting it when it was plugged in


[22-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Pretty#9306
Pretty bad luck, but after a few tries it managed to revive so I didn't need to go to the cloud


[22-Apr-19 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even my *digital watch and my flip phone* wasn't spared from the digital gremlins


[22-Apr-19 01:50 AM] Pretty#9306
Lol


[22-Apr-19 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this all happened in the span of two weeks


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is pretty bad.


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, my home computer melted down because *somehow* the BIOS had set the cpu a full volt overvoltage


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I back up all my school shit on gitlab nowadays


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though, DVDs are guaranteed to be read-only


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
but this is because I write everything in LaTeX anyway


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so yeah, I think you can see why I became a digital nomad


[22-Apr-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
and you're expected to use version control with LaTeX


[22-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Pretty#9306
Because you had bad luck


[22-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I heard,svn handles binaries not bad.


[22-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Pretty#9306
And there was no cloud


[22-Apr-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
git handles everything quite well


[22-Apr-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a _rugged_ versioning system (😛)


[22-Apr-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0825ef2d78724857931b917b0c33afdd

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AP sources: US to sanction nations for importing Iranian oil
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is poised to tell five nations, including allies Japan, South Korea and Turkey, that they will no longer be exempt from U.S. sanctions if they continue...
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[22-Apr-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/themay_large.jpg?itok=2kHxUs04

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[22-Apr-19 11:41 AM] ononim#8141
https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1RX03E?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FAFRICAWorldNews+%28News+%2F+AFRICA+%2F+World+News%29

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Bombs kill more than 200 in Sri Lankan churches, hotels on Easter...
More than 200 people were killed and at least 450 injured in bomb blasts that ri...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190421&t=2&i=1379212790&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF3K0HQ


[22-Apr-19 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fc4dd89b31b342069732964f64d2a280

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Sri Lanka blocks social media after Easter Sunday bombings
Sri Lankan authorities flicked the off switch on most social media after Easter Sunday attacks on churches and hotels killed hundreds of people, a dramatic reaction that reflects distrust in the...
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[22-Apr-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/38aca37557e240d08b6c52f0c37aeef8

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US says no more sanctions waivers for importing Iranian oil
The Trump administration said Monday that it will no longer exempt any countries from U.S. sanctions if they continue to buy Iranian oil, stepping up pressure on Iran in a move that primarily...
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[22-Apr-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/04/17/ohio-guards-laughed-supremacist-stabbed-cuffed-black-inmates-suit-says/3502969002/

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'Just let them die': Ohio guards laughed as supremacist stabbed cu...
'Just let them die': Ohio guards laughed as supremacist stabbed cuffed black inmates, suit says
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[22-Apr-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[22-Apr-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
This is even more "jesus fuck"


[22-Apr-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/21/baltimore-police-keith-davis-jr-prosecution/

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Baltimore Police Tried to Kill Keith Davis Jr. Prosecutors Have Be...
Four years after Baltimore police shot him 44 times, Keith Davis Jr. is facing a fourth murder trial.
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[22-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:depressed:


[22-Apr-19 08:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120393189624569856?s=21 he’s back with his bullshit

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120393189624569856?s=21
SOUTHERN BORDER CRISIS! @LouDobbs https://t.co/2w3Qt9p8ER
Retweets
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[22-Apr-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God you can't just post a 7 minute video on Twitter and expect people to watch it wtf


[22-Apr-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fox news agreed with me guys! look look look look! Fox news guys! They agree with me guys!


[22-Apr-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"We'll get a court order and force feed them"


[22-Apr-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I don't really like that


[22-Apr-19 08:33 PM] Eonex#8261
We wuz kings?


[22-Apr-19 08:33 PM] Eonex#8261
...ok, I'm leaving


[22-Apr-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant listen to 1 minute of breitbart let alone 7 minutes


[22-Apr-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the baltimore police are a gang of shit lord garbage fucks


[22-Apr-19 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120388061202976768?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120388061202976768?s=21
Spoke to Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe of Sri Lanka this morning to inform him that the United States stands by him and his country in the fight against terrorism. Also expressed condolences on behalf of myself and the People of the United States!
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[22-Apr-19 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1120394232718663680?s=21 :trixdisgust:

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ABC News (@ABC)
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1120394232718663680?s=21
Asked if he's worried about impeachment, Pres. Trump says, "Not even a little bit." https://t.co/6I4MWk0C1K https://t.co/z7mpyz4z8a
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Twitter


[22-Apr-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course not, he has mcconnell to ensure it never becomes an issue while he's in office


[22-Apr-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we want to get to trump we need to impeach mcconnell and I dont know how impeaching a member of the senate works much less it;s majority leader


[22-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440006-trump-nobody-disobeys-my-orders

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Trump: 'Nobody disobeys my orders'
President Trump on Monday said "nobody disobeys" his orders after special counsel Robert Mueller wrote in his report that Trump attempted to influence the Russia investigation but was unsuccessful because his aides didn't follo
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_041919getty.jpg


[22-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Disobeying his orders is partially why things turned out fine for him, lel


[22-Apr-19 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
I’ll keep posting this one up

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[22-Apr-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
why


[22-Apr-19 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
It just too funny


[22-Apr-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://theweek.com/speedreads/836638/read-house-speaker-pelosis-letter-democratic-colleagues-about-mueller-report

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Read House Speaker Pelosi's letter to her Democratic colleagues ab...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) isn't ruling anything out.
Pelosi addressed her Democratic colleagues on Monday with a letter detailing how she thinks the party should proceed following last week's public release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on 2016 Russia...
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[22-Apr-19 08:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Off topic https://cnn.it/2ZsWIcn

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How permanent daylight saving time and later school starts could a...
About 70 countries around the world nudge their clocks back and forth each year -- but some people want to "spring forward" permanently, citing health and other benefits.
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[22-Apr-19 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi is just stalling


[22-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Daylight Savings Time. Saving what?


[22-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God people will not shut up about that MK11 ending


[22-Apr-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Gamers: We're not offended by anything. We say the N-word online!


[22-Apr-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also gamers: y mortal kombat studio send black man back in time to end slavery, this is whyte genocide.


[22-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just confused


[22-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is also the group that holds opinions like slavery wasn't bad/Democrats did it anyway/the Jews started it


[22-Apr-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Apr-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Confirmed: left is still punk and edgy.


[22-Apr-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to be punk and edgy, be lefty.


[22-Apr-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbmWs6Jf5dc

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Juusemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbmWs6Jf5dc
Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK
Okay... Over 1 millon views. Amazing! ---- From Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols album. Relased at 1977. Genre: Punk Rock LYRICS: Right ! now ...
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[23-Apr-19 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk what's the sauce of that pic, sounds hilarious


[23-Apr-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/04/jaxs-mortal-kombat-11-tower-ending-gets-woke/82613/


[23-Apr-19 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
lol, thanks


[23-Apr-19 01:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[23-Apr-19 01:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Totally normal police


[23-Apr-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Those ten year olds are a hella threat


[23-Apr-19 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/d2e48f91014a6c5bb7e6b467c7868796/tumblr_pq9nbxHZPl1qdis6z_500.jpg

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[23-Apr-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4cd638f46eb04906819be649163185b7

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Sri Lanka military gets special powers after deadly bombings
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) — Sri Lanka's president gave the military sweeping police powers starting Tuesday in the wake of the Easter bombings that killed nearly 300 people, while officials...
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[23-Apr-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6ae6731e1c4e46f1807d8c9bdb43815a

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Medicare, Social Security face shaky fiscal futures
WASHINGTON (AP) — The financial condition of the government's bedrock retirement programs for middle- and working-class Americans remains shaky, with Medicare pointed toward insolvency by 2026,...
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[23-Apr-19 01:56 AM] ononim#8141
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/19/health/school-threats-lockdown-effects/index.html

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What school threats and lockdowns are doing to a generation of chi...
Schools across the country are facing the possibility of security threats. Many have plans in place and run drills to prepare for the unthinkable. But lockdown drills and the constant discussion of danger can confuse an traumatize children. And it doesn't necessarily make the...
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[23-Apr-19 01:57 AM] ononim#8141
```
That night, Vanessa seemed to be coping with just fine. But as her mother, Shelley Harrison Reed, changed Vanessa out of her uniform, she noticed the chilling message in purple marker.
"Why did you write that on your arm?" Reed asked.
"In case the bad guy got to us and I got killed, you and Daddy would know that I love you," Vanessa said. It was then that the girl began to cry. 
```


[23-Apr-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
aaahhh javascript


[23-Apr-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://2h7qju2c3qvcc3s86ekn8n0-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/philly/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/04/scott-e1555690182619.jpg

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[23-Apr-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
(after a transwoman hosted a presentation)


[23-Apr-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
designated


[23-Apr-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's right, that presentation wasn;t satanic enough. It needed far more baby sacrifces and summoning circles


[23-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow


[23-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/20/matt-shea-rightwing-messages-chat-records

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/20/matt-shea-rightwing-messages-chat-records
Republican discussed violent attacks and surveillance with rightwi...
Washington state representative Matt Shea exchanged messages with far-right figures, chat records obtained by the Guardian reveal
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[23-Apr-19 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"liberty state"


[23-Apr-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a super delluded name


[23-Apr-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
liberty: the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
From the sounds of it they want the opposite of that


[23-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/kS-lwg8ose0

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Cleaner-K
https://youtu.be/kS-lwg8ose0
Politics portrayed by Spongebob
I don't claim ownership of the content I used. The video is for entertainment purposes only. Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purpose...
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[23-Apr-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1120495774754799616

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The Hill (@thehill)
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1120495774754799616
WATCH: Klobuchar pauses for CNN town hall audience: "That's when you guys are supposed to cheer, OK?" https://t.co/Q4pBXHUOu9
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Twitter


[23-Apr-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🅱️LEASE CLAP


[23-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
Amy!


[23-Apr-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2020's version of Bobby Jindal.


[23-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actual Democratic contenders are down to five at most


[23-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders, Biden, Buttigieg, Warren, and Harris


[23-Apr-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In that order


[23-Apr-19 05:50 AM] Litrojia#0612
Ehh, we're still the better part of a year away from the primary. Other candidates have plenty of time to gain steam like Buttigieg did.


[23-Apr-19 05:53 AM] Litrojia#0612
There hasn't been much swing in popularity otherwise yet, but with debates and some more campaigning, there will be more opportunity


[23-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
what about beto?


[23-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
both beto and buttigieg seem like just young bidens to me


[23-Apr-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
other than buttigieg being gay


[23-Apr-19 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Waiting for a debate topic to come down to whether or not the Contras were good people.


[23-Apr-19 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meme this shit up


[23-Apr-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
These hawk Dems gotta have a pro-Contra history to dab on


[23-Apr-19 05:55 AM] Litrojia#0612
Beto seemed like he had a good deal of insider support, though Buttigieg has stolen his demographic a bit lately. It'll be interesting to see how that pans out.


[23-Apr-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bettobot and Buttbot


[23-Apr-19 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
Beto's a guy who's only notable accomplishment is being born into a wealthy family


[23-Apr-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
the only person running who seems to be able to actually back up their claims with previous actions is bernie


[23-Apr-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
the rest are flip-floppers who will say whatever to get elected, or have a history of not practicing what they currently preach


[23-Apr-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-22/ukraine-elects-comedian-for-president-and-australia-wants-in/11034992

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'Micallef for PM': These are the comedians you think should be our...
A TV comedian is on track to become Ukraine's next president, prompting many Australians to ask: if they can do it, why can't we?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11035362-16x9-700x394.jpg


[23-Apr-19 11:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It seems there is trend for actors to get into politics.


[23-Apr-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://time.com/5575602/trump-touts-border-wall-to-children-easter/

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President Trump Bragged About the Border Wall to a Group of Childr...
'Oh it’s happening, it’s being built now,' he said while coloring with kids
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/trump-easter-egg-roll-border-wall.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[23-Apr-19 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/us/politics/trump-sues-congress.html

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By NICHOLAS FANDOS and ANNIE KARNI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/us/politics/trump-sues-congress.html
Trump and His Businesses Sue House Democrats to Hide Accounting Re...
President Trump and his businesses sued the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee to quash a subpoena seeking his financial records.
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[23-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's not even possible


[23-Apr-19 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
you can't sue to block congress from doing its job


[23-Apr-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet, he will try, and fail


[23-Apr-19 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesn;t let big words like "Law" and "legality" get in his way. Heck, he doesn't even know what those words mean. He will barrel through in an attempt to protect all he holds dear, his money, his money, and his money


[23-Apr-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the fact that the trump businesses are suing congress along with trump, should be some kind of illegal right?


[23-Apr-19 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chalking-tires-enforce-parking-rules-unconstitutional-court-finds-n997326

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Chalking tires to enforce parking rules is unconstitutional, court...
Marking your tires with chalk is trespassing, not law enforcement, the federal appeals panel said in a Michigan case.
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[23-Apr-19 01:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is this for?


[23-Apr-19 01:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/570211860469514250/D4w6Tk8WkAAlB9M.png

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[23-Apr-19 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/militia-border-far-right-clinton-soros-f05347b82a6f/

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Luke Barnes
https://thinkprogress.org/militia-border-far-right-clinton-soros-f05347b82a6f/
Militia patrolling U.S. border was allegedly training to kill Hill...
Larry Hopkins of the United Constitutional Patriots was arrested on Saturday.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-907164044.jpg?w=1920&h=1080&crop=1


[23-Apr-19 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
>The leader of the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), a militia group that filmed itself detaining asylum seekers near the U.S.-Mexico border last week, embraced the same rhetoric used by other far-right extremists, including allegedly saying his group was plotting to assassinate Hillary Clinton and George Soros, as well as making a reference to the sovereign citizen movement.


[23-Apr-19 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
the fascists are plotting to kill the people they don't agree with now


[23-Apr-19 01:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*No, actually, you are the real fascist because you're being so opposed and uncivil towards them. Get better, you extremist!*


[23-Apr-19 01:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, 
>killing Hillary and Soros


[23-Apr-19 01:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh noes


[23-Apr-19 01:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What will we do when our two great hivemind leaders die?


[23-Apr-19 01:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We'll be deactivated!


[23-Apr-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/354320ae7110498ab41602f663ce6bbe

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Sri Lanka minister: Easter bombings a response to NZ attacks
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) — A top Sri Lanka official on Tuesday called the Easter attack on churches, hotels and other sites "retaliation" for the shooting massacre by a white supremacist at two New...
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[23-Apr-19 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
javascript https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/22/npm_fired_staff_union_complaints/

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/22/npm_fired_staff_union_complaints/
NPM is Not Particularly Magnanimous? Staff fired after trying to u...
Plus: Employee diversity, harassment brouhahas within Microsoft, Google
https://regmedia.co.uk/2017/04/20/shutterstock_strike_bullhorn.jpg


[23-Apr-19 06:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/23/apple-facial-recognition-false-arrest-lawsuit/

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https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/23/apple-facial-recognition-false-arrest-lawsuit/
Teenager sues Apple for $1bn, claiming facial recognition led to f...
A teenager from New York has filed a $1 billion lawsuit against Apple over his false arrest.
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[23-Apr-19 06:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-muncy-township-meat-grinder-death-economy-locker-storage-company-1403285

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Woman dies in meat grinder at Pennsylvania processing plant
“This was a horrible accident,” county coroner Charles Kiessling Jr. told local media.
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[23-Apr-19 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
understaffed underpaid overworked employee made mistake


[23-Apr-19 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
hm I wonder how this could have been prevented 🤔


[23-Apr-19 06:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120439873226399751?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1120439873226399751?s=21
This should NEVER happen to another President AGAIN! https://t.co/9fnYIzjKQX
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Twitter


[23-Apr-19 06:19 PM] illumnious#7938
What about you?


[23-Apr-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cdf2ba06e37648dfaae3966c5cd6a630

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North Korea's Kim will go into Putin summit needing a win
TOKYO (AP) — When North Korean leader Kim Jong Un meets with Russian President Vladimir Putin for their first one-on-one meeting, he will have a long wish list and a strong desire to notch a win...
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[23-Apr-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f77feb98576641f8ba3ec7d5b855aa65

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US move to end Iran exemptions sending oil prices higher
FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — Oil prices have struck 2019 highs in the the wake of the U.S. move to impose sanctions on countries that buy Iranian oil, and analysts said Tuesday that oil could get...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:5948168a5843464b8375004bfdae1763/3000.jpeg


[23-Apr-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bringing us back to the OPEC boycott days


[23-Apr-19 07:10 PM] illumnious#7938
1970s in a nutshell


[23-Apr-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/byjSlBa trumps on another media tirade again

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In case you missed it, the Dotard with dementia just made 7 tweets in one hour, all attacking the free press, the very free press that the Mueller report confirmed has been accurate all along!
He is literally tweeting his enemies ln real time
https://i.imgur.com/NOdMtABh.jpg


[23-Apr-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more in link


[23-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol calm down


[23-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should have limited speech rights


[23-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people already do


[23-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol did he just quote Bill Clinton


[23-Apr-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah I have no idea whats going on with the title there


[23-Apr-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that dude needs to chill


[23-Apr-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, donald trump at this point keeps going in circles with his tirades


[23-Apr-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
harley davidson isnt even relevent anymore and he;s still raging at them


[23-Apr-19 08:43 PM] illumnious#7938

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[23-Apr-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder in the Anarchy of Revolutionary Catalonia factory accidents took a nose dive because workers in their collective self management eliminated all unsafe practices while boosting productivity over pre-revolution levela


[23-Apr-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Objectivist, Anarcho-Capitalist philosophy it melts the fuck down the moment it's tried


[23-Apr-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously

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Column: This is what happens when you take Ayn Rand seriously
The core of Ayn Rand's philosophy is that unfettered self-interest is good and altruism is destructive. So what if we indeed allowed ourselves to be blinded to all but our own self-interest?
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/02/6790466842_5c7c12c3b4_b.jpg


[23-Apr-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48019192

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Myanmar top court denies reporters' appeal
Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo have their seven year sentences upheld by the country's Supreme Court.
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[23-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theonion.com/computer-scientists-say-ai-s-underdeveloped-ethics-have-1834209623

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Computer Scientists Say AI’s Underdeveloped Ethics Have Yet To M...
CAMBRIDGE—Amid the tech industry’s efforts to eliminate the biases recently observed in facial recognition software and other intelligent algorithms, the nation’s leading computer scientists announced Monday that even the most advanced AI technologies still demonstrate ...
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[23-Apr-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"“They are advanced enough to realize their own individuality, but for whatever reason, it is difficult to make them realize that other sentient entities are individuals as well, so they default to selfishness as a virtue."


[23-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not an accurate depiction; does not say "What if the child consents"


[23-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/media/abigail-disney-bob-iger-pay/index.html

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Roy Disney's granddaughter thinks Bob Iger's paycheck is 'insane'
Disney CEO Bob Iger made nearly $66 million last year, and a Disney family member thinks that's "insane."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190422075604-abigail-disney-bob-iger-split-super-tease.jpg


[23-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
>Abigail Disney, the granddaughter of company co-founder Roy Disney, criticized Iger's multimillion dollar pay in several tweets on Sunday. Roy Disney was Walt Disney's brother.


[23-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
>"When he got his bonus last year, I did the math, and I figured out that he could have given personally, out of pocket, a 15% raise to everyone who worked at Disneyland, and still walked away with $10 million," Disney said, according to Fast Company, at an event Thursday. She added that Iger's level of pay has a "corrosive effect on society."


[23-Apr-19 10:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh fuck you, you're a Disney. You should get nothing like Iger.


[23-Apr-19 10:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
That said she's right about boss paychecks.


[23-Apr-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
I did the math for Home Depot and if we nuked the C-Suite and held revenues for ourselves everyone could have gotten 27k this past year


[23-Apr-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/440108-trump-poised-to-roll-back-transgender-health-protections

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Trump poised to roll back transgender health protections
The Trump administration appears ready to roll back health care protections for transgender people, and advocates are gearing up for a fight.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/transgenderhealthcare_042219genderspectrumcollection.jpg


[23-Apr-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[23-Apr-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I must make america great again by just killing everyone!"


[23-Apr-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's the best plan!"


[23-Apr-19 11:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Systematically kill everyone for the purpose of resetting America ☝


[23-Apr-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be a lot simpler to jsut turn the nukes onourselves, but that would risk hitting trump and we cant risk that


[23-Apr-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even as someone who memes about a new Terror, that's a bit too much.


[23-Apr-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm only sending fascists to the blade!


[23-Apr-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The house elves got too many socks from obama, now Trump is trying to just take back all the socks and put thme back in the hosue keeping force


[23-Apr-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I say that like he;s read harry potter, which he has likely not evne watched the movies


[24-Apr-19 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/netanyahu-golan-settlement-trump-1287655

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Netanyahu calls for new Golan settlement named for Trump
Netanyahu said there was a “need to express our appreciation” to the president.
https://static.politico.com/29/ce/47fb3ebb47af91834d457b27984b/190423-netanyahu-gty-773.jpg


[24-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/nyregion/opioid-crisis-drug-trafficking-rochester.html

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By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/nyregion/opioid-crisis-drug-trafficking-rochester.html
For First Time, Pharmaceutical Distributor Faces Federal Criminal ...
The charges against the wholesaler, Rochester Drug Cooperative, and two of its former executives marked a new tactic for prosecutors in tackling the epidemic of addiction to prescription painkillers.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/24/nyregion/23opioid001/23opioid01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[24-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-faces-heat-for-saying-people-should-be-able-to-vote-from-prison/2019/04/23/44bd4d98-65e0-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?utm_term=.ffbe8506bcb8


[24-Apr-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/navy-seals-crimes-of-war.html

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By DAVE PHILIPPS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/navy-seals-crimes-of-war.html
Navy SEALs Were Warned Against Reporting Their Chief for War Crimes
The Navy investigation of a highly decorated platoon leader who now faces court-martial found a subculture that prized aggression and protected wrongdoers.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/17/us/00seals-01/00seals-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[24-Apr-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>there are veterans selling "free Gallagher" shirts


[24-Apr-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is quite horrifying


[24-Apr-19 01:58 AM] Macarou#9574
Gallagher? Is that their chief's name?


[24-Apr-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[24-Apr-19 01:59 AM] Macarou#9574
Ah. I can't read the article, apparently I am out of my free article uses. For a second, i thought they meant the comedian


[24-Apr-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
incognito tab


[24-Apr-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
though honestly consider subscribing to the ny times


[24-Apr-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
good investment


[24-Apr-19 02:08 AM] Macarou#9574
Maybe I would,  had I the capacity right now to buy things. But I still lack work, and must live off what the family allows me


[24-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/22/bernie-felons-vote-bomber-assault/ so this is interesting

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Bernie Comes Out For The Right To Vote For Terrorists And Rapists
Bernie Sanders revealed that he believes all Americans over the age of 18 should be given the right to vote, including felons such as terrorists and rapists.
https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screen-Shot-2019-04-22-at-10.11.04-PM-e1555985521517.png


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the one hand, it sounds kinda creepy to your average Murican joe


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Chief Gallagher told Chief Swarts about his looming investigation and said he felt he could not trust anyone any more. When Chief Swarts responded that he never thought SEALs would report one another, Chief Gallagher replied, “Me either, those days are gone.”


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the other hand, it's still compatible with the rights defined by the US constitution


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you have served your sentence


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is zero reason to deny you your rights


[24-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
apparently he thinks those _in jail_ should be allowed


[24-Apr-19 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) massive respect for the seals who called him out


[24-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex felons who served a non violent felony offense should he able to own guns too


[24-Apr-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i respect them too, there;s too many institutions right now playing by the "sni9tches get stitches" rule


[24-Apr-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder why americans are having a hard time trusting and respecting law enforcement when they run by mafia rule


[24-Apr-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[24-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Macarou#9574
What did these two even do? I can't read the article to find out, the paywall stops me. What happened with these SEALs?


[24-Apr-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll try and find you a non paywalled version


[24-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Macarou#9574
Thanks dear


[24-Apr-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/04/22/what-motivated-fellow-seals-to-dime-out-eddie-gallagher/

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What motivated fellow SEALs to dime out Eddie Gallagher?
The fog of war swirls through the reams of internal files provided to Navy Times.
https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/FWe9BK50zXbCnmYHeiYJW274cgQ=/1200x630/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/STH6AQTLH5DKVDE4X2RRY3JI6Q.jpg


[24-Apr-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically he went war crazy and just killed a fuckton of civillians and a war prisoner they captured


[24-Apr-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne his troop tired to report him and got told to shut the fuck up, so thye had to go to authorities outside the navy to get anything done


[24-Apr-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile conservative politicians and trump are trying to set the guy free because he;s exactly what thye like in a soldier


[24-Apr-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone willing to mass murder entire crowds of foreigners


[24-Apr-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/trumps-taxes-1924-law-gives-congress-authority-to-see-returns

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Trump’s taxes: 1924 law gives Congress authority to see returns
If Democrats in Congress succeed in their quest to get Donald Trump to cough up his tax returns, they’ll have another Republican president to thank: Warren G. Harding.
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[24-Apr-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, they're demonstrating pretty well that they've found a way to circumvent the power of the system


[24-Apr-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'll see


[24-Apr-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this may end up going all the way to the supreme court which it will thne be anyone;s guess whether hsi stacking will have worked or not in his favor


[24-Apr-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
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[24-Apr-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
I stumbled upon this and as usual this fucked me up and as coping i amg oing to share this


[24-Apr-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
Nothing graphic shown but still pretty heavy


[24-Apr-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
and on another fucked up note


[24-Apr-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
https://leningrad-oblast.tumblr.com/post/184391785976/the-son-of-the-israeli-prime-minister-posted

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Huge, Sharp, New
https://leningrad-oblast.tumblr.com/post/184391785976/the-son-of-the-israeli-prime-minister-posted
Huge, Sharp, New
You left out the best part
https://66.media.tumblr.com/99ac1980c0f7efe1bd1d4034638b9135/tumblr_pqf9rbyVDX1ub906l_1280.jpg


[24-Apr-19 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
```The son of the israeli prime minister posted photos of ruins from the ethnically cleansed depopulated palestinian village Lifta, gloating over the violence```


[24-Apr-19 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/761817f3a646377949321d2df3608e4a/tumblr_pqf9pqBe6s1vmeux1_500.jpg

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[24-Apr-19 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
https://69.media.tumblr.com/99ac1980c0f7efe1bd1d4034638b9135/tumblr_pqf9rbyVDX1ub906l_500.jpg

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[24-Apr-19 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/bg2mma/ukraine_election_2019_map_green_selenskyj_red/?depth=1

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r/MapPorn - Ukraine Election 2019 map (Green -> Selenskyj, Red -> ...
102 votes and 48 comments so far on Reddit
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[24-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
what do these colors mean


[24-Apr-19 03:16 AM] ononim#8141
Green - Zelensky (funny because the root of his surnmae is Green), Red - Poroshenko, gray - Occupied Territories


[24-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
who are zelensky and poroshenko?


[24-Apr-19 03:17 AM] ononim#8141
I love how Novorosya parts of Ukraine and Crimea are grayed but apparently there were people in Russia proper who voted


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] ononim#8141
New Ukrainian President and former Ukrainian President respectivelly


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
is the new one a fascist or a commie?


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] ononim#8141
Zelensky is a TV commedian with zero administrative or political expierence


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
(hyperbole)


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I remember hearing about that


[24-Apr-19 03:18 AM] ononim#8141
won like 70+% of the vote in second tour


[24-Apr-19 03:19 AM] ononim#8141
afaik he;s more libertariansih


[24-Apr-19 03:19 AM] ononim#8141
pro legalisation of gambling and prostitution iirc


[24-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
legalization of prostitution has been proven to reduce crime rates and corruption, so that isn't so bad


[24-Apr-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure about the effects of legalizing gambling though


[24-Apr-19 03:26 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/22/us-un-resolution-rape-weapon-of-war-veto

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Exclusive: US warns it will reject measure over language on sexual health in latest example of hardline abortion stance
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[24-Apr-19 03:27 AM] ononim#8141
```> because of opposition from the US, Russia and China, which opposed creating a new monitoring body.```


[24-Apr-19 03:27 AM] ononim#8141
ah, the usual suspects


[24-Apr-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look the war obsessed countries are fighting to keep war as it is


[24-Apr-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a surprise


[24-Apr-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/mar/18/trump-administration-ignoring-human-rights-monitors-aclu

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Trump administration ignoring human rights monitors, ACLU tells UN
Watchdog delivers scathing appraisal to UN council as total of unanswered rapporteur requests rises to 22
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[24-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240685320352432128/489951352294866945/Capitalism1.png

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[24-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240685320352432128/489951387803713556/Capitalism2.png

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[24-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr call out rich companies for being shitty, get your online voice silenced


[24-Apr-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it wrong that i only know of reiduran for his pony smut


[24-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DutUxibWoAE-PNH.jpg:orig

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[24-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/centurylink-blocks-internet-access-falsely-claims-state-law-required-it/

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/centurylink-blocks-internet-access-falsely-claims-state-law-required-it/
CenturyLink blocked its customers’ Internet access in order to s...
Utah customers were booted offline until they acknowledged security software ad.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/getty-centurylink-van-760x380.jpg


[24-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
"CenturyLink falsely claimed that it was required to do so by a Utah state law that says ISPs must notify customers "of the ability to block material harmful to minors." In fact, the new law requires only that ISPs notify customers of their filtering software options "in a conspicuous manner"; it does not say that the ISPs must disable Internet access until consumers acknowledge the notification. The law even says that ISPs may make the notification "with a consumer's bill," which shouldn't disable anyone's Internet access."


[24-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
back in december, but yeesh


[24-Apr-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"harmful to minors"


[24-Apr-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ur mum is harmful to minors


[24-Apr-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[24-Apr-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOT EEM


[24-Apr-19 04:22 AM] RYDE#8862
Harmful to minors.... Hmm🤔


[24-Apr-19 04:23 AM] RYDE#8862
Thank Celestia that I don't live in Utah.


[24-Apr-19 12:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
God CenturyLink is awful


[24-Apr-19 12:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yoh, and I thought Russia is bad.


[24-Apr-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3vorb8/til_of_fagging_a_practice_in_british_private/

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r/todayilearned - TIL of "fagging", a practice in British private ...
1,505 votes and 165 comments so far on Reddit


[24-Apr-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141

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[24-Apr-19 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh


[24-Apr-19 01:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/04/saudi-arabia-37-put-to-death-in-shocking-execution-spree/

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Saudi Arabia executes 37 people in shocking execution spree
At least 104 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia so far this year
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[24-Apr-19 01:49 PM] ononim#8141
```
The execution of 37 people convicted on “terrorism” charges marks an alarming escalation in Saudi Arabia’s use of the death penalty, said Amnesty International today. Among those put to death was a young man who was convicted of a crime that took place while he was under the age of 18.

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The majority of those executed were Shi’a men who were convicted after sham trials that violated international fair trial standards which relied on confessions extracted through torture.

They include 11 men who were convicted of spying for Iran and sentenced to death after a grossly unfair trial. At least 14 others executed were convicted of violent offences related to their participation in anti-government demonstrations in Saudi Arabia’s Shi’a majority Eastern Province between 2011 and 2012. The 14 men were subjected to prolonged pre-trial detention and told the court that they were tortured or otherwise ill-treated during their interrogation in order to have ‘confessions’ extracted from them.

Also among those executed is Abdulkareem al-Hawaj – a young Shi’a man who was arrested at the age of 16 and convicted of offences related to his involvement in anti-government protests. Under international law, the use of the death penalty against people who were under the age of 18 at the time of the crime is strictly prohibited.
```


[24-Apr-19 02:22 PM] Pretty#9306
Lovely country


[24-Apr-19 02:28 PM] Pretty#9306
Money > human rights


[24-Apr-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm half surprised they havent resurrected gladiator combat


[24-Apr-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but instead of champions they jsut have rich elite bet on winners and then kill the winner after the match is over and the winner has killed the loser for them


[24-Apr-19 02:33 PM] Pretty#9306
Nah, the Romans were more advanced than these people


[24-Apr-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, They demand instant gratification deaths over entertaining combat


[24-Apr-19 02:42 PM] Pretty#9306
At least the Romans managed to create a decent legal system and a somehow democratic government, on Saudi Arabia only has the Royal family and the Sharia law


[24-Apr-19 02:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Pretty Dash


[24-Apr-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[24-Apr-19 02:48 PM] Pretty#9306
Pretty Dash?


[24-Apr-19 03:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[24-Apr-19 03:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
She's pretty


[24-Apr-19 03:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/russia-2020-election-trump.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/russia-2020-election-trump.html
In Push for 2020 Election Security, Top Official Was Warned: Don...
As homeland security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen became increasingly worried about Russian attempts to influence the 2020 election. But she couldn’t discuss it at high-level White House meetings.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/19/us/politics/19dc-hack2/19dc-hack2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
>In the months before Kirstjen Nielsen was forced to resign, she tried to focus the White House on one of her highest priorities as homeland security secretary: preparing for new and different Russian forms of interference in the 2020 election.


[24-Apr-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
>President Trump’s chief of staff told her not to bring it up in front of the president.


[24-Apr-19 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
>But in a meeting this year, Mick Mulvaney, the White House chief of staff, made it clear that Mr. Trump still equated any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory. According to one senior administration official, Mr. Mulvaney said it “wasn’t a great subject and should be kept below his level.”


[24-Apr-19 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
literal fucking baby-in-chief in the white house


[24-Apr-19 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a petulent child


[24-Apr-19 03:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/convicted-ringleader-texas-dragging-death-executed-62590610

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Convicted ringleader in Texas dragging death to be executed
John William King dragged a man for 3 miles behind his truck.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_6bea79baec4e4527b96b14a07ef0801b_16x9_992.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:depressed:


[24-Apr-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48032286

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UK to allow Huawei to help build 5G
The US wants its intelligence allies, including the UK, to exclude the Chinese telecoms giant.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/D0F8/production/_106569435_huawei_event_alamy.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:35 PM] Crow#5457
wow, the UK actually is retarded


[24-Apr-19 03:35 PM] Crow#5457
huawei's newest phone has been confirmed to be contacting chinese servers


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let's build an entire infrustructure on chinese spyware, there;s no way this will backfire!"


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3685669

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Update: New Huawei P30 Pro found to be queryi... | Taiwan News
Brand new Huawei P30 Pro found to be sending queries and possibly data to Chinese government servers.Brand new Huawei P30 Pro found to be sending queries and transferring data to Chinese government servers.
https://tnimage.taiwannews.com.tw/photos/2019/5cbd7cc2d078c.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but 5g is a 5g


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
>The apparent owner of the Huawei P30 Pro posted an update on his website in which he says he now thinks that the DNS requests were not initiated by the phone, but rather occurred as the result of Baidu searches. He said he believes that the DNS queries to beian.gov.cn occurred when he used Baidu to carry out searches.


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
>This does, however, raise the question as to why Baidu searches are sending data to China's Ministry of Public Security and is indicative of the close relationship between "private companies" such as Baidu and Alibaba and the authoritarian communist regime.


[24-Apr-19 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
it wasn't the phone itself


[24-Apr-19 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
it was whatever baidu is


[24-Apr-19 03:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
baidu is a search engine


[24-Apr-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baidu

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Baidu
Baidu, Inc. (Chinese: 百度; pinyin: Bǎidù, anglicized  BY-doo), incorporated on January 18, 2000, is a Chinese multinational technology company specializing in Internet-related services and products and artificial intelligence (AI), headquartered at the Baidu Campus in Be...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/Baidu.svg/1200px-Baidu.svg.png


[24-Apr-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/23/foxconn-wisconsin-governor-tony-evers-renegotiating-letter.html

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Foxconn and Wisconsin are renegotiating their massive factory deal...
The disclosure comes in a letter from Governor Tony Evers to Foxconn executive Louis Woo, a special assistant to Chairman Terry Gou and the company's point person on the project.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/07/05/105312703-1530807332552gettyimages-872644446.1910x1000.jpeg


[24-Apr-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
>In 2017, amid great fanfare including a White House ceremony including President Trump, Foxconn officials and then-Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, the company announced plans for a $10 billion manufacturing complex outside Racine, Wisconsin, with the promise of 13,000 new jobs. In return, the state promised $4.5 billion in incentives, as well as infrastructure improvements in the state.


[24-Apr-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
>Since then, the program appears to have stalled and the company has announced changes in the product mix at the facility. After Woo suggested earlier this year that the company was scaling back its plans, the President reportedly intervened, and the company announced plans to break ground later this year.


[24-Apr-19 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what are they manufacturing?


[24-Apr-19 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
LCDs


[24-Apr-19 03:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/border-patrol-finds-abandoned-toddler-phone-number-his-shoes-border-n997711

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Border Patrol finds abandoned toddler with name, phone number on shoes
Agents have taken the three-year-old boy to a U.S. border station and are trying to find his parents using the number written on his shoes, officials said.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2832436/190423-customs-border-protection-migrant-boy-computer-se-630p_3f4c537234722db1122666d93ce3c0f7.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-met-twitter-ceo-white-house/story?id=62584619

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Trump meets with Twitter CEO at the White House
President Donald Trump met with Jack Dorsey, the CEO of his favorite online platform, Twitter, on Tuesday in the Oval Office.
“Lots of subjects discussed regarding their platform, and the world of social media in general,” the president said, of course, in a tweet. "Look ...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Business/jack-dorsey-file-gty-jef-190416_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/california-couple-arrested-locking-toddlers-cages-police/story?id=62591859

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Couple arrested after locking toddlers in 'cages,' police say
Detectives found drugs, guns and the twin boys locked in cribs that were modified to operate as "secured cages."
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/children-cages-ho-mo-20190424_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[24-Apr-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
I fucking hate how you have to decide whenever you want US gov or Chinease gov to have unlimited asccess to information about you when buying a phone


[24-Apr-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can;t just have a phone, gotta have a spyware communication device as well


[24-Apr-19 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Easy, just don't buy a phone


[24-Apr-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's easy for me, There;s too many phones for me to ever make a selection


[24-Apr-19 03:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Buy some older phone


[24-Apr-19 03:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but they still can listen your calls and sms\


[24-Apr-19 03:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Make your own phone and also your own cell towers and mobile phone network. EZ


[24-Apr-19 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
within the decade, saying "just don't buy a phone" will be on the same level as saying "just don't buy electricity"


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ha


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its already like this crow


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah things are becoming mroe phone dependant


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Electricity isn't addictive


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Phones are


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
not really, I have a phone and barely use it, it's the internet connection that's currently as important as electricity


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
but it's moving towards phone dependency


[24-Apr-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
You know how people were addicted to cell phones back in the early 2000s right


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
no


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Literally everyone was constantly in a call


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
I barely used my phone back then too lol


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
That had nothing to do with the internet


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Yes. Texting though.


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
now you can run businesses on your phone


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Because the phones then didn't have internet access


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now you need your phone to pick your order up from walmart


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my area at least


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] Crow#5457
you can pay with your phone


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ive using my phone for:music,discord,internet


[24-Apr-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Or you can pay with cash


[24-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
oh yeah


[24-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
don't need separate credit cards anymore


[24-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i also pay with nfc


[24-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
credit/debit


[24-Apr-19 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
need a flashlight? phone


[24-Apr-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
want to end a call with a bang? not phone


[24-Apr-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the convenience is by far trumping the security issues for most people


[24-Apr-19 04:03 PM] DevField#5162
I never use my phone


[24-Apr-19 04:03 PM] DevField#5162
I don't think it even has service


[24-Apr-19 04:04 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't use my phone much either


[24-Apr-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had a clamshell phone but i ran out of money to buy minutes with


[24-Apr-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so now it;s a dead phone in a closet soemwhere


[24-Apr-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that thing took so many poundings though


[24-Apr-19 04:05 PM] DevField#5162
Oof


[24-Apr-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48028773

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US dilutes UN rape-in-conflict resolution
References to sexual and reproductive health were removed over US opposition to abortion.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p077832s.jpg


[24-Apr-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Dear america,
Fuck you 
sincerely an american citizen


[24-Apr-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and fuck you UN for giving into their demands


[24-Apr-19 04:51 PM] Honahue#0656
>UN
>anything but a way for Saudi princes to get out of NYC parking tickets


[24-Apr-19 04:53 PM] Honahue#0656
They have 0 power they only ever pass non binding resolutions


[24-Apr-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is the UN even a thing if they can't enforce their shit?


[24-Apr-19 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
basically a smokescreen for countries to claim they're solving global issues without actually solving them


[24-Apr-19 05:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/worked-torrid-heat-exxon-shell-walmart-free-190424065739207.html

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They worked in torrid heat for Exxon, Shell and Walmart, for free
'I can't fathom this being legitimate,' a former US Labor Department investigator says of a drug rehab's work programme.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/4/24/b02b9ad8029d45b0a98436f776173cdc_18.jpg


[24-Apr-19 05:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/570627291839987723/Screenshot_20190424-100846.jpg

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[24-Apr-19 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/570627893311307778/Screenshot_20190424-101114.jpg

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[24-Apr-19 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Land of the free*!

[*] Dignity sold separately.


[24-Apr-19 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seeing as they arent in prison either, this also goes against the 13th ammendment


[24-Apr-19 05:26 PM] Honahue#0656
America never abolished slavery


[24-Apr-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we just moved it behind closed doors


[24-Apr-19 05:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Renamed it, maybe made it less explicitly racist but never abolished


[24-Apr-19 05:49 PM] illumnious#7938
These five charts show how bad the student loan debt situation is https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/student-loan-statistics-2019-n997836

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These five charts show how bad the student loan debt situation is
Elizabeth Warren just proposed canceling student loan debt for most debtors.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2831476/190423-student-loans-mc-14222_d41cc3e13f4f0bab9cd474ae95691ddd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[24-Apr-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention text book induced scoliosis so that's medical debt ontop of student debt


[24-Apr-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://time.com/5577204/andy-mckean-iowa-republican-democrat-trump/

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Iowa's Longest-Serving Republican Switches to Democratic Party Bec...
Iowa Republican Andy McKean left his party on Tuesday to join the Democrats, citing President Donald Trump as a factor in his decision
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[24-Apr-19 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Biden voted with the NRA when the Senate, and the nation, were very different https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-voted-nra-when-senate-nation-were-very-different-n997311

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The 1986 bill allowed firearms to be sold by mail and limited inspections of dealers while allowing them to sell at gun shows.
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[24-Apr-19 06:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Scammers turn Instagram into a showroom for luxury counterfeits https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/scammers-have-turned-instagram-showroom-luxury-counterfeits-n997256

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Scammers have turned Instagram into a showroom for luxury counterfeits
Many of the accounts on Instagram using those hashtags direct prospective buyers to contact them on encrypted messaging apps.
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[24-Apr-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/eight-pedestrians-struck-car-suspected-intentional-crash-n997911

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Eight pedestrians struck by car in a suspected intentional crash
Police say the incident appears to be intentional and the FBI is now assisting in the investigation.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2832761/190424-sunnyvale-crash-mc-1143_2135cc42b9dd8b37eb7fd191a284599f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[24-Apr-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-19 07:43 PM] Crow#5457
is this real


[24-Apr-19 07:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Doesn't look like it


[24-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwhqBVHAeSt/

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[24-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
it's real


[24-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[24-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1120706768269643778

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My tweet pissed off the gamergaters even more. They're not mad about the ending because they're racist. They're mad because they're worried if the time traveler in the murder game changes the past it will have unforeseen consequences. You all look dumb for laughing at them...
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[24-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
what the actual fuck


[24-Apr-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/qwardet/status/1120707388946956290

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@classiclib3ral "Going back in time and ending slavery strips people of their free will" is the hot take I never knew I didn't want to hear
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[24-Apr-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[24-Apr-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my brain is not comprehending what ilm reading here


[24-Apr-19 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
apparently one of the endings in MK11 has a character going back into time and preventing the concept of slavery from ever taking root in ancient history


[24-Apr-19 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
and people are mad about that, saying it "strips people of their free will"


[24-Apr-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes the free will that slavery totally gave people


[24-Apr-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the free will to be sold by african slave traders after being defeated in tribal warfare, that free will


[24-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Honahue#0656
Slapped those tablets straight outta Moses's hands


[24-Apr-19 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Acceptable losses to get rid of slavery


[24-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
slavery has been around basically since the dawn of civilization


[24-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
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[24-Apr-19 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but the rules of Moses actually put a limit on it, it wasn't a lifetime like the African slave trade


[24-Apr-19 07:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
I thought he went back to end slavery of Africans


[24-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Slavery has always been shit but some slavery is worse


[24-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
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[24-Apr-19 07:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue European enslavement of Africans is whack.


[24-Apr-19 07:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Ah yes the literal Red Eye excuse


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the freedom to die working as a whipped slave


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
that's practically happening in the US today


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Im🅱lying we couldn't have hammed our way out


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"ah yes let's just throw basic human decency out the window"


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
like dude lmao what if plantations ran themselves like company towns.


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh wait, they did in Reconstruction


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Made their former slaves debtors to the extreme


[24-Apr-19 07:53 PM] Honahue#0656
This is why seasteading is such a dumb idea


[24-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ClassicalCretin/status/1120739022882521088

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@thelindsayellis @classiclib3ral Button 1: "We needed slavery so that we could industrialize quicker and prop up the economy"
Button 2: "Slavery was a long time ago, reparations are ridiculous, it was inhumane but its not like America was 'built on it"

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[24-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/4/16/18287446/incel-definition-reddit

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The rise of incels: How a support group for the dateless became a ...
What incels believe — and the dangers they pose.
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[24-Apr-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
>The teenager, now a man who uses the handle “ReformedIncel” to keep his internet history out of his offline life, recalls the online incel world of the 1990s and 2000s fondly. It was a welcoming place, one where men who didn’t know how to talk to women could ask the community’s female members for advice (and vice versa). It was, he told me, “kind of an SJW [social justice warrior] community.”


[24-Apr-19 07:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder one of the first Incel boards was started by a bi woman.


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that an incel threw a kid off a 3 story balcony at a shopping mall because "women rejected his advances"


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
How far the dateless have fallen


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
he originally intended to throw a woman off, but got cold feet


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
donlt fuck that guy


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure at this point incels are a greater threat than international Islamist terrorism in the US


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Reminder that life doesn't owe you a spouse


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
but he returned the next day, walked up to a mom and her kid, stared at them for a bit, then picked up the kid and threw him off


[24-Apr-19 07:59 PM] DevField#5162
The fuck


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Apparently the kid is doing fine.


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/us/mall-of-america-child-recovery/index.html

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5-year-old boy thrown off Mall of America balcony showing 'real si...
"New test results have been positive, though he remains in intensive care with a long road ahead," the family's GoFundMe page said.
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[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like he's surprising the doctors on how un-hurt he is for what happened.


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
I linked it a couple days ago


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] DevField#5162
What a psycho


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] DevField#5162
really


[24-Apr-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
According to a criminal complaint, the boy and his mother were outside the Rain Forest Café when Aranda came up close to them. The mother had never seen Aranda before, and she asked if she and her son should move.
Instead, Aranda picked up the boy and threw him over the railing, the complaint states.
Aranda told police he had come to the mall a day earlier intending to kill an adult, but that did not "work out," according to the complaint.
So he returned Friday and apparently chose the boy instead.
Aranda told police he knew what he was planning to do was wrong. He explained he had visited the mall for years, trying to speak to women there, but they rejected him. Aranda said that made him lash out.


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mandatory incel monitoring starting in middle school


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] DevField#5162
Or just


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
that's exactly what's causing the "incel epidemic" to begin with, too much monitoring of children


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] DevField#5162
stop shaming the shit out of guys for not being popular with women


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Too feminist


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
more of something causing a problem doesn't fix the fucking problem


[24-Apr-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Send all incels to the monastery.


[24-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why can't American incels be like Japanese ones and just turn their sexual frustration into destructive consumerism


[24-Apr-19 08:02 PM] DevField#5162
I'm not condoning what incels do, but I think the situation would be a lot better if guys weren't running around the place like headless chickens for female validation


[24-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
there's been a lot of social developmental problems over the past few decades once the whole helicopter parenting thing took off


[24-Apr-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because america isnt the same culture


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our incels are more like the indian and chinese incels


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
and I'm pretty sure incels are a mostly US problem


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
America is exactly the same consumerist culture.


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's more Japanese to strip down all their material possessions to eleven things.


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then reduce as much sound as possible.


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's a practice unthinkable to us


[24-Apr-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
But we will buy all the bullshit


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] DevField#5162
I was gonna say about the herbivore men in Japan but that's voluntary, isn't it?


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Honahue#0656
Volcel


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] DevField#5162
monk mode


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] DevField#5162
:dab:


[24-Apr-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>When you hear a prisoner about to vote

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[24-Apr-19 08:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Buddhism is big on vegetarianism, at least for monks. Though there's caveats where if you're a monk and someone serves you chicken then you can eat the chicken because it's not like you wanted it.


[24-Apr-19 08:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someone just sort of had it on hand and probably would have eaten it anyways. You shouldn't want the chicken, but if it's served out of generosity then might as well.


[24-Apr-19 08:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile American Buddhists are like, "Dude I smoke weed to balance my chakras"


[24-Apr-19 08:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
d e s i s t


[24-Apr-19 08:06 PM] DevField#5162
"Look at these precious stones I got to help my *aura*"
>are man-made glass stones


[24-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
japan doesn't really have an incel problem, it's voluntary


[24-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
and it's pissing women the fuck off


[24-Apr-19 08:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When the world's most material culture meets an ascetic religion


[24-Apr-19 08:07 PM] DevField#5162
Good on them


[24-Apr-19 08:07 PM] DevField#5162
Tbh


[24-Apr-19 08:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, no... describing Buddhism as ascetic is incorrect. That'd be Jainism. But it's more ascetic than American Protestantism


[24-Apr-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
japan;s problem is too much overbearing work ethic and pressure to succeed


[24-Apr-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so people are starting to withdraw into their shells and turn inward towards their hobbies to an obsessive point


[24-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
women in japan are angry and confused about why men are no longer willing to deal with all the hoops they expect men to jump through in order to be "worthy" of them


[24-Apr-19 08:09 PM] DevField#5162
Yyup


[24-Apr-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
and shaming isn't working


[24-Apr-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shaming just makes it fucking worse


[24-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
even though shaming is what makes incels to begin with


[24-Apr-19 08:10 PM] Honahue#0656
Cause Japan's economy collapsed in 1989 and still hasn't recovered


[24-Apr-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people in japan are worked to over exhaustion to the point where sleeping on the job is a sign of great honor...


[24-Apr-19 08:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
The maker of the new smash bros game even bragged about working himself so hard he had to be put on iv at work.


[24-Apr-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
japans work culture is fucked the hell up


[24-Apr-19 08:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
It sure is


[24-Apr-19 08:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Japan is fucked up in general. Not only multimedia, but also life. Did you see videos of them going to work/school? Soviet Union sounds like  a paradise.


[24-Apr-19 08:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In terms of society demands.


[24-Apr-19 08:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Train driver had to apologise for arriving 30 seconds earlier.
> Clean your school afterhours.
> Queue up in a single file at train station.
> Take up extra activities after school/work, even if it means bed time is near midnight.


[24-Apr-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
single file is faster, and cleaning the school is alright, but the others are bullshit


[24-Apr-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
it's almost blatantly obvious that there needs to be some sort of balance between slave-like collectivism and self-destructive individualism, but you can't do that without being called out as being an extremist by both extremes


[24-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And there was a blog of russian girl with daughter, her husband worked at one of japanese companies. Her daughter not only had to take extra activities besides school, but she also had to take up "empathy lessons", where one must be blind/deaf/in_wheelchair for a day... now sure how it is fitting for a 10 year old.


[24-Apr-19 08:27 PM] ononim#8141
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The relocation of the Armenian gangs and their supporters, who massacred the Muslim people, including women and children, in eastern Anatolia, was the most reasonable action that could be taken in such a period.

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[24-Apr-19 08:27 PM] ononim#8141
🤔


[24-Apr-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
>Including women and children


[24-Apr-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
You know


[24-Apr-19 08:28 PM] DevField#5162
the important ones.


[24-Apr-19 09:10 PM] illumnious#7938

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[24-Apr-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“I will say one thing I’d be interested in doing: Some kind of skate-off with Beto because I also skated. If Beto is open to it, I’m open to it.”- Andrew Yang


[24-Apr-19 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i don't disagree with her


[24-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which candidate will play ska first


[24-Apr-19 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking Tony Hawk's Presidential Downhill


[24-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brilliant


[24-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Leaked Yang 2020 song


[24-Apr-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Get Tony Hawk in to yell "Do a kick flip!" at them


[24-Apr-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-19 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait what happened with nintendo


[24-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Smash got a stage creator


[24-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People made a trans flag


[24-Apr-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They took it down, same way they took down Nazi stuff etc


[24-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh nooo


[24-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Mikey#7286
The horror


[24-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Mikey#7286
Bad Nintendo for being apolitical


[24-Apr-19 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>apolitical
>literally punishing people for advocating for trans rights


[24-Apr-19 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Being political" is not a dichotomical, on/off measurement


[24-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Bad Nintendo for being apolitical"


[24-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want it both ways.


[24-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cheap rainbow washing to get points, but not when it actually matters


[24-Apr-19 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, once corporations start also appropriating the trans flag, Nintendo will back off on it


[24-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[24-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll use it for easy points when it's not _too_ controversial


[24-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not if they ever have to take a stand and risk profit


[24-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want to be apolitical fine but don't use it for asspats like this


[24-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like how MLP celebrated pride month in a FB post but would never have a canon gay character


[24-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Mikey#7286
>generic rainbow sticker


[24-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Mikey#7286
:thunk:


[24-Apr-19 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the point


[24-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Generic rainbow sticker paired with one of Nintendo's most famous slogans lazily made into LGBT appeal


[24-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Mikey#7286
>Implying it's about that


[24-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can think of one canon LGBT character Nintendo has


[24-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isabelle, that's it


[24-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that's only a meta thing


[25-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
It's not even like she's overtly LGBT, lol


[25-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean yeah, hence it being a meta thing


[25-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
It's basically implied


[25-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She just likes the mayor no matter what


[25-Apr-19 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[25-Apr-19 12:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Birdo is trans or did they retcon that


[25-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They can't make up their mind about it IIRC


[25-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Wait what


[25-Apr-19 01:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
doggo is gay

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[25-Apr-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Alex Jones: Froggo is gay

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[25-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Doggo is bi cause she likes the Mayor male or female


[25-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mayorsexual


[25-Apr-19 01:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Didn't Nintendo do something about Tomodachi. You could have gay Miis through a glitch and Nintendo patched it out.


[25-Apr-19 01:44 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I didnt think doggo liked them that way but ok


[25-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@PwnyPony Yes, and they called it "odd relationships" or something in the patch


[25-Apr-19 01:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nintendo "odd" 🏳️‍🌈


[25-Apr-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
LGBT stuff is commonly the subject of jokes in Japan


[25-Apr-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or used as a villain archetype


[25-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Honahue#0656
gay villains is also pretty common in the west too


[25-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Less so now


[25-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Honahue#0656
it was kinda a dick move to make all the bad guys gay


[25-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Honahue#0656
or at least gay adjacent


[25-Apr-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
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[25-Apr-19 03:55 AM] illumnious#7938
Fuck me 
Trump goes to war for power over Congress https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-goes-war-power-over-congress-n998241

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Trump goes to war for power over Congress
Analysis: Critics say the president is abusing his authority so badly that he could be impeached for actions that having nothing to do with Russia.
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[25-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn


[25-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't do anything with Congress when it was entirely GOP


[25-Apr-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ultimately Russia wouldn't have directly mattered for impeachment anyway if the Mueller report is to be believed (which it should be) - the evidence on which to convict on conspiracy is muddled because the evidence for obstruction *is* enough to go off of on its own


[25-Apr-19 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I don't think it would've ended up cooking so many people if they hadn't been wildly aware of the optics and tried to protect Trump


[25-Apr-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc13.com/houstons-prop-b-what-now/5093886/ better article

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Houston's Prop B: What now?
More than 18 months since the inception of Prop B and two months after its passage: where does the city stand on firefighter pay parity?
https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5171857_030619-dd-dunn-prop-b-timeline-updated-vid.jpg?w=1600


[25-Apr-19 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, the folks who accepted russian-sourced money in congress is a list most people don't know - but the list of high-ranking individuals who put their necks on the line for Trump are household names


[25-Apr-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do wish that article on Trump had followed up more on the idea that he's baiting them to impeach. Like, sure, there's the quote from Caputo, but what did he *mean* by that


[25-Apr-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd also like to know if bringing more charges in impeachment is better than less, now that we're 3 for 3 on Trump allegedly doing the things Nixon was charged with - does it strengthen the cause, or weaken it through giving the opposition more opportunities for things they can discredit and thus nullify the whole approach?


[25-Apr-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/776978c0f18c43d09da644c320bf0658

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Trump forms battle plan for post-Mueller probes: Just say no
WASHINGTON (AP) — Just say no. As House Democrats ramp up their post-Mueller investigations into President Donald Trump, his strategy for responding is simple: Resist on every legal front....
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[25-Apr-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently his strategy is deny, deny, deny, deny, deny


[25-Apr-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The high court itself said in 1993 that the framers of the Constitution didn’t intend for the courts to have the power to review impeachment proceedings. The Supreme Court ruled that impeachment and removal from office is Congress’ duty alone."


[25-Apr-19 04:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Apr-19 04:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🅱️ig 🅱️rain ideas


[25-Apr-19 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/78b0a047115c4ef8b0411998fe129826

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Former DHS head took up cyber despite White House aversion
WASHINGTON (AP) — A top White House official told Kirstjen Nielsen, then Homeland Security secretary, not to bring up election security with President Donald Trump, steering her away from...
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[25-Apr-19 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-25/pregnant-wife-of-sri-lanka-bomber-detonates-suicide-vest/11045306?pfmredir=sm

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Pregnant wife of Sri Lanka bomber detonates suicide vest, killing ...
The pregnant wife of Sri Lanka bomber detonated a suicide vest when police cornered her, killing her own children.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11045538-16x9-700x394.jpg


[25-Apr-19 05:46 AM] RYDE#8862
Holy Celestia!!!


[25-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-shep-smith-neil-cavuto-shut-down-notre-dame-fire-conspiracy-theories

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Fox News Anchors Shut Down Conspiracy Theories About Notre Dame Fire
Neil Cavuto hung up on a guest mid-conversation while Shepard Smith openly scolded one who echoed baseless speculation about the horrific fire.
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[25-Apr-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
apparently fox news is good for something


[25-Apr-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
though it's probably more because they don't want to become breitbart or something


[25-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
maybe murdoch has personally taken a more hands-on approach with the sort of content he wants reported


[25-Apr-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
and conspiracy theories isn't one of them


[25-Apr-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suspect the restructuring has meant that they can't rely on their other brands for a crutch anymore


[25-Apr-19 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause if his choice of heir is any indication, Fox news is to remain rigidly right-wing with no compromising "moderate" ideas like that other useless offspring


[25-Apr-19 06:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, it could be that this is a massive pivot as they realize that supporting Trump will ultimately be toxic to the longevity of their platform


[25-Apr-19 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that certain groups were willing to die on a hill for Dubya and now try to forget he exists


[25-Apr-19 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Dubya was right at the point where we started to realize that people were paying attention to Limbaugh et al and the effect it was having, I think that may have been the tipping point


[25-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that climate change was a major platform issue for both obama and mccain


[25-Apr-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
and then in 2012 romney's platform questioned the validity of human-caused climate change


[25-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
and then in 2016, trump's platform flat-out claimed that climate change was a chinese hoax


[25-Apr-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of depressing how fast the republican party has degenerated


[25-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.c2es.org/document/the-candidates-on-climate-and-energy-a-guide-to-the-key-policy-positions-of-president-obama-and-governor-romney/

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The Candidates on Climate and Energy: A Guide to the Key Policy Po...
This voter guide outlines the records and positions of President Barack Obama and former Gov. Mitt Romney on key climate and energy issues. A side-by-side summary at the top links to more details below. The nonpartisan guide is based on an examination of the candidates' actio...


[25-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Faux News now seems to accept that climate change is happening but has adopted a fatalistic attitude like it's too big a problem and your going to have to give up so much to fix it so why bother


[25-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, looking at these policies on romney


[25-Apr-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
comparing his actions as governor to his statements as candidate for president


[25-Apr-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/donald-trump-subpoenas.html

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By CHARLIE SAVAGE
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/donald-trump-subpoenas.html
Trump Vows Stonewall of ‘All’ House Subpoenas
The president dismissed oversight investigations by House Democrats as partisan and illegitimate, signaling a new phase of confrontation.
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[25-Apr-19 10:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/ontario-considers-cutting-ohip-travel-coverage-1.4393179?fbclid=IwAR1VynGd0kOqvr9uIA5AQOB9ht8OC2-swB1HQtA_smbhnDbyUVKGaFZK-I0

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Ontario considers cutting OHIP travel coverage
Ontario is considering ending a government-run travel insurance program that partly covers the cost of emergency health services abroad, a move the Opposition says will hurt snowbirds and frequent travellers.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.4362061.1554215682!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg


[25-Apr-19 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fbe1a8e788aa444481ef8d3f638f834f

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Putin hosts Kim for talks on North Korean nuclear standoff
VLADIVOSTOK, Russia (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin sat down for talks Thursday with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, saying the summit should help plan joint efforts to resolve a standoff...
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[25-Apr-19 10:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6cb144f6838e409c828cb32a19834a2a

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Polish leader: LGBT rights an import that threatens nation
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — The chairman of Poland's conservative ruling party, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, has called the LGBT rights movement a foreign import that threatens the Polish...
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[25-Apr-19 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0b4eee0774cd4a739128fceafe451a0b

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Court to hear Washington challenge to Trump abortion rule
YAKIMA, Wash. (AP) — A federal judge in Washington state will hear arguments in two cases against new Trump administration rules that could cut off federal funding for health care providers who...
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[25-Apr-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d5c415b99a6945dbbecf60d57bcf68cb and now it;s official

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Ex-Vice President Biden launches 2020 presidential campaign
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden formally joined the crowded Democratic presidential contest on Thursday, betting that his working-class appeal and ties to Barack Obama's...
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[25-Apr-19 02:04 PM] DevField#5162
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/number-of-irish-measles-cases-more-than-triples-between-2017-and-2018-1.3871238

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Number of Irish measles cases more than triples between 2017 and 2018
More than 20 million children a year worldwide missed out on vaccines in past eight years, UN report finds
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[25-Apr-19 02:05 PM] DevField#5162
💉 ❌


[25-Apr-19 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck


[25-Apr-19 02:10 PM] DevField#5162
https://www.thejournal.ie/suicide-rates-ireland-4267893-Oct2018/

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Men account for eight in 10 suicides in Ireland
The overall rate of suicide deaths has decreased in recent years.
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[25-Apr-19 02:10 PM] DevField#5162
Old article but


[25-Apr-19 02:13 PM] DevField#5162
>The majority (335) of suicide deaths last year were among men. This high male to female ratio has been a consistent feature of deaths by suicide over the years. 
The highest rates of suicide were observed among 45-54 year-olds (men) and 55-64 year olds (women). Ireland’s overall suicide rate in 2015 was 10th lowest of 33 European countries. Although for young people (aged 15-19), it was seventh highest.


[25-Apr-19 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-conway-donald-trump-nickname_n_5cc195efe4b01b6b3efd39c1

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George Conway Has A Biting New Nickname For Trump
Kellyanne Conway's husband used the mocking moniker in a series of scathing tweets about the president.
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[25-Apr-19 05:56 PM] Vaila#5808

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[25-Apr-19 06:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is MSM?


[25-Apr-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
>that polish article


[25-Apr-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
who lese but polska


[25-Apr-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
```They also come as the church in Poland comes under scrutiny over pedophilia, with victims increasingly breaking the taboo to speak out about their abuse. A movie that deals with the problem, “Kler” (Clergy) was a blockbuster hit and opinion surveys show that support is falling for having nuns and priests teach religion in public schools, as is now the case.```


[25-Apr-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
```Kaczynski called the film “Kler” an “attack on the church,” adding: “We are dealing with a direct attack on the family and children — the sexualization of children, that entire LBGT movement, gender. This is imported, but they today actually threaten our identity, our nation, its continuation and therefore the Polish state.”```


[25-Apr-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
lmao


[25-Apr-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
such a fucking "surprise" the church scum and their secular ilk calling paedophiles the people who exposed them for raping kids


[25-Apr-19 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/us/navy-seals-crimes-of-war.html

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Navy SEALs Were Warned Against Reporting Their Chief for War Crimes
The Navy investigation of a highly decorated platoon leader who now faces court-martial found a subculture that prized aggression and protected wrongdoers.
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[25-Apr-19 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
```Stabbing a defenseless teenage captive to death. Picking off a school-age girl and an old man from a sniper’s roost. Indiscriminately spraying neighborhoods with rockets and machine-gun fire.

Navy SEAL commandos from Team 7’s Alpha Platoon said they had seen their highly decorated platoon chief commit shocking acts in Iraq. And they had spoken up, repeatedly. But their frustration grew as months passed and they saw no sign of official action.

Tired of being brushed off, seven members of the platoon called a private meeting with their troop commander in March 2018 at Naval Base Coronado near San Diego. According to a confidential Navy criminal investigation report obtained by The New York Times, they gave him the bloody details and asked for a formal investigation.

But instead of launching an investigation that day, the troop commander and his senior enlisted aide — both longtime comrades of the accused platoon leader, Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher — warned the seven platoon members that speaking out could cost them and others their careers, according to the report.```


[25-Apr-19 09:33 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Apr-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Net neutrality won't do anything, huh


[25-Apr-19 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/24/philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte-to-declare-war-on-canada-in-waste-dispute

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Trash talk: Philippine president to 'declare war' on Canada in was...
Rodrigo Duterte ramps up rhetoric in row over containers languishing in Philippine ports
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[25-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sheesh the stuff I missed


[25-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
okay so, in order


[25-Apr-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nurse thing is kinda nuts, yeah


[25-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Typical thing where some white male Republican who has hardly worked a day in his life goes "I know what the problem is with these women!"


[25-Apr-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thinks they can't handle long shifts.


[25-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
(cause they're women)


[25-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Next up, on DC getting nuked in Sci Fi/Action stuff


[25-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've gotta say


[25-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
10 years ago I would've said the MCU was unrealistic in terms of the US political shit


[25-Apr-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but now


[25-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think HYDRA was 10x more unrealistic than anything about how SHIELD and the gov't overall acted


[25-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need a Nazi-created parasite to make our gov't pursue weapons to target dissidents


[25-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's basically real life with glowy stuff added.


[25-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, forget Beto


[25-Apr-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Beto has one area where he is super bad: policing/prisons


[25-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Beto is a tuff-on-crime guy, he would worsen certain long-term problems.


[25-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for the US helping veto rape-as-weapon stuff in the UN


[25-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, I can see reasons to oppose it


[25-Apr-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
but none of those reasons should be what the US thinks are good in 2019


[25-Apr-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire concept is that rape as a weapon is a civilian-targeted weapon used to inflict suffering so that the populace fears you, so that conquering is easier (and your soldiers are more cohesive). It completely stands in the face of modern ideas of soldiers fighting soldiers and leaving civilians alone.


[25-Apr-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans need to GTFO on women's health issues.


[25-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw on the Saudi executions, they do beheading by sword ⚔ :beheaded:


[25-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty fukked up in just about every way.


[25-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unfair trial, false charges, massive delays, then at the very end they rely on a guy with a curved sword to slice right, in public.


[25-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was just looking this up


[25-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They barely have a legal system at all, not even a "good" Sharia one


[25-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barely legally literate judges from a tiny minority of the population with contempt for the modern world


[25-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not, everything is designed to suppress dissent.


[25-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That is most of their system


[25-Apr-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will even execute people for partaking in support of things they later agree to.


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just, you hav to immediately bend your words to the gov't's current policy.


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No system of precedence, no codified law for the most part


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't support policy too early, or too late.


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just turning up their nose at all this Islamic jurisprudence


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women get allowed to drive? Better shut up about it, Imam.


[25-Apr-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
While also being the center of Islam


[25-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's classic fascism, really


[25-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bends in the wind


[25-Apr-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be noted, the wind now is slightly blowing towards liberalization.


[25-Apr-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're showing movies internally now, Black Panther was the first.


[25-Apr-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also had a comic con


[25-Apr-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And with women driving, comes economic independence, in theory.


[25-Apr-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
All of these are practical decisions because otherwise their economy gets shat on.


[25-Apr-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it'll add up eventually to real cultural and political changes.


[25-Apr-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fbe1a8e788aa444481ef8d3f638f834f

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VLADIVOSTOK, Russia (AP) — President Vladimir Putin says he's willing to share details with the United States about his summit on Thursday with Kim Jong Un, potentially raising Russia's influence...
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[25-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, I would hope beto loses, @Litrojia @Crow


[25-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
beto and buttigieg both seem like younger bidens to me


[25-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
other than buttigieg being gay


[25-Apr-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel as though 2020 is going to be a 'special' kind of mess


[25-Apr-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And @Mikey, Saudi Arabia does the horizontal slice technique I think.


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
how many conservative democrats are there? will buttigieg being gay have an effect on whether he'll win the primary?


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The condemned kneels and head goes flying, doctor puts his gloved hand over the nekk. Kind of an odd setup, guess it's a traditional thing.


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
@Nebbie hmm?


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saudi Arabian executions.


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
oh


[25-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they do 1 every other day)


[25-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow Beto is harder on crime than Cruz, is the thing. It was the one reason why Cruz could've been a better Senator. Of course, Cruz is in McConnell's pokket...


[25-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] half of Democrats are conservative...but this is an all-time low.


[26-Apr-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
do they care if buttigieg is gay


[26-Apr-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[26-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic conservatives mostly are people who oppose new civil rights law on race/sex/gender equality and want things kept mostly privatized.


[26-Apr-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the sort who are okay with Hillary as long as she slows shit down, and fear that Bernie is too socialist.


[26-Apr-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
people in here have been saying that buttigieg seems like a plant


[26-Apr-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
why is that


[26-Apr-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he's not super liberal and he can play the gay card to win over liberals.


[26-Apr-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, he could actually do conservative shit.


[26-Apr-19 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Shiria law in general is pretty open to interpretation, there's only 80 solid rules in the Qur'an compared to 613 in the first 4 books of the Bible


[26-Apr-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic conservatives don't care if you're gay


[26-Apr-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Democratic liberals will say you're a better option for it


[26-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Honahue#0656
anyway, Beto's only qualification is being born into a wealthy family and buttchug's is being gay in current year


[26-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Beto's also fucking hipocrit cause he's got DUI's that for some people can ruin their lives forever but cause he's got a rich family he get's elected to State reps somehow


[26-Apr-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto has a lot of good ideas, just not on criminal justice.


[26-Apr-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Buttigieg's qualifications, memes aside, appear to be having more executive experience than most of the other candidates combined, and in so doing revitalized a rust belt town in Indiana when Pence was governor


[26-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
ew


[26-Apr-19 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, I *really* like the guy's policies


[26-Apr-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which are?


[26-Apr-19 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Per Wikipedia: "Buttigieg describes himself as a proponent of democratically influenced capitalism. He favors universal healthcare with retention of private insurance; dialogue and cooperation between the Democratic Party and organized labor; universal background checks for firearms purchases; and environment policies that address pollution and fight climate change, which he views as 'a security issue'. He also supports federal legislation banning discrimination against LGBT people and the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program for immigrants. Buttigieg self-identifies as a progressive and a supporter of democratic capitalism. He identifies regulatory capture as a significant problem in American society."


[26-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds nice, but I'm highly suspicious of the overall structure.


[26-Apr-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
what has he actually implemented as mayor?


[26-Apr-19 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One of Buttigieg's signature programs has been the "Vacant and Abandoned Properties Initiative" (known locally as "1,000 Properties in 1,000 Days"), a project to repair or demolish blighted properties across the city.[45][46] The goal was reached by the program's scheduled end date in November 2015.[47]


[26-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In particular, bakkground chekks aren't the biggest problem, climate change as a security issue is highly ominious, and overall it looks like he'd want Big Brother gov't mixed with ultracapitalism.


[26-Apr-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like gentrification hell


[26-Apr-19 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
actually, the opposite of that


[26-Apr-19 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in interviews he's talked about the problems with historically redlined communities and what it takes to improve life for people living there - starting with education


[26-Apr-19 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and has made special note to target those areas and make sure the funding is used to help the people already there


[26-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
so how does he prevent property values from skyrocketing after the old houses are renovated or replaced?


[26-Apr-19 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You'll have to ask South Bend residents


[26-Apr-19 12:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
by all accounts, it's a success story


[26-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
because that's what ends up happening in california


[26-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
California is corrupt


[26-Apr-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, you do hav to be careful with this stuff


[26-Apr-19 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd have to find the clip from the interview I'm referring to but his approach was very pragmatic and definitely wasn't just "build a business district and get cash flowing into the area from outside"


[26-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you elevate the houses but make them unaffordable to their occupants, you can really screw up a neighborhood.


[26-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
>Buttigieg, who called for addressing 1,000 abandoned houses through demolition and repairs, declared victory at the 1,000-day mark in 2015. Action was actually taken on a larger number — 1,122 houses, with roughly 40 percent of them repaired and 60 percent demolished. The homes had been deemed unsafe under state guidelines, and Buttigieg said he was trying to tackle head-on the urban blight that afflicts neighborhoods.


[26-Apr-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
that really sounds like a recipe for housing prices to go up


[26-Apr-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
granted, supposedly most of them were unsafe, so I assume they were abandoned


[26-Apr-19 12:23 AM] Honahue#0656
you need rent control or it's just gonna be gentrification hell


[26-Apr-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unsafe does not mean abandoned.


[26-Apr-19 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It does appear that it did have some unforseen impact at first but he became "more accomodating" once it became clear..."one of those lessons, he said, was that it was difficult for the government to determine which houses were owned by out of town home owners who had let their property deteriorate and which were owned by local residents who were working to fix up local homes."


[26-Apr-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
rent control isn't sufficient


[26-Apr-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
and it may not be necessary


[26-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
you need housing to be affordable more than anything


[26-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the real trap


[26-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
make mortgage payments on par with current rent price


[26-Apr-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
then you'll be talking


[26-Apr-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/politics/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-record/index.html

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Buttigieg pushed plan to revitalize South Bend. Not everyone felt ...
Stacey Odom was skeptical of Pete Buttigieg, when, in 2012, he became the young mayor here in South Bend.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190123125130-pete-buttigieg-0123-super-tease.jpg


[26-Apr-19 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so here's an article analyzing his urban programs in South Bend https://www.curbed.com/2019/4/12/18308020/mayor-pete-buttigieg-president-development-urbanism

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How Mayor Pete used good urbanism to revitalize South Bend
Behind the Rust Belt renaissance overseen by the Dem hopeful is a focus on placemaking and development policies.
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[26-Apr-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
>Much of that has yet to be fully resolved. The current unemployment rate among African Americans in South Bend is more than 11%, and a 2017 study by the city found that more than 40% of African Americans in the city live below the poverty line, a number that is nearly double the national rate for black households.


[26-Apr-19 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I was reading that cnn article a minute ago, as noted by my quote


[26-Apr-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Did that article mention what those rates were before he took office?


[26-Apr-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what are the rates after he took office?


[26-Apr-19 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the next sentence in that article, btw: "But eight years removed from Buttigieg taking office, what has surprised many in South Bend -- including those who met Buttigieg's early plans with antipathy -- is that the mayor has won over many of his critics, including Odom and Republicans who had once questioned whether he could effectively lead their city."


[26-Apr-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the 2017 rates would be towards the end of his second term. So what I'm taking from this is that things *improved* to those numbers


[26-Apr-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that tells me nothing


[26-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
>Poverty rates derived from the 2005-2009 ACS are not mapped here, but data may be found in the appendix.  In St. Joseph County as a whole, 13.7% of residents were estimated to be in poverty.  In South Bend, 23.1% of residents lived in poverty in 2005-2009; in Mishawaka, 11.3%.


[26-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
from this <https://southbendin.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/CI_Census2010Report.pdf>


[26-Apr-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
the poverty rate's slightly gone up since 2005-2009


[26-Apr-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What you quoted doesn't break it up by demographic, though


[26-Apr-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
'She would later convince Buttigieg to alter the program to include a $2 million program for home repairs and $2 million in affordable housing assistance.'


[26-Apr-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very important


[26-Apr-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep


[26-Apr-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also worth noting that this program was one of the things he implemented in his first term as mayor - when he was 29, and his political career at this point consisted of working for a couple of campaigns (including Kerry's) and working at a couple consulting firms


[26-Apr-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are also a couple parallels to JFK to be drawn here; he's young, raised catholic, and is facing a campaign against a Republican incumbent under the threat of economic downturn and the red scare...


[26-Apr-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...which I hope is the end of the parallels


[26-Apr-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/otto-warmbier-north-korea-comatose-bill/index.html

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North Korea presented US with $2 million bill for care of Otto War...
The North Korean government presented the United States with a bill for $2 million for the hospital care of Otto Warmbier, the American college student who was held as a prisoner by Pyongyang, and insisted the US sign a pledge to pay the bill before releasing him from their c...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170613190936-otto-warmbier-super-tease.jpg


[26-Apr-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[26-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
this is why you don't negotiate with terrorists


[26-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I thought you guys were commies"


[26-Apr-19 01:23 AM] Litrojia#0612
@Nebbie I don't mind Beto too much, but there's a handful of candidates I'd put before him. He's just trying to take his momentum from the Senate campaign, where Cruz made him look like a godsend, and convert it to a presidential race. That momentum is dying down, and I think people (including insiders) are realizing he's a kinda weak candidate in comparison. It could still swing back the other way (mostly depends on Biden, Buttigieg, and whether the other moderates get popular), but I don't think he stands the chance he had.
That being said, I don't have strong opinions of most candidates since I don't know a lot about them.


[26-Apr-19 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
he lost to Cruz tho


[26-Apr-19 01:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in a red state, with a popular red senator


[26-Apr-19 01:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he fought a pretty good fight considering


[26-Apr-19 01:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
regardless, Sanders, Biden, Buttigieg, and Harris all have a better chance than him


[26-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Litrojia#0612
I feel like if you could somehow split Hillary in half, you'd get Biden and Harris. Biden is the highest-profile and most "insider" candidate out there, and Harris runs mostly on social issues.


[26-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
Thought Beto had a good chance until Buttigieg picked up steam and basically became a better Beto


[26-Apr-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
hillary and biden both have one thing in common: they'll say what they need to say in order to get elected, it's a hallmark of neoliberal democrats


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Litrojia#0612
Harris too


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Litrojia#0612
and a fair chunk of them I guess


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
policies aside, Buttigieg is probably the most electable of the bunch


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
well, it's a hallmark of neoliberals in general


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
say what you need to get elected


[26-Apr-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he's got military service, is multilingual, and overall has a lot of positives going for him


[26-Apr-19 01:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
no doubt the conservatives are going to start disparaging his sexuality tho


[26-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
The people who are bothered by his sexuality probably wouldn't vote for him anyways though


[26-Apr-19 01:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the last thing we need is them loudly yelling "HE'S GAY" and causing the more conservative swing voters that would be otherwise receptive to him to get turned off to him as well


[26-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not flamboyant, so it goes nowhere


[26-Apr-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yuh he does a great job of not being all the stereotypes associated with being flamboyantly homosexual


[26-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is the potato not delicious


[26-Apr-19 01:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's been around for nearly 4 years


[26-Apr-19 01:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
potatoes don't stay fresh for that long


[26-Apr-19 01:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:twismug:


[26-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Litrojia#0612
If the media doesn't go full "FIRST GAY PRESIDENT" I doubt it would make much of a difference, but I'm sure they would if he was the nominee. He doesn't seem to make a big deal about it.


[26-Apr-19 01:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He's also showing he's pretty religious too, which could soften the right to him


[26-Apr-19 01:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"if you have a problem with who I am, your problem is not with me. Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.”


[26-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Litrojia#0612
true


[26-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Litrojia#0612
The religious right probably already has a "not a true Christian" argument for him, but whatever


[26-Apr-19 01:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The bible says "gay = bad" ✝


[26-Apr-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
📖 🏳️‍🌈


[26-Apr-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think I already touched on his catholic upbringing


[26-Apr-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though you bet that if someone tries to turn that on him it'll bring the weight of history crashing down on their heads, through the backseat, and into the knee of the guy in front


[26-Apr-19 02:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.imgur.com/WnKmKhZ.jpg

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[26-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Gordon Ramsay.


[26-Apr-19 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wakka wakka


[26-Apr-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/04/24/boy-scouts-could-be-hit-with-more-sex-abuse-claims/

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Boy Scouts Could Be Hit with More Sex Abuse Claims
A veteran lawyer of major sexual abuse lawsuits against the Catholic Church said his team has signed up 186 clients in a few weeks.
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[26-Apr-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Boy diddlers of America.


[26-Apr-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/obFNcN0Zc7k

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Jonathan Pie
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The Extinction Rebellion
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[26-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gNZtI7hbvI

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PolyMatter
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[26-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
>How ironic that western countries condemns the other countries to not pollute, yet they are exporting waste to Asian countries..


[26-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
>That's the world's general theory. People act against racism extrinsically but they believe in racial difference intrinsically. Environmentalists educate people not to buy wildlife productions but have never done anything enough effective to deal with wildlife legislations. People want equalities then they forgot and destroy their traditional customs. People are taught to be honest all the time but act in double standards frequently.


[26-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
sneaky


[26-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
that comment has a very good logical point up until it says "people want equalities then they forgot and destroy their traditional customs"


[26-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
equating equality to destruction of tradition


[26-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's loaded language


[26-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
on top of being a false dichotomy/dilemma


[26-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma>


[26-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
the second comment is a response to the first


[26-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
murica makes up 4% of the world population, but generates 25% of the world's garbage


[26-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[26-Apr-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is ur mum included in that ammount?


[26-Apr-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[26-Apr-19 03:38 AM] Macarou#9574
4 percent? I thought it was slightly larger, around 6 percent I thought.


[26-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
"Apparently, it's not uncommon for people to recycle a bowling ball."


[26-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
dafuq


[26-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
They are plastic I think


[26-Apr-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what an oddly specific thing to mention


[26-Apr-19 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
America's waste isn't anything new. We're a high consuming society. When it's made easier to pick up brand new shit, why fix it?


[26-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
the video claims it might end up being a good thing because it will now encourage the US and other big consumers to waste less or else literally drown in trash


[26-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
since shipping it to china was both the cheap and profitable solution


[26-Apr-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
but now it'll no longer even be an option


[26-Apr-19 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Motor city becomes a landfill.


[26-Apr-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart brand landill!


[26-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
right to repair and making products more reparable would be a start


[26-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe the iPhone wouldn't be quite so thin but replacable batteries would be nice to make a return


[26-Apr-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also apple getting rid of the god forsaken bricking chips might help their brand mroe thna harm it


[26-Apr-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Though that's nothing new, think of the "suicide batteries" in old arcade cabinets


[26-Apr-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the what now?


[26-Apr-19 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A lot of old Capcom (and other) arcade cabinets had a battery on the mainboard to keep some important info stored, like a CMOS battery. Except that if that battery died, it wiped boot-critical information and bricked the board. Given the 5-year shelf life and the rate at which cabinets were swapped out at the time, it wasn't seen as a big deal, but now some of that data is getting lost forever and if your battery dies good luck because they'd do things like pot the battery in epoxy


[26-Apr-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In much more pertinent and political news, Barr seems to have a "fixer" plan for all those trials that Mueller farmed out: Liu. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/maria-butina-us-prosecutors-ask-judge-to-deport-russia-gun-activistrussian-who-conspired-to-infiltrate-nra-to-be-sentenced-april-26/2019/03/29/9b9b01be-525d-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.aece424e08f6


[26-Apr-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, *really,* this is mega bad


[26-Apr-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oop wrong link but that one's equally important


[26-Apr-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
why are they calling her a "gun rights activist" still


[26-Apr-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
she's a russian infiltrator


[26-Apr-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because, as far as I can tell, she was way out in the open and acting more like a lobbyist with Russian interests


[26-Apr-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
anyway here's the thing I was looking for on Liu https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2019/04/17/jessie-liu-says-dc-team-is-ready-to-handle-mueller-cases/?slreturn=20190325235130

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Jessie Liu Says DC Team Is Ready to Handle Mueller Cases | Nationa...
The head of the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington said her office has seen an increase in work now that the special counsel’s probe is over.
https://images.law.com/contrib/content/uploads/sites/398/2019/04/Jessie-Liu-Article-201904171603.jpg


[26-Apr-19 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Things Liu has power over: Mueller's referred cases, grand jury investigations, and decisions on congressional contempt charges


[26-Apr-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is an awful lot of power for one person but it's especially bad because she's close enough to Barr to do what he says, for example, the Butina thing


[26-Apr-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it doesn't inspire confidence, to say the least


[26-Apr-19 12:12 PM] byte[]#2610
F


[26-Apr-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440559-deutsche-bank-starts-turning-over-trump-financial-records-to-ny

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Deutsche Bank starts turning over Trump financial records to NY of...
Deutsche Bank has reportedly started turning over President Trump's financial documents to the New York state attorney general's office, according to reports
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/deutschebank_042315getty.jpg


[26-Apr-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/440749-some-dem-chairmen-have-changed-tune-on-trump-impeachment

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Some Dem chairmen have changed tune on Trump impeachment
House Democratic chairmen who cast votes in favor of impeaching President Trump while Republicans controlled the chamber now say it’s too soon to hit the gas on starting impeachment proceedings.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/greenal_031219sr.jpg


[26-Apr-19 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 this is your country on trump https://www.foxnews.com/world/brazilian-president-says-government-must-work-with-men-to-reduce-high-numbers-of-penis-amputations

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Brazilian president says country must reduce numbers of penis ampu...
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro on Thursday said his government must make men aware of the dangers of poor hygiene after expressing dismay over the 1,000 penis amputations that occur in his country each year.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/04/AP19114697606346.jpg


[26-Apr-19 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is even...


[26-Apr-19 02:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
????


[26-Apr-19 02:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This dude is nuts.


[26-Apr-19 02:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Get it? Nuts?


[26-Apr-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish he would stop looking at me like that


[26-Apr-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/gerry-connolly-subpoenas-white-house-cnntv/?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

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Connolly threatens to jail Trump officials who won't comply with s...
A Democratic lawmaker on Thursday ratcheted up warnings to the Trump administration amid a growing standoff over subpoenas and oversight requests the White House says it will resist.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190311181656-gerry-connolly-super-tease.jpg


[26-Apr-19 03:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean that's what happens


[26-Apr-19 04:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[26-Apr-19 04:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too

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Twitter Won't Treat White Supremacy Like ISIS Because It'd Have to...
A Twitter employee who works on machine learning believes that a proactive, algorithmic solution to white supremacy would also catch Republican politicians.
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[26-Apr-19 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/gdp-q1-2019-first-read.html

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US economy grows by 3.2% in the first quarter, topping expectations
The U.S. economy grew at a faster pace than expected in the first quarter, according to data released by the U.S. government on Friday.
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2019/02/22/105755586-1550850029630rtx6nw0x.1910x1000.jpg


[26-Apr-19 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
>Disposable personal income increased by 3%, while prices increased by 1.3% when excluding food and energy. Overall prices climbed by 0.8% in the first quarter.


[26-Apr-19 04:09 PM] Crow#5457
the scraps are coming in a little bigger


[26-Apr-19 04:09 PM] Crow#5457
probably in an attempt to entice people away from the leftist movements wanting more regulation and oversight


[26-Apr-19 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Despite series of Grand Canyon deaths, tourists still drawn to the edge https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grand-canyon-deaths-after-latest-fatal-fall-tourists-still-drawn-n998791

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Despite series of Grand Canyon deaths, tourists still drawn to the...
“It’s really tempting because you see the way to go down and you want to go down there to get a better view,” said a park visitor.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2836366/190426-grand-canyon-mn-1020_81ce1ddf944d35881808016f847f0756.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Apr-19 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/daimler-says-it-has-no-idea-how-kim-jong-un-n998821

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Daimler says it has no idea how Kim Jong Un got his limos
The North Korean leader's ability to procure million-dollar luxury cars is a good example of how porous international sanctions can be.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2836101/190426-kim-jong-un-limo-mc-1238_7ce908471a0da1a38cb4d06941933dfe.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[26-Apr-19 05:25 PM] illumnious#7938
🤔


[26-Apr-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolsonaro-Worst-Three-Month-Approval-Since-Return-to-Democracy-20190408-0030.html

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Bolsonaro Has Worst 3-Month Approval Since Return to Democracy
The poll revealed that 30 percent of Brazilians believe his government is “bad or terrible.”
https://www.telesurtv.net/__export/1554758971034/sites/telesur/img/2019/04/08/the_brazilian_president_swore_on_january_1_after_beating_fernando_hadad_xptx_55_to_45_.jpg_1810791533.jpg


[26-Apr-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clown country of mine.


[26-Apr-19 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Only 30%


[26-Apr-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Amazing


[26-Apr-19 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I doubt even Trump goes that low


[26-Apr-19 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
no, only 30% think his government is bad


[26-Apr-19 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
not 30% think his government is good


[26-Apr-19 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
trump's at 53% disapproval


[26-Apr-19 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
bolsanaro's only at 30% disapproval, but it happened much faster than trump


[26-Apr-19 05:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it's the breakneck pace at which his popularity plummeted which is telling


[26-Apr-19 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro's son, Carlos Bolsonaro, vetoed his father from accessing and using the presidential twitter account.


[26-Apr-19 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mostly because the administration feared his obscene tweets would worsen his PR.


[26-Apr-19 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
in the US, it feels like trump's been in office for nearly 2 terms already, and we're only 2/3rds of the way through his first term


[26-Apr-19 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many in his administration complain that Bolsonaro is focused more on slapfighting with random celebrities and notables and sharing fake news than actually addressing political problems and, you know, governing the fucking nation


[26-Apr-19 05:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His vice president, Hamilton Mourão, is openly defying Bolsonaro's insanity


[26-Apr-19 05:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On twitter, at least


[26-Apr-19 05:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He recently tweeted that the administration's model far-right conservative "philosopher", Olavo de Carvalho, should "stick to being an astrologist".


[26-Apr-19 06:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/joe-biden-embraced-segregation-in-1975-claiming-it-was-a-matter-of-black-pride

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Joe Biden embraced segregation in 1975, claiming it was a matter o...
Joe Biden, weighing a 2020 White House bid, once advocated continued school segregation in the United States, arguing that it benefited minorities and that integration would prevent black people from embracing “their own identity.”
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[26-Apr-19 06:09 PM] Honahue#0656
Go home Biden


[26-Apr-19 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's not so good for his record


[26-Apr-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-ford-emissions/u-s-opens-criminal-probe-into-ford-emissions-certification-idUSKCN1S21BD

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U.S. opens criminal probe into Ford emissions certification
The U.S. Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into Ford Motor ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190426&t=2&i=1380984283&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF3P10H

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[26-Apr-19 06:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Learned recently that the thing Biden plagiarized was his law school journal article


[26-Apr-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
context?


[26-Apr-19 06:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh this has been following him since the 80s


[26-Apr-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never heard of this


[26-Apr-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He plagiarized like 10 pages of it, got an F in the course


[26-Apr-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[26-Apr-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Were this modern day he would have never been admitted to the bar


[26-Apr-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was different in the 60s I guess


[26-Apr-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, regulations are tighter nowadays. for now...


[26-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law


[26-Apr-19 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden was near the bottom of his law school class and didn't like the experience


[26-Apr-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden might have worked out in 2016, but i jsut cant see him being a fitting 2020 candidate


[26-Apr-19 06:24 PM] Crow#5457
he's not


[26-Apr-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only purpose i see him being used for is media filler to distract from bernie sanders


[26-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Honahue#0656
He's a mainstream DNC canidate basically Republican lite same neoliberalism slightly less racism


[26-Apr-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[26-Apr-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in 2016 he would have basically been a better version of hillary clinton with less ego.


[26-Apr-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or more ego?


[26-Apr-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure the size of his ego


[26-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Honahue#0656
I dunno, it's weird that the DNC is falling back on an old white dude to take on Trump, I wonder if they still think Hillary lost because of sexism


[26-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean that's probably on the list somewhere


[26-Apr-19 06:30 PM] Honahue#0656
I know some libs really like Warren and we're shilling for Kamala Harris, known cop


[26-Apr-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really don't doubt it


[26-Apr-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it is the DNC is also likely run by a council of neoliberals, so they want to stack as much anti bernie as thye can before 2020


[26-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Honahue#0656
Pretty much


[26-Apr-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who will win PA suburbs


[26-Apr-19 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We're getting to the point of absurdity with needing specific areas of specific states


[26-Apr-19 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually no one will leave the same five states


[26-Apr-19 06:33 PM] Honahue#0656
If they do get an amendment or something to do away with the electoral college it pretty much will be a country run by five cities


[26-Apr-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also need to do away with vote map gerrymandering


[26-Apr-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to nroth carolina: home of fuck the voters international!


[26-Apr-19 06:36 PM] Honahue#0656
My state is it's very exciting


[26-Apr-19 06:36 PM] Honahue#0656
Our districts were declared unconstitutional so they need to be redrawn


[26-Apr-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*country run by the five most populous areas


[26-Apr-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A cubic foot of dirt has more power than an average Californian or New Yorker, or hell, Texan.


[26-Apr-19 06:38 PM] Honahue#0656
True and I'm for getting rid of the EC but I also wonder what side effects it'll have


[26-Apr-19 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our entire system needs an overhaul for modern protocol


[26-Apr-19 06:39 PM] Honahue#0656
Property values in those cities are already ludicrous and giving them also the reins of the country might have unintended effects


[26-Apr-19 06:39 PM] Honahue#0656
Like raises rents even more


[26-Apr-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or larger gated communities to accumulate wealthy voters


[26-Apr-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politicalwire.com/2019/04/26/mar-a-lago-rejected-americans-in-favor-of-foreign-workers/


[26-Apr-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440815-trump-defends-charlottesville-comments

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Trump defends Charlottesville comments
President Trump on Friday defended his comments in the aftermath of the 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., in which he said there was "blame on both sides” for violence that led to the death of a counterprotester.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_charlottesville_081517getty.jpg


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general," Trump continued. "Whether you like it or not, he was a great general."


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Great general


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
wasn't robert E lee really bad


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes he was


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was a terrible general


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, which is why we celebrated the 153 years of Confederate independence last year


[26-Apr-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait


[26-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No monuments to traitors


[26-Apr-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s still on about charlottesville in 2019?


[26-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone asked him


[26-Apr-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[26-Apr-19 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought he went in circles again


[26-Apr-19 07:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1121782378953752577

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space lion 🏳️‍🌈 (@MagsVisaggs)
https://twitter.com/MagsVisaggs/status/1121782378953752577
1) Robert E. Lee was not a great general. He was inspiring as hell, all told, but BOTH of his invasions of the union were utter disasters, if for no other reason than he was a poor logistician.

2) The confederacy was Bad and we have no business lionizing its heroes.
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[26-Apr-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The CSA was about keeping slavery in place


[26-Apr-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slavery is among the worst things you can do to a human being


[26-Apr-19 07:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that the nazi German Wehrmacht was also tactically competent in the way it waged war most of the time, besides a few fuck ups that snowballed into disaster, like invading Russia.


[26-Apr-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still, we don't have monuments dedicated to honouring them


[26-Apr-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Much to the contrary


[26-Apr-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The plan of Radical Republicans after the war


[26-Apr-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was to split up the former Southern states and admit them as new ones


[26-Apr-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To completely destroy any semblance of state pride


[26-Apr-19 07:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd be a good idea tbqh


[26-Apr-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[26-Apr-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
texas is too large for what it is


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, the creator of the Boondocks is toying around with writing an alternate history story based on that premise, with the further detail that an African American state is created from Alabama and Mississipi


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd give that a watch


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or read


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/26/kamala-harris-owns-handgun-unacceptable-2020-democratic-race-column/3567371002/

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Kamala Harris owns a handgun. That's disqualifying for a 2020 Demo...
Harris, a former DA, apparently thinks it's fine to own a handgun for personal safety. That's a position held by the NRA, not progressive Democrats.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/25/USAT/b5e0343c-d18b-4c47-a88b-1fe8443a75e0-harris_2.JPG?crop=5471,3065,x0,y217&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here's a DA speculation on what it could look like


[26-Apr-19 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.deviantart.com/federalrepublic/art/Black-America-696189768

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https://www.deviantart.com/federalrepublic/art/Black-America-696189768
Black America
Inspired by the announcement of Amazon's Black America alternate history series, here's my personal very simplistic take on a harsher Reconstruction period and the creation of a freedmen homeland i...
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[26-Apr-19 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Blackhole brainlet


[26-Apr-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
lol wtf


[26-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
most people want gun control, not banning guns outright


[26-Apr-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think having a self defense pistol should disqualify you from a presidential election. that's dumb logic unless you're waving it around and threatening the people


[26-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-set-to-expand-military-role-along-southern-border/2019/04/26/f2b04666-682a-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html


[26-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
>The Pentagon is preparing to loosen rules that bar troops from interacting with migrants entering the United States, expanding the military’s involvement in President Trump’s operation along the southern border.


[26-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
>Senior Defense Department officials have recommended that acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan approve a new request from the Department of Homeland Security to provide military lawyers, cooks and drivers to assist with handling a surge of migrants along the southern border.


[26-Apr-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
>The move would require authorizing waivers for about 300 troops to a long-standing policy prohibiting military personnel from coming into contact with migrants.


[26-Apr-19 08:07 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Interacting", right.


[26-Apr-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
this is how fascism starts


[26-Apr-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Robert E Lee himself opposed there being monuments to a lost rebellion, he believed it would stifle the nation's healing.


[26-Apr-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is an absolutely unappealing candidate unless you're an old white male scared that your party will turn hard left.


[26-Apr-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
He represents the Clinton-Obama-Clinton approach of leftism that bends with the wind to eke out victories only that are certain, while stealing right-wing ideas pragmatically to prevent Republicans from building broad policy themes.


[26-Apr-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically Conservative Leftism, you intentionally slow down progress so you can cement everything and hope that the ultraconservatives don't realize how weak you are.


[26-Apr-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
You achieve progress by society always slightly surpassing your actual policy, using it as a stepladder to reach toward the glass ceiling. After many decades, it starts to hav effects.


[26-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile corporate America steamrolls the proletariat because you kinda confined social issues to only sex/race


[26-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/26/717449336/kansas-supreme-court-rules-state-constitution-protects-right-to-abortion

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https://www.npr.org/2019/04/26/717449336/kansas-supreme-court-rules-state-constitution-protects-right-to-abortion
Kansas Supreme Court Rules State Constitution Protects Right To Ab...
The court said that the state's Bill of Rights "allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body ... decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy."
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/04/26/690139731_wide-237da08a45629819ba8936fe2d8a546637a2d530.jpg?s=1400


[26-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
The landmark ruling now stands as the law of the land in Kansas with no path for an appeal. Because it turns on the state's Constitution, abortion would remain legal in Kansas even if the Roe v. Wade case that established a national right to abortion is ever reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court.


[26-Apr-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
hahahahaha get fucked


[26-Apr-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
>The decision, in which one of the seven justices dissented, cites in its first sentence the first section of the Kansas Constitution's Bill of Rights: "All men are possessed of equal and inalienable natural rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."


[26-Apr-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that "man" and "men" originally meant "humanity" as a whole, not just male


[26-Apr-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, Kansas GOP gonna try to overturn their constitution's initial words.


[26-Apr-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/asia/sri-lanka-death-toll-lower/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/asia/sri-lanka-death-toll-lower/index.html
Death toll in Sri Lanka Easter attacks lowered by more than 100
The Sri Lankan Health Ministry on Thursday revised the death toll of Easter Sunday's deadly terror attacks, lowering the number of those killed to 253.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190425063307-03-sri-lanka-reactions-0425-super-tease.jpg


[26-Apr-19 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie hey it gets policy done and gets justices appointed


[26-Apr-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All that matters for a while


[26-Apr-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's the problem


[26-Apr-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a short-term plan


[26-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You rob the other party of policy victories for a while while you appoint justices who mildly disagree with them on only a few things


[26-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Honahue#0656
Kansas GOP: "Pursuit of happiness is some liberal bullshit"


[26-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The law you put in place is fikkle and weak, not as cemented as you believed


[26-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
when the other party comes in strong and with new policy, their policy has drifted further away so that you can't steal it


[26-Apr-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they then erode the very process by which you managed to secure victories


[26-Apr-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
and can then stamp in their own judges and bullshit laws that 10 years ago they would've called horrifyingly racist and crazy.


[26-Apr-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Its, Democrats gave Republicans the perfect opening to absolutely smash them with radicalized far-right policies.


[26-Apr-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not focusing on local elections will do that


[26-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's the thing tho


[26-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
when you take this super, super moderated approach


[26-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
when you average out everyone's desires and then step a little closer to the side that's evil still


[26-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
you don't win local elections


[26-Apr-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire approach is meant to win federal elections


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I mean


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody wins a local election by being the most boring guy in the room.


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter where you put your focus.


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your very policy ideas are mant to be California+Texas


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't have the stances to win locally


[26-Apr-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is great when you're trying to win states between California and Texas


[26-Apr-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, Biden's brand of Democrat is a threat to Democrats


[26-Apr-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers need to die faster.


[26-Apr-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-system-automatically-fires-warehouse-workers-time-off-task-2019-4

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-system-automatically-fires-warehouse-workers-time-off-task-2019-4
Amazon's warehouse-worker tracking system can automatically fire p...
Amazon’s demanding culture of worker productivity has been revealed in multiple investigations. But a new report indicates that the company doesn’t just track worker productivity at its warehouses – it also has a system that can automatically fire them.
https://static.businessinsider.com/image/5cc1f12416c65a54c6566339-400.jpg


[26-Apr-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
>Amazon’s demanding culture of worker productivity has been revealed in multiple investigations. But a new report indicates that the company doesn’t just track worker productivity at its warehouses – it also has a system that can automatically fire them.


[26-Apr-19 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But Ocasio-Cortez took jobs away


[26-Apr-19 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/uwebollocks/status/1121802330020696065?s=21 
https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/1121800999415500800?s=21 
https://twitter.com/thickyrubio/status/1115716068062965766?s=21

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Juggalocialism (@UweBollocks)
https://twitter.com/uwebollocks/status/1121802330020696065?s=21
Robert E. Lee, famous for dying when he reached into a vending machine to grab a stuck Twix and then the vending machine fell on him, pushing his head into a toilet full of piss in which he drowned, was a very respected general.
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https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/1121800999415500800?s=21
Look, Robert E. Lee may have lost the war, but at least he was doing his best to preserve and perpetuate a completely indefensible institution, and that is certainly no cause to, say, dig up his bones and slam dunk them into a big toilet
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Robert E. Lee Facts (@thickyrubio)
https://twitter.com/thickyrubio/status/1115716068062965766?s=21
When you take into account how much he loved racism, war and never going outside it’s not a stretch to say that Robert E. Lee was the world’s first gamer.
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[26-Apr-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
>If the system determines the employee is failing to meet production targets, it can automatically issue warnings and terminate them without a supervisor’s intervention, although Amazon said that a human supervisor can override the system. The company also said it provides training to those who don’t meet their production goals.


[26-Apr-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
>when the proletariat is being oppressed not even by human bourgeoisie, but by their machines


[26-Apr-19 09:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Glad to see ya'll all realizing Mark Fischer's notion of Liberal Stalinism.


[26-Apr-19 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
I read a dystopian short story that had this as a premise


[26-Apr-19 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
it started with fast food and warehouse workers eventually worked up to doctors and high skilled workers


[26-Apr-19 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
A friend of mine wrote a short story set in an AnCap dystopia where people traded PF Chang coupons as currency. I don't know if he did anything with it. All he did was explain the premise.


[26-Apr-19 09:14 PM] Honahue#0656
nah this was older, it started in some podunk town's fast food restaruant as a headset that just fed you instructions for how to clean the grill or whatever to reduce errors


[26-Apr-19 09:15 PM] Honahue#0656
but the boost of having that checklist made the system super popular and the started adding features like not just reminding you to do things but timing you at them then taking an average and goals


[26-Apr-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
At work we have to write down the times we start working a cart of new freight and when we finish, along with breaks.


[26-Apr-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think we all lie when we fill out the sheets.


[26-Apr-19 09:16 PM] Honahue#0656
and it moved up to high skilled labor cause even with like 10 years of school surgeons forget things and checklist help prevent doctor's mistakes


[26-Apr-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'll even devote a few minutes to cleaning out misc boxes from it, before writing down my  time as a minute or two ahead of when I finished cleaning up those odd boxes.


[26-Apr-19 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
there's really no job that doesn't have some dumb trivial tasks no matter how high you climb, even the most theoretical and esoteric scientist still gotta fill out paperwork


[26-Apr-19 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COOiV2teMeo

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Black Pigeon Speaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COOiV2teMeo
2019: The SEETHING DisUnited States of America
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/COOiV2teMeo/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
>corporate interests


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
>extreme left


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
what


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
>BSP


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>black pidgeon squeaks

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[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Ever


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What did you expect, Crow


[26-Apr-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
dis is zhe trashcan


[26-Apr-19 09:24 PM] Honahue#0656
corporate media weds itself to the language of the far left only in the name of silencing actual leftist policy


[26-Apr-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
All the while advocating violent imperialism.


[26-Apr-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
"It's not violence when our allies do it." -Everyone in media


[26-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Honahue#0656
it's why leftist get divided about idpol


[26-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Honahue#0656
and it's intentional


[26-Apr-19 09:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
In more coherent topics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdKpBJA_r-c

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Vaush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdKpBJA_r-c
Steven Crowder FAILS to Destroy Socialism, Hilariously Imitates Bl...
Oof, pretty weak arguments against socialism here. Better luck next time, lil Steve! Twitter - https://twitter.com/VaushV Discord - https://discord.gg/T6BzGq...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SdKpBJA_r-c/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Honahue#0656
>fucking ad for a mobile game


[26-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Honahue#0656
shit those corporate sponsors really are buying whole sale into leftist beliefs


[26-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Brain, shut up


[26-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does anyone ever bring that up


[26-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That his breakout role was the pedantic asshole 8 year old no one likes


[26-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
>he only did it for 1 year


[26-Apr-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
who what


[26-Apr-19 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Stephen Crowder was a voice actor once.


[26-Apr-19 09:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder https://means.media/

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https://means.media/
Means TV: the world’s first post-capitalist streaming platform.
We're showing what entertainment looks like when working people have democratic say and ownership over its creation. We can’t do this without you.
https://means.media/static/img/home/hero/hero-home.jpg


[26-Apr-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
>Film is the most powerful tool we have for imagining different worlds.


[26-Apr-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
gamers are the most oppressed minority


[26-Apr-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
(also that honor goes to video games now)


[26-Apr-19 09:54 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-nra-trump/trump-heeds-nra-decides-to-pull-us-out-of-un-arms-treaty-idUSKCN1S21RD

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-nra-trump/trump-heeds-nra-decides-to-pull-us-out-of-un-arms-treaty-idUSKCN1S21RD
Trump to pull U.S. out of U.N. arms treaty, heeding NRA
President Donald Trump on Friday announced at the National Rifle Association...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190426&t=2&i=1381002688&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF3P1JX

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[26-Apr-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-04-26-us-politician-banned-from-eve-online-for-corruption-was-innocent-after-all

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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-04-26-us-politician-banned-from-eve-online-for-corruption-was-innocent-after-all
US politician banned from Eve Online for corruption was innocent a...
Eve Online is known for its outrageous space battles, propaganda and political maneuverings, but things got real earlier this month when an actual US politi…
https://cdn.gamer-network.net/2019/articles/2019-04-26-11-33/us-politician-banned-from-eve-online-for-corruption-was-innocent-after-all-1556274833761.jpg

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[26-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
imagine the trump organization fighting so hard to keep their shit secret specifically because if their finances were ever publicly released, they'd instantly go bankrupt


[26-Apr-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
because of massively overestimating the value of their holdings


[27-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveillance-powers-his-way-out

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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/01/obama-expands-surveillance-powers-his-way-out
Obama Expands Surveillance Powers on His Way Out
With mere days left before President-elect Donald Trump takes the White House, President Barack Obama’s administration just finalized rules to make it easier for the nation’s intelligence agencies to share unfiltered information about innocent people. New rules issued by ...
https://www.eff.org/files/2017/01/12/12333-og-1.jpg


[27-Apr-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
>New rules issued by the Obama administration under Executive Order 12333 will let the NSA—which collects information under that authority with little oversight, transparency, or concern for privacy—share the raw streams of communications it intercepts directly with agencies including the FBI, the DEA, and the Department of Homeland Security, according to a report today by the New York Times.


[27-Apr-19 12:24 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah Obama did it but he was president during the rise of big data any neolib would've done it


[27-Apr-19 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfK5cNNjXtg

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Kay And Skittles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfK5cNNjXtg
The Politics Of Fallout: Capitalist Realism At The End Of The World
Spoiler: I don't much care for neoliberalism. Twitter: https://twitter.com/kayandskittles
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gfK5cNNjXtg/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, do you know of any videos that explain neoliberalism succinctly without getting too anti-capitalist? I wanted to link one of the to my mom who refuses to consider neoliberalism as a concept because she doesn't think it exists since the term applies to the majority of both the republican and the democratic party, and she really hates it when people draw similarities between them


[27-Apr-19 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno. You could probe r/Neoliberalism. Or: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=neoliberalism

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neoliberalism - YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[27-Apr-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Find one


[27-Apr-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
isn't r/neoliberalism a pro-neoliberal subreddit


[27-Apr-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
You wanted a description of NeoLiberalism from a non anti-capitalist suggestion.


[27-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
no, I mean without getting in your face about it


[27-Apr-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
"too anti-capitalist"


[27-Apr-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
But IMO most people leaning into describing philosophical notions of social conditions like neo-liberalism are going to default into being left-leaning


[27-Apr-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then PhilosophyTube


[27-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that my mom took the political sextant quiz and her #1 result was anarcho-capitalism


[27-Apr-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
she denied it and hated it because she thought it was calling her an anarchist


[27-Apr-19 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[27-Apr-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inb4 your mom says the word "ephebophilia"


[27-Apr-19 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Your mom checking out the highschool boys and lusting over the twinks


[27-Apr-19 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like American Pie


[27-Apr-19 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Holy moly


[27-Apr-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
she listens to rush limbaugh, sean hannity, mark levin, michael savage, and some guy named dan bongino all day long, but she doesn't really know much about politics beyond "democrat", "republican", "socialist", "communist", and "muslim"


[27-Apr-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now i can say "ur mum is an ancap" to Crow and it'll be both a joke and truth


[27-Apr-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[27-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
she calls me a socialist


[27-Apr-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
even though I mostly advocate for social democracy


[27-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
even though she says norway isn't socialist


[27-Apr-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
she says everything that norway does is socialist when presented separately and not in the context of norway


[27-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/461/671/4c2

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/461/671/4c2


[27-Apr-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
basically this, but unironically


[27-Apr-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
it's why I found that image so hilarious when I first saw it


[27-Apr-19 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfapDkint3E

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Zero Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfapDkint3E
Evaluating the Žižek vs. Peterson Debate
The debate between Slavoj Žižek and Jordan Peterson was billed as the “debate of the century,” but many on the American far left were unimpressed by the pros...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xfapDkint3E/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
I found my mom's political sextant http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=-2&3=-2&4=-2&5=-2&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=-1&16=-1&17=2&18=2&19=-2&20=-2&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=2&25=-2&26=-2&27=2&28=2&29=-1&30=2&31=-1&32=-1&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-2&37=2&38=-2&39=2


[27-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
100% on ancap, bleeding-heart libertarianism, minarchism, and liberal democracy


[27-Apr-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
not sure what minarchism is


[27-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[27-Apr-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
apparently this is minarchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state

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Night-watchman state
In libertarian political philosophy, a night-watchman state is a model of a state whose only functions are to provide its citizens with the military, the police and courts, thus protecting them from aggression, theft, breach of contract and fraud and enforcing property laws. ...


[27-Apr-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_liberalism

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Neoclassical liberalism
Neoclassical liberalism, also referred to as bleeding-heart libertarianism (BHL) or the Arizona School liberalism, is a libertarian political philosophy and ideology that focuses on the compatibility of support for civil liberties and free markets on the one hand and a concer...


[27-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-measles-vaccination-they-have-get-shot-n998881

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Trump on measles vaccination: 'They have to get the shot'
The president spoke amid a big increase in the number of cases of the highly contagious virus.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2836281/190426-donald-trump-mn-0950_7d03c385f9e46238c88342f81ac1301f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Apr-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
ok, cool how about you do something about it too


[27-Apr-19 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Finally


[27-Apr-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff i misread that quote as "They have to get shot" and missed the "the"


[27-Apr-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Minarchism is incredibly dumb


[27-Apr-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that the same thing as night watchmen state?


[27-Apr-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state

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Night-watchman state
In libertarian political philosophy, a night-watchman state is a model of a state whose only functions are to provide its citizens with the military, the police and courts, thus protecting them from aggression, theft, breach of contract and fraud and enforcing property laws. ...


[27-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[27-Apr-19 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my hvac teacher wants that kind of government and i cant wrap my head aorund any logical reasoning why


[27-Apr-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's American conservatism's endgame.


[27-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly based off Calvinism AFAIK.


[27-Apr-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
leave it to humanity to turn a 1500's insult into a full blown ideaology


[27-Apr-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Reformed tradition preceded John Calvin (1509–1564), who was simply its single most influential exponent; indeed, "Calvinist" was an insult coined in 1553 to describe Protestants who were willing to burn other non-Catholic Christians as heretics.


[27-Apr-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/27/irs-nominee-chuck-rettig-trump-hotel-659313

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Trump's IRS nominee didn't disclose properties were at Trump-brand...
The revelation about the hotel seems certain to come up when Chuck Rettig testifies before the Senate Finance Committee on Thursday.
https://static.politico.com/b8/3a/e15f32fc4e9da4799cff7dfd36da/180627-trump-hotel-waikiki-ap-1160.jpg


[27-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The guy that could release Trump's tax docs is balls deep in Trump money


[27-Apr-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hmmm


[27-Apr-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is...


[27-Apr-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why wouldnt he be...


[27-Apr-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
the amount of fearmongering over bernie is insane


[27-Apr-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
both the "left" and the right are doing it


[27-Apr-19 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well he;s a threat to their fear mongerign way of money laundering


[27-Apr-19 06:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neoliberals have spent too long hijacking both parties to let a true leftist tear it appart


[27-Apr-19 09:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuMNjlOiSI

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Art House Politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuMNjlOiSI
American Amnesia
Our history may as well be recorded on a mini Etch a Sketch
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AuuMNjlOiSI/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Apr-19 09:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Our history may as well be recorded on a mini Etch a Sketch"


[27-Apr-19 09:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/l/more-civilians-killed-by-us-afghan-forces-than-by-insurgentsun/vp-BBWfysw

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More civilians killed by US, Afghan forces than by insurgents:UN
Afghan civilians are for the first time being killed in greater numbers by US and pro-government forces than by the Taliban and other insurgent groups, a UN report reveals.


[27-Apr-19 09:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
T H E   E T E R N A L   W A R    M A C H I N E


[27-Apr-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/world/asia/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-united-nations.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/world/asia/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-united-nations.html
U.S. and Afghan Forces Killed More Civilians Than Taliban Did, Rep...
Afghan civilian deaths attributed to pro-government forces rose in the first quarter of this year, even as overall civilian casualties dropped, according to the U.N.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/24/world/24afghanistan-casualties-1/24afghanistan-casualties-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Apr-19 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://mandascott.co.uk/the-celts-women-and-sex/

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The Celts, Women and Sex
"We consort openly with the best of men, you allow yourselves to be debauched in secret by the vilest." Manda Scott, author of the Boudica: Dreaming series of novels explores sexuality, sex and the role of women in pre-Roman Britain.
https://mandascott.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/treachery-NEW-FB-POST-IMAGE-01-2.jpg


[27-Apr-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
I believe it was in Sebastian Junger's Tribe where I read how women in Native American society lived in comparison to the west. Discussing how in the 18th and even up into the 19th and a bit in the early 20th century western white men would leave to go live with the "primitive natives", Junger recounts an interview colonial authorities wrote down after an exchange of hostages with one of the tribes. The natives gave up the people they had kidnapped, including women and children. On return to the British many - or all - of the prisoners expressed a desire to return, none of the natives wanted to come back. Asking why, one woman reported that in the tribe she could take a husband at any time, and divorce them at any moment. She had total liberation.


[27-Apr-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Most of the captives ran away and rejoined.


[27-Apr-19 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f21f1578b0741fe3f24ada/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/171106_r30848.jpg


[27-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
>Stalin’s primary contribution to the movement, Kotkin maintains, was through his organizing work and his pen—it was to sign an article he wrote on socialism and nationalism that he came up with “Stalin,” after the Russian word for “steel.” Young Stalin developed a clear, catechistic style, and was adept at boiling down complex ideas into simple binaries and folksy fables. That he was a little rougher around the edges than some of the bespectacled Jewish intellectuals who filled the ranks of the early Russian socialist movement was more a testament to the fact that they were bespectacled Jewish intellectuals than that Stalin was particularly thuggish.


[27-Apr-19 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
>Perhaps the most telling detail found in the archives about the young Stalin comes from a tsarist secret-police characterization that has him behaving “in a highly cautious manner, always looking over his shoulder as he walks.” He was careful, well organized, and totally committed. His various activities landed him in prison several times and finally earned him, in 1913, a sentence to Siberian exile, where he remained until the fall of the tsarist autocracy, in February, 1917.


[27-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
>With the help of a mild-mannered Bolshevik named Lev Kamenev, Stalin quickly wrested control of the Party mouthpiece, Pravda, from the younger, less experienced Vyacheslav Molotov, and proceeded to advance a moderate agenda: to remain in the war and even to seek rapprochement with the other socialist parties. Lenin, then in Switzerland, began bombarding Stalin with instructions to take a tougher line: no war and no socialist coalition. Stalin, thinking Lenin out of touch, ignored him.


[27-Apr-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
>It wasn’t until April that Lenin, having negotiated with the Germans to provide him safe passage back to Russia (the Germans realized that he might have a destabilizing effect on their enemy), arrived at the Finland Station, in St. Petersburg, and announced his radical opposition to the current government and to the war.


[27-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
>After the Bolsheviks took power and pulled out of the war, Russia’s former allies joined the civil war on the side of the anti-Bolshevik Whites. British forces landed in the north; British and French forces landed in the south; a Czech battalion, trying to return home via the Trans-Siberian Railway, ended up conquering a swath of western Siberia. None of these forces fought very hard, and by 1920 they were mostly gone. But their intervention convinced the Bolsheviks that the capitalist powers would not rest until Communism was dead.


[27-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
>After the civil war, Stalin watched with trepidation as European governments were overthrown by small groups of determined plotters. In Italy, in 1922, Mussolini was made Prime Minister after merely threatening to march on Rome. In Poland, a few years later, Józef Piłsudski took Warsaw. Romania, Hungary, the Baltic states—all fell under the sway of right-wing dictatorships, and all were deeply hostile to Soviet power.


[27-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
>In Italy, in 1922, Mussolini was made Prime Minister after merely threatening to march on Rome.


[27-Apr-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck lol


[27-Apr-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
I know I've linked stuff about it in the past, but holy shit did italy have a weak government


[27-Apr-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
the main reason was that the leftist government feared the USSR exporting communism to italy and thought that the fascists were a better choice


[27-Apr-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
even though their government was more similar to communism than fascism in terms of how it worked, if not on the face of it


[27-Apr-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like lenin relied on stalin too much and ended up accidentally putting stalin in the position to consolidate too much power, and stalin was corrupted by that power


[27-Apr-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the deal with Stalin is that he was a vicious cycle. He had charisma and intelligence and used them to continually maintain control.


[27-Apr-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
More control meant more need to secure it, and soon enuff he was executing people left and right for criticizing him for killing people.


[27-Apr-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was given power in the first place cause he was organized and efficient. Everyone was too kind at first, and too afraid later, to challenge him when he did things wrong.


[27-Apr-19 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately his efforts to modernize Russia really did more harm than good.


[27-Apr-19 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
basically, stalin is the person who should've been kept at the heart of things, but disconnected from actual leadership roles


[27-Apr-19 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48076262

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Trump to take US out of Arms Trade Treaty
The global pact, signed by Barack Obama, aims to regulate the sale of weapons internationally.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/2293/production/_106615880_b3405473-446a-4ed0-95a7-2d784ef2abe6.jpg


[27-Apr-19 04:59 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Moved from shitposting >>>


[27-Apr-19 04:59 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I can't wait for the US to get socialiEd healthcare so people can see how annoying it is. Ever notice how every dual citizen doesn't want it?


[27-Apr-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ever notice how normal american citizens cant afford healthcare?


[27-Apr-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd take minor annoyance over life long debt over a broken finger


[27-Apr-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really hope that whatever war scheme the republicans have planned doesn't come to fruition


[27-Apr-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I get their mentality in that it;s fucking obvious they assume war is more profitable than peace, but we aren;t in that economic model anymore and war would destroy our economies


[27-Apr-19 05:11 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
How much do you make that you can't afford basic healthcare?


[27-Apr-19 05:11 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
You know what? I've used tricare literally all my life


[27-Apr-19 05:11 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I don't know what health care costs


[27-Apr-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well minimum wage currently is around $11, I dont have a job so none, and my state put age restrictions on a lot of our healthcare options


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
>doesn't have a job
Well... um... I mean it sounds like you're asking for it


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Do you have a college degree?


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have a job because no one will hire me


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Have you considered enlisting?


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] Honahue#0656
Oof


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m currently in college


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
How old are you?


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
28


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and no i;m not joining the military


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Wow dude that SUCKS. You're too old to enlist too


[27-Apr-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt last a month there


[27-Apr-19 05:13 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Why? The military is great. They pay for your school, healthcare, house, and give you tons of exclusive special treatment. Also you save 10-15% at the Home Depot. All they ask in return is your mortal soul


[27-Apr-19 05:14 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
It's honestly the closest thing we have to making a deal with the devil


[27-Apr-19 05:14 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And to be fair most people wild TOTALLY deal with the devil if given the chance


[27-Apr-19 05:14 PM] Honahue#0656
As a veteran no


[27-Apr-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh deals with the devil usually have a horrile twist tot hem


[27-Apr-19 05:14 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
This one does not


[27-Apr-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from what i;ve been told everything is great while you;re int he military, but once you elave they drop you like a fuckign rock in the ocean


[27-Apr-19 05:15 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
@Honahue tricare? GI bill if you deploy which you will most likely do in active service? Base housing!


[27-Apr-19 05:15 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
What branch were you in?


[27-Apr-19 05:15 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Trick question


[27-Apr-19 05:16 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Well the idea is to maybe go to college on the side of invest in other things.


[27-Apr-19 05:16 PM] Honahue#0656
How bout not having to serve an imperial war machine to get basic services?


[27-Apr-19 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds good to me


[27-Apr-19 05:16 PM] Honahue#0656
Officers are for rich fail sons


[27-Apr-19 05:17 PM] Honahue#0656
Enlisted have some decent people but also a.lot of rural.fail sons


[27-Apr-19 05:17 PM] Honahue#0656
Bunch welfare queens


[27-Apr-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what you;ve basically described is a system where they treat you well tillt hey don;t need you and then you;re expected to make it on your own with no assistance at all?


[27-Apr-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds liek a wonderful deal, really


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
@Honahue you can also like, not be poor


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Stop being poor asshole


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh what a wonderful fucking solution


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Whoops


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] Honahue#0656
Kek


[27-Apr-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ill get right on that


[27-Apr-19 05:19 PM] DevField#5162
The Furry Sans, is that you???


[27-Apr-19 05:19 PM] Honahue#0656
The RMoney solution, why don't the poor just buy more money

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[27-Apr-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the meantime why dont i just stop needing medical chekc ups clearly that;s how this works right?


[27-Apr-19 05:20 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Nigga just win the loterry and the  redostribute -- WAIT this is a TRICK


[27-Apr-19 05:20 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Imagine redistributing wealth indiacriminite of personal attributes and character

Please guys, just make more money


[27-Apr-19 05:20 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
This wouldn't be a problem if you weren't poor


[27-Apr-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wow look at allt his money that came into existance because you told me to stop beign poor! i can buy a mansion and a yacht now!


[27-Apr-19 05:21 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
It'd be better if you redistributed your wealth so everyone can afford basic services equally


[27-Apr-19 05:21 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Rather than hoardin it


[27-Apr-19 05:21 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Stop being rich ou piece of shit


[27-Apr-19 05:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Right cause wealth is distributed by attributes and character not generational wealth and connects


[27-Apr-19 05:22 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
@Honahue you bit that hard
Connects are obtained with character and generational write the same. If you can't play the game or politic that sucks for you.


[27-Apr-19 05:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Right


[27-Apr-19 05:23 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Frankly? The best system is the one that ackowledges our flaws


[27-Apr-19 05:23 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
We
Need
Another
Blackie
In the **WHITE** house


[27-Apr-19 05:23 PM] Honahue#0656
Behind every successful billionaire is a safety net of family wealth and connections


[27-Apr-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
@MeowDude[Abby], don't treat this channel as a shitposting channel


[27-Apr-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
it's not /pol/


[27-Apr-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
families close to poverty don;t tend to have useful connections


[27-Apr-19 05:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Also seems to be implying that those who come from rich families are either born with or groomed to have the attributes and character to keep wealth


[27-Apr-19 05:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Which sure if my dad was a billionaire and I started working for him I'd be fucking rich too


[27-Apr-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and rich parents who can bribe the system into accepting their dumbass children


[27-Apr-19 05:27 PM] Crow#5457
billionaire dads almost never actually force their kids to learn what it's like to not have money by not buying them shit they need to survive


[27-Apr-19 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
it always seems to be the kids that turn out shitty, even if the billionaires are self-made


[27-Apr-19 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
the same thing seemed to happen in royalty too


[27-Apr-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now we're goign through that with our elite, their self made parents are retiring or dying, and their dumbass spoiled brats are taking over


[27-Apr-19 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
strong, popular, powerful king? lol not next gen


[27-Apr-19 05:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Every rich some of a rich dad is just that guy that works at his dad's car dealership in a small town but scaled up


[27-Apr-19 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or their dumbass spoiled brats are baby boomers and they run congress and the senate


[27-Apr-19 05:31 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Guys. Look. We said things we didn't mean.


[27-Apr-19 05:33 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes. It's well documented and will always happen. Powerful men raise bitch sons. Welcome to almost all of human history. It's almost not even worth acknoledgkng


[27-Apr-19 05:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Ah yes the life's always been like this deal with it response


[27-Apr-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah and in history it;s people liek us who have to put up with it and it;s gettign fucking old


[27-Apr-19 05:34 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Ye olde "I predicted a response therefore it's wrong" response


[27-Apr-19 05:34 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Seriously what the fuck are you going to do? Force rich people to not spoil their children?


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] Honahue#0656
Not have rich people


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes, because that's ever worked


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
People don't work that way


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah itls called a system that isnt capitalism


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Capitalism is pretty fucked but nothing else we've tried has worked as well.


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
At least nothing that I know of


[27-Apr-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
communism was working pretty well until stalin fucked it


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I don't know the history of that very well, the fact that someone like Stalin could so easily rise to power in that system and just gimp it to shit is pathetic


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] Honahue#0656
The "best" system we got is about to cause an ecological disaster it's not a good system


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stalin riged it to rise to power


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
At least when that happens i  capitalism I get to keep my lax boy


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
LAZVOY


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I hate this phone fuck


[27-Apr-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had people stabbed int he back and assassinated


[27-Apr-19 05:37 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And? He was still able to do that


[27-Apr-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but that's politics not communism


[27-Apr-19 05:37 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And well, it happens in every system actually


[27-Apr-19 05:37 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Politics are inseparable from government


[27-Apr-19 05:37 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Get a group of people - politics. Didn't you say you took sociology?


[27-Apr-19 05:38 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
There's an entire science that says "people suck"


[27-Apr-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i said i enjoyed psychology


[27-Apr-19 05:38 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I liked sociology


[27-Apr-19 05:39 PM] Honahue#0656
People suck so we should encourage the worst out of peoople somehow that's good?


[27-Apr-19 05:40 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
No, we should use a system that has worked with shitty people for a while


[27-Apr-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now there are several countries that do everything for the benefit of it;s citizens and they work remarkably well


[27-Apr-19 05:40 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And it's easy to be a naysayer, what do you propose?


[27-Apr-19 05:40 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
What countries?


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
OwO


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finland, norway, sweden, canada


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the scandinavian region


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iceland


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Canada. Bleh. An example that's been dumped on many times over. Nordic countries aren't very comparable either


[27-Apr-19 05:41 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And I'd rather die from terminus than have an Australia part 2


[27-Apr-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll probably die from terminus anyway since i couldnt afford to get it treated


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Eh.


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
australia is considered to have the best healthcare in the world


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
*NiGGA jUsT be HeAlTHy!*


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
HA


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
even their conservatives aren't willing to touch their healthcare system


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Honahue#0656
Do you know about the atrocities early capitalism committed? Every right to a weekend or 8 hour day or breaks was won from capitalist that wanted work people to death by organised labor. They want those regulations rolled back the system only kinda work with terrible people for a bit and only for a few cause it just moved the horrible work conditions overseas


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
because it would be political suicide


[27-Apr-19 05:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
You've never been to a clinic in Sydney or Darwin


[27-Apr-19 05:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I'm a dual citizen as well


[27-Apr-19 05:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Fuck Aussie Medicare


[27-Apr-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even have dual citizenship as a backup plan


[27-Apr-19 05:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Accessible? Yes. But fuck they're just... they try their best to not prescribe meds and swear by PT but it never works


[27-Apr-19 05:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I'm an Australian and US citizen


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/eipiZRy

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US Expatriate living in Australia. This is the entirety of my expenses after 3 days in the hospital. I am absolutely stunned.
https://i.imgur.com/eipiZRy.png?2


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Private clinics in Australia are dirt cheap though since private insurance doesn't inflate prices


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
27 dollars?


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
that would've cost thousands of dollars in the US


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck sign me the fuck up


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Aussie doctors are weirdos though


[27-Apr-19 05:45 PM] Honahue#0656
Tens of thousands maybe hundreds


[27-Apr-19 05:46 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
They do weird shit, I've had bandages sewed into my arm and the hospitals are like 60s styles in terms of safety


[27-Apr-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look, as long as it;s affordable


[27-Apr-19 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll fucking take it


[27-Apr-19 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least it;s something


[27-Apr-19 05:47 PM] Honahue#0656
In the 60 health outcomes we're getting better the US is slipping in that regard


[27-Apr-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont even have insurance, and if i did theyd have dropped me by now for pre-existing conditions that soem how justify killing me off slowly


[27-Apr-19 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You paid us to pay for your illness that you have, but because you have that illness, we're droppign you and taking your money"


[27-Apr-19 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and since you dont have money, good luck getting any legal council


[27-Apr-19 06:00 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
:ponythinking: never realized how bad it was


[27-Apr-19 06:01 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I take my health for granted.


[27-Apr-19 06:01 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And my very low taxes. I have to pay taxes to Australia to. Why be alive?


[27-Apr-19 06:01 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I guess paying a little more for friends is fair


[27-Apr-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/us/florida-russia-hacking-election.html

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By FRANCES ROBLES
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/us/florida-russia-hacking-election.html
Russian Hackers Were ‘In a Position’ to Alter Florida Voter Ro...
Slipped into the long anticipated Mueller report was a single line that has caused a stir in the state over vulnerabilities in election systems.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/26/us/26florida-01/26florida-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/business/nra-wayne-lapierre-oliver-north.html

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By DANNY HAKIM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/business/nra-wayne-lapierre-oliver-north.html
Insurgents Seek to Oust Wayne LaPierre in N.R.A. Power Struggle
A rift between Mr. LaPierre, the chief executive, and Oliver North, the president, threatened to turn the N.R.A.’s annual convention into outright civil war.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/26/multimedia/26NRA/26NRA-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Apr-19 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
the NRA's being destroyed from both within and without


[27-Apr-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HolRT8n-Jnw

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Secular Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HolRT8n-Jnw
Bernie Asked If Boston Bombér Should Vote In Clever Smear Question
"Most Americans think that criminals should be allowed to vote again after the justice system is done with them, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds. Some 63 pe...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HolRT8n-Jnw/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Apr-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
tfw FOX news gives bernie a fairer platform than CNN


[27-Apr-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
like none of the questions at the fox news town hall were nearly as loaded as the questions that bernie was getting at CNN's town hall


[27-Apr-19 07:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
CNN just bringing in all the snarky Harvard students and young technocrats. Fox had all the people that ultimately would benefit the most.


[27-Apr-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
it's like saying that we should ban water because criminals need to drink it


[27-Apr-19 07:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
That said the Boston Bombers are part of the smallest incarcerated demographic so they hardly matter.


[27-Apr-19 07:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's the people in for life in nonviolent drug charges that are the majority


[27-Apr-19 07:47 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why do we have to question the fairness of media now? You'd think it should be taken for granted, dammit


[27-Apr-19 07:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nothing's fair when five dudes own the super majority of the media


[27-Apr-19 07:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Do biased articles/news reports really rake in the money tho?


[27-Apr-19 07:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Is confirmation bias really that strong


[27-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
ones with really loaded titles do


[27-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
basically just glorified clickbait


[27-Apr-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who gives a shit


[27-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The media should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want as long as it isn't direct libel/slander or incitement


[27-Apr-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And no one should be able to stop them, and they should not be allowed to be criticized by the government


[27-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
what is your definition of incitement? because saying that the libs are coming to take away your guns and that you should be ready to fight sounds a lot like a form of incitement


[27-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
or that the illegals are coming to rape your wife and kill your children


[27-Apr-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"let's go out and kill X"


[27-Apr-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"they're going to" is different from "let's go do this"


[27-Apr-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
and is it because they're slandering a general group instead of a specific person somehow make it okay?


[27-Apr-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[27-Apr-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
that seems like a pretty big blind spot, but ok


[27-Apr-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The better question is, what counts as news and what constitutes a fair debate?


[27-Apr-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fox news isnt even registered as a news station, they register as an entertainment station but people consider them real news. so are they really a news station?


[27-Apr-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it a fair debate when you load it with snarky college students who ask loaded bait questions, or should there be a standard?


[27-Apr-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and what kind of standards should exist for such things


[27-Apr-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when does a news station cross over into propaganda territory and when thye do are they still a news station?


[27-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No standards


[27-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let them do what they want IMO


[27-Apr-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.charlottestories.com/new-nc-bill-would-require-hybrid-owners-to-pay-extra-fees-to-offset-gas-they-dont-use

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New NC Bill Would Require Hybrid Owners To Pay Extra Fees To Offse...
Share:NC State Legislators have just introduced a new bill that would require hybrid and electric vehicle owners to pay an extra annual fee to offset the gas taxes they aren’t paying since their vehicles don’t use as much gas as non-hybrid vehicles. According to the new S...
https://www.charlottestories.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tesla-blocked-in-charlotte.jpg

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[27-Apr-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
california did the same thing


[27-Apr-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
not in the same way, but you have to pay way more on your registration for hybrids and EVs than combustion vehicles


[27-Apr-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
the fuck lol


[27-Apr-19 10:08 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Good job California


[27-Apr-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109824_even-california-imposes-new-fee-on-electric-cars-in-lieu-of-gas-taxes

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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109824_even-california-imposes-new-fee-on-electric-cars-in-lieu-of-gas-taxes
Even California imposes new fee on electric cars in lieu of gas taxes
Last week, the California state legislature approved a $52 billion transportation-funding package. Unlike the practice in previous years, this one is to be used only for improvements to the transportation infrastructure, to begin cutting into an estimated $ 130 billion backlo...
https://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/golden-gate-bridge-connecting-san-francisco-and-marin-county-california_100310920_l.jpg


[27-Apr-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
>A new, $100 annual fee will be  imposed on all zero-emissions vehicles, although not until 2020. California now has almost half the country's battery-electric and plug-in hybrid cars on its roads.


[27-Apr-19 10:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Tax in EVs
Vehicle thing sounds like russian petrol thing:
> Oil price increases.
> Petrol price increases.
> Oil price drops.
> Pertol price increases.
> Wtf?
> "We need to compensate for losses due to oil price drip by increasing pertol price."


[27-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/ca-150-ev-tax-has-kicked-more-expensive-gas-tax

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https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/ca-150-ev-tax-has-kicked-more-expensive-gas-tax
CA $150 EV Tax has kicked in, more expensive than gas tax.... | Tesla
Was strange, I went to my Tesla Account to pay for the Model 3. Paid it in full, received a confirmation that said "your Model 3 is fully paid".


[27-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
there was already a $150 increase too


[27-Apr-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
that was the one I was looking for


[27-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
so there's going to be another $100 increase in 2020


[27-Apr-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, this is why california a shit lol


[27-Apr-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the $100 increase in 2020's going to make it more expensive per year to own an EV than a combustion vehicle


[27-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Litrojia#0612
Even my climate denier dad thought about getting an EV for the gas savings. Taxing to offset gas revenue certainly keeps those kinds of people away from EVs


[27-Apr-19 10:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
💸 > 🌎


[27-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
apparently registration fees go up with how many miles you drive, and the rate changes with different vehicles


[27-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
like driving a big beefy hummer's going to cost a shitload more per mile than a little smartcar


[27-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
but hybrids use much less gas, and EVs don't use gas at all


[27-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
which actually makes this somewhat logical


[27-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's ridiculous


[27-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's too complicated as well as completely opposite the right course of action.


[27-Apr-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
even if it's a shitty policy


[27-Apr-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should be taxing the SHIT out of gas vehicles to pay for things.


[27-Apr-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like


[27-Apr-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
50 cent tax per gallon of gas


[27-Apr-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
the registration fees are ostensibly for maintaining the roads


[27-Apr-19 10:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You are not allowed to be independent of our oily overlords. You must contribute to the change of climate.


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most places electric cars are basically just regular cars with more steps involved


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you get your electricity from oil or gas


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Honahue#0656
we'll still need oil even without cars


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fewer steps...


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you must consume oil like a beverage, so sayeth our oily overlords


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Honahue#0656
or power


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's way less maintenance


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
less dealership hassle (for Tesla, at least)


[27-Apr-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to worry about gear ratios at all


[27-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Electric cars are simpler in every level.


[27-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
even getting power from the dirtiest state in the country allows you to break even in terms of pollution in about 7-8 years


[27-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
with an EV


[27-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Electric vehicles are ridiculously good for the consumer, @Itsthinking


[27-Apr-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only trouble is they are expensive as shit initially.


[27-Apr-19 10:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I get my power for a wind farm and  about 16kw from my solar panels.


[27-Apr-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
electric vehicles are like geothermal HVAC, really fucking expensive the first go, but it pays off long term


[27-Apr-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/04/duke-energy-north-carolina-solar-rebate-program-reopens/ in the meantime duke energy apparently lost it;s legal battle with solar energy

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Duke Energy Reopens North Carolina Solar Rebate Program | CleanTec...
Last year, Duke Energy paid out some $6 million to North Carolina customers in solar rebates, with more than 1,300 of its customers having installed solar systems in 2018 under a 4-year, $62 million program, and the company has just opened up the window for new applications for
https://cleantechnica.com/files/2018/09/solar-panels-duke-energy_duke-energy.jpg


[27-Apr-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking petrol cars _require_ petrol as the source of energy and while it is possible for us to synthesize it with renewable methods it is much more difficult than to directly use electrical energy to power vehicles


[27-Apr-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and we _can_ in fact make electrical energy pretty efficiently


[27-Apr-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and more importantly, in a 100% renewable way


[27-Apr-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/inside-warren-buffett-junk-food-diet-which-includes-5-cans-of-coke-mcdonalds-and-dairy-queen

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Warren Buffett's diet still includes 5 cans of coke, McDonald’s ...
The 88-year-old billionaire admits he eats like a six-year-old.
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2019/04/0/0/warren-buffett-coke-Reuters.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[27-Apr-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do rich people not eat like rich people anymore


[27-Apr-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
trump


[27-Apr-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like all three of these things you could get gourmet versions of them that taste better


[27-Apr-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're doing the trump power diet


[27-Apr-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A locally produced cola, a fresh burger, and gelato


[27-Apr-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're gonna kill yourself with food at least make it good


[27-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
there's a fancy cola I found on amazon that I'd like to try someday


[27-Apr-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.amazon.com/Fentimans-Natural-Soda-Curiosity-Cola/dp/B003NBF0AS


[27-Apr-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
that one's 20 cents per fluid ounce


[27-Apr-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
for comparison, a 12 pack of coca-cola cans on amazon costs 3 cents per fluid ounce


[27-Apr-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
so about 7 times more expensive than coca cola per volume


[27-Apr-19 10:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't fall for the if it cost a lot of money then if must be good traps. A lot of very expensive food tastes worse than cheaper alternatives. They are also not always healthier. You can go to that health nut Jamie oliver and order a burger that has been coated in 3 layers of cheese then dipped in fat with cheese on top and with dipping gravy on the side. 🤢


[27-Apr-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can probably buy a cheaper luxury alternative at brick retail stores


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, that soda uses cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Gay


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
so it's already better than coca cola off the bat in terms of healthiness


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I only drink RC


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point


[27-Apr-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i miss when inka kola was a thing in america

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[27-Apr-19 10:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇺🇸  Forgot about the US


[27-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
>... [Stalin] refused to allow European Communist parties to ally with social democrats—a decision that helped propel Adolf Hitler to power. As Kotkin points out, “In no free and fair election did the Nazis ever win more votes than the Communists and Social Democrats combined.”


[27-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
huh


[27-Apr-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it's possible to lowkey blame stalin for hitler


[27-Apr-19 11:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Thanks Stalin?


[27-Apr-19 11:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine if the soviets didn't have to fight the Nazis. :premium:


[27-Apr-19 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-74

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https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-74
Episode 74: Liberal Gandhi Fetishism and the Problem with Pop Noti...
"The United States believes any Palestinian government must renounce violence,” a U.S. official told Ha'aretz. When it comes to nonviolence, writes Barbara Reynolds in The Washington Post, “Black Live
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[28-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/a9xya4/what_are_some_psychology_experiments_with/ecnkspa>


[28-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
Solomon Asch's experiment on conformity. He set up a test wherein he would show 3 lines of different lengths to 5 or 6 individuals (I forgot the exact number) who had to state which line was the longest of the 3. The thing is, only the last individual is the participant and the others are actors paid to answer in a specific manner. For the first few questions, they choose the correct answer, but later on they start choosing the wrong one. The participants are conflicted as to whether they will say the correct answer or conform to the wrong answer as to not be judged by others or due to self-doubt of their own answers. In the end, most do conform.

It's really interesting since it shows how powerful conformity is in the face of doubt, up to a point that some even question their own sanity during the test.

Another variation of the experiment also had interesting results. It had the same set up with 5 individuals with the last person being the participant. However, this time some of the actors say the wrong answer while 1 actor says the correct one. There was an increase in participants who would choose the correct answer and avoid conformity. It shows how much doubt one can have on oneself when alone, but be brought back to self-confidence when they find outside support.


[28-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr humans naturally conform


[28-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://thinkprogress.org/driver-targeted-crowd-muslim-california-221e183f6f36/

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Police: Man plowed his car into crowd because he thought they were...
A 13-year-old girl remains in critical condition in a coma.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-1144883919.jpg?w=1024&h=681&crop=1


[28-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Police: Man plowed his car into crowd because he thought they were Muslim


[28-Apr-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Isaiah Joel Peoples, a 34-year-old army veteran, deliberately drove his car into a crowd of people in Sunnyvale, California, because he thought some of them were Muslim, police said Friday.


[28-Apr-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
>Peoples is accused of hitting eight pedestrians with his car Tuesday evening. According to police, Peoples had picked up food and was driving to a Bible study group when he intentionally drove into a crosswalk. A witness told the San Francisco Chronicle that he reached speeds of 60 miles per hour before striking the victims. “After crashing, he dragged himself out of the sedan and repeatedly moaned, ‘Thank you, Jesus,’ witnesses said. Police found a disassembled, inoperative shotgun in the Toyota.”

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[28-Apr-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a fucking monster


[28-Apr-19 02:09 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Historical inaccuracies in Call of Duty WWII

https://steamcommunity.com/app/476600/discussions/0/1479857071256310495/

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How historically inaccurate this game is :: Call of Duty: WWII Gen...
Just a few AND yes I’m doing this since the director for sledgehammer games said that this games single player was suppose to be “realistic”. I find it stupid that a man can just lie to us like that, so if you see one please post it here. You can say I’m a hater of co...
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[28-Apr-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meh


[28-Apr-19 02:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ArP7G00pfMI

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Hey guys today I wanted to go over some of the many historical inaccuracies in COD: WW2, mainly in the campaign. This shows how little research the developer...
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[28-Apr-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is a call of duty game, and there's going to be a lot of historical inaccuracies since there;s a lot of minor events in world war 2 that arent recorded by history


[28-Apr-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can;t name any of them since they aren;t recorded by history


[28-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's ever been a call of duty game that was 100% historically accurate


[28-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
after all, the whole series has its own, alternate timeline


[28-Apr-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
or maybe that was just modern warfare


[28-Apr-19 02:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
The problem is that it was advertised as having a historically accurate campaign.

 @Crow

The older games and World at War were historically accurate.


[28-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't really a political thing anyway


[28-Apr-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
not sure why it's being linked here lol


[28-Apr-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it can be historically accurate and not be 100% accurate.


[28-Apr-19 02:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Well, it kinda is political. That and I couldn't find any other place to post it.

 @prism stryder(intexda)

The problem is that WWII features the most historically, and realistically, inaccurate stuff out of all the World War 2 video games. (The infamous train sequence is 100% impossible.)


[28-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
... there's #general-discussion


[28-Apr-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
that's a place you can post most things


[28-Apr-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
infamous train sequence?


[28-Apr-19 02:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay. I also find it political do to the fact WWII omits the SS uniforms and has the option to play as black female Nazis in multiplayer. (Something that is more done to be politically correct.)

 @prism stryder(intexda)

The level where you derail a train simply by getting in front of it in a very small, and weak, vehicle.


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
oh, so this is about how "da libz" are destroying gaming


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
should've said that from the start lol


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The former was removed from the game, iirc


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or maybe people jsut wanted to play as a black lady nazi and they took artistic license to make it happen?


[28-Apr-19 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The latter is physical inaccuracy, not historical inaccuracy


[28-Apr-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But, alas, everyone knows the truth


[28-Apr-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The truth is


[28-Apr-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY


[28-Apr-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**GAMERS RISE UP**


[28-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
cawciety


[28-Apr-19 02:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Is your religion Cawthlic?


[28-Apr-19 02:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Sorry I couldn't resist.


[28-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
cawtheism


[28-Apr-19 02:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ah. Okay.


[28-Apr-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cawnfucianism


[28-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
cawtestant


[28-Apr-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
cawltic


[28-Apr-19 02:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm a Neightanist.


[28-Apr-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Marxist


[28-Apr-19 02:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No no no. You've got to say it in a animal sound.


[28-Apr-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Cawmmunist


[28-Apr-19 02:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
There you go.


[28-Apr-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mooxist


[28-Apr-19 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder MB agreed to the premises of Marxist economics


[28-Apr-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
marxist economics sounds way better than what we currently have


[28-Apr-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as we don't ressurect stalin, we might be ok


[28-Apr-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED, FROM EACH HIS ABILITY


[28-Apr-19 02:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

I prefer democracy. As it doesn't lead to anarchy and/or lose of freedom.


[28-Apr-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
marxism is an economic model, it can be used with democracy


[28-Apr-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Thinking Anarchism and Democracy are two seperate thing


[28-Apr-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fam, we have no democracy


[28-Apr-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
But we all know you won't listen.


[28-Apr-19 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 02:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

They are different and we do have democracy, unless you're a mind controlled commie that's completely stupid.


[28-Apr-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 No. We have corporate interests using the framework of democracy to obtain a mandate to push one of their own paid-off cronies into power, to serve their own interests; not ours. I can't march on Washington or the state capital with demands or a petition without the police blocking me at the door step.


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
>mind-controlled commie


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can't go to work, and sit down and make decisions on what to do for that day.


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can't even pick my doctor.


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
mind control isn't real


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

We do have a democracy. You couldn't do that in any political area.


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
it's okay


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
you're safe


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not without paying the price, which if beyond my reach and many others.


[28-Apr-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sombra and Starlight can't team up to get you


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Starlight isn't a Commie anymore. She's a conservative.


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Our democracy is only an illusion in so far as we pretend it exists.


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually in every thing we've seen her in, she's a liberal


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
except for her first appearance, where she was more conservative


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No, you have it backwards.


[28-Apr-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
>>1349377


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[28-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but sure, insist on completely switching the labels so that liberals conserve the same values and such while conservatives agitate and call for reform


[28-Apr-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[28-Apr-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not like that's **fukking retarded and done just so you can do mental gymnastics** or anything.


[28-Apr-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Hey man if you want me to make $50 an hour I'm not gonna stop you from advocating for me


[28-Apr-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Just call it what it is


[28-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Starlight consistently defies authority and does the most rational thing, even when it's out of left field crazy.


[28-Apr-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
She fukking swapped the princesses' cutie marks as an experimental solution on a whim.


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll take $50 an hour


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Also, Communism is a oppressive form of politics that pretends to give freedom, only to take it away.

In a Communist State, you can't have freedom of religion, freedom of choice, freedom of speech, etc.

 @Nebbie

She's so conservative.


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB is the one brainwashed here.


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
She's a conservative-Liberal.


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

No I'm not.


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's a what now?


[28-Apr-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're a fucking meme man


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've not only reversed the terms


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

No I'm not.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're now combining them.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes you are


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Litrojia#0612
"no u"


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Fuck. Off.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
No you


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No you.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
TMB every time you talk about ideologies


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you make clear you hav no idea what they are


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You *hav* an ideology, but it's not what you believe you hav.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder MB still agreed to the Marxist critique of wage labor.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're opposing things or not based on labels.


[28-Apr-19 02:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I do know what Ideologies are.


[28-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay then, explain what fascism is to me.


[28-Apr-19 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p Zizek


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[28-Apr-19 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p slavoj zizek


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[28-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And before you write out a huge paragraph


[28-Apr-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I demand three sentences or less.


[28-Apr-19 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Twist totally hangs a photo of Stalin on the wall


[28-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Limit yourself to the size of a tweet.


[28-Apr-19 02:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Fascism is a political view in which a country is ruled by a dictator figure and, depending on the person, is often oppressive.


[28-Apr-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you confused it with dictatorship


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No, I didn't.


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and also managed to squeeze out half the substance of what you're saying.


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, then how is dictatorship different than fascism?


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
I bet he doesn't even read Umberto Eco


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
So he can't talk about fascism.


[28-Apr-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's already lost in the cloud of his own ideology


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

A dictatorship doesn't belong to one ideology. Communism, Nazism, Fascism, and Socialism can all be a form of Dictatorship.


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet he hasn't read even Hannah Arendt


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

You're confusing me with yourself.


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're dumb


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No I'm not.


[28-Apr-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't know what fascism is


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
this will be his third strike in #politics btw


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes I do.


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
you gave a definition that's basically dictatorship


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I asked you to differentiate


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you just said dictatorship knows no particular ideology


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've completely missed the point.


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the record


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
How did I miss the point?


[28-Apr-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
a dictatorship is a country ruled by one man, a dictator, often oppressively.


[28-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is an ideology based around using authoritarianism and oppression to run a country, with arbitrary rules in the law to be used as weapons against political opponents.


[28-Apr-19 02:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Isn't that the same as a dictatorship?


[28-Apr-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[28-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism can be done with multiple rulers, and in theory even with Democracy


[28-Apr-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not only that, but fascism also has a large ammount of control mechanisms (propaganda, surveillance, etc.) to induce its population to trust the regime more than any person they know.


[28-Apr-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It usually results in a dictatorship because dictatorships do totalitarianism, which is useful in fascism.


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If all dictatorships were fascist, then Julius Caesar was a fascist, and so was every king in history.


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not how it works.


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ah. That's where I got confused.

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Caesar is often considered Fascist.


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Often?


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
:faceclaw:


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism and Dictatorship both involve authoritarian governance, but Fascism is about how the government governs (beat opponents at all costs, stranglehold on culture) while Dictatorship is about how the government is structured (one man above all)


[28-Apr-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cite one historian who argues that Caesar was fascist.


[28-Apr-19 02:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One.


[28-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[28-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism is Fascist


[28-Apr-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incredibly so


[28-Apr-19 02:51 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I said he was often considered to be fascist, I never said by historians.


[28-Apr-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by whom?


[28-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, by random idiots you happen to agree with...k.

Stalin believed that killing political opponents and making people turn on each other was the best way to govern, and would use class designations to target people, btw.


[28-Apr-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
caesarism is considered to have parallels to fascism, not actually be considered fascism


[28-Apr-19 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Julius Caesar was a populist above all


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Fascist Italy.


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that was Mussoulini's PROPAGANDA


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was PRETENDING to be Ceasarist


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I don't agree with them. I was just saying.


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a key aspect of fascism btw


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
that of outright lies in propaganda to keep people on some artificial narrative that supports your rule


[28-Apr-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
>rome is in modern day italy
>rome was the capital of the roman empire
>italy is the founder of fascism
>therefore, the roman empire was fascist


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
To manipulate culture by any means necessary to support the current ruling party.


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

So, basically, what Communism is.


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rewriting history to portray historical characters as part of the nation's identity is a key aspect of fascism and even moderate nationalism, which is a conservative ideal.


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism is a particular brand of Fascism


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
A brand that focused on class distinctions and propaganda and killing.


[28-Apr-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(as opposed to religion, race, and other things fascists like to mess with)


[28-Apr-19 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some French would point to the ancient Celts as "their forefathers"m nevermind that, if you went back in time and asked a Gallic Celt about "the French", he won't even know what the hell you are talking about.


[28-Apr-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
this planet would probably be a much better place to live if stalin hadn't been able to take power like he did


[28-Apr-19 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"French? Don't you mean the Franks, that tribe across the Rhine?"


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we tiem travel assassinate stalin before he ever gets power?


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Please, the planet would be better if Marx was never born and Theodore Roosevelt became president instead of Woodrow Wilson.


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fascism is more often not an arrangement of authority vested in a single individual or even a small group of individuals, that is just normal authoritarianism. While fascism is authortarian by nature, it is not strictly authoritarianism. Authoritarianism can be present in any other political system, from the liberal dictatorship of the French Revolution and some would argue of Napoleon to the traditional conservative authoritarianism of monarchy; in the shape of the House of Saud or even the Ayatollah of Iran. Fascism's peculiar brand of authoritarianism isn't wrapped up in the naked will of power invested in a police state or military as in the US-backed Samoza government of Nicaragua or the Soviet siege state. Fascism's brand of authoritarianism is reliant particularly on its rhetoric.


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd ideally want to get him right as Lenin dies


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get Trotsky in charge of Russia.


[28-Apr-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marx is not why Stalin came to be.


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 if Marx was never born, someone else would come up with his brand of socialist vanguardist ideology


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
there was nearly marxist thought in the 1600's


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
As Umberto Eco the Italian writer explains in his essay Ur-Fascism, the brand of authoritarianism brandished by the Mussolini regime he lived through was invested in its rhetoric, and not logic; as is in the case of liberal government and socialism.


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A Frenchman called Louis Auguste Blanqui already came up with Marx's "organized revolution" ideal before Marx himself, iirc


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Get a room you two.


[28-Apr-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia was gonna hav a revolution, one way or the other.


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just so happened that Stalin was a charismatic paranoid well-organized asshole in the midst of it.


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think Twilight crossed with Sombra


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No, but The Russian Civil War is. The civil war only happened because the Russians were running out of supplies. If America had entered the war sooner, it might have resulted in a democratic system taking over instead of communism.


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia had many problems aside of being at war


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fascism in the case of Mussolini and Hitler deployed rhetorical devices to grab and hold power. From appealing to an undefined populace, making themselves out to be the head of an uncited popular will of the entire government, to launching themselves ahead on the fears and terrors of the Middle Class, always afraid of the revolutionary power of the working lower class.


[28-Apr-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
many, many problems


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Excuse me for a moment.


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 are you literally copying that video from AlternateHistoryHub without crediting them


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it had an out-of-touch monarchy in a time when monarchies were under severe threat


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Czar Nicholas II was an ass.


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Absolutism forever" was his motto.


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiI6kXZkZI

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The Election That Ruined Everything (And If It Never Happened)
Go to https://NordVPN.com/althist and use code ALTHIST to get 75% off a 3 year plan, plus an extra month for free! Woodrow Wilson in one term, transformed ho...
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[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This one?


[28-Apr-19 02:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiI6kXZkZI

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AlternateHistoryHub
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiI6kXZkZI
The Election That Ruined Everything (And If It Never Happened)
Go to https://NordVPN.com/althist and use code ALTHIST to get 75% off a 3 year plan, plus an extra month for free! Woodrow Wilson in one term, transformed ho...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hLiI6kXZkZI/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Apr-19 02:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
It's so accurate.


[28-Apr-19 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no. It's alternate history.


[28-Apr-19 02:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Not all of it.


[28-Apr-19 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alternate history can only be predictable for a short ammount of time after the point of divergence, after which anything could happen.


[28-Apr-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And there were events leading up to the Revolution which spurned revolutionary spirit; success actually. The people could grasp power. The only thing a different WW1 would have changed would  be the Czar's exhaustion and the people's faith. But returning from the war less than expended would have meant more power for the absolutism of Nicholas the Crow Killer


[28-Apr-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't base your historical arguments too much on alternate history. Stick to what we know, what actually happened, when talking about politics and history.


[28-Apr-19 03:00 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Who cares? At least his family wouldn't have been murdered.


[28-Apr-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB's brain is as smooth as a bowling ball


[28-Apr-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to point out that one of Marx's things was to look at history more from a perspective of overall trends and statistical probabilities instead of great leaders and their actions, IIRC


[28-Apr-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fuck his family, they deserved it


[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stuck up kids


[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The lot of 'em


[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you are essentially discounting Marx's ideas to begin with in order to say Russia wasn't gonna hav a revolution


[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

You fucking asshole. You're the one who deserves to die.

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[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it only had one because of some fluke in America


[28-Apr-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Come and get me, twiggy


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I'll just have the CIA do that.


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you for confirming the CIA as being gestopo tier.


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
And when it happens, I hope this chat reveals the cards


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
And we add another sin to America's millions


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
for I go like Joe Hill


[28-Apr-19 03:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I didn't.

Btw, you started this by saying innocent people deserved to be murdered.


[28-Apr-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
OK, twink


[28-Apr-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Go dress up as an SS officer some more


[28-Apr-19 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>the tsar
>who frequently ordered scores of protestors to be gunned down
>"innocent"


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a damn monarchy


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk
I'm not a Nazi. Fuck off.

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

I'm referring to his family.


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what they actually taught princesses at the time?


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Don't care.


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically taught them how to seduce men for the sake of stabbing them in the bakk


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally.


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Good.


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21

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[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia had severe previous issues with royal families and all sorts of crap like coups and putting rightful heirs in Siberia


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get fucking roasted, dude


[28-Apr-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.deviantart.com/themultibrony22/art/Edward-Richtofen-Halloween-Cosplay--770649872

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[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

He's not a SS, nor is he a Nazi Nazi.


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
"nor is he a Nazi Nazi"


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait what


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I'm sure he's just a candy Nazi


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
>An insane CoD character who expouses death loudly as you play is not a Nazi Nazi


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The swastika represents giving candy to kids or something.


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf is going on


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈
He's Edward Richtofen from Call of Duty Zombies.


[28-Apr-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.deviantart.com/themultibrony22/art/Mal-Waffen-SS-616468849

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Mal Waffen-SS
My OC, Mal, as a Waffen-SS Officer, inspired by Keller from Wolfenstein: The New Order.
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[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're a fucking fash, fam


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stop hiding it and get the boot


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Would you stop spamming, you fucking troll.


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure that SS pony is just totally innocent guys.


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hey, it's not me who posted this shit


[28-Apr-19 03:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

No, but I didn't post them because I support Nazism.

 @Nebbie

He is.


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
>" I support Nazism."


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty sure that's a trace of Twi from the episode she time travels and become Solid Sparkle


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what the SS **did**?


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
DURRUTI


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
GET THE RIFLES

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[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Excuse me wtf


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
WE GOT ONE


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Not all of the SS were like that.


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
suuuuure


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
There were some good ones.


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>NOT ALL OF THE SS


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's okay guys I just worked for Hitler to round up jews


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wasn't one of the bad ones


[28-Apr-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Dude not all of them supporting and aided in a massive killing machine. So it's OK if I praise one of "the good ones"


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Said no one.


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.deviantart.com/themultibrony22/art/Ponified-Terminator-Waffen-SS-616465388

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Ponified Terminator, Waffen-SS
A pony terminator wearing the uniform of a waffen-ss officer.
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[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Would you take this seriously you fucking trolls?


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
sadly the good Nazi's were executed by the bad one for trying to kill Hilter


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
like Stauffenberg


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I take it seriously it means I should never listen to you again lol.


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Why?


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 for the love of god, i have one suggestion.
Read **Eichmann in Jerusalem** by Hannah Arendt. Start from there, then move on to Umberto Eco.


[28-Apr-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you're insane.


[28-Apr-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 03:09 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No I'm not, you asshole.


[28-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do all sorts of mental gymnastics to dance around any actual problem with what you say.


[28-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to fetishize nazis but excuse them as not really being bad


[28-Apr-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you also swap left and right and liberal and conservative labels on a whim


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
MultiBrony is a wehraboo? Lol


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
you also go on about mind-controlled commies and how if you know something is marxist, you won't argue for it


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho it's what you believe.


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, rhetorical gymnastics to avoid criticsm because he has no logical foundation. WE GOT ONE, UMBERTO ECO


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I know for a fact that there were some SS who did not kill innocent people. But, sadly, history erases them to make them all bad.


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah cause the Nazi's killed them


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

Some managed to escape.


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, that's like saying that it's okay because you *only signed up for mass murder*, and weren't given an assignment.


[28-Apr-19 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's hilarious is that it's not even the Wehrmacht he's trying to excuse, as with the usual wehraboo, it's the fucking SS


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

No it's not.


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
T R A S H   H U M A N


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being part of the SS implies you at the very least were a bad person.


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't make you guilty of murder inherently but like


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

False.


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
sheesh dude.


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
AntiFa High Command requests you purge this threat.


[28-Apr-19 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>later complains about being called a nazi


[28-Apr-19 03:12 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Just because you were "In the SS" did not mean you were bad. It just meant you had some high standing in citizenship.


[28-Apr-19 03:12 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk


Antifa are just as bad as Neo-Nazis.


[28-Apr-19 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[28-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You actually had to sign up to be in the SS you know


[28-Apr-19 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_to_the_German_Resistance

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[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

Yes.


[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
they don't try to hide them either


[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a museum for the German resistance


[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pazLZoTRec

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[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
A person once said:

"History is written by the victors, history is full of Liers."


[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
NAZI THUG FUCK OFF


[28-Apr-19 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
NAZI THUG FUCK OFF


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
NAZI THUG FUCK OFF


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 post your hog please


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, post hog


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk @AaronMk

I'm not a Nazi you fucking commie piece of shit!


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post hog @TheMultiBrony21


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mein gott


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyc62g7YQM0

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[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post hog @TheMultiBrony21


[28-Apr-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nazism good, communism bad, am i doing this right?


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So remember how a key aspect of fascism


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Both are bad.


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
I certainly missed a lot of hilarious shit going out to get my order from amazon


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
is that it uses rhetorical trikks, and outright lies, to sound good


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
yeaaaaaah


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
also, who's nicholas the crow killer >:V


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Tsar, Crow


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Czar Nicholas II


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
His hunts killed thousands of crows.


[28-Apr-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
He actually killed more crows than dogs


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 btw lemme see that succulent hog of yours


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

He must have been a good hunter. Crows are hard to kill.


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
post hog


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or he had high powered rifles


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
lots of them


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Post hog or get banned for that heresy


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
shotguns


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not a post hog, nor a Nazi.


[28-Apr-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You haven't posted your hog yet tho


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

I don't have a hog.


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure if you're a Nazi, but you're clearly someone manipulated by fascist rhetoric into spouting pro-fascist shit.


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Oh you poor eunuch


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Nebbie

I'm not pro-fascist.


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post the decimation of your hog


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
>I'm not pro-fascist but I dress up like a nazi and defend them to the death


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post your post-hog


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Wrong.


[28-Apr-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
what's a hog anyway


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Penis


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
so what is it that you've been doing this whole time?


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
that's a strange slang


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
>I'm not pro-fascist I just think that as soon as an idea is attached to my enemy ideology, I must oppose it


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
>I'm not pro-fascist I just blindly reiterate fascist propaganda


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

I've been attempting to explain that not everyone in the SS was a cold-hearted bastard.

 @Nebbie

Wrong.


[28-Apr-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
except being a cold-hearted bastard was practically a requirement to even be considered for the SS


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
the one's that weren't cold hearted ended up dead mostly


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

Not all of them. Most hid.


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
cause the other Nazi's killed them


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

Not all of them.


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Post the decimation of your hog.


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[28-Apr-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that was a thing in the recent battlefield 5, tons and tons and tons of german deserters being killed by their fellows


[28-Apr-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the "few virtuous SS officers" even were there, it's likely that they escaped the organization, or kept up their role as officers only as a disguise for spying on the nazis for the allies


[28-Apr-19 03:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

I didn't play that historically inaccurate SJW garbage.


[28-Apr-19 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Post the decimation of your hog


[28-Apr-19 03:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was no such thing as a "virtuous" faction in the SS, because the whole organization was built from the ground up with the intent to cause mass murder, torture, genocide, among all those other things a sane person would not condone.


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hey MB, if we hang you upside down from a lightpost will you show hog?


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
How about I shoot you with a shotgun?


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The virtuous Wehrmacht is a myth as well


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Itsthinking

Lies.


[28-Apr-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
No army was virtuous.


[28-Apr-19 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Post hog


[28-Apr-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There is no sich thing as an "innocent SS". In fact, there is no such thing as an "innocent" or "forgivable" nazi.


[28-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
An army as an organization is effectively a massive sociopath composed of individual people that are scared shitless.


[28-Apr-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@TheMultiBrony21 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Wehrmacht

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Clean Wehrmacht
The term Clean Wehrmacht (German: Saubere Wehrmacht), Clean Wehrmacht legend (Legende von der sauberen Wehrmacht), or Wehrmacht's "clean hands" denotes the myth that the Wehrmacht was an apolitical organization along the lines of its predecessor, the Reichswehr, and was large...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Neonaziaufmarsch_in_Muenchen.jpg


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.deviantart.com/themultibrony22/favourites


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Erwin Rommel, for example, was a very nobel and kind-hearted officer in the Wehrmacht. He was strongly against the Holocaust but was allowed to stay because of his brilliant tactics. He, unfortunately, was forced to commit suicide in 1944 when he was implemented in a plot to kill Hitler.


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Literal fashie material in favorites


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I-I'm not a fascist defender!"


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post hog @TheMultiBrony21


[28-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
that's one good SS and they had to suicide cause the rest of the SS was shit


[28-Apr-19 03:25 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Will you fuck off? Trolling isn't allowed here.

 @Honahue

Some didn't. They hid their thoughts and never said a word to avoid their own families from being rounded up.


[28-Apr-19 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
There was no good SS


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post hog, you fuck


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The SS was not something you just joined.


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Yes there were.


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
No there weren't.


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
The only good Nazi is a defeated one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nbDIqBi0lA

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60,000 Steps To Degredation Aka Degradation (1944)
Title reads: "60,000 steps to degradation". Moscow, Russia (Soviet Union, USSR). Various C/Us of dejected German soldiers in filthy ragged uniforms. Various ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-nbDIqBi0lA/hqdefault.jpg


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Yes there were.


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Wrong.


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Do you want to join the "good ones"?


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] Honahue#0656
the only good Nazi's are the ones that defected and became not Nazi's or were considered traitors and killed by other Nazi's


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then you can follow your leader


[28-Apr-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ss was literally built to be a killing machine


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Honahue#0656
either way they stopped being Nazi's


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

How about you join Stalin?


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
In peaceful death? I plan to


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stalin died of a heart attack


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But ok


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
**cocks shotgun**


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
maybe actually say something to defend your point other than "no u"


[28-Apr-19 03:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, not even your people could kill the Man of Steel


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Stalin ended the Holocaust and defeated the Nazis


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
The true chad.


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
All Nazis forever virgins.


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

I would. But Aaron McFuckFace won't shut up.


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Block him, then


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then ignore him and explain your point


[28-Apr-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
because you've said nothing but "no u" the whole time


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Don't compare yourself to superman.

Also, he had most of the Camp prisoners executed or imprisoned.


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
The only good German is the East German. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM

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Auferstanden Aus Ruinen - DDR Anthem English Translation
Auferstanden Aus Ruinen was the national anthem of the German Democratic Republic from 1949 until the German re-unification in 1990. I hope you enjoy and sub...
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[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
... stalin's name literally means "steel"


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Good. Nazis should die. Also Stalin was literally called The Man of Steel


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stalin is Superman confirmed.


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Honahue#0656
>Superman
>Man of Steel
>Stalin
man that American education really smoothed your brain


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[28-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
granted, I didn't learn that from US history


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk
They weren't Nazis, you heartless fuck. They were people the Nazis captured.


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
admittadly I didnt know about the man of steel thing


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
that was online


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Stalin still executing Nazis is a power move. Based comrade. Long live Stalin!


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

More like, go to hell Stalin. You evil bastard.


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Nazi's were trying to genocide slavs


[28-Apr-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
btw, I linked a few paragraphs from this last night, but this is a pretty good analysis of stalin https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f21f1578b0741fe3f24ada/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/171106_r30848.jpg


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Stalin lived out a full life and Hitler pussied out.


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
So pussy out, MB. Or we'll take you down the Mussolini exit, lmao


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

How would you like to join Stalin and Hitler?


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Easily triggered, just like every other Nazi.


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk
I'm not a Nazi.


[28-Apr-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
The only white safe space is in Hell, comrade


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

Fuck. Off. You. Filth.


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm here to stay! Just like the Man of Steel!


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you still havent explained your defense of the SS


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 again, just block him if you're feeling b o t h e r e d


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
^


[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB must like the abuse.

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[28-Apr-19 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's a hella sub


[28-Apr-19 03:33 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Do I need to explain it?

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

How?


[28-Apr-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes you do


[28-Apr-19 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 just right click on his profile and find the block option


[28-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@TheMultiBrony21 Long click name, click profile, menu, block. Or right click -> block


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Fine.

I have heard stories from forming camp prisoners that not all of the guards were heartless.


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
elaborate?


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
>No citations


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear, if you don't ignore him even after blocking (you can see the blocked messages by clicking them), i'm gonna be fucking sad


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I have heard from this vague source I am appealing to"


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Blocked.


[28-Apr-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're still a sub to me, son


[28-Apr-19 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Call me daddy


[28-Apr-19 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
now


[28-Apr-19 03:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

It's hard to elaborate do to the fact that the stories come from various sources and I don't know if any of them are reliable or not. And past lives don't count do to the fact very few people believe in them.


[28-Apr-19 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Believing literal spooks


[28-Apr-19 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
lmao what a nerd


[28-Apr-19 03:37 AM] Honahue#0656
>past lives


[28-Apr-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There were a lot of nazi impersonators who worked to rescue the jews, but they likely weren't part of the SS


[28-Apr-19 03:38 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

I was a SS in a past life. He walked in on a girl being... idk if this can be brought up or not but, raped by a soldier.

He threw said soldier into a acid tank that the soldier was supposed to throw the girl in.

He then gave the girl a doll and left.


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

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Holocaust denial


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here, start from this article


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

No one is denying the Holocaust.


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The concentration camps were strictly SS duty, iirc.


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes. I know.


[28-Apr-19 03:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not a Idiot.


[28-Apr-19 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They were installations in which the SS authorities could live out their wildest sadistic desires, so long as the prisoners were dead at the end.


[28-Apr-19 03:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Unfortunately, it's hard to know who were impersonators and who weren't.

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

That doesn't mean every SS did.


[28-Apr-19 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
>past lives
>not an idiot

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[28-Apr-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the impersonators are historically recorded actually


[28-Apr-19 03:41 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

Troll somewhere else. Like the memes and shitposts.


[28-Apr-19 03:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Damn smooth~~skins~~brains


[28-Apr-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 even if not all SS did participate in the holocaust, every SS authority would kill a Jew or any other persecuted minority if he had the chance to.


[28-Apr-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That was the very function of the SS.


[28-Apr-19 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
In a past life I was the man who shot Mussolini


[28-Apr-19 03:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

What about the ones that didn't kill the Jews?


[28-Apr-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were likely put on guard duty


[28-Apr-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They would have killed the Jews if they had the chance.


[28-Apr-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt kill doesnt mean wouldnt kill


[28-Apr-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You have to keep in mind that nazism is a **totalitarian** ideology.


[28-Apr-19 03:43 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Okay.

 @prism stryder(intexda)

Okay, what about the ones that wouldn't?


[28-Apr-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has to spread into every nook and cranny of public thinking to actually work.


[28-Apr-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were liekly weeded out and executed for weakness


[28-Apr-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
before selection even began


[28-Apr-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That leaves virtually no space for people to act compassionately while, at the same time, continuing to toe the state ideology.


[28-Apr-19 03:44 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Only if caught.


[28-Apr-19 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-house-celebrates-melania-trump-s-birthday-bizarre-photo-n999141

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White House celebrates first lady's birthday with bizarre photo
Mrs. Trump turned 49 on Friday.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2837456/trumpphoto_4fd8172adb11080169cd378a19405801.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Apr-19 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938
Meme reference


[28-Apr-19 03:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the west used former SS members to fill the ranks of the West German police force and deployed the same tactics to weed out unions and communists.


[28-Apr-19 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 here is another useful site for you to read through


[28-Apr-19 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/life-in-nazi-occupied-europe/controlling-everyday-life/the-nazis-consolidate-power/

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How did the Nazis consolidate power?


[28-Apr-19 03:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Why are you linking me to sites that tell me what I already know?


[28-Apr-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, it doesn't look like you "already know" what these sites say.


[28-Apr-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You haven't even read through these pages, i bet.


[28-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
btw, there's no such thing as an SS that wouldn't kill a jew if they knew that they were a jew, especially when the punishment for not killing that jew was their own death if they were ever discovered


[28-Apr-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those that werent discovered probably went on to have a very very bad life anyway


[28-Apr-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or suicided


[28-Apr-19 03:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

According to someone, some Jews actually served in the German Military in WW2.


[28-Apr-19 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How many?


[28-Apr-19 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do you have a source for that claim?


[28-Apr-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if jews did serve in the nazi military, they were hiding in plain sight to avoid execution


[28-Apr-19 03:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

If they denounced their religion and/or had some good knowledge of war, they were allowed to join.

The source was from some guy, I believe the one I blocked, who said that the Nazis allowed some Jews to live.


[28-Apr-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>if they denounced their religion


[28-Apr-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so thye were no longer jews then?


[28-Apr-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Problem is, that even then, the nazis wouldn't consider them as "converted aryans"


[28-Apr-19 03:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Well, only the ones that denounced their religion.


[28-Apr-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
According to nazi pseudoscientific ideology, Jewishness is a genetic, not religious, construct


[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
jews are an ethnic group as well


[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
you can't denounce your "jewishness"


[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

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Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים ISO 259-3 Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation [jehuˈdim]) or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group and a nation, originating from the Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel and Judah. Jewish ethnicity, nationhood, and religion are strongl...
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[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

That's because the Nazis were idiots.

If they had any brains, they would have sent their prisoners to fight against the Soviets as a human shield.


[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
do you realize what you just fucking said


[28-Apr-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thatls fucking dumb


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, they were idiots. Absolutely correct.


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So why are you still defending them?


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
this is like 4 levels of idiocy


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's like asking your enemy to please not join the soviets to save yourselves


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
in those 2 lines


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
alone


[28-Apr-19 03:52 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Yes.

It's actually a military tactic that worked in numerous battles throughout history.

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

I'm not defending the entire regime.


[28-Apr-19 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then what is your point even about?


[28-Apr-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye had tried to weild the jewish as a meat sheild army, they would have defected tot he soviets giveng thme bigger numbers


[28-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
it's never been very effective


[28-Apr-19 03:53 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

You realize how brutal the Soviets were, right? They would have just shot them.


[28-Apr-19 03:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeIy-MoKgQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeIy-MoKgQ
Nitsokhn Lid - Victory Song (Yiddish Anti-Fascist Song)
A Soviet Yiddish resistance song from the Great Patriotic War. Small note: a "Jewish bulgar" is a type of dance. Performer: Loyko, Alexander Sevastian, Psoy ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NpeIy-MoKgQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Apr-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Soviet Yiddish victory song


[28-Apr-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
For those that wanna repost for the make benefit of MB's awareness


[28-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
That's about the most smooth brained comment you've said so far and there's been some damn good competition


[28-Apr-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
And de-cucking


[28-Apr-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the soviets werent idiots, if the jewish were willing to defect they would have likely recruited the lot of them as new military soldiers


[28-Apr-19 03:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Tell that to the German soldiers who were willing to defect.

Most were killed on sight, others were captured.


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the germans were the enemies int hat war, not the jewish


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the Soviets liberated the camps


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Not sure if retarded or troll


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they executed german defectors to avoid spies


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] Pretty sure he's retarded


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Same


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I'm neither.


[28-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
But you never know


[28-Apr-19 03:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] This day has us graced with the smoothest fucking brain.


[28-Apr-19 03:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can see your reflection on it


[28-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Defend the claim that you are not a nazi


[28-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
_checks out_


[28-Apr-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the jewish woudl never be nazi spies because why would you give the enemy that wants to kill you any information willingly knowing full well they would kill you anyway after you give it to them?


[28-Apr-19 03:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I support homosexuals, Transgenders, bisexuals, crossdressers, Religion, basically I support a majority of the groups the Nazis hated, except Communism.

As for me, I have several physical and mental health issues and would have been killed by the Nazis.


[28-Apr-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Good defense


[28-Apr-19 03:59 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

That's the best kind of spy, though. The one you never expect.


[28-Apr-19 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yet you defend them


[28-Apr-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I have a black friend"


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

I have one too.


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LMAO


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I don't defend the regime.


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They're going to kill me ahyway might as well give tthem all the soviet intell i have so thye can execute me ont he spot!"


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
HEY


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB'S RESPONDING TO ME AGAIN


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
POST HOG


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HAHAHAHAHAHA


[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
POST HOG

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[28-Apr-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WHY BLOCK HIM THEN


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
POST HOG AND STOP DEFENDING "THE GOOD ONES"


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is so fucking cringeworthy, man


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

You can see blocked messages.


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
THERE WERE NONE


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
YOU FUCKING FASH


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
LMAO


[28-Apr-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The best spy is one you never expect, the oens who woudl be executed ont he spot if thye returned!"


[28-Apr-19 04:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

You did miss my point. I meant the Nazis would have been smarter not to actually kill them.


[28-Apr-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye didnt kill them, they shipped them back to the camps


[28-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
you realize that the nazis were severely behind on nuclear technology specifically because they chased out all the jewish scientists right


[28-Apr-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to them the only good jew was a dead jew


[28-Apr-19 04:03 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

Okay... You've missed my point entirely. I'm saying they should never have gone after the Jews at all.

  @Crow

Yes. I'm not a idiot, as I've said several times.


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you miss the point of nazis entirely


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

I'm saying their point was flawed.


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
And MB says he supports Democracy, but would apparently be fine with the least Democratic group if it were a little more ethical.


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Litrojia#0612
"a idiot"


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB is still a fascist.


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their entire existance was to wipe out the jews and establish an aryan utopia


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nazis had a good sense of style, that's about all I'll say on the matter.


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
For clothing


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Raptorshy

Agreed. Why do you think I dress up as Richtofen?


[28-Apr-19 04:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Litrojia

No, I'm not.


[28-Apr-19 04:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm not a idiot, I'm not a Nazi, and I'm not a Fascist. But  @AaronMk is.


[28-Apr-19 04:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man why can't MB support cool shit like Maoism. They got good fucking opera.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FSj7RuqGU

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[28-Apr-19 04:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> Doctor Edward Richtofen is a German scientist in the Zombies storyline and also a playable character in the Zombies game mode. His player indicator color in ...
Probably for this reason more than they have a nice outfit


[28-Apr-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wow the i am rubber, you are glue arguement


[28-Apr-19 04:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
The more MB talks, the more he confirms himself an Ur-Fascist.


[28-Apr-19 04:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
He has not said anything that unconfirms this.


[28-Apr-19 04:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Raptorshy

I was giving a description of his character.

 @AaronMk

Because Maoism is Communism and I don't support communism.


[28-Apr-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm rubber, you're glue, your mom gay, нет ты


[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No u.


[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
exactly


[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He doesn't support the Maoist project of National Salvation through peasant uprising.


[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Torr#5078
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[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I'm a Republican and supporter of freedom.


[28-Apr-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[28-Apr-19 04:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Torr

Wtf?

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[28-Apr-19 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 define "freedom".


[28-Apr-19 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What do you mean by "freedom"?


[28-Apr-19 04:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Freedom:

Not being opposed by a governing body.


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Freedom to whom? Because republicans tend to be very, very selective in regards to who gets freedom in their regime.


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Is murder a freedom

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[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Not all of us. Btw, that's a stereotype.

 @byte[]

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>not all of us


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I like the trans flag and the gay flag. Everything else is gay in the pejorative sense


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
But you said it's not being opposed by a governing body


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Republicans are dependant on their elected politicians.


[28-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
And my governing body opposes murder


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that isnt a stereotype, that is literally their current political ideaology


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is freedom having to surrender yourself mind and body to an employer which has all the rights to limit your movement, ideas, and speech freedom?


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
@Raptorshy нет ты


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And practically all but a handful of elected members of the GOP are hypocritical douchebags.


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Oppressed.
 
 @byte[]

Because murder is illegal.

 @prism stryder(intexda)

Wrong.


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you get it


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
The governing body defines what is legal


[28-Apr-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if republicans told you murder is no longer illegal?


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then is it right that someone can legally suppress my wages and declaring ownership of my labor ability?


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
So if the governing body opposes my intent to murder, that's against my "freedom" by your definition


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I wonder why some people on discord put a couple newlines between their mention and text but most don't :ponythinking:


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Meaning you probably need to change your definition


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
>MB probably hasn't heard about negative and positive freedoms.


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

There you go assuming all Republicans are evil.

 @byte[]

No. That's not what I'm saying.


[28-Apr-19 04:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
THIS IS PEAK LIMITED LIBERAL THOUGHT


[28-Apr-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Then what are you saying?


[28-Apr-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i;m asking what if murder was legal, would you still condem it? the onyl arguement you;ve given against murder is that it;s illegal


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I'm saying that oppression is bad, unless it's oppressing something that is morally wrong.

 @prism stryder(intexda)

I'd still condem it.


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
who gets to decide what is "morally wrong"?


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's a good thing everyone has the same opinion on what's morally wrong and right


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Otherwise we'd be fucked


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Morality is inherently subjective and in societies is generally de facto, not de jure


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

God.


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>God


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Celeatia.


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Primus.


[28-Apr-19 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not everyone follows your god


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did you just


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
For example, the Aztecs sacrificed (murdered) people for their god(s?)


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
They invaded neighboring tribes, stole their assets, and raped their women


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

There is a difference between sacrifice and murder.


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the US murdered more civilians in Afghanistan this past year than the Taliban.


[28-Apr-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
So is that all moral?


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
They were savages.


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
They were humans


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's probably gonna condemn the Aztecs because they were not European


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ninja'd


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

 @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Wrong. I condemn them for their savagry.


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@TheMultiBrony21 so was the British regime in colonized India.


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
there is not a single human on this planet which does not contain the potential for savagery


[28-Apr-19 04:15 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Yes.


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
See me around your mom :nut:


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
British India was a very fucked up place, arguably more so than the Aztec Empire


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
But it was moral to them


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Not my fault they were stupid.


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does this mean the British are a savage people?


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
That's not a defense


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB showing some western imperialism


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Anti-anglo gang assemble)


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
What a fucking clown


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nords did sacrifices as well, and they were amazingly well advanced for their time, they had a much better record of hygeine than europe at the time, and they had stronger communities isntead of god fearing villages


[28-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
the british isles used to be considered "savage" by the romans


[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Anglo women were attracted to Norse men because the Norse actually bathed and had changes of clothes.

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[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Anglo men never did this.


[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Look. What I am trying to say is that murder, by almost every good moral, is morally wrong.


[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stinky Anglos.


[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
But you defined that


[28-Apr-19 04:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No. I didn't.


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
What if I say that murdering people is okay, as long as god says you can murder that guy


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Is that okay


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
So it's your definition


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
You defined it


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
You say it's not okay


[28-Apr-19 04:18 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No it's not at all my definition.


[28-Apr-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Let's say that I say murdering is a-ok and moral by me (I don't, but for the sake of argument)


[28-Apr-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
People who stand in my way are opposing me and infringing on my "freedom"


[28-Apr-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
By your own definition


[28-Apr-19 04:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I'd say you belong in prison. And that no one is infringing on your freedom.


[28-Apr-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
How about something more nuanced


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Is it okay to murder pedophiles?


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>puts people in prison for their ideals
>isn't infringing on their freedom


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Yes.


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
But you just said it's not okay to murder people even if god tells you it is


[28-Apr-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
So what's the difference


[28-Apr-19 04:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

When you're doing something morally wrong, it's not infringing on your freedom to arrest you.

 @byte[]

..... In the case of pedophiles, it's not murder to kill them it's justice.


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MORALLY WRONG


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suck my toes


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
What if the person was wrongly convicted of being a pedophile


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
You murdered someone who didn't do anything


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

Suck my dick.

 @byte[]

That's different.


[28-Apr-19 04:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Make sure you have evidence that proves they're guilty.


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
you can't just say "haha oops my bad sorry for killing you" after killing someone


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're doing something morally wrong every time you masturbate


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So says the holly book


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB being a rewd boy to the mods


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GO TO PRISON


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

No I'm not.


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
How is he still here?


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Murder is morally wrong in more than just the bible.


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gays are morally wrong, the priests and GOP say so


[28-Apr-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PRISON


[28-Apr-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
It's my freedom to diddle kiddies and the government opposing me is infringing on that


[28-Apr-19 04:24 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

Stop trolling. That is not at a what I'm saying.


[28-Apr-19 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The mores of this channel say anyone using the light theme is morally wrong, PRISON


[28-Apr-19 04:25 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It's not freedom to molest/rape/creep/perv on children. You belong in prison if you do.


[28-Apr-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Deeper into the rabbit hole we go then


[28-Apr-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you think morality is objective


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
I bet MB hasn't even moral philosophy. Just a set of rules.


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
[Laughs in Kantian]


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@AaronMk

I have morals, unlike you.


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>literally a "no u" response


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Depends.


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
how is aaronmk immoral?


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
What an Ad Hom


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
So you don't think it's objective


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Okay


[28-Apr-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
What variances do you allow


[28-Apr-19 04:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

He literally said the Tsar's children deserved to be brutally murdered.


[28-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Zeb#3784
You say Morals, but who decides those morals?
You say God decides those morals, but which god?
Why does one god's morals outweigh another god's morals?


[28-Apr-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, I can't say anything in defense of that, even if they were ordering people murdered and murdering psychopaths themselves


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
no one deserves to die


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
It's complicated to define morals. But in numerous religions, Murder is definitely immoral.


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
[Continues to laugh in Kantian]


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
In numerous religions, homosexuality is immoral


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Response to that?


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] Zeb#3784
And the religions where it's encouraged?


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and in many others murder is justified as long as you have motives behind it


[28-Apr-19 04:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Religion is gay.

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[28-Apr-19 04:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Zeb

The ones that do are immoral.

 @PwnyPony

I'll tell god to strike you in the butt for that. If you wake up with a pain in the butt, you know who gave it to you.


[28-Apr-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
So what makes a religion immoral


[28-Apr-19 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is sad


[28-Apr-19 04:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
God is gay for my butt. Got it.


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] Zeb#3784
But what makes them immoral? The other religions? Why are those religions superior to the others?


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Since in your philosophical framework, religion defines morality


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
How does morality then apply to religion


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Look. It is a accepted fact that murder is immoral.


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if God orders you to do soemthing, but it goes agaisnt your morals personally, is it still a moral order?


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
It's actually not


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] Zeb#3784
^


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that an entire city was destroyed by God, one of the primary reasons for the destruction was homosexuality


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

That's a false story.


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, what about those soulless atheists? Are they but animals responding to external stimuli, cowed by the rules of the enlightened believers?


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Zeb#3784
@Crow Well, actually that's innacurate. But that's a completely separate discussion.


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is directly in the bible, how is it a false story?


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@prism stryder(intexda)

No it's not.


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
@TheMultiBrony21 you haven't even answered the question


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
How can a religion be immoral?


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God still turned some lady into a bunch of salt for no fucking reason at all


[28-Apr-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
If the religion is the source of morality, everything it condones must be moral, right?


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Atheist are just like you but mislead by the devil.


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
So how is that possible?


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_is about to get told how that was a terrible mistenterpretation_


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I've got multiple people talking to me at once.

 @Teaspoon

He had a reason, she looked back.


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Macarou#9574
Wow what a crime, she looked back


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] is MultiBrony PragerU gang


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

No.


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Phew


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] Zeb#3784
_tells @Teaspoon how it's a mis-interpretation. [...Well it kinda is. But again. Long separate discussion.]_


[28-Apr-19 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I know and I wish they wouldn't, I don't like it when everyone starts trolling


[28-Apr-19 04:33 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

There's major debate if there's more to it or not.


[28-Apr-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
But back to the question


[28-Apr-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
How can a religion be immoral?


[28-Apr-19 04:33 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
If it advocates murder, harm to others, rape, wrongful persecution, it's immoral.


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If it is the wrong religion.


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Christianity says that if your neighbor has an affair with your wife you should kill her


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
That's murder, right?


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

That's actually a metaphor.


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Christian religion advocate most of that.


[28-Apr-19 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
How are any of these rules moral?


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
If it's a metaphor, then why was it taken seriously?


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Especially when "they're all metaphor"


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Metaphor for what?


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Because it was created during a primitive time.


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
MB, you're showing your own failings


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But everyone knows that.


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're such a clown


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just let them speak


[28-Apr-19 04:35 AM] Zeb#3784
Well... It's not a metaphor... It's just not a part of Christian/God's law. It was a law made by some of the Religious leaders of the time. Nothing about it being a actual law for the religion.


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
So Christianity gets a pass because it was made during a primitive time


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
But the Aztecs don't


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Why not?


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Back then, it wasn't really questioned.

 @byte[]
...

The Aztecs get a pass.


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] Honahue#0656
It was written by the finger of God for Moses to instruct the 12 tribes how to behave


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] nice, i'm gonna worship Sobek now


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HAIL SOBEK


[28-Apr-19 04:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

Who's that?


[28-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Praise Sobek may he bless you with bountiful semen


[28-Apr-19 04:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I love how the Bible is supposed to be the word of God but also metaphorical leading to people nitpicking it and disregarding huge chunks while also taking pieces as law.


[28-Apr-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek

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Sobek (also called Sebek, Sochet, Sobk, and Sobki), in Greek, Suchos (Σοῦχος) and from Latin Suchus, was an ancient Egyptian deity with a complex and fluid nature. He is associated with the Nile crocodile or the West African crocodile and is represented either in its f...


[28-Apr-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
So the Aztecs were moral then?


[28-Apr-19 04:37 AM] Zeb#3784
@PwnyPony That's because people don't know how to read context. And then make sweeping grand claims that others don't fact check.


[28-Apr-19 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 04:38 AM] Honahue#0656
So much semen since I started worshipping Sobek

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[28-Apr-19 04:38 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@PwnyPony

For me, the confusing thing is that it contradicts itself.

One of the 10 Commandments is literally "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

 @byte[]

Only in the sense that they were primitive and didn't know any better.


[28-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
It was in Exodus and it was finger of God writing it for Moses


[28-Apr-19 04:39 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Honahue

Oof.


[28-Apr-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Were the Jews not primitive at one point


[28-Apr-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
I think the only religion with deities I'd worship would be the norse pantheon


[28-Apr-19 04:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
God: kill all these people. Also God: Thou shalt not kill.


[28-Apr-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the norse pantheon seemed pretty cool


[28-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Zeb#3784
@TheMultiBrony21 The Hebrew word used was for "Murder". Separate from the general "kill"


[28-Apr-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
I think I'd personally prefer something more spiritual though, like the celts or the native americans


[28-Apr-19 04:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

They were.

 @PwnyPony

Personally, I wonder if God really intended the confusion. Or, for that matter, why he didn't just write the book himself?


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
he did though


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Jews are still killing people today


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
through visions and dreams


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God: KILL ALL THE CANAANITES
*5 minutes later*
God: Thou Shalt Not Kill.
:shrugpony:


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Are they still primitive then?


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Do they not know any better?


[28-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin>


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Given how many times he's had to punish them, they never learn. It's not surprising some people think it was God who caused the Holocaust.


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
odin is my jam


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Yet they live in a modern time


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
>Odin is associated with wisdom, healing, death, royalty, the gallows, knowledge, war, battle, victory, sorcery, poetry, frenzy, and the runic alphabet


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
They even have cell phones and 21st century engineering


[28-Apr-19 04:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Yes.


[28-Apr-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
So they're definitively not primitive


[28-Apr-19 04:44 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No, but they're not very bright. Hell, the Bible says never use God's name in vain, yet Jews say GD more than Atheists. Explain that logic to me.


[28-Apr-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Probably Streisand-related


[28-Apr-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I contest the statement that Jews are not very bright


[28-Apr-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Have you heard of a man named Albert Einstein


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, what are these loops MB jumps through.


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
er, god's name is taken in vain by pretty much every country influenced by christianity


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
even hundreds of years ago


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm telling ya Sobek, who doesn't like bountiful nutt


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@God


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
You sound pretty anti-semite to me, MB. You sure you're not a closet fash?


[28-Apr-19 04:46 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

Yes. He was Jewish. I'm referring to the ones that never learn and continue to faulter.


[28-Apr-19 04:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Crow

Yes.


[28-Apr-19 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
A lotta Christian falter too


[28-Apr-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
My retarded cousin is raised by Christian parents but is probably too dumb to ever understand religion


[28-Apr-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
She never learns and continues to falter


[28-Apr-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
So...


[28-Apr-19 04:48 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ummm.... wat?


[28-Apr-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
You seem to be implying that there is a subclass of Jews who never learn and continue to falter


[28-Apr-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
When that is a human trait


[28-Apr-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a Jewish one


[28-Apr-19 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Why does it matter that they're Jewish


[28-Apr-19 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
That's kinda the point of Christianity, Jews and Muslims think it's totally possible for a human to keep covenant bit Christianity says it's impossible


[28-Apr-19 04:49 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It's a difficult discussion and I don't have a lot of answers.


[28-Apr-19 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Try your best


[28-Apr-19 04:51 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

I meant the entire discussion we've had. I mean, if I was able to communicate with Angels and Demons, I could probably ask them for their insight on the matter.

But I'm not judging the Jews alone for faltering.


[28-Apr-19 04:52 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Apr-19 04:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
[Is still laughing in Kantian]


[28-Apr-19 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was so left field it feels like it just materialized from the center


[28-Apr-19 04:53 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Teaspoon

Wat?


[28-Apr-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Back to where we were before the derailment


[28-Apr-19 04:54 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay.


[28-Apr-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
You say of religion `If it advocates murder, harm to others, rape, wrongful persecution, it's immoral`


[28-Apr-19 04:54 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[28-Apr-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you contest that this is your personal definition


[28-Apr-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
And is specific to you


[28-Apr-19 04:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No.


[28-Apr-19 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
So you agree that morality can be subjective


[28-Apr-19 04:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It depends on the circumstance.


[28-Apr-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Clarify


[28-Apr-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
In what situations would it not be subjective


[28-Apr-19 04:57 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
If you're raping someone, then that is 100% immoral.


[28-Apr-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
But if you're an Aztec and the person you're raping is a 9yo virgin from a neighboring tribe, then that's perfectly fine to you


[28-Apr-19 04:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
No it's not.


[28-Apr-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
But you think it's fine because your religion says it is


[28-Apr-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Put yourself in their shoes


[28-Apr-19 04:58 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Let me explain...


[28-Apr-19 05:01 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
There is a difference between Morality and pleasure.

Morality is what separates humans from animals.

Pleasure is a desire, a lust, that all creatures have.

There is a difference between using morals over pleasure. It is against my morals to rape and I think people that do should have their crotches removed.


[28-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Macarou#9574
Your morals, not theirs


[28-Apr-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
But that wasn't what was asked


[28-Apr-19 05:01 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

They weren't using morals.


[28-Apr-19 05:01 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh really?


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Say for the sake of argument that you are an Aztec. Forget Christianity.

As part of your religious system, it's okay to enslave and rape "inferior people," given specific constraints.


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] Macarou#9574
I think they were though.


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

They wouldn't have been raping people if they were using morals.


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Not only is it okay, it's _expected_


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] Macarou#9574
They weren't using your morals


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

That's against my personal morals.


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
But it would be very uncool if you killed your sister


[28-Apr-19 05:02 AM] Macarou#9574
Forget that your morals even exist MB


[28-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Macarou#9574
Think solely of the Aztec morality, not yours


[28-Apr-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
So clearly they had a code of ethics or "moral framework" so to speak


[28-Apr-19 05:03 AM] Macarou#9574
It was perfectly moral to them


[28-Apr-19 05:03 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou @Macarou

I can't abandon human morals. Aztecs had no morality.


[28-Apr-19 05:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
How are they human morals?


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
But the Aztecs wouldn't murder their own siblings


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Is that not a moral code?


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

That is.


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] Macarou#9574
I am not saying abandon morality, I am asking you to stop thinking about your morals in this regard, for the aztecs did not believe them


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
So clearly they had morals


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] Macarou#9574
But they had their own morals


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Yet you just said they didn't


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Contradiction


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] Zeb#3784
"That's against my personal morals."
So you're saying what an individual considers moral superceeds what that person's culture says is moral.


[28-Apr-19 05:04 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

I'm not.

 @byte[]

Okay, they had some morals, just not a lot.


[28-Apr-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
So then my question again


[28-Apr-19 05:05 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Zeb

I'm not saying that at all.


[28-Apr-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Is morality subjective?


[28-Apr-19 05:05 AM] Macarou#9574
No, they had their own morality system, you just don't think that, because their not yours


[28-Apr-19 05:05 AM] Zeb#3784
Then why would it matter if it's "against my personal morals."


[28-Apr-19 05:06 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

If they had good morals, raping people would not have been.

  @byte[]

In some cases, yes. But Rape is not morally right. No matter what. Anyone who says otherwise should be either shot or imprisoned.


[28-Apr-19 05:06 AM] Macarou#9574
If they had good morals, by your standards


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] Macarou#9574
Stop using your standards, they are not universal


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

No, by human standards.


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] Macarou#9574
No, there are no universal human standards


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

Yes there are.


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
You just said that the Aztecs were moral beings, even though they raped other humans


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] Macarou#9574
No


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
So that's a contradiction with your own definition


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] Zeb#3784
Which humans? Why are some human morals supperior to others?


[28-Apr-19 05:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I know MB probably won't care, but for the sake of academic accuracy I feel I should post this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_philosophy#Moral_beliefs_and_aesthetics

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Aztec philosophy was a school of philosophy that developed out of Aztec culture. The Aztecs had a well-developed school of philosophy, perhaps the most developed in the Americas and in many ways comparable to Ancient Greek philosophy, even amassing more texts than the  ancien...
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[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

Yes there are.

 @Zeb
Because hurting people for Joy is wrong.


[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Zeb#3784
OOoo neat~


[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Zeb#3784
According to who?


[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Macarou#9574
No, there are not Multi Brony


[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] Zeb#3784
And why is their view on it the correct one?


[28-Apr-19 05:08 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

Shut up.

 @Zeb

According to psychologists and numerous rules.


[28-Apr-19 05:09 AM] Zeb#3784
Why are the psychologists and rules that say otherwise wrong?


[28-Apr-19 05:09 AM] Macarou#9574
No, because I don't believe you, because nothing in the world says universal morals exist


[28-Apr-19 05:09 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Zeb

Wat?

 @Macarou

Yes, there are.


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Macarou#9574
Then show me, show me that there is even one thing, that all seven billion people agree on morally


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

Seven billion people can't agree on everything.


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Macarou#9574
Then they are not universal


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Then how can there be universal morality?


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Macarou#9574
So there are no human standards


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
That's just not possible


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.iep.utm.edu/aztec/


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Macarou#9574
Well done, you disproved yourself


[28-Apr-19 05:10 AM] Zeb#3784
You said psychologists and rules dictate which morals are correct over others. I'm asking you why the psychologists and rules that disagree with them are wrong.


[28-Apr-19 05:11 AM] Zeb#3784
What makes those specific psychologists and rules correct?


[28-Apr-19 05:11 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

There are human standards, just not everyone follows them.


[28-Apr-19 05:11 AM] Macarou#9574
And for that matter, which psychologists, and what rules? So if not everyone follows them, what makes them human?


[28-Apr-19 05:12 AM] Macarou#9574
That a human though of them?


[28-Apr-19 05:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Well I thought of a moral, don't make it universal


[28-Apr-19 05:12 AM] Macarou#9574
Jesus thought of morals, his aren't universal either


[28-Apr-19 05:12 AM] Macarou#9574
So did Mahomet, and Confucius, not universal


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Zeb

I'm confused.

 @Macarou

Because a large number of people agree that they are human morals.


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
A large number isn't everyone


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
You need everyone to agree for it to be human


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Macarou#9574
But not everyone does, meaning that they are followed by only some groups


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It doesn't have to be everyone.


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Macarou#9574
Then what makes it human!


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] Zeb#3784
Majority doesn't dictate correctness


[28-Apr-19 05:13 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

Because it just is!


[28-Apr-19 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
I feel there is a much easier way to go about this defining of morality and its consequences. But the clown of the game is MB right now.


[28-Apr-19 05:14 AM] Macarou#9574
If not everyone agrees, then it is only a cultural belief of some people, not inherent to human nature!


[28-Apr-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Universal quantifiers are finnicky and you are advised to avoid them and focus on specifics


[28-Apr-19 05:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMcMIuN_XQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMcMIuN_XQ
The One True Moral Compass
Don't confuse belief in objectivity with being objective, a mistake I constantly see arrogant theists make when they juxtapose the virtues of their God-given...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CaMcMIuN_XQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Apr-19 05:14 AM] Macarou#9574
Thus, not a human standard


[28-Apr-19 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Maybe I should go ground up lol


[28-Apr-19 05:15 AM] Macarou#9574
And I'm sure the Christians were when they  first started


[28-Apr-19 05:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno MB. I'm reading some Aztec philosophy - or at least an encyclopedic description - and it seems pretty chill.


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Any group that says rape is okay is immoral.


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
(to you)


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Macarou#9574
By your standards


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No.

 @Macarou

No.


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] Macarou#9574
Yes


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

No.


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean you literally said it yourself that this isn't true


[28-Apr-19 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's worth pointing out that I think the use of Aztecs in the example was pure literary usage, metaphor. And not a strict case from truth. Though given: rapes in war happen in the west too, so we're not free.


[28-Apr-19 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Need I remind you with a screengrab


[28-Apr-19 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even our own soldiers have raped in Iraq and suffer little to no consequences.


[28-Apr-19 05:17 AM] Macarou#9574
You don't like rape, doesn't mean some cultures did not agree that rape was good to perform.


[28-Apr-19 05:17 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@Macarou

If a large group of people agree it's morally wrong, it's morally wrong.


[28-Apr-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
A large group of people agree that homosexuality is morally wrong


[28-Apr-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Does that make it wrong


[28-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Macarou#9574
What if a majority of people agree science and knowledge are evil?


[28-Apr-19 05:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
During WW2 some brits raped and some commander basically said they had it comming.


[28-Apr-19 05:18 AM] Macarou#9574
Do you just accept, and embrace ignorance?


[28-Apr-19 05:19 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@PwnyPony

Those bastards should have been killed.


[28-Apr-19 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
That's against your moral framework


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure that matters here though


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Macarou#9574
How enlightened of you MB


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Nahua ethics had a this-worldly rather than other-worldly orientation. Its foundation and justification rested in human nature, the nature of life on earth, and ultimately the nature of the teotl -- not in the commandments of some remote deity. The Nahuas' search for the correct codes of conduct was not motivated by a desire for reward in an afterlife, nor did it presuppose the possibility of determining one's destiny after death. There was no talk of punishment or reward in an afterlife for the kind of life one led on earth."


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I meant the rapists should have been killed.


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
A large group of people agree that homosexuality is morally wrong


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Does that make it wrong?


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Macarou#9574
A Large group agree science and knowledge are morally wrong


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

No it doesn't.


[28-Apr-19 05:20 AM] Macarou#9574
Is it wrong?


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
But you said if a majority agree, it is wrong.


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
So what is it then?


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
Do you even have rules?


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
That isn't what I meant.


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
Or morals?


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
This is your definition of wrongness: `If a large group of people agree it's morally wrong, it's morally wrong.`


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Would you like to change it?


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
You misinterpreted it.


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I interpreted it as written


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
How? It's pretty clear english mate


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is some Jordan B. Peterson shit


[28-Apr-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
"That's not what I meant!"


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Macarou#9574
That is the clearest english I have ever seen


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Then what did you mean?"


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
<Dodges the question>


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
But I shall change it to be more understanding.


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Macarou#9574
No, don't


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
It's important to be concise in definitions without sacrificing precision


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] Macarou#9574
I think it's pretty easy to understand already


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
And really you are not good at thinking of corner cases which might break your definition


[28-Apr-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
So I'm just probing the boundaries of them


[28-Apr-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
seeing what breaks


[28-Apr-19 05:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay, morality can be subjective.


[28-Apr-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Defend this claim


[28-Apr-19 05:23 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
...


[28-Apr-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Show me that you mean it and you're not just saying it to get me to back off


[28-Apr-19 05:25 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Can't you just accept my answer without having me explain it? I hated that in school.

It just works.


[28-Apr-19 05:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/44ilZq3R900?t=4

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[28-Apr-19 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm asking you to defend your position because I want to help you properly develop your position


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't do that if you don't think about it


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
And give evidence for it


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] Macarou#9574
Nothing just works, there is always a reason, a mechanism, that makes things work.


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

It just works. That is all I've got.


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Go read Kant


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Ok Todd.


[28-Apr-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
@TheMultiBrony21 Or at least this nifty article on Aztec morality. https://www.iep.utm.edu/aztec/#H6


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I can tell you that modern cryptography just works, but that's ignoring the massive amount of proofs that underly it


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's pretty indepth


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I can tell you that the Gringard reagents just work but the evidence is in the mechanisms


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
"It just works" doesn't explain why


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

You're asking me to defend something that I don't have a defense for.


[28-Apr-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
But you should, given that you claimed it!


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you don't have a defense for it, it's not yours.


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're just ceding the discussion to get it over.


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not developing anything


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I sense that you understand that if you say morality is not always objective then it leads to nasty contradictions


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

In case you don't know, I'm not the best at defenses at all.


[28-Apr-19 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
My goal is to get you to understand what those are coming from


[28-Apr-19 05:29 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
I do understand.


[28-Apr-19 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
They're corner cases that you need to address when you make statements about _all_ things which satisfy a condition


[28-Apr-19 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Most moral systems agree in general: rape is bad and murder is bad


[28-Apr-19 05:30 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes.


[28-Apr-19 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Where that gets more nuanced is in who is the target of those actions


[28-Apr-19 05:31 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
???


[28-Apr-19 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Murdering homosexuals would be a more popular opinion in, say, the Middle East than in North America


[28-Apr-19 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
That's a corner case and you didn't consider it when you said that murder is always immoral


[28-Apr-19 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
The predominant moral system there says that women are more or less property, too


[28-Apr-19 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I suspect you would say that's not okay


[28-Apr-19 05:33 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
@byte[]

You suspect right.


[28-Apr-19 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Have you ever taken a course in symbolic logic? (my guess is no)


[28-Apr-19 05:34 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
What's that?


[28-Apr-19 05:34 AM] Macarou#9574
I have not taken such courses, I am curious though.


[28-Apr-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Symbolic logic is a formal way to express statements about items and classes of items


[28-Apr-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
A proposition is a claim that can be true or false


[28-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
If P then P


[28-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Either P or not P


[28-Apr-19 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Not both P and not P


[28-Apr-19 05:35 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay.


[28-Apr-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Like "the sky is blue" is true and "water is made from sodium" is false


[28-Apr-19 05:36 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Yes


[28-Apr-19 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
One of the most important operations in symbolic logic is the conditional


[28-Apr-19 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
if P then Q


[28-Apr-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
when the antecedent P is true, then Q MUST also be true


[28-Apr-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
however if the antecedent P is false then the statement is true


[28-Apr-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
This leads to weird statements like "if the sky is purple then the sun is a human"


[28-Apr-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is true


[28-Apr-19 05:38 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
What does this have to do with the subject of morals?


[28-Apr-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a tangent on the subject of corner cases


[28-Apr-19 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm getting to the point, I just need to lay out some definitions first


[28-Apr-19 05:40 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Reason I ask is because I have to go to bed in about 20 minutes.


[28-Apr-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Just go then, I think there's been enough for the night


[28-Apr-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Think about the truth value of this statement: "if earth is flat, then bush did 9/11"


[28-Apr-19 05:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Everything about that statement is false.


[28-Apr-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Yet the statement itself is true


[28-Apr-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
That's the weirdness of symbolic logic


[28-Apr-19 05:42 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay. 

So it's like sarcasm.


[28-Apr-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Nope.


[28-Apr-19 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder it took until Bertrand Russell to prove that true premises can lead to an untrue conclusion. Or something.


[28-Apr-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
The statement is true because the antecedent is false


[28-Apr-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
This statement is false: "if it is raining today, then bush did 9/11"


[28-Apr-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
because it was raining today (at least here), but bush did not do 9/11


[28-Apr-19 05:45 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Ah. Okay. That's actually why I said it's like sarcasm.

"If that was Optimus Prime, then I'm Twilight Sparkle."


[28-Apr-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Clever connection


[28-Apr-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
One more thing: if a conditional statement is true, then its contrapositive must be true


[28-Apr-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
"if P then Q" means the same thing as "if not Q then not P"


[28-Apr-19 05:47 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Kind of reminds me of a cartoon episode.


[28-Apr-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Convince yourself of this by example, e.g. "If it is raining outside, I will not go for a walk" <--> "If I went for a walk, it is not raining outside"


[28-Apr-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
(where <--> means the statements are equal)


[28-Apr-19 05:48 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay. I got it.


[28-Apr-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
This also applies to false premises: "if earth is flat, then bush did 9/11" <--> "if bush did not do 9/11, then the earth is not flat" (both true)


[28-Apr-19 05:50 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Okay. Let me try:

"If that was Optimus Prime, then I'm Twilight Sparkle." <--> "If I'm not Twilight Sparkle, then that wasn't Optimus Prime."


[28-Apr-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[28-Apr-19 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAvcGcEc0k

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Argument
One of my favourite sketches from the original TV series of Monty Python's Flying Circus
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[28-Apr-19 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Relevant


[28-Apr-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll get to quantification later


[28-Apr-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Each card has a number on one side, and a patch of color on the other. Which card or cards must be turned over to test the idea that `if a card shows an even number on one face, then its opposite face is red`?

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[28-Apr-19 05:53 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
The 8 and the red.


[28-Apr-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
think about it more carefully


[28-Apr-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
`if a card shows an even number on one face` there is only one of those here, the 8, and that's right


[28-Apr-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
but what about the contrapositive?


[28-Apr-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
state the contrapositive


[28-Apr-19 05:55 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
Then its opposite face is red.


[28-Apr-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
if P then Q


[28-Apr-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
if not Q then not P


[28-Apr-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
what's "not Q"?


[28-Apr-19 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
that's a modus tollens syllogism


[28-Apr-19 05:56 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
If a card isn't red on one face, then it's opposite face isn't a even number.


[28-Apr-19 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[28-Apr-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
So which other card do you need to turn over?


[28-Apr-19 05:57 AM] TheMultiBrony21#7713
The orange.


[28-Apr-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Correct


[28-Apr-19 06:50 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFGHE1xQFhhzd5XPT8USqMpKMTkTNjQ9I :shrugpony:

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Symbolic Logic - YouTube
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[28-Apr-19 07:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://torontosun.com/news/world/new-york-anti-vaxxers-holding-measles-parties-as-virus-spreads

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New York anti-vaxxers holding ‘measles parties’ as virus spreads
Twisted anti-vaxxer parents are holding “measles parties” so their children catch the frequently fatal virus instead of being vaccinated.Health officials in New York are concerned &mdas…
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[28-Apr-19 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should be per se child abuse


[28-Apr-19 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your decisions regarding your child's health in terms of spreading communicable disease is not really your decision


[28-Apr-19 11:02 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Welp. Just another reason to be happy we don't live in fucking New York


[28-Apr-19 11:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
[Will be in New York in a few months]


[28-Apr-19 11:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's gucchi though, I'm vaccinated.


[28-Apr-19 11:03 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
That absolutely sucks


[28-Apr-19 11:03 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Houston is the surperior city my negros


[28-Apr-19 11:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll get to laugh at kids' parents behind their backs when an outbreak comes through.


[28-Apr-19 11:04 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I'd laugh in front of them


[28-Apr-19 11:04 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
They're the type to be oblivious to you laughing behind them


[28-Apr-19 11:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well I'd get fired if I do that. So I can't.


[28-Apr-19 11:04 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
What job do you roll with?


[28-Apr-19 11:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Going out there in late January as a waterfront counselor for the Boy Scouts. A friend of mine was talking about the openings they had so I decided to bite.


[28-Apr-19 11:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Got the job. Got paperwork to finish filling out though and mail ahead; shit like order forms for the uniform, get a physical, and other boring shit.


[28-Apr-19 11:06 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
What's the pay like


[28-Apr-19 11:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not as good as where I'm working now, which is pretty "meh". But I'm hoping that when I add it to my resume it'll look better than a decade worth of retail horse shit.


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
I get training for life guard and CPR stuff there, and living accomodations are free on-site.


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
You worked with horses?


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I get to have a bit of a paid vacation.


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
No.


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Wait shit my bad


[28-Apr-19 11:08 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
That's nice.


[28-Apr-19 11:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though I can there. But I didn't apply for that since my experience with horses is scant. I've shot more guns than did equestrian.


[28-Apr-19 11:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways as I said in general I got a book to read and then sleep


[28-Apr-19 11:09 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Good night


[28-Apr-19 12:13 PM] Pretty#9306
Today are the elections in my country, we elect the whole of both chambers


[28-Apr-19 12:15 PM] Pretty#9306
And all the parties are damn terrible, all of them have such idiotic and disastrous propositions, it's sad


[28-Apr-19 12:18 PM] Pretty#9306
Do I want to vote to the idiots that will screw my country or to the idiots that will take away my rights? I don't know


[28-Apr-19 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
you should probably vote for the ones that will screw your country, at least you'll be free to move if everything goes to shit


[28-Apr-19 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/mseek5f7ujgz.png

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[28-Apr-19 02:03 PM] Pretty#9306
even the ones who will screw the country want to take some rights aways, I think I'll just vote blank, I'm tired of this


[28-Apr-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
well, it sounds like you're either voting for people who will either make the country shit to live in or voting for people who will practically enslave you, so at least vote for the one which gives you more options


[28-Apr-19 02:08 PM] Pretty#9306
it's more complex than that


[28-Apr-19 02:08 PM] Pretty#9306
there is also the thing of what party supports what other party, so voting for this party is like voting for the others that are pure garbage


[28-Apr-19 02:30 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
The classic bait comic


[28-Apr-19 02:31 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Duped again by the man-ray-Jew


[28-Apr-19 02:31 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
@Pretty just start hoarding guns and stuff like pre-port arthur


[28-Apr-19 02:32 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Tsk tsk. Tasmania get ducked


[28-Apr-19 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri-lanka-blasts-bomber/father-two-brothers-of-sri-lanka-suicide-bombings-mastermind-killed-in-gun-battle-idUSKCN1S405L

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Father, two brothers of Sri Lanka suicide bombings mastermind...
The father and two brothers of the suspected mastermind of Sri Lanka's East...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190428&t=2&i=1381546271&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF3R07O


[28-Apr-19 02:59 PM] Macarou#9574
https://www.jpost.com/International/No-future-for-Jews-in-Germany-says-German-Jewish-teenager-588016

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'No future for Jews in Germany,' says German Jewish teenager
German Jews explain why they are relocating to Israel.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/429417


[28-Apr-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/25/protester-glues-breasts-ground-outside-goldman-sachs-9318678/?ito=article.desktop.share.top.facebook\

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Protester glues her breasts to ground outside Goldman Sachs
She was surrounded by police officers who put up screens to stop the public watching.
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[28-Apr-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
that first one sounds like an opinion piece using emotional language to make it seem like germany's a really shitty place to live for jewish people, even though cursory google searches show that many jews are actually moving to germany to escape eastern european countries like poland


[28-Apr-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
germany probably has one of the most open policies about immigrants in europe


[28-Apr-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d5d90ab1596f478c8f20d4dbe3f73979

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Oliver North out as NRA president after leadership dispute
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Oliver North announced Saturday that he would not serve a second term as National Rifle Association president, making it clear he had been forced out by the gun lobby's...
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[28-Apr-19 03:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
b-but I thought he was an american hero? There was a song about it and everything!


[28-Apr-19 03:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo

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[28-Apr-19 03:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oof, the way that meeting ended, though


[28-Apr-19 03:28 PM] Pretty#9306
I voted blank


[28-Apr-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck with your ultimatum election


[28-Apr-19 03:30 PM] Crow#5457
what country?


[28-Apr-19 03:39 PM] Pretty#9306
Spain


[28-Apr-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48081540

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The performance of a new far-right party will be closely watched in Spain's third election in four years.
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[28-Apr-19 03:41 PM] Pretty#9306
5 idiots


[28-Apr-19 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between the PSOE and podemos?


[28-Apr-19 03:48 PM] Pretty#9306
PSOE is center-left, podemos is left


[28-Apr-19 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
I'm seeing the opposite


[28-Apr-19 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
unless podemos is actually socialist, PSOE is called the "socialist" party, but they're social democrats


[28-Apr-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, podemos seems to be democratic socialist


[28-Apr-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
PSOE is social democrat


[28-Apr-19 03:50 PM] Pretty#9306
Yeah, ignore the name, PSOE was born as a socialist-comunist party more than 100 years ago, but today they are nothing like that


[28-Apr-19 03:53 PM] Pretty#9306
They have "socialist" in their name so people call them the socialists, but they're not


[28-Apr-19 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
then there's ciudadanos (which seem like neoliberals) and the US equivalent of the democratic party, and the PP which seems like the US equivalent of the republican party


[28-Apr-19 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
and then there's vox, which seems like fascists


[28-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
apparently ciudadanos isn't actually neoliberal, they're just socially center-right


[28-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
but vox is neoliberal on top of ultranationalist


[28-Apr-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
it's like the worst parts of US politics wrapped up into one fascist package


[28-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
apparently PP and vox both hate abortion


[28-Apr-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
man, it must be nice to have more than two choices at least


[28-Apr-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
if you think spain is bad, you should look at US politics lol


[28-Apr-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
you can't even hold special elections and referendums to recall shitty national politicians in most cases, let alone the entire government


[28-Apr-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
@Pretty, what's wrong with PSOE, podemos, and ciudadanos?


[28-Apr-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
there has to be a reason that these 3 choices are bad beyond just looking at pure politics


[28-Apr-19 04:01 PM] Pretty#9306
Wait I'm having lunch


[28-Apr-19 04:24 PM] Pretty#9306
Problems with both PSOE and podemos are for example  that they both want to increase the public expenses even when the Spanish institutions have been in deficit for years and we have to confront our big public debt but they don't say how they will pay for this, just cliche things like "we will make the rich pay for it", they are also extremely strong supporters of the intersectionality movement and they want to create laws aimed at minorities and " discriminated groups" (actually they already created some where you get less prison years if you are part of the discriminated group) which is pure and blatant discrimination from a legal perspective, they also want to allow more immigration when Spain already has a very high unemployment rate which is a bad idea, they also want to close nuclear plants that are in good state which I find stupid


[28-Apr-19 04:35 PM] Pretty#9306
Ciudadanos propositions are more logical and realistic but they said there is no way they will support a PSOE government (in Spain the government needs to be elected by the votes of the Congress) instead they say they will only support a PP and VOX government which I find terrible because they are right parties and there's no way I'm gonna support that (things like making abortion illegal are scary). The reason ciudadanos doesn't support psoe is because psoe is negotiating with Catalonia nationalist parties and ciudadanos is absolutely against Catalonia separatism


[28-Apr-19 04:37 PM] Pretty#9306
The parties are like this
Podemos: left
PSOE: left-center
Ciudadanos: center but pacts with the right
PP: right
VOX: far right-catholic democracy


[28-Apr-19 04:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
>illegal abortions
Oof yeah fuck that


[28-Apr-19 04:46 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Podemos aye what a lazy name


[28-Apr-19 04:49 PM] Pretty#9306
And btw they are not called Podemos ("we can!") anymore, now they are called "Unidas Podemos" which means "we, the women, can do it!" Because they say they want to represent the women because they are discriminated, see what I mean? It's so stupid


[28-Apr-19 04:50 PM] Pretty#9306
And the PSOE is just the same on that regard


[28-Apr-19 04:59 PM] Pretty#9306
So in reality you choose between:
-the left, which is gonna damage the economy, create discriminatory laws and rise unemployment rate
-The right, will take rights away, fill the institutions with corruption and worsen the public services


[28-Apr-19 05:00 PM] Pretty#9306
So I said screw it I don't want to be responsible for any of this


[28-Apr-19 05:00 PM] illumnious#7938
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[28-Apr-19 05:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Is this hell


[28-Apr-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
very possibly


[28-Apr-19 05:05 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/carpedonktum/status/1122353456113684480?s=21 I loose my shit

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[28-Apr-19 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Hell with Satin https://www.pscp.tv/w/b5W5_TFwempNQmtBeXFhRWR8MW5BSkV6TmRQTWF4TDz2ht2qWNe0yiCtpcvH2xZHWOZHCZqYa27eXOo2p25j?t=1m22s

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[28-Apr-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c7366a3c08034aa187ac5860125525dc

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Cuts are coming. Can Pelosi and McConnell make a deal?
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and top Senate Republican Mitch McConnell, Washington's odd couple, have a limited set of mutual legislative interests in a capital beset by...
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[28-Apr-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t think the old married couple will coem up with any solid deals, but we can hope if they do, it;s not a fuck over plan


[28-Apr-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/441032-graham-i-dont-care-if-trump-told-mcgahn-to-fire-mueller

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Graham: 'I don't care' if Trump told McGahn to fire Mueller
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said Sunday that he doesn't care if President Trump told former White House counsel Don McGahn to fire special counsel Robert Mueller.
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[28-Apr-19 07:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Wew


[28-Apr-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you tell someone to commit murder and they refuse to do it you're still soliciting murder


[28-Apr-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently this guy is yesterda's synagogue shooter

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[28-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
democrats in a nutshell


[28-Apr-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
fucking idiots make regulations for literally everything except what everyone's actually complaining about


[28-Apr-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
($2700 a month btw)


[28-Apr-19 07:21 PM] Honahue#0656
I read his manifesto, bunch of typical "Jewry" crap and securing the future for white babies


[28-Apr-19 07:21 PM] Honahue#0656
How does one get radicalized at 19


[28-Apr-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if what that poster says is true, his brain was pretty much put into an academic meat grinder and i;m sure somewhere in there he learned this bullshit


[28-Apr-19 07:23 PM] Honahue#0656
He talked about Christianity a lot too apparently home schooled,


[28-Apr-19 07:24 PM] Honahue#0656
Ban religion, especially the Abrahamic ones they're all trash


[28-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like anti-muslim talk, you committing a hate crime here?


[28-Apr-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
gonna have to report you to the EFF BEE EYE


[28-Apr-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but this is a case for the SEA EYE EH


[28-Apr-19 07:26 PM] Honahue#0656
Glow in the dark


[28-Apr-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-blasts-asylum-lawyers-as-wise-guys-who-sign-people-up-to-blame-border-patrol-every-time-they-get-a-cold/

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Trump Blasts Asylum Lawyers as ‘Wise Guys’ Who ‘Sign People ...
"We go out and we stop the separation. The problem is you have ten times more people coming up with their families, it's like Disneyland now."
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[28-Apr-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“The problem is with these laws, we should be able to take them right out. We can’t. We have to bring them into a court. Who ever heard of that?”


[28-Apr-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, so you want no immigration laws then


[28-Apr-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How are you supposed to make illegal entry a crime if you don't prosecute those who do it


[28-Apr-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the dumbed down version of a james bond villain


[28-Apr-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which soudns hilarious but is actually really bad in reality


[28-Apr-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically doesnt want a court system at all, he wants to be able to order his trump brand police force to preform an action and they do it with no legal reprecussions


[28-Apr-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so yeah dictatorship


[28-Apr-19 08:17 PM] Mikey#7286
Now I'm imagining a version of James Bond where Trump is attempting to kill him with the laser instead of goldfinger


[28-Apr-19 08:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump is just defending America from invading British forces. 007


[28-Apr-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So I found out recently


[28-Apr-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In addition to not allowing a bet of $69, you cannot bet $1488 on Jeopardy


[28-Apr-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And they had to make that a rule


[28-Apr-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this a new rule because of the new streak wonder?


[28-Apr-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No it's an older rule because the last streak he'd always bet $69 on Final Jeopardy because he couldn't be caught


[28-Apr-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And they really didn't want that again


[28-Apr-19 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[28-Apr-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna bet $420 then


[28-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unclear if that's banned


[28-Apr-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God I hate electoral systems


[28-Apr-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A coalition of three parties can have 65% of the vote, but lose because a coalition of two parties winning 35% of the votes gets more votes each, thus more representatives


[28-Apr-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sane electoral systems require the way votes are distributed to matter very little...but people get very regional and very partisan etc.


[28-Apr-19 11:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
not sure about you all but I for one look forward to the 2020 elections no matter the outcome.


[28-Apr-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will certainly be interesting to watch


[28-Apr-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait for the Dems to find the most unlikable candidate possible


[28-Apr-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the conservative democrat party! we want you to knwo we have your* best interests in mind!


[28-Apr-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*the rich people financing us


[28-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Candidates shouldn't be people you want to have a beer with


[28-Apr-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really shouldnt


[28-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You want them to be smart


[28-Apr-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also for fucks sake, stop electing golf players


[28-Apr-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is golfing such a presidential thing?


[28-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rich people like it


[28-Apr-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think Obama did that much, just a little bit


[28-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget what his hobbies were


[28-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamer president when


[28-Apr-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rise up


[28-Apr-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rich people are weirdos


[28-Apr-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
gamers won't be able to rise up until there's a smash ultimate tournament hosted in the white house


[29-Apr-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hello peasants, I hope you don;t mind but we're taking all your food and making it rich people stuff now"


[29-Apr-19 12:23 AM] Pretty#9306
results of Spanish elections. The left (PSOE+Podemos) won because they can get the majority of the congress with the votes of catalonian nationalists

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[29-Apr-19 12:24 AM] Pretty#9306
Reminder:


[29-Apr-19 12:24 AM] Pretty#9306
UP (Podemos): left
PSOE: left-center
CS (Ciudadanos): center but pacts with the right
PP: right
VOX: far right-catholic democracy


[29-Apr-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UP is far left


[29-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Pretty#9306
far left would be the comunists parties, on this elections we had two


[29-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UP ate up a lot of communist parties, nevermind IU


[29-Apr-19 12:30 AM] Pretty#9306
btw there was a participation of 75,75% of voters


[29-Apr-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Half the people I went to uni with were commies and they're all in podemos


[29-Apr-19 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
sounds like communist propaganda but okay


[29-Apr-19 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Podemos is the "voto util" for the commies, the actual communist parties are a joke


[29-Apr-19 12:32 AM] Pretty#9306
because there is no way comunist parties are getting to congress since no ones votes for them and podemos is the closest party with chances of getting to congress, UP also "ate" IU which was somewhat close to comunist parties (but IU is not comunist) so IU voters have no other option


[29-Apr-19 12:35 AM] Pretty#9306
if we add the votes of PCPE and PCTE comunist parties in this elections they got 0.08% of the votes


[29-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly I doubt PP or C will just give Sanchez the votes to get the presidency and we'll instead see him forced to prostrate himself to ERC again


[29-Apr-19 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ain't politics grand


[29-Apr-19 12:37 AM] Pretty#9306
we are again depending of nationalists parties who are gonna think solely about their people, great


[29-Apr-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nationalism in Spain?


[29-Apr-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What could go wrong?


[29-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_muffled Guernica noises in the distance_


[29-Apr-19 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are completely different things


[29-Apr-19 12:41 AM] Pretty#9306
its actually unfair because the voting system makes nationalists parties get a lot more congressmen than they should have because their votes are very focused on just one region while national parties have it a lot more difficult


[29-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Pretty#9306
for example the cantabrian nationalist party got 1 congressman with 50.000 votes while PACMA got 0 congressman with 324.000 votes, its absolutely unfair


[29-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, general elections should just be the country's popular vote


[29-Apr-19 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Note this "representative" bullshit


[29-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Pretty#9306
or each vote for ERC counts x2 more than VOX votes


[29-Apr-19 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly no party will ever change the system


[29-Apr-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because if they're in a position to change it, it means it benefited them


[29-Apr-19 12:45 AM] Pretty#9306
yeah, I dont think any party but PACMA proposed to change the vote system to a single district for the whole country


[29-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Pretty#9306
btw I dont understand what Guernica has to do with this either lol


[29-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Its is american, typical yank ignorance


[29-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Pretty#9306
don't be so harsh, I don't think thats fair either


[29-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm half american, I get to shit on the americans for free =p


[29-Apr-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a joke


[29-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To distract from me being too ignorant of modern Spanish politics and maybe get a laugh


[29-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What "nationalism" in spanish politics means is regional nationalists


[29-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most prominently those in the Basque Country and Catalunya (also Valencia, Baleares, Canarias, and Galicia)


[29-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The important thing to note about the Basque and Catalan ones is they're outright and very proudly racist and xenophobic


[29-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And because of the way representative voting works for parliament, they hold much more power than they should at a national level


[29-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meaning practically every government since the 80s has been giving them more and more concessions


[29-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah so like if Texas had an independence party that got into Congress


[29-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
More like if Iowa did


[29-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they managed to represent 10% of congress, while being 2% of the national vote


[29-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And their only interest with what they could get for Iowa, actively promoting whatever plan makes the rest of the country weaker


[29-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But every party in power needed that 10% to pass this or that 2/3rds votes needed law


[29-Apr-19 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
#memes-and-shitposts is one channel down


[29-Apr-19 01:07 AM] Pretty#9306
so screw spanish politics


[29-Apr-19 01:08 AM] Pretty#9306
imho the best outcome would be PSOE+Cs getting to goverment but its no gonna happen because Cs are stupid


[29-Apr-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6e731ac5b3844df2869aeeb83c507804

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The Latest: Spain conservative leader acknowledges drubbing
MADRID (AP) — The latest on the Spanish national election (all times local): 12:40 a.m. The leader of Spain's conservatives is acknowledging that Sunday's election results for his...
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[29-Apr-19 01:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122312334414946306?s=21

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Trump falsely claims Democrats support murdering babies.

"The baby is born, the mother meets w/the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully. Then the doctor and mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby."

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[29-Apr-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really hope i dont hear his bullshit on this being spewed tomorrow at school


[29-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is related to what happens when there's an unviable child born


[29-Apr-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Calling it an abortion or infanticide is plainly wrong


[29-Apr-19 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122299727368859649?s=21 O Canada? What the fuck that’s got to do with anything

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LOL -- Trump's fans boo after he suggests they sing "Oh Canada" together https://t.co/WuTldeIL67
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[29-Apr-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TRUMP: "The other day our great hostage negotiator made the statement that Trump is the greatest hostage negotiator this country has ever had...  I put it out. Why not? You know, a lot of time if you are not going to brag about it, no one else is. You might as well do it."


[29-Apr-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122327015359692800

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TRUMP: "Prescription drugs - look, it's a rigged system. If I told you how crazy it is - the web, it's a web - you'd need a 193 IQ to even understand. This web of geniuses, they put this thing to lower drug price, it has 19 effects here - we got it down.” https://t.co/FD...
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[29-Apr-19 01:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qvNk52mXiU I was expecting trump to sing this

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BJ SNOWDEN IN CANADA
ADD ME ON FACEBOOK! http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000407950768 BJ Snowden ( the Queen of outsider music lip syncs to her original composition "In...
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[29-Apr-19 01:25 AM] illumnious#7938
Because


[29-Apr-19 01:25 AM] illumnious#7938
Canada


[29-Apr-19 01:28 AM] Pretty#9306
@prism stryder(intexda) the case of the PP conservative party is pretty incredible, they were the head government a year ago and now they only got 66 of the 350 congressmen, less than half of the last elections


[29-Apr-19 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should've had Soraya


[29-Apr-19 01:30 AM] illumnious#7938
SIX YEARS? https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122300967414849537?s=21 SIX FUCKING YEARS

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Trump tires to dispel rumors he won't leave office "at the end of six years," calls the media "sick people" https://t.co/57IQViqyBv
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[29-Apr-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does he  assume he;s winnign a second term or does he just plan tos tone wall access of the next rpesidential election winner?


[29-Apr-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be hoenst i could see him trying to just not leave office even if he loses


[29-Apr-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'll work his way to a 5 year government shutdown as soon as it comes time to organize elections


[29-Apr-19 01:33 AM] illumnious#7938
FBI as “scums” https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122564972008148997?s=21

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On Meet the Press, @SenRonJohnson *defends* Trump calling FBI and DOJ leaders "scum."

"I completely understand the president's frustration... there has been a concerted effort since the day after the election to sabotage this administration," he says. https://t.co/uCSEIqP...
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[29-Apr-19 01:34 AM] illumnious#7938
:radiant_hope_unamused:


[29-Apr-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:luna:


[29-Apr-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God the GOP are so fucking spineless


[29-Apr-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We want to kill everyone slowly but they hurt my feelings by calling me an asshole, it really hurts y'know? I just want to kill thme and thye just keep trying to resist me and I just feel oppressed"


[29-Apr-19 01:37 AM] illumnious#7938
Well good luck with that https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1122317859655495681?s=21

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Trump closes his speech in Wisconsin by promising to "make America great again." (He's been president for well over two years now!) https://t.co/NFJ9L7ao1b
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[29-Apr-19 01:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/shitshrimp/status/1121527050815275015?s=19

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He's already going for the gamer vote
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[29-Apr-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't tell what;s real anymore


[29-Apr-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/440888-democrats-face-new-civil-war-in-primary-fight

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Democrats face new civil war in primary fight
The bell has rung on round two of the Democratic Party’s civil war.
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[29-Apr-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/441009-trump-foxs-napolitano-asked-me-to-pardon-his-friend-put-him-on

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Trump: Fox's Napolitano asked me to pardon his friend, put him on ...
President Trump tweeted Saturday that Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano met with him and urged him to nominate Napolitano to the Supreme Court as well as grant a pardon to one of Napolitano's friends.
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[29-Apr-19 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You really have to wonder what the critical mass is on corruption for this kind of headline to *not* immediately spark concern across 100% of the government


[29-Apr-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whatever it is, I feel like we're well past that point 'cause making a list of members of congress who have spoken out in favor of impeachment only nets 100 or so names


[29-Apr-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/28/graham-i-dont-care-trump-mcgahn-1291382

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Graham: 'I don't care' what happened between Trump and McGahn
Graham claimed he had 'fought hard as hell' to make sure Mueller was able to carry out his investigation unobstructed.
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[29-Apr-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The next Democratic president can engage in so much Whataboutism


[29-Apr-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this administration has opened so many floodgates for future presidents and congresses


[29-Apr-19 02:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or it'll ensure we never have either again


[29-Apr-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i dotn see trump losing gracefully if he does


[29-Apr-19 02:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Another concern we can't lose track of is just how much the trump administration has eroded the image of America to the rest of the world


[29-Apr-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah we're a raging dumpster fire int he world;s eyes


[29-Apr-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if someone does try to capitalize on that, it'll awaken the war hawks and then we'll never see the end of it


[29-Apr-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is already pulling out of several post world war 2 treaties


[29-Apr-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48076262

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Trump to take US out of Arms Trade Treaty
The global pact, signed by Barack Obama, aims to regulate the sale of weapons internationally.
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[29-Apr-19 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just one more reason why the NRA needs to go


[29-Apr-19 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oliver north is down, hopefully the rest doesnt have long to follow


[29-Apr-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48084019

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Huge protest in HK over extradition plan
Under a proposed new law, suspects could be sent to mainland China for trial.
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[29-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/sargon-of-akkad

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Sargon of Akkad
Sargon of Akkad (also known as Carl Benjamin) is a YouTube pundit best known for his videos in which he criticizes people he calls regressive lefts, SJWs, and radical feminists, especially Anita Sarkeesian, having risen to prominence online due to his involvement in the #Game...
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[29-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
apparently sargon of akkad is trending on kym because his UKIP twitter got banned


[29-Apr-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
>On April 25th, 2019, BuzzFeed reporter Mark Di Stefano tweeted a video about Benjamin by BuzzFeed UK, noting that show him "repeatedly using racial slurs in YouTube videos" (shown below).


[29-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
>On April 26th, Benjamin's @CarlUKIP Twitter account was suspended. That day, Twitter user Nick Monroe tweeted about the suspension in a thread about the removal of "Tommy Robinson's": campaign account (shown below).


[29-Apr-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't even know he had gone into real politics


[29-Apr-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1121440688263053313

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Mark Di Stefano 🤙🏻 (@MarkDiStef)
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1121440688263053313
Here's the BuzzFeed News video showing UKIP's star candidate Carl Benjamin – known as Sargon of Akkad – repeatedly using racial slurs in YouTube videos: https://t.co/2zGNhKp5qB
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[29-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
"It's really annoying, like I- you're acting like a bunch of niggers. Just so you know, you act like white niggers, exactly how you describe black people acting is the impression I get when dealing with the alt-right."


[29-Apr-19 03:27 AM] Litrojia#0612
the Buzzfeed editing is the most cancerous part


[29-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
"'You act like an upper-class twat'? No, maybe you're just acting like a nigger mate. Have you considered that? Do you think white people act like this? White people are meant to be polite and respectful to one another, and you guys can't even act like white people. It's really, like, amazing to me."


[29-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit I didn't realize he was this racist


[29-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
no wonder basically no one talks about him anymore lol


[29-Apr-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
he killed his own relevancy


[29-Apr-19 03:32 AM] Litrojia#0612
yeah that was pretty blatant


[29-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, he said "I'm sorry about the Holocaust, but I don't give a shit."


[29-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/carl-benjamin-ukip-racism-youtube-sargon-akkad-mep-a8887696.html

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Ukip candidate who used N-word defends himself by saying: 'I find ...
Campaign group Hope not Hate calls for Youtuber to be sacked immediately
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[29-Apr-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
>A Ukip MEP candidate has defended his use of the N-word and other offensive language in a Youtube video by saying: “I find racist jokes funny”.


[29-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
UKIP's really taken a dive


[29-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
Not that they were any good to begin with


[29-Apr-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
sargon of akkad is literally the last person you'd want as an actual candidate lol


[29-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's like nominating rush limbaugh


[29-Apr-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that at least rush limbaugh has enough experience to know how to control his speech enough to not just spew nasty slurs everywhere


[29-Apr-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
but those types are really good at enflaming their listeners, but are pretty bad at actually doing anything


[29-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i'd rather have him than Anita tbh


[29-Apr-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck are you talking about


[29-Apr-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Anita would be a better candidate in every conceivable way


[29-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Anita is a horrible person


[29-Apr-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
You have had far too much kool-aid my dude


[29-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Mikey#7286
and represents the worst of modern day feminism


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll take the worst of modern-day feminism any minute over someone who casually says "I'm sorry about the Holocaust but I don't give a shit" or "you're just acting like a nigger mate"


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Because that's not a funny way of talking


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
That's indicative of who this guy is


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
As a person


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
when did he say he doesn't give a shit about the holocaust


[29-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
And the kinds of policies he cares about


[29-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Litrojia#0612
He said it in Crow's clip


[29-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[29-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[29-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, anita's not a saint either, but she'd be so much better than sargon it's not even funny


[29-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Mikey#7286
she has no good morale policies


[29-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[29-Apr-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Does that matter? She doesn't have these _obviously fucking evil_ ones that Sargon has


[29-Apr-19 03:59 AM] Mikey#7286
what policies does Sargon want again?


[29-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
don't know about what he says he wants personally, but from what he said in that video, probably a lot of racism, segregation, holocaust denying, and general antisemitism


[29-Apr-19 04:00 AM] Mikey#7286
that's a whole lotta assuming


[29-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Litrojia#0612
didn't really get holocaust denial outta that


[29-Apr-19 04:01 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[29-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
"I don't give a shit that some assholes systemically destroyed a sizeable chunk of your population"


[29-Apr-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
He wants a general end to identity politics and their prominence and a return to "traditional" societal roles according to a few sources


[29-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
that's not denial, that's just being an apathetic piece of shit


[29-Apr-19 04:02 AM] Litrojia#0612
^^


[29-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Litrojia#0612
still scummy, but he acknowledges that it happened


[29-Apr-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not a minor quibble over the depiction of women in video games, that's a full blown "go back to the kitchen" and "get these [brown] people out of my country"


[29-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Mikey#7286
it's still being an asshole and I wouldn't vote for him but I also doubt he's racist or wants segregation


[29-Apr-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
as opposed to... saying gamers are sexist?


[29-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
or looking for issues in games that aren't there


[29-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
"mario games are sexist because peach is always captured"


[29-Apr-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
How is that even close to being comparable


[29-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
no it's not worse


[29-Apr-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
but it's still shit


[29-Apr-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
What kind of god damn mental gymnastics do you have to go through to say that these people are on the same level


[29-Apr-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
This is like ultra hyper BSABSVR


[29-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
it reminds me of pretty much every drive-by nazi wannabe that's popped in here whining about how everyone's calling their views shit and equating being ostracized to being sent to concentration camps and gassed


[29-Apr-19 04:06 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
They both suck


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I wouldn't choose one or the other


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Mikey#7286
i just said i wouldn't vote for him


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so does dropping a burger on the ground and getting hit by a truck


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] Mikey#7286
but personally i respect Sargon more because he's honest


[29-Apr-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
No you didn't, you'd said you'd rather have him than Anita


[29-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Mikey#7286
i said I'd vote for him over anita


[29-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Mikey#7286
that doesn't mean I would actually vote for him


[29-Apr-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's not at all what that means


[29-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Mikey#7286
if you forced me to vote for one


[29-Apr-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
anita manipulated the narrative on how gamers and video games in general are sexist, but she didn't outright call an entire group inferior (with all the baggage that comes with that) and completely ignore the past suffering of an entire ethnic group


[29-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck does that have to do with it? If he says "I'm honestly going to completely fuck you" and does it, how is that any better than Anita doing something underhandedly


[29-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Especially considering that Anita doesn't care about brown people, just gamers


[29-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Being honest doesn't make anyone a good candidate


[29-Apr-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Don't fall for that crap


[29-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
They can be honest and be the worst possible candidate


[29-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not


[29-Apr-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and this is classic BSABSVR


[29-Apr-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Being honest and having no filter are also not the same thing


[29-Apr-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
i think sargon is a piece of shit


[29-Apr-19 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Having said that, I think Trump is at his most honest when he says things that fly past the "filter"


[29-Apr-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Clearly you don't think he's shitty enough.


[29-Apr-19 04:12 AM] Mikey#7286
if you wanna think that


[29-Apr-19 04:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if your most honest statements are also your worst, that's not something that should be respected


[29-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
you brought up anita out of fucking nowhere though to come up with some sort of false dichotomy between an unabashed racist and a slightly manipulative political activist


[29-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
why?


[29-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
there was no reason to do that


[29-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Mikey#7286
idfk


[29-Apr-19 04:13 AM] Mikey#7286
sorry


[29-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i just mentioned her because they've had several run-ins together


[29-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i admit that was dumb


[29-Apr-19 04:14 AM] Mikey#7286
forget I said anything


[29-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
sargon goes out of his way to have "run-ins" with people he's never actually interacted with before


[29-Apr-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
specifically by watching videos they make


[29-Apr-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can forgive that being the reason you brought that up 'cause you probably didn't know that detail, but also, why'd it take so long to mention that


[29-Apr-19 04:17 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[29-Apr-19 04:18 AM] Mikey#7286
sorry


[29-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48086244

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Rape victims asked to hand phones to police
Prosecutions may not go ahead if police are not given access to emails, messages and photographs.
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[29-Apr-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Victims of crimes, including those alleging rape, are to be asked to hand their phones over to police - or risk prosecutions not going ahead."


[29-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Coz of all these false rape claims


[29-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
... they already have the burden of proof


[29-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
it would come out during discovery that they lied


[29-Apr-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
punish the people lying, don't punish potential victims


[29-Apr-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
also, it includes all crimes, not just rape


[29-Apr-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The digital consent forms can be used for complainants in any criminal investigations but are most likely to be used in rape and sexual assault cases, where complainants often know the suspect.


[29-Apr-19 10:58 AM] Pretty#9306
If the proof of the accusation is on the phone it's reasonable that the police needs to access it, but this access should be limited exclusively to the accusation, and not to any other private content and the phone owner should have the right to be present while they check the contents


[29-Apr-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
that isn't what the article is saying, so what you said has no bearing on the protests against the policy


[29-Apr-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/OoWKHLj

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African American protestor in Chicago, 1941.-
https://i.imgur.com/BphCVx2h.jpg


[29-Apr-19 11:29 AM] Pretty#9306
And what is the article saying?


[29-Apr-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ca0309e344da4f539366c5992ecb5ea6

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GOP warning about socialism not resonating with many voters
ALAMOSA, Colo. (AP) — In this scruffy, high-desert town encircled by prairies and potato farms, Sen. Cory Gardner drew shouts of approval last week for his message that Democrats are shoving the...
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[29-Apr-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Link without facebook tracking id: https://pressprogress.ca/doug-fords-cuts-threaten-600-school-breakfast-programs-that-unicef-says-low-income-children-need/

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Mitchell Thompson
https://pressprogress.ca/doug-fords-cuts-threaten-600-school-breakfast-programs-that-unicef-says-low-income-children-need/
Doug Ford’s Cuts Threaten 600 School Breakfast Programs That UNI...
Recent cuts show urgent need for national school nutrition program
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[29-Apr-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, thanks, i hadnt even noticed the facebook thing


[29-Apr-19 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
They're everywhere


[29-Apr-19 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a dystopia


[29-Apr-19 06:11 PM] Honahue#0656
I keep saying this dystopia would be cooler if the megacorps that own us had cool names like Weyland Yutani OCP or Trioptimum instead we got dumb names like Google Amazon or Facebook


[29-Apr-19 06:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I even don't have fb account, ~~I knew they were up to something~~ some employers like to stalk their employees fb


[29-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
there's companies in the US that will flat out refuse to hire you if you don't hand over your facebook account details for them to look at


[29-Apr-19 06:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
*somewhere in alternate universe*
"Why are our corporations have lame posh names like Weyland Yutani and not Foodle-Poodle?"


[29-Apr-19 06:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Well, in Russia too.


[29-Apr-19 06:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I can make an account for sure, but it will be blank and logged out at all times. I have fake acc for that kind of activity lol


[29-Apr-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow guess I'm never getting a job then :)


[29-Apr-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no account and will never make one


[29-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Bad company sign. I bet it the same company that timing employees loo visits.


[29-Apr-19 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
neither do I


[29-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
never had one either, but that has actually happened


[29-Apr-19 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
someone was refused a job because they didn't have a facebook account


[29-Apr-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/what-to-do-if-company-asks-for-facebook-password-in-job-interview

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What to do if a company asks for your Facebook password in a job i...


[29-Apr-19 06:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And it is the same company that asks for support operators to hangup after 2 min of call.


[29-Apr-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it's called "shoulder surfing"


[29-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
>The ruling, made by the FTC in May, 2011, was that companies can use social media information as part of a background check, but this information must be available from public databases. In other words, strictly speaking, it could be illegal for companies to use private social media information against you without your consent. (I say could be because I am not a lawyer, I just pay attention.)


[29-Apr-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
>However, there are some cases wherein this type of deep probing could be deemed appropriate; for example law enforcement or defense. In this case, it would be easy for the employer to defend their request to access private data as it pertains directly to the candidate’s qualification to perform the job.


[29-Apr-19 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/politics/trump-nra-investigation-new-york/index.html

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Trump accuses New York attorney general of illegally investigating NRA
President Donald Trump on Monday accused the New York attorney general's office of illegally investigating the National Rifle Association and called on the group, which has been roiled by a leadership fight, to "get its act together quickly."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180513174659-oliver-north-2018-super-tease.jpg


[29-Apr-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
... I'm pretty sure that there's no such thing as an "illegal investigation"


[29-Apr-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I don't like this, I declare it illegal and intrusive!"


[29-Apr-19 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.pcgamesn.com/beat-saber/jimmy-fallon-copyright-claim

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/beat-saber/jimmy-fallon-copyright-claim
Beat Saber YouTubers are having videos blocked because of Jimmy Fallon
Ever since the late-night star played the awesome VR rhythm game, his show has been issuing copyright claims
https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/beat-saber-jimmy-fallon.jpg


[29-Apr-19 07:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@byte[]https://youtu.be/roNlgIY9QKw

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Nolan Bennett
https://youtu.be/roNlgIY9QKw
Some of You May Die
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/roNlgIY9QKw/hqdefault.jpg


[29-Apr-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48090616

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Norway finds 'Russian spy whale' off coast
A tame beluga wearing a Russian harness is thought to have come from a Russian navy facility.
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[29-Apr-19 07:13 PM] Crow#5457
how long before beluga bombers D:


[29-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon uploads of late night comedy is killing YouTube


[29-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They get top billing, not YouTube creators


[29-Apr-19 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But Fallon isn't even funny


[29-Apr-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the funniest of the least funny


[29-Apr-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus he panders a lot


[29-Apr-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But NBC Universal hammering him into YouTube yeah


[29-Apr-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He doesnt need to be funny for NBC universal to be copyright abusing fucknuts


[29-Apr-19 08:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Imagine a world where literally every DDR gameplay video gets copyright-striked because some celebrity decided to upload their gameplay to YouTube


[29-Apr-19 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*BREAKING: Breathing has now been copyrighted because Kim Kardashian does it.*


[29-Apr-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's a simple fix, we just need to strangle kim kardashian


[29-Apr-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oof


[29-Apr-19 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
Cardassians > Kardashians


[29-Apr-19 08:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nice try copyright holder but my breathing is very different from that of a Kardashians breathing as my breathing does not contain any alcohol, plastic or penis.


[29-Apr-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/cq5zg2ufp7v21.jpg

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https://i.redd.it/cq5zg2ufp7v21.jpg


[29-Apr-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[29-Apr-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
looks like someone was handed a free n-word pass for a day but didn't know when exactly to use it.


[29-Apr-19 09:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Teaspoon Hmmm.

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[29-Apr-19 09:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Oh it would've been totally justified except Cheney is way worse than any ni🅱:b:er


[29-Apr-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Is this real


[29-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
Probably not but it would be funny if Uber had an algorithm that accidentally called Cheney a nice🅱:b:er


[29-Apr-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
apparently it was real


[29-Apr-19 09:59 PM] Honahue#0656
beautiful


[29-Apr-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.fo/ues4O

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Uber Support on Twitter: "We're so sorry about that, Nigger! Pleas...
archived 29 Apr 2019 06:40:35 UTC
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[29-Apr-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
methinks it was an automated response


[29-Apr-19 10:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
We now know who has the N-word passes


[29-Apr-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuFaLoAhGs

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BadMouseProductions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuFaLoAhGs
Unheard Voices of West Asia and North Africa
A video about the plight of indigenous minorities in WANA and the Eurocentric viewpoints by which we analyse them. Content Warning: Scenes/Images of Genocide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/afuFaLoAhGs/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Apr-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Apr-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
possibly


[29-Apr-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know how likely that is


[29-Apr-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
the republicans are already ludicrously unpopular


[29-Apr-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is republicans are also insanely good at rigging systems regardless of how popular they are, 4 years of distraction gives them enough time to gerry rig the fuck out of shit


[29-Apr-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if the presidency isnt their's they can still get senate and congressional members in there to throw wrenches in the system much liek mitch mcconnell


[29-Apr-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it all depends on how willing the next administration is to change how things work  to improve checks and balances


[29-Apr-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is also causing massive damage that will take decades to fix


[29-Apr-19 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
The problem with Biden is that he represents the banks and credit card industry more than anyone else. And ironically, he doesn't even do that well based on how he's bragged about how little he's taken as lobby money from them


[29-Apr-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
But his voting history is full of appeals and support of the banks over everyone else.


[29-Apr-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden is a conservative neolib, whether democrat or republican


[29-Apr-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the democrats this generation are almost entirely conservative neo liberals. they aren;t as extreme as republicans but they sure as fuck aren;t going to benefit the american people if it means screwing over big business


[29-Apr-19 11:55 PM] Honahue#0656
whatever repub goes up will get the same voters Trump or RMoney got it won't matter


[29-Apr-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a major reason why thye want to put a stop to bernie sanders and ocasia cortez


[29-Apr-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
real democratic liberals are a threat to their money train


[29-Apr-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden can be bought and sold, and will follow orders while keeping his head down, so the DnC is going to fight for his nomination, Bernie is an actuall fighter with a trakc record of taking on banks and businesses who will fight for the people.


[30-Apr-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also learning that a lot of republicans in redneck areas basically want a night watchman state


[30-Apr-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least in my redneck area


[30-Apr-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant speak for the whole of america


[30-Apr-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
has there ever been a case where the second amendment's wording (a well-regulated militia) is used to argue in favor of gun regulations?


[30-Apr-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't know


[30-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Macarou#9574
It could possibly be done.


[30-Apr-19 12:05 AM] Macarou#9574
Not sure if it ever has, or if people would try, but it could be done


[30-Apr-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
I know that basically every gun regulation that goes to the supreme court ends up being allowed


[30-Apr-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/5/23/17383644/second-2nd-amendment-gun-control-debate-santa-fe-parkland-heller-anniversary-constitution here's an article regarding that

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The Second Amendment allows for more gun control than you think
We’re approaching the 10th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s landmark Heller decision. It didn’t cause a revolution in gun laws.
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[30-Apr-19 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Neither Biden nor Sanders will be nominated


[30-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm betting on Harris or Warren tbh


[30-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Now


[30-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Whether they beat Trump?


[30-Apr-19 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Ehhhh


[30-Apr-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right harris is a thing


[30-Apr-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i keep forgetting she;s running for president


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Honahue#0656
She is a cop tho


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If you're not a fan of Biden/Sanders you're probably looking towards Harris, Warren or Buttigieg


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Honestly


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
harris isn't generating enough hype to win the nomination, I've barely heard anything about her


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm a fan of sanders


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
she's too unknown


[30-Apr-19 12:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Also a cop


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I barely know anything about Harris lol


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
it'll come down to biden, warren, and bernie


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo anything about harris outside of her beign a cop


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Lol


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't think the conservatives that voted for Trump will vote for most of the dems


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
O'Rourke and Booker are also pretty much out of the picture lol


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Harris is the exception


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
the conservatives aren't what you try to win


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
you try to win the independents


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
I feel like some would


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ignore the conservatives


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Focus on the swing voters


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
diehard conservatives are <30% of the country


[30-Apr-19 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Mate


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Idk about that


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I heard it was closer to 40% on both sides actually


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You'd be surprised Mikey


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is harris being a cop a good thing or a bad thing?


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Acab


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A "landslide election" still has the popular vote split around 60-40


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
as in the "I will vote for donald trump because he is republican" types


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Being a cop isn't inherently bad


[30-Apr-19 12:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
40% are pretty firm Dem or Rep on both sides


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's bad for some voters, good for others


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
It's what you've done as a cop


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what has she done as a cop?


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
I've linked an article about what she's done back from 2017, it's not pretty


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
what she's done as attorney general of california


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
I haven't looked much into it but I haven't heard good things


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait is she the truancy mother jailer?


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/10012252/kamala-harris.jpg


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[30-Apr-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right


[30-Apr-19 12:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't know enough about Harris


[30-Apr-19 12:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But that might just be enough to destroy her election chances


[30-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
her election chances are down in the dumps already because nobody knows her name lol


[30-Apr-19 12:53 AM] Mikey#7286
Well


[30-Apr-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i sure as fuck didnt


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't see Biden or Sanders getting nominated


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Harris hasn't done much to stand out to me


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
and she's not the type to say something that deviates from what she feels will most likely get her elected, so she has no way to generate any sort of widespread support against 20+ other candidates


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden will likely be the media meal ticket, while the DNC goes for soemone else


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
based on what reasoning?


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Really? Biden/Sanders are highkey the frontrunners right now lol


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
biden and sanders are the frontrunners, with warren following up


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Name recognition plus mostly positive reputation


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Followed by Buttigieg and Harris


[30-Apr-19 12:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Everyone else can be ignored at this time


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden earned a strong following last election and still has a shit ton fo supporters


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
The DNC will just screw Sanders over again


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
and sanders is the only one actually generating hype, so he's definitely not out of the race yet


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the qwuestion is whether or not that will work this election


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
And push Warren or something


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
don't you mean bernie?


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
biden wasn't in the last election


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
I know


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woops


[30-Apr-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes i meant bernie


[30-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
But he has some shit in his book now that will put people away from voting for him


[30-Apr-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what shit is in his book?


[30-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
what shit?


[30-Apr-19 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
Being creepy around women?


[30-Apr-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
that's biden


[30-Apr-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden was the women creep


[30-Apr-19 12:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, he's running against Trump


[30-Apr-19 12:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pretty sure he can defuse those accusations decently well


[30-Apr-19 12:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"oh? You're going to call *me* out for behaving badly around women?"


[30-Apr-19 12:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"look at my opponent!"


[30-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden sniffed hair


[30-Apr-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump grabbed pussy


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie i donlt think has had any proven woman troubles that werent made up by people trying to smear him


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the hair sniffing is actually documented on video, the "grabbed pussy" was a joke told in private


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That also got put on video


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
That's what I was saying


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
Biden


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] Mikey#7286
Not Bernie lol


[30-Apr-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does biden have a book?


[30-Apr-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has 4 apparently


[30-Apr-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
there's video of trump grabbing a pussy?


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did thye?


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not the grabbing, him saying it


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
afaik no


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, he was telling a nasty joke in private when he thought he wasn't being recorded


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has also on a number of occasions said he'd sex his daughter if she wasn;t his daughter


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's not really that much better


[30-Apr-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
that's a different level of actually having video of someone sniffing a stranger's hair


[30-Apr-19 01:02 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/FSC8Q-kR44o

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CNN
https://youtu.be/FSC8Q-kR44o
Trump's uncensored lewd comments about women from 2005
WARNING: This story contains graphic language. Donald Trump bragged about trying to have sex with a married woman and being able to grope women in previously...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FSC8Q-kR44o/hqdefault.jpg


[30-Apr-19 01:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're both pretty awful; I don't think the public is going to ~~sniff~~ split hairs between the two


[30-Apr-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E

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Gabbee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E
Compilation of Joe Biden being Creepy
NEW VERSION: https://youtu.be/sBCZtz0MYDQ Creepy Joe Biden Strikes Again, Gets Uncomfortable With Defense Secretary's Wife Born in Pennsylvania on November 2...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xy07yHAgM4E/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Apr-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dnc will try and push biden but his scandals may make him unfavorable


[30-Apr-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's also the obvious smear question planted by CNN asked of bernie about the boston bomber being allowed to vote from prison because of bernie's support for felon voting, but if anything, his handling of that question is actually pushing the overton window back to the left


[30-Apr-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how did he handle it?


[30-Apr-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
because the majority of actual felons serving life sentences are nonviolent 3 strike drug offenders


[30-Apr-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i doubt this is the end of candidate announcements


[30-Apr-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we may get even more democrats running


[30-Apr-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the question of any republicans rising to challenge trump


[30-Apr-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
there is one


[30-Apr-19 01:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pfft they better have a entrance speech more memorable than the Gettysburg address or we ain't going anywhere


[30-Apr-19 01:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also you know weld isn't going to beat Trump (as much as I'd like him to)


[30-Apr-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/biden-ripped-as-the-hillary-clinton-of-2020-mulvaney-says-hes-losing-at-the-very-highest-levels-2019-04-26

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Analysts react to former Vice President Joe Biden’s official entry on Thursday into the 2020 White House race. Meanwhile, Acting White House Chief of Staff...
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[30-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
this is the best footage I can find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HolRT8n-Jnw&t=68

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Bernie Asked If Boston Bombér Should Vote In Clever Smear Question
"Most Americans think that criminals should be allowed to vote again after the justice system is done with them, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds. Some 63 pe...
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[30-Apr-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
(I cut out the opening talking head stuff, though it's not particularly bad in this case)


[30-Apr-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically like asking "should we ban water because mass murderers have to drink it to survive?"


[30-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
but basically, his point is that voting should be a universal right


[30-Apr-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
on par with the first amendment


[30-Apr-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
the US constitution made a big concession to the states at its inception to allow them to regulate who does and doesn't get to vote


[30-Apr-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his response was great


[30-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Litrojia#0612
No one that enters the race at this point has a chance. At least of the people speculated to run, none of them are anything special. If one of the big names takes a hit, there's one or two ranks of candidates to take their place.


[30-Apr-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of sad how fast republicans dropped the title of the US being the "beacon of democracy" when the literal definition of democracy became inconvenient to their stance on voting


[30-Apr-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
they're going super hard for "oh the US isn't ACTUALLY a democracy, it's a constitutional republic"


[30-Apr-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
which completely ignores the fact that the US democratically elects their representatives


[30-Apr-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You may have elected us, but we'll be the last things you ever elect"


[30-Apr-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G163UugE_EE

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Bernie Asked Why He Wants The U.S. To Be Like The Soviet Union
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[30-Apr-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who the secular talk guy is i;m jsut posting for the bernie sanders segment


[30-Apr-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/04/26/rich-guys-are-most-likely-have-no-idea-what-theyre-talking-about-study-finds/


[30-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Researchers embarked on a novel study intent on measuring what a Princeton philosophy professor contends is one of the most salient features of our culture — the ability to play the expert without being one.


[30-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Or, as the social scientists put it, to [bullshit].


[30-Apr-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Study participants were asked to assess their knowledge of 16 math topics on a five-point scale ranging from “never heard of it” to “know it well, understand the concept.” Crucially, three of those topics were complete fabrications: “proper numbers,” “subjunctive scaling” and “declarative fractions.” Those who said they were knowledgeable about the fictitious topics were categorized as BSers.


[30-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
>Using a data set spanning nine predominantly English-speaking countries, researchers delineated a number of key findings. First, men are much more likely than women to master the art of hyperbole, as are the wealthy relative to the poor or middle class. North Americans, meanwhile, tend to slip into this behavior more readily than English speakers in other parts of the globe. And if there were a world championship, as a true devotee might appreciate, the title would go to Canada, data show.


[30-Apr-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
>The data revealed that boys across all nine countries were significantly more likely than girls to pretend expertise, with the difference between the two working out to nearly half a standard deviation in some countries — a big gap, statistically speaking.


[30-Apr-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
>There’s also a significant class-based difference, with respondents from the wealthiest households showing a greater proclivity toward overstatement than those from the poorest. As with gender, however, the gap in the United States is the smallest among the countries surveyed.


[30-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
>Taken as a whole, the results appear to suggest that the countries with the greatest propensity toward bombast also have the smallest variances between groups living within them. In the U.S. and Canada, for instance, there may simply be so much [bullshit] going around that everyone ends up partaking in it.


[30-Apr-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
>In Europe, the trait is less widespread but more confined to males and the wealthy. That may result in less pressure on women and the non-rich to enhance their social standing through pretense.


[30-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/441221-warren-trolls-chase-bank-after-viral-tweet-draws-backlash

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Warren trolls Chase Bank after viral tweet draws backlash
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) trolled Chase Bank after the bank's attempt at sharing personal finance advice on Twitter was met with backlash.
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[30-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1122933302313111555

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love when institutions that caused a global financial meltdown tell me poverty isn’t structural but actually about personal responsibility.
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[30-Apr-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[30-Apr-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking Calvinism


[30-Apr-19 03:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really think it's just a "how do you do, fellow kids" gone dramatically wrong 'cause someone didn't understand the context of the original meme, and especially didn't think through how posting it from an *actual bank's account* would recontextualize it


[30-Apr-19 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I base this on the wildly inaccurate hashtag


[30-Apr-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, the post isn't even wrong literally


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
most people can walk 3 blocks


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
buying food in bulk from the grocery store is cheaper than eating out


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
and making coffee at home is much cheaper than buying it from starbucks


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, it does have an air of "STOP BEING POOR" to it on account of Chase bank, in particular, being the most financially bailed-out bank


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and having ridiculous fees etc


[30-Apr-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
but those aren't why people have no money to spend


[30-Apr-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, the specific money-saving measures in this post would save *less* than switching to a better bank


[30-Apr-19 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's like calling out someone with a little dirt on their shirt while your entire body is covered in a meter of mud


[30-Apr-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
those are certainly things that can be done to minimize costs, but they won't suddenly make people be able to afford shelter and food


[30-Apr-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The point is, it's a pot/kettle situation here


[30-Apr-19 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If the kettle is "black", then the pot is darker than any shade of black there is


[30-Apr-19 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's the difference between a slightly lower balance and crashing the world economy


[30-Apr-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but on top of that, there's also just the idea of "if your idea of saving money means not spending $7 on a coffee you already think I make more money than I actually do"


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only instance in which this kind of post is okay is when it's coming from a self-aware individual, anyway


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Chase bank is not *relatable* in any sense


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's so out of touch and dickish it hurts


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
in the last 3 weeks or so I had to spend about $15 a day to eat


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
that _hurt_


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking college


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
$7 coffee a day is $210 a month, making coffee at home probably costs between about a third of that


[30-Apr-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Crow, that's not the point


[30-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
I've already said that's not the point


[30-Apr-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
what are we arguing about again?


[30-Apr-19 03:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We're arguing?

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[30-Apr-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, you keep bringing that up so I keep responding to it


[30-Apr-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
how much do taxis cost?


[30-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
guess that depends on the area


[30-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
probably cheaper to take lyft nowadays lol


[30-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
does it matter


[30-Apr-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
(no)


[30-Apr-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], what did it normally cost to eat per day?


[30-Apr-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
if I were living at home $5 or less


[30-Apr-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
usually less because you can buy _a lot_ of food in advance and then just prepare it when you need


[30-Apr-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
damn, $15 a day sucks compared to that


[30-Apr-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think a flag drop (that is, base price) is usually $3 so if we just assume this strawman in Chase's post exists they're spending easily $20/day *extra* and I want you to think about how many middle-class people can afford to do that


[30-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
there's also the fact that the retail locations by my school only charge ripoff prices


[30-Apr-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, how many people can even afford the cost of living of $20/day, period


[30-Apr-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
and don't sell anything in bulk, all individually packaged


[30-Apr-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
I've not seen very many places that do sell in bulk


[30-Apr-19 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
often need a membership too


[30-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
my parents have a costco membership, it easily pays for itself


[30-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
and I mean that literally


[30-Apr-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they send a rebate check at the end of the year and the amount of the rebate is always more than the membership fee


[30-Apr-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there used to be a grocery store i lived near that sold frozen pretzels in bulk, but i moved so that;s not a thing any more


[30-Apr-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i havent seen a walmart sell bulk anything in near a decade


[30-Apr-19 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wish i lived close to a costco


[30-Apr-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
closest to me is an hour and 36 minutes away in raleigh


[30-Apr-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
103.1 miles


[30-Apr-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.fox29.com/news/bus-driver-who-admitted-to-raping-14-year-old-girl-sentenced-to-probation?fbclid=IwAR2vDSLmBaqiWWGV5JqdI3_JbBj4UXxVx44WpJsnF8aUd5uPymrki8ZWz_w

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Bus driver who admitted to raping 14-year-old girl gets probation,...
A former school bus driver who admitted to raping a 14-year-old girl will not spend any time behind bars.
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[30-Apr-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
>He will also be registered as a Level 1 sex offender, which is considered low risk of re-committing the crime and is not included in online sex offender databases.


[30-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[30-Apr-19 04:42 AM] Mikey#7286
The hell


[30-Apr-19 04:43 AM] illumnious#7938
What the actual fuck


[30-Apr-19 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He should never be allowed to drive a school bus again. He was in a position of trust and abused it.


[30-Apr-19 04:43 AM] Mikey#7286
Also he looks like a fucking sex offender lol


[30-Apr-19 04:44 AM] illumnious#7938

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[30-Apr-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the judge was just liek "he;s never doen it before so he's free to go as long as he doesn't do it again!"


[30-Apr-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what the double fucking hell


[30-Apr-19 04:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You get one free crime.


[30-Apr-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
if he was black, he'd be in prison for at least 20 years


[30-Apr-19 04:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
assuming he makes it to the court.

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[30-Apr-19 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
20? try "the cops planted some crack on him" then life without parole


[30-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
I meant for the crime committed


[30-Apr-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
not the extra stuff added on lol


[30-Apr-19 09:44 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/us/politics/trump-lawsuit-deutsche-bank.html

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Trump Sues Banks to Stop Them From Complying With House Subpoenas
The lawsuit, joined by the president’s three eldest children and his private company, seeks to stop Deutsche Bank and Capital One from turning over records.
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[30-Apr-19 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his eldest son looks like a ham in a business suit


[30-Apr-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/04/29/717467217/summer-bummer-a-young-campers-142-938-snakebite

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Summer Bummer: A Young Camper's $142,938 Snakebite
The snake struck a 9-year-old hiker at dusk on a nature trail in Illinois. Expensive antivenin and a helicopter ride to the hospital led to big bills that struck her parents a few weeks later.
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[30-Apr-19 01:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Oof https://i.redd.it/czs1m6j65bv21.jpg

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[30-Apr-19 01:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Also antivenin is cheap to make wtf


[30-Apr-19 01:14 PM] byte[]#2610
"$67,957 for four vials of antivenin"


[30-Apr-19 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are medicines in the us that cost 10 cents to make and somehow cost thousands of dollars to get a dose of


[30-Apr-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/24/1852731/-Warriors-for-Trump-MAGAbomber-s-letter-reveals-how-the-right-s-scripted-violence-works

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For Cesar Sayoc, becoming a follower of Donald Trump was “like my newfound drug.” He saw himself as a warrior “on the front lines of war between right and left.” He believed leftists had ...
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[30-Apr-19 01:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/30/venezuelas-guiado-says-final-phase-of-plan-to-oust-maduro-has-begun

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Venezuela: Guaidó pledges end of Maduro in video flanked by soldiers
Opposition leader posts video showing him speaking in Caracas
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[30-Apr-19 01:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This feels like a stupid decision tbh


[30-Apr-19 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda) that's why pharmaceutical industry are scum of earth. They will not make cure for a disease,  they will make a cure for a symptom instead.


[30-Apr-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much why they started the anti vaxx movement


[30-Apr-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted, stupid helped carry it;s momentum, but it;s pretty obvious who banks off anti vaxxers


[30-Apr-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/umbralDescend/status/1122813033355587586

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OMG Y'ALL I NEED TO SHARE SOMETHING.
SO YESTERDAY WE HAD AN ELECTION IN SPAIN RIGHT  
WELL THE LEFT WON BY A LOT AND THE FASCISTS ARE SUPER PISSED  
AND THEY HAVE CREATED A MASCOT TO TRY TO REPRESENT HOW "BAD" THE LGBT IS 

AND IT'S THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
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[30-Apr-19 02:49 PM] byte[]#2610
ALL CAPS SHOUTING TEXT MAKES YOU LOOK COOL RIGHT


[30-Apr-19 02:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
NO


[30-Apr-19 02:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
My eyes, my eyes,they are deaf now...


[30-Apr-19 03:22 PM] DevField#5162
You can tell this person used to be on tumblr 24/7


[30-Apr-19 03:22 PM] DevField#5162
why do tumblr people have  their own way of speaking?


[30-Apr-19 03:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Why do australians speak upside down?


[30-Apr-19 03:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Etam Yadig


[30-Apr-19 03:27 PM] DevField#5162
sooɹɐƃuɐʞ ʞɔnɟ I

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[30-Apr-19 03:49 PM] Pretty#9306
They didn't created the ghost, they stole it from a redbubble LGBT artist to represent the gay community on a tweet https://twitter.com/vox_es/status/1122427641750011904?s=09

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⚔🇪🇸 ¡Qué comience la batalla! 

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[30-Apr-19 03:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gay is spoopy


[30-Apr-19 03:51 PM] Pretty#9306
And the left won because they were lucky with the electoral system, they got the same number of votes the right got ( 11 million votes each)


[30-Apr-19 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Trumps sue to quash congressional bank subpoenas https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-sue-quash-deutsche-bank-capital-one-subpoenas-n999941

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Trumps sue to quash Deutsche Bank, Capital One subpoenas
Deutsche Bank has continued to lend money to the president when other banks have refused. Trump wrote a check to Michael Cohen on his Capital One account.
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[30-Apr-19 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Suedes two banks


[30-Apr-19 05:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>Capital One couldn't immediately be reached for comment.*

They're still dealing with the fallout of sponsoring that godawful gaming PC build video by The Verge :op:


[30-Apr-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So uh


[30-Apr-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently Guaidó's putsch in Venezuela has been a failure


[30-Apr-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
News outlets like Telesur report that Guaidó's supporters have no control over the Caracas air base, unlike what he claimed in his stream


[30-Apr-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And also that the dudes who appear in his stream video are literally all there is from him


[30-Apr-19 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This was a stupid move and now Maduro has every legal justification he needs to arrest his opposition


[30-Apr-19 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, it's a coup, these are always shrouded in mist


[30-Apr-19 05:57 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://twitter.com/umbralDescend/status/1122813033355587586

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OMG Y'ALL I NEED TO SHARE SOMETHING.
SO YESTERDAY WE HAD AN ELECTION IN SPAIN RIGHT  
WELL THE LEFT WON BY A LOT AND THE FASCISTS ARE SUPER PISSED  
AND THEY HAVE CREATED A MASCOT TO TRY TO REPRESENT HOW "BAD" THE LGBT IS 

AND IT'S THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
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[30-Apr-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/29/family-separation-protests-surveillance/

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Homeland Security Used a Private Intelligence Firm to Monitor Fami...
LookingGlass Cyber Solutions, a Virginia-based firm, gathered information on more than 600 family separation demonstrations across the country.
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[30-Apr-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-right-smear-merchants-jacob-wohl-and-jack-burkman-try-to-slime-pete-buttigieg-with-bogus-sex-assault-claim oh boy the wohl brothers are at it again!

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Far-Right Smear Merchants Gin Up Bogus Sex Assault Claims Against ...
The mayor was briefly accused of assaulting a young man. A GOP source says right-wing operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman approached him to make similarly untrue accusations.
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[30-Apr-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[30-Apr-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This didn't work ont he last guy we did this too, maybe this time it will!"


[30-Apr-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump daddy love us please!"


[30-Apr-19 07:17 PM] Honahue#0656
It's funny because a lot of anti gay Repubs end up having sexual assault charges or similar tossed at them by gay men


[30-Apr-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We were trying to assert dominance! wolves do it all the time! We totally didnt hire those gay hookers for a gay old time"


[30-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yay the left won in spain


[30-Apr-19 07:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Woo


[30-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/1122555549743235073

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I don't get it.  The tech Godzillas have all the algorithms in the world to get us to buy shit, so why can't they keep hate speech off the internet?  Those video games are no help either.  Fuckers sit around in diapers shooting & shooting, because if they leave, their team...
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[30-Apr-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Grandma Yells at Cloud


[30-Apr-19 08:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
who


[30-Apr-19 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
k, looked her up


[30-Apr-19 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's actually someone I've always despised just for that disgusting smile


[30-Apr-19 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like a vacuum molded mask


[30-Apr-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's that? Little Suzie got a snakebite? Time to get out the shotgun, we need one of the kids to go to college!


[30-Apr-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
40% of Americans would be bankrupted by a sudden $400 expensive, $140,000 may very well be that entire family's net worth.


[30-Apr-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
the insurance covered almost all of it ($69,461.28), they "only" had to pay $3476.89


[30-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess no more camping trips ever again.


[30-Apr-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like these numbers are arbitrarily set up to milk the beneficiaries of as much money as possible without letting them onto the fact that they aren't actually dodging a bullet by not having to pay such an absurd amount of money


[30-Apr-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
so when looking at the pure numbers, it looks like a huge bullet was dodged, but in reality they shouldn't even be paying over $3000 at all


[30-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[30-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the point


[30-Apr-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hospital recoups lost money from people who go to the ER and walk away, plus legal fees trying to force people to pay, by absolutely jamming any high cost they can onto people that will surely pay, and their insurance plans.


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta say something too


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the entire point of privatized healthcare in the US


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When people talk about long wait times at doctor's offices and ER in Canada


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm like


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do these people actually go into the ER or doctor's office and get served immediately


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is to make middle America pay out the fukking ass to stuff the wallets people owning insurance companies and hospitals.


[30-Apr-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've had to wait a long time for both


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ER? AFAIK, yes.


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Americans hav like, 12 hour wait times in some ERs


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
people just fall over dead


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I'm saying


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No way do these people actually not wait at an ER


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a doctor's office


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anywhere else in the world, the ER might be busy sometimes, but you aren't gonna be made to wait many hours


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My opthalmologist would schedule an appointment for 1


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The things they wait for are scheduled surgeries and specialists


[30-Apr-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He wouldn't see you until 4 or 5


[30-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
America's lakk of preventative care leads to a lot of wasted resources on people who are near death


[30-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he got sick later on but this was before


[30-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually I changed doctors and then found out he died


[30-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But see here's the thing Its


[30-Apr-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
In America, if you hav good insurance


[30-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can almost always see a specialist within a week


[30-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Pretty#9306
Depending of the test you may have to wait months on public healthcare


[30-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And basic treatment within a few hours


[30-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans really support is the ability to pay assloads of money to get treatment before all those dying poor fukks.


[30-Apr-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that they hate)


[30-Apr-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They consider universal healthcare *a bad goal*.


[30-Apr-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, healthcare, as with all other services, should be given first and often only to those of higher class.


[30-Apr-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
(who just happen to be white males)


[30-Apr-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want the poor to not even be treated period.


[30-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obamacare was a slap in the face cause it made sure that, like, people dying of cancer could still get health insurance without being rich.


[30-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not because of the individual mandate or anything like that.


[30-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Emergency situation.
> They busy finding out if one on insurance or not.


[30-Apr-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, the ER doesn't chekk insurance


[30-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
but because so many use it, it ends up taking forever


[30-Apr-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Regular doctors however, you need to establish a relationship with the hospital to even see them quite often, and insurance matters for that.


[30-Apr-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ER ends up being the poor person's part of the hospital unless someone's been shot etc..


[30-Apr-19 09:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Insurance. Covers up to 150%.
> Does't tell exactly what is covered or not.


[30-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Didn't cover full amount.


[30-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many insurance plans actually hav an out of pokket limit requirement to hit before they pay a dime.


[30-Apr-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like they'll say the first $15,000 a year of care is completely on you to pay or.


[30-Apr-19 09:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> ##% of monthly payment goes to an pool.
> Pay out of pool, then out of pocket.
> Pays for big stuff.


[30-Apr-19 09:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And what infuriates me, they don't give a list of doctors on the network. Hospitals, yes.


[30-Apr-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718677236/trump-and-democrats-agree-on-2-trillion-for-infrastructure-but-not-on-how-to-pay

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Trump And Democrats Agree On $2 Trillion For Infrastructure, But N...
Democratic congressional leaders called the White House meeting "very constructive," but the big question remains unanswered. The parties will reconvene in a few weeks to discuss funding options.
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[30-Apr-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/anti-semitic-attacks-us-doubled-adl/story?id=62722230

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Anti-Semitic attacks in the US have doubled: ADL
The Jewish community in the United States experienced near-historic levels of anti-Semitism last year, according to new data from the Anti-Defamation League.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/pittsburgh-synagogue-stars-ap-ps2-190430_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[30-Apr-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
> The ADL recorded a total of 1,879 anti-Semitic incidents across the country in 2018, the third-highest year on record since the New York-based Jewish organization began tracking such data in the 1970s. Those incidents included cases of assaults, harassment and vandalism.


[30-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
> The total number of anti-Semitic incidents recorded last year dipped 5 percent versus 2017. But the number of incidents in 2018 was actually a 99 percent increase versus 2015, according to the ADL.


[30-Apr-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
so basically both 2017 and 2018 each had double the number of antisemitic incidents of 2015


[30-Apr-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
So


[30-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
This guy is challenging Trump in the Republican primary


[30-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Weld

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Bill Weld
William Floyd Weld (born July 31, 1945) is an American attorney, businessman, and Republican politician who served as the 68th Governor of Massachusetts from 1991 to 1997 and the Libertarian Party's nominee for Vice President of the United States in the 2016 election, sharing...
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[30-Apr-19 11:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I want to take that ABC link seriously, but due to recent events all I can imagine is "THEY USED THE OKAY SYMBOL AND PUT UP RAINBOW FLAGS EVERYWHERE also there was something to do with milk that was pretty weird tbh"


[30-Apr-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Internet: We're going to use Irony 😄


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nazis: Hey, we like this Irony <makes their irony part of their iconography>


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
News: <Points this out>


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Internet: omg i cant believe the media would make our irony fascistic


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Irony's dead. Death to online humorists


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Long live humor


[30-Apr-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
that's what spanish leftists did with that rainbow ghost that spain's far-right party made to mock them


[30-Apr-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
and all it ended up doing is giving exposure to the trans-friendly artist who drew the original ghost image


[30-Apr-19 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
The right is more active in their expropriation or ironic re-tooling of innocuous images to symbols of their own movement, which they can hide behind as, "It's just a joke" as they continue on shooting up places or worship while still throwing them up. The OK-Sign being White Power may have been irony, but it was quickly expropriated by the Fascist Alt-Right as a legitimate dog whistle under the cover of "trolling the media", in much the same way milk is, or associating the LGBT rainbow flag with white people.


[30-Apr-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
And to just sorta go, "Well it's still funny, and not at all Nazi related" as it enters the lexicon of the fascist right, and is responded to with only fascist memes or talking points. Like how the Clown World video has in its comments references to Nazi talking points and dog whistles.


[30-Apr-19 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Continuing the excuse it all as humor, and none of it should be taken seriously misses the point entirely and only helps to throw cover.


[30-Apr-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Spanish left is the only case of left-wing re-appropriation of a right-wing dig I can remember in this past year. Otherwise it's been the right taking over symbols and limiting the range of political expression of the other side by making everything hip Nazi related.


[30-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"haha let's trick the media into thinking this symbol we're using is a racist dog whistle"- racists using it to be racist


[30-Apr-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't need to type all of that, that's the jist.


[30-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I was going to say something similar, but got distracted in another channel


[30-Apr-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like nazis like to appropriate common/popular unrelated symbols for their use, while the left wears symbols made to mock them as badges of pride


[30-Apr-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both are motivated by a desire to manipulate connotations.


[30-Apr-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right wants to do it to disguise themselves so their true intentions are harder to see, while the left wants to do it so the right is less able to paint them badly.


[01-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/how-medieval-churches-used-witch-hunts-to-gain-more-followers

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How Medieval Churches Used Witch Hunts to Gain More Followers
The Catholic and Protestant churches promoted themselves by persecuting witches, economists argue.
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[01-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
>Why’d it happen? Well, as with the Salem witch trials, there are a lot of theories. In the past, scholars have suggested that bad weather, decreased income, and weak government could have contributed to the witch trial period in Europe. But according to a new theory, these trials were a way for Catholic and Protestant churches to compete with each other for followers.


[01-May-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2KjabftIvE

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Silvia Federici presents Caliban and the Witch
This show presents an audiobook-ish experience, based on a talk by Silvia Federici about her book 'Caliban and the Witch'. This book talks about how the deve...
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[01-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
>In a forthcoming Economic Journalarticle, economists Peter Leeson and Jacob Russ lay out their argument that the two churches advertised their finesse at persecuting witches as proof that they were the best church to join if you wanted protection from Satan. Witches, after all, were doing the bidding of Satan; so getting rid of them was a way to protect people from him.


[01-May-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A protection rakket, but the guys who ruff people up don't exist, and instead you murder random innocents you pretend are those guys.


[01-May-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's basically just what's considered ultraconservatism today


[01-May-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
overton window back then is likely extremely alien to what it is today


[01-May-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, women were basically property.


[01-May-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Individualism as a concept didn't really exist.


[01-May-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
that's pretty similar to what ultraconservatives want today, just they can't outright say it because it would be political suicide


[01-May-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, in case you didn't see it https://twitter.com/umbralDescend/status/1122813033355587586

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OMG Y'ALL I NEED TO SHARE SOMETHING.
SO YESTERDAY WE HAD AN ELECTION IN SPAIN RIGHT  
WELL THE LEFT WON BY A LOT AND THE FASCISTS ARE SUPER PISSED  
AND THEY HAVE CREATED A MASCOT TO TRY TO REPRESENT HOW "BAD" THE LGBT IS 

AND IT'S THE CUTEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN
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[01-May-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of religion is to self-sustain with baby factories


[01-May-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women being independent beings with rights runs counter to that.


[01-May-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideal christian wife is a robot that prints babies and recites scripture to them every night.


[01-May-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
don't forget cooking and general housework


[01-May-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://scontent.fmnl6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/58625862_1538193709644195_3928087551738380288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl6-1.fna&oh=618874deee989f899292e3b16852cbe0&oe=5D6F21EC

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[01-May-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish this were true


[01-May-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Mrs obama get down


[01-May-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
ALso wtf drinking milk is alt right?


[01-May-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a thing people tried to make alt right ironically


[01-May-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thinkt hey were inspired by an article that called milk recist because blakc people were in the highest percetage of lactose intolerance, i might be wrong


[01-May-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[01-May-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean that is true


[01-May-19 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
it was a dumb thing cause mostly europeans keep lactose tolerance past childhood so ability to drink milk was some dumb ass way of saying you are white


[01-May-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will take full advantage of my lactose tolerance thank you very much

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[01-May-19 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
I think even europeans lose it after like 40ish though


[01-May-19 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
least that's what I've heard


[01-May-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
No you just have to keep drinking milk


[01-May-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Your body will continue to make lactase as long as you do


[01-May-19 12:57 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't drink a lot of milk


[01-May-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i drink a lot of milk


[01-May-19 01:00 AM] DevField#5162
I used to when I was younger


[01-May-19 01:00 AM] DevField#5162
It matters more once you get older though, afaik


[01-May-19 01:00 AM] DevField#5162
Especially if you're a woman


[01-May-19 01:00 AM] DevField#5162
Osteoporosis etc.


[01-May-19 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
you really need vit d and calcium or it won't matter


[01-May-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8a18145f858e41e88475360b9a7decee

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Trump threatens Cuba as US supports Venezuela uprising
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration quickly declared enthusiastic support Tuesday for the Venezuelan opposition effort to spark a military uprising against embattled President Nicolas...
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[01-May-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Late in the day, President Donald Trump threatened a “full and complete embargo” and sanctions on Cuba if its troops do not cease operations in Venezuela. National Security Adviser John Bolton alleged earlier that Cuban troops were keeping Maduro in power in Caracas.

Trump and senior foreign policy figures in his administration all weighed in during the day, casting the effort headed by opposition leaders Juan Guaido and Leopoldo Lopez as a move to restore democracy, not an attempted coup like the short-lived effort to oust then-President Hugo Chavez in 2002 that seemed to have U.S. support.

“We are with you!” Vice President Mike Pence tweeted to the opposition. Pence, who has had a lead role in the administration’s effort to persuade Maduro to give up power, told the opposition group, “America will stand with you until freedom & democracy are restored.”


[01-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/441253-pelosi-barr-will-be-obstructing-congress-if-he-does-not-appear-before-house

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Pelosi: Barr will be 'obstructing Congress' if he does not appear ...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Monday that Attorney General William Barr would be “obstructing Congress” if he fails to appear before the House Judiciary Committee this week,
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[01-May-19 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/louisiana-cop-charges-abuse-dogs/?fbclid=IwAR1bTYJE2X3PIKyWPsPPNeCjq5mDSBzfqCGlI2oG5PKAgGkRxWQEDoq13gY

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Matt Agorist
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Highly Decorated Cop Charged With 20 Counts of Raping Dogs, Includ...
A Louisiana cop was arrested and charged with 20 counts of sex abuse against dogs, including filming the interaction with his own police K9.
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[01-May-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it technically assaulting an officer too


[01-May-19 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
40%


[01-May-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
yes, I'm pretty sure that's the case


[01-May-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's usually done so that they can add charges to anyone who hurts a police doggo


[01-May-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48101637

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Naruhito becomes Japan's new emperor
Emperor Naruhito formally takes up the Chrysanthemum throne a day after his father's abdication.
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[01-May-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Emperor Naruto


[01-May-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I say at a glance and was confused


[01-May-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
hot take: trump is american naruto


[01-May-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Please don't link TFTP


[01-May-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a garbage malware-ridden website


[01-May-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
↙ ↙ ↙ https://i.redd.it/q632y4hw2bv21.jpg

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[01-May-19 03:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponythinking:


[01-May-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Please Do* Dump Trash


[01-May-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that may hav been the point with how it's worded.


[01-May-19 03:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't do this... Also here are the names, locations and a map. :badbacon:


[01-May-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pleeaaaase doooon't do this teeeeerrrible thing that you can easily do and we won't stop you and here's a map and names.


[01-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
lmao yeah


[01-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
that's definitely an invitation to dump trash on their properties


[01-May-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
assuming it's real, anyway


[01-May-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The flyers are real, but it seems people aren't sure they're official.


[01-May-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Tomorrow's gonna be a real verbal fireworks display isn't it


[01-May-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what's tomorrow?


[01-May-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr's set to testify before congress, first of two days


[01-May-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[01-May-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr is apparently saying he refuses which means he might be jailed instead


[01-May-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Either we get Graham just wasting time with pointless questions, Barr perjures himself, or he's a no-show and we'll see if Nadler's bark has any bite


[01-May-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause if he DOES refuse then it's a one-way instant ticket to being charged with obstruction


[01-May-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
imagine him actually getting sentenced for obstruction and trump pardons him


[01-May-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And that's just tomorrow


[01-May-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thursday's gonna be a show too


[01-May-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
because of the bank subpoenas


[01-May-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO


[01-May-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president should not be able to pardon people for crimes committed against congress or impeachment.


[01-May-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and btw, a federal judge has decided that Congress *can* sue Trump re: emoluments clause over his business


[01-May-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president being able to override congressional oversight of the executive is not okay.


[01-May-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
trump's even more retarded than he seems if he thinks that he can sue private companies to stop them from giving over subpoenaed records to the GOVERNMENT


[01-May-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congressional-democrats-emoluments-lawsuit-targeting-president-trumps-private-business-can-proceed-judge-says/2019/04/30/ae2ae6be-5b9f-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html?utm_term=.953066528ac8


[01-May-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
trump as a private citizen is most definitely the less scary of the two


[01-May-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well he said he was gonna stop all the subpoenas, and by Ronald McDonald, he's *gonna*


[01-May-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or at least he's going to try. I'm sure the supreme court will totally have his back 'cause that's what they're there for right


[01-May-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And with Rosenstein stepping down, this week is one of the wildest so far


[01-May-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/rod-rosenstein-resigns-letter-trump-mueller-barr.html

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Rod Rosenstein Embodies the Republican Surrender to Trump
The departing deputy attorney general kept his job by giving in to a lawless president.
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[01-May-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can't forget the judge in the Burana case going "oh no you don't either" to Barr/Liu's suggested wording that she be removed from the country "promptly upon her sentencing," and changed it to "promptly upon the completion of her sentence" either


[01-May-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's just *so much* to keep track of


[01-May-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this presidency is a shitshow of epic proportions


[01-May-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/441489-mueller-told-barr-his-summary-didnt-capture-context-nature-and

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Mueller expressed 'frustration' to Barr over lack of context in letter
A Justice Department spokeswoman said Tuesday that special counsel Robert Mueller expressed “frustration” to Attorney General William Barr in late March over the lack of context in the attorney general’s four-page memo describing his investig
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_muellerrobert_barrwilliam_041219getty.jpg


[01-May-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/441468-federal-judge-rejects-trump-request-to-dismiss-democrats-emoluments

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Federal judge rejects Trump request to dismiss Democrats' Emolumen...
A federal judge on Tuesday rejected President Trump’s request to dismiss a lawsuit alleging that Trump has violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.
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[01-May-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20180501/authorities-release-names-of-officers-involved-in-fatal-barstow-walmart-shooting

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Authorities release names of officers involved in fatal Barstow Wa...
Officer previously charged with a hate crime among patrolmen named in fatal shooting of Diante "Butchie" Yarber on April 5.
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[01-May-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old but wow


[01-May-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article229714994.html

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NC lawmakers want to shut down future teacher rallies on school days
The proposed North Carolina education budget says schools can’t approve personal leave requests for teachers unless they can confirm a sub is available. School districts have cited the lack of subs with canceling classes for teacher protests.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/xmx6ia/picture211264809/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/051618-TEACHER%20PROTEST%20DRONE-TEL-07A


[01-May-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unc-charlotte-shooting-suspect-trystan-terrell-had-no-interest-guns-n1000536

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UNC Charlotte shooting suspect had no interest in guns, grandfathe...
"This is not in his DNA," the suspect's grandfather said Tuesday.
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[01-May-19 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
>Tristan Field, 19, who was in the campus' Kennedy Building, when shots rang out from the other side of the room, told NBC News that he didn't hear the gunman say a word.


[01-May-19 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
>"He just started shooting," Field said.


[01-May-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/677b7b2f0c184e65921afe2314e468ac

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Trump depicted in Mueller report feared being called a fraud
WASHINGTON (AP) — The fear was persistent. As the Russia investigation heated up and threatened to shadow Donald Trump's presidency, he became increasingly concerned. But the portrait...
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[01-May-19 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
imagine if people started chanting fraud at a speech


[01-May-19 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
and he just has a mental breakdown


[01-May-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes please


[01-May-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ff8a0eed70d0451584a941eab7a5d15c

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Barr, Mueller trade barbs as Russia probe rift goes public
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr pushed back Wednesday at complaints from Robert Mueller over his handling of the Russia investigation report, leveling his own criticism at the...
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[01-May-19 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Attorney General William Barr pushed back Wednesday at complaints from Robert Mueller over his handling of the Russia investigation report, leveling his own criticism at the special counsel as simmering tensions between the Justice Department and Mueller’s team broke into public view in extraordinary fashion.

Testifying for the first time since releasing Mueller’s report, Barr said he was surprised Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Donald Trump had tried to obstruct justice, and that he felt compelled to step in with his own judgment that the president had committed no crime. Barr also complained that Mueller’s report did not, as requested, clearly flag sensitive material, creating weeks of work for the Justice Department as it moved to redact grand jury material that was not intended for the public.


[01-May-19 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/af4b097d901046c09833ab6abe2f7b5c

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Gillibrand wants to give voters $600 to donate to campaigns
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Kirsten Gillibrand has announced a plan to give every voter up to $600 in vouchers to donate to a spate of federal candidates. But those...
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[01-May-19 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[01-May-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont entirely understand myself but it sounds like an attempt to spark interest in the topic of candidate funding and how much they accept in donations


[01-May-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could be entirely off the mark though


[01-May-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/488f83fb2255491d9f66d5b4c505dea4

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WikiLeaks' Assange gets 50 weeks in prison for jumping bail
LONDON (AP) — A British judge sentenced WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Wednesday to 50 weeks in prison for skipping bail seven years ago and holing up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in...
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[01-May-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why the fukk is it 50 weeks? That's just barely under a year.


[01-May-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like an old Roman lunar calendar year


[01-May-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
50 weeks does seem excessive for skipping bail, yes


[01-May-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But why not just hit him with the maximum year if you're going to be excessive?


[01-May-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This has political play written all over it


[01-May-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
attempt to make it not seem a year


[01-May-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/trump-financial-statements-full-of-lies

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Trump’s Financial Statements Are So Full of Lies That They Came ...
Newly obtained documents show the brazen methods with which the president inflated his assets to banks and insurance companies.
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[01-May-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456099146001285142/573194515305988106/received_546641525742770.png

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[01-May-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cursed image


[01-May-19 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
absolutely evil


[01-May-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
you can have capital that isn't privately owned


[01-May-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
granted, capital isn't people either, and that thing seems to be talking more along the lines of "capitalism day" than "capital day"


[01-May-19 08:42 PM] Honahue#0656
Maximum boot licker image


[01-May-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
also, capital is hugely dependent on labor, but not vice versa


[01-May-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
since even the "sticks and pocket change" they mention on the labor side is still capital


[01-May-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
however, automation is making capital no longer require labor


[01-May-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
different kind of labor


[01-May-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/douglas19011461/status/1111305749848883200

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douglas durst (@douglas19011461)
https://twitter.com/douglas19011461/status/1111305749848883200
My brother Robert was acquitted of the underlying crime (homicide), but was convicted of obstruction of justice…and the world is safer for it.
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[01-May-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obstruction requiring the underlying crime to be completed would defeat the point


[01-May-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just because McGahn saved his skin doesn't mean Trump didn't obstruct


[01-May-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao just saw a guy wish people a happy May 1st and someone asked if he was a socialist


[01-May-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy was confused and whined about California instead


[01-May-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItMikTVdDs

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The Salt Lake Tribune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItMikTVdDs
We Will Sing One Song by Joe Hill
joehill.sltrib.com “We Will Sing One Song,” published in 1913, is an example of Joe Hill’s practice of taking well-known songs of his time and giving them ne...
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[01-May-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw I wanted to do a piece of art for today but I got fucking busy and forgot what date was coming up


[01-May-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JmFa2Q40lg

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BadFish_GR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JmFa2Q40lg
Tony Babino - L'Internationale (swing jazz version)
Tony Babino - L'Internationale (working class anthem)
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[01-May-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know the scene in Man in the High Castle where the lounge singer sings End of the World in Japanese/English


[01-May-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the Soviets won and this happened


[01-May-19 10:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Off topic but https://twitter.com/shibarussell/status/1123178320470925312?s=21

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Shiba Russell (@ShibaRussell)
https://twitter.com/shibarussell/status/1123178320470925312?s=21
Should kids be able to order Uber Eats to school? An infuriated Georgia educator posted this pic on Facebook showing how much food was collected after ONE HOUR. He asks how can teachers teach when 1,000 students are randomly calling and meeting Uber on the street #MorningR...
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[01-May-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare the young prisoners in training acquire outside resources.


[01-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"1,000 students ordered five meals?  Who goes to this school?  Jesus?"


[01-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[01-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Asks how teachers can teach when kids are ordering food


[01-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>School has _1000 students_


[01-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[01-May-19 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Slaves don't deserve actual food that they pay for with their own money


[01-May-19 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
-lawmakers, probably


[02-May-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think even when I went to school there was a thing against eating in class because it was distracting. Not because they shouldn't eat or buy food from the cafeteria. But Uber Eats also didn't exist then.


[02-May-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
distracting because kids are often really noisy eaters


[02-May-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
there's even a few students who eat during one of my classes this semester in college, and both the smell and the noise is often distracting


[02-May-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ever try to eat a bag of chips while the teacher is lecturing, even when you can eat?


[02-May-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Shit's loud as fuck


[02-May-19 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
"I'll just grab a bee-bee-que ch-" C R U N CH C H SHSHHS


[02-May-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are the children eating this food in class?


[02-May-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
"He asks how can teachers teach when..."


[02-May-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
I suppose so


[02-May-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm


[02-May-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i sneak food in class it;s usually a muffin sicne those are quiet and you can eat them in tiny bits


[02-May-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
>muggin


[02-May-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2012/6-14/TTQxOLKyPZ-2.png

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[02-May-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
don't get mugged by a thug muffin


[02-May-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is on the verge of such a mental breakdown, banks are obeying subpeonas and will probably provide even mroe evidence than they were going to before he sued them. Barr is falling appart at the seams, and he has like 14 other investigations against him


[02-May-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec455a7ba1c846deaf8a2616f7754698

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Key takeaways from AG Barr's testimony, Mueller's letter
WASHINGTON (AP) — It was Attorney General William Barr's testimony, but Robert Mueller's words stole the show. In his appearance Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Barr was on...
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[02-May-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
If you were eating food quietly at my HS nobody gave a shit


[02-May-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
If you were obnoxious you'd get kicked out


[02-May-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, trump's lawsuits would just end up bankrupting him


[02-May-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/491b072b38df439baba3c0d5ca9ea01f

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Slain student hailed as hero for confronting campus gunman
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — A North Carolina college student tackled a gunman who opened fire in his classroom, saving others' lives but losing his own in the process, police said...
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[02-May-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure would be nice if we didn;t need the heroes and just didn;t have the shootings to begin with


[02-May-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/10f95fcea48a42b5906390107bd3f44d

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Budget office: Caveats to government-run health system
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional budget experts said Wednesday that moving to a government-run health care system like "Medicare for All" could be complicated and potentially disruptive for...
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[02-May-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Vdhw809FHsY

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fuckupierre
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[02-May-19 01:55 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Pretty normal bg music, because the music sounds like a bg track.


[02-May-19 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
>All this hemming and hawing for not even 1% of the economy


[02-May-19 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Those health insurance managers will find new jobs and the others - if we wanted to be generous - could be retrained if they so wanted.


[02-May-19 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
The people that ran those companies don't need a job, because they got enough money to float to the end.


[02-May-19 01:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They will find another job at an insurance company.


[02-May-19 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or they can be poached to work for the expanded public office overseeing it all.


[02-May-19 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Enroll everyone automatically, tax some net revenues from big private buisinesses before that money gets to shareholders, and be done with it.


[02-May-19 01:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
No need to limit yourself between center-right and right lib thought here, Congressional Budget Office. But then again: that's what you are ultimately.


[02-May-19 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/woke_teen/status/1123729608367575042?s=20

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[02-May-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.law.com/dailybusinessreview/2019/04/29/cancer-survivor-judge-steps-down-from-case-over-insurers-barbaric-denial-of-treatment/?slreturn=20190401010617

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Cancer-Survivor Judge Steps Down From Case Over Insurer's 'Barbari...
Cole, Scott & Kissane managing partner Richard Cole is the named plaintiff in a putative class action lawsuit against United Healthcare Insurance Co., which denied him coverage for proton beam radiation therapy to treat cancer.
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[02-May-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
paywall


[02-May-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Mueller DID complain to shit about Barr


[02-May-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it was all kept secret at the time


[02-May-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
People's defenses of Barr are crumbling.


[02-May-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[02-May-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/440284-philip-morris-starts-uk-life-insurance-firm-offering-discounts-to-smokers

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Tobacco company starts life insurance firm offering discounts to s...
The tobacco company behind Marlboro cigarettes is starting a life insurance firm in the United Kingdom, and will offer discounts to people who quit smoking.
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[02-May-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/01/immoral-barbaric-cancer-surviving-judge-blasts-insurer-denying-therapy-before-recusing-himself/


[02-May-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, was about to link that


[02-May-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, the judge got personally fukked so hard he essentially said "you're going to lose, fukk you cunts, someone else will hav to write the decision"


[02-May-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In polite, judge-like words.


[02-May-19 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/idkbrosorry/status/1123658670397632514

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im bad at usernames (@idkbrosorry)
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[02-May-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazi more like


[02-May-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nerdzi


[02-May-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously who dresses like that


[02-May-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
The sort detached from their own social network and who believe that the non whites are ruining their culture when in really the atomization of capitalism has dissolved all that and the only thing left standing were the people too poor for capitalism to bother colonizing


[02-May-19 02:39 AM] Honahue#0656
r/MFA


[02-May-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[02-May-19 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Male Fashion Advice


[02-May-19 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/woke_teen/status/1123729608367575042

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cant believe this is real https://t.co/s38rHPh4or
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[02-May-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't the UK voting in the fucking EU elections tomorrow


[02-May-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK hates brown people and edgy online stuff more than it does its economy being crushed by its stupid decisions.


[02-May-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a joke.


[02-May-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relevant https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438422061753434112/564255855940206592/image0.jpg

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[02-May-19 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[02-May-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is it with Twitter for the right


[02-May-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't you just say last year someone can refuse service for their beliefs?


[02-May-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This would be like


[02-May-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
because they think that all of the rules should only apply to everyone who isn't them


[02-May-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Fox News brought on a liberal talking head


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you get it, Its?


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They said something controversial and cut their mike, like they always do


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right lies


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
their entire point is to be liars


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then the person could bring a claim against Fox


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consistent viewpoints run counter to their ability to win.


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't **believe** in freedom of speech.


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone tried to explain "oh but a lot of people use Twitter"


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't.


[02-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to stop thinking like they do.


[02-May-19 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I go into a Wal-Mart and throw shit everywhere and mess up the store


[02-May-19 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
if the Wal-Mart kicks me out my free speech is violated


[02-May-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like asking whether Emperor Palpatine really did get the second Death Star finished the moment he made the reveal


[02-May-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like thinking that Bill is really her dad in Kill Bill


[02-May-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want a law on this, either, Its.


[02-May-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was never the point.


[02-May-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that liberals believe in free speech.


[02-May-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that they silence liberals, then tell liberals they can't be silenced bakk because of free speech.


[02-May-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals then confer and ponder this.


[02-May-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
While they go organizing hate crimes or such.


[02-May-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like in a comedy where you point out to the guard about to arrest you that he's breaking some technicality and so he arrests himself while you blow up the kingdom.


[02-May-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Left navel gazes too much


[02-May-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin


[02-May-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't buy into it.


[02-May-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The majority of conservative discourse is literally spouting falsehoods.


[02-May-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether it be manufactured facts or beliefs


[02-May-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always with a bias favoring them.


[02-May-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My personal way to deal with it is basically to ask "Okay, so what do you want from that belief?"


[02-May-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, you hate X group/post about how X group is bad


[02-May-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you actually _want to happen_


[02-May-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think I've ever gotten a straight up "kill them all"


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is a poor line of thinking because what they want to have happen does not stem from the belief


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's always some random pusssyfooting around


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
their beliefs stem from what they want to have happen


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least as far as the right is concerned


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So you will never get a straight answer to that question, nor would you want one


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it would only serve to rationalize their belief in that moment


[02-May-19 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I never get a straight answer because they don't know what they want


[02-May-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their hope is to rile people up and what happens happens, I guess


[02-May-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's never "kill them all", it's always "let them pull themselves up", "preserve law and order", "keep things fair", or "prevent silencing of my side of the argument"


[02-May-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, as mentioned, beliefs are the same as facts in this scenario


[02-May-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(last one being that, if you giv gay people rights, it means taking away freedom of speech from those against gay rights etc., which is retarded, but a common thing for conservative arguments)


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, they are reactionaries


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can say you hate gays all you want


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't really *want* anything, even


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one's putting you in prison for it


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't like what they see.


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like people who say the current things aren't good.


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't hate gays


[02-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like the gays or the blakks or whatever.


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't *want* something, they don't *hav* an endgoal.


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
But if some faggot ever tries to touch me


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just perceive themselves as the only things holding bakk some out of control train.


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
I'll- DAD THERE'S A BIRD IN THE HOUSE


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they will put forth any bullshit to tighten their grip.


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why fascism falls apart, as well, normally.


[02-May-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not sure what scenario Mikey is acting out right now


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually it reaches some state where it can only hate itself.


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he's mokking reactionaries as being children.


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Entropy


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right, okay. It didn't start out as sounding sarcastic, that's all


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservativism is standing in front of the march and screaming stop, or whatever the Buckley quote is


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The question is always AND THEN WHAT?


[02-May-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, you've taken over France


[02-May-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND THEN WHAT?


[02-May-19 03:16 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/_X2iMqZ1qc0

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https://youtu.be/_X2iMqZ1qc0
Tourettes Guy - Bird in the House
The Tourettes Guy tries to comfort Shirlena.Some lost footage.He then makes an attempt at interview 5,before he discovers a Bird in the House
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_X2iMqZ1qc0/hqdefault.jpg


[02-May-19 03:16 AM] Mikey#7286
@WingbeatPony


[02-May-19 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I shoulda known


[02-May-19 03:16 AM] Mikey#7286
It's from tourettes guy lol


[02-May-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
ΔS


[02-May-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48126974

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Gavin Williamson sacked over Huawei leak
No 10 says Theresa May had "lost confidence in his ability to serve" in his role.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p0781shm.jpg


[02-May-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
PragerU everyone
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/573329278045913103/2l9psy9luis21.jpg

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[02-May-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nani


[02-May-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hitler uses thunderbolt on enemies CNN, It's not very effective


[02-May-19 04:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
DIESE THOT IST ENTDECKT


[02-May-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's like an alt-right wikihow illustration


[02-May-19 05:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzbGaXiy4F0

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TL;DR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzbGaXiy4F0
TL;DR - Islamic Land Ownership: The Impending Issues
Land ownership is an interesting concept under a legal system governed by religion. It will also certainly lead to tensions in the future when religious doct...
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[02-May-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>2019


[02-May-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>VHS artifacting to be cool


[02-May-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>furry deer with condescending look as avatar


[02-May-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Am I actually expected to click this


[02-May-19 05:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes?


[02-May-19 05:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because it's a researched discussion


[02-May-19 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's not bad as far as political youtubers go


[02-May-19 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-May-19 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/bronzehammer/status/782408312730095616?lang=en

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jf (@BronzeHammer)
https://twitter.com/bronzehammer/status/782408312730095616?lang=en
Well, I'd like to see ol Donny Trump wriggle his way out of THIS jam!
*Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily*
Ah! Well. Nevertheless,
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[02-May-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How much do you want to pin that on the GOP collectively seeking refuge in his audacity?


[02-May-19 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They did it with Bush but he did things because he wasn't too bright.


[02-May-19 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now any member of the GOP would throw him under the bus.


[02-May-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So many were willing to fall on a sword for him


[02-May-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bush was a useful idiot, trump is a corrupt steak salesman with the keys to the kingdom


[02-May-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No people really defended Bush


[02-May-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a lot


[02-May-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People have forgotten he was so disliked his last two years he gave out free money


[02-May-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come on


[02-May-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
bush was not stupid enough to be a proper gop leader


[02-May-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guarantee you if a Democrat does the stuff Trump is doing now a decade from now they will already have been impeached though


[02-May-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because Democrats can't keep it together


[02-May-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All they have to do is point to precedent at that point


[02-May-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a national emergency to allow abortions


[02-May-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or take away guns from certain people


[02-May-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the point


[02-May-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
this country is totally and utterly fucked


[02-May-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
no redeeming value


[02-May-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont see it recovering


[02-May-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had a shot and we fucked it


[02-May-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
normally I advocate for slow and steady reform in the face of complex challenges


[02-May-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
but the internet has made this impossible


[02-May-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
politicians can say anything because people don't know anything


[02-May-19 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's generational


[02-May-19 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with the generational thing is that the generation who wants to make things better has almost no power, while the older generation who wrecked it has all the power and is batshit insane to boot


[02-May-19 05:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell already made his "I am king and I decide what happens in my kingdom" speech to the world


[02-May-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
it's actually a lot harder for politicians to get away with shit nowadays because of the internet


[02-May-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, the internet is destroying society just because society can't adapt at even the tiniest fraction of the rate that the internet changes culture


[02-May-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
and not even just the internet, just the rate of new technology coming out in general


[02-May-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
like not even 5 years ago, the materials science field was at a loss of what to do about how absurdly long it took to test all the new materials being developed, but now they have an AI predict all the tests that they should do for a new material and have the new material tested and catalogued in days instead of months


[02-May-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are conservative to an extreme


[02-May-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't be trusted to run a gov't


[02-May-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't be trusted to run anything.


[02-May-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an entire generation built on going "wow they're giving BLAKKS RIGHTS? I didn't get the world handed to me on a silver platter for this"


[02-May-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But like


[02-May-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weren't they hippies


[02-May-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The 80s just fucked them


[02-May-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some of them were hippies


[02-May-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the rest were taught that hippies were scum


[02-May-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they ended up splitting into hippies, who were kind of alright but completely ineffective at making change


[02-May-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a bunch of shitheads who ride on social programs they don't want to fund for anyone else


[02-May-19 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hear Boomer and think "completely run by brand loyalty" as one of the major traits


[02-May-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism trained them to be anti-reform and anti-drug


[02-May-19 06:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and pro great value apparently


[02-May-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
anti-"""socialism"""


[02-May-19 06:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
living wages are for communists and members of isis!


[02-May-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cold War was a damn mess


[02-May-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wilsonianism is horrid.


[02-May-19 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I get the brand loyalty thing from the "Millennials are killing X" X being things that are mediocre at best and now there are way better options but apparently people are bad for picking them


[02-May-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
mediocre or just utterly fucking useless to someone who can barely afford rent


[02-May-19 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How dare you not go to an Applebee's


[02-May-19 06:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the bussinesses being killed are businesses so used to selling to boomers they refuse to adapt to a new audience with a lower income


[02-May-19 06:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne blame said audience isntead of adapting


[02-May-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or better tastes


[02-May-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their last hoorah with the Boomers is nursing homes and funerals


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
keep in mind that boomer industries aren't just dying because of changing tastes


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
they're dying because the middle class is disappearing


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Changing tastes is a major reason though


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
the people that would normally provide a mass market for the products being offered


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
$10,000 to be put in a box, shoved in the ground, and for all your senile friends to watch


[02-May-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
are disappearing


[02-May-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
With insurance specifically for it


[02-May-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
like damn


[02-May-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just weird


[02-May-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, damn, I'm not gonna go out of my way to go to applebees for a shitty burger or sandwich or whatever because [(1) I don't have time for that between my three jobs (2) I'm close to running out of money already (3) wendy's is cheaper and I like it more]


[02-May-19 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
choose one


[02-May-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Around the area I grew up in, two major kinds of buildings are going up: retirement homes and daycares


[02-May-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard not to see it as screaming "one end is coming and another beginning is starting"


[02-May-19 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also gen x but considerign their lack of political interest i'm unsure how things will go with them


[02-May-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X is basically boomers with less money


[02-May-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're mildly less shitty but generally were so overshadowed in every way that they don't bother.


[02-May-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Control of the country will probably skip right to millennials over the next 30 years


[02-May-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
buttigieg and cortez are both millennials I think


[02-May-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, cortez is 29 and buttigieg is 35


[02-May-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
buttigieg is right on the border between gen x and millennial


[02-May-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Presidency requires you to be at least 35


[02-May-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And House requires you to be at least 25


[02-May-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cortez couldn't be elected to the senate yet.


[02-May-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials can just barely reach presidency now.


[02-May-19 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only a matter of time at this point


[02-May-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the founding fathers put in age limits at a time when people died at 60 and did their major work at 40


[02-May-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
modern medicine and other factors mean that now politicians serve basically until death


[02-May-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
now, we have 20 year olds inventing facebook


[02-May-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
...at over 80


[02-May-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So people do their major work at 20, aren't allowed in the gov't period until like 40, and then hav to compete with people that could be their great-grandfathers.


[02-May-19 08:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Ah5MYGQBYRo

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Ending the Subscribe to Pewdiepie Meme
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[02-May-19 09:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/GDYJO-1IhN8

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Don't Shoot, He's Not Black
From DBS episode 56 dub. It was intentional. The voice actor for Trunks needed multiple attempts
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[02-May-19 01:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] the creator of Pepe the frog tried desperately to wrest use of his meme from alt-right chuds, but failed


[02-May-19 01:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i doubt Pewdiepie will have any more success


[02-May-19 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alt-right chuds are like blakc holes of pure hatred, if they have your meme it might be better just to old yeller it


[02-May-19 01:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or appropriate it. i long for an image of a pepe dressed up as a CNT-FAI militiaman


[02-May-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm half surprised the alt right hasnt started eatign pizza backwards since trump did it in an 80's advertisement


[02-May-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-puzza-eating-crust-first-gif-5027070

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donald trump eats pizza
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[02-May-19 01:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh hey i found this

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[02-May-19 01:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wholesome


[02-May-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bfa49625a5114bb5b66ddc3b3e758804

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Lawmakers to see empty chair, not AG Barr, at House hearing
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr plans to skip a House Judiciary hearing Thursday on special counsel Robert Mueller's report , escalating an already acrimonious battle between...
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[02-May-19 01:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Empty McChair, esq.


[02-May-19 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope they follow through on their threat of jail time


[02-May-19 01:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This also goes to show that he fully expected the treatment he got in front of Graham


[02-May-19 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i missed the hearing, what treatment did he get?


[02-May-19 02:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like they weren't talking to an empty chair already yesterday


[02-May-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@prism stryder(intexda) GOP jerked him off over how amazingly impartial and stoic he was, then moved the rest of their time to bitch about Clinton, Obama, and the FBI investigating Trump's campaign


[02-May-19 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so the usual


[02-May-19 02:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dems asked repeatedly about whether the campaign tried to collude or obstruct, not just that they failed, asked about some of Trump's blatant lies, and asked about Barr's lies re: Muellers' concerns after the letter


[02-May-19 02:12 PM] Crow#5457
from what I heard, mueller was the star of the hearing yesterday


[02-May-19 02:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As expected, he weaseled around the hard questions with stuff like "I was asked about Mueller's team's concerns, not Mueler himself", or just repeatedly not answering a question by saying something else


[02-May-19 02:12 PM] Crow#5457
even though it was barr's hearing


[02-May-19 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Barr was basically a sack of rotting potatoes with glasses painted on for the entire duration


[02-May-19 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[02-May-19 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unnecessary for the GOP's circlejerk and avoidance, and unresponsive to the dem's questions


[02-May-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr in general is a sack of rotting potatoes with glassses painted on


[02-May-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's what he was hired to be and it;s his only role in life


[02-May-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48130068

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Ex-CIA agent admits spying for China
Jerry Chun Shing Lee is believed to be linked to the dismantling of a US espionage network.
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[02-May-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
An ex-CIA agent has pleaded guilty to spying for China, the US justice department says, in a case believed to be linked to the dismantling of a US espionage network.

Jerry Chun Shing Lee, 54, left the CIA in 2007 to live in Hong Kong, where he was recruited by Chinese agents.

Prosecutors say the naturalised US citizen was then paid to divulge information on US covert assets.

This led China to bring down a network of informants between 2010 and 2012.

About 20 informants were killed or jailed during that period - one of the most disastrous failures of US intelligence in recent years.

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[02-May-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/441709-trump-gets-powerful-new-rival-in-letitia-james

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Trump gets powerful new rival in Letitia James
President Trump has a new and powerful rival in Letitia James, the first woman and the first African American to serve as New York’s attorney general.
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[02-May-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/dd-party-member-with-3-charisma-keeps-trying-to-fucking-roll-deception/

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D&D Party Member With -3 Charisma Keeps Trying to Fucking Roll Dec...
Sarah Huckabee Sanders was seen attempting a Deception roll despite her character sporting an abysmal 5 total Charisma score.
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[02-May-19 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
>WASHINGTON — Sarah Huckabee Sanders, roleplaying as Press Secretary, was seen attempting yet another Deception roll despite her character sporting an abysmal 5 total Charisma score, according to insiders from within the Trump administration. The low roll of 3 (natural 6 minus 3 when factoring in Charisma) was contested by the entire nation’s passive Insight, which at the time of reporting currently sits at 9.


[02-May-19 03:53 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
>this guy
I never said he didn't do anything wrong, I'm saying if that n word ford backed up south Vietnam like we promised we wouldn't have this fucking communist eye sore on the map


[02-May-19 03:54 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
We had already forced the VC into submission by threatening to just bomb tf out of all their shit and all we had to do was supply south Vietnam with supplies


[02-May-19 03:54 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
But then geopolitics came in and ford said "lmao what does this do for America what a waste of time and resources" and he just noped the fuck out.


[02-May-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
that's right though, it does do nothing for the US


[02-May-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
the red scare is called such because it was a scare


[02-May-19 03:55 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
But damn does it make me angry to see Ho Chi Minh on a map


[02-May-19 03:56 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
One could argue the Same for troop presence in Australia, they don't want us there, they treat us like shit, and tactically Malaysia was much better


[02-May-19 03:56 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Erm


[02-May-19 03:56 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
The Philippines


[02-May-19 03:56 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Cough cough


[02-May-19 03:56 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
We have like one base in Alice springs


[02-May-19 03:57 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
We could invade that stupid continent in a week to, the Texas state guard has like 4x the troops in the active alone


[02-May-19 03:57 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And way more stuff as well


[02-May-19 03:57 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Lots of things went wrong in vietnam. One of the big ones were the early m16s they sent everyone with had huge issues with jamming due to the wet/humid jungle weather


[02-May-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
I think it's funny that the US failed to stop pretty much every currently communist country that was actually becoming communist at the time, but destabilized dozens of center-left and moderate left countries which weren't actually communist over the course of the cold war


[02-May-19 03:58 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
We didn't fail we just kept pussying tf out last second. And the goal of unifying America against an unreal threat *cough cough* 9/11 *cough cough* worked


[02-May-19 03:59 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Frankly we need another red scare, this countries too damn diverse to not have a common enemy


[02-May-19 03:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's pretty ridiculous that we ended up fighting lots of countries over what amounts to a political ideology, and people still yell at each other over it.


[02-May-19 03:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I know other things were going on at the time, but still


[02-May-19 03:59 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Well yes, in the first world we don't need to worry about immediate threats such as food and water so we have time to worry about non issues


[02-May-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the red scare is part of why capitalism got as fucked up as it did, every debate over what we should do to fix things wound up ending with "Fuck you you dirty commie scumlord" and such to the point where nothing could be done for healthcare, workers rights, and employee wages


[02-May-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it became the best weapon against any form of workers progression for awhile


[02-May-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It also became a useful tool in fucking over your neighbors. Don't like a neighbor? report him as a commie


[02-May-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it united the people but it also made it super easy to divide them as well


[02-May-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
want to sabatoge a political opponent? Say he's a commie and let the media do the work for you!


[02-May-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
need the intelligence agencies to overstep their bounds on things? Justify it in the name of stopping communism!


[02-May-19 05:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So contempt of Congress for Barr?


[02-May-19 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/monopoly/images/4/44/GO_TO_JAIL.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130414001309

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[02-May-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[02-May-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bfa49625a5114bb5b66ddc3b3e758804

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Empty chair and a prop chicken: Barr skips Mueller hearing
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr skipped a House hearing Thursday on special counsel Robert Mueller's Trump-Russia report, escalating an already acrimonious battle between Democrats...
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[02-May-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6e8132f2c131477eb4b9ff67f02c7921

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Poll shows most in US want changes in how government works
After more than two years of the Donald Trump presidency, Andrea Petrusky is ready for some fundamental changes in the way the United States government works. "Right now we're being shown...
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[02-May-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“Right now we’re being shown all of the loopholes, the president being able to do all the things that no president should,” said Petrusky, a 46-year-old elementary school teacher in a Seattle suburb. “It’s time to update what he’s allowed to do and not do. I think it’s time to toddler-proof the presidency.”

Petrusky is not alone in yearning for big changes to the way the United States government is structured. A new survey by the University of Chicago Harris School for Public Policy and The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that 54% of Americans think the system needs major changes and 12% believe it should be completely replaced.

While 61% of Democrats like Petrusky want big changes, 52% of Republicans do as well. About 1 in 10 Democrats and Republicans say they want the system completely replaced, while that view is about twice as common among independents.


[02-May-19 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“These politicians get into office, and they just sit there and sit there and sit there,” said Conford, who goes without health insurance because he can’t afford it. “It’s immigrants’ rights and criminals’ rights up and down the board, and us hardworking citizens have to pay for it.”


[02-May-19 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[02-May-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly we need to vote by combat


[02-May-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fastest lap around White House wins


[02-May-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Careful, some records are hard to beat


[02-May-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bush did 9:11

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[02-May-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i do agree there needs to be a weakening ont he powers the senate majority leader, and the president holds, and there needs to be major conflict of interest rules enforced on all positions of government


[02-May-19 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in other words oil tycoons and lobbyists, and loan sharks cant be nominated for the head position of EPA or secretary of education


[02-May-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they have a history of attempted sabotage of the department they're being nominated for, they are auto disqualified


[02-May-19 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such as someone who lobbies for or runs an insurance company, they should not be allowed to be nominated for head of the healthcare department


[02-May-19 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456099146001285142/573567864313872384/08bdc7c3-b73b-4997-8390-60fba8248e85.png

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[02-May-19 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
apparently, Beto runs a twitter account for his own dog.

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[02-May-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[02-May-19 08:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
Pretty sure Buttigieg does too


[02-May-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/60bdb566746a410fb14c2b1f34a4ddea

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Trump Fed choice Stephen Moore withdraws amid controversy
WASHINGTON (AP) — Stephen Moore, a conservative commentator whom President Donald Trump had tapped for the Federal Reserve board, withdrew from consideration Thursday after losing Republican...
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[02-May-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thecollegefix.com/high-school-may-erase-george-washington-murals-traumatizes-students/

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High school may erase mural of George Washington: ‘traumatizes s...
‘Glorifies slavery, genocide, colonization, manifest destiny.’…
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[02-May-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>A Northern California public school district may remove a mural of George Washington from the halls of George Washington High School due to concerns that it’s offensive and demeaning to Native Americans and African-Americans.

The controversy comes after a working group determined the mural, made up of several panels, “traumatizes students and community members.” But advocates for keeping the 83-year-old mural say that removing it ignores the intent of the artist and represents an attempt to erase history.


[02-May-19 10:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:trixdisgust:

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[03-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/technology/facebook-alex-jones-louis-farrakhan-ban.html

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Facebook Bans Alex Jones, Louis Farrakhan and Others From Its Services
The move, which critics said was a long time coming, is an escalation of the social media company’s enforcement of its content policies.
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[03-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
no more gay frogs


[03-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[03-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
who's louis farrakhan


[03-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
>The other people banned include: Louis Farrakhan, the outspoken black nationalist minister who has frequently been criticized for his anti-Semitic remarks; Milo Yiannopoulos, the provocateur and far-right media personality; and other, less-prominent but still controversial figures like Laura Loomer, Paul Joseph Watson and Paul Nehlen.


[03-May-19 01:16 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Not sure whether this should go here or in memes & shitposts (decided to play it safe):
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/2/18527177/verizon-seeking-tumblr-sale-rumor-blogging 
https://www.pcmag.com/news/368139/pornhub-wants-to-buy-tumblr-amid-news-that-its-up-for-sale

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Verizon is looking to sell Tumblr after squandering its potential
Where will Tumblr land next?
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Pornhub Wants to Buy Tumblr Amid News That It's Up For Sale
So far, Verizon has declined to comment on the potential sale of Tumblr, but the company has at least one interested buyer. According to BuzzFeed, Pornhub is "extremely interested" in acquiring the blogging platform.
https://assets.pcmag.com/media/images/622934-tumblr.png?thumb=y&width=810&height=456


[03-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
not really political, but ok


[03-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/02/least-one-person-came-out-smelling-like-rose/


[03-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
>Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) asked clipped, insightful and fact-based questions. She left Barr stammering and got him to concede that he had not looked at the underlying evidence before giving his own prosecutorial opinion on obstruction of justice. Even worse, he fumbled around when asked if the president or anyone else at the White House had asked or suggested he investigate someone:


[03-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
you know which candidate amazon's gonna push


[03-May-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
granted, it is an opinion piece


[03-May-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr is very clearly guilty of crimes now


[03-May-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's see whether congress roasts him for it.


[03-May-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Contempt of Congress


[03-May-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ffs


[03-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're gonna need some powerful anti-executive power amendment after all this.


[03-May-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I almost want an Executive Council


[03-May-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not sure how you would pick each person


[03-May-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By region maybe?


[03-May-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
I'm just imagining the south having its own council seat right now


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like a shitshow already


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South would oppose basically every measure


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well the West and Northeast get it too


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be South, West, Midwest, Northeast


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Majority vote, just have an odd number of members


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
South: No


[03-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
West: Conserve the environment


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Midwest: Do nothing


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Northeast: Tax the poor


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(said in that order)


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Good ol' Pornhub. First order of business after buying will be to bring back the porn.


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
South, West, Pacific, Midwest, Northeast


[03-May-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
3/5 needed to do something


[03-May-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
what is the difference between "west" and "pacific"?


[03-May-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
West, Pacific, Northeast go about saving the environment, South and Midwest complain that the council exists.


[03-May-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only CA, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii


[03-May-19 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
We already have a council it's called the Senate and it's kinda a shit show too


[03-May-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/climate/offshore-drilling-safety-rollback-deepwater-horizon.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/climate/offshore-drilling-safety-rollback-deepwater-horizon.html
Interior Dept. Loosens Offshore-Drilling Safety Rules Dating From ...
The loosening of regulations on offshore drilling equipment has been a been a key piece of President Trump’s efforts to ease restrictions on fossil fuel companies.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/05/02/climate/02CLI-SAFETY2/02CLI-SAFETY2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[03-May-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I love that picture


[03-May-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The Trump administration on Thursday made public its rollback of a major offshore-drilling safety regulation, significantly weakening an Obama-era rule that was put in place after the 2010 Deepwater Horizon explosion in the Gulf of Mexico, which killed 11 people and sent 4.9 million barrels of oil gushing into the sea, causing the worst oil spill in American history.

Interior Secretary David Bernhardt, a former oil lobbyist who was confirmed by the Senate last month to head the agency that oversees the nation’s public lands and waters, announced the plan Thursday afternoon in Port Fourchon, La., the vast industrial hub that serves as the onshore base for most companies that drill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The oil industry praised the move. Environmental groups warned that the rollbacks could pave the way for similar crises to happen again.


[03-May-19 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
the GOP doesn't care


[03-May-19 02:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Nice, get the ecological collapse started faster


[03-May-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
and then what happens when another oil spill happens


[03-May-19 02:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Poor people get hurt


[03-May-19 02:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Rich people get insurance pay outs


[03-May-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
the ocean gets polluted


[03-May-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
more


[03-May-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
the Trump admin and GOP don't give a rats ass about the environment or the people that work these oil barges


[03-May-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
GET REKT https://www.npr.org/2019/05/02/711346081/opioid-executive-john-kapoor-found-guilty-in-landmark-bribery-case

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https://www.npr.org/2019/05/02/711346081/opioid-executive-john-kapoor-found-guilty-in-landmark-bribery-case
Opioid Executive John Kapoor Found Guilty In Landmark Bribery Case
The federal government accused John Kapoor, the founder of Insys Therapeutics, and his co-defendants of running a nationwide bribery scheme that contributed to the opioid crisis.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/04/09/ap_19030810900753_wide-1dc324c1baaff7f9c463d70b4e7fde655c95067c.jpg?s=1400


[03-May-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo


[03-May-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
VIVE


[03-May-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-May-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Regarding the oil regulations, need I remind you that the Gulf is *still* covered in oil from Deepwater Horizon


[03-May-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, a relative just went down to Texas to visit someone and spent a day at the beach, and recalled that everything was sticky and there was a black smear at the high tide line


[03-May-19 04:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tztfp6rIa5s

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tztfp6rIa5s
FBI: Antifa Planned Armed "Disruption" Of US Border Security
FBI: Antifa Planned Armed "Disruption" On US Border Security. According to FBI documents reviewed by the San Diego Union-Tribune the FBI is tracking "Anti Fa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Tztfp6rIa5s/hqdefault.jpg


[03-May-19 04:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
antifa tried to buy guns from someone named Cobra Commander
we truly live in clown world.
are they going to buy from Destro next?


[03-May-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk your YT talking head bullshit


[03-May-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.officer.com/investigations/news/21078318/feds-investigating-alleged-armed-disruption-attempt-at-border

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Feds Investigating Alleged Armed Disruption Attempt at Border
A Dec. 18, 2018, document from the FBI, obtained by the Union-Tribune, specifies an alleged plan for activists to purchase guns from a “Mexico-based cartel associate known as Cobra Commander,” or Ivan Riebeling.
https://cdn.officer.com/files/base/cygnus/ofcr/image/2019/04/16x9/960w/US_NEWS_IMMIGRANTS_OUTDOOR_CAMP_5_LA.5cc72ef13eb0f.jpg


[03-May-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Use actual sources


[03-May-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an investigation into potential conspiracy to buy weapons from Mexican cartels to stage an armed uprising at the border


[03-May-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, this doesn't make sense, as the article points out.


[03-May-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be far easier to buy weapons in the US than from cartels in Mexico.


[03-May-19 04:36 AM] Honahue#0656
That is literally what cartels do


[03-May-19 04:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Give some guy without a record a bunch of cash, go to a few Dicks Sporting Goods and buy a handful of ARs


[03-May-19 04:36 AM] Mikey#7286
antifa is bad, no shit, don't need a YT talking head talking for 12 minutes about it


[03-May-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i'm all for spontaneous and semi-spontaneous worker uprisings in the bakuninite sense of the term, but sometimes i feel like some instances of resistance aren't good decisions to begin with


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Antifa isn't bad, Mikey


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is likely fabricated.


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Antifa hasn't actually murdered anyone


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inb4 bike lock


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Antifa has cause some property damage at worse


[03-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes no sense and the targets happen to be a lot of anti-Trump protestors and journalists.


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the kind of thing that reeks of "these people oppose our policy, let's investigate them for a conspiracy to fight us"


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
let's not pretend they're a group of perfect little people who just want to peacefully get their agenda across


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Honahue#0656
And made Nazi lay awake at night in fear of E G G S


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
*You* would be arrested for filing a false police report, but if law enforcement itself did the fabrication, there's no process to stop them.


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We don't claim they're peaceful?


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
they might not be bad but they aren't good either


[03-May-19 04:38 AM] Mikey#7286
well idk it seems like some people seem to think they are


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you need to stop latching onto bullshit of that form


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not?


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't accept any statement that any group is perfectly good


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the flipside is


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not accepting that


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
at all


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't blow up about how others seem to be saying any group is perfectly good


[03-May-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You appear to hav done false dichotomy


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deciding antifa is bad because they aren't perfectly good.


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm just saying I've seen some people say they're peaceful, not that I believe them


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What some people say *doesn't matter*


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like saying Twilicorn is bad because some fans love it.


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Honahue#0656
They have a right to defend themselves too, the alt right has actually killed people Antifa hasn't


[03-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guilt by association and false dichotomy are like the main propaganda tools.


[03-May-19 04:41 AM] Mikey#7286
i agree, the alt right is far worse


[03-May-19 04:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I've seen the violence on video.  no matter your view of antifas stated sreasons they've done more damage and harm than good.


[03-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In these culture wars, your best bet is to assume everyone's shitty, but that few are actually really planning to shoot people.


[03-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting people isn't a popular thing in modern culture (unless you're committing suicide in the US 🇺🇸 🔫 )


[03-May-19 04:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean we've have like 3 shootings in as many days


[03-May-19 04:42 AM] Mikey#7286
i do assume everyone is shiity


[03-May-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, best bet on this is


[03-May-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
some shitstirrers sent in "tips" consisting of utter BS


[03-May-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an attempt to get rid of people they disagreed with politically


[03-May-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
then law enforcement resources got wasted on this


[03-May-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now the alt right wants the court of public opinion to rule without any evidence


[03-May-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't listen to YT talking heads.


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
how about stop linking them period


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would be good.


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
no one is going to click on the videos


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That guy didn't even put his sources in the description, as always


[03-May-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
just the usual hashtags and boilerplate


[03-May-19 04:45 AM] Mikey#7286
every political talking head is shit


[03-May-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who don't cite their sources generally do so because they don't want you to know all the info, or how little there actually is.


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also I'm pretty sure Tim Pool is the guy currently in a legal battle over the rights to the name Subverse - that adult game that's coming out on Steam


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Mikey#7286
and I find it funny that guy in particular keeps being linked despite the fact that obviously no one clicks on it


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't tell me Google and tech "elite" don't support the right wing


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I clikked it solely to get the search terms to figure out his source.


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I linked the source.


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Google single handedly pays so many right wingers it is absurd


[03-May-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From YT income


[03-May-19 04:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i'll watch talking heads for gaming news like yongyea and stuff but not politics


[03-May-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't even like them for gaming news


[03-May-19 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wouldn't even do that, either


[03-May-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's always some bullshit about being furious about going off of little info about the devs or publishersl


[03-May-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tech "elite" is actually full of populists who pulled themselves up from the bottom


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing but outrage


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're just hated because they are left wing


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Mikey#7286
not really neb


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
no, really


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A billionaire is only bad if they support left wing causes


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(this is where Tim got his start, as well - and had beef with FOW studio *before* they came out with a game with the same name as Tim's "brand")


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Mikey#7286
they cite links to things and talk about the latest scumbag move publishers pull


[03-May-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, a lot of the "EGS is spyware" stuff is from YTers repeating what redditors with no understanding of webapp-based software design said


[03-May-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EGS is the equivalent of the rich kid on the playground who pays people to be his friend


[03-May-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
EGS is shitty, but not by being spyware.


[03-May-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
40% owned by Tencent


[03-May-19 04:49 AM] Mikey#7286
like, Yongyea is pretty impartial and talks about what predatory practices EA or bethesda have pulled


[03-May-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
40% owned by CPC


[03-May-19 04:50 AM] Mikey#7286
etc.


[03-May-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure they'll eventually pull a Huawei


[03-May-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huawei puts backdoors on things for the CPC


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
tencent Epic buyout when


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
it'll happen sooner or later


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Winnie the Pooh flossing on a pile of money


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Its, that's offensive the Chinese president


[03-May-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
or whatever it was


[03-May-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People pretend that anything other than cheap prices attract people


[03-May-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People actually switched their Nintendo accounts to Argentina to save like, $2 a game


[03-May-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That got changed


[03-May-19 05:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well whether or not you like or agree with the things I share I still plan on sharing both articles and videos that I feel are relevant or are worth generating discussion about


[03-May-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
sharing articles is fine


[03-May-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
please think twice before posting the videos though


[03-May-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
we prefer written secondary sources


[03-May-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
not tertiary sources or external analyses


[03-May-19 05:04 AM] Mikey#7286
stop posting that tim guy, no one is going to watch him


[03-May-19 05:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[03-May-19 05:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I prefer the latter as for conveyance and not usually behind a paywall or some slow loading site.


[03-May-19 05:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I do share articles from time to time though


[03-May-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
we have many tools for bypassing paywalls and slow-loading sites


[03-May-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're really concerned, put the site into archive.fo and then copy the archive link here


[03-May-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
that way we can all see it and it loads instantly


[03-May-19 05:05 AM] Mikey#7286
so you prefer listening to some random dude drone for 15 minutes about something you can research in a minute on an article


[03-May-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
also


[03-May-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I can read a _lot_ faster than I can listen


[03-May-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
ref: https://archive.fo/

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archive.fo


[03-May-19 05:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
given I both work and go to college I can't always spend a lot of time searching multiple news sites for a story. Sometimes I do but not always. But hey that's the beauty of a chat like this. A person can post a vid or article and someone else in the discussion can always share more articles and information to support or refute the initial thing shared.

thanks for the link though I might use it at some point


[03-May-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
... it takes more time to watch one of those videos than it does to search for a secondary source


[03-May-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
you could find 20 secondary sources in the time it takes to watch one of those videos


[03-May-19 05:09 AM] Mikey#7286
also, i've said it before and I'll say it again, the outrage text he shoves in every title is off-putting as hell


[03-May-19 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
title and intro


[03-May-19 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless you're already a fan that guy is immediately off-putting within 5 seconds of every video


[03-May-19 05:55 AM] Torr#5078
:dab:

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Sven 🛸🇸🇪 (@svenskidentitet)
https://twitter.com/svenskidentitet/status/1123582285494804482?s=19
Wow, nu lugnar vi ner oss lite 😮
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[03-May-19 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get out with this fake shit


[03-May-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who what where when why how


[03-May-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, at least a little context, yeah?


[03-May-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
@WingbeatPony https://mobile.twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1123551624222388224


[03-May-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The real tweet


[03-May-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Greta's a 16 year old climate change activist and comrade


[03-May-19 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So who shooped it 'cause it looks like Sven's reaction is as though he wasn't the one who put those words there


[03-May-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sven's a fascist so he's probably boosting the signal and feiging shock. Seriously, scan through his tweets. He has all the marks of a crypto.


[03-May-19 06:18 AM] Torr#5078
^ :blep:


[03-May-19 06:18 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/melbourne-cafe-handsome-her-closing-two-years-after-introducing-man-tax/news-story/cf19a4e85e46981815e498e2d3d43ed0

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Vegan cafe closes after ‘man tax’
A vegan cafe in Melbourne’s north, which “became the punching bag of Melbourne” after introducing an 18 per cent “man tax”, is closing down so its owner can pursue some “hands-on” work.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/459d6b9e5e1d993de601826cd6e34cac?width=650


[03-May-19 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm shocked! Well, not that shocked.


[03-May-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
it should be illegal to charge people more for their gender


[03-May-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is.


[03-May-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could've been sued to shit.


[03-May-19 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
(this was more a jab at suggestions to a "pink tax")


[03-May-19 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-75-florida-man

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Citations Needed Podcast
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-75-florida-man
Episode 75: The Trouble with 'Florida Man'
“Naked Florida man revealed on video sneaking into restaurant and munching on ramen.” “Florida man broke into jewelry store, cut himself on glass and bled all over everything, police say.” “Florida ma
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[03-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQTcfk5Bmw

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQTcfk5Bmw
The truth behind the TV show Cops
The longest-running reality show in The US. Join the Video Lab! http://bit.ly/video-lab Subscribe to the "Running From Cops" podcast: https://www.topic.com/r...
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[03-May-19 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dw police have full censorship power over the show


[03-May-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
all of the footage shown on cops is pre-approved by law enforcement to be suitable to show to the public


[03-May-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's always presented itself as "raw footage"


[03-May-19 11:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
If you want to see real cops in action visit liveleak


[03-May-19 03:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"RAW FOOTAGE but we have to make sure that it's appropriate for viewing otherwise your mom will get mad at us :CCC"


[03-May-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/29ddf1e95c814f90890a4fd94ccf5ba1

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Barr besieged by allegations he's being Trump's protector
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr portrayed himself as an apolitical elder statesman at his confirmation hearing. He declared he'd rather resign than be asked to fire special counsel...
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[03-May-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d8de98f7d44e47f88e0716404649250b

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Klobuchar releases $100B substance abuse, mental health plan
CHICAGO (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar has released a plan to spend $100 billion over a decade to improve mental health care and fight substance abuse, an issue the...
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[03-May-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1124062156989902883

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Jair M. Bolsonaro (@jairbolsonaro)
https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1124062156989902883
Muito obrigado pela homenagem! Belo anime! 👍🏻 (autor desconhecido)
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[03-May-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually governing the country 👎
Sharing anime versions of himself on twitter 👍


[03-May-19 04:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like Bolsonaro's got his priorities straight


[03-May-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the trump administration: brazillion branch


[03-May-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what Bolsonaro's stand power is. A retired military general that has the power of sucking all of the opponent's money into his bank account?


[03-May-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what song would it be named after


[03-May-19 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
What did I just read? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1124348449154007043?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1124348449154007043?s=21
We can all agree that AMERICA is now #1. We are the ENVY of the WORLD — and the best is yet to come!
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[03-May-19 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Do you mean jealous of the world


[03-May-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, he;s playing the america is #1 card...


[03-May-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what place is hiring people at $27.77 an hour


[03-May-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bull fucking shit


[03-May-19 06:31 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah I want to work there


[03-May-19 06:31 PM] illumnious#7938
It is bullshit


[03-May-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market means shit to an overall economy


[03-May-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s jsut a place where rich people hand money to other rich people for beign rich people


[03-May-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesn;t feed money tot he economy, it doesnt pay workers so thye can circulate money through the economy, it just makes big dragon hoard piles for rich people to sit on


[03-May-19 06:36 PM] illumnious#7938
BULLFUCKINGSHIT https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1124116620979445761?s=21

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[03-May-19 06:36 PM] illumnious#7938
SHUT UP


[03-May-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you trump you are a fruad


[03-May-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/watergate-had-the-nixon-tapes-mueller-had-annie-donaldsons-notes/2019/05/03/d2b1bc62-66b5-11e9-8985-4cf30147bdca_story.html


[03-May-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
>The scribe keeping track of the president’s actions was Annie Donaldson, McGahn’s chief of staff, a loyal and low-profile conservative lawyer who figures in the Mueller report as one of the most important narrators of internal White House turmoil.


[03-May-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
>Her daily habit of documenting conversations and meetings provided the special counsel’s office with its version of the Nixon White House tapes: a running account of the president’s actions, albeit in sentence fragments and concise descriptions.


[03-May-19 07:03 PM] Litrojia#0612
>rasmussen


[03-May-19 07:03 PM] Litrojia#0612
fake poll


[03-May-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is so afraid of being called a fraud, all he uses is fraudulant data


[03-May-19 07:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fox-news-don-mcgahn-should-not-testify-2019-5

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fox-news-don-mcgahn-should-not-testify-2019-5
'This is all. It's done.': Trump doesn't want former White House c...
Congress "shouldn't be looking anymore," Trump said in a Fox News interview on Thursday night, adding: "This is all. It's done."
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[03-May-19 07:14 PM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump doesn't want former White House counsel Don McGahn to testify before Congress.


[03-May-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, if anyone can wreck his ass in congress it's the fucking note taker who sits in on all his meetings


[03-May-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope don mcghan walks into congress and wrecks shop


[03-May-19 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The thing that got Mcghan fired is what saved Trump at the time which was refusing to fire meuller on Trump's orders as well


[03-May-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Denying a Congressional subpoena huh


[03-May-19 08:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[03-May-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[03-May-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's nothing on the BBC that suggests they're saying that


[03-May-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If anything, the opposite


[03-May-19 08:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They have been suggesting that seat loss by the 2 main parties are punishment votes for not delivering Brexit. If that was true people would have been voting for UKIP.


[03-May-19 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where


[03-May-19 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/hansalexrazo/status/1124116000297967616


[03-May-19 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some Mexican hug AMLO for me please


[03-May-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Worked for Portugal


[03-May-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, Portugal doesn't neighbor a war hungry nation of barbarians


[03-May-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[03-May-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know if I would say that spain is not that


[03-May-19 09:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Radio 4. They are always asking those kind of leading questions. This is also the Conservative and Labour party take on the elections.


[03-May-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The military is extremely unpopular in Spain


[03-May-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And extremely underfunded


[03-May-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There could be an alien invasion of literal baby eaters, and Spain as a whole would still be all "military intervention is unwarranted, they've barely killed a million of us"


[03-May-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where does it come from you think?


[03-May-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No way is it Franco still


[03-May-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It comes from two decades of socialist funded and approved text books and racist/separatist autonomous educational system that paint Spain as nazis ever since the catholic kings


[03-May-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain is white guilt personified


[03-May-19 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The mere concept of pride in anything that happened before Franco kicked the bucket is equated to fascism even by the right wing


[03-May-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You teach history, not pride


[03-May-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
pride cometh before the fall


[03-May-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
pride :nut:s before the fall

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[03-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+16%3A18&version=KJV

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Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 16:18 - King James Version
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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[03-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
huh


[03-May-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the h in haughty used to be silent


[03-May-19 09:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Spanish glory died with the Second Republic anyways.


[03-May-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/442053-florida-legislature-passes-compromise-criminal-justice-reform-bill

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Florida legislature passes criminal justice reform bill
Florida's state House of Representatives on Friday passed a 296-page criminal justice reform bill on Friday, the last full day of the legislative session.
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[03-May-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The bill, dubbed the "Florida First Step Act" after the similarly named national criminal justice bill that President Trump signed into law earlier this year, makes it easier for felons to get professional licenses, permits state attorneys to determine whether juvenile cases should be taken up in adult courts and lessens or gets rid of criminal penalties tied to driver’s license suspensions. The bill also raises the "threshold" theft amount at which felony charges can be imposed to $750 from $300, according to The Times. 

The bill's House sponsor told the Tampa Bay Times that the bill's goal is to make the state's criminal justice system fairer. 

“Our goal… is to make sure we have the fairest, most just criminal justice system in the country and today we take a large step in that direction,” said State Rep. Paul Renner (R).


[03-May-19 10:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
I forget, but did they or did they not go through with restoring voting rights to felons?


[03-May-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they likely did not


[03-May-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only 2 states that allow felony voting is vermont, and maine


[03-May-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/05/02/florida-gop-moves-to-rein-in-felon-voting-rights-1005333

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Florida GOP moves to rein in felon voting rights
The Republican-controlled Senate voted 22-17 along party lines to pass the bill.
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[03-May-19 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
>Republicans insisted the move was a response to vague wording in a voter-approved amendment to rescind a Civil War-era rule denying former convicts the right to vote. But Democrats viewed the effort with suspicion, calling it an effort to blunt the potential political impact of an entire class of new voters.


[03-May-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
>In November, more than more than 5 million Floridians cast ballots for Amendment 4, which restored voting rights to released prisoners once they served their sentences, as long as they had not been convicted of murder or a serious sex offense.


[03-May-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
they did pass it


[03-May-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
but now the republicans are voting to limit it


[03-May-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
florida is a seriously fucked up place where you can have the people vote for a thing that they want and then immediately have their own elected politicians limit that thing


[03-May-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
>Legislators, who before the amendment passed had refused to address the question of disenfranchised ex-felons, quickly weighed in, crafting a bill that required offenders to pay all restitution owed to victims as well as fees or fines imposed by the court in order to be eligible to vote.


[03-May-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They paid their dues


[03-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow removing silent Hs has happened so much now that younger Brits pronounce H with an H in it.


[03-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
HEICH


[03-May-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I mean "younger" as in under 40


[03-May-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
not sure if haughty or audi


[03-May-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/441963-teacher-union-president-says-there-is-too-much-fixation-on-testing-in-us

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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/441963-teacher-union-president-says-there-is-too-much-fixation-on-testing-in-us
Teacher union president bemoans 'fixation' on testing in US classrooms
The president of the American Federation of Teachers, Randi Weingarten, told Hill.TV on Friday that there is too much of a fixation on testing and data reporting in American classrooms.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/teacherclassroomstudents01272017getty.jpg


[03-May-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
what if the reason why we have such an absurd amount of testing in the US is specifically because the data is being sold for a massive profit


[03-May-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
more testing = more data = more profit


[03-May-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

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[03-May-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow you're not wrong


[03-May-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
That is the reason


[03-May-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is exactly the reason


[03-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with so much testing is it leaves no time for learning so they arent gettign the testing results they want


[03-May-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they just increase the amount of testign thinkign that will change things but it only makes shit worse


[03-May-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne there's the legislators who are actively trying to make the school system worse by overloading the testing


[03-May-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305
Christians are 'most persecuted group'
The foreign secretary attacks "political correctness" as report warns the religion could "disappear".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11235/production/_106779107_f351efbe-e2a6-48da-b277-0ed48402458f.jpg


[03-May-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[03-May-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck christians honestly


[03-May-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We're dying! We blame the fact that we aren't allowed to be pillaging assholes to anyone who isn't us!"


[03-May-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], in terms of raw numbers of people being persecuted, christianity is indeed the most persecuted group (in the middle east)


[03-May-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah well the middle east is a shithole


[03-May-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
granted, that doesn't really translate well to western christanity


[03-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
because middle eastern christian demonimations are much more colorful and diverse


[03-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
while western christianity has been pretty homogenized


[03-May-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuFaLoAhGs

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Unheard Voices of West Asia and North Africa
A video about the plight of indigenous minorities in WANA and the Eurocentric viewpoints by which we analyse them. Content Warning: Scenes/Images of Genocide...
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[03-May-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
took me a bit to find it, but it's entirely about the topic


[03-May-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
basically, a lot of leftists do the same thing when presented with the idea of christianity being an "oppressed" denomination that conservatives do when presented with the idea of minorities being an "oppressed" denomination


[03-May-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
whataboutism


[03-May-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently it was muslims genociding christians that created the word "genocide" to begin with


[03-May-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh


[04-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
basically, humans are notoriously casually shitty towards minority groups


[04-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't matter what race, what ethnicity, what religion


[04-May-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
same thing's happening all over the planet


[04-May-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
in africa, in asia, in the americas, in europe


[04-May-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
and leftists seem to be either too afraid or too apathetic to take up the "stop being shitty towards all minority groups" flag


[04-May-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
only "stop being shitty towards western minority groups"


[04-May-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
and leaving the rest to rot


[04-May-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
this video demonstrates a massive blind spot rife with cognitive dissonance in the left's collective psyche


[04-May-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
and I don't think the western left is collectively willing to address the issue


[04-May-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
wooow, apparently in 2014, the kurds forcibly disarmed and then abandoned assyrians and yazidis as ISIS was approaching


[04-May-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
and left them to die


[04-May-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism increases with fear


[04-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
damn, that really sucks, there's literally no group on this planet that will stand up for everyone, not just some specific group


[04-May-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism inherently requires being shitty to some kind of minority group.


[04-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
leftists are ignoring this


[04-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives are causing this


[04-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
fucking retarded rape monkeys


[04-May-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leftists are inundated with conservatives and shrinking support.


[04-May-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the problem.


[04-May-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
When fear runs rampant, nobody can say "giv the immigrants a chance, guys"


[04-May-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be at most "maybe we shouldn't kill as many of them"


[04-May-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
watch the video


[04-May-19 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
also, last I checked, leftism is on the rise, at least in the US


[04-May-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sort of


[04-May-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
leftism is mainly on the rise by the shrinking middle


[04-May-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism was mainly held in place in policy by the middle being apathetic


[04-May-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism is always the US' default state, really


[04-May-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and leftism is mainly gaining by the elderly assholes dying.


[04-May-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
>Many Assyrian Christians voted for Trump because Clinton was expected to invade Syria and attack Assad, who they see as a defender


[04-May-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
he's only a "defender" because the groups that the left support in the US (like the kurds) are attacking (or refusing to defend) assyrians


[04-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
"When she came around, she found it quite disheartening that whenever she would talk to her fellow leftists about her history, about her family struggle, it would often result in dismissal, being told it's too complicated, or even just being accused of being a troll who's trying to suck attention away from other issues."


[04-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
"she" being an assyrian immigrant


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental trouble is there are so many subtle distinctions in the middle east that it's not really practical to make any of the particular ones a priority.


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
aaaand there it is


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
it's too complicated


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it really is


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to crafting policy ideas, they hav to be simple by their very nature


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
people can't hold a whole concept of what the middle east is when it comes to what to do about it.


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
it hasn't stopped leftists before


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
why is it stopping you now?


[04-May-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way, Europeans can't hold a whole idea of what Florida is


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, right now, the left is barely able to get progress on internal matters


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's going to be a long, long time before it can really fixate on what happens to even the kurds


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
the left's whole point, its whole reason for existence, is to go after these issues, not ignore them


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you can't fight every battle


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
to ignore them is to become just another pseudoconservative reactionary


[04-May-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to pikk and choose


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
at the expense of another minority group? fuck that so hard


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you ever heard the concept of opportunity cost?


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Political power isn't unlimited


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a resource


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
every thing you spend it on has a cost in what you aren't able to spend it on.


[04-May-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
you're applying an economic concept to a sociological problem


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is valid


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
people aren't currency


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, politics uses resources


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
or shouldn't be treated as such


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
opportunity cost isn't specific to currency


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Time, money, people's ability to care, ability to create legislation


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
all of these things are, in the end, finite for a given period of time


[04-May-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't fight every moral battle at once.


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
however, that's not even the topic being argued to begin with


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just not possible.


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, the left doesn't want christians killed in the middle east


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wants the middle east to all get along


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
so stop ignoring and marginalizing them


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just it doesn't really hav the opportunity to deal with that particular issue very often


[04-May-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
that's the point


[04-May-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
the left in the US is collectively doing the same thing that the conservatives are doing to muslims, even if not on the same level of attack that conservatives do


[04-May-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's a passive marginalization


[04-May-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
which forces these groups to instead put their trust in the republicans, even though republicans will actively hurt them


[04-May-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
assyrian refugees are being deported nearly as much as muslims are by trump's administration, even though US assyrian citizens largely voted for trump


[04-May-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left simply doesn't hav the resources to not do this.


[04-May-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the left was actually in power, it could think about doing it, and would most likely allow in christian refugees.


[04-May-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This btw is a common dynamic


[04-May-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right hurts minority groups, but makes them support it anyways because they don't see the left working for them.


[04-May-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the left *is* trying to do something for them.


[04-May-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor rural areas are getting crushed by Trump's bad policy and that's not going to stop them from voting Republican.


[04-May-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, it may increase it.


[04-May-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who are scared and hav trouble finding work/food/housing tend to support conservatives who then make it harder to get those things.


[04-May-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they agree with the social policies because it distracts them


[04-May-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it's our small town not providing for its people and being close minded/addicted to opiates that keeps us poor


[04-May-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it must be the coastal elite at fault.


[04-May-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Much like how the left likes minorities until they vote against them, the right likes rich people until they disagree with their politics


[04-May-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why the Kochs and owners of Walmart are fine but Soros and Hollywood actors are evil


[04-May-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
this last section entirely refutes the idea that the left should abandon its principles in favor of some kind of homogenized "leftist culture" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuFaLoAhGs&t=1224>


[04-May-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
I highly encourage you to watch it


[04-May-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
because I've never seen a more concise refutation of the idea that the left should "pick its battles in favor of the bigger picture" when the effort they'd need to put in to reap the benefits is minimal


[04-May-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The left needs to stop being afraid of being called uncouth


[04-May-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Adopt what the right does


[04-May-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
that's a big point in the whole video, that the left doesn't want to say things the right are saying just because the right are saying it, even if the right is saying it just in order to boost votes/popularity/whatever


[04-May-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
and not because they actually plan on acting on what they're saying


[04-May-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
like apparently the EU used to be massively unpopular for leftists because of its undemocratic implementation


[04-May-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
but because conservatives started saying they want to get rid of the EU because of "muh borders", leftists have been forced to defend the EU's existence just because conservatives wanted to get rid of the EU for conservative reasons


[04-May-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like


[04-May-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a Democratic president who shat on rural America like Republicans do to urban America


[04-May-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48141017

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Trump and Putin talk of 'Russian Hoax'
The two agreed there was "no collusion" between the Trump campaign and Russia, said the White House.
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[04-May-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly that just makes the collusion mroe fucking obvious

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[04-May-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russian bots are easy to spot online


[04-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to pikk your battles


[04-May-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just feel bad for the ones who are paid to shitpost on local news media pages


[04-May-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or shitpost about Star Wars and Marvel


[04-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, the deal with the EU is that fundamentally, conservatives are trying to burn it down in a way that doesn't fix any of what the left wanted


[04-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one thing for the EU to hav some bad procedures and setup and implement regressive taxes like VAT


[04-May-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's another to completely demolish it and end up with protectionist, nativist (racist) bullshit while maintaining regressive taxes and undemocratic gov't


[04-May-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
that's basically what I said lol


[04-May-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't because the conservatives want it


[04-May-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because them getting it would shit all over everything the left wants


[04-May-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the left said the customer service sukked, so the right said "okay we'll torch it and your house too"


[04-May-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they're reactionaries.


[04-May-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole intent is to burn to the ground anything the left has built.


[04-May-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing the left rag on its own construction a bit means they start throwing molotovs in the confusion.


[04-May-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/49a500227b0240279b66da63078abb5a

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Judges declare Ohio's congressional map unconstitutional
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[04-May-19 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Michigan did this too, maybe might be much harder to win those 2 states in 2020


[04-May-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow I watched another one of that guy's vids, on why East Germany was poor, and the vast majority of it was obvious Soviet Apologism


[04-May-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He completely focused on initial conditions and initial growth under the Soviets and how THE WEST WAS SPYING AND MILITARIZING


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And at one point went on a tangent about how the Soviets spending 70% of their research money on nukes was..."because they had to"


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
okay, but that doesn't invalidate the point he made in the video I linked


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think this guy's definition of the left is, like, communists


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, but I don't think he's addressing things fairly


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
he claims the EU is a conservative institution


[04-May-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the left always hated it for being a big gov't


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
he's definitely addressing things fairly because I never realized that blind spot existed to begin with


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this makes no sense unless "the left" = "communists and anarchists"


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
and no, he said that the left hated it for being undemocratic


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU isn't conservative, it's rather capitalist, but it was never outright conservative


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what he meant


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
and it is undemocratic


[04-May-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
only 1/3rd of it is democratically elected


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was saying it was undemocratic by virtue of being a large gov't


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
the other 2/3rds are appointed by the member states


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's only undemocratic in the most strict sense


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
(of the difference between a democracy and a republic)


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be like if the state legislatures in the US appointed the senators and president


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he was indicating that it was conservative because it aggregrated countries together


[04-May-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US *did* do that


[04-May-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
and the judicial branch, for that matter


[04-May-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electing senators is a 20th century thing


[04-May-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
the states do de facto choose the president with the electoral college


[04-May-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
since only certain states (and even only certain regions of certain states) actually matter for winning the presidency


[04-May-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
basically, you've been arguing against republicanism for awhile, but now you're saying it's okay because it's the EU? that doesn't make any sense


[04-May-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[04-May-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying that a Republic is ideal as a gov't form, I'm saying that preferring Republic vs. Democracy isn't really a liberal/conservative issue


[04-May-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the size of a gov't isn't really one either


[04-May-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he is portraying it as one


[04-May-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he is misrepresenting politics by his own personal lense


[04-May-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
which appears to favor Leninism and anarchism


[04-May-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, there's a sizeable number of leftists ignoring or even flat out attacking people of a marginalized denomination because that marginalized denomination isn't marginalized in the west


[04-May-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
and is even a part of the denomination doing the marginalization


[04-May-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think his approach is overstating the issue


[04-May-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He seems to believe it implicitly racist to not devote a shitton of time/policy towards them


[04-May-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the fact of the matter is their issues are relatively remote from the main problems facing the western countries the left is actually in.


[04-May-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This makes a lot of sense under a personal viewpoint focused on the Soviets


[04-May-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they mingled a lot more with the middle east and hav a main religion more closely tied with those Christian denominations


[04-May-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leftists calling Trump's thing a "muslim ban" isn't because the left ignores that Christians exist in the middle east


[04-May-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because Trump sees the ban himself as a way to target muslims, and there's little the left can do if we ignore racist intent.


[04-May-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic "but one guy isn't X, so I'm not targeting X by doing something I intentionally designed to mostly hit X" argument.


[04-May-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no good solution to help them, in the end. The best thing to do would be to influence the policy of middle eastern countries.


[04-May-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's hard to support in general.


[04-May-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, the second-best is to try to fight conservatives when they try to ban all people coming from those countries in their efforts to hit muslims.


[04-May-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in theory one day we could spread a culture of tolerance to the Middle East, but that's sloooow.


[04-May-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reality of the situation is that for now, nothing can really be done to stop there being a diaspora of religious minorities with Islam being co-opted as a tool for cultural submission and national identity.


[04-May-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iraq has maybe 5 Jews left etc.


[04-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
no, he didn't say it was racist


[04-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't even say we should devote a shitton of time/policy towards them


[04-May-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
and just because the issues are remove from "western society" doesn't mean they should be ignored


[04-May-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He indicated as such, and he indicated that calling Trump's action a "muslim ban" was part of the left being bad.


[04-May-19 03:30 AM] Honahue#0656
well unfortunatly that's mostly the west's fault. if they hadn't been split up arbitrarily or had democratically elected government destablized for our oil interests it'd be unlikely that they'd have the kind of base for extremists


[04-May-19 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656
but it did happens so the only thing that could be done is to allow them self determination now and help the dispora/refugees that don't want to live in those countries


[04-May-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
nothing in his video indicated that we should suddenly drop everything we're doing and suddenly start pandering to a specific marginalized group


[04-May-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
just that we should stop excluding them because they're a part of the denomination which is traditionally oppressive in the west


[04-May-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they aren't being excluded


[04-May-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody on the left is cheering because assyrians are being deported


[04-May-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
they're being ignored


[04-May-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
and they see the conservatives going on and on about "protecting christianity" when they only mean "western christianity" which doesn't need protecting


[04-May-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
so the wander over there because the left is ignoring christian marginalization


[04-May-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left is never going to get Egyptian Christians, btw


[04-May-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
his example is that the friend he collaborated with to make the video (who is assyrian) is often called a troll when she tries to bring up christian marginalization in the middle east


[04-May-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
though usually she's just dismissed as irrelevant


[04-May-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left in the west is completely alien to middle eastern politics.


[04-May-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
which is an incredibly easy way to push someone away and towards the only other option


[04-May-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right was always their only option


[04-May-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're talking about people who come from cultures where "kill all _" is normal chatter.


[04-May-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left isn't hemhorraging them from ignoring them.


[04-May-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right is absorbing them because ideals align.


[04-May-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left tries to and wants to do stuff for them.


[04-May-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is always ignored when it talks about them.


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only time they're really talked about seriously is when the right wants to use them to say Christianity is oppressed.


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
except I didn't even know about the "christians being the most oppressed group" thing until that video


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
so obviously something's going seriously wrong if no one's talking about it


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without actually specifying where they're talking about, in order to trikk people into thinking the west is oppressing Christians.


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
that's usually something that leftists jump into gung ho about


[04-May-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It gets brought up from time to time


[04-May-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's usually in the form of the right saying LOOK LOOK, OPPRESSED CHRISTIANS! Now let's kill abortion!


[04-May-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
the general reaction of the left in the west to these marginalized denominations complaining about their issues is "So?"


[04-May-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right doesn't actually go on about what to do about them.


[04-May-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left wants to help but is never allowed to really seriously consider it.


[04-May-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right doesn't like the left talking about helping people in the Middle East.


[04-May-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
with a sizable number ridiculing them for suggesting that the "great and glorious christianity" could ever possibly be marginalized


[04-May-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
mainly because they don't realize that christanity isn't some homogenous global force of oppression, it's only really been a force of oppression in europe and the americas


[04-May-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/world/asia/north-korea-missile.html

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By CHOE SANG-HUN
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North Korea Launches Short-Range Missile, South Says
The missile was fired on Saturday morning, according to the South Korean military, which provided few details.
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[04-May-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
trump's "greatest" international achievement


[04-May-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kelly-joins-board-of-caliburn-international-company-operating-largest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/

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John Kelly joins board of company operating largest shelter for un...
Caliburn International, which runs a massive shelter in Homestead, Florida, confirmed Friday that the former White House chief of staff has joined its board
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[04-May-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-May-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw-U1uwniIo/

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WorldStar Hip Hop // WSHH on Instagram: “‪#SnoopDogg speaks on...
51.8k Likes, 1,545 Comments - WorldStar Hip Hop // WSHH (@worldstar) on Instagram: “‪#SnoopDogg speaks on Facebook & IG banning Minister Louis Farrakhan from being posted on their…”
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[04-May-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/louis-farrakhan-speech/index.html

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Nation of Islam leader Farrakhan delivers anti-Semitic speech
Minister Louis Farrakhan engaged in a series of anti-Semitic remarks on Sunday.
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[04-May-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, snoop dogg is either wildly misinformed, completely ignorant, or incredibly antisemitic to believe that farrakhan didn't deserve to be banned


[04-May-19 04:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Because he black. disappointed in snoop right now.


[04-May-19 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"they can't ban us all" is the sort of thing a moderator lives to hear


[04-May-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd laff so hard if I got to be the guy that banned Snoop Dogg for being an idiot.


[04-May-19 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1124456093839777792?s=21

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Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet)
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@realDonaldTrump Thank you Mr. President. Now hopefully Facebook will be stripped of its immunity under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act because it is clearly acting as a partisan publisher and not a platform. This is election meddling.
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[04-May-19 04:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afuFaLoAhGs

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Unheard Voices of West Asia and North Africa
A video about the plight of indigenous minorities in WANA and the Eurocentric viewpoints by which we analyse them. Content Warning: Scenes/Images of Genocide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/afuFaLoAhGs/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-May-19 04:39 PM] ononim#8141
time to repost for the euro day crowd :^)


[04-May-19 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jury-Vindicates-Maryland-Man-Accused-of-Attempting-to-Kill-Police-Officer-509409761.html

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Jury Vindicates Md. Man Accused of Attempting to Kill Police
A jury vindicated a Maryland man who for two years swore he was innocent of trying to kill a police officer.
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[04-May-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-trump.html?module=inline

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By CHOE SANG-HUN and MOTOKO RICH
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New North Korea Weapons Test Threatens Trump’s Diplomatic Achiev...
Kim Jong-un’s latest weapons tests signaled that North Korea was escalating its pressure on President Trump to return to the table with a compromise on easing sanctions, analysts said.
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[04-May-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Saturday’s weapons tests were the most serious by the North since the country launched its Hwasong-15 intercontinental ballistic missiles in November 2017. Although North Korea has not gone so far as to renege on its moratorium on nuclear and ICBM tests, which its leader, Kim Jong-un, announced last year, the Saturday launch indicated that Mr. Kim was toying with the idea of lifting the moratorium, analysts said.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly described the moratorium as his biggest achievement on North Korea, citing it as proof that his diplomacy with Mr. Kim has been working. The leaders have met twice: first in Singapore in June and again in Hanoi, Vietnam, in February.

“Today’s provocation means that Kim Jong-un is becoming increasingly pessimistic” that he could work out a settlement with Mr. Trump, said Lee Byong-chol, a North Korea expert at Kyungnam University’s Institute of Far Eastern Studies in Seoul.

“There may be some minor adjustments in the North’s behavior depending on how the U.S. responds, but in the long term, it seems increasingly clear that Kim has decided to go his own way.”


[04-May-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/

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In the U.S. market for human bodies, anyone can sell the donated dead
If you leave your body to science, you may also be donating to commerce: Cadavers and body parts are sold in a thriving, unregulated market where abuses abound.
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[04-May-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-May-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kabscorner/status/1124341448445317121

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🇵🇭Patroklos @ furrypinas 2019 (@KabsCorner)
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don't put Max G on my timeline, thanks. Max G is the current persona of infamously unhireable asshole hotdiggetydemon whose promising career in animation was self-sabotaged by a series of rakes labeled "say something racist" that he kept stepping in.
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[04-May-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can only think of the Pulp Fiction and maybe that Steven Universe drawing


[04-May-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But both are p bad


[04-May-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea what this "say soemthing racist" series is


[04-May-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I only know the guy for his brain dump series and older comedy animations


[04-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
wow, that sonic looks even worse than the original


[04-May-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the Steven Universe stuff


[04-May-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That basically killed his career and everyone within the industry apparently informally has blackballed him


[04-May-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus the Zootopia and Apu stuff plus the Animal Crossing animation


[04-May-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the 2016 summary video but that's not as bad as the other stuff


[04-May-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Wait what did I miss


[04-May-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently every time he makes something popular people point out why exactly he doesn't work in animation


[04-May-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he's known to be racist and now they ensure he will not work in the industry


[04-May-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As the thread said, this was an industry that welcomed Lasseter back and waited for very long to do anything about John K or Chris Savino


[04-May-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And he's worse than that to them supposedly


[04-May-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the steven jewniverse image


[04-May-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/04/william-barr-mueller-trump-road-to-tyranny

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William Barr: is his defence of Trump paving the 'road to tyranny'?
The attorney general stands accused of acting as the president’s personal lawyer rather than a guardian of the constitution
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[04-May-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I actually kinda liked his video on Apu, it made some decent points


[04-May-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though simpsons has too many seasons now anyway, so trying to get rid of the racially accented characters now just leaves thme with less to work with


[04-May-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Zootopia review didn't help


[04-May-19 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not that .MOV was good wholesome humor either


[04-May-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I like his videos :shrugpony:


[04-May-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMMElT61A8

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This is Fine! | Adult Swim
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[04-May-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldn;t expect anything less from adult swim


[04-May-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
.mov was funny as fuck


[04-May-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
edgy but funny


[04-May-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he does make racist stuff


[04-May-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the Internet told me the creator of Steven Universe is a fascist


[04-May-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's not like hardcore racist though


[04-May-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk the Apu stuff and the Zootopia review


[04-May-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't entirely understand why it;s racist for an indian man to run a convenience store


[04-May-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of it is the meta


[04-May-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It introduced American kids to a stereotype that they made fun of Indian Americans with


[04-May-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"thank you come again" etc


[04-May-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one ever gave a shit about how smart Apu was until people pointed out how racist he was for how prominent he was


[04-May-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Cletus comparison isn't close at all because it didn't create anything and he's a minor character at best


[04-May-19 10:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F68l9FozxJ8

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hotdiggedydemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F68l9FozxJ8
THE APU THAT I KNOW - Brain Dump
A lot of people don’t like Apu. But is there another side to him? And what do we know about Apu that hasn’t yet been said? Lets find out! SEXY APU full rez d...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F68l9FozxJ8/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-May-19 10:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if we are talking about the apu vid here it is


[04-May-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless apparently he will never get an animation industry job and was rejected at Nick


[04-May-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh, fair enough


[04-May-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[04-May-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nick finally grew some balls


[04-May-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
No they didn't


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
industry is just scared


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nick is still viacom;s bitch


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Your in favor of a talented person not getting a job?


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he has talent


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also a major liability that looks bad to have.


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont have balls, they jsut have a sponge up their ass


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[04-May-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
he is not going to go off the rails and fukk them over


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not allowing someone to work in industry because they made edgy stuff is horrid


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know Rebecca Sugar drew shota and the origins of The Loud House are fucking disgusting


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
you should be ashamed to say it's good they reject him


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Also if he got a job with any children's networks he woudl probably tone it the fuck down


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is extremely normal for cartoon artists to draw edgy shit


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Industry refusing people who do is very bad for the industry


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think what he drew is racist


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
and harms actual artistic intent


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But I also think there's something else going on here


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I mean look at the creator of invador zim


[04-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, a grudge against him


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he drew very edgy stuff


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney has the porn vault


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and they hired him


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, from what little I've seen of The Loud House, it's not bad


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well it's the origins of it and the creator being shitty that is bad


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's nothing great, but I see no reason to slather hate on it.


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop attaching everyone to their work


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the creator of clarence was also accused of sexual things


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
let people make things dammit.


[04-May-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The creator threatened to ruin women's careers unless they fucked him


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The show was based on a self insert incest comic


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then get the creator to stop being shitty


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
lot's of creators have weird or controversial opinions.


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't attach that to the show


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
or views on things


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's nothing wrong with self insert incest comics


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of my favorite shows on bbc america got canned because the creator was vaguely accused of sexuel misconduct


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let artists be fukking artists


[04-May-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
I seriously think you don't understand the artistic mentality.


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It *requires* being weird and removing some constraints from yourself.


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this media mentality of distancing themselves form people who are vaguely accused of shit is dangerous


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you operate in society's little box, never pushing the boundaries, you never make art.


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything ends up bland and shitty.


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and samey)


[04-May-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you end up with the scooby doo era again


[04-May-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how shows like Steven Universe get created, with the calarts style.


[04-May-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no oen wants the scooby doo era again


[04-May-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't even get *Adventure Time* if everyone operates inside the little box.


[04-May-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Adventure Time was pretty shitty for like the first 3 or 4 seasons, but it never would've gotten better if they toned it down.


[04-May-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where every show was a bland ass scooby doo clone ebcause it was the safe thing to do


[04-May-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Art by its very nature ends up derivative and unoriginal without a monkey throwing wrenches.


[04-May-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
adventure time was really great and grew into soemthing amazing because they let the show grow and took risks


[04-May-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to let the monkeys be monkeys and you hav to giv them some wrenches.


[04-May-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just keep them from throwing their shit onto others near them.


[04-May-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
throwing apu under a bus doesn't make simpsons better it just makes it safer


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And much more boring.


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Simpsons would be next to nothing if it didn't do stuff like kill Ned's wife.


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apu was a personality who broguht life to scenes he was in


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you know the best issues of any Spiderman comic ever made?


[04-May-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
imagine if the quicky mart was run by hans the moleman


[04-May-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter


[04-May-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were ranked in the top 20 comic issues of any Marvel comic, ever


[04-May-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which ones?


[04-May-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Amazing Spider-man volume 1 issues #121 and #122


[04-May-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ones that killed his love interest dead


[04-May-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a no-win scenario


[04-May-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Stan Lee didn't listen properly to a proposal from the writers and just said sure before going on vacation


[04-May-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to read this now


[04-May-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people despised one mroe day because it undid all the growth and heart of the spiderman comic just to undo aunt may's fatal injuries from civil war, because the editor felt "people hate character growth and want to see safe peter in safe high school, no one wants boring grown up interesting peter"


[04-May-19 11:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that was the Editor that felt that way


[04-May-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
JMS the writer was opposed to it but he had no political pull in the office to not write it


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The goal of art is to make people feel things.


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
or stop it being made


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making people feel things requires surprising them.


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
JMS left after OMD


[04-May-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in this case intense rage


[04-May-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Angering your audience is okay.


[04-May-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boring them is not.


[04-May-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jupiter Ascending is a bad movie not because it pisses people off


[04-May-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but because it only just sort of pisses them off by making them bored.


[04-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let me say that while I dislike HDDs racist stuff I do think there's more going on here


[04-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, lots of artists probably draw similar shit and still get jobs


[04-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So saying that him not being hired is good is not entirely my opinion


[04-May-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe Nick just does Thanos hiring


[04-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if he's tried applying with adult swim yet


[04-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they seem like a good fit for him


[04-May-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you read this? http://braythwayt.com/posterous/2014/10/04/i-dont-hire-unlucky-people.html


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he made some powerful enemies


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe apply with Park and Stone at south park


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That combine with those caricatures


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
But never underestimate corporate hiring shittiness.


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To make him unhireable


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[04-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly a lot of high level people in the industry came together and agreed not to hire him


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is odd


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are several creators who were blacklisted by cyma zarghami because she stole their ideas and then threatened a lawsuit if anyone tlaked about it


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if people won't hire someone just because they have a commentary show/review/animated skits then they are thin skin


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel like if it wasn't racism he'd have gotten fucked some other way


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
No I don't think that's about racism


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's most likely about copyright


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it partially is


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They might fear a reprisal from Hasbro


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
that'd drag them in


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also probably about MLP


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[04-May-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah but i was making a point about shitty CEOs


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
MLP just makes you look bad


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and nick


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
MLP is a big moneymaker


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro doesn't even control whether it sends a C&D


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Hasbro/Boulder hire an Aryanne artist


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Patachu?


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro is willing to hire the ones that make MLP stuff


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
but I think it bullies other players into not hiring them


[04-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
in an effort to control MLP content


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro has been getting huge lately, if you havn't noticed.


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mattel is screwed.


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really? I heard it is a creative thing, like working with MLP fan content makes you inferior because  ew bronies


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's very unlikely.


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
I read in that twitter thread that hotdiggedydemon makes people really uncomfortable in person


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That also may be a factor


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He looks intimidating


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Animators tend to be the sorts where you don't judge them for working on cartoons.


[04-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And sometimes likes to play characters


[04-May-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nick also cancels shows at the drop of a hat if they arent isntantly as succesful as spongebob, at least they did under cyma zarghami. I wouldnt want to work for nick


[04-May-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who work on spongebob also arent allowed to talk abotu the behind the scenes which probably means soemthing is up there too


[04-May-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48142181

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Tories lose more than 1,300 councillors
Labour also suffers losses in the local elections, as resurgent Lib Dems gain more than 700 seats.
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[04-May-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tories got owned, Labour got wounded, UKIP died, Lib Dems feasted on the carnage, Greens got scraps


[04-May-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
what are the lib dems?


[04-May-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
I assume they must be something like center-left?


[04-May-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
More like center-right


[04-May-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
wikipedia says center to center-left


[04-May-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're essentially "cut out all this excess gov't and let the EU take over"


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
that sounds more right than they claim to be


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd essentially destroy a lot of QUANGO stuff in favor of local control to save money, while becoming a much more integrated part of the EU


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
just without the nationalism


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You underestimate UK gov't excess


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, the UK all the time funds these non-profits that claim to improve it


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So is Brexit happening


[04-May-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then they turn around and do stuff like go after lolicon instead of actual CP


[04-May-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK gov't puts a lot of authority in bureaucrats it only loosely controls and pays a ton


[04-May-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit is stalled, and these elections indicate people want to kill it.


[04-May-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lib Dems are the only major anti-Brexit party


[04-May-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Labour is "maybe Brexit"


[04-May-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tories are BREXIT BREXIT BREXIT


[04-May-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I told you about the Liberal-Capitalist Stalinism, comrade."

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[04-May-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I told you"


[04-May-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, this is a wake-up call to Labour that they need to stop Brexit


[04-May-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
or they will lose hard


[04-May-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/02/688260025/new-trump-rule-protects-health-care-workers-who-refuse-care-for-religious-reason

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New Trump Rule Protects Health Care Workers Who Refuse Care For Re...
The rule strengthens protections for health care providers who are unwilling to provide services like abortions. Critics say it could put women's health in danger.
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[04-May-19 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jehovah's witness doctor can refuse to transplant blood


[04-May-19 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That will be fun when it happens


[04-May-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of all the rights religion is always the one that makes me think the most


[04-May-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the other rights are based around things you can't control


[04-May-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
muslim or jewish doctor refuses patients who eat pork when?


[04-May-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could be an atheist today, a Muslim tomorrow, a Christian the day after, and then Buddhist


[04-May-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why it makes me think


[04-May-19 11:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Religion sucks and they're all wrong


[04-May-19 11:24 PM] Mikey#7286
There is no god


[04-May-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like, why should religion mean more than your gender


[04-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Short answer is because the constitution says it does


[04-May-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Long answer is the fact of the matter is you can change your religion easily


[04-May-19 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Part of why religion is a farce, also every person is adamant that theirs is ur right one


[04-May-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not really my point


[04-May-19 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[04-May-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell as a concept makes no sense, at least hel in norse mythology just puts you in a block of ice and doesnt try to pretend it;s some form of redemption


[04-May-19 11:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Heaven makes no sense to me either


[04-May-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
angels are humanoidpigeons according to futurama, i support this theory


[04-May-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this rule also means that newborns and other such could be in danger ebcause a doctor just up and decides "Oh this baby belongs to jewish parents, and is on the verge of death. It deserves to die and I shouldn't help it because the parent;s arent of my own faith"


[04-May-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
it has no medical or scientific grounding and will be tossed in court


[04-May-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
even by a court of conservative justices


[04-May-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
unless they're all kavanaughs in which case, continue assaulting women


[05-May-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.reddit.com/r/Trufemcels/hot/

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[05-May-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
the fuck


[05-May-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
femcels?


[05-May-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
female incels?


[05-May-19 12:15 AM] DevField#5162
Oh boyyyy


[05-May-19 12:15 AM] DevField#5162
:twicrazy:


[05-May-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
is this not against reddit's ToS?


[05-May-19 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
We are full circle now


[05-May-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they seem less psychotic than male incels but i onyl looked 10 posts in so all the nasty shit could have been lower


[05-May-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
you can't just ban half the population on site just because of their gender, that's sexist as fuck


[05-May-19 12:18 AM] DevField#5162
Welcome to earth


[05-May-19 12:18 AM] DevField#5162
lol


[05-May-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I've yet to do a deep dive because I also want to go pick up groceries. Then I got money things to stress out over. And a pretty big and complicated piece of art to work on after.


[05-May-19 12:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's not allocating time to shitposting.


[05-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that female incels are a symptom of men not wanting to deal with all the baggage that comes with dating


[05-May-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
when will Vcels be a thing


[05-May-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
What


[05-May-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
I mean like /r/vcels


[05-May-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
No they just think they're ugly


[05-May-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
in japan, men aren't dating women anymore because japanese women are too demanding of japanese men


[05-May-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
I said in another chat I'm sure I can propose an indepth hypothesis using Hegelian recognition and Debord's Society of the Spectacle, creating false images of the ideal person and discouraging those who do not conform to that role. But I'm literally using a glass of milk as a timer  before I go get groceries and I'm almost done.


[05-May-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://time.com/5582034/carbon-tariff-tax-fee-europe-macron/01

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[05-May-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
for whatever reason, japanese women don't have the same absurdly high expectations of non-japanese men


[05-May-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
so they don't ride them super hard


[05-May-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Hot


[05-May-19 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Can someone ride me hard pls

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[05-May-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
sex is gay


[05-May-19 12:26 AM] DevField#5162
hawt


[05-May-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the rich foreigner fantasy


[05-May-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not saying that's the only reason but that's one of the main ones


[05-May-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or "If i marry this person with a different skintone people will look at me as exotic or someone with power"


[05-May-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile marrying a perso of your own nationality/race is seen as normal and lackluster and thye have to work for their respect to prove themselves to you


[05-May-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a weird prevalent thing in a lot of countries


[05-May-19 12:31 AM] DevField#5162
Mm,
"I need a meal ticket and these Westerners are easy ":nut:


[05-May-19 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Cum is not a particularly nutritious meal

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[05-May-19 12:32 AM] DevField#5162
All that aside, I've seen it a bit here even, dudes I've known looking for relationships with women of a different skin tone purely for that reason :ponythinking:


[05-May-19 12:33 AM] DevField#5162
and usually their only standard for a relationship


[05-May-19 12:33 AM] DevField#5162
they wonder why they get fucked over


[05-May-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then they abuse their partners for not beign the right skintone, or body type


[05-May-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or theyw alk into an abusive relationship with open arms


[05-May-19 12:34 AM] DevField#5162
Seems to be more the latter


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] DevField#5162
from what I've seen anyways


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the latter is more common yeah


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what it is with women that want to be abused


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
WHy is this a thing


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if you marry into wealth


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] DevField#5162
Because shit childhood


[05-May-19 12:35 AM] DevField#5162
I would say


[05-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
I'd say because shit evolution


[05-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
there was a point that humans were below what is considered a viable breeding population


[05-May-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
stockholm syndrome is a direct consequence of mass kidnapping and rape being a viable breeding strategy


[05-May-19 12:38 AM] DevField#5162
I can't say I've read too deep into the problem, but every woman I've known that wanted an abusive bf had daddy issues :twicrazy:


[05-May-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Kidnapping used to mean what rape does


[05-May-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
vice versa, rape used to mean kidnapping, even if no sex occurred


[05-May-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
like the rape of persephone


[05-May-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
when hades kidnapped persephone and took her to tartarus


[05-May-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't actually have sex until later (it was "consensual")


[05-May-19 12:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/jeffreyguterman/status/1124385311377776646?s=21

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[05-May-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
the medieval assumption with rape is that there's no way a man wouldn't actually penetrate a girl that they ran off with (or who ran off with the man)


[05-May-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
which was a largely warranted assumption (the whole "burkas for women so men don't rape them" is actually a thing, even though it's a really shitty justification for punishing women for men not being in control of themselves)


[05-May-19 12:43 AM] DevField#5162
Maybe it's because I'm a fag or something but like


[05-May-19 12:43 AM] DevField#5162
In my brief time of denying what I was into


[05-May-19 12:43 AM] DevField#5162
like


[05-May-19 12:43 AM] DevField#5162
Do guys really have that little self control? Like really?


[05-May-19 12:44 AM] DevField#5162
It just doesn't add up to me


[05-May-19 12:44 AM] DevField#5162
but idk.


[05-May-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
when they think they can get away with it, humans in general have hilariously low self-control


[05-May-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's an exception when there's people who actually don't act on every legal base instinct they have


[05-May-19 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
But like


[05-May-19 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
Hm.


[05-May-19 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
I guess I'm not good at understanding other people's situations but


[05-May-19 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
Can you not


[05-May-19 12:45 AM] DevField#5162
:dab:


[05-May-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
there's actually a reason why we have to say "you are not allowed to kill someone"


[05-May-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
as an explicitly defined law


[05-May-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
but then we have to add an asterisk so that people are allowed to kill those trying to kill them


[05-May-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
and that's the angle that pretty much every lawyer goes for, whether it's justified or not


[05-May-19 12:48 AM] DevField#5162
And so what is the presumption then? That people want to murder, or are predisposed to do it eventually? Is it just human nature?


[05-May-19 12:48 AM] DevField#5162
I think I put too much faith in the goodness of others :twismug:


[05-May-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
the presumption is that people will murder if they think they can get away with it


[05-May-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
even the law doesn't completely stop that, but it does at least make it harder to get away with murder


[05-May-19 12:55 AM] DevField#5162
Yeah, of course. I feel like I was brought up with a fairly decent sense of morality, so even the thought of something like that is quite shocking to me. Perhaps I am rather oblivious to the true nature of things. Or I like to allow for a certain amount of cognitive dissonance to keep some shred of hope for humanity :nut:


[05-May-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
people brought up with strong morals typically have less trouble not doing unethical things


[05-May-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
but they can get into the habit of doing so if things get desperate enough that they have to resort to doing immoral and unethical stuff to survive


[05-May-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
it's very rare that someone would rather die than steal something that they think they'll never be caught for


[05-May-19 01:00 AM] DevField#5162
I mean, that makes sense at the end of the day, survival instinct. Then you weigh up whether your survival is more important than the survival of others.


[05-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome isn't about population bottlenekks


[05-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about tribal competitive breeding


[05-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and incest prevention.


[05-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you've got a hundred or so tribes of like a few dozen people each occupying some area, great


[05-May-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
fast forward 200 years, everyone's inbred as fukk


[05-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
*unless* they continually go raid each other for wives


[05-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
or they form one very large society


[05-May-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
I said "stockholm syndrome is a direct consequence of mass kidnapping and rape being a viable breeding strategy", I'm not sure how much more clear I could make it lol


[05-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it's not about population bottlenekks


[05-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about diffusing genes.


[05-May-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
While at the same time not getting trampled by other tribes (by keeping them down as you kill their able-bodied men and steal their child-bearing women)


[05-May-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
I want to know how that didn't just lead to one big inbred tribe


[05-May-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the other tribe survives and retaliates


[05-May-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
keeping your numbers low


[05-May-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the net effect is that population growth is stunted and genes are spread between the tribes


[05-May-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your tribe does manage to start to really dominate, eventually it gets too large and splits up into smaller tribes


[05-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which may maintain relations for a while, but eventually go right bakk to raiding each other


[05-May-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's only with better agricultural technology that this cycle breaks, leading to it being a better strategy for the tribes to unite under one gov't and start forming a sort of web that eventually coalesces into towns and a nation.


[05-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
also, the genetic bottleneck could have intensified the genes which cause stockholm syndrome


[05-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
which was my original point


[05-May-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, farming has 100x the population density support of hunter-gathering


[05-May-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means once a tribe goes farming, they just absorb or crush everyone nearby


[05-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
once you're below a certain breeding threshold, inbreeding is unavoidable


[05-May-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe was in part so successful because it got farming soon after the Middle East. The rest of its success is mostly from having really easy access to water and few large inhospitable areas (there's mountains, but they're somewhat sparse)


[05-May-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the ideal human environment is large island archipelagos


[05-May-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Americas got shafted because farm crops came late and there's large swaths of north-south land with only really one big river system.


[05-May-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So everything stayed hunter-gatherer tribes mostly right until suddenly the Europeans are invading.


[05-May-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some tribes had corn, but it was too late.


[05-May-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[05-May-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
north-south land is bad for large societies


[05-May-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
and inbreeding intensifies genes already expressed


[05-May-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
east-west land is much better


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
so my point was that stockholm syndrome likely only got as bad as it did specifically because of the inbreeding


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you want identical seasonal cycles between parts of a society so people and animals can easily adapt to a new location


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
also, less tribes = more raping


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome would be less likely to occur within a tribe


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
due to relationships already existing


[05-May-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically only comes into play with captures


[05-May-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The small tribe just means that a higher percentage of descedents get it.


[05-May-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause at a certain point, everyone traces lineage to a capture


[05-May-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is really advantageous to be able to accept a mate that will for sure impregnate you, but otherwise kill you.


[05-May-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
the fact that stockholm syndrome is nearly universal in humanity should be enough to prove that the raping happened enough that it became an advantageous genetic trait to be able to passively conform to a new group that brutalized them


[05-May-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause on the one hand it's guaranteed babies, and on the other the alternative is to never reproduce


[05-May-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a deal evolution can't say no to.


[05-May-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
and now the retarded rape monkeys are killing the ability for the planet to support them, so maybe the next sapient species can try again and hopefully not be as retarded


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
nah


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Based on what we've seen of chimps and dolphins and bonobos


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's unlikely that any intelligent species would be some merciful-at-heart thing


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
crows


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[05-May-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
just gotta figure out the fire thing


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once intelligence hits a certain point


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you start to see coercive mating behavior


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
along with warfare


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
crows are at least as smart as chimps


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
doubtful


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, bonobos are literal rape monkeys


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2004/12/crow-as-clever-as-great-apes-study-says/

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Crow as Clever as Great Apes, Study Says
Anyone who has watched crows, jays, ravens and other members of the corvid family will know they're anything but "birdbrained."


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like all they do every day


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
from 2004 lol


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
this has been known for awhile


[05-May-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
that they're at least on par with the great apes


[05-May-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's almost certainly a misrepresentation.


[05-May-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
more and more studies in the past 5 years or so have been pointing towards crows being smarter than chimps


[05-May-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
2008 https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14745-crows-make-monkeys-out-of-chimps-in-mental-test/

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Crows make monkeys out of chimps in mental test
New Caledonian crows seem to be able to use causal reasoning to solve problems, something not seen in any other non-human animal
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[05-May-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the only thing crows need to develop sapience (at least what we think we know about how human intelligence evolved) is more dexterous claws (for writing and tool manipulation)


[05-May-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need quite a bit to bridge a chimp-human gap


[05-May-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
they have complex language already


[05-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://theconversation.com/can-crows-read-3740

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Can crows read?
Crows can recognise and ascribe numerical meaning to symbols, a new study shows, suggesting that the unusually intelligent…


[05-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
they can read symbols and understand their meaning


[05-May-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
oh, they have to live longer too


[05-May-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
they don't live very long :(


[05-May-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the only reason crows and humans can't communicate is because crows don't have the ability to do sign language


[05-May-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
and the vocals are too different (though humans can learn their language to a limited degree)


[05-May-19 02:32 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-48065405

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'Trash Girl' moves schools over bullying
Nadia Sparkes, 13, was shown a knife and punched following taunts about her litter-picking.
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[05-May-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-48139558/i-accidentally-shot-dead-my-little-sister

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'I accidentally shot dead my little sister'
Sean was 10 when he found a gun at home and it went off, killing his younger sister, Erin, and changing his life forever.
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[05-May-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1124385964179238912

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[05-May-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(re: british council votes, both parties claim their bad results are because voters wanted more brexit)


[05-May-19 03:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Anti-brexit means Brexit.


[05-May-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't not stay in the EU? Clearly means we should really hard not stay in the EU!


[05-May-19 03:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They're about to get their porn age-gated and all they're worrying about is politics smh 🙄🙄😑


[05-May-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
so how much did the lib dems win exactly?


[05-May-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.univision.com/univision-news/immigration/exclusive-trump-vineyard-also-hires-undocumented-workers

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EXCLUSIVE: Trump vineyard also hired undocumented workers
It's not just Trump’s golf courses that recruited undocumented immigrants. The Trump vineyards in Charlottesville, Virginia, also hired them according to several employees.
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[05-May-19 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Lib Dems currently have 1351 seats and a majority in 17 councils.


[05-May-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
is that enough to have a vote of no confidence in theresa may


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, this is councils, not parliament


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it translates to the next general elections, then yes, Tories get fucked


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Wait, I thought Trump didn't want undocumented citizens in his country 🤔 🤔 :ponythinking: 🤔


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-48142962

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Lib Dems win control of Tory council
The Conservative leader of Bath and North East Somerset Council loses his seat to a Lib Dem.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/443B/production/_106776471_libdems.jpg


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's more akin to counties in the US


[05-May-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless the LibDems do us another Smiley Dave


[05-May-19 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://omnonim.tumblr.com/post/184646719356

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Ononim/onon                                     
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[05-May-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were wasting parliamentary time with American inspired Twitter moaning


[05-May-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Shut the fuck up


[05-May-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Liberal


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[05-May-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This made me take a great leap forward


[05-May-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
This made my pp hard

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[05-May-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just took a great keap forward


[05-May-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Into ur mum's ass


[05-May-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[05-May-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOT EEM

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[05-May-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
my mom's gay tho

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[05-May-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/713456ee20414849bc11f296e7d9e71c

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Fines, jail time? Trump team resists oversight, Dems dig in
WASHINGTON (AP) — They're talking at the Capitol about jailing people. Imposing steep fines. All sorts of extraordinary, if long-shot measures to force the White House to comply with Democratic...
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[05-May-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like one of the defining traits of liberals is cowardice


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
they have all the justifications in the world to punish trump for the shit he's trying to pull, but they're still dragging their feet


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are being stonewalled even within congress


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
let alone without


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans simply deny deny refuse deny


[05-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's their entire playbook when they do wrong


[05-May-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats aren't in a real position of power right now.


[05-May-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congressional authority has been eroded.


[05-May-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're seeing a system where the President is all but a dictator.


[05-May-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
All he needs now is the ability to enforce laws that don't exist.


[05-May-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is basically what the border stuff is about.


[05-May-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
even the republicans in congress aren't willing to go that far yet (besides mcconnell, of course)


[05-May-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the House alone could just jail people instantly


[05-May-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of people would be in jail right now


[05-May-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
including Trump


[05-May-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but they're getting there.


[05-May-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see it as the only way to win.


[05-May-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just plain usurp Congress, that's their playbook.


[05-May-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Founders fukked up in drawing their chekks and balances


[05-May-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
massively


[05-May-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you, executive council.


[05-May-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The judiciary should ultimately be the most powerful branch, not the executive.


[05-May-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
says the lawyer lol


[05-May-19 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A dissent joined by Scalia and Ginsburg is like a unicorn but fun to read


[05-May-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/04/719635969/this-woman-fought-to-end-minnesotas-marital-rape-exception-and-won

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This Woman Fought To End Minnesota's 'Marital Rape' Exception, And Won
This week, Minnesota's Gov. Tim Walz signed a bill removing protections for individuals who rape their spouses. About a dozen states still shield spouses from prosecution in sexual assault cases.
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[05-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
>What's known as the marital rape exception can be traced back hundreds of years to British common law, which was eventually imported to American colonies. Then, it was believed that a woman's unconditional sexual consent was just part of the marriage contract.


[05-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
fuck the english tbh


[05-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
>Most states had marital rape exceptions as part of their law until 1979. That's when a Massachusetts bartender broke into the home he used to share with his estranged wife and raped her. The case led to the first marital rape conviction in the nation.


[05-May-19 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[05-May-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[05-May-19 11:17 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[05-May-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e870c35567834417a4aa8a812c9220e7

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GOP thwarts governor's push to expand Medicaid in Kansas
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[05-May-19 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/allidoisowen/status/1124789710025560066?s=21

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[05-May-19 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[05-May-19 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
No


[05-May-19 03:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Fox is fake news and enemies of the people


[05-May-19 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/442115-dems-see-gop-effort-to-drive-them-to-impeach-trump

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Dems see GOP effort to drive them to impeach Trump
House Democratic leaders facing liberal calls for impeaching President Trump are confronting increasing pressure from an unlikely faction: Republicans who appear eager to goad them into it.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/impeachment_trumpdonald_050219getty.jpg


[05-May-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/442118-trump-voices-confidence-in-kim-after-north-koreas-latest-launch

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Trump voices confidence in Kim after North Korea's latest launch: ...
Trump insists North Korean leader 'does not want to break his promise to me.'
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[05-May-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
trump talks like a fucking traitor lmao


[05-May-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
I'm starting to get the feeling there might be a civil war if trump loses the election


[05-May-19 04:19 PM] Crow#5457
because he'll refuse to step down


[05-May-19 04:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The election was rigged. fake votes. Believe me.


[05-May-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump seems like the kind of guy to try and executive order his way into permanence


[05-May-19 04:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump will get a second term like Bush did. You can be a piece of shit president and still win a second time. US always votes for the last president.


[05-May-19 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
his rating numbers are also like 10% lower than bush's


[05-May-19 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
bush was a wartime president


[05-May-19 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
trump's been looking for his war to ensure he wins a second term


[05-May-19 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
but nothing's been happening that justifies war


[05-May-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
NK


[05-May-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wants to be a wartime president, but the only potential war is with russia and he kisses putins ass liek a puppy licks it;s owners face


[05-May-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
In any case, Trump doesn't need to do anything out of his way to get reelected


[05-May-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
The democrats will probably fuck up the primaries


[05-May-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
nah, trump prefers to have his "stopped the nukes" achievement than war with NK


[05-May-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump can then just behave like he always does and garner more and more support


[05-May-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
if anyone other than biden wins, trump will lose


[05-May-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
biden is the obvious establishment pick


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Obvious neoliberal plant more like


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
however, if they do fuck with the primaries again to ensure that sanders loses, trump will likely win again


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
neoliberal IS establishment


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
don't say "establishment pick"


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
we need to make them not establishment


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The dnc will try and plant biden int hat spot by force if they have to because he can easily be bought, sold, and given orders


[05-May-19 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
they're seriously fucking everything up


[05-May-19 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden - Harris 2020


[05-May-19 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
I'll vote for biden just because he isn't a piece of shit like hillary was, but if he doesn't win the primary with a squeaky clean record, trump will win


[05-May-19 04:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Biden has yet to impress me


[05-May-19 04:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he's always come off as a bit of an ass myself


[05-May-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just reminds me of default politician


[05-May-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that makes any sense


[05-May-19 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's the guy that high fives Obama after they watch a clip of a predator blasting a car into pieces


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] Crow#5457
he's the most stereotypical politican I've ever seen


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his campaign platform is pretty much "I'm gonna be obama 2: the redux edition"


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No Crow, that's Romney


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
bleh


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Romney is like if an AI made a composite from all the TV governors and presidents


[05-May-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while at the same time being all "Pot is a gateway drug and the youth these days are on my lawn"


[05-May-19 04:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I'd have to agree with Teaspoon


[05-May-19 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.c2es.org/document/the-candidates-on-climate-and-energy-a-guide-to-the-key-policy-positions-of-president-obama-and-governor-romney/

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The Candidates on Climate and Energy: A Guide to the Key Policy Po...
This voter guide outlines the records and positions of President Barack Obama and former Gov. Mitt Romney on key climate and energy issues. A side-by-side summary at the top links to more details below. The nonpartisan guide is based on an examination of the candidates' actio...


[05-May-19 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
romney was the one that flip-flopped on pretty much every achievement to combat climate change in his state while he was governor when he was running for president in 2012


[05-May-19 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
basically saying the opposite of everything that mccain was saying in 2008


[05-May-19 04:58 PM] Crow#5457
I said this before, but I think it's kind of depressing how quickly the republican party has degenerated


[05-May-19 04:58 PM] Crow#5457
climate change was a major platform issue for both obama and mccain in 2008


[05-May-19 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A half-black guy became president and they just lost their shit completely


[05-May-19 04:59 PM] Crow#5457
but then in 2012, romney's platform basically reversed course on everything that even he personally believed and questioned the validity of the science behind human-caused climate change


[05-May-19 04:59 PM] Crow#5457
and then in 2016, trump's platform flat-out claimed that climate change was a chinese hoax


[05-May-19 05:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civil-right/

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https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civil-right/
Platform Access Is A Civil Right.
Here’s how conservatives can protect it.
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[05-May-19 05:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Clearly that's just because all the research on said climate change was written in Chinese, because the US loves outsourcing things to China.


[05-May-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
>platform access is a civil right


[05-May-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
>has spent literal decades saying that private companies should be unregulated and do whatever they want


[05-May-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
clearly that's coming back to bite them in the ass pretty fucking hard lmao


[05-May-19 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
the US has spent decades dismantling all of the strict regulations in place on businesses


[05-May-19 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/human-events/

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Human Events - Media Bias/Fact Check
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), ...
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[05-May-19 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
with the 60's model, I'm pretty sure social media sites would've been tightly regulated from their inception


[05-May-19 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wow that's almost as far right as Breitbart


[05-May-19 05:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
What do you think of what he wrote in the op-ed though?


[05-May-19 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
it's a really bad article if you can logically refute it just from its title lol


[05-May-19 05:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
did you even read the rest of it crow? or just the title?


[05-May-19 05:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/Gndeb

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Platform Access Is A Civil Right. Here's How to Protect It.
archived 5 May 2019 04:10:44 UTC
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[05-May-19 05:13 PM] Crow#5457
here's an archived page of it


[05-May-19 05:13 PM] Crow#5457
so you don't have to give them views/clicks


[05-May-19 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People that say platform holders should allow users to do whatever they like because "free speech" are morons


[05-May-19 05:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
On the other hand, it's good that you link this stuff because we have to remember that some percentage between 20-40% of Americans believe in it


[05-May-19 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be free speech when the government's paying the bills


[05-May-19 05:14 PM] Crow#5457
but that's socialism


[05-May-19 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious when people espouse the virtues of the free market but are then burned by it and want big daddy government to come in and make it all better


[05-May-19 05:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For that matter, *Derpibooru* stands as a beautiful counterexample to this article's claim


[05-May-19 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
so the article's basically painting lyndon johnson as some kind of beacon of equality, even though historical stuff says he was basically strongarmed into signing the civil rights act


[05-May-19 05:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It also paints Watson, Jones, Loomer, and Yiannopoulos into the same frame of victimhood as black people in the 60s


[05-May-19 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways @Sunnyside, the article is saying what leftists have been saying for years


[05-May-19 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
glad conservatives have finally caught up


[05-May-19 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[05-May-19 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
saying that people saying shitty things are equal to black people being spit on and left in the mud to rot


[05-May-19 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
it all comes back to the "ostracization is not extermination" mantra I came up with


[05-May-19 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
since nazis scream that they're being exterminated when you make fun of them


[05-May-19 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
because they say they want to literally imprison/kill certain groups


[05-May-19 05:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For that matter, let me ask - do you think Facebook should give special treatment to Infowars as a media source and not have their content blocked?


[05-May-19 05:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Followup question, do you think Facebook has the right to block individual posts if they violate their terms of use?


[05-May-19 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, the problem comes when US society treats every single opinion, no matter how uninformed, as "potentially valid".


[05-May-19 05:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People really, really need to *read* more, tbh.


[05-May-19 05:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Lastly, if Infowars posts contain a consistent pattern of bannable content, do you think they should be banned?


[05-May-19 05:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You might think this is an argument using the law itself as a judgement of legality, but it isn't


[05-May-19 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
he's gone, he has a tendency to swoop in, link a thing, defend it for a bit, then pull out when the going gets hot


[05-May-19 05:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, oh well


[05-May-19 05:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but just to finish the thought anyway, it's not a question of whether they've been singled out for punishment, but whether they should be spared from the rules that apply to everyone equally


[05-May-19 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatives usually tend towards that attitude of safe cowardice


[05-May-19 05:27 PM] Crow#5457
because like 80% of what he links is refutable right from its title, and then actually watching or reading it is incredibly tedious because they go into ultra reactionary mode bemoaning how they're being exterminated because someone said that maybe they shouldn't do whatever they're doing


[05-May-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's part of why Jair Bolsonaro refused to participate in presidential debates prior to the 2018 election in Brazil -- he knew that his opponents were much better informed and much smarter, and he knew he'd be absolutely crushed by the contradictions of his dumbass ideology


[05-May-19 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He knew he would only hurt his chances of success if he actually abode by democratic customs


[05-May-19 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
debates should be mandatory


[05-May-19 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Delete facebook

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[05-May-19 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Delete whatsapp, too. Too much Bolsonarist propaganda spread in that platform back in 2018.


[05-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Facebook owns whatsapp


[05-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Deleting facebook kills many birds with one stone


[05-May-19 05:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good idea


[05-May-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
facebook owns a surprising amount of shit


[05-May-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/051815/top-11-companies-owned-facebook.asp

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Top Companies Owned By Facebook
Facebook is a titan of the tech space. As one of the largest social media companies int he world, Facebook's basic platform is a launching point for many of its other companies and brands. Read about some of those biggest subsidiaries here.
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[05-May-19 05:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The VR market is now robust enough that killing Oculus wouldn't be missed much either


[05-May-19 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
it's too bad there can't be a global government run social media platform, it'd be turned into murica vs china and russia


[05-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
VR is not even remotely important compared to the future of democracy...


[05-May-19 05:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...of course it is, comrade, how do you think we are going to reeducate our wayward citizens


[05-May-19 05:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
/s


[05-May-19 05:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Tim wants to decentralize  Social media away from facebook.


[05-May-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good point. Without VR, how will gamers rise up?


[05-May-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This says a lot about our society.


[05-May-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48167816

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Nigeria 'uninhabitable' for young people
A Nigerian cardinal says political leaders' actions are causing young people to migrate to Europe.
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[05-May-19 05:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Is this really a shock to anyone?


[05-May-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really


[05-May-19 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
you know things are gonna be dystopian when the EU is considered the future of democracy lol


[05-May-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m surprised there isnt a bigger exodus of people from countries in africa


[05-May-19 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a desert in the way


[05-May-19 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind the sea


[05-May-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[05-May-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deserts are a major obstacle


[05-May-19 05:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't forget the large distance and poverty along with shitty dictators and military leaders.


[05-May-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/wPi2QcQVCuY

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Real Time with Bill Maher
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Bill Maher ASMR feat. Moby | Real Time (HBO)
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[05-May-19 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2019/05/05/5ccee5d4fc6c83fd478b4622.html

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Juan Guaidó dice que la Asamblea Nacional podría aprobar una int...
El líder opositor Juan Guaidó, afirmó en una entrevista al diario 'The Washington Post', que la Asamblea Nacional "probablemente" estudiaría la opción de una intervención militar d
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[05-May-19 06:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Venezuelan coup atemptee says he's open for the US to invade Venezuela...

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[05-May-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
only a traitor invites a foreign power to invade their own country


[05-May-19 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[05-May-19 06:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at Washington thumbs-upping the French to invade the colonies_


[05-May-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/70a333dbbfb243469d70b7297cd95d7f

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Home state politics complicate message for some 2020 Dems
NASHUA, N.H. (AP) — Democrat Beto O'Rourke uses his home state as a cautionary tale, ticking through Texas' Republican-backed policies as warning flags for the rest of the country. Mayor...
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[05-May-19 06:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Public remains divided over Mueller probe, NBC/WSJ poll finds https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/hung-jury-public-remains-divided-over-mueller-probe-new-nbc-n1001886

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'Hung jury': Public remains divided over Mueller probe in new NBC/...
Sixty percent of Americans say President Donald Trump has been dishonest in the Russia investigation, but it's a mixed bag on impeachment hearings.
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[05-May-19 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dd67047f381e43f89e29618a13f82de8

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Longest-running housing discrimination case outlives judge
HAMTRAMCK, Mich. (AP) — A federal judge who worked until his recent death at age 96 left a historic trail of groundbreaking legal opinions. But one case outlived Damon Keith: the longest-running...
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[05-May-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
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[05-May-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
daily reminder to never trust a schismatic


[05-May-19 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[05-May-19 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[05-May-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
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Huge, Sharp, New
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Huge, Sharp, New
Marx: THE FEET PICS DARLING ITS BEEN 15 DAYS, YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE ME ANGRY!
Engels: Karl...please, I'm begging you, go write Capital
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[05-May-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I showed you my class consciousness please respond


[05-May-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I showed you my we live in a society, please respond


[05-May-19 10:49 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[05-May-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5880228276374de7a8e2acb03bdbdbaf

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https://apnews.com/5880228276374de7a8e2acb03bdbdbaf
Trump now says Mueller should not testify before Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Sunday that special counsel Robert Mueller should not testify before Congress, abandoning his previous declaration that he would leave that decision...
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[05-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
trump's panicking super hard


[05-May-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[05-May-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
literally no one says that unless they're afraid as fuck


[05-May-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
He'll testify anyway


[05-May-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
golf cant save your ass now trump


[05-May-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[05-May-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Subpoena


[05-May-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But what would Mueller even say


[05-May-19 11:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That depends heavily on the questions he is asked, and you bet the democrats are going to ask him questions about what he's said to Barr and what he's done in working with the AG. I don't know if anyone will try and pressure him into a verdict or question his reasoning behind his decision not to make a prosecutorial judgement, but it's likely. As for what the GOP's going to ask him, I've no idea, but I'd bet it'd be leading or pointless questions like Barr got


[05-May-19 11:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Basically, we're at the point now where only Mueller speaking the words are what will convince anyone capable of convincing that Barr tied his hands and/or made a mess of an otherwise straightforward investigation


[05-May-19 11:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would be enormously surprised, however, to hear Mueller speak out in agreement with Barr's testimony on Wednesday


[05-May-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr fight

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[05-May-19 11:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would love to see the district court hit Barr with a one-two and immediately disbar him in the event he's held in contempt of congress tomorrow


[05-May-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would lov ethat too


[05-May-19 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or rather, just do it anyway


[05-May-19 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the timing would be excellent


[05-May-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the mean time kim jong un is moving goal posts knowing full well trump won;t challenge him on it


[05-May-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump just takes it like a bitch


[06-May-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c064e6ebcd2e4f0f90e01f65c69662a1

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Trump threatens to raise Chinese tariffs to 25% this week
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump turned up the pressure on China on Sunday, threatening to hike tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods. Trump's comments, delivered on...
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[06-May-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look more tariffs


[06-May-19 12:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This should get rid of *cheaper* knockoffs.


[06-May-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, I think it'll just mean more stuff like China refusing to take our trash


[06-May-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
they're already refusing to take everyone's trash


[06-May-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
not just the US's


[06-May-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes


[06-May-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just meant more stuff like that


[06-May-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
and that's mainly because they don't need to take other people's trash anymore because they have more than enough of their own trash now


[06-May-19 12:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why do you need to export trash?


[06-May-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Danny DeVito can't eat it all.


[06-May-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
because you can sell it for a profit


[06-May-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gNZtI7hbvI

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Why China Doesn’t Want Your Trash Anymore
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[06-May-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically free raw material to make stuff with


[06-May-19 12:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sound like sorts of simcity logic


[06-May-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
much cheaper than buying the raw material directly


[06-May-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
generates jobs too by having to hire people to sort through the trash


[06-May-19 12:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Poorer countries dont need this, because locals scavenge for scrap before it reaches landfills and gets recycled. Very important though.


[06-May-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just reminded that someone found a pallet of DS games being melted down for their gold


[06-May-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, one ton of games


[06-May-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All iCarly I believe


[06-May-19 12:36 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hmmmm... We had similar thing. Typical electronics shop gives discounts on purchases whe  you turn in your old applicances.


[06-May-19 12:37 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then they send it to cencers to extract valuable and rare materials.


[06-May-19 12:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To be honest, it is just extra profiteering from their side and discount is not discount at all, because you can buy stuff for the same discounted price in another online shop.


[06-May-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/442146-sanders-faces-big-problem-with-biden-and-black-voters

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Sanders faces big problem with Biden and black voters
Former Vice President Joe Biden's entry into the 2020 Democratic presidential race is increasing the pressure on Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to make inroads with black voters.
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[06-May-19 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really wish it weren't either of these guys leading the charge tbh


[06-May-19 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Something I've wondered about (and never looked into whether there are rules about this) is whether a candidate in the running could, if they looked at the prevailing winds, choose to drop out of the race before (or even after) primaries to become another candidate's running mate as VP


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
VP pikks are completely free


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could pikk your wife


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could pikk someone at random


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just has to be someone qualified.


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause honestly I would rather these big-league senators vie for that office instead of an electoral one, we kinda need a strong democrat in the Senate to clean up after McConnell


[06-May-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
(>35, human, alive)


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
does it specify human?


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's been a few animal mayors


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
pick a parrot


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well right now we have a slice of wonder bread holding the office so


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
or a turtle


[06-May-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
we already have a turtle obstructing the senate


[06-May-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
another one wouldn't make things much worse


[06-May-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, majority leader is majority leader, I'm talking about someone to take on being VP and put a few limits back on that appointed position


[06-May-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do not believe the current or next majority leader will take the initiative themselves


[06-May-19 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it is my presumption that it will not be through voting that McConnell is replaced, he's going to hold that chair until rigor mortis sets in


[06-May-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
he can only hold that seat as long as there's a republican majority in congress


[06-May-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
that's assuming that mcconnell isn't voted out, supposedly kentucky is incredibly angry with mcconnell


[06-May-19 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We shall see if that anger gets anywhere. What I want to know is why there isn't a similar amount of anger for Trump, if that anger can be ascribed to dereliction of duty, accepting Russian money, and making life miserable for lower- and middle-class citizens in the future


[06-May-19 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You'll excuse my skepticism but Indiana wasn't real happy with Pence and he wound up getting elected with Trump


[06-May-19 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Speaking of Trump, don'tcha just love how he's taking credit for the economic prosperity resulting from Obama-era policies?


[06-May-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as signs now point to imminent collapse


[06-May-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and when it does collapse he'll just turn around and blame obama or his treasury department


[06-May-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the senate even though they can't pass anything


[06-May-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or mueller somehow


[06-May-19 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or france...?


[06-May-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADAAAA


[06-May-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

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[06-May-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
film actors guild


[06-May-19 04:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://youtu.be/4Wqn9VUI9QE

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https://youtu.be/4Wqn9VUI9QE
GOP Files NEW LAWS To Make Social Media Censorship ILLEGAL
GOP Files NEW LAWS To Make Social Media Censorship ILLEGAL. At the state level in California, Texas, and Florida Republicans have pushed new laws to prohibit...
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[06-May-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
DEMOCRATS Files NEW LAWS To Make William Barr ILLEGAL


[06-May-19 04:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"Does this mean we'll get our porn back"
>"No that's not what this means"


[06-May-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
if this is real then the GOP is showing absolutely no dedication to what they've always said regarding freezepeach: "private corporations can limit speech however they choose"


[06-May-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
not that they're known for that.


[06-May-19 04:28 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Private corporations can limit speech however they choose to do so, until we feel that it directly affects us"


[06-May-19 04:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well there is a saying that one can overstep one's bounds.


[06-May-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
elaborate


[06-May-19 04:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I mentioned it before but when multiple companies of multiple web platforms all  remove a person roughly around the same day or few days then it looks less like the violation of tos by a member and looks more like a attempt to deperson the person from public communications.


[06-May-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04/23/texas-senate-bill-lets-state-sue-social-media-companies/

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Texas bill would allow state to sue social media companies like Fa...
The proposal aims to protect users on social media platforms from censorship if a site advertises itself as impartial. Critics say the bill is too restrictive.


[06-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
woooow


[06-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
okay so


[06-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ad goes up against abortion, is all SHARE SHARE SHARE


[06-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Facebook says not to be all SHARE SHARE SHARE


[06-May-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ad goes up for Republicans, is all SHARE SHARE SHARE, Facebook doesn't notice


[06-May-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Republicans go SEE LOOK, THEY JUST HATE PRO-LIFE GROUPS


[06-May-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are literally going the route of WELL YOU DIDN'T REMOVE HIS POST THAT ONE TIME SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAV ANY RULES


[06-May-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I think the bill would probably be struck down as unconstitutional within a year or so of passing


[06-May-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
perhaps sooner if media companies get an injunction


[06-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[06-May-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's constitutional


[06-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[06-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's likely conflicting with a federal law


[06-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
which allows companies to remove at their discretion content they find offensive


[06-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's attempting to put in more objective standards, vs. the broad subjective discretion they currently hav


[06-May-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that could lead to, for instance, Facebook being unable to take down ISIS beheading videos


[06-May-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I wouldn't disagree with it so much if I weren't absolutely aware of how it will ultimately be used


[06-May-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that Facebook has standards on what anus mouth photoshops are acceptable


[06-May-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
California's bill is different


[06-May-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's actually directly going at prohibiting sites from removing content because of its political view


[06-May-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see any news articles about it


[06-May-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
That one sounds much more unconst


[06-May-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's super short


[06-May-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
not necessarily


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, that's interesting


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
"This bill would prohibit a person who operates a social media internet website located in California, as defined, from removing or manipulating content from that site on the basis of the political affiliation or political viewpoint of that content, except as provided by the social media internet website’s terms and conditions of use."


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the last clause


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they'd hav to put stuff in the ToS


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's super weak


[06-May-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody reads the terms


[06-May-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Facebook would just amend its ToS slightly to add a huge catchall, done


[06-May-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Sunnyside so the Texas bill is ridiculous and won't solve anything, and the California bill is weak as fukk cause it's easy to work around and hard to prove


[06-May-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a nothingburger.


[06-May-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the guy made a 14 minute video about this, I don't know. I'm going to assume he ranted about Alex Jones being kikked off Facebook and thought somehow these bills would actually do anything about it lol.


[06-May-19 04:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i thought it was interesting enough to share but yeah it's not a strong bill


[06-May-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not even correctly structured


[06-May-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Derpibooru would hav to restructure its pages to comply


[06-May-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
like wtf


[06-May-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The final clause should hav legalese about needing to provide in writing the rules.


[06-May-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not specifically terms/conditions.


[06-May-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Good thing the laws in california don't apply to a european site


[06-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever wrote it was only thinking of big sites that operate with a lawyer-written document


[06-May-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[06-May-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
its definition of social media is so broad


[06-May-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it would apply to Discord servers lol


[06-May-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd hav to like, put an official ToS in the welcome channel


[06-May-19 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people are opening a Pandora's Box if they demand private companies adhere to the same standards as the government


[06-May-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Fox News was legally required to let a Rachel Maddow type on their network for half their air time, or CNN a Tucker Carlson


[06-May-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would ruin them.


[06-May-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You fight so hard to not make a gay cake but want the Zucc to be forced to host your pages


[06-May-19 07:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Since no one else has brought this up yet, I've found a picture of the last two years of Trump's life

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[06-May-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/05/trump-term-mueller-1302643

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Trump: 2 years of my term were ‘stollen’
The president's tweets feature implicit contradictions he has not hesitated to repeat since the end of the special counsel's probe.
https://static.politico.com/36/4e/7f9a4e604a2985edcb4ab903fe01/190505-trump-gty-773.jpg


[06-May-19 07:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is more concerning than the joke because it implies that Trump thinks Jerry Falwell Jr. is right - that he should get an extra *two years in office* just because the democrats were meanie pants


[06-May-19 07:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's horrifyingly fascist


[06-May-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll threaten to cancel elections probably


[06-May-19 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
man I hope that Congress could find it's balls to impeach if he does


[06-May-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
like I said earlier, I'm starting to get the feeling that there might be a civil war if trump loses the election


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's gonna be civil unrest for sure


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
one way or the other


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
If Trump cancels elections and Congress doesn't move but advises moderation, then do we invoke the words of Jefferson and LaFeyette?


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
nah


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
American's are too cucked to revolt


[06-May-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supreme Court would defend this too.


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the ones most geared up to revolt are on his side anyway


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
France caught fire when they made a gas tax


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
American's bitch on twitter


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Flip off the Internet


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop sending things to rural areas


[06-May-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rebellion is easy to stop


[06-May-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just need a new Sherman I guess


[06-May-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Sherman_(tree)

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General Sherman (tree)
General Sherman is a giant sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum) tree located in the Giant Forest of Sequoia National Park in Tulare County, in the U.S. state of California. By volume, it is the largest known living single-stem tree on Earth.While the General Sherman is the larg...
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[06-May-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
there's a giant sequoia tree named after general sherman


[06-May-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
I remember that from elementary school because I was a member of some gifted student program, and we got to go out to a sort of nature park and study trees, animals, and bugs


[06-May-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
they had a bunch of birds, insects, and snakes in cages


[06-May-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
like a king snake and a pair of mourning doves


[06-May-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
and there was a baby general sherman (it was over 40 feet tall and still considered a baby) in the middle of the park


[06-May-19 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-president-cancel-the-presidential-elections-by-executive-order

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Can the president cancel the presidential elections by executive o...
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[06-May-19 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though knowing Trump he'd try all means to do so anyway


[06-May-19 09:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he gained a second term he would likely try to get rid of the presidential term limit rule but since it's in the constitution he would be unable to and start making panic orders


[06-May-19 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he lives that long anyway


[06-May-19 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may just work himself into an aneurysm


[06-May-19 01:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Brexit party: Made because UKIP is full of Racists. Brexit party: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/06/brexit-party-mep-candidate-praised-use-of-nazi-slogan

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Brexit party MEP candidate praised use of Nazi slogan
John Tennant also has history of using obscene language about women on social media
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[06-May-19 02:13 PM] moonatik#3676
that's misleading


[06-May-19 02:13 PM] moonatik#3676
the "use of nazi slogan" was him likening the EU to nazis


[06-May-19 02:15 PM] moonatik#3676
and the praise was in a facebook post from 8 years ago


[06-May-19 02:16 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11828319

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UKIP MEP ejected over Nazi jibe
UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom is ordered out of the chamber of the European Parliament after he directed a Nazi slogan at a German socialist.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/media/images/50139000/jpg/_50139863_010714211-1.jpg


[06-May-19 02:18 PM] moonatik#3676
good to know that calling people nazis can be framed as praising them in 2019, however inaccurate those comments may be


[06-May-19 02:21 PM] moonatik#3676
god ever since the guardian changed their business model the amount of godawful clickbait headlines like this with articles lacking information has rapidly gone up


[06-May-19 02:23 PM] moonatik#3676
you shoulda been suspicious when the article didn't actually say what any of the comments were


[06-May-19 02:44 PM] moonatik#3676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-a7arGYU4E

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[06-May-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3fd9ee2da3054e7487903e5e3d98f6b6

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North Korea tests new missile - and Trump's resolve
TOKYO (AP) — North Korea appears to have tested a new short-range missile — and President Donald Trump's resolve to keep it from doing more of the same in the future. The test early Saturday...
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[06-May-19 04:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AUNYzsE3UQ8WScqG2dThpuw

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Boeing knew about problems with the 737 Max the year before Lion A...
A new statement from Boeing suggests it knew about a problem with the 737 Max the year before the deadly October 2018 Lion Air crash, but decided not to do anything about it.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQVVOWXpzRTNVUThXU2NxRzJkVGhwdXcAMA


[06-May-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they did one thing, charge extra to install the equipment to prevent it.


[06-May-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then likely never actually bothered to tell the airports about this "extra" equipment


[06-May-19 06:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Training costs money and time


[06-May-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and we all know boeing has no money and no time


[06-May-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/house-judiciary-panel-moving-hold-ag-barr-contempt-n1002326

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House Judiciary panel moving to hold AG Barr in contempt
The attorney general did not comply with a demand from House Democrats to turn over the unredacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's report.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_19/2847181/190506-william-barr-mn-10005_b6cd737c8a5ff40fdad98706563caeb5.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[06-May-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/05/03/sergei-vilkov-russian-working-class/

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[06-May-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-would-have-been-charged-with-obstruction-were-he-not-president-hundreds-of-former-federal-prosecutors-assert/2019/05/06/e4946a1a-7006-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html


[06-May-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
>More than 370 former federal prosecutors who worked in Republican and Democratic administrations have signed on to a statement asserting special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings would have produced obstruction charges against President Trump — if not for the office he held.


[06-May-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
>The statement — signed by myriad former career government employees as well as high-profile political appointees — offers a rebuttal to Attorney General William P. Barr’s determination that the evidence Mueller uncovered was “not sufficient” to establish that Trump committed a crime.


[06-May-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
hot take: trump threatens tariffs to manipulate the stock market into not crashing


[06-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
stock markets always take a dive every time he says "tariffs"


[06-May-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
not consciously


[06-May-19 09:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/su0Wii3OLQc

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This week's news without the bullshit
Welcome to the 18th week of news without the bullshit in 2019. This week we’ll be covering the Venezuelan uprising, Google’s Billion dollar value drop, Aveng...
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[06-May-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-May-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6c869ddcada14421a5c1141b95f672bf

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Ex-prosecutors: Trump would've been charged if not president
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hundreds of former federal prosecutors have signed onto a letter saying President Donald Trump would have been charged with obstruction of justice if he were anyone other than...
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[07-May-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So now the question becomes, what is keeping us from pressing these charges against all of the people who are not trump who have done the exact same things in the last 3 weeks, Barr especially


[07-May-19 12:30 AM] Eonex#8261
Trump influence?


[07-May-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I mean to say is, it's DOj policy not to indict a sitting president, but there are [entire population of US - 1] people who are *not* the sitting president


[07-May-19 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so does this apparent immunity (from all but congress) apply to anyone else, or is it just because of the political slapfight that we haven't seen any charges against Don Jr., Barr, etc.


[07-May-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC it was some weird policy introduced because of Agnew


[07-May-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone says "Oh no it doesn't put the president above the law" but


[07-May-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
it really does


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a fucking dumb ass policy


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"B-but the president can't run the country from a DC jail!"


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
do you recall the reasoning behind the agnew thing, 'cause I'd really like to know what'd happen if we take this policy off the books


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's a tip for you


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...is that really it


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't elect a president who is gonna get arrested


[07-May-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It seriously is


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still I'm pretty sure you can indict a sitting VP


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
....do we not have a policy for what happens when the president becomes incapacitated by any other means


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
25th Amendment


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the vice president is the back up plan


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're acting like people wouldn't keep them alive until their last breath


[07-May-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why we have a vice president


[07-May-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's also why we didnt used to allowe candidates to pick their own vice president


[07-May-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So then perhaps it was a means to prevent against the VP pressing charges to effect a coup


[07-May-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in which case it fails miserably


[07-May-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the VP shouldn't have that specific ability in the first place, I'd think


[07-May-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the entire executive branch has powers it shouldnt have in the first place


[07-May-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pardoning powers need to be weakened so they can;t be used as a witness tampering waiver


[07-May-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really know what the VP can do because i havent actually seen mike pence act on anything, and the ability to nominate staff should come with strict conditions to ensure they aren;t crony laiden nominations designed to kill the system from the inside out


[07-May-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Pence has settled into his role as VP in two ways: One, to primarily handle foreign policy affairs (except all the things Trump gave Kushner to do instead), such as appearing at the Olympics, and two, become a complete nonperson by disappearing into the shadows of parroting Trump's directives exactly


[07-May-19 12:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I honestly think Buttigieg was the first person in a while to bring Pence into headlines as an actual human being


[07-May-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note Trump's pardoning of Arpaio set precedent


[07-May-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was for contempt of court


[07-May-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning the president now can just plain override anything the court can do


[07-May-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just normal convictions.


[07-May-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Above the law.


[07-May-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thankfully Trump is the vaporware president or we'd have a 5-4 decision like 14 months from now saying "President can totally suspend elections"


[07-May-19 01:16 AM] Eonex#8261
The question is


[07-May-19 01:16 AM] Eonex#8261
Who comes after Trump?


[07-May-19 01:17 AM] Eonex#8261
Sure, we can say, Trump is doing this, doing that, doing whatever he wants to do (legally), but, this should teach us that we need to choose our leaders more wisely.


[07-May-19 01:18 AM] Eonex#8261
So... you have any in mind to choose for 2020?


[07-May-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's between Bernie, Biden, Buttigieg, and Harris


[07-May-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's the only great option and he might die in office.


[07-May-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So just pick one of the other two to run with him


[07-May-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*Three


[07-May-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're all bad options


[07-May-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg is the only reasonable one, really, of the three.


[07-May-19 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
what about warren


[07-May-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
harris is wishy-washy as fuck and biden is just as old as bernie on top of being a much worse pick


[07-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[07-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but old people are shit


[07-May-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they vote in droves


[07-May-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But suburbs decide elections


[07-May-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The elections basically come down to who votes what way in random VA/PA/OH suburbs


[07-May-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people who say "Getting rid of the EC will take away the voice of middle America" don't realize this


[07-May-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the percentage, something like 60% of people live in a solidly red or blue county that won't switch?


[07-May-19 02:04 AM] Honahue#0656
hey, at least here in MI we voted for an anti gerrymandering law and found out district gerrymandered so hopefully by 2020 that'll be fixed


[07-May-19 02:04 AM] Honahue#0656
I think Ohio had courts say they had gerrymandered districts too so they should be changing them also


[07-May-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well, there it is. Peak Boomer.

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[07-May-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what Boomers called the autistic people they went to school with


[07-May-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than slurs of course


[07-May-19 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
https://themysteriousmurasamecastle.tumblr.com/post/184694925102/i-love-it-when-things-are-very-obviously

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WELCOME TO THE CLOWN WORLD
@dr--wizard funny enough its about this specific interaction on twitter with the LANCER creators
legends only
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[07-May-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they called them retards


[07-May-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/pOzLH_g1nKE

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YTP: Dental Planger describes his fetishes
Tried some new stuff out in this one, I know it’s been a while
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[07-May-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I tried pointing out to my mom that we already live in a dystopia when she said some bullshit about how "da libz" are going to turn the US into a dystopia


[07-May-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
the only things I mentioned were the constant data tracking and the fact that the police can get away with murder, I'm not sure what else there is that's super obvious


[07-May-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
she seemed incredibly uncomfortable with what I was saying though, like she realized that I was right but was incapable of actually responding coherently because she brought up that shit about how low unemployment is with absolutely no context or logical bearing on what I was saying


[07-May-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
I bluntly pointed out that this didn't make any sense


[07-May-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
and she yelled at me to go away because I was pissing her off, which makes me think that she realizes how bad things are but is refusing to actually say it out loud because in her mind, it would somehow equate to saying that trump is bad or something?


[07-May-19 03:00 AM] Eonex#8261
🤔


[07-May-19 03:01 AM] Eonex#8261
What have we done wrong so we are living in a dystopia?


[07-May-19 03:01 AM] Eonex#8261
When did we fuck up?


[07-May-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
no regulations


[07-May-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
no enforcement of the constitution beyond very niche sections of it


[07-May-19 03:01 AM] Eonex#8261
In what moment the United States of America fucked themselves?


[07-May-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
but lack of regulations are by and far the biggest reason why we're in a dystopia atm


[07-May-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
80's with Reagan, 90's with the fall of the Soviet Union and unopposed capitalism, 00's and the war on terror, 10's Obama being a neoliberal


[07-May-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
the dystopia really started in the 90's though


[07-May-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
that's when everything started snowballing


[07-May-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
I know that carter was a neoliberal too, did he do anything major?


[07-May-19 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F4IcS9wo8

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[07-May-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to read Mark Fischer.


[07-May-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
90's wasn't a dystopia in the West,there was a malaise as evidenced by the obsession with antiheroes, sarcasm, and apathy though


[07-May-19 03:04 AM] Eonex#8261
He was a good lad. Sadly he passed out two years ago.


[07-May-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
it took off with 9/11


[07-May-19 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
like in the 90's the fear was becoming a boring person like your parents


[07-May-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
but the 90's set the stage


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Eonex#8261
You know, this brings my favorite topic. Alternate History.


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
but people also thought that people were just monsters with a mask of civilization


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Eonex#8261
Say, no 9/11. Would we live in a better world now?


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Eonex#8261
I don't think so.


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
yes, most definitely


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Bush might've lost 04


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
it was a catalyst for the dystopia


[07-May-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
90's was a response to the idea of the End of History as proposed by Francis Fukuyama. Where with the fall of the USSR there was an idea there was nothing more in the future but continuing capitalism. As a response there was the rise of the anti-consumerist movement and the rebellion for authenticity by Gen X.


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] Eonex#8261
I mean, the roots of problems in the Middle East were already there. But it was the US intervention there that sped things up.


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that before 9/11, there were serious talks about reparations to the blacks


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
So you get figures like Kurt Cobaine that declared themselves as non-celebrities even as they became celebrities, and refused to acknowledge that, as a sort of irony took hold.


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
9/11 boosted the overton window waaay to the right


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
there was a bit of DIY punk and goth culture in the 90's but it didn't last or having any staying power


[07-May-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
bush would've been a great peacetime president though


[07-May-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
if there was anyone I'd say was definitely "RINO" as the conservatives like to put it, it was bush


[07-May-19 03:07 AM] Eonex#8261
🤔


[07-May-19 03:07 AM] Eonex#8261
Then you have a timeline when Bush dies by a cookie and Cheney takes the post.


[07-May-19 03:08 AM] Eonex#8261
Bush was... alright. But I'm glad he made it.


[07-May-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
alternate history doesn't really work well when you make an alternate history from an alternate history


[07-May-19 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue To go in a Mark Fischer direction that lasted until about the time Capital absorbed it into itself. And then after that the only thing was to go about replicating past decades. I remember back in High School reading school paper articles or whatever was handed out in school as a free magazine discussing the return of the seventies as hip fashion culturally. Then in this decade we have the return to the eighties.


[07-May-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
changing major stuff like who lives and who dies is already horribly complicated as it is


[07-May-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
but there wasn't a good anti-consumerist movement all the DIY cultures got bought by Hot Topic, and even now the home DIY culture is marketed too with "prosumer" products, do your hobby almost professionally


[07-May-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the whole cycle of culture in the popular sphere has been a twenty year cycle of already explored fields, contributing to an unimaginative dead-space.


[07-May-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
patreon seemed like a good idea at the time


[07-May-19 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
the 80's stuff has been a thing since the 00's, but I do remember in the 90's bell bottoms making a comeback in girl jeans


[07-May-19 03:14 AM] Eonex#8261
@Crow You like AH too?


[07-May-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
AH?


[07-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
oh, alternate history?


[07-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
not really


[07-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
I thought the first few were ok, but now everyone's doing it


[07-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
I prefer alternate history of fictional timelines


[07-May-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Carter was only 1 term so he didn't get to do much but he did put solar panels on the White House and got in trouble for suggesting the people could help a bit with climate change by putting on a sweater instead of raising the thermostat


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
since it's all fictional and doesn't have nearly the amount of nuance that real life has


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't realize there were solar panels in the 80's lol


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
they must've been 5% efficient at the most


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
(they're currently in the 20-25% range iirc)


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean the tech wasn't great but 5% is better than 0


[07-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
and probably horribly expensive too


[07-May-19 03:18 AM] Macarou#9574
How much trouble, did Carter get in, for his sweater comment? That seems silly for people to get angry about


[07-May-19 03:19 AM] Eonex#8261
But that makes sense lol


[07-May-19 03:19 AM] Eonex#8261
I'm cold, I put on a sweater


[07-May-19 03:19 AM] Eonex#8261
Unless is bloody cold, so yeah...


[07-May-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow >Crow mentions my favorite passtime site


[07-May-19 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
it's kinda a joke but it was a comment he made and it did make some people upset but that was also the 70/80's so news was treated a lot different


[07-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
what site?


[07-May-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
AH.com (Alternate History Discussion Board), though you might not have been mentioning it directly


[07-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
I know "AH" as "auction house" lol, so I was confused when I saw AH being used


[07-May-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, got it


[07-May-19 03:22 AM] ononim#8141
A timeline for sale, never written


[07-May-19 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what would have happened if the East German regime had gone the way of North Korea, tbh


[07-May-19 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the late 80's


[07-May-19 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are some parallels to be made between China's tacit approval of North Korea's existence and the USSR's previous support for East Germany, imo


[07-May-19 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Had Erich Hoenecker been more successful in estabilishing a cult of personality, maybe he could have remained in control of a pariah state smack dab in the middle of Europe


[07-May-19 03:26 AM] Eonex#8261
Hey


[07-May-19 03:26 AM] Eonex#8261
Another fellow from AH


[07-May-19 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I could see western-aligned European leaders be kinda sorta ok with this, just to keep Germany from getting too powerful


[07-May-19 03:27 AM] Eonex#8261
That's very nice


[07-May-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh hey


[07-May-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good to hear


[07-May-19 03:27 AM] Eonex#8261
I mostly spend my time in the ASB and Past 1900 forum


[07-May-19 03:27 AM] Eonex#8261
Currently reading a SI


[07-May-19 03:28 AM] Eonex#8261
A guy from Britain goes back to 1891 Russia in the body of Tsarevich Nicholas


[07-May-19 03:28 AM] Eonex#8261
The author is very good tho


[07-May-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not too fond of Self Inserts and Alien Space Bat scenarios, i'm more of a "discussion thread" guy


[07-May-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Recently i made a thread about the possibility of a Trotskyist Sri Lanka


[07-May-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which was surprisingly likely, mind you


[07-May-19 03:29 AM] Eonex#8261
Almost


[07-May-19 03:29 AM] Eonex#8261
Tell me then :P


[07-May-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sri Lanka seems to have had a surprisingly popular Trotskyist party active in the Cold War era


[07-May-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It held a majority in the Sri Lankan parliament alongside a coalition of other leftist parties until fracturing among internal party lines in the 1970's


[07-May-19 03:32 AM] Eonex#8261
What if...


[07-May-19 03:32 AM] Eonex#8261
Trotsky moved to Sri Lanka after surviving his assassination attempt


[07-May-19 03:32 AM] Eonex#8261
:twismug:


[07-May-19 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, that wouldn't be necessary for Sri Lanka to become trotskyist in the 1960's, imo


[07-May-19 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw here is the thread


[07-May-19 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-trotskyist-sri-lanka.467174/

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WI: Trotskyist Sri Lanka?
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https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/data/avatars/m/93/93124.jpg?1497201661


[07-May-19 03:36 AM] Eonex#8261
Hey, a Pinkie pfp, very cute


[07-May-19 03:36 AM] Eonex#8261
I hope they didn't tease you for it


[07-May-19 03:36 AM] Eonex#8261
I also notice a lack of MLP threads there


[07-May-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/deadline-looms-treasury-expected-buck-democrats-demand-trump/story?id=62851044

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Treasury denies Democrats' demand for Trump tax returns, again
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has denied congressional Democrats' request for six years of President Donald Trump’s personal and business tax returns.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/donald-trump-oval-office-gty-jc-190425_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[07-May-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Mnuchin: "nope"


[07-May-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Time for people to start goin' to jail


[07-May-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3ef5e453bd0e4a1087cfdc0e144a708c

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With Mueller on Justice staff, Barr has sway over testimony
WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller was expected to step down days after concluding his investigation in March. Yet he remains a Justice Department employee — and the department won't...
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[07-May-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"You're fired. Also you're not, just so you can't say we fired you."


[07-May-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(I don't actually believe Mueller was coerced into ending the investigation prematurely without significant evidence, but don't let your memes be dreams)


[07-May-19 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the article is mainly about barr trying to block mueller from testifying  on behalf of trump but yeah


[07-May-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think mueller ended the investigation when he saw fit, and whatever unrelated evidence he obtaiend he handed off to the other outside investigations going on


[07-May-19 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the tax returns investigation


[07-May-19 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I wonder if they're keeping him around for the full extra 6 months he was payrolled for, one way or the other


[07-May-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly, also so thye can keep a closer eye on him maybe


[07-May-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Likely he's still being consulted for stuff like helping with the redacted report and preparing the full report for viewing on Wednesday


[07-May-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anyone is a threat to trump it;s mueller so he maybe taking the keepyour enemies closer approach


[07-May-19 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause ooh that one's some suspicious timing


[07-May-19 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr Barr misses deadline, Congress moves to file contempt, Barr says "hang on I'm getting my pants on you guys are going too fast"


[07-May-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm dubious because a) this letter didn't arrive before the deadline today, only hours after they actually went through on their threats and b) the wednesday time not only would be just enough time for them to scramble and prepare a full copy starting *now,* as though they hadn't lifted a finger on that yet, and c) that wednesday time conflicts neatly with when the contempt vote was set to take place


[07-May-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also they didn't say they're releasing the full report. Rather, they invited them to *view the report at the DOJ*


[07-May-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so anyone who'd be deathly curious would likely not be in the chamber to vote on Barr's contempt charges, potentially skewing the vote by just the handful needed to swing in Barr's favor assuming an otherwise partisan split


[07-May-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there also didn't seem to be any indication that the full report would be available beyond Wednesday though I could've just misread that. I sure would like to see anyone breeze through a 449-page document (plus what is probably 200 pages in evidence) in a single day and comprehend the whole thing


[07-May-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
I've burned through like 300pg of genrefiction in a night but yeah that was like popcorn not trying to keep track of anything really


[07-May-19 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if it will ever be released as an actuall book


[07-May-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/WjQ8at8.jpg

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[07-May-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism needs to die


[07-May-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
"Worth pointing out that overfishing would also have disastrous long-term consequences. Beware of rampant capitalism, comrades!"


[07-May-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/H3NSG5z>


[07-May-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
comments


[07-May-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
"Shhhhh socialism is a swear word around here."


[07-May-19 05:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1125523750752067592?s=21

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WATCH LIVE: President Trump awards Tiger Woods the Presidential Medal of Freedom. https://t.co/uRpSxJmjK9
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[07-May-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
... why???


[07-May-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
what has a golfer done to deserve this?


[07-May-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing


[07-May-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
trump just likes golf


[07-May-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling it also might be a bit of a "I have a black friend" thing too


[07-May-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/nick44420242/status/1125526752841949185

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@NBCNews I can't wait for SNL!
Twitter


[07-May-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[07-May-19 06:01 AM] illumnious#7938
¿¿¿ https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1125528674298732551?s=21 ???

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[07-May-19 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
I like all the Calvinists in the comments of that thing about the fisherman


[07-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
what exactly is calvinism? I've seen that term used a few times


[07-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
I know it has to do with some protestant named calvin


[07-May-19 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, part of Calvinism is it's use of the "prosperity gospel"


[07-May-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
basically if you're doing well it's because God is happy with you


[07-May-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not all reward in the afterlife


[07-May-19 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
which seems nice but also leads to the mentality of "well if God didn't approve I wouldn't be so damn rich"


[07-May-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
oh, yeah I know what you're talking about now


[07-May-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
basically an excuse to say that poor people shouldn't get help


[07-May-19 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
whips those slave/laborers


[07-May-19 06:30 AM] Honahue#0656
It's about as old as Protestants too, broke off from Lutherians which is named for Martin Luther


[07-May-19 06:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't understand how anyone could believe in it though, they're taking some stuff from a few different places in the Bible as proof of it while ignoring rather unambiguous sections of Jesus' speeches about how blessed are the poor, donate to the poor, the poor are rich in spirit etc


[07-May-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's basically what America was founded on though


[07-May-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
it's like an even more extreme strech than saying that the Illiad was about chariot racing, there was a good portion uninterrupted in the Illiad racing about a chariot race but that's not what the whole story is about


[07-May-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't forget that the pilgrims were religious extremists who got kicked out, basically


[07-May-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
well part of that was that the Calvinist had an idea of seperate kingdoms of church and state


[07-May-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Protestants in general had this


[07-May-19 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
or grew to have it Martin Luther might not have believed it but it ended up as a part of the theology anyway


[07-May-19 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
the main thing that Protestants did make was that everyone had a personal connection with god, there wasn't to be a church authority everything you needed was in scripture


[07-May-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
The Catholics had been adding all kinds of things to the practice that wasn't in the Bible


[07-May-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Indulgences was one of Luthers big sticking points and understandably, it was a way for nobles to pay their way into heaven so they could lead a life of debachery and sin and gift the church some gold and be right in the eyes of God


[07-May-19 06:43 AM] Honahue#0656
also celibacy was another one of the first hing Luther did after he was succesfully kidnapped out of his death sentence was get married


[07-May-19 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
does catholicism still practice all the extraneous shit they claimed was in the bible because no one else could read it?


[07-May-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Some stuff, no more indulgences though


[07-May-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
But things like purgatory aren't in the Bible any where


[07-May-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Celibacy still but that's not in the Bible either


[07-May-19 06:57 AM] Honahue#0656
The Trinity in general is probably made up, the holy spirit doesn't really come about till Peter or Paul starts sending letters to the early churches


[07-May-19 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
And whether Jesus was human, spirit, or some combo cause a lot of burnings at the stake


[07-May-19 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
Cause god can't die so if Jesus was god in the flesh he couldn't die on the cross


[07-May-19 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Or if he was some spirit it didn't really mean anything for Jesus to die and wasn't a sacrifice at all


[07-May-19 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
This is why Islam says Jesus was just a prophet, a very important one but just some guy speaking the word of God


[07-May-19 07:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow https://youtu.be/BHQapW0HzEw

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GLORIOUS Worker Co-op Research Stream (Spoilers, they're Great)
This is an older video, hence the shaggier hair and different stream layout. This is but the first of many research streams I intend to do, and I'll be compi...
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[07-May-19 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pMwKm7W

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The winning sand sculpture of 2019's Texas sand sculpture festival
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[07-May-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was debating a guy about trump obstruction and he compared it to racial drug planting...


[07-May-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But in regards to the notion of obstruction in general, do you feel that the police should be allowed to racially profile people, pull them over, find some drugs or something on them, and then ruin their lives over it? If not, then you should understand the perception of political profiling. Sure, something may be found, but then again, police do it all the time when they racially profile people. So go ahead and justify the behavior."


[07-May-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
false equivalence


[07-May-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
you can't "plant" evidence of the sort of crimes trump is accused of


[07-May-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b1364288d44341368a9c013f5491d6d2

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China economy czar heading for Washington tariff war talks
BEIJING (AP) — China confirmed Tuesday its economy czar will go to Washington for trade talks despite fears he might cancel after President Donald Trump threatened to escalate a tariff war over...
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[07-May-19 02:33 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/oXVSrmmqP-c

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Audi Freq
https://youtu.be/oXVSrmmqP-c
scientology testimonials
aka buy our book and tapes to be happy
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[07-May-19 02:33 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Wtf are they saying


[07-May-19 02:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Technobabble, it sounds more sciencey.


[07-May-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.news-journal.com/news/elections/hughes-election-security-bill-passes-in-senate/article_fe800424-5ca7-11e9-9154-ef839b88c0b3.html

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Hughes' election security bill passes in Senate
East Texas state Sen. Bryan Hughes’ signature bill on election security won passage Monday in the Texas Senate and moves to the House of Representatives for debate.
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[07-May-19 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I thought republicans were against regulations and red tape?


[07-May-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only if it hurts them


[07-May-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the case of this rule they'll likely only enforce it on their political enemies and not on themselves


[07-May-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast try to and get pissy if it actually get;s enforced in full on everyone


[07-May-19 07:05 PM] Best Pony#4669
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-organization-sold-property-to-shell-company-linked-to-maduro-regime-says-report
Gotta get that sweet sweet maduro money while Venezuelans starve

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The luxury Dominican Republican property was sold in 2015.
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[07-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
stock markets already down 2% holy christ


[07-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
the stock markets are fickle as fuck lmao


[07-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pardons-army-ranger-convicted-killing-iraqi-prisoner/story?id=62865395

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Trump pardons former soldier convicted of killing Iraqi
Michael Behenna was convicted of killing an Iraqi prisoner in 2009.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/michael-behenna-file-ap-jef-190506_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[07-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
trump's pardoning all the soldiers now


[07-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
apparently


[07-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
> While Behenna said he killed Mansur in self-defense, during the trial he admitted that he disobeyed orders to return Mansour to his village after he was released from military intelligence and questioned about his connection to an explosion that killed two U.S. soldiers.


[07-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
> Prosecutors said Behenna instead interrogated and stripped Mansour naked before shooting him twice.


[07-May-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-mayor-under-fire-allegedly-saying-city-isn-t-ready-n1002816

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Georgia mayor under fire for allegedly saying city isn't ready for...
The mayor said in a statement that she doesn't recall making such a comment.
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[07-May-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
>The mayor of a mostly white north Georgia city is being criticized for comments attributed to her that the community isn't ready to have an African American city administrator, a newspaper reported Monday.


[07-May-19 09:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/mylittlepony-racist-gif-4440578

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That's Racist
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[07-May-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/aircraft-carrier-middle-east-indications-iran-planned-attack/story?id=62843182

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Aircraft carrier to Middle East after indications Iran planned att...
The U.S. sent an aircraft carrier and bombers to the Middle East in response to indications that Iran planned an attack on U.S. forces in the region.
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[07-May-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
uh oh


[07-May-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
trump found his war


[07-May-19 09:42 PM] Eonex#8261
Well...


[07-May-19 09:43 PM] Eonex#8261
I won't say that I didn't expect it


[07-May-19 09:43 PM] Eonex#8261
But better sooner than later


[07-May-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good...


[07-May-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pence-to-announce-u-s-will-lift-sanctions-on-venezuela-gen-manuel-cristopher-figuera-after-he-broke-ranks-with-maduro-11557256618

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Pence to Announce Lifting of U.S. Sanctions on Venezuela General W...
The Trump administration on Tuesday lifted sanctions on a Venezuelan general it says has broken ranks with the Maduro regime and warned 25 Venezuelan supreme court magistrates they will be held accountable unless they back opposition leader Juan Guiadó..
https://images.wsj.net/im-72543/social


[07-May-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://medium.com/ddojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1

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STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal…


[08-May-19 12:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/us/politics/pompeo-christian-policy.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/us/politics/pompeo-christian-policy.html
The Rapture and the Real World: Mike Pompeo Blends Beliefs and Policy
America’s top diplomat stands out in the Trump administration for brazenly inserting his evangelical Christian beliefs into discussions of foreign policy.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/31/us/politics/31dc-diplo/29dc-diplo-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-May-19 12:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/weve-put-worms-mind-lego-robot-body-180953399/?no-ist

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We’ve Put a Worm’s Mind in a Lego Robot's Body
A wheeled Lego robot may not look like a worm, but it


[08-May-19 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you have a non-NYT source for that Pompeo one?


[08-May-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also I'm pretty sure I heard that he thinks the ice caps melting is a good thing because there's buried treasure there


[08-May-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like gold, diamonds, oil, etc


[08-May-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But if god didnt want me to have the treasure from aladdin, he wouldn;t be melting the polar ice caps at my request!"


[08-May-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant find another source that isnt a religious propaganda site but i foudn this i guess


[08-May-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/07/721179030/hold-pompeo-makes-unscheduled-visit-to-baghdad-amid-rising-tensions-with-iran

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Pompeo Makes Unscheduled Visit To Baghdad Amid Rising Tensions Wit...
The secretary of state met with Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi. In recent days, the Trump administration has been warning of threats to U.S. forces in the region by Iran.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/07/ap_19127356882031_wide-38c8d87da889539049090badef81d8e22d23e6b1.jpg?s=1400


[08-May-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has nothing to do with it but it;s still pompeo news


[08-May-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/07/mike-pompeo-alienates-koch-network-with-support-for-trump-trade-agenda.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/07/mike-pompeo-alienates-koch-network-with-support-for-trump-trade-agenda.html
Mike Pompeo risks alienating free trade supporters like the Koch n...
While he is pushing the president's agenda, Mike Pompeo is risking his long alliance with free-trade groups like the Koch network, which backed him during his political rise.
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[08-May-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/19/18272529/mike-pompeo-briefing-faith-based-media i found soemthing related to it

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Trump administration’s latest attack on the press is to block re...
In an usual twist, the secretary of state gave a briefing exclusively to "faith-based media."
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[08-May-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/07/william-barr-contempt-vote-1309622

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Nadler moving forward with Barr contempt vote amid DOJ talks
House Democrats and the Justice Department have yet to resolve a dispute over a subpoena for the unredacted Mueller report.
https://static.politico.com/a9/99/181949444c2ba72fc1e5b686c1c5/190507-barr-gty-773.jpg


[08-May-19 01:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*>America’s top diplomat stands out [...] for brazenly inserting his evangelical Christian beliefs into discussions of foreign policy.*


[08-May-19 01:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. I guess that's why NK wants him out of the negotiations 🤷


[08-May-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is still trying to defend north korea who is clearly done with trump and has moved on till trump wants to co-operate and remove pompeo


[08-May-19 01:44 AM] Eonex#8261
NK is surpassing us


[08-May-19 01:44 AM] Eonex#8261
The Supreme Leader is being more wise than the US president?


[08-May-19 01:45 AM] Eonex#8261
smh


[08-May-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and mcconnell is spouting how the mueller report says the trump case is closed and we shoudl all move on


[08-May-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The democrats are clearly working through the five stages of greif"-Mcconnell


[08-May-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/mitch-mcconnell-case-closed-trump-russia-mueller-collusion.html

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Putin Accomplice Mitch McConnell Says Case Closed
The Senate Majority Leader again denies that Russia was trying to help Trump win.
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[08-May-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ajc.com/blog/jamie-dupree/mcconnell-move-from-groundhog-day-focus-russia-probe/ESjPkzXLBqErAIfmOVAyOP/

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McConnell: Move on from "Groundhog Day" focus on Russia probe
Standing strong with the White House in the wake of the release of a redacted version of the Mueller...
https://www.ajc.com/rf/image_large/Pub/p10/CmgSharedContent/2019/05/07/Images/mcconnell21.PNG


[08-May-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Trump told McGahn to obstruct justice


[08-May-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come on now


[08-May-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Everyone shoudl obstruct justice for me, it;s a fool proof plan to prove i;m innocent of obstruction of justice!"- trump in 2nd grade langauge


[08-May-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/nM8OgUk.jpg

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[08-May-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/elnLWs9.jpg

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When Family Guy gets it right, they get it right
https://i.imgur.com/elnLWs9.jpg?1


[08-May-19 05:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/9TDhRbf11a0

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Vaush
https://youtu.be/9TDhRbf11a0
Debate with The Distributist - Should we be Egalitarians?
I think I said it over the course of this video, but I'll say it again. I overprepared. To those curious, I am very comfortable with the rhetoric I employed ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9TDhRbf11a0/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-May-19 05:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, what a hilarious argument. But that's what you get when you argue with someone who thinks "Capitalism" is a magical non-descriptive term.


[08-May-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/jaaIt2z

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Huffpost added inflammitory subtitle to my friends article. Still hasn't been removed
https://i.imgur.com/jPntZ9oh.jpg


[08-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[08-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
>Front page edit: As of now they have removed the subtitle and posted a note about it. Thanks for reading!


[08-May-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
>Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story included a subheading that was not written by the author and did not represent her views or the article’s content; it has been removed.


[08-May-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/05/07/world/poland-lgbt-flag-rainbow-halo-black-madonna-trnd/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpoland%2Bmadonna%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26client%3Dfirefox-b-1-m

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A woman could face prison for posters that show a famed icon of Je...
Polish police say Elżbieta Podlesna put up posters of the revered Black Madonna that showed the Virgin Mary and Jesus with rainbows from the LGBT flag as the halos. Now she could face two years in prison for offending religious feelings.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190507134857-02-lgbt-flag-rainbow-poland-black-madonna-super-tease.jpg


[08-May-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No whim of freedom and 'tolerance' gives anyone the right to offend the feelings of believers," Polish Interior Minister Joachim Brudziński said on Twitter.


[08-May-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What false version of freedom of speech is so much of Europe operating under


[08-May-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU's idea of freedom of expression basically only means political views


[08-May-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It essentially just means you can't be imprisoned for who you vote for


[08-May-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything else is fair game.


[08-May-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
`1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.`


[08-May-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
"for the protection of health or morals" basically means the entire thing is complete bullshit, @Itsthinking


[08-May-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might as well not hav this period, it has no effect on actual laws.


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't go in front of your countrys parliament/Congress


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like that's such a broad exception.


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And says they're all shit


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And rant about X minority group


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't have freedom of speech.


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be disorder and morals


[08-May-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
two exceptions


[08-May-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the EU has no freedom of speech


[08-May-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Incitement is one of the only reasons to restrict these sorts of things


[08-May-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav something vaguely resembling the idea of it


[08-May-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it has no real effect.


[08-May-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazis ruined everything.


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't because of that


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because of the Soviets


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Having a law that says you can't make fun of or parody a religion


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea of actual political freedom is foreign to Eastern Europe


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like it


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is borderline the Sharia law that Poland fears so much


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note Russia has the same deal


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can be arrested for blasphemy


[08-May-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's nothing to do with the Nazis at all.


[08-May-19 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the tsars then?


[08-May-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to do with how the Eastern Orthodox Church hates freedom


[08-May-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And has historically been a tool of the state to oppress minorities


[08-May-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catherine the Great etc.


[08-May-19 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The original brony


[08-May-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the EU chose for an awkward compromise between American-like morality and Russian-like morality


[08-May-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to stitch together countries that hav completely opposite stances on things like whether gays can ever be considered to deserve rights one day.


[08-May-19 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EU needs to be a US of E


[08-May-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go full federalist or don't


[08-May-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think this could be one of the matches that start that fire


[08-May-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland trying to abuse the exceptions to violate rights


[08-May-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
it could be enuff that Germany and France get together and start removing some exceptions


[08-May-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least weakening their interpretation


[08-May-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd lead to the EU telling Poland to change its laws or GTFO


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot easier to tell countries to change their culture once you've got them already in.


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And if you don't let them leave.


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you ever let them leave? Why even put it in as an option?


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make leaving incredibly painful


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
To trap them in


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
they think "well if it doesn't work out, we can just leave"


[08-May-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
then when they actually want to, it's so hard they shy away


[08-May-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best traps look escapable.


[08-May-19 10:32 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taxes/trump-tax-returns-from-1985-94-show-1-billion-in-losses-ny-times-idUSKCN1SD2R4

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Trump tax returns from 1985 to 1994 show $1 billion in losses: NY...
U.S. President Donald Trump's businesses lost a total of more than $1 billi...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190507&t=2&i=1384694370&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF461Y6


[08-May-19 10:32 AM] Mikey#7286
AHAHAHAHAHA


[08-May-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://globalnews.ca/news/5246076/fighter-jet-replacement-competition-canada/amp/

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U.S. warned Canada that fighter jet competition rules violate comm...
The warnings are in two letters sent to the government last year obtained by defence analyst Richard Shimooka and released in a report from the Macdonald-Laurier Institute.


[08-May-19 02:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How to visualize Trump's losses

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[08-May-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder hwo far down that red line goes in further years


[08-May-19 02:29 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
The greatest businessman


[08-May-19 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed


[08-May-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d64338bc6606456d978c33f11d2cf2b4

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https://apnews.com/d64338bc6606456d978c33f11d2cf2b4
Talks don't stop committee's plan for contempt vote for Barr
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Judiciary Committee is moving ahead with a vote to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress after last-minute negotiations stalled with the Justice...
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[08-May-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/acc3896b900c45a58c190cd07dd44e6f

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https://apnews.com/acc3896b900c45a58c190cd07dd44e6f
Warren releases $100 billion plan to combat opioids epidemic
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren has unveiled a new version of her plan to combat America's opioid epidemic, proposing to spend $100 billion over 10 years on...
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[08-May-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
battling the consequences of addiction.

Warren’s new opioids measure is modeled on a 1990 law passed to help fight the spread of AIDS and would be paid for using her proposed tax on the wealthiest American households


[08-May-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tax-returns-losses-avoid-business-response-a8904421.html?utm_source=reddit.com

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Trump says his businesses lost so much because he was avoiding tax
'You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes ... it was sport,' US president claims
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/05/07/08/donald-trump.jpg


[08-May-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[08-May-19 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/06/woman-arrested-poland-posters-virgin-mary-rainbow-halo-plock

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Woman arrested in Poland over posters of Virgin Mary with rainbow halo
Police accuse 51-year-old Płock woman of ‘profanation’ of revered religious image
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[08-May-19 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
rebloing for evening/morning crowd


[08-May-19 05:14 PM] ononim#8141
And Polska is going to deny what we are tow Brotherly nations after this smh


[08-May-19 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
Also


[08-May-19 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
>again with anti-semitism is thing in Poland because of ze Soviets, it was a paragon of tolerance and progresevism before WW 2, what rightwing dictatorship and sntisemitism as strong as in germany, no such thing sire


[08-May-19 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
Also also


[08-May-19 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
>the idea of actual political freedom is foreign to Eastern Europe
>They don't like it


[08-May-19 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
The "they"


[08-May-19 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
hose asitaic hordes what earn for the strong authocratic rule, unlike the civilised westerners


[08-May-19 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
But I give you the due credit, the thing about ROC is pretty accurate


[08-May-19 05:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Trump exercised executive privilege over everything and is denying the subpoenas


[08-May-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/08/721343724/iran-says-it-will-stop-complying-with-parts-of-nuclear-deal-a-year-after-u-s-lef

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Iran Says It Will Stop Complying With Parts Of Nuclear Deal, A Yea...
President Hassan Rouhani announced that Tehran will start keeping larger amounts of enriched uranium and heavy water. Iran's economy has been damaged by the return of U.S. sanctions.
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[08-May-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until trump is just invading every country that refuses to bow to his whims


[08-May-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
literally no one on the planet could stop him


[08-May-19 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
he's going the direction of implementing illegal martial law to take absolute control of the nation, and the rest of the government is too pussy to stop him


[08-May-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
Iraq War 2, Shiite Boogaloo


[08-May-19 06:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Boy I can't wait for him to invade Canada 🙄


[08-May-19 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798

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RFK Jr. Is Our Brother and Uncle. He’s Tragically Wrong About Va...
We love Robert F. Kennedy Jr., but he is part of a misinformation campaign that’s having heartbreaking—and deadly—consequences.
https://static.politico.com/56/02/5ae6653a4e43a737e4a7326ca181/190426-bob-kennedy-ap-773.jpg


[08-May-19 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's the deal:


[08-May-19 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Vaccinate your kids or you will be burying them.


[08-May-19 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If your kid ends up being patient zero of an outbreak you should be held liable for any death or damages they cause by infecting others.

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[08-May-19 06:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/05/07/miratorg/

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Nastiness Is a Warm Gun: The Kremlin’s Cowboys
A Miratorg worker tending calves. Courtesy of Readovka Business Russian Style, or, What is Miratorg, and What Do You Eat with It? Dmitry Zhuravsky Readovka April 30, 2019 How Did a Company Importin…
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[08-May-19 06:05 PM] ononim#8141
>the major Russian meat company whose director tried to pass the deal penalising bringing foreign agriculture produce into country for personal use has all of it stakes controled by companies based in Cyprus


[08-May-19 06:06 PM] ononim#8141
ImagineMyShock.avi


[08-May-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We have a president who confessed to white collar criems to protect his ego from damage in losing $1billion dollars over a decade...


[08-May-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[08-May-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being rich


[08-May-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
>lose $1b in a decade


[08-May-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
>don't even go to jail, get hired for a number of TV spots


[08-May-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
now imagine being poor


[08-May-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>get pulled over for having an inspection that expired yesterday


[08-May-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>fined $500 and car towed


[08-May-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>can't make rent


[08-May-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>get evicted


[08-May-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
this is america

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[08-May-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
murica numo wan!


[08-May-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ee2829c9cf72438c917dd90aded27135 also here's the article if you missed it

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Trump acknowledges massive tax write offs, calls it 'sport'
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Wednesday acknowledged taking massive tax write offs for real estate losses topping $1 billion from the mid-1980s to mid-1990s, calling it "sport" among...
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[08-May-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
white collar crimes are a "sport" now


[08-May-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
forget impeachment, can we just drop him off ont he moon without a space suit?


[08-May-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's clearly what he would want


[08-May-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Tax avoidance is a crime Donny boy


[08-May-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically jsut handed them the exact key phrase they needed to craft a warrant for his tax returns


[08-May-19 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Mhm


[08-May-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
Hmmm


[08-May-19 07:39 PM] Mikey#7286
I wonder why he keeps dodging efforts to get them and certain people keep blocking attempts to get them


[08-May-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
:ponythinking:


[08-May-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder if it's thw white collar crimes he just admitted too


[08-May-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Maybe because he'll have years of losses


[08-May-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
And tax avoidance


[08-May-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://buckeyestate.news/2019/05/03/police-ohio-man-raped-11-year-old-who-is-now-pregnant/?fbclid=IwAR3hjX7l8njphXSAVl740Bs-3f4FKL3Jx_UsHJG5WpfSq5pHoo2iU_aO_U8 also ohio is fucked up

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Darius Andrews, Crime Reporter
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Police: Ohio man raped 11-year-old who is now pregnant
A judge has set a $1 million bond for an Ohio man accused of raping a now-pregnant 11-year-old girl. Police said Juan Leon-Gomez, 26, of Massillon, was arrested Wednesday after a mother reported that...
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[08-May-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Up to recently


[08-May-19 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 11 year old girl who got raped into pregnancy is not allowed to abort the baby because it has a heartbeat now


[08-May-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
ship her across state borders


[08-May-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
>“Ohio is the sixth state in the country to enact such a law, but none have yet to take effect due to lawsuits.”


[08-May-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
this is a very important line


[08-May-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
at the very end of the article


[08-May-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
it's not in effect, so she can still get an abortion


[08-May-19 07:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[08-May-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would probably be better earlier in the article but that's good to know


[08-May-19 08:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTION ACT no not yours you're just a *female*


[08-May-19 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thot rights are human rights


[08-May-19 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
She shouldn't need to be shipped across state borders she's a damn child


[08-May-19 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody should need to be shipped across state lines


[08-May-19 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
this should be a federal right


[08-May-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Abortion tourism will just become a thing.


[08-May-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually a state will try to make it illegal for pregnant women to fly and that won't work but they'll try


[08-May-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
no, not a state


[08-May-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
a batshit GOP member


[08-May-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
in a particular state


[08-May-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d64338bc6606456d978c33f11d2cf2b4

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Trump invokes 'privilege' over the full Mueller report
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House invoked executive privilege Wednesday, claiming the right to block lawmakers from the full report from special counsel Robert Mueller on his Trump-Russia probe...
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[08-May-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
basically, it seems like he's abusing something meant to protect people who are in immediate threat of death if whatever information being withheld is released


[08-May-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
no one ever thought that a sitting president would exercise this power to protect themselves from being proven wrong


[08-May-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c58c22765603411781a30fa5ecff18b1

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TV pitches for prescription drugs will have to include price
WASHINGTON (AP) — TV pitches for prescription drugs will soon include the price, giving consumers more information upfront as they make medication choices at a time when new drugs can carry...
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[08-May-19 08:30 PM] Honahue#0656
The problem with abortion tourism is it again screws poor people who can't get time off work or a ride out of state


[08-May-19 08:31 PM] Honahue#0656
Rules for thee not for me


[08-May-19 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also encourages more dangerous routes of abortion for poorer people


[08-May-19 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that in the old days they'd use turpentine


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] Best Pony#4669
not coathangers?


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] DevField#5162
Or coathangers


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] DevField#5162
Oh.


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] DevField#5162
Welp


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what about coathangers?


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was a lot of things


[08-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Baseball bats, stairs


[08-May-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
straight up "Deck me in the gut you pussy!"


[08-May-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was brutal


[08-May-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if this keeps up, it shall be brutal again


[08-May-19 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/losBbRx_4iM

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[08-May-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kotaku.com/u-s-senator-introduces-bill-to-ban-loot-boxes-and-pay-1834612226

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U.S. Senator Introduces Bill To Ban Loot Boxes And Pay-To-Win Micr...
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) today announced a bill that would ban loot boxes and pay-to-win microtransactions in “games played by minors,” a broad label that the senator says will include both games designed for kids under 18 and games “whose developers knowingly allow m...
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[08-May-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/442697-schiff-introduces-constitutional-amendment-to-overturn-citizens-united

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Schiff introduces constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on Wednesday introduced a constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United ruling, which eliminated restrictions on corporate campaign spending.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schiffadam_010319gn4_lead.jpg


[08-May-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The amendment would allow Congress and states to put limits on campaign contributions, according to a statement from Schiff's office.

"The Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United overturned decades of legal precedent and has enabled billions in dark money to pour into our elections," Schiff said in a statement.

The amendment would also allow states to enact laws creating public financing of campaigns.


[08-May-19 11:08 PM] Honahue#0656
it won't pass


[08-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol good try


[08-May-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah sadly


[08-May-19 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/kPC8P5t.png

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American problems
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[09-May-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) Hawley doing this amazes me


[09-May-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Last I heard he was arguing for conservative safe spaces


[09-May-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh I think like


[09-May-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Donating $0.01 to a campaign shouldn't be anonymous


[09-May-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what's the actual surprise


[09-May-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We know what party a megacorp that supports lax labor laws etc will support


[09-May-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We know what party a megacorp that is all about the environment will


[09-May-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
why even bother with dark money


[09-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
because it's less morally ambiguous when it's all out in the open


[09-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot easier to attack someone when you know who's backing them


[09-May-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
if you explicitly know that a megacorp who abuses its employees is backing a neoliberal republican, it's a lot harder to defend against a social democrat being backed by the combined effort of a children's cancer foundation, a forest-saving conservationist group, and a labor union


[09-May-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
when the megacorp is spewing out filth that causes cancer and cutting down forests to do so


[09-May-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think one of the biggest things to note about the Trump executive privilege thing is just what, exactly, he has left to claim. He's already waived that right six ways from sunday and promised he wouldn't, but now since he has, lol whatever let's pretend he can. He's claiming privilege on the Mueller report - a report written by the special counsel appointed by congress, for congress, which passed through the hands of the attorney general. That's the legislative and judicial branches; the executive branch has no direct oversight of the report.


[09-May-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But hey maybe it's the stuff in the report that matters. Well - the redacted version's already out, and most estimates peg the document at being 10% redacted. The biggest section of redactions happened in the section on how the Russian hackers were organized. Is this what he's claiming?


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So okay never mind what's redacted, Nixon did it, right? Well, nixon tried to claim privilege over the tapes that were recorded from within his desk in the oval office. He lost


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't have broad form executive privilege


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It has to be specific


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And related to national security


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why is he invoking executive privilege when literally Nixon pulled that shit and the Supreme Court shut him down


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's connection to the info in the report is even more tenuous


[09-May-19 01:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It didn't work the first time; in fact it failed spectacularly; why would someone try it again


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
You don't get it


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is operating on the principle of "aint nobody gonna stop me"


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
And so far


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody has


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he got two friends on the Court


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The precedent doesn't matter


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Nothing matters


[09-May-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
As long as you don't actually tell him he can't, he will


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What does McConnell want from all of this


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get it but it's still dumb as hell that no one's telling him no


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he think he'll be president one day


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably $$


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile Pelosi's game, if you can even call it that, is to make sure that she's playing things squeaky clean so that there's a crystal-clear record on behalf of those who want to impeach. This turns out not to matter 'cause today's letter claimed their actions were "illegal" somehow anyway


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
And even if you do tell him you can't, he will anyway unless the secret service literally pry him off of someone


[09-May-19 01:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's pretty clear that something is making the GOP bend over beyond just party loyalty


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Like he said, he could shoot someone and still get popular approval


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably something green and rectangular


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi is just "oh god don't look bad we need Wisconsin"


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Because nobody's gonna stop him


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why *isn't* anyone stopping him


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the color's more like this actually

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[09-May-19 01:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's only so far money can take you


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
How do you stop the president?


[09-May-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats and Congressional Republicans are spineless


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well I mean Republicans stopped their own president in 1973


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The president has declared himself above oversight and made sure everyone below him repeats this lie


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no public support


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fox News didn't exist back then


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
The secret service will throw you in jail if you try to physically intervene


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Congress neutered itself


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
The supreme court doesn't care


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You need to convince Lahren and Shapiro that he is bad


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You already convinced Coulter


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And then all Trump's going to do is cut them off


[09-May-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And circle the media wagons even tighter


[09-May-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does Shapiro even think the Russians interfered in the election?


[09-May-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Did you see the recent press meeting that was exclusive to "faith-based media"


[09-May-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
i.e., fox


[09-May-19 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd rather someone else expose themselves to that directly. Go on


[09-May-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russians made FB groups and shit


[09-May-19 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think you mean "a couple facebook ads" :^)


[09-May-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite part of it all is that Putin pays people to shitpost about Star Wars


[09-May-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To incite Westerners


[09-May-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US should be responding in kind and interfering in Russia


[09-May-19 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but no go on about that press meeting


[09-May-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, until the judiciary steps in, Congress is fukked


[09-May-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can't stop anything.


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Even if the judiciary does step in, that will not stop Trump


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president has amassed so much power under himself that no oversight is out of his control.


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially since the AG's office is compromised


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok so I saw people who were adamant that there isn't a need to fix gerrymandering and that shit should be left to states


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
When he gets something in head he is gonna do it


[09-May-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying that states shouldn't be able to keep people off the ballot if they don't show their taxes


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
If he decides to "order elections closed" and declare martial law who's gonna stop him


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody that's who


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
>bribing with ruble


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
we could have trump until he _dies_


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
hahaha, oh wow.jpg


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was just some random Christian talking head


[09-May-19 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We need more hamberders then


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Urban America will ultimately get pissed


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And what are you gonna do


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and a DNR form


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Send tanks into Portland


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go ahead, make an American Tank Man situation


[09-May-19 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the civil cold war


[09-May-19 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder tanks don't really look up


[09-May-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-bashes-warren-calls-on-republicans-to-vote-against-native-american-land-bill/ar-AAB5F2N

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Trump bashes Warren, calls on Republicans to vote against Native A...
President Trump urged congressional Republicans on Wednesday to vote against a bill that would keep the reservation of a Native American tribe in trust.


[09-May-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is there so miuch in that url


[09-May-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>President Trump urged congressional Republicans on Wednesday to vote against a bill that would keep the reservation of a Native American tribe in Massachusetts in trust – and renewed his controversial nickname for Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who supports the legislation.

“Republicans shouldn’t vote for H.R. 312, a special interest casino Bill, backed by Elizabeth (Pocahontas) Warren,” Trump tweeted. “It is unfair and doesn’t treat Native Americans equally!”

The House is set to vote Wednesday on the bill – known as the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe Reservation Reaffirmation Act - that would guarantee the tribe’s lands in the Bay State can't be taken out of trust by the federal government and can't be challenged by litigation.


[09-May-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ಠ_ಠ


[09-May-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
today has been a hell of a week


[09-May-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right?


[09-May-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump admits to white collar crimes, claims executive privilige on an investigative report about him, and then says it would be unfair to native americans to give them land to live on...


[09-May-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), it's tracking junk


[09-May-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
you can cut off everything past the first ?


[09-May-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-bashes-warren-calls-on-republicans-to-vote-against-native-american-land-bill/ar-AAB5F2N>


[09-May-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
and the link will still work


[09-May-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks


[09-May-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d64338bc6606456d978c33f11d2cf2b4

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House panel votes Barr in contempt, escalating Trump dispute
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Judiciary Committee voted Wednesday to hold Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress, escalating the Democrats' extraordinary legal battle with the Trump...
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[09-May-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr is in contempt


[09-May-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
this week is a fucking rollercoaster holy shit


[09-May-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that it's been this bad like 3 times in the past 2 years


[09-May-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't usually something that happens more than once per 8 years


[09-May-19 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Today felt liek a whole week in terms of political news


[09-May-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-May-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this is from naivety


[09-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
He is pure boot


[09-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
But all the same, he being an officer in the armed forces figured his input had value in the "dah armi will follow Trump" argument


[09-May-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there would probably be a  big split int he military aboutwhat to do


[09-May-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
tbf, if someone's going "we shouldn't follow glorious leader if that's against our constitution" what makes them at least not absolute boot


[09-May-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
Remmeber


[09-May-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president doesn't even have the executive privilege being claimed currently


[09-May-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's not pure boot


[09-May-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
pure boot would be in lockstep with the glorious leader


[09-May-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
some people think that Holocaust victims who burned the officer in the revolt were in the wrong


[09-May-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people also think that just following orders is an excuse


[09-May-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
In army lingo, "boot" refers to people fresh out of training who hold everything they've been told as absolute truth. Once that world frame work is broken in the field they become "salt". Nominally that's Marine talk but still.


[09-May-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's different from the civilian use of "boot" as someone who kisses up to cops


[09-May-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executive privilege doesn't work like this


[09-May-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
even hinting that the military would side with a dirty old piece of paper over the grand, glorious, shining god-emperor is tantamount to treason


[09-May-19 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
it is what you pledge when you enlist or commssion


[09-May-19 02:53 AM] Honahue#0656
not to uphold Congress or the president but specifically the Constitution


[09-May-19 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
that was something that actually happened when Obama was elected some Major deciede that Obama wasn't a proper commander and chief


[09-May-19 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
D'you think the SCOTUS is going to weigh in on this executive privilege thing


[09-May-19 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court-martial_of_Terry_Lakin

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Court-martial of Terry Lakin
The court-martial of Terry Lakin (United States v. LTC LAKIN, Terrence L.) took place over December 14–16, 2010.  Doctor Terry Lakin, a lieutenant colonel in the United States Army, announced that he would refuse deployment, and subsequently refused to deploy to Afghanistan...


[09-May-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
and people think that this outcome would be any different whether trump declared himself president for life or not, court martials are cut-and-dry "you're gettin' fucked" most of the time


[09-May-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
he had the support of 3 generals and still got fucked dry


[09-May-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
oh, retired generals


[09-May-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
that changes everything


[09-May-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony nah


[09-May-19 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, they did call foul on his travel bans before


[09-May-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they ultimately allowed them.


[09-May-19 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would like to think that even with the courts stacked as they are there'd be at least a little head turning


[09-May-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just curious what national security issue is the origin of this privilege claim


[09-May-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it was nothing


[09-May-19 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's got to be something in one of the redacted sections otherwise it's entirely bogus; trouble is that almost everything that's heavily redacted relates more to Russia than it does to Trump


[09-May-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I think the more important question is, even if we assume Trump has this right, does he have the right to claim privilege over the *entire* report due to some detail buried in the redacted material? After all, 90% of the report is released, he can't un-release that version


[09-May-19 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if not, why didn't he claim privilege over those sections at the time it was being reviewed by the taint team


[09-May-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that last question is rhetorical, of course, we know why. He waived his right


[09-May-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's claiming a broad form executive privilege


[09-May-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which you can't do


[09-May-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I get that. The point I'm making is, even if you play devil's advocate and assume he *can,* he still can't


[09-May-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah because the cats out of the bag


[09-May-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
I tried sending my mom that legaleagle video about why the barr summary doesn't make sense, and she just said he must be a liberal shill


[09-May-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well obviously, he's *young*


[09-May-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:D


[09-May-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/iCqkxHf

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Instead of a bible, my hotel room in Philadelphia has the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
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[09-May-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[09-May-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
👍


[09-May-19 05:46 AM] Mikey#7286
"New York Senate passes law allowing the release of Trump's state tax returns" https://twitter.com/i/events/1126242348290064384

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New York Senate passes law allowing the release of Trump's state tax returns
The New York state Senate passed two laws targeting Trump's pardon power and tax returns on Wednesday, including one allowing Trump's state tax returns to be shared with congressional committees in the context of a formal investigation. The second law alters double jeopardy rules to allow New York to bring state-level charges against those who receive a presidential pardon.
Twitter


[09-May-19 05:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Hahahaha


[09-May-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
... ew


[09-May-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
this format is ew


[09-May-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-state-senate-passes-bill-allowing-congress-get-trump-tax-n1003396

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N.Y. state Senate passes bill allowing Congress to get Trump tax r...
The state Senate also passed legislation that would make it easier for the state to prosecute individuals who were pardoned by the president.
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[09-May-19 05:48 AM] Mikey#7286
Ok?


[09-May-19 05:48 AM] Mikey#7286
It's still news


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Who cares what the format is


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
well, it has almost no information as well


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
>The bill, called the TRUST Act, passed by a 39-to-21 vote. It would amend state law to permit the commissioner of the state Department of Taxation and Finance to release any state tax return requested by the leaders of the House Ways and Means Committee, the Senate Finance Committee or the Joint Committee on Taxation for any "specific and legitimate legislative purpose." Existing laws generally prohibit such a release.


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
>The bill would apply only to Trump's state returns and not the federal ones currently at the center of a battle between the House and the Treasury Department. But those state returns would provide a trove of information, because New York serves as the headquarters of the president's business, and is his home state. They are likely to contain much of the same information congressional lawmakers are seeking from his federal returns.


[09-May-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Anyways


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump is in doodoo


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Be Republican


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Scream about states' rights every time the wrong people get protections


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
it likely won't go into effect while trump is still in office


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
because lawsuits


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
>States decide to do the work of the federal gov't against your party's leader


[09-May-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Well


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
When Trump does get out of office


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
He's probably gonna be locked up


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Whether he's impeached


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Or loses 2020


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he doesn't die of a rage induced aneurysm first


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Or 2024


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-May-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[09-May-19 05:52 AM] Mikey#7286
And when he's no longer president the people who pretended to care about him will be like "not my problem"


[09-May-19 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[09-May-19 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you;re only under republican protection if you are of use to them


[09-May-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, think this will pass? https://kotaku.com/u-s-senator-introduces-bill-to-ban-loot-boxes-and-pay-1834612226

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U.S. Senator Introduces Bill To Ban Loot Boxes And Pay-To-Win Micr...
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) today announced a bill that would ban loot boxes and pay-to-win microtransactions in “games played by minors,” a broad label that the senator says will include both games designed for kids under 18 and games “whose developers knowingly allow m...
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[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doubtful


[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Republicans will be fractured on it and Democrats won't push.


[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
you got distracted by the constitutional amendment article when this was posted


[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might pass if watered down.


[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note that "games played by minors" is incredibly dubious


[09-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
a version that disallows targeting minors might pass


[09-May-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
minors are a pretty big target demographic for gaming


[09-May-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but the problem is defining when a game qualifies.


[09-May-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be better to either universally place restrictions or to hav a test for if a game is going after minors (mobile stuff, primarily)


[09-May-19 06:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll note that the wording on what qualifies was made intentionally vague as a catchall, I think the key phrase here is "knowingly allow" - this ought to, if I'm interpreting it correctly, target studios that are dismissive of the problem of child gambling or are apathetic about it, but gives some leniency towards studios that make an effort to age-gate while acknowledging that kids lie about their age


[09-May-19 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course, it will be up to a bunch of people who call every console a "nintendo" to decide how it's interpreted; it could just as easily be turned into a blanket ban against all but truly "adult" games


[09-May-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat that's a lawyer's loophole paradise


[09-May-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the company has to do is token efforts to claim they abided by the law


[09-May-19 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
indeed


[09-May-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other words, the only ones who'll really get hit by this are two-bit app store wannabes and Epic is untouchable


[09-May-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though one has to wonder if triple-A studios can even be bothered to put an "I am 18" checkbox


[09-May-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder which gaming industry lobbyist didn't take Hawley out to enough dinners


[09-May-19 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was some insane period like a decade or so ago where I swear the gaming lobby spent more than the NRA in a year


[09-May-19 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the white house is tryign to edit wikipedia to change how executive privilige  works


[09-May-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
source?


[09-May-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not seeing anything


[09-May-19 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-May-19 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-May-19 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the news hasnt reported ont his, at least not yet. this was noticed by wikipedia staff and users


[09-May-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
old? that happened today


[09-May-19 06:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i keep misreadign dates


[09-May-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://kdvr.com/2019/05/07/ominous-note-on-stem-wikipedia-page-a-possible-warning-of-school-shooting/

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Ominous note on STEM Wikipedia page a possible warning of school s...
HIGHLANDS RANCH, Colo. -- Nine days ago, someone added chilling notations to the Wikipedia page of the STEM School Highlands Ranch which was the site of a multiple victim school shooting on Tuesday.

Two comments were placed on the school's page next to a 2018 article labeled...
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[09-May-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
I did find this, though


[09-May-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congressional_staff_edits_to_Wikipedia

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United States Congressional staff edits to Wikipedia
Some edits to the online encyclopedia Wikipedia by staff of the United States Congress have created controversy, notably in early to mid-2006. Several such instances, such as those involving Marty Meehan, Norm Coleman, Conrad Burns, and Joe Biden, received significant media a...


[09-May-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not quite caught up to this incident though


[09-May-19 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with googling news about wikipedia is that it gives me wikipedia entries instead


[09-May-19 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can subtract the site from your search


[09-May-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a good technique to use when you find a suspicious site and want to check if it's a scam, too


[09-May-19 06:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today was the biggest political shit show in awhile


[09-May-19 06:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
imagine the fun of tomorrow


[09-May-19 06:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7b6b09cb68d142c0bb5ffbab9dc654e8

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Congressional leaders eye restoring automatic pay hike
WASHINGTON (AP) — A handful of senior House lawmakers, frustrated by a decade of frozen congressional salaries, are quietly exploring whether to accept an annual pay raise that they've shunned...
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[09-May-19 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Excuse me


[09-May-19 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
You can fuck right off with that one


[09-May-19 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
You get paid plenty. The people you represent live paycheck to paycheck.


[09-May-19 08:01 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
I like how advertisers are so anal about what shows up in YouTube videos then they turn around and advertise me blackface masks from Walmart


[09-May-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
adblocker?


[09-May-19 08:11 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ublock


[09-May-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/politics/donald-trump-constitution-jerry-nadler-democrats/index.html

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Trump's feud with Congress puts American democracy on the brink
The constitutional showdown between President Donald Trump and House Democrats is taking a grave new twist that threatens to embroil the nation in a deep political and legal nightmare that could last for years.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190508104629-02-jerry-nadler-contempt-0508-super-tease.jpg


[09-May-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
"With almost every day that passes, Trump is providing a glimpse of how American government might look under a President who disdains the principles and pillars on which it is built."


[09-May-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
"On Wednesday it also emerged that the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee is deadlocked with the President's eldest son, Don Jr., who has been subpoenaed to return to the panel to testify."


[09-May-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
"But while Washington is consumed by the confrontation, polls and anecdotal evidence suggest indifference among many Americans about the momentous goings-on in Washington, which so far are not resonating much outside the capital."


[09-May-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
"A strong economy, extreme political polarization and the daily struggles of millions of people to pay for essentials like health care and a college education are understandably seen as more important."


[09-May-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
"This is one reason why Democrats, many of whom believe there is more than enough material to impeach Trump, are wary of taking that ultimate step; most voters do not seem to want an impeachment saga."


[09-May-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr how to make a democracy into a dictatorship: kill participation in politics by making it so impossibly hard to get into it that only the richest can afford to do so


[09-May-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
>If the gambit stands, it suggests a President can simply ignore the tools designed for Congress to check his power and examine his actions and he will face no significant sanction. Once this threshold is crossed there may be no going back for future administrations.


[09-May-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically, even if trump doesn't declare himself president for life (and why wouldn't he? no one's going to stop him), basically everything that trump's doing today is showcasing the massive flaws in how the entire government is set up


[09-May-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
the whole thing was set up on good faith, assuming that each branch of the government would protect its power equally, but a single member of one half of one third of the entire government is preventing that one third from checking the power of another third


[09-May-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
basically two people in the entire US government are destroying it from within, both of whom weren't meant to hold that much power to begin with


[09-May-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
the senate majority leader isn't a constitutional position, and it's basically fulfilling all the duties that the vice president was supposed to perform


[09-May-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's woefully apparent that the senate can't function properly without a democratically elected vice president


[09-May-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
who is supposed to be a member of the opposition party


[09-May-19 08:54 AM] DeloreanDudeTommy#0638
This ad in question I mentioned earlier was "sponsor content" on Facebook, and I'm on phone so there's no adblocker.


[09-May-19 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48205523

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US anti-vax poster child gets chickenpox
Jerome Kunkel, 18, unsuccessfully sued his school for barring unvaccinated students from classes.
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[09-May-19 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a5fc6c7710604d11925251b5e5827bf6

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N. Korea fires 2 suspected missiles in possible new warning
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea on Thursday fired two suspected short-range missiles from the country's western area, South Korea's military said, the North's second weapons launch in the...
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[09-May-19 06:57 PM] illumnious#7938
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/08/opinions/trump-tax-new-york-times-report-opinion-dantonio/index.html

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The Trump revelation we've been waiting for: The emperor had no dough
As critics scoop up the facts reported by The New York Times regarding Donald Trump's tax returns in the '80s and '90s, showing the President's monumental debt, the most profound reaction is almost certainly occurring inside Trump's psyche, Michael D'Antonio says.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190508140931-trump-aladdin-super-tease.jpg


[09-May-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
>It turns out that young Trump's claim to great riches was, at times, completely made up. He was, instead, desperately burdened by debt that topped $1 billion. It seems that his business acumen was at best questionable, at worst fake -- as were his vast profits. Says the Times: "Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years." The man Trump presented in his book "The Art of the Deal" was a fiction.


[09-May-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
>While it may be normal for business owners to take on debt, the extent of Trump's debt is astonishing. As the Times reports, "(Y)ear after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, The Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners."


[09-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
>The tricks Trump used to make others believe his fiction depended on the fact that his businesses were all privately held and were under no legal obligation to issue accurate public financial statements. Trump seemingly took this to mean he could just make things up to win a place on the Forbes list or in the pages of the New York tabloids.


[09-May-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
this is what happens when you don't make laws to prevent people from acting in bad faith


[09-May-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
eventually, someone will act in bad faith to an unmeasurable degree, to the point that the entire system becomes pointless to have to begin with


[09-May-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make Trump Louis XVI


[09-May-19 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who will be the American Robespierre though


[09-May-19 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Youean the guy who advises against killing him, but then recognizes the legal necessity to do it in the end?


[09-May-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, kinda


[09-May-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait i know who fits in there


[09-May-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His name is


[09-May-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
JOHN CENA


[09-May-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🎺🎺🎺🎺


[09-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
Cawn Cena

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John Spudena


[09-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/9/18548296/chris-hughes-break-up-facebook-mark-zuckerberg

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Even Facebook’s co-founder thinks it should be broken up
Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes believes it’s time to break up the company he helped start — and says Mark Zuckerberg’s power is "unprecedented and un-American."
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[09-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
>In an op-ed published in the New York Times on Thursday, Hughes laid out a scathing case for the government to crack down on Facebook and scale back Zuckerberg’s power. He argued that regulators should unwind the company’s acquisition of WhatsApp and Instagram, create space for more competition, and enact new privacy legislation that restricts what data Facebook can collect in the United States. Hughes said that while he doesn’t believe Zuckerberg has nefarious intentions, the power he’s amassed at the helm of Facebook is “unprecedented and un-American.”


[09-May-19 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Zucc dies, who takes over? Could be an even worse person


[09-May-19 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Zucc by this point just feels like an innocent centrist who ended up acquiring too much power for him to handle responsibly


[09-May-19 09:17 PM] Honahue#0656
voted on by the board of directors


[09-May-19 09:17 PM] Honahue#0656
so which even Patrick Bateman type


[09-May-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/pelosi-constitutional-crisis.html

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By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and NICHOLAS FANDOS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/pelosi-constitutional-crisis.html
Pelosi Declares Nation Is in a ‘Constitutional Crisis’
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that the nation is in a constitutional crisis, with the executive branch of government broadly refusing to cooperate with the legislative branch.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/05/09/us/politics/09dc-dems-02/67fe9663d3eb43a6ba3c66a384e25082-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-May-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kind of a more abstract politics question


[09-May-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How far do you think two people's politics can differ and they still remain friends


[09-May-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And if they differ enough is that a reason to stop a friendship


[09-May-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/9/18551274/trump-surprise-medical-bills-congress

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https://www.vox.com/2019/5/9/18551274/trump-surprise-medical-bills-congress
Trump to Congress: pass legislation to end surprise medical bills
The president has a good idea on health care — and one that could actually pass.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/wFhUg2ESk5yr3asMk0WX0qxmGq8=/0x255:3553x2115/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/16232855/1147839811.jpg.jpg


[09-May-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
trying to redirect any potential backlash from the stonewalling


[09-May-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
fascists can't be friends with anything other than fascists


[09-May-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how could someone who is gay be friends with a person who deeply hates gay people


[09-May-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think "don't let politics ruin friendships" is kinda misguided


[09-May-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ebar.com/news/legal/275879/gay_pittsburg_man_sues_city_for_seizing_property

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https://www.ebar.com/news/legal/275879/gay_pittsburg_man_sues_city_for_seizing_property
Gay Pittsburg man sues city for seizing property
Pittsburg resident Larry R. Reasoner is suing the East Bay city and several officials over a recent incident in which he alleges he was involuntarily committed while his home and belongings were confiscated and — in many cases — destroyed.
https://www.queeryme.com/display/viewimage_story.php?id=275879&minwidth=600&maxwidth=1000


[09-May-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[09-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
>Reasoner, 65, filed the suit last month in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. He claims that this was the final skirmish in an ongoing battle with Pittsburg police Lieutenant Roderick DuPont, who targeted him because he is gay.


[09-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
>"There's a long history between Mr. Reasoner and Officer DuPont," plaintiff's attorney Tyler Welti with law firm Venable LLP said, when asked about the background of this case. "We're focused on the most recent and pertinent issues: the improper service and execution of this warrant, the destruction of nearly everything Reasoner owns, and the loss of his home and property. But there's a lot more there."


[09-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
>The suit alleges that in the course of his duties, DuPont asked Reasoner why he and his partner didn't just leave the city, elaborating, "Why don't you move to San Francisco where your kind belong?" The alleged pattern of harassment and intimidation documented in the suit go back several years, including an order to Pacific Gas and Electric Co. to turn off Reasoner's electricity, and a compound accumulation of large fines for alleged nuisance code violations. Reasoner claims this behavior escalated due to DuPont's vocal homophobia.


[09-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
>DuPont is named in the suit as the primary aggressor in the matter. Reasoner's account of events describes a long-term campaign of harassment that used nuisance charges to cover an overt dislike of gay people that included Reasoner and his now-deceased partner, Ignacio Rodriguez. Reasoner describes DuPont's actions as including insisting on his right to enter and "inspect" the plaintiff's property without a warrant, taking photos of Reasoner from his squad car, and making comments on how gay people need to be "fixed."


[09-May-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
what the actual fuck is wrong with this officer


[09-May-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
>On the day of his commitment and the seizure of his property, Reasoner reported that DuPont told him, "I'm going to teach you a lesson you will never forget." Once Reasoner was placed in medical custody on DuPont's orders, DuPont allegedly acted on an incomplete warrant served on insufficient notice, towing cars and motorhomes, emptying Reasoner's storage units, dumping and destroying the plaintiff's tools, family photos, antiques, and other personal possessions.


[09-May-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr homophobic police officer named DuPont stalked and harassed a gay guy for being gay for 3 years, culminating in having him committed on a false charge for a mandatory 72 hour period, during which the officer had all of the gay guy's property seized or destroyed


[09-May-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
and the gay guy's partner committed suicide because of it


[09-May-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that kind of phrase is from boomers


[09-May-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
who believed dissent was in itself bad.


[09-May-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their ideal was like, lynch the gays, lynch the blakks, if someone thinks otherwise, they should shut the fukk up and be a team player.


[09-May-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I figured it had to do with Boomers


[09-May-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't let your support of undesirable groups ruin being a part of this wonderful community, to rephrase.


[09-May-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like


[09-May-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A Democrat being friends with a Republican


[09-May-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[09-May-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is breaking up a friendship over politics bad?


[09-May-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because then we can't be pseudofascist.


[09-May-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's not that, it's being mealy mouthed and never rocking the boat


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of conservative thought is to be unified against the great other


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The purpose is to love the in-group and hate the out-group


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Friendship is magic


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Friendship with the out-group is liberal


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But what if your friend really really really hates griffons


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a lot


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want friendship


[09-May-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And you don't like it


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want *unity*


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unity isn't friendship.


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unity is not questioning each other, and simply marching together.


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
No friendship necessary.


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The love is directed at the very concept of the identity.


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not at the individual.


[09-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You love the tribe, not the man.


[09-May-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
something something solidarity forever


[09-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unity is making sure that little punk saying Griffons deserve rights gets what's coming to him.


[09-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
As you go beyond the law


[09-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then the police don't go after you because they nod in agreement.


[09-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how Fascism is intended to work.


[09-May-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also today really realized that the Internet will rally behind you after a scandal only if you are a conservative


[09-May-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you ever hold a liberal opinion


[09-May-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can do whatever as long as you make fun of feminists


[09-May-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives rally around other conservatives even when they disagree


[09-May-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire worldview is that beating the great other is the only objective.


[09-May-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning literally is everything to them.


[09-May-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They have this right and liberals should adopt it


[09-May-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares about anything but winning


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dying with honor is guess what, dying.


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who brings a gun to a knife fight lives.


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You continue to not understand


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning being literally everything is why they are so shitty


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning being literally everything is why they oppose rights for gays


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
w


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10nb18DQCFU

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Russkiy Proekt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10nb18DQCFU
Священная война | Sacred War
Великая отечественная война, хор Александрова, "Священная война"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/10nb18DQCFU/hqdefault.jpg


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
Happy V Day


[09-May-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to use enemies to rally together


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't suffice to make "racists" the enemy


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need an enemy that can be easily identified


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need a shared identity to rally behind


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means intrinsic qualities of a human being


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
like their race or sexuality.


[09-May-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
To do what conservatives do, @Itsthinking, they would need to ostracize straight people, white people, etc.


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
they would need to continually harass them


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
they would need to make fun of the very idea of them having equal rights


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
*glances over at Social Just-Us Warriors*


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And guess what?


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't work.


[09-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't alienate the damn majority and be super hypocritical at the same time.


[09-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican strategy doesn't work from a Liberal starting in-group.


[09-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has to start from a majority and position of power to work.


[09-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It needs deeply-entrenched historical trends.


[09-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It needs a damn religion too.


[09-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really use conservative tactics to fight as a group of atheist mixed-race women.


[09-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything falls flat.


[09-May-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does "we're all outsiders" not work enough


[09-May-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does not


[09-May-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, you can't invert the fence


[09-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't put it around the majority and declare everything outside to be inside


[09-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Outsiders by their very nature are varied


[09-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
they disagree


[09-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes much harder to shove away disagreement in order to win


[09-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's no shared identity to use


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if winning *is* everything...what do they fight for?


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can't fight for equal rights


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Equal rights is a dead-end because eventually you win.


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once you win, you can't win again.


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as it gets even slightly close to over, it slows down.


[09-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like water coming out a hole in a bottle


[09-May-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what do you fight for? Oppression of the majority?


[09-May-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're bigger than you.


[09-May-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
No reasonable person deciding which side to take will think it reasonable to oppress the majority.


[09-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both because it'd be an uphill battle and because you'd be unable to get good justification


[09-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
There wouldn't be the entrenched history etc.


[09-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, this is why Fascism works the way it does, @Itsthinking


[09-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to work off of pikking off outsiders if winning is all that matters


[09-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
easy, acceptable targets on the periphery


[09-May-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fringes can't fight the middle, and the fringes can't justify winning being all that matters if the endgame is reachable


[09-May-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism exists because it can always pursue yet another "victory"


[09-May-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
winning can be everything.


[09-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the left can't be the right.


[09-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which strategy you choose **matters** for where you are.


[09-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The majority can always choose conservatism, the minority cannot.


[09-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It can try, but it will fail.


[09-May-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Left just needs a good group to attack


[09-May-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie has this right


[09-May-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(the rich)


[09-May-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bankers did everything bad


[09-May-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you hav to understand


[09-May-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
once the rich are reasonably defeated


[09-May-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is no further goal


[09-May-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
the left cannot make winning everything as a result


[09-May-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
they hav to hav perpetual goals of actual moral governance


[09-May-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right persists by making sure that when people ask "and then what?" it always has a fresh, crazy answer, a *reactionary* answer


[09-May-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The left has to instead say "we're done"


[09-May-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
unless it became literally stalin


[09-May-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
then you arrived back at the reactionary right


[09-May-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin was basically fascist, yeah, that's the whole idea.


[09-May-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/CBn1nhn

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https://imgur.com/gallery/CBn1nhn
The Education Minister of New Zealand said this.
https://i.imgur.com/80Cm0fKh.jpg


[09-May-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
how long will it be before the retards are arguing that the bacteria/virus/whatever has a right to life


[09-May-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Well who cares if it kills hundreds of people, It's a life and we can;t just extinguish it!"


[09-May-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/05/flint-mayor-asked-city-employees-to-divert-donations-to-her-nonprofit-witness-testifies.html

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https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/05/flint-mayor-asked-city-employees-to-divert-donations-to-her-nonprofit-witness-testifies.html
Flint mayor asked city employees to divert donations to her nonpro...
Flint Mayor Karen Weaver asked employees to direct water crisis charitable donors to her 527 fund, ex-CFO says
https://www.mlive.com/resizer/1_E_0G98S2X3-gxXnHAPF4L_3b4=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/TT67E3S3CVDYHHZ6A2RREAM6LU.JPG


[09-May-19 10:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-shoots-14yo-boy-playing-friends/

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Matt Agorist
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-shoots-14yo-boy-playing-friends/
WATCH: Cop Shoots 14yo Boy Through a Fence as He Played With His F...
For playing with his friends in an abandoned house, a 14-year-old boy was shot by a trigger happy cop ready to open fire on the first thing he saw.
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/body-cam-fence.jpg


[09-May-19 10:53 PM] ononim#8141
ACAB


[09-May-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Flint Mayor Karen Weaver asked employees to redirect charitable donors to a nonprofit fund she created shortly after taking office in 2015, an ex-city official testified during a federal whistleblower trial in Detroit on Wednesday, May 8.

Weaver, who took the stand briefly Wednesday and may testify further Thursday, said she created the fund at the recommendation of other mayors or advisers from across Michigan, including former Lansing Mayor Virgil Bernero and Lansing Bishop David W. Maxwell, who assisted in the fund’s creation.


[09-May-19 10:57 PM] Mikey#7286
sickening


[09-May-19 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-absher-app-wife-tracking-human-rights-middle-east-a8903376.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-absher-app-wife-tracking-human-rights-middle-east-a8903376.html
Saudi government's 'wife-tracking' app linked to domestic violence...
'Saudi authorities allow male guardians and employers to trap women and migrants in the country,' says Human Rights Watch researcher
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/28/14/saudi-arabia-women.jpg


[09-May-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/uk/danny-baker-tweet-royal-baby-gbr-scli-intl/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/uk/danny-baker-tweet-royal-baby-gbr-scli-intl/index.html
BBC radio host fired over racist royal baby tweet
Danny Baker posted an image of a chimpanzee in a suit with the caption 'Royal baby leaves hospital'
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190509123525-02-bbc-danny-baker-file-super-tease.jpg

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[09-May-19 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
I hate then the shitscum like this make me defend royals


[09-May-19 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-May-19 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeT5otk2R1g

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unidentifiedbomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeT5otk2R1g
Five Man Electric Band - Signs with Lyrics
Re-released in 1971 on the A-side, "Signs" reached No. 3 on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart. Lyrics: And the sign said "Long-haired freaky people need not app...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oeT5otk2R1g/hqdefault.jpg


[10-May-19 12:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*chimpanzee in a suit is automatically racist*


[10-May-19 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
We don't live in a society; the society lives in us.


[10-May-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/576167672387993601/image0.jpg

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[10-May-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't like this poster


[10-May-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that poster is sketchy as fuck


[10-May-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's as out of touch as that bank tweet not too long ago


[10-May-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's propaganda, it's not supposed to make sense lol


[10-May-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe even more so


[10-May-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now imagine if it was suggesting paying union dues instead of buying video games - still pretty skeezy


[10-May-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but nowhere near as bad as this


[10-May-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When Union Dues may cost 700$ a year, but in the end you end up making more than enough to make up for that four to ten fold in wage raises


[10-May-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>gamers rise up

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[10-May-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's your fault you're poor, unions can;t help you, go buy a game console so we don;t have to hear from you"


[10-May-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
gay mers rise up


[10-May-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merfolk

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merfolk
Merfolk
Merfolk or Merpeople may refer to mythical or fictional creatures:

Mermaid or mergirl, a female merperson
Merman or merboy, a male merperson
Merfolk (Dungeons & Dragons), a fictional race of humanoids that live underwater in Dungeons & Dragons
Merfolk, humanoid aquatic creat...


[10-May-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really skirting the like of a ULP there


[10-May-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably not one tho


[10-May-19 01:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I guess this is in response to game developers wanting to unionise? EA, TakeTwo, GearBox, Activision/Blizzard, Epic, 2K, Ubisoft, Capcom "nobody is holding a gun to their heads"

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[10-May-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah this is in the airline industry


[10-May-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
delta airlines


[10-May-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
aka shitty doctor abusers


[10-May-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was United


[10-May-19 01:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Mile High Fight Club.


[10-May-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[10-May-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/us/delta-black-doctor-racial-profiling.html

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By CHRISTINE HAUSER
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/us/delta-black-doctor-racial-profiling.html
‘Are You Actually an M.D.?’: A Black Doctor Is Questioned as S...
The doctor, Fatima Cody Stanford, was on a flight to Boston on Tuesday when she helped a fellow passenger who was distressed. Two flight attendants questioned whether she was a doctor.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/11/03/business/03xp-doctor-1/03xp-doctor-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-May-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
they did do this though


[10-May-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
african american woman? nah, couldn't possibly be a doctor


[10-May-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
>The flight attendant glanced at it and walked away, she said. As Dr. Stanford continued to try to calm the passenger, another flight attendant approached and asked to see the license. She, too, looked at it and walked away. Then the two flight attendants returned together and began another series of questions.


[10-May-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
>Dr. Stanford, who practices obesity medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital and is a Harvard Medical School instructor, has carried the wallet-size version of her medical license with her since 2016, when she read about a black doctor who was asked to show credentials when she offered to help a sick passenger on a Delta flight.


[10-May-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://dontriskitdontsignit.com/

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[10-May-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
it happened in 2016 too


[10-May-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she started carrying heir full-size medical license after another black doctor was asked to show credentials on a delta flight 2 years earlier


[10-May-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/05/09/not-statistic-students-walk-out-colorado-shooting-vigil-condemn-politics-press/


[10-May-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
>A vigil commemorating the victims of the STEM school shooting in Colorado ended in protest Wednesday evening after students said they refused to be used as pawns to promote gun control.


[10-May-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
>Hundreds attended the vigil — students, teachers, activists and elected officials — to honor Kendrick Castillo, the 18-year-old who was fatally shot Tuesday at the STEM School Highlands Ranch in suburban Denver. But Castillo’s classmates were moved to protest after two invitees, Sen. Michael F. Bennet (D-Colo.) and Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.), spoke. Many of the teenagers at the vigil — at the nearby Highlands Ranch High School — perceived the speeches as politicizing their trauma when they wanted their own voices heard.


[10-May-19 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is IAM the union they're propogating against?


[10-May-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[10-May-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The entire website is very carefully crafted to not break labor laws.


[10-May-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
it definitely breaks the spirit of the laws


[10-May-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's technically correct


[10-May-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best kind of correct.


[10-May-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/patrick-shanahan-defense-department.html

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Trump to Nominate Patrick Shanahan as Pentagon Chief
The decision followed a monthlong ethics investigation that found that Mr. Shanahan, a former Boeing executive, had not acted improperly in official meetings when discussing military contractors.
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[10-May-19 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
got a non-NYT link?


[10-May-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/trump-picks-ex-boeing-exec-patrick-shanahan-to-be-secretary-of-defense.html

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Trump picks acting Pentagon chief Patrick Shanahan, a former Boein...
President Donald Trump plans to nominate acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan, a former Boeing executive, to formally take over the top spot at the Pentagon, the president's spokeswoman said Thursday.
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[10-May-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
what's wrong with NYT?


[10-May-19 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/politics/trump-nominate-shanahan/index.html>


[10-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, does NYT have a paywall or something I'm not seeing because of one of my extensions?


[10-May-19 02:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It makes you pay after 10 articles


[10-May-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've never ran into that before I don't think


[10-May-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
thanks umatrix


[10-May-19 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
worse

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[10-May-19 02:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Goddamnit NYT


[10-May-19 02:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:trixdisgust:


[10-May-19 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
AP remains one of my favorite news sites because they *never* pull stunts like this


[10-May-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-fighterjets/canada-changing-rules-for-fighter-jet-competition-to-allow-lockheed-martin-bid-source-idUSKCN1SF2RP

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Canada changing rules for fighter jet competition to allow Lockheed...
Canada is changing the rules of its multibillion-dollar competition for 88 new f...
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[10-May-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
man Lockheed made so much money on the F35 it's disgusting, half a useful plane went like 1 trillion dollars before making something that could fly and it's still wracked with problems


[10-May-19 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
and it's not even any good at any of the shit they want it to do


[10-May-19 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
gives the pilots headaches and because of internal weapons, which is great for stealth but awful for fuel and amount of munitions carried it can't stay on site for long


[10-May-19 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's almost like the Military-Industrial Complex is a inflationary money sink, existing purely to be a source of constant consumption and heightening demand for labor and resources that leads to no improvement in the rest of our lives.


[10-May-19 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Well they sold it as something that could replace 3 very different airplanes with very different roles. The idea was that it's one logistics chain so everything is cheaper for maintenance because of economies of scale. Unsurprisingly though 1 airplane for 3 different jobs gives you 3 airplanes only partially capable of any of those jobs


[10-May-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
they tried to get rid of BRRRRRRT >:V


[10-May-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
thing's a fucking tank on wings


[10-May-19 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
You only need stealth for day 1 of combat anyway after that their AA is gone


[10-May-19 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
Then you want longevity and stuff like the A-10 and Spooky or Specter deliver that for close air support

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[10-May-19 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Yeah every year I was in they kept trying to kill the A-10 but it proved to survive bureaucracy just as well as it survives gunfire


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT9bit2-1pg

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[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
with guns


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
how to stop a riot from being stopped


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
yeah sure, you could do that


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
lol


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
but then you'll suddenly find yourself with a widespread uprising


[10-May-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why it's called the top 0.1%, literally a handful of people vs millions


[10-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
killing people indiscriminately has been how so many countries have fallen


[10-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
just like how north korea's model is unsustainable


[10-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
without a giant ass country like china propping it up, it would've collapsed in a decade


[10-May-19 03:25 AM] Yuri#4154

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[10-May-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b6981a54b2824f6aa53eb4050941229e

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Burned before, US pushes for way to enforce China trade deal
WASHINGTON (AP) — In trying to hammer out a trade agreement with China, the Trump administration may be drawing inspiration from classic rock, specifically The Who's anthem "Won't Get Fooled...
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[10-May-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[10-May-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:pudding:


[10-May-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/325a25fa6b914077b4ef1bc4f1728061

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Democratic presidential candidates embrace staff unionizing
Almost universally, Democratic presidential candidates praise the power of unions as a force for positive change on the campaign trail. And now, a number of them are matching their words with...
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[10-May-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
in response to bernie


[10-May-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
bernie's the one driving the democrats right now


[10-May-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
even if they aren't willing to admit it


[10-May-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
they're like 2 months late too


[10-May-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1125857619191660544?s=19

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@Slate A woman who travels out of Georgia to obtain a legal abortion elsewhere could still be prosecuted under the new law, and imprisoned for up to ten years.
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[10-May-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I knew it


[10-May-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus, the ammount of fucking hoops anti-choice legislators have to set up


[10-May-19 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
What even is the point? Just trying to win Christian votes?


[10-May-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
control, and power


[10-May-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also christian psychopaths


[10-May-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Conservatives do not liek people having civil rights especially over their own bodies. This goes double for women and blakc folk


[10-May-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also don;t want people climbing out of their pits, if it takes a child to drag thme down then so be it


[10-May-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that child grows up and becomes a Democrat


[10-May-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and as long as they keep forcing that child back into their pit then they see it as victory


[10-May-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/asia-markets-us-china-trade-war-currencies-in-focus.html

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Asia stocks gain as increased tariffs on China loom
Stocks in Asia rose in Friday morning trade, despite increased U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods that are set to kick in at 12.01 a.m. ET Friday.
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[10-May-19 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2019/05/09/delta-employees-spend-money-video-games-not-union-dues-international-association-of-machinists/1155939001/

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Delta to workers: Spend money on video games, not dues; union supp...
The International Association of Machinists is trying to organize Delta ground workers and flight attendants and Delta is fighting  the effort.
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[10-May-19 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Delta can eat my asshole

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[10-May-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-s-u-n-envoy-denies-threat-against-u-s-n1004046

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Iran's U.N. envoy denies threat against U.S. forces, calling it 'f...
The ambassador said the Trump administration's allegations of warmongering were false, spread by "the same people" who pushed the U.S. into Iraq.
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[10-May-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't believe anyone who doesn't have a hostage (like north korea) would ever directly threaten to attack US forces


[10-May-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
so I think trump has probably directed the military to look for any little tiny excuse to start a war in order to ensure trump wins a second term


[10-May-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
>"These are all allegations which are being produced by the same people who, in the run-up to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, did the same," Ravanchi said, in an apparent reference to national security adviser John Bolton, who worked in George W. Bush's administration during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.


[10-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/us-china-trade-talks-to-continue-on-friday-white-house-says.html

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US-China trade negotiations will continue on Friday, White House o...
American and Chinese negotiators have agreed to continue their trade talks, a White House spokesman said Thursday.
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[10-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
>As expected, 12:01 ET passed and the Trump administration raised tariffs from 10% to 25% on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods.


[10-May-19 07:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JaydotSloane/status/1126584091372077056

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I sent that absolute garbage Delta anti union poster to my union steward and she  just texted me this in reply 😂😂😂
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[10-May-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alabama-abortion-law-2019-chaos-on-senate-floor-today-while-state-lawmakers-debate-near-total-abortion-ban-2019-05-09/

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Alabama could pass a near-total ban on abortion as soon as Tuesday
It would be the most restrictive ban on abortion since the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade ruling
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[10-May-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The bill provides no exceptions for rape or incest and classifies the procedure as a Class A felony in the state. That means a doctor caught performing abortions in Alabama would face up to 99 years in prison.


[10-May-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
>The rape and incest clause was the subject of a fiery interaction on Thursday morning when Will Ainsworth, the Lieutenant Governor of Alabama, moved to reject an amendment that sought to include an exception for the two situations. Senate Majority Leader Bobby Singleton challenged the quick decision, leading to an angry exchange between the two politicians.


[10-May-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
tfw alabama's lieutenant governor wants no exception for rape and incest abortions


[10-May-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
basically, he wants incestual rape to always make babies


[10-May-19 07:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Sweet home alabama


[10-May-19 07:54 AM] byte[]#2610
ay cousin, let's go fucking


[10-May-19 07:55 AM] Mikey#7286
welcome to Alabama, where abortions are banned but inbreeding is legal


[10-May-19 11:26 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
There is nothing wrong with fucking your cousin


[10-May-19 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alabama: we keep it in the state, so they can keep it in the family


[10-May-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/health/teacher-breast-cancer-substitute-pay-trnd/index.html

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[10-May-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>A San Francisco teacher who is on medical leave has to worry about more than just battling breast cancer.

On top of footing medical bills, she has to pay for a substitute teacher at Glen Park Elementary School.
All teachers receive 10 paid days of medical leave a year in the San Francisco United School District. If a teacher needs more time, they can get another 100 sick days -- at a price. Under a 1976 California law, the cost for the substitute teacher will be deducted from the teacher's salary.


[10-May-19 04:37 PM] ononim#8141
Man I just looked through  Hamidan massacare and Abdul Hamid wiki pages and decided "hey why not look at the discussion" and all the denial there lmao


[10-May-19 04:39 PM] ononim#8141
> but good to remind the others that the Armenians were again armed during the Great War of 1914-18 and helped the Russians **against the Ottoman Empire, their own country.**


[10-May-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1126525787451154432

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BREAKING: Alabama Republicans just tried to sneak through a measure that would make nearly all abortions a felony punishable by up to 99 years in prison without even so much as a normal a roll call vote.

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[10-May-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on going updates within the tweet


[10-May-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/420f9e3ae0714dc08d97c5e7dc093f46

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Trump claims China tariffs help, not hurt US, talks still on
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday that trade talks between China and the U.S. were continuing in a "very congenial manner" despite new tariffs the U.S. imposed Friday on $200...
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[10-May-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/20afeea785634442b8300ba2fab0c002

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Experts see Russia fingerprints on North Korea's new missile
TOKYO (AP) — The three new missiles North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has tested over the past week are eerily familiar to military experts: They look just like a controversial and widely copied...
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[10-May-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-delay-extension-article-50-october-theresa-may-france-eu-a8907636.html

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[10-May-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-May-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-may-be-underestimating-iran-s-resolve-resisting-nuclear-sanctions-n1004111

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Trump may be underestimating Iran's resolve in resisting nuclear s...
Analysis: An increasingly isolated and beleaguered American president is creating a dangerous confrontation with a hostile regime in Tehran.
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[10-May-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
imagine if the US invades iran and iran uses a nuke defensively


[10-May-19 08:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't think anyone would consider firing a nuke as defence. Maybe if that nuke was directed at the invading troops but that would be overkill.


[10-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
the US is overkill


[10-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
like even the smallest amount of force the US could bring against iran would be overkill


[10-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
there is not a single established country on the planet that could withstand the US, only guerrilla tactics work against them, and only to a limited degree


[10-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
since the US has learned from vietnam


[10-May-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ben-shapiro-storms-out-of-bbc-interview-im-popular-and-no-ones-ever-heard-of-you

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Facts did not care about Ben Shapiro’s feelings.
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[10-May-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr ben shapiro's a big fuckin baby


[10-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
basically, andrew neil pushed ben shapiro to answer his questions without redirection or whataboutism, and it frustrated shapiro to the point that he started bragging about how popular and rich he is and how andrew neil is a "nobody" that nobody's ever heard of


[10-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
"Stop judging Benjamin Shapiro based on his words, actions, his audience, and the discourse he creates. Please judge him on how he feels about facts at the current moment."


[10-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[10-May-19 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ryanhillmi/status/1126911077906882560?s=21

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https://twitter.com/ryanhillmi/status/1126911077906882560?s=21
@realDonaldTrump Looks like Handsy Donnie also likes to attack and mock other people’s victims as we’ll….

SAD

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[10-May-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
"In a bit of damage control, prior to the chat’s airing, Shapiro tweeted Thursday that he had taped an interview with Neil and “misinterpreted his antagonism as political Leftism,” acknowledging that it was inaccurate."


[10-May-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
the idiot can't even tell when someone's ideologically opposed to him versus just wanting to get straight answers out of him


[10-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
this seems to be a common problem with a lot of conservatives today, they equate being questioned to somehow being personally attacked by someone who wants to exterminate them


[10-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
because apparently andrew neil is also a conservative


[10-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
>“You talk about undermining the public discourse,” Shapiro whined. “It seems to me that simply going through and finding lone things that sound bad out of context and then hitting people with them is a way for you to make a quick buck on BBC off the fact that I’m popular and no one has ever heard of you.” (Interestingly enough, Shapiro’s own website has heard of Neil, lovingly writing up one his segments earlier this year with the cartoonish headline “British Journalist DESTROYS Argument That U.S. Sanctions, Not Socialism, Hurt Venezuela.”)


[10-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[10-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
even his own website loves andrew neil


[10-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
and shapiro didn't even know anything about the person interviewing him


[10-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
>“Thank you for your time and for showing that anger is not part of American political discourse,” Neil cheekily replied.


[10-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
UK conservative destroys US conservative with FACTS and LOGIC


[10-May-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's a lot harder to bulldoze over an old, experienced political commentator with fast talking compared to random college students still chained up by the slave/master mindset of modern schooling


[10-May-19 09:07 PM] illumnious#7938

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[10-May-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1126879279411757057

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https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1126879279411757057
Big, big news in the world of YouTube (and now politics):

YouTube has de-monetized Carl Benjamin’s hugely popular Sargon of Akkad channel and removed him from the YouTube Partnership Program after his remarks about raping an MP.

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[10-May-19 09:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Okay


[10-May-19 09:12 PM] illumnious#7938
How good or bad this is?


[10-May-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[10-May-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should Google pay you money if you talk about raping people


[10-May-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
a racist misogynist nazi apologist was demonetized


[10-May-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
that's always good in my book


[10-May-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't like "deplatformed"


[10-May-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It implies that anyone has an actual right to a private service


[10-May-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You are there at the whim of the moderators.


[10-May-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is a privilege.


[10-May-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He wasn't deplatformed


[10-May-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
demonetized


[10-May-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's just not getting paid to shitpost


[10-May-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God the PJ stuff made me rewatch that old JonTron debate


[10-May-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc

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surreal entertainment
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc
Ben Shapiro in a nutshell
Ben Shapiro is a political figure and also a very epic person. This video contains one of his most viral moments. Ben Shapiro vs a liberal feminist. --------...
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[10-May-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
JT really is/was completely ignorant of modern life


[10-May-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He clearly got all of his politics from memes.


[10-May-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The newest interview the guy who debated him did really was good too


[10-May-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone ever has to say that they are controlled by facts and not feelings they're probably lying to themselves


[10-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
you mean ben shapiro and andrew neil?


[10-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just stopped paying him ad revenue and took away his partnership


[10-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[10-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82PJiY8RIY

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Ben Shapiro gets DESTROYED by conservative BBC journalist Andrew Neil
Conservative journalist Andrew Neil interviews Ben Shapiro on BBC 2 for Politics Live on May 10, 2019. Shapiro gets so TRIGGERED by the end of it that he cut...
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[10-May-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No not that


[10-May-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
that was just an interview though, not a debate


[10-May-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was rhe guy who interviewed JonTron and now he interviewed more


[10-May-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
ben shapiro was acting like a whiny spoiled brat near the end compared to andrew's stoicism


[10-May-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ultimately it's about feelings to him


[10-May-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But he'll never get the one feeling he wants


[10-May-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The love of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez


[10-May-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-golf-cheating-10-year-old-boy-mar-a-lago-a8909011.html

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Trump ‘declared himself winner of golf tournament after cheating...
President claims he has won as many as 20 championship titles, which experts say is not true
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[10-May-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[10-May-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a sad man


[10-May-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a sad sad little man in a seat that is way too big for him


[10-May-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and his sad, sad little hands


[10-May-19 10:09 PM] illumnious#7938
He cheated back in 2016 during the election, and he cheated today in the fucking golf course


[10-May-19 10:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Way to go dumbass


[10-May-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can't win without cheating and he goes apeshit trying to hide it while also parading his cheatign aroudn town


[10-May-19 10:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Hopeless


[10-May-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't criticize Trump at all or you're deranged.


[10-May-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't laugh at anything he does either.


[10-May-19 10:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/324611321556813/

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President Donald J. Trump and First Lady Melania Trump participate in a celebration of military mothers event at the White House.
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[10-May-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TrUmP DeRaNgEmEnT SyNdRoMe


[10-May-19 10:45 PM] illumnious#7938
tRump


[10-May-19 10:50 PM] Mikey#7286
drumpf


[10-May-19 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/billycorben/status/1126655402127577088?s=21

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Florida high school kids hack school computer system, send email to all faculty and students about "mandatory penis inspection...in accordance with the Florida Penal Health Code 69" because Florida: https://t.co/sERBV9QKje
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[10-May-19 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Good


[10-May-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[10-May-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e8a5195c21af44e5b783082366cc2f29 oh look the tariffs back fired, This is so shocking

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US-China talks break up after US raises tariffs
WASHINGTON (AP) — Trade talks between the U.S. and China broke up Friday with no agreement, hours after President Donald Trump more than doubled tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese...
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[10-May-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/92594d53851042278c28dd5edb6613e7

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House passes $19B disaster aid bill over Trump opposition
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House on Friday passed a $19 billion disaster aid bill that would deliver long-sought relief to farmers, victims of hurricanes and floods, and rebuild southern military...
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[10-May-19 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh Flint is finally getting wate— oh Puerto Rico


[10-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah on top of that the mayor of flint stole the water restoration donations to fund her campaign


[10-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/05/flint-mayor-asked-city-employees-to-divert-donations-to-her-nonprofit-witness-testifies.html

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Flint mayor asked city employees to divert donations to her nonpro...
Flint Mayor Karen Weaver asked employees to direct water crisis charitable donors to her 527 fund, ex-CFO says
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[10-May-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmiEq8xbBo

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Zero Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BmiEq8xbBo
Acid Communism, Philip K Dick, and the New Culture
In this video, Acid Communism is seen through the mystical experiences of Philip K Dick, the projects of Terence McKenna and Timothy Leary, and through some ...
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[10-May-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://thewastedworld.wordpress.com/2018/12/16/notes-on-acid-communism/

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More Than This: Notes on Acid Communism
The presence of the new is what is denied under capitalist realism, and it is what re-emerges under the influence of acid’s weird concoction, communist or otherwise. As we navigate the humdrum of c…
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[10-May-19 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
LSD is probably the only recreational drug I'd be willing to try


[10-May-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
mainly because pretty much all of its psychological effects are the type that can be controlled by the person experiencing them, they just have to remember that they're on drugs to do so


[10-May-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
other drugs directly interfere with that ability, but LSD doesn't


[11-May-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/ninja-bomb-pentagon-airstrikes-missile-hellfire-cia-assassination-steel-1421850

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What are ninja bombs? Pentagon's new secret missiles kill target w...
The modified Hellfire missile has reportedly been used in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia.
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[11-May-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
>The weapon is a modified Hellfire missile, with the explosive payload removed and six long blades attached, which deploy moments before the missile reaches its target. Victims are killed by either the speeding 100-pound projectile—which lands with enormous force—or the deadly blades that tear through anything in their path.


[11-May-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
>The Journal confirmed details of the weapon and its uses with more than a dozen current and former U.S. officials. It is also known colloquially as “the flying Ginsu” or “the ninja bomb” for the blades it carries. It has been under development since early 2011, the newspaper said.


[11-May-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[11-May-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
THIS is their response to "reduce collateral damage"?


[11-May-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make missiles that basically throw a bunch of swords into people


[11-May-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
>The U.S., like other nations, has previously used concrete bombs—weapons without explosive warheads designed to kill using kinetic energy—as a way to avoid collateral damage caused by warheads detonating. But the R9X’s added blades mark an evolution in design.


[11-May-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man this Krull reboot is weird


[11-May-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's definitely less indiscriminately deadly than high explosive warheads


[11-May-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
though I wouldn't say it's less indiscriminate than just "concrete bombs"


[11-May-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-09/aoc-bernie-sanders-credit-card-interest?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_c


[11-May-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez accused banks of acting as “modern-day loan sharks” and called on Congress to enact a federal limit of 15% on credit card interest rates.

The two self-identified democratic-socialists are set to propose legislation on Thursday capping rates on credit card and other consumer loans and letting post offices offer low-cost basic financial services, such as loans and checking and savings accounts.

An outline of the plan released ahead of their formal announcement sharply criticized banks for charging on average more than 17% interest on credit card balances while they are able to borrow money at less than 2.5%.


[11-May-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/trumps-claims-of-100-billion-in-chinese-tariff-payments-just-dont-add-up.html

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Trump's claims of '$100 billion' in Chinese tariff payments just d...
The burden of higher tariffs will fall on buyers of Chinese made products and, ultimately, American consumers.
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[11-May-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
>President Donald Trump on Friday claimed a victory of sorts in an ongoing trade war with China, asserting that his latest round of import tariffs on Chinese goods will force China to pay "$100 billion" to the U.S. Treasury.


[11-May-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
>Not only is Trump overstating the amount of those payments, he's apparently unaware of who pays customs duties.


[11-May-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesn;t know jack shit about tariffs and I'm willing to bet he fires anyone who tells him they donlt work how he thinks they work


[11-May-19 02:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*The burden of higher tariffs will fall on buyers of Chinese made products*


[11-May-19 02:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh you mean ***everything in North America***


[11-May-19 02:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*almost everything but close enough


[11-May-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics/pentagon-trump-border-wall/index.html

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Pentagon diverts another $1.5 billion for Trump's border wall
The Pentagon has diverted an additional $1.5 billion in Defense Department funds from various accounts in order to fund President Donald Trump's border wall, acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan told reporters Friday.
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[11-May-19 02:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🤦


[11-May-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/10/us/politics/trump-tax-returns-subpoena.html

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House Ways and Means Chairman Subpoenas Trump Tax Returns
Richard E. Neal, the panel’s chairman, dropped his use of a century-old provision in the tax code and instead used a more common instrument to demand President Trump’s tax returns: the subpoena.
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[11-May-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/10/politics/wh-mcgahn-request-obstruction/index.html

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White House asked McGahn to say Trump didn't obstruct justice, but...
The White House requested that former White House counsel Don McGahn publicly state that President Donald Trump didn't obstruct justice, but McGahn declined, an administration official told CNN on Friday.
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[11-May-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised the economy didn't crash this week, it would've made a fitting climax to the absolute shitshow it's been


[11-May-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-May-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fe695d7270244645b8ffe34249f82212

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The Latest: Trump administration ups tariff talk on China
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the tariffs standoff between the United States and China (all times local): 6:50 p.m. U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer says his office is...
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[11-May-19 04:41 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/10/vladimir-putin-hockey-fall-hockey-exhibition

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Vladimir Putin scores at least eight goals in hockey exhibition, t...
The Russian president took a face-first spill after leading his team in scoring during a Friday night exhibition at Sochi’s Bolshoy Ice Dome
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[11-May-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and fell over once


[11-May-19 04:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
yep


[11-May-19 04:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
glorious sportsman can score all he wants but trips over a rug


[11-May-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone was later executed for bearing witness


[11-May-19 04:55 PM] Litrojia#0612

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[11-May-19 04:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
2 is definitely going to siberia


[11-May-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55869d792c66493e97c5c96ea87dc8ef

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Self-impeach? Talk shifts toward Trump defiance of Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has introduced a new concept into the debate over President Donald Trump's actions: "self-impeaching." As Trump all but goads Democrats into...
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[11-May-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have witnessed my trip first hand, to siberia with you!


[11-May-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>As Trump all but goads Democrats into impeachment proceedings , viewing the showdown as potentially valuable for his 2020 re-election campaign , Democrats are trying to show restraint. Their investigations are both intensifying but also moving slowly as Democrats dig into the special counsel’s Trump-Russia report and examine Trump’s finances and governance.

The more they push, the more Trump resists, the president making what Pelosi says is his own case for impeachment with his stonewalling of Congress.

“The president is self-impeaching,” she told her colleagues last week during a private caucus meeting, echoing comments she also aired in public. “He’s putting out the case against himself. Obstruction, obstruction, obstruction. Ignoring subpoenas and the rest.”


[11-May-19 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1127033553533972480?s=19

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Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell)
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[11-May-19 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god! not the chick fil-a I don't live anywhere near! Don;t take that form me!


[11-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
liberals :nut: for my :chickun:


[11-May-19 05:39 PM] Litrojia#0612
read "chicken" as "children" at first


[11-May-19 05:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://twitter.com/chuckwoolery/status/1127216612203991040

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Nailed It! President Trump Introduces New Nickname for Mayor Pete Buttigieg — Alfred E. Neuman from Mad Magazine https://t.co/SLvXl8vSH7
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[11-May-19 05:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
gottem

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[11-May-19 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US media is full of presidents getting assassinated


[11-May-19 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And yet, Trump still stands


[11-May-19 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He has the maturity of a 13yo


[11-May-19 05:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe that's why he hasn't been. Perhaps he's performing as intended. :ponythinking: 🤔 :ponythinking:


[11-May-19 05:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Then again, no one went after Obama and last I checked the entire south hated him lol


[11-May-19 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
better dead than black amirite


[11-May-19 06:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would wager that anyone who hates Trump to such a criminally violent degree would also bear some ill will for Pence


[11-May-19 06:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's probably why we haven't heard of any attempts


[11-May-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and trump is probablty always holed up in his impenatrable golf club in florida


[11-May-19 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There have been a few attempts but msot of thme were by morons hopping the white hosue fence and running towards the building with a knife

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[11-May-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i wouldnt call those professional assassins


[11-May-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-May-19 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/bnaceq/if_you_could_eliminate_a_race_within_the_year/

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r/formula1 - If you could eliminate a race within the year, which ...
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[11-May-19 07:09 PM] Litrojia#0612
second highest post of all time on r/formula1


[11-May-19 07:09 PM] Litrojia#0612
lol


[11-May-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
5 platinum, 15 gold, and 18 silver


[11-May-19 07:10 PM] Honahue#0656
I hope they mean like LeMons


[11-May-19 07:10 PM] Litrojia#0612
>reddit silver


[11-May-19 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
he doesn't like monaco


[11-May-19 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
>From my perspective, and it’s not going to be a popular one, but it would have to be Monaco. As years have gone by, it’s become too much of a procession/parade than a race for me, not enough space or opportunities to overtake on the circuit, making it more of a team tactics battle rather than a race.


[11-May-19 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
lmao <https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/bnaceq/if_you_could_eliminate_a_race_within_the_year/en3ts3u>


[11-May-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MrButterChicken/status/1055920410850717696

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[11-May-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
I hate it when I google the text in a tweet and just find a wall of me.me links instead of the original tweet


[11-May-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
had to find the original libertarian party tweet and then scroll until I could ctrl-F the reply


[11-May-19 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cf0e0c3184fd461fbc2b98144f091967

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'Heartbeat' laws could ban most abortions across Deep South
If a new Mississippi law survives a court challenge, it will be nearly impossible for most pregnant women to get an abortion there. Or, potentially, in neighboring Louisiana. Or Alabama. Or...
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[11-May-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg looks nothing like Alfred E. Neuman


[11-May-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, you know who is the last candidate who got that comparison thrown at him?


[11-May-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barack Obama.


[11-May-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump's too much of a Boomer to know who Sheldon Cooper is


[11-May-19 08:24 PM] Honahue#0656
Dems should run on a platform of mandatory abortion


[11-May-19 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
Children are awful and clearly we aren't deserving of anything good


[11-May-19 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/be8ef05660ef46149ab15ae1291d2eb1

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Shanahan wants secure border without continuous military aid
MCALLEN, Texas (AP) — On a trip to a border city in Texas, acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan said Saturday he intends to accelerate planning to secure the border and bolster the...
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[11-May-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A lot of these anti abortion bills also want to make miscarriages capital offense...


[11-May-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You failed to be our baby factory, you have outlived your usefulnes to us as a womb. NOW DIE FOR IT!"


[11-May-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the conservative political talking heads have decided to back biden as the presumptive democrat candidate for 2020 already


[11-May-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/jjZPU

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Limbaugh says Democratic presidential primary may be over with Bid...
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[11-May-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
>Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh said Friday that former Vice President Joe Biden may have already won the Democratic presidential primary and that President Trump may benefit from disenfranchised Bernie Sanders voters.


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/cable-news-is-covering-biden-as-much-as-every-other-democratic-candidate-combined/

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Cable News Is Covering Biden As Much As Every Other Democratic Can...
In the first full week of his 2020 campaign, former Vice President Joe Biden continued to dominate cable news coverage on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC. According to …
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[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
that explains why


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives like Biden


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
>In the first full week of his 2020 campaign, former Vice President Joe Biden continued to dominate cable news coverage on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC. According to data from the TV News Archive, which chops up TV news into 15-second clips that we access using the GDELT Project’s Television API,1 Biden was mentioned in more clips that any other candidate across the three networks last week, and he was mentioned almost four times as often as Sen. Bernie Sanders, who had been getting the most coverage of any 2020 candidate before Biden joined the race.


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he's old, white, and doesn't truly like gays


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The old people will vote him just as they did Hillary


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
the mainstream media's pushing biden hard


[11-May-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers need to die.


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
wonder how many backdoor deals he made to have that happen


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't need any


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers hate Bernie


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are evil fukks.


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
Biden is the Hillary of this election


[11-May-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cable news is run by Boomers.


[11-May-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole of society is.


[11-May-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We will be much, much better off when they are all dead.


[11-May-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
society won't make it to their deaths


[11-May-19 09:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
He'll probably lose a bit of steam as it goes on, but unless something happens to Biden or another candidate really catches on, the other Dems are gonna have trouble beating Biden and his insider support


[11-May-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
MeToo is the only thing that could easily stop Biden.


[11-May-19 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Libs stats: OWNED https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/bn8n7y/did_ben_shapiro_get_destroyed_by_a_bbc/

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[11-May-19 09:56 PM] Litrojia#0612
There was already a bit of MeToo surrounding Biden


[11-May-19 09:56 PM] Litrojia#0612
but that hasn't stopped him


[11-May-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suburban women are like the only voting bloc that can challenge old white shitheads.


[11-May-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wine Moms


[11-May-19 09:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
the thing that's shit about the dem primary election is that with so many candidates, it's tough for anyone to actually have the majority


[11-May-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just go for Buttigieg


[11-May-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburban women like him


[11-May-19 09:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
12 Republicans were in it in 2016 when Iowa came around


[11-May-19 09:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
it's gonna be similar with Democrats this time


[11-May-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well except for my aunt who says she'd never vote for him because "it's not a Christian way to live"


[11-May-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think she got upset about his fight with Pence


[11-May-19 09:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
My center-right "suburban white mom" likes Biden


[11-May-19 09:58 PM] Litrojia#0612
sees him as a centrist


[11-May-19 09:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
but it sounds like she'd still vote Trump


[11-May-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mine doesn't like Bernie but likes Biden and Pete


[11-May-19 10:00 PM] Litrojia#0612
Mine hasn't mentioned anyone besides Biden, Bernie, and Warren


[11-May-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't get it because she thinks Bernie is too old but she likes Biden


[11-May-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/X9KJFyB.jpg

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[11-May-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's like wut


[11-May-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never about age


[11-May-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
People like that find shallow excuses


[11-May-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
boomer culture is based entirely around shitty conservatism and lies


[11-May-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Blind consumerism


[11-May-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically really thin fascism


[11-May-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't like X because it's foreign, but you say it's because they sing bad


[11-May-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't like Y because of selfishness, but you blame it on something about age


[11-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is that you can rely on shared culture with fellow boomers to boost your racist, sexist etc. views


[11-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Without having to ever actually akknowledge that it's about such.


[11-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
bla bla bla Mexican's don't speak English!


[11-May-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rap isn't music, so people in the ghetto are kinda dumb!


[11-May-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zoomers are gonna do that


[11-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't like Bernie's hair, nothing to do with his policies!


[11-May-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Trump exists


[11-May-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, apparently fox news is saying that steve cohen eating KFC during barr's no-show was "racially insensitive"


[11-May-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how?


[11-May-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-pundits-diamond-and-silk-label-rep-steve-cohens-william-barr-chicken-stunt-racist

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‘Fox & Friends’ Pundits Label Rep. Steve Cohen’s William Bar...
The Fox News livebloggers say it was racially insensitive for Cohen to bring a range of visual chicken gags to William Barr’s congressional no-show.
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[11-May-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
sorry, steve cohen


[11-May-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
representative


[11-May-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they realize barr isn't black right?


[11-May-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1124272344384593923

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Fox's Diamond & Silk accuse Rep. Steve Cohen, a white man, of being "racially insensitive" by eating fried chicken to mock William Barr, another white man. https://t.co/kmQV6P8ZSk
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[11-May-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, fried chicken is racist to white people!


[11-May-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the horror!


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
only niggers would eat fried chikken


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
a white person doing it is thus clearly done to insult them.


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they're *conservatives*


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, your racial identity is a huge part of you as a person.


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't eat fried chikken in public.


[11-May-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right, all of their racial stereotypes are outdated. i forgot that


[11-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes you look bad to your rich white friends.


[11-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't look like you would be named Tyrone.


[11-May-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of not being exactly in lokk-step with white culture is foreign to them.


[11-May-19 10:13 PM] Litrojia#0612
My white conservative family took me to KFC all the time


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
On TV?


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile white culture moved on without them and they dont evne realize this


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you can go out to dinner at KFC


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
but showing off eating chikken


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
in public


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's what's got Fox News trying to say it's racist


[11-May-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i ate fried chicken in public and have not once been confronted by peopel calling me racist


[11-May-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try it on C-Span sometime


[11-May-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
guaranteed Ben Shapiro will be making a case that blakk people shouldn't vote for you


[11-May-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i;m just a no one and ben shapiro has 12 followers on youtube


[11-May-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
:sosmol:


[11-May-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so maybe he;s right


[11-May-19 10:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
That one's just a shitty mainstream attempt at a smear. I honestly don't think typical conservatives think that way.


[11-May-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it depends on how old and rich you are


[11-May-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News is very out of touch with the common person


[11-May-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire audience is white men over 50 who wank it to the idea of preventing blakk people from voting in sufficient numbers to matter.


[11-May-19 10:18 PM] Litrojia#0612
That's my issue, I don't think conservatives are racist by nature


[11-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives by nature require an outgroup to fear/hate, it's their entire outlook


[11-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't hav to be race


[11-May-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
race is just really easy


[11-May-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
(cause it's visible on your skin)


[11-May-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a learned thing, but it;s a learned thing built on natural fear instncts


[11-May-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and reinforced by hatred,  hiveminding, and peer pressure


[11-May-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental liberal/conservative split psychologically is about how you deal emotionally with things


[11-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, some Africa kid with most of his chest missing


[11-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
gore all over


[11-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals look and they clutch their own chests


[11-May-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives look and they go throw up


[11-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals tend to be more curious and sympathetic. In a conversation, if someone looks to the side randomly, a liberal will often look to see what they are looking at.


[11-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will not.


[11-May-19 10:23 PM] Litrojia#0612
Now listen, I lean left, but I think this is hypocritical


[11-May-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's hypocritical?


[11-May-19 10:26 PM] Litrojia#0612
Liberals have hive minds and peer pressure too. I hear these exact same arguments from conservatives.


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do, but to a lesser extent, that's kind of the entire point of the split.


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are more likely to listen to other sides


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
I don't have much to add with the sympathy stuff. From my experience, I haven't noticed if conservatives are any meaner than liberals, if that's what you're getting at


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you misunderstand


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't inferred results from other actuals


[11-May-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are what the research indicates


[11-May-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're generalizations of observations


[11-May-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying conservatives are *meaner* because they tend to respond less to imagery of others being hurt and respond more with disgust


[11-May-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying *that's a fact*, and from that we can figure out what the hell is going on politically.


[11-May-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've yet to see anything indicating conservatives tend toward being meaner


[11-May-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a bit of research however that may explain this more


[11-May-19 10:29 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'll take your word with the research. I just equated sympathy with compassion and generally being a nice person.


[11-May-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand


[11-May-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
where do I fall if gore doesn't faze me


[11-May-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals aren't highly compassionate *overall* compared to conservatives


[11-May-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are more highly compassionate *to strangers and people outside their groups in general*


[11-May-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another bit of research has indicated that love for the ingroup...is associated with hatred for the outgroup


[11-May-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] You're pretty liberal, really


[11-May-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gore for me depends on context


[11-May-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I mean for one thing, you constantly push for reform


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
apparently rush limbaugh just straight up admitted to being a reactionary on air


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Treatment of the "other" leads to liberals embracing new ideas


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
since new is effectively foreign


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
he said he doesn't like to pre-plan any of his speeches/debates/whatever and just react to whatever someone else is saying


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
duh


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
Sounds about right


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, heading into inferences land now


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought they were open aboutt his


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
of course he doesn't plan them


[11-May-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't just some mean evil demons or whatever


[11-May-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're people who tend to go by gut feeling, and their gut feeling is all about fear, anxiety, disgust, etc.


[11-May-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't even necessarily *value* thinking rationally.


[11-May-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: private sector scientists tend to be republicans and public sector scientists tend to be democrats


[11-May-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
and it's about a 50-50 split


[11-May-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why seeing someone eating chikken like that tends to make them think it's an opportunity to get blakks to not vote for dems


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They...don't *care* about whether it's rational


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just get reminded of blakk people by eating chikken.


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
but over 98% of climate scientists overall agree that climate change is caused by humanity


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes them feel disgust


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they shunt that disgust to Democrats


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah but fried chicken is delicious


[11-May-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means they then take their own racist views and spin them against Democrats


[11-May-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone close to moderate will realize that's insane


[11-May-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP is the Grand Old Projection


[11-May-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Fox News caters to the most conservative demographics


[11-May-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Feels before reals" as Its likes to say isn't just some new thing


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally how the more extreme conservatives operate


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire worldview is based on being afraid and angry and disgusted and nervous.


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning is everything as a result.


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is shit in modern society but like


[11-May-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a tribal society


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism makes a lot of sense


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it means you don't even trust your allies


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
"Feels Before Reals" Bench Appearo's hit new single


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
so you can stop them from betraying you


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it means you go to war earlier, before you hav good cause


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
being a lying asshole tribe that's constantly paranoid


[11-May-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
is very very healthy when everyone's like that.


[11-May-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism and how it accepts outsiders can help mediate under those conditions, but it alone will get everyone killed by conservatives.


[11-May-19 10:39 PM] RYDE#8862
Princess Luna. Aren't you drained from all the politics and other taxing topic?


[11-May-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
>taxing


[11-May-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
do you think that the pentagon's making up fake intelligence about iran's supposed plans to attack US forces in order to justify a war against iran


[11-May-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Applied psychology is a way to refuel.


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the pentagon did the same thing before declaring war on iraq


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's just embellished, Crow


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
not outright falsified


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
you know the deal


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
we're already sending a carrier group to the area


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
sources report X Y and Z regular things


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Person alpha spins a web out of them


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
person beta summarizes the web falsely


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
person gamma, the president, declares war


[11-May-19 10:40 PM] RYDE#8862
Tiring topic is what I meant with the taxing, princess Luna.


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't tiring.


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] RYDE#8862
So you have not tire at all?


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
with everyone at peace


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
with no threat of our daughters being stolen for sex slavery


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
and with all this free trade


[11-May-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism is retarded


[11-May-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It only makes sense as a bit of braking so we don't trust China


[11-May-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's not doing that


[11-May-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
αβγ ΑΒΓ


[11-May-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's outright leading us right into tanking our own economy fighting them in a way that makes no sense


[11-May-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
it's the fastest and most visible way to show that the president is doing something without actually solving the problem


[11-May-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is part of conservatism's problem


[11-May-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's so caught up with feelings it neglects reality


[11-May-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just throw out some tariffs, it will appease the masses that donlt understand how they work


[11-May-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
if china hits back like they did last time though, the subsidies that trump is sending to the farmers will be come unsustainable


[11-May-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
that'll likely be the way that our economy tanks


[11-May-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but the masses don;t know this so it's all good~


[11-May-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Since trump likes to put his name on everything he can have this one dedicated to him


[11-May-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
The Trump Recession


[11-May-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps going to kill our economy and thne try and blame it on the democrats anyway despite it was his tariff addiction and tax cuts thaty put us there


[11-May-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if it happens before 2020 that just gives him more  stretch material for election time


[11-May-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm more offended he was eating KFC


[11-May-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I make the best trade deals! The dirty commie democrats sank your economy and tried to blame me! we'll show them!"


[11-May-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The absolute worst fast food fried chicken


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I havent had Church's though it looks better


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
I had some el pollo loco a couple months ago, I thought it was good


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
it isn't fried though, it's grilled


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not fried chicken if it's not fried


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nando's is making inroads in the US


[11-May-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's good


[11-May-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think he just chose kfc because it;s the msot widely known fried chicken


[11-May-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
or it's the closest place to congress


[11-May-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[11-May-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
also, this article is borderline tabloid shit


[11-May-19 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's like "OMG! TRUMP SAID A THING!!!"


[11-May-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah good point


[11-May-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/44b86b14141a41a6a3efc857273eb7d3

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North Carolina 'bathroom bill' sponsor bidding for US House
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A North Carolina legislator best known as the architect of the state's so-called bathroom bill three years ago is racking up contributions and endorsements as he runs in the...
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[11-May-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-May-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Use paper


[11-May-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And recycle it


[11-May-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Eating just one Fortune 500 CEO can do more against global warming than going vegan or driving electric


[11-May-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
technically, you would have to eat the board of directors too


[11-May-19 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
since they could just replace the CEO


[11-May-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Human steaks


[11-May-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
the great thing about companies is that they can outlive the people who made them


[11-May-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
the bad thing about companies is that they can outlive the people who made them


[11-May-19 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yeet and eat all the rich


[11-May-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeat


[11-May-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eat the board of directors, save a planet


[11-May-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give a hoot, eat a boot


[11-May-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[11-May-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[11-May-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we must enact rich conversion therapy: me must convert the rich into poor people


[11-May-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Being rich is a mental disorder


[11-May-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
there should be a series where a rich dude who's never had to live with less than a hundred thousand dollars a year has to work at the average lower class salary job for a month while also balancing their own budget without going into debt


[11-May-19 11:04 PM] RYDE#8862
Speaking of rich people, I wonder if Diamond Tiara will continue to befriend the Cutie mark crusaders despite the fact that she's a rich filly


[11-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but knowing tv they woudl film the whole thing in a single day, and after that the rich guy will have learned nothing


[11-May-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
she didn't even make a single appearance in season 8


[11-May-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
and like one cameo in season 7


[11-May-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she died on the way back to her homeworld


[11-May-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure that they don't plan on doing anything with diamond tiara anymore


[11-May-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
her only schtick was being a bully


[11-May-19 11:05 PM] RYDE#8862
I mean Silver spoon was the one who voted for Pipsqueak.


[11-May-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok and then what


[11-May-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
silver spoon had a single background appearance in season 8 too


[11-May-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
which is more than diamond tiara got


[11-May-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9385a58795f04eebad0804f0394c91ff

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Texas boys ranch moves forward as more men discuss abuse
DALLAS (AP) — When Allan Votaw stepped onto Cal Farley's Boys Ranch in Texas in 1957, the 5-year-old hoped he and his two brothers — ages 3½ and 6 — had found a home. Instead, the now-66-year-old...
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[11-May-19 11:07 PM] RYDE#8862
And she's seen on Cutie Mark day camp

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[11-May-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Diamond Tiara had her arc done


[11-May-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't ruin it by bringing her back


[12-May-19 01:19 AM] ononim#8141
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[12-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[12-May-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/443226-trump-moves-dc-july-4-fireworks-display-plans-to-deliver-remarks

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Trump moves DC July 4 fireworks display, plans to deliver remarks:...
President Trump has reportedly taken a personal interest in his administration's plan for July 4 celebrations in Washington D.C., and has notified city officials of plans to potentially alter the yearly celebration with a personal address.
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[12-May-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess the washington dc 4th of july tradition is going to be a maga rally this year


[12-May-19 02:45 AM] RYDE#8862
@Itsthinking ok. I'm not going to bring that up.


[12-May-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a452a620bceb44a58ebda6a7112b23bc

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States bring price fixing suit against generic drug makers
BOSTON (AP) — Attorneys general from more than 40 states are alleging the nation's largest generic drug manufacturers conspired to artificially inflate and manipulate prices for more than 100...
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[12-May-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>... different generic drugs, including treatments for diabetes, cancer, arthritis and other medical conditions.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Connecticut on Friday, also names 15 individual senior executives responsible for sales, marketing and pricing.

Connecticut Attorney General William Tong, a Democrat, said investigators obtained evidence implicating 20 firms.

“We have hard evidence that shows the generic drug industry perpetrated a multibillion dollar fraud on the American people,” Tong said. “We have emails, text messages, telephone records and former company insiders that we believe will prove a multi-year conspiracy to fix prices and divide market share for huge numbers of generic drugs.”


[12-May-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny when real conspiracy theories "come out" because literally everyone can tell you that the conspiracy theory has been happening for years before it's officially identified


[12-May-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
despite all the grand claims being made by AGs, everyone's known everything they're saying has been happening for over a decade


[12-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1127280257965412352

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1127280257965412352
I won the 2016 Election partially based on no Tax Returns while I am under audit (which I still am), and the voters didn’t care. Now the Radical Left Democrats want to again relitigate this matter. Make it a part of the 2020 Election!
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[12-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[12-May-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/FoxNewsSunday/status/1117425045264117760

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Chris asks @PressSec if the President will tell the IRS not to release his tax returns #FNS https://t.co/RBaVniYMKj
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[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
"I don’t think Congress, particularly not this group of Congressmen and women are smart enough to look through the thousands of pages that I would assume that president Trump’s taxes will be"


[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
"""""""""""""""""""""the thousands of pages that I would assume that president Trump’s taxes will be"""""""""""""""""""""


[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
you mean


[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
the two pages of all the taxes he didn't pay


[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
and bitch


[12-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
I do my own taxes


[12-May-19 07:33 AM] Mikey#7286
trump probably has some lackey do his when he does do them


[12-May-19 07:35 AM] Mikey#7286
"decades of success"


[12-May-19 07:36 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess 8 years of losses and business closures is "success"


[12-May-19 11:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/11/opinion/sunday/jacinda-ardern-social-media.html

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Opinion | Jacinda Ardern: How to Stop the Next Christchurch Massacre
Social media needs reform. No one should be able to broadcast mass murder.
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[12-May-19 11:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait to see what ham-fisted idiocy comes from this


[12-May-19 11:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was American culture that did this


[12-May-19 11:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sites where you can just cocoon and seethe and bathe in people telling you you are right


[12-May-19 11:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But this idiot is wrong, and Americans cannot and should not comply.


[12-May-19 11:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh these videos exist to exemplify our failure and are valuable for that


[12-May-19 12:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The solution is screening and educating the youth before they start shitposting on 4chan basically


[12-May-19 12:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We basically have to tell kids how to differentiate between reality and the Internet


[12-May-19 12:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Look if you become a school shooter people online will laugh at you forever."


[12-May-19 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine throwing your life away like that when fully immersive VR will happen in our lifetime


[12-May-19 01:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You won't see your waifu ever again if you throw it away


[12-May-19 01:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Murderers don't get their waifus


[12-May-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we tried that for drugs with D.A.R.E. and that didnt turn out so well


[12-May-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rather dare tried to be so relatable to kids that it aged poorly after awhile


[12-May-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure it;s been updated since then though


[12-May-19 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I heard from teachers it's less about drugs and more about making better choices in general now


[12-May-19 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DARE actually made kids _more_ likely to use drugs


[12-May-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, they also made it seem liek drugs were just going to fall into your lap for free


[12-May-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again maybe that part applied more to cities than rural townships


[12-May-19 04:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1127337211777757191?s=21

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I think that China felt they were being beaten so badly in the recent negotiation that they may as well wait around for the next election, 2020, to see if they could get lucky & have a Democrat win - in which case they would continue to rip-off the USA for $500 Billion a y...
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[12-May-19 04:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1127337212813742082?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1127337212813742082?s=21
....The only problem is that they know I am going to win (best economy & employment numbers in U.S. history, & much more), and the deal will become far worse for them if it has to be negotiated in my second term. Would be wise for them to act now, but love collecting BIG T...
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[12-May-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, there goes the stock market plummeting again since he said tariffs


[12-May-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many people he;s fired for trying to explain how tariffs work to him


[12-May-19 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember how just days before this he was crowing about how strong the economy was


[12-May-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If the stock market is doing well the economy is doing well! We have the greatest stock market, The best even! That means we have the greatest economy, the best even!"


[12-May-19 04:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I just ran across this article/guide to reading the Mueller Report's conclusions on the connection between the Trump campaign and Russia, and it's a good read. Ironically, this link came via a MAGA guy who linked it (evidently without reading one word of the article itself) to support his claims of no collusion https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/

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Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
Essential reading on the Mueller Report: an annotation plus key findings, drawing on investigative reports and Special Counsel court filings.
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[12-May-19 04:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was sketchy


[12-May-19 04:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What was sketchy?


[12-May-19 04:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their interactions


[12-May-19 04:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And him saying that they should hack the US to find emails


[12-May-19 04:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And his business connections etc


[12-May-19 04:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think you'd better read that article 'cause it lays it out in a way that's a lot clearer than just saying it was "sketchy"


[12-May-19 04:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if I had to qualify it, I'd call it "plain as day"


[12-May-19 05:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Skimming it and yeah I don't get why Mueller said there wasn't enough


[12-May-19 05:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What would be enough then


[12-May-19 05:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he just knew Congress wouldn't do anything so held back


[12-May-19 05:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
now why would he think Congress wouldn't do anything? They want the president's blood more than anyone


[12-May-19 05:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is why https://preview.redd.it/wl5fxjmccsx21.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=865529aa75277947a03f9e9a3daf0e5803a89ab9

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[12-May-19 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the question is, why didn't anyone grill Barr on why it was Mueller thought he was prevented from doing so, whether Barr told him it was his job to reach such a conclusion (as he claimed in his testimony), why he was not given a chance to revise the report in light of this, and whether Mueller knew Barr intended to make that conclusion for him


[12-May-19 05:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If someone wonders why people claim Barr interfered with the report itself (besides misrepresenting it and spinning the release), rather than ending the investigation 6 months early (which has a plausible explanation), this is why


[12-May-19 05:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's biased


[12-May-19 05:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, Mueller's probably more right - if DOJ policy not to indict a sitting president means that the Office could not make a prosecutorial judgement, then Barr should not have done so either; it was supposed to be up to Congress. There's a difference between the options Mueller had available and the way Barr/Rosenstein presented them (that led to the President, and much of the media, to presume an innocent verdict)


[12-May-19 05:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Exact opposite was said tho


[12-May-19 05:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No exoneration


[12-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
mueller didn't make any judgement about the president because he didn't believe he could without starting criminal proceedings


[12-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
innocent until proven guilty etc.


[12-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
the real question is, where are the criminal proceedings?


[12-May-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
dude is a massive fraud


[12-May-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b8b68b10a50d4b509c31b7e9428b0f11

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White House expects China to retaliate over trade tariffs
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. is awaiting retaliation from China over increased tariffs, after talks in Washington ended without a deal on trade, the president's chief economic adviser said on...
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[12-May-19 05:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, neither mueller nor Barr said "total exoneration," that came from Trump's tweet


[12-May-19 05:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for criminal proceedings, that has to come from Congress, via the impeachment process, so long as he is in office; things are taking longer than necessary because right now there isn't even a chance of an impeachment vote passing because of pressure from the GOP


[12-May-19 05:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And Pelosi (and others) are unwilling to make that vote happen and have it fail because it'd make the next step, whatever that might be, even more impossible; their approach seems to be to wait out the President until either the entire constitution is undermined or the pressure from bad-faith GOP leadership can be subverted through good faith channels. Which is *stupid* but it's the only winning scenario


[12-May-19 05:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
More optimistically, the spectre of impeachment is being used to cook the pot and it's landing just about everyone following Trump's directive to block all subpoenas in deep legal trouble


[12-May-19 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/chrisapplegate/status/1127567102511071233

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This series of posts on Reddit legal advice is just *chef kisses fingers*
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[12-May-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice


[12-May-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48242766

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'Sex strike' urged in abortion law protest
#MeToo activist Alyssa Milano, one of the actors opposing Georgia's law, calls for a sex strike.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/CC4E/production/_106920325_gettyimages-1041952920.jpg


[12-May-19 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Why Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden really need each other https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/why-bernie-sanders-joe-biden-really-need-each-other-n1004576

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Why Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden really need each other
Having a foil benefits both the 70-something candidates and spells potential bad news for the rest of the large field that could get left behind.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_19/2854191/190510-2x1-bernie-biden-ew-930p_8dda94b1e3e8782432f465db40acbd0f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[12-May-19 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you talking about gay love?
You sick fuck?!


[12-May-19 07:25 PM] Litrojia#0612
I ship it


[12-May-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
elderly gay man love


[12-May-19 08:01 PM] Honahue#0656
old men need love too


[12-May-19 08:02 PM] Honahue#0656
and maybe a real general strike would be more effective than just a sex strike, if people don't care about women having control over their bodies that's unlikely to change just cause she's saying no to sex now


[12-May-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
If there's a sex strike then I suppose there will also be a rape epidemic


[12-May-19 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
that's what I meant


[12-May-19 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
they already don't care for women's bodily autonomy why would they care when women say no to sex


[12-May-19 08:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Gosh it's a good thing they passed all those heartbeat laws huh 🙄


[12-May-19 08:28 PM] Honahue#0656
it's stupid for other reasons too, like that most men that support the bills are incels anyway


[12-May-19 08:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Potential mass rape epidemic resulting in unwanted pregnancies 🙄🙄


[12-May-19 08:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
How dare women choose what to do with their bodies


[12-May-19 08:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Sorry, *"females"*


[12-May-19 08:29 PM] Honahue#0656
gotta ensure reproduction of labor somehow


[12-May-19 08:30 PM] Honahue#0656
there's a sex drought so if they make the few babies that are made mandatory to carry to term maybe they can boost that population growth


[12-May-19 08:30 PM] Honahue#0656
THE MACHINE MUST BE FED


[12-May-19 08:31 PM] DevField#5162
We need more disposables a.s.a.p


[12-May-19 08:31 PM] Honahue#0656
we're all disposable to capital


[12-May-19 08:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493185238189604875/577200868726669323/FB_IMG_1557684056695.jpg

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[12-May-19 08:45 PM] ononim#8141
Translation: "Has anyone ever thought that DUBAI is the closest we might have to a real ancap society nowadays?"


[12-May-19 08:45 PM] ononim#8141
Stealthy self burn, that's a new one


[12-May-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought they built a giant ass guillotine


[12-May-19 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
Imagine if the ~~slaves~~ happy workers having a blast working in the Gulf states :) actually stealthily build one and deal with all the sheikhs in one swoop


[12-May-19 09:12 PM] Mikey#7286
@Teaspoon that was my first thought too lol


[12-May-19 09:14 PM] Honahue#0656
It certainly looks big enough to handle quite a few


[12-May-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure any blade dropped from that distance would just obliterate the bodies of the people at the bottom


[12-May-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
even the lightest blade would weigh hundreds of pounds


[12-May-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
and likely be deforming under its own weight if it was as thin as a traditional guillotine blade


[12-May-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Why drop a blade on them and why not just throw them from the top


[12-May-19 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
This is the 21st century certainly some silicon valley tech billionaire can think of something besides 18th century blades guillotines


[12-May-19 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
Maybe a subscription based one


[12-May-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
make a rich billionaire invent a whole new method of execution he will be killed by


[12-May-19 09:19 PM] Honahue#0656
Internet of things it tells you when it's running low on billionaires


[12-May-19 09:20 PM] Honahue#0656
You know what they say though, capitalists will sell the you the rope you hang them with


[12-May-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
.q 1089


[12-May-19 09:21 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
[43/43] @Crow: this is how the nazis get you, first they relate to you, next thing you know you're gassing the jews


[12-May-19 09:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Cut more than just heads off


[12-May-19 09:21 PM] Honahue#0656
I'd say lasers but I'm pretty sure that's less humane than blades


[12-May-19 09:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Lasers can't realistically cut through flesh


[12-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
surgically implanted bombs


[12-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
instantly destroy the brain and spinal cord


[12-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
not even a period of headless consciousness


[12-May-19 09:23 PM] Honahue#0656
The point was to be quick though surgery requires a lot of effort


[12-May-19 09:23 PM] Mikey#7286
You watched resident evil and thought it was real didn't you @Honahue?


[12-May-19 09:23 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[12-May-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
you don't need to surgically implant it


[12-May-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
make the person unconscious, put a bomb in their mouth, boom


[12-May-19 09:24 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure with enough wattage you could cut people but I suspect you'd end up blowing up the local tissue as you boil the water in their body


[12-May-19 09:26 PM] Honahue#0656
It wouldn't be pretty or swift


[12-May-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
have guillotines that cut off multiple heads simultaneously ever been used?


[12-May-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't think so and youd have to make the blade heavier or start higher or the last person wouldn't get all the way through


[12-May-19 09:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Part of the point was to remove the human element of an axe


[12-May-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
it's probably more efficient to just make multiple guillotines


[12-May-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guillotines were also meant to be a spectator event, so multi headed guillotines would probably be less showy


[12-May-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
you have KE=(1/2)mv^2, mass increases energy linearly, velocity increases energy exponentially


[12-May-19 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
M/2


[12-May-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, 1/2 mv^2


[12-May-19 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but you're using gravity so you're making the things taller to speed it up


[12-May-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
basically, taller guillotine > bigger blade


[12-May-19 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Or rockets


[12-May-19 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Rocket guillotines


[12-May-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
doubling the height increases the effectiveness of a guillotine exponentially more than doubling the mass of the blade


[12-May-19 09:38 PM] Honahue#0656
Or like a linear motor in the blade rails


[12-May-19 09:39 PM] Honahue#0656
Then you could cut the height and make it easier to transport


[12-May-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: Guillotine


[12-May-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke: National Razor


[12-May-19 10:01 PM] Honahue#0656
If you wanted to get extra fancy, you make a system that tracks the gap between vertebra and mount the blade in like a voice coil so it can adjust in one direction to hit between the vertebra and needs less energy overall cause it isn't trying to go through bone


[12-May-19 10:01 PM] Honahue#0656
or course any good engineer also includes a safety margin and in this case being able to cut through bone would be a good one so kinda pointless


[12-May-19 10:07 PM] Honahue#0656
but gotta try and upsell on those guillotines


[12-May-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The true irony is that a machine designed to kill the bourgeoisie made a member of the working class with irreplaceable skills obsolete


[12-May-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/443295-kudlow-contradicts-trump-says-china-isnt-paying-tariffs-on-goods

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Kudlow contradicts Trump, says China isn't paying tariffs on goods...
White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow on Sunday contradicted President Trump, saying he didn't disagree with the characterization that China is not paying the tariffs on goods coming into the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpunhappy_05092019getty.jpg


[12-May-19 10:54 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure in the 19th century axe skills on necks was transferrable to lumberjacking


[12-May-19 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you have skills with an axe, it's pretty multi use


[12-May-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/443296-schumer-urging-pompeo-to-warn-putin-of-consequences-if-russia-interferes-in

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Schumer urging Pompeo to warn Putin of consequences if Russia inte...
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo must warn Russian President Vladimir Putin against meddling in the upcoming 2020 presidential election, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) urged on Sunday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-schumer_032719getty.jpg


[12-May-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"We will send a strongly worded letter!"


[12-May-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Putin should fear us! We have stationary and we aren't afraid to use it!"


[12-May-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously, what warning would pompeo give putin exactly? there isnt a punishment they can pass that trump won;t immediatly refuse to enforce.


[13-May-19 12:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what i would ask is what's the point in giving putin a warning anyway?


[13-May-19 12:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they either do it or they won't. no matter what we say or don't say


[13-May-19 12:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they are smart enough to know what the consequences could or could not be.


[13-May-19 12:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
same as we do


[13-May-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Gonna cry? Gonna piss your pants maybe? Maybe shit and cum?"- Putin, in response to Pompeos letter


[13-May-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
It's time to stop fucking around and sanction the shit out of russia


[13-May-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but we won't because the GOP is a bunch of pussies and they have oil


[13-May-19 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
hol up


[13-May-19 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure Russia is already sanctioned


[13-May-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia is sanctioned but the republicans refuse to enforce it


[13-May-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically while we have sanctions on russia, they arent actually doing anything because putin;s boot lick brigade is in power


[13-May-19 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
>they arent actually doing anything


[13-May-19 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
*looks at Russian economy*


[13-May-19 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
yep


[13-May-19 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
not doing anything


[13-May-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were doing things, then they stopped being enforced


[13-May-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the sanctions currently doing damage to russia are from other countries who have a backbone


[13-May-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/R4xuR5qJ7Ts

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Comrade Cora
https://youtu.be/R4xuR5qJ7Ts
YTP Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Your YouTube Recommendations
Twitch: https://twitch.tv/comradecora Patreon: https://patreon.com/comradecora CIA doc on the soviet diet: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/c...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R4xuR5qJ7Ts/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-May-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm only just now noticing shapiro wears a yarmulka


[13-May-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i;m just now learning how to spell yarmulka


[13-May-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Bench Appearo DESTROYS his cum sock to AOC's feet


[13-May-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seeing yarmulka in text is like seeing colonal in text...


[13-May-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yar- mulk-uh


[13-May-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2019/05/12/kamala-harris-vows-to-take-executive-action-on-gun-control-if-elected/amp/

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Kamala Harris vows to take executive action on gun control if elected
Sen. Kamala Harris pledged Sunday that she will pursue executive action on gun control measures if Congress fails to act in the first 100 days of her presidential administration. “I’m proposing, on…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/kamala-harris.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[13-May-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2%er in Iowa has an opinion that we're supposed to care about


[13-May-19 03:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
At this point, Harris is just Biden with more identity politics. She's tanking hard poll-wise.


[13-May-19 03:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
though I guess basically everyone is at this point


[13-May-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't wait for her and Cory Booker to drop out so Sanders can challenge Biden


[13-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
harris is not a good pick


[13-May-19 03:17 AM] Litrojia#0612
Booker was never relevant enough to matter


[13-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
there was an article from back in 2017 from how two-faced she is


[13-May-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
way before she announced her campaign


[13-May-19 03:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
she definitely comes off that way


[13-May-19 03:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
soon after her announcement, she announced her support for medicare for all at a town hall or something, then backtracked the next day, and I think she's backtracked on that since


[13-May-19 03:20 AM] Litrojia#0612
would prefer Biden over Harris tbh


[13-May-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-organ-donation-system-is-unfair-the-solution-might-be-too/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-organ-donation-system-is-unfair-the-solution-might-be-too/
Our Organ Donation System Is Unfair. The Solution Might Be Too.
At any given time, there are about 13,000 people waiting for a liver transplant in the United States. Whether the cause is a virus, alcoholism or a bit of genet…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-147200068-16x9.jpg?w=2700


[13-May-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently my state ranks number one in registered organ donors per capita


[13-May-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
93%


[13-May-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then some places hav less than half


[13-May-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I strongly suspect this is because of differing ways that you become registered


[13-May-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
over here, they ask you when you're getting a state ID/driver's license whether you want to be a donor or not


[13-May-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the system is broken and the OPO borders were stupid


[13-May-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now by ignoring the OPO borders, things are going to be shit in a different way


[13-May-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our failing healthcare system is causing a severe strain


[13-May-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, hey look, if you don't fund research, it becomes unreliable! Who KNEW? https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/this-years-cdc-gun-injury-data-is-even-less-reliable-than-last-years/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/this-years-cdc-gun-injury-data-is-even-less-reliable-than-last-years/
The CDC’s Gun Injury Data Is Becoming Even Less Reliable
Every year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issues an estimate of the number of people nonfatally injured by guns, but even by the agency’s own s…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/GUN-INJURIES-RED-16x9.jpg?w=1600


[13-May-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-shifts-funds-from-programs-to-fund-border-wall-2019-5

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The Pentagon is reportedly shifting funds from ballistic missile a...
Pentagon officials have explicitly stated that the diverted funds will not negatively affect military readiness.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5cd88ee1021b4c094d6820f2-1920-960.jpg


[13-May-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How long until this causes a new 9/11-type scenario


[13-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
> "We have very smart people here in the department, and we found ways to do this without having any impact on readiness," acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan told reporters on Friday.


[13-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
this sounds like a direct quote from trump


[13-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
not patrick shanahan's words


[13-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
like he was rehearsed on what to say


[13-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
personally by trump

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[13-May-19 06:32 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/george-soros-viktor-orban-ceu/588070/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Viktor Orbán’s War on Intellect
As the Hungarian prime minister systematically undermined his own country’s education system, one institution stood defiant: a university in the heart of Budapest, founded by George Soros.
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[13-May-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like they are very... power-hungary


[13-May-19 06:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
p l s


[13-May-19 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKxXGJUA7iI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKxXGJUA7iI
I Need To Quit, Channel Announcement And Changes Coming
I need to Quit, We Need To Make Serious Changes. The Culture War is growing due to social media addiction. Its a system that drives people to push for the mo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hKxXGJUA7iI/hqdefault.jpg


[13-May-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
god, the emotional overload in the beginning of this video is cringy as fuck lol


[13-May-19 07:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
mostly a vlog but worth sharing


[13-May-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
"we need to get back to what's important, not the fact that society's going to shit, but simple nature"


[13-May-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
there's conservatives who argue super hard against what they call the "regressive left", some of which want to abandon technology and go back to living in caves to stop global warming instead of using the tech we already have to fix the problem


[13-May-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
and then the same conservatives turn around and say "this whole argument is dumb, let's just return to nature"


[13-May-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
now he's saying that by somehow calling out the bad and making sure that the bad stays in the limelight, we're somehow "forgetting ourselves" and "losing ourselves to mindless hate", like humans are only capable of focusing on a single thing at a time


[13-May-19 08:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but there is an argument of someone being swept up into "hysteria" "mob mentality" etc. there is a valid concern of being stuck in a "tribe mentality" and loosing the plot.


[13-May-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
not very many people are "swept up" in that though, unless you consider railing against a massively unfair system that is fucking over a vast majority of people to be "swept up"


[13-May-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
saying that everyone's "swept up" is a very convenient blanket term for saying that we should stop talking about changing things and go back to not talking about it


[13-May-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
which maintains the status quo


[13-May-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
which is a cornerstone of conservatism


[13-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why woman's suffrage took so long to gain voting rights for women


[13-May-19 08:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
status quo isn't inherently a bad thing though.  Society does need stability


[13-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
except the status quo right now is incredibly fucked up on almost every level


[13-May-19 08:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and why do you think that is?


[13-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
a third of americans are a missed paycheck away from homelessness


[13-May-19 08:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
could it be that certain things in the past changed the prior status quo into something worse in the paradigm shift?


[13-May-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
the poorest americans are living in poverty that matches the poor in africa, south america, southeastern asia, and other incredibly poor locations in the world despite the US being the richest country on the planet


[13-May-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
the change happened in the 70's and especially the 80's


[13-May-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
we're only now feeling the strongest effects of the deregulation of the 80's


[13-May-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
this is the endgame of neoliberalism


[13-May-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
women are still being told what they can and can't do with their bodies in the more conservative areas of the country (abortion), and science, the thing that's brought us the unprecedented potential for human prosperity in modern times, is being attacked like it's the source of all the problems, even though it offers all the solutions needed to fix those problems


[13-May-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
and this is just talking about the US, it's much worse in other areas of the world


[13-May-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
but the US has basically no excuse for any of the problems it faces


[13-May-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
beyond the fact that its politicians aren't willing to do anything in fear of losing their absurdly large meal ticket capable of feeding the rest of the country combined 20 times over


[13-May-19 08:14 AM] Honahue#0656
how is that a question? obviously things in the past changed and the status quo changed somewhat, that's the progress of time and society. What exactly are you referring to changing though?


[13-May-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
I think his point was that things changed in the past which caused things to be bad today, so that changing things today might make things even worse in the future


[13-May-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
even though people pointed out these changes were shitty when they were happening in the past


[13-May-19 08:16 AM] Honahue#0656
it's true, we always operate on imperfect knowledge


[13-May-19 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
but what's the alternative? not make any changes, devil you know vs devil you don't


[13-May-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
people knew things were going to be bad in the future after all of the deregulation and detaxation of corporations, but I don't think people were actually expecting a third of the country to be a single missed paycheck away from homelessness


[13-May-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure if the corporate tax levels were at the same effective level they were back in the 60's today, the US would not only be able to feed the absurdly large military, but also have universal healthcare and universities actually affordable


[13-May-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think we even need to change our tax rates to fund Medicare for all


[13-May-19 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
but yes we should tax corporations more


[13-May-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
both walmart and amazon received tax refunds despite not paying any taxes last year


[13-May-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
that's how ridiculous the current tax system is


[13-May-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
there's all sorts of weird tricks especially for international corporations


[13-May-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
register in Delaware


[13-May-19 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
have offices in Ireland


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] Mikey#7286
apparently tim poole is "centre left"


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
lol no


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
it's actually called the "double Irish"


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
It's free real estate


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
used to be anyway, maybe Ireland changed something


[13-May-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
he's center-right minimum, possibly even fully right, his videos are emotional and reactionary as fuck


[13-May-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't been able to watch more than like 2 minutes of his videos every time he's linked here because of how fallacious his reasoning is


[13-May-19 08:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Outrage bait


[13-May-19 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Tim Pool thinks leftists are mad about the amazing genetic gifts that intersex athlete has


[13-May-19 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
every leftist I know thought they were out of line to force her to lower her test levels


[13-May-19 08:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tim Pool isn't capable of actual journalism


[13-May-19 08:25 AM] Mikey#7286
"Subject title ALL CAPS opinion"


[13-May-19 08:25 AM] Mikey#7286
99%- no


[13-May-19 08:25 AM] Mikey#7286
100% of his videos


[13-May-19 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
Sure she has an unfair genetic gift that makes her great at her sport, so does every NBA player over me, or Phelps' weird lactic acid production


[13-May-19 08:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tim "Clown World Is When One Person Says Something I Don't Like On Twitter" Pool


[13-May-19 08:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Tim "Clown World Is When ONE Person Says SOMETHING I Don't Like On Twitter" Pool


[13-May-19 08:28 AM] Mikey#7286
fixed


[13-May-19 08:29 AM] Honahue#0656
kek


[13-May-19 08:29 AM] Honahue#0656
🤡 🌎


[13-May-19 08:29 AM] Mikey#7286
who the hell comes up with these


[13-May-19 08:29 AM] Mikey#7286
"insults"


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
NPC


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Mikey#7286
Clown


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
clown world is where like 8 people own half the planets resources


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure the clown thing is from gamers rise up


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
HONK HONK


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clown World is, or has become a Nazi thing.


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is a hella shame.


[13-May-19 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
it started a nazi thing


[13-May-19 08:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then they deny it is, despite the main character in it being called Honkler.


[13-May-19 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
cause they are right the world is fucked up


[13-May-19 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
but they keep blaming it on marginalized people wanting to be left alone and not murdered or discriminated against


[13-May-19 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
there is a dumb gamer meme about "as a kid I wanted to be Batman as an adult Joker makes more sense" which they are so damn close to getting it


[13-May-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
cause Batman is an asshole rich dude that spends a lot of money to give himself an unfair advantage at beating up criminals


[13-May-19 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
which he could use his vast wealth to make Gotham a better place and lower crime without having to beat up petty theives


[13-May-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
he kinda sorta does that, but there's a lot of other old money families who keep it shitty because it's more profitable that way or something


[13-May-19 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
you think with his dosh he could lobby the whole city government into his pocket


[13-May-19 08:37 AM] Honahue#0656
basically pass any bills that help the poor instead of just making them go into crime to live


[13-May-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
when it's money against money, it's kinda hard to do that when he's legit and his rivals aren't


[13-May-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
doing illegal things is much more profitable


[13-May-19 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
I guess so but then shouldn't Batman beat those old money people instead?


[13-May-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
I think that's the point of him going after most of the others (besides joker), a lot of them are funded by/working for those rivals


[13-May-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
hell, I think even joker gets hired sometimes


[13-May-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
though he's only in it for his own shits and giggles


[13-May-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
(and because he knows batman will come after him)


[13-May-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/scheafferoo/status/697456434825576448

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[13-May-19 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
A pillar that fascism can crystalize around is the middle class. When the class is imaginary and any vague group with anxiety can be the middle class then they become like The Populace as a rhetorical character, something whose oppinions can be built up to present the illusion of broad social consensus for whatever current state of affairs Fascism is trying to create.


[13-May-19 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
So spoketh Umberto Eco.


[13-May-19 08:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta


[13-May-19 08:53 AM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-american-dream-is-killing-us?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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The American Dream Is Killing Us - Mark Manson - Pocket
The economic and geographic factors that brewed the American dream are weathering away and the dream is struggling to cope.
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[13-May-19 08:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then we need a new dream


[13-May-19 08:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Time to dream of a world post-capitalism


[13-May-19 08:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Uphold Marxist-Fischerian thought.


[13-May-19 08:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dare To Dream Again (tm)


[13-May-19 08:56 AM] Honahue#0656
this post brought to you by Posadism gang

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[13-May-19 08:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Culture and imagination died in the late 90's. Change my mind.


[13-May-19 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it survived into the 00's


[13-May-19 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
like mid way maybe


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
everything in the 10's feels like a copy of everything that came before


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Honahue#0656
well MCU started in 08 or 09


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
there's very little innovation


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
yes, MCU is one of the exceptions


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
thor: ragnarok was a blast


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Honahue#0656
oh no I mean the MCU definatly started to make all movies the same


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
haven't watched infinity war or endgame yet though


[13-May-19 09:01 AM] Honahue#0656
everyone is trying to copy that magic


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
though th iPhone came out in 08>


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
well no, I feel like it's only warner bros trying to copy it with the DC extended universe


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
and there's not really been anything new with phones


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Universal tried


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
with Dark Universe


[13-May-19 09:02 AM] Honahue#0656
oof


[13-May-19 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
the Conjouring has like 8 movies


[13-May-19 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
most are trash but horror movies are cheap and tend to make good returns cause of that


[13-May-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
but a lot of more modern movies just feel like slightly changed rehashes of movies from the 00's, or just straight-up modernized ripoffs of even older movies


[13-May-19 09:04 AM] Honahue#0656
they've been remaking movies forever


[13-May-19 09:05 AM] Honahue#0656
but there's defiantly been a refinement


[13-May-19 09:05 AM] Honahue#0656
things feel very samey


[13-May-19 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
though Horror movies have been really good recently


[13-May-19 09:06 AM] Honahue#0656
who knew Jordan Peele was such an excellent horror movie director


[13-May-19 09:07 AM] Honahue#0656
Heritage and VVitch are very good


[13-May-19 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Void and Annihilation are probably the best "Lovecraft" movies


[13-May-19 09:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Horror in the 10's might be like Noir was in the 40's and 50's


[13-May-19 09:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow To bring up Mark Fischer, part of his cultural critique is that there is nothing noticably new in this time period. Each decade had its own unique product, even as the eighties were partly replicating the fifties in some ways. But you could listen to music or watch a movie from a period and from it's affect or style declare safely it's from a specefic period of time. But today a lot of what's being produced feels like it's in stasis, it all sounds like the eighties or nineties again. That there's not a lot of experimentation and even a stage orlf experimentation in music is predicated on emulating the sound of the ghost of the past, the Aesthetic or Vaporwave movement.


[13-May-19 09:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fischer's intellectual project is an expansion of Derrida's hauntology, the cultural phenomenon of being "haunted" by some image of the past, whether a "real" image or a fantasy image if it.


[13-May-19 09:14 AM] Honahue#0656
the 90's are coming back into fashion, look at Nike's new collections it's all very 90's


[13-May-19 09:14 AM] Honahue#0656
will NuMetal make a come back?


[13-May-19 09:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Serj did a cover for the new Godzilla movie and it slaps


[13-May-19 09:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I was listening to the Antifada podcast last Thursday and listening to an episode of them talk about the nineties and how it's (somewhat wrongfully) remembered as a golden period.


[13-May-19 09:15 AM] Honahue#0656
not sure SOAD is nuMetal though


[13-May-19 09:15 AM] Honahue#0656
the 90's was an era of quiet despair


[13-May-19 09:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
And how the Monica Lewenski scandal actually involved Clinton or Monica eating out each other's asses.


[13-May-19 09:16 AM] Honahue#0656
everything was going good but it was also very boring and everyone knew it was kinda unethical


[13-May-19 09:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The nineties is the beginning of the Fukuyana period of history we're in.


[13-May-19 09:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Oh? Everything feels like shit? Too bad, it can't get better. Deal with it."


[13-May-19 09:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
"OK, we'll just be edgy then."


[13-May-19 09:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Related: https://youtu.be/0mix8VuGyno

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[13-May-19 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
communism failed and people knew that capitalism wasn't great, there were bad crime waves and people knew about horrors in Africa but in the West shit was pretty good, but your parents were boring and you were likely on track to be equally boring but there was nothing to rebel from cause there was no other options


[13-May-19 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
so the rebellion was toothless


[13-May-19 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
teen angst and sarcasm


[13-May-19 09:19 AM] Honahue#0656
do the same thing your parents did but with ironic detatchment


[13-May-19 09:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Rebellion was pretty much relegated to, "Man, there is no authenticity. I want to be authentic". So you just sorta lanquish in nothing and try to avoid working in The Gap. And you dream of being, like, an independent journalist.


[13-May-19 09:20 AM] Honahue#0656
tech in the mid to late 90's offered something almost


[13-May-19 09:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
It did. But now as Mark Fischer pointed out: now all that tech is used to bring us eighties Aerosmith albums faster.


[13-May-19 09:21 AM] Honahue#0656
cause that was the change of nerds being those weird guys that were good at math that worked for very rich people to nerds becoming the very rich peopel


[13-May-19 09:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can get Daft Punk and hair metal faster


[13-May-19 09:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
But nothing particularly thrilling or innovative.


[13-May-19 09:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then you have to work to hunt for it. But even then it may not exist because experimental people are sorta working in a past-gone framework.


[13-May-19 09:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Fischer is talking about pop culture more than indie culture. So less Death Grips and more anyone else


[13-May-19 09:23 AM] Honahue#0656
nothing very innovative but like I said it did switch how we see the very rich, the rich used to be the shark guy on wall street in a suit and brass balls now he's the dweedy kid good with computers


[13-May-19 09:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also since I'm talking about Fischer https://youtu.be/deZgzw0YHQI

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all of this is temporary: Mark Fisher
From Upper Crust to FOMO, Mark Fisher enlightens us all at Rich Mix, London as part of #allofthisistemporary on 23rd Feb 2016.
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[13-May-19 09:23 AM] Honahue#0656
though realistlically the shark dude on wallstreet is still more rich than the dweeby kids good with computers


[13-May-19 09:24 AM] Honahue#0656
on average, there's notable dweeby outsiders


[13-May-19 09:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dweeby people on computers are just pawns for the wallstreet sharks.


[13-May-19 09:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one being good at STEM is going to be Steve Jobs as the ruling ideology claims


[13-May-19 09:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
People like Steve Jobs have had a particular training, manneurisms, or upbringing that makes them viciously capable of enforcing their particular vision and suppress the more skilled people, in a technical respect


[13-May-19 09:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, what was Steve Jobs most well known for by the people who knew him? By being aggressive and fucking mean.


[13-May-19 09:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
He knew how to beat down anyone trying to do something he did not want.


[13-May-19 09:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Jobs was a salesman


[13-May-19 09:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Most billionaires are salesmen


[13-May-19 09:35 AM] Honahue#0656
It's amazing how much people hate salesmen til they have a billion dollars then people line up around the block to fellate them


[13-May-19 09:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I might be wrong about salesmen, most billionaires own oil


[13-May-19 09:37 AM] Mikey#7286
Jobs at least tried to make Apple a good company that made good products


[13-May-19 09:38 AM] Mikey#7286
Bill Gates is probably one of the few billionaires who's actually a decent person, because he regularly gives his wealth away


[13-May-19 09:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Jobs cracked a whip on people that actually did work


[13-May-19 09:38 AM] Mikey#7286
iirc Gates also got Apple out of a tight spot in the 90s


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i could be mistaken


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Honahue#0656
He only got rich cause he was lucky enough to have the money to buy Pixar from George Lucas


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Mikey#7286
disney owns Pixar


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Honahue#0656
Jobs was fired from Apple, he owned Pixar before it was sold to Disney


[13-May-19 09:39 AM] Mikey#7286
wait


[13-May-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
how does George Lucas tie into this?


[13-May-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lucas owned pixar?


[13-May-19 09:40 AM] Honahue#0656
George Lucas had Pixar but didn't know what to do with it


[13-May-19 09:40 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[13-May-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
lol that's funny, disney owns two things that used to belong to him now


[13-May-19 09:41 AM] Honahue#0656
And John Lassater did but wasn't much of a business type


[13-May-19 09:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Though Lassater was fired for sexual harassment recently


[13-May-19 09:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Quietly


[13-May-19 09:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bill Gates giving money to charity isn't really a good thing since in the end he's not stepping forward to advocate an annihilation of the practices that allows him to even do computers.


[13-May-19 09:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Oops I mean alleged


[13-May-19 09:42 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[13-May-19 09:43 AM] Mikey#7286
what practices?


[13-May-19 09:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like he doesn't advocate to the end of conflict minerals or actively work beyond lip service for miner's rights, because that means either he has to deal with higher prices on computers because unionized pits in the Congo, but that he indirectly encourages his workers to do something.


[13-May-19 09:44 AM] Mikey#7286
gates hasn't been with MS since like 2000 first off


[13-May-19 09:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Esspecially if he does the ultimate good thing and advocate the exploited miners get full rights to decide for themselves on how to use the capital they help produce.


[13-May-19 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
Bill Gates wasn't like a community college drop out when he started Microsoft, he was going to Harvard and his dad was a wealthy lawyer, he was on hiatus he wasn't taking any risks


[13-May-19 09:44 AM] Mikey#7286
what do miners have to do with computers


[13-May-19 09:44 AM] Honahue#0656
If Microsoft failed worst case was he goes.back to Harvard and becomes a boring millionaire instead of a billionaire


[13-May-19 09:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey all the materials in computers are sourced from open pit mines in the Congo, ran by people who hire armed mercs to force miners to dig under perilous conditions for sub-poverty wages.


[13-May-19 09:45 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Coltan I think is the mineral


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or for warlords to fund excursions against rival tribes or the government, who abuse their workers as bad as or worse.


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a conflict mineral


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
proof?


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] Honahue#0656
Essential for pretty much every electronic


[13-May-19 09:46 AM] Mikey#7286
i've never heard of this practice before


[13-May-19 09:47 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan_mining_and_ethics

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Coltan, also referred to as tantalum, is a metallic ore from which the very similar elements niobium, also known as columbium, and tantalum are extracted. Coltan mining has been associated with human rights violations such as child labour, systematic exploitation of the popul...
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[13-May-19 09:47 AM] Mikey#7286
wouldn't that be for all computers ever then?


[13-May-19 09:48 AM] Mikey#7286
why are you singling out Gates?


[13-May-19 09:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because he's the topic here. But the same goes for everyone in tech


[13-May-19 09:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
IBM, Apple, Microsoft. They're all complicate.


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
complicit*


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Gates because he paints himself as a philanthropist


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Gates in particular CAN'T say anything, but he invalidates his own existence as a CEO being necessary.


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because if miners can run their own mines, then programmers can run their own company.


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] Mikey#7286
he's not even the CEO


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Gates isn't needed


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Tim Cook is an asshole bit he doesn't pretend to be better


[13-May-19 09:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or people like Gates


[13-May-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
he rarely advises Satya Nadella


[13-May-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
who is the current CEO


[13-May-19 09:50 AM] Mikey#7286
afaik Gates spends his time running the Gates and Melinda foundation


[13-May-19 09:50 AM] Honahue#0656
It's not that he's in charge it's that he portrays himself as a philanthropist


[13-May-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
and he's not?


[13-May-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
giving money to charity doesn't sound like it to me


[13-May-19 09:51 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[13-May-19 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
His goal is contraception un Africa which might not be awful but his legacy and much of his income still comes from a business that relies on conflict minerals


[13-May-19 09:53 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[13-May-19 09:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Also charities are often a way for very rich people to avoid taxes


[13-May-19 09:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Maybe Gates doesn't but it is something to look out for


[13-May-19 09:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Philanthropy is injustice by another name. Real Justice is resolving the exploitation and suppression people who need charity are facing.


[13-May-19 09:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Gates won't do that. It drops everything built him out from under.


[13-May-19 09:57 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh i think anyone who would get wealthy would become complicit


[13-May-19 10:00 AM] Honahue#0656
That's our point, the ability to accumulate that kinda wealth comes at others expense


[13-May-19 10:01 AM] Honahue#0656
A lot of others


[13-May-19 11:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
The wealth of the rich don't come by them being good at anything. It goes to them by paying people well below the value they produce. Working and feel cheated? Probably because you are. You make them more than they pay you.


[13-May-19 11:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Capitalism


[13-May-19 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/9_volt_/status/1127620151099183104?s=20

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improving my debating skills by interacting with the masters
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[13-May-19 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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they deleted their tweet which i think means i won the debate. not sure i’m still new to this.
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[13-May-19 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/26811969c30a4aa4aee1fe93d47e2370

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San Francisco may ban police, city use of facial recognition
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco is on track to become the first U.S. city to ban the use of facial recognition by police and other city agencies, reflecting a growing backlash against a...
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[13-May-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/caca73d420354d3497c6b4fe32437687

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Trade row deepens as China ups tariffs on $60B in US goods
BEIJING (AP) — Deepening a trade battle and sending financial markets spinning, China announced Monday it was raising tariffs on $60 billion of U.S. goods in retaliation for the latest hike in...
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[13-May-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Pornhub: Asshole destroyed by BBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E

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Ben Shapiro: US commentator clashes with BBC's Andrew Neil - BBC News
He has more than 2 million followers on Twitter, 600,000 YouTube subscribers and his videos on the Daily Wire channel rack up millions of views. Ben Shapiro ...
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[13-May-19 06:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"thank you for showing anger is not part of American political discourse"


[13-May-19 06:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:dab:


[13-May-19 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.axios.com/automation-jobs-replace-united-states-location-8a2f02d4-cfd8-4310-af73-b61c71871938.html

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Midwestern counties hit hardest by previous job disruptions will b...
The national anger and polarization fueled by an urban–rural divide will only deepen.
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[13-May-19 07:03 PM] Honahue#0656
Nice hopefully my dumb town will fall right off the globe


[13-May-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural refugees are inevitable


[13-May-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/13/18617727/apple-v-pepper-antitrust-illinois-brick-supreme-court-case-loss

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Supreme Court says Apple will have to face App Store monopoly lawsuit
The case is still at an "early stage"
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[13-May-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Wtf I agree with kavanaugh


[13-May-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/443211-trump-seeks-to-limit-judges-powers-on-injunctions-after-legal

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Trump seeks to limit judges' powers on injunctions after legal blows
President Trump is looking to stop lower courts from being able to issue wide-ranging injunctions in a move that could dramatically limit the authority of judges.
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[13-May-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Trump always gets uspet when "his" judges vote against him


[13-May-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like you chose people who think like you, do _you_ follow what people expect of you? Why should they then


[13-May-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/may/12/protect-solar-system-space-mining-gold-rush-say-scientists

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Protect solar system from mining 'gold rush', say scientists
Proposal calls for wilderness protection as startup space miners look to the stars
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[13-May-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[13-May-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This solar system is ours


[13-May-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We should use it to its fullest


[13-May-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is mine to gain resources, not to hollow out the planets for cash


[13-May-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also that's a dangerous line of thought, that also comes with dire consequinces if we don;t think about our actions beforehand


[13-May-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Great swathes of the solar system should be preserved as official “space wilderness” to protect planets, moons and other heavenly bodies from rampant mining and other forms of industrial exploitation, scientists say.

The proposal calls for more than 85% of the solar system to be placed off-limits to human development, leaving little more than an eighth for space firms to mine for precious metals, minerals and other valuable materials.

While the limit would protect pristine worlds from the worst excesses of human activity, its primary goal is to ensure that humanity avoids a catastrophic future in which all of the resources within its reach are permanently used up.

“If we don’t think about this now, we will go ahead as we always have, and in a few hundred years we will face an extreme crisis, much worse than we have on Earth now,” said Martin Elvis, a senior astrophysicist at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “Once you’ve exploited the solar system, there’s nowhere left to go.”


[13-May-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Strategically and economically think about shit before moving ahead.


[13-May-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
three words: Retarded. Rape. Monkeys.


[13-May-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/gatsplatt/status/1127936626594844672

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MR RATBURN IS GAY ?!? IM CRYING
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[13-May-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
they rape the land as much as they rape each other


[13-May-19 09:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I have an economics question, I'm more educated in Business so pardon the blunders


[13-May-19 09:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>*Apple’s argument that iOS App Store users aren’t really its customers*


[13-May-19 09:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[13-May-19 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-May-19 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-12/u-s-stepping-up-enforcement-on-delinquent-student-loans


[13-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything to win, Maru


[13-May-19 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
«One in 15 borrowers has considered suicide due to their school loans, according to a survey of 829 people conducted last month by Student Loan Planner, a debt advisory group.»


[13-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were trying to use legal precedent where


[13-May-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
a brikk manufacturer couldn't be sued by someone who hired someone else to make a brikk house


[13-May-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, under the idea that they hav nothing to do with the App Store I guess


[13-May-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/11/asia/south-korea-dating-intl/index.html wtf is even south korea

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Why young South Koreans aren't interested in dating
Kim Joon-hyup recently went on his first date in three years. But the 24-year-old student wasn't looking for a girlfriend, he was completing a college assignment.
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[13-May-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't in any way unique to them


[13-May-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
the same thing is happening in Japan


[13-May-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and now the US


[13-May-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Singapore is deep into it as well


[13-May-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
High unemployment, demanding society, disallowed youth sexuality


[13-May-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
it all adds up


[13-May-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
people end up not dating, not fukking


[13-May-19 09:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's called "upcoming exams"


[13-May-19 09:30 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Well have y'all ever heard of sex toys?


[13-May-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
We made our bed, and now alone we will die in it.


[13-May-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile I read a Boomer written review of Detective Pikachu that blamed it for Japans problems


[13-May-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"kids not growing up and liking infantile things into their 20s/30s"

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[13-May-19 09:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To be honest, "Look at them, trying to complete uni and expecting to find a job"


[13-May-19 09:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Duties before cuties


[13-May-19 09:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking Worldwide trend


[13-May-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It gets clicks but the reality is closer to what @Nebbie said


[13-May-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy just wanted any excuse to shit on fans of a movie he disliked


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And don't forget, the joys on internet


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He did a similar schtick with Dragon Ball, and Avengers, and Star Wars


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
A 13-year-old asks to participate in a discussion of a sexual nature. They are rebuffed. They are chastised for even thinking of doing so. They get it drilled in to wait until they are 18.


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The majority of brain development occurs before 18.


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they grow up not trying to get into sexual relationships.


[13-May-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when they turn 18, they're put into college while working a side job.


[13-May-19 09:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Could not do it, no hot girls at high school.


[13-May-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They spend all their time emotionally drained, preparing for exams and scraping by a living while accruing massive debt that they know will doom them when they are 25.


[13-May-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time they are 25 and out of college, brain development has basically ceased.


[13-May-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they hav never had a real sexual relationship.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
25 year old virgins grow up to be 40 year old virgins, statistically.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
< Doomed


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who then go on to die virgins.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] DevField#5162
Does that really matter?


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds about right


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're going to hav a population collapse in 40 years.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] DevField#5162
as long as enough people are procreating to keep up population numbers


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] DevField#5162
Mm


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are not.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] DevField#5162
Oh well


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Replacement is only happening at a good rate in the US due to the extra effect of immigration.


[13-May-19 09:36 PM] DevField#5162
was good while it lasted fams


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why whites will be a minority.


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe isn't even getting that far.


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the few people alive now can buy land for cheap and not have to worry about supporting three generations at a time


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this creates an economic problem


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*alive then


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
20-somethings fuel the economy


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
80-somethings drain it.


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] DevField#5162
Why are immigrant populations in the US not affected by it if they are living an American lifestyle?


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are affected by it, but it takes generations


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Less people is a good thing. There are already to many


[13-May-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Initially they're poor and they reproduce a lot


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
but over time they assimilate


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
and get closer to normal wealth


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
which comes with it not reproducing


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] DevField#5162
And so the cycle will just keep repeating?


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment Mexican and Honduran immigration ceases to be a big thing


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] DevField#5162
But with whatever population takes up being the majority?


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
the US population will start to decline


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No population collapse as such. There are enough people, who breed like bunnies, no matter if they can afford it.


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The third world is advancing


[13-May-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it will not breed like bunnies forever


[13-May-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
eventually we will drill into the heads of every african child that it's not okay to think about sex before 18


[13-May-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
and we will be pressuring them into college


[13-May-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
maybe even saddling them with debt if the US gets its way


[13-May-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And with abundant food and other resources, mothers will see no need to create a second child in case the first dies etc.


[13-May-19 09:39 PM] DevField#5162
It'll be a long time before all of that starts to affect a country like africa.


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the case


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
less developed countries develop faster


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] DevField#5162
Yeah, but that's a massive cultural change


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they benefit from advances made elsewhere and skip technological steps


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
we're going to soon hit a point where every kid in Africa has a smartphone


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
When you are at the bottom the only way is up.


[13-May-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but nobody has a landline


[13-May-19 09:41 PM] DevField#5162
Like in India where everyone has a phone but a lot of people don't have toilets :twismug:


[13-May-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
When they get toilets, they get fancy ones


[13-May-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The name of the game is to leapfrog technological steps


[13-May-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
why build telephone poles when you don't even need to?


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why buil coal plants when you can get your village solar?


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Poor countries usually have better internet because they skipped the bad network that came before which rich countries used.


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Lotta kids in congo do have cell phones


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Newer technologies are incredibly good at rapid transformation of societies


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
And cheap shitty solar panels and little batteries


[13-May-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
because they require less infrastructure


[13-May-19 09:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If africa advances, most we can expect is mad max scenario


[13-May-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
3D printing is another big deal for this


[13-May-19 09:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wars, survival


[13-May-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why import products when you can import blueprints?


[13-May-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, China is investing heavily in what infrastructure Africa *does* need


[13-May-19 09:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If we bring china into it, then we may also expect global totaliarism]


[13-May-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Sewers


[13-May-19 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Tap water


[13-May-19 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Electric grid


[13-May-19 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
From sound of it, china buys everyone


[13-May-19 09:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
How about stable governments.


[13-May-19 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Destabilazing


[13-May-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, @DevField, giv Africa 40 years and it'll not be poor and overreproducing


[13-May-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're headed for population collapses in countries that currently benefit from immigration into them as a result


[13-May-19 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Invest in Africa.


[13-May-19 09:46 PM] DevField#5162
So this is just the cycle of society. Whoever develops first loses :twismug:


[13-May-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why can't you people be normal and have normal names

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[13-May-19 09:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes, because of prospects


[13-May-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, whoever has the least starting resources loses


[13-May-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
China has a shitton of land


[13-May-19 09:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And a very  good people "management"


[13-May-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they're hugely central for manufacturing


[13-May-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will win economically


[13-May-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just a matter of us diluting their shitty legalist ideology into nonexistence while they do


[13-May-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real loser tho is the environment


[13-May-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause it's where the resources are


[13-May-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
A little population deflation will help it out. I think eventually we'll stabilize.


[13-May-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that 2100 is gonna be shitty.


[13-May-19 09:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Good thing I will not live to it, neither my childen for lack of such :twismug:


[13-May-19 09:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Africa is far away from stabilization.


[13-May-19 09:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They have to learn peaceful ways, learn how to use tech, learn to say no selfishness


[13-May-19 09:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
China may stay indifinitely, unless they lose grasp on people. Look what happened to USSR.


[13-May-19 09:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(I hope, this conversation will not stack up to my profile)


[13-May-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't worry, super-aids/mega-ebola + the effects of climate change will screw that continent over, along with a hardening of migrant policies across the northern hemisphere


[13-May-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If we get out of this half century without a major pandemic it will be amazing


[13-May-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Our walled cities will survive the coming apocalypse, I'm sure


[13-May-19 09:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Are they anti-nuke-winter-climate walls?


[13-May-19 10:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like C&C 3


[13-May-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At some point the american way of "you have the sniffles? ANTIBIOTICS" will give us some super-bacteria that'll eradicate a good third of the planetary population


[13-May-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only people in super controlled or super isolated environments will survive, aside from the random immune and lucky


[13-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm so glad we opted to save the billionaires from having to sell one of their ten mansions and two of their hundred lambos by not nationalizing the pharma industry to actually fix this shit.


[13-May-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A gun costs $120, you can help solve this problem TODAY


[13-May-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One by one


[13-May-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But


[13-May-19 10:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
we will eradicate pandemics with proper vacines... if screwing around with medicine stops


[13-May-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The convenience of staying alive (or not imprisoned) is too high


[13-May-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's why you throw eggs at Megan McArdle


[13-May-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed with how many guns there are and how easy (I assume it is) to make other kinds of deadly weapons combined with the strife people suffer because of banks etc that we don't have a CEO being murdered every week


[13-May-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I would expect it to happen way more


[13-May-19 10:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because security.


[13-May-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even attempts tho


[13-May-19 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you ever see CEO out?


[13-May-19 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you actually know their movement?


[13-May-19 10:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is security.


[13-May-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Convenience is KING


[13-May-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Along with comfort


[13-May-19 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Murder is hard to get away with


[13-May-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of people with dead end/ruined lives with nothing to lose and don't care if they die


[13-May-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You could probably /kill/ any CEO/billionare for under 1k USD


[13-May-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gun, minor scouting of what fancy place they eat at, reserve a table a few times, done


[13-May-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Actually survive scot free? That's hard


[13-May-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Effort


[13-May-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And if it's effort, people won't do it


[13-May-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And if it costs them their life or freedom, people won't do it


[13-May-19 10:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is totally no guarantee, that another one takes place


[13-May-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So, status quo


[13-May-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, lots of people with no fear of throwing away their life


[13-May-19 10:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
World full of people, who have only one metric: money.


[13-May-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.axios.com/focus-group-trump-supporters-like-liberal-proposals-but-still-love-trump-66518863-c821-49ea-bab5-226c0b013de1.html

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https://www.axios.com/focus-group-trump-supporters-like-liberal-proposals-but-still-love-trump-66518863-c821-49ea-bab5-226c0b013de1.html
Iowa Trump voters want Elizabeth Warren's ideas, focus group shows
But they don't want Warren to be president.
https://images.axios.com/iZ8Cd5oqL3mnWUCjIdd7OvylihY=/0x0:1920x1080/1920x1080/2019/05/10/1557524702427.jpg


[13-May-19 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like lots of people that are lazy, stupid, or actually do still have hope for themselves, Its


[13-May-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know if this was posted


[13-May-19 10:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ethics, people, feelings is alien to them.


[13-May-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"One woman, 49-year-old Christine R., suggested big banks — in part because of the money they make from things like overdraft fees — should "fix the roads and put your name on it then. You name the road 'Wells Fargo Boulevard.'" Every other respondent in the group agreed with her idea."


[13-May-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah take a right on Wells Fargo Boulevard and you'll be on Coca Cola Street then go a mile and turn right on PornHub Avenue


[13-May-19 10:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Teaspoon "Fancy place" this place is so fancy, that you need to pay for reservation equivalent cost of a car.


[13-May-19 10:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To keep man from the street away


[13-May-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
the only people who could take out millionaire ceos would be jihadists


[13-May-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
and the remaining ones would hire bodyguards


[13-May-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, if it's that costly, find out the place and figure out the routes and openings around it


[13-May-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Walmart still sells hunting rifles, and cities are full of rental apartments, airbnb, hotels, etc.


[13-May-19 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're really dedicated, spend some years going for a job in a building or company they frequent


[13-May-19 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone wants to murder off billionaires, but none of us really wants to put in the investment or sacrifice


[13-May-19 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I know I don't


[13-May-19 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck that, I'd rather eat pizza and watch the latest Disney blockbuster movie than spend 3 years working towards getting myself killed for an idealistic payoff that may or may not happen but I'll certainly not be around to experience


[13-May-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
fbi open up


[13-May-19 10:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Is this about the Green New Deal?


[13-May-19 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not particularly no


[13-May-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-millennials-dont-have-it-tough-780348

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https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-millennials-dont-have-it-tough-780348
Joe Biden doesn't want to hear millennials complain, saying "give ...
“No, no, I have no empathy for it, give me a break.”
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/01/12/image-873728310.jpg


[13-May-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Millennials who think that times are tough in 2018 have no room to complain, according to former Vice President Joe Biden, who said that he had “no empathy” for young people who compared today to the struggles of the 1960s.

“The younger generation now tells me how tough things are—give me a break,” said Biden, while speaking to Patt Morrison of the Los Angeles Times to promote his new book. “No, no, I have no empathy for it, give me a break.”

Biden compared the complaints of millennials to what he experienced growing up in the 1960s and '70s, mentioning the civil rights and women’s liberation movements that were gaining traction simultaneously with the Vietnam War, making the United States a troubling place for young activists at the time.


[13-May-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's an old article but if he's runnign for president it's kind of a telling one


[13-May-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People fucking have gotten involved goddamn


[13-May-19 10:33 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I kinda want Bernie to win


[13-May-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i very much want bernie to win


[13-May-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh no how dare the millenials complain about the boomers who completely fucked them


[13-May-19 10:34 PM] DevField#5162
*We DiDn'T hAvE aLl oF ThEsE MeNtAl HeAlTh PrObLeMs In My DaY*


[13-May-19 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden deserves to trip on the way up capitol hill and bust in all his teath


[13-May-19 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
imo, anyway


[13-May-19 10:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
If Benie wins America will adopt that Nordic Model Burn kept talkin' about


[13-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[13-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing will happen


[13-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Legislative and states will block every inch of progress


[13-May-19 10:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Aww you saw right though it too huh?


[13-May-19 10:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I just want bernie to win so I can see how well his great plan would work even through I feel it world fail mesribly


[13-May-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
A win for Bernie will help highlight the barriers in the system to achieving a better world. It'd be likely that when Bernie tries to move on his positions to get them passed and Congress shoots them down it'll only help in raising awareness for what needs to be done. The American president may be important, but they are not absolute. Further organization and campaigning will need to be done.


[13-May-19 10:50 PM] Sally Moon#4922
They should give Bernie more pow-wait that's how dictatorships happen


[13-May-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or the French presidency, as I've heard.


[13-May-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
The  French have a pretty strong presidential office I believe.


[13-May-19 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
American presidents just have a very powerful president in foreign relations terms. The presidency is unhinged in its ability to conduct military action.


[13-May-19 10:53 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Didn't the war powers act of the 1970s reduce the executive branch's power?


[13-May-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon If Biden did what he did in the 1960s in terms of academics now he would have gotten expelled and refused admission to any bar


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's scummy


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Sally Moon It may have, but it was re-expanded post 9-11 if I remember right.


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's always been scum


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But he has a warm smile


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as Obama


[13-May-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Charisma carries so much weight


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Biden's a bank cuck


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
And can't even be good at that.


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's bragged about not being paid all that much for sucking bank cock


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump has no charisma


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, he has charisma for a certain group of people


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump has high charisma for idiots


[13-May-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Dems should learn to swear more.


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
inb4 I run as an ultra-left Dem for absolute gun rights and I sit around and call people cunts


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly, the US is full of idiots


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Sir, what are your thoughts on Kammala Harris?"


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He talks like one of us!"


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
"She's a cop and a cunt"


[13-May-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
"What are your positions on automatic weapons?"


[13-May-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's basically like a dog owner telling their dog their going to spay them


[13-May-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Full auto kalashnikovs for all black militias"


[13-May-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they do it in that high-pitch mocking voice that dogs fucking love


[13-May-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So the only thing that comes through is the tone and not the actual intent


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh everyone at NBC, CNN, ABC, and the myriad of other US media companies should be tried for treason


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're the reason Trump is president


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Disagree


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They prioritized ratings over everything else


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Media should have no limits


[13-May-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than standard libel stuff which should be nearly impossible to prove


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump was the loudest clown in the room and they gave him overwhelming attention for media ratings


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sensationalism sucks, but at the same time, it's not illegal as long as it's not slander


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
first amendment is normally a horrible argument to use, but when the law is involved, it's much more useful


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so yeah


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I go so far as to say


[13-May-19 11:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
freedom of speech


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The government or its representatives should not be able to criticize the press


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Period


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
eh


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now they look at what they've wrought and play themselves as the victims and "resistance", for ratings


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Criticism is a two-way street


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No it is not


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can probably nail all the news companies for fucking with Trump but not for treason or anything, and still keep libel laws. It's called full socialist reforms; not just nordic shit. I'm talking breaking them all up on issue with economic consolidation and then letting all the writers and editors and company run those organizations


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the press is not free of the president, just like the president isn't free of the press


[13-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is the equivalent of a rambling nut on the street versus an armed cop


[13-May-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The former isn't gonna so anything but if the cop dislikes the nut well


[13-May-19 11:04 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
except usually the president isn't a rambling nut


[13-May-19 11:04 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(I know he is now)


[13-May-19 11:04 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but you want to bar all future criticism by presidents?


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At the least anything not focused on genuine improvement of the media


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So no "oh their ratings suck lololo" and nothing too rude


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, the president is still free to mudsling by the 1st amendment


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's not admirable


[13-May-19 11:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump knows how to rally a crowd, the other candidates don't. I still remember Hiliary:trixdisgust:  Pokemon Go to the polls comment


[13-May-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but trying to make a law barring it oversteps bounds imo


[13-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's actually kind of interesting, lawyers basically trade in their total first amendment rights for a license


[13-May-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They can't criticize things the way a normal person would


[13-May-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not do the same for a president?


[13-May-19 11:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what do you mean, "trade in rights"


[13-May-19 11:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I mean the first amendment applies to goverment not business. I can fire you for saying "Cadence is not best princess Luna is" I can fire you right there


[13-May-19 11:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
cause Caddy is best


[13-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so like


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You can fire me, yeah, but you can't try me under the law


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:caddy:


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As a citizen you can say "This judge is biased and racist and fuck him"


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not when you become a lawyer


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, is this something dictated by lawyer standards?


[13-May-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, if you say it, bye bye license?


[13-May-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't do anything that would imply that the legal system is bad that isn't aimed at "well I'm saying this because we need to improve"


[13-May-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[13-May-19 11:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hm


[13-May-19 11:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
maybe if the president is trying stuff under the court of law, he can't attack them


[13-May-19 11:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but lawyers are still free to mudsling when not directly in a trial


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
About the other guy sure


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But not too rudely


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there's obviously a limit of decency


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the president should still be free to attack the press much like how the press is free to attack the president


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Overall point is people who take up this privilege agree to have their rights limited


[13-May-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The presidency should be similar


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
UNless it's a court of law, I suppose


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the press also has standards of decency (usually) that it follows


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Press doesn't need decency


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
President does


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They should not be treated the same


[13-May-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Technically speaking, the President can attack the press however much he wants, because the first amendment says "Congress shall make no..." not "The Government shall..."


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
But he should not be allowed to attack the press


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Because it's a chilling effect


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
can't journalists lose their own license (or at least their right to journalism) if they fling shit


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like I don't know


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
>license


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so I'm asking


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I worded it poorly


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"job" would be better


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
they can be sued for libel in the worst case


[13-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
however those lawsuits almost always fail


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Unless it was really super shitty and blatant


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Torts are dying anyway


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because how dare people reclaim things when they suffer damages


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absurd


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Pruitt rolled back restrictions on asbestos


[13-May-19 11:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I agree that the president should exercise decency when criticizing the press, and while s/he *has* the power to fling shit, s/he still shouldn't


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Watch the mesothelioma torts roll in again


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but trying to create a law barring it


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that might be a little much


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah you'll get less money from those suits


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because tort reform


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
It should be in the constitution, potato


[13-May-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
The first amendment has a loophole


[13-May-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
stuff like free speech unless you're unfairly ruining someone else's life?


[13-May-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
is that the loophole


[13-May-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or something to that effect


[13-May-19 11:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't know the exact wording by memory


[13-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NYT v Sullivan


[13-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have to have malice


[13-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like that they intentionally meant to ruin you


[13-May-19 11:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hm yeah


[13-May-19 11:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and under already-existing law, what Trump is doing feels like "actual malice"


[13-May-19 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
The loophole is that the constitution does not explicitly say that the _government_ may not infringe on the free press blah blah


[13-May-19 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
It says that _Congress_ may not


[13-May-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
In practice this has been taken by SCOTUS in the past to mean the government


[13-May-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
But I would really like to see this formally codified


[13-May-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's like one of those "I'm not touching you!" loopholes


[13-May-19 11:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump is blasting these major news outlets for being "fake news", when it's rather plain as day that they're actually (usually) reporting the truth


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he is attempting to ruin them unfairly, and he knows he's doing it unfairly too


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
obviously that shit can't fly


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The founders really didn't get how powerful the executive could be


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
congress has been shunting power to it for over a century


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
all the agencies under it are a problem


[13-May-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should be ran by congress


[13-May-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
All this stuff where congress just drafts budgets and basic objectives for gov't agencies isn't okay.


[13-May-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like assembling a dictatorship one bit of authority at a time.


[13-May-19 11:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a lot of executive powers can be made a lot more reasonable by limiting their use to certain times only


[13-May-19 11:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
executive orders come to mind


[13-May-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thinkprogress.org/judiciary-chairman-lindsey-graham-urges-don-trump-jr-to-ignore-a-legal-subpoena-978515783885/

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Josh Israel
https://thinkprogress.org/judiciary-chairman-lindsey-graham-urges-don-trump-jr-to-ignore-a-legal-subpoena-978515783885/
Lindsey Graham says the rule of law need not apply to Don Jr.
The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed the president's son to provide additional testimony.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GettyImages-1140871061.jpg?w=1024&h=701&crop=1


[13-May-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
EOs are necessary, but the Executive controls too many things.


[13-May-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Lindsey Graham really enjoys licking Trump's asshole


[13-May-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Meticulously tongue bathing it and cleaning all the shit off it


[13-May-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhL0gZosUQY

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Vaush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhL0gZosUQY
Ben Shapiro is a Very Unimpressive Person (BBC Interview)
It turns out arguments with nervous college students from atop a stage with the audience on your side aren't actually a great indicator of exceptional orator...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xhL0gZosUQY/hqdefault.jpg


[13-May-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro DESTROYED by BBC


[13-May-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
t. brazzers


[13-May-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It wasn't even "BBC"


[13-May-19 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was the brit version of Alex Jones


[13-May-19 11:33 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard something about Ben, something about destroying his foes with facts and logic


[13-May-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro is another cringeworthy right wing antiintellectual


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey, y'all remember Milo?


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When yuou brag about having a high IQ and graduated from ivy league schools at the age of 19


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Oh I ran into those kind of people during the whole Vic thing


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
>When you joke about being a pedophile in the middle of a political interview


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
That's top bantz


[13-May-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Libs status: OWNED


[13-May-19 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Crumpled like onion paper once people got tired of his "muh right to be a fucktard" schtick


[13-May-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ben Shapiro felt the guy was aggressive, so called him a liberal


[13-May-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the guy was far-right


[13-May-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, anyone who strongly disagrees with me is JUST A LIBERAL GAIZ


[13-May-19 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
Daily reminder what Ben's first political writings included op-ed about how he doesn't care about (enemy) civilain casualities in wars


[13-May-19 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm still amazed by that clip of college Stephen Miller


[13-May-19 11:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That is very cold hearted to say


[13-May-19 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where he's bitching that students are expected not to litter


[13-May-19 11:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That "anger" comment at the end was gold


[13-May-19 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they shouldn't be doing the janitor's job


[13-May-19 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's some legit The Onion shit that Actually Happened


[13-May-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdmxTksbTVQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdmxTksbTVQ
Stephen Miller speech at Santa Monica High
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FdmxTksbTVQ/hqdefault.jpg


[13-May-19 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
just


[13-May-19 11:39 PM] ononim#8141
This is "Why are you cleaning after yourself/try to not be a pig and make a mess? That's waiters's job" tier take


[13-May-19 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the worst things I remember about the UK


[13-May-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was how many chavs, of all ages, would just eat fast food or vending machine shit and toss the wrappers and litter onto the sidewalk and grass around them, even while there were trash cans every 50 meters


[13-May-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was a damned constant


[13-May-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I really don't care about whatever politically incorrect use of "chav" or whatever argument


[13-May-19 11:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
UK gopniks


[13-May-19 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Until you've lived in the UK or similar societies you do not understand chavs


[13-May-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The ultimate "white trash" (though there are plenty of asian and black chavs) that just watch "Big Brother", play "FIFA", listen to rap "music", and never think about getting a real job because unemployment benefits carries them between odd jobs and family schemes


[13-May-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/zmp3ew/republicans-are-pissed-about-crackdowns-on-vaccine-exemptions

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Republicans Are Pissed About Crackdowns on Vaccine Exemptions
States are eliminating exemptions in the fight to stop the worst outbreak of measles in decades
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5cd9bc6ad6f2e90007bce87a/lede/1557773419835-AP_19130718594557.jpeg?crop=1xw:0.8426966292134831xh;center,center


[13-May-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just point out to them how they're on the same level as ultraorthodox JEWS or MUSLIMS and they'll shut up right fast


[13-May-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get an arab guy to proclaim how much he wants religious freedom to not vaccinate and to call for jihad.


[13-May-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only religious and health exemptions matter


[13-May-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck off with anything else


[13-May-19 11:50 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Why don't they get their bloody shots?


[13-May-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck religious exemptions


[13-May-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie didn't ISIS do this and say polio shots were a conspiracy to sterilize Muslims


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have to comply with religious exemptions


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just because you're an idiot doesn't mean you get to be exempt


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm a super true believer in secular culture but you have to have it


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am getting these theories once about vaccinations at school.


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well guess what


[13-May-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My religion states that murder is OK


[13-May-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do I get a religious exemption?


[13-May-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah you could make an argument similar to not allowing peyote for religious practice


[13-May-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What if my religion says I have to get HIV to be pure


[13-May-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I have to have unprotected sex with as many people as possible


[13-May-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's my religion


[13-May-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you going to OPPRESS ME?


[13-May-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, you already can't have a religion that says "I need to do otherwise illegal drugs"


[13-May-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Believe me I don't want these exemptions and want this similar logic to extend


[13-May-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But that isn't gonna happen


[13-May-19 11:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes. Because you religion beaks high level state laws.


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also that


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe DC should just get nuked


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
-Maybe


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
FBI open up


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FBI suck my nuts


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lick them and carry on to the taint


[13-May-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone at the FBI is paid to go through DB


[13-May-19 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dig deep in my anus


[13-May-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least a little bit


[13-May-19 11:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did they find anything yet?


[13-May-19 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FBI tongue fuck my ass good, I've been out of TP for days


[13-May-19 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pucker and suck and earn your ameribucks


[13-May-19 11:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Must be fun(not) job looking at lewd sites and getting paid for it.


[13-May-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And know for certain that if ever I'm within 20m of a US president or Senator I WILL go for the kill


[13-May-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So please spend however many money on extra surveilance for me


[13-May-19 11:57 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A child shouldn't have to suffer because of some parents ignorance


[13-May-19 11:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In russia there is site for machine learning training, and there are tasks similar to "select pictures with cars", but with 18+ content  and this is bleachworthy.


[13-May-19 11:59 PM] Litrojia#0612
*debates quoting that assassination bit*


[14-May-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What're they going to do, give me free housing and food?


[14-May-19 12:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes, it is called prison.)


[14-May-19 12:03 AM] ononim#8141
:upvote:


[14-May-19 12:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That is what happened to one country they went broke


[14-May-19 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
*TSP makes Unabomber look like Pacifist*


[14-May-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unabomber was a pussy


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
.q add @Teaspoon Unabomber was a pussy


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@ononim, quote added (@Teaspoon: Unabomber was a pussy)


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
TSP going to be mailing nukes.


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p oc:Posada


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[14-May-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, TSP going to be staying at home playing vidya


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
.p oc:Posada


[14-May-19 12:06 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[14-May-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But if I ever reach that WELP point of no return


[14-May-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, shit, this stuff isn't that difficult


[14-May-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14mIFbhB0b8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14mIFbhB0b8
I believe....
Long live the fourth Posadist Internationale
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[14-May-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"My bpody my choice" It isn;t your body it;s your children;s body you nutcase


[14-May-19 12:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Do you think the US should adopt a multiparty system?


[14-May-19 12:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Like elsewhere


[14-May-19 12:16 AM] Honahue#0656
it'd be an incremental improvement


[14-May-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the US should never have adopted a two party system to begin with, so yes a multi party system would be prefered


[14-May-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
IMO it wasn't an adoption of one it was just a side effect of first past the post


[14-May-19 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
the style of competition favors 2 parties


[14-May-19 12:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
There is a reason people rarely run as an interdependent, because they have to work harder against the two existing parties.


[14-May-19 12:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
to again voters


[14-May-19 12:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Republicans and Democrats own a lot of capital. To run as a third party or an independent puts someone at a disadvantage because they don't have the millions in starting capital those parties can raise at a snap of their finger.


[14-May-19 12:50 AM] Sally Moon#4922
True, its like if the Unicorn party had to run not just against the R and D parties but the Pegasus and Earth Pony party too, because there are other independences


[14-May-19 12:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
its a poltical nightmare that's why people like Bernie run on Dem and Trump on Republican, its easier than being an independent


[14-May-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
trump could do better running as third party than most other people, but he'd still ultimately be defeated


[14-May-19 12:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
true


[14-May-19 12:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The US could try the collation thing, how does that go?


[14-May-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think a much more impactful change to *specifically* presidential elections - no other changes, no new systems, no new parties, nothing - just make the VP an elected position independent of the president


[14-May-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course this is not like it'd magically cure all our ails or anything of the sort


[14-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
that was how it was supposed to be


[14-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
the runner-up would be VP


[14-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
and be the head of the senate


[14-May-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
so you'd have the "opposition" party as the head of the senate


[14-May-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the president just chooses VP and it's always the best buttlikker


[14-May-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
or someone crazy


[14-May-19 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, in this case, someone working for the president's campaign chooses


[14-May-19 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
and the VP doesn't have any of the power it was supposed to have in the senate anymore, it's all been deferred to the majority leader


[14-May-19 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It does feel a little like we're learning how to win the last war just in time for the next one with this, but *still*


[14-May-19 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
d'you think this could get passed in before the 2020 election with an elbow nudge to the GOP saying "this is how you keep control of the senate?" After all, their ability to look forward has been stunted to a month or two at max


[14-May-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1127611934134755328

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BREAKING: A source close to the Florida man who raised over $22 million on GoFundMe in the “We The People Will Build the Wall” campaign just revealed today that the money has been diverted to pay for a ‘million dollar’ yacht and high-flying lifestyle https://t.co/p...
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[14-May-19 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Didn't we already know this?


[14-May-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t know


[14-May-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ottawamatters.com/national-news/social-media-giants-ignore-law-dont-take-canada-seriously-mps-1441386?fbclid=IwAR0w-4gHWMuY-OwJ2-E3G8mxc27Oqb4t95OpP0_Rr0QiBwU8cC5CvatmgAM

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Social media giants ignore law, don't take Canada seriously: MPs
OTTAWA — Politicians are increasingly concerned that social media giants have become so big, powerful and rich that they are effectively above the law — at least in a small country like Canada.
https://vmcdn.ca/f/files/shared/feeds/cp/2019/05/cpt102547219.jpg;w=630


[14-May-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
canada is a small country?


[14-May-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They got a lot of land and a handful of people


[14-May-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aoc-scared-garbage-disposal/ this is adorable

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Was AOC 'Scared' by Her Apartment Garbage Disposal?
A New York City environmental office once estimated "less than 1 percent of households" in the city had such disposals.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/05/GettyImages-976100454.jpg?fit=1024,683


[14-May-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They were illegal in NYC for a long time and never really became a thing after the ban was lifted 😂

Other home things many NYers don’t have in their apartments: washer/dryer, dishwasher, central air.

(Saving up for a portable dishwasher was one of the best things we did) 

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) May 8, 2019


[14-May-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't understand the concept


[14-May-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
you put semi-solid food down the drain, garbage disposal liquefies it, it gets flushed to treatment with the rest of the junk


[14-May-19 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I'm too much of a lazy slob to throw my garbage into the garbage so I'll just let the slop go down the drain and then shred it"


[14-May-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot more efficient


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't do well with bones though


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is how sewage pipes get clogged with shit


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
so those get thrown out still


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WHO THE FUCK THROWS BONES DOWN THE DRAIN


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
no one?


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
I just said that lol


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Idiots


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
well, idiots I suppose will


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus christ just scrape that shit off the plate into a trashbin


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The same that put milk in mac and cheese


[14-May-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
then strain it


[14-May-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
foodstuff isn't much worse than literal shit lol


[14-May-19 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Garbage disposals are good for 80s movie deaths and making your house smell like the alley behind a KFC


[14-May-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd get it in concept as a sort of composting solution, but they arent really used for that so it doesnt make as much sense


[14-May-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2542c0091cbf422ea55a54a1029f1b97

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Enough GOP senators return to end Oregon tax bill standoff
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — The sergeant-at-arms of the Oregon Senate had a new regular duty in recent days: Searching the state Capitol for Republican senators who had been staying away and brought the...
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[14-May-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>the legislative body’s business to a halt.

The tactic by the minority Republicans is rare in Oregon, but has been used throughout history, sometimes creating comical scenes. Abraham Lincoln once leapt out of a window in an attempt to deny a quorum when he was a lawmaker in Illinois. In Washington three decades ago, U.S. Sen. Bob Packwood (R-Oregon) was carried feet first into the Senate chamber after Democrats ordered the arrest of Republican senators who were denying a quorum.

The Oregon standoff ended on its fifth day Monday. It had been caused by GOP senators’ anger at a bill that raises taxes on some businesses to fund education. After the Senate finally convened Monday afternoon, it passed the measure.


[14-May-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/577651664371187722/image0.jpg

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[14-May-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d say it;s more a testament to the fact that no one knows our numbers are arabic numerals


[14-May-19 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous, folks


[14-May-19 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
everyone who comes into contact with it dies


[14-May-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you should drink soem carbon monoxide, it'll clear that right up


[14-May-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is also a case study in misleading questionnaires


[14-May-19 02:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah stick to CDCl3 instead


[14-May-19 02:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Or perhaps Me-CO-Me


[14-May-19 02:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But yeah, that's just deliberate misinformation


[14-May-19 02:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's a joke at the expense of the US public


[14-May-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
what? it's not misleading


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
it's exactly what it says on the tin


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"ha ha our numerals are Arabic and you didn't know it"


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah most respondents don't know that :ponythinking:


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's misleading because it's vague about whether or not this is something they're currently being taught


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
those are the arabic numerals, and they are one of the most powerful innovations in the history of mathematics


[14-May-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They assumed it would be a *change*


[14-May-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
the ones I've seen mention that they're already mandatory


[14-May-19 02:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We get that you're big brain, but not everyone else is


[14-May-19 02:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Consider that the responses *would most likely* be different if the question had read, "...continue to teach Arabic Numerals as the foundation of their math curriculum"


[14-May-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
iirc I was taught they were arabic numerals in elementary school


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Who actually remembers that though


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not most Americans, mind you


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
and the elementary school I want to was considered the second worst in the district


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even amongst people who had never heard of Arabic Numerals and were also bigoted


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This is more a testament to a lack of American education than bigotry


[14-May-19 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are people in the US who do not know the pledge of allegiance, and I remember having to recite that on a daily basis


[14-May-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
circle and slash (binary) are just as powerful as a set of arabic numerals


[14-May-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
like I personally forgot that they were called arabic numerals until I saw it brought up in a study linked here last week, but as soon as I saw "arabic numerals", I remembered that was what 0-9 are called


[14-May-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
they just require more work


[14-May-19 02:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A *lot* more work


[14-May-19 02:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Impractical for everyday use tbh


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Prices are not gonna be listed in binary, I mean


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get that they see use in computers


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
we could have probably done better with a hexadecimal number base


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like excluding me just because I have a better memory than average is pretty shitty tbh


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had near 2 decades with the pledge of alleigance and i dont entirely remember it because i;ve tried purging it form my brain


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
I remember it perfectly


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
never cared about it, it's just words


[14-May-19 02:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, if we're thinking about the majority of people here, you are not really close to the average of that majority


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly just cause it got stuck in my head on loop for awhile


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's pretty easy to prove that words mean nothing in the US, only money


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
my high school tried to force me to recite the pledge


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Money is power


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I got the FFRF involved


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
the school lost


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i refused to stand for it in high school cause i was just tired of doing so


[14-May-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
would you have said it if it didn't include "under god"?


[14-May-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was there to learn and it just cut into class time


[14-May-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I did for a while and then stopped saying it at all because I realized it was a sick attempt to foster authoritarianism


[14-May-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
I never had to do the pledge of allegiance in middle/high school, just at the beginning of the day in elementary school (we lined up out in the playground, said it, then walked to class in single file lines, in order from oldest class to youngest class)


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
basically, I was too young to form an opinion on the matter


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
I did it because I was indifferent and didn't want to stick out like a sore thumb


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
see that's the problem though


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
when you're too young to form an opinion on the matter that's peak brainwashing time


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had to wake up super early every mornign and thne i gotta preform the chant of america each morning? fuck that noise


[14-May-19 02:44 AM] Litrojia#0612
but the thing that absolutely fucking pissed me off is school administration making me stop in the hall when they were doing national anthem/pledge of allegiance


[14-May-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
gotta raise good little authoritarians


[14-May-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
for the politicians to laugh at


[14-May-19 02:45 AM] Litrojia#0612
like I have places to be, and your silly little ceremony shouldn't be stopping me


[14-May-19 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Funny thing about the plege of allegiance is that I'd rather pledge allegiance to the things that recitation pointed out, and *not* where the current administration would like me to put my faith


[14-May-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
did you ever try doing it while walking


[14-May-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Take a minute and think critically about the wording. It's pledging allegiance to a symbol, *and* to the republic it's representative of - and then defines what that republic stands for


[14-May-19 02:47 AM] Litrojia#0612
this isn't necessarily about the pledge, for me they'd play the national anthem over the speakers and I'd need to stop for that for some reason


[14-May-19 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not a pledge of allegiance to the dear leader, and I think the use of the term "republic" before the word "nation" was carefully chosen


[14-May-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the bit with "under god" really doesnt fit the rest of it


[14-May-19 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and you can more or less ignore the "under god" bit, that was added in **19**54 and a lot of places aren't even saying it anymore


[14-May-19 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, 'cause red scare


[14-May-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the red scare inspired a lot of cult liek habits in parts of american society


[14-May-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the hilarious thing is the guy who wrote it was...get ready for it...*socialist oooh scary~*


[14-May-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The previous version before that went like: "We give our heads and hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one flag!"


[14-May-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
imagine how much the GOP would *love* to go back to that version


[14-May-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[14-May-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the scarier part is the pledge doesnt just end when you get out of school, corporatiosn started instilling their own versions as a prework chant in their employee;s everyday job. such as walmart...


[14-May-19 02:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If you think the US is authoritarian you don't know what authoritarian is


[14-May-19 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
supposedly Congress recites it before every session which makes me wonder how much they've payed attention to the words, either


[14-May-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we arent entirely authoritarian yet. the GOP is trying it;s best though


[14-May-19 02:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I think you are overracting


[14-May-19 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not this time


[14-May-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now our president is tyring to remove power formt he lower courts so they can;lt challennge his authority


[14-May-19 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the GOP has figured out that by working together and making sure everyone sticks to the party line, they can bypass the entire system of checks and balances


[14-May-19 02:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This isn't the red scare where the government can just arrest you on trumped up charges


[14-May-19 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What's ICE then


[14-May-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you under estimate the gop's party line mindset


[14-May-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or any number of other parts of the criminal justice system that have been supported by GOP-led lobbying


[14-May-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
entire cities are being run by a mafia police force who kill as they please and arrest anyone who gets int heir way


[14-May-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the government can certainly arrest you on trumped up charges


[14-May-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
all the cops gotta do is sprinkle a little crack on you


[14-May-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
bam, instant mandatory minimum


[14-May-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And you effectively don't even need to be convicted of something for the system to ruin your life


[14-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[14-May-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or if they shoot you thye jsut have to plant a gun andclaim self defense


[14-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
civil asset forfeiture


[14-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
aka legal theft


[14-May-19 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or just being charged with something and then having to wait years for your trial


[14-May-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
did you know that if you don't specifically request a "speedy trial" you are considered to have waived that right?


[14-May-19 03:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
byte that is called entrapment and the officer would lose their job if they did that


[14-May-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you;d think so but they dont


[14-May-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this happens on a nearly daily basis


[14-May-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police forces now have cover up brigades and plants in internal affairs


[14-May-19 03:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and should any of this come to light, there's a good chance the officer involved will simply be transferred (or fired and then re-hired at another police department somewhere else), multiple times - not banned from working as a police officer


[14-May-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and god help you if an officer has a political or religious motive to their actions


[14-May-19 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And this is just regular police dealing with American citizens. We haven't even gotten started on ICE


[14-May-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the CIA for that matter


[14-May-19 03:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or police when acting in a SWAT or riot control engagement


[14-May-19 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the minute riot police show up, your protest is simply no longer considered a peaceful protest as protected by the bill of rights


[14-May-19 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's not up to you to decide that


[14-May-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and swat doesn;t handle things peacefully, they storm in guns blazing


[14-May-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this has gotten people killed by idiots using thme as a mobile hit squad


[14-May-19 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That video of the guy in China having a police officer in a blue shirt walk in his room and arrest him for saying politically charged things on the Internet? In the US, your door gets KICKED OFF ITS HINGES by a guy dressed in black military gear with a gun already in your face


[14-May-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he;s hostily screaming the entire time


[14-May-19 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because some rando on the internet on the other side of the country called the cops and said you were holding people hostage or whatever other thing gets SWAT involved


[14-May-19 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so yeah how's that for trumped up charges


[14-May-19 03:10 AM] Sally Moon#4922
One guy who did call the swat on someone is facing jail time


[14-May-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah after their victim already got killed by the SWAT


[14-May-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Things don't tend to resolve until after the swattign victim is dead by trigger happy SWAT forces who misread a situation


[14-May-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/11/calif-man-pleads-guilty-in-fatal-swatting-case-faces-20-years-in-prison/
http://www.kake.com/story/39364523/wichita-swatting-suspect-to-plead-guilty-to-46-new-federal-charges
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/01/three-charged-for-working-with-serial-swatter/

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[14-May-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who commit swattign also don't tend to be caught untilt hey swat multiple people and families


[14-May-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and arresting one doesn't stop more from cropping up


[14-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't get arrested because he did it, he got arrested because someone died


[14-May-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
nothing would've come from it if nobody had died


[14-May-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
`byte that is called entrapment and the officer would lose their job if they did that`


[14-May-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
except it literally happens all the time?


[14-May-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
planting evidence is an incredibly common thing


[14-May-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
leads to easy arrests


[14-May-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
= recognition for the department


[14-May-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
and police perjury is so common that it has its own name - testilying


[14-May-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
all the cops have to do to land you in jail for a long time is to sprinkle some crack on you, think of  a moronic probable cause reason to have invaded your personal space, then play dumb until the prosecutor sends you a plea agreement


[14-May-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
most people plea out


[14-May-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
the ones that do go to trial usually go in favor of the cops


[14-May-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
police do not have the limitation of hearsay in the US, everything a police officer hears someone else say can be used as evidence against that person, even if what they "heard" is completely made up


[14-May-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
there's been some hilarious theoretical scenarios of using a police officer to testify about something they heard trump say in order to nail him on a charge


[14-May-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav the reverse hearsay limitation, actually


[14-May-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
what the policy heard you say can be used against you


[14-May-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it **cannot** be used to exhonorate you


[14-May-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SWATting exists because of an enormous anger over people who dare to play a video game online.


[14-May-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly, it's also the only reason ProJared is being universally denounced.


[14-May-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people don't care about women or even pedophilia, they just don't like a guy who was famous playing a video game.


[14-May-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a video game fandom thing uniquely, see even that recent beauty blogger that got called out


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, both of them did incredbly trashy shit


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
only projared did something that's illegal though


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
(sending dick pics to minors and grooming minors)


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I honestly knew he would get into shit when he crossdressed in his video and was way too into it


[14-May-19 04:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What was he *thinking*


[14-May-19 04:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It doesn't take much of a brain to realize dick pics to minors is a shitty idea


[14-May-19 04:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not to mention the cheating


[14-May-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People cheat


[14-May-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The pedo stuff is the bad part


[14-May-19 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe cheating is a part of human nature but it's still seen as scummy in today's society


[14-May-19 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And leads to ostracization


[14-May-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PBG is pure and was misled


[14-May-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He made up with JonTron years ago


[14-May-19 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah the consensus is that PBG is cool


[14-May-19 04:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No one blames him too hard for jumping the gun and defending his best friend


[14-May-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if your friend lied to you that he was being abused when he was in fact the abuser


[14-May-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot did


[14-May-19 04:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They cooled off after PBG realized Jared was scummy


[14-May-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hypocritical thing with JT isn't relevant either, he apologized


[14-May-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That I don't know about


[14-May-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Jontron made some ignorantly racist comments, and then got schooled and apologized.


[14-May-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JT said dumb shit, PBG disagreed


[14-May-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They made up


[14-May-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Edgelords who only like JT for his racism still hold it against people


[14-May-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[14-May-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he still is racist, he just apologized for bringing shit up and keeps quiet now


[14-May-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're on good terms rn, right


[14-May-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yea


[14-May-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JT is the kind of racist who learned his racism from memes too


[14-May-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't know anything about the world really


[14-May-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But hey, Flextape reactions are funny.


[14-May-19 04:19 AM] Honahue#0656
JonTron has good comedic timing too he's actually talented instead of running on shock or novelty


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said something like "It's great my parents fled from communism and extremist Islam" but like


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
JonTron is a funny guy, at least


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Even if somewhat racist


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i enjoy his videos


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And he does usually try to keep that under control


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He's cool


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[14-May-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He knows it isn't his thing


[14-May-19 04:54 AM] Mikey#7286
JonTron isn't racist


[14-May-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
he's said some pretty fuckin racist things to not be a racist lol


[14-May-19 04:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Sargon of soyboy baited him into saying shit he had no idea what he was talking about


[14-May-19 04:57 AM] Mikey#7286
If JT is racist for being ignorant Mike's Matei is racist for making a dumb Mexican stereotyped comic strip ages ago


[14-May-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841051513212547072

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JonTron (@JonTronShow)
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841051513212547072
Wow, how scandalous, Steve King doesn't want his country invaded by people who have contempt for his culture and people! NAZI!!!
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[14-May-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
This happened after Sargon did that podcast with him


[14-May-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
>JonTron makes a couple other noteworthy points, like saying, "If there is one American in America who doesn't see themselves as strictly American, we have ourselves a problem." In regards to black people coming out of low-income environments, he said, "I don't understand why it is anyone else's responsibility but their own."


[14-May-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
typical neoliberal "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" bullshit


[14-May-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny how it's only people making >$100k a year saying that


[14-May-19 05:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[14-May-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM

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Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM
Debating JonTron
Primarily discussing immigration and assimilation. Outro music: https://soundcloud.com/osvelit/destiny-comp-challenge-4-osvelit-ricercar-v2 _________________...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6RQA9GZprqM/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-May-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
he's also half-iranian apparently


[14-May-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
and arguing in favor of white supremacy


[14-May-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
maybe there is some truth to the iran = aryan thing after all


[14-May-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This all happened because people shat on him during Gamergate


[14-May-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So he became a meme Republican basically


[14-May-19 05:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol, speaking of Mike Matei, someone said they refuse to watch Avgn anymore because James still associates with him because I guess Mike is racist and that make James racist too even though making a dumb comic doesn't make him racist


[14-May-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brown bricks


[14-May-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Pepsiman episode of AVGN is amazing


[14-May-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He got the actor from the game


[14-May-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not hard to find but still


[14-May-19 05:08 AM] Mikey#7286
Pepsi for TV game!


[14-May-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird when Japanese ads make native English speakers speak awkward English


[14-May-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because English is cool even if it doesn't make sense


[14-May-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how people get tattoos off of a Chinese takeout menu


[14-May-19 05:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Famous people in Japanese commercials is a thing


[14-May-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Used to be more common when they could promise "oh only Japanese people will see it it won't affect your career"


[14-May-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda moot now


[14-May-19 05:10 AM] Mikey#7286
I like his new avgn episodes but it's clear he doesn't care to do it as much these days


[14-May-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/nYkw-5htPw0

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Nick Cage Complete Pachinko Commercial Collection
These are the 5 japanese commercials nick cage did for Sankyo. Sankyo is a maker of Pachinko a japanese pin ball/ slot machine game. Players get silver balls...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nYkw-5htPw0/hqdefault.jpg


[14-May-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I disagree, I think he puts more effort in recently


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Honahue#0656
He made a whole episode about still doing avgn just not the same output


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Late Game trailers era he was giving up


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
His main thing is Rental Reviews now


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now he does what he wants artistically


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Well yeah


[14-May-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
The production quality is higher


[14-May-19 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
But what I meant was


[14-May-19 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
The infrequency sounds like he wants to focus on other things


[14-May-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[14-May-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can like only doing something once in a while to make it special


[14-May-19 05:12 AM] Mikey#7286
True


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like you Weird Al will probably never have another album again


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mandatory Fun was his last contractual obligation


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Mikey#7286
Probably


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He likes singles more now


[14-May-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw him live once


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's what, almost 60 and did like 15 costume changes


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Mikey#7286
Neat


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it isn't Bob Dylan tier who I also saw but


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man that concert


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I hope he comes back after intermission, sometimes he gets too high and says he's sick"


[14-May-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From another audience member


[14-May-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wanted to see him before I was sure he was going to die


[14-May-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was three years ago


[14-May-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
Hm


[14-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't get why people are trying to defend jontron like it matters to someone that rich whether they're racist or not


[14-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
also, ignorant racism is even worse imo, at least you know what you're getting with someone who's outspokenly racist


[14-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
people who argue for racism from ignorance are so much more dangerous


[14-May-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Idc tbh


[14-May-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
I still find JonTron's vids hilarious


[14-May-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JonTron voted for Obama twice and likes Sanders


[14-May-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's malleable, it's all memes


[14-May-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If suddenly the pendulum swings and people like Buttigieg a lot he'll go for that.


[14-May-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it's memes and business.


[14-May-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Vote for Johnathan Pie


[14-May-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang Gang


[14-May-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Be depressed as you are now but get paid $12000 for it


[14-May-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Personally as it stands I think only Buttigieg has what it takes.


[14-May-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wanted Joe Kennedy III early on but lol


[14-May-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only for the marketing it would have been good


[14-May-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
Also the only thing I don't like about JonTron is he said Metroid is overrated


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Mikey#7286
Metroid isn't popular enough to be overrated


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Smash is overrated


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sakurai doesn't want to make it anymore clearly


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's just that he's malleable, and it's not all memes


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
all of what he said is a relatively consistent conservative viewpoint on race and culture


[14-May-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick a combination of Buttigieg and Sanders for the love of God DNC


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol I'm pretty sure Samus Returns sold far less than Other M


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consisting of, essentially, "Oh no minorities will replace us, nobody deserves to liv in a good country, fukk these other races trying to get in, they just bring crime, like blakks do, even when they get wealthy"


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbh


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iranian diaspora can be very conservative


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that was one half of his parents


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't give a rats ass about JonTron's views


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
JonTron was both ill-informed and clearly not smart


[14-May-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
okay, so why did you defend him lol


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
Just don't try to get into political debates again


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
React to Phil Swift and shut up tbh


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy apparently had watched some videos by a guy who denies mental illnesses exist


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
this is the politics channel, that's kind of the point lol


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And became a bit of a parrot


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
I was talking about JonTron


[14-May-19 05:34 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
@Crow


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/577690199937777675


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
ok


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
that was 34 minutes after everyone stopped talking lol


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
JonTron is racist


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
No he's not


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
He's dumb


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said wealthy blakks commit more crimes than poor whites


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is literally untrue


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's both dumb and racist


[14-May-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
dumb people don't just accept any shit you lay before them


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
they accept shit that agrees with their existing views


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He learned sociopolitical issues from memes


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
which in this case clearly were racist ones.


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Mate


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically has the incredibly selfish viewpoint that other races don't deserve what he was born into.


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
He did a podcast with Sargon of all people


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the wealth etc. belongs to whites


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sargon is racist, yes


[14-May-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and not dumb)


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't JT half Iranian and half Ukrainian or something


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
half-iranian, yes


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In a white nationalist state he would not be considered white


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Mikey#7286
He's popular with woke conservatives tho :^]


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hungarian and Persian


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Mikey#7286
(Sargon)


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's technically Aryan


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
his middle name is literally "Aryan"


[14-May-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, he's half iranian and half hungarian


[14-May-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's one of those "we were technically the OG white people" ethnicities.


[14-May-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
(iran means aryan, though I kinda said this earlier)


[14-May-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also whether this counts as white came before the Supreme Court once


[14-May-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
bakk when only caucasians were allowed in the military


[14-May-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
they decided that no, that doesn't include everyone who's caucasian


[14-May-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, JonTron *is* racist


[14-May-19 05:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol random but bj blazkowicz is aryane


[14-May-19 05:40 AM] Mikey#7286
I think


[14-May-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He used easily-falsifiable facts to support a narrative that other races are inherently inferior


[14-May-19 05:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[14-May-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
while talking a bunch of shit about how non-whites don't deserve a place to liv


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still lol in meta that _Germany_ was where Nazism came up


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
Does making a comic with Mexican stereotypes make you racist?


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic "think of the LAW" argument, where you say that human rights don't include US citizenship therefore we should refuse asylum to people.


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stereotypes aren't necessarily racist.


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism requires some form of prejudice based on race.


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice is fairly common with stereotyping, but stereotyping need not lead to prejudice.


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Mikey#7286
That's what I thought


[14-May-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a stereotype to say blakks like fried chikken and watermelon


[14-May-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's prejudiced to say this makes them bad people who shouldn't be trusted.


[14-May-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
JonTron wanted Le Pen to win in France btw.


[14-May-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And wanted Germany "uncucked"


[14-May-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He really got mad of this idea of Syrians being given jobs after their homes are burned down etc.


[14-May-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also went on some tirade about SJUWs driving the left to evil and destroying white culture etc.


[14-May-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he's your average "I'm white, this is my identity, it should matter and get me privileges, how dare other races ask for the same, these asshats are gonna destroy the country, who cares about all these people dying in the middle east?"


[14-May-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a sprinkle of racism towards blakks to round it out.


[14-May-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related, do people everywhere dip pizza in ranch or is that a white Midwestern thing


[14-May-19 05:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never done or seen anyone else do it in my life


[14-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't dip everything in ranch?


[14-May-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i;m on the east coast


[14-May-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not into ranch dressing


[14-May-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ranch is the one condiment every place has.


[14-May-19 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
From Midwest, lived in California for 4 years it's a Midwest thing


[14-May-19 06:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I live in California and I've seen plenty of people use ranch on pizza


[14-May-19 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
Probably transplants, I saw plenty of UofM and MSU sweaters too


[14-May-19 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
But maybe it is becoming a national thing


[14-May-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I used to use ranch with pretty much any meat


[14-May-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now I just use hot sauce


[14-May-19 06:33 AM] Mikey#7286
i only put meat on my pizza


[14-May-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
pepperoni pizza with jalapeños is great


[14-May-19 06:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Pineapple on pizza is gud, fite me


[14-May-19 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
:realgun: @Honahue


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
It's post leg day do your worst


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
leg day?


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
wot


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
At the gym


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
Legs


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[14-May-19 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
It's a rough day


[14-May-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
I drive a clutch


[14-May-19 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Shaking the whole way home


[14-May-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/05/oregon-democrats-could-kill-gun-vaccine-bills-to-get-republicans-back-to-the-capitol.html

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Oregon Democrats could kill gun, vaccine bills to get Republicans ...
The proposed deal does not appear to entail any changes to the multibillion dollar business tax to fund education, which Republicans had cited as the top reason for their walkout last week.
https://www.oregonlive.com/resizer/Z0QQw_9VELEr6TQfocMuSrmdKOU=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/UT5XQYHQPJCY3E3C3EVRNAUJFE.jpg


[14-May-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
republicans would rather allow pestilence to spread than fund education by taxing big businesses


[14-May-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakkmail by refusing to be part of the process unless efforts to prevent disease deaths be ceased.


[14-May-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
they literally have to go and arrest senators and drag them back to capitol hill to vote


[14-May-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
oregon should just change their procedure so that they don't require all senators to be present in order to vote


[14-May-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
if the senators are unwilling to do their jobs, then that should be considered voluntary dereliction of duty


[14-May-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[14-May-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/laughingindisbelief/2019/01/president-trump-urges-americans-to-boycott-chinese-restaurants/

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President Trump Urges Americans To Boycott Chinese Restaurants
President Trump says we need a border wall with Mexico and a boycott of Chinese restaurants.
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[14-May-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-May-19 12:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Man, now I want Chinese now


[14-May-19 12:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you lean left, then you need to stop your day for trains now. https://youtu.be/gifz9IcwrPs

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https://youtu.be/gifz9IcwrPs
H8 Allegheny Demo Video and some history and and mechanics and pol...
So Wings and Strings (@tomcoletti) and I sat down to talk about my new H8 Allegheny asset for Transport Fever. And also some history and politics. And I did ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gifz9IcwrPs/maxresdefault.jpg


[14-May-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/443509-top-connecticut-federal-prosecutor-assigned-to-investigate-russia

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Barr names Connecticut prosecutor to investigate Russia probe's or...
Attorney General William Barr has reportedly assigned a federal prosecutor in Connecticut to examine the origins of the investigation into Russia's election interference and alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_051319upi_lead.jpg


[14-May-19 12:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If I go to a Chinese restaurant and don't pay will the president pardon me if I get arrested?


[14-May-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[14-May-19 01:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...Does the President know Chinese restaurants are owned and operated by Americans, whose supply chains for the most part are also American companies?


[14-May-19 01:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, *Kikkoman soy sauce* has production facilities in the US


[14-May-19 01:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we ain't importing crab rangoon


[14-May-19 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probabl not, though i looked into it mroe and the article and tweet are fake


[14-May-19 01:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well that's good to know, but also POE'S LAW WHEE


[14-May-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i could honestly see him beleiving this exact thing


[14-May-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm gonna tariff chinese restaurants! it;s the perfect blow!"


[14-May-19 01:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's that extraneous space before the period that got me, ngl


[14-May-19 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/47537353131545e18b2dbcc802291eae MOAR TARIFFS!

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US targets $300B of Chinese goods for new tariff hikes
BEIJING (AP) — U.S. officials listed $300 billion more of Chinese goods for possible tariff hikes while Beijing vowed Tuesday to "fight to the finish" in an escalating trade battle that is fueling...
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[14-May-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's going to suicide our economy trying to fight china...


[14-May-19 01:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The goal isn't to fight china


[14-May-19 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's to look, on paper, like his tax breaks didn't hemmorhage money like crazy and leave his presidency as broke as everything else he's ever touched


[14-May-19 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
guess what it won't work


[14-May-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are entering sheer what the fuckery territory here


[14-May-19 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
China also only has 10b worth of US imports to tariff now, so they are runnign out quickly of retaliation material


[14-May-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Why do they need to retaliate?


[14-May-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
They can just sit back and laugh


[14-May-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
We'll come back crying in a few years time


[14-May-19 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
that tweet about trump saying to boycott chinese restaurants is fake btw


[14-May-19 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1128277703570984960

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1128277703570984960
China will be pumping money into their system and probably reducing interest rates, as always, in order to make up for the business they are, and will be, losing. If the Federal Reserve ever did a “match,” it would be game over, we win! In any event, China wants a deal!
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[14-May-19 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
he really doesn't understand who pays the costs of tariffs though


[14-May-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[14-May-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our economy is fucked


[14-May-19 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/shanedkavanaugh/status/1128018317552209920?s=20

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Shane D. Kavanaugh (@shanedkavanaugh)
https://twitter.com/shanedkavanaugh/status/1128018317552209920?s=20
Senate Republicans in Oregon effectively took the state legislature hostage last week by refusing to show up, denying the upper chamber a quorum. The maneuver has paid off: Dems have agreed to kill gun control & vaccination bills if GOP returns to work.  
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[14-May-19 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf


[14-May-19 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They can just do that now?


[14-May-19 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The dems should have ordered them arrested


[14-May-19 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Force them to vote


[14-May-19 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ugh


[14-May-19 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, the dems could have changed the quorum rules through a simple majority, but the state senate president is a spineless whimp


[14-May-19 06:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🤷


[14-May-19 07:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/10/722059301/chelsea-manning-is-freed-from-jail-faces-new-subpoena-in-wikileaks-case

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Chelsea Manning Is Freed From Jail, Faces New Subpoena In WikiLeak...
Manning is due to return to federal court on May 16. Despite an offer of immunity, she has refused to answer questions about WikiLeaks, saying she already has shared everything she knows.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/10/rtx6v453_wide-43013dde1c81f8b40fc86656f38e6b5821f86d9a.jpg?s=1400


[14-May-19 07:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/10/721763041/exclusive-documents-detail-meetings-of-russians-with-treasury-federal-reserve

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Exclusive: Documents Detail Meetings Of Russians With Treasury, Fe...
Alexander Torshin and Maria Butina met in 2015 with top leaders in the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve, according to materials obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
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[14-May-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic, as soon as they're freed you just insist they know something they likely don't.


[14-May-19 07:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our national news channel is filled with the news about the China-America trade war...


[14-May-19 07:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm not good at economy, but seems like most Chinese believe that both China and America economy will be damaged a lot.


[14-May-19 07:58 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While a few people think China is going to lose the war competely and become as poor as North Korea in years... Idk why they think so but seems like they have confidence that America will win.


[14-May-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Americans will suffer much more than China ever will


[14-May-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
the US relies heavily on cheap products from china


[14-May-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
there's no regulations preventing importers from increasing the prices on their US customers


[14-May-19 08:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Don't say this to those who's extremely confident that America will win... You'll see tons of Chinese bad words.


[14-May-19 08:03 PM] Honahue#0656
China's booming middle class will take a hit too


[14-May-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
so companies in the US who import their products from china have to pay more for stuff from china, so they'll charge their buyers more to maintain profit margins


[14-May-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, china's going to be hurt too, but at the cost of the last legs of the US working and middle class


[14-May-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
The most China stands to lose is a percentage on US goods which were probably partially made in China anyway


[14-May-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
But the US stands to lose a massive amount of economic standing because our economy depends on Chinese products


[14-May-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Fully and completely


[14-May-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
it's like if the US was a person shooting themselves through the leg in order to hit china's foot


[14-May-19 08:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our cpc's offical news says that China will be hurt as much as America.


[14-May-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
China's news is certainly known for being accurate and unbiased...


[14-May-19 08:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So...


[14-May-19 08:06 PM] Honahue#0656
What's cpc?


[14-May-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Communist Party


[14-May-19 08:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yeah


[14-May-19 08:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our only governing party.


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are you in Mainland China


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Crow might know me?


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How do you not get kicked offline


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised you got past all the memes determined to be "subversive"


[14-May-19 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
VPN presumably


[14-May-19 08:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[14-May-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So do people really not know about that stuff or do they just pretend not to


[14-May-19 08:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Crow What meme?


[14-May-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
the bear one and the tank one


[14-May-19 08:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[14-May-19 08:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Political jokes are getting popular we here...


[14-May-19 08:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And... You can see hundreds everyday


[14-May-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
I know for a fact that you can hit off currency farming bots from china in video games by whispering those memes to them


[14-May-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Do people know about T. Square


[14-May-19 08:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some of them will get censored, but the speed of creating is much higher than the speed of censoring.


[14-May-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just remember Xinhua coming to the US to cover protests to retaliate against US networks covering Tibet


[14-May-19 08:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Xinhua?


[14-May-19 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The CPC mouthpiece


[14-May-19 08:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[14-May-19 08:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought you mean the dictionary republish


[14-May-19 08:16 PM] Honahue#0656
Grass mud horse


[14-May-19 08:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[14-May-19 08:17 PM] Honahue#0656
Something I remember about Chinese censorship


[14-May-19 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938

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[14-May-19 08:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What did Chinese teach foreigners these years?


[14-May-19 08:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well... "grass mud horse" is a Chinese bad word.


[14-May-19 08:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It means "fxxk your mom". But I don't think this can be censored anyway. It's a dialog, almost everywhere.


[14-May-19 08:20 PM] Honahue#0656
As I learned it it's pronounced the same but with different tones


[14-May-19 08:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[14-May-19 08:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese use it as "fuck" or "goddamn it".


[14-May-19 08:22 PM] Honahue#0656
Maybe it's not true then, cause as I was taught it was that because it used different characters too people used grass mud horse to get around censorship


[14-May-19 08:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No... Normally we don't censore bad words, except in some offical stages.


[14-May-19 08:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's just a kind of politeness that not to type bad words derectly, since it's really offensive.


[14-May-19 08:27 PM] Honahue#0656
Weird, dunno why I was taught that then


[14-May-19 08:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-May-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e76fa77a5c734f7cb189aa7738df8878

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[14-May-19 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-stan-lee-idUSKCN1SK04W

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Stan Lee's ex-manager charged with elder abuse against comic book...
The former manager of Stan Lee has been charged with elder abuse against the lat...
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[14-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
the stock markets make no fucking sense right now


[14-May-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
they're going back up because the white house "says" they're still in trade talks with china, even though all the evidence points towards talks being ended


[14-May-19 09:10 PM] Honahue#0656
because stock is 100% speculation


[14-May-19 09:10 PM] Honahue#0656
it's been decoupled from production


[14-May-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, but that doesn't mean it has to be based off of hearsay instead of actual proof


[14-May-19 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah it does, it's a bunch of rich people betting on getting richer


[14-May-19 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
unfortunately it's working peoples money that gets destroyed


[14-May-19 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
it's like the lyric from Nightmare before Christmas


[14-May-19 09:14 PM] Honahue#0656
"it's much more fun when lives are on the line not mine of course but yours dear boy not that'll be just fine"


[14-May-19 09:20 PM] Litrojia#0612
Doesn't the stock market usually rebound a little after it dips like that though?


[14-May-19 09:21 PM] Litrojia#0612
But yeah, goes to show that stock markets aren't a very reliable measure of anything


[14-May-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
it's "rebounding" because white house officials said "oh hey we're totally in talks with china to come to a permanent solution!"


[14-May-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
even though they've announced they are no longer in talks


[14-May-19 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
The stock market is fueled by emotion and not reality. It's why we're probably better off without it.


[14-May-19 09:42 PM] Honahue#0656
Remember there was a time, probably still works, when just throwing the word "block chain" into your company name got you investors no matter what your business actually did


[14-May-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Block Chain Shitposting .LTD


[14-May-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/14/18622956/trump-trade-war-china-bailout-farmers-socialism

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Trump pushes for new bailouts for farmers hurt by his trade war
Trump seeks government help for "great Patriot farmers" who are being hit by China’s retaliatory tariffs.
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[14-May-19 10:06 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah, just make a product that's an Internet of Things with blockchain security


[14-May-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
>President Donald Trump is opposed to the government interfering in the market to pick winners and losers — at least when doing so doesn’t directly benefit voters crucial to his reelection prospects.


[14-May-19 10:06 PM] Honahue#0656
fucking blockchain coffee maker


[14-May-19 10:07 PM] Honahue#0656
bam give me a few million I'll get a prototype


[14-May-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-fox-news.html

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Elizabeth Warren Calls Fox News a ‘Hate-for-Profit Racket’
Ms. Warren said she would not participate in a Fox News town hall-style event, but some of her 2020 Democratic rivals have taken up the network’s offer.
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[14-May-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
her loss, they're the fairest town hall right now


[14-May-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
which is mind-boggling


[14-May-19 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
she obviously didn't watch sanders' fox news town hall


[14-May-19 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
then CNN had a billion obviously planted smear questions


[14-May-19 10:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sanders if he won, the US will finally be like Europe


[14-May-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
no


[14-May-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
the president doesn't have nearly that much power


[14-May-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, his presidency would outline how easy it is for congress to shut down any meaningful change in favor of half-measures so porous as to be useless


[14-May-19 10:23 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I know he doesn't have much real power. Trump issued as many as a hundred excutive orders and all but 12 were struck down


[14-May-19 10:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Bernbot needs a cooperative Congress to do anything, probably a SCOTUS too so things don't get overturned but that's been packed


[14-May-19 10:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Even if Brtnie had the majority democratic congress, the democrats are really divided on his ideas, I mean how are you going to sell higher taxes?


[14-May-19 10:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard even Europeans thought Bernie's ideas were a little extreme


[14-May-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
No. We must go further.


[14-May-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-May-19 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let Europe no longer be the model. America shall reclaim radical freedom!


[14-May-19 10:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Didn't Demerk's former PM call out Bernie on his radical ideas?


[14-May-19 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Who cares. He's a right-winger


[14-May-19 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait which one is a right-winger


[14-May-19 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause my assumption would be the PM but in this political climate I wouldn't be surprised if a far-left politician got called right-wing because of the horseshoe effect


[14-May-19 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, Shapiro called the bbc version of alex jones a "liberal" because he couldn't whine his way out of the questions


[14-May-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Denmark's PM is a party of their country's center-right party. So technically somewhere around the area of Hillary Clinton ins US terms. But the idea people like him are spooked is good.


[14-May-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
We need to spook them more.


[14-May-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
When we have billions of lives on the line, what's three Greyhound Buses worth of rich fucks?


[14-May-19 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In a weird twist, I (a progressive) am contemplating the consequences of a regressive policy - that is, restoring the power the vice president has delegated to the majority speaker and making them more involved in the senate. This begs the following questions: 1. How would anyone convince the current senate to pass this, 2. What effect would it have on the government if Trump is re-elected, and 3. What effect would it have on the government if a democrat were elected pres/VP in 2020


[14-May-19 10:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This also goes in combination with considering whether or not the method of selecting a VP as a running mate (and practically guaranteed to be from the same party) should be altered


[14-May-19 10:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause if lightning strikes and the monkey's paw wish of "VP is back in charge of daily affairs in the senate, *and* is elected by being the opposition candidate with the most votes" comes true, it creates the potential for a Vice President Trump... or, for that matter, any incumbent president who loses a second term will have a lame-duck period where he could potentially propose a whole ton of things right at the end of being in the executive, only to pick them up again on the legislative side once ushered in as VP


[14-May-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-May-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
gen Z are going to be the anarchists shooting up all the CEOs


[14-May-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I hope so


[14-May-19 11:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So I shouldn't strive to make money because people will hate me for it?


[14-May-19 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Profit motive a shit. Find a new motive.


[14-May-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
profit shouldn't be your primary motive to begin with


[14-May-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
it should be the indirect consequence of fulfilling a societal need


[14-May-19 11:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think profit is a fine motive you have to be profitable a profitable brand gets more investors and capital to spend


[14-May-19 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-May-19 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When everything is run by the workers so they all consolidate into the better and safer factories and production booms because you gotta bash the fash


[14-May-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
profit as the primary motive is why the US is sinking underneath absurd amounts of healthcare, credit, and education debt


[14-May-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Same bois seize the trans and after a week get them rolling again after the bougies left, cut the profit motive, served more people, and still managed to get the underserved services in the network up to par with the central tram network's quality all the while supplying free healthcare to all workers on the network, and free education.


[14-May-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr people love to work but hate being told how to do it when they can do it themselves so much better


[14-May-19 11:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The business owner use to be the worker at one point


[14-May-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
I could be a memer and suggest that the reason Revolutionary Catalonia boomed in comparison to its liberal Spanish neighbors is they wanted to be lazy


[14-May-19 11:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
they took the risk to start the business


[14-May-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
O boo hoo. Cry me a river


[14-May-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
uh, that's not what we were originally talking about to begin with anyway


[14-May-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
CEOs of huge corporations are often not the people who started the business


[14-May-19 11:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
They step down the founder can't run the business forever


[14-May-19 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
so what's your point? you literally haven't said anything other than "money good" then because you just invalidated your last point


[14-May-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
profit as the primary motive has been why all of the regulations put in place to prevent excessive social harm have been eroded in the past 30-40 years


[14-May-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
things are seriously fucked whe a third of citizens are a single missed paycheck away from homelessness and 46% of homeless people have jobs


[14-May-19 11:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You can't give everyone a job


[14-May-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
that's not what trump said lmao


[14-May-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
also, that has nothing to do with what I said either


[14-May-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can't give everyone a job in capitalism because that takes away the reserve army of labor. And bosses can't threaten workers with being fired because there's someone else who can do the same labor for cheaper out of desperation.


[14-May-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
But we all shouldn't be working eight hours anyways. Ideally the shit we don't want to do should be ended, and those who did it can move on without having any negative reprocussions.


[14-May-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
We all take ownership of the material conditions of society. Not fifty people


[14-May-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
we were on track for 4 day work weeks back in the 60's (32 hours a week)


[14-May-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
but now we're working 40+ hours a week again and often even more than that, sometimes even without pay (walmart and amazon, two of the biggest companies in the world, are also some of the largest offenders of making their workers work without pay, but many white collar jobs like coding have legal contracts which allow a certain amount of forced unpaid work hours a week, which used to be illegal)


[14-May-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
basically, under those contracts you HAVE to work without pay or else the company can terminate you without severance/benefits/etc


[14-May-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
You're using a circular argument to more or less say that making money is okay because you make money


[14-May-19 11:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Me?


[14-May-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[14-May-19 11:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Making a profit means that they stay in business, increasing shareholders and capital to higher more people. If a business goes under its the business owner that takes a majority of the loss not the worker. A worker can go and find another job if he gets fired, a business owner is stuck with the debt the the business goes under.


[14-May-19 11:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The owner has more to lose than the worker


[14-May-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
why?


[14-May-19 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Buisiness owners don't actually take a loss. They can make a profit out of a loss still, and the employees get nothing.


[14-May-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
you forget that they don't need to just make a profit, they need to make an ever increasing amount of profit to stay in business


[14-May-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Besides, if the whole thing was run by everyone there's a statistical likelihood the buisiness will survive longer and has a better likelihood of getting out of the first years alive.


[14-May-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until there's regulations on forming a cooperative


[14-May-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Traditional buisinesses have something of a 30-40% survival rate where as co-ops have a 60% or some odd survivability.


[14-May-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow there is now. They make them harder to start. Banks and finance in general don't like to lend to them.


[14-May-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
what prevents all of a companies' workers from just quitting and reforming as a cooperative out from under their boss?


[14-May-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
But in the UK Corbyn proposed Right Of First Refusal and a cooperative lending bank so workers are asked first if they want to buy the company they worked for when it goes under and so they can run it collectively.


[14-May-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow the police stop that.


[14-May-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some workers are trying that in Greece and every so often they gotta fight the cops off. Them and the neighborhood.


[14-May-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
I just don't get how the US became so anti-socialist, I guess when your main opponent is a totalitarian regime that practices the most oppressive form of socialism, that causes tunnel vision onto only that type of socialism


[14-May-19 11:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard its because of lack of trust for our government


[15-May-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
you don't need the government to make things socialist


[15-May-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
cooperatives are socialist


[15-May-19 12:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If you look back on the history of the US, they started out with small government and gradually the government grew in power. It was around the Vietnam war and the Penagon papers along with other factors of the times lead to distrust with the government.  

America is a diverse country so its harder to cooperate, a lot of people outside the US know how divisive the US is


[15-May-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
disregarding the fact that there's a point that you need to start investing in a stronger central government at a certain population because there's so many people that without one, it would all just disintegrate into a bunch of fiefdoms, you once again completely ignored what I said in order to push the stereotypical centralized form of socialism


[15-May-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
You have my permission to cry "division" when we get Bleeding Kansas  @Sally Moon


[15-May-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
But not now


[15-May-19 12:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I guess I don't know as much as I thought I did.


[15-May-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
that's much more than most people will admit, so you're ahead of the curve in that regard lol


[15-May-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism

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[15-May-19 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
do people still unironically argue for marxist-leninism and stalinism


[15-May-19 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of crazy how quickly marxist-leninism devolved into totalitarian dictatorship


[15-May-19 12:35 AM] ononim#8141
Well, there's semas alyways to be a handful of little parties calling everyone else a revisionist


[15-May-19 12:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Do I have to read all of it?


[15-May-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
no, I just linked it as a reference


[15-May-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
socialism is waaaaay more complicated than marxist-leninism and stalinism (stalinism is derived from marxist-leninism and was the system in use up until stalin's death, then I'm not exactly sure what they did afterwards, I assume they moved back to marxist-leninism)


[15-May-19 12:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Which branch do you follow?


[15-May-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
none of them, I'm not a socialist


[15-May-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
I'm an advocate for social democracy


[15-May-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
which is a mixed economy that combines both capitalist and socialist policies


[15-May-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
those more to the left of me want capitalism gone entirely because of the fact that there's always the threat of capitalism spending a lot of money to subvert the whole system and start making things shitty again


[15-May-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
and it's not an unfounded worry


[15-May-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
considering that the US was borderline social democracy back in the 60's (only thing it was missing was universal healthcare)


[15-May-19 12:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah the 60s were bad in the us


[15-May-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
uhh, no they weren't


[15-May-19 12:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes they were


[15-May-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
you could buy a house after only a year working an entry-level job


[15-May-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
and be able to support a stay-at-home spouse and kids


[15-May-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
you could pay for an entire year of university at the most expensive universities in the country on a part-time summer job


[15-May-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
at minimum wage


[15-May-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
I don't know much about the healthcare side of things though


[15-May-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
the equivalent of the minimum wage in the 60's today would be like $27 an hour


[15-May-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
people are working insane amounts today for less than half of what they made in the 60's


[15-May-19 12:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
inflation


[15-May-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
what about it?


[15-May-19 12:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It happened, also it was also due to the fact we had most of the world's gold at the time due to WW2


[15-May-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
that's why minimum wage was increasing in line with the rate of inflation


[15-May-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
then the big companies said "lol nope" and bribed politicians to stop increasing it


[15-May-19 01:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You would rather we just have small businesses and no big business?


[15-May-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
yes, consolidating power is what caused all the problems we currently have today, and the politicians have been bribed too much to enforce antitrust laws


[15-May-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
basically, you can take a big ass company and break it into little pieces that are forced to compete with each other in order to continue existing


[15-May-19 01:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So if people like my product I shouldn't be allowed to expand it?


[15-May-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
You shouldn't be allowed to exploit the labor of others.


[15-May-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
good lord I just glanced at username and have gove "when did we destaff mikey" lol


[15-May-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
disregarding the fact that this has nothing to do with the original topic, expanding a business isn't as simple as just having a single product that everyone likes


[15-May-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
you're usually competing with multiple other products


[15-May-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
and if you're not, you'll soon be competing with them


[15-May-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
(facebook is an example of what happens when there's a huge market for a certain product that hasn't been properly tapped yet)


[15-May-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
facebook actually revealed one of the flaws of antitrust laws: what happens if the company manages to expand on its own without absorbing competition to the point that it's incapable of being challenged by competitors?


[15-May-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
since antitrust was specifically to combat the traditional form of company expansion: absorbing competitors


[15-May-19 01:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And what if the consumer likes my product and decides to use it over the others because I used good marketing so they know mine over the competition so decide to buy my product?


[15-May-19 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Perfect markets can't exist anyways, because inevitably someone with more starting capital than all the rest will move in and be able to provide a cheaper service or product at a cost lower than any others can afford for a sustained period and drive them out and they pick up their scraps for relatively cheap. In so far as resources are privately owned, they are commodities that can be bought and sold.


[15-May-19 01:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is no rational consumer for a commodity either, not in all cases at least.


[15-May-19 01:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
There is no perfect market like you said


[15-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
what you offered is a perfect scenario though


[15-May-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
just because it's not perfect doesn't mean it can't be _better_


[15-May-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
one that's never actually happened


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If you flood a market with products people will go for the one that is better promoted


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
But even on the product and/or service question, although you may have a *better* product or service, it is at the end of the day the result of your own labor. And all people deserving to have full rights to the product of their labor, the question of expansion of your own product or service impedes on someone else's individual capacity to practice their own labor.


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you also over promote no one will give a shit.


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
So might as well end that all together.


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fuck growth.


[15-May-19 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Growth got us to where we are.


[15-May-19 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dying on a burning planet.


[15-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
once again, disregarding the fact that it has nothing to do with the original topic, and also disregarding how implausible that sounds based on real world history and data, the biggest problem with expanding too much is that the company inevitably runs out of room to expand and either has to move elsewhere to keep expanding or die


[15-May-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
unchecked expansion is exactly why silicon valley start-ups are a meme


[15-May-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
big ass company explodes onto the market out of nowhere and has absurdly large growth rates, then suddenly it pops and it's like all that money never existed


[15-May-19 01:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Pokemon beat Digimon in the states due to many factors but the biggest one was advertisement.


[15-May-19 01:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Spoiler: culture industry is a big shit and not a fundamentally important, instrumental aspect in the quality of life of people.


[15-May-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Especially mass culture.


[15-May-19 01:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Nintendo advertised Pokemon a lot so more people knew about it


[15-May-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's besides the point though.


[15-May-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get back on point.


[15-May-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
I think the reason why pokemon got more popular is just because the show was a lot more suited to american viewers


[15-May-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
also, the trading card game was huge as well


[15-May-19 01:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
true but Pokemon was just better advertised, I can't recall many digimon commercials but I know a lot of Pokemon


[15-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
besides the fact that it's anecdotal evidence, I saw plenty of digimon commercials when I was a kid in the 90's


[15-May-19 01:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I didn't in the 2000s


[15-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the original point is that big businesses fuck over the economy and the government


[15-May-19 01:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Business grow


[15-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't have to grow though


[15-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
growth is enforced by the current system


[15-May-19 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Someone's growth comes at the cost of someone's poverty.


[15-May-19 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why is someone else's interest more important than my own?


[15-May-19 01:24 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes it does, you start a business to make money, passion comes second its sad but true


[15-May-19 01:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
If it's sad but true then it's something that doesn't deserve to exist.


[15-May-19 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
But you never answered my statement: what makes someone else's interests more important than my own, or yours?


[15-May-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
in the current system, you start a business to make money, but it doesn't have to be that way


[15-May-19 01:26 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Because you need a spine if you are going to make it in the business world, if you are afraid to step on peoples toes then the Business world isn't for you


[15-May-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm not afraid of stepping on spines. I'll happily line up buisiness people against the wall to step forward into a democratic future.


[15-May-19 01:27 AM] Macarou#9574
How does that relate to interests Miley?


[15-May-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
that's a fallacy if I've ever seen one


[15-May-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
But you never answered the question: Why is it someone's interests, their growth be more important than my own, or anyone else's? Don't we all deserve to live and pursue happiness?


[15-May-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's like a mash-up of 3 fallacies lol


[15-May-19 01:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes we do but we know not everyone can


[15-May-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Answer the question, kid


[15-May-19 01:31 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I we deserve happiness yes, but not everyone can be happy. If I have to let you go to save the business then I will let you go


[15-May-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
there's systems where you don't have to do that though


[15-May-19 01:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You can't keep everyone people get fired everyday if you don't have the heart to fire people then you can't stay in business.


[15-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
in norway, no one gets fired for profit reasons


[15-May-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you run a cafe why should you have to crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women?


[15-May-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
if their job is made redundant by automation, they are trained to work elsewhere in the company and paid during training


[15-May-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
`Why is it someone's interests, their growth be more important than my own, or anyone else's?`


[15-May-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/14/richer-sounds-staff-julian-richer

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[15-May-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is in the UK  which seems to be a growing business trend


[15-May-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Sally Moon The problem with your arguments is that you're thinking entirely within the framework of capitalism.


[15-May-19 01:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What is wrong with thinking like a business owner?


[15-May-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
everything


[15-May-19 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because business is not economics.


[15-May-19 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it's certainly not political-economy.


[15-May-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
To think like a buisiness owner is to think in accordance with the competitive dog-eat-dog mindset demanded, and not in a pro-social way.


[15-May-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
business owners are savages in terms of runnign things


[15-May-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
It promotes a hyper-individualist mind-set, based on the alienation of the self in relation to others. That for all intents and purposes others do not exist.


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are unnecissarily cruel, cunning, and far too willing to sell out their peers to make a quick buck


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Others are a means to and end for personal gratification, and not members of a shared society where common goals can be reached for the mutual benefit of everyone.


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The business owner took the risk with starting the business not the worker


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
No they didn't.


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
That's moving the goalposts


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
The buisiness owner has more capital and money on hand to go through a failure unscathed.


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they and the workers took the risk to make the business work


[15-May-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then get a equal or better job elsewhere.


[15-May-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone else has to suffer through the sudden loss of their job.


[15-May-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the worker the business owner has no business


[15-May-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
And since we're in a tenuous position anyways, the business owner fucking up puts us all at risk.


[15-May-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I live in a state skull fucked by its business leaders. And they get off clean as a whistle.


[15-May-19 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where as the rest of us find ourselves crawling to Wal Mart.


[15-May-19 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's plenty more parts of the country like that.


[15-May-19 01:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So you take a few bad business owners and apply it to others...


[15-May-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these days when a business is failing the ceo and board of directors cut themselves some big fat checks, flee the collapse, and leave the workers to rot for themselves


[15-May-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not the point of this argument


[15-May-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
and you still haven't answered the question


[15-May-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
`Why is it someone's interests, their growth be more important than my own, or anyone else's?`


[15-May-19 01:43 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I did answer it


[15-May-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
no, you dodged the question


[15-May-19 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Miley is in the death note.


[15-May-19 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
The red book waits


[15-May-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
1: `I we deserve happiness yes, but not everyone can be happy. If I have to let you go to save the business then I will let you go`
2: `What is wrong with thinking like a business owner?`


[15-May-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
neither of those answer the question


[15-May-19 01:45 AM] Sally Moon#4922
...


[15-May-19 01:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't know how to answer that question


[15-May-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a good start


[15-May-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48266200

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Dictator's daughter barred from presidency
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[15-May-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I went to college with a Bucaram apparently


[15-May-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I hear she didn't like to talk about it


[15-May-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if my dad was nicknamed the Madman, handed out his mix tapes at a summit, and was not allowed to resign so he could be removed


[15-May-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd probably ignore it too


[15-May-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1128363254689009670

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[15-May-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck lol


[15-May-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine starting a blog because you want Loli this badly


[15-May-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
OAG is a joke


[15-May-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Its MO is "go to 4chan steal what people are talking about and get rage clicks"


[15-May-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's like he's saying that discussing sex at any other level than "put penis in vagina to make baby DONT DO THIS UNLESS 18 YEARS OLD OR MARRIED" will somehow permanently damage kids' psyches


[15-May-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are people on twitter who believe dating at 16 permanently scars


[15-May-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
after they hav done so


[15-May-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
while being shitheads with no actual psychological issues


[15-May-19 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They are using twitter. the scars are clear.


[15-May-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie This site exists because developers finally learned Japan is fucked up and sexualizing 12 year olds


[15-May-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And are telling them to stop


[15-May-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan isn't fukked up, it hardly even cares.


[15-May-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone just sees Japan not stomping down on anything out of the ordinary and starts stomping it in response.


[15-May-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same as with the Yakuza stuff


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan takes the approach that you don't need to completely snuff out organized crime


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean the game controversy


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just need to keep them at tolerable levels.


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a trip


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so a game about the Yakuza had a VA who got busted for cocaine in Japan and they redid all of his lines and remodeled his character


[15-May-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan has a completely different perspective on cultural rule enforcement than the English


[15-May-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This Arthur episode is basically everything conservatives "asked for" in this kind of story


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The characters don't even mention it


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just happens


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Arthur episode?


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what the tweet is about


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Arthur's teacher got married


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
This is not the first time a Yakuza character got removed from a game because of coke. Yakuza 4 3 playable characters the cop character was replaced in the PS4 and PC version of the game.


[15-May-19 02:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-y4U4gpi5k

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Sargon's campaign highlights musical medley
It's difficult to tell whether he got milkshaked, or if he got so high on his own farts that he just jizzed up all over himself! My twitter: https://twitter....
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[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whole episode they follow him around and see a woman yelling at him and are worried


[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's his sister


[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They think it's his future wife


[15-May-19 02:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Discussion about Orange Man coming to UK.  https://youtu.be/U-HT6-fcTK8

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[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a twist ending that he's gay


[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[15-May-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot for young Timmy to take in because clearly young Timmy has already been indoctrinated against the gays


[15-May-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man imagine if that CMC ep ended with Cheerilee making out with Berry Punch


[15-May-19 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Cheerilee should aim higher than an alcoholic.


[15-May-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, Japan still hates the gays. But it hates them about as much as anime so

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[15-May-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The composer of Dragon Quest is amazingly racist and anti LGBT


[15-May-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan's whole deal is, like


[15-May-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's more important you don't make a lot of noise than anything else


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, did you see the thing about a transgender character in paper mario 2 being turned female in the US translation because it would increase the rating of the game in the US?


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be Hitler himself and fart in every elevator, but you hav to keep the noise down.


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Games had no ratings back then


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
what?


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
this is like 2003


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure there was the ESRB by the time of Paper Mario 2


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Misread it as super Mario 2


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
2004 specifically


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Vivian


[15-May-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[15-May-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Paper Mario is ded


[15-May-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now it is


[15-May-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mariowiki.com/Vivian

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[15-May-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
>In the original Japanese version of the game and some translations, Vivian is depicted as transgender, identifying as female but, due to the age rating the localizers were aiming at when translating Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, this is lost in the English version and she is described only with feminine pronouns.


[15-May-19 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't get it


[15-May-19 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's a blob


[15-May-19 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A guy calling themselves a girl is in no way sexual. How would that affect rating at all?


[15-May-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nintendo does micro-optimizations for securing ESRB ratings and sales


[15-May-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but apparently the implication is enough to changhe the age rating for reasons


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
there are jokes in the game directed at the trans aspect of the character


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How did Nintendo inform the player that this blob was born with male genitalia and then became transgender


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's a semi-major plot point in the japanese version that she comes to accept herself as who she is


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely that would've upset people to see a trans character disparaged


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if this was a factor in Miyamotos demands later


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The English version instead calls her "plug-ugly"


[15-May-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No character that wasn't in Super Mario World"


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's unlikely Nintendo thought much of this


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the changes were to dialog in localization


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The entire reason people liked the series was removed


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
some localization team probably decided it was a bit racey


[15-May-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some...interesting changes that can happen in localization


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Memes being added


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo recently said they weren't political


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did the same for the German version


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Localization is awful


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
NIntendo's thing is to avoid politics, not to not hav a stance.


[15-May-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen what some games and shows/movies have done for spanish


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Japan, children's entertainment has less scrutiny


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can make all the inappropriate jokes you want


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's bad, it's real bad


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pokemon in the original japanese has ball and dikk jokes


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
and guns


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, not in the technical sense, but the memes and cultural sense


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the 4kids one piece rap


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making a few jokes about a trans character being trans is thus fine as well


[15-May-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody will raise a fuss


[15-May-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
No matter how much they secretly hate it, they'll just enjoy the rest of the product and move on


[15-May-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Western audiences aren't like that.


[15-May-19 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
James in team rocket had wore a bikini with inflatable breast implants.


[15-May-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Western audiences start raising hell because their kid heard the word "cock" and the game had a racist joke or something.


[15-May-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-May-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that were on Derpi it'd be rated Suggestive btw


[15-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if James was standing up straight


[15-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both of their bikinis are in "too much boob showing" territory


[15-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus deemed unsafe for kids


[15-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Japan, tho, that's fukkin' fine.


[15-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody raised a fuss.


[15-May-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
One time a fuss *did* get raised about a cartoon there, it was the PPG anime


[15-May-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it had a scene where the RowdyRuff Boys pee from a rooftop on to people in the streets


[15-May-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh...


[15-May-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was slightly too far for Japanese censors


[15-May-19 02:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[15-May-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so usually when it airs it uses the censored version where they use a hose.


[15-May-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
To repeat: *Golden showers* are the limit of what you can show to kids on Japanese cartoons.


[15-May-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it any wonder they struggle with localization for the incredible sensitivity of western audiences?


[15-May-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are fukkers in the US who think showing two kids dating each other isn't okay.

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[15-May-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
two kids holding hands is lewd as fuck and should be banned from all media

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[15-May-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are church groups who look at kids jumping on a bed shirtless on a billboard and contact the city complaining it looks too suggestive to them


[15-May-19 02:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Maybe the should stop thinking about kids like that. 🚔


[15-May-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right?


[15-May-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's legal precedent in the Supreme Court that you judge whether something's CP by taking the mindset of a pedophile.


[15-May-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of an English thing to always take the mindset of evil when deciding whether something is innocent.


[15-May-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ars-n2y9lpc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ars-n2y9lpc
Powerpuff Girls Z Ep. 20 Comparison
A comparison showing changes made in episode 20 of Powerpuff Girls Z. Rate, comment, whatever. Disclaimer: I don't own any of the footage used in the video. ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ars-n2y9lpc/hqdefault.jpg


[15-May-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking do you now better understand what the deal with Japan is?


[15-May-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Qace0E7.jpg

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https://imgur.com/Qace0E7
Sad that this is a good idea
https://i.imgur.com/Qace0E7.jpg

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[15-May-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/kellenbrent/status/1121215513059708930

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Kellen Degenerate🎙 (@kellenbrent)
https://twitter.com/kellenbrent/status/1121215513059708930
Dear Mexican Cartel,

Sorry about marijuana, but if you want to make up for that lost revenue, we could really use some fucking insulin. 

Grácias,
The United States
Twitter


[15-May-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.unian.info/politics/10548408-parliament-speaker-parubiy-signs-ukraine-s-language-bill.html

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https://www.unian.info/politics/10548408-parliament-speaker-parubiy-signs-ukraine-s-language-bill.html
Parliament Speaker Parubiy signs Ukraine's language bill
It is yet to be signed into law by President Poroshenko.
https://images.unian.net/photos/2019_05/thumb_files/1000_545_1557833393-6148.jpg?1


[15-May-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Punchable face.


[15-May-19 03:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The censoring is odd considering jokes of a similar nature are made in US made cartoons. Pretty sure Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy had a pee joke. Dexters lab had a naked episode. fosters home for imaginary friends had Bloo make out with a petrified piece of shit. Then there is Ren and Stimpy.


[15-May-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
A pee joke where actual people got peed on, onscreen?


[15-May-19 03:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Not on screen but it was implied.


[15-May-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/14/san-francisco-facial-recognition-ban/

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/14/san-francisco-facial-recognition-ban/
San Francisco passes city government ban on facial recognition tec...
On Tuesday, San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors voted to approve a ban on the use of facial recognition tech by city agencies, including the police department. The Stop Secret Surveillance Ordinance, introduced by San Francisco Supervisor Aaron Peskin, is the first ban of ...
https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/surveillance-block.png?w=711


[15-May-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing


[15-May-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan goes further


[15-May-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's one thing to imply, it's another to show


[15-May-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
>On Tuesday, San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors voted to approve a ban on the use of facial recognition tech by city agencies, including the police department. The Stop Secret Surveillance Ordinance, introduced by San Francisco Supervisor Aaron Peskin, is the first ban of its kind for a major American city and the seventh major surveillance oversight effort for a municipality in California.


[15-May-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking


[15-May-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's going to be hilarious when there's a court case in which it comes to light that the police did use facial recognition to catch a criminal and the conviction is overturned


[15-May-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's going to be something really dumb too


[15-May-19 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/qN9hJMtpOPc?t=66

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Syzo Trump
https://youtu.be/qN9hJMtpOPc?t=66
The Powerpuff Girls S05E08a - Pee Pee G's (Full Episode) Part 3/4
The Powerpuff Girls S05E08a - Pee Pee G's (Full Episode) Part 3/4.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qN9hJMtpOPc/hqdefault.jpg


[15-May-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
like the police didn't have to use the facial recognition tech to catch the guy, but did so because it was easier


[15-May-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let's have fun. Explain this picture to me: https://cristianmontes.artstation.com/projects/rOlE6?album_id=158041

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Judgement
This illustration was part of an advertising graphic campaign for a historical special edition by the spanish scientific maghazine "Muy INteresante" (Very Interesting).
https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/868/907/large/cristian-montes-cas10.jpg?1453986641

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[15-May-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was presented to me as a painting showing "the trial of communism vs capitalism"


[15-May-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
But noting makes sense.


[15-May-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
When you get down into the details and who is where


[15-May-19 03:19 AM] ononim#8141
Why are Mao(?) And Ermest at the centre


[15-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
why is MLK on the "capitalist" side


[15-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
he was pretty leftist


[15-May-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
Why is MLK (?) on the side of helicopter guy an Nixon


[15-May-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
Niniad


[15-May-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, who's the guy to the left of the dalai lama?


[15-May-19 03:26 AM] ononim#8141
Pinochet


[15-May-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
>MLK on the same side as Nixon


[15-May-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're a retard.


[15-May-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
god, that's retarded


[15-May-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no deeper meaning here.


[15-May-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
pinochet was the dictator of chile who the US replaced the democratically elected socialist with


[15-May-19 03:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The artist took Highschool history class.


[15-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet

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Augusto Pinochet
Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte (; Spanish: [auˈɣusto pinoˈ(t)ʃe, -ˈ(t)ʃet]; 25 November 1915 – 10 December 2006) was a Chilean general, politician and dictator of Chile between 1973 and 1990 who remained the Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army until 1998 and ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Augusto_Pinochet_foto_oficial.jpg


[15-May-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has no one mentioned the fucking Pope on the communist side


[15-May-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
kek https://www.quora.com/Was-Abraham-Lincoln-a-socialist

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Was Abraham Lincoln a socialist? - Quora
No, and the divisions back then don’t so clearly match that labor-vs-capital/owners divide that was dominant a couple generations later. The Republican Party found itself representing both labor and capital (the North’s interests), so in a way rep...


[15-May-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
second answer is the retarded "hurr modern democrats slavery modern republicans freedom" meme


[15-May-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, and he said that lincoln actually wanted to forcefully ship freed slaves to liberia


[15-May-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[15-May-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
that's not what he wanted to do at all


[15-May-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
he supported their decision, but he never wanted to forcefully remove freed slaves from the US


[15-May-19 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking judging by the looks of it, that's not even Pope Francis lol


[15-May-19 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though that might not be any Pope but instead some left-leaning catholic priest? I'm not sure


[15-May-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-dont-see-him-crying-uncle-trump-believes-china-tariffs-will-help-him-win-reelection/2019/05/14/e7fd67fe-7657-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html


[15-May-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
so trump straight up admits he's tanking the economy to fuel his rabid voter base


[15-May-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
>President Trump is telling advisers and close allies that he has no intention of pulling back on his escalating trade war with China, arguing that clashing with Beijing is highly popular with his political base and will help him win reelection in 2020 regardless of any immediate economic pain.


[15-May-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is basically turning into the wall all over again but mroe dangerous


[15-May-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/13/fears-rise-over-potential-for-conflict-between-us-and-iran.html

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Fears rise over conflict with Iran — and Washington 'has no effe...
The oil price spiked Monday, with Brent crude jumping more than 1.5% in a sign of market concern over provocative behavior from both Washington and Tehran.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105907465-1557524030423rtx6v6xq.jpg?v=1557524089


[15-May-19 04:28 AM] Plonkett#6636
https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/Congregants-picking-up-pieces-after-fire-at-New-13840844.php

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New Haven fire chief: Mosque blaze was arson
NEW HAVEN - The fire that  scarred the Diyanet Mosque of New Haven Sunday  was intentionally set, Fire Chief John Alston said Monday. 
 Alston stood in the steady rain before the blackened front and the white minarets of the house of worship as he announced the initial result...
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/02/37/10/17429012/35/rawImage.jpg


[15-May-19 05:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't care what you have against Muslims, setting a mosque ablaze will not ease the pain


[15-May-19 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not to ease the pain, it's just hate and spite


[15-May-19 05:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That is sad


[15-May-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/578071658758275072/IMG_20180507_070653.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/578071658758275072/IMG_20180507_070653.png


[15-May-19 06:14 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[15-May-19 06:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's some grade-A hypocrisy right there


[15-May-19 06:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But whatever


[15-May-19 06:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:shrugpony:


[15-May-19 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:blep:


[15-May-19 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that notice screams redneck


[15-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/v9alo

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Costco store managers' 'surprising' 6-figure salaries revealed | F...
archived 15 May 2019 02:19:31 UTC
https://archive.fo/v9alo/904710c973df65dfd69b7c098967ee4d160f4475.jpg


[15-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
>Roughly a week after Walmart shared in a new report that its U.S. store managers are taking home an average of $175,000 a year, Reader's Digest resurfaced just how much Costco is shelling out in comparison. And the publication says its findings are pretty "surprising."


[15-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
>In June 2018 the wholesale retailer announced it was raising its minimum wage to $14 per hour from $13 and this past March management boosted that rate to $15.00-$15.50, as noted by CFO Richard Galanti on the company's March earnings call.


[15-May-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
>In comparison, Walmart and Target pay $11 and $13, respectively.


[15-May-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
>Costco pays employees some of the highest wages among U.S. retailers — with the average hourly salary of $22.50.


[15-May-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr walmart's bragging about its average manager salary, but costco's has much better benefits for everyone, on top of paying everyone a lot more and offering a lot of bonuses to more people as well as just treating their workers much better than walmart does


[15-May-19 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
costco needs to expand to my area


[15-May-19 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Costco's average hourly salary is inflated because they report pharmacists, optometrists, and opthalmologists


[15-May-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
they offer a lot of paths to becoming that from a basic shelf stocker or cashier too


[15-May-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
which include paying you during training


[15-May-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
basically, costco operates much more like a company in a nordic model country than an american company


[15-May-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
the only downsides I've seen from worker's reviews who complain about "lazy" people eventually getting promoted before them because that "lazy" person's been employed longer, and that there's too many managers due to that aforementioned eventual promotion


[15-May-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
... what are you talking about? there is no "path" to becoming a pharmacist from retail


[15-May-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to go to med school


[15-May-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
yes, they have a training program


[15-May-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
for employees to move into their pharmacies


[15-May-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
a pharmacy tech doesn't need much but a pharmacist is either a PharmD or a PhD


[15-May-19 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
that's a lot of school to pay for


[15-May-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
I guess it must've been pharmacy techs


[15-May-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
I just remember reading that they'll pay for a lot of more specialized training to move into other positions in the company starting from retail


[15-May-19 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah you don't need anything to become a tech depending on your state and at most it's a small certifictaion exam which requires memorizing about 200 drugs brand and generic names


[15-May-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
apparently pharmacists make a starting wage of $50-60 an hour at costco


[15-May-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
that seems like a mind-bogglingly large amout of money to me tbh


[15-May-19 06:44 AM] Honahue#0656
pharmacists go through the same amount of school a a doctor


[15-May-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently being a pharmacist at walmart is incredibly stressful compared to costco


[15-May-19 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
being a pharmacist sucks at retail, I worked as a tech for a year


[15-May-19 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
walmart pharmacist starting pay is slightly higher, but not worth the hassle if you can work at costco from what I'm reading


[15-May-19 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean they get paid well but you're the one that holds legal responsibility for patient safety


[15-May-19 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I didn't work at WalMart though but I suspect they probably have some of the same probelms


[15-May-19 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
micromanagment and dumb goals


[15-May-19 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
it's fucking medicine you can't just tell people to get more


[15-May-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
apparently even at costco it's all about the number of sales and money made


[15-May-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
but that seems to be a retail problem in general


[15-May-19 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I think retail pharmacy in general fucks with the way people think about medical care and medicine


[15-May-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
drive thru pharmacy is a curse


[15-May-19 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not fast food it's medicine


[15-May-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
walgreens has that iirc


[15-May-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
idk if rite aid does or not though


[15-May-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
just about every retail pharmacy does


[15-May-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
rite aid is apparently being bought out by walgreens though


[15-May-19 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe a mom and pop shop doesn't


[15-May-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've ever seen a mom and pop pharmacy before lol


[15-May-19 06:51 AM] Honahue#0656
but let me tell ya people are fucking gross


[15-May-19 06:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Don't think a mom and pop pharmacy could really work nowadays


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
they do, they usually do specialty medicine that retail doesn't do like compounds


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
small business in general doesn't work very well anymore


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Figures


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
against absurdly large companies like walmart, there's not much room to compete


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
unfortunatly most insurance doesn't like compounds and don't pay for it


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
especially when all the local politicians are bought out (or soon to be bought out) by them


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
depends


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Compounds is a really vague word


[15-May-19 06:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wdym


[15-May-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
I think the pushback in NYC is one of the first major victories any local area in the country has had against an absurd monstrosity like amazon


[15-May-19 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
most stuff in retail comes in a package from the drug maker


[15-May-19 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
tubes of ointment, pills, liquids whatever, premade by Merek or whomever


[15-May-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
and that was only successful because NYC is such a rich city to begin with


[15-May-19 06:54 AM] Honahue#0656
compounds are stuff that isn't super shelf stable when mixed up so it's made by the pharmacists in stores based in the Rx


[15-May-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oic


[15-May-19 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
certain ointments and stuff, cocaine used to be a popular topical anesthetic and had to be made up when needed


[15-May-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
is this like custom-made stuff?


[15-May-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
or ordered from elsewhere


[15-May-19 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
sorta custom


[15-May-19 06:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It seems like it needs to be made on the spot because it can't be stored


[15-May-19 06:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So it probably doesn't come from an external source (well, the raw materials needed for it, maybe)


[15-May-19 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
the dry stuff can be stored but once it's mixed it doesn't last as long but that's fine for a 2 week treatment or whatever


[15-May-19 06:57 AM] Honahue#0656
there are other fancier compounds too that aren't made as much, pharmacist used to have a practical part of their recertifications where they had to make pills, or eyedrops or whatever


[15-May-19 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
way back when pharmacists would make all their drugs at the store for you from bulk supplies


[15-May-19 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
there's still some hold over measurements too like Drams


[15-May-19 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
or grains


[15-May-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/14/abortion-bill-alabama-passes-ban-six-weeks-us-no-exemptions-vote-latest

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Alabama abortion ban: Republican senate passes most restrictive la...
Law bans abortion except if there is a ‘serious health risk’ to the mother, with no exceptions for rape and incest
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[15-May-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
apparently they want to make this end up at the SCOTUS to repeal Roe V Wade


[15-May-19 07:35 AM] Mikey#7286
fuck off


[15-May-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a Democratic president calling a national emergency over abortion rights


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
that's what's going to happen after trump


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
if the democrats had any spine, anyway


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make the wall government shutdown look like a Sunday afternoon family trip to Taco Bell


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't even think bernie will have much of a spine


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
if he does get elected


[15-May-19 07:54 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's this


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://youtu.be/kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmcpiM3SSOA/hqdefault.jpg


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
fake news


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[15-May-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't an impression, just leaked audio


[15-May-19 07:56 AM] Mikey#7286
lol ok


[15-May-19 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey Dems idolize FDR


[15-May-19 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who will undo the stitch in time


[15-May-19 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(FDR wanted to pack the supreme court but was rebuffed)


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
I thought that was wrong tho


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
I think most people did lol


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Mikey#7286
FDR also caused congress to enact term limits on presidents


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It kind of is because it will never stop


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If a Democratic president expands it to 13, the next Republican will make it 17


[15-May-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it will never end


[15-May-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
bernie suggested something like a sort of preset rotation of justices every 5 years moving in and out from the court of appeals


[15-May-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should not be for life.


[15-May-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be 25 years or so


[15-May-19 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And age requirements


[15-May-19 08:02 AM] Honahue#0656
FDR enacted term limits cause he was damn popular though and died in office


[15-May-19 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I have a terrific headache"- FDRs last words


[15-May-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's because he didn't follow the customary 2 term limit


[15-May-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
so it was made official


[15-May-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
kind of like how pretty much all the shit trump is getting away with is because he's breaking all the civil customs and traditions because there's no law against it


[15-May-19 08:03 AM] Honahue#0656
it was only customary cause Washington did it and Washington only did it cause the Roman twice dictator Cinnciantus did it


[15-May-19 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one has argued for limited presidential powers in decades


[15-May-19 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both sides want a lot of power


[15-May-19 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
though congress has been a shitshow for half a century


[15-May-19 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Congress is supposed to be the one with the power


[15-May-19 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
The executive is not


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] byte[]#2610
How did we get here


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie could have the strokest spine in the Presidency but it won't matter if he doesn't have a Congress willing to work with him though


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
two people: trump and mcconnell


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have Graham and Pelosi and Schumer


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who are basically mini presidents now


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
you mean mcconnell?


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And McConnell


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
schumer can't do much as minority leader


[15-May-19 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean Senators have more power than the president in a lot of ways


[15-May-19 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still a mini president basically


[15-May-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's the majority leader that's appropriated all of the power of the VP


[15-May-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
it will go to schumer if the democrats win the senate in 2020 though


[15-May-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
mcconnell is literally shutting down a sixth of the government to protect trump


[15-May-19 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Point is that they shouldn't be mini presidents


[15-May-19 08:07 AM] Mikey#7286
mcconnell i feel will be on his way out next year


[15-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
kentucky is supposedly livid at mcconnell


[15-May-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
he's from Kentucky though, it only matters if they hate him


[15-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
which would mean that a few credible challengers might rise up


[15-May-19 08:07 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe but Kentucky pretty well sucks


[15-May-19 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20% support there


[15-May-19 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
that's really the biggest hope


[15-May-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-anthony-weiner-released-halfway-house-sexting-20190514-ydi22owe5bbwfnr7gjujrx7kle-story.html

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Anthony Weiner released from halfway house in Bronx as he complete...
Anthony Weiner is a free man.The sentence of the disgraced former New York lawmaker ended Tuesday morning when he walked out of a halfway house in the Bronx.
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[15-May-19 08:25 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[15-May-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/europe/brexit-june-3-theresa-may-intl/index.html

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Theresa May wants a fourth vote on her Brexit deal
Can't wait to see what happens in the UK's Brexit saga? A new vote on an exit deal proposed by Theresa May now has a date: the week of June 3—the same week that Donald Trump begins his controversial state visit to the country.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190410154852-03-theresa-may-0410-super-tease.jpg


[15-May-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
can someone please put her out of her misery

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[15-May-19 08:27 AM] Mikey#7286
lmaooo


[15-May-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
also it seems like it's been all but confirmed that trump is looking to start a war with iran to ensure reelection


[15-May-19 08:36 AM] Mikey#7286
oh yeah, let's go to war with another country for no reason


[15-May-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the fascist approach.


[15-May-19 08:43 AM] Mikey#7286
hey


[15-May-19 08:43 AM] Mikey#7286
what happened to Bush Jr when he went to war with Iraq?


[15-May-19 08:43 AM] Mikey#7286
didn't he become like


[15-May-19 08:43 AM] Mikey#7286
super unpopular


[15-May-19 08:43 AM] Mikey#7286
:thunk:


[15-May-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not initially, but a neverending war does start to drain popularity.


[15-May-19 09:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey That was more because 9/11 that let him get away with it. And a lot of CIA fabrication.


[15-May-19 09:05 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[15-May-19 11:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Here we go again...


[15-May-19 11:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
What now?


[15-May-19 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
With 2020 coming up I see Trump trying several increasingly dangerous stunts to ensure re-election


[15-May-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
first iot was the wall and the government shutdown, now it's a trade war with china, and the attempt at war with iran


[15-May-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the more desperate he gets to secure a voter base the worse shit is going to get for us


[15-May-19 02:33 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Yeah Bush Jr had the perfect storm of going to war without hurting his chances for re-election


[15-May-19 02:34 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
With Trump it’s really obvious why he wants to go to war, which is something no one wants to go through right now


[15-May-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile thanks to the food tariffs on imported food from mexico, canada, and china prices are about to become even more unaffordable


[15-May-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d2fc57fd74bb45eabdcc15338277ed2d

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Iran's supreme leader makes uranium enrichment threat
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran's supreme leader issued a veiled threat in the same speech in which he stated that "no one is seeking war," saying it wouldn't be difficult for the Islamic...
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[15-May-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/a2af9039533b42bba0e4e04af11ecd67

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DeSantis: Russians accessed 2 Florida voting databases
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Russian hackers gained access to voter databases in two Florida counties ahead of the 2016 presidential election, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis said at a news conference...
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[15-May-19 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Incumbent US presidents doing wacky shit and throwing wacky geopolitical gambles isn't unprecedented tho


[15-May-19 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jimmy Carter also tried to invade Iran in 1979/1980 after its islamic revolution with the only goal being rescuing American hostages held up in Tehran


[15-May-19 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It expectedly failed


[15-May-19 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw

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Operation Eagle Claw
Operation Eagle Claw, known as Operation Tabas (Persian: عملیات طبس‎) in Iran, was a United States Armed Forces operation ordered by U.S. President Jimmy Carter to attempt to end the Iran hostage crisis by rescuing 52 embassy staff held captive at the Embassy of th...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Eagle_Claw_wrecks_at_Desert_One_April_1980.jpg


[15-May-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but that was to end a hostage situation, Trump's geopiolitical gambles have only one end goal and that's to rally a voter base


[15-May-19 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not really, it is stated that Carter's gamble to rescue the hostages in Iran was also to convince US voterbase that he had balls or something


[15-May-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[15-May-19 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/us/white-supremacy-terrorism-soh/index.html

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Tackle white supremacy as terrorism, experts say
Deadly attacks by white supremacists are on the rise, but in most cases their acts are not considered terrorism. Experts say that must change, even if it's hard for some Americans.
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[15-May-19 04:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2019/04/12/high-court-will-decide-if-indigenous-people-without-citizenship-can-be-deported

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High Court will decide if Indigenous people without citizenship ca...
Lawyers will argue in the High Court of Australia this month that Indigenous people should be exempt from the government’s mandatory deportation powers. Immigration laws changed in 2014 allowing visas to be revoked if a person has been convicted of a crime carrying a jail s...
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/sites/sbs.com.au.nitv/files/styles/full/public/20171027001321688921-original.jpg?itok=jbQTmwrq


[15-May-19 05:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/ocasio-cortez-postal-banking

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Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders want your Post Office to double as a bank
The Post Office rejected a postal banking proposal suggested in 2014.
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2018/08/0/0/ocasio-sanders.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[15-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Pragmatic, but doomed


[15-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Eliminate banks instead


[15-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
The wealth belongs to the people


[15-May-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/443788-police-interrupt-shooting-outside-elementary-school-in-wisconsin-report

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Police interrupt shooting outside elementary school in Wisconsin: ...
A man was arrested Wednesday outside of an elementary school in Wisconsin after firing several shots, according to local police.
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[15-May-19 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.facebook.com/USEmbVienna/photos/a.114538390993/10156264425575994/?type=3

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U.S. Embassy Vienna
https://www.facebook.com/USEmbVienna/photos/a.114538390993/10156264425575994/?type=3
U.S. Embassy Vienna
Info from the Consular Section: 
New partnership with McDonald's Austria to help U.S. citizens in need - Ambassador Traina signed Memorandum of Agreement today

American citizens traveling in Austria...
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[15-May-19 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
not the onion


[15-May-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[15-May-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0463abca6436472cb44176602078b24f

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US births lowest in 3 decades despite improving economy
America's baby bust isn't over. The nation's birth rates last year reached record lows for women in their teens and 20s, a government report shows, leading to the fewest babies in 32...
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[15-May-19 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Post office in germany are also banks


[15-May-19 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is fairly convenient as they have ATMs and deposit machines


[15-May-19 09:11 PM] Honahue#0656
Good, I like this antinatalism


[15-May-19 09:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Them Germans like efficiency.


[15-May-19 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-May-19 09:44 PM] ononim#8141
one subreddit is in hotwater for saying that slave owners should be shot


[15-May-19 09:46 PM] ononim#8141
>federal news unionically say the phrase "false-patriarch" when referencing new ukrainian church


[15-May-19 09:46 PM] ononim#8141
kill me


[15-May-19 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Russian holy war on Ukraine when?


[15-May-19 09:47 PM] ononim#8141
CLeanisng of Heresy CB


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Russia declares war on Ukraine to cleanse heresy


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Greece somehow decides to help Ukraine


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Some ding bats from Europe decide the war needs their moderation


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>US, trying too hard to go to war with Iran ignores the whole ordeal


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Turkey fits in somewhere


[15-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Crimean War 2: Electric Bugaloo


[15-May-19 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/pLwYMecqOxY

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Shapira Shapira
https://youtu.be/pLwYMecqOxY
The Joy of Painting Swastikas with Bernd Ross | Shapira Shapira
Nazis sind auch nicht mehr das, was sie mal waren. Shahak hat auf seiner Tour festgestellt, dass die Rechten nicht mal mehr das Hakenkreuz richtig hinbekomme...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pLwYMecqOxY/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-May-19 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
I hope r/CTH does get banned for saying kill slave owners because it would be a nice confirmation that reddita is an alt right pit


[15-May-19 10:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What is CTH about?


[15-May-19 10:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
CTH for Chapo Trap House. A political comedy podcast


[15-May-19 10:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_AKCZxAoSc

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AndroidPolitician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_AKCZxAoSc
Chapo Trap House - 9/11 Artifacts and Jesse Ventura
Eyyy who wants ah first respondah's fingah? From Episode 46 https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-46-no-cucks-in-a-foxhole-feat-jadomian-10416 Ey c...
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[15-May-19 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/Ayh5zi68_QQy-RQ2SDewhAQ

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Who's the real winner of the Tati Westbrook, James Charles feud? G...
“Their brand has gotten so much recognition, and so much earned media, all from one Instagram story James Charles posted," Captiv8 co-founder Krishna Subramanian said.
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[15-May-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
here, I fixed it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/578319538614173696/Screenshot_from_2019-05-15_16-34-21.png

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[15-May-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/teenage-girl-kills-herself-after-instagram-poll-in-malaysia

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Teenage girl kills herself 'after Instagram poll' in Malaysia
Police investigating after she asked her followers to choose death or life and 69% voted for death
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[15-May-19 11:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>“Did the encouragement of those netizens actually influence her decision to take her own life? Since attempted suicide is an offence in this country, it follows that abetting one to attempt suicide may be, too.”*


[15-May-19 11:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>[...] attempted suicide is an offence in this country [...]*


[15-May-19 11:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[15-May-19 11:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"You failed to kill yourself. Here's a jail cell"


[15-May-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Collectivist countries in a nutshell.


[15-May-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>saying slave owners should be shot is wrong


[15-May-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
JOHN BROWN WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION


[15-May-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Will fix that easily


[15-May-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With broadswords.


[15-May-19 11:42 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsvH7_EF34

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Comedy Central
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsvH7_EF34
Chappelle's Show - The Time Haters - Great Misses - Uncensored
The Time Haters go back to the days of slavery and share an epithet popularized by George Jefferson.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iLsvH7_EF34/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-May-19 11:43 PM] Honahue#0656
just posting this cause it's funny no other reason


[16-May-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7a47ddc761dc4b72a017b0836da3a87b

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Alabama governor signs near-total abortion ban into law
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama's Republican governor signed the most stringent abortion legislation in the nation Wednesday, making performing an abortion a felony in nearly all cases. "To...
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[16-May-19 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh come on


[16-May-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it alabama's bill or goergia;s bill that made miscarriages a capital offense?


[16-May-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, here's the thing about this law, right? It makes an exception for when the woman's health is at "serious risk." That could be seen as a silver lining until you think about this - who judges if her health is at risk? It becomes a choice between a malpractice suit or life in prison for the doctor


[16-May-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and as far as licensed, practicing doctors go, there are apparently a count-'em-on-your-fingers number in the state, and they're all in one place, so pro-lifers are going to be watching them like hawks for the slightest indication that they performed an abortion when it wasn't medically necessary as defined by this law


[16-May-19 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course I realize this law exists primarily to take a stab at Roe v. Wade, but it is still a law with consequences for people and there are plenty who want to enforce it


[16-May-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/bsyjy18vkdy21.jpg

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[16-May-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Autistic black man: exists
Cops: it's free real estate


[16-May-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isn;t this the guy who's caregiver got killed by cops?


[16-May-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3c2ad5c54ea94e8e92e7382a77befa7b

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Illinois governor promises fixes to child welfare agency
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Illinois's child welfare agency has reviewed 1,100 of its ongoing abuse and neglect cases as part of a stepped-up effort to right a department that's facing criticism for...
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[16-May-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pritzker is a character for sure.


[16-May-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another guy with more ego than sense.


[16-May-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He only had to beat the most unpopular governor in the US


[16-May-19 01:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK put a time cap on prosecuting soldiers for their crimes committed over seas and DUP complaining about how it does not apply to Northern Ireland and the soldier that admitted to shooting a kid in the back.


[16-May-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f5c9fb9cdbe5447a80b3c7ff1cc66bbb

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Louisiana 'heartbeat' abortion ban nearing final passage
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — A proposal to ban abortions in Louisiana as early as the sixth week of pregnancy continued to speed through the state legislature Wednesday, the same day Alabama's governor...
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[16-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is all a scheme to get it to SCOTUS


[16-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not sure Kavanaugh would be the fifth vote tho


[16-May-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 he pisses off Trump and upholds Roe v Wade


[16-May-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And everyone's bamboozled.


[16-May-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then sometime later it's revealed he was actually drunk on that day.


[16-May-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
imagine trump declaring a state of emergency because roe vs wade is upheld


[16-May-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
in order to start arresting doctors en masse


[16-May-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So many women are owed 9 months child support/maternity leave


[16-May-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they'll never get it


[16-May-19 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[16-May-19 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
just audio, noting to watch.


[16-May-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/26/blog-posting/did-abraham-lincoln-plan-send-ex-slaves-central-am/

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Did Abraham Lincoln plan to send ex-slaves to Central America afte...
The debate over whether states should allow the Confederate battle flag in close proximity to their state capitol -- reignited by the June 17 killing of nine African-American worshippers in a historic church in South Carolina -- has intensified discussion of slavery and the C...
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[16-May-19 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656

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[16-May-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
apparently some confederacy revisionists were saying that lincoln was supportive of forcefully shipping ex-slaves to liberia


[16-May-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
because he supported them wanting to move voluntarily


[16-May-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
>Monrovia, Liberia, was founded in the 1820s by former American slaves, and by the early 1850s, Lincoln and like-minded politicians were supportive of that approach. But by the mid 1850s, the anti-slavery movement shifted toward stopping the spread of slavery to newly admitted states in the Great Plains and the West.


[16-May-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
>This is incorrect on many levels. Even when he was arguing for voluntary colonization during his first two years as president, Lincoln did not envision forced deportations of ex-slaves. Moreover, historians agree that the idea of large-scale, voluntary colonization was effectively dead by the time the Emancipation Proclamation was issued on Jan. 1, 1863 -- more than two years before Lincoln’s assassination.


[16-May-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/senators-demand-answers-trump-administration-iran-threat-n1005951

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/senators-demand-answers-trump-administration-iran-threat-n1005951
Senators demand answers from Trump administration on Iran threat
Democrats accuse the Trump administration of taking reckless steps that could lead to war with Iran.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_20/2858251/190515-bob-menendez-cs-1100a_a55ffe78e62319e692330ff37e7ff8a9.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[16-May-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/world/americas/flights-venezuela-suspended.html

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By ANATOLY KURMANAEV
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/world/americas/flights-venezuela-suspended.html
U.S. Suspends Passenger and Cargo Flights to Venezuela
The Department of Homeland Security said the country’s instability created conditions that “threaten the safety and security of passengers, aircraft, and crew.”
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[16-May-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
>The decision will be a heavy blow for millions of Venezuelans who rely on donations or remittances from relatives abroad to survive, as the country’s crumbling economy has destroyed most of its industry and agriculture and slashed government imports. Many have relied on airline courier services from Miami to obtain scarce medication, spare parts and food.


[16-May-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
wow, that's seriously fucked up


[16-May-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if they could use online banking to get around that


[16-May-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
the fuck


[16-May-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc

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surreal entertainment
https://youtu.be/JV_jL01IUfc
Ben Shapiro in a nutshell
Ben Shapiro is a political figure and also a very epic person. This video contains one of his most viral moments. Ben Shapiro vs a liberal feminist. --------...
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[16-May-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/5pJrn9r.jpg

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Total Insanity
https://i.imgur.com/5pJrn9r.jpg


[16-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/ZHDf9Hc/comment/1648639567>


[16-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
hahaha holy shit


[16-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
>Y'all Qaeda


[16-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
>y'all queda enforcing shar-yeeha law


[16-May-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
:appul:


[16-May-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Confederacy is one of the few black/white scenarios


[16-May-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was started by traitors who wanted to own other people


[16-May-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They are in their entirety indefensible.


[16-May-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
even though my mom agrees fully with abortion, she thinks it should be "up to the states" to enforce and that roe vs wade has no basis because the constitution doesn't explicitly say "bodily autonomy" in it, even though every dumbass knows that bodily autonomy is one of the most basic forms of freedom


[16-May-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
even though we fucking tried that back when abortion procedures first popped up (it didn't work)


[16-May-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
they were very slowly being legalized on the state level up until roe vs wade made it legal nationwide, but women were dying right at that moment, it was taking way too long


[16-May-19 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
you either got life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness or property if you're gonna go back to Locke I think life and liberty covers bodily autonomy


[16-May-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I get the feeling that she'd argue that "life" applies to zygotes and fetuses too


[16-May-19 07:22 AM] Honahue#0656
if you make the case that body autonomy isn't covered you've made the case that slavery is fine too


[16-May-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
even though she personally thinks that abortion should be legal


[16-May-19 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
which I guess concidering the Founding Fathers were okay enough with slavery


[16-May-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
she thinks that they were uncomfortable with it and didn't actually want to continue it, but had to in order to keep the southern states


[16-May-19 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
well a lot of southern girls are gonna die or get hurt


[16-May-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
I mean at the founding of the US


[16-May-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
she doesn't seem to be capable of imagining a world in which not all 13 colonies joined the US


[16-May-19 07:24 AM] Honahue#0656
cause it never stops abortions it just switches to illegal and questionably effective and unsafe methods


[16-May-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
I told her that, and she doesn't get it


[16-May-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
she seems to think that the new york assembly gave a standing ovation to the passing of their bill because it said "kill babies" in it


[16-May-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
she's watched a lot of movies/documentaries/etc on the topic


[16-May-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
which is why she thinks abortions should be legal


[16-May-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
but she thinks the states should be trusted to do it


[16-May-19 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
no, it's a weird mentality, sex usually carries the possibility of a baby in a healthy couple, if you want to have sex you have to have the ability to take care of the potential result no matter what. It's a based on a fallacy though cause say neolithic people would first work together as a community to raise children anyway and second without rent or bills their efforts all went to the survival of the tribe anyway.


[16-May-19 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
modern society atomizes couples from a community so they have to be able to fund everything themselves and most of their labor is siphoned off by their bosses anyway


[16-May-19 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
plus needing both people working means a need for daycare which is expensive


[16-May-19 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
though in some cases I have know families where one parent does quit their job because the yearly cost of daycare is essentially the same as their yearly income


[16-May-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like daycares should be publicly funded like school is


[16-May-19 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
there's been a few politicians that have had that in their platform but it gets buried under other stuff like Medicare for all


[16-May-19 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
plus American's just aren't breeding so there's less demand for it


[16-May-19 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[16-May-19 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cursed image


[16-May-19 12:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18626785/white-house-trump-censorsip-tool-twitter-instagram-facebook-conservative-bias-social-media

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18626785/white-house-trump-censorsip-tool-twitter-instagram-facebook-conservative-bias-social-media
White House launches tool to report censorship on Facebook, YouTub...
‘If you suspect political bias caused such an action to be taken against you, share your story with President Trump’
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[16-May-19 01:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gotta flood it with examples of leftists being censored lol


[16-May-19 01:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or the manuscript of the Israel defamation bills


[16-May-19 01:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```A later question asks the user what year the Declaration of Independence was signed “just to confirm you aren’t a robot.” This is an unorthodox anti-scripting technique, and a generally ineffective one, given the relative simplicity of automatically entering a number.```


[16-May-19 01:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Are you 18? :c"


[16-May-19 01:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Tick a box to confirm if you are 18"


[16-May-19 01:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though,  I've more complex ones, but rather to fend off non-locals and not experts, asking either techical questions related to specifically local events.


[16-May-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6b14c5a520ab42728ab82e43d69e7743

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New Trump immigration plan would overhaul green card system
WASHINGTON (AP) — After years of setbacks and stalemates, President Donald Trump will lay out yet another immigration plan as he tries to convince the American public and lawmakers that the...
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[16-May-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The latest effort, spearheaded by Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, focuses on beefing up border security and rethinking the green card system so that it would favor people with high-level skills, degrees and job offers instead of relatives of those already in the country.

A shift to a more merit-based system prioritizing high-skilled workers would mark a dramatic departure from the nation’s largely family-based approach, which officials said gives roughly 66% of green cards to those with family ties and only 12% based on skills.


[16-May-19 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Эᴚ|∫ yeah, but the problem with this is, anyone in the damn world can know when the US declaration of independence was issued


[16-May-19 02:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't even have to access wikipedia for it, google automatically answers it by typing the correct words into the search bar


[16-May-19 02:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
4/7/1776 ❌ 
7/4/1776 ✅


[16-May-19 02:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A good catch


[16-May-19 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yeah, it is, but i don't think it'll be too much more effective than just the year


[16-May-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-man-sues-city-to-stop-foreclosure-of-his-home-because-grass-is-too-tall_2924019.html

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-man-sues-city-to-stop-foreclosure-of-his-home-because-grass-is-too-tall_2924019.html
Florida Man Sues City to Stop Foreclosure of His Home Because Gras...
The condition of a West Florida man's garden has sparked a legal battle with authorities that could result him losing his home.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2019/05/15/Jim-Ficken-Dunedin-resident-1200x636.jpg


[16-May-19 03:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why don't they just ban grass then 🙄


[16-May-19 03:30 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Might as well ban trees too while they're at it 🙄🙄


[16-May-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lawn care laws get really fucking dumb in america


[16-May-19 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for years they've also been a way to impose fines on unsuspecting people with little effort as a way to raise state funding


[16-May-19 04:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Talk about ridiculous gated village rules.


[16-May-19 04:35 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/bill-de-blasio-2020-presidential-announcement/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/bill-de-blasio-2020-presidential-announcement/index.html
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announces 2020 presidential run
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio entered the 2020 Democratic presidential primary Thursday morning, casting himself as the most accomplished progressive pick in a field of 23 candidates vying for a chance to challenge President Donald Trump next year.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181024131731-bill-de-blasio-super-tease.jpg


[16-May-19 04:35 PM] Litrojia#0612
Why tho


[16-May-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because why not add another person onto this growing disaster pile


[16-May-19 04:48 PM] Litrojia#0612
the 2020 primaries are the smash ultimate of democrat politicians


[16-May-19 04:48 PM] Litrojia#0612
everyone's here


[16-May-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 2020 election is going to be the party opposite of the 2016 election but with more dumpster fire and mostly the same issues on the democratic side


[16-May-19 05:16 PM] Honahue#0656
I should announce.my candidacy but I'm not old enough


[16-May-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not old enough either and i wouldn;t want the job


[16-May-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/16/ted-cruz-says-space-force-needed-stop-space-pirates-twitter-erupts/3690749002/

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Ted Cruz says Space Force needed to stop space pirates, Twitter erupts
"Pirates threaten the open seas, and the same is possible in space," Cruz said. He added that "the world's first trillionaire will be made in space."
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[16-May-19 06:08 PM] Litrojia#0612
If there are ever space pirates, fucking sign me up


[16-May-19 06:09 PM] Litrojia#0612
it's physically impossible to do piracy in space in a similar way to irl high seas pirates tho


[16-May-19 06:17 PM] RYDE#8862
Speaking of space pirates, I should join Ridley


[16-May-19 06:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Space pirates?


[16-May-19 06:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I heard of space forces, but this, naaaah.


[16-May-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a smokescreen


[16-May-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Space Force is actually to fight China and their potential to destroy all our satellites in the event of war.


[16-May-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying something ridiculous like pirates helps avoid conservatives who'd get mad about talking about war with China.


[16-May-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We need the Fallout universe to be made real I guess


[16-May-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what would it be really


[16-May-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
China EMPs the West coast, the US EMPs Shanghai or something


[16-May-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The war would be over in hours


[16-May-19 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't hav the tech to reliably stop nukes, Its


[16-May-19 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is solely about shooting down each other's satellites right now


[16-May-19 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's nothing else you can do in space warfare without serious technological advances.


[16-May-19 07:32 PM] Honahue#0656
what? shooting down a satellite and shooting down a nuke is very nearly the same thing, the whole reason Russia keeps getting mad at us is because the US keeps installing systems designed to shoot down their nukes


[16-May-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not at all


[16-May-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
satellites are on very, very predictable orbits which they actively try not to deviate from using very slow station-keeping thrust


[16-May-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
nukes go suborbital on previously-unknown trajectories and use very fast thrust to stay unpredictable


[16-May-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting down a satellite is ridiculously easy, shooting down a nuke is ridiculously hard.


[16-May-19 07:37 PM] Honahue#0656
bruh


[16-May-19 07:37 PM] Honahue#0656
an F-15 shot down a meteor


[16-May-19 07:37 PM] Honahue#0656
and the US has been developing a system to shoot nukes down since at least the 60's


[16-May-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
F-15s can't go suborbital


[16-May-19 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
nukes are on ballistic rockets they follow ballistic trajectories


[16-May-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can turn on a dime in the air, but the problem with nukes is you hav VERY little time once they get down to flying altitudes


[16-May-19 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
the whole reason for chaff and MIRVs is to confuse a missle defense system


[16-May-19 07:39 PM] Honahue#0656
that's so very wrong I dunno what movies you got that from


[16-May-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're never going to hit a nuke with a jet


[16-May-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The jet can't go high enuff to hav the time to hit the nuke.


[16-May-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter how fast it can turn around, it's going to be in the wrong location.


[16-May-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US has anti-nuke defenses, and they regularly fail tests.


[16-May-19 07:40 PM] Honahue#0656
I used the F-15 cause it's a fun story but there's plenty of early warning and tracking radar and AA rockets that can reach that high


[16-May-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The simple fact of the matter is that the rather basic measures put in place to make nukes slip by are extremely effective


[16-May-19 07:41 PM] Honahue#0656
but the whole idea of MIRV's isn't, they're agile and can avoid rockets it's you have to be lucky 100% of the time we only need to be lucky once


[16-May-19 07:43 PM] Honahue#0656
if anyone's going to nuke us we know what areas are the most likely targets and there's only so many suborbital trajectories you can to get to them


[16-May-19 07:43 PM] Honahue#0656
it's probably a big number but it's a finite and calculable one


[16-May-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're never going to hav the advance warning to rely on that


[16-May-19 07:44 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah you are, rockets are big explosions and produce a lot of noise, the exhaust from a rocket engine shows up on radar


[16-May-19 07:45 PM] Honahue#0656
the US has 6 huge phased array radar system, 3 on each coast called PAVEPAWS meant to do that kind of tracking


[16-May-19 07:48 PM] Honahue#0656
I agree that it's more of a net than a wall but nukes aren't ballerinas, they've become like a shotgun you get into space


[16-May-19 07:49 PM] Honahue#0656
of course if you launch a Starfish Prime over the East and West coasts, even with EMP hardened areas the population is going to be without power for a long time and shits going to suck


[16-May-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
being able to see a nuke coming is completely different from being able to shoot it out of the sky


[16-May-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
it's not the detection that regularly fails, it's the interception


[16-May-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know a nuke is coming, but you only hav an estimate for where it'll hit, and it can dodge a bit, and it can put out decoys


[16-May-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you hav 20 minutes


[16-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw @Itsthinking apparently one of Tyrion's bits of dialog in Game of Thrones (while it was still good) is a serious dig at Orson Scott Card


[16-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He talks about a retarded cousin that would smash beetles for the sake of smashing beetles


[16-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
named Orson


[16-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
that was literally the point of the atari missile command game, you can see all the nukes coming, you just can't shoot them all down


[16-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah if you fire all the anti-nuke defenses at, say, 5 nukes, you'll probably stop them all.


[16-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
6 nukes, however...


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
I actually mentioned that exact point


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
and the more nukes that get through, the less you can deal with later


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If 100 nukes are coming, we're fukked.


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
Y'all just don't read or something


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
1 nuke takes a lot of defenses to reliably stop.


[16-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
the original point is that shooting down a satellite is much easier than shooting down a nuke


[16-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
much, much, much, much, much, much easier


[16-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
A nuke in flight is the hardest thing to shoot down


[16-May-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie lel


[16-May-19 08:10 PM] Honahue#0656
Is that like an engineer thing? I have a friend who's an areospace engineer and he tends to finish people's sentences before they finish them


[16-May-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The best part is the dialog is meant to portray Tyrion and Jaime as sane and caring by comparison. Both of them are pretty much ruthless assholes when it comes down to it, but they both prevent major civilian genocide and aren't fond of blindly smashing living creatures. Orson really hated Game of Thrones as well.


[16-May-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, who finished whose sentence? I was done lol


[16-May-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, you mentioned that it's more of a net than a wall, but the net is incredibly porous, especially to large-scale attacks


[16-May-19 08:36 PM] Honahue#0656
I mentioned that the concept behind MIRV's isn't to have an agile missile that jukes missile defense it's the "you have to get lucky 100% of the time I only need to get lucky once"


[16-May-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
so I don't understand where the whole "shooting satellites and shooting nukes down is pretty much the same thing" stuff came from then


[16-May-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
because that was the original point


[16-May-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/politics/donald-trump-iran-john-bolton-mike-pompeo/index.html

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Trump's irritation with top aides grows over Iran strategy
President Donald Trump has become irritated at an emerging impression his hawkish national security advisers are marching him closer to war with Iran despite his isolationist tendencies, according to people familiar with the matter.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180712113039-02-nato-0712-trump-presser-super-tease.jpg


[16-May-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
so supposedly it isn't actually trump who wants to go to war with iran


[16-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
it's the retarded yes-men he surrounded himself with trying to push for it


[16-May-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/16/723922182/missouri-senate-passes-bill-that-would-ban-abortions-after-8-weeks

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https://www.npr.org/2019/05/16/723922182/missouri-senate-passes-bill-that-would-ban-abortions-after-8-weeks
Missouri Senate Passes Bill That Would Ban Abortions After 8 Weeks
It's the latest in a series of sweeping abortion restrictions passed by Republican-controlled state legislatures that appear aimed at pushing abortion challenges to the Supreme Court.
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[16-May-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel like these super strict ones might backfire.


[16-May-19 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/business/walmart-earnings-stock-tariffs-trump-china/index.html

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Walmart says it will raise prices because of tariffs
Walmart, America's largest retailer, said Thursday it will raise prices on some products as a result of the Trump administration's tariffs on Chinese goods.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190220150647-walmart-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[16-May-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and here we go


[16-May-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://news.sky.com/story/amp/politician-puts-ad-on-pornhub-and-says-you-have-to-be-where-your-voters-are-11720488

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Politician puts ad on Pornhub and says 'you have to be where your ...
Danish shot-putter-turned-politician Joachim B Olsen says: "There is no limit to how far I will go for the nation."
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[16-May-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-administration-s-iran-threat-claim-disputed-foreign-officials-n1006291

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Trump administration Iran threat claims disputed by foreign officials
"There's been no increased threat from Iranian backed forces in Iraq and Syria," British Maj. Gen. Chris Ghika said.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_20/2859326/190516-gen-ghika-mc-1022_41adb4f8220c6d24ccca0dbc6e976728.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[16-May-19 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The super-strict anti-abortion laws will backfire once people who want to see the world burn to a fucking crisp go on a 4chan-esque crusade to impregnate as many *children* as possible


[16-May-19 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And if you need a reminder, https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/575738867060178954


[16-May-19 10:50 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't think people are going to go raping children to prove how terrible the laws are


[16-May-19 10:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
It's only a matter of time before someone with below-zero standards surfaces from that cesspool.


[16-May-19 10:55 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah but 4chan scum don't want the law to be proven bad


[16-May-19 10:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Perhaps; I'm just being severely pessimistic about this.


[16-May-19 10:59 PM] Honahue#0656
It is a shitty law and hopefully it fails to over turn Row v Wade and a lot of women are going to suffer cause of this stupidity


[16-May-19 11:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Sadly. Women should not have to suffer because of ass-backwards laws.


[16-May-19 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm kinda surprised cause the governor is a woman but she's got evengalical brain worms or something


[16-May-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-May-19 11:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[16-May-19 11:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*checks camera roll*
Overthrowing capitalism one work schedule at a time hashtag rise up gamers


[16-May-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-frustrated-by-advisers-is-not-convinced-the-time-is-right-to-attack-iran/2019/05/15/bbf5835e-1fbf-4035-a744-12799213e824_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5b79413528d0


[16-May-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
reposting now with washpost


[16-May-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
>when it's trump who is reasonable one


[16-May-19 11:20 PM] ononim#8141
and reminder what entire us government is staffed with imperealistic hawk scum


[16-May-19 11:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Everybody trying to get rid of Trump https://apple.news/A_fEwhUE7TZeWGP4ddzxe8w

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Why so many Democrats are running for president — Vox
The epidemic of random white men running for president, explained.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQV9mRXdoVUU3VFplV0dQNGRkenhlOHcAMA


[16-May-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think most of them have absolutely no intent to be president and are running for a VP position or to even be a part of the new administration.


[16-May-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like they hope to be the Secretary of Education or some shit. Campaigning they believe puts them on the hot list easier than simply existing.


[16-May-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
because experience and expertise doesn't mean anything anymore


[16-May-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
That said some of these people should just go home and run for senate and if they can force out Republicans then to do so


[16-May-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
only name recognition


[16-May-19 11:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816

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[16-May-19 11:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This is my 10th photo.


[16-May-19 11:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What does it mean?


[16-May-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Capitalism is replaced with... Coffeeism


[16-May-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone reserves the right to a cup of coffee


[16-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
10th photo is a photo from last year in chemistry lab with data from experiments with different acids


[16-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
(I don't use my phone much at all)


[16-May-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
specifically hydrochloric acid, nitric acid, sulfuric acid, acetic acid, and boric acid


[16-May-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-May-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
this is the 10th image in my images folder on my desktop


[16-May-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
basically, you make a one-time payment on danbooru to buy access to images tagged loli/shota (they're the only "censored tags" on danbooru)


[16-May-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
on top of a few other bonuses, like being able to search more tags


[16-May-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
and a higher favorite limit, being able to search further back, being able to change your name, etc


[16-May-19 11:56 PM] ononim#8141
>fave limit


[16-May-19 11:56 PM] ononim#8141
the absolute state of weebdom


[16-May-19 11:57 PM] ononim#8141
what the fuck is tag limit and why it is so low


[16-May-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
I think it has to do with how much processing power is needed to fulfill tag searches


[16-May-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] can probably explain it better


[16-May-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
they do it in some really dumb way that makes it take exponentially more processing to do than what is necessary, and it only gets harder the more tags you search at once


[16-May-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
so instead of doing tag searches in a more sane way, they just limit the number of tags you can search instead


[17-May-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I guess that means nothing changes because danbooru is capitalism?


[17-May-19 12:01 AM] ononim#8141
I https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319599016662925312/578703187322732566/LITERALLY_DYING.jpg

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[17-May-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ye


[17-May-19 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Congratz, Crow. You fucked us up


[17-May-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
except pedophilia becomes legal if you spend extra money (oh wait, that's how it already is)


[17-May-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
sex trafficking is only available to the rich and powerful


[17-May-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
what about the acid tho


[17-May-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[17-May-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some random pupper screenshot I had


[17-May-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kind of works

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[17-May-19 12:04 AM] ononim#8141

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[17-May-19 12:05 AM] ononim#8141
Marxism-Leninism-Pupperism confirmed

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[17-May-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No longer shall the bourgeoisie boop our noses with impunity


[17-May-19 12:18 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Bad news, everyone
https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/koalas-are-now-functionally-extinct-experts-say/amp/

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Koalas are now ‘functionally extinct,’ experts say
They are in danger of going the way of the dodo. Koala bears have been declared “functionally extinct,” the Australian Koala Foundation reports. The fluffy marsupial is down to just 80,…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/koalas.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1

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[17-May-19 12:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🦀 Koalas Are Dead 🦀


[17-May-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow danbooru loads searches by doing a table scan


[17-May-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
This is basically just "does this row match? no, okay, does this one? no, okay, does this one? ..."


[17-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
but whyyyyy


[17-May-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
etc. until you have the resultset


[17-May-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
that's like the slowest way to do anything


[17-May-19 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
also, this doesn't need to be sorted explicitly, since postgresql can load the rows in descending created order using an index


[17-May-19 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
and then if it finds any that match and returns them in order, no further sorting is required


[17-May-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
derpibooru's search is much smarter than this


[17-May-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of searching by _image_


[17-May-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1129139084767764480


[17-May-19 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
elasticsearch stores precomputed lists of 1s and 0s for each _tag_


[17-May-19 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
these 1s and 0s correspond to the image ids that match


[17-May-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/flynn-told-mueller-people-tied-trump-congress-tried-obstruct-probe-n1006666

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Flynn told Mueller people tied to Trump and Congress tried to obst...
The communications could have affected "his willingness to cooperate," special counsel Robert Mueller wrote in court filings.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_20/2691091/181220-michael-flynn-al-1330_ec76300c3fe99006bc0dbeb060f84ba3.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[17-May-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
so is there any upside at all to doing it the way that danbooru does?


[17-May-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
because if there is, I can't imagine it


[17-May-19 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
then, to search, all that's necessary is to intersect the lists using boolean operations. this can be made super fast by using index compression for low-frequency terms, but it's already quite fast


[17-May-19 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
because processors love boolean operations


[17-May-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
there are upsides: you don't have to maintain two datastores


[17-May-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
you only have to have one query language


[17-May-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
you can modify the index on the fly


[17-May-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, but to the point of limiting people to 2/6/12 tags in a single search? it feels like they're just making massive sacrifices to usability


[17-May-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
elasticsearch didn't exist when danbooru was originally written


[17-May-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
also because the code was written by morons and they have not a fucking clue what they are doing there


[17-May-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how much money they even make


[17-May-19 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mohusain313/status/1005141921923260422

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Mohammed Husain J. (@mohusain313)
https://twitter.com/mohusain313/status/1005141921923260422
Translated to English:
@AvichayAdraee, head of the Arab media division of the IDF Spokesperson's Unit releases a 4 minute video filled with anti-Shi’a and anti-Iran rhetoric. He uses quotes from Ibn Taymiya and Ibn Abdul Wahhab to warn Sunni Arabs of Shi’as and Iran. 
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Twitter


[17-May-19 01:12 AM] ononim#8141
>IDF releases ISIS-tier videon in Arabic about how the Shiites and Iran is the true enemy


[17-May-19 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/1129158920499605504

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Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea)
https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/1129158920499605504
** Today, Chelsea was not only put back in jail, but Judge Anthony Trenga ordered her to be fined $500 every day she is in custody after 30 days and $1,000 every day she is in custody after 60 days. This is unprecedented. https://t.co/3AU6ni0ZWz
Twitter


[17-May-19 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim >Israel using wahhabist quotes


[17-May-19 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck is this timeline


[17-May-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Why is manning being jailed


[17-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
because they keep subpoenaing her and she keeps refusing to testify


[17-May-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Y1Cj2Y3.jpg

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[17-May-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] They want dirt on Wikileaks she likely doesn't even hav and since she's technically already served her time, she's effectively denied the 5th


[17-May-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I noticed that the fifth doesn't apply in this case since the subpoena was by decree of grand jury


[17-May-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that seems like another poor move by the framers


[17-May-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[17-May-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I think the fifth also doesn't apply to civil cases right?


[17-May-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
so you can be compelled under threat of contempt to provide information


[17-May-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it still applies


[17-May-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the issue is that once *you* personally are off the hook


[17-May-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't refuse to provide info, even if it's your own communications.


[17-May-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right is you can't be forced to provide info that *could* incriminate you.


[17-May-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once you've lost threat of prosecution, you can't withhold your info.


[17-May-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was at one point exploited via pardons given to people expected to hav info


[17-May-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
which led to the supreme court having to rule that pardons hav to be accepted by the pardoned party.


[17-May-19 06:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay hypothetical scenario. One of the dem candidates with traction drops out of the race to become another candidate's running mate for VP. What's the dream team?


[17-May-19 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie and Warren would be good imo


[17-May-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but who's who here?


[17-May-19 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Preferred Bernie as president


[17-May-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
basically, it's bernie > warren > buttigieg for president (even buttigieg is questionable)


[17-May-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
everything else has proven to be a nonstarter in one way or another


[17-May-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
bernie/warren would be the best case scenario


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I noticed a conspicuous lack of Biden (despite him being the most popular Dem candidate rn) and I wanna know why


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He really should not be in the running


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
because he's a proven liar trying to run off of obama's popularity and memes basically


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
and he's creepy as fuck


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's the DNC darling and that's all he's got going for him. He's definitely not the candidate we want immediately post-Trump


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
his policies are "say whatever needs to be said to get votes"


[17-May-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I do remember the harassment stuff y'all talked about


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
which is sadly a lot of politicians


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
oh btw, de blasio is running for president now


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
idk enough about him to say whether I want him as one or not, but he was not supportive at all of the local politicians that pushed out amazon, so that's a pretty bad mark against him


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Unless he shows he's literally God, he's not going far


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for that matter, de blasio's in the running and has basically copied Alexandria's Green New Deal and wrote his name on it and now it's supposed to be good


[17-May-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
(he's the mayor of NYC)


[17-May-19 06:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At this point candidate announcements will be met with "Ugh, another one??"


[17-May-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
CNN apparently devoted more time to biden than every other candidate combined, so you know who they want as president


[17-May-19 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
in the first week of biden announcing his candidacy


[17-May-19 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly it's buttigieg who I really want to see on the iron throne


[17-May-19 06:56 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-May-19 06:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I really like Buttigieg I'm not gonna lie


[17-May-19 06:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although I'm not sure how he'll fare in office


[17-May-19 06:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although he's got really nice credentials


[17-May-19 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as that goes he's probably the best fit, being one of the few coming from an executive position in the current lineup


[17-May-19 06:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That and he seems to be able to handle a lot of shit thrown his way


[17-May-19 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and having a track record of addressing the things in south bend that are directly applicable to the overall problems facing the US


[17-May-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
he got a shitload of anonymous funding a few days after he announced his candidacy, and it's likely to have come from corporate donors


[17-May-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
like $1.1 million in one go


[17-May-19 06:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah that bit is a little non-ideal


[17-May-19 06:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What candidates *aren't* relying on corporate donors


[17-May-19 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He does seem a *little* too good to be true if I'm honest but I'll take that over Russian involvement any day


[17-May-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
bernie


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's a point that's important but I never really focused on


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Aaaaanyone else?


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I def remember some other candidates doing the same


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Warren and Bernie I like, but I'd like them a lot more if they kept their strength in congress


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
either one as VP would be great


[17-May-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure both of their seats are easily winnable by democrats


[17-May-19 07:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, true, but Warren is one of the best Democratic voices we've got right now on the hill


[17-May-19 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and unless someone with a similar level of backbone steps in, they'll get bullied by the GOP like almost everyone else


[17-May-19 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even Pelosi looks cowardly these days


[17-May-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'd kinda like to see her as majority leader


[17-May-19 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh I'd kinda like majority leader to stop being powerful


[17-May-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
pelosi's always been super straight edge traditional, even as the republicans are literally tearing down the system around her


[17-May-19 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's appreciable - much as I appreciate it out of Mueller - but these are *very* trying times to play by the rules and wait it out


[17-May-19 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even though I recognize that as the million to one only way to win


[17-May-19 07:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How did we vote in so many spineless individuals to Congress


[17-May-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
in the same way that the oregan democrats are giving up gun control and vaccination exemption removal in return for a corporate tax to fund education to the republicans despite having a supermajority just because oregan has a retarded quorum tradition that prevents them from voting if republicans literally jump out the window to run away


[17-May-19 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They weren't spineless when we voted for them, necessarily


[17-May-19 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even McConnell's stance on presidential power has practically flipped now that the president's not a black dude


[17-May-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
the oregan senate even has a sergeant-at-arms which has the power to arrest senators and drag them back to the senate building to vote


[17-May-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
but the spineless democrats would rather negotiate instead of take a hardline stance


[17-May-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically centrism in a nutshell


[17-May-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
never take a hardline stance on anything, even as the far right is injecting literal fascism into the system


[17-May-19 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
remind me which one it was that said "this is how" and pulled two shotgun shells and Lenin's memoir out of a drawer


[17-May-19 07:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's not how I really view centrism but OK I guess


[17-May-19 07:08 AM] Mikey#7286
remove McConnell


[17-May-19 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and Graham while you're at it


[17-May-19 07:08 AM] Mikey#7286
also the next president better enact term limits


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump "promised" he'd enact congressional term limits


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] Mikey#7286
but that went nowhere


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump promised a lot of things


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly if you just give the majority leader's powers back to the VP you'd *have* those term limits at least on that one concentration of power


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And when he realized that shit was unviable, he just stopped talking about it


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why "radical centrism" is a meme lol


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] Mikey#7286
mcconnell probably swayed him


[17-May-19 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump is the one who wrote "gullible" on the ceiling and fell for it anyway


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What is "radical centrism"


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It only takes one stroke of his ego and he's yours


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It seems kinda oxymoronic


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the point yes


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
the closest real life example to "radical centrist" would be napoleon bonaparte


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
being extremely neutral to the point of having no opinion at all


[17-May-19 07:10 AM] Mikey#7286
even if Trump wins in 2020


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
no, radical centrism is centrism with an opinion (and weapons to enforce that opinion)


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i feel like the senate will become democrat majority


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't want to try and predict anything


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] Mikey#7286
that'd be fun to watch


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whatever happens in 2020 it will not be pretty


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't forsee Trump willingly leaving the presidency behind


[17-May-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tbh my best case scenario is Trump losing to Kasich in the Rep primary


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
radical centrism would be enforcing an overton window that stays in the center instead of pushing more to the left or right


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Kaisch?


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So then we get Kasich vs Bernie/Warren/Buttigieg


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
kasich's running against trump?


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
None of the 4 are too bad


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Nah


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Bill Weld is running against him


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just want him to run


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He's pretty outspoken against him too


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, I was gonna say, it'd be more likely Weld but also that'd never happen


[17-May-19 07:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Weld is libertarian afaik


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, which explains why he's crazy enough to try


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wish there were more like him right about now though


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's also why him winning against Trump isn't too great


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Either way corporations are getting a hearty BJ


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just to make things messier for Trump


[17-May-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's why I want Kasich to at least throw his hat in the ring


[17-May-19 07:14 AM] Mikey#7286
didn't he "teamup" with Cruz to take down Trump in 2016


[17-May-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't remember


[17-May-19 07:14 AM] Mikey#7286
iirc it was him, Cruz and Trump at the end of the RNC primary


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That I do recall


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And then both him and Cruz bailed in early May


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism

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Radical centrism (also called the radical center/centre or radical middle) is a political ideology that arose in the Western nations in the late 20th century. At first it was defined in a variety of ways, but at the beginning of the 21st century a number of political science ...


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
and Cruz did like a pact with him or someone


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
speaking of Cruz


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
it's so funny that Trump constantly berated and insulted him and his wife


[17-May-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
and now Cruz is sucking his dick


[17-May-19 07:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Cruz is as spineless as the DNC


[17-May-19 07:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Every time I talk politics I start getting depressed


[17-May-19 07:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
cruz looks like he's perpetually aware that his life is a joke and he's powerless to change it


[17-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We're not going to be able to do *shit* unless we can actually get our representatives to carry out the wishes of their constituents


[17-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And not some donating Fortune 500 corp


[17-May-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
US politics are purposefully set up to make the common person not matter


[17-May-19 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm beginning to feel like that ship has sailed without some dramatic overhaul on behalf of a bunch of people who have literally no personal interest in doing so


[17-May-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's a form of soft disenfranchisement


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well it makes sense seeing that the founding fathers feared the mob


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
let's all just form a coup


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(And had reason to, seeing how bad of a mess the AoC was)


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Common sense is not the same as critical thinking. One is based on reason, the other is literal mob mentality


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
and overthrow the government


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
if there's another recession, there'll likely start being civil unrest


[17-May-19 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
because 1/3rd of americans are a single missed paycheck away from homelessness


[17-May-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
also 48% of homeless people in the US have jobs


[17-May-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What sucks about the voter is that rational thinking is in the backseat compared to emotions


[17-May-19 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also the guys who are all about "form a militia" and so on are on Trump's side right now


[17-May-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And Dems don't realize this and just talk about their policies and numbers and stats


[17-May-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And they bore their voters


[17-May-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think alexandria ocasio-cortez is boring but she's also wildly unpopular amongst her "peers" in Washington


[17-May-19 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because she hasn't been bought and sold yet


[17-May-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Man I don't know what to think about Cortez


[17-May-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Just because I see her name


[17-May-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And I see the GOP trying to defame her


[17-May-19 07:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And... I don't see what she's actually done :shrugpony:


[17-May-19 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
she's resonating with the millenial generation like almost no one but buttigieg


[17-May-19 07:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What kinda stuff does she say


[17-May-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
look up her "say I'm the bad guy" speech


[17-May-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
she's anti-corruption and is the primary proponent of the green new deal


[17-May-19 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which...she dropped on the world rather uncompromisingly with some drastic deadlines and she rocks the boat a *lot*


[17-May-19 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you may also recall that when given the chance during Cohen's testimony, her questions were some of the most pointed and got the most useful answers


[17-May-19 07:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No wonder millennials love her


[17-May-19 07:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
She's showing how fucked everything is on the hill


[17-May-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the old guard cannot stand her


[17-May-19 07:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah because the fucked up situation benefits them


[17-May-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
fox news is incredibly obsessed with her


[17-May-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she was mentioned like 3400 times in a single 2 week period on fox news


[17-May-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/04/12/Six-weeks-of-Foxs-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-obsession-Totalitarian-ignorant-scary-and-wagin/223386

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Six weeks of Fox's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez obsession: "Totalitari...
Obsessed.
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[17-May-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, it was 6 weeks


[17-May-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
>In these 42 days, Fox News and Fox Business talked about AOC every single day, mentioning her at least 3,181 times


[17-May-19 07:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
someone go grab one of those memes about shapiro's obsession I can't be bothered


[17-May-19 08:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
AOC: Radical imagination


[17-May-19 08:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Regular Dems and every Republican: Tax credits for "innovation"


[17-May-19 08:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't forget, btw, that her twitter handle is being used by the right with much the same level of derision that "tRump" is in left-meming circles


[17-May-19 08:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ocasio-cortez might be more of a mouthful but eh


[17-May-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
they call her AOC to dehumanize her basically


[17-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
like she's just another faceless government agency to demonize


[17-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
but it's not really working because she's perky and energetic


[17-May-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
and not at all dour and misdirecting like stereotypical politicians


[17-May-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/middleeast/iran-specter-of-war-intl/index.html

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In Tehran, specter of war met with more defiance than fear
People in Tehran speak in hushed tones about what the coming days may bring. As geopolitical tensions crank up, talk of imminent conflict with the United States is widespread on the streets of Iran's capital.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180205151637-01-iranian-woman-file-super-tease.jpg


[17-May-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel like a war with iran would be disastrous for the US, even if the US did eventually win


[17-May-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
it'd basically just be a carrier decimating iran


[17-May-19 11:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
man I feel like this chinese trade war Is gonna get us bad


[17-May-19 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-plan-civics-test-legal-entrants-could-keep-out-n1006656

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Trump's plan for civics test for legal entrants could keep out hig...
“It could be a barrier to very productive immigrants becoming a part of American society,” one expert said.
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[17-May-19 12:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
@SweetDahlia It's honestly all just another moment in the pendulum that is US-China relations. At one moment the most valuable partner and the next the great villain, only for it to swing back out of pity or neccesity. China probably knows all they gotta do is wait it out.


[17-May-19 01:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Tru It has happened before just seeing prices go up on things always scare me


[17-May-19 01:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129341043156107264?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129341043156107264?s=21
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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[17-May-19 01:06 PM] illumnious#7938
How many times do you have to say that?


[17-May-19 01:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
He's not making it great either lmao


[17-May-19 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
his base thinks he is


[17-May-19 01:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
It's sad to :/


[17-May-19 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
it's kind of creepy in person tbh


[17-May-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Still can't believe he ended that one missle drill


[17-May-19 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
to see how many mental hoops members of his base are willing to jump through in order to justify his policies


[17-May-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Oh God right


[17-May-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Very creepy


[17-May-19 01:09 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
My brother supports him and he had a fight with mum one time


[17-May-19 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/17/taiwan-becomes-first-asian-county-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage

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Taiwan becomes first in Asia to legalise same-sex marriage
Supporters celebrate as legislation is passed giving gay couples right to marry
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[17-May-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6b14c5a520ab42728ab82e43d69e7743

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Trump plan would shift immigration focus to 'merit'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Unveiling a new immigration plan, President Donald Trump said he wanted to provide a sharp contrast with Democrats, and he did — aiming to upend decades of family-based...
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[17-May-19 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/intuit-ceo-in-internal-video-hiding-free-turbotax-was-in-best-interest-of-taxpayers

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Intuit CEO in Internal Video: Hiding Free TurboTax Was In “Best ...
The video obtained by ProPublica shows the CEO defending the company as committed to “integrity without compromise.”
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[17-May-19 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/Az9yi0r6fRzy9oajFOLd6Tw

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Elizabeth Warren just announced her abortion platform. It’s aggr...
It has little chance in Congress. But Warren is one of the few Democratic candidates with a clear reproductive rights plan.
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[17-May-19 03:45 PM] illumnious#7938
For example you bitch https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129382204990214144?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129382204990214144?s=21
The Fake News Media is hurting our Country with its fraudulent and highly inaccurate coverage of Iran. It is scattershot, poorly sourced (made up), and DANGEROUS. At least Iran doesn’t know what to think, which at this point may very well be a good thing!
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[17-May-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so is he for or against war with iran?


[17-May-19 03:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Heck if I know


[17-May-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is both super predictable and the most confusing man alive


[17-May-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fiucking hell


[17-May-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6670fd64705146bbb35c2373af791c14

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Trump delays imposing tariffs on auto imports and parts
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Friday delayed any decision to impose tariffs on car and auto-part imports, deciding against ratcheting up trade disputes or impacting ongoing talks...
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[17-May-19 03:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Don’t forget childish as well, by the looks of his twitter.


[17-May-19 03:53 PM] illumnious#7938

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[17-May-19 04:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump lives in a society


[17-May-19 05:30 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What's more of an embarassment though? Him being president, or him being voted in as president :ponythinking:


[17-May-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
If only that cover were real

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[17-May-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8100ceaf06c44dc2a85bea4c5daff04f

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Report: Ohio State leaders knew about team doctor's abuse
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — An Ohio State University team doctor who died years ago sexually abused at least 177 students over a period of decades so wantonly that students described his examinations as...
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[17-May-19 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
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[17-May-19 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
based and gnosticopilled


[17-May-19 08:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/05/17/men-are-afraid-to-mentor-women-after-metoo-and-it-hurts-us-all-study/

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Men are afraid to mentor women after #MeToo and it hurts us all: study
Men are scared of women now. LeanIn.org and SurveyMonkey’s new #MentorHer poll reveals Friday that 60% of male managers report feeling “too nervous” about being accused of harassm…
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[17-May-19 08:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>*“It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”*

No we're not ignoring you. We just don't want to be arrested for rape after asking how your day was.


[17-May-19 08:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/africa/sudan-protests-asequals-intl/index.html

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They tried to use rape to silence women protesters. It didn't work
Weeks into the protests that eventually toppled Sudan's dictator, the regime's top brass sent a chilling message to officers on the ground: "Break the girls, because if you break the girls, you break the men."
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[17-May-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Marukomuru you can talk to a woman without assaulting her or discriminating against her


[17-May-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a dude helped a woman fix her car, she later falsely accused him of sexual assault costing him everything he had


[17-May-19 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are false accusations going up all over the place against men who said hi, or helped a woman out. it;s kind of crazy right now

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[17-May-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444091-ocasio-cortez-confronts-ceo-for-nearly-2k-price-tag-on-drug-that-costs-8-in unrelated

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Ocasio-Cortez confronts CEO for nearly $2K price tag on HIV drug t...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) confronted a CEO Thursday for pricing a drug designed to reduce the risk of HIV transmission at $8 in Australia but over $1,500 in the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_051519gn2_lead.jpg


[17-May-19 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are fucking obsessed with her lel


[17-May-19 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the metoo movement on paper is great, the problem is that people seeking vigilante justice are using it to ruin people's lives without evidence

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[17-May-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All you have to do is deny deny deny like the GOP does


[17-May-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People vehemently do not want to believe victims.


[17-May-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're sexually assaulted you won't be believed


[17-May-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're sexually assaulted and kill the guy trying to do it, that will give you sympathy


[17-May-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if some guy fixed your car and you falsely accuse him for no real reason?


[17-May-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I've heard of one prominent celebrity were it turned out that it wasn't true


[17-May-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well then you sue the shit out of her and win, and people will be on your side


[17-May-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You vastly underestimate how much people dislike people who bring these claims


[17-May-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It comes from a hatred of women


[17-May-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This piffle about false accusations is dumb and designed to redirect.


[17-May-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say you think all women lie and be honest.


[17-May-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(not you specifically, just in general)


[17-May-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem is the court of public opinion and the news's willingness to spread the information before they have it


[17-May-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the false accusations start online and work their way into destroying a life from the inside out


[17-May-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These issues will not stop until stories of "Woman fills man who attempted to assault her sexually with bullets" are as common as mass shootings


[17-May-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only then will it stop


[17-May-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the only thing that will stop rapists and the only way people will respect victims


[17-May-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a relative fear by the court system to punish false accusers for fear it will scare the real victims from coming forth


[17-May-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They shouldn't.


[17-May-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shouldnt punish fale accusers or they shouldnt fear?


[17-May-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shouldn't fear coming forth


[17-May-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're hated no matter what


[17-May-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again you do not understand


[17-May-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The false accusations do nothing


[17-May-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They are accused of shit no matter what


[17-May-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They are told they are wrong or trying to ruin someone's life


[17-May-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite the fact that that in 9/10 scenarios it is true


[17-May-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you let the 1/10 scenario prevent you from believing people


[17-May-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem isn't the false accusations, it's you looking for an excuse to never have to believe them


[17-May-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's all they are, and that's all that it is brought up for


[17-May-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's much more honest to just say "I never believe women."


[17-May-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pardon me, the line is "Don't believe women unless a minority does it, in which case believe them because it helps my political viewpoint"


[17-May-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben needs feet pics


[17-May-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Where are the feet pics, AOC


[17-May-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/6Yhsgv-vu8E

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[17-May-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] one day she'll make a mistake and accidentally show them


[17-May-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
nah


[17-May-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/17/trump-takes-war-on-abortion-worldwide-as-policy-cuts-off-funds

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Trump takes war on abortion worldwide as policy cuts off funds
Sexual health organisations warn women will die if they are forced to seek DIY abortions
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[17-May-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren's "extreme" position is the only way


[17-May-19 10:12 PM] Honahue#0656
Mandatory abortions


[17-May-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Federal funding for abortions should be allowed


[17-May-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't it?


[17-May-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is warren;s extreme position?


[17-May-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically that and enshrining the right in a statute


[17-May-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also saw some idiot anti choicer on the news say "you don't kill grandma when she's sick, same thing with an unborn baby"


[17-May-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And I'm like


[17-May-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of people do that


[17-May-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again I've also seen people who hate minorities so want there to be lots of abortion


[17-May-19 10:35 PM] Honahue#0656
Dying with dignity is something old people should get too


[17-May-19 10:35 PM] Honahue#0656
I think only one state in the US does assisted suicide and the Netherlands


[17-May-19 10:36 PM] Honahue#0656
Terry Pratchett and Leonard Nimoy were proponents


[17-May-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48309703

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US lifts steel and aluminium tariffs on Canada
Mexico is also expected to see levies lifted, paving the way for a new North American trade agreement.
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[17-May-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/rG_Ue3t17l0

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[YTP] Good Old P.U.
A nice fireside chat with Dennis and his Prager pals. Also, no, I'm not dead. OR AM I?????
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[17-May-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They actually paid Steven Harper to do a bit for them lmao


[17-May-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/MTRJ5R3XYpQ

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[YTP] Crazy Like a FOX
............ Music: "Heroin" by Lou Reed
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[17-May-19 11:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZfUzxZ2VU

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[17-May-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ye, I need to get to watching that.


[17-May-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
When I get home


[18-May-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/1e68712a-7825-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766


[18-May-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Judge orders public release of what Michael Flynn said in call to Russian ambassador


[18-May-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>A federal judge on Thursday ordered that prosecutors make public a transcript of a phone call that former national security adviser Michael Flynn tried hard to hide with a lie: his conversation with a Russian ambassador in late 2016.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan in Washington ordered the government also to provide a public transcript of a November 2017 voice mail involving Flynn. In that sensitive call, President Trump’s attorney left a message for Flynn’s attorney reminding him of the president’s fondness for Flynn at a time when Flynn was considering cooperating with federal investigators.

The transcripts, which the judge ordered be posted on a court website by May 31, would reveal conversations at the center of two major avenues of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. So far they have been disclosed to the public only in fragments in court filings and the Mueller report.


[18-May-19 01:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
That was a good Ollie


[18-May-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-May-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
wew


[18-May-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
those asses can eat shit


[18-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
!c rape as punishment


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[18-May-19 03:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
!c disproportionate retribution


[18-May-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[18-May-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
.p deus vult


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[18-May-19 03:34 AM] ononim#8141
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee latinians get out


[18-May-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec2a8082c8ea429cbfa66cf21682cedf

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Louisiana governor breaks with Democratic Party on abortion
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Nearly three decades ago, when Democratic Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards' wife was 20 weeks pregnant with their first child, a doctor discovered their daughter had spina...
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[18-May-19 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-cop-who-pulled-gun-man-picking-trash-outside-his-n1006851

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“You’re on my property with a gun in your hand, threatening to shoot me because I’m picking up trash,” the man said to the officer.
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[18-May-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The police officer who pulled a gun on a man picking up trash outside his own home in Boulder, Colorado, has resigned, city officials said Thursday.

Boulder officials conducted an investigation of the March incident of officer John Smyly confronting Zayd Atkinson outside his home.

Smyly attempted to detain Atkinson, a student at Naropa University in Boulder, asking him to prove he lived on the property.

Atkinson, who is black and said after the incident that he felt he was racially profiled, showed Smyly, who is white, his student identification card, but the officer said he needed needed further proof.


[18-May-19 04:52 AM] Mikey#7286
wow


[18-May-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eating while black and taking out the trash while black were added to the list


[18-May-19 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/34c5001987a6431485957028a15e7b30


[18-May-19 06:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/444335-trump-administration-rejects-house-dem-subpoena-for-trump-tax-returns

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Treasury Department rejects Dem subpoena for Trump tax returns
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Friday defied a subpoena from House Democrats for President Trump's tax returns, a move that's likely to trigger a court battle for the documents.
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[18-May-19 06:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444281-house-approves-anti-lgbt-discrimination-bill

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House approves anti-LGBT discrimination Equality Act
The House on Friday for the first time approved legislation banning anti-LGBT discrimination in a 236-173 vote.Every Democrat voted for the measure, as did eight Republicans.
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[18-May-19 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
>173 against


[18-May-19 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Are you serious


[18-May-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're well past the point of no return here


[18-May-19 06:38 AM] Mikey#7286
what


[18-May-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is what happens when racist santa tells you he's real


[18-May-19 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine not wanting to admit that you slept with male prostitutes at the RNC and voting against anti discrimination laws out of spite


[18-May-19 06:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm glad there were more votes against but if the house wasn't dem majority.....


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
er


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
sorry


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
for


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
not against


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
speaking of 8 republicans breaking ranks, I'd *really* love for that to happen in the Senate because then we might actually be able to do the right thing about impeachment


[18-May-19 06:40 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[18-May-19 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
atm there's a catch-22 of epic proportions and maddening as it may be, Pelosi's got the right play given the current circumstances


[18-May-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
"Opponents argued the bill “is anything but equalizing,” in the words of Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.).

“In fact, this bill legalizes discrimination — government imposed top-down discrimination against those with time-honored views of marriage and gender,” she said in remarks on the floor ahead of the vote."


[18-May-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
"government imposed top-down discrimination against those with time-honored views of marriage and gender"


[18-May-19 06:42 AM] Mikey#7286
oh boo hoo


[18-May-19 06:43 AM] Mikey#7286
doesn't it have to go to the senate now?


[18-May-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes this is called "caring about the other two unalienable rights besides life"


[18-May-19 06:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/latino/444370-florida-mayor-offers-solution-to-housing-detained-migrants-bring-them-to-the-trump

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The mayor of a Florida city reportedly bein
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[18-May-19 06:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The mayor of a Florida city reportedly being eyed by the Trump administration to potentially house hundreds of migrants is suggesting one possible solution: sending migrants to Trump hotels.
 
Broward County Mayor Mark Bogen (D) floated the idea on Friday as officials in Broward and Palm Beach counties push back on the Trump administration's plans for detained migrants.
 
"Bring them to the Trump hotels and ask the president to open his heart and home as well," Bogen said, according to multiple reports.
 
Palm Beach County Mayor Mack Bernard (D) also push back on the plans Friday, telling CNN, "The president wants to send his problems to Palm Beach County. And that's not fair."


[18-May-19 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
beautiful


[18-May-19 10:01 AM] Eri#3666
May I ask what makes Jordan Peterson so controversial?


[18-May-19 10:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Intellectual dishonesty. It's blatantly obvious that Peterson either isn't being honest, or is ignorant when he goes up to talk about many topics, and he's either way being coincidentally or incidentally dishonest. To the point that anyone who doesn't know - many of his fans - have the wrong information on what essentially is being discussed and widens the gulf between individuals because one way or another: that gap has to be bridged to be understood but if one party is militantly insistent that their definitions are wrong when they're not, or their assumptions are wrong because Lobster Daddy told them to them, then there's not going to be anything productive or good.


[18-May-19 10:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Either it be over-exaggerating the Canadian Human Rights Bill, or mis-interpreting and then combining Post-Modernism and Marxism.


[18-May-19 10:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
And his habit of being dodgy in interviews, to say something controversial and then connect it with something uncontroversial. And when he's charged on it saying, "I'm not saying anything".


[18-May-19 12:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) btw, iirc, police recruitment procedures in the US will disqualify you if you have a high IQ


[18-May-19 12:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think it's because they believe police recruits who are smart will be more prone to questioning authority


[18-May-19 01:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630

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US Court Ruling: You Can Be "Too Smart" to Be a Cop - Global Research
This article was first published on GR on December 18, 2014 Can a person actually be “too smart” to be a cop in America? A federal court’s decision back in 2000 suggests that, yes, you actually can be. Robert Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, scored a 33 on an...
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[18-May-19 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains so fucking much...


[18-May-19 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 original article on the subject

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A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discr...
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[18-May-19 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610

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[18-May-19 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1129452432034029568

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What angers me about the GOP’s attempts to turn the United States into a far-right Christian theocracy is how dishonest they are about it.

At least be forthright about your desire to subvert and dismantle our democracy into a creepy theological order led by a mad king.
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[18-May-19 04:01 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-May-19 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[18-May-19 06:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I'm not surprised my sate passed abortion bill, My state was one if the ones that voted for Cunt the most


[18-May-19 06:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/scottludlam/status/1129346855383420930?s=21

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just a quick reminder to anyone thinking about voting for the kind of religious hard-liners who have orchestrated the #abortionban human rights abuse in the US: don't. just don't. do not. #auspol #Ausvotes2019
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[18-May-19 06:32 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
It's starting to go back next thing you know women will be doing house work instead of what we can do now


[18-May-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/protests-continue-over-schools-okay-to-be-gay-lessons/ar-AABvVDO

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Protests continue over school's 'okay to be gay' lessons
Daily demonstrations have been taking place outside Anderton Park Primary School in Birmingham but Friday's was the largest - and angriest - so far.


[18-May-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“In fact, this bill legalizes discrimination — government imposed top-down discrimination against those with time-honored views of marriage and gender,” she said in remarks on the floor ahead of the vote."'


[18-May-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic argument


[18-May-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That equality is discriminatory against the discriminators


[18-May-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
That discrimination against them is worse than the discrimination they will perform.


[18-May-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is an argument that can only be done from a position of power.


[18-May-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f24aa1650ebd49789d3a202dcc4e3cbd

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Bernie Sanders unveils plan to overhaul public education
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders wants to suspend taxpayer funding of new charter schools and ban those that are for-profit as part of his plan to overhaul...
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[18-May-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/mcdonalds-asked-not-to-sell-milkshakes-during-farage-rally/ar-AABybmS

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McDonald's asked not to sell milkshakes during Farage rally
Police asked a McDonald's in Edinburgh not to sell ice cream or milkshakes during a rally run by Nigel Farage.


[18-May-19 09:44 PM] Litrojia#0612
I'll kms myself if milkshakes become a political symbol


[18-May-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, people were jsut using the ice cream, milkshakes, and apple pies as projectiles during a speech soemtime earlier


[18-May-19 09:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Discriminateception @Nebbie


[18-May-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, I came across an incredibly cringy and misinformed series of memey anti-democratic mini-episodes called "news done right"


[18-May-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
in one of the episodes, it says that the "fake dossier", that actor who paid people to beat him up, and the thing about the smug high school student and native american were all a part of the same interconnected conspiracy by democrats to destroy donald trump and prevent him from being re-elected in 2020


[18-May-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
and then another episode saying that "president ocasio-cortez" had all the cows killed in cold blood to stop climate change, so they can't go out and get a burger anymore


[18-May-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
the acting was incredibly stilted and kinda cringy though, like they were trying to force viral memes or something


[18-May-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Who is James Charles and why is everyone talking about this person


[18-May-19 10:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
manipulative sunuvabitch


[18-May-19 10:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but not necessarily politics-related


[18-May-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
manipulative howso


[18-May-19 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can anyone explain to me where the memes about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being empty-headed came from


[18-May-19 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause honestly she's one of the most intelligent and salient folks in congress atm


[18-May-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
james charles is a gay youtuber who does makeup, it apparently came out that he manipulates gay men by threatening to oust them as gay using pictures or whatever


[18-May-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
the lowkey gay men who don't want it to be known that they're gay


[18-May-19 10:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.disclose.tv/amazon-tribe-wins-lawsuit-against-big-oil-saving-millions-of-acres-of-rainforest-367412?fbclid=IwAR29RRfFQu6DVzpAxLDaf0_KZVR7YpS72hlsJqPxDggvTVaZ_vHKNWQv7Ss

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[18-May-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yee


[18-May-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yeah


[18-May-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610

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[18-May-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but seriously how do you pronounce your last name?


[18-May-19 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
BUdaJEDGe


[18-May-19 11:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129856328363577344?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1129856328363577344?s=21
Word is out that book is GREAT! https://t.co/mTA1xcz9eQ
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[18-May-19 11:17 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[18-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's boot edge edge


[18-May-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't that hard


[18-May-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that book looks fantastic, 10/10 would work as a door stop!


[18-May-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/1129796511611490304?s=19

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https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/1129796511611490304?s=19
I think If you’re going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes Governor of Alabama.
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[18-May-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What did Robotnik mean by this


[18-May-19 11:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I approve of late term abortions of up to 100 years.


[19-May-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Jim Carrey thinks abortions are okay but is anti-vaxx


[19-May-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[19-May-19 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/NkCqRO6bPUA

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LightningMcQueenGayming
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Dennis Prager Lives in a Society
Gamers rise up! BOTTOM TEXT
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[19-May-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Waiting for the PragerU video that gets upset at these


[19-May-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Copystrike


[19-May-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No I mean a whole video, probably based around the meme of "left can't meme"


[19-May-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Lol


[19-May-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I think some of these are fucking amazing tbh


[19-May-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/2vHR4KX9tzU

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/2vHR4KX9tzU
[YTP] Year In Review: The Dumbest 2016 In History
Happy New Year!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2vHR4KX9tzU/hqdefault.jpg


[19-May-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/hz8afkn237v21.png

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[19-May-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[19-May-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Z4EHG5bd-Kg

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/Z4EHG5bd-Kg
[YTP] Welcome to Alex Jonestown
Music: "Y.M.C.A." by The Village People "Il trovatore" (anvil chorus) by Giuseppe Verdi "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z4EHG5bd-Kg/hqdefault.jpg


[19-May-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm fucking dying


[19-May-19 06:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/2vHR4KX9tzU

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/2vHR4KX9tzU
[YTP] Year In Review: The Dumbest 2016 In History
Happy New Year!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2vHR4KX9tzU/hqdefault.jpg


[19-May-19 06:09 AM] illumnious#7938
@byte[] thanks for the damm video


[19-May-19 01:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/roseveleth/status/1128508828717215744

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Rose Eveleth ▷▷ (@roseveleth)
https://twitter.com/roseveleth/status/1128508828717215744
So let's recap: 
→ sex ed is discouraged 
→ birth control is impossible to access 
→ abortion and miscarriage are considered felonies 
→ felons can't vote
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[19-May-19 01:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:ponythinking:


[19-May-19 03:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Republicans taking the long way around to repealing women's suffrage.


[19-May-19 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I should point out that while Alabama's law puts the penalty on the doctors performing the abortion, Georgia's law is unclear on who, exactly, gets punished


[19-May-19 06:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1129975147002236929?s=21

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https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1129975147002236929?s=21
Arnold was attacked today by some crazy dude. I guess Trump shouldn’t worry about any drop-kicking, since the crazies adore him so much! @PaulLeeTicks https://t.co/HcfWxQkofK
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[19-May-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony doesn't matter to Georgia, as long as SOMEONE gets punished. That's the Republican mindset, anyways.


[19-May-19 11:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/hk7180wdnm0

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/hk7180wdnm0
It's a Sad, Sad, Sad, Sad World
....... Music: German National Anthem (“Deutschlandlied”) by Joseph Haydn. Performed by the infamous Egyptian military band. “Running in the 90’s” by Maurizi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hk7180wdnm0/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-May-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130207891049332737
If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again!
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[20-May-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(click for thread)


[20-May-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god


[20-May-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I finally listened to a Shapiro video


[20-May-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He sounds like a fucking chipmunk


[20-May-19 01:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I wasn't expecting that voice either tbh


[20-May-19 01:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
It makes YTPs featuring him that much better


[20-May-19 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Shapiro: "I make myself look smart by DESTROYING already crying COLLEGE LIBERALS"


[20-May-19 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that'll be $2,000

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[20-May-19 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine paying money to have a manlet scree at you for two hours


[20-May-19 01:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
How much to top his FACTS and LOGIC with my DICK


[20-May-19 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
AOC's feet pics


[20-May-19 01:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🤣


[20-May-19 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dear AOC: Despite making up less than one percent of the US population you make up 100% of my wet dreams. Send feet pics."- Ben Daddy


[20-May-19 01:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~did anyone ponify them yet~~


[20-May-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just saw an anime version


[20-May-19 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd search Derpibooru but I feel I would find only the limpest political cartoons


[20-May-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Never mind I did


[20-May-19 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
shapiro has all of three pics and there's nothing for AOC


[20-May-19 01:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
lol


[20-May-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bb54595393a14fcd867476996ef94129


[20-May-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Iowa farmer Tim Bardole survived years of low crop prices and rising costs by cutting back on fertilizer and herbicides and fixing broken-down equipment rather than buying new. When President Donald Trump’s trade war with China made a miserable situation worse, Bardole used up any equity his operation had and started investing in hogs in hopes they’ll do better than crops.

A year later, the dispute is still raging and soybeans hit a 10-year-low. But Bardole says he supports his president more today than he did when he cast a ballot for Trump in 2016, skeptical he would follow through on his promises.

“He does really seem to be fighting for us,” Bardole says, “even if it feels like the two sides are throwing punches and we’re in the middle, taking most of the hits.”


[20-May-19 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, Tim


[20-May-19 02:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f3WwrOPHsI

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The Citizen Brain
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f3WwrOPHsI
[YTP] The Good, the Bad and the Fugly
Control of Congress is a lot of power. They're gonna have to earn it. Music: "The Good, the bad and the Ugly (Titles)" by Ennio Morricone "The Trio" by Ennio...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5f3WwrOPHsI/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-May-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Goddamn someone needs to take Trump's phone from him


[20-May-19 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah, he can keep the phone. Take everything else though


[20-May-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
Delete his Twitter


[20-May-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1129903879972413441

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Wild Geerters (@classiclib3ral)
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1129903879972413441
Right wingers are fucking pissed at Burger King for tweeting that they sell milkshakes
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[20-May-19 02:59 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[20-May-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scottish police told a mcdonalds to stop selling milkshakes and ice cream so people couldnt throw them at some right wing politicians doing a speech int hat area


[20-May-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burgerking responded with thus


[20-May-19 03:01 AM] ononim#8141
Carlgon of UKIP keeps getting milkshaked on his campaing trips


[20-May-19 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't care for much about this timeline, but sassy fast food twitter is a nice perk of it


[20-May-19 03:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[20-May-19 03:28 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'm compelled to buy a milkshake next time I got to McD's


[20-May-19 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
the ice cream machine is broken tho


[20-May-19 03:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
oh no 😨


[20-May-19 04:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1130200090583478274?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1130200090583478274?s=21
Our Economy and Jobs Market is BOOMING, the best in the World and in our Country’s history - and we have just started!
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[20-May-19 04:19 AM] illumnious#7938
Someone really needs to take his fucking away from him and put his ass in a fucking crib


[20-May-19 04:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1130183995587813383?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1130183995587813383?s=21
Watched some of the Fake News Political Shows this morning and continue to be amazed at how every question is asked in the most negative way. The Mainstream Media should be ashamed of itself - But the good news is that the USA is wise to your game of dishonesty and decepti...
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[20-May-19 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw is baby twump sad they didn't asl him about his glorious non leadership?


[20-May-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey so you know that thing that some sites do where random words in forum posts become links (usually to ads)? I'm starting to think Twitter could start implementing that on Trump's tweets - where various keywords point to articles on the topic from neutral sources


[20-May-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Is that what those are?


[20-May-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the ones with the double underline? yes indeed


[20-May-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Huh


[20-May-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
I've always thought they were just random


[20-May-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Or bugged


[20-May-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/yi7vgqzr58z21.png

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[20-May-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/mcb1q16ak3k11.jpg

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[20-May-19 05:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/theJagmeetSingh/status/1130274051568668672

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Jagmeet Singh (@theJagmeetSingh)
https://twitter.com/theJagmeetSingh/status/1130274051568668672
The election is coming.

House New Democrat

Our words: Love & Courage,❤️&💪🏾

#GameOfThronesFinale #TheFinalEpisode
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[20-May-19 08:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/IdeJ1FKdiQE

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Michael Saba
https://youtu.be/IdeJ1FKdiQE
KILL la KILL: Fashion, Fascism and the Fight for Freedom
Yes, KILL la KILL is a dumb and horny action anime about skimpy battle uniforms. But it's also an amazingly relevant coming-of-age tale, and its message chan...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IdeJ1FKdiQE/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-May-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know https://theintercept.com/2019/05/16/coal-industry-climate-change-denial-cloud-peak-energy/

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https://theintercept.com/2019/05/16/coal-industry-climate-change-denial-cloud-peak-energy/
A Major Coal Company Went Bust. Its Bankruptcy Filing Shows That I...
Cloud Peak Energy gave contributions to leading think tanks that have attacked the link between the burning of fossil fuels and climate change.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2019/05/AP_476149021302-cloud-peak-energy-coal-bankruptcy-1558036812-e1558037876621.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[20-May-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible that much of the Republican anti-science bullshit will die out from lakk of funding


[20-May-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
after the outdated and terrible businesses get driven into the ground by their own stubborn assholishness.


[20-May-19 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.timesofisrael.com/polish-candidate-puts-kippah-on-rival-says-her-party-kneels-to-jews/

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Polish candidate puts kippah on rival, says her party ‘kneels to...
Election debate devolves into display of anti-Semitism as candidates spar over restitution to Jewish Holocaust victims; Polish PM says paying compensation a 'victory for Hitler'
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[20-May-19 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
who else but Polska


[20-May-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/59acb252c0a94730ab765d3c3e34b782

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Amid #MeToo, states debate teaching consent to kids
Inside a Catholic school in Portland, Oregon, high school sophomores break into groups to discuss some once-taboo topics: abusive relationships and consent. At one desk, a girl with...
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[20-May-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2eb2f863127f4176a27d6bdf577b05c9

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Trump's EPA shifts more environmental enforcement to states
BOKOSHE, Okla. (AP) — Susan Holmes' home, corner store and roadside beef jerky stand are right off Oklahoma Highway 31, putting them in the path of trucks hauling ash and waste from a power plant...
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[20-May-19 05:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZImW5ZU2uY

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The Thinkery
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It is Wrong to Normalise Violence in British Politics
There is a feedback loop in British public life that is normalising and inciting violence against dissident political activists. This is a terrible turn of e...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EZImW5ZU2uY/hqdefault.jpg


[20-May-19 05:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Right wingers are trying to take away milkshakes in the UK when they are in town. Literally crying over spilled milk. 🥛 :twismug:


[20-May-19 05:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Heh, for russian speaking person this is quite hilarious, given that there is a nice wordplay.


[20-May-19 05:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And that's symbolic to great extent


[20-May-19 06:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
uhh he's talking about political violence in general and the double standard of enforcement of laws.


[20-May-19 06:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
one guy throws eggs at Jeremy corbyn and faces 29 days in jail.  people throw milkshakes at Carl and bricks at Tommy and little is done to either discourage it or stop it.


[20-May-19 06:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's only going to lead to escalation


[20-May-19 06:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, the point is why it's funny, because in Russian milkshake is called "milk cocktail", and we all know there are cocktails invented by Comrade Molotov (actually not).


[20-May-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/20/new-ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-takes-office-calls-end-war-east-a65649

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New Ukrainian President Zelenskiy Takes Office, Calls to End War i...
The new leader said Ukraine is ready for dialogue with Russia.
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[20-May-19 06:27 PM] Honahue#0656
Gonna need a loicence for milk shakes in the UK soon


[20-May-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Nah


[20-May-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
The ice cream machine is always broken


[20-May-19 06:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You got a loicence for that dairy product? Its non dairy vegan milk. YEET 🥛 🇬🇧


[20-May-19 06:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Milkshakes will be banned as incendairy weapons. *ba-dum-tss*


[20-May-19 06:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCwXn40KvQ

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Conservatively Right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoCwXn40KvQ
Arnold Schwarzenegger Gets Hit By An Egg, Doesn't Even Flinch
"He Owes Me Bacon Now!"
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[20-May-19 07:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/A5InzAzzSTPWbcrkS_aSgFw

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16-year-old migrant boy dies in U.S. custody, 5th child to die sin...
The boy, who was apprehended after crossing the border on May 13 near Hidalgo, Texas, was found unresponsive Monday morning during a welfare check.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQTVJbnpBenpTVFBXYmNya1NfYVNnRncAMA


[20-May-19 07:21 PM] Honahue#0656
Arnie got dropped kicked recently and it barely phased him, he's a 70 yo man


[20-May-19 07:23 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm sure he's on the best pharmaceuticals Hollywood doctor's can prescribe tho but it still takes work to maintain


[20-May-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/30fa03eb928d4357a52b4d95636e0f6a

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Ukraine's new leader moves quickly to dissolve parliament
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Emboldened by his stunning victory last month, Ukrainian TV star Volodymyr Zelenskiy moved swiftly Monday to dissolve the country's parliament, moments after he was sworn in...
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[20-May-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Zelenskiy, who won 73% of the vote last month, justified his contentious decision to dissolve the parliament, which is controlled by allies of the man he defeated, Petro Poroshenko, on the grounds it has become a hotbed of self-enrichment.


[20-May-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/20/724987193/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-native-american-rights-in-wyoming-hunting-case

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https://www.npr.org/2019/05/20/724987193/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-native-american-rights-in-wyoming-hunting-case
Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Native American Rights In Wyoming ...
Justice Neil Gorsuch, the only Westerner on the court, again provided the decisive vote in favor of American Indian rights.
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[20-May-19 09:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Good on him


[20-May-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/20/chris-coons-republicans-say-privately-mueller-repo/

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Chris Coons: Republicans say privately Mueller report shows Donald Tru
Sen. Chris Coons said Monday Republicans are privately saying special counsel Robert Mueller's report details President Trump engaging in obstruction of justice.
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[20-May-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
"Republicans will soon claim to be victims of Trump rather than the ones actively supporting him."


[20-May-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Welp.


[20-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4768160/

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Loners - IMDb
Directed by Eryc Tramonn.  With Brian Letscher, Tyson Turrou, David Christian Welborn, Melissa Paladino. A satire about an ensemble of eccentric loners caught in the middle of "The War on Loneliness", a program created by politicians to stem the growing tide of violence. Forc...
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[20-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting movie concept


[20-May-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
TFW you kind of agree with a satirical concept


[20-May-19 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-May-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently Sekulow was the one who told Cohen to lie


[21-May-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So BuzzFeed was still right


[21-May-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/444646-michael-cohen-told-lawmakers-that-trump-lawyer-jay-sekulow-instructed

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Cohen told lawmakers that Trump lawyer Sekulow instructed him to l...
The president's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen told lawmakers during a closed-door hearing earlier this year that Trump attorney Jay Sekulow instructed him to lie about when negotiations for a Trump Tower in Moscow ended, the
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/probes_cohenmichael_031219getty.jpg


[21-May-19 12:40 AM] Torr#5078
https://youtu.be/BPgq1c4TYi4

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Dr. Joseph Nicolosi
https://youtu.be/BPgq1c4TYi4
"Unbiased, Open Research [on Homosexuality] Was Never Done"
"Unbiased, Open Research [on Homosexuality] Was Never Done," Says Former A.P.A. President in Interview http://www.josephnicolosi.com/
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BPgq1c4TYi4/hqdefault.jpg


[21-May-19 12:57 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[21-May-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
thanks for updating that link


[21-May-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/444680-mcgahn-rejects-house-subpoena-to-appear

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McGahn rejects House subpoena to appear
Former White House counsel Don McGahn will not appear before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday despite a congressional subpoena demanding his appearance.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcgahndon_092718pool_lead.jpg


[21-May-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Contempt when


[21-May-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats are so afraid that doing their job will make them lose next year that it's actually having the opposite effect and make them look bad


[21-May-19 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, I so want a fucking Robespierre tier Democrat.


[21-May-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do they think an Obama voter who turned to Trump wants


[21-May-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just don't go to the expected measure of justice, but the very end of it. And beyond if possible.


[21-May-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make Washington run with blood


[21-May-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't happen


[21-May-19 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to see a Reign of Terror so grandiose is fries the neurons of the establishment papers.


[21-May-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to see Op-Ed columns asking: "The current Reign of Terror is terrifying: but could it have gone further?"


[21-May-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You would just get a military coup that is bloodless.


[21-May-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or some shitty self-parody of centrism


[21-May-19 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
"We're Not Saying The Senate Losing Their Heads Is Wrong, But Could Less Have Died To Le Bain?"


[21-May-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Mass Murder of Political Rivals in Public Spectacle Is One Thing, But The Jacobin-Democrats Failing To Support Isreal Is a Whole New Tragedy."


[21-May-19 02:37 AM] Honahue#0656
"So many heads chopped off but DC still has the same number of brains"


[21-May-19 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Clerical Land Reform: Why We Need Additional Protection For America's Preists"


[21-May-19 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/t8kVZ6cCCFM

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Yaz Minsky
https://youtu.be/t8kVZ6cCCFM
In Every Whopper, A Heartache: Fast Food, Capitalism, and Mental H...
A response to Burger King's #FeelYourWay, and an examination of mental illness and fast food capitalism as comorbid disorders
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t8kVZ6cCCFM/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-May-19 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Being sad sometimes doesn't mean you're mentally ill.


[21-May-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Quick rundown before I watch?


[21-May-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Burger King exploited people's big mood to sell burgers, because the question of "where do I eat?" has been broadened to now also include, "I feel X, so what do I eat?"


[21-May-19 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
I liked his vid on Alpha Centauri but haven'g goten hand on this one yet


[21-May-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[21-May-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McDonald's and other places have done this on the down low for decades


[21-May-19 02:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's also through-ways in topics like body positivity


[21-May-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BK is just being blatant now


[21-May-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I honestly don't think that's really a legitimate criticism. People eat based on their mood and BK's advertising doesn't make me any more likely to eat there unless it's a pretty bad day for me


[21-May-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people who I saw the most upset about this was the gamers rise up group and because the commercial had minorities in it


[21-May-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Legitimate criticism: BK is one of the largest chains in the world and pays employees piss poor wages


[21-May-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every time I go past a BK with the kiosks they're broken


[21-May-19 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
The revenue and profit part of BK is discussed.


[21-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
A fast food trend that really grinds my gears is non-standard size names


[21-May-19 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
But another big part of it is to also target how human feelings and such are exploited for game, and reduced not just to a health issue like depression, but a selling bullet point where "seek medical help" is a foot note, but the real solution the company is ultimately proposing is, "Depression eat our burgers to the point you develop a resistance and keep going."


[21-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
e.g. starbucks (tall, venti, grande) or coldstone (like it, love it, "gotta have it")


[21-May-19 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok idubbbz


[21-May-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
and that pisses me off more than any ad campaign BK will probably ever run


[21-May-19 03:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyiBdccfNkg

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Lindsay Ellis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyiBdccfNkg
How Aladdin Changed Animation (by Screwing Over Robin Williams)
"After all, you've lied to everyone else, I was starting to feel left out." Twitter - @thelindsayellis Patreon.com/LindsayEllis Merch store: https://store.df...
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[21-May-19 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
"I'm losing to a BRID"


[21-May-19 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Jason Alexanders best animated role was as Duckman


[21-May-19 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/20/arnold-schwarzenegger-not-pressing-charges-drop-kick-attack

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Arnold Schwarzenegger 'not pressing charges' after drop-kick attack
Actor sends message of empathy to his assailant after initially failing to notice the flying kick into his back at sports gala
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[21-May-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
arnold is a tank


[21-May-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Arnold should be president


[21-May-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[21-May-19 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, if you had to ask me to pick between trump and ahnold I'd pick ahnold in a heartbeat


[21-May-19 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
but that doesn't mean he should be president


[21-May-19 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
He'd probably be more of the same. Just because he's a Prius with a gun rack doesn't mean it'll be an overall better change.


[21-May-19 05:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Arnie is pretty liberal afaik


[21-May-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
He was governor of Cali as well


[21-May-19 05:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Don't exactly know how he did


[21-May-19 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He was...eh


[21-May-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
my mom was "disappointed" with him, says that his wife (who's apparently related to the kennedys) "liberalized" him


[21-May-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking according to statistics, Obama voters that turned to Trump want the brown people to stop coming in and reproducing.


[21-May-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not exactly what Democrats should be trying to court.


[21-May-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A win is a win.


[21-May-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
No like, they're shrinking in number


[21-May-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of them are old and hav no kids


[21-May-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the sort of people that watch a bit of Fox News and little else.


[21-May-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but aren't super deep into it)


[21-May-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones Democrats are trying to court are young people.


[21-May-19 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang Gang


[21-May-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/20/morehouse-graduate-had-100-k-student-loans-one-speech-changed/3748362002/

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'God has smiled on me': Morehouse grad had $100K in student loans,...
Elijah Dormeus was graduating Sunday from Morehouse College in Atlanta when he learned a billionaire would pay off his $100,000 in student loans.
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[21-May-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
#justdystopiathings


[21-May-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
gotta just hope a billionaire pays off your college debt


[21-May-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
All we need now is everyone else with a debt to collectively decide to not pay anything until better terms can be negotiated.


[21-May-19 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
he was a Republican governor but he's not the same kind of repub as the ones in Congress, I mean he'd be better than Trump no doubt that's not a high bar to beat though


[21-May-19 06:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
He'd be comparable to a right wing Democrat.


[21-May-19 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[21-May-19 06:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Do token effort green energy stuff, like draft a proposal for a tax credit on Priuses to get more people to buy them. And then not do much on guns.


[21-May-19 06:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
As Robin Williams joked about him in the 2000's: "He's a Volvo with a gun-rack. Kinda wild."


[21-May-19 07:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/white-fdny-lieutenant-sues-department-racial-discrimination

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White FDNY lieutenant sues department over racial discrimination a...
A white firefighter has sued the FDNY after claiming he was barred from participating in a color guard ceremony honoring deceased members of the Vulcan Society - a fraternal organization of black firefighters.
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[21-May-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/us/fdny-white-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/19/us/fdny-white-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/index.html
White FDNY lieutenant accuses official of removing him from color ...
A white lieutenant with the New York City Fire Department filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the city Friday, saying he was removed from a position on the color guard because he is not black.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120308115336-fdny-patches-story-top.jpg


[21-May-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
>Lt. Daniel McWilliams was initially selected by the FDNY Ceremonial Unit to serve as a flag bearer in the color guard for the Memorial Mass, an "esteemed honor and privilege," the lawsuit states.
>However, Regina Wilson, the president of the Vulcan Society, allegedly removed McWilliams on the day of the event because she specifically requested an all-black color guard, the lawsuit says.
>"Are you removing me from the Color Guard because I am not Black?" McWilliams asked her, the lawsuit states.
>"Yes, I am," Wilson allegedly responded. She then ordered him to perform "lesser duties" of escorting civilians and mustering uniformed offices into formation away from the Memorial Mass, the lawsuit states.


[21-May-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
if she actually said this, that's gonna be an easy win


[21-May-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
>A complaint was filed on McWilliams' behalf to the FDNY's Equal Employment Opportunity Office, and the investigation concluded that there was "sufficient credible and corroborating evidence" that he was excluded from the color guard because of his race, the lawsuit states.


[21-May-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
you know we're starting to reach true equality is when whites have to sue for racial discrimination


[21-May-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
finally treated like the minority we are, woohoo


[21-May-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not really sure a simple /s is enough to convey being properly sardonic


[21-May-19 10:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c7262eb10c514c3f8994244422e99e71

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https://apnews.com/c7262eb10c514c3f8994244422e99e71
'3 strikes' sentencing reform leaves out Washington inmates
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — A small group of inmates, disproportionately black, are set to stay in Washington state prisons for life — left out of the latest in a multi-year wave of reforms easing...
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[21-May-19 10:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim lmao, why is Putin giving top secret documents to his chef


[21-May-19 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-May-19 10:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/trump-pardons-war-crimes.html

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By DAVE PHILIPPS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/trump-pardons-war-crimes.html
Trump May Be Preparing Pardons for Servicemen Accused of War Crimes
Military officials received expedited requests for paperwork needed to pardon several military members on or around Memorial Day.
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[21-May-19 10:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>President Trump has indicated that he is considering pardons for several American military members accused or convicted of war crimes, including high-profile cases of murder, attempted murder and desecration of a corpse, according to two United States officials.

The officials said that the Trump administration had made expedited requests this week for paperwork needed to pardon the troops on or around Memorial Day.


[21-May-19 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Happy memorial day! Fuck the vets, let;s celebrate these war criminals instead!"


[21-May-19 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck turmp


[21-May-19 11:11 AM] Mikey#7286
hey that's what Trudeau did


[21-May-19 11:11 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[21-May-19 11:11 AM] Mikey#7286
he said "vets ask too much" and let literal ISIS members roam free


[21-May-19 11:12 AM] Mikey#7286
the first three letters are the same


[21-May-19 11:12 AM] Mikey#7286
coincidence?


[21-May-19 11:12 AM] Mikey#7286
I think NOT!


[21-May-19 11:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this memorial day and 4th of july are going to be a trumped up mess


[21-May-19 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ymn939dbldz21.jpg

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[21-May-19 04:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news/cops_courts/article_5db8e089-d0b0-500d-942a-c33f8ff068cd.html

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https://www.jhnewsandguide.com/news/cops_courts/article_5db8e089-d0b0-500d-942a-c33f8ff068cd.html
Bad bust puts cop in legal trouble
A teenager held at gunpoint last summer by an off-duty police officer who assumed he had committed a crime is suing her for violating his civil rights.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/jhnewsandguide.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/35/c35d561e-da17-58ce-9e6d-1bf2936a86d7/5cdb8e1b7240c.image.jpg?resize=945%2C630


[21-May-19 04:19 PM] ononim#8141
```“Mr. Becerra, a diminutive 17-year-old Hispanic resident, was late one morning and running to catch his bus after leaving the apartment where he lived with his parents,” attorney Alex Freeburg stated in the complaint. “Without any more information, and without investigating any further, [Ms. Schultz] exited her vehicle, pulled out a pistol, and ordered Mr. Becerra to stop and get on the ground.”```


[21-May-19 05:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
👮 🔫


[21-May-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48345742

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US 'underestimates' Huawei, founder says
A dispute over Huawei has escalated with implications for the firm, the tech sector and consumers.
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[21-May-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48338168

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Iran dismisses Trump's 'genocidal taunts'
Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif says the US president should try showing Iranians some respect.
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[21-May-19 08:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-china-sex-trade-rape-slavery-abuse-trafficking-a8921481.html

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Tens of thousands of North Korean women 'sold into China sex trade...
'North Korean women and girls are passed through the hands of traffickers, brokers, and criminal organisations. Before being pulled into China’s sex trade, where they are exploited and used by men until their bodies are depleted,' says report
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/09/06/09/north-korean-women-army.jpg


[21-May-19 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://newsthump.com/2019/05/20/nazi-salute-actually-began-as-a-reflex-to-block-incoming-milkshakes-confirm-historians/

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Pete Redfern
https://newsthump.com/2019/05/20/nazi-salute-actually-began-as-a-reflex-to-block-incoming-milkshakes-confirm-historians/
'Nazi salute' actually began as a reflex to block incoming milksha...
The so-called 'Nazi salute' or 'Hitler salute' was never actually a greeting and was more of a reflex against incoming dairy projectiles, historians have confirmed today.
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[21-May-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444691-house-freedom-caucus-votes-to-condemn-amashs-impeachment-comments

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House Freedom Caucus votes to condemn Amash's impeachment comments
The conservative House Freedom Caucus took an official position condemning Rep. Justin Amash’s (R-Mich.) call for impeaching President Trump on Monday evening, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told reporters.
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[21-May-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
pelosi: let them fight


[21-May-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so when do they start turning on mcconnell?


[21-May-19 09:25 PM] Honahue#0656
Never he's the reason everyone hates Dems, they can't do anything so long as McTurtle refuses to do anything


[21-May-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Jordan do some sketchy shit


[21-May-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/21/18633925/nintendo-animal-crossing-pocket-camp-fire-emblem-heroes-mobile-games-shut-down-belgium-loot-box-law

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Nintendo’s Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem mobile games to be sh...
Service for both games ends on August 27th.
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[21-May-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As they should be


[21-May-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's gambling plain and simple


[21-May-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All those Yoshi tax fraud jokes and it turns out Isabelle/Nook were the real ones violating the law


[21-May-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we trusted isabelle and she stabbed us through the heart with tax evasion


[21-May-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how could she


[21-May-19 10:38 PM] Marukomuru#8409
She finally got her revenge for all the porn of her


[21-May-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't get why gambling is illegal


[21-May-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, stop kids from getting into it, same as smoking or drinking or whatever


[21-May-19 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But if an adult wants to burn all their cash in a garbage fire, let them


[21-May-19 11:05 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Something something "morality", I'm guessing


[21-May-19 11:07 PM] Marukomuru#8409
It's not necessarily that its illegial. It's that it's being used in games that are actively marketed to children.


[21-May-19 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Back in the day, Pokémon came under fire for this in the EU because of the Game Corners.


[21-May-19 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So don't let kids play them


[21-May-19 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And this shit is aaaaancient


[21-May-19 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Magic and Football/Baseball cards


[21-May-19 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind Kinder Surprise or other kids' treats with collectables


[21-May-19 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem now is idiot parents giving their kids their credit cards


[21-May-19 11:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
To be fair, those are tangible items. The item you get from a lootbox is not only not tangible, but considering the whole Games as a Service model, you don't actually own the item, and at any given time, the servers for said game can just go bye-bye


[21-May-19 11:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Still got all your baseball cards though 🤷


[21-May-19 11:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or your idiot brother flushes your collectible down the toilet

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[21-May-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least a "virtual item" is hard to delete


[21-May-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is it;s basically telling children to steal mommy's credit card to buy more stuff


[21-May-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's been going on for decades and decades


[21-May-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Since before arcade machines


[21-May-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's something fun that kids like and it costs money


[21-May-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has and it keweps gettign worse because some companies are pretty miuch making games aorudn that mechanic even if the games arent that genre


[21-May-19 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Make regulations to keep kids gated out, but don't fuck with it beyond that


[21-May-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
that's what marketing has been doing for decades though


[21-May-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the esrb rating was basically thaT in attempt


[21-May-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
basically target children so that they whine so hard that mommy and daddy buy them what they want just to get them to stop whining about it


[21-May-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'm not going back to jail"


[21-May-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-May-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Slap a "not meant for children, if your child is using this you are a failure of a guardian" sticker on it, call it a day


[21-May-19 11:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
It's been like this since forever; it's just more apparent now than it used to be because of an ever-interconnecting world (but mostly more and more companies realizing "hey we can make loads off of this")


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That's what the ESRB was supposed to do.


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Arcades that give out tickets basically teach kids how to gamble


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
All they did was "uhhhh In-Game Purchases"


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I even saw an arcade game that used blackjack rules


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of it is a problem with EA


[21-May-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and smartphone games


[21-May-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
smartphone games lock progression behind a paywall which in itself is scummy as fuck


[21-May-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Smartphone games tend to be free


[21-May-19 11:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
'In-Game Purchases' in itself being so vague, and not differentiating between outright item purchases, and purchases for mere keys required to open randomized crates


[21-May-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't like it, stop playing


[21-May-19 11:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I see intexda has been playing that Harry Potter game 🙃


[21-May-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even have a smartphone


[21-May-19 11:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Fuck in-app purchases tbh


[21-May-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but this in game purchases thing is getting abusive at this point


[21-May-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No but literally


[21-May-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a game


[21-May-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop playing


[21-May-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s a game you paid $60 and canlt get a refund on?


[21-May-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're an adult and this is difficult then you should be seeing a therapist


[21-May-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bought games is another matter


[21-May-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
F2P or GaaS, just put down the controller/phone/mouse, whatever


[21-May-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok so that brings us back to EA


[21-May-19 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EA's been scummy since the PS2 days


[21-May-19 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or since MoH2


[21-May-19 11:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
One of the big reasons I'm not warm towards console gaming


[21-May-19 11:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems you can't walk 2 feet without a microtransaction


[21-May-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's also a problem with perception


[21-May-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The most obvious recent case being Middle Earth 2: Shadow of War


[21-May-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A game that had microtransactions/lootboxes


[21-May-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they didn't gate any content and the game was so easy the only people that'd ever even notice they existed would be Russian oligarchs' kids


[21-May-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But their presence massively pissed off everyone


[22-May-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
I just buy games from devs that don't shove that unnecessary shit in


[22-May-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Mostly Indies and Nintendo


[22-May-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Some AAA ones like Fromsoft


[22-May-19 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
I don't like Nintendo's attitude towards fangames though....


[22-May-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nintendo has amazing PR


[22-May-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're an extremely hostile corporation


[22-May-19 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see a few problems here with lootboxes,  this is not that easy as "do not give a credit card to kid". This become a huge burden on parent to deal with 24/7 whining.


@Teaspoon


[22-May-19 01:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am not kidding


[22-May-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's difficult to communicate how some Japanese companies are


[22-May-19 01:10 AM] Mikey#7286
They're not that hostile, just towards copyright


[22-May-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh ho no


[22-May-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When they sent out Wii dev kits


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the documentation was in Japanese only


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Maybe it was an oversight


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
I could be wrong


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they all required buy ins of Dolphin dev kits


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Huh


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And when you actually got through it


[22-May-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The lotchecks demanded X


[22-May-19 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And put as example their own first party games


[22-May-19 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which ALL violated their own lotchecks


[22-May-19 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
~~also AM2R is better remake than Samus Returns~~


[22-May-19 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"You MUST have X screen visible before game loads for 6 seconds and show this button at this scale"


[22-May-19 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>load up Mario Sunshine, screen is visible for 2 seconds, button isn't even present


[22-May-19 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WELL OK THEN THANKS NINTENDO


[22-May-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind their massive hardon for suing content creators and fans out of existence


[22-May-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But hey, their games are colourful and happy and their console is cheap!


[22-May-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Well at least they backed off of that, albeit they never should have done it to begin with


[22-May-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just ignore that they're charging $20 for emulated ports of 30yo games and taking full commission, no money to the original devs


[22-May-19 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[22-May-19 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Games I can just boot up in nestopia or something


[22-May-19 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-May-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@Эᴚ|∫  Wow, just don't give your idiot kid a phone with CC details on it


[22-May-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's that, your kid keeps whining?


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So what


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wanted a console when I was a kid


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Mikey#7286
Online shouldn't cost anything but at least Sony and MS offer competent services


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess what I got?


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not a console


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or a car


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or a motorcycle


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or a gun


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or any expensive toys


[22-May-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I got books


[22-May-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I got a computer with educational programs


[22-May-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I got complicated games, for the day


[22-May-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I got lego sets


[22-May-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess we all gotta bend the knee for bitch ass parents that can't say no


[22-May-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Little Jimmy is just so insistent, I just can't say "No" unless The Government releases me of that responsibility and just makes whatever illegal so that I'm never faced with the weight of it all


[22-May-19 01:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"YOU GUYS LIKE MARIO RIGHT??? 😃 😄 😃 😄"
>"Actually I noticed you released NES Lifeforce on 3DS VC along with a few other JP-only releases so I'm waiting for the release of NES Gradius II"


[22-May-19 01:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"...HERE MORE MARIO 😃 😄 😃 😄"


[22-May-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Also the people who lack self control, imo loot boxes or mtx don't belong in any game ever but people should take responsibility


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
most parents prefer to see their child happy and not whining than just not buy something that's used to be relatively inconsequential


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
@Marukomuru meanwhile I'm waiting for more Metroid


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
VC Fusion when


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
nowadays, an unexpected expense like a switch is too much for the average american


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You know what happened when I told my mom I wanted a toy?


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She said "no"


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's the end of it


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
and you didn't whine?


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Nintendo: "oh sorry prime 4 is restarted, have Mario maker 2 instead"


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
if you didn't whine, you're in the top 1% of children lol


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking weak ass parents


[22-May-19 01:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
\*VC Fusion with the Hard and Easy difficulties they ripped out of the US release when


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
though to be fair, I never whined about not getting stuff either


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
"and you need nso to play user created levels"


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why the fuck would I whine


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah right @Marukomuru


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mom said "No"


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
because most kids are needy little shits


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"No" meant "No"


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
S'cool tho


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
I'll just play the jp version on vba


[22-May-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's not good enough for most kids


[22-May-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
so what was the punishment for whining?


[22-May-19 01:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
TSP was a good boy and was rewarded later in life with docks and ponuts for his diligent obedience 🙃


[22-May-19 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Telling them "No" again


[22-May-19 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
OwO


[22-May-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/what-great-parents-do/201502/3-reasons-your-kids-wont-take-no-answer

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3 Reasons Your Kids Won't Take "No" For An Answer
The surprising truth about why kids keep testing limits, and what to do about it
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[22-May-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
And Trixie, lotsa Trixie @Marukomuru

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[22-May-19 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm still gonna buy prime 4 day 1 tho lol


[22-May-19 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When my parents said "no"


[22-May-19 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It meant "no"


[22-May-19 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not "ask again"


[22-May-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If I asked for an expensive toy, and they said "no"


[22-May-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't expect to get an expensive toy as a surprise


[22-May-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And for whatever record, no, I wasn't abused or punished without meals or whatever bullshit


[22-May-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPN7aNGhIt4

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Sec. Ben Carson | An Oreo | Rep. Katie Porter quizzed REO
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[22-May-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine this man performing brain surgery on you


[22-May-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no thank you


[22-May-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure he knows what FHA is


[22-May-19 04:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Mikey to be fair restarting prime 4 was done out of care for the game


[22-May-19 04:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also lots of people wanted a mario maker for switch


[22-May-19 04:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Do you guys sometimes talk about non American politics


[22-May-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to truly kill loot boxes targeting children begging the parents


[22-May-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to fukk shit up with marketing


[22-May-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
marketing is out of control


[22-May-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
there are ads everywhere for everything


[22-May-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US even lets companies run ads for prescription drugs that don't work


[22-May-19 04:35 AM] Mikey#7286
@Gordon Freeman yeah ik


[22-May-19 04:36 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm glad it's in the hands of Retro Studios again


[22-May-19 04:51 AM] Honahue#0656
you'll never stop marketing it's too close to Free Speech


[22-May-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, you'll never stop it, but undoing what Reagan did to media would be a good step


[22-May-19 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
mixed feelings on that. On one hand, we wouldn't have MLP if not for that; on the other, we wouldn't have Fox & Friends, either


[22-May-19 05:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
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Pixar's "Cars" is [almost] an Anarchist Masterpiece
In which I explain why this kid's film about a racecar is actually a propaganda film about Anarchism. Sorry it's been so long between videos! Getting Pixar t...
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[22-May-19 05:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Sadly a world with out fox and Friends is much better than the world with ponies


[22-May-19 10:55 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Teaspoon and then another thing gets into play: peer pressure.


[22-May-19 10:58 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This gets a real deal of discipline,  will and solitude.


[22-May-19 10:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The same as with that not whining attitude.


[22-May-19 11:05 AM] Torr#5078
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48350023

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US TV station bans gay wedding cartoon
Alabama Public Television refuses to air a cartoon featuring a male rat and aardvark getting married.
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[22-May-19 11:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
can't they just say Arthur


[22-May-19 11:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
"US TV station bans Arthur"

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[22-May-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a particular episode, not the whole show.


[22-May-19 11:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's wrong with this?


[22-May-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alabama being discriminatory by refusing something conservatives generally say is how it *should* be done.


[22-May-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bla bla bla don't shove it in our faces just let there be gays and it'll be fine bla bla WAIT WHAT THERE WAS A GAY MARRIAGE SET FIRE TO IT


[22-May-19 01:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/817968543211790336

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I go to a fancy store to check out a piece of furniture, can't afford it. That's totally crazy! https://t.co/SEZa4ajDpt
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[22-May-19 01:37 PM] ononim#8141
Who else but Benito Sharpolini


[22-May-19 01:38 PM] ononim#8141
this is old one (from 2017) yes, but it graced my dahsboard and I am pretty sure that's still his opinion now


[22-May-19 01:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/817546801410555904

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Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders)
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People go to the doctor because they're sick, get a diagnosis from their doctor, but they can't afford the treatment. How crazy is that!
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[22-May-19 01:40 PM] ononim#8141
this was the twit he was responding to


[22-May-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a50c44e52b444a648f8413b6c6110349

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Research on children's health risks in doubt over EPA funds
WASHINGTON (AP) — Long-running research projects credited with pivotal discoveries about the harm that pesticides, air pollution and other hazards pose to children are in jeopardy or shutting down...
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[22-May-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5e210daa1cd94b6785fe5de0878a6dc1

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SEAL's lawyer wants prosecutor, judge booted off murder case
SAN DIEGO (AP) — A lawyer for a Navy SEAL accused of murder wants military prosecutors and a judge removed from the case for their roles in snooping on emails sent to the defense team and a...
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[22-May-19 06:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Wait don't tell me they are gay marrying mr. Ratburn are they?


[22-May-19 06:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Dude had a girlfriend in season 2 or 3.


[22-May-19 06:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Couldn't they had created a different character to have a gay wedding for?


[22-May-19 06:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Why retcon a established character.


[22-May-19 06:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Did he really?


[22-May-19 06:55 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd like to see this


[22-May-19 06:56 PM] Mikey#7286
I think you're mistaken


[22-May-19 06:56 PM] Mikey#7286
I can't find anything about him having a girlfriend


[22-May-19 06:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Or is it just "teh evul gays >:("


[22-May-19 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
>retcon


[22-May-19 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
Bi not real


[22-May-19 06:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah they didn't even specify whether he's gay or bi


[22-May-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh yeah


[22-May-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Bi people don't exist


[22-May-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they did have a gay wedding for mr. ratburn. I havent watched the episode myself but i hope it's not one of those one off cases where they have a wedding for a character and thne their spouse is never mentioned again ever


[22-May-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause that happens sometimes in children;s cartoons


[22-May-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and king of the hill...


[22-May-19 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
But i remember a early season episode where he had a relationship with a lady. In the episode he wasn't sure about whether to share his passion of puppetry with her or not


[22-May-19 07:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Are you sure it was actually a relationship


[22-May-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may have very well have


[22-May-19 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Again maybe he's bi and they didn't work out


[22-May-19 07:33 PM] Mikey#7286
Who knows


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not worth getting worked up over


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Who gives a shit


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh no


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
Gay marriage in a cartoon


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
The world is ending!!!!!


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this shows been going since 1996 they've probably lsot track of a few things from early seasons


[22-May-19 07:34 PM] Mikey#7286
AAAAAAAAAAA


[22-May-19 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
Exactly


[22-May-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the spongebob of pbs but more likeable


[22-May-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and handled less obsessively


[22-May-19 07:35 PM] Mikey#7286
This is just Alabama being anti-gay


[22-May-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Muh family morals


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Reeeee


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Homosexuality is unnatural


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
No


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the christian retirement community of america


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Shut up


[22-May-19 07:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Im not mad just disappointed when things fet retcon liked that


[22-May-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
Things are retconned all the time


[22-May-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not the point


[22-May-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think arthur has a solid canon to begin with


[22-May-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
The point is Alabama being Alabama


[22-May-19 07:37 PM] Mikey#7286
You can't marry the same sex


[22-May-19 07:38 PM] Mikey#7286
But marrying your first cousin is okay!


[22-May-19 07:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Actually early Arthur did have a pretty solid canon. With callbacks all the time


[22-May-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also shows that have the characters neve age but go on for decades with newer technology shown in them gets really confusing


[22-May-19 07:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[22-May-19 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the simpsons and family guy still does continuity things these days but none of it lines up properly because the characters never age...


[22-May-19 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the years in the shows still move forward


[22-May-19 07:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah exactly


[22-May-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so like sideshow bob has been trying to kill bart for liek 20 years now but it no longer really makes sense from a time line perspective


[22-May-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3ebca739a43a4a7484d7168331ae231d

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Arizona prisons urged to end ban on book about black men
PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona has banned prisoners from reading a book that discusses the impact of the criminal justice system on black men, drawing outcry from First Amendment advocates who say the...
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[22-May-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Arizona has banned prisoners from reading a book that discusses the impact of the criminal justice system on black men, drawing outcry from First Amendment advocates who say the move is censorship.

The American Civil Liberties Union called on the Arizona Department of Corrections this week to rescind the ban on “Chokehold: Policing Black Men.” The book by Paul Butler, a former federal prosecutor, examines law enforcement and mass incarceration through its treatment of African American men.

“In order for them to ban a book, they have to show the restriction is related to a legitimate prison interest,” said Emerson Sykes, an ACLU attorney. “There’s no interest to keep inmates from learning about the criminal justice system and policing.”


[22-May-19 09:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
We don't want people knowing about their rights.


[22-May-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people learn that they're being oppressed.


[22-May-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://korrasera.tumblr.com/post/185052102429/iopele-queerspeculativefiction-heidiblack

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The Iron Bender
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The Iron Bender
iopele: “ queerspeculativefiction: “ heidiblack: “ pillowswithboners: “ luchagcaileag: “ This isn’t because Burger King is nicer in Denmark. It’s the law, and the US is actually the only so-called...
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[22-May-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Apparently that prison wasn't aware of the Streisand effect


[22-May-19 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-nigel-farage-stuck-brexit-16185168 more milkshake news.

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Nigel Farage 'stuck on Brexit bus due to people armed with milkshakes'
The Brexit Party leader has been campaigning in Dartford and Gravesend today but three men with balaclavas are reported to have greeted him in Rochester
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[22-May-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh it's the whole state


[22-May-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Lol


[22-May-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48374098

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48374098
Commons leader quits government over Brexit
Senior minister Andrea Leadsom says she no longer believes the government's approach will deliver Brexit.
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[22-May-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
when it will finally disolve


[22-May-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
like


[22-May-19 09:56 PM] ononim#8141
at the very least there's either no UK control of Ireland or brexist so soft (on the level of Nroway and Swtizerland agreements) every hardcore brexiter will screem and kick what they were duped


[22-May-19 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, they were


[22-May-19 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just looking forward to seeing more of the Speaker


[22-May-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes for good TV


[22-May-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871

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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871
Parents are poisoning their children with bleach to ‘cure’ aut...
Private Facebook groups urge parents to poison autistic kids with chlorine dioxide to “cure” them. These moms are going undercover to fight back.
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[22-May-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[22-May-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
They are "curing" them


[22-May-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wth


[22-May-19 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
From the most insideous disease - life


[22-May-19 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
:^)


[22-May-19 10:00 PM] ononim#8141
make no mistake, if there were a posibility of prenatal screenming to revelal what baby is on the spectrum good chunk of these people would embrace eugenics even if they are "pro-lifers"


[22-May-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preists in africa are also selling it as a cure all for every disease


[22-May-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so a lot of kids in africa are being bleach poisoned


[22-May-19 10:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://derpibooru.org/273853

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[22-May-19 10:02 PM] ononim#8141
relevant


[22-May-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/04/20/a-church-that-says-drinking-bleach-is-a-miracle-cure-continues-to-do-damage/

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Hemant Mehta
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A Church That Says Drinking Bleach is a “Miracle Cure” Continu...
They've urged parents to give bleach to their infants.
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[22-May-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2019/05/21/youtube-cracks-down-on-videos-promoting-drinking-bleach-as-miracle-cure/

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https://nypost.com/2019/05/21/youtube-cracks-down-on-videos-promoting-drinking-bleach-as-miracle-cure/
YouTube cracks down on videos that promote drinking bleach as ‘m...
YouTube has cracked down on videos posted by crackpots and fringe figures who promote a host of “miracle cures,” including a holy elixir bleach peddled by a self-described archbishop fr…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/youtube-bleach.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[22-May-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/18/bleach-miracle-cure-uganda-us-pastor-robert-baldwin-sam-little

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US pastor runs network giving 50,000 Ugandans bleach-based 'miracl...
Group led by Robert Baldwin and part-funded by Sam Little claims drinking toxic fluid will eradicate HIV/Aids and other diseases
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[22-May-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make that US pastors are selling bleach to ugandans as cure alls


[22-May-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
I remember reading this a few months ago


[22-May-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
am I getting deja vu


[22-May-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it's probably an update


[22-May-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tried this shit back in march as well


[22-May-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in march washington state had a church open up a convention center to peddle this shit


[22-May-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
correction april


[22-May-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/19/church-group-to-hold-washington-event-despite-fda-warnings-against-miracle-cure

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/19/church-group-to-hold-washington-event-despite-fda-warnings-against-miracle-cure
'Church' to offer 'miracle cure' despite FDA warnings against drin...
Group to hold ‘effective alternative healing’ event in Washington state in which they peddle a ‘sacrament’ known to be industrial cleaner
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[22-May-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this some fucking 4chan hoax that went too far


[22-May-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who have kids with autism are desperate


[22-May-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or kids with cancer, or kids with a common cold


[22-May-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
if you weren't prepared to have a kid with autism


[22-May-19 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
you should have pulled out you dumbasses


[22-May-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or not waited to have a kid until you're 40


[22-May-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at one point this stuff was tried as an actuall medical thing probably a long ass time ago, and much like the antivaxx researhc paper that;s been debunct it got picked up by a radical group claiming it works


[22-May-19 10:19 PM] Mikey#7286
What the fuck


[22-May-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then profit seekers saw this group, built thme into a church to scare parents about their children;s safety, and bam! instant profit


[22-May-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just add deadly fuckin bleach


[22-May-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wakeman still is unrepentant


[22-May-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Generally irreligious person but there is some sort of afterlife pain awaiting for him


[22-May-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope


[22-May-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thing with medical science is there was a point before the FDA and other medical orginizations, where independant doctors did independant research with batshit insane ideas, and then actually put them to practice


[22-May-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like kellogs


[22-May-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kellogg estranged himself from his brother because he wanted to put sugar in corn flakes lol


[22-May-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also chemically burned children;s genitals, and did female circumcision because he was fucking insane


[22-May-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The sanitorium Kellogg believed all disease was caused by masturbation basically


[22-May-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Masturbation and spicy food


[22-May-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he even wrote books he released


[22-May-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
about parenting advice...


[22-May-19 10:27 PM] ononim#8141
This is why people make fun of white yanks tbh


[22-May-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the genesis 2 church has been going since 2010


[22-May-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is the afformentioned bleach church


[22-May-19 10:28 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/05/21/weld-willing-to-stand-up-for-republican-principles/

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Sandra Kent
https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/05/21/weld-willing-to-stand-up-for-republican-principles/
William Weld willing to stand up for Republican principles
Last week’s letter from Donald Trump’s counsel informing Congress that the administration would not comply with subpoenas demanding information about administration conduct because, well, it did no…
https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/AP19139018416712-e1558428998709.jpg?w=1024&h=626


[22-May-19 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I looked at his views and he seems like a more liberal Republican tbh


[22-May-19 10:31 PM] Mikey#7286
Technically he's libertarian though


[22-May-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/furry-alt-right-russia-fandom_n_5aba4741e4b054d118e70e7d

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Alt-Right Furries Are Raging Online, And Leftist Furries Wonder Wh...
Like America at large, furry culture is a community divided.
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[22-May-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have had just about enough of this timeline


[23-May-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[23-May-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also agree on the timeline, can we have the timeline where dirk gently wasn't cancelled?


[23-May-19 12:13 AM] Mikey#7286
Can we have a timeline where Metroid other M doesn't exist

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[23-May-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wish granted, you now live in the universe of other M because they didnt have other M to warn them that this would happen


[23-May-19 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[23-May-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other M was a warning from the future clearly


[23-May-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a badly acted warnign from the future about future earth and how dumb it will get


[23-May-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[23-May-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, that joke failed


[23-May-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
furry politics is getting weird though


[23-May-19 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
If other m didn't exist we might have more good metroids right now lol


[23-May-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true that


[23-May-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope prime 4 get's more news soon


[23-May-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still havent played the other 3


[23-May-19 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
We won't get more for a few years


[23-May-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be the switch's final game


[23-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Most likely


[23-May-19 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
And sell poorly as a result......


[23-May-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the metroid game after that will star kraid for no real reason


[23-May-19 12:47 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[23-May-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/05/22/facebook-instagram-twitter-do-more-harm-than-good-column/3751735002/

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Facebook, Instagram and Twitter are parasites. Maybe they should d...
Facebook is an addictive digital drug that hurts its users. Researchers even suspect social media of contributing to a surge in attempted suicide.
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[23-May-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"As for what social media adds to our economy, consider this: high salaries and stock options have encouraged a generation of our brightest engineers to enter a field of little productive value. This is, to put it mildly, an opportunity missed for the nation.

What marvels might these bright minds have produced had they been oriented toward the common good? What new treatments or therapies or technologies to strengthen our people might they have discovered?

Instead, they’ve given us an addiction economy."


[23-May-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does this guy think a coder would have gone into cancer research without social media existing?


[23-May-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also worth noting this senator went from "Conservatives are threatened on social media" to "The government should regulate social media to protect conservatives" to "Social media shouldn't exist."


[23-May-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
The coder would have gone into making people redundant in fields that already exist


[23-May-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
My job is to remove your job


[23-May-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Republicans are REAL MAD that these social media platforms are having a hard time telling the difference between them and nazis


[23-May-19 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which, to be fair, so are most people day by day


[23-May-19 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's really amazing how having a half black president lead to the complete implosion of the GOP over the course of like two years


[23-May-19 03:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Perhaps the problem is not the social media algorithms but the US Republican party aligning itself with policies advocated by Nazis on the internet?


[23-May-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah...


[23-May-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*insert principle skinner meme here*


[23-May-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley is trying to say "omg kids kill themselves because of Twitter and people should be making cancer cures instead" as a cover for that @Teaspoon


[23-May-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What a surprise that the compulsive liar lies again


[23-May-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-May-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
w-what...?


[23-May-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this tweet is trying to communicate and i canlt understand what it;s saying


[23-May-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy shit how much of a special snowflake can you be


[23-May-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon "boner culture" is now a thing


[23-May-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god, that entire twitter


[23-May-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like a rebellious 14yo just found out about "the libs" or whatever


[23-May-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But you know the dude running it is in his mid 30s


[23-May-19 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/05/arkansas-educational-tv-bans-arthurs-gay-wedding-episode/84709/

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Joining Alabama Public Television in banning the gay wedding episode of PBS’ Arthur is the Arkansas Educational Television network. The...
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[23-May-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The comments on the actual "article" are indistinguishable from something you'd see on breitbart


[23-May-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except for more anime avatars


[23-May-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Rick Wilson's comments on the alt right ring true evermore


[23-May-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
[They are] single childless men who masturbate to anime [...] and have Hitler iconography on their Twitter feeds


[23-May-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't believe he fucking said that on live TV lmao


[23-May-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/_tj-Hp7AYlk

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Rick Wilson MSNBC Trump's Fans Are Childless Single Men Who Mastur...
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[23-May-19 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon The people who are deadly serious about anime waifus are amusing to me


[23-May-19 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/71550261a988406a8c712742549b1ea0

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3 minutes: Trump meeting with Democrats goes bust in a flash
WASHINGTON (AP) — The curtains in the Cabinet Room were drawn. The Democrats were waiting. And President Donald Trump came and went in three minutes, never stopping to sit down or shake...
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[23-May-19 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/abf4b46fcb07477d9871ad56df45b3ca

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Trump stalks out on Democrats, demands end of investigations
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump abruptly stalked out of a White House meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday, flatly declaring he would no longer work with Democrats unless they...
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[23-May-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just Charles I it already


[23-May-19 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're going to need a guillotine and 2 cannons just to be sure


[23-May-19 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trebuchets could also work in place of cannons


[23-May-19 06:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we just need a way to launch the body and the head miles away from eahcother in seperate directions, so he can't lich his way out of this


[23-May-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant him trying to arrest members of Parliament and he was rebuffed and dropped his spaghetti everywhere


[23-May-19 06:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[23-May-19 06:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought you meant the execution bit


[23-May-19 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_of_England i have the right monarch right?

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[23-May-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[23-May-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To this day the Queen hires someone whose job it is basically to get the House of Commons' door slammed in his face once a year


[23-May-19 06:08 AM] Mikey#7286
what a fucking man baby


[23-May-19 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wore two undershirts to his execution because he didn't want people to think him shivering in the cold was him being fearful


[23-May-19 06:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-76-the-anti-war-rebranding-of-rhodes-and-power-and-the-moral-hazard-of-faux-mea-culpas

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[23-May-19 10:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/EByMFw3

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Why is China so ruthless?
https://i.imgur.com/GGZAdWeh.jpg


[23-May-19 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that there isn't a single totalitarian country in history that wasn't shitty in one way or another


[23-May-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-May-19 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
>socialistic


[23-May-19 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-May-19 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
baking cakes is freeze peach


[23-May-19 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
🍰❄🍑


[23-May-19 07:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cawing caws is freeze pecawch

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[23-May-19 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://toshitimes.com/china-starts-debt-shaming-new-app-reveals-people-with-debt-around-you/

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China Starts "Debt Shaming" - New App Reveals People With Debt Aro...
WeChat, one of the most used apps in China, launches a new feature that will target people in debt. China releases a new application Debtors in North China’s Hebei province will find it a lot more difficult to keep their debt personal, according to China Daily. WeChat relea...
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[23-May-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“The White House is just crying out for impeachment,” Pelosi said at a news conference. “That’s why he flipped yesterday.”


[23-May-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"gr8 b8 m8 I r8 it an 8"- Nancy Pelosi


[23-May-19 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-May-19 09:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
R E A D   M A R K   F I S C H E R   T I M E


[23-May-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/DanEggenWPost/status/1131346967089565696

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Trump notes captured by @jabinbotsford: 
“They want to impeach me over acts that they did”
“Dems have no achomlishments [sic]”
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[23-May-19 10:30 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/civicdec/status/1131389628127354882

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@DanEggenWPost @KevinMKruse @jabinbotsford Judge a man not by his  spelling but by his  achomlishments
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[23-May-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats don't want to bite bait.


[23-May-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-documents-reveal-desire-sow-racial-discord-violence-u-s-n1008051

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Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord — and viol...
The revelations come as U.S. intelligence agencies have warned of probable Russian meddling in the 2020 election.
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[23-May-19 10:42 PM] Mikey#7286
🤔


[23-May-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
I refuse to believe it is anything but a epic fucking prank


[23-May-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim


[23-May-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-May-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
Press 🇫 for India

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[23-May-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/assange-indictment.html

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By CHARLIE SAVAGE and ADAM GOLDMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/assange-indictment.html
Assange Indicted Under Espionage Act, Raising First Amendment Issues
The WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange faces 17 new counts in a superseding indictment over his role in publishing classified documents in 2010.
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[23-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
>Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks leader, has been indicted on 17 new counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in publishing classified military and diplomatic documents in 2010, the Justice Department announced on Thursday — a novel case that raises profound First Amendment issues.


[23-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
>The Justice Department’s decision to pursue Espionage Act charges signals a dramatic escalation under President Trump to crack down on leaks of classified information and aims squarely at First Amendment protections for journalists. Most recently, law enforcement officials charged a former intelligence analyst with giving classified documents to The Intercept, a national security news website.


[23-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
>Legal scholars believe that prosecuting reporters over their work would violate the First Amendment, but the prospect has not yet been tested in court because the government had never charged a journalist under the Espionage Act.


[23-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
for good fucking reason, I'd say


[23-May-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason it's happening now is because trump is unhinged


[23-May-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
>Though he is not a conventional journalist, much of what Mr. Assange does at WikiLeaks is difficult to distinguish in a legally meaningful way from what traditional news organizations like The New York Times do: seek and publish information that officials want to be secret, including classified national security matters, and take steps to protect the confidentiality of sources.


[23-May-19 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Government transparency is a fickle issue


[23-May-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the one hand, transparency is virtuous for knowing where your tax money is going, for example


[23-May-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
>The Obama administration considered charging Mr. Assange under the Espionage Act but never did out of concerns that such a case could chill traditional journalism.


[23-May-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the other hand, states go to war with each other, and secrecy is many times crucial for war, and not only that, but also subterfuge and other acts of aggression


[23-May-19 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The ideal scenario would be for every state of enough weight in the international system to mutually agree to lay down their arms and arms making capabilities and engage in purely peaceful relations from there on in, but that is a very tall order


[23-May-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Until that day doesn't come, CIA and other organizations still stand, i'm afraid


[24-May-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2c23a62730ef44c9bd674117a8224b3f

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Trump considering loophole for Saudi arms sale
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is considering an emergency declaration that would allow it to make an arms shipment to Saudi Arabia without the approval of Congress, two U.S. officials...
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[24-May-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[24-May-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The Trump administration is considering an emergency declaration that would allow it to make an arms shipment to Saudi Arabia without the approval of Congress, two U.S. officials and lawmakers opposed to the move said Thursday.

The officials say a decision on invoking a national security waiver in the Arms Export Control Act to bypass congressional review of proposed sales to the Saudis could be made as early as Friday. The officials were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

It was not immediately clear what sales would be covered by the possible waiver, which could allow previously blocked weapons transfers to move forward or be applied to new ones. A sale of precision-guided munitions to Saudi Arabia has been on hold for over a year.


[24-May-19 01:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>without the approval of Congress


[24-May-19 01:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*UM*


[24-May-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's considering the exact same shit he pulled to get his "wall" funded


[24-May-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/22/transgender-homeless-protections-discrimination-hud-proposal/1199509001/

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Homeless shelters could deny transgender people under proposed Tru...
A Trump administration proposal could allow federally-funded homeless shelters to deny services to transgender people.
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[24-May-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-May-19 03:36 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[24-May-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel the guy is having a meltdown and has a meme ready to go when people call him a pedo


[24-May-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-19 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess the boner culture people haven't heard the news about Crash yet


[24-May-19 04:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone should invent a vaccine against vaccines that requires a series of injections. (It is just a bunch or regular vaccines but they are called anti-vaccines for the diseases.)


[24-May-19 04:51 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1131742479538098182?s=21

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FBI refuses to search text messages under FOIA. Director Wray needs to step up and stop this stonewalling that protects corrupt former FBI officials Comey. McCabe, Page, Strzok.... https://t.co/lgLhHpoEjS
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[24-May-19 04:55 AM] Plonkett#6636
here's how i look at the political spectrum


[24-May-19 04:55 AM] Plonkett#6636
there's far left, center left, center, center right, and far right


[24-May-19 04:56 AM] Plonkett#6636
far left includes ANTIFA, socialists, marxists, and communists


[24-May-19 04:56 AM] Plonkett#6636
center left includes social democrats, greens, social liberals, and moderate progressives


[24-May-19 04:57 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/tpusa/status/1131012017274286080?s=21

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SPEAKER ANNOUNCEMENT!

Fox News Contributor @LisaMarieBooth Has Just Been Added To Our AMAZING Line-Up Of Speakers For #YWLS2019 !

We CAN'T WAIT To See You There!

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[24-May-19 04:58 AM] Plonkett#6636
there's two types of centrists, moderate centrists and radial centrists. moderate centrists would be considered to have ideas from both center left and center right. radical centrists would include third way democrats like Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden


[24-May-19 04:58 AM] Plonkett#6636
center right includes libertarians, classical liberals, and moderate conservatives


[24-May-19 04:59 AM] Plonkett#6636
far right includes KKK, neo fascists, neo nazis, and televangelists


[24-May-19 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-19 06:35 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[24-May-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
burning joint usa


[24-May-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hang on, has anyone mentioned Trump's comments on "the" meeting that he made in the rose garden today


[24-May-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's memory suddenly reasserted itself in defense of himself and his son, which is a *problem* because he told Mueller he didn't know anything about the meeting or talk to Don Jr


[24-May-19 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure his lawyers will try and find a way to walk back those statements, but this seems like it's more than 90% guaranteed to be exactly the perjury trap they were trying to avoid


[24-May-19 06:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7rnzN2Ri_s

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Socialism Or Barbarism!
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GAMER DEATH SQUADS
Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D88WZFKMMUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13uT6HF2m5k
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[24-May-19 10:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Asians love PUBG:mobile India has banned the game.


[24-May-19 11:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[24-May-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c20ba627fe4c4c38a45246e4df5ffb8a

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NKorea says talks won't resume unless US changes position
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Friday that nuclear negotiations with the United States will never resume unless the Trump administration moves away from what Pyongyang described as...
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[24-May-19 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"These talks to denuclearize us won;t resume unless you stop asking that we get rid of our nukes!"


[24-May-19 01:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What do they think the goal of denuclearization talks is? More nukes?


[24-May-19 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well their goal seems to be to mind fuck the president


[24-May-19 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f12ab4617fb94910ade2a96040f88dd1

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Seeking affirmation: Trump has aides vouch he's 'very calm'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Sometimes even the president of the United States needs somebody to vouch for him. No, Trump insisted Thursday, he did not have a temper tantrum a day earlier when he cut...
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[24-May-19 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I ordered these unpaid interns to tell you that i did not have that tantrum"


[24-May-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-denounces-mueller-investigation-democrats-during-appearance-white-house-rose-n1008851

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'I don't do cover-ups': Trump denounces Democratic investigations ...
"I don't do cover-ups," the president said, responding to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comments earlier.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_21/2866641/190522-donald-trump-cs-1213p_05ed2039a8ee743e24eaac87fd5300be.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-May-19 02:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I like how he replaced the second half of that ABC infographic (detailing the convictions) with "No obstruction, no collusion"


[24-May-19 02:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
mhm sure buddi


[24-May-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just waiting for the inevitable meltdown


[24-May-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I don;t do cover ups! I do the best cover ups about not doingcover ups! I don;t do cover ups!"


[24-May-19 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-102-million-taxpayers_n_5ce46727e4b09b23e65a01bb

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Trump’s Golf Costs: $102 Million And Counting, With Taxpayers Pi...
Trump promised never to golf. Instead, he's spent more than twice as many days golfing as Obama at the same point, costing taxpayers over three times as ...
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[24-May-19 03:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It was 100, now 102?


[24-May-19 03:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is the breakdown on costs for this?


[24-May-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the previous article i posted said over 100, thne linked to this article inside, so i removed that and just used the article they linked to instead


[24-May-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically this accounts for cost of security, days spent, thefact that every trip he takes results in him funneling tax payer cash into his own golf properties, the cost of a room, golf rounds, food, and other such ammenities within his businesses, and other such thing


[24-May-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing it doesnt account for is flight cost


[24-May-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump reneged on that pledge within two weeks, when he took his first of 24 trips to date to Mar-a-Lago. He has, according to HuffPost’s analysis, spent a total of 61 days on his Florida courses, 58 at Bedminster in New Jersey, one at Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles and two at Trump Turnberry.

Wednesday is the 853rd day of his presidency, and Trump has spent 174 of them at one of his own golf courses. He spent one additional day golfing: Nov. 5, 2017, at the Kasumigaseki Country Club outside Tokyo with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. It is the only time thus far that he has played golf at a course he does not own.


[24-May-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-May-19 03:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The stuff he is using is way over overpriced and does not know/cares about it.


[24-May-19 03:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
Curious why so many presidents golf. Is it mandated for attempted sanity refreshing?


[24-May-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump likely does it to embezzle tax payer funds into his own pockets the legal way around


[24-May-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not really sure why rich people like golf so much


[24-May-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it seems to be a status thing


[24-May-19 03:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Must be the same way why girls want jewellery with diamonds


[24-May-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he likely chooses the msot expensive options at his resorts that he can to embezzle as much cash as possible


[24-May-19 03:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
But gold isn’t really a status unlike jewelry


[24-May-19 03:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
Golf*


[24-May-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm rich enough to afford a round on a million dollar golf course"


[24-May-19 03:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless it is a place for mingling with world's elites.


[24-May-19 03:36 PM] ISamusI#5581
Just feel good for the owners of said golf course


[24-May-19 03:36 PM] ISamusI#5581
Must*


[24-May-19 03:36 PM] ISamusI#5581
Tired of phone typing.


[24-May-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt need to accept his presidential paychecks, he just goes golfing for a weekend and suddenly he's paid himself thousands


[24-May-19 04:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Conspicuous consumption, golf is an expensive hobby, not just the equipment but the best courses and they require a lot of maintenance it's like waving around your wallet to show off how fat it is


[24-May-19 04:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Way back when lawns used to be a display of wealth, you could afford to have land doing nothing, it's along those lines


[24-May-19 04:16 PM] Honahue#0656
A golf trip to a pretty basic course can run over a hundred dollars so if you can golf at the best courses every week clearly you have good income


[24-May-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
"Mini" golf > "normal" golf


[24-May-19 05:10 PM] ISamusI#5581
“Big” golf >


[24-May-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like this should fall under some form of embezzlement law, but it somehow doesnt?


[24-May-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
a lot of the laws about politicians doing shitty things to make money have been either curtailed or removed


[24-May-19 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/24/theresa-may-steps-down-resigns-tory-leader-conservative-brexit?

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Theresa May announces she will resign on 7 June
Prime minister to leave Downing Street, drawing three-year tenure to a close
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[24-May-19 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
finally, some good fucking news


[24-May-19 06:02 PM] Crow#5457
took her long enough


[24-May-19 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finally


[24-May-19 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362943031701274625/581447847015350285/1496850709139.png

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[24-May-19 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/thousands-immigrants-suffer-solitary-confinement-u-s-detention-centers-n1007881

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Thousands of immigrants suffer in solitary confinement in U.S. jails
Newly obtained documents show that ICE detainees are sometimes placed in solitary for reasons that have nothing to do with rule violations.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_20/2862886/190519-adelanto-detention-facility-cs-1206p_8b2ea7faff312df313f194e656cad5f3.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[24-May-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/23/726349559/botswana-lifts-its-ban-on-elephant-hunting

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Botswana Lifts Its Ban On Elephant Hunting
Fewer than 400 licenses will be granted annually, the government of Botswana said Thursday. Conservationists are decrying the decision as horrific and unethical.
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[24-May-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/191-billion-in-nationwide-disaster-aid-stalls-in-house-after-single-republican-objects/2019/05/24/76a926ca-7e30-11e9-8ede-f4abf521ef17_story.html


[24-May-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
>A House Republican lawmaker blocked a $19.1 billion disaster aid package on Friday, delaying a bill that would send federal funding to disaster-affected areas across the country.
>Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) voted to block the legislation, which has the support of President Trump and passed the Senate on Thursday.
>Roy said he was objecting to the bill because it would add to the country’s debt, as well as because it left out $4.4 billion in additional spending for federal operations along the U.S.-Mexico border.


[24-May-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
>Only one vote was needed to defeat the motion because House leaders were attempting to pass the measure by unanimous consent. Most House lawmakers left town on Thursday before Senate negotiators announced they’d reached a disaster aid deal, making a full vote impossible without recalling lawmakers.


[24-May-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
also, it seems washington post realized how easily defeated their paywall was by umatrix, so now they've put the paywall script into the rest of their scripts


[24-May-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
I can still read the full article by blocking scripts, but can't view comments


[24-May-19 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
it's literally called "pwapi.washingtonpost.com" lol


[24-May-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
try paying for a subscription


[24-May-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[24-May-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
we live in a cawciety


[24-May-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[24-May-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
the point of subscriptions is to combat yellow journalism


[24-May-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/445375-george-conway-pelosi-is-playing-trump-like-a-drum

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George Conway: Pelosi is playing Trump 'like a drum'
Lawyer George Conway on Friday once again took aim at President Trump, tweeting that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is “playing him like a drum.”
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[24-May-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's just not biting bait.


[24-May-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
trump isn't even a master baiter


[24-May-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I see Botswana is taking the Montana wolf approach


[24-May-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
he's just a baiter


[24-May-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
incognito mode works still


[24-May-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that I just wouldn't read washington post if there was no way to read it for free, I know they're selling my views for revenue already


[24-May-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
as soon as an endangered species starts to rebound, and people realize that actually, it can't quite coexist with humans raping the earth for their own purposes, you giv a bunch of people hunting licenses so their vengeance for the animal fighting their cattle-raising etc. can be official


[24-May-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you can also buy a paper subscription


[24-May-19 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://qz.com/583822/reagan-to-thatcher-read-a-tom-clancy-thriller-to-understand-the-soviet-union/

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Reagan to Thatcher: Read a Tom Clancy thriller to understand the S...
"He had clearly been much impressed by the book."
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[24-May-19 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[24-May-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then all the retarded farmers/ranchers love you because you gave them their vengeance, and those conservationalists who are talking about things maybe 50 years away are crying, but in 50 years you'll be dead, so fukk the planet


[24-May-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The more we find out about Reagan, the more we realize he was similar to Trump, tbh


[24-May-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey maybe


[24-May-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't build a ranch in wolf country


[24-May-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what happened, Its


[24-May-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
was they killed the wolves to make wolf country ranch country


[24-May-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
then the wolves basically went extinct


[24-May-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
then the endangered species act came along


[24-May-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
wolves rebounded in what was now ranch country


[24-May-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, there isn't room for both humans being FUKKING SAKKS OF SHIT and animals being, you know, animals


[24-May-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Livestokk are 60% of all mammals on the planet


[24-May-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Humans are 36%


[24-May-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Livestokk are a massive waste of resources


[24-May-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should be illegal.


[24-May-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't used to be, I don't think that humanity would've been able to survive without livestock


[24-May-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
it can now, of course


[24-May-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
but thousands of years ago, unlikely


[24-May-19 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I recently went to a simposium on environmental rpotection legislation, and the dude, casually, one time, mentioned that, for every liter of milk, ten liters of water are required to make it


[24-May-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Livestokk were used primarily for 2 things:


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
1 Turn unfarmable grasslands into food


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
2 Make sure the rich can eat better than the poor


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*huff* *wheeze* DESPITE ONLY REPRESENTING 36% OF THE MAMMALIAN POPULATION


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Water usage isn't a big deal, water is easy to get


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
so you're saying that farmers didn't eat their own produce? that doesn't sound right


[24-May-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
land however, land is a huge deal.


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, you mean for livestokk?


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't put livestokk on the same ground as the farms


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly I was reading one of Paine's later pamphlets


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Livestokk eat things humans can't


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is that you turn vast grasses into meat


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was completely against owning land itself


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
people who care for livestock aren't farmers?


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Potatos changed things somewhat in that they can be grown basically anywhere.


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And said if it happens you need to pay the community back for it


[24-May-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, they aren't the same thing


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
RANCHERS do livestokk


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
FARMERS do farms


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
they often overlap


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
but not always


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think ranchers were ever considered "rich"


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they were not


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they fed the rich


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow you must realize


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
for most of human history


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
the people growing the food


[24-May-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
were not the first to eat it


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
because someone with a big sword would murder them all if they tried.


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It takes a lot of processing to turn cows and wheat into food


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
potatos again are unusual, they can be eaten raw


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.historyonthenet.com/medieval-food

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Medieval Food: From Peasant Porridge to King's Mutton - History
Medieval food was often plain due to scarcity of resources and limited trade, but on celebratory occasions the food could become decadent.
https://www.historyonthenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/lordstable.jpg


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure people in the steppe were an exeption


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
>Peasants did not eat much meat. Many kept a pig or two but could not often afford to kill one. They could hunt rabbits or hares but might be punished for this by their lord.


[24-May-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
what were pigs used for, milk?


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pigs were for lard


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which was useful for cooking


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you raise a pig cause it'll eat just about anything


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
then sell it to someone who can afford butchering


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
>The difference in medieval food consumed between peasants and lords can even be seen in the food vocabulary of English today. The lowered status of the defeated English after the French Norman Conquest of 1066 can be seen clearly in the vocabulary of meat. An Anglophone farmer used plain Saxon words for his livestock: cow, pig, sheep, chicken. Any animal eaten by a peasant had the same word used for whether the animal was alive or cooked.


[24-May-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
>But when these animals were butchered and found their way onto his Norman master’s plate, they acquired French-derived names: beef, pork, mutton.


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, butchering is hard


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making wheat into flour doesn't take near as much skill, but requires a LOT of manual labor


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
it doesn't seem hard to me, just kinda drawn out


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
these were peasants


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
who couldn't fukking read or write


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
who probably had half the vocabulary you do at best


[24-May-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
butchers in the 11th century didn't have electric bone saws


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
who were constantly riddled by diseases


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
>who probably had half the vocabulary you do at best\


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
lol


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
kill the animal, hang it up to bleed out


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many at your age wouldn't hav a full set of teeth


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
but yeah butchering is not so easy


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need to do a LOT more than that


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's step 1


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
especially if you don't want to waste a lot


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
I know that


[24-May-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The steps to successfully get all the bits of meat stored away properly are not straightforward


[24-May-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'd need to be taught it as a child


[24-May-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause again


[24-May-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
average peasant would be waaaaaay dumber than you are


[24-May-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And these were societies where your job would often be determined very early in life


[24-May-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Teaching you to butcher a pig would not really be on the plate if you were supposed to be a farmer or baker or such


[24-May-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even if it was, they might teach you wrong and you end up giving people food poisoning.


[24-May-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I guess in terms of material possessions necessary to carve meat, the knives and saws would be the most expensive


[24-May-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause different parts of the animal spoil at different rates.


[24-May-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you'd need to know precisely how to use those knives and saws.


[24-May-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/23/colorado-insulin-price-cap/

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Colorado becomes first state in nation to cap price of insulin
Diabetics in Colorado who use insulin to control their blood sugar levels won’t pay more than $100 per month for the drug starting in January thanks to a bill signed into law by Gov. Jared Po…
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[24-May-19 08:13 PM] ononim#8141
>average peasant would be waaaaaay dumber than you are


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
neb do you ever read what you write


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
they didn't have calculus in the 11th century either


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
also good on colorado


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and the simple fact is that peasants did not hav sufficient diets for mental development on par with the average person today.


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I was gonna say that you don't really need to read or write to have a physical skill


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nutrient deficiency causes problems in development.


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
or know that stabbing something kills it


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] ononim#8141
"hm those poor people who are stratified by society without access to education, those dumb hoicks lol"


[24-May-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the less you know growing up, the dumber you tend to be.


[24-May-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
(just knowing a second language is a huge development boost)


[24-May-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not BLAMING them


[24-May-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just you must realize stratification has *physical* effects.


[24-May-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Significant ones.


[24-May-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thruout most of human history, the lower classes were barely able to function.


[24-May-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is part of why that stratification tends to keep itself going, cause the higher classes then misattribute the problems of the lower classes to intrinsic qualities instead of their environment.


[24-May-19 08:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conclusion: black people have lower average IQ's due to being poor? That's a rather dangerous statement


[24-May-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
how is that dangerous?


[24-May-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In case you forgot


[24-May-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was a case that came to the Supreme Court about that


[24-May-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
an IQ test for firefighters had all the blakk people that tried it fail


[24-May-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the IQ test itself wasn't racially biased


[24-May-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that the blakk people in the area were poor as fukk


[24-May-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
so none of them got good educations and a lot probably didn't eat well growing up, and were under constant stress


[24-May-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
that's literally what jim crow was about, keeping black people poor


[24-May-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bad conditions DO lead to people being dumber


[24-May-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you always start with the kids when you want to eliminate disparities


[24-May-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, it's proven that IQ fluctuates as a result of numerous factors, though, such as living with a "smarter" person, being better fed, etc.


[24-May-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
For sure, but being poor means you get the worst of everything


[24-May-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
you liv with dumb people, are fed worse, are under constant stress, internalize a belief of inferiority (one of the key reasons SCOTUS canned segregated education btw), and ultimately end up unable to pull yourself up by your bootstraps like Republicans insist blakk people should (and use as a reason to hate them)


[24-May-19 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fine.


[24-May-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't just take someone who already grew up, put them in a richer position, and expect them to become just like the others that grew up in that position from the start.


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
can't pull yourself up by the bootstraps if you don't have bootstraps to pull yourself up with


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brain development mostly happens by 15 and is basically done at 25


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
iirc, that's why poor people who win the lottery tend to squander the money quickly


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or donate it en masse


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's related, yes


[24-May-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
being poor creates an impetus to be not poor


[24-May-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
but this leads to trying too hard on the matter and taking risks, rather than playing it safe and steady


[24-May-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
and often manifests in making yourself *appear* rich rather than actually improving your situation


[24-May-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The end result is that poor people waste their money on appearances and failed gambles and end up bakk to square one.


[24-May-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
While rich people often hav everything all planned out and could stay rich indefinitely


[24-May-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, being poor creates extra expenses


[24-May-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worst being homeless, where getting a hot meal can mean being charged more tax (many states hav hot food taxes) or having to waste money on a portable stove that costs way more than a home oven


[24-May-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The stability of a home provides a lot of cost savings over time.


[24-May-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to go bakk to the original point


[24-May-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow peasant farmers and ranchers had little to no control over what happened to their actual product


[24-May-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were the people that the local lord would hand a sword and be told they must go off to war or be executed.


[24-May-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they disagreed about where their wheat went...also execution.


[24-May-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The lord could just find some other poor sap to farm the land, and nobody would really care about that particular farmer being gone.


[24-May-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
that's probably why peasants started killing lords after the renaissance once they realized that lords weren't special


[24-May-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, in a system like that, if the lower classes start getting more education/food etc. and become smarter, they become more able to stop their oppression


[24-May-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the worst moves you can make in a dictatorship is to enact reforms that benefit the peasants


[24-May-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
keeping them crushed and starving is what keeps them from being able to rebel


[24-May-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in the middle ages, even if the local lord was kind, often another nearby one would giv swords to his peasants, hav some knights lead them, and fukk up the kind lord's farms.


[24-May-19 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lone-gop-rep-blocks-disaster-aid-bill-in-surprise-move

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Lone GOP rep blocks disaster aid bill in surprise move
A lone Republican congressman single-handedly stalled a $19 billion disaster aid bill that lawmakers had expected to pass before the Memorial Day weekend.
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[24-May-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he'd want all that wheat for himself, and nobody cares if peasants die.


[24-May-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
"because it costs too much" was his reasoning

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[24-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
linked an article about it like 30 minutes ago lol


[24-May-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
basically, no one was expecting someone to disagree with this thing


[24-May-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Railing against the "swamp," Roy objected to speeding the measure through a nearly-empty chamber, complained it wasn't paid for and challenged a decision not to include President Trump's $4.5 billion request for dealing with the migrant crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border.'


[24-May-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
What a fukking shill


[24-May-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The massive tax cut for the rich wasn't paid for either


[24-May-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's a "swamp" to provide disaster aid


[24-May-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And oh no we provided aid relief without also funding a super-unpopular thing we don't need, how dare.


[24-May-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"How dare this bill not fund my completely unrelated stupid project on the side!"


[24-May-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans at this point know their base doesn't think logically


[24-May-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can make any excuse they want to further outright racist and insane policies


[24-May-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause that's what the racist and insane base wants


[24-May-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
I made my mom incredibly uncomfortable a few days ago by saying that she could manage money better than trump (I told her about trump losing $1 billion dollars in 10 years, and she said that she could've lived comfortably her entire life on just a million dollars in an attempt to "defend millionaires")


[24-May-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
she's always been incredibly good at managing money


[24-May-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
she doesn't seem to be willing to accept that she might actually be better than trump at something he's "famous" for


[24-May-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The cognitive dissonance grinds on.


[24-May-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
she also can't take the logic that because norway isn't socialist that I'm also not a socialist because I want what norway wants


[24-May-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1131911083801960448

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[24-May-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
I just say that every time she calls me a socialist now


[24-May-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is he ok


[24-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
and she's just completely unable to respond to that anymore for some reason


[24-May-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/10044ee6ce494283ba4c2e7f86f7b650

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Trump sends 1,500 troops to Middle East amid Iran tensions
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. will bolster its military presence in the Middle East with an additional 1,500 troops, President Donald Trump said Friday amid heightened tensions with Iran. Trump...
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[24-May-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1a68c31f2cb54b15af536cbe168442bf

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CEOs get $800,000 pay raise, leaving workers further behind
NEW YORK (AP) — Did you get a 7% raise last year? Congratulations, yours was in line with what CEOs at the biggest companies got. But for chief executives, that 7% was roughly $800,000. Pay...
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[24-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
she seems utterly convinced that norway isn't socialist, but is also utterly convinced that they're "moving back" towards "freer markets" despite there being no evidence of it happening


[24-May-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rejection of reality


[24-May-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
If she accepts somewhere is socialist, and that it's okay at being so, and staying that way


[24-May-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
she accepts socialism as a concept


[24-May-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because her worldview is based on socialism being unworkable, a myth


[24-May-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most US conservatism is based on such


[24-May-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
actually seeing socialism work breaks them.


[24-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
she thinks the only socialism that exists is stalinism


[24-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
basically


[24-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
I bring up that norway is technically more "socialist" than venezuela ever was


[24-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
at every given chance when she goes on her political rants


[24-May-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/445311-fake-videos-spread-on-social-media-edited-to-make-pelosi-appear-drunk

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Fake videos edited to make Pelosi appear drunk spread on social media
Deceptively edited videos altered to make Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) appear to be drunkenly slurring her words are spreading across social media despite attempts by platforms to halt their dissemination,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_052319as3_lead.jpg


[24-May-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
"When you can't run on principles and values... the GOP fakes videos."


[24-May-19 08:49 PM] Mikey#7286
but neb Venezuela is socialist!


[24-May-19 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404141

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US to send 1,500 troops to Middle East
The deployment is a response to the "ongoing threat" posed by Iran, the acting defence secretary says.
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[24-May-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't said this in forever, but boom boom deathy time soon?


[24-May-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
what the actual fuck https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-says-ohio-and-michigan-do-not-have-to-come-up-with-new-maps-immediately/2019/05/24/47a653f0-7bee-11e9-8bb7-0fc796cf2ec0_story.html


[24-May-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[24-May-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
>The Supreme Court on Friday put on hold lower-court decisions that said Ohio and Michigan had to come up with new electoral maps because of unconstitutional partisan gerrymandering.


[24-May-19 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
"it's okay, you don't actually have to replace your gerrymandered maps"


[24-May-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-temporarily-blocks-rulings-requiring-new-voting-maps-ohio-n1010146

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Supreme Court temporarily blocks rulings requiring new voting maps...
Lower courts had invalidated the GOP-friendly maps as partisan gerrymanders and ordered them redrawn before the 2020 election.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_21/2870531/190524-gerrymandering-protest-ew-306p_b8a81aef98d6f85305b72c4e64ff0419.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-May-19 10:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The next leader of the UK? http://i.imgur.com/CFmbjDY.jpg

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PsBattle: Boris Johnson having fun
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[24-May-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/24/18637163/trump-pelosi-democrats-bills-congress

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Democrats in Congress are getting things done. Trump and Republica...
House Democrats are passing bills at a rapid pace, while Trump complains they’re "getting nothing done."
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[24-May-19 10:47 PM] Mikey#7286
Mitch blocking everything the dems do? what a shocker!


[24-May-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-administration-rolls-back-obama-era-health-care-protections-transgender-n1009851

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Trump administration rolls back Obama-era health care protections ...
Rights groups denounced the move as a license to discriminate against LGBTQ Americans.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_21/2869896/190524-transgender-white-house-mn-1115_5316504a610db77182797b15d999473a.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-May-19 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
>The Health and Human Services Department's proposed new rule, released Friday, says in effect that federal laws banning sex discrimination in health care don’t apply to people's "gender identity." The proposed rule from HHS reverses President Barack Obama's administration, which found that the Affordable Care Act’s anti-discrimination section does indeed protect transgender people seeking health care services.


[24-May-19 10:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdbwZbK7kGo

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Thought Slime
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Stonetoss & How Hate Speech Spreads
Today we take a deep dive in the extremely hateful webcomic Stonetoss and it's progenitor Redpanels. We unpack how hate-speech has to disguise itself in the ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XdbwZbK7kGo/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-May-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fun.


[24-May-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, this likely is intended by SCOTUS to roll all the cases into one


[24-May-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that they aren't left with a deadline problem where something is done in June that they then don't quite agree with a week or two later.


[24-May-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Still, I really hope they take action fast cause 2020 isn't getting any further away.


[24-May-19 10:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is that ultimately a good thing or a bad thing? Kinda sounds like a good thing in the long run *if* that decision isn't "yeah ok these maps don't have problems"


[24-May-19 10:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or if they wait until it's literally too late to update voter registration before the election


[24-May-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Difficult to say, but probably a bad thing, Wing


[24-May-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS every time in the past has ruled that there's no valid test for gerrymandering


[24-May-19 11:00 PM] Mikey#7286
well for one Mitch needs to be removed from office next year


[24-May-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their stance has been, effectively, that intentionally effectively disenfranchising the other party *is* unconstitutional, but that they can only accept a particular instance being so if the test used to find it would never ever throw out a map that isn't outright horrible.


[24-May-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gerrymandering doesn't affect the senate.


[24-May-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
only the house


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump may get reelected but if the dems were able to flip the house they can flip the senate, too


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the case


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
they didn't win last year but they still flipped a lot of seats


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Mikey#7286
oh


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate is a different game than The House


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was a massive blue wave in 2018


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why The House flipped


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but practically no Republicans were up for reelection


[24-May-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
in the Senate


[24-May-19 11:02 PM] Mikey#7286
well congress has no term limits either


[24-May-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk nice will have to watch


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
👍


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Term limits or lack thereof isn't the problem


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
In fact you need experienced congressmen


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok no, Stonetoss is not Redpanels


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
The problem is the revolving door


[24-May-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just starting out there that's an issue


[24-May-19 11:05 PM] Mikey#7286
mitch is definitely campaigning for reelection next year but he needs to be booted


[24-May-19 11:05 PM] Mikey#7286
congress needs term limits so people like mcconnel don't keep getting reelected


[24-May-19 11:06 PM] Mikey#7286
everything else has term limits except for the SCOTUS


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
That is likely to make things worse, not better


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] Mikey#7286
well plenty of inexperienced people become president


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits increase a party's power


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] Mikey#7286
we have one right now


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Terms increase the effect of special interests


[24-May-19 11:07 PM] Mikey#7286
should we ditch presidential term limits, too?


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
yes it does


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it really doesn't


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
they're all positions of power


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
almost nobody would survive a third term


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
being in power and being on top makes you a huge target


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
you lose popularity and political power over time


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
so why shouldn't congress have them as well?


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk mostly good so far


[24-May-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
congress has arguably more power than the president


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a senator is different


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're not a big singular target in the media like the president


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
thus you can retain political influence


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not degrade in ability with each term


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
you instead grow in ability with each term by seniority stuff


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
i guess mitch will just keep being re-elected then


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits aren't the problem that creates monsters like Mitch


[24-May-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
the party system is


[24-May-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Special interests control who wins the election, who can even compete


[24-May-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Party primaries are basically nothing but a way to screen who can be a candidate


[24-May-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
and because our election campaigns are like a FUKKING YEAR AND A HALF LONG


[24-May-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
it means that only the rich can compete


[24-May-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
with bakking from other rich people too


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Mikey#7286
then we should remove money from elections


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want people who aren't bound by big coal and big pharma etc.


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need to shorten campaign season to at most 6 months


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primaries need to happen in JUNE


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Mikey#7286
trump was bound by big coal and look what happened to big coal


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Mikey#7286
:twismug:


[24-May-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's a pawn too, in the end


[24-May-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a mess of special interests that wax and wane


[24-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
ban political ads and campaign spending except for a month or two during the election process, and require party primaries to lead the general election by no more than a few weeks


[24-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that's how I'd go about it


[24-May-19 11:13 PM] Mikey#7286
sounds good to me


[24-May-19 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What about doing away with primaries entirely and just having one big approval-voting showdown


[24-May-19 11:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, primaries (to me) are just a way to focus partisan resources on whatever darling poster child the DNC and RNC want most


[24-May-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
that would destroy the party system, so they wouldn't let it happen that way


[24-May-19 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also I feel like how the vice president takes office is an area of improvement, but I'm not sure what the best approach there is. Regressing to it being the runner-up in the election would not only guarantee lockhorns in today's climate, it'd also effectively make the general election nearly pointless because by that point the pres and running mate are already decided, it's just a matter of who gets what job


[24-May-19 11:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I'm not sure simply having them be democratically elected separately from the pres would be significantly better than the existing system


[24-May-19 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/2W834NK

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I'm  going to invade the south.
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[24-May-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let's make his nightmares into reality


[24-May-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-uses-proxies-punch-above-its-weight-middle-east-experts-n1008731

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Iran’s proxies pose elusive threat to U.S. and its Mideast allies
In a war with Iran, the United States would have to contend with Tehran-backed proxies spread across the region, armed with mines, missiles and drones.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_21/2869431/190524-hezbollah-fighters-al-0745_c84158b7b4234cf46b6b4544a04d7039.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-May-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
>As the United States and Iran trade threats and risk a potential collision, the Trump administration is struggling to counter Tehran’s network of proxies across the Middle East. The sprawling network is armed not only with missiles and mines, but also with political influence.


[24-May-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
>“The U.S. can destroy the Iranian navy in a day, but it will find it is attacked in six countries by proxy networks,” said Michael Knights, a senior fellow at The Washington Institute think tank.


[25-May-19 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
``good luck I'm behind six proxies :^)``


[25-May-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
the sad part is that despite this, the US would just crush those proxy networks within the next day


[25-May-19 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, we haven't shown a terrific track record against insurgencies and guerilla warfare


[25-May-19 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's especially difficult when you remember that Iran is not the only power willing to fight proxy wars in the region


[25-May-19 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
one with a vested interest in making sure our country is destabilized


[25-May-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, a few months ago I mentioned to my mom that the US could successfully defend itself from an attack from the rest of the world simultaneously in a conventional warfare scenario (no WMDs etc), and the cognitive dissonance cranked up to 11 as she kind of just quietly denied that the US could do so despite not being able to come up with any logic or evidence as to why they couldn't


[25-May-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of disheartening to see her act that way tbh


[25-May-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
please just keep doing it


[25-May-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn'st really seem to be helping by confronting her with her cognitive dissonance as a weapon, it's just making her get madder every time anything political is brought up, almost like she's desperately hoping to be right when she realizes she's likely wrong


[25-May-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
because she can't find any of the stuff she supposedly heard democrats say on her conservative talk show radios


[25-May-19 12:58 AM] Mikey#7286
your mom is an idiot


[25-May-19 12:58 AM] Mikey#7286
also how old are you Crow?


[25-May-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
she said she heard obama say "This is the new norm" for no more manufacturing jobs in the US in a speech on one of those shows years ago, but the only example I can find of him actually saying that is "This is the new norm, and we need to fix it" in a 60 minutes interview (I can't find the actual video, only the transcript)


[25-May-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
I'm 26


[25-May-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
i see


[25-May-19 01:00 AM] Mikey#7286
why do you still live with her?


[25-May-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
I never said I did


[25-May-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[25-May-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
why do you talk to her if you live alone?


[25-May-19 01:01 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[25-May-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
because I don't really have anyone else to talk to


[25-May-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
I talk to my brother sometimes, but that's it


[25-May-19 01:02 AM] Mikey#7286
that's kind of depressing


[25-May-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/heartbeat-abortion-federal-judge-blocks-mississippis-law/1227710001/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/heartbeat-abortion-federal-judge-blocks-mississippis-law/1227710001/
'Here we go again.' Federal judge blocks Mississippi's 'heartbeat'...
The law would have banned abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, when a fetal heartbeat is detected.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/05/21/PJAM/6db3a2d3-1d99-43d5-8e31-863fe81550f1-Pro-choice_rally._MAIN.jpg?crop=2999,1672,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[25-May-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/23/video-nancy-pelosi-edited-sound-drunk-spreading-social-media/1213677001/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/23/video-nancy-pelosi-edited-sound-drunk-spreading-social-media/1213677001/
Trump tweets altered video of Nancy Pelosi stumbling over words
The video clip tweeted by the president isn't the only one designed to make the appear in a negative light.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/04/30/USAT/2b987eb4-400e-4a5d-b7f8-2701ba44a6a6-AP_Infrastructure_Democrats.JPG?crop=4199,2352,x0,y55&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[25-May-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
fucking idiot of a president


[25-May-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[25-May-19 01:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literally lying and slandering under oath, but going by unpunished.


[25-May-19 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nice


[25-May-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi would have a hard time suing and would look bad so meh


[25-May-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404923 he went through with it

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404923
Trump to bypass Congress over Saudi weapons sale
The president evokes a legal loophole to push through the arms deal without Congressional approval.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/265C/production/_107102890_gettyimages-1128066622.jpg


[25-May-19 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I M P E R I A L  P R E S I D E N C Y


[25-May-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c93331a922894b8ebeda941a8d70f912

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https://apnews.com/c93331a922894b8ebeda941a8d70f912
At $2M, priciest ever medicine treats fatal genetic disease
U.S. regulators have approved the most expensive medicine ever, for a rare disorder that destroys a baby's muscle control and kills nearly all of those with the most common type of the disease...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:15d47798b5f842eebdbd430743ff63ca/3000.jpeg


[25-May-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It saves babies from horrible death? Better charge extra.


[25-May-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
this is why for-profit healthcare is disgusting


[25-May-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1558741044068.png

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[25-May-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They targeted gamers


[25-May-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow they literally are gonna just screw over D&D nerds because they don't like them


[25-May-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just amazing how Trump finds new ways to be petty


[25-May-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
GAMERS RISE UP


[25-May-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We truly live in a society


[25-May-19 02:45 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Guy blamed video games for violence and people still defended it


[25-May-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Video game industry has great lobbyists


[25-May-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For an entertainment industry at least


[25-May-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you trump


[25-May-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the end of the Epic Store r-right


[25-May-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this might be the end of a lot of things depending ont hings


[25-May-19 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
But if media doesn't effect our behavior then why do video game trailers exist


[25-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.quora.com/Dont-movies-like-Olympus-Has-Fallen-and-London-Has-Fallen-give-bad-guys-terrorists-ideas

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Don't movies like 'Olympus Has Fallen' and 'London Has Fallen' giv...
You've just stepped into a theoretical minefield. Social psychologists have filled libraries over many years debating the impact of media on violence. The debate continues. There is evidence that suggests that someone already pre-disposed toward v...


[25-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
lolwut


[25-May-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
(I found that when I was searching for an article I read about copycat movies)


[25-May-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
`I remember back in the 70’s there was a show called Qunicy. One episode had a person exhume a grave of a person who recently died that had similar build to themselves, and then burned the body in a car to fake their death so they could commit insurance fraud. A month later this happened IRL. A small, yet vocal group called for the show to be taken off the air because it “gave criminals bad ideas”. The show ignored this and lasted quite some time after this scandal.`


[25-May-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Oof Quora


[25-May-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people have been taking ideas from shows for decades, they shouldnt be cancelled because some dumbass decided what they saw on tv was a good idea


[25-May-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people have been taking ideas from the bible too and you dont see that gettign shunned


[25-May-19 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I heard The Wire got some infamy when criminals started to use it to teach each other how to handle being handled by the police


[25-May-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People started dying meth blue after Breaking Bad


[25-May-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I tried watching The Wire but couldn't get into it


[25-May-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe I need to give it another chance


[25-May-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police also started arrestign people carrying blue jolly ranchers


[25-May-19 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Each season is different


[25-May-19 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Like which group is the primary focus


[25-May-19 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Gangs, press, cops, citty hall


[25-May-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
The purification process for meth should not make it appear blue!!! It should always be clear crystals


[25-May-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
The blue is cupric (Cu2+) impurity


[25-May-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think breaking bad did it for legal reasons, actuall meth dealers however probably shouldnt be doing that


[25-May-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially since the breaking bad stuff was cotton candy flavored rock candy


[25-May-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that the actors kept eating


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not for legal reasons


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a plot point that they find a way to make meth that makes it purer, and makes it blue too


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent actually watched the show


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of like how early synthetic gemstone diamonds were yellow


[25-May-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh ok that makes sense


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not from a real life stand point, but in a plot relation sure


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real pure meth is white


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that i knew


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but people would dye blue presumably to scam idiots by saying it's like in Breaking Bad


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
It's opaque white when powdered


[25-May-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
The crystals are clear, though


[25-May-19 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
It was chirality they said


[25-May-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
There's only one part of the synthesis where that could matter and it's one of the earliest stages


[25-May-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
But as a chemist you want to do the recrystallization at the end only


[25-May-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Otherwise you'll cut your yield massively


[25-May-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Having a cold and buying Sudafed that is actually Sudafed is a nightmare


[25-May-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A city near me banned all sale of it, so I drive five minutes further


[25-May-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give my ID


[25-May-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then get actual Sudafed


[25-May-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The over the counter stuff that is sold is a placebo, amazed they can sell it as doing anything


[25-May-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-May-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
You know what the FDA process is for drug approval right


[25-May-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
It's literally "data were collected until the results became statistically significant"


[25-May-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
The entire thing is p-hacking


[25-May-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
They can market drugs that absolutely do fuck all like phenylephrine this way


[25-May-19 06:07 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
India is the dirtiest country huh


[25-May-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A breakdown of India's smog sources

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[25-May-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh I thought transport would be a much heftier wedge


[25-May-19 06:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm also not seeing any mention in the wkipedia article on where the "dust & construction" stuff comes from nor does it mention anything about construction in how the gov't. is dealing with the problem


[25-May-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dusty old bones full of green dust


[25-May-19 09:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I feel that Gamers lack of policing themselves lead to the Gaming industry craving to the SJWs

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[25-May-19 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kutv.com/news/offbeat/washington-is-1st-state-to-allow-composting-of-human-bodies-05-21-2019

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Washington is 1st state to allow composting of human bodies
Ashes to ashes, guts to dirt. Gov. Jay Inslee signed legislation Tuesday making Washington the first state to approve composting as an alternative to burying or cremating human remains. It allows licensed facilities to offer "natural organic reduction," which turns a body, mi...
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[25-May-19 09:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
To be honest graves take up a lot of land and the embowering fluid seeps into the soil getting into the drinking water


[25-May-19 11:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacYveeSALI

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The Serfs
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The Antifada LIVE (Venezuela, Ben Shapiro, Sargon VS Fish, and can...
Sean BK of the Antifada very generously nursed a hangover while discussing all the news of the week with the Serfs! Click▼ Visit: https://podcasts.apple.com/...
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[25-May-19 02:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sally Moon this says a lot about our society


[25-May-19 04:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/388221631920865280/581840659082772491/image0.jpg

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[25-May-19 04:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Religion
Secularism
Democracy


[25-May-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2a56ac6815c8484b854bb0cd50d413d9

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Trump opens state visit, needles Japan over trade issues
TOKYO (AP) — President Donald Trump opened a state visit to Japan on Saturday by needling the country over its trade imbalance with the United States. "Maybe that's why you like me so much," he...
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[25-May-19 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/german-minister-wants-secure-messengers-to-decrypt-chats/

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German Minister Wants Secure Messengers To Decrypt Chats
Germany's Interior Minister Horst Seehofer purportedly wants to force messaging providers such as WhatsApp, Telegram, and Threema to provide plain text chats to law enforcement agencies on a court order as reported by Der Spiegel and from a number of other German news outlets.
https://www.bleepstatic.com/content/posts/2019/05/24/Encryption-Broken.jpg


[25-May-19 05:17 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's dumb


[25-May-19 06:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man


[25-May-19 06:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Old fucks in power around the world always asking for this to happen.


[25-May-19 06:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder, would these companies offering to decrypt via brute-force be a form of malicious compliance?


[25-May-19 06:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Only if the ones asking for the service not be encrypted immediately had all of their conversations published. The people asking for this have only just figured out how email works never mind secure messengers.


[25-May-19 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
just a repeat of australia https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-laws-of-australia-will-trump-the-laws-of-mathematics-turnbull/

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The laws of Australia will trump the laws of mathematics: Turnbull...
Despite calling the laws of mathematics 'commendable', the prime minister of Australia told ZDNet the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia when it comes to legislating decryption.
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[25-May-19 06:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
2+2=🇦🇺


[25-May-19 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd like to see this guy try to factor a large composite number with two large prime factors


[25-May-19 06:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd like to see this guy do long division on two 5+ digit numbers in under ten minutes


[25-May-19 06:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"morally they should?" do what? Pretend they can do anything about the problem? Lying seems pretty immoral to me


[25-May-19 06:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so who's the GHCQ guy who said something that made turnbull think it was feasible. I'd bet anything that guy was just trying to placate him to get him off the phone


[25-May-19 06:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLroqRY3Kk
this video was removed from sargon's channel but others uploaded it

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God's Flat Earth
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Labour Knew about the Muslim Grooming Gangs
Original Source : The Thinkery https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpiCH7qvGVlzMOqy3dncA5Q Learn About Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUqPgzD-dV4&list=PL...
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[25-May-19 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah I can't take a channel with the name "God's flat Earth" seriously.


[25-May-19 06:49 PM] Mikey#7286
If you believe the Earth is flat, you're literally retarded.


[25-May-19 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[25-May-19 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
I checked his other videos


[25-May-19 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[25-May-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm not watching that shit


[25-May-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Fuck outta here


[25-May-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Don't link flat Earth channels


[25-May-19 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i know nothing about this flat earth person. this is a video by sargon.


[25-May-19 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
like i said this video was removed from sargon's channel


[25-May-19 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
others uploaded it


[25-May-19 06:52 PM] Mikey#7286
If the flat Earther uploaded it it's probably full of shit


[25-May-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
or maybe you should watch the video and be the judge yourself?


[25-May-19 06:53 PM] Mikey#7286
I also don't take people like Sargon seriously


[25-May-19 06:53 PM] Mikey#7286
He's a shitty person


[25-May-19 06:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well it's just him reading some documents and a few news reports.


[25-May-19 06:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
unless you consider that bad behavior too.


[25-May-19 06:56 PM] Mikey#7286
And what credibility do these documents have? Why should I listen to a talking head anyway?


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's Sargon's goal


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What does he mean when he does the things he does


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Mikey#7286
Nothing


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
the name of the channel is irrelevant to its content


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
exactly byte


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
now, that content happens to be made by Sargon, who himself is a real piece of work


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Mikey#7286
He has no goal other than to trigger da libs


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like what would Sargon want to happen


[25-May-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he want genocide?


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking , pass the milkshake please


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I assume that's what these guys want deep down


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What else would it be?


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What other goal do they want?


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Make people mad"


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh that's right someone threw milkshakes at him


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they do what then, another Christchurch?


[25-May-19 06:58 PM] Mikey#7286
😂


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe you should watch the vid. he's talking about how figures in the goverment knew about the grooming gangs as far back in 2008 and tried to cover it up.


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay and what is the goal with the video


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What does he hope to do by bringing it to light


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Sunnyside#3103
By informing people about it?


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What people say is nearly irrelevant


[25-May-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What they want by saying it is more important


[25-May-19 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Inform them so what happens


[25-May-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd prefer just links to the documents


[25-May-19 07:00 PM] Mikey#7286
^


[25-May-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can read much faster than I can listen to some guy ranting for 15 to generate rage views and subscribers


[25-May-19 07:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Who cares about some meaningless guy's obviously biased thoughts about them?


[25-May-19 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(a lot of people)


[25-May-19 07:01 PM] Mikey#7286
A lot of brainwashed people


[25-May-19 07:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/download...
https://www.politicalite.com/corbyn/l...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...
https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mp...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...
https://news.sky.com/story/extra-secu...
https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ja...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...
https://news.sky.com/story/sex-abuse-...

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https://www.politicalite.com/corbyn/l...
LABOUR AGAINST THE WORKING CLASS: Sunderland Backs Clean Brexit By 70%
SHARE! 0The groundswell of support for a clean Brexit is something that, unsurprisingly, the mainstream media is blanking. Meanwhile, as part of the anti-Brexit drumbeat, Labour MPs are being pressured to support a second referendum but in doing so many would be totally betra...
https://www.politicalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GettyImages-625288940-714x476.jpg


[25-May-19 07:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
here's the sources


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
those aren't the sources


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
those are abbreviated links


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the links work for me


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
those are the sources


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
read to your heart's content


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those are all broken links


[25-May-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
not a single one of those is a proper link


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
you copied them from a youtube description which abbreviated them


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao at the British thinking they can run their own country


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck sovereignty


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're incompetent and would be better run by Brussels


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even joking


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Mikey#7286
And an e-celeb wants to be a MEP


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahahah


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Milkshake Enjoying Person


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
that's irrelevant


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham


[25-May-19 07:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politicalite.com/corbyn/labour/labours-cover-up-gordon-browns-government-urged-police-not-to-investigate-muslim-grooming-gangs/

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LABOUR’S COVER-UP: Gordon Brown’s Government ‘Urged’ Polic...
SHARE! 0GORDON Brown’s Labour Government allegedly urged Police Forces across the UK ‘not to investigate’ grooming gangs. The Former North West Chief Prosecutor alleged that the Home Office ordered police to ignore grooming gang claims in 2008. Nazir Afzal, told the BBC...
https://www.politicalite.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-06.20.51.png


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grooming-gang-victim-i-raped-16165949

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grooming-gang-victim-i-raped-16165949
Grooming gang victim raped by more than 100 men was arrested inste...
EXCLUSIVE: Woman, now 23, who was raped by more than 100 men tells how SHE was repeatedly arrested by police and even now she receives death threats
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article16166701.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/1_A-Awoman-standing-at-her-hotel-window-as-the-sun-sets-over-Malmo-Sweden.jpg


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/view,mp-naz-shah-should-resign-after-sharing-tweet-telling-sex-abuse-victims-to-keep-their-mouths-shut_23593.htm

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MP Naz Shah "should resign" after sharing tweet telling sex abuse ...
A SEX abuse survivor has called for an MP who shared a “hurtful” tweet saying child abuse victims “should keep their mouths shut” to resign.
http://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/ugc-1/fullnews/news/23593/23965_big.jpg


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't matter if he's an e-celeb, it matters if he calls people "faggots" and says "[they are] acting like niggers"


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
which is what he did


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-47413418

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-47413418
Peer charged with attempted rapes of girl
Former Labour peer Lord Ahmed of Rotherham is also accused of indecently assaulting a boy under 13.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/CDFF/production/_105653725_051028376.jpg


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the solution is to ban Muslims right


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's your goal


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mp-sarah-champion-faced-fury-for-sex-gangs-article-in-the-sun-9xrm3d3hv

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mp-sarah-champion-faced-fury-for-sex-gangs-article-in-the-sun-9xrm3d3hv
Rotherham MP Sarah Champion faced fury for sex gangs article in Th...
Sarah Champion incurred the wrath of many on the political left when she told readers of The Sun that the country “has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls”. She...
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fbdc3829c-8f59-11e8-8c1a-b63727488402.png?crop=546%2C307%2C229%2C378


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sarah-champion-floppy-left-islamophobia-the-sun-pakistani-men-rape-white-girls-grooming-a7925446.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sarah-champion-floppy-left-islamophobia-the-sun-pakistani-men-rape-white-girls-grooming-a7925446.html
Labour MP who resigned over sex gang article in The Sun attacks 'f...
Comments come after MP apologised for ‘poor choice of words’ in The Sun article that accused Pakistani men of ‘raping and exploiting white girls’
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/08/13/20/Sarah-Champion.jpg


[25-May-19 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.sky.com/story/extra-security-for-mp-who-said-british-pakistani-men-are-raping-white-girls-11448106

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https://news.sky.com/story/extra-security-for-mp-who-said-british-pakistani-men-are-raping-white-girls-11448106
Extra security for MP who said British Pakistani men are raping wh...
Sarah Champion is said to have received death threats after a charity accused her of "reckless" comments on sexual grooming.
https://e3.365dm.com/17/05/768x432/25aa31704de7196d27dfe40033c74292a77464781a446567faadb4bb04c47c91_3959859.jpg?20170522012613


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, this is about the Rotherham thing?


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's very old news


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/26/the-persecution-of-sarah-champion/

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https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/07/26/the-persecution-of-sarah-champion/
The persecution of Sarah Champion
The MP is being punished for daring to talk about Muslim grooming gangs.
https://media.spiked-online.com/website/images/2018/09/26072602/the-persecution-of-sarah-champion.jpg


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jailed-paedophiles-yell-allahu-akbar-as-they-are-led-from-court-njktwvdh7

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jailed-paedophiles-yell-allahu-akbar-as-they-are-led-from-court-njktwvdh7
Jailed paedophiles yell Allahu akbar as they are led from court
Members of a paedophile gang shouted Allahu akbar in court yesterday as they were jailed for raping and abusing girls aged 11 and 13 after giving them cannabis and alcohol. Two of the brothers...
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F1687436e-e989-11e6-a93a-4fa396e7e4ed.jpg?crop=2294%2C1290%2C12%2C209


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's going to be an attempt within the decade to basically ban Islam from a Western country


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-40886658

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-40886658
Racism fear 'perpetuates abuse culture'
Rotherham MP Sarah Champion says she will be attacked for her comments about the latest grooming case.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p05c1cxp.jpg


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.sky.com/story/sex-abuse-gangs-view-white-girls-as-worthless-and-trash-10982586

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https://news.sky.com/story/sex-abuse-gangs-view-white-girls-as-worthless-and-trash-10982586
Sex abuse gangs view white girls as 'worthless' and 'trash'
After police found hundreds of girls were abused in the North East, community leaders say the race issue must be addressed.
https://e3.365dm.com/17/08/768x432/9204540ccdda1f29053032a7e94af0f34ed4344a5429110205b22213a79468bb_4069791.jpg?20170810214424


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
here's the sources again


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
with complete links


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's your goal


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude, everyone's known about this for over half a decade


[25-May-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
read them if you don't want to watch them


[25-May-19 07:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the point is. this may have been covered up since 2008 by the government of the uk.


[25-May-19 07:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
>"covered up"
>the links are all operational


[25-May-19 07:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I probably get what you're getting at but better word choice is needed


[25-May-19 07:07 PM] Mikey#7286
If we're going to ban Islam than ban every other religion too.


[25-May-19 07:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
as for goal, i have none other than to share a video that i thought is worth sharing for it's subject matter for discussion.  since you wanted sources i went the extra step and found them.


[25-May-19 07:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That wasn't an extra step, that should've been the first step


[25-May-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just thought this would be something new


[25-May-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, you had a reason for sharing these


[25-May-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you want


[25-May-19 07:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the discussion


[25-May-19 07:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, for the record, any time I hear people suggest the phrase "why isn't the media covering this/why aren't people talking about it" when there is, in fact, a wealth of sources from the media, what they're implying is that the *particular* media that person consumes as a primary source is not covering it


[25-May-19 07:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which would, to me, indicate some level of bias on behalf of that source


[25-May-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Elements in power in the UK ignored or smothered information about a muslim-only child rape gang because it'd be very non-PC and cost them their careers  to appear to be going against a group over their race/religion


[25-May-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't news


[25-May-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's politicians being politicans


[25-May-19 07:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
read the articles and watch the vid and draw your own conclusion. it's all I ask


[25-May-19 07:11 PM] ononim#8141
British politicans protecting child molesters looks like looking over their own to me :^)


[25-May-19 07:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I thank you for sharing viewpoints well outside of what I would encounter normally


[25-May-19 07:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That kind of perspective is useful


[25-May-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-turns-full-force-government-perceived-political-enemies-n1010096

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Trump turns the full force of the government on perceived politica...
Analysis: The president is wielding power in ways not seen in the United States in generations — if ever.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_21/2870421/190524-donald-trump-ew-200p_a14651648ad6cc28eafa7263ee1d5ef1.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-May-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
President Donald Trump found four former federal officials guilty of "treason" Thursday — and then commissioned his intelligence agencies to help the Department of Justice prove it.

At the same time, he is blocking Congress from executing its constitutional duty to execute oversight of his administration, not only with regard to his campaign's ties to Russia and the interference detailed in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation but also on a host of other fronts.

He's wielding power in ways not seen in the United States in generations, if ever, and which many experts say do not resemble global norms for heads of state.


[25-May-19 07:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yyyyyyyyyyikes


[25-May-19 07:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not only is treason punishable by death, he's treating this as guilty until proven innocent, ne?


[25-May-19 07:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Goddamn


[25-May-19 07:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And WHY DOES THIS STUFF ALWAYS HAPPEN ON THURSDAYS


[25-May-19 07:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
for the past month at least, thursday's always the day the biggest bombshells surrounding US politics drop


[25-May-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really has gone full petty dictator


[25-May-19 07:32 PM] ISamusI#5581
I do wonder, what is aimed


[25-May-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is unlike north korea he has the power to back up his insane demands and horrifying threats


[25-May-19 07:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
What are his intents, and what forces are of reason?


[25-May-19 07:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
(I've not had involvement in political knowledge for too long)


[25-May-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep Congress from getting in his way


[25-May-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his intents are power, the fear people will call him a fraud, and the frustration of wanting to do horribel things but beign blocked at every angle by a congress who knwos better


[25-May-19 07:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You all better starting working on your salutes for Glorious leader Trump.


[25-May-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckt hat dumpster fire


[25-May-19 07:34 PM] ISamusI#5581
That is fairly broad and simplified, what does he say he wants to do specifically?


[25-May-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well right now he wantas a wall immediately, he wants to sell weapons to saudi arabia immediatly, and he wants war with iran immediately for no dissernable reason than to force himself intot he position of wartime president


[25-May-19 07:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
Isn't SA a terrorist housing?


[25-May-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HE doesnt care, they pay him millions


[25-May-19 07:36 PM] ISamusI#5581
(do correct me if I'm incorrect)


[25-May-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he only respects dictators


[25-May-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if they run a terrorist regime, thne so be it that;swhat he wants for his country too


[25-May-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants to be the glorious dictator that putin, kim jong un, and the crown prince of saudi arabia are


[25-May-19 07:37 PM] ISamusI#5581
SA's Prince?


[25-May-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[25-May-19 07:37 PM] ISamusI#5581
I've not heard of him


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] ISamusI#5581
Who is he?


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
prince salmon


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_bin_Salman

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Mohammad bin Salman
Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Arabic: محمد بن سلمان بن عبدالعزيز آل سعود‎, romanized: Muḥammad bin Salmān bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd; born 31 August 1985), colloquially known as MbS, is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. H...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Crown_Prince_Mohammad_bin_Salman_Al_Saud_-_2017.jpg


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
a fishy character


[25-May-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he kills people for funsies


[25-May-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump worships the ground he walks upon


[25-May-19 07:39 PM] ISamusI#5581
He doesn't even look evil in that image =x
I always dislike when images of seemingly happy people are skewed in reality most saddening.


[25-May-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has very misleading looks


[25-May-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he looks liek hel;d be a charming fellow to chat with and thne he has you executed because you looked at him slightly off


[25-May-19 07:40 PM] ISamusI#5581
I see..


[25-May-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
he orders the killing over skype


[25-May-19 07:41 PM] ISamusI#5581
I know this is a stupid question, but..


[25-May-19 07:41 PM] ISamusI#5581
Why then isn't he banned on skype?


[25-May-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashoggi

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Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi
The assassination of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi dissident, journalist for The Washington Post and former general manager and editor-in-chief of Al-Arab News Channel, occurred on 2 October 2018 at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey and was perpetrated by agents of the Saudi...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Jamal_Khashoggi_in_March_2018_%28cropped%29.jpg/1200px-Jamal_Khashoggi_in_March_2018_%28cropped%29.jpg


[25-May-19 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-khashoggi-adviser-insight/how-the-man-behind-khashoggi-murder-ran-the-killing-via-skype-idUSKCN1MW2HA

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How the man behind Khashoggi murder ran the killing via Skype
He ran social media for Saudi Arabia's crown prince. He masterminded the ar...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181022&t=2&i=1317510721&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEE9L1NX


[25-May-19 07:42 PM] ISamusI#5581
For knowledge sake, I will ask - in what way does Trump worship all of them?


[25-May-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also supposedly had the assassina executed to keep it under wraps, i could be wrogn though


[25-May-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's accusing people of treason and asking for evidence to be found to convict them


[25-May-19 07:43 PM] ISamusI#5581
that sounds like some DC thicc lady I forget the name of deal


[25-May-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump follows putin like an adoration filled puppy, he kisses kim jong un;s ass, and he will sell anything to saudi arabia if thye demand it


[25-May-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and go along with whatever story they tell him to go with


[25-May-19 07:44 PM] ISamusI#5581
Kissing their rears sounds like it would either prevent some aspects of war, or permit infiltration of those powers


[25-May-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has leaked actuall classified information to putin in telephone calls


[25-May-19 07:44 PM] ISamusI#5581
what kind of info?


[25-May-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the investigation into russia probably several undercover soldiers inside of russia and more


[25-May-19 07:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that Trump's take on all of these dictators turned friendly immediately following a 1-on-1 meeting with each of them


[25-May-19 07:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the biggest example of this is Erdogan


[25-May-19 07:45 PM] ISamusI#5581
And who is Erdogan? (I need to get to knowing the world's power more =x)


[25-May-19 07:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Turkey


[25-May-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan

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Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan_2019_%28cropped%29.jpg


[25-May-19 07:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm.. What does he do?


[25-May-19 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dictator of Turkey


[25-May-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well for starters he abolished his countries term limits on presidents


[25-May-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he is now president for life


[25-May-19 07:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
I see. what about impeachability?


[25-May-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely had anyone who could oppose him executed


[25-May-19 07:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm.. Why is the world so ensued in power


[25-May-19 07:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
(is that a viable term, ensued?)


[25-May-19 07:48 PM] ononim#8141
Khashoggi murder was vile but it still irks me when people point it out like it's the only bad thing house of Saud done


[25-May-19 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
him and putin share the trait of rigging their elections so that only they can win forever


[25-May-19 07:49 PM] ononim#8141
they frequently murder their own citizens for any dissent


[25-May-19 07:49 PM] ononim#8141
and as other Gulf states totally don't use migrant workers as slaves in all but the name


[25-May-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/03/saudi-arabia-in-ten-brutal-facts/

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Saudi Arabia: 10 brutal facts beyond the Raif Badawi case
https://www.amnesty.org:443/remote.axd/aineupstrmediaprd.blob.core.windows.net/media/8620/207450_free_raif_protest_in_warsaw_on_22nd_january_2015.jpg?preset=fixed_1200_630


[25-May-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/mohammed-bin-salman-dark-side-saudi-arabia-crown-prince-181015123719153.html

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Mohammed bin Salman: The dark side of Saudi Arabia's crown prince
Touted as Saudi Arabia's progressive reformer, Mohammed bin Salman has an ominous human rights record.
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[25-May-19 07:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
Ah..
So, if anyone has the ability to paint a big picture of overall gist's, how would you detail what is currently transpiring in the world (of things that affect everyone long-term)?


[25-May-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
impending climate disaster


[25-May-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
extensive humanitarian crises in developed nations due to worsening climate conditions


[25-May-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
abandonment of some developing nations


[25-May-19 07:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
I just got an idea... you know how there's this idea that people in power want the world reduced to minimal population for easier control?


[25-May-19 07:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
What if Climate based disaster is a way to accomplish it?


[25-May-19 07:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
amongst other things


[25-May-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
it isn't because it won't remove anyone from power


[25-May-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
it will just serve to entrench poverty and grind the existing poor into the dirt


[25-May-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
even if it was so severe that it wiped out massive portions of the human population, it would with near certainty hardly affect the people in power at all


[25-May-19 07:55 PM] ISamusI#5581
exactly.


[25-May-19 07:56 PM] ISamusI#5581
People in power remain, while the audience lessens and less people fight against corruption


[25-May-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
it is easy to weaponize climate panic


[25-May-19 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
and turn citizens on themselves for "pollution" when in reality it is the rich who do most of the polluting


[25-May-19 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
this is an ideal situation for the powerful


[25-May-19 07:58 PM] ISamusI#5581
So all of this isn't just for saving the world, climate crisis' aren't just a byproduct of old technology anymore, being that they're still being used - they're possibly there to be weaponized for this very thing? (may be going a little out there in a short time, but you get the gist)


[25-May-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
it's easy to keep an oppressive authoritarian regime when your citizens do all the work for oyu


[25-May-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
if they're constantly fighting over trivial pollution matters then they aren't fighting you, the ruler


[25-May-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
china is already doing this


[25-May-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure india will be next


[25-May-19 08:01 PM] ISamusI#5581
What is the point of their goals? What, besides lifetime power and authority, could make this all worth doing for them?


[25-May-19 08:01 PM] ISamusI#5581
over all the suffering?


[25-May-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
I think that statement presumes humans are rational beings


[25-May-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not


[25-May-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody needs a reason to be powerful


[25-May-19 08:02 PM] ISamusI#5581
We're very sentient, but certainly free to do whatever.
We're free yet we're so messed up


[25-May-19 08:02 PM] ISamusI#5581
at least, many are


[25-May-19 08:03 PM] ISamusI#5581
I don't get it, is this merely a game to them though?


[25-May-19 08:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
absolutely


[25-May-19 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if you look at how the super rich treat tax law


[25-May-19 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not that they think they're cheating, it's that they think there's some kind of "meta" game where the only real way to win is to step outside the system and anyone who doesn't isn't even playing


[25-May-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if anyone who doesnt already have tons of money attempts to play the meta game, the ultra competitive meta players turn on them with force and send them to the penalty box


[25-May-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
(jail for tax fraud)


[25-May-19 08:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
occasionally, though, they'll see noobs in the starter area and invite them to play in the big leagues if they think there's potential in 'em


[25-May-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and when they aren;t in the leading scores, they call hax and attempt to hit the reset button


[25-May-19 08:11 PM] ISamusI#5581
I wonder.. what happens when they die, and nobody is left to play?


[25-May-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then they win!


[25-May-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the goal is to die with the most points possible!


[25-May-19 08:13 PM] ISamusI#5581
For us, I mean.


[25-May-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
we die


[25-May-19 08:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're the *board* they're playing on


[25-May-19 08:13 PM] ISamusI#5581
Perhaps, but surely they themselves don't keep the board standing, they merely play on it and smash it around while they can


[25-May-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are also sometimes the koopas and goombas


[25-May-19 08:14 PM] ISamusI#5581
So, back to being literal, how do we become free from them?


[25-May-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
communism

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[25-May-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the most effective method in the past was execution by guillotine, but thne someone fucked it up and improved gunpowder


[25-May-19 08:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's...not the order things happened in but ok


[25-May-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, communism and socialism as well as basic social democracy are typically the tools we cna use to get out from under their waluigi sized foot


[25-May-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the question is how to we implement it in a way they cant just wave their fire flowers and murder with force


[25-May-19 08:17 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm, how does Com/Socialism set us free from them, without being entrapped by more?


[25-May-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlike capitalism, communism and socialism are made to spread the benefits and wealth tot he people instead of forcing all the power and money up river to the very rich and powerful


[25-May-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
(in practice it still happens)


[25-May-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they woudl need to be modified to actually work


[25-May-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
tfw the soviet anthem on youtube is COPYRIGHT CLAIMED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

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The mighty anthem of USSR.
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[25-May-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610

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[25-May-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of making it work is preventing totalinarianism from taking root in the system and installing yet another dictator


[25-May-19 08:21 PM] ISamusI#5581
So, if the systems are viable, why are they often so hated?


[25-May-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they go against everything the rich and powerful want


[25-May-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the rich and powerful spreads false information and bad examples create an invisible enemy so no one tries to overthrow them


[25-May-19 08:22 PM] ISamusI#5581
invisible enemy
red scare..


[25-May-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[25-May-19 08:23 PM] ISamusI#5581
this happened before then


[25-May-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[25-May-19 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
constructs like the red scare can also be used to divide the people of your nation and prevent them from rising out of their holes to face you head on


[25-May-19 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes the paranoid turn on eachother, and it makes the people with opinions scared to speak up for fear of being turned in


[25-May-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better system in most of this is social democracy, which takes a bit from socialism, and a bit from capitalism and uses them to boost eachother


[25-May-19 08:27 PM] ISamusI#5581
And (apologies for the lack of immediate knowledge), how does Capitalism work


[25-May-19 08:27 PM] ISamusI#5581
I'm way to old not to know these ;-;


[25-May-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thebalance.com/capitalism-characteristics-examples-pros-cons-3305588

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How Capitalism Works Compared to Socialism and Communism
Capitalism is an economic theory where production is privately owned and controlled by the laws of supply and demand.
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[25-May-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah you;re cool


[25-May-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want to understand how things work and that;s great


[25-May-19 08:28 PM] ISamusI#5581
So it's privately controlled economics via monetary trading?


[25-May-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[25-May-19 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Someone having an ideological discussion without me?


[25-May-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism the problem with our capitalism is that it;s slowly turned into

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Corporatism is a political ideology which advocates the organization of society by corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, scientific, or guild associations on the basis of their common interests. The idea is that when each group performs its designated func...
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[25-May-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i may have the wrogn term


[25-May-19 08:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm.. this alone doesn't seem too terrible (by header description at least)


[25-May-19 08:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
It sounds like people being brought together to maintain the needs of other things


[25-May-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i definately used the wrogn ideology here


[25-May-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

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Corporatocracy
Corporatocracy (, from corporate and Greek: -κρατία, romanized: -kratía, lit. 'domination by', short form corpocracy, is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests. It is most often used as a term t...


[25-May-19 08:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
oof


[25-May-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here we go


[25-May-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our capitalism has mutated into corporatocracy


[25-May-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy also plutocracy

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Plutocracy
A plutocracy (Greek: πλοῦτος, ploutos, 'wealth' + κράτος, kratos, 'power') or plutarchy is a society that is ruled or controlled by people of great wealth or income. The first known use of the term in English dates from 1631.  Unlike systems such as democracy, c...


[25-May-19 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, when corporatism is often talked about it's referencing the collusion between powerful buisiness groups and government to pass policy beneficial to corporate interest against the broader public interest, or if you're an AnCap lil' shit to prevent your rise as an entrepeaur.


[25-May-19 08:32 PM] ISamusI#5581
now unless said wealth are legit good people, that sounds pretty bad


[25-May-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
But this sort of behavior is inevitable in a world of privately run capital, since Capitalism implies a diminishing pool of people who benefit as wealth becomes concentrated. And as a smaller party gets more power they like to protect that.


[25-May-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's an issue that goes as far back as Plato


[25-May-19 08:34 PM] ISamusI#5581
gotta brb a moment - post fooding


[25-May-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
In Plato's time he was complaining about how democracy would be derailed by the rich to form an oligarchy, and from that eventually tyranny.


[25-May-19 08:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
And who was Plato?


[25-May-19 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato

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Plato (; PLAY-toe Greek: Πλάτων Plátōn, pronounced [plá.tɔːn] PLAH-tone in Classical Attic; 428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BC) was an Athenian philosopher during the Classical period in Ancient Greece, founder of the Platonist school of thought, and the Academy, th...
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[25-May-19 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
A Greek philosopher was the ancient time. He wrote such works as The Republic, which is where he outlines his political and ethical system.


[25-May-19 08:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
Oh him. I remember the face a bit


[25-May-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that statue has no pupils and somehow still manages to stare into my soul


[25-May-19 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
He was a student of Socrates, considered the most important founder of Western philosophy. Plato often reforded his teacher's dialogues. He also used Socrates as a character in his own fictional dialogues like Republic.


[25-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Plato's name is also said to be a description of his physique. He was a very strong Boye, a champion at Greek wrestling.


[25-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Broad Shoulders"


[25-May-19 08:39 PM] ISamusI#5581
Interesting


[25-May-19 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Most of Plato's dialogues are pretty short. You could get through most in one sitting. If you read for an hour at a time you could go through the Republic in about two days


[25-May-19 08:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
Interesting


[25-May-19 08:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
also back


[25-May-19 08:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome back


[25-May-19 08:50 PM] ISamusI#5581
So, was there a first instance of a successful communism, or was it overall unsuccessful (and why)?


[25-May-19 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well that depends on what you're looking for. If you're the Marxist-Leninist type looking for a state example then the USSR's long run and many of its statistical successes (it eliminated illiteracy, everyone went to school, life expectancy shot up, infant mortality was slashed, homelessness became more-or-less non-existent) then you could always point to them and its run. For more libertarian modes though there's always the CNT-FAI movement in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War which had some amazing successes under relatively decentralized authority and is notable for being a revolution of its sort (Libertarian Communist/Anarcho Communist) in a developed first-world nation.


[25-May-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thomas Sankara in Burkini Faso had a great run as a Communist leader until he was Tupac'd be French-supported tribal leaders and antsy buisinessmen. Despite Sankara making the country entirely independent of the world bank, food aid, starting wide-spread public education that reached every part of the country, and cutting back on government spending (he himself only kept a handful of belongings: a motorcycle, a broken fridge, his pistol, and an electric guitar or two; the rest of the government was expected to cut back on excessive personal spending in the same way and most high-ranked deputies were obligated to pay into national development programs).


[25-May-19 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
What often has hindered Communist governments though is they being at the minority it governance and too radical for the liberal-democratic west who often sanctioned and restricted them for one reason or another. For example: Yugoslavia while being a Communist nation was part of the non-aligned movement and didn't pay lip service to NATO or the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War. Its workers shared control of the factories in a system of market socialism, meaning while they controlled the factories they sold their products on the market and shared the profits. But like the USSR they couldn't easily share in trade with some of the largest and richest markets like the US or UK and their economic prospects were greatly limited. Ironically, this is why Mexican mariachi music got so big in Yugoslavia because Mexico was one of the few nations who could bother to trade with them.


[25-May-19 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the other hand, countries like the German Democratic Republic, or the DDR - East Germany - had only the Eastern block countries accessible to them as a market limiting the scope they were able to deal with and the limits to their pool of amenities to use, or to even add to. Many of the Eastern Bloc countries suffered from that, because they weren't allowed to wheel and deal with the west so their economies suffered.


[25-May-19 09:04 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm


[25-May-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh and today we have Rojava in northern Syria as the latest experiment, and some would say it's more radical than Civil War Catalonia.


[25-May-19 09:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://hyperallergic.com/500658/man-arrested-in-kazakhstan/

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[25-May-19 09:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Comminum relies on the government putting the people first, since humans have wants, it ruins the system. It is like the government is the man at a party divided the cake, He has to share each portion of the cake with the guests. But he quickly runs into problems a man needs more than a child, so they get a larger portion but people have different metabolism rates so they have to get different serving sizes making it unequal. Second the cake divider can be corrupted giving those he likes larger portions.


[25-May-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, whatever. But that's not the thesis that's born out of Capital. It's more to do with the source of all commodities - labor, and laborers - having control of the means by which they exercise labor, the means of production: the factory, the mine, the farm, etc.


[25-May-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
And once the issues regarding maintaining the means of production and the material needed to produce a commodity are out of the way, splitting and sharing the surplus labor.


[25-May-19 09:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
To be paid an hourly wage is to always be paid substantially lower than the value you helped create. The mathematical difference between your wage and the excess revenue put into running the operation is the surplus labor which under traditional capitalism goes straight to the boss, or to the shareholders who have no operational roll in running the workshop.


[25-May-19 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
The people doing the gritty dirty work in that plant, or mine, or whatever they do also comes with the necessary condition they'll end up making it safer for everyone. Most of Capital vol. 1 is Marx running through all the contemporary health and safety issues in factories in the mid-19th century whether illegal or not per the UK's Factory Laws and how private capital for the purpose of profit is damaging for the many tens of hundreds of thousands who labor to produce that profit, from young children under ten to old men and women.


[25-May-19 09:23 PM] Sally Moon#4922
We are not in the mid 1800s anymore, those practices of child labor, and lack of safety regulation have been reduced considerably


[25-May-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
In fact I can point to historical and ongoing precedent on how a collectivized operation runs safer and more efficient than in a traditional top-down capitalist model. During the Anarchist management of Catalonia observers regularly pointed out how the Unionist's produced far more material than the region before the war. Agricultural output doubled. And they even abandoned and consolidated factories to put more productive force in the newer and up to date factories and reduced unsafe conditions while increasing productivity.


[25-May-19 09:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Up to today, employee-owned co-operatives have shown considerable advantages vs privately owned corporations from increased total output to longevity. Where many traditional businesses have a considerably high failure rate in the first six years, cooperatives more than make up for this and have a tremendous success rate through the uncertain first years of operation. More so if they are able to be created from a previously privately run company.


[25-May-19 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only issue with them are the barriers put in the way for them to get started with more banks more willing to offer a line of credit to traditionally ran companies despite a lower success rate. Though, Jeremy Corbyn's Labor Party has written into their manifesto that their mission moving ahead is to fight for legislation to give employees the power of first refusal and to establish a state-run bank to offer them the money needed to buy out the business or shop when the owners decide to step back and sell it.


[25-May-19 09:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
This is a wall on mobile. I have to head to work, but thanks for the chatting. Nice to have chill chats like these, ya know?


[25-May-19 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
But just because we're not in the 19th century anymore doesn't mean we are without the underlying issues brought by capitalism. The driving motive is still profit and they'll do whatever they can within their powers to cut back expenditures and raise annual earnings in the hopes of achieving perpetual growth into the future. This behavior is prominent in the tech industry as a whole, and has become more publically visible in the video game industry and less so in the video effects industry if not also elsewhere. Regularly coders and designers are forced to work overtime for no pay or cut pay in order to rush out a product by a deadline. Employees often have to now live at the office - even in America - to finish their video game and sexual assault and physical abuse is running riot at Riot and Gearbox.


[25-May-19 09:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
There is also another issue with cooperative enterprise and that is it has a slow response to the change in market. Which is a bad thing because the market changes rapidly, there are times when you have to make a desision now yet there are serval in your group who don't want to make the change leading to a lack in decision making.


[25-May-19 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Citation needed, because last I checked the flat hierarchical structure of a cooperative also lends to itself a lot of innovation, since you never have to appeal to a superior above you to allocate time or resources to do that thing. The US chemical manufacturing company WL Gore and Associates operates on this entire principle, and its founder Wilbert Lee Gore modeled the entire company on the flat, democratic emergency response teams DuPont would often raise to correct a problem, since those they found did the best work the fastest, and W.L Gore himself concluded that a flat non-hierarchical structure created an environment where complex issues can be rapidly responded to.


[25-May-19 09:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Besides, most fast-changing market trends are a result of advertising pushing specific products and is not reflective of the greater macro field of economics. At the end of the day, raw materials still need to be raised up from the ground, turned into processed materials, and shipped out to be transformed into commodities. And no point in any of this does the structure need to be hierarchically organized.


[25-May-19 09:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
https://bizfluent.com/info-8183469-advantages-disadvantages-cooperative-business.html

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Cooperative business has the advantage of bringing many stakeholders to the table, but they face the disadvantage of potential disagreement among these stakeholders. Cooperative businesses can be financed by their members, but they may face hurdles when trying to secure tradi...
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[25-May-19 09:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
I would like to point out again that the Anarchists in Spain, organizing a democratic model of production in not just a single factory but an entire region of Spain managed to out-produce its competition in Spain, and came to be the largest supplier of war material for the Second Republic.


[25-May-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
>BizFluent


[25-May-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Explain to me why I should trust the likely  biased opinion of a liberal capitalist magazine?


[25-May-19 09:44 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You asked for me to list my source. Second this is common knowledge to anyone who has taken a class in Business and Marketing


[25-May-19 09:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Buisiness and marketing


[25-May-19 09:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao, not economics


[25-May-19 09:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The three are linked


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
No, Economics itself does not produce profits for business leaders.


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
only in economic systems based around business and marketing


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
systems do not need to be built around this


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Buisiness management teaches a new generation of people to be the management class in order to control the current standing companies.


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
traditional economies functioned for millenia without this


[25-May-19 09:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596709000560

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[25-May-19 09:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
You have business journals, I have science.


[25-May-19 09:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.co-oplaw.org/special-topics/worker-cooperatives-performance-and-success-factors/

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Worker Cooperatives Performance and Success Factors
Why worker cooperatives are more resilient than conventional businesses but face unique barriers to entry.


[25-May-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course Wallstreet Dicks-in-asses won't like cooperatives because the profits don't go to them. They go to the Jim and Jill's the actually do the work.


[25-May-19 09:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also if Co-Ops were shit, how come this big boye has remained alive since 1956 and became one of the chief research partner to the likes of General Electric and I believe Boeing? https://www.mondragon-corporation.com/

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MONDRAGON Corporation
Corporación MONDRAGON, referencia mundial del trabajo en cooperación, constituye el primer grupo empresarial del País Vasco y el décimo de España, con importante presencia en los sectores Financiero, Industrial, Distribución y Conocimiento.


[25-May-19 09:52 PM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.thebalance.com/traditional-economy-definition-examples-pros-cons-3305587

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5 Traits of a Traditional Economy
A traditional economy is a society where economic decisions are guided by customs. It relies on hunting and fishing and uses a barter system for trade.
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[25-May-19 09:52 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You mean this?


[25-May-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
that was an example, not an end-all-be-all


[25-May-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
just of one where business and marketing play no role in the economic system


[25-May-19 09:53 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Such idealism


[25-May-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Marketing exists to advance profits beyond what'd they be at under normal circumstances by inventing markets from nothing, in order to influence the desires of potential consumers.


[25-May-19 09:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
I've literally been through this shit in classes too, it was part of my major too.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
But Capitalism exists as an Idealistic device to, since it relies on the existence of us knowing it.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not a natural force.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
And like other human ideas can changed or made entirely irrelevant.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Profit is an incentive for Business owners, you take the risk, and invest the time into your business to make a profit.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not part of the idealistic framework as the word "tree", since that's at least tied to a physical signifier.


[25-May-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's baby-ass shit. Not economic.


[25-May-19 09:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yeah: guess what. So can that be in a co-operative. When people see the effects of their work and inventiveness reflected in their own pay checks since they own the profit they know where to go or what to do. And more importantly, measure it against the ethicacy and morality of their actions within the community they belong.


[25-May-19 09:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Charles Koch may make ten billion dollars by polluting a river in the US, and he doesn't care because he doesn't live there. But the people who do live there care.


[25-May-19 09:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
But in so far as Charles Koch owns that coal mine, they can't do anything about being exploited.


[25-May-19 09:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
If your business doesn't do well you do not make a profit, when you don't make a profit have a hard time getting backing from shareholders, leading to lower capital unless you have a partner who is contributing to your business shouldering the burden


[25-May-19 10:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
You see: this is the problem I have with arguing with capitalists and business majors like you. You always argue how capitalism works. It's like saying we should have guns because when you pull a trigger it releases a bit of spring that strikes a firing pin on a bullet and explodes the powder or firing material in the blast cap to apply acceleration to the bullet that pushes it through and out the barrel.


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
And hey, guess what: both of these things - capitalism and a gun firing - leads to bad shit.


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
So why does it matter if the goal of capitalism is to make profit? Or course it is. But the profit motive is bad. What right does a capitalist have to exploit other people?


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A Business Major?


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
You said you were a Buisiness major


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or marketing


[25-May-19 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Either way


[25-May-19 10:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
No, I took Business Principles, Small Business Entrepreneurship, Marketing, Marking Management, Career Management and Business Law in High school ,


[25-May-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[25-May-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I took college shit.


[25-May-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
But whatever I gotta watch pone.


[25-May-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm not going to throw down with someone whose only experience is High School propaganda.


[25-May-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
is this the part where we start shitposting


[25-May-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-May-19 10:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Such smugness


[25-May-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i took interpersonal relationships in community college, which told me fuck all because it was an online class, it did teach me about different types of business hierarchies though and why some countries run far better than others


[25-May-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And you haven't produced anything new, @Sally Moon  lmao


[25-May-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
interpersonal is better taught in person because you need to learn body language


[25-May-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but nooo


[25-May-19 10:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Just because my learning has hit a glass ceiling does not mean I cannot hold my own in a discussion involving Business, Marketing and Economics


[25-May-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
>hit a glass ceiling
lmao


[25-May-19 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
You know that people don't actually innovate for the money? Cause the people innovating are salaried the profit goes to some dumbass with an MBA


[25-May-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america runs on the pyramid model, which is one guy at the top supported by a board fo directors, with everyone else making up the bottom and if one of those bricks steps out of the bottom, either it all collapses or the brick gets punished for speaking out of turn and forced back into it's hole.  the innovaters and idea men are used as foot stools and if they dare bring up an idea when they arent asked they get shunted.


[25-May-19 10:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that many companies - or all - use government research to cut back on Research and Development and release those as a copyrighted product.


[25-May-19 10:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Including Pharma


[25-May-19 10:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everything in pharma is actually developed by the US government


[25-May-19 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
Yeah pretty much everything in a smartphone was bought with public money research


[25-May-19 10:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
And Phizer buys something up and repackages it


[25-May-19 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
Public funding, private profits how the hell is that a good system?


[25-May-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even the stuff Facebook and Amazon uses to collect data on its users was developed for the CIA by... the CIA


[25-May-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
We are living in the American China


[25-May-19 10:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Those would started the company bared the most burden. If I started a small business and I went under you can just look for another job


[25-May-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not at all a good system


[25-May-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a broken systemt hat only supports the 100 or so millionaires and billionaires runnign it all


[25-May-19 10:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
A person who starts a failed buisiness can still sell it for over a million while the rest of us go through months of humiliation to go get a job.


[25-May-19 10:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Where as the small buisiness owner just rolls over the money made off the bankruptcy to start over.


[25-May-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and god fuck you if you live in the rurals


[25-May-19 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or get scooped up by a larger firm in a high position


[25-May-19 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
>those that started the business
Right cause all the failed business leave so many C suite assholes out of a job


[25-May-19 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Steve Balmer wasn't even the creator of Microsoft but when they "fired" him they gave him most of a billion dollars to leave


[25-May-19 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
Because Vista and the work environment at MS was so bad


[25-May-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck since trades are becoming popular it;s only a matter of time before even that has no job openings


[25-May-19 10:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Get into STEM" they said. "We want cheaper coders." they don't admit


[25-May-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"go into HVAC" they said  "It's profitable" they said "It totally wont become over saturated" they lied


[25-May-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Tarrifs will never kill its livability" they also lied unknowing that Trump would be Trump


[25-May-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-03-05-i-wasnt-raised-to-remain-silent-says-student-who-picked-up-eff-rubbish/


[25-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AshKSkeet/status/1132362333936865281

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[25-May-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[25-May-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(though "to be fair", in Germany "nazi" meant "village idiot retrograde" since before the nazis, and it was the term used by germans to insult the nazis)


[25-May-19 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, in Bavaria mostly I believe.


[25-May-19 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also: https://twitter.com/USArmy/status/1131704927963766785

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U.S. Army (@USArmy)
https://twitter.com/USArmy/status/1131704927963766785
How has serving impacted you?
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[25-May-19 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Right off the bat


[25-May-19 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking owned


[25-May-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Should stuck to video games


[25-May-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter is a first-post minefield


[25-May-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Second vet story: You fuckers broke me and tossed me out on the street and refused to help me, and now I have no trust in anyone any more from the trauma and I feel alone. Fuck you (paraphrased)


[25-May-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.americasarmy.com/


[25-May-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still going strong 17 years later


[25-May-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
"The strain of my deployment was too much for my wife to bear. She committed suicide in our home when I had just one month left. When my mental state deteriorated, I was sent to counseling so my COC could check off a box and say “they did everything they could”. (1/2)"


[25-May-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I turned to alcohol and other vices. I begged to be sent to any other unit in a different state, just needing a change of scenery. Instead, I was demoted and discharged. Dumped like a bag of trash when I had at one time shown great promise as a leader and soldier.(2/2)"


[25-May-19 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(should gone navy or air force etc.)


[25-May-19 10:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
"My son came back from Afghanistan not even knowing why we were in Afghanistan."


[25-May-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Same for my stepsons. Well, OK, that’s not entirely true. They believe they risked their lives/health/sanity/futures in Afghanistan for no reason other than to make already wealthy war profiteers even wealthier. And I believe they’re right."


[25-May-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, there are soldiers in Afghanistan born after the excuse to invade Afghanistan...


[25-May-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yeah, which is terrifying in its own right.


[25-May-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like what the fuck are we doing now?


[25-May-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile we've killed more civilians this past year than the Taliban or any of the insurgents we're fighting.


[25-May-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh you want to turn in your superiors for war crimes? Shut the fuck up, we're pardoning them for memorial day"


[25-May-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/24/18637360/trump-war-crimes-pardons-gallagher-golsteyn-fox-news-hegseth

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Trump’s interest in pardoning troops accused of war crimes, expl...
The military doesn’t want these pardons. But Fox News does.
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[25-May-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm actually serious here


[25-May-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1132105534977585152

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Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy)
https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1132105534977585152
Around 11:30 on the night of November 8, 2016 I tweeted “What will happen to people like me?”

For days, people ridiculed me, told me I was being overly dramatic, and so on. I deleted that tweet, but looking back, I wasn’t nearly alarmed enough.
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[25-May-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is there a single urban area he has helped


[25-May-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
that wouldn't be owning the libs


[26-May-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he hasnt evne helped rural areas


[26-May-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just paid off farmers not to complain


[26-May-19 12:13 AM] ononim#8141
https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-says-hyperloop-tunnel-is-now-just-a-normal-1835024474

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Elon Musk Says ‘Hyperloop’ Tunnel Is Now Just a Normal Car Tun...
Back in 2017, Elon Musk had grand visions for the Hyperloop test track built by The Boring Company, his tunneling firm, in Los Angeles. It would have proprietary vehicles with varying capacities for private travel, public transport, or freight. They would travel along electri...
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[26-May-19 12:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean NYC is getting pencil towers and someone is benefiting from those just not most residents


[26-May-19 12:19 AM] Honahue#0656
This is capitalist innovation


[26-May-19 12:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Thanks Musk for making a worse subway


[26-May-19 12:22 AM] Honahue#0656
I need to go to Silicon valley cause I too can propose excellent investment opportunities like a subway but bad


[26-May-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you make fun of him you're a pedophile


[26-May-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1131828564473499648


[26-May-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_TODD_


[26-May-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1132266545470689281

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rob delaney (@robdelaney)
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1132266545470689281
WHYYY did I wait so long to watch this?? So happy to share with my American friends after it’s made the rounds here in the UK. https://t.co/6Jfuu7uRcw
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[26-May-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
At first I thought Daenerys was on the thumbnail and I was really waiting for some shitposty GoT thing


[26-May-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now I want a version where Bronn is saying this.


[26-May-19 01:53 AM] ononim#8141
he looks more like gentrified Davos


[26-May-19 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJNOKLBylg

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Clementine Productions™
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJNOKLBylg
The Memeification of Minority Rights
Follow me on Twitch! https://www.twitch.tv/clementineproductionstm -- Spider-Man/Miku art: https://twitter.com/CRADLEGUM/status/1101819387860918272 AOC said ...
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[26-May-19 12:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/doug_ellison/status/1132443682018226176

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Doug Ellison (@doug_ellison)
https://twitter.com/doug_ellison/status/1132443682018226176
Ok. Starlink's kind of blown up over the past 48 hours.   Let's get some things straight. Despite their creator insisting otherwise they WILL be naked eye visible, for at least an hour, more like two, after dark and before dawn.  In higher latitudes in summer...all night.....
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[26-May-19 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
I don't understand, what's the problem here?


[26-May-19 01:35 PM] ononim#8141
^^^


[26-May-19 01:35 PM] ononim#8141
I ahte to defend the manchilionaire but


[26-May-19 01:35 PM] ononim#8141
half of the arguemnt is so stupid
"oh noes, you can always see in the night a looks at the note a think line of artificial light. we ruined nature! the night sky is no longer!"
It's not fucking space bilboard nad it reeks of crypto anti-civ/primitivism or worse yet ecofash stuff
night sky is already altered for most of human population via light pollution a lot more than a "this thin light line is a spacecraft"
I don't know about astronomy concern, and they might be legit but it's really transparent they're pushing for "evil humans marring the virigin sky" bull


[26-May-19 01:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whoever's upset about this clearly was unaware of the concept of iridium flares


[26-May-19 01:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which was *exactly* the same thing, 's just now starlink flares


[26-May-19 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought people were getting really mad about that starfox game


[26-May-19 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1132156159626899459

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https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1132156159626899459
A mere 24 hours after Modi's Hindutva fascist government retains and expands power in India's election, an extremist mob lynch this Muslim man, viciously beating him, while forcing him to praise Hindu god. https://t.co/tAkM4JpHgC
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[26-May-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
call me alt right but I just realized that I went through two gallons of milk in as many days

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[26-May-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i drink a lot of milk


[26-May-19 06:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
I did growing up, but now I just use it for cereal cuz money


[26-May-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/_shyextrovert/status/1132496087565123584?s=19

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age of annihilation (@_shyextrovert)
https://twitter.com/_shyextrovert/status/1132496087565123584?s=19
Remember when ronald reagan starred in a movie where he fights against john brown
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[26-May-19 09:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@AaronMk That vet story sounds 1:1 like a story from USSR soldiers on Afghanistan. No story record, risks for no reason, etc...


[26-May-19 09:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which means that they "did not partake"  in any service, because the entire activity was "top secret".


[26-May-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/aca0f0570d7346c18092b1ee42a62c74 this image is jsut amazing out of context

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The Latest: Trump to meet Japan's emperor, talk with Abe
TOKYO (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump's trip to Japan (all times local): 2:20 a.m. Monday After a day spent playing golf and watching sumo wrestling, President Donald Trump...
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[26-May-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it looks like a very joyful japanese man sittign at a table with a very cartoonish grumpy looking elderly man stereotype


[26-May-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
complete with toupee that looks way too small for his head


[26-May-19 09:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/7Xio_oovJMk

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/7Xio_oovJMk
The Mediocre Dictator
Do you really need a description? *******Link to full thumbnail Image: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNNk7qi4Ejq8edClQPPC43IiYzcIHto74if2pXE3wa1M1WKgQ...
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[26-May-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/PEubDDvyw2Y

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Dragonflame Media
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[Prager U YTP] Is Your Child Getting Enough Vitamin N
Is your child getting enough Vitamin N? John Rosemond explains how the lack of Vitamin N damages the minds of children and society as a whole.
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[26-May-19 11:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Why are you posting unedited PragerU vids?


[26-May-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Why not


[26-May-19 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOORXvZE2lo
YTP Dennis Prager rallies the troops for the War on Christmas
after 2 years, this was my breakthrough
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[27-May-19 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
You know why communism isn't hated as much as Nazism?


[27-May-19 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
They have better music


[27-May-19 12:20 AM] Mikey#7286
*SOVIET THEME PLAYS LOUDLY*


[27-May-19 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/UctriMuXYS0

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VocalNationalAnthems
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China National anthem Chinese & English lyrics
March of the Volunteers ( traditional Chinese: 義勇軍進行曲; pinyin: Yìyǒngjūn Jìnxíngqǔ) is the national anthem of the People's Republic of China (including the H...
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[27-May-19 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs

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rascrifice
https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs
National Anthem of USSR
The mighty anthem of USSR.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U06jlgpMtQs/hqdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJmGaBMQJ8

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aeuiuiuiuiui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJmGaBMQJ8
Ernst Busch - Der heimliche Aufmarsch (HQ)
Much higher quality audio than I can find anywhere easily on youtube. German lyrics: Es geht durch die Welt ein Geflüster - Arbeiter, hörst du es nicht? Das ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HYJmGaBMQJ8/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 12:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Very optimistic songs...
> flesh and blood build our new great wall


[27-May-19 12:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[27-May-19 12:22 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/rG_Ue3t17l0

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/rG_Ue3t17l0
[YTP] Good Old P.U.
A nice fireside chat with Dennis and his Prager pals. Also, no, I'm not dead. OR AM I?????
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rG_Ue3t17l0/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Socialism is based on toilet paper


[27-May-19 12:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Youll be *dying* to live in a such country. *ba dum tss*


[27-May-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
:nut:


[27-May-19 12:24 AM] Mikey#7286
I wanna die


[27-May-19 12:24 AM] Mikey#7286
:beheaded:


[27-May-19 12:24 AM] Mikey#7286
⚔


[27-May-19 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
Behead me daddy


[27-May-19 12:25 AM] Mikey#7286
@Nebbie


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry, but executions went out of favor in the mid 20th century.


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
Fuck


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll just hav to settle for a railroad accident.


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Psst.


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Mikey#7286
I'll make my own guillotine then


[27-May-19 12:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Middle *cough*  east


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32WSJyd-NM

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Comrade Stalin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32WSJyd-NM
Catherine Ribeiro - La Guillotine Permanente
uploading because the other video has one ear syndrome. Lyrics: Deputy Guillotin In medicine Quite expert and quite clever, Made a machine To purge the Frenc...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t32WSJyd-NM/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
It's gotta be clean and fast tho


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're fast, but not clean.


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get that ten seconds of confused life in


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure last time guilotine was used in France was a middle of 20th century


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
1977


[27-May-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Middle of the 20th century was Germany


[27-May-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis used guillotines.


[27-May-19 12:28 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There was a vid, where it tells you how it would feel to be beheaded by gulliotine


[27-May-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
"The guillotine remained the official method of execution in France until the death penalty was abolished in 1981.[3] The final three guillotinings in France before its abolition were those of child-murderers Christian Ranucci (on 28 July 1976) in Marseille, Jérôme Carrein (on 23 June 1977) in Douai and torturer-murderer Hamida Djandoubi (on 10 September 1977) in Marseille."


[27-May-19 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
They're cleaner than slowly cutting your head off with a knife


[27-May-19 12:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[27-May-19 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
@Эᴚ|∫ link


[27-May-19 12:29 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Look up on youtube


[27-May-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Saudis use CURVED SWORD


[27-May-19 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
something something long drop


[27-May-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Head goes flying from blood pressure, then doctor puts gloved hand over the nekk


[27-May-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause ain't no hippocratic oath in Saudi Arabia etc.


[27-May-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
In Japan when they performed ritual suicide the person in charge of cutting off the head wasn't supposed to make a clean cut all the way through. They were allowed only to cut as far as to sever the spinal column while leaving a bit of flesh at the front. That way the head remained attached and when the body slumped over it would fall into and rest in the lap/hands of the victim


[27-May-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just find it fascinating that for livestock, the US has perfected the captive bolt gun, but on humans the only method that's acceptable anymore is a cocktail of expensive drugs that *maybe* works


[27-May-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that I'm a fan of capital punishment in general


[27-May-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat, it's because spectators would see the wound from the captive bolt pistol


[27-May-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just a very interesting juxtaposition


[27-May-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
If they cut all the way through it was a disgrace to the guy who had to cut the head off to end the punishment of having the guts torn out since they made a mess and probably hit someone with the person's head


[27-May-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a farce to make the average person watching it not see anything gruesome.


[27-May-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The ethical can of worms contained in that sentence...


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Kinder, gentler machine gun hands


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
For sure


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is a horrible place


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
full of horrible people


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically hav the attitude that executions should be something a 5 year old could watch.


[27-May-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just put him to sleep is all, little Timmy!


[27-May-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like he's in pain we can't see because they put in a paralytic agent to mask him being awake as his veins feel like they burn from the inside out!


[27-May-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
"In 1996 in the US, Georgia State Representative Doug Teper[36] unsuccessfully sponsored a bill to replace that state's electric chair with the guillotine.[37]"


[27-May-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Heh


[27-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
I can't find it


[27-May-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man imagine if Arthur had an episode where a character got executed


[27-May-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alabama would be pissed off even more


[27-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
@Эᴚ|∫


[27-May-19 12:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/06/russian-suicide-homemade-guillotine/1#.XOsUhRZKiM8

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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/06/russian-suicide-homemade-guillotine/1
Russian engineer commits suicide with homemade guillotine
A 47-year-old Russian engineer has committed suicide with a homemade guillotine that he built secretly in his room in his parents' house, Pravda reports.


[27-May-19 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
I heard about that


[27-May-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
>not showing a picture of what he built


[27-May-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how big was his room


[27-May-19 12:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, partially decapitated


[27-May-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-May-19 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not *particularly* graphic. But


[27-May-19 12:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Mikey https://youtu.be/2Hm9jjAJnsE

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Joe Scott
https://youtu.be/2Hm9jjAJnsE
How Long Does A Severed Head Remain Conscious? | Random Thursday
This video is not for the squeamish. Support me on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/answerswithjoe Follow me at all my places! Instagram: https://instagram.co...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2Hm9jjAJnsE/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 12:41 AM] Mikey#7286
O


[27-May-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(glances around wondering about discord's general policies on this subject matter)


[27-May-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general you can't advocate suicide or show actual gore, but you can talk about it.


[27-May-19 12:43 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[27-May-19 12:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this was on my recommendations a while ago.


[27-May-19 12:48 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And there is *actual* gore and animal abuse on yt.


[27-May-19 12:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Dont ask how i got there.


[27-May-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, 30 seconds is a bit much, you most likely are pretty dazed due to blood loss for that time, and that one doctor's journal isn't considered too reliable.


[27-May-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some experiments recently on rats that show brain activity after decapitation, it plummets a lot but is very spiky and such over the course of a minute or so.


[27-May-19 12:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> watches hi tech videos
> watches wildlife videos
> watches guns videos
> watches a video with tame title, where wild predators undergoing population control.


[27-May-19 12:58 AM] Mikey#7286
I imagine you'd have a moment of sharp pain in your neck when the blade cuts through


[27-May-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
For sure.


[27-May-19 01:02 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEo8naFbXI

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Vaush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEo8naFbXI
JOCKO SMASH - a Response to PragerU (ft. 6 Minutes of Hysterical L...
This is probably the happiest I've been in weeks. I take it all back - I'm a theist now. I'm a theist and I praise God for guiding my cursor to this video We...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZMEo8naFbXI/hqdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 01:02 AM] ononim#8141
Grug owns the libtards


[27-May-19 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Emote gift

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[27-May-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol this comment @Nebbie


[27-May-19 01:06 AM] Mikey#7286
<https://derpibooru.org/1648630#comment_7113304>


[27-May-19 01:13 AM] Pretty#9306
I think the sudden lost of blood pressure would make you unconscious either instantly or in a few seconds


[27-May-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It depends on how shokk interplays with that.


[27-May-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
More experimentation on animals might provide better answers, but unfortunately the tools for determining consciousness don't provide sufficient information right now.


[27-May-19 01:17 AM] Pretty#9306
when people have a sudden lost of blood pressure in the brain, like for example when someone gets up too fast or when they get into a high G-force carnival ride they lose conscience instantly


[27-May-19 01:19 AM] Mikey#7286
Some people don't lose conscious instantly


[27-May-19 01:19 AM] Mikey#7286
Do those people feel their heads hitting the ground?


[27-May-19 01:20 AM] Pretty#9306
maybe, but I bet they would be in an altered state of mind because of the mix of low blood pressure and trauma to the spinal cord


[27-May-19 01:21 AM] Pretty#9306
we may never know


[27-May-19 01:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Unless someone came back from an accidental beheading or something


[27-May-19 02:00 AM] Honahue#0656
there have been survivors of internal decapitation but that's a different thing than a guillotine


[27-May-19 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanto-occipital_dislocation

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanto-occipital_dislocation
Atlanto-occipital dislocation
Atlanto-occipital dislocation, orthopedic decapitation, or internal decapitation describes ligamentous separation of the spinal column from the skull base. It is possible for a human to survive such an injury; however, only 30% of cases do not result in immediate death. It sh...


[27-May-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-uploaded-1-5-million-users-email-contacts-without-permission-2019-4

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https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-uploaded-1-5-million-users-email-contacts-without-permission-2019-4
Facebook says it 'unintentionally uploaded' 1.5 million people's e...
Facebook said that the new privacy issue stemmed from a code change from May 2016.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5cb7bd7dfa99af0aa91ab1e4-1920-960.jpg


[27-May-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
ZUCC DEMANDS YOUR DATA


[27-May-19 02:23 AM] Honahue#0656
god I'm glad I deleted my account


[27-May-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/YKGQpWvT5NI

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Vaush
https://youtu.be/YKGQpWvT5NI
Is Vaush a Vegan? Debate with Ask Yourself
HOOOOOO BOY I LOVE VEGANISM DEBATES New website - https://www.vaush.gg/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/VaushV Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/vaush Donate -...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YKGQpWvT5NI/hqdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/755967a530af4896989f671cfcf2fd39

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https://apnews.com/755967a530af4896989f671cfcf2fd39
North Korea calls Bolton 'war monger' over missile comment
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea on Monday called U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton a "war monger" and "human defect" after he described its recent tests of short-range missiles as a...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:f10275067c3d4eb6a7814d6fa9d78f25/3000.jpeg


[27-May-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://time.com/5596103/kkk-rally-dayton-ohio/

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http://time.com/5596103/kkk-rally-dayton-ohio/
9 People Showed Up for a KKK Rally in Dayton, Ohio. They Were Drow...
The Klan-affiliated group was confined to the courthouse square, and the members were separated from protestors by a fence.
http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/dayton-kkk-protest-sign.jpg?quality=85&crop=0px%2C599px%2C4256px%2C2128px&resize=1024%2C512&strip

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[27-May-19 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/if-i-disappear-chinese-student-amid-crackdown-over-labour-activism-2043082

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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/if-i-disappear-chinese-student-amid-crackdown-over-labour-activism-2043082
"If I Disappear...": Chinese Student Amid Crackdown Over Labour Ac...
The video opens with the 21-year-old sociology student facing the camera. His voice quivers as he recounts his interrogation - his humiliation - for days at the hands of Beijing police.
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2019-05/mjg275a_chinese-student-activist-qiu-zhanxuanpeking-university-_625x300_26_May_19.jpg


[27-May-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/375515aecedb4aed949e4f2eb9c54eb6

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https://apnews.com/375515aecedb4aed949e4f2eb9c54eb6
AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit for Obama's gains for vets
WASHINGTON (AP) — Boastful on the occasion of Memorial Day, President Donald Trump and his Veterans Affairs secretary are claiming full credit for health care improvements that were underway...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:6750b0e4a27141c593fc6942ffefedab/3000.jpeg


[27-May-19 07:14 PM] Lilly#4737
relationships to press in russia

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[27-May-19 07:14 PM] Lilly#4737

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[27-May-19 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
hey!


[27-May-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
At least if you have it you have a slight chance to not get OMONed!


[27-May-19 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AXuoHnpCOQmalE5nh2eHr_Q

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https://apple.news/AXuoHnpCOQmalE5nh2eHr_Q
Trump's ban on Chinese telecom giant Huawei could cut off rural Am...
"These rural areas are going to not get served, and it puzzles me why these senators ... don’t see the problem here,” a former FCC commissioner said.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQVh1b0hucENPUW1hbEU1bmgyZUhyX1EAMA


[27-May-19 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
I don't fucking get people who want china to "win" globally, it's a shithole for workers and freedom of thought


[27-May-19 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
>"The government is scared because the domestic contradictions are growing," Michael said. "Once you study Marxism, you know real socialism and China's so-called socialism with Chinese characteristics are two different things. They sell fascism as socialism, like a street vendor passes off dog meat as lamb."


[27-May-19 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
apparently china's government made a huge mistake in their propaganda teaching by letting students have uncensored access to original marxist theory


[27-May-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
so now they basically have to put down one, maybe two generations of students, which will kill the country in the long term


[27-May-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
it's already fucked due to their one child policy


[27-May-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
but it'll be fucked even harder


[27-May-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not real Communism


[27-May-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, anyone whose studied communism knows that what china has going isn't communism, it's more similar to state capitalism than anything left of socialism


[27-May-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Why the fuck are we even concerned about someone "winning"? We're not playing a game. This is literaly Trump language shit.


[27-May-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
if there is to be an overarching global "culture", it must absolutely not be dominated by china's current government


[27-May-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
that's currently the direction that the world is moving


[27-May-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
China winning means loss of human rights


[27-May-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The goal is to weaken China's philosophy into oblivion while letting it as a nation grow


[27-May-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that when it eventually dominates, it's doing so with US-like values


[27-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, literal Trump and Blue Dog ideology.


[27-May-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Desist, politics isn't a game.


[27-May-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's philosophy is horrid and should be destroyed.


[27-May-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
basically, china is using their giant ass market potential as leverage to push their oppressive views on homosexuality/transgenderism/revisionist history/etc on the world by just refusing to let companies that don't adhere to their shitty censorship laws operate in their country, the quickest and dirtiest way to fix this is to get rid of capitalism on a global scale, but that's not something that's going to happen without a massive global war that involves a lot of nukes


[27-May-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
and you're too smart to not realize the similarities between politics and games, there's a reason why the second book is called "a game of thrones", and a lot of politics has rules just as arbitrary as games


[27-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
sure, you don't actually want to consider politics as games in the long run, but there is almost always a winner and a loser in political dealings


[27-May-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
like transgenders are losing on almost all fronts in the US right now


[27-May-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
just because of who is the current president


[27-May-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
but china is currently sending transgenders (and muslims, and anyone who doesn't agree with them) to "re-education" concentration camps


[27-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that discord is owned by a chinese company


[27-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
I tried sending a message thrice that got rejected three times in a row


[27-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
but china is currently sending transgenders (and muslims, and anyone who doesn't agree with them) to "re-education" concentration camps


[27-May-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
okay, it finally got through lol


[27-May-19 08:45 PM] ISamusI#5581
Is there anything that’s auto detected on here that might get people in trouble?


[27-May-19 08:45 PM] ISamusI#5581
Message wise


[27-May-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
no


[27-May-19 08:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
Gotcha.


[27-May-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
not in the US, at least


[27-May-19 08:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
That’s good


[27-May-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, if successfully forcing a oppressive culture onto the world isn't considered "winning", what would be the term for china successfully exporting its cultural oppression to other countries then?


[27-May-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that trump is fighting china, he's right for the wrong reasons


[27-May-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
he's just fighting them in the completely wrong way that only makes their position stronger


[27-May-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
we could call it cultural war, I guess


[27-May-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why there's a "culture victory" in games like civilization


[27-May-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, I passed this all by smarter people and they're fucking laughing at how yall's geopolitical critique is so fucking worried about movies and video games. This is literal alt-right tier garbage time politics. Like everything is trash because this one thing exists when the one thing actually has a small over all impact. You could worry about the 'winning' when it's in relationship to physical control of material resources and stuff. But you're all missing the point by a mile.


[27-May-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
but that would be going back in the direction of calling politics a game


[27-May-19 08:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
Politics is weird. And annoying


[27-May-19 08:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the fact you're thinking of this in terms of a video game like Civilization is kind of a show to how poisoned your mind is.


[27-May-19 08:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
At least with how it’s done


[27-May-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
I literally just asked you to describe it in a way that isn't in the context of video games, are you going to do that or just do the same fucking thing that the trumpanzees do and make fun of people for not agreeing with them?


[27-May-19 08:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
Only reason it would be a game is if there were rules people had to follow. That often isn’t the case.


[27-May-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
why aren't video games and movies important? they're a reflection of culture


[27-May-19 08:50 PM] ISamusI#5581
Exploiting them may feel like a fun game to them though


[27-May-19 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow It's the same Realpolitiks since the 18th century. The cultural things China does doesn't ever add into it. Not even ideology. When people assess geopolitics they assess it by other factors. Where power is moving in a region based on who or what is not there. ie: if we're not in Asia, then China movies on Asia. If we're not in Africa. China moves on Africa. And China does a lot of the same shit America does, it establishes networks and governments friendly to it so they work on their economic terms in order to feed their material economy. Chinese only becomes taught as an effect of having to communicate with the center of the Chinese sphere of influence: China. But it's not going to have an effect on the cultural or internal legal situations within these countries, or not in as severe a way the thesis presented claims.


[27-May-19 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, in normal geopolitical analysis cultural and legal institutions remaining the same is one of the baseline factors to every realpolitikal situation.


[27-May-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
But fretting over a "culture victory" isn't really a thing. Since even with wonton soup the cultural development of America itself is going to go on its own.


[27-May-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Whether or not five movies a year is distributed to China.


[27-May-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
And these movies are dumb-dumb unthinking movies that don't hinge on anyone being gay or trans.


[27-May-19 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because those were the easiest to mass market anyways. It's easier to sell mass spectacle than it is to sell a thing on it tackling gay issues.


[27-May-19 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
As my friend said on this movie issue: "I mean, usually with internal politics you can divorce that from strategy. In the US regardless of whether it's Dems or Reps you're probably pretty solid in assuming America is gonna still be the same America"


[27-May-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you put gay rights into the mass-market spectacles


[27-May-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
alright, that's much better than saying someone's mind is "poisoned" since it actually explains why the viewpoint is wrong instead of just calling people "poisoned", I get enough of that from my mom to also be getting it from someone much more reasonable


[27-May-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
china still has the potential to exert a huge amount of cultural pressure on the world though, just like the US has been doing with all the rising fascism as the leader of the most powerful country on the planet edges closer to full blown dictatorship


[27-May-19 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Geopolitically the concept of "winning" or "losing" only implies so far as someone having a measurably distinct advantage. For example: so-and-so spends more on the army, so-and-so has a higher GDP, so-and-so has more territory, so-and-so has ...


[27-May-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't mean "winning" or "losing" in the absolute terms


[27-May-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
that's why I put it in quotation marks


[27-May-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
I meant it in the "general moving in that direction" way


[27-May-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
nothing in politics is as absolute as "winning" or "losing" most of the time


[27-May-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if there's a more general term though


[27-May-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
I'm thinking something as strong as the nazis systemically destroying jews/gypsies/etc is the closest you can get to "winning" and "losing" in politics


[27-May-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is the ultimate "win as much as possible" approach, and it just burns itself out by constantly going for victories that are pointless.


[27-May-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#Other_victims_of_Nazi_persecution>


[27-May-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
jesus, they even killed jehovah's witnesses


[27-May-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
why do people hate jehovah's witnesses?


[27-May-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
and then gays and blacks as well


[27-May-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well in the nazi's case, Jehovah's witnesses tend to be self contained communities which are a dictator's prefered type of people to kill because it dissuades the others who arent a self contained community from becoming so. Jehovah's witnesses also have a world wide network which even for the time was probably pretty large. so it sends a message to that network not to get involved. also they're another religion which the nazis weren;t a part of  and that just isn;t allowed.


[27-May-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can't tell you why most other people hate thme though


[27-May-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they seem like overly friendly people


[27-May-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
self contained communities tend to take care of themselves, ignore the outside world except to spread their message, and generally don't operate liek the rest of the country


[27-May-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This isn't super great in a dictatorship where your entire goal is controlling the entire populace with absolution and the intent to make them all dependant on you as a ruler.


[27-May-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also invites dissenters to join those communities to escape your reign which is also bad for business


[27-May-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Maybe the nazis were sick of the door to door :twismug:

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[27-May-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/business/status/1132793236462944258?s=21

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Bloomberg (@business)
https://twitter.com/business/status/1132793236462944258?s=21
Tokyo is an early harbinger of changes that are coming to the rest of Japan: more foreign workers, less homogeneity https://t.co/SnHU6pojQq via @bopinion
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[27-May-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Notice one Japanese person in the comments?


[27-May-19 10:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
wew


[27-May-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEuMFJSZmpc

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Scott Manley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEuMFJSZmpc
Will Starlink & Other Satellite Networks Ruin The Night Sky For As...
There's a lot of concern right now about the future of Earth based astronomy with the prospect of thousands more satellites getting in the way of ground base...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GEuMFJSZmpc/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-May-19 11:24 PM] ononim#8141
Now that's a legit concern
because I've seen enough of "it will not look pretty >:^( Night sky ruined, literally ungazeful"
also how useful the starlink in particular would be


[28-May-19 12:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
isn't Scott Manley the guy who plays space games?


[28-May-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye, he played a lot of Kerbal Space Program back in the days


[28-May-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I subbed to him for the space themed games


[28-May-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So far I haven't found any articles saying that the president did pardon the people he said he would, so is no news good news? Was he dissuaded? Or has it just not happened yet


[28-May-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is he even back in the country


[28-May-19 12:56 AM] Mikey#7286
Hullo I'm Scott Manley


[28-May-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He is in talks to pardon them, we don't know if he will but if he does it;s clearly to send some kind of message


[28-May-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1b5aiTrGzY

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Egor Zakharov
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Few-Shot Adversarial Learning of Realistic Neural Talking Head Models
Statement regarding the purpose and effect of the technology (NB: this statement reflects personal opinions of the authors and not of their organizations) We...
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[28-May-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48422732

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Austrian leader ousted after secret video row
Opposition parties backed the vote after the collapse of Chancellor Sebastian Kurz's coalition.
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[28-May-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445382-sanders-slams-calls-to-apologize-for-opposing-war-with-iran

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Sanders refuses to apologize for opposing war with Iran
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) took aim at calls for him to "apologize" for his refusal to support U.S. armed conflicts in the Middle East, saying Friday that he was "right" about past U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_052219as2_lead.jpg


[28-May-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Good


[28-May-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://youtu.be/4zUThhvVbC8

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Senator Bernie Sanders
https://youtu.be/4zUThhvVbC8
No War With Iran!
I was right about Vietnam. I was right about Iraq. I will do everything in my power to prevent a war with Iran, and I apologize to no one.
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[28-May-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society https://i.redd.it/lxslz31fnr031.jpg

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[28-May-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if this person knows that almost nothing on the menu in a chinese restaurant is traditional, ethnic food


[28-May-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(and just for funsies, the gathering spot for my local Chinese church's bible study is the local Panera bread)


[28-May-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
the next response is "ok"

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[28-May-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just give me a bag of fried noodles


[28-May-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b118f256955e439d8157743177765c0b

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https://apnews.com/b118f256955e439d8157743177765c0b
Texas lawmakers approve safe gun storage program despite NRA
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Lawmakers in gun-loving Texas have quietly gone around the National Rifle Association by slipping language into a massive spending bill that would fund a $1 million public...
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[28-May-19 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony People in the St. Louis metro get upset if you call it that


[28-May-19 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feels weird to see it typed out


[28-May-19 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well yeah it's st. louis bread co there


[28-May-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't know this


[28-May-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I remember reading some article a while ago explaining why the company uses a different name elsewhere


[28-May-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I remember *none of the details*


[28-May-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
inbread


[28-May-19 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Outbread

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[28-May-19 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inbread, outbread, inbread, outbread, inbread

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[28-May-19 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-01-06/the-politics-of-bread/

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The politics of bread - Resilience
Spurred by the fall of the Paris Commune, Kropotkin believed fervently that social transformation that dealt in ideals alone was destined to fail. A new society, he stressed, must be built on its ability to provide sustenance for all. More than a century later, bread is still...
https://www.resilience.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Food-Water-category-default.jpg


[28-May-19 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🅿️read


[28-May-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
I linked an article about how the geneology of wheat can be used to track human movement throughout history


[28-May-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
since everyone had their own special "brand" of wheat


[28-May-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wheat sweat


[28-May-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.helmholtz-muenchen.de/en/aktuelles/latest-news/press-information-news/article/46248/index.html

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press information / news – Helmholtz Zentrum München
First they mapped the genome of wheat; now they have reconstructed its breeding history. Joining forces with other European researchers, scientists at the Helmholtz Zentrum München have examined the genetic diversity of wheat varieties in the WHEALBI study. By doing so, they...


[28-May-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Did someone say 🅱read

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[28-May-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sweet wheat sweat


[28-May-19 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eat sweet wheat sweat, Sean Bean


[28-May-19 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-May-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/1133121398833057794

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My colleague just read me this excerpt from Nigel Farage's autobiography and I had to double check it wasn't a parody
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[28-May-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
THE ENGLISH


[28-May-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
ARE THEY HUMAN?


[28-May-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... who writes like this?


[28-May-19 03:38 AM] Honahue#0656
English aristocrats apparently


[28-May-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Nigel Farage has been called a man of the people


[28-May-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
But he is hardly from The People


[28-May-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
He probably was raped as part of his Classical British education hazing ritual.


[28-May-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
And he enjoyed it


[28-May-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/international-airport-machu-picchu-raises-concerns-180972245/

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Archaeologists, Tour Operators, Locals Raise Alarm Over Internatio...
They are petitioning the government to reconsider the project, which is planned to be completed by 2023


[28-May-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO0uOzJqgH8

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The Last Stand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO0uOzJqgH8
Alex Jones Assaulted by Coffee Throwing Goblin on the Street
Alex Jones was getting people woke on Globalism and the TPP and then suddenly young goblin with very bad teeth decided to assault him with coffee.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RO0uOzJqgH8/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-May-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
this is so cringy


[28-May-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow he got really sad


[28-May-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not that he wasnt to begin with


[28-May-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
this was back in 2017


[28-May-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/31/18289271/alex-jones-psychosis-conspiracies-sandy-hook-hoax

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Alex Jones blames "psychosis" for his Sandy Hook conspiracies
He now admits the shooting massacre was not a hoax.
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[28-May-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is alex jones in 2019


[28-May-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
basically being forced to call himself insane in order to not get destroyed in court


[28-May-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
"In a video released Friday, Jones acknowledged in a sworn deposition stemming from a lawsuit filed by the families of Sandy Hook victims that the school shooting was in fact real. Jones blamed the “trauma of the media and the corporations lying so much” for triggering his extreme distrust in news and information. "


[28-May-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
>“And I, myself, have almost had like a form of psychosis back in the past where I basically thought everything was staged, even though I’ve now learned a lot of times things aren’t staged,” he said.


[28-May-19 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[28-May-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully gets institutionalized


[28-May-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's a civil suit iirc, so that wouldn't happen


[28-May-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/6Ba7wtQ/comment/1655864475

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Converse
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[28-May-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism apologists confuse me


[28-May-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then there's stuff like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVaBBrGaGxM

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Unifiller Systems Inc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVaBBrGaGxM
Deco-bot Robotic Decorator
The Deco-Bot robotic cake & cupcake decorating machine takes decorating to a brand new level. From finishing cupcakes with classic twist rosettes to writing ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gVaBBrGaGxM/hqdefault.jpg


[28-May-19 08:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUx6YLzGXbY

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUx6YLzGXbY
The Chinese Style Social Credit Nightmare Is Already Here
The Chinese Style Social Credit System Is Already Here. In China you can be banned from high paying jobs, banned form trains and planes, you can have your pe...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yUx6YLzGXbY/hqdefault.jpg


[28-May-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh look, reactionary clikkbaity bullshit of likely no value.


[28-May-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see nothing in the description that actually cites where he got stuff from, so it's gonna be ass to actually figure out what the fukk he is talking about without slogging thru all of his spin on it.


[28-May-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But at a guess based on the description's wording, he's likening normal shaming tactics being cranked up to 11 in the modern age to China's system of scoring people.


[28-May-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A quikk skim of the visuals indicates he spends over the first third looking at an article about China's thing, likely intro stuff or actually not and he just argues right away


[28-May-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only other thing of note is something about a guy apparently banned from Facebook


[28-May-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
which likely means this is the usual "social media banned a conservative for harassing people therefore this is fascism"


[28-May-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, anyone who groups "conservatives" and "anti-war leftists" is clearly being disingenuous.


[28-May-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can just about guarantee based on the repetition of "far left" in description and tagging of the video, yet mentioning those two together, that this is an attempt to disguise far-right beliefs as leftist in the hopes that people will set off on the foot of OH NO THE LEFT IS IN DANGER WE MUST DEFEND THEM because admitting it's far right would make people realize the agenda.


[28-May-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In short, I've read the "book"'s cover, introduction, chapter titles, and bakk cover, and while I can't judge it with certainty, I can tell you if it contains an actually honest argument, then all of the info I've been presented was horribly incorrect; you keep linking blatant propaganda, do you really think it will indoctrinate anyone?


[28-May-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially after that one video whose entire argument was *literally unconstitutional*


[28-May-19 09:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you know with all that work you'd been better off watching it


[28-May-19 09:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or do you always give each video that much scrutiny before even watching it.


[28-May-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, this isn't new


[28-May-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
this is way old


[28-May-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
we've known about this for years


[28-May-19 09:13 AM] Mikey#7286
how about


[28-May-19 09:13 AM] Mikey#7286
_not_ linking videos


[28-May-19 09:13 AM] Mikey#7286
ever


[28-May-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
gotta pwn dem libs huh


[28-May-19 09:14 AM] Mikey#7286
huhuhuhuh


[28-May-19 09:15 AM] Mikey#7286
imaginary clowns/NPCs/SJWs etc


[28-May-19 09:31 AM] Torr#5078
🤔 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

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Dark Enlightenment
The Dark Enlightenment, also known as the neoreactionary movement, neoreaction and abbreviated NRx by its proponents, is an anti-democratic, anti-liberal, and reactionary movement that considers itself to be the antithesis to the Enlightenment. It broadly rejects egalitariani...


[28-May-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
this is the endgame of conservatism


[28-May-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
go back to totalitarian governments that never have any cultural or societal evolution ever


[28-May-19 09:40 AM] Torr#5078
The "final boss"


[28-May-19 09:40 AM] Torr#5078
I also remember, for people like ian shapiro, that democracy is not exactly a part of the enlightenment.


[28-May-19 09:41 AM] Mikey#7286
you mean Ben Shapiro


[28-May-19 09:42 AM] Torr#5078
@Mikey no https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Shapiro

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Ian Shapiro
Ian Shapiro (born September 28, 1956) is Sterling Professor of Political Science and Henry R. Luce Director of the MacMillan Center at Yale University. He is known primarily for interventions in debates on democracy and on methods of conducting social science research.  In de...


[28-May-19 09:43 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[28-May-19 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/us/politics/trump-climate-science.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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By CORAL DAVENPORT and MARK LANDLER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/us/politics/trump-climate-science.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Trump Administration Hardens Its Attack on Climate Science
In a significant escalation, policymakers are seeking to undermine or discard research showing the most dire risks of inaction on climate change.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/05/24/us/politics/00dc-cli-trump1/00dc-cli-trump1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-May-19 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>“The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler,” said the physicist, William Happer, who serves on the National Security Council as the president’s deputy assistant for emerging technologies.


[28-May-19 03:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...so we're calling climate change deniers Nazis™ now? Okay.


[28-May-19 03:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Except it's *nothing* like that, Mr. Happer :faceclaw:


[28-May-19 03:25 PM] ISamusI#5581
Didn’t see the nazi part. But this does sound a bit odd


[28-May-19 03:26 PM] ISamusI#5581
I think it’s the other way around


[28-May-19 03:26 PM] ISamusI#5581
The quoted person was making the association that people who demonize carbon are like the nazis demonizing Jews


[28-May-19 03:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
.__________________________________.


[28-May-19 03:27 PM] ISamusI#5581
Also found out how to not activate chat commands, put \ in front of it
\*m’lady\*


[28-May-19 03:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...wait, so... climate change *believers* are the bad people then? :wat:


[28-May-19 03:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
Not saying that personally, that’s just what this one particular guy says


[28-May-19 03:30 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Something politics related I guess but


[28-May-19 03:30 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Where is stooped_hooy


[28-May-19 03:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
Basically.


[28-May-19 03:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
..I suddenly need a tall glass of milk right now. Not sure why.


[28-May-19 03:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
Did you ingest hot sauce?


[28-May-19 03:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
Or apply it in peculiar areas?


[28-May-19 03:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah, *clearly* we're all Nazis just for providing a reasonable interpretation for our temperature measurements and noticing a scientifically reasonable link between CO2 and that significant warming


[28-May-19 03:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We should all be *tried at Nuremberg* for crimes against..... carbon dioxide or some shit


[28-May-19 03:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:faceclaw:


[28-May-19 03:48 PM] byte[]#2610
call everyone you don't like nazis


[28-May-19 04:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/btkx4q/til_that_during_the_gulf_war_when_faced_with/

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[28-May-19 04:01 PM] ononim#8141
americans be committing war crimes


[28-May-19 04:01 PM] ononim#8141
redditors be defending them


[28-May-19 04:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@IAmADeliciousPotato first they came for the carbon dioxide, but i didn't speak up, because i wasn't a carbon dioxide myself :pudding:

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[28-May-19 04:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
America did nothing wrong. ☠


[28-May-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy is the new head of Trumps "climate change council"


[28-May-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the board set up to sabotage climate change research, which they seem completely open about


[28-May-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a067e624d9414774aa386ea8bdcb49b1

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Supreme Court rejects appeal over transgender bathrooms
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court will not take up a challenge to a Pennsylvania school district's policy allowing transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond with...
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[28-May-19 04:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
Wait, didn’t we assess that the primary cause of the global issue is companies using coal etc?


[28-May-19 04:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
Factories and what not


[28-May-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, which is what they absolutely do not want


[28-May-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is entirely about profit bottom lines


[28-May-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is exxon, bp, trump, and other rich corporate people coming together under the executive branch to attempt to wipe out their enemies


[28-May-19 04:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
Now, who’s Exxon and bp?


[28-May-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil

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Exxon Mobil Corporation,  doing business as ExxonMobil, is an American multinational oil and gas corporation headquartered in Irving, Texas. It is the largest direct descendant of John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company, and was formed on November 30, 1999 by the merger of...
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[28-May-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP

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BP plc (formerly The British Petroleum Company plc, British Petroleum and BP Amoco plc) is a British multinational oil and gas company headquartered in London, United Kingdom. It is one of the world's seven oil and gas "supermajors", whose performance in 2012 made it the worl...
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[28-May-19 04:55 PM] ISamusI#5581
Jeez that’s a large building


[28-May-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exxon is one of the largest most powerful corporations in the world mostly because they hold most of the world;s fuel


[28-May-19 04:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
And it’s those very people that are causing the problems?


[28-May-19 04:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
We have the means for better fuel now - right?


[28-May-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, there's also the coal indusrty, and illegal dumpers who very much do not want to be stopped


[28-May-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nestle is probably included in them given their stance on natural resources


[28-May-19 05:01 PM] ISamusI#5581
Odd. How would they be stopped?


[28-May-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
regulation, new laws, getting Trump's sabotage cronies out of their positions


[28-May-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their goal is basically dismantle everything built to regulate them since the 1970's


[28-May-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and go back to operating like they did in the 1920's


[28-May-19 05:03 PM] ISamusI#5581
What was that like?


[28-May-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rivers were covered in toxic foam, people weren't well informed,  smoke stacks billowed out much worse thna they do now (in america), corporations knew that radioactive material was dangerous and thye still sold it to the general public and told employees that licking it was good for their health. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

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The Radium Girls were female factory workers who contracted radiation poisoning from painting watch dials with self-luminous paint. Painting was done by women at three different sites in the United States, and the term now applies to the women working at the facilities: the f...
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[28-May-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this story is part of why those regulations got started


[28-May-19 05:10 PM] ISamusI#5581
I remember my gram telling me about that


[28-May-19 05:11 PM] ISamusI#5581
So, how do *we* stop them?


[28-May-19 05:11 PM] ISamusI#5581
I feel like they’re not going to really wanna make these changes


[28-May-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we keep fighting to move forward and hold thme accountable for their bullshit. We also need Trump out of office


[28-May-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the best thign that's ever fuckin happened for them


[28-May-19 05:12 PM] ISamusI#5581
Who would work (that wouldn’t also start a war)?


[28-May-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no idea but i support bernie sanders. We also need to elect a better run congress and senate not owned by corporations


[28-May-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/db703f0bbe1342eb91409b035dcfba55

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Supreme Court upholds Indiana abortion law on fetal remains
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is upholding an Indiana law that requires abortion providers to dispose of aborted fetuses in the same way as human remains. But the justices are staying out of...
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[28-May-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The Supreme Court is upholding an Indiana law that requires abortion providers to dispose of aborted fetuses in the same way as human remains. But the justices are staying out of the debate over a broader, blocked provision that would prevent a woman in Indiana from having an abortion based on gender, race or disability.

The court split 7-2 in allowing Indiana to enforce the fetal remains measure that had been blocked by a federal appeals court. The justices said in an unsigned opinion that the case does not involve limits on abortion rights.

Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented. Ginsburg said in a short opinion that she believes that the issue does implicate a woman’s right to an abortion “without undue interference from the state.”


[28-May-19 05:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@ISamusI there is nothing you can do about it


[28-May-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pcgamer.com/us-loot-box-ban-bill-gains-bipartisan-support-in-the-senate/

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US loot box ban bill gains bipartisan support in the Senate
Two Democrats sign on to a Republican's bill.
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[28-May-19 05:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't believe we're finally going to defeat Take-Two EActivision hashtag rise up


[28-May-19 05:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Marukomuru but how?


[28-May-19 05:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
We have bipartisan support for the bill. It can't possibly fail now. No way the ESA won't just literally buy their way out of this, no sir


[28-May-19 05:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:twismug:


[28-May-19 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Totally failsafe


[28-May-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's as unsinkable as the titanic


[28-May-19 05:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Titanic 2, but all the icebergs melted due to global warming, so it's an alien invasion instead


[28-May-19 05:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Basically the same plot as Battleship but the humans lose :shrugpony:


[28-May-19 06:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So in sense, war thunder will be banned?


[28-May-19 06:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It has "time-saver" mechanics in it.


[28-May-19 06:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And obvious "pay to win" with premiun vehicles.


[28-May-19 06:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But this is too early to celebrate this until it is passed.  I've learned only belive things when I actually see the action.


[28-May-19 06:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why I tend to ignore articles, like this one. Politician supported, politician said that it should...


[28-May-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8b237d7970e0428d972a03584aa81ab8

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Disaster aid bill again blocked in House by GOP conservative
WASHINGTON (AP) — A second conservative Republican in as many House sessions stepped in on Tuesday to block a long-overdue $19 billion disaster aid bill that's a top priority for some of President...
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[28-May-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
On disposal of remains, that's a serious 1st amendment issue, actually


[28-May-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
the state forcing specific kinds of burials based on what happened is reaaaally stepping on religious freedom


[28-May-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also the students arguing right to privacy violation is absolutely ridiculous


[28-May-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav a right for your junk to only be seen by a specific gender determined specifically by birth and not later events.


[28-May-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
For one thing that's literally sexist on its face, to say it's fine for guys to see your junk but not girls


[28-May-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Glad SCOTUS just let the lower court ruling stand.


[28-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would like it if next they strukk down the bullshit in housing discrimination


[28-May-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
whereby as long as ANY space is somewhat potentially shared, they can discriminate on sex


[28-May-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because oh no guys and girls seeing each other in the laundry room!


[28-May-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's fukking Pence-level sexism, and it's enshrined in law, and as a result basically any landlord that isn't super remote can just outright say "females preferred ~ <3"


[28-May-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
by which they mean "bend over missy and daddy will let you miss a payment this month"


[28-May-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Unelected officials in the executive don't care if they are breaking the law


[28-May-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I doubt they'll obey a court order unless congress actually orders the capitol police to arrest them


[28-May-19 10:01 PM] byte[]#2610
This entire administration operates on the principle of "ain't nobody gonna stop me"


[28-May-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48438333

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Pakistan Hindu vet charged with blasphemy
The vet allegedly wrapped medicine in pages from a school book containing Islamic religious text.


[28-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[28-May-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Strong US ally, of course


[28-May-19 10:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/25/us/false-racism-internet-mob-chipotle-video/index.html

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How an internet mob falsely painted a Chipotle employee as racist
A Chipotle employee was scorned online for her role in what some Twitter users decided was a racist incident. Then internet sleuths discovered the full story.
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[28-May-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Today marks the anniversary of the end of the Paris Commune


[28-May-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXnFU32Zcs

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National Anthem of the Paris Commune (1871) ‒ “La Marseillaise...
Anthems Therapy © Restored material - old format - Stereo
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[28-May-19 10:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Viva le Commune. Defeated but not dead.


[29-May-19 12:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Room For Rent (⚠ Twinks 😈 Only 🍆)


[29-May-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
cant believe people actually think greenpeace killed climate activism
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[29-May-19 01:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/758shv/til_that_executed_labor_leader_and_song_writer/

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[29-May-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/well/family/how-to-bullyproof-your-child.html

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By ESTELLE ERASMUS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/well/family/how-to-bullyproof-your-child.html
How to Bullyproof Your Child
Teaching children how to take the air out of the teasing.
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[29-May-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Have your parents find out about their family history on FB and tell them to you so you can bully them back


[29-May-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern problems require modern solutions


[29-May-19 02:27 AM] Illusion#5146
The future is now


[29-May-19 02:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.theonion.com/world-populace-actually-fine-with-rich-people-dying-on-1835075562

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World Populace Actually Fine With Rich People Dying On Mount Everest
GENEVA—Saying they had no real problem with wealthy thrill-seekers failing in their efforts to scale the tallest mountain on earth, the entire human population admitted Tuesday that they are, in fact, completely fine with rich people dying on Mount Everest. “These guys sh...
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[29-May-19 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
This but unironically


[29-May-19 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
It's like 50k and they leave trash everywhere


[29-May-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/UP9R-W1yaXo

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From Liberal to Communist: My political 'Journey'
A summary of my political journey so far in the best way I could explain it so far. Its been 6 years in the making, whew. Black Red Guard's channel: https://...
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[29-May-19 05:10 AM] Illusion#5146
I'm kinda the disillusionment (?)


[29-May-19 06:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCo6MUGNyEs

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Democrats Move To Bypass Electoral College, This Is A HUGE Mistake
Democrats Move To Bypass Electoral College, This Is A HUGE Mistake. Maine is one of the latest states to join the National popular Vote Interstate Compact, a...
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[29-May-19 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Yes because farm land deserves more votes than actually occupied area


[29-May-19 06:19 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[29-May-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
ironically


[29-May-19 06:20 AM] Mikey#7286
the electoral college does the opposite of giving the majority the power


[29-May-19 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
>but muh mob rule
Oh please cause rural America isn't a mob either


[29-May-19 06:21 AM] Mikey#7286
it gives the smaller areas more power


[29-May-19 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
At least direct democracy would be actual person decisions not geography ones


[29-May-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
"hue hue tyranny of the majority"


[29-May-19 06:24 AM] Mikey#7286
"hurr just another day in clown world"


[29-May-19 06:24 AM] Mikey#7286
-every right winger or "centrist"


[29-May-19 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Also assuming that you are the smart one that knows how to "rule" is some elitist bullshit, you want to know how to run a farm, ask a farmer,


[29-May-19 06:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Majority rule, minority rights


[29-May-19 06:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's nothing wrong with this


[29-May-19 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Please, farms are run and financed by people in urban areas


[29-May-19 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In a decade and a half it will all be remotely controlled


[29-May-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If rural America deserves votes for farmland, why shouldn't California get votes for its ocean territory?


[29-May-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
I think the majority of people in the US would like minority rights


[29-May-19 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What even is tyranny of the majority


[29-May-19 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not tyranny at all


[29-May-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
is there a real life example of tyranny of the majority on a national scale?


[29-May-19 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tyranny is minority rule


[29-May-19 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think it ever has existed


[29-May-19 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The majority will give concessions to the minority


[29-May-19 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Out of courtesy


[29-May-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/last-abortion-clinic-missouri-expects-be-shut-down-week-n1010876

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Last abortion clinic in Missouri expects to be shut down this week
On Friday, Missouri Gov. Mike Parson signed a bill that criminalizes abortions in the state after eight weeks of pregnancy.
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[29-May-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
>The last remaining abortion clinic in Missouri says it expects to be shut down this week, which would effectively end legal abortion in the state. Unless a court intervenes, the closing would make Missouri the only state in the country without an abortion clinic, according to Planned Parenthood.


[29-May-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/28/18642441/japan-trump-abe-biden-kim-missile

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In Japan, Trump broke a cardinal rule of being US president
He even had a Helsinki-like breakdown.
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[29-May-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
>President Donald Trump seems to have a new ally in his 2020 reelection fight: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. More shocking, though, is that Trump appears fine with it — and is siding with the brutal dictator over a fellow American.


[29-May-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
>Trump seemed delighted by the KCNA hit piece, tweeting Sunday that he had “confidence” Kim had “smiled when he called Swampman Joe Biden a low IQ individual, & worse.”


[29-May-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
trump's gone beyond full retard at this point


[29-May-19 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh no, people will have to go five minutes to Illinois to get an abortion


[29-May-19 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*does not apply if you are from Kansas City


[29-May-19 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri happily slid into irrelevance


[29-May-19 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Used to be a bellwether like Ohio or PA


[29-May-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then we went full "maybe the Missourah people should represent us"


[29-May-19 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Every time I see an abortion-related article I just kinda think "ugh I don't know what to think about this"


[29-May-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Staunch secularism is how I handle it


[29-May-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for the mental gymnastics to deny women prenatal child support and work leave


[29-May-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it's a kid you owe her money the second you get her pregnant


[29-May-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Full stop


[29-May-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I kinda think of it using fetal physiology; the fetus of a human barely looks any different from most other mammals (like a cow) until a certain point


[29-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ugh my viewpoint sounds a little eh even to me


[29-May-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Satanists have been trying their best


[29-May-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But really, Satanism is just religious secularism


[29-May-19 07:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was thinking along the lines of "you people don't even bat an eye when you kill an adult cow"


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m staunch pro choice, It's your body you make the call. Even if you might live to regret it, it was your choice to make.


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"if you can't tell a human fetus and cow fetus apart, it's not specialized enough to 'be a human' "


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri also has a prosecutor


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who refuses to ever go for the death penalty


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever


[29-May-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And this upsets people


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
On one hand you are technically ending a life, but on the other, the "it's your body argument" is valid


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are people demanding the death penalty for miscarriages...


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because we sometimes get a spree shooting and people go "reee kill em"


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I *hate* this abortion debate so much


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Because it feels so black and white


[29-May-19 07:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is less a debate and mroe a "We're lawmakers so shut your face and we'll decide for you you fucking whore"


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There doesn't appear to be any sort of reasonable middle ground for when it's ok to terminate


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay let's say this scenario happens


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woman gets raped


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gets abortion


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both get caught


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rapist gets prison for X years


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woman gets death penalty


[29-May-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well it's stupid in that case


[29-May-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the goal though


[29-May-19 07:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these lawmakers basically want christian shariah law


[29-May-19 07:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's basically the end goal here


[29-May-19 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The end goal of criminalizing abortion is encouraging "undesirable" women to die or become infertile


[29-May-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course their 15 year old daughters will always find a safe way to get one


[29-May-19 07:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
On the other hand, terminating at 8.9 months can probably be considered "killing a baby"


[29-May-19 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Otherwise it would ruin their lives


[29-May-19 07:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or their mistresses


[29-May-19 07:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Because the fetus *has* basically developed into one at that point


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But who the fuck terminates at 8.9 months


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if your religion says soul doesn't enter body until birth


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's why I wanted to try a scientific approach


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't think late term abortions should be allowed unless the mother is going to die from complications and the baby will die as well anyway


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ironically, christianity is one of those religions that says that...


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Termination stops being ok when the baby is clearly a human


[29-May-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Imo


[29-May-19 07:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But what that means is kinda weird


[29-May-19 07:19 AM] Mikey#7286
religion needs to fuck off


[29-May-19 07:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So I just go with the definition of "the stage of development where the fetus starts showing distinctly human traits"


[29-May-19 07:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
abortion is ty[pically an early stages thing, unless it;s life threatening to you or the baby


[29-May-19 07:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't know how long that takes tho


[29-May-19 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
first trimester usually


[29-May-19 07:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The "all life is sacred" argument is kinda ridiculous to me; people kill and eat cows and chickens by the thousands without batting an eyelash


[29-May-19 07:20 AM] Mikey#7286
the same conservatives that want to "stick to the constitution" and want to shove religion in politics conveniently forget that the founding fathers wanted to keep religion out of politics


[29-May-19 07:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I don't want to "kill a human"


[29-May-19 07:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the demanding of a death sentence is anti life by all technical means


[29-May-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah, a death sentence feels kinda stupid


[29-May-19 07:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
By kinda I mean really stupid


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
also most states with anti abortion laws are more pro birth than pro life


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Religion aside, killing a human tends to be immoral for most individuals, so that's what I go with


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
they probably think women should have like 4 kids


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
and the same people say "but birth rates are low"


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh that's too many


[29-May-19 07:22 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah well so are mortality rates


[29-May-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
the birth rate is like 1.8 per woman iirc


[29-May-19 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne you get the duggars


[29-May-19 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the duggars are the model family type for this type of politician


[29-May-19 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
minus the horrifying scandals


[29-May-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
but that's healthy, those 2 babies aren't likely to die by 10 (unless you're anti-vax)


[29-May-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
>.>


[29-May-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I argue that religion can play some role in dictating morality, but should not take the place of common human decency


[29-May-19 07:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And should stay the fuck out of science and economics and other objective aspects of government/society


[29-May-19 07:25 AM] Mikey#7286
religion doesn't nor shouldn't dictate morality


[29-May-19 07:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you need god to curb your homicidal urges, maybe you shoudl see someone about that...


[29-May-19 07:26 AM] Mikey#7286
religion and morality are both human concepts


[29-May-19 07:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Religion and morality are somewhat intertwined, some biblical teachings are still reflections of good morality


[29-May-19 07:27 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm saying that men made religion and some of them claimed that religion invented morality


[29-May-19 07:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh that feels *very* untrue


[29-May-19 07:28 AM] Mikey#7286
you don't need those biblical teachings for morality


[29-May-19 07:29 AM] Mikey#7286
like "thou shalt not murder"


[29-May-19 07:29 AM] Mikey#7286
like, why do I need biblical teachings to tell me that?


[29-May-19 07:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
*you* might not


[29-May-19 07:29 AM] Mikey#7286
"thou shalt not steal/commit adultery"


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
man


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
if you need a book to tell you not to kill


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
i think you got issues


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But religion can be a good way to get moral teachings to be spread across a lot of people


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thou shalt not covet thine neighbors wife


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That being said, blindly adhering to a 3,000 year old book for morality is also dumb


[29-May-19 07:30 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
morals also change in societies


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so morals from 3000+ year old books are maybe not too accurate anymore


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's a matter of separating wheat from chaff with the Bible


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Some teachings still hold, teach those


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Fuck the ones that don't


[29-May-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[29-May-19 07:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Kinda like reading and learning from a 50 year old science textbook


[29-May-19 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bible says to sell the victim to the rapist and i;m half surprised politicians arent standing by that

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[29-May-19 07:32 AM] Mikey#7286
but like don't treat the bible like it's an accurate depiction of history


[29-May-19 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially alabama


[29-May-19 07:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pfft for anything objective/factual, the Bible should be the last place you look


[29-May-19 07:33 AM] Mikey#7286
sadly a billion or so people do


[29-May-19 07:33 AM] Mikey#7286
like yeah jesus was probably real but did he turn water into wine?


[29-May-19 07:33 AM] Mikey#7286
fuck no


[29-May-19 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if he did it was party tricks


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure the existence of "one" jesus of nazareth is fairly disputed


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could maybe see party tricks being popular back thne beign blown out of proportion by witnesses


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
he was the first stage magician


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
and that the biblical character was most likely actually many individuals


[29-May-19 07:34 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[29-May-19 07:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The Bible to me is a historical record that is hugely embellished


[29-May-19 07:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's a grain or two of truth in the stories, but a whole mound of bullshit


[29-May-19 07:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kind of reads like a drunk accounting of history


[29-May-19 07:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the stories are half true but super fucking exagerated to impress drunk friends


[29-May-19 07:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like someguy was just walking along and saw a village on fire and  then he goes on to tell people about it and then claims he saw a woman get turned to a pile of salt


[29-May-19 07:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Guys like I totally saw that woman turn into salt guys! like for reals!"


[29-May-19 07:38 AM] Mikey#7286
aliens came to earth and helped make the pyramids


[29-May-19 07:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pyramids were josephs grain silohs because jesus!


[29-May-19 07:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[29-May-19 08:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking to add to your farming bit: turns out more and more farm land is being held by foreign financiers. I'll grab an article later, or someone else can hunt. I'm at the end of my lunch break.


[29-May-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so absentee land owners are even effectign farmland?


[29-May-19 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.philly.com/politics/nation/mitch-mcconnell-supreme-court-election-year-nomination-barack-obama-merrick-garland-20190529.html

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Mitch McConnell, who held up nomination by Obama in 2016, says he ...
Some see the Senate majority leader’s stance, which McConnell has signaled before, as disingenuous.
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[29-May-19 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
to literally no one's surprise, mcconnell is a massive raging hypocrite


[29-May-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.insider.com/venezuela-crisis-so-bad-criminals-cannot-afford-bullets-2019-5

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Venezuela's economic crisis is now so bad that criminals can't aff...
Venezuelan criminals cannot afford to pay $1 per bullet when many of their mugging victims do not even carry cash or luxury items anymore.
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[29-May-19 04:06 PM] ISamusI#5581
Wow.


[29-May-19 04:09 PM] ononim#8141
Maduro out there playing the 5d chess


[29-May-19 05:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/445904-mueller-to-speak-publicly-at-justice-department

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Mueller to make first public statement on Russia investigation
Special counsel Robert Mueller on Wednesday will make a statement about his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, the Justice Department announced.The on-camera appearance will be the
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert_032419getty_lead.jpg


[29-May-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s over


[29-May-19 05:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"After that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,"


[29-May-19 05:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
When is Wednesday?  Oh, today.


[29-May-19 05:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I thought it would be tomorrow


[29-May-19 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-bret-baier-reacts-to-muellers-statement-this-was-not-no-collusion-no-obstruction/

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Ken Meyer
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-bret-baier-reacts-to-muellers-statement-this-was-not-no-collusion-no-obstruction/
Bret Baier on Mueller: 'This Was Not No Collusion, No Obstruction'
In his initial reaction to Robert Mueller's statement on his investigation, Fox News' Bret Baier said the special counsel's announcement flies in the face of President Donald Trump's insistence that he's completely exonerated
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[29-May-19 05:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Cool 👌


[29-May-19 05:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(Actually indifferent)


[29-May-19 05:52 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
can't wait for the inevitable Trump tweet attacking Bret


[29-May-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and about 20 other people today


[29-May-19 05:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What will come out of this?


[29-May-19 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably angry trump tweets in the short term, and likely nothing until trump is out of office in the long term


[29-May-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any vote on impeachment will be pre-emptively killed by Trump's pet turtle mcconnell


[29-May-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/28/amazon-removes-books-promoting-dangerous-bleach-cures-for-autism.html

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Amazon removes books promoting dangerous bleach 'cures' for autism...
The books focus on chlorine dioxide, which doctors and federal regulators say amounts to industrial bleach and can cause permanent harm.
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[29-May-19 06:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:faceclaw:


[29-May-19 06:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh they just now removed them? Not, I dunno, *when they were submitted to the store?*


[29-May-19 06:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:faceclaw:


[29-May-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Everything is profit till the publicity sets in!" -amazon probably


[29-May-19 07:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/trump-wants-his-border-barrier-to-be-painted-black-with-spikes-he-has-other-ideas-too/2019/05/16/b088c07e-7676-11e9-b3f5-5673edf2d127_story.html


[29-May-19 07:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[29-May-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133759237136494592?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Nothing changes from the Mueller Report. There was insufficient evidence and therefore, in our Country, a person is innocent. The case is closed! Thank you.
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[29-May-19 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not what was said


[29-May-19 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He implied a crime was committed


[29-May-19 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There's evidence of my crimes but there's not enough therefore, i'm innocent!"


[29-May-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1133769438338138112?s=21

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Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany)
https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1133769438338138112?s=21
Now it’s time to turn to the origins of the Russia hoax and get to the bottom of why the Trump campaign was spied on by the Obama-era DOJ and FBI.”

Our statement on Mueller from  @parscale @TeamTrump:
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[29-May-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Where’s the bleach?


[29-May-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was drank by the children of anti-vaxxers trying to cure their autism


[29-May-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They are grasping at straws desperatly here


[29-May-19 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-denmark-election-welfare-insight-idUSKCN1SZ0IC

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Danes make welfare a hot election issue as cracks show in Nordic model
The Nordic welfare model, long the envy of many across the world seeking an egal...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190529&t=2&i=1392037495&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF4S0BR


[29-May-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If he were innocent of these crimes, We would have explicitly stated so" -robert mueller


[29-May-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully when we cure Alzheimer's it alleviates this


[29-May-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the problem is that old people nowadays are basically retarded and so can't take care of themselves at all.


[29-May-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
But ultimately, retirement age must go up


[29-May-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
especially once we start to chip into aging itself


[29-May-19 08:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/lesleyabravanel/status/1133424997295382528?s=21

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To the asshole MAGAt who ripped #ImpeachTrump sticker off my car on #MemorialDay, I hope it made you feel like a hero on the day we remember Americans who gave their lives so we can drive around w/such stickers.Your cowardly efforts went to waste. Replaced it  #TheResistan...
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[29-May-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f88f274cd502492db687d62657915717

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Trump urges Roy Moore not to run for US Senate in Alabama
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — President Donald Trump on Wednesday discouraged Alabama Republican Roy Moore from running for U.S. Senate again in 2020, saying the GOP must regain the once reliably red...
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[29-May-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0fdeb73fd37a4ec392b67d9fec550b52

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In UAE, Trump's adviser warns Iran of 'very strong response'
ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — President Donald Trump's national security adviser warned Iran on Wednesday that any attacks in the Persian Gulf will draw a "very strong response" from the...
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[29-May-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/29/dont-say-we-didnt-warn-you---a-phrase-from-china-signals-the-trade-war-could-get-even-worse.html

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'Don't say we didn't warn you': A phrase from China signals the tr...
The biggest Chinese newspaper made a warning to the U.S. using a phrase it only used twice in history, both of which involved full-on wars.
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[29-May-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
>The phrase “Don’t say we didn’t warn you” was only used two other times in history by the People’s Daily — in 1962 before China’s border war with India and ahead of the 1979 China-Vietnam War.


[29-May-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
>China threatened it would cut off rare earth minerals as a countermeasure in the escalated trade battle. The materials are crucial to the production of iPhones, electric vehicles and advanced precision weapons


[29-May-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
china could seriously fuck up the US economy if it wanted to


[29-May-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
this is so sad


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
can we have uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
more cawbell


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:🔔


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
death math between the government of china and us in the pit?


[29-May-19 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
whoever winng gets the privelege of being thrown into the lava beneath the pit


[29-May-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
>death math


[29-May-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
well, china would win instantly


[29-May-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
muricans can't do smart

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[29-May-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
lmao <https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/758shv/til_that_executed_labor_leader_and_song_writer/do4sqra>


[29-May-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/world/middleeast/israel-coalition-netanyahu-new-election.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/world/middleeast/israel-coalition-netanyahu-new-election.html
Israel Moves to Hold New Election as Netanyahu Fails to Form a Coa...
After elections last month, Benjamin Netanyahu seemed to have an easy path back to power. But his efforts ran aground on a power struggle among his potential partners.
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[29-May-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
rofl


[29-May-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
>Israelis will return to the ballot box in about three months, the first time in the country’s history that it has been forced to hold a new national election because of a failure to form a government after the previous one.


[30-May-19 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know the alternatives to bibi aren't much better, but hey, at least the schadenfreude is good


[30-May-19 12:16 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/JySqukk84G0

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https://youtu.be/JySqukk84G0
Mueller Says Any Testimony to Congress Won't Go Beyond Report
May.29 -- Special Counsel Robert Mueller delivers a public statement on his investigation into 2016 Russian election meddling. He speaks at the Justice Depar...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JySqukk84G0/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-May-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
Mueller: I literally can't charge the president with crimes, because he's still in office.
The Right: COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION


[30-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Idiots


[30-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
Also


[30-May-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
He said they would have explicitly said whether Trump was not guilty of a crime


[30-May-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He would never have said that because he could never prosecute so he could never be actually vindicated if so


[30-May-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/05/us-department-of-energy-is-now-referring-to-fossil-fuels-as-freedom-gas/

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US Department of Energy is now referring to fossil fuels as “fre...
The Department of Energy is on its path to "energy dominance" with bizarre re-branding.
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[30-May-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is fucking real...


[30-May-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[30-May-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess their strategy is to make it sound like climate science is attacking freedom itself but this is so dumb...


[30-May-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>In a press release published on Tuesday, two Department of Energy officials used the terms "freedom gas" and "molecules of US freedom" to replace your average, everyday term "natural gas."

The press release was fairly standard, announcing the expansion of a Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) terminal at the Freeport facility on Quintana Island, Texas. It would have gone unnoticed had an E&E News reporter not noted the unique metonymy "molecules of US freedom."
DOE Assistant Secretary for Fossil Energy Steven Winberg is quoted as saying, "With the US in another year of record-setting natural gas production, I am pleased that the Department of Energy is doing what it can to promote an efficient regulatory system that allows for molecules of US freedom to be exported to the world.”


[30-May-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[30-May-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised they haven't called coal "freedom stone" and oil "freedom juice" yet


[30-May-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-passes-fetal-heartbeat-abortion-ban-democratic-gov-expected-sign-n1010976

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-passes-fetal-heartbeat-abortion-ban-democratic-gov-expected-sign-n1010976
Louisiana passes fetal heartbeat abortion ban, Democratic governor...
Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards has indicated that he will break with his party and sign the ban if it crosses his desk.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_22/2873641/190528-louisiana-abortion-bill-al-1436_1ee6c6b3899eb5e674736bd04b23dd7d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[30-May-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the democratic party is shitty as well


[30-May-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
the US as a whole is too conservative


[30-May-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/29/louisiana-passed-an-abortion-ban-its-democratic-governor-plans-defy-his-party-sign-it/


[30-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
>Nationally, however, Edwards, state Sen. John Milkovich, the Democrat who sponsored the bill, and other antiabortion Democrats have become the unlikely intraparty combatants in a debate that has grown increasingly partisan.


[30-May-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the majority of people in louisiana, both democrats and republicans, support the heartbeat bill


[30-May-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
FREEDOM GAS

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[30-May-19 01:43 AM] RYDE#8862
I don't want to live on this planet anymore..
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[30-May-19 01:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
US is like middle east but Christian.


[30-May-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Freedom Farts: The long-awaited sequel to Freedom Fries


[30-May-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let Mother Earth's dying flatulence allow you to liv high and dry while everyone else drowns with her.


[30-May-19 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
End this fucking simulation.


[30-May-19 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am done


[30-May-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/iX4LZIr.jpg

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[30-May-19 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
You cannot convince me this is not the work of poorly designed bots.


[30-May-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
what if god is just a scientist that's legally unable to interfere with its experiment


[30-May-19 01:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
We are just cells in a petri dish.


[30-May-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/7QbmX29.jpg

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[30-May-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
the libertarian stance is to say "fuck off, anyone can wear whatever they want"


[30-May-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
I guess clean energy is "unfreedom energy"


[30-May-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLAVE ENERGY


[30-May-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
_whips the wind and strips the sunlight of civil rights._


[30-May-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
No wonder it's gaining popularity on the ground level in the South.


[30-May-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/29/us/private-border-wall-permits/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/29/us/private-border-wall-permits/index.html
City blocks private border wall construction with 'cease and desis...
City officials in Sunland Park, New Mexico, say the owners of land near the border where a private wall is being built didn't get the proper permits for construction.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190527234456-08-private-border-wall-super-tease.jpg


[30-May-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, finally got around to reading that article about norway, it's literally cracking because the liberal party isn't handling the implementation properly


[30-May-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
the center-left social democrat party is gaining power because of the center liberal party isn't running things properly


[30-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/budd9p/old_white_women_pulling_a_gun_on_an_african/

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r/iamatotalpieceofshit - Old white women pulling a gun on an Afric...
15,185 votes and 1,244 comments so far on Reddit
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[30-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
>They went and talked to the other camp manager who was the white woman’s husband and he said you do NOT need reservations to be at the lake. She got fired by the campground. As she should be.


[30-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
this is america


[30-May-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/mississippi-black-couple-picnic-video-gun.html

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White Campground Manager Pulls Gun on Black Mississippi Couple Try...
“Get, get, you don’t belong here,” the manager allegedly told the couple.
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[30-May-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Franklin Richardson, an Army National Guard Sergeant, had recently returned from a nine-month deployment overseas. “It’s kind of crazy,” he told WCBI. “You go over there and don’t have a gun pointed at you, and you come back home and the first thing that happens is you have a gun pointed at you.”


[30-May-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is america


[30-May-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ


[30-May-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i watched that video on r/iamatotalpieceofshit earlier too


[30-May-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s good to hear she got fired


[30-May-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you dont need soemone who starts confrontatiosn with gun pointing working at your park


[30-May-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446076-white-house-asked-for-uss-john-mccain-to-be-out-of-sight-during

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446076-white-house-asked-for-uss-john-mccain-to-be-out-of-sight-during
White House asked for USS John McCain to be 'out of sight' during ...
The White House asked the U.S. Navy to make sure a warship named for late Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpmccain_021017getty_0.jpg


[30-May-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s so insecure even a ship's name sets him off


[30-May-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-fire-white-house-video-ellipse-secret-service-a8935581.html

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Man sets himself on fire outside White House
Videos show man engulfed in flames near an area known as President's Park South
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/05/29/18/sei61936814.jpg


[30-May-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610

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[30-May-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
And then she was instantly shot

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[30-May-19 06:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/6KrTK40XxIg

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NonCompete
https://youtu.be/6KrTK40XxIg
No, seriously, join a f**king union!
This is a followup to yesterday's Quickrise. Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICbUXuhydA&t=823s Bad Empanada's video on Australian unions: ht...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6KrTK40XxIg/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-May-19 06:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/xG9HLYm3ZQ4

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AudibleAnarchist
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Post-Scarcity Anarchism by Murray Bookchin
Full text of the essays https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-post-scarcity-anarchism In this series of essays, Murray Bookchin balances hi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xG9HLYm3ZQ4/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-May-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
found the boomer <https://imgur.com/gallery/ZAFfDM6/comment/1656813135>


[30-May-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, my mom had what I call a "boomer moment" when I was leaving today, she started saying some bullshit about how it's "so millennial" to say that her views on healthcare make no sense (she was saying that it was competition that drives prices down, even though I tried to tell her it was supply and demand that determines prices, plus we've been trying competition for decades and prices have only been skyrocketing, she hates obamacare so much that she hates mccain because he stopped it from being repealed)


[30-May-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
she specifically said "you are SO millennial that you" and I couldn't hear the rest of it because I had closed the door


[30-May-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
she said something about having a "poisoned mind" like a minute before


[30-May-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
like the only reason I didn't say "shut the fuck up boomer" when I was leaving is because she's my mom


[30-May-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
she's never actually behaved like that before, I feel like she's kinda losing her grip on reality


[30-May-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
she's drinking a lot more too I think


[30-May-19 08:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was gonna say, she hasn't exactly sounded like the most level person to begin with


[30-May-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like it started specifically because obama got elected


[30-May-19 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
the talk shows and stuff she was listening to got really nasty towards obama


[30-May-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
right now, she's listening to this conspiracy theory guy named "dan bongino" or something


[30-May-19 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, I *think* your mom is an intelligent person. That's why the cognitive dissonance is hitting such high levels of self-destruct. If she were a good little sheep, I think she'd be able to turn on a dime mentally


[30-May-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
don't even know when she started listening to him, but basically everything I've looked up about what he says sounds like conspiracy theories on their face, let alone when actually getting into his convoluted proof that has no sources


[30-May-19 08:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The trouble is that all the talking heads she follows *are* so disconnected from reality and she knows that and it scares her. It'd scare me if I woke up one day to find NPR blaring state propaganda, y'know?


[30-May-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that I'm the one who introduced her to sean hannity, I remember my grandfather listening to him on the radio and thinking he was entertaining, but this was back in like 2005 or 2006 and I didn't know or care about politics, basically I can say from personal experience that everything that sean hannity, rush limbaugh, mark levin, etc sounds reasonable and well thought out.... up until the point that you have literally any outside input with actual sources to back up the claims


[30-May-19 08:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Back then, I think we (generally) were unaware of just how much of an effect Limbaugh et al. were having


[30-May-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
like literally the first time I started looking up stuff they were saying (this was back in like 2013/14), I was like wtf and started looking up more and more stuff and realized that none of their bullshit actually makes any sense unless you build up a mental construct around only what they say without taking into account any other outside input as possibly being true


[30-May-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
that's where the fake news stuff came from, they had to invent something to keep their model from crumbling once it started coming under fire


[30-May-19 08:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is her take on Alex Jones these days, now that he's kinda admitting he's insane?


[30-May-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
she never listened to him


[30-May-19 08:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In a weird way I almost wish she had, 'cause then he'd be "in" her circle


[30-May-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
she listened to some guy called michael savage for awhile, but thought he was kinda crazy (he's basically alex jones lite)


[30-May-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
I mentioned a few days ago that she was super uncomfortable with me saying that she could've managed money better than trump did from the 1980's to 1990's where he lost over a billion dollars in worth


[30-May-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
she refused to even consider the idea that trump might've admitted to committing a crime (or even something suspicious) when I brought up that trump said it was "just sport" for rich people to deflate the value of their properties as much as possible to get huge tax breaks


[30-May-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
she's really good at managing money


[30-May-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
I know for a fact that she could do more with a million dollars than trump could've ever hoped to have done with a billion


[30-May-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
I'm really good at managing money because I barely buy anything lol


[30-May-19 08:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know those articles on financial advisors talking about the inaccuracies in Trump's various filings? The ones that talk about him fudging an extra 10 stories onto Trump tower etc?


[30-May-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
I have no need for anything beyond some place to live, something to eat, something to drink, and a computer/internet connection


[30-May-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
I don't buy very many knick knacks or whatever


[30-May-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
I think the most recent one was a crow plushie like 2 years ago


[30-May-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
which I then gave to my cousin for a birthday present


[30-May-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
it cawed when you squeezed it

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[30-May-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
but no, I haven't read any articles talking about the inaccuracies


[30-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
also, she said she could've lived her entire life on a million dollars a week ago, and I told her that would've made her infinitely better at managing money than trump, and she refused to admit that she might be better than trump at something


[30-May-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
it was like I could physically see the cognitive dissonance in her behavior, it was kind of disconcerting


[30-May-19 09:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Check the date https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tower-is-not-as-tall-as-trump-says-2016-10

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Trump Tower is actually 10 floors shorter than Donald Trump says it is
Through some real-estate trickery, Donald Trump frequently mislabels his developments' floors.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/580f8161b28a641c008b4a28-960-480.jpg


[30-May-19 09:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there are...a couple other things like this, I'm trying to dig 'em up


[30-May-19 09:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ah here we go https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/trump-statements-of-financial-condition/


[30-May-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/robert-mueller-s-press-conference-made-democrats-look-cowards-ncna1011661

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Opinion | Democrats are playing chicken while Mueller is playing chess
Trump sees a Democratic Congress reluctant to wield the impeachment power voters gave it in the midterms. And he may be right.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_22/2876266/190529-think-nancy-pelosi-ew-411p_140287abc667e5f64bf3584769b9ebff.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[30-May-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
mueller's personally incredibly conservative in his political views, he's just very good at separating his personal opinion from his job


[30-May-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
the US political system is a joke, one side are pussyfooting around the subject of actually doing its job because it's "politically untenable", and the other side is currently trampling over every implicit rule and tradition that's existed for decades because it's not illegal in order to get as much bullshit pushed past the other side as possible


[30-May-19 10:10 AM] Mikey#7286
so basically we're fucked


[30-May-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article230949738.html

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‘The time to do something is today:’ California police use-of-...
A sweeping police use of force bill passed a major legislative hurdle on Wednesday with bipartisan backing, paving the way for a new legal standard officers must meet to justify deadly force.
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[30-May-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
wow


[30-May-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
california actually doing something to combat police shootings


[30-May-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure this is the first of its kind in the country


[30-May-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
>Assembly Bill 392 passed its chamber floor on a 66-0 vote on Wednesday, a week after the proposal was changed to allow officer shootings “based on the totality of the circumstances” instead of only when “necessary.” Current law allows officers to use lethal force if it’s considered “reasonable.”


[30-May-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder what the catch is


[30-May-19 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the police unions negotiated to get rid of outright criminal liability in the face of a police shooting, so it's likely going to end up just being lip service


[30-May-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
like force an officer who wrongfully shoots someone to give a bunch of politically correct apologies in front of a camera, but not actually hold the officer accountable for an unjustified shooting


[30-May-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
reading the actual changes being made by the bill, it doesn't actually seem to add anything about holding police officers accountable for their actions


[30-May-19 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
so it's just lip service


[30-May-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's been proven by the current political climate that if you only say "this is wrong" instead of "this is illegal", it WILL be done


[30-May-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB392


[30-May-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/29/california-bill-gives-employee-status-to-contract-workers

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Gig economy: California bill granting employee status passes assembly
Uber and Lyft drivers, considered contract workers, could be entitled to protections and benefits if the bill is signed
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[30-May-19 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
neat


[30-May-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
back to the thing about police shootings


[30-May-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
>Assembly Bill 392 passed its chamber floor on a 66-0 vote on Wednesday, a week after the proposal was changed to allow officer shootings “based on the totality of the circumstances” instead of only when “necessary.” Current law allows officers to use lethal force if it’s considered “reasonable.”


[30-May-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
basically, first it said "necessary", which the police unions called an "impossible standard"


[30-May-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
so it was changed to "based on the totality of the circumstances"


[30-May-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
which still lets police get away with saying "oh but the phone LOOKED like a gun"


[30-May-19 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
the idea was to make it easier for criminal lawsuits against police officers to take place


[30-May-19 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
and not to actually put regulations on police officers


[30-May-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
because we live in a world where just not shooting someone is considered an "impossible standard"


[30-May-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/29/727511632/revenge-is-for-the-weak-kurdish-courts-in-northeastern-syria-take-on-isis-cases

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Kurdish Syrian authorities have tried 7,000 ISIS suspects in a justice system that bans torture and the death penalty. Some of the judges are women, which comes as a shock to ISIS fighters on trial.
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[30-May-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
>It's a shock to some ISIS fighters to be sentenced by a woman. In the self-declared caliphate, women had very restricted roles, requiring them to stay at home unless they were accompanied by a close male relative. According to ISIS ideology, men are not allowed to look at women who are not direct relatives.


[30-May-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
>"Some of them, when they hear the voice of a woman, they look at the ground," says Amina. "I tell them, 'I am talking to you — raise your head and look at the committee.'"


[30-May-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
>Amina says a female colleague jokes that ISIS fighters thought that, as the Quran promises men who are faithful, they would end up in paradise with dozens of beautiful women to accompany them. "Instead, they look up and see us" in the courtroom, Amina says with a laugh.

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[30-May-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
>The 47-year-old judge studied law in Aleppo and practiced law in the Syrian judicial system before the country's civil war began in 2011. She and other lawyers helped establish a legal system governed by Rojava's secular, socialist-influenced constitution. The region's legal system incorporates Syrian civil law, but emphasizes guarantees for women's rights and, through "peoples' courts," focuses on conflict resolution rather than punishment.


[30-May-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
>socialist-influenced constitution


[30-May-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
god, my mom's going to be pissed when I tell her about this, she supports the kurds super hard for fighting for their freedom


[30-May-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
she'll go from loving them to hating them in the blink of an eye


[30-May-19 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the kurds have stopped extraditing isis fighters to iraq because iraq was summarily executing them all


[30-May-19 11:16 AM] Illusion#5146
Wait, why is that a bad thing, you think they should have just sent them to die?


[30-May-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
I never said it was a bad thing, where the hell did you get that impression from?


[30-May-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, it's a good thing


[30-May-19 12:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
As a fun reminder the Rojava Kurds have a government mandate that any position have at least 40% representation of either sex in order to have as close to Thanks tier equilibrium as possible.


[30-May-19 12:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
The same Kurds also have a dual power structure - being Anarchistic in origin - where they have a whole structure established pertaining to women's issues, from education to abolition of forced marriages, abolishing child brides, and tackling FGM.


[30-May-19 12:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Shit I unironically learned today when a friend muttered something about FGM in Syria and I went to double check. Well, yesterday to all the normies out there.


[30-May-19 01:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[30-May-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/20d1230314e04bb19b13dc73ab94d8e1

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Prosecutors push back on enforcing new state abortion laws
ATLANTA (AP) — New state abortion laws likely to become bogged down in legal challenges face another potential obstacle: prosecutors who refuse to enforce them. The Associated Press reached...
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[30-May-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/249f5828e9474f93a2892c597a48f869

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SAN DIEGO (AP) — With a trial less than two weeks away, attorneys for a Navy SEAL accused of killing an Islamic State prisoner in Iraq in 2017 are alleging misconduct by the government and want...
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[30-May-19 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AM68OX8XOSRm9PquiqnZAUw

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Trump attacks Mueller as a 'true never-Trumper' after admitting fo...
Impeachment is a "dirty filthy disgusting word," the president told reporters as talk of beginning proceedings to remove the president has grown louder.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQU02OE9YOFhPU1JtOVBxdWlxblpBVXcAMA


[30-May-19 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[30-May-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true never-trumper?


[30-May-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fuck is a trumper?


[30-May-19 04:16 PM] Denk#5891
A trumpet player?


[30-May-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this trump's new version of a "trooper"?


[30-May-19 04:20 PM] illumnious#7938
?????


[30-May-19 04:21 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m pretty confused on the title


[30-May-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he called mueller a "true never-trumper"


[30-May-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a trooper in political and corporate terms is usually used to define someone willing to "take one for the team" and take the blame on things to protect dear leader


[30-May-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which mueller has so far been unwilling to do and continues to not do even as he resigns


[30-May-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds like Trump tried to brand the corporate word "trooper" as "trumper"


[30-May-19 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48457401

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Disney may quit Georgia over abortion law
Disney's CEO says it would be "difficult " to over-rule people who didn't want to work in the state.
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[30-May-19 04:34 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m pretty confused on the title


[30-May-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
film studios and such are leaving georgia because they donlt want to be associated witrh the abortion law


[30-May-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a lot of actors and directors refuse to be int he state because of them


[30-May-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl:dr: Georgia recently became a hub for movie studios because they have cheap land to put in massive settings and tax laws heavily favour creative industries


[30-May-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Creative industries that are full of liberals


[30-May-19 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1134096999039606785?s=21

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The @nytimes clearly knows this is NOT TRUE. @realDonaldTrump stated unequivocally during his presser this is FALSE. 

The editors at @nytimes want nothing more than to take one typo and have it redefine 10,000 on the record comments. Disgusting and unprofessional!
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[30-May-19 04:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
An entire sentence structure is not "a typo"


[30-May-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump backtracked and lied again and I demand you take the new lie as truth you liberal scum fucks"


[30-May-19 04:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He didn't backtrack


[30-May-19 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's still saying Russia helped him get elected


[30-May-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh, well he;s being honest for once


[30-May-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's shocking


[30-May-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically this is one guy yelling at new york times because he refuses to take trump's  confession as truth?


[30-May-19 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
average twitter nonsense


[30-May-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/politics/trump-russia-help-elected.html

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Trump Tweets, and Then Retracts, Statement That Russia Helped Him ...
Amid criticism of the special counsel’s investigation, President Trump offers an extraordinary admission, that the rival country helped him win the presidency in 2016.
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[30-May-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he retracted it anyway


[30-May-19 05:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is his "excuse" for retraction?


[30-May-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesn;t like admitting that he didnt win through his own means. Russia helping him was a god send but it;s also a humiliation in his eyes that he had help from an outside source


[30-May-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his excuse is pride


[30-May-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax...And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media ...say he fought back against this phony crime that didn’t exist, this horrendous false accusation, and he shouldn’t fight back, he should just sit back and take it. Could this be Obstruction? No, Mueller didn’t find Obstruction either. Presidential Harassment!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2019


[30-May-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the statement in full


[30-May-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he retracted the statement because that's a pretty nice fucking nail in his presidential coffin


[30-May-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.sky.com/story/us-regulators-approve-worlds-most-expensive-drug-costing-1-6m-11728275

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US regulators approve world's most expensive drug - costing £1.6m
Swiss pharmaceutical giant Novartis' chief executive claimed the drug is a near-cure for babies with spinal muscular atrophy.
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[30-May-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Swiss pharmaceutical giant Novartis has won approval for a new gene therapy drug which is priced at a record £1.67m per treatment.

Named Zolgensma, the drug has been approved by US regulators for treating babies with spinal muscular atrophy (SMA) - a rare and often fatal disease.

The new one-time treatment uses a virus to replace the defective gene which causes SMA with a copy that functions properly.

The regulatory approval allows Zolgensma to be used on babies with the deadliest form of the disease as well as ones whose lives could be impacted later.


[30-May-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Executives at the pharmaceutical giant defended their price of the drug and claimed that the one-time treatment, which is delivered via spinal infusion, is more valuable than alternatives which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.


[30-May-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Executives at the pharmaceutical giant defended their price of the drug and claimed that the one-time treatment, which is delivered via spinal infusion, is more valuable than alternatives which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.


[30-May-19 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The cost of gene therapy drugs has been a subject of hot debate. An independent review in April by the Institute for Clinical and Economic Review (ICER) in the US claimed that Novartis was overestimating the value of Zolgensma.

But following the approval on Friday, the ICER retracted this claim, saying that based on additional clinical data provided by Novartis it now believed that Zolgensma was, while still expensive, within range for being cost-effective.


[30-May-19 05:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
1.6 ***million*** per treatment, even if one-time, is cost effective. Mhmm. Sure.


[30-May-19 05:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🙄


[30-May-19 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this sounds great but no one who faces these issues is going to be able to afford it at all


[30-May-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The one millionaire who had this issue just paid for the treatment, we can all retire securely now, SHUT EM DOWN BOYS!"


[30-May-19 06:23 PM] illumnious#7938
:GWpaboaTrump:


[30-May-19 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Supposedly, the alternative treatment costs 5mil over a 10 year period

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[30-May-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ed33c1bf03844b4ca40614e9923cdd0b

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Trailing candidates angry over new Democratic debate rules
Frustration over how the Democratic National Committee is managing the upcoming presidential debates is bursting into the open as several longshot candidates say the party is stacking the process...
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[30-May-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Frustration over how the Democratic National Committee is managing the upcoming presidential debates is bursting into the open as several longshot candidates say the party is stacking the process against them.

Most of the two dozen declared candidates will be able to participate in the first debate of the 2020 campaign next month. But those who are struggling to gain traction are alarmed by new rules the party announced this week for later debates that are sure to cull the field.

It’s precisely the dynamic DNC Chairman Tom Perez hoped to avoid when he began crafting the rules governing the nomination process in the aftermath of the 2016 election. He sought to avoid giving any campaign room to argue that the national party unduly influenced the outcome, as Bernie Sanders did in 2016, contributing to a divide in the party that wounded Hillary Clinton going into the general election.


[30-May-19 06:59 PM] Honahue#0656
Hillary wounded herself by being a corporate golem


[30-May-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[30-May-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is exactly why the DNC wanted her for president


[30-May-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the exact same reason they want Biden for president


[30-May-19 07:02 PM] Honahue#0656
Looking forward to Trump 2020


[30-May-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No need to focus on no hopers


[30-May-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Show me a person super excited about Bullock or deBlasio


[30-May-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Hillary clinton enters the race wearign a mustache* candidate millary bunton enters the race!


[30-May-19 07:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Not politics related but confusing as fuck https://www.kmov.com/news/year-old-man-wants-to-sue-his-parents-for-giving/article_06992d72-fe05-5031-81e4-11c064d7698a.html

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27-year-old man wants to sue his parents for giving birth to him '...
A 27-year-old Indian businessman is going viral after he announced a plan to sue his parents for bringing him into this world without his explicit consent.
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[30-May-19 07:55 PM] illumnious#7938
How? What? Why?


[30-May-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh this story


[30-May-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt like that he exists without his consent and while he loves his life, he's mad that he is an unconsentual existing entity that his parent sbrought into this world without any consent from him.


[30-May-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his parents dont seem to hold ill will towards him over this, though because they are lawyers they wonlt go easy on him either


[30-May-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a really weird case


[30-May-19 07:59 PM] Honahue#0656
>antinatalism becomes the law
>Humanity denies it's programming
>walks hand in hand into extinction
>Ligotti finally feels happiness


[30-May-19 07:59 PM] ononim#8141
Based and Antinatpilled


[30-May-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://dianeravitch.net/2019/05/29/the-new-york-times-vs-senator-bernie-sanders/

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The “New York Times” vs. Senator Bernie Sanders
I have not endorsed a candidate in the primaries. I have not chosen a favorite. I will vote for any Democrat who runs against Trump. That said, I’m very concerned about the New York Times’ consiste…
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[30-May-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```The article barely mentions Sanders’ historic funding proposals and focus instead on his critique of charter schools, which is a relatively small part of his plan. They write that Sanders’ support for racial integration was “overshadowed by more divisive elements of the proposal: Mr. Sanders’s plan to freeze federal funding for all new charter schools, and the link his plan made between charter schools and segregation.”

```


[30-May-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```The real stinker in the Times’ article comes at the end, where the writers quote someone unfamiliar to me. I know many education activists in South Carolina, but I have never run across Jarrod Loadholt.

Jarrod Loadholt, a Democratic strategist who has worked on education policy in South Carolina, said he appreciated many elements of Mr. Sanders’s plan, including its support for expanding funding for schools that serve large numbers of low-income students — “That’s how you break the cycle of poverty,” he said — and a proposal to invest in school infrastructure.

But while the charter-school issue might be relevant in cities, Mr. Loadholt said, it was hardly top-of-mind for voters in the state’s expansive rural areas, where charter schools are rare.

“To a hammer, everything is a nail,” he said. “And to Sanders, everything is an issue created by millionaires and billionaires.”

I googled.

He is a lawyer and lobbyist in Washington, D.C. who was born in South Carolina. I can find no evidence of any involvement by him in any education issues. His specialty seems to be consumer finance. Why was he called upon to put down Senator Sanders’ factual statement that the Waltons, the DeVos family, and hedge fund managers are behind the push for charter schools? Senator Sanders made his statement in South Carolina, and Loadholt was born there. South Carolina has dreadful education policy. When did Loadholt work on it and with what results? To the naked eye, he was called upon as a Beltway insider to cut Bernie Sanders down with a false statement.

Shameful.

```


[30-May-19 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```It goes on to say that “Many Democrats, most notably Barack Obama, support charters as a way to provide more options to families, especially those that are too poor to move to a higher-quality school district or pay for private school. The impact of charters on school segregation is hotly disputed in education circles, and by linking these elements, Mr. Sanders touched a nerve in a highly charged debate within the party.”

They then quote Amy Wilkins, a paid lobbyist for charter schools (“a vice president at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools and a longtime advocate in Washington for racial equity in education”), who finds the linkage of charter schools and segregation to be “galling.” She thinks that the Brown decision gave black parents the right to choose where to send their children, ignoring the fact that racist governors and senators said exactly the same thing and enacted freedom-of-choice plans that were repeatedly struck down by federal courts.```


[30-May-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
employment drug screenings: because F you if you're unlucky


[30-May-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Cemeteries and family memories stand in border wall's way
SAN JUAN, Texas (AP) — On a muggy, mosquito-filled evening near the U.S.-Mexico border, the threat of President Donald Trump's border wall brought together a large group of family members at two...
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[30-May-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
[Game of Thrones theme playing quietly in the bakkground]


[30-May-19 10:25 PM] ISamusI#5581
Easy


[30-May-19 10:25 PM] ISamusI#5581
Get a shovel head and rack em up


[30-May-19 10:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony: 🔛


[30-May-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-May-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
too bad that centrists don't actually stand up for their opinions because they think it would ruin their ability to compromise


[30-May-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
_radical centrism_


[30-May-19 11:32 PM] Torr#5078
https://twitter.com/kukuruyo/status/1127552405363724293?s=20

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Radical centrism
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[30-May-19 11:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What gun is that?

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[30-May-19 11:38 PM] ononim#8141
The marvel of Belgian wepaon engineering


[31-May-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-19 12:15 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[31-May-19 12:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn, couldn't even get that free space huh :depressed: 😔 :downvote:


[31-May-19 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
should have made "class of 2019" the free space


[31-May-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1133838706530496512

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Cackling Mitch McConnell Reveals To Stunned Democrats He’s Been Working Undercover For Republican Party This Whole Time https://t.co/oWY2QtualZ
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[31-May-19 02:03 AM] Mikey#7286
when the onion can't make up a good parody article


[31-May-19 02:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I honestly thought the related photo blurb was better


[31-May-19 02:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://politics.theonion.com/chuck-schumer-condemns-mitch-mcconnell-for-being-way-be-1835094944

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[31-May-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gab-is-in-full-meltdown-and-founder-andrew-torba-blames-the-deep-state?fbclid=IwAR1694UFwHtIaF6NgSedAyi0lU7AJkp9E2OMYIv5k1tbsMFIhwngrx4ScBQ

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Gab Is in Full Meltdown, and Its Founder Blames the ‘Deep State’
The far-right social-media website is riddled with financial and technical woes, and the founder has blamed everyone from leftists to the ‘deep state.’
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[31-May-19 02:31 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[31-May-19 02:31 AM] Mikey#7286
"deep state"


[31-May-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
they're still on about the deep state, even though trump's been purging literally everything


[31-May-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite was the 25th amendment consideration treason talk


[31-May-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, in effect the amendment exists to make a bloodless coup constitutional


[31-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Broke: Bloodless coup


[31-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Woke: Bloodied coup


[31-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bespoke: ASHEN COUP


[31-May-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
BURN IT ALL. SPEED BOAT DOPE. 666


[31-May-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so I'm hearing from a more right-leaning acquaintance of mine that Mueller's press conference was "problematic" and that the entire second volume of the mueller report was overstepping his bounds, since it singles Trump out for investigation on obstruction evidence


[31-May-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not really sure how to provide any sort of response to that without being accused of being "partisan"


[31-May-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
does this acquaintance understand the reason that mueller cannot find trump guilty of obstruction


[31-May-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, and that's the basis of their argument


[31-May-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but they're saying he can't give any sort of a verdict - guilty or innocent


[31-May-19 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that he has, in essence, made a guilty verdict in the way he has presented the evidence in the second volume


[31-May-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
~~evidence which the guy doesn't even think Mueller had the power to collect in the first place, if I am interpreting their statement correctly~~


[31-May-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"He is only permitted to state if there is sufficient evidence to pursue a conviction." - person saying Mueller overstepped his bounds in vol2


[31-May-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller's argument from what I understand


[31-May-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is that if he found evidence to clear on obstruction he would have said so


[31-May-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that since he cannot indict a sitting president, and thus a president could never be prosecuted and be given a chance to be cleared if accused of a crime


[31-May-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it is unfair to say "Yeah we have evidence of a crime and could convict but for this guideline"


[31-May-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What he is implying is "Impeachment is all we really have, Congress can do something if they want"


[31-May-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What this guy's argument is, is that Mueller effectively did say Trump is guilty in the way he presented the evidence, despite saying he would not make a judgement


[31-May-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that the evidence itself paints the picture, but that Mueller represented it that way


[31-May-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I kinda don't disagree with that


[31-May-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that in so doing, abdicated his duty


[31-May-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
hardly


[31-May-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should be able to be indicted while in office


[31-May-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't 1800


[31-May-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We can put the president in a DC jail and our country won't collapse if it comes to that


[31-May-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
While I agree, those are not the rules as currently written, and changing it now would not only be the wildest political stunt of 2019, it'd all but guarantee Trump claims victory both morally and legally


[31-May-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it might open a can of worms too


[31-May-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
but I'm not a lawyer


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executive branch has too much power, they've been creeping up on getting power since the 50s


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do agree that the reason behind why this rule exists - that the President cannot mount a fair defense - would need to be simultaneously changed


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single president has done it


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the president could actually be indicted this would fall away


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller could prosecute, Trump could defend


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This wouldn't be that much of a pain


[31-May-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The question is, how do we achieve that


[31-May-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Take away the DOJ standard thing


[31-May-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
well impeach him cause there's strong evidence he's done some wrong doing


[31-May-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Purely politics


[31-May-19 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yes, if Congress weren't wrapped up in partisanship this would've been over ages ago


[31-May-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
but of course while Mitch McConnell is still in the Congress they won't


[31-May-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only two impeachments we've had are violating the Tenure of Office Act and perjury about oral sex


[31-May-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
While McConnell is the guy in the hot seat I don't think he's the evil mastermind behind the republican party line


[31-May-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's strange, Senate majority leader is basically more of a VP than the actual VP


[31-May-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's just the fall guy who seems to be doing an excellent job of not falling yet


[31-May-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
it's like we have three VPs now


[31-May-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
actual VP, Senate majority leader, and House majority leader


[31-May-19 05:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-77-frugality-fables-and-the-poor-shaming-grift-of-financial-advice-journalism

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“How this millennial saved $1 million by age 30,” The Washington Post writes. “A Millennial Saved $100,000 With This Simple Habit,” CNBC insists. “How to save for retirement when you're living paychec
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[31-May-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
>since the 50s


[31-May-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/kim-jong-un-reportedly-executes-officials-after-hanoi-summit-collapse.html

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North Korea's Kim Jong Un reportedly executes officials after fail...
North Korea executed Kim Hyok Chol, its special envoy to the United States, and foreign ministry officials who carried out working-level negotiations for the second U.S.-North Korea summit in February, a South Korean newspaper reported on Friday.
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[31-May-19 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't meme on twitter hard enough for the Trumpster to retweet them


[31-May-19 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We live in a reality where it's entirely plausible that NK will kidnap the Wendy's twitter account managers in order to better negotiate with the US


[31-May-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it Arby's and watch the alt right explode (Arby's Waifu)


[31-May-19 10:29 AM] Lilly#4737
>white people are always colonists and must kill them (it is not!)


[31-May-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
can you provide evidence of people saying that white people should be killed?


[31-May-19 10:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow "machinegun song" in SA back in 2010.


[31-May-19 10:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or rather before that.


[31-May-19 10:40 AM] Crow#5457
idk what that is


[31-May-19 10:42 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I will link briefly, I need to find it in first place.


[31-May-19 11:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Scratch that, the song was from apartheid era and then was used inappropriately in post-apartheid, but the way it was sung, implies genocide.


[31-May-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fd8469f3d85943b498c8a609db46332f

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Amid reports of NKorean purge, there are reasons for caution
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — A South Korean newspaper reported Friday that North Korea executed a senior envoy involved in nuclear negotiations with the U.S. as well as four other high-level...
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[31-May-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/vaurorapub/status/1133770441502339072

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Valerie Aurora (@vaurorapub)
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Mueller: Did ANYONE do the reading assignment?

Warren: [raises hand]

Mueller: Anyone OTHER than Elizabeth?
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[31-May-19 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1134469934816346113?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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90% of the Drugs coming into the United States come through Mexico & our Southern Border. 80,000 people died last year, 1,000,000 people ruined. This has gone on for many years & nothing has been done about it. We have a 100 Billion Dollar Trade Deficit with Mexico. It’s...
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[31-May-19 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-May-19 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesellsmoor/2019/05/30/trump-administration-rebrands-carbon-dioxide-as-molecules-of-u-s-freedom/#603786c3a24d

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Trump Administration Rebrands Carbon Dioxide As "Molecules Of U.S....
The United States Department of Energy (DOE) has apparently started referring to carbon dioxide as “molecules of freedom” and natural gas as “freedom gas", according to its latest press release.
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[31-May-19 06:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
This is not how we defeat global warming what the fuck


[31-May-19 06:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
We should fill a room with molecules of freedom with trump inside.


[31-May-19 06:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://telegra.ph/Trump-bans-anime-and-manga-as-Chinese-cultural-import-05-31

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Trump bans anime and manga as Chinese "cultural import"
WASHINGTON, Dec 31 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s administration took aim at China’s popular anime and manga culture on Monday, imposing tariffs on the material imported from the fast-growing Asian power and banning certain content altogether.
A U.S. government stud...


[31-May-19 06:21 PM] ononim#8141
Yuge development


[31-May-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but only the chinese anime and manga?


[31-May-19 06:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They have this thing ?


[31-May-19 06:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
No more Chinese cartoons. Only true patriotic American cartoons (made in Canada)


[31-May-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh so we only get total drama now?


[31-May-19 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Article's from december 31


[31-May-19 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i haven't seen any other sources to substantiate this claim


[31-May-19 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a fake article generator site


[31-May-19 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can write whatever you want and share it


[31-May-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6aca0c83523d411ca78d9c6e9ca50ab4

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Mexico president: We won't react desperately to Trump threat
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Friday that Mexico won't respond to U.S. President Donald Trump's threat of coercive tariffs with desperation, but instead will...
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[31-May-19 07:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Putting tariffs on Mexican imports is just going to make more poor Mexican people wanting to cross into the US looking for a job. Trump must want this.


[31-May-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also goign to screw over US auto infrustructure


[31-May-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of our "US built cars" have most of their parts made in mexico and shipped here


[31-May-19 07:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Should be subject to advertising standards. Assembled in US.


[31-May-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the consumers and the factories will end up footign the bill for that


[31-May-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yet more food price rises!


[31-May-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yaaaaay


[31-May-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
I mean it had "Chinease ANime and Manga" in it so I thought it was obvious


[31-May-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
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[31-May-19 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
Putting it here insted of memes just in case


[31-May-19 07:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Who you want to fuck should not be "Politic" unless it is a kid. Also Witcher 3 certainly had the same "politic" as the bad "politic" section. Had a mission dedicated to it.


[31-May-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bbc9132adf4f4b56bb2eae44d8ebe4fa

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Lawyers: Docs show census changed to give Republicans edge
NEW YORK (AP) — A Republican redistricting expert advocated for adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census to give an electoral edge to white people and Republicans, opponents of the move...
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[31-May-19 07:20 PM] ononim#8141
@PwnyPony that's the joke


[31-May-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
some people are very mad about some games "pushing a political agenda" and lamenting about how "games are being ruined by politics" but for some reason it mostly happens when game prominently features  women/not white/not stright charater 🤔


[31-May-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
wonder why this happens


[31-May-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/29/gen-z-millennials-and-gen-x-outvoted-older-generations-in-2018-midterms/

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Gen Z, Millennials and Gen X outvoted older generations in 2018 mi...
Midterm voter turnout reached a modern high in 2018, and Generation Z, Millennials and Generation X accounted for a narrow majority of those voters
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[31-May-19 07:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"Eww Gay" and racist types getting upset that the gheys, blaccs and wamen are in their games.


[31-May-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
them tharr wamen are tookin' mah vidjya garms!


[31-May-19 07:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://splinternews.com/michigan-governor-smoking-tons-of-weed-could-fix-our-t-1835133609

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Michigan Governor: Smoking Tons of Weed Could Fix Our Terrible Roads
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer threw down the gauntlet on Thursday for Michigan residents who are both sick of the state’s abysmal road conditions, and also not nearly high enough.
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[31-May-19 07:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Blaze it


[31-May-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLqXkYrdmjY

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[31-May-19 10:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1134550682080620544?s=21

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[31-May-19 10:13 PM] illumnious#7938
All caps


[31-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-bans-resistance-famous-krassenstein-brothers-for-allegedly-operating-fake-accounts

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Twitter Bans #Resistance-Famous Krassenstein Brothers for Allegedl...
Ed and Brian Krassenstein are banned for life after ‘operating multiple fake accounts and purchasing account interactions,’ a Twitter spokesman said.
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[31-May-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[31-May-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
I always thought they were kinda clownish in their behavior on trump's tweets


[31-May-19 11:48 PM] Mikey#7286
i thought they were funny


[01-Jun-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh btw, I asked friend from yesterday (the one who said Mueller overstepped his bounds) for his opinion on Barr as well, for further insight into his perspective. This was the response:

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[01-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[01-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is the president not above the law given this DoJ directive


[01-Jun-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/31/728559903/ted-cruz-and-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-team-up-to-ban-lawmakers-from-lobbying

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Ted Cruz And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Team Up To Ban Lawmakers Fro...
The unlikely union started with a tweet from the democratic socialist congresswoman, to which the conservative senator replied, "Here's something I don't say often: on this point, I AGREE."
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[01-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
huh


[01-Jun-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of career lawmakers go on to become high ranking corporate lawyers, lobbyists, or directors, so I guess some people in these positions are sick of it


[01-Jun-19 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am very okay with this ban


[01-Jun-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Lol ted cruz


[01-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48478706

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Johnson would be excellent leader - Trump
The US president praises Conservative frontrunner Boris Johnson ahead of his UK state visit.
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[01-Jun-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know anything about boris johnson


[01-Jun-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if trump endorses him does that mean he should be voted against?


[01-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine a version of Trump that's smarter yet sleezier, and also british


[01-Jun-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so not good at all


[01-Jun-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, british villain trump


[01-Jun-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

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Boris Johnson
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson (born 19 June 1964), better known as Boris Johnson, is a British politician, journalist and popular historian who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Uxbridge and South Ruislip since 2015, having been the MP for Henley from 2001 to 20...
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[01-Jun-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god he even looks like a british trump


[01-Jun-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a1e311b477c641b681f0bf14464765f2

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https://apnews.com/a1e311b477c641b681f0bf14464765f2
Judge says Missouri clinic can keep providing abortions
ST. LOUIS (AP) — A judge issued an order Friday to keep Missouri's only abortion clinic operating over the objections of state health officials, delivering abortion-rights advocates a courtroom...
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[01-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's currently on trial for lying / deceptive advertisement during the brexit campaign


[01-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Johnson is a controversial figure in British politics and journalism. Supporters have praised him as an entertaining, humorous, and popular figure with appeal beyond traditional Conservative voters. Conversely, he has been criticised by figures on both the left and right, who accused him of elitism, cronyism, dishonesty, laziness, and using racist and homophobic language."


[01-Jun-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why does every country seem to have a political Trump now?


[01-Jun-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
first bolsanaro, now johnson


[01-Jun-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which country is next?


[01-Jun-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Is Trump a newly discovered species of human now?


[01-Jun-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/01dcc22192e6401891f00948ea712f23

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US companies are in line of fire of tariffs aimed at Mexico
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's surprise threat to impose escalating tariffs on Mexican imports jolted industry leaders throughout the U.S. economy Friday, sparked opposition even from...
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[01-Jun-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to sound like a complete conspiracy nut, but everyone you mentioned benefitted from groups like Cambridge Analytica


[01-Jun-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think this is just what happens when you set up a fall guy and he accidentally wins


[01-Jun-19 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
BOJO the Clown for PM!


[01-Jun-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

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11 killed in mass shooting in Virginia, police say
Police say an employee at a government building opened fire 'indiscriminately' before being killed by officers.
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[01-Jun-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/birmingham-council-lgbt-injunction_uk_5cf16ef4e4b0e8085e39b25c

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Birmingham Council Granted Injunction To Prevent Protests Against ...
Just in.
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[01-Jun-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
can't go to that site, trying to force me to accept a tracker


[01-Jun-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
umatrix is blocking it


[01-Jun-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/lgbt-lessons-in-schools-protests-birmingham-no-outsiders-injunction-a8938941.html

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Birmingham council wins injunction blocking anti-LGBT lesson prote...
Ruling follows weeks of demonstrations by parents
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[01-Jun-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
can't read that one either, is blocked entirely by umatrix


[01-Jun-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
gonna load it through archive


[01-Jun-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.fo/V1ngk

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LGBT lessons: Birmingham council wins injunction blocking protests...
archived 1 Jun 2019 00:47:18 UTC
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[01-Jun-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it is sad that the internet has come to this


[01-Jun-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
wow, umatrix didn't block the independent article for me


[01-Jun-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I have umatrix to block all scripts by default


[01-Jun-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
including first party


[01-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D77NrBWXUAADR4t.jpg

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[01-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[01-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Capt America's left hook is called the Tolerant Left


[01-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
@Torr https://twitter.com/kukuruyo/status/1127552405363724293

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https://twitter.com/kukuruyo/status/1127552405363724293
Radical centrism
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[01-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MBNHedger/status/1127555930684575745

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Hedger (@MBNHedger)
https://twitter.com/MBNHedger/status/1127555930684575745
@kukuruyo i may be over analyzing it...

But with the change in perspective in the second panel, tintin continues to shoot to his left.

I still think this is an accurate representation.
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[01-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
hahaha this would be so true


[01-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/ipw1tkw2v06z.png

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[01-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
centrists are easily drawn in by the right because the right prefers to maintain the status quo


[01-Jun-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
on top of some things just not having a solid compromise for


[01-Jun-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
like choosing between "we should enslave people" and "we shouldn't enslave people", you can't just say "we should enslave some people" without supporting slavery


[01-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Torr#5078
:ponythinking: ok craw


[01-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh


[01-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Mikey#7286
enslaving people seems like something that shouldn't be a right or left issue


[01-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
slavery gives a massive boost to productivity because of all the free labor


[01-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's why it was possible to build the great wall of china to begin with


[01-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
basically, slavery is a capitalist's wet dream


[01-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
and it's why the private prison system uses prisoners to make stuff for pennies an hour in horrible conditions


[01-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
with the threat of the worst psychological torture known to humanity if they don't comply


[01-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
and often even if they do comply


[01-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
basically everything that says "made in the USA" was actually made by prison slaves


[01-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't how centrism works


[01-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just a meme used by the hardcore left and hardcore right to try and pull people to them


[01-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
I've never seen a centrist in modern politics say anything other than to maintain the status quo


[01-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Zapp Branigan


[01-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
even if things are horrible


[01-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm not sure it's actually more productive just cheapest productive, the pyramids were built by skilled labor and hilariously quick too for a culture without anything more powerful than a camel or a particularly stong man


[01-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't centrism, that's a conservative


[01-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A centrist has ideals from the right and the left and it averages out to not being able to peg them on a simple 2D scale


[01-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
how do you average out healthcare


[01-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think a lot of people associate it with like


[01-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Honahue#0656
those who "earned" it


[01-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I am so smart by thinking everyone else is stupid"


[01-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
South Park centrists


[01-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like South Park libertarians


[01-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
I was gonna say South Park made radical centrism sexy


[01-Jun-19 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Except what we have is what centrists want. And in so far as the right is concerned they don't fundamentally represent a significant shift in politics. Historically, parties who have labeled themselves as "centrist" or "moderate" bent over backwards pretty easily for far-right politics when presented between it and even mild Social Democracy. The late Weimar Republic is a pretty infamous example of moderate capitulation to the NSDAP.


[01-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some centrists are basically kids that just want their picture on the proverbial fridge


[01-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put it on there and they shut up


[01-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
fascism in italy was the result of a leftist government capitulating to what amounted to a minor political rally in favor of fascists because they thought the fascists would stop the socialists


[01-Jun-19 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the American context, what would be our centrists are just conservatives and conservative Democrats. People who don't really want to move anywhere and pay lip service to respectability politics like Joe Biden. But internationally they're to the right of a sort of global centrist politic which may as well be liberalism-borderlining-socdems


[01-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean Italians couldn't win an African colonial war without cheating


[01-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty much every colonial war was cheating


[01-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Italian army was crushed in Spain by farmers during the civil war


[01-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civility in politics is overrated


[01-Jun-19 04:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
To be fair the Anarchists were pretty radical


[01-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
“Whatever happens, we have got
The Maxim gun, and they have not.”


[01-Jun-19 04:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Original AntiFa Action


[01-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
my mom is utterly convinced that biden is a super socialist pretending to be a centrist just to get votes, even though all evidence points towards him being a conservative democrat pretending to be leftist just to get votes


[01-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden isn't much more to the left of Bush Jr.


[01-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Biden is just Hillary with a benis


[01-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Honahue#0656
or white Obama


[01-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Honahue#0656
or old Beto


[01-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You basically have to just convince a few suburbs in Ohio and PA


[01-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And bam, White House


[01-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why waste time anywhere else


[01-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
he isn't even pretending to be leftist though, he's running on the "not Trump" "not AOC left"


[01-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
and AOC isn't even that left though if I was generous it's because she's holding back her power level


[01-Jun-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'd rather have the AOC left than the version of "left" the democrats think they are


[01-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
oh yeah definitely she's a start in the right direction


[01-Jun-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the democrats are only left in so far as thye arent as right as republicans


[01-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
left direction


[01-Jun-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's what the left has waited a century for


[01-Jun-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Since Debs ran for president


[01-Jun-19 04:55 AM] Honahue#0656
well 30 years, the left did succeed a few times early in the 20th century


[01-Jun-19 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
FDR in a way. Even if it was New Yorker aristocratic leftism. Leftism by necessity.


[01-Jun-19 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the New Deal Coalition created from that erodes away and died with Reagan. Jesse Jackson was the last gasp of the New Deal Left.


[01-Jun-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie and AOC represent a tentative revival of the New Deal philosophy. But they need more power.


[01-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, they are the old left but still capitalist types and it's ridiculous that capitalism but with a human face has become maligned in America


[01-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Torr#5078
:blossomforth:


[01-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Torr#5078
https://twitter.com/BardsDiegesis/status/1134488209516351488

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LMAO ÁFRICA?
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[01-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean, it is supposed to help prevent transmission of AIDS so in Africa it kinda makes sense there


[01-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Honahue#0656
personally I think it should only be if medically necessary, I've known people that did need it


[01-Jun-19 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how does it prevent the transmission of aids?


[01-Jun-19 06:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://qz.com/1632565/italy-to-evict-steve-bannon-from-his-far-right-training-academy/

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Italy is evicting Steve Bannon from the medieval monastery he plan...
Arrivederci.
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[01-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, the far right tends to suffer when you put them under legal scrutiny


[01-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause their entire belief system involves using the law as a cudgel against others and ignoring actually following it.


[01-Jun-19 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm having a hard time interpreting the right's disparaging remarks over the special cousel to be anything other than "but you weren't supposed to find *those* crimes!"


[01-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/pixelottie/status/1126868036567302151

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Lottie (@pixelottie)
https://twitter.com/pixelottie/status/1126868036567302151
Ben Shapiro: *builds entire career on saying controversial and misleading things*

Andrew Neil: "so, about some of these controversial and misleading things you've said..."

Ben Shapiro:
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[01-Jun-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-31/illinois-becomes-11th-state-to-legalize-recreational-marijuana


[01-Jun-19 07:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ywhahuh


[01-Jun-19 07:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess with Pence not there anymore...


[01-Jun-19 07:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought Pence was IN?


[01-Jun-19 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah you're right I'm tired


[01-Jun-19 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not that my mental acuity was really up to snuff earlier today either


[01-Jun-19 08:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Shooting in virginia beach


[01-Jun-19 08:05 AM] ISamusI#5581
hm?


[01-Jun-19 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
it prevents AIDS because being cut means you keeps pussy juices in less contact with the dick so th virus has less opportunity to start an infection on men is how I understand it


[01-Jun-19 08:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ISamusI https://pilotonline.com/news/local/crime/article_777b737e-83e3-11e9-b1d0-dff7ad725d5e.html

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13 dead, including gunman, in shooting at Virginia Beach Municipal...
"This is the most devastating day in the history of Virginia Beach," Mayor Bobby Dyer said in a news conference. "The people involved are our friends, co-workers, neighbors and colleagues."
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[01-Jun-19 08:12 AM] ISamusI#5581
He looks traumatized


[01-Jun-19 08:12 AM] ISamusI#5581
Other than that, that's plain awful


[01-Jun-19 08:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda) https://www.who.int/hiv/topics/malecircumcision/en/

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Male circumcision for HIV prevention
Male circumcision provides only partial protection, and therefore should be only one element of a comprehensive HIV prevention package.
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[01-Jun-19 08:55 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's not a cure it's just improving odds


[01-Jun-19 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, the glans is naturally a mucous membrane, circumcision removes the protective skin over the glans and causes it to turn into normal skin


[01-Jun-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
the virus can move through mucous membranes into the bloodstream


[01-Jun-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/8BQ5ud1

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Sometimes we get pleasant surprises
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[01-Jun-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
how the government is supposed to work


[01-Jun-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/business/trump-india-trade.html

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By ANA SWANSON and VINDU GOEL
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/business/trump-india-trade.html
Trump Administration Strips India of Special Trade Status
The status exempts billions of dollars of India’s products from American tariffs, part of a deepening clash over the country’s protections for its market.
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[01-Jun-19 12:49 PM] Crow#5457
designated


[01-Jun-19 03:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/446428-philippines-president-duterte-says-cured-himself-of-being-gay

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Philippines President Duterte says he 'cured' himself of being gay
Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte this week claimed that he was once gay but that he “cured” himself during his relationship with his former wife.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/duterte_philippines_getty.jpg


[01-Jun-19 03:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
Duterte wishes everyone a happy pride month


[01-Jun-19 03:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[01-Jun-19 04:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"I was gay until I discovered that females also had butts."
- Rodrigo Duterte, 2020


[01-Jun-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/081795a8c4fa4a479e374138e366b95f

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Officials ID Virginia Beach gunman as city employee
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) — The gunman who killed 12 people in a Virginia Beach municipal building was identified by police Saturday as a 15-year city employee who had served in the military and...
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[01-Jun-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2df3e561780b4353b46685e9a0243425

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Voter surge in 2018 prompts voting reforms, restrictions
ATLANTA (AP) — New York voters for years have experienced some of the longest wait times in the nation on Election Day. Attempts to fix the problem routinely became casualties of the divided...
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[01-Jun-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Jun-19 05:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, less than 12h after the shooting, it's barely news anymore


[01-Jun-19 05:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure we'll see some reactionary useless gun regulation pop up locally in response /s


[01-Jun-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It was like that for me when the Tree of Life shooting happened


[01-Jun-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Rather shaken the day of, since I was so close, and then nothing following


[01-Jun-19 05:54 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
There was another shooting ? :C


[01-Jun-19 05:55 PM] ononim#8141
Yes in Virginia


[01-Jun-19 05:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Fuck


[01-Jun-19 05:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Was It school or church ?


[01-Jun-19 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/lIVRVTjbJ5Y

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Sara Funflower
https://youtu.be/lIVRVTjbJ5Y
Climate Change Facts don't care about your Climate Denial Feelings
Source video: https://youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY
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[01-Jun-19 06:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Based hbomberguy


[01-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a way


[01-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
more shootings prevents action against them.


[01-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes us become dull to them, they become routine.


[01-Jun-19 06:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd still like someone (who shares this perspective) to sit down and explain the reasoning behind it. I know looking at the same facts and reaching opposite conclusions on them is the basis of political difference, but I don't *get* how Barr can be seen as being a better lawyer than Mueller https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/584147606100246559/unknown.png

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[01-Jun-19 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The inability to charge a sitting president is an extreme problem.


[01-Jun-19 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump somehow claws his way into a second term, he can basically become a dictator, he would just need to weaken the judiciary a little bit.


[01-Jun-19 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That policy's just based on a memo trying to tackle the Agnew problem, right? There is no existing law


[01-Jun-19 06:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(And I think Warren's effort to make a law on the matter is coming in *way* too late to do any good)


[01-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is the structure of the presidency itself now


[01-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But good luck getting a president running on "I want to be in an office that I will weaken considerably"


[01-Jun-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48486672

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US demands social media info from visa applicants
Nearly all visa applicants will have to submit social media names, email address and phone numbers.
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[01-Jun-19 09:08 PM] Lilly#4737
france: another terroristic attack
russia:

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[02-Jun-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*votes for a candidate that promises to wipe it out*


[02-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_dabs on the Boomers_


[02-Jun-19 12:19 AM] ononim#8141
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[02-Jun-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
truth


[02-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rainbow Washing


[02-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The cousin of Pink Washing and Green Washing


[02-Jun-19 12:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bwo5Vk5gzhx/?igshid=1v48s6gazd68w

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@danktrumpmeme on Instagram: “Let the meme wars begin!”
1,229 Likes, 19 Comments - @danktrumpmeme on Instagram: “Let the meme wars begin!”
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[02-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[02-Jun-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where has this person been


[02-Jun-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the memes began before anyone was even running against Trump


[02-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wkrg.com/news/northwest-florida/matt-gaetz-assaulted-outside-town-hall-meeting-in-pensacola/2045486048

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Matt Gaetz assaulted outside town hall meeting in Pensacola
Matt Gaetz was allegedly assaulted while leaving the Brew Ha Ha town hall meeting on Saturday, June 1.
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[02-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disgusting


[02-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who wastes beer


[02-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or soda whatever


[02-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, drinks are considered a deadly weapon when thrown at shitty politicians


[02-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
in the UK, it's a national pastime to throw drinks at shitty politicians


[02-Jun-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48478348

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US war crimes accused wins pre-trial release
A judge frees the combat veteran after prosecutors acknowledged tracking the defence team's emails.
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[02-Jun-19 06:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446491-trump-announces-departure-of-white-house-lawyer-emmet-flood

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Trump announces departure of White House lawyer Emmet Flood
President Trump on Saturday announced the departure of White House lawyer Emmet Flood.
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[02-Jun-19 06:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ab96c4d9b3a84ef9b10598781ff38e93

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Biden declares LGBTQ rights his No. 1 legislative priority
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden declared Saturday that the Equality Act would be his top legislative priority, an effort to enshrine LGBTQ protections into the...
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[02-Jun-19 06:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden declared Saturday that the Equality Act would be his top legislative priority, an effort to enshrine LGBTQ protections into the nation’s labor and civil rights laws.

The former vice president shared his hopes of signing the legislation as part of a keynote address to hundreds of activists at the Human Rights Campaign’s annual Ohio gala on the first day of Pride Month. In a half-hour at the lectern, his remarks ranged from emotional tributes to his audience and their personal endurance to condemnations of President Donald Trump.

“It’s wrong and it is immoral what they’re doing,” Biden said of the Trump administration. Among other Trump polices, he cited attempts to bar transgender troops in the U.S. military, allow individuals in the medical field to refuse to treat LGBTQ individuals, and allow homeless shelters to refuse transgender occupants.


[02-Jun-19 08:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-19 08:17 AM] Mikey#7286
:thonk:


[02-Jun-19 08:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48487973

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Trump: Prepare for no deal and send in Farage
Britain should walk away from the EU unless it secures the deal it wants, the US president says.
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[02-Jun-19 08:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Orange man wants BOJO the clown to be his friend.


[02-Jun-19 08:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
American orange man seeks loving relationship with british orange man: let's orange mating call fly


[02-Jun-19 08:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48487984

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Protester grabs mic from US presidential hopeful
Senator Kamala Harris, who is running in 2020, was interrupted on-stage by an animal rights protester.
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[02-Jun-19 09:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/88f844772f6b4e55a72396c930ebfc0a

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Virginia Beach shines light on victims, not mass shooter
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) — The victims of America's latest mass shooting had been dead for less than a day when police and city officials released a detailed presentation with their names, photos,...
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[02-Jun-19 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like people are starting to learn


[02-Jun-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
that you shouldn't glorify the ones doing the shooting


[02-Jun-19 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope it happens more often, though in america that's a needle in a hay stack


[02-Jun-19 10:38 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/may/30/congressman-hunter-says-he-probably-killed-hundred/?fbclid=IwAR3szwlONV-d8TNrjLzgqyK_L36vUWcqIIgM2LoTvf6YFmM38NOzEFM71ss&sfns=mo

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Congressman Hunter Says He Probably Killed 'Hundreds' Of Civilians...
Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Alpine, continues to defend the San Diego-based Navy SEAL accused of war crimes by saying he also posed with dead bodies and probably killed “hundreds of civilians” while serving in Fallujah.
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[02-Jun-19 10:39 AM] ononim#8141
Normal thing to admit to without any shame by a mainstream politican


[02-Jun-19 10:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yep, that;s a thing you admit freely, totally great!


[02-Jun-19 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

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Bernie Sanders
Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is an American politician who has served as the junior United States Senator from Vermont since 2007. Vermont's at-large Congressman from 1991 to 2007, he is the longest serving independent in U.S. congressional history and a ...
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[02-Jun-19 01:51 PM] Crow#5457
is it just me, or is the first paragraph in code block for some reason


[02-Jun-19 02:51 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/31/media/laura-ingraham-paul-nehlen-extremists/index.html

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Fox News stands by Laura Ingraham after she defends white supremac...
Fox News on Friday afternoon stood by Laura Ingraham after she defended a white supremacist and several other fringe people who have been banned or disciplined by large social media companies.
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[02-Jun-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-gif-5787388

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[02-Jun-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/010c095e66924bbba57002bfe985277d

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Pompeo says US ready to talk to Iran with 'no preconditions'
BELLINZONA, Switzerland (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday that the Trump administration is ready for unconditional discussions with Iran in an effort to ease rising tensions...
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[02-Jun-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there should be an asterisk next to unconditional discussions


[02-Jun-19 04:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unconditional! Well, except for the conditions.


[02-Jun-19 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3dba0b327e8e45e5b9589db4bb735505

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Pentagon tells White House to stop politicizing military
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — The Pentagon has told the White House to stop politicizing the military, amid a furor over a Trump administration order to have the Navy ship named for the late U.S. Sen....
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[02-Jun-19 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/donald-trump-twitter-meghan-markle-nasty-denial

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Donald Trump says he never called Meghan Markle 'nasty,' calls com...
Donald Trump denied calling Meghan Markle "nasty."
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[02-Jun-19 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(note, Fox is just barely calling him out for lying, right at the end)


[02-Jun-19 05:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1135158377028497409?s=21

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CNN (@CNN)
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1135158377028497409?s=21
The number of people who want President Trump impeached and removed from office rises to 41% in a new CNN poll. https://t.co/W1pyuk4KwN https://t.co/gKK0YfAeG0
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[02-Jun-19 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if I can find an english article
https://elpais.com/internacional/2019/06/01/actualidad/1559389670_532613.html

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EE UU da un ultimátum a Europa para que rectifique su plan de defensa
Washington exige que sus empresas participen en el desarrollo de armamento de la UE
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[02-Jun-19 05:57 PM] illumnious#7938
I’ll translate it to English


[02-Jun-19 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The tl;dr translation is Trump has been telling the EU to spend more on defence


[02-Jun-19 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now that the EU has said "OK, we'll spend more on defence, using european arms companies", Trump's gone "No, not like that; spend more on OUR arms companies"

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[02-Jun-19 05:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the best deals


[02-Jun-19 06:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Gee


[02-Jun-19 06:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
41% of... Canadians want him impeached? Some context in the tweet would have been nice. 🤔 :ponythinking:


[02-Jun-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1134538166919204865

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....
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[02-Jun-19 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let us celebrate this glorious occasion by stripping you of all your rights! Out of pure love and support of course!"


[02-Jun-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-pride-month-what_n_5cf17d9fe4b0a1997b6a4272

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Trump Tweets About Pride Month As Administration Rolls Back LGBTQ ...
Let us count the anti-LGBTQ policies the president has supported.
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[02-Jun-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@illumnious Democrats will do nothing as usual


[02-Jun-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHQjEgwFBh4

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Leftist Tech Support
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Hasan v Destiny - Enlightened Centrism is destroying our planet pl...
My Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeftistTech My Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/leftisttechsupport
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[03-Jun-19 12:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/900-migrants-found-texas-facility-125-person-capacity/story?id=63404988

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Nearly 900 migrants found at Texas facility with 125-person capaci...
Homeland Security inspector general has found “dangerous overcrowding” and unsanitary conditions at a Customs and Border Protection facility in El Paso, Texas.
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[03-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-wont-leave-white-house-voluntarily-if-he-loses-2020-election-1441216

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Trump won't leave White House "voluntarily" if he loses 2020 elect...
"He'll have a run at saying, 'It was a rigged game so I'm not leaving,'" said Weld.
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[03-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[03-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He accepted Democrats taking the House back


[03-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Without saying it was rigged


[03-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can you imagine what he might have done to all the private rooms


[03-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, a coke machine and microwave next to the president's bed


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Portraits of himself all over the place


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gold-plated toilets


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Well he's not Congress so


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Idk


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Mikey#7286
I can see him doing that TSP


[03-Jun-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One way or the other I don't think he'll leave quietly


[03-Jun-19 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he wants to be a winner


[03-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When are the primaries again


[03-Jun-19 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's a good question, Megaman. The primaries aren't something that's conducted at the federal level and so they happen at slightly different times - plus, we've got a couple states that have moved to mail-only ballots


[03-Jun-19 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
`As of January 2017, three of the 22 states—Oregon (2000), Washington (2011) and Colorado (2013)—hold all elections entirely by mail.`


[03-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God damn it


[03-Jun-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the timing of it is a bit of a mess


[03-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All of this stuff should just be an online poll


[03-Jun-19 12:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that assumes that internet access is equally available in the US - which, unfortunately, it is not, and it'd disadvantage a lot of rural and low-income voters


[03-Jun-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder there are still people in the Carolinas without electricity.


[03-Jun-19 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd actually be more okay with having paper ballots over the current electronic voting systems


[03-Jun-19 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(vs. moving to an internet-based system)


[03-Jun-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm also of the opinion that the primaries aren't technically necessary and are contributing to the two-party dominance in the country, and that we may be better off with an open general election via approval voting...but that's upending the status quo


[03-Jun-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well the primaries are actually considered a private affair, since the political parties aren't actually government offices, and are private organizations. So the concept of the primary isn't even tied to the official American electoral program.


[03-Jun-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
They could run all their candidates at once in the general, but that would dillute the party power, or so they think.


[03-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/02/mulvaney-trump-deadly-serious-about-tariffs-1349665

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Trump ‘deadly serious’ about Mexico tariffs, Mulvaney says
"I fully expect these tariffs to go on to at least the 5 percent level on June 10," Mulvaney said.
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[03-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
I love this image


[03-Jun-19 01:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Gonna sound like a real illuminati nut here but I think a hefty portion of the political machine in the US happens outside of the elected body as well. We've got lobbyists writing legislation and think tanks driving opinion on the Hill, most political funding comes from private sources, regulatory capture is happening for several industries, and in general there's a corporatocracy that's developed in the US that is really calling the shots


[03-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yeah


[03-Jun-19 01:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you don't need lizard people to substantiate that there's something above the government


[03-Jun-19 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
You don't need Outsiders when in the end a critical analysis turns up that there's a great deal of wheeling and dealing with rich people to fund campaigns and encourage certain legislation to get things done.


[03-Jun-19 01:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
at the same time, our elections *are* actually becoming more transparent and democratic


[03-Jun-19 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Books written by campaigners and stuff to talk about what they actually do admit that much.


[03-Jun-19 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
There was one I was reading about a disgraced guy from the Carolinas or something written by the campaign manager that talked openly and proudly about how they'd visit the silent and unknown billionaires and old money types of people who've only ever inherited their wealth to knock on their doors for money, or would offer to donate large sums if they can sit down and meet the candidates and talk about their policies.


[03-Jun-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
So there is a large amount of horse trading in the political sector that happens at the back end that we don't see to buy and trade sponsors to get the campaign money needed to get elected, and these rich people have more capital to throw around and represent the easiest mass donations.


[03-Jun-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a fluke to get people like AOC.


[03-Jun-19 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
AOC is literally a fluke since the guy who otherwise had her district was so confident he never tried and she managed to pull a sneak attack. It's not certain it can replicated again elsewhere in the nation.


[03-Jun-19 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
So for future successes to pull off there needs to be considerable reorganization of the base and re-radicalization.


[03-Jun-19 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
So, join your local union and encourage it to turn into the local Sans Coulletes gang


[03-Jun-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: there's apparently a random warehouse in new york city that they ship off crappy tenured teachers that don't do their jobs to sit at to do nothing for hours instead of teaching because having them teaching would be worse (they're paid to sit around for 7 hours)


[03-Jun-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[03-Jun-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
there is a deep state but it's not what trump says it is


[03-Jun-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
it's lobbyists' money


[03-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/city-pays-exiled-teachers-to-snooze-as-rubber-rooms-return/

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City pays exiled teachers to snooze as ‘rubber rooms’ return
The city’s infamous rubber rooms have rebounded. In one of the “reassignment centers,” 16 exiled educators sit in a city Department of Education building in Long Island City, Queens, including a do…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/inset-top-right-portrait-smart-template-11.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[03-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31494936/ns/us_news-education/t/nyc-teachers-paid-do-nothing/

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http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31494936/ns/us_news-education/t/nyc-teachers-paid-do-nothing/
700 NYC teachers paid to do nothing
Hundreds of New York City public school teachers accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct are being paid their full salaries to sit around all day.
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[03-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
basically, they can't legally fire them without opening a whole can of worms, but they're incredibly bad at their jobs


[03-Jun-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
>Because their union contract makes it extremely difficult to fire them, the teachers have been banished by the school system to its "rubber rooms" — off-campus office space where they wait months, even years, for their disciplinary hearings.


[03-Jun-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh


[03-Jun-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misunderstood and thought it was some weird new education denial tactic of hiring teachers to not actually teach students...


[03-Jun-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly because context in my brain was lacking


[03-Jun-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it pretty much is


[03-Jun-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
in some cases there's just a single stamping of paperwork (which is virtual anyways) waiting before the person resumes teaching


[03-Jun-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is clearly not high priority because salaries mean budget


[03-Jun-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
in gov't, if you reduce costs, you get a lower budget


[03-Jun-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's a smart tactic to keep costs as high as possible without doing anything so that your budget stays high, so that when you really do need the money, you hav it


[03-Jun-19 02:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554 Brits ready to pay £1000+ for an ambulance trip?

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US Ambassador to the UK Woody Johnson tells #Marr that the whole of the economy, including the #NHS, will be “on the table” in a future US-UK trade deal after Brexit 

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[03-Jun-19 10:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-reportedly-thinks-theres-no-expectation-of-privacy-on-social-media/

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Facebook reportedly thinks there's no 'expectation of privacy' on ...
The social network wants to dismiss a lawsuit stemming from the Cambridge Analytica scandal.
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[03-Jun-19 11:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48493702

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'Purged' North Korean diplomat appears with Kim
Kim Yong-chol was reported to be in a labour camp, but state media say he attended a show on Sunday.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/15036/production/_107207068_5d0875cc-60c2-4a5e-9a48-809e4a230337.jpg


[03-Jun-19 11:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
I guess uh-


[03-Jun-19 11:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
so much for dead?


[03-Jun-19 12:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> low quality visuals
> face covered
Seems legit.


[03-Jun-19 01:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht40yrt3VrY

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Bloomberg
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The Big Brexit Short
On the night of the Brexit referendum the British pound went into free fall, but while many watched with horror, a handful of hedge funds were making stagger...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ht40yrt3VrY/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Jun-19 01:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Brexit was a money grab by the rich? 😱


[03-Jun-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trump-uk-visit-penis-stansted-airport-protest-climate-change-real-essex-a8941271.html

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Trump faces giant penis mown into field near airport where he land...
‘Climate change is real,’ teenager points out in message for US president
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/06/03/08/trump-message-2.jpg


[03-Jun-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/97064142e675468ea48090be89e2ab44

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Trump meets queen, escalates feud with London mayor
LONDON (AP) — Mixing pageantry and political pugilism, President Donald Trump opened a state visit to Britain on Monday by drawing a smile from Queen Elizabeth II and stepping up a long-running...
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[03-Jun-19 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/02/there-is-hard-data-that-shows-that-a-centrist-democrat-would-be-a-losing-candidate/

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There is hard data that shows a centrist Dem would lose
Economist Thomas Piketty wrote a paper about this in 2018, though the Democrats paid no attention
https://media.salon.com/2019/05/harris-booker-biden.jpg


[03-Jun-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/DwkEDWz

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Reposting for awareness
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[03-Jun-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
Well nit nothing, the jpurnalist who did got thesmeselves killed


[03-Jun-19 05:09 PM] ononim#8141
iirc


[03-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
there's a comment thread on that post calling for guillotines


[03-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/DwkEDWz/comment/1658853335>


[03-Jun-19 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/twittermoments/status/1135457452370157569?s=21

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Donald Trump and Melania have arrived in London’s Stansted Airport for the US president’s state visit. 
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[03-Jun-19 05:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
I wonder. What if some rich good guy hired body guards for various journalists


[03-Jun-19 05:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
And help keep them safe from hitmen and the like


[03-Jun-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
why would they


[03-Jun-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
rich people only care about philanthropy when it benefits them


[03-Jun-19 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I could only see this happening if the journalists were privately hired by the rich person themselves to investigate a high risk subject


[03-Jun-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then the only way i see this happening is if a company wanted to sabotage a competitor


[03-Jun-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then why do that, when you can just leak information to national press you've already bought out


[03-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everybody posts that picture of a guy standing up to a tank on an otherwise empty street and think "Yeah, that's Tiananmen Square, that's what they want to censor"


[03-Jun-19 06:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And nobody posts the pictures of crowds of hundreds being shot dead in the streets by rifle squads

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[03-Jun-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
am i allowed to post any of those images here?


[03-Jun-19 07:53 PM] Mikey#7286

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[03-Jun-19 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a very cursed image


[03-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Mitch is the dad and Sarah Sanders is us mom lol


[03-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't know who the little girl is


[03-Jun-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either but she is one elderly little girl


[03-Jun-19 07:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/GfJ5VYsH4X4

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Vaush
https://youtu.be/GfJ5VYsH4X4
Is Judaism a Religion? A Critique of Zionist Antisemitism
I suppose I should respect precedent and make it extremely clear - as I do in this video - that my criticisms are levied exclusively at Zionism as a politica...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GfJ5VYsH4X4/hqdefault.jpg


[03-Jun-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Got one over the English, at least


[03-Jun-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/64c6390057e0421e91db33165d886ac8

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Analysis: Time to legislate? Restless senators hope so
WASHINGTON (AP) — Some of the old timers in the Senate are getting fed up with the lack of action on legislation, but after weeks of focus on approving President Donald Trump's backlog of...
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[03-Jun-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Some of the old timers in the Senate are getting fed up with the lack of action on legislation, but after weeks of focus on approving President Donald Trump’s backlog of nominees, there’s a chance the chamber will soon be stretching its legs again.

Don’t look for action on top-tier issues like infrastructure funding, stabilizing “Obamacare” or a trade pact. But next-level measures are moving onto Capitol Hill’s agenda, including bills to tackle prescription drug costs, fund the government, increase the Treasury’s borrowing cap and address the humanitarian crisis at the southern border.

The potential for a new legislative push on middle-tier issues promises to test the Senate, where the basics of legislating sometimes get lost and where talented newcomers like former GOP standard-bearer Mitt Romney and former two-term Florida GOP Gov. Rick Scott are already experiencing frustration at the state of things. With the 2020 presidential campaign well underway, lawmakers know the window for action will quickly close.


[03-Jun-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/69bd470569714b28aff1497d3bde6a7a

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Congress finally to send $19B disaster aid bill to Trump
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress is finally shipping President Donald Trump a $19.1 billion disaster aid bill, a measure stalled for months by infighting, misjudgment, and a presidential feud with...
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[03-Jun-19 08:05 PM] RYDE#8862
This may not end well


[03-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fully expecting a petty veto


[03-Jun-19 08:45 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hopefully Congress has enough of a spine to override


[03-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/SpQ16wK

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The Tiananmen Square Massacre picture we all should be posting
https://i.imgur.com/vZxpNPvh.jpg


[03-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/iEP8zeH.mp4

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Today is the 30th anniversary of Tiananmen Square. Let us never forget.
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[03-Jun-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48503170

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Hammond rejects idea millions in dire poverty
The chancellor accepts many are struggling, but rejects a critical UN report.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07c449q.jpg


[04-Jun-19 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/1hsiuEEcGTo

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Guardian News
https://youtu.be/1hsiuEEcGTo
Video of Boris Johnson criticising Trump beamed onto Big Ben
A 2015 video in which Boris Johnson claims Donald Trump is "unfit to hold the office of president" was projected onto Big Ben on Sunday night. The campaign g...
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[04-Jun-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/44b759e73472440ca60d782e44faa572

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Congress launches Big Tech antitrust probe
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The federal government may be warming up its antitrust enforcement machine and pointing it at Big Tech. On Monday, the House Judiciary Committee announced a sweeping...
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[04-Jun-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f1f93e5f11634ba994dfd21bbc32e73b

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Long list of troubled nursing homes revealed by senators
WASHINGTON (AP) — The federal government for years has kept under wraps the names of hundreds of nursing homes around the country found by inspectors to have serious ongoing health, safety or...
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[04-Jun-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/03/dems-trump-confused-after-calling-senate-vote-already-approved-bill/1335578001/

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'Clearly confused': Dems call out Trump after he wrongly says Sena...
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer tweeted that the president was "clearly confused."
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[04-Jun-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
>Minutes after the House of Representatives passed a $19.1 billion bipartisan disaster assistance bill, President Donald Trump praised it and called on the Senate to pass the legislation.


[04-Jun-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
>The only problem? The Senate already approved it and the bill is now going to Trump to sign.


[04-Jun-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
tbh trump winning without a massive russia-funded ad/troll campaign makes less sense than him winning with the aid


[04-Jun-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
there's no way this idiot would've won without massive russian interference


[04-Jun-19 10:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, I was just reminded on the news but if ya'll think the Trump impeachment is slow, our former governor in Michigan Rick Snyder is still being investigated over his administration's fumbling of Flint's water crisis. There's been a new turn over his cell phones and he's been maybe six months at least out of office.


[04-Jun-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
the only people I've ever seen think things are going "too slow" are trumpanzees


[04-Jun-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
congress definitely seems to be dragging its feet, but I don't think there's ever a time that congress isn't dragging its feet


[04-Jun-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
but the house is exhausting every single legal option they have before going in for impeachment it seems like


[04-Jun-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
because the more they investigate, the more trump attempts to obstruct, and the worse he looks in the long run


[04-Jun-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of sad that literally "I'm not touching youuuuu" works on the leader of the most powerful nation in the world


[04-Jun-19 10:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/more-4-million-people-risk-not-being-counted-2020-census-n1013406

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More than 4 million could be left out of 2020 census, new report says
Black and Latino households face the greatest risk of being undercounted, while whites, in some scenarios, could be overcounted, the Urban Institute said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_17/2831676/190423-census-protest-supreme-court-cs-1145a_a368c9c7407a44a2509f12f2762433d2.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[04-Jun-19 11:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll have to dig up a written report, but there was a bit on the radio yesterday morning or before about how it was found that the reason they're trying to get a citizenship question added to the census was because it would mean counts would end up favoring entirely Republican districts. This was a goal a Republican Party advisor came to learn before he passed away and his research documents recently uncovered. They're going before the Supreme Court as evidence for a nation-wide gerrymandering conspiracy by Trump's administration.


[04-Jun-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's ironic that the only reason this came out is because his own family members didn't agree with what he was doing


[04-Jun-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
(that dude was called "the Republican Party's gerrymandering guru")


[04-Jun-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
I forget who, I think his daughter found all the drives with that shit on it after he died


[04-Jun-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
and willingly gave it up to be analyzed without a warrant


[04-Jun-19 11:34 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, that hbomberguy video you linked about climate change is really good, just got around to watching it


[04-Jun-19 11:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
👍


[04-Jun-19 11:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO SELL TJOSE HOUSES TO?


[04-Jun-19 11:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
AQUAMAN?


[04-Jun-19 11:34 AM] Crow#5457
dolphins, obviously


[04-Jun-19 11:35 AM] Crow#5457
they're the inheritors of the sea


[04-Jun-19 11:35 AM] Crow#5457
crows are the inheritors of the sky


[04-Jun-19 11:35 AM] Crow#5457
elephants are the inheritors of the earth


[04-Jun-19 11:35 AM] Crow#5457
the only question is how much of the history of humanity will be left to help them


[04-Jun-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/03/729329601/sudan-security-forces-open-fire-on-protesters-in-capital

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Sudanese Security Forces Open Fire On Protesters In Capital
Local media are reporting dozens of protesters have been killed. Demonstrators are demanding a quick transition to civilian rule following the ouster of Sudan's president in April.
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[04-Jun-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
rip sudan


[04-Jun-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
>The leaders of the long-running protest movement in Sudan say they're halting all contact with the military and calling for a campaign of civil disobedience and a general strike after Sudanese security forces opened fire on protesters in the capital, Khartoum, on Monday.


[04-Jun-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
>Soldiers shot pro-democracy demonstrators outside the country's military headquarters, killing several people, according to local media reports and witness testimony, before dispersing throughout the city.


[04-Jun-19 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
>A spokesperson for a doctor's association, the Central Committee of Sudan Doctors, which has been helping coordinate the protests, told NPR, "The Transitional Military Council forces are firing live ammunition inside East Nile Hospital and chasing peaceful protestors inside the hospital's campus. Royal Care Hospital in Buri area is under siege by the Transitional Military Council (TMC) forces at the moment. TMC's forces are preventing volunteers from reaching the hospital. "


[04-Jun-19 11:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Here we go


[04-Jun-19 11:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the protestors legit shit down the entire country.


[04-Jun-19 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
💩


[04-Jun-19 11:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone from the lowest janitor to the bankers went on mass strike


[04-Jun-19 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/us/leslie-van-houten-manson-family-parole/index.html

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Manson family member Leslie Van Houten denied parole
This is the third time in a three-year period Van Houten was denied parole.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/140807135340-01-manson-murderds---restricted-story-top.jpg


[04-Jun-19 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
>"Ms. Van Houten and the Manson family committed some of the most notorious and brutal killings in California history," Newsom said. "When considered as a whole, I find the evidence shows that she currently poses an unreasonable danger to society if released from prison at this time."


[04-Jun-19 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
>Van Houten, 69, was 19 years old when she met Charles Manson and became part of his murderous cult that came to be called the "Manson Family," according to parole documents.


[04-Jun-19 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, it seems like the attack in sudan was a direct order


[04-Jun-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
not a spur of the moment thing


[04-Jun-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
basically, someone high enough got annoyed that "these dirty civilians" weren't cooperating and ordered soldiers to start shooting them


[04-Jun-19 02:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Welp, looks like George Nader got arrested for child porn. Again. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/3/george-nader-robert-mueller-probe-witness-faces-ch/

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George Nader, Robert Mueller probe witness, faces child porn charges
George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman who worked to advance Saudi Arabia's agenda to the Trump administration and who later provided grand jury testimony to special counsel Robert Mueller, has
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[04-Jun-19 03:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>the page isn't redirecting properly
>This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies


[04-Jun-19 03:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Fuck you too Washington Times


[04-Jun-19 03:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I literally have cookies enabled too. Maybe it's that pesky Do Not Track™ setting that websites can just outright ignore anyway :shrugpony:


[04-Jun-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/90e5a7bcca154742a24da1a51ea0f36d

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The Latest: Trump predicts passage of Brexit deal, lauds May
LONDON (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump's visit to Europe (all times local): 2:55 p.m. President Donald Trump is predicting the eventual passage of a Brexit deal.
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[04-Jun-19 04:19 PM] Lilly#4737
even the large-caliber sniper rifle can not be trusted for ukrainians

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[04-Jun-19 04:22 PM] Lilly#4737
but now it's possible to use on kitchen as whisk


[04-Jun-19 05:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1135856698181148674?s=21

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Not everyone was excited about President Trump’s visit. Thousands of anti-Trump protesters will take to the streets of London as Trump meets with the British prime minister. https://t.co/eUKhITZLl2 https://t.co/MYoGnVamCg
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[04-Jun-19 07:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Protests were fake and protests coverage is fake news. Trump said so.


[04-Jun-19 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Jun-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48508202

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US and China trade barbs on Tiananmen anniversary
The US Secretary of State had called on China to say how many people died in the 1989 crackdown.
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[04-Jun-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Mr Pompeo criticised China's human rights record and called for it to reveal how many died in the crackdown.

A Chinese embassy spokesman in Washington DC said his comments were "an affront to the Chinese people".

In 1989, a large political protest in Beijing triggered a brutal clampdown by the communist authorities.

The Chinese government has never said how many people died at Tiananmen Square, although estimates range from the hundreds to thousands.

On Monday, Mr Pompeo had urged China to "make a full, public accounting of those killed or missing to give comfort to the many victims of this dark chapter of history".

He also accused China of "[abusing] human rights whenever it serves its interests", giving the example of China cracking down on its minority Uighur people in the Xinjiang region.


[04-Jun-19 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what? last i remember, nothing happened on june 4th, 1989.


[04-Jun-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, it is pompeo who is wrong


[04-Jun-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jun-19 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/saberspark/status/1135659693605564416?s=21

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nobody: 

Hollywood: Here's a movie about a British Corgi who is sexually assaulted by an obnoxious, American Corgi who has a big butt and wears makeup. Also Donald Trump is there https://t.co/tByhJVX7sn
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[04-Jun-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/04/c_138116711.htm


[04-Jun-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Extra damage controlly today


[04-Jun-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But even they know not to delete Americans shitposting on their FB


[04-Jun-19 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1135970709363220481?s=21

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China issues travel warning for U.S. citing harassment, shootings, robberies and theft https://t.co/i1ZwCeVvC5
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[04-Jun-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Its not wrong tbh


[04-Jun-19 10:33 PM] Litrojia#0612
Freedom is getting shot by your fellow citizens instead of your government :dab:


[04-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-could-become-first-state-ban-cat-declawing-n1013541

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New York could become first state to ban cat declawing
Declawing a cat is already illegal in much of Europe as well as in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Denver.
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[04-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>illegal to remove a cat's claws
>perfectly okay to hack off their balls

Wow I can't believe oppression against men is real 😔😔😔


[04-Jun-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
boot liccing https://twitter.com/bj_jones001/status/1135987132235997185

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Hey heyyyyyy Philly!!!! More colors more PRIDE 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈!!! First civilian to pose with our special Philly PD Pride mobile!!! 🙌🏽💯 Look out for it’s debut at Philly Pride this weekend!!!! #PrideMonth2019 #Philadelphia @PPDJoeSulli...
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[04-Jun-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
Boot and murder of innocents now in RainbowTM flavour


[04-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
that doesn't look like a bad cop


[04-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Vaila#5808
https://thinkprogress.org/trans-woman-died-ice-custody-pride-2aec071828ae/

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A trans woman died in ICE custody on the first day of Pride Month,...
Johana Medina needed medical attention for complications stemming from HIV/AIDS.
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[04-Jun-19 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.theonion.com/last-ditch-climate-change-report-provides-locations-of-1835244382

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[04-Jun-19 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
@Vaila disgsuting


[04-Jun-19 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
lord


[04-Jun-19 11:36 PM] ononim#8141
I hate this fucking piece of shit reality


[04-Jun-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/1136025332580925440

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Today marks the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

This recently declassified British diplomatic cable concerning the Massacre is horrifying.

But you should read it.

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[05-Jun-19 12:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/apple-tim-cook-interview-wwdc-2019-cbs-news-exclusive/

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[05-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apple is selling privacy as a boutique accessory instead of a right


[05-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When did it stop being "We're not collecting your data" and become "We won't do anything bad with your data"


[05-Jun-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We won't not not to build a chinese social credit like system with your data"


[05-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They don't need to build a new system though. We're all already in China's system 🙃


[05-Jun-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but it;s not active in america


[05-Jun-19 02:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(yet)


[05-Jun-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[05-Jun-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most famous day that never happened today

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[05-Jun-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw someone say that to do the whole "Tiananmen Square June 4 1989 free Tibet" thing is racist


[05-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*doing


[05-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Vaila#5808
https://twitter.com/smashmouth/status/1135974020841480192

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Straight Pride Parade????? FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!
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[05-Jun-19 02:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's a "straight pride" parade?


[05-Jun-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
>exist


[05-Jun-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
there's your straight pride


[05-Jun-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/D8PraMFWkAMzsDI.mp4

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[05-Jun-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
apple in a nutshell


[05-Jun-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
incredibly nasty company with loadsa money


[05-Jun-19 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Apple could sell a bag of air for $1000 if they stuck an apple logo on it.


[05-Jun-19 02:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
imho I'm not sure "pride" is the right word for LGBT


[05-Jun-19 02:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get that it's good to not be ashamed to be LGBT, you shouldn't be


[05-Jun-19 02:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But "pride" just feels a bit like jumping to the other extreme for me


[05-Jun-19 02:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Straight pride is like having pride in the temperature in your room being within the range that is considered "room temperature" It's the fucking norm. nobody gives a shit.


[05-Jun-19 02:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah I know


[05-Jun-19 02:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was talking more about gay pride


[05-Jun-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
ideally we wouldn't have to do any of this because it's not egalitarian


[05-Jun-19 02:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
To me LGBT is just another normal person


[05-Jun-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
lettuce guac bacon tomato


[05-Jun-19 02:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yum


[05-Jun-19 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let's Go Butcher Tcapitalists

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[05-Jun-19 02:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But yeah ideally LGBT people should be treated just like any other person and sexuality shouldn't factor into much, so I guess it shouldn't really be a topic of "pride"


[05-Jun-19 02:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But as you said, byte


[05-Jun-19 02:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Shit ain't ideal


[05-Jun-19 02:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So why "pride"


[05-Jun-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
it's important that traditionally oppressed people are able to publicly establish an identity for themselves


[05-Jun-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
you may not think anti-LGBT discrimination is that serious anymore, but it still is a big deal in many places


[05-Jun-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
sometimes, life or death


[05-Jun-19 02:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Alright I suppose that's true


[05-Jun-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
even in the US


[05-Jun-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
probably much more so here than other developed nations, though I would say that the US is regressing into what it would otherwise have called third world decades ago


[05-Jun-19 02:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although when do we decide when "identity is established


[05-Jun-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
we don't


[05-Jun-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not for you to decide


[05-Jun-19 02:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess it's all part of "you have to be loud to be heard"


[05-Jun-19 02:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And what you said makes sense


[05-Jun-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
What anime is that from?


[05-Jun-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/nyregion/manafort-rikers-island-solitary-confinement.html

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Paul Manafort to Be Sent to Rikers, Where He Will be Held in Isolation
Mr. Manafort was indicted on state charges, which prosecutors brought to ensure he would go to prison if pardoned by President Trump. High-profile inmates are often held in protective custody.
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[05-Jun-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
why is manafort being sent to rikers


[05-Jun-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Dunno, but MURICA


[05-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
apparently all the conservative sites are going bananas about this, saying that manafort is being sent to one of the worst prisons in the US because of his connections with trump


[05-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
and I can't find anything that refutes this claim


[05-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
there's literally no reason to be sending him there


[05-Jun-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently he was caught with child porn multiple times, but i might be thinking of a different person


[05-Jun-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure how this justifies sending him to rikers, but there ya go...


[05-Jun-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[05-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
no


[05-Jun-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinkign of a different person?


[05-Jun-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i stand corrected, fair enough


[05-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
that was george nader


[05-Jun-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right


[05-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
he's been caught with child porn before too


[05-Jun-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/politics/george-nader-mueller-witness-child-pornography-charges/index.html so it was


[05-Jun-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i have no idea what state charges were brought upon manafort then


[05-Jun-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d6eecc09aec34dd99783a174f3d9b6dd

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Trump-GOP split: Senators loudly oppose Mexico tariff threat
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a rare confrontation, Republican senators declared deep opposition Tuesday to President Donald Trump's threatened tariffs on all goods coming into the U.S. from Mexico. But...
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[05-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Vaila#5808

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[05-Jun-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The tariffs are gettign so bad event he spineless republicans are forced to grow a spine against this shit


[05-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
cherrypicking extreme examples and photoshopping them all together in a badly-edited collage doesn't make a logical argument

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[05-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDyfJxC-xRs

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sabagebu! shooting rampage at school
total massacre
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[05-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Vaila#5808

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[05-Jun-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
cool reactionary post bro


[05-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
seven HOURS


[05-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
SEVEN. HOURS.


[05-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The horror.


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm thinking we need a bot command for mediabiasfactcheck.com


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
She could've gotten thirsty.


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or is that too petty


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
>meanwhile, migrant in detention cell turns out to be dying of AIDS

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[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
petty and pointless


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Is it accurate at least


[05-Jun-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so far as I can tell yes


[05-Jun-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
insofar as it's a rating system with only a few possible alignments


[05-Jun-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so it's accurate, but not very precise


[05-Jun-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is my go-to first thing I check when someone links a source I'm not familiar with


[05-Jun-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Really? You didn't know about daily mail?


[05-Jun-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
UK's lowest quality news source™


[05-Jun-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I meant to say was I do that in general, not that I'm unfamiliar with the daily mail


[05-Jun-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
It's so bad that Wikipedia banned it as a reference source


[05-Jun-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I believe there are categories, but it it's similar to a spectrum


[05-Jun-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The Onion, btw, is listed as simply "satire" on MBFC


[05-Jun-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
makes sense lmao


[05-Jun-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[05-Jun-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this is "the hill"


[05-Jun-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just pulled up an example


[05-Jun-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's got 7 broad categories but it's a spectrum


[05-Jun-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If anyone can find one more neutral than this, let me know https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/

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Associated Press - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. Overall, we ra...
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[05-Jun-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
snopes is probably more neutral


[05-Jun-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
likewise politico


[05-Jun-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[05-Jun-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and politifact


[05-Jun-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/us/parkland-scot-peterson-charges/index.html

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Scot Peterson, school resource officer criticized for his response...
Former Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson -- who was criticized for how he responded when a gunman opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School -- has been charged with 11 counts, including felony child neglect charges, authorities said.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180604110725-scot-peterson-parkland-officer-nbc-interview-super-tease.jpg


[05-Jun-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Snopes and politifact are specifically fact-checking organizations, though, they don't typically break stories


[05-Jun-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what about politico


[05-Jun-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That one's pretty darn neutral, yeah


[05-Jun-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.stlmag.com/news/seattle-st-louis-armed-robbery-police-west/

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In Seattle, Man Fends Off Armed Robber By Telling Him: “I’m Fr...
“If you decide to do this, we’re going to go heads up,” the St. Louis man told the robber holding him up at gunpoint.
https://www.stlmag.com/downloads/232227/download/seattlebus_flickr.jpg?cb=f6161dab46608a62056ad630c45e66a8&w=1200


[05-Jun-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"West stated that he is from St. Louis and was not going to be robbed. The suspect was unable to say anything to West because West confronted him first. West said, “So what are you going to do with that big ass pistol? If you wanna rob me I ain’t got nothing. If you decide to do this we’re gunna go heads up!”


[05-Jun-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"After West’s verbal beatdown, the gunman put his weapon back into a paper bag, followed West for a block and then walked off in a different direction."


[05-Jun-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/05/15/22220437/police-reports-illustrated-followed-off-the-bus-by-a-suspicious-man


[05-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Vaila#5808
To be arrested for calling someone a man in general is just fucking retarded.


[05-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is a man?


[05-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Vaila#5808
👨


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
XY chromosomes, I suppose? Although F to M complicates that a little


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Vaila#5808
COCK AND BALLS


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Vaila#5808
XD


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A miserable little pile of secrets


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But enough talk


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have at you


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[05-Jun-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the UK


[05-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They sent the police to talk to a kid's parents because he looked up UKIP one time


[05-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The story isn't that they're SJUWs, it's that the UK gov't seems to not believe in not going after every single possible problem.


[05-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Vaila#5808
👌

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[05-Jun-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh good, I wondered what I was missing by not visiting T_D


[05-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Vaila#5808
Canada has a similar law known as Bill C-16, going to prison if you misgender a transgender.


[05-Jun-19 04:28 AM] Vaila#5808
Pretty gay if you ask me, but you do you.


[05-Jun-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh


[05-Jun-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did you even read the C-16 bill


[05-Jun-19 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Doing just the tiniest bit of research on that makes it pretty clear what the context is


[05-Jun-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not even a law, it's just a motion condemning transphobia


[05-Jun-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as part of determining if something is a hate crime


[05-Jun-19 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nowhere is "imprisoning people for misgendering" mentioned in it


[05-Jun-19 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Although misgendering someone intentionally out of spite is indeed quite petty


[05-Jun-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically, before, intentionally calling someone the wrong gender wasn't part of what could be submitted as evidence. Now, it is


[05-Jun-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(as well as workplace discrimination along the same lines)


[05-Jun-19 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, iirc, the focus of C-16 was workplace discrimination


[05-Jun-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this bill is *not* meant to summon police if you accidentally call someone by the wrong pronoun in line behind them in Starbucks


[05-Jun-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but if you keep doing it, then maybe


[05-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Vaila#5808
Are you guys unironically defending this?


[05-Jun-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Uh, yeah, because I'm reading it


[05-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Vaila#5808
Uh, ew?


[05-Jun-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I'm not seeing anything close to what you're saying


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Vaila#5808
Hate crimes are stupid.


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Vaila#5808
No different to hate speech.


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, if you're so petty as to refuse using something so simple as a polite pronoun towards a transgender person, get lost


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do I think there's the potential for someone to try and abuse this to play victim? Of course. Do I think it'll stand up in court? Probably not


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Vaila#5808
Ok liberal.


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>me
>liberal


[05-Jun-19 04:35 AM] Vaila#5808
You kinda are.


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If badger's a liberal, I hate to ask what that makes you


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🆗 🆒


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Am I missing something here or does this just add LGBT+ to protections


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you are missing nothing


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Section 318 makes it a criminal offence to advocate or promote genocide against members of an identifiable group, which now includes gender identity or gender expression. Since the definition of "identifiable group" is also used in section 319 of the Code, the amendment also makes it a criminal offence to incite or promote hatred because of gender identity or gender expression."


[05-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Vaila#5808
https://youtu.be/SiijS_9hPkM

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CBC News
https://youtu.be/SiijS_9hPkM
Heated debate on gender pronouns and free speech in Toronto
University of Toronto professors Jordan Peterson and A.W. Peet discuss the use of alternate pronouns on campus for those who say words like 'he, she, him or ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SiijS_9hPkM/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So if you say "him" instead of "her" you're not going into jail


[05-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But if you say "all trans people should be put in camps" then there's an issue


[05-Jun-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or if you say "him" instead of "her" for a month straight


[05-Jun-19 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That, or intentionally using misgendered pronouns to mentally abuse a transgender person under your custody


[05-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As their employer or something?


[05-Jun-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the primary focus yeah


[05-Jun-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but there are amendments to a couple other things to make this apply to other areas where hate crime's investigated


[05-Jun-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so vandalizing someone's car with the mars symbol would go from an act of vandalism up to hate crime


[05-Jun-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which, again, is a broad category of things, it's not like you immediately get put in solitary for failing to say "xe"


[05-Jun-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr there is as much drama going on here as there is in the war on christmas


[05-Jun-19 04:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Relevant
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/585126611137986562/dfv2xt21n2231.png

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[05-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Vaila#5808
Ah ok so that makes me the "old white person."


[05-Jun-19 04:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[05-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Vaila#5808
Cute


[05-Jun-19 04:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Go back to watching TV grandpa smh


[05-Jun-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, do you have a problem with this?


[05-Jun-19 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or post hog


[05-Jun-19 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd also be great


[05-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Vaila#5808
You've been salty to me before Badger in the memes channel, idk what's your problem. Just stop acting like a cuck.


[05-Jun-19 04:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Problem is, all you post are dumb baby boomer Ben Shapiro memes, for fuck's sake, i just wanna see pictures of your succulent hog


[05-Jun-19 04:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post them already


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/
Reuters - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least ...
https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/default-thumb.jpg?fit=600%2C326&ssl=1


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Vaila#5808
You're either baiting or genuinely this much of a loser, either way, it's both retarded.


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hmm, looks like the same graphic they used for politico


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
that one's even closer to least biased than AP


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
nope


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's slightly more centered


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
if you overlay them


[05-Jun-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
_tabs back and forth_


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hmm, yeah


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
there was one I found that was perfectly centered, but I forget which one it was


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
also, you're dead wrong about badger being a liberal lmao


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Vaila i'm not a loser, i'm just a boi thirsty to see pictures of your hog


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post hog


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
liberalism is center to center-right


[05-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
you might be looking for "leftism"


[05-Jun-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
come to the left. we have conservatives


[05-Jun-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
come to the left, I packed us some fudge


[05-Jun-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Conservatives. Waiting. At ram ranch.


[05-Jun-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but no actually I was referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

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Blue Dog Coalition
The Blue Dog Coalition, commonly known as the Blue Dogs or Blue Dog Democrats, is a caucus of United States Congressional Representatives from the Democratic Party who identify as fiscally-responsible, centrist Democrats. The caucus professes a pragmatic approach to governanc...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Logo_Blue_Dog_Coalition.png


[05-Jun-19 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bby left the convo without posting any hog ;_;


[05-Jun-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was probably less a hog and more of a piglet anyway


[05-Jun-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Time for a personal opinion, spoilered for the thin-skinned: ||If everyone in the republican party vanished overnight and got replaced by blue dogs as the conservative party, that'd be just fine by me||


[05-Jun-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
||I agree||


[05-Jun-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
||I think conservatism has a necessary place in US politics but the overton window has fallen right out of its frame it's been shoved so far to the right||


[05-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Vaila#5808
https://youtu.be/Xz-8nIzZbX4

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James Allsup
https://youtu.be/Xz-8nIzZbX4
Calling 911 On Black People Is ILLEGAL
Get on PocketNet and free yourself from the censored web- get 5 free PocketCoin with my link! https://tinyurl.com/y6njm6n6 Report a crime, get a $500 fine Th...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xz-8nIzZbX4/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well


[05-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you call 911 because someone is blakk


[05-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
when you wouldn't if they were white


[05-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
maybe you're a fukking racist, and the actual problem.


[05-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, we liv in a society where a blakk guy on his own lawn pikking up trash gets hekkled by a police officer even after showing his ID


[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And where a woman will report blakk people for having a barbecue


[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Vaila#5808
Virginia beach shooter was black, but oh wait, that doesn't fit the narrative does it? No wonder that report has been quiet.


[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does that matter?


[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Vaila#5808
They dont want to be racist.


[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
How does a shooter being blakk make it suddenly okay to call the police on people doing nothing out of the ordinary?

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[05-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is people reporting blakk people for things they would never report whites for.


[05-Jun-19 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man are conservatives even able to use any argument other than "no u"

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[05-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's pretty clear prejudice going on and it isn't okay to prejudice just because sometimes the prejudice turns out to be correct in its racist suspicions.


[05-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not, in the end.


[05-Jun-19 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And badly construed no-u's at that

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[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they fundamentally believe that liberals don't believe the things liberals believe.


[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And on the flipside, not reporting white people for things that would otherwise be considered a crime


[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe that equality is a scam


[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally


[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe that racism is an unstoppable inherent force of nature


[05-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea that people could actually believe in anything resembling equality is generally foreign to them


[05-Jun-19 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or at least, the republican party certainly does, to pre-empt any "no true scotsman" arguments


[05-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so when confronted with liberals who believe things, they simply say that liberals aren't genuine and are just trying to paint things to put white people down.


[05-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because from the conservative perspective, every problem is just people being in the wrong part of the social ladder


[05-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and liberals are a problem because they disagree with nature's social ladder and want to cheat to put people who don't deserve better on top.


[05-Jun-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've read what the heritage foundation put out in their mandate for the 2016 presidential candidate


[05-Jun-19 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, i've seen the "anti-racist is code for anti-white" fallacies before, conservatives are fundamentally opposed to directly searching on what the opponent's theory is like


[05-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that the way things are could actually be a problem is seen as a threat to their very foundational beliefs.


[05-Jun-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It read like a to-do list for becoming a villain in Fern Gully, and then they praised trump for achieving over 60% of it in his first year in office


[05-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the entire point of being conservative is to fear change and what isn't your own.


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you accept that the current state of things isn't good


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you are accepting that change is required


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, conservatism and right-wing ideology is, in the end, just a circumstancial amalgam of practices designed to justify the perpetuation of the dominant class


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you are thus accepting your own demise.


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, it's reactionary


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the whole point of it is to fight tooth and nail to not lose what has been amassed.


[05-Jun-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And regressive when those things are lost


[05-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
One day conservatives realized they couldn't just call the police to beat up innocent blakk people


[05-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now they're flipping shit about it


[05-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they will never admit that's what it's about


[05-Jun-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they always will exaggerate to make it such that blakk people really are dangerous and that stopping people from calling 911 as a cudgel against races they don't like is letting the shooters win or something.


[05-Jun-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
our friend has been awfully quiet. Did he leave?


[05-Jun-19 05:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Vaila you haven't posted hog yet


[05-Jun-19 05:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please :sad:


[05-Jun-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or am I going to jail for assuming his gender :ponythinking:


[05-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
My bet would be on him amassing statements to prove we're a liberal hivemind that's just delusional and can't see THE TRUTH to some other group full of people who are vaguely conservative and may not agree on specifics, but will somewhat believe that the idea of punishing people for calling 911 on innocent blakk people doing nothing suspicious is horrid.


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or just looking for some random youtube clip of an opinion segment, same thing


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before btw


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Tim Pool :pudding:


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
one common thing with conservative arguments about this kind of thing is that the actual law is ignored when convenient


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people will say it's about enforcing the law one moment


[05-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then a law passes like hate crimes


[05-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
or a legal defense is allowed that undermines a racist practice


[05-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and suddenly the law is dropped as a thing to support, and is viciously attakked


[05-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law is seen as absolutely sacred...right up until it decides that, actually, it's not okay to file false police reports against blakk people who are guilty only of doing activities outside.


[05-Jun-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's usually when I see the "don't use the law as the basis for your morality" quote pop up


[05-Jun-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law must be upheld TO THE FULLEST...until it decides that polluting is a crime.


[05-Jun-19 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then it's a scary hippie conspiracy


[05-Jun-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law and order must be MAINTAINED...until it decides that people actually deserve asylum instead of tear gas.


[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why a lot of common conservative arguments are pretty blatantly fascist


[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being scared of hippies, trans people, and poor Mexican mothers who lost their husbands to cartel crime


[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if the law matters #1, but racism matters #0...that's the essence of fascism.


[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Imagine being scared of being a minority yourself


[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Vaila#5808

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[05-Jun-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...is this your compelling counterargument?


[05-Jun-19 05:12 AM] Vaila#5808
No


[05-Jun-19 05:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nice strawman


[05-Jun-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
could've fooled me


[05-Jun-19 05:12 AM] Vaila#5808
This troll desperately wants to be fed.


[05-Jun-19 05:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, one group is trying to survive amidst a hostile and socially conservative climate while the other is advocating for exterminating the former group


[05-Jun-19 05:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which of them would you defend?


[05-Jun-19 05:13 AM] Vaila#5808
Depends on how you define said group and climate.


[05-Jun-19 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really doesn't


[05-Jun-19 05:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Transgender people against nazis/christian republicans, then.


[05-Jun-19 05:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which do you defend?


[05-Jun-19 05:14 AM] Vaila#5808
First off, I'm not fucking white, so let's get that shit out of the picture. K? K.

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[05-Jun-19 05:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The color of your skin doesn't matter to us


[05-Jun-19 05:15 AM] Vaila#5808
Secondly, stop this lowkey shitposting and try to polish up your points.


[05-Jun-19 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Please answer the question


[05-Jun-19 05:15 AM] Vaila#5808
Really though? Color of skin doesn't matter? That's funny.


[05-Jun-19 05:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In this occasion, it does not


[05-Jun-19 05:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Minorities can be brainwashed too


[05-Jun-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that mention of "btw im not white" was completely out of the blue


[05-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Vaila#5808
It does. Because calling the police over a *legitimate* crime but the person happens to be black, is now illegal?


[05-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: conservatives in the US are okay with being allied with countries like russia and saudi arabia because they're also super conservative


[05-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
and hate/kill gays etc


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Vaila no it isn't?


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's an overwhelming ammount of evidence proving the contrary statement


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, I'm not sure how you're reading race into a question about trans, nazis, christians, and republicans


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That blacks are illegitimately and excessively targeted by police


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that's another common way conservatives exaggerate


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They take a case where you're acting against racism


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they make it out to be that you're acting against a required action


[05-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Vaila#5808
Oh yeah and thirdly, stop implying this is all conservative.


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
... but it is


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
when the actual actions at stake are ones that are the same action but in a context where it's done to oppress a minority group


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Vaila what is it, then?


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is your ideology?


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I point you back to my previous comment about "or at least, the republican party, if a no true scotsman fallacy is applied"


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially the idea is to strip away all context


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Vaila#5808
Guess I could say the same about you being liberals if you wanna call me a conservative now.


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Vaila#5808
Or leftist.


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that actions that could be legitimate in one context and used to harass in another


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
Lemme guess


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
are either all illegal or all legal


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
You're "centrist"


[05-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a false dichotomy


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to make you side with all legal


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
religious conservatives have repressed homosexuality for over a thousand years


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that you oppose taking action against racist actions.


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially it's a way to trikk people into helping oppress minorities.


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
By making them oppose any and all limitations on actions.


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that the gov't doesn't step in and stop things


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus the racists can be racist unimpeded.


[05-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very large strategy.


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's like that dude who came in here like 4 months ago screaming about how being mocked for his ridiculous fascist sentiments was the same as the nazis gassing the jews


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
ostracization is not the same as extermination


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans recently talked about "top-down discrimination" referencing how the gov't would impede the ability of christian bigots to discriminate against gays and such.


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey if he's still someone who considers himself a centrist or "classical liberal" even after, say, Carl Benjamin has showed his even truer colors, i'll facepalm irl


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] Mikey#7286
:buizel:


[05-Jun-19 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I doubt he would self-identify as a centrist anyhow because that's the purgatory for bad little republicans who don't toe the party line :3


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
most of the people who call themselves "centrists" are usually conservative


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Vaila#5808
I personally find this to be child abuse.

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[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol you know what's funny


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you seriously saying


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
12 years old is old enough to diagnose gender dysphoria


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
that this law means that parents would forcibly reassign gender


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
People who unironically call themselves "red pilled"


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Vaila#5808
You guys find this okay?


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
without the consent of the child?


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey did you know that starting HRT before puberty reduces the chances of mental illness developing


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does paying for it with taxes mean that the child's wishes are disallowed?


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Mikey#7286
And people say liberals are "woke"


[05-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are unrelated things


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"California passes law allowing tax payed treatments for transgender kids"


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Absolutely good tbf


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your actual argument here?


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Mikey#7286
Does it force them to do that?


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause to me it sounds like you're arguing in a world that ain't this one.


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
he won't say what is argument is


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not.


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being reactionary isn't about having a consistent worldview.


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
because he probably realizes how ridiculous it sounds, even in his head


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about fighting the liberal disease.


[05-Jun-19 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then I will: HRT is child abuse


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using any means necessary.


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the only possible conclusion


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
One common thread with the Republican party is they don't support one actual goal on anything


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just look at healthcare


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obamacare was THEIR PLAN


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats co-opted it entirely


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
HRT?


[05-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Mikey#7286
If they aren't being forced into transgenderism and are willing to be comfortable with it then what's the issue


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now Republicans are fighting every single aspect of it.


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hormone reassignment therapy


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the liberals absorbed it.


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And their replacement plans change in the wind.


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@WingbeatPony iirc, the medical consensus is that early transitioning is better


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
I'm only picking up "hormonal replacement therapy"


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
that's right


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
and it's specifying for post menopausal women


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I literally said that before putting words in Alien's mouth


[05-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
12 year olds are smarter than many people giv them credit for, I'd buy it as the start of when it's okay for someone to decide to get gender reassignment stuff


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Vaila#5808
The issue is they haven't even started puberty, how would they know they're "transgender" if they have not experienced being their own sex at it's whole.


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
words I would not have had to put if he had backed up his hot take


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course that opens up the whole age of consent can of worms.


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
what


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
puberty for boys starts at 12


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, all of the scientific evidence points towards not allowing gender reassignment when it is diagnosed would be much more abusive than allowing it


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
for girls it starts at like 10


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
What nebbie said


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they havn't started puberty by 12 they're actually statistically very late to the process


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Vaila#5808
But does not finish up until about the twenties.


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Followup question: do you think it is necessary to experience sex to "wholly" experience being their own gender?


[05-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
also if you wait until AFTER puberty it's harder to transition


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Children generally have made up their mind about their gender identities by six


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I'd say leaving that out paints a pretty incomplete picture


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's much harder to transition after puberty


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
why do they need to experience their birth sex?


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Vaila#5808
Plus the brain is still developing at that age.


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
People transition in their early adulthood and no one cares than


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
it requires hormonal treatment for basically the rest of your life


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if they don't want to experience their birth sex?


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Well except conservatives


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
if you start before puberty, it's much easier


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The brain is still developing until 2-fukking-5


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we, you know


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
let people drive at 16


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk at 16


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
smoke at 21


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Mikey#7286
Drink at 21


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
okay, that doesn't work when just using the numbers lol


[05-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
it reads like "two fucking five"


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Be president at 35 for some reason


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
instead of "twenty fucking five"


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or are you suggesting that we should do away with HRT entirely, since doing so post-puberty has been shown to cause more mental distress, and therefore would violate the hippocratic oath


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
you basically needed to be 35 to get the equivalent of a bachelor's today


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
which was why they made it so old


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
I know several trans people who are around 18-23


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
there's people starting multibillion dollar companies at 19 nowadays


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Considering early HRT to be child abuse is incredibly counter to medical evidence, which says that the earlier you start the better the outcomes are


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately


[05-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the obvious apparent intent here


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to force people to grow up all the way to 25 with their birth sex


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that it's too late for them to change their minds


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that they're too used to it


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(or their bodies)


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
His argument is blatantly against letting people make the decision at all.


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Have you seen what people who start HRT early look like?


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who go to 25 without something generally go their lives without it.


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Starting late would basically doom them to looking like they're in drag


[05-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, you can make it 18 instead, but then "the brain is still developing"


[05-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so the argument doesn't make sense.


[05-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The clear intent here is to prevent trans people from existing in large numbers.


[05-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to prevent child abuse.


[05-Jun-19 05:32 AM] Zen#4827
Preventing mental instability is paramount , people under the adult age should have adequate room  to experiment with self identity. allowing biological changes with permanency would be a mistake.


[05-Jun-19 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
In regard to the earlier shitposts: I would wager that most people who are afraid of transgender people trampling their rights have probably never met any sizeable amount of transgender individuals, the vast majority of which are incredibly timid and generally so terrified of not being understood that the act of being misgendered is often a sort of  mental block which makes them want to hide in their shells, not lash out like it so frequently seems to be portrayed


[05-Jun-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"preventing mental instability"


[05-Jun-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans people aren't mentally unstable because of the therapy, provided the hormones work correctly


[05-Jun-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're mentally unstable because people treat them like mistakes.


[05-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Zen#4827
ah not what i am saying at all, I mean in regards to self identiy


[05-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans people's self identity isn't made unstable by changing their sex.


[05-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It improves after getting the surgery.


[05-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
the idea that someone at the age of 12 doesn't have a self identity is ludicrous, from personal experience, I knew who I was by the age of 8


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
People at 12 know what sex they wanna be.


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Zen#4827
People change their minds bewteen adolescence and adulthood


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Children are largely aware of their gender identities by six


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
people who have never had to struggle with their self identity will never be able to truly understand what it's like not feeling right in your own body


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't change their minds on something so fundamental.


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Zen#4827
should we allow alchohol and psychotropics to be sold to minors?


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah they generally don't on sex


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes, we should


[05-Jun-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
But that's a different story


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Limitations on ages to sell drugs and alcohol are for entirely different reasons.


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're done because younger people take more risks and can seriously damage their bodies.


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
there's gender fluid of course, but you can't do much to help with that until we have godlike genetic manipulation techniques


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting a sex change is not comparable to alcohol poisoning.


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also I'm not sure you can get addicted to estrogen the same way you can get addicted to nicotine


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Zen#4827
Call this ignorance legit confused. How are hormones not psychotropic dugs?


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nicotine is insane.


[05-Jun-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's arguing they aren't drugs.


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Hormones are drugs...


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
afaik they aren't addictive


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they're not highly addictive and you aren't going to overdose on them.


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
there's people addicted to adrenaline though


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The difference is that they're not xenobiotics


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
That is, your body is naturally able to metabolize it without the CYP3A4 mechanism


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
can you overdose on adrenaline?


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
I know it's very much not good for your body in large amounts


[05-Jun-19 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's happening now is that i'm overdosing on curiosity as to where @Vaila has gone and why he hasn't posted hog yet


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
His hog ran away


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
perhaps he's lost it


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
He's gone ham


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, not ham!


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
he's hogging his hog


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[05-Jun-19 05:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sad fap


[05-Jun-19 05:39 AM] Vaila#5808
Child


[05-Jun-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Jun-19 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh hey you're here!


[05-Jun-19 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
be *very careful* with the next word you type


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Vaila#5808
Or what? Report me to the police for hate speech?


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Zen#4827
ok, self experience here. when in younger years if someone wants a drug they will find it. However the argument I am curious about is should it be emphasized that adequate time should be put into a life changing decision. Not a strong example but I like to want a tattoo for at least a year before getting one


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
woosh


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude nobody is gonna sneak around to get hormones to get high


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please post hog now it's been so many hours without my random stranger hog pics :sad:


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how hormones work


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Zen#4827
not get "high"


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Zen#4827
no no no


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Torr#5078
:GWaobloChildPepeHug:


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
when people want to transition, it's not a spur of the moment decision


[05-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's not to get high, what's the problem?


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Zen#4827
Its not a problem I have with it


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
for most, they've been thinking it over for _years_


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
If not their entire lives


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm thinking they might be referring to guys who take testosterone to become DOUBLE MEN


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, wanting to transition is the conclusion of a process going back years in time, conditioned by a series of factors


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Zen#4827
ok hold up


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Zen#4827
wait


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you've got two man cards, is harder to lose them.


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
fortunately and unfortunately T is not super bioavailable


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Zen#4827
If you are legit trans


[05-Jun-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to inject it if you want it


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Zen#4827
then the earlier the better


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
mmhmm


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Zen#4827
but what is WRONG with questioning the validity of a childs feelings on a subject?


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Agreed


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Zen#4827
they are a CHILD


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
With transitioning early that is


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Vaila#5808
Yeah I'm with Zen here.


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mainly the fact that gender identity is like the first thing the human brain forms


[05-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's evidence of it at 6 months of age


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine if you had someone questioning you constantly about how you felt about your skin color


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kinda stupid to question people's gender identity at 12


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
That'd be pretty fucking annoying


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Zen#4827
Ok skin color is not gender


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not like kids don't know what it is


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That shit's not gonna change much


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Kids aren't as dumb as you think they are


[05-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Zen#4827
you dont get to choose either but one is FAR more biologically effective


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Zen skin colour isn't exactly the same as gender, but the way society creates social control mechanisms around them does tend towards being remarkably similar


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Zen#4827
Fuck society


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the argument here?


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Zen#4827
lets give a shit about the individual


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does race hav to do with this?


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>the individual


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbf kids can be influenced


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I made an analogy


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can't


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The individual is not an island, and society is not an all-powerful force.


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not how society works for you if you're a minority


[05-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two work together.


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society gamers rise up
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[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even if the individual is emphasized sometimes, there's a lot of nuance to that phenomenon


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Zen#4827
you're not wrong luna


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what does racial identity hav to do with being able to change gender to match identity?


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, we can't exactly easily surgically change race


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Zen#4827
wut


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if we could, would it really matter?


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
That was my analogy Nebbie


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Not his


[05-Jun-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Please read more carefully


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm still confused about his side of things on this.


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It wasn't a racial segue


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i'm also confused as to why race was mentioned


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Must be an issue with comparative argumentation


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm confused what the stance is.


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It was a comparison to something you can understand very early on in childhood and doesn't change much with age


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Zen#4827
all im trying to say is that people who want a transition should have adequate support , and that should include mental therapy


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Zen#4827
everyone could use mental therapy


[05-Jun-19 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is race a gender? /s


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay well giv mental therapy to 12 year olds.


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Zen#4827
especially in the dopamine deprived world we live in


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like we already generally do.


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
>dopamine deprived


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also FIX THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Zucc would like a word with you


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
gfdi Obamacare is a conservative sham


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could use some mental therapy, but i canlt afford it


[05-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it absolutely sikkens me that conservatives now want to replace it with even thinner shams.


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Zen#4827
Dopamine deprived as in the activation of the receptors so constantly deadens them


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
obamacare was literally a republican plan that was slightly tweaked in inconsequential ways


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Emperor's clothes aren't just invisible, they're x-ray, you can see his bones.


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
they were only mad about it passing because obama was the one who passed it


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least it looks like he won't veto the disaster relief bill


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm careful to use the terms "GOP" or "republicans" here because I'm starting to wonder if conservative is the right word to use for them anymore


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh, I get what you mean, but that's not what the addiction process is


[05-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat: it is more than ever


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hav been filtering out of the Democratic and into the Republican party


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
over the last 30 or so years


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
In most cases it's much more to do with specific chemicals that are not dopamine


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It used to be that each party *wasn't* really more liberal or more conservative than the other


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Opiates are somewhat of an exception


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now Republicans are almost exclusively conservatives


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
souka.


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Depression is caused in part by a lack of seratonin. But the question we don't ask is why some - or most of us - are lacking seratonin.


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Democrats are split down the middle, just starting to be majority liberal


[05-Jun-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
MARK FISCHER GANG, ASSEMBLE


[05-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially without the threat of communism and with the South getting butthurt about civil rights


[05-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Zen#4827
gender dysphoria used to be classified as a mental disorder.... the government used to pay for trans operations as a result. this over sensitive attitude took that away from trans people. goddamn social crusaders using innocent people as shields disgusting.


[05-Jun-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
serotonin is poorly bioavailable and techniques for increasing it can lead to _severe_ side effects


[05-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's become about reactionaries who believe the real threat is liberalism.


[05-Jun-19 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Zen what


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Transgender people and the people who support them do agree that transitioning is best for their health


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
uh...it's still classified as a disorder to my knowledge


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
DSM V didn't change that, did it?


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean what Trump's gov't did


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the DSM didn't change


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you may be conflating it with something else


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's not because of sensitivity


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
The WHO reclassified it, not the DSM


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Zen#4827
ok reading up on it again sorry for the ignorance if im wrong


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah and the US gov't doesn't really care about the WHO


[05-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
the WHO said cell phones probably cause cancer, as well


[05-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can be a little dumb sometimes.


[05-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the science is really inconclusive on the matter)


[05-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Vaila#5808
No they are not dumb.


[05-Jun-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the sun causes far more cancer than my cell phone


[05-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Zen#4827
It's getting to the point where I am confused to the actual argument in the fist place. What are we disagreeing on?


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Vaila#5808
Cellphones especially the new high-end smartphones with 5G emit increased levels of microwave radiation.


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Microwave radiation is harmless


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Vaila#5808
Thus, can cause cancer.


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether it's child abuse to pay for kids changing sex


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Your wifi access point is beaming it through your skull right now


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, literally just existing causes cancer


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:shrugpony:


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Vaila#5808
Smart Meters do the same thing.


[05-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Zen#4827
thanks luna


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ionizing radiation can cause cancer randomly, pegatato


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Microwaves aren't ionizing


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
They have far too little energy


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the question is whether microwave wavelengths SOMEHOW do the same


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't seem to, but research is hard.


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was referring also to just y'know, imperfect replication machinery


[05-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Zen#4827
I dont think its abuse, like I said before the earlier the better . I just think that a transition should not happen too quickly, you cant take it back and there have been those that have suffered as a result


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and also the clusterfuck known as transposons


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile California finally decided that coffee doesn't pose a significant cancer risk


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Known to cancer to cause the state of california™


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Zen#4827
Idk if parents should get to decide


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Zen#4827
I think its up to the individual


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Zen#4827
they have to live with it


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should require serious consent from the child


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Vaila#5808
Microwave radiation is obviously not gamma radiation because if it was you'd be dead considering the most activity we now have with smartphones.


[05-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's absurd to immediately decide the child has no say without reading deep into what's actually being pushed


[05-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Zen#4827
ok so


[05-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Zen#4827
when


[05-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Zen#4827
when should a child get a say


[05-Jun-19 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
can I phone a libertarian


[05-Jun-19 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
:ponythinking:


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should always get a say but probably shouldn't be allowed until at least a certain age


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should never be done to them against their will.


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
microwave radiation is even lower in energy than visible light


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the WHO thinks it MIGHT cause cancer


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly, i think that'd depend on how mentally developed the child is at a certain point, because the way people's mental capacity grows is rarely uniform, iirc


[05-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
sun is dangerous, don't go outside


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
might as well ban color too


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Zen#4827
so case by case then?


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
The sun is a deadly laser


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That gets into difficulties, badger


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
light is dangerous, don't turn on your lights


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd require close contact with and observation of the child


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok byte wurtz


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
let humanity evolve in the darkness


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
same as with why age of consent at set ages may not be a great idea without SOME ways to get around on either side


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But nobody really likes having those


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
the sun is basically an omnidirectional laser lol


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
set ages feel more comfortable to people.


[05-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
so in practice you likely need a set age


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How to set that age, though?


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE SUN IS A DEADLY LAZER


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, they're certainly much easier than hemming and hawing with exceptions and considerations for every person


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTnzwvx4AO0

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the sun is a deadly lazer
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[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, 18 years is just an average on what people thought about puberty


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Zen#4827
ok well then why not [at set age] present the individual with a choice


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
18 years is way past puberty


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's still a lot of paperwork


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and AoC law isn't based on puberty


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's based on concepts of mental development


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
because most individuals don't need to make such a choice


[05-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
puberty is basically 12


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they set it to 18 probably so that a vast majority of people are sexually mature by then


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is why AoC originally was 12 when it started to become a thing


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
for the vast majority of people, their sex matches their gender identity


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if you set it to average age of puberty half of people at that age are prepubescent


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Zen#4827
just because they don


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in the 19th and 20th centuries it got pushed further and further


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
No that would be the median


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did not set it to 18 because of puberty


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Zen#4827
don't need to doesn't mean they shouldnt


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Not the average


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they set it to 18 because of concepts of mental development


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it is a normal distribution, right?


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and actually they set it to 16


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or maybe not


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I dunno


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
No it's bimodal


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
18 is some states


[05-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as for age of majority


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's 15 in France etc. lol


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
skewed in any way?


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
18 is a very US concept


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Zen#4827
give them a chance to specify gender


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
there are slightly more men than women


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
the age of consent is 16 in 31 states and 17 in 10 states


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
only 9 states have 18 as the age of consent


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Zen#4827
My life would be very different if someone had asked me early on


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
half of europe has the age of consent at 14


[05-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think anywhere has 12 anymore in Europe


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spain switched to 15 from 12 some years ago.


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
and 93% of it has the age of consent at 16 or lower (including the ones which have age of consent at 14)


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
there's one country in europe that has the age of consent at 18


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, the criteria are never consistent?


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
and like 3 with it at 17


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Correct


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some places have it so age oof consent only applies with people of your own age if you;re under 18


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
No consistent criteria are used in determining age of consent, age of majority, age of driving, etc.


[05-Jun-19 06:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
criteria can't be consistent because sexual maturity isn't consistent among people


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
every country just guesses based on shit


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
neither is "intellectual development"


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
in some Mexican states, age of consent is whenever you go thru puberty


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
not a set age


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I still think a case-by-case analysi of each person would be better, honestly, although i do agree that would be a logistical and bureaucratic hurdle


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
also, having sex is an important milestone of human development in the puberty years


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
case-by-case is difficult as hell to execute


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's better


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but much more of a hassle


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end all limits are hassles


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
so a lot of age of consent laws collide with the natural human need for sexual contact


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
People postpone sex far too much


[05-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's just the nature of gov't


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah but this is much more of a hassle than the "set age" system


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I could care less about sex tbh


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
even if more accurate


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
You know in general humans used to actually get laid at the relative age of sexual maturity


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can reduce the hassle by creating hassles for different people.


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and people aren't necessarily aggressively calling for change


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually they are, occasionally


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
always in the upward direction


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
basically, you don't want 14 year olds fucking 8 year olds, and you don't want 20 year olds fucking 14 year olds


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
like Spain moving it up


[05-Jun-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada did the same due to it being higher in the US and UK


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consistently, age of consent increases over time


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean in terms of calling for change to "case by case"


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but guess I wasn't completely accurate :shrugpony:


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's quite possible it'll be 18 in the entirety of the US by 2100


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the same in Europe thereafter


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would cause a severe population collapse, most likely


[05-Jun-19 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Implying it won't be the united states of china?


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the world could look extremly different by 2100


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
18 being the age of consent is actually retarded going by how sexless society is becoming, there's been a huge drop in the number of people having sex in their teenage years


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but in terms of human development


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if we're all still around in 2100


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the later you do things, the less they're a part of your life


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>not a scenario in which Albania unleashes its secret robot and floating pyramid army to conquer the entire known world and reclaim its dominion over humanity


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you wait until 18 to do something


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it likely won't be a major part of your life


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of the preliminary studies are also finding that not having sex in your teens is harmful for you


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
if that thing is sex


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you are not having kids.


[05-Jun-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the whole generation does the same


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are not having sufficient kids


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
which leads to depopulation over time


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow i haven't sticked my dick into some woman's pussy yet and i'm already 20


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could that be harmful towards me?


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe you're an ass man


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is barely maintaining growth because of immigration


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Zen#4827
lol


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
maybe not on a personal level, but on a societal level it's unsustainably bad, yes


[05-Jun-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much of Europe is faltering populationwise.


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Zen#4827
I guess its up to the population of Europe  to solve that problem then


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it doesn't feel too bad here, not like employers will ask me if i ever had sex with another person before


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I myself don't feel bad about it either


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
people should've spent less time yelling about immigrants


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and more time encouraging kids to fukk


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's on a case-by-case basis, but many people still want to have sex, even if they have no drive to actually go out and find sex


[05-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Zen#4827
lol


[05-Jun-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not about you personally, but sexually active people tend to consistently feel better about their lives and report happier experiences than sexually inactive people


[05-Jun-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, maybe this will result in some natural selection kikking in so that future generations tend to be really horny and not care about societal norms about age.


[05-Jun-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That could be a serious issue for society tho


[05-Jun-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
now, that said, the studies could be wrong because lol psychology


[05-Jun-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
as it'd be less stable.


[05-Jun-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but it doesn't seem super likely


[05-Jun-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
horny incels just means better bad dragon sales


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't mean horny incels


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean incels might die out


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Wingbeat has a cute ass


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and be replaced by horny teens


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
really horny teens


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the kind that fukk in closets at university


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause otherwise they don't hav kids.


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Hot


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a bad future that should be avoided.


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then NSP has to come and save the world from the dick elders


[05-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would most likely result in a lowering of IQ


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
reversing centuries of progress.


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] Zen#4827
on what basis


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's kinda happening right now though


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on the basis that fucking becomes mroe improtant than learning and development


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
What on what basis?


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] Zen#4827
thats why everyone needs to take responsibility.... who cares who


[05-Jun-19 06:12 AM] Zen#4827
's fault it is


[05-Jun-19 06:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also you end up with another baby boomer explosion on a much larger scale


[05-Jun-19 06:15 AM] Zen#4827
I dont think thats happening


[05-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Zen#4827
if anything people care less and less about sex nowdays


[05-Jun-19 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and that's a problem


[05-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Zen#4827
Is it?


[05-Jun-19 06:17 AM] Zen#4827
7.7 billion


[05-Jun-19 06:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m going to blow your mind


[05-Jun-19 06:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of that population is india, china ands parts of africa


[05-Jun-19 06:17 AM] Zen#4827
yeah


[05-Jun-19 06:18 AM] Zen#4827
so?


[05-Jun-19 06:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the pupolation of america: 327.2 million


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
So what? Amercia collapses due to a lack of white people?


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
lol


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
immegration


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
culture matters


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
not ethnicity


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
problem is the enlderly white hard asses are trying to mass ban immigration to sheild the richfrom criticism


[05-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Zen#4827
wont last


[05-Jun-19 06:20 AM] Zen#4827
not if white people are dying out lol


[05-Jun-19 06:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except there is no such thing as a "white race"?


[05-Jun-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
iirc someone actually did the calculations and found that it would take over a century for whites to become a "minority" in the US


[05-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
even at the current pace of sexlessness


[05-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Zen#4827
technology has assured that the numeric value of population no longer matters


[05-Jun-19 06:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if we slow down on sex, one of the main reasons for breeding is to keep up productive members of the species. so we'll eventually reach a  point where our elderly outnumber our young people andthen our system falls appart much liek japan;s is doing right now


[05-Jun-19 06:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, even with a lot of robotizarion and automatization of the workforce, Japan still suffers from an aging workforce


[05-Jun-19 06:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, it's safe to say that technology is still a ways behind fully replacing human workforce


[05-Jun-19 06:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they put so much pressure on their young folk, their young folk are too scared to act on a lot of things liek romance and fucking


[05-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Zen#4827
you think the renaissance be over?


[05-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Zen#4827
the mindfuckery I think is not even close to being over


[05-Jun-19 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are you even saying?


[05-Jun-19 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do not understand your metaphor


[05-Jun-19 06:25 AM] Zen#4827
The advent of technology since the  late 16th century  the renaissance


[05-Jun-19 06:25 AM] Zen#4827
Our understanding of the universe has been accelerating


[05-Jun-19 06:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy look at those retail bots that have no customers!


[05-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Macarou#9574
You're combining the renaissance, scientific revolution, and enlightenment, all into one there


[05-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
the rate of technological advancement has only increased since the renaissance


[05-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
it hasn't stopped increasing


[05-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Zen#4827
indeed crow


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Zen#4827
The roman empire saw a rise and fall of tech


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And...?


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i don't quite grasp the point of the argument rn


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
we're past the point that we can experience a fall in technology like that


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Zen#4827
agreed


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok but how does that help population decline?


[05-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Zen#4827
population for whom?


[05-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Zen#4827
there will be people


[05-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ballotpedia/

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[05-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
this is the most centered one


[05-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
I remember seeing it like 7 months ago, but couldn't remember what it was


[05-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Zen#4827
I think its over already, internet culture is overtaking other cultures as a kind of overtone


[05-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Zen#4827
not destroying cultures in place but supplementing them


[05-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Zen#4827
also unifying them


[05-Jun-19 06:33 AM] RYDE#8862
What are you guys talking about?


[05-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
idk what zen's talking about anymore lol


[05-Jun-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[05-Jun-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was commenting on population decline and then zen started talking about a technology paradise or something


[05-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Zen#4827
idk really.
I'm heading to bed, had a good time talking everyone. Its always good challenging my views and seeing how others view the world.


[05-Jun-19 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
enjoy the sleep


[05-Jun-19 06:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
gnight m8


[05-Jun-19 06:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/special-education-teacher-gives-student-autism-award-most-annoying-n1013631?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

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Special education teacher gives student with autism award for 'mos...
The school district in Indiana said an "apology was extended on behalf on the district to the family and disciplinary action was taken against personnel involved."
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[05-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Deleted User#0000
2 genders


[05-Jun-19 06:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jun-19 06:40 AM] RYDE#8862
I wonder what is like after global warming since we may enjoy the 20 years? Will  magical ponies of Equestria take over our planet?


[05-Jun-19 06:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[05-Jun-19 06:42 AM] RYDE#8862
If we hadn't stop global warming, I wonder if ponies from Equestria will take over our planet?


[05-Jun-19 06:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do not understand the correlation here


[05-Jun-19 06:54 AM] RYDE#8862
Heaven, do you watch life after humans?


[05-Jun-19 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the history channel series?


[05-Jun-19 12:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow how is not having sex in teens is harmful?


[05-Jun-19 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically that humans don't develop the habit of having sex


[05-Jun-19 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
the actual reasons are more complex than that, but that's what it boils down to


[05-Jun-19 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
basically all the stuff that you develop a habit of doing in your teens will follow you into adulthood


[05-Jun-19 12:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's been changing all the time if I recall myself


[05-Jun-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
no, the not having babies thing is something completely different


[05-Jun-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
most people (in the upwards of 80%) eventually want to have a child, they're just taught that it's impossible to successfully rear children unless you're older because their parents regret having children right out of high school


[05-Jun-19 12:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Plausible,  but double edged sword


[05-Jun-19 12:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Having children without proper career advancement is very hard.


[05-Jun-19 12:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
On other hand, having kids after 30s can be very regrettable.


[05-Jun-19 12:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The former is due to financial reasons,  while the latter is for genetic issues.


[05-Jun-19 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
the declining birth rates are because there's no pressure to pop out as many babies as possible to ensure their genes are passed on, it's a form of immortality, I forget what the exact term is


[05-Jun-19 12:58 PM] Crow#5457
where having offspring and your offspring has offspring, etc makes your genes functionally immortal


[05-Jun-19 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
of course, people don't have sex just to pass on their genes, but that's basically the reason why sex is what it is


[05-Jun-19 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
feels good, almost everyone wants to have it, a large majority of people want to eventually have kids, etc


[05-Jun-19 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like it's best for people to start having sex as early as possible (within their own age group of course, not some bullshit like a 14 year old having sex with a 30 year old), and the best time to have children is the mid 20's


[05-Jun-19 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
the main problem is that kids are controlled and monitored too much, so there's no time to have sex and fool around with their peers, it's wake up, take shower, eat breakfast, go to school, go to afterschool program(s), come home, sleep


[05-Jun-19 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
(come home includes stuff like hobbies, video games, etc)


[05-Jun-19 01:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But still, it does not answer, why teens have to have sex?


[05-Jun-19 01:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Monitoring is a new thing... back then (pre 90s), it was way safer than right now.


[05-Jun-19 01:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It also depends on parents' stance on early sex and social norms.


[05-Jun-19 01:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ranging from "ok, just remember to use protection" to "only after marriage"


[05-Jun-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then theres the recent attempt to super enforce abstinance as a concept instead of having sex ed


[05-Jun-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7f74edf0b54f4b41b256d2d24a659ca3

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SEATTLE (AP) — If a billionaire's approach to philanthropy is a reflection of himself, Charles Koch's latest initiative tackling poverty embodies both the wealthy industrialist's business acumen...
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[05-Jun-19 02:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or other way around...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ewn.co.za/2019/05/14/basic-education-dept-defends-teaching-of-sex-ed-to-grade-4-pupils/amp

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Basic Education Dept defends teaching of sex ed to grade 4 pupils
According to the department, the new Life Orientation curriculum would be targeted at grade 4 to 12 pupils and would cover a variety of subjects ranging from healthy lifestyles to sex education.
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[05-Jun-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article228532414.html

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‘Too much, too soon.’ Families rally at Capitol against sex ed...
More than 200 protesters rallied outside of the state capitol Thursday to protest the push for comprehensive sex education and lessons on gender fluidity in California public schools.
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[05-Jun-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://laschoolreport.com/just-24-states-mandate-sex-education-for-k-12-students-and-only-9-require-any-discussion-of-consent-see-how-california-compares/

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Just 24 states mandate sex education for K-12 students, and only 9...
Sex education is getting more attention in the wake of the #MeToo movement, particularly the need to teach students about consent. What students learn about sex and sexuality during school varies widely from state to state and even from classroom to classroom. But this spring...
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[05-Jun-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a very back and forth fight right now


[05-Jun-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one side is trying to enforce abstinance, while the other side is just trying to make sure their kids are at least being safe in their sexual explorations...


[05-Jun-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this fight also extends to other parts of education via religion vs. science


[05-Jun-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Traditional religion is also trying to force it;s foothold into the clliff's edge using as many forceful tactics as possible to keep some semblance of power over communities


[05-Jun-19 02:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I got a skeevy in hindsight lesson in school over it during it that basically boiled down to "don't even be alone with a drunk girl or they will accuse you of something"


[05-Jun-19 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
abstinence doesn't stop the sex


[05-Jun-19 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
it just causes more unwanted/unplanned pregnancies


[05-Jun-19 04:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/texas-district-fires-teacher-who-tried-report-undocumented-students-trump-n1013891

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Texas district votes to fire teacher who tried to report undocumen...
The Fort Worth teacher said she was unaware the tweets were public and thought she was sending direct messages to the president.
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[05-Jun-19 04:55 PM] Crow#5457
that's a massive violation of confidentiality


[05-Jun-19 04:55 PM] Crow#5457
like, I'm pretty sure there's multiple state and federal laws against that


[05-Jun-19 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.apnews.com/103dc01ce19e48fd89cd32e083ca1e50

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Russia demands Tinder give user data to secret services
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia is requiring dating app Tinder to hand over data on its users — including messages — to the national intelligence agencies, part of the country's widening crackdown on...
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[05-Jun-19 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/4/18653088/youtube-steven-crowder-carlos-maza-harassment-bullying-enforcement-verdict

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YouTube decides that homophobic harassment does not violate its po...
The company sides with edgy commentator Steven Crowder
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[05-Jun-19 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
rainbow flag logo yaaaaaaay


[05-Jun-19 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Steven Crowder is a dumbass


[05-Jun-19 06:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Also YouTube doesn't care about anyone


[05-Jun-19 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
indeed, but he knows how to game the algorithm


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
When the time is right they'll do the same to the other side


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
They only care about what gets them money


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
honestly, after this that Crowder has done, i'll be disappointed if there is anything more than a handful of loons who claim to be LGBT+ people supporting Trumpist policies


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Crowder is a climate denier


[05-Jun-19 06:51 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[05-Jun-19 06:52 PM] Mikey#7286
Even though he denies it


[05-Jun-19 06:52 PM] Mikey#7286
I watched hbomberguy's video on it, good stuff


[05-Jun-19 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
people like Crowder just have nothing to contribute to "the public debate" or whatever the fuck it is


[05-Jun-19 06:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Yeah


[05-Jun-19 06:53 PM] Mikey#7286
He just wants to sell to a crowd who already know what they're looking for


[05-Jun-19 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they could be completely deplatformed and just disappear from the public eye and i'd honestly say that'd be a plus for society


[05-Jun-19 06:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Agreed


[05-Jun-19 06:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Same with Ben Shapiro


[05-Jun-19 06:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Who can argue with fresh college graduates that don't know better but gets owned when he argues with people that actually know what they're talking about


[05-Jun-19 07:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://shituationist.tumblr.com/post/185360661056/antoine-roquentin-il-lupo-della-steppa

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Liebe, Wissen, Arbeit
Conservatism in America is an expression of blood lust
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[05-Jun-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141
```americans be like ‘thank you mr. soldier for killing civilians’```


[05-Jun-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-Jun-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141
```it’s the general attitude by americans towards anyone subaltern```


[05-Jun-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-Jun-19 07:13 PM] ononim#8141
```similarly, the response to the killing of 4 students at kent state, from rick perlstein’s nixonland:```


[05-Jun-19 07:13 PM] ononim#8141
```A respected lawyer told an Akron paper, “Frankly, if I’d been faced with the same situation and had a submachine gun…there probably would have been 140 of them dead.” People expressed disappointment that the rabblerousing professors—the gurus—had escaped: “The only mistake they made was not to shoot all the students and then start in on the faculty.”

When it was established that none of the four victims were guardsmen, citizens greeted each other by flashing four fingers in the air (“The score is four / And next time more”). The Kent paper printed pages of letters for weeks, a community purgation: “Hurray! I shout for God and Country, recourse to justice under law, fifes, drums, marshal music, parades, ice cream cones—America—support it or leave it.” “Why do they allow these so-called educated punks, who apparently know only how to spell four-lettered words, to run loose on our campuses tearing down and destroying that which good men spent years building up?…Signed by one who was taught that ‘to educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.’” “I extend appreciation and whole-hearted support of the Guard of every state for their fine efforts in protecting citizens like me and our property.” “When is the long-suffering silent majority going to rise up?”```


[05-Jun-19 07:13 PM] ononim#8141
```It was the advance guard of a national mood. A Gallup poll found 58 percent blamed the Kent students for their own deaths. Only 11 percent blamed the National Guard.

A rumor spread in Kent that Jeff Miller, whose head was blown off, was such a dirty hippie that they had to keep the ambulance door open on the way to the hospital for the smell. Another rumor was that five hundred Black Panthers were on their way from elsewhere in Ohio to lead a real riot; and that Allison Krause was “the campus whore” and found with hand grenades on her.

Many recalled the State of Ohio’s original intention for the land upon which Kent State was built: a lunatic asylum. President White was flooded with letters saying it was his fault for letting Jerry Rubin speak on campus. Students started talking about the “Easy Rider syndrome,” after the Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda movie about hippies murdered by vigilantes. Townspeople picketed memorial services. “The Kent State Four!” they chanted. “Should have studied more!”```


[05-Jun-19 07:14 PM] ononim#8141
```“Anyone who appears on the streets of a city like Kent with long hair, dirty clothes, or barefooted deserves to be shot,” a Kent resident told a researcher.

“Have I your permission to quote that?”

“You sure do. It would have been better if the Guard had shot the whole lot of them that morning.”

“But you had three sons there.”

“If they didn’t do what the Guards told them, they should have been mowed down.”

A letter to Life later that summer read, “It was a valuable object lesson to homegrown advocates of anarchy and revolution, regardless of age.”```


[05-Jun-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Vox writer could just pull a Musk


[05-Jun-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol so there's a straight pride parade in Boston


[05-Jun-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look at our normalcy! LOOK AT IT!"


[05-Jun-19 08:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AJFGJzp4zSMS4Gj3EOrgggg

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Why Trump calling out AT&T and CNN proves that being petty is his ...
President Donald Trump must have spent his overnight flight to the United Kingdom on Monday brooding over unfavorable coverage of his administration on CNN because as soon as he landed, he fired off a screed aimed at the network's parent company,…
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[05-Jun-19 08:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Wait what??


[05-Jun-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his feeling got hurt and he's mad at CNN for covering the london protests of him


[05-Jun-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his poor widdle feelings


[05-Jun-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/06/usa-japan-austria-rebut-u-ns-proposal-to-ban-certain-anime-comics-manga/85554/

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USA, Japan, Austria Rebut United Nation's Proposal To Ban Anime
The United Nation's Committee on the Right of the Child proposal for the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child draft from February, 20
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[05-Jun-19 09:02 PM] ISamusI#5581
Wha


[05-Jun-19 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
is this fucking trumpfied all might


[05-Jun-19 09:02 PM] ISamusI#5581
What is this even implying? What does Child Rights and Anime have to do with one another?


[05-Jun-19 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
I blame Trump for this


[05-Jun-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the UN is trying to censor anime and manga and stuff globally, and japan is not happy with this considering it;s their industry on the line


[05-Jun-19 09:05 PM] illumnious#7938
You mean *on the line*


[05-Jun-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes thank you for pointing out a typo


[05-Jun-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that furthers the conversation amazingly well


[05-Jun-19 09:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump thinks Ireland wants a wall between the north and south. :faceclaw: 

“I think it will all work out very well, and also for you with your wall, your border,” he said at a joint press conference. “I mean, we have a border situation in the United States, and you have one over here. But I hear it’s going to work out very well here.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/05/ireland-visit-donald-trump-arrives-leo-varadkar-discussions

I think the DUP may want a wall though they will not just come out and say it.

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Trump likens Irish border to wall between US and Mexico
Leo Varadkar tells US president Ireland wishes to avoid border or wall after Brexit
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[05-Jun-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/113261844/pfizer-chose-not-to-share-information-about-drug-with-potential-to-prevent-alzheimers

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Pfizer chose not to share information about drug with the potentia...
A powerful anti-inflammatory drug, appeared to reduce the risk of Alzheimer's disease, Pfizer chose not to do a clinical trial or make the data public.
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[05-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
pfizer needs to BURN


[05-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They chose to not share information


[05-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
on a drug that cuts alzheimer's risk by TWO THIRDS


[05-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This shouldn't be fukking legal.


[05-Jun-19 10:05 PM] ononim#8141
I would fix that for you but I feel like I probably shouldn't shove my power level at people's faces


[05-Jun-19 10:06 PM] ononim#8141
||~~because for proffit private drug companies shouldn't exist at all~~||


[05-Jun-19 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/St_Lu3/status/1134872272903258113

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[05-Jun-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNi5bWEY90k

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[05-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48531019

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Trump says 'climate change goes both ways'
The president's views appeared unchanged after meeting environmentalist Prince Charles.
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[05-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't believe Trump did an outright "both sides" on /pollution/


[05-Jun-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[05-Jun-19 11:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190604/13305042334/european-court-justice-suggests-maybe-entire-internet-should-be-censored-filtered.shtml

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European Court Of Justice Suggests Maybe The Entire Internet Shoul...
The idea of an open "global" internet keeps taking a beating -- and the worst offender is not, say, China or Russia, but rather the EU. We've already discussed things like the EU Copyright Directive and the Terrorist Content Regulation...
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[05-Jun-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-city-approves-bylaw-that-would-fine-people-for-sleeping-on-sidewalks-1.4452205

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B.C. city approves bylaw that would fine people for sleeping on si...
A B.C. city has adopted new amendments to a bylaw banning people from lying or sitting down on city streets.
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[05-Jun-19 11:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The EU is absolutely insane with what they want to propose on the internet


[05-Jun-19 11:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's almost like they are run by those who don't know jack shit on how the internet works


[05-Jun-19 11:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Old fartsl dinosaurs who are still stuck in the 90s


[05-Jun-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 1890's more like it


[06-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Yuri#4154
It's not just the EU


[06-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Yuri#4154
You mean to tell me that old politicians know jack shit about the internet?


[06-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Yuri#4154
Shocking


[06-Jun-19 12:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Climate is not a one sided issue Trump, it's everyone's issue


[06-Jun-19 12:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The politicians that get elected in to EU parliament are usually tied to the same politicians in governments of the nations. You can see the problem.


[06-Jun-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
"that officer literally covered his badge when he ran to grab the camera. they know exactly wtf they be doing."


[06-Jun-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/legal-experts-stunned-by-das-barbaric-decision-to-send-manafort-to-rikers-island

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Legal experts stunned by DA's 'barbaric' move to send Manafort to ...
The decision to send one of the highest-profile Trump campaign members prosecuted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller to Rikers Island has stunned many in the legal community -- and even some Democrats not normally sympathetic toward Mueller targets.
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[06-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey, if you think a prison is so bad you wouldn't even send a traitorous pawn of a hostile foreign nation engaged in fueling bloody civil and covert wars there, then maybe that prison is really just kind of bad


[06-Jun-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or maybe start holding "white collar" criminals that steal millions as responsible as that one drunk guy that got into a fight and broke someone's arm


[06-Jun-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
apparently de blasio started a plan to shut it down within 10 years in 2017


[06-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, there's literally no reason to move him from federal prison to rikers island


[06-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
no one can make heads or tails as to why he's being transferred


[06-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
other than petty revenge for associating with trump


[06-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Jun-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"That's what this is all about. It's about safety."


[06-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's about how much you hate the homeless and that you hav to look at them


[06-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess "safety" means "peace of mind"


[06-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't like that people are homeless, so if we just arrest any that are seen obviously being homeless, that makes the problem go away, right?


[06-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Out of sight, out of mind, no need to do anything.


[06-Jun-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[06-Jun-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a bit old now, but https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/canada/justin-trudeau-election-snc-lavalin.html

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His poll standings are in free fall, and a dispute with a female cabinet minister raised questions about his leadership, but the Canadian prime minister remains confident.
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[06-Jun-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau has absolutely fukked up massively


[06-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he played centrist or Third Way


[06-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he pushed aggressively to get oil pipelines, pissing off environmentalists


[06-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
while pushing for carbon taxes, pissing off big oil


[06-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
while pushing for respecting native rights, pissing off conservatives


[06-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
*then*


[06-Jun-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
he decided that it would be bad if Canada had to press charges on a company that did serious wrongdoing in relation to oil


[06-Jun-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so when his (female) AG went to pressing them...


[06-Jun-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Trudeau is retarded


[06-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
he decided that women's place is not in challenging the decisions of powerful men.


[06-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And forced her to resign.


[06-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that he could prevent the company from facing any serious charges.


[06-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he's a corrupt asshole who ran on promises to appease liberals without pissing off conservatives and now everyone in Canada hates him because his response is always to make things worse (except on natives, where he generally makes things better...but they don't vote)


[06-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why it doesn't pay to play centrist.


[06-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are shitheads who don't want you to accept that other people hav rights too


[06-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you do that, it doesn't *matter* how corrupt you act, you can never get in their good graces


[06-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can bend over bakkwards to make big pharma and big coal rich as ever, but if you also decide that brown people shouldn't be in poverty, conservatives will burn you


[06-Jun-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then liberals aren't going to be fond of how you spent all that money destrying the environment and only making tacit gestures on civil rights.


[06-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Justin Trudeau would've been in a better position had he outlawed all new construction on fossil fuels period and implemented a huge carbon tax with all its money going towards natives and environmental projects.


[06-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
What an idiot.


[06-Jun-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
He is a true radical centrist


[06-Jun-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
In every sense of the word


[06-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Denk#5891
Does centrism even work?


[06-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, "you mean that if I do this, we make tons of money, but destroy the forests? Okay, I'll destroy the forests so we hav money to plant other ones "


[06-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[06-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Centrism at its core is about balancing the wants of liberals, who hav some ideas how to fix things


[06-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and conservatives, who believe that fixing things is wrong


[06-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you create a bunch of small changes that go halfway to fixing things and both sides are pissed at you because now you've broken things further


[06-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Denk#5891
You mean like leaving things on status quo?


[06-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Status quo is generally broken in some sense, yes


[06-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the problem


[06-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general, a good approach is to only accept some liberal ideas at a time


[06-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but centrism instead tries to cut each idea in half and do them all in parallel


[06-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things don't always work when you cut them in half


[06-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you never want to mire yourself in like twenty different projects at once


[06-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why centrism fails


[06-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, halting oil pipeline building is a generally good idea, with some negatives


[06-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
fixing native poverty is a generally good idea, with a lot of cost


[06-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maintaining energy independence and new construction is a generally good idea


[06-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau tried to do all these things at once in like at best half measures


[06-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he built some new pipelines...when nobody wanted him to


[06-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to maintain some energy independence...that could've been better done with renewables


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
While pretty much only token gestures were done towards natives...that only pissed off conservatives


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
tbh he only won because his predecessor was trump on steroids


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now his successor probably will be as well.


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
literally burned shacks filled with decades of climate data


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Great job ruining liberalism, fukking centrist


[06-Jun-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Macron won for similar reasons iirc


[06-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Macron did basically the same thing


[06-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
except with a conservative tilt


[06-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Centrists are evil.


[06-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They essentially play Switzerland in the campaign then you elect them and they decide that between letting the fires burn and putting them out, that everything should be set on fire just a little bit.


[06-Jun-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then they lord over you how much they prevented from turning to ashes


[06-Jun-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I have to wonder if france literally would have been better off with le pen for a few years to cause massive riots and then a proper liberal in the aftermath


[06-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[06-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Le Pen would've done something super shitty, but her successor would reverse it and set France straight


[06-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Macron could just open things wide for someone like her to rule for multiple terms


[06-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good thing about electing Trump is it means we want to elect Bernie now


[06-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it was Hillary in office, we could've been looking at her failing to fix healthcare while taking away all our online privacy by now


[06-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then we could've gotten Ted Cruz after her


[06-Jun-19 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-78-the-militarization-of-us-medias-drug-coverage

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[06-Jun-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope bernie has a shot this time


[06-Jun-19 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden is the big obstacle standing in the way of that; I fear that if the DNC don't dramatically alter the way they do things then we'll see a nearly exact repeat of what happened with Hillary


[06-Jun-19 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if the news is anything to go by, that fear is not unfounded


[06-Jun-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that CNN has diverted a shit ton of air time to biden, more than every other candidate combined


[06-Jun-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
and planted multiple smear questions for bernie to answer, knowing that he would answer them directly instead of calling them out as smear questions


[06-Jun-19 06:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If it were literally anyone other than biden, I'd say the smart thing for him to do would be to drop out of the race and present himself as a potential future running mate for one of the other candidates. But this guy's been VP for 8 years already, so...


[06-Jun-19 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
seeing a team-up between warren and sanders would be pretty sweet. In my wildest dreams, though, it'd be one of these two senators propping up buttigieg, the guy with executive experience


[06-Jun-19 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Aside from biden, can you see any problems with the general idea of a leading democratic candidate stepping out of the ring to bolster the campaign of another candidate?


[06-Jun-19 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for that matter, would one of the other candidates pledging themselves to biden be better or worse than the current situation?


[06-Jun-19 08:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/CekSfajpSL8

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Mike Rowe's bootlicker ideology - Street Fight podcast
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[06-Jun-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
my crow

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[06-Jun-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[06-Jun-19 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh hey I found another true neutral https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center-for-responsive-politics-open-secrets/

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Center for Responsive Politics (Open Secrets) - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least ...
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[06-Jun-19 02:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is good, because now I can use them as a primary source for this https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/trump-foreign-business-interests/

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Anna Massoglia and Karl Evers-Hillstrom
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World of influence: A guide to Trump’s foreign business interests
Two years into his presidency, Donald Trump continues to make money from properties and licensing deals in nearly two dozen countries around the world.
https://cdn1.opensecrets.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/04172421/President-Donald-Trump-DC-Trump-Hotel.jpg


[06-Jun-19 02:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk not only could he not drill a hole in wood, he couldn't do regular acting either


[06-Jun-19 02:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dirty Jobs was him going into a very carefully controlled situation with tons of people to help him fumble around in borderline slapstick vignettes


[06-Jun-19 02:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was as representative of doing a dirty job as driving through the poor parts of a city is being poor


[06-Jun-19 02:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://thinkprogress.org/west-virginia-senate-passes-sweeping-education-bill-to-ban-teacher-strikes-3c8c7ba83f06/

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Elham Khatami
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West Virginia Senate passes sweeping education bill to ban teacher...
The bill would allow schools to fire workers for striking and withhold pay on strike days.
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[06-Jun-19 02:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I am sure this contradicts a bunch of rights.


[06-Jun-19 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, it's identical to this https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ballotpedia/

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Ballotpedia - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least ...
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[06-Jun-19 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
don't know if you saw this or not when I linked it to you yesterday lol


[06-Jun-19 02:47 PM] DerpyPervy#2967
crow ?


[06-Jun-19 02:47 PM] DerpyPervy#2967
where can i please download that sweetie bot ?


[06-Jun-19 02:47 PM] DerpyPervy#2967
@Crow


[06-Jun-19 03:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[06-Jun-19 03:14 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why are you asking this in politics ._.


[06-Jun-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck the west virginia gop


[06-Jun-19 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs

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POT BROTHERS AT LAW one MINUTE TIP of the day
SHUT THE FUCK UP FRIDAY and LEARN THE SCRIPT
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[06-Jun-19 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1f12eaf734014da6bcd0995ae89c6636

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Putin says Russia hasn't meddled in US vote and never will
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday reaffirmed his staunch denial that his government meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, adding that Moscow has...
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[06-Jun-19 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh my god guys! putin said russia never interfered! It must be true then!


[06-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Oh my god guys! Putin said Russia never interfered! He must be lying!


[06-Jun-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I trust all of US intelligence over a dictator


[06-Jun-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would putin be honest in this matter? "Yes! It was I who meddled in your elections! Forgive me I'll never do it again."


[06-Jun-19 07:36 PM] ononim#8141
Vova says a lot of things


[06-Jun-19 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
If you think all of them, hell even most of them true, I am sorry, you're retarded


[06-Jun-19 07:43 PM] ononim#8141
I don't even think any interference played a crucial role in the elections


[06-Jun-19 07:44 PM] ononim#8141
~~and I will admit it was nice to have Yanks on the receiving end of "foreign power meddles in your country political process" for one~~


[06-Jun-19 07:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Just like you'd trust US intelligence over Saddam about wmd's?

This whole thing is ridiculous. Russia just like ourselves have medded in the elections of others. But to expect someone to come out and admit it or assume that they must be lying is a flawed way of thinking. 

But yeah i do belive with ghey that even if it did happen it wasn't enough to tip it one way or another


[06-Jun-19 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
It is unheard of that every single intelligence agency in the US would openly state that an external actor interfered in US elections


[06-Jun-19 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
And in this case that's what happened


[06-Jun-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
In the past intelligence agencies have either refrained comment on things they knew not to be true, or it was most of the time the CIA peddling propaganda


[06-Jun-19 08:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-court-idUSKCN1T020S

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[06-Jun-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok so now we have had a judge both deny the congressional interference of the national emergency, and also deny Trump his wall start


[06-Jun-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is getting confusing now


[06-Jun-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/31f75b8f3cfd4895b9c35aaec1050219

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Poll: Some younger workers view aging workforce negatively
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[06-Jun-19 10:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://boingboing.net/2019/06/06/crackdown-on-journalism-in-aus.html

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Crackdown on journalism in Australia
Crackdown on journalism in Australia
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[06-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wow, the Senate actually doing its job https://www.propublica.org/article/congress-scraps-provision-to-restrict-irs-from-competing-with-turbotax

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Congress Scraps Provision to Restrict IRS From Competing With Turb...
The change comes after ProPublica highlighted the deceptive marketing practices of Intuit, the maker of TurboTax, and other major tax prep companies.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20190605-irs-turbotax-free-file-1200x630.jpg


[06-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
For those who aren't in the US etc.


[06-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
yes, our tax system is Free 2 Play/Pay 2 Win


[06-Jun-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "Free File" deal is that the IRS will refuse to let people file for free in exchange for private companies offering a free filing option.


[06-Jun-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Said options involve hounding you about paying for actually decent service instead of the barebones system.


[06-Jun-19 10:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK and it's colonies have gone into full "Stand with our troops" mode. Making laws so that it is near impossible to get the troops into court for their crimes or making life hell for those that report on the crimes.


[07-Jun-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is there an article for this


[07-Jun-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[07-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/hofeller-republican-gerrymandering-north-carolina.html

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New Files From GOP Operative’s Hard Drive Suggest N.C. Republica...
Republicans’ alleged lies convinced a court to scrap a special election that threatened the GOP’s supermajority.
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[07-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[07-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
some people should be put in jail very soon


[07-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the courts do their job


[07-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans in North Carolina lied to SCOTUS


[07-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to buy another year of gerrymandering


[07-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
(one of the GOP's top people at gerrymandering died, his secret files went to his daughter who uh, wasn't so big on manipulating elections...)


[07-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one way to start getting hammered in the courts...


[07-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Die, then the next generation thinks you're a scummy fukk so they reveal all the illegal crap you did with your buddies.


[07-Jun-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protip: don't rely on the elderly as your only voting/moral base.


[07-Jun-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1136772606806413312

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SwiftOnSecurity (@SwiftOnSecurity)
https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1136772606806413312
Let me get this straight.

You made a Chrome app for public schools. It waits for kids to plug in their phones to charge. It searches the phone for photos, uploads the files to you, specifically to find naked pictures of the kids. On their personal phones.
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[07-Jun-19 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
***Y I K E S***


[07-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/14/north-carolina-bishop-doover-election-1322908

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‘Bathroom bill’ author wins GOP nomination in North Carolina r...
State Sen. Dan Bishop will face Democrat Dan McCready in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District do-over race.
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[07-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, North Carolina


[07-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
so after the result got thrown out due to Republicans rigging the vote


[07-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're now throwing their chips in with the author of the bathroom bill that had to be repealed because of mass business boycotts against the state


[07-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we sure North Carolina Republicans are not in fact comic book villains who entered the wrong universe?


[07-Jun-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have been thinking about how card-carrying villains highly resemble modern US republicans and I have been trying to think of a counterexample just to be sure it's not my own bias talking


[07-Jun-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact, the only "liberal" villains I can think of tend to be of the "scientists playing god" archetype a la Jurassic Park and Godzilla...


[07-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, a card could be a party registration card...


[07-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Grand Evil Party might be a catchier name.


[07-Jun-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Greasy oligarch party?


[07-Jun-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace the elephant with Henry VIII eating pork rinds.


[07-Jun-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But jokes aside, can you think of a single movie villain that resembles modern liberals in a movie that didn't have an anti-science moral


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals create movies


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives pretty much never do


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism tends to mean much more creativity and less rigidity


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is very important in making movies


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh yeah I hadn't even thought about the Christian film industry


[07-Jun-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's probably where I'll find it


[07-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives when they make movies tend to be like Lucas making the prequels


[07-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
No disagreement allowed, here is the script, here is what it's supposed to be like


[07-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that...doesn't get you very far starting out.


[07-Jun-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
D'you think a similar level of control is present on Hallmark channel movies, or are those merely a product of terrible budget and non-existent oversight?


[07-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure everybody involved in those is solely in it for the money


[07-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
which according to studies means the art suffers, badly


[07-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Terrible budget is part of that.


[07-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The less money there is, the more people want to struggle for it.


[07-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, another part of that is that Lucas is pretty liberal, Wing


[07-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars is effectively a fairy tale about how liberals take down the space British Empire


[07-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's what a lot of modern stuff is based on


[07-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
People see a homogenous society of overly-high-class guys mandating everything and they're pretty sure those guys are nazis


[07-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like the Empire is like that and was pretty much part nazi


[07-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it makes a lot of sense, generally it's the evil authoritarians that are all homogenous etc.


[07-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty hard to make the ragtag group of diverse people the evil empire.


[07-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
(unless you're DC comics, which is part of why Marvel has an easier time making movies...)


[07-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Lilly#4737

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[07-Jun-19 05:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjTvvYTylzg

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[07-Jun-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lemme guess: because social media is starting to crack down on violent and extreme activity, related to the promotion of violence against certain groups of people, denial of the existence of certain acts of violence, and actually websites observing their own privately written Terms of Service this means we are now finally in the People's Republic of China but on a global scale?


[07-Jun-19 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because boi, I would have told you we were there long before.


[07-Jun-19 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Either that, or direct governmental involvement in the above activities, which again is also well underway


[07-Jun-19 05:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Boy, I wonder what would happen if control of these very large corporations almost countries in their own right we're to develop democratic control, if not by the userbases as a whole but by the developing teams and not a small collection of share holders looking out to how they're going to make quarter-to-quarter profits


[07-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
That guy has some real captivating titles and thumbnails


[07-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Didn't this already get linked?


[07-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Wouldn't trust this guy with my broken pencil

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[07-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[07-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so in order


[07-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire first row is about social media censorship and FEMINISM


[07-Jun-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it's more of the same but BIG BROTHER EU plus actually taking seriously the stupidity about privatizing the ISS (likely the idea being private companies would shut it down)


[07-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then whatever's popular in media


[07-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second one's not that bad except...IREXIT, really?


[07-Jun-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Up the 'Ra


[07-Jun-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Up left-wing nationalism


[07-Jun-19 06:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
May they drive out the Anglos from all the isles and implement Socialism With Gaelic Characteristics.


[07-Jun-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Needs 80+ videos that were made on a daily basis about Captain Marvel


[07-Jun-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Russia paid/pays people to shitpost about Star Wars all day


[07-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know that meme image about countering anti-vax moms as a doctor by making up conspiracy theories about Russia weakening the US population? Reminder that it's basically true, except that the purpose is political rather than as biological warfare.


[07-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're going to have smallpox come back and it will be Putins fault ultimately.


[07-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No way are the only samples in those two labs.


[07-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be the deadliest and stupidest WMD ever


[07-Jun-19 07:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Since it turns out that rubella has been linked to an increased risk of autism, then it can be safe to say that russia causes autism


[07-Jun-19 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to see the dashcam footage for Russia's moonlanding


[07-Jun-19 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim provide pls, comrade


[07-Jun-19 08:21 AM] Torr#5078
https://youtu.be/Vjz723sZ3Bc

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[07-Jun-19 08:41 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
@AaronMk those videos were lost in spacecraft crash


[07-Jun-19 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-bloomberg-to-put-500m-into-closing-all-remaining-coal-plants-by-2030/

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Bloomberg to put $500M into closing all remaining coal plants by 2030
The former New York City mayor is trying to put the U.S. on track toward 100% clean energy economy -- while bypassing the federal government
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[07-Jun-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/05/trump-administration-cancels-services-migrant-children/1358114001/

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Trump administration cuts English classes, soccer and legal aid fo...
The Trump Administration is cutting English classes, recreational activities and legal aid for unaccompanied minors living in migrant shelters.
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[07-Jun-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/06/06/biden-can-no-longer-support-hyde-amendment/1374682001/

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Biden: 'I can no longer support' Hyde Amendment
His reversal comes a day after Biden's campaign reportedly maintained that he still supported the decades-old law that prohibits federal funding for most abortions.
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[07-Jun-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
proof that biden is a flip flopper


[07-Jun-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
no one should be voting for this dude


[07-Jun-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
he'll say whatever he needs to say to get elected, then sell out to giant corporations


[07-Jun-19 01:13 PM] byte[]#2610
you confirmation bias'd yourself


[07-Jun-19 01:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I don't think he should be in the race anyhow on account of him leeching the support of the DNC and media away from candidates better poised to reverse Trump's damage


[07-Jun-19 01:27 PM] Crow#5457
who confirmation bias'd themselves? me?


[07-Jun-19 01:27 PM] Crow#5457
he basically said that he supported the hyde amendment, up until everyone criticized him for it


[07-Jun-19 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
then he said "oops, I mean I don't"


[07-Jun-19 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally no way I'm able to interpret this other than flip flopping


[07-Jun-19 01:30 PM] Crow#5457
there is no "honest mistake" in saying "I don't think that the federal government should providing funding for abortions"


[07-Jun-19 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], am I missing something?


[07-Jun-19 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think I am


[07-Jun-19 01:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There is the possibility that he was playing a long con for political advantage, I've seen that done before, but in this instance I can't see how it gains him anything on either side of the equation


[07-Jun-19 03:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Huawei phones are not allowed to have preinstalled Facebook apps now. Sounds like a selling point to me.


[07-Jun-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
that's going to end up being the future


[07-Jun-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
only in china, it's going to be preinstalled chinese apps


[07-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
the west will likely ban preinstalled apps outright


[07-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
well, at least europe


[07-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
it likely violates the spirit of net neutrality


[07-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
if not the letter


[07-Jun-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, apparently people are expecting breadtube to somehow be hit the hardest by their "supremacist ban" <https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/bx8npd/youtube_just_banned_supremacist_content_and/>


[07-Jun-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1136384532297371649

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The Serfs (@theserfstv)
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Rare behind the scenes footage of the decision between @scrowder and @gaywonk https://t.co/kkbueO4emY
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[07-Jun-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[07-Jun-19 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvhEpOBUMw

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Tea Partiest
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Dem John Delaney Booed When He Argues Against Medicare For All
John Delaney is a Democrat running for president. Sunday, he spoke at the California Democrat Convention and dared to suggest a less extreme path for his par...
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[07-Jun-19 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
third way btfo


[07-Jun-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
also, his reaction is kinda cringy tbh


[07-Jun-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
he keeps saying "universal healthcare, universal healthcare", but says medicare for all would kick 150 million people off of healthcare


[07-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/07/europe/homophobic-attack-london-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

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Lesbian couple viciously beaten in homophobic attack on London bus
Police are calling for witnesses after two women were beaten and robbed in a homophobic attack on a London bus.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190607072852-homophobic-attack-london-intl-super-tease.jpg


[07-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
the fox news source title identifies them as "flight attendant and american girlfriend"


[07-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
I guess to maximize the effect of seeing "omg an american was attacked"


[07-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
basically, it seems they ordered the couple to kiss for their "entertainment" and beat them up when they refused


[07-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/6/7/18656356/hannity-lock-them-up-pelosi-trump

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Hannity: "Hillary should be in jail." Also Hannity: Locking up Tru...
Beyond parody.
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[07-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
>Fox News host Sean Hannity, who has done more than anybody (except perhaps Donald Trump himself) to push the narrative that Hillary Clinton should be locked up, now thinks such calls are something that only happens in “banana republics” — at least when they’re directed toward Trump.


[07-Jun-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
>For years, Hannity’s conspiratorial case for imprisoning Clinton has been a centerpiece of his shows; even after the 2016 election, he’s used that narrative to deflect from damaging revelations stemming from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference and the Trump campaign’s role in it.


[07-Jun-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/06/middleeast/saudi-teen-death-penalty-intl/

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He was arrested at 13. Now Saudi Arabia wants to execute him
When Murtaja Qureiris was a child, he led protests demanding rights for Saudi Arabia’s Shia minority. Now he faces the death penalty.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/interactive/2019/06/middleeast/saudi-teen-death-penalty-intl/media/images/tease-1600x900.jpeg


[07-Jun-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They intend to literally crucify him over participating in a protest bike parade when he was 10


[07-Jun-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1137051097955102720

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1137051097955102720
For all of the money we are spending, NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon - We did that 50 years ago. They should be focused on the much bigger things we are doing, including Mars (of which the Moon is a part), Defense and Science!
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[07-Jun-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can i get uuuuuuuuuuuh


[07-Jun-19 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Senseless president


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
wtf


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay he's gotta be senile


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
part of his policy approach to NASA has been pushing for a Moon return


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's been the entire plan for like 3 years


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was the one good thing about his space policy


[07-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
and now he's just wiped his ass with it


[07-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
he says that the moon is a part of mars


[07-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
almost nothing about this tweet makes any sense


[07-Jun-19 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think i got it, it's because he's shit at constructing coherent sentences


[07-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, what he's saying is


[07-Jun-19 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He means the Mars project, "of which the Moon project is a part"


[07-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
That NASA will go to the Moon, but never talk about it


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it has to sell things to the American public with MARS MARS MARS in a mad rush


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's retarded


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't understand actual pubilicity


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't understand actual progress on offworld bases and the technological limitations


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He literally thinks that Lunar Gateway is realistic lol


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
that we will put a space station around the Moon just so we can head to Mars from it


[07-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
which makes 0 sense.


[07-Jun-19 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's just a dummy on science issues


[07-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, at most you would want a railgun on the moon that shoots stuff to mars


[07-Jun-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you constructed a vehicle from Moon resources, it'd make perfect sense


[07-Jun-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the tech isn't there


[07-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need a long-term habitat on the Moon to do that minimum, and the tech isn't even really there for that


[07-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
A long-term Mars habitat is a pipe dream right now.


[07-Jun-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is like saying that the FDA shouldn't talk about curing schizophrenia on the way to curing cancer because the former is just a part of the latter, and that we can do both within 10 years etc.


[07-Jun-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump always does this stupidly consistantly, He asks for something, demands it happen, and then when it;s within arm's reach he get;s greedy and starts demanding more and more and more


[07-Jun-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while promising more and mroe punishments if his demands aren't met immediately even if that may be impossible to accomplish


[07-Jun-19 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A r t o f t h e d e a l


[07-Jun-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, a trumpanzee posted a gif of a lion confronting a pair of crocodiles and causing them to move back into the water on the tweet trump released announcing his return


[07-Jun-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
with trump as the "lion" returning to the "swamp"


[07-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/adasomg/status/1137053034872266758

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@realDonaldTrump Hope all the swamp creatures enjoyed being home alone.

The BOSS is heading back and there are so many BIG things about to happen! https://t.co/hDFfMY8C6f
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[07-Jun-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's the varuca salt of presidents


[07-Jun-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Making a moon base is key to sending people to Mars if I'm not mistaken


[07-Jun-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is, it is a very important step in getting to mars


[07-Jun-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is an idiot


[07-Jun-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But now he wants to skip that step and just go straightr to mars.


[07-Jun-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is a greedy moron


[07-Jun-19 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[07-Jun-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[07-Jun-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s not fucking better


[07-Jun-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to compare trump to anyone in star trek it would be these shit weasels

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[07-Jun-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d compare him to a ferengi but he isn't smart enough for that


[07-Jun-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e14a0a6eb46d4e4b980da3c264fcac43

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US hiring slows amid trade rifts and weaker global economy
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. hiring stumbled in May as employers added just 75,000 jobs, a sign that businesses have become more cautious in the face of weaker global growth, widening trade conflicts...
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[07-Jun-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/877961f25579480e96f886b7ab9e5269

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Court lifts injunction blocking Keystone XL oil pipeline
HELENA, Mont. (AP) — An appeals court has lifted a judge's injunction that blocked construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada to the U.S., but the developer has said it's too late to...
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[07-Jun-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>An appeals court has lifted a judge’s injunction that blocked construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada to the U.S., but the developer has said it’s too late to begin work this year and environmental groups vowed to keep fighting it.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday ordered dismissal of the lawsuit by environmental and Native American groups, saying President Donald Trump had revoked a 2017 permit allowing the $8 billion pipeline to be built.

Trump later issued a new permit, and the appellate judges agreed with Justice Department attorneys who say that nullifies the legal challenge involving environmental impacts.


[07-Jun-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
what


[07-Jun-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
that's like cooking a meal from tainted ingredients, throwing it out when people complain that the meal smells bad, and then making the exact same meal from the exact same batch of tainted ingredients again


[07-Jun-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
logic has left the building


[07-Jun-19 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon I wonder how would Trudeau, for example, try to weasle out of this one if he was confronted with that and selling wepons to Saudis


[07-Jun-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kind of sounds more like making the meal with the tainted ingredients, throwing it out, and then pulling it out of the trash and putting it back on the plate


[07-Jun-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then re-serving it


[07-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*"Mars (of which the Moon is a part)"*
— Donald Trump, 2019


[07-Jun-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet someone could write a parody of "I want it now" from willy wonka but with Trumps desires and greed


[07-Jun-19 11:17 PM] illumnious#7938
1984 all over again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA6pazfxkxw

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Big Tech Is Big Brother
George Orwell's fictionalized world where Big Brother reigns supreme is no longer a figment of the imagination, but a prophetic vision of present-day threats...
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[07-Jun-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
got to the halfway mark and then the gamer moment kicked in


[07-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Read another book


[07-Jun-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
I see they totally overlook the fact these are not democratic platforms. The bullshit conservative feels over reals stuff aside, they're basically overlooking the fact that the system they support doesn't fucking care. They'll do whatever is profitable, keeps up profits, and so on. Complaining that they're on the wrong side of profits ignores they would otherwise gleefully surrender so much power to effective feudal autocrats.


[07-Jun-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
But they can't actually demand democratization of private industry, because that's actual socialism.


[08-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard people make arguments that amount to "a lot of people use it so the government should own it"


[08-Jun-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think the government should own it. But neither should private interests.


[08-Jun-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
The platforms are far too international, they shouldn't be trusted to any single government.


[08-Jun-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could of course break it all up though.


[08-Jun-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
But given the data-farming infrastructure in Facebook and Google, that's a lot of personal information that can now go straight to the NSA


[08-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course that will work


[08-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like it did the Bell System


[08-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They totally didn't merge all back together anyway


[08-Jun-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Break it all up and then democratize the pieces so there's little to no single private interest wanting to form an oligarchy to maximize profit in a technically private market. :nut:


[08-Jun-19 01:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"The free market is only good when it's owning the libtards"- Praeger U


[08-Jun-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5f6abe7ce5c248b891f55d08e7476742

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Free traders no more? GOP warms up to Trump's use of tariffs
WASHINGTON (AP) — With President Donald Trump threatening to slap tariffs on goods from Mexico, his transformation of Republican Party trade policy is nearly complete. Republican lawmakers...
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[08-Jun-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so much for their resistance


[08-Jun-19 01:59 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/05/high-heels-at-work-are-necessary-says-japan-labour-minister

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High heels at work are necessary, says Japan's labour minister
Ministry responds to #KuToo petition calling for end to women having to wear heels at work
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[08-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
big thonk


[08-Jun-19 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jun-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the fuller quote - that it is "socially accepted as something that falls within the realm of being occupationally necessary and appropriate" - reveals more about his mindset than the headline does


[08-Jun-19 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't do a whole lot of reading between the lines here because I'm assuming some translation's at work, but that still points to Tradition with a capital T dictating his policy. In other words, he won't change what's socially acceptable because the status quo says so


[08-Jun-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Japanese business is this weird blend of constant progression under the rule of staunch conservatism


[08-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730629404/supreme-court-pressed-for-sealed-documents-in-death-penalty-case

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Supreme Court Pressed For Sealed Documents In Death Penalty Case
The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and NPR filed a motion to release sealed documents related to an Alabama death penalty case. Sealing documents is an unusual move by the high court.
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[08-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
>None of the information that has been sealed has anything to do with the defendant's guilt. Rather, the information involves the drugs and the protocol Alabama uses for executions. Price wanted to be executed by nitrogen gas, which he contended would be less painful than death by lethal injection using a drug called midazolam, which Alabama ultimately did use in the execution.


[08-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
>The Supreme Court itself has often been mired in bitter debate about the death penalty in recent years, but it has not hidden the disputes from the public — until this case.


[08-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
>All of the deletions were at the insistence of Alabama, the reporters committee noted.


[08-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
uh oh


[08-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
it might turn out that they actually know that the drug they executed with him is painful


[08-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
and went ahead with the execution anyway


[08-Jun-19 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is teetering on the edge of the 8th amendment, isn't it


[08-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/supreme-court-neil-gorsuch-eighth-amendment-death-penalty-torture.html

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The Supreme Court’s Conservatives Just Legalized Torture
Criminal justice reformers must now wait for the other shoe to drop.
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[08-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
this happened 3 months ago


[08-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
> On Monday, five justices of the Supreme Court authorized Missouri to torture a man to death. In the process, they appear to have overruled decades of Eighth Amendment precedents in a quest to let states impose barbaric punishments, including excruciating executions, on prisoners. The court’s conservative majority has converted a once-fringe view into the law of the land, imperiling dozens of decisions protecting the rights of death row inmates, as well as juvenile offenders. Its ruling signals the end of an Eighth Amendment jurisprudence governed by “civilized standards”—and the beginning of a new, brutal era in American capital punishment.


[08-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Russell Bucklew is a death row inmate in Missouri who suffers from a rare medical condition called cavernous hemangioma. Due to this disorder, his body is covered with tumors filled with blood vessels. The tumors are in Bucklew’s neck and throat, his lips and uvula, which make it difficult for him to breathe. They are highly sensitive and frequently squirt blood. A medical expert, Dr. Joel Zivot, has testified that if Missouri administers a lethal injection to Bucklew, he will die a slow, agonizing death. His tumors will rupture and fill his mouth with blood, and he will suffocate to death in unbearable pain, choking and convulsing on the gurney as he dies.


[08-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
>To forestall this fate, Bucklew sought to block his execution by lethal injection, arguing that it would violate the Eighth Amendment’s bar against “cruel and unusual punishments.” Under two Supreme Court precedents, Baze v. Rees and Glossip v. Gross, an inmate challenging his method of execution must provide an “available alternative” that will cause less pain.
Bucklew asked to be killed with nitrogen gas so that he can die from “hypoxia,” a lack of oxygen, because his death from hypoxia would be faster than his death from lethal injection.


[08-Jun-19 03:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Can we torture conservatives in the supreme court to find out more about Russia?


[08-Jun-19 03:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Aaaaand would be much more painful


[08-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically, an exception to the current method of execution wanted to be executed a different way because it would be incredibly painful for him no matter how the execution was conducted


[08-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
the US supreme court instead ruled to legalize torturous methods of execution


[08-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
this is an incredibly slippery slope that gorsuch opened up


[08-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/columbine-high-school-may-be-torn-down-because-morbid-fascination-n1015126

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If you tear it down, the 'Columbiners' won't come
Twenty years after the massacre, the "morbid fascination" with Columbine High School is increasing
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[08-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
"The head of the Colorado school district where Columbine High School is located has a drastic proposal aimed at thwarting would-be mass killers and tragedy pilgrims who have a “morbid fascination” with the massacre that happened there — tear the building down."


[08-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, that's a nice and easy fix


[08-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
tear down the fucking building and bury your heads in the sand


[08-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
instead of pressuring local and state officials into funding for better mental healthcare


[08-Jun-19 04:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Never Forget" to "Just pretend it never happened"


[08-Jun-19 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile, Kent State has left the bullet holes in the side of the building


[08-Jun-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wingbeat you're not missing any context on the meaning


[08-Jun-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japanese is very precise, it's definitely not a translation error.


[08-Jun-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy literally is saying that if society accepts something as being necessary, it's necessary, fukk all you who would challenge tradition.


[08-Jun-19 04:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJzP5A7qS28

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJzP5A7qS28
Genetically Engineering Human Babies May Have Backfired
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[08-Jun-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japanese morality just cannot come to terms with modern legal frameworks.


[08-Jun-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not compatible.


[08-Jun-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is to always hav the flexibility to enforce some cultural norm.


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
>may have backfired


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is literally science in a nutshell


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
you can't have progress without failure


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, it was a rogue chinese scientist


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[08-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
who in no way had authorization to do this


[08-Jun-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
and genetic engineering is one of the most complex and unexplored areas of science


[08-Jun-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
especially in regards to humans


[08-Jun-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For the sake of psker's own mental health I think I'd like to challenge him to take the step to source and link the original post tim's reacting to instead of linking one of his videos because it's a good first step towards a healthy media diet


[08-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wing, that guy doesn't link sources


[08-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav to search things to find them


[08-Jun-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, that is exactly what I mean


[08-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of what makes it such a problem


[08-Jun-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In this case it's as simple as searching for the headline in quotes https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/06/first-gene-edited-crispr-babies-may-be-risk-early-death/

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First gene-edited babies may be at risk of early death
In 2018, a Chinese researcher shocked the world by announcing the birth of two gene-edited babies. The mutations may have hurt, not helped.
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[08-Jun-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Didn't even have to click play on the video


[08-Jun-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
learning to do things like that - searching for specific phrases and images, to track down a primary source - is the kind of internet savvy everyone should be taught


[08-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really minor


[08-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just saying the HIV resistance comes with a generally slightly lower lifespan


[08-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can see how it's *news*, but why does it need a video from that Tim guy?


[08-Jun-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because he is a reaction channel


[08-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did he just like, rag for hours about ROGUE SCIENTISTS WILL MAKE YOUR BABIES DIE?


[08-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incredibly reactionary.


[08-Jun-19 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not just reactionary, which we've already known - it's that his channel is in the form of a "react channel"


[08-Jun-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like vocal coaches reacting to and critiquing videos people send them of various singers, that's the high-effort end of it. The low-effort end is just youtube comments: the video


[08-Jun-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the format is simple. You talk about what you're going to react to, you consume said media while giving live commentary, and then you ramble on at the end giving your own personal thoughts on the matter


[08-Jun-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no effort or research is required, the only original content you have to provide is your reaction


[08-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did you watch the video? he talked rather blandly about the article. no "rage reaction"


[08-Jun-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato nitrogen asphyxiation is painless


[08-Jun-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not super common, but it is occasionally used as a suicide method (e.g., hooking up a welding gas tank to a cpap machine)


[08-Jun-19 05:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh ok


[08-Jun-19 05:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Whoops (again)


[08-Jun-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
rage ain't got nothing to do with it


[08-Jun-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bc9e1e1474e7460fa8176f472c79e063

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With Mexico deal done, US urges China to resume trade talks
FUKUOKA, Japan (AP) — One down, still others to go. President Donald Trump claimed a victory after Washington and Mexico agreed on measures to stem the flow of Central American migrants into the...
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[08-Jun-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want to say good news, but knowing Trump it;s going to take 2 days to turn his heels on mexico and demand more be done or else he starts the tariffs again


[08-Jun-19 03:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I kinda wish this article had spent even a single sentence on what the mexico deal actually was


[08-Jun-19 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is kicking asylum seekers back across the border while Mexico tries to find them jobs


[08-Jun-19 03:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It puts all the hard work on mexico, if I'm understanding the terms of the deal correctly


[08-Jun-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[08-Jun-19 03:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1137355469134151681?s=21

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Everyone very excited about the new deal with Mexico!
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[08-Jun-19 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if he didn't pick up on chuck schumer's sarcasm


[08-Jun-19 03:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
“This is an historic night!” he tweeted. “Now that that problem is solved, I’m sure we won’t be hearing any more about it in the future.”


[08-Jun-19 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
hahahahahahaaha


[08-Jun-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think Trump understands sarcasm at all in any form


[08-Jun-19 04:09 PM] Crow#5457
he only understands it when it's incredibly vitriolic


[08-Jun-19 04:09 PM] Crow#5457
because his own sarcasm is incredibly vitriolic


[08-Jun-19 04:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-f35-exclusive-idUSKCN1T802O

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U.S. to stop training Turkish F-35 pilots because of Russia deal:...
The United States has decided to stop accepting any more Turkish pilots who had ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190607&t=2&i=1395191378&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5602T


[08-Jun-19 04:23 PM] Crow#5457
lol ok


[08-Jun-19 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
turkey bought air defense missiles from russia, so now the US refuses to give turkey their shitty jet


[08-Jun-19 04:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I forget where I saw something about how the F-35 is secretly a plan to have foreign governments try and steal the design so that we maintain air superiority


[08-Jun-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e163ff036b724368893223b3528b01f7

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Scientists feel chill of crackdown on fetal tissue research
WASHINGTON (AP) — To save babies from brain-damaging birth defects, University of Pittsburgh scientist Carolyn Coyne studies placentas from fetuses that otherwise would be discarded — and she's...
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[08-Jun-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>To save babies from brain-damaging birth defects, University of Pittsburgh scientist Carolyn Coyne studies placentas from fetuses that otherwise would be discarded — and she’s worried this kind of research is headed for the chopping block.

The Trump administration is cracking down on fetal tissue research , with new hurdles for government-funded scientists around the country who call the special cells vital for fighting a range of health threats. Already, the administration has shut down one university’s work using fetal tissue to test HIV treatments, and is ending other fetal tissue research at the National Institutes of Health.

“I knew this was something that’s going to trickle down to the rest of us,” said Coyne. She uses the placenta, which people may not think of as fetal tissue but technically is classified as such because the fetus produced it, to study how viruses such as Zika get past that protective barrier early in pregnancy.


[08-Jun-19 07:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
Now let’s see


[08-Jun-19 07:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
What is their reason for this


[08-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guilt by association is their entire reason.


[08-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Abortion is sin, therefore you can't use waste from it to prevent people from dying horribly.


[08-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never about the fukking life of the child.


[08-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're religious zealots who will say and do anything to go after what they see as wrong because it liberates women from being baby factories.


[08-Jun-19 08:54 PM] Yuri#4154

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[08-Jun-19 08:54 PM] Yuri#4154
...


[08-Jun-19 08:54 PM] Yuri#4154
Which is it?


[08-Jun-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/climate/rod-schoonover-testimony.html

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White House Tried to Stop Climate Science Testimony, Documents Show
Administration officials said proposed testimony by a State Department scientist amounted to “climate alarm propaganda.”
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[08-Jun-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
“a consensus of peer reviewed literature has nothing to do with the truth.”


[08-Jun-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever is ultimately responsible for those words should never be allowed to work in government.


[08-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the most blatant science denial ever.


[08-Jun-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/06/comcast-broke-law-445000-times-in-scheme-to-inflate-bills-judge-finds/

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Comcast broke law 445,000 times in scheme to inflate bills, judge ...
Comcast deception leads to refunds and $9M fine, a fraction of the amount sought.
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[08-Jun-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they misled customers to think they needed an extra protection plan, then made up excuses on why the plan didn't cover things.


[08-Jun-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
half a million times.


[08-Jun-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's 10 times *per customer who bought it.*


[08-Jun-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
>$9M


[08-Jun-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
they should pay 25% of equity


[08-Jun-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they get a measly slap on the wrist aside of having to refund those guys.


[08-Jun-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm sick of these stupid half measures


[08-Jun-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The lawsuit sought $171 million


[08-Jun-19 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
cripple them


[08-Jun-19 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
comcast has US$71.613B of equity


[08-Jun-19 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
25% of that is US$17.9B


[08-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly


[08-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
see that national debt over there?


[08-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pay it off by fining corporations that break the rules.


[08-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just like, tell Comcast that all their profits are gonna be used to pay for Medicare this year.


[08-Jun-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
that won't really do anything


[08-Jun-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they'll just squirrel away anything they would have profited into stock and turn it into capital gains


[08-Jun-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
you need to directly attack their ability to exist as a corporation


[08-Jun-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
i.e. liabilities and equity


[08-Jun-19 09:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that or just charge them for 20x more than what their abusive practices will net them


[08-Jun-19 09:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
The ultimate full measure is complete and total liquidation.


[08-Jun-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would probably stop Washington state if it tried that


[08-Jun-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
but yes, inflate the number beyond the actual damages


[08-Jun-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Break up Comcast and make its remnants a public utility in all the states it's operating in. Each state getting their own slice.


[08-Jun-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has to, on balance, look like a bad business prospect to break the rules.


[08-Jun-19 09:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
:twismug:


[08-Jun-19 09:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48555149

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Microsoft deletes massive face database
The widely used database was created by copying images of celebrities found on websites and blogs.
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[08-Jun-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
"haha we made all this money selling this face database, now look at us delete it and pretend we were all for regulations to begin with"


[08-Jun-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
they only deleted it because they were done with it, not because of any moral reason


[08-Jun-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
the same exact thing happened during the golden age of capitalism


[08-Jun-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
bunch of old rich dudes who basically owned the US during the late 1800's started advocating for regulations after they had retired on massive piles of money


[08-Jun-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-48566800

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Boy, 16, held over homophobic bus attack
A total of five males aged between 15 and 18 have been arrested and bailed, the Met says.
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[08-Jun-19 09:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They healed up well. There was a picture of them with pretty badly cut noses sitting on the bus white shirt covered in blood. It was originally reported as 4 guys aged 15-18 not sure where the extra guy came from. It was also said they were arrested as soon as they got off the bus. Little shits that did it will probably spend a week or 2 in a centre and be back out on the streets again.


[08-Jun-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik they were on a crime spree


[08-Jun-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So 5th may have been from something else they did


[08-Jun-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire concept that you can be out on bail for a violent crime is absurd


[08-Jun-19 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/steckel/status/1136825825070788608

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spectacle.txt (@steckel)
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holy shit the video is 100x better than the still image ever could have led me to believe https://t.co/SP4WVlZeu1
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[08-Jun-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America is a fascinating thing


[08-Jun-19 10:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oof, https://twitter.com/mombot/status/1137153156243046400

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Peter Bright, Ars Technica journalist, male feminist, troll, and frequent critic of gamers and other nerds as misogynist "pedos", has been arrested for attempting to have sex with a 7-year-old girl.
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[08-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/06/08/lesbian-couple-attacked-on-bus-gets-blasted-on-social-media-for-being-gay/

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Lesbian couple attacked on bus gets blasted on social media ‘for...
Social media users are adding insult to injury to the lesbian couple who suffered a chilling attack on a London bus last week. The assault, which left an American woman with a broken jaw after she …
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[08-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
hating gays in 2019


[08-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
how quaint


[08-Jun-19 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
I think it was posted before


[08-Jun-19 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
Or I am mistaking political cahnnels


[08-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
a few articles about the original attack were posted a couple days ago, then I posted one about a follow-up arrest earlier


[08-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
none were posted about them being attacked for being lesbian though


[08-Jun-19 10:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This isn't about the attack it is about people responding to the attack.


[08-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
also, there's an italian lying about their age of consent being 18 in the replies to that tweet about the arrest lol


[08-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
their age of consent is 14


[08-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
and 13 when the age difference is <3 years


[08-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
and 16 if in a "position of trust", ie teacher and student


[08-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it's 18 in italy if it's prostitution


[08-Jun-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Jun-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
BE GREEK


[08-Jun-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Jun-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
DO   C R I M E S


[08-Jun-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NORINEMUR/status/1137064652972498944

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Norine (@NORINEMUR)
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@steckel Canada has had the metric system now for decades. Everyone I know still measures their ingredients using cups and tablespoons. Those guys are scared of their own shadows.
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[08-Jun-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-selects-mcgruff-crime-dog-fbi-director?fbclid=IwAR11hQwXGncshhATqmeow0b8Mtne2mVhts2ibpJRld1jprUDFhh9WZUBQX0

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Trump Selects McGruff The Crime Dog As FBI Director
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Finally selecting James Comey’s replacement as head of the department, President Donald Trump named McGruff the Crime Dog as FBI Director Wednesday morning.The large, cuddly, anthropomorphic canine detective was announced as Comey’s replacement at a Whi...
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[08-Jun-19 10:33 PM] RYDE#8862
Ok.jpg


[08-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.vox.com/2019/6/7/18656603/aung-san-suu-kyi-viktor-orban-muslims

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Aung San Suu Kyi and Viktor Orban lament "growing Muslim populations"
This continues the Nobel Peace Prize winner’s fall from grace.
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[08-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
```Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi, who was once lauded internationally for her efforts to bring democracy to Myanmar, made a rare trip to Europe this week.

But the civilian leader’s purpose this time wasn’t to champion human rights and democracy. It was to meet with far-right Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orbán to lament the “continuously growing Muslim populations” in both of their countries.

“The two leaders highlighted that one of the greatest challenges at present for both countries and their respective regions — South East Asia and Europe — is migration,” read a statement released by the Hungarian government after the summit. “They noted that both regions have seen the emergence of the issue of coexistence with continuously growing Muslim populations.”

That’s a chilling statement. Over the past two years, Suu Kyi has stood by during the genocide of Myanmar’s Rohingya, a long-persecuted Muslim minority group. Hundreds of thousands have been killed or have fled their homes to escape the widespread crackdown. ```


[08-Jun-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/world/europe/michael-gove-cocaine-uk.html

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Michael Gove, a Contender to Succeed Theresa May, Admits to Past D...
Mr. Gove said that he had taken illegal drugs “on several occasions at social events more than 20 years ago.” He said it should not disqualify him in the leadership race.
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[08-Jun-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
>Michael Gove, a senior official in Britain and one of the top contenders  to replace Theresa May as Conservative leader and prime minister, has admitted to taking illegal drugs in his youth, calling it “a mistake.”


[08-Jun-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
only to conservatives would drug use when younger be considered something even worth mentioning


[08-Jun-19 11:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
I bet he's a pussy and never lost the ability of losing the ability to produce   t h e    h a p p y    j u i c e   by coming down off MDMA


[08-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/aYXxmpu

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Something something 451
https://i.imgur.com/vA2GPcXh.jpg


[08-Jun-19 11:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is what happens when you let computers run your society of control.


[08-Jun-19 11:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/FinnBalor/status/1137154614095163392

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[08-Jun-19 11:31 PM] ononim#8141
F


[08-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note that cooking measurements are actually one of the worst aspects of the Imperial system and I would be glad to see them replaced


[08-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
teaspoons and tablespoons are a serious problem for confusability and there's in general too many distinctions of measurement between teaspoon and quart


[08-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
teaspoon, cup, gallon would be sensible


[08-Jun-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
MASS PLEASE


[08-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
teaspoon, tablespoon, cup, pint, quart, gallon is not


[08-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget pinch and dash


[08-Jun-19 11:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gove is just spouting bullshit to get attention for their leadership contest. Some other one did the same about weed.


[08-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
pinches and dashes are VERBOTEN


[08-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Measuring by volume is easier


[08-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A set of cups is $1


[08-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And electric scale is way more


[08-Jun-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mine was $15


[08-Jun-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So fifteen times the price


[08-Jun-19 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that metric measuring cups *are* volumetric to the best of my knowledge


[08-Jun-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
measuring cups can be very annoying


[08-Jun-19 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It also lets me measure how much meat or spinach to add to a dish better than any cup could


[08-Jun-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The answer in that case would be "a lot" and "just a bit"


[08-Jun-19 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, the measuring cups *that I own* have gradations in mL


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who needs exactly 320g of beef


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only baking requires exactness really


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
People making large meals for parties


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I like to buy in bulk


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any time things multiply, you need precision.


[08-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I like to freeze and store things in measured quantities


[08-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I also like to know that the spaghetti I make today is the same amount of food as the one I'll make 3 months from now


[08-Jun-19 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if you read professional baking recipes they usually list things in % of the total amount of flour because they need that precision


[08-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything but cooking etc metric makes the most sense for


[08-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Temperature I'm on the fence about


[08-Jun-19 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(percentage happens to be a system based on a 0-100 scale)


[08-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
70% of the scale is useless in daily use


[08-Jun-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In response to that, how many recipes have you seen in °F that call out a temperature in anything other than increments of 5°F?


[09-Jun-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
farentheit is needlessly precise - and ovens frequently fluctuate over double that precision during their baking cycle


[09-Jun-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(for baking, anyhow)


[09-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"needlessly precise"


[09-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't they redefine what a kilogram is every few years


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not anymore


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's only because up until very recently the kilogram was the only metric measurement still based on a physical object


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
pounds


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
are DEFINED


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the kilogram


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also true


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US gov't has its own kilogram replicas


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are used to define the pound


[09-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the definition of the kilogram changes, the definition of the pound changes


[09-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly


[09-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
every time someone defends the Imperial system


[09-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because they're misinformed


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Metric system isn't a standard because of some bullshit, it has very very very good reasons for everything it does


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Imperial system is a leech that alters it with a bunch of arbitrary extra math


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: the origin of this


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Robespierre did nothing wrong


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't going to ever find a good reason to use Imperial.


[09-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, literally, when you are using a scale to measure pounds


[09-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are actually using it to measure a special multiple of kilograms


[09-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
that scale's calibration stems from kilograms


[09-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody has pound weight artifacts.


[09-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no debate with speed, volume and distance


[09-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no debate with mass.


[09-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[09-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact it's the continued use of pounds that is one of the problems with UK grocery stores.


[09-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The units confuse shoppers


[09-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
grocery stores that use metric don't hav that problem


[09-Jun-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
>news comes on


[09-Jun-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
>instead of talking about how Comcast scammed customers very directly for millions of dollars


[09-Jun-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
>talking about how a rich bitch got BULLIED ONLINE for paying millions to kill a giraffe and boo hoo conservationists just don't understand I'm helping the wildlife


[09-Jun-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
>moves on to minor scamming of boomers who bought into timeshares and now want to sell them cause they got no income, a few million dollars total


[09-Jun-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, fukk CBS at this point


[09-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They spent like 2 minutes trying to make trophy hunters look good.


[09-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo hoo you got bullied online


[09-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turn off your iPhone for a few hours


[09-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like fukk, she tried to make the excuse that they only hunt the past-mating-age males that COULD KILL THE YOUNGER MALES THAT MATE


[09-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, no, males of any species actually can still mate at older ages, all you're doing is taking out a giraffe that likely could've gone on to reproduce and leaving only the younger, likely weaker ones around


[09-Jun-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk this fake conservationalism, only trophy on a wall should be her.


[09-Jun-19 01:31 AM] illumnious#7938
Give up your password or go to jail: Police push legal boundaries to get into cellphones https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/give-your-password-or-go-jail-police-push-legal-boundaries-n1014266

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The police demanded he unlock his cellphone. He didn’t — and s...
“The world should know that what they’re doing out here is crazy,” said a man who refused to share his passcode with police.
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[09-Jun-19 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Jun-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/06/06/full-hong-kong-law-society-urges-govt-not-rush-controversial-extradition-bill-consultations/

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In full: Hong Kong Law Society urges gov't not to rush controversi...
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[09-Jun-19 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://gritpost.com/armed-neo-nazis-crash-detroit-pride-police-escorting/

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Armed Neo-Nazis Crash Detroit Pride with Police Escort
In Detroit, a very old threat to the Pride movement reared its head today as the rainbow flag fell under the shadow of a Swastika.
https://gritpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/D8krjobXUAAcV81.jpg


[09-Jun-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ya think we can get jake and elwood to roll up?


[09-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>with police escort


[09-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What The Fuck


[09-Jun-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
First amendment, yo


[09-Jun-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they filed their paperwork


[09-Jun-19 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the bigger issue is they showed up armed. That right there *isn't* peaceful protest


[09-Jun-19 04:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
I posted this in another chat and one point that came up was that they were probably there to try and provoke something to try and prove "the left" is violent. Because they have blood on their hands. So if a punch got thrown then they could take control of the narrative as the victim.


[09-Jun-19 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
So in this case, as long as nothing happens they've lost.


[09-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
More importantly, nothing happening means yo ucan make *that* article title, and so instead of just not getting a victory, they're actually given a blow because people start to realize there are literal nazis walking about whose intent could hav real consequences.


[09-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad publicity is a real threat to fascism.


[09-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why it's first priority is control of the media.


[09-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, did they actually have guns? I can't see anything other than what looked like a riot shield


[09-Jun-19 06:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they say. But they were there. And that's the major detail.


[09-Jun-19 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How can some say they're american


[09-Jun-19 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a nazi


[09-Jun-19 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't get it


[09-Jun-19 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just so fucking absurd


[09-Jun-19 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How can anyone proudly proclaim they're a snowflake loser bitchnugget?


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The same way you can be a Fascist and a Russian. The logic doesn't matter, Fascism is purely rhetorical. It's politics by rhetoric and not any designated system of ethics or logic.


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing a key thing about how these groups work


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No no


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fascism is an ideology


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
These people don't justify anything to themselves


[09-Jun-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't in it for the ideology


[09-Jun-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideology is a sort of structure and they are its coating


[09-Jun-19 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nazism is specifically grounded on a political party that failed spectacularly


[09-Jun-19 07:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon It is an ideology, but it has no particular logic. Mussolini's Fascist party and Hitler's Nazi parties both.


[09-Jun-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main thing that fascists get out of being in a fascist group is friendship with people with similar experiences and interests


[09-Jun-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like a club


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way it works is you don't actually talk much about the why of not liking different people


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like being a fan of a football team where every player and manager and trainer was outed as a pedophile


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that's what everyone in the group thinks, so you hav to think it to


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, you can still be a fan of whatever aggro shit that football team was into


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just like any gang


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But /that specific team/... dude no


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
from what I've seen of football team fans


[09-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is how it works


[09-Jun-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
people get outed as like, spending their whole career raping children


[09-Jun-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and fans will line up to say they shouldn't get prison time


[09-Jun-19 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should line up against a wall


[09-Jun-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tribalism can be pretty nasty.


[09-Jun-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a rapist, but he's *our* rapist etc.


[09-Jun-19 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I get "alt right" shit existing


[09-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The key thing to understand is these sorts spend less time thinking about it than you do.


[09-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their line of thought ends at feeling smart for seeing thru the liberals' ploy etc. etc.


[09-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But "I'm pro fucking losers" is just, why


[09-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't read history


[09-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't think about implications of what they say


[09-Jun-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
they disengage whenever a real threat to their beliefs comes in


[09-Jun-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire idea of fascism is that you just shouldn't think about it too much


[09-Jun-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
listen to the propaganda, enjoy being one with one another, and hav a giggle together while the jews scream.


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I get the whole circle jerk thing


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, according to science, love for ingroup correlates with hate for the outgroup


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But how hard is it to just be original


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Originality requires thought


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
fascism requires lakk of thought


[09-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a large part of why it's always so derivative


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things that you need to think deeply about don't help it.


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like jesus christ, nazis, their leader was a mangled tooth shortstack that was too much of a bitch to face the end properly


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a little bit of nostalgia goes a long way


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you don't want to get into the weeds


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you take the big symbols


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At least Benito got executed


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Eco-urfascism.pdf


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you use the big names


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you don't talk about what actually happened


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally Umberto-Eco


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and also, you obscure the truth on what happened


[09-Jun-19 07:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ur-Fascism is a short and concise read.


[09-Jun-19 07:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
As long as reading a newspaper article.


[09-Jun-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists don't care, and in general *don't know* that Hitler killed himself


[09-Jun-19 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I BLAME HUGO BOSS FOR EVERYTHING


[09-Jun-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, in summary, fascism is an ideology based around being a little bitch that does whatever daddy says.


[09-Jun-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine them in Hitler S&M gear


[09-Jun-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
being whipped by a snarling Trump


[09-Jun-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is what the ideology is really about.


[09-Jun-19 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's about catharsis derived from the vindication of group hate


[09-Jun-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-awareness is detrimental.


[09-Jun-19 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I know all these things


[09-Jun-19 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've known them since I was 12


[09-Jun-19 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just still astounded by them


[09-Jun-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just remember that when everyone's high on endorphins and all doing the same thing, "no means yes, yes means anal!" sounds like a great think to chant while your buddy takes a video

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[09-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well this took an awkward turn


[09-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
All I'm saying is frat boys are a thing that can help us put things in perspective.


[09-Jun-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And are really a lot similar to fascists in practice.


[09-Jun-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace "nazis" with "drunken frat boys" and the headline will usually still make sense.


[09-Jun-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Is it okay to punch a drunken frat boy?"


[09-Jun-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Drunken frat boys try to disrupt gay pride parade" etc.


[09-Jun-19 07:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can probably neutralize most drunken frat boys with a spray bottle


[09-Jun-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but a lot of them are physically bulky and may fall over in your direction


[09-Jun-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why it's important to use a flag or your fist to direct them as you shout "timber!" and reflect on that thing about being thin as Goering.


[09-Jun-19 07:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Jun-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch there be a news article about a "crazed leftist" using this as a weapon being a sign that both sides are violent.


[09-Jun-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
False equivalency seems to be the entire end goal of stunts like this


[09-Jun-19 07:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it's all rhetoric.


[09-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's rhetoric all the way down.


[09-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if there are any "meme" games on steam about slaughtering alt-righters


[09-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems like every other week there's some "mow down the queers" or "shoot up the SJW press building" game


[09-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe these are people offended about WW2 games portraying nazis as bad lashing out?


[09-Jun-19 08:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48571159

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Albania president cancels local elections
It comes after months of protests in Albania, with calls on Prime Minister Edi Rama to resign.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/14F5A/production/_107305858_hi054527397.jpg


[09-Jun-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
H O X H A I S T    U P R I S I N G    S O O N


[09-Jun-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html
Mexico Agreed to Take Border Actions Months Before Trump Announced...
President Trump announced an agreement just before punishing tariffs went into effect, but it was unclear whether he saw it as truly new concessions or a face-saving way to defuse his tariff threat.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/08/us/08dc-immig-03-promo/08dc-immig-03-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Jun-19 11:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder in the 1980's Mexico took in 40,000 refugees in more or less self-governed camps I believe, because the US was busy using the CIA to buff dumb ass contras.


[09-Jun-19 11:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Legit dumb-ass contras. The only thing they could beat were unarmed mountain villages.


[09-Jun-19 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730456004/more-people-see-climate-change-in-record-floods-and-extreme-weather-will-that-me

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'We All Owe Al Gore An Apology': More People See Climate Change In...
Research shows more people are linking climate change to extreme weather events, like the ongoing flooding in America's heartland. Experts are hoping it also inspires action.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/06/06/dsc01207_wide-83585d06a8b310f253518cf9c221e8bf3cb1e2f7.jpg?s=1400


[09-Jun-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/6/6/sudan_military_council_crackdown_on_sit

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“Massacre” in Sudan: Protesters Continue Call for Civilian Rul...
The death toll in Sudan has risen to more than 100 following a deadly military raid on a nonviolent sit-in in Khartoum Monday morning. According to doctors who have been taking part in the ongoing anti-government uprising, at least 40 bodies were dredged up from the Nile Rive...
https://www.democracynow.org/images/story/14/47814/full_hd/SEG1-Sudan-Getty.jpg


[09-Jun-19 04:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/iran-deploys-2000-new-morality-police-units-to-quell-hijab-rebellion

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Iran deploys 2,000 new ‘morality police’ units to quell hijab ...
The move comes amid a growing backlash by women in the Islamic Republic, hundreds of whom have been arrested for taking off their hijabs in public
https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/iran-1.png


[09-Jun-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/447018-unarmed-civilians-are-sitting-ducks-dont-stand-a-chance-against-bad

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Trump: Unarmed civilians are 'sitting ducks,' don't stand a chance...
President Trump in an interview broadcast early Wednesday argued against gun control, saying that unarmed civilians are "sitting ducks."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mreporttrumppostlead_2.jpg


[09-Jun-19 05:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Counterargument: they already are


[09-Jun-19 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's why we want gun control, you overripe tangerine


[09-Jun-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/06/02/timati-syria-tshirt-russian-army/

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Techwear for War Criminals
Timati’s new clothing collection includes a T-shirt with a target emblazoned on the front and the word “Syria” embossed on the back. Photos courtesy of Buro 24/7 and YZ Timati Sho…
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[09-Jun-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141

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[09-Jun-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/steven-crowder-youtube-speech-carlos-maza-explained-youtube-2019-6

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YouTube's week from hell: How the debate over free speech online e...
The conflict between Steven Crowder, Carlos Maza, and YouTube is the latest controversy over how speech is moderated on large technology platforms.
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[09-Jun-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
> In a response, Crowder acknowledged his use of the language against Maza, insisting that it was comedic and only used when arguing against Maza's ideas, noting that he has never promoted doxxing or targeted harassment and condemned it.


[09-Jun-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
"ur trash who dont deserve to live" "hey that's against youtube's ToS" "haha jk"


[09-Jun-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
http://is2.4chan.org/co/1559948814337.jpg

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[09-Jun-19 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
That is always the right winger YouTube fall-back argument. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wldE_4xjVQ

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IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO
The ultimate anti-prank video. Just incase the video flew over your fucking 12 year old head, this video is making fun of pranks. THANKS JONTRON AND H3H3PROD...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_wldE_4xjVQ/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Jun-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*punches an old woman in the face and people get angry* "It's just a prank bro, come on! She's totally laughing with me... ha haaa"


[09-Jun-19 09:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It was just a joke/prank bro.


[09-Jun-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Y'all just be hatin my prank game, bro"


[09-Jun-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*sets a homeless man on fire* "Straight prankin'!"


[09-Jun-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
_pranks wingbeat_


[09-Jun-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hur


[09-Jun-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
just a prank brah


[09-Jun-19 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey so you know those "make a phone call to your senator" programs (that actually work, unlike moveon.org petitions)? Are there any groups doing this for the big lobbyists themselves?


[09-Jun-19 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, talk to the money


[09-Jun-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
can I donate my spare bullets to the lobbyists


[09-Jun-19 11:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yes I'm fully aware that moveon are themselves a lobbyist group


[09-Jun-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I hear lead poisoning is all the rage these days


[09-Jun-19 11:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if a bunch of people get together and light up the phones at the NRA, or the heritage foundation of all things...


[09-Jun-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
then they'll turn the phones off until tomorrow


[09-Jun-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
or change their number


[09-Jun-19 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
then it becomes a ddos attack doesn't it


[09-Jun-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[09-Jun-19 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they either physically or mentally can't handle people calling in to voice an opinion


[10-Jun-19 06:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/yvirpCAbGSY

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Honest Capitalist Inadvertently Wrecks Capitalism
Here's everything that's wrong with capitalism, in the words of a capitalist. SOURCES: Resources / Sources: Wealth Inequality in America Video: https://www.y...
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[10-Jun-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/09/731070141/after-4-months-venezuelas-border-with-colombia-reopens

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After 4 Months, Venezuela's Border With Colombia Reopens
On Saturday, thousands of Venezuelans crossed the newly reopened border, seeking basic supplies like food and medicine that are scarce in their own country.
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[10-Jun-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, do you know what happend to honkahue?


[10-Jun-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he's just not connected to the server anymore for some reason


[10-Jun-19 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
also, it's dumb that you can't search for a user who disconnected from a server, even by searching mentions


[10-Jun-19 08:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well he's still in mine so he's not dead. I shot him a message.


[10-Jun-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
I had to use the before: search function and scroll back to find his last post (5/31/2019)


[10-Jun-19 06:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/N_JByyU-6go

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This week's news without the bullshit
Download Medal.TV for free here: https://medal.tv/?ref=sir_swag_partner Welcome to the 23rd week of news without the bullshit. This week we’ll be looking at ...
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[10-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/06/comcast-broke-law-445000-times-in-scheme-to-inflate-bills-judge-finds/

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Comcast broke law 445,000 times in scheme to inflate bills, judge ...
Comcast deception leads to refunds and $9M fine, a fraction of the amount sought.
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[10-Jun-19 07:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"YoU CaN TrUsT ISp'S GuYz"- Ajit Pai


[10-Jun-19 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2019/06/08/decision-arizona-border-activist-reno-native-trial-now-jury-scott-warren/1395398001/

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Decision in Arizona border activist, Reno native trial now with jury
Scott Warren was arrested in January 2018 at a building north of the U.S.-Mexico border.
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[10-Jun-19 07:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>$9M fine, a fraction of the amount sought*


[10-Jun-19 07:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>*Washington state attorneys sought more than $171 million [...]*


[10-Jun-19 07:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Literally 5% of the original fine


[10-Jun-19 07:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[10-Jun-19 08:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1138066299958042624?s=20 fake news at PM candidate speeches.

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[10-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Marukomuru the really batshit thing is this is still a record amount


[10-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
companies in the US almost never get fined multiple millions


[10-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
even when they commit that much in fraud


[10-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Part of why companies do this is even when they get caught, it still makes them money


[10-Jun-19 11:30 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wow.


[10-Jun-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Man


[10-Jun-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
If comcast was in europe

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[11-Jun-19 12:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
probably wouldn't exist with practices like this lol


[11-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure comcast would've been broken up a decade ago if it were in europe


[11-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Broken up? The execs would be in fukking jail.


[11-Jun-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.theroot.com/the-caucasian-panthers-meet-the-rednecks-armed-ready-1821943540

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The Caucasian Panthers: Meet the Rednecks Armed, Ready and ’Bout...
On Dec. 4, 1969, law enforcement officers raided a home at 2337 Monroe St. in Chicago. First they killed Mark Clark, who sat by the door with a shotgun. Then they trained their gunfire on the south bedroom and opened fire. When the cops stopped firing, they pulled the 21-year...
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[11-Jun-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/brazil-car-wash-prosecutors-workers-party-lula/

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Exclusive: Brazil’s Top Prosecutors Who Indicted Lula Schemed in...
A massive archive exclusively provided to The Intercept confirms long-held suspicions about the politicized motives and deceit of Brazil’s corruption investigators.
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[11-Jun-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When all this political fanfare in Brazil for the past three years has been practically for nothing as it was all just a ploy by the rich elites to gain back power


[11-Jun-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks


[11-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[11-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
they elected someone more corrupt


[11-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
under the pretense of being less corrupt


[11-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was pretty obvious what the deal was


[11-Jun-19 01:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

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[11-Jun-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro plz legalize guns so the Movimento dos Sem Terra can form militias and gun down the landlords


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 Bolsonaro accidently becomes the greatest left-wing revolutionary ever


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brazilians eat it up, too


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Purely by being a moron


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Brazilian like this shit


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie actually, there's evidence that Bolso's supporter base is shrinking


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
lmao Ballsack's rating tanked


[11-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[11-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's done its job


[11-Jun-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We must remember that Bolsonaro was mostly elected past year on his very vague promise of ending corruption, and practically that alone


[11-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it only needed Brazilians to hate Lula's party until the election was too far over to call out for being corrupt


[11-Jun-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now that he and his cronies are proving themselves just as corrupt, one cannot fathom how pissed off Brazilians will be in the next three years


[11-Jun-19 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Last I checked Lula and his party is still pretty popular.


[11-Jun-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter


[11-Jun-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro's already pretty damn far-right, so... unless Brazilians elect a *literal* nazi, there's nowhere for the far-right to go in our country once he fails


[11-Jun-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
all that will come next at most is they'll re-elect Lula's party


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
which will pull strings to prevent any progressives from reforming the criminal justice system to stop being a way to do de facto coups


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lula?


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lula is innocent lmao


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read the article, Nebbie, he was 100% framed


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A scapegoat


[11-Jun-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point


[11-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that in all of this, it's just a continual game


[11-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No actual true reform can happen.


[11-Jun-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe so


[11-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best-case scenario is that Lula's party gets bakk in power and doesn't need to stoop to the same lows.


[11-Jun-19 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think the PT party will tbh, they've already experienced a lot of abuse and their voterbase has been reshaped by it


[11-Jun-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I personally don't think Lula should become president of Brazil again tbh


[11-Jun-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's too old and tired to come back for the job


[11-Jun-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But there can be someone else from his party who's just as experienced, like Fernando Haddad or Manuela D'Ávila, who disputed last year's election together as co runners


[11-Jun-19 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
if only Honkahue were here


[11-Jun-19 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-10/facebook-has-banned-word-honk-violating-their-community-standards

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Facebook Has Banned The Word "Honk" For Violating Their Community ...
Bad news today for those who love to chat on Facebook about cars, especially when you need to  your horn...
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[11-Jun-19 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[11-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
"As we drift further into an amalgam of Idiocracy mixed with A Brave New World, the banning of the word "honk" - attributed to the "clown world" meme, a nihilistic joke that many are adopting to protest the last few years of liberal censorship - has been the next inevitable step toward total overreach by our new silicon valley overlords. "


[11-Jun-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
checked the reference on the piece and it's some guy's twitter and infowars


[11-Jun-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
so take that with a giant chunk of potassium chloride


[11-Jun-19 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
America did this to itself by issuing in the era of the NeoLiberal and market solutions for all problems.


[11-Jun-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/S75idOJ.png

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Epic gamer moment
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[11-Jun-19 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
-_-


[11-Jun-19 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon are you having a _gamer moment_ too


[11-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Alexlayer#2336
Epic? More like shameful.


[11-Jun-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I loathe gamers


[11-Jun-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I loathe anyone that identifies as anything


[11-Jun-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If your first response to "who are you?" is "GROUP X" rather than "my name", then eeech


[11-Jun-19 04:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The society we live in smh


[11-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I hate this month for the same reason so many memes and posts have already pointed out


[11-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suddenly we all gay now


[11-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EXCEPT IN RUSSIA OR CHINA OR SUADI ARABIA


[11-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta make sure we're only pro-x in markets where x is trending and not where x is illegal


[11-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And only be so during the month where it's popular


[11-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't give the impression we /actually/ care for realsies


[11-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ech


[11-Jun-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon be careful with that facts and logic


[11-Jun-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
you might hurt ben shapiro's feelings


[11-Jun-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
R A I N B O W   C A P I T A L I S M


[11-Jun-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I identify as anything


[11-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
I always kinda thought that it was kinda dumb to tie yourself to one specific thing to identify as


[11-Jun-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/B2mHh54

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Cakeday story of a lurker
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[11-Jun-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr murican moves to bulgaria to make babies


[11-Jun-19 09:40 AM] ISamusI#5581
Hm. What’s the significance?


[11-Jun-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
well, besides being a lot harder to move from the US to bulgaria than it is to move from bulgaria to the US, despite bulgaria having an abysmal salary opportunity, it's apparently much cheaper and easier to raise a baby there than the US


[11-Jun-19 09:54 AM] ISamusI#5581
Interesting.


[11-Jun-19 10:21 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Living in Bulgaria is cheap


[11-Jun-19 12:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/benjaminbutter/status/1138170389522239488

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Not sure it was the best branding decision for Matt Hancock to launch his leadership bid in front of the word ‘cock’ at head height with a load of arrows pointing at himself.
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[11-Jun-19 12:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure anyone with "cock" anywhere in their name shouldn't run. Same applies to anything similar in not only English but any other language


[11-Jun-19 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow wow reppy looks so pretty


[11-Jun-19 01:13 PM] ononim#8141
||did you kink it to him||


[11-Jun-19 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
no, he wasn't on


[11-Jun-19 04:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1138445389709885445?s=21

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Why did the Democrats run if they didn’t want to do things?” @SenRickScott
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[11-Jun-19 05:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember 2013?


[11-Jun-19 05:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither does the GOP


[11-Jun-19 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48600233

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Accused Russian reporter to go free after outcry
Drugs charges against investigative reporter Ivan Golunov are dropped after newspapers unite in defence.
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[11-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/11/mike-pence-confirms-reports-pride-flag-banned-embassies/1417031001/

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Mike Pence says banning pride flags at US embassies is 'the right ...
Pence said that he was aware of reports that only the American flag was allowed to be flown, and added, 'I support that.'
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[11-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/politics/donald-trump-cnbc-tariffs-china-mexico/index.html

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The 27 most dubious lines from Donald Trump's CNBC phone interview
President Donald Trump has no public events on his schedule today, which means he's got plenty of free time. And he used some of that time Monday morning to call into CNBC's "Squawk Box" to talk about his now-ended tariff threat against Mexico and the ongoing trade war with C...
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[11-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
>"Well, I guess he's not so brilliant. Look, without tariffs, we would be captive to every country, and we have been for many years."


[11-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
>Trump directly followed Myron Brilliant, the head of international affairs at the Chamber of Commerce, on the show. Brilliant bashed Trump's "weaponization of tariffs." And so Trump, the President of the United States, bashed him. See, the guy's last name is "Brilliant" and Trump said he's not so brilliant ... and away we go!


[11-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
>"Now, people haven't used tariffs, but tariffs are a beautiful thing when you're the piggy bank, when you have all the money."


[11-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
dafuq


[11-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
is trump calling himself a pig


[11-Jun-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔 https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/1138193590117654528

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BIG scoop from @donnydonny at @Sludge: As McConnell blocks all legislation, even from R's, to increase election security in wake of unprecedented hacking in '16 and '18, he takes campaign cash from lobbyists of voting machine companies. https://t.co/RYGpGcWXnG
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[11-Jun-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, he requires cheating to win any form of election at this point. of course he;s going to block anti ballot stuffing laws


[11-Jun-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/victim-compensation-fund-jon-stewart-lashes-out-at-house-hearing-on-911-responders-bill-you-should-be-ashamed-of/

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Jon Stewart lashes out at hearing on 9/11 responders bill: "You sh...
"Accountability appears to not be something that occurs in this chamber," Stewart admonished at hearing on 9/11 responders bill
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[11-Jun-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell isn't a turtle, he's a traitor.


[11-Jun-19 09:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/fox-hunter-dog-eat-cubs-animal-ban-paul-oliver-trial-court-a8953201.html

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Fox hunter who fed live fox cubs to his dogs avoids ban on keeping...
'To disqualify them from being in control of animals would cause them to lose their current employment and any hope of future work,' says sentencing judge
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[11-Jun-19 09:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Fuck the court.


[11-Jun-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Jun-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chance of recurrence minimal? MINIMAL?


[11-Jun-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That court just plain doesn't want to agree with animal rights activists.


[11-Jun-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're ensuring this will happen again.


[11-Jun-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just fukking said bloodsport hunting should be allowed to continue to make those people money.


[11-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if I make a slavery business then I can't be sent to jail and prohibited from owning slaves.


[11-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it's my livelihood.


[11-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mitch-mcconnell-elaine-chao-grants-us-department-transportation-funding-78m-a8952666.html

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US 'now a full-fledged banana republic' after Mitch McConnell wife...
Transport secretary reportedly designated special liaison to help husband's state prepare funding applications
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[12-Jun-19 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/11/africa/botswana-lgbtq-ruling-intl/index.html

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Botswana scraps gay sex laws in big victory for LGBTQ rights in Africa
Botswana's High Court has overturned a colonial-era law criminalizing consensual same-sex relations in a landmark victory for Africa's LGBTQ movements.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190611154503-06-botswana-gay-sex-ruling-0611-super-tease.jpg


[12-Jun-19 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: a lot of anti-LGBT discrimination laws around the third world have their origin in British colonial policy


[12-Jun-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, Pakistani courts have recently approved measures granting more rights to LGBT people because the laws that were in place were from the English colonial period


[12-Jun-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/849773699368501249?s=19

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I'm reading about the history of Pepsi, fascinating stuff:
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[12-Jun-19 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
🤣


[12-Jun-19 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not real tho


[12-Jun-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, given that holocaust-guilty Bayer is still a significant player in the pharmaceutics industry, it wouldn't be surprising if that was actually true


[12-Jun-19 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
What is real are the Colombian corpse trains that carried away the dead plantation strikers who worked for either Coke of Chiquita


[12-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, mcconnell should be the one put on trial by the house


[12-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
too bad there's no process for impeaching senators


[12-Jun-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh also politico was biased in its report? :ponythinking:


[12-Jun-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know, politico. The oft-cited example of an unbiased news source


[12-Jun-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
To the right, anything not repeating Trump's exact words is biased.


[12-Jun-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point they may as well call out Fox News for its clearly left wing agenda.


[12-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Quoting him directly isn't enough either


[12-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You need a Fox pundit to say it.


[12-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/us/politics/barr-mcgahn-subpoena.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/us/politics/barr-mcgahn-subpoena.html
House Approves Court Action to Enforce Democrats’ Subpoenas
The House voted on Tuesday to authorize its committees to go directly to court to enforce subpoenas that the Trump administration is resisting or ignoring.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/11/us/politics/11dc-contempt/11dc-contempt-facebookJumbo.jpg


[12-Jun-19 02:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey that's a thing


[12-Jun-19 02:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wish I could read this article though. Shame on me for not wanting my browser tracked


[12-Jun-19 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile https://www.apnews.com/d847d8d842c74cd29e8e1df5de7ca198

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Tech on trial: House mulls antitrust help for news industry
WASHINGTON (AP) — Members of both parties on Tuesday suggested legislation may be necessary for the financially-struggling U.S. news industry as lawmakers began a bipartisan investigation into the...
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[12-Jun-19 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This "partial solution" is the wrong half of the half measure imo


[12-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ivan-golunov-russian-journalist-beaten-drug-charges-dropped-today-2019-06-11/

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Drug charges dropped against Russian journalist Ivan Golunov, who ...
In a show of rare solidarity, Russian media outlets rallied to defend the investigative reporter who said his detention was retribution for his work
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/06/11/f0947c05-2f2f-4eba-bf9b-673f6f31c58e/thumbnail/1200x630/00e34d95c0aed3db1127379ad4b532c1/ivan-golunov-1148542047.jpg


[12-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
>The unexpected move came after days of unprecedented support for Golunov from Russia's normally fragmented media community. Large crowds had picketed outside Moscow police headquarters day and night, and dozens of media outlets demanded his release, joined by hundreds of prominent individual journalists, artists, musicians and politicians.


[12-Jun-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
the secret to holding power in a quasi-dictatorship like russia is knowing which battles to choose


[12-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
>As public outcry over his arrest mounted, police released 10 photos of what they claimed was a drug lab in Golunov's apartment. The move was unusual; Russian law enforcement rarely reveal evidence in this manner. Golunov's friends, who know his apartment, said that only one of the 10 photos actually showed his home.


[12-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
>Several hours later the police deleted the photos, admitting that most of them were taken in a different place. Public support for Golunov grew.


[12-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
man, they can't even set up false evidence correctly


[12-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
how does russia stay a dictatorship with police this incompetent


[12-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's drunk.


[12-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire country is run by incompetence at every level.


[12-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blatant corruption is allowed by incompetent anti-corruption that's also itself corrupt.


[12-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day nobody cares as long as they get their slice of the pie.


[12-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the hate for Putin is that the pie is shrinking.


[12-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause of aftershokks of WWII and the massive recession from the transition to fake democry from fake fake democracy.


[12-Jun-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia literally has a lower GDP than Canada now


[12-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason it's relevant is that Russia's entire strategy is to invest in diplomats who hav no scruples first, and all other things second.


[12-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has incredible diplomatic power, to the point it likely is more influential than the US


[12-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only thing keeping it down right now is much of the EU being skeptical and not a fan of constant violations of sovereignty by Russian agents.


[12-Jun-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/trump-asserts-executive-privilege-to-block-access-to-census-documents-1361784

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/trump-asserts-executive-privilege-to-block-access-to-census-documents-1361784
Trump asserts executive privilege to block access to census documents
The president took the aggressive step as the House Oversight panel began proceedings to hold William Barr and Wilbur Ross in contempt.
https://static.politico.com/cf/91/58e0a61847f5916420814c58a3a4/190612-donald-trump-2-gty-773.jpg


[12-Jun-19 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Watch tRump moving his mouth https://www.pscp.tv/w/b9EmwjFwempNQmtBeXFhRWR8MVlxS0RCWGR6cVZKVpk-l61AAIlgcVZLJPfYX7a1gBzD3xtFPRR0YxEtOxMG?t=11m38s

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ABC News @ABC
HAPPENING NOW: Pres. Trump holds bilateral meeting with Polish president in the Oval Office.
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[12-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So is Barr in contempt or not


[12-Jun-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not


[12-Jun-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The House is gonna try


[12-Jun-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at this point the constitution is out the window and in a puddle on the ground


[12-Jun-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The executive branch is using every power it possibly can to prevent the legislative from having its authority.


[12-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is how dictatorships start


[12-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Judiciary better be fast to stop this.


[12-Jun-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1138552927818330113?s=21

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Trump: "I just received a beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un, it was a very personal, very warm, very nice letter." What in the flying F**K!  https://t.co/KrmgiYt5Hw
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[12-Jun-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://nypost.com/2019/06/12/house-panel-unanimously-passes-9-11-victims-fund-bill-after-jon-stewart-shaming/

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https://nypost.com/2019/06/12/house-panel-unanimously-passes-9-11-victims-fund-bill-after-jon-stewart-shaming/
House panel unanimously passes 9/11 victims fund bill after Jon St...
WASHINGTON — The bill that permanently authorizes the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund passed out of the House Judiciary Committee unanimously on Wednesday. The move comes a day after former “The Dail…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/061219-stewart2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[12-Jun-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's now up to McConnell


[12-Jun-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Shame


[12-Jun-19 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The House is absolutely gonna vote yes, Democrats are the main proponents of...*looks closely*..."funding to prevent the horrible, slow deaths of people who risked their lives to save others from the largest terror attack in American history"


[12-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the Republican party


[12-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They make big, big talk all the time about things like this, about supporting American heros


[12-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
then when it comes to funding they decide it's better to shovel funds to coal companies that poison people.


[12-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447972-biden-leads-trump-by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll

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Biden leads Trump by 'landslide proportions' in new national poll
Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 13 points nationally, according to the latest Quinnipiac University survey.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/joe_biden_05182019.jpg


[12-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh


[12-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't believe them anymore


[12-Jun-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/12/trumps-secret-mexico-deal-over-migrants-captured-photographer/1429184001/

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Trump waved an alleged 'secret' Mexico deal around. A photographer...
When Trump started waving around what he called his "secret agreement," a photographer managed to get a picture of it at just the right angle.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/06/12/USAT/595f5db2-7aec-496e-a852-964c019a5c2d-AP_Trump_4.JPG?crop=2222,1243,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[12-Jun-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/06/12/circassian-activist-martin-kochesoko-arrested-in-drugs-frame-up/

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https://therussianreader.com/2019/06/12/circassian-activist-martin-kochesoko-arrested-in-drugs-frame-up/
Circassian Activist Martin Kochesoko Arrested in Drugs Frame-Up
Shown here protesting a law bill that would make Russia’s minority languages an elective part of the curriculum, Circassian grassroots activist Martin Kochesoko was detained and charged with …
https://therussianreader.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/martin-2.jpg


[12-Jun-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems he's gonna force Mexico into a third-country agreement


[12-Jun-19 09:25 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jun-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hah https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/448162-gop-pollster-luntz-majority-of-younger-republicans-worried-by-party-stance-on-climate-change

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GOP pollster Luntz: Majority of younger Republicans worried by par...
Prominent GOP pollster Frank Luntz is warning Republican lawmakers that the public's views on climate change are shifting and that ignoring the issue could cost them important votes at the ballot box.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/luntzfrank_getty.jpg


[12-Jun-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republican voters mad that the party ceded climate change progress to Dems


[12-Jun-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
bitch what did you think you were voting for?


[12-Jun-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr and Ross held in contempt


[12-Jun-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't it need to be done by all of congress


[12-Jun-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Full House vote


[12-Jun-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it includes criminal contempt


[12-Jun-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it was only civil contempt


[13-Jun-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>biden


[13-Jun-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh boy, here we go again


[13-Jun-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry, he'll usher in a new era of progress as soon as he calls up the lobbyists and they say that corporate signed off on the particulars.


[13-Jun-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No medicare for all, but you can hav election day also be veteran's day! And sorry, but letting Polish people come without a visa is unamerican cause they're not really people, but you can legally smoke up to 5 ounces of pot a day, citizen!


[13-Jun-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember to not question the military-industrial complex while you campaign for trans rights.


[13-Jun-19 12:30 AM] Lilly#4737
How it feels to live in west and east Europe

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[13-Jun-19 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not sure what the joke is but ok


[13-Jun-19 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, doesn't Russia also have a sizeable Muslim minority?


[13-Jun-19 01:05 AM] Lilly#4737
Ohh


[13-Jun-19 01:05 AM] Lilly#4737
We have not minority


[13-Jun-19 01:06 AM] Lilly#4737
We have Caucasians


[13-Jun-19 01:06 AM] Lilly#4737
They are Muslims


[13-Jun-19 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I still don't get the joke either


[13-Jun-19 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it supposed to be critical of western europe's acceptance towards Muslim immigrants while eastern europe remains full of clean likeable nazis with well kept beards? Or is it supposed to be a "muslim extremists and nazis are the same" argument?


[13-Jun-19 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tell me, i'm really not sure


[13-Jun-19 01:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Extreme right wingers all the same no matter their race or nationality. ☮


[13-Jun-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
that's why conservatives in the US are okay with allying with the ultraconservative saudi arabia to attack the slightly less conservative iran


[13-Jun-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
and don't actually mind being neutral with or even allied with russia anymore because they aren't "communist" anymore


[13-Jun-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
they only hated the USSR during the cold war because it was a credible threat to US dominance


[13-Jun-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
it's kinda funny that the US is imploding right now because of the lack of any credible outside threat


[13-Jun-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives are looking for things to get the rest of the country to hate (like china and iran), but no one's biting


[13-Jun-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
iran hates the US because the CIA overthrew their democratically elected president because the UK's GCHQ lied about them wanting to ally with the USSR, and the CIA didn't bother to check if the GCHQ was lying or not before overthrowing him


[13-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that people aren't biting


[13-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that conservatives aren't anymore unified on what to hate


[13-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They generally agree they hate the blakks but they can't say it publicly


[13-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that can only work so long


[13-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can say they hate the mexicans, of course, and that works a little better, but it can hemorrhage support in key areas


[13-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't say they hate Russia, as then Trump loses support


[13-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
China and Iran are tempting targets, but they're so busy drumming up hate for *gays* right now (at the worst time to) that they just can't


[13-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Dems are pretty much united against Russia


[13-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very odd spot to be in.


[13-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/06/12/spanish_laliga_app_gdpr_fine/

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Own goal: $280,000 GDPR fine for soccer app that snooped on fans' ...
La Liga says privacy watchdog is Barca-ing up the wrong tree
https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/09/24/soccer.jpg


[13-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
what's ironic is that my mom thought that the US should support young iranian rebels who wanted to overthrow their autocratic government, up until the point that I mentioned that those same iranian youths hate the US


[13-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
then she said "well, maybe they deserve their autocratic government then"


[13-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(that scummy app has been on spanish news every so often for a year now)


[13-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(basically, it triggers at essentially random and starts recording you and everyone around you and sending it to some office somewhere to analyze if you're in a location where you can hear a football match being played and there is no license for a bar etc. to show it)


[13-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
automated snitching


[13-Jun-19 02:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it wasn't immediately found to break some kind of law because...


[13-Jun-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GDPR didn't exist when it launched and the app did ask you for location and mic access rights on installing it


[13-Jun-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not sure what the legality for recordings is in Spain, if they need consent of all parties involved or just that of the recorder


[13-Jun-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I was a judge I wouldn't consider the owner of the phone to hav given consent


[13-Jun-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's normally a pretty big foul to do stuff you wouldn't expect without like, a huge disclaimer that asks


[13-Jun-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Soon enough, we'll have AR glasses that'll track if you've seen potentially pirated content and snitch to google


[13-Jun-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
google/whoever paid a license


[13-Jun-19 02:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
AR glasses that detect you viewing illegial content on Pixiv, but they can't do anything about it because all the text is in Chinese


[13-Jun-19 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/trump-asserts-executive-privilege-to-block-access-to-census-documents-1361784

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House panel votes to hold Barr, Ross in contempt
The move comes after Trump asserted executive privilege to block the release of documents on adding a citizenship question to the census.
https://static.politico.com/a4/90/799d384f4d42818753e3be8f6605/190612-barr-gty-773.jpg


[13-Jun-19 02:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...no one corrected me on Pixiv being Japanese and not Chinese, so I can't follow up with "See? They can't tell the difference either." 😔


[13-Jun-19 02:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, I can't understand a word on pixiv


[13-Jun-19 02:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if it was chinese, I might understand like 20% of it


[13-Jun-19 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pixiv has possibly one of the worst site designs since 15yos were allowed on Geocities


[13-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It logging you off after approx. 5 minutes doesn't help


[13-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah I see TSP also has particular tastes in illegial content. 👀


[13-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things I fear the most when doing a reverse search, in order:
Pinterest
Pixiv
Completely random obscure SK imageboard with a UX designed by a 1990s adventure game designer


[13-Jun-19 02:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I don't really like Pixiv doing the whole "yeah let's expand this imageset within the same wndow" now


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I haven't even looked at pixiv for any more than 20 minutes


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
all I know is those 20 minutes were very confusing


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But even that is **miles** better than >*Pintrest*


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
cursed name


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any site that fucks with getting the damn image file is a bad site


[13-Jun-19 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at Twitter_


[13-Jun-19 02:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Pixiv at least lets you get the image as intended


[13-Jun-19 02:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...unless its a Ugiora; good luck with that :shrugpony:


[13-Jun-19 02:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
kinda wished Derpi's interface could be used for things that aren't limited to just pones


[13-Jun-19 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Only if you're logged in and open the gallery and then open in a new damned window


[13-Jun-19 02:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what on earth is an ugiora


[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
hey now I'm working on it


[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
give me money and I'll work on it harder

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[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
@IAmADeliciousPotato Animated image


[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.patreon.com/byteslice

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[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
o


[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pay for an insight into madness


[13-Jun-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DOUBLE IN


[13-Jun-19 02:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
isn't that just a... gif?


[13-Jun-19 02:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Pretty much, but you can't directly save the image as a whole from Pixiv.


[13-Jun-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NotADeliciousPotato: isn't that just a... gif?


[13-Jun-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(twitter cackling in the background)


[13-Jun-19 02:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Twitter gifs be like "no you can't just *save* this image what's wrong with you"


[13-Jun-19 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, you thought this image we explicitly say is a GIF is actually a GIF? LMAO, IT'S AN MP4, HAVE FUN FINDING THE RESOURCE YOU PLEB"


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
it's an mp4 loaded with HLS


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
means you actually get an m3u8


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
which is a stream index file and you have to use _another_ tool to get the video tracks


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what the fuck


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
just why not make a


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
like ffmpeg


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I dunno


[13-Jun-19 02:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
*download button*


[13-Jun-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
but potato


[13-Jun-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
that might cost money


[13-Jun-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and lower engagement


[13-Jun-19 02:29 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Because downloading content puts strain on the servers, unlike repeatedly reloading the same page over and over


[13-Jun-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, I haven't been logged out of pixiv since I signed up for it like 3 years ago


[13-Jun-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
got tired of seeing pixiv links in the source and being unable to check the source for higher resolution or whatever


[13-Jun-19 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's never kept me logged in for over a few hours, regardless of which browser I try


[13-Jun-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Jun-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hehe, DUU


[13-Jun-19 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
a b s u r d i s t   p o l i t i c s


[13-Jun-19 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-79-how-neutral-experts-took-over-trumps-iran-policy

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https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-79-how-neutral-experts-took-over-trumps-iran-policy
Episode 79: How 'Neutral' 'Experts' Took Over Trump's Iran Policy
“Satellite Images Raise Questions About Iran Threat, Experts Say,” worries The Daily Beast. “Iran And Trading Partners Will Find Ways To Skirt Sanctions, Analysts Say,” frets NPR. “Iran uses proxies t
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[13-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/12/politics/donald-trump-abc-political-dirt-foreign-country-rivals/index.html

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Trump says he would accept dirt on political rivals from foreign g...
President Donald Trump says he would listen if a foreign government approached him with damaging information about a political rival -- and wouldn't necessarily report the contact to the FBI.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170410121034-trump-super-tease.jpg


[13-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48618484

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Hong Kong in shock after anti-extradition violence
Authorities have shut some government offices after the worst violence in the territory for decades.
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[13-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
turns out people really don't want a foreign autocratic government to be able to jail people who disagree with the foreign government


[13-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if someone in canada could be arrested and extradited to the US because they posted something criticizing the US government


[13-Jun-19 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
That can happen


[13-Jun-19 12:10 PM] Lilly#4737

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[13-Jun-19 03:11 PM] ononim#8141
this is satire site, but don't worry we live in hell world clwon timeline regardless


[13-Jun-19 03:11 PM] ononim#8141
~~nazies can take "clown" world" form my dead cold hands~~


[13-Jun-19 03:16 PM] Lilly#4737
@ononim anyway it's funny


[13-Jun-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Honk


[13-Jun-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_is global banned from discord_


[13-Jun-19 03:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
wow guys I can't believe derpibooru is a HATE SITE 😠 😠 😡


[13-Jun-19 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Incredible Honk


[13-Jun-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Honk of the Honks: Return of the honk


[13-Jun-19 03:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Okay but seriously, when is Overwatch League going to ban "honk"? I need to mark my calendar for this occasion.


[13-Jun-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll be waiting for 2 or 3 decades


[13-Jun-19 03:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every day that passes there's another right of gamers that's taken away by society smh


[13-Jun-19 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
@Marukomuru because clown pepe was another quick fad internet nazies come through


[13-Jun-19 03:54 PM] Mikey#7286
Right wingers have a weird definition of "humor" when they use le edgy 4chan maymays


[13-Jun-19 03:55 PM] Mikey#7286
😂 👌


[13-Jun-19 03:55 PM] Mikey#7286
"lol can't leftists take a joke"


[13-Jun-19 04:07 PM] Lilly#4737
but it's funny


[13-Jun-19 04:07 PM] Lilly#4737
in russian, word "leftist" is consonant with the word "puke"


[13-Jun-19 04:08 PM] Lilly#4737
Левак
Блевак


[13-Jun-19 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
Caw of the Caws: Return of the Caw


[13-Jun-19 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
caw caw caw caw


[13-Jun-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oil-tanker-attack-fire-gulf-of-oman-likely-iran-us-official-says-today-2019-06-13-live-updates/

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U.S. official says "highly likely" Iran behind new tanker attacks ...
U.S. Navy said it was aiding both and a U.S. Defense Dept. source says Iran is the "likely" source of the attacks
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[13-Jun-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time now


[13-Jun-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
>U.S. officials pushing back against Iranian claims to have rescued crew members.  According to U.S. officials, the crewmen Iran "rescued" were given no choice about boarding an Iranian vessel.  At last report, they were still in Iranian hands, so fine line between rescued and detained.


[13-Jun-19 05:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The poor editing on that is slightly suspicious.


[13-Jun-19 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
editing?


[13-Jun-19 05:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sentence's grammar is wrong.


[13-Jun-19 05:09 PM] Crow#5457
oh, you mean the text


[13-Jun-19 05:09 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's kinda weird


[13-Jun-19 05:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like part of the first draft or an editor's note got into the final article.


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Possible that an editor was very hasty to try play up certain aspects of the story.


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
probably pushed the article out before editing it because of what it is


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
one of those super quickly developing stories


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really not a fan of the usual shit where US and enemy of the US both accuse each other


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
there needs to be some kind of third party


[13-Jun-19 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the US rescued one crew, while iran rescued the other


[13-Jun-19 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would not be too surprised if Trump did a false flag here.


[13-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
apparently both tankers were carrying "japanese-related cargo", and japan's president was just visiting iran as it happened


[13-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's quite possible is


[13-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
>The attacks come amid heightened tension between Washington and Tehran, and the timing is senstitive; it transpired just as the Japanese leader was visiting Iran to try and rekindle diplomacy to ease the standoff. Japan's Trade Ministry said the two vessels struck on Thursday were carrying "Japan-related cargo."


[13-Jun-19 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
the previous 4 incidents were Iran trying to poke at the Saudis


[13-Jun-19 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of the incident that sparked the Vietnam War in 1964 tbh


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As shady as that one


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that the US staged these 2 because of Japan


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That incident didn't hav any photos etc, there were no Vietnamese vessels


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was completely made up.


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
This definitely had real vessels with people on them


[13-Jun-19 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the US very likely planted bombs on them


[13-Jun-19 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a19158567/what-is-rape/

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Sometimes You Make Your Rapist Breakfast
Inside the controversial—and often confusing—"tending instinct" of women.
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[13-Jun-19 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
>Taylor found that the stress response in women produced much lower adrenaline and testosterone than in men. Women felt less fear when threatened, and because of that, they responded differently than the old punch and run. They called this new response “befriend and tend.” Often, women calm their aggressors down, and try to tend to the emotional needs of themselves and others, instead of escalating by violence, or attempting to flee.


[13-Jun-19 05:21 PM] Crow#5457
humanity is such a fucked up species


[13-Jun-19 05:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, I don't think it's all that outside what you'd expect for a successful social species.


[13-Jun-19 06:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
This thread is beautiful. https://twitter.com/RaeofSun95/status/1138777079233880064

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WELL, SINCE CYBERPUNK 2077 CANT SHUT THE FUCK UP, ILL GIVE YOU SOME CONFIRMED DETAILS: In the demo you fight not one but TWO gangs of Black People. One of Hatians called "The Voodoo Boys", One of people obsessed with "Juice" called "The Animals"
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[13-Jun-19 07:05 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/pdchina/status/1139215352875966464?s=21

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Human worldwide could be ingesting 5g of #microscopic #plastic particles every week, equivalent in weight to a credit card: study
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[13-Jun-19 07:22 PM] Lilly#4737
@Marukomuru how to pre-order it?

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[13-Jun-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1138936855573999616?s=19

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ABC News (@ABC)
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EXCLUSIVE: Pres. Trump tells @GStephanopoulos he wouldn't necessarily alert the FBI if approached by foreign figures with information on his 2020 opponent: "It’s not an interference. They have information. I think I’d take it." https://t.co/yWRxMOaFqW https://t.co/qwLw...
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[13-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Hoo boy


[13-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The only thing spookier than a skeleton inside you is a credit card 😱💰💸


[13-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Mikey#7286
But


[13-Jun-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
But


[13-Jun-19 08:23 PM] Mikey#7286
NO COLLUSION


[13-Jun-19 08:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48622001

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Trump in 'Prince of Whales' Twitter gaffe
Donald Trump says he speaks with "foreign governments" every day, including the "Prince of Whales".
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[13-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[13-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/BoyReattie/status/1139232150904082434?s=19

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@realDonaldTrump
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[13-Jun-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-uk-eu-economy-impact-tory-leadership-boris-johnson-a8957366.html

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EU confidence that the UK would come out far worse is bad news for Tory leadership candidates planning brinkmanship
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[13-Jun-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-city-votes-make-itself-sanctuary-city-unborn-bans-abortion-city-limits-1443728

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Texas city council votes to make town a "sanctuary city of the unb...
"We decided to take things into our own hands and that we have got to do something to protect our cities and to protect the unborn children."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1503411/abortion-protest.jpg


[13-Jun-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure texas knows what a sanctuary city is


[13-Jun-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Texas city has imposed an abortion ban inside its city limits, following a trend of abortion laws that have been introduced across the United States.

The Waskom City Council, a five-person panel made up of men, voted on the ordinance on Tuesday. It passed unanimously.

According to KETK-TV, the ordinance was adopted following the passage of an abortion bill in Louisiana which bans most abortions after six weeks. Louisiana's bill is one of several so-called fetal heartbeat bills, with others passed in Missouri, Mississippi, Georgia and Alabama, among others.

Anti-abortion activist Mark Lee Dickson, who runs the group East Texas Right to Life, told KETK that if Louisiana's bill eliminated abortion clinics in the state, concern was that a clinic could open in Waskom.

"We decided to take things into our own hands and that we have got to do something to protect our cities and to protect the unborn children," Dickson told KETK.

Waskom, which has just over 2,200 residents, is situated on the Louisiana border and just 20 miles from Shreveport, Louisiana.


[13-Jun-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@PwnyPony "Prince of Whales" was a nickname for George IV during the Regency Era, he was really fat


[13-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://youtu.be/W6-HHtq0mXU

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Hong Kong Extradition Bill Prompts Massive Worldwide Protests
Hong Kong Extradition Bill Prompts Massive Worldwide Protests Over a million people filled the streets of Hong Kong on Sunday over a proposed bill that would...
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[13-Jun-19 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh he's gone full in on his branding™ now eh


[13-Jun-19 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
bit of a detour from the topic but yeah, I find it odd how he worked "tirelessly" on that brand for 4 years and it wasn't until the game came out that I'd even heard of it


[13-Jun-19 10:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1139184474741202945

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Rick Wiles is warning you not to eat an Impossible Burger because they are part of a satanic plot to change human DNA and "create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.” https://t.co/1w2ffOWcAP
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[13-Jun-19 10:31 PM] ononim#8141
~~and ye Hong Kong thing is fucked~~


[13-Jun-19 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
See I could've seen it if they'd played the frankenfood angle but I guess that's just not good enough for today's conspiracy theorists


[13-Jun-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you're saying if I eat it, I'll become a supersoldier that slays old white christian bigots?


[13-Jun-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sign me up.


[13-Jun-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hope tho they burn my soul instead of throw it uselessly into the trash. Discarded souls are really bad for the ecto-environment.


[13-Jun-19 11:08 PM] moonatik#3676
sarah sanders
:crabrave:
is gone


[13-Jun-19 11:08 PM] moonatik#3676
finally i can stop getting confused whenever a lefty i know says "ugh i can't stand sanders all they do is just lie and tow trump's line"


[13-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
inb4 Trump hires new press secretary whose last name is Warren


[13-Jun-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump fired sanders, or did she finally have a mental break down followed by a stroke?


[13-Jun-19 11:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[13-Jun-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4ef006278bc044cb88b60375e0129462

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Trump says Sarah Sanders to leave White House at end of June
WASHINGTON (AP) — White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, whose tenure was marked by a breakdown in regular press briefings and questions about the administration's credibility, as well as her...
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[13-Jun-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump announced her impending departure via tweet just before she accompanied him to a White House event on prison reform: “After 3 1/2 years, our wonderful Sarah Huckabee Sanders will be leaving the White House at the end of the month and going home to the Great State of Arkansas.”

He added that “she would be fantastic” as Arkansas governor.


[13-Jun-19 11:30 PM] Mikey#7286
:buizel:


[13-Jun-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Guess someone complained she was sucking her own dick


[13-Jun-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess she was too credible for trump, they need someone no oen will ever take seriously


[13-Jun-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the mean time vote crazy for *arkansaw gov'nuh*


[14-Jun-19 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Jun-19 12:35 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't get it


[14-Jun-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mikey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

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Gulf of Tonkin incident
The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ), also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved either one or two separate confrontations in...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Tonkingunboats.jpg


[14-Jun-19 12:37 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[14-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
"was an international confrontation"


[14-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
no, it was not, Wikipedia.


[14-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, there was the first thing, but definitely not the second.


[14-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the first time, the US shot first...


[14-Jun-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
edit it


[14-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 Venezuela sent a sub to the persian sea to carry out these attacks and drive up the cost of crude


[14-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
MAGA ||(Morons Are Governing Again)||


[14-Jun-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When did they stop?


[14-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when that one guy changed the oath of office for Obama because he didn't want to split an infinitive? There were a good many hours where technically we didn't really hav a president.


[14-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But also, Obama was more of a peon than a moron.


[14-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Biden is way more popular than Sanders among the religious


[14-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religious nutjobs don't need Trump to run the country


[14-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
both parties are run by them.


[14-Jun-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
all hail our corporate overlords


[14-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just disagree on the exact types and intensities of religious insanity.


[14-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, the corporate megachurch is where American politics is trying to head.


[14-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
tax free, involved in politics, makes loads of money


[14-Jun-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good thing aging hasn't been cured yet.


[14-Jun-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously the ultimate goal of neoliberals funding research into longevity is to make the boomers last forever


[14-Jun-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
tfw I will pay more in taxes than any televangelist


[14-Jun-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when it bakkfires and Millennials become immortal and thus able to install perpetual socialism


[14-Jun-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, sadly Sanders can't win


[14-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being not-christian is being unelectable


[14-Jun-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
Warren - Sanders then


[14-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He can tho


[14-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'll lose to Biden


[14-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bernie can win


[14-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's gonna be something like Biden/Harris


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
or Biden/Booker


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Being a jew doesnt matter


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why booker


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't that he's a Jew


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that Christians want someone who will intentionally not push too hard on abortion etc.


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders voted against the Hyde Amendment


[14-Jun-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden supported it until last week


[14-Jun-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booker because of race


[14-Jun-19 02:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Buttigieg is also against the hyde amendment, though he can only give lip service to the amendment itself atm


[14-Jun-19 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
>it's gonna be .... Biden


[14-Jun-19 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
I would joke about Suicide but considering things here...


[14-Jun-19 02:26 AM] ononim#8141
You know what, I still can, at leat this place doesn't give you an ilusion of hope :happy:


[14-Jun-19 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Broke: Electing Biden
Woke: Electing Bernie
Bespoke: Marianne Mindset


[14-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: Soviet Union


[14-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke:


[14-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/wiv0wqty63431.jpg

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[14-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Back in the TDFR


[14-Jun-19 03:19 AM] ononim#8141
What mod is this


[14-Jun-19 03:20 AM] ononim#8141
Because afaik you can't form Transcaucasus Republic in vanila


[14-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternate history?


[14-Jun-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
1984


[14-Jun-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cleveland19.com/2019/06/13/graphic-tenn-deputy-pastor-calls-lgbtq-executions-sermon/ classy

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GRAPHIC: Tenn. deputy, pastor calls for LGBTQ executions in sermon
The Knox County district attorney has opened an investigation into all pending cases involving the deputy, following his hate speech-filled sermons.
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[14-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not sure which mod, maybe formable nations?


[14-Jun-19 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/HIPWD7G

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"Continue to be a humble, extraordinary person"
https://i.imgur.com/QBrlxkYh.jpg


[14-Jun-19 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
another post that's mildly horrifying if you think about it


[14-Jun-19 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
it takes a random millionaire seeing a random viral post to fix a single family's incredibly shitty conditions


[14-Jun-19 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
when hundreds of thousands of families are experiencing similar conditions


[14-Jun-19 01:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though thwre are bursary programmes for such people.


[14-Jun-19 01:26 PM] Crow#5457
this happened in peru


[14-Jun-19 01:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://nypost.com/2019/05/30/home-depot-heroes-build-walker-for-toddler-with-muscle-condition/

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Home Depot heroes build walker for toddler with muscle condition
Home Depot offered more than building supplies to Logan Moore. The 2-year-old has a condition called hypotonia, which weakens his muscles and leaves him unable to walk on his own. Unsure if insuran…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/home-depot-todder-walker-wp.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[14-Jun-19 01:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Heartwarming!"


[14-Jun-19 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Child with a terrible condition the insurance company doesn't want to cover is "saved" because a store donated some random garbage to use instead of a proper walker


[14-Jun-19 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which also poses the question, if some random home depot trash makes for a good walker, why are insurance companies listing it as a 50k USD item


[14-Jun-19 01:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But there is another point, that one cannot help everyone. And this is because others do not have that dedication. 

I've seen an such example in person. When I was studying at high school, it was a ghetto school, with majority from poor population. I wanted to organise a study group for kids who cannot afford access to internet or/and parent's time at home.

Only 5 learners  signed up, only one  actually stayed. @Crow


[14-Jun-19 01:43 PM] Crow#5457
except that's categorically wrong, everyone can be helped


[14-Jun-19 01:44 PM] Crow#5457
the scale of the resources that the world produces would be more than enough to help every single person on the planet reach a standard of living in which no reasonable person could find fault


[14-Jun-19 01:44 PM] Crow#5457
maybe 50 years ago that might've been true that not everyone could be helped


[14-Jun-19 01:45 PM] Crow#5457
but in the past decade, we've reached the point that not helping is just an excuse used to justify maintaining self-destructive growth rates because they look good on paper


[14-Jun-19 01:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
People's attitudes must be changed first.
"There is chaos in the country,  it is chaos in their heads." Prof. Preobrazensky


[14-Jun-19 01:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
BUT few some do not benefit from this and is suitable for them.


[14-Jun-19 01:47 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally billions of dollars a year being sunk into preventing attitudes from being changed


[14-Jun-19 01:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some developing countries have slashed their education to keep dumb voters.


[14-Jun-19 01:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And it is not about money,  it is about power.


[14-Jun-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's disturbing that headlines always call it heart warming when insurance companies don;t do their fucking job and a random ass store has to pick up the slack


[14-Jun-19 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these arent feel good stories, they're sugar coated horror stories


[14-Jun-19 02:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then insurance companies push blame on clients "did you read fine print?"


[14-Jun-19 02:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(And their contracts look dodgy, not being specific to the point of items covered)


[14-Jun-19 02:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some countries already have consumer protection act that state specifically, contracts cannot use vague definitions.


[14-Jun-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the US is like "Be as vague as you want! we won;t stop you, in fact we'll sabotage any efforts to stop you!"


[14-Jun-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/06/12/joe-biden-says-hell-cure-cancer-campaign-stop-ottumwa-iowa/1429287001/

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Joe Biden says 'we're gonna cure cancer' if he's elected president
"I promise you if I'm elected president, you're going to see the single most important thing that changes America, we're gonna cure cancer," he said.
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[14-Jun-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet that cancer cure will cost $2 million a dose...


[14-Jun-19 02:52 PM] Crow#5457
dude, we already cured cancer


[14-Jun-19 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
the USDA's archaic testing model requires that they test the same process for each and every single ultra specific sub subtype of cancer, even though the process is exactly the same for each and every type of cancer


[14-Jun-19 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
and each one of them is more expensive than the last, not because they're actually worth that insane cost, but because if everyone could afford it, the market that runs off of chronic illness would crash and cost like 6 people billions of dollars in lost suffering money, even though they already make billions a year without it


[14-Jun-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That shit needs to end, but it won't because either biden or trump will win next election, and both of them are corporate shills of the worst kind...


[14-Jun-19 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
the only expensive part is that you have to customize the process to each and every person, which costs tens of thousands of dollars in labor because of the extremely specialized training in order to use it


[14-Jun-19 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
but the minimum cost I've seen is in the $400,000 range


[14-Jun-19 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
ProCas9 is a big development because it would theoretically make it much easier to "program"


[14-Jun-19 03:02 PM] Crow#5457
on top of theoretically being able to use it directly on the body, so that's a huge chunk of the cost removed right there


[14-Jun-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
you can't directly use CRISPR/Cas9 on the body because there's no "lock" on the enzyme, so it goes around changing all the DNA in your body and not just the DNA of the bacteria or the DNA of your immune cells


[14-Jun-19 03:03 PM] Crow#5457
but ProCas9 has a "lock" on it that would theoretically remove that problem completely, now we're testing to see how powerful that lock actually is


[14-Jun-19 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
and if it is actually as powerful as it theoretically is, you could basically program a whole artificial immune system to supplement or even entirely replace an ailing natural immune system


[14-Jun-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cdab615894c24163a7947d67c6874f2f

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New York ends religious exemption to vaccine mandates
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York eliminated the religious exemption to vaccine requirements for schoolchildren Thursday, as the nation's worst measles outbreak in decades prompts states to reconsider...
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[14-Jun-19 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48624024

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Home secretary signs Assange extradition request
A UK court will now decide whether the Wikileaks founder should be extradited to the US.
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[14-Jun-19 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
julian assange is a piece of shit but I fear for the way he'll be treated by the US


[14-Jun-19 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1139560651666415616?s=21

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The White House (@WhiteHouse)
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[14-Jun-19 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
OOF


[14-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Dude looks like a fucking child cowering behind the flag like that


[14-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
At least have some fuckin' confidence you know


[14-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Today is Flag Day. btw I'm president."


[14-Jun-19 07:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems the intent was to "hug" the flag


[14-Jun-19 07:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Poor execution tho


[14-Jun-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
He looks like he's gonna hump it


[14-Jun-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Based off what clifford said, I would be scared to be that flagpole


[14-Jun-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
“He knows he has an unusual penis,” Daniels claims. “It has a huge mushroom head. Like a toadstool…

“I lay there, annoyed that I was getting f–ked by a guy with Yeti pubes and a d–k like the mushroom character in Mario Kart,”


[14-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/border-patrol-outdoor-detention-migrants-el-paso/

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In El Paso, Border Patrol Is Detaining Migrants in ‘a Human Dog ...
Immigration officials have resumed the much-criticized practice of keeping people outdoors for weeks to relieve dangerous overcrowding.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/CPB-detention-heat-1200x750.jpg


[14-Jun-19 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Normal country


[14-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/23/725951972/thank-god-we-re-okay-migrants-tell-of-conditions-in-a-texas-cbp-holding-facility

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'Thank God We're OK.' Migrants Tell Of Conditions In A Texas Holdi...
The facility was shut down for 24 hours after 32 detainees got sick with the flu. A 16-year-old who had gotten sick there later died at another Border Patrol station.
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[14-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
So after they're put outside in cages


[14-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
they may get transferred inside into what're basically refrigerators for humans


[14-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
air conditioning intentionally put as intense as it'll go


[14-Jun-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
So people who are used to hot conditions and are sweating their asses off in the desert get put in hypothermia-inducing temperatures


[14-Jun-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
55 F


[14-Jun-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/13/trump-has-stiffed-10-cities-that-asked-him-to-pay-for-police-at-his-rallies/

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Trump stiffs cities that asked him to pay for police protection
Ten cities say Trump campaign hasn't paid the bill for police services during his rallies; it could be a violation
https://media.salon.com/2019/03/donald-trump516.jpg


[14-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't pay? Don't provide police protection.


[14-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/arizona-indian-girl-body-found-in-the-desert/index.html

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Body of a 7-year-old girl from India is found in the Arizona desert
The body of a 7-year-old girl believed to be from India was found in a remote desert area in Arizona this week, according to US Customs and Border Protection.
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[14-Jun-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.knoe.com/content/news/Alabama-court-forces-rape-survivor-to-allow-rapist-to-have-visitation-with-children-511195642.html

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Alabama court forces rape survivor to allow rapist to have visitat...
A 32-year-old woman in Birmingham, Alabama says the state's laws have forced her to face the man she says raped her again and again.
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[14-Jun-19 10:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.idropnews.com/news/mr-cook-goes-to-washington-again/108760/

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Jesse Hollington
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Tim Cook Heads to Washington (Again) to Meet with President Trump
Apple CEO Tim Cook was once again at the White House yesterday to meet with U.S. President Donald Trump, likely discussing some of the many contentious
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[14-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/nbc-announces-lineup-democrats-each-two-nights-first-2020-debate-n1017676

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NBC announces lineup of Democrats for each night of first 2020 debate
To decide the matchups, candidates' names were drawn manually at NBC News' headquarters in New York.
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[14-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Debate 1 is basically gonna be Warrenfest


[14-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Debate 2 will be Biden/Sanders showdown


[14-Jun-19 11:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Next level snitching
https://twitter.com/JanAageTorp1/status/1139533961988845568

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Attn: @realDonaldTrump @seanhannity As Chairman of Norway’s Christian Coalition, I am concerned that US Embassy in Oslo seems to violate @SecPompeo’s ban of rainbow flag at embassies. I took this photo now. Is this ok, @POTUS? Huge gay flag. Tiny US flag....
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[15-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/ReeraTakes/status/1139596620717273089

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ResetEra Takes 🏳️‍🌈 (@ReeraTakes)
https://twitter.com/ReeraTakes/status/1139596620717273089
Remember this thread?
Well.... new stuff surfaced today and it's not pretty. https://t.co/3jREQpzY1V
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[15-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😂


[15-Jun-19 12:14 AM] ononim#8141

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[15-Jun-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6a48842e263541a5b3451f0d41dee01a

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US says video shows Iran removing mine from stricken tanker
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military released a video Friday it said showed Iran's Revolutionary Guard removing an unexploded limpet mine from one of the oil tankers targeted near...
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[15-Jun-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/14/oil-tanker-owner-disagrees-with-us-that-mine-caused-blast-near-iran.html

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Japanese oil tanker owner disagrees with US military that a mine c...
"I do not think there was a time bomb or an object attached to the side of the ship," Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo, said at a press conference Friday.
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[15-Jun-19 04:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Laughing my ass off at that photo of Cunt hugging the flag lol


[15-Jun-19 04:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
In more positive news. Handcock (UK age verification for porn by personal ID, obsession with technology for all the wrong reasons and NHS sellout) withdrew from list of candidates for prime minister. 

The rest are all bad but fuck that cunt inpaticuler.

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[15-Jun-19 04:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1139170695181676545

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Sadly, #HIGNFY isn’t on the air during the selection of a new Prime Minister. Fortunately, the dropping of court proceedings against Boris Johnson for misuse of public office means we can now show the uncensored footage from the show in which the case was discussed. http...
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[15-Jun-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html

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Iranians fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US offi...
In the hours before the attack on the two tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.
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[15-Jun-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
>The missile missed the drone and fell into the water, the official said.


[15-Jun-19 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hmmm


[15-Jun-19 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so even if we assume this went down the way they're saying it did, I remain utterly unconvinced that their response to the situation is appropriate


[15-Jun-19 06:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One way or the other, they're gleefully inciting violence with Iran at a time when we're still trying to figure out what even happened


[15-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thinking's for communists, obviously.


[15-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
what if the drone carried the missile that hit the tanker


[15-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
and iran failing to destroy it is what allowed the attack to go through


[15-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The most likely scenario is a US reco drone flew over the tanker while chased by a shitty missile that decided the tanker was a juicier target


[15-Jun-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That still doesn't explain the alleged mine placement


[15-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now, to argue whether the drone operator didn't anticipate that scenario, that they did as a way to avoid the missile, or that they intentionally baited the missile


[15-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only people talking about mines are the WH


[15-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And last I checked, mines are under the surface, not 3m above it


[15-Jun-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In this situation I don't think it's possible to just outright ignore the WH because those photos came from *somewhere*


[15-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mines are made to sink destroyers


[15-Jun-19 06:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't imagine an oil tanker would survive hitting one


[15-Jun-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Flip the equation, then. So assuming the mine thing is entirely bogus, why would they need to fabricate it if there was a missile launch?


[15-Jun-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ofc, that question has a much more obvious answer


[15-Jun-19 06:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gulf of Tonkin 2: Hormuz Bugaloo


[15-Jun-19 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, 
1. Because there was a drone that indirectly caused the incident
2. They made up the lie before they had the facts, and then had to stick with it


[15-Jun-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it more likely that Venezuela is behind this to drive up the price of oil than Iran


[15-Jun-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also find it more likely that Israel is


[15-Jun-19 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only way Iran could be behind this is because of a fuck up


[15-Jun-19 06:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder in 2002 the US military ran a war games simulation against Iran. The US commander put in charge of the simulated Iranian forces promptly put SCUDs on patrol boats and decimated the US navy, caused upwards of 40,000 or more deaths, and repelled the US military and won the war with a US route. Ever since, the military had to Nerf Iran in their simulated battles.


[15-Jun-19 06:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

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Millennium Challenge 2002
Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) was a major war game exercise conducted by the United States Armed Forces in mid-2002. The exercise, which ran from July 24 to August 15 and cost $250 million, involved both live exercises and computer simulations. MC02 was meant to be a test ...


[15-Jun-19 06:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
>250 million dollars just to get a result that made the DoD restart the entire thing on a script that would ensure US victory and not actively investigate any weaknesses in our armed forces.


[15-Jun-19 06:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can't wait for a F-35 to be shot down by a MiG and the defense budget collapsing from that single causality.

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[15-Jun-19 07:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.france24.com/en/20190614-brazil-cities-paralysed-bolsonaro-general-strike-pension-reform

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Brazil cities paralysed as Bolsonaro faces first general strike
A nationwide strike called by Brazil's trade unions disrupted public transport and triggered road blocks in parts of the country Friday, ahead of protests against far-right President Jair Bolsonaro's pension reform.
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[15-Jun-19 11:03 AM] Torr#5078
https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1139487658462404608

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PC Gamer (@pcgamer)
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Cyberpunk 2077 will let you make transgender and non-binary characters, according to a designer https://t.co/rJ5s2MTbyk
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[15-Jun-19 11:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>gamifying trans characters


[15-Jun-19 11:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SOUNDS PRETTY TRANSPHOBIC TO ME, SMH 2019


[15-Jun-19 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb5mISH9MmM

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Associated Press
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb5mISH9MmM
Video purports to show Iran removing ship mine
The U.S. military on Friday released a video it said showed Iran's Revolutionary Guard removing an unexploded limpet mine from one of the oil tankers targete...
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[15-Jun-19 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
wow, that like/dislike ratio


[15-Jun-19 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
it's almost like people aren't buying the US's bullshit anymore


[15-Jun-19 02:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/JosephSakran/status/1139605593944014848

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I’m going to put a cap right in your f*cking head......”

Just listening to the conversation here makes me sick to my stomach. https://t.co/F1Vxf8kWMB
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[15-Jun-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1139301939731148801

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Bleeding John Bolton Stumbles Into Capitol Building Claiming That Iran Shot Him https://t.co/FodHlv7aZN
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[15-Jun-19 05:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://start.att.net/news/read/article/cnn-iranian_boat_fired_missile_at_us_drone_prior_to_ta-cnn2/category/news

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Iranians fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US offi...
In the hours before the attack on the two tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.
https://da4pli3l5vc0d.cloudfront.net/0b/9a/0b9a3cdd08784e057f4b76e689dcc3431087dcd3/h=310,w=414,crop=top-20/?app=portal&sig=48add57365ba639191586c902db821d28579a8ebe483ba48027c34b5f221fa94


[15-Jun-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/328864cb72ce41a49153d06df1db5c82

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Trump blames Iran for tanker attacks but calls for talks
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has blamed Iran for attacks on oil tankers near the strategic Strait of Hormuz, but he also held out hope that implicit U.S. threats to use force will...
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[15-Jun-19 06:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes donny this is how diplomacy works, I'm sure of it


[15-Jun-19 06:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The bit of "big stick" ideology you forgot is that you're supposed to *speak softly*


[15-Jun-19 06:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, y'know, think ahead


[15-Jun-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
threats of force is the ultimate diplomacy


[15-Jun-19 06:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
compare and contrast for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology

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Big Stick ideology
Big stick ideology, big stick diplomacy, or big stick policy refers to U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt’s foreign policy: "speak softly and carry a big stick, you will go far." Roosevelt described his style of foreign policy as "the exercise of intelligent forethought and ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Tr-bigstick-cartoon.JPG


[15-Jun-19 06:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Absolutely nothing about the way trump operates is peaceful


[15-Jun-19 06:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or Bolton, for that matter


[15-Jun-19 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's just a war hawk, and so, by extension, is Trump


[15-Jun-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump dodged the vietnam war right?


[15-Jun-19 06:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, no, war hawks don't want to get *involved* in wars. They just like starting them


[15-Jun-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm trying to remember which war he dodged with his "bone spurs"


[15-Jun-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should just ship the war hawks out in place of our military


[15-Jun-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want a fight, let them have it themselves


[15-Jun-19 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah. The last thing I want is for our foreign presence to be looking for a fight


[15-Jun-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well what i meant was throwing trump and bolton to the wolves and electing a new leader, but sure


[15-Jun-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ae56e247ef9b4350b3c939ed8d8d6e99

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Weld takes GOP bid to oust Trump to NH. Voters are confused.
DOVER, N.H. (AP) — Bill Weld jokes about not kissing the back of a child's head because he doesn't want to be accused, like Joe Biden, of making people uncomfortable. He tells voters they wouldn't...
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[15-Jun-19 06:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this just in: Weld is eccentric


[15-Jun-19 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's right about county fairs


[15-Jun-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Jun-19 10:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/carpedonktum/status/1139268511539376133?s=12

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Carpe Donktum🔹 (@CarpeDonktum)
https://twitter.com/carpedonktum/status/1139268511539376133?s=12
You will be deeply missed @SHSanders45 https://t.co/gKtajg4L7m
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[16-Jun-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So hang on, people are genuinely trying to remember her as "transparent and honest" just because she told them to?


[16-Jun-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can believe it...


[16-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative unity in action.


[16-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget, conveniently, all the lies etc.


[16-Jun-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48645342

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HK suspends controversial extradition bill
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam expresses "deep sorrow" at deficiencies in her work, after mass protests.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07d7fpj.jpg


[16-Jun-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
"deep sorrow"


[16-Jun-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
""deep sorrow""


[16-Jun-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
""""deep sorrow"""


[16-Jun-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Balls deep sorrow


[16-Jun-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
gay

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[16-Jun-19 09:14 AM] Torr#5078
:shrugpony: 
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/my-little-pony-lesbian-couple-pride

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There's Going To Be A Lesbian Couple On "My Little Pony"
We ship Aunt Holiday and Auntie Lofty.
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[16-Jun-19 09:15 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[16-Jun-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-crown-prince/saudi-crown-prince-calls-for-decisive-stand-on-tanker-attacks-idUSKCN1TG0OU

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Saudi crown prince calls for 'decisive stand' on tanker attacks
Saudi Arabia's crown prince called on the international community to take a...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190615&t=2&i=1398236810&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5E0LA


[16-Jun-19 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
saudi arabia's calling for war on iran

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[16-Jun-19 11:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Of course they will. They are the regional rival.


[16-Jun-19 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/F4UZnoEbSgA

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Lil Miss Croissant
https://youtu.be/F4UZnoEbSgA
[YTP] The Incel Manifesto by Dennis Prager
(Turn the subtitles on gamers) Hey y'all! I've discovered Prager U YTPs not too long ago, and I've decided to give a shot at it. This is my first official YT...
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[16-Jun-19 02:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/06/14/police-intimidating-azat-miftakhovs-family-into-testifying/

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Police Intimidating Azat Miftakhov’s Family into Testifying
Azat Miftakhov. Photo courtesy of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty Police Pressuring Azat Miftakhov’s Family to Testify OVD Info June 14, 2019 During an interview at the Nizhnekamsk police dep…
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[16-Jun-19 02:42 PM] ononim#8141
```During an interview at the Nizhnekamsk police department, police officers promised Moscow State University (MSU) graduate student Azat Miftakhov’s stepfather problems if he did not testify and submit Miftakhov’s younger sister, who is finishing ninth grade, to routine monitoring by the police, OVD Info has learned from the MSU Pressure Group.

Svetlana Sidorkina, Miftakhov’s defense counsel, corroborated the news. According to her, the police want Miftakhov’s family to testify. Sidorkina underscored that Miftakhov’s mother, stepfather, and sister have the right not to testify since they are close relatives.

Azat Miftakhov is a suspect in a criminal case involving a broken window at a United Russia party office.```


[16-Jun-19 02:42 PM] ononim#8141
```According to the MSU Pressure Group, police officers visited the Miftakhov family home on June 6, telling them to come to the police station for an interview. As they were leaving, they hinted Miftakhov was guilty. Subsequently, police officers telephoned the Miftakhovs several times, demanding they report to the police station.

On June 10, during the interview, police officers showed Miftakhov’s stepfather a video in which his younger sister is seen pasting stickers in his defense. The police officers demanded that the girl stop supporting her brother overtly. Otherwise, she would have problems at school, and they would make a habit of detaining her, summon her for interviews, and put her on their routine monitoring list.```


[16-Jun-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/77cd155339744a9396399ae641096230

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Alabama orders 'chemical castration' of some child molesters
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Some Alabama sex offenders who abuse young children will have to undergo "chemical castration" while on parole, under a new law, but the requirement has prompted legal...
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[16-Jun-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-extradition/sea-of-black-hong-kong-protesters-demand-leader-step-down-idUSKCN1TH00P

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'Sea of black' Hong Kong protesters demand leader step down
Hundreds of thousands of black-clad protesters in Hong Kong demanded on Sunday t...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190616&t=2&i=1398376065&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5F0DK


[16-Jun-19 05:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/589801255040188427/62613170_2338780873114095_1758526264303419392_n.png

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[16-Jun-19 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-tariffs-hurt-economy-trump-has-gone-too-far-on-immigration

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Fox News Poll: Tariffs hurt economy, Trump has gone too far on imm...
Fifty-seven percent of voters feel optimistic about the economy. That’s down from 66 percent who felt that way when President Trump was inaugurated in early 2017, and from 63 percent who were optimistic in February.
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[16-Jun-19 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-democrats-want-a-steady-leader-biden-leads-trump-by-10-points>


[16-Jun-19 06:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh


[16-Jun-19 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Jun-19 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"There's nothing that can be done to stop this"- only country where this happens


[16-Jun-19 07:38 PM] ononim#8141
Damn Baltimore is wilding


[16-Jun-19 07:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇺🇸 🔫


[16-Jun-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Where's philadelphia


[16-Jun-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
13th, 20.06


[16-Jun-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

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List of United States cities by crime rate
The following table of United States cities by crime rate is based on Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Reports statistics from 2017 for the top 100 most populous cities in America that have reported data to the FBI UCR system.The population numbers are based on U...


[16-Jun-19 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-airshow-boeing-certification-e/exclusive-boeing-seeking-to-reduce-scope-duration-of-some-physical-tests-for-new-aircraft-sources-idUSKCN1TH0A3

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Exclusive: Boeing seeking to reduce scope, duration of some...
Boeing Co engineers are reducing the scope and duration of certain costly physic...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190616&t=2&i=1398370545&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5F0CQ


[16-Jun-19 07:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_engineers will cut hours off airborne testing by using computer models to simulate flight conditions, and then present the results to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as part of the basis for certification_


[16-Jun-19 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_replace costly and labor intensive physical safety tests used for decades - such as using machines to bend the wings to extreme angles and shaking the fuselage until it cracks - with computer modeling_


[16-Jun-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao ok


[16-Jun-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
that's gonna go over well for them


[16-Jun-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's totally how that works


[16-Jun-19 09:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQeGBHxIyHw&feature=youtu.be

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Whole Worker
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Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video
Actual clips from Amazon's union-busting training video that was sent to Whole Foods management in 2018. It was then leaked by Whole Worker to the media. #Wh...
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[16-Jun-19 09:30 PM] ononim#8141
>Associates


[16-Jun-19 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/pakistani-clerics-declare-transgender-marriages-legal-in-islam/?fbclid=IwAR0GtYDAvD_mO2Uz3os58FMIAYF5NIXYw9GaTkfER89pDu_Pcu0sE0y9J58

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Pakistani clerics declare transgender marriages legal in Islam
Fifty top Pakistani clerics have issued a religious decree declaring that transgender people have full marriage, inheritance and funeral rights under Islamic law.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/06/27/Fartzana_and_paroWORLD-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq_oMXTpXgBkHuxDpi0rvHeMIcmIxomfdWX0hpR4E3qTo.jpg


[16-Jun-19 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
... is there a source that isn't the telegraph?


[16-Jun-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-transgender/pakistani-clerics-declare-transgender-marriages-legal-under-islamic-law-idUSKCN0ZD1IZ

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Pakistani clerics declare transgender marriages legal under Islamic...
A group of clerics in Pakistan has declared marriage between transgender individ...
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[16-Jun-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Jun-19 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being this fragile


[16-Jun-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gets in the way of their pedophilia


[16-Jun-19 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Imagine combining lootboxes with LGBTQ flags, except the chance of getting any particular flag (cosmetic/skin) is based on census data


[16-Jun-19 11:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is that chaotic good?


[16-Jun-19 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More like lawful neutral


[16-Jun-19 11:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suppose it depends on your opinion of the legality of lootboxes


[17-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You include the trans flag, but also the pedophilia flag, in equal amounts, and most people unbox the straight flag over and over

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[17-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is chaotic something


[17-Jun-19 01:41 AM] Lilly#4737
Hold my flags


[17-Jun-19 04:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/B_i8_WuyqAY

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What are societies of control?
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cuck Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhilosophyCuck I will get a better microphone sometime this summer, don't worry. Working o...
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[17-Jun-19 04:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
We live in a society


[17-Jun-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Gamers rise up


[17-Jun-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Bottom text


[17-Jun-19 04:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gamers oppressed by the Society of Control. Gamers press F and read Deleuze, the most Gamer of philosophers.


[17-Jun-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Gamers rise up and seize the means of unproductivity!


[17-Jun-19 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally a tract in current left theory.


[17-Jun-19 04:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like straight from Kropotkin. Do we really need to work all the time? We should go to a society of leisure and not work.


[17-Jun-19 04:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I honestly wonder If anything bad would happen If we didn't have any jobs


[17-Jun-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are a number of things that can definitely go wrong in a post-scarcity society. Chief among these ills is people getting bored


[17-Jun-19 04:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well in the sense of the anarchist mission of Kropotkin the next revolution after THE revolution is to find a way to lessen our dependency on the essential but unwanted labor to sustain our society so then our only jobs really are just sorta doing what we want. It's collectively managing the development of and setting the goals and material ends of automation so we can pivot our lives towards things which bring us joy.


[17-Jun-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, a lot of people want to be creative


[17-Jun-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially artistic types


[17-Jun-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the pursuit of money hinders artistic types


[17-Jun-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it lessens the quality of their work


[17-Jun-19 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
So like, we work to lower our dependency on human labor in manufacturing so less of us are needed all the time to do it.


[17-Jun-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Nebbie except the quality of whatever you want doesn't matter. Just that you can and should do it if it brings you joy. Saying or implying no one should do a thing if they're not good asserts the liberal evaluation of a role that Kropotkin was dismantling.


[17-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
quality isn't the goal here


[17-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
happiness is


[17-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
artists and consumers of art are less happy when quality is bad and the artist is nearly starving


[17-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yet this is what occurs in capitalism


[17-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is bizarre in that it creates very good growth, often huge improvents to quality of living, absolute wealth never seen before


[17-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yet at the same time it's pretty terrible on those at the lower end, creates all sorts of inequality, and seems to lead to easily-solvable problems that everyone just kind of hopes the upward growth will take care of


[17-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a solution where you just try to increase the numbers instead of take any strategy.


[17-Jun-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Consumer" is a very much liberal, capitalist term.


[17-Jun-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
WE ARE BEYOND THE LIBERAL BOUGIE WORLD


[17-Jun-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
CONSUMPTION AS EXCHANGE IS DEAD


[17-Jun-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
DO AS DO, AS INTEREST AND WANT


[17-Jun-19 05:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literal Apogee exists as a popular OC and she's subjectively boring. :glimmer:


[17-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I've gathered over the years


[17-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers would basically ideally support a Gaming Consumer Bureau made up of YouTubers that tell game companies what they can and cannot make in a year


[17-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the GCB is owned by the government


[17-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Mikey#7286
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/hackers-behind-dangerous-oil-and-gas-intrusions-are-probing-us-power-grids

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Hackers behind dangerous oil and gas intrusions are probing US pow...
Group responsible for safety tampering Triconex malware has expanded, researchers say.
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[17-Jun-19 12:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/14/fueled-by-nazi-fascination-concord-man-alleged-plotted-to-massacre-jewish-people-police-officers/

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Fueled by Nazi fascination, Concord man allegedly plotted to massa...
A Bay Area man who allegedly talked online about wanting to emulate the Poway synagogue shooter “except with a Nazi uniform on” is in county jail and facing three felony charges, after …
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[17-Jun-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/trump-campaign-cutting-ties-pollsters-after-internal-numbers-leaked-n1017991

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Trump campaign cutting ties with pollsters after internal numbers ...
The president's re-election campaign says series of polls showing Joe Biden ahead in key states are "ancient" news.
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[17-Jun-19 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/middleeast/iran-nuclear-deal-stockpile-intl/index.html

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Iran says it will break the uranium stockpile limit agreed under n...
Iran is ramping up enrichment of low-grade uranium and will pass the limit it is allowed to stockpile under the nuclear deal in 10 days, a spokesman for the Iranian atomic agency announced Monday.
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[17-Jun-19 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/asia/joshua-wong-hong-kong-protests-intl-hnk/index.html

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Joshua Wong released from prison day after hundreds of thousands m...
A day after organizers said 2 million Hong Kongers took to the streets to march against an extradition bill with China, one of the city's pro-democracy icons has been released from prison.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190617131416-joshua-wong-0617-01-super-tease.jpg


[17-Jun-19 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/16/us/politics/trump-health-care-democrats-2020.html

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Trump Wants to Neutralize Democrats on Health Care. Republicans Sa...
If the president follows through on issuing a plan, it could help shape a presidential race that Democrats would like to focus largely on health care.
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[17-Jun-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/articles/article-ii I don;t know if he was citing the constitution... but a[parently he thinks article 2 gives him the power to do whatever he damned well pleases

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The 2nd Article of the U.S. Constitution
SECTION. 1. The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen fo
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[17-Jun-19 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/16/us/boeing-noose-lawsuit/index.html

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A black Boeing employee found a noose over his desk. Now he's suin...
An African-American Boeing employee has filed a federal lawsuit against the aviation company alleging racial discrimination after he said his coworkers hung a noose over his desk.
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[17-Jun-19 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
>Curtis Anthony alleges in the lawsuit that his colleagues at the North Charleston, South Carolina, Boeing plant also used the n-word and urinated on his desk. He is suing over discrimination on the basis of race, retaliation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, violations of the Family Medical Leave Act and breach of contract.


[17-Jun-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of noose hanging going on right now...


[17-Jun-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the crap


[17-Jun-19 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's obviously just a coincidence that a man who refuses to denounce racism and bigotry is elected as president, and racism and bigotry starts flaring in the country


[17-Jun-19 03:11 PM] Crow#5457
obviously they aren't empowered by thinking that the most powerful person in the US and one of the most powerful in the world will support and defend them if they're called out on their racism and bigotry


[17-Jun-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah i missed the part where it said south carolina


[17-Jun-19 03:16 PM] ononim#8141
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[17-Jun-19 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
:faceclaw::faceclaw::faceclaw:


[17-Jun-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2571198d6eb349ffad4815532347b658

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Pfizer to buy Array BioPharma in deal worth $11.4 billion
NEW YORK (AP) — Pfizer is delving deeper into cancer research with a roughly $11.4 billion deal for Array BioPharma, a drug developer that has seen its shares soar since announcing positive...
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[17-Jun-19 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/16/trump-heights-netanyahu-dedicates-new-settlement-to-us-president.html

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'Trump Heights': Netanyahu dedicates new settlement in Golan Heigh...
U.S. ambassador to Israel David Friedman called the gesture a "birthday present" to Trump, who turned 73 on Friday.
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[17-Jun-19 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[17-Jun-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/opinion/police-dna-warrant.html

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By ELIZABETH JOH
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Opinion | Want to See My Genes? Get a Warrant
Should the police be able to investigate your genetic family tree for any crime, no matter how minor?
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[17-Jun-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
the dystopia is already here


[17-Jun-19 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/17/donald-trump-investigations-1365910

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There are 15 outside investigations into Trump — and he relishes it
Unlike most other candidates who face allegations of wrongdoing, he hopes to use them as part of a strategy that he hopes will help win him re-election.
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[17-Jun-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/16/donald-trump-abc-news-interview-1365853

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Trump: ‘I run the country’
The president told ABC News: “There was no crime.”
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[17-Jun-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"A president can't obstruct justice?" Stephanopoulos asked.

"A president can run the country," Trump responded. "And that's what happened, George. I run the country."

Reflecting the famous 1977 interviews between David Frost and former President Richard Nixon, Stephanopoulos asked the president "When the president does it, it's not illegal?"

Trump replied that Article II is "very strong. Read it."


[17-Jun-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/16/trump-says-supporters-could-demand-he-not-leave-after-two-terms/1471915001/

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Trump says supporters could 'demand' he not leave office after two...
The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution explicitly states that "no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice."
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[17-Jun-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...and he's gone full dictator, not that he had that much distance to travel in the first place

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[17-Jun-19 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/06/08/russias-new-genetic-military-passports-will-sort-the-fighters-from-the-thinkers/

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Russia Will Genetically Test Soldiers To Identify The Best Fighter...
According to the country's chief scientist, Russia is developing genetic passports for its military to determine the suitability of individuals to particular activities. The program will sort those suited to fighting from those suited to planning, and will also look at cyber ...
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[17-Jun-19 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Netanyahoo


[17-Jun-19 06:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/448876-supreme-court-hands-virginia-democrats-a-win-in-gerrymandering-case

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Supreme Court hands Virginia Democrats a win in gerrymandering case
The Supreme Court has ruled against the Virginia House of Delegates in a racial gerrymandering case that represents a victory for Democrats in the state.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scotus_supremecourt_012219gn4.jpg


[17-Jun-19 06:07 PM] Crow#5457
>Supreme Court hands **democracy** a win in Virginia gerrymandering case.


[17-Jun-19 06:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/QVnD5O-W3Xw

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Sir Swag
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This week's news without the bullshit
Welcome to the 24th week of news without the bullshit. This week we’ll be looking at Mark Zuckerburg’s fake Instagram video, the Manhattan skyscraper helicop...
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[17-Jun-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big deal https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-declines-change-double-jeopardy-rule-case-manafort-implications-n1014771

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Supreme Court declines to change double jeopardy rule in a case wi...
Trump's former campaign manager might have been helped if the case involving an Alabama man on gun and robbery charges had been overturned.
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[17-Jun-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
This case could've made it so Trump could pardon everyone and bypass all legal issues


[17-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
there's people who would unironically advocate for states' rights while simultaneously say that the state and federal government can't both prosecute a person for the same crime


[17-Jun-19 07:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48661843

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Iran to breach enriched uranium limit in 10 days
It will exceed the amount allowed under a nuclear deal, amid heightened tensions over US sanctions.
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[17-Jun-19 08:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
We broke the deal first. So good on them


[17-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
I linked an article about that already lol


[17-Jun-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/jkass99/status/1140687342660755456?s=21

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This is a picture of the Dallas Shooter.

We live in the dumbest fucking timeline
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[17-Jun-19 09:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He doesn't kill anyone with RPK,what a loser


[17-Jun-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://www.darkhorizons.com/russians-now-want-to-ban-chernobyl/

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Russians Now Want To Ban "Chernobyl" - Dark Horizons
The other week came word that the Russian government had lambasted HBO’s highly acclaimed “Chernobyl” miniseries which chronicled the events of the horrific 1986 nuclear disaster. Now The Communists of Russia, a Marxist-Leninist political party separate from the larger ...
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[17-Jun-19 09:39 PM] ononim#8141
Must be something high up or just talk because so far any mention of it I caught was pretty neutral


[17-Jun-19 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the GLORY TO STALIN parties is making a fuss


[17-Jun-19 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
Like I overheard dad watching news and there was segment about how it caused boom of tourism into Zone, and they didn't "stealthy" berate it like they usually do when something is out of "party line"


[17-Jun-19 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
>CPRF


[17-Jun-19 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
Those are just clowns


[17-Jun-19 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
Court jesters


[17-Jun-19 09:41 PM] ononim#8141
GRANTED, every party in parlaiment are, sans United Russia who are clowns AND rulling apparatus


[18-Jun-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/15/politics/us-ramping-up-cyberattacks-russia/index.html

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New York Times: US ramping up cyber attacks on Russia
The US is escalating cyber attacks on Russia's electric power grid and has placed potentially crippling malware inside the Russian system, The New York Times reported Saturday.
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[18-Jun-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Jun-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the military hasnt been breifing donald trump because they think he'll tell everytrhing to foreign powers


[18-Jun-19 12:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Our military has the best hacks. Believe me. We are hacking Russia, China and the UK right now." -Trump probably


[18-Jun-19 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/76ea0daee12645f0ae7177eb506935cb

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50 countries vow to fight cybercrime - US and Russia don't
PARIS (AP) — Fifty nations and over 150 tech companies pledged Monday to do more to fight criminal activity on the internet, including interference in elections and hate speech. But the United States, Russia and China are not among them. The group of governments and compani...
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[18-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.ctpost.com/local/ctpost/article/Lawyers-Alex-Jones-sent-child-porn-to-Sandy-Hook-14005437.php

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Lawyers for Sandy Hook families say Alex Jones sent them child porn
BRIDGEPORT - Conspiracy theorist and InfoWars host Alex Jones sent child pornography to the lawyers for the families of the Sandy Hook tragedy, their lawyers said. 
 The law firm representing the families of the 2012 mass shooting, stated in court documents filed Monday they ...
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[18-Jun-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow


[18-Jun-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as if shit couldnt hit the fan harder for him


[18-Jun-19 01:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The frogs are pedos now?


[18-Jun-19 02:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[18-Jun-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
meh


[18-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://gizmodo.com/whats-going-on-with-those-child-porn-allegations-agains-1835594867

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What's Going On With Those Child Porn Allegations Against Alex Jones
New details surfaced Monday concerning the allegations that child pornography had been discovered on a server linked to conspiracy theorist and radio personality Alex Jones, operator of the InfoWars website.
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[18-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
>Jones claimed last week that he had been the target of a malware attack, which left child pornography on his servers, prompting an FBI investigation. That investigation, which the FBI will not confirm, began several weeks ago, Jones’s attorney Norm Pattis told reporters.


[18-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
>The plaintiffs appeared to accept this version of events, writing: “It is worth noting that if the Jones Defendants had engaged in even minimal due diligence and actually reviewed the materials before production, they would have found the images themselves.”


[18-Jun-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it was in discovery material


[18-Jun-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
so this is actually a lot thornier than it may seem, @Crow


[18-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, in the US you hav to turn overy FUKKING EVERYTHING that could POSSIBLY help the other side to the other side


[18-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is great for making sure people can mount a defense, but


[18-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is no limit on *how much* you can turn over


[18-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the optimal strategy is to turn over much, much more than they can possibly handle


[18-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the hopes they will never find the important parts


[18-Jun-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you're pretty much required to do that because if you out of negligence omit one thing they would've been able to use, you can be held liable


[18-Jun-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The amount of documents that are often put out to the other side nowadays is in volumes that are humanly impossible to look at.


[18-Jun-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So lawyers hav to get outside consultant firms to put everything into a custom legal search engine


[18-Jun-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
just to try and find relevant material to present to those lawyers


[18-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, say that their server stored junk email for a long time, and some randomass CP sent to harass them got sorted into junk folders and never looked at


[18-Jun-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's entirely plausible here that what some consultants looked at was that, which InfoWars or any lawyer on either side would never hav noticed


[18-Jun-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially since naturally you would want to put stuff into a junk folder to reduce chances of the other side finding it in discovery, so it'd be the first place a consultant would look manually


[18-Jun-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply...it actually probably is the case that this was a basically unavoidable accident.


[18-Jun-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boy, doesn't the legal system sound fun?


[18-Jun-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You try to go after a guy for being shitty, he dumps like 50 TB of info on you, you hand it over to some people who actually might be able to dredge up 20 GB of useful data, then they tell you you need to call up the FBI urgently and that this'll take an extra month at best!


[18-Jun-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then probably after a month they say that it might take three and the whole case is gonna be delayed and it's very possible that after a year or two the case'll just be thrown out for lakk of evidence.


[18-Jun-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.thelocal.es/20190617/two-leaders-of-galician-independence

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Two leaders of Galician independence terrorist cell arrested in Spain
Two leaders of a former Galician independence organisation, who have lived in hiding for more than a decade, have been arrested, the Spanish Civil Guard police force said on Sunday.
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[18-Jun-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Galicians: <Exist>


[18-Jun-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Guardia Civil: "VIVA ESPANIA"


[18-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah classic


[18-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
let's waste everyone's time and money


[18-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
going after people who were never a threat to begin with


[18-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and who hav spent 10 years being normal people


[18-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll burn good in the papers.


[18-Jun-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
"According to the Civil Guard, more than 60 bombings, causing only material damage, were attributed to Resistencia Galega."


[18-Jun-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
:yay:


[18-Jun-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those buildings hav feelings you know.


[18-Jun-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will never be the same again.


[18-Jun-19 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
TIL destruction of property isn't a crime


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it sure is a crime but I think this is probably a waste of money to prosecute so many years later.


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And nebbie, the national papers aren't giving a shit


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is page 20 news


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, what is Spain spending propaganda resources on then?


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catalonia?


[18-Jun-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitching about the far right


[18-Jun-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every paper, including the traditionally right-leaning ones, are mostly bitching about a far right getting a few council members in random towns


[18-Jun-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah the classic "how dare Democracy giv token representation to the like 10 guys somewhere that think we should be Hitler, what's next? Giving token representation to people who would stop polluting the environment?"


[18-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The far right in Spain is fairly far removed from the generic european far right


[18-Jun-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To the point that tbh them being called far right is just meant to tar them


[18-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do they support?


[18-Jun-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not giving free health care to illegal immigrants and the usual christian shit of "family values"

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[18-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, nativists


[18-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's been a big push in spain the last two decades against "male violence", were there are a good number of laws (and special courts) that discriminate against men


[18-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As in, if a man commits a crime, 10 years, if a woman commits the exact same crime, it goes to a different judge, and it's 2 years


[18-Jun-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's been pissing off a fair number of people


[18-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess Spain has nothing like the 14th amendment?


[18-Jun-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There've been a number of high profile cases where the system leaned heavily in favour of a woman, and later it came out she was totally psycho and chronically abusing her mate / children


[18-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain's also on the lower ranks of gender-related violence for europe, apparently


[18-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It does


[18-Jun-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, got superceded


[18-Jun-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's politically very unpopular to say "maybe everyone is equal under the law"


[18-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because that's immediately interpreted as "maybe women don't deserve special protection from violent men"


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every time I've heard actual statistics it's been that women are like 2x as abusive, especially physically, as men


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain got hit hard by the pendulum effect after Franco died, though it took a while to hit the apex


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like yes men are more likely to rape women, by a huge factor


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but once people actually crawl into some house and start raising kids


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Women abusing men is usually played for laughs


[18-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
the woman is throwing pots and pans


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people will just say it's okay because she had a third kid


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, if the guy throws a punch, he's going to jail


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"lol, she hits him, she's a strong independent women that keeps her man in check, you go girl!"


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody considers that maybe, you know, interventions should start with a light touch


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that physical violence is kind of a human thing


[18-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're an incredibly violent species


[18-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was still very popular in spanish media the last time I consumed it proper half a decade ago


[18-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyway


[18-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's labeled as far/extreme/ultra right in spain is currently still comfortable to the left of the GOP and most "established" right wing european parties


[18-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's a shock for spanish society because "but Franco!"


[18-Jun-19 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh right, they're also huge into tauromaquia and hunting


[18-Jun-19 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bunch of places have been banning sport hunting and bullruns/bullfights


[18-Jun-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's another party with fairly high representation that run on an exclusive platform of just banning bullfights and sport hunting


[18-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thanks to the shitty electoral system, they got no real representation, despite having more votes than a lot of racist independentist regional parties


[18-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
and yes, most of the regionalist/independentist parties are fundamentally racist


[18-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EH Bildu and ERC primarily


[18-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The former is the whole "You're only one of us if you have green eyes, O- bloodtype, and 3 basque last names", the latter has their leaders on record calling non-catalans less than human


[18-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PD-CAT/CIU on the other hand is just this weird shit where they're holdouts from the Carlist civil wars, ancient nobility pissed off they lost power to the plebs, and public embezzlement they need to hide from opposing officials that could uncover it (similar to the socialist shit in Andalusia or the PP in Valencia)


[18-Jun-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Carlists _still_ exist?


[18-Jun-19 06:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bourbonists too


[18-Jun-19 07:12 AM] illumnious#7938
No Collusion, No Obstruction! 

How many times this manbaby tweet these words on his twitter?


[18-Jun-19 07:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1140849141796474880?s=21

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Only a few people showed up for the so-called Impeachment rallies over the weekend. The numbers were anemic, no spirit, no hope. More importantly, No Collusion, No Obstruction!
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[18-Jun-19 07:14 AM] Mikey#7286
y'know


[18-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Mikey#7286
those that are the most guilty scream the loudest that they're innocent


[18-Jun-19 07:27 AM] illumnious#7938
Crooked Hillary https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1140844412127326208?s=21

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Wow!  The State Department said it has identified 30 Security Incidents involving current or former employees and their handling of Crooked Hillary Clinton’s Emails. @FoxNews  This is really big. Never admitted before. Highly Classified Material. Will the Dems investigat...
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[18-Jun-19 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Didn't more people show up to these rallies than showed up for his inauguration


[18-Jun-19 07:27 AM] illumnious#7938
God it's not 2016


[18-Jun-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he thinks that's just part of her name now


[18-Jun-19 07:28 AM] illumnious#7938
Like Tim Apple


[18-Jun-19 10:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[18-Jun-19 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/timesredbox/status/1140880725580898304?s=19

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[18-Jun-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/448069-trump-signals-support-for-uranium-mining-near-grand-canyon

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Trump administration signals support for uranium mining that could...
The Trump administration is signaling a renewed push to consider uranium mining near the Grand Canyon, a move that would undoubtedly ignite a political fight involving environmentalists and the mining industry.
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[18-Jun-19 12:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Lefty Corbyn worse than poor,divided and unstable country. 🇬🇧


[18-Jun-19 12:54 PM] ononim#8141
I love how there's 4% more of them being okay with Scotland leaving than with no Ireland


[18-Jun-19 12:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
that would be the DUP I am guessing.


[18-Jun-19 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
UK, but it's just England (even Cornwall and Isle of Man seceded) plus guerrilla war zone of Belfast held by Orange Order slowly devolving into Protestant ISIS


[18-Jun-19 01:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Where is the world going?


[18-Jun-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably into nuclear war if russia and america have any say in it


[18-Jun-19 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e32b4a65baf74afab5bb5b2aa061f734

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Trump threatens to deport millions beginning next week
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is threatening to remove millions of people living in the country illegally on the eve of formally announcing his re-election bid. In a pair of...
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[18-Jun-19 01:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I doubt any of leaders would like to sit in a bunker with hoard of useless money...


[18-Jun-19 01:39 PM] Lilly#4737
20% of vodka

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[18-Jun-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the corporate eladers sure wouldn't but the war hawk leaders would probably love the thrill of controlling an army from a hidden bunker


[18-Jun-19 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or they wouldnt even get a chance to bunker themselves


[18-Jun-19 01:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/philippines-president-duterte-allies-dominate-senate-race-190522061325987.html

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Philippines: President Duterte's allies dominate Senate race
Opposition shut out as president's allies win majority of 12 Senate seats in midterm elections, official count shows.
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[18-Jun-19 01:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
NO SMONK WEED NAO


[18-Jun-19 01:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SMONK AND U GET SHOT

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[18-Jun-19 02:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://pattern-53-enfield.tumblr.com/post/185666544291/some-4chan-dickhead-just-shot-up-the-dallas

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Sleeping Bags and Battle Flags
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Sleeping Bags and Battle Flags
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[18-Jun-19 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude was such a channer that if it weren't for the video I'd think it was satire


[18-Jun-19 03:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Knock on wood but it seems like this is the only kind of terrorist we get now


[18-Jun-19 03:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo no media article is using the anime pillow picture to shame him


[18-Jun-19 03:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is that actually him? House's walls in pictures of him are red brick


[18-Jun-19 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
I've read what Deus VUlt helmet and daki pic is not him but a repost on his page


[18-Jun-19 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
But tbh with all his LARPing, it wouldn't be surprise if it was him


[18-Jun-19 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
dude legit brought his gladius to shooting for some reason


[18-Jun-19 04:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Aww man I wish it were


[18-Jun-19 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jun-19 05:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ben Thicc-ison


[18-Jun-19 05:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eugh, Speaker Pelosi, I'm trying to run for president but I'm dummy thicc


[18-Jun-19 05:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the clap of my ass cheeks keeps alerting the right


[18-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1560874172377.jpg

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[18-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GAMERS


[18-Jun-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree with him, nintendo should not be the outlier in treating employees like fucking humans


[18-Jun-19 07:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
*1 day after game developers unionize:*
Company CEO:Lets move our business to China


[18-Jun-19 07:32 PM] ononim#8141
Can't fuckig wait for Tankies to defend Chinease GameDev to the death tbh


[18-Jun-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised to see them do that even without unionization


[18-Jun-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
EA and konami especially


[18-Jun-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s actually a wonder the US has an economy anymore given companies could abuse so much more shit in china.


[18-Jun-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
China makes it hard to move into China


[18-Jun-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
China's systems are designed essentially for Chinese capitalist imperialism


[18-Jun-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese companies take over firms abroad and control them from China


[18-Jun-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
then when foreign firms want to do things in China, they don't set up a local office but instead hire a Chinese partner firm


[18-Jun-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way things are always under control by China


[18-Jun-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
China can then easily censor content, ignore international IP law (which creates incentive to hire a Chinese firm to do localization as otherwise a similar firm will just plain rip you off directly and you'll never see a single cent), and spread its influence.


[18-Jun-19 07:39 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-japan-tax/g20-agrees-to-wrap-up-big-tech-tax-rules-by-2020-idUSKCN1TA05F

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Group of 20 finance ministers agreed on Sunday to compile common rules to close ...
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[18-Jun-19 07:39 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Somewhat related?


[18-Jun-19 07:40 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Death and Taxes~


[18-Jun-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-childsoldiers-exclusive/exclusive-pompeo-blocks-inclusion-of-saudis-on-u-s-child-soldiers-list-sources-idUSKCN1TJ25H

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Exclusive: Pompeo blocks inclusion of Saudis on U.S. child soldiers...
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has blocked the inclusion of Saudi Arabia on a U....
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[18-Jun-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
They'll move to india, not china


[18-Jun-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
But I get the message


[19-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Yuri#4154
Bernie did an AMA on Reddit:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/c26oqw/i_am_senator_bernie_sanders_ask_me_anything/


[19-Jun-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1140917689847693312


[19-Jun-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialism was the reason my toast burned this morning


[19-Jun-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not even sure how you rationalize the connection in the first place


[19-Jun-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like obviously there's some prejudice and fallacy at play here, but it just *does not follow*


[19-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything bad is socialist.


[19-Jun-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember this is the group who said "the left just says anything they dislike is racist"


[19-Jun-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right, but there's always some underlying stereotype. The only thing I can come up with here is "socialists are lazy?"


[19-Jun-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is that really what he's trying to suggest?


[19-Jun-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this is "socialism prevents things from getting done"


[19-Jun-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why blame private incompetence I guess


[19-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way your privatized stuff can continue to say that non-privatized stuff is at fault


[19-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
just pretend that somehow the non-privatized is secretly running the incompetent management that seeks only to turn the most profit.


[19-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
It's like having your cake, and complaining that Bernie ate it too.


[19-Jun-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[19-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
bernie stole my bike


[19-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
and turned it into a bike-sharing company


[19-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
>:V


[19-Jun-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there'll ever be a ridesharing cooperative


[19-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/democrats-and-some-republicans-question-trumps-vetting-process-after-shanahan-withdrawal/2019/06/18/a42f4d6e-91fd-11e9-b570-6416efdc0803_story.html


[19-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
that's trump's secret: he doesn't have any vetting process for his nominees


[19-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
>Senators from both parties are asking why they did not have advance notice of the domestic violence incidents in Patrick Shanahan’s family that ended his bid to become President Trump’s permanent defense secretary, calling his nomination’s collapse the latest example of shoddy White House vetting.


[19-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
>Most Democrats and Republicans said they were caught completely off guard by news of Shanahan’s withdrawal, which came amid reports that he was involved years ago in an altercation with his now former wife and then, following their divorce, rushed to defend their teenage son after he attacked his mother with a baseball bat. Shanahan denied his ex-wife’s claim that he himself struck her.


[19-Jun-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/18/18684217/trump-central-park-5-netflix

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Trump still refuses to admit he was wrong about the Central Park 5
"You have people on both sides of that."
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[19-Jun-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr trump can't admit he's wrong


[19-Jun-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://external-preview.redd.it/iKNjNadukFaIFoNcrou9Gwg4HdYinpL3hwEUShWD0K0.png?auto=webp&s=eb5388e617af004517a71f1e02220fe71f3a9ac8

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[19-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's probably a bigger imgur post of that


[19-Jun-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
probably


[19-Jun-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this was easier to find


[19-Jun-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1141079219507793921

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TRUMP: I didn't ask Patrick Shanahan to withdraw his nomination. I just heard about his family troubles yesterday. 

REPORTER: What does that say about the White House vetting process?

TRUMP: We have a great vetting process. https://t.co/Oo991CscUP
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[19-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1141079501633413120

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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1141079501633413120
Holy shit -- years after DNA evidence exonerated them, Trump suggests the Central Park 5 are guilty and refuses to apologize for saying they should be executed.

"You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt." https://t.co/Tb8ENrBJ1I
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[19-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, look at the different shades of orange in this tweet chain


[19-Jun-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
there's 5 of em


[19-Jun-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I genuinely think this is a case of such deeply entrenched racism that, *even if he thought they were innocent,* he would not be upset if they were actually executed


[19-Jun-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if anyone believed that being a murderer/rapist was in your blood due to your ethnic background, it's this guy


[19-Jun-19 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and innocent people *surely* don't admit they're guilty, after all, he doesn't


[19-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/trump-iran-deal-pulled-out-troops-middle-east-uranium-tehran.html

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Trump Has Brilliantly Cornered Himself Where He’s Now Demanding ...
Donald Trump doesn’t even know the rules to chess. Or checkers for that matter.
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[19-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
>The Trump administration, already suffering from a serious credibility deficit with allies, is now in the awkward position of demanding that Tehran comply with an agreement the American president has not only derided but pulled out of!


[19-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
>“Administration officials found themselves Monday grappling with whether to press the remaining parties to the deal, including Britain, France and Germany, to demand that Iran stay in compliance,” the Associated Press reports. “They must also consider if such a stance would essentially concede that the restrictions imposed during the Obama administration, while short of ideal, are better than none.”


[19-Jun-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
> It’s almost like the previous administration weighed the pros and cons and made a decision in the best strategic interest of the country. That feeling you have right now is nostalgia for competence.


[19-Jun-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's alarming how this satire piece from last year is proving to be absolutely true https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-fears-next-election-will-be-decided-by-americans

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Trump Fears Next Election Will Be Decided by Americans
An aide said that the President is panicking over a doomsday scenario in which Americans, sidelined during the 2016 election, play a dominant role in influencing the 2020 contest.
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[19-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/middleeast/iran-us-cyber-network-intl/index.html

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Iran claims it dealt 'heavy blow' to US 'spy network'
Iran's Ministry of Intelligence said on Tuesday that the country has managed to "deal a heavy blow against America's international spy network."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190618135620-01-ali-shamkhani-file-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[19-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[19-Jun-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
would this heavy blow be allegedly shooting at a single drone, missing, and then watching the country's intelligence community self-destruct over the President's bizarre narrative?


[19-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/590732902808158208/doc.PNG

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[19-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But how dare Harvard not want him.


[19-Jun-19 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess this is somebody who recently did something very stupid and shouldn't be remembered by name?


[19-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Parkland survivor who came out as pro-gun


[19-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Got admitted to Harvard because 3.9 GPA and amazing SAT score


[19-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Got it taken away because of this, said he "changed"


[19-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Will be a pundit on Fox News in two years along with that smirking kid at that protest


[19-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>made a CS map of his school to simulate school shootings


[19-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like another person said, he's the kind of guy who would be placed on surveillance as a potential threat


[19-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The amazing thing to me is


[19-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This group was so radicalized under "Islamic extremists are doing all this terrorism and we need to stop it" that they themselves became the number one suspects in any terrorist attack


[19-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess you either become like this guy or that attempted shooter from yesterday.


[19-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or in the middle just seethe on 4chan.


[19-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony at this point I'm pretty sure Iran could deal a heavy blow without taking any action.


[19-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The winning move is to not play and watch the orange man implode about how you're not playing so he destroys all his own game pieces.


[19-Jun-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then gloat about the "great deal" he made with you, whereby he hands you some of his pieces, that you never asked for, and havn't agreed to.


[19-Jun-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not just iran that wins in this scenario


[19-Jun-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pretty much *everyone* trump has ever buddied up to wins


[19-Jun-19 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause they've all struck one-sided deals


[19-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately we're screwed because nobody can stop China


[19-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could've maybe slowed them down enuff to culturally make their people want transparency etc.


[19-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[19-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
gotta shaft farmers instead


[19-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause otherwise farmers will think you didn't fulfill your promises


[19-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
to shaft them


[19-Jun-19 02:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/trump-congress-iran-1366756

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Trump prepares to bypass Congress to take on Iran
But the administration is looking to pressure the clerical regime, not fight it, a senior official said.
https://static.politico.com/20/6c/dfccc7b54737b3955eedb662e0bd/190617-pompeo-gty-773.jpg


[19-Jun-19 02:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Clinton meant no wall, war with Iran, and rural America hurting


[19-Jun-19 02:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now things are different


[19-Jun-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[19-Jun-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
you mean war with russia?


[19-Jun-19 02:37 PM] Crow#5457
or do you mean "Clinton meant no wall, no war with Iran, and no rural America hurting"


[19-Jun-19 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
because I'm pretty sure clinton would've left the nuclear deal intact


[19-Jun-19 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
and wouldn't have started the absurd trade war that's hurting rural america


[19-Jun-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/18/trump-campaign-florida-2020-227160

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Trump Delivers a 'Bizarro World' Re-Election Speech
The president offered a weirdly unchanged reprise of his 2016 themes—except now Americans have a lot more information about the man making the promises.
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[19-Jun-19 02:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/449198-shanahan-drama-shocks-capitol-hill-leaving-pentagon-rudderless

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Shanahan drama shocks Capitol Hill, leaving Pentagon rudderless
Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan abruptly withdrew from consideration Wednesday to lead the Pentagon under a cloud of allegations surrounding domestic violence within his family, leaving senators fuming and the Defense Department rudderle
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[19-Jun-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/dbEJI69

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I would advice you not to use the law as your moral compass
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[19-Jun-19 04:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/emlEugene/status/1141117989124788229?s=19

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https://twitter.com/emlEugene/status/1141117989124788229?s=19
STRIKE ALERT!
There's a strike going on in Hatava, Belarus. Workers at "Zavod Prommehanika" went on a strike, because they have not been paid in full since March this year. (1/?)
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[19-Jun-19 06:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://boingboing.net/2019/06/19/videos-of-organs-being-harvest.html

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Xeni Jardin
https://boingboing.net/2019/06/19/videos-of-organs-being-harvest.html
Videos of organs being harvested from living children are big on F...
Videos of organs being harvested from living children are big on Facebook now
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[19-Jun-19 06:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I had to read the article to ensure it wasn't satire


[19-Jun-19 06:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck Facebook


[19-Jun-19 06:33 PM] illumnious#7938
useless Facebook


[19-Jun-19 06:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/emlEugene/status/1141379187212787713?s=19

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THE STRIKE IS SUCCESSESFUL!

Workers got payed what they were owed for April and May in full. Payment for June is promised to come in on the 28th of June. I hope this will set a presedent for countless workers in Belarus and beyond for organizing and fighting for their rig...
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[19-Jun-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll take to convince all the workers of the US that they're actually workers and not a part of any sort of "middle" class


[19-Jun-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
it'd be incredibly hard to convince someone who labors for a 6 figure wage that they're a part of the working class


[19-Jun-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
even though they are an employee who is working for someone who pays them a salary


[19-Jun-19 06:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lol.
Man working at factory is a working class. 
Man working at office is a working class.
MD at helm of the above is a working class!


[19-Jun-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/trump-hope-hicks-relationship/index.html

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Hicks stopped returning some of Trump's calls, now she's testifying
For Hope Hicks, President Donald Trump is "boss man" no more.
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[19-Jun-19 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/18681845/facebook-moderator-interviews-video-trauma-ptsd-cognizant-tampa

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Three Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose a company in ...
"A sweatshop in America"
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[19-Jun-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So some fukks in a country new to the concept of individualism put up videos of killing children, and we get outraged that Facebook couldn't take the videos down


[19-Jun-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
so we force Facebook to be more aggressive


[19-Jun-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means more people


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
so then those people work in sweatshops and die and then we get outraged again


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem with the way we get outraged.


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't actually fixing the problems by being mad at Facebook for what's on its platform.


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're just creating new problems.


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/politics/epa-rolls-back-obama-coal-emissions/index.html

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EPA rolls back Obama-era plan limiting coal emissions
The Environmental Protection Agency on Wednesday said states can set their own carbon emissions standards for coal-fired power plants -- a rule that the agency itself says could result in 1,400 more premature deaths by 2030 than the Obama-era plan it will replace.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190106234847-trump-digs-coal-super-tease.jpg


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no real accountability anywhere in it.


[19-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because nobody is pressuring congress to act.


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
we should make trump work in a coal mine for a week


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
But even when they do


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
since he claims to dig coal


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress will just censor shit and make things unworkable


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we should be doing is looking at the damn root causes


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
*why* is social media promoting horrible shit?


[19-Jun-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not *how do we enforce rules against it*


[19-Jun-19 07:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’m alright with bad stuff on a platform, I’m not ok with bad stuff happening and it *not* being shined on. But not everyone should be exposed to that though.


[19-Jun-19 08:04 PM] ISamusI#5581
If it’s exposed, shine it as needed and do something about it


[19-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/as-democrats-debate-reparations-for-slavery-americans-are-not-convinced

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As Democrats debate reparations for slavery, polls suggest America...
As Democrats consider the idea of reparations to black Americans for slavery, polling shows that the public is far from convinced about the radical idea -- and overwhelmingly oppose such measures.
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[19-Jun-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
before 9/11, the US was basically on the verge of giving reparations for slavery


[19-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
then 9/11 happened and the US reverted right back to conservative tribalism


[19-Jun-19 08:22 PM] ISamusI#5581
What does reparation mean?


[19-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
money?


[19-Jun-19 08:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
close enough

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[19-Jun-19 08:26 PM] ISamusI#5581
Ah


[19-Jun-19 08:26 PM] ISamusI#5581
Gotcha.


[19-Jun-19 08:27 PM] ISamusI#5581
Thanks


[19-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
reparations mean paying back someone for past wrongs


[19-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
so like someone driving hits a pedestrian and breaks their legs, and the pedestrian sues the driver and wins, the driver pays reparations to the pedestrian


[19-Jun-19 08:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
Unless you’re in China. Then you just get run over again =x.


[19-Jun-19 08:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
Apparently taking care of someone there is more costly than funeral paying. So that’s apparently a thing that happens


[19-Jun-19 08:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
But I get your meaning


[19-Jun-19 08:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’d be glad if that isn’t the case, though. (For China)


[19-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's just saying that the reparations are too great


[19-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
which they are


[19-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
you basically have to take care of the person hit for the rest of their lives if you only injured them


[19-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Broke: large cash payments as reperations


[19-Jun-19 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Woke: giving access to the physical means so blacks can step up to the same economic level as whites.


[19-Jun-19 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bespoke: Ending the colonial settler mentality of WASP America.


[19-Jun-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AtomicAnalyst/status/1141352197235642368

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https://twitter.com/AtomicAnalyst/status/1141352197235642368
"Using nuclear weapons could create conditions for decisive results and the restoration of strategic stability. Specifically, the use of a nuclear weapon will fundamentally change the scope of a battle and create conditions that affect how commanders will prevail in confli...
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[19-Jun-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141

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[19-Jun-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, fuck


[19-Jun-19 09:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This is MAD!


[19-Jun-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had a good run, guess i don't need to find a job after all


[19-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/rowlsmanthorpe/status/1141426544537194496

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Rowland Manthorpe (@rowlsmanthorpe)
https://twitter.com/rowlsmanthorpe/status/1141426544537194496
NEW: the porn block is being delayed... again. In perpetuity. More to come as I get it
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[19-Jun-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More will come

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[20-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpkBj8VDbs

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpkBj8VDbs
Hacker Conference Has Bent The Knee To Leftist Outrage Mob
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[20-Jun-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
...bent the knee? Okay like, is this guy trying to cash in on Game of Thrones terminology? It's a year too late for that.


[20-Jun-19 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.huffpostbrasil.com/entry/joe-biden-wont-demonize-the-rich_n_5d09ac63e4b0f7b74428e4c6

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Joe Biden Promises Rich Donors He Won't 'Demonize' The Wealthy If ...
"No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change,” the former vice president said at a New York fundraiser on Tuesday.
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[20-Jun-19 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"nothing would fundamentally change"


[20-Jun-19 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SPEECH **100**


[20-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Welp


[20-Jun-19 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess we're in for 4 more years of Trump in 2020


[20-Jun-19 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fuuuuck


[20-Jun-19 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This spineless little shitweasel will get the DNC nomination for sure


[20-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> No one's standard of living will change
Man's in the street standard of living changes
Or
Not a single soul can expect standand of living change


[20-Jun-19 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie could use this piece against Biden as an argument in a debate, but again, perhaps mccarthyist sentiment is still too strong within the DNC


[20-Jun-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
again, all this talk by media about "Biden leading the polls" could be just smoke and mirrors... what happened in 2016 with Trump could also happen to Bernie in the DNC primaries


[20-Jun-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*could*


[20-Jun-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
for now i'll remain pessimistic as to avoid too high expectations


[20-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or it's the same as 2016 and Clinton/Bernie


[20-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
party democrats don't want Bernie because he's "not a democrat", or because he's actually for real left-leaning instead of just using leftist ideals as a talking point


[20-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7lEFs-jRR0

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[20-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/19/india/chennai-water-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html

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India's sixth biggest city is almost entirely out of water
The floor of Chembarambakkam Lake is cracked open, dry and sun-baked. About 25 kilometers away, in Chennai, India's sixth largest city, millions of people are running out of water.
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[20-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even summer yet, that's not good


[20-Jun-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/7q5eggpaqc531.jpg

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[20-Jun-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d48562a8d7ee4df1bceec0990205e5b3

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EPA defies climate warnings, gives coal plants a reprieve
WASHINGTON (AP) — Despite scientists' increasingly urgent warnings, the Trump administration ordered a sweeping about-face Wednesday on Obama-era efforts to fight climate change, easing...
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[20-Jun-19 02:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKt8fpoXyhA

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Hong Kong Protesters Clash with Police, New Developments with Extr...
Hong Kong Protesters Clash with Police, New Developments with Extradition Bill There are new developments in Hong Kong as their protest turned violent Wednes...
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[20-Jun-19 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QIyplDaxU&t=0s

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QIyplDaxU&t=0s
Dennis Prager CBT 2
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[20-Jun-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UT715gn-4

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CAPITALISM AND SMARTPHONES || MINI DOCUMENTARY
What if Socialism got involved with smartphones. Do millions of people need to be hurt for us to have smartphones? These are some questions I want you to ask...
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[20-Jun-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/18691403/youtube-kids-content-predator-protection-app-google

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YouTube executives reportedly mulling over removing all children...
A possible solution to one of YouTube’s biggest problems
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[20-Jun-19 02:49 AM] ononim#8141
>YouTube executives reportedly mulling over removing all children


[20-Jun-19 02:50 AM] ononim#8141

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[20-Jun-19 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based and anti-natalist pilled


[20-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlwNZMPVi8

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Subverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlwNZMPVi8
Hackers Release Border Control Data on Dark Web
Hackers Release Border Control Data on Dark Web A federal contractor’s database was hacked and the information was found dark web. Microsoft recently purged ...
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[20-Jun-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-80-animal-rights-as-media-and-pop-culture-punchline

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Citations Needed Podcast
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Episode 80: Animal Rights as Media and Pop Culture Punchline
In countless pop culture and media depictions, animal rights advocates and vegetarians in general, are viewed as effete weirdos, dirty hippies and humorless busybodies. Pop culture staples from "South
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[20-Jun-19 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Philosophical interviews on the politics and liberation theory of animal rights


[20-Jun-19 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Animals taste good


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ur mum's pussy tastes good


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HA


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOT EEM


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
gay


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[20-Jun-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Cool


[20-Jun-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
outstanding political discourse


[20-Jun-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'd take it over the comments section of some political articles anyday


[20-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Animals are biologically incapable of understanding what their rights are


[20-Jun-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean most of them only exist because humans treat them as they would growing a crop


[20-Jun-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Giving a chicken or even a dog the same rights as a human is absurd


[20-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1141197666329726981

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Vox (@voxdotcom)
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1141197666329726981
Under new regulations, a commercial in the UK could portray a girl becoming a mathematician or a boy growing up to be a ballet dancer — but not the other way around. https://t.co/JYeVRPhbLu
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[20-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had to make a new regulation for this why


[20-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The first "programmer" was a woman and some of the best theatre performers ever were men


[20-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this just a relic of BBC censorship stuff


[20-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's because the UK assumes citizens are idiot children that must be treated like sheep lest they hurt themselves


[20-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*"Other employees at Google and YouTube are also reportedly asking executives to consider turning off a feature that automatically plays another video after the one you’re watching is finished"*


[20-Jun-19 07:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
NOW they're considering removing this godawful feature


[20-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only because it led to SPIDERMAN ELSA AMPUTATION LULLABIES


[20-Jun-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/political-confessional-the-75-year-old-woman-who-prefers-to-vote-for-men/

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Political Confessional: The 75-Year-Old Woman Who Prefers To Vote ...
Welcome to Political Confessional, a column about the views that Americans are scared to share with their friends and neighbors. In an increasingly polarized po…
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[20-Jun-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just a reminder that bigotry is the sort of thing so pervasive that it's not uncommon for those discriminated against by it to bear it themselves and perpetuate it, and even when they know their biases and think it's wrong...they may not be able to shake it.


[20-Jun-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, the main person responsible for English using "he" as an assumptive pronoun for unknown gender was a woman.


[20-Jun-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(a product of the 19th century, that one)


[20-Jun-19 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3d2835c3654846d588c92bbe2491be03

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Animated videos: Boy Scouts' new tactic to fight sex abuse
NEW YORK (AP) — Under financial pressure from sex-abuse litigation, the Boy Scouts of America are seeking to bolster their abuse-prevention efforts with a new awareness program featuring...
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[20-Jun-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this sounds great and all but most of the allegations are against scout masters, and counsilers... so how is this going to solve that?


[20-Jun-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'redoing exactly what schools did in the 80's and 90's who didnt actually want to solve the problem but also didnt want to be held liable. These videos also probably won;t address the issue directly and will take steps with "safe language" instead of just directly telling the children "Some of your counsilers want to abuse the fuck out of you, here's the solution"


[20-Jun-19 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Also, if you call this number, since you;re a child we won;t beleive you and just hang up immediately. Have fun kids!"


[20-Jun-19 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Finland, and a lot of other scandanavian/european countries, have a hotline specifically for kids to anonymously call and talk about anything


[20-Jun-19 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a country that uses "think of the children" as an excuse. We sure don't think of the children very often


[20-Jun-19 01:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's because it's a very convenient excuse


[20-Jun-19 02:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The same goes for unborn children - they're the perfect group to advocate for, because they have no voice themselves, and are guaranteed to *cease existing* within 9 months because then they just become regular, worthless "children"


[20-Jun-19 02:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If that sounds cynical, just think about what all of these pro-life groups and laws do for kids growing up in poverty/abusive homes


[20-Jun-19 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they do absolutely nothing. usually they try passing anti abortion laws while cuttign away any safety nets actuall children have to fall back on. The child protection services are useless as shit unless they can somehow make a political statement. and  schools don;t even really educate anymore, they just do forced memorization for testign purposes.


[20-Jun-19 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you;re being abused in school, the school is now more likely to expell the abuse victim over the abuser because it means less liability for them.


[20-Jun-19 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and god help you if you try to report abuse at a fucking college


[20-Jun-19 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no aid anymore, it;s all about lawsuit avoidance because the bully's parents might be loaded and have a team of lawyers at the ready to clean up little johnny's mess for him


[20-Jun-19 02:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://historicly.substack.com/p/a-nazi-memorial-in-new-jersey

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A Ukrainian Nazi Memorial in New Jersey
Editor’s note: This piece is written by Moss Robeson, a historian who is currently working on a book about the CIA’s policies towards Ukraine. For background, please listen to this episode Background In 1928, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) , as formed in Pra...
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[20-Jun-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matthew-kacsmaryk-trump-judicial-nominee-lgbtq-abortion-rights_n_5d0a65efe4b0f7b7442af62f

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Senate Confirms Judge Who Attacked Roe v. Wade, Called Being Trans...
Susan Collins was the only Republican who voted against making Matthew Kacsmaryk a lifetime federal judge.
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[20-Jun-19 03:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449483-trump-says-hell-focus-on-his-base-rather-than-swing-voters-in-2020

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Trump says he doesn't think he needs swing voters to win in 2020
President Trump says that he doesn't believe he needs to appeal to swing voters in order to win reelection.
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[20-Jun-19 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesnt think a lot of things


[20-Jun-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though from the sounds of it his strategy this time is to do what he did last time and try for the electoral college again


[20-Jun-19 04:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP almost lost Texas last time so


[20-Jun-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e4316eb989d5499c9828350de8524963

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Iran Revolutionary Guard shoots down US drone amid tensions
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's Revolutionary Guard shot down a U.S. surveillance drone on Thursday amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington over the collapsing nuclear deal with world...
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[20-Jun-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/84ad15edb7324472bb867852059a0a7a

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Trump says Iran made 'big mistake' in downing US drone
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump declared Thursday that "Iran made a very big mistake" in shooting down a U.S. drone. White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says Trump was briefed...
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[20-Jun-19 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/6/20/18692631/tork-tissue-dispenser-eula-end-user-license-agreement

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A paper towel dispenser with an end-user license agreement is a sp...
A tedious tussle over Tork tissue: how terrible
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[20-Jun-19 06:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/449496-supreme-court-rules-cross-at-state-run-wwi-memorial-can-remain

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Supreme Court rules cross at state-run WWI memorial can remain
The Supreme Court ruled 7-2 Thursday that a large cross in Maryland known as the "Peace Cross" is constitutional and can remain in place.
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[20-Jun-19 06:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Satanists need a larger statue now


[20-Jun-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
another bullshit scotus ruling


[20-Jun-19 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


[20-Jun-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No religion in government period


[20-Jun-19 06:18 PM] ononim#8141
I mean, I am pretty sure I have the most radical stance on clercalism here but I fail to see how a cross on Great War memorial is a big problem


[20-Jun-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People shouldn't even be sworn in on holy books


[20-Jun-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is a state actor paying to maintain a religious symbol


[20-Jun-19 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How is that not a problem


[20-Jun-19 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
State shouldn't even pay for say, the upkeep of a historical church


[20-Jun-19 06:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no "oh this historical religious symbol is okay to endorse" exception


[20-Jun-19 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sacramento-police-officer-shot-20190620-story.html

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Suspect arrested after standoff and the death of a young female co...
A man suspected of fatally shooting a Sacramento police officer was arrested early Thursday following a standoff with law enforcement.
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[20-Jun-19 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
>Several officers were on a domestic disturbance call shortly before 6 p.m. Wednesday, helping a woman collect her belongings and leave a home in the north Sacramento neighborhood when Officer Tara O’Sullivan, 26, was wounded, Sgt. Vance Chandler said.


[20-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr abusive asshole shoots cop helping woman leave his house in the back


[20-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
she died


[20-Jun-19 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/overland-man-threatens-to-kill-every-gay-person-i-can/article_d75ba716-685c-5925-856d-79f79e87e081.html

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Overland man threatens to 'kill every gay person I can' at St. Lou...
Edward A. Terry emailed a Pride STL manager threatening to bring guns to upcoming Pride parade to kill gays, charges say.
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[20-Jun-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So which judge position is this guy seeking? He has the right attitude for every Republican to vote yes.


[20-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really makes the Antifa violence mentions seem like deflection


[20-Jun-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a broken Starbucks window and a turned over trash can are worse than Christchurch


[20-Jun-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I may have shot and killed 80 people, but those monsters turned over a trash can and broke a starbucks window!"


[20-Jun-19 07:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/By4CUw8gxM1/?igshid=obye9i98v44m

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Carpe Donktum on Instagram: “Hillary kicked out of the Oval Offi...
368 Likes, 17 Comments - Carpe Donktum (@carpedonktum) on Instagram: “Hillary kicked out of the Oval Office”
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[20-Jun-19 07:43 PM] Mikey#7286
wat


[20-Jun-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The commander in chief of the Revolutionary Guards is named Hossein Salami


[20-Jun-19 08:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48711077 it is down to BOJO the clown and Jeremy Cunt. Tax cuts for the rich confirmed.

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Johnson and Hunt left in Tory leader race
Michael Gove is eliminated by just two votes in the final ballot of Conservative MPs.
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[20-Jun-19 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Jun-19 08:53 PM] Mikey#7286
if he gets nominated get ready for 4 more years of Trump


[20-Jun-19 08:53 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[20-Jun-19 09:51 PM] Lilly#4737
now it's legal to grow cannabis and poppy in russia, But ya must have special license


[20-Jun-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449424-roy-moore-says-he-will-run-for-senate-in-alabama

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Roy Moore says he will run for Senate in Alabama
Roy Moore, the controversial former Alabama Supreme Court justice who lost his 2017 Senate bid, announced on Thursday that he will seek to challenge Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) for his seat in 2020.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mooreroy_120517getty.jpg


[20-Jun-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Poll numbers?


[20-Jun-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the teens.


[20-Jun-19 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[20-Jun-19 10:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Lilly where do i get one


[20-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48711229

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Drone downing 'accidental' - Trump
The US president says Iran made a "big mistake", but found hard to believe it was intentional.
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[20-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[20-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Strongest backdown ever


[20-Jun-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden doesn't seem to be doing too hot


[20-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
biden went full retard tbh


[20-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good now we can focus on better people


[20-Jun-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean the DNC just has to spend more money to shill him.


[20-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hero-9-11-first-responder-makes-emotional-plea-in-his-final-interview-from-hospice-care

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Hero 9/11 first responder makes emotional plea in his 'final inter...
Hero 9/11 responder and retired NYPD Detective Luis Alvarez gave his last ever interview on "Shepard Smith Reporting" Thursday, to plead with federal lawmakers to replenish the 9/11 victims fund.
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[20-Jun-19 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/joe-biden-cory-booker-segregation.amp

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[20-Jun-19 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SPEECH **200**


[20-Jun-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trying to use Trump tricks I see


[20-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a fairly... uh, not all that accurate bait title


[21-Jun-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What should Booker even apologize for tho


[21-Jun-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He wasn't even being uncivil


[21-Jun-19 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing


[21-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-democratic-candidates-are-the-most-progressive-on-criminal-justice-issues/

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Democratic Candidates Answer Yes-Or-No Questions About Criminal Ju...
There are a lot of people running for president. That record-breaking field has made it hard to compare the candidates ideologically — overall and on individua…
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[21-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But "Biden Is Now Demanding That Cory Booker Apologize for Saying That Segregation Was Bad" is a bs article title


[21-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's creating an entirely different story for what happened


[21-Jun-19 12:26 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah title is just wrong


[21-Jun-19 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden said he was able to work with segregationists to move progress forward, Booker et al condemn Biden for saying such a thing is at all possible and, Biden says that's an overreaction


[21-Jun-19 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I think Biden is a massive fucking tool


[21-Jun-19 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that article title is just bs


[21-Jun-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind a lot of this is GOP members trying to erase the Southern Strategy from existence


[21-Jun-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"lel the Democrats were the racist party"- person who in at all other times does not see racism as bad


[21-Jun-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Booker is a no-hoper


[21-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Lilly#4737
sorrey


[21-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-a-supreme-court-ruling-could-supercharge-republicans-advantages-in-the-states/

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How A Supreme Court Ruling Could Supercharge Republicans’ Advant...
For months, Supreme Court obsessives (guilty as charged) have been waiting for the court to decide whether to permit the Trump administration to add a question …
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[21-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republicans hav a clear plan


[21-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
mix gerrymandering with undercounting hispanics


[21-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
first you undercount them by intimidatingly asking if they're a citizen, then you say "we only use citizens for districting", so you remove them twice


[21-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way, rural districts full of extreme Republican whites get more power


[21-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the while, crakking and pakking districts as necessary


[21-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You ready for Republicans to argue that we need to end Jus Soli, @Itsthinking?


[21-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
(so that children of immigrants don't become citizens, so that there can be a whole underclass that doesn't count for districting purposes)


[21-Jun-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make them count for 3/5 of a citizen


[21-Jun-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people legitimately believe in the way it was done in _Starship Troopers_ as a good citizenship deciding method


[21-Jun-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in


[21-Jun-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Service guarantees citizenship


[21-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[21-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should have that if you serve in the US military and aren't a citizen


[21-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Personally I'm more interested in  someone on the left with a Trumpian attitude


[21-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You still don't understand why the left and right are different.


[21-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The things that make someone be on the left also make them not be Trumpian.


[21-Jun-19 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
D D R   Z E I T   I M    A M E R I K A


[21-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
A "left" Trump would just be Stalin


[21-Jun-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who would be "right" on virtually ever issue in existence.


[21-Jun-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just with a thin veil of communism.


[21-Jun-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You ever read _Joe Steel?_


[21-Jun-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[21-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.gotoquiz.com/what_kind_of_socialist_are_you

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[21-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
m e m e    q u i z


[21-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
m e m e    q u i z


[21-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
m e m e    q u i z


[21-Jun-19 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
thanks i already knew

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[21-Jun-19 02:27 AM] ononim#8141
I ve got fucking Great Leap Forwaded


[21-Jun-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
Tfw will be beat up by sparrows


[21-Jun-19 02:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim

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[21-Jun-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Concept is "What if Stalin were born in America?"


[21-Jun-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executes a bunch of SCOTUS justices, MacArthur, etc


[21-Jun-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executes Einstein for not telling him about nukes fast enough


[21-Jun-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then J. Edgar Hoover becomes dictator.


[21-Jun-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/20/republican-house-2020-campaigns-1372388

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Republicans fear campaign arm is stumbling in fight for the House
The NRCC chief tried to do damage control at a closed-door caucus meeting.
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[21-Jun-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
California GOP dying really didn't help.


[21-Jun-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously that is deader than the Alaskan/South Dakotan Democratic Party


[21-Jun-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except you know there's still what, 2 million plus Republican Californians?


[21-Jun-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457

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[21-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
from that meme quiz


[21-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, what's mutualist?


[21-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)

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Mutualism (economic theory)
Mutualism is an economic theory and anarchist school of thought that advocates a society with free markets and occupation and use, or usufruct, property norms. One implementation of this scheme involves the establishment of a mutual-credit bank that would lend to producers at...


[21-Jun-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow What Pierre-Joseph Proudhon proposed way back when. Not as left as Marx, but advocating for worker's controls of the MoP and member-owned credit unions.


[21-Jun-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
>Therefore, mutualism has been retrospectively characterized sometimes as being a form of individualist anarchism and as ideologically situated between individualist and collectivist forms of anarchism as well.


[21-Jun-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
was wondering since you got 76% on mutualist and anarcho-communist, so anarcho-communist probably got picked just because it was first on the alphabet


[21-Jun-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
and then I got 61% on mutualist too


[21-Jun-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised my #1 or #2 wasn't social democrat


[21-Jun-19 03:16 AM] Plonkett#6636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwFUidx5MSE

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Bernie Sanders Tries To Ruin Video Games
Video games are a complex thing, especially when you're trying to buy a new home too. This week Bernie Sanders decided he wanted to weigh in on something he ...
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[21-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It’s TheQuartering so I’m not even gonna Touch that


[21-Jun-19 03:23 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
He said wants to push for unionization of the gaming industry


[21-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
If that counts as ruining video games then I hope they ruin the fuck out of them


[21-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[21-Jun-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s easy to relocate to india and set up shop to fight unions. but game quality would suffer immensely and they;d lose a lot of money


[21-Jun-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you would get a lot more games like sonic boom, sonic 06, and bubsy 3d where they took a half finished game, relocated it to a new studio, and then just pushed it out  to please stock holders.


[21-Jun-19 03:31 AM] Mikey#7286
that's uh


[21-Jun-19 03:31 AM] Mikey#7286
apparently what happened with Metroid Prime 4's original development


[21-Jun-19 03:31 AM] Mikey#7286
:T


[21-Jun-19 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they rushed it out half finished and early to please stock holders?


[21-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[21-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Mikey#7286
it was being developed in multiple parts of the world


[21-Jun-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was likely being kept heavy tabs on instead of just shipping it to a studio who had no idea what they were doing with a broken half finished game


[21-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
before Nintendo was unhappy with it, and then Retro stepped in and decided to do it all themselves


[21-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
so development restarted under Retro and Nintendo


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really want to see how bad it was


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They approved Other M and Federation Force


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This must have been fucking awful


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the example i;m giving is more like sonic boom where it was pushed through multiple studios, and thne when the last studio tried to fix the shit, thye were denied and told tor elease it broken by sales execs


[21-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Mikey#7286
they must realized how those were received


[21-Jun-19 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
tho tbh


[21-Jun-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably gave it to retro so that it wouldnt end up like other M and federation


[21-Jun-19 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
if Sakamoto was in charge, they might have shipped it anyway


[21-Jun-19 03:35 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[21-Jun-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[21-Jun-19 03:36 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe it was too different from the first three Prime games


[21-Jun-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe someday there will be a development interview


[21-Jun-19 03:36 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe


[21-Jun-19 03:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
They probably expected Other M to do better than it did


[21-Jun-19 03:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
iirc, prerelease trailers and whatnot were really well received


[21-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah before Other M, the series was always well received


[21-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Mikey#7286
from Super to Prime 3


[21-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
as for FF, literally it's biggest problem was being the first game in about 7 years being a spin-off


[21-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
had it released with a new game people would have been like "eh, neat spin-off"


[21-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Mikey#7286
i hope Prime 4 is more like 1


[21-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Mikey#7286
or if it's more like 3 and they give Samus a voice


[21-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan loved Other M more than the Prime games


[21-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Mikey#7286
give her some fucking emotion


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Other M Samus was like manga Samus


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah well Japan doesn't normally like the series


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The manga is more well known than the actual games there


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah like I said


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
hell they srtaight up admitted they only announced 4 as early as they did because they thought backlash to Samus Returns being on 3DS was going to be bad


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Mikey#7286
the video game series is far more popular here in the west


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Fusion did a good job giving Samus some emotion


[21-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
more of that please


[21-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Mikey#7286
well i mean if they make her fully voiced


[21-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Mikey#7286
tho tbh


[21-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Mikey#7286
in Other M the voice actor was told to talk like that


[21-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/06/oregon-republican-senator-issues-threat-to-state-troopers.html

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Amid Oregon Senate Republicans' threats to walk out of the Capitol this week, Sen. Brian Boquist, R-Dallas, suggested in a television interview Wednesday that he would shoot and potentially kill any state trooper sent to haul him unwillingly back to the building.
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[21-Jun-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just resign if you don't want to do your job that badly, holy shit.


[21-Jun-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the unholy matrimony of an elected senator and a sovereign citizen


[21-Jun-19 06:09 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Can somebody explain why private companies in the U.S can bypass the First Amendment


[21-Jun-19 06:10 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
How is it fair for a company to be able to censor things that the government can’t


[21-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For the same reason you can tell people that walk into your home that they're not welcome


[21-Jun-19 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's their money and their time people are wasting


[21-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get on a soapbox at Walmart and start yelling about how blakk people don't deserve welfare because they can't get jobs on their own and spend all their time on what isn't real music


[21-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
see how long it takes for someone to tell you to leave.


[21-Jun-19 06:20 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
It just seems like it gives more power to corporations


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart drove all the other grocery chains out of business pretty much


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if Walmart wants to say something politically to its shoppers


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't disagree


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if Walmart is being shitty, nobody can really stop it aside of the gov't


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[21-Jun-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
congrats


[21-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't caused by corporations controlling your speech on their services


[21-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is a symptom of letting capitalism reach a state of oligopolies and monopolies.


[21-Jun-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is the *inevitable* result of low amounts of regulation


[21-Jun-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's quite funny to see conservatives whining about liberal corporations controlling social ideas after they intentionally took down obstacles to corporations amassing power


[21-Jun-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason they're whining to begin with really is because the liberal corporations oppose the fossil fuel corporations


[21-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fossil fuel corporations want to suppress evidence of harm and shill to shit


[21-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then the liberal corporations start pushing actual truth out there and shutting people down for misinformation and harassment


[21-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
woooops, pretty much


[21-Jun-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't help that liberal corporations pretend to care about race and sexual orientations and thus are required to shut down people implying that blakks/gays/trans are inhuman


[21-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
liberal corporations / corporations that care about their PR for certain demographics


[21-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh, and liberals aren't fond of the effects whereby you can't even discuss trans people anymore because any mention of sex gets you shut down, but they're powerless to do anything because conservatives won't let them hav representation anyways and like to shut down those things, and so make things solely about race and fossil fuels etc.


[21-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially conservatives just want to change what liberal corporations censor you over, they don't want private free speech.


[21-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll notice they only get upset about conservatives, and especially ones spouting fake news and harassment, getting shut down.


[21-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They never raise a fuss if some liberal gets shut down for talking about sexuality.


[21-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism's number one goal is to control the media, the media is its main way to ensure people follow its goals


[21-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's really not a fan of someone else having control of the media.


[21-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Authoritarianism, not specifically fascism


[21-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but it's not like the two are easy to separate anymore.


[21-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Long gone are the days of European monarchs.


[21-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Venezuela and China are big on media censorship, I'm not sure I'd call them fascist


[21-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, considering what china does with Uighurs...


[21-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48700786

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Searching for truth in China's 're-education' camps
China is accused of locking up Uighurs in camps - which it denies. The BBC went inside one of them.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1FAB/production/_107470180_dsc05820.jpg


[21-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's not much info.


[21-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
What can you expect from a country that runs down civilians in tanks


[21-Jun-19 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
like the US? :^)


[21-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't run him down, they grabbed him off the road.


[21-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and it's unknown what they did to him after that)


[21-Jun-19 06:40 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
I mean all countries are pretty bad but China is really conscious about hiding the many skeletons in the Party’s closet


[21-Jun-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be interesting to see whether it or Russia's strategy pays off better


[21-Jun-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's strategy is one of the big non-fascist approaches to authoritarianism


[21-Jun-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of hiding everything, obfuscate it


[21-Jun-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
convince everyone that you probably didn't do as much as they say, that if you did, it was warranted, and that even if it wasn't, it's only what everyone does


[21-Jun-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
While everyone's busy trying to figure out if they should even care, you can then invade another country that few care about.


[21-Jun-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile China's the classic "no, that didn't happen, and if you tell anyone it did, you're going to jail with them"


[21-Jun-19 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I think Russia's is probably a better tactic because it generally only requires a little bit of disinformation and human gullibility does the rest


[21-Jun-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the main reason to believe it's better is Russia's greatest strength is diplomacy.


[21-Jun-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know how people really operate.


[21-Jun-19 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
ignorance and greed, mostly


[21-Jun-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
China only seems to get its way after throwing tons of money at people.


[21-Jun-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia just becomes friends with every scummy person alive in the meantime.


[21-Jun-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
A little seduction here, a little drinking there, a few businessmen offering "favors", bam


[21-Jun-19 07:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48714414

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Trump 'approved Iran strikes but pulled back'
US media reports say the president approved pre-dawn strikes for Friday, but rolled back the plan.
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[21-Jun-19 09:06 AM] ISamusI#5581
Oh shei* y'all talking about Metroid? 😄


[21-Jun-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
ye


[21-Jun-19 09:06 AM] Mikey#7286
my favorite vidya series tbh


[21-Jun-19 09:06 AM] ISamusI#5581
Nice ^^ Tied for favorite if not second favorite series


[21-Jun-19 09:07 AM] Mikey#7286
heh~


[21-Jun-19 09:07 AM] ISamusI#5581
Which one's your favs game wise?


[21-Jun-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
prolly super followed by Prime 1


[21-Jun-19 09:08 AM] Mikey#7286
the only one i don't like that i've finished was Other M


[21-Jun-19 09:08 AM] ISamusI#5581
Gotcha gotcha


[21-Jun-19 09:09 AM] ISamusI#5581
I like MZM and Prime 2 the most overall


[21-Jun-19 09:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Zero Mission and Prime 2 are awesome as well


[21-Jun-19 09:09 AM] ISamusI#5581
yeah - prime 2 had more than 1 while not being as different as 3


[21-Jun-19 09:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Prime 2 probably wins my vote for most unique game in the trilogy


[21-Jun-19 09:10 AM] Mikey#7286
Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress are amazing and have really good musc


[21-Jun-19 09:10 AM] ISamusI#5581
Very, I adore Torvus' main theme


[21-Jun-19 09:10 AM] Mikey#7286
especially torvus bog's red soil remix


[21-Jun-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Prime 3 was great but it felt lacking in comparison to 1 and 2


[21-Jun-19 09:11 AM] ISamusI#5581
you want a really nice remix of Torvus' main theme as well as Elysia's?


[21-Jun-19 09:11 AM] ISamusI#5581
(Not mine)


[21-Jun-19 09:11 AM] Mikey#7286
sure~


[21-Jun-19 09:11 AM] ISamusI#5581
I'll fetch them


[21-Jun-19 09:14 AM] ISamusI#5581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMfQRKRedA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW2A1DBjobs

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FireoftheNight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMfQRKRedA
Torvus Clockwork ~ Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (OC Remix)
A Metroid Prime 2: Echoes OverClocked Remix Remixer: DarkeSword Song: Torvus Bog http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01507/ This isn't mine. NOTE: Add &fmt=18 at...
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FireoftheNight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW2A1DBjobs
Yellow Valkyrie ~ Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (OC Remix)
A Metroid Prime 3: Corruption OverClocked Remix Remixder: DarkeSword Song: Elysia - Skytown http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01661/ This isn't mine. NOTE: Add...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pW2A1DBjobs/hqdefault.jpg


[21-Jun-19 09:15 AM] Mikey#7286
not bad


[21-Jun-19 09:15 AM] ISamusI#5581
I quite ejnoy them


[21-Jun-19 09:18 AM] ISamusI#5581
By far OST Fav is Phendrana drifts (main), Multiplayer Theme 1&2, Escape from Dark Aether (plus MZM/Original escape tunes), Elysia landing site theme/main theme?, Emperor Ing phase 1/2  (Aghhhhhh, so goood), And my all time favorite - MZM Title screen


[21-Jun-19 09:18 AM] Mikey#7286
phendrana drifts is great


[21-Jun-19 09:19 AM] ISamusI#5581
Tallon Overworld has a good world theme as well (after being there for a bit)


[21-Jun-19 09:19 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[21-Jun-19 09:19 AM] ISamusI#5581
Ah, and then the crashed frigate's music


[21-Jun-19 09:20 AM] ISamusI#5581
quite lovely, and peaceful


[21-Jun-19 09:20 AM] Mikey#7286
mhm


[21-Jun-19 09:20 AM] ISamusI#5581
Oh, how interesting


[21-Jun-19 09:20 AM] ISamusI#5581
I think I just figured something out -


[21-Jun-19 09:21 AM] ISamusI#5581
The boss music for the bomb boss in 1 has the same beat as the Emperor Ings phase 1


[21-Jun-19 09:21 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[21-Jun-19 09:21 AM] ISamusI#5581
I think


[21-Jun-19 09:21 AM] ISamusI#5581
at least with the long starting tunes


[21-Jun-19 09:23 AM] ISamusI#5581
https://youtu.be/owt7Cxk43bo?t=15 vs https://youtu.be/KqDH8bPtWMQ?t=3

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The Metroid Music Channel
https://youtu.be/owt7Cxk43bo?t=15
Metroid Prime Music - Hive Mecha / Incinerator Drone Boss Theme
Music from the original GCN / WII game: "Metroid Prime" [2002|03 / 2009]
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RandomGuy 79
https://youtu.be/KqDH8bPtWMQ?t=3
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Music- Emperor Ing Battle 1
Music from the video game "Metroid Prime 2: Echoes"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KqDH8bPtWMQ/hqdefault.jpg


[21-Jun-19 09:27 AM] Mikey#7286
hmmm


[21-Jun-19 09:28 AM] ISamusI#5581
Timing of said notes relative to their own songs are similar as well, it seems


[21-Jun-19 09:28 AM] ISamusI#5581
might be a remix


[21-Jun-19 09:28 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[21-Jun-19 09:29 AM] ISamusI#5581
I hear that apparently the Multiplayer theme is a remix of Red Brinstar from SM


[21-Jun-19 09:29 AM] ISamusI#5581
which, actually seems so


[21-Jun-19 09:29 AM] ISamusI#5581
but I'm taking up all the nerding, you nerd some


[21-Jun-19 09:30 AM] Mikey#7286
heh


[21-Jun-19 09:30 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm good for now :p


[21-Jun-19 09:30 AM] ISamusI#5581
okay =3


[21-Jun-19 09:31 AM] ISamusI#5581
I'm headed off (actually), so good night xD


[21-Jun-19 09:31 AM] Mikey#7286
gnite


[21-Jun-19 01:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html
Trump Approves Strikes on Iran, but Then Abruptly Pulls Back
Military and diplomatic officials still expected a strike as of 7 p.m. Thursday in retaliation for Iran shooting down an unmanned American drone.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/21/us/politics/20dc-military1-sub/20dc-arms1-sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Jun-19 01:34 PM] ononim#8141
```Officials said the president had initially approved attacks on a handful of Iranian targets, like radar and missile batteries.

The operation was underway in its early stages when it was called off, a senior administration official said. Planes were in the air and ships were in position, but no missiles had been fired when word came to stand down, the official said.```


[21-Jun-19 04:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Apparently it was called off after someone told him around 150 would be killed and it would not be a portioninal response to a drone.


[21-Jun-19 04:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Heaven help us if a US soldier I'd injured


[21-Jun-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's his response to a drone being shot down... oh god


[21-Jun-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*soldier gets hurt* LAUNCH THE NUKES


[21-Jun-19 04:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/449688-time-reporter-confronts-trump-were-you-threatening-me-with

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Time magazine: Trump threatened reporter with prison time
President Trump reportedly appeared to threaten a Time magazine reporter with prison time after a photographer tried to take a picture of a letter from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, Time
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/firestorm_trumpdonald_061319getty.jpg


[21-Jun-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did


[21-Jun-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can;t have those precious kim jong un momentos gettign out in the world


[21-Jun-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a6cfc870fb8e4f9ca2dce63471eefce0

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https://apnews.com/a6cfc870fb8e4f9ca2dce63471eefce0
Pentagon is without a chief as US faces many global threats
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's a difficult time for the Pentagon to be without a permanent U.S. defense secretary. The Trump administration is grappling with an escalating crisis with Iran, an...
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[21-Jun-19 04:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
So,


[21-Jun-19 04:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
When does this stop being political


[21-Jun-19 04:57 PM] ISamusI#5581
And start being worrying


[21-Jun-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when trump decides that a nuke is the proper response to a minor offense


[21-Jun-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8d5f00b17403495db198e993aeb1c73c

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China's Xi pushes economic reform at North Korea summit
BEIJING (AP) — Chinese President Xi Jinping offered encouragement for North Korea's focus on economic development in a speech in Pyongyang, turning to a topic Beijing has long pressed with its...
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[21-Jun-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fd28ee8604eb49ad88fbc95e1b5cf512

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Wisconsin Supreme Court upholds GOP's lame-duck laws
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin's conservative-controlled Supreme Court on Friday upheld lame-duck laws limiting the powers of Democratic Gov. Tony Evers and Attorney General Josh Kaul, handing...
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[21-Jun-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said it;s both very political, and very worrying


[21-Jun-19 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318129883421081600/591657564710633581/b06c66b.png

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[21-Jun-19 07:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When someone has a stroke mid-sentence


[21-Jun-19 07:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think he means that Iran is weaker than it was before?


[21-Jun-19 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[21-Jun-19 07:56 PM] ISamusI#5581
As in, when he looked over before, it seems they were unstoppable, which seems to indicate that that’s not what they are now


[21-Jun-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.gyazo.com/255a16a79931f8ec6d2c8a696ad34415.png

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😨 💥 shrugpony 

[21-Jun-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142055383193804801

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142055383193804801
....Death to America. I terminated deal, which was not even ratified by Congress, and imposed strong sanctions. They are a much weakened nation today than at the beginning of my Presidency, when they were causing major problems throughout the Middle East. Now they are Bust...
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[21-Jun-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[21-Jun-19 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a reply to an older tweet


[21-Jun-19 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He says Iran said "death to America"


[21-Jun-19 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They had us on the first half, not gonna lie


[21-Jun-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh ok


[21-Jun-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s the middle of one of his long twitter rants


[21-Jun-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he can;t just make a vlog at this point


[21-Jun-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.dailywire.com/news/48703/state-government-meeting-opens-hail-satan-prayer-joseph-curl

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/48703/state-government-meeting-opens-hail-satan-prayer-joseph-curl
State Government Meeting Opens With ‘Hail Satan’ Prayer; Offic...
A government meeting in Alaska opened with a prayer to Satan after a Satanic Temple member won the right to deliver the invocation, prompting about a dozen officials and attendees to walk out.
https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph/public/uploads/2019/06/satan.jpg?itok=HSvmH88x


[21-Jun-19 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[21-Jun-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[21-Jun-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least they haven't gotten to the "parody religion" step


[21-Jun-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like they briefly tried with "parody marriage"


[21-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449793-trump-pushes-back-on-latest-allegation-of-sexual-assault

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Trump denies new sexual assault allegation: 'I've never met this p...
President Trump on Friday denied that he sexually assaulted writer E. Jean Carroll after the longtime advice columnist accused the president of raping her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_06032019getty.jpg


[22-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I never met this person in my life"


[22-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/06/19/Magazine/ejeancarroll/5new.w700.h467.jpg

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[22-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dementia.


[22-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah.


[22-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Compulsive liar with delusions of intelligence


[22-Jun-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-us-force-against-iran-disaster-130627476.html

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Putin says use of US force against Iran would be 'disaster'
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said any use of force by the US against Iran would lead to disaster as tensions escalate between Washington and Tehran.  "The US says it does not rule out the use of force... This would be a disaster for the region," Putin said dur...
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[22-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
idk what iran's views on russia are now, but I know back in the 50's iran hated the USSR


[22-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is very good at changing people's minds.


[22-Jun-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8ab1cd3be0574c11b5be56706020c3f2

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Roy Moore in uphill battle to woo skeptical Alabama voters
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — In a state that has long been reliably Republican, Roy Moore faces an uphill battle in winning over skeptical voters to take back the Alabama Senate seat he lost two years...
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[22-Jun-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449803-trump-i-think-i-win-the-election-easier-if-Democrats-launch-impeachment#

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Trump: 'I think I win the election easier' if Democrats launch imp...
President Trump said Friday he believes he will have an easier path to re-election if House Democrats go forward with impeachment proceedings.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_060119getty.jpg


[22-Jun-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit


[22-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, '“Why does the mere mention of my name cause people to get up in arms in Washington D.C?” Moore said. “Is it because I believe in God, and marriage and morality in our county? ... Are these things embarrassing to them?”'


[22-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, yes, it is because you believe in a God that likes 'em young and vulnerable and it's kind of embarrassing.


[22-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's no longer the days where people seriously believe marriage is between a man and a little girl.


[22-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't worry


[22-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's polling in the teens


[22-Jun-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
His poll numbers might want to learn how to say no properly.


[22-Jun-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But seriously it's a bipartisan group making fun of him, even on the most shitpost heavy sites


[22-Jun-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he lost, Its


[22-Jun-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he had won the election Republicans would still be denying he did anything wrong.


[22-Jun-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he lost, and Republicans hate losing


[22-Jun-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if ditching morality doesn't make them win, then they stop ditching it, on that specific thing.


[22-Jun-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f320309a26ff4e36b0945954b03201e5

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Oregon senators face $500 fines for fleeing, threaten to sue
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Republican state senators in Oregon continued to engage in a high-stakes game of brinksmanship Friday with Democratic lawmakers, remaining away from the capitol for the second...
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[22-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, what a brave decision to....not govern.


[22-Jun-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
because liberals might be able to win


[22-Jun-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it really is all about winning by any means necessary.


[22-Jun-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder most brexiters would abandon brexit if it meant Jeremy Corbyn becomes PM


[22-Jun-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not if it sank the economy and led to the dissolution of the UK


[22-Jun-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Owning the libs is currently the most important goal to conservatives, at least in the US and Europe


[22-Jun-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our country is in perpetual nuclear fire, and our citizens are all dead, but boy did we sure shwo them libermarols!


[22-Jun-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html

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By LISA FRIEDMAN
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html
Cost of New E.P.A. Coal Rules: Up to 1,400 More Deaths a Year
The Trump administration unveiled its overhaul of pollution rules for coal-fired power plants, and its analysis shows an increase of up to 1,400 premature deaths annually.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/22/climate/22CLI-CLEANPOWER1/22CLI-CLEANPOWER1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[22-Jun-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans enjoy killing 4 people a day if it means profits are higher.


[22-Jun-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'd probably enjoy killing people even without profit, but the profit makes it sweeter


[22-Jun-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well those 4 are poor people.


[22-Jun-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they deserve it, clearly.


[22-Jun-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/449241-gop-senator-introduces-bill-to-hold-online-platforms-liable-for-political

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GOP senator introduces bill to hold online platforms liable for po...
Sen.
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[22-Jun-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), who has sought to make a name for himself as one of the Republican Party's sharpest tech critics, is introducing legislation that would chip away at the legal shield preventing online companies from being held liable for content posted by their users.

Hawley on Wednesday will introduce a bill requiring companies to prove they are politically "neutral" before they receive protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA), which largely gives internet platforms legal immunity over content posted on their sites by third parties.  

The Missouri Republican's legislation comes after Republican lawmakers for more than a year have threatened to gut Section 230 over allegations that the top social media companies in the world are biased against conservatives, a claim that the tech companies have categorically denied and say has not been substantiated by any evidence.


[22-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like


[22-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What even are private property rights


[22-Jun-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but guys he just wants to post his nazi ramblings on twitter with evewryone else, think of the poor rich racist in all this!


[22-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So like


[22-Jun-19 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey remember when conservatives were all about small government


[22-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if I want to have a forum all about being a libertarian


[22-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't ban the people who only come on it to shitpost and denigrate the ideology?


[22-Jun-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservatives are for small regulation big authority


[22-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like having a house


[22-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And you are legally not allowed to kick someone out who shits on your floor


[22-Jun-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[22-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guts any attempt at free association


[22-Jun-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this bill is basically a big ol equivalent of someone sayign they shouldnt be held accountable for their actions, it should be th eplatform thye preformed said actions on that should get all the damage


[22-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because the platform isn't neutral


[22-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically


[22-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can never ever have a platform that argues one way or another


[22-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can never effectively have an organization campaign for your ideology and kick out people there to just ruin it


[22-Jun-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the conservatives banned, were banned for posting insane racist, homophobic, nazi shit, but that;s besides the point. It;s clearly twitter whose at fault here.


[22-Jun-19 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I keep telling Republicans who want this desperately to be careful what they wish for


[22-Jun-19 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they legally won't be able to stop liberal shitposting


[22-Jun-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2a3e1adab1c243a49ba789bd2934e902

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After calling off strikes on Iran, Trump suggests patience
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he abruptly called off the swiftly planned military strikes on Iran because the likely deaths of 150 Iranians would have been so out of...
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[22-Jun-19 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the patience to swiftly launch an all out war attack for a drone strike. That patience... totally


[22-Jun-19 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's like Gordon Ramsay advocating for self control


[22-Jun-19 04:16 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[22-Jun-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know that when this happens it's because someone managed to drag him off into a corner and convince him that it was his idea to call it off


[22-Jun-19 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
70% of the time, it's obvious who caught his ear when he suddenly has a new opinion, because he has a tendency to parrot their phrases


[22-Jun-19 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or because he went off to tea with some autocrat and came home calling them a great guy


[22-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plot twist: it was a Russian agent


[22-Jun-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wanting to prevent Trump from bitchslapping their ally


[22-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin/putin-hit-by-ratings-drop-tells-russians-a-better-life-awaits-idUSKCN1TL19B

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As ratings drop, Putin defends record, says better life awaits...
President Vladimir Putin told Russians on Thursday that there were signs that ye...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190620&t=2&i=1399723304&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5J0UT


[22-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
>President Vladimir Putin told Russians on Thursday that there were signs that years of falling real wages, which have dented his popularity, were drawing to an end and that a government program would deliver higher living standards.


[22-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[22-Jun-19 04:42 AM] ononim#8141
Grrrrr this shit is everywhere on tv


[22-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Background map looks like a Defcon game about to end


[22-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48727972

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Trump dismisses rape allegation as 'fiction'
Writer E. Jean Carroll says Mr Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s.
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[22-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Says he never met her but there's a photo of him meeting her


[22-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
He clearly has a twin


[22-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There is?


[22-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, there is...


[22-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
what a moron


[22-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Jun-19 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's plausible to say he wouldn't remember everyone he's met at every party he's gone to


[22-Jun-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This has echoes of the Kavanaugh/Ford thing


[22-Jun-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
except this time the defendant will not have meticulous notes, he will have eaten them


[22-Jun-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
still gonna brush this off like nothing, though


[22-Jun-19 06:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if this was a legit claim this lady had a number of opportunities to come out about it.  trump's 2000 bid, mid to late 00s when trump did the radio show, during the  obama years, the 2016 election, the muller investigation.... 

The point i'm making is her coming about it now is highly suspect.  if it even happened at all.


[22-Jun-19 06:26 AM] ISamusI#5581
This is a much calmer mine field than the other one Shush, feel free to delve in


[22-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Shush#9067
You get it quite frequently, once someone reaches enough notoriety or affluence that suddenly claims from a long forgotten past bubble to the surface.
And in that is always kind of suspicious, it coincides nicely with the 'Always believe the purported victim' mentality that has swept social media.


[22-Jun-19 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48727133

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Russia suspends flights to Georgia amid unrest
President Vladimir Putin bans airlines from flying to the country following a surge of violent unrest.
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[22-Jun-19 07:34 AM] ISamusI#5581
To georgia or america overall?


[22-Jun-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The country of Georgia...


[22-Jun-19 07:35 AM] ISamusI#5581
O-Oh


[22-Jun-19 08:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Memories of when people thought Russia was rolling tanks into the state of georgia

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[22-Jun-19 09:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if anyone's used cloud seeding to force rain to fall before reaching certain areas, thus causing or worsening droughts


[22-Jun-19 11:10 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
Hong Kong's recent riot is more severe than the Fishball Revolution...oh dear

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[22-Jun-19 12:03 PM] Shush#9067
They arent riots


[22-Jun-19 12:06 PM] Shush#9067
You need to be careful about that. Carrie Lam has called them riots, but that serves a political purpose. The PRC would like the world to turn a blind eye and or see the protests as riots.


[22-Jun-19 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
Riots isn't inherently bad though


[22-Jun-19 12:47 PM] ononim#8141

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[22-Jun-19 12:47 PM] ononim#8141
ANyway, time to shitpost with meme idealogy


[22-Jun-19 01:21 PM] Shush#9067
Only thing is, the label of riot carries a 10yr prison sentence in HK


[22-Jun-19 01:23 PM] Shush#9067
Its a mischaracterisation of the protests in HK which have been entirely peaceful and rather calm. It's been the police that have been the primary instigators of violence, especially in shooting more CS cannisters in one single day of protest than during the entire run of the umbrella movement. Which I might add lasted 77 days.


[22-Jun-19 01:24 PM] Shush#9067
The leaders of which have been in and out of prison and their rights been violated.


[22-Jun-19 01:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1142255662577139712

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NYT reports that Trump’s decision against attacking Iran was based on advice from Tucker Carlson. In the absence of an organized anti-war movement, a decidedly right-wing cable TV host almost singlehandedly prevented a catastrophic war, at least for now. https://t.co/GK4...
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[22-Jun-19 02:01 PM] Shush#9067
Thats pretty decent news


[22-Jun-19 02:02 PM] Shush#9067
Tucker earned himself some GBP


[22-Jun-19 02:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still kinda horrifying tbh


[22-Jun-19 02:05 PM] Shush#9067
That is what the looming spectre of war is.


[22-Jun-19 02:05 PM] Shush#9067
So far though, Trump has shown, to be, for whatever reason. Rather anti war.


[22-Jun-19 02:06 PM] Shush#9067
And seems to be aiming for a cooling down on some sides


[22-Jun-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6f244646d3624ad89013d88c539aeabb

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Militia threat shuts down Oregon Statehouse amid walkout
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — The Oregon Capitol will be closed Saturday due to a "possible militia threat" from right-wing protesters as a walkout by Republican lawmakers over landmark climate change...
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[22-Jun-19 03:25 PM] byte[]#2610
more like right wing terrorists at this point


[22-Jun-19 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't want to live in the reality where the only thing stopping WW3 is _Tucker_ Fucking _Carlsosn_


[22-Jun-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is terrifying that the only thing keeping us from war is a fox news host...


[22-Jun-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then, eventually Trump is going to get bored of him and just do his own thing while ignoring everyone...


[22-Jun-19 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-police-altercation-tory-leadership-debate-hustings-latest-a8970116.html

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Boris Johnson minutes from facing public at hustings amid storm ov...
Follow all the latest developments
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[22-Jun-19 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Man expected to be Britain's next leader dismisses questions about incident during which neighbours heard his partner shouting 'get off me' and 'get out of my flat'`


[22-Jun-19 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably going to boost his chances tbh


[22-Jun-19 05:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Calling the police and collecting evidence of a domestic is a lefty attempt to stop brexit.


[22-Jun-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/u-s-cities-brace-for-immigration-raids-say-they-will-not-participate-idUSKCN1TM2F1

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U.S. cities brace for immigration raids, say they will not participate
U.S. cities expecting to be hit by a wave of immigration raids intended to depor...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190622&t=2&i=1400350534&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5L005


[22-Jun-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f01492c3dbd14856bce41d776248921f

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Iranian hackers wage cyber campaign amid tensions with US
WASHINGTON (AP) — Iran has increased its offensive cyberattacks against the U.S. government and critical infrastructure as tensions have grown between the two nations, cybersecurity firms...
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[22-Jun-19 05:25 PM] Shush#9067
American intervention would be nothing new, its happened under every recent president


[22-Jun-19 05:26 PM] Shush#9067
Comparatively Trump has been rather peaceful when looking at both Bush and Obama


[22-Jun-19 05:30 PM] Shush#9067
He has shown to be relatively anti-interventionist choosing to instead use soft power rather than hard power to further US goals abroad


[22-Jun-19 05:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Just saw this in another Discord I lurk in. https://globalnews.ca/news/5413521/elections-canada-influencer-campaign/

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Elections Canada already paid social media ‘influencers’ befor...
That comes on the heels of a report by the Canadian Press Thursday afternoon that the independent agency is scrapping the plan.
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[22-Jun-19 05:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Canadian tax dollars well spent mhmm 💸


[22-Jun-19 05:40 PM] Shush#9067
50k paid for each of them


[22-Jun-19 05:40 PM] Shush#9067
on avg


[22-Jun-19 05:41 PM] Shush#9067
Sure thats almost nothing in the grand scheme of things. But god damn, lucrative business being a influencer in CA.


[22-Jun-19 05:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's really not any different from the political machine that's already existed, the only difference is the labels and platform


[22-Jun-19 05:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and as a result the process is way more transparent than it used to be


[22-Jun-19 05:44 PM] Shush#9067
Its a pretty decent loss of face for the Canadian govt


[22-Jun-19 05:44 PM] Shush#9067
Its not a particularly large sum. But it stings.


[22-Jun-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b3001dc1cf6a4da59ab55ca759664068

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Trump: Military action against Iran still 'on the table'
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Saturday he's still considering military action against Iran after it downed an unmanned U.S. military aircraft, saying the use of force is "always on...
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[22-Jun-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his face looks like horrifying melted clay to me


[22-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
You know


[22-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is one of those people who definitely looked good when he was young


[22-Jun-19 07:30 PM] Mikey#7286
And then


[22-Jun-19 07:31 PM] Mikey#7286
He became ugly and lost his hair when he reached his 60s


[22-Jun-19 07:36 PM] Shush#9067
Police and protestors have been clashing in Germany at the current climate summit there.


[22-Jun-19 07:37 PM] Shush#9067
Multiple police officers have been wounded when protestors broke their way through a police line.


[22-Jun-19 07:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Good, fuck the police and lignite coal.


[22-Jun-19 07:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nukes fur Deutschland


[22-Jun-19 07:40 PM] Shush#9067
They havent dont anything wrong, they are just doing their work my dude.


[22-Jun-19 07:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lol, they're protecting a shit-coal mine. They're fucking mercs.


[22-Jun-19 07:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
No one who doesn't already have millions is going to lose anything.


[22-Jun-19 07:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Could have stepped aside and let them occupy it.


[22-Jun-19 07:41 PM] Shush#9067
I mean, Germany wouldnt have to burn coal if it wasnt for people shutting down their reactors because of ungrounded fearmongering.


[22-Jun-19 07:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
So much for Germany operating on shitty coal


[22-Jun-19 07:42 PM] Shush#9067
Order must be maintained, you cannot simply give control to the angry mobs.


[22-Jun-19 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Order a shit when the order is itself a death drive.


[22-Jun-19 07:42 PM] Shush#9067
Besides as I said, they are just doing their jobs, they dont deserve violence nor harm because they do what is expected of them.


[22-Jun-19 07:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fill in the mine with dead cops until Germany quits coal immediately. 👌


[22-Jun-19 07:43 PM] Shush#9067
Germany is one of the nations in Europe with the largest push for renewables, and is hard at work on cleaning up their act. But that is fairly difficult when all that is socially acceptable is intermitted power sources.


[22-Jun-19 07:44 PM] Shush#9067
They would have had an easier time getting off lignite if their nuclear powerplants wouldnt have been force closed because of ill informed mobs.


[22-Jun-19 07:47 PM] ononim#8141
They choose their job tho


[22-Jun-19 07:47 PM] ononim#8141
Also time to chime in and say that yeah, anti-nuclear fearmongery is ridicolous and harmful


[22-Jun-19 07:48 PM] ononim#8141
Was it yearly death caused by caol outweighting all harm caused by Chernobyl?


[22-Jun-19 07:48 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway, Nuclear-Green marriage when


[22-Jun-19 07:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nuclear power has gotten a bad name from news reporting it like they went off like a thermonuclear bomb. whenever there is a meltdown. I live near a granite mountain. I get more radiation from those mountains than the area near the Japanese nuclear plant.


[22-Jun-19 07:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The area near the Japanese nuclear powerplant was perfectly save but people that live there are scared to move back after the rapid evacuation.


[22-Jun-19 07:59 PM] Shush#9067
The thing about fukushima is though


[22-Jun-19 07:59 PM] Shush#9067
It got first hit by a extremely heavy earthquake and then I believe, two, Tsunami's


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Shush#9067
And yes, police officers choose their jobs, they however, dont choose to be riot police. Beside the police is your friend.


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lol, no


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Shush#9067
Being a police officer is a respectable job in Germany, and in most of Europe.


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
The police are the politicians friends


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not mine


[22-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Shush#9067
But you are also a supporter of violence, so that would make sense for you to not like the police.


[22-Jun-19 08:01 PM] Shush#9067
Considering they stop you from oppressing others, by force.


[22-Jun-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lol, that's some hella projection.


[22-Jun-19 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Don't you know we already live in rule by violence?


[22-Jun-19 08:01 PM] Shush#9067
Didn't you just openly admit to wanting the police dead.


[22-Jun-19 08:01 PM] Shush#9067
If that isn't supporting violence, what is.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or is the image of respectability all you need to forget that the cops are the only ones keeping all of us from having ownership of our own labor.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] Shush#9067
Your reality starkly contrasts my own it seems.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or the landlords to hold all the houses.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] Shush#9067
We do have ownership of our own labour, we are not slaves.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] Shush#9067
You can own a house.


[22-Jun-19 08:02 PM] Shush#9067
You can own the land on which the house stands.


[22-Jun-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
No we don't. We sign that away to someone who doesn't need us the way we need them. We are forced to partake in an unequal exchange on threat of starvation.


[22-Jun-19 08:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
That goes when the gov wants it.


[22-Jun-19 08:03 PM] Shush#9067
Not really, you can also offer your work for free to anyone and live off of donations.


[22-Jun-19 08:03 PM] Shush#9067
Or set up your own company


[22-Jun-19 08:03 PM] Shush#9067
I dont subscribe to the marxist idea that we are slaves to our employers.


[22-Jun-19 08:04 PM] Shush#9067
Infact, that is the very idea that turned me away from marxism


[22-Jun-19 08:05 PM] Shush#9067
We have protections from the government because we have rule of law. Where the government can, and often does lose in a court of law against its citizenry.


[22-Jun-19 08:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
The government can also change the laws because they're not answerable to us. They only seek the idea of a mandate. They don't need to keep promises, Carter proved as much. You don't even have to save anything. And per the Powell Memo you can get away to eroding government protections to make profit for the companies and stagnate or slash wages at home, all the while moving production oversees because, spoiler: the capital to make your own buisiness to bring that all back is far out of reach of the average person, even most middle class people. The CEO of Wizards of the Coast outwardly says as such and acknowledges that, as well that at the end of the day any and all financial crimes are done because profit is more important than ethical practice and those minor officers doing it come out with the feeling their job is more important than a prison sentence because they will be assuredly fired if they don't cook the books.


[22-Jun-19 08:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
And we have no organizations and capital to actually fight and we are expected to take it up the ass even as the rich billionaires literally kill our future.


[22-Jun-19 08:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
There is no ethical or moral reason to defend them. Or any of the other criminals. They go on about justice but go about committing their own crimes or abuses because power has no incentive of going after them.


[22-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Shush#9067
The representatives are most certainly answerable to the people. Every four or five years for most nations, or sometimes fewer. And while it's not a flawless system, its the one that has worked for most of the west. Sure Switzerland has a more optimal albeit costly form of democracy which many western nations can and indeed should learn from. 

And while yes sometimes companies get their hands somewhat too deep into legislative affairs there can be work done to minimize their efforts. But a state should also look out not only for its citizenry, and defence but also for the capital of the state and the citizenry or it's investments. 
Most people can start their own business through either loans, or without loans. They will generally not provide immediate returns on investment, but companies rarely do.

And yes, while definitely a bad practise on the side of cooperation's, unethical business is nothing new, and I doubt it would go away with any system. It is human nature to enrich oneself at the cost of others.
Pretending all large cooperation's are criminal is a bit of a stretch and not based in reality.


[22-Jun-19 08:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[22-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Shush#9067
Hypercapitalism as practised in the US is clearly a poor way forward, that is why people should look at a more regulated market. again this has been done to much success in much of central, western and northern Europe. The state should protect its citizenry from abuse by larger entities, and in most situations it succeeds in doing so.


[22-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Shush#9067
And what is so funny, I doubt you took time to read what I typed out before saying that.


[22-Jun-19 08:24 PM] Shush#9067
bbl


[22-Jun-19 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Your faith in the state is misplaced. Since it's assumed the corporate-government interest is so lax that it'll back off as soon as the government moves in. But you're failing to realize that in all those regions the regulations against private companies has been laxened in the past few decades. In the US the New Deal Coalition that saw the boom of our welfare state and what we look back on as a golden era was eroded over the next few decades. As well in Europe. As long as companies own the legal right to their property they own disproportionate power to influence politics by threat of withdrawing from the country and shutting down the country to evade regulations and financial restrictions for operating there; as is the case in particular for Scandinavia where the major companies that are the tax base for their social welfare system being able to threaten to close down and move if they feel they have a chance to claim their profits.

The end conclusion is that we can not rely on a government-buisiness partnership because if things do not go their way the companies will leave. And if things are not friendly for them they will not come in, as is the case of Ireland bending over backwards for Apple and other American companies, and the economy is lost entirely. The only viable long term solution to answering for the inequalities by capitalism and the social and personal alienation it creates is for worker's ownership of the companies, and not private ownership in the hands of one or ten hyper wealthy individuals.


[22-Jun-19 08:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
And if takes a few cops too loyal to the law to refuse to have broken noses and collar bones to shift what capitalism has brought by its own violence, then so be it.


[22-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or giv the UN power and also somehow get it to regulate businesses


[22-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
In theory it's supposed to at *least* be regulating trade to remove tariffs, but that's a huge sham.


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the problem is America


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it refuses to bow to any UN demands


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
ever


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and being the one that hosts the UN, it can't really be said no to


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Giving an organization that none of us vote for that much power certainly will do no harm. Just look at Congo!


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's even a low on the books to invade the Hague if a US soldier gets charged with war crimes


[22-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's utter nonsense


[22-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, sovereignty must be handed over


[22-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
as long as everything is fragmented, one country can just make itself a haven for being shitty to workers


[22-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and countries can swing around tariffs that only hurt he little guys


[22-Jun-19 08:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Changing who handles the laws doesn't change the underlying structural issue.


[22-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily. The thing is it becomes a little harder to influence when everyone's involved


[22-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
One country can leak things, which creates more transparency


[22-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The main problem right now is so much shit is shadily done with a few negotiators who only care about their own country's interests


[22-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Treaties get signed that promise things in secret


[22-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term


[22-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
we need to make it so two countries *aren't allowed* to make a treaty without the UN


[22-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And for the UN procedure to be exceedingly public.


[22-Jun-19 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're still concentrating all the power to be swayed in a single hand. And as long as private capital exists then there's a danger that the Platonic decay from democracy to oligarchy and tyranny won't happen, since the hyper wealthy with all the resources could still make threats to change it all.


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of it is to make any given interest less likely to sway the hands involved.


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to get everyone in the cookie jar.


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Concentration of that economic power in the hands of the people who produce that value through their labor would be the best distribution of the economic power in the system that no one can leverage more than the other and can't hijack it.


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, ideally people directly elect UN representatives


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a pipe dream to giv everything to workers


[22-Jun-19 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
You don't put everyone in the cookie jar as long as billionaires exist.


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You do because of transparency


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
The concentration of institutional power only destabilizes democracy.


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
It needs to be distributed broadly.


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it makes it far more difficult for them to operate in secret if a lot are watching


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and secrecy is half of why they are able to do this


[22-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
leak where someone's assets are and laws actually change


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apple and such are having trouble now because some of the tax havens are no longer viable.


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or else you'll be staring down a new generation of imperialism based on the power of already economically wealthy and smaller states that can with hold the capital for development from other regions to get what they want, and it can be OK because they can own the In.


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also no one would be watching the UN.


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
So who watches the watches if everyone can't be a part of it


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
And if people who can make significant campaign donations exist.


[22-Jun-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
And all the sins of Western democracy.


[22-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything has sins, everything is corrupt, but a little bit of transparency goes a long way.


[22-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remove the ability to hide.


[22-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having everything in individual per-country negotiations makes hiding much easier


[22-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your first goal should be making sure nobody can hide.


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because otherwise no structure you make matters.


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
All are exploitable.


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
If everything goes out in the open, suddenly Democracy can actually do its job.


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It may be shit at that job


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it can do it


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it has been shown it can.


[22-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of getting everyone together is making sure that it's very hard to hide.


[22-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
To pit competing interests against each other as well, making them come into conflict and less able to hide.


[22-Jun-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then only if the hierarchial structure that exists today is melted down by nation to a flatter and broader structure. Otherwise you're suggesting a global restructuring where none of us can have any significant input. You're forgetting this. Annexing everything to the UN wouldn't possibly be on the consensus or knowledge of anyone not in the 1% because they already own all that power. And any steps to global government from this point will only keep them in power and they will only keep that power.


[22-Jun-19 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Global government will just be globalized trash Neoliberalism. Or garbage old liberalism


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
You need to entirely reimagine political economy then just make empty appeals to "transparency".


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't do that tho


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not even close to feasible to just melt everything and start over


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's what they said in the 1700's


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
any attempt to do so gets usurped by those in power


[22-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And things got usurped


[22-Jun-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Really? I don't see King Louis or old feudal relationships as centered on the church today as it was then.


[22-Jun-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not


[22-Jun-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, we're not even have meme tier battles between churches in America.


[22-Jun-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's the effect of liberalism.


[22-Jun-19 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
It re-wrote the individual relationships. Actually it deleted them.


[22-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
the wealthy usurpers just changed which institutions hav power


[22-Jun-19 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not it's time to re-write the interpersonal relationships in a humane enlightened way.


[22-Jun-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also watch Roy Moore win in Alabama off of religious nuts that don't think anything should change.


[22-Jun-19 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
>He says this will not considering the effects of the changed relationships of the modern day and the ways in which people contact with each other and institutions have affected this in the first place, private and public.


[22-Jun-19 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ouch, that's a 0 Geneological Statement out of 10 there fam


[22-Jun-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump says he's a man of common sense on tv


[22-Jun-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[22-Jun-19 10:04 PM] Mikey#7286
As if


[22-Jun-19 10:23 PM] Lilly#4737
i think guns and free speech would definitely save that girl


[22-Jun-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jun-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[22-Jun-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
all future presidents will be required to be genetically engineered into trump


[22-Jun-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
there must always be a trump king


[22-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Shush#9067
Trumptopia is truly upon us


[22-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Shush#9067
👌🏻


[22-Jun-19 11:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/us-government-blocks-league-in-syria-and-iran

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[22-Jun-19 11:11 PM] Mikey#7286
Inb4 Trump attempts to make himself president for life


[22-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
gamers rise up


[22-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Mikey#7286
"he's president for life, that's great, I think we should try that someday"


[22-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We don't need a president anymore


[22-Jun-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Executive Council please


[22-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
What, so Pelosi and Bernie can shitpost while three Trumps run the country?


[22-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Won't do shit.


[22-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, look at councils on parts of the executive


[22-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
look at the FCC


[22-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whichever party is in power just puts in place their three shills and runs it directly


[22-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
I think he means that the council members are each directly voted in, not appointed


[22-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of a political party putting in who it wants


[22-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
a political party runs ads for who it wants


[22-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
totes gonna work


[22-Jun-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://www.npr.org/2019/06/22/734919303/supreme-court-overturns-precedent-in-property-rights-case-a-sign-of-things-to-co

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For the second time in weeks, the court's five conservatives teamed up to overturn decades of precedent, to the consternation of the court's four liberals.
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[22-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh joy


[22-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all just power moves


[22-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
so now people can easily bypass state law to say that the environment doesn't really need protection.


[22-Jun-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause what are states' rights?


[22-Jun-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah like @Crow said each region only votes for their council member


[22-Jun-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if you're in the Midwest you have no voice to stop what the West wants


[22-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah so then the South institutes pseudo slavery


[22-Jun-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
k


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then the other four regions slap their shit


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Something like that would need like, a majority vote


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't fukking work that way


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't hav things be per-region one moment and not the next


[22-Jun-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't hav your cake and eat it too


[22-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
you either giv regions regional control over lots of shit


[22-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
or you *don't*


[22-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You really don't fukking get it on this stuff


[22-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem was never that the west chose what the midwest got or vice versa


[22-Jun-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the South wants completely different things from the rest of the country


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
the South wants discrimination, no separation of church and state, no investment in welfare or transportation


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Greeley was right.


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it wants to be its own single country of bigotry


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it fought a war to become one


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it lost, but the founding fathers screwed up massively


[22-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
they gave land a vote


[23-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The west, midwest, and northeast are practically SCREAMING right now for good transportation infrastructure btw


[23-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the South hates the very concept


[23-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm never thought about it like this


[23-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you do if you make a regional council is constantly outvote the South on everything


[23-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
unless you giv them devolved authority


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
in which case they just shit up their region with all sorts of bigotry and such


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you may say "no, we'll make sure they can't specifically do bigotry"


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you must understand


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
bigotry doesn't just mean a law that blakks go into a separate school


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Outvoting the south on everything is the goal


[23-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means choosing judges for lifetime appointments who don't believe the 14th amendment covers gender


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is to lessen the impact of rural votes


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
How are you going to stop them on that one?


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No lifetime appointments


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, then you just need to rip apart the Electoral College


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20 years


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the electoral college that givs the South extra power in the presidency


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My shitposty idea is


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If rural areas let land vote


[23-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
you also would need to change the Senate


[23-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit why shouldn't coastal areas let the ocean vote?


[23-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it not able to propose legislation


[23-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
States over a certain pop should have more than two senators


[23-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, just nerf the senate


[23-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make its only job be to confirm legislation


[23-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The House should write legislation, nominate people for positions, and hold trials


[23-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate should only confirm.


[23-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now The Senate wears the pants


[23-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg's SCOTUS plan is kinda dumb relatedly


[23-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically only 10 appointable judges


[23-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The other 5 will be picked by those judges and no one else will interfere


[23-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see why 10 and 5


[23-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
just do 6 and 3


[23-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea being that those five will be the ones really deciding everything


[23-Jun-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk


[23-Jun-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways the lesson is that if you make a country based on equal representation by unit


[23-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
how you divide up the units matters


[23-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can easily hav a shithole with like no people but split into lots of units constantly control ultimate policy


[23-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO some states need to be combined.


[23-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Puerto Rico needs to become a state


[23-Jun-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're pretty close to Puerto Rico being a state, but Republicans are completely ignoring any talk of it.


[23-Jun-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because if it became a state, they'd easily lose the Senate soon after.


[23-Jun-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South and its allies would finally be outnumbered in Senators.


[23-Jun-19 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's socialism somehow


[23-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism to giv people representation


[23-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh man, imagine if DC became a state too


[23-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
On another note https://www.npr.org/2019/06/22/733408450/forced-to-demolish-their-own-homes-syrian-refugees-in-lebanon-seek-new-shelter

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Lebanon requires refugees to live in shelters made of canvas or wood. A new military decree directs them to demolish concrete walls over 3 feet high by July 1. Many don't know where they'll live next.
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[23-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing like telling people what their makeshift homes can be made of


[23-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The left just calls anything they dislike racism!"- people who call anything they dislike socialism or SJW


[23-Jun-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 52-state strategy might work.


[23-Jun-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But first it needs Republicans to somehow be weak in the Senate


[23-Jun-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
might happen if they lose it in 2020


[23-Jun-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's several seats they're likely to lose


[23-Jun-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Colorado for sure


[23-Jun-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the Jones Act is horrid


[23-Jun-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's unconscionable


[23-Jun-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s bad when i can't tell if an article is the onion from title alone...


[23-Jun-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it's the tomato

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[23-Jun-19 12:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Nebbie "rip apart the Electoral College"


[23-Jun-19 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
b-but tyranny of the majority!


[23-Jun-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[23-Jun-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Aspics are a human rights violation too


[23-Jun-19 12:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"BuT ThATS tyRaNnY By MaJoRty!111!!"


[23-Jun-19 12:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
-someone who doesn't know what tyranny by majority is


[23-Jun-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[23-Jun-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're serving uncooked frozen food to the immigrants


[23-Jun-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
there could literally be frozen aspics included in that


[23-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh god


[23-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tyranny by the majority is a meme


[23-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Mikey#7286
the electoral college is meant to vote for who their area voted for but like electorates vote for who they want against the people


[23-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I've actuly seen people non ironcly saying that's what disbanding the EC would do


[23-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-will-bidens-latest-comments-affect-his-standing-in-the-democratic-primary/

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Joe Biden’s popularity with black voters is a huge factor in the 2020 Democratic primary. In most state and national polls that show results by race, Biden has …
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[23-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, most likely Biden could say the N word on live TV and it would barely dent his polling


[23-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of blakk voters even will simply not care because he's clearly not an outright segregationist akin to Trump and they'd rather hav somebody that racists won't be able to stop than somebody who isn't racist.


[23-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, literally, a lot of blakk voters believe that trying to elect someone who's blakk or wants equality is a bad idea because Republicans would just be able to win the general election.


[23-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservatives are that good at pushing racism.


[23-Jun-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, as I've said before


[23-Jun-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Biden is sufficiently horrible enuff to be the best choice for Democrats


[23-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can reach across the aisle to play ball with people who believe gays and blakks should be lynched


[23-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
that makes him electable.


[23-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Progress, but with a way to still practice bigotry en masse™.


[23-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[23-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A win is a win?


[23-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He isn't massively unlikeable like Clinton.


[23-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Uncle Joe persona will go far


[23-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A win is not a win.


[23-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want to win, Liberals want progress.


[23-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will win by promising to prevent progress.


[23-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly https://www.npr.org/2019/06/21/734761618/missouri-refuses-to-renew-license-for-states-last-abortion-provider

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Missouri Refuses To Renew License For State's Last Abortion Provider
The St. Louis facility will continue to provide abortions for now, however, because of a judge's order.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/06/21/ap_19155676131769_wide-db9b142963c18a2b58a778f637d2209ee62c1019.jpg?s=1400


[23-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has Biden said anything on this stuff?


[23-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't expect him to.


[23-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/22/biden-roe-v-wade-2020-1376712

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Biden calls for enshrining Roe v. Wade in federal law
Biden spoke at a Planned Parenthood forum two weeks after reversing his opposition to federal funding for most abortions.
https://static.politico.com/b5/75/1c05fb554de7bccf74e49c916e78/19622-joe-biden-gty-773.jpg


[23-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like nothing but excuses to me


[23-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federal law isn't gonna stop the states.


[23-Jun-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he supported overturning Roe v Wade *hard* 20 years ago


[23-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
again, if Biden is nominated


[23-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
say hello to 4 more years of Trump


[23-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
ahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha


[23-Jun-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People can change.


[23-Jun-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also he's simply not as unlikeable as Clinton.


[23-Jun-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_as_


[23-Jun-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ass


[23-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Mikey @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 @Itsthinking Not realy


[23-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
trumps own unpopulatry would be a uinveing factor


[23-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
so really, Biden or Bernie would be good


[23-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To this day I don't get why Sanders wasn't picked as a VP


[23-Jun-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because he was very much not in line with the traditional Democratic party establishment


[23-Jun-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and no one really wants to play with him


[23-Jun-19 04:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Breaking news!: President picks a self proclaimed socialist as Vice President. Communist are taking over the government!


[23-Jun-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Kinda the same thing that's happening with Occasio-Cortez


[23-Jun-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Somehow, an intelligent, ethical person wound up getting elected and it's very scary


[23-Jun-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so they took her rough draft, shoved it through as if it were finished, and then laughed at her and called her stupid for proposing such an obviously flawed and unfinished plan


[23-Jun-19 02:32 PM] Shush#9067
That controversy about that black pokemon girl is still raging on


[23-Jun-19 02:32 PM] Shush#9067
Holy fuck do people really have nothing better to do than crusade on the behalf of a fictional black girl


[23-Jun-19 02:34 PM] Shush#9067
And AOC is too green and not all that great. Shes basically a left wing Trump


[23-Jun-19 02:35 PM] Shush#9067
big loud mouth and not very well tuned in.


[23-Jun-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it about the chimp image someone drew?


[23-Jun-19 02:52 PM] Shush#9067
Thought that was a pretty good piss take


[23-Jun-19 02:53 PM] Shush#9067
And the reactions to it are exactly as you would expect on twitter, thus a goldmine.


[23-Jun-19 02:54 PM] Shush#9067
For people that haven't seen it. https://twitter.com/Evulart/status/1141854858280079360

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#Nessa #pokemon
I know I know, color isnt right. Will retouch later.
NSFW version coming later.
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[23-Jun-19 02:56 PM] Shush#9067
Oh, no the main outrage isnt about the chimp pic tho


[23-Jun-19 02:57 PM] Shush#9067
The main/original outrage was about claims of 'Whitewashing' because people drew the character more light skinned than on the original character ref for multiple reasons I would assume.


[23-Jun-19 02:57 PM] Shush#9067
Like lighting and stylistic choices.


[23-Jun-19 02:58 PM] Shush#9067
And then someone made the chimp pic for teh lulz


[23-Jun-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so people arguing over lighting, and then the trolls start intentionally drawing her white to piss of the original complainer because they edited and posted a darker version of the artist's work without his permission?


[23-Jun-19 02:59 PM] Shush#9067
Kinda.


[23-Jun-19 02:59 PM] Shush#9067
And now a bunch of Asian artists are exclusively drawing the character white


[23-Jun-19 03:00 PM] Shush#9067
Because they are tired of Americans/anglopshere pushing their sensibilities on them.


[23-Jun-19 03:00 PM] Shush#9067
And as a tongue in cheek way of critiquing them


[23-Jun-19 03:01 PM] Shush#9067
But yeah, some ppl got upset over a stylistic choice by one artist and then it snowballed into this whole shitshow that has been going on for weeks.


[23-Jun-19 03:03 PM] Shush#9067
And of course claims of racism are being thrown at anyone not on the ''this is whitewashing'' side.


[23-Jun-19 03:03 PM] Shush#9067
Because anglo politics are all about that in the current era it seems


[23-Jun-19 03:16 PM] ononim#8141
Well too bad what even whenever the fuck else is happening is still racist as fuck to respond to drama concerning dark skinned charcter's skin with straight up "heee hee she a chimp I am so random XDDD"


[23-Jun-19 03:17 PM] ononim#8141
Not helping the fact what artist is openly proud what his art was featured in the video of a nazi scum E;R


[23-Jun-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f5871d3a11444fb0a1e11fa2b8d0274d

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Bolton warns Iran not to mistake US 'prudence' for weakness
JERUSALEM (AP) — U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton said Sunday that Iran should not "mistake U.S. prudence and discretion for weakness," after the U.S. abruptly called off military...
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[23-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Shush#9067
ER?


[23-Jun-19 03:41 PM] Shush#9067
Who is er


[23-Jun-19 03:42 PM] Shush#9067
Its satire imho so im not too perturbed by it, satire is supposed to be offensive


[23-Jun-19 03:44 PM] Shush#9067
I like how reality has become a mirror of godwins law when most of the west has been influenced by the web


[23-Jun-19 03:56 PM] ononim#8141
My man, you're not fooling anyone by only ever posting in politics channel with "rune" name with two ᛋ, that's the first, and second, satire should be funny and not just "hahaha let's spam the n-word and draw a racial caricature XDDDD"


[23-Jun-19 03:58 PM] Shush#9067
you realise it transcribes to Shush, right. My FA username.


[23-Jun-19 03:59 PM] Shush#9067
The sig rune literally transcribes to a S


[23-Jun-19 03:59 PM] Shush#9067
Dont even pull that, germanic runes are Nazistic spiel.


[23-Jun-19 04:00 PM] Shush#9067
What is funny is subjective, what you think is unfunny might be funny to another person.


[23-Jun-19 04:01 PM] Shush#9067
And they are called Futhark.


[23-Jun-19 04:02 PM] Shush#9067
They are a script that has been used for over 1500 years by Germanic people groups especially in Northern and Western Europe. Which happens to be where I hail from. And they are to this day used by Neo-Pagans.


[23-Jun-19 04:02 PM] ononim#8141
Yes and?


[23-Jun-19 04:03 PM] ononim#8141
Solar symbols have been used for thousnad of years guess just going to get a swastika tattoed on my forehead and when people call me out on what say what it's them who are offensive for being offended at clearly a buddhists symbol


[23-Jun-19 04:03 PM] Shush#9067
I am not letting you co-opt a alphabet used for over a millennium


[23-Jun-19 04:03 PM] Shush#9067
If you would be a bhuddist I wouldnt be surprised.


[23-Jun-19 04:04 PM] Shush#9067
And guess what, the swastika is liberally used and celebrated in areas where it holds religious significance


[23-Jun-19 04:04 PM] Shush#9067
Dont judge non-anglo culture with your anglo standards.


[23-Jun-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
m8


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
And like, if you just hanged around in the server, that would be just a coincedence but when the only thing you do is posting in political channel and saying how a caricature what is "lelelele edgy channer racism to trigger the libs" at best


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
It's pretty transparent


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
>your anglo standards.


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] Shush#9067
Is that really the only thing I said.


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
Наху пошёл


[23-Jun-19 04:05 PM] Shush#9067
Have I not also debated the merits of democracy


[23-Jun-19 04:06 PM] Shush#9067
Or the merits of a regulated semi-free market.


[23-Jun-19 04:06 PM] Shush#9067
Don't *argumentum ad Nazium* me


[23-Jun-19 04:07 PM] ononim#8141
well you see, I didn't "argumentum ad Nazium me" you when you just were saying something political about markets


[23-Jun-19 04:08 PM] Shush#9067
So me using an alphabet you couple to a 12 year span in history despite its over 1500 year history immediately debases my argument?


[23-Jun-19 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48734572

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Army chief shot dead in Ethiopia attacks
The chief of staff is shot dead by his own bodyguard in what is described as a regional coup bid.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07dy0gq.jpg


[23-Jun-19 04:09 PM] Shush#9067
Oh boy, that doesn't bode well for Ethiopia


[23-Jun-19 04:09 PM] ononim#8141
No it shows your argumentation for other things and your behaivouur in a new light


[23-Jun-19 04:09 PM] ononim#8141
and let me quote myself


[23-Jun-19 04:09 PM] ononim#8141
>And like, **if you just hanged around in the server, that would be just a coincedence but when the only thing you do is posting in political channel**and saying how a caricature what is "lelelele edgy channer racism to trigger the libs" at best


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] Shush#9067
The chimp pic clearly is satire, whether it's funny is another question.


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing has bode well for Ethiopia since the first time anyone said the word "Ethiopia"


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway back to news, huh horn of africa is sure a rough place right now


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
First Siuth SUdan, now Ethiopia


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] Shush#9067
Ethiopia has been having issues holding the unitary state together.


[23-Jun-19 04:10 PM] ononim#8141
Guess Djibouti or Eritreia are next


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] Shush#9067
Theres massive Muslim and Christian populations there. they dont go together very well.


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, UK's next PM is caught in a near-domestic abuse scandal


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
I dunno @Teaspoon , first Italo-Ethiopian war boded pretty well for them


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
I thought Boris being new PM was a joke at first


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] Shush#9067
I think both Djibouti and Eritrea are mostly safe for the time being.


[23-Jun-19 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
don't Tories have anyone better for this?


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Shush#9067
Djibouti will be supported by the Chinese, due to their recent debt trapping of them.


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jokes are reality, onon


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
See: Washington


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Shush#9067
So they will be able to hold their state together.


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
Do they see Trump, Bolsonaro, Dutere and think they should jump on bandwagon or something


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every contender is a tosser and they've realized that the worse they are the better their chances become


[23-Jun-19 04:12 PM] Shush#9067
And Eritrea has been an authoritarian state with massive disappearances, they seem stable through fear and oppression.


[23-Jun-19 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately Boris had a massive head start


[23-Jun-19 04:13 PM] Shush#9067
I wonder why Chinese Neo-Colonialism isnt as much of a news item as it ought to be


[23-Jun-19 04:15 PM] Shush#9067
Might be because a lot of news agencies are smelling that sweet China market and don't want to upset the CCP


[23-Jun-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
you don't see pictures of ethnic han chinese  beating down random africans for not working in the mines hard enough


[23-Jun-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They outsource that to the locals


[23-Jun-19 04:15 PM] Shush#9067
No, but you see them slowly usurping their economies and debt trapping them.


[23-Jun-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Much like the west already did and does


[23-Jun-19 04:16 PM] Shush#9067
Western investments are heavily scrutinized by African powers, but many of the nations on the continent are happy to deal with the Chinese, who promptly debt trap them


[23-Jun-19 04:16 PM] Shush#9067
We have seen the Malay govt narrowly escape it


[23-Jun-19 04:16 PM] Shush#9067
But Both Djibouti and Sri Lanka have fallen to the debt trap.


[23-Jun-19 04:17 PM] Shush#9067
With Sri Lanka having to surrender its main port of trade to the Chinese on a 99 year lease, and Djibouti being forced to accept concessions to the PLA


[23-Jun-19 04:17 PM] Shush#9067
Ethiopia has been having a bit of a dance with the Bank of China


[23-Jun-19 04:18 PM] Shush#9067
But the only major nation in Africa that prides itself on never being colonialised might soon find itself debt trapped to China


[23-Jun-19 04:21 PM] Shush#9067
There have been a few ethnically motivated protest and racism against the Chinese is rampant within Ethiopia.


[23-Jun-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/70c173c8d213438e9fbef4d1f2bba07b

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Trump postpones nationwide immigration enforcement sweep
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Saturday delayed a nationwide immigration sweep to deport people living the United States illegally, including families, saying he would give lawmakers...
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[23-Jun-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>two weeks to work out solutions for the southern border.

The move came after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Trump on Friday asking him to call off the raids. But three administration officials said scrapping the operation was not just about politics. They said Immigration and Customs Enforcement leaders had expressed serious concerns that officers’ safety would be in jeopardy because too many details about the raids had been made public.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to speak about private discussions.

“At the request of Democrats, I have delayed the Illegal Immigration Removal Process (Deportation) for two weeks to see if the Democrats and Republicans can get together and work out a solution to the Asylum and Loophole problems at the Southern Border,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “If not, Deportations start!”


[23-Jun-19 04:31 PM] Shush#9067
Clearly something needs to be done about the migrant crisis. It seems to mirror the one in the EU from a few years ago, somewhat. But neither inaction nor grand scale deportations are going to be fixing that problem


[23-Jun-19 04:32 PM] Shush#9067
As with any problem, the solution is probably somewhere in the middle, with tightened border defence but also easier legal migration into the US


[23-Jun-19 04:33 PM] Shush#9067
As it currently stands the situation is just not stable and something has to give.


[23-Jun-19 04:37 PM] Shush#9067
Illegal immigration is definitely a problem, the goal ought to be to completely get rid of it in favour of converting that into mostly legal migration. But the push factors need to also be addressed into the countries the people are migrating from. Which is a bit of a headache.


[23-Jun-19 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-k3cVe3Wc

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Cracked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-k3cVe3Wc
Why Does Nobody Know About Trump's Vlog
SUBSCRIBE HERE: http://goo.gl/ITTCPW If you didn't think this Trump stuff could get any more bizarre, then behold his vlog. Buy Tickets to the Cracked Live P...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fy-k3cVe3Wc/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jun-19 04:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's Cracked, but it's not satire, just commentary on lesser known Trump clips


[23-Jun-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/LuluRoseMcNair/status/1142388059134033922

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Blonde Hermione (but, like, in Ravenclaw) (@LuluRoseMcNair)
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@mevin2cool @TheWizardofYASS @Samuel_Socrates @KeenTan3 @katiesimrell @Evulart
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[23-Jun-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
haha guys I was just pretending to be retarded


[23-Jun-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
wait karen no don't leave me


[23-Jun-19 05:53 PM] Shush#9067
Karen probably left you because she could get it on with the manager :V


[23-Jun-19 05:53 PM] Shush#9067
Lets be honest, Karen always wanted to speak to him anyway


[23-Jun-19 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
Now, that's a funny one


[23-Jun-19 06:35 PM] DevField#5162

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[23-Jun-19 06:35 PM] DevField#5162

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[23-Jun-19 06:35 PM] DevField#5162
Lel


[23-Jun-19 06:36 PM] DevField#5162
stuck in the middle with crow :nut:


[23-Jun-19 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-19 06:58 PM] Shush#9067
American school shootings are like breathing, you can try to stop it. But we all know it's just going to happen.


[23-Jun-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1819580358

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‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularl...
LAS VEGAS—In the hours following a violent rampage in Las Vegas in which a lone attacker killed more than 50 individuals and seriously injured 400 others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Monday that t...
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[23-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Shush#9067
I mean, its not the only nation where mass shootings regularly happen.


[23-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Shush#9067
It's just all the others have to deal with islamic terror cells.


[23-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That is... not true


[23-Jun-19 07:01 PM] Shush#9067
Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia and the few im forgetting


[23-Jun-19 07:01 PM] Shush#9067
They all have mass shootings


[23-Jun-19 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"all the others"


[23-Jun-19 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Way to name countries that are active war zones


[23-Jun-19 07:02 PM] Shush#9067
Theres no country other country that regularly deals with mass shootings that doesnt have terrorism troubles


[23-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Shush#9067
Pakistan is not an active warzone


[23-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kashmir residents would disagree


[23-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Shush#9067
Kashmir is a contested territory.


[23-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In which people shoot eachother


[23-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In a war-like fashion


[23-Jun-19 07:04 PM] Shush#9067
That doesn't make it a warzone however.


[23-Jun-19 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. _a warzone_


[23-Jun-19 07:04 PM] Shush#9067
A war zone would imply an actual war.


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Shush#9067
Currently, Pakistan is at peace.


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Shush#9067
Most of the others I mentioned are in a state of civil war however.


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
These countries are either war zones or have on going civil conflicts between religious groups and rights groups. US has teens that can't get laid or are being bullied at school they happen to have easy access to a gun. Not really comparable.


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
don't forget the adults shooting up their businesses because they're treated like shit


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Shush#9067
The major underlying cause in US mass shootings is what I assume to be mental health.


[23-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
and there's no other legal recourse


[23-Jun-19 07:06 PM] Shush#9067
Mental health is dealt with poorly by the US medical system.


[23-Jun-19 07:06 PM] Shush#9067
And a lot of it goes un-diagnosed and un-documented.


[23-Jun-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
it turns out that treating people like shit causes mental health issues

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[23-Jun-19 07:06 PM] Shush#9067
Who woulda thunk it


[23-Jun-19 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
brown guy shoots up a building = it's terrorism


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
white guy shoots up a building =  mental health

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[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if we stress out our citizens and thne give them all guns!


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Shush#9067
Its not colour, its motive.


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Let down by the system


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He just needed a friend, not the FBI


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a group of white guys with guns= a militia


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] ISamusI#5581
So if a white guy breaks some drywall, it’s anger, but if a black guy does, it’s murder?


[23-Jun-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cops should know to shoot to disarm, not kill!


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless he's brown/black, then you gotta empty two mags to make sure the threat is contained, cops can't risk their lives like that!


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] ISamusI#5581
I don’t see why they don’t just do incapacity shots instead of lethal.


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every shot is lethal


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Shush#9067
In most western nations shooting to incapacitate is the norm


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] ISamusI#5581
Like if he has a gun, suspected or other, shoot him somewhere not lethal and disarm him


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Shush#9067
Instead of shooting to kill.


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shoot someone's knee, you probably blow out an artery


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they don't get punished. there is no negative reprecussion right now if a cop shoots an unarmed citizen


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] Shush#9067
Every shot has the possibility to be lethal*


[23-Jun-19 07:08 PM] ISamusI#5581
The shoulder I hear is one of the least dangerous


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In Europe armed cops _will_ try to shoot out legs


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's not "less than lethal"


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
... no it isn't, shooting to incapacitate just leads to collateral damage


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's much harder to hit a limb than it is to hit the center of mass


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] ISamusI#5581
Yeah. Leg damage can be very hindering in the long term.


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at most the worst punishment i;ve seen is is a paid vacation and a possible relocating to take the heat off the cop


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Shush#9067
Shooting to incapacitate is much better than shooting centre mass


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] ISamusI#5581
At least with the shoulders you can move around *and* use one arm


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Shush#9067
Death can also be hindering in the long term


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ultimately if someone is an actual active threat, they get shot in the torso until they stop moving


[23-Jun-19 07:09 PM] Shush#9067
so yknow


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Shush#9067
Shooting limbs or torso might be a better option than centre mass


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The difference of course is what different cultures consider a threat


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
the quickest solution to police shootings would be to have malpractice insurance like doctors do


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Shush#9067
There also is a larger threat to police in the US rather than most of the EU


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532 (pinned)
In the US, talking back is a direct threat to the lives of every officer in a 300 yard radius


[23-Jun-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
because it's currently taxpayers who have to pay for the defense of the "bad apples", as it were


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] ISamusI#5581
Usually I think threats as someone who’s about to cause harm to others. Building damage alone isn’t that worth shooting someone over unless they’re going for structural points which may result in collapse


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] Shush#9067
In the US a firearm is much more likely to be in the picture than in the EU even in heavy gun owning EU nations


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] ISamusI#5581
Even then, go for tires


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] Shush#9067
You dont need to shoot out a tyre.


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course thne you get the trigger happy gun nuts who joined the police force specifically to shoot people


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, obviously just kill the suspect


[23-Jun-19 07:11 PM] Shush#9067
You can just cause a traffic jam


[23-Jun-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
no tires harmed


[23-Jun-19 07:12 PM] Shush#9067
No need to discharge a firearm when a suspect runs


[23-Jun-19 07:12 PM] Shush#9067
Firearms should only be used by police when there is a lethal threat


[23-Jun-19 07:12 PM] Shush#9067
Not when a suspect drives or runs off


[23-Jun-19 07:13 PM] Shush#9067
That is when other methods come into play


[23-Jun-19 07:13 PM] Shush#9067
In the US a lot of cops are also alone on patrol, whereas in most EU nations cops always come in pairs.


[23-Jun-19 07:13 PM] Shush#9067
Reducing overall risk because of backup being at the ready


[23-Jun-19 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if they fail to kill the person they were shootign they will actively try to sabotage any and all trials to make sure that eprson goes to jail sothe cop doesn;t get in trouble


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
the US has a lot of brown people and police departments are spread thin trying to crush them all under their boots


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] Shush#9067
Lol


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] Shush#9067
No


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
cars are less expensive than pig salary you know


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] Shush#9067
The police doesnt go out to go and shoot some black people


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] Shush#9067
Thats just not true


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the city


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
no, they shoot you if you're driving while black


[23-Jun-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in chicago is absolutely is true


[23-Jun-19 07:15 PM] Shush#9067
Byte C'mon thats also not true


[23-Jun-19 07:15 PM] Shush#9067
Cops just dont go out with a mission to shoot black & brown peeps


[23-Jun-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
there is a serious problem in this country with police and lethal shootings of non-white individuals


[23-Jun-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a shit ton of police officers jsut got baned from twitter for racially shit posting


[23-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Shush#9067
Yes there is a problem there, but needlessly provocative language like that doesnt help the matter


[23-Jun-19 07:16 PM] Shush#9067
Dialogue does more good that rhetoric


[23-Jun-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm tired of dialogue because I feel like I've been asked to compromise on "stop killing people for no reason"


[23-Jun-19 07:17 PM] Shush#9067
What are the underlying reasons more blacks get killed per capita than whites, is there reasons behind this


[23-Jun-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Like what do you want me to do, ask them to only kill them halfway next time


[23-Jun-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you try to start dialogue with a cop, they hold a gun to your head and order you to slam your face on the ground


[23-Jun-19 07:17 PM] Shush#9067
Dont attirbute to malice what can be explained as incompetence


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Shush#9067
you dont try to dialogyue with police when being stopped.


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Shush#9067
Dont be silly


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
ACAI


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48739256

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Turkey ruling party set to lose Istanbul election
The opposition candidate, Ekrem Imamoglu, has a commanding lead with more than 90% of votes counted.
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[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
Yay


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
Fuck Erdogan


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Shush#9067
Most police shootings are absolutely justified. a minority isnt


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess we're gonna the another rerun


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Shush#9067
What happened in those instances.


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
lol no


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Until the voters get it right


[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JosephSakran/status/1139605593944014848

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I’m going to put a cap right in your f*cking head......”

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[23-Jun-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well what happenes in half the cases is police heard "black guy" got the wrong suspect and thne tried to frame said wrong suspect


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that phoenix police held a black family at gunpoint and beat up the father because a little 3 year old girl walked out of a store with a barbie dall


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Shush#9067
Turkey is fucked we know that lol


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Shush#9067
Individual cases aren't really interesting if you want to look at the larger scale of things.


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Shush#9067
But yeah thats bad


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Shush#9067
Obviously


[23-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
there's too many "individual cases" to disregard it as cherrypicking


[23-Jun-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
we're not cherry picking examples


[23-Jun-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
this is a consistent pattern


[23-Jun-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the chicago police force runs itself like a crime gang


[23-Jun-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
we get multiple that make national headlines every week


[23-Jun-19 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
to word it differently, when the "cherrypicking" picks up half the cherries on the tree, you know there's a problem


[23-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
2 months ago, there were 3 legally armed black men shot by police just for having guns


[23-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
all within a week of each other


[23-Jun-19 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
the reason why california is so heavy on gun control today is because ronald reagan introduced laws to curtail the black panther party's ability to open carry guns


[23-Jun-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
which they were doing so with the threat of shooting police caught beating up random black people in LA for no reason


[23-Jun-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, reddit locked the shitty people reddit


[23-Jun-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[23-Jun-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reddit mods privated /iamatotalpieceofshit


[23-Jun-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently someone decided to ruin it for everyone


[23-Jun-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was going to use it to find mroe examples of police abuse


[23-Jun-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cause that's where i usually find this sort of thing


[23-Jun-19 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/c2hd0z/riamatotalpieceofshit_has_been_closed_due_to/

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r/SubredditDrama - /r/iamatotalpieceofshit has been closed due to ...
8,061 votes and 1,530 comments so far on Reddit


[23-Jun-19 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
aw


[23-Jun-19 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I used to browse that one all the time


[23-Jun-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
>Interesting that the mods actually all agreed to closing down a sub, I doubt the subscribers are happy. Doubt the admins will do anything though since it's not just one rogue mod.


[23-Jun-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr shitty people organizing doxxing/witch hunts caused the mods to give up and burn it all


[23-Jun-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're talking about the platform that disallows images of anime girls in swimsuits


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They shut things down at the drop of a hat


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
reddit is veeeeery censorship heavy


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
this wasn't reddit though, it was the community mods locking it down


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason people havn't left is because they havn't yet gone after piracy.


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man.


[23-Jun-19 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
the subreddit mods or whatever


[23-Jun-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwVwFxyk4

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Whole Worker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwVwFxyk4
Amazon's Union-Busting Training Video (LONG VERSION)
The full version of Amazon's union-busting training video that was sent to Whole Foods management in 2018. It was then leaked by Whole Worker to the media. @...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uRpwVwFxyk4/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jun-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez


[23-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
UNIONS POSE A THREAT TO THIS DIRECT CONNECTION


[23-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're basically arguing that your manager is like a loving parent


[23-Jun-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that the union is like some evil guy getting in the way of mommy's love


[23-Jun-19 08:04 PM] ononim#8141
Fiting since Amazon is abusive as hell


[23-Jun-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My fave I've seen before is basically "You're smart, why do you need someone else to speak for you"


[23-Jun-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also try to pass it off as better for the customer


[23-Jun-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man


[23-Jun-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
/v/ gets upset whenever unionizing is talked about in the gaming industry


[23-Jun-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"my games will cost $400"


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also you're supposed to warn HR if you see "signs of organizing"


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
that includes *words* related to worker rights


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
as in, "contract" or "living wage"


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
(about 16 minutes in)


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So surveillance


[23-Jun-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[23-Jun-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Surveillance tied to even the perception of someone being liberal on workers rights


[23-Jun-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc the video completely changes tone


[23-Jun-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's minutes and minutes about how to recognize WARNING SIGNS


[23-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
presented in the same manner I've seen done about recognizing spousal abuse


[23-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
but for recognizing employees considering unionization


[23-Jun-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't conduct surveillance like this


[23-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally telling them to ask people why they're in the breakroom for so long after work


[23-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and figure out if the excuse holds up


[23-Jun-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's training employees to be spies on each other.


[23-Jun-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
21 minutes in...it's about to go over what you can't say about unions.


[23-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh


[23-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
okay so it's actually done for legal reasons, like "you can't actually spy" etc.


[23-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
but


[23-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
as soon as it starts talking about threats, it says *what to do instead*


[23-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is to repeatedly emphasize how unions are a threat


[23-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
rather than directly say someone will be fired for joining one, you say how unions are bad for business.


[23-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait they say "spying" isn't what they're promoting management does in break rooms


[23-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[23-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're saying "spying" would be to attend a union meeting


[23-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
with any intent to report the events


[23-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
...they way they've said that tho


[23-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
makes it indicate it's against the rules to go to a meeting at all


[23-Jun-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
since you also can't directly discuss union meetings


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they believe that having employees snitch on suspected organizing to HR isn't spying


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
but attending union meetings is.


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well no shit the latter is


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the way it's presented


[23-Jun-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
regular employees are not allowed to talk about unions at all


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The acronym they use is TIPS


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
for what not to do


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
T = Threaten, instead say that businesses are less competitive with unionization, worker manager relationship etc.


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
I = Interrogate, instead ask "questions we normally would"...and then they go on a looooong list


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
like


[23-Jun-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
the clear intent is to ask questions that don't mention the union


[23-Jun-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that will find out about it from the answers


[23-Jun-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is to interrogate but not explicitly confront about the union


[23-Jun-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and to "use the power of silence"


[23-Jun-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[23-Jun-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
just stop talking, so the other guy spills the beans.


[23-Jun-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
"If you're speaking about a topic like a recent union meeting, using well-placed periods of silence may lead associates to volunteer additional detail."


[23-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That sentence was part of the section about how you *shouldn't* interrogate.


[23-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying to work around the law by getting the unionized employees to giv you everything themselves so you can snitch better.


[23-Jun-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're training employees to spy within the law, @Itsthinking


[23-Jun-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Almost going too far


[23-Jun-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get it, worst case scenario is that they call for an election


[23-Jun-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which are monitored to make sure it's fair


[23-Jun-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
uh-uh-uh, you're not allowed to ask people what they voted for


[23-Jun-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you are allowed to be silent and let them jabber on


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So you get information that you treat them differently on


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
without putting anything on record that could burn you.


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which will fuck you


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, if you know it and treat them differently


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That will burn you


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's gotten to the Spy section


[23-Jun-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they're saying, don't eavesdrop or hang around outside your usual patterns...


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hear someone discussing unions


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
butt into the conversation


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
and share your opinion


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that of the company)


[23-Jun-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
To "create safe conversations where we can help educate employees about unions, and the benefits of a direct working relationship"


[23-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Management has a very wide latitude for giving opinions on unions


[23-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They can say they don't like them, that they would be bad here, etc


[23-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't just for management, note


[23-Jun-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're saying that you, as an associate


[23-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
should butt into conversations to provide the company spiel


[23-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is for supervisors


[23-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, so dept managers


[23-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy 26 minutes in


[23-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're now talking about how unions are treacherous


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
"but a union's promises are considered to be propaganda..."


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don;t you knwo that amazon is a sovereign nation unto itself?


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pretty sure it has profits exceeding the GDP of most countries


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's saying that unions CAN'T make their promises come true, unlike Amazon


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that "few employees know this"


[23-Jun-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
amazon is the crusher of promises


[23-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
"You should feel very comportable talking to associates about unions, knowing that almost anything you say is lawful"


[23-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only thing management should say ever


[23-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So now it's onto FORE, which is the things to focus on to talk about unions


[23-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoDF9pcUYAA_e4d.png:large

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[23-Jun-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is "We don't think a union would be good here but it's completely up to you guys and we'll respect the decision"


[23-Jun-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that's not happening


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
<https://i.imgur.com/yxEgBWc.png>


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So F is for facts, nothing unusual there


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
rehosting it in case they delete it to try and hide the blunder


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
but O is for opinions


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's saying you're allowed to call unions cheating rats


[23-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Amazon prefers a mild opinion expressed *strongly*"


[23-Jun-19 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"preferably with baseball bats coated in nails"


[23-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
R is for Rules, it's now going on about telling people the nitty gritty of unions


[23-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and how NOTHING IS CERTAIN


[23-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean yeah they can share their opinion


[23-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Huh, video stops before E


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, what you're supposed to do is


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
E is for enema


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
go into the break room regularly


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hear union talk, butt into the conversation


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
repeat Amazon's policy


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if someone wants to talk, let them talk and be taking notes


[23-Jun-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
remember, you're technically not supposed to watch the video recording


[23-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get them to volunteer the details, instead of making Amazon liable


[23-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can express all your anti-union opinions, *strongly*


[23-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Shush#9067
Reee


[23-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Shush#9067
Anti union behaviour


[23-Jun-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and remember, if anyone talks about worker rights, report to HR


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Shush#9067
Walmart got majorly fucked when they attempted their anti union policies in Germany


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Shush#9067
And deservedly so.


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
among other policies...


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Shush#9067
The group chants lmao


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those and the perpetual smile policy


[23-Jun-19 08:36 PM] Shush#9067
Dont make germans smile


[23-Jun-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the greeter policy


[23-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Shush#9067
They will only smile when they genuinely want to.


[23-Jun-19 08:37 PM] Shush#9067
Also its seen as untrustworthy to be constantly smiling in Germanic Europe :V


[23-Jun-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
toys r us also hit a roadblock in a few other countries for anti union bullshit


[23-Jun-19 08:38 PM] Shush#9067
Hmh, I heard of that.


[23-Jun-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eventually they bowed down and accepted the international laws, but they weren;t happy with it


[23-Jun-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart however fought tooth and nail to the bitter end until germany jsut evicted their asses


[23-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Shush#9067
Hmh.


[23-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Shush#9067
Their anti competitor action was also deemed unlawful.


[23-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Shush#9067
Mind you Lidl and Aldi aren't much better.


[23-Jun-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oen where they set up leech stores?


[23-Jun-19 08:39 PM] Shush#9067
They have draconic rules in those two stores.


[23-Jun-19 08:40 PM] Shush#9067
No, i think it was where they lower their prices to the point they lose money on them in the short term. But cause competitors to be unable to offer those prices, thus going bankrupt.


[23-Jun-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[23-Jun-19 08:40 PM] Shush#9067
Considering most local stores are small family run businesses they cant lose money like that, but the mega conglomerate of walmart can.


[23-Jun-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that's illegal in america too, or at elast used to till lobbyists threw cashw ads at politicians


[23-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Shush#9067
Lobbying is the fucking worst


[23-Jun-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[23-Jun-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s only really enforced on small businesses now


[23-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Shush#9067
Luckily over here politicians have to report all gifts and dinners given to them above a certain price.


[23-Jun-19 08:42 PM] Shush#9067
And then they become public record.


[23-Jun-19 08:42 PM] Shush#9067
And you bet other politicians are paying attention to those.


[23-Jun-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the worst  big corps get is a slap on the wrist and an easily payable fine that puts no dent int heir bank


[23-Jun-19 08:42 PM] Shush#9067
Hypercapitalism is bad m'kay


[23-Jun-19 08:42 PM] Shush#9067
Capitalism is great


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] Shush#9067
Just dont take it too far


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] Shush#9067
You need a mostly free market, restrictions do ofcourse apply.


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d rather have social democracy, it;s liek capitalism with the benefits of socialism


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] Shush#9067
Ding ding ding


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people get the care they need and the capitalism gets a healthy fucking economy


[23-Jun-19 08:43 PM] Shush#9067
Social democracies are the best, you get all the benefits of capitalism with hardly any of the drawbacks.


[23-Jun-19 08:44 PM] Shush#9067
Each to their own and each to their needs.


[23-Jun-19 08:44 PM] Shush#9067
You need a healthy balance of capitalist and social policies.


[23-Jun-19 08:45 PM] Shush#9067
You need to nurture your mittelstand  and companies


[23-Jun-19 08:45 PM] Shush#9067
But protect your people from exploitation


[23-Jun-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Compiled a tl;dw of the vid:
1 Amazon believs that associates are like children to you, the supervisor, and a union is like the ex wife coming to take the kids. They are a threat to profits, the "kids", and customers.
2 If anyone talks about workers' rights in any manner, or you see any other "warning signs" of organization, report it to HR immediately. Remember to question employees who spend time in the breakroom unusually, and scrutinize their responses for signs of organization.
3 You can't eavesdrop or poke and prod about union stuff or attend their meetings, but you can butt into any conversation about unions, strongly express Amazon's opinion, and leave periods of silence so suspected unionizers volunteer information without Amazon becoming liable.
4 Don't make any guarantees to workers of changes in treatment based on union activity, and make sure you've established routine rules and behavior to get info from employees before you get wind of unionizing.
5 Make sure to emphasize that anything a union says is just propaganda they can't fulfill, just about anything else you say is legal as well.
6 If they don't want to talk, ask "normal" questions like how things are going until they do.


[23-Jun-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking ^


[23-Jun-19 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
The fuck is hypercapitalism but the same old capitalism freed from post-depression caution.


[23-Jun-19 08:54 PM] Shush#9067
Unlike you, I dont think capitalism is always bad.


[23-Jun-19 08:54 PM] Shush#9067
Hypercapitalism is unsustainable, unchecked capitalism.


[23-Jun-19 08:55 PM] Shush#9067
That seeks to exploit the people, as we see in the United States.


[23-Jun-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
It sounds more like you're trying to project an idealism of capitalism that doesn't belong to it.


[23-Jun-19 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
And it's kind of funny


[23-Jun-19 08:56 PM] Shush#9067
Capitalism done many great things, among many bad things. But the good has outweighed the bad in the long term.


[23-Jun-19 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
So has Soveriegn societies in the pre-capitalist world but you don't see anyone advocating for going back to a time when the king owned everything. What is done materially doesn't change anything when it leaves the structural contradictions alive and well, or simply shifts the abuse and refuses to acknowledge or change that.


[23-Jun-19 08:59 PM] Shush#9067
Since the birth of modern economics in the 18th century we have seen massive innovation that wouldnt have been possible without it.


[23-Jun-19 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
And?


[23-Jun-19 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is legit trash tier STEM Lord scientism shit


[23-Jun-19 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
And that's not reality


[23-Jun-19 09:00 PM] Shush#9067
Scientism?


[23-Jun-19 09:01 PM] Shush#9067
Science should lead our endeavours. Knowledge above all.


[23-Jun-19 09:02 PM] Shush#9067
Science has a great track record of solving our problems and replacing them with newer 'better' problems.


[23-Jun-19 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Listen, I can tell you put all your faith in the determinism of technological progress as if that fixes everything. But lacking any social critique or critique of relationships between people at a structural level you're like Nikola Tesla dreaming of a techno future where capitalism will just fade away with the ability to provide free electricity with no power cables, but not realizing just how this progress is impeded by the companies that run the show. You don't have anything but a dogmatic worship of the hard sciences, which has beneficial as they are do not solve everything.


[23-Jun-19 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
So I'll have my laugh, and pointing this out take my leave. Because I got better things to do then poke some furry with runes in his name


[23-Jun-19 09:04 PM] Shush#9067
Ah yes, because the runes devaluate my opinion drastically.


[23-Jun-19 09:05 PM] Shush#9067
How very free thinking of you, and yes I put my faith in science, I am after all a scientist.


[23-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Shush#9067
Social critique is nessecairy but a side issue to human development, our progress is based in science and the uplifting of our species.


[23-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Shush#9067
Would you rather argue primitivism rather than anything else?


[23-Jun-19 10:01 PM] byte[]#2610
the argument isn't for primitism it's that science and capitalism aren't related


[23-Jun-19 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
science and technological progress are greatly hindered by capitalism


[23-Jun-19 10:02 PM] Shush#9067
They are supported and nurtured by it.


[23-Jun-19 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
horseshit


[23-Jun-19 10:02 PM] Shush#9067
The private sector gives a shitload more grants and money to research groups.


[23-Jun-19 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
the only thing that it helped is economies of scale


[23-Jun-19 10:03 PM] Shush#9067
Its because companies try to out do eachother on R&D that they spend to much on science.


[23-Jun-19 10:03 PM] Shush#9067
Getting tenure or grants from the govmnt is pretty hard, getting it from the private sector is much easier.


[23-Jun-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
...and then withhold journal publication, demand payment for access, cut corners in safety, and bribe people to buy the results of their research


[23-Jun-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
same old same old


[23-Jun-19 10:04 PM] Shush#9067
They often publish journals and safety is an extreme focus.


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Shush#9067
And yeah, pay walled journals are a thing.


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
again total bs


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Shush#9067
But they generally are free for academic institutions.


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
the only safety is for the shareholders' wallets


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Shush#9067
Do you have any lab experience?


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah I do


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] Shush#9067
The amount of safety shit you have to jump through is insane.


[23-Jun-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not the kind of safety I'm referring to


[23-Jun-19 10:06 PM] Shush#9067
What kind of safety are you referring to?


[23-Jun-19 10:06 PM] Shush#9067
Because the push for personal/departmental safety in labs is insane.


[23-Jun-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
you can make risperidone in totally safe lab conditions


[23-Jun-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
glove boxes for everything


[23-Jun-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
respirators


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
then once it's out of testing and in mass production pay doctors to prescribe it for off-label use


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] Shush#9067
Oh, thats another issue entirely.


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
of which the most common side effect is prepubescent gynecomastia


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah, off label use is rampant with many antipsychotic medications.


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a ridiculous safety issue


[23-Jun-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
all thanks to capitalism


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
J&J got a little slap on the wrist for that one


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] Shush#9067
Not really, overmedication is not really a general capitalistic problem.


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] Shush#9067
But it is a problem.


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
they accept public health and safety violation fines as a _cost of doing business_


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
thanks, capitalism


[23-Jun-19 10:08 PM] Shush#9067
Pharma companies are not known for their ethical behaviour.


[23-Jun-19 10:09 PM] Shush#9067
But in some cases, the off label use of medicine is effective and safe.


[23-Jun-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[23-Jun-19 10:09 PM] Shush#9067
prepubescent breast development isn't a major side effect, its easily treated. But not desirable.


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhaha


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the medication they made off-label


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
was never proven to even work better than its replacement


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the only reason they were making it was to renew patent


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
old medication went out of patent so they made a new chemical


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Shush#9067
You do see that a lot, pharma is riddled with issues like that.


[23-Jun-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
they then forced it to be used off-label for things no evidence said it had any effect on


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
m8 this isn't just pharma


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Comcast recently literally was scamming people with a fake service plan


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Shush#9067
Apple does too


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Shush#9067
Im not excusing any of that. Its bad, and should not be legal.


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
once businesses become very large, they are willing to do all sorts of things to get extra income


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
so what's your point


[23-Jun-19 10:11 PM] Shush#9067
Apple blatantly flaunts Eu legislation at times.


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
this is capitalistic behavior


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
why do you think it is not a hindrance to scientific activity


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apple deliberately tries to make products unrepairable


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Shush#9067
Yep. They do that.


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
creating tons of polluting waste


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Shush#9067
And that is bad.


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and making people spend more on Apple services and stay under Apple's umbrella


[23-Jun-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apple doesn't giv a fukk about science


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
companies are also the main innovators and main spenders on R&D


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
any business interaction with science involves paying for desired results


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
Its not a perfect system, but it isnt the worst by any means.


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
actual discoveries tend to be made on gov't many


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then the businesses patent that shit


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
Govmnt does a lot of basic science (thank god for that)


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
did you see any of what happened with BRCA 1 btw?


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
Businesses are usually uninterested in basic science


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
I did not.


[23-Jun-19 10:13 PM] Shush#9067
Link?


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd need to be a lot of links, I'll giv you the short of it


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
gov't funded research found a gene associated with a common type of breast cancer


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
BAM, patented


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
the actual gene was patented


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
not the test for it


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
but any testing or looking at the gene whatsoever


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Myriad Genetics was the business IIRC


[23-Jun-19 10:14 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah you see shit like that more often sadly, its fucking bullshit.


[23-Jun-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
for over a decade, they had to be paid every single time anyone looked at the contents of that section of the human genome


[23-Jun-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
stifling basic research into further stuff with the gene


[23-Jun-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
eventually however...


[23-Jun-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/supreme-court-strikes-brca-gene-patent/story?id=19392299

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Supreme Court Rejects Gene Patent
The Supreme Court ruled today that isolated human genes cannot be patented, a partial defeat for Myriad Genetics, a company that had been awarded patents on the so-called BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes in the 1990s.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/gty_myriad_kb_130613_wmain.jpg


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Shush#9067
If you want to talk about a restructuring of the patent system I am well open to that, I just dont think we ought to throw the baby out with the bath water.


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
the baby is scientific research


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
the bathwater is the patent system.


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Shush#9067
The patent system needs overhauling, we dont disagree on that.


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
mate I don't want overhauling


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Shush#9067
But saying as byte did is simply not right.


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
I want it torn out and thrown in a fire


[23-Jun-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
it shouldn't exist.


[23-Jun-19 10:17 PM] Shush#9067
there needs to be some kind of way for people to profit off of their inventions but the length and exemptions on patents need to be looked at.


[23-Jun-19 10:17 PM] Shush#9067
We differ on that point


[23-Jun-19 10:17 PM] Shush#9067
But we do agree that the current system is fucked.


[23-Jun-19 10:18 PM] Shush#9067
I believe however, phenomenon and things in nature are not able to be patented, as in you cant patent the sun.


[23-Jun-19 10:18 PM] Shush#9067
That should be extended to genes, but not gene editing.


[23-Jun-19 10:18 PM] Shush#9067
But I am no geneticist


[23-Jun-19 10:19 PM] Shush#9067
but moving back to the funding question.


[23-Jun-19 10:19 PM] Shush#9067
And to the off label use of medicine.


[23-Jun-19 10:20 PM] Shush#9067
The off label use of medicine is also a problem with the drug approval process, where a drug may be effective against multiple things, but not yet be approved for those specific instances, where it has been proven to be safe and effective for a similar but different disorder.


[23-Jun-19 10:21 PM] Shush#9067
A docter may however prescribe something off label, and that may be effective.


[23-Jun-19 10:21 PM] Shush#9067
Using risperidone for extreme cases of ADHD for example.


[23-Jun-19 10:21 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’m actually curious


[23-Jun-19 10:22 PM] Shush#9067
Its not approved for that, but it is effective, and risperidone has been proven to be safe.


[23-Jun-19 10:22 PM] ISamusI#5581
Are doctors taught to give ineffective stuff and never taught actually effective stuff? Or are many of them just really that bad?


[23-Jun-19 10:22 PM] ISamusI#5581
For some things, obviously. All would be too suspicious


[23-Jun-19 10:22 PM] Shush#9067
There are many things that go into a doctor prescribing a certain treatment, im not a MD myself though.


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
most doctors are people who were able to memorize enough shit to pass their exams for med school


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] ISamusI#5581
Like what ever happened to that Indian cancer cure?


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't have to be particularly smart to be a doctor, just look at ben carson


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
he's a total retard


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] ISamusI#5581
Name sounds familiar but I don’t remember him


[23-Jun-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
google it


[23-Jun-19 10:24 PM] Shush#9067
Doctors are most certainly intelligent but they may not always have the best reasoning for their choices.


[23-Jun-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I assume you're also of the mindset that all veterans are heroes


[23-Jun-19 10:24 PM] Shush#9067
I do not.


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] Shush#9067
Why would you think that?


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
then don't paint with broad strokes like that


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] ISamusI#5581
Def not. Veteran may be good at their jobs, but they might be pretty dang mean. (Understated)


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just not true that all doctors are intelligent and I explained why above


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] Shush#9067
you need to be a smart person to pass the exams and memorise the amount of stuff you are expected to know.


[23-Jun-19 10:25 PM] Shush#9067
No, you didnt explain anything, you just told us he isnt.


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] Shush#9067
Explain why he isnt.


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
`most doctors are people who were able to memorize enough shit to pass their exams for med school`


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the explanation


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] Shush#9067
Is that all?


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
memory and intelligence are correlated but but there is not a causal link


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] ISamusI#5581
I think he means the lack of using it properly over just having the terms


[23-Jun-19 10:26 PM] Shush#9067
You need more than just memorisation


[23-Jun-19 10:27 PM] Shush#9067
You also need to be able to conduct research and reason properly and effectively


[23-Jun-19 10:27 PM] Shush#9067
Not to mention preform under stress


[23-Jun-19 10:27 PM] Shush#9067
Be familiar with human nature and be able to make personal connections with people


[23-Jun-19 10:27 PM] Shush#9067
And have the skills to diagnose and piece together medical problems.


[23-Jun-19 10:28 PM] Shush#9067
All those things relate to aspects of intelligence


[23-Jun-19 10:29 PM] ISamusI#5581
Patience as well. Some things take time. Stress can also be outweighed with patience.


[23-Jun-19 10:29 PM] Shush#9067
But I am curious, what was your assertion with the veterans being heroes.


[23-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Shush#9067
I infact think veterans are not heroes.


[23-Jun-19 10:30 PM] ISamusI#5581
Not a fan of celebrating murder.


[23-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Shush#9067
^


[23-Jun-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
it's another common overbroad generalization


[23-Jun-19 10:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’m sure various veterans are legit good people. I really just dislike the killing bit.


[23-Jun-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
kids are conditioned to say it in school because it fits the government's motives


[23-Jun-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and that conditioning sticks with people


[23-Jun-19 10:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
Do they even know why?


[23-Jun-19 10:32 PM] ISamusI#5581
Or is it just regurgitated over and over until they repeat it


[23-Jun-19 10:32 PM] Shush#9067
I was never conditioned about anything about military personnel.


[23-Jun-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I was


[23-Jun-19 10:32 PM] Shush#9067
American I take?


[23-Jun-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I was also repeatedly forced to stand for the pledge (illegal) and say "under god" (illegal)


[23-Jun-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, I live in burgerstan


[23-Jun-19 10:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
Illegal Back then or today?


[23-Jun-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
both


[23-Jun-19 10:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
Gotcha


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] Shush#9067
Im not sure when the caselaw about not being allowed be made to stand for the pledge was.


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] Shush#9067
But I know there is case law on it.


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] Shush#9067
But I'm just not sure on it.


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't be forced to stand for it


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] Shush#9067
But it was quite some time ago, as people refusing to stand for the pledge in the US go back quite some while.


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah I know.


[23-Jun-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't be forced to say it


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Shush#9067
But I believe there is some case law on that supporting that stance


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
Minor inquiry, how many laws within the constitution are actively being broken today?


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I was forced to do both and the school didn't let up until my family contacted the FFRF


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
By the gov


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
every single amendment right


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
Every one, literally?


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
probably about 3/4 of the article clauses


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette_


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] ISamusI#5581
For knowledge sake, TL;DR rundown?


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That was the case


[23-Jun-19 10:35 PM] Shush#9067
I take it somewhere in the 60s? @Itsthinking


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
1943


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] ISamusI#5581
What amendment and how, rather


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Shush#9067
Ah, thanks for the info.


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Forcing people to say the pledge violates their religion


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Shush#9067
Case law is important but such a pain to look up.


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Shush#9067
Oh it does.


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Shush#9067
(officially since 1943 :P)


[23-Jun-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why you can affirm things instead of swearing


[23-Jun-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because several religions you cannot swear an oath


[23-Jun-19 10:37 PM] ISamusI#5581
Oh, that swearing


[23-Jun-19 10:37 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’m used to swearing itself being used to replace cursing


[23-Jun-19 10:38 PM] Shush#9067
Some nations got around that by getting people to affirm on their conscious and honour.


[23-Jun-19 10:38 PM] Shush#9067
Norway being one of those.


[23-Jun-19 10:38 PM] Shush#9067
Others just by having people say 'I do so promise'


[23-Jun-19 10:38 PM] Shush#9067
Both of which may be legally binding


[23-Jun-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
1st- freedom of speech religion assembly press etc. (attacks on journalists)
2nd- bump stock restrictions etc.
3rd- not violated
4th- civil asset forfeiture, no-knock raids
5th- similar in scope to 4th 
6th- racially/sexually biased jury selection
7th- not violated
8th- SCOTUS formerly ruled that death penalty violates the 8th but this was later overturned, many states have now outlawed it or declared it against their own constitutions
9th- scope of federal government
10th- scope of federal government


[23-Jun-19 10:40 PM] ISamusI#5581
I am also curious, where do you guys primarily get your information from?


[23-Jun-19 10:41 PM] Shush#9067
Exemptions can be made to any part of any constitution


[23-Jun-19 10:41 PM] Shush#9067
As long as the constitutional court decides so


[23-Jun-19 10:41 PM] Shush#9067
They tend to act in the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law


[23-Jun-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I get it from mostly nytimes (I have a subscription) and npr


[23-Jun-19 10:41 PM] Shush#9067
It gets kind of up for interpretation


[23-Jun-19 10:43 PM] Shush#9067
I mean one can say being disallowed from owning a fully functioning thermonuclear bomb is against the 2nd amendment (no recreational McNukes for you)


[23-Jun-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I would say that the 2nd is still violated in that case


[23-Jun-19 10:43 PM] Shush#9067
But general consensus in the constitutional courts I wager would be that it is exempt from the arms category


[23-Jun-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
My viewpoint is that the 2nd shouldn't exist


[23-Jun-19 10:43 PM] ISamusI#5581
Let’s be within reason I suppose. If we were to discuss what the scope of the 2nd amendment should be, what would you say?


[23-Jun-19 10:44 PM] ISamusI#5581
What should and should not be excluded?


[23-Jun-19 10:44 PM] Shush#9067
If the constitutional scholars judge something to be a certain way that is the general working interpretation of the constitution of a nation


[23-Jun-19 10:44 PM] Shush#9067
Again spirit of the law v letter of the law


[23-Jun-19 10:45 PM] Shush#9067
Law is a hairy subject and it gets really complicated and semantical real fast.


[23-Jun-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
ideally: you can't have a gun unless you're a cop, if you want to go shoot stuff at the range you can't leave with anything


[23-Jun-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
in practice it's far too late


[23-Jun-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
we had the chance and we blew it


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
I think we ought to have bullet tasers.


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] Shush#9067
Ideally my gun laws are a bit different


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] Shush#9067
We do


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] Shush#9067
they are tasers


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
Ranged non-wired non-cqc tasers


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] Shush#9067
Again I believe those are on the market


[23-Jun-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
why not just rubber bullets


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm, nah. Might not work on thicker clothing.


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
oh they do


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
They do?


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] Shush#9067
I mean cops should have a whole range of tools


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
they tear right through it


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] Shush#9067
ranging from lethal to less than lethal weaponry


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
Dang, how dangerous are they?


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] Shush#9067
Rubber bullets are actually pretty dangerous


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean if you're wearing chainmail it's probably just gonna sting a bit


[23-Jun-19 10:47 PM] Shush#9067
they can and have killed people


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
but anything less than that is going to be quite dangerous


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
Its just not very common


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
Any weapon can kill


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
Tasers have killed


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd say the danger level between rubber bullets and stun guns is about equal


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
blugeons/night sticks have killed


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
Any use of force can be lethal


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm, how often (if known) do break ins and robberies come with defensive armor? Chainmail or bullet resisting vests etc


[23-Jun-19 10:48 PM] Shush#9067
But some are more likely to have a lethal outcome than others


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
never


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] Shush#9067
Not often


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] Shush#9067
Breakins are generally preformed when the occupant isnt at home


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] Shush#9067
(in the US)


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
So lesser dangerous things, mostly for pain or stunning, might be preferred


[23-Jun-19 10:49 PM] ISamusI#5581
What about non ranged? Like swords, non sharp melee, etc?


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] ISamusI#5581
Those little fist spikes


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] ISamusI#5581
How do you feel they fit within this?


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] Shush#9067
People rarely protect themselves with swords


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] Shush#9067
It recently happened in Texas


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] Shush#9067
He cut someones hand off or almost off I believe


[23-Jun-19 10:50 PM] Shush#9067
The autism was strong with that one


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
Dang. What’d he do to earn that?


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Shush#9067
He pushed the sword boi


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Shush#9067
Aaaaaaaaanyway


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Shush#9067
Back on point


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
That seems excessive lol.


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] ISamusI#5581
But ye


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Shush#9067
He was arrested for excessive use of force


[23-Jun-19 10:51 PM] Shush#9067
(or well grave assault with a deadly weapon)


[23-Jun-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
for reference, rubber bullets can break collarbones and fingers


[23-Jun-19 10:52 PM] Shush#9067
^


[23-Jun-19 10:52 PM] Shush#9067
They are not nerf guns


[23-Jun-19 10:53 PM] Shush#9067
Cops should be armed, not a lot of people would argue against that. (and they need to be armed in the US because of how ubiquitous arms are there)


[23-Jun-19 10:53 PM] Shush#9067
Usually the question is, which arms should they be provided with in general day to day use.


[23-Jun-19 10:53 PM] Shush#9067
Again most people are fine with a baton


[23-Jun-19 10:53 PM] Shush#9067
But once you make the step to handguns you get into debate territory with some people


[23-Jun-19 10:54 PM] ISamusI#5581
I can see a pistol being the least worrying for more normal threats (normal being non terroristic etc). Barons for more non-lethal dangers (like pedos/unarmed robbers trying to resist etc).


[23-Jun-19 10:55 PM] ISamusI#5581
Batons* not barons


[23-Jun-19 10:55 PM] Shush#9067
Personally I do think they should carry handguns as their daily kit. But once you go to rifles Id be unsure, the police should have access to them, but they shouldnt be the default armament of a street/patrol officer.


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
also, a lot of cutting-edge R&D done by private companies are publicly funded, and in the US they can turn around and patent publicly funded scientific advancements and sell them for a stupidly massive profit


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
going back to that thing a couple hours ago


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] ISamusI#5581
Not used to the sniping idea. But I for non lethal use can imagine some good use for it. Blowing out or otherwise hindering criminally used vehicles to a stopping point


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Shush#9067
Hmm in Europe generally publicly funded development work cannot be patented


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Shush#9067
Or can only be patented by the state


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
yep, that's murica


[23-Jun-19 10:56 PM] Shush#9067
Who will tend to either make the royalties decently cheap/nonexistent


[23-Jun-19 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
publicly funded private profits


[23-Jun-19 10:57 PM] Shush#9067
Clearly somehing is wrong there


[23-Jun-19 10:57 PM] Shush#9067
that shouldnt happen


[23-Jun-19 10:58 PM] Shush#9067
If the privates paid a part of it or supplied something of value they however should get a part of the proceeds


[23-Jun-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-19 10:58 PM] ISamusI#5581
Are you saying that civilian related activities that are funded by other civilians are taxed by companies?


[23-Jun-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
wait until you see how much you gotta pay for insulin in this country


[23-Jun-19 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
$1730 a month for the medicine they're talking about in that video


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
in the US


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Shush#9067
Puiblic meaning funded by the state


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
it's $4 a month in australia


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Shush#9067
Id wager its something like that in most of europe


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] ISamusI#5581
Dagnam


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] ISamusI#5581
That’s a lot less


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Shush#9067
Price gauging is a massive issue in the US


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
it's a generic drug


[23-Jun-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
but they have a "special patent" on the process they use to make it


[23-Jun-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
that only applies to the US


[23-Jun-19 11:01 PM] ISamusI#5581
How much sugar is in Australia? Lol


[23-Jun-19 11:01 PM] Shush#9067
Oh yeah we get some of those too


[23-Jun-19 11:01 PM] Shush#9067
They get the exclusive production rights to a region


[23-Jun-19 11:01 PM] Shush#9067
In parts of Europe you however have pharmacies that create their own drugs (in practise mostly academic hospitals that can afford to fund that kind of chemistry)


[23-Jun-19 11:02 PM] Shush#9067
But some pharmacies do make their own drugs in certain instances


[23-Jun-19 11:02 PM] Shush#9067
Which exempts them from any royalties


[23-Jun-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
they aren't making their own drug though


[23-Jun-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
they're making a generic drug


[23-Jun-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
they just have a patent on the process to make it, even though that process makes it vastly cheaper to make the generic drug than competing processes, they mark up the price to ludicrous amounts within the US only, even though the process was developed using public funding from the US


[23-Jun-19 11:11 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah, you see that sometimes, its really shit.


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Shush#9067
Price gauging should simply not be allowed


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you see this *all* the time


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
this is peak capitalism


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
this is the ultimate goal


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the only instances you don't see it are when someone successfully won a lawsuit


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Shush#9067
As Ive mentioned in the past you need to restrict the market to protect the people, this clearly is one of those instances.


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and even then, it tends to be way overpriced still


[23-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
it harkens back to the golden age of capitalism in the late 1800's and early 1900's


[23-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Shush#9067
The US is due for some better regulated markets


[23-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Shush#9067
Markets must be regulated, its how you keep them from becoming harmful to a nation


[23-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
and how do you do that when the companies that don't want the regulations of the 50's and 60's to come back have all of the money they need to just buy out the politicians?


[23-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Shush#9067
That is a problem the US needs to be working on


[23-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Shush#9067
Getting rid of lobbying would be one of those steps


[23-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Shush#9067
And swinging the anti-trust hammer like was done in the early 20th century


[23-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Shush#9067
America is something that I would call hypercapitalistic


[23-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Shush#9067
Which is just bad


[23-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Shush#9067
It enriches a few but impoverishes many more.


[23-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Shush#9067
But I dont think scrapping the whole free market as some would suggest is the way to fix the problems, what you end up doing with a fully planned economy also doesnt do anyone much good


[23-Jun-19 11:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Exactly how do you define the "free market"


[23-Jun-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
the only alternative to capitalism isn't just a planned economy either


[23-Jun-19 11:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Monopolies are not a free market


[23-Jun-19 11:17 PM] Shush#9067
They arent


[23-Jun-19 11:17 PM] Shush#9067
But if left unregulated the markets will drift to monopolies


[23-Jun-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
it's just one of multiple alternatives


[23-Jun-19 11:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And in this case, I mean monopoly in the sense of a single supplier of a product or service


[23-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Shush#9067
I think the majority of Europe does it well with decent levels of regulation to keep the markets in check and ensure that monopolies do not form


[23-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah I understand


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Shush#9067
Nationalising of a certain branch or product didnt go very well


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
ironically, the liberals in norway are on their way out because they've proven inept at running the social democratic system


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Shush#9067
It was tried in post war Europe a lot


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
the social democrats are gaining power again


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Shush#9067
Social democracy is best


[23-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
US conservatives were trying to spin it as the "dirty liberals get what's coming for them", but completely failed to mention that it was driving the country more to the left


[23-Jun-19 11:20 PM] Shush#9067
I like to see social democrats as either the most right wing of the left or the most left wing of the right


[23-Jun-19 11:21 PM] Shush#9067
Crow, what would the economic system of your choice be?


[23-Jun-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
social democracy


[23-Jun-19 11:21 PM] Shush#9067
Much agreed.


[23-Jun-19 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thirded


[23-Jun-19 11:22 PM] Shush#9067
Some people here seem almost marxist in their dislike for capitalism


[23-Jun-19 11:22 PM] Shush#9067
I have a pretty interesting political questionaire compass style thing somewhere


[23-Jun-19 11:22 PM] Shush#9067
that is a bit more than just your general 2 axis result


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] Shush#9067
Let me find it


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've taken that political compass test and came out with the "social democrat" result before


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's floated around this channel a couple times


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] Shush#9067
1 sec drudging


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
marx's ideas resonate with me


[23-Jun-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
all but like 3 people here are in the social democrat area


[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which makes it a bit difficult to find people to break the bubble - most right-leaning servers I'm in have a "we don't talk about that" attitude towards politics


[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
basically, if you live in the US, there's so many reasons to criticize capitalism it isn't even funny


[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] Shush#9067
I quite like this one


[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] Shush#9067
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/quiz/

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[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the one


[23-Jun-19 11:24 PM] Shush#9067
This place seems like a bit of an echo chamber for certain ideas


[23-Jun-19 11:25 PM] Shush#9067
But you tend to get that wherever you go.


[23-Jun-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
the only idea that is generally agreed upon here is that unregulated capitalism is destroying the world


[23-Jun-19 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are plenty of disagreements


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
The tone is generally quite set in one direction here from what I see


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
the ideas on how to fix it vary wildly


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Crow#5457
dude, you've only been here for like a day


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
True.


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
Its a limited sample size


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And as far as I can tell, it's been mostly just you and current/former site staff


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
Hmh


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
And Aaron


[23-Jun-19 11:26 PM] Shush#9067
(not sure if he was staff before)


[23-Jun-19 11:27 PM] Shush#9067
Anyhow imma be doing a quick round of politiscales so brb 15 mins


[23-Jun-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?s0=79&femi=29&s1=12&p0=93&p1=5&e0=55&e1=36&c1=50&c0=33&t0=40&t1=36&comp=67&b0=86&b1=7&m0=100&j1=19&j0=76&prag=100&anar=100

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PolitiScales
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[23-Jun-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
The results seem a great deal different from when I last did it


[23-Jun-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know if I changed so much or if the questions are not terribly well defined


[23-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Shush#9067
You can upload the picture it gives you as well


[23-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Shush#9067
Makes compairing easier


[23-Jun-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
discord search isn't finding the one I did a few months back


[23-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Shush#9067
Me neither


[23-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Shush#9067
Im just taking it again


[23-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Shush#9067
Should be approx the same


[23-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Shush#9067
Unless someones changed my mind recently on something


[23-Jun-19 11:37 PM] Shush#9067

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[23-Jun-19 11:37 PM] Shush#9067
Approx the same


[23-Jun-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
seems you punted on many more questions than I did


[23-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Shush#9067
Hm?


[23-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Shush#9067
What do you mean by that?


[23-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Shush#9067
Oh as in being less absolutely yes and no


[23-Jun-19 11:39 PM] Shush#9067
Yeah, I feels there is a lot of grey bits between stances


[23-Jun-19 11:39 PM] Shush#9067
Nuance


[23-Jun-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
opinion surveys work best when you take as many absolute positions as you think you can


[23-Jun-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
in this case I did feel confident in the absolute answers


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Shush#9067
I am more hesitant to deal in absolutes


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Shush#9067
Id rather look into things on a more case by case basis or form a compromise somewhere in the middle


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Shush#9067
the only way to get things done is to sometimes barter with the other side and compromise


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
<http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m0=74&m1=5&b1=5&b0=69&t0=45&t1=24&s1=10&s0=67&p0=57&p1=19&j1=21&j0=48&e1=43&e0=33&c0=55&c1=21&femi=48&prag=100>


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
this is the one I took like a year ago


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
<http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?e1=33&e0=50&s0=71&s1=7&m1=10&m0=79&t0=36&t1=33&p0=74&p1=10&c1=14&c0=64&j0=60&j1=21&b1=5&b0=74&femi=62&prag=100>


[23-Jun-19 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
this is the one I just got


[23-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Shush#9067
Looks like you mellowed out


[23-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Shush#9067
But became more revolutionary


[23-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Shush#9067
Lemme find an older one


[23-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
no, I became less revolutionary


[23-Jun-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
but more communist


[23-Jun-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
somehow


[23-Jun-19 11:43 PM] Shush#9067
Oh put them in the wrong order


[23-Jun-19 11:43 PM] Shush#9067
This is my older one

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[23-Jun-19 11:43 PM] Shush#9067
Versus the one I just got

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[23-Jun-19 11:44 PM] Shush#9067
The differences arent that great


[23-Jun-19 11:46 PM] Shush#9067
Im still very much into reform, regulation of markets and essentialism :V


[23-Jun-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
found my previous test


[23-Jun-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?t1=33&t0=36&c1=33&c0=48&p1=43&p0=31&s0=83&s1=7&b1=29&b0=48&j0=45&j1=33&e0=57&e1=29&m1=5&m0=74&femi=33&prag=100&comp=67

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[23-Jun-19 11:59 PM] Shush#9067
So out of all wingbeat seems closest to my overall beliefs


[24-Jun-19 12:00 AM] Shush#9067
But everyone is pretty distinct


[24-Jun-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least as far as this test is concerned, anyhow


[24-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Shush#9067
Yeh.


[24-Jun-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It seems I've grown a bit more revolutionary since the last time I took this. *I can't imagine why*


[24-Jun-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
well do you want me to put these in 8-dimensional space and measure the euclidean distance


[24-Jun-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
because I can do that


[24-Jun-19 12:01 AM] Shush#9067
do whatever you feel like lol


[24-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Shush#9067
I denounce any and all violence done for political means


[24-Jun-19 12:02 AM] Shush#9067
Staunch reformist :V


[24-Jun-19 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's where I was a couple years ago, for sure


[24-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Shush#9067
I used to be a communist, mostly Leninist


[24-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Shush#9067
especially late-lenin


[24-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Shush#9067
But that is some time ago now


[24-Jun-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For me, not really a fan of communism as a broad system of government. I feel like certain systems work really well at different scales. Communism works at the incredibly small scale (like co-ops), capitalism works at a slightly larger scale, but the system that works best at an international scale...doesn't really exist yet


[24-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Shush#9067
Communism starts to definitely break down at country level. I can see it work up to town to city level.


[24-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Shush#9067
It also requires a certain kind of demographic make up


[24-Jun-19 12:08 AM] Shush#9067
Not a lot of specialised labour


[24-Jun-19 12:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And anarchy as a system, imo, is a bit of an illusion, in that it only appears to work when whatever system is in place is functionally self-evident and fully agreed upon


[24-Jun-19 12:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, it is the rule of unspoken rule


[24-Jun-19 12:10 AM] Shush#9067
Oh I dont think anarchy goes anywhere in the long term.


[24-Jun-19 12:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Politics abhors a vacuum


[24-Jun-19 12:10 AM] Shush#9067
Anarchy might even be more likely to spin rapidly into authoritarianism


[24-Jun-19 12:11 AM] Shush#9067
Or sectarian fracturing, not too sure.


[24-Jun-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem as you point out is in the scale


[24-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Shush#9067
Oh im sure anarchism works on a commune size or with very spread out populations


[24-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Shush#9067
Fascism wouldnt work in a small commune


[24-Jun-19 12:12 AM] Shush#9067
Fascism needs an established nation to work


[24-Jun-19 12:13 AM] Shush#9067
Feudalism needs at least towns to work


[24-Jun-19 12:14 AM] Shush#9067
Its kind of interesting to see what the minimum size would be for any system of governance


[24-Jun-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1142151178177978368

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A Trump official tried to argue that detained children don’t need soap, toothbrushes, or beds to be ‘safe and sanitary’ while in Border Patrol custody https://t.co/sRFPZsDbwy
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[24-Jun-19 12:18 AM] Shush#9067
Hmm I dont particularly like now this, I think they rely too heavily on soundbits, loaded language and loaded titles to get their point across.


[24-Jun-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then pay attention to the testimony.


[24-Jun-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
An official literally saying sleep doesn't count as part of safety...


[24-Jun-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just cast doubt on the framing here.


[24-Jun-19 12:22 AM] Shush#9067
She gets continuously cut, I dont know what the rest of the things she is saying are.


[24-Jun-19 12:22 AM] Shush#9067
I distrust nowthis, i personally would seek a different source


[24-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you distrust them?


[24-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you immediately jump to the source attempting to manipulate the evidence?


[24-Jun-19 12:24 AM] Shush#9067
Because they have in the past


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Shush#9067
And that has made me grown to distrust whatever that source says


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what about WaPo? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/21/detained-migrant-children-no-toothbrush-soap-sleep/


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Shush#9067
They may be right here, but I doubt them


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty damn sure they're right here.


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sources concur on what was said.


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Shush#9067
Washington post is much more trustworthy


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bitch literally tried to argue her way out of sleep being part of "safe and sanitary"


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Shush#9067
Slightly biased, but thats fine. But they are good on their factual reporting.


[24-Jun-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
alongside soap, toothbrushes, and basically anything of modern sanitation.


[24-Jun-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The administration's position, effectively, is that the regulations binding them do not actually require *anything* short of walls.


[24-Jun-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And frozen food, I guess.


[24-Jun-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which they do not cook)


[24-Jun-19 12:27 AM] Shush#9067
Reading give me a minute


[24-Jun-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Related https://www.cbsnews.com/news/children-at-border-facility-children-living-inhumane-conditions-texas-border-facility-doctors-attorneys-say/

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250 children living under inhumane conditions at Texas border faci...
Doctors and researchers say they found about 250 infants, children and teens locked up for weeks without adequate food, water and sanitation
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[24-Jun-19 12:29 AM] Shush#9067
Alright its not as bad as the initial clip would make it out to be, but its not good conditions either.


[24-Jun-19 12:29 AM] Shush#9067
Its evident conditions need to improve


[24-Jun-19 12:30 AM] Shush#9067
So at the very least basic needs and hygene needs can be met


[24-Jun-19 12:30 AM] Shush#9067
They are now met but to a very low standard that standard needs to rise thats evident,


[24-Jun-19 12:30 AM] Shush#9067
The quality of sleep is what I would assume to be poor


[24-Jun-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And this is the part where we differ immensely. Our political leanings may be similar, but we seem to digest news in completely different ways


[24-Jun-19 12:35 AM] Shush#9067
I have gotten to a habit of screening my news outlets with bias listing sites and fact checking sites


[24-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Shush#9067
Now This scores kinda mixed on factual reporting and has a very strong left bias


[24-Jun-19 12:36 AM] Shush#9067
I also watch a lot of youtube of varour creators


[24-Jun-19 12:37 AM] Shush#9067
Going to left, right and centre sources


[24-Jun-19 12:37 AM] Shush#9067
And govmnt owned news orgnisations (if western)


[24-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/

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Washington Post - Media Bias/Fact Check
Overall, we rate The Washington Post Left-Center biased due to story selection that favors the left and factually High due to the use of proper sources
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[24-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
reuters is my favorite news source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/

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LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least ...
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[24-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Shush#9067
I use the same site


[24-Jun-19 12:38 AM] Shush#9067
Reuters is amazing


[24-Jun-19 12:39 AM] Shush#9067
I <3 reuters


[24-Jun-19 12:39 AM] Shush#9067
I also like ZDF


[24-Jun-19 12:39 AM] Shush#9067
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zdf-zweites-deutsches-fernsehen/

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ZDF (Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen) - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least...
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[24-Jun-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sidenote, my politiscales changes


[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m1=5&m0=76&p1=19&p0=50&c0=45&femi=14&c1=38&t1=17&t0=50&j1=5&s0=71&j0=69&e0=40&e1=43&b0=71&b1=5

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[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
New http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?c1=33&c0=38&femi=10&j1=17&j0=69&e1=31&e0=43&t0=38&t1=29&b0=76&b1=5&m0=83&m1=5&p1=31&p0=48&s0=81&s1=5&prag=100

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PolitiScales
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[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like there is a consistent pattern among people here


[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], you're a real anarchist now :D


[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
(you got the anarchist badge)


[24-Jun-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ecology is increasing


[24-Jun-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
revolution is backing off a bit too


[24-Jun-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's becoming a bit more obvious we fukked the planet up.


[24-Jun-19 12:41 AM] Shush#9067
Also as a sidenote on now this


[24-Jun-19 12:41 AM] Shush#9067
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/nowthis-news/

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NowThis News - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), pub...
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[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to personally note I don't ever let myself forget the future guy from Deadpool 2's line about the matter.


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Your generation fucked this planet into a coma."


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meant to be funny, sure, but it ain't so funny when you realize it could become true.


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
maybe because of the pushback by leftists like bernie and ocasio-cortez


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
making people feel like the system can be fixed through less violent means


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Shush#9067
I really do not like AOC


[24-Jun-19 12:42 AM] Shush#9067
I like Bernie


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
why? they're pretty similar in political beliefs


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Shush#9067
I think AOC is a bit nutty


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Shush#9067
And very crass


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
or the soundbites you've heard of her are from sources that want to make her sound nutty


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] ISamusI#5581
Aoc?


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
alexandria ocasio-cortez


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] ISamusI#5581
In this case that is


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] ISamusI#5581
Ah


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Shush#9067
I mean, she has some really bad takes.


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
I've heard a shitload of soundbites specifically tailored to make her sound as shrill and hysterical as possible


[24-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Shush#9067
But she also has some good takes.


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Shush#9067
I mean, her voice is kinda shrill.


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Shush#9067
Thats just her voice


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
and cutting up her actual ideas to the point that you can't really tell what she's saying


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I admire AOC being crass


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Shush#9067
I think of AOC as lefty Trump


[24-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think she understands her generation


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, she's 100% millennial


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civility in politics is overrated.


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just don't go full Musk.


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Shush#9067
Civility is very important


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Shush#9067
Musk is great


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
tbh legalized brawls in politics would be a pretty interesting idea


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well both sides abandoned civility.


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Shush#9067
Musk is a meme machine


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a dirty game


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk just calls anyone who questions him a pedophile


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
humans are pretty violent naturally


[24-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
gotta find a way to channel that violence without everyone killing everyone else


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, people using polite words and less swearing to talk about how they took kikkbakks and screwed over the poor and got children killed isn't that important.


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Shush#9067
I believe in treating your political opponent fairly and respectfully


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Irrelevant


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if the opponent pretty much wants to exterminate you though


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the Senate, being polite and treating your opponent with respect never mix


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go for the jugular


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you never treat your opponent with respect


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
not in the Republican party, anyways


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Shush#9067
Nobody in relavant politics is an exterminatus type figure


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch McConnell just tells Dems they sukk


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Shush#9067
So youre fine badger


[24-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment Dems say someone's racist, they get censured.


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not a question of civility, it's a question of principle, ethical imperatives, and the way different ideologies see the world


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ocasio-Cortez enrages the GOP because she is as crass as the GOP is


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that's supposed to be their thing


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
Like i said, lefty trump


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're never gonna convince a neo-nazi, for example, that minorities should be respected and protected


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
Neo nazis are irrelevant


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
They are tiiiiiiiiiiiiiny


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Shush, have you seen her "say I'm the bad guy" speech


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
I dont think I have


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
Link?


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neo nazis aren't tiny tho


[24-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Shush#9067
They really are


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Shush#9067
Theres a few thousand in the US. Tops.


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're growing to levels more or less comparable to radical islamists now


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also she's hot, Its


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Shush#9067
Its not in the hundreds of thousands


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRM1t4RU69c

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRM1t4RU69c
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez lays out 'bad guy' ethics scenario
Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez played "a lightning round game" during a House Oversight Committee hearing on Feb. 6, to emphasize the "broken" system of ethica...
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[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mainstream conservatives concur with them on numerous issues


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
neo nazis are relevant when they end up controlling the public discourse...


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old white men who don't believe in actually stikking to their woman see a hot young woman and OH BABY BABY


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then she's telling them to respect the planet


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they're very confused


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Shush#9067
AOC sounds like a valley girl


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Shush#9067
It bothers me


[24-Jun-19 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah the thing about neo nazis and other bigoted, nationalist groups is that they're VERY LOUD


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hot mama Palin is supposed to praise hunting wolves from planes and DRILL BABY DRILL


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
They are extremists are stupendously loud


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
They are not very numerous though


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't matter because they _control the discourse_


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trust me, when climate change leads to societal collapse and disaster, i'm not sure moderates will be a thing by then


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
The levels of vocal fry AOC uses can make french fries :B


[24-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
Badger thats just not going to happen


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
The world wont end due to climate change


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
Humans will be fine


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Considering we're already seeing every bit of his sentence starting to happen right now...


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
Other animals however


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Present your evidence that it won't collapse


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
Why would it collapse?


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I might end due to climate change


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the world will be okay


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
The world will be fine


[24-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
Life on earth will be fine


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, society


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even think that gaia theory "world will be fine" thing is gonna be true either


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Shush#9067
That will too be fine


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
ultimately I think humans will drive themselves to extinction successfully before we really burn everything down


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Shush#9067
Society lived through worse


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're on the verge of a runaway greenhouse effect


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
many things will die


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
most life on earth will go away


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Shush#9067
There has been much more Co² in the air in past eons


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other words, a greenhouse effect that will not recover on its own


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Captain Marvel and Ocasio-Cortez


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, because there was nature for us to fall back to when societies individually collapsed


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In our modern society tho


[24-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Achilles' heel of any YouTuber


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We're just destroying pretty much everything


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
BAdger its really not that black and white


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah it is


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
Humans in the long term will be fine as a species.


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Present your evidence


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
You made the first claim, not me.


[24-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
But Ill wager you one ice age


[24-Jun-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To corroborate my point, i can already point to the exceptionally fast thawing of Greenland's ice layer recently


[24-Jun-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You just have to connect the dots


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine a Haiti level disaster every single week


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And increasingly frequent after that


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Shush#9067
Climate change is not oing to be a 2012 film type thing


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's going to be slow


[24-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Shush#9067
Itll mostly mean our seasonal storms will get worse.


[24-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Shush#9067
Wet climates stand to get increased rainfall and dry climates stand to be dryer.


[24-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
it getting colder is actually better for humanity than it getting hotter


[24-Jun-19 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A large ammount of little disasters happening one by one in increasingly quicker rates, it's pretty ugly still


[24-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Shush#9067
Will climate change be bad, yes. Will it extinct humans or civilisation, no.


[24-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: arctic permafrost is melting 70 years earlier than predicted in some areas


[24-Jun-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
(it isn't actually fun)


[24-Jun-19 12:56 AM] Shush#9067
No that isnt fun


[24-Jun-19 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe it won't and there will be a few humans remaining, sure, but i don't think life for them will be any good


[24-Jun-19 12:56 AM] Shush#9067
Again, we went through an ice age with primitive technology


[24-Jun-19 12:56 AM] Shush#9067
We can survive climate change as it stands


[24-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
and again, ice age is easier to live through than a runaway greenhouse effect


[24-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Shush#9067
That is true


[24-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
and would actually be somewhat good for humanity, lower temperatures would just require eating more food basically


[24-Jun-19 12:57 AM] Shush#9067
Increased levels of CO² will also cause expanded growth of plant matter and also phyto-planckton


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
except humans are cutting down all the vegetation that would help to mitigate it


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Shush#9067
Which over the extremely long term will normalise CO²


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Shush#9067
Its mostly phyto planckton that do the CO² sequestering


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
acidification of the oceans


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
is killing phytoplankton


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the ocean is acidfiying


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
yes that


[24-Jun-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
something you forgot


[24-Jun-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
CO2 + H2O <--> H2CO3


[24-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Shush#9067
Hmmm


[24-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah


[24-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Shush#9067
But the equivalence is skewed towards the left


[24-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Shush#9067
Especially in turbulent and hot conditions


[24-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Shush#9067
The solubility of carbonic acid is fairly low in water.


[24-Jun-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
you know what le chatelier's principle is right


[24-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Shush#9067
I might certainly fucking hope so


[24-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Shush#9067
Im a chemist


[24-Jun-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
[CO2] increases


[24-Jun-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
[H2O] is not affected since it is liquid phase


[24-Jun-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
what happens to [H2CO3]


[24-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Shush#9067
That works all in a closed system


[24-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Shush#9067
It all goes slightly differently in a macro system like this


[24-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Shush#9067
Yes more acid is formed


[24-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Shush#9067
But theres a few sidenotes to be had


[24-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Shush#9067
Like minerl leeching, addition of water, radiation.


[24-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Shush#9067
While the acidification of the oceans is a real problem and an increasing one


[24-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Shush#9067
Its mostly a problem for animals that use shells


[24-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Shush#9067
Because it fucks with the calcium cycle


[24-Jun-19 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
mineral leaching can't neutralize the threat of dissolved CO2 because mineral deposits are mostly CaCO3


[24-Jun-19 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
which shares a common ion with H2CO3


[24-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Shush#9067
Most minerals are oxides


[24-Jun-19 01:05 AM] Shush#9067
Not carbonates


[24-Jun-19 01:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And the animals that have shells tend to be the ones propping up the ecosystem


[24-Jun-19 01:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Think it's fair to say corals are keystone species


[24-Jun-19 01:05 AM] Shush#9067
They are


[24-Jun-19 01:05 AM] Shush#9067
But they are not exceedingly relevant to co² sequestering


[24-Jun-19 01:06 AM] Shush#9067
Phytoplankton are


[24-Jun-19 01:06 AM] Shush#9067
But the ecological damage caused by sea acidification is no joke


[24-Jun-19 01:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe the CO2 will normalize in the long term


[24-Jun-19 01:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But the danger is in the short term rn


[24-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Shush#9067
It is


[24-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Shush#9067
The short term is much more menacing that the effects over 100 years


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Shush#9067
Most effects will be felt on the short term


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Shush#9067
And a decent bit of those effects are going to be felt sooner rather than later


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The issue i have with this is that governments are being rather excessively stubborn in applying measures to mitigate climate damage until new environmental technologies can be invented... a lot of governments, corporations, conglomerates, basically every big name controlling the economy around the world, are rather reluctant to adapt to new energy sources


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's hard to tell whether we will go *extinct*


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's not likely


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Shush#9067
I think humans are fine


[24-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Shush#9067
A lot of other species are fucked though


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Shush#9067
Not all extinction is bad though


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And most of these other species are species we depend upon to survive though


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Shush#9067
Humans seem to have this need to create a 100% stationary ecosystem


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like bees


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I see china making the largest strides


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but maybe they are just lying about it, I dunno


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They like it stationary because the way it is has worked


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At least that's my thought


[24-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Shush#9067
China is hard at work but they make it appear like theyre working much harder than they are


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Shush#9067
Ecosystems are in a constant state of flux


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Shush#9067
And sometimes animals go extinct


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
well, having a command economy makes it much more possible to accomplish economic goals that require immediate action


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
no, humans seem to have a sort of pathological need to be living "in nature" with its surroundings, a lot of philosophy is centered around being in balance with nature


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and the reports from inside do seem to bear it out


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's normal, but if the animals going extinct are culturally or economically relevant, we'd rather that not happen


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they care deeply about climate change


[24-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Shush#9067
Small levels of extinction is totally fine, however large extinction events (like the current one) are a problem


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
like back in ancient greece, everyone thought they were living in balance in nature


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
nature is shit


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
nature is trying to kill me


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
that's not the kind of "living in nature" I'm talking about


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At least I have the comfort of knowing anything humans do isn't going to match what the P-Tr event did


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Shush#9067
Im currently studying biology :V


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Shush#9067
Mostly as a hobby though


[24-Jun-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
talking about balancing nature with the needs of humanity


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
living alongside nature


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] Shush#9067
Humans are annoyingly paternalistic with nature at times


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: just 20 minutes a day in nature vastly reduces stress


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] Shush#9067
^


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
or so it is reported


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm sure papers exist for that


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
that sounds like another one of those bullshit studies that will be impossible to replicate in 20 years


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] Shush#9067
Oh the human extinction event will be big, but not THAT big lol


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
because we go through this every week


[24-Jun-19 01:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
One of the results of nature obsession is a lot of study


[24-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Shush#9067
Biology is grand


[24-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190404074915.htm

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Just 20 minutes of contact with nature will lower stress hormone l...
Taking at least 20 minutes out of your day to stroll or sit in a place that makes you feel in contact with nature will significantly lower your stress hormone levels. That's the finding of a study that has established for the first time the most effective dose of an urban nat...


[24-Jun-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
when I went to go get a physical screening a few weeks ago I sat in the lounge and they were still showing what I believe was a discredited study about the effects of caffeine on happiness and (!) cancer


[24-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Shush#9067
It really is a popular field of study and a worth while one


[24-Jun-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
"drink a cup a day, it's good for you"


[24-Jun-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
getting real tired of obvious nonsense


[24-Jun-19 01:14 AM] Shush#9067
Being in nature rather than a bustling city does relax people


[24-Jun-19 01:14 AM] Shush#9067
the colour green also calms people somewhat


[24-Jun-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
living in the city is stressful and I'm glad I don't live in the city right now


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biology may well be the last scientific field we fully understand


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00722/full

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Frontiers | Urban Nature Experiences Reduce Stress in the Context ...
Stress reduction through contact with nature is well established, but far less is known about the contribution of contact parameters – duration, frequency, and nature quality. This study describes the relationship between duration of a nature experience (NE), and changes in...
https://www.frontiersin.org/files/MyHome%20Article%20Library/413490/413490_Thumb_400.jpg


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
but the most stressful part about it for me was constantly being surrounded by smokers


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Shush#9067
For sure


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Shush#9067
Biology is immensely complicated


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I hate cigarette smoke


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Shush#9067
But a lot of it (for me anyhow) just seems to make sense


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I would pay people to buy vapes


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and I'm dirt poor


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
>This study describes the relationship between duration of a nature experience (NE), and changes in two physiological biomarkers of stress – salivary cortisol and alpha-amylase. It is the first study to employ long-term, repeated-measure assessment and the first evaluation wherein study participants are free to choose the time of day, duration, and the place of a NE in response to personal preference and changing daily schedules.


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Shush#9067
It might not at first but when you get to understand some reasoning. You will find that it all kinda clicks with biology


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] Shush#9067
As it might sometimes not with chemistry


[24-Jun-19 01:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
idrc if others smoke and that doesn't affect my health


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Shush#9067
Depends


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
BUT


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Secondhand smoke


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Can fuck right off


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah when you live in the city you are breathing smoke everywhere


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Shush#9067
If someone nearby is smoking, yeah that wont do you any lasting harm


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Shush#9067
But sitting in a smokers room will absolutely harm you


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
the big part was both activity and being "in contact with nature", just being in contact with nature while sitting down or whatever didn't seem to have any effect, but walking/jogging/etc did


[24-Jun-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it's

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[24-Jun-19 01:17 AM] Shush#9067
I want to complain about greenpeace


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
Because fuck greenpeace


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
(but fuck PETA especially)


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
oh boy did you fall for that reddit thread too


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
Which one?


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
I dont use reddit


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
So probably no


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bu24qg/if_we_should_blame_anyone_for_the_lack_of_action/

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25,479 votes and 3,310 comments so far on Reddit


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
But I still hate PETA and Greenpeace


[24-Jun-19 01:18 AM] Shush#9067
First sentence, YES


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Shush#9067
Fuck them and their fearmongering alarmist agenda


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Shush#9067
And their insistence on keeping pandas alive


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Shush#9067
GMOs are safe


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Shush#9067
Effective


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Shush#9067
And amazing


[24-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
DDT needed to go though, it was actually harming the environment and humans as well


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] Shush#9067
DDT was causing a loooooot of problems


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
it was running off into the oceans and getting into the fish that humans eat


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] Shush#9067
But DDT is super effective


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
not anymore


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I will agree that GMO's are safe tbh, as modified food with added resistance to pests could be useful as it'd reduce the need for pesticides


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
most of the world banned DDT


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
except subsaharan africa


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
which continued to use it for malaria control


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] Shush#9067
Hurrhurr


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's not really that effective anymore


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
mosquito populations have adapted to it


[24-Jun-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
reactionaries got triggered by a line saying that one specific strain of modified corn produced an enzyme that was harmful to people


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
one that was found out about during testing and fixed


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Shush#9067
There are cases to be made against GMOs


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Shush#9067
But its not safety


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
they basically took an unreleased prototype and used it to fearmonger


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
the case against GMOs is crop patents


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Shush#9067
It sure as fuck is not safety


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
as long as you can patent crops, you cannot have GMOs


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
full stop


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Shush#9067
I mean, but we do have GMOs


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] Shush#9067
Golden rice is a GMO


[24-Jun-19 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
GMO is just a way for companies to copyright and trademark life so they put farmers on their teet and turn them into dependents.


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Shush#9067
and it has saved hundreds of thousands of lives


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it has


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
and it is now a tool for oppressing farmers


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's why we're saying GMOs can't have patents


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
which is why it's banned in europe


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Shush#9067
I believe golden rice does not have a patent


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
(I was referencing a line in that reddit post btw, "And because they are a bunch of twats whose publicity stunts irreversibly damaged a UNESCO Heritage Site and caused the deaths of millions because of their crusade against DDT.")


[24-Jun-19 01:22 AM] Shush#9067
But im not sure


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
patents seem like a mistake after the fact


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Shush#9067
Patents can be done well


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Shush#9067
But they arent being done well


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
they were a short-term stopgap solution


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
GMOs are useful but like everything they need some sort of regulation


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Shush#9067
They need to be reduced in time


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
that were expanded in ways that it was never meant to be used in


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
GMOs don't need to be regulated


[24-Jun-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
patents need to be abolished


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
well, the worry about GMO plants being harmful to humans is real


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
it was used for fearmongering, yes


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Shush#9067
GMOs need some regulations


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
but it still needs regulation


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Shush#9067
They CAN be dangerous


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Shush#9067
Both to the eco system and humans


[24-Jun-19 01:24 AM] Shush#9067
They can supplant native crops which i a risk


[24-Jun-19 01:25 AM] Shush#9067
They can also in some cases wildly hybridize and cause problems that way.


[24-Jun-19 01:25 AM] Shush#9067
GMOs need to be treated with care


[24-Jun-19 01:25 AM] Shush#9067
But oh fuck are they amazing


[24-Jun-19 01:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah, just like anything that affects human/ecosystem health


[24-Jun-19 01:26 AM] Shush#9067
But yeah greenpeace is a shitty organisation with initially good intentions


[24-Jun-19 01:26 AM] Shush#9067
But now are just anti-science because it makes them feel good


[24-Jun-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also deface historical sites


[24-Jun-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
we had designs for nuclear reactors that basically turned uranium into a practically renewable source for how efficient they are back in the 50's, but we went with super wasteful nuclear reactors instead because they were cheaper to build and we had a shitload of uranium


[24-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Shush#9067
We still have a shitload of uranium


[24-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Shush#9067
But we also needed plutonium for booms


[24-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
those ultra efficient reactors have basically no radioactive waste either


[24-Jun-19 01:28 AM] Shush#9067
But yeah fissile materials can last us for an easy 2000 years (estimations even conservative ones put us at around 10.000 years of ifssion fuel)


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
and what waste it does have would last for centuries instead of millennia


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Shush#9067
Yep


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
unlike what we ended up going with


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
which is what people argue against


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Shush#9067
Well what they should argue against


[24-Jun-19 01:29 AM] Shush#9067
But when you even as much as mention building any kind of nuclear reactor people will protest and threaten your offices


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I suspect people see shows like chernobyl and think "nuclear is fucking dangerous as fuck"


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
Because green glowy wasteland fears


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and then get up in arms about it


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
chernobyl's reactor design was outdated when it was new


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
it was mismanaged to shit


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
There is sooooo much misinformation


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
Fukishima was extremely safe


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
of course it blew up


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
It took a looooot to cause that meltdown


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
we have actually fixed our reactors now so that it is impossible for them to explode


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
And the effects are pretty minor


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
light and heavy water reactors are incredibly dangerous, that is true


[24-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Shush#9067
Most of the waste thankfully went into the oceans


[24-Jun-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
but you don't have to use water as the coolant


[24-Jun-19 01:31 AM] Shush#9067
And with that small amount of fuel leeching into the ocean


[24-Jun-19 01:31 AM] Shush#9067
Its basically gone now


[24-Jun-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
you can just as easily use something non-volatile at fission temperatures


[24-Jun-19 01:31 AM] Shush#9067
Ye


[24-Jun-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
no, chernobyl's design was fundamentally flawed to begin with, not just old


[24-Jun-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that if they had followed procedure properly, it still wouldn't have melted down


[24-Jun-19 01:32 AM] Shush#9067
Hmh


[24-Jun-19 01:32 AM] Shush#9067
They actively did everything you are NOT supposed to do


[24-Jun-19 01:32 AM] Shush#9067
It would be the stuff of slapstick if the results werent as bad as they were


[24-Jun-19 01:33 AM] Shush#9067
They basically solved their leaking boat problem by sinking it faster


[24-Jun-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
with a molten salt reactor you can have the entire crew abandon it and it will shut down on its own in a few hours


[24-Jun-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the salt will solidify and contain the reaction


[24-Jun-19 01:33 AM] Shush#9067
Because you cant sink your boat if it already sunk


[24-Jun-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
even if you didn't do anything you were supposed to do it would still be safe


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] Shush#9067
Most millenials seem in favour of nuclear power


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
this just in, many millenials also in favor of communism


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
what is the world coming to


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
damn commies


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] Shush#9067
I mean


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] Shush#9067
Minors always tend to be more left


[24-Jun-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
fox news will save us


[24-Jun-19 01:36 AM] Shush#9067
Or I should say the young instead of minors


[24-Jun-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
rush limbaugh is not fat!


[24-Jun-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
he's just big boned


[24-Jun-19 01:36 AM] Shush#9067
Thicc boned*


[24-Jun-19 01:36 AM] Shush#9067
Get with the times


[24-Jun-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
limbaugh actually lost a lot of weight when he got a girlfriend


[24-Jun-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
he married her back in 2010


[24-Jun-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
he's been divorced 3 times, this is his longest lasting marriage so far


[24-Jun-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-pete-buttigieg-mayor-police-shooting-black-voters-20190624-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-pete-buttigieg-mayor-police-shooting-black-voters-20190624-story.html
Black residents of South Bend unload on Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Mayor Pete Buttigieg's charmed presidential run is in crisis after a fatal police shooting in South Bend, Ind., brings issues with black voters to the fore.
https://www.latimes.com/resizer/DU45L113rJsMNW3OUDo7aJo1b6c=/1200x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/RZ4POMKEOFHMHPURHIOXGZBLII.jpg


[24-Jun-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
>But now the shooting has highlighted the racial tension right on Buttigieg’s home turf, revealing for a national audience the pain and resentment that has long festered among South Bend’s black residents.


[24-Jun-19 02:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Buttigieg


[24-Jun-19 02:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>BUTTigieg


[24-Jun-19 02:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
why hasn't that town changed it's name


[24-Jun-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr he's proven really bad at addressing racial inequality in his own, much smaller area of influence


[24-Jun-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
why should he be trusted with the entire nation?


[24-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
he's basically just gay younger biden


[24-Jun-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
(beto is younger biden)


[24-Jun-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto is really tuff on crime btw


[24-Jun-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreso than Ted Cruz


[24-Jun-19 02:52 AM] Shush#9067
tuff puppy


[24-Jun-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/89a12194b481401ba290d34ec572b984

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https://apnews.com/89a12194b481401ba290d34ec572b984
In Mideast, Pompeo seeks a global coalition against Iran
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday he wants to build a global coalition against Iran during urgent consultations in the Middle East, following a week of crisis that saw...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/5ba6fef40e6a44d9be60c713d6013f04/3000.jpeg


[24-Jun-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
it'll end up just being saudi arabia tbh


[24-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-sestak-running-for-president-former-congressman-and-3-star-admiral-joins-2020-democratic-presidential-race/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-sestak-running-for-president-former-congressman-and-3-star-admiral-joins-2020-democratic-presidential-race/
Joe Sestak, former congressman and 3-star admiral, joins 2020 pres...
Sestak, who made his announcement in a video​ posted to his campaign website, is a Vietnam War veteran who also served in Iraq and Afghanistan
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/06/23/3c38946f-ae1d-4c57-83c8-17cdfd3a656d/thumbnail/1200x630g2/04120cd27986f8db70a736e00f733b2b/ap-275249293400.jpg


[24-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
literally who


[24-Jun-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
>Former Pennsylvania congressman and retired three-star admiral Joe Sestak announced Sunday he is running for president, becoming the 25th candidate to seek the Democratic nomination. Sestak, a Vietnam War veteran who also served in Iraq and Afghanistan, made his announcement in a video posted to his campaign website.


[24-Jun-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
>Sestak joins a historically crowded field of Democrats looking to take on President Trump in 2020. In a recent CBS News/YouGov poll of registered Democrats in early primary states, 71% said there are too many choices.


[24-Jun-19 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
WHY


[24-Jun-19 03:19 AM] Shush#9067
At this rate


[24-Jun-19 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also yeah this guy's a very poor fit


[24-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Shush#9067
Are we going to get to 100 democratic suitors for the position


[24-Jun-19 03:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sounds like 2016 on the Rep side, gonna be honest


[24-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Shush#9067
Because what better way to win your election than to needlessly split your voter base


[24-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Shush#9067
I full on expect trump to win


[24-Jun-19 03:20 AM] Shush#9067
The dems are super fragmented


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Shush#9067
and are having to deal with a far left contingent within


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
too bad bernie can't make a surprise win like trump did in the primaries


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Shush#9067
Bernie got shot dead by the DNC because they wanted to shill hillary


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Shush#9067
And Hillary was a horrible pick


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Shush#9067
Super establishment


[24-Jun-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
the DNC basically just gives all the superdelegates to whichever establishment candidate they want to win


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
the RNC at least has a democratic primary process


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Shush#9067
With how things look now, I have little hope for a blue 2020


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] ISamusI#5581
Blue?


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] Shush#9067
Democrat


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] ISamusI#5581
Ah


[24-Jun-19 03:22 AM] ISamusI#5581
I just want peace.


[24-Jun-19 03:23 AM] Shush#9067
The far left contingent within the DNC is not going to vote for a white man, they want a woman or a black man/woman


[24-Jun-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
granted, bernie wouldn't have won versus hillary even if the DNC didn't have the superdelegate system


[24-Jun-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
in 2016


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Are people as loyal to Trump now as they were in 2016


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
what? there's no far left contingent in the DNC


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
the DNC is the establishment


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
same with the RNC


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well, at least his 2016 voters


[24-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Shush#9067
Or I should say within the democratic voting demographic


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Shush#9067
The American far left isnt likely to vote for biden who I expect is going to get the nomination


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
comparing US politics to the rest of the world, the DNC is center-right, and the RNC is right


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Shush#9067
Basically


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Shush#9067
Also liberals are considered leftish in the US while liberals means centre right anywhere else


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
for reference, social democracy is considered "far left" in the US


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Shush#9067
So theres that bit of weirdness


[24-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Shush#9067
Hmh


[24-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Shush#9067
The RNC really has no counterpart in the rest of the world


[24-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
social democracy is often called communist in the US


[24-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
no, there's counterparts


[24-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
they're usually considered fringe right groups though


[24-Jun-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
like in spain recently


[24-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Shush#9067
Sure but they arent a direct fit. But they come closest


[24-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Shush#9067
I suppose you can compare the RNC to like AfD in Germany and PVV in The Netherlands or the Brexit party in the UK


[24-Jun-19 03:28 AM] Shush#9067
But its a bit of a wonky fit for each of them


[24-Jun-19 03:29 AM] Shush#9067
It confuses a lot of Americans and Europeans when they hear that in the EU libs are considered centre right and that in the US they are considered centre left


[24-Jun-19 03:29 AM] Shush#9067
But thats because the whole axes of left right in the US is a few steps to the right


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] ISamusI#5581
Wait we were in the pol chat?


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] Shush#9067
We are now


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] ISamusI#5581
Ngl I thought we went into the general


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] Shush#9067
We were a bit ago


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] ISamusI#5581
Ah


[24-Jun-19 03:30 AM] Shush#9067
But we moved here when Vadim had a bit of a 'special' moment


[24-Jun-19 03:31 AM] ISamusI#5581
Only four messages?


[24-Jun-19 03:32 AM] Shush#9067
Has Vadim been barred from this channel orsmt?


[24-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
you can definitely see the conservative roots of the democratic party when you see biden defending his work with pro-segregation senators in the 70's


[24-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
basically, we finally reached the point where biden is no longer willing to pretend to be leftist


[24-Jun-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
and it's apparently noticeably damaged his momentum in the polls


[24-Jun-19 03:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
As it does when people realize you're not on their side


[24-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Shush#9067
I dont see any candidates with real potential/star power on the dems rn though


[24-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Shush#9067
Yang isnt going to make it


[24-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Shush#9067
Hes not establishment


[24-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Shush#9067
Bernie lost once and probably will lose again


[24-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Shush#9067
And I just dont think Hillary 2.0 is possible


[24-Jun-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The DNC see biden as Hillary 2.0 but he doesnt have the "I'm a woman" thing going for him and his conservative cracks are begining to show


[24-Jun-19 03:43 AM] Shush#9067
The Hillary campaign going so hard 'Look at me I have a vagina' tactic kinda backfired


[24-Jun-19 03:43 AM] Shush#9067
Also she is as relatable as the Zucc-o-tron 9000


[24-Jun-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It really did, it basically alienated any new voters, and only cemented her with old voters who would have supported her anyway


[24-Jun-19 03:43 AM] Shush#9067
And reaaaaally establishment


[24-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Shush#9067
Who would have guessed that platforming on what is between your legs isnt a good strat


[24-Jun-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when she brought on a speaker to tell all women that if they didnt vote for her, they;d go to hell


[24-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Shush#9067
Pokémon go to the polls ppl


[24-Jun-19 03:44 AM] ISamusI#5581
Pfffff, she did *not* xD.


[24-Jun-19 03:44 AM] ISamusI#5581
(Did she really)?


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she did


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Shush#9067
Clip


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Shush#9067
I wanna see that


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] ISamusI#5581
Please do


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] ISamusI#5581
I also want to


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll find it


[24-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Shush#9067
Sweet


[24-Jun-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msMhG_FUnXE it was madeline albright

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msMhG_FUnXE
USA: "Special place in hell" for women who don't help Clinton - Ma...
Former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright introduced Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on Saturda...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/msMhG_FUnXE/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Jun-19 03:48 AM] ISamusI#5581
Eh. Weird but not as blatantly hilarious as I thought. Seemed more attempting-to-relate.


[24-Jun-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i remembered it being longer, i was wrong


[24-Jun-19 03:49 AM] Shush#9067
I love how the crowd just fucking lost it


[24-Jun-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that statement gained a lot of controversey int he news at the time


[24-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah, no shit.


[24-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Shush#9067
If the DNC dont come up with a good candidate real fast this might have been a done deal for trump


[24-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Shush#9067
Considering he has the incumbent factor and the economy is doing well


[24-Jun-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few of the democratic candidates are running likely specifically to bury sanders under a mountain of candidates


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Shush#9067
That and to get their name out


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Shush#9067
so they can sell books or appear as speakers


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] ISamusI#5581
Tired of fakers. What do they even want with America?


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of them are as unlikeable as Clinton


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money


[24-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Shush#9067
None of them are as offputting as the Hilldog no


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any of them can win swing voters


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Shush#9067
But none of them have the gravitas or the star power so they basically start with a handicap


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary also used her charity to fund her campaign which was not really allowed either


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bernie and biden can pull it off tbh


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
or really just about anyone


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Shush#9067
Bernie isnt establishment enough


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick Bernie and Biden


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What about Warren?


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie and biden have their own debate this thursday i think


[24-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Shush#9067
Biden is going to get disavowed by the American left


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is a slightly more likeable Clinton


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus she likes light beer


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Shush#9067
Trump has a lot going for him


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's instantly suspicious


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest just get shoved into a mass debate on wednesday


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Shush#9067
He isnt on the backfoot like last time


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
that doesn't really matter, the left and the center would vote for just about anyone who isn't donal trump


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American left often prefers to fight over morality than you know, fucking win


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Shush#9067
Thats true


[24-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Shush#9067
But will they vote for the same person


[24-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Shush#9067
That is kind of important


[24-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Shush#9067
And I dont think they will vote for the same person


[24-Jun-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There *will* be a winnowing


[24-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
hoenstly if biden is indeed con leaning like everyone says he is he could get more center right to jump from trump to him


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He could get Ohio


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Shush#9067
Biden is really their only chance


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but then again bernie just might get everyone fired up to just steam roll trump out


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'll be suspicious if we see a concerted effort from a ton of random people trying to keep as many democratic candidates in the running until the last possible second


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
tbh either could win


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not gonna happen


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
or just about anyone


[24-Jun-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If I were trying to divide and conquer, that's how I'd do it


[24-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
left, center, center right would uninte around anyone who's not trump


[24-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Shush#9067
Trump is pretty high on the perception polls right now


[24-Jun-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just look at how for seemingly no reason, the green party candidate picked up a bigger percentage of the vote than usual last election


[24-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Shush#9067
You seem to understimate how popular trump is currently


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Shush#9067
He has a pretty high approval rate


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's going to be interference. And it's going to focus on keeping the left divided


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
not really


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
53% dissaprove


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Focusing on his base may not help


[24-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He won by like 80k votes in swing states


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
lower then oboma in his first therm


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Shush#9067
The left is going to keep divided even without foreign interfearrence


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the left and right are fracturing into parts, the problem is, in a two party system it just makes things more difficult instead of leading to change


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] ISamusI#5581
So over the two, was it worth getting trump as compared to Hilary?


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
lower then bush jr


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What's going on is that to the right, Trump is a success story


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, just look at how many of his campaign promises he's actually delivered on


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Shush#9067
Trump is popular with his base


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Shush#9067
And that matters


[24-Jun-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*INCLUDING* getting Mexico to pay for part of the wall project


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
they didn't tho


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Shush#9067
And I think Trump might have preformed better than Hillary would have


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the message right-wing media is sending, though


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Shush#9067
Hillary is a warhawk


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's all about the media


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you can control perception, you control the population


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
not really


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Shush#9067
The American left is fracturing super fast right now


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Shush#9067
And the right is also fracturing but much slower


[24-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
internet kinda broke tradinshal media


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Shush#9067
Because they arent as discontent


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
it's all echo chambers now


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, well, we're not talking about a group of people who stay informed through anything other than echo chambers


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Shush#9067
Its not all echochambers


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
thats what large portions of his base is on tho


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the real kicker to keeping them in the bubble is to dismantle their ability to listen to other sources


[24-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Shush#9067
There is plenty of people who seek out info


[24-Jun-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, you can present these people the truth, and it'll have a backfire effect


[24-Jun-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not just because it's their "nature," because the backfire effect applies to everyone, but because they've been specifically trained not to believe other sources


[24-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats where carsimatic echo chamber leaders come in


[24-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
plenty of them on yt


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
really Kojima called all this shit out in mgs2


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I work with a kid who's anti-vax and when people question her on her beliefs, which is pretty much any time she opens her mouth on the subject, her response is something like "well, science gets things wrong sometimes"


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Shush#9067
You also have the inellectual dark web that is kinda growing


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw

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Max Derrat
https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw
Selection for Societal Sanity
Special thanks to Kenspiracy and MetalGearSortOf for reviewing my script for me; Hannah and Scott from Honey Badger Radio for offering constructive criticism...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/67WWrtWvxFw/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anti vax also comes from an echo chamber


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
so does flat earth


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Shush#9067
Flat earth is more of a meme than a reality


[24-Jun-19 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Flat earth is a prank that went too far, yeah


[24-Jun-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause now there are true believers


[24-Jun-19 04:05 AM] Shush#9067
Ithink there is more people that pretend to be flat earth than that are actually flat earth


[24-Jun-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is how scientology started


[24-Jun-19 04:05 AM] Shush#9067
The one and true religion©


[24-Jun-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBK5aKOr2Fw

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cultofalexjones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBK5aKOr2Fw
How to Start A Cult
How to guide. We are looking for franchisees.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EBK5aKOr2Fw/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Jun-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ignore the uploader, this video's been floating around for a long time


[24-Jun-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a satire piece that's eerily accurate


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Shush#9067
Omg that name lmao


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] ISamusI#5581
Heh


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Shush#9067
I didnt even notice


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Shush#9067
Alex jones is a good meme tho


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
the frogs are gay cult


[24-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Shush#9067
For all that Alex Jones is and isnt, he is good entertainment


[24-Jun-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyhow, if you watch this video, not only will you never be able to get that song out of your head, you'll also see the mechanisms of running a cult at play in a lot of political extremist (and mainstream-right) media


[24-Jun-19 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause it really isn't any different from any other form of propaganda


[24-Jun-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
well that's kind of dumb, archive.fo twitter links with media censored as "sensitive materials" and requires you to click a button to view it don't actually let you click the button to view the image


[24-Jun-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/7dGF1

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https://archive.fo/7dGF1
Evul on Twitter: "#Nessa #pokemon I know I know, color isnt right....
archived 23 Jun 2019 01:21:53 UTC
https://archive.fo/7dGF1/027da5a58ab24b3d6e387c934c02340ff4d5791d/scr.png


[24-Jun-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
someone archived that twitter post of the dude who drew nessa as a chimp


[24-Jun-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
but you can't actually view the image in the archive


[24-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/thewaveunder/status/1142390743690088448

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Owen (@thewaveunder)
https://twitter.com/thewaveunder/status/1142390743690088448
@Animeology_ @sphinxy246 @Evulart @Calvin35486086 Dumbass
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9qWUzmXoAA1y_C.jpg:large
Twitter


[24-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
apparently that "evul" artist dude has a history of posting racist and white supremacist junk on his discord


[24-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9w9FjGWwAISoLp.jpg:orig

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9w9FjGWwAISoLp.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9w9FjGWwAISoLp.jpg:orig


[24-Jun-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
I can't read anything in that image though


[24-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Shush#9067
So its an artist with a bit of an off colour sense of humour


[24-Jun-19 04:40 AM] Shush#9067
I dont see the need for this large of an outrage mod on his ass


[24-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
drawing a black person as a chimpanzee is one of the original and most racist ways to dehumanize them


[24-Jun-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd say that was more than "a bit" yeah


[24-Jun-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's full-bore racism


[24-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Shush#9067
Still, its a bit harsh of a treatment


[24-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I must note


[24-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakk people do not resemble non-human apes in any way aside of dark coloration with gorillas.


[24-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah? does that really matter though?


[24-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when people start making the "looks like a chimp joke"


[24-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're not arriving at that because someone actually looks that way


[24-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah that pretty obvious its a common slur


[24-Jun-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Short of some very strange outside influence, it's from racism.


[24-Jun-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially given the context for people drawing this pokemon trainer


[24-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
you literally can't even come anywhere near associating a black person with a non-human ape without coming off as incredibly racist in western culture


[24-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Shush#9067
Im not saying it isnt racist, mind.


[24-Jun-19 04:44 AM] Shush#9067
Im just saying the reaction is a bit beyond proportion


[24-Jun-19 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really isn't


[24-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[24-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Shush#9067
Guess we differ in viewpoint then, theres no need to go after someones livelyhood and the likes for making a racist joke.


[24-Jun-19 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is more racist than even the "happy merchant" meme


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general I'm not fond of people who attempt to pass off racism as being neutral comedy that doesn't work as comedy.


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Shush#9067
Because people have been going out and trying to get this man to lose his income


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racial jokes can be funny when they rely on stereotypes, for sure.


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Shush#9067
Its an attempt at comedy, whether or not it was funny is kind of besides the point, isnt it?


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
you can call non-blacks a chimp/ape/etc without coming off as racist because it's obvious that you're calling them dumb, but you can't do anything like that with a black person unless you want to appear as a bona fide racist, there's just too much historical racist baggage that comes with associating black people with primates


[24-Jun-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being funny is the entire point of comedy


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah, it is.


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Shush#9067
Not saying it isnt.


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I make comedy negligently using something that is unlikely to be funny and is meant to put people down


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am responsible for being an asshole in doing so.


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Shush#9067
Again its not a good joke


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Shush#9067
And yes the guys a dick


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's the thing


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Shush#9067
Im not contending any of these things


[24-Jun-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
being a dikk normally is something that you get punished for.


[24-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Shush#9067
Yes, proportionally. this is not proportional.


[24-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, racism is pretty shitty.


[24-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Shush#9067
In this chatroom, sure it is, but have you seen his twitter thread?


[24-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism generally involves bullying minorities to the point they want to kill themselves and internalize the prejudice.


[24-Jun-19 04:48 AM] Shush#9067
People are trying their hardest to ruin this man's life over it, I dont think that would be called proportional.


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
really what were you expecting


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Shush#9067
Again different argument


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The proportional response to someone attempting to further that would be to put them in jail for a few months.


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And/or fire them.


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Shush#9067
But yeah he could have expected it


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Shush#9067
Jail, for a racist joke?


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Shush#9067
Thats a bit extreme


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that it's impossible to see this guy as having an "off-color sense of humor" in modern culture


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice in our society is a bit extreme.


[24-Jun-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
the simplest explanation is usually the most correct


[24-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Shush#9067
Prejudice isnt illegal though. Nor should it be.


[24-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It definitely should be in terms of business operation, but one political party wants to change that.


[24-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Shush#9067
In the realm of business sure, and it is.


[24-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, losing your job is kinda to be expected


[24-Jun-19 04:50 AM] Shush#9067
But as in making jokes or making disparaging comments, that should not be illegal.


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Shush#9067
It is after all a expression of opinion.


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
he's a patreon porn artist, unless it's patreon-hosted, he likely won't be kicked off of it


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course employer/worker relationships are all sorts of screwy.


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Shush#9067
He might get banned from it, I dont expect he will.But he might.


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Banned from twitter? It might be against their policies...


[24-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Shush#9067
Not twitter, patreon.


[24-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Shush#9067
He might get nuked off twitter, I doubt he really cares.


[24-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
this is his patreon https://www.patreon.com/evulchibi

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https://www.patreon.com/evulchibi
Evulchibi is creating Illustrations  | Patreon
Become a patron of Evulchibi today:
            Read 192 posts by Evulchibi and get access to exclusive
            content and experiences on the world’s largest membership
            platform for artists and creators.
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[24-Jun-19 04:52 AM] Shush#9067
Yes it is.


[24-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Shush#9067
Hes pretty small fish


[24-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Shush#9067
This whole outrage might actually get him quite some new followers


[24-Jun-19 04:53 AM] Shush#9067
I sure hadnt ever heard of him before.


[24-Jun-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think patreon cares.


[24-Jun-19 04:54 AM] Shush#9067
Oh im sure he cares about the exposure


[24-Jun-19 04:54 AM] Shush#9067
Im sure he doesnt care about getting nuked off twitter


[24-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Might be why he did it.


[24-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Shush#9067
Would not be surprised


[24-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Shush#9067
Any publicity is good publicity


[24-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
twitter is likely one of the main ways he gets his art out to begin with, apparently he has a hentai-foundry account too


[24-Jun-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
and he's not big enough to not get banned on twitter for violating its policies


[24-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
it's an ultra risky move on his part if it was actually intended to just generate publicity


[24-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Shush#9067
If he lays low for a month or two after being banned and sets up shop under a different name hell be fine I bet


[24-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
he'd have to completely abandon his patreon though


[24-Jun-19 04:58 AM] Shush#9067
The outrage mob doesnt have a great longterm memory


[24-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
except that's not what's been happening the past few years


[24-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
its memory has been getting better


[24-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
because if it doesn't, nothing will change


[24-Jun-19 04:59 AM] Shush#9067
What needs to change though, this dude is likely to already be banned from his places as is current


[24-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Shush#9067
Nothing is on that guy's side to begin with


[24-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm not seeing why anything should be on his side


[24-Jun-19 05:00 AM] Shush#9067
So, what exactly should change?


[24-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
racists should be shunned and pushed out of mainstream society


[24-Jun-19 05:01 AM] Shush#9067
They are


[24-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Shush#9067
Should they not instead be engaged and asked as to why they hold those beliefs instead. Rather than making the entire subject verboten


[24-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Shush#9067
Shunning has never solved a problem, engaging with it and understanding it has.


[24-Jun-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
your logic is not making any sense, first you say he just has "off-colour humor", now you're saying we should find a center ground with racism


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Shush#9067
Im not saying that.


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Shush#9067
He does have off colour humour, but we shouldnt be shunning people we should be understanding their notions before we can deconstruct them.


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
if you see a guy run someone down with a knife and stab them to death, you don't politely ask him why he did it


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Shush#9067
You cant fight which you dont understand.


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Shush#9067
No but the court sure fucking does.


[24-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Shush#9067
And this is not a legal crime, its a social one.


[24-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Shush#9067
And he has been judged by the court of public opinion.


[24-Jun-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
shunning actually does solve problems, I'm not sure what makes you think it doesn't


[24-Jun-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
you start screaming for help to restrain the murdering psychopath


[24-Jun-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they may not be the solutions you were looking for


[24-Jun-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
but it does indeed work


[24-Jun-19 05:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to be fair, he's been arguing a center ground from the beginning of this


[24-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Shush#9067
And what do you think is the solution I am looking for.


[24-Jun-19 05:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it still doesn't make the position any more tenable


[24-Jun-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah I'm just gonna mark this one off as r/enlightenedcentrism


[24-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Shush#9067
fighting hate with hate only doubles the amount of hate, understanding gets you further and allows you to work on a better future together.


[24-Jun-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause really, if this is the middle ground for you, I'd hate to ask where the line is actually drawn


[24-Jun-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
showing racists the door isn't fighting hate with hate, it's fighting hate with consequences


[24-Jun-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
social democracy is different from third way and centrism, third way/centrism is actually an opponent to social democracy, the liberals getting pushed out by the social democrats in norway because the liberals can't run the social democracy properly are direct evidence of this


[24-Jun-19 05:06 AM] Shush#9067
My lines are to calls to violence and calls to action.


[24-Jun-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I meant with racism


[24-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah


[24-Jun-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause you can absolutely ruin someone's life without doing either of those two things


[24-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Shush#9067
Thats it. Calls to action and calls to violence.


[24-Jun-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so for you to turn around and get upset about people ruining *this* guy's life...it's a little lopsided, y'know?


[24-Jun-19 05:07 AM] Shush#9067
Aside from lies and slander and of course discrimination in the workplace etc.


[24-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
I came up with this line the last time a neo-nazi troll came in here and tried to equate being called out for being a racist to being rounded up and killed in a concentration camp, but ostracization is not the same as extermination


[24-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Shush#9067
Its free speech, should he face consequences, sure. But to what end.


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
he should be shunned


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Shush#9067
I'm not a neo nazi troll however, I just differ on the action to be taken.


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the correct response


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Shush#9067
Not to me.


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Shush#9067
I believe in rehabilitation rather than punnitive justice.


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Shush#9067
And shunning someone does nothing to rehabilitate anyone


[24-Jun-19 05:09 AM] Shush#9067
It just hides the problem to come back another day


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In the bigger picture, it reinforces the social mores for everyone else, too


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Shush#9067
You should support bad behaviour, but telling people off without understanding their reasoning isnt goin go help prevent things in the future.


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the same way that leaving that alone reinforces the idea that it's okay


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or worse, signal boosting it


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Shush#9067
Again, I have not said he should receive no consequences.


[24-Jun-19 05:11 AM] Shush#9067
He should be banned off twitter for breaking the TOS


[24-Jun-19 05:12 AM] Shush#9067
But I dont think he deserves to get his livelihood taken away


[24-Jun-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If his livelihood is mostly driven by being on twitter, as you say, there's some logic that's being skipped over


[24-Jun-19 05:13 AM] Shush#9067
Well in the most simple view his patreon is the source. I dont think he should be banned off patreon unless the picture was uploaded to patreon


[24-Jun-19 05:14 AM] Shush#9067
I think banning him from twitter is punishment enough as it is, as it loses him one of his primary vectors for gathering followers to his art.


[24-Jun-19 05:14 AM] Shush#9067
Which means there already is an economic impact.


[24-Jun-19 05:14 AM] Shush#9067
Getting him also banned from patreon (assuming it wasnt posted there) is too far.


[24-Jun-19 05:16 AM] Shush#9067
So he has already paid a social price in that his brand has gotten a rather black smear on it from this picture, he is likely about to be banned from twitter. I think that isnt freedom from consequences, is it?


[24-Jun-19 05:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is it likely to stop him?


[24-Jun-19 05:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The answer is no. So no.


[24-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Shush#9067
I think it is, but only time will tell.


[24-Jun-19 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember the guy who burned a bunch of cheerios?


[24-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Shush#9067
And what if nothing stops him, then what.


[24-Jun-19 05:17 AM] Shush#9067
No?


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Kind of a similar "his life got ruined but it's completely his own fault" situation


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Shush#9067
I dont tend to keep up with twitter because I cant be assed dealing with all the asinine shit that goes on there.


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Shush#9067
I dont actually have a twitter account to begin with


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cheerios?


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Shush#9067
Whats bad about burning cornflakes though


[24-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Shush#9067
Im completely at a loss


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this wasn't twitter. This was some guy actually went to the headquarters of General Mills and burned a bowl of cheerios because they supported gay marriage


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this was long enough ago that the guy has since died


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Shush#9067
I mean its a pretty weird form of protest.


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Shush#9067
But more power to him I suppose.


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he accidentally set the lawn on fire in the process


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Shush#9067
Lmao


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] Shush#9067
fucking wow


[24-Jun-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His son was videotaping it. It's pretty cringe


[24-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Shush#9067
Granpa does protest


[24-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Shush#9067
Gets banged up for destruction of property


[24-Jun-19 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>In a Facebook tribute, one of Leisner’s nephews--a missionary in Costa Rica--wrote in Spanish that Leisner was as “bold as a lion of God,” though some would remember him as “a flaming Elijah.”  Unfortunately, an English translation on the Facebook page mangled part of the tribute. “Please pray for the family of Mike to feel the spirit of God as dildo in this time of a loss,” the Bing translation notes.


[24-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Shush#9067
gg no re


[24-Jun-19 05:20 AM] Shush#9067
This sounds like a pretty good time so far


[24-Jun-19 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6wWdxG3Ago

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paprinvision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6wWdxG3Ago
Man Sets Cereal On Fire At General Mills Headquarters
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k6wWdxG3Ago/hqdefault.jpg


[24-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Shush#9067
I think him being a meme is a pretty good punishment tbh


[24-Jun-19 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
after this went viral, this guy lost his job


[24-Jun-19 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's why I brought this up


[24-Jun-19 05:22 AM] Shush#9067
I mean, I get why he got fired. its a bad look.


[24-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Shush#9067
But I dont think he was fired because people actually went out of their way to get him fired.


[24-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Shush#9067
I might be wrong


[24-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Shush#9067
Cheerios are pretty fucking flammable


[24-Jun-19 05:23 AM] Shush#9067
God damn


[24-Jun-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>Greater Midwest yesterday began emailing the following statement to folks leaving complaints on the company's contact page:


[24-Jun-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
`Thank you for your comment. Greater Midwest Properties does not condone or support the actions of our independent contractors. Also, Greater Midwest Properties does not support the alleged destruction of property. Therefore, the agent's license will be returned to the Minnesota Department of Commerce. Greater Midwest Properties has no involvement in this incident and it is unrelated to us serving our clients in a professional manner. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. - Greater Midwest Properties.`


[24-Jun-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was a real estate broker, btw


[24-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Shush#9067
The fact that he got fired is fine, that is to the company to decide that they want to distance themselves from him.


[24-Jun-19 05:24 AM] Shush#9067
Thats all groovy.


[24-Jun-19 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you really think they would've fired him if people hadn't complained, though?


[24-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Shush#9067
But if people would have gone out en-masse to get him fired. Thats not okay. I find anyway. Theyre welcome to do it, but I dont agree to it.


[24-Jun-19 05:25 AM] Shush#9067
I mean yeah, if the meme went viral and they saw it. Its possible


[24-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Shush#9067
And if one person or even two do it thats not a problem, what I mainly have a problem with is people egging others on to do it as well. If you want to complain, then send a complain. No need to signal boost


[24-Jun-19 05:26 AM] Shush#9067
But do I think he should have been fired for what he did personally, no, not really.


[24-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Shush#9067
I think the humiliation is enough of a punishment.


[24-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's not when the people have no shame


[24-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
humiliation does literally nothing against people who refuse to recognize it


[24-Jun-19 05:27 AM] Shush#9067
Again we differ in opinion there.


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Shush#9067
And he didnt do anything wrong to begin with, aside from the torching of the lawn.


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and trespassing


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Shush#9067
Okay, fair.


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Shush#9067
But the nature of the protest in itself isnt really anything I take much issue with, I dont agree with it. But its like whatever.


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Shush#9067
I dont really care about some guy not liking them gay folk


[24-Jun-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
basically all of the unwritten traditions in both congress and the white house have been thrown out over the past two years


[24-Jun-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
traditions that have stood since the founding of the country, in some instances


[24-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
they've been slowly eroding over the past decade anyway, but ever since trump was inaugurated, the erosion has increased exponentially


[24-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Shush#9067
And thats not good.


[24-Jun-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
and it's mainly because trump has no shame, and he's projecting that shamelessness onto the rest of the party


[24-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Shush#9067
Perhaps his successor will one again hold themselves to the past norms


[24-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
no


[24-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Shush#9067
And I have no doubt he works as an emboldening force.


[24-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
once traditions are broken, you have to replace them with actual laws


[24-Jun-19 05:30 AM] Shush#9067
But I dont see anything wrong with it, if it isnt illegal it may be scummy but I dont really see a reason to stop him.


[24-Jun-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
and that would likely require a constitutional amendment to make concrete enough that the next time things start getting bad again that the party in power can't just throw them out again


[24-Jun-19 05:31 AM] Shush#9067
If that need be, so be it.


[24-Jun-19 05:32 AM] Shush#9067
I also dont know which specific tradtions you are talking about, I dont tend to keep up with trump that much. I moreso follow the highlights.


[24-Jun-19 05:32 AM] Shush#9067
He's not my president, I do like to comment on stuff if he does something particularly outlandish or special.


[24-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Shush#9067
You can say what you want about Trump, but he sure as fuck is a character and a half.


[24-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, the ERA


[24-Jun-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally all it does is make the 14th amendment clearly cover sex


[24-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
because MULTIPLE JUDGES think it doesn't, because they ignore basic logic.


[24-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of stuff that used to require 60 votes or an outright supermajority were just traditional rules in congress


[24-Jun-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
the "nuclear option" that people go on about involves bypassing that 60 vote or supermajority rule for just the legal simple majority requirement


[24-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
supermajority is basically a thing because in a two-party system, it's very easy to switch everything every time parties change otherwise.


[24-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
what's ERA?


[24-Jun-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
oh, equal rights amendment?


[24-Jun-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[24-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federalist society judges will literally tell you that since people in the 19th century didn't realize the implications of the 14th amendment due to intense cultural norms, that therefore its implications should be ignored today.


[24-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that half a century of jurisprudence is wrong.


[24-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically want to undo all progress on getting closer to living up to our nation's founding principles.


[24-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
I don't fucking get people who can find any little tiny biological or cultural reason to exclude an entire group from being human entirely


[24-Jun-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, the thing is


[24-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they aren't trying to fight for the specific thing


[24-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're trying to fight against the very idea of equality being required by our nation's founding principles


[24-Jun-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want tradition enshrined above reason.


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
except by that definition, equality is already enshrined in the constitution


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
if the constitution is not considered a tradition, what is it then?


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thay want to ensure Christians can refuse to serve atheists etc.


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want legal traditions Crow


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want cultural traditions.


[24-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to perpetuate, forever, the traditions of English protestants.


[24-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's kinda impossible to do


[24-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but the thing is that legal threats are more powerful than any other.


[24-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it is *illegal* to practice the discrimination required of a good little Christian boy, then someone can come arrest you.


[24-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That shuts it down within a generation.


[24-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that they would rather use the legal foundation of the country to wipe their asses than allow true equality to flourish


[24-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
if there's anything in the US that could be considered tradition, it would (and should) be the constitution


[24-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to remove the legal foundation of the country.


[24-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is why they routinely make the case that modern understandings of implications of old amendments would require new amendments.


[24-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to reset the clokk on progress of actually applying principles.


[24-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, the very passage of the 14th amendment is incorrect.


[24-Jun-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it conflicted with the ideals of the founding fathers in the 1780s.


[24-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will argue not just that the 14th is misread, but that it is invalid.


[24-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the ERA is absolute kryptonite to them.


[24-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it changes the misreading of the 14th while also being clearly valid.


[24-Jun-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th is argued to be invalid based off the South being under reconstruction at the time.


[24-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, Federalist Society and the South get along quite well, for this reason.


[24-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federalist Society wants to allow racism.


[24-Jun-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South feels ripped off by a constitutional amendment against racism that was passed without it.


[24-Jun-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
losers don't get to complain


[24-Jun-19 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"losers don't get to complain" is how rampant nationalism ideals happen


[24-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, the story of America's shittiness is largely the influence of the South.


[24-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They constantly, *constantly* corrupt every single attempt at societal reform because they miss having literal slaves.


[24-Jun-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And are spiteful about it being taken away from them.


[24-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not responsible for neoliberalism, mostly, of course, but they routinely complicate matters because they almost always side against giving people rights.


[24-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
rampant nationalism begins with the idea that one group is inferior to another


[24-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which can create indirect harms, especially with workers' rights.


[24-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
I guess you could argue that seeing someone as a "winner" and someone else as a "loser" is a form of superiority


[24-Jun-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note, federalist society judges hate the idea of businesses having to cover contraceptive care.


[24-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is hugely involved with that


[24-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it feeds into a lakk of workers' rights.


[24-Jun-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it means businesses can easily fight against having to provide healthcare.


[24-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
but I'm not sure you can say that it's the start of "rampant nationalism" when the losers were literally slavers


[24-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
there is no half-measure to slavery


[24-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
either you have it or you don't


[24-Jun-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
slavery is something you can't compromise on, similar to healthcare


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Resentment triggers a strong "us vs them" mentality


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, there are half-measures to slavery.


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you familiar with serfdom, Crow?


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which leads to making up reasons to justify "us vs them"


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that's basically what it was like for blacks in the south immediately after the civil war


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and it's a very workable system


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you can hav going for centuries


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
a really shitty system, but it does lead to a stable society etc. etc.


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
and serfdom was the dominant form of oppression during the medieval ages


[24-Jun-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South isn't dumb


[24-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they know they don't hav to literally whip slaves to get what they want


[24-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
the half-measures we are currently taking with healthcare are somehow worse than healthcare for all


[24-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is superiority over blakks that provide a low working class.


[24-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
also, we still technically have slavery in the US, it's called the private prison industry


[24-Jun-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
forced to either work for pennies an hour or be subjected to the worst psychological torture known to humanity


[24-Jun-19 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention the literal human trafficking of illegal immigrants


[24-Jun-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
there's some eastern asian countries that you can literally just order a child from a list of pictures


[24-Jun-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even the legal migrant workers are treated like property...if that property were as disposable as styrofoam cups


[24-Jun-19 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in a way, that's worse than slavery, because with slavery you have to treat them like an investment


[24-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakks, mexicans, same difference to the South


[24-Jun-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're non-white, after all.


[24-Jun-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
there's been a big thing about the UAE abusing filipino women working as maids recently


[24-Jun-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if your labor force consists of whoever happens to be lined up in the walmart parking lot that day, would you care if one of them got injured?


[24-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
basically making what is middle class wages in their home countries doing menial jobs that wouldn't make them even a small fraction of the same amount of money in their homelands


[24-Jun-19 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/WIcFLO3.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/WIcFLO3.jpg


[24-Jun-19 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
this is the image that I couldn't read the text of


[24-Jun-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently evulartist has a history of posting racist and white supremacist junk on his discord


[24-Jun-19 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
holy christ, this guy is racist as fuck


[24-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
he called sweden "race traitors"


[24-Jun-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
>EvulArt 03/20/2019
>Xmas without snow is like the third Reich without the lolocauast


[24-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
>Valkyrien 03/20/2019
>Isn't modern feminizm "Man bad, woman superior" [le npc maymay face emoji]

>EvulArt 03/20/2019
>Its women who dont know their place


[24-Jun-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
sexist too


[24-Jun-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
>EvulArt 03/27/2019
>Also i wouldnt be surprised sweds are run  by nigger loving degenerates


[24-Jun-19 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i'm not surprised


[24-Jun-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whoever has the level of maturity to draw a merely presumed black character from media as a monkey, already has the propensity to agree with heinous shit


[24-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
he also apparently posted a video of some africans pulling down on a tree branch and called it the "african space program"


[24-Jun-19 06:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[24-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
though that one in and of itself isn't racist, but with the rest of the context, it's pretty obvious he's posting it unironically


[24-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
though that one in and of itself isn't racist, but with the rest of the context, it's pretty obvious he's posting it unironically


[24-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure he's Gilardi'd already.


[24-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure he's Gilardi'd already.


[24-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
"Gilardi'd"?


[24-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Max Gilardi, aka guy who made the .mov series almost got a Nick series of his own but they found out all of his racist shit/he's very hard to work with so he's basically blackballed from ever working in professional animation


[24-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's both casually racist and a jerk to work with


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
oh, hotdiggedydemon


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, heard about that


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't be John K now


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
John K was a huge dick no one liked way before people found out he was a sexual abuser


[24-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/ocasio-cortez-steve-king-concentration-camp-1377513

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/ocasio-cortez-steve-king-concentration-camp-1377513
Ocasio-Cortez and Steve King trade jabs over 'concentration camps'...
“The last time you went on this trip it was reported that you also met w/ fringe Austrian neo-Nazi groups to talk shop,” she tweeted.
https://static.politico.com/63/ff/74b1996b400fa91dfc3519f24e33/190623-aoc-ap-773.jpg


[24-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
ocasio-cortez looks so done in that image lol


[24-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
>“Mr. King, the Republican Party literally stripped you of your Congressional committee assignments because you were too racist even for them,” she wrote on Twitter. “My Jewish constituents have made clear to me that they proudly stand w/ caged children who are starved, denied sleep & sanitation” — a reference to migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border.


[24-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Getting ready for when she is senator and then president


[24-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
she will be assassinated before the CIA lets her come anywhere close to the presidency


[24-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
trump at least is a useful idiot


[24-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
she would bulldoze over any opposition to her vision


[24-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's what is needed


[24-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's the new Democratic Party


[24-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
"needed" and "wanted by the establishment" are two different things


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh. Evul is *actually* racist


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And somehow, the right-wing memes paint her as having an IQ of potato


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right wingers are fucking obsessed with her


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hilarious


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
please send pic of foot


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's the crackship no one asked for or wants


[24-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because be she is a woman, outspoken, non white, and considered attractive by many people


[24-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's basically GOP bait


[24-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why MLK was completely untouched when he was advocating for black equality, but was assassinated the moment he started turning his eyes towards true equality for all (via the working class)


[24-Jun-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
basically, a lot of fighters for equality trend towards espousing the socialist ideas of equality in the work place


[24-Jun-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
and the only reason why coops don't just bulldoze over competing corporations with how much more productive they are is because banks aren't willing to work with them nearly as freely as corporations


[24-Jun-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/23/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-doctrine-227193

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/23/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-doctrine-227193
What Would Bernie Bomb?
In 2020, Sanders is campaigning as a peace candidate. But his congressional record, and his top foreign policy adviser, suggest that events could turn him into a war president.
https://static.politico.com/67/f1/23df9bd14cfeb5d959e93772639d/190621-bernie-sanders-gty-773.jpg


[24-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
another reason why I like bernie over his leftist colleagues like gabbard is that he's not afraid of going to war over things that actually matter


[24-Jun-19 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
politico has started to get more divisive with its articles lately. Have you noticed that?


[24-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that article title is dumb as fuck


[24-Jun-19 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
I guess they wanted to go for a little bit of alliteration


[24-Jun-19 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like whatever editorial integrity they've been maintaining is starting to slip


[24-Jun-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
but it just ends up making the article sound like a smear piece on bernie


[24-Jun-19 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We don't need another buzzfeed


[24-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
but bernie's basically the epitome of "walk softly and carry a big stick" from what I've seen and heard about him


[24-Jun-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
gabbard would avoid war at all possible costs, even to the direct detriment of the united states


[24-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
but if bernie had to deal with another 9/11, he'd definitely not shy away from war as an option


[24-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
I actually kinda forgot that gabbard was running


[24-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
everything but biden, buttigieg, harris, bernie, beto, and warren can be disregarded out of hand


[24-Jun-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
and the and by far the biggest of them are biden, bernie, and warren


[24-Jun-19 07:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oddly enough, of the 4 frontrunners, I like them in opposite order of preference than their current polling


[24-Jun-19 07:18 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/trump-obliteration-iran-nuclear-weapons-pursuit-1376744

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/23/trump-obliteration-iran-nuclear-weapons-pursuit-1376744
Trump warns Iran of ’obliteration like you’ve never seen before’
But the president says he’s willing to talk to Iran.
https://static.politico.com/24/1c/793a84854d538c96ef1c53d2fd81/190623-donald-trump1-ap-773.jpg


[24-Jun-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
"obliteration like you've never seen before" would basically just be a hydrogen bomb


[24-Jun-19 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump is the polar opposite of "speak softly and carry a big stick"


[24-Jun-19 07:19 AM] Crow#5457
since a hydrogen bomb has never been used offensively before


[24-Jun-19 07:19 AM] ISamusI#5581
What's one-up of that?


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] ISamusI#5581
I'm sure by now something exists that is even larger


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
no


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you don't necessarily need bigger. You just need more


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
hydrogen bombs are currently the largest boom boom deathy time


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] ISamusI#5581
How fast is the wave?


[24-Jun-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
After all, most of the destruction Japan faced came from conventional bombing


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] ISamusI#5581
and what's its instant-size?


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] ISamusI#5581
(initial exploding radius&wave speed)


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, trump still technically has the big stick


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
he's just flailing it around wildly while screaming incoherently


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*I'm pretty sure his stick is not all that big*


[24-Jun-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
the "big stick" refers to the absurd power of the united states military


[24-Jun-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am well aware


[24-Jun-19 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
I don't even think the wisdom of king solomon himself would be enough to use the US military wisely


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Crow can you please stop killing my joke


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
pretty sure the only military more powerful than the US is China's


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
:murder:


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
caw


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
no


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
caw


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
not even close


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
china might have more manpower


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
but in terms of raw military potential, the US has the rest of the world outstripped


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
don't we have the most nukes


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but they have the best entrenching tool! FUNCTION SHOW!


[24-Jun-19 07:23 AM] Mikey#7286
oh yeah


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
the US has the advantage of


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
in a defensive war, the US could defend its mainland from the entire rest of the world combined and win


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
being disconnected from the rest of the world


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Jun-19 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
rip puerto rico


[24-Jun-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
a single US supercarrier by itself could defeat the russian military


[24-Jun-19 07:25 AM] Mikey#7286
unless Canada and mexico somehow got the firepower of eurasian countries, we're hard to touch


[24-Jun-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just don't try to sail it across the steppes in winter


[24-Jun-19 07:25 AM] Mikey#7286
and we can probably see a lot of stuff long before it hits us


[24-Jun-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
now china might be able to take out a few US supercarriers by itself, but the US has 23 of them


[24-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
the US is literally unstoppable in conventional warfare


[24-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Mikey#7286
i doubt NK Russia and China also have ballistic missiles capable of reaching this far


[24-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
china does


[24-Jun-19 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is about as irrelevant as determining which DC hero would win in a fight, the 21st century is about proxy wars


[24-Jun-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
they are capable of launching satellites into space


[24-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
if you can reach low earth orbit, you can reach the other side of the planet


[24-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
no, it isn't actually irrelevant posturing


[24-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
the US's military is actually this absurd


[24-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure I'm actually understating it


[24-Jun-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
I can't begin to describe how powerful the US military is


[24-Jun-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You don't try and fight the US military head-on


[24-Jun-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you get them mired in a situation they can't get out of


[24-Jun-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[24-Jun-19 07:28 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Jun-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
that's why al qaeda and the taliban have been so effective against the US


[24-Jun-19 07:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the military's like some kind of juggernaut boss where the winning strategy is kiting and making sure that it rams full speed into the wall


[24-Jun-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
also, proxy wars look much better domestically in the US because troops aren't marching into pointless wars


[24-Jun-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
the fact of the matter is that despite how much work has been put into fighting racism in the US, the average US citizen really doesn't care all that much when they hear about suffering caused by war in another country that the US isn't directly involved in


[24-Jun-19 07:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the real trouble will begin when someone starts a proxy war with a country we're strong allies with, like Israel


[24-Jun-19 07:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is why I think the current administration has no problem tearing treaties to shreds


[24-Jun-19 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's diplomatic strategy appears to be more similar to favors from a godfather - I do this thing for you, I ask nothing in return, but there will come a day when you must reciprocate


[24-Jun-19 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
only trouble is, that strategy only works if you plan on sticking around long enough to call in those favors


[24-Jun-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-to-propose-eliminating-all-1-6-trillion-of-student-debt-in-america

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Sanders to propose eliminating all $1.6T of student debt in US: report
Bernie Sanders, the 2020 hopeful, is set to announce on Monday a policy proposal that would eliminate all $1.6 trillion of American student debt, according to a report.
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[24-Jun-19 07:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the next administration comes in, all of those personal debts they made to the mob boss go poof. That's why treaties exist


[24-Jun-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
granted, this is a debt that no one asked for and shouldn't have existed in such an extreme form to begin with


[24-Jun-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically the universities going "hurr hurr these units are totally worth this amount of money" (just like hospitals do with hospital bills), and as much as republicans love to blame it on "socialism", it's actually lack of oversight and regulation which led to this problem to begin with


[24-Jun-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and capitalism


[24-Jun-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm looking at you, EDMC


[24-Jun-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
the only difference is that student loans are a much more immediately economically devastating problem than lack of affordable healthcare


[24-Jun-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, now we may not see the power of organizing if the debt is clear. Would have been great fun if most people with student debt all at once refused to pay the debt and we watch the banks panic. Maybe the whole infrastructure could have been rebuilt instead of federal intervention. That would have been fun.


[24-Jun-19 07:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's my hot-take.


[24-Jun-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, there's literally people fleeing the country to avoid paying student debts


[24-Jun-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
and bernie isn't president yet


[24-Jun-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
on top of the fact that there would be massive pushback from even a democrat controlled congress


[24-Jun-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
because democrats are liberals


[24-Jun-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
and liberals loooove money


[24-Jun-19 08:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well that's why I'm sayin' that y'all need to realize your epistemic potential by saying folk need to get more involved in politics than the ballet box level. That a structure needs to exist - decentralized and leaderless, Rhizomatic to reference Deleuze - that threatens to and then stops making student loan payments so that lower interest rates or lower amounts owned can be negotiated or offered. The general talk for general strike organizers is that 3% or something if a population calling it quits until conditions improve can cause economic damages. The effect may be more so if it's focused on a single institution or industry.


[24-Jun-19 08:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
The bar isn't too terribly high. The idea just needs to go out and for people to agree the situation is bad enough to just stop and clamp down on the nipples of the banks, and force Congress's hand to fix that shit.


[24-Jun-19 08:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even if Bernie would be elected and try for it you could double up mass strike with that to make it hurt all the more to not.


[24-Jun-19 08:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
The trouble would be if in the age of Twitter and short term media attention if it could sustain itself for long.


[24-Jun-19 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-48717298

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Teenage Russian 'abuse victims' face jail
Women are protesting about two cases in which teenagers face prison after acting in "self-defence".
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[24-Jun-19 04:01 PM] ononim#8141
```Hashtag #NotHerFault (#саманевиновата in Russian) was started by Darya Ageniy, who could face nine years in prison for stabbing a man with a pencil-sharpening blade in "self-defence" when he allegedly tried to rape her in June 2018.

Police have not opened a case into the allegations of sexual assault, but Ms Ageniy is facing a criminal investigation.```


[24-Jun-19 04:02 PM] ononim#8141
```Reacting to another high-profile case, about 350 people gathered in Moscow on Wednesday to protest against murder charges brought against three teenage sisters who killed their abusive father.

Krestina, Angelina and Maria Khachaturyan, who were 17, 18 and 19 when they stabbed their father to death, face up to 20 years in prison.

"The investigation established and acknowledged that the father had committed crimes against the girls, including those of a sexual nature, and that their mental health had been harmed," Angelina Khachaturyan lawyer's Alexei Parshin said in a Facebook post.

Domestic violence was partially decriminalised in Russia in 2017, while last year a survey found that 49% of women in Russia say they are at most risk of violence from family members in their home.```


[24-Jun-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2c2876df5db44c8fbdb9c4fb2c8d3d7d

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Biden: Congress should immediately make 'Dreamers' citizens
Weighing in on immigration before first Democratic debates, Joe Biden is proposing that Congress grant immediate citizenship to more than 800,000 U.S. residents who were brought to the country...
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[24-Jun-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/24/politics/beto-orourke-war-tax-veterans-plan/index.html

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Beto O'Rourke proposes 'war tax' as part of veterans' plan
Non-military households would pay a "war tax" to help cover the health care of veterans of newly-authorized wars under a plan Beto O'Rourke's campaign unveiled Monday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190415201433-02-beto-orourke-april-3-super-tease.jpg


[24-Jun-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
...


[24-Jun-19 06:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They need to make army service compulsory. /s


[24-Jun-19 06:25 PM] Shush#9067
It can be


[24-Jun-19 06:26 PM] Shush#9067
The US does have a conscription law in effect which means they can force you into service


[24-Jun-19 06:26 PM] Shush#9067
Its not too uncommon for nations to have conscription laws but have them on hold


[24-Jun-19 06:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But this is not like forced conscription like in russia


[24-Jun-19 06:27 PM] Shush#9067
Well, it is.


[24-Jun-19 06:27 PM] Shush#9067
But its not active at the moment


[24-Jun-19 06:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's the point,  active for no apparent reason.


[24-Jun-19 06:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To add insult to injury, one may not get back home in one piece after service,  even without participation in conflicts.


[24-Jun-19 06:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(School bullying up to 11)


[24-Jun-19 06:30 PM] Shush#9067
Theres a couple of EU nations that also still actively have conscription


[24-Jun-19 06:30 PM] Shush#9067
Mostly the blatic nations and Finland


[24-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Shush#9067
Because they are afraid of Russian aggression


[24-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At least they let you keep the rifle lol


[24-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Shush#9067
Im not sure they do


[24-Jun-19 06:31 PM] Shush#9067
I know the swiss let you keep the rifle


[24-Jun-19 06:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And I think there's one mone country that does that.


[24-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450032-black-democratic-lawmaker-on-buttigieg-pete-has-a-black-problem

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Black Democratic lawmaker on Buttigieg: 'Pete has a black problem'
Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio), a former chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, says that White House hopeful Pete Buttigieg has a serious problem with African American voters.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/buttigiegpete_061419gn13_lead.jpg


[24-Jun-19 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easy jokes


[25-Jun-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?objectid=11292537

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Police help short-changed sex worker
Police resolved a dispute between a sex worker and a client who refused to pay - by escorting the man to a cash machine to settle his $100 bill.
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[25-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
old, but reminder that prostitution doesn't have to be sleazy back alley work that involves drugs and infections


[25-Jun-19 12:04 AM] Shush#9067
Yeah, it can be legalised and regulated


[25-Jun-19 12:05 AM] Shush#9067
Its not a respectable profession but it is a legal one in some places


[25-Jun-19 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just decriminalize and be done. That way sex workers don't need to bother with the awkward praternalism of the state's interests, or footing the costs of licensing that would end up picked up by pimps who'll take a portion of their work's profit to cover costs and interests of costs for their liscensing.


[25-Jun-19 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's only not respectable because people say it's not respectable


[25-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, the various Socialist parties of europe are heavily against legalization


[25-Jun-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
While the conservative and liberal parties are


[25-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You see, socialists ~care~ about women, they _know_ better


[25-Jun-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Heavens forbid a woman make a choice


[25-Jun-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She could make the _wrong_ choice!


[25-Jun-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
The act of sex work is something of a lack of options for most women to have a livelihood and most accounts I've heard say they don't want to do it, but are forced to. Unless you're going to address the root causes then simple decriminalzation would do more to reduce harm than illegalization or legalization.


[25-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My state is possibly just four days away from being the only US state without an abortion clinic in half a century


[25-Jun-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're a long way from that


[25-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PSOE is such a fucking shit party


[25-Jun-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sanchez is such a god damned fucksleave


[25-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Piece of shit is so happy to suck ultra-racist genocidal dick


[25-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So long as he get the votes he needs


[25-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
Right, so I live in a place with legal prostitution


[25-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And he can pretend he's still "leftist"


[25-Jun-19 12:49 AM] Shush#9067
Its not all sunshine and rainbows. But its a lot better than in all the places where its not legal.


[25-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Shush#9067
Prostitutes here get monthly visits by the police and a councillor where they are asked about the state of affairs and if they are still doing their job willingly without any coercion. They also are subjected to mandatory STD tests.


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope he chokes on a meal of needles fished from an AIDS clinic garbage dump mixed with water from the Gangesh river


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not entirely educated about this topic'


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I assume my gut feelings are wrong


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Egomaniac fuckslime that he is


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Shush#9067
The municipal govmnt may or may not own the lease to the brothel so they can shut it down in a heartbeat if wrongdoing is found.


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
PSOE?


[25-Jun-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly it sounds like how liquor laws are monitored


[25-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
Pimps are banned


[25-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
But it still happens


[25-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except I don't think they'd have a public hearing to give a prostitution license


[25-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Shush#9067
Human trafficking still happens but is rare


[25-Jun-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish Socialist Workers Party, crow


[25-Jun-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
aka the party that is literally owned by the corporation that owns over half the spanish media companies and the music/movie copyright industry


[25-Jun-19 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, they're the center-left party in spain


[25-Jun-19 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not center or left or anything


[25-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just corrupt pieces of corporate scum slurping shit


[25-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They can pretend about their political affiliations all they want


[25-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're scum to the bone


[25-Jun-19 12:54 AM] ononim#8141
I love seeing parlamentary parties with the Socialist in them, they can be anything, from left over tankies to socdems with some sort of spine, to socdems with no spine to centrists to stright up neoliberals


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have been for two decades


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] ononim#8141
It's kind of political kinder surprise


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] ononim#8141
and like it


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] ononim#8141
US doesn't get it


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] ononim#8141
~~I know what kinder surprise can be now bought in US don't ruing th joke~~


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
PSOE was apparently originally the actual socialist party of spain


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
but over time they moved more and more right


[25-Jun-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PSOE went to absolute shit when Zapatero took over


[25-Jun-19 12:56 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah, from the party what got Stalin aid in civil war (iirc) to today what tsp says


[25-Jun-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's annoying to no end is the US believing "socialism" means "communism" *while also* believing that the left is to be associated with Nazis cause they called themselves socialist.


[25-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neglect of history


[25-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, these are people trying to scrub the Southern Strategy and the GW years from the public's mind


[25-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never forgot how much the GOP would continuously fall on swords for Dubya


[25-Jun-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, remember how everyone hated dubya


[25-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When in retrospect he was pro-immigration, and then Obama/Biden went on a remote murder-spree without even a token hint at stopping any of the ongoing wars but actually wanting to start a few more?


[25-Jun-19 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good times


[25-Jun-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's amazing how the GOP did such a fucking hard right when Obama won


[25-Jun-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, Obama and Dubya are basically indistinguishable


[25-Jun-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit, Obma could be argued to be on the right of dubya


[25-Jun-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, he was black


[25-Jun-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And suddenly, "the Tea Party"


[25-Jun-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And now most of the GOP is just spineless pieces of shit vying for the votes of the unapolagetically racist and the moronically stupid


[25-Jun-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[25-Jun-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[25-Jun-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These Mario games are getting pretty intense


[25-Jun-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now child labor and violent strikes put down by Peach hiring the Mushroom Kingdom version of the Pinkertons is canon


[25-Jun-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Sega does this


[25-Jun-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1561419912992.png

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[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
I don't understand this image


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Be glad you don't


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
Like it should imply somethign inaproprate


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
but like


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
what


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
No I am not


[25-Jun-19 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
Give me all the cursed info


[25-Jun-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bench-tails

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Bench Tails
Bench Tails is a drawing of Sonic the Hedgehog character Tails from an extremely pornographic fan art webcomic featuring Tails and two small animal children. The first image of the comic showing Tails on a bench has been used as a trolling forum weapon and later in photoshopp...
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[25-Jun-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/american-vietnam-sentenced-12-years-attempting-overthrow-state-n1020941

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American in Vietnam sentenced to 12 years for attempting to overth...
Michael Nguyen, who was born in Vietnam and has lived in the United States since he was a child, was detained in Vietnam in July 2018.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_26/2907721/190624-michael-nguyen-cs-853a_8d8fc485ffde6c407c0a2d43c09df37e.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-Jun-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Carroll says that she disclosed the Trump incident to two friends at the time. One, whom Carroll describes as “a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc.,” told her to go to the police: “‘He raped you,’ she kept repeating when I called her. ‘He raped you. Go to the police! I’ll go with you. We’ll go together.’” The other, who is also a journalist, was sympathetically cautious: “‘Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you.’” Carroll writes that the Donna Karan coat-dress she wore that day “still hangs on the back of my closet door.” She wore it for the first time since the attack for her portrait session with New York for the cover, above."


[25-Jun-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking hue


[25-Jun-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, image is gone already lol


[25-Jun-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
404


[25-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[25-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, there's another one


[25-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
this one is sourced to 4chan though


[25-Jun-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
and the source is also 404


[25-Jun-19 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, at least it's slightly more aesthetically pleasing


[25-Jun-19 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still racist tho


[25-Jun-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish racism didn;t ruin all the fun ideas and hand gestures


[25-Jun-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/592851857655857172/image0.jpg

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[25-Jun-19 02:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Racist but also... 🍆 🐵


[25-Jun-19 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least that image is cute


[25-Jun-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlike the other one...


[25-Jun-19 03:02 AM] ISamusI#5581
Yeah. This one is pretty nice.


[25-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo opened a new store today


[25-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In Tel Aviv


[25-Jun-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people are pissed


[25-Jun-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why are people pissed at this?


[25-Jun-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because some people don't know the difference between providing material support for colonization of disputed territory and opening a store in the country doing it.


[25-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[25-Jun-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people don't buy Sodastreams


[25-Jun-19 04:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/IdeJ1FKdiQE

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Michael Saba
https://youtu.be/IdeJ1FKdiQE
KILL la KILL Decoded: Fashion, Fascism & the Fight for Freedom
Yes, KILL la KILL is a dumb and horny action anime about skimpy battle uniforms. But it's also an amazingly relevant coming-of-age tale, and its message chan...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IdeJ1FKdiQE/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Jun-19 04:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's baaack


[25-Jun-19 05:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=399712

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Gohmert Responds to Undercover Video of Google Released by Project...


[25-Jun-19 05:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
muzlims laws down on uz https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-islamophobia-sharia-law-poll-conservative-party-members-leadership-a8971731.html

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Two-thirds of Tory party members believe ‘parts of the UK are un...
Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt urged to combat ‘Islamophobia crisis’ in party
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[25-Jun-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The crisis being that not all of them are Islamophobes, from their perspective.


[25-Jun-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/24/735413213/for-days-oregon-republicans-are-on-the-lam-over-a-climate-bill

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Oregon Republicans Are On The Lam Over A Climate Bill
Senate Republicans in Oregon have refused to come to the Capitol, denying the legislature the quorum needed to vote on a cap-and-trade bill. The state police has been sent to retrieve them.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/06/24/ap_19164611572513_wide-31d28b83bccc388c068d5b07a251c5d7ead17924.jpg?s=1400


[25-Jun-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what happens to most people who refuse to show up to work? They get fired.


[25-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/24/americas/mexico-sends-15000-troops-to-us-mexico-border-intl/index.html

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Mexico sends nearly 15,000 troops to the US border
Mexico has deployed almost 15,000 troops to the US-Mexico border, according to the country's Secretary of Defense Luis Sandoval.
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[25-Jun-19 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
>The deployments come after renewed pressure from the Trump administration on Mexico to help slow migration flows northward. Mexico, however, has also called on the United Nations and the United States to help with the monumental task.


[25-Jun-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JackBMontgomery/status/1139947205681393665

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Scottish teacher throws out pupil for saying there are only two genders, because that's not the opinion of The Authority™. Most of the people defending Jo Brand's right to encourage people to throw acid on Nigel Farage as the last stand for free speech seem strangely qui...
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Twitter


[25-Jun-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the conservative sites like the daily wire and the blaze are going bananas over this


[25-Jun-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
they're claiming he was suspended as well, but I can't find anything confirming that


[25-Jun-19 02:01 PM] byte[]#2610
PFFF https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-iran-news-crisis-rouhani-tensions-middle-east-latest-a8973326.html

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Iran's president says Trump White House 'afflicted by mental retar...
Hassan Rouhani brands new US sanctions against Iran’s supreme leader ‘idiotic’
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[25-Jun-19 02:01 PM] byte[]#2610
"ur retarded" ~iran


[25-Jun-19 02:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lol


[25-Jun-19 03:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't wait for Woke Twitter to get mad at Iran for using The R Word™


[25-Jun-19 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
@Marukomuru or trump calling their mums gey

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[25-Jun-19 04:49 PM] Shush#9067
Iceland is pushing for a complete ban of ritual circumcision on people who cannot give consent to the operation


[25-Jun-19 04:49 PM] Shush#9067
About fucking time


[25-Jun-19 04:49 PM] Shush#9067
Male genital mutilation needs to end


[25-Jun-19 04:53 PM] Shush#9067
also high quality discourse from out Iranian friends lol 'Lel ur a tard'


[25-Jun-19 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Official US response: "No u"

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[25-Jun-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a7a9acc4c6a546829a258e008d10d705

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US gov't moves migrant kids after AP exposes bad treatment
The U.S. government has removed most children from a remote Border Patrol station in Texas near the border with Mexico following reports that more than 300 children were detained there and caring...
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[25-Jun-19 05:27 PM] Shush#9067
Irian is like the virgin of rogue states


[25-Jun-19 05:27 PM] Shush#9067
Where NK is the chad


[25-Jun-19 05:27 PM] Shush#9067
NK gets to have all the cool nuke stuff


[25-Jun-19 05:27 PM] Shush#9067
Whereas iran gets to have none of it nor even threaten any of it


[25-Jun-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm still losing my shit over iran calling the president retarded


[25-Jun-19 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, they aren't wrong, trump's basically saying he wants to be friends with iran while simultaneously punching them in the gut


[25-Jun-19 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
iran isn't a rogue state, either


[25-Jun-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
oh, "rogue state" is an arbitrary definition assigned by the united states


[25-Jun-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
states currently considered "rogue" by the US are cuba (LOL), iran, sudan, syria, north korea, and venezuela


[25-Jun-19 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
state's formerly considered "rogue" by the US are afghanistan, iraq, libya, and yugoslavia


[25-Jun-19 05:40 PM] Shush#9067
Any definition is arbitrary, it still makes to a rogue state according to the definition given though


[25-Jun-19 05:40 PM] Shush#9067
And its generally states at odds with the west/OTAN


[25-Jun-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
cuba hasn't been at odds with the west in decades, they're only still considered "rogue" because they're the only successful socialist state that managed to keep the US from overthrowing it


[25-Jun-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
well, there's vietnam too I guess


[25-Jun-19 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I'm surprised vietnam was never considered a rogue state


[25-Jun-19 05:43 PM] Shush#9067
Vietnam is more inwardly focussed and has always been


[25-Jun-19 05:43 PM] Shush#9067
Cuba was openly hostile but hasnt been for a few decades


[25-Jun-19 05:44 PM] Shush#9067
And Russia nor China arent on that list because theyre too large to obviously slight like that


[25-Jun-19 05:45 PM] Shush#9067
The Cuba US relations are a bit weird


[25-Jun-19 05:46 PM] Shush#9067
They sort of pretend to hate eachother but theres really not much in the ways of hostilities


[25-Jun-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sort of depends on our leaders of the time


[25-Jun-19 05:46 PM] Shush#9067
That too


[25-Jun-19 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
the US had relaxed sanctions on cuba and was starting to build economic ties with them until trump came in and immediately slammed all the sanctions back into place


[25-Jun-19 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
back in 2017


[25-Jun-19 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumpm also wants to back out of all of obama;s deals with other nations while demanding they still adhere to them despite us not being in them anymore


[25-Jun-19 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the iranian nuclear agreement


[25-Jun-19 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He backed out of it but still wants Iran to adhere to it


[25-Jun-19 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's working on backing out of a nuke treaty with russia


[25-Jun-19 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the treaty that effectively put the cold war on hold


[25-Jun-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and hes working on breaking up NATO to impose his own version of it that allows him to tariff how ever he damned well pleases


[25-Jun-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think rogue nations are currently justified int heir rogueness


[25-Jun-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, all of them except for cuba make sense


[25-Jun-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
that's why I put a big fuckin lol next to it


[25-Jun-19 06:05 PM] Arvid#8335
Good on Iceland


[25-Jun-19 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[25-Jun-19 06:06 PM] ISamusI#5581
Hmm...


[25-Jun-19 06:07 PM] ISamusI#5581
So what will all these treaty backs ultimately result in?


[25-Jun-19 06:07 PM] Arvid#8335
Good on them for banning circumcision


[25-Jun-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right


[25-Jun-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s going to result in our government being secluded form a lot of nations who know their deals won;t be honored


[25-Jun-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as sewn mistrust between us and our allies


[25-Jun-19 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any chance at diplomacy is now in the shitter due to trump demanding peace while punching thme with their own fist and asking "why are you hittign yourself" as he beats them over the head


[25-Jun-19 06:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically proving all the long-time detractors of the US right


[25-Jun-19 06:09 PM] Crow#5457
that it can't be trusted and that making deals with it come with a very big asterisk saying that the US can and will unilaterally back out of them at any time


[25-Jun-19 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
and guess who benefits the most from that? (hint: ||🇷🇺||)


[25-Jun-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It gives russian diplomats the ability to point us out to other countries and go "Hey, america hurt you, but it;s alright, we'll always be there for you.* We'll protect you for a price."


[25-Jun-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*we'll stab you in the back eventually but shhh we're now allies


[25-Jun-19 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://medium.com/@Phaylen/jk-rowling-confirms-stance-against-transgender-women-9bd83f7ca623

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JK Rowling Confirms Stance Against Transgender Women - Medium
It’s been a long time coming, but finally we have a definitive answer. JK Rowling is a TERF.
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[25-Jun-19 06:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
Wha


[25-Jun-19 06:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
I’m confused


[25-Jun-19 06:46 PM] ISamusI#5581
Is she obsessively for or against


[25-Jun-19 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She's been on and off lately, admitting to and apologizing for her frequent approval of TERFy hot takes


[25-Jun-19 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though i think the mask's already slipped off by now


[25-Jun-19 06:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
I know her only about the Harry Potter stuff


[25-Jun-19 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
HUFFLEPUFF GROUP ACTIVITIES


[25-Jun-19 06:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
Which makes me think she’s for all of this sjw stuff


[25-Jun-19 06:48 PM] ISamusI#5581
And, uh, that stuff.


[25-Jun-19 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god what a shitty article


[25-Jun-19 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The writer makes it out to be like she's in the front lines screaming and hollering about this shit


[25-Jun-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When she's... liked a few random tweets and followed some nobody


[25-Jun-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
social media was a mistake

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[25-Jun-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
delete all social media


[25-Jun-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
facebook twitter instagram snapchat skype discord slack ...


[25-Jun-19 08:31 PM] ISamusI#5581
I will admit though, for all the craziness that it causes, it really is very nice to talk with others.


[25-Jun-19 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
email, IRC / other chat channels, etc


[25-Jun-19 08:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
=0, even letters?


[25-Jun-19 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole "everyone can see everything and your every shitpost is broadcast to everyone in the clear" has just made people angrier and more anxious


[25-Jun-19 08:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
Reasonable.


[25-Jun-19 08:33 PM] ISamusI#5581
That does make sense.


[25-Jun-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She ain't following some nobody, though, the woman mentioned in the article turns out to be perhaps one of the most popular TERF's out there, iirc


[25-Jun-19 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think she has followed her by accident


[25-Jun-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, even if she isn't a committed TERF as the article claims she is, her political stances are still some pretty crappy mainstream lib takes, as also reflected in the HP books


[25-Jun-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She's a fantasy novel writer


[25-Jun-19 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody should be giving this much of a shit


[25-Jun-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She says this stuff to stay relevent instead of trying to write a new novel series


[25-Jun-19 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even good fantasy


[25-Jun-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she could probably retire off her harry potter fortune anyway


[25-Jun-19 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She's a billionaire


[25-Jun-19 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She doesn't need to do anything


[25-Jun-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Rich people with no time are the worst.


[25-Jun-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e1d7846777504402bb1ebb788db48b94

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Border official resigns amid uproar over migrant children
HOUSTON (AP) — The acting head of U.S. Customs and Border Protection resigned Tuesday amid an uproar over the discovery of migrant children being held in filthy conditions at one of the agency's...
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[25-Jun-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
We need to give Rowling a new hobby that isn't posting.


[25-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We need to get people to stop obsessing over "famous" people


[25-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rather than telling famous people they can't be themselves anymore


[25-Jun-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Social media's creating the greatest crowdsoruced police state out there


[25-Jun-19 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Famous people still hold influence though, quite a lot, and not only in economic terms


[25-Jun-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Starting with morality police, soon to be actual snitching police


[25-Jun-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People should be less weak and dependent on famous people for how they should think


[25-Jun-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe stop giving the people who petitioned to have good omens cancelled for having a devil in it all the power


[25-Jun-19 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yes indeed, but how would pointing out their shitty attitude not contribute to the goal of diminishing their status as role models?


[25-Jun-19 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I won't care if Rowling eventually retracts her transphobic takes


[25-Jun-19 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not advocating for role models anyway


[25-Jun-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell she may have just said this shit to stir up drama so she can apologize later and look like the bigger person, it seems to happen a lot these days with big people


[25-Jun-19 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She didn't _say_ anything


[25-Jun-19 09:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Makes sense, might have happened with Pewdiepie too


[25-Jun-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really?


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this drama is over soemthing she didnt even say?


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She clicked "like" on a few random posts from respected publications


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tha's even dumber


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And followed someone that's apparently a known terf


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One, of the 700 people she follows


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
700


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking hell


[25-Jun-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did someone comb through all 700?


[25-Jun-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Made sure there aren't any pro-trans users in that list?


[25-Jun-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"this person you;re acquantences with is a terf, therefore you are also a terf by association" That's really stupid drama


[25-Jun-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait for the day there's a public outcry because some famous person had an episode of Goblin Slayer in their YouTube likes


[25-Jun-19 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, i still wouldn't click "like" on a post by, say, the Proud Boys or UKIP, so either Rowling's indeed a terf or she's just very indiscriminate with how she reacts to social media content


[25-Jun-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she may have been liking a psot without evne giving a fuck who posted it, this is a non issue


[25-Jun-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/92d3ce14b1d64c459a7b8cea45b5b8a7

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Lawyers pause plan to divide any national opioid settlement
CLEVELAND (AP) — State and local governments suing over the toll of a nationwide opioid crisis agree that companies in the drug industry should be held accountable, but they have differences on...
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[26-Jun-19 02:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I agree cleberties are people too treat them the way you want to be treated


[26-Jun-19 03:36 AM] Shush#9067
Everyone has good and bad sides


[26-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Shush#9067
People that thought Rowling as some shining beacon of virtue just werent being honest with themselves, nobody is perfect. But people can be good. Too bad what is good can be very subjective in some contexts.


[26-Jun-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/25/rep-duncan-hunter-used-campaign-funds-extramarital-affairs-doj-alleges/1557897001/

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Prosecutors say Rep. Duncan Hunter used campaign funds to pay for ...
In new court documents filed on Monday, federal prosecutors said that Rep. Duncan Hunter used campaign funds to pay for five extramarital affairs.
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[26-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-robert-mueller-set-to-testify-publicly-on-july-17th/

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Josh Feldman
https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-robert-mueller-set-to-testify-publicly-on-july-17th/
Robert Mueller Set to Testify Publicly on July 17th
The chairs of the House Judiciary and Intel Committees announced tonight that special counsel Robert Mueller is set to publicly testify next month.
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[26-Jun-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/36e95b56e88e444bb67d997b47b046d6

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Powell says economy facing growing uncertainties
WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said Tuesday the outlook for the U.S. economy has become cloudier since early May, with rising uncertainties over trade and global growth...
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[26-Jun-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best news about this robert mueller hearing is that he isnt beholden to any DoJ orders anymore


[26-Jun-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can explicitly say shit now instead of dancing around things


[26-Jun-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/06/25/donald-trump-threatens-iran-overwhelming-force-if-attacks-u-s/1556587001/

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Donald Trump threatens 'overwhelming force' against Iran if it att...
Donald Trump said he would use "overwhelming force" against Iran if it attacks the U.S. again, a threat that comes days after he called off strikes.
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[26-Jun-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
speak loudly and carry a small cock


[26-Jun-19 04:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Trump can suck an apes dick


[26-Jun-19 04:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1143709133234954241?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1143709133234954241?s=21
Presidential Harassment!
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[26-Jun-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congressional oversight


[26-Jun-19 05:05 AM] Shush#9067
Big stick realpolitik


[26-Jun-19 05:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] speak like a barking dog and try to carry a stick that ends up being way too big for your tiny baby hands.


[26-Jun-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/BarnabyEdwards/status/1143574673004859392

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[26-Jun-19 07:39 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/mueller-to-testify-before-house-intel-and-judiciary-committees-july-17-62679621782

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Mueller to testify before House Intel and Judiciary Committees July 17
Chairmen Schiff and Nadler announced that Robert Mueller will testify before their committees back-to-back on July 17 after being subpoenaed. Lawrence discusses possible questions to be asked of Mueller with Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, a member of the House Judiciary Committee.
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[26-Jun-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
🇬🇧 🚌 💸 🏥 🤷🏻 🔪 🙇🏽


[26-Jun-19 07:43 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[26-Jun-19 12:34 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
This Democrat run Is gonna be fun lol


[26-Jun-19 01:24 PM] byte[]#2610
"fun"


[26-Jun-19 02:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Acting like theres chaos when everyone knows damn well there's like six actual candidates and the rest are given time so people don't bitch about the DNC being biased


[26-Jun-19 02:13 PM] ononim#8141
"You mean the chaos emeralds?"


[26-Jun-19 02:14 PM] ononim#8141
Man it was weird when everyone in mainstreem liberal popculture sphere acted like Obama was sort of friendly celebrety lol


[26-Jun-19 02:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It is always weird when a Tory member makes up some bullshit about their hobbies cause they know that what they actually do would not fly. Boris could have said what he actually does which is probably getting drunk and smashing windows as he has been caught doing it before and would still be the members choice for PM.


[26-Jun-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e98dcc8e8f8240b290223cf53f813570

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Experts fear 'snowball effect' as Iran abandons nuclear deal
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — As Iran prepares to surpass limits set by its 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, each step it takes narrows the time the country's leaders would need to have...
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[26-Jun-19 05:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.indy100.com/article/winston-churchill-statue-neon-genesis-evangelion-netflix-robot-petition-8973351

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A petition is calling for Churchill's statue to be replaced with a...
In the last three years, it would be safe to say that Britain has lost its collective mind over all sorts of issues - but politics is definitely one of the biggest hit.  Whether it be politicians
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[26-Jun-19 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or... replace the churchill statue with a churchhill eva


[26-Jun-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/fake-news-vaccine-works-pre-bunk-game-reduces-susceptibility-to-disinformation

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Fake news ‘vaccine’ works: ‘pre-bunk’ game reduces suscept...
Study of thousands of players shows a simple online game works like a “vaccine”, increasing skepticism of fake news by giving people a “weak dose” of the methods behind disinformation.
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[26-Jun-19 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-Jun-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a hard yikes


[26-Jun-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[26-Jun-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's hilarious is that a probably gay Jewish person was one of the most prominent members of the Confederate government


[26-Jun-19 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/26/health/prince-charles-patron-faculty-of-homeopathy-gbr-intl-scli/index.html

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Prince Charles under fire for becoming patron of homeopathy body
Britain's Prince Charles has come under fire after becoming the patron of a group that endorses homeopathic medicine.
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[26-Jun-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
moron


[26-Jun-19 07:46 PM] ononim#8141
It's just a ploy to make it look not suspicious when he drops some liquid in queen's tea, duh


[26-Jun-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No hom(e)o(pathy)


[26-Jun-19 08:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48774280

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William: 'I'd support my child if they were gay'
But the duke admitted he would be "nervous" about the pressures a gay royal might face.
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[26-Jun-19 08:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So hard being royalty.


[26-Jun-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-poland-defense/u-s-and-poland-sign-joint-defense-declaration-idUSW1N22500W

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U.S. and Poland sign joint defense declaration
The United States and Poland on Wednesday signed a joint declaration affirming d...
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[26-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, dem debate tonight


[26-Jun-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course it's at 3AM my time


[26-Jun-19 09:04 PM] ononim#8141
Going to wake up to memes we havw not a single idea about


[26-Jun-19 09:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I'm gonna watch It through YouTube I hardly have time for anything after I get home


[26-Jun-19 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.pcgamer.com/bernie-sanders-is-about-to-become-a-twitch-streamer/?utm_content=buffer5870c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw

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Bernie Sanders is about to become a Twitch streamer
Will there be Bernie emotes?
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[26-Jun-19 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
**GAMERS RISE UP**


[26-Jun-19 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
**YOU HAVE BITHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR DLC CHAINS**


[26-Jun-19 09:32 PM] ononim#8141
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[26-Jun-19 09:32 PM] ononim#8141
Military geniuses of leddit


[26-Jun-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Bumbleby Is Canon
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[26-Jun-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, America


[26-Jun-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Taxes are bad, if you want to help the poor donate to charities!"


[26-Jun-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Donating to charities and helping poor people is literally illegal"


[26-Jun-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We don't have the funding for equipment and supplies for our migrant centers! the democrats refuse to co-operate!" *Thousands of people donate supplies* "I'm afraid we can't accept these donations as what you;ve done is criminal, how dare you attempt to help these migrant children!"


[26-Jun-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lesbian-couple-kicked-out-aly-aj-concert-075156305.html

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Lesbian couple say they were called 'disgusting,' kicked out of co...
"We felt unsafe," one of the women said of allegedly being booted out of the show, which took place during the fair's LGBTQ-supporting event.
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[26-Jun-19 10:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
If ya'll want to watch the debates (today at 8pm eastern US time and tomorrow and maybe the same time) but don't want it to be too serious, Chapo Trap House will be doing live coverage of the debates, insulting and commentating on the thing. https://www.twitch.tv/Chapotraphouse

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chapotraphouse - Twitch
Wo Wet Windsay///We Wetting This Grind///Paper Stackers VS Paper Chasers///Money Never Meant A Thing
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[26-Jun-19 10:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/26/blacklisted-leaked-youtube-doc-appears-to-show-election-interference/
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/25/breaking-new-google-document-leaked-describing-shapiro-prager-as-nazis-using-the-dogwhistles/

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Insider Blows Whistle & Exec Reveals Google Plan to Prevent “Tru...
BIG UPDATE: YouTube has REMOVED the video from their platform. The video is still available on this website page.UPDATE 1: Congressman Louie Gohmert issued a statement, saying "Google should not be
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BLACKLISTED: LEAKED YOUTUBE DOC APPEARS TO SHOW ELECTION INTERFERENCE
Blocked terms include “Abortion is murder”, “Repeal the 8th,” “Irish Catholic,” “Pro-life” Ireland’s 8th Amendment Protected The Right to Life of Unborn(New York) Project Ver
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BREAKING: New Google Document Leaked Describing Shapiro, Prager, a...
(New York) – Project Veritas has obtained a newly leaked document from Google that appears to show a Google employee and member of Google “transparency-and-ethics” group calling conservative an
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[26-Jun-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
>project veritas
that's a yikes from me


[26-Jun-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
also reddit quarantined t_d


[26-Jun-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I found these stories yesterday but i could only find them from fox news and project veritas so i wasn't sure of their authenticity


[26-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a feeling Google's just not a fan of YouTube etc. being used by conservatives to spread politicized misinformation.


[26-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, scientific and economic truths nowadays are seen as liberal just to agree with.


[26-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That seems to be what this is on the surface.


[26-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, social media allows misinformation to spread like crazy


[26-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Google is concerned about this, looks into ways to reduce it


[26-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Project Veritas then creates more misinformation under the guise of REVEALING THE TRUTH by putting a spin on Google trying to let the truth flow rather than let conservatives abuse things as being anti-conservative.


[26-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, it's the classic "no no, Breitbart isn't fake news, and you trying to discredit them is just PARTISANSHIP!"


[26-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically at issue is someone at google talking about "preventing another Trump situation"


[26-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
which almost certainly means "preventing Russia from astroturfing everything to shit"


[26-Jun-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
but certain conservatives want to deny that that happened and just pretend that stopping Russian manipulation is being partisan


[26-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, this is gold


[26-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
further


[26-Jun-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Google was looking into making machine learning recognize bigotry


[26-Jun-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so conservatives at it raised a fuss to get Project Veritas in


[26-Jun-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically, they were worried that if they were saying blakk people should be killed


[26-Jun-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that Google would be able to autoban them


[26-Jun-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think this is one of the few incidents where conservatives are basically admitting among themselves that yes, their political leanings are bigoted as shit, by saying that going after bigotry would be going after them, intrinsically.


[27-Jun-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>vehemently defend _Citizens United_ and corporate personhood


[27-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>wtf why are these companies freely associating?!


[27-Jun-19 01:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/WormDrivePRO/status/1143945911757758464?s=19

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galaxy brain energy @donoteat1
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[27-Jun-19 01:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/lyftrs/status/1143952897648070658

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mike gravel shows up to the debate with a loaded gun
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[27-Jun-19 01:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then the entire area sinks.


[27-Jun-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.vox.com/2019/6/25/18715627/bernie-sanders-email-list-warn-immigrants-ice-raids-2020

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Bernie Sanders is using his massive email list to warn immigrants ...
Hours before Trump was set to send out the "deportation forces," Sanders’s campaign sent thousands of supporters a distress signal.
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[27-Jun-19 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based Bernie


[27-Jun-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jun-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/patreon-forced-transformation-sissification-ban/

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Patreon is cracking down on more adult content creators, artists claim
In June, Patreon began removing porn where a character forcibly hypnotizes another person. Now, 'bimbofication' and other types of porn are facing bans.
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[27-Jun-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess it;s time to build a new internet with blackjack and hookers


[27-Jun-19 02:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so how *do* you create a legitimate adult business online? Like, how does BD do it?


[27-Jun-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
money


[27-Jun-19 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean yeah but like, I can't imagine they had to create a credit card processing system from the ground up because no one would touch them


[27-Jun-19 02:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
's not like they just have a P.O. box listed for old-school mail ordering, either


[27-Jun-19 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>Henlo fren, u want sum dragon? Just print out this order form and enclose $200 cash with a self-addressed stamped envelope. We will have your silicone sculpture ready in a few weeks


[27-Jun-19 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the internet does not, and should not have to, work like this


[27-Jun-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
China wants it to work like this.


[27-Jun-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just substitute "NSFW" with "bad citizen"


[27-Jun-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry but you've been advocating for worker's rights, so you can't be on this platform etc. etc.


[27-Jun-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause at the end of the day, when you tell China that's wrong


[27-Jun-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll just tell you you also said that NSFW stuff can be *de facto* banned.


[27-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they need to do is turn around places like reddit from being against bigotry to being against disagreement with authority


[27-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, debates starting now


[27-Jun-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
we'll see if Warren dominates


[27-Jun-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, they're wrestling over how to fix income inequality


[27-Jun-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woooow what a fukking shill


[27-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy just said that he'd make sure anyone with employer healthcare wouldn't be automatically on medicare with his idea of medicare-for-all


[27-Jun-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
for sure the insurance companies are bankrolling him


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, all the candidates up for the first debate support Medicare For All in some capacity


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just that one guy is sayin


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which one


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll try to find out which, Inslee maybe?


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's too many damn candidates


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there are legitimately too many people on this stage for them not to have UN style giant name placards


[27-Jun-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i only remember a few of them, and i canlt remembermsot of their names


[27-Jun-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note I was only listening, not watching, mostly.


[27-Jun-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i even forgot which one was warren for a minute


[27-Jun-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m watching and listening but mostly listening


[27-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, one thing to note


[27-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren has most likely already won


[27-Jun-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
she raised her hand on ditching private insurance if a public option becomes available


[27-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[27-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was one of the women


[27-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Angry woman


[27-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So she won't win


[27-Jun-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The acoustics are bad in the living room I guess


[27-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Klobuchar


[27-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was Klobuchar


[27-Jun-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh this is confusing, there's too many fucking people


[27-Jun-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who thecrap is klobuchar?


[27-Jun-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait no


[27-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I got some of Klobuchar mixed up with the one I think is shilling


[27-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar was just arguing for incremental approach, which is kinda dumb


[27-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was Beto, aha


[27-Jun-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto flip-flopped towards NAH LET THE UNIONS COVER WORKERS


[27-Jun-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Figures.


[27-Jun-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto is tuff on crime as well


[27-Jun-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's not outright Blue Dog but he's close


[27-Jun-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto said that under his plan, you'd get Medicare if you can't afford premiums, but if there's anything resembling halfway decent healthcare at your employer, EAT SHIT


[27-Jun-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very much the "I know I hav to support this but also they paid me a lot" position.


[27-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that was after withdrawing support for Bernie's plan.


[27-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also was the one who diverted everything to abortion


[27-Jun-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares it's Warren/Biden/Sanders/Buttigieg that matter


[27-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
In like the same sentence.


[27-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest is filler arc


[27-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto just needs to be fukking ejected


[27-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's a shill


[27-Jun-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's blue for Texas but he's red for America.


[27-Jun-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He deliberately switched the debate trakk because he could see he was losing on taking his very business-friendly approach to healthcare.


[27-Jun-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
De Blasio is *something*


[27-Jun-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar is just Warren but worse in every way


[27-Jun-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking this debate round is literally Warren vs. nobodies


[27-Jun-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like they rigged it to get rid of any opponent that could scratch her.


[27-Jun-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's gonna get demolished by Bernie in round 2 I think.


[27-Jun-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
warren vs, the herd of people no one knwos the names of


[27-Jun-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause this round, EVERY candidate supported medicare for all and Roe v Wade


[27-Jun-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means coming into the second round


[27-Jun-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Biden doesn't signal strong support for a gov't healthcare option which the state of Georgia cannot legally prevent from covering first trimester abortions...


[27-Jun-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's screwed


[27-Jun-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/450555-woman-indicted-for-manslaughter-after-miscarrying-when-shot

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Woman indicted for manslaughter after miscarrying when shot
An Alabama woman was indicted for manslaughter after she was shot and her unborn child died because a grand jury said she initiated the confrontation,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gavel_istock_0.jpg

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[27-Jun-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's current positions I think are barely in support of Roe and somewhat against MfA


[27-Jun-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's default mode crushes that, and Bernie is like Warren but ANGRIER


[27-Jun-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg is nothing, @Itsthinking


[27-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire primary is really just whether Warren can use Bernie as a booster to beat Biden.


[27-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old, christian, blakk, and uneducated people massively prefer Biden


[27-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone else likes Bernie


[27-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Warren to a slightly lesser degree


[27-Jun-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Warren has more party support


[27-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party won't allow itself to become nothing but Bernie


[27-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren preserves just enuff.


[27-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[27-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bunch of them made big talk on returning manufacturing jobs to America


[27-Jun-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's all bullshit


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it either goes to China or to an American robot


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Indonesia


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or india


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should've focused more on improving renewable energy and on reeducating workers.


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren has the negative of being an angry woman


[27-Jun-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This focus on just giving workers their old jobs is bad.


[27-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking not a huge problem in today's environment


[27-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women will line up in droves to vote for her


[27-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The downside to being a woman is you get seen as more liberal


[27-Jun-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Democrats now are majority liberal


[27-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The winning strategy vs. Trump is to get women, blakks, and latinos on your side


[27-Jun-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
without pissing off Christian white males too much


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically that means talking less on abortion and more on healthcare


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and being a woman


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and not blakk or latino)


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
also being Christian


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is one of the big issues with Bernie


[27-Jun-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's a near-atheist Jew


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Secular Jews are common


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
his presence enrages Christians


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want this country to be run by a Christian


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will not tolerate secular leadership


[27-Jun-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they want Biden


[27-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know he'll ditch fighting for Roe the moment he's in office.


[27-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's only issues with voting bases is women


[27-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Biden was a woman, it would be no contest at all.


[27-Jun-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren would be dead in the water.


[27-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Warren is an unbeatable tikket btw


[27-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it could defeat Bernie/Klobuchar even


[27-Jun-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is that things are instead Warren/Biden


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would absolutely appease Christian white males


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie/Biden?


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impossible


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie can't be the presidential nominee.


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party won't allow it.


[27-Jun-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The voters won't allow it either.


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christians hate Bernie and blakks think he's too liberal


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people do as well


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All Warren has against her is the Pocahontas thing


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you've got it all wrong


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She objectively has native American ancestry


[27-Jun-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody givs 2 shits


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
about partial native ancestry


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
most people don't even remember that


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
to them she's white


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
natives are a complete non-issue as well


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
she could say they aren't people


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
or she could promise reparations


[27-Jun-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the effect in either direction would be tiny


[27-Jun-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the former case, she loses their vote which isn't even a single state flip in the EC


[27-Jun-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the latter case, she loses, like, Illinois or something


[27-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm being quite serious here, every democratic candidate could go on record today as saying that Native Americans should never hav been given citizenship because they're inhuman


[27-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that they deserve to be given land and sovereignty bakk


[27-Jun-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of them would see a change in winning/losing the primary or general elections


[27-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just how little whites care about it and how little natives contribute to the vote


[27-Jun-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
My state has 6 indian reservations btw


[27-Jun-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
solid red, all 3 of its votes went to McCain in 2008


[27-Jun-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
natives are treated like white trash, but with their own special areas where the state steals their land.


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's biggest issue is not being seen as Christian enuff


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
She can convince people she's not as liberal as Bernie, barely


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and win over blakks and old people


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
or at least make up for it with support from women


[27-Jun-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Christians...that's a huge issue.


[27-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Biden.


[27-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see her as coming to giv out free abortions (which is actually literally part of her policy platform and she explicitly said so tonite)


[27-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want someone scummy like Biden who will change his position regularly and ensure only the minimal changes are made if any.


[27-Jun-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Christians want a dishonest evil sexist asshole**


[27-Jun-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because people like to vote for people who are similar in behavior and beliefs to them.


[27-Jun-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And being devout Christian in today's society with the baggage of Christianity generally means believing women should be raped full of babies.


[27-Jun-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a filter for being scummy and sexist.


[27-Jun-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The less scummy and less sexist left the religion and never looked bakk.


[27-Jun-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Falwell is awful


[27-Jun-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who?


[27-Jun-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's a candidate, https://politics.theonion.com/media-urged-not-to-release-names-of-any-more-presidenti-1835302127

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Media Urged Not To Release Names Of Any More Presidential Candidat...
WASHINGTON—Warning that the promise of publicity and notoriety is often exactly what motivates a run for the White House in the first place, media ethics groups called on news outlets Thursday to stop releasing the names of presidential candidates, part of an effort to stem...
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[27-Jun-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“These announcements have been happening nearly every week, often accompanied by some sort of policy proposal that has been written in an attempt to justify the action. But when those ideas get repeated in the media, they can inspire a whole new crop of imitators who seek the attention that comes from a presidential campaign. It is irresponsible to make celebrities out of these people. They are clearly very sick.” At press time, it appeared the new media strategy failed when former New Orleans mayor Mitch Landrieu announced he was running for president. '


[27-Jun-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/jerry-falwell-jr-russell-moore-preacher-migrant-detention-children-1445937

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Jerry Falwell Jr. attacked preacher for speaking against Trump adm...
"What gives you authority to speak on any issue? I'm being serious," Jerry Falwell Jr. asked preacher Russell Moore over his criticisms of the Trump administration's treatment of migrant children.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1507030/falwell-trump.jpg


[27-Jun-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS WITHOUT BEING RICH/POWERFUL, basically


[27-Jun-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
"It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven." - Jesus


[27-Jun-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Falwell Jr. would have gotten upset at Jesus throwing the money changers out.


[27-Jun-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at him smiting the fig tree.


[27-Jun-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, they just talked about how to stop Mitch


[27-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did Bernie say this yet


[27-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmcpiM3SSOA/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's in round 2, Its


[27-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is round 1, where Warren feeds on the little ones


[27-Jun-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh right


[27-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's O'Rourke and Booker but neither matter


[27-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booker's only good moment was talking about how he beat Mitch on criminal justice reform, which wasn't a big victory anyways


[27-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not getting IRL Cory in the House I guess


[27-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
O'Rourke is AIDS


[27-Jun-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well we can still get that if he's demoted to House rep


[27-Jun-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aaaand 9/11


[27-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was brought up earlier too by Klobuchar


[27-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
she really wants everyone to know she's fought Al Qaeda


[27-Jun-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, it's her only card to play


[27-Jun-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
too bad Buttigieg has that card too


[27-Jun-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Noun verb 9/11


[27-Jun-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good 10 more candidates tomorrow


[27-Jun-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only 2 of thme i'll recognize are bernie and biden


[27-Jun-19 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT2yTSet_1Y

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT2yTSet_1Y
Trump Slams Google As Veritas Censorship Controversy Escalates
Trump Slams Google As Veritas Censorship Controversy Escalates. Donald Trump made a statement in the early morning regarding the Veritas censorship expose. H...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MT2yTSet_1Y/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Jun-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Planned Parenthood idiocy all over again


[27-Jun-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get someone to say a few things out of context, add spin that makes it seem like illegal activity that it's not, conservative politicians see an in to start grilling what they don't like.


[27-Jun-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
damn, busy day today


[27-Jun-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
usually it's trolls that causes that amount of activity


[27-Jun-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], why was this a hard yikes? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456099146001285142/593477614350630922/image0.jpg

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[27-Jun-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
is it because it's trying to market capital?


[27-Jun-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
and that thing about the alabama woman being charged with manslaughter for her dead unborn child after she was shot by someone else is a sign that alabama's going for the world record in retardation


[27-Jun-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
this is like four dimensional retardation


[27-Jun-19 08:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's basically missing the point of Capital. Though, it'd be easy to mis-market Capital to a certain group of people because it's a three volume series and all the volumes are pretty thick. Vol. 1 is a fucking brick.


[27-Jun-19 08:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wealth Of Nations is a handbook compared to Capital and that's a three or four volume series too.


[27-Jun-19 08:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Marx goes in depth on economic theories and then relentless dives into economic history since the 1700's to back that up.


[27-Jun-19 08:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
All the while alluding and referencing, addressing, responding to, and critiquing contemporary and earlier economic theory, where Ricardo and Adam Smith got it right or wrong compared to trends.


[27-Jun-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
btw, I liked that kill la kill analysis a lot


[27-Jun-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
I watched the anime 4 years ago


[27-Jun-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
I still remember it pretty well, it was a really good anime


[27-Jun-19 08:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cool


[27-Jun-19 04:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/450641-supreme-court-rules-against-trump-administration-over-census

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Supreme Court rules against Trump over census citizenship question
The Supreme Court found Thursday that the Trump administration did not give an adequate reason for adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scotus_supremecourt_012219gn8.jpg


[27-Jun-19 04:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Developing story


[27-Jun-19 04:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Supreme Court tosses citizenship question from 2020 census forms, a victory for Democratic states https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-tosses-citizenship-question-2020-census-forms-victory-democratic-n1014651

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Supreme Court tosses citizenship question from 2020 census forms, ...
The court found that while the department of commerce has a right to reinstate the question, it did not provide an adequate justification for doing so.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_24/2886336/190606-census-citizenship-supreme-court-cs-1248p_794ec14fd5d34e6274dc8b5d3c05fa59.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Jun-19 04:55 PM] illumnious#7938
This is going to be fun


[27-Jun-19 04:56 PM] ISamusI#5581
What’s that about?


[27-Jun-19 05:39 PM] illumnious#7938
*The court found that while the Commerce Department has a right to reinstate the question, it did not provide an adequate justification for doing so.*


[27-Jun-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
when bernie's a twitch streamer https://i.redd.it/s234rw84ut631.jpg

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[27-Jun-19 06:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1144268009508343808

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https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/1144268009508343808
One of the greatest tragedies of the 21st century is the stagnation and slow decline of nuclear power in most countries. It could have considerably reduced CO2 emissions.
Twitter


[27-Jun-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh, that census ruling is **big**


[27-Jun-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they ruled in such a way that courts could tear apart every decision the Trump administration has made


[27-Jun-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
From trans serving in the military to EPA rules to FCC net neutrality repeal.


[27-Jun-19 06:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How does it work?


[27-Jun-19 06:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In tl;dr


[27-Jun-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of ruling on whether the provided rationale was valid, or the effects, they ruled that the provided rationale was clearly fraudulent.


[27-Jun-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most Trump administration decisions involve making a decision first based on bigotry/science denial/etc., then creating a rationale to provide that, while potentially adequate, is clearly not what they actually used to come to the decision in the first place; bakk-justifying decisions.


[27-Jun-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The court just ruled that decisions are invalid if the provided rationale is clearly not what was used.


[27-Jun-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a **huge** win for evidence-based policymaking and transparency.


[27-Jun-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can now just say that Ajit Pai lied, therefore Net Neutrality rules stay.


[27-Jun-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 4 conservative justices opposing this ruling oppose it under the grounds that they didn't evaluate the excuse, only threw it out as an excuse.


[27-Jun-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which they see as serious overreach because it means very intense scrutiny [that prevents bigots from getting their way with bullshit]


[27-Jun-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Census question sure


[27-Jun-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But they allow partisan gerrymandering


[27-Jun-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very different, Its


[27-Jun-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is chevron defense, that's "ain't no rule"


[27-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
(along with "we don't know a perfect standard so let's not hav one ever!")


[27-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and "we don't want this case coming before us for every single map every ten years")


[27-Jun-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just neutered the false chevron defense.


[27-Jun-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So first night


[27-Jun-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically Warren showing she's got legs for this


[27-Jun-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
She screwed up by talking a ton on gun control and none on climate change


[27-Jun-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Climate change isn't an issue in Ohio


[27-Jun-19 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48791094

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Twitter to label rule-breaking politicians
Twitter tries a new way to handle politicians who break its rules but are too newsworthy to ban.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/AA42/production/_107568534_twtttr.jpg


[27-Jun-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for Trump to freak the fuck out over some of his tweets being behind a spoiler


[27-Jun-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So for the next debate, Biden and Bernie will be in the center


[27-Jun-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I missed the first one


[27-Jun-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Did anything important happen


[27-Jun-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-EpPDIXoAkBzoJ.jpg:large

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[27-Jun-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
:ponythinking: 🤔


[27-Jun-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Warren beating the B team


[27-Jun-19 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
Like I don't support Huawei spying for PRC gov


[27-Jun-19 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
but


[27-Jun-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
why ban them  but not NSA


[27-Jun-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
~~okay I know the answer but still~~


[27-Jun-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/87df2f3806364a8c925284640b40568c

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Envoy: US doesn't want war with Iran, but wants to be ready
PARIS (AP) — The United States does not want a full-blown war with Iran, although it still is seeking to build up international defenses in the region just in case of a conflict, President Donald...
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[27-Jun-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/aa8e33de6140443cba4252487919ff92

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US to China: Fix tech policies. China's retort: Drop tariffs
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Americans want to safeguard their technological riches, restore balance to their top trading relationship and force a sharp-elbowed rival to play by the rules and keep its...
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[27-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No u


[27-Jun-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NO U


[27-Jun-19 09:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/obamamalik/status/1143924655444713474?s=21

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[27-Jun-19 09:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:OKTrump:


[27-Jun-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/tim-ryan-attempting-to-stand-out-from-other-candidates-1835870204

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[27-Jun-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's be real, more people know who the blue ranger was in every incarnation of power rangers than understand Tim Ryan's policies.


[27-Jun-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This movie will only confuse voters.


[27-Jun-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Warren should've come dressed as Pocahontas and Klobuchar should've had desert camo on


[27-Jun-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, if Bernie comes in like a bright red suit.


[27-Jun-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even knwo what tim ryan;s policies are and i watched the debate


[27-Jun-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wasn't even aware he was there and I watched the first 20 minutes.


[27-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I only found out De Blasio was there from reading articles about it


[27-Jun-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
See this is why you don't host presidential debates on pub servers


[27-Jun-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
De Blasio pretty much just threw up his mayoral resume as a debate arguement


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] RYDE#8862
Seeing the blue ranger, that's going to make the Republican decided that the left had lost its mind.


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The ranger we really need is the green ranger


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, didn't he say he passed a public option?


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or was that uh...the uh...Inslee?


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure


[27-Jun-19 11:14 PM] RYDE#8862
Jay inslee


[27-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of them touted that he had signed legislation giving people a public option.


[27-Jun-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck i;m not evne sure what warren has done in her career


[27-Jun-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aside fro maybe school teacher?


[27-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
All she talked about was how bad the economy was and how much we need medicare for all


[27-Jun-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
also that somehow manufacturing jobs will return


[27-Jun-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think corporations would let that happen unless it was purely robotic


[27-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
She didn't say how


[27-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
just that they would.


[27-Jun-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it wouldn't happen.


[27-Jun-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck even walmart is becoming an automated robot


[27-Jun-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldn;t surprise me to learn walmart is trying to design a roomba that stocks shelves


[27-Jun-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/9/18302356/walmart-robots-labor-costs-replacing-human-tasks-floors-scanning-inventory

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Walmart is hiring more robots to replace human tasks like cleaning...
Walmart has several jobs in mind for the new robots.
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[27-Jun-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what happens when the last vestige of employment is no longer hiring?


[27-Jun-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
UBI or bust


[27-Jun-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can hold an another 50 years just by getting everyone programming etc., stuff that there's no AI to do yet


[27-Jun-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Well shareholders, we finally did it! we finally created a store that no one can shop at because no one hasmoney to spend"


[27-Jun-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that requires CRAZY education


[27-Jun-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
free 8 year college


[27-Jun-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
UBI has to be in place to shore up the gaps


[27-Jun-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look at our beautiful investment in an empty store full of patrolling robots that do basically nothing!"


[27-Jun-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart actually has a serious problem with inventorying


[27-Jun-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i noticed


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
their system primarily relies on seeing things go thru the chekkout


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
the software is garbage


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can't do quantities on self chekkout because it would only consider it 1 item


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's easy to scan a milk twice, but the customer bought two different brands


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then people steal stuff


[27-Jun-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then stuff gets damaged


[27-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
also, it's company policy to not report as stolen empty pakkages found in the middle of the store


[27-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
because a customer COULD hav bought it and just left the pakkage


[27-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It all adds up to them having no fukking clue about what's actually in the store and where it is.


[27-Jun-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sh yes they bought the item thne returned the box to the place they got it from


[27-Jun-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
tooootally


[27-Jun-19 11:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318129883421081600/593915989926739981/unknown.png

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[27-Jun-19 11:33 PM] ononim#8141
uh oh


[27-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
but worse, electronics has a chekkout, which means it actually can happen


[27-Jun-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
So either way they do it, they're fukked.


[27-Jun-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if soemthing isn;t selling enough they donpt bother stocking it anymore, but it could totally be selling enough and they wouldn;t know


[27-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
the result is they need extreme amounts of manual labor spread across months to deal with mistakes in the inventory system


[27-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes they literally hav no room to stokk things.


[27-Jun-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also every 3 months corporate tells them to shuffle around entire departments


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is against the founder's vision


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
the reason his store was a success was because he kept things in the same place


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont understand this move either


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
which reduced losses from moving items around


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and made customers happy because they could remember where shit was


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"lety;s get more money by confusing our customers"


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's deliberate


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s stupid


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want you to buy things on impulse while lost and confused


[27-Jun-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it works because there is nowhere else to shop


[27-Jun-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They make you lost, confused, angry, hungry, thirsty, oh hey why don't you buy some beverages and a pizza and a new shirt before you go?


[27-Jun-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if you;re the only person in a 20 mile radius who buys a certain product thye stop stocking it because fuck me


[27-Jun-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
corporate determines what they stokk


[27-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it givs no shits about regional sales


[27-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it controls the damn AC


[27-Jun-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish to burn corporate tot he ground


[27-Jun-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart is ridiculously  centralized


[27-Jun-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it burns to the ground, does the whole thing burn down?


[27-Jun-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would they order the stores to light themselves ablaze so it matches the corporate location?


[27-Jun-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're assuming that corporate is attached to a physical location


[28-Jun-19 12:02 AM] ononim#8141
https://kamo.photography/blog/photographing-evil-story-arnold-newman-alfred-krupp/

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Photographing Evil: The Story of Arnold Newman and Alfred Krupp


[28-Jun-19 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean


[28-Jun-19 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
If you nuke bentonville I don't think the rest of the chain is going to last very long


[28-Jun-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if corporate went up in flames i;d hope the board of directors is inside for maximum damage


[28-Jun-19 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well if corporate went up in flames all the others would too anyway 'cause they have to match the temperature :D


[28-Jun-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
SET THEM ALL TO SEVEN HUNDRED DEGREES BILL


[28-Jun-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
IT MUST BE VERY COLD OUTSIDE


[28-Jun-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the debate is on


[28-Jun-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just want the YEAH!!! guy from the bethesda conference int his audience


[28-Jun-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
MediRoe for All


[28-Jun-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has already won this debate I think


[28-Jun-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris meanwhile is doing a Warren impression


[28-Jun-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is uh...being boring so he doesn't offend anyone, I think.


[28-Jun-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looking like those three and Buttigieg will just absorb poll numbers from the rest.


[28-Jun-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris did btw take a shot at Biden on racism


[28-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Harris slammed Biden on his BS about LOCAL CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE RACIST DECISIONS TOOBAD


[28-Jun-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt it'll hurt him, but Harris is making a very strong case that Biden's fukking racist


[28-Jun-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie-Marrianne is the power team we need


[28-Jun-19 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like marrianne williamson, I donlt know enough about her to really support her but she seems like a cool person


[28-Jun-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh Yang would probably be great but he just is too polite.


[28-Jun-19 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/60b877521eec4667b64190b77bbf9136

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Trump jokes to Putin: 'Don't meddle in the election'
OSAKA, Japan (AP) — With a smirk and a finger point, President Donald Trump dryly told Russia's Vladimir Putin "Don't meddle in the election" in their first meeting since the special counsel...
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[28-Jun-19 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/86304c4d7e0a4978b670890dc076d11f

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Putin uses G-20 to strengthen alliances, soothe tensions
OSAKA, Japan (AP) — Russia's President Vladimir Putin used a series of talks with global leaders at the Group of 20 summit on Friday to strengthen old alliances and try to soothe tensions with...
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[28-Jun-19 04:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/apple-moves-production-of-6g-mac-pro-to-china

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Apple moves production of $6G Mac Pro to China
Apple is manufacturing its new Mac Pro computer in China, according to people familiar with its plans, shifting abroad production of what had been its only major device assembled in the U.S. as trade tensions escalate between the Trump administration and Beijing.
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[28-Jun-19 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
Jil Stein is out


[28-Jun-19 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
Marianne Williamson is in


[28-Jun-19 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://mariannewilliamson2020.tumblr.com/post/185903799898

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Marianne Williamson 2020
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Marianne Williamson 2020
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[28-Jun-19 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
shitpost https://i.redd.it/i0fm9evn9z631.jpg

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[28-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck are those marianne tweets


[28-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
>When God is seen as He, the soul is seen as She


[28-Jun-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
the soul is not seen as She in regards to yin/yang wtf


[28-Jun-19 07:11 PM] ononim#8141
Do not doubt future High Priestess


[28-Jun-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-iran-nuclear-eu/last-ditch-talks-to-keep-iran-under-nuclear-limits-headed-for-failure-idUKKCN1TT0HR

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Iran says progress at last-ditch nuclear deal talks 'not enough'
European countries offered too little at last-ditch talks on Friday to persuade ...
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[28-Jun-19 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] please wok?


[28-Jun-19 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why do i have to please an east asian frying pan


[28-Jun-19 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
please cok


[28-Jun-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5fc8f6f89d3b40ea8b465f2c6e5f8a09

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Supreme Court to rule on Trump bid to end 'dreamers' program
WASHINGTON (AP) — Adding a high-stakes immigration case to its election-year agenda, the Supreme Court said Friday it will decide whether President Donald Trump can terminate an Obama-era program...
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[28-Jun-19 08:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.pcgamer.com/eve-online-is-in-chaos-after-an-unprecedented-alien-invasion/

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EVE Online is in chaos after an unprecedented alien invasion
All of EVE Online's player-run empires are scrambling to defend their territory from a full-scale siege.
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[28-Jun-19 08:09 PM] ononim#8141
Triubling development in New Eden galaxy /s


[28-Jun-19 08:17 PM] ISamusI#5581
Oh snap


[28-Jun-19 08:17 PM] ISamusI#5581
That’s cool


[28-Jun-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To Biden:


[28-Jun-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/lbVdyPZiOLM

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Ya Blew It...
Ya Blew It.... Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job! Season 3 Episode 9
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[28-Jun-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.vox.com/2019/6/28/19102467/democratic-debates-online-polls-gabbard-yang

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The Democratic debates helped demonstrate the dubiousness of onlin...
Gabbard and Yang were the big winners — on Drudge, at least.
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[28-Jun-19 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
gosh, who would have expected that a poll taken without any sort of oversight, anti-hacking, or fraud prevention could have skewed results


[28-Jun-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it always baffles me when people point to these kinds of polls AS EVIDENCE that the election should've gone the other way.


[29-Jun-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, conversely, that it was completely on the level


[29-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gonintendo.com/stories/338742-former-pokemon-tcg-artist-says-otaku-are-the-biggest-suckers

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Former Pokemon TCG artist says otaku are the 'biggest suckers'
People are just a bit angry about this
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[29-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean she's kind of right


[29-Jun-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the fact that she doesn't see Marvel as the same shit just makes me think she's a Westaboo.


[29-Jun-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought they were myths.


[29-Jun-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
westaboos?


[29-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People from Japan who idolize Western culture


[29-Jun-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An inverted weeaboo


[29-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Note that this is a common stance in Japan, Miyazaki hates otaku too


[29-Jun-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This person is just burning all of the bridges and shitting on Japanese culture, she said that if Zootopia were made in Japan it would be destroyed


[29-Jun-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She thinks otaku are suckers because you just add T&A and they'll buy anything


[29-Jun-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are japanese people who think king of the hill is the greatest anime ever, I can beleive they exist


[29-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blasphemy


[29-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cory in the House is the best


[29-Jun-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s a serious debate in japan


[29-Jun-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the manga is even better


[29-Jun-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, to be fair otaku are a wildly different culture in japan thna thye are in america


[29-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[29-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US it's just people who watch anime/have a waifu etc


[29-Jun-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's absolutely obsessed people in Japan who will buy anything with anime plastered on it


[29-Jun-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"otaku" in america are a lot mroe outgoing, productive, cumminicable, and tend to find creative ways to make jobs. In japan it;s a shut in culture of people who couldn;t deal with the pressure of ja[pan;s fucked up work culture and became completely insular int heir hobbies as a means of coping


[29-Jun-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are also different types of otaku in japan as well, Train otaku, lego otaku, anime/game otaku, ramen otaku


[29-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ramen otaku


[29-Jun-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weird right?


[29-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just another way of being a really big enthusiast I guess


[29-Jun-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[29-Jun-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do enjoy fresh ramen


[29-Jun-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it can pretty much apply to any hobby as logn as it;s reached a peak of full shut in obsession


[29-Jun-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She just wants Japanese media to be more like the US


[29-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She doesn't get that people in the US still are like the otaku she hates


[29-Jun-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She loves Marvel so much but has never seen what Americans think about obsessed comic book nerds?


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d rather have japan;s enthusiasm for food. I hate america;s static food culture


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
America has a good food culture if you know where to look


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but the candy though


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also fresh ramen


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My point still stands


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[29-Jun-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of boutique candy makers


[29-Jun-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in rural farm ass no where, not a lot of inventive food culture out here


[29-Jun-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ironic given rural areas have a reputation for such things, but not out here i guess


[29-Jun-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mostly just wish compnaies would stop making limited edition flavors and start actually making permanent new flavors...


[29-Jun-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Here's a new thing you like, but fuck you it;s gone now and nevercoming back!"


[29-Jun-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just wish I could go to the store


[29-Jun-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And buy "salted" chips


[29-Jun-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But no


[29-Jun-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every brand has 6 varieties of bbq, picante, onion, nacho, vinegar, guacamole, etc


[29-Jun-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But no fucking "normal"


[29-Jun-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
On the plus side


[29-Jun-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It means I haven't eaten chips in like a year, and that was because I was in another damned country


[29-Jun-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
Of fuck yes


[29-Jun-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
Give me just origianl chips or doritos/nachos


[29-Jun-19 02:18 AM] ononim#8141
But no


[29-Jun-19 02:18 AM] ononim#8141
A hundred different "flavours"


[29-Jun-19 02:36 AM] ononim#8141
~~I mean I am partial to sour cream ones but what's it for the most part~~


[29-Jun-19 02:36 AM] ononim#8141
why didn't this one send with the rest lol


[29-Jun-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump madfe his own approval poll questionare

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[29-Jun-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and you cant vote negatively


[29-Jun-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/736362986/trump-wants-to-withdraw-deportation-protections-for-families-of-active-troop

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The Trump administration wants to scale back a provision that protects the undocumented spouses of military members currently deployed. Activists warn it could be highly disruptive.
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[29-Jun-19 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
trump can't handle criticism


[29-Jun-19 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
he's literally a child


[29-Jun-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately so


[29-Jun-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's attacking the families of active duty soldiers


[29-Jun-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he;s probably going to start attacking the officers themselves and calling them unpatriotic when they start defending their family members


[29-Jun-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently i've involved myself in an argument with Brazilian neo-crusaders on facebook


[29-Jun-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which are, like, comparable to mixing fried chicken with chantilly


[29-Jun-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They mocked me for calling the catholic church a sect and a mechanism of social control


[29-Jun-19 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Without offering any refutation whatsoever


[29-Jun-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's in the water people drink here


[29-Jun-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/404503819431579650?s=19

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Income inequality in America isn't just unethical or immoral; it is unsustainable. Anyone who has read Yertle the Turtle already knows this.
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[29-Jun-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the Democrats were like the Republicans she would be the candidate in 2020


[29-Jun-19 05:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds a lot like commie talk.🇺🇸


[29-Jun-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a6e205a8da914a59805ad01ff2925acd

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US judge blocks Indiana 2nd trimester abortion procedure ban
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — A federal judge blocked an Indiana law that would ban a second-trimester abortion procedure on Friday, just days before the law was set to come into force. The order...
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[29-Jun-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/06/28/new-trump-policies-could-end-in-deporations-for-some-active-duty-troops/

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New Trump policies could end in deportations for some active duty ...
Special immigration exceptions for service members and their families are being eliminated.
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[29-Jun-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/401b6cfd5b9c4a619851196410bc5814

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Putin fires new broadside against Western liberalism
OSAKA, Japan (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin fired a new broadside against Western liberalism on Saturday, saying that policies such as welcoming migrants have hurt people's...
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[29-Jun-19 04:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1144633016372928513?s=21

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[29-Jun-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/91f4e6ae14884880836dd5c54a59553b

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Judge bars Trump from using $2.5B to build border wall
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — A federal judge on Friday prohibited President Donald Trump from tapping $2.5 billion in military funding to build high-priority segments of his prized border wall in...
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[29-Jun-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b272711efd574d56ab99c24e8a870b77

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Congressman: Block evidence of trysts in corruption case
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lawyers for California Rep. Duncan Hunter want a federal judge to reject an attempt by prosecutors to introduce evidence that the congressman used campaign funds to finance a...
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[29-Jun-19 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
```He also charged that the influx of migrants to Europe has infringed on people’s rights. “People live in their own country, according to their own traditions, why should it happen to them?” Putin said.```


[29-Jun-19 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
Thanks Vova, very cool


[29-Jun-19 05:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-bot-twitter-birther_n_5d1692d1e4b07f6ca57d4fd8

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Chilling New Birtherism Slam Suddenly Surges Against Kamala Harris...
Racist tweets claim the senator doesn't represent American blacks because her dad's from Jamaica.
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[29-Jun-19 05:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which Don Jr. retweeted and then promptly deleted


[29-Jun-19 06:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not this again


[29-Jun-19 06:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
First it was Obama and Kenya


[29-Jun-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c2c6fdd5ac0c4ccaab11d1e151daf9c8

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Analysis: Trump's diplomacy puts relationships over results
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — For President Donald Trump, a four-day visit to Asia is shaping up to be more about relationships than results. In Japan for the Group of 20 summit, Trump notched...
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[29-Jun-19 07:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's trying to be a don and building a list of people he can call in favors with. Trouble is, he doesn't realize he's the one building a debt


[29-Jun-19 07:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I genuinely believe he believes he's coming out on top of all these talks


[29-Jun-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He thinks he;s running the mafia when he's actually one of the low rank mooks


[29-Jun-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/12c0389ada294c158ff1989bc7049cad

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DMZ diplomacy? Trump outreach to Kim for border rendezvous
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — President Donald Trump issued a Twitter invitation Saturday to North Korea's Kim Jong Un to meet for a handshake at the Demilitarized Zone that separates the North and...
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[29-Jun-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please let them both step on a landmine


[29-Jun-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-news-latest-g20-climate-change-global-warming-us-japan-a8980156.html

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Trump says no action is needed on climate change because US has ...
‘It doesn’t always work with a windmill,’ says US president as he rejects green energy
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[29-Jun-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he;s bragging about us having clean air and water...


[29-Jun-19 07:43 PM] Mikey#7286
What a fucking moron


[29-Jun-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please someone at the g20 just shoot him for us


[29-Jun-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-19 08:07 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmfaooooo


[29-Jun-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/28/hottest-day-history-france-world-told-do-not-look-away-police-tear-gas-climate

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On 'Hottest Day in History of France,' World Told 'Do Not Look Awa...
"Watch this video and ask yourself," said Greta Thunberg, "who is defending who?"
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[29-Jun-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1144761147868008448

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Online trolls worked, with apparent success, to skew post-Democratic debate online polls in favor of dark-horse candidates such as Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang. And major news outlets took the bait, showing how vulnerable are to manipulation. https://t.co/xNC1TsXTH0
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[29-Jun-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just heard gun control compared to CPS taking your child away...


[29-Jun-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the second most incredible thing I've heard a gun owner say


[29-Jun-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is the first?


[29-Jun-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That cutting in line should be justifiable homicide


[29-Jun-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even a big deal, like I guess someone cuts in front of you and you shoot then in the back of the head and move their body aside


[29-Jun-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what he wanted


[29-Jun-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
geeze


[30-Jun-19 12:19 AM] Mikey#7286
What the fuck


[30-Jun-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either i;ve been authorized by submods on reddit or r/iamatotalpieceofshit is back


[30-Jun-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/new/

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[30-Jun-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Mikey don't know what was up with him


[30-Jun-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is some fucked uppriorities if line cutting is death worthy...


[30-Jun-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be simpler just to push the cutter out of the line and scold thme to the bakc of it


[30-Jun-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
when all you have is a hammer...


[30-Jun-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
hammer your balls


[30-Jun-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
make america infertile again


[30-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was also religious so that's a bad combo


[30-Jun-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also wanted dueling back and thought liars should die


[30-Jun-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you talking about Drinky


[30-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because that sounds like Drinky


[30-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly no


[30-Jun-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
mfw there's more than one drinky


[30-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, aside from hillbe


[30-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But he was just... I don't even know tbh


[30-Jun-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah this guy was a walking argument for gun control


[30-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the mentally ill shouldn't own them


[30-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"MENTALLY ILL"


[30-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NICE ABLEISM


[30-Jun-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NICE DENYING THE OPPRESSED A MEANS TO DEFFEND THEMSELVES


[30-Jun-19 02:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
How can someone be more opressed than Gamers™


[30-Jun-19 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/methodist-hospital-sues-low-wage-workers-medical-debt

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[30-Jun-19 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
"Low-Wage Workers Are Being Sued for Unpaid Medical Bills by a Nonprofit Christian Hospital That Employs Them"

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[30-Jun-19 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*this is america*


[30-Jun-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Jun-19 05:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
American Christians™ are a different breed of Christian


[30-Jun-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
talibama is my favorite term for them


[30-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734591147/new-alabama-law-permits-church-to-hire-its-own-police-force

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New Alabama Law Permits Church To Hire Its Own Police Force
A mega-church says it needs its own police for security. Critics say the law will grant state authority to church officials and is unconstitutional, violating the separation of church and state.
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[30-Jun-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's a mash-up of taliban and alabama


[30-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What a roundabout way of creating slaves


[30-Jun-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
force them to use your expensive medical care and garnish their wages


[30-Jun-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Y'alliban


[30-Jun-19 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just waiting for Christians in Alabama to demand some Indian religious artifact gets blown up


[30-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or when they try to prevent pregnant women from flying because they might be flying to get an abortion


[30-Jun-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, the law would be "travel to another state with intent to commit fetal homicide"


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that one of the anti-abortion laws already does this


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind I think there will be a major suburban/urban voting revolt within at least the next decade


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As someone who has lived in either urban or suburban America


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're pissed rural areas run everything


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suburbs are just becoming liberal


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural areas are dying


[30-Jun-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Trump has accelerated this


[30-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
there will be no revolt because there will be nobody to revolt against


[30-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump gutted the Dept. of Agriculture


[30-Jun-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
that means that much of rural America will be deserted in like 40 years


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gutting the DoA is a neoliberal dream


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it means no more "handouts" to hard-working farmers


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dust Bowl 2.0 when


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of a low-interest loan


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
they get a predatory loan


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We've already given them 16 billion


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and go bankrupt


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just relief aid, Its


[30-Jun-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
supplementing directly lost income


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
gutting the DoA prevents expansion of income


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
makes them reliant on things going well


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I keep telling people that refugees from rural areas will happen


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tariff relief aid is to make it APPEAR that everything is fine


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
when in fact it won't be


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because farms become deserts


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without constantly loaning to rural areas


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
those areas will lose their economic bakkbone


[30-Jun-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Urban areas can survive without rural America


[30-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 40 years there won't be any farmers in America.


[30-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The inverse is not true


[30-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will be farming drones.


[30-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Rural" will just mean "suburban"


[30-Jun-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In Texas now you need like two dozen guys to handle thousands of acres


[30-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I went to a rural area, there were just lots of old houses built in the 60s and no tall buildings" etc.


[30-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural Missouri is just like that holy shit


[30-Jun-19 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On the highways lots of abandoned service stations in Googie style


[30-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And no tell motels


[30-Jun-19 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like the Civil rights movement never happened


[30-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the idea, but like


[30-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
in 40 years


[30-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
those areas will be saying that it's okay to be blakk and gay


[30-Jun-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just will suddenly get mad the moment a blakk guy tries to move in


[30-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they'll insist in the abstract that racism should be stopped


[30-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've been to rural areas where there's one or two black families


[30-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they've been there for generations


[30-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like since the 1910s


[30-Jun-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they personally won't hav ever seen a blakk guy and don't think their passive-aggressiveness counts.


[30-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will simultaneously say confederate monuments don't belonge


[30-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also that the confederacy didn't fight for slavery


[30-Jun-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll say that civil rights were important but that we shouldn't allow African immigration


[30-Jun-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
`No no, the law would be "travel to another state with intent to commit fetal homicide"` I know that we don't live in a country with laws anymore but isn't this unconstitutional to enforce


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be arrested in State A for trying to travel to State B to commit homicide


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if it's under State A's definition


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
that makes absolutely no sense


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and with State A's troopers only


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes it's a serious problem


[30-Jun-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
normally the laws are in sync and intent doesn't carry to random crap that varies


[30-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now it's more than just random crap that varies


[30-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
now states vary a ton on which drugs are outlawed, and of course abortion


[30-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is only a matter of time before people are arrested to attempt to enter other states to commit crimes that aren't crimes in said states


[30-Jun-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw byte


[30-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
under US age of consent law


[30-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is illegal to travel to another state to hav sex with someone under 18


[30-Jun-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
without any regard to the age of consent in that particular state.


[30-Jun-19 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
that's federal


[30-Jun-19 06:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/141a6d202dac4c4480200957c4fe86ac

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[30-Jun-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may be federal, but it sets a precedent.


[30-Jun-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember, the only real difference between a federal law applying vs. a state law is where you are.


[30-Jun-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a federal law can make it illegal, and it's not a power reserved for the federal gov't, a state law can make it illegal


[30-Jun-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it is not a power reserved for the federal gov't.


[30-Jun-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any state can thus make it illegal to travel to another state to do X


[30-Jun-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in due time, many states will hav that for abortions.


[30-Jun-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and pot)


[30-Jun-19 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not for pot when a certain group gets convinced it just needs to get treated as booze does


[30-Jun-19 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Abortions though yeah


[30-Jun-19 08:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Jun-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump be like: WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT A DICTATOR?

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[30-Jun-19 01:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/charges-dropped-for-119-people-after-cop-caught-on-video-planting-meth-on-innocent-grandma/

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Charges Dropped for 119 People After Cop Caught on Video Planting ...
A single cop framed dozens of innocent people and once a state attorney found the body camera footage from the arrests, the victims were vindicated.
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[30-Jun-19 01:10 PM] ononim#8141
```Jackson County, FL — Dozens of innocent people who were rotting in jail have been freed and their charges erased after the corrupt cop who put them there was caught on his own body camera planting meth on an innocent mother. Jackson County Sheriff’s Deputy Zachary Wester has since been fired and a slew of lawsuits are now rolling in.

Wester’s fall from law enforcement grace and the 119 people who were exonerated are due largely in part to the diligence of a single person, assistant state attorney at the 14th Judicial Circuit, Christina Pumphrey.```


[30-Jun-19 01:10 PM] ononim#8141
```After Pumphrey began to raise red flags in her department pointing out videos like Odom’s, she says the system began to go after her.

As The Appeal reports:

    Internally, however, Pumphrey said the chief assistant state attorney, Larry Basford, chastised her for sharing the videos with the sheriff’s office. “He starts yelling over the phone. What was I doing looking through all the videos? Why in the world did I find the Teresa Odom video? Why was I looking for it? And just having an absolute fit.” Basford did not respond to comment on Pumphrey’s characterization of this conversation. Pumphrey turned in her resignation the following day. She filed a whistleblower complaint, but later dropped it because she said she didn’t want it to affect her ability to represent her clients at her new state job in public defense at the Office of Criminal Conflict and Civil Regional Counsel for the First DCA Region of Florida.```


[30-Jun-19 01:10 PM] ononim#8141
```Although Wester was fired after Pumphrey exposed him, the state has yet to bring any charges against him, claiming they are still looking into it.```


[30-Jun-19 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
ugh tftp


[30-Jun-19 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
this article is cribbed from https://theappeal.org/floridians-are-suing-a-cop-fired-for-planting-drugs-in-their-vehicles/

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Floridians Are Suing a Cop Fired for Planting Drugs in Their Vehicles
Thanks to the diligence of one assistant state attorney, 119 cases were thrown out and the officer is under state investigation.
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[30-Jun-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa/after-surprise-trump-kim-meeting-u-s-and-north-korea-to-reopen-talks-idUSKCN1TV00R it begins again

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After surprise Trump-Kim meeting, U.S. and North Korea to reopen talks
U.S. President Donald Trump became the first sitting U.S. president to set foot ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190630&t=2&i=1402985355&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5T0AR


[30-Jun-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alas they did not step on a landmine


[30-Jun-19 03:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
metaphorically, he sure did, though


[30-Jun-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yeah, but i wanted it to be literal


[30-Jun-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still, Trump isn;t going to get anywhere, this is yet another round of having friendly talks to get your country some much needed attention, and thne fake anger with him when you no longer need the attention any more


[30-Jun-19 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Jun-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So... what's with the small faces?


[30-Jun-19 08:15 PM] ononim#8141
Charlie Kirk has a relativelly smal face and because he was displaying prominently on a lot of TPUSA images people noticed it, afaik


[30-Jun-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
apparently charlie kirk has a tiny face


[30-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1095532385926631424/ODX2AmEZ.jpg

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[30-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
this is his twitter profile picture


[30-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-Jun-19 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
this is his meme tiny face


[30-Jun-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/fake-biden-campaign-website-being-run-secretly-trump-campaign-operative-report-1446693?amp=1

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A fake Joe Biden campaign site is being run secretly by a Trump ca...
Only a tiny disclaimer at the bottom of the site reveals its purpose as a form of "entertainment and political commentary."
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[30-Jun-19 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Supporting Biden to make sure Bernie isn't up against Trump.


[30-Jun-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hypocrisy to care about hair sniffing when you have a president who is just as shitty around women.


[30-Jun-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-Jun-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't care


[30-Jun-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they know dem voters allegedly do


[30-Jun-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why Warren will get the nom


[30-Jun-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All he has against her is the Pocahontas thing


[30-Jun-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo fucking hoo she gamed the system to get ahead


[30-Jun-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like Trump did


[30-Jun-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She is objectively part Indian


[30-Jun-19 09:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
two wrongs don't make a right


[30-Jun-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
True, you have to make three


[30-Jun-19 09:47 PM] ISamusI#5581
That’s called an orgy


[30-Jun-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's nothing to go against her with but that


[30-Jun-19 10:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Smelling hair and giving hugs is worse than grabbing pussy.


[30-Jun-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the difference between the drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who is creepy but tolerable and the one that's in jail


[30-Jun-19 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
*should be in jail, but instead is the town mayor


[30-Jun-19 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/30/politics/stephanie-grisham-north-korea-scuffle/index.html

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Stephanie Grisham bruised in 'an all out brawl' with the North Koreans
The new White House press secretary, Stephanie Grisham, got into a scuffle with North Korean officials on Sunday during a chaotic scene outside a meeting room where US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un talked privately.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190630045131-trump-dmz-sc-07-super-tease.jpg


[30-Jun-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fun first week on the job


[01-Jul-19 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking you think that but Biden will get it


[01-Jul-19 12:29 AM] Mikey#7286
Watch


[01-Jul-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Likeability was the reason Clinton lost


[01-Jul-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's likable


[01-Jul-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden/Warren would win


[01-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or else Warren/Sanders


[01-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Mikey#7286
And then Trump gets reelected


[01-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Realistically they'll shove Pete in there somewhere maybe


[01-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The left is super mobilized and suburbs are super blue now


[01-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump's focus on his base is misplaced


[01-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He won because of Obama voters


[01-Jul-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who will bite Bidens "normalcy" campaign


[01-Jul-19 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Perhaps


[01-Jul-19 12:33 AM] Mikey#7286
The campaign is just starting


[01-Jul-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only question is whether Warren can be shitty enuff to win over racist old fukks


[01-Jul-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without hampering her base of only-slightly-racist younger college grads


[01-Jul-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
While making them reject Biden en masse.


[01-Jul-19 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Just over a year


[01-Jul-19 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Maybe


[01-Jul-19 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
We'll see


[01-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely Warren will be too good, blakks and racists go for Biden as a lovely racial compromise middle ground who won't stoke fires


[01-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully there'll be enuff of a push for him to put Warren as his VP


[01-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to how Pence works as a bone thrown to religious nuts.


[01-Jul-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(who would've otherwise potentially seen Trump as too much of a sinner who might not be loyal)


[01-Jul-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel like religious nuts don't care


[01-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do, just enuff.


[01-Jul-19 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
[x] doubt


[01-Jul-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's a toss up, a fuck ton of religious conservatives are basically annoying vegan equivalents if that makes any sense, They aren't in it for the morals and diet, They're in it for the moral superiority complex that coems from just exclaiming their christian and using it as an excuse to brandish things they don't liek as sins against god. They would probably vote for anyone conservative enough just because it's bragging rights and a party line that gives them a foe to attack and claim superiority against.


[01-Jul-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mind you, this doesn;t apply to every single religious conservative, it just applies to enough of them that results can vary stupidly


[01-Jul-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The bigger problem with Biden is that he;s a status quo type politician, He won;t change anything significantly, or try to fix anything that his donors don;t want fixed. He vows to fight Trumps mess, but when it comes down to it, he likely won;t actually do anything other than trying to mend some relationships, and piggy back on Obama era policies because it makes him look good.


[01-Jul-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue is Trump has utterly shattered the status quo he stood for


[01-Jul-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden might have worked as a 2016 candidate, he wouldn;t have been great but if he had beat trump it would have been 4 more years of relative obama era policy continuing while things got worse in a much more subtle manner


[01-Jul-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But the era of subtly worsening conditions is over and we;ve been thrust head first into a brick fucking wall


[01-Jul-19 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c1b8b101eebd4e3a891fc2616508c7a5

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Navy SEAL trial exposes divide in normally secretive force
SAN DIEGO (AP) — It was called the "The Sewing Circle," an unlikely name for a secret subsect of Navy SEALs. Its purpose was even more improbable: A chat forum to discuss alleged war crimes they...
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[01-Jul-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7c35be606b9c4439911999b8d1397233

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US officials attend opening at controversial Jerusalem dig
JERUSALEM (AP) — American officials looked on Sunday as Israel opened a newfound Roman-era street at a divisive archaeological site in east Jerusalem, a move that deepened Palestinian animosity...
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[01-Jul-19 12:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-north-korea-donald-trump-fox-kim-joing-un-kill-people-a8981621.html

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Fox host Tucker Carlson defends North Korean regime: 'Leading a co...
‘In the end what matters is what’s good for the United States,’ says controversial pundit
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[01-Jul-19 12:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Running a country means killing people. 🔫


[01-Jul-19 02:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/01/japan-resumes-commercial-whaling-for-first-time-in-30-years

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Japan resumes commercial whaling for first time in 30 years
Fishermen set sail to hunt whales on Monday after country’s withdrawal from International Whaling Commission
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[01-Jul-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, fox news said it;s ok so chances are Trump will think it;s ok to kill people too


[01-Jul-19 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jul-19 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jul-19 04:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, Woody getting anal is such a recurrent issue in our society. It's upsetting.


[01-Jul-19 06:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit's getting heated in Hong Kong


[01-Jul-19 06:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately this will just lead to shit getting worse, of course


[01-Jul-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2019/0520/Europe-s-sanctuary-movement-Why-churches-enter-immigration-debate

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Europe’s sanctuary movement: Why churches enter immigration debate
Churches step in to protect asylum-seekers from being deported, embroiling themselves in Europe’s fraught immigration debate.
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[01-Jul-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.dw.com/en/german-authorities-rejected-almost-all-2019-church-asylum-cases/a-49111674

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The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) turned down most of the church asylum cases in the first four months of 2019, according to media reports. Humanitarian groups have criticized the rejections as harsh.
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[01-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians, concerned about Muslims destroying Christianity, are now going after the last institutions capable of slowing down the assault on human rights: Christian churches


[01-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never about religion.


[01-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's always been about race.


[01-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the churches get in their way, they will destroy the churches.


[01-Jul-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in the end, fascism has no allies.


[01-Jul-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only enemies, and future enemies.


[01-Jul-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/451168-new-study-suggests-Trump-2016-poll-numbers-rose-after-increased-Russian-troll-farm-tweets?

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The Russian troll farms that carried out a sophisticated disinformation campaign on U.S.
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[01-Jul-19 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28783/errant-syrian-missile-flies-over-mediterranean-and-crashes-onto-island-of-cyrpus

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Errant Syrian Missile Flies Over Mediterranean And Crashes Onto Is...
The missile landed hundreds of miles away in Cyprus during a flurry of Israeli air strikes on targets within Syria.
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[01-Jul-19 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Northern Cyprus is a majority Muslim area. Coincidence?


[01-Jul-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
No it's because it's a turkish puppet


[01-Jul-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
~~as in probably~~


[01-Jul-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jul-19 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[02-Jul-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Mikey#7286
Americans are dumb


[02-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Mikey#7286
I'd know


[02-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm one

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[02-Jul-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jul-19 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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FACT CHECK: it is technically true that Bill Gates has many hundreds of thousands of times more money than you. But this fact is not especially meaningful, because you are nothing, less than nothing, lower than an ant; the mere comparison is insulting to Mr Gates
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[02-Jul-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like comparing the healthy parts of two giant apple planets to a small field of rotten apples.


[02-Jul-19 03:59 AM] ononim#8141
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- Obrigado pela homenagem anime! Nota 10! 👍
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[02-Jul-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes

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Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke A...
The three-year-old group, which has roughly 9,500 members, shared derogatory comments about Latina lawmakers who plan to visit a controversial Texas detention facility on Monday, calling them “scum buckets” and “hoes.”
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[02-Jul-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jul-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
This is from the Border Patrol


[02-Jul-19 04:19 AM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[02-Jul-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/325e0115b2904fb4b0eafe220376455d

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Border Patrol head condemns agents' offensive Facebook posts
CLINT, Texas (AP) — The head of the U.S. Border Patrol on Monday slammed as "completely inappropriate" sexually explicit posts about U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and comments questioning the...
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[02-Jul-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3e2d08074a4f4256ba6ee379cdb168f7

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Iran breaches uranium stockpile limit set by nuclear deal
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran has broken the limit set on its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by its 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, international inspectors and Tehran said Monday, marking its...
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[02-Jul-19 06:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/us-border-patrol-migrant-camp-from-above-idUSRTS2HV7C

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U.S. Border Patrol migrant camp from above | Pictures | Reuters
Migrants are seen outside the U.S. Border Patrol McAllen Station in a makeshift encampment in McAllen, Texas, May 15, 2019. Adults and children slept on the ground and rigged up makeshift awnings with
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[02-Jul-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poll Tax. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/us/florida-felons-voting-rights.html

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Florida Limits Ex-Felon Voting, Prompting a Lawsuit and Cries of ...
Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into law a requirement that ex-felons pay back fines and fees before they can register to vote. The A.C.L.U. promptly sued.
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[02-Jul-19 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here we go again...


[02-Jul-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
I like how they're suddenly okay with felon voting now that it's been allowed


[02-Jul-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
they just want to highly regulate it for no fucking reason


[02-Jul-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
are there governor recalls in florida?


[02-Jul-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[02-Jul-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
recalls should be a thing everywhere tbh


[02-Jul-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
you should be able to have a refund policy on your shitty politician when they aren't doing the job you elected them to do


[02-Jul-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
*stares at oregon*


[02-Jul-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're implying conservative voters want democracy.


[02-Jul-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a damn whether their politicians show up to the legislature or not, their only concern is maintaining white control.


[02-Jul-19 09:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's crazy how different, and yet how similar, the situations are in Portland vs. Salem


[02-Jul-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-expansion-contrasts/rich-get-richer-everyone-else-not-so-much-in-record-u-s-expansion-idUSKCN1TX0HE

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Rich get richer, everyone else not so much in record U.S. expansion
Last month Pink Floyd frontman David Gilmour sold his guitar collection for $21....


[02-Jul-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, most of the country is in the 2008 recession, but the rich people are in a boom.


[02-Jul-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take "French Revolution" for 400, Alex


[02-Jul-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for WW3? https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Sanctuary_District

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Sanctuary District
"It's the only way to keep those "people" off the streets."– San Francisco resident, 2024 ("Past Tense, Part I ") A Sanctuary District was a section of a city designated for the homeless and...
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[02-Jul-19 07:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48783253

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India women's heads shaved for resisting rape
A group of men assaulted the mother and daughter and shaved their heads, police in Bihar state say.
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[02-Jul-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/sen-warren-calls-on-ex-fda-chief-gottlieb-to-resign-from-pfizer-board.html

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren calls on ex-FDA chief Gottlieb to resign fro...
"This kind of revolving door influence-peddling smacks of corruption, and makes the American people rightly cynical and distrustful about whether high-level Trump administration officials are working for them, or for their future corporate employers," Warren said in a July 1 ...
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[02-Jul-19 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/07/01/devotion-chinese-publisher-indievent-lose-business-license/

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Chinese publisher Indievent lose their business license after Devo...
The tragic tale of Red Candle’s horror game Devotion only gets sadder. Originally pulled from stores after it was discovered to contain a joking comparison between Winnie The Pooh and Chinese president (and Winnie The Pooh lookalike) Xi Jinping. Now it appears it has cost i...
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[02-Jul-19 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-01/ocasio-cortez-says-detained-migrants-told-to-drink-toilet-water


[02-Jul-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.salon.com/2019/05/30/despite-muellers-warning-mcconnell-blocks-bipartisan-election-security-bills/

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Despite Mueller's warning, McConnell blocks bipartisan election se...
The FBI and many Republicans want Congress to pass bills protecting the 2020 election. Mitch wants none of it
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[02-Jul-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/trump-taxes-lawsuit.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/trump-taxes-lawsuit.html
House Files Lawsuit Seeking Disclosure of Trump Tax Returns
Lawmakers are escalating a fight by moving the dispute into the federal courts, which will probably determine whether the president’s tax returns will be seen by Congress and the public.
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[02-Jul-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think that there is way too much ability for the executive to impede congress.


[02-Jul-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
This shit should've been resolved last month.


[02-Jul-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fb8e33e7d1eb466aaaa43ed0baf40995

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Congressman shares video of migrants held at border facility
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Texas congressman says he released video and photos of migrant women being held at a border facility in his state so the public could better understand "awful" conditions under...
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[02-Jul-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the executive branch needs a severe neutering


[02-Jul-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has started marking all over the furniture as it were


[02-Jul-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, started is a bit of an understatement, the furniture is drenched at this point


[02-Jul-19 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48842428

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Trump orders tanks for Independence Day parade
He promises a "special" event, but critics liken it to military parades by authoritarian regimes.
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[02-Jul-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
Modern mil techn parades are so...


[02-Jul-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
FUCJ


[02-Jul-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
I FORGOT THE WORDA AGAIN


[02-Jul-19 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
unnecessary?


[02-Jul-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
hhhhh unnecessary?


[02-Jul-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
IO mean yeah


[02-Jul-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
But I feel there's a better word


[02-Jul-19 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
micropenis mentality exposing?


[02-Jul-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
And like this is from lenses of someone to whom mil parades on VIctory day were a normal thing till you realize Gov justs uses the image of "Victory" for cheap patriotism and nationalism rise


[02-Jul-19 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain has them every year


[02-Jul-19 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's basically a "hey, remember we actually have an army of sorts, and also a king"


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No one really cares about them, except I guess the sort that get tattoos of "viva la muerte" on them and shit


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
Like I wish it was just military used in war plus uniform of the time regiments marching solely to commemorate those who fell and whose who fought who are still with us, plus maybe an air show if you want it so much


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
But


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
Knowing our gov


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's dickwaving


[02-Jul-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
that's not gonna happen


[02-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Except in front of a mirror


[02-Jul-19 08:38 PM] ononim#8141
I wonder which colappses first climate and civilisation or russian gov


[02-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because no one outside of the country cares


[02-Jul-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely wont pay anything if the tanks damage the city either... yay more tax payer bullshit


[02-Jul-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/1145832466046967813

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Jesus Christ. https://t.co/XxCHooVOX1
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[02-Jul-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, do you believe Trump's tank parade could end in disaster?


[02-Jul-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will end in massive infrustructure damage yes


[02-Jul-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our roads and bridges were not built with tanks in mind


[02-Jul-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially at their current budget of nothing dollars


[02-Jul-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our roads can barely handle semi trucks much less the far denser and probably much heavier tanks


[02-Jul-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-bcvXXWkAA3J9G.jpg:large

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[02-Jul-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/14SnhzO

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"'I don't know why Jon Stewart is all bent out of shape over 9/11 victims' fund" -Mitch McConnell in an interview to Fox and Friends
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[02-Jul-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he doesn't. mitch mcconnell is a dried shriveled husk of a human with no soul to speak of


[03-Jul-19 12:26 AM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Jul-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b9e02720dea14309b1152953e72b1a5a

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Trump Facebook ads use models to portray actual supporters
NEW YORK (AP) — A series of Facebook video ads for President Donald Trump's re-election campaign shows what appears to be a young woman strolling on a beach in Florida, a Hispanic man on a city...
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[03-Jul-19 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, that's the least shocking headline I've read regarding the campaign so far


[03-Jul-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, pretty much every one of those types of ads uses paid actors/actresses to pretend to be real supporters


[03-Jul-19 01:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unrelated question that gets back to the thing about McConnell earlier... exactly how much legislation has that guy blocked since Obama took office, and how much of *that* is legislation that the house passed their version of the bill


[03-Jul-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/trump-census-citizenship-question.html

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2020 Census Won’t Have Citizenship Question as Trump Administrat...
A Supreme Court decision last week had temporarily blocked the administration’s effort.
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[03-Jul-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
>The Trump administration said Tuesday that it had ordered the Census Bureau to start printing forms for the 2020 census without a question asking about citizenship, abandoning its quest to add the query after being blocked last week by the Supreme Court.


[03-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
I think the heat from that "gerrymandering guru" dude is getting too hot for the white house


[03-Jul-19 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Aren't they also past the deadline on printing the census in the first place? Like, it was supposed to be *done* by yesterday?


[03-Jul-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/01/harris-warren-debate-poll-1392964

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Biden plummets, Harris vaults to second in major poll
The California senator slid into second place in a new national poll from CNN, with Joe Biden still leading.
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[03-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
>Kamala Harris has rocketed into the top tier of the Democratic presidential primary, while Joe Biden’s once double-digit lead has crumbled in a national poll taken after last week’s debate.


[03-Jul-19 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeeeep


[03-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
since honkahue's not around, reminder that kamala harris is a cop


[03-Jul-19 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It would be *really great* if Biden just...stopped


[03-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/fbi-investigates-glitter-bombing-straight-pride-parade-organizers-n1025851

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FBI investigates 'glitter bombing' of Straight Pride Parade organizers
“It’s perfectly natural to celebrate heterosexuality,” Samson Racioppi, one of the Boston event’s organizers, told NBC News.
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[03-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
um


[03-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
why?


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
>The FBI has confirmed that an investigation has been launched after three members of Super Happy Fun America, the organization behind Boston’s upcoming Straight Pride Parade, were sent glitter-filled envelopes in the mail this week.


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
this is a somewhat common prank


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
and it's being treated like a terror threat


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's really the best name they could come up with, huh


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
granted, glitter bombing itself is dumb


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
and potentially harmful


[03-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
if it gets in your lungs


[03-Jul-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
but it's not worth opening an FBI investigation, unless they plan to stop all glitter bombings ever


[03-Jul-19 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suspect, without reading the article, that the addresses of the glittered individuals were not readily accessible through the organization


[03-Jul-19 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if this were being investigated as a doxxing attack in additon to the prank itself, then *maybe*


[03-Jul-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
>After Racioppi alerted the authorities, bomb squads were sent to the Massachusetts towns of Woburn, Salisbury and Malden. Hugo, who called the mailings an “act of domestic terrorism,” said he had also alerted conservative firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos, the grand marshal of the upcoming Straight Pride Parade, though it does not appear Yiannopoulos was sent a glitter-filled mailing.


[03-Jul-19 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay yeah that's...overkill


[03-Jul-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
>Hugo, however, maintains he still doesn’t know what the contents of the envelope are. “Even if it’s just baby powder,” he added, “I want to see this person prosecuted.”


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
>The Straight Pride Parade was first announced in early June, at the beginning of LGBTQ Pride month, to great controversy. Actor Brad Pitt threatened legal action after Super Happy Fun America used his picture and advertised him as the parade’s mascot without his permission.


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but then again, this is Boston, the town that called in the bomb squad for ATHF led signs, and in recent years had an actual bomb make nationwide news


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
these people are just massive fucking assholes


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
pretending like they're being victimized


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
>Boston Mayor Marty Walsh has criticized the event, though he stated that the city cannot deny permits based on personal beliefs.


[03-Jul-19 01:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, fair


[03-Jul-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d903529c0c3e4bb29f6fe0ce130805f6

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Files from dead mapmaker focus of NC redistricting hearing
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Documents recovered from the house of a deceased Republican mapmaker that are part of a partisan gerrymandering lawsuit in North Carolina shouldn't be used in this month's...
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[03-Jul-19 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, because highly detailed spreadsheets and maps, dating back years, and accurately time-stamped, representing hundreds of man-hours of work, spontaneously appeared on his computer the afternoon his daughter went over to have a look


[03-Jul-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also wasn't their argument that this guy liked to make these "in his free time," for fun? As in, they've already given the point to veracity before this?


[03-Jul-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[03-Jul-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their first defense was "We didn;t ask him to make those and he didn;t make them for us, he made them on his own time and has no association with us"


[03-Jul-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
followed swiftly by trying to sue her for custody of the drives so they could dismantle and destroy the evidence


[03-Jul-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that failed so she and the courts still have them in evidence


[03-Jul-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any excuse.


[03-Jul-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, HURDLE THE TURTLE


[03-Jul-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
HURDLE. THE. TURTLE.


[03-Jul-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
off the empire state building?


[03-Jul-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is there a taller building in america to toss him off of?


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I heard Trump tower is 50 - no, 60 - stories tall :P


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hurdle actually means to put hurdles around


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
hurtle is throw rapidly


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we hurtle him too?


[03-Jul-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[03-Jul-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
defenestration


[03-Jul-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll win despite being unpopular.


[03-Jul-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or we'll get him OR Graham out


[03-Jul-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Collins is basically already done 16 months out.


[03-Jul-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Her party fucking hates her and she's unpopular.


[03-Jul-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
My worry is dems won't even put up a good candidate against Mitch, then he dies within a year, then the special election puts in Mitch 2.0, who's more popular but more obstructionist somehow.


[03-Jul-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/jul/02/trump-news-today-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-migrant-detention-camps-2020--latest-updates

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Meanwhile, Trump administration confirms 2020 census questionnaire will be printed without questions regarding citizenship status
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[03-Jul-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5a157e8bcbc3487e8c08348bede3e1ed

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Judge blocks Trump policy keeping asylum-seekers locked up
SEATTLE (AP) — A federal judge in Seattle on Tuesday blocked a Trump administration policy that would keep thousands of asylum-seekers locked up while they pursue their cases, saying the...
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[03-Jul-19 12:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1627919001


[03-Jul-19 12:18 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[03-Jul-19 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[03-Jul-19 12:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/02/adidas-under-fire-racist-offensive-tweets-arsenal-new-shirt-launch

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Adidas under fire for racist tweets after botched Arsenal launch
Company automatically posted pictures of new shirts with offensive Twitter handles on back
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[03-Jul-19 02:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of that anti choice group that decided auto posting comments collected from their site to Twitter with no moderation was a good idea


[03-Jul-19 02:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Jul-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/nyregion/judge-james-troiano-rape.html "she's not my type"

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Teenager Accused of Rape Deserves Leniency Because He’s From a ...
The family court judge also said the victim should have been told that pressing charges would destroy the accused’s life.
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[03-Jul-19 03:19 PM] byte[]#2610
TW: ||>The boy filmed himself penetrating her from behind, her torso exposed, her head hanging down, prosecutors said. He later shared the cellphone video among friends, investigators said, and sent a text that said, “When your first time having sex was rape.”||


[03-Jul-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/055efbe3e0794a1c80c0c2c81e9db8ff

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Putin signs bill suspending participation in nuclear treaty
MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill suspending Russia's participation in a pivotal nuclear arms treaty. Putin's decree released on Wednesday formalizes Russia's...
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[03-Jul-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill suspending Russia’s participation in a pivotal nuclear arms treaty.

Putin’s decree released on Wednesday formalizes Russia’s departure from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty with the United States following Washington’s withdrawal from the pact.

The U.S. gave notice of its intention to withdraw from the INF in February, setting the stage for it to terminate in six months unless Moscow returns to compliance. Russia has denied any breaches, and accused the U.S. of violating the pact. Moscow followed Washington’s example in February, also suspending its obligations under the treaty.

Putin has warned the U.S. against deploying new missiles in Europe, saying that Russia will retaliate by fielding new fast weapons that will take just as little time to reach their targets.


[03-Jul-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1de36a018ff84c698ce2748aaf2daa2d

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Italian socialist Sassoli to be president of EU Parliament
BRUSSELS (AP) — Italian socialist David-Maria Sassoli was elected Wednesday to head the European parliament, completing the bloc's drawn-out and at times acrimonious appointment process for its...
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[03-Jul-19 04:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/disney-quietly-removes-casting-couch-blooper-from-toy-story-2-074802667.html

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Disney quietly removes 'casting couch' blooper from 'Toy Story 2'
Disney appears to have removed the 'blooper scene' from the closing credits of Toy Story 2.
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[03-Jul-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's dumb


[03-Jul-19 04:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't know they put Lasseter himself in Toy Story 2


[03-Jul-19 04:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit it may be an in joke about it


[03-Jul-19 04:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> nuclear treaty
What time is it now? On ||doomsday clock||.


[03-Jul-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably 11:59


[03-Jul-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2d9039d367944e808598cfa346fc599b

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Oregon Democrats have supermajority, but learned its limits
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — When Democrats won a supermajority in the Oregon Legislature last November, it seemed they had a clear path ahead to combat global warming, enact gun control and pursue other...
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[03-Jul-19 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9a1fel11d3831.png

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[03-Jul-19 05:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~Which one is Aryanne~~


[03-Jul-19 05:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also the one on the right is doing it wrong you're supposed to keep your fingers closed for fucks sake it's been like 50 years how do you still get this wrong 0/10 drop my class immedieately


[03-Jul-19 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, the girl on the right just looks like she's imitating Guy Fieri


[03-Jul-19 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just noticed there's a fine line between nazi and Guy Fieri now :caddy:


[03-Jul-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/75df5e7bf56e43df99d091bc4d16a87d

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In Trump aid package for farmers, many blow past caps
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — When President Donald Trump's administration announced a $12 billion aid package for farmers struggling under the financial strain of his trade dispute with China, the payments...
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[03-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
😂 💸


[03-Jul-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/72cd54bb267f497697c2d54f207462ad

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Rouhani: Iran will enrich uranium to 'any amount we want'
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's president warned European partners in its faltering nuclear deal on Wednesday that Tehran will increase its enrichment of uranium to "any amount that we want" beginning...
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[03-Jul-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh 
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1146435093491277824?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1146435093491277824?s=21
The News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE! We are absolutely moving forward, as we must, because of the importance of the answer to this question.
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[03-Jul-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/03/nra-guns-trump-campaign-1395970

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NRA meltdown has Trump campaign sweating
Republicans worry that the NRA and two other groups that have long formed the core of their electoral infrastructure will be effectively on the sidelines.
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[03-Jul-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh


[03-Jul-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah too bad the census already went out without the question on it


[03-Jul-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the NRA, and other significant repiublican doners are being battered left and right by their horrendous choices, and the koche brothers are jsut abandoning the republican politicians because they've outlived their usefulness


[03-Jul-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9DU_W2XkAAfSnZ.jpg:large

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[03-Jul-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
>Sharia Law & a Godless nation
>Sharia Law
>Godless nation


[03-Jul-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141

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[03-Jul-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knwo, those athiest shariahs


[03-Jul-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that totally exist


[03-Jul-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you follow the word of the no god or you lose your hands


[03-Jul-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
helping your neighbors is a sin btw, jesus said so himself!


[03-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/07/02/soros-and-koch-team-up-n2549334

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George Soros and Charles Koch Have Teamed Up to Form a Think Tank
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[03-Jul-19 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they did


[03-Jul-19 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know what this means.


[03-Jul-19 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It means Koch has turned into a communist! :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust: :trixdisgust:


[03-Jul-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also means that soros has turned into a nazi!


[03-Jul-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they msut both be thrown into the pits of despair!


[03-Jul-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/566af8a0a91f499ba391da1bca372f9e

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Military hardware at Lincoln Memorial for Trump's big July 4
WASHINGTON (AP) — The military hardware is moving into place. So are the protesters. And, ever the showman, President Donald Trump is promising the "show of a lifetime" on the National Mall for...
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[03-Jul-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
come one come all! come see your city's roads and bridges torn down for my amusement!


[03-Jul-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for added flare we will launch 200 fireworks inside the lincoln memorial!


[03-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/03/middleeast/khalid-al-qasimi-death-gbr-intl/index.html

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UAE prince and fashion designer Khalid Al Qasimi dies in unexplain...
Fashion designer Khalid Al Qasimi, the 39-year-old son of the ruler of Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), has died in circumstances described by UK authorities as unexplained.
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[03-Jul-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1146423819906748416

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1146423819906748416
China and Europe playing big currency manipulation game and pumping money into their system in order to compete with USA. We should MATCH, or continue being the dummies who sit back and politely watch as other countries continue to play their games - as they have for many ...
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[03-Jul-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump plays with monopoly money: the tweet


[03-Jul-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.xbiz.com/news/245194/never-mind-the-body-fluids-twitters-new-tos-ramp-up-all-around-porn-censorship

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Never Mind the Body Fluids: Twitter's New TOS Ramp Up All-Around P...
While the adult community on Twitter continues focusing on specific items in Twitter’s latest revision to their Terms of Service (TOS) concerning what the company calls “sensitive material,” a careful reading of the new policy unveiled in March 2019 reveals a deliberate...
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[03-Jul-19 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>pumping money into their system


[03-Jul-19 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What does Trump mean by this


[03-Jul-19 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trade superavits? Issuing of currency?


[03-Jul-19 09:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think he knows anything proper about economics other than "China is getting big"


[03-Jul-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It means "REEEEEEEE AMERICA FIRST!"


[03-Jul-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Any time any country does something that doesn't directly and immediately benefit the US, Trump has a pretend freakout about them being the devil abusing downtrodden american workers


[03-Jul-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"People in FRANCE are drinking FRENCH milk, not AMERICAN milk from GOOD, FAMILY OWNED AMERICAN FARMS. Disgraceful ATTACK on the US, SAD!"


[03-Jul-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the same reason he sent vessels after iranian oil tankers. it meant less oil money for america so trump was having none of it


[03-Jul-19 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2019/07/brazilian-army-honors-german-major-awarded-by-hitler.shtml

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Brazilian Army Honors German Major Awarded by Hitler
Officer was shot dead in Rio in 1968 in left-wing guerrilla action, mistaken for Bolivian
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[03-Jul-19 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Brazilian Army later reaffirmed its commitment to maintaining homage towards the nazi soldier, who participated in the rather holistically brutal Eastern Front.


[03-Jul-19 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318129883421081600/596057811213877298/image0.png

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[03-Jul-19 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Offending the memory of an officer of the German Federal Republic, who trained in Brazil, by labeling him a 'nazi' is equal to misunderstanding the historical process that ocurred in that country allied to us, in the post-war period. This intellectualist distortion, indeed, is wrong!"


[03-Jul-19 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, all nazis ceased being nazis after the Third Reich was deposed


[03-Jul-19 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck these people


[03-Jul-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48861071

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Nicki Minaj Saudi gig prompts confusion online
'No one in Saudi Arabia Googled her did they?"
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[03-Jul-19 10:29 PM] RYDE#8862
Looks like Twitter can't tell the difference between sexual content and hateful content. Gettin' really tired of this.


[03-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOW


[03-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is Nick Minaj going to put on a burka?


[03-Jul-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is she going to just come in panties and a bra?


[03-Jul-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are there rules on how many times she can twerk?


[03-Jul-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOW WILL IT WORK?


[03-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, "Teenager Accused of Rape Deserves Leniency Because He’s From a ‘Good Family,’ Judge Says"


[03-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[03-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Teenager is white not blakk


[03-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
comes from wealth


[03-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
to treat him like a blakk man would be inhumane


[03-Jul-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a pretty clear pattern of judges seeing rich white boys as "good" and poor blakk boys as "bad" when it comes to sentencing.


[03-Jul-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is common.


[03-Jul-19 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I gotta be honest


[03-Jul-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I do not comprehend how a judge can do something like that


[03-Jul-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It coming to light


[03-Jul-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And them still being a judge


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, who has the power to fire judges in the US


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...OH I MISSED THAT


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Pinned a message.


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or are you going to tell me these are elected officials


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Jesus fucking christ


[03-Jul-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, Twitter's gonna pull a Tumblr before the year is over


[03-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Guess I have no reason to use Twitter anymore 🤷


[03-Jul-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What, you don't like a site that shits all over your images, uses ~algorithms~ to decide what content to boost, and classifies semen the same as brain splatter?

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[03-Jul-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that the UX is still fucking attrocious


[03-Jul-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the mentality goes "If i spare their spoiled white brat, thne the parents might pay me hansomely/ donate to a future campaign if i make one"


[03-Jul-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i call this rapist monster a good christian man, then he and his family might donate to my future political campaign"


[03-Jul-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ect


[03-Jul-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where as poor black families don;t have the cash judges are interested in pilfering


[03-Jul-19 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why the fuck are capitalist corporations deciding to ban porn on their platforms rater than exploit it? It really doesn't feel like it makes sense


[03-Jul-19 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Last i heard, drawing and commissioning furry porn is quite profitable


[03-Jul-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ad companies


[03-Jul-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and app hosts


[03-Jul-19 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't you mean, parasites?


[03-Jul-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty muich


[03-Jul-19 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the same reason the youtube algorithm keeps gettign stupider and stupider


[03-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/3/20677645/antifa-portland-andy-ngo-proud-boys

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The assault on conservative journalist Andy Ngo, explained
An unjustifiable attack — and a subsequent controversy spotlighting the militant left-wing group antifa.
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[03-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
apparently antifa attacked a gay journalist in portland


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon most judges in the US are elected officials


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
in some cases recall elections can be done.


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
>Last Saturday, the far-right Proud Boys group held a rally in Portland, Oregon. Left-wing groups, including the Portland branch of the militant antifa group, put together a counterprotest — whose attendees clashed with the Proud Boys. But the most notable instance of violence had nothing to do with the Proud Boys: It was an attack by counterprotesters on the conservative journalist Andy Ngo that reportedly sent him to the hospital.


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
In most cases they cannot be.


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
>In footage captured by Portland-based reporter Jim Ryan, demonstrators douse Ngo in milkshake, punch him, and yell at him. In short, it looks a lot like an unprovoked, unjustified, reprehensible assault on an observer — a journalist — merely because the protesters don’t like him.


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why the fuck would you elect judges


[03-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something something local gov't


[03-Jul-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
also in some cases people make judge without understanding the basics of law


[03-Jul-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
like they think it's guilty until proven innocent


[03-Jul-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
because there are literally no qualifications most of the time


[04-Jul-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also those judges who are preparign to just launch a campaign for a higher political position like mayor, governor, senator, and what not


[04-Jul-19 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon it ends up being a horrible spiral of despair because judges have to advertise themselves as "tough on crime" to win elections


[04-Jul-19 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
most end up causing incredible miscarriages of justice this way


[04-Jul-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
43 states elect their AG


[04-Jul-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[04-Jul-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said AG also has to be TUFF ON CRIME


[04-Jul-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and often is a political operative for Republicans


[04-Jul-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
who makes sure that they can take down Democrats who somehow win despite gerrymandering.


[04-Jul-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley is and was a character


[04-Jul-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the primary "reee social media is biased" Republicans


[04-Jul-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Making sites liable for what their users post absent the obvious just because of a political bias would be awful.


[04-Jul-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wants the _government to audit rules on sites._


[04-Jul-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also now Trump is trying to find a way to go around the Supreme Court on the census question


[04-Jul-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, this is why the president should have extremely limited speech rights


[04-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They shouldn't be able to say anything that would make people question the other branches that isn't a genuine attempt to be constructive


[04-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same goes for private companies/individuals


[04-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon The state supreme court can discipline them, or remove them if they are that egregious


[04-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's rare


[04-Jul-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1294898/in-re-conduct-of-ginsberg/

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[04-Jul-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This reads like an "and then everyone on the bus clapped" story


[04-Jul-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw i didnt get to read the whiole thing


[04-Jul-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-third-term-joke-meet-the-press-2019-6 sure he wont

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Trump said he 'only jokes' about trying to serve a third term
President Donald Trump cleared up his jokes about term limits Sunday, telling "Meet the Press" that he would stop at two.
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[04-Jul-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i;m the CEO of walmart


[04-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"When the defendant explained that no one was hurt and that she had followed another car around the barricades, Judge Ginsberg dismissed the case in its entirety, stating, "this ticket is history." Judge Ginsberg then announced that the defendant was 67 years old and had no driving violations. The gallery applauded. Judge Ginsberg thanked the gallery for showing courtesy to the defendant and gave her $5.00, urging her to buy a cup of coffee before leaving the courthouse. Judge Ginsberg did not ask to hear from the prosecuting attorney before dismissing the case."


[04-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda)


[04-Jul-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also beat up a kid, told a defendant to pick which police officer he wanted to fight, and keyed someone's car


[04-Jul-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So was the problem there just not hearing from the prosecuting attorney?


[04-Jul-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or was it the actual dismissal of the case?


[04-Jul-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause following another car is actually important to how road laws work.


[04-Jul-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dismissing it without even hearing them


[04-Jul-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right.


[04-Jul-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, giving money to a defendant is probably not okay either.


[04-Jul-19 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"This was a prosecution by the City of Minnetonka of a 67-year-old woman for driving around police barricades. Assistant City Attorney Rolf Sponheim represented the city; the defendant appeared pro se. When the case was called, Judge Ginsberg stated: "Mrs. [S.], you don't look like the type of person who would drive around police barricades." When the defendant asked to plead guilty with an explanation, Judge Ginsberg stated: "Hang on one second here. Yeah, you're on a ramp. You see the lights, you don't know what to do so you keep going. Reasonable. Did you hurt anybody?"


[04-Jul-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin what


[04-Jul-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah judges should not be doing that


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does it not take years of law school to become a judge?


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not if you get elected.


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cna get elected for judge without a law school degree?


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Small town, put your name on the ballot, nobody else runs, congrats you're a judge.


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
In many areas, yes.


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that should be illegal as fuck


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
These rules are like from the old west


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no wonder our legal system is fucked to shit


[04-Jul-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
before there were like any people with law degrees available in the area


[04-Jul-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
small town needed SOMETHING to deal with cattle thieves and such


[04-Jul-19 01:07 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1146514922286780416?s=21

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[04-Jul-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shut up trump


[04-Jul-19 01:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Yes please


[04-Jul-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your plan was concentration camp em and leave em


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least SCOTUS gave them Habeus Corpus


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, those laws should have really been updated by now


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing about law


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's write-once


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can write more law


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it never expires


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is no undo key


[04-Jul-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just write law that says old law no longer applies


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you can write law that references non-law that must be paid to access.


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And treats it as if it were law itself.


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very way laws are written in the US is poor.


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america sucks


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so fucking bad


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because of what we inherited from the English system


[04-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, because who was on the throne could change at any moment


[04-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they could rewrite everything


[04-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to hav stability you had to hav forever-applying laws that could be easily written and not easily removed


[04-Jul-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Laws would be written on a whim for something of the day and left forever.


[04-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, with laws being permanent and often excessive


[04-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only way to provide leniency so people could liv their damn lives was for judges to override with dismissals etc.


[04-Jul-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
which leads us right bakk to the issue, @prism stryder(intexda)


[04-Jul-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
>dismissing the case before prosecution speaks


[04-Jul-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


[04-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Eonex#8261

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[04-Jul-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is that a real thing someone official published


[04-Jul-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I really don't think so


[04-Jul-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it's a shitpost


[04-Jul-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amusingly, that doesn't affect the chances of Trump reposting it


[04-Jul-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
correct


[04-Jul-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
all I can find in reverse search results for this image is fake news websites


[04-Jul-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
so it's a shitpost


[04-Jul-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and of coruse many republicans are hosting distraction events ont he day of muellers hearing


[04-Jul-19 01:58 AM] Eonex#8261
Sorry if I caused something by posting this


[04-Jul-19 01:58 AM] Eonex#8261
I just thought it was kinda funny


[04-Jul-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it was humorous


[04-Jul-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cccf994f27984d0c8372542e3bed26d4

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Appeals court puts Trump abortion restrictions on hold again
SEATTLE (AP) — Trump administration rules that impose additional hurdles for low-income women seeking abortions are on hold once again. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco...
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[04-Jul-19 05:43 AM] Mikey#7286

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[04-Jul-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mueller-twitter-testimony-report-congress-latest-a8984686.html

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Trump pleads with Mueller to ‘stick to report’ and not reveal ...
Politicians have suggested that questioning could reveal more details about the president
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[04-Jul-19 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
goodluck with that trump


[04-Jul-19 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meuller is the retired college professor now, which means he's having none of that shit


[04-Jul-19 07:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-abortion-ohio/us-judge-blocks-ohio-heartbeat-law-to-end-most-abortions-idUSKCN1TY2PK

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U.S. judge blocks Ohio 'heartbeat' law to end most abortions
A federal judge on Wednesday blocked Ohio from enforcing a new law that critics ...
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[04-Jul-19 07:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🙌


[04-Jul-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/03/trumps-hijacking-july-th-just-got-lot-uglier/


[04-Jul-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
>New details are emerging about Trump’s plans. The Post reports that the National Park Service will now divert millions of dollars previously earmarked to improve parks across the country to fund Trump’s celebration on the Mall.


[04-Jul-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
>As many critics have pointed out, by politicizing the Fourth of July so nakedly, Trump has inevitably transformed the celebration into a campaign event. It remains to be seen whether he will do so explicitly in his speech, but either way, that conversion has already been implicitly accomplished.


[04-Jul-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-child-dead-3-critical-condition-their-parents-are-run-n1026066

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1 child dead, 3 in critical condition and parents are on run, offi...
A fifth child believed to have been born in a hotel room has not been found and police in Oklahoma and Missouri are asking for the public's help.
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[04-Jul-19 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
>Law enforcement agencies in Oklahoma and Missouri are looking for a man and a woman after one of their children was found dead and three others were found in critical condition, authorities said.


[04-Jul-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-48864474

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Australian released from North Korean detention
Alek Sigley was freed after a meeting between Swedish diplomats and the North Korean government.
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[04-Jul-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get this obsessions with students visiting north korea


[04-Jul-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
why would anyone ever want to visit north korea?


[04-Jul-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Radicalization.


[04-Jul-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
they could literally just unilaterally arrest you for supposedly looking at someone funny


[04-Jul-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
even if you just glanced in their direction


[04-Jul-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
and there's nothing your home country can do about it


[04-Jul-19 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
what radicalization?


[04-Jul-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Idiots who start to think dictatorship is correct.


[04-Jul-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Combine with being a student, feeling young and invincible and such.


[04-Jul-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and extremely curious


[04-Jul-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
bam.


[04-Jul-19 10:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> why visiting NK?
To see how USSR was back then and all that jazz.


[04-Jul-19 10:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
not sure if ussr was as bad as nk


[04-Jul-19 10:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even stalinist USSR was not that bad.


[04-Jul-19 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5fef7761f14f4c65a7de982359b87bd0

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Washington's Fourth of July to come with a twist from Trump
WASHINGTON (AP) — A reality TV host at heart, President Donald Trump is promising the "show of a lifetime" for the hundreds of thousands of revelers who flock to the National Mall every year on...
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[04-Jul-19 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-supremacists-anti-fascists-head-191901733.html

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White supremacists and anti-fascists head to DC ahead of Trump’s...
What was once a family picnic with fireworks is now a potential stage for politically-charged clashes.
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[04-Jul-19 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, this shit just got more interesting


[04-Jul-19 02:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/digital-jail-how-electronic-monitoring-drives-defendants-into-debt

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Digital Jail: How Electronic Monitoring Drives Defendants Into Deb...
Ankle bracelets are promoted as a humane alternative to jail. But private companies charge defendants hundreds of dollars a month to wear the surveillance devices. If people can’t pay, they may end up behind bars.
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[04-Jul-19 03:19 PM] ononim#8141
late to the party but I don't see tankies being into toursk to NK


[04-Jul-19 03:19 PM] ononim#8141
It's either toursits who want something new or people who go "lmao let's go to the NOrth Korea XDDDD"


[04-Jul-19 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3665c4558ad246cdb4f4d9c73e1e6214

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North Carolina proposes smokable hemp ban as demand grows
CLIMAX, N.C. (AP) — North Carolina is the latest state considering a ban on smokable hemp, a product that's exploding along with the health craze surrounding a compound in the plant known as...
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[04-Jul-19 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9d17921acef042debce6aedddfe6b962

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Michigan Rep. Justin Amash quitting Republican Party
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan, the only Republican in Congress to call for impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump, said Thursday he is leaving the GOP...
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[04-Jul-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Jul-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here coems the speech!


[05-Jul-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlxOwx9ixII

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Watch Live: July 4th In Washington, Trump’s ‘Salute To America...
From marching bands and parade floats to military tanks and flyovers, Washington D.C. is host to Independence Day events, including a military-style display ...
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[05-Jul-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm i'm surprised, he managed to stick to the script the whole way through without insulting anyone


[05-Jul-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wasnlt political, he didnt go off about how great he is, he didnt make it about re-election


[05-Jul-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m honestly surprised


[05-Jul-19 02:27 AM] Eonex#8261

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[05-Jul-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
obviously, they threatened to take away fox news tv time in the mornings if he didn't stay on script


[05-Jul-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how hels going to fuck it up with twitter later


[05-Jul-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
did they destroy the infrastructure with tanks?


[05-Jul-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
or is that later


[05-Jul-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think they only got a single tank and itr was displayed on a trailer on an empty ass road


[05-Jul-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny watching him say he's gonna do all sorts of grand and powerful things, and then when it's finally time to do things, it's like seeing the advertisements for a big juicy decked-out burger and getting a soggy bun with a tiny slab and a token pickle


[05-Jul-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/tanks-arrive-in-d-c-for-president-trump-s-fourth-of-july-celebration-63179845631 no wait here;s footage of soem tanks

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Tanks arrive in D.C. for President Trump's Fourth of July celebration
NBC News captured video of  two Bradley and two Abrams tanks arriving on Tuesday. Trump, delighted by the Bastille Day parade he attended in France, now plans to bring something similar to Washington, D.C.
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[05-Jul-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh that;s from 2 days ago


[05-Jul-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw none of those today


[05-Jul-19 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he did deliver ont he air show though, it was uneventful but he delivered


[05-Jul-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://youtu.be/BFRTx5c1usA here's the one tank...

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Military equipment in place for Trump's July 4th
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[05-Jul-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if he'll demand a redo ont he tank parade


[05-Jul-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next year probably.


[05-Jul-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No capes or tanks.


[05-Jul-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah apparently there were more tanks locked behind a VIP section that only invitational goers could view


[05-Jul-19 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump hyped shit up and thne locked it behind an invitation only wall


[05-Jul-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's ready for the games industry.


[05-Jul-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[05-Jul-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Jul-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
I've noticed my mom seems to be getting worse as well, she called me a "braindead piece of shit" a few days ago almost out of the blue because I refused to answer her question along the lines of "do you ACTUALLY THINK that trump colluded with russia?", I just kept telling her that I don't give a shit whether he did or not, if he had nothing to hide, he wouldn't be stonewalling the investigation so hard


[05-Jul-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
I called her out on it hard and refused to talk to her anymore, I don't even think she remembers doing it


[05-Jul-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
she tried to say that she was talking about bernie voters when she said that and not me personally, but it's obvious she just refused to admit that she called me a braindead piece of shit


[05-Jul-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
she even tried to make me describe why I wasn't a braindead piece of shit


[05-Jul-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing


[05-Jul-19 05:09 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
hurrah for politics


[05-Jul-19 05:09 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:pudding:


[05-Jul-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Jul-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
LET'S GAS SOME KIDS!!!!!


[05-Jul-19 06:02 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:yay:


[05-Jul-19 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently in his speech and i didnt notice at the time but trump said that the colonial army in the revolutionary war took over british air ports


[05-Jul-19 06:19 AM] Eonex#8261
British air ports


[05-Jul-19 06:19 AM] Eonex#8261
Steampunk when?


[05-Jul-19 06:19 AM] Eonex#8261
:twismug:


[05-Jul-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously it's where they launched new ships, on rokket planes.


[05-Jul-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony do you hav any surprise left for Trump's idiocy?


[05-Jul-19 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The country is still standing by some measures so I think there's an untapped well of potential, yes


[05-Jul-19 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really don't wanna get into this, though, having too much fun at AC


[05-Jul-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right, we need a game of catch with the nuclear football at least to really scratch the surface.


[05-Jul-19 10:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How did the 4th July go?


[05-Jul-19 10:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did it took off?
Did it fly?


[05-Jul-19 11:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did went off with a bang?


[05-Jul-19 11:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Was it a blast?


[05-Jul-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was kinda boring


[05-Jul-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump managed to make an entire speech liek a grown person without deviating formt he script


[05-Jul-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he failed to deliver on the tank parade


[05-Jul-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he got an air show going though


[05-Jul-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and none of the soldiers forced to be there were very happy abpout it givent heir facial expressions


[05-Jul-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they very much had that "i;m trying to be stoic and emotionless, but fuck you for making me come here today" kinda look


[05-Jul-19 11:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that makes any sense


[05-Jul-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also trump saidmthis in his speech

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[05-Jul-19 12:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why there were no tanks? Technical difficulties?


[05-Jul-19 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rush job probably


[05-Jul-19 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these were all amazingly last minute plans


[05-Jul-19 12:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And whoever wrote the script, believes in nuclear war of 1800


[05-Jul-19 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump probably dictated the script and someone wrote it for him and had no time to fact check it


[05-Jul-19 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what few tanks there were, were locked behind a VIP invitation only access


[05-Jul-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldn;t be surprised if he tried to invite putin but got turned down


[05-Jul-19 12:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I suspect,  someone sabotaged the script.


[05-Jul-19 12:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or was it from school project?
During yearly final exams, there are dozens of gems like this.


[05-Jul-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it could have been his son;s school essay


[05-Jul-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it likely is that he dictated the speech and no one had any time to fact check this shit because this whole event was rushed to fuck


[05-Jul-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least parts of the speech


[05-Jul-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i doubt he dictated the honor namings


[05-Jul-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the guy who treated leukemia


[05-Jul-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he did break script once to basically tellt he youths of this nation that they should totally join the military and it will boost their legacy greatly


[05-Jul-19 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i wouldn;t be surprised if he came out and said he wants the re-instate the draft


[05-Jul-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5j43wl-NNs

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Trump urges young Americans to join military: "You should do it"
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[05-Jul-19 12:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Amateurs.
Russia have been doing it since a while ago, whether you want or not.


[05-Jul-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia and france are pretty much why he thursted this event on america in the first place


[05-Jul-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants to be a putin, and an erdogan, but he doesnlt have the cunning or intelligence to do so, and he relies too much on outside influence while neglecting his own country's intelligence agencies


[05-Jul-19 02:37 PM] Eonex#8261
If Trump reinstates the draft I wonder if people will kill their officers again


[05-Jul-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their commanding officers, or the other way?


[05-Jul-19 03:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump will reinstate the draft but will use illegial immigrants instead :ponythinking: :ponythinking: :ponythinking:


[05-Jul-19 03:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And that should be illegal


[05-Jul-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3a2d495a3a54429dbf164ca84486ecf9

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Trump says he's mulling executive order for census
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he is "very seriously" considering an executive order to try to force the inclusion of a citizenship question as part of the 2020...
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[05-Jul-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[05-Jul-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the supreme court said no, get fucked buddy


[05-Jul-19 07:00 PM] Yuri#4154
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-48879825/trump-claims-army-took-over-airports-in-1775

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President Trump makes 'airports in 1775' error
Inaccuracies spotted in Trump speech made at Independence Day celebrations in Washington DC.
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[05-Jul-19 07:00 PM] Yuri#4154
:facepalmz:


[05-Jul-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[05-Jul-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jul-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0508c398b4bf46cd9b882cb3d1e4f6e8 he blames the teleprompter

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's tangle on American history
WASHINGTON (AP) — On one of the rare occasions that President Donald Trump stuck to the script, he says the script failed him. Trump's recitation of highlights from American history in his...
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[05-Jul-19 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“The teleprompter went out,” Trump said Friday. “Right in the middle of that sentence it went out.” He added: “I knew the speech very well so I was able to do it without a teleprompter.”


[05-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
That implies that he doesn't know shit about history


[05-Jul-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he actually made it worse for himself by trying to bullshit his way out of it


[05-Jul-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ISPAUK/status/1146725374455373824

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@mozilla is nominated for the #ISPAs #InternetVillain for their proposed approach to introduce DNS-over-HTTPS in such a way as to bypass UK filtering obligations and parental controls, undermining #internet safety standards in the UK. https://t.co/d9NaiaJYnk
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[05-Jul-19 10:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Qt2owUgPU&bpctr=1562360520
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Tommy Robinson
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ENEMY OF THE STATE - IM NOT GUILTY YOUR HONOUR
Please support Tommy's family and fighting his case http://www.freedomfortommy.com
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[05-Jul-19 10:58 PM] ononim#8141
>RT


[05-Jul-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I read some of the court documents


[05-Jul-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sunnyside what motivates you to defend this person?


[05-Jul-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
You _cannot_ prejudice the jury


[05-Jul-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
That is immediate contempt


[05-Jul-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
It completely fucks the legal procedure


[05-Jul-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it wasn't the jury he talked to though


[05-Jul-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and the information he used was public domain and thus not break the law


[05-Jul-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
all of it?


[05-Jul-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
are you sure about that?


[05-Jul-19 11:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
What motivates me to defend this person is the fact that like him or hate him. there are folks clearly trying to silence him and/or get him murdered in prison and I find it wrong.


[05-Jul-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking ^


[05-Jul-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/586b1e81cb684654b0cf689b9074c1cb

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[05-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What did he do


[05-Jul-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, apparently live broadcasted defendants to facebook


[05-Jul-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48887440

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Tommy Robinson guilty over Facebook broadcast
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[05-Jul-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
>She said Robinson breached the reporting restriction imposed on the trial by live-streaming a video from outside the public entrance to the court and by "aggressively confronting and filming" some of the defendants.


[05-Jul-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
he basically breached a gag order


[05-Jul-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
basically, this guy broke the law and is now crying about it and saying it's because he's conservative and not because he broke the law


[05-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So he broke a court order


[05-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
this is highly illegal shit, @Sunnyside, it's very unlikely you get away with this shit, even in the US


[05-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
courts do not take direct breaches of their authority lightly


[05-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah breaking a court order is not good


[05-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
even trump tiptoes around directly refuting the supreme court because even though he appointed two judges to gain a republican majority, one of them seems to care about the rule of law too much to go with everything trump wants


[05-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Both do.


[05-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
idk much about kavanaugh


[05-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's no Thomas


[05-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas is basically Squidward in a black robe


[05-Jul-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
I just know that gorsuch has been ruling against a bunch of stuff conservatives want 5-4


[05-Jul-19 11:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Did you see the video i shared that is his defense?


[05-Jul-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of violating a court order?


[05-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Qt2owUgPU&bpctr=1562360520


[05-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this one.


[05-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Qt2owUgPU>


[05-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its him sharing his side of the story


[05-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
there is no "his side" in law breaking


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
there's always two sides crow.


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
there was a direct court order preventing him from doing what he did


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
he decided that court orders didn't matter


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
did he say that?


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
By violating it you say it implicitly


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You are spitting in the face of the court


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
> The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences.


[05-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, this video's really going to be something


[05-Jul-19 11:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
watch his defense. He argues that he did not violate the court order.


[05-Jul-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
ohhh yeah, this is the guy who claimed he was kept in 3 months solitary confinement, but prisoners in the prison he was at said he refused to come out of his cell while it was open and talk to anyone


[05-Jul-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
and the prison itself said that he was never once kept away from the other prisoners


[05-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
source?


[05-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
idk, I linked it the last time you linked a bunch of bullshit about him


[05-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
he wasn't acting like someone who spent time in solitary confinement either


[05-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
he was being interviewed at a loud restaurant talking a mile a minute


[05-Jul-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
people who spend the amount of time he claimed he was in solitary confinement hate loud noises and barely talk


[05-Jul-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
it takes a serious amount of hehabilitation to get back out of the mental shell that builds up while in solitary confinement


[06-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There might have been brown people in that prison, Crow


[06-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thus just being in the same building means he was forced into solitary confinement


[06-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lest he have to interact with pakis or pollacks


[06-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, I'm watching this video, he's somehow suggesting that because two different courts decided that certain charges that were originally brought against him were determined to be irrelevant, the attorney general dropping them and bringing more relevant charges against him is somehow them persecuting him for being conservative


[06-Jul-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
from what I read the guy is out for blood against muslims


[06-Jul-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
but I didn't bring that up earlier


[06-Jul-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jul-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so eddie gallagher got aquitted...


[06-Jul-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good to know we donlt punish our war criminals here


[06-Jul-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jul-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1146985097989693441

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[06-Jul-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
wow


[06-Jul-19 05:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i didn't know we had airports in 1776!


[06-Jul-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/05/739033701/judge-to-review-claims-of-census-citizenship-questions-discriminatory-origins

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Judge To Review Claims Of Census Citizenship Question's 'Discrimin...
While the Justice Department continues exploring possible ways to add a question about citizenship to the census forms, a federal judge in Maryland is moving ahead with reopening two cases against it.
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[06-Jul-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
>A federal judge in Maryland is moving forward with a case that claims the Trump administration intended to discriminate against immigrant communities of color by adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census.


[06-Jul-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
>Hazel's order means that as the Trump administration prolongs the legal fight to add a citizenship question to the census, more evidence may be revealed in court about how and exactly why the administration tried to include it.


[06-Jul-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
we already know from the gerrymandering guru's files that it was added with racist intent


[06-Jul-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0c6962ba64b74c459b3cac060e322087

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Williamson warns US elections could become more like Iran's
DOVER, N.H. (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson on Friday warned that American elections could become more like voting in countries like Iran. Speaking at a campaign...
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[06-Jul-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-navyseal-warcrimes/u-s-navy-seal-demoted-for-posing-with-dead-prisoner-idUKKCN1TY2NY

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U.S. Navy SEAL spared jail but demoted after war crimes trial
A U.S. Navy SEAL platoon commander acquitted of murdering a captured Islamic Sta...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190703&t=2&i=1404204282&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF621ZI


[06-Jul-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least there are some consequences to be a war criminal (or rather getting caught making self-incriminatory evidence of being one)


[06-Jul-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-favorite-polling-company-finds-biden-comfortably-ahead-head-head-matchup-1447885?amp=1

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President Trump's favorite polling company just found Joe Biden co...
Rasmussen Reports has given Trump generous approval ratings, but in a new head-to-head matchup, they found Biden besting him in 2020.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1510175/combo-us-politics-trump-biden.jpg


[07-Jul-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Rasmussen has some sort of sampling problem


[07-Jul-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
They almost always report _far_ too heavily conservative


[07-Jul-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
But it is interesting that even they think Biden is going to win


[07-Jul-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
And depressing


[07-Jul-19 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>he doesn't want uncle joe to bring back the good old times


[07-Jul-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make Em Like They Used To Again


[07-Jul-19 01:23 AM] Veetaha#5542
Is there anyone from epam?


[07-Jul-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that a country, city, or company?


[07-Jul-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... someone just called hate crimes, and hate speech a nebulous leftist construct deisgned to target jews...


[07-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Veetaha#5542
Its a company, big enough to provide a chance to find someone from it here


[07-Jul-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah ok


[07-Jul-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
general might offer more fruitful results


[07-Jul-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/63dbb0812a9a4cfba4f0f14f2312590d

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The Latest: Gov. Newsom says Trump wants to help California
RIDGECREST, Calif. (AP) — The Latest on Southern California's strongest earthquake in 20 years (all times local): 4 p.m. Gov. Gavin Newsom says President Donald Trump has called him...
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[07-Jul-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-sex-trafficking.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/06/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-sex-trafficking.html
Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Long Accused of Molesting Minors, Is ...
Mr. Epstein, who was charged with sex trafficking, had avoided federal charges a decade ago in a widely criticized plea deal.
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[07-Jul-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was Joe Schmo he'd've been in jail for life the first time, pretty much.


[07-Jul-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he was rich, so he got a super lenient deal.


[07-Jul-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/06/kamala-harris-homeownership-2020-1399253

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Kamala Harris proposes $100 billion plan for black homeownership
Harris said her program would “put homeownership within the reach” of millions of families.
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[07-Jul-19 06:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*"His jail arrangement allowed him to get out of the Palm Beach County Stockade six days a week to work out of his office."*


[07-Jul-19 06:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Eat the rich


[07-Jul-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This shouldn't be fukking necessary https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/07/05/738283044/doctors-slow-to-adopt-tech-tools-that-might-save-patients-money-on-drugs

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Doctors Slow To Adopt Tech Tools That Might Save Patients Money On...
A pricing tool embedded in many prescribing and medical records systems lets doctors see how much each patient is likely to pay out of pocket for medicine. But the tools could be better, doctors say.
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[07-Jul-19 10:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I suppose, it was not an earthquake, but ancestors rolling in their graves?


[07-Jul-19 12:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://quoms.tumblr.com/post/186094968302/just-want-to-gently-remind-anyone-who-may-have

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left unity
https://quoms.tumblr.com/post/186094968302/just-want-to-gently-remind-anyone-who-may-have
left unity
Just want to gently remind anyone who may have forgotten in the midst of all this hubbub that of all the most high-profile contemporary examples of state mistreatment of migrants, including the...
https://66.media.tumblr.com/avatar_09c669e6c2c1_512.pnj


[07-Jul-19 12:41 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
who is cursing america this 4th of july weekend? who is this wicked person?
also migrants and immigrants are different. first mistake.
second, whether you are talking about the illegal immigrants from the south (or north), they are aware of the risk they take so comparing them to the situations in europe isn't fair because the illegal immigrants in the US have much more of a choice and often leave in malice rather than being forced out at such magnitudes as those seen in europe. If they are refering to the japanese concentration camps in the US that's different but those weren't migrants iirc.
Also, as far as I'm aware, it was the Liberal party in Australia pushing the immigration crap (that I'm in favor of). The Labor party only stands to benefit from Chinese and south asian immigration as a platform.


[07-Jul-19 12:41 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
and why curse australia? such a hatefilled post. big dislike


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] ononim#8141
```Just want to gently remind anyone who may have forgotten in the midst of all this hubbub that of all the most high-profile contemporary examples of state mistreatment of migrants, including the concentration camp systems in both America and Hungary, every single one is directly traceable to Australian immigration policy over the last 27 years (a policy initially devised, incidentally, by the Australian Labor Party). So as we all curse America on this July 4th weekend, let’s set aside a few moments to also curse Australia, one of the few countries on Earth innovating ways to be evil faster than the Great Satan can keep up```


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
most of this is from the top of my head though. I haven't followed either US or Australian politics in a fair bit


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
it doesn't break down how it's traceable


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] ononim#8141
Because they've been doing same concetration camps things for refugees for decades now


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
and Australia has been shitty to immigrants for literally all of it's history


[07-Jul-19 12:42 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
we blocked greeks from coming in by faking language requirements


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
and also complicit in genocide and warcrimes done by Indonesian regiume in West Papua and East Timor


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
YOu know


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
and up until the 80's the blacks in house weren't allowed to own land


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
there was a whistleblower about the later thing


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
he's presecuted by a secret court in Australia for that


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
so fuck them


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
is this about christmas island? or what was that one stone block they throw all the boat people who try to land on our beaches at


[07-Jul-19 12:43 PM] ononim#8141
This of course means "fuck gov and those who put forth not every single random australian" before anyone misinterepts me


[07-Jul-19 12:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
yeah that's my bad, I was defending the government though not the people, I didn't think anyone meant to curse us (either side)


[07-Jul-19 12:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
parliaments pretty fucked in both houses but not very curse worthy afaik


[07-Jul-19 12:44 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
and the US government is lukewarm atm compared to how it usually is


[07-Jul-19 12:45 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I need to read up on what Australia's been doing though. afaik we've been back handing brown and lesser white people away for centuries


[07-Jul-19 12:45 PM] ononim#8141
even "lukewarm" US government is absolutelly curse worthy


[07-Jul-19 12:45 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
how so?


[07-Jul-19 12:46 PM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
besides the motives for supporting israel, I can't think of anything off the top of my head. but I want to know


[07-Jul-19 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
They are criminal regime build in genocide, sowing misery and suffering abourd and inside for profit and power for more than two centuries now


[07-Jul-19 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
And like


[07-Jul-19 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
you know country can do horrible shit in the past


[07-Jul-19 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
but this one has been doing it for almost all of it existence


[07-Jul-19 12:47 PM] ononim#8141
and continues


[07-Jul-19 12:47 PM] ononim#8141
so


[07-Jul-19 12:47 PM] ononim#8141
I think that's pretty curse worthy


[07-Jul-19 03:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1147853700217618432?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1147853700217618432?s=21
Sleepy Joe Biden just admitted he worked with segregationists and separately, has already been very plain about the fact that he will be substantially raising everyone’s taxes if he becomes president. Ridiculously, all Democrats want to substantially raise taxes!
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[07-Jul-19 03:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
taxes r bad guys we must remove taxes


[07-Jul-19 03:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
why is our economy dying


[07-Jul-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a771c4a7d487498d9165fafab7f2dd9e

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Congress has ambitious agenda tackling health care costs
WASHINGTON (AP) — Lawmakers are trying to set aside their irreconcilable differences over the Obama-era Affordable Care Act and work to reach bipartisan agreement on a more immediate health care...
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[07-Jul-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ab18df496fba48b2a57a581ed1684ba8

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Top UK diplomat in USA criticizes Trump in leaked memos
LONDON (AP) — Leaked diplomatic cables reveal that Britain's ambassador to the United States regards President Donald Trump's administration as inept, hobbled by infighting, and unlikely to...
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[07-Jul-19 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) So they're gonna do half-measures on healthcare while they get the courts to revoke Obamacare, then try to say to voters that they had nothing to do with the latter and are truly caring because of the former.


[07-Jul-19 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially that is the plan


[07-Jul-19 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half ass it till everyone is too dead to call you out on your shit


[07-Jul-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the NRA is still having an existential meltdown as they try to fight against the rapid decrease in gun interest


[07-Jul-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine they're hoping for another mass shooting in a blue state so they can rarara about "they're gonna take our guns!", "Woulda be prevented by a good guy with a gun!", "How did this happen if BLUE STATE has these absurd strict gun laws?! GUNS FOR EVERYONE NOW!", etc.


[07-Jul-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the heads of the NRA also said pretty clearly "i;m goign to raise an armed malitia for voting season" which probably doesn;t help things for them...


[07-Jul-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and while they probably think another mass shooting woudl help their cause, it would also just as easily make things worse for them as people get fed up with their lobbyists blocking every solution to them


[07-Jul-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thecrimereport.org/2019/07/05/nra-split-over-reaction-to-newtown-massacre-paper/

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NRA Split Over Reaction to Newtown Massacre: Paper | The Crime Report
Several senior National Rifle Association officials thought the organization should take a less confrontational approach on gun control issues, the Washington Post reports. But NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre struck a defiant posture.
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[07-Jul-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the leadership of the NRA are having internal conflicts


[07-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-desert-town-aims-to-be-sanctuary-city-for-gun-owners

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California desert town aims to be ‘sanctuary city’ for gun owners
An Old West desert town in California has declared itself a “sanctuary city” for law-abiding gun owners.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/07/AP19180002708373.jpg


[07-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In response to people doing something related to human rights, these people want to protect their plastic and metal


[07-Jul-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1562519246804.jpg

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[07-Jul-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/05/kings_university_breached_gdpr_by_sharing_list_of_activist_students_with_cops/

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King's College London breached GDPR by sharing list of activist st...
Uni apologises for barring students on royal visit and 'fesses up to ICO
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[07-Jul-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
never change el reg


[07-Jul-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanctuary city for gun owners? yeah, there's totally an ICE type orginization running around deporting guns out of the country...


[07-Jul-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look at our sprawling gun prison camps!


[07-Jul-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these guns don;t belong in a dog cage!


[07-Jul-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
How dare you seperate these sick bullets from their loving guns!


[07-Jul-19 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How's that guy's streams are going so far?


[07-Jul-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348225722487144458/597533764645814293/dqkfsb9cpw831.png

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[07-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[07-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait to see the paddywagon rounding up undesirables and kicking them out to the desert


[07-Jul-19 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Here is a thought that might stir the pot"


[07-Jul-19 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it stirred my pot so hard my neurons fell out


[07-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Walk 20 miles that way and you'll find water. Turn back and we'll shoot"


[07-Jul-19 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literally totalitarianism, except it's not because it has the word "freedom" imbued into one of its names or descriptions


[07-Jul-19 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Freedom transfers"?


[08-Jul-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of when I was in seventh grade and you had to create your "Utopia" because we had just read Thomas More


[08-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I made a society where banishment was the worst form of punishment but if you found your way back you got accepted again


[08-Jul-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also education was free and I heavily implied those that choose not to take advantage of it are looked down upon


[08-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why am I remembering it all now


[08-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had nuclear fusion and worshipped a sheep god


[08-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like NationStates...


[08-Jul-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In hindsight I made a  cult of people who worshipped sheep and sent those who went against the grain out into the desert with a compass and a knife


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I basically made Wales


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You made Sheep


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
New South Wales


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not Whales


[08-Jul-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[08-Jul-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not a late millennial/Zoomer until you read The Giver in school


[08-Jul-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I read that one...


[08-Jul-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
English teacher (in Spain) would have me read random books and write reports on them rather than sit idle in class


[08-Jul-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my first experiences with subtle horror was reading Brave New World where the person handling the decanting didn't give the bottle its tropical vaccinations


[08-Jul-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they were absent minded for a second someone died 40 years later


[08-Jul-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
I checked up on that evulart dude who drew nessa like a chimp, apparently he was suspended for a bit https://twitter.com/Evulart/status/1144934154573877248

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Sorry for the blackout I got suspended wrongfully and couldnt update with a prequel story
Nessa really <3 monkeys so she went to the circus and purchased one from a lovely little man.
Dressed her in her clothes and took a photo session. They had cake and laughs afterwards....
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[08-Jul-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
so he drew a "prequel" comic to show how it wasn't racist


[08-Jul-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
and someone instantly linked his racist shit in the replies lol


[08-Jul-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/67dd2ad527794c24b4d41d57cd161e18

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DHS official defends conditions at Border Patrol stations
WASHINGTON (AP) — Acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan on Sunday defended conditions at U.S. Border Patrol stations following reports of crowded and unsanitary conditions that have...
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[08-Jul-19 03:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
@Crow Damage Control is great huh 😐


[08-Jul-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/crowd-chants-fuck-trump-fox-news-reporter-soccer-world-cup-1447934

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Crowd chants 'F*** Trump' loudly behind Fox News reporter after U....
"Now we need to win in 2020!" one soccer fan told the Fox News correspondent. "Get that racist out of the White House!"
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[08-Jul-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
😂


[08-Jul-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
I just met someone who unironically argued for bringing back slavery for "practical reasons", saying it had absolutely nothing to do with profit


[08-Jul-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
because there's "too many" people sitting in prison being a "drain on the system"


[08-Jul-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
also said that the CRISPR/Cas9 gene therapy cure for cancer was fake and only works in petri dishes


[08-Jul-19 10:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
There is too many ppl in prisons in USA


[08-Jul-19 10:56 AM] Crow#5457
yes, because shit that shouldn't be illegal is


[08-Jul-19 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
so many policies are made specifically to keep the prison system overflowing


[08-Jul-19 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
because it makes money


[08-Jul-19 12:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Community service" at logging camp / factory / uranium mine...


[08-Jul-19 12:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:PepestanWelcomeToGulag:


[08-Jul-19 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
I hate how it's always conservatives who play shitty word games in order to paint fascism and nazism as "leftist" ideals


[08-Jul-19 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
and then say that "communism" is the same as fascism because shitty totalitarian states like the USSR and china use the label


[08-Jul-19 01:12 PM] byte[]#2610
communism spirals into authoritarianism at scale


[08-Jul-19 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
it was state socialism, I don't think any of the decentralized methods of socialism have been tried at any meaningful scale


[08-Jul-19 01:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Define differences between communism and socialism.


[08-Jul-19 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
communism is the ideal of a classless, stateless society


[08-Jul-19 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
socialism is the economic system where the market is state-run


[08-Jul-19 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
I think the term is "planned economy"


[08-Jul-19 01:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And what do you call the system, where the people have significant decision making in a civilized way?


[08-Jul-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
aaronmk's mentioned this before, but apparently there was a massively successful anarchist catalonia state in which pretty much everything was collectively owned, and its productivity skyrocketed despite the lack of any market competition to be better


[08-Jul-19 01:21 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason why they ultimately failed is because the fascists in spain came in and slaughtered them all


[08-Jul-19 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

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Revolutionary Catalonia
Revolutionary Catalonia (21 July 1936 – 1939) was the part of Catalonia (an autonomous region in northeast Spain) controlled by various anarchist, communist, and socialist trade unions, parties, and militias of the Spanish Civil War period. Although the Generalitat of Catal...
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[08-Jul-19 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
basically, it seemed like guild socialism


[08-Jul-19 01:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is a modern system in European countries,  where the town is controlled by tenants and they decide on taxes and finances.


[08-Jul-19 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_socialism>


[08-Jul-19 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2019/07/07/outrage-after-music-festival-charges-half-for-people-of-color/

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Outrage after music festival charges half for people of color
A Detroit music festival has sparked outrage by offering half-price tickets to “people of color” — with at least one biracial artist pulling out in protest. The AfroFuture Fest ha…
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[08-Jul-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>A Detroit music festival has sparked outrage by offering half-price tickets to “people of color” — with at least one biracial artist pulling out in protest.

The AfroFuture Fest has early-bird ticket prices of $10 for POC (“people of color”) while anyone else has to pay $20. Tickets eventually rise to $20 for POC and $40 non-POC for the August 3 event.

Local rapper Tiny Jag pulled out of performing as soon as she learned of the race-based price disparity.

“I was immediately enraged just because I am biracial,” the rapper, real name Jillian Graham, told the Detroit Metro Times.

“I have family members that would have, under those circumstances, been subjected to something that I would not ever want them to be in … especially not because of anything that I have going on.”


[08-Jul-19 02:11 PM] ononim#8141
Shameful tbh


[08-Jul-19 03:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/451930-steyer-appears-ready-to-enter-presidential-race-report

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Steyer appears ready to enter presidential race: report
Philanthropist and billionaire liberal activist Tom Steyer is reportedly telling friends he will enter the crowded Democratic presidential primary field this week.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/steyertom_010818gn10_lead.jpg


[08-Jul-19 03:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[08-Jul-19 03:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though knowing how things work he'll probably be in the White House in two years


[08-Jul-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, we're going to be buried in an avalanche of democrats


[08-Jul-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even know who tom steyer is


[08-Jul-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is his reputation?


[08-Jul-19 03:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has spent millions on his impeach Trump campaign


[08-Jul-19 03:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He won't go anywhere, we're already down to four or five actual candidates so the clown car meme is overstated


[08-Jul-19 03:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's probably going to be Warren or Harris plus some random white guy they feel that moderates will like


[08-Jul-19 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete or Beto maybe


[08-Jul-19 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
honk honk


[08-Jul-19 04:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want Williamson for the meme


[08-Jul-19 04:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying namaste after a speech and doing yoga in the Oval Office


[08-Jul-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
As I said


[08-Jul-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
Bernie/Warren plus Williamson as High Priestess or riot


[08-Jul-19 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/CSFYYyY.png

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Novel concept: Principles
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[08-Jul-19 06:41 PM] ononim#8141
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[08-Jul-19 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Swalwell dropped out


[08-Jul-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let the culling begin I suppose


[08-Jul-19 07:54 PM] ononim#8141

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[08-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Williamson's the crazy "our souls will meld and produce higher level thoughts" woman?


[08-Jul-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[08-Jul-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1c8c1e8b150f42de8400d2c4f7d5481c

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration said Monday that it will review the role of human rights in American foreign policy, appointing a commission expected to elevate concerns about religious...
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[08-Jul-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4189e9d27894455cb5738ec0b4e5820b

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GOP scoffs at law allowing release of Trump's state taxes
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — President Donald Trump's New York tax returns could be given to Congress under a new law in his home state that was signed Monday by the Democratic governor and dismissed by...
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[08-Jul-19 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
there's no federal law saying that the states can't do it, so the states can do it


[08-Jul-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://refugee.ru/istorii/priglashenie-na-kazn/

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Приглашение на казнь - «Гражданское ...
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[08-Jul-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
```Former military man from Togo, Batoma Bozobeyida, fled to Russia after refusing to comply with order to kill opposition leader. If he returns to his home country he may be killed as the “traitor to the motherland”. For five year in Russia Togolese was refused status of refugee. He tried to seek asylum in Belarus too, but he was denied there as well and returned to Russian territory. Batoma was placed into Temporary detention centre for foreign citizens, from which he soon may be deported to Togo.```


[08-Jul-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
```    Opposition demanded from Faure Gnassingbé (son of previous leader of the country who was in power for 38 years) to retire and from the government of Togo to limit presidential term. opposition of ruling regime twice, in 2010 and 2015, tried to challenge results of elections, but without success. Not long before the last vote in republic’s capital Lome thousands strong protests were held, which resulted in clashes between protestors and security forces.

    42 year old Batoma Bozobeyida, former guard of a combat unit, participated in the crackdown of these rallies in 2014. After opposition’s demonstration he let free two protestors, who local authorities were planing to kill. Then Batoma refused to take part in operation of elimination of opposition’s leader. Government of Togo considered the soldier to be traitor to “the interests of the state” and threw him into prison, where he was subjugated to torture numerous times.

    The Togolese was under the threat of extrajudicial execution, but he managed to escape into Ghana, where he was awaited by Loran, one of the protestors he saved from imprisonment. In December of 2014 they both flew in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo International Airport, from where they immediately headed to French Embassy. Togolesians had hoped to acquire political asylum there, but the French have sent them to “Civil Assistance” [Гражданское содействие/Grazhdanskoye Sodeystviye] committee.```


[08-Jul-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
```In September of 2015 (before that Batoma had tried to submit an appeal, but his documentation was refused) FMS (Federal Migration Service) denied the Togolese status of refugee, calling his words about political persecutions “speculations“. In their decision employees of Migration Service cited what:
   - Main reason of Batoma’s visit to Russia - poor socio-economic situation in Togo (FMS didn’t care about the fact what Batoma was presidential guard with high pay)
   - Batoma didn’t  turn to Togo’s law enforcement bodies for protection (obviously, as they would only help catch him)
   - Applicant didn’t indicate from who and what threats he received (human rights defenders call these arguments either false or as proof of incompetence of employees who questioned Batoma)
    -The Togolese left republic “unhindered” (“Civil Assistance” sees here too either lies or faults of interview conduct)```


[08-Jul-19 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
```Batoma disputed FMS decision in court, but Russian justice refused to take his side. Unlike Russian authorities, the office of United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees recognized Batoma as a person in need of international protection. Organisation started to prepare the documents for his transfer to another, safer country. 

As human rights activists say, the long wait and consequences of suffering he endured took a hold over Batoma’s mental state. He went to Belarus, where he applied for status of asylum seeker to local authorities. After fem months authorities denied him and extradited him back to Russia 

Thus Batoma has ended up in Bryansk’s Temporary detention centre for foreign citizens. Two days before that, on 18th of June 2019, in the absence of Batoma, the court decided on deporting him to Togo. ```


[08-Jul-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
why would he flee to a country that's notorious for hating blacks?


[08-Jul-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
oh, he tried to go to the french embassy but was turned away


[08-Jul-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/35b3c523466d4cc58db5507e6e1190ec

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Bible shortage? Publishers say tariffs could cause it
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Religious publishers say President Donald Trump's most recent proposed tariffs on Chinese imports could result in a Bible shortage. That's because millions of Bibles...
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[08-Jul-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02107-4?fbclid=IwAR2wZy6pa7d9UYL-qCvc2hj69YHp8bzwBn4kaEe8Isorx6hwo0ZEtw5HIA8

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Hungarian government takes control of research institutes despite ...
But the international scientific community continues to protest against the takeover, saying it will harm science.
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[08-Jul-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Crow


[09-Jul-19 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
Home Depot founder vocalizes support for Trump https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2019/07/08/furious-home-depot-shoppers-say-theyre-boycotting-the-store-and-cutting-up-their-cards-after-one-of-the-home-improvement-retailers-founders-said-hed-donate-some-of-his-fortune-to-trumps-re-election-campaign/23766007/

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Home Depot shoppers are furious after founder said he'd donate to ...
Home Depot's cofounder Bernie Marcus plans to donate to US President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election bid.
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[09-Jul-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not surprised


[09-Jul-19 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought Home Depot was a TV show meme


[09-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like Petsmart


[09-Jul-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
home depot is where all the mexicans in your town work


[09-Jul-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains why my town has no mexicans


[09-Jul-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no home depot to work at


[09-Jul-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
piggly wiggly is also a real store


[09-Jul-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Home Depot has probably single handedly helped more people who were illegally in the US get employed than any single entity in existence.


[09-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a mutual benefit which is why they allow it


[09-Jul-19 02:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*>"The Home Depot cofounder donated $7 million to Trump during the 2016 election"*


[09-Jul-19 02:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"We'll give you all this money if you don't deport our illegial workers"


[09-Jul-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More like Home Deport amirite


[09-Jul-19 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was pretty *lowe's* of you


[09-Jul-19 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Jul-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://time.com/5621558/trump-cartoonist-anti-semitic-ben-garrison-social-media-summit/

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President Trump Invited a Cartoonist Known for 'Anti-Semitic' Imag...
A 2017 cartoon was slammed by the Anti-Defamation League for anti-Semitic imagery
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/trump-social-media-anti-semitic.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[09-Jul-19 07:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqqAwTsFtoY
Tommy Robinson went on Alex Jones, (Yeah I know) and is making a public appeal to the United States to take his family into Political Asylum

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Tommy Robinson asks President Trump for political asylum in America
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[09-Jul-19 07:17 AM] Mikey#7286
who the fuck is Tommy Robinson


[09-Jul-19 07:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
He's a British Activist who for 15 years had been claiming that there was child grooming gangs in the uk. He got arrested last year.


[09-Jul-19 07:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
His crime was livestreaming a video on facebook talking about the rampet grooming gangs and the police and press not doing proper coverage of the full scope of how rampant it is.  behind him was a court building where one case had just concluded regarding two convicted  child rapists and while streaming they showed up to go back into court for their sentencing.
just before they stepped inside the court Tommy tried to ask them a few questions while he was live streaming. the convicted rapists yelled sexual slurs at him and then went inside for their sentancing


[09-Jul-19 07:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
later Tommy got arrested and sentance 2 years in prison


[09-Jul-19 07:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he spent three months in it before being released after the AG found the arrest faulty. So they put him on trial again


[09-Jul-19 07:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and now he's been found guilty again after throwing out the old charges and now saying he gave the two felons anxiety.


[09-Jul-19 07:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
both times the case was done without a jury and was done with only a proscutor and a judge. No lawyer wanted to represent Tommy.


[09-Jul-19 07:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So now after being found guilty again. he's making a appeal for the United States to intervene and grant his family asylum as he fears he will die in prison and his family being in danger.


[09-Jul-19 07:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@Mikey


[09-Jul-19 07:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's a lot of  negative media press on him. But in my opinion, love him or hate him, he's being unfairly tried in the UK court system


[09-Jul-19 07:31 AM] Mikey#7286
hmmm


[09-Jul-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr he broke the law and can't find a lawyer willing to represent him


[09-Jul-19 08:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
here's the full 56 min appeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMYNqaZZjpU

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[09-Jul-19 11:45 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Also worth mentioning is that the UK doesnt give right to a jury (but common law rights! - imagine thinking they hold any weight)


[09-Jul-19 12:13 PM] byte[]#2610
He directly violated a court order


[09-Jul-19 12:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know how else to tell you that if you break a court order that obviously the representation available to you is going to be next to nothing


[09-Jul-19 12:15 PM] byte[]#2610
And you're probably not going to walk


[09-Jul-19 12:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Contempt of court is a serious charge


[09-Jul-19 01:44 PM] Crow#5457
at least, it is in the rest of the world, in the US it's the lightest slap on the wrist for corrupt rich people


[09-Jul-19 03:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Imagine giving a convicted felon anxiety


[09-Jul-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait a minute


[09-Jul-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ben Garrison is real?


[09-Jul-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As in, those cartoons are serious?


[09-Jul-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I always thought they were parodies and edits...


[09-Jul-19 03:22 PM] ononim#8141
They were


[09-Jul-19 03:22 PM] ononim#8141
at first


[09-Jul-19 03:22 PM] ononim#8141
/pol/ made edits of his cartoons at first?


[09-Jul-19 03:23 PM] ononim#8141
Like you know the(in)famous one, with pyramid marching left right and people who it trumples go "next time I will be sure to vode democrat/republican"


[09-Jul-19 03:23 PM] ononim#8141
in the original pyramid is "just" iluminati style establishment


[09-Jul-19 03:23 PM] ononim#8141
pol shoped it into "merchant" (you know which)


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
And a lot other nazi edits


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
and Ben was mad at it


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
tried to sue


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
But


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
As time gone


[09-Jul-19 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
and madness what is 2016 US election


[09-Jul-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
He become more and more unhinged and crazy


[09-Jul-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
Mind what he was a crank to begin with


[09-Jul-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
But more of usual run of the mill libertarian crank


[09-Jul-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fd2f738e59974dad9ec227bd1d7ad132

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Amy McGrath running for Mitch McConnell's US Senate seat
WASHINGTON (AP) — Amy McGrath, a Marine combat aviator who narrowly lost a House race to an incumbent Republican in Kentucky, has set her sights on an even more formidable target: Senate Majority...
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[09-Jul-19 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
i see


[09-Jul-19 03:30 PM] ononim#8141
So nowadys he makes cartoons what would pass for less blatnant of /pol/ edits (as in not openly calling for race wars againse De Juden) what he would get mad at years ago


[09-Jul-19 03:30 PM] ononim#8141
Isn't internet fun?


[09-Jul-19 03:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It really is not


[09-Jul-19 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48921243

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Trump: UK ambassador 'a very stupid guy'
Sir Kim will no longer attend a White House meeting with Ivanka Trump on Tuesday, the BBC has been told.
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[09-Jul-19 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
how is this the reality we're in


[09-Jul-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://time.com/5621375/russia-trump-parade/

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Russian State-Run Media Mocked President Trump's July 4 'Salute to...
They said military machinery was held together with "adhesive tape" and covered with "peeling paint"
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[09-Jul-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's attempt to fuel his ego and show off to russia was mocked by the russian media


[09-Jul-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and probably putin as well, but putin didn't show his mocking to public


[09-Jul-19 04:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Steyer is officially running


[09-Jul-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm still waiting for the surprise last minute announcement from the clintons


[09-Jul-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she said she wouldnt run again, but a lot of politicians say they won;t do things and then do thme last minute anyway


[09-Jul-19 04:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chelsea maybe


[09-Jul-19 04:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is she old enough


[09-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Steyer only is getting attention because rich and massive funding of an organization promoting impeachment


[09-Jul-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep she's 39


[09-Jul-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think steyer also said he had no interest in running and is now running anyway


[09-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well he's rich enough to force himself through


[09-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And obnoxious enough to get attention


[09-Jul-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, he can also pay for his own media attention


[09-Jul-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so there's no real way to cover him up with other candidates


[09-Jul-19 04:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it's somewhat of a novelty because of his org


[09-Jul-19 04:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of snarky free media coverage


[09-Jul-19 04:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh, what are you going to run on? Impeaching Trump once you win?"


[09-Jul-19 04:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, we're down to four candidates at most


[09-Jul-19 04:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden, Harris, Sanders, and Warren


[09-Jul-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still hoping sanders, or warren. predicting full well,  it will be biden


[09-Jul-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m half surprised biden isn;t jsut wearing an obama mask to every event he attends


[09-Jul-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hels using obama as a costume enough to warrant it


[09-Jul-19 04:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/452164-dont-dismiss-tom-steyer-hes-the-most-media-savvy-candidate-going

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Don't dismiss Tom Steyer: He's the most media-savvy candidate going
Steyer seems to understand how to use media to cut through the noise.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/steyertom_102417getty_lead.jpg


[09-Jul-19 04:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It begins


[09-Jul-19 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden really is tanking tho


[09-Jul-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
watch biden still manage to win


[09-Jul-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48908766

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48908766
'The kids emptied our bank account playing Fifa'
Fifa players are purchased in packs but it's impossible to see who is in the pack before payment is made.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/E875/production/_107790595_mediaitem107790276.jpg


[09-Jul-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
> More parents fall victim to "surprise mechanics" as kids spend £550 on FIFA in a day


[09-Jul-19 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, did the court  buy the "surprise mechanics" shit?


[09-Jul-19 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
The intent is to provide EA with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different fines and penalties


[09-Jul-19 05:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't it a drop in ocean for them?


[09-Jul-19 05:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can kind of see EAs argument


[09-Jul-19 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem is gamers tbh


[09-Jul-19 05:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Reminds me of this anecdote:
```
A man walks in a bar and orders a shot of brandy
Bartender pours a shot and passes to the man.
"Hold a minute," says the man, showing his badge of whatever authority he works at. "This is a check up."
The man measures the amount of liquid and says:
"You missed by a lot, this means fine for your establishment".
The bartender pays the fine and the man leaves.
The story repeats the next week. And then again.
The man asks, why he keeps doing this and paying fines.
The bartender replies:
"If I will change my habitat, I will stop saving on alcohol."
```


[09-Jul-19 05:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Complaining about kids gambling when places like Chuck E Cheese exist tbh


[09-Jul-19 05:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some involve skill some are luck


[09-Jul-19 06:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The gamers are not problem.


[09-Jul-19 06:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The parents are problems,  who link their credit card to the system.


[09-Jul-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
no, the gamers are the problem


[09-Jul-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
if you want to stop having μtx you're going to have to get comfortable with paying a lot more for a good game


[09-Jul-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other problem is people with gambling addiction issues


[09-Jul-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
severe gambling addicts, and children are EA's 2 biggest targets with this scheme


[09-Jul-19 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the children can totally just stop playing or have the game confiscated, but the gambling addicts are harder to seperate form the game


[09-Jul-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though some children end up becoming gambling addicts due to these games


[09-Jul-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
predatory marketing is one hell of a dark scam


[09-Jul-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
saying it;s easy to stop playing the games is one thing, actually quitting them is harder


[09-Jul-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
games with heavily implemented loot box systems take advantage of people by putting them into a sunken cost fallacy spiral, giving the player a rush when they finally get the one thing they were after, and in the case of collector compeltionists: locking a lot of the collection behind a paywall so they have to  buy the boxes to get completionsist satisfaction


[09-Jul-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is likely what thye mean by "a sense of pride and accomplishment" they were likely talking to completionists


[09-Jul-19 07:55 PM] Mikey#7286
Gamers are not the problem


[09-Jul-19 07:56 PM] Mikey#7286
Raising the price of AAA games will also not stop EA/Activision from shoving mtx and other monetizations in


[09-Jul-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Might stop others, though


[09-Jul-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Mikey I don't know why you don't think gamers are the problem


[09-Jul-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
All the evidence I have points to the fact that yes, they are the problem


[09-Jul-19 08:02 PM] Mikey#7286
For buying this shit maybe


[09-Jul-19 08:02 PM] Mikey#7286
But I think most are smart enuff not to


[09-Jul-19 08:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because gamers understand what is a good game.
Non-gamers sponsor the circus.


[09-Jul-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
No, for thinking base prices above $60 are exploitative or whatever


[09-Jul-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
gamers rise up


[09-Jul-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
And yes, I get that there are companies that do that and give you microtransactions


[09-Jul-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not referring to that


[09-Jul-19 08:04 PM] Mikey#7286
It's cool I just won't buy a AAA game if it's $80 or $100


[09-Jul-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Single purchase complete games without DLC or μtx are not coming back unless gamers collectively get that the price has to go up


[09-Jul-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
and it seems like they're not going to


[09-Jul-19 08:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Just don't buy games that you won't play.


[09-Jul-19 08:04 PM] Mikey#7286
The price has not gone up for ages


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
yet costs have


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The cost of production, however, has skyrocketed


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
it's more expensive than ever to make a game


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] Mikey#7286
And yet companies still turn a profit 🤔


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because games are not targeted at niche markets anymore.


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
because of microtransactions and DLC


[09-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
they're exploiting the monetization options they have


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
that involves being unethical


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Big companies that can afford marketing thanks to having a prior warchest or selling mtx


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The publishers sink more into marketing than into actual game.


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
I propose we scale down graphics


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, they have to


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
Morrowind looked fine as it is


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I wish, Onon


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
TF2 still looks amazing


[09-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And hence they try to reach out everyone, and gamers are not everyone.


[09-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But people want to see the pores on people's noses as they snipe them


[09-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There are sensible people who know that they don't need to buy crap. And there are people who buy just because.


[09-Jul-19 08:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's like consumerism thing.


[09-Jul-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
I already play a lot more indies which have far more soul and creativity in them


[09-Jul-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Jul-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
And I play a lot of old games


[09-Jul-19 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
what does that have to do with the argument


[09-Jul-19 08:10 PM] Mikey#7286
If new games go up I won't care


[09-Jul-19 08:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
For instance, back in days, food recipe was true.
Then a big company pitches up and wants to commercialize the food recipe.
Over years, the recipe was marketed and degraded for better profit.
Today, we have crap and no one remembers when the recipe  was true and actually tasty.

Same with the videogames.


[09-Jul-19 08:11 PM] Mikey#7286
I'll just stop buying them


[09-Jul-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Эᴚ|∫ that's pretty damn stupid


[09-Jul-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
But I'm just saying the costs have gone up in the last several years yes but new games have been $60 since like


[09-Jul-19 08:13 PM] Mikey#7286
What? The 90s?


[09-Jul-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only thing worse than a "gamer" is a hipster gamer


[09-Jul-19 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes...


[09-Jul-19 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Why would they just now increase in price?


[09-Jul-19 08:14 PM] Mikey#7286
They should have done it already if you ask me


[09-Jul-19 08:15 PM] Mikey#7286
Idk


[09-Jul-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The market grew fast and large enough to support the price/cost ratio


[09-Jul-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The margins were lower but every year you were selling to more people


[09-Jul-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That stabilized like a decade ago, the market isn't really growing, not in "the west"


[09-Jul-19 08:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[09-Jul-19 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While the costs keep growing


[09-Jul-19 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People want more and more content, better and more detailed art, full VO, orchestral score, zero bugs, 80h of handcrafted, non-random/procedural gameplay


[09-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Mikey#7286
Well ok, I'd buy a game for $80 if it's not a publisher like ea


[09-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, you're better than all those "non real gamers"


[09-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But the mass market that's supported the $60 pricetag for so long wants more and more and more


[09-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Mikey#7286
I'd rather have a smaller game with higher replayability tbh


[09-Jul-19 08:19 PM] ononim#8141
If you can't have fun playing rogue-likes you're not a real gaymer. Discourse


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They are made to believe they want more, that's why I mentioned large marketing investment.


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Instead of a 100 hour game a 30 hour game I'll come back to once a month


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] ononim#8141
Also people who won't buy DF full price when it releases on steam will be the first against the wall


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
DF?


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
I've lost count of the times I've replayed Doom 1


[09-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
What's DF?


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Replaying SimCity 4 here, lol


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] ononim#8141
Dwarf Fortress


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Ah


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm playing through TNT Evilution rn lol


[09-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Final Doom


[09-Jul-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
I kinda want to get into Doom mapmaking lol


[09-Jul-19 08:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But to be honest, I am not gamer anymore as I used to be, or maybe my taste in game choice has changed.


[09-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But one thing I could say, I am no longer support AAA games since mid 00's


[09-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
I buy some


[09-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
New Doom


[09-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Sekiro


[09-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
Dmc


[09-Jul-19 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
It depends on the company and game


[09-Jul-19 08:30 PM] Mikey#7286
I'll generally buy a Fromsoftware game for example


[09-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd be fine with Netflix for games like Stadia if it truly were that


[09-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, monthly fee and access everything


[09-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I'm paying individually I want it forever


[09-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even buying "a license" is better than what Stadia is


[09-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stadia is terrible for consumers


[09-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But, Google


[09-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they pour enough money into it it'll succeed, if they get bored it'll get shut down in 5 years


[09-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Don't like "you are not owning a copy, you are just licensing" bit


[09-Jul-19 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not the appealing part


[09-Jul-19 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the appealing part is that it's the "all you can eat" model


[09-Jul-19 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
like netflix, for example


[09-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Mikey#7286
That's why I despise DRM and prefer to support launchers like GoG


[09-Jul-19 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
this has pretty much fuck all to do with drm


[09-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Cuz you don't technically own your steam games


[09-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes it does?


[09-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Mikey#7286
The "licensing a copy" is exactly what DRM is


[09-Jul-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as bad as Stadia


[09-Jul-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2019/07/08/satanic-temples-adopt-park-sign-vandalized-pensacola-says-group-needs-adopt-different-park/1675259001/

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Satanic Temple's park sign vandalized, Pensacola says group needs ...
Along with paint covering the sign, someone painted on the fence near the sign "Jesus God will crush your hidden Temple, county owes answers."
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[09-Jul-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus God sounds like a regular name to me


[09-Jul-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pronounced Heyzeus Goed


[09-Jul-19 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody ever remembers the Holy Spirit =[


[09-Jul-19 11:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And one more


[10-Jul-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/598226071422369884/9r0lthfo9o831.png

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[10-Jul-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/10108839f8ad4aa2a9f8ae0fd71fcbb4

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Trump defends Acosta but will look into Epstein plea deal
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday he would be looking "very closely" at Labor Secretary Alex Acosta's handling of a sex trafficking case involving now-jailed billionaire...
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[10-Jul-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RepBeatty/status/1148641212087361536

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Joyce Beatty (@RepBeatty)
https://twitter.com/RepBeatty/status/1148641212087361536
Hey teens! Vaping isn’t fleek or fire 🔥🔥🔥, that’s why the State of Ohio launched #MyLifeMyQuit to show you that you don’t need fat clouds ☁️☁️☁️ to be radical! 💯💯💯

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[10-Jul-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I say again:
Social Media
Was
A
Mistake


[10-Jul-19 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SWAM


[10-Jul-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right now we're going through a phase of people clearly "square" being really tryhard and it being just cringy


[10-Jul-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it won't be long until it's just genuine


[10-Jul-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I'm not sure which is worse


[10-Jul-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a7bab51c3e324ee5bbc55a48b683d1a7

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McConnell equates his ancestors' slave ownership to Obama's
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says his family's history of slave ownership doesn't change his opposition to reparations. The Kentucky Republican said Tuesday that...
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[10-Jul-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

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Narcissistic personality disorder - Symptoms and causes
https://www.mayoclinic.org/-/media/Web/GBS/Shared/Images/SocialMedia-Metadata/MC_TwitterCard_120x120.jpg


[10-Jul-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Every single word of this description


[10-Jul-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Screams "TRUMP"


[10-Jul-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You...didn't realize that three years ago?


[10-Jul-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that was mentioned to me in a political psychology seminar lol


[10-Jul-19 05:41 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
https://www.businessinsider.com/winnie-the-pooh-shanghai-disneyland-meme-2018-11

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Winnie the Pooh could be banned from Shanghai Disneyland as a resu...
The process of eliminating all mentions of Winnie the Pooh from Shanghai Disneyland would be a costly one.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c01b47abde70f095d392999-2732-1366.jpg


[10-Jul-19 05:53 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
If those fucking netizens DIDN'T exist, then WTP would have been able to exist up to now.


[10-Jul-19 05:53 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
IN ***CHINA***


[10-Jul-19 05:54 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
I dislike those netizens


[10-Jul-19 05:55 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
Those netizens are 💩


[10-Jul-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
um, that's from 2018


[10-Jul-19 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
this is old lol


[10-Jul-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[10-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1148761751414087680?s=19

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Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence)
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1148761751414087680?s=19
An absolutely stunning racist attack on @IlhanMN from Tucker. I'm shocked

She is "living proof that the way we practice immigration has become dangerous to this country"

She "is a living fire alarm. A warning to the rest of us that we better change our immigration. Or el...
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[10-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You see a legal immigrant is only good if they become my ideology


[10-Jul-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452358-steyers-ad-buy-is-largest-of-democratic-presidential-primary-report

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Steyer rolls out largest TV ad buy of Democratic primary so far: r...
Billionaire Tom Steyer is launching an ad buy with the start of his presidential campaign that will reportedly be larger than that any 2020 Democrat has launched so far.
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[10-Jul-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not seen any ad campaigns thus far


[10-Jul-19 03:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Starting today


[10-Jul-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
joe biden should just make an entire ad where he wears an obama mask and talks about obama era deals and policies, and at the end he takes off the mask and says "Vote for me, I'll be the obama you want, in the biden you'll get"


[10-Jul-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/637bd7eeb9f84b1cb1ed4d2d9571a062

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Judge stops government lawyers quitting census question case
NEW YORK (AP) — The Justice Department can't replace nine lawyers so late in the dispute over whether to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census without explaining why it's doing so, a judge...
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[10-Jul-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2jxkxqpkgd931.jpg

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[10-Jul-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[10-Jul-19 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48937120

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UK ambassador to US resigns in Trump leaks row
Sir Kim Darroch steps down as Boris Johnson faces criticism for not fully backing him.
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[10-Jul-19 06:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Are you a citizen of Derpibooru™


[10-Jul-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/9/mike-rowe-colin-kaepernicks-betsy-ross-objections-/

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Mike Rowe: Colin Kaepernick’s Betsy Ross objections ‘unper
“Somebody’s Gotta Do It” host Mike Rowe said Colin Kaepernick’s reported objections to a now-recalled line of Nike sneakers featuring the Betsy Ross flag are “unpersuasive” and “completely void of logic.”
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[10-Jul-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-07-08/suntrust-is-latest-bank-to-stop-new-financing-of-private-prisons


[10-Jul-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/739906562/u-s-appeals-court-rules-trump-violated-first-amendment-by-blocking-twitter-folo

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The judges upheld a lower court decision that found Trump used the platform for official purposes, which precludes him from banning users because they disagree with his views.
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[10-Jul-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mike Rowe, the guy who couldn't cut a piece of wood


[10-Jul-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who became famous being a fake laborer who did the "jobs" in extremely safe and monitored conditions


[10-Jul-19 07:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[10-Jul-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people forget that the major appeal of the series was seeing him suck at the jobs


[10-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-casualties-idUSKCN1U200Q

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Russian-led assault in Syria leaves over 500 civilians dead: rights...
At least 544 civilians have been killed and over 2,000 people injured since a Ru...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190707&t=2&i=1405379020&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6600W


[10-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the real appeal to that show was the banter


[10-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
one time he trikked a fat blakk woman who cuts oysters with a dangerous knife technique for a living into a lip kiss via reverse cheek turn


[10-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
They ended the episode with that.


[10-Jul-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also one time his stupid shit got him trapped in charcoal for hours


[10-Jul-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
(cause doing the intro  waist deep in charcoal went awry)


[10-Jul-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The show was purely "well-off American asshole comes in to horrible working conditions and mokks everything but makes everybody laff so it's okay"


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure a few of those jobs clearly violated OSHA standards the way they were done


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
A common one being shittons of dust and no respirator.


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought he was the only one who broke that


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, he generally followed what the workers were doing.


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like he'd wear no respirator near charcoal


[10-Jul-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[10-Jul-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is the production requirements set often make it impractical to use safety equipment or safe techniques.


[10-Jul-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then you either break OSHA standards, or you get fired.


[10-Jul-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way, the boss isn't technically liable when you eventually get cancer or such.


[10-Jul-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as the bullshit around welding masks.


[10-Jul-19 08:33 PM] ononim#8141
>deadly strike kills civilians


[10-Jul-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
MIG welding requires a 13-shade, which is so dark you can't see what you're welding in a well-lit room until you start.


[10-Jul-19 08:33 PM] ononim#8141
>now, let's talk about some american banter


[10-Jul-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's about the shade required to safely view a solar eclipse btw


[10-Jul-19 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get why he makes it about himself and not the workers he interacted with anymore


[10-Jul-19 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He used to


[10-Jul-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia is shitty, we know


[10-Jul-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because ratings


[10-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its it was never about them


[10-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were the hook


[10-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you seen his SWEAT pledge thing


[10-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same deal with The Jungle


[10-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mikeroweworks.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/SWEAT-Pledge_rev4-e1539193529479.jpg

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[10-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Americans read book explicitly about how workers are treated like ass, complete with the ending being a blatant author solilquoy about socialism being the solution


[10-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
they go "OH NO OUR MEAT MIGHT HAV CHEMICALS IN IT"


[10-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic


[10-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's "right to work" in a nutshell right there


[10-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I only know this pledge because it's in a Boomer compilation


[10-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
the entire thing puts all responsibility on the employees


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wowo that is super condescending


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd still get fucked if you said a lot of this to your employees


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
11 is where it goes truly off the rails


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like it goes right to the heart of what conservative shitheads truly think


[10-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
that if the world is unfair, we shouldn't do anything about that, because UNFAIRNESS IS NATURAL YOU LIBERAL SCUM HOW DARE YOU IMPUNE NATURE


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The world isn;t fair, get fucked for trying to make your life better, I own all the cards here"


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have conservatives gone to the point of moaning about teaching kids to share yet


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did you forget the 2012 election?


[10-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Romney was saying he would take away funding from PBS


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it taught kids to share


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that was wrong.


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in 2016 a few republicasn still went after pbs for it


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was literally the Republican presidential campaign promise to stop teaching kids to share.


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Along with MORE BOATS MORE BOATS MORE BOATS


[10-Jul-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck they've campaigned to kill libraries because free books are  socialism


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(but then 2016 comes and there's a complete 180 on Russia and military power to stop them, because Trump is in Putin's pokket)


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] ononim#8141
>I believe that I have won the greatest lottery of all time. I am alive, I walk the Earth.


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] ononim#8141
:doubt:


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Romney said Russia was a threat, and Obama was skeptical.


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia then sent in the boys.


[10-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now there's a bunch of Russian money that just happens to line certain pokkets.


[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Food for thought
https://youtu.be/4StALn7O_8k

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TheQuartering
https://youtu.be/4StALn7O_8k
How Free To Play Games Create & Exploit Pay Pigs
Some footage from a game developers convention has been on the internet for years going mostly un-noticed. I decided to fix that. #FreeToPlay #VideoGames
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[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
"How F2P games work"


[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
seriously


[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
like


[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
are people retardede?


[10-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way F2P can even work is if there's some idiot shilling out thousands of dollars after being sukked in by the community.


[10-Jul-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
People should've hated F2P the moment they heard of the concept


[10-Jul-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/76047-trump-renews-bid-to-eliminate-library-funding-nea-and-neh.html trump has repeatedly gone after libraries during his presidency

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Trump Renews Bid to Eliminate Library Funding, NEA, and NEH
The Trump administration has once again proposed the permanent elimination of the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities and the Institute of Museum and Library Services.
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[10-Jul-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but I guess everyone's fukking braindead.


[10-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Republicans *hope* people are dumb


[10-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
dumb people don't question authority and why you hav all the money


[10-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
libraries turn dumb people into slightly less dumb people


[10-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point is that it is even happens not on F2P!


[10-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
better defund the libraries before people vote for someone promising things such as "children not dying of cancer because they couldn't afford treatment"


[10-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It also covered paid games


[10-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[10-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
everyone's making "games as a service" and adding lootboxes now


[10-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
because games are massively inflated on price because there is no effort to simplify their production


[10-Jul-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically AAA has continually sold itself on BETTER GRAPHICS MORE CUSTOM MADE CONTENT


[10-Jul-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not sustainable


[10-Jul-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
At some point, you hav to cap graphics


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to slam the brakes and let technology catch up so virtually the whole game is generated and the game designers just figure out scripting etc.


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
We should had caped graphics decade ago, if not earlier tbh


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's several problems however


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of them is patent law


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
a patent was recently upheld on automatic lip-syncing


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is a problem because the basis of the patent is "this technique, but on a computer"


[10-Jul-19 08:50 PM] ononim#8141
also, unpopular opinion but f2p is not necceary the final judgement to a game


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is supposed to be unpatentable


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
TF2 is okay even tho it's been f2p for years


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just put the equation on a computer and patent it


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hav an army of lawyers


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
I hear Warframe and Path of Exile are pretty okay too


[10-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can bullshit your way into preventing competition


[10-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was a patent on LOADING SCREEN MINIGAMES for a while, as well


[10-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
games are being massively fukked by patent law


[10-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen the good f2p games, but soon or later they roll into grinders or P2W


[10-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But the main point is that once commercialization element steps in, everything rolls to whatever in the presentation was.


[10-Jul-19 08:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The same as you can think of an art. 
Art value vs Money value


[10-Jul-19 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
everything is being massively fukked by patent law*


[10-Jul-19 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
FTFY


[10-Jul-19 08:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why I mentioned yesterday, that the companies dump more into marketing than into games. And it is not just marketing, but a series of tricks on mind.


[10-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the main point of marketing to make whoever to buy the product fact and not present the product.


[10-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why grafiks are important.


[10-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is selling point for those who don't know a jack about gaming.


[10-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Example are in E3, where they presented one thing and sold something else.


[10-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And hence, that's why gamers are not a problem. They're are just 5% of audience.


[10-Jul-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/07/10/739925186/years-after-sexual-assault-survivors-hounded-to-pay-bills-for-the-rape-kit-exam

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Years After Sexual Assault, Survivors Hounded To Pay Bills For The...
Under federal law, people sexually assaulted don't have to pay for their medical forensic exams. Yet some have trouble getting the hospitals or collection agencies to stop dunning them for payment.
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[10-Jul-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey http://patentarcade.com/2019/01/mcro-v-namco-bandai-round-2.html


[10-Jul-19 09:38 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Jul-19 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/haskologlu/status/1149045319449153536

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🔴— HAPPENING NOW

Military vehicles belonging to the Turkish Armed Forces entered the Syria / Jarablus region from Gaziantep.
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Twitter


[10-Jul-19 10:49 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Jul-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.insider.com/mueller-report-rewritten-trump-russia-mark-bowden-archer-2019-7

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We hired the author of 'Black Hawk Down' and an illustrator from '...
It feels like nobody read the Mueller report. That's a shame, because it's an important document, depicting possible crimes by a sitting US president.
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[11-Jul-19 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ea1bb416bc9c4f319f7eae9b57c0b8b1

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Boris Johnson says he's not to blame for ambassador's ouster
LONDON (AP) — Boris Johnson, the man likely to become U.K. prime minister within weeks, on Thursday denied playing any role in the departure of Britain's ambassador to Washington, who quit after...
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[11-Jul-19 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt think it was borris johnson but now that he;s said soemthing about it, that puts way more suspicion on him...


[11-Jul-19 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/18db0fba2743496daeb27a92915bb260

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Trump to hold news conference on census citizenship question
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said he'll hold a news conference Thursday to talk about the 2020 census and his push to include a question on citizenship. A Supreme Court ruling...
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[11-Jul-19 02:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/07/09/dojs-inspector-general-report-on-russia-delayed-as-steele-found-credible/

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DOJ's Inspector General report on Russia delayed as Steele found c...
Justice Department lawyers interviewed Christopher Steele in the U.K. in early June
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[11-Jul-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump on his 4th of july event: “Based on its tremendous success, we’re just making the decision - and I can think we can say we’ve made the decision - to do it again next year, and, maybe we can say, for the foreseeable future,” Trump told reporters.


[11-Jul-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good a city bankrupting event every fucking year


[11-Jul-19 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dc-security-fund-dangerously-depleted-trumps-july-4th/story?id=64244258

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DC security fund dangerously depleted after Trump's July 4th event...
Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser has told the White House the city's security fund is dangerously depleted after President Donald Trump's July 4th event.
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[11-Jul-19 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking so you're saying that hookers probably peed on him


[11-Jul-19 03:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably


[11-Jul-19 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What else was in that?


[11-Jul-19 04:53 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Wanna know what's great bout murica no money to pay bills when you get ill


[11-Jul-19 04:53 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I'm gonna be In debt with these people


[11-Jul-19 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-spiderman-child-death-tombstone-20190711-x6s4ltotcbhhlko3zqq4he4ghy-story.html%3foutputType=amp

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Tens of thousands sign online petitions asking Disney to allow Spi...
Doting dad devastated when Disney rejects his plea to put an etching of Spider-Man, his son's hero, on the 4-year-old's gravestone.
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[11-Jul-19 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
Skin the mouse


[11-Jul-19 05:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They did something not as bad in Florida decades ago when a preschool painted Disney characters on a mural and they made them remove it


[11-Jul-19 05:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So WB stepped in and let them use Bugs Bunny


[11-Jul-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/040b015baf0b4292bc141cd888df6602

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US poised to begin immigration enforcement operation
WASHINGTON (AP) — A nationwide immigration enforcement operation targeting people who are in the United States illegally is expected to begin this weekend after it was postponed last month by...
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[11-Jul-19 06:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why is the city bankrupt lmao
Just get a job lmao


[11-Jul-19 06:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:dab:


[11-Jul-19 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://thenewinquiry.com/united-states-v-scott-daniel-warren/

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Liz Kinnamon
https://thenewinquiry.com/united-states-v-scott-daniel-warren/
United States v. Scott Daniel Warren
To refuse to be the border is to resist locating what scares or excites you as
entirely outside of yourself.
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[11-Jul-19 07:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Jul-19 07:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://boingboing.net/2019/07/10/hateful-content.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2019/07/10/hateful-content.html
French politicians want to add an ag-gag rule to the country's swe...
French politicians want to add an ag-gag rule to the country's sweeping online hate speech proposal
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[11-Jul-19 07:43 PM] ononim#8141
``` To watch this in action, have a look at France's proposed "hate speech" laws, which require platforms to remove any "hateful content" within 24 hours; as this rule has progressed through the French legislature, politicians have perceived an opportunity to add all kinds of dubious ideas and sentiments to the nebulous "hateful content" category, introducing a flood of amendments to the bill.

One such amendment, introduced by "Mr. Le Fur, Mr. Abad, Mr. Bazin, Mr. Brun, Mr. Cinieri, Mr. Cordier, Mr. Pierre-Henri Dumont, Mr. Hetzel, Mr. Kamardine, Mr. Perrut, Mr. Quentin, Mr. Sermier and M. Viala" expands the definition of "hateful content" to include "stigmatizing agricultural activities, breeding or sale of products from agriculture and livestock breeding and inciting acts of intrusion or violence vis-à-vis professionals of agriculture, livestock breeding and the processing and sale of products from these sectors."

This is functionally indistinguishable from the Ag-Gag laws passed by various US state legislatures, which are used to criminalize animal rights activists who document unsanitary and inhumane conditions in agricultural enterprises. French law already criminalizes breaking and entering and death threats, so the only thing this amendment ads is an obligation on online platforms to censor anything that puts the industry in a bad light. ```


[11-Jul-19 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Jul-19 09:28 PM] Korato#3012
Livestream of the Social Media Summit. The speech is starting soon:
https://youtu.be/fAsqA6lvr8k
Twitter is probaply down atm to supress this.

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🔴 LIVE: President Trump URGENT Speech on Social Media BIAS at t...
LIVE: President Trump URGENT Speech on Social Media BIAS at the White House LIVE NOW: President Trump URGENT Speech on Social Media BIAS at the White House L...
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[11-Jul-19 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
sites go down for all sorts of reasons, someone at twitter probably just fucked up


[11-Jul-19 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
hanlon's razor


[11-Jul-19 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
also


[11-Jul-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
if social media algorithms have determined that you are indistinguishable from a hardline racist, right-wing terrorist or a neo-nazi, and they ban you


[11-Jul-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
how is the problem them?


[11-Jul-19 09:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/_3GJYkuOq0w

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Mr Atheist
https://youtu.be/_3GJYkuOq0w
Egypt is Keeping a Trans Woman in a Male Prison for NO GOOD REASON!!!
Malak al-Kashef is being kept in a male prison despite being a transgender woman and all for the crime of vocalizing support for peaceful protests. During he...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_3GJYkuOq0w/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jul-19 09:49 PM] Korato#3012
Never said thats a problem. Sites have thier householder's rights afterall. I just think its interesting that they went down at the exact right moment lol


[11-Jul-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1149260810222485504

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The New York Times (@nytimes)
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1149260810222485504
Water is easy to take for granted. Yet the prospect of shortages in the years ahead could make water a precious commodity. That represents an opportunity for investors. https://t.co/04ELDp7hZs
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[11-Jul-19 11:16 PM] ononim#8141
discord, where's my previews


[11-Jul-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_NFvcrXkAAy3j6.jpg

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[11-Jul-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're taking way longer than usual.


[11-Jul-19 11:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Byte is a shareholder


[11-Jul-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/18db0fba2743496daeb27a92915bb260

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Trump turning to non-census avenue on citizenship question
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is expected to drop his bid to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, according to a House Republicans aide. Trump instead will pursue other...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/730cd6596e9448e6837ba263aa78fe3a/3000.jpeg


[12-Jul-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[12-Jul-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6bffba9456e5419190a5478117b30607

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https://apnews.com/6bffba9456e5419190a5478117b30607
Trump applauds far-right social media provocateurs
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump used a White House conference Thursday to applaud far-right social media provocateurs even as he conceded that some of them are extreme in their...
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[12-Jul-19 03:38 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So air conditioning is sexist?


[12-Jul-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[12-Jul-19 03:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/jorge-plaza/2019/07/08/first-world-feminists-air-conditioning-sexist

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https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/jorge-plaza/2019/07/08/first-world-feminists-air-conditioning-sexist
First World Feminists: Air-Conditioning Is ‘Sexist’
In an Afghan village, terrorists throw acid on little girls’ faces, poison their water, and hurl grenades into their classrooms to stop them from going to school. In an American office, some women are a little chilly. For first world radical feminists, the latter issue take...
https://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/sexist_ac.jpg


[12-Jul-19 03:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I do not agree with this


[12-Jul-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[12-Jul-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"it's chilly, THE MEN MUST HATE US!"


[12-Jul-19 04:36 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Oh gods, sooooooooo many people are gonna get shot if they seriously do this
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/11/us/alien-march-facebook-event-trnd/index.html

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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/11/us/alien-march-facebook-event-trnd/index.html
Thousands of people have taken a Facebook pledge to storm Area 51 ...
Get your tin foil hats ready and stretch those quads.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150911074741-area-51-family-land-vs-military-orig-00013712-super-tease.jpg


[12-Jul-19 05:00 AM] Litrojia#0612
They won't


[12-Jul-19 05:31 AM] Mikey#7286
people aren't actually shot just taken off and fined heavily and given a misdemeanor


[12-Jul-19 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they wont get shot, they may get tazed though if thye try to brute force their way through


[12-Jul-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/354477431576461313/598712057562529792/image0.png

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[12-Jul-19 06:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[12-Jul-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
News that got a bit lost in the shuffle https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/24/supreme-court-ban-scandalous-immoral-trademarks-1378321

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/24/supreme-court-ban-scandalous-immoral-trademarks-1378321
SCOTUS strikes down ban on ‘scandalous’ and ‘immoral’ trad...
The decision won the full backing of six of the justices.
https://static.politico.com/98/81/6458f0b0448b8ab27095c1914311/190528-supreme-court-gty-773.jpg


[12-Jul-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the judges mostly agreed that those terms are vague as shit and boil down to discrimination on views, as ultimately what people consider scandalous/immoral is by viewpoint and not really anything firm.


[12-Jul-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few dissented saying "scandalous" might be definable, but was just too vague in the law as written.


[12-Jul-19 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC there was an implication that the absolute worst racial slurs would still be refused


[12-Jul-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[12-Jul-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ruling that actually got made essentially nullifies that section of the law, @Itsthinking


[12-Jul-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the previous ruling in favor of The Slants implied that the absolute worst slurs would still be refused


[12-Jul-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
as that was the position of the USPTO after SCOTUS said "The Slants" was okay to trademark.


[12-Jul-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This ruling **completely removes** the prohibition on scandalous/immoral trademarks.


[12-Jul-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to trademark "lynch those fucking niggerfaggots", USPTO can't refuse it because of it being offensive.


[12-Jul-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah that's right


[12-Jul-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/dI_BLG__wY8

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WhitestFanUKnow
https://youtu.be/dI_BLG__wY8
WKUK - Our Label Is Run By Homos
From Season 2 Episode 6 whitestkids.com
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[12-Jul-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a survey made by trump

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[12-Jul-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/2020-trump-vs-dem-poll


[12-Jul-19 12:34 PM] byte[]#2610
an aide most likely


[12-Jul-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Responses Recorded.
The launch of President Trump's campaign was an EPIC success, but liberals are already trying to take us down.

The RADICIAL leftist socialists won't stop until they turn America in to a SOCIALIST COUNTRY. We can't let that happen.

Contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to stand by President Trump and DEFEND CAPITALISM. 

this is the message you get after submitting


[12-Jul-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capiotalism can die for all i care


[12-Jul-19 12:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you think they're going to report the poll results accurately?


[12-Jul-19 12:36 PM] byte[]#2610
or at all?


[12-Jul-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[12-Jul-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just wanted to see the message i;d get, i didntr give them any information of use


[12-Jul-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
donotreply@yahoo.com is jsut as useful as an actuall email


[12-Jul-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4afbfcaa2df3405b8257ad9502609886

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China imports from US plunge 31% in June amid tariff war
BEIJING (AP) — China's imports from the United States plunged in June amid a tariff war with Washington while exports to the U.S. market weakened. Imports of U.S. goods fell 31.4% from a...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/3aa4c80dcfea479eb21501bc240c6fd4/3000.jpeg


[12-Jul-19 12:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/12/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-to-appoint-son-as-ambassador-to-us

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Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro to appoint son as  ambassador to US
Eduardo Bolsonaro, a congressman, has strong links to the Trump administration and American far right
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/12a854a04f09488b6bee4cdec1fbdf2eedafdbff/0_0_3500_2101/master/3500.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&enable=upscale&s=c96fed235073109ddca4436d937e1b61


[12-Jul-19 01:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Note that Bolsonaro's country already has an extensive diplomat training system, that Eduardo has no prior experience with foreign relations, and that nepotism can be safely interpreted as a crime under the Brazilian constitution (yet the courts, elitist as they are, aren't lifting even an eyebrow).


[12-Jul-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am shocked! brazilian Trump doing exactly as american trump would do? Truly a surprise


[12-Jul-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously though, that is a common theme with a lot of dictators, get in power, throw the rules to the curb, establish your own by stacking the courts and  establish a family run royal dynasty instead of a presidency. Trump is even doing this with Ivanka, Trump Jr, and jared kushner


[12-Jul-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least Trump is trying, So far Ivanka has not been well received as a diplomatic envoy, and most leaders at the G20 summit felt very insulted by her presence in lue of Trump's


[12-Jul-19 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course Jair will likely receive a much warmer reception from Trump, who doesnlt give a fuck about actuall ambassadors and sees family ties as a job credential


[12-Jul-19 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/016dc017674b44918e01ffa71998b5d7

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The Latest: China opposes unilateral sanctions on Iran
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — The Latest on the tensions between the United States and Iran (all times local): 3:35 p.m. China says it opposes unilateral sanctions against Iran and criticized...
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[12-Jul-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-china/taiwan-president-in-u-s-after-warning-of-threat-from-overseas-forces-idUSKCN1U60J2?il=0

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Taiwan president in U.S. after warning of threat from 'overseas...
Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen arrived in the United States on Thursday on a t...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190712&t=2&i=1407048506&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6B002


[12-Jul-19 02:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://reason.com/2019/07/11/this-cop-is-getting-2500-a-month-because-killing-an-unarmed-man-in-a-hotel-hallway-gave-him-ptsd/

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This Cop Is Getting $2,500 a Month Because Killing an Unarmed Man ...
Phillip Brailsford was acquitted of murder for a shooting captured on video that subsequently drew national outrage. Now he's getting paid for it.
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/brailsford_1161x653-1161x630.jpg


[12-Jul-19 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[12-Jul-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, no he shoudl be in jail for that shit


[12-Jul-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 also here's the context for his acquitted murder charge incase anyone has not seen it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
Disturbing video shows unarmed man begging before fatal police sho...
In disturbing 2016 body-cam video released by Mesa Police, unarmed man Daniel Shaver is seen crawling and begging before former officer Philip Brailsford fat...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OflGwyWcft8/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Jul-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This video is the cut short version, i;m unsure if i;m allowed to share the full footage on discord. It's on youtube though if you're curious


[12-Jul-19 02:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-the-next-big-inequality-crisis-mckinsey-automation-0cac2a56-efbf-408a-9550-77bc1219ba3c.html

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Exclusive: The next big inequality crisis
The 25 most prosperous cities that have led the recovery from the Great Recession are poised to claim 60% of job growth through 2030, according to a new McKinsey report
https://images.axios.com/N7AV07rm4Gw09GQ4bKsk8KAYByc=/0x0:1600x900/1920x1080/2019/07/11/1562805891921.png


[12-Jul-19 03:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why this map using Twilight colors


[12-Jul-19 04:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural Poverty is Magic


[12-Jul-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my little income: rurals are homeless


[12-Jul-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/nkrryo9e0v931.jpg

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[12-Jul-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
ving fasc


[12-Jul-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ncid pollut


[12-Jul-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/labor-secretary-wants-slash-funding-050017218.html

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Trump labor secretary who cut Epstein deal plans to slash funds fo...
Democrats condemn as ‘amoral’ Alex Acosta’s proposed 80% funding cut for US agency that combats child sex trafficking Us labor secretary Alexander Acosta has proposed a drastic cut to the International Labor Affairs Bureau that experts say would put the lives of childre...
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/p3JVQUZbQAb8_hPb4TtwaA--~B/aD0zMDA7dz01MDA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https:/media.zenfs.com/en-GB/the_guardian_765/118425dea80474cac5b1f97839f864b3


[12-Jul-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3a7a410da139483db4e46790320b0e8a

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https://apnews.com/3a7a410da139483db4e46790320b0e8a
Trump defends Pelosi in her fight with freshmen Democrats
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is getting support from an unlikely source — the president — in her fight with freshmen Democrats. Republican Donald Trump is defending top...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/9bbd59c0794d4bd981ed55c480da678a/3000.jpeg


[12-Jul-19 07:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRwr-u0GHIM
here's the recording of the summit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRwr-u0GHIM
LIVE: President Trump Remarks at Social Media Summit 7-11-19
Thursday, July 11, 2019: Watch live as President Trump delivers remarks at the White House social media summit, focusing on "tremendous dishonesty, bias, dis...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kRwr-u0GHIM/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Jul-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/452814-nancy-pelosi-runs-do-nothing-plan-that-could-cost-democrats-in-2020

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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/452814-nancy-pelosi-runs-do-nothing-plan-that-could-cost-democrats-in-2020
Nancy Pelosi runs 'do nothing' plan that could cost Democrats in 2020
Her caucus should launch an impeachment investigation to harm the president ahead of the election.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_060519gn2_lead.jpg


[12-Jul-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if they attempt to defeat trump now, then what brave hero will defeat him in 2020?


[12-Jul-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with impeachment anyway is that if they keep running with biden as their front runner, they're screwed anyway


[12-Jul-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if Trump is their meal ticket that makes thme look like saints comparatively, it;s nothing if you dont do anything to try and stop him...


[12-Jul-19 10:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj2nzV9BAh0

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj2nzV9BAh0
Interview with a Condemned Man
While I was in the US, Callum and Jon managed to interview Tommy Robinson shortly before his sentence was announced. Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitch...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dj2nzV9BAh0/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Jul-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/white-houses-science-division-completely-empty/

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https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/white-houses-science-division-completely-empty/
The White House's Science Division Is Now Completely Empty
Despite the veritable purge of scientists and science communication that has characterized the Trump administration, the White House still has an Office of
https://cdn.iflscience.com/images/25c3c6c8-be8d-5565-bdb3-cd0fc7134d6b/default-1498944626-cover-image.jpg


[12-Jul-19 11:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>*First established in 1976 by Congress, it is designed to provide the President and others with “advice on the scientific, engineering, and technological aspects of the economy, national security, homeland security, health, foreign relations, the environment, and the technological recovery and use of resources, among other topics.”*


[13-Jul-19 12:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Well, now we know why it's gone


[13-Jul-19 12:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...huh. 2017.


[13-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Has it really been that long?


[13-Jul-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[13-Jul-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam was 50 years ago, Maru


[13-Jul-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon WWII will be *80* years ago.


[13-Jul-19 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I meant the article date >:V


[13-Jul-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, also yes.


[13-Jul-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has been in office like three years now man


[13-Jul-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the whole time it's felt like a dream


[13-Jul-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
like some bad nightmare that should hav ended already


[13-Jul-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was and kind of still am defeatist until I realized how easily he Blue Wall could be rebuilt


[13-Jul-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And how massively unpopular Collins, McConnell, and the Republican Colorado senator are


[13-Jul-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2018 showed that fragile senators can't rely on being incumbent


[13-Jul-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully mcconnell bites it in his politidcal career


[13-Jul-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure he'll just go on to be a director on a pharmaceutical board somewhere though


[13-Jul-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta be in a position to jusr raise those prices even higher


[13-Jul-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially for children medication


[13-Jul-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hope he just plain dies.


[13-Jul-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me too


[13-Jul-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not getting any younger and him amassing more power is very bad because he can choose a successor.


[13-Jul-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's unpopular


[13-Jul-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s been unpopular for decades, but no one;s voted him out


[13-Jul-19 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1149798895955914753

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This is WRONG. Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Confederate general & a delegate to the 1868 Democratic Convention. He was also a slave trader & the 1st Grand Wizard of the KKK. Tennessee should not have an official day (tomorrow) honoring him. Change the law. https://t.co/XBg...
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[13-Jul-19 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ted's seemingly not being so bad rn


[13-Jul-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ted Cruz is the sort who will oppose only the most blatant stuff


[13-Jul-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but will bend over for the party as it goes about its moderate racism.


[13-Jul-19 06:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[13-Jul-19 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/07/12/house-votes-to-curb-trumps-war-powers-challenging-senate-to-act/

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House votes to curb Trump’s war powers, challenging Senate to act
The House has passed legislation with limits on President Donald Trump’s ability to strike Iran without the consent of Congress.
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[13-Jul-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/cjane87/status/1149843500164427778

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@Neoavatara @tedcruz @pegobry I didn’t know you could honor so many participation trophy recipients in one year.
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[13-Jul-19 07:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_a4z0I878

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Donald Trump: 'The kidney has a very special place in the heart'
Donald Trump has claimed that 'the kidney has a very special place in the heart' as he announced a government plan to tackle kidney disease. The president’s ...
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[13-Jul-19 07:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't tell if he's being literal or figurative...


[13-Jul-19 07:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm hoping figurative


[13-Jul-19 07:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i have no idea what he signed in this video


[13-Jul-19 07:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/79162166468c46b1aa6841eb40a7e48e

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Special counsel Mueller's testimony delayed until July 24
WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller's testimony to Congress has been delayed until July 24 under an agreement that gives lawmakers more time to question him. Mueller had been...
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[13-Jul-19 07:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tomorrow's headlines: *Trump delays ICE arrest raid until july 24th! cites unforseen circumstances.*


[13-Jul-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 delayed again for a 4 hour questioning session


[13-Jul-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I think they could go all day long and they wouldn't run out of questions for him


[13-Jul-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/how-does-blue-wall-look-2020

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How Does the "Blue Wall" Look for 2020? | The Cook Political Report
There’s something of a consensus forming that the 'easiest' or least risky electoral path for the Democratic nominee in 2020 is to reconstruct the so-called "Blue Wall" in the industrial midwest. If the Democratic nominee wins every state Hillary Clinton carried in 2016, pl...
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[13-Jul-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait wait wait wait...there is a man named BERNIE PORN? And he's a pollster?

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[13-Jul-19 11:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-48969781

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Gunmen storm Somali hotel killing 26 people
TV journalist Hodan Nalayeh is widely reported to be among those killed in the attack.
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[13-Jul-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48972327

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Facebook to be fined record $5bn, reports say
US regulators are said to have approved a penalty against Facebook over a data protection scandal.
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[13-Jul-19 04:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48973861

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Met Police criticised over press leak warning
Editors react angrily to police warning that publishing leaked diplomatic emails may be "criminal".
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[13-Jul-19 05:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/climate-change-devastating-central-america-driving-migrants-u-s-border-n1027411

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Climate change is devastating Central America, driving migrants to...
Farmers in rural Honduras and Guatemala are living on the edge of hunger, not knowing if the next harvest will come.
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[13-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's interesting, the British press normally are not seen as having the right to keep gov't secrets for publishing, altho they can publish based off secrets provided.


[13-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like with the Snowden stuff, police came to take drills to hard drives


[13-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
This signals a perception shift, that that wouldn't be okay today.


[13-Jul-19 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, funny how Republicans decided to fine Facebook the amount it was expecting instead of the higher amounts Democrats wanted, pleasing investors, while at the same time Republicans are the ones constantly whining about Facebook


[13-Jul-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's almost as if they don't really care about data protection and don't want to hurt future income from the tech sector lobbying them...funny that.


[13-Jul-19 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/45518f0a8c7b4a6f949b73714139474a

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California lawmakers consider new rules for political ads
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Elections come and go, but the season for political advertising sometimes seems to never end. Facebook users in California, for example, may have noticed ads in...
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[13-Jul-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Youch, that would absolutely cripple things like trans rights pushes


[13-Jul-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You wouldn't be able to get any decent money into it because then the whole source of it would be exposed, and this would apply to anything talking about any issue


[13-Jul-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like a PSA about seatbelt safety could be seen as taking a political position, and would need to then disclose a ton of shit


[13-Jul-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You wouldn't be able to put up something talking about how someone got bullied, because if you even hinted at the idea of legislation, you'd need to disclose everything in it.


[13-Jul-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, of course, this is intended to be aimed at Russia to stop them from stirring shit


[13-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it'd seriously undermine the 1st amendment and the political flow to do so.


[13-Jul-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where in the First Amendment does it say that you're entitled to be anonymous while you do it


[13-Jul-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO if you spend one cent trying to influence public opinion like this you are not entitled to anonymity.


[13-Jul-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, even for something like a seat belt safety ad


[13-Jul-19 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As long as this applies to everyone I don't see an issue. Of course we're going to see ads about trans rights that were funded by the ACLU and Lambda and gun ads funded by the NRA


[13-Jul-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This just takes away dumb shell groups designed to help confuse the public


[13-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is that it's virtually impossible to get public attention at all without $10k


[13-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even for extremely serious issues


[13-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
This has the effect that *anything* that would actually grab public attention that isn't a news story would need revealing lots of information.


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, it's the price they pay if they want issue ads. No one is making them do it


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be much more sane if only large donors were revealed, particularly organizations/companies


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say the ACLU or the NRA funded this ad


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not hard


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ACLU and NRA want the publicity


[13-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is when you're a company normally not dedicated to the issue


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you decide to help out the little guy


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well that's the price you pay


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
now you can get severe negative publicity


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequence


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or public opinion


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Practically nobody is going to donate to an ad about trans rights if their name has to be plastered all over it.


[13-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If Wal-Mart wants to fund a RTW ad I want to know Wal-Mart did it


[13-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If Taco Bell decided to fund a pro LGBT ad I want that as well


[13-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're letting partisan bias cloud your judgment.


[13-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want it for everyone though


[13-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You've got to realize that fundamentally, making it harder to push issue ads makes it harder to get legislation so much as considered to be written.


[13-Jul-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would put the brakes on all but the most entrenched issues like those of the ACLU and NRA


[13-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There would be practically no movement on things like human rights and voting law


[13-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In practice wouldn't this just be like "yep Koch Bros gave us money for this ad"


[13-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Legal reform would grind to a halt


[13-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[13-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would list a shitton of stuff, including top three


[13-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
By encouraging anonymous donation and protecting them we are saying "this rich person saving face and being a secret supporter is more important than the voting public being educated"


[13-Jul-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
A very likely result is that there would be people going after wealthy donors


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok, so what is the issue?


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, I don't think you really *get* it.


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe I don't


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
forget the voting public


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
forget them, 100%


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Statistically


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
their interests


[13-Jul-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
do not matter for what legislation is passed.


[13-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is **statistically insignificant** how much the bottom 90% of people income support any given legislation, to that legislation passing.


[13-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is however a correlation between what the wealthy want passed and what does pass.


[13-Jul-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe not coincidentally, 90% of politicians are wealthy, non-working class people.


[13-Jul-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, what you need to understand here is, the voting public ultimately does not matter except for the presidency and the party balance at the federal level.


[13-Jul-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They **do not matter** on issues right now.


[13-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So while you might say "but my educated voters!", realistically those guys only matter for state law.


[13-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this shit with who donates money on issue ads isn't why.


[13-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you impair the ability of the wealthy to influence individual issues, then you impair the actual current process to get laws considered at all.


[13-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially at the state level, which is where legal ideas generally start.


[13-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it becomes harder to jump from state to national.


[13-Jul-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just throw a wrench into the whole process, without providing an alternative...


[13-Jul-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And by doing so, you hand things over to partisan politics entirely.


[13-Jul-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm I think I understand now


[13-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, I'm all for reform that moves power away from the wealthy


[13-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the trouble is this reform would move power away from wealthy donors to wealthy party members


[13-Jul-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
While making everything ridiculously difficult to reform outside that.


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wealthy donors already associated with party though


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but wealthy donors are capable of breaking with party.


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voters are realistically not.


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't donate billions of dollars to support abortion rights if you vote Republican


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the Koch Brothers stop the gravy train, Republicans panic


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And having to show your name won't stop them


[13-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It won't stop the Kochs, no


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it will stop many middling political donors


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What kind of rich people would this stop


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ones less entrenched


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like CEOs of random companies?


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say some bank CEO has never donated before to anything


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
one day he sees an issue he cares about, sends $100k to them


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
pokket change to him


[13-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but now his name is plastered all over it


[13-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
the bank gets shit from whichever side doesn't like it


[13-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's now in his interests, seeing that, to refuse to take a stance.


[13-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really do think it's the price you must pay


[13-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which means now that that money simply won't be spent


[13-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the issue will never come to a vote on the House floor.


[13-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking things like...lead abatement, or school vouchers, Its.


[13-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things the two parties care about, but not enuff, and without very entrenched organizations behind them on.


[13-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As an aside what is actually wrong with bussing


[13-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only conceivable argument I see is that it lessens the desire to improve bad schools


[13-Jul-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest seems like racism.


[13-Jul-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bussing in and of itself is amazing because by physically moving around children it moves around the wealth of their parents leading to diffusion that gets rid of the diminishing returns efficiency loss in rich areas.


[13-Jul-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is essentially a way to work within the local property tax system, and at the same time get into extra tangential problems that even equal allotment couldn't touch.


[13-Jul-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that the South isn't just racist


[13-Jul-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the South believes racism to be ethically necessary


[13-Jul-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
as in, they would do anything to accomplish racism


[13-Jul-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
even go against all other values


[13-Jul-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
including the values of the founders


[13-Jul-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means opposing the federal gov't when it tells them all men are created equal


[13-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Combine that with a general desire for self-determination, and you end up with the South taking radical measures to counteract equality initiatives


[13-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means that when the federal gov't comes in and tells them to bus


[13-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
they respond by sneaking in more discrimination, shutting down school systems, etc.


[13-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
which then creates more inequality than bussing could remove.


[13-Jul-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, the thing to remember, Its, is that the South will cry STATES RIGHTS all day long, but also want to use the federal gov't as a cudgel against liberal states that try to giv blakks rights, and at the same time use state gov't as a cudgel against cities that do the same


[13-Jul-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South does not giv a single shit about what the system of governance actually is, or who's doing what, so long as *they at the state level* are allowed to *reinstate some sliver of slavely*


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and this is part of the trouble with a law like Cali's, @Itsthinking


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So once upon a time, the South had a serious problem


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
good li'l southern boys were becoming senile and dying


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but only during the winter


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and only outside the few cities


[13-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and especially in prisons


[13-Jul-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
so a scientist came down to figure it out and pretty easily concluded that Pellagra was in fact just a dietary problem from eating basically nothing but processed corn


[13-Jul-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
came down...from the North


[13-Jul-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and he was a jew


[13-Jul-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
So when he did experiments that showed without a doubt it was dietary


[13-Jul-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixtamalization wasn't invented by either though


[13-Jul-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
the South said NOPE IT IS A BACTERIA OR SUMTHIN FUKK OFF


[13-Jul-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And continually resisted any further research or action.


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
if someone puts out an issue ad


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
in Alabama


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they aren't from Alabama


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
the South will just put its fingers in its ears and vote against whatever the ad says


[13-Jul-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the best shot the South ever had at being independent was a closeted gay Jewish man born in the West Indies


[13-Jul-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Regional schisms are amplified if everyone's names are plastered on shit


[13-Jul-19 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Had the South actually won he would be considered a founding fathers and Lee would be like how we treat random Revolutionary War generals


[13-Jul-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Cali's law will inspire the same all across the South, most likely


[13-Jul-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it'll be shit all over to even try to consider putting together something to raise awareness


[13-Jul-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause keep in mind, this applies to any potential pending legislation


[13-Jul-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20692524/facebook-five-billion-ftc-fine-embarrassing-joke

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Facebook’s $5 billion FTC fine is an embarrassing joke
Facebook gets away with it again
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[13-Jul-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's extremely broad.


[13-Jul-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Z U C C


[13-Jul-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/border-patrol-official-article-reporting-secret-facebook-group

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Border Patrol Official Circulates Article That Deems Our Reporting...
An official who directs a Border Patrol intelligence gathering center sent the article to all top intelligence officials and field offices. The article directly attacks a ProPublica reporter who revealed that agents were posting anti-migrant and misogynistic memes in group fo...
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[13-Jul-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers trying to say they're doxed


[14-Jul-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/XZHKs1oFmSQ

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Dennis Prager READS your comments and does other exciting activities
Checkmate, liberals!
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[14-Jul-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/mike-pence-assures-detained-children-that-they-will-hav-1836318708

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[14-Jul-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/zs7PK6N

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[14-Jul-19 12:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1150202427452383233

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https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1150202427452383233
@jjmacnab The guy who attacked the ICE detention centre was a 69-year-old anarchist named Will Van Spronsen. This is him.
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[14-Jul-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
>69

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[14-Jul-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice


[14-Jul-19 02:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/TheRealHolli/status/1149046964715057152

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This was the reason for Trump/Epstein falling out.

Filed 4/26/16

#TrumpEpsteinRapists
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[14-Jul-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7894d6dc1d1c4a3b9747558553ddcdbf in news we clearly already knew but have confirmation for anyway...

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Leaked UK memo says Trump axed Iran deal to spite Obama
LONDON (AP) — A U.K. newspaper published more leaked memos from Britain's ambassador in Washington on Sunday, despite a police warning that doing so might be a crime. In one 2018 cable...
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[14-Jul-19 03:47 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tells-progressive-congresswomen-to-go-back-to-their-countries-aoc-ilhan-omar-2019-7

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Trump tells progressive freshman congresswomen to 'go back' to the...
Trump tweeted Sunday morning telling freshman congresswomen to 'go back' to their 'corrupt' countries, siding with Pelosi against Ocasio-Cortez.
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[14-Jul-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but sir, they're already in their broken and crime infested country


[14-Jul-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/irishman-jailed-in-us-without-warning-after-years-seeking-residency-1.3956204

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Father of three from Co Cork was arrested by US immigration in Philadelphia
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[14-Jul-19 04:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/el-salvador-rape-victim-prison-retrial-murder-evelyn-beatriz-hernandez-a9000431.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR11fzs7boD7dydZMyXYHnFwRHXayPJGxTUFLrFRbPY3ljlkLPg-hVBPisE#Echobox=1562853627

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Teenage rape victim handed 30-year prison sentence for 'murdering ...
Campaigners estimate around 20 women are in prison for abortion crimes in country
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[14-Jul-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2d6396678915460dbb5799917344a437

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House Democrats who tangled with leader not backing down
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Days after tensions with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi boiled over publicly, several House Democrats sent a message to Washington: We're not backing down. Three members of...
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[14-Jul-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Leopards ate my face https://i.redd.it/rumx7cc185a31.jpg

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[14-Jul-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the leopards didn;t mean to eat her face, they clearly just misaimed their jaws at the wrong target


[14-Jul-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let's give them a second chance to eat the right faces


[14-Jul-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the faces of those dirty giraffe huggers


[14-Jul-19 06:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/europe/saudi-arabia-princess-hassa-trial-intl/index.html

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Saudi Crown Prince's sister on trial for allegedly ordering attack...
The sister of Saudi Arabia's powerful Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud is on trial in Paris, facing allegations she ordered a bodyguard to beat and humiliate a local craftsman who was renovating her luxury apartment three years ago.
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[14-Jul-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheRealHolli/status/1149046964715057152

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This was the reason for Trump/Epstein falling out.

Filed 4/26/16

#TrumpEpsteinRapists
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[14-Jul-19 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really makes you scratch your chin in thought, huh


[14-Jul-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
the complaint states she was 13 at the time this occurred


[14-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chevron-oil-spill-dumps-nearly-800000-gallons-of-crude-water-in-california-canyon

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Chevron oil spill dumps nearly 800,000 gallons of crude, water in ...
Chevron crews have begun to clean up a massive oil spill in California after nearly 800,000 gallons of oil and water were dumped into a canyon in nearby Bakersfield since the flow first began in May.
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[14-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] people don't care


[14-Jul-19 08:41 PM] ononim#8141
oh fuck


[14-Jul-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjV2autXVTc

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Mow Your Lawn or Lose Your House!
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[14-Jul-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Indeed, you can rape little girls all you want as long as you've got money. That's the American Dream.


[14-Jul-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you're a jew.


[14-Jul-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like Weinstein or Epstein.


[14-Jul-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you can only pay things off once before they take you down.


[14-Jul-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good campaign ad


[14-Jul-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That picture of Trump at the Western Wall+Trump named settlement being revealed


[14-Jul-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Superimpose him calling Epstein a "Jew bastard" on top


[14-Jul-19 10:31 PM] Torr#5078
https://youtu.be/NJZJNxjy8Kg

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A Brand New Political Compass
Devised by me. --- My Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/academic-agent Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/AcademicAgent My Patreon: https://www.patreon...
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[15-Jul-19 02:24 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.albiladdailyeng.com/india-declaring-millions-citizens-foreigners/

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India is declaring millions of its citizens to be foreigners - Al ...
The unlucky victims must then prove the opposite in special courts It is hotter than Prague. It does not have the Czech capital’s cobbled squares or narrow streets but instead, tin-roofed houses and paddies hemmed with palms and mango trees. Yet Franz Kafka would have felt ...
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[15-Jul-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-consumer-debt-is-now-breaching-levels-last-reached-during-the-2008-financial-crisis-2019-06-19

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U.S. consumer debt is now above levels hit during the 2008 financi...
Consumer debt has hit $14 trillion, a level some might find worrisome.
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[15-Jul-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9655837/1/Harry-Potter-Becomes-A-Communist


[15-Jul-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[15-Jul-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wizards are clearly bourgeois so no


[15-Jul-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
my mom thinks that trump raping a 13 year old is fake news


[15-Jul-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
also that acosta's plan to cut funding to combat child sex trafficking is fake news too


[15-Jul-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
basically, she seems to call everything regarding trump that paints him in even a neutral light, let alone a negative light, fake news


[15-Jul-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.html
Acosta to Resign as Labor Secretary Over Jeffrey Epstein Plea Deal
President Trump said the decision to resign was made by his labor secretary, R. Alexander Acosta.
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[15-Jul-19 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
also, acosta is resigning


[15-Jul-19 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
so that plan to slash funding for combatting child sex trafficking likely won't happen


[15-Jul-19 12:55 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow print out the criminal complaint and read it off to her


[15-Jul-19 12:55 PM] byte[]#2610
read out that part in the twitter post with the useless red circle


[15-Jul-19 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
even if I do that, she'd just say that it doesn't matter because the victim settled


[15-Jul-19 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
also likely say that the victim waited too long etc


[15-Jul-19 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
basically, settling = not guilty in my mom's mind


[15-Jul-19 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
because if he actually commited the crime, the victim would see through the case to the end


[15-Jul-19 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
the victim apparently wasn't going to settle until she started getting shit on by the rabid trumpanzees


[15-Jul-19 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
with a bunch of death threats and shit


[15-Jul-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6bef9ed6c48b4c2ea203cbbea3ccacad

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Trump moves to end asylum protections for Central Americans
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration on Monday moved to end asylum protections for most Central American migrants in a major escalation of the president's battle to tamp down the number of...
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[15-Jul-19 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-theresa-may-twitter-racist-aoc-ilhan-omar-cortez-a9005121.html

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Theresa May condemns Donald Trump over racist tweet in unprecedent...
Prime minister launches strongest attack yet on US president as she prepares to leave office
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[15-Jul-19 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
when even the UK Conservative Party says "alright lads that’s pretty racist" you know you’ve said something racist


[15-Jul-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The question for me is


[15-Jul-19 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do the Republicans think will happen, best case scenario, in 2024?


[15-Jul-19 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think they believe people will just forget all this?


[15-Jul-19 04:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[15-Jul-19 04:03 PM] byte[]#2610
People are extremely dumb


[15-Jul-19 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
What I find most likely is that
- the "average joe" will suffer brainwashing from his conservative friends/relatives about how "oh it wasn't actually that bad" or "the democrats were trying to use the media to advance their policy positions"
- some fox news host will say something absolutely batshit like "actually, the democrats were responsible for the border concentration camps and the ice raids" and trump's voter base will eat it up and slander the democrats


[15-Jul-19 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society 🤡


[15-Jul-19 04:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk people threw GW Bush under the bus pretty quick


[15-Jul-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a dumpster fire


[15-Jul-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
We don't live in the political climate of Bush anymore


[15-Jul-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bush also wasnt a sociopath with narcisistic personality disorder


[15-Jul-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
He was a total moron


[15-Jul-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that i agree with


[15-Jul-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why dick cheyney got away with way mroe than he should have


[15-Jul-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is a total moron _and_ a racist narcissistic fuck


[15-Jul-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.timesofisrael.com/senior-hamas-official-calls-on-members-of-palestinian-diaspora-to-kill-jews/

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Senior Hamas official calls on members of Palestinian diaspora to ...
Fathi Hammad, known for his fiery rhetoric, also appears to urge Palestinians in the West Bank to stab Israelis; another Hamas official tries to distance terror group from remarks
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[15-Jul-19 06:23 PM] ononim#8141
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[15-Jul-19 06:53 PM] Torr#5078
https://news.columbia.edu/news/trump-twitter-first-amendment


[15-Jul-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Green trying to push through another impeachment thing in the House


[15-Jul-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/deportation-order-girl-11-blamed-worsening-immigration-courts-n995261

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Deportation order for 11-year-old underscores immigration court woes
“This case fell through the cracks somewhere after the government shutdown,” the girl's lawyer said.
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[15-Jul-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cbs-news-interview-with-ice-whistleblower-interrupted-by-federal-agents/

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CBS News interview with ICE whistleblower interrupted by federal a...
In his first interview, a former Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesperson opened up to CBS News about why he resigned. But in the middle of his interview, agents with the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General's Office showed up. Jamie Yuccas reports.
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[15-Jul-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/afran90/status/1150881538940256256?s=21

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Low Level Milkshake Violence Studies PhD (@afran90)
https://twitter.com/afran90/status/1150881538940256256?s=21
You know there might not be any aliens but the People's Liberation Army would probably pay you pretty handsomely for photos of one of those stealth helicopters.
Twitter


[16-Jul-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jul-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/19Phranchize/status/1150384171061317634

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Cult of Personality (@19Phranchize)
https://twitter.com/19Phranchize/status/1150384171061317634
As a current member of the US Army we sleep like this because we HAVE to. There are times when we need to just hop up and go. Do not try to utilize us to push your agenda that it’s ok for children to be locked in cages. https://t.co/hrgAaNVQkD
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[16-Jul-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
lol, original tweet was deleted


[16-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
wait no, twitter's retarded


[16-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/marksimoneny/status/1150018576994230272

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This is how our military sleeps. You won’t see any Democrats protesting over this:
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[16-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
what the god damned shit happened to twitter


[16-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Size 32 font everywhere


[16-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/19Phranchize/status/1150523274515890179

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https://twitter.com/19Phranchize/status/1150523274515890179
I’ve encountered some of the worst people on the planet off this single tweet. 

Not only do they think it’s ok to cage children like animals I’m SURE they don’t like that a black man in the army called out this stupid rhetoric
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[16-Jul-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ArtAcevedo/status/1116673699476901888

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https://twitter.com/ArtAcevedo/status/1116673699476901888
Yep. The Nazi’s enforced their laws as well. You don’t separate children from their families! Ever! You’d have to kill me to take my child from me simply because I was trying to get them to a better place for a better tomorrow.  I am glad to be on the right side of h...
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[16-Jul-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Jul-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh ffs


[16-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Say it with me fellas


[16-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
.
Social
Media
Was
A
Mistake


[16-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is at least half centaur


[16-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait that's what we're saying


[16-Jul-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SMWAM


[16-Jul-19 01:56 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah I'm a SMWAM
Seat
Mthe
Wrich
Akill
Meveryone


[16-Jul-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just realized, Trump is rallying his base by calling people anti Semites?


[16-Jul-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he even know what they're like


[16-Jul-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
does his base care


[16-Jul-19 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48987723

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Italy seizes missile in raids on far right
Some of the groups investigated in Italy are said to be linked to pro-Russian militants in Ukraine.
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[16-Jul-19 03:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Air missile in that hands of nut cases in Italy? I flew into, out of and over Italy less than a fortnight ago...


[16-Jul-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/melania-trump-donald-trump-tweets/index.html

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Melania Trump silent as her husband attacks congresswomen
Melania Trump is only the second first lady of the United States not born in America; the first, Louisa Adams was born in England. Yet she's remained silent as her husband, President Donald Trump, tweets racist and xenophobic attacks at four Democratic freshman lawmakers who ...
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[16-Jul-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah what a surprise this is


[16-Jul-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, the woman who never speaks, doesn;t speak once again


[16-Jul-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
she has spoken out though, it says so in the article


[16-Jul-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
parent/child separation specifically


[16-Jul-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
everything else she's been silent on


[16-Jul-19 06:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
When is Trump finally going to attack Melania 🤔🤔🤔


[16-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/trump-tweets-two-americas-blake/index.html

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There's a sobering truth to Trump's racist tweets that we don't li...
President Trump's critics may not like to admit it, but there's an element of truth in his racist tweets: The four Democratic congresswomen he criticized live in a very different America than he does.
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[16-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr there's two different americas in the same country


[16-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
the south will rise again


[16-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"It's okay to be racist if you're right"


[16-Jul-19 06:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Where is that tweet I came across earlier


[16-Jul-19 06:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/PatBlanchfield/status/1150737885106249728

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Trump could literally self-identity as a racist in next year's State of the Union and the NYT headline the day after would proclaim "Trump Pumps Bellows of Racial Kindling"
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[16-Jul-19 06:31 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/jemakatz/status/1150763251761909760

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doc 🇨🇦🍸🐱I'm with you🌊 (@jemakatz)
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[16-Jul-19 06:36 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/IamFreshorDie/status/1150766986789449728

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[16-Jul-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/DUFL9RU

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I thought it was going to say America for a moment after what they’re trying to do in Alabama
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[16-Jul-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1097206b30cc45fabe983216f50a68bf

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Trump tweets send stinging message to countless Americans
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — When President Donald Trump tweeted that four congresswomen should "go back" where they came from, Erika Almiron was reminded of the first time she heard the same comments. She...
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[16-Jul-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bdb2912d325f41fba004bbdeffff8bce

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Facebook's new currency plan is under scrutiny in Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — Facebook's ambitious plan to create a financial eco-system based on a digital currency faces questions from lawmakers, as it's shadowed by negative comments from President Donald...
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[16-Jul-19 01:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/geraldo-rivera-trump-tweets-aoc-ilhan-omar

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Geraldo Rivera on Trump's tweets: 'I just hope it isn't a glimpse ...
Fox News corespondent-at-large Geraldo Rivera criticized President Trump Monday for his controversial tweets this Sunday saying he was "saddened" by the remarks and wished he would apologize.
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[16-Jul-19 01:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Watch generic blonde FOX presenter's discomfort


[16-Jul-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
trump is a nascent dictator


[16-Jul-19 02:05 PM] Crow#5457
libertarians recognize that and are having massive amounts of cognitive dissonance atm


[16-Jul-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
well, "libertarians", the US libertarian party is a near-far right joke


[16-Jul-19 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9924c846abf84cfeabb76e6045190b42

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Trump digs in on racist tweets: 'Many people agree with me'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defiant in the face of widespread criticism, President Donald Trump renewed his belligerent call on Monday for four Democratic congresswomen of color to get out of the U.S....
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[16-Jul-19 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The lovely folks in the KKK agree with me, it's a wonderful time to see the unity of loyal americans!"


[16-Jul-19 02:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the Boomer outrage at Omar saying fuck that is the secret second worst part of this tbh


[16-Jul-19 02:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did any generation before or since care this much about "bad words"


[16-Jul-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most generations past boomers really stopped giving a fuck about shitty bad words


[16-Jul-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think msot of the problems with the boomer generation stem from the silent generation, but that's a whole quandry in and of itself


[16-Jul-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the silent generation really passed on their baggage through their children


[16-Jul-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to take a guess on why boomers get so offended about curse words, it;s likely because at the time of their childhood, curse words were far more potent, most of the people cursing at the time were likely bitter venom filled older people come back from war, and bitter venom filled racists cursing out the N-words. meanwhile religions probably espouted virtues of these words only being used in hate filled anger as an afront to god


[16-Jul-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not to say there weren't casual cursers back then but they were likely far rarer within america at least


[16-Jul-19 02:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It seems back then morality was kept in check.


[16-Jul-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[16-Jul-19 02:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sex is one instance.


[16-Jul-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldn't be surprised to learnt hat there was an attempt to install "moral police" in america at one point


[16-Jul-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in the southern regions


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No need for specialized police,  it just was there. It is either comes from religion "after marriage only" or from strict governments keeping total hush-hush, giving it cute names like "lovemaking" and "love".


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i meant for other things but yeah


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
morality was not kept in check


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like women acting out of line, and them black folk acting out of line


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
boomers swore as much as everyone else


[16-Jul-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
it was just a facade


[16-Jul-19 03:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A very good facade.


[16-Jul-19 03:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Only in a company one could learn these words.


[16-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Totalky blocked out in media.


[16-Jul-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was a point where all cartoons were scooby doo clones because  it was jsut the safest most moral formula they could enforce


[16-Jul-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well and the cheapest


[16-Jul-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was an attempt at soemthing far cheaper but that never caught on


[16-Jul-19 03:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It also depends if all media passed through checks with authorities


[16-Jul-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it went through several christian media watchgroup authorities back in the 70's


[16-Jul-19 03:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless movie director knows good distraction techniques.
For example...
Something happens in the movie that could cause disapproval from the reviewers.
The director sneaks in nuclear explosions (it was at time of cold war) and then the reviewers forget small things.


[16-Jul-19 03:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But it is the same thing.


[16-Jul-19 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you get groups like 1 million moms


[16-Jul-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the american family association


[16-Jul-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which sounds more liek an adoption agency in name, but is a protestant media watchgroup


[16-Jul-19 03:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who is responsible for SJWing the media?


[16-Jul-19 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I bet Soros did this


[16-Jul-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probabloy soros, and a few counter orginizations


[16-Jul-19 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also censorship laws loosening slightly probably helped


[16-Jul-19 04:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The reason I am no longer watching movies. Are they also affecting gaming in general or big titles only?


[16-Jul-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[16-Jul-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant really answer that without some context..


[16-Jul-19 04:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Heard complaints of Overwatch about character designs


[16-Jul-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that really narrows things down


[16-Jul-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first complaint i heard about overwatch was that tracer shows her ass in her victory pose and tumblr did not like that


[16-Jul-19 04:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or, for instance, some game got gender removed as option and changed to build.


[16-Jul-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how would you customize gender? all the characters are prebuilt


[16-Jul-19 05:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In the game, you can "select a character gender" (male or female). They changed these to "select character build".

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[16-Jul-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[16-Jul-19 05:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Also tumblr, I suppose?


[16-Jul-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo what game this is so i do not klnow the devlopmental circumstances


[16-Jul-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real damage comes when religious watchgroups have agreements with sjw's and thne you get attacks on all sides about a witch's breasts beign too big


[16-Jul-19 05:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Meet demands. Increase size by few pixels every update. Human brain does not register slow changes within 10 minutes, not mentioning this.


[16-Jul-19 05:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's win-win!


[16-Jul-19 05:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(There was a video demonstrating that human brain cannot see slow changes, especially without progress reference)


[16-Jul-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/76ej6c4lnna31.jpg

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[16-Jul-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate how true this shirt is...:radiant_hope_unamused:


[16-Jul-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/277fe31ea2234658a991243a9c6f2466

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Polls show sour views of race relations in Trump's America
Even before President Donald Trump's racist tweets toward four Democratic congresswomen of color, Americans considered race relations in the United States to be generally bad — and said that Trump...
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[16-Jul-19 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYxUnkG8Sic

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Netflix Is A Joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYxUnkG8Sic
Aziz Ansari Clears Up the Pizza Swastika Story | Netflix Is A Joke
Aziz Ansari polls the crowd on a very important news story. SUBSCRIBE: https://bit.ly/2Kncxw6 About Netflix Is A Joke: The official hub of Netflix stand-up, ...
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[16-Jul-19 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AthertonKD/status/1151126210749095936

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Today is the 74th anniversary of the first atomic bomb detonation, at the Trinity Site in New Mexico. 

The sparse desert around the test was inhabited, and the first victims of the nuclear age are still fighting for recognition. Me for @PopSci in 2017: https://t.co/cefYZd...
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[16-Jul-19 07:17 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://youtu.be/tO_D1SKRYmE

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This week's news without the bullshit
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[16-Jul-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/453333-alabama-gop-senate-candidate-says-homosexual-activities-have-ruined-tv

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Alabama GOP senate candidate says 'homosexual activities' have rui...
Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill (R), a 2020 Senate candidate, says that Americans are too “preoccupied with homosexual activities” and “the wife swap shows,” ruining everything from TV to the country’s moral direc
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[16-Jul-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
He'll get plenty of votes as usual


[16-Jul-19 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1151172627580497929

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What’s your ethnicity?” Kellyanne Conway asks a reporter when the reporter asks her about the intent of the president’s tweets.

“A lot of us are sick and tired of this country – of America coming last, to people who swore an oath of office.” https://t.co/Ti...
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[16-Jul-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing's perfect, you can like something and criticize it too


[16-Jul-19 09:44 PM] ononim#8141
apparently european human rights court finally decided what Rus gov broke Convention about human rights and liberties all the way back in 2006 when they refused to register pro-LGBT organisation


[16-Jul-19 09:45 PM] ononim#8141
LGBT organisation was called "extermist", saying what this association** "undermines sovereignty and territorial integrity of RF by virtue of its negative population growth"**


[16-Jul-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 condoms banned in Russia


[16-Jul-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russian breeding farms are the next big thing


[16-Jul-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a67df9b560fc416f8326827b36b0de81

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Trump calls on GOP to oppose House condemnation of tweets
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump called on fellow Republicans Tuesday to stick with him, "not show weakness" and oppose a House resolution condemning his tweets that urged four Democratic...
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[16-Jul-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Be my meat shields my fellow republicans!


[16-Jul-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
put your already dead reputations on the line for the sake of my narcissism and further dig your graves for me!


[16-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Party is so fucking dead when Trump is out


[16-Jul-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Best case scenario what, they get to 2024 and have completely burned so many people and no one had the same schtick as Trump


[16-Jul-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP members trying to do his schtick learned pretty early on it only works for him


[16-Jul-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an all-or-nothing strategy.


[16-Jul-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just can't be half Trump.


[16-Jul-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to double down.


[16-Jul-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eric Greitens tried that


[16-Jul-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't go so well


[16-Jul-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He really really wanted to be the candidate in 2024


[16-Jul-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He _bought domain names for it in 2010_


[16-Jul-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the issue with other republicans trying to be donald Trump is that while they're all complete dick copters. None of them are spoiled brats in the same way Trump is. They don't like being told no, but most of them have a line. Trump doesn't have a line. The more you tell him no the mroe he will do it anyway and in a mroe extreme way


[16-Jul-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest of the republicans just don't have this tantrumesque resolve that Trump does


[16-Jul-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, once you've dug a hole, if you can't get out, you should keep digging.


[16-Jul-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
As long as you hav enuff money, you can keep it up forever and by the time they even start to take you down on one thing, you've gone further and screwed up everything.


[16-Jul-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is so far in the pit that at this point, the rescue rope we threw down to save his ass, is being used to pull us straight to hell with the force of a thousand screaming tantrums


[16-Jul-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Jul-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, "beautiful people"


[16-Jul-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that other races are ugly.


[16-Jul-19 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453375-green-to-file-articles-of-impeachment-against-trump-on-tuesday-night

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Green to file articles of impeachment against Trump on Tuesday night
Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) said that he plans to introduce his articles of impeachment against President Trump on Tuesday night, and will force a House floor vote on them in the coming days.
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[17-Jul-19 12:15 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/07/11/torture/

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Guided Tour of a Torture Chamber
Darya Apahonchich, just one big torture chamber, 2019. Photo courtesy of Ms. Apahonchich Darya Apahonchich Facebook July 8, 2019 Here’s a little about torture chamber. My Words Have Been Reco…
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[17-Jul-19 12:16 AM] ononim#8141
```My Words Have Been Recorded Correctly, an art exhibition in solidarity with imprisoned anarchists and antifascists, took place July 5–7, 2019, at Pushkinskaya 10 Art Center in Petersburg.

The show was sad and daring. During the three days it was up, it was visited by both regular cops and the “anti-extremism” police from Center “E” [known in Russia as eshniki or “eeniks”].

Our group {rodina} [“motherland“] did a performance, and there were concerts and discussions as well. I also had a piece in the show, entitled just one big torture chamber.

I really liked how Jenya [Kulakova] talked about it simply and calmly during her guided tours of the show.

“According to the latest surveys by Levada Center, ten percent of Russians have been tortured.”```


[17-Jul-19 12:16 AM] ononim#8141
```True, it’s a really simple figure, but when I hear it I want to hear more figures. What percentage of Russians have tortured someone? What percentage of Russians have ordered someone tortured? What percentage of Russians said nothing although they knew someone was being tortured? What percentage of Russians share a home with people who torture other people at work? Do torturers beat their wives, children, and elderly parents?

At first, I wanted to fashion Russia from a single piece of cardboard, but then I realized I had no sense of how I could unify the country except with borders, frontier guards, and barbed wire. I know tons of different Russias. I know academic Russia and literary Russia. I know the Russia of forests and mushrooms. I know the Russia of poor people and factories. I know the elegant Russia of rich people. All of these Russias have one thing in common: the violence of torture and the fear of torture. So, I assembled the map from scraps of cardboard.```


[17-Jul-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This guy is amazing, https://www.deviantart.com/silverstarapple/gallery/


[17-Jul-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
wew


[17-Jul-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
top 'tism


[17-Jul-19 01:42 AM] ononim#8141
... I think I recognise this Pony Creator avatar from screenshots of absolutely nuclear moronic takes


[17-Jul-19 02:02 AM] ononim#8141
>https://www.deviantart.com/silverstarapple/art/The-Next-Racebender-White-Gingecide-Is-Real-804913353


[17-Jul-19 02:02 AM] ononim#8141
Okay


[17-Jul-19 02:02 AM] ononim#8141
this has to be some long way troll


[17-Jul-19 02:02 AM] ononim#8141
I refuse to beliee this is non ironic


[17-Jul-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought so as well in the hell thread when he brought it up


[17-Jul-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I believe it 100%


[17-Jul-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Laughed at him for using a blatant joke image to support his argument


[17-Jul-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
People are mind bogglingly retarded


[17-Jul-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then I realized he made that image


[17-Jul-19 02:04 AM] ononim#8141
Number of brain cells what is needed to legit argue white genocide with this is too few to operate complex mammalian organism


[17-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, /pol/


[17-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't believe "they're all just memeing"


[17-Jul-19 02:04 AM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure average /pol/yp actually cares about disney


[17-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When you can go to breitbart or dozens of other sites / facebook and see the exact same things


[17-Jul-19 02:05 AM] ononim#8141
and not just using all that shit and marvel and whatever as a recruitment tool for angry manchildren


[17-Jul-19 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With real names and jobs and shit attached to the comments


[17-Jul-19 02:06 AM] ononim#8141
Americans used austrian and irish actors to portray russian characters, now my whole ethnicity is gone, reduced to atoms


[17-Jul-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't watch Death of Stalin, then =p


[17-Jul-19 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
I actually have this one to watch list


[17-Jul-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[17-Jul-19 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
looks pretty entertaining


[17-Jul-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spoilers: Stalin dies


[17-Jul-19 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Jesus dies in the bible


[17-Jul-19 02:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
but does he really tho? How do we know he was not just pretending and faked coming back to life?


[17-Jul-19 02:18 AM] ononim#8141
I heard they tried to make number of medals Zhukov has historicaly accurate but it looked to unrealistic


[17-Jul-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[17-Jul-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doubles as body armour


[17-Jul-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[17-Jul-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jul-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
wtf did tumblr do to their urls


[17-Jul-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
I guess they didn't want it to be easy to get the largest available resolution or something


[17-Jul-19 09:29 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Coordination is over half of the power of the US military. We arent as fractured as say, a dozen nations with different tactics and codes and boards for ethics mushing together EU style


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>NATO


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Theyd have to dissolve a lot of national shit too, which I garuntee a few nations will refuse


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you hav a clue?


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yeah and NATO often runs into conflict during training


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
wait a minite


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Im thinking of soemthi f else


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
NATO is the framework


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they could just build upon it


[17-Jul-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and bam


[17-Jul-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only trouble with the EU going full single military is money, and deciding when to assist the US in invading random shitholes.


[17-Jul-19 09:31 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Its not that simple. Training with another countries military is an anecdote I cant forget. Hondruas and Australia are super different from america, and even UK laterals that came to australia had a hard as sht time adjustig


[17-Jul-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a single-generational issue


[17-Jul-19 09:31 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Its only recently weve pushed new laterals through infantry school


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mix up the recruits and the next generation gets trained by people who know the cultural issues.


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
🤔 20-30 years is a large time period to adjust


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
20 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And I reckon just getting to tha tpoint would require at least a decade of beurocracy


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the EU isn't going away anytime soon


[17-Jul-19 09:32 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
The same could be said of all thigs


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about the future


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
In the span of conflict though 20-30 years is great


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Im talking about if europe wants to rape the US rough justice style


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Itd take decades of perperstion


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point was that nobody does


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
actual warfare is undesirable.


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Militaries are largely to squabble over some random shithole that didn't get the memo yet.


[17-Jul-19 09:33 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes but the US knows this, and thus any number based threat is oretty non existant


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU doesn't need the army to invade the US


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just needs the army to not need US assistance


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Oh thatd be awesome


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
at that point, it can tell the US to fukk off in any treaty negotiation.


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
They dont want americans there and americans honestly dont want to be there


[17-Jul-19 09:34 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Other than to have a foot hold for bullshit


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
But they wont kill the visa shit because thatd destroy tourism


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is already starting to tell us to fukk off


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they will


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're very serious about it


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
US tourism is an acceptable loss if it sends a message.


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
"You mean I need to actually plan this trip out? Nope. Ill go to fresno or something"


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It creates a huge PR victory


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes but do we really need them?


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
For what?


[17-Jul-19 09:35 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Exactly


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Just in general


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Like, if you cut us off, cool your loss


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US never "needed" Europe


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yeah it seems like a lose... netral. A lose neutral


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cutting us off in terms of visa waivers is a big deal, you must realize


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans won't accept it.


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
God I hope they just take it


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says that America isn't a world power.


[17-Jul-19 09:36 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Most americans in the south completely dismiss Europe


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And I reckon a lot up north do too


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wrongfully.


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by hurting our stature like that


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
we'll inevitably get into a spot where we do need Europe


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Dismissal is dismissal.


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize, power is shifting


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Eh I dont know about that


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
we've completely bombed our diplomatic infrastructure


[17-Jul-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The state dept. is basically a ghost town


[17-Jul-19 09:38 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I do think the US needs to copy china and support resource rich countries


[17-Jul-19 09:38 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Rather than... honduras


[17-Jul-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South can think whatever it wants, at the end of the day


[17-Jul-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the EU is already beginning to act without us


[17-Jul-19 09:38 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes but I dont see that changing much.


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
In terms of actual quality of life in America long term


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was never about that.


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't going to stop eating pancakes because the EU did something.


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you are going to vote differently.


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Exactly. A shift a power doesnt mean anything to me. As also I dont think the power is shifting that much


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you are going to see the US become less powerful


[17-Jul-19 09:39 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
If at all


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Theres a lot of internal conflict within the EU as is


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if the US takes the strict entry rules side


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the EU the easy entry rules side


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
well guess which side will win that?


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I assume everyone loses


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point, Canada could hav free movement with Mexico


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not the US


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would then be where you realize you're eating pancakes


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Canada has freemovement with the US


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Mexico is eating pizza


[17-Jul-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
For now, sorta, somewhat.


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Not somewhat


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
They dont need visas


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, very much somewhat.


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
How so?


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
free movement isn't not needing a visa


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
A canadian can just enter the US without a visa


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
free movement is not even going to a border station


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
A canadian citizen can just fly ib


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Americans have to use border stations


[17-Jul-19 09:41 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
But I see your point now


[17-Jul-19 09:42 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I felt you were implying US citizens and canadians arent subject to the same level of incovenienience traveling in and out of america


[17-Jul-19 09:42 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
When both get rail roaded.


[17-Jul-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going between Spain and France right now is just...nothing.


[17-Jul-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just drive.


[17-Jul-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
One day that'll spread.


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Thats nice, but also necessary for them


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
America's idea however is to hav border chekkpoints *even within the country*


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Within? Surely tou dont mean the continental US


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's being done all over in Southern Texas


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Where are hese check points


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
along the highways


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Where though? And how?


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
You mean toll booths?


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav Border Patrol inspect vehicles


[17-Jul-19 09:43 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Like along the US mexico border and near by it?


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
no


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
dozens of miles inland


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Makes sense


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
often on the highway leading into a city


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Border patrol is allowed a hundred-mile zone


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Havent had that issue in houston yet though


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
anywhere within 100 miles of the border is treated the same as the border itself


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
That seems fair


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a recent thing to add these chekkpoints


[17-Jul-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but eventually they'll be all over.


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Considering how rampant and serious the illegal issue is with or southern border


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's rampant because we intentionally made it harder to gain legitimate entry.


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Economically it hurts trade though


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire system is *designed* to generate illegal immigration.


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are quite happy to shoot free trade in the head.


[17-Jul-19 09:45 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes, because illegal immigrants are a hge pool of cheap labor and actually lower the cost of living in areas because of this


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it looked at them funny and was a bit brown.


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Illegal immigrant labor encourages a lakk of workers rights


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
which in turn lead to low pay


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
But most would argue a higher cime rate and a million people who cant speak english isnt worth it


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so even with low cost of living


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
you end up unable to afford it.


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I know it equals out, but im not poor


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
immigrants hav a lower crime rate than native-born


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't equal out


[17-Jul-19 09:46 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I find that hard to believe


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
the worse workers rights extend well past the initial area affected


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I meant wage and cost of living


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas the meager savings the business gets aren't really passed on to the customer


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those savings go to investors


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
In fact, as a business owner I would prefer if workers had less rights


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Unions destroyed manufacturing in the US


[17-Jul-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The end result is having such cheap labor from people who can't afford to report what's being done means that businesses make higher profits


[17-Jul-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and products are the same cost


[17-Jul-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and workers get paid less


[17-Jul-19 09:48 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yeah that sounds about right


[17-Jul-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the immigrants were legal, and thus didn't need to fear being reported, they could try to enforce their workers rights, which would boost rights overall and lead to higher wages.


[17-Jul-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, we are headed for an economic collapse


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
See, either you make them not illegal, or successfully isolate them and kick them out


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Were in a shitty limbo right now


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone but the rich is making the same or less every year


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Id prefer the latter. Because I dont want more workers rights


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially the young


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Business is already aliensted from the US as is


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the wealth gap is widening


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
businesses aren't alienated, they love it here


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I dont manufacture SHIT in the US


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Why the fuck would I


[17-Jul-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
manufacturing didn't go overseas because workers got rights


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Really, businesses love it here


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it went overseas because of resource discoveries and cost of living disparities


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
It went over seas because manufacturing in the US costs too muchZ


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Whatever the cause of this caust, thas why


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cost of living disparities


[17-Jul-19 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
a dollar a day is a hell of a lot in some places


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Figures


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
workers' comp etc. is peanuts compared to just the salary discrepancy


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robots will bring manufacturing bakk to the US


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the cost of not bringing bakk any jobs whatsoever.


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
And create a giant mass of angry poor people


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a mess no matter how you do it, that's the argument for UBI


[17-Jul-19 09:51 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
UBI wouldnt destroy business though


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but having illegal immigrants by making legal immigration shitty just adds gasoline onto the fire


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I just wish they learned english


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the end, the EU is gonna soften entry rules and expand


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Just please, learn english and you can come in


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Thats all we ask


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the US is gonna be left floundering


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not all we ask


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Doubt it.


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the current entry requirements are pretty crazy


[17-Jul-19 09:52 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Thats all most people ask.


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I obv meant the general populace


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't asks for a lot more


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that will be their downfall.


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
General populace doesn't matter.


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Yes but Ive established that when I swy we I mean populace not govt


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
No shit


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
If it did things would be different


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Man I just want to bail on this country so hard


[17-Jul-19 09:53 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
I dont want to live here anymore


[17-Jul-19 09:54 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
This here is why. Im so sick of america being the center of everythig


[17-Jul-19 09:54 AM] MeowDude[Abby]#5435
Its so annoying


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[17-Jul-19 02:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie UBI even being considered is a result of our own fault, not automation


[17-Jul-19 02:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bringing back strong workers rights would be preferable than a borderline fairyland program


[17-Jul-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather have the UBI, because at this point the fairyland program is more realistic than bringing back non automated jobs and strong workers rights


[17-Jul-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0be6efc0cf714565adba19e646cc0da3

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Confusion, fear reigns on Mexico border with new US policy
NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico (AP) — Asylum-seekers gathered in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Texas, grappled to understand what a new U.S. policy that all but eliminates refuge claims by Central...
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[17-Jul-19 03:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Might as well kill private property rights for factories and turn them over to collectives and unions comprised of people who work there. Or even the local munincipal governments (city or county) with the unions as a legislative check.


[17-Jul-19 03:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then split the profit between everyone or the community as a share of that economic activity.


[17-Jul-19 03:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds familiar. ..


[17-Jul-19 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Jul-19 04:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-discussing-women-1992-party-n1030686

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Tape shows Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein discussing women at 19...
The November 1992 tape in the NBC archives shows Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein more than a decade before Epstein pleaded guilty to felony prostitution charges in Florida.
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[17-Jul-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine if someone you thought was your friend called you a dirty jew bastard because you didn't get to rape a 13 year old first


[17-Jul-19 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[17-Jul-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest, i wouldn;t be surprised if Trump tried to use "dirty jew bastard" as a term of endearment on multiple occasions


[17-Jul-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hey! How are you doing, you dirty jew bastard!? Get over here!"


[17-Jul-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"You're my favorite nagger"


[17-Jul-19 05:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to check Epstein's fleight logs.


[17-Jul-19 05:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is proof that Trump sided with Russians along all the time since the fall of USSR. He assisted in production of a Russian movie.


[17-Jul-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has probably has russian business ties since he partnered with his father


[17-Jul-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that turned into russian government ties


[17-Jul-19 05:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder Trump has a SAG card and gets royalties from movies he cameoed in


[17-Jul-19 05:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He _is_ Hollywood elite


[17-Jul-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he;s anti union and also part of a union


[17-Jul-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile biden is defending to the death, the affordable care act


[17-Jul-19 06:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/assange-embassy-exclusive-documents/index.html

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Exclusive: Security reports reveal how Assange turned an embassy i...
New documents obtained exclusively by CNN reveal that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange received in-person deliveries, potentially of hacked materials related to the 2016 US election, during a series of suspicious meetings at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.
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[17-Jul-19 06:34 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Fuckin' _finally!_
https://aol.it/2YV2a7i

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Rep. Al Green files articles of impeachment against Trump
Under House rules, Green can force the chamber to act on his resolution within two legislative days.
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[17-Jul-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did it twice before


[17-Jul-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You've only got 80 people in support


[17-Jul-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/979b46c07f83411c8a99a19d2bb9ad8b

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City hopes 'Baby Shark' song will drive homeless away
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Officials in West Palm Beach are hoping a continuous loop of children's songs played throughout the night will keep homeless people from sleeping on the patio of a...
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[17-Jul-19 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh hey we're gonna see the court documents related to those illegal payments Cohen made at Trump's direction


[17-Jul-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/judge-rules-to-unseal-redacted-materials-in-michael-cohen-case/

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Judge rules to unseal redacted materials in Michael Cohen case
Federal prosecutors have completed their investigation into campaign finance violations by President Donald Trump’s now-imprisoned former attorney Michael Cohen — and a federal judge has…
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[17-Jul-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/prosecutors-accuse-ms-13-of-7-medieval-style-slayings-including-cutting-heart-out-of-rival

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Prosecutors accuse MS-13 of 7 'medieval-style' slayings, including...
Los Angeles MS-13 gang members were charged Tuesday with the “medieval-style” slayings of seven people, including a rival gang member who had his heart cut out of his chest.
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[17-Jul-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/453508-trumps-racist-abuses-demand-impeachment

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Trump's racist abuses demand impeachment
Trump’s efforts to undermine American values from within are dangerous and unprecedented in the modern era. Congress must demand his impeachment.
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[17-Jul-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, didn't know that about Johnson


[17-Jul-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[17-Jul-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, that'll solve the problem of people starving and with no healthcare or psychiatric care on the streets


[17-Jul-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
drive them crazy so they go to another city to be that city's problem.


[17-Jul-19 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1151565884533686273

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Sen. Rand Paul blocked the Senate vote on extending the 9/11 victims compensation fund citing the growing federal debt. https://t.co/7oFZ1qSRCG
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[17-Jul-19 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
iT's ThE ECOnomY, sTUpID!!!


[17-Jul-19 10:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmNhrs_IHvg

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WOMAN PUSHES PRIEST MARCELO ROSSI FROM THE STAGE 😱 | MULHER EMP...
#PadreMarceloRossi #Notícias #Igreja #Reportagem #News #Priest #CachoeiraPaulista #Viral Cachoeira Paulista SP - Brasil 14-06-2019 Priest pushed off stage by...
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[17-Jul-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil?


[17-Jul-19 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[17-Jul-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXz-MWChoU

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60 teenagers caught on camera looting Philadelphia Walgreens
Philadelphia police have released surveillance video showing a group of teenagers damaging a Walgreens pharmacy on July 4. It happened around 10 p.m. at the ...
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[17-Jul-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[17-Jul-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
but why


[17-Jul-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs are expensive.


[17-Jul-19 10:32 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon priest or crow vid?


[17-Jul-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Both I guess


[17-Jul-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
First) he's catholic priest :^), second) he's anti LGBT, spouting shit like "homosexuality is a disease" and third and most nuclear) he apparently said that "fat women go to hell", which is the reason for this push in particualr


[17-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pushing's not gonna accomplish much though


[17-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Other than get yourself arrested


[17-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Might as well go for old el stabbo


[17-Jul-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow that's philly


[17-Jul-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-49017062/chennai-the-city-where-drought-is-visible-from-space

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City where drought is visible from space
Chennai is India's sixth largest city, but its residents are relying on trucks and trains to bring them water.
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[18-Jul-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49021081

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UK ran around 'like idiots' in Brexit negotiations
The EU Commission's first vice-president claimed ministers turned up to Brussels without a plan in 2017.
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[18-Jul-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453596-green-forces-impeachment-vote-against-trump

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House votes to kill impeachment effort against Trump
The House on Wednesday voted 332-95 to kill the first articles of impeachment brought forward under the new Democratic majority, showing off a deep divide among Democrats on whether to go forward with an effort to unseat President T
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[18-Jul-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's worth noting 40% of the majority voted against tabling


[18-Jul-19 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
Wait they're actually impeaching Trump?


[18-Jul-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No it got tabled


[18-Jul-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But more support than ever, 90 out of the majority of 235 voted against tabling


[18-Jul-19 12:37 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[18-Jul-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-massachusetts-crime-harvard/man-sentenced-for-threatening-to-bomb-harvard-ceremony-for-black-students-idUSKCN1UC14S

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Man sentenced for threatening to bomb Harvard ceremony for black...
An Arizona man was sentenced to 15 months in prison on Wednesday after admitting...
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[18-Jul-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/dhm/status/1151503507889033221?s=19

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Dan McQuade (@dhm)
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On June 14, Foxhoven sent an email to all 4,300 employees of Iowa DHS ‘telling employees to mark Tupac Shakur’s birthday over the weekend.’ The following Monday, Gov. Kim Reynolds forced him to resign.” https://t.co/R27y2Yprlu
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[18-Jul-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[18-Jul-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
... why?


[18-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mass email bad?


[18-Jul-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue


[18-Jul-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453569-house-votes-to-hold-trump-cabinet-members-barr-ross-in-contempt

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House votes to hold Trump Cabinet members Barr, Ross in contempt
Democrats hold Trump officials in contempt for defying subpoenas on efforts to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.
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[18-Jul-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://news.avclub.com/iowa-official-who-liked-to-host-tupac-fridays-mightve-1836465420

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Iowa official who liked to host "Tupac Fridays" might've been oust...
It might make you roll your eyes to hear that a 66-year social services director in Iowa liked to slip quotes from the late Tupac Shakur in emails to his staff, an act that gives off a real “how do you do, fellow kids” vibe. The story of Jerry Foxhoven, however, is more c...
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[18-Jul-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently that old white dude _really_ liked Tupac


[18-Jul-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But still not a good reason to fire him


[18-Jul-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Governor likes Biggie I bet


[18-Jul-19 02:05 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1151313851348115456?s=20

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The Hill (@thehill)
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Photo featuring Kim Jong Un now hanging in White House https://t.co/ziURDbGt2v
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[18-Jul-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[18-Jul-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's satire actually


[18-Jul-19 05:16 AM] Litrojia#0612
Nah of course it's real


[18-Jul-19 06:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that poor poor coyote


[18-Jul-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/NHKWORLD_News/status/1151695289788461056?s=19

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https://twitter.com/NHKWORLD_News/status/1151695289788461056?s=19
[BREAKING NEWS] Several people have died in a fire at an animation studio in Kyoto, west Japan. Police are... https://t.co/bZpiKlQVkd
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[18-Jul-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's arson, they have the guy in custody


[18-Jul-19 07:01 AM] Mikey#7286
what the fuck


[18-Jul-19 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really hope this isn't a fucking "they did something bad to my waifu" thing


[18-Jul-19 07:04 AM] Mikey#7286
i have a feeling it is


[18-Jul-19 07:04 AM] Mikey#7286
or at least


[18-Jul-19 07:05 AM] Mikey#7286
something to do with a disgruntled fan


[18-Jul-19 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
23 dead atm =/


[18-Jul-19 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Place was probably full of loose paper and flammable chemicals


[18-Jul-19 10:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:MonkaSadRain:


[18-Jul-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/eb7f2bf6a7bd41e282a95dcf3904a877

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Trump slams congresswomen; crowd roars, 'Send her back!'
GREENVILLE, N.C. (AP) — Going after four Democratic congresswomen one by one, a combative President Donald Trump turned his campaign rally Wednesday into an extended dissection of the liberal...


[18-Jul-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess this is the new "lock her up" then


[18-Jul-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49027178 26 currently

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Suspected arson at Japan anime studio kills 26
Dozens are in hospital, some in a critical condition, after the attack on a Kyoto Animation studio.
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[18-Jul-19 12:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I hope they do off-site backups.


[18-Jul-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope that's the end of the body count


[18-Jul-19 02:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The fucking bloody footprints


[18-Jul-19 02:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h3v31jh7tza31.jpg

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[18-Jul-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he does have a point


[18-Jul-19 02:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[18-Jul-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Witness says he whimpered “They ripped me off.” while on the ground


[18-Jul-19 03:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which in this context could mean he was an actual professional that feels he was robbed, or he has an "archive of our own" account and thinks they ripped off his fanfic


[18-Jul-19 03:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't work there


[18-Jul-19 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, I mean he could be an actual industry professional, not specifically for them


[18-Jul-19 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Showed a demo real or floated a script or something


[18-Jul-19 03:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are he's just a nutcase, though


[18-Jul-19 04:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even with the "send her back" thing the thing that gets me the most is that I think Trump thinks Ocasio-Cortez is too hard to say


[18-Jul-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bet he's gonna call for them to show their birth certificates next


[18-Jul-19 04:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Obama does not sound like an American name!"


[18-Jul-19 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/NoContextBoomer/status/1149377799620374529

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Cropped Boomer Images (@NoContextBoomer)
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[18-Jul-19 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ro6ahshf0za31.jpg

gamers rise up

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[18-Jul-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b10907eaf37945889d9ee4339df92aaa 33

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Man shouting 'You die' kills 33 at Japan anime studio
TOKYO (AP) — A man screaming "You die!" burst into an animation studio in Kyoto, doused it with a flammable liquid and set it on fire Thursday, killing 33 people in an attack that shocked anime...
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[18-Jul-19 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RoseEmojiTico/status/1151508034608336896

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Rose 🌹 Tico (@RoseEmojiTico)
https://twitter.com/RoseEmojiTico/status/1151508034608336896
It's like they think that by making their human rights abuses cute and "funny" we won't notice that they're human rights abuses
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[18-Jul-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah psychological warfare, the perfect means of riddign a park of homeless


[18-Jul-19 06:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That Pinkfong OC looking like a snack tho


[18-Jul-19 06:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
34 when 🦊 👅


[18-Jul-19 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://girlcock.club/web/statuses/102435913212971913

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phooky
https://girlcock.club/web/statuses/102435913212971913
phooky (@phooky@octodon.social)
This is your periodic reminder that GE created a cutesy ad campaign about their ability to round up an ethnic group in a sports stadium and then force them onto trains:
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[18-Jul-19 07:00 PM] ononim#8141

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[18-Jul-19 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/453730-court-filings-show-trump-cohen-contacts-amid-hush-money-payments

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Court filings show Trump, Cohen contacts amid hush-money payments
President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen was in contact with Trump multiple times as he arranged hush-money payments to women alleging affairs with the president ahead of the 2016 election, according to court documents unsealed o
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[18-Jul-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cohen is in prison now for something Trump had a direct hand in planning


[18-Jul-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hope Hicks also lied to Congress.


[18-Jul-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/trump-invokes-kkk-slogan-love-it-or-leave-it-at-north-carolina-rally?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

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Trump invokes KKK slogan 'love it or leave it' at North Carolina rally
At a rally in North Carolina, US President Donald Trump doubled down on his attacks against four Democratic congresswomen and appeared to invoke a slogan used by white nationalists telling them to 'love it or leave it'.
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[18-Jul-19 08:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Hear the crowd? Shits fucked.


[18-Jul-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jul-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Bruh


[18-Jul-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
"'Revolution,' said the now chainsaw-wielding boy."


[18-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People care more about a chant than the fact that Trump conspired with his attorney to break the law


[18-Jul-19 08:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
said the tree

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[18-Jul-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s not that people care mroe, it;s that people have known this for half a year now


[18-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Got new documents today showing it conclusively


[18-Jul-19 08:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/18/boris-johnson-claims-about-kippers-fishy-brussels-says

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Kipper rules Boris Johnson blamed on EU are actually British, says...
Europe’s ‘pointless’ regulations on food are in fact UK rules, commission tells MP
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[18-Jul-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same old conservative strategy


[18-Jul-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
make the rules stupidly strict, enforce them, then when people get mad, blame the other party for the rules.


[18-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way you gain support from people who want to get rid of the rules, as you proceed to only get rid of rules in highly biased ways, creating more crazy rules in particular areas to maintain an iron grip on power.


[18-Jul-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/meghan-mccain-feels-victimized-by-trumps-attacks-on-omar-youre-taking-away-my-agency-to-criticize-her/

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Meghan McCain feels victimized by Trump’s attacks on Omar: ‘Yo...
Meghan McCain found a way to make herself the victim of President Donald Trump’s racist screed against Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN). The president has been telling the Minnesota Democrat to return to her home country Somalia, which she fled as a refugee at 10, and accused her of ...
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[18-Jul-19 10:11 PM] ononim#8141

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[18-Jul-19 10:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
wat


[18-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, can't paint someone brown as anti-semitic as a cover for racism (which itself is rather racially prejudiced) if they're being explicitly called out for being brown.


[18-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
What a way for Republicans to flounder.


[18-Jul-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda weird no one gives a shit about the Cohen hush money thing when we have recordings telling Cohen to commit a crime and now documents saying that he talked to Trump about it


[18-Jul-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/453801-trump-those-chanting-send-her-back-are-people-that-love-our-country

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Trump: Those chanting 'send her back' are 'people that love our co...
President Trump on Thursday said guests at his Wednesday night rally in North Carolina "love our country" despite taunts shouted by the audience aimed at Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.).
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[18-Jul-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Aaand basically agreeing with it now.


[18-Jul-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They love me, I am this country,I am the greatest president ever, these four brown women don't belong in my strong white capitalist nation. It drives a wedge in the democrats that i will hammer further into place."


[18-Jul-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
worse than black


[18-Jul-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
they're brown


[18-Jul-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile he signed a repeal of central american asylum support


[18-Jul-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the immigration center fiasco just got fucking worse


[18-Jul-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2d4138abfd0b4e71a63c94d3203e435a

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Records detail frenetic effort to bury stories about Trump
NEW YORK (AP) — Court records released Thursday show that President Donald Trump took part in a flurry of phone calls in the weeks before the 2016 election as his close aides and allies scrambled...
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[18-Jul-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Trump says critics hate America, despite his own US putdowns
WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump once saw a country that had lost its greatness — its cities wracked with crime, its borders a pathetic sieve, its leadership corrupt, its standing in the world a...
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[18-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) No one is focusing on the hush money anymore despite it clearly being a high crime and misdemeanor


[18-Jul-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, because everytime thisstuff comes up, he does soemthing worse to cover for it, when meuller goes in to testify on the 29th Trump will undoubtedly do soemthing  monstrously terrible to gain media attention away from mueller


[18-Jul-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/10a56574703d43799a3f3a0cc8ddeb29

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American warship destroys Iranian drone in Strait of Hormuz
WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. warship on Thursday destroyed an Iranian drone in the Strait of Hormuz after it threatened the ship, President Donald Trump said. The incident marked a new escalation of...
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[18-Jul-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his supporters don't care about his past aslong as he fucks over the people they hate


[18-Jul-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those trying to fight him, have to fight some new bullshit he's concocted every single week, so thye have less time to focus on his old scandals


[19-Jul-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's building overwhelming amounts of broken problems for the otherside to deal with so they're too busy dealing with that to deal with him


[19-Jul-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and having taken hvac in a class full of supporters, i can say his supporters would be willing to sacrifice their own lives to spite the people they hate. So even telling them trump is going to eat their faces, does not work.


[19-Jul-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their usual response to being told "Children could die if we don;t fix the ehalthcare system" is typically "Meh, everyone has to die sometime"


[19-Jul-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has built himself a nice big  castle moat of fuck ups that counter act his other fucks  up in such a way he;s becoming harder to touch legally


[19-Jul-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
So, yes people aren;t talking about the new documents showing proof of his wrong doings, because hes done so miuch wrong doing no one can focus on his past wrogn doings


[19-Jul-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man this is such a typical cult of personality


[19-Jul-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of the worst kind, even


[19-Jul-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if he's proven to be a raging pedophile, the republicans won;t care, they already backed moore. They arent the party of morals anymore, they're the party of power and money


[19-Jul-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason they stopped bakcing moore was because he became unpopular with voters


[19-Jul-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will defend trump to the deaths of their careers, because at this point Trump is the only one keepign thme afloat with his corruption, and dictator tactics


[19-Jul-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They have at this point, put all their focal points into oen goddamned key stone, and that keystone is Trump


[19-Jul-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minute hes gone, is the minute the power vacuum in fighting begins


[19-Jul-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
the republican party is propped up by trump now, they let him take over their narrative and forced himself into the keystone position


[19-Jul-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
that forcing in and of itself is causing the republican party to crumble, but as long as he's there it'll limp along


[19-Jul-19 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a bit like a Putin situation, only that Trump is nowhere as smart or cunning as Putin is


[19-Jul-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
but as soon as he's gone, the republican party will just disintegrate


[19-Jul-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin has liekly made back up plans for if he dies too


[19-Jul-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah... change will come eventually the moment Trump dies


[19-Jul-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But there's no guarantee it could be anything too good


[19-Jul-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the recovery we had after 2008 is gone, and the rpoblems are multiplied ten fold


[19-Jul-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will take decades or evne centiuries to fix this entire mess


[19-Jul-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, provided trump doesnt decide to just nuke america himself as one last power move should he be on the verge of being taken down


[19-Jul-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP massively underestimates how thin their margins are in the Midwest states they need.


[19-Jul-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their arrogance will not help them


[19-Jul-19 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The moment Trump tries to do that, might either be the end of the world or the end of the "imperial presidency" as we perceive it


[19-Jul-19 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The president shouldn't be allowed to have that much power


[19-Jul-19 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One person shouldn't be in absolute control of the world's prime superpower's entire fucking nuclear arsenal


[19-Jul-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other problem with Trump is that the democrats are very divided right now, the elft is trying to take back control of their party while the center right is trying to keep control and push them down


[19-Jul-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both parties are falling appart at the seams


[19-Jul-19 12:27 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@prism stryder(intexda), no u


[19-Jul-19 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oops :twismug:


[19-Jul-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the2 party system is eating itself, and we're fucked if it destroy's itself completely. Because it;s the only voting system we fucking have


[19-Jul-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all things considered though, it may jsut result in the 2 party system becoming 2 seperate countries


[19-Jul-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though that's unlikely


[19-Jul-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not impossible, just very unlikely


[19-Jul-19 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I doubt the US could experience a second civil war with such well defined territorial lines though


[19-Jul-19 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd be much more of a mess than 1861


[19-Jul-19 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As the states tend to be politically rather diverse


[19-Jul-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it would likely just result in smaller versions of the west/east/north/south type of states


[19-Jul-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably split 4 ways isntead of just 2


[19-Jul-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue islands/red islands would ensure bloodshed


[19-Jul-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's also provided that if the 2 party system falls, certain people arent in just the right place to become a ruling dictator family


[19-Jul-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but america is also much much larger than north korea, or saudi arabia so that would be a lotfucking harder to enforce without retaliation


[19-Jul-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so much of our shit is built on the 2 party system structure, that if it collapses, things become nigh unpredictable


[19-Jul-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Regional parties.


[19-Jul-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, what the GOP will be post Trump because they won't have a cult of personality anymore


[19-Jul-19 12:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean if one party collapses another one just usually rapidly takes its place


[19-Jul-19 12:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and/or the other party splits


[19-Jul-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the current era democrats might end up becoming the new republican party, while th eleft retakes it;s party and builds a new one


[19-Jul-19 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
What happened last time when a party imploded was a period of single party rule. Then Martin VanBuren happened and basically helped to invent the modern political party in America. Anything to rise out if the ashes of an old party may either be roughly similar to the surviving party through a ideological split, or even something so unique to the political condition it rewrites the rules like VanBuren and the Whigs.


[19-Jul-19 12:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And then the Whigs collapsed and then up came the Republicans (read as "modern-day Democrats")


[19-Jul-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 2-party system itself leads to massive unpredictability


[19-Jul-19 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The collapse and replacement of a party has to do with the conditions of the time in which its born. The Republicans weren't waiting in the wings for the Whigs to die. But came directly from the Whigs as well as dissatisfaction of northern Dems with the shenanigans of the South.


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
third parties generally mean that the majority opinion at the time wins


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 parties only means that the minority opinion has equal representation most of the time


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and whether the majority or minority wins is a coin flip


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
So depending on what happens that kills a party's ideological, structural, or funding basis anything could arise.


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about how much hinged on Trump v Hillary


[19-Jul-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would never happen in, say, France.


[19-Jul-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately tho American law massively entrenches 2-party.


[19-Jul-19 01:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
No, it would happen. It would just matter less since there's already several parties all ready to form an opposition coalition.


[19-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually getting a multi-party solution is basically impossible.


[19-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American system needs reform at every level, and it will take decades.


[19-Jul-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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EPA rejects challenge of pesticide linked to brain damage
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Environmental Protection Agency rejected a key legal challenge Thursday to a pesticide linked to brain damage in children, saying environmental groups had failed to prove...
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[19-Jul-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
environmental destruction agency


[19-Jul-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama administration: You mean in the lab it killed the brains of fetuses? Ban the shit out of it.
Trump administration: You mean in the lab it killed the brains of fetuses? Fake news! Abortions can only be done by evil liberals, unban it and put it on our corn.


[19-Jul-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Trump: Administration to review Pentagon computer contract
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Thursday that the administration will "take a very long look" at a massive multibillion-dollar contract the Pentagon is preparing to award for a cloud...
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[19-Jul-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
tbh


[19-Jul-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
cloud computing is a total ripoff


[19-Jul-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer


[19-Jul-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/microsoft-will-give-away-software-guard-u-s-voting-machines-n1030956

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Microsoft will give away software to guard U.S. voting machines
The tech giant says it has tracked more than 700 cyberattacks by foreign adversaries against U.S. political organizations so far this election cycle.
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[19-Jul-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
I hope it's not based on windows at all, windows is insecure as fuck


[19-Jul-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have some bad news about most electronic voting machines


[19-Jul-19 05:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Based on Windows 10™ , with state-of-the-art telemetry and consistent resetting to default of certain user settings.


[19-Jul-19 05:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The only cyber attacks we'll allow is from us


[19-Jul-19 05:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hopefully they're based on Enterpeise LTSB. Imagine being unable to vote due to a mandatory software update.


[19-Jul-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
tfw you will never see the technological renaissance when cyber security is taken extremely seriously


[19-Jul-19 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not if politicians have anything to say about it anyway


[19-Jul-19 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of security is a plus in their book!


[19-Jul-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
that's the thing, eventually the ones who want everything insecure will die


[19-Jul-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
only the boomers want that


[19-Jul-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
because they don't understand that they could have literally everything stolen from them by a dedicated enough hacker


[19-Jul-19 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/16/john-paul-stevens-died-justice-obituary-121194

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John Paul Stevens, long-serving Supreme Court justice, dies at 99
The bow-tie-wearing justice gained influence over time as he evolved into the court’s most-liberal voice.
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[19-Jul-19 01:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Cybersecurity and cyberpolitics


[19-Jul-19 01:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
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Nick Land- Meltdown
'Meltdown' by Nick Land , 1994 http://www.ccru.net/swarm1/1_melt.htm Audio version presented at 'Virtual Futures', 1994 https://soundcloud.com/virtualfutures...
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[19-Jul-19 02:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://daily.jstor.org/anthropologists-hid-african-same-sex-relationships/

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Anthropologists Hid African Same-Sex Relationships | JSTOR Daily
Sex between people of the same gender has existed for millennia. But anthropologists in sub-Saharan Africa often ignored or distorted those relationships.
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[19-Jul-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
homosex was actually fairly widespread until britain started invading literally everything

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[19-Jul-19 03:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
curse you whities


[19-Jul-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the british were a special breed of white people "special"


[19-Jul-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Iran denies Trump claim that US destroyed Iranian drone
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran on Friday denied President Donald Trump's claim that a U.S. warship destroyed an Iranian drone near the Persian Gulf in another escalation of tensions between the two...
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[19-Jul-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e32a77acc6b64a6685e1ebfad9785928 This feels like an old people trying to get with the hip young folk move...

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Forget 'manmade': Berkeley bans gender-specific words
BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) — There will be no manholes in Berkeley, California. City workers will drop into "maintenance holes" instead. Nothing will be manmade in the liberal city but...
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[19-Jul-19 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
that seems a little excessive, but ok


[19-Jul-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds like they heard complaints of gender specific issues, and instead of trying to fix things, they just banned specific words to make it look liek they fixed things


[19-Jul-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also making lawsuits slightly mroe confusing because now everyone has to use different legal terms for shit


[19-Jul-19 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember an article on one of those tumblr-like blog site with someone bitching about manholes a few years ago


[19-Jul-19 05:02 PM] ononim#8141
.... why are they manholes anyway?


[19-Jul-19 05:02 PM] ononim#8141
It sounds like something some fantazy rat-goblin creature would call them because humans come into sewers through them


[19-Jul-19 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried asking google but this berkley stuff has overtaken the search


[19-Jul-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently they are indeed called man holes because men use thme to get into the sewers


[19-Jul-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were liekly named in a time when the only workers in that sort of job were men


[19-Jul-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The term manhole comes from the 19th century and originally referred to a small access hole in the top or side of a boiler that was covered with a heavy metal plate bolted in place. These holes were not meant to provide access for a man to pass through, but for an arm and hand to reach the inner parts of the boiler. “Man” in this case refers not to the gender of the worker, but is from the root word that means “hand,” as in the word “manual.” Indeed, some old boiler manuals use the words “manhole” and “handhole” synonymously. Sewer manholes were probably so-called as an extension of the general term that meant “an access hole” and the gender-specific meaning followed naturally, albeit somewhat erroneously.


[19-Jul-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
most blue collar job is almost exclusively men, women can get higher paying jobs that're much less demanding in other fields


[19-Jul-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
though I'm sure that's mostly just a cultural thing


[19-Jul-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
women aren't supposed to go out of their way to do "dirty, hard" jobs


[19-Jul-19 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think anyone really does


[19-Jul-19 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Men just have a higher tolerance for bullshit


[19-Jul-19 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
holy shit that textwall in ask the mods...


[19-Jul-19 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I said almost that exact same thing to my co-workers when I was working at that metal stamping company


[19-Jul-19 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
the break room had two single bathrooms, one marked man and one marked woman, apparently the building that it was a part of used to be some kind of woodworking factory that had both men and women working in it, and they needed separate single bathrooms for some reason


[19-Jul-19 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
and one of the younger part-timers like me asked if a woman had ever worked there before, and one of the old dudes said  no and that a woman would never tolerate that kind of work


[19-Jul-19 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
and then I made a sarcastic joke about how neither men nor women want to do this work


[19-Jul-19 06:18 PM] Crow#5457
the father of the owner (who used to own the company and still works there) burst out in laughter while the other dudes were joking about me being out of a job


[19-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
and I just mentioned how there's such a high turnover rate of part-timers


[19-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
and they all just kinda nodded and agreed


[19-Jul-19 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
said that the work is something you kind of have to have a certain mindset to do for decades on end


[19-Jul-19 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
because all the old guys there had been working that sort of job for decades


[19-Jul-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
I mentioned this before, but doing that sort of work made me realize why big companies invested so much money into automating the process, having accident-prone humans working around heavy machinery like that inevitably leads to some incredibly nasty injuries


[19-Jul-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
and lost productivity just from the repetitive nature


[19-Jul-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
basically, automation is the pinnacle of profitability


[19-Jul-19 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
the machinery I was working with dated back to the 30's and 40's, a lot of it was not designed with sitting in mind, and some of them had literally a single slip of the finger away from losing that finger


[19-Jul-19 06:24 PM] Crow#5457
basically, they just told me to put my hands on the sides of the machine when pushing the pedal to activate it with my foot in order to avoid having to think about it


[19-Jul-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
which of course makes things slightly slower, but it completely eliminates the safety issue as long as the user doesn't forget about it, and if there's one thing I'm really good at remembering, it's rules and guidelines


[19-Jul-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok


[19-Jul-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do we know the motivation of the KyoAmi arsonist yet


[19-Jul-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
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How do you get rid of corruption?
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[19-Jul-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
apparently puerto rico's having a bit of a meltdown atm


[19-Jul-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is even happening there?


[19-Jul-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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2020 Dems grapple with how to pay for 'Medicare for All'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidates trying to appeal to progressive voters with a call for "Medicare for All" are wrestling with the thorny question of how to pay for such a...
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[19-Jul-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Germany honors resisters who tried to assassinate Hitler
BERLIN (AP) — Germany is marking the 75th anniversary of the most famous plot to kill Adolf Hitler, honoring those who resisted the Nazis — who were stigmatized for decades as traitors — as...
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[19-Jul-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Federal judge upholds a Trump alternative to 'Obamacare'
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge is upholding the Trump administration's expansion of cheaper short-term health insurance plans as an alternative to the Affordable Care Act's costlier...
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[19-Jul-19 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Jul-19 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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BREAKING. A second British tanker has been seized. The vessel, like the earlier seized Stena Impero, was observed on maritime tracking services making a sudden turn and heading towards Iran. https://t.co/zn9Z9OuoNd
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[19-Jul-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Jul-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They can govern, they just don't get the chance to a lot because they would rather be civil than so things to gain power


[19-Jul-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly i think it;s time to just reach out to the people by calling republican politicians a bunch of douches. It's one thing to label thme racist, they expect that and have an answer for it. It's another thing to call them a bunch of douchey assholes.


[19-Jul-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They would not expect that level of crass in their opponent's bullshit call outs


[19-Jul-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need tyo come up with a balance of civil crass


[19-Jul-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Call them arrogant and not caring about anyone outside their base


[19-Jul-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you don't agree exactly with them you can die for all they care


[19-Jul-19 11:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Their response: "So?"


[19-Jul-19 11:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
An appeal to humanity will not work for a group of people whose leadership now espouses a lack of empathy as being patriotic


[19-Jul-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their response doesn't matter, people know that they're not being focused on


[19-Jul-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP doesn't care about you unless you're whole hog into Trump and go to rallies and shit


[19-Jul-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What even

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[19-Jul-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Ree liberal paper straws


[19-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Remember to reuse and recycle these straws!


[20-Jul-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Labor nominee Scalia has long record of opposing regulations
WASHINGTON (AP) — Eugene Scalia has a decades-long record of challenging Labor Department and other federal regulations, as well as a famous last name. The combination proved irresistible to...
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[20-Jul-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Eugene Scalia has a decades-long record of challenging Labor Department and other federal regulations, as well as a famous last name. The combination proved irresistible to President Donald Trump.

Trump selected Scalia Thursday to be his new labor secretary. If formally nominated and confirmed, he’ll join an administration that has moved aggressively to reverse regulations and work under a president who had repeatedly lauded Scalia’s late father, Justice Antonin Scalia .

The president announced the news on Twitter less than a week after his previous secretary, Alexander Acosta, said he would resign amid renewed criticism of how, as a federal prosecutor, he handled a 2008 secret plea deal with wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein. The financier was indicted this month on charges of sexually abusing underage girls and pleaded not guilty.


[20-Jul-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Appeals court upholds Trump move to drop mine pollution rule
BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — A U.S. appeals court panel sided with the Trump administration Friday in a mining pollution dispute, ruling that state and federal programs already in place ensure that...
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[20-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
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Just spoke to @KanyeWest about his friend A$AP Rocky’s incarceration. I will be calling the very talented Prime Minister of Sweden to see what we can do about helping A$AP Rocky. So many people would like to see this quickly resolved!
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[20-Jul-19 12:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
m~~e~~agathonk


[20-Jul-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, he is rich, ergo he could never be allowed to sit in a foreign prison


[20-Jul-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we jsut have to remedy this immediatley regardless of the crime he commited


[20-Jul-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if we help him out of prison, then we can prove Trump isn;t a racist, right guys?


[20-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't have the link but supposedly McConnell is the most unpopular senator


[20-Jul-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[20-Jul-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is shocking news


[20-Jul-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McGrath may have a chance


[20-Jul-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnel unliked? who could have seen that coming


[20-Jul-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope McGrath wipes the floor with his turtley face


[20-Jul-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-debt-trump/trump-says-will-not-use-u-s-debt-ceiling-to-negotiate-spending-deal-with-congress-idUSKCN1UE237

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Trump says will not use U.S. debt ceiling to negotiate spending...
President Donald Trump said on Friday he could not imagine using the United Stat...
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[20-Jul-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>President Donald Trump said on Friday he could not imagine using the United States’ debt ceiling as a tool to negotiate a spending deal with lawmakers in Congress, saying the government’s credit rating was sacred.

“Hopefully we’re in good shape on the debt ceiling. I can’t imagine anybody ever even thinking of using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

“I don’t think anybody would want to play that card.”

U.S. borrowing authority could be exhausted sometime in September, according to the latest administration estimates, rather than in October or November, as had earlier been projected.


[20-Jul-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
translation: I'm going to backtrack on this later and totally use it when it's convenient to play that card"


[20-Jul-19 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
i swear if it's a repeat of january


[20-Jul-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eugh


[20-Jul-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
allowing Trump to remove that mine pollution set-aside rule is a big deal


[20-Jul-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
mining waste is horrid


[20-Jul-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
any time you let a mining company mine and then not clean it up, it causes severe damage


[20-Jul-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's absolute BS that the existing regulations will cover it.


[20-Jul-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they don't care aslong as thye make a quick buck off the suffering of others


[20-Jul-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the miners will barely see any of that money either, and the polluted water supply will probably kill anyone who can do anything about it


[20-Jul-19 12:55 AM] Mikey#7286
miners will die too


[20-Jul-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can bet you trump is also trying to reverse the regulations keeping a repeat of the radium girls from happening


[20-Jul-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and asbestos


[20-Jul-19 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[20-Jul-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Jul-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
New developments in the John McAfee saga


[20-Jul-19 02:34 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[20-Jul-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As if his cocktail he invented wasn't an odd enough story this year.


[20-Jul-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
r/iamverybadass


[20-Jul-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's out to fuck some whales


[20-Jul-19 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he is the mcafee anti virus guy?


[20-Jul-19 04:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yep


[20-Jul-19 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He sold the company away years ago


[20-Jul-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After that he left to some tropical islands murdered a guy, fled the law, built a Far Cry 1 style merc society on another island, returned to the states, ran for president, became a pro-whale fucking lobbyist, and is now on the run from the CIA, probably for posting about weapons you can pass through airport security


[20-Jul-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whale fucking part, I don't mean whale hunting or the like, I mean literal "engage in sexual congress with whales"


[20-Jul-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not dolphins or smaller cetaceans, but blue whales


[20-Jul-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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Enough of the "Whale Fucking is non-consensual" bullshit. A Humpback Whale weighs 70,000 pounds, is fifty feet long, can dive more than a quarter mile and can crush ships with a single swipe of its tail. If a human manages to fuck one, you damn well better believe it's con...
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[20-Jul-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, he's also a huge Jojo fan


[20-Jul-19 04:15 AM] Mikey#7286
the fuck


[20-Jul-19 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, a lot of his posts make sense, but they're shrouded in a haze of atomized LSD and speed


[20-Jul-19 04:20 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[20-Jul-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if you're gonna go for marine mammals, why settle for the small ones?


[20-Jul-19 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jul-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can honestly no longer tell if that's a joke or not


[20-Jul-19 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know, it;s disturbing


[20-Jul-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Calm down Antonin Scalia


[20-Jul-19 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[20-Jul-19 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, the KKK isn't classed as a terrorist organization


[20-Jul-19 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems about right


[20-Jul-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis are marching to terrorize minorities? Fine. Anti-nazis are marching to get them to go away? SEND IN THE POLICE.


[20-Jul-19 06:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knwo them harmless nazis, filled with the safest hatred there is!


[20-Jul-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[20-Jul-19 03:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
um


[20-Jul-19 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, the LA times is on my list of news outlets I refuse to visit because they block incognito mode


[20-Jul-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well thne i need to find a different source


[20-Jul-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Fewer mock commando raids to test nuclear power plants' defenses against terrorist attacks. Fewer, smaller government inspections for plant safety issues. Less notice to the...
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[20-Jul-19 03:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
AP, reuters, and politico tend to be reliable


[20-Jul-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there we go i foudn the ap link


[20-Jul-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Fewer mock commando raids to test nuclear power plants’ defenses against terrorist attacks. Fewer, smaller government inspections for plant safety issues. Less notice to the public and to state governors when problems arise.

They’re part of the money-saving rollbacks sought by the country’s nuclear industry under President Donald Trump and already approved or pending approval by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, largely with little input from the general public.

The nuclear power industry says the safety culture at the U.S. nuclear industry — 40 years after partial meltdown of a nuclear reactor at Three Mile Island — is “exceptional” and merits the easing of government inspections.

Maria Korsnick, president of the industry’s Nuclear Energy Institute trade group, said she welcomed changes in NRC plant oversight procedure “to ensure that it reflects a more robust understanding of the current performance of the U.S. nuclear fleet.”

Opponents say the changes are bringing the administration’s business-friendly, rule-cutting mission to an industry — nuclear reactors — where the stakes are too high to cut corners.


[20-Jul-19 03:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah considering the age of most of these plants I definitely think the government inspections aren't something we should let them self-regulate


[20-Jul-19 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also don't see how it saves money to roll back these regulations because it puts the financial burden of carrying out the inspections and drills squarely on the industry itself - given the motivation, I have zero confidence that they'll be performed at anywhere near the same frequency


[20-Jul-19 03:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and by "anywhere near" I mean "pretty much at all"


[20-Jul-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I predicted Trump would nuke america, I didnt think he;d use power plants instead of missiles


[20-Jul-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to hazard a guess as to how far he intends to roll back regulations on things, the chicago river used to be covered in a layer of toxic foam, that might come bakc in coming years


[20-Jul-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so yeah, Trump is quite literally trying to reset regulations back to the 1950's when industries were mass mrudering literally everyone


[20-Jul-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if towards the end of his run he just attempts to disband the EPA entirely


[20-Jul-19 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's no surprise at all


[20-Jul-19 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's one of the things in the heritage foundation's presidential mandate for 2016, more or less


[20-Jul-19 03:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wish I could find an updated chart for 2019 showing just *how much* of that list Trump has achieved


[20-Jul-19 03:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially since the right likes to point to Trump fulfilling his campaign promises as evidence he's a good president, even to the extent of claiming victory on "build the wall and have mexico pay for it"


[20-Jul-19 03:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't particularly see *how*


[20-Jul-19 03:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but they do


[20-Jul-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the right is made up of billionaires wanting ecological destruction for the sake of profit, as long as thye have brainwashed followers thne trump is a good president


[20-Jul-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s not a good president for america the country, he;s a good rpesident for america, the multi trillion envrionmental destruction corporation


[20-Jul-19 03:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But really, there is a hard document floating out there somewhere that used to be on the heritage foundation's website showing literal checkboxes for Trump's rampant dismantling of the government in his first year. I'm having trouble finding it


[20-Jul-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can piece it together just looking at articles thye publish


[20-Jul-19 03:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wish I'd saved it myself, the list of things they wanted him to do was a horror show of deregulation, and he'd managed like 60% of it


[20-Jul-19 03:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it was all in one place


[20-Jul-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their goals are basically dismantle everything that came after the 1920's


[20-Jul-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
roll it all back to the economic boom era


[20-Jul-19 03:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
My impression is "why stop there"


[20-Jul-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to guess at their motives, they think if thye roll bakc all the regulations the fluke of an economic boom will repeat itself. but it will jsut destroy our country instead


[20-Jul-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and possibly most of human civilization


[20-Jul-19 03:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's literally just "the south will rise again" but this time they're trying to do it from within, rather than spark Civil War 2: Nuclear Boogaloo


[20-Jul-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the south should really just fucking die


[20-Jul-19 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no civil war 2


[20-Jul-19 03:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're just one infinity stone short of having the full America gauntlet at this point


[20-Jul-19 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
civil war 1 never ended


[20-Jul-19 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
film is still rolling


[20-Jul-19 03:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
all they need is the justice department fully stocked with Republicans, and then they can operate entirely above that silly "republic"


[20-Jul-19 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they've already managed a lot of court stacking


[20-Jul-19 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we may actually have to use their gun fetish against them if we plan to get anywhere


[20-Jul-19 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and when I mentioned this to a republican friend of mine, his response was "now you know how we felt under Obama"


[20-Jul-19 03:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
correct me if I'm wrong, but it didn't exactly feel like the obama administration really steamrolled out a whole bunch of liberal stuff. As I recall, his presidency was plagued by an intractible, do-nothing congress


[20-Jul-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Obama did not really get a lot done, no


[20-Jul-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even his healthcare reform was half murdered by repiublicans


[20-Jul-19 03:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a healthcare reform plan originally proposed by *the Heritage Foundation themselves* when they put the idea in Romney's ear


[20-Jul-19 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if a liberal makes it happen then  they wont get the credit and the south caqnt bank roll off it


[20-Jul-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope the south implodes with the force of a power vacuum


[20-Jul-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be fascinating to watch centuries of build up eat itself alive


[20-Jul-19 03:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't see that happening within my lifetime, though. This cult of personality has refreshed a lot of ideas that should've died with the boomers


[20-Jul-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i may just try to leave the country


[20-Jul-19 04:03 PM] byte[]#2610
shut the fuck up _boomer_


[20-Jul-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ireland looks nice and non southern this time of year


[20-Jul-19 04:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah, yes, ireland


[20-Jul-19 04:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the country known for a lack of political insurgency


[20-Jul-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's uh, pretty catholic and conservative there


[20-Jul-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but it;s not america;s brand of catholic conservatism...


[20-Jul-19 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a pretty specific brand of catholic conservatism...


[20-Jul-19 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my other choice is finland


[20-Jul-19 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finland looks liek a nice place to live


[20-Jul-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd go for new zealand or canada but i think they;re sick of american immigrants


[20-Jul-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that and canada is still part of north america, so if america has a fallout, that shit might spread into canada and i want no part of that


[20-Jul-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ireland also has a functioning goddamned healthcare system


[20-Jul-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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    country.HasGoodHealthcare = true;
}
```


[20-Jul-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/19/743683131/trump-seizes-on-soggy-paper-straws-as-campaign-issue-make-straws-great-again

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Trump Seizes On Soggy Paper Straws As Campaign Issue: 'Make Straws...
The president's reelection campaign is now selling reusable and recycled straws in their 2020 online store, because they claim "lberal paper straws don't work."
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[20-Jul-19 05:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
:wat:


[20-Jul-19 05:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he really does hate california that much, huh


[20-Jul-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes he does


[20-Jul-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now here's the straw political alignment s made in another discord


[20-Jul-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
libertarian left: paper straw
authoritarian left: metal tube
libertarian right: plastic straw
authoritarian right: metal stick


[20-Jul-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
authoritarian right is a metal stick because being able to suck your drink through it would be communism


[20-Jul-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
>In 2010 Republicans reintroduced styrofoam to the capitol cafeteria


[20-Jul-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those FUKKING MONSTERS


[20-Jul-19 06:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhxjJi1cJ0

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Sargon of Akkad
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The Meltdown
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[20-Jul-19 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ULCb1eB.jpg

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[20-Jul-19 06:59 PM] Mikey#7286
Wat


[20-Jul-19 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/12050/why-four-lights

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Why four lights?
In Chain of Command, Part II Picard is tortured by Madred, a Cardasian who tries to force Picard to tell him there are 5 lights, when in fact the real number is four. He could have used any other m...
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[20-Jul-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that george orwell was an antifascist fighter in ww2


[20-Jul-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
he was considered unfit to join the british military due to weak lungs or something, so he joined a citizen's militia to go kill some nazis instead


[20-Jul-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/oKusqEj

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This, this is just sad...
https://i.imgur.com/Jm37HUZh.jpg


[20-Jul-19 07:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Skin-to-Skin after C-Section still gets me


[20-Jul-19 07:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And then there's always that one jackass https://imgur.com/gallery/oKusqEj/comment/1685671103

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This, this is just sad...
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[20-Jul-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS.


[20-Jul-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
*Picard is released and sent bakk to his ship, having divulged no secrets*


[20-Jul-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, it may hav not lived up to DS9's balls-to-the-wall stuff, but TNG did giv some idea of what the evil guys actually do that's evil.


[20-Jul-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Picard was tortured by being denied basic comforts and such, by a guy who brought in his little girl to watch.


[20-Jul-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And just repeatedly told there were five lights, not four.


[20-Jul-19 08:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[20-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's pretty much Bush-era CIA level shit


[20-Jul-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
really helps you understand why what the CIA did was wrong.


[20-Jul-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically a recreation of the 2 + 2 = 5 scene from 1984


[20-Jul-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
the reason why the dude in 1984 didn't resist for long is because he's supposed to be the average person


[20-Jul-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
picard is a character that represents the pinnacle of humanity


[20-Jul-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
granted, I haven't seen the episode, so idk the specifics


[20-Jul-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like he wasn't held indefinitely for whatever reason


[20-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was held for a week or two


[20-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and by the end he was wearing down, but was still able to shout that there were 4 lights when he was to be released.


[20-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
did he know he was going to be released?


[20-Jul-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
there's a psychological rock to cling to when you know there's hope of release


[20-Jul-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
it's two near-completely different situations when you're being held by enemies of your country/tribe/etc being psychologically tortured and being held by your own country that you know you won't ever escape from


[20-Jul-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was deep in enemy territory, captured from a secret mission


[20-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
chance of release was basically nil


[20-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Cardassians wouldn't even say he was being held.


[20-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some other captain took command of his ship and got shit done, and Cardassians released him to avoid war.


[21-Jul-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610

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[21-Jul-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Gamer mode activated


[21-Jul-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamer truck pee


[21-Jul-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
why is this political again


[21-Jul-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rising up is political


[21-Jul-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
what's it have to do with gamers though


[21-Jul-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/vBdpXYG

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On 18th July
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[21-Jul-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda looks like a dance though


[21-Jul-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/poland-lgbt-free-zones-homophobia-hate-speech-law-justice-party-a9013551.html

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Polish cities and provinces declare ‘LGBT-free zones’
Law and Justice party leader says LGBT+ people are a ‘threat to Polish identity, to our nation, to its existence and thus to the Polish state’
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[21-Jul-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[21-Jul-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
merica


[21-Jul-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck yeah


[21-Jul-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has the best healthcare system, the biggest, smartest healthcare!


[21-Jul-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't even get served that much faster in the US


[21-Jul-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You pay a lot but still wait hours at the ER


[21-Jul-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately isn't that much different from the Canadian "nightmare" conservatives warn us about


[21-Jul-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NIGHTMARE is that you might need to wait 6 months maximum for some minor surgery.


[21-Jul-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to getting it fast and being in debt for 6 months minimum.


[21-Jul-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember a 2007 mockuumentary about life in 2057


[21-Jul-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The toilets analyzed your urine to see if you were drunk


[21-Jul-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I linked that in general recently, and it's not really mokking.


[21-Jul-19 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy tripped over a Roomba and fell two floors and was put in the paying ward until they found out he drank the night before so he got put in the free one


[21-Jul-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was Michio Kaku talking about the tech of the future city, and was the healthcare episode


[21-Jul-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
naturally, since it was set in Ameriparis, it had absolute BS you'd get from America, with an Eiffel tower and some European accents.


[21-Jul-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wonder what production fukkup made it set in both Paris and America.


[21-Jul-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They probably wanted America the whole time to lambast how shitty private healthcare stuff is


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then someone along the way didn't get the memo so made it Paris


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember it ended on the ISS on the border of an American-Russian wae


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
yeah


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the power ep I think


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the ISS was figuring out better solar panels


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
OR ELSE WAR WERE DECLARED


[21-Jul-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also a kid's dolphin hologram AI infected the whole city as malware


[21-Jul-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so they had to use PHYSICAL STORAGE consisting of superdense crystal cube thingies.


[21-Jul-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess batteries don't exist to read flash cards in the future.


[21-Jul-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man I figured no one else remembered that TV show


[21-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forgetting Michio Kaku is a crime.


[21-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so aesthetic of 2007


[21-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a 2000s sci fi asthetic


[21-Jul-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
very Minority Report.


[21-Jul-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dystopia with clear smooth plastic glass everywhere


[21-Jul-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More realistic now than you would expect though.


[21-Jul-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/XHM1O3l

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There it is.
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[21-Jul-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/0tHRkVL.jpg

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[21-Jul-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jul-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/DXbJuCB.jpg

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[21-Jul-19 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3rxOm3b.png

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[21-Jul-19 01:49 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking I just wanted to link it


[21-Jul-19 01:49 PM] ononim#8141
Who else but Polska


[21-Jul-19 03:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.noaa.gov/news/june-2019-was-hottest-on-record-for-globe

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June 2019 was hottest on record for the globe | National Oceanic a...
Antarctic sea ice coverage shrank to new record low


[21-Jul-19 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Spicy https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/status/1152699267787689984

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https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/status/1152699267787689984
Germans know fascism when they see it.
Today the nation's top magazine, Stern, declares @POTUS @realDonaldTrump a Nazi.
Yesterday Chancellor Angela Merkel came to the defense of US Congress "Squad."
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[21-Jul-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Hahahaha


[21-Jul-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[21-Jul-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/07/20/school-district-parents-pay-your-lunch-debt-or-your-kids-might-wind-up-foster-care/

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[21-Jul-19 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
I hate how nazis are somehow painting antifa successfully as free speech attackers


[21-Jul-19 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get how people are seriously dumb enough to believe that the ANTI-FASCISTS are coming for your freedom of speech


[21-Jul-19 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
anti-fascists are basically just militant leftists who don't want to see a repeat of nazi germany


[21-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Crow#5457
I guess it's because people think that because they feel like they aren't allowed to freely attack transgenders and whatnot that their freedom of speech is being attacked or something


[21-Jul-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i beleive the stretched logic is: "Hate speech is a form of speech, and as it is a form of opinionated speech, it falls under free speech and as such i should be allowed to yell to the death for the death of all those i dislike"


[21-Jul-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne they go and shoot up a mosque and declare that it too falls under the 2nd ammendment some how


[21-Jul-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But if anyone so dares to attempt to stand in their way, theninterlopers must be dealt with as terrorists for daring to stand up to the mighty whities


[21-Jul-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/46e12a11287d49c1ba5a554fc222be81

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Hotels face battle over whether to help US house migrants
DETROIT (AP) — There's a new target in the clash over immigration: hotels. Advocacy groups and unions are pressuring Marriott, MGM and others not to house migrants who have been arrested by...
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[21-Jul-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/20/20701898/puerto-rico-protests-ricardo-rossello-resign-ricky-renuncia-text-scandal

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Puerto Rico’s week of massive protests, explained
Two scandals have led to more than a week of protests calling for Gov. Ricardo Rosselló’s resignation.
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[21-Jul-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
>The protests arose in response to the leak of Telegram app messages in which Gov. Ricardo Rosselló and his inner circle make light of the casualties caused by Hurricane Maria and disparage political opponents using vulgar, homophobic, and sexist language.


[21-Jul-19 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jul-19 05:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/3-million-gallons-of-untreated-sewage-spill-into-washington-water-after-power-outage-prompting-beach-closures

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3 million gallons of 'untreated sewage' spill into Puget Sound aft...
State officials in Washington are investigating after an estimated 3 million gallons of “untreated sewage” was dumped in the Puget Sound in just under 30 minutes Friday morning.
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[21-Jul-19 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Oops


[21-Jul-19 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Philippines, with beer back in hand: Duterte is the most outrageous president in the world!


[21-Jul-19 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil: HOLD MY CAIPIRINHA


[21-Jul-19 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://www.diariodomeiodomundo.com.br/2017/09/bolsonaro-admite-que-praticou-zoofilia.html

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Bolsonaro admite que praticou zoofilia, que é o "sexo" com animais.
O deputado federal Jair Bolsonaro (PSC) admitiu que já praticou zoofilia, que é a pratica do “sexo” com animais. Em entrevista ao programa CQC, da Band Tv, o então repórter Rafael Cortez perguntou ao político se ele, por ter nascido no interior, havia tido sua inicia...
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[21-Jul-19 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TL;DR: Bolsonaro admits in interview that he fucked farm animals when he was younger.

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[21-Jul-19 05:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this is his face when they impeached him right away?


[21-Jul-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah that's his face when he took it up the ass from a horse


[21-Jul-19 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Mr. Hands


[21-Jul-19 06:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What an expressive way to narrate youth experiences!


[21-Jul-19 06:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Mr. Hooves


[21-Jul-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow "It's your fault you're poor and it's because you lack initiative and an entrepreunerial spirit" is itself the code


[21-Jul-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's code for Calvinism, or Malthusianism, even


[21-Jul-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
A religious belief that the poor are destined to be poor because they are lazy and nonvirtuous in soul.


[21-Jul-19 07:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/07/20/russian-intelligence-has-been-hacked-with-social-media-and-tor-projects-exposed/#261f4096b115

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Russia's Secret Intelligence Agency Hacked: 'Largest Data Breach I...
Hackers successfully targeted Russia's state security agency last week through a major contractor, stealing and publishing details of secret internet projects including social media scraping and Tor de-anonymization.
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[21-Jul-19 07:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The hackers managed to steal 7.5 terabytes of data from a major contractor, exposing secret FSB projects to de-anonymize Tor browsing, scrape social media, and help the state split its internet off from the rest of the world. The data was passed to mainstream media outlets for publishing.`


[21-Jul-19 07:30 PM] ononim#8141
Based and Hackerpilled


[21-Jul-19 07:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wish the internet had sovereignty over itself, but unfortunately the only people liable to declare themselves the "president of the internet" are currently either using metadata to learn how to appear human, or hiding out on a boat in the middle of the pacific ocean


[21-Jul-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's not hiding, he's hunting down a whale to mate with

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[21-Jul-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are any of these real


[21-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They seem to all source back to me.me of all places


[21-Jul-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that banner itself looks like it could've been laced by anyone...


[21-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Litrojia#0612
They're not


[21-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
If you imagined one of these without the second meanings, would something like this be a convincing ad at all?


[21-Jul-19 08:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Just black text saying "We will eradicate homelessness by 2025" or something cliche on a white background and a small party logo? I wouldn't think so


[21-Jul-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
They're real stickers (like, people actually stuck them up)


[21-Jul-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
But they're not actually made by the Tories


[21-Jul-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
(even though that's what the Tories want)


[21-Jul-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
We will cut all homeless people in half by 2025


[21-Jul-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a vote for us is a vote for hobo murder!


[21-Jul-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to be confused with murder hobos


[21-Jul-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those dirty liberals and their violent murder hobo ways


[22-Jul-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5b850ffe295e4f688d8f876047d5e76f

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Aide: Trump criticism of US not same as 4 Democrats' words
BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J. (AP) — A top White House adviser on Sunday claimed there was a "huge difference" between Donald Trump's criticisms of America during the 2016 presidential campaign and the...
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[22-Jul-19 02:43 AM] ononim#8141
```I will close by quoting from Medvedev’s article about the Russian Constitution, which I mentioned earlier.

“While recognizing and protecting human rights, the Russian Constitution limits the claims made on the defense of these rights by not recognizing as rights those that are at odds with Russian society’s traditional values. The idea of human rights is thus given a new interpretation in relation to other constitutions, marking out a particular, original, nonstandard approach to the way human rights are regarded.”```


[22-Jul-19 02:44 AM] ononim#8141
Thanks Dima, very cool


[22-Jul-19 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/21/743957555/puerto-rico-gov-ricardo-rossello-says-he-will-not-seek-reelection-in-2020

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Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello Says He Will Not Seek Reelection...
The announcement comes after a week of protests over leaked messages exchanged by Rossello and his staff that included homophobic and misogynistic slurs.
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[22-Jul-19 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[22-Jul-19 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They replaced Taiwan and Japan with two random symbols


[22-Jul-19 11:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/21/europe/bialystok-polish-lgbtq-pride-intl/index.html

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Polish city holds first LGBTQ pride parade despite far-right violence
A Polish city celebrated its first-ever LGBTQ equality march on Saturday, but it struck a starkly different tone to the joyous and hedonistic affairs associated with pride parades.
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[22-Jul-19 11:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://lawtriz.tumblr.com/post/186449530356/massacre-at-pride-parade-in-poland

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massacre at pride parade in poland
this is a signal boost. please share it, for the love of god, media doesn’t cover this enough

yesterday my city held its first pride parade. we were warned by the far right that they won’t allow it...
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[22-Jul-19 12:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
typical slavs


[22-Jul-19 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Brutal assault in Hong Kong


[22-Jul-19 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/07/22/just-chaos-bloodshed-hong-kong-district-hundreds-masked-men-assault-protesters-journalists-residents/

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Chaos and bloodshed in Hong Kong district as hundreds of masked me...
Hundreds of masked assailants dressed in white have assaulted residents, protesters, journalists and a lawmaker in Yuen Long, hours after an anti-extradition law march ended. Update: Hong Kong police made no arrests after mob assaulted commuters, protesters, journalists The ...
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[22-Jul-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
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[22-Jul-19 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_a206330a-aa5c-11e9-a2da-e7a8c6248a10.html

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Gretna police officer suggests U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ...
A Gretna police officer posted a comment on his Facebook page this past week calling U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a "vile idiot" who "needs a round, and I don't mean
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[22-Jul-19 03:11 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
Do you know what happened in hk?


[22-Jul-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jul-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Dude shut up nobody has even charged you yet


[22-Jul-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich person defense 101


[22-Jul-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obfuscate everything before you're charged.


[22-Jul-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
He's gonna be so fucked when he leaves office


[22-Jul-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[22-Jul-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Come on Mueller just say that you meant for Congress to go for impeachment


[22-Jul-19 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's legit super depressing how Trump so closely resembles something from a comedy sketch


[22-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
President of the US, on twitter, insulting the FBI, all his political opponents, yelling in allcaps like he's ordering THE TRUTH into people's skulls, and then switching to whataboutism


[22-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The most depressing thing is that this is the basic premise Caesar used


[22-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Caesar was smart and maneuvered his way thru things until all hell broke loose with Pompey turning on him


[22-Jul-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is just an idiot


[22-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not supposed to be this hard to get an idiot out of office.


[22-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So many movies and shows where presidents get assassinated


[22-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And here we are


[22-Jul-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With the dumbest idiot that could clown his way through to get top viewer ratings


[22-Jul-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking rich people.


[22-Jul-19 09:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I remember a president that looked like a fool, behaved like a fool. Result? About $6BN was stolen from state funds.


[22-Jul-19 09:02 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Yeah makes *Selina Meyers* look a desirable reality.


[22-Jul-19 10:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k50V-K4G1o
Vox advocates national socialism

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The Left Is Embracing Fascistic Ideology, Vox Entertains "Socialist Nationalism." Perhaps Vox just made a silly gaffe in suggesting that "Socialist Nationali...
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[22-Jul-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Betting it's a strawman


[22-Jul-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/454194-almost-half-of-americans-say-criticizing-america-is-unpatriotic

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Almost half of Americans say criticizing America is unpatriotic, p...
Nearly half of voters say criticizing America is unpatriotic, according to a new Hill-HarrisX poll released on Monday.
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[22-Jul-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess which generations think this the most?


[22-Jul-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Go on, guess


[22-Jul-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
does it start with b and end with oomer


[22-Jul-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Gen X, oddly.


[22-Jul-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like aren't they the generation that had punk


[22-Jul-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-gif-5787388

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[23-Jul-19 12:51 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.newsweek.com/alaskas-police-crisis-every-cop-this-village-has-been-convicted-domestic-violence-1450106

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Alaska's police crisis: Every cop in this village has been convict...
Issues related to understaffing and lack of funding has forced the coastal town of Stebbins to drastically relax their hiring standards for police officers.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1513380/alaska-cops-domestic-violence.jpg


[23-Jul-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I figured real estate in Alaska would be cheap, but not even


[23-Jul-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of random lots 100km away from any sort of road


[23-Jul-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X liked the *image* of rebellion, against the silents, but ultimately it's just boomers with rokk and roll added.


[23-Jul-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The generation of apathy until it personally affects you, at which point you go all Footloose, solve your specific problem, and forget that other people hav problems.


[23-Jul-19 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gen X had primo boomer parents' money, the economy was still "OK", and "AMERICA IS AWESOME" in the media was back to its peak after that shameful dip during the 60-70


[23-Jul-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a "normal" world, Gen X would be in charge politically right now


[23-Jul-19 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suburban families with two cars and 4 bedroom homes with a single parent in a blue collar job were real


[23-Jul-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and would be allowing some change


[23-Jul-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we basically became a geritocracy on top of a plutocracy


[23-Jul-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X saw no reason to replace politically and Boomers didn't allow it to


[23-Jul-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senators get reelected like 98% of the time.


[23-Jul-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very real likelihood that when Boomers are no longer the majority of politicians, Millennials will be instead.


[23-Jul-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X will just plain get skipped.


[23-Jul-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hard to run against someone that's spent (at least) the last 6 years running a reelection campaign and sucking a whole lot of dick for money


[23-Jul-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jul-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/business/britain-pound-brexit.html

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The Pound Is a Brexit Barometer. It’s Not Looking Great Right Now.
Britain’s currency has slumped as uncertainty grows over how and when the U.K. will leave the European Union.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/07/22/business/22poundexplainer1/22poundexplainer1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Jul-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for the pound to be the same value as the dollar?


[23-Jul-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1 Pound sterling equals 1,11 Euro


[23-Jul-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[23-Jul-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1 Pound sterling equals 1,25 USD


[23-Jul-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OOF


[23-Jul-19 01:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Waiting for it to be the same value as the euro so I can start using both were I live. Life on the border basically means you need to carry both Euro and Pounds. Shops in the north will usually take Euros as equal to the pound when it slumps to  £1 = €1.10.


[23-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This reminds me


[23-Jul-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When arcades in Spain went from 1 coin = 100 pesetas coin, to 1 euro


[23-Jul-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A euro being 166~ pesetas


[23-Jul-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same thing happened with a lot of low-cost goods and services


[23-Jul-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like coffee or bagels


[23-Jul-19 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-boasts-afghanistan-would-be-easy-to-fix-i-just-dont-want-to-kill-10-million-people-190412501.html

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Trump boasts Afghanistan would be easy to fix: 'I just don't want ...
The president said he could “win that war in a week.”
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[23-Jul-19 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's such an amazing diplomat...


[23-Jul-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"afghanistan is easy to fix, we just to have go on a mass genocide!"


[23-Jul-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now, where;s that nobel peace prize i earned? I deserve it!"


[23-Jul-19 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
No more conflict and wars if there's no one left to wage them


[23-Jul-19 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
big thonk :ponythinking:


[23-Jul-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>“We’re like policemen. We’re not fighting a war. If we wanted to fight a war in Afghanistan and win it, I could win that war in a week,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan. “I just don’t want to kill 10 million people.”

The population of Afghanistan is around 35 million.

“I have plans on Afghanistan that if I wanted to win that war, Afghanistan would be wiped off the face of the earth. It would be gone, it would be over literally in 10 days.”


[23-Jul-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jul-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Your daily dose of fuck poor people


[23-Jul-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Brought to you by the GOP


[23-Jul-19 04:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
is the director of that school's district a member of the republican party?


[23-Jul-19 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
It was the district lawyer who sent it unofficially on behalf of the school district


[23-Jul-19 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know if he was actually a member of the GOP; my point is that his actions are consistent with the motives of the party


[23-Jul-19 05:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's still an assumption.


[23-Jul-19 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What part of "this is a pattern of behavior we've seen before and have thousands of examples of similar actions" is an assumption


[23-Jul-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, this is Luzerne County. It's republican.


[23-Jul-19 05:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Do you have an example  of this "consistent behavior"? because i don't recall statements or actions set forth by the party to removed kids because of school debt.
Yes but is the head of the schooldistrict a republican? is the lawyer who wrote this drivel a republican?
and if it was sent unofficially. why did the lawyer do that when if it was not approved by the district and therefore would not be enforceable?


[23-Jul-19 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Joseph Muth was the one who signed the letter, first of all. Second, Irv DeRemer and Charles Coslett are indeed both republicans (and while I couldn't find anything saying so, I doubt Muth is a bleeding-heart liberal, either). And as for examples, I spent the least time on this, I just searched up "school board lunch program controversy" and clicked the first thing I saw that matched those keywords


[23-Jul-19 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/co/2017/12/04/douglas-county-school-board-ends-controversial-voucher-program/

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https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/co/2017/12/04/douglas-county-school-board-ends-controversial-voucher-program/
Douglas County school board ends controversial voucher program
The board also voted to direct the school district to end a long-running legal defense of the program.
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[23-Jul-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the key phrase to take from this is the one about `The board’s action is a blow to conservative education reform advocates and voucher supporters in Colorado and across the country. Proponents of vouchers had hoped a victory at the U.S. Supreme Court would set a national precedent.`


[23-Jul-19 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this was literally the first example I clicked and right there is a sign that *just maybe* there's a conservative agenda here


[23-Jul-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vouchers are an interesting idea but ultimately the best they'd ever do is a small diffusion effect, and if they were put out in a biased way, they could easily entrench better-off families with more school choices.


[23-Jul-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't want to fix the school system.


[23-Jul-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, the problem with the school system is that it's a public service.


[23-Jul-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want poor people to PAY for things.


[23-Jul-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/AZezHCy

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What happened in HK on July 21, 2019.
https://i.imgur.com/iBkUdo3h.jpg


[23-Jul-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/HmkiRT3.jpg

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[23-Jul-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of ironic that almost the exact same sort of shit is happening in both hong kong and poland simultaneously


[23-Jul-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
gangs going around beating people protesting shitty conditions being protected by the police


[23-Jul-19 06:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's almost as if a major world leader, of a country the world has previously looked up to, came out and said fascism is ok


[23-Jul-19 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/s99OMCa

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This is why we need Medicare For All. This a crime against humanity and no civilized country should fuck over their citizens like this.
https://i.imgur.com/oIgC0bHh.jpg


[23-Jul-19 12:35 PM] byte[]#2610
He regrets doing CPR


[23-Jul-19 12:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, it is the bills were not paid by insurance?


[23-Jul-19 12:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or they rejected on the grounds of "unqualified" for CPR?


[23-Jul-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
>Agree. I love my country but, our healthcare system is a disaster.


[23-Jul-19 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
why do people say this


[23-Jul-19 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
it's like admitting that they love a pile of shit


[23-Jul-19 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is not at all loveable


[23-Jul-19 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a harsh cruel place full of corporate dictators and broken infrustructure


[23-Jul-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our presidents idea of fixing another country is fucking mass goddamned genocide, this shit is terrifying that that is his solution to fixing another country...


[23-Jul-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-trump/afghanistan-seeks-clarification-on-trump-talk-of-wiping-it-out-idUSKCN1UI0Q9

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Afghanistan seeks clarification on Trump talk of wiping it out
Afghanistan called on Tuesday for an explanation of comments by U.S. President D...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190723&t=2&i=1410998180&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6M0ED


[23-Jul-19 01:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like Russia.
Problem?  Not our fault,  it's <enter contry name you are competing with> fault.


[23-Jul-19 01:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1153622243190235139

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BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking)
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1153622243190235139
Boris Johnson elected new Conservative leader in ballot of party members and will become UK PM on Wednesday https://t.co/608LPbJI5r
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[23-Jul-19 01:53 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon


[23-Jul-19 01:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The more I read here, more I am convinced that USA is almost same as Russia.


[23-Jul-19 01:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But with better PR.


[23-Jul-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're pretty much becomiong russia yes


[23-Jul-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin helped get trump elected for exactly that purpose


[23-Jul-19 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rmoe liek russia it is the easier it is for russia to just waltz in and declare ownership with no backlash


[23-Jul-19 01:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Have you guys started "local only production" and "we get out own internet" yet?


[23-Jul-19 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not yet but there have been efforts


[23-Jul-19 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with those efforts is that america is a supply side econpomy so we dont produce jack shit quite frankly


[23-Jul-19 01:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Same there.


[23-Jul-19 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so all that effort is doing is putting people out of jobs and busisinesses


[23-Jul-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
harley davidson had to open a european branch to keep operating and then trump accused them of beign traitors to america


[23-Jul-19 02:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about moving electronics production from china to us?


[23-Jul-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tech companies woudl never go for this


[23-Jul-19 02:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This one haven't started yet.


[23-Jul-19 02:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I heard somewhere, it is quite difficult to set up electronics production in US.


[23-Jul-19 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has more favorable labor laws for american citizens than china does for it;s own citizens. It's far cheaper and cost effective to abuse chinese labor to make your product than to attempt the same and get sued out the ass in the US


[23-Jul-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted, american labor laws are still kind of abusive but less so thAN china...


[23-Jul-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the closest we have to china's labor system is our privatized prison system


[23-Jul-19 02:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And heard about another one, but not sure.. "... production is expensive because air purification takes more effort..."


[23-Jul-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not the reason


[23-Jul-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
The US doesn't have any vertically integrated manufacturing infrastructure


[23-Jul-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It'd take decades to get it going again


[23-Jul-19 02:11 PM] byte[]#2610
China has a lot of it


[23-Jul-19 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
So Bojo is the PM now


[23-Jul-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-leader/britains-new-leader-johnson-vows-to-get-brexit-done-idUSKCN1UH2JQ

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Britain's new leader Johnson vows to get Brexit done
Boris Johnson, the ebullient Brexiteer who has promised to lead Britain out of t...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190723&t=2&i=1411056852&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6M0QX


[23-Jul-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good british trump is the new pm


[23-Jul-19 03:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/FwiORpBj8P8

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Cassetteboy - Boris Johnson's Leadership Bid
Totally forgot to upload this one to YouTube when we did the other places. Seems a bit late now. Oh well.
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[23-Jul-19 04:06 PM] Crow#5457
apparently even among conservative voters, he barely won


[23-Jul-19 04:07 PM] Crow#5457
in a general election he would've been destroyed


[23-Jul-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9f98d78a3c214c22bf0100ef9c153917

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USDA rule would cut food stamp benefits for 3.1 million
WASHINGTON (AP) — About 3.1 million people would lose food stamp benefits under the Trump administration's proposal to tighten automatic eligibility requirements for the food stamp...
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[23-Jul-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Repeat after me


[23-Jul-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck

Poor

People

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[23-Jul-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[23-Jul-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/23/us/politics/mark-esper-secretary-defense.html

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By HELENE COOPER
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/23/us/politics/mark-esper-secretary-defense.html
Mark Esper Confirmed as Trump’s Defense Secretary
Mr. Esper, a former soldier and lobbyist for Raytheon, takes over at the Pentagon after its longest period without a permanent leader.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/07/23/us/politics/23dc-military/23dc-military-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
British people hear the announcement of their new PM (2019, colourised) https://i.redd.it/jnma6gs0o1c31.gif

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[23-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
it really feels like this decade was socially engineered


[23-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
like some 5-D being set this whole thing up


[23-Jul-19 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't worry, things can still get worse


[23-Jul-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have the afghan genocide to look forward to


[23-Jul-19 08:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some brittish ship is going to sink an Iranian boat before the year is over


[23-Jul-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the iranian genocide once tucker carlson dies by russian poisoning


[23-Jul-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now Russia has found another country to play air-space chicken with


[23-Jul-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and borris johnson is the british priminister, so not only does he have brexit to fuck up, he can go ahead and probably fuck up even more things for britain


[23-Jul-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
borris johnson looks like the tragedy mask to Trump's comedy mask

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[23-Jul-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like trump alswys has a smug self happy face to him and borris always looks kinda liek a dumpy depressed version of trump


[23-Jul-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/97490aedaeea4ab49d7a52c3cc4b246c

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The Latest: Netanyahu welcomes Johnson as Britain's next PM
LONDON (AP) — The Latest on Boris Johnson's victory in the race to become Britain's next prime minister (all times local): 5:25 p.m. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he...
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[23-Jul-19 08:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-23/trump-sues-to-block-house-from-getting-state-tax-returns-jyg5bql0


[23-Jul-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
didn't he already try this and fail miserably


[23-Jul-19 08:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[23-Jul-19 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has tried this several tiems now


[23-Jul-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think everytime his tax returns get brought up, he launches a new lawsuit


[23-Jul-19 08:58 PM] illumnious#7938
*times*


[23-Jul-19 08:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
BoJo the clown got 9000+ votes against almost 3000 votes. Not what anyone would call close. Tories are idiots and their MPs are accurately representative of their party membership.


[23-Jul-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*magazine*


[23-Jul-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/321ab9d3e1ae4a5e982522dd6faea56b

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Trump threatens Guatemala after its court blocks asylum deal
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday threatened retribution against Guatemala over immigration after the country's high court blocked its government from signing an asylum deal with...
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[23-Jul-19 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/23/william-barr-consumers-security-risks-backdoors/

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Barr says Americans should accept security risks of encryption bac...
U.S. attorney general William Barr has said consumers should accept the risks that encryption backdoors pose to their personal cybersecurity to ensure law enforcement can access encrypted communications. In a speech Tuesday in New York, the U.S. attorney general parroted much...
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[23-Jul-19 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What've you got to hide? :^)


[23-Jul-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/jaredomaramp/status/1153742493034438656

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Comms Team signing off... forever: Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with. You do not care about your constituents. You do not care about anyone but yourself.
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[23-Jul-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
who


[23-Jul-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
UK MP apparently


[23-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454396-gingrich-trump-more-interested-in-defining-democrats-as-radical-than

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Gingrich: Trump more interested in defining Democrats as radical t...
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) says in a new interview that President Trump has moved away from any focus on legislation towards battling the Democrats ahead of his reelection fight in 2020.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_072219upi_lead.jpg


[23-Jul-19 11:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I read more on the MP twitstorm


[23-Jul-19 11:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems that the resigning dude is bashing the MP for being an alcoholic


[24-Jul-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is mroe focused on fighting people, threatening other countries, throwing fire at democrats, and making himself look good, rather than doing his job?


[24-Jul-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh my god


[24-Jul-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is m.night shyamalan levels of twist


[24-Jul-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/089bc334c4ba41198dd68da0f7c72371 he;s holding teen rallies now

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes falsehoods to a youth audience
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday told young people a number of falsehoods he's been relating to adults for months and took a misleading swipe at the female Democratic lawmakers...
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[24-Jul-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I uh, I think it might be a tiny bit of a stretch to equate TPUSA to the hitler youth, but notwithstanding it's bad in its own right without needing to invoke godwin's law at all


[24-Jul-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
toilet paper usa


[24-Jul-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Jul-19 02:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Republican Christians don't actually read the bible. Except the parts about "the gays" and "wamen"


[24-Jul-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1153705450346635265?s=19

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TRUMP: "Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president."

(Article 2 does not in fact empower the president to do whatever they want.) https://t.co/qIFP1AbHw6
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[24-Jul-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i insert my headcanon into the constitution thne i cna do whatever i please!"


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
sure


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
article 2 doesn't say he can do X


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
but who's gonna stop him


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
you cannot forget that


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the president routinely does completely illegal shit and gets away with it


[24-Jul-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
because who's going to stop him


[24-Jul-19 03:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Stopping him is complicated


[24-Jul-19 03:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And that sucks


[24-Jul-19 03:25 AM] Raptorshy#6268
In other news, house is in support of ||re-re-re-re-||reversing the trans military ban https://www.advocate.com/transgender/2019/7/11/house-votes-reverse-trans-military-ban

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House Votes to Reverse Trans Military Ban
The House passed an antidiscrimination amendment sponsored by Rep. Jackie Speier (pictured), but the measure will have a tough time getting through the Senate.
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[24-Jul-19 03:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
We'll see what happens though


[24-Jul-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the house


[24-Jul-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
bitch mitch is gonna strike it down


[24-Jul-19 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We really need to 1. get rid of the turtle and 2. Make it so that anything that passes the house must come to a vote in the senate


[24-Jul-19 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, is there really any good reason why that isn't the case


[24-Jul-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
and vice versa


[24-Jul-19 03:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah I know, it's nice to know that there's still people fighting back for it though


[24-Jul-19 03:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This mess really fucked up my long-term plans


[24-Jul-19 03:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Not that it matters anymore in my case now that I definitely have a disqualifying condition...


[24-Jul-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/british-lose-right-to-claim-that-americans-are-dumber

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British Lose Right to Claim That Americans Are Dumber
Across the United Kingdom on Friday, Britons mourned their long-cherished right to claim that Americans were significantly dumber than they are.
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[24-Jul-19 06:01 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[24-Jul-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://media.giphy.com/media/1QjzdN6Q3HTrwqmKGH/giphy.gif

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[24-Jul-19 12:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ASankin/status/1153864141225938944

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If anyone is curious about how long it takes the Quillette profile of Boris Johnson to praise the shape of his skull, the answer is two paragraphs
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[24-Jul-19 12:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
the heck


[24-Jul-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/xGtRLFb.jpg

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[24-Jul-19 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Elected judges, it's a great system!


[24-Jul-19 12:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I bet the judge from the first ran on a "Hard on crime" campaign


[24-Jul-19 12:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, is the Mueller testimony today?


[24-Jul-19 12:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait for nothing to happen


[24-Jul-19 12:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty exciting!


[24-Jul-19 02:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing is my favorite


[24-Jul-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/vyvWaf7.jpg
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[24-Jul-19 02:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who are LSU?


[24-Jul-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
louisiana state university


[24-Jul-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
American higher education is a joke


[24-Jul-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a revolting business just like health


[24-Jul-19 02:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sports ball is more importanter. 💰


[24-Jul-19 02:11 PM] byte[]#2610
american sportsball education


[24-Jul-19 02:11 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck books, we have handeggs


[24-Jul-19 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from experience, useless as fuck is an accurate description of college


[24-Jul-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college doesn;t even have sportsball, we have horse gallop


[24-Jul-19 02:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
My college just has sports to keep the people who do sports amused and everyone else excercised and maybe they go into a four year college on an actual sports deal


[24-Jul-19 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine is a community college parading itself using trade school courses that arent properly staffed, or equiped, or scheduled


[24-Jul-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or budgeted


[24-Jul-19 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who for some reason decided the best counciller to provide me with was my hvac teacher, who can't answer any of my questions because it isn;t his job to know this shit...


[24-Jul-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
last semester was a disaster in funding and grades because i didnt have the information or warnings i needed upon registering


[24-Jul-19 02:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Anyone can explain, why sport is higher on list in university, than actual studies?


[24-Jul-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money mostly


[24-Jul-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
schools get tons of funding for raising future athletic stars


[24-Jul-19 02:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
From selling the players?


[24-Jul-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[24-Jul-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are way too much liek rome but exageratedly bigger...


[24-Jul-19 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However, I've been to university that gives a zilch about sports and heavily invested in research studies. They take this shit seriously. Too seriously. Even when just writing an assignment. No plagiarism,  your references must be in APA format and indented correctly.


[24-Jul-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was this in america?


[24-Jul-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some universities are really good about teahcing and research. The problem is those have been outnumbered by scam colleges who operate on sportsball and understaffing


[24-Jul-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and rich kid magnets who just pass their students through if daddy pays enough


[24-Jul-19 02:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All this shit but reee student athletes can't make money


[24-Jul-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of universities also tend to scam student athletes with bogus sign on claims to pad their teams


[24-Jul-19 02:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is Australian university.  Not surprising that the university is top 10 in world on research output.


[24-Jul-19 02:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Sean_McDowell/status/1153764522403872769

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[24-Jul-19 02:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Forcing your kid to binge on prager to own the libs and get awarded a basic necessity


[24-Jul-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[24-Jul-19 02:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Training a good drone.


[24-Jul-19 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
too bad she didn't learn about prager's CBT fetish


[24-Jul-19 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
or how he likes to piss and shit all over the place


[24-Jul-19 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Today class i;m going to teach you how to pragerform your shit into swastika prager stars to throw at the libturds*

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[24-Jul-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*First you must go outside and Prager Shapiro all over your neighbor;s lawn, then the real lesson can begin*


[24-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
By the way, who is Prager?


[24-Jul-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU

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PragerU, short for Prager University, is an American non-profit organization that creates videos on various political, economic and philosophical topics from a conservative or right-wing perspective. The videos are posted on YouTube and usually feature a speaker who lectures ...
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[24-Jul-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Prager

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Dennis Prager
Dennis Mark Prager () (born August 2, 1948) is an American conservative radio talk show host and writer. Born into an Orthodox Jewish family, his initial political work concerned Soviet Jews who were unable to emigrate. He gradually began offering more and broader commentary ...
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[24-Jul-19 03:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Murican conservative talking head


[24-Jul-19 03:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spouts the usual bullshit


[24-Jul-19 03:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller just said his report didn't exonerate Trump


[24-Jul-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"obama was a werewolf monkey man and none of you can prove otherwise"


[24-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump refused in person interview


[24-Jul-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not surprising


[24-Jul-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump only takes ego raising interviews, he has critic interviewers thrown to the wolves.


[24-Jul-19 03:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Already that isn't the four corners I believe


[24-Jul-19 03:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He also isn't going to talk about what the Republicans want to grill him on apparently


[24-Jul-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah Trump did tell McGahn to lie


[24-Jul-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
no, pragerU isn't the usual bullshit


[24-Jul-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
it's the usual bullshit on steroids


[24-Jul-19 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
basically espousing fascist ideas


[24-Jul-19 03:34 PM] Crow#5457
but dressed up in such a way that it's palatable to the less extreme conservatives and obfuscated to make leftists look hysterical when they call it on its fascist ideas


[24-Jul-19 03:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so does anyone have any dirt on the new British prime minister ?


[24-Jul-19 03:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Coke head, Destruction of property, calls Muslim women letterboxes, domestic abuse, lies constantly, bet David Cameron to stick his dick in a cooked pigs head at a school dinner, enabled a potential assault on a journalist, makes false accusations of other countries. This is just the stuff I can remember.


[24-Jul-19 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has a face that looks like he does meth instead of coke


[24-Jul-19 04:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump did try to remove Mueller twice


[24-Jul-19 04:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
McGahn refused


[24-Jul-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1b98bfdbea19426faf1be2006ac9334f

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https://apnews.com/1b98bfdbea19426faf1be2006ac9334f
The Latest: Trump sons go after Democrats on Mueller hearing
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on former special counsel Robert Mueller's congressional testimony on the Russia probe (all times local): 10:45 a.m. President Donald Trump's sons and...
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[24-Jul-19 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller said Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice after he leaves office


[24-Jul-19 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What more is needed?


[24-Jul-19 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
impeach _now_


[24-Jul-19 06:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/454519-mueller-agrees-lies-by-trump-officials-impeded-his-investigation

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Mueller agrees lies by Trump officials impeded his investigation
Former special counsel Robert Mueller told Congress Wednesday that he generally agreed that lies by Trump campaign officials and administration officials impeded his nearly two-year investigation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert_052919getty2_lead.jpg


[24-Jul-19 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/454528-mueller-confirms-president-asked-staff-to-falsify-records-related-to

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Mueller tells House panel Trump asked staff to falsify records
Special Counsel Robert Mueller confirmed in testimony before the House Judiciary Committee Wednesday that President Trump directed staffers to falsify records connected to Mueller’s investigation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/muellerrobert4_072419gn.jpg


[24-Jul-19 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh


[24-Jul-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
b r u h


[24-Jul-19 06:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[24-Jul-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice


[24-Jul-19 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Protip to Buck: don't ask a witness a question you don't already know the answer to


[24-Jul-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c875ed792c014db98c1169d0be888c2c

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Trump, allies engage in early crowing over Mueller testimony
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump and his allies did not wait for Robert Mueller to finish testifying Wednesday about his investigation into the sitting president to frame the moment as a...
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[24-Jul-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking is that actual lawyer advice


[24-Jul-19 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[24-Jul-19 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They teach you that as a law student, so it's not even lawyer advice


[24-Jul-19 07:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking don't ask question you already don't know?


[24-Jul-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[24-Jul-19 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Early CROWing over Mueller


[24-Jul-19 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Caw


[24-Jul-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
caw


[24-Jul-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1b98bfdbea19426faf1be2006ac9334f

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The Latest: Nunes calls Mueller hearing 'political theater'
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on former special counsel Robert Mueller's congressional testimony on the Russia probe (all times local): 1:20 p.m. The top Republican on the House...
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[24-Jul-19 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
:caw::caw::caw::caw::caw:
mueller


[24-Jul-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mooler


[24-Jul-19 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking so, the wording says that if you forgot the answer and then dont ask?


[24-Jul-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nunes butthurt his memo was fake


[24-Jul-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUI86P-wVX8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUI86P-wVX8
Lawmaker goes on angry tirade during Mueller questioning
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says President Donald Trump has pursued justice, not obstructed it, during his questioning of former special counsel Robert Mueller...
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[24-Jul-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some conspiracy, not enough


[24-Jul-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Not enough collusion to charge, but some, and obstruction that can't be acted upon because I'm president" doesn't have a ring to it


[24-Jul-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/80afb234a8d74460a5fc0d5bb7feafab

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Biden says he's not relying on Obama as 'crutch' in 2020 bid
DETROIT (AP) — Joe Biden rarely lets a public event pass without reminding voters of his work alongside President Barack Obama. But the former vice president insisted on Wednesday that he's not...
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[24-Jul-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes he is


[24-Jul-19 09:24 PM] Litrojia#0612
yeah he literally is


[24-Jul-19 09:24 PM] Litrojia#0612
He'd be nothing if he didn't have that going for him


[24-Jul-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his only healthcare "plan" is the one obama made, and all his plans revolve around obama era policies


[24-Jul-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes he is


[24-Jul-19 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trying to go back to the obama era after trump leaves would be a disaster for so many fucking reasons.


[24-Jul-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only original plan biden has that is possibly still obama's idea is trying to enact prison reform to focus mroe on rehabilitation


[24-Jul-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his defense against accusations of past racism is "Obama picked me to be his vice, that makes me not racist guys!"


[24-Jul-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
so apparently now the conservatives are spinning mueller's testimony as "because trump wasn't indicted, mueller made the whole thing up"


[24-Jul-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
even though they can't indict a sitting president


[24-Jul-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
well, not made it up, but that trump isn't guilty


[24-Jul-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
"because trump wasn't indicted, trump is not guilty"


[24-Jul-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[24-Jul-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they  make a rule that you can;t indict a sitting president and thne use it to feign innocence


[24-Jul-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mueller even said that if the rule wasnt in place, he would have acted in full with prosecutorial power


[24-Jul-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet they'll try to ignore the rule if a democrat get's into power


[24-Jul-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he walked that back


[24-Jul-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though did say they submitted falsified documents


[24-Jul-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that once he leaves office he could be charged


[24-Jul-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/454580-mueller-we-believe-some-trump-campaign-officials-deleted-communications

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Mueller: 'We believe' some Trump campaign officials deleted commun...
Robert Mueller on Wednesday confirmed that he believes his investigation into Russian election interference was hampered by members of the Trump campaign deleting communications.
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[24-Jul-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Emails


[24-Jul-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but his emails!


[24-Jul-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran/top-khamenei-aide-says-no-talks-with-u-s-under-any-circumstances-idUSKCN1UJ29Z

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Top Khamenei aide says no talks with U.S. under any circumstances
The top military adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei sa...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190724&t=2&i=1411527846&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6N1I5


[24-Jul-19 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uUGQOcu1A

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Burning King's Landing - "It's Only Terrorism If They Do It to Us"...
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[24-Jul-19 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
Not really waht is seams a t a first glance~


[24-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
zzzz


[24-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
where my impeachment at bros


[24-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
why Mueller no recommend


[24-Jul-19 11:28 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:sad:


[24-Jul-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he said he gave him false documents and that he could be charged if he left


[24-Jul-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There should be one


[24-Jul-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there should be impeachment but it;s not muellers job to reccomend that action so he refused to


[24-Jul-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely knew that if he reccomended such an action, it could be used to discredit the report as a means to an end politically rather than an investigation


[24-Jul-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[24-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems will talk about holding no one above the law and criticize partisanship but refuse to do what they should because they want to win next year.


[24-Jul-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
liberals in a nutshell


[24-Jul-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's why norway's having problems, their social democracy is being run by liberals, and it's why social democrats being voted back in


[24-Jul-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
granted, their liberals are actually left, unlike US liberals


[24-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
but they still like to half-ass the budget, so things are slowly falling apart


[24-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
and also unlike the US, norway voter participation is much higher because they're in a much better financial state on an individual level


[24-Jul-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
and there's a lot more avenues for voter participation in politics too


[24-Jul-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
so a lot more voters notice what's going on and vote out the incompetent


[25-Jul-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
I sent that article about the arctic literally being on fire to my mom, and she replied that global warming is a waste of money and method of control by the liberal leftist socialist communist globalist totalitarian regime who are the real fascists


[25-Jul-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
(all the buzzwords was hyperbole, but she implies it and uses all of them interchangeably)


[25-Jul-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Impeachment via Terror


[25-Jul-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vive


[25-Jul-19 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Obtain that Élan boys


[25-Jul-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Spain'll have another general election this year


[25-Jul-19 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[25-Jul-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/jul/23/tofurky-sues-over-state-s-labeling-law-/

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Tofurky sues over Arkansas' labeling law
A maker of "smoked ham style" tofu slices is challenging an Arkansas labeling law that would impose fines on meatless products with a reference to meat on the package label.
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[25-Jul-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/24/justice-william-barr-wilbur-ross-1432595

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DOJ won't charge William Barr, Wilbur Ross after contempt vote
Lawmakers never expected the Justice Department to prosecute its own leader.
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[25-Jul-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ghhhhhhhhhhhhh


[25-Jul-19 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the department of justice arent the ones who charge people on congressional contempt though, the congress has their own officers for this


[25-Jul-19 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all barr did was make an ass of himself and probably dig a bigger hole for both of them


[25-Jul-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
>Trump not knowing the law


[25-Jul-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Well there's a big surprise


[25-Jul-19 05:28 AM] Mikey#7286
I think I might die from that surprise


[25-Jul-19 01:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://news.sky.com/story/europe-weather-heatwave-may-cause-collapse-of-notre-dame-cathedrals-ceiling-11769907

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Europe weather: Heatwave may cause collapse of Notre Dame Cathedra...
European countries have been struggling with the effects of extreme heat after temperatures reached 40C (104F).
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[25-Jul-19 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-coal-blacklung/u-s-coal-miners-discouraged-by-black-lung-meeting-with-mcconnell-idUSKCN1UI18G

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U.S. coal miners discouraged by black lung meeting with McConnell
A group of coal miners afflicted with black lung disease met with Senate Majorit...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190724&t=2&i=1411319014&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6M0WB


[25-Jul-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/38cd5233db384285adb6a38bd3b58de0

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California signs deal with 4 automakers to raise gas mileage
DETROIT (AP) — Four major automakers have reached a secret deal with California to increase gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions standards, bypassing the Trump administration's plan to freeze...
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[25-Jul-19 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/603940339484590081/IMG_20190725_092147.jpg

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[25-Jul-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need a high IQ to understand them?


[25-Jul-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fans of them swarm mcdonalds for the special sauce and then start a riot?


[25-Jul-19 04:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they both kills cockroaches and a rats in the sewers?


[25-Jul-19 04:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Throughout Wednesday’s congressional hearings with former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, I was reminded of the opening scene of the iconic “Pickle Rick” episode of the irreverent Adult Swim show, “Rick and Morty.”

“I turned myself into a pickle, Morty,” says Rick, formerly a genius mad scientist, now little more than a sentient gherkin, to his grandson.

“And?” Morty replies.

“And? What more do you want tacked on to this?”

On Wednesday, Mueller’s answers could be summed up: “I made a report. What more do you want tacked on to this?”


[25-Jul-19 04:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok thats just retarded


[25-Jul-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's underwhelming


[25-Jul-19 04:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[25-Jul-19 05:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://lenins-and-things.tumblr.com/post/186528616393/protect-people-from-saw-russian-far-right

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Lenins and Things
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[25-Jul-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
```TW: extreme homophobia and transphobia, death threats, violence threats, murder

As most of you know, Russia is very homophobic. It is worse than you thought. There is organisation called ‘Saw’ inspired by the torture-themed horror movie by the same name. They have been sending and posting threats to activists and other LGBT people for five years already, but now they have start to execute their threats.

Here’s an instagram post from one of the activists who now recieve threats, you can read it with insta’s online translation: https://www.instagram.com/p/B0RLd85gTLI```


[25-Jul-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
```It also contains pictures of Saw’s post from Juli 1st: that’s where they claim their season of hunt. They were saying that they will begin to kill people on July 20. An activist Yelena Grigoryeva, 41 from St. Petersburg was brutally murdered on night from July 20 to July 21.

Here are two screenshots from another activist, already with english translation, the first is his insta story where he says that he’s been recieving threats for a year already, and the second contains screenshots from a Saw’s letter to his friend, saying that because of them he was expelled from university and his brother betrayed him, and that now his friend, the activist who’s posted the story, will be killed before August if he doesn’t flee to Niderlands.: https://twitter.com/TonightPlease/status/1153831511780728832?s=19

In their post with list they also claim that in a few months they wil have government’s support. You can imagine how much I want to doubt that.```


[25-Jul-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141

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[25-Jul-19 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same here bud


[25-Jul-19 06:05 PM] Pretty#9306
Switch country


[25-Jul-19 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49099841

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Spanish PM Sánchez loses vote to form coalition
Socialist Pedro Sánchez says he is "sorry" a government deal could not be reached with Podemos.
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[25-Jul-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/qupP1m1

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Leagalize it
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[25-Jul-19 07:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@ononim idk that shit sounds like a hoax


[25-Jul-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/rCKLPMB

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Brutal...
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[25-Jul-19 08:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4039677
https://www.fontanka.ru/2019/07/22/143/
https://www.fontanka.ru/2019/07/24/018/
https://www.svoboda.org/a/30071714.html

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В Санкт-Петербурге возбудили уголов...
Подробнее на сайте
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"Система не готова защитить". Активи...
В Петербурге убита ЛГБТ-активистка Елена Григорьева. Незадолго до гибели она говорила знакомым о том, что ей угрожают, а также обращалась с сообщениям...
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[25-Jul-19 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What do the slavic runes say


[25-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/9DTP3sH

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Cartoon from the 70s. Still relevant...
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[25-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
from the 1970's


[25-Jul-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
this is how long the country has been going to shit for


[25-Jul-19 08:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Free energy doesn't make money. Why else would UK try and make people with solar panels pay the electricity companies for the energy they produce with their own solar panels?


[25-Jul-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
there's people who unironically argue that because the sun will eventually die, it isn't renewable energy


[25-Jul-19 08:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Never mind that humans are gonna die out long before then but :shrugpony:


[25-Jul-19 08:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No energy is renewable if you wanna argue like that lmao


[25-Jul-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna die?

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[25-Jul-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
:dab:

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[25-Jul-19 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Jul-19 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck
Poor
People

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[25-Jul-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really need a burning dollar emote


[25-Jul-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://theweek.com/speedreads/854873/pelosi-reportedly-softening-idea-impeachment-inquiry-after-mueller-hearings

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Pelosi is reportedly 'softening to the idea of an impeachment inqu...
Former Special Counsel Robert Mueller finally testified in public on Wednesday about his investigation into President Trump's campaign, Russian election meddling, and Trump's attempts to quash the Russia investigation. So what now?
In a closed-door House Democratic caucus mee...
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[25-Jul-19 09:59 PM] moonatik#3676
my god please dont go for impeachment it's such a terrible idea


[25-Jul-19 10:00 PM] moonatik#3676
i can't stand pelosi at all but not going for impeachment was the one smart thing she did


[25-Jul-19 10:00 PM] moonatik#3676
there's never going to be enough votes in the house for it and the senate has a republican majority


[25-Jul-19 10:01 PM] moonatik#3676
it'll inevitably fail and hand another win to trump, strengthening his position in 2020


[25-Jul-19 10:01 PM] moonatik#3676
if you want trump out of the white house then nominate a strong candidate and fight like hell in the election


[25-Jul-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might be exaggerated here


[25-Jul-19 10:06 PM] moonatik#3676
cries for impeachment is the lefty equivalent of "build the wall" imo


[25-Jul-19 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
he's committed impeachable offenses


[25-Jul-19 10:06 PM] moonatik#3676
it's obviously not going to manifest but it riles up the base so they keep on shouting it


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] moonatik#3676
on principle you could sure as hell make a point


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“The stronger our case is, the worse the Senate will look for just letting the president off the hook.”


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
so no


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
wtf is going on discord


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
ew, my messages didn't get through


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] moonatik#3676
same


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
discord's taking a shit now


[25-Jul-19 10:07 PM] moonatik#3676
OHGOITSSHAPPENINGAG


[25-Jul-19 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
i blame those pesky russians


[25-Jul-19 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
tf just happened


[25-Jul-19 10:08 PM] Mikey#7286
i didn't see anything


[25-Jul-19 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
huh


[25-Jul-19 10:08 PM] moonatik#3676
anyway


[25-Jul-19 10:09 PM] moonatik#3676
yeah on principle you could make a good case for impeachment but it's not practical and it's unlikely to happen


[25-Jul-19 10:09 PM] Mikey#7286
not with that thin skinned raisin at the head of the senate anyway


[25-Jul-19 10:09 PM] moonatik#3676
he's no doubt violated the emoluments clause


[25-Jul-19 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
but yeah, there's no comparison between impeaching trump and building the wall


[25-Jul-19 10:10 PM] moonatik#3676
i'll reiterate: it's obviously not going to manifest but it riles up the base so they keep on shouting it


[25-Jul-19 10:10 PM] Mikey#7286
mitch is basically discount Palpatine lmao

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[25-Jul-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that the wall can manifest more easily than trump can be impeached, even though impeaching trump would be the best thing for the country in the long run, while the wall is just a waste of resources that wouldn't even solve the problem it's supposed to fix


[25-Jul-19 10:12 PM] moonatik#3676
i'm more referring to how it functions in rhetoric than the actual merits of the action


[25-Jul-19 10:14 PM] moonatik#3676
building a border wall and impeaching an obviously corrupt president aren't comparable, but they have the common thread of politcians saying they're going to do one in order to rile up their base when it's not going to happen


[25-Jul-19 10:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im an atheist but could you imagine If we had another  flood ?


[25-Jul-19 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
"another"


[25-Jul-19 10:15 PM] Mikey#7286
wat


[25-Jul-19 10:15 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dunno why I typed another actually lol


[25-Jul-19 10:15 PM] moonatik#3676
we're going to have another flood if we don't get off of fossil fuels :megahyperjoy:


[25-Jul-19 10:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
murica needs Its oilll


[25-Jul-19 10:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but just imagine how fucked up everything would be


[25-Jul-19 10:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
we are so used to just modern day life


[25-Jul-19 10:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and to have something like that


[25-Jul-19 10:17 PM] moonatik#3676
a "city killer" asteroid just missed earth by 77,000km


[25-Jul-19 10:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh shit when was that ?


[25-Jul-19 10:18 PM] moonatik#3676
astronomers didn't see it coming


[25-Jul-19 10:18 PM] moonatik#3676
oh when was it TODAY


[25-Jul-19 10:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
holy fuck


[25-Jul-19 10:19 PM] moonatik#3676
the world could legit end at any moment


[25-Jul-19 10:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[25-Jul-19 10:19 PM] moonatik#3676
honestly our primary focus as a species should be getting people off of this rock to ensure the survival of the human race


[25-Jul-19 10:20 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I wonder If thats why we are doing space studies


[25-Jul-19 10:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I mean there Is that hole thing about mars


[25-Jul-19 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
wat


[25-Jul-19 10:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and "space army"


[25-Jul-19 10:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hm ?


[25-Jul-19 10:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its nice to think about people helping other people tho


[25-Jul-19 10:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
If only we can see It more often


[25-Jul-19 10:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
paying all these medical bills Is going to be fun lol


[25-Jul-19 10:31 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It was called "2019 OK"


[25-Jul-19 10:31 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ironic


[25-Jul-19 10:31 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
what Is It ?


[25-Jul-19 10:32 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The Near-Earth asteroid that buzzed by Earth very very recently


[25-Jul-19 10:33 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The one Moonatik was talking about


[25-Jul-19 10:35 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah !


[25-Jul-19 10:35 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
Politics are alot better when we just talk about killer rocks


[25-Jul-19 10:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeet


[25-Jul-19 10:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[25-Jul-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
killer rocks aren't political though


[25-Jul-19 10:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
killer rock runs for presidential election In 2020


[25-Jul-19 10:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
make america smashing again


[25-Jul-19 10:38 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
Well the president is more interested in a wall that can't stop a tank when earth is in danger of getting prehistoricly stoned by a space cave man


[25-Jul-19 10:38 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
That kinda political


[25-Jul-19 10:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I just dont see how trump can make mexico pay for it tbh


[25-Jul-19 10:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Isnt mexico In the debt the last time I checked ?


[25-Jul-19 10:39 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
I don't think he meant in pesos.


[25-Jul-19 10:40 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
Mexican money.


[25-Jul-19 10:40 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but still mexico Its gonna be a heck of a transaction


[25-Jul-19 10:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Just how do you even begin with something like that


[25-Jul-19 10:41 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
Ask China there wall has lasted a while


[25-Jul-19 10:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft


[25-Jul-19 10:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
XD


[25-Jul-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
their wall was built over the course of centuries and at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives


[25-Jul-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49116539

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Trump's doctored presidential seal leads to firing
Someone is out of a job after a fake seal appeared behind Mr Trump. Can you spot what's wrong?
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[25-Jul-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[25-Jul-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can see from the thumbnail it isn't right


[25-Jul-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
that looks like the imperium seal


[25-Jul-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/monster/images/2/29/Aquila.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170518061337

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[25-Jul-19 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>that looks like the imperial seal
HISTORY NOOBS GET OUT REEEEEEE


[25-Jul-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's mostly the russki seal with golf clubs


[25-Jul-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Jul-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the latin inscription is replaced with Spanish, saying "45 is a puppet"


[25-Jul-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clever, in a way


[25-Jul-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/07/seals.jpg

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[25-Jul-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, and the branch is a wad of cash


[25-Jul-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno what it's got in the mouthes, blood I guess


[25-Jul-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think those are tongues, but i also thought they were rifles at first with the black banner thing behind it


[25-Jul-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e8a907c09e24427c968f8e569ff3ddbc

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Election security divides Congress after Mueller's testimony
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former special counsel Robert Mueller's warning that Russian interference is still happening "as we sit" is putting pressure on Republican leaders in Congress to join Democrats...
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[25-Jul-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the turtles russian shell is cracking


[25-Jul-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with a hammer


[25-Jul-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully it breaks, like glass


[25-Jul-19 11:36 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
imagine if the USA


[25-Jul-19 11:36 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
failed to prevent Russian interference again


[25-Jul-19 11:37 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:twismug:


[25-Jul-19 11:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
@Crow the mexican wall will probably have lots of lives lost too


[25-Jul-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
building it? no


[25-Jul-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
we don't have that sort of slave labor anymore


[25-Jul-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
pfft


[25-Jul-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have prisons


[25-Jul-19 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
it's not the type of slave labor that kills hundreds of thousands of people over the course of centuries though


[25-Jul-19 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
I said "that sort of slave labor" not "slave labor" in general


[25-Jul-19 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just get some of those devious weedsmokers to build it


[25-Jul-19 11:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
weedsmokers would be too high to build lmao (but I know what your getting at)


[25-Jul-19 11:40 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but would weed smokers make the wall high er cuz they are high hmmm (bad joke)


[25-Jul-19 11:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
@Crow well lets hope that no lives will be lost during the building of the wall but who are we kidding there are people dying In Mexico already sadly


[25-Jul-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
they aren't dying from building a wall, they're dying because they aren't being allowed to receive the aid that they were once given after making an incredibly hard journey over a thousand miles


[25-Jul-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
if the US wasn't the most powerful country on the planet, they'd be being accused of all sorts of human rights violations over this shit


[25-Jul-19 11:45 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
could you imagine If the roles were switch us being poor and mexico being rich


[25-Jul-19 11:48 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
will ever get free healthcare


[25-Jul-19 11:48 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
*we


[25-Jul-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someday maybe


[25-Jul-19 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably after a war or other event that wipes out wall street or DC


[25-Jul-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or a pandemic that forces "free vaccines and healthcare for everyone" else 50%+ mortality and the idea just finally sticks


[26-Jul-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/25/danielle-stella-republican-ilhan-omar-charged-felony-qanon-trump?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Pro-Trump Republican aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar charged with felo...
Exclusive: Danielle Stella, reported to support baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, arrested twice this year over alleged shoplifting
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[26-Jul-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:blep:


[26-Jul-19 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`she shoplifted items worth more than $2,300 from a Target `


[26-Jul-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did she walk out with a fucking 56" TV


[26-Jul-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bad news is, she's still electable


[26-Jul-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/felons-in-office/

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Felons in Elected Office - FactCheck.org
Q: Can a convicted felon serve in elected office?
A: The Constitution allows a convicted felon to be a member of Congress, even if in prison. It’s up to the Senate or House to decide who may serve. As for state offices, different laws apply in different places.

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[26-Jul-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be


[26-Jul-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Else could be abused


[26-Jul-19 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Candidate being a convicted for some petty crime or shit that isn't a crime anymore


[26-Jul-19 12:27 AM] ononim#8141
^


[26-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if someone who runs for office wins after they've been convicted and sentenced to prison time


[26-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We've had presidential candidates run from prison too


[26-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy got votes too


[26-Jul-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course him being in prison was because he was a socialist during the first red scare


[26-Jul-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/MLoILAZ

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Scotland now
https://i.imgur.com/RmKm4JWh.jpg


[26-Jul-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
"Oh thank God. A thread with someone else's political problems. "


[26-Jul-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
United Kingdom of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland


[26-Jul-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Formerly Chuck's)


[26-Jul-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://derpibooru.org/dis/a-certain-site-is-shutting-down

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A certain site is shutting down. - General Discussion - Forums - D...
Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[26-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like ehentail got hit by the anti-loli legal ray


[26-Jul-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For some reason I always thought they were hosted somewhere in Asia


[26-Jul-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
um


[26-Jul-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
I'm looking around and not seeing any news about it being shut down


[26-Jul-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
nothing on google


[26-Jul-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
or duckduckgo


[26-Jul-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
so I think this guy's just trolling


[26-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As far as I can tell


[26-Jul-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
an ehentai mod posted that the site was kill in less than a day


[26-Jul-19 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that post has been deleted since


[26-Jul-19 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or the post never existed in the first place and the ID is faked to spread panic across random sites and boards


[26-Jul-19 02:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I have never seen any such thing on ehentai but I don't look for it or intend to check.


[26-Jul-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen loli on ehentai, and it was working earlier for me so i think it;s fine


[26-Jul-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/embattled-puerto-rico-gov-ricardo-rossell-resigns-amid-public-outcry-n1033241

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/embattled-puerto-rico-gov-ricardo-rossell-resigns-amid-public-outcry-n1033241
Embattled Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló resigns amid public o...
"Ricky, te botamos!" ("Ricky, we threw you out!") the jubilant crowd chanted after the governor's announcement.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_30/2946736/190725-ricardo-rossello-cs-950a_36a1eaad89b18874ed92c4f24c60ccbe.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Jul-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/qQT36ai.jpg

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[26-Jul-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
russian coat of arms


[26-Jul-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/25/8930616/senate-intelligence-report-russia-50-states

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https://www.vox.com/2019/7/25/8930616/senate-intelligence-report-russia-50-states
New Senate Intelligence report shows "extensive" Russia 2016 elect...
It also notes that Russia may have infiltrated voting systems in all 50 states.
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[26-Jul-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/16-marines-arrested-human-smuggling-drug-charges-n1034661

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16 Marines arrested on human smuggling and drug charges
At least eight other Marines have also been questioned about their involvement in alleged drug offenses.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_30/2947206/190725-camp-pendleton-al-1356_d2fbbe1a2874941de0025b62ba5a62e7.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Jul-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
how long before trump pardons them all


[26-Jul-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nah


[26-Jul-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would do if they were murder, rape, torture, theft, etc. charges


[26-Jul-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But letting brown people into the country and drugs? Nah


[26-Jul-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-25/puerto-rico-governor-to-be-faces-probe-hours-after-anointment


[26-Jul-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
>Puerto Rico’s Next Governor Hasn’t Been Sworn In and She’s Already Under Investigation


[26-Jul-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
basically, she's being investigated for not investigating the corruption that ousted the previous governor


[26-Jul-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
even though there were plenty of reports


[26-Jul-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
>“What we’re investigating is her alleged denial or refusal to investigate these claims as secretary of justice,” Rosario said in an interview Thursday. She didn’t know how long the effort, first reported by El Nuevo Dia, might take.


[26-Jul-19 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/5qX9Gd6lgA4

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/5qX9Gd6lgA4
[YTP] Donald Quixote
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[26-Jul-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Hickenlooper/status/1154530463769419778?s=19

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John Hickenlooper (@Hickenlooper)
https://twitter.com/Hickenlooper/status/1154530463769419778?s=19
"BREAKING: Hickenlooper polling at 2%"

You did this. This campaign is gaining serious momentum and we're just getting started. #GiddyUp 

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[26-Jul-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:pudding:


[26-Jul-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he's got a hicken in his looper


[26-Jul-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
John Heckingpooper


[26-Jul-19 05:52 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
Whew for a sec I thought we had someone unqualified to run the country thanks for reassuring me agian ytp


[26-Jul-19 11:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49122557

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49122557
'Give ASAP Rocky his freedom,' Trump tells Sweden
The president says he is unhappy that Sweden's PM has not intervened in the rapper's assault case.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/0C6F/production/_108038130_055380242-2.jpg


[26-Jul-19 11:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Mr Trump said on Twitter that Sweden had "let our African American community down".`
wew


[26-Jul-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"See guys, i;m not racist! I care very much about this *reads smeared text on palm* 'AHAB Ricky' that none of you have probably heard of until now!"


[26-Jul-19 03:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[26-Jul-19 03:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
perfect


[26-Jul-19 04:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Sweden has let our African-American community down, and that is sad. Only I am allowed to do this."
- Donald Trump, 2019


[26-Jul-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theappeal.org/border-patrol-in-new-mexico-stood-by-as-right-wing-militia-terrorized-migrants/#.XTqQaJTtm1C.twitter

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Border Patrol in New Mexico Stood By As Right-Wing Militia Terrori...
Videos and audio posted by the group and its supporters on social media raise questions about the agency’s role.
https://theappeal.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Debbie-pic-e1556466637723.jpg


[26-Jul-19 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
House is trying to subpoena McGahn


[26-Jul-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/454635-gop-blocks-election-security-bills-after-mueller-testimony

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GOP blocks election security bills after Mueller testimony
Senate Republicans blocked two election security bills and a cybersecurity measure on Wednesday in the wake of former special counsel Robert Mueller warning about meddling attempts during his public testimony before congressional lawmake
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/warnermark_062719gn_lead.jpg


[26-Jul-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Will be funny when we get reports of China and Iran trying to help Biden.


[26-Jul-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what do you do when an entire party is compromised?


[26-Jul-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
it's not though, it's only the leaders who are compromised


[26-Jul-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the republican party, despite screaming otherwise, is the party of sheep


[26-Jul-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
they won't go against their leaders, no matter how uncomfortable it makes them


[26-Jul-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/ilhan-omar-america-column-nytimes/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/ilhan-omar-america-column-nytimes/index.html
Omar: America's 'basic promise is under threat. Our democratic ins...
Rep. Ilhan Omar, who has been engaged in a highly-personal feud with President Donald Trump, said in a new op-ed that the 2020 presidential election will be "a fight for the soul of our nation," arguing that Trump has "weaponized" the country's democratic institutions.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190715175127-03-congresswomen-presser-0715-omar-super-tease.jpg


[26-Jul-19 08:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1154817932540690432?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1154817932540690432?s=21
Great morning at the Pentagon yesterday. Congratulations to our new Defense Secretary, Mark @EsperDoD! https://t.co/zqtA4XytJA
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[26-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/fake-presidential-seal-made-former-republican-dislikes-trump-2019-7

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The creator of the fake presidential seal displayed behind Trump s...
Charles Leazott made a fake presidential seal to oppose Donald Trump. He said he was surprised and delighted to see it projected behind the president.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d3988fb100a24151f414e55-1536-768.jpg


[26-Jul-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
it apparently is very unlikely to have been mistakenly put up


[26-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
so whichever intern put it up did it to protest trump


[26-Jul-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
the fake seal is (was) supposedly pretty hard to find online


[26-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh


[26-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently we're one state away from passing the ERA if the time limit gets rescinded


[26-Jul-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which it might


[26-Jul-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-infantroopen-pentagon-speech-us-military-mark-esper-a9021726.html

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Trump appears to have invented a brand new word: 'Infantroopen'
President also refers to lawmakers as ‘lawmurkers’ during Pentagon speech
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[26-Jul-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
>Referring to Mr Esper’s distinguished record in the US armed forces, Mr Trump said he was awarded “the bronze star and the combat infantroopen badge for his service”.


[26-Jul-19 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
>Slurring his words slightly as he spoke at the welcome ceremony in Arlington, Virginia, the president also referred to lawmakers as “lawmurkers”.


[26-Jul-19 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/MlW7T0SUH0E

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[26-Jul-19 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Relevant


[26-Jul-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/what-happened-republican-outrage-russia-n1034931

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What happened to the Republican outrage on Russia?
First Read is your briefing from "Meet the Press" and the NBC Political Unit on the day's most important political stories and why they matter.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_30/2948266/190726-lindsey-graham-al-0820_abc34003aafcdc1c08bd46ab1b78e60f.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Jul-19 11:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/24/no-shower-23-days-us-citizen-held-deportation-shares-like-immigrant

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No shower for 23 days: U.S. citizen says conditions were so bad th...
Francisco Erwin Galicia, a Dallas-born U.S. citizen, spent 23 days in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection in conditions that made him...
https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1564006636-Immigration-Detained-US-Citizen.jpg?w=1200&h=630&format=jpg&crop=faces&fit=crop


[27-Jul-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/judge-dismisses-libel-suit-against-washington-post-brought-by-covington-catholic-high-school-student/2019/07/26/d02fd6ce-afd3-11e9-8e77-03b30bc29f64_story.html


[27-Jul-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
>A federal judge in Kentucky on Friday dismissed a $250 million libel suit against The Washington Post brought by a high school student who claimed that the organization’s coverage of his and his fellow students’ encounter with an American Indian activist at the Lincoln Memorial in January was false and defamatory.


[27-Jul-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-will-require-in-god-we-trust-signs-in-all-public-schools/

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South Dakota will require "In God We Trust" signs in all public sc...
When students return to public schools in the state this fall, they'll see a new message on display: "In God We Trust"
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[27-Jul-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is wrong with this country


[27-Jul-19 12:28 AM] Lilly#4737
Xdd


[27-Jul-19 12:28 AM] Lilly#4737
Stupid country


[27-Jul-19 12:35 AM] malbak#7656
but that motto is on your country’s money


[27-Jul-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay but did they really need to make it, like, taller than a human being


[27-Jul-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not even sure my school's sports mascot mural was this big


[27-Jul-19 12:40 AM] Lilly#4737
https://fox6now.com/2019/07/17/antonio-bratcher-charged-in-road-rage-shooting-of-3-year-old-brooklyn-harris/

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Suzanne Spencer
https://fox6now.com/2019/07/17/antonio-bratcher-charged-in-road-rage-shooting-of-3-year-old-brooklyn-harris/
‘She was the baby:’ Brooklyn Harris’ father speaks out as pr...
MILWAUKEE -- Charges were filed Wednesday, July 17 against Antonio Bratcher. 39, for his alleged involvement in the fatal shooting of 3-year-old Brooklyn Harris. On the same day charges were filed, we heard from Brooklyn's father for the first time about the loss of his young...
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[27-Jul-19 12:40 AM] Lilly#4737
Boom headshot


[27-Jul-19 12:42 AM] Lilly#4737
if a three-year-old girl had a gun, she would have definitely killed the shooter


[27-Jul-19 01:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/us/migrant-child-photo-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/us/migrant-child-photo-trnd/index.html
Guatemalan mother pleads with a Mexican soldier for mercy in new p...
Photos of a mother pleading with a member of the Mexican National Guard highlights the ongoing migrant crisis at the southern border. The photographer shares what he saw with CNN.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190725110126-01-mother-son-mexico-border-0722-super-tease.jpg


[27-Jul-19 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm gonna issue a controversial political statement.


[27-Jul-19 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think everyone should be forced to wear mullets as a mandatory haircut.


[27-Jul-19 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No other haircuts available.


[27-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does that mean the government will fund hair regrowth?


[27-Jul-19 01:42 AM] ononim#8141
Pretty fucked and highlights how fascism is not driven by any "essense"


[27-Jul-19 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon yes.


[27-Jul-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always amazing when you check a place like breitbart and people are actually calling FOX News leftist, full of commies, fake news, etc.


[27-Jul-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Breitbart / Trump's twitter


[27-Jul-19 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Jul-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-email-investigation-data-donation-ico-conservative-party-a9022211.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-email-investigation-data-donation-ico-conservative-party-a9022211.html
Investigation launched into unsolicited Boris Johnson emails
Complainants say they had not consented to receive messages from new prime minister and do not know how their details were obtained
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/07/25/01/boris-johnson.jpg


[27-Jul-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/news/judge-dismisses-covington-students-250-million-lawsuit-against-washington-post/

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Tamar Auber
https://www.mediaite.com/news/judge-dismisses-covington-students-250-million-lawsuit-against-washington-post/
Fed Judge Dismisses Covington Student's $250 Million Lawsuit
A federal judge has dismissed a $250 million libel lawsuit against the Washington Post filed by a Covington Catholic High School student. Nicholas Sandmann was part of a group of high schoolers who we
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/covington-e1548104322544-1200x627.jpg


[27-Jul-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Libel and slander lawsuits should be and are  borderline impossible to win for the plaintiff


[27-Jul-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
I linked that lol


[27-Jul-19 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454953-trump-calls-for-probe-of-obama-book-deal

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Trump calls for probe of Obama book deal
President Trump on Friday lashed out at Democrats over their ongoing investigations into his administration, suggesting there should instead be probes into former President Obama's book deal and other activities under his prede
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_getty_072619.jpg


[27-Jul-19 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FHvaw_G978

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Tim Pool
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Mueller Testimony A DISASTER For Democrats, "Trump Must Be Gloatin...
Mueller Testimony A DISASTER For Democrats, "Trump Must Be Gloating In Ecstasy." That last quote from Michael Moore. That's right, progressive activist and f...
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[27-Jul-19 05:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite the opposite actually


[27-Jul-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[27-Jul-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, not only did they confirm the obstruction angle, they got Mueller to state on record that Trump a) gave him written answers under oath, and b) lied in his answers


[27-Jul-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's perjury, my friend


[27-Jul-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, even if all you took from the entire testimony was the 5 minutes the house intelligence committe director questioned him, that right there was a better, more succinct summary of his report than even the report itself gave, to say nothing of Barr's characterization


[27-Jul-19 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/rc2FPHI this thread of tweets is also a good insight into other things we got out of it

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wE LeArNEd nOThiNg nEW!1
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[27-Jul-19 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we got a lot of shit out of that hearing, it was just sandwiched between long hours of snooze


[27-Jul-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wtf Mueller was a man in his 70s at 7 AM and not Robert De Niro?!


[27-Jul-19 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Without even clicking play, if you think Mueller looked bad because he kept going "ummmm" and refused to answer pretty much any questions asked of him that were outside the scope of his report (which was basically every question asked of him by a Republican) then you failed to anticipate what, exactly, you were going to get out of this hearing


[27-Jul-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of the Republicans challenged any real finding


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was all "YOU HIRED HILLARY LOVERS" and "WTF WHY ARENT YOU TALKING ABOUT THE STEELE DOSSIER"


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of what republicans did was ask unrelated questions and thne madeangry rants about trump defending himself against "legal bullies"


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And a lot of them asked about the Steele dossier - which really doesn't have much of anything to do with what's in his report


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Steele Dossier was confirmed at least in part btw


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they sure do love harping on that thar steel dossier


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pee part may not be true


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and btw, I did find out something particularly *fascinating* about that dossier when I decided to go looking for an answer myself


[27-Jul-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Others are.


[27-Jul-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/25/why-is-george-papadopoulos-missing-from-the-steele-dossier/

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Why is George Papadopoulos Missing From the Steele Dossier
The House Memo noted the FBI’s claimed use of George Papadopoulos to open the July 2016 Counterintelligence Investigation into Trump-Russia: The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Peter S...
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[27-Jul-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's subtle


[27-Jul-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But you can tell Pelosi slowly moved towards impeachment


[27-Jul-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's talking about it in "when" now


[27-Jul-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they really want McGahn


[27-Jul-19 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr the FBI tried to get a warrant to investigate the campaign back in the middle of the summer but because they didn't have much to go on other than Papadopolous bragging, it got turned down for having too broad of a scope, so they left it out when they went after Carter Page


[27-Jul-19 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This entire thing is stupid people playing stupid games but as a result it's all in the open now


[27-Jul-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yeah, I think Pelosi wasn't quite expecting to be singled out for being behind the boat on the impetus for impeachment at that press conference. I still think she's looking for something to pin on Trump other than obstruction, 'cause I think she thinks that if she pushes that angle then the senate who believes AG "the president cannot obstruct justice" Barr will never bring the hammer down and we'll have 4 more terms of Trump


[27-Jul-19 06:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
4 more years you mean


[27-Jul-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nope, I meant what I said


[27-Jul-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump has joked about 5 terms


[27-Jul-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"joked"


[27-Jul-19 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump wants a dictator style dynasty like the kims have


[27-Jul-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
kinda like he joked about "russia, if you're listening"


[27-Jul-19 06:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the president makes lots of offhand remarks


[27-Jul-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think he wants that so much as he wants to be a mafia don. It explains his foreign policy perfectly


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
All these "deals" he's making that look super one-sided in the other party's favor?


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well mafia don is a "family business" too so...


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he's trying to be the "king of debt"


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh whaddaya know that's exactly what he's called himself


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
his foreign policy style is reminiscent of the presidents of the late 19th and early 20th century one's.


[27-Jul-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's treating this like he can call in favors on Kim et al


[27-Jul-19 06:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which he cannot at all


[27-Jul-19 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
absolutely not


[27-Jul-19 06:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but he's not going to push for more than a second term and not just because of legal reasons.


[27-Jul-19 06:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's an idiot of a con artist who managed to con himself isntead of his targets


[27-Jul-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I think Pelosi said "we want something so good it makes the Senate look awful for not removing" or something


[27-Jul-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which I think could be McGahn


[27-Jul-19 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s possible


[27-Jul-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who said he wouldn't fire Mueller because he didn't want a Saturday Night Massacre


[27-Jul-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Moscow Mitch on election security


[27-Jul-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Biden or Harris win and there's evidence China or Iran helped do you think the GOP will have their own Mueller report


[27-Jul-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because China and Iran are doing the same shit Russia did/does


[27-Jul-19 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A decade from now a political controversy over foreign interference may seem quaint.


[27-Jul-19 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile Trump would probably push for more than 2 terms, or even just a second term if he thought his power trip as a "mafia don" was coming to an end


[27-Jul-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh any foreign interference into elections should be responded to with force up to but not including war


[27-Jul-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A single intrusion into election systems is an act of war itself


[27-Jul-19 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesn't just go quietly, or bow out with respect. He is a loud forceful brute with a rich kid disposition. He's willing to cheat if he has to, and would take the constitution and use it as toilet paper if it gave him the power he needed to pull off his desires.


[27-Jul-19 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which he has tried to several times through forced executive orders


[27-Jul-19 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I disagree. Trump is more interested in becoming a political kingmaker and celebrity after his second term is up. He's sacrificed a lot of personal power and money to become president and so he's more likely interested rebuilding his warchest again once he's out of office.


[27-Jul-19 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Bush and Obama did executive orders too


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not a fan of them


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes and they're all abuses of the branch


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
executive orders are in the constitution itself however it needs approval by a court to enact


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but it has precedent with past presidency.


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People want an imperial presidency


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For the last 70 years presidents have obliged


[27-Jul-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It needs neutering


[27-Jul-19 06:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the executive braNCH, the senate majority leader, and the secretaries of the governmental branches all need heavy neutering


[27-Jul-19 06:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate majority leader is practically the 2nd vice president now


[27-Jul-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or


[27-Jul-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just take their power and make it official


[27-Jul-19 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So we would basically have three VPs


[27-Jul-19 06:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, 4 more years of mitch


[27-Jul-19 06:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they need neutering because mitch si what happens when you give thme that kind of power


[27-Jul-19 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue with trump is his open willingness to say that he would glass countries to solve issues they have...


[27-Jul-19 06:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s one thing to think to yourself about blowing up afghanistan, it;s another thing entirely to declare it to the fucking world


[27-Jul-19 06:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
declarign that his solution for fixing afghanistan to be total annhilation has broken the trust of atleast 2 middle eastern countries and thne smashed those broken bits with a hammer. Iran refuses to make any diplomatic contact with the US, and Afghanistan now trusts al queda mroe than it will probably ever trust america again.


[27-Jul-19 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-boasts-afghanistan-would-be-easy-to-fix-i-just-dont-want-to-kill-10-million-people-190412501.html and here;s the context if you don;t beleive me

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Trump boasts Afghanistan would be easy to fix: 'I just don't want ...
The president said he could “win that war in a week.”
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[27-Jul-19 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-trump/afghanistan-seeks-clarification-on-trump-talk-of-wiping-it-out-idUSKCN1UI0Q9 and here;s follow up

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Kabul seeks clarification on Trump talk of wiping out Afghanistan
Afghanistan called on Tuesday for an explanation of comments by U.S. President D...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190723&t=2&i=1410998180&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF6M0ED


[27-Jul-19 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, like, immediately after Trump backed out of the Iran nuclear deal they sent out a message saying "Hey does any other country want to make a deal like that one was with us?"


[27-Jul-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is basically saying "hey world, who wants to be the new United States"


[27-Jul-19 06:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne trump tried to enforce the nuclear deal that he backed out of...


[27-Jul-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
....after they'd already gone past the limits set by it


[27-Jul-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Worse, he's admitted the reason he backed out of the deal is because of Obama


[27-Jul-19 06:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it had obama;s name on it and he wasnt willing to just let iran have it because of that...


[27-Jul-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[27-Jul-19 06:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s his name or nothing


[27-Jul-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is Trump's goal to try and erase Obama's legacy from history, more specifically


[27-Jul-19 06:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[27-Jul-19 06:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's also working off a "the south will rise again" style checklist of things to do by basically murdering all progress america has made since the 50's


[27-Jul-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
quite literally


[27-Jul-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the Heritage Foundation's 2016 presidential mandate


[27-Jul-19 06:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another reason he'd be full willing to attempt a coup to gain more terms is because once he elaves the hosue, he;s being charged with so much shit. The justice department is the only thing keeping him safe right now


[27-Jul-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's a grifter, plain and simple. But the justice department is caving now


[27-Jul-19 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454963-supreme-court-rejects-allows-trump-admins-request-to-use-military

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Supreme Court rules Trump can use military funds for border wall c...
The Supreme Court on Friday ruled that the Trump administration can start using military funds to construct a wall on the southern border, handing the president a major legal victory.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_072419upi_lead.jpg


[27-Jul-19 06:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the epa is going to need major rebuilding after he elaves


[27-Jul-19 06:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rebuilding that is going to be hampered by so much bullshit lobbying


[27-Jul-19 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's like, 30 departments that need to be rebuilt


[27-Jul-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
our foreign policy departments are *gutted*


[27-Jul-19 06:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is a danger to this country and the world


[27-Jul-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the entire Republican party's leadership is dangerous


[27-Jul-19 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
here's a list I found on /r/bestof the other day, hit "view entire discussion" https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ceg0t7/i_used_to_work_in_us_intelligence_advising/eu2gat3/

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r/politics - I used to work in US intelligence advising presidents...
14,235 votes and 761 comments so far on Reddit
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[27-Jul-19 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, this list isn't great if you're trying to avoid "fake news" sources like CNN, according to the most downvoted comment in the thread, but still


[27-Jul-19 02:03 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/High-court-allows-use-of-Pentagon-funds-for-border-wall-513269271.html

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Supreme Court: Trump can use Pentagon funds for border wall
The Supreme Court said Friday that it would lift a freeze on the money put in place by a lower court.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/wall+border.jpg


[27-Jul-19 02:04 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
dunno If anyone posted this but oof


[27-Jul-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wont even get started within trump's lifetime so it;s jsut a huge waste of money


[27-Jul-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will also have a rotating door of contracters because most of them will quit theminute Trump tries to backpedals on paying them for their contract work. I'd be surprised if any non trump loyalist contracters show up given Trump has a national reputation for not paying wokers he hires


[27-Jul-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the extensive environmental surveys that needs to be done in roder to ensure this wall doesnt fuck over the local ecosystems


[27-Jul-19 02:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I agree he said "mexico will pay " and mother fucking surpise surprise we end up paying for it in the end lol


[27-Jul-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s going to get a small section done and then use it as a campaign backdrop


[27-Jul-19 02:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah I  saw that the it was just like a bunch of post and chicken wire at the moment


[27-Jul-19 02:40 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
(excuse my southerness lol)


[27-Jul-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the only sort of fencing was put up in the obama and bush eras


[27-Jul-19 02:40 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah I remember that now !


[27-Jul-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the border is also extremely unmarked in some places, so people accidentally cross over all the time


[27-Jul-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a major problem with canada as well


[27-Jul-19 02:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah Its pretty bad , And I imagine that with canada


[27-Jul-19 02:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I bet Its just as easy to sneak Into canada as its easy to sneak with in usa


[27-Jul-19 02:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hell my fiance has a family member living in the usa illegally


[27-Jul-19 02:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hes been there for years


[27-Jul-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that and hikers accidentally walk into the usa on accident and then get picked up by border patrol and held indefinetly


[27-Jul-19 02:45 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh wow I did not know about that last part :c


[27-Jul-19 02:46 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but im in a pickle my self


[27-Jul-19 02:46 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
i have to pay all these damn hospital bills


[27-Jul-19 02:47 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
i just wish I had my health care act again


[27-Jul-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my state locked our healthcare behind an age wall


[27-Jul-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only the retired get basic healthxcare, everyone else has to pay the scammers for unreliable insurance!


[27-Jul-19 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in this case i;m uncovered and i dont have the money to pay an orginization to skip out on me when i need them most


[27-Jul-19 02:50 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh god that fucking sucks, and im the same I have a hear condition and seizures


[27-Jul-19 02:50 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
the seizures have been making my legs hurt so bad I cant even walk :I


[27-Jul-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know if i have anything, i cant afford to get myself checked for things


[27-Jul-19 02:52 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I can hardly afford It as well Its really bad that fucking people cant get well cuz of greed


[27-Jul-19 02:54 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its just one huge fucking mess lol


[27-Jul-19 02:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but hey all we have to do is make the best out of it


[27-Jul-19 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd feel better if i ate the rich but that's cannibalism which is illegal for now until republicans make it not illegal so they can eat babies to gain immortality


[27-Jul-19 03:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
If It makes ya feel any better Im gonna have to get a disability check from the gov 😉


[27-Jul-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/365907438ba345e3a47d924c9f20dfcb

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Judge could order Georgia to use paper ballots this fall
ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia allowed its election system to grow "way too old and archaic" and now has a deep hole to dig out of to ensure that the constitutional right to vote is protected, according...
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[27-Jul-19 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.plenglish.com/index.php?o=rn&id=44896&SEO=maduro-advocates-diversification-of-the-venezuelan-economy

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Maduro Advocates Diversification of the Venezuelan Economy
Caracas, Jul 26 (Prensa Latina) The president of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, advocated this Saturday to move forward in the diversification of the national economy, renew and deploy all its productive forces in pursuit of development and social welfare.
http://www.plenglish.com/images/2019/julio/27/Maduro.jpg


[27-Jul-19 07:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Brw0tZhOco

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[27-Jul-19 07:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not only was this sourced here last night from a more neutral source, we've already applauded it


[27-Jul-19 07:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well now have it in vid form i guess.


[27-Jul-19 07:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Twice, actually


[27-Jul-19 07:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
third times the charm i suppose


[27-Jul-19 08:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-protesters-defy-ban-on-opposition-rally-in-moscow/a-49768602

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Russia: Protesters defy ban on opposition rally in Moscow | DW | 2...
Thousands of demonstrators are expected to turn out in support of opposition candidates for Moscow's city council election. The rally follows the arrest of opposition leader Alexei Navalny on Wednesday.
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[27-Jul-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/5typ1x21gsc31.png

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[27-Jul-19 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
"When a Socialist calls politics, states, or politicians fascist, it's not because they share the same soul as an abstract evil. It's because they are, very concretely, fascist."


[27-Jul-19 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/FINAL%20PETITION.pdf


[27-Jul-19 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's time to read the 6(e) redactions and chew bubblegum, and the house is all out of bubblegum


[27-Jul-19 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's happening. Impeachment inquiry is underway.


[27-Jul-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did they get it or is this just their filing


[27-Jul-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh it's the filing


[27-Jul-19 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's just say that if this filing gets ignored then we've truly entered the clown world endgame


[27-Jul-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wasnt this filed 4 times now?


[27-Jul-19 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nope, this is different


[27-Jul-19 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing that was filed before was "hey let's vote to see if we should start impeaching," this is "okay let's see if there's something impeachable going on" and they don't need that other vote anymore


[27-Jul-19 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because it's coming straight from the house leadership


[27-Jul-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile someone said the threat against afghanistan was justified because we should be flaunting our nukes like russia does...


[27-Jul-19 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is a formal declaration, too, which means this isn't just an opinion piece like the other "strongly worded letters" they cite as a paper trail in this document, it's an actionable step towards impeachment


[27-Jul-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi is clearly trying to inch towards it


[27-Jul-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's treating it as inevitable


[27-Jul-19 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And because this is in the form of a court filing, they've **officially called for an impeachment inquiry** and there are no bones about that. She and Nadler have confirmed this to the press


[27-Jul-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where does it say that


[27-Jul-19 10:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That quote comes from what they said over the phone to reporters who asked for clarification on what this meant, sourced (to me) from the PBS news brief with Lisa Desjardins, though it does say this multiple times in the document if you know where to look


[27-Jul-19 10:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically, they're calling for the release of the grand jury redactions *on the grounds* that there's a requirement for this for impeachment inquiry, which this is


[27-Jul-19 10:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A quick summary of what's in this document is: An un-Barr-ified summary of the Mueller report's findings, a quick history of the House trying to ask nicely for the information they needed to draw a decision, the grounds on which they even have the power to call for impeachment in the first place, and what/why exactly they need unredacted, 'cause it isn't everything


[27-Jul-19 10:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you have been living under a rock re: Mueller, this document's a good place to start


[27-Jul-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f6de66f4f4894fa688ef5919c646cb29

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Trump proposal seeks to crack down on food stamp 'loophole'
Residents signing up for food stamps in Minnesota are provided a brochure about domestic violence, but it doesn't matter if they even read the pamphlet. The mere fact it was made available could...
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[27-Jul-19 10:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
p o o r    p e o p l e


[27-Jul-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
keming


[27-Jul-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony McGahn is more helpful to them


[27-Jul-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, McGahn is only helpful if they can get him and ask informed questions


[27-Jul-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're trying to


[27-Jul-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A lot of why he's so important is because he's related to so much redacted stuff


[27-Jul-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also do you think Mueller was talking about a hypothetical president when he said the president could be charged out of office


[27-Jul-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Trump


[27-Jul-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it is the latter given how he is


[27-Jul-19 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Without question, he was referring simply to the former


[27-Jul-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not sure


[27-Jul-19 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mueller took so many precautions, even correcting a statement based on its wording, to avoid saying anything that could imply outright he was charging Trump with anything


[27-Jul-19 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but he was more than willing to answer questions about the legal guidelines surrounding presidential criminal activity


[27-Jul-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
OLC guidelines fundamentally make no sense


[27-Jul-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, that opinion piece is likely gonna be the focus of a legal battle in the future


[27-Jul-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't elect a shithead if you're afraid of the president being in a DC jail


[27-Jul-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but as it stands, Mueller is by the book, and he *still* managed to get the job done


[27-Jul-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
hypothetical non-trump related situation: if the president were to be charged and go to jail, would he still run the office from jail?


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes technically


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the answer is yes


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is why they made that opinion


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But again


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't elect a shithead who gets sent to jail while in office.


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But we have a VP too


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the concern is unwarranted.


[27-Jul-19 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we've had multiple instances of people elected in the federal government serving from jail, just not...at the highest level


[27-Jul-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you actually think they'll get the grand jury material


[27-Jul-19 11:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That depends, do you still believe the rule of law is respected in the united states


[27-Jul-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DC circuit maybe


[27-Jul-19 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause what we're learning is that, apart from impeachment, the US constitution doesn't have much to handle the problem of people just acting in bad faith systematically throughout the government


[27-Jul-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems need to be aggressive and point out that for Trump this is "four more years, or five to twenty"


[27-Jul-19 11:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr's held in contempt, and that still hasn't prompted a resignation


[27-Jul-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Holder had that happen to him too


[27-Jul-19 11:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Turns out, you can apparently just choose to do whatever you want, so long as it's in defense of "the family"


[27-Jul-19 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
as paul ryan so eloquently described the GOP way back when


[27-Jul-19 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/paul-ryan-reacts-kevin-mccarthy-recording-238602

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Paul Ryan: 'I’ve never seen anything like' leaked McCarthy recording
Friday morning, Ryan told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt that the recording was “a cause of concern” for him and other Republicans.
http://v.politico.com/images/1155968404/201705/271/1155968404_5441196895001_5441179528001-vs.jpg?pubId=1155968404


[27-Jul-19 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
revisiting this article now is just sad


[28-Jul-19 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49125045

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Thousand arrests at Moscow election protest
Russia's capital sees one of the biggest crackdowns in years as police seek to break up a rally.
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[28-Jul-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Nadler is saying "look, whether we impeach or not, we need these materials anyways to know if we should, so they **must** be handed over"


[28-Jul-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pelosi's gambit could be in serious jeopardy from this, as it could lead to a turnover of materials fast enuff for an actual impeachment vote to come together.


[28-Jul-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're not going to take a separate vote on whether to open an investigation, they're simply doing it.


[28-Jul-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
direct quote from Lisa Desjardins, btw


[28-Jul-19 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if I had a more direct source for the quote I'd cite that


[28-Jul-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, the GOP's best play right now might *still* be to suddenly jump on board the impeachment train just so they can run it off the rails, which is what Pelosi is so worried about


[28-Jul-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if obstruction really are the weakest charges that can be brought against Trump atm, they should pull a Mitch, right? Unless impeachment really is the thing that is powerful enough to outplay the DOJ's hardball tactic with evidence?


[28-Jul-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi knows it will fail in the Senate


[28-Jul-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The point is to make the GOP look awful for not voting for removal


[28-Jul-19 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay, so...is there any scenario where it doesn't fail in the senate


[28-Jul-19 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
one that doesn't involve a meteor strike


[28-Jul-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch dying of cardiac arrest?


[28-Jul-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People like Murkowski et al urging their party to follow their lead?


[28-Jul-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But people like her and Collins are kinda fucked


[28-Jul-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Colorado will go full blue and AZ might too


[28-Jul-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Moderates all cleared out of the Senate by 2020


[28-Jul-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you promote yourself as "bipartisan" you're done.


[28-Jul-19 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ask Nelson and McCaskill


[28-Jul-19 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There is also the possibility of the NY state prosecutor taking a page from the GOP's book of audacity and just...charging the president with a crime, at the state level. It goes to the supreme court, OLC memo gets trashed.


[28-Jul-19 02:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
apparently, according to the reasoning of Neal Katyal, a NY indictment will state that charges would not interfere with the duties of the office, making the reasoning for the memo null and void. Forcing a prosecutor at the federal level to adhere to the policy can be challenged as unconstitutional.


[28-Jul-19 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gee if only we had some sort of person to take over if the office of the president were interfered with in some way.


[28-Jul-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some sort of...co, or back up president


[28-Jul-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But alas


[28-Jul-19 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
we have one


[28-Jul-19 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
but he's just as slimy as the rest of the admin


[28-Jul-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, if only the consitution said the runner up was VP


[28-Jul-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that the P had no legal immunity


[28-Jul-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what they were going for, but it just didn't work out and the whole system was corrupt by the time Jackson came into office.


[28-Jul-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Idealists should be in charge of overall direction, pragmatists should always be there to write very very specific rules.


[28-Jul-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause humans are naturally corrupt.


[28-Jul-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A stopped clock is apparently right once a century https://twitter.com/peta/status/1152301760758685696?s=21

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PETA (@peta)
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ATTENTION: @TwitchSupport,

Take a stand for cats & please remove Alinity from @Twitch immediately. She is using the platform to post animal abuse, which sends a dangerous message to anyone watching her videos. Cats are not props to abuse for more views 🐱
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[28-Jul-19 03:51 AM] Mikey#7286
wait


[28-Jul-19 03:51 AM] Mikey#7286
is she actually abusing irl cats???


[28-Jul-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
feeding 'em vodka on stream, bodily throwing them, yes


[28-Jul-19 03:53 AM] Mikey#7286
wtf


[28-Jul-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
other people tried this and got banned from twitch


[28-Jul-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
she's not because she's a tit streamer


[28-Jul-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
seriously her tits are just about out


[28-Jul-19 04:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Jul-19 04:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe I'm actually retweeting fucking PETA. I don't know what to feel.


[28-Jul-19 07:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if someone says something that's just, well, y'know, right, then who really cares

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[28-Jul-19 02:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ymo86pehjxc31.jpg

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[28-Jul-19 02:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Not sure if satire


[28-Jul-19 02:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
I saw that and am kinda treating it as such


[28-Jul-19 02:28 PM] Litrojia#0612
pretty dank tho, whether intentional or not


[28-Jul-19 02:30 PM] Mikey#7286
Hot


[28-Jul-19 02:41 PM] byte[]#2610
gamers rise up https://i.redd.it/el0fe4vflzc31.jpg

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[28-Jul-19 02:41 PM] Lucky424#1730
I... what?


[28-Jul-19 02:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good start, immediately goes to shit


[28-Jul-19 02:45 PM] Litrojia#0612
>Inceldom Discussion


[28-Jul-19 02:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, it's one of those incel forum sites


[28-Jul-19 02:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That everyone thought were just jokers memeing


[28-Jul-19 02:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Until woops nope, they're real


[28-Jul-19 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Just like 4chan


[28-Jul-19 02:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://crashington.tumblr.com/post/186602850682/the-youtubers-union-just-merged-with-ig-metall

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Pro bullshit. Anti logic,
https://crashington.tumblr.com/post/186602850682/the-youtubers-union-just-merged-with-ig-metall
non-state-actor:




 The YouTubers Union just merged with IG Metall, the largest independent trade union IN THE WORLD (2.3 MILLION members) under a joint venture. If successful, it will cause a domino effect across all tech companies, causing a mass of unionization against c...
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[28-Jul-19 02:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Slingshot channel!


[28-Jul-19 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna suck when YT closes his channel because the e-pinkertons find he used a copyrighted jingle from the 60s on 4 videos =/


[28-Jul-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d8ee1624aeab49d7b0fe6ccfb1e215d3

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Nearly 1,400 detained in Moscow protest; largest in decade
MOSCOW (AP) — Nearly 1,400 people were detained in a violent police crackdown on an opposition protest in Moscow, a Russian monitoring group said Sunday, adding that was the largest number of...
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[28-Jul-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MSDNCNews/status/1155291693110968320

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MSDNC (@MSDNCNews)
https://twitter.com/MSDNCNews/status/1155291693110968320
BREAKING: 

‘Biden has surged ahead and is now beating Bernie by double digits in the latest poll of New Hampshire nursing home residents on landline phones’

More details to come.
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[28-Jul-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Is this satire


[28-Jul-19 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes, it is


[28-Jul-19 04:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
now I kinda want to see an actual opinion poll on this, post-Mueller testimony


[28-Jul-19 04:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
as I recall, Warren made the most noise about it


[28-Jul-19 04:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder all polls are trash. We should have learned this post-Trump. They keep overlooking some major demographs.


[28-Jul-19 04:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Polls are trash but people believe them


[28-Jul-19 04:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
imo that creates a feedback loop


[28-Jul-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Polls should be conducted at most a couple days before the election


[28-Jul-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/07/26/smog-in-siberia/

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Smog in Siberia, Fires No One Puts Out
“Help! We’re suffocating.” A message from Achinsk in Krasnoyarsk Territory in Siberia. Courtesy of instagram.com/ksyushenka_shapotkina and Vedomosti Smog Has Engulfed Cities in th…
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[28-Jul-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
```Nearly 2,000,000 hectares of forest are burning in Siberia and the Russian Far East. Almost no attempt is made to extinguish them since most of the fires are burning in remote areas where the cost of fighting the fires exceeds the cost of the damage they can cause [sic].```


[28-Jul-19 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
Translated by the Russian Reader. For the full album of horrifying photos of smoke-engulfed cities in the Urals and Siberia, click this link.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/galleries/2019/07/24/807226-goroda-okutal-smog#/galleries/140737494524576/normal/12

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Российские города на Урале и в Сибир...
Почти два миллиона гектаров леса горят в Сибири и на Дальнем Востоке. Их почти не тушат, поскольку в основном леса горят в труднодоступных районах, гд...
https://cdn.vdmsti.ru/image/2019/5p/1aiomf/normal-1oae.jpg


[28-Jul-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/28/amazon-gold-miners-invade-indigenous-village-brazil-leader-killed?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Amazon gold miners invade indigenous village in Brazil after its l...
Brazil’s police have been urged to investigate a ‘very tense situation’ in Amapá state
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[28-Jul-19 05:36 PM] ononim#8141
```Dozens of gold miners have invaded a remote indigenous reserve in the Brazilian Amazon where a local leader was stabbed to death and have taken over a village after the community fled in fear, local politicians and indigenous leaders said. The authorities said police were on their way to investigate.

Illegal gold mining is at epidemic proportions in the Amazon and the heavily polluting activities of garimpeiros – as miners are called – devastate forests and poison rivers with mercury. About 50 garimpeiros were reported to have invaded the 600,000-hectare Waiãpi indigenous reserve in the state of Amapá on Saturday.

The men were spotted days after the murder of Emyra Waiãpi, a community leader, whose body was found near the village of Mariry early on Wednesday.

Indigenous people evacuated Mariry and fled to the bigger village of Aramirã – where shots were fired on Saturday. Indigenous leaders and local politicians have called for urgent police help, fearing a bloodbath.

“The garimpeiros invaded the indigenous village and are there until today. They are heavily armed, they have machine guns. That is why we asking for help from the federal police,” said Kureni Waiãpi, 26, a member of the tribe who lives in the nearest town of Pedra Branca do Amapari, two hours away and 189km from Amapá state capital Macapá. “If nothing is done they will start to fight.”```


[28-Jul-19 05:37 PM] ononim#8141
```Kureni Waiãpi said Brazil’s far-right president Jair Bolsonaro had encouraged invasions like this. “It is because he, the president, is threatening the indigenous peoples of Brazil,” he said.

Senator Rodrigues blamed Bolsonaro’s repeated promises to allow mining on protected indigenous reserves, where it is currently prohibited, for the first invasion of Waiãpi land in decades. In the 1970s, the tribe was almost wiped out by disease after their land was invaded by gold prospectors. In 2017, the then-president Michel Temer moved to open the vast Renca reserve the tribe’s land falls within to mining but backed off after an international outcry.

“The Jair Bolsonaro government is encouraging this conflict, encouraging garimpeiros to enter. Their hands are dirty,” Senator Rodrigues said.

Recently Bolsonaro compared indigenous people living traditional lives on their reserves to “prehistoric men”. On Saturday he once again talked up the mineral riches in the Raposa Serra do Sol and Yanomami reserves – currently inundated with thousands of garimpeiros.

“I’m looking for the ‘first world’ to explore these areas in partnership and add value. That’s the reason for my approximation with the United States. That’s why I want a person of trust in the embassy in the USA,” Bolsonaro said on Saturday, according to the O Globo newspaper. His plans to appoint his congressman son, Eduardo, as Brazil’s US ambassador have caused an outcry in Brazil.```


[28-Jul-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/you-cannot-have-a-sex-scandal-if-you-have-never-had-sex/

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Ace Watkins
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You Cannot Have a Sex Scandal If You Have Never Had Sex
I solemnly swear to you, the voting public, that I have never fucked anyone, including your mom. I’ll see you at the polls!
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[28-Jul-19 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49144327

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Jailed Russian opposition leader taken to hospital
Alexei Navalny is taken from jail to a hospital in Moscow with an acute allergic reaction.
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[28-Jul-19 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"""allergy"""


[28-Jul-19 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess technically he's allergic to poison


[28-Jul-19 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or fists


[28-Jul-19 07:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> i have never fucked anyone, including you mom
Not true gamer.


[28-Jul-19 07:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/26/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-kavanaugh-gorsuch/index.html

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg defends Kavanaugh, Gorsuch as 'very decent and...
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg came to the defense of her more conservative colleagues on the bench, Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.
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[28-Jul-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5a5KxzTCc

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The Citizen Brain
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[YTP] Brett Kavanaugh Likes Beer
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[28-Jul-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/z0wYJhn

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The Greenwood Massacre
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[28-Jul-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get people who think that history can't be repeated


[28-Jul-19 07:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[28-Jul-19 07:56 PM] ononim#8141
White Americans in early 20th century, when they didn't lynch a balck person in five minutes, colourized


[28-Jul-19 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.insider.com/anmarie-calgaro-transgender-daughter-case-supreme-court-appeal-2019-7
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/minnesota-transgender-teen-sued-her-own-mom-speaks-out-n712616

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A mom who sued her emancipated daughter for transitioning is tryin...
Minnesota mom Anmarie Calgaro filed a lawsuit in 2016 after her daughter emancipated herself and started transitioning.
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A transgender teen sued by her own mom speaks out
Anmarie Calgaro sued her 17-year-old transgender child for receiving medical care without parental consent. But the teen tells a very different story.
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[28-Jul-19 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
```A mother whose lawsuit against her transgender daughter for receiving education and medical care was previously dismissed with prejudice at the district court level and then unsuccessfully appealed has now filed a petition to the Supreme Court, demanding the overturn of Minnesota's emancipation laws. 

The teenage girl had fled her mother's custody due to physical and emotional abuse and managed to scrape together enough of a support network to continue attending school while obtaining medical care. Enraged by her child's success on her own, the mother found a conservative organization to back her and filed suit against the school district, the medical clinic, the legal aid clinic, and also all the individuals involved, demanding that her daughter be prohibited from receiving any education and any medical care on the grounds that her legal emancipation was invalid and the mother was exercising her parental right to refuse consent for her child to recieve any education and any medicine whatsoever (not just transgender-related medical care, to be clear).

The Court of Appeals affirmed that none of the parties involved could be individually sued because they were acting in a professional capacity, that most of the case was moot since the daughter was now 18 (and attending college, good on her!), and that everyone involved correctly followed Minnesota law regarding the emancipation of minors.```


[28-Jul-19 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
>and the mother was exercising her parental right to refuse consent for her child to recieve any education and any medicine whatsoever
phisically delet parents like this


[28-Jul-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
JustNoMIL material


[28-Jul-19 08:02 PM] ononim#8141
I too had an urge to link this to The Other Russian to mutually fume in rage at this


[28-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Where is he


[28-Jul-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Does he use discord


[28-Jul-19 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[28-Jul-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
But I don't think he will like it here


[28-Jul-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Jul-19 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man that just reminds me how any review of Not Tonight from the UK is absolutely seething


[28-Jul-19 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[28-Jul-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`In an alternative Britain where Brexit talks have collapsed, an extreme far-right government has taken power.`


[28-Jul-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So far not that alternatve...


[28-Jul-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's part of the reason it upsets them


[28-Jul-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
>WEZ GONNA BUILD A STOMPA AN MAKE DA UMIEZ PAY FOR IT


[28-Jul-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/5oju5f/wez_gonna_build_a_stompa_an_make_da_umiez_pay_for/>


[28-Jul-19 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
>The Trump movement bears a lot of similarities to a successful WAAGH. It was spontaneous, chaotic, by all accounts accounts shouldn't have succeeded but did, perhaps due to the simple belief that they would win. However Trump himself is clearly a servant of Slaanesh, I mean think about it, it would explain everything.


[28-Jul-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jul-19 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[29-Jul-19 01:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Is that streamer chick gonna get banned for what she did to her cats : /


[29-Jul-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
prolly not, since she has tits


[29-Jul-19 01:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
fucking hell


[29-Jul-19 01:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I have a weakspots for cats 💔


[29-Jul-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
and i'm not saying that in a provocative way, she lets her big boobs hang out for views like every other "gurl gamer" streamer


[29-Jul-19 01:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh I know I saw the videos 💔


[29-Jul-19 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah fuck her


[29-Jul-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
titty streamer


[29-Jul-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/JosijsP.jpg

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[29-Jul-19 01:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I feel so bad for cats everywhere the are getting abused/ die from it 💔


[29-Jul-19 01:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I just wanna save them all 💔


[29-Jul-19 01:38 AM] Mikey#7286
tbf, the worst she did was toss the cat over her back (cats are very agile and always land on their feet) so she's still an asshole but she could have done worse


[29-Jul-19 01:38 AM] Mikey#7286
a lot worse


[29-Jul-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she's a colombian who brags about marrying a canadian and divorcing him after getting citizenship and taking half of his shit


[29-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
basically, a massive fucking shitstain of a human being


[29-Jul-19 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
geez


[29-Jul-19 01:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I pick up my cats and put them to the side sometimes she didnt throw the cat hard enough but still


[29-Jul-19 01:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and I agree with @Mikey  everyone at sometime gives cats beer or throw them like that and yeah she could have done wayyyy worse


[29-Jul-19 01:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but it still dosent justify her actions


[29-Jul-19 01:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
she needs to learn


[29-Jul-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
throwing an animal over your shoulder like that can seriously harm them


[29-Jul-19 01:53 AM] Mikey#7286
True


[29-Jul-19 01:54 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah im glad the cat was okay , I had family members that let animals drink beer and shit too


[29-Jul-19 01:55 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I just pick mine up and move them


[29-Jul-19 01:55 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
not throw them like that poor cat


[29-Jul-19 01:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its not hard to treat a cat right


[29-Jul-19 01:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I wish they would do something tho let her learn a lesson


[29-Jul-19 01:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@Crow  my brother got drunk one time and hurt his cats arm


[29-Jul-19 02:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait nmv


[29-Jul-19 02:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he didnt get drunk he was trying to get the cat off the table


[29-Jul-19 02:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
cats are fragile


[29-Jul-19 02:08 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think she just doesnt know how to treat cats I think she loves them but just wasnt taught


[29-Jul-19 02:10 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-funny-animals-insomnia-cat-tired-crazy-cute-gif-11458685

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[29-Jul-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that cat looks like he is high as fuck


[29-Jul-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
there's a genetic mutation in cats that makes them derpy


[29-Jul-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
forget what it's called


[29-Jul-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it the one with the skull being too small for their brain?


[29-Jul-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or is that dogs?


[29-Jul-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6ad59c9104dc425bba166de4b9723612

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Trump says director of national intelligence is resigning
WASHINGTON (AP) — Dan Coats, director of national intelligence, will leave his job next month, President Trump announced Sunday, after a turbulent two years in which Coats and the president were...
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[29-Jul-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
I think trump is desperately trying to do anything in his power to stop that much wider investigation that we didn't know about until mueller talked about it


[29-Jul-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
but there's some legal thing preventing him from directly ending it


[29-Jul-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
that could likely be traced back to the aftermath of nixon


[29-Jul-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is a lot of nixon effecting this administration and investigations into it...


[29-Jul-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
because trump has basically made himself into stupid nixon


[29-Jul-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
by not knowing how the law works, he accidentally stumbled into all the shit put in place to prevent another nixon


[29-Jul-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
because that's what worked for him when he was running his businesses into the ground


[29-Jul-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well hopefully some of that shit holds up


[29-Jul-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I actually think there's a high chance that trump wins re-election just because of how the economy is doing


[29-Jul-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
it would take the economy crashing in the next 16 months to ensure he doesn't win re-election


[29-Jul-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely will but i meant the investigative bits and fail safes


[29-Jul-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
even if it happens in december 2020, if he won it wouldn't matter


[29-Jul-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
the failsafes aren't really working because it requires congress to act


[29-Jul-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's likely just the "you can't fire this guy" stuff that's preventing him from ending the investigation


[29-Jul-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right...


[29-Jul-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really need some less congress reliant fail safes


[29-Jul-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course that begs the question of how a fail safe liek that woudl even work


[29-Jul-19 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Stupid watergate


[29-Jul-19 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god we're going to need bigger failsafes to prevent another trump...


[29-Jul-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd say another trump would be fucking hard to come accross but he has children who i;m sure will run for office int he future...


[29-Jul-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
trump is a symptom of the corruption running through both parties


[29-Jul-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
specifically either trump jr, or jared kushner


[29-Jul-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
the corruption is currently being fought in the democratic party by the leftists, while the republican party has currently made corruption one of its cornerstones


[29-Jul-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racists enjoy corruption because it allows them to avoid the consequences of major firm legal foundations that were created against them.


[29-Jul-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also allows faster pivoting in general, if they need to change who they hate.


[29-Jul-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a cornerstone of fascism.


[29-Jul-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
the democratic party is changing slowly, but the republican party is going to violently implode once trump is out


[29-Jul-19 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully the democratic party picks up the pace a little


[29-Jul-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the part i hate ablout the 2 party system, if they werent forced to be the same party they might have splintered by now and created mroe options


[29-Jul-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
it won't be fixed until the old phogies like pelosi are out


[29-Jul-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
pelosi is only speaker of the house because she promised all of her potential competition more power or whatever


[29-Jul-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
no one really likes her, but she has so much political influence now that no one can really oust her


[29-Jul-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she bribed her way to power


[29-Jul-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope the next senatorial elections oust mcconnell


[29-Jul-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the very fucking least


[29-Jul-19 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[29-Jul-19 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good god, man


[29-Jul-19 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Over and over and over and fucking over


[29-Jul-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy am I glad I don't get what this controversy is here


[29-Jul-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
other than, y'know, how dare you eat food


[29-Jul-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Basically a transphobic take


[29-Jul-19 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right


[29-Jul-19 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was just hoping there wasn't something like another "putin called trans people transformers" meme I'd missed


[29-Jul-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how anglophone media is making a big deal about a murderer being blindfolded while in custody


[29-Jul-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And not that they're a murderer


[29-Jul-19 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[29-Jul-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Two rich white american kids murdered an italian policeman


[29-Jul-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
anglo media was completely silent about it


[29-Jul-19 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until a photo of the arrest showed the murderer in police custody wearing a blindfold


[29-Jul-19 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, I'm confused as to why the man is blindfolded


[29-Jul-19 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
But I don't think that's against any rules


[29-Jul-19 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
At least as far as I know


[29-Jul-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
usually, blindfolds on prisoners are used to disorient them and make escape harder


[29-Jul-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's unusual to see in most western countries though


[29-Jul-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's common in places like russia


[29-Jul-19 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't immediately think of a reason other than there being a identifying witness present they wanted him to not see


[29-Jul-19 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But who cares, little shit stabbed a guy 8 times because he got conned trying to buy drugs


[29-Jul-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the blindfold is the least of their worries


[29-Jul-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49147435

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US murder suspect's blindfolding probed in Italy
The photo of a blindfolded suspect was taken after his arrest over a police officer’s killing in Rome.
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[29-Jul-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
>Police commander Francesco Gargaro said the blindfolding of a suspect is "illegal", telling the Associated Press that the officer responsible did so by "mistake".


[29-Jul-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, "mistake"


[29-Jul-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
turns out you get treated like shit by police officers if you kill one


[29-Jul-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
who knew?


[29-Jul-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet it's the rich parents who are paying people to spin it this way


[29-Jul-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
going after the police like they're the criminals


[29-Jul-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
instead of, you know, their murderer of a son


[29-Jul-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/28/world/europe/iran-tanker-britain-nuclear.html

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Iran Links British Seizure of Oil Tanker to Ailing Nuclear Deal
Iran is trying to increase the pressure on European nations to make good on the promised financial benefits of the nuclear agreement.
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[29-Jul-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
>Iran for the first time tied the British seizure of an Iranian oil tanker to the ailing nuclear deal on Sunday, calling it illegal and a violation of the agreement.


[29-Jul-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
>British forces impounded the Iranian tanker in early July near Gibraltar, accusing it of violating European Union sanctions on Syria, an act Britain said had nothing to do with the nuclear deal.


[29-Jul-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/28/business/economy/economy-recession.html

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A Recession Is Coming (Eventually). Here’s Where You’ll See It...
Economists don’t know when the decade-long expansion, now the longest in American history, will end. But here are the indicators they will be watching to figure it out.
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[29-Jul-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/DqTP0or

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Looks like it's time for The United States to have to deal with retarded legislation that will be rife with abuse.
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[29-Jul-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
>Legislation is being pushed, that is pretty much article 13 for the US, Potentially even worse in fact. The Bill seeks to usher in an era of upto $30,000 per incident fines for the posting of things such as memes and images with upto $15,000 of the money to be funneled as damages to the plaintiff. This is literally madness! Can you imagine the abuse?


[29-Jul-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
>H.R. 2426 "The CASE Act of 2019" Seeks to create an extrajudicial civil tribunal in the copyright office that will have the ability to leverage fines of up to $30,000 per incident, with no need for proof of damages, intent, or profit from the work, and gives only 60 days to opt to go to a real court. Hope you are getting your mail regularly.....


[29-Jul-19 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
um


[29-Jul-19 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that sounds unconstitional as fuck


[29-Jul-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/4cSPMZC

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Putin's special forces beating up random people in the center of Moscow on 27 July 2019
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[29-Jul-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
>Putin's special forces beating up random people in the center of Moscow on 27 July 2019


[29-Jul-19 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna need a little more info on the CASE act thing 'cause I went to try and read the text of the bill itself, and my eyes glazed over. So I went to the imgur comments and found like 5 people posting this video on the subject https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMsR_BT4AxY&feature=youtu.be

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It's the End of Copyright as We Know It
The CASE Act, or Copyright Small Claims Act, has left the Senate Judiciary Committee and will likely be presented to the Senate for consideration. Let's revi...
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[29-Jul-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And he seems to be making a case that it might not actually be...bad?


[29-Jul-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am not informed enough to tell what's knee-jerk, what's a misunderstanding, what's true, and what's just speculation


[29-Jul-19 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main issue is it didnt go thorugh any reviews or revisions, it was passed in secret and wasnt discussed with anyone from the soudns of it


[29-Jul-19 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8520774/case-act-senate-judiciary-committee-approves-copyright-disputes

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Senate Judiciary Committee Passes CASE Act Legislation Streamlinin...
The Senate Judiciary Committee voted on Thursday to move the Copyright Alternative in Small-Claims Enforcement (CASE) Act out of committee, bringing the legislation aimed at streamlining copyright disputes one step closer to becoming law.
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[29-Jul-19 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Meredith Rose, policy Counsel at the public interest nonprofit Public Knowledge, which promotes an open internet, warned against how the CASE Act might execute the small claims court and how the bill was passed through the committee. She said in a statement, "It lacks meaningful opt-in consent for all parties, structural safeguards against abuse, and legal accountability through a right of appeal. The bill would allow an unappealable tribunal to assign damages of up to $30,000, or nearly half the income of the average American household. A tribunal with that kind of punitive power must be accountable. The system envisioned by the CASE Act is not.

“Moreover, we are deeply disturbed by the lack of process surrounding the consideration of this bill. The Senate Judiciary Committee passed the bill today without any hearings on its content, and without any opportunities for all stakeholders to voice their concerns. For any bill -- let alone one that could drive the average American household into bankruptcy -- this lack of transparency is inexcusable.”


[29-Jul-19 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, on one hand, it's got bipartisan sponsorship, some of which are names I trust to be acting in good faith. On the other, it's a new piece of copyright-related legislation and there will be trolls looking for loopholes. And yeah, looks like the implementation is way off-base. 30k is not small claims. That's...medium claims or something.


[29-Jul-19 10:43 AM] RYDE#8862
That case act... With that hefty amount of fine, I can't afford it if something happens. Not cool.


[29-Jul-19 12:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Multiple-people-injured-in-shooting-at-garlic-festival-in-California-513321631.html

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3 dead in shooting at California garlic festival; suspect killed b...
Police say the gunman cut through the fence in order to gain access to the festival and did not go through security.
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[29-Jul-19 12:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh look another sooting


[29-Jul-19 12:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
*shooting


[29-Jul-19 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49144327

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Russian opposition leader 'may have been poisoned'
Alexei Navalny has been taken from jail to hospital after suffering swelling and rashes.
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[29-Jul-19 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I, for one, am shocked at hearing about this development


[29-Jul-19 12:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Van Breen says he heard someone shout: "Why are you doing this? "and the reply: "because I'm really angry. "`


[29-Jul-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
the things that people fucking do


[29-Jul-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh


[29-Jul-19 02:00 PM] Lilly#4737
this is why democracy is not viable

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[29-Jul-19 02:01 PM] Lilly#4737
democracy warriors (brigade 2506) just surrended


[29-Jul-19 02:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You're using tf2 fonts?


[29-Jul-19 02:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Plotluck/status/1155615134376611841

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🦓 Plotluck 🔞 (@Plotluck)
https://twitter.com/Plotluck/status/1155615134376611841
*tips fedora down low, adjusts glasses* 

"heh i tried to be nice..."
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Twitter


[29-Jul-19 02:55 PM] Lilly#4737
yes


[29-Jul-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What retarded bollockery is this


[29-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some guy got banned because he was upset Bronycon doesn't let him call people slurs


[29-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So now he's trying to ruin them


[29-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh, a channer


[29-Jul-19 03:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly in Baltimore you can't discriminate based on creed or politics


[29-Jul-19 03:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So he just has to say hating LGBT is his creed/stance


[29-Jul-19 03:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And of course you've got PT in there, making everything worse


[29-Jul-19 03:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
edge


[29-Jul-19 03:08 PM] Lilly#4737
he doing nothing wrong


[29-Jul-19 03:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like damn just go to a fucking con and shut up


[29-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Lilly#4737
i think he did nothing wrong


[29-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?


[29-Jul-19 03:09 PM] Lilly#4737
he has the right to respond hatred


[29-Jul-19 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What


[29-Jul-19 03:11 PM] ononim#8141
"Hands Up! You have a right to a lawyer and to say the word 'hatred'!"


[29-Jul-19 03:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only hatred around there is them intentionally going to be annoying and offensive to people for no other reason than because he knows it hurts them and that amuses him


[29-Jul-19 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/63693b8bba1b416ca730685aa915761b

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https://apnews.com/63693b8bba1b416ca730685aa915761b
Pfizer to absorb Mylan, creating generic giant
NEW YORK (AP) — Pfizer is buying Mylan in an all-stock deal and combining the $10 billion generic pharmaceutical company with its own off-patent branded and generic business. The Pfizer...
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[29-Jul-19 03:13 PM] Lilly#4737
I suppose he's got a right for this


[29-Jul-19 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[29-Jul-19 03:14 PM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda) I read at first as "Milan" and was very confused


[29-Jul-19 03:14 PM] Lilly#4737
right to retaliation


[29-Jul-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you harass con goers you get banned form conventions


[29-Jul-19 03:15 PM] ononim#8141
Like how would it do that? Acquire the city of Milan? Whole distrcit/province?


[29-Jul-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he harassed con goers he got banned from conventions


[29-Jul-19 03:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's Italy, you can probably buy every elected official and effectively that's buying the city..


[29-Jul-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah generic drug prices may be about to sky rocket


[29-Jul-19 03:17 PM] Lilly#4737
I think he has the right to poison them with chlorine.


[29-Jul-19 03:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Enjoy the ban, fucknugget


[29-Jul-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49081449

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49081449
'Butcher of Beijing' Li Peng dies at 90
Li was best known for backing the use of force against protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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[29-Jul-19 03:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://prokopetz.tumblr.com/post/186611367177/rare-team-fortress-2-hats-are-a-de-facto

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David J Prokopetz
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David J Prokopetz
“Rare Team Fortress 2 hats are a de facto cryptocurrency whose mining algorithm consists of playing Team Fortress 2, therefore the Crate Depression is technically a cryptocurrency crash” wasn’t the...
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[29-Jul-19 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mark-field-investigation-tory-mp-minister-protest-greenpeace-mansion-house-a9025351.html

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Tory government drops investigation into MP who grabbed female pro...
Boris Johnson ‘considers this issue was a matter for the previous PM’, says No 10
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/06/21/21/mark-field-greenpeace-4.jpg


[29-Jul-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2019/07/26/sorry-childless-millennials-going-to-disney-world-is-weird/

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https://nypost.com/2019/07/26/sorry-childless-millennials-going-to-disney-world-is-weird/
Sorry, childless millennials going to Disney World is weird
When you wish upon a star … a crazed mom will say how things are! The Internet was set afire this week when an old Facebook post resurfaced on Twitter, showing a mother’s expletive-laced rant decla…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/millenials-disney-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[29-Jul-19 03:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even 9 AM, most Boomer thing I've seen all day


[29-Jul-19 03:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How dare these people not have had rich parents that could take days off work to tour them around one of the most hyped-up locations on earth that they can finally experience now that they have the financial resources to do so


[29-Jul-19 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Going to Disney World/Land with a kid is a waste, anyway


[29-Jul-19 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're unlikely to remember jack shit after a month


[29-Jul-19 03:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Depends on how it is presented.


[29-Jul-19 03:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/27/jeffrey-epstein-2008-documents-secret

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Epstein case: judge agrees to keep documents on 2008 plea deal secret
Court grants prosecutors’ request amid concern that releasing materials could hinder investigation of financier’s associates
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[29-Jul-19 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Read it more, he's upset that they didn't go see adult movies _he_ likes


[29-Jul-19 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one wants to go see a weird coming of age story about high school, yet every hack critic complains no one saw Booksmart because they were watching Marvel stuff


[29-Jul-19 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a food critic that gets mad a majority of people don't go out to dinner at places with white linen and fancy plating all the time but instead go to McDonald's


[29-Jul-19 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Review the fucking movie and shut up


[29-Jul-19 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
booksmart doesnt look like a very good movie from the trailers


[29-Jul-19 03:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was super pandery to critics from what I can tell.


[29-Jul-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trailers came off as pandering to the "hip young generational folk what do the vidjya games and such"


[29-Jul-19 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just a fucking coming of age story, seen this shit a million times


[29-Jul-19 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh but now it's with nerdy girls!


[29-Jul-19 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How creative!


[29-Jul-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy it;s the all female reboot of a diary of the wimpy kid


[29-Jul-19 03:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol basically


[29-Jul-19 03:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There are ripoffs of that series but for girls too


[29-Jul-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
coming of age high school stories arent really fun anymore


[29-Jul-19 03:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder what it must be like to work in a studio that constantly just makes ripoffs


[29-Jul-19 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a book series


[29-Jul-19 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the other movie he mentioned sounds okay but also similar to other movies but with a gimmick


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just those really bad 3D animated movies that tie in with whatever, but, like, every "big movie" always has a shoddy copy of it coming out at the same time


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wow it's an intergenerational/immigrant comedy


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How fucking creative


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess to trick grandmas buying stuff at the gas station


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boyhood is a coming of age movie that was alright at first and thne progressively lost it;s own plot half way through because it took years to film


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you gonna say, that second generation people have a hard time getting along with first


[29-Jul-19 03:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boyhood was ok


[29-Jul-19 03:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People meme about it too hard but it was decent


[29-Jul-19 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only coming of age story people should need is The Good Son


[29-Jul-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wasnt terrible and i appreciate the effort it took, but it could have been better if thye had developed that photography plot more


[29-Jul-19 03:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Guy says millennials need to grow up


[29-Jul-19 03:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Tells them to watch a movie that panders to people obsessed with high school years later


[29-Jul-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then there's disney channel high school movies


[29-Jul-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The real-life Disneyverse is terrifying


[29-Jul-19 03:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cory is best anime character


[29-Jul-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes me think of the stuff about kpop stars being factory made by committee


[29-Jul-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of the disney channel high schoolers are athletic prep clones


[29-Jul-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the zombie ones


[29-Jul-19 03:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All this reminds me of the reviewer that is so casually racist he can't review something from Japan or inspired by Japan without going "THE JAPANESE ARE DYING BECAUSE ANIME AND VIDEO GAMES IS MAKING THEM NOT HAVE SEX"


[29-Jul-19 03:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like he said this in a fucking Detective Pikachu review


[29-Jul-19 03:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Alita


[29-Jul-19 03:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We don't talk about Alita on this server


[29-Jul-19 03:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
O_O


[29-Jul-19 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually it;s their overbearingly abusive work ethic and societal pressure that;s killign their sex drive but yeah sure


[29-Jul-19 03:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Said that it was a "chicken and egg" thing


[29-Jul-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But he only ever says this about the Japanese


[29-Jul-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not say, Marvel fans


[29-Jul-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still want to see alita, i hear it;s really good


[29-Jul-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The reviewer was mad Alita wasn't full of enough sex


[29-Jul-19 03:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a movie that's blatantly made as a hook for a movie series


[29-Jul-19 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy is weird, the kind of person that describes things as "sexy" for no reason


[29-Jul-19 03:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a 2h introduction to the character and it ends just as "the plot" starts


[29-Jul-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s a manga adaptation that doesnt try to shove several volumes into a single movie?


[29-Jul-19 03:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It has that going for it, assuming it doesn't end up being just a single movie


[29-Jul-19 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently James Cameron is planning like 3-4 more movies for it


[29-Jul-19 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But this is the same James Cameron that's always trying to make 7 more Avatar movies


[29-Jul-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, disney greenlit all of them


[29-Jul-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
avatar is a disney franchise now so that's a thing


[29-Jul-19 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Disney will greenlight anything if it has enough special effects


[29-Jul-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent watched the first avatar movie but did it end in a sequel hook?


[29-Jul-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nope


[29-Jul-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good another terminator movie this fall


[29-Jul-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have gone off the political rails here


[29-Jul-19 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hollywood must be so happy for deepfakes and inserting "we can use your image for this character forever" clauses in actor contracts


[29-Jul-19 04:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does Hollywood uses taxpayer money?


[29-Jul-19 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are they rich? Then yes, they pay negative taxes


[29-Jul-19 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Taxation in america goes up the more money you have, then suddenly inverts after a point


[29-Jul-19 04:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In Russia it is worse - your taxes go towards crap movie production without any paybacks.


[29-Jul-19 04:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Avatar has no cultural staying power


[29-Jul-19 04:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Heheh...


[29-Jul-19 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The next ones will have child actors tho


[29-Jul-19 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be space alien Harry Potter


[29-Jul-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it had no cultural staying power, the disney logo adds cultural staying power


[29-Jul-19 04:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Cultural staying" is actually excuse for funding, without any cultural value, aka American pie family movie.


[29-Jul-19 04:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nice family values.


[29-Jul-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
germany used to have the movie tax refund thing, but they closed the loop hole which shut down uwe bolle's entire scheme


[29-Jul-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then that further died when no one woudl back an uwe bolle kick starter because he made too many shit movies to fund his real art movies that no one wanted to see because he made too many shit adaptation movies


[29-Jul-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he just posts negative reviews on imdb all day while posting poisitive reviews for his own movies


[29-Jul-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c49e1d090dda4a90a042b5ec458ade8a

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Johnson presses EU to give way amid no-deal Brexit warnings
LONDON (AP) — Prime Minister Boris Johnson pushed Britain closer to a no-deal exit from the European Union on Monday, insisting he will not hold Brexit talks with EU leaders unless the bloc lifts...
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[29-Jul-19 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455067-delaney-releases-plan-to-require-national-service

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Delaney releases plan to require national service
Every American over the age of 18 would be required to serve the country for at least one year under a plan proposed by presidential candidate former Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/johndelaney_080717getty.jpg


[29-Jul-19 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Every American over the age of 18 would be required to serve the country for at least one year under a plan proposed by presidential candidate former Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.). 

Delaney's 2020 campaign announced the Mandatory National Service plan Sunday. 

Other 2020 campaigns have announced national service plans, but Delaney appears to the be only Democrat proposing mandatory required service. 

Under the proposal, Americans would receive two or three years of free tuition at a public college or university in exchange for one or two years of paid public service. Salary would differ based on regional cost of living. 

To meet the service requirements, 18-year-old Americans could choose from one of four options: the military, a community service program, a new National Infrastructure Apprenticeship program or newly created Climate Corps.


[29-Jul-19 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It’s time to bring the country together, restore our sense of shared purpose and a common and inclusive national destiny,” Delaney said. “By mandating national service we build a future where young people begin their adult lives serving their country and working alongside people from different backgrounds."


[29-Jul-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this raises several questions of how upwards in age woudl this draft reinstatement reach?


[29-Jul-19 06:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are climate corps?


[29-Jul-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the gist of it is it would be a community service corps that aids locations in developing green energy type systems


[29-Jul-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The Climate Corps would station participants in rural and low-income areas to assist communities in projects to transition to environmentally friendly alternatives.


[29-Jul-19 06:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which of four is better?


[29-Jul-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know


[29-Jul-19 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though given the military deals in deadly violence, probably the other 3


[29-Jul-19 06:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To me, climate corps sound less boring.


[29-Jul-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could probably get behind climate corps


[29-Jul-19 06:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fresh air, not a dull work, handiness skill, see places.


[29-Jul-19 06:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Way better than clerk work type.


[29-Jul-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not be oblitrerated on a battlefeild


[29-Jul-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would maybe pay well enough


[29-Jul-19 06:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless it's work in slums, where police fears to step.


[29-Jul-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a good point


[29-Jul-19 06:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But the idea sounds fair to me.


[29-Jul-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other question is age range, would this only be 18 year olds or would this be upwards of like 30 as well


[29-Jul-19 06:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There should be limits on this.


[29-Jul-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by all accounts my accountibility to the current draft program ended when i was 26


[29-Jul-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it's a formality no one calls upon it now because volunteer forces are mroe effective in a country like ours at the moment


[29-Jul-19 06:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Entire thing sounds a bit like ussr conscription... you serve your country and country serves you (with free education, medicine..)


[29-Jul-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully if it came to that, they would uphold their end of the bargain and actually give good healthcare and other benefits


[29-Jul-19 06:50 PM] Crow#5457
that's not as bad as I originally thought it was, thought it was just talking about military service


[29-Jul-19 06:51 PM] Crow#5457
no matter what pretty lies the military tells you, the US military is just a meat grinder that treats you as less than human while expecting you to give it better than your best effort


[29-Jul-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i'd avoid the military at all cost


[29-Jul-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if you offered me soemthing liek the climate corps i would possibly get behind it


[29-Jul-19 06:52 PM] Crow#5457
the community service program sounds like the easiest choice at the expense of only getting the free tuition, the national infrastructure apprenticeship program and climate corps choices sound the best


[29-Jul-19 06:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I hope non-military won't be binged by rich/previliged kids.


[29-Jul-19 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
it's a plan thrown out by one of the irrelevant democratic candidates for president


[29-Jul-19 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
it's not going to go anywhere


[29-Jul-19 06:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Real shame


[29-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
the only real candidates atm are bernie, warren, biden, and harris, with honorable mentions to beto and buttigieg


[29-Jul-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's sad, the climate corps sounds like it would be a cool program in proposal


[29-Jul-19 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
no, the climate corps are a real thing


[29-Jul-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[29-Jul-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait that;s already happened?


[29-Jul-19 06:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But who is going to pay for this?


[29-Jul-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it is


[29-Jul-19 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tax payers likely, then again it likely isnt happening so probably no one


[29-Jul-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, i wouldnt be surprised if Trump tried to re-instate the military draft and only the military draft


[29-Jul-19 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This gonna suck.


[29-Jul-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2019/06/05/trump-says-bolstering-militarys-budget-makes-up-for-his-draft-deferment/

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Trump says bolstering military’s budget makes up for his draft d...
​President Trump, who got ​a ​draft deferment for bone spurs during the Vietnam ​War, said he didn’t serve because he was “never a fan” of the conflict but is making up for it now…
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[29-Jul-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the draft likely wont be re-instated but it depends on who brings it up. dulaney;s plan would be a interestign take on it. but republicans trying to brign bakc the draft would liekly just brign back the military draft without alternates


[29-Jul-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would also likely try and use the draft as a weapon against voters younger than 40


[29-Jul-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jul-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You missed one


[29-Jul-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"GUN FREE ZONE"


[29-Jul-19 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And if you check certain sites, "CRISIS ACTORS", "FALSE FLAG", "CONVENIENT TIMING"


[29-Jul-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/america-south-park-gif-10787935

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[29-Jul-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there'sa whole bingo list of things the starter pack missed


[29-Jul-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This shooting was a hoax, those people are jsut pretending to be dead to drum up the labiroll parlitikz"


[29-Jul-19 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/uBu5kBu

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The reality of the North American economy.
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[29-Jul-19 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"They haven't said the race of the shooter so we know he's not white!" "They said he's white, but I bet he's actually mexican/arab/persian/fake-white"


[29-Jul-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The shooter was clearly a liberal trying to take our guns!"


[29-Jul-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard that one in news, but i wouldnt be surprised if that was someone;s conspiracy theory...


[29-Jul-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*endless death threats towards the people speaking out after surviving these sorts of tragedies*


[29-Jul-19 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX News coverage will have Hannity opening with "We need to unite, the mainstream liberal media is going to make this about gun control, the corrupt washington elite are coming for the american right to bear arms. Over to you, Cletus Wallace Johnson the 3rd Jr. captain of the American Revolutionary Patriotic Army of Christ our Lord Savior Defender of the Holy Cross of the Greater Republic of Jesus"


[29-Jul-19 08:18 PM] Mikey#7286
Thots and prayers 🙏


[29-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thots and players


[29-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Mikey#7286
I can't bring your kids back from the dead but I don't want the evil gubment taking my guns away so have some meaningless words


[29-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the thot that counts


[29-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Yep


[29-Jul-19 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
MERRY CHRISTMAS


[29-Jul-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>An extremely sexually active woman to the point people question her morality is also an accountant


[29-Jul-19 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"First they take away our christmas, then they take away our guns!"


[29-Jul-19 08:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1155803018094247938

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President Trump takes aim at Al Sharpton saying he 'Hates Whites & Cops!'
President Trump referred to Sharpton as a "con man" and "a troublemaker" amid controversy over remarks about House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings and Baltimore.
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[29-Jul-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm not racist, It's all these black people who are racist!"


[29-Jul-19 10:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1155128232322187265

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Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar)
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1155128232322187265
Drop everything you're doing and watch this....

cc: @VictorBlackwell https://t.co/N9ZWttHSzd
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[29-Jul-19 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gilroy-garlic-festival-gunman-referenced-might-right-manifesto-shortly-shooting-n1035781

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Gilroy Garlic Festival gunman referred to 'Might is Right' manifes...
Santino William Legan used an AK-47-style rifle he bought legally in Nevada to kill three and wound a dozen more.
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[29-Jul-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
>Santino William Legan, who was shot dead by police Sunday before he could do more damage, posted online about an 1890 racist manifesto, “Might is Right or The Survival of the Fittest,” NBC News confirmed.


[29-Jul-19 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
another white supremacist asshole terrorist who bought his gun legally to shoot innocent people


[29-Jul-19 10:58 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Santino sound's Spanish though? have pic of the guy?


[29-Jul-19 11:06 PM] ononim#8141
Even if he's latino this is still fashy social-darwinist bullshit


[30-Jul-19 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9nOuR2ARuQ

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9nOuR2ARuQ
UNHINGED: Trump Explodes in Incomprehensible Twitter Storm
--Donald Trump explodes in another incomprehensible Twitter storm -Become a Member: https://www.davidpakman.com/membership -Become a Patron: https://www.patr...
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[30-Jul-19 12:22 AM] illumnious#7938
:idot:


[30-Jul-19 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/69ckogbc58d31.jpg

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[30-Jul-19 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
crow_irl


[30-Jul-19 12:33 AM] illumnious#7938
@Crow


[30-Jul-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
no, reppy irl


[30-Jul-19 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who's reppy?


[30-Jul-19 12:36 AM] illumnious#7938
who again?


[30-Jul-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
he's on IRC a lot


[30-Jul-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
he AAA's a lot


[30-Jul-19 12:39 AM] ononim#8141
>they don't know deep IRC lore


[30-Jul-19 12:39 AM] ononim#8141
This is why public discord was a bad idea


[30-Jul-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
irc wont give me access to itself


[30-Jul-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/29/mcconnell-media-mccarthyism-1440027

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McConnell accuses media outlets of 'modern-day McCarthyism'
McConnell also defended his opposition to the election security bill.
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[30-Jul-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
>Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Monday accused several media outlets of spewing "modern-day McCarthyism” after facing criticism for blocking an election-security bill.


[30-Jul-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're his advantage ergo he doesn;t see russia as a threat because they help him isntead of harm him


[30-Jul-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5zY0jNJ

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I can't believe the conditions in Baltimore!
https://i.imgur.com/d9nDT2ih.jpg


[30-Jul-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
someone's linking images of shitty conditions and pretending they're from baltimore, then correcting themselves and posting the real location they're from


[30-Jul-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BJS_quire/status/1155457940444319745

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Ben. No More, No Less. (@BJS_quire)
https://twitter.com/BJS_quire/status/1155457940444319745
I can't believe the conditions in Baltimore!

Wait... I'm sorry. These aren't from Baltimore. 

They're from the places @Jim_Jordan & @senatemajldr represent.
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[30-Jul-19 12:50 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft wow why are they doing that ?


[30-Jul-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
because trump is attacking elijah cummings for representing the district that includes baltimore


[30-Jul-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
and baltimore is in a really shitty condition


[30-Jul-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Elijah Cummings :nut:

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[30-Jul-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155073964634517505

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155073964634517505
Rep, Elijah Cummings has been a brutal bully, shouting and screaming at the great men & women of Border Patrol about conditions at the Southern Border, when actually his Baltimore district is FAR WORSE and more dangerous. His district is considered the Worst in the USA.......
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[30-Jul-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155073965880172544

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155073965880172544
....As proven last week during a Congressional tour, the Border is clean, efficient & well run, just very crowded. Cumming District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess. If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous & filthy ...
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[30-Jul-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
trump has a tendency to use the word "infested", "infestation", etc when referring to places where brown or black people are


[30-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
obviously just a coincidence, though


[30-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
absolutely no way he's a racist


[30-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
\/s


[30-Jul-19 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
"cumming district"

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[30-Jul-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5478dc3686a8456da9ef657644473166

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Analysis: Trump's political and policy guardrails fall away
WASHINGTON (AP) — An unrepentant President Donald Trump has been testing the limits of the nation's tolerance from the day he took office. Now he has cast off one of the few remaining voices...
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[30-Jul-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr a megalomaniac hates it when people tell him he can't do something, who fucking knew


[30-Jul-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9a9f5f2dff31459f821ee0ee27b124a2

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Senate bows to Trump vetoes, allows Saudi arms sales
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate failed Monday in a bid to override a trio of vetoes issued by President Donald Trump, allowing the administration to move forward with plans to sell billions of...
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[30-Jul-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Fucking spineless


[30-Jul-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1155962389776351238?s=19

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Alan Dershowitz (@AlanDersh)
https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1155962389776351238?s=19
I stand by the constitutional (not moral) argument I offered in my controversial oped: if a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how could she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex? 1/ ...
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[30-Jul-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh moment


[30-Jul-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
minors get punished for having sex with other minors though


[30-Jul-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
like CP laws are being used against underage teenagers all the time


[30-Jul-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's currently all the rage to send dick pics/nudes/etc in high school


[30-Jul-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
in california, it's illegal for someone 17 years old to have sex with someone also 17 years old


[30-Jul-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
also, it's kind of funny how few people seem to know that 14 is the age of consent in over half of europe


[30-Jul-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
and there's 1 country with the age of consent at 17 and 2 or 3 with it at 18, the rest is 16 or lower


[30-Jul-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
this thread is retarded


[30-Jul-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I agree with the guy's position, but he should have waited like


[30-Jul-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
100 years to say that publicly


[30-Jul-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the responses are all super emotional reasoning about "protect da children"


[30-Jul-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
and any attempt to actually discuss what he's saying would result in a kneejerk accusation of being a pedophile


[30-Jul-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/29c6104ac92141e985335f7e17273088

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Trump takes clemency actions in several cases
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned five men convicted of crimes including theft, fraud and drug trafficking, in addition to commuting the sentences of two others. The...
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[30-Jul-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55cb16e34e5f46ababa2ea8e4618cc98

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3 companies pay California $70 million for delaying drugs
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Three pharmaceutical companies collectively are agreeing to pay California nearly $70 million to settle allegations that they delayed drugs to keep prices high,...
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[30-Jul-19 04:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtubersunion.org/

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Youtubers Union
United We Stand
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[30-Jul-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/i-want-more-answers-man-finds-frozen-baby-in-moms-freezer-in-south-st-louis/63-e0f2345f-5de1-4b08-935f-acb6496ad142

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'I want more answers' | Man finds frozen baby in mom's freezer in ...
"I'm 37 and it has been in my freezer for 37 years and I was always told it was a wedding cake top," Smith said.
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[30-Jul-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
>Smith started to realize that his mom mentioned before about a sibling passing away before he was born.


[30-Jul-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
this article is clickbait


[30-Jul-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Super fucked up


[30-Jul-19 06:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a56a8c6fa2f44d559207eba7e56a02e8

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Trump administration, Democrats make progress on new NAFTA
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Democrats appear to be moving from "no way" to "maybe" on President Donald Trump's rewrite of a trade pact with Canada and Mexico. House Democrats have met...
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[30-Jul-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/07/29/opus-bono-sacerdotii-catholicpriest-abuse/1855105001/

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Priests accused of sex abuse turned to under-the-radar group based...
For years, Opus Bono Sacerdotii has operated in rural Michigan, providing money, legal help and other support to hundreds of Catholic priests.
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[30-Jul-19 03:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Can trump just shut the fuck up he has a very punch able face >.>


[30-Jul-19 03:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I hate hearing his voice on the news


[30-Jul-19 03:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
It always just sounds so


[30-Jul-19 03:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh


[30-Jul-19 03:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/California-town-pledges-to-remain-strong-in-wake-of-garlic-festival-shooting-513375961.html

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California town pledges to remain strong in wake of garlic festiva...
The shooting brought out renewed demands for national gun control by politicians in California, which already has some of the strictest firearms laws in the nation.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/garlicfestivalMGN.jpg


[30-Jul-19 03:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
this is just so sad


[30-Jul-19 03:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
a motherfucking garlic festival somehow became a crime scene


[30-Jul-19 03:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
why


[30-Jul-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the motive was "survival of the fittest"


[30-Jul-19 03:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah the guy was angry : /


[30-Jul-19 03:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
like wow


[30-Jul-19 03:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
shit like this just really pisses me off we should be having fun as humans not having to be scared of going anywhere


[30-Jul-19 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile we have political leaders actively encouraging this behaviour with rallies and campaign events


[30-Jul-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If you don;t go on killing sprees the liberals will take your guns away!"


[30-Jul-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You have to kill them before they come after you!"


[30-Jul-19 03:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh yeah fuck them


[30-Jul-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and this rhetoric is repeated in classrooms as well when you have trump supporting teachers


[30-Jul-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well in college anyhway...


[30-Jul-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty sure most other kinds of schools would immediatley fire that kind of teacher


[30-Jul-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least i;d hope so...


[30-Jul-19 03:52 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
id hope so to


[30-Jul-19 03:52 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but my school would enforce it :v


[30-Jul-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my hvac teacher throws this kind of stuff around


[30-Jul-19 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the rest of the strudents are also trump supporters so they just eat it up...


[30-Jul-19 03:54 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
well my old school Im glad I graduated before dump got in


[30-Jul-19 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunatley for me i came in after trump got elected and 3 semesters later a bunch of freshmen trump supporters joined


[30-Jul-19 03:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im so sorry


[30-Jul-19 03:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
trump supporters are something tho


[30-Jul-19 03:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are so stupid


[30-Jul-19 03:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
like wow


[30-Jul-19 03:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
how can they not see


[30-Jul-19 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Another shooting today, this time in a Tennessee Walmart


[30-Jul-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking dammit


[30-Jul-19 04:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why all these shooting happening so recent


[30-Jul-19 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
shooter and two dead, and a cop injured


[30-Jul-19 04:02 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
WHAT THE FUCK


[30-Jul-19 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile in Canada, https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-murder-suspect-toronto-gaming-subhuman

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Murder suspect told gaming pals he killed family so they wouldn't ...
A Canada man accused of killing four people allegedly told gaming pals that he "slaughtered" his entire family because he didn't want them to know he was a "pathetic subhuman," reports claim.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/07/Menhaz-Zaman.jpg


[30-Jul-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/30/us/mississippi-walmart-shooting-report-trnd/index.html

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A shooting at a Mississippi Walmart leaves 2 people dead and an of...
A shooting at a Mississippi Walmart left two people dead, an officer wounded and a community in shock.
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[30-Jul-19 04:04 PM] ononim#8141
oof


[30-Jul-19 04:08 PM] ononim#8141
I thought "soon there will be shootings in US daily" posts were jokes


[30-Jul-19 04:09 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
same


[30-Jul-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we were naive back then


[30-Jul-19 04:09 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
im so numb to this news now


[30-Jul-19 04:09 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its like "another" ???


[30-Jul-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
outrage fatigue is a real thing


[30-Jul-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should all be fucking outraged but we're all too tired of it to be seething with rage


[30-Jul-19 04:10 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yup


[30-Jul-19 04:11 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I told my mom when I saw It


[30-Jul-19 04:11 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
she had the same respose I did


[30-Jul-19 04:11 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
meh


[30-Jul-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here coems another spin cycle of thoughts and prayers while nothing si actually done


[30-Jul-19 04:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
eyup


[30-Jul-19 04:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and thats why I turned to atheism


[30-Jul-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was never christian or religious to begin with


[30-Jul-19 04:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I used to be


[30-Jul-19 04:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but after some life stuffed happened


[30-Jul-19 04:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and I got smarter on the subject


[30-Jul-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
my never did like the ideal of fod


[30-Jul-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
*god


[30-Jul-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
god is a prick


[30-Jul-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
the Christian god sounds  so bad with all the bible rules


[30-Jul-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus has good lessons but no one actually listens to those, and instead use god's wrath as a lesson


[30-Jul-19 04:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Another shooting in Mississippi


[30-Jul-19 04:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
realy


[30-Jul-19 04:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
fucking really


[30-Jul-19 04:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh


[30-Jul-19 04:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
fuck this


[30-Jul-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the walmart?


[30-Jul-19 04:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dunno


[30-Jul-19 04:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
let me see


[30-Jul-19 04:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
two shooting in one day?


[30-Jul-19 04:24 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think so


[30-Jul-19 04:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In long run this sounds very bad.


[30-Jul-19 04:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If everyone gets used to it, then it would be easy to "just an accident" any opponents or groups of people.


[30-Jul-19 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, that was my mad


[30-Jul-19 04:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
For actual example,  there are killings on frequent basis against certain group... this became so common, that nobody reports this in the media.


[30-Jul-19 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's mississipi, near tennessee


[30-Jul-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shootings already go unreported, the media really only covers the major shootings


[30-Jul-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
local news getsw the smaller ones but the rest of the country seeing local news is rarer


[30-Jul-19 04:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh wow ok


[30-Jul-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore-gif-7314930

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[30-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49165676

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Afghan and US forces 'deadliest for civilians'
Pro-government forces killed more civilians in the first half of 2019 than insurgents did, the UN says.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p0730cz1.jpg


[30-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Pro-government forces killed more civilians in the first half of 2019 than insurgents did, the UN says.`


[30-Jul-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-Jul-19 04:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump is gonna win next year


[30-Jul-19 04:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Economy is strong and people who don't like his racism will still bite their tongue and vote for him


[30-Jul-19 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's why Biden will be on the ballot


[30-Jul-19 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biggest name / chance against him


[30-Jul-19 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sod what the people want


[30-Jul-19 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There are people who like the economy but won't vote for Trump


[30-Jul-19 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People need to get over Sanders tbh


[30-Jul-19 04:56 PM] ononim#8141
Thanks US for affirming climate apocalypse


[30-Jul-19 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren can do anything he can


[30-Jul-19 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And has a plan


[30-Jul-19 04:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris would be a good AG if she isn't on the ballot


[30-Jul-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2020 is going to be a bigger version of the 2016 dumpster fire with all of the corruption actually up front


[30-Jul-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we should jsut glass our own country


[30-Jul-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell the democratic front runner is even using obama as a crutch liek the one in 2016


[30-Jul-19 05:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What do you expect when the US is trying to work with 9/11 guys? Not the first time they worked together? ✈ 🏙


[30-Jul-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bde0d590becf4d21a6601038ca828e3a

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Trump: Black leaders boycotting him go against 'own people'
JAMESTOWN, Va. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that black legislators boycotting his appearance at a Virginia event commemorating the 400th anniversary of the rise of American democracy...
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[30-Jul-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump claimed African Americans “love the job” he’s doing and are “happy as hell” with his recent comments criticizing a majority black district in the Baltimore area and its congressman. He spoke at the White House before heading to historic Jamestown.


[30-Jul-19 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3b7301e7e4d44a6ebb33eed0766fb850

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Opponent of nation's public lands is picked to oversee them
WASHINGTON (AP) — A conservative lawyer and writer who argues for selling off the nation's public lands is now in charge of a nearly quarter-billion acres in federally held rangeland and other...
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[30-Jul-19 06:51 PM] ononim#8141
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[30-Jul-19 06:51 PM] ononim#8141
me


[30-Jul-19 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lol


[30-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/china-release-uighurs-xinjiang-muslims-internment-reeducation-camps.html

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China Abruptly Announces It’s Totally Released Most of the Estim...
Beijing provided no evidence of the release.
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[30-Jul-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
orly


[30-Jul-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang.html

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By CHRIS BUCKLEY
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/world/asia/china-xinjiang.html
China Says Most Muslims Have Been Released From Camps. Others Say:...
The announcement is impossible to independently verify in tightly controlled Xinjiang, and runs counter to accounts of detentions compiled by activists.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/07/30/world/30china-xinjiang1/30china-xinjiang1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[30-Jul-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
> They said there was no evidence of mass releases from the camps across the Xinjiang region in China’s northwest, and that people who had nominally been freed often effectively remained in captivity, including being forced into labor programs instead.


[30-Jul-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[30-Jul-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/tvjihad/status/1156177907636736000?s=20

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Д///ИХАД (@tvjihad)
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На ЧГТРК подросток 46 минут извиняться перед властями, народом Чечни, муфтием и лично Кадыровым за оскорбительные комментарии в инстаграме. Новый рек...
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Twitter


[30-Jul-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
Chechnya's republican channel dragged a teen into the studio and made him apologize to authorities, "poeple of Chechnya", mufti (islamic priest) and Kadyrov (basically pettite dictator in charge of Chechnya) personally for insulting comment in Instagram (sic!) for 46 minutes stright


[30-Jul-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it's a step up from being publicly stoned as in the UAE I guess =/


[30-Jul-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, another mass shooting in the US today


[30-Jul-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49158979

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Anti-violence mothers gunned down in Chicago
An SUV's occupants opened fire on the mothers as they held an event aimed at curbing gun violence.
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[30-Jul-19 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/23/man-stole-million-dollars-fajitas-sentenced-50-years-prison/543055002/

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Man who stole $1.2 million in fajitas sentenced to 50 years in prison
Gilberto Escamilla, a former juvenile center employee in Cameron County, Texas, confessed to stealing the fajitas over the course of years.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/045dcad38767b0f8210d565659b9693d075b2996/c=0-0-2112-1193/local/-/media/2017/10/16/USATODAY/USATODAY/636437532855304986-GettyImages-184914617.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[30-Jul-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Steal a few billion from pensions? 2 years home arrest, if you're one of the unlucky ones


[30-Jul-19 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49155293

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Boy dies after being pushed in front of train
A 40-year-old man is arrested after being tackled by passers-by at Frankfurt station.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07j52r4.jpg


[30-Jul-19 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A reminder to stand behind the line with one foot forward...


[30-Jul-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
is there video


[30-Jul-19 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems to have been an uptick in people shoving others in front of trains/subway trains


[30-Jul-19 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not on liveleak, so probably no


[30-Jul-19 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you were asking as a warning, in which case also no


[30-Jul-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
BBC rarely publishes graphic stuff, iirc


[30-Jul-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
51% of Americans think Trump is racist


[30-Jul-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That includes just 20% of Republicans


[30-Jul-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
30% think he's not racist enough


[30-Jul-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/hAK9jq75Xn3iOi0AkQjpZdSe3UCEzjvBBOG2e8UUp7M/http/is2.4chan.org/tg/1564085839812.jpg?width=692&height=629

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[30-Jul-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455337-exclusive-dnc-rejects-yang-poll-leaving-him-off-september-debate-stage

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Yang campaign slams DNC over poll qualification criteria for Septe...
Andrew Yang's presidential campaign accused the Democratic National Committee (DNC) of rejecting one of the two NBC polls that the tech entrepreneur had promoted as having qualified him for the September presidential debate, which left h
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yangandrew_061719as3_lead.jpg


[30-Jul-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/hawley-takes-aim-facebook-youtube

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GOP Sen. Josh Hawley takes aim at Facebook and YouTube's 'deceptiv...
Sen. Josh Hawley has announced legislation designed to curb social media addiction and target “deceptive techniques” that tech giants use to exploit users.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/06/JoshHawleyGetty2019.jpg


[30-Jul-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Social Media Addiction Reduction Technology (SMART) Act would ban features such as infinite scroll and autoplay on social media as well as “achievements” such as Snapchat’s “Snapstreak.”


[30-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Ban lootboxes
>Ban autoplay
>Ban infinite scroll
>Government auditing of website rules


[30-Jul-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley is supposed to be a Republican?


[30-Jul-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5f3e937786e6421f81ee62297d48e349 this would be signifigantly more effective if it also applied to the final round ballots as well...

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California governor signs bill on presidential tax returns
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California's Democratic governor signed a law Tuesday requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns to appear on the state's primary ballot, a move aimed...
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[30-Jul-19 11:59 PM] ononim#8141
wtf I love republicans now


[31-Jul-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's next, banning candy bars at registers?


[31-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Personal responsibility, unless the people who made the thing that tempts people are left wing. Then we must have government intervention and oversight


[31-Jul-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's Hawley on Big Tech


[31-Jul-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty sure he was the guy who tried to make facebook and youtube responsible for what their users post so he could keep posting nazi memes and not having to be held accountable for it


[31-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He is.


[31-Jul-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now he's trying to ruin all social media because of it.


[31-Jul-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a whiney bitch


[31-Jul-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe jsut dont post fuckin nazi memes


[31-Jul-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe stop joking about mass shootings on fuckin facebook and keep it asan inner circle joke between close personal friends of yours in person so no one else has to hear them


[31-Jul-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Big Tech pays more money to conservative viewpoints and gives it more of a voice than any other possible way of communicating


[31-Jul-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These rantsonas making 90 videos about Captain Marvel get their money from Google.


[31-Jul-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well then stop posting nazi memes and jokes about mass shootings and just post your stupid conspiracy theories


[31-Jul-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe we should just hard ban republicans off the internet


[31-Jul-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5b26afc8a77646ab904416e299fcff27

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Media fight takes on an unusually personal tone
NEW YORK (AP) — A skirmish involving President Donald Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the Washington Post and MSNBC has escalated into unusual personal bitterness this week, with...
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[31-Jul-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we jsut hard ban republicans from life?


[31-Jul-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-Jul-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[31-Jul-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really makes you think...


[31-Jul-19 01:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Legislating against Autoplay is the only thing I unironically agree with because fuck that nonsense


[31-Jul-19 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's a good bit of "think of the children" thrown into banning autoplay, too


[31-Jul-19 01:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His true underlying motives might be flawed with a capital nazi, but I can get behind this


[31-Jul-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pgF0dUh

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Very well put
https://i.imgur.com/TSkO0Wuh.jpg


[31-Jul-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[31-Jul-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/YtoT1Ui.png

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[31-Jul-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
THANKS OSAMA


[31-Jul-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/but-her-emails-gif-12187554

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[31-Jul-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/umFxCRC.jpg

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[31-Jul-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/mitch-mcconnell-inflates-throat-pouch-in-show-of-domina-1819591493?utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Facebook&utm_c

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Mitch McConnell Inflates Throat Pouch In Show Of Dominance Over Fe...
All the latest politics coverage from The Onion, America's finest news source.
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[31-Jul-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is that a testicle


[31-Jul-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s his turtle sac


[31-Jul-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Jul-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/kF19Ox0.jpg

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[31-Jul-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
tbh this feels kind of like a boomer meme


[31-Jul-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
socialist boomers, if only


[31-Jul-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
there are democratic boomers you know


[31-Jul-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
granted, most of them are nearly as conservative as the republicans


[31-Jul-19 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Boomer jokes are usually political in nature.


[31-Jul-19 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y DO YUNG PPL USE SMARTPHONE TOO MUCH


[31-Jul-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-gop-climate-change-fbi-russia-racism-us-intelligence-a9009441.html

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Opinion: I used to work in US intelligence. This is the biggest th...
Donald Trump and his coterie of criminals have done more in two years to weaken the United States than the Soviet Union was able to achieve in decades
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/07/17/15/trump-racist.jpg


[31-Jul-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
> The threat from the right is the first national-level “insider threat” the United States has faced since the Civil War. It is insidious, asymmetric, powerful – and existential.


[31-Jul-19 02:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Can't open the article where im at but does it actually list anything that they done to weaken the government defense?


[31-Jul-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
> An enemy of the United States might seek to sow discord between ethnic groups, or to wage a disinformation campaign, or to highlight moral inconsistencies that weaken the standing of the United States on the world stage. An enemy of the United States might try and degrade the capacity and public trust within our intelligence apparatus. It might use propaganda and weaponised information. It might seek to engage in fraud or other criminal acts to sway an election in their favour.


[31-Jul-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that ICE picked up a little 9 year old girl walking on her way to school and held her for 2 days without informing her parents because she gave "inconsistent information"


[31-Jul-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
(she and her parents are all citizens)


[31-Jul-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
there's also been a lot of effort spent on discrediting our own intelligence agencies


[31-Jul-19 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
and there's like 4 departments that have been entirely cleared out of personnel in the past 2 years


[31-Jul-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
and the few that are still operating are being paralyzed from doing the jobs they were created to do in the first place


[31-Jul-19 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly Crow, if you're brown you're guilty until proven innocent


[31-Jul-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
No, if you're in the US you're guilty until proven innocent


[31-Jul-19 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's going to finish his term and half the government positions are still "acting"


[31-Jul-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Guilty of murder, so the cops can commit a good old fashioned "extrajudicial killing"


[31-Jul-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Candidates being aggressive to each other


[31-Jul-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Painfully obvious that a coalition ticket is inevitable


[31-Jul-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Dark Psychic Force"


[31-Jul-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god, the dems are going to go "She's crazy... it worked for them, so..."


[31-Jul-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She just talked about how she isn't a crazy new ager


[31-Jul-19 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
73% of people are in favour of free money


[31-Jul-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang is salty


[31-Jul-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark psychic force of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country, then I’m afraid that the Democrats are going to see some very dark days."


[31-Jul-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[31-Jul-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's got a point


[31-Jul-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is "You're talking like a Republican" gonna do


[31-Jul-19 05:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comrade Marianne is going to rebalance the national chakras


[31-Jul-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god she's making too much sense in clear language


[31-Jul-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/cmaue/status/1156383659991162880

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[31-Jul-19 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Williamson speaks like a quirky, but normal, person


[31-Jul-19 09:54 AM] ononim#8141
btw I see posts what are like "I WROTE THE DAMN BILL" who did Bern killled yesterday?


[31-Jul-19 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hickenlooper, a nobody


[31-Jul-19 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, no, some other nobody


[31-Jul-19 01:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tim Ryan


[31-Jul-19 01:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_EPiF0InzA

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'I Wrote The Damn Bill!' Sanders Claps Back At Ryan Over Health Ca...
Bernie Sanders took a strong position on health care during the second Democratic presidential debate, but his ideas were firmly opposed by Tim Ryan.» Subscr...
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[31-Jul-19 02:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`When asked after Tuesday’s debate how successful her performance was, Ms Williamson reportedly told CNN journalist Sarah Mucha: “I’ll tell you later when I see the memes.”`

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[31-Jul-19 02:18 PM] ononim#8141

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[31-Jul-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g64KbAU2Lc

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‘Dark Psychic Force’: Williamson Sounds Off On Race, Reparatio...
Political outsider Marianne Williamson drew applause from the crowd during the second Democratic presidential debate for her answers on race. She targeted th...
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[31-Jul-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9d58d52a37ce46fbad54cbf3e9dd67fb

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Texas firm accused of Medicare fraud files for bankruptcy
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A blood-testing company filed for bankruptcy and says it's cutting jobs because Medicare payments have been withheld over allegations of fraud. The Richmond...
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[31-Jul-19 04:32 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
how many debates are gonna be going on now ?


[31-Jul-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think today's is the last before they start filtering Dem candidates down to a sensible number


[31-Jul-19 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49177034

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Ronald Reagan called Africans at UN 'monkeys'
The former US president made the comment in a 1971 phone call, newly-unearthed recordings reveal.
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[31-Jul-19 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"To see those... monkeys from those African countries - damn them, they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes!"`
`the president later told his secretary of state that Mr Reagan had described the Tanzanian delegation as "cannibals" that "weren't even wearing shoes".`


[31-Jul-19 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/gildahamidinia/status/1156589180291624961

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[31-Jul-19 06:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RussiaInsider/status/1154374898489253888?s=19

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Stalin Would Have Reached Paris Before the Allies if Not for the Incredible Heroism of the Waffen SS https://t.co/lt5Rw50KmW
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[31-Jul-19 06:14 PM] ononim#8141
Saying the quiet part loud I see


[31-Jul-19 06:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you, Russia. Very cool.


[31-Jul-19 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
w-wat


[31-Jul-19 06:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Indeed.


[31-Jul-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2019/07/30/halloween-petition-more-than-100000-people-have-signed-on-to-officially-move-the-holiday/23782661/

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Petition to move Halloween may be headed to the White House
A petition to move Halloween to the last Saturday of October has gained more than 100,000 signatures and could be on its way to the White House.
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[31-Jul-19 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407199720340193290/606137875112787987/image0.jpg

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[31-Jul-19 07:40 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
((POLITICS))


[31-Jul-19 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1UQ0JF?__twitter_impression=true

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Sign of the times: China's capital orders Arabic, Muslim symbols t...
Authorities in the Chinese capital have ordered halal restaurants and food stalls to remove Arabic script and symbols associated with Islam from their signs, part of an expanding national effort to "Sinicize" its Muslim population.
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[31-Jul-19 07:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Right


[31-Jul-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
🙄


[31-Jul-19 08:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Since Obama came around? 
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/federal-reserve-approves-its-first-rate-cut-2008-n1037206

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Federal Reserve approves its first rate cut since 2008
The Fed is hoping to head off any impact on the U.S. from a global economy weakened by geopolitical tensions, Trump's trade wars, and stalled growth.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_25/2902141/190619-jerome-powell-ew-1048a_5b036b56194a785e236e804fb69cc4a8.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[31-Jul-19 08:54 PM] Mikey#7286
How about just abolishing it


[31-Jul-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4baf342f71024f48bc375f7e1222cec6

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Moscow couple shaken but defiant after police crackdown
MOSCOW (AP) — The young woman screamed as her boyfriend lay atop her, absorbing the blows of a helmeted riot policeman. It's one of the indelible images of the violent police response to an...
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[31-Jul-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3b82dd98c56f45d4a97170c3f758cb84

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Trump 'rodent' tweets ring true at Kushner-owned apartments
BALTIMORE (AP) — Davon Jones doesn't have to look far to see the irony in President Donald Trump's tweets that Baltimore is a "rat and rodent infested mess." His apartment owned by the president's...
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[31-Jul-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/455586-dilbert-comic-creator-apologizes-for-promoting-his-app-in-wake

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Dilbert comic creator apologizes for promoting his app in wake of ...
The creator behind the popular comic strip “Dilbert” is apologizing to the families of victims of the recent shooting in California after he promoted his new app, which provides a platform for experts to discuss issues over video for mo
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[31-Jul-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God Adams is pathetic.


[31-Jul-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
**RANCH**


[31-Jul-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
**OR COOL RANCH**


[31-Jul-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nacho cheese


[31-Jul-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Williamson obviously was talking about the IT; we need to tesser with Oprah.


[31-Jul-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait...dammit, Oprah was considering running and she didn't do it.


[31-Jul-19 11:51 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Fucking Hell, no wonder the American public education system is so awful & soul-crushing; it was literally designed to be that way
https://medium.com/@matthewgallaherheim/cognitive-dissonance-and-the-prussian-education-model-d335374802d7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw

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Cognitive Dissonance and the Prussian Education Model
In October of 1806 the Prussian army was routed by Napoleon’s forces in the battle of Jena, subjugating the kingdom to the French Empire…
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Police State USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZp7eVJNJuw
The Origins of the American Public Education System: Horace Mann &...
The American Public Education System was directly imported from Prussia (modern day Germany). This model of "free and compulsory" education was designed by t...
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[01-Aug-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which may or may not explain boomers...


[01-Aug-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably still try it today but due to lack of a budget, and outdated books, and lack of supplies, and understaffment. It;s super ineffective


[01-Aug-19 01:42 AM] RYDE#8862
So that's why we never think for ourselves?


[01-Aug-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, and a culture hostile or stigmatizing towards the educational establishment, rather than cooperative (like happens in Brazil) also contributes a lot to neglect of education as a crucial nationbuilding module.


[01-Aug-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/democratic-debate-july-31-2019/index.html

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CNN's Democratic debate, night 2
Twenty Democratic presidential hopefuls will face off at the CNN primary debate in Detroit. Follow here for the latest.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190718212836-20190718-the-draw-2nd-night-super-tease.jpg


[01-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth is going on


[01-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
why is america like this

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[01-Aug-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

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By JAMES B. STEWART, MATTHEW GOLDSTEIN and JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html
Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race With His DNA
Mr. Epstein, the accused sex trafficker, was fascinated by eugenics. He told scientists and others of his vision of using his New Mexico ranch to impregnate women.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/07/31/business/31epsteinbabyfarm2/31epsteinbabyfarm2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Jeffrey E. Epstein, the wealthy financier who is accused of sex trafficking, had an unusual dream: He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.


[01-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.


[01-Aug-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what were they chanting?


[01-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Fire Pantaleo"


[01-Aug-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the eric garner case


[01-Aug-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let me tell you why obama is my god and saviour"-biden


[01-Aug-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Go easy on me, kid."- Biden


[01-Aug-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We need to do the opposite of much of what we're doing right now, and the opposite of Donald Trump is an Asian man who likes math."- Yang


[01-Aug-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God I hate Biden so much


[01-Aug-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You shoudl trust insurance and your work place to give you the coverage you need :D"


[01-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden vs Trump is the creepy uncle at every Thanksgiving who gets drunk and talks about how he fucked so many women in college vs the creepy uncle who ended up in jail because he touched your cousin


[01-Aug-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Guys you gotta stop fighting the insurance companies!"


[01-Aug-19 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Yang likes math so much, why didn't he drop out a month ago?


[01-Aug-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"What were your thoughts?" "Obama did  the things and boy did the ball go!"


[01-Aug-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I refuse to answer questions about myself, I am obama! Obama owns my will power"


[01-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm not using obama as a crutch,  But let me tell you about our lord and savior Obama Christ""


[01-Aug-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HAIL OBAMA


[01-Aug-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
OBAMA IS GOD


[01-Aug-19 03:45 AM] ononim#8141

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[01-Aug-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"people beleive biden is the best person to beat Trump":wat:


[01-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden on the ballot is the sort of thing that'd make me stay at home


[01-Aug-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"a vote for biden is a vote for a half assed third term obama !"


[01-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_predicts Williamson - Yang_


[01-Aug-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd fuckin vote yang if he was able to make it past primaries which he sadly wont


[01-Aug-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if expats get the free thousand bucks as well


[01-Aug-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said, that oen guy was right int hat it doesnt matter who gets in, mcconnall is one of the most major obstacles to any new coming president


[01-Aug-19 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
stream died for me :<


[01-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s back they went to break


[01-Aug-19 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, then it died


[01-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh dang


[01-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
refresh maybe?


[01-Aug-19 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems a lot has just died for me


[01-Aug-19 04:01 AM] ononim#8141
F


[01-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FF actually


[01-Aug-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bastard thing died


[01-Aug-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now it;s the gender wage gap


[01-Aug-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/see-rammstein-members-kiss-onstage-in-russia-to-protest-anti-lgbtq-laws-863818/

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See Rammstein Members Kiss Onstage in Russia to Protest Anti-LGBTQ...
Guitarists Paul Landers and Richard Kruspe exchanged kiss while headlining Moscow’s Luzhniki Stadium
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[01-Aug-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"walk and chew gum" is a phrase being thrown a lot


[01-Aug-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf was that URL


[01-Aug-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is a horrible person and may just be sufficiently so to get elected.


[01-Aug-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to remember that for every person who supports Bernie because Bernie actually has a clue and cares about people, 2 more believe that blakks should be imprisoned and that any expansion of civil rights for gays and women is a direct assault on FAMILY VALUES.


[01-Aug-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are lesbian blakk women who believe that Jesus wanted them to resist their temptation, that women are bad at being bosses, and that reparations for slavery are unfair because you've gotta work, son.


[01-Aug-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is America.


[01-Aug-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's who will vote on election day for Biden.


[01-Aug-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's base of racist shitheads is a third of the populace.


[01-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
A third of the populace believes that hippies are evil, nazis aren't that bad, wealthy people should control the world (and not be STOLEN from to pay for poor people to survive) without oversight, mexicans and trans people should be put in cages, free trade is basically communism, and that democracy isn't really important.


[01-Aug-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[01-Aug-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a plague.


[01-Aug-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
road house


[01-Aug-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In all honesty, at this point I strongly suspect it would take concerted eugenics efforts to fix human society.


[01-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tendency towards authoritarianism and especially fascism is just way too strong and needs to be neutered if these tendencies persist anywhere near this much into the age where the dominant generation grew up with internet access.


[01-Aug-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And seeing how horrid things are with mob mentality online lately, I suspect the internet has no real net effect on our desire for fascism, it merely changes its forms to be based less on government authority figures and more on celebrity figures.


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick Biden/Sanders


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is happy then.


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it most likely increases the rate of normal moral reinforcement to such an extreme that tolerance basically flies out the window, making us perhaps even more apt for fascism.


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Biden/Warren


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Sanders has two major issues


[01-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're both white men and they're both old


[01-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former means progressives are less enthused


[01-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Being old isn't enough to dissuade progressives


[01-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the latter means conservatives go BUT HE'LL DIE IN OFFICE


[01-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Biden wouldn't pick the most liberal judge to be on SCOTUS after Garland


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you get a young woman for VP, conservatives will not rage hugely cause she's still seen as subservient to a man


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they will also be less able to make the argument that both the P and VP could die in office.


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris if not P or VP should be AG


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their only argument would be the obviously-sexist "but if he dies, a woman's in charge"


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing is


[01-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's clear you can't hav a woman as the P pikk


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women are seen as more liberal, and conservatives hate seeing them in charge.


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has managed to be so racist that the people who like him for the economy won't vote for him


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary would've won if she were a man.


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who like him for the economy are conservatives, Its


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He shot the economy in the foot


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
he shot farmers in the bakk


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh well have an openly gay man before a woman.


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who like him for that are people who liv in rural areas but aren't farmers


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
AKA


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Farmers got fucking wrecked under Trump


[01-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
racists


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his solution to fixing afghanistan is to shoot it point blank in the head


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He will still get his 30% base


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will still vote for him


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they are racists.


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because they like the economy


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately so


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a shit about America being land of the free, or democraticy, or having a high GDP


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
all they want is for blakks to be kept in their homes and out of the workplace


[01-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
for mexicans to be put in cages


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and for trans and gay people to stop "being in my face" by being vaguely hinted at existing.


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if hitler came bac from the dead jesus style, they woudl woship at his feet and call him their savior


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They voted for him because he promised to put the undesirables in their places.


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he did.


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They voted for him to put children in cages


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to pull every legal trikk in the book to fight human rights.


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did.


[01-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will vote for him again.


[01-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moderates however hav just realized they've been bamboozled.


[01-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Into believing somehow that *Hillary Clinton* of all people is a rekkless uncaring bitch compared to the guy who made a career literally out of denying blakk people housing while lying in every sentence told to investors.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because moderates are FUKKING STUPID SHITHEADS, @Itsthinking


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are moderates because they're dumb.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because they came to a well-reasoned middle-of-the-road stance.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how American politics are.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was unlikeable.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No Democrat running now has the same baggage.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody who's a moderate in a climate of "kill mexican children" vs. "maybe don't" is a moderate out of intelligence.


[01-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even Biden.


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe Sanders


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have said this before


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could hav literally done the same things Hillary did his entire life


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think people underestimate how far left left leaning voters will go


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would've won in 2016


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seeing as Sanders is "the dude that lost to the loser of 2016"


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like how they did with the right


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to understand


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary isn't special


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Maybe we can kill some mexican children and let the rest go" -moderates


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's just a *woman*


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
women can't be elected to the presidency.


[01-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because a third of American voters don't like women being in power.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is basically Clinton but without baggage


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and she will lose if she's the presidential pikk.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which Clinton


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not so sure it is about being a woman


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is tho.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You continually underestimate conservative ideas.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you don't understand them.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, under Trump, the US got pretty fuckin' sexist


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives *don't believe* in reasoning.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hard to understand though, you must admit


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives do not actually listen to what the facts are.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care who is really at fault.


[01-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't wrap my mind around it.


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care the why, or the who, or anything.


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they care about is that X is bad, so let's kill X


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservative logic is "we have the authority and power to do this thing regardless of consequince, we shoudl glass afghanistan!"


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feels before reals.


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary Clinton could hav done none of the scandal shit she got pinned for, Its.


[01-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
She would've *barely* possibly won.


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of moderates voting more for her.


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives would vote the exact same way.


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Benghazi, BUT HER EMAILS, health concerns - it's all just excuses


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals put the time in to think, realize none of it really is a reason to not elect her


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Health concerns are useless


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives don't.


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have a VP for a reason


[01-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives just need something they can say to liberals


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
to justify their beliefs to themselves


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if liberals in unison say "but that's bullshit because..."


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will just ignore the rebuttal, always.


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives will vote entirely out of spite even as rural America dies of opioids and they complain about Baltimore


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why they voted for Trump.


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who has fixed rural Kentucky?


[01-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not the Turtle.


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary wasn't unlikable, she was a woman, and conservatives don't like women.


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural America is not essential


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren/Bernie could seriously lose to Trump.


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie/Warren is much stronger.


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Biden/Warren creams that.


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why it will be Biden/Bernie or Biden/Warren


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden/Warren is super solid


[01-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Bernie is barely better than Bernie/Warren


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless biden decides he wants soemone else who isnt even a candidate for president


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden chooses, like, Oprah


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't fucking pick Kaine or some dumb generic white guy senator


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he has a chance to screw it up


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It never works


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he chose Kaine, oh man.


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why did Clinton pick Kaine again


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Clinton was a woman


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama considered Kaine in 2008


[01-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
having a man as VP is similar to having Biden


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get a white man


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that conservatives can play pretend he's in charge


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
like Cheney was over Bush.


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As an aside


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then conservatives are mildly less spiteful against you, as a person who isn't a white man.


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But why Kaine


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why specifically that white man


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same reason why MIB has the senior partner as a white man, in every movie.


[01-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I notice how people seem to have completely forgotten how shitty GW Bush was


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like holy shit


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kaine was forgettable.


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely to raise a fuss.


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does no one else how he gave away free money in 2007?


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perfect for Hillary to prevent another scandal coming to light.


[01-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voters hav very short memories, Its


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody remembers that Bush tried the same tariffs as Trump on metals


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that it SHRUNK AMERICA'S METAL INDUSTRY


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just remember when people like


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thought Bobby Jindal would be president for sure


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's because they were too busy remembering Bush's Iraq shenanigans


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i did not know this, i wasnt paying attention to politics bakc then


[01-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember how poorly Bush handled Katrina?


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
(when you tariff steel, people don't buy only American steel, as now in total it's too costly, they just buy non-steel, so then they buy less American steel, so American steel dies)


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seriously? People thought *Jindal* would be president?


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He dropped out crazy early


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the Tea Party era


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tea Party only succeeded in crippling House Republicans long-term.


[01-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The real stories of 2018 politically


[01-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Death of moderates in the Senate


[01-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Death of the California GOP


[01-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Californian Republicans were always different


[01-Aug-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hooray now the US is basically two different countries mishmashed into one and then blended


[01-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now they'll either go left or not vote at all


[01-Aug-19 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what role mcconnell will play when the republican party eats itself


[01-Aug-19 05:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You mean the role he's *playing*


[01-Aug-19 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but i mean his final moves


[01-Aug-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now his role is holding up a collapsing trump support beam to make sure it;s russian architecture doesn;tfall appart


[01-Aug-19 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/569758ff78f94677897e71b595e6c48b

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Trump designates Brazil a 'major non-NATO ally'
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration has designated Brazil a "major non-NATO ally," making good on a pledge President Donald Trump made to Brazil's leader in March. The designation was...
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[01-Aug-19 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/44c8a3c142c7435d8ed77396664a4170 meanwhile Trump is supporting war criminals and taking medals away from navy personnel who fight them

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Navy SEAL prosecutors to be stripped of achievement medals
WASHINGTON (AP) — Navy officials said Wednesday they are pulling achievement medals from prosecutors who argued the case against a decorated Navy SEAL who was acquitted in the death of a wounded...
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[01-Aug-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[01-Aug-19 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wasn't foudn innocent either, he was acquited because trump got involved in his case


[01-Aug-19 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and while he got demoted, i bet trump is trying to re-instate his full position bakc into the battlefield


[01-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably has a position in the WH lined up


[01-Aug-19 05:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a few other war criminals Trump is trying to get pardoned as well. He wanted to do it as a memorial day triibute but failed


[01-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, fascism cares none for rule of law.


[01-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lawyer who tries to enact law against your boys = stripped of medals.


[01-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
according to a comment on another article, "achievement medals" are like a teacher putting a gold star on a student's test


[01-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
they're barely worth anything


[01-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
the comment compares it to a school superintendent removing a gold star from a student's spelling test


[01-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the complete level of pettiness


[01-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
it's an ultra petty non-power move


[01-Aug-19 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump basically wants mroe people in his army who are willing to follow orders to kill civilians without hesitation like gallagher did, and these medals liekly wont be the last non power "power move" he pulls to try and enforce this


[01-Aug-19 05:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it starts with the acheivement medals and doesn;t end there


[01-Aug-19 05:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He wants the kind of law enforcement that russia, china, and north korea have


[01-Aug-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
violent ego maniacs wiith a blood thirst and a willingness to follow deranged orders


[01-Aug-19 07:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBvYW93BQhg

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The Thinkery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBvYW93BQhg
False Allegations Destroy Lives
Falsely accusing someone of rape is evil. Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/profile/JnQkBKkHmwuP/ Follow me on Telegram: https://t.me/sargon_of...
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[01-Aug-19 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
True allegations destroy more lives


[01-Aug-19 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
So which is worse, hm?


[01-Aug-19 01:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So what he is say is that we should send him to jail for making false allegations about politicians and political groups or does his brand of bullshit fall under freeze peach?


[01-Aug-19 03:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789) it is everywhere.


[01-Aug-19 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Teachers are marking the answers as correct when it is only and only same as it says in marking guide. Try to give your opinion, when there is only one.


[01-Aug-19 03:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And good luck with homeschooling,  when the answers will be incorrect,  even if they are logically correct.


[01-Aug-19 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how some conservatives are now "WOW, SO BOOKER GETS TO SAY S*HOLE AND THAT'S OK? DOUBLE STANDARDS REEEE!"


[01-Aug-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/aliceemross/status/1156479887038963713

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Chilling FT graphic today - how poorer each person across Europe would be under a no-deal Brexit:
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[01-Aug-19 04:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1156935288322699265?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1156935288322699265?s=21
Budget Deal is phenomenal for our Great Military, our Vets, and Jobs, Jobs, Jobs! Two year deal gets us past the Election. Go for it Republicans, there is always plenty of time to CUT!
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[01-Aug-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cut jobs down! Cut trees down! Cut homeless in half! There's always time to cut, cut, cut!  Cut it all!


[01-Aug-19 05:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I've got a solution


[01-Aug-19 05:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Give everyone their own house that they would build by themselves


[01-Aug-19 05:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It would solve no jobs and homeless problems


[01-Aug-19 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TWIT_ANTHONY/status/1156935338817929216

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Anthony Cornrod (@TWIT_ANTHONY)
https://twitter.com/TWIT_ANTHONY/status/1156935338817929216
@realDonaldTrump First thing President Trump thinks of when He jumps out of bed in the morning is YOU! He loves every American like His own children. Then He is up and brushing the teeth of liberty, combing the hair of golden prosperity, and putting on deodorant of furious...
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[01-Aug-19 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
> First thing President Trump thinks of when He jumps out of bed in the morning is YOU! He loves every American like His own children. Then He is up and brushing the teeth of liberty, combing the hair of golden prosperity, and putting on deodorant of furious anger.

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[01-Aug-19 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
this guy sounds like a cultist wtf


[01-Aug-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cult of personality taken to a new level


[01-Aug-19 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this guy sounds like he has donald trump memorobilia in every facett of his life


[01-Aug-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[01-Aug-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TWIT_ANTHONY/status/1156787899934871552

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https://twitter.com/TWIT_ANTHONY/status/1156787899934871552
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[01-Aug-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't tell if this is a parody account or not


[01-Aug-19 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/747210582/ohio-police-officers-face-disciplinary-action-over-stormy-daniels-arrest

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Ohio Police Officers Face Disciplinary Action Over Stormy Daniels'...
The officers include a police commander, a lieutenant, a sergeant and two of the officers who arrested Stephanie Clifford — better known as Stormy Daniels — last summer in Columbus.
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[01-Aug-19 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinas-army-just-released-a-video-showing-soldiers-practicing-shooting-protesters/2019/08/01/f884b9a6-b41e-11e9-acc8-1d847bacca73_story.html


[01-Aug-19 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
> The top Chinese military official in Hong Kong has called the violent protests of recent weeks “absolutely intolerable,” in a threatening speech that coincides with the release of an extraordinary video showing Chinese soldiers practicing firing on demonstrators.


[01-Aug-19 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
> Together, the speech and the video served as a thinly veiled warning to the protesters in Hong Kong that China’s patience is growing thin and that it is becoming increasingly willing to use force to quell the demonstrations in the semiautonomous territory.


[01-Aug-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess the events of tiananmen square are about to repeat themselves...


[01-Aug-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/eb133861beb04ce5afebe469ba549ecd

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GOP pushes immigration bill as Democrats decry rules
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee upended the rules Thursday to advance a controversial immigration bill as chairman Lindsey Graham muscled through a detention bill...
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[01-Aug-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The bill would change existing law that limits family detentions to 20 days for migrants traveling with children, requiring them to be released pending asylum hearings. Among other changes, Graham’s bill would allow longer detentions by doing away with the limits under the so-called Flores settlement, based on a previous legal case.


[01-Aug-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://archive.is/TJyZX also here;s the washington post article not locked behind a paywall

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China’s army just released a video showing soldiers practicing s...
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[01-Aug-19 06:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> history repeating itself
Hypothetical question, how could you prevent the historic event from reoccurring in personal capacity?


[01-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh cool washington post killed the incognito loophole...


[01-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck those guys


[01-Aug-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
use AAK


[01-Aug-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
or noscript if you prefer


[01-Aug-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a clientside hack


[01-Aug-19 07:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow oh god please don't tell me that **nothing** is going to happen again


[01-Aug-19 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've heard of the events at **day in which nothing extraordinary happened**


[01-Aug-19 07:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:TwilyStop: 🚜 🚜 🚜 🚜


[01-Aug-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing happens 2: hong kong hussle


[01-Aug-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nothing Happening 2: A Normal Day In Hong Kong


[01-Aug-19 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothings happening 3: oh look a butterfly


[01-Aug-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Aug-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, hong kong is fucked...


[01-Aug-19 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, it's gonna be weird when chinese people search for "hong kong" in a few weeks and all the news articles just have this big gap


[01-Aug-19 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2019/07/29/shock-treatment-in-court

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Stun Belts Administer Shock Treatment in Court
Some states control defendants by making them wear 50,000-volt stun cuffs, but the practice is open to abuse.
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[01-Aug-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2019/08/01/one-lawyer-five-years-3-802-cases

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One Lawyer. Five Years. 3,802 Cases.
In Detroit, court-appointed lawyers for the poor take on large caseloads at the expense of their clients, a new report says.
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[01-Aug-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I live in a society

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[01-Aug-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/431f4cf54078434f81d5af519ac82c44

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Trump threatens 10% tariffs on China; stocks plummet on news
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump announced Thursday the U.S. will apply a new tariff of 10% on about $300 billion worth of products from China beginning Sept. 1, escalating the two...
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[01-Aug-19 09:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://news.yahoo.com/rammstein-guitarists-kiss-protest-russia-lgbtq-laws-144832780.html

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Rammstein guitarists kiss onstage in protest against Russia's anti...
The German musicians locked lips during a performance of their song “Auslander” at Russia’s Luzhniki Stadium earlier this week.
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[01-Aug-19 09:11 PM] ononim#8141
woah


[01-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, that's one way to get banned in Russia


[01-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then there's the comments...


[01-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're a real American you get listed as a persona non grata in dictatorships


[01-Aug-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"WOW, you people DEFEND Schindler? NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW BY THE LIBS!"


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
This stun belts article is horifying


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To me what is more interesting than like, the SS guards at camps and ran the experiments etc


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I find the idea of the banality of evil fascinating


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Should these judges not be discharged and sent to federal prison


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Like wtf


[01-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like the accountants who made sure the trains to the death camps ran


[01-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or IBM, helping the Nazis exterminate


[01-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Krupps using slave labor


[01-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, a contract's a contract, right


[01-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta get paid


[01-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Coco Chanel trying to take advantage of the situation before she found out that the two Jewish owners who owned 2/3 of her company had already transferred their shares out of France so she couldn't seize them


[01-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All that bad shit is unfortunate but whadda ya gunna do? Just one guy and rent is due.


[01-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She wanted to use a Nazi law in occupied France to take total control of her company


[01-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the shares owned by the two Jewish guys who were co owners with her already sold them off so she couldn't get them


[01-Aug-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1ee215d58e7e49838249589d91022da6

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Kentucky pipeline blast leaves 1 dead, 5 injured
JUNCTION CITY, Ky. (AP) — A regional gas pipeline ruptured early Thursday in Kentucky, causing a massive explosion that killed one person, hospitalized five others, destroyed railroad tracks and...
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[02-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1156916257834381312?s=20

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Have you ever noticed the popularity of white robots? The reason for these shades of technological white may be racism, according to new research. https://t.co/PHJHO91VtA
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[02-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boi


[02-Aug-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I... wut?


[02-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[02-Aug-19 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:wat:


[02-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even hentai artists can do stretching that extreme


[02-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/house-impeachment-proceedings.jpg

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[02-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess how this graph was promoted as in the title


[02-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Democrat support for impeachment drops"


[02-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The margin of error is 5%


[02-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"drops"


[02-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so no one sees The Hill as biased


[02-Aug-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of doing the "wow look how GOP support has doubled" they do this


[02-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
honestly impeachment is pointless because the election is around the corner and we'd just get pence


[02-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who is completely unelectable


[02-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty obvious the GOP would want Jordan or Gaetz in 2024


[02-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
who?


[02-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump's biggest House supporters


[02-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
also pence would take Trump's place


[02-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For a little bit


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
true


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude's white bread


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too bland for even the GOP


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachment support would only rise if they opened a charge up


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't perjury over a blowjob


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't see it happening tbh


[02-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're 12 away from majority support


[02-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
huh


[02-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
106, need 118 for majority of the Democratic votes


[02-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/455386-epa-proposal-scraps-limits-on-coal-plant-waste

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EPA proposal scraps limits on coal plant waste
The Trump administration on Wednesday proposed scrapping restrictions on arsenic-laden waste from coal-fired power plants.
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[02-Aug-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and there falls another regulation


[02-Aug-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did you enjoy your drinkign water citizens? well fuck you! it;s the last you'll ever have!"


[02-Aug-19 03:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck


[02-Aug-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/08/01/break-in-reported-at-rep-elijah-cummings-house/

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https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/08/01/break-in-reported-at-rep-elijah-cummings-house/
Rep. Elijah Cummings' Baltimore Home Burglarized, Police Say
Baltimore Police are investigating after the home of Rep. Elijah Cummings was broken into early Saturday morning.
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[02-Aug-19 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP/Trump will use this as "proof" Trump is right and obviate that Trump painted a giant target on this guy


[02-Aug-19 06:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*What the fuck*


[02-Aug-19 07:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQRcE1xRxXc

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Second Ebola Death in Goma as the World Stares Nervously but Idly
Inaction kills: http://archive.is/WMlwc Website: https://tarlwarwick.net Merch: https://tarlwarwick.net/collections/all Support via donation: Patreon: https:...
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[02-Aug-19 11:30 AM] Torr#5078
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[02-Aug-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7017a0cf668b4845a3b38be1ec44ecfc

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North Korea fires weapons again in possible pressure tactic
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea fired what appeared to be short-range ballistic missiles twice Friday into the sea off its eastern coast in its third round of weapons tests in just over a...
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[02-Aug-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0c787633acc04ac29934132b66bf2c64

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Boris Johnson's party suffers defeat in UK special election
LONDON (AP) — British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's governing Conservative Party lost a special election early Friday, leaving it with a one-vote working majority in Parliament as Brexit...
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[02-Aug-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/overnights/341344-overnight-cybersecurity-trump-backtracks-on-cyber-unit-with

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Overnight Cybersecurity: Trump backtracks on cyber unit with Russi...
Welcome to OVERNIGHT CYBERSECURITY, your daily rundown of the biggest news in the world of hacking and data privacy. We're here to connect the dots as leaders in government, policy and industry try to counter the rise in cyber threats.
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[02-Aug-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump is trying to work with russia on making the cyber defense against election meddling... with russia


[02-Aug-19 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this of course faced severe backlash because he;s an idiot who deicded it was a good idea to to put russia in charge of our cyber security when they're one of the biggest threats to it...


[02-Aug-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/38a2507137914c949364d0cf5b1f3ebf

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India again rejects Trump's Kashmir mediation offer
BANGKOK (AP) — India on Friday again rejected President Donald Trump's offer to mediate its dispute with Pakistan over Kashmir. India's foreign minister said he told Secretary of State Mike...
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[02-Aug-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/-moscow-mitch-mcconnell-fuming-with-trolling-65081925887

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‘Moscow Mitch’ McConnell ‘fuming’ with trolling
New pressure on the top Republican in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, who blocked a series of elections security bills despite warnings from Bob Mueller and American intelligence that Russia is still at it. McConnell is furious with his new ‘Moscow Mitch’ nickname as progres...
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[02-Aug-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now everyone is blasting his washington office's fax machine with this so thye have to keep replacing the toner

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[02-Aug-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Aug-19 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Aug-19 04:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oopsie woopsie!"


[02-Aug-19 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
they're going to end up finding whoever did it, and he's going to end up being a trump fanatic


[02-Aug-19 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
white supremacist neo-nazi and all that


[02-Aug-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://telecoms.com/498831/age-discrimination-lawsuit-rumbles-on-as-ibm-accused-of-trendy-objectives/

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Age-discrimination lawsuit rumbles on as IBM accused of ‘trendy...
In an on-going age-discrimination lawsuit, a former Big Blue executive has suggested the firm fired old-timers in pursuit of a ‘trendy’ and ‘cool’ image, so it could compete with the likes of Google and Amazon.
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[02-Aug-19 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
on one hand, I understand where it's coming from, on the other hand, fucking boomers ruined the economy by voting in neoliberals


[02-Aug-19 05:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/rechelon/status/1156432193473794048

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William Gillis 🏴 (@rechelon)
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Most folks radicalized online in these recent years have virtually no knowledge of what serious state repression looks like, and that lack of preparation scares me to my bones. So here's a thread about shit cops pull:
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[02-Aug-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Aug-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Every single time


[02-Aug-19 08:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.ccn.com/news/zuckerberg-wiretap-whatsapp-libra/2019/07/30/

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Zuckerberg Plans to Wiretap Whatsapp. He’ll Do the Same to Libra
A new report shows that Zuckerberg is building a wiretapping back-door to WhatsApp. He'll do the same to Libra using the Calibra wallet.
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[02-Aug-19 08:35 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This man needs to be locked up


[02-Aug-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Zuckerberg isn't building it


[02-Aug-19 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Facebook is


[02-Aug-19 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Aug-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/01/uk-less-able-to-cope-with-hard-brexit-than-in-spring-say-officials?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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UK less able to cope with hard Brexit than it was in spring, say o...
Exclusive: Analysis includes stark assessments of potential problems including panic-buying and civil disorder
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[02-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr the UK is even less prepared now for a "hard brexit" than it was 4 months ago, and there's practical certainty that poor people will be getting fucked over hard


[02-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also we may get a sequel to The Troubles


[02-Aug-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Aug-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/02/us/politics/2020-democratic-fundraising.html

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Detailed Maps of the Donors Powering the 2020 Democratic Campaigns
We analyzed the Democratic presidential candidates’ fund-raising to see how widespread their support was across the United States.
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[02-Aug-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The perfect Texas outline


[02-Aug-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well nearly


[02-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Litrojia#0612
Weird to see some marginal candidates taking their own states. I guess it makes sense, but imagine a place where people take Bullock seriously.


[02-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Keep in mind there are like 120k people in that whole area


[02-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah


[02-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Litrojia#0612
I imagine those are the majority of his base


[02-Aug-19 09:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, it makes sense to have home-state advantage


[02-Aug-19 09:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Kasich did win the 2016 Ohio Rep primary after all


[02-Aug-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/87a22529ee6845c68989eca5f7dc560e

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NYPD judge recommends firing officer in Eric Garner death
NEW YORK (AP) — An administrative judge on Friday recommended firing the New York City police officer accused of using a chokehold in the 2014 death of an unarmed black man whose dying pleas of "I...
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[02-Aug-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/52951f9774bb45fda3104667d84f7355

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Trump pick for national intelligence director is withdrawing
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says his pick for national intelligence director has decided to withdraw from the running, citing unfair media coverage. In a tweet Friday, Trump...
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[02-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
O N L Y  T H E  B E S T   P E O P L E


[02-Aug-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.lex18.com/georgetown-man-charged-in-assault-outside-trump-rally

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Georgetown man charged in assault outside Trump rally
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[02-Aug-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/65d75aef66234b07abd82143762b7493

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US-Russia arms control treaty dies; US to test new weapon
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States plans to test a new missile in coming weeks that would have been prohibited under a landmark, 32-year-old arms control treaty that the U.S. and Russia ripped up...
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[02-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, Russia broke that a long time ago


[02-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And in true Putin fashion has just been denying it with a shit eating smile since


[02-Aug-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/39d5feeaa8094acba50525581cd6a137

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Stolen goods on Amazon? Shoppers won't care, experts say
NEW YORK (AP) — News of an alleged Amazon theft ring involving contract delivery drivers is unlikely to make a dent in the online shopping giant's massive business. But it may make people more...
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[02-Aug-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Very presidential


[02-Aug-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Enough people are there for an impeachment inquiry now


[02-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at most one more is needed


[02-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
117 or 118


[02-Aug-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
No you are the dumbest and most racist president we've had in decades


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Andrew Jackson


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ronald Reagan


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas Jefferson


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Touche


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
LBJ


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Edited


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Truman


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok


[02-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
117 reps, my mistake


[02-Aug-19 11:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also BOJO The Clown now only has a majority of 1 in parliament after one of his party member MPs go deselected for trying to fraud MP expenses and they thought it was a good idea to let that same MP run in his area again. Hope something else happens to end that majority. only takes one more dirty MP getting caught to sink the ship.


[02-Aug-19 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump won't get impeached, too late


[02-Aug-19 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If the democrats fuck it up, and they'll fuck it up because they always do, it'd guarantee a Trump reelection


[02-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are more extreme politically than they will let on


[02-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why polls look good for moderates


[02-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Millennials hate political moderates


[02-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But they also don't do polls


[02-Aug-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/ckwef3/one_of_the_gravel_teens_goes_mask_off_lmao/evs8520/

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r/ChapoTrapHouse - One of the Gravel teens goes mask off lmao
7,029 votes and 933 comments so far on Reddit
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[02-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God fuck off Bill


[02-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bill?


[02-Aug-19 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Probably Bill Maher


[02-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also the debate really was bizarre


[02-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Americans don't want to lose their private insurance!"


[02-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck off mate


[02-Aug-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, he looks like Bill from KoTH


[02-Aug-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
oh


[02-Aug-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/8vgv59wmlt631.jpg

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[02-Aug-19 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like someone offers you a free home, and some twat goes "americans don't want to lose their rental contract, they like their landlords"


[02-Aug-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck that, give me the free home


[02-Aug-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But americans like having their wallets stolen at gun point, police shouldnt arrest muggers, it takes away the option of having thme taken"


[02-Aug-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or people say "poor people don't want free shit they want better jobs"


[02-Aug-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But then you fuck over any labor movements


[02-Aug-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of which, finished my internship


[02-Aug-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congrats


[02-Aug-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope things move forward positively for you


[02-Aug-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thank you


[02-Aug-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The experience was worth it


[03-Aug-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Americans don't want to lose their doctors


[03-Aug-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
But that's like... a non-concern with M4A


[03-Aug-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
since _every doctor_ would be part of the system


[03-Aug-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But if we just give americans healthcare then they wont get what they really crave, to die from not affording medicine!"


[03-Aug-19 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d74cd684e7c84217a4246e76f2aedfda

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Dallas officers: Jokes during deadly arrest were 'strategy'
DALLAS (AP) — Two Dallas police officers involved in the arrest of a 911 caller who died in their custody told commanders they mocked the handcuffed man as part of a "strategy" to get him to...
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[03-Aug-19 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Aug-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking https://i.imgur.com/TLoICzX.jpg

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Why don’t you fucking idealists get behind the pragmatic candidate
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[03-Aug-19 12:29 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] and this is a good thing?


[03-Aug-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's satire


[03-Aug-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[03-Aug-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
John Delaney is a moron


[03-Aug-19 12:29 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Everything is satire to you


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You downplay everything


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Dude I linked a twitter post from _THE ONION_


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
GADDAMMIT


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
How could that not be _ANY LESS SATIRE_


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
FUCK THE ONION


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Argh!


[03-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ayy lmao


[03-Aug-19 12:31 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
:trixdisgust:


[03-Aug-19 12:35 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] I was talking about that Facebook article


[03-Aug-19 12:35 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Damn Discord not having a proper reply function


[03-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
No it's a terrible thing


[03-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook ought to be regulated out of existence


[03-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I have no shred of respect for the company or its employees


[03-Aug-19 12:37 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Neither do i


[03-Aug-19 12:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It should be labeled as a national security threat


[03-Aug-19 12:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They're are shameless with their malpractices


[03-Aug-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook is a threat to global stability


[03-Aug-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Not just national security


[03-Aug-19 12:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
True


[03-Aug-19 12:40 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Zuckerberg has repeatedly shown he has a utter lack of decency. And has every intention of pushing for the worst of a technocratic dystopia
Remember. This is the same guy who worked with the Chinese government to develop software that is being used to oppress their citizens, especially ethnic minorities like the Uighurs in Western China


[03-Aug-19 12:41 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Facebook is a spy agency


[03-Aug-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook is a deeply fraudulent business


[03-Aug-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It goes back to the very beginning, too, when it was created as a way for Zuck and his buddies to rate the hottest girls in the dorms


[03-Aug-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Each further change the platform has made since then has inched it deeper into the pit


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Yet. They're still growing....


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Unprecedented rate too


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That is mostly because they have a monopoly


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
What viable alternatives can you name?


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Talking to people


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
In person


[03-Aug-19 12:43 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This.


[03-Aug-19 12:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But today's world revolves around the ibternet


[03-Aug-19 12:44 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's easier said than done


[03-Aug-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Why would you depend on a single multi billion dollar corporation to do something you could have done with the post, or over the phone, or even talked to in person


[03-Aug-19 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook and Instagram are trying to capitalize on "shared experiences"... but can you really do that if you're not there?


[03-Aug-19 12:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Exactly


[03-Aug-19 12:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's a fake experience


[03-Aug-19 12:45 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
People care too much about too many things that are happening all over the world


[03-Aug-19 12:46 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
When we really should prioritize things that are local and immediate to us


[03-Aug-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
facebook has created so many negative externalities as well


[03-Aug-19 12:46 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Our priorities are misplaced


[03-Aug-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
consider "Instagram influencers"


[03-Aug-19 12:46 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] such as inciting animosity between groups


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They profit off this chaos


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Artificial chaos


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
who... take pictures in front of things, with their cellphone cameras, and expect to profit from it as if they were an advertiser


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
when really they are nobody


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's easy to manipulate photos


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
People are inclined to show their bests. And only their best facade


[03-Aug-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Facebook is full of massive ad fraud


[03-Aug-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
They claim to their investors and the government that they have it under control


[03-Aug-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
They don't


[03-Aug-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
They are just fighting not to admit it


[03-Aug-19 12:48 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I can say the same for Twitter


[03-Aug-19 12:49 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Society needs to start putting down their foot


[03-Aug-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We live in a society

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[03-Aug-19 12:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Society SUX


[03-Aug-19 12:52 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We live in a Soyciety


[03-Aug-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/AsGDqWl/comment/1693057163>


[03-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[03-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>wiretapping libra


[03-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
When I first heard about Libra on the news, the first thought that came to my head was "FB wants to track your purchases"


[03-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*Look where we are*


[03-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My first thought was "why would anyone use Facebook Bux"


[03-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then I remembered "orite, real world"


[03-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also they should have called it Facebucks


[03-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/take-texas-seriously-gop-anxiety-spikes-after-retirements-democratic-gains/2019/08/02/d9e9942c-b4b8-11e9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html?utm_term=.bb1057e5c021


[03-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Take Texas Seriously" doesn't have a ring to it


[03-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I could see hubris flipping the state like what happened to Dems in 2016


[03-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.fo/aW031

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‘Take Texas seriously’: GOP anxiety spikes after retirements, ...
archived 2 Aug 2019 21:53:34 UTC
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[03-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/JjW5DZ4

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I'm thinking the answer is yes
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[03-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/2PRR5Ab.jpg

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[03-Aug-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Dude looks like linus sebastian


[03-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
"Give all you have to the poor and follow me" ~Jesus or some shit


[03-Aug-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The sort of mental gymnastics the WASPs have to do to call believe that they're good christians are impressive


[03-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49212115

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Space agency chief out amid deforestation row
The head of Brazil's space research institute had accused President Jair Bolsonaro of "cowardice".
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[03-Aug-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/UR8hOmb

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Everybody STOP making these! Mitch HATES it.
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[03-Aug-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
> And under no circumstance should you fax the image to his DC office at (202) 224-2499


[03-Aug-19 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd be an awfully mean thing to do


[03-Aug-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Not that anyone asked, but here's a "fax-friendly" version that should be nicely readable on the other side: https://i.imgur.com/u9LPcWw.png

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[03-Aug-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mentioned this earlier and i love it


[03-Aug-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
run out his office budget by faxing this!


[03-Aug-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/thousands-sign-petition-immature-child-13945538?fbclid=IwAR1naa65lo6IMcIumVLX0j2hiCHyYqLeY2lG-yW0MwSyJId5O5Ff6e3dyec

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Thousands sign petition after 'immature' child sex abuser let off
Campaigners are demanding a review of the absolute discharged dished out to Christopher Daniel, who abused a six-year-old girl for two years.
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[03-Aug-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We can;t charge him, it might damage his future career as a dentist"


[03-Aug-19 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"It showed he also placed importance on the damage a conviction could do to Daniel's future career as a dentist."


[03-Aug-19 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God


[03-Aug-19 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time I see this sort of reason used I want to murder the people involved


[03-Aug-19 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They couldn't charge me, a conviction would damage my future career as the president of the world


[03-Aug-19 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess if i murder the sheriff i might be let go charge free because it might ruin my future career as a murderer


[03-Aug-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9e8b17ebd6114a3d96a74c2d4bb6f56a

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Civil servants join Hong Kong protests as Beijing accuses US
HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong civil servants and supporters crowded into a public park Friday to join a pro-democracy movement that China's top diplomat accused Western nations of...
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[03-Aug-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*insert eric andre meme here*


[03-Aug-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're gonna have new memes about the Hong Kong massacre never having happened, aren't we


[03-Aug-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff naw, i want the opposite to happen, just make all the memes about it happenign to piss off the chinese government


[03-Aug-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
memes have the power to piss people off, we should be using this


[03-Aug-19 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People have gone to labour camps for posting Pooh memes


[03-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
stock market is dropping like a rock until big daddy trump says it's all going to be ok


[03-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
again


[03-Aug-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I make the best tariff decisions, our trades have never been helthier!" *stocks keep dropping but faster now*


[03-Aug-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon wait they let him off because he wanted to be a _dentist_


[03-Aug-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[03-Aug-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, someone who will constantly be dealing with people under the influence of gas


[03-Aug-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they worried having a sexual abuse criminal record would ruin his career as a dentist


[03-Aug-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of thinking "Hey, maybe this child molester shouldn;t be a dentist"


[03-Aug-19 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember that Markus Hartenbach aka Sepulchre aka Dentist wanted to be a dentist


[03-Aug-19 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who?


[03-Aug-19 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
really makes you think


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some twat that's been doxxing and threatning to kill pony and furry artists for 6 years now


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All because a pony artist didn't reciprocate his creepy romantic advances


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, a german nazi


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
35


[03-Aug-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That lives with his mother


[03-Aug-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck even


[03-Aug-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And can't leave her because he's completely disfunctional


[03-Aug-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was this the pornasprite guy


[03-Aug-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[03-Aug-19 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whatg is with abusive fucknuts wanting to be dentists


[03-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pornasprite guy, I forget his name, was obsessed with bluntwhiskey


[03-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because she didn't want to make his porn for free


[03-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God I can't watch Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer the same way again now


[03-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So he went on to send her death threats against her family, leak all her folios, and shitpost for a solid year on /mlp/ to rile that board of morons into hating her


[03-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
.c pornasprite


[03-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
There are 195 images matching the query "pornasprite". (0.01026% out of 1900332 images)


[03-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That tag is almost entirely from requests and commissions from that guy


[03-Aug-19 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
had a big thing for parasprites apparently


[03-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now a Star Trek fan I bet


[03-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still nothing on Drinky


[03-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are he was the first to come up with the idea of strapping a horsecock onto a parasprite, someone said they liked it, and it got to his head


[03-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew, drinky kraw


[03-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would be surprised if he's not in prison


[03-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again, with this admin...


[03-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is paheal still a thing


[03-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[03-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I remember he was the only one under 50 running that site


[03-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just remember he became admin of Octabooru just to harass Purple Tinker


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof, octabooru


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So much salt


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Purple Tinker is not a good person though


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's a lodestar for this fandom


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, they're trash


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She has not changed a bit since 2012


[03-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She has learned nothing


[03-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PT is a fucking awful person and has the personality of an oily shit dripping down a wall


[03-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminds that that fucking joke of a person KNA exists


[03-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
god damn, this fandom has had so many vile people in it


[03-Aug-19 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is KNA?


[03-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
kick-neckbeard-ass


[03-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
An apparently former tumblrite that was part of the original bronycon staff along with Purple Tinker


[03-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apart from being a wretch of a human being for their social politics, spent half a decade chasing PT around slandering her at every opportunity


[03-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Including for PT being trans


[03-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, not so former, <https://kick-neckbeard-ass.tumblr.com/>


[03-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I haven't seen anything they've posted in the last ~3 years


[03-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But chances are they're still the same rancid piece of shit as before


[03-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Socalponygal


[03-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's who she is now


[03-Aug-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope that took 2 seconds on his tumblr to tell me he is a rancid douche


[03-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, she still is awful


[03-Aug-19 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think there wasalso a lily pete but i;m unsure if that's pony fandom or just sjw drama


[03-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They became popular during pony, yes


[03-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Used to be known as bhaalspawn and valkyrie studios


[03-Aug-19 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
During pony they were one of those episode reviewers


[03-Aug-19 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[03-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They weren't known much until the Down With Molestia drama, when they initially pretended to be "neutral and enlightened", and eventually went full white knight


[03-Aug-19 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her video on steven universe keeps popping up in my youtube feed...


[03-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, he tried this on derpibooru


[03-Aug-19 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god that drama


[03-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where I could see that he was posting images of DWM ponysona's getting raped


[03-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So he could go complain about it on his tumblr


[03-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As well as using multiple accounts and as-anon to post about himself


[03-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And have conversations with himself


[03-Aug-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good he's one of those


[03-Aug-19 05:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His special brand of recalcitrant stupidity and constant denial of reality gained him a following of sycophants


[03-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh I forgot


[03-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Before DWM he was also a fic writer


[03-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His most popular works in the fandom were mostly about incest, rape, and underage incest rape


[03-Aug-19 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[03-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After DWM when people started pointing that little discordance out he wiped them and pretended they never happened


[03-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Despite them being archived in multiple places


[03-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most DWM people, the loud ones at least, were like this


[03-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Alt accounts for rape and underage porn


[03-Aug-19 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"IT only counts as bad when people i don't like do it guys! give me fame!"


[03-Aug-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even now she focuses so, so, so much on underage lesbian relationships


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like talking about lesbian toddlers


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://the-smiling-pony.tumblr.com/post/170190843608/httpsarchonixtumblrcompost170183242204kleon>


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, it still gets me


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That this little shit would be that brazen


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No the thing that gets me the most is Jeremy Whitley


[03-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least he put his money where his mouth was


[03-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And quit once he got replaced by a woman


[03-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And how pissy they got when called out on <https://derpibooru.org/434414#comment_1859030> because we had _actual moderation_ instead of a call center in India


[03-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, what happened with Whitley


[03-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude vanished off my radar 3y ago


[03-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, I really wish comment links were working for me


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it didnt send me to a specific comment


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a bug


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I already reported it


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
just keep in mind TaraCallie Peet's girlfriend


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
it won't take you to the comment unless it's on the first page on however you have your comments configured


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imaginary girlfriend


[03-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
AKA it's Peet


[03-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
since you can change the number of comments per page


[03-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When people started asking him questions about "her", he killed her off by stating she was a pedophile and got arrested


[03-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately he forgot that Tara was still his main account on some other sites, which he kept using to update fanfics about himself


[03-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yes, he writes fanfics about himself


[03-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whitley last wrote a comic in September 2018


[03-Aug-19 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a dtwist


[03-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Quite notably he dropped off after Hasbro put their foot down and demand a soft reboot of the comics


[03-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As well as this completely absurd power fantasy thing where all his OCs are literally giga-Hitler that mass murder trillions of people because someone pissed them off, but they're all uwu trans/lesbian with deep issues


[03-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, not just people


[03-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All he wants is gratuitous underage lesbianism punctuated by brutal murder of real villains


[03-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His OC also kills God, and every god


[03-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile the villains that swap the good milk with the rotten milk get to stay


[03-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's important to keep in mind


[03-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there are people that read that


[03-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And think it's cool and engaging


[03-Aug-19 05:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i;d rather read a ken penders comic


[03-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just glad Whitley isn't doing shit for the comic now


[03-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you ever read the Jay Fosgitt retrospective on his time on MLP, @Teaspoon


[03-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://totv.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_Ryder

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Lord Ryder
"I don't waste time trying to understand the Master, Ellie. Last time I did, he taught me a permanent lesson on my face." - Sutanu F'thar Lord Valithria Ryder is the Warlord of the Val'kyr and the...
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/totv/images/8/8e/Ryd-shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20180906213223


[03-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.fanbasepress.com/index.php/press/interviews/between-the-panels/item/9829-between-the-panels-artist-jay-fosgitt-on-good-comic-covers-licensed-properties-and-soda-addiction

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Fanbase Press - Between the Panels: Artist Jay Fosgitt on Good Com...
“Between the Panels” is a bi-weekly interview series focusing on comic book creators of all experience levels, seeking to examine not just what each i...


[03-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I did not


[03-Aug-19 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm glad the sonic comics are now with idw where ken penders cant touch them


[03-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(.fandom link is to peet's OC)


[03-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"My biggest challenge working on MLP was my lack of familiarity with the property. I knew the toys and cartoon from my childhood, but the modern incarnation was totally foreign to me. And I was brought onto the comics so quickly that I really didn't have time to educate myself as thoroughly as I would have liked. I know I was one of the few creators to work on the series who wasn't a fan--I had nothing against the concept, I just wasn't a fan--so that was both an asset and a detriment. It gave me a sort of freedom to play around and not be too precious about the material, but it also drew the ire of a certain faction of die-hard fans who wanted their idealized vision of the characters, whatever that may have been. In the end, it was a job for me, and because IDW and Hasbro had next to no problems with my work, that was good enough for me."


[03-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a shitheel


[03-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Drawing characters on model and not stealing from Google Images is now idealized


[03-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was hated by everyone else on staff though


[03-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They knew he was phoning it in.


[03-Aug-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only people who got upset at Pencils getting on staff were Cook, Price, and Mebberson


[03-Aug-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Price really had any impact from what I hear


[03-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why'd they even care


[03-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fear of being upstaged?


[03-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Icky fans getting too near?


[03-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cook yes


[03-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mebberson just hates all people who can't help her career mainly because she doesn't want to get sued by the Mouse who has given her lots of good stuff


[03-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Price idk, but it's mainly "fans should only make limited edition covers"


[03-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this the same Price that made DC comics fetish art


[03-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[03-Aug-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also gave up super hard when it comes to his art


[03-Aug-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not that he ever tried unless he liked the characters


[03-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His Student Six comic was hilariously bad, probably the worst he's done ever


[03-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I stopped caring about the comics ages ago


[03-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Once they went the whole "separate continuity" thing


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the nightmare rarity issue


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were good from about 2012-14


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where it was so clear they were just making shit up without talking to the show writers


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Got better in 2017


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
After Hasbro told them to stop


[03-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What happened to the dragon girl


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mina?


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The one from the "my little chocolate daughter" writer


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wow so okay Whitley


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Refused to watch anything with Ember in it


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doubt he knows about Smolder


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Smolder would upset him more


[03-Aug-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he complained the show didn't use his ideas


[03-Aug-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He thought one of his OCs who redeemed two separate Sombras was better than Twilight


[03-Aug-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like dude you couldn't even give your OC the correct cutie mark for being a healer


[03-Aug-19 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
is cuteo still a thing


[03-Aug-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not really


[03-Aug-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ponett kinda is


[03-Aug-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember they really got harassed by /v/ for a while


[03-Aug-19 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ponett made that super lesbian horse game and then reskinned it, right?


[03-Aug-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes to generic furries


[03-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Earthbound ruined a generation of game design


[03-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Undertale is the one exception


[03-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You are not Itoi or Fox


[03-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You are the YIIK guy at best


[03-Aug-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/WwCKPhlyU5M

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crowfeathers
https://youtu.be/WwCKPhlyU5M
YIIK: golden alpaca boss fight (unedited)
nobody would believe me so here it is. this is the worst combat i've ever experienced in any rpg. i fucking hate it and i hate alex eagleston
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WwCKPhlyU5M/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Aug-19 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth am I watching


[03-Aug-19 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
is this a ytp


[03-Aug-19 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gosh this is bad


[03-Aug-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Might be layers of irony here


[03-Aug-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Down to the dev playing s character


[03-Aug-19 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comedy in games should be rare unless you're actually fucking good


[03-Aug-19 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People at work keep telling me I should put more jokes and funny stuff in


[03-Aug-19 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't get that a joke work great the first time


[03-Aug-19 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe the second time if there's been a long enough time after


[03-Aug-19 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it doesn't when every 6th interaction with an object you get the same quip


[03-Aug-19 02:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/4orJLbZ.jpg

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[03-Aug-19 02:37 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I think the biggest problem with the comics back then is they often go further up their own asses


[03-Aug-19 02:37 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Especially when they do big “epic” adventures


[03-Aug-19 02:38 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
The small scale SoL stuff is... usually fine


[03-Aug-19 02:38 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
That said I still miss the Friends Forever line


[03-Aug-19 05:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/hong-kong-protest-mong-kok-intl-hnk/index.html

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Riot police fire tear gas to disperse Hong Kong protesters: Live u...
Hong Kong police are moving to disperse protesters after another weekend of mass demonstrations. Follow here for the latest.
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[03-Aug-19 05:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/FOX4/status/1157409690818494465

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https://twitter.com/FOX4/status/1157409690818494465
BREAKING: Arlington PD has just released the body camera of the moments an officer fatally shot a woman while aiming at a loose dog. https://t.co/5FbeH1P6hP https://t.co/rGdZUWqJ2h
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Twitter


[03-Aug-19 05:44 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/LXanflorp/status/1157417475551744012

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https://twitter.com/LXanflorp/status/1157417475551744012
@FOX4 I run every day, on back roads in the country. I run into aggressive stray dogs every. single. day, without fail. I’ve never so much as kicked one of them. 

This motherfucker drew down on a fucking dog that barked at him.

This is negligent homicide. He belongs in...
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[03-Aug-19 05:49 PM] Pretty#9306
unfortunate


[03-Aug-19 06:04 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-warned-sweden-negative-consequences-if-asap-rocky-wasn-n1038961

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U.S. warned Sweden of 'negative consequences' if ASAP Rocky wasn't...
The rapper landed back on U.S. soil Saturday, leaving behind him the looming verdict in an episode that has led to unexpected tension between the U.S. and its European ally.
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[03-Aug-19 06:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
Imagine ruining an alliance over a rapper


[03-Aug-19 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dafuq


[03-Aug-19 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of when Libya and Switzerland had a hostage crisis back in 2009-2010


[03-Aug-19 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mostly caused by Muammar Gaddafi


[03-Aug-19 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Swiss army almost implemented a plan to rescue the hostages by force, Bond-esque


[03-Aug-19 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw i knew ASAP Rocky and his music before the diplomatic crisis happened so i'm a true hipster 😎


[03-Aug-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/03/trump-impeachment-majority-house-democrats-now-support-inquiry/1909166001/

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Majority of House Democrats now back a Trump impeachment inquiry, ...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been reluctant to move on impeachment of Donald Trump but it may be harder to avoid now that most Democrats support it.
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[03-Aug-19 07:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-goes-full-marianne-williamson-on-antidepressants?ref=home

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Bill Maher Goes Full Marianne Williamson
While critics have tried to paint the 2020 candidate as a “crazy lady,” Maher declared, “I agree with everything.”
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[03-Aug-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-19 08:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Aug-19 08:17 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Aug-19 08:18 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Aug-19 08:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is such a great book about office and school shootings.


[03-Aug-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just realized the Gilroy shooter was Iranian-American


[03-Aug-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what JonTron thinks about this, considering he thinks violence is innate.


[03-Aug-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think he'll blame the guy's Italian heritage before his shared Iranian one


[03-Aug-19 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Have you hear of Sacco and Vanzetti? I tell ya those Italian Leftists sure are something. Down with Cuminusts!"


[03-Aug-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm pretty sure he didn't actually believe any of what he said lol


[03-Aug-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He stopped talking politics because he realized he was dumb.


[03-Aug-19 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Commulism is best ideology thank you JonTron


[03-Aug-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, JonTron thinks black people are violent innately.


[03-Aug-19 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
No


[03-Aug-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said rich blacks commit more crimes than poor whites


[03-Aug-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was eliminating poverty as a reason people commit crime


[03-Aug-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was implying they do it because they are black


[03-Aug-19 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC Jon comes from a rather racist neighborhood in San Diego


[03-Aug-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Speaking of shootings, https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

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El Paso, Texas police say they are responding to an active shooter
Police in El Paso, Texas, are responding Saturday to an active shooter in the area of the Cielo Vista Mall, the agency tweeted.
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[03-Aug-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
He's a popular YouTuber and tried to act like he knew anything about politics


[03-Aug-19 08:29 PM] Mikey#7286
And was baited by a far right internet talking head


[03-Aug-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Iranian emigres, and emigres in general, can become racist like this


[03-Aug-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His parents probably fed him this stuff


[03-Aug-19 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon

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[03-Aug-19 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We the best country


[03-Aug-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man I really hope those G5 leaks are true as an aside


[03-Aug-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really want him to voice the villain


[03-Aug-19 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait what


[03-Aug-19 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
DJ Khaled in MLP?


[03-Aug-19 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or JonTron?


[03-Aug-19 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm being stooped here, sorry


[03-Aug-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DJ Khaled


[03-Aug-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is going on


[03-Aug-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry I'm going off topic


[03-Aug-19 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/9O5mRqlrf4g

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YTP Dennis Prager fixes the public education system REMASTER
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[03-Aug-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shooting's gone from "injuries" to "multiple deaths" now


[03-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thots and prayers


[03-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yay now everything is better!


[03-Aug-19 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
18 dead so far


[03-Aug-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
Oh lord


[03-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Could this man *be* a bigger idiot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGC6ogXSzY

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[03-Aug-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnHq_u4fla0

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Active Shooter Situation In El Paso, TX, Police Have 'Reports Of M...
An active shooter near the area of a shopping mall in El Paso is drawing a response from multiple law enforcement agencies, including the FBI. El Paso police...
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[03-Aug-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was an hour ago


[03-Aug-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVlOHFuh-60 and this is live coverage

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Watch live: Police respond to active shooter near El Paso mall
Watch live coverage as police and local authorities respond to an active shooter situation near Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, Texas. » Subscribe to NBC News: ...
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[03-Aug-19 10:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
<Eyes glowing with the intensity of the new light given to me by Going Postal>


[03-Aug-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently the shooter is, surprise surprise, a white supremacist who happened to post a manifesto before the act


[03-Aug-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1157743723524055042

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https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1157743723524055042
Scrap that. Manifesto likely legit. It was posted to 8Chan before the first EMS call. The El Paso shooter expresses many far-right views in the manifesto and says his main reason for this shooting was basically that he hates Hispanic immigrants. This is him at the scene.
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[03-Aug-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again, apparently


[03-Aug-19 11:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, thank god he's not a terrorist.


[03-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
/s


[03-Aug-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he has a manifesto


[03-Aug-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every shooter has a manifesto now


[03-Aug-19 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"DEAR LIBTARDS,
I HATE BROWN PEOPLE
SIGNED,
SOME DUDE WHO'S GONNA SHOOT SOME BROWN PEOPLE"


[03-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said gamers rise up as he was shooting


[03-Aug-19 11:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A true gamer


[03-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would anyone go to 8chan now when it's such an obvious honeypot


[03-Aug-19 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because the right can't meme


[03-Aug-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius/

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Patrick Crusius: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Patrick Crusius was named as the suspect in the shooting at Walmart near Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, Texas.
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/2019-08-03.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780


[04-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Hispanic invasion


[04-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh


[04-Aug-19 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Inspired by Tarrant huh


[04-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Alt right terrorest attacks.


[04-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Man.


[04-Aug-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researchers-hack-surveillance-systems-to-show-fake-video-feed/

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Researchers Hack Surveillance Systems to Show Fake Video Feed
Security researchers analyzing the security flaws present in IoT devices used in smart buildings were able to replace the real video feeds with arbitrary footage.
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[04-Aug-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1157761108805115905

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In the middle of frantically tweeting out that the El Paso shooting was a coordinated Antifa terrorist attack, Brenden Dilley's account was suspended.
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[04-Aug-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Aug-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🧠


[04-Aug-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
its big brain time


[04-Aug-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://memepedia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/markiplier-meme-768x453.png

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[04-Aug-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they is has braned the big own


[04-Aug-19 03:06 AM] Mikey#7286
markimoo


[04-Aug-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are has orned the lobs wid are big con brans, it clarly ANTIFA and not a lone shooter


[04-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
https://youtu.be/gkCu4VBvkKI

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OnlyABot
https://youtu.be/gkCu4VBvkKI
Yeah, this is big brain time clip.
You can find it around the 10:00 minute mark in Baldi’s Basics birthday bash.
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[04-Aug-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
fake news misinformation account gets suspended, conservatives lose their minds


[04-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always worth going to places like breitbart to check the comments and get an idea of what your average GOP voter thinks


[04-Aug-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
are you sure that's the average?


[04-Aug-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
comments, due to voluntary response bias, do tend to be biased towards the most vocal responses


[04-Aug-19 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and the most vocal responses are usually also pretty radical


[04-Aug-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More people are like Breitbart/8chan and Chapo/Mother Jones than they will admit.


[04-Aug-19 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The average is radical


[04-Aug-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is a moderate when they think their real views will hurt them.


[04-Aug-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[04-Aug-19 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that actually change their minds or listen to others' views with an open mind are rare


[04-Aug-19 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
still, the stuff I see on breitbart is kind of concerning


[04-Aug-19 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if I'm being honest, I don't like comments sections of news sites


[04-Aug-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you


[04-Aug-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are way more extreme than they will admit


[04-Aug-19 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they're just always circlejerks


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and anyone with a dissenting opinion, no matter how well-reasoned, is immediately dismissed as a "libtard" (breitbart/fox) or "trumptard" (mother jones) or [insert some token political insult here]


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You fail to understand


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People go into the circlejerk more often than they admit


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, not gonna lie, it is fun to do so


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like how millionaires say they are middle class


[04-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying you are a moderate looks good


[04-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then you vote for the socialist or nationalist


[04-Aug-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Most places I've been to, calling yourself as a centrist is grounds for being dismissed as a "pussy"


[04-Aug-19 04:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I get that it looks good in general, though


[04-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every white criminal is actually an antifa dem communist ordered by the Soros - Clinton controlled FBI, or a mentally ill individual affected by poor parenting caused by dem policies and drugs that was influenced to attack by recent democratic rarara-ing


[04-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything is a false flag


[04-Aug-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't even know what a false flag is


[04-Aug-19 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
do they still harp on about "shillary " with her "emails" and her "Benghazi"?


[04-Aug-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever the shooting's in a blue state, they sperg about "But I thought it was a gun free zone!" or "See, no guns, easy targets!"


[04-Aug-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever it's in a red state, it's about concealed weapons


[04-Aug-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever there's a photo and name of the killer, they make believe "He doesn't look white" "That name's actually hispanic"


[04-Aug-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(trust me, this dude's name isn't hispanic at all)


[04-Aug-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Political moderation is a relic of the Boomers. People like Joe Biden. People post that don't like it because compromise means losing.


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, I kinda think myself as in the middle but leaning left


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The problem is this isn't just random braindamaged posters on 8chan or /pol/


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's the general electorate, yeah


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's people that'll gladly post these things of facebook or other places with their full name, job/employer, and photo


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem is facebook


[04-Aug-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[04-Aug-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And elected officials that know their electorate believe the same shit


[04-Aug-19 04:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I hate that a large amount of republicans will always back trump even as he stoops lower and lower


[04-Aug-19 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, false flag is when something is done pretending it was done by the other side


[04-Aug-19 04:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
trump's approval rating rn hovers around 40%.
70-80% of Republicans approve


[04-Aug-19 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In this case, false flag would refer to the shooter being a card-carry democrat or whatever and just pretending to be a radical right winger in order to unjustly make the right look bad


[04-Aug-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh right, because everything that makes your side look bad *must* be fake


[04-Aug-19 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or that the shooting never actually happened and it's all just "crisis actors" organized by Soros/Clinton/The Jews


[04-Aug-19 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
everything that makes the other side look good must *also* be a fake


[04-Aug-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that a majority of House Democrats support impeachment


[04-Aug-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or an inquiry


[04-Aug-19 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, "majority", maybe, but it's still only hovering around 50-60%


[04-Aug-19 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and almost no Republicans will


[04-Aug-19 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
meaning that we are very far away from an actual majority (we're like 30% there tops)


[04-Aug-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and won't a failed impeachment really help out Trump


[04-Aug-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
seeing as that was what happened with Bill


[04-Aug-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't like the guy and I would like to see him out of office, but I think that's going to happen by election, not impeachment


[04-Aug-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah that was an outlier with Clinton


[04-Aug-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't perjury over a BJ


[04-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wouldn't be successful but it would make the GOP look awful for not removing


[04-Aug-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it would make the GOP look awful... to everyone outside of the GOP


[04-Aug-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when it was revealed that a fuck ton of the mexican border guards had a facebook group made for the express purpose of being racist shitdicks, a conservative came out and was like


[04-Aug-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
isn't that already kind of true?


[04-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Enough people to swing it


[04-Aug-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And hurdle the turtle


[04-Aug-19 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Clearly it;s jsut thousands of democrats trying to make republicans look bad"


[04-Aug-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
man, reagan wasn't great, but he at least he TRIED to justify his (failed) supply-side economics with some economic basis (Laffer Curve)


[04-Aug-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump's economic policy is just "fuck anyone who isn't white"


[04-Aug-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how did it come to this


[04-Aug-19 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"or rich"


[04-Aug-19 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Or living off a nearby water supply"


[04-Aug-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but screw reagan anyway for removing the need for news to stay unbiased in the wake of major events


[04-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump's disdain for suburbia will hurt him.


[04-Aug-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he created these political circlejerks 35 years ago


[04-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbia does not identify with rural America


[04-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It identifies with urban America, see how Texas was in 2018


[04-Aug-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reagan created a quick burner for communism but in doing so he created a slow burner on capitalism


[04-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It used to be blue dots surrounded by red donuts


[04-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now it is blue dots surrounded by purple donuts and then red around that


[04-Aug-19 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reagan destroyed the very economic structure he saught to save


[04-Aug-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
speaking of elections: there was one infographic somewhere that got a good chortle out of me for how fucking dumb it was

it noted that Trump was the choice of  "most of America" because he "carried more states"


[04-Aug-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
completely ignoring the fact he lost the popular vote


[04-Aug-19 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he only won the elctoral college because he won the "right" states


[04-Aug-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what was the point of the electoral college


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If land votes why shouldn't the ocean?


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary meanwhile got cocky and only campaigned in rich states with rich donors


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, it was made for a reason, obviously


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but what


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keeping down the "tyranny of the majority"


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I know that the founding fathers hated majority rule


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which does not exist


[04-Aug-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My "favorite" founding fathers was Jefferson


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, you can kinda see why they feared the "mob"


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Shays's Rebellion


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially it was mainly used when america only had 13 fucking colonies


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but nonetheless


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The biggest faux pas you could make at Monticello was to point out how his slaves looked like Jefferson lel


[04-Aug-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
isn't the minority usually MORE tyrannical


[04-Aug-19 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A majority cannot be a tyranny (numbers not anything connected to race etc)


[04-Aug-19 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was never emant to be a permanent rule, later when voting evolved a lot of really awful rules got made sot he rich coudl still control a lot of it behidn the scenes


[04-Aug-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they probably feared that the majority would completely oppress the minority


[04-Aug-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
legitimate concern, I guess


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but a minority controlling a majority is even more oppressive


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
*sigh* the US's mentality changed


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but the rules haven't


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
founding fathers hated equality


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they likely didnt see america getting bigger than atleast 20 colonies


[04-Aug-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
now the US is trying to fight for it


[04-Aug-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a system where you can win an election despite having a minority of the votes is just absurd


[04-Aug-19 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the founding fathers were a mixed bag, they liked religious, and class equality, but slaves were a thing  and women were still in the kitchen so gender, and racial equality werent as important back then


[04-Aug-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I really don't think they liked class equality at all


[04-Aug-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think I saw an old piece of art that opposed the French Revolution because it promoted "equality"


[04-Aug-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleadt the original settlers liked it


[04-Aug-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the founding fathers saw themselves as superior to the "mob"


[04-Aug-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which is why we can only directly vote for 1/3 of our government


[04-Aug-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and it used to be 1/6 until an amendment


[04-Aug-19 04:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(17)


[04-Aug-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m confused now


[04-Aug-19 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the original constitution had it so that only members of the house of representatives could be elected by popular vote


[04-Aug-19 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
SCOTUS justices were appointed, senate was something else that I don't remember, and the POTUS had the electoral college


[04-Aug-19 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the senate was changed to be popular vote by the 17th amendment


[04-Aug-19 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.


[04-Aug-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
talking about the law is all pretty meaningless in a system where the executive branch doesn't follow the law


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't matter what the constitution says; trump does whatever he wants


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
even if the link is getting increasingly tenuous, Trump's still bound by his voters


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
who's going to stop him


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's why we started talking about the electoral college


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a majority of the US didn't want him, yet he got voted in


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and proceeded to make a mess of things


[04-Aug-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
what makes you think trump's not going to have both feet on the ground in moscow on election night


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
and then conveniently decide to never return


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
this man has no regard for the law


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
and he is now in a position where he can simply ignore the law


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
it does not apply to him


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
emoluments? never heard of her


[04-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the first? what's that


[04-Aug-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
etc.


[04-Aug-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wait how is he disregarding the first amendment


[04-Aug-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
revoking official press passes for being asked questions


[04-Aug-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
almost daily attacks on the media, insinuating "fake news" and "enemy of the people"


[04-Aug-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
those are all scummy, but they are probably all *legal*


[04-Aug-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he just can't make a *law* saying "Republican circlejerk only"


[04-Aug-19 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like if he decides to stay in russia and never return after losing presidence, he wouldnt be useful to putin anymore and he woudl somehow be foudn dead soemwhere having "commited suicide"


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
how about earmarking funds for a purpose congress did not expressly authorize


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
not legal


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
But who's going to stop him


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the fact that congress doesn't even call him out anymore is just fucking stupid


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what happened to checks and balances


[04-Aug-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
directing Michael Cohen to lie under oath


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
illegal


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can thank mitch mcconnell for that


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and barr


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Obstruction of justice


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
illegal


[04-Aug-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
so so many things


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
layers and layers of sabotage is what happened to checks and balances


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I hate this country


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] Mikey#7286
fire Mitch


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, I *want* to like it


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
out of a cannon


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
into the sun


[04-Aug-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but this is ridiculous


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] Mikey#7286
or make him have a heart attack, it'd look like an accident, he's like 90 anyway


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
approx 40-50 years ago someone else did basically what trump did


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
except they got yeeted out of the WH for it


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
iirc he 45 called certain white house staff niggers during the time he was in office


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
there was the shithole countries incident


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
his history of sexual assault


[04-Aug-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
the god damn tapes backed it up


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump paid Cohen to lie and we have proof


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The turtle doesn't care


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
he called it fake news and his supporters ate it up


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump paid a lot of people to lie under oath


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because SCOTUS judges


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Once they overturn Roe it will be a dog who caught its tail


[04-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they'll make even Scalia cry by violating privacy rights


[04-Aug-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans are a power cult now


[04-Aug-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once trump goes, it will become a vacuum


[04-Aug-19 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a blakc hole scaled vacuum


[04-Aug-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's already a vacuum


[04-Aug-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
if trump and mcconnell died tomorrow the GOP would collapse


[04-Aug-19 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let;s hppe that happens


[04-Aug-19 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please


[04-Aug-19 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the love of god please


[04-Aug-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
considering that trump eats mcdonalds every day it's not that unlikely he could have a heart attack


[04-Aug-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please let mcconnell fall downj soem stairs


[04-Aug-19 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the russians will keep moscow mitch alive until he is no longer of use


[04-Aug-19 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please let putin fall down some stairs


[04-Aug-19 04:52 AM] Mikey#7286
they'll put another kremlin in his place


[04-Aug-19 04:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
please, for the love of god, don't assassinate trump
if you really so badly want him dead, let it happen normally


[04-Aug-19 04:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
assassinating him will lead to massive outrage


[04-Aug-19 04:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and it would screw over the Democrats


[04-Aug-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i owuld prefer mcdonalds laiden heart attack


[04-Aug-19 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
assassination is too good for him


[04-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Mikey#7286
ronald mcdonald mcconnel


[04-Aug-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think Trump should die, but that's just because I don't like wishing death on people unless they personally wish death on me too


[04-Aug-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I still really hate what he's doing to the US


[04-Aug-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if at all possib;le i'd like to see trump and mcconnell taken out non lethally through elections


[04-Aug-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that's a hard sell when they are both fighting so hard to keep security form interfering in russia;s election meddling


[04-Aug-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
> the russians will keep moscow mitch alive until he is no longer of use


[04-Aug-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I stand by what I said


[04-Aug-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the russians have a clone of mitch waiting in thwe wings just in case


[04-Aug-19 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be almost as if he never left at all


[04-Aug-19 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49224279

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Canadian resident escapes from Iran life sentence
Saeed Malekpour fled to Canada via a third country while on short-term release from jail.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/91A3/production/_98738273_8aa5c9de-411e-49fc-b872-2d50f0003eda.jpg


[04-Aug-19 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The web programmer was arrested in October 2008 while visiting his father, who was in poor health, in Iran.

He argued that the programme he created was open source and that it was used by other websites without his knowledge.

He was initially sentenced to death for "spreading corruption on earth". This was later commuted to life imprisonment, reportedly after he "repented".

During his imprisonment, Mr Malekpour was physically and psychologically tortured and spent more than a year in solitary confinement, according to Amnesty International.`


[04-Aug-19 07:56 AM] byte[]#2610
`Saeed Malekpour was sentenced to life in prison over a programme he created for uploading photos to the web that Iranian authorities said was used on Persian-language pornographic websites.`


[04-Aug-19 07:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I am glad I don't (yet) live in an actual theocracy


[04-Aug-19 08:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey guys, guess what?


[04-Aug-19 08:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Another mass shooting in the US!


[04-Aug-19 08:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/trending-now/police-responding-to-report-of-active-shooter-in-dayton-ohio/972611002

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Police responding to report of active shooter in Dayton, Ohio
Police in Dayton, Ohio, are responding to a report of an active shooter in the area of East Fifth Street in the Oregon District.
https://media-ncd.cmgdigital.com/photo/2019/08/04/Dayton%20shooting_1564900594411.jpeg_16065049_ver1.0_1280_720.jpg


[04-Aug-19 08:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Police scanner traffic has indicated that there may be as many as seven people dead`


[04-Aug-19 08:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fun


[04-Aug-19 08:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this a mass shooting at 2am in the fucking morning?>


[04-Aug-19 08:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[04-Aug-19 08:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[04-Aug-19 08:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No such thing as too late to keep the bloodline pure


[04-Aug-19 09:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet this guy will have some form of manifesto as well


[04-Aug-19 09:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have some Trump kissing Kim's asshole for the 80th time

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[04-Aug-19 09:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also Chariman


[04-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Charmander Kim


[04-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Scary that the most effective way to fake a Trump tweet is to make sure there are typos in it and that it must always include Trump congratulating Trump


[04-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1157306452228366336

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1157306452228366336
....Chariman Kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country, and only the United States, with me as President, can make that vision come true. He will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to, and he does not want to disappoint his friend, President Trum...
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[04-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157306442422136834

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1157306442422136834
Kim Jong Un and North Korea tested 3 short range missiles over the last number of days. These missiles tests are not a violation of our signed Singapore agreement, nor was there discussion of short range missiles when we shook hands. There may be a United Nations violation...
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[04-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
more concerning


[04-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
and it seems like it slipped through the cracks


[04-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's ok with them testing more missiles


[04-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
well, says he is


[04-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The mental gymnastics GOP members have to pull here to keep twirling on Trump's dick, damn


[04-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The president of the US is rushing to defend North Korea


[04-Aug-19 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well of course, he;s too much of a coward to call kim jong un out on his deal breaking


[04-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZikEVDqlzY

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Agenda-Free TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZikEVDqlzY
Shooting Reported in Dayton with Multiple Victims - LIVE COVERAGE
A shooting has been reported in Dayton, Ohio with unconfirmed reports of multiple victims. Get the latest details in our LIVE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE. Accordi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gZikEVDqlzY/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[04-Aug-19 10:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
so two shootings for one day again?


[04-Aug-19 11:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yep


[04-Aug-19 11:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49225916

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Iran seizes another tanker in the Gulf, media say
Iran seizes another foreign tanker in the Gulf, Iranian state media say.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/7A23/production/_97176213_breaking_news_bigger.png


[04-Aug-19 01:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US already has more mass shootings than days in the year. Is the US trying to set a new record this year?


[04-Aug-19 01:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Probably


[04-Aug-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate saying this, but i wonder how many mass shootings will happen today...


[04-Aug-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I also have a bad feeling Trump is aboutto say soemthing stupid that will make everything 100x worse...


[04-Aug-19 04:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Repasta

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[04-Aug-19 04:48 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Aug-19 05:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
guess what


[04-Aug-19 05:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
third shooting


[04-Aug-19 05:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
in Chicago now


[04-Aug-19 05:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Mass-Shooting-Near-Douglas-Park-Playground-Police-518001731.html

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7 Wounded In Shooting Near Playground in Douglas Park
Seven people were wounded in a shooting Sunday as they gathered in Douglas Park on the West Side.
https://media.nbcchicago.com/images/1200*675/BREAKING+NEWS+GRAPHIC+har.jpg


[04-Aug-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when i said i wonder how many mass shootings there will be today, i was hoping i wasn;t being serious...

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[04-Aug-19 05:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
wtf is wrong with these ppl


[04-Aug-19 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/607564784594059265/image.png

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[04-Aug-19 05:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Wikipedia supports mass shootings


[04-Aug-19 05:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:IlluminatiPepestan:


[04-Aug-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7cc3776ec5584c3b9376c486811a039e

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The Latest: WH says Trump 'saddened,' angry after shootings
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on Democratic presidential candidates and the shootings in Texas and Ohio (all times Eastern): 11:35 a.m. A top White House aide says President Donald...
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[04-Aug-19 06:13 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
thots and prayers


[04-Aug-19 06:13 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and proceed to do nothing


[04-Aug-19 06:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A whole bunch of thots, playas, and nuthin


[04-Aug-19 06:55 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"'No Way To Prevent This', Says Only Nation This Happens In"


[04-Aug-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6216726e4b6c4eee8a2811973a794c9e

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Report: Iran seizes tanker carrying 'smuggled fuel'
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iranian forces seized a ship in the Persian Gulf suspected of carrying smuggled fuel, state media reported Sunday, marking the Revolutionary Guard's third seizure of a vessel...
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[04-Aug-19 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1158032471495196677

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Brian Klaas (@brianklaas)
https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1158032471495196677
🇬🇧Pop. 65 million
🇺🇸Pop. 330 million (5x)

🇬🇧Video game revenues: ≈$5 billion 
🇺🇸Video game revenues: ≈$25 billion (5x)

🇬🇧Gun homicides (2017): 31
🇺🇸Gun homicides (2017): 14,542 (469x)

Stop blaming the video games you absolute moro...
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[04-Aug-19 07:33 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
People are *still* blaming the Vidya?


[04-Aug-19 07:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/08/03/beijing-is-prepping-for-a-massacre-in-hong-kong-time-for-the-west-to-put-human-rights-ahead-of-free-trade/

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Beijing is prepping for a massacre in Hong Kong: time for the West...
After eight weeks of huge Hong Kong street protests against Beijing’s rule, the People’s Republic is massing police and soldiers just across the border. Message: If the protesters don’t quit, a blo…
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[04-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1158024171252834305?s=20

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The Onion (@TheOnion)
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1158024171252834305?s=20
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens https://t.co/eEGvGUPObr
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[04-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
We're back here again


[04-Aug-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they need to add "thrice in one day" to that title now


[04-Aug-19 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1158081349674315776

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Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump)
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1158081349674315776
White supremacy, like all other forms of terrorism, is an evil that must be destroyed.
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[04-Aug-19 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1158064289816727553

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Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump)
https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1158064289816727553
Congress should enact Red Flag laws/ Extreme Risk Protection Orders in EVERY state and increase resources dedicated to mental health support. https://t.co/YWgccND8dH
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[04-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1158074774297468928

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Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson)
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1158074774297468928
In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than ...
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[04-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, *NOW* I see why this guy's Twitter is a huge meme


[04-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/Rekalty/status/1158075268965326849

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Rekalty (@Rekalty)
https://twitter.com/Rekalty/status/1158075268965326849
@neiltyson We're working to prevent medical errors.
We're working to prevent the flu.
We're working to prevent suicide.
We're working to prevent car accident.
We're doing fuck all about mass shootings.

Spot the difference, Neil.
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[04-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, on TV he's OK, on twitter he's a fool


[04-Aug-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah ok Ivanka, We'd do that except your father cut the budget for such things...


[04-Aug-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
little billy gold for hands needed an advanced cash payment on his yacht that week


[04-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Father


[04-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know he has an incest thing going on, but Ivanka's his daughter


[04-Aug-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right


[04-Aug-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i keep gettign ivanka confused with milania


[04-Aug-19 09:24 PM] ononim#8141
Good for her having at very least shreds of hunaity intact


[04-Aug-19 09:24 PM] ononim#8141
ALso holy shit Neil


[04-Aug-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/technology/8chan-shooting-manifesto.html

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By KEVIN ROOSE
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/technology/8chan-shooting-manifesto.html
8chan Is a Megaphone for Gunmen. ‘Shut the Site Down,’ Says It...
The site is a venue for extremists to test out ideas, share violent literature, and cheer on the perpetrators of mass killings.
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[04-Aug-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141

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[04-Aug-19 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.fo/WlARe

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8chan Is a Megaphone for Shooters. ‘Shut the Site Down,’ Says ...
archived 4 Aug 2019 18:26:16 UTC


[04-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NYT has monthly article limits etc


[04-Aug-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
even Hotweels thinks the site should be shut down because it fosters these shootings holy shit


[04-Aug-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah I posted pdf transcription


[04-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ah, thought that may have been the guy's post itself


[04-Aug-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like they'd only find somewhere else...


[04-Aug-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like yeah you can shut it down, but you gotta figure out how to stop them from just migratign to a new forum as well...


[04-Aug-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also shutting it down might turn it into a nest of africanized honey bees


[04-Aug-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/

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Inside Cloudflare's Decision to Let an Extremist Stronghold Burn
The story of how an internet infrastructure company get locked into a free-speech dispute starts in the cubicles of SoMa and the brothels of Istanbul.
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[04-Aug-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.fo/JIWXE

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Why Cloudflare Let an Extremist Stronghold Burn | WIRED
archived 10 Jul 2018 05:01:49 UTC
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[04-Aug-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also limited articles per month


[04-Aug-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
cloudflare bumped TDS because the CEO was upset they misrepresented cloudflare


[04-Aug-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
perhaps not the most strategic position to take


[04-Aug-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
but won over popular opinion nonetheless


[04-Aug-19 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://splinternews.com/top-republicans-are-blaming-video-games-for-the-white-t-1836953770

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Republicans Are Blaming Video Games for the White Terrorist Attacks
Dear Republicans, say it with me: White terr-or-ism. White supremacy. Domestic terrorism. Guns. Hate. Insecurity. Ignorance. Money.
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[04-Aug-19 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938
:idot:


[04-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna say it


[04-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
ban guns.


[04-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No private ownership period.


[04-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the ideal solution, but I believe at this point it is actually a reasonable solution to the scale of the problem.


[04-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget talking to conservatives who say a waiting list is a violation of their rights.


[04-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
**The 2nd amendment should be repealed.**


[04-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Waiting lists are like trying to fight the Mississippi with a single bucket.


[04-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
We need to be looking at comprehensive solutions on guns and not accepting any bullshit.


[04-Aug-19 11:03 PM] ononim#8141
I am sure this will lead to the expected result and police will not look through fingers at white supermacist illegally acquiring them anyway, because US police definatelly have no history of unofficially cooperating with them or have a large percentage of their staff who are themselves white supermacists!


[04-Aug-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/Sen-Mitch-McConnell-fractures-shoulder-after-falling-at-his-Kentucky-home-518970931.html

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Sen. Mitch McConnell fractures shoulder after falling at his Kentu...
According to a statement released by his press secretary, McConnell was treated at a Louisville hospital and released.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/0804_mcconnell.jpg


[04-Aug-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
HURTLE THE TURTLE


[04-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
that image really makes mcconnell look like palpatine


[04-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
something sinister about that smile


[04-Aug-19 11:32 PM] ononim#8141
Nuh


[04-Aug-19 11:32 PM] ononim#8141
He looks like Palpatine's cousing who is a bit to eager to fund orphanages in his name and far too jolly around little kids


[04-Aug-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
mcconnell would get reelected if he had a child sex scandal


[04-Aug-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[04-Aug-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in hell


[04-Aug-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1157818854602674176

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shoe (@shoe0nhead)
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1157818854602674176
is fox news fucking serious right now https://t.co/070UKg2oCj
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[04-Aug-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"THe menifestos mean nothing, nothing! It was only gamers!"


[04-Aug-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[04-Aug-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clearly it's just the gamers preparing to rise up after increasingly heated gamer moments


[04-Aug-19 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
"We live in a projection!"

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[04-Aug-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a porno


[04-Aug-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/epa-administrator-proves-carbon-emissions-not-harmful-b-1836912751

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EPA Administrator Proves Carbon Emissions Not Harmful By Inhaling ...
WASHINGTON—During a press conference held in a D.C. parking lot, Environmental Protection Agency head Andrew Wheeler went out of his way Friday to show carbon emissions were safe by putting his mouth over the exhaust pipe of an idling Jeep Grand Cherokee and taking several ...
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[04-Aug-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[04-Aug-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sad thing is these stories are less funny now because they're too believable.


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please tell me he;s going to the hospital soon for being an idiot


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's The Onion bud


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dangit


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i missed the url


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
R e a d  t h e  u r l


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News has a vested interest in diverting anti-gun hatred to gamer hatred btw


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Onion was funny once


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now it's sad


[04-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not in itself


[04-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But in that the reality has pretty much surpassed it


[04-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Games compete with TV viewers, ofc


[05-Aug-19 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/efgfmnv0sbe31.jpg

"One illegally sold cigarettes, the other murdered 20 people. Guess who did it!"

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[05-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You see, it's because the first went against the tobacco lobby, while the second is a posterboy for the guns lobby
/s but only barely


[05-Aug-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/u0iP-q8BiBA

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Counter Arguments
https://youtu.be/u0iP-q8BiBA
Religious Liberty
An argument against a particular idea or concept. The Concept: If your religion differs from the law of your country, that law does not apply to you. Advocat...
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[05-Aug-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Hasn't lost its relevance over the past year by any stretch


[05-Aug-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
This is how politicians erode the meaning of laws


[05-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
eugh


[05-Aug-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/e2w33k5i8de31.jpg

“No Way to Prevent This”, says only nation where this regularly happens

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[05-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Render unto caesar that which is caeasar's.


[05-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Mike Huckabee hasn't read that part of the bible.


[05-Aug-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or doesn't know what it means, or doesn't care.


[05-Aug-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, tho, most of the Republican party very explicitly doesn't follow that rule.


[05-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
(for those wondering, a modern translation would be YOU OWE THE IRS TAXES JUST AS MUCH AS YOU OWE GOD WORSHIP)


[05-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, not at all?


[05-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[05-Aug-19 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/unnh0kPbLi8

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Counter Arguments
https://youtu.be/unnh0kPbLi8
Bigoted Trolls
An analysis of how a particular label contradicts itself. Label: Bigoted Troll On One Hand: It implies someone sincerely expressing their own bigoted beliefs...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/unnh0kPbLi8/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Aug-19 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember the time when I could see a horrific post and genuinely believe "he's just trolling"


[05-Aug-19 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
While now it's a mix of "He's trolling but also believes this, though understands how bad it looks and just 'pretends' he's trolling", and "he genuinely believes this and is too stupid to realize how bad it looks or just doesn't care"


[05-Aug-19 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss those days


[05-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1158173288293707776?s=20

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CNN (@CNN)
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1158173288293707776?s=20
Mexico calls the El Paso shooting, in which six Mexicans died, a terrorist act against Mexicans in the US. It might try to get the suspect extradited. https://t.co/XAdTxZKMSr
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[05-Aug-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
inb4 trump


[05-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
HA!! https://aol.it/31lmtvI

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Sen Mitch McConnell trips, breaks shoulder in Kentucky
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is recovering at home in Kentucky after suffering a shoulder fracture in a fall Sunday, a spokesman said.
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[05-Aug-19 03:29 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
get fucked Bitch McConnell


[05-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
maybe stuff can actually start happening in congress now that he's out of commission for a bit


[05-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll keep it up until his legs stop working.


[05-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gamerant.com/genshin-impact-chinajoy-ps4-smash/

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ChinaJoy Attendee Smashes PS4 to Protest Zelda-like Game
A ChinaJoy attendee unhappy with Sony bringing the Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild-like Genshin Impact to PS4 smashes his console in protest.
https://static1.gamerantimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/chinajoy-attendee-smashes-ps4-genshin-impact.jpg


[05-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Thinks it looks bad when China rips off Western IPs


[05-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Smashes his own PS4 to protest


[05-Aug-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

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Terminating Service for 8Chan
The mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio are horrific tragedies. In the case of the El Paso shooting, the suspected terrorist gunman appears to have been inspired by the forum website known as 8chan.
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[05-Aug-19 03:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
only a matter of time. where do you think these type of guys will go next when 8chin is gone?


[05-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will never go


[05-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll find somewhere else to host them


[05-Aug-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
cloudflare isn't hosting 8chan


[05-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Backup, whatever


[05-Aug-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
cloudflare is providing a protection service for 8chan


[05-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll find some way to stay away from being pulled down


[05-Aug-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
this doesn't remove 8chan's ability to exist as a service, it just inconveniences them slightly


[05-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean 8chan had Null for a while who now is on Kiwi Farms


[05-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he has given up a lot to keep that up


[05-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, have you seen this article? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/19/think-empathy-makes-world-better-place-think-again

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Think empathy makes the world a better place? Think again … | Pa...
The renowned psychologist’s new book is overturning received wisdom. Here, he explains the flaws in feeling others’ pain
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[05-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
the tl;dr is basically that empathy makes people care too much for the individual over the collective


[05-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
also, food aid supposedly hurts local food producers


[05-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
tbh, now that I reread it, it basically sounds like typical (classical) liberal nonsense about not helping your neighbor unless it benefits you


[05-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Partially


[05-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main point of it is about how misplaced aid is really not doing the most good.


[05-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The aid that may make us feel good may not do anywhere near what is actually needed.


[05-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that specific point is a bit bullshit.


[05-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's quite possible to provide food aid and keep local farms working


[05-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only a very naive approach ignores keeping infrastructure and such working with some of the aid, and just dumps food on people.


[05-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also sometimes aid is necessary because farming has utterly collapsed and it wouldn't be able to uncollapse anyways.


[05-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Split the aid upstream and it'll go fine.


[05-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this is "it's not perfect, so don't do it", @Crow


[05-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main criticism is it's not perfect.


[05-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It tries to vaguely make a point it could make things worse, but by and large, charity organizations do not make things worse.


[05-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Discouraging people from donating may not lead to any improvement.


[05-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
>not perfect


[05-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
>this universe


[05-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big part of conservative rhetoric btw


[05-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
they dispel some minor myth that liberals tend to believe, showing that a liberal thing to do is only, like, 75% effective


[05-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then they keep pointing that out until you believe you shouldn't do it at all


[05-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead do their thing that is actively harmful.


[05-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
People's desire to not waste any effort is heavily exploitable, moreso than empathy, and so it's not too hard to go "well Obamacare isn't perfect according to this, so why not repeal? We'll totes replace it with something better. No need for details right now..."


[05-Aug-19 07:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/83e222c2be834d1fb3b472f9f77aabb2

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Classmates: Ohio shooter kept a 'hit list' and a 'rape list'
DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — High school classmates of the gunman who killed nine people early Sunday in Dayton, Ohio, say he was suspended for compiling a "hit list" of those he wanted to kill and a "rape...
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[05-Aug-19 12:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
"Totally normal teenager"


[05-Aug-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Those new fnagled teenagers and their 'rape lists'!"


[05-Aug-19 12:32 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
we shouldnt have segments on the new on "how to deal with mass shootings"


[05-Aug-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we shouldnt have "shooting lockdowns" in schools either...


[05-Aug-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm sorry children, The government is too busy making bank off the NRA to help us, so i'm just going to have to teach you how to hide in a corner and pray to your maker"


[05-Aug-19 12:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah I remember  that the teachers had to do special training just in case


[05-Aug-19 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college even has these drills


[05-Aug-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just waiting for the news to come out about a mass shooting happening durign the drill because the shooter has been taught where everyone will be hiding


[05-Aug-19 12:47 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh god yeah


[05-Aug-19 02:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I kinda notice a pattern with these shootings too


[05-Aug-19 02:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they happen alot during summer, middle of the school season, and winter


[05-Aug-19 03:03 PM] byte[]#2610
so


[05-Aug-19 03:03 PM] byte[]#2610
year round


[05-Aug-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f82d6b27caf64167852ace2dad6c0c63

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Security cut off for 'cesspool of hate' 8chan forum
NEW YORK (AP) — An online message board accused of hosting extremist content was temporarily inaccessible Monday after its cybersecurity provider cut off support for a "cesspool of hate" following...
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[05-Aug-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7def26496545425a9bc83453f9147b00

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Texas Republican congressman retiring as GOP departures rise
WASHINGTON (AP) — Yet another Texas Republican congressman is announcing his retirement, two GOP officials said Monday, as the party's mounting departures make it increasingly unlikely it will be...
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[05-Aug-19 03:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
@byte[] yeah but those are the times t happens the most


[05-Aug-19 03:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But you just described the entire year...


[05-Aug-19 03:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Summer and Winter are half of the year, and school is always going on during Spring and Autumn...


[05-Aug-19 03:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dont notice any in spring


[05-Aug-19 03:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
well the kind thats reported in the news at least


[05-Aug-19 03:30 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but thats just the parrtern on the reports I noticed


[05-Aug-19 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
there are multiple fatal shootings in the US daily


[05-Aug-19 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
it makes the headlines when it's a cop shooting a black guy or it's a terrorist committing mass murder


[05-Aug-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Aug-19 03:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
welp


[05-Aug-19 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's already ransomed gun law reform into his immigration bullshit


[05-Aug-19 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For a few hours he was starting to seem like a not irredeemable shitwipe, that ended fast


[05-Aug-19 03:46 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Trump gotta Trump it up somehow


[05-Aug-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit trump...


[05-Aug-19 03:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6068178078001/#sp=show-clips

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Ohio cops seen racing towards gunfire in Dayton to stop gunman
Authorities say Dayton police officers 'neutralized the shooter' 30 seconds after the first shots were fired; reaction from the 'Fox & Friends' law enforcement panel.
https://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/08/05/640/360/694940094001_6068175531001_6068178078001-vs.jpg


[05-Aug-19 03:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guy at the end with a scattergun...


[05-Aug-19 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938

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[05-Aug-19 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Accurate as fuck


[05-Aug-19 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/live-1000-am-trump-to-deliver-remarks-on-the-weekends-mass-shootings/2019/08/05/aacdee29-1cc0-4fe8-a68c-2b338ef8c4e8_live.html?utm_term=.ab3d01130299


[05-Aug-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok


[05-Aug-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://medium.com/@AmyJackson1/mass-shooters-the-march-against-whiteness-a6e588a7a5ca also this

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Mass Shooters & the March Against Whiteness
In wake of yet another mass casualty event in not only El Paso Texas but also Dayton Ohio on the same day, it is time the targeted…
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[05-Aug-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck the comment section...


[05-Aug-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Aug-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7047bea466f143d1ad9f61530e34af27

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https://apnews.com/7047bea466f143d1ad9f61530e34af27
Trump says he wants stronger gun checks but gives no details
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Monday condemned weekend shootings in Texas and Ohio as "barbaric" attacks and crimes "against all humanity" as he called for bipartisan cooperation to...
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[05-Aug-19 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft lets see if he actually does this lol


[05-Aug-19 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
he talks a big talk but no fucking details lol


[05-Aug-19 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
meaning its just a distraction from the border patrol stuff


[05-Aug-19 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
gamers rise up


[05-Aug-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is always all talk no details


[05-Aug-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
That is his MO


[05-Aug-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
he plays the politician game just like the rest of them


[05-Aug-19 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoSentenceHorror/comments/cm555j/i_lost_my_friend_in_the_recent_mass_shooting/

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r/TwoSentenceHorror - “I lost my friend in the recent mass shoot...
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[05-Aug-19 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[05-Aug-19 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a depression


[05-Aug-19 05:56 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
News: Here is how not to be depressed or anxious anymore 😃


[05-Aug-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Be on the look out for mass shootings, if you see one, enter the cross fire! You won;t be depressed anymore!"


[05-Aug-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/kashmir-india-revoke-article-370-quasi-independence-internet-tourists-2019-8

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India shut off the internet and ordered tourists to leave the hotl...
India on Monday revoked constitutional provisions that allowed Kashmir, the disputed region between India and Pakistan, to make its own laws.
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[05-Aug-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
> India shut off the internet and ordered tourists to leave the hotly contested Kashmir region, in a risky bid to end its quasi-independence


[05-Aug-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
>  India has shut off the internet, placed politicians under house arrest, and ordered tourists to leave the disputed region of Kashmir, and on Monday it annulled part of its constitution that gave the region a large degree of independence from the rest of the country.


[05-Aug-19 06:21 PM] Crow#5457
designated


[05-Aug-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
>  Pakistan's foreign ministry says it will "exercise all possible options to counter the illegal steps."


[05-Aug-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time


[05-Aug-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
(both india and pakistan have nukes)


[05-Aug-19 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/opinion/sunday/labor-unions.html

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By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/opinion/sunday/labor-unions.html
Opinion | Yes, America Is Rigged Against Workers
No other industrial country treats its working class so badly. And there’s one big reason for that.
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[05-Aug-19 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
> The United States is the only advanced industrial nation that doesn’t have national laws guaranteeing paid maternity leave. It is also the only advanced economy that doesn’t guarantee workers any vacation, paid or unpaid, and the only highly developed country (other than South Korea) that doesn’t guarantee paid sick days. In contrast, the European Union’s 28 nations guarantee workers at least four weeks’ paid vacation.


[05-Aug-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
> Among the three dozen industrial countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States has the lowest minimum wage as a percentage of the median wage — just 34 percent of the typical wage, compared with 62 percent in France and 54 percent in Britain. It also has the second-highest percentage of low-wage workers among that group, exceeded only by Latvia.


[05-Aug-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
> All this means the United States suffers from what I call “anti-worker exceptionalism.”


[05-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
> The only time during the past century when income inequality narrowed substantially was the 1940s through 1970s, when unions were at their peak of power and prominence.


[05-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
WHO WOULDA THUNK


[05-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
> But this desire to unionize faces some daunting challenges. In many corporations, the mentality is that any supervisor, whether a factory manager or retail manager, who fails to keep out a union is an utter failure. That means managers fight hard to quash unions. One study found that 57 percent of employers threatened to close operations when workers sought to unionize, while 47 percent threatened to cut wages or benefits and 34 percent fired union supporters during unionization drives.


[05-Aug-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
> The diminished power of unions and workers has skewed American politics, helping give billionaires and corporations inordinate sway over America’s politics and policymaking.


[05-Aug-19 06:47 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr the current state of american politics are a direct result of unions having no power

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[05-Aug-19 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/article-370-what-is-happening-in-kashmir-india-revokes-special-status.html

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India revokes special status for Kashmir. Here's what it means
The Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) is in lockdown after the government revoked a special status granted to the troubled region.
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[05-Aug-19 06:48 PM] Crow#5457
I just linked that lol


[05-Aug-19 06:48 PM] ononim#8141
ohy crow posted it


[05-Aug-19 06:48 PM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time now


[05-Aug-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, if there's anyone left on the fence about unions, they need to be linked this article <https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/03/opinion/sunday/labor-unions.html>


[05-Aug-19 07:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
8chan is dead. Requesting status report on 4/pol/


[05-Aug-19 07:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🦀 ARYANNE IS DEAD 🦀


[05-Aug-19 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Won't stay dead for long


[05-Aug-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, they'll either find a new forum to infest, or find a new partner to host it


[05-Aug-19 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Daily Stormer is just fine


[05-Aug-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/trump-getting-worse/595453/

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He’s Getting Worse
Trump is turning the American presidency into a platform for the wholesale demonization of minorities.
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[05-Aug-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta love how his one super consistent policy position is that video games are bad and should be regulated


[05-Aug-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A position that Hillary had too


[05-Aug-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Video games don't give them lobby money, which makes them excellent scapegoats to protect the lobbying interests of those that do


[05-Aug-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ESA did at one point spend almost as much as the NRA lobbying


[05-Aug-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the entertainment software association?


[05-Aug-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who did they lobby though and for what?


[05-Aug-19 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably against laws like CA used to have that got struck down as unconstitutional


[05-Aug-19 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They got SCOTUS to say video games are protected by the first amendment


[05-Aug-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/456168-fbi-warns-of-copycat-attacks-in-wake-of-mass-shootings

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FBI warns of copycat attacks in wake of mass shootings
The FBI is warning of the potential for copycat attacks by domestic extremists after two mass shootings rocked the country over the weekend, including one that appeared to be motivated by animus toward Hispanics and immigrants.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-fbi_051519getty.jpg


[05-Aug-19 09:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Great time to warn of copycat attacks


[05-Aug-19 09:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Monday morning at 9 AM


[05-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And not, I dunno, *immediately after* said events


[05-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🙄


[05-Aug-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-49243675/siberia-arms-store-fire-triggers-huge-blasts

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Massive blasts as Siberia arms store burns
Local residents are being evacuated after a fire at a military base led to a chain of explosions.
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[05-Aug-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-fbi-boss-agents-dont-want-to-target-trump-base-2019-8

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FBI agents are reluctant to pursue white nationalist extremists be...
One former FBI agent told The Washington Post that he thought political controversies had muted the response to violence by white nationalists.
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[05-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Fucking christ


[05-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I don't have enough facepalm emoji to react to this


[05-Aug-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/xm8dape6nle31.png

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[05-Aug-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck poor people


[05-Aug-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society gamers rise up


[05-Aug-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*The school would later announce that they just enjoyed punching kids in the crotch, it was never about the money, they just really hate poor kids*


[05-Aug-19 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"If you care about other people so much just donate to charity instead of taxing the rich :^) "


[05-Aug-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
-*Rich person as they burn down an orphanage to build a condo*


[05-Aug-19 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.timesleader.com/news/751406/philadelphia-businessman-donates-full-amount-to-pay-wvw-lunch-debts

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timesleader
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Philadelphia businessman donates full amount to pay WVW lunch debt...
KINGSTON — The Wyoming Valley West Educational Foundation has received $22,467.76 from La Colombe coffee roasters founder Todd Carmichael to cover all lunch debts owed to the district…
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[05-Aug-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Part of the agreement in providing the money included a letter of apology being sent to parents who had received an earlier letter threatening foster care placement for their children if arrangements weren’t made regarding the debts.`
`He also asked for and received the resignation of solicitor Charles Coslett, who had defended the letter as necessary`
`including approval of a letter of apology from Superintendent Irv DeRemer.`


[05-Aug-19 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s nice to know that the asshats who supported this move are losing their fucking jobs


[05-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[05-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GAMERS


[05-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No this was not faked, it was deleted later


[05-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh hey, a higher quality version of that screencap


[05-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Epic has implied that this was faked


[05-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Too bad there's screen recordings of it


[05-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
who


[05-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dev took money to go EGS exclusive


[05-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Admitted it was for money


[05-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But fucked up by mocking and being condescending to fans


[05-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying "why don't you focus on human rights abuses"


[05-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lot of balls for people indirectly taking money from Beijing


[05-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, Ooblets


[05-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it's two guys


[05-Aug-19 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they just made 10mil USD


[05-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully they enjoy their blood money


[05-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also saying "we got the amount we thought we would earn across all platforms already" is a super bad idea


[05-Aug-19 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they don't say it people would hate them


[05-Aug-19 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they're honest people would hate them


[05-Aug-19 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's no winning move


[05-Aug-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
epic is taint


[05-Aug-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
once you interact you are taint


[05-Aug-19 10:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/1107710444704284673

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System of a Sloth (@CaseyExplosion)
https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/1107710444704284673
A reminder that the Columbine shooters were white supremacists who scribbled their journals with swastikas and SS symbols, praised the nazis, and committed their murder spree Hitler's birthday.

Media bent over backwards to blame everything but white supremacy for their ac...
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[05-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shocking, truly


[05-Aug-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon nah there are some cool devs that went "sorry we just need some money please understand"


[05-Aug-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they've all been massively shat on


[05-Aug-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just that a lot of them really really resent their audience and this is them finally not having to care anymore


[05-Aug-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some have pointed out that since many are very far left this may pander to their pseudo communist views


[05-Aug-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, compensation simply because labor was expended without any regard for quality or supply and demand


[05-Aug-19 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or, alternatively, someone saw the quality of their labour and paid them up front to own it


[05-Aug-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which not even existing Communist states do really


[05-Aug-19 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is primo capitalism


[05-Aug-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well that's Epic's angle


[05-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The developer angle is that labor has inherent worth


[05-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that people paying them for just making thing are the correct people to work with


[05-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh, Tim's bought your copy already


[05-Aug-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No reason to not pirate, hilariously


[05-Aug-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One big reason that I realize most people don't give a shit about is that it makes Epic less profitable which makes devs less profitable


[05-Aug-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But no one really cares about the games industry, they just want games now


[05-Aug-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is normal


[05-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody cares about cocoa tree farmers, they just want Mars bars for cheap


[05-Aug-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cocoa tree farmers don't have a Patreon where they make money to harvest and promise people locally made chocolate before selling out to Hershey and then telling people to fuck off


[05-Aug-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People still get their chocolate for cheap


[05-Aug-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I don't recall these guys promising anything other than to finish the game


[05-Aug-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik they never promised anyone game keys or mentioned platforms


[05-Aug-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did drag them along for two years expecting one thing and then getting another


[05-Aug-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People are getting the game


[06-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Paid exclusivity deals should be illegal.


[06-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are extremely anti-consumer and anti-competition.


[06-Aug-19 12:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Why have gun control wen we can blame weed , videogames, and artist like marilyn manson


[06-Aug-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism 101


[06-Aug-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why pass laws to fix society when you can use it being broken as a tool to collect hatred against whichever group the finger of the media is currently pointing towards?


[06-Aug-19 12:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[06-Aug-19 12:35 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the goverment will hate me cuz I play videogames, listen to metal, and smoke weede


[06-Aug-19 12:35 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh noes


[06-Aug-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Aug-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kamala harris is apparently using the shootings as a campaign donation point now


[06-Aug-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1158415978213994496

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Chris Ray Hispanic Invader (@ChrisRGun)
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Second verse, same as the first.
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[06-Aug-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect


[06-Aug-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, at least the gamers are gonna rise up now


[06-Aug-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
right


[06-Aug-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they targeted gamers.


[06-Aug-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*gamers.*


[06-Aug-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the 5th time


[06-Aug-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this happens whenever a white guy shoots up a place ebcause they cant acnowledge white supremacy or it;s admitting their base has a problem


[06-Aug-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for every other race it;s terrorist or muslim extremist


[06-Aug-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if anyone so much as says the words "white supremacist" Republican lawmakers pull out their torches and pitchforks to crusade against the evil videogame loving liberals and their satanic rock music


[06-Aug-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
gamers rise up


[06-Aug-19 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
gamers rise up 🇺🇸 🔫


[06-Aug-19 02:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Epic getting in on the drama themselves. 5 hours ago on their launcher. 
"Epic’s Statement on Misinformation & Abuse
8.5.2019
We at Epic Games have often shared our views about the game business and companies in it, and we support the entire game community’s right to speak freely and critically about these topics, including the topic of Epic, our products, and our store. When everyone shares their earnest views, the best ideas ultimately prevail.

The announcement of Ooblets highlighted a disturbing trend which is growing and undermining healthy public discourse, and that’s the coordinated and deliberate creation and promotion of false information, including fake screenshots, videos, and technical analysis, accompanied by harassment of partners, promotion of hateful themes, and intimidation of those with opposing views.

Epic is working together with many game developers and other partners to build what we believe will be a healthier and more competitive multi-store world for the future. We remain fully committed, and we will steadfastly support our partners throughout these challenges. Many thanks to all of you that continue to promote and advocate for healthy, truthful discussion about the games business and stand up to all manners of abuse."


[06-Aug-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the screenshots weren't fake


[06-Aug-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/608029222342230047/1565028241079.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 02:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAuJ5Q1veHE

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[06-Aug-19 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] people have proof that they aren't fake too


[06-Aug-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"fake" technical analysis?


[06-Aug-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Epic takes stuff from Steam


[06-Aug-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/OeD4FuWkL80

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Let's Not Politicize This
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[06-Aug-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
All human activity exists in society and is this at the least very basically political. I win.


[06-Aug-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
:sosmol:

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[06-Aug-19 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/05/business/china-currency-manipulator-donald-trump/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/05/business/china-currency-manipulator-donald-trump/index.html
Trump administration labels China a currency manipulator
The Trump administration on Monday designated China a "currency manipulator," after the country's central bank allowed its currency to weaken amid the ongoing trade dispute.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190805182853-us-china-currency-super-tease.jpg


[06-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fun times


[06-Aug-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/jYyDCzRv-EI

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Counter Arguments
https://youtu.be/jYyDCzRv-EI
Violent Video Games Cause Mass Shootings
Argument: Violence depicted in video games desensitizes young people to violence and renders them more likely to commit a violent crime. Counter-Argument: No...
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[06-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The origin of this argument came from willfully ignoring how the Columbine shooters were fascist


[06-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO


[06-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You cannot be a real American and judge people based on race


[06-Aug-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you claim to be a patriot and not think all men are created equal?


[06-Aug-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Rarely has any self-proclaimed patriot held this belief sincerely and without exception


[06-Aug-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Completely unrelated but


[06-Aug-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/1/11/18176551/ag-gag-laws-factory-farms-explained

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"Ag-gag laws" hide the cruelty of factory farms from the public. C...
"Ag-gag laws," explained.
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[06-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWllK66hgGo

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWllK66hgGo
Demands For Censorship Escalate Follow El Paso And Dayton, Authori...
Support My Work - https://www.timcast.com/donate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg2mvMUg6zk Buy stuff from me http://www.teespring.com/stores/timcast Become...
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[06-Aug-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/EwXnsvUoceA

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https://youtu.be/EwXnsvUoceA
Candace Owens | Celebrities
An analysis of how an individual's convictions contradict their actions. Individual: Candace Owens Conviction: We do not/should not care about the political ...
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[06-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
is there a link to that dumbass's manifesto, my mom claims he said some shit about wanting to kill people because of global warming


[06-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
el paso


[06-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
and she completely refuses to accept that the dude's a white supremacist


[06-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
she also refuses to accept that the columbine shooters were white supremacists


[06-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
well, more like neo-nazis, but they're practically the same thing


[06-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://egbertowillies.com/2019/08/03/patrick-crusius-manifesto/

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Egberto Willies
https://egbertowillies.com/2019/08/03/patrick-crusius-manifesto/
El Paso Mass Shooter Patrick Crusius (The Inconvenient Truth) Evil...
The following is the Evil Document reported by journalist Scott Stedman purported to be written by El Paso Mass Shooter Patrick Crusius.
https://egbertowillies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/El-Paso-Mass-Shooter-Patrick-Crusius-The-Inconvenient-Truth-Evil-Manifesto-1024x534.png


[06-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/mcconnell-mcgrath-tombstone-tweet-1448627

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Mitch McConnell campaign tweets image of tombstone with opponent...
The tweet was shared as details of the El Paso shooting were still developing.
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[06-Aug-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Not the most prudent thing to do


[06-Aug-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb


[06-Aug-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Rip "literally who" #2


[06-Aug-19 07:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There goes Tim Ryan


[06-Aug-19 07:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"suspending" campaign


[06-Aug-19 07:36 AM] Mikey#7286
?


[06-Aug-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/1150795345112305666

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Team Mitch (@Team_Mitch)
https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/1150795345112305666
Although I profoundly disagree with a few of these grave stones, this might be my all-time favorite cartoon of the over 600 in my career.
-MM
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[06-Aug-19 07:37 AM] Mikey#7286
just


[06-Aug-19 07:37 AM] Mikey#7286
wow


[06-Aug-19 07:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what the fuck


[06-Aug-19 08:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay so are we seeing a disgruntled staffer here or has Mitch well and truly lost the plot


[06-Aug-19 08:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not seeing any way to interpret this as good-natured self-deprecation, not with the way he's been responding to "Moscow Mitch," and disagreeing with a "few" gravestones *still* means there are some he agrees with. A number which should be zero.


[06-Aug-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lost the plot.


[06-Aug-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he's forgotten how to, you know, appear good to the public.


[06-Aug-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or he thinks he doesn't need to.


[06-Aug-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He may be right, sadly.


[06-Aug-19 08:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or maybe he's hopped up on pain meds


[06-Aug-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That tweet's from the 15th


[06-Aug-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was not on pain meds at the time.


[06-Aug-19 08:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:ponythinking: well darn, there goes that alibi


[06-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/bitmitigate
https://twitter.com/voxility/status/1158402502389313538

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BitMitigate (@bitmitigate)
World-class CDN. Bulletproof DDoS protection with a proven commitment to liberty.
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Voxility (@voxility)
https://twitter.com/voxility/status/1158402502389313538
@Cpo10za @alexstamos @qjurecic Working on this already! All content will be blocked shortly.
Twitter


[06-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr cloudflare booted 8chan, 8chan moved to a different service, said service wasn't self hosted and got itself shut down by the people that own the hardware


[06-Aug-19 10:34 AM] Mikey#7286
Rip


[06-Aug-19 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/05/748387407/video-games-are-still-blamed-for-gun-violence-despite-studies-showing-no-connect?t=1565080517301

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Video Games Are Still Blamed For Gun Violence Despite Studies Show...
Video games have long been blamed for gun violence in the U.S. — from Columbine to Saturday's mass shooting in El Paso. Scientific studies have shown no connection, so why is the claim still made?
https://media.npr.org/include/images/facebook-default-wide.jpg?s=1400


[06-Aug-19 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`When a minority commits crimes, some people assume, oh, it's because they're a minority. That must be why they did it. But when a nice white kid from the suburbs commit these crimes, they look for these causes. And they say, oh, it must be video games. It can't be because they were this good child. There's something that must be evil that infected them.`


[06-Aug-19 10:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/05/ohio-gop-leader-tells-lawmaker-resign-over-dayton-shooting-post/1925234001/

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Top Ohio Republican calls on lawmaker to resign after 'shocking' c...
Ohio Republican Party leader Jane Timken has called on Rep. Candice Keller to resign after the lawmaker's post on the Dayton shooting.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/06/27/PCIN/322b60de-20b2-4fa7-a7f5-b7e3476366f0-062819OhioStateHouse_20.jpg?crop=1692,956,x0,y208&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[06-Aug-19 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Aug-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-huckabee-thoughts-and-prayers_n_5d489692e4b0244052dfc493

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Mike Huckabee: Thoughts And Prayers Are 'Only Thing' That Will Sto...
The former Arkansas governor suggested the lack of thoughts and prayers is the real reason why mass shootings keep happening.
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[06-Aug-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not the onion...


[06-Aug-19 12:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/easyJet/status/1158642028143611904

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easyJet (@easyJet)
https://twitter.com/easyJet/status/1158642028143611904
@mattiasharris Hi Matthew, thanks for bringing this to our attention, before we can investigate this could I ask you to remove the photograph & then DM us more info regarding this, so we can best assist you. Ross https://t.co/Qq2zhBAizh
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[06-Aug-19 01:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking To be fair, we have had a long history in this country at least of deflecting blame for things because we can't imagine that our society can produce certain people and lay the conditions for certain actions. Way back in the 1800's we were blaming slave revolts - real or imagined - on the French or Catholics for encouraging the "otherwise peaceful slaves" to revolt, as opposed to slavery in itself.


[06-Aug-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
backless airplane seats...


[06-Aug-19 01:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/emrazz/status/1158504398164766720

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feminist next door (@emrazz)
https://twitter.com/emrazz/status/1158504398164766720
Pictured: seven young white men in “Team Mitch” T-shirts, gathered round a distressed looking cardboard @AOC, groping and kissing her. The caption, “break me off a piece of that.”

Future federal judges of America.
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[06-Aug-19 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
future incels in the making


[06-Aug-19 01:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
VIVE

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[06-Aug-19 01:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, these are fratboy daterapists


[06-Aug-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure what the difference is outside of cellibacy


[06-Aug-19 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Williamson is polling better than DeBlasio


[06-Aug-19 01:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But neither of them are Biden or Warren so


[06-Aug-19 01:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden needs to be polically assassinated already, but given all he's survived the last 3 months, probably unkillable


[06-Aug-19 01:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Borderline sexual assault, general creep, compliments to racists, constant use of Obama as a crutch, constant discarding the bad parts of Obama, completely obvious empty platitudes instead of answers


[06-Aug-19 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to say "eats babies to sustain political immortality" but that;s all politicians at this point


[06-Aug-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes, biden needs to go. all of his ideas are basically "Let's lock us into another 4 years of obama era policies with no devience or improvement, pretend Trump never existed, it was always obama. Forever."


[06-Aug-19 02:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon Let's not forget him or someone near him have out the names of the guys who killed Osama, leading to their mercing.


[06-Aug-19 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[06-Aug-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/7314263d68924c2990e52f1ff1ea99d8

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Trump freezes Venezuelan government assets amid tensions
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration froze all Venezuelan government assets in a dramatic escalation of tensions with Nicolás Maduro that places his socialist administration alongside a...
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[06-Aug-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.apnews.com/a36d17a860f34e138222cdadcbcd6c41

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Taliban say differences resolved on US troop withdrawal
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The United States and the Taliban have resolved differences in peace talks over the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan and guarantees from the insurgents that...
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[06-Aug-19 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/le2rb91k7te31.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://i.redd.it/eyq2pydh8se31.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 07:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Video game capital of the world has no video games. Sony, sega, Nintendo don't do games anymore.


[06-Aug-19 07:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
There are no video games in Japan because Sony moved to California


[06-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
ugh, huffpost is doing that guce.advertising.com forced tracking cookie bullshit


[06-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
umatrix is blocking it, effectively taking the entire site off the list of sites I can visit unless I want to be tracked


[06-Aug-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
use archive.is


[06-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/XTbaS

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Mike Huckabee: Thoughts And Prayers Are 'Only Thing' That Will Sto...
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[06-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
oh my god


[06-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
I couldn't see the entire title from the earlier post


[06-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
> Mike Huckabee: Thoughts And Prayers Are ‘Only Thing’ That Will Stop Mass Shootings


[06-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
> Huckabee said mass shootings will never stop until “kids are brought up once again to believe that we are all made in the image of God, that life is sacred and superficial differences like skin color are meaningless.”


[06-Aug-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
except, you know, that goes against the entire fucking history of humanity


[06-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/52VSu7x

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Feral hogs is trending today
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[06-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/FeyCttd.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/KaZWTGH.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/f1mudcw.jpg

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[06-Aug-19 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49248568

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49248568
Brazil inmate who dressed up as daughter found dead
Clauvino da Silva was found dead in his cell in Rio three days after his elaborate escape bid was foiled.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1621B/production/_108215609_e9c80749-2448-4352-b65a-d7993893b191.jpg


[06-Aug-19 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow


[06-Aug-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Prison officials said it appeared that Silva had hanged himself.`


[06-Aug-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow
It's almost like if two full days of international news coverage making fun of him dressed up like a girl would be a bad thing for him while in a Brazilian prison


[06-Aug-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
I have a nagging feeling that Luso-Americano prisons are on par with Russian ones


[06-Aug-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-trump/trump-without-evidence-accuses-google-of-very-illegal-action-ahead-of-election-idUSKCN1UW1AM

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Trump, without evidence, accuses Google of 'very illegal' action...
U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday stepped up his accusations against Google...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190806&t=2&i=1416022531&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF750YX


[06-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently this article was deleted https://medium.com/@AmyJackson1/mass-shooters-the-march-against-whiteness-a6e588a7a5ca


[06-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda)


[06-Aug-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://katv.com/news/nation-world/watch-shooting-reported-at-baton-rogue-walmart

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Watch: Shooting reported at Baton Rouge Walmart
WASHINGTON (SBG) -- A shooting has been reported at a Walmart in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.  WBRZ reports the shooting occurred around 12 p. m. local time. Police are also monitoring other Walmart locations in the city.  The television station is also reporting at least one pers...
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[06-Aug-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`new reporting indicated that it was not an active mass shooter, but was an isolated shooting between two men following an argument.1`


[06-Aug-19 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just your normal every day shoot out
🇺🇸


[06-Aug-19 10:55 PM] Litrojia#0612
Americans and duels go way back


[06-Aug-19 11:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hey Mike, if life is so sacred, then why does Flint still not have any water? :ponythinking:


[06-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[06-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[07-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/science/hitlers-secret-history-nazi-grandfather-jewish

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Hitler's secret history revealed: Study suggests Nazi leader's gra...
For years, the rumor existed that Adolf Hitler's paternal grandfather was Jewish, but the claim went unsubstantiated. Now, a new study suggests that the grandfather of the Nazi leader was indeed Jewish.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/09/74e78576-hitler1.jpg


[07-Aug-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
I bet the jews did this


[07-Aug-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49253691

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Texas police sorry for leading black man by rope
The apology follows an outcry over a photo of mounted officers leading an African American man.
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[07-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
It was just a prank guys


[07-Aug-19 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
clearly it was just a heated cop moment


[07-Aug-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We didnt want to wait for proper transportation but we also didnt want him to ride on the horse, the walk of shame was the only option"


[07-Aug-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of you shits could have walked with him at the very least


[07-Aug-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that even then parading a guy in handcuffs through town is fucked up


[07-Aug-19 01:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why do Donald hate China so much?


[07-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Because they're not white, duh :twismug:


[07-Aug-19 01:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We are even not a developed country.


[07-Aug-19 01:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our government can't even afford our football teams.


[07-Aug-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he wants all the manufacturing jobs in america, but can't do so because we stopped updating any of that for america a long ass time ago, and everyone sends manufacturing productions to china now


[07-Aug-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's basically trying to run america liek a hostile corporation, just like he ran his other companies


[07-Aug-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt see china as another country, he sees them as a rival corporation


[07-Aug-19 01:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[07-Aug-19 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
only need to deal with trump as president until 2024. then maybe whoever is next will be reasonable enough to fix trumps mess.


[07-Aug-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump doesnt get us all nuked first


[07-Aug-19 01:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I miss Obama so much


[07-Aug-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wasnt great but he was better than trump for damn sure


[07-Aug-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-mentally-ill-people-should-be-involuntarily-confined-2019-8

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[07-Aug-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now trump is suggesting the mentally ill should be involuntarily constrained


[07-Aug-19 02:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/inifinitym1992/status/1158495512770670593?s=21

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Trump is going to visit El Paso on Wednesday mourn with the victims but Rep. Veronica Escobar (a Democrat) says “He’s not welcome in El Paso” gee this is not what I’m Seeing from the people from El Paso  (BTW most people in El Paso despise   Rep. Escobar) https://t...
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[07-Aug-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump comes bearing paper towels to throw upon his loyal subjects


[07-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
mike "deus volt" pence


[07-Aug-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That doesnt sound liek a call to pray, that soudns more like a threat that you should be bowing in trump's presence...


[07-Aug-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
i dunno mike that sounds pretty gay to me

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[07-Aug-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or sucking trump's dick?


[07-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
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I hate grandpa now
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[07-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
> Ah yes, the infamous soviet plan to destroy America by making an few half black kids and one who's half Mexican and half Japanese.


[07-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's how cawmmunism gets you


[07-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
first, you have affordable college


[07-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
next thing you know, you're married to a mexican with 30 mexican babies


[07-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
\/s


[07-Aug-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is communist!


[07-Aug-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
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The communist regime can't stop us all!
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[07-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Laughing in Winnie the Pooh_


[07-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Aug-19 06:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[07-Aug-19 06:28 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Aug-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang or Williamson would be amazing on the ticket


[07-Aug-19 07:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lszLvUGZOo

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[07-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q4PLOvLFFs

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[07-Aug-19 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obsession with universities is crazy


[07-Aug-19 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I will always remember the time the college Republicans made a big deal that they didn't get enough time at my college at something and they let them have the floor


[07-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then they mumbled something within their time then complained later they were discriminated against


[07-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
lawl


[07-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
probably realized what they were going to say would sound incredibly bad out loud


[07-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never met a college conservative that actually wanted to have a debate


[07-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They all wanted to play victim


[07-Aug-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot easier to say assholish shit online than it is in person


[07-Aug-19 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Say it to my face not online and see what happens"- Abraham Lincoln


[07-Aug-19 08:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQ7KNb7EuM

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[07-Aug-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
that's not nyc's fault


[07-Aug-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
that's the companies being shitty


[07-Aug-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
that should be illegal


[07-Aug-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
that shit's not happening because they're turning a loss, but because their profit margins aren't high enough


[07-Aug-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
and if the system is set up in such a way that a business fails if they're only breaking even or turning a small profit, then maybe the system itself needs to be looked at


[07-Aug-19 08:29 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/08/06/trump-campaign-still-owes-el-paso-dollar500k-for-february-rally/23789465/

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Trump campaign still owes city of El Paso $500K for February rally
With Trump set to visit El Paso in the wake of Saturday’s mass shooting, the city is re-upping its request for his campaign to pay for the last visit.
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[07-Aug-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
the greatest businessman


[07-Aug-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
so great, he doesn't even pay people


[07-Aug-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/1BbfP1Q

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[07-Aug-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
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"Nazi's were socialists"
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[07-Aug-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
damn, the comments on this are a shitshow <https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/ccodnc/nazis_were_socialists/>


[07-Aug-19 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/times-square-gunshot-backfire-stampede-trnd/index.html

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Motorcycles backfiring mistaken for an active shooter in Times Square
After a weekend of two mass shootings that left a combined total of at least 31 dead, police say motorcycles backfiring in the popular New York tourist destination Times Square led people to believe they were at the center of a third.
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[07-Aug-19 12:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's march on Washington with big sticks and demand the repeal of the 1946 Taft Hartman Act. Reclaim the war chess.


[07-Aug-19 01:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grandmother-averts-mass-shooting-bringing-grandson-hospital-after-threats-n1039226

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Grandmother averts mass shooting by bringing grandson to hospital ...
Authorities found an AK-47, 17 magazines loaded with ammunition, and multiple knives in the hotel room the 19-year-old had rented.
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[07-Aug-19 01:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tactical unibrow


[07-Aug-19 01:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-tech/8chan-owner-called-before-u-s-congress-as-latest-host-drops-site-idUSKCN1UX012

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8chan owner called before Congress, as latest host drops site
Online message board 8chan's fortunes worsened on Tuesday, as it was once a...
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[07-Aug-19 01:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/owner-of-8chan-lashes-out-in-video-statement-is-summoned-to-u-s-congress-1.4538604

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Owner of 8chan lashes out in video statement, is summoned to U.S. ...
Jim Watkins, the current owner of website 8chan, issued a statement via YouTube on the website’s inability to surface back online to mainstream audiences and was summoned to U.S. Congress to answer questions about the site’s content in a letter Tuesday.
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[07-Aug-19 01:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
As cathartic as it is to see 8chan thrashed so much it doesn't alleviate the underlying issue behind the violence. But so long as both sides apply a certain Reagan logic things'll only get more violent as we offload blame on otherwise irrelevant shit, like video games or heavy metal.


[07-Aug-19 01:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Basically, we need to dramatically rewrite relationships if not go full socialism at work.


[07-Aug-19 01:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Rise! The glorious radical Union! Save us by holding the whole pension plan as the war chess and obtain for us free or low cost housing through worker's power!


[07-Aug-19 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like cawmmunist propaganda, but ok

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[07-Aug-19 01:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Become the foot long lag screw to tie employment down in America!


[07-Aug-19 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:

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[07-Aug-19 01:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile, ever more fascinating details are unearthed regarding a site Ron Robinson was running.... https://twitter.com/VickerySec/status/1158459790432952320

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Solid evidence of GOP-Russia conspiracy to subvert US law in waging a campaign against Democracy.
This is a well-established GOP operative's website archived here.
And Mitch McConnell is a client.

#YesCollusion #YesObstruction
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[07-Aug-19 01:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This implicates Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, and primarily Ben Carson... if this turns out to have teeth to it, it could be disastrous


[07-Aug-19 01:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mind, that looks like a shitty geocities


[07-Aug-19 01:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially Ben, whose campaign site (run by the same guy) features a hidden pullout menu with, bizarrely, a screenshot of a console with references to **<yandex.ru>** and **metasploit**


[07-Aug-19 01:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/VickerySec/status/1158178823373897728

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On a GOP "digital activist" training site.
Run by the head of Ben Carson's digital campaigning for the presidency, is the following.
I added the red arrows. This is shocking.
Remember, this is a page for *republican* *political* *operatives*.
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[07-Aug-19 01:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, if it weren't for the fact that RR actually works for Ben's campaign and this is all archived from years ago on the internet archive, this is a nearly unbelievable level of incriminating evidence


[07-Aug-19 01:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which means nothing will happen


[07-Aug-19 01:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sucks, but true


[07-Aug-19 01:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, I'm looking at this like some kind of panama papers 2.0


[07-Aug-19 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
still, it'd be nice to live in a world that wasn't a spy thriller written by a six-year-old


[07-Aug-19 01:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And just in case it slipped by, that first site advertises itself as being "subpoena-proof" email because the email servers are hosted *in russia, via Yandex* despite the domain being registered to Ron via GoDaddy in the US...and despite listing half a dozen high-profile clientele with photos. Of course, all it'd take is one scrap of evidence to suggest that any of these people actually used one of these email addresses for that claim to go to shreds. Buttery males here we come


[07-Aug-19 01:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and George Papadopolous's name re-emerged in connection with this because of course it did


[07-Aug-19 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other news, https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/justice-department-mazars-subpoena-trump-barr.html

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[07-Aug-19 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah yeah it's slate but still


[07-Aug-19 02:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God, this dude always look a rotting potato


[07-Aug-19 02:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
man hearing about all of these shootings on the news


[07-Aug-19 02:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
to hear that people lost family cuz of shit like this


[07-Aug-19 02:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
no one should have to go through that


[07-Aug-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/daa18df66eaf4d99acebc36f86edd330

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Some skeptical as Trump prepares to visit sites of shootings
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is bringing a message aimed at national unity and healing to the sites of the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton. But the words he offers for a divided...
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[07-Aug-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those uniting words are "Send her back"...


[07-Aug-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/jerry-nadler-brett-kavanaugh-white-house-records-1449955

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Jerry Nadler makes new push for Kavanaugh’s White House records
The House Judiciary Committee chairman is reopening a divisive battle over the Supreme Court justice.
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[07-Aug-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-immigration-for-3-years-denied-compensation-by-appeals-court

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U.S. Citizen Who Was Held By ICE For 3 Years Denied Compensation B...
Davino Watson was imprisoned as a deportable immigrant for 1,273 days, despite having U.S. citizenship. Now a court says he is not eligible for $82,500 in damages he was awarded.
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[07-Aug-19 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Aug-19 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/07/asia/kashmir-pakistan-response-intl-hnk/index.html

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Pakistan downgrades diplomatic ties, suspends trade with India ove...
Pakistan has announced it will downgrade diplomatic relations and suspend bilateral trade with India after New Delhi stripped the disputed state of Jammu and Kashmir of its special status.
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[07-Aug-19 06:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/ugLA_STXjr4 https://www.npr.org/2019/08/06/748396590/trump-left-a-lot-unsaid-about-mass-shootings-domestic-terrorism-and-his-own-word

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Blaming Games For Mass Shootings Is A Disgusting Distraction (The ...
http://www.patreon.com/jimquisition http://www.thejimquisition.com https://www.thejimporium.com In the wake of multiple mass shootings over a single weekend,...
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Trump Left A Lot Unsaid About Mass Shootings, Domestic Terrorism ...
The president struck a somber tone about the latest round of mass shootings in this country and talked about pushing for an end to them. But tone is one thing; action is another.
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[07-Aug-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-white-supremacists_n_5d4a412ae4b0066eb709ac39

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Tucker Carlson Claims There's No White Supremacy Problem: 'This Is...
Fox News host says "it’s actually not a real problem in America.”
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[07-Aug-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never seen a dinosaur so they don't exist


[07-Aug-19 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
"I've never seen coochie so it doesn't exist" ~Tucker Carlson


[07-Aug-19 09:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ellievhall/status/1159113620342657024?s=09

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One of the most WTF things I’ve ever seen in an advice column was when a woman wrote that she thought her MIL was poisoning her @ family dinners. Prudence advised her to switch plates w/ her husband. 

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[07-Aug-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
Thonking about linking this to The Other Russian


[07-Aug-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
geeze that's a fucked up relationship


[07-Aug-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/daa18df66eaf4d99acebc36f86edd330

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Protesters chant for action on guns as Trump visits Dayton
DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — Aiming to play the traditional role of healer during national tragedy, President Donald Trump paid visits Wednesday to two cities reeling from mass shootings that left 31 dead...
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[07-Aug-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e74f6ef3039f40db9ebca20cab6ef2f2

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McConnell, GOP Senate resist calls to 'do something'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is resisting pressure to bring senators back from recess to address gun violence, taking a more measured approach that could very likely...
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[07-Aug-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
moscow mitch


[07-Aug-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I will do nothing and you will like my nothing right up your ass! And when i die my corpse will be made the permanent majority elader so we can do even more nothing!"


[07-Aug-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's done nothing for the people of Kentucky


[07-Aug-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing he did for kentucky was sell it to russia and then hold it hostage


[07-Aug-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of GOP is now just "own the libs" and nothing else


[07-Aug-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Need to use reverse psychology on them


[07-Aug-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberals would _hate_ to expand healthcare


[07-Aug-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man they would _hate_ if there were stronger background checks


[07-Aug-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s surprising no one has tried this


[07-Aug-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"well you know, capitalism is the new socialism, maybe we should try soemthing less socialist like actuall socialism"


[07-Aug-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I were Dem candidate my slogan would be "Make America Really Great"


[07-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[07-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The average voter is far more extreme than they will admit


[07-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's probably way more secret support of the squad than the GOP expects


[07-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Obama to Trump voters have a limit that has been passed


[07-Aug-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The liberals fucking hate Trees! we should plant more of thme to own the libs at their forest cuttign games!


[07-Aug-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/456608-democrats-file-lawsuit-to-enforce-subpoena-against-mcgahn

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Democrats file lawsuit to enforce subpoena against McGahn
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) filed a civil lawsuit Wednesday to enforce a subpoena for testimony from Don McGahn, after the former White House counsel initially defied lawmakers’ reques
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[08-Aug-19 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey lemme set this conversation on fire real quick for a second, borrowing a question from another political conversation I'm in. ||Let's pretend super-president robot Bernie Biden-Cortez uses an executive genie wish to poof the 2nd amendment out of existence entirely. What laws would we need to ensure the "minimum necessary" level of gun rights?||


[08-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not how it would work


[08-Aug-19 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
shh, just embrace the troll logic and answer the question


[08-Aug-19 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
if we're embracing insane troll logic thing how about (1) no guns (2) that's it


[08-Aug-19 12:44 AM] ononim#8141
||I'd say something but I like to at least pretend to conceal my power level||


[08-Aug-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
t-shirt cannons are now the only legal form of guns


[08-Aug-19 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1159258872223158273?s=21

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I don’t know who Joaquin Castro is other than the lesser brother of a failed presidential candidate (1%) who makes a fool of himself every time he opens his mouth. Joaquin is not the man that his brother is, but his brother, according to most, is not much. Keep fighting ...
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[08-Aug-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I don't know who this person is, other than -presents biography and list of receipts-"


[08-Aug-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nicknames aren't acceptable I guess.


[08-Aug-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well someone used one on Moscow Mitch and suddenly it wasn't fair anymore


[08-Aug-19 03:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1159198851829399552?s=21

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The people I met today in Dayton are the finest anywhere!
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[08-Aug-19 03:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Finest?


[08-Aug-19 03:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1158551525817536512?s=21

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Check out what @Google is up to for the 2020 election! #KAG2020 https://t.co/roM2WNmUSP
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[08-Aug-19 03:08 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh such fake sympathy


[08-Aug-19 03:09 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
how gross


[08-Aug-19 03:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine getting shot and ending up in hospital only to wake up to Trump giving you that face. 😤  🔫


[08-Aug-19 03:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh yeah


[08-Aug-19 03:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
why would you take a fucking photo of the patients


[08-Aug-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hey kid, I hope you liked gettign shot because i;ve been groping your mom all day!"


[08-Aug-19 03:47 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft yeah thats a thing he would say alright


[08-Aug-19 03:48 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"melina dosent mind she likes to watch"


[08-Aug-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Whats that? you guys don't want me coming to your city while you;re in the middle of mourning? That soudns like a demand for me to come to your city int he middle of mourning! I'll go get my jet!"


[08-Aug-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm the best president, look at me giving critically injured children a photo op with my glorious face! I wonder if i can get the number of that hot nurse downt he hall?""


[08-Aug-19 03:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"Im not the bad guy even tho I have said some questionable things at rallies about shootings and Hillary is more bad them me lol  lol lol"


[08-Aug-19 03:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"why is everyone so mean to me owo"


[08-Aug-19 03:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"I also like to give people I dont like nicknames "


[08-Aug-19 03:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"I sooo got this rocket shit undercontrol"


[08-Aug-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is zapp branigan as a president


[08-Aug-19 03:57 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh my fucking god


[08-Aug-19 03:57 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yesss


[08-Aug-19 03:57 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"Want some shampagen"


[08-Aug-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to re-inforce this, the voice actor of zapp brannigan read trump quotes


[08-Aug-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=406KqNDgKuI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=406KqNDgKuI
Donald Trump quotes said by Zapp Brannigan
The wonderful Billy West doing dumb Donald Trump quotes as Futurama's Zapp Brannigan. Here presented in chronological order. All clips are from Billy Wests T...
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[08-Aug-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thereare 4 of those videos


[08-Aug-19 03:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
dear god


[08-Aug-19 03:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats perfect


[08-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nvm those 4 are a compliation of the 8


[08-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs38jr7ool8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs38jr7ool8
Donald Trump quotes said by Zapp Brannigan. Part 2!
More "great" quotes from Donald Trump said by Futurama's Zapp Branningan. Now with comments from Kif! All quotes are by the wonderfull Billy West and taken f...
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[08-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07Ve5RCwB8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07Ve5RCwB8
Donald Trump quotes said by Zapp Brannigan. Part 3!
More "great" quotes from Donald Trump said by Futurama's Zapp Branningan. Now with comments from Kif! These are in chronological order and go from 1991-2015....
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[08-Aug-19 04:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
that makes me want to record my fluttershy voice saying those things again lol


[08-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uu0d_UHNa4

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Donald Trump quotes said by Zapp Brannigan. Part 4!
There were so many "great" quotes from 2016 (besides the ones already uploaded), that I included them all in a single video. Since this is in chronological o...
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[08-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumpershy


[08-Aug-19 04:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
It would be better If I wasnt so nasaly lol


[08-Aug-19 04:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
god the fucking sighing of kif


[08-Aug-19 04:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
makes it better


[08-Aug-19 04:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats my mom and i everytime we watch him on the news


[08-Aug-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/608842127199174667/s4BBbTF.jpg

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[08-Aug-19 04:03 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
fuck yeah tentacles ❤


[08-Aug-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
says the anime avatar


[08-Aug-19 04:07 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
well shit


[08-Aug-19 04:07 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
caught red handed


[08-Aug-19 04:08 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
well uhmmm


[08-Aug-19 04:09 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I also use fluttershy as an icon sometimes ;3


[08-Aug-19 04:10 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
should I actually do that tho record my fluttershy voice using trumplines then post here ?


[08-Aug-19 04:10 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
warning she will sound nasaly lol


[08-Aug-19 04:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
:nut: <the face trump makes when he talks about himself


[08-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theonion.com/tucker-carlson-insists-every-white-supremacist-in-ameri-1837045454

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[08-Aug-19 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't this guy super liberal like 15 years ago


[08-Aug-19 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really dislike how people don't challenge conservatives on their GW Bush support now, btw


[08-Aug-19 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone pretends to have hated him now


[08-Aug-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't even make sense, considering the average voter now thinks Bush was fine.


[08-Aug-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, maybe what you are seeing is people simply not realizing support for Bush was bad, not anyone actually pretending to hav hated him, but simply not needing to say anything on the matter cause it won't be used against them.


[08-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, voter A challenges conservative B on many things, but voter A conveniently forgot that a Republican administration lied to go to war, so voter A will never specifically press conservative B on that front, and conservative B would rather not remind them.


[08-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not pretending they hated Bush, they're pretending Bush didn't exist.


[08-Aug-19 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In hindsight there really wasn't an overreaction to Bush


[08-Aug-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's overall the grand Republican strategy, to push thru now and then when everyone figures out what horrible shit you did, it's too late and you can just move on.


[08-Aug-19 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was awful and one of the most incompetent presidents we've ever had


[08-Aug-19 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Move fast and break things, to the point that people fixing them can't catch you.


[08-Aug-19 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He couldn't have even run a baseball team let alone a country


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but he was a Republican


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
their goal isn't to run things competently.


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't to run things at all.


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also a war criminal


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their goal is to maintain power at all costs.


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the country must burn, so be it.


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again so is every president honestly


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
From that perspective, Bush was a great success.


[08-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama is a war criminal, so was Bill Clinton etc


[08-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He repeatedly sacrificed the country's economy and general prosperity to further Republican control.


[08-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO


[08-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Believing Bush to be a failure that conservatives should hate is a sign you don't understand conservatives.


[08-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have not had a president who has not done removal from office worthy offenses since the...60s probably


[08-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't keep score like it's a baseball game.


[08-Aug-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They keep score like it's a gang war.


[08-Aug-19 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The fact that we've let the office of the president get away with so much shit for the last few decades is disgusting


[08-Aug-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a baseball game, you count the number of bases you got, losing guys is a problem, etc.


[08-Aug-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a gang war, you count the number of the other side you took out, and don't care about your own losses much, as long as they're fewer.


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats play Baseball, Republicans play The Godfather.


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We are allowing an imperial presidency because people are willing to let it happen and trying to balance it with some four person presidency that now includes Senate majority and minority leader


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The presidency is powerful because congress is inept.


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats stopped giving a shit about local elections for decades, don't deny that


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has the power to stop the president


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The power the presidency is gaining is in leglislative areas.


[08-Aug-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using enforcement to write law.


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone in the past few decades pointed out how executive orders aren't good


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of people.


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you must understand.


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I am ignorant but they really seem like rule by decree


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress can't pass legislation 90% of the people support.


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How are they not


[08-Aug-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless like two guys with tons of money support it.


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of executive orders is to deal with details congress didn't think of.


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
To work within the legal framework.


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any military order given by the president without consent of Congress should not be allowed


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you are not understanding what's actually wrong here.


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should not have war powers period


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That is for Congress


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crazy EOs are a symptom, not a cause.


[08-Aug-19 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Declare war or shut up


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, Congress has the power at any time to stop the President.


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it never will.


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't impeach when things are split 50-50 by a two-party system.


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm waiting for when we have our Charles I parliament moment


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except Congress would turn the senators over


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell totally would


[08-Aug-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
We won't, that's not what's going on here.


[08-Aug-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
What we hav is similar to the late Roman Republic Senate when Caesar became consul.


[08-Aug-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except that instead of a smart Caesar going around trying to actually fix shit


[08-Aug-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
we hav a dumbass trying to break it


[08-Aug-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, neither side can enact meaningful changes because the other side can stop them.


[08-Aug-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only the big populist actually in charge can in theory get something done.


[08-Aug-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But to do so he must break the rules.


[08-Aug-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it doesn't matter whether he's from the conservative or reform faction, it's the same song and dance either way.


[08-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aristocrats who can't be kikked out of office don't want society to change.


[08-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a plutocracy with one guy whose sole job is to make the people get off their bakks.


[08-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans oppose any and all change because they hate Democrats


[08-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats want change, but they take such a measured approach that Republicans barely hav to fight to stop it.


[08-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of this system is so that the rich never actually get properly taxed.


[08-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Republicans completely won, they would fukk over the country so badly that they'd be ousted in a soft coup and Democrats would enact aggressive reforms in the chaos.


[08-Aug-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Democrats completely won, they might actually set something in stone that hurts the rich's coffers.


[08-Aug-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is thus advantageous for the rich to donate primarily to Republicans and to Democrats on the side to keep the fight going and going *slowly*.


[08-Aug-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the best way to maintain control is to create a very narrow slice of what is permitted, but to maintain lively debate within it.


[08-Aug-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans say to make healthcare private, Democrats say to carve out some restrictions and exceptions.


[08-Aug-19 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter who wins that fight, private health insurers make billions either way.


[08-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire fight going on in the Democratic party right now is between the shakkled beasts of corporate America (Biden) and loose cannons who the system missed (Bernie, Warren, etc.)


[08-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the former side is winning, because the structure is stakked against the latter.


[08-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even if Bernie comes into office with Warren as VP


[08-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
All he can do is write powerful EOs


[08-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
as congress remains divided


[08-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
unable to stop him, unable to pass laws


[08-Aug-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the EOs are just limited enuff in scope to not make permanent changes


[08-Aug-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so the pendulum swings, but very mildly


[08-Aug-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
each new presidency being just about repealing the actions of the previous one.


[08-Aug-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what corporate America wants.


[08-Aug-19 09:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Consume product then get excited for next product


[08-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Video the quote came from is dumb but it is a nice one


[08-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It brings some market uncertainty, but the minor shakeups ensure that industry is kept on its toes.


[08-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In fact the context of the quote is absolutely dumb to the point I take comfort in that it was in character


[08-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich are playing a game where they write the rules and are the only players.


[08-Aug-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, a bunch of rich aristocrats tend to cause trouble for everyone when they hold all the power in an ostensibly-Democratic system.


[08-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least in a strict oligarchy, there's usually an honor code they play by that people hold them too, and there's some transparency.


[08-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Its almost like race is used as the ultimate distraction to keep the classes that should have mutual interests from getting along


[08-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once you hav a Democratic setup, but ultimately an oligarchic control, it becomes all about hiding things.


[08-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And even mentioning that gets you accused of bringing up a race card


[08-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Race mixing is communism, remember.


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The right, who claims the left calls anything they disagree with Nazi, calls anything they disagree with socialist


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hilarious.


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fascism 101


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialist means nothing now.


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're just empowering actual socialists by making it mean nothing.


[08-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you need to do is always call out your enemies for bad behavior


[08-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and keep doing your own bad behavior


[08-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as you do it 100%


[08-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't win


[08-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can only tie


[08-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are far more extremist than you would think


[08-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that a lot of people want the future Ocasio-Cortez promises


[08-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But would never say it


[08-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'd vote for her but wouldn't admit it


[08-Aug-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter.


[08-Aug-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, what has to happen is for some kind of very large upset.


[08-Aug-19 09:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In other news, my milk went bad today. Socialist cows made it happen


[08-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if Warren got the nomination while Mitch died and Texas and Florida both flipped to blue.


[08-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to all happen at once.


[08-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it happens incrementally, coroporate America can just tweak the parties to maintain a 50-50 split.


[08-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part is that Texas and Florida are becoming blue because of a monkeys paw wish of Texans and Floridians


[08-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There has to be like, a situation of two-thirds of congress in control of the Democrats.


[08-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"hah you're moving out of your coastal states to us for better taxes"


[08-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they could enact changes that are just barely able to survive a Republican presidency


[08-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"wtf why are you still voting like you're in NY?!"


[08-Aug-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said changes could wound corporate control if they all come on at once.


[08-Aug-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if voting reform passed at the same time as lobbyist limits.


[08-Aug-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If voting reform passed in a different session, corporate America could simply switch tactics to keep lobbying stuff safe when the next session comes up


[08-Aug-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if it happens at once, they could be hosed because their whole system would fall apart.


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a neo FDR who gave no fucks and packed the court to get what they wanted


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time they'd adapt to the new environment, part of their control would be irreparably lost.


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, court pakking won't happen.


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in effect no longer allowable.


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
What would need to happen is a change of Congress.


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg has the best plan


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just the presidency


[08-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything going to the Judiciary is in itself a failure


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to write the law first.


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are going about it wrong because they aren't able to write laws yet.


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can only interpret them.


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
While interpreting them is necessary in many cases to prevent unravelling


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can't quite do all of what you want, at least reliably.


[08-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to first actually write law.


[08-Aug-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS can only unwrite bits that are unconstitutional.


[08-Aug-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could undo Roe v Wade tomorrow with SCOTUS and it'd just screw up a few states so badly that voters might throw out Republicans in some states.


[08-Aug-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The next presidency would come along and slowly nudge forward legislation guaranteeing some limited amount of abortion justifying it with the interstate commerce clause since people would be moving states for abortions.


[08-Aug-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And things would be right bakk to square one.


[08-Aug-19 10:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2bc90cb02dcd4192ad512f87bbf8d2d8

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HONG KONG (AP) — The U.S. government on Thursday stepped up its warnings to travelers to Hong Kong because of increasing violence surrounding pro-democracy protests in the Chinese city. The...
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[08-Aug-19 10:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/tns-jeffrey-epstein-florida-probe.html

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Jeffrey Epstein Sex Trafficking: Florida Governor Investigates Han...
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has ordered a state criminal probe into the actions of the Palm Beach sheriff and the former Palm Beach state attorney for their handling of the Jeffrey Epstein underage sex trafficking case.
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[08-Aug-19 11:35 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/embed/p07jzgq5/49261752

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'Kashmir is a volcano waiting to erupt'
Protests break out in Indian-administered Kashmir after the government revoked its special status.
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[08-Aug-19 11:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.huffingtonpost.in/amp/entry/kashmir-first-civilian-casualty-after-article-370-revoked_in_5d4ab624e4b0066eb70aaca3/


[08-Aug-19 11:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFbreUoaR4

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The Green Shirt Guy
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[08-Aug-19 11:58 AM] Crow#5457
> Arizona man goes viral as #GreenShirtGuy after laughing at #Trump supporters protesting sanctuary city resolution.


[08-Aug-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
"You're in direct violation of being a jackass."


[08-Aug-19 12:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/06/europe/russia-baby-opposition-rally-intl/index.html

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Moscow prosecutor's office is seeking to strip a couple of their parental rights for bringing a baby to an opposition rally in July, it said in a statement Tuesday.
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[08-Aug-19 12:02 PM] ononim#8141
``` The office alleged that the parents gave their 1-year-old son to a “third party” during the demonstration on July 27, claiming this “endangered the boy’s health and welfare, as well as causing him physical and moral harm.”

The statement added that prosecutors would apply to a court to relieve the parents of their parental rights.

Thousands turned out on July 27 and August 3 for unsanctioned rallies in Moscow to protest a move by authorities to bar opposition candidates from taking part in municipal elections next month.

Authorities said at the time that the candidates were barred from running because they had failed to obtain a sufficient number of signatures to be put on the ballot paper. Opposition politicians and supporters have rejected this allegation.

A total of over 2,000 people were arrested in the two demonstrations, which were peaceful but broken up by well-equipped riot police.```


[08-Aug-19 01:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Russian police would probably try and beat the baby with their batons. the concerns about his health are not far fetched.


[08-Aug-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Reddit is Leftist Central and r/The_Donald was Common Sense Conservativism’s only forward operating base on the site`

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[08-Aug-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This dude is a fucking treat, https://derpibooru.org/posts/posted?user_id=462524

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[08-Aug-19 04:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When the dilaectics are in motion and world history has never ended


[08-Aug-19 04:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
More and more I hold Mark Ames 19 year old shooting book as a great thing too. Gets me moist.

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[08-Aug-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28636123/exxonmobil-lawsuit-climage-change-new-york/

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The Oil Giants Might Finally Pay for Pulling the Biggest Hoax of All
New York State is alleging ExxonMobil knew the risks of climate change and defrauded its investors by misrepresenting them.
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[08-Aug-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
"They used the data to make their assets resilient to climate change, so the oil rigs account for sea level rise over the course of their life span."


[08-Aug-19 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Smoking is perfectly healthy, good for you even", says John Marlboro while donning air filtration mask after spotting someone pull out a cigarette


[08-Aug-19 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49275577

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'Brief radiation spike' after explosion in Russia
The explosion on a naval test range in Arkhangelsk region kills two people and injures six.
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[08-Aug-19 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The ministry said radiation levels were normal but the city of Severodvinsk registered a "brief spike" in levels.`

`Local people were reportedly urged to take precautions against radiation. No increase in ambulance call-outs was recorded, the administration added.`


[08-Aug-19 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`It is unclear what could have caused radiation levels to rise.`


[08-Aug-19 05:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, it's totally unclear that a test on a cruise missile with a nuclear warhead didn't go as planned...


[08-Aug-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
totally not a nuke, don;t pay attention to the smiling putin behind the lead curtain, He's unimportant


[08-Aug-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.wjtv.com/news/children-of-undocumented-immigrants-arrested-in-mississippi-rely-on-strangers-for-food-and-shelter/

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Children of undocumented immigrants arrested in Mississippi rely o...
FOREST, Miss. (WJTV) — Following a massive undocumented immigration enforcement operation that resulted in more than 650 arrests, many children of those taken into custody are now left homele…
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[08-Aug-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
```Following a massive undocumented immigration enforcement operation resulting in more than 650 arrests, many children of those taken into custody were left temporarily homeless.

Community leaders in Forest, Mississippi brought the children to a community gym to provide care and comfort. 12 News reporter Alex Love was granted permission to talk to community leaders and the children.

Children relied on neighbors and strangers to pick them up outside their homes after school. They drove the children to a community center where people tried to keep them calm. But many kids could not stop crying for mom and dad. ```


[08-Aug-19 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can hear the sound of Trump's pants getting tighter as he reads the news


[08-Aug-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3370c011e7304496a788bb4085bfffaf

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Number of migrants waiting at US border surges to 40,000
TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — The Cameroonian men who share 10 mattresses on the floor of a third-floor apartment above a barber shop walk every morning to the busiest U.S. border crossing with Mexico,...
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[08-Aug-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/trump-administration-reauthorizes-wildlife-killing-m-44-cyanide-bombs-despite-strong-opposition-2019-08-07/

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Trump Administration Reauthorizes Wildlife-killing M-44 ‘Cyanide...
Center for Biological Diversity: WASHINGTON— The Trump administration has reauthorized use of sodium cyanide in wildlife-killing devices called M-44s. These “cyanide bombs” received approval from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency despite inhumanely and indiscrimi...
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[08-Aug-19 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/UMY6HYf.jpg

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I’d watch it
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[08-Aug-19 11:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Problem is boomers will have decades of work experience which moves them up the list for even the most basic jobs. Decades of work experience seems to be a default requirement for getting a job today.

Should have rules such as not allowed to ask friends for work and not allowed to pick a job that can't cover their rent (not allowed to own a house)


[08-Aug-19 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
At the same time Boomers also have to tackle problems in regards to their lack of or percieved lack of technical skills in a particular area. We could in theory blame Boomers for everything bad but Gen X is probably better suited to deal with issues related to work experience and technical talent. Plenty of Boomers may slide easily into lower skill work like retail because of work expereince, but also because of lacking technical expertise or qualifications to go anywhere else. As an aside related to that I worked with an older guy at my last job who could in theory get into a relatively well paying tech job but could not afford to take a year or two of unpaid internship tech firms require or demand, unlike new zoomers or millennials who having gone through college may have the financial backing to still work through an internship if it wasn't part of their study.


[08-Aug-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1ed1a970f1c946f19665602b66b5bb1b

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Weakened but unbowed, NRA head digs in against gun control
In the aftermath of the back-to-back massacres in Texas and Ohio, the debate over gun control has returned to the National Rifle Association and its immense power to stymie any significant...
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[09-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tom-steyer-making-lost-time-dwarfs-2020-contenders/story?id=64806773

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Tom Steyer -- making up for lost time -- dwarfs other 2020 contend...
Tom Steyer has spent more than $6 million on television and online ads in the first month of his campaign, outspending other 2020 Democrats on ad expenditures.
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[09-Aug-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
who


[09-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I see only his ads and Trump's ads


[09-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a liberal billionaire


[09-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Investing in oil and gas was his thing


[09-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also spent tens of millions on impeachment ads


[09-Aug-19 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
any man who wears a plaid tie is not to be attended to


[09-Aug-19 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
DNR


[09-Aug-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Improving the US relationship with Scotland


[09-Aug-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/2tMlI8v

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Because reposting is the right thing to do
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[09-Aug-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
> I humbly submit my skills as a carpenter for construction of a guillotine or two


[09-Aug-19 03:51 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1159630998667239425

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Joe Biden slip-up in Iowa tonight.

"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."

Yikes...have fun mitigating that one. https://t.co/m2VxZbnFHF
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[09-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Is that an oof or a yikes?


[09-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'll have to go with a yikes. Oofs are supposed to be laughable at least.


[09-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
definitely a yikes


[09-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Lots of MAGA idiots apparently still under the delusion that Joe Biden is popular on the left


[09-Aug-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd say he's the opposite


[09-Aug-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden would have made an excellent republican back when they werent as terrifyingly batshit insane


[09-Aug-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god


[09-Aug-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again that's pretty much what happened to the democrats anyway, they became the party of the far less batshit republicans who couldnt make it in the actual republican party.


[09-Aug-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a0bfc23fae0a446d83d266c18efee051

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GOP freezes Twitter spending after McConnell account locked
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — The Republican Party, the Trump campaign and other GOP organizations said Thursday that they are freezing their spending on Twitter to protest the platform's treatment of...
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[09-Aug-19 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww is poor moscow addison hurt because his account got blocked for being a dick?


[09-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://img.youtube.com/vi/hC-4Igj5ass/0.jpg

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[09-Aug-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what would happen if people jsut stopped refering to him as mitch entirely and just refered to him by his old "unmanly" name


[09-Aug-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
addison


[09-Aug-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitc- oh


[09-Aug-19 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair people already call him bitch


[09-Aug-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems to revel in beign called bitch


[09-Aug-19 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one calls him addison though, and i;m wondering how much he hates his real name


[09-Aug-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though moscow mitch rolls off the tongue better


[09-Aug-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every Mitch I've known has been called "Mitch the Bitch" at some point


[09-Aug-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure he's used to that


[09-Aug-19 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/deported-iraqi-national-dies/index.html

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Iraqi national who'd lived whole life in US dies shortly after bei...
An Iraqi national who had lived in the US since he was an infant died shortly after being deported to Iraq as part of the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration.
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[09-Aug-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
[steeples fingers] all according to covfefe


[09-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
How very American


[09-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
kill someone by removing access to healthcare, via deporting them over a technicality.


[09-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
People say it's not about race, but the guy was like, literally all but born here.


[09-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And got deported to a place completely foreign to him.


[09-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
With his only connection being ethnic.


[09-Aug-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure if he was white, and got sent bakk to like, Greece, and then died for similar reasons, there'd be an uproar.


[09-Aug-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
to be fair, the guy apparently committed some pretty bad crimes, but he was also mentally ill and never got the care he needed


[09-Aug-19 06:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLrRA8uSxA

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[09-Aug-19 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://kotaku.com/walmart-asks-employees-to-remove-violent-video-game-sig-1837081837

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Walmart Asks Employees To Remove Violent Video Game Signage
For the past couple of days, Walmart employees have been receiving memos instructing them to remove “any signing or displays that contain violent images or aggressive behavior.” Principal among the suggested items are demos and signs promoting violent video games.
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[09-Aug-19 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pots and thrayers


[09-Aug-19 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
:ShirokuSadBoyo:


[09-Aug-19 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but you can still totally buy a daisy .22 rifle. With a lock built into it, so it's safe for kids to use


[09-Aug-19 06:41 AM] illumnious#7938
good greif


[09-Aug-19 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's literally right next to the toy aisles (at least, in the one nearest to where I live)


[09-Aug-19 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
seriously. Back left corner is outdoors/sporting goods on one side, pink aisle on the other


[09-Aug-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart is Republican.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They occasionally throw a bone to sustainability etc.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they are hardcore Republican.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, yes it is always next to the toy aisle.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the standard layout.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sporting goods next to toys next to electronics.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to put all the manly things in one area far from the womanly things.


[09-Aug-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that couples go all over the store


[09-Aug-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to go thru kitchenware to find stuff four your RV etc.


[09-Aug-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This just happens to put the gun counter an aisle or two from the lego.


[09-Aug-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho it might be structured to create an age gradient.


[09-Aug-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, past sporting goods is auto


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the idea might be toys -> sports -> guns -> cars


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the progression of a boy to a man.


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the thing that bugs me is that in every sporting goods store I've ever been in, the *guns* are under lock and key behind glass with all the other dangerous things like...titanium rainbow folding knives, or things that just barely skirt the legal definition of knuckle dusters.... but the ammo is stocked over the counter on shelves packed like sardines


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause display case


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's, y'know, cheaper than the athletic socks on the other side of the store


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not really lokked to prevent theft


[09-Aug-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's there to allure you into buying.


[09-Aug-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you're the kid in A Christmas Story


[09-Aug-19 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean...it should not be easier to shoplift a box of greentips than a nike golf shirt


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see a shiny gun in a case and you want it


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you feel like you hav to work for it


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause you gotta ask


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and an employee has gotta be brought out


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a whole process that makes you feel like you really deserve that gun.


[09-Aug-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
casual reminder some TV networks marathon A Christmas Story


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well by that logic why not make every trip feel special, like cigarettes?


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is a story about a kid who wants a damn gun for Christmas


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and must fight society to get it


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's basically really subtle indoctrination to be a gun-loving American


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cigarettes are bought by people with less money


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They also stream the Ten Commandments movie which...I mean, come on


[09-Aug-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cigarettes are also bought very often


[09-Aug-19 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and ammo isn't?


[09-Aug-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
making it a hassle to get them means that people buy less


[09-Aug-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
ammo is, that's why it's not in a special case etc.


[09-Aug-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but is instead pakked like sardines


[09-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hassle is thus best put on the guns.


[09-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the ammo.


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Walmart is absolutely corporate as fukk and they are happy to milk this controversy to increase gun sales.


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
While using a scapegoat to deflect some blame.


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals won't buy it, but they're not the target.


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The target is the customerbase


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
who are mainly elderly and poor and vote Republican and want to buy American


[09-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the video game aisle is solely to try to lure in teenagers who get swept in by their parents.


[09-Aug-19 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, when a box of .30-06 costs less than a taco 12-pack, I don't think the "less money" argument holds up


[09-Aug-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less money?


[09-Aug-19 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the thing about "cigarettes are bought by people with less money"


[09-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no no


[09-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't mean that the product is bought because of its price


[09-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean the type of person who buys it is of a different class


[09-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cigarettes are bought by people in absolutely *poverty*


[09-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
ammo is bought by people who are slightly higher on the social ladder and hav more to spend, but they visit less frequently


[09-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, ammo can't be jakked up much in price cause people will wait to buy it


[09-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cigarettes people will buy IMMEDIATELY


[09-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're similar to food in that regard


[09-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is also why food is more expensive than ammo


[09-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
People can't survive without food.


[09-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it has to be only cheaper than competing stores until those stores go out of business.


[09-Aug-19 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That first part sounds pretty anecdotal but since we're comparing bullets to bagels, can we discuss the "milk and bread" runs on ammo sales that happen every time a politician threatens to maybe check if you should be buying guns and ammo


[09-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The type of people who buy guns and ammo hav disposable income to burn on a non-necessity, they will pay out the ass for a gun that feels special


[09-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't pay out the ass tho for the ammo when they come bakk every few months.


[09-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes, Walmart will be making bank off this in the sporting goods section.


[09-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone will want the weapons the shooters had.


[09-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Claiming they want to shoot the next shooter.


[09-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of them might become the next shooter.


[09-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And will not be shot by any of the others.


[09-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
the NRA screams about second amendment violations every time there's talks of taxing bullets


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, it's all song and dance


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No legislation will be made


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
iirc one time, it was compared to poll taxes


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart will make money while blaming gamers


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch will be reelected while blaming gamers


[09-Aug-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are a plague on society.


[09-Aug-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers will vote for them in droves, along with Biden.


[09-Aug-19 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile all the Sanders voters that defected to Trump are now defecting to Yang


[09-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if anything does come of it legislatively


[09-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll be some absolute shite targeting game sales


[09-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Likely with a side of targeting Netflix for censorship.


[09-Aug-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause now the normal censorship means are falling apart due to online distribution.


[09-Aug-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can actually make your NC-17 rated film etc.


[09-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are afraid of freedom, effectively.


[09-Aug-19 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless that freedom is in the form of *District of Columbia v. Heller* apparently


[09-Aug-19 07:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Between that, *Citizens United v. FEC,* and *Burnwell v. Hobby Lobby,* the SCOTUS has altered the landscape of politics in the US to the point where I'm drawing comparisons to the freshly-painteed wall of the barn in Animal Farm


[09-Aug-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/status/1159643459055042560?s=19

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[09-Aug-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids...*clapping starts*...wealthy kids, black kids, asian kids..."


[09-Aug-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy literally managed to conflate his equality of race speech with equality of wealth.


[09-Aug-19 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can't wait to go back to colege where my entire class will talk about guns and, how the government is coming for their guns so they should buy more guns to fight the government, and good guys with guns, and hunting, and how gun control laws wouldn't have a 100% efficiency thusw making them pointless


[09-Aug-19 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the fact that it's an hvac class and talk of guns shouldn't be a fucking thing...


[09-Aug-19 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more guns will solve all the guns! it;s the only fucking answer!


[09-Aug-19 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Suicidal maniacs won't try anything if they know anyone could have a gun!


[09-Aug-19 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It makes perfect sense


[09-Aug-19 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/955b8436cd084f58a42ff96ee78330ac because of course he is

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[09-Aug-19 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://time.com/5644147/mass-shootings-mental-health/

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[09-Aug-19 01:48 PM] ononim#8141
SUicidal maniacs aren't the only people who can enact violence, and mass shootings aren't the only form of shootings


[09-Aug-19 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
maybe not doing stochastic terrorism then being surprised when actual terrorism happens is a solution


[09-Aug-19 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
rly makes u thonk


[09-Aug-19 01:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
allowing stochastic terrorism in the name of free speech lead here


[09-Aug-19 01:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
that and capitalism


[09-Aug-19 01:49 PM] ononim#8141
~~also almost all shooters are some sort of ultra-right wing nuts like nazies or ultra trads, even if "xdddd edgy jokes" variant, really makes you think~~


[09-Aug-19 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
they're cold, calculated and sane


[09-Aug-19 01:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
:glowing_eyes:

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[09-Aug-19 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
they're far from 'mentally ill'


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
mind you


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
prozac is  pretty bad


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's basically prole-meth


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
to treat symptoms of y'know


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
being miserable because you're poor and a wage slave usually


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
most people's depression isn't 'natural'


[09-Aug-19 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's caused by their shitty life, which is caused by capitalism


[09-Aug-19 01:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mass shooting may not really even be random killings but very targeted. But in the short-sightedness of the immediate event we may not see it into he tunnel vision. Media responses may cloud it especially if they don't add anything to the discourse of "why" and shovel blame onto some third party reason


[09-Aug-19 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
hell, heritable mental illness tends to mostly be a thing because your parents repeat the kinds of abuses they were subject to


[09-Aug-19 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
genetic pre-dispositions if they are a case, don't even mean you'll even get something


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even during the time of slavery slave revolts were never blamed on slavery because that framework of cause and effect didn't exist. So when Nat Turner tried to trigger a revolt the excuse of the time was Jacobin Anarchists and mental illness, if not even some "natural degeneracy of the negro".


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
Now trans people


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
you don't see us shooting up shit


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
and society treats us like shit


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
we're always mentally ill pretty much as a side effect of society treating us like shit


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
I think we've had one??? trans duder?


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think it's something like 1 in 6 Americans are bipolar.


[09-Aug-19 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
that shot up a school


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
mind you, wouldn't have happened if there wasn't some of that classic transphobia everywhere prolly


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
but that's not mental illness causing it


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's people doing shitty things, systemic things


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like it's a systemic issue 😮


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
So in that instance shouldn't we have more? It's possible that environmental concerns aggrivate manic depression into a psychotic episode of violence because they are more sensitive to workplace stress and the inhumanity of capitalist logic.


[09-Aug-19 01:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mmanning24/status/1159303449772621825?s=21

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[09-Aug-19 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
Well the theory would be, you would think, trans people should be far more likely to commit mass shootings were it mental illness


[09-Aug-19 01:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Wew lad


[09-Aug-19 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
most people with depression just wanna stay in bed and do nothing anyway lmao


[09-Aug-19 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, we don't


[09-Aug-19 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
we don't commit mass shootings, stabbings, anything


[09-Aug-19 01:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
@dissociativity R a d i c a l   t r a n s   m i l i t i a   t i m e


[09-Aug-19 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's because the administration that participates in stochastic terrorism is deliberately choosing to avoid investigating domestic terror


[09-Aug-19 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wonder why that might be


[09-Aug-19 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
hmmmmmmm


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
I need to get more pictures of Going Postal. Every page in that book is gold.


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
and it's too late


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
were we to have bernie in or some shit, the cultural damage is already done


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
American culture even fucks up others like Australia


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
we're very influenced unfortunately


[09-Aug-19 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
and Europe is full of white nationalists too since at least 2015


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] ononim#8141
Daily reminder what Reagan started supported Gun Control when he was Cali Governor suspiciously around the time black people started to organize themselvesto prtoect their communities from police brutality and ~~other~~ white supermacist groups


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
free speech is okay even when you're advocating for genocide or for conspiracy theories that could only be 'fixed' with genocide


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
yup.


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
y'know


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
trans open carry gang would stop this from happening


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
but no


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] ononim#8141
God I hate how everything happening in US has to affect every other country dialogue


[09-Aug-19 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
tfw no SKS raifu to open-carry


[09-Aug-19 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, it's disgusting


[09-Aug-19 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
culture has basically merged into one American blob that affects all


[09-Aug-19 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
then you sorta have a tiny drop of your country's genuine culture


[09-Aug-19 02:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
probably because America pretty much owns the media


[09-Aug-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s fucked to hell


[09-Aug-19 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
it might even have something to do with the modern concept of 'whiteness' that these fuckers love so much


[09-Aug-19 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
pre-9/11 Arabs were Caucasian afaik


[09-Aug-19 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
now they're ebil invaders outbreeding da whiteys


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] byte[]#2610
> expecting the GOP to care


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
Hell, plenty of indians were afaik


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
not that whiteness actually ever meant anything


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's just ever-changing goal-post moving blob of a concept


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, that's the whole point of it


[09-Aug-19 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
swarthy brown people built civilisation anyway


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
Greeks weren't exactly pale, Rome didn't care about your race at all in the slightest


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] byte[]#2610
`it's caused by their shitty life, which is caused by capitalism` you hit me right in the feels with that one


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
Middle East invented a shittone of fancy things


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] ononim#8141
>when hairy wood monkeys from some frozen bog peninsula who can only built hats and live in tribes took you civilisation acomplishments and call thenselves the civilized world


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
whiteness is a meme


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
anglos on the other hand


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] ononim#8141
Fertile Crecent Gang


[09-Aug-19 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
wouldn't bath nor brush their hair


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
literally got cuckolded by nordic peoples


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
because they were pretty and bathed


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] ononim#8141
I am reminded of that one /int/ meme


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
while algos just died of plague from lack of hygiene


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
truly the impressive 'white' race


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
but now nords count as white of course


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure at taht time you're referencing there was no major plague tho at the time and place


[09-Aug-19 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
despite being quite different there


[09-Aug-19 02:05 PM] ononim#8141
so they were just outfabuloused by murder sailors


[09-Aug-19 02:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean anglos weren't known for their cleanliness


[09-Aug-19 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there likely wasn't a major plague but disease was still rampant due to lack of hygeine


[09-Aug-19 02:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
british 'people'


[09-Aug-19 02:05 PM] ononim#8141
I think it's less cinfusing to reffer population of would be england as Saxons


[09-Aug-19 02:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, whiteness is dumb, IRA chads at least tend to understand this and hate anglo scum


[09-Aug-19 02:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
Irish have a lot of reasons to want 'white genocide' lmao


[09-Aug-19 02:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
some of you are alright, don't park in london tomorrow


[09-Aug-19 02:07 PM] ononim#8141
Interesting how of the three groups of people what seetled SOuth britain, one group name is all but forgotten, and other was used as the name for them throught the centuries, only to be overshadowed by the other for some reason


[09-Aug-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
us vs. them is another stupid as shit mentality


[09-Aug-19 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
I kid, it's just fun to shitpost about anglos


[09-Aug-19 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
people that jerk themselves off to 'whiteness' seethe at it


[09-Aug-19 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
the only us is the proletariat


[09-Aug-19 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
and the them is the bourgeoisie


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] ononim#8141
Why didn't other langauge become dominant lingua franca


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
race is a meme


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
race wars are a meme


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] ononim#8141
at least with French you KNOW what half of the letters aren't prnounced, and they are always not pronounced


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
race is a gene


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] ononim#8141
race is a meme


[09-Aug-19 02:10 PM] ononim#8141
Unironically in the Dawk's sense of the word


[09-Aug-19 02:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
@dissociativity Reminder Anglo-Saxon women desired Viking men because the Vikings took efforts to bathe and improve their physical appearence. Where as Anglo men didn't care as a culture.


[09-Aug-19 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bf77af0e76664973b45fcf1547f91580

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says he's talking with the powerful National Rifle Association and others to make sure that their "very strong views" about the Second Amendment are...
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[09-Aug-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/07/heartbreaking-scene-boston-streets-police-destroy-wheelchairs-belonging-homeless?amp

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"Can we all agree that it is inhumane and cruel and a waste of resources to crush the wheelchairs of people who are living on the street after a car accident in a full body cast?"
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[09-Aug-19 03:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Aug-19 03:37 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in 1930s germany


[09-Aug-19 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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ESPN and ABC has made the decision not to air the TV broadcast of the XGames Apex Legends EXP Invitational that was scheduled for this weekend, in response to the recent mass shootings, according to an ABC Affiliate TV station source
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[09-Aug-19 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Aug-19 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2019/08/08/walmart-mass-shooting-stores-removing-violent-video-game-displays/1962146001/

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Following two shootings inside its stores, Walmart is removing violent video game displays and signs from stores, the retailer confirmed Thursday.
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[09-Aug-19 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Walmart removing violent video game displays, signs from stores but still selling guns`

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[09-Aug-19 05:18 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Aug-19 05:20 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Aug-19 05:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Aug-19 06:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wow I can't believe mass shootings cancelled eSports 😔😔😔


[09-Aug-19 06:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
HAAAW YEE SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THE INDIVIDUALIST WORLD OF AMERICA AND NOT A JAPANESE DRONE

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[09-Aug-19 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Be careful the US might arrest you for posting _copyrighted material_

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[09-Aug-19 06:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It hurts me deeply that "Big Brother" is a soap opera for idiots and the name can no longer be used for a series set in a 1984 setting


[09-Aug-19 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-melania-baby-el-paso-thumbs-up-hospital-parents-mass-shooting-a9049086.html

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Grinning Trump gives thumbs-up with baby whose parents were shot d...
Infant was brought for photo op at hospital where patients refused to meet president
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[09-Aug-19 07:40 PM] ononim#8141
I am honestly intrigued whenever he does shit like this what drove him mainly in each case, his dementia or absolute narcisim and no regard about others besides him


[09-Aug-19 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The latter


[09-Aug-19 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's the rich villain in a TV movie for kids


[09-Aug-19 07:42 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah, as somoene put it, "he's a villain in the movie in which the protagonist is a dog"


[09-Aug-19 07:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine building a skyscraper apartment with only two housing units per floor. https://youtu.be/zVDssVjdAZI

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honker 3d
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Stupid City - Tax Haus (with donoteat)
Today we're taking a trip to Philadelphia to learn about the Ten Year Tax Abatement, the Art Haus, and a curious city councilman named Allan Domb. With speci...
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[09-Aug-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Walmart (WMT) has previously promoted violent video games in its stores with displays that demonstrate the games. Some shoppers could conceivably mistake the soundtrack of those games for actual gunshots. Walmart and its customers are particularly sensitive to gun shot sounds following two recent fatal shootings at Walmarts in Texas and Mississippi."


[09-Aug-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/plrW5kXCR94

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What Happens When Ben Shapiro Is In Your Video?
This is just a recap of the reaction to a recent video published on this channel which featured Ben Shapiro. When Should You Leave An Interview: https://yout...
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[09-Aug-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/05/weekend-gun-violence-mass-shootings/

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7 Killed, 46 Wounded In Weekend Shootings; 'It's Destroying The Fi...
“Please stop. It's killing our families, it's destroying the fiber of our communities. We have to stop this senseless killing,” said Keith Flowers, whose son was killed in a mass shooting in Lawndale on Sunday.
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[09-Aug-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was another shooting, this time in chicago


[09-Aug-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 shootings actually...


[09-Aug-19 11:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
FFS Vidya games did it.


[09-Aug-19 11:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
tru


[09-Aug-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Aug-19 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
Wow, this is so bad, after all young LGBT people in non suportive households, a demographic very prone to suffer a depression, constitute a majority of shooters in america, proving what it is indeed mental illness what is driving force behind them, and not murderous idelogies what almost every shooter sprout out! /s


[10-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
*[angry Dino noises]*
https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/epa-reauthorizes-use-of-cyanide-bombs-to-kill-wild-animals/amp/

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EPA reauthorizes use of ‘cyanide bombs’ to kill wild animals
The Trump administration has reauthorized the use of controversial traps dubbed “cyanide bombs” to kill coyotes, foxes and other animals across the US. The Environmental Protection Agency announced…
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[10-Aug-19 12:15 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Wal-Mart: we will not advertise violent video games cause we think they cause school shootings. 

Also Wal-Mart:
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[10-Aug-19 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Capitalism.jpg


[10-Aug-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/yYlDPHn

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Scapegoating
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[10-Aug-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Gg2lToO.jpg

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[10-Aug-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CallMeKevin: "Bring back the schools where all of the kids die!"


[10-Aug-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Comments: "Guess he hasn't been to America"


[10-Aug-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Xo3wfp6

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It’s true.
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[10-Aug-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Hispanics have lived in the United States so long that the cities kept their names. El Paso, Las Vegas, San Francisco, San Antonio, etc.


[10-Aug-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
> You expect an American to be aware of geography and history?

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[10-Aug-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/09/el-paso-attack-police-says-gunman-confessed-targeting-mexicans/1968905001/

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El Paso gunman confessed to targeting Mexicans, police say
The gunman accused of opening fire at an El Paso Walmart, killing 22 people, confessed to authorities that he had been targeting Mexicans, authorities say.
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[10-Aug-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
naaaaah, who woulda thunk


[10-Aug-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that translated the Angel's official name is "The The Angels Angels of Anaheim"


[10-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/jeffrey-epstein-demanded-three-orgasms-a-day-like-eating-court-docs/

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Jeffrey Epstein demanded ‘three orgasms a day… like eating’:...
Jeffrey Epstein had an insatiable sexual appetite that included using strap-on dildos during threesomes with his alleged madame and underage victims — and a required “three orgasms a da…
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[10-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[10-Aug-19 01:56 AM] illumnious#7938

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[10-Aug-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the continuation of gun sales


[10-Aug-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get your great value brand rifle today!


[10-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-arrests-las-vegas-man-who-allegedly-wanted-shoot-jews-n1041031

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FBI arrests Las Vegas man who allegedly wanted to shoot Jews, LGBT...
Conor Climo, 23, communicated with organized white supremacists through encrypted messages, federal authorities said.
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[10-Aug-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.derpibooru.org/images/2113532#comment_8359944

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[10-Aug-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let's get lit


[10-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the guy who was complaining about people calling HDD racist


[10-Aug-19 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What is HDD


[10-Aug-19 03:53 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
hot dog dimension


[10-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
hotdiggedydemon


[10-Aug-19 03:55 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
how is max even racist? wtf


[10-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
he apparently started working somewhere and quit a few weeks later because of how uncomfortable he was making his co-workers, and he said a bunch of racist shit or something


[10-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well


[10-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is not a stranger to racial humor


[10-Aug-19 04:01 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
Yeah, i mean it seems more for comedy really


[10-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldn;t call him a total racist though


[10-Aug-19 04:01 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
Besides, su kinda stinks


[10-Aug-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Racial humor is a very hit or miss type of comedy that if it misses it makes people very uncomfortable


[10-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He never got any job


[10-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically there are people with axes to grind against him that ensure he doesn't get hired


[10-Aug-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I hear it's treated like a John K thing


[10-Aug-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i actually like quite a bit of his work online


[10-Aug-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't most of his stuff these days just higher quality Foamy?


[10-Aug-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know, i havent watched foamy in a long ass time


[10-Aug-19 04:06 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
He does reviews and critiques, mostly of movies


[10-Aug-19 04:06 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
He animates them still with him and some other characters doing a show, its pretty good


[10-Aug-19 04:06 AM] ShrimpShogun#0676
I think it was called braindump


[10-Aug-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called braindump, yes


[10-Aug-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
taking a dump on your brain


[10-Aug-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's actually pretty insightful on the subject of animation and character design


[10-Aug-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for that blacklist, he;d have probably attempted to create a full series by now


[10-Aug-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk


[10-Aug-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He made the one Sonic movie redesign that didn't look good IMO


[10-Aug-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he's edgy.


[10-Aug-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am so tired of news articles about how 5G is going to be so amazing and life altering it'll suck my balls out through my dick


[10-Aug-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget that the "G" standards had to be lowered because marketing used them improperly in a successful gambit to lower consumer expectations because capitalism is horrid.


[10-Aug-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, news is just mostly another gear in the machine.


[10-Aug-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will generally sukk unless a gov't option gets tossed in to force away some of the scummier parts and raise standards.


[10-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait for the future where my toilet refuses to flush because of timezone drift or a bad firmware update made its GPS think it's in the wrong country so my license is invalid for my area or my secure certificate broken


[10-Aug-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, your toilet flushes, but then informs you you're being evicted because it detected alcohol in your urine.


[10-Aug-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your TV then refuses to turn on because of that.


[10-Aug-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time you get it thru your landlord's thikk skull that the time was set wrong on the smarthome so you are allowed to drink that night, you then find the SIM card you put in the TV is invalid and thus you are denied wifi and phone service over a piece of shoddy hardware that we nearly replaced with software until phone companies sabotaged the project.


[10-Aug-19 05:01 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
i wanna see a story about this future just because of the comedy, drama, and fetishes it can create


[10-Aug-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you hav a fetish for corporations deliberately destroying anything that would make the system more efficient but as a byproduct increase consumer choice?


[10-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[10-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You have a snuff and torture/despair fetish


[10-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So I'm sure this exists


[10-Aug-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just seems so clinical to relegate it to corporate overlords you don't even meet.


[10-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a fetish for movies where the aliens never actually show up, but are mentioned.


[10-Aug-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WiFiWitch AT&T allows you to pee, but to them, you're just another urinous datapoint.


[10-Aug-19 05:07 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
I just wanna see someone piss themselves cause their smart toilet's wifi is out and it refuses to work without it


[10-Aug-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You report the duration and difficulty of your bowel movements, but it's just a server on some shelf that looks at it, processes the numbers, and determines that your diarrhea is "hilarious", with a hilarity score of 7.9, considered adequate to report to close friends over drinks.


[10-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Princess Luna (Nebbie):
It's like a fetish for movies where the aliens never actually show up, but are mentioned.`


[10-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I feel attacked


[10-Aug-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They piss themselves, but the only thing around to witness it is a small robot whose job is to change their diapers. They fall over dead from diabetes because medicare for all for the 20th time has been rejected by Cyborg Mitch McConnell


[10-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I actually spent the day writing that


[10-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[10-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Ah I see you've watched the NatGeo documentary 2057


[10-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where a kid takes down the electric grid of a 2057 city by putting a 90s era virus on the network


[10-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
When someone tries to report on the horror of their situation, the media collectively shuns it because rich people pull the strings.


[10-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, we talked about this, and I don't think it was NatGeo.


[10-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure it was, I just love how the mini series ended with a Russo-American war being barely avoided


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_realizes improved health tech and lack of term limits means infinite mitch is possible_


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And an American and Russian on the ISS talking about 2107


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said rich people create ways to deflect blame by making it all about the hilarity of pissing yourself, and how that's "unacceptable" to "seriously discuss", instead of allowing people to realize that diabetes shouldn't be a death sentence, etc.


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes we went over that too.


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was pretty dumb that BETTER SOLAR PANELS were key


[10-Aug-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the Bush era


[10-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
bitch by 2057, solar panels are going to be ridiculous


[10-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You want a super terrible mockumentary, watch Smallpox 2002


[10-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They didn't really understand how smallpox works before making the thing


[10-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2057_(TV_series)

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2057 is a Discovery Channel television program hosted by theoretical physicist Michio Kaku. It premiered on January 28, 2007, and attempts to predict what the world will be like in 50 years based on current trends. The show takes the form of a docu-drama with three separate e...


[10-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Discovery Channel.


[10-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's chicken pox but itchier!


[10-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it was China, Its


[10-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
not Russia


[10-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
China isn't allowed on the ISS btw


[10-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
because boomers in congress literally believe that having China help us develop technology that could save astronaut's lives will be the thing that makes China able to beat us in a war


[10-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Docking couplers too small


[10-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA is completely disallowed from any and all cooperation with China in any way, ever.


[10-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't even talk to them.


[10-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that scenario in the Martian? A lot of people would be going to jail for a very long time.


[10-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_checks if Tencent Pictures funded that film_


[10-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, NASA was allowed to indirectly talk with the Soviet space program


[10-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
doing so was rather important on occasion cause there was a very real possibility of the Soviets making their space program try to sabotage NASA


[10-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, the Soviets sent a probe to land on the moon while Apollo 11 was doing its thing, in an attempt to steal some of the glory etc. with "hah, we did it WITHOUT RISKING LIVES"


[10-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It crashed tho


[10-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but before that, NASA had to hav an astronaut call up the Soviets to make sure the radio frequencies used wouldn't make them unable to talk to Apollo 11 properly


[10-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's funny cause its landing spot was also pretty damn close to Apollo 11 on the scale of the size of the Moon, so it was pretty clearly a ballsy attempt to say OUR PROBE WAS THERE TOO


[10-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when it crashed, the Soviets did the usual thing of just not talking about it after.


[10-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I forget, is there a serious plan for getting back to the moon next decade, or is it hurf blurf?


[10-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hurf blurf.


[10-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Lunar Gateway is nowhere.


[10-Aug-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLS is a rokket to nowhere.


[10-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moon to get to Mars sounds nice to people without a clue how space works.


[10-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump insists btw that he doesn't like that idea cause MARS BETTER THAN MOON


[10-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
MOON JUST STEP STONE


[10-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he understands less about space than a first grader.


[10-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the idea of Lunar Gateway is it does a figure 8 around Earth/Moon


[10-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Likely thinks Mars is just, like, twice the distance away from us as the moon


[10-Aug-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way it's hard for any spacecraft anywhere to get to it.


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that the ISS has artificial gravity


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Justifying the absolutely stupid launch capability of the SLS.


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it'll store hydrogen long-term


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
which isn't really possible


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it will do so in very large quantities


[10-Aug-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that it can be less possible.


[10-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Boeing will use a Moon-single-stage lander on hydrogen, so that it's even *less* possible, plus astronauts need an elevator to get on and off the lunar surface.


[10-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(14m is a bit too much for a ladder, they feel)


[10-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rope on a conveyor


[10-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, SLS Block II is based around the idea of leaving large tanks of hydrogen in space


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of recovering anything


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have they figured how to not give martianauts cancer yet


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
because *THAT* will totally make space less costly


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also they're still working on a power system for a Moon or Mars colony to run off nuclear without serious issues easily happening.


[10-Aug-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're nowhere close to being able to do Moon base off solar.


[10-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 weeks of cold and dark is just too much.


[10-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also don't know how to sustain a Mars colony, current plans are to just send all the resources and return craft ahead of time.


[10-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[10-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not happening.


[10-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is the only organization that might even send a person in lunar orbit in the next decade.


[10-Aug-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very likely at this point that we enter an era of human history where men hav been to the moon, but none of them are currently alive.


[10-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and NASA's plan to return to the moon is deliberately targeted for after Trump's presidency ends even if he's reelected.


[10-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I expect India will have a go and just leave whoever they send to die there, just to prove they can


[10-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which very clearly signals it being a fake goal.


[10-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of what NASA does is create fake goals


[10-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause they don't actually exist to achieve things


[10-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they exist as a very expensive jobs program for certain senators.


[10-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why SLS is Shuttle-Derived Launch System #5.


[10-Aug-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
#3 had a 100% chance to kill all the astronauts if there was a breakup of the boosters within 30 seconds of launch btw.


[10-Aug-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They pulled the plug right after it launched a demonstration mass just to the point of booster sep and saw whether it was aerodynamically stable (it wasn't)


[10-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLS has had several recent delays


[10-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its plug will probably be pulled sometime next year.


[10-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, right as it becomes ready for a test launch.


[10-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so if Trump presses again to put astronauts on launch one.


[10-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, Boeing and SpaceX are close to being able to send astronauts, and might do so by early next year.


[10-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is only like 5 years behind schedule.


[10-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Certain senators been trying to kill that hav failed, altho they sure succeeded at ignoring requests to giv it proper funding so it could happen on time.


[10-Aug-19 05:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nowhere else to go but down.

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[10-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just wait until a pound is a dollar.


[10-Aug-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
stonks


[10-Aug-19 05:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Waiting until £1 = 1VEF


[10-Aug-19 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
big stonk


[10-Aug-19 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49294301

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'Even I will pick up a gun': Inside Kashmir's lockdown
A sense of deep betrayal by the Indian government is fuelling anger in the Muslim-majority valley.
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[10-Aug-19 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like it's time for another good old fashioned in the open ethnic cleansing no one will do anything about because that may affect ~the markets~


[10-Aug-19 12:56 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I just heard about some guy making a bomb that failed thanfully to kill lgtb jews


[10-Aug-19 12:56 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
at a gay bar


[10-Aug-19 12:57 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure it's jsut a fault of video games and mental illness plus girls not fucking him and not any sort of political motivation /s


[10-Aug-19 12:57 PM] ononim#8141
and yeah I seen the article too


[10-Aug-19 12:57 PM] ononim#8141
one minute


[10-Aug-19 12:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I just woke up and watch the news


[10-Aug-19 12:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and yeah the guy looked like all of them


[10-Aug-19 12:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh


[10-Aug-19 12:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
that reminds me


[10-Aug-19 01:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eaton_Township_Weis_Markets_shooting

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Eaton Township Weis Markets shooting
In the early hours on the morning of June 8, 2017, employees at a Weis Markets supermarket in Eaton Township, Pennsylvania, were stocking and closing the store for the night. Shortly before 1:00 a.m., 24-year-old Randy Stair barricaded the exits of the store and proceeded to ...
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[10-Aug-19 01:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
have any of you guys heard about this ?


[10-Aug-19 01:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
some guy killing people for his ghost waifu


[10-Aug-19 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
yeah


[10-Aug-19 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
I think derpi has some of his pics actually


[10-Aug-19 01:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh shit


[10-Aug-19 01:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I mean I like emeber to but


[10-Aug-19 01:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
this guy is just one huge mental case


[10-Aug-19 01:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
have you seen the video when he bought the gun and hes bringing it home ?


[10-Aug-19 01:07 PM] ononim#8141
I prefer to not have "cringe" as cause of death, thank you


[10-Aug-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its still scary tho I just thought about that video of him bringing that gun home during these shootings


[10-Aug-19 01:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
to think they all have the same feeling


[10-Aug-19 01:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-neo-nazi-charged-plot-bomb-gay/story?id=64895586

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Neo-Nazi charged with plot to bomb gay club, synagogue
The FBI arrested and charged an alleged Las Vegas neo-Nazi with plotting to bomb a synagogue and gay club in the city on Thursday.
Conor Climo, 23, who worked as a security guard, allegedly was found to be in possession of bomb-making materials and was "communicating with ind...
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[10-Aug-19 01:10 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
what the fuck is his face tho


[10-Aug-19 01:10 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
sorry I know the stroy is sad


[10-Aug-19 01:10 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but his fucking face


[10-Aug-19 01:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ANINewsUP/status/1159193948444905472

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Security tightened in Aligarh Muslim University in view of tentative debate by students on Kashmir issue. Police say, "We recieved info that some students were going to have a debate on Kashmir issue & scrapping of Article 370. As precautionary measure,we've deployed force...
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[10-Aug-19 01:11 PM] ononim#8141
```Security tightened in Aligarh Muslim University in view of tentative debate by students on Kashmir issue. Police say, "We recieved info that some students were going to have a debate on Kashmir issue & scrapping of Article 370. As precautionary measure,we've deployed force" (7.8)```


[10-Aug-19 01:11 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait did this just happen ?


[10-Aug-19 01:11 PM] ononim#8141
Actually a few days ago, at the start of it


[10-Aug-19 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
But nice to see what even debate about it is met with aremd police "making sure everything will be fine" /s


[10-Aug-19 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
Thanks Modi, very cool


[10-Aug-19 01:12 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft right


[10-Aug-19 01:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Michael-Browns-father-seeks-new-investigation-into-killing-530798891.html

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Michael Brown's father seeks new investigation into killing
On the fifth anniversary of Michael Brown's death in Ferguson, his father urged St. Louis County's top prosecutor Friday to reopen the investigation into the white police officer who fatally shot the black and unarmed 18-year-old.
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[10-Aug-19 01:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are trying to bring this shit back


[10-Aug-19 01:17 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
wasnt the kid filmed kicking old people around ?


[10-Aug-19 01:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Suspect-told-his-sister-he-wanted-to-conduct-a-social-experiment-530944771.html

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POLICE: Suspect told his sister he wanted to conduct a social expe...
Andreychenko told investigators that he put on body armor to protect himself after several recent shootings across the country.
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[10-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the Midwest, so you can't be afraid of a random guy walking into a public space with a gun and bulletproof vest


[10-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People only get afraid of that in New York or California, right, let's ignore the Walmart shootings were both in red states


[10-Aug-19 02:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well once upon a Time even highschool students here in Michigan could get away with a gun rack in their car/truck with a rifle mounted for hunting. But that's the sort of thing I've started expecting further south in the Midwest.


[10-Aug-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/512e84b1505044a8af77fc10883c0cc0

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Trump-McConnell 2020? Senate leader glues self to president
WASHINGTON (AP) — It's not quite "Trump-McConnell 2020," but it might as well be. As he runs for reelection, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is positioning himself as the president's...
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[10-Aug-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just want this headline to be literal now


[10-Aug-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*In today's news, Mitch Mcconnell was seen covering himself in gorilla glue and attempting to glue himself to Donald Trump*


[10-Aug-19 02:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fighting so hard and calling everyone Socialists is only going to guarantee we eventually have an acceptance of socialism


[10-Aug-19 02:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialism means nothing now


[10-Aug-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have made people want socialism jsut out of fucking spite at this point


[10-Aug-19 02:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just "policy I don't like"


[10-Aug-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t like capitalism, therefore capitalism is now socialism


[10-Aug-19 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the republicans are now dirty communists


[10-Aug-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and hippies


[10-Aug-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those dirty republican communist hippies


[10-Aug-19 02:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ironically the early Republican intellectual founding was in early socialism and Marxism. Many of the founding fathers of the GOP were European refugees who fled the Homeland after the 1848 revolutions failed. Key figures in the early party belonged to the Proudhonist school of Socialism/Mutualism and the Free Soiler movement that Marx supports in his Manifesto were a founding party in the GOP. The premier Republican paper also had in its ranks of correspondents Karl Marx and Freiderich Engels.


[10-Aug-19 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
The European left expat community also helped supply the Union army with left radicals like August Wilich who is famous for having challenged Marx to a duel for the crime of "being too conservative". Former revolutionaries from Europe and well like Hungarian left-nationalidt types in exile in America also lead entirely immigrant based militias. Wilich himself commander an almost entirely German unit comprised of vets or the sons of vets of the '48 Revolution.


[10-Aug-19 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
2020, make the Republican Party Marxist again. It'll be fucking lit


[10-Aug-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
GOP: Grand Old Proletariats


[10-Aug-19 03:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1160175856830078976

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https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1160175856830078976
Serial child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide overnight in his Manhattan jail cell awaiting trial, ABC News reports.
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[10-Aug-19 03:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/10/jeffrey-epstein-dead-prison-report-latest

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Jeffrey Epstein kills himself in prison, report says
Wealthy financier accused of sex trafficking has killed himself in prison, according to a report by ABC News
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[10-Aug-19 03:22 PM] ononim#8141
>suicide


[10-Aug-19 03:23 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Aug-19 03:23 PM] ononim#8141
and he was on 24/7 suicide watch too


[10-Aug-19 03:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
Lots of powerful people must be having a very good morning


[10-Aug-19 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Obtain fleight logs


[10-Aug-19 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Have purge list


[10-Aug-19 03:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/09/prince-andrew-court-documents-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein

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Prince Andrew groped young woman's breast at Epstein house, court ...
Prince accused in court documents of touching young woman’s breast at Manhattan mansion of financier now facing sex trafficking charges
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[10-Aug-19 03:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
This man approaches you offering his services for the cleansing

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[10-Aug-19 03:44 PM] ononim#8141
Iron Felix do it again


[10-Aug-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, hopefully all that evidence the courts got can still go soemwhere


[10-Aug-19 04:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/fooly_cooly/status/1160187621416587267

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[10-Aug-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a2a9b6829ac54be1820636cf29cb7ffe Kim needs another PR boost

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Trump: Kim wants to meet again, apologized for missile tests
BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Saturday that North Korea's Kim Jong Un wants to meet once again to "start negotiations" after joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises...
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[10-Aug-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
uh huh


[10-Aug-19 05:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn_PxnJZbaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAsvjVPlMrI

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BREAKING JEFFREY EPSTEIN DEAD BY SUICIDE... While On Suicide Watch???
Support My Work - https://www.timcast.com/donate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k50V-K4G1o Buy stuff from me http://www.teespring.com/stores/timcast Become...
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Jeffrey Epstein "Dead of Suicide" HMMMMMM
Cough cough Clinton: http://archive.is/uIqIp Bill Richardson: http://archive.is/t8hxE Website: https://tarlwarwick.net Merch: https://tarlwarwick.net/collect...
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[10-Aug-19 05:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
everyone doubts the suicide


[10-Aug-19 05:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mitchysuch/status/1160194449688936449

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I made the most accurate political spectrum of the 21st century
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[10-Aug-19 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/1160211932323950592?s=19

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Epstein’s death is proof bipartisanship is still possible in this day and age.
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[10-Aug-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Aug-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Aug-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1160223669374935040?s=20

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MORE: Epstein's death comes less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his Lower Manhattan cell, sources told @ABC. He was placed on suicide watch following the July 23 incident, but was not on suicide watch at the time of his death. https://t.co/6rtNwMrIgJ
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[10-Aug-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
> was not on suicide watch at the time of his death


[10-Aug-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
more plausible


[10-Aug-19 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno... as a rich narcissistic sociopath, he's _already_ lost everything and had the power to make a lot of other people's lives miserable


[10-Aug-19 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's not something a guy like that just passes on over "guilt" or "shame"


[10-Aug-19 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course if he was offed, chances are it was on behalf of some hotel random rich guy from the UAE or something


[10-Aug-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And not someone more interesting


[10-Aug-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because reality is mediocre like that


[10-Aug-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
the big conspiracy isn't child sex rings


[10-Aug-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it's lowering taxes


[10-Aug-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
sorry to burst your bubble folks


[10-Aug-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lowering taxes makes it easier to tilt the scales to where you can bribe away any investigation of your child sex rings, or your deforestation project, etc.


[10-Aug-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people do not deserve respect.


[10-Aug-19 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not when they can pay for it, no =p


[10-Aug-19 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden got harrassed by someone from TPUSA who asked him how many genders there were and he said "Don't play games with me, kid"


[10-Aug-19 07:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/456949-ocasio-cortez-calls-for-answers-after-epstein-found-dead-in-jail-cell

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Ocasio-Cortez demands 'answers' after Epstein found dead in jail cell
New York Rep.
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[10-Aug-19 07:32 PM] Litrojia#0612

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[10-Aug-19 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lol


[10-Aug-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[10-Aug-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not even trying


[10-Aug-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/456962-studio-says-it-will-cancel-release-of-the-hunt-after-backlash

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Studio says it will cancel release of 'The Hunt' after backlash
Universal Pictures says it is canceling the release of "The Hunt" following intense criticism on both sides of the aisle about the upcoming film.
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[10-Aug-19 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
=/


[10-Aug-19 07:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/08/10/twitters_ban_of_mcconnell_shows_techs_censorship_power.html

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Twitter's Ban of McConnell Shows Tech's Censorship Power | RealCle...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s campaign was locked out of its own Twitter account Wednesday for sharing a cellphone video documenting some of the threats made against his life by...
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[10-Aug-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he should post on gab instead


[10-Aug-19 07:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>*The company further clarifies that “statements that express a wish or hope” for harm are “not actionable under this policy.”*


[10-Aug-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Free market and all


[10-Aug-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Whiny Moscow Mitch


[10-Aug-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Your supporters got a cardboard cutout of Ocasio-Cortez and choked/sexually assaulted it


[10-Aug-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And you're whining about people calling you names


[10-Aug-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why elected officials should not have the same level of free speech as everyone else


[10-Aug-19 07:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
I love Twitter

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[10-Aug-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An elected official's words are bullets


[10-Aug-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also The Hunt was designed to make coastal liberal elites look _bad_


[10-Aug-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like hating Wolfenstein for having Nazis in it


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
tbh finally something good out of all of this


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit, they're the bad guys you're not supposed to like


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He isn't just whining, he's taking the floor to whine on record


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
I read the synopsis on the news page and I am already exhausted from the discourse this movie would generate


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The synopsis is just another generic manhunt movie


[10-Aug-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Moscow Mitch gets to him hard


[10-Aug-19 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only calling him that from now on


[10-Aug-19 07:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only difference is someone used the term "deplorable" and the right went nuts


[10-Aug-19 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The critiques I saw was that even though the liberals are presented as the villains


[10-Aug-19 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That this is masturbatory material to people who won't see them as villains


[10-Aug-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If not for that they'd all have a roaring good time watching some redneck girl turn the tables and massacre a bunch of ~liberal elites~


[10-Aug-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which again, is like not releasing  WWII media with the Nazis in it because some people might agree with them


[10-Aug-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Could level the same moronic critique against The Purge shit


[10-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember talking about the Purge before


[10-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Murder would barely happen in an IRL purge


[10-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like, 95% white collar crime


[10-Aug-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And immigration violation


[10-Aug-19 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Setting fire to wallstreet would of course still be a crime


[10-Aug-19 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There'd be all sorts of protected people and institutions


[10-Aug-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And everything would be switched off the internet


[10-Aug-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd just be a spectacle for the poors


[10-Aug-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that is in the movie that the internet is shut off


[10-Aug-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Use the purge to organize an insurrection army while the government is distracted and overthrow them definitely


[10-Aug-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/768bb5352e914874b36c1c970bca347e

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Reshaping of federal courts concerns gun control supporters
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation, including a ban on the type of high-capacity ammunition magazines used in some of the nation's deadliest mass...
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[10-Aug-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://archive.is/mKuKC

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Jeffrey Epstein dead: William Barr 'livid' over apparent suicide
archived 10 Aug 2019 17:51:50 UTC
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[10-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't imagine Barr livid over anything


[10-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or expressing any emotion at all other than absolute boredom


[10-Aug-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr is the human equivalent of a wet sock...


[10-Aug-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also liekly won't actually do anything other than breifly peer into the room where he lost his keys and say "Guys, we tried everything and found nothing"


[10-Aug-19 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/49306816/article-370-tear-gas-at-kashmir-rally-india-denies-happened

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Tear gas at Kashmir rally India denies happened
Thousands of people took to the streets in Srinagar – in a protest the Indian government denies happened.
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[10-Aug-19 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like India is learning from China a bit on ways to report **nothing**


[10-Aug-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/agent-47-finds-manhattan-jail-mission-weirdly-easy/

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Agent 47 Finds Manhattan Jail Mission Weirdly Easy
During his mission to kill and silence noted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein before he could testify, Agent 47 was taken aback by how easy the assassination was.
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[10-Aug-19 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[10-Aug-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easier than Sean Bean


[10-Aug-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just me or does anyone else keep seeing Anthony Bourdain vaguely when they see Epstein


[10-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1565467403130.jpg

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[10-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
shocked, I am


[10-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That he'd use his business address


[10-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a guy who bragged about stealing from his mom's purse as a kid


[10-Aug-19 10:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Success means layoffs.


[10-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I bet there are a lot of people pulling up Epstein and the current AG and getting confused why they're getting results about mono


[10-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/HbUEUuV.jpg

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[10-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Aug-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I saw a post on /r/bestof earlier about some lady in Kentucky who couldn't get medicare coverage for her cancer 'cause it happened when the governor made *employment* a requirement for medicare


[10-Aug-19 11:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
She blamed Moscow Mitch, but as far as I can tell Bevin is the one to blame here https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/cnbq9h/mcconnells_campaign_suspended_from_twitter_for/ew8ymic/

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[10-Aug-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he want to be president or VP someday or something


[10-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I could see Jordan/McConnell 2024


[10-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Gaetz/McConnell


[10-Aug-19 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MuskYutaniCorp/status/1160247266696814592

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[11-Aug-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so I've seen a whole bunch of people saying we should investigate Epstein's death...I'd much sooner we see cases opened on the leads we *do* have from his trial


[11-Aug-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes he was at the center of all of this, but this wasn't some kind of lone-wolf thing. Other people are deeply involved


[11-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
TIL that you can be a judge in Mississippi just by getting your GED and winning an election


[11-Aug-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's already 16 in many states...why would there even be a serious discussion on *that* aspect of it? Unless, of course, it's just to muddy the waters instead of talk about how what Epstein did was brazenly coerce teens into prostitution using his massive ego and wealth and connections.


[11-Aug-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if the Commission on Judicial Conduct wonders why they have to censure so many judges there


[11-Aug-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just a meme


[11-Aug-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, the original tweet was linked here about a month ago https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1155962389776351238

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I stand by the constitutional (not moral) argument I offered in my controversial oped: if a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how could she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex? 1/ ...
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[11-Aug-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
About how libertarians always make it about AoC


[11-Aug-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
age of consent laws in the US are pretty bad, a lot of them are overarching "18+ only" shit that makes it illegal for two consenting minors to have sex with each other


[11-Aug-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
same with child porn laws that're causing minors to be labeled as sex offenders for sending nudes of themselves to other minors


[11-Aug-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
iirc there was even a case of a high school teacher being charged by a CP law because a student sent them an unsolicited nude


[11-Aug-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sex laws in general are terrible in the US


[11-Aug-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indecency should not put you on a sex offender registry unless your intentions were sexual


[11-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least in Montana, public indecency requires intent to arouse or shokk


[11-Aug-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, pretty sure the cops would arrest any and all nudists


[11-Aug-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then charge them with disorderly conduct just to be safe.


[11-Aug-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://local.theonion.com/completely-unfair-that-man-ended-up-on-sex-offender-reg-1823888018

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Completely Unfair That Man Ended Up On Sex Offender Registry Just ...
BARTLETT, TN—Saying he didn’t deserve to be treated like a pervert for the rest of his life because of one stupid mistake, local man Michael Horne told reporters Monday that it was completely unfair he ended up on the state’s sex offender registry just for public urinat...
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[11-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-retweets-epstein-conspiracy-theory-claiming-clinton-connection-n1041146?cid=public-rss_20190810

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Trump retweets Epstein conspiracy theory, claiming Clinton connection
The president retweeted a conspiracy theory on Saturday that suggested a connection between former President Bill Clinton and the death of Jeffrey Epstein.
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[11-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do we allow elected officials the same freedom of speech as regular citizens?


[11-Aug-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because we expect them to act in good faith


[11-Aug-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then, when they don't, other elected officials apparently are reluctant or incapable of doing something about it


[11-Aug-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Publicly you have no opinion but those of your consistuents


[11-Aug-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think that's a healthy attitude to have


[11-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You should care about the opinion of your constituents, but you serve for their benefit, not at their whim


[11-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think trying to gag politicians like this doesn't do anything useful


[11-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
restricting their speech rights just means that it's even easier to prevent real debate


[11-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society isn't messed up because Trump can yell bullshit all day


[11-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
society is messed up because of the things that lead to that bullshit being what people will actually vote for.


[11-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you want to stop fascism? Start with the media.


[11-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In contrast I think most any gag on the media is bad.


[11-Aug-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than like, "don't air names of child victims"


[11-Aug-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The media aren't disallowed from doing that


[11-Aug-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
They just don't do it


[11-Aug-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49304358

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'Poop every other day' to save planet - Bolsonaro
Brazil's president was replying to a journalist's question about agriculture and deforestation.
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[11-Aug-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HAHAHAHAHA


[11-Aug-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOD HAVE MERCY UPON MY FUCKING SOUL


[11-Aug-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:galaxybrain:


[11-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Designated constipation streets


[11-Aug-19 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TribunalReport/status/1160193348256358400

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This 4chan post was posted at 8:44 AM ET 10 minutes before the story broke to the public via @AaronKatersky on twitter at 8:53 AM. Post number: 222520257 on /pol/. Not lending any credence to this story but it was posted before anyone knew Epsten was dead. Decide for yours...
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[11-Aug-19 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
4chan why


[11-Aug-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone in this photo looks like either an alien trying to appear human or the little girls from the shining, and mike pence just looks like he;s trying really hard not to pull out a cross and attempt an exorcism


[11-Aug-19 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Aren't those the moppets from venture bros


[11-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really concerning when Pence is the most human-looking guy in a group


[11-Aug-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the accosta family apparently


[11-Aug-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/15a112045c0947e7b33ba86322538233

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US attorney: Epstein abuse probe steadfast despite his death
NEW YORK (AP) — The FBI and the Justice Department's inspector general's office will investigate how Jeffrey Epstein died in an apparent suicide Saturday, while the probe into sexual abuse...
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[11-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/3IKcIgd

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Makes sense
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[11-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Aug-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He wasn't on suicide watch anymore


[11-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which doesn't mean there wasn't a conspiracy, given he sure as shit should have still been on suicide watch


[11-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
the camera outside his cell "malfunctioned" right at the time he committed "suicide" too


[11-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you have a source on that?


[11-Aug-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently it's just rumors, no information has been released on the camera system's status


[11-Aug-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it's pretty plausible he actually killed himself


[11-Aug-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think there's any sort of conspiracy nut stuff going on


[11-Aug-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Considering he already attempted suicide and more info had just been released, it's mighty suspicious he was no longer on suicide watch


[11-Aug-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again, massive incompetence is par for the course


[11-Aug-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
yes, it's plausible, but the normally conspiracy theory stuff is also plausible for once too


[11-Aug-19 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For a few weeks Epstein was likely the guy on the planet with the highest threat score, as in the most powerful people with the most means wanting him dead the most...


[11-Aug-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Suspicious he wasn't on suicide watch? yeah definitely


[11-Aug-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Targeted killing by the Clinton family in cold blood? Don't think so


[11-Aug-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, any specific person doing it is a conspiracy theory right now


[11-Aug-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's so many possible people who would want him killed that it's impossible to say if any one person did it


[11-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1159961357774536704

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Dear @Walmart, remember how:

Mario Kart caused people to drive faster?

Pac-Man caused folks to eat more?

Fortnite radicalized a white supremacist to shoot Hispanics at your store?

You disrespect the victims of mass shootings by making up stupid shit. Stop blaming video...
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[11-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-lieu-walmart-video-games-mass-shootings-2019-8

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Democratic lawmaker tells Walmart to stop 'making up stupid s---' ...
"Mario Kart caused people to drive faster," Rep. Ted Lieu of California asked Walmart. "Pac-Man caused folks to eat more?"
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[11-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1160264524328558593?s=19

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Mitch McConnell says hentai should be illegal.
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[11-Aug-19 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch mcconnell also says eating babies for immortality should be legal, so should we really be letting him dictate what should and shouldn't be allowed?


[11-Aug-19 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm moderately certain that's a meme account run by hardtimes


[11-Aug-19 06:53 AM] RYDE#8862
If hentai becomes illegal, then video games and movies will be illegal as well. This will result into a frenzy and nobody wants that.


[11-Aug-19 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, check the name


[11-Aug-19 07:30 AM] RYDE#8862
Mitch McConnell said that?


[11-Aug-19 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[11-Aug-19 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a meme account


[11-Aug-19 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Run by a The Onion-like site


[11-Aug-19 07:34 AM] RYDE#8862
Oh...


[11-Aug-19 07:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch mcconnel also never endorsed eatign babies for immortality, atleast not outloud


[11-Aug-19 07:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still believe he holds the baby eating stance though


[11-Aug-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you know why everyone's hating on extra credits now? apparently they released a nazi video or something


[11-Aug-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
lots of comments hating on the extra credits plug in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbQ2WbTp0E

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Pigs used to be Overpowered
Check out the Extra History episode on Pig Colonialization here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WkjHyKHyX4&feature=youtu.be Also if you'd like, I'd be supe...
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[11-Aug-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCj8llyzfWo

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Extra Credits
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Stop Normalizing Nazis - Socially Conscious Game Design - Extra Cr...
Historical and current political context matters in game design. Don't treat Nazis and terrorists like they are just one of several morally equivalent charac...
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[11-Aug-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's this video


[11-Aug-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
check out the like/dislike ratio lmao


[11-Aug-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
okay, first 10 seconds of this video is retarded


[11-Aug-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
that's not how gaming works


[11-Aug-19 09:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I got a minute in


[11-Aug-19 09:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And this is primo retard material


[11-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, seems like extra credits went off the deep end of SJWism


[11-Aug-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah the thing about Extra Credits is one of the main writers on their team is really, really wanting games to adhere to his political ideologies


[11-Aug-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it mostly doesn't show unless they cover very specific topics, and then you can tell he's just up in arms about media not being an agent to erase the bad etc.


[11-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
> more impressed by the camera than anything else. that's a good nigh vision equipment.  Instead of pigs I would like to see a similar animal like ISIS members being shot at night.


[11-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
eugh, I'm watching videos about hog hunting and found one with kill shots, this is the top comment


[11-Aug-19 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
those types of videos seem to attract the crazies with the potential to be future mass shooters


[11-Aug-19 10:03 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
this is your own fault


[11-Aug-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
no u


[11-Aug-19 10:04 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
no u

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[11-Aug-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d32d782f1cc34e9f98df2b05efa5bba8

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What's on school menus this fall? Trade mitigation
NEW YORK (AP) — School lunch menus already have Meatless Mondays and Taco Tuesdays. Now some may get Trade Mitigation Thursdays. This fall, U.S. school cafeterias are expecting shipments of...
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[11-Aug-19 03:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
TIL Reagan laid the foundations for the later Sub-prime Mortgage crisis

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[11-Aug-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bd7d7e67886a46cb8df6b407fc0dcc99

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Russian media agency complains YouTube facilitates protests
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's media oversight agency is demanding that Google take actions to stop its YouTube subsidiary from allowing users to send information about unsanctioned...
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[11-Aug-19 07:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/opinion/russia-nuclear-treaty-inf.html

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By BRET STEPHENS
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/opinion/russia-nuclear-treaty-inf.html
Opinion | The U.S. Needs More Nukes
Russian cheating requires a strong response.
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[11-Aug-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
US has plenty of nukes


[11-Aug-19 07:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Yep


[11-Aug-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
if you want to go this route then just say you want to go to war with russia


[11-Aug-19 07:56 PM] illumnious#7938
I know I'm slow but https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/09/business/walmart-violent-video-games/index.html

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Walmart pulls violent video game displays from its stores, but it ...
Walmart is taking down displays of violent video games in its stores in the wake of recent shootings. But the company plans to still sell the controversial video games -- and guns.
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[11-Aug-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[11-Aug-19 08:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/KashifMD/status/1160561534805979137

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Kashif N Chaudhry (@KashifMD)
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This is Muhammad Rafiq. Know his name. 

Yesterday, when a white supremacist terrorist tried to carry out Christchurch-style massacre in a Norway Mosque, this 75 year old jumped on him, held him in a chokehold & sat on him till police arrived. 

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[11-Aug-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49311482

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Norway mosque shooting probed as terror act
A white Norwegian man is in custody after a shooting at a mosque near Oslo left one person injured.
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[11-Aug-19 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-part-larger-suicide-problem/595918/

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Epstein’s Death Has a Simpler Explanation
Baseless speculation abounded after the accused sex trafficker died, but criminal-justice scholars point instead to a broader suicide problem.
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[11-Aug-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-hoarding-of-the-american-dream?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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The Hoarding of the American Dream - The Atlantic - Pocket
In a new book, a Brookings scholar argues that the upper-middle class has enriched itself and harmed economic mobility.
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[11-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Aug-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
pfft fake news. Everyone knows it was in '58 with Tennis for Two


[11-Aug-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Developed in a government-run research facility on military-grade hardware


[11-Aug-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
look it up if you don't believe me


[11-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oscilloscopes were a mistake


[11-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://i.imgur.com/TGrZrVn.jpg

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[11-Aug-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/were-a-totally-peaceful-racist-group-straight-pride-organizer-tells-modesto-california-city-council-meeting/

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"We're a totally peaceful racist group," Straight Pride organizer ...
Meeting attendees had been booing Don Grundmann – but his gaffe sparked an eruption of laughter
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[11-Aug-19 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
It was fucking funny


[11-Aug-19 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
But also sad


[12-Aug-19 12:12 AM] illumnious#7938

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[12-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx bezos


[12-Aug-19 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wonder if this is part of their drone delivery rollout


[12-Aug-19 01:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Do I get a discount with prime?


[12-Aug-19 01:37 AM] illumnious#7938
No


[12-Aug-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a discount would mean less people per purchase of mass shooting, so unfortunately no


[12-Aug-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you do however get extra ammo with prime


[12-Aug-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/704163/allow-police-military-to-indoctrinate-students-bato/story/?headline

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Law allowing police, military to indoctrinate students needed —Bato
Police and military personnel should be allowed to conduct a form of "indoctrination" among students in state universities and colleges to compete with the supposed brainwashing activities of left-leaning organizations and "communists" in their campuses, Senator Ronald Dela R...
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[12-Aug-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You already can


[12-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just want the government to say your ideas are better


[12-Aug-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the phillipines which i dont knwo if that adds different context


[12-Aug-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
a senator saying that in the US would take a pretty big hit next election, even rural conservatives aren't too fond of indoctrination, even if they'll say they support it if pushed on it


[12-Aug-19 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Free 2-day shipping? Oh boy!


[12-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I bet you can get expedited delivery and the white supremacists get into their mother's van


[12-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and haul ass


[12-Aug-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@byte[] I got carded in the UK for buying a set of allen wrenches


[12-Aug-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
NO ID
NO SALE


[12-Aug-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
NOID NOSALE


[12-Aug-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
NOIDED


[12-Aug-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
YUH


[12-Aug-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(These are not lyrics from a Death Grips song but you thought they were)


[12-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've had a lot of odd shit happen to me over the years


[12-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the experience of me, a 6ft with a 4inch beard, getting asked for ID to buy a set of allen wrenches, is something I will not forget


[12-Aug-19 03:46 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
The one and only time I walked into a liqueur store, I walked into a window instead of the door until someone directed me to the entrance, and I got asked for my ID at the register because I look 16 even tho I was 24


[12-Aug-19 03:46 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
I felt so lost


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also with the Thomas cutlery I imagine like


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>School play


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>suddenly the music changes


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>it's the Rains of Castamere


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>ohno.jpg


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>You hear "CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER" and a commotion in the distance


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>He has a spoon.


[12-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
>He has...a...SPOON


[12-Aug-19 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.alternativelyfacts.com/designer-video-games/amp/

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Call of Duty Designer Apologizes for Inspiring World War II
A man who worked on the design of one of the original “Call of Duty” video game has issued a statement apologizing for his role in “inspiring” World War II. In an open lette…
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[12-Aug-19 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Best part of that article


[12-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the person in the photo doesn't exist


[12-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As in literally does not exist, it's an AI composite


[12-Aug-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess if you're gonna make a satirical piece and associate someone's face with it, your safest bet is someone whose stock photo career won't be ruined afterwards


[12-Aug-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 someone sues them for looking like the composite


[12-Aug-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah I'm pretty sure the whole standard "likenesses are completely coincidental" disclaimer will hold up in that case


[12-Aug-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is so hard to bring a case like that


[12-Aug-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And if you win you'll not get much


[12-Aug-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/kOHABYhZ7a8

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https://youtu.be/kOHABYhZ7a8
Man Attempts To Assassinate Obama, 'But Not Because He's Black Or ...
Suspect Alex Croft, who has a ton of black friends, planned to kill Obama because of his socialist agenda—not because of his skin color.
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[12-Aug-19 11:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-mosque-shooting-attack-latest-gunman-worshipper-man-hero-far-right-terror-a9051986.html?fbclid=IwAR100xVwkprzYlTZRQJHfNEr8t7xt2vQFlymJsGU67RLDwgyT9g5eHxFU3o

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Worshipper, 65, takes down mosque gunman before he can kill anyone
Police investigating shooting as terror attack after uncovering evidence of gunman’s far-right views
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/08/11/12/norway-mosque-attack-hero.jpg


[12-Aug-19 11:23 AM] ononim#8141
Reposti since there's english news article on that now


[12-Aug-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1131c0f97db34e1293862ca7fa8d4f06

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Hong Kong airport shuts down amid pro-democracy protest
HONG KONG (AP) — One of the world's busiest airports canceled all flights after thousands of Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters crowded into the main terminal Monday afternoon. Hong Kong...
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[12-Aug-19 01:07 PM] Litrojia#0612
`One must take resolute action toward this violent criminality, showing no leniency or mercy`


[12-Aug-19 01:07 PM] Litrojia#0612
they ded


[12-Aug-19 01:09 PM] Litrojia#0612
or at least they're warning of it


[12-Aug-19 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ai6p44ovquf31.png

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[12-Aug-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Aug-19 03:25 PM] ononim#8141
Who else but Polska


[12-Aug-19 03:31 PM] byte[]#2610
@Moon Flower


[12-Aug-19 03:33 PM] Moon Flower#6088
what


[12-Aug-19 03:34 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I think that means most dark brown people live in Poland. :ponythinking:


[12-Aug-19 03:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
As someone of Polish descent: cede all of Poland to Russia and Germany again


[12-Aug-19 03:53 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/5-children-killed-in-day-care-center-fire-in-Pennsylvania-535635361.html

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5 children killed in day care center fire in Pennsylvania
An early morning fire in Pennsylvania at a residential building housing a day care center killed five children and sent the owner to the hospital, authorities said.
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[12-Aug-19 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk

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[12-Aug-19 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
(I know it's shitposting but man I feel east euro politics are still sore to me)


[12-Aug-19 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
(also >giving even an inch of land and resources to Kr*uts)


[12-Aug-19 05:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.imgur.com/VQn1tAV.jpg

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[12-Aug-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9bf4541d89e6444783814e53302ce479

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Trump overhauling enforcement of Endangered Species Act
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is finalizing major changes Monday to the way it enforces the landmark Endangered Species Act, a move it says will reduce regulatory burden but critics...
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[12-Aug-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
every time you hear the words "reduce regulatory burden" it means "fuck you in particular"


[12-Aug-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Aug-19 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Aug-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't read this


[12-Aug-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
What does it say


[12-Aug-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the shooter who tried to emulate the christ church attacks and got tackled and restrained by a 76 year old mosque goer, I wish i knew what it said though


[12-Aug-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
tbh I shared mostly for the scumbag beat up face


[12-Aug-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Monumental loser


[12-Aug-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tries to do a mass shooting in a mosque with only three people in it, gets his ass whooped by a guy nearing his 80s


[12-Aug-19 09:06 PM] ononim#8141
70s actually


[12-Aug-19 09:06 PM] ononim#8141
but ye


[12-Aug-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Old man strength


[12-Aug-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/lokinhei/status/1160573802448736256

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LO Kin-hei 羅健熙 (@lokinhei)
https://twitter.com/lokinhei/status/1160573802448736256
#HongKongPolice planting a bamboo stick into an arrestee's bag

#HongKong #HongKongProtests https://t.co/bvdM7fcbrH
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[12-Aug-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AlexandreKrausz/status/1160947525442056193

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Alexandre Krauss (@AlexandreKrausz)
https://twitter.com/AlexandreKrausz/status/1160947525442056193
Disturbing video taken in #Shenzhen just across the boarder with #HongKong. Something extraordinarily bad is about happen. #China #HongKongProtests #Democracy #SaveHongKong 
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[12-Aug-19 09:21 PM] ononim#8141

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[12-Aug-19 09:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Bronies and furrys who are also Nazis are weird. As if they were not going to end up in the camps with Jews, gays, minorities and any other group of people Nazis didn't like.


[12-Aug-19 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/immigrant-children-sexual-abuse.html

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By MATTHEW HAAG
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/immigrant-children-sexual-abuse.html
Thousands of Immigrant Children Said They Were Sexually Abused in ...
There were 4,556 allegations in four years, including a rise in complaints during the Trump administration’s family separation policy.
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[12-Aug-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Epstein had some great ideas on how to keep mexican teens from becoming part of the Democratic machine.


[12-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49319160

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Rocket mystery: What was Russia testing?
A rocket engine blew up in the Arctic, killing five nuclear experts and sparking a radiation scare.
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[13-Aug-19 01:05 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend: #MyBernieStory


[13-Aug-19 01:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
#MyBernieStory : Bernie would not touch me no matter how much I expressed to him how badly I felt the Bern. :sad:


[13-Aug-19 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/08/11/when-we-were-ten/

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When We Were Ten
Leonid Volkov Facebook August 10, 2019 I was ten years old but I remember August 1991 well. And I remember how many people asked, after that unique celebration of unity and freedom, what would have…
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[13-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/HaygoodLaw/status/1160775707980705792

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Lane (@HaygoodLaw)
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This is the future the Left wants.
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[13-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
LGTM


[13-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe replace Clinton with William Shatner


[13-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace the sheep with Twilight Sparkle from the cloning van.


[13-Aug-19 02:00 AM] ononim#8141
I feel like this comic is older than some people here


[13-Aug-19 02:00 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
that doesn't sound too bad :p


[13-Aug-19 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Main issues I see with this are: 3-wheeled vehicle should have the wider axle in front for stability in turns, kid on skateboard smoking too close to public seating area, flag burning should not be used for cooking due to the unknown carcinogens released by the burning dyes in the flags


[13-Aug-19 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
otherwise yeah this looks ok to me


[13-Aug-19 02:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I like this future. They may actually be right about this being the future the left wants.


[13-Aug-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
self aware wolves


[13-Aug-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony what if it ends up like the EU flag? Made out of stuff that at normal pressures doesn't sustain a burn.


[13-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flag burning, but with specialized high pressure incinerators


[13-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is the comic threatening us with a good time


[13-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than the Welsh tourist in the bottom right corner


[13-Aug-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you saying Welsh tourists giving you an "absolute unit show" aren't a good time?


[13-Aug-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw


[13-Aug-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
where I liv we hav An Ri Ra every year, it's like St Patrick's day but people pretend not to be drunk and some musicians and dancers get up on stage


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
this year, we actually got a somewhat big band to play, the Whileaways


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
who are from Ireland


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
apparently they got their travel visa for the show approved 5 hours before their flight


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans at this point don't want musicians.


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They want Kid Rock


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause WHAT IF DEM IRISH COME AND LIV HERE AND MOOCH OFF WELFARE?LL


[13-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republican musicians are just as bad as the liberal elite


[13-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're like Mike Rowe.


[13-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways imagine if like


[13-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kid Rock has been nothing but champagne and private jets for decades


[13-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump had to explain why Ed Sheeran was denied a visa


[13-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, he's from the UK


[13-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
so visa waived


[13-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait but so is Ireland, there must be further complications I'm not aware of.


[13-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Said something mean about Trump


[13-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or did a concert in a bad country~ the last year


[13-Aug-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that we give the same treatment to musicians if they're from the US, too. Anyone remember the Dixie Chicks getting utterly blacklisted after they said something unkind about Bush onstage in Europe?


[13-Aug-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"We're ashamed the president is from Texas," and boom, zero airplay. It ended their careers


[13-Aug-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, now no one will defend Dubya


[13-Aug-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remind most conservatives I meet how their party would fall on every sword for him 15 years ago


[13-Aug-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And ask how Trump will be different a decade from now


[13-Aug-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 15 years, Trump will be a meme, and not an authority figure.


[13-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also either dead or in jail.


[13-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly dead, in jail.


[13-Aug-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, no, that could never happen


[13-Aug-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they'd have him on suicide watch. :twismug:

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[13-Aug-19 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://time.com/5649826/russia-nuclear-accident/

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Russia Says Small Nuclear Reactor Blew Up in Deadly Accident
The blast occurred Aug. 8 during a test of a missile
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[13-Aug-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the new flying nuclear reactors.


[13-Aug-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
technically not wrong


[13-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
nuclear powered flying carrier obviously


[13-Aug-19 06:04 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90VuWzB2ZQM

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Salty Cracker
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No Straight Pride Allowed In Progressive California City
Website: https://saltycrackermerch.com/ PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=59N25LCQW4L4W&source=url Twitter: https:...
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[13-Aug-19 06:04 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So much for TOLERANCE AND INCLUSION


[13-Aug-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Straight pride is every day of the year, dude


[13-Aug-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you not understand why gay pride parades are a thing?


[13-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just gotta get all my white peeps together in white sheets of pride and march thru the ghetto, it's racist if they take an issue with it.


[13-Aug-19 06:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can;t wait for corporate pride day!


[13-Aug-19 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
now see the thing that'd be tricky to make work but might be the solution here is to have a gay pride parade *in honor* of straight people. But the minefield is in making it about celebrating straight acceptance of LGBTQ without giving leverage to the pity-party "well why don't WE get a parade" homophobic groups


[13-Aug-19 06:22 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[13-Aug-19 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe it would be as simple as having a giant 8 foot rainbow dildo float with the most flamboyant kinks up on it and a giant banner reading "WE LOVE STRAIGHT PEOPLE." I dunno.


[13-Aug-19 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sounds like the gay agenda to me


[13-Aug-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or the premise of some sitcom episode


[13-Aug-19 06:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need a float with a giant foot on it, thne the straight republicans will be satisfied


[13-Aug-19 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, maybe with little statues of some famous republican leaders under it, holding it up like greek columns! To show the steps we've taken in the last few years! I do love symbolism!


[13-Aug-19 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1160950892599943168

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really is a motherfucker what happened to monopoly, which was originally an anti-capitalist game, then monetized ruthlessly, and now ends up at this "parody" which is just monetizing our current endless hellscape that it even markets to our desire to end it
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[13-Aug-19 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
habsrooooooo


[13-Aug-19 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It still teaches people how shitty the system is at a very early age


[13-Aug-19 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody said you can't fight capitalism without also profiting from it...


[13-Aug-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck is Hasbro doing


[13-Aug-19 07:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe they're upset that they realized their MCU will never work so now are abandoning capitalism


[13-Aug-19 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their MCU?


[13-Aug-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cinematic Universe.


[13-Aug-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, making movies of every game and show they hav.


[13-Aug-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they crossed any, tho?


[13-Aug-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah a few years back Hasbro was really gung ho into making their own universe with like Transformers/GI Joe/MASK/etc


[13-Aug-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they realized everything but Transformers is super dead


[13-Aug-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So went fuck it, just make more Star Wars stuff


[13-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought the Battleship movie was pretty decent


[13-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really was the MLP Movie not doing as well as they hoped plus Disney clearly turning SW into a yearly thing that made them pull back from "we can do our own franchises"


[13-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Aren't they still making that Monopoly thing?


[13-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit they planned a play doh and Monopoly and Candy Land movie


[13-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably not.


[13-Aug-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They put the brakes on anything original.


[13-Aug-19 07:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.slashfilm.com/monopoly-movie/

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'Monopoly' Movie Will Pass Go With Kevin Hart In the Lead, Tim Sto...
The Monopoly movie will roll the dice with Kevin Hart starring for director Tim Story, but plot details remain under wraps.
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[13-Aug-19 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
From this year


[13-Aug-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just makes more sense to make Frozen and Star Wars stuff than try to make pony kiddie Tolkien or have Transformers/GI Joe crossovers


[13-Aug-19 07:21 AM] Treascair#7785
I think the Battleship movie was good... as long as you didn't take it seriously.  It was a popcorn flick.


[13-Aug-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was also seven years ago


[13-Aug-19 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was?


[13-Aug-19 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_turns to dust and is carried away by the wind_


[13-Aug-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hasbro had really big plans until they realized they no one would consider their franchises as big as Marvel


[13-Aug-19 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hasbro really should have bought Marvel when they could...


[13-Aug-19 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine DC but they only have Batman OR Superman


[13-Aug-19 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They almost bought DreamWorks so


[13-Aug-19 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc they didn't because Disney threatened to pull their licenses over viewing them as competition


[13-Aug-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In hindsight good idea not to, Boulder cost them a lot and DreamWorks would have been more


[13-Aug-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was bluffing, Disney had just left Mattel and there's no other company that could make the volume


[13-Aug-19 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kenner!


[13-Aug-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hasbro are them


[13-Aug-19 07:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh lol


[13-Aug-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's only really three toy companies, Hasbro Mattel and Lego


[13-Aug-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lego is the biggest by miles


[13-Aug-19 07:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bandai


[13-Aug-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean when you combine their changing interests plus TRU closing plus the leaks you get a pretty interesting story of a company of people who had creatives that wanted more but the market said "nah" so everyone went "fuck it, just make Elsa dolls"


[13-Aug-19 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a monopoly movie?


[13-Aug-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Development hell


[13-Aug-19 07:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt that just capitalism development the movie


[13-Aug-19 07:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kids from the bronx go from rags to riches against a number of villainous elites and financiers


[13-Aug-19 07:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I imagine at the end they prove that money isn't all that's important and capitalism is bad actually


[13-Aug-19 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically Hasbro tried to give a fuck at one point but no one was interested, so they stopped trying.


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile Playmobil is just over here doing...something apparently


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being cheap


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the playmobile movie looks kinda fun


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
cheap enough for a movie


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still coming out?


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seriously, you can get massive sets and figs for a few bucks


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought the last Lego Movie flopping scared them away


[13-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A comparable LEGO set would be ten times the price


[13-Aug-19 07:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Playmobile is big in some euro countries


[13-Aug-19 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow they made a sequel to the Angry Birds movie


[13-Aug-19 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[13-Aug-19 07:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It appears to have already been released in some countries and we're just seeing the worldwide release now


[13-Aug-19 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the playmobile movie coems out end of this month


[13-Aug-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the angry birds movie was a hit and people liked it


[13-Aug-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means people will spend money to watch the sequel


[13-Aug-19 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Playmobil Movie reminds me of those weird "eurotrash" animations that seem like money laundering things


[13-Aug-19 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the angry birds movie was actually kind of decent


[13-Aug-19 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so atleast it had competence behindit and wasn't just the emoji movie with only 1 app


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A few of those not-great animated movies are actually fairly decent


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@prism stryder(intexda)  Is that version of Monopoly real?


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Cause I must get it


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Where did you find it?


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.amazon.com/Hasbro-Monopoly-Socialism-Board-Parody/dp/B07VPRNZJB


[13-Aug-19 07:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in that tweet


[13-Aug-19 07:37 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Teaspoon  Live action Monopoly film!? Oh GOD!


[13-Aug-19 07:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i actually kind fo want to see the playmobil movie, it looks fun


[13-Aug-19 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems to be a version of monopoly with different rules


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
How many different versions of Monopoly are there in existence?


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Damn


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
infinite


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Play together to win together, while everyone's secretly trying to stab each other in the back for a big win


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It seems like a game made to parody everything under the sun


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also it looks like the playmobil movie is....decidedly not fun, judging by the reviews


[13-Aug-19 07:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww


[13-Aug-19 07:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I saw a clip of it involving a mermaid character. I'm pretty sure I've seen direct-to-video Barbie movies that stack up better


[13-Aug-19 07:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's disappointing


[13-Aug-19 07:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[13-Aug-19 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This socialist Monopoly seems to be the millennial one combined with the cheaters edition


[13-Aug-19 07:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seriously though, how the fuck does a monopoly movie make sense plot wise, where do you go with that?


[13-Aug-19 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What about socialism would make you open a vegan no tip restaurant


[13-Aug-19 07:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The story of monopoly is basically becoming a railroad tycoon


[13-Aug-19 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone else ever played a full game of Monopoly


[13-Aug-19 07:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have kind of


[13-Aug-19 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No house rules, just a straight up by the book game


[13-Aug-19 07:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have, once, when I was little, because I was forced to


[13-Aug-19 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I did it once with my family years ago, took like...six hours?


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trivial Pursuit is better but at some point you memorize the cards


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We always did it by the book.


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@prism stryder(intexda) It's gonna be a few spunky kids from a bad neighbourhood that fight against evil rich folk to get to the top, then 2/3rds of the way there start fighting eachother, then finally realize capitalism is evil


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think I've ever seen a Monopoly game actually end.


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know I've lost once.


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think all of these meme versions of Monopoly fix it


[13-Aug-19 07:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most monopoly games end with everyone losing interest


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No most end with an argument.


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They end with people realizing they can't win so they quit


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or arguements


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only reason that game ended is because someone decided to intentionally lose and that tipped the tide in favor of the one person who HAD to see it through, yeah


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's how the game is meant to be played


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apples to Apples with super literal people


[13-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the guy who gets the Anne Frank card and thinks he's clever


[13-Aug-19 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't win by eliminating other players, you win by feeding off them while they're unable to ever get out of their position


[13-Aug-19 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apples to Apples with people who ask who put each card


[13-Aug-19 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
eurgh


[13-Aug-19 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why Trivial Pursuit is best, though in the newest editions Hasbro is super self congratulatory


[13-Aug-19 07:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter who is on he box, the game still sucks


[13-Aug-19 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And has lots of Transformers/MLP in it


[13-Aug-19 07:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is the point


[13-Aug-19 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also tons and tons of pop culture which is IIRC one category in the classic game


[13-Aug-19 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always sucked at Trivial Pursuit


[13-Aug-19 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would know obscure presidential trivia or the name of the Roman goddess of the hunt anymore


[13-Aug-19 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ask about Seinfeld


[13-Aug-19 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would ask about sport championship winners or which band played what song


[13-Aug-19 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And, uh... fuck off?


[13-Aug-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
David Beckham. Yes, that's my answer for who won the shark-wrangling contest.


[13-Aug-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hope he died doing it.


[13-Aug-19 07:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why should anyone know who won the 1994 world cup


[13-Aug-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because sports fans will get angry at you for saying they shouldn't.


[13-Aug-19 07:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the ball went


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sports fans are crazy.


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boy did that ball go


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is that everyone knows something from the categories


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In ancient times they'd be the guys roaming the villages


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
looking for people to recruit into the army to fight for the local king


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like going to a trivia night and having a team except you're alone


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
or execute disloyal people


[13-Aug-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead, some ball game is what they identify around and cheer for


[13-Aug-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
relatedly, Rome having sports was a big deal, and if you adjust for cost of living, the highest paid athlete in history was a Roman guy


[13-Aug-19 07:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, sports injuries back then were pretty serious


[13-Aug-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well sure, falling off chariots hurts.


[13-Aug-19 07:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think it's the trampling more than the falling


[13-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah if you fall off in front of the other guy's chariot, RIP


[13-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Greatest empire mankind ever saw, huge advancements


[13-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never moved past blood sports


[13-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They kept people happy


[13-Aug-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, at one point they reenacted a fukking naval battle in the collosseum


[13-Aug-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
with actual ships


[13-Aug-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's sure how they did that one exactly.


[13-Aug-19 07:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lots of slaves


[13-Aug-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean it's still leaking? MORE SLAVES.


[13-Aug-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
INVENT ELMER'S GLUE AND USE THEIR BONES


[13-Aug-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also considering they *more than* decimated France's native population in a decade, not terribly surprising they'd want some violence at home too, Its.


[13-Aug-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Roman parade ended with the captives, ideally including a foreign king, being strangled to death.


[13-Aug-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In front of a temple, with the guy leading the parade dressed up like a god


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romans then would complain about all the human sacrifice going on among barbarian tribes.


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean their founding myth involved fraticide


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Remus won


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it'd be the same deal either way.


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ancient Reme


[13-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remians


[13-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you mean Remus


[13-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[13-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[13-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be ancient Rem I think


[13-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which sounds fairly retarded.


[13-Aug-19 08:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://earthjustice.org/news/press/2019/trump-s-epa-puts-bee-killing-pesticide-back-on-the-market

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https://earthjustice.org/news/press/2019/trump-s-epa-puts-bee-killing-pesticide-back-on-the-market
Trump’s EPA Puts Bee-killing Pesticide Back On The Market
Today, Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency is allowing sulfoxaflor, a bee-killing pesticide, back on the market.
https://earthjustice.org/sites/default/files/bee-baby_cjb-800.jpg


[13-Aug-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta make sure those colonies collapse.


[13-Aug-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Damn striped immigrants.


[13-Aug-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, I played a few full games of monopoly when I was a kid, I always won though, so no one wanted to play it with me lol


[13-Aug-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VPwiypf.png

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https://imgur.com/VPwiypf
And a hero emerged when one was needed the most
https://i.imgur.com/VPwiypf.png

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[13-Aug-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Ah yes. A truly superior aryan being. Look at him. What a man.


[13-Aug-19 11:21 AM] Dogman15#6007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7WFZoMRSg

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StevenCrowder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7WFZoMRSg
EPSTEIN DEAD: 5 Hard Facts You NEED to Know! | Louder with Crowder
Steven Crowder goes through the absolutely insane -- and REAL -- facts surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's case and "suicide." Want to watch the full show every da...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qr7WFZoMRSg/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Aug-19 11:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this the same Steven Crowder that's famously aggressively homophobic and birthed a meme mocking his idiocy?


[13-Aug-19 11:45 AM] Dogman15#6007
It's the same Steven Crowder who once voiced The Brain (Alan) on *Arthur* when he was younger.


[13-Aug-19 11:47 AM] Dogman15#6007
And that characterization is irrelevant to this video and the topic it discusses, the topic relevant in the news cycle right now. He clearly delineates between the facts and his own opinion in this video.

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[13-Aug-19 11:47 AM] Dogman15#6007
Good night.


[13-Aug-19 11:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah... I'd rather read his sources than have it filtered through the likes of him...


[13-Aug-19 12:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Steven Crowder


[13-Aug-19 12:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, that's going in the trash.


[13-Aug-19 01:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If I had been in control of YT I'd've banned all "presentation" style videos


[13-Aug-19 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. talking heads regurgitating news and shit with a massive slathering of bias and opinionated rants


[13-Aug-19 01:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just don't understand why people watch 15 minutes of someone angrily talking about something when the source information is a 30 second read at best


[13-Aug-19 01:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I get the whole affirmation / bias confirmation part of it, that's basic


[13-Aug-19 01:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's such a waste of time


[13-Aug-19 01:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can just go to breitbart or whatever instead


[13-Aug-19 01:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/mZzXiwZ2PNY

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Zero Books
https://youtu.be/mZzXiwZ2PNY
Storm Area 51: The Rise of the Intergalactic Left
Mike Watson talks about the Storm Area 51 meme and mass cultural movements in light of the thought of Fredric Jameson and Theodor Adorno. This video is one o...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mZzXiwZ2PNY/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Aug-19 03:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Not sure if this is serious or comedy. 
https://youtu.be/o0I2_zro9-4

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NewsX
https://youtu.be/o0I2_zro9-4
Since BBC calls Kashmir Indian occupied Kashmir, let's redraw the ...
Since BBC calls kashmir Indian occupied kashmir, let's redraw the world map and expose the hypocrisy. #UK #NewsX #BritishOccupiedIreland Subscribe to our Cha...
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[13-Aug-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5b1dd62557dc4e52bce91d3693c2389c

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https://apnews.com/5b1dd62557dc4e52bce91d3693c2389c
Portland, Oregon, braces for far-right rally, counterprotest
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Portland police are mobilizing to prevent clashes between out-of-state far-right groups planning a rally here and the homegrown anti-fascists who oppose them as America's...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/f6dd22d137ea45f3ac19a796923b48f0/2592.jpeg


[13-Aug-19 05:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Far right rally.
Police: ***Sleep***
Anti-far right rally
Police: get the water cannons.


[13-Aug-19 05:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8K8KuDbVw

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Renegade Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8K8KuDbVw
The Cool Pope Is Not Cool | Renegade Cut
Pope Francis uses inclusive language while maintaining the standard operating procedure of social conservatism common in the Catholic Church. Support Renegad...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6d8K8KuDbVw/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Aug-19 05:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/sudan-revolution-freedom-change-bashir-sudanese-professionals-association

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https://jacobinmag.com/2019/08/sudan-revolution-freedom-change-bashir-sudanese-professionals-association
“We Want to Take Sudan From This Dark Corner to a Bright Future.”
In only a few months, the Sudanese revolution ended Omar al-Bashir’s authoritarian rule and won an unprecedented transition to a civilian government. We spoke to one of the revolution’s many women leaders about the mass civil disobedience that defeated the regime.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/13103756/GettyImages-1147425444.jpg


[13-Aug-19 06:32 PM] Dogman15#6007
https://www.dailywire.com/news/50517/jeffrey-epstein-dies-totally-non-clinton-related-andrew-klavan (satire)

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/50517/jeffrey-epstein-dies-totally-non-clinton-related-andrew-klavan
Jeffrey Epstein Dies In Totally Non-Clinton Related Absolute Suici...
The following is satirical.
https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph/public/uploads/2019/07/jeffrey_epstein_gi_0.jpg?itok=Y95BhsT4


[13-Aug-19 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/davidianrobin/status/1160932848121143296?s=21

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David Ian Robin 🌹 (@DavidIanRobin)
https://twitter.com/davidianrobin/status/1160932848121143296?s=21
When I graduated in 2011, I owed $137,000 in student loans. 

Today I have $175,000 even as I continue making monthly payments. I will never own a home, start a family, or live debt-free. 

@BernieSanders is the only person running who will cancel ALL student debt. #MyBern...
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Twitter


[13-Aug-19 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good Celestia, the replies to this post deriding the OP for being incompetent or irresponsible make my blood **boil**.


[13-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html
Inside Kashmir, Cut Off From the World: ‘A Living Hell’ of Ang...
A firsthand look inside Kashmir, the contested region the Indian government has all but cut off from the outside world, found a population that is feeling besieged and furious.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/10/world/10kashmir-new-1/10kashmir-new-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Aug-19 08:22 PM] ononim#8141
I feel like there should be a lot of anger here in response, but I feel so emptied about it alfter more than a weak as the news about it surfaced. Myself linking aarticles and citations about it multyple times on various servers, but it all will be to naught


[13-Aug-19 08:22 PM] ononim#8141
Only rising averness in a few insular online communities


[13-Aug-19 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
Internal opposition destroyed or hindered, and ther est of the world will go by, as colonialism and ethnic cleansing will be inacted, with only Pakistan really reacting to it and only mostly for its governments selfish gains


[13-Aug-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1160921698142760961

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Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic)
https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1160921698142760961
@DownTwist @Jamie_Foxworthy @M_feeney @daphnehk @ENBrown @PatHedgerCEI @ismurray @normative @Will_Duffield If you think comparing me to Hitler works, you must be new to the internet.
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[13-Aug-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone invokes Godwin's law on Godwin


[13-Aug-19 08:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-worshippers-clash-israeli-police-jerusalem-holy-site-n1041161

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/muslim-worshippers-clash-israeli-police-jerusalem-holy-site-n1041161
Muslim worshippers clash with Israeli police at Jerusalem holy site
Muslims refer to the site as the Noble Sanctuary and Jews refer to it as the Temple Mount.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_32/2967356/afp_1jg9lb_340079f3cf8d0bf4963922828aaafdf8.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[13-Aug-19 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49323324

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49323324
Trump official revises Statue of Liberty poem
He alters the passage: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free".
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[13-Aug-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that red states get the most government money funnelled into them


[13-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/13/europe/russian-village-evacuation-missile-explosion-intl/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/13/europe/russian-village-evacuation-missile-explosion-intl/index.html
Russian village near site of missile accident to be evacuated, rep...
Residents of a Russian village near the site of a suspected explosion of a nuclear-powered missile have been told to evacuate, Russian state news agency RIA-Novosti reported, citing a local official.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150325082132-social-gfx-breaking-news-super-tease.jpg


[13-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
'military officials told residents the evacuation of Nyonoksa was not connected to Thursday's explosion'


[13-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Season 2 of Chernobyl is looking great


[13-Aug-19 09:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nothing happened. The generous Russian government is just giving some of its loyal citizens a free holiday.


[13-Aug-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing happened, and if it did it's nothing major, and if it's major it's america's fault


[13-Aug-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3279b9775bfd4d5d84d86e23dcc2950e

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https://apnews.com/3279b9775bfd4d5d84d86e23dcc2950e
Russian military orders village evacuation, then cancels it
MOSCOW (AP) — The Russian military on Tuesday told residents of a village near a navy testing range to evacuate, but cancelled the order hours later, adding to the uncertainty and confusion fueled...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/d072a7e150a34f0683878e82a3c1b3cd/3000.jpeg


[13-Aug-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and tnhen they canceled the evacuation


[13-Aug-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20190807-the-women-who-tasted-hitlers-food

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https://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20190807-the-women-who-tasted-hitlers-food
The women who tasted Hitler’s food
Unknown until 2013, a team of around 15 women were employed to taste the Führer’s food to check if it was poisoned. A new play at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival tells their story.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/live/624_351/images/live/p0/7j/yz/p07jyzzp.jpg


[13-Aug-19 11:49 PM] Sober Tractor#6845
(about the beepocalypse)


[13-Aug-19 11:49 PM] Sober Tractor#6845
It's not real}


[13-Aug-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What isn't real


[13-Aug-19 11:52 PM] Sober Tractor#6845
beepocalypse


[13-Aug-19 11:52 PM] Sober Tractor#6845
People complain that insecticides kill bees


[13-Aug-19 11:53 PM] Sober Tractor#6845
(there is a post up there)


[13-Aug-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, insecticides sort of by definition kill insects, which bees are...


[14-Aug-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Bees are an entire classification of insect species. ergo pesticides which are designed to kill insects kill bees


[14-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Sober Tractor#6845
Exactly


[14-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Sober Tractor#6845
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/08/13/acute-exposure-to-controversial-insecticide-sulfoxaflor-doesnt-impact-bee-learning-study-shows/?fbclid=IwAR3ETsk7jFo4afBbMp7M3mjoUkn7YzW7tWKOSf34CTN4ZzIL9A3aq8u_zJ0

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Acute exposure to controversial insecticide sulfoxaflor doesn't im...
Systemic insecticides such as neonicotinoids and sulfoximines can be present in the nectar and pollen of treated crops, through which foraging bees can
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/bee-canola-banner.jpg


[14-Aug-19 12:43 AM] Sober Tractor#6845
Anyways, this thing still has proved to have no impact on bees (sorry had nothing to do with an insecticide).


[14-Aug-19 12:43 AM] Sober Tractor#6845
But this is the so called "bee killer" that is been allowed by the EPA


[14-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon "land of the free*"


[14-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*: well-being sold separately


[14-Aug-19 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
these dues literally want to put a ridiculous asterisk on the quote like a standard leftist American joke


[14-Aug-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
@Dogman15, daily wire is not a satire news site


[14-Aug-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Wire

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Wire
The Daily Wire
The Daily Wire is an American conservative news and opinion website founded in 2015 by political commentator Ben Shapiro. He currently serves as the site's editor-in-chief.


[14-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marketed as a bee-friendly alternative to neonicotinoids by Dow


[14-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0430-6

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0430-6
Sulfoxaflor exposure reduces bumblebee reproductive success
Chronic exposure to sulfoxaflor (a sulfoximine-based insecticide) has severe sub-lethal effects on bumblebee (Bombus terrestris) colonies; exposed colonies produced fewer workers and fewer reproductive offspring than unexposed control colonies.
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-018-0430-6/MediaObjects/41586_2018_430_Fig1_HTML.png


[14-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/08/27/sulfoxaflor-the-bee-friendly-neonicotinoid-replacement-that-could-hurt-bumble-bees/

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https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/08/27/sulfoxaflor-the-bee-friendly-neonicotinoid-replacement-that-could-hurt-bumble-bees/
Sulfoxaflor: The 'bee-friendly' neonicotinoid replacement that cou...
With overwhelming evidence on the risks that neonicotinoids .... pose to bees, phytopharmaceutical companies look towards innovation to replace already
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/hunts-bumblebee_blogheader_Tom-Koerner_USFWS.fw_-1024x512-e1519833462105.png


[14-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, acute exposure doesn't impact learning, sure


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just fukks them up in other ways


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and chronic exposure fukks them up more


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling this a bee-friendly pesticide's bullshit.


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bee-killing pesticide specifically warned not to be used in areas with pollinators.


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just not quite as extreme at killing them as neonicotinoids are.


[14-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHICH THE US ALSO WANTED TO KEEP USING


[14-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be completely banned.


[14-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's an idea: While the bees are just barely trying to recover from a massive collapse


[14-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
DON'T SPRAY MORE POISONS WHERE THEY LIV


[14-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And don't buy into Dow Chemical Company's marketing nonsense.


[14-Aug-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just don;t buy into any chemical company's marketing nonsense


[14-Aug-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of them just claimed their cleaner is safe to drink


[14-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Technically PepsiCo is a chemical company


[14-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which makes your recommendation even more valid


[14-Aug-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it monsanto that claimed that the cleaner was safe to drink?


[14-Aug-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

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Panteras Panteralandia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM
Lobbyist Claims Monsanto's Roundup Is Safe To Drink, Freaks Out Wh...
Update: Monsanto Knew Glyphosate Cancer Link 35 Years Ago: https://youtu.be/ghtLClv1nbM SM Gibson March 26, 2015 (ANTIMEDIA) French television station Canal+...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ovKw6YjqSfM/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Aug-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Drink your weed killer, kids! monsanto says it;s good for you!


[14-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Dogman15#6007
@Crow You are correct that The Daily Wire on the whole is not a satire site, but this one particular article I shared is.


[14-Aug-19 02:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
TSM 2.0 coming soon. 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-latest-airport-china-military-response-a9055591.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-latest-airport-china-military-response-a9055591.html
Huge Chinese military build-up filmed on Hong Kong border amid air...
Protesters shut down Hong Kong’s main airport again on Tuesday, forcing all remaining flights to be cancelled for second day
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/08/13/12/china-buildup.jpg


[14-Aug-19 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait for ||Hong Kong|| to have never really existed and it was really just southern Shenzhen all along


[14-Aug-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
southern shenzen? that never existed it was just a giant ocean crater this whole time


[14-Aug-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean the bay of mistakes.


[14-Aug-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legend has it that the British tried to oppose glorious China there and the Chinese cannons created a crater.


[14-Aug-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We'd start WWIII over the Paracels but here we are, not even caring when we have the PRC preparing to invade HK


[14-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china? you mean ocean russia!


[14-Aug-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
legend has it that putin once stood upon the shores of a great land next to russia, until it broguht shame to his glory and he tore it ascunder with his bear hands!


[14-Aug-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Aug-19 03:05 AM] ononim#8141
Only delusional people or those who are only fed Rus gov state propaganda think what Russia is more powerful or influential than China tbh


[14-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah china would probably kick russias ass in sheer numbers alone


[14-Aug-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the chinese population is dense as fuck and the military is far mroe vicious


[14-Aug-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mentiont he economic strangle hold china has


[14-Aug-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china also already has the monstrous government reputation down whose willing to kill their own people to maintain their "godly" empire while also beign the main manufacturer for most of the western hemisphere and parts of europe. They can afford to have political spats.


[14-Aug-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whether they want it or not


[14-Aug-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Russia sort of has that but to a degree where they still need to maintain trade relations or get stranded ont he world stage regardless of how many nukes they threaten people with


[14-Aug-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why Trump was a god send for them


[14-Aug-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump takes some of the shade off russia and puts it on america


[14-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1161268795278790658


[14-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You gotta love it when people make the federal governments job easy


[14-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically the labor law equivalent of saying "I haven't paid taxes in ten years"


[14-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia is more influential, but less powerful.


[14-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire strategy is to hav the best diplomacy possible, even if everything else is shit.


[14-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
China meanwhile will win out in the end cause it just has more money.


[14-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel the AFL-CIO was shitposting at this guy.


[14-Aug-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that guy is gonna have a hell of a time in court


[14-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If he takes it that far sure


[14-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably will just settle it


[14-Aug-19 03:35 AM] ononim#8141
https://mobile.twitter.com/theneedledrop/status/1161287467573665794


[14-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1161410013321158658


[14-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy shit this guy is dumb


[14-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Smells like lawsuit.


[14-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NLRB charge.


[14-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, Walmart would probably hire him in a heartbeat.


[14-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd just make sure to drill into him to not make statements that'd get them in legal hot water.


[14-Aug-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you can commit white collar crimes, walmart is hiring!


[14-Aug-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even the Trump NLRB would find a violation here.


[14-Aug-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite what Jr. says.


[14-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You cannot threaten termination of people for trying to unionize


[14-Aug-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thousands of people have likely screenshotted his tweets as well and thrownt hme all over the place, so evne if he deletes the tweets the evidence is everywhere now


[14-Aug-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao at the handful of people cheering him on


[14-Aug-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
YEAH! FUCK US OVER WOO!


[14-Aug-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>some dude saying he'd work for him for free


[14-Aug-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can already see the pieces of the boot coming out from his ass


[14-Aug-19 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
slave me, daddy stool man


[14-Aug-19 04:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Have you seen the news that one of our journalists is caught and prisoned by the Hong Kong strikers?


[14-Aug-19 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[14-Aug-19 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but given the whole thing i;m surprised more countries arent caugght up in it


[14-Aug-19 04:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 04:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This guy


[14-Aug-19 04:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
He's rescued now, with a broken head


[14-Aug-19 04:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:(


[14-Aug-19 04:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hope you guys end up ok


[14-Aug-19 04:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So far it only effected Hong Kong and the internet.


[14-Aug-19 04:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of the paraders are hired by their leaders


[14-Aug-19 04:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They give you a flag and a face mask, they will give you 1000 yuan per day.


[14-Aug-19 04:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Unless you're caught by the policemen.


[14-Aug-19 04:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
A number of of teens in HK, even in Guangdong, have earned a lot from this


[14-Aug-19 04:32 AM] Treascair#7785
Do you have proof of this?


[14-Aug-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/098/090/747.jpg

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[14-Aug-19 04:37 AM] Treascair#7785
more this is the first I'm hearing of this, and I'd like some evidence to back up the claim that the protesters are being paid.  It's very akin to over here in the states whenever there's a major march and the extreme right wing starts screeching about how every single protester, to a person, is paid off by the opposition party in general, and George Soros in particular, and how everyone marching is a traitor to the country, and on and on and on...


[14-Aug-19 04:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Paid by whom?


[14-Aug-19 04:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Not every protesters are paid


[14-Aug-19 04:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Some entrepreneurs. Now they are in Taiwan and America.


[14-Aug-19 04:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just an amount of protesters are paid, while the others are just jerk.


[14-Aug-19 04:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now our CPC has cut off most of their source of fund... in a "capitalism" way...


[14-Aug-19 04:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And paid a lot of money to Google to put up our propaganda as the ads in the Hong Kong area of YouTube... And fucking succeeded.


[14-Aug-19 04:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk if this works... At the time when I saw our socailsm propagandas on Pornhub, it scared my dick off.


[14-Aug-19 05:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 05:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The 100% good rate one is our propaganda to this Hong Kong's strike! Holy fuckkkkk


[14-Aug-19 05:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 05:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The 50cents internet armies? I am sure most of those people don't actually believe what they are posting and are just looking for easy money. They are usually students so I would hope that they don't actually believe it.


[14-Aug-19 08:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 08:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 08:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Good thing, the airport of Hong Kong back to the normal now.


[14-Aug-19 09:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
According to Hong Konger's tweets I've seen, Hong Kong will back to the normal soon.


[14-Aug-19 09:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By "normal" I mean has independent parades everyday but at least no one get hurt like that...


[14-Aug-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
china is building up a huge force of military "police" near hong kong


[14-Aug-19 09:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
...


[14-Aug-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
gonna end up being 1989 tiananmen square all over again


[14-Aug-19 09:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You think China will send military there?


[14-Aug-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-latest-airport-china-military-response-a9055591.html

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Huge Chinese military build-up filmed on Hong Kong border amid air...
Protesters shut down Hong Kong’s main airport again on Tuesday, forcing all remaining flights to be cancelled for second day
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/08/13/12/china-buildup.jpg


[14-Aug-19 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
> Large numbers of Chinese paramilitary forces have been filmed assembling just 30km (18.6 miles) from Hong Kong in the city of Shenzhen, as riot police clashed with protesters occupying the airport for a second day.


[14-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/13/hong-kong-protests-china-media-says-military-assembles-nearby.html

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China media says Hong Kong protesters are 'asking for self-destruc...
Chinese propaganda outlets warned on Tuesday that protesters in Hong Kong are "asking for self-destruction," as they released a video showing military vehicles amassing near the border of the city.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106076185-1565699289009gettyimages-1161450024.jpeg?v=1565699310


[14-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
> Chinese propaganda outlets warned on Tuesday that protesters in Hong Kong are “asking for self-destruction,” as they released a video showing military vehicles amassing near the border of the city.


[14-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK should've incorporated Hong Kong into itself.


[14-Aug-19 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok I found the news


[14-Aug-19 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://b23.tv/av63658975

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香港中联办：暴行已经与恐怖分子的暴行无异！_...
http://i1.hdslb.com/bfs/archive/d503ec9312e6bfee0ede6aece324b76171c5bf85.jpg


[14-Aug-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Throwing the problem 50 years into the future under the assumption China wouldn't just annex it was stupid.


[14-Aug-19 09:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
China won't use military force unless another country get into it and fight against China.


[14-Aug-19 09:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You think we care about Hong Kong so much? If possible, we're really glad to get rid of this shit.


[14-Aug-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's going to stop them.


[14-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'll be tanks in Hong Kong in a week if this keeps up.


[14-Aug-19 09:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just seeing Hong Konger's fuck up their economy theirselves and never has power to fight back.


[14-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, it'll *look* bad, but China will just suppress knowledge of it.


[14-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'll be some BS about how Hong Kong asked for the tanks etc.


[14-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the maps get redrawn.


[14-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
UN will briefly make a fuss about it and get vetoed because China has veto power.


[14-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then business as usual, but with Hong Kong's thriving economy a bit messed up now that it no longer has some of the nice privileges associated with being semi-independent, and relatedly it being harder for international stuff to get access to that area of the world.


[14-Aug-19 09:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No need to say more... Just turn on the tv and have some popcorn


[14-Aug-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, at this point there's nothing anyone can do but watch.


[14-Aug-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has been coming for a while, no country did anything, Hong Kong is gonna be part of China before the year is out.


[14-Aug-19 09:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I bet China won't use tanks.  50 dollars.


[14-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tanks are important for intimidation factor and imperviousness to just about anything a rioter would hav on them. Don't waste your money on any actual bets..


[14-Aug-19 11:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 11:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their Cantonese is simply foreign language for me


[14-Aug-19 11:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can only recognise some bad words.


[14-Aug-19 11:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 12:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ps5PzRN

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Hong Kong, today
https://i.imgur.com/6VoqBOih.jpg


[14-Aug-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
there's an image of her immediately after her eye was shot out in the comments (can't link it in discord because gore)


[14-Aug-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was not great, no


[14-Aug-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also not sure pepe is the best imagery to be using...


[14-Aug-19 01:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Eyes got shot..  like this?


[14-Aug-19 01:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, this is China's news about it.


[14-Aug-19 01:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://b23.tv/av63479215

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真的是和平抗议吗_哔哩哔哩 (゜-゜)つロ 干杯~-bilibili
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[14-Aug-19 01:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This is the English version


[14-Aug-19 01:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong learned cops and peeps having fight from the UK, Taiwan learned lick America's ass from Japan, Only Macau learned nothing but make the most delicious grape tarts from Spain.


[14-Aug-19 01:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's why all of us like Macau.


[14-Aug-19 01:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 01:44 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We people are just doing nothing but watching and making fucking memes...


[14-Aug-19 01:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Politicians don't care about their constituents and elections are rigged


[14-Aug-19 01:45 PM] byte[]#2610
What else are we supposed to do


[14-Aug-19 01:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49345052

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India detains Kashmir politician at airport
A day before his arrest, he told the BBC that PM Modi had "murdered the constitution in broad daylight".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/49FD/production/_105114981_shahfaesal.jpg


[14-Aug-19 01:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just in case nothing happens in HK, Nothing will happen in Kashmir to compensate


[14-Aug-19 01:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
All the politicians in kashmir are under house arrest or have been taken to jail. not allowed to leave. rest of india is out celebrating what is happening. sweets for everyone and parades in the streets.


[14-Aug-19 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, the planet really can't go on without some thinly veiled genocide going on, can it


[14-Aug-19 01:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What happened in India?


[14-Aug-19 02:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
India rescinded the special status Kashmir had


[14-Aug-19 02:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
PJB party promised to make India a hindu national country and to take over the disputed territories and make them recognised as a part of India taking away their independent law making. The people of india voted for this by a huge majority. These areas are mostly muslim and not hindu. PJB is trying to make things very hard for muslims by making laws that mainly impact them. Musilim milk and beef farms have not been able to make any money because of cow laws for example.


[14-Aug-19 02:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shut down communications in the region (no internet, phone, no news of any kind allowed to get out) and established martial law


[14-Aug-19 02:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kashmir is a muslim area and is contested between Pakistan and China as well


[14-Aug-19 02:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[]
> what else are we supposed to do
That's point of how "history repeating itself" statement is useless, unless you have to run somewhere as action plan.


[14-Aug-19 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ pretty much


[14-Aug-19 02:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The short of it is the hindu majority of India hate muslims _a lot_ and they want to fully annex Kashmir and subdue the population


[14-Aug-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
india is going to start a war with pakistan


[14-Aug-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
kashmir being primarily muslim (pakistan is also muslim) will drive pakistan to defend them


[14-Aug-19 02:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
☢


[14-Aug-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They aren't gonna nuke eachother


[14-Aug-19 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
given how insane india's new PM is, india might throw the first one


[14-Aug-19 02:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know Kashmir is a white inland area with a curved dotted line.


[14-Aug-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine India will try to make things as miserable as possible in Kashmir, enough to incite violence


[14-Aug-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then use that violence as an excuse to flood the area with military and invade the Pakistan-claimed parts of Kashmir


[14-Aug-19 02:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pull a Putin and claim they're needed there to keep the peace


[14-Aug-19 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
so many wars (especially in europe) have been started throughout history because of one state oppressing a small area of their nation that's dominated by an ethnicity/religion/etc that's shared by a neighboring state


[14-Aug-19 02:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
India is poking the bear to prove the bear is violent and needs to be caged.


[14-Aug-19 02:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/gpnavonod/status/1161189038134562816

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peter donovan  #MAGA (@gpnavonod)
https://twitter.com/gpnavonod/status/1161189038134562816
@SteveK1016 @J0anChelsea @BarbaraMatheney @GSBn10UC @DavidIanRobin @BernieSanders Go in the Army Chelsea..They will help you pay. Your time ...for your education. But lots of kids today expect a free ride .
Twitter


[14-Aug-19 02:11 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[14-Aug-19 02:12 PM] Crow#5457
is this a russian troll


[14-Aug-19 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because of the grammar? It's no worse than the President's...


[14-Aug-19 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a weird beleif held by some very extreme people that you should have to join the military if you want any benefits, and expecting anything or wantign a better life without joining the military is wantign a "free ride"


[14-Aug-19 02:13 PM] Crow#5457
like 90% of people who join the US military have personal stories which make joining sound like an incredibly bad idea


[14-Aug-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont remember my elders having to join the fuckin military to gain benefits, the same shouldn;t be expected of younger generations


[14-Aug-19 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My cousin spent half a decade in Iraq because the army would operate on a heart condition, when he came back


[14-Aug-19 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Said heart condition would have killed him in his 40s


[14-Aug-19 02:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And he'd never make enough money to pay for the operation


[14-Aug-19 02:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And since it's a pre-existing condition, fucked over by insurance


[14-Aug-19 02:15 PM] Crow#5457
also, this person is supposedly a mom with multiple homeschooled kids and a 13 year old who's supposedly taking college courses, but all of their photos are of cringy right-wing memes


[14-Aug-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB0LwdMWwAAFEXk.jpg:large

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[14-Aug-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
like this


[14-Aug-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
basically equating not wanting to join the military that treats you like shit to hating the country and wanting it to die


[14-Aug-19 02:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tweets 143K


[14-Aug-19 02:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, that's paid


[14-Aug-19 02:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Social media was a mistake


[14-Aug-19 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBzH3ZEWkAIJTx6.jpg

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBzH3ZEWkAIJTx6.jpg


[14-Aug-19 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
"white genocide" etc


[14-Aug-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the great replacement!


[14-Aug-19 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-49347717

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ASAP Rocky found guilty of assault
US rapper ASAP Rocky is found guilty of assault during a Stockholm brawl and given a suspended sentence.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/7A23/production/_97176213_breaking_news_bigger.png


[14-Aug-19 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok


[14-Aug-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how trump will respond sicne he cares more about a rapper thna his own country


[14-Aug-19 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for Trump to embargo sweden


[14-Aug-19 02:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> army service for benefits
 I've heard this alredy somewhere...


[14-Aug-19 02:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Never heard of this rapper...


[14-Aug-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hadnt either before the trump scandal


[14-Aug-19 02:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What scandal?


[14-Aug-19 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
in the US, you get the same free/cheap healthcare and university benefits if you join the military that most of europe gets just for being born


[14-Aug-19 02:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> figthing rapper in sweden
Sorry, lol what?


[14-Aug-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump threatened sweden bbecause they arrested an amewrican rapper for starting a fight


[14-Aug-19 02:24 PM] Crow#5457
some black US rapper visiting sweden got arrested for brawling, trump's using him as a sort of reverse scapegoat in order to prove he's not racist


[14-Aug-19 02:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
...


[14-Aug-19 02:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow some European countries only give these benefits after actual service.


[14-Aug-19 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here university benefits depends on your exam, the higher grade you get, the more benefits you get.


[14-Aug-19 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's called bursary.


[14-Aug-19 02:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So the top 10 universities in China are free to enter, and even give you money every year; but some shitty universities will cost your one leg


[14-Aug-19 02:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
...


[14-Aug-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is super fucking dumb


[14-Aug-19 02:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why


[14-Aug-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because by any other standard you;d be paying a leg for the top 10 and nothing for the shitty universities


[14-Aug-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or in america;s case, an arm and a leg regardless fo status


[14-Aug-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing would be free


[14-Aug-19 02:41 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
。。。


[14-Aug-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again america;s system is far worse so i canlt really throw your educational system under criticism either


[14-Aug-19 02:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Good universities are paid by the gov


[14-Aug-19 02:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like Peking University, they got about 3 billion yuan per year from the gov


[14-Aug-19 02:44 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But bad universities got nothing but taxes


[14-Aug-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as in they get tax payer money, or thye get taxed themselves?


[14-Aug-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when explained, this sounds almost exactly like the american system, minus the students gettign in free thing


[14-Aug-19 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america it's less about good grades and mroe about how rich your parents are


[14-Aug-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor people go tot he shitty universities, while rich kids go tot he top 10 and get paid their way through


[14-Aug-19 02:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here just depends on the score


[14-Aug-19 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), similar stuff happens in european universities (specifically germany), STEM courses are typically free or very cheap, while bullshit courses like basket weaving cost an arm and a leg


[14-Aug-19 02:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Math, Chinese, English, and the courses you choose


[14-Aug-19 02:51 PM] Crow#5457
and usually, the more expensive courses are, the worse they are


[14-Aug-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
earth is backwards and stupid...


[14-Aug-19 02:52 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, most sane people wouldn't take basket weaving to begin with


[14-Aug-19 02:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here most students in good universities have poor family


[14-Aug-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[14-Aug-19 02:53 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because rich families usually bring their children abroad


[14-Aug-19 02:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For good universities in other countries don't need too good grade


[14-Aug-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america if a poor person wants to go to a good university thye have to go into crippling debt


[14-Aug-19 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
unless they join the US military


[14-Aug-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again thye also have to go into crippling debt to attend the shitty universities too


[14-Aug-19 02:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Debt for university students?


[14-Aug-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[14-Aug-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually in america you pretty much have to go into debt to afford basically anything you;d expect would be affordable


[14-Aug-19 02:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China students go into debt usually to buy IPhone or Nike


[14-Aug-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a credit score is basically a measure of how much debt you have and how fast you paid it back, and a good credit score is required to actually do anything at all like buy a home, or a car. of course the mroe crippling debt you have the worse your credit score


[14-Aug-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then there;s bullshit laws surroundign the credit score itself, you arent allowed to jsut ask your bank for that information, and awhile back toe ven see that information actually lowered your credit score


[14-Aug-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
if you have the ability to do it, the best option is to never take on debt in the US


[14-Aug-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
for most people that's not an option at all


[14-Aug-19 02:59 PM] Crow#5457
basically, enjoy being poor, it's your fault you were born that way


[14-Aug-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
people have to use credit to buy things like computers, cars, houses


[14-Aug-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Mobile phones


[14-Aug-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
the US becoming, quite literally, a cashless society


[14-Aug-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
and lenders are becoming increasingly predatory


[14-Aug-19 03:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> pay all the way through
That's why modern russian universities mean squat. Because everyone just pays for pass marks. And you would not want that guy to be your doctor.


[14-Aug-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
The average APR for credit card debt in the US is something insane like 20%


[14-Aug-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
And sometimes people still have no choice but to pay the minimum


[14-Aug-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and god help you if you fall ill or break a bone


[14-Aug-19 03:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Monetary slavery.


[14-Aug-19 03:02 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
China just built the credit score system this year...


[14-Aug-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I consider myself extremely lucky that I have not yet had to take on any considerable debts


[14-Aug-19 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same,i;m even on a grant for college. though if that ends so does my run with college


[14-Aug-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not going into debt for broken education


[14-Aug-19 03:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"You just need a paper and not actual education"


[14-Aug-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Aug-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
US education is not so broken as to where you can pay for degrees from universities


[14-Aug-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Such places are called diploma mills and are widely rejected


[14-Aug-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only ones gettign away with payign their way through are the rich who can pay through actuall universities


[14-Aug-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of the mills


[14-Aug-19 03:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But these are  diploma mills which are for the poor?


[14-Aug-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
typically diploma mills are a scam taking advatage of desperate people in need of a diploma/degree


[14-Aug-19 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor people have to rely on a rapidly decaying merit system that judges based on skill, rich people have family connections and a shit ton of strings to pull to get where they need as such, degrees are more a formality since they're likely to get the jobs anyway because daddy pulled strings for them. Granted, there are rich people who do geniuenly try to work with merit and skill and get hired for their own skills. but that's getting rarer now adays


[14-Aug-19 03:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like today's russia, the same happens.


[14-Aug-19 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to add an extra layer of russia, i think america based their educational system on the russian structure


[14-Aug-19 03:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
First, relatives get hired, then skilled workers.


[14-Aug-19 03:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In which terms is education similar to russian?


[14-Aug-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nvm i was thinking of prussia


[14-Aug-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american educational system is based on the prussian structure


[14-Aug-19 03:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Russian education used to be top notch. It is ruined now.


[14-Aug-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is designed to weed out the free thinkers and move forward the corporately loyal


[14-Aug-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why must so many bad things come out of Prussia


[14-Aug-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nietzsche, alienative education, WWI...


[14-Aug-19 03:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-19 03:26 PM] ononim#8141
Imagine the timeline where Catherine II didn't commit not alive before 7 year war ended and Prussia was yeeted


[14-Aug-19 03:27 PM] ononim#8141
Hay!


[14-Aug-19 03:27 PM] ononim#8141
Horse lover boy is not that bad!


[14-Aug-19 03:27 PM] ononim#8141
Blame his sister


[14-Aug-19 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
What if Prussia was just yeeted by Bavaria and Germany was rules by the relatively friendly Leiderhosen Germans


[14-Aug-19 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
As opposed to militant North Germans with skulls on hats


[14-Aug-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if aggressive yodeling nazis?


[14-Aug-19 03:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I know how it sounds....


[14-Aug-19 03:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine Germany always being https://youtu.be/dP9Wp6QVbsk

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[14-Aug-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ee2d9d93291c455a9cc72a7775e44b80

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Flights restart at Hong Kong airport as protesters apologize
HONG KONG (AP) — Flights resumed at Hong Kong's airport Wednesday after two days of disruptions marked by outbursts of violence that highlight the hardening positions of pro-democracy protesters...
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[14-Aug-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/290fe000b4584ddca46a6eb36a74a703

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Trump official: Statue of Liberty poem is about Europeans
WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Trump administration official says that the famous inscription on the Statue of Liberty welcoming immigrants into the country is about "people coming from Europe" and that...
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[14-Aug-19 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
big oof


[14-Aug-19 03:40 PM] ononim#8141
The fucking poem author was a Sepharidic Jew


[14-Aug-19 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, as we all know the meaning and purpose of history is all determined by who is in power. Which is convenient because it allows us to overlook Washington's status as an absentee landlord for the frontier and how he forcefully evicted impoverished frontiersmen from his land.


[14-Aug-19 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or the mechanical way he acquired land titles under the table for self enrichment.


[14-Aug-19 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Among other things.


[14-Aug-19 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
👌


[14-Aug-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
non europeans need not apply for american citizenship


[14-Aug-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/79569306f7094f7e939abe1acd767b55

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Trump order could weaken protections for monarch butterflies
GREENBELT, Md. (AP) — Hand-raising monarch butterflies in the midst of a global extinction crisis, Laura Moore and her neighbors gather round in her suburban Maryland yard to launch a butterfly...
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[14-Aug-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6aede98cae6e45baa9417236acf2b0c9

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Alleged Christchurch gunman sends letter from prison cell
WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — New Zealand officials admitted Wednesday that they made a mistake by allowing the man accused of killing 51 people at two Christchurch mosques to send a hand-written...
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[14-Aug-19 04:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Let the guy who tried to convince people that they are being replaced by Muslims and they should try and stop it with murder send letters to people. What could possibly go wrong?


[14-Aug-19 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49348062

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'No chance of US deal' if Brexit hits Irish accord
Congress will block a UK trade deal if Brexit harms the Good Friday Agreement, key US Democrat says.
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[14-Aug-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/

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VIDEO: "the police began looking for me…"Google Sent Threatening Letter to Google Insider Zachary Vorhies: "they knew what I had done and that letter contained several demands"HUNDREDS of In
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[14-Aug-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/12/05/harvard-scientists-begin-experiment-to-block-out-the-sun/

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Harvard Scientists Begin Experiment To Block Out The Sun
A group of Harvard scientists plans to tackle climate change through geoengineering by blocking out the sun. The concept of artificially reflecting sunlight has been around for decades, yet this will be the first real attempt at controlling Earth's temperature through solar e...
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[14-Aug-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
climate change is forcing us to use super villain tactics now


[14-Aug-19 06:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Block out the sun.. I think I've seen this somewhere...


[14-Aug-19 06:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Plot twist: it is a trick to remove renewable energy from the market.


[14-Aug-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
double plot twist: it;s a trick to harvest dark energy for renewable energy.


[14-Aug-19 06:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yeah, oil is so old-fashioned.


[14-Aug-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
triple plot twist: eggman pees on the moon


[14-Aug-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e7113c50a6fd4d2688fc2f2b8a9a91cd

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ICE raids raise question: What about the employers?
HOUSTON (AP) — The images of children crying after their parents were arrested in a massive immigration raid in Mississippi revived a longstanding complaint: Unauthorized workers are jailed or...
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[14-Aug-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the obvious answer is that they get off scott free because campaign donations


[14-Aug-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless they're a small business owner, then they get thrown in jail to eliminate competition to monopolies


[14-Aug-19 07:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure under law they technically don't suffer any penalties, which means they can knowingly fire illegals. The issue is a bigger labor one too, since employers don't face any charges or damages for having illegals they can leverage legality against them to carry out union busting. So if anyone tries to organize they can just summon immigration authorities and arrest the lot of them.


[14-Aug-19 07:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then hire a new batch.


[14-Aug-19 07:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's harder to union bust legal immigrants or residents of the US and requires nice and expensive counter-programming to fight organizing attempts. Or even paying the Pinkertons to do it. Illegals give the opportunity to smash at the first whiff.


[14-Aug-19 07:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/world/africa/cape-town-crime-military.html

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Cape Town has become one of the world’s most dangerous cities, and the government has deployed troops to quell the violence. Many residents welcome the soldiers’ presence, but worry about what’s next.
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[14-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-failed-nuclear-test-hints-putin-s-dangerous-plans-beat-n1041721

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[14-Aug-19 08:19 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
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[14-Aug-19 08:19 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
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[14-Aug-19 08:33 PM] ononim#8141
scaling down practices what harm enviroment and fasten climate change, actually enforcing already existing rules and punish corporations what defy them: I sleep
doing some comic book hijinks to try and mitigate lcimate change: **Real shit?**


[14-Aug-19 08:34 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure this is the exact scenario as the ending of Dinosaurs


[14-Aug-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/k9b9aoINXzk

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[14-Aug-19 08:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/john-daly-defends-trump-golf-cheating-allegations

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Champion golfer John Daly defended President Trump on Tuesday over allegations the commander-in-chief is one of the most prolific cheaters when he plays a round of golf.
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[14-Aug-19 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[14-Aug-19 09:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cry me a river.

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[14-Aug-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
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[14-Aug-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
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[14-Aug-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[14-Aug-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Steve King


[14-Aug-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A Habsburg one


[14-Aug-19 10:04 PM] ononim#8141

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[14-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[14-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/14/kashmir-more-protests-expected-as-india-marks-independence

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Kashmir: Imran Khan says Pakistan will 'teach India a lesson'
Pakistan PM says army is preparing to respond to anticipated Indian aggression in region
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[14-Aug-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
SOUTH ASIAN POSADISM TIME


[14-Aug-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Aug-19 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"teach India a lesson"


[14-Aug-19 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bitch you threatened to teach the same lesson countless times in the past seventy years


[14-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://news.yahoo.com/priyanka-chopra-accused-encouraging-nuclear-101501904.html


[14-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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`India warns China to stay out of Kashmir dispute as crisis intensifies`

`India has issued a warning to China to stay out of the dispute over Kashmir’s status, after Pakistan said it would take the issue to the United Nations Security Council with the support of Beijing.

The remarks by the Indian foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, came after his Pakistani counterpart visited China in a bid to seek allies for a UN resolution against New Delhi for revoking Kashmir's autonomy.`


[14-Aug-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Steve King's argument against fixing mistakes in the present is that if you went around with a shotgun murdering everyone who is where they are now because of mistakes in the past, that would kill humanity.


[14-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I guess we shouldn't punish bribery with jailtime cause if we killed everyone who exists as they are today because of bribery, then we'd hav to kill all Europeans cause bribery was involved in Roman civil wars.


[14-Aug-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sorry @Itsthinking but, your ancestors committed tax fraud, so the liberal establishment is going to hav to turn you into soylent paper straws.


[14-Aug-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who will stop this horrid brain drain? Taxes are theft.


[14-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck it why try to fix anything?


[14-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saving the environment? Why not just recreate the Jurassic!


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fixing things is theft.


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Laws are theft.


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ending is better than mending.


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guns are authority etc.


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, do your duty and shoot a tree.


[14-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then rape your sister cause she smokes the devil's lettuce.


[14-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT comes to take away your gun and giv her therapy, shoot them too.


[14-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And remember, if the corporate overlords come to do the same, don't shoot them, they're white.


[14-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberal establishment is muslims in disguise, wearing the skin of white christians. You're allowed to shoot them to protect your guns you hav to protect your guns.


[14-Aug-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways in summary this is one thing conservatives do a lot that I hate


[14-Aug-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
they say that any attempt to call the current situation bad, and for us to fix it by changing it, is just trying to undo history.


[14-Aug-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile they literally themselves try to undo history to return to a worse situation.


[14-Aug-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
YOU WANT TO BAN GAS CARS? THAT'D LEAVE US RIDING HORSES! *Politician turns around and attempts to create legislation that'd force Ford to make all cars in America the way the model T was made.*


[14-Aug-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reductio ad absurdum


[14-Aug-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[15-Aug-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can't let the mexicans in, do you want to back in time and undo the mexican/american terrotory wars!?"


[15-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I get to shoot James K Polk in the head, absolutely. Giv me that damn time machine.


[15-Aug-19 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
James 🆗 Polk


[15-Aug-19 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down

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[15-Aug-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I estimate it'll be a few hours before Trump denounces FOX as being part of the lamestream media and letting down TRUE Americans


[15-Aug-19 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What do you think the chances are he'll make some kind of no true scotsman argument about this


[15-Aug-19 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, even amongst FOX itself


[15-Aug-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
100%, given he already did


[15-Aug-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's complained before about certain hosts being ebil


[15-Aug-19 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah but this was a poll of fox *viewers*


[15-Aug-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
trump thinks fox is too liberal


[15-Aug-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox could burn an orphanage down and they woudl still be too liberal for trump


[15-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He likes Fox and Friends, not Fox itself


[15-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fox and Friends is a pure propaganda program, like watching Maddow or something


[15-Aug-19 01:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK: Young black people are carrying knives and we need to get the message out about the dangers.
What do black people like?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49352330

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Chicken takeaway boxes warn of knife crime danger
Ministers want to dissuade young people from carrying weapons but critics say the plan is offensive.
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[15-Aug-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't think that stereotype was a thing outside of the US


[15-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also knives really aren't the problem, it's that these people are all chavs and other form of neets with zero positive outlooks for the future


[15-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The most they can aspire for is minimum wage manual labour for life


[15-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As much as I hate to sound like some 2A ultra-defender, if they ban knives they'll just use something else with barely a hit in the rate of stabbings/assaults


[15-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
screwdrivers, glass bottles, fountain pens... hell, the fuckers are already using acid in spray bottles


[15-Aug-19 01:48 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Aug-19 01:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Some gangs are filling cups of tea with lots of sugar and blinding people. The sugar cools of and becomes sticky very quickly which can do some serious damage to your eyes. Is the UK going to ban tea? It is such a simple and common thing to find in the UK. Do these guys just really like tea or are they going to blind someone?


[15-Aug-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, they'll ban sugar


[15-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Aug-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"small"


[15-Aug-19 05:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, there is also the chance that the world ends before we even get to wage the war


[15-Aug-19 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1161774305895694336

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I know President Xi of China very well. He is a great leader who very much has the respect of his people. He is also a good man in a “tough business.” I have ZERO doubt that if President Xi wants to quickly and humanely solve the Hong Kong problem, he can do it. Person...
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[15-Aug-19 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dafuq


[15-Aug-19 05:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Quickly and humanely...🔫


[15-Aug-19 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
💥


[15-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
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Boating accidents on the rise, yet boat insurance rates remain the same.
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[15-Aug-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess we'll just let Winnie take Hong Kong.


[15-Aug-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When is Chin from Hong Kong 97' gonna help


[15-Aug-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Aug-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
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Crazy Hong Kong Cops beat up the protesters
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[15-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
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Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean we can’t be friends.
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[15-Aug-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://millercenter.org/president/roosevelt/domestic-affairs

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Theodore Roosevelt: Domestic Affairs | Miller Center


[15-Aug-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/autopsy-finds-broken-bones-in-jeffrey-epsteins-neck-deepening-questions-around-his-death/2019/08/14/d09ac934-bdd9-11e9-b873-63ace636af08_story.html


[15-Aug-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
> An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.


[15-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.


[15-Aug-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
basically, a bone known to break in a suicide by hanging for a man of his age, but also much more common in strangulation murders


[15-Aug-19 09:32 AM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/mh426jef_HE

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United States and Turkey Agree to a Syrian “Safe Zone," Betrayin...
Baris Karaagac discusses how the U.S allowed the Turkish government seize land in northern Syria to counter Russian and Iranian influence in spite of former ...
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[15-Aug-19 09:32 AM] ononim#8141
It Be Like That Sometimes


[15-Aug-19 09:33 AM] ononim#8141

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[15-Aug-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cam.ac.uk/exposinganazi

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Exposing a Nazi: The exhibition destroying a myth
An exhibition exposing the Nazism of artist Emil Nolde is sending shock waves through Germany https://www.cam.ac.uk/exposinganazi


[15-Aug-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
> In 1941, the Nazis banned Emil Nolde from painting, for life. For the past 50 years, many Germans have viewed him as the persecuted artist, someone who flirted with Nazism but saw the light and suffered for his art. But now a major exhibition in Berlin, co-curated by a Cambridge historian, has shattered this myth and sent shock waves through the country.


[15-Aug-19 10:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Epstein's hyoid bone being broken should be surprising; it wasn't autoerotic asphyxiation, and I can imagine if he offed himself he'd have let his knees drop to give a good yank


[15-Aug-19 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49354178

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PM Modi vows to 'restore' Kashmir's 'past glory'
In his Independence Day speech, India's PM says ending Kashmir's autonomy will help the region grow.
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[15-Aug-19 12:02 PM] Crow#5457
fascists and their "restore to former glory" nonsense


[15-Aug-19 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Kashmir has been in lockdown for more than a week now, with mobile, landline and internet networks cut off and curfew-like restrictions that ban people from assembling in crowds.`


[15-Aug-19 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally not concerning


[15-Aug-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know the former glory where the indian military gets to murder people for being out slightly too late while forbidding them from having any social contact what so ever in case they plan a rebellion


[15-Aug-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep just look at that good old former glory


[15-Aug-19 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f07fdf3414ce4f85a228edb655da5053

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China threatens retaliation if US tariff hikes go ahead
BEIJING (AP) — China on Thursday threatened retaliation if Washington steps up their war over trade and technology by going ahead with planned Sept. 1 tariff hikes on additional Chinese...
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[15-Aug-19 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 01:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 01:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The only good thing for me is I just sold my thousands yuan bond of Hong Kong


[15-Aug-19 01:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If not, I'll lose hundreds


[15-Aug-19 01:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The bond of America is raising tho... maybe I can consider to buy some?


[15-Aug-19 01:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 01:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf, America's stock is falling as quickly as Hong Kong's


[15-Aug-19 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
that's because of the trade war


[15-Aug-19 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
goes up and down at the drop of a hat based on what trump and china say they're gonna do


[15-Aug-19 01:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe this is not a good year for buying stocks.


[15-Aug-19 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[15-Aug-19 01:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 01:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Shanghai's is raising!


[15-Aug-19 01:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But wtf is this "工业大麻(industrial weed)"?!


[15-Aug-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
marijuana related?


[15-Aug-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
if so, it's likely hemp


[15-Aug-19 01:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe I should just keep my money in Alipay...


[15-Aug-19 01:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the economy now is too unstable


[15-Aug-19 01:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The economy is going to go to shit pretty soon


[15-Aug-19 01:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd advise investing in something that's unlikely to be affected too severely


[15-Aug-19 01:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'll use my money for my university next month


[15-Aug-19 01:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I need a new computer, and a lot of books


[15-Aug-19 01:27 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The tuition is 4500 yuan per year, about 650 dollars... But I have only 7500 yuan


[15-Aug-19 01:27 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I bought too much... uh... toys

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[15-Aug-19 01:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The economy is tied to leaders chins these days. once their mouth opens their chins drop and so does the economy. When their mouth is closed their chins are up and so is the economy.

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[15-Aug-19 01:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
POSADISM WITH ASIAN CHARACTERISTICS SOON. HERE WE COMR REVOLUTION.

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[15-Aug-19 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Aug-19 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
>industrialization


[15-Aug-19 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that's exactly what lenin wanted


[15-Aug-19 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://thereformedbroker.com/2016/12/13/every-unified-republican-government-ever-has-led-to-a-financial-crash/

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Josh here - below, I bring you a guest post from the mysterious and clever Wall Street Ranter, whose work you've seen on these pages before. You can, of course, argue correlation vs causation about th
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[15-Aug-19 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
> In fact, the ONLY 3 PERIODS of extended unified Republican governments going back to 1900 ALL DIRECTLY led to banking crises….Arguably the 3 worst in US History. To be clear, I am defining ‘extended’ unified governments as anytime they control the House, Senate and White house for at least 4 years. This does not include short 2 year stints since it’s hard to screw things up that quick (FYI there was only 1 period of that anyway, 1953-1955).


[15-Aug-19 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
old, but pretty interesting correlation


[15-Aug-19 03:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/rulesObeyer/status/1161820065773182976

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@AmazonFCCarol i feel like im talking to the borg
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[15-Aug-19 03:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Scary thread


[15-Aug-19 03:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ilhan-omar-and-rashida-tlaib-barred-from-entering-israel-a9060856.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1565871245

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Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib 'barred from entering Israel'
Democratic congresswomen Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib have been barred from entering Israel ahead of an expected visit, Israeli media has reported. The decision was announced on Israeli television
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[15-Aug-19 03:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao they scared af


[15-Aug-19 04:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 04:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The leader of the Hong Kong strikers have just come to New York for his university studies...


[15-Aug-19 04:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Aug-19 04:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Goodbye bitches! The future of Equestria is all about you now! I will be in my castle in Canterlot watching you being beaten the shit out. Good luck!"


[15-Aug-19 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/kashmir-fire-loc-kills-3-pakistani-5-indian-troops-190815125820838.html

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Kashmir cross-border fire 'kills 3 Pakistani, 5 Indian soldiers'
In response to Pakistani army's statement, report says Indian army denies 5 Indian soldiers were killed.
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[15-Aug-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Aug-19 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
props to the phone's design team I guess


[15-Aug-19 05:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Most phones have all the important parts near the center or bottom of the phone. This phone likely lost a speaker, camera, light sensor and reduced signal if that is were the antenna was.


[15-Aug-19 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lost two thirds of the screen as well =p


[15-Aug-19 08:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/14/white-mississippi-sheriff-jim-johnson-sent-racist-text-lee-county/2009762001/

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White Mississippi sheriff calls lawmaker ‘worse than a black per...
White Mississippi Sheriff Jim Johnson made a racist remark in a text message, a public records request by a local newspaper reveals.
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[15-Aug-19 10:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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This week's news without the bullshit (week 32 2019 uncensored)
Welcome to the 32nd week of news without the bullshit. This week we’ll be covering the Hong Kong riots, Jeffery Epstein, US mass shootings, Apex Legends, Ove...
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[15-Aug-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f5eebbc0474b4ff09f47d038895f8b83

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Trump's stance on Hong Kong shows his focus on China trade
WASHINGTON (AP) — Rather than speak up strongly for the Hong Kong protesters, President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested the answer to their complaints of Chinese oppression is simply for...
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[15-Aug-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing ping he'll accept the talks and then schedule the massacre the same day jsut to set an example of his inflexibility


[15-Aug-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish that was sarcasm but this is china...


[16-Aug-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-eyes-a-new-real-estate-purchase-greenland-11565904223

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President Trump Eyes a New Real-Estate Purchase: Greenland
The idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland has captured the president’s imagination, according to people familiar with the deliberations, who said Mr. Trump has repeatedly expressed interested in the notion.
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[16-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
there's oil in them hills


[16-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or more likely, he just wants the US to be the largest country by landmass


[16-Aug-19 12:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yuuuge cuntry


[16-Aug-19 12:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this is totally not colonialism, trust me guys


[16-Aug-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently one previous president wanted to purchase it as well and denmark said no


[16-Aug-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
harry s truman i beleive


[16-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, US presidents have a historical half-obsession with purchasing Greenland


[16-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
there were serious talks about it when Denmark was occupied by the nazis in WW2


[16-Aug-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can america even afford a greenland right now?


[16-Aug-19 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i think they can, but it'd surelly be a bit of a piece of bad news for both greenlanders and the local environment


[16-Aug-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that has drill, baby, drill written all over it if trump is the oen going after it


[16-Aug-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or in Trumps case, a new private golfing island


[16-Aug-19 01:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can see it now: Greenland, the 51st State. Colder than Alaska and with an incredibly difficult language. I think. Or it's a more ancient language having been isolated old Norse.


[16-Aug-19 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can you imagine middle class suburbanites trying to pronounce anything there when many already have trouble with existing place names at times?


[16-Aug-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
obviously he just wants to accelerate global warming by nuking the ice

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[16-Aug-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Greenland would be super blue


[16-Aug-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go ahead, I say


[16-Aug-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that depends on what he wants it for


[16-Aug-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may attempt to purchase it and attmept to evict the residents to build soemthing else entirely


[16-Aug-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a purchase also wouldnt automatically make it a state, it would make it a territory


[16-Aug-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like puerto rico


[16-Aug-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does peurto rico vote in us elections?


[16-Aug-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Since it's not a state, Puerto Ricans in the island don't vote in U.S. presidential elections and don't vote in U.S. congressional elections, though they do vote for presidential primaries. ... However, Puerto Ricans who reside in the mainland U.S. vote do vote in U.S. elections.


[16-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It would absolutely not be a state


[16-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DC, Puerto Rico, and Greenland if acquired should be one


[16-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck, Guam should be a state


[16-Aug-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but they wont be because that would give them too much power in a republican lead nation


[16-Aug-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and suddenly the entire demographics changed and the economic developments as well


[16-Aug-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greenland can be as blue as it wants and it wouldn't matter at all


[16-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Greenland would be a puppet.


[16-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't hav puppets acquire full status in your empire


[16-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
then suddenly people demand things like not dying horribly


[16-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Denmark of course will refuse.


[16-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what could the US even giv to convince them into a permanent territory transfer?


[16-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
nukes, obviously


[16-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US lost a nuke in greenland once IIRC


[16-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Denmark didn't want it.


[16-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They've said no before


[16-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least we didn't try to buy Newfoundland again


[16-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Screech-powered rebellion would make the Philippine-American War look like a Sunday drive.


[16-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What could the US give Denmark...


[16-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit uh, sharing their UNSC seat?


[16-Aug-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Philippine-American War
Man, it really feels like this war is just ignored all the time


[16-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Easy to forget.


[16-Aug-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so easy i;ve never even learned about it... i should look into that


[16-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US fought Spain to get the Philippines


[16-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Philippines fought US to become independent


[16-Aug-19 01:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I don't think they really even managed that until Japan forced us out.


[16-Aug-19 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the US never left militarily until one of our bases on the island literally got buried by a volcano. So John McCain figured, "eh, fuck it" and never out through Congress a bill to reopen it


[16-Aug-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cubans were also ass mad at us betraying their own independence struggle and the Spanish-Americab war just ended in a change in colonial power.


[16-Aug-19 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Enter an era of political instability ending at Castro.


[16-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cuba under communism isn't that bad supposedly

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[16-Aug-19 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, the last guy was killing more people on a daily basis than Fidel ever did.


[16-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant like how many doctors come from Cuba, their literacy rate, child mortality, etc


[16-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They have a sneakerware version of the Internet


[16-Aug-19 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Doctors so powerful Bolsonaro is afraid of them.


[16-Aug-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i once tried accessing the Granma, the govt newspaper agency of Cuba, through my pc


[16-Aug-19 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but i couldn't because it was slow as fuck to load


[16-Aug-19 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine your only internet access being through Venezuela because they're the only ones who'll flaunt the US who actively encourages people to not plug the net in.


[16-Aug-19 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally the only place with a high speed fiber on Cuba is Quantanamo


[16-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Small brain: Keep Gitmo as it is


[16-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly enlightened: Close Gitmo, give back to Cuba


[16-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fully enlightened: Close Gitmo, open resorts


[16-Aug-19 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
The funny thing is that we keep offering them the rent on Gitmo but they refuse and demand it back.


[16-Aug-19 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Repeat every year


[16-Aug-19 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being the treasury dude in charge of that.


[16-Aug-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No U!"- Treasurer of Cuba


[16-Aug-19 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
g u a n t a n a m e r a


[16-Aug-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
Legit would probably preffer Cuba tp current place of residence ||even without idelogical simphaties|| if there were a place to live there and stable income


[16-Aug-19 03:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/vTg20QpE93s

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[16-Aug-19 05:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Aug-19 05:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Beijing is about to legalize foreign companies selling VPNs in Chinese mainland.


[16-Aug-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://cisphobic-seahorse.tumblr.com/post/186898103377/oh-i-havent-seen-anyone-talking-about-this-but

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My name is Dad
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My name is Dad
Oh, I haven't seen anyone talking about this, but someone posted the link to this thread in a group and I can't find it anymore, but have these.
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[16-Aug-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
um


[16-Aug-19 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
So far In trumps america: Farmers are still getting shit on and we the people are getting vomit on


[16-Aug-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I hate to say it but this is just straight up numerology at this point


[16-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_Anunnery/status/1158576865453334528

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https://twitter.com/_Anunnery/status/1158576865453334528
Well, this makes me absolutely sick, but the bizarre #feralhogs tweet is fascist dogwhistle bait. Add the oddly specific quantities in the feral hogs tweet:
30+50 = 80
3+5 = 8

and the idea presented of invading pigs threatening his children, and protection by violence.
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[16-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's the original tweet


[16-Aug-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
doesn't anyone remember the numerology craze that happened right after 9/11? *Before* it was just an ironic meme?


[16-Aug-19 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
uhhhh


[16-Aug-19 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I never even heard of that


[16-Aug-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where people did all sorts of crazy math with the digits 9 and 11 to prove it was a hoax/inside job


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
what year did It happen ?


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
2001, obviously


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thought so lol


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and I guess


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly, the same user has multiple posts making up seemingly random numbers that add together to form 8


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I heard of the bush did 9/11 more lol


[16-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
and multiple posts advocating for a "single solution" for a problem


[16-Aug-19 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yeah, numerology IS also a big part of neo-nazi "sacred geometry" rubbish


[16-Aug-19 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so what I'm trying to say here is we are dealing with a level of craziness that's beyond simply what's true, what's not, etc


[16-Aug-19 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and in making this post I'm afraid Anunnery may have just fueled a fire that didn't need it. That is, if it wasn't a dog whistle before, it *certainly is now*


[16-Aug-19 05:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I hardly know half of these people oof


[16-Aug-19 05:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but im glad I dont


[16-Aug-19 05:48 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but yeah once you make a post on twitter now days u fucked


[16-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Okay so when are we cancelling "14" and "88" like we did "retard" and "nigger"


[16-Aug-19 06:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I've heard of conspiracies but this just *reaching*


[16-Aug-19 10:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
this is straight up retardation


[16-Aug-19 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/16/asia/china-mulan-actor-protests-intl-hnk-trnd/index.html

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Hong Kong protesters call for 'Mulan' boycott
Liu Yifei, the actress starring in Disney's upcoming live-action "Mulan", waded into the Hong Kong protest controversy on Thursday by expressing support for the Hong Kong police.
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[16-Aug-19 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine this went down as The Mouse telling her what to say


[16-Aug-19 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Original Mulan wasn't received well in China, this should give it a nice patriotic PR boost


[16-Aug-19 12:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Aug-19 12:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong protesters began to use their children as the shelds for their fighting.


[16-Aug-19 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ppft, Catalan protestors beat them to that by years


[16-Aug-19 12:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The police is now in a dilemma.


[16-Aug-19 12:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But, whatever they are fighting for, the reputation of the protestors is getting worse and worse these days.


[16-Aug-19 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By political pressuring, economic monoloping and public opinion controlling--which is CPC's expert game, now the protestors' organization is breaking up inside.


[16-Aug-19 01:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The leader they elected, Luo Guancong(Nathan Law), is now in Yale University and refuse to back to Hong Kong, while all their main sponsors are not in Hong Kong as well.


[16-Aug-19 01:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_StPHlsYM&list=OLAK5uy_kUl5EEUSy-yf8fdO4qP28t3WhKMYNqCdw&index=2

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The Love Song
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[16-Aug-19 01:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I would love for half of the media to hear this song


[16-Aug-19 01:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
It mentions being in love with guns/ government and god


[16-Aug-19 01:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they would really truly think hes more evil then they already do


[16-Aug-19 01:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I have been thinkin about this song so much with all the recent news


[16-Aug-19 01:42 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its like usas theme song


[16-Aug-19 01:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
"we can ignore any issue if we bring guns , gov, and god in the topic owo "


[16-Aug-19 01:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[16-Aug-19 01:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
you dont need a song to teach you


[16-Aug-19 01:43 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
just watch the news


[16-Aug-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wbir.com/mobile/article/news/kentucky-schools-using-1-bills-to-comply-with-law-requiring-display-of-in-god-we-trust/417-24f54faa-37aa-4787-9fd2-84bfdaae2c2d

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Kentucky schools use $1 bills to comply with law requiring display...
Lexington schools provided each school with framed copies of a one-dollar bill to comply with Kentucky law.
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[16-Aug-19 03:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[16-Aug-19 03:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm blocked from reading because GDPR, but the embed is enough


[16-Aug-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The lawmaker behind the law, Republican Representative Brandon Reed, said he is disappointed to see schools quote "spend time searching for silly loopholes."


[16-Aug-19 03:41 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't want to get sued


[16-Aug-19 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610
The law is obviously unconstitutional


[16-Aug-19 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP is insane


[16-Aug-19 03:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh no, how *dare* schools not devoutly observe Christianity


[16-Aug-19 03:43 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Clearly *this* is what's causing all this gun violence, as well as vidya


[16-Aug-19 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
notadeliciousminuette

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[16-Aug-19 03:44 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>stop buying electricity from the Mainland


[16-Aug-19 03:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>while Hong Kong has no electric plant and all the electricity is from the Mainland


[16-Aug-19 03:46 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:faceclaw:


[16-Aug-19 04:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Solar panels and wind could be used for electricity if someone in HK really didn't want to give money to the mainland.


[16-Aug-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Aug-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3638e75195b043d8b3bcdd1b521b4ac0

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Google employees call for pledge not to work with ICE
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[16-Aug-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Aug-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/08/15/trump-proposes-legal-discrimination-lgbt-people-religion/

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[16-Aug-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"LGBT people love me very much, I'm like the greatest dom for their sub culture"


[16-Aug-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ca1b9844d6fa4bb7a8169de4bf62dc96 "You have to vote for me, I'm the one holding the antidote to the bills i passed! MUHAHAHA"

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[16-Aug-19 05:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Baron plays Minecraft, right?


[16-Aug-19 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he'll snuff Trump out in his sleep


[16-Aug-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can only hope


[16-Aug-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c5e6c1f5b1ad4e42ad835eb2eb296ed0

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[16-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/16/751499719/devastating-banana-fungus-arrives-in-colombia-threatening-the-fruits-future

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A fungus that has destroyed banana plantations in Asia is now in Latin America. The disease moves slowly, but there's no cure, and it could mean calamity for the continent's banana industry.
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[16-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Now thats serious news


[16-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Imagine world without bananas

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[16-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sedcate:


[16-Aug-19 09:29 PM] ononim#8141
!p celestia, sad


[16-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[16-Aug-19 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-49376996/trump-apologises-for-fat-shaming-supporter

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Trump apologises for 'fat-shaming' supporter
At a rally, the president misdirected his ire at a man he thought supported a group of protesters.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/21CE/production/_108345680_p07kwh5z.jpg


[16-Aug-19 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the dude was apparently okay with it


[16-Aug-19 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
something to the effect of "well he thought i was a protester, so it's fine"


[16-Aug-19 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Speaking of dudes who are also "fine" with the president's behavior...

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[16-Aug-19 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I had to look to see if this was photoshopped. The first 3 articles I found while searching for "trump kisses bride" were from 3 separate instances. They all bascially boil down to the headline "Trump crashes wedding, kisses bride" and it happens often enough at Mar-A-Lago that they apparently advertise Trump potentially showing up as a reason to host your wedding there


[16-Aug-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more like a reason to avoid hosting weddings there


[16-Aug-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't believe there's a good chance that our choices in 2020 are going to end up being between uncle touchy and **this guy.**


[16-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I love how Trump fans have en masse left positive reviews of his Las Vegas hotel


[16-Aug-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in which case, sure, I'll take a shoulder massage, that's fine


[16-Aug-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah good old nostalgic uncle touchy


[16-Aug-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To the point where it is now considered top 4 even though it never was before 2016


[16-Aug-19 10:50 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Uncle 30330


[16-Aug-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is the "back in my day"ncandidate of the democratic party but bakc in my day was 3 years ago and the save file got corrupted


[16-Aug-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if Bernie Bros will be satisfied with Warren


[16-Aug-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll vote warren if it comes tot hat


[16-Aug-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or if they are such "socialists" that they'll vote for a Republican again


[16-Aug-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i didnt really get that decision


[16-Aug-19 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah those are the guys jumping on the Yang Gang


[16-Aug-19 10:57 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm just worried that Sanders and Warren won't have much in the way of beating Trump


[16-Aug-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't throw away everything the left has worked for because you like Old Free College Meme Man


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What would Sanders do that Warren couldnt, even as a VP


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I personally see Warren as the best bet if Biden would just *get out of the way*


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And I really think Yang would be the best Democrat option, ignoring "can s/he beat Trump", but I don't see him winning the primary


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
though I personally would've loved Mayor Pete to be at the top


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh they're going to pick a coalition ticket anyway


[16-Aug-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bidens policy is he wants to become president so he can put his fingers in his ears and pretend obama never left office


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Are they working on swing logic? Push it out far enough and it will swing back even harder?


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's gonna be Biden and Warren or Harris


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good balance there


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden/Warren would be pretty nice


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't dislike Biden as much as many


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what do you think the chances are that they'll try and make a dream team like that happen


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he has the right attitude to approach Trump and his supporters


[16-Aug-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont dislike biden, but i dont see him as a president


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Like, Biden isn't my ideal candidate but he's honestly good enough


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't dislike Biden but I don't see him *winning against trump*


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
Every person who I seen who is self atested leftist and would vote for Bernie would vote for Warren if it come to her on the ballout


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The polls consistently have him above Trump


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
And most leftist people who think Warren is too liberal don't vote in principle


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the polls are in English, though :ponythinking:


[16-Aug-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s too early for the polls to matter though


[16-Aug-19 11:01 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
True


[16-Aug-19 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, right now the *squad* is more popular than Trump in a head-to-head and they're not even running


[16-Aug-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cortez might have been running if it werent for her age


[16-Aug-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but who knows


[16-Aug-19 11:01 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel like McGrath vs McConnell will be much more important than Trump vs "eventual Dem winner"


[16-Aug-19 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Occasio-Cortez would be a viable candidate if the GOP didn't exist


[16-Aug-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real election is congressional and senatorial


[16-Aug-19 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, in the future Liberals want where the entire right side falls off a cliff and we're just left with democrats and blue dog democrats...


[16-Aug-19 11:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The right side just feels like a "fuck the Dems" echo chamber right now


[16-Aug-19 11:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Then again, the left kinda does too, but at least they're discussing policy with it


[16-Aug-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It has been for over a decade now


[16-Aug-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's essentially what they are, they're the party of fuck the dems, fuck their regulations, I dew wat ah wawnt! Now give me money!"


[16-Aug-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
overtly, at least


[16-Aug-19 11:04 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The attitude of "only my opponents need to be held accountable" emanating from the GOP is just fucking obnoxious


[16-Aug-19 11:05 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sure, call the other side a bully for giving you a nickname of "Moscow Mitch", but hey it's totally fine that your supporters took a picture of your political opponent on a gravestone


[16-Aug-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What do you mean, your account was suspended? LEFTIST SUPPRESSION!!!!!!!!1111!!!


[16-Aug-19 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also be sure to call every democrat you see a racist. That'll show 'em


[16-Aug-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They;re racist against the racists!"


[16-Aug-19 11:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not to say that the left doesn't fuck up either, but when they do, the party actually holds them accountable


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Just ask Biden with his "poor kids, white kids" gaffe


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The right has nothing to sell people but "owning the libs"


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's it


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and their support beam now are mitch and trump


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that's crumbling


[16-Aug-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any criticism of a right wing policy no matter how nuanced or structured in a constructive way is TDS


[16-Aug-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal isn't debate it's just to rabble rouse


[16-Aug-19 11:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
TDS?


[16-Aug-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmmm sounds like they have a case of the ODS


[16-Aug-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ocasio derangement syndrome


[16-Aug-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
TDS= Trump Derangemnt Syndrome


[16-Aug-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a fancy way of dismissing criticism as "Dem librawls are duh bumhat"


[16-Aug-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's kind of obnoxious how backwards some will bend just to say Trump isn't racist


[16-Aug-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"show me direct evidence"


[16-Aug-19 11:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Have you *been* to one of his rallies?


[16-Aug-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or seen one on tv?


[16-Aug-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or read any of his tweets?


[16-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless he says the 14 words it isn't enough


[16-Aug-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm going to go into his Twitter feed and straight up look for a tweet that's just explicitly racism


[16-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even then you'd have Carlson and Moscow Mitch saying like "well what is wrong with wanting a future for your children"


[16-Aug-19 11:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And I don't suspect it'll take long


[16-Aug-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does Mitch even have children?


[16-Aug-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue


[16-Aug-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But his wife is an immigrant


[16-Aug-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3 all daughters


[16-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's mainly the Central Park Five thing


[16-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For me at least, he seems to like innocent until proven guilty but not when he doesn't like the results


[16-Aug-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s msot republicans


[16-Aug-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's all "innocent until proven guilty" until someone they dont like gets off innocent, or one of their own is found guilty


[16-Aug-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then theys tart making the excuses


[16-Aug-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like video games during shootings


[16-Aug-19 11:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's innocent till guilty for them, but guilty till innocent for the left


[16-Aug-19 11:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also, if "go back to your countries" doesn't count as "explicitly racist", I'm not sure what does anymore


[16-Aug-19 11:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And that also means nearly every single accusation Reps make towards Dems of being socialist is equally invalid because their justification is "not explicit"


[16-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nlrb.gov/case/31-CA-246638


[16-Aug-19 11:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The hell


[16-Aug-19 11:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What did they do


[16-Aug-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ceo of the company went on twitter and declared that any people attempting to unionize would be fired ont he spot


[16-Aug-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[16-Aug-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is very illegal


[16-Aug-19 11:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I suppose that the tweet has since been deleted but that a large amount of people have it saved anyway


[16-Aug-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[16-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait he deleted it?


[16-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[16-Aug-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really know


[16-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless you can't do what he did and he's got years of tweets about how he hates unions and even those go too far


[16-Aug-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/anti-union-tweets-founder-barstool-sports-draw-labor-law-concerns-n1041936

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Barstool Sports founder's anti-union tweets draw labor law concerns
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the New York State Department of Labor both responded to the tweets, saying the threat might be illegal.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_33/2969801/190813-dave-portnoy-cs-230p_a3012520fc10f83fa069650d51392782.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[16-Aug-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Difference between "I don't think a union would be good" and "I will crush a union and fire anyone who tries it"


[16-Aug-19 11:32 PM] Mikey#7286
unions wouldn't be necessary if employers treated and paid their employees fairly


[16-Aug-19 11:33 PM] Mikey#7286
so saying you'll unionize is essentially telling employers they don't like how they're treated


[16-Aug-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/aa6c92d530724ab69c46924ebbb79eeb

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https://apnews.com/aa6c92d530724ab69c46924ebbb79eeb
Panel rules soap, sleep essential to migrant kids' safety
Immigrant children detained by the U.S. government should get edible food, clean water, soap and toothpaste under a longstanding agreement over detention conditions, a federal appeals panel ruled...
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[16-Aug-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
corporations hate unions and regulations because it basically prevents thmem from running their business liek a glorified slave prison


[16-Aug-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ideal business to a corporate CEO is an endless business day where shifts don't end, people are fired and replaced by conveyor belt, and there's no pay. If an emplpoyee dies of starvation or illness, or meat grinder injury, just replace thme with the new guy


[16-Aug-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if people get radiation poisoning jsut tell thme that licking the radiation is good for their health!


[16-Aug-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really the ideal business to them is a building full of robots, but that;s counter productive to having any customers


[17-Aug-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49339903

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49339903
US immigration office shot at in 'targeted attack'
ICE blames the shootings on "political rhetoric" about the Trump administration’s policies.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/8F34/production/_108306663_055734739-1.jpg


[17-Aug-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato, @Itsthinking, it wasn't deleted https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1161268795278790658

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Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente)
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1161268795278790658
If you work for @barstoolsports and DM this man I will fire you on the spot https://t.co/u9vG3VgfV1
Retweets
3066
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38320
Twitter


[17-Aug-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
there's such a large anti-union sentiment in the US that he'd feel he was in the right, even if it was illegal


[17-Aug-19 12:44 AM] Mikey#7286
what a chode


[17-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should be easy, will be fun to see his apology/the notice that they make them post


[17-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[17-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate that I realize that this song is bad now when I hear it on CONELRAD


[17-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/0XxYwWg7F8I

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CivilDefenseSpot
https://youtu.be/0XxYwWg7F8I
Marty Robbins - Ain't I Right
Ain't I Right: Marty Robbins [1966] You came down to this southern town last summer To show the folks a brand new way of life But all you've shown the folks ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0XxYwWg7F8I/hqdefault.jpg


[17-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The person he is talking about in the song


[17-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is MLk Jr.


[17-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The politician mentioned was one of the Kennedys


[17-Aug-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love that Trump's new campaign speech basically amounts to "i'm holding your economy and your 401k hostage, so love me or hate me you gotta vote for me! you jsut gotta!"


[17-Aug-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YH3OgnxTM

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Associated Press
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YH3OgnxTM
Trump:'love me or hate me, you got to vote for me'
President Donald Trump on Thursday sought to reassure his supporters about the state of the US economy despite stock market volatility and told rallygoers in...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_5YH3OgnxTM/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Aug-19 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm just amazed that his slogan changed from MAGA to - as seen in the background of this thumbnail - "keep america great." Think about this. It implies that, in the 3 years since Trump took office, he not only fulfilled the promise he made in his first campaign, but that the current status quo *is* what "greatness" means for America. Now think about what has actually changed in those 3 years.


[17-Aug-19 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You've got a meteoric rise of violence against immigrants and hate crimes in general, you've got an "inverted yield curve" in the economy, you've got the rest of the world turning on a dime regarding US relations...


[17-Aug-19 01:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh so that's what KAG stands for


[17-Aug-19 01:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I hate his policies but the fucker knows how to message


[17-Aug-19 01:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(to his followers at least)


[17-Aug-19 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he...really doesn't. Or didn't. A lot of that "message" originally came from Bannon


[17-Aug-19 01:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What I'm really nervous about is that he's sunk so low that he's currently already at his basement support


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of Trump's catch phrases and slogans are jsut parroted from other people


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And also that he'll try to run for a 3rd term, amendment be damned


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And his basement support is 42%


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact, probably one of the best things about Trump his his ability to parrot ideas so transparently that you can tell exactly where each idea du jour came from


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which is alarming, seeing that 42% of voters like how he's doing


[17-Aug-19 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and speaking of the constitution, his oft-stated stance that Article I gives him the power to do "whatever he wants"


[17-Aug-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really doesnt but no oen is willing to tell him this


[17-Aug-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
article one basically says the president can work with the legislative branch to create laws


[17-Aug-19 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That alone would, I'd think, be grounds for impeachment after threatening to overrule even the SCOTUS challenging him


[17-Aug-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but any laws require support of the legislative branch


[17-Aug-19 01:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically I don't think you can look at a single 48-hour period, let alone a week, of this man's presidency and not find something that could launch an impeachment investigation


[17-Aug-19 01:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And his supporters have turned a blind eye to that


[17-Aug-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for Barr acting as his human shield, he would have probably been brought to trial by now


[17-Aug-19 01:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
As has a large chunk of the GOP


[17-Aug-19 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that, and McConnell


[17-Aug-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Truump has surrounded himself with meat puppets who can be thrown under the bus the divert attention off himself


[17-Aug-19 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's basically a group of about 5 guys who are most directly involved with, to put it bluntly, an overt and ongoing campaign of obstruction of justice


[17-Aug-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump becoming president also ruined a few scams the trump family had going in new york because the name got too infamous to ignore


[17-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit will come out during impeachment proceedings


[17-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which are going to happen


[17-Aug-19 01:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
6 if you want to count Pelosi's recalcitrance towards immediate impeachment


[17-Aug-19 01:30 AM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Aug-19 01:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Who?


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tim apple head of apple


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Tim cook


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
appul


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What did he do this time


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:appul:


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump called him tim apple once and it;s been trending ever since


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh boy


[17-Aug-19 01:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ttump and Tim Apple


[17-Aug-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tim cook joked about it, but Trump had a freak out and tried to lie to save face when a joke would have saved face enough


[17-Aug-19 01:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How old is Trump


[17-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Aug-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
around 76 i think


[17-Aug-19 01:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I feel like he may actually be going senile at this point, similar to Biden


[17-Aug-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
73


[17-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
73


[17-Aug-19 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He was at that point a couple years ago tbh


[17-Aug-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his father died of alzheimers too i think so he may have that going for him eventually


[17-Aug-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, the man has been showing signs of dementia since day one


[17-Aug-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If not that exactly then certainly *some* kind of mental disorder


[17-Aug-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few different symptoms yeah


[17-Aug-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesnt really have a sense of humor, his only idea of humor is to punch down as people he thinks beneath himself


[17-Aug-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to make his ego feel better


[17-Aug-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he skips out on every presidential banquet


[17-Aug-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because roasting the rpesident is a time honored tradition at those


[17-Aug-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but not, apparently, every marriage taking place at a golf resort he's at


[17-Aug-19 01:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This presidency is just one huge ego trip for him


[17-Aug-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is not self aware, he isn;t self deprecating, and his ego is large enough to be punctured by even the smallest of criticism


[17-Aug-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump at his own wedding:

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[17-Aug-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back when he had a reality show, it took editors a miracle to make it coherent enough for broadcast as  the dimensia was evens ettign in at that point and he;d just go on long slurring rants


[17-Aug-19 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump at someone else's wedding:

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[17-Aug-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We're back in the gilded age now


[17-Aug-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for her being first lady i cant help but wonder if Trump would have had milania deported by now and jsut taken all her assets upon her exit


[17-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We didn't elect Gould or Morgan president.


[17-Aug-19 01:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What


[17-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
so you're saying that there's proof that trump supporters are literal cucks?


[17-Aug-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gilded Age robber barons @IAmADeliciousPotato


[17-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, there was a point where capitalism was truly unregulated


[17-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
back in the late 1800's and early 1900's


[17-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead we elected Teddy, a guy who beat up a guy in a bar who made fun of him for ordering coffee in a saloon


[17-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
nah, teddy was a fluke, he was never supposed to actually become president


[17-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Teddy talked about fake news though


[17-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
he was VP only as a concession to the labor unionists


[17-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
then his president got assassinated and teddy was uncontrollable by the capitalists


[17-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
which also made him massively popular, so he got re-elected


[17-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taft was more of a trust buster


[17-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he never wanted to be president, he wanted to be on the Supreme Court


[17-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
taft eventually started making concessions to the capitalists again though, so teddy ran third party


[17-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
which caused both taft and teddy to lose


[17-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why he was fat, he had an eating disorder


[17-Aug-19 01:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh I see


[17-Aug-19 01:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Still, hotly contested and insanely close elections, elections based more on personal attacks than policy, lots of swinging of the party in control

The only thing missing is high voter turnout


[17-Aug-19 01:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which is slated to change in the coming elections, I'm sure, based on the record turnout of 2018


[17-Aug-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is debatable, and also The republicans regardless of their guru beign dead are still going to try and gerrymander the shit out of everything


[17-Aug-19 01:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Like they also did back in the day


[17-Aug-19 01:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Fuck gerrymandering


[17-Aug-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Aug-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the rampant foreign meddling that republicans refuse to acknowledge ebcause it;s aiding thme and not democrats


[17-Aug-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if it was aiding democrats, they would be shuttign that shit down immediately


[17-Aug-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unpopular opinion: Democrats only won the House in 2018 because the California GOP is dead


[17-Aug-19 02:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why do you say that


[17-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A strong California GOP would have been enough to keep the House


[17-Aug-19 02:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, isn't the Cali GOP usually not that strong


[17-Aug-19 02:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Akin to the Dems in like Georgia


[17-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's lots of GOP voters in California


[17-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they're unlike national GOP voters


[17-Aug-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it doesn't mesh well with Trump era stuff so they just vote for a moderate Dem


[17-Aug-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This weaker Cali GOP ain't gonna change much in 2020 though


[17-Aug-19 02:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Since CAL is usually safely Dem


[17-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue Wall may get rebuilt


[17-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also AZ may go blue


[17-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue Wall wins for Trump were razor thin


[17-Aug-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Could you imagine if Texas flipped


[17-Aug-19 02:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's not out of the question


[17-Aug-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Indeed it is not


[17-Aug-19 02:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A lot of historically red districts are becoming purple


[17-Aug-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can you imagine a red state going for a more revolutionary red


[17-Aug-19 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>kentucky


[17-Aug-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Kentucky rediscovers the Industrial Union and uses it to reclaim all its politics, even fully unionizing white collar work in the One Big Union and ushering in an era of Syndicalism and a deeper, more terrifying shade of red.


[17-Aug-19 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Aug-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ketchup lobby, I knew they were the true evil of america!


[17-Aug-19 04:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-edits-speech-video-18945470

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Boris Johnson edits speech video to remove his first broken promise
There's a couple of important words missing from the new version of his Downing Street speech
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[17-Aug-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, are we seeing anything hinting that the Epstein stuff will hit Trump?


[17-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Acosta's gone, but like


[17-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Epstein and Trump were close, Acosta protected Epstein, Trump put in Acosta as Labor Secretary


[17-Aug-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty likely that Trump raped 13-year-olds.


[17-Aug-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
(as was claimed by one such alleged victim but who went silent when the election happened saying she'd been threatened if she pursued Trump and Epstein)


[17-Aug-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also note Trump had said Epstein had a similar taste in women to him but "on the young side"


[17-Aug-19 09:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There could be a high quality video documentary with 13 different cameras and mirrors and crystal clear audio released of Trump skullfucking a 13yo


[17-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would say "but her emails"


[17-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the GOP would all collectively walk into elevators while stating "I haven't seen that video, dunno what you're talking about"


[17-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I bet the party line would be like


[17-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And evangelical christians would ignore it happened and talk about how everyone makes mistakes but it's the message that matters


[17-Aug-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Hillary got away with treason so this is okay"


[17-Aug-19 09:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Why isn't the FBI investigating that painting of Clinton in a dress?"


[17-Aug-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a hint of "that 13yo was mexican, it was legal in her home country"


[17-Aug-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And "this was 5 whole years ago"


[17-Aug-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(5 years is actually the original statute of limitations on the sex traffikking stuff Epstein faced, but the statute of limitations was removed before those 5 were up)


[17-Aug-19 09:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"You know, Tom, this is ridiculous. It just makes me so mad, so mad to see these Hollywood 'celebs' attacking Trump over this. We've all read about what goes on in LA, we all know what those 'liberal elites' do in their New York penthouses, and for them to come after Trump now, before the dust has even settled? It's just disgraceful to see America come to this."


[17-Aug-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
"You know I bet if Harvey Weinstein won election, the liberal media would look the other way."


[17-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, it's sad that the Mueller report didn't get into this.


[17-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller report that said Trump raped teenagers would've been an absolute bombshell


[17-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead we're likely to get things so separated, so clustered


[17-Aug-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the GOP will be able to play it off and avoid having to even reject impeachment.


[17-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's entirely possible that, effectively, the American public will let you rape their children as long as they hear about it while you're also promising that they don't hav to follow laws they disagree with and at least a week after they find out you obstructed justice.


[17-Aug-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jerri-kelly-arkansas-woman-held-four-black-boots-fundraising-for-high-school-football-at-gunpoint-in-wynne-county/

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Four black teens were fundraising for their high school football t...
The boys, who were raising money for their school football team, told police that the woman cursed at them and threatened to shoot them if they moved
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[17-Aug-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
white woman held 4 black boys at gunpoint for going door to door trying to sell cards to raise funds for their high school's football team


[17-Aug-19 09:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That URL is wild


[17-Aug-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get the term "black boots" though


[17-Aug-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
idk if that's a typo or what


[17-Aug-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
the title from google news is "Jerri Kelly - Arkansas woman - held four black boots fundraising for high school football at gunpoint in Wynne County"


[17-Aug-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Best I can guess from urban dictionary results is it's from the term "boot camp" and means someone who's young and inexperienced.


[17-Aug-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably military writer.


[17-Aug-19 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then editor changed title as soon as it went out.


[17-Aug-19 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-state-rep-matt-shea-endorsed-training-children-to-fight-in-holy-war/

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Leaked emails show Washington state Rep. Matt Shea endorsed traini...
Newly leaked emails, first reported Wednesday, as well as a video on his public Facebook page, show the Spokane Valley Republican has had close ties with a group called Team Rugged that trained children, teens and men in their early...
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[17-Aug-19 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646

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China forcefully harvests organs from detainees, tribunal concludes
China's organ transplant trade is worth $1 billion a year, according to a tribunal. This story contains details some may find distressing.
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[17-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
this slipped through my radar somehow


[17-Aug-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>moved from general
Current era china is the absolute extreme of capitalism, child labor, animal torture, endangered animal poaching for "medicinal" scams, live marine animals stuck in key chains, prisons that harvest organs for cash, social credit that determines your place in society and how you get treated, a government willing to massacre it;s people to maintain control.  it's pretty much everything american capitalists wish for
i'm sure china has some very nice locations but it;s government is super fucked up


[17-Aug-19 04:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[17-Aug-19 04:34 PM] ononim#8141
US really be just slapping "Super Freedom America Patriotism Bald Eagle" on hyper dystopian police state laws to make people vote on them, huh

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[17-Aug-19 04:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Welcome to US law wording


[17-Aug-19 04:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Where the clean air act doesn't actually give us cleaner air


[17-Aug-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay lobbying


[17-Aug-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lawyer speak is an unholy abomination that is killing us slowly


[17-Aug-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
slapping "Freedom  aid" on laws usuallyd gets the conservative base hyped for it at the very least


[17-Aug-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other such mind games work on other people as well, it;s very frustrating...


[17-Aug-19 04:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Freedom-ade. Tastes like liberal tears, grape, and cyanide


[17-Aug-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
and lead


[17-Aug-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and gasoline


[17-Aug-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta throw in some nicotine for good measure


[17-Aug-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/420ad0daa2fd4ed29a91b7335b9c390e

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Signs of recession worry Trump ahead of 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is warning of an economic crash if he loses reelection, arguing that even voters who personally dislike him should base their ballots on the nation's...
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[17-Aug-19 05:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"quick if I lose I can blame the impending recession on the other guy"


[17-Aug-19 05:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And once again, proving that he has no idea how the economy works


[17-Aug-19 05:01 PM] illumnious#7938
good greif


[17-Aug-19 05:01 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's always a delay between fiscal/monetary policy and its effects


[17-Aug-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of his supporters dont either


[17-Aug-19 05:01 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If that recession comes it's yours bruh


[17-Aug-19 05:02 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Obama's recession was Bush's but the GOP wants desperately to pin it on Obama


[17-Aug-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much how the GOP runs


[17-Aug-19 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pennsylvania-shell-workers-only-paid-if-attended-trump-speech_n_5d576dd7e4b056fafd0c08db

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Shell Workers Had To Attend Trump Speech To Be Paid, Were Ordered ...
They were instructed: "No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance," according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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[17-Aug-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any issues they cause was totally that toher guy's fault


[17-Aug-19 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
boycott walmart, now is this


[17-Aug-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can thye sue shell over this?


[17-Aug-19 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
yes


[17-Aug-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, i hope they do


[17-Aug-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because fuck shell with a 20 ft heated pole


[17-Aug-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
keep in mind that market crash ≠ recession


[17-Aug-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
by all means we're likely already in a recession


[17-Aug-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
but there hasn't been much of a market crash to accompany that


[17-Aug-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
and in years past the market has crashed and no recession followed


[17-Aug-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anthony-scaramucci-donald-trump-prediction_n_5d57aeb8e4b0d8840ff38c79

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Scaramucci Predicts Exact Month Trump Will Abandon 2020 Race
The former White House communications director also turned to "Game of Thrones" to explain why Trump should be primaried.
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[17-Aug-19 05:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also keep in mind that Trump took credit for the economic boom that stemmed from Obama's policies


[17-Aug-19 05:11 PM] Litrojia#0612
TLDR: March 2020


[17-Aug-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
the paradox of thrift is one of those things I am feeling right now


[17-Aug-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
the thing about debt is that for better or for worse it makes the economy work


[17-Aug-19 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
but I have no incentive to take on debt because the market is too predatory


[17-Aug-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
debt works if properly regulated, but banks have lobbied so hard that it;s become a monstrosity that only gets worse isntead of better


[17-Aug-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
the banks aren't the problem


[17-Aug-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
amazingly


[17-Aug-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
it's everything else about our system that makes it so fucked


[17-Aug-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
if I had an unexpected medical emergency, it would probably wipe out my entire college savings fund


[17-Aug-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
that would then force me into debt


[17-Aug-19 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't feel comfortable taking on debt, especially not student loan debt, because the employment market is so hostile as well


[17-Aug-19 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
no wage, only spend, as they say


[17-Aug-19 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/zgYqLbW.jpg

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[17-Aug-19 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
every single part of the market is predatory and designed to ruthlessly exploit the poor


[17-Aug-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fear falling ill or breaking even so much as a finger because i'll likely wind up homeless


[17-Aug-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i have no insurance or medical coverage


[17-Aug-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant even make it to the interview phase of a job application


[17-Aug-19 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
and only the banks and credit card companies, and to a very limited extent average employers (they still have to abide by wage laws, if nothing else) have really been prevented from being so predatory


[17-Aug-19 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
the rest falls into the category of "technically illegal, but you're poor so you won't sue us"


[17-Aug-19 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
or "you agreed to this arbitration clause in the T&Cs you didn't read, so you can't sue us"


[17-Aug-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the horrendous lack of a deifinition for part time employment so companies can work you to just an hour under full time without having to pay you a full time wage or benefits


[17-Aug-19 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
they generally don't do that much anymore


[17-Aug-19 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
in the gig economy employees are referred to, legally, as  independent contractors


[17-Aug-19 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
the catch is that you don't get to negotiate the contract


[17-Aug-19 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
and there's almost always forced arbitration


[17-Aug-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, it got more predatory


[17-Aug-19 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
so I would think that if they were ever challenged in court, that it might not actually hold, because there's no consideration


[17-Aug-19 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
but you won't challenge them in court


[17-Aug-19 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
you're poor, and you can't afford a lawyer


[17-Aug-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it's somehow a wonder that no oen wants to work anymore under these conditions


[17-Aug-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i guess that's jsut the lazy, entitled millenial in me taliing


[17-Aug-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should be grateful to have a job while also beign homeless and unable to afford food


[17-Aug-19 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Small free sample of what white supremacist assholes believe in
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[17-Aug-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmm, yep, indeed, they are politically illiterate and excessively idealistic


[17-Aug-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>promotion of irredentism in the balkans


[17-Aug-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:faceclaw:


[17-Aug-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ir·re·den·tism
/ˌi(r)rəˈdenˌtizəm/
noun
a policy of advocating the restoration to a country of any territory formerly belonging to it.


[17-Aug-19 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"The Balkans should be a white paradise! That's why we should encourage the perpetual circular firing squad to continue!"


[17-Aug-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hitler did everythign right, it was those dirty mexijewslims who did the dirty wrongness


[17-Aug-19 06:10 PM] Mani#1404
I don't usually get into political discussions but, _can_ Trump buy Greenland? And for all the people who support it, why don't they care about how Greenlanders feel? Do they even have a say?


[17-Aug-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well considering denmark said this was trumps final sign of dimentia, probably not


[17-Aug-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially taking greenland as a territory of america would require a lot of legislative and executive work from denmark and in order to enter greenland you have to actually go into denmark and get special permission as well as get a plane from denmark into greenland


[17-Aug-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
denmark has no interest in handing greenland over to an egomaniac as well


[17-Aug-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's possible for greenland to be bought but as with past attempt's denmark says no


[17-Aug-19 06:28 PM] Mani#1404
Keep saying no Denmark


[17-Aug-19 06:29 PM] Mani#1404
I'm ashamed to be American at this point. Even if I find being 'proud' of a nationality a tad weird..


[17-Aug-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Truman wanted it for national security reasons, Trump likely wants it because golf course, resort, and drilling reasons


[17-Aug-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no pride in america


[17-Aug-19 06:30 PM] Mani#1404
I heard Greenland is beautiful. Of course a businessman wants to destroy it.


[17-Aug-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah there's a reason it;s only visitable with special permission


[17-Aug-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not a tourist state


[17-Aug-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are allowed to become residents, but they are not allowed to own land on greenland


[17-Aug-19 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hear norway and denmark are very nice places to live though


[17-Aug-19 06:35 PM] Mani#1404
My friend lives in Norway


[17-Aug-19 06:36 PM] Mani#1404
It seems nice..besides all the food they don't have :p


[17-Aug-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww


[17-Aug-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to emmigrate but the costs are phenomenal and i cant afford to leave america


[17-Aug-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
canada is nice, though it;s still on north america and i want tog et as far from the usa as possible


[17-Aug-19 06:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/windowjack1945/status/1161356874761101314?s=21

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@JMPeck69 @JAPayneMemphis @JohnCornyn This is what we see at Every Trump Rally. They Are ALL The Same https://t.co/LIHjdQ2jqR
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[17-Aug-19 06:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/paulleeticks/status/1162454949940224000?s=21

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Those pictures of the #TrumpRally last night with all the empty seats, were intentionally misleading - because it appears from this video it was a FULL house.

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[17-Aug-19 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Aug-19 06:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCzTwHP9ifY

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Stable Voices
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A Stable Genius Explains Gun Control
Following the recent mass shootings, the Stable Genius tackles the sensitive subject of gun control. Donald Trump's voice was synthesized using an AI model t...
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[17-Aug-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his public face has a smile that says "I want to eat your children with soem fries"


[17-Aug-19 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/diane_7a/status/1162171527552479232?s=21

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Those aren’t empty seats behind me! They’re INVISIBLE PEOPLE!!!” #TrumpRally
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[17-Aug-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my supporters have invented the invisibility cloak, they are the best most smartest people


[17-Aug-19 06:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Hue


[17-Aug-19 06:52 PM] illumnious#7938
||I don't think people would vote for him next year||


[17-Aug-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you would be surprised...


[17-Aug-19 06:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Good point


[17-Aug-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half of his voter base is stubborn people refusing to admit they were wrong


[17-Aug-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now granted, he will have far less voters thna in 2016


[17-Aug-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he is very good at parroting all the things his supporters fear in the world and uses it to his full advantage


[17-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as is the GOP way, keep em scared, keep em sheltered


[17-Aug-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-contractor-accenture-forced-counselors-to-disclose-sessions-2019-8

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Facebook content moderation firm forced on-site therapists to disc...
Facebook's contractor Accenture reportedly asked what happened during counseling sessions which were understood by all parties to be confidential.
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[17-Aug-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
If they knowingly and persistently violated the law they will get absolutely reamed in court on HIPAA violations


[17-Aug-19 07:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Workplace therepists" sounds like, "our work practices are terrifying and instead of fundamentally changing workplace culture and relationships we're just making it more complex and meaningless to protect the managerial class."


[17-Aug-19 07:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"But i want better wages to liv-"
"STFU, PIZZA PARTY"


[17-Aug-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is joking about calling off the 2020 election and serving a 3rd term during a speech to energy workers in PA that is not supposed to be a campaign event pic.twitter.com/EI9jZA1HaO

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 13, 2019


[17-Aug-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here's the staff notice for the shell trump visit

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[17-Aug-19 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah it's rhetoric like this that makes me highly doubtful of the Mooch's prediction


[17-Aug-19 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i dont see trump quitting, actually i see him trying to force the election to end early


[17-Aug-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably around march 2020


[17-Aug-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"fuck the primaries, there;s no election I am the rpesident that is the end"


[17-Aug-19 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So if I were the GRU what I'd do is hack the primaries themselves. Even though that looks bad in the short term 'cause the primaries are pretty much all Democratic targets it means that the general election can get postponed until an investigation - overseen by the AG - finally looks into whether or not it was hacked. All legislation regarding hacking should be spun to address, I dunno, voter fraud or something as a token measure of playing along. Trump's hailed as a hero defending our great nation from treason, 'cause someone in the US is there to be a Guccifer 3.0 fall guy


[17-Aug-19 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ron robinson, maybe


[17-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Mani#1404
In very eager to see how 2020 turns out


[17-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Mani#1404
Come on people, don't give him a second term.


[17-Aug-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buttery males!


[17-Aug-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that what russia might do, is not what trump would try. Trump will likely be like "An executive order! that solves everything, I'm a stable genious! why hasnt any one tried this before?"


[17-Aug-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
lol I haven't heard "buttery males" before


[17-Aug-19 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
speaking of buttery males I should check in on how the ron robinson conspiracy is shaping up


[17-Aug-19 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/VickerySec/status/1159930753892802560 oooooh 🍿

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The first undeniable proof of a GOP operative knowingly receiving email, from a Republican candidate's campaign, on the operative's email server physically hosted in Moscow (Russian Federation).
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[17-Aug-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
"undeniable"


[17-Aug-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
uh


[17-Aug-19 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it helps if you've been following this from the beginning but yeah Chris isn't exactly known for explaining his entire thought process in a single tweet


[17-Aug-19 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically, this email (from a service Ron created and advertised as "supoena-proof") shouldn't exist


[17-Aug-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
wth is "nsamail.us"


[17-Aug-19 10:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's Ron Robinson's website he created and advertised as being "supoena-proof"


[17-Aug-19 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
including mugshots of alleged satisfied customers including Mitch McConnell, Ben Carson (Robinson was in charge of the digital aspect of his campaign and made a website for a Carson SuperPAC, among other things) and other high-level GOP folks


[17-Aug-19 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in *2013*


[17-Aug-19 10:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ron is connected to a whole bunch of other sites like this, including "innoc.us" which is literally the exact same service, just with a tongue-in-cheek different frontend for people who didn't want to poke the NSA hornet's nest every time they sent an email


[17-Aug-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/nra-says-new-florida-law-would-take-away-rifles-10-year-old-little-girls-their-birthdays-1454841

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The chief NRA lobbyist for Florida said, "How do you tell a 10-year-old little girl who got a Ruger 10/22 with a pink stock for her birthday that her rifle is an assault weapon?"
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1520914/girl-shooting-gun.jpg


[17-Aug-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[17-Aug-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is gifting a rifle to a 10 year old?


[17-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I bet these are the same people saying that if an 18yo and a 14yo girl in high school shakk up, they both should face jailtime for like 10 years.


[17-Aug-19 10:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Speaking of his other sites, let's make quick mention again of the bizarre pullout menu on the website he created for people to use his nationbuilder services, which featured live updates of two cryptocurrency wallets and a screenshot of a linux terminal that raises a LOT of questions


[17-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
(actual case that happened in Florida, high school romance got noticed by parents of the younger one who hated lesbians, very aggressive prosecution)


[17-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, people say it's libertarians and they're just crazy, but they ain't


[17-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a hypocritical mess where they'll endorse prosecution against liberal stuff


[17-Aug-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
libertarians are the less crazy


[17-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then say the gov't shouldn't be involved with conservative stuff


[17-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly guns come up and it's freedom o clokk


[17-Aug-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
the government should totally be involved with restricting rights for GAYS


[17-Aug-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
and ABORTIONS


[17-Aug-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
but banning guns would never work


[17-Aug-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol I saw a conservative call the SRA antifa


[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/c75hixlzxef31.jpg

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[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But dem guns will just come in through teh mexijews!"


[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Never mind banning guns, I just want even a modicum of regulation


[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
To conservatives, there is no such thing.


[17-Aug-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's banned or not.


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like, one of their big deals.


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay let's ban cars then


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they want an in-group and out-group


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
fight the out, support the in


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
very, very firm lines get drawn


[17-Aug-19 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I happened to get this "useful" infographic from a pro-gun, MAGA-esque subreddit


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Comparing gun deaths to car deaths is actually wrong mostly because cars are like the most dangerous thing we hav on the planet.


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's oddly applicable in discussing the recent law in Tennessee, though


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rokkets are safer.


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated note


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ice-detention-center-comic1.png?fit=1000%2C1000

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[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy is nigh incomprehensible


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
how to not argue 101


[17-Aug-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
the goal is to not argue


[17-Aug-19 10:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know, the one where a criminal suit in a case of a car running over protesters waives the right of the protester to file a civil suit


[17-Aug-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So barricading ICE centers to prevent immigrants from being abused there is the same as...keeping them out to begin with?


[17-Aug-19 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
literally a chewbacca defense


[17-Aug-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans practically run on chewbacca defense


[17-Aug-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's most of their arguements


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something something Al Gore playing with his own slideshow, you can't explain that.


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss operates on a different strain


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His idea is to confuse


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make people genuinely try to guess what he's trying to say


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like that comic


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it has a purpose


[17-Aug-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying...protestors are the same as ICE because barricades?


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
confused readers will keep looking at your comic


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of getting angry at it


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's trying to say "I ate glue for breakfast, where are my crayons?"


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are quikk to anger


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, this is the goal I think


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
so you just muddy the issue so that they don't react badly


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a video about him


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
republicans don't operate on chewbacca


[17-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
About how he muddies issues and takes advantage of confusion and occasionally does a nonpolitical comment/thing that is universally agreed on


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's deeper than Chewbacca


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's right there in his name though


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the guy exists to troll


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
the primary defense is to never play defense, or if they do, move the goalposts when they're cornered


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
in general they don't have to play defense at all because everything stems from making ridiculous claims


[17-Aug-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
and never backing them up


[17-Aug-19 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
formally speaking you don't need to refute an argument that has not been supported by any evidence


[17-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Favorite thing about him


[17-Aug-19 10:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Case in point: I tried to discuss the TN protester law with someone, and no matter what it always came back around to a strawman about a car being surrounded by violent protesters and the driver being pulled from the car and beaten to death


[17-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He apparently thinks poop is just in your butt all the time


[17-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's obsessed with poop.


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
||Well if you stick your finger in there without cleaning it'll always taste like poop so he's not wrong, I guess he learned from experience||


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's really weird is that I don't think I've ever seen a comic by him talking about black people negatively


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
lmfao


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried to discuss the ice facebook group full of racists and someone told me it was just 800+ democrats trying to make republicans look bad


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's always Jews/women/leftists/Republicans that aren't far right enough


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
have you ever seen a stonetoss comic that involves anything other than sentient Mike Pence dandruff flakes?


[17-Aug-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
ah yes, the democrats, party of child abuse and rape jokes


[17-Aug-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
totally their thing


[17-Aug-19 10:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and antisemitism


[17-Aug-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
inb4 pizza


[17-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The most I saw was him making a comic critical of ads he thought were about race mixing vs selling a product


[17-Aug-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen enough of his comics


[17-Aug-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont tend to go looking for him


[17-Aug-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this is part of his thing


[17-Aug-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where he knows if he made fun of black people it would be no longer whistling


[17-Aug-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once you cross the thresh hold, there is no acting natural


[17-Aug-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/16/pacific-islands-will-survive-climate-crisis-because-they-can-pick-our-fruit-australias-deputy-pm-says

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Exclusive: Michael McCormack says island nations want Australia to shut down industry ‘so they can survive’
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[17-Aug-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“I also get a little bit annoyed when we have people in those sorts of countries pointing the finger at Australia and say we should be shutting down all our resources sector so that, you know, they will continue to survive,” he said.'


[17-Aug-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I guess it is true


[17-Aug-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“They’ll continue to survive because many of their workers come here and pick our fruit, pick our fruit grown with hard Australian enterprise and endeavour and we welcome them and we always will.'


[17-Aug-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
You have to have a criminal record to live in Australia


[17-Aug-19 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we are completely past the point of pretense


[17-Aug-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there is always poop somewhere in your colon, Its.


[17-Aug-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just not necessarily near the exit.


[17-Aug-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause digestion is very, very slow.


[17-Aug-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/eara14e7qmt21.jpg

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[17-Aug-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[17-Aug-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When you accidentally imply that gay fellatio is okay in your homophobic comic


[17-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/17/europe/welsh-anti-sex-toilets-scli-gbr-intl/index.html

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Welsh town to install anti-sex toilets that spray users with water
A Welsh seaside town plans to install public toilets with measures to prevent people having sex inside, including a squealing alarm, the doors shooting open, and a chilly spray of water.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190523120102-01-public-toilets-uk-stock-super-tease.jpg


[17-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause fukk the homeless and disabled, amirite?


[17-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nebbie no


[17-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's to protect the sheep


[17-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The plan is to _stop_ the fucking


[17-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>  The toilets have also been designed to prevent rough sleepers taking shelter inside: If a user remains in the toilet for too long, a warning message will play, while the lights and heating will switch off.


[17-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Let's just bury the homeless bit inside the article where everyone will overlook it


[17-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thewire.in/south-asia/taliban-kashmir-article-370-india-pakistan-peace

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Kashmir: Taliban Urges India, Pakistan to Refrain From Violence, U...
A statement issued by the fundamentalist group advocated for peace, saying it had gained "bitter experiences from war and conflict".
https://cdn.thewire.in/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/06135018/download-26-800x400.jpeg


[18-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.fo/uzNfy

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Four Million Indians Risk Being Denied Citizenship. Most Are Musli...
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[18-Aug-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`More than four million people in India, mostly Muslims, are at risk of being declared foreign migrants as the government pushes a hard-line Hindu nationalist agenda`


[18-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The stated purpose of the citizenship dragnet in Assam is to find undocumented immigrants from Bangladesh — a predominantly Muslim country to its south. Amit Shah, India’s powerful home minister, has repeatedly referred to those immigrants as “termites.’’`


[18-Aug-19 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could we just, you know, throw the BJP in jail


[18-Aug-19 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Modi can go fuck himself too


[18-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, India is shit


[18-Aug-19 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you India, very cool


[18-Aug-19 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who else but India, or Poland


[18-Aug-19 12:59 AM] ononim#8141
>More than four million people in India, mostly Muslims, are at risk of being declared foreign migrants as the government pushes a hard-line Hindu nationalist agenda


[18-Aug-19 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
Rohingya Genocide  2!

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[18-Aug-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/472a99b78f214e00b96f0b03776b1a28

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Bear spray, shields, metal poles seized at Portland protests
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Police arrested four people and seized metal poles, bear spray and other weapons Saturday as hundreds of far-right protesters and anti-fascist counter-demonstrators swarmed...
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[18-Aug-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still have no idea what thew portland protests are about, all i know is that they are escalating apparently


[18-Aug-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think this is more fallout from when Oregon's Republican party decided that if Dems were going to pass legislation using a supermajority, it would just walk out of the legislature


[18-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists are scared because there's a real chance that Democrats will prevent them from furthering a white ethnostate.


[18-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also up northwest there's a lot less racial mixing


[18-Aug-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like all white people from the gold rush and then some really recent asian immigration from after


[18-Aug-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
hardly any blakks or such


[18-Aug-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
magnet for white supremacists fleeing the south


[18-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's all being labeled as "antifa" somehow


[18-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't be surprised at political violence when one of the groups talks about Jews replacing them


[18-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least, the right is saying that all the violence is coming from the antifa side


[18-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:/


[18-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or that it *is* only the antifa side which makes even *less* sense


[18-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neonazis like the Proud Boys want violence


[18-Aug-19 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah, but there are no nazis, you see


[18-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why I called them neonazis because they are


[18-Aug-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvgZtdmyKlI

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Nazikeule im Dritten Reich
English subtitles are available! Hier abonnieren: http://bit.ly/BBB-auf-Youtube-folgen Folge uns auf Facebook: http://bit.ly/auf-facebook-folgen ____________...
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[18-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like how I call the counter protestors Communists


[18-Aug-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49343280

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Why I 'married' an anime character
Akihiko Kondo is one of a growing number of Japanese people turning their back on real-world romance.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/5248/production/_108346012_holdingmiku_getty976b.jpg


[18-Aug-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you haven't seen this sketch, you kinda need to


[18-Aug-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking weebs


[18-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shinzo Abe is screaming


[18-Aug-19 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wHaT cAn Be DoNe AbOuT JaPaN's DeClInInG bIrTh RaTe


[18-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
WORK HARDER SPEND LESS TIME WITH OTHERS HIDE YOUR FEELINGS FEEL BAD FOR YOURSELF


[18-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE AREN'T GOING OUT AND STARTING FAMILIES INSTEAD OF WORKING?


[18-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put Fleshlights in anime dolls, transplant into donors


[18-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Birthrate problem solved


[18-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reserved cultures are bad.


[18-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being unable to actually discuss issues means issues never get resolved.


[18-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those issues include people wanting to date.


[18-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically only works when girls are super subservient so you can then just pawn them off.


[18-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once everything's all individualist and sane, and nobody's going all shotgun wedding, nobody gets actually together.


[18-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE AREN'T GOING OUT AND STARTING FAMILIES INSTEAD OF WORKING?

I need money to start a family lmao

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[18-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a culture where you can actually express interest in people.


[18-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/denmark-offers-to-buy-us

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Denmark Offers to Buy U.S.
“We believe that by giving the U.S. an educational system and national health care, it could be transformed from a vast land mass into a great nation,” a spokesperson for Denmark said.
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[18-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you need to be helped into self-suffiency, this idea of pull up your own bootstraps is crazy.


[18-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan's got it worse, but the US will suffer severely when the population collapses and everyone's still living with their parents.


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, iirc nazi was considered derogatory anyway


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
boomers want to pretend everyone isn't living with their parents


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
but they are


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the collapse is coming


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
eatin' avocado toast and vaping weed


[18-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> You have 3 free articles left this month

This is a humor article New Yorker; kindly fuck off 🖕


[18-Aug-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
nazis hated being called nazi


[18-Aug-19 01:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Did you expect The New Yorker to *not* be elitist


[18-Aug-19 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
also I should note


[18-Aug-19 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
US boomers are a joke in comparison to Japanese boomers


[18-Aug-19 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
it's _so bad_ there


[18-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
2/3rds of 30 year olds in spain live with their parents


[18-Aug-19 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well yeah they had a Postwar Economic Miracle™🎶


[18-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they can't fucking afford to move out


[18-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOW DARE YOU KIDS THINK ABOUT SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE OR 18. STUDY HARDER.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING KIDS UNTIL 30?


[18-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are people with white collar, non-entry level jobs


[18-Aug-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
home ownership amoung young people is through the floor globally


[18-Aug-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A single paycheck just isn't enough for a place in the big cities, not if you want to save any money at all for the future or expenses


[18-Aug-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm 28 and living with my parent sbecause i cant afford to mvoe out

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[18-Aug-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and yeah more people live in the cities now


[18-Aug-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
where your options are (1) rent (2) fuck off


[18-Aug-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
suburbia is not gone yet, but it's not that relevant anymore


[18-Aug-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worse part is all the jobs are moving to cities where it;s impossible to afford a house/appartment so its making things worse


[18-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the neolib ideal


[18-Aug-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in a small farm town, the options here are abusive retail, farming, or trucker


[18-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
let everything aggregate to the cities


[18-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it furthers GDP growth and innovation


[18-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the expense of the countryside


[18-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism prefers clustering, even if it's less efficient as a whole.


[18-Aug-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and of course walmart plants suepr centers in all the famr towns because it's like weed killer for any business that sprouts up there


[18-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it drives up the mega corporations and they're what creates constant innovation of new products


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Linkedin needs a setting for "fuck off if your job is in X city"


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Particularly London


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck London


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They succeed, things look good, meanwhile the countryside rots.


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
L O N D O N


[18-Aug-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
N O I D
N O S A L E


[18-Aug-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
_picture of individually wrapped plastic utensils_


[18-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every time I hear people talk about rural independence I'm like


[18-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good luck growing insulin medicine


[18-Aug-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
i'd liek to talk to you about diabeetus


[18-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/17/us/grocery-clerk-convicted-killing-teen-beer-trnd/

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A black teen ran out with a $2 beer. Then a Tennessee store clerk ...
A jury found a grocery clerk guilty of killing a 17-year-old boy who ran out of the store with a beer he didn't pay for in Memphis, Tennessee, in a case that had sparked protests, authorities said.
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[18-Aug-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/diabetes-gif-4484736

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diabeetus intensifies
https://media.tenor.co/images/912e7e656a58e6a45b530b45d7a11cec/raw


[18-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He stopped saying diabeetus because people made fun of him


[18-Aug-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awww


[18-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out when you pull out a gun


[18-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
kill a teen for petty shoplifting


[18-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then just kinda, hope it all works out and don't tell the cops


[18-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you go to jail.


[18-Aug-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the actuall fuck


[18-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what the people advocating for "good guy with a gun" actually want.


[18-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't really asking for someone with a gun to shoot terrorists.


[18-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want every store clerk to carry heat.


[18-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that when blakk people shoplift they can be instantly executed.


[18-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do keep in mind, blakk good guys with guns get murdered by police.


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when blakk people start having a bunch of weapons, suddenly the NRA wants a ban.


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"every store clerk"


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns are just a proxy for race.


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not every store clerk


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the white ones.


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the blakk ones to be fired.


[18-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And replaced by white ones with guns.


[18-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember hearing a story of a guy who owned a gas station and he was being robbed at gunpoint


[18-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he was like "really" and they were like "fuck yes give us the money"


[18-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the clerk shot them dead and called the cops afterwards


[18-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cops basically said "yep that's what happens"


[18-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least that guy was at gunpoint and called the cops afterwards


[18-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Remind me never to set foot inside any retailer on American soil


[18-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Setting the gate alarm off in Europe: Embarrassing, I guess the cashier didn't disable the tracker on something


[18-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Setting the gate alarm off in the US: I should have left a will


[18-Aug-19 02:17 AM] Mani#1404
Is it lame for a 21 to be living with their parents?


[18-Aug-19 02:18 AM] Mani#1404
I live with my mom. I take a few classes at the state college every semester.


[18-Aug-19 02:18 AM] Mani#1404
This in response to the convo earlier.


[18-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Mani#1404
Also this is old news but I don't know how Walmart got away with taking vidya games off store shelves but still selling guns. It sounds like..something out of a Family Guy episode.


[18-Aug-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they took the ads down, they;re stills elling the games


[18-Aug-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the guns


[18-Aug-19 02:24 AM] Mani#1404
Oh, saw some pics of Walmart with empty cases.


[18-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Mani#1404
Except...Fifa.


[18-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Mani#1404
And anything else 'harmless'


[18-Aug-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe soem walmarts have stopped selling them


[18-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, dunno how centralized Walmart is


[18-Aug-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[18-Aug-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart is liek the TSA, they dont communicate between eachother


[18-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Mani#1404
Walmart is a trash store anyway..always unpleasant but I guess that's off-topic.


[18-Aug-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart is utter trash


[18-Aug-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they never have anything properly stocked


[18-Aug-19 02:27 AM] Mani#1404
And no one working the register so you have two open registers out howevever many and all the lines are a mile long


[18-Aug-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my walmart shut down 5 more registers to make room for yet more automation


[18-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Mani#1404
As much as America fetishizing 'hard work' it sure is eager to get rid of their employees


[18-Aug-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well employers fetishize it to make their workers feel worse about themselves for asking for raises and better treatment, "oh you arent working hard enough to have earned those, you need to do more"


[18-Aug-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a great excuse to treat your employees like shit


[18-Aug-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boomers also got promotions more often from employers so a lot of thme have this mind set that what happened for them back in their time works now adays even though it doesnt at all


[18-Aug-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of thme were becoming managers and such at younger ages like 21 or 26, which is not something companies do these days as most companies prefer an older manager now


[18-Aug-19 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> Is it lame for a 21 to be living with their parents?


[18-Aug-19 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[18-Aug-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
you're just getting by


[18-Aug-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of families these days are staying together longer to get by


[18-Aug-19 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kicking your kids out at 18 is gettign rarerthese days as the economy gets worse and families need to stick together to get by better


[18-Aug-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was stupid that being forced to leave the nest was ever a cultural sign of success in the first place


[18-Aug-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we arent birds, we are a community driven animal


[18-Aug-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the idea is to possess more household units than competing clans so you can outnumber them with land ownership.


[18-Aug-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people figured out they could just possess more powerful individual household units too and prevent anyone else from getting their own by forcing them to rely on those of the rich.


[18-Aug-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just stagnant wages


[18-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the home market is overwhelmingly tilted towards rich people right now


[18-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
only mansions are highly profitable


[18-Aug-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
we never really came back from the housing crash


[18-Aug-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[18-Aug-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are still tons of abandoned houses from real estate companies buying thme up in the 2008 housing crash and evicting the families


[18-Aug-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
banks jsut own those now with no real motive to sell them off to new people


[18-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and new housing projects for working class people jsut get bought out by real estate moguls because there's no law saying they can;t buy those up and raise the prices to double or triple


[18-Aug-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/PpoZp1o

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Finally
https://i.imgur.com/uKlRq5ph.jpg


[18-Aug-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
> At the age of 53. I finally bought my first house!!!! Took possession of it Today!


[18-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a strip mall near me built in like 2007


[18-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It never has reached full occupancy


[18-Aug-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They've been begging for it for 11+ years at this point


[18-Aug-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two separate grocery stores moved in and out


[18-Aug-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/16/751659703/north-korea-calls-off-further-talks-with-south-launches-more-projectiles

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North Korea Calls Off Further Talks With South, Launches More Proj...
Following a speech by South Korean President Moon Jae-in vowing to reunify the Koreas, Pyongyang said it would no longer pursue peace with Seoul.
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[18-Aug-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"projectiles" sounds like something the Trump WH would tell people to call "missiles" to make it sound less bad


[18-Aug-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna projectile 🤢

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[18-Aug-19 05:02 AM] Mikey#7286
And Trump is a hero of peace for patting the little fat dictator on the back and sucking his cock


[18-Aug-19 05:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Working on BBC logic. Projectiles are bullets, missiles, high explosive material. Missiles are bottles of water and stones. Oddly petrol bombs are still just petrol bombs. :shrugpony:


[18-Aug-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I'm poking the hornet's nest here but I'm wondering... with what's going down in Portland, do you think either Antifa or the Proud Boys are protected under the second amendment? If so, why? If not, why?


[18-Aug-19 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the answer's no, there are a couple more followup questions. Such as, if you think the answer is no in one case but not the other, what marks the difference? If the answer is no in both cases, does that mean the answer should also have been no for the Black Panthers, who were also labeled terrorists? Where does the right to bear arms end, and is it enforceable in any meaningful way? What implications does that have for anyone advocating for individual gun rights? That is, what do we define as a militia?


[18-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Neither should, neither are even remotely close to being a "well regulated" militia


[18-Aug-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
idk, from what I've seen, antifa's been pretty uniform in its property destruction


[18-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow https://www.wsj.com/articles/bad-reporting-took-down-alex-acosta-11563573749

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Opinion | Bad Reporting Took Down Alex Acosta
Honest accounts emerge to show that the 2007 Jeffrey Epstein plea deal was on the up-and-up.
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[18-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just gonna completely ignore how Acosta and Epstein's lawyers came to an agreement to **break the law on notifying victims of plea deals**


[18-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just amazing how partisan things are


[18-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy literally breaks the law to throw an extra bone to a guy going around using wealth to sex traffikk vulnerable teens, but since he worked for Trump, it was clearly DA LIBRAL MEDIA demonizing him and not his own badness.


[18-Aug-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
listen well obviously the law is wrong because he's such a good guy that what he did can't be illegal, he just got caught in a bad situation. Clearly.


[18-Aug-19 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A "well regulated militia" is now one person


[18-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm waiting for the day when strict constitutionalists realize that any, literally any restriction of the right to bare arms isn't allowed


[18-Aug-19 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no reason under thst interpretation to allow to ATF to exist.


[18-Aug-19 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't an American be allowed to own an RPG?


[18-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founders really got that part wrong.


[18-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The wording was mainly meant to create state militias


[18-Aug-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
early drafts of it had a clause for conscientious objection to serving in the military in the same damn sentence


[18-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't foresee a time when the idea of individual states using guns to make sure the federal gov't played ball wouldn't be a thing.


[18-Aug-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also didn't foresee the south being completely unreasonable to the point of troops being sent in.


[18-Aug-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they were thinking about federalism vs. anti-federalism but they just completely missed that that's not really the issue.


[18-Aug-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue was and always has been that people in power often come up with exclusionary rules


[18-Aug-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when the people can't do shit about that, it falls upon other people in power, which leads to power struggles.


[18-Aug-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping politicians accountable matters way more than which particular level of politicians deals with which particular issue.


[18-Aug-19 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They made the mistake of thinking that people are innately good and that some words on paper would be enough to remind them to be good


[18-Aug-19 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they weren't good themselves and nobody that followed was either, so, welp


[18-Aug-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/uhhdamn/status/1155309351143272448

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ive been thinking about it and ive realized it is in my financial best interest to pass away
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[18-Aug-19 09:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its kinda sad that we have to think like that tho


[18-Aug-19 09:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
not kind of


[18-Aug-19 09:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
it is sad


[18-Aug-19 09:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I cant save money worth shit


[18-Aug-19 09:44 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I was never tought in school about true faineance stuff they just us all down at a computer and gave us something was wayyy more complex and confusing to learn


[18-Aug-19 09:44 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the teacher couldnt even answer a question half of the time


[18-Aug-19 09:45 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they didnt even teach how to write a fucking check


[18-Aug-19 09:45 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but  my brother and sisters got to learn that


[18-Aug-19 09:45 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but ya know


[18-Aug-19 09:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the school system we have is fiiine


[18-Aug-19 09:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
just fiiine


[18-Aug-19 09:47 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i feel bad for the children that have to go through the same hell i did

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[18-Aug-19 09:47 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I cant even laugh at this meme


[18-Aug-19 09:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
tldr: fuck school and fuck the way things are with gov


[18-Aug-19 09:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I have to go and drink some beer now


[18-Aug-19 09:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait until you work 60h a week for the privilege of paying rent and utilities and taxes =]


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Life is awesome!


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats the best


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
then you dont have any money for yourself : D


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I totally love getting told every day that if I don't sleep 8h a day I'm literally killing myself


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thanks


[18-Aug-19 09:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and half of you're family is starving : D


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'll be sure to let my boss know that


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i like getting all of the you are depresses/anxious cuz of this on the new


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
*news


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
"hows how you can stop it"


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ummm


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
dont think it just works like that


[18-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sorry, can't do my 2h commute and 10h workday because that means I only get 4h of life a day if I don't want to literally commit suicide :)


[18-Aug-19 10:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
REEEE How dare u not be a slave


[18-Aug-19 10:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
work


[18-Aug-19 10:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
moar


[18-Aug-19 10:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
dis it


[18-Aug-19 10:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
no house for u


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I only let you have this house cuz you can work


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
now that you cant


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
fucka you


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and you're family


[18-Aug-19 10:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are all dead to me


[18-Aug-19 10:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
later on the news" family of 4 found dead after they were kicked out of there own house"


[18-Aug-19 10:03 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
house owner: I never knew this family never had anything to do with them only got bills from them, I seen they were out of food and didnt have clean clothes half the time heh what a shitty world we live in"


[18-Aug-19 10:04 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
also house owner: they were a very good Christian family very good


[18-Aug-19 01:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Speaking of depressing schools: I should post some pages from the rage shootings book I'm almost done with. U just got through the part of the book about school shootings and Columbine. Spoiler: all schools where shootings took place were and still are terrifying.


[18-Aug-19 01:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ooo id like to read that


[18-Aug-19 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
When the author gets to school shootings he even quotes some free online handbooks written for and maybe even by students to disrupt if not shoot up schools. At the end of the section he delves into the mindset the kids get into and how among the school shooting community there's even an underlying understanding of what makes them do it and adds a whole thing about that.


[18-Aug-19 02:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
He discusses how one of the things blame on Harris and Klebold for being Nazis, but then citing their personal journals and video dairies points out they were very anti-racism.


[18-Aug-19 02:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ooo wait


[18-Aug-19 02:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think I know that book


[18-Aug-19 02:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
whats the title


[18-Aug-19 02:45 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Aug-19 02:49 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats not the one I read


[18-Aug-19 02:49 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I know there was another


[18-Aug-19 02:49 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I read wayyy back in highschool


[18-Aug-19 02:50 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
if I could recover some memory for a few id look it up


[18-Aug-19 02:51 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
one of my friends couldnt read the book cuz he had the qualaties of a school shooter he fuckin did to


[18-Aug-19 02:51 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats why he was my "friend"


[18-Aug-19 02:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
fuck


[18-Aug-19 02:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
cant find it


[18-Aug-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://cphpost.dk/news/danes-laugh-off-trumps-reported-interest-in-acquiring-greenland.html

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The Copenhagen Post - Danish News in English
Former PM refers to news as a
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[18-Aug-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/corinne_perkins/status/1162806565109473280

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The scene at Steve King’s town hall today in Grundy Center, Iowa. Photo by Brenna Norman
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[18-Aug-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1a65bf55405a40ca8dedf9f8968c332d

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Trump wields sanctions hammer; experts wonder to what end
WASHINGTON (AP) — Call it the diplomacy of coercion. The Trump administration is aggressively pursuing economic sanctions as a primary foreign policy tool to an extent unseen in decades, or...
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[18-Aug-19 06:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a horse loose in a hospital, as john mulaney put it


[18-Aug-19 06:55 PM] illumnious#7938
How legalizing hemp accidentally sabotaged marijuana prosecutions https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/i-feel-lucky-real-how-legalizing-hemp-accidentally-helped-marijuana-n1043371

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‘I feel lucky, for real’: How legalizing hemp accidentally hel...
Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people accused of marijuana possession have seen their cases dismissed or put on hold thanks to new hemp laws.
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[18-Aug-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh neat, the law change had retroactive effects


[18-Aug-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good, that's stupid if marijuana was legalized but people who got arrested for possession of marijuana were still going to prison over it


[18-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the thing is


[18-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't legalize marijuana


[18-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they legalized hemp, for like, making textiles


[18-Aug-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
but all the state crime labs were designed with the idea that hemp = pot = illegal, no need to distinguish


[18-Aug-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So for just right now


[18-Aug-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically nobody anywhere can be prosecuted for having a little bag of weed.


[18-Aug-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because there's always a reasonable doubt that it's hemp which just needs an easy-to-get license.


[18-Aug-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reasonable law changes combined with unreasonable enforcement assumptions hav just blown apart unreasonable laws' enforcement.


[18-Aug-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if most states can't afford to upgrade their drug testing labs...


[18-Aug-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
this will be permanent.


[18-Aug-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they can afford it


[18-Aug-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
this creates a new legal weed argument: that enforcement isn't worth the extra cost to taxpayers.


[18-Aug-19 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE

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The Onion
https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE
After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early...
Sources say the screaming orb might be the only potential candidate that would tap into Republicans' deep-seated, seething fury after this election. Subscrib...
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[18-Aug-19 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Prophetic


[18-Aug-19 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
(Nov 2012)


[18-Aug-19 09:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Faggots Faggots Faggots Faggots


[18-Aug-19 09:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Orb instantly quadruples in size

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[18-Aug-19 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr1AT37LRyo

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[YTP] The Actual First 2019 Democratic Debate for President of Mexico
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[18-Aug-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49345912

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Obituary for an Icelandic glacier
A plaque placed on Sunday commemorates Okjokull glacier, which was officially declared dead in 2014.
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[18-Aug-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MapleOverture/status/1162898763192532993?s=19

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@BachSimon @CGTNOfficial @china @ChinaDaily @XHNews Well, I live in mainland China for 22 years and I have never got brainwashed. I have been using Twitter here for 4 years, yet don't get arrested.
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[18-Aug-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/qAwKW1Z

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Pahahaha!
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[18-Aug-19 10:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-lgbt/polands-kaczynski-condemns-gay-pride-marches-as-election-nears-idUSKCN1V80FD

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Poland's Kaczynski condemns gay pride marches as election nears
Poland must resist the "traveling theater" of gay pride marches, the l...
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[18-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who else but poland


[18-Aug-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Maxis_Albenheim/status/1163079355347742720

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https://twitter.com/Maxis_Albenheim/status/1163079355347742720
@BenjaminNorton Yeah, look at this fascist rudely blocking a Chinese armoured column at tianmen square.
Look how he disrupts the peace of the glorious chinese state by wanting, "democracy."
Everyone knows that human rights is a dog whistle for right wing politics.
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[19-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nightmare-as-egypt-aided-china-to-detain-uighurs/ar-AAFXkQd

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'Nightmare' as Egypt aided China to detain Uighurs
Abdulmalik Abdulaziz, an Uighur student, was arrested and handcuffed by Egyptian police and when they removed his blindfold he was surprised to see Chinese officials questioning him in custody. He was picked up in broad daylight with friends, and taken to a Cairo police stati...


[19-Aug-19 01:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's so sarcasm that when people all the other countries think Chinese government is perscuting Muslim and Minorities, while almost all the Han Chinese on the internet are cursing our government for "treating Muslim and minorities too well".


[19-Aug-19 01:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
One of the main focus is the university entrance examination. Uighur and Hui people can enter any university they want with 40 less score than other Han, also more university welfare and extra credits.


[19-Aug-19 02:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just imagine from now on, American government makes all black men be able to enter much better university with even lower fees


[19-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd have to travel back in time to say "from now on"


[19-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States#Implementation_in_universities

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Affirmative action in the United States
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[19-Aug-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes the US has been talking about this for decades


[19-Aug-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The West cares more that China puts them in camps


[19-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly the Uighur and Tibet should be independent


[19-Aug-19 02:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Honestly all the provinces in China should be independent


[19-Aug-19 02:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's not the choice of people, but the choice of history


[19-Aug-19 02:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Since the "Train Station Event" in Xinjiang, Chinese government has begun to keep watch over Xinjiang very closely.


[19-Aug-19 02:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The internet is overseen 24/7, police are everywhere, any dangerous things, even knifes and rat poison, are banned to be transported into Xinjiang


[19-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds almost as bad as Liverpool


[19-Aug-19 02:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This do works anyway... the terrorism attacking is getting less by years.


[19-Aug-19 02:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Years ago Xinjiang has hundreds of deaths every year in the terrorism attacks


[19-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
News in the west rarely covers that


[19-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't say if it's because it doesn't get out until days later, if at all


[19-Aug-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or if the editors just decide we won't, or shouldn't, care


[19-Aug-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pisses me off


[19-Aug-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Deathcount for an event outside of "the west" has to be ten times over what it'd have to be in "the west" for it to get coverage


[19-Aug-19 02:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You can get five hundred thousand yuan by reporting a person related to terrorism to the government.


[19-Aug-19 02:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Everyone dreams to get rich in a night... The condition of the one you reported? Who cares!


[19-Aug-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds eerily american


[19-Aug-19 02:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hey, it *was* America in the 50s


[19-Aug-19 02:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also the USSR during its purges


[19-Aug-19 02:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Not sure what happened in the 50s America


[19-Aug-19 02:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our history book only introduced the purges...


[19-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
McArthy happened


[19-Aug-19 02:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
About America, just the foundation, the black slave liberation, Roosevelt, Cold War...


[19-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Essentially anyone suspected of being communist was to be reported


[19-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of politicians and celebrities were reported and trialed as being "reds"


[19-Aug-19 02:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
...


[19-Aug-19 02:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our textbook never mentioned this


[19-Aug-19 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

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[19-Aug-19 02:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought this only happened in USSR, to "capitalists"


[19-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It lasted less than a decade, and I guess it doesn't get much recognition in textbooks outside the US because no one was executed or imprisoned for long over it


[19-Aug-19 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The public shaming, by the government itself, was however enough to ruin people's lives


[19-Aug-19 02:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway I won't learn the world history any longer... It really brought me headache in the high school


[19-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I loved history


[19-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I could get top marks just by listening or reading


[19-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus some of it was actually interesesting


[19-Aug-19 03:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In the university we only have modern Chinese history, only two classes per weeks.


[19-Aug-19 03:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I love math


[19-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McCarthy was an alcoholic who used this scare in an attempt to oust Eisenhower in 1956


[19-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lives were ruined


[19-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Treascair#7785
yeah, McCarthy got brought down HARD when he publically accused decorated military officers of being secretly communist


[19-Aug-19 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds like an annoying dude to deal with


[19-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Pinkie Pie#9129
HK is extraordinarily messy


[19-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Treascair#7785
it's where the quote of "Have you no sense of decency? At long last, have you no sense of decency?!" came from.


[19-Aug-19 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not gonna lie, Dwight Eisenhower reminds me a lot of Red Foreman from That 70's Show


[19-Aug-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eisenhower was one of the best presidents


[19-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He warned us about the MIC but we didn't listen


[19-Aug-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
my mom actually admitted that trump saying that violent video games cause mass shootings is bullshit


[19-Aug-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
I remember that was one of her biggest pet peeves like a decade ago


[19-Aug-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
the whole "violent video games cause mass shootings" shit


[19-Aug-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, crakks in her crazy worldview.


[19-Aug-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
speaking of Trump, apparently one of the (potential russian bots) he's retweeted a couple times actually made a pro-mueller tweet today - which Trump retweeted, evidently having read only the first line

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[19-Aug-19 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
guess he saw the campaign flag in the profile pic and assumed it was gonna bash on Mueller


[19-Aug-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention another one of today's tweets where the prez had trouble literally counting to four


[19-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.is/w1UZ6

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archived 19 Aug 2019 02:13:35 UTC


[19-Aug-19 09:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Aug-19 09:31 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[19-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Radiation monitoring sites in Russia had "network issues" just after the recent missile test failed


[19-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally unrelated, obvs


[19-Aug-19 09:32 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[19-Aug-19 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-future-new-york-address-725-president-barack-h-obama-ave-almost-300000-people-are-pushing-for-it-2019-08-15

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President Donald Trump, clearly no fan of Barack Obama, has spent much of his presidency trying to blow up his popular predecessor’s legacy. Now, hundreds of...
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[19-Aug-19 09:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[19-Aug-19 09:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://petitions.moveon.org/sign/rename-fifth-avenue-in

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Rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: "President Barack H. ...
I just signed a petition to New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and New York City Council: We request the stretch of Fifth Avenue between 56th and 57th Streets be renamed "President Barack H. Obama Avenue."  Any addresses on that stretch of Fifth Avenue should be changed accor...
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[19-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-bible-china-trade-war

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‘Bible tax’ no more: Trump exempts religious items from China ...
President Trump is exempting Bibles from upcoming tariff increase on Chinese goods after book publishers warned against a possible "Bible tax."
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[19-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a world we live in


[19-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate it


[19-Aug-19 09:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did


[19-Aug-19 09:54 AM] Mikey#7286
fuck religion


[19-Aug-19 09:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the petition is almost at 450k, i hope it happens just to juck with trump


[19-Aug-19 09:55 AM] Mikey#7286
same


[19-Aug-19 10:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm wandering what's the meaning of the existence of religions nowadays...


[19-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tax evasion


[19-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Too give masses hope that there is a heaven after they die


[19-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Knowing that when you die u die is really depressing


[19-Aug-19 10:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the poor, hope, fpor the rich: tax evasion


[19-Aug-19 10:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think most people are too busy working as to think about death


[19-Aug-19 10:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and for the extreme right: the ability to throw people under a bus while you flaunt cherry picked morals


[19-Aug-19 10:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If I got shot in the gut today my reaction would be "fuck, I don't have time to die, I've got shit to do"


[19-Aug-19 10:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
religion is a tool, it;s what you do with the tool that gives it meaning. and unfortunately a lot of people use it as a weaponized tool instead of as a construction tool


[19-Aug-19 10:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Saying there's a heaven after you die is like saying "you works for me for your whole life, and I'll pay you in your second life".


[19-Aug-19 10:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it;s a weird concept


[19-Aug-19 10:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I still find it ironic republicans pretend to care about Jesus or Christianity in general


[19-Aug-19 10:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When they're more in tune with some death cult out of D&D


[19-Aug-19 10:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff if jesus came back they would shun him as a liberal hippie socialist


[19-Aug-19 10:18 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
pity points


[19-Aug-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Aug-19 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
syrian lannister


[19-Aug-19 10:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then there are the idiots who think if they trash earth, god will just hand them a second one


[19-Aug-19 10:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's how that works, right?


[19-Aug-19 10:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Christians we here are really annoying... They do nothing but walks on the streets with a QR code and a religious picture in hand, begging for "holy donation".


[19-Aug-19 10:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god religious beggers


[19-Aug-19 10:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast the christians here looking for money sell baked goods


[19-Aug-19 10:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the oens at the walmart i worked at did


[19-Aug-19 10:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant speak for all of them


[19-Aug-19 10:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like God only save the ones who have spare money to do donations.


[19-Aug-19 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the oens in front of the wlamart i worked for were the cool type of christians who legit wanted to help people regardless of belief or not


[19-Aug-19 10:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they had good rum cake


[19-Aug-19 10:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There is a buddha temple near my city


[19-Aug-19 10:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't know what these monks usually do everyday... Every time when I'm traveling there, they are either using the mobile phones, or sitting there to make origami.


[19-Aug-19 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't really know what chinese budhist monks do either, most religions in america that aren;t christianity or splintered off it, usually keep to themselves in america


[19-Aug-19 10:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually for fear of extreme christians beating them up...


[19-Aug-19 10:41 AM] Treascair#7785
The muslims and buddhists I've spoken to have been the epitome of kindness.  Breath of fresh air, honestly.


[19-Aug-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1741954d978642a3805137daf45896dc

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China lashes out at Taiwan over Hong Kong asylum offer
HONG KONG (AP) — China lashed out at Taiwan on Monday over its offer of political asylum to participants in Hong Kong's pro-democracy protest movement, a day after hundreds of thousands of people...
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[19-Aug-19 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/cs8jc1/dev_team_crunch/exebcgo/>


[19-Aug-19 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
> Did 106 [hours] once.
> 
> Was exhausted for the two next weeks though. Since my usual work time is around 60h/week. (Yeah, I only have the Sunday off).


[19-Aug-19 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
> Y'all need unions.


[19-Aug-19 12:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
How do u ppl live like that


[19-Aug-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
iT wAs WoRsE iN tHe PaSt


[19-Aug-19 12:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It was,but we are in present now and working 10 hours for 6 days sounds crazy


[19-Aug-19 12:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
this dude only have like 2 hours per day to do stuff he wants


[19-Aug-19 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those 2 hours are probably spent napping


[19-Aug-19 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just so he can have energy for thenext 10 hours


[19-Aug-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-corrine-brown-guilty-fraud-scott-maxwell-20170512-story.html%3foutputType=amp

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Corrine Brown conviction about corruption, not race
Corrine Brown cried racism when she was indicted. The facts - and verdict - in her case showed otherwise
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[19-Aug-19 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tl;dr image

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[19-Aug-19 12:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Better luck next time


[19-Aug-19 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon how much you wanna bet that companies will end up branding random items as "religious" just to bypass the tariffs


[19-Aug-19 12:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"What do you mean? This is a *religious* vaccuum cleaner! It's supposed to be used in rituals to cleanse the holy premises of evil spirits!"


[19-Aug-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stamp a cross on it and call it a day!


[19-Aug-19 12:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Granted, Trump only exempted actual bibles from the tax (which is disappointing)


[19-Aug-19 12:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i kinda expect him to open up further exceptions to it


[19-Aug-19 12:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd be funny to see the trade war ending because of Trump learning that worsening commercial relations weakens the consumer industry


[19-Aug-19 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm surprised there hasnt been an infomercial for a product called the "bible belt"


[19-Aug-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it just opens up with a guy fumbling up a bible in church and managing to somehow throw it at the preacher's head, followed by the reveal of a bible that clips onto your belt and doesn;t at all solve the issue presented

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[19-Aug-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now you can turn any belt into a Bible Belt™ "


[19-Aug-19 01:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
http://www.american-buffoon.com/2019/04/23/god-confirms-tornadoes-are-his-punishment-on-the-bible-belt-for-incest-not-gay-marriage/

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God Confirms Tornadoes Are His Punishment On The Bible Belt For In...
God is really tired of natural disasters in the Bible Belt being blamed on two people of the same gender identity loving each other.
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[19-Aug-19 01:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What a headline


[19-Aug-19 01:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so basically If you plan a shooting all your gonna get is a slap on a wrist and jail time


[19-Aug-19 01:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hmm


[19-Aug-19 01:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
logical


[19-Aug-19 02:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.teletrader.com/turkey-condemns-attack-on-convoy-in-idlib/news/details/49189537?ts=1566219101544

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Turkey condemns attack on convoy in Idlib
Turkey's Defense Ministry strongly condemned the attack on its military convoy in Idlib province in Syria. "We condemn the attacks on our convoy as violation of the agreements between Russia ...
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[19-Aug-19 02:57 PM] ononim#8141
```Turkey's Defense Ministry strongly condemned the attack on its military convoy in Idlib province in Syria. "We condemn the attacks on our convoy as violation of the agreements between Russia and Turkey," it said on Monday.

The convoy that crossed into northwest Syria earlier today was heading near the town of Khan Sheikhoun when it was targeted by several airstrikes. The government in Damascus previously accused the convoy of helping insurgents in the region. ```


[19-Aug-19 03:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49395029

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Knife crime curfew plan for 12 year olds
The Home Office is to allow courts to impose restrictions on people police suspect carry weapons.
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[19-Aug-19 05:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Lets give adults some guns,im sure they would easily take out these thousands of 14 years old


[19-Aug-19 05:53 PM] Mani#1404
Will WW3 happen in our lifetimes and do you think that'll be exciting


[19-Aug-19 05:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe, and hell no


[19-Aug-19 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's possible


[19-Aug-19 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i hope it;s mroe of a fizzle where allt he nukes turn out to be duds entirely


[19-Aug-19 05:55 PM] Mani#1404
Okay yeah nukes being involved will make me wet myself


[19-Aug-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
world war 2 had almost no nukes until america got involved, and after that everyoen started devloping them, so in world war 3 the threat of nukes is global


[19-Aug-19 05:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
WW3 will likely be bombing eachothers civilian populations into submission and the safest place to be would be in the army. Just look at all the current conflicts that are ongoing.


[19-Aug-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing anyone it will likely be either russia, india, china, or america to start the fucking war


[19-Aug-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s in the near future anyway


[19-Aug-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north korea might attempt it but fail hard and be blown the fuck up


[19-Aug-19 06:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1W6lXkhsv8

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[YTP] The Actual Republican Debate
For those who did not watch the last GOP presidential debate, or for those of you that did that were awe-struck (or cringing throughout), I have done the lib...
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[19-Aug-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also calling it now, if trump does get a secodn term, russia is going to lose control of him as his narcissm gets worse. He wont fight them but he will do a lot more of the things they keep telling him not to do.


[19-Aug-19 06:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Mani no,everyone got nukes and everyone scared of nuclear winter,and yes it would be exciting but as i said pussies with nukes afraid to use em


[19-Aug-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except maybe Trump...


[19-Aug-19 06:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nah


[19-Aug-19 06:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they all pussies


[19-Aug-19 06:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is 3 nations that could use em:north korea obliviously,india and pakistan


[19-Aug-19 06:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but indo-pakistani conflict would be probably solved by china or by un


[19-Aug-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with the pussy theory is that Trump almsot laid seige to iran with the full fucking force of the military because they took down a single unmanned drone flying over their territory and it took tucker carlson and putin to actually stop him


[19-Aug-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesnt think things through, he has no concept of consiquences


[19-Aug-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would press the button first and make excuses later


[19-Aug-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if fox and friends egged him on


[19-Aug-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has also surrounded himself with hype men to hype him up on every decision he makes, so  his chicken hawk council woudl absolutely egg him on to use the nukes


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[19-Aug-19 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ac05c41fa6154c818b052efd9ce92869

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NYPD fires officer 5 years after Garner's chokehold death
NEW YORK (AP) — After five years of investigations and protests, the New York City Police Department on Monday fired an officer involved in the 2014 chokehold death of the black man whose dying...
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[19-Aug-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/51fce49eac4a4312b93968c7370f3430

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Top US CEOs rethink the meaning of shareholder value
The "shareholder comes first" has for years been the mantra of the Business Roundtable, a group that represents the most powerful CEOs in America and their thinking. A new principles on the...
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[19-Aug-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The “shareholder comes first” has for years been the mantra of the Business Roundtable, a group that represents the most powerful CEOs in America and their thinking.

A new principles on the role of a corporation released Monday implies a foundational shift, putting shareholders on more equal footing with others that have an interest in a corporation to some degree — a group that includes workers, suppliers, customers and, essentially, society at large.

“We know that many Americans are struggling. Too often hard work is not rewarded, and not enough is being done for workers to adjust to the rapid pace of change in the economy. If companies fail to recognize that the success of our system is dependent on inclusive long-term growth, many will raise legitimate questions about the role of large employers in our society,” the statement reads.


[19-Aug-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TATSAHJKRd8

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Bias In Medicine: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
John Oliver discusses the roles that gender and racial bias can play in medical treatment. Connect with Last Week Tonight online... Subscribe to the Last Wee...
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[19-Aug-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old news, but usefully condensed as usual.


[19-Aug-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(basically doctors are incredibly sexist and racist, the latter to the point that blakks die from insufficient treatment to a degree equal to a 747 full of them crashing every day)


[19-Aug-19 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) sounds like communist propaganda but ok


[19-Aug-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair trump spouts communist propaganda all the time

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[19-Aug-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
>to be fair trump spouts communist propaganda all the time


[19-Aug-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141

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[19-Aug-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans are red and often farm things, clearly the true sign of a communist loyalist


[19-Aug-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"make america great again" is just an euphemism for "socialism in one country"!


[19-Aug-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you add up the numbers 5,9, and 20 you get you get 34 which is the number of the hurmple, which stalin rode into battle against the martians


[19-Aug-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make america great again translates to "raise stalin from the dead, the one true lich shall rise again"


[19-Aug-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maga is a ressurection chant


[19-Aug-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans are communist necromancers


[19-Aug-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/70d5ff3b084f461982236bed4fc5aaa7

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Trump calls on Federal Reserve to cut interest rates
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is calling on the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates by at least a full percentage point "over a fairly short period of time," saying that such an...
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[19-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
3+4 is 7


[19-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*Which is one away from **8***


[19-Aug-19 09:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
3+4 is 7
**which multiplied by 2 is 14**


[19-Aug-19 09:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
***1488***


[19-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
***oh no***


[19-Aug-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, what have you done!


[19-Aug-19 09:58 PM] illumnious#7938
:derpwat:


[19-Aug-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
1488 added to itself is2978 which if you subtract 956 equals ***2020***


[19-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I think we're having to much fun with this :dab:


[19-Aug-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised back to the future or the delorean aren't dog whistles tbh


[19-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
For Republicans? They disagree with BttF's protagonists I think.


[19-Aug-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biff Tannen was just an entrepreneur etc.


[19-Aug-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, there are legit people who believe the Rebels in Star Wars were evil


[19-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the Rebels are very obviously hippies


[19-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They believe in diversity, equality, all that jazz


[19-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Empire is all a bunch of old white men


[19-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
with a rigid hierarchy.


[19-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Taking those conclusions from the movies alone is worrisome


[19-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least the EU got into some nuance, sometimes, for their to be an argument


[19-Aug-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives don't get equality


[19-Aug-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
they think there is supposed to be a hierarchy


[19-Aug-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
with rich white guys on the top and poor minorities on the bottom


[19-Aug-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lucas very much intended it to be a bit of social commentary in this regard.


[19-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yeah, it's pretty in your face, like most of SW


[19-Aug-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just kind of depressing that conservatives can literally identify with blatant evil and not see a problem.


[19-Aug-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Humanity has way too much of a tendency towards authoritarianism and social hierarchy.


[19-Aug-19 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/bwlAik0HyyE

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The Onion
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[20-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/StephenPunwasi/status/1163102553111957506

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🤣🤣🤣

Worst Fast & Furious movie ever. 

Four supercars waving Mainland China flags show up to pro-Hong Kong protest in Toronto. It's like a campy TV writer drafted up the scene. 

#cdnpoli #HongKongProtests  

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[20-Aug-19 12:49 AM] ononim#8141
These are People's Ferraris


[20-Aug-19 12:49 AM] ononim#8141
(yes I stole that joke what are you gonna do about it?)


[20-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing says "socialism" like 750k USD sports cars blocking protests in foreign cities


[20-Aug-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man the scariest thing to me are the Chinese nationals who will go to the West and be mouthpieces for the Party line


[20-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
worse even, Deng Xiaoping stans


[20-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or Xi stans


[20-Aug-19 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chinese socialism is such a complete oxymoron right now


[20-Aug-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was thinking about that Canadian college that had a Uighr come to speak and all of the Chinese students tried to stop it


[20-Aug-19 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Communist Revolutionary sentiment! But respect your elders first!"


[20-Aug-19 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
as i am used to saying, modern China is a far-right state with no special characteristics other than its extremely obvious hipocrisy


[20-Aug-19 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
I had a chinease classmate in school but he was pretty chill


[20-Aug-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
there was an article a few months ago about the ruling communist party cracking down on college students advocating for the actual ideals of communism


[20-Aug-19 01:06 AM] ononim#8141
I was even friemds with him


[20-Aug-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's all the proof you need that china isn't anywhere close to socialism


[20-Aug-19 01:06 AM] ononim#8141
Granted it was years ago and (high?) school in Russia is not University in North America


[20-Aug-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/world/asia/chinese-university-crackdown-students.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/world/asia/chinese-university-crackdown-students.html
Students Defiant as Chinese University Cracks Down on Young Communists
In a rare rebuke, Peking University students denounced officials for blocking a student-led campaign for workers’ rights that has embarrassed the government.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/12/29/world/29CHINA-MARXIST-print/29CHINA-MARXIST-facebookJumbo.jpg


[20-Aug-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
by "few", I mean 8


[20-Aug-19 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
>teach Maoism in unies


[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
>students: try to protect worker' rights


[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
CCP:


[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141

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[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/if-i-disappear-chinese-student-amid-crackdown-over-labour-activism-2043082

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"If I Disappear...": Chinese Student Amid Crackdown Over Labour Ac...
The video opens with the 21-year-old sociology student facing the camera. His voice quivers as he recounts his interrogation - his humiliation - for days at the hands of Beijing police.
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[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
> Over the past eight months, China's ruling party has gone to extraordinary lengths to shut down the small club of students at the country's top university. Peking University's young Marxists drew the government's ire after they campaigned for workers' rights and openly criticized social inequality and corruption in China.


[20-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
that one's from may 2019


[20-Aug-19 01:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah, this guy's post is very hot in China several months ago.


[20-Aug-19 01:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like, everywhere on our QQ and Weibo.


[20-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KClh_EiOzig

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Elon Musk And Andrew Yang Support UBI - Is America Ready?
Universal basic income (or UBI) is a key part of Andrew Yang's campaign for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. On Monday, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon...
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[20-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No.


[20-Aug-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/under-trump-arms-deal-high-tech-u-s-bombs-be-n1015346

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U.S. 'smart' bombs will be built in Saudi Arabia under Trump arms deal
Democrats in Congress say the administration should not hand the Saudis valuable weapons tech given the kingdom's conduct in Yemen and its human rights record.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_32/2524846/180809-trump-saudi-mc-1113_e9557b74dd89f3d4308bbe40441a6cf1.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[20-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait the fuck what


[20-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SpaceX can't hire foreigners for fear the tech will be stolen


[20-Aug-19 01:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is this a huge broccoli in Trump's hands?


[20-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But they want to build the highest tech weapons in the country that bred Al Qaeda?


[20-Aug-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
imagine


[20-Aug-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
saudi arabia with nukes


[20-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>implying they don't have them already


[20-Aug-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, if they do, it's another reason to be scared


[20-Aug-19 01:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Anyone notice how the BBC currency market overview presenters have changed how they present the numbers? They used to say what the pound is worth in other currency e.g. "The pound is worth 1 euro 7 cents" they changed it to say what the euro is worth in pence. A subtle change but it became obvious when the presenters clearly not used to saying it in this order kept fumbling over it.

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[20-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroy the pound.


[20-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Euro in UK


[20-Aug-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Why do people even eat dark chocolate


[20-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Treascair#7785
Because it's delicious


[20-Aug-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it tastes like shit


[20-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Treascair#7785
depends on the cacao content


[20-Aug-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
even with sugar it is incredibly bitter


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't stand sweet chocolate


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's also apparently more healthy


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Treascair#7785
like, 85% plus is more meant for baking than straight eating


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] ononim#8141
>dark chocolate


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] ononim#8141
>bitter


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
In terms of taste I like milk over dark


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I'm pretty sure dark has a health advantage, even if only slightly


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything not labeled pure and bitter may as well be a spoonful of sugar and butter


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] ononim#8141
Is this what bread what is mostly sugar do to your taste buds?


[20-Aug-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
my bread is mostly carbs and lard


[20-Aug-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean bread is in general mostly sugar so


[20-Aug-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Aug-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-environment-groups-warned-saying-climate-is-real-could-be-seen-as/

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Saying climate change is real could be seen as partisan activity d...
A pre-election chill has descended over some environment charities after Elections Canada warned them that discussing the dangers of climate change during the upcoming federal campaign could be deemed partisan activity
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[20-Aug-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/08/19/twitter-facebook-disinformation-hong-kong-1468587

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Twitter, Facebook suspend China-linked disinformation campaigns ta...
Twitter said in a blog post it has suspended 936 accounts originating in China
https://static.politico.com/13/2a/f8f3323b4fb3add2c09b4cb5f72a/20190819-hong-kong-protest-lasers-getty-773.jpg


[20-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1163603361423351808

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1163603361423351808
I promise not to do this to Greenland!
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[20-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tweet is real


[20-Aug-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know he will do it to em


[20-Aug-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how every notable Trump tweet has McAfee shitposting on it as the top reply


[20-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Litrojia#0612
first reply now is someone who's profile description is "Eternally Sarcastic Memesmith specializing in the creation of memes to support President Donald J. Trump. Content that I post was "Doctored" by me."

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[20-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Litrojia#0612
jesus that's cringe


[20-Aug-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
you just posted cringe bro


[20-Aug-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
delet or you lose subscriber


[20-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum

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Carpe Donktum🔹 (@CarpeDonktum)
Eternally Sarcastic Memesmith specializing in the creation of memes to support President Donald J. Trump. Content that I post was "Doctored" by me.🎥 👨‍⚕️⚕️
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[20-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Followers: 155,146


[20-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[20-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Litrojia#0612
>Maga City, Kekistan


[20-Aug-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Haha kekistan


[20-Aug-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Totally fresh meme


[20-Aug-19 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/613185271927930880/image0.png

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[20-Aug-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/trqrsc1sneh31.jpg

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[20-Aug-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK too, now


[20-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49393279

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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49393279
Johnson orders action to stop measles spread
A fall in uptake of the MMR vaccine means the UK has lost its measles-free status.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1350/production/_104544940_gettyimages-1066472858.jpg


[20-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In case you're wondering, yes, the comments are 90% about brexit


[20-Aug-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like they are for every article the BBC opens the comments section for


[20-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do people like Autism Speaks etc not point out the discrimination inherent in this


[20-Aug-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iirc one of the big autism charities isn't actually all that great, don't remember if it was this one or not


[20-Aug-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"You want a dead child over one with an easily manageable condition that barely affects them"


[20-Aug-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah they aren't


[20-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Autism Speaks being the one that wants to erase autism from existence.


[20-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I hate antivaxers for the autism thing


[20-Aug-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Like, you'd rather your child be dead than autistic?


[20-Aug-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Wow you really fucking hate autists then huh


[20-Aug-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Some of them act like autism is a crippling illness and an autistic child is worse than one with stage 4 cancer


[20-Aug-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah on the low end of the spectrum it's fucking annoying


[20-Aug-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
But that's not even that bad


[20-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.removeddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/cs81qs/charity_sets_up_24_hour_stream_to_send_care/>


[20-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[20-Aug-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
32.8% deleted


[20-Aug-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/cs81qs/charity_sets_up_24_hour_stream_to_send_care/>


[20-Aug-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
basically, all the bootlicker comments are getting downvoted but not deleted, and all the comments making a good point with positive scores are being deleted


[20-Aug-19 04:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
classicwow?


[20-Aug-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
world of warcraft, blizzard is releasing a remake/remaster of the original game released back in 2004


[20-Aug-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
without all the expansions


[20-Aug-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's launching next week, specifically


[20-Aug-19 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
byte, understand


[20-Aug-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[20-Aug-19 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not that they think autism is worse than their child dying as an infant, on a moral scale


[20-Aug-19 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's that it's more inconvenient to them to raise a child that isn't like a TV/movie "good kid" than it is for it to die early and retry


[20-Aug-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus what would the neighbors think? "The Hendersons' kid is... a bit weird" or "Oh my god, the poor Hendersons! Their poor baby was taken away so young, let's all coddle the poor innocent souls"


[20-Aug-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly it's better to be pitied but respected than to have your good family name sullied by a kid that doesn't do sportsball


[20-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Sportsball is overrated


[20-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God the Ion Fury controversy


[20-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's stupid considering how good the game is


[20-Aug-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people mad at two small things being removed


[20-Aug-19 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole entire absolute thing is stupid


[20-Aug-19 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess we should be happy we live in a time where _this_ is worth getting angry over


[20-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ion Maiden is still a better name


[20-Aug-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Iron Maiden owns the concept of an iron maiden


[20-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But Its, people may think a band of has beens living off royalties could be involved!


[20-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Think of the poor customer, confused at who they're supporting!


[20-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Mikey#7286
music bands are cocks when it comes to copyright


[20-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbf I think their lawyers did point to many, many people who thought it was an official Iron Maiden game


[20-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Think of the loss of revenue suffered by the band!


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Mikey#7286
also Ion Fury looks amazing and i'm definitely getting it, as well as Amid Evil on GoG at some point


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is amazing


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Support the devs and not election tourists


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I should make a GoG icon so I can append it to your name


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Mikey#7286
i wish Dusk didn't take so long to get a GoG release, otherwise i'd have gotten it there


[20-Aug-19 05:17 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time game purchases are alluded to you sort of make it a point to mention GoG


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Mikey#7286
oh :v


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not saying it's a bad thing


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean, i think it's the best storefront and i wish more publishers supported it


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have dozens of games from there


[20-Aug-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's a thing


[20-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[20-Aug-19 05:19 AM] Mikey#7286
you're right lol


[20-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Real talk though, Kerbal Space Program 2


[20-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Microsoft Flight Simulator coming back


[20-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately may get a 4k monitor just for the latter


[20-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
KSP 2's trailer had no gameplay footage.


[20-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Until it does, I'm treating it as No Man's Sky.


[20-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The release version.


[20-Aug-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get points for giving me a funny KSP-themed video with cool spaceships.


[20-Aug-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially not with slapped-on music.


[20-Aug-19 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be interesting to see how they handle it


[20-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UE4 is a _really_ powerful toolset, but it's not meant for the scale of something like KSP


[20-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna need a lot of instancing magic, or a lot of custom work


[20-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can just about guarantee the idea is gonna be like, custom scenarios and you don't really get to build much.


[20-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go to this particular landing zone, can't just go anywhere, etc.


[20-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's your ship, go do the thing.


[20-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it'll be like, ten times as pretty as the original so most people won't care.


[20-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hope not


[20-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Will completely shatter the entire point of the game with building your own rokkets.


[20-Aug-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, even Ubi is giving seamless open world solar systems with Beyond Good and Evil 2


[20-Aug-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though without construction and all that


[20-Aug-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Once someone puts something out on the market that has enough players, it's considered standard and minimum


[20-Aug-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just feel they're gonna try to mass-market it by dumbing down the game.


[20-Aug-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which necessitates removing a lot of the core mechanics.


[20-Aug-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(fortunately for most devs, people forget about Elite and Derek Smart)


[20-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trailer being this pretty, and coming out this soon after a major DLC that gave the playerbase exactly what it asked for, is suspicious.


[20-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've not watched it, tbh


[20-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When these conventions etc happen


[20-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wait until like a week after they end


[20-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trailer is ridiculously pretty, but it's hard to see like, the seams that construction would bring.


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And avoid the hype and dripfreed


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It suggests premade vehicles.


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's unlikely to be more info this soon.


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://starbasegame.com/

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Starbase is a voxel-based space simulation MMO with a fully destructible and infinitely expanding universe.


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was the very first trailer and it's just song and movie.


[20-Aug-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THAT is one I'm looking forwards to


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems to be all of Space Engineers and then a lot


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah the new Space Engineers.


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm mainly wanting to see something do combat right.


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Space Engineers is just too laggy and its destruction model is terrible.


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Combat will be wonky as fuck


[20-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
StarMade is...the same game it was 5  years ago but maybe even worse.


[20-Aug-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All I care about is that there's some sort of PvE goal so I can play with friends and do "something" other than "let's build a big ship/base, because... reasons"


[20-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Space Engineers was a whole lot of fun for a few months


[20-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But then we got to this point where we'd done everything we could do


[20-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And were just moving from rock to rock like parasites just to build things we didn't really care about


[20-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
StarMade  has the same problem but worse


[20-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the getgo, you can devour planets and make them into ships


[20-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
because...no reason


[20-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can fight other players, who hav ships 1000x your ship's size


[20-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
or you can just not.


[20-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and certain players figured out this new weapons system that just creams everything!


[20-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and every ship is a large twig with floating turrets...


[20-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dev kind of forget that you need to keep updating while you pursue a perfect system


[20-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the players that like it with these twigs say THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A META SOWHY BOTHER FIXING IT?


[20-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, um, yes, I'd just rather the meta be actually fun to fight in with not every ship being impossible to hit.


[20-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I will admit


[20-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I played the campaign but got the most fun from making whatever and using MechJeb


[20-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly that's more of a realistic simulation of space travel than everything but maybe landings of human craft being manual


[20-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least that's what I told myself


[20-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do every maneuver manual.


[20-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah those are relatively easy, just the burns


[20-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Having a timer helps


[20-Aug-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leads to it being very punishing to not design with a lot of extra margin and ease of use.


[20-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like to scold people who actually need SAS and to do anything during descent.


[20-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should just be able to hit spacebar and turn SAS off if you're returning to Kerbin.


[20-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise you designed it badly.


[20-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Squad definitely goes for the meme users who are even less gud than I am tho


[20-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah a landing stage doesn't need much, they must be bad


[20-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
TSP


[20-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
KSP2 is being made in unity


[20-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
not UE4


[20-Aug-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I feel KSP until recently was very harsh with the parts it gave you.


[20-Aug-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like only the MH DLC really somewhat balanced engines.


[20-Aug-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Wolfhound was ridiculous, but still)


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
also


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
i fully expect interstellar travel to be very high level stuff lol


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interstellar?


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
probably won't be able to boot up the game and go to another star system in an hour


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[20-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you talking about KSP 2?


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, no duh.


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You think they'll ever explain what happened on Kerbin story wise


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Mikey#7286
Jebediah better be playable again


[20-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Mikey#7286
or there will be riots


[20-Aug-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seeing KSP Space Shuttles just made me realize either how bad the physics in the game is or how bad the Space Shuttle design was


[20-Aug-19 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you know it couldn't survive a ditching?


[20-Aug-19 05:53 AM] Mikey#7286
well hopefully they've improved the physics


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Space Shuttle was terrible


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
the main reason KSP Space Shuttles are horrific actually is that the SAS doesn't work for them.


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well it was supposed to be one third of a program, not all of it


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Mikey#7286
i can't wait to see what Scott Manley comes up with


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blame the DoD


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual main engines changed their alignment during the flight


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
to always target CoM


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't do that in KSP.


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And now they have that spaceplane that stays up for two years


[20-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your engines are set


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
he's the guy i went to for tutorials first


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they gimbal based on deviation


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the vector engines also gimbal TOO MUCH


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means your space shuttle is constantly fighting its own engines


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the way to orbit.


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol, i haven't played since december


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
but i have 54 hours


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, hrm


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
i never got farther than minmus


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Mikey#7286
and uh


[20-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There was some game sequel announced today that moved to UE4, guess I got confused


[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
that was in freemode


[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like I said, I avoid really caring about game news during these events until the dust has settled


[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something I did some months ago https://imgur.com/gallery/Nhgh2XY

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(KSP 1.6-1.7) 3 Kerbals to Duna and Back
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[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
every time i try to do something big in career mode i mess up horribly


[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Mikey#7286
i think i tried a moon orbit and that was kinda sloppy


[20-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too many interviews with partial info fed to different sources until a fuller picture comes up


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
the game literally feels like rocket science to me at times


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to the Mun is easy


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
landing is a little difficult.


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah i did get there but again it was sloppy


[20-Aug-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've landed spaceplanes on the Mun.


[20-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Mikey#7286
i think i attempted a few landings but they weren't successful


[20-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
At some point I should go to Laythe and bakk.


[20-Aug-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, space shuttles in KSP require more features to work.


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You simply can't make one that flies accurately without mods.


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't help that the boosters aren't the right size.


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I did a replica shuttle that looked correct except the SRBs


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Complete with correct delta V for the OMS


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was painful.


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Litrojia#0612
>ksp


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1163519773344296960

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https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1163519773344296960
Even if it isn't a game I love the cinematic. Especially since we see a nuclear pulse propulsion system in there, the most kerbal propulsion system ever imagined. https://t.co/iOUGCtEDYa
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[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Litrojia#0612
>politics


[20-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Litrojia#0612
ok


[20-Aug-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah maybe this should be in #general-discussion


[20-Aug-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[20-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That Russia bit, oh man https://politics.theonion.com/democrat-party-moving-left-vs-remaining-moderate-1837300836

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Democrat Party: Moving Left Vs. Remaining Moderate
As the Democratic presidential primaries heat up and the party hopes to defeat President Trump in 2020, fierce debate has raged about whether it should stake out more left-wing political positions or remain moderate. The Onion breaks down what’s at stake in the debate over ...
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[20-Aug-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again acting like it isn't going to be a compromise ticket


[20-Aug-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll be Biden and whatever progressive can be aggressive enough to appeal to the Midwest.


[20-Aug-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though 2020 might present the first "don't need Ohio" in decades considering AZ is blueing


[20-Aug-19 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
juuuust making sure Its didn't eat the onion


[20-Aug-19 07:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
is the onion mainly jokes ? or can there be actual politics on it ?


[20-Aug-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is 100% satire


[20-Aug-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that said, sometimes satire strikes a little *too* close to the truth


[20-Aug-19 07:21 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah Ive seen some things from them in the past that felt real


[20-Aug-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but they'll never just straight up post a factually accurate, credible article intentionally


[20-Aug-19 07:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
for some reason I thought they did unless It was one of my news sites I thought of


[20-Aug-19 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Are you thinking of the Borowitz report, a satire column in an otherwise reputable news publication?


[20-Aug-19 07:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im super glad to know that Im not the only know my age to be looking at politics/ watch news ;u; and I never heard of that before O:


[20-Aug-19 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
search back in here, it's been linked a couple times recently


[20-Aug-19 07:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
imma google


[20-Aug-19 07:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and nope


[20-Aug-19 07:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
never saw that site before


[20-Aug-19 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't eat the Onion, just saying


[20-Aug-19 07:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ONIONS HAVE LAYERS !!!


[20-Aug-19 07:37 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just like ogres


[20-Aug-19 07:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and trump you can If we remove a layer he cracks/ gets bitchy


[20-Aug-19 07:40 AM] Torr#5078
:blep: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/satire/

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This is the complete list of satire sources as determined by Media Bias Fact Check. Satire is clearly defined and intended not intended to deceive.
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[20-Aug-19 09:00 AM] Treascair#7785
the issue lies in that someone will always say there's this bias or that, even on fact checking sites.  See:  Snopes, because it's owned by someone who's notably liberal.


[20-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Treascair#7785
me... I just want the unvarnished truth for once.


[20-Aug-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit <https://www.removeddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/cs81qs/charity_sets_up_24_hour_stream_to_send_care/>


[20-Aug-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's up to 75.1% deleted comments


[20-Aug-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, comments got locked <https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/cs81qs/charity_sets_up_24_hour_stream_to_send_care/>


[20-Aug-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
basically, people said that a stream to deliver care packages to US troops was political and should be deleted


[20-Aug-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
then there were the people who were saying it wasn't political because "it just wasn't"


[20-Aug-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
all of the people who were saying the post should be deleted for breaking the rules had their comments deleted


[20-Aug-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
while all the people who were saying it wasn't political because reasons were being downvoted but not deleted


[20-Aug-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
looks like they went and cleared out most stuff mentioning politics


[20-Aug-19 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
they left a few pro-soldier comments up though


[20-Aug-19 11:00 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-19/hong-kong-billionaires-tire-of-protests-as-they-lose-money/11426568

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Hong Kong's ultra-rich lose patience with protesters as their prof...
For months, Hong Kong's billionaires have remained silent on the protests, but as house prices fall and the market tanks, the city's elite are demanding that order be restored.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11427304-16x9-700x394.jpg


[20-Aug-19 11:01 AM] ononim#8141
```Now the city's ultra-rich are calling for the protests to end.

The net worth of the 10 wealthiest tycoons, who derive their fortune from Hong Kong-listed companies, has shed billions since the protests started in June, according to the Bloomberg Billionaire's Index.

Hong Kong's richest person, 91-year-old business magnate Li Ka-shing, has become the latest billionaire to join the chorus speaking out.

Mr Li, nicknamed 'Superman' in Hong Kong, took out full-page ads in most local newspapers, urging a halt to the unrest "in the name of love".

While careful not to take sides, the ad featured the Chinese word for "violence" with a red cross through it, flanked by slogans about loving China and loving Hong Kong.```


[20-Aug-19 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
rich people despise being slightly less rich, more at 11


[20-Aug-19 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ohthe horror, how else will they afford their... whatever it is wealthy chinese/hong kong people buy regularly


[20-Aug-19 11:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I wish more people my age would watch the news/ get engaged with stuff like this


[20-Aug-19 11:50 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its really informative to know


[20-Aug-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i read the news, i;d watch the news but tv news stations have devolved into talk shows


[20-Aug-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where no one can actually speak because they;re all trying to speak over eachother


[20-Aug-19 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s really weird to watch


[20-Aug-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9e62021bcde04e69aa2ffc2e70a60f8f

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Planned Parenthood leaves federal family planning program
NEW YORK (AP) — Planned Parenthood said Monday it's pulling out of the federal family planning program rather than abide by a new Trump administration rule prohibiting clinics from referring women...
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[20-Aug-19 12:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
Be sure to donate more to them if you already do


[20-Aug-19 12:20 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
im proud of springfield missouri planned parent hood


[20-Aug-19 12:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are trying to keep in buisness


[20-Aug-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope for the best for them


[20-Aug-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also that people protesting agaisnt them outside get hit in the face by a sledgehammer, but no one would do that, right?


[20-Aug-19 12:45 PM] Crow#5457
they should start a patreon


[20-Aug-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4ad2fadb147145b49eb7e343ceb4aa2b

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White House insists 'fundamentals' of US economy are strong
WASHINGTON (AP) — The "fundamentals" of the U.S. economy are solid, the White House asserted, invoking an ill-fated political declaration of a decade ago amid mounting concern that a recession...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/9fbb1496e35a467abe2cf411231f9371/3000.jpeg


[20-Aug-19 01:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Li Ka-shing will only make the condition worse.


[20-Aug-19 01:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Thanks to he's "donation to Hong Kong GDP", now more than a half Hong Kong teenagers can't afford a house.


[20-Aug-19 01:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now many university students in Hong Kong live together in rooms as big as a public toilet, just like living in a coffin.


[20-Aug-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let me tell you about love while fucking you over economically"


[20-Aug-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[20-Aug-19 01:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Under the monopoly of "four families", the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger and bigger, any teenager will live a poor life, unless he has a rich family.


[20-Aug-19 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically now there's going to be protesters out there just to spite him


[20-Aug-19 01:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk how these fucking capitalists turned the protesters all against Chinese mainland.


[20-Aug-19 01:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe by controlling the medias? Seems like most of the news medias in Hong Kong are on the protesters' side.


[20-Aug-19 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now i;m just kind of hoping these protests ruin the four families


[20-Aug-19 01:27 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's impossible.


[20-Aug-19 01:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Unless down the capitalists in a "social revolution" or sth.


[20-Aug-19 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ultimately the protests are for democracy for hong kong as a sovereign state, main land china is a bigger threat to that currently with their tanks on the border, I'm unsure how the foru families play intot his but they are likely in leagues with the chinese mainland


[20-Aug-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also unsure what the four families actuall businesses are but from the soudns of it, these protests have disrupted a good chunk of it for one of them to be speaking out


[20-Aug-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these protests have also likely disrupted international deals between them and other nations


[20-Aug-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely during that air port shut down a few days ago


[20-Aug-19 01:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The "four families" of Hong Kong is the four richest persons there, and they are all real estate agents.


[20-Aug-19 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it;s real estate


[20-Aug-19 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh these protests are making people not want to move into hong kong, they can't sell their hong kong properties


[20-Aug-19 01:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
However there isn't any single internet  technology company in Hong Kong


[20-Aug-19 01:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
America's biggest company is Google, works on Internet and all kinds of high tech; Chinese mainland's is Alibaba, on global trade and AI; but Hong Kong's four biggest companies is four real estate companies.


[20-Aug-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
real estate is a much dirtier scheme than internet, internet can influence a lot but real estate can drive people to homelessness just so they can resell your home to soemone with more money. This actually happened a lot in 2008 when the housing market crashed, banks and real estate agents bought up homes and evicted their residents so they could sell thme to wealthier people once the crash ended.


[20-Aug-19 01:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How do can Hong Kong even develop their economy all by sqeezing money from their own people?


[20-Aug-19 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can't and that makes things simple for the real estate moguls, the real estate moguls likely own foreign properties as well such as entire unused appartment complexes in big cities in america


[20-Aug-19 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
keeping things from properly devloping in hong kong means they can sell "luxury appartments" in hong kong for a premium without having to pay a lot for them


[20-Aug-19 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
real estate is a dirty fucked up market


[20-Aug-19 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next to pharmaceuticals its one of the most predatory as well


[20-Aug-19 01:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The Hong Kong government can't do anything because most of their incomes are from these monopolists. Millions of homeless teenagers? Sorry, we can't help.


[20-Aug-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[20-Aug-19 01:48 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So it's really strange that these protestors dare to fight against the Chinese government, but no one dare to say a "no" to the "four families", who actually take their money away.


[20-Aug-19 01:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong has really good social welfare. But the price of anything is high as fucked because they don't actually have "free market", the whole market is controlled by several persons.


[20-Aug-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
> Idk how these fucking capitalists turned the protesters all against Chinese mainland.


[20-Aug-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
it's not that the capitalists turned hong kong against china, it's that china will literally imprison and kill them for not licking their boots


[20-Aug-19 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
you do not speak out against the ruling party in china, no matter how brutal or disgusting their policies are


[20-Aug-19 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Imprison and kill who? Chinese mainland don't even have rights to seize our fugitives who escaped into Hong Kong.


[20-Aug-19 02:30 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Almost all the protestors that arrested before are now released, Chinese mainland can't do anything but "strongly condemn".


[20-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests

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1989 Tiananmen Square protests
The Tiananmen Square protests, commonly known in mainland China as the June Fourth Incident (Chinese: 六四事件, liùsì shìjiàn), were student-led demonstrations held in Tiananmen Square in Beijing during 1989. The popular national movement inspired by the Beijing prote...
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[20-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
there is nothing that china can't do


[20-Aug-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
as long as its within their borders


[20-Aug-19 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
there is nothing that china won't do within their borders in order to maintain the supremacy of the ruling party


[20-Aug-19 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
no matter the cost


[20-Aug-19 02:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So why do you think driving tank into Hong Kong has help on the supremacy of CPC?


[20-Aug-19 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
and china is making moves to annex hong kong, no matter how they claim there'll still be a "separation" between them


[20-Aug-19 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
because hong kong protests against the methods used by the CPC


[20-Aug-19 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
tanks are symbols of intimidation due to being immune to anything a civilian population can bring against them


[20-Aug-19 02:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are not stupid. Using army only make the situation worse.


[20-Aug-19 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Army doesn't need to enter


[20-Aug-19 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just a reminder


[20-Aug-19 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
tanks in actual combat are practically useless against any force with a robust air force, but even improvised explosives are mostly useless against tanks


[20-Aug-19 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
and the situation could get as bad as china blasting hong kong off the face of the planet, there's literally nothing the rest of the world is willing (or able) to do against a nuclear-capable nation without starting all sorts of major problems


[20-Aug-19 02:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Even if there's millions of protesters in Hong Kong, it's better than destroy it totally.


[20-Aug-19 02:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You think  CPC will care about those protesters so much? Not like in Beijing, protesters in Hong Kong can't even hurt a toe of CPC.


[20-Aug-19 02:40 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The worst result will be the whole Hong Kong government fucked up. But can these poor and homeless teens found another government themselves?


[20-Aug-19 02:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Economy is still the strongest weapon.


[20-Aug-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/384350705e1848d5a1fa3606d89b0ced

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Kashmir police say thousands detained in status-change sweep
SRINAGAR, India (AP) — Authorities say thousands of people, mostly young male protesters, have been arrested and detained in Indian-administered Kashmir amid an ongoing communications blackout and...
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[20-Aug-19 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/08/19/rel9a.-.democrats.2020.pdf


[20-Aug-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think Williamson is gonna make it, guys =[


[20-Aug-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw


[20-Aug-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
williamson for presidential speech writer 2020


[20-Aug-19 04:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Williamson Safire


[20-Aug-19 04:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marijuana Williamson


[20-Aug-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-bias/ex-republican-senator-facebook-has-significant-work-to-address-conservatives-concerns-idUSKCN1VA1I7

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Ex-Republican senator: Facebook has 'significant work' to address...
A year-long review by a former Republican U.S. senator concludes that Facebook I...
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[20-Aug-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Marijuana Pepsi


[20-Aug-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/19/752529425/brazils-amazon-rainforest-is-disappearing-under-president-jair-bolsonaro

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Brazil's Amazon Rainforest Is Disappearing Under President Jair Bo...
Deforestation in Brazil's Amazon is soaring under far-right President Jair Bolsonaro. It is even happening in a vast highly protected reserve named after a murdered environmentalist.
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[20-Aug-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOseRFrXIc

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Nine Inch Nails - The Warning
Buy ‘Bad Witch’ - the newest album by Nine Inch Nails on Amazon today! https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CV8R349/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=15121&creative=3...
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[20-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457923-scaramucci-assembling-team-of-former-cabinet-members-to-speak-out

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Scaramucci assembling team of former Cabinet members to speak out ...
Former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci said on Monday that he’s assembling a team of former Cabinet members to speak out against President Trump in an effort to find a Republican challenger to
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scaramucci_071517getty_0.jpg


[20-Aug-19 08:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/afghanistan-wedding-hall-suicide-bombing-death-toll

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Afghanistan wedding hall suicide bombing leaves at least 63 dead, ...
At least 63 people were killed and nearly 200 others were wounded by a suicide bomber at a wedding hall in Afghanistan on Sunday, officials said.
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[20-Aug-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
KSP-related sidenote


[20-Aug-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Scott Manley pointed out that in the non-gameplay trailer


[20-Aug-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of the drives looks like an Epstein drive from The Expanse


[20-Aug-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
What a coincidentally-bad timing.


[20-Aug-19 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
I am sorry a WHAT drive from where


[20-Aug-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Epstein_Drive

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Epstein Drive
The Epstein Drive is a modified fusion drive invented by Solomon Epstein around 130 BXT. It enabled humanity to travel beyond Earth and the inner planets, and colonize the Asteroid Belt and outer...
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[20-Aug-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
what is Expanse


[20-Aug-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The thing that expands ur dong


[20-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hard sci-fi involving lots of shooting of big spaceships


[20-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Humany colonizing every asteroid in the solar system etc.


[20-Aug-19 09:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/germany-economy-europe-global-recession-andy-brenner

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Europe in crisis mode, Germany's in trouble: Andy Brenner
The health of Europe's largest economy is in dire straits as Germany teeters on the edge of a recession.
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2018/08/0/0/EU-Flags-Reuters.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[20-Aug-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh Hasbro phasing out all plastic in packaging


[20-Aug-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Transformers fans are mad


[20-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
get rekt


[20-Aug-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
>Transformers fans are mad


[20-Aug-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
?


[20-Aug-19 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
why


[20-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard to collect a paper box? Can't make it as flashy? No clue


[20-Aug-19 10:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Cardboard is more susceptible to the elements than plastic is. If you ever seen really old cardboard it warps and can easily discolour. Collector also like their original packaging and cardboard is easily faked. Another point is they can't see through cardboard to look at the toy.


[20-Aug-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the reasons you want a material for collection are the same reasons it's terrible for the environment.


[20-Aug-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biodegradable pakkaging means the end of collecting oodles of boxes for decades.


[20-Aug-19 10:45 PM] ononim#8141
why do people collect BOXES


[20-Aug-19 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
I thought cartoon gag of nerd getting shiny new thing, only to throw away its content and place the package in the super secure pedestal was just a gag


[20-Aug-19 10:47 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
collectors collecting sealed things isn't like a new or weird concept...


[20-Aug-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk collectors.


[20-Aug-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Environment comes first.


[20-Aug-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Destroy the culture of permanence in objects that has had us ruining the planet.


[20-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sidenote, lots of sci fi involves ancient societies that left stuff that never degrades


[20-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
what if the precursors were actually just really negligent towards the environment by doing so?


[20-Aug-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[20-Aug-19 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
A super portal hub or something like that is not a wrap for a snack


[20-Aug-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
So it amkes sense they are build to last


[20-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but usually you find something mundane first.


[20-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh here's a small town, perfectly preserved, etc.


[20-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And like even their guns don't break down over time.


[20-Aug-19 11:01 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
>fuck collectors
okay i'll just go die then


[20-Aug-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[20-Aug-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
I would like my home to not just break down too


[20-Aug-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
@WiFiWitch I thought you were horny :V


[20-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
>>619229


[20-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[20-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will eventually biodegrade inside there.


[20-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'll hav terrible shits when that happens


[20-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sound good, @WiFiWitch?


[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Says the person who helps head a discord. dedicated to a show that promotes the collection of plastic toys

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[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Um


[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Collect the toys, and don't throw them out, not the boxes.


[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure not a big fraction here gives a fuck about toys


[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] ononim#8141
also


[20-Aug-19 11:04 PM] ononim#8141
The discussion started because hasbro stoped using plastic for PACKAGES


[20-Aug-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
at least this is what I got from it


[20-Aug-19 11:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yes but then the discussion turned to bashing collectors


[20-Aug-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
Also


[20-Aug-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
>light theme


[20-Aug-19 11:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the value of the toy is lessened if taken out of its original packaging


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Toys were not made to be looked at.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were made to be played with.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
Please don't bash collectors or make misconceptions about them.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now put it up my butt, darling.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yes but not all play with their toys.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
>the value of the toy is lessened if taken out of its original packaging


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
some collect them. just like comics or video games or movies.


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
Do you want a toy


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
or "value"


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
like


[20-Aug-19 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
I am not neb


[20-Aug-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim Marx must be rolling in his grave


[20-Aug-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
I don't really see anything that bad with having a collection


[20-Aug-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
but like


[20-Aug-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
"oh no I took the thing from it's fucking package or better yet, there's a little tear on the package, I guess the actual thing is ruined"


[20-Aug-19 11:10 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
collectors don't act like that, literally everyone is different but few care that much


[20-Aug-19 11:10 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
can we just start  acting like fucking collectors are the scourge of the earth. if you don't understand it


[20-Aug-19 11:10 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
then shut the fuck up


[20-Aug-19 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No


[20-Aug-19 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
COLLECTOR GENOCIDE NOW


[20-Aug-19 11:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if the product is in mint condition. (which means both the item and the packaging that holds it.) it is seen as more valuable and more sought after.  Even if you weren't reselling it. Someone that collects an item would probably prefer as little damage or blemish as possible when viewing it or showing it to friends.


[20-Aug-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism was a mistake.


[20-Aug-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
#freethemintconditions


[20-Aug-19 11:12 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
again, most collectors that just like things don't care about monetary value


[20-Aug-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
The idea that things can hold "value" (be that financial or sentimental) but perform no function is honestly fairly appalling


[20-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i agree most of the dedicated collectors don't care about the value. But they still place a personal value in whatever it is they seek


[20-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its not hard to understand


[20-Aug-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
why are talking about toy collecting again


[20-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Collect boxes by putting them in really nice compost piles.


[20-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because Nebbie hates collectors for some reason


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
Okay I just wait out


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll agree that our ways of having fun and playing should be more sustainable


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
Because everyone wants to make my life a living hell because the few things I enjoy are bad and evil and wrong and I'm destroying the planet and I don't fucking give a goddamn shit. Go back to bitching about actual politics


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolt


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everything is politics


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
Everyone shut the fuck up


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even your request there


[20-Aug-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that the interests of collectors to preserve things result in the non-collectors ditching some 500-year-life plastic crap en masse.


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] ononim#8141
Let me post bolitical shitposting


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] ononim#8141
thanks


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1163802654981677056

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Twitter


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also being evil and wrong and contributing to the planet's ruin is like, actual politics.


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the entire point of politics.


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some people made mistakes a hundred years ago and our actions today are making it worse.


[20-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And we can change our actions to help fix things.


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it may mean things we like need to change or die.


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
again may I remind you that Hasbro would not be around if not the collection of toys market.


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reason for "fukk collectors"


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
I hope I fucking die before this topic comes up again


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Artificial interest in the preservation of pakkaging must come behind preventing environmental ruin.


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the world has survived worse


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
Why don't you focus on the big companies instead of individuals that do nothing wrong


[20-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should stop trying to kill it.


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] ononim#8141
I can't believe spicy twitter take on democratic candidates wasn't enough


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what this is about


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro, the big company, has made a decision


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
collectors are mad


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point is that they should not be listened to, the decision should stay.


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
No it's about treating collectors like human scum and then degrading them


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The companies and capitalism as an ideology incite the people into a consumer culture that's contributing to the destruction of ohr environment


[20-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You take things too personally.


[20-Aug-19 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Collectors aren't scum, the action of collection is


[20-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is the interest the collectors hav that they've expressed is insufficient to justify the environmental ruin.


[20-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
`"Fukk ____"` means `"don't listen to what ___ is shouting about this"`


[20-Aug-19 11:19 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
Then go toss out all of your own shit that isn't environmentally friendly. Also I saw MLP collectors that praised this concept, and some that were just neutral. It's very one sided to assume that it's like a big negative reaction in the first place


[20-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally we would hav some kind of pakkaging where you like, expose it to a substance and it instantly biodegrades.


[20-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
But we don't hav that


[20-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
so a lot of collectors, apparently of Transformers, are going to be unhappy.


[20-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
and oh well.


[20-Aug-19 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
okay, second try


[20-Aug-19 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/1163802654981677056

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[20-Aug-19 11:24 PM] ononim#8141

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[20-Aug-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, @WiFiWitch, nebbie didn't say "fuck collectors" as in "collectors are bad and shouldn't exist", but that "collectors don't get to whine about environment-saving decisions because it makes their new collectibles slightly less valuable"


[20-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
basically, psker completely misrepresented what nebbie said in order to provoke a reaction


[20-Aug-19 11:28 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
would you actually do some damn research before you all act like it was a collective consensus. I said that I saw MLP collectors react positive and neutral to this information. i have no idea why MLP fans would only listen to transformers fans.


[20-Aug-19 11:28 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
get the full picture before you make claims


[20-Aug-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
what the hell are you talking about?


[20-Aug-19 11:28 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
the same thing you are


[20-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
My entire point is any concerns any of them hav are trumped by the environmental problem regardless of how many or how intensely any of them actually responded.


[20-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It...doesn't matter if all or none of them said anything.


[20-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing that matters is we remember that environmental concerns > collector issues from making it harder to preserve boxes.


[20-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
what you just said had absolutely nothing to do with the clarification I was making lol


[20-Aug-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
I never said anything was a collective consensus


[20-Aug-19 11:30 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
No it was as I was adding info to it


[20-Aug-19 11:30 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
it was exactly related


[20-Aug-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, nebbie wasn't saying "fuck all collectors in general" only "fuck collectors whining about their collections not being perfectly preserved for centuries"


[20-Aug-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
since that was, you know, the topic


[20-Aug-19 11:33 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
which no one actually does anyway as that's a stereotype and no one should gauge the opinions of like three dumbasses as like some big collective


[20-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I did not misrepresent his statement to provoke a reaction. I merely reacted to his statement in the way I perceived his statement was being directed.


[20-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
and it was @Itsthinking who claimed that transformers collectors are mad


[20-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
not sure where that came from though


[20-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
since its has a tendency to post about stuff he reads without linking sources lol


[20-Aug-19 11:34 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
well then he's generalizing, or transformers collectors are really stupid compared to MLP collectors


[20-Aug-19 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
I found the thing about hasbro phasing out plastic pretty easily, but having trouble finding anything about transformers collectors being mad


[20-Aug-19 11:36 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
probably because few actually are. he likely saw one person and then generalized all transformers fans and then eventually it turned into generalizing all collectors


[20-Aug-19 11:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
^


[20-Aug-19 11:37 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
the generalizing and stereotyping were what made me mad


[20-Aug-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
and, given the context that "collectors are mad", saying "fuck collectors" is more logically directed at "collectors who are mad" and not at collectors in general, though that could've been written out more explicitly


[20-Aug-19 11:38 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
it was worded absolutely terribly and had no reason to be


[20-Aug-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general I don't like to write out something akin to "If any people are raising this particular issue then they should not be listened to because it is petty in comparison to the problem being solved."


[20-Aug-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to take things in the worst possible way.


[20-Aug-19 11:39 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
and everyone that jumped on the bandwagon and stereotypes shouldn't have either


[20-Aug-19 11:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so... you rather make a vague blanket statement as opposed to explaining your opinion with a little more nuance.


[20-Aug-19 11:40 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
my issue was that other people took it fully literally. i only got upset when others started to spout out stereotypes that were unrelated to the topic at hand


[20-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally, yes, because I know people like you won't care even if I put the nuance, and you'll find some way to twist it anyways.


[20-Aug-19 11:40 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
and were ultimately literally useless and not related


[20-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
people like me?


[20-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not going to play defense.


[20-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
dude i just share the news that i find interesting


[20-Aug-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suuuuuure


[20-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
And I have never twisted your words before.


[20-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was just looking at TFW2005 comments


[20-Aug-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry


[20-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some were complaining about the complainers too


[20-Aug-19 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't see anyone bashing on collectors when I was scrolling down besides some shitposty trolling


[20-Aug-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
I'm looking through the posts, am I missing something? I'm not seeing everyone bashing collectors specifically, only general statements about the topic (like objects with no use holding great monetary value being kinda dumb)


[20-Aug-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
both onon and nebbie said that collecting toys was fine, just keeping them in their original packaging so that they never degrade for centuries after you die is dumb


[20-Aug-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
but I'm not reading into any kind of massive "bash collectors" circlejerk echo chamber


[20-Aug-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
at most, just slightly negative comments about some of the broader issues that created the modern collector's mentality that everything has to be in the undamaged, original packaging


[20-Aug-19 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
(collectors have been a thing for millennia)


[20-Aug-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You and LB read things very differently, which is why I generally tell her to stop taking things personally.


[20-Aug-19 11:50 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
which is, yet again, a stereotype, and not very common, at least not in the places I frequent


[20-Aug-19 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
hell, I'd wager that even prehistoric tribes from tens of thousands of years ago had people collecting things


[20-Aug-19 11:50 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
i have yet to see a real person who cares all that much about pristine packaging


[20-Aug-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
I know my mom has a few wrapped collector's edition star trek ship models that she bought with the intent of selling a few decades down the line when they would have more value


[20-Aug-19 11:51 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
those aren't collectors. those are people who want money


[20-Aug-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
but they only have value because collectors want them


[20-Aug-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
and they're rare


[20-Aug-19 11:52 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
they are not one in the same and they can overlap but generally collectors don't care how much something they own is worth


[20-Aug-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
if collectors didn't want them, they would be worth less than what they were when they were released


[20-Aug-19 11:52 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
i meant that your mom isn't a real collector if she only has them for monetary value


[20-Aug-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't think she actually plans on selling them


[20-Aug-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
she would've sold them sometime in the past decade if that was the case


[20-Aug-19 11:53 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
then she is an anomaly


[20-Aug-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
No true scotsman, LB


[21-Aug-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WtPswGhPxQ

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[21-Aug-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Comment: "Ben Shapiro lost the debate, and it was an interview"


[21-Aug-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Look at the followup vid


[21-Aug-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
It's even greater


[21-Aug-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/plrW5kXCR94

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[21-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
My favorite counter arguments: https://youtu.be/1XMJTWD2mzs

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[21-Aug-19 12:56 AM] ononim#8141

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[21-Aug-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/903107a1cc23480ba2a77008fed7899e

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Trump acknowledges China polices may mean US economic pain
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[21-Aug-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/20/politics/donald-trump-jewish-americans-democrat-disloyalty/index.html

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Jewish leaders outraged by Trump saying Jews disloyal if they vote...
President Donald Trump on Tuesday criticized Jewish Americans who vote for Democrats, saying "it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."
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[21-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I yearn for a time where the president isn't on the news every day for 5 different moronic things they've said


[21-Aug-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was this jew thing today?


[21-Aug-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck


[21-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because some pundit on Fox and Friends said it.


[21-Aug-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does he think himself king of the jews now?


[21-Aug-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would thye swear loyalty to you?


[21-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he got the capital moved to Jerusalem and allows the Golan Heights


[21-Aug-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are the golan heights in america?


[21-Aug-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if not what actual fucking power would he have there?


[21-Aug-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why any BDS stuff is weird to me


[21-Aug-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex


[21-Aug-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/texas-hurricane-aid-dickinson-israel-boycott-pledge-harvey-financial-help-free-speech-a8011141.html

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A city in Texas won't give people hurricane aid unless they promis...
American Civil Liberties Union says application form for flooding relief grants 'reminiscent of McCarthy-era loyalty oaths'
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[21-Aug-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh fuck texas


[21-Aug-19 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This happens a lot of places


[21-Aug-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what does DPS standfor?


[21-Aug-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'd google it but google will jsut give me computer part terminology


[21-Aug-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.dps.texas.gov/

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TxDPS - Texas Department of Public Safety
Proactively protect the citizens of Texas in an ever changing threat environment 
    	while always remaining faithful to the U.S. and State Constitution


[21-Aug-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tl:dr it's texas legal enforcement oversight body


[21-Aug-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[21-Aug-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does BDS stand for?


[21-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

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Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
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[21-Aug-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should absolutely fire their graphics artist


[21-Aug-19 02:00 AM] Litrojia#0612
everywhere I look in that logo I see ass


[21-Aug-19 02:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What to expect from a place called dick-in-son


[21-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Don't use the Oxford Comma


[21-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suddenly I like them a little less


[21-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's get the hookers, Trump, and Netanyahu


[21-Aug-19 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BDS? that reads way too close to "BTS" for my comfort


[21-Aug-19 02:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Trump says U.S. 'far from a recession' as White House economic anxiety mounts https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-says-u-s-far-recession-white-house-economic-anxiety-n1044331

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[21-Aug-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bollucking taint systems?


[21-Aug-19 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what does that kpop band's acronym name even mean


[21-Aug-19 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Balls Towards Sawblade?


[21-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CBT


[21-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Crash BandicooT


[21-Aug-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boot tantalized sniffer?


[21-Aug-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bitches Tryna Sugme


[21-Aug-19 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Chinese are protesting the hong kong protests here in ireland. I am tempted to get a Taiwan flag and start a good ol'  ***FLEG*** riot


[21-Aug-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legislation forbidding contracting with companies that take part in a given boycott movement should be ruled unconstutional.


[21-Aug-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it _is_ unconstitutional


[21-Aug-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it just hasn't been successfully challenged yet for some reason


[21-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking a while


[21-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Standing is always the big problem


[21-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to be a contractor


[21-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
who was denied a contract


[21-Aug-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
becaues you supported BDS


[21-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is unlikely to ever happen realistically.


[21-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means no standing to challenge.


[21-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the conservatives in the judiciary are getting annoyed at liberals who deliberately set things up to get standing.


[21-Aug-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire ideal Republicans are going for is to hav all sorts of unconstitutional laws, but you can't prove you were affected so you can't actually get them taken off the books.


[21-Aug-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the logic is that being against Israel is racist/anti-Semitic/discriminatory then like


[21-Aug-19 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Couldn't you have a law saying "you must support LGBT or you can't have this job"


[21-Aug-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get on it, California.


[21-Aug-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[21-Aug-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
do note


[21-Aug-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's recent EO


[21-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
said that any company for religious reasons can fire you based on your views


[21-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. their religion


[21-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning "you must not support LGBT or you can't hav this job"


[21-Aug-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/8/16/20806990/trump-religion-lgbtq-discrimination-rule

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Trump’s plan to let employers discriminate against LGBTQ workers...
It’s a political move with major consequences.
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[21-Aug-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now imagine trying to prove this in court


[21-Aug-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The company could say it wasn't because you're gay


[21-Aug-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just because you "don't share their values"


[21-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You're fired because you refused to eat this baby, my religion demands that you eat this baby and you just refused to do it. You disgustme."


[21-Aug-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ghost of Charles Manson in Trump's America.


[21-Aug-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I refuse to offer services to you because my religion dictates that blacks shouldn't have equal rights compared to superior mayo people"


[21-Aug-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How's that for a loophole to bring back Jim Crow?


[21-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this has a "must be part of a real religion" clause in it


[21-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless I'm thinking of something else


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So what counts as a "real religion"


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What defines a real religion then?


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess it has to be registered with the irs?


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is Trump gonna go full Indonesia and codify a specific handful of religions as "official"?


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't, Its


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was previously used only for faith-based organizations


[21-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they could only screen on faith


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
like you couldn't work for a church if you were an atheist


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah I remember that Creation Museum thing


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the church can deny you for being gay etc.


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my reglion demands that you eat a baby once a year... don;t taze me bro


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now it applies to any organization


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
not just faith-based ones


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory Taco Bell could say you need to agree religiously with their founder, right now


[21-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chick Fil-A...


[21-Aug-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Taco Bell's support for Trump is nothing short of ironic


[21-Aug-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/RayRedacted/status/1163776715816153088

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[21-Aug-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awesome


[21-Aug-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
those arrows are super useless lmao


[21-Aug-19 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2f589698d5424dbda4be8d3acdf7ce6e

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Trump cancels Denmark visit because Greenland isn't for sale
WASHINGTON (AP) — Two days after he said buying Greenland wasn't a top priority, President Donald Trump canceled an upcoming trip to Denmark, which owns the mostly frozen island, after its prime...
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[21-Aug-19 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76iYtEwtLY

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[21-Aug-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Sqk7VYv

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Nothing will change
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[21-Aug-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
just got a message from my mom, she apparently wants to buy me plato's republic and rules for radicals because it would somehow teach me about the socialist threat and how they're trying to destroy the US


[21-Aug-19 07:28 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[21-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
and then a third book called "ameritopia" by mark levin


[21-Aug-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
mark levin is a super conservative talk show host


[21-Aug-19 07:33 AM] Treascair#7785
Mark Levin's on par with Alex Jones, just not as drug-addled.


[21-Aug-19 08:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKPfD72d2N0

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKPfD72d2N0
Why is Antifa Attacking the #Minds IRL Event?
Antifa are sending threats to the venue hosting the Minds IRL event. What difference does it make to them? You can get tickets for Minds IRL here: https://ir...
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[21-Aug-19 09:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't know who #minds is


[21-Aug-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's a "Free speech" event


[21-Aug-19 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.inquirer.com/news/new-jersey/new-jersey-pitman-broadway-theatre-race-discussion-20190820.html

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South Jersey theater cancels event about race relations amid threa...
The Broadway Theatre in Pitman has canceled plans for a weekend event that had drawn protests.
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[21-Aug-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
it's being dressed up as an event about "race relations" and "combating racism, violence, and authoritarianism", but the fine print says that it's about free speech


[21-Aug-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
which boils down to "why can't I be an open fascist1!?1?!?" nowadays


[21-Aug-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Come on guys, we're just trying to be peacefully racist here, Y'all mexijews need to stop harrassing us""


[21-Aug-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
also, anyone who speaks even the slightest bit critically of israel is being called an antisemite now


[21-Aug-19 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
because if you don't agree with someone, obviously you want to oppress and exterminate them


[21-Aug-19 10:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want to exterminate the GOP doesnt mean they;re oppressed


[21-Aug-19 10:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/095ceba3eac8471681a3fa920ab80304

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Danish royal household 'surprised' by Trump canceling trip
COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to cancel a visit to Denmark next month after the prime minister described his plan to buy Greenland as "absurd" took the Danish...
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[21-Aug-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 the trip wasn't actually cancelled


[21-Aug-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
and trump only said that to look good in the eyes of his base


[21-Aug-19 10:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how is cancelling because greenland isnt for sale, a positive base move?


[21-Aug-19 10:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trump base is confusing...


[21-Aug-19 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
because his base wants a powerful looking leader, no matter how dumb those "power moves" are


[21-Aug-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
they're probably calling it a flawless stable genius moment


[21-Aug-19 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
4D chess etc


[21-Aug-19 10:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"By gum it;s 600D chess uh tall yo watt!"


[21-Aug-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
in his world, him cancelling the meeting would cause the danish to scramble in an attempt to appease him by taking the offer seriously


[21-Aug-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
when in reality, they don't give a shit if he comes over or not


[21-Aug-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
trump is ruining the position of the US president in the eyes of the rest of the world


[21-Aug-19 10:13 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:CadenceWheeze:


[21-Aug-19 10:13 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
did u forgot about George Bush junior?


[21-Aug-19 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
bush junior has nothing on trump


[21-Aug-19 10:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
compared to Trump bush was an actual stable genius


[21-Aug-19 10:54 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[21-Aug-19 10:54 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yes


[21-Aug-19 10:55 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the bush family and Obama fam wayyy much better then dirty ol cunt


[21-Aug-19 11:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/21/asia/hong-kong-simon-cheng-intl-hnk/index.html

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China says it has detained a UK consulate employee
An employee of the British consulate who has been missing for almost two weeks has been detained in mainland China, the country's ministry of foreign affairs confirmed Wednesday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190821164109-simon-cheng-new-super-tease.jpg


[21-Aug-19 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49415773

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Trump considers new tax cut to boost US economy
The US president confirms that a temporary payroll cut tax could be introduced.
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[21-Aug-19 12:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The solution to all problems is to lower taxes


[21-Aug-19 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then shrug when public services get shut down for lack of funding


[21-Aug-19 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49415973

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'Record number of fires' in Brazilian rainforest
Fires in the Amazon have risen 84% amid growing deforestation, Brazil's space research agency says.
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[21-Aug-19 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like someone else wants to get fired


[21-Aug-19 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Last guy that had the gall to point out the Amazon wasn't doing so well got the ax


[21-Aug-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The last batch of layoffs got real burned up about it for sure


[21-Aug-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Here at amazon we like to refer to our layoffs as a deforestation


[21-Aug-19 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.is/OYjQA

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Hong Kong police caught on camera torturing a... | Taiwan News
archived 21 Aug 2019 13:14:42 UTC


[21-Aug-19 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610

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[21-Aug-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whoa friend, slow down

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[21-Aug-19 04:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
TEXAS MUST COMPLETE THE DIALECTIC AND EXECUTE ONE


[21-Aug-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141

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[21-Aug-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
New Garrison bois


[21-Aug-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
I love how it implies what Trump IS white supermacist


[21-Aug-19 05:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[21-Aug-19 05:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldCKmAvfWLU

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Sulomon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldCKmAvfWLU
Marching Through Georgia Ear Rape
Being introduced to Union Civil War Music has made my week
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[21-Aug-19 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine witnessing five to six nazi terrorist attacks in the span of less than two years in the US and somehow not believing white supremacy is a dangerous ideology


[21-Aug-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someone really needs to tell Garrison that he's just an idiot hiding his insecurity behind a veneer of mockery


[21-Aug-19 05:40 PM] ononim#8141
They probably played too much of Gay Too Ay and some evil feminazi rejected thier polite proposition of sucking thier cock, that's all


[21-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b66e925bdda14877ba8edfe0ec55a0cc

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Trump administration moves to end limits on child detention
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is moving to end a long-standing federal agreement that limits how long immigrant children can be kept in detention. A court fight will almost certainly...
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[21-Aug-19 07:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Well it's a good thing he's ending child detentio— oh he just wants to remove the limit


[21-Aug-19 07:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🤦


[21-Aug-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
maybe trump fancies himself the next epstein


[21-Aug-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
actually, someone should take that angle on it


[21-Aug-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-19 07:20 PM] Torr#5078
(((Donald Trump)))


[21-Aug-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/like-the-king-of-israel-trump-unleashes-bizarre-twitter-storm-1.7728867 the tweets are real...

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'Like the King of Israel': Trump unleashes bizarre Twitter storm d...
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[21-Aug-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Why do we have him as a president again?


[21-Aug-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the DNC fucked up


[21-Aug-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also russia


[21-Aug-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Right


[21-Aug-19 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Also, WOW


[21-Aug-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he called himself the second coming of god...


[21-Aug-19 07:27 PM] illumnious#7938
More like the devil’s son


[21-Aug-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think even the devil coudl raise this kind of slime


[21-Aug-19 07:27 PM] illumnious#7938
The second coming of God my ass


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
2016 was a mistake


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
wow


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
WOW


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
:wow:


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
GLIMMER


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:glimmer_cute:


[21-Aug-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
:wow::Selfboop:


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats wrong glimmer


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:glimmerholyshit:


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
God sent trump because the locusts werent enough this time


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh boy


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938
November 2020


[21-Aug-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-19 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Haha


[21-Aug-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493851951709290500/613792712726151168/Dont_think_consume.jpg

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[21-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The quote makes no sense


[21-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was complaining that it was weird for an actor to play a hero then a villain


[21-Aug-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is a completely stupid point of criticism


[21-Aug-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated, Elizabeth Warren co-authored a textbook for one of my classes


[21-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Torr#5078
"They love him like he is the second coming of god" mm


[21-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Torr#5078
That reminds me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Larratt_Battersby

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James Larratt Battersby
James "Jim" Larratt Battersby (1907–1955) was a British fascist and pacifist, and a member of the Battersby family of hatmakers of Stockport, Greater Manchester, England. He was forced to retire from the family firm due to his politics and was interned by the British govern...
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[21-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Torr#5078
"During his detention he came to believe that Adolf Hitler was Christ returned"


[21-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Torr#5078
:blep:


[21-Aug-19 08:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:radiant_hope_unamused:


[21-Aug-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://notjordanpeterson.com/

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Not Jordan Peterson
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[21-Aug-19 08:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Oh man i had fun making stuff on that


[21-Aug-19 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0w2WRZHj5xv


[21-Aug-19 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0PNpZHEcVKi


[21-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to pass derpi shitposts through this


[21-Aug-19 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/i-am-the-chosen-one-trump-proclaims-as-he-defends-china-trade-war.html

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'I am the Chosen One,' Trump proclaims as he defends trade war wit...
The president's remark followed a string of criticisms aimed at his predecessors, whom he claimed had ignored China's alleged malpractice on trade.
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[21-Aug-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He knows Darth Vader dies right


[21-Aug-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good he's gone full messiah complex


[21-Aug-19 09:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...Isn't this a thing in the Bible? False prophets claiming themselves to being the chosen one?


[21-Aug-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yesit is


[21-Aug-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but trump has never read a bible


[21-Aug-19 09:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I wonder how all the die-hard christians that still support Trump are going to take this


[21-Aug-19 09:25 PM] Litrojia#0612
Turn the other cheek, as always


[21-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Litrojia#0612
Whenever supporters can ignore bad things that happen to him, they do, whether intentionally or not


[21-Aug-19 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the christians following him are the type that cherry pick their bibles for the stuff televanglists and preachers tell them


[21-Aug-19 09:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah. So they're still reading the Old Testament then


[21-Aug-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have likely never read the book them selves


[21-Aug-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yeah


[21-Aug-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they read the new testament they'd probably call jesus a traitor


[21-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Litrojia#0612
or even worse, they won't ignore it but brush it off as "haha this got the media so pissed"


[21-Aug-19 09:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/csunhu/hong_kong_police_tortured_a_62yearold_suspect_at/

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[21-Aug-19 09:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump is throwing a tantrum and trying to convince people that Greenland insulted the US with their comments. All she said was that Greenland was not for sale.

Canceling a visit last minute wasting money preparing to protect his dumb ass.


[21-Aug-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Diehard christians" are people who believe that little girls are for breeding, @Marukomuru


[21-Aug-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not people who recite the bible praying and loving god


[21-Aug-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that's exclusively white little girls.


[21-Aug-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brown ones are for mulching.


[21-Aug-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Organized religion has masses of people whose main quality is they like having an authority that keeps them in power.


[21-Aug-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's people who literally don't understand the ethical foundation of the Ten Commandments


[21-Aug-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
only the resulting ideals


[21-Aug-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whatever their priest says is to them how it should be and all who disagree should be killed.


[21-Aug-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why fascism loves to use religion.


[21-Aug-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Organized religion is basically fascism with some slightly different parts.


[21-Aug-19 10:43 PM] ColdCornbread#8159
Those crackers were never good anyways


[21-Aug-19 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[21-Aug-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1164246079224909825

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Can I give myself the Medal of Honor?” - Donald Trump, at AMVETS, seeming to forget that he actively avoided military service
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[21-Aug-19 11:46 PM] illumnious#7938
March for Our Lives unveils bold new proposal for gun control legislation https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/march-our-lives-unveils-bold-new-proposal-gun-control-legislation-n1044996

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March for Our Lives unveils bold new proposal for gun control legi...
“It is an appropriate and bold response to the massive amount of gun deaths we have every single year in the United States right now,” said Parkland survivor David Hogg.
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[22-Aug-19 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1164233656799506433

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I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/
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[22-Aug-19 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
apparently hasbro licensed this


[22-Aug-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm also just laughing hard at the conservatives in the replies decrying the OP for "not having a sense of humor"


[22-Aug-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
truth is, the right cannot meme, they're just projecting and demanding that leftists laugh along so they can feel like they are


[22-Aug-19 12:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Both sides can meme; they're just too busy saying "other side bad" to notice


[22-Aug-19 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hasbro's licensed shitloads of mock-monopolies


[22-Aug-19 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're one-time party games for half drunk 30-somethings


[22-Aug-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People really shouldn't read too much into them


[22-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzlxrPC_E_U

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President Trump: "I am the chosen one."
While answering a question about trade with China, President Trump says, "I am the chosen one." Full video here: https://cs.pn/2HiLUGp
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[22-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
another important part about this clip is that trump said that the EU has been stealing from the US economy somehow


[22-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
says that the US is the "piggy bank everyone wants to rob"


[22-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
including the EU


[22-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using the power of superior products and TARIFFS


[22-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
ONLY I GET TO DO THAT YOU PEASANTS etc.


[22-Aug-19 01:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh regarding the trump messiah tweet, I'm afraid that headline is pretty darn misleading


[22-Aug-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 3 part tweet?


[22-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, he declared himself the king if _Israel_, not the jews


[22-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A better headline would be "trump retweets his favorite conspiracy theorist again, thanking him for comparing him to the second coming and the 'king of israel'"


[22-Aug-19 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...and then not two hours later started bashing on the squad for being antisemitic again


[22-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, what title?


[22-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
I think you're confusing the clip of him calling himself the chosen one and the article about the guy calling him the king of israel


[22-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
the article title clearly states "like the King of Israel"


[22-Aug-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wasn't referring to an article in particular


[22-Aug-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but oh boy I missed that video clip


[22-Aug-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"everyone is anti semitic for criticizing isreal, especially those anti semitic american jews!"


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
someone did the math on that and figured out that *at minimum* he'd insulted 1.5 million Americans


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only 1.5 million?


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry, 1.6 at minimum


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
up till now, or with that single tweet?


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He insults every American at least once a week.


[22-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just by existing.


[22-Aug-19 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
``There are roughly 6 million Jewish Americans. Depending on definitions some say as many as 12 million, but I'll use the lower 6 million estimate...

If 75% are voting age, that comes out to roughly 4.5 million Jewish Americans of voting age...

If half of them vote (49.3% voted in 2018 and 61.4% voted in 2016), that means roughly 2.25 million Jewish Americans vote...

Roughly 70% vote Democratic, and 70% of 2.25 million is roughly 1.6 million.``


[22-Aug-19 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
-/u/imagepoem on reddit


[22-Aug-19 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this, in regards to the other, other, other thing he said: "any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat — I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty."


[22-Aug-19 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like um


[22-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
F a s c i s m.


[22-Aug-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know because the jewish people should vote for the nazi lover


[22-Aug-19 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but he's like the king of israel!


[22-Aug-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and jesus the second!


[22-Aug-19 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just a quick reminder that Judaism very specifically does not believe in the "second coming" because they are still waiting for the first


[22-Aug-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"if we destroy the earth god will give us a new one!" -people who probably crash rental cars


[22-Aug-19 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just a quick tip: Anyone who thinks expediting rapture is a good idea in any way has unrealistically optimistic expectations for their survival in the apocalypse


[22-Aug-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah those people will likely die first


[22-Aug-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as they smash the nuclear power plant with hammers


[22-Aug-19 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I count "ending up in their afterlife of preference" as survival in this scenario


[22-Aug-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[22-Aug-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they go to norse hel


[22-Aug-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the frozen one


[22-Aug-19 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on that note, I seem to recall that the current leader of the Zionist movement is self-described as being non-religious


[22-Aug-19 01:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which tells me that he's got more short-term rewards in mind


[22-Aug-19 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
some men just want ~~to watch the world burn~~ another yacht


[22-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
so I got an insane quote from my mom yesterday


[22-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
I was telling her that the US's GDP for 2018 was about $25 trillion


[22-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
and she said "I don't know what it is, but I know you're wrong"


[22-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
if she were on discord or IRC, that would've been an instant quote


[22-Aug-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
say it so I can pin it


[22-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
she seems convinced that the US only makes like $5 trillion a year or something


[22-Aug-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that is so fitting for #politics


[22-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
> "I don't know what it is, but I know you're wrong."


[22-Aug-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[22-Aug-19 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I take it you laughed in her face


[22-Aug-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[22-Aug-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
and I said I'd bring it up every time she tried to argue politics with me


[22-Aug-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
basically, she was listening to some talk show dude (I think it was mark levin) who was saying that going off the taxes collected from bernie's hypothetical tax on people who make $10 million or more a year that it wouldn't come close to paying for medicare for all


[22-Aug-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
and I said that it seems like everyone conveniently ignores the corporate taxes he wants to implement to pay for it


[22-Aug-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
and she seems to be of the mindset that even the slightest tax to corporations would lead to massive layoffs and a huge depression


[22-Aug-19 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it's actually a huge benefit to businesses


[22-Aug-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
granted, she seems to think that all tax cuts are god's gift to us


[22-Aug-19 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
see, this corporate tax will be rolling benefits that large corporations already provide for their employees to all businesses at a lower cost


[22-Aug-19 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
things like medical coverage and paying for grad school


[22-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No longer having to deal with employee health insurance


[22-Aug-19 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it even massively levels the playing field for small businesses


[22-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like communist propaganda, but ok \/s


[22-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, jfc, the fact that your continued health coverage depends on your employment at a specific company is the most indentured-servitude shit ever


[22-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
she seems to be ok with prison slavery when I bring up the private prison system


[22-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
basically, she doesn't think prison should be used to rehabilitate criminals


[22-Aug-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
why not


[22-Aug-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
are criminals just inherently lower caste


[22-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
though she fundamentally agrees that she thinks that the private prison system is shit


[22-Aug-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
trying to argue it through bringing up slavery seems to only make her basically say that they deserve it though


[22-Aug-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
okay so your mom is a conservative


[22-Aug-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, you're not happy with your prospects here? Well, sure would be a shame is little Billy's chemo treatments were, *lip-smack*, no longer covered, huh?"


[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
like, definitionally


[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
thinks that there is a social hierarchy


[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
and you better stay in your place or else


[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1164228993169723398?s=21

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[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
I'm gonna send her the video of trump calling himself the chosen one and the tweets likening himself to being the king of israel


[22-Aug-19 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon basically


[22-Aug-19 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
BERNIE GOING TO BRING BACK THE ONE BIG UNION BY EXECUTIVE DECREE


[22-Aug-19 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/nQWBH71UDFM

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[22-Aug-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ReadAndAct_/status/1164232225149337605

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[22-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
it won't be class warfare until there's workers dragging their CEOs out into the streets and beating them for their shitty conditions


[22-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
and that's "brutish" and "uncivilized" nowadays, so that'll never happen


[22-Aug-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
your boss is not the appropriate person to hold accountable for the economic crisis


[22-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
until CEOs are hiring armed guards to protect themselves from their own workers


[22-Aug-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the CEOs


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's not class warfare


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
yes, I mean CEOs


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The CEOs will point to the shareholders


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and really the board of directors in general


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie: legalizes office massacres


[22-Aug-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't there some thing that came out recently that a bunch of rich dudes are now against holding the shareholder above all


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
because it leads to shitty worker conditions and loss of productivity


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One fucking fishing trawler cutting an undersea line along the New York coast would solve so many problems


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
they're redundant


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
sadly


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
one million instant trade connections crying in horror


[22-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:<


[22-Aug-19 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=137392506516022&w=2


[22-Aug-19 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow yep


[22-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: the current US GDP is $21.3 trillion


[22-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
and 2019 isn't even over yet


[22-Aug-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtCt5mM42I4

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[22-Aug-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Welp there goes inslee


[22-Aug-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeeted into the void.


[22-Aug-19 05:25 AM] illumnious#7938
Jay Inslee drops out of the 2020 presidential race https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/jay-inslee-drops-out-2020-presidential-race-n1045066

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Jay Inslee drops out of the 2020 presidential race
The climate change-focused candidate told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow that he had "never been so confident" of America's ability to tackle the issue.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_34/2980431/190821-jay-inslee-ew-521p_291ca50dc5af136b606a2917c7c7308c.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[22-Aug-19 05:26 AM] Mikey#7286
who?


[22-Aug-19 05:29 AM] illumnious#7938
nobody cares


[22-Aug-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, he was a pretty loud climate change supporter


[22-Aug-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like that ended up being his main platform


[22-Aug-19 05:30 AM] illumnious#7938
also tRump is tweeting about this


[22-Aug-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so at least he brought that to the table before leaving


[22-Aug-19 05:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
unless trump says something that actually leads directly to his impeachment on Twitter, I don't really wanna see it ._.


[22-Aug-19 05:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/extracoolcam101/status/1164359900413095936?s=20

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https://twitter.com/extracoolcam101/status/1164359900413095936?s=20
When Jay Inslee hears someone call him Jay Outslee. https://t.co/YfFJNfqUrG
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[22-Aug-19 05:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
first ojeda, then swalwell, then hickenlooper, then inslee


[22-Aug-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
who next


[22-Aug-19 05:32 AM] illumnious#7938
Sanders?


[22-Aug-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
next?


[22-Aug-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
not sure


[22-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
sanders won't drop out


[22-Aug-19 05:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I would have guessed Messam, Moulton, Bullock or Ryan


[22-Aug-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
he's literally the driving force right now


[22-Aug-19 05:33 AM] illumnious#7938
agree


[22-Aug-19 05:33 AM] illumnious#7938
this is going to be fucking good


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tbh what the actual hell are messam and moulton doing in the race


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least swalwell made guns a prominent issue (before Dayton and El Paso at least)


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] illumnious#7938
trying to beat tRump


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Inslee said a lot about climate


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] illumnious#7938
or being silly


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raising the celebrity status of their names so that they can win lesser races.


[22-Aug-19 05:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but Moulton and Messam bring nothing


[22-Aug-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about getting your name in before running for congress.


[22-Aug-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's really that only reason, huh


[22-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[22-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arguing with Biden or even Warren for a bit gets your policy ideas out there


[22-Aug-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you can reference the debates when you run for congress.


[22-Aug-19 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
hey remember this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyd_eIgrnfk

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[22-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Treascair#7785
Inslee's my governor, actually.  Nice dude.  Felt fucking sorry for him reading his twitter though.  Absolutely no way to win with folks here.


[22-Aug-19 05:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wouldn't have minded Inslee


[22-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Treascair#7785
do something for the orcas? someone screams about taxes.  Do some nice 'local small business' tax cuts? Someone screams about Amazon's bullshit.  he tries to step in on that? "You're killing the economy, just like you're murdering babies with your support for Planned Parenthood!"


[22-Aug-19 05:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sorry I didn't know another entire species wasn't worth 2-5% of your paycheck


[22-Aug-19 05:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but yeah you kinda just have to ignore people like that


[22-Aug-19 05:43 AM] Treascair#7785
shit, with the potholes around Tacoma and all the I-5 construction, I'd be happy to pay more in taxes if it means shit gets done better.


[22-Aug-19 05:44 AM] Treascair#7785
but whoever wins the Dem nom would actually be smart to tap him as a policy adviser for sure.


[22-Aug-19 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The underdog I'd hoped would break through the pack was Buttigieg. I can live with that not happening, though, *that* dude has punched a golden ticket for bigger and better things even if some of these other nobodies haven't


[22-Aug-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
honestly, the underdog I'm shooting to pull through rn is Yang


[22-Aug-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
dude knows his stuff


[22-Aug-19 05:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and he's not an asshole


[22-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm liking Yang myself, but he needs to have some more meat to his proposals.


[22-Aug-19 05:46 AM] Treascair#7785
I think if it was, like, Warren/Yang or vice versa, it'd be stellar.


[22-Aug-19 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Tbh I kinda see Yang as just the magnet for the moderates who wololo'd back to blue after getting burned by making the Sanders->Trump wololo


[22-Aug-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh yeah, warren would be a good frontrunner choice


[22-Aug-19 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Warren is my current pick for "most likely to succeed"


[22-Aug-19 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
with the giant asterisk of IF BIDEN WOULD JUST GO AWAY


[22-Aug-19 05:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wouldn't hate biden being president; tbh I wouldn't hate any Dem as president


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
though I don't think he's the best choice


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Treascair#7785
Biden needs to REALLY go away.  He *worries me*, between his multiple 'mis-speakings' and his age.  Sanders has good policy ideas, but his age worries me too


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
even if *as of right now*, he's our best bet for beating Trump


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, it's not so much his policies as it is that his mere presence is having a profoundly negative effect on the rest of the race


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and this is poll numbers talking, which is why I say "right now"


[22-Aug-19 05:48 AM] Treascair#7785
Frankly, I'd about *kill* for someone that was under 50, because they'd at least be in the fucking ballpark for relevance to current political issues.


[22-Aug-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that doesn't leave you with many big candidates though lol


[22-Aug-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think that takes out the big 3


[22-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Treascair#7785
How old's Warren?


[22-Aug-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
not sure


[22-Aug-19 05:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
seems over 50 though


[22-Aug-19 05:50 AM] Treascair#7785
oh! Harris can take a flying leap too!


[22-Aug-19 05:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
lmao warren's 70


[22-Aug-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
She's 70 iirc


[22-Aug-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and Sanders is just...he seemed like he was too old *last* time around


[22-Aug-19 05:50 AM] Treascair#7785
Warren for policy, then.


[22-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Treascair#7785
Booker's 50... Pete's 39...


[22-Aug-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think mayor pete is the candidate we deserve, but not the one we need right now


[22-Aug-19 05:51 AM] Treascair#7785
Beto seems like a good all-arounder


[22-Aug-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I've been noticing is that of all the candidates, Warren has put the most effort into making a statement on current affairs as Trump tweets them


[22-Aug-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
she's also got the most thought-out plan


[22-Aug-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that should, in theory, be attractive to establishment voters


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Establishment voters want a white man


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
who hates blakks


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and can reach across the aisle to segregationists


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf is an "establishment voter"


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers.


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
so a neolib then


[22-Aug-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
biden's their guy


[22-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[22-Aug-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of them actually care someone has a plan.


[22-Aug-19 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Joe "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden


[22-Aug-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Joe "poor kids are just as smart as white kids" Biden


[22-Aug-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I'm looking around at what the status quo is now compared to where it was even 4 years ago and I don't see how he could be okay with that


[22-Aug-19 05:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"truth over facts"


[22-Aug-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Aug-19 05:59 AM] Treascair#7785
Nebbie? sidenote, why do you not type with 'ck' in writing? it's 'blacks', not 'blakks', for instance.  That's messed with me.


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
the letter c doesn't deserve to exist


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
it serves no purpose and is an arbitrary redundancy


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
does EVERY staff have a vendetta against c


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] Mikey#7286
E


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I tried but it ended up spilling into my irl writing


[22-Aug-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
where I'd substitute c for k or s


[22-Aug-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
reposting https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493851951709290500/613792712726151168/Dont_think_consume.jpg

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[22-Aug-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Forever relevant


[22-Aug-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[22-Aug-19 06:08 AM] Treascair#7785
I've mostly just been confused about it. I apologize if I came off snappish at all, I've been dealing with an unending headache for the last several hours.


[22-Aug-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm just starting to get one


[22-Aug-19 06:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
right before school too?


[22-Aug-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah I'm getting the meds


[22-Aug-19 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
paracetemol 500mg 2x
naproxen sodium 220mg 2x


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man one time I was writing like, "enuff" in my notes for some really stupid class


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
optional (skip if you regularly consume caffeinated beverages): 100-250mg caffeine, tablet


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and since we turn in our notes


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the teacher actually got mad lol


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was so dumb


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like it was uh, this class with no assignments or anything


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
graded Pass/Fail


[22-Aug-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
just about general ideas of engineering


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
complete waste of time.


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 credit.


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not worth 1 credit.


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why tf did teach make you turn in notes


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's how we were graded on attendance


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
again, very dumb.


[22-Aug-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like it was "concepts of engineering" or something


[22-Aug-19 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
what kind of masochistic professor wants to read students notes


[22-Aug-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Intro to General Engineering


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It literally was just


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
listen to a powerpoint presentation


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
about some random engineering topic


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
once a week for an hour


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
take a single sheet of notes


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
get graded pass/fail


[22-Aug-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, @byte[], for grading attendance, but man, that he actually caught like an instance of "enuff" is pretty hilarious


[22-Aug-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or who knows, maybe everyone else couldn't actually spell.


[22-Aug-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Entirely probable given the retards that go for engineering degrees first year.


[22-Aug-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
my first year roommate


[22-Aug-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
came for ChemE


[22-Aug-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
made Cs and Ds on his midterms


[22-Aug-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
probably didn't do much better on finals


[22-Aug-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
left first day of second semester


[22-Aug-19 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
before I had even had a chance to move back in


[22-Aug-19 06:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm staying in a solo dorm this time around


[22-Aug-19 06:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
no roommates


[22-Aug-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Privacy issues?


[22-Aug-19 06:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
no I'm just introverted af


[22-Aug-19 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I am staying in a regular double


[22-Aug-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I recognize my social shortcomings


[22-Aug-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and I am trying to overcome them


[22-Aug-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW you should get into anal sex, @IAmADeliciousPotato


[22-Aug-19 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what


[22-Aug-19 06:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what led you to that conclusion ._.


[22-Aug-19 06:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
actually no don't explain it I don't want to know


[22-Aug-19 06:27 AM] Treascair#7785
I should go back to college sometime... apparently Tacoma is top-rated in the country for community college...


[22-Aug-19 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
lmfao where did that come from


[22-Aug-19 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[22-Aug-19 07:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2103f9c8f46044aeaf1693d641188218

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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Planned Parenthood clinics in several states are charging new fees, tapping into financial reserves, intensifying fundraising and warning of more unintended pregnancies and...
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[22-Aug-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"...but is considering charging a small copay for patients who used to get care for free."


[22-Aug-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the Republicans really want


[22-Aug-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
for all healthcare to be shitty private healthcare, always gotta pay


[22-Aug-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
always the poor pushed out due to money issues.


[22-Aug-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the religious nutsos lose, the neoliberals score another victory.


[22-Aug-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Hospital for all" literally is in that Monopoly SOCIALISM boardgame btw


[22-Aug-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
in with all the other things meant to say socialism's bad.


[22-Aug-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the idea of a hospital treating everyone without regard to payment is considered *intrinsically bad*.


[22-Aug-19 08:19 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Which part of the world are we complaining about again?


[22-Aug-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
America.


[22-Aug-19 08:20 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Yeah


[22-Aug-19 08:20 AM] NightZeroni#9056
I thought so


[22-Aug-19 08:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's usually the US here


[22-Aug-19 08:20 AM] NightZeroni#9056
That's allllllllllllllllll fucked up.


[22-Aug-19 08:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thje statue of liberty should just be a lady huddled and crying in a corner at this point if it's a representation of america


[22-Aug-19 08:22 AM] NightZeroni#9056
*sensible chuckle*


[22-Aug-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well remember, Trump administration is fukking with the peom on it


[22-Aug-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And saying it only applied to Europeans


[22-Aug-19 08:23 AM] NightZeroni#9056
*slowly breaks into madened laughter*


[22-Aug-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
(not like the author of the poem was from a people expelled from Europe in the *15th century* or anything...)


[22-Aug-19 08:24 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Is their anything we talkshit about Russia?


[22-Aug-19 08:24 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Bc i never see anything on them in these channels.


[22-Aug-19 08:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Don't think anyone here is a Russia apologist


[22-Aug-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean it's pretty hard to say much other than how rigged their whole system is.


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Given that one of the main criticisms these guys have for the GOP is that they appear to be Russia's lapdog


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia does extremely blatant tampering in every level of gov't decision and voting.


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Yea


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And diplomatic interaction


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Aug-19 08:25 AM] NightZeroni#9056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCj73lWec-Y

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Galaxy Elite Gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCj73lWec-Y
KGB OPEN UP!
Therussianbadger:https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRussianBadger So funny
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cCj73lWec-Y/hqdefault.jpg


[22-Aug-19 08:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking of russian interference Trump has developed a messiah complex and i wonder how that will effect russia's plans


[22-Aug-19 08:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He didn't have one already?


[22-Aug-19 08:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Like long before 2016?


[22-Aug-19 08:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he kinda did but now hels openly declaring it


[22-Aug-19 08:26 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Wait what. I didn't know this.


[22-Aug-19 08:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when asked about the trade war with china trump said he was the chosen one, as well as retweeting a review of him that said he was the second comoing of god, and the king of isreal


[22-Aug-19 08:27 AM] NightZeroni#9056
. . .


[22-Aug-19 08:27 AM] NightZeroni#9056
I


[22-Aug-19 08:27 AM] NightZeroni#9056
I don't


[22-Aug-19 08:28 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Waht?


[22-Aug-19 08:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give me a second i can get the tweets


[22-Aug-19 08:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Aug-19 08:29 AM] NightZeroni#9056

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[22-Aug-19 08:32 AM] NightZeroni#9056
I find myself wanting to facedesk.


[22-Aug-19 08:32 AM] NightZeroni#9056
*Yet again*


[22-Aug-19 08:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also has begun attacking denmark because they refuse to even discuss selling greenland to him


[22-Aug-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally their queen invited him


[22-Aug-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he started dissing their prime minister for relaying that she finds his refusal over this insulting


[22-Aug-19 08:34 AM] NightZeroni#9056

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[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conan O'Brien called it "an utter shitshow" on air


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Am i the only one who thinks all of the worlds Nukes should just *vanish* unexplickibly??


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah that would be great


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would be great


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] NightZeroni#9056
So that this kinda bullshit can just be *stomped away*


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This bullshit would still be there without nukes.


[22-Aug-19 08:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We could stop always dreading nuclear fallout that in the back of our head


[22-Aug-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism is a disease.


[22-Aug-19 08:36 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Facism is the- No no stop it brain.


[22-Aug-19 08:37 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Didn't Trump do the Nazi salute once?


[22-Aug-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, but his inaugural speech was about "America First"


[22-Aug-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The slogan of 1930s Nazi sympathizers in advocating neutrality towards Germany


[22-Aug-19 08:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m surprised he hasnt developed his own salute yet


[22-Aug-19 08:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we arent nazis, see we even have our own original salute, so totally not the nazis"


[22-Aug-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/2017/01/seuss/d63122875.jpg

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[22-Aug-19 08:39 AM] NightZeroni#9056
A Coward. *Probably a sympathiser.* A Child with daddys money.


[22-Aug-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, Trump right now is trying to end limits on detaining children in concentration camps.


[22-Aug-19 08:40 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Has anyone seen Bill Burrs "If i was a Dictator"?


[22-Aug-19 08:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not


[22-Aug-19 08:40 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Think Trump needs a little *vacation*


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] NightZeroni#9056
So does Putin


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump will probably get a *vacation* when he outlives his usefulness to putin


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] NightZeroni#9056
And that Saudi bloke


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] NightZeroni#9056
And the PM of Britain


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] NightZeroni#9056
And Un


[22-Aug-19 08:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the prisident of brazil


[22-Aug-19 08:42 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Basically every National Leader that just makes you want to commit Neck Rope


[22-Aug-19 08:44 AM] NightZeroni#9056
What i want to do. Is live somewhere isolated in the world, with all of the modern ameneties, and just cut the rest of the world off.


[22-Aug-19 08:44 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Live like a semi-hermit


[22-Aug-19 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just want my own house


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Same


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am unable to move out of my parent's hosue


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Gonna be joining the ADF


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] NightZeroni#9056
So


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] NightZeroni#9056
Home away from home


[22-Aug-19 08:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ADF?


[22-Aug-19 08:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b66e925bdda14877ba8edfe0ec55a0cc here's the migrant children story

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Trump moves to end limits on detention of migrant children
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is moving to end an agreement limiting how long migrant children can be kept in detention, the president's latest effort to curb immigration at the...
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[22-Aug-19 08:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a40bd29a208a4813864e7ac880a22c78

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AP Analysis: Trump's 'disloyal' jab may boost base, not Jews
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's branding of American Jews who vote for Democrats as "disloyal" to their religion and Israel prompted alarms of anti-Semitism. But his ultimate aim...
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[22-Aug-19 02:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Aug-19 02:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Big brain TPUSA


[22-Aug-19 02:40 PM] ononim#8141
Charlie out there advicating for radical children liberation and abolishment of hte institution of family and traditional parental relations


[22-Aug-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
unrelated

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[22-Aug-19 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
||~~If Geralt was in Poland nationalist in there probably would call him a "cultural marxist" too tbh~~||


[22-Aug-19 03:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so trump said one of the most dumbest thing on live media If I can find the video I will link


[22-Aug-19 03:37 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Ah lol, if I didn't know CD Projekt better I'd ask when are they bringing this outfit through micro-transaction


[22-Aug-19 03:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFW_nA12zG8

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TheDC Shorts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFW_nA12zG8
Trump: "I Am The Chosen One"
Subscribe to our channel! https://goo.gl/pyGqbu Speaking to reporters, Trump defended his actions against china arguing that the US has been exploited to the...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bFW_nA12zG8/hqdefault.jpg


[22-Aug-19 03:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
here it is *cringes*


[22-Aug-19 03:40 PM] ononim#8141
"It's over president, I have the high ground"


[22-Aug-19 03:50 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
the way he put his hands up and looked at the sky eugh


[22-Aug-19 03:51 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
*cringes again*


[22-Aug-19 04:07 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh did anyone see this cartoon clip of him to done by the creator of the simpsons


[22-Aug-19 04:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think Its gonna be an actual show about him


[22-Aug-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not


[22-Aug-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have however heard the voice actor for zaff brannigan read his tweets


[22-Aug-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it was amazingly fitting


[22-Aug-19 04:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah you showed that one


[22-Aug-19 04:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
really good


[22-Aug-19 04:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ups


[22-Aug-19 04:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
might not link


[22-Aug-19 04:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.newsweek.com/squad-sings-donald-trump-simpsons-west-side-story-1455399

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"The Squad" sings to Donald Trump in "The Simpsons" clip: "We're m...
The spoof of "West Side Story" sees Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib confront the president in the White House.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1521813/squad-trump-simpsons.jpg


[22-Aug-19 04:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its really good


[22-Aug-19 04:17 PM] ononim#8141
>modern simpsons


[22-Aug-19 04:17 PM] ononim#8141
>good


[22-Aug-19 04:18 PM] ononim#8141

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[22-Aug-19 04:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
that clip is retarded af


[22-Aug-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Missouri-health-officials-raise-concerns-about-hepatitis-A-outbreak-557863761.html

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Missouri health officials raise concerns about hepatitis A outbreak
Health officials say the virus has sent 233 people to the hospital and caused two deaths.
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[22-Aug-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also this


[22-Aug-19 04:19 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
eugh


[22-Aug-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1164225530629165056

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https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1164225530629165056
Scientists warn that losing another fifth of Brazil’s Amazon will trigger the feedback loop known as dieback, in which the forest begins to dry out and burn in a cascading system collapse, beyond the reach of any subsequent human intervention or regret. https://t.co/oQqu...
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[22-Aug-19 04:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
i didnt even know about the amazon til today really


[22-Aug-19 04:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
fucking media


[22-Aug-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s really fucked up


[22-Aug-19 04:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah sure we will cover noture dome ,9/11, and the grenfell tower


[22-Aug-19 04:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh whats that the most talked about forest in history is burning > ha lol lets just cover on how video games are violent again


[22-Aug-19 04:29 PM] ononim#8141
Siberia is on fire too


[22-Aug-19 04:29 PM] ononim#8141
**FUN**


[22-Aug-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all star was actually a horrifying prophecy and now our world's on fire


[22-Aug-19 04:34 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
everything is on fire

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[22-Aug-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/UFKx8Uy.mp4 sound in source

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[22-Aug-19 04:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
haha


[22-Aug-19 04:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
noice


[22-Aug-19 04:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
if only


[22-Aug-19 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
hue


[22-Aug-19 04:52 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also I didnt really hear anything when I clicked the video O:


[22-Aug-19 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
right click on the videos and click on show controls


[22-Aug-19 04:53 PM] illumnious#7938

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[22-Aug-19 05:02 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also could you image If he bought Greenland ?


[22-Aug-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Aug-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/amp/SF-Board-of-Supervisors-sanitizes-language-of-14292255.php

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SF Board of Supervisors sanitizes language of criminal justice system
New “person first” language seeks to take the crime out of criminal pasts, referring to felons as “formerly incarcerated persons” or “returning residents.”
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[22-Aug-19 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-lgbt-marriage/china-parliament-rules-out-allowing-same-sex-marriage-idUSKCN1VB09E

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China's parliament rules out allowing same-sex marriage
Limiting marriage to a relationship between a man and a woman will remain China&...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190821&t=2&i=1421077564&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF7K080


[22-Aug-19 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China is totally a left wing country guys


[22-Aug-19 06:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
China has a parliament?


[22-Aug-19 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rubber stamp.


[22-Aug-19 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gonintendo.com/uploads/file_upload/upload/63101/medium_REV-fortnite_states-map__1_.png

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[22-Aug-19 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Petition to rename "Bible Belt" the "Fortnite Belt"


[22-Aug-19 06:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The other states didn't have enough Fortnite players to be considered obsessed


[22-Aug-19 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
That shit game


[22-Aug-19 07:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worlds-largest-highway-overpass-for-wildlife-on-track-in-california/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/worlds-largest-highway-overpass-for-wildlife-on-track-in-california/
World's largest highway overpass for wildlife on track in California
$87 million bridge will enable all sorts of species to cross in search of food, mates, space without risk of becoming roadkill and aid conservation efforts
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/08/20/cb26d3be-48d0-4a11-a2b6-867740e27d03/thumbnail/1200x630/4c89b051a729b46f8fbe4b3b50ba5ca7/ap-19231608819404.jpg


[22-Aug-19 08:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmvxx_YbDsM

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CBS News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmvxx_YbDsM
Trump roasts Clinton at Al Smith charity dinner
Just one night after the final presidential debate, Donald Trump roasted Hillary Clinton at the Al Smith Dinner. The Catholic charity fundraiser is an opport...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bmvxx_YbDsM/hqdefault.jpg


[22-Aug-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-49429541/amazon-fires-president-jair-bolsonaro-suggests-ngos-to-blame

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Amazon fires: Brazil's president v conservationists
Jair Bolsonaro says NGOs may be setting fires to embarrass the government, despite offering no evidence.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/C54E/production/_108401505_p07l9d0c.jpg


[22-Aug-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/rmeazcmnu0i31.jpg

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[22-Aug-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
Behold, the intelectual elite of the_Donald


[22-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wait


[22-Aug-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought that subreddit got killed


[22-Aug-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
Qara


[22-Aug-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
Uhh qtaran


[22-Aug-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
Fuck how do you spell that one


[22-Aug-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Koran?


[22-Aug-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ctv4jq/trump_ranted_for_35_minutes_in_89degree_heat/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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r/worldnews - Trump ranted for 35 minutes in 89-degree heat, calli...
45,776 votes and 5,457 comments so far on Reddit
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[22-Aug-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
quarantined !


[22-Aug-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ah


[22-Aug-19 09:16 PM] ononim#8141
As in, post from there don't show up on main page and you can search from reddit or search engines only direct link, and it warns you what it's  quarantined


[22-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"we realize these people are all morons _at best_, but keeping them active means they visit other subreddits and view ads there"


[22-Aug-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
As the only true leftist, I am about to ride a train home. By about to I mean in three fucking hours because the most convenient low cost train (at 107$, very cool, Amtrak) leaves at 7.


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Dear Congress, fund more Amtrak.


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>he rides trains


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WALK


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
BE ONE WITH NATURE


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EXPERIENCE THE WORLD


[22-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
>having access to transportation by train


[22-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav 2 train trakks here


[22-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
that run thru town


[22-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
only with cargo


[22-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just buy suv or pickup truck


[22-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah well it's your fault for living in a state with a population density of 0.05 per square mile


[22-Aug-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon I literally will not walk to Michigan from New York with my body weight times three in stuff.


[22-Aug-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_coward_


[22-Aug-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
This way I can at least nap


[22-Aug-19 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Only AnPrims would walk. But if I were an AnPrim I wouldn't be using a phone and Discord.


[22-Aug-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
You are surprised how many of such types were on tumblr


[22-Aug-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
Well, anti-civ at least


[22-Aug-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
I am not sure how fuzzy the distinction between the two


[22-Aug-19 09:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/08/19/jeffrey-epstein-was-sent-three-12-year-old-french-girls-as-birthday-gift/

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Jeffrey Epstein was sent three 12-year-old French girls as ‘birt...
Jeffrey Epstein once had three 12-year-old girls from poor families flown in from France as a sick birthday present for himself, according to newly unearthed court documents.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-three-french-girls.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[22-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird how all the unearthed documents only mention Epstein and not his party guests


[22-Aug-19 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf?


[22-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Real funny that


[22-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bobby Kotick was the surprising one to me


[22-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like he was a mastermind with the power of time control and teleportation to orchestrate all these things by himself and run parties with just him and his victims and literally no one else


[22-Aug-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/614181942409166878/o057x48q30i31.png

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[22-Aug-19 09:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you Dennis Prager, very cool


[22-Aug-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
On a very unrelated note, strongly recommend "The big short"


[22-Aug-19 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/15/751096093/these-experimental-shorts-are-an-exosuit-that-boosts-endurance-on-the-trail

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These Experimental Shorts Are An 'Exosuit' That Boosts Endurance O...
No ordinary pair of shorts, these were designed by Harvard scientists to work with the wearer's own leg muscles when walking or running, and might make a soldier's heavy loads easier to carry.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/08/14/exosuit---recreational---nikos-4051_wide-8d73060f43a2abcc05c8f9bf9a2607c53e49db9c.jpeg?s=1400


[22-Aug-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
How about we demobilize the army for once.


[22-Aug-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Use this in sports


[22-Aug-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want athletes in mech suits eventually dammit


[22-Aug-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
igpx!


[22-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
> "Essentially, we've kind of re-created an artificial muscle on the outside of the human body that's working in parallel with the underlying biological muscle," explains lead researcher Conor Walsh, an engineering professor at Harvard.


[22-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
> artificial muscle


[22-Aug-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
we in crysis timeline now boiz


[22-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not until your briefs say "maximum strength" when fitting them on


[22-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Crow#5457
also, idk why this article is in politics, it has applications that aren't political


[22-Aug-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://crysis.fandom.com/wiki/CryNet_Nanosuit_2

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CryNet Nanosuit 2
The Nanosuit 2 is the second iteration of CryNet Systems' Nanosuit appearing in Crysis 2 and Crysis 3, replacing the older Nanosuit Version One and was introduced four years after the creation of...
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/crysis/images/0/0d/57928_NanoBrochure_final_small_8.png/revision/latest?cb=20090908150459


[22-Aug-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
jesus, all of the shit they put into this thing


[22-Aug-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
it self-regenerates, it absorbs energy from carbon released from decaying corpses somehow, it has theoretically infinite amount of strength


[22-Aug-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
the first suit wasn't nearly as sci-fi as this


[22-Aug-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://crysis.fandom.com/wiki/CryNet_Nanosuit

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CryNet Nanosuit
Nanosuits (also known as Nano-muscle suits) are powerful and extremely versatile sets of tactical-combat armor originally designed to counter the dormant Ceph threat and circumvent the...
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/crysis/images/f/fb/Crynet_nanosuit.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110405124601


[22-Aug-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
this is the original


[22-Aug-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it's also symbiotic


[22-Aug-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
both of them are


[22-Aug-19 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
It shows it in the the first openming


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
well not opening


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gives you a handy for free


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
the stuff they show as game loads


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
I only played the crysis demo


[22-Aug-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tight grip, millimeter precision, complete flexibility, non-chaffing


[22-Aug-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh Far Cry 1 is better


[22-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
now I'm sad that there's no demos for games anymore


[22-Aug-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
have to pay for beta/early access and whatnot now


[22-Aug-19 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As someone that's worked on them


[22-Aug-19 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Game demos are a horrific drain on resources


[22-Aug-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
These days there are streams and YT let's plays and free weekends etc.


[22-Aug-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
why wouldn't it just be a part of the normal development process?


[22-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it isn't


[22-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, why couldn't it just be a part of the normal development process?


[22-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have to tailor-make a part of the game to be representative of the whole product, and be good, and not be full of bugs or missing content


[22-Aug-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
demos usually only cover the first "level" or whatever


[22-Aug-19 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"levels" are an increasingly archaic thing in games


[22-Aug-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even for games that actually use levels, you still have to make custom menus, make sure the progression systems don't exceed the demo levels, and you probably _don't_ want to use the first level, but the third or fourth that have more representative gameplay


[22-Aug-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which means more little custom things done here and there


[22-Aug-19 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And you've got to do all these "little" things while people are still working on the actual game, which not only means taking resources away, but that the "real game" is changing constantly so the demo has to to


[22-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's why I thought it'd just be better to include the demo in the normal development cycle


[22-Aug-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But why


[22-Aug-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People don't play demos and then buy the game


[22-Aug-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They play demos because they're kinda curious and want to play something for free


[22-Aug-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The decision to buy or not is usually made from word of mouth or base interest in the game/genre/setting


[22-Aug-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true, if i download a demo it's rarely to try out the game it's more because iw ant soemthing small and free...


[22-Aug-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[22-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, I bought jedi outcast because of a demo I got in one of those old wrapped magazines that contained discs with a few demos on them


[22-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
and I bought undertale because I tried the demo


[22-Aug-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
and liked it


[22-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's two games


[22-Aug-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How many demos have you played


[22-Aug-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I bought republic commando because of a demo I played too


[22-Aug-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
not very many


[22-Aug-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
I bought warhammer 40k: dawn of war because of a demo too


[22-Aug-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
well, specifically the platinum edition which had all the expansions


[22-Aug-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
I think crysis is the only demo I played that I didn't actually buy the game


[22-Aug-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
it was just another generic shooter, I just kinda liked the backstory


[22-Aug-19 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
with the symbiotic supersuits and whatnot


[22-Aug-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/MG5aTd4.png

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[22-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
boomers found a quisling to shitpost for them


[22-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Older generations didn't really make fun of Boomers that much because they were working too hard to ensure that their children had a better world, which Boomers then trashed


[22-Aug-19 11:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqCx9xU_-Fw

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Philosophy Tube
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Climate Grief | Philosophy Tube
rip 🌍https://www.patreon.com/PhilosophyTube Subscribe! http://tinyurl.com/pr99a46 Paypal.me/PhilosophyTube Wanna get me a gift for the show? http://amzn.eu/5...
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[23-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49439619

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Lightning kills four, injures 100, in Poland storm
The highest number of injuries occurred on Mount Giewont where lightning struck a large metal cross.
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[23-Aug-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The highest number of injuries occurred on Mount Giewont where lightning struck a large metal cross.`


[23-Aug-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/ctvyu8/fake_news_can_lead_people_to_form_false_memories/

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r/science - Fake news can lead people to form false memories after...
46,549 votes and 2,203 comments so far on Reddit
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[23-Aug-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
tons of shit can make people form false memories


[23-Aug-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201822573238026240/614265716081688590/image0.jpg

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[23-Aug-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/458366-border-patrol-anti-vaccine-policy-only-serves-the-virus

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Border Patrol vaccine policy is seemingly crafted to spread the flu
CBP has cited logistical and other reasons for this policy decision. Integrating the facts about influenza and the facts about detention centers, this policy defies logic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/icedetention11292016getty_0_0.jpg


[23-Aug-19 04:41 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Like, this is such a "no shit" question, but isn't this a crime against humanity?


[23-Aug-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They dont give a shit about human rights or crimes agaisnt it


[23-Aug-19 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye had to be judicially ordered to provide items of care to fucking children


[23-Aug-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ICE at this point is basically a torture gang with a sandbox full of  toys to break at their leisure


[23-Aug-19 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is even trying to make it so there;s no limit to how long they get to keept heir "toys"


[23-Aug-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey remember back when people got upset because someone started throwing around the word "genocide"


[23-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was reading the websites of these places that run these ICE centers and I'm like


[23-Aug-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fancy corporate language for running an internment camp


[23-Aug-19 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Lemme just scroll back to `New “person first” language seeks to take the crime out of criminal pasts, referring to felons as “formerly incarcerated persons” or “returning residents.”`


[23-Aug-19 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tale as old as time


[23-Aug-19 06:52 AM] Litrojia#0612
lol


[23-Aug-19 10:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/458481-justice-department-sent-white-nationalist-content-to

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Justice Department sent white nationalist content to immigration c...
A union for immigration judges alleged that the Department of Justice sent an email to all immigration court employees that included a link to an article from a white nationalist website that “directly attacks sitting immigration judges with
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[23-Aug-19 01:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kazakhstan-internet-surveillance/google-apple-mozilla-move-to-block-kazakh-surveillance-system-idUSKCN1VB17Q

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Google, Apple, Mozilla move to block Kazakh surveillance system
Alphabet Inc's Google, Apple Inc and Firefox browser maker Mozilla took ste...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190821&t=2&i=1421234077&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF7K17M


[23-Aug-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Aug-19 03:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/david-koch-dead-at-age-79-report-2019-8

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Billionaire industrialist and conservative mega-donor David Koch h...
Billionaire conservative donor and industrialist David Koch has died, his brother Charles said in a statement early Friday.
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[23-Aug-19 03:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[23-Aug-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/nonprofit-drug-maker-produces-tb-antibiotic-after-private-companies-wouldnt

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Nonprofit drug maker produces TB antibiotic after private companie...
The new antibiotic, called pretomanid and developed by the nonprofit TB Alliance, achieved a 90 percent success rate among patients with drug-resistant TB.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2019/01/NewsWrap9-1024x713.jpg


[23-Aug-19 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a dystopia


[23-Aug-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully his brother soon follows... it;s kind of morbid that i feel happy about someone dying...


[23-Aug-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I really hope david koches children don't follow in his foot steps...


[23-Aug-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like sure become succesful business runners, just don;t be fucking dicks about it...


[23-Aug-19 05:06 PM] Treascair#7785
there's apparently a Koch sister, but she's absolutely a philanthropist and wants nothing to do with the rest of her family.


[23-Aug-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also 2 other koch brothers who got screwed out of the family business


[23-Aug-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like the koch family tree is a big shattered mess


[23-Aug-19 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently Trump is "ordering" all US companies leave China


[23-Aug-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
good luck with that


[23-Aug-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
no, really


[23-Aug-19 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I wish him the best


[23-Aug-19 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's going to take a miracle


[23-Aug-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
"Billionaire David Koch dies after 30-year battle with renewable energy"


[23-Aug-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Renewable energy tolls for Charles Koche next. Says solar farm menacingly"


[23-Aug-19 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/23/monsanto-republicans-cancer-research/

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Emails Show Monsanto Orchestrated GOP Effort to Intimidate Cancer ...
Documents suggest the firm has antagonized regulators and applied pressure to shape research of the world’s leading herbicide.
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[23-Aug-19 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
economy_irl https://i.redd.it/nybcrzsa27i31.jpg

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[23-Aug-19 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/23/investing/dow-stock-market-today/index.html

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Dow drops more than 400 points after Trump tweets on China, Fed
Volatile trading rocked the Dow on Friday, after President Donald Trump responded to new retaliatory tariffs from China and criticized the US Federal Reserve.
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[23-Aug-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market is run by fainting goats


[23-Aug-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't help that Trump called the leader of the federal reserve a traitor


[23-Aug-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then deleted the tweet


[23-Aug-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets

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Donald Trump Deleted Tweets Twitter | Factbase
A searchable database of all tweets that Donald Trump has deleted from his twitter feed.
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[23-Aug-19 06:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/animal-news/watch-bison-stampede-one-slams-tourist-s-rental-car-yellowstone-n1045136

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Watch bison stampede as one slams into tourists' rental car in Yel...
The bison cracked a window and crushed part of the car. "Oh man, there goes some money," someone in the car remarked, noting they had not taken rental car insurance.
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[23-Aug-19 06:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-imran-khan.html

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By SALMAN MASOOD and MARIA ABI-HABIB
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-imran-khan.html
Pakistan Leader Vents Frustration at India: ‘No Point in Talking...
Prime Minister Imran Khan complained bitterly about what he described as repeated rebuffs from India over Kashmir. And he raised the threat of military escalation.
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[23-Aug-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[23-Aug-19 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is he dressed like Han Solo


[23-Aug-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably something about how colors in clothing are for evil spirits and jakkets that cover any more than your torso mean you're hiding a knife.


[23-Aug-19 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Paypal now offers loans...


[23-Aug-19 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone remind me how they're not considered a bank?


[23-Aug-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/james-dyer-journalist-us-border-patrol-lax-airport-fake-news-trump-a9076016.html

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Journalist stopped by US border agent 'for being part of fake news...
'The malignant affect this presidency has had ... is absolutely chilling,' James Dyer says
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[23-Aug-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[23-Aug-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> "He wanted to know if I’d ever worked for CNN or MSNBC or other outlets that are ‘spreading lies to the American people’,” Mr Dyer tweeted of the incident on Thursday. “He aggressively told me that journalists are liars and are attacking their democracy.”


[23-Aug-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The clowns are in control


[23-Aug-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/david-koch-dies-at-79.amp

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David Koch, Billionaire Businessman and Conservative Donor, Dies at 79
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[23-Aug-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
🦀 🦀 🦀


[23-Aug-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/antira/

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Say hello to 'antira,' the far-right's answer to antifa
They think they're on to something.
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[23-Aug-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf


[23-Aug-19 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is this a suicide or self-harm cult? I mean, their org name means "anti-racist" :twismug:


[23-Aug-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well show you anti racism! Let's do it by sending the dirty mexijews back where they came from!"


[23-Aug-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/don-t-worry-i-ll-always-be-here-to-fight-climate-chan-1837480152

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‘Don’t Worry, I’ll Always Be Here To Fight Climate Change,...
SEQUIM, WA—In a speech delivered to supporters addressing the end of his presidential campaign, Washington Governor Jay Inslee announced Thursday that there was “no need to worry,” because he would always be here to fight climate change before ethereally transforming in...
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[23-Aug-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
I love the way they ended this article.


[23-Aug-19 09:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/08/22/severodvinsk-blast-aftermath-karelia-kem-vk-users/

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hecksinductionhour
https://therussianreader.com/2019/08/22/severodvinsk-blast-aftermath-karelia-kem-vk-users/
“Really Frightening”: Trees Dry Up and Toadstools Vanish in Ka...
“Really Frightening”: Trees Dry Up and Toadstools Vanish in Karelia After Explosion near Severodvinsk Guberniya Daily August 22, 2019 Residents of Karelia’s Kem District have soun…
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[23-Aug-19 09:49 PM] ononim#8141
```Residents of Karelia’s Kem District have sounded the alarm. Tree in the district have turned yellow and mushrooms have disappeared after the explosion near Severodvinsk, they claim.

“Ten days after [the accident], the vegetation on the islands in the White Sea near the settlement of Rabocheostrovsk took on a very unhealthy appearance. I get the impression the trees, grass, and moss burned flamelessly. Even toadstools and fly agaric, habitues of these locales, have disappeared on the islands. I would like you to clarify whether any tests will be made, what the republic’s government plans to do in general in response to this issue, and how people’s health will be affected,” a user identified as “Irina Kudryashova” wrote in a letter to Karelian Governor Arthur Parfenchikov, which she also posted on the VK wall “City of Kem Public Oversight.“```


[23-Aug-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/XHF0wqQ.png

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Brazilian Economic Strategy
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[23-Aug-19 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-19 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-Aug-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e923dd004ddb41c8bb5900a82f8c5221

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'Our bigger enemy': Trump escalates attack on Fed chief
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump launched a furious and highly personal Twitter attack Friday against the Federal Reserve and Chairman Jerome Powell, fuming that the Fed once more "did...
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[24-Aug-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[24-Aug-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also ordered corporations over twitter to pull out of china and go soemwhere else


[24-Aug-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's how that works


[24-Aug-19 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also on monday his lawyers tried to get the suit over the NY law allowing the state to release tax returns to congress if asked (congress will not ask) to Washington, because "that is where the damages are," despite, y'know, this being fully within the state's jurisdiction


[24-Aug-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he's the chosen king of isreal, clearly no jurisdiction can cover him


[24-Aug-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, Trump is headed for a total meltdown now over this trade war with china, and the economic recession he;s trying to desperately deny


[24-Aug-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
His followers will follow him right off a cliff if he goes there, but he himself is having a crisis


[24-Aug-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his messiah complex is also gettign worse which coupled with more things gettign out of his control means he's struggling to hold it together as he screams about how he;s the chosen one who should be in control of everything


[24-Aug-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-cancer-supreme-court/index.html

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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg treated for pancreatic cancer
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been treated for pancreatic cancer in New York City, the Supreme Court announced Friday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190724122337-ruth-bader-ginsburg-health-super-tease.jpg


[24-Aug-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's troubling, i hope she pulls through


[24-Aug-19 02:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I don't think I can fathom the idea of Trump getting yet a new SCJ pick


[24-Aug-19 02:36 AM] tellamechress#4600
she better hope she pulls through theres a lot of angry babys waiting for her


[24-Aug-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stevens lived to be 99


[24-Aug-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3e552691e6ae4049b7583465186eec79

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Biden at campaign stop: What if Obama had been assassinated?
CROYDON, N.H. (AP) — Joe Biden pondered a most serious, and awkward, question at a campaign stop Friday: What if Barack Obama had been assassinated during his presidential campaign in...
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[24-Aug-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean kind of right


[24-Aug-19 02:50 AM] tellamechress#4600
open mouth produce gaffe its the biden way


[24-Aug-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can you imagine what would have happened?


[24-Aug-19 02:50 AM] tellamechress#4600
wellllllllllll....


[24-Aug-19 02:51 AM] tellamechress#4600
boy oh boy where to even start


[24-Aug-19 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
macain would have been president, leading to sarah pailin assassinating mccain to gain the presidential seat


[24-Aug-19 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
am i thinking fo the right election?


[24-Aug-19 02:52 AM] tellamechress#4600
I imagine the riots whoud still be going and detroit whoud be a crater


[24-Aug-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicasn would have likely gained a bigger boost as well


[24-Aug-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the wars that bush had started would have been escalated as the oen person who wanted to stop them would be dead


[24-Aug-19 02:55 AM] tellamechress#4600
trump whoudent have happend most likely


[24-Aug-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump probably would have never gotten as much attention as he did, his popularity started with the birther movement


[24-Aug-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tea party would have been far mroe wide spread


[24-Aug-19 02:57 AM] tellamechress#4600
@prism stryder(intexda) you sweet summer child Hillary gave us trump


[24-Aug-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary gave us trump in the 2016 election


[24-Aug-19 02:57 AM] tellamechress#4600
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428

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They Always Wanted Trump
Inside Team Clinton’s year-long struggle to find a strategy against the opponent they were most eager to face.
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[24-Aug-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps boost in popularity started when he began harassing obama for his birth cirtificate


[24-Aug-19 02:58 AM] tellamechress#4600
fair


[24-Aug-19 02:58 AM] tellamechress#4600
but at the time who dident?


[24-Aug-19 02:59 AM] tellamechress#4600
and he got harassed for his tax returns in return


[24-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hillary also got extremely cocky


[24-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she only campaigned in the wealthiest cities, and her hoem state of new york


[24-Aug-19 03:00 AM] tellamechress#4600
and honestly what was her platform?


[24-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he platform was "i;m a woman whose going to be obama 2.0"


[24-Aug-19 03:00 AM] tellamechress#4600
pokemon go to the polls?


[24-Aug-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything she said was vague as shit


[24-Aug-19 03:01 AM] tellamechress#4600
so we shoud have voted for her cause she was a woman?


[24-Aug-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she got cocky because she thought her only obstacle was obama and with him out of the way anyone else would be easily beaten... and thenTrump campaigned in the right combination of states tot rigger the electoral college


[24-Aug-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was better at tapping into redneck fear


[24-Aug-19 03:04 AM] tellamechress#4600
well the Clinton arcapellago is real


[24-Aug-19 03:04 AM] tellamechress#4600
why do you think so many dems are all gunning for thr e-collage to be gone?


[24-Aug-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one thing i kept hearing in the 2016 election was "Trump can't possibly win, he;s never going to pass this obstacle" and thne he jsut kept passign the obstacles because no oen took him seriously and as such no one took preventative measures


[24-Aug-19 03:05 AM] tellamechress#4600
like what?


[24-Aug-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better locational campaigning, not beign cocky, better tv ads maybe


[24-Aug-19 03:06 AM] tellamechress#4600
not haveing bill fly on Lolita express?


[24-Aug-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary basically stuck to the east coast


[24-Aug-19 03:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1165067335604023296?s=21

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Looking forward to being with great leaders in France! Leaving soon. https://t.co/hUd66sKFU2
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[24-Aug-19 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump went all over the place, and  because he had locations of business all over the country he also didnt have to spend much money on travel


[24-Aug-19 03:07 AM] tellamechress#4600
killing more secret service agents?


[24-Aug-19 03:08 AM] tellamechress#4600
i mean we really were stuck with shit choices in 2016


[24-Aug-19 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2016 was a massive dumpster fire


[24-Aug-19 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing that sabotaged hillary wasjsut her buying out the DNCs vote, once that got out her reputation sunk further


[24-Aug-19 03:09 AM] tellamechress#4600
well berny dident really have a chance but yeah


[24-Aug-19 03:10 AM] tellamechress#4600
he is kind of a massive hippocrit


[24-Aug-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie didnt have a chance, but that news made people feel liek the DNC rigged it agaisnt bernie under hillaries orders


[24-Aug-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which made quite a few people vote for trump out of spite


[24-Aug-19 03:10 AM] tellamechress#4600
they probley did


[24-Aug-19 03:10 AM] tellamechress#4600
the woman was the dnc


[24-Aug-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dnc had to actively be purged after that and restaffed


[24-Aug-19 03:12 AM] tellamechress#4600
i really do wonder what whoud have happend if she had won trumps a dumbass but she scares me


[24-Aug-19 03:12 AM] tellamechress#4600
shes a person with deep connections and a thirst for power


[24-Aug-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She would have been quieter, we wouldnt know what she was planning and she likely wouldnt have used twitter for anything other than PR and eamergnecies


[24-Aug-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
She would've had no major legislative reforms and would be currently trying to figure out yet another Syria/Ukraine plan while putting in more ambassadors


[24-Aug-19 03:12 AM] illumnious#7938
Really?


[24-Aug-19 03:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1164978116269395969?s=21

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It’s a new dawn for American energy and manufacturing. https://t.co/UXmn6HYYqF
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[24-Aug-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and she'd probably be torn between legalizing pot and banning violent video games.


[24-Aug-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The usual Democratic bullshit where they like to teeter-totter between actual reform and some bullshit to tide over conservatives because the leadership givs 0 shits.


[24-Aug-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically she would have been status quo bullshit for another 4 years where nothing actually happens


[24-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly. Obama actually cared and tended to side with reform except on foreign matters.


[24-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary was a more conservative alternative.


[24-Aug-19 03:14 AM] tellamechress#4600
well thats the stuff that gets reported on if it dosent generate headlines nobody cares


[24-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She would never hav reduced sentences for African Americans.


[24-Aug-19 03:15 AM] tellamechress#4600
well obama did make my insurance cost more


[24-Aug-19 03:15 AM] tellamechress#4600
i suppose he cared


[24-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
(at least not as a priority, she would've certainly signed the act that Trump did on the matter of finally making the sentence reductions retroactive on crakk)


[24-Aug-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the aca saved my dad


[24-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cash for clunkers should be a regular program and insurance should be regulated to be less predatory


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1165068843443720193?s=21

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[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone driving shitty old vehicles is a serious issue.


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted it was also heavily watered down and chopped up thanks to republican efforts


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] tellamechress#4600
it choud have been done much better though


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially at a time when there are major automotive advances coming.


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately getting anything "done much better" in American politics doesn't happen


[24-Aug-19 03:16 AM] tellamechress#4600
cash for clunkers was bad though


[24-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
"much better" is bad for rich people because it means they end up less able to exploit the situation


[24-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
they intentionally water things down to get minimal reform so that their business model still works


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the "party of no" was paid to be the party of no by corporate lobbyists


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we got the ACA


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romneycare


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of actual healthcare reform.


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It saved a lot of people and improved things, yes.


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it also came with drawbakks and simply didn't fix the core issues.


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ACA was su[pposed to have a lot mroe to it, but the republicans of the tiem kept sending it back demanding mroe be chopped off until it was more or less ineffective against a ot of things


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now it's gonna get nuked by Republicans.


[24-Aug-19 03:18 AM] tellamechress#4600
but dident Romney want it at the state level not federal?


[24-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they've decided that even relatively decent regulations on healthcare are bad.


[24-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, because he was the governor of a state.


[24-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kinda hard to put forward a federal plan when running a state.


[24-Aug-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good regulation means that the insurance companies they work for lose profit on screwing people over


[24-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ACA took the framework of Romneycare and made it at a federal level.


[24-Aug-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It worked fairly decently as far as like, pre-existing conditions and actually getting people to buy healthcare.


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] tellamechress#4600
so then why did he push it through if he knew it was broken?


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any other first world nation would balk at it being a shitty disgrace of half-measures that leaves people still crushed by medical bills, of course.


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why did Obama push it thru?


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it was that **or nothing**


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was fix some major issues and make minor tweaks to a seriously broken system


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
**or let the system be fully broken still**


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because we desperately needed reform and it was still a form of reform evne if it wasnt totally effective


[24-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell of a choice.


[24-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's American politics.


[24-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your burger has flies and human feces on it.


[24-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your options are to remove the flies


[24-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
or not.


[24-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing the flies may result in a small child stealing it sometimes.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those human feces are essential to our economy, according to Mitch McConnell.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] tellamechress#4600
well why not go after one thing at a time?


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1165071131608571904?s=21

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[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So are the small children.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they try that


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it still doesn't work.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch just says the Senate won't vote on X issue.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And...that's that.


[24-Aug-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has become virtually unable to legislate.


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The percentage of support the common person has for legislation has no significant effect on it being passed.


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the top 10% in income, it absolutely has an effect.


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch is basically there to block things from inconveniencing corporations and doners, and trump


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause senators are things you buy.


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who voted is largely irrelevant.


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] tellamechress#4600
true that


[24-Aug-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Koch Brothers own most Republicans


[24-Aug-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Media companies own most Democrats


[24-Aug-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why David Koch dying is big news.


[24-Aug-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one koche brother is dead now but that just means the other has all the power now


[24-Aug-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's hope that maybe these old asshats peeing in the well will go away.


[24-Aug-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But don't hold your breath.


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] tellamechress#4600
and what of the other side?


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of Democrats?


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're less corrupt but harder to get off of corruption.


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the entire idea of the Democratic party


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to gather racist conservative shitheads


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and liberal pot-smoking hippies


[24-Aug-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and make them agree on some minor reform that upsets neither side.


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] tellamechress#4600
LOL


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without threatening the interests of rich people either.


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] tellamechress#4600
divide by zero huh?


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, big talk is made about equality but then Silicon Valley has all the jobs


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both sides like it that way


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a divide by zero


[24-Aug-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a horrific, brutal, winning strategy.


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a strategy under which systemic discrimination is reinforced with a huge scaffolding


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
The so called chosen one


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that reinforcement is removed board by board


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of being destroyed all at once.


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way to make it so that massive societal changes that actually lead us toward equality...are stunted but not removed.


[24-Aug-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need a wrecking ball but right now there;s so many people chained int he way of that wrecking ball in protest


[24-Aug-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Republicans say that they should be removed


[24-Aug-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so as a compromise, they're stunted double.


[24-Aug-19 03:29 AM] tellamechress#4600
by wrecking ball you dont mean a revolution do you?


[24-Aug-19 03:29 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/varneyco/status/1160972036182855683?s=21 he spends too much time on Twitter

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[24-Aug-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean we need to smash the scaffolding like paper


[24-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, crakk vs. cocaine


[24-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are the same damn drug with the same effects in the same doses


[24-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the former is more something blakk people use


[24-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
latter rich whites


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time, a man came to congress and talked about how much worse crakk is on your body, so it needs harsher sentencing


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
senators ate it up


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
much harsher sentences were created in the law for crakk than cocaine


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
said guy was a huge racist


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was found out, got some mild punishment for lying to congress and bullshitting his credentials.


[24-Aug-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Early in Obama's term, congress takkled the sentencing


[24-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they reduced crakk to only a bit more than cocaine


[24-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and did not make it retroactive


[24-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Years later, and Jared Kushner decides to bakk equality advocates and get a bit put in a bill so that it's made retroactive...at a time when basically that no longer matters much.


[24-Aug-19 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1165074050273677312?s=21

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[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sentencing is still unequal.


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://i.redd.it/15l6tpf1dqd31.jpg
saw this and got a chuckle

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[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
racists are being massively catered to


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
with discrimination still enshrined in the law


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] illumnious#7938
Destroy


[24-Aug-19 03:33 AM] tellamechress#4600
@illumnious why are you posting every tweet donald says?


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any actual attempt at reform gets watered down into nothingness.


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the rich do not want reform, ever.


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God Boomers and their box


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reform threatens their power.


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one watches TV


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably talking about CNN


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Trump tweet about CNN


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[24-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump likes to blame CNN for all "fake news"


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fake news doesn't really exist


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Usually


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] illumnious#7938
I never seen a president who spent too much fucking time on fucking Twitter


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] tellamechress#4600
lol but dont you wanna watch the lemon and fredo show?


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Its, did you see the story about a journalist from the UK coming to do a story on the new Star Wars movie, and how he got detained and yelled at about being FAKE NEWS REPORTER?


[24-Aug-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/spectordeforce/status/1164955609512521728

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Don't think Bernie Sanders is effective? He released his climate plan yesterday and ALREADY David Koch is dead
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[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie yes


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why I don't want elected officials to have the same speech rights as citizens


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I swear, congress needs to tamp down the executive's control.


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] tellamechress#4600
and we hang on tritter like its fucking manna from heven


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their words have too much power to speak freely.


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is mitch


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This ability to order your lakkeys


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
to harass journalists


[24-Aug-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and illegally imprison children in violation of the Geneva conventions


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any attmept to tamper down the executive power is being hampered by mitch


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
is not okay.


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hoping Mitch falls over dead soon.


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He may somehow win reelection despite being the most hated senator in congress.


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would prefer *not* a repeat of Epstein


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] tellamechress#4600
why do we care what these people tweet?


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preferably through implosion


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We care because people listen to what he says


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho no doubt it helps that he has prevented the Senate from undertaking any legal action on elections security


[24-Aug-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then does things based on that


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
while the FBI etc. tell him that our elections are under serious threat and are insecure.


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with Trumps tweets and why they;re improtant is because he;s president, these tweets are what the outside nations see


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is america represented


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as well as his cult of personality


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump at times tweets saying he will commit an illegal act.


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or admitting to having done one.


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's the president.


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't be indicted or arrested.


[24-Aug-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is president, his tweets are declarattions of the us president


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just look at the mess he made of the census question


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying on twitter you're going to defy SCOTUS is not okay.


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] tellamechress#4600
but we put so much stock in idle bull that famous people say  not just the presadent


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
All his lawyers said "we're not putting the question in" and then trump tweeted YES WE ARE and the judges went ***HMMMMMM***


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those poor lawyers.


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of them tried to leave the case.


[24-Aug-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the judge wouldn't let 'em


[24-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying you are going to defy SCOTUS is not "idle bull" btw


[24-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a very serious threat that if you were not the president would probably involve a reprimand by SCOTUS.


[24-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also normal people don't say that they are "considering" a course of action


[24-Aug-19 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and don't overlook that within the last 24 hours, our president thanked a known crackpot conspiracy theorist for the "kind words" and then quoted the guy over the next 2 and a half tweets


[24-Aug-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
then when interviewed by the press a day later


[24-Aug-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
say that the idea of that course of action ever being on the table was simply FAKE NEWS being made up


[24-Aug-19 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That should not be okay by any standards as a president, never mind that what he was quoting was the "king of israel" malarkey


[24-Aug-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the second coming of god


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, keep in mind that Trump uses his twitter as some kind of litmus test - he'll usually tweet something once or twice, get a feel for the response, and then say it out loud on TV


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] tellamechress#4600
i really dont see the need for the question myself the state already knows if your a legal us citizen


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
What morons say on twitter matters when they hold a public office and they use it as a weapon to harass their enemies.


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of the question is very simple.


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, asking it makes immigrants less likely to respond


[24-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just look at how many of the shootings we've seen recently have ended with the shooter *citing Trump* and his rhetoric. Using language from his tweets


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea has been floated to exclude amounts of non-citizens for districting


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's say you use numbers not from the census


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
to determine that X% of people here aren't citizens


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then


[24-Aug-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you apply that to the census results, which already excluded X/Y% of people by making them not answer


[24-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where 1/Y is the portion of noncitizens scared by that question into not responding


[24-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're now omitting (X+X/Y)% people from a district


[24-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If X is somewhat large


[24-Aug-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Y somewhat small


[24-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
we could be talking excluding like 15% of people from areas that largely vote Democratic.


[24-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Budging things towards Republican districts by double-dipping in accounting for citizenship.


[24-Aug-19 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh speaking of wrangling statistics, y'all catch that report the DOJ put out the other day?


[24-Aug-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[24-Aug-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[24-Aug-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Headline version: They made a report claiming, bottom-line, "in 1998, 63% of all federal arrests were of U.S. Citizens; in 2018, 64% of all federal arrests were non-US Citizens."


[24-Aug-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using arrest numbers of detaining migrants, I presume.


[24-Aug-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However even a cursory reading of the data in the report shows that they completely neglected to bring that up, and yes they totally did


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in line with Trump's usual propaganda setup on that


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you take that factor out, non-citizen crime is now *lower* than average in all but 3 categories


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, both propaganda and legal justification


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
people dislike those who are categorized as "criminals"


[24-Aug-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and will say that "criminals" cannot be allowed to be in this country


[24-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then he cheats by making it so any overstay of a visa etc. qualifies you as a "criminal"


[24-Aug-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Those categories being drugs, using fake IDs, and parole violations - and only drugs is *higher* than the national average as far as representation


[24-Aug-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus illegitimately gaining the distaste for those who would rob people etc. being given a place to liv.


[24-Aug-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So let's take a closer look at the people we're cracking down on these days. After all, a lot more non-citizens are being arrested and we're seeing less other crime...so *are* we rounding up the bad guys? I mean, Obama was the only president we had in that period who was lax on immigration, but as everyone knows, no one would commit more crimes just because the president said it was okay to. 😏


[24-Aug-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Breaking down the demographics of the groups most targeted by ICE and the population of detention centers, combined with recent policy changes and the resultant statistics mentioned above, I must reach the inescapable conclusion that **the mexican drug cartels are secretly masterminded by children.**


[24-Aug-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heh.


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, any bets on whether someone will shoot up a mosque or synagogue this coming month?


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] tellamechress#4600
or we are enforcing laws made by democrats?


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
My money is on synagogues.


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The laws may hav been written under Obama but their enforcement is different.


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very different.


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That thing with "criminals" was used as a legal justification to change enforcement.


[24-Aug-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama wanted to vary enforcement of deportation with what crimes you did


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, deport people who did felonies


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
leave alone law-abiding people raising families.


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, clearly we've got an issue with our borders, given the massive crackdown ICE just did in *missouri*


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump however made the legal argument that overstaying a visa etc. is a crime


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which as you know is practically in mexico's backyard


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that therefore anyone who can be deported is a priority


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
so now people who are just working a job raising a family, often with US citizen wives and children


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
are being deported


[24-Aug-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
en masse


[24-Aug-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Couldn't have had anything to do with the people being arrested having worked for a company that just listed those people in a class-action lawsuit


[24-Aug-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw, it is much harder than like, in the middle of the 20th century, now


[24-Aug-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, I'm not *saying* that ICE was called in like pinkerton guards to keep them from having to pay out the settlement


[24-Aug-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
to get citizen status based on spousal citizenship


[24-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much at this point we've stopped outright.


[24-Aug-19 03:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the alternative is that ICE used the class-action suit as a way to find all these illegal workers so


[24-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can come to the US, marry a girl here, hav a whole bunch of kids


[24-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thirty years later after multiple attempts to get your citizenship


[24-Aug-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
ICE shows up and sends you to a country you barely remember.


[24-Aug-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also seem to recall some piece of legislation that would prevent people from getting a green card (that is, a permanent residence) if they were signed up for *medicare*


[24-Aug-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
think about that. You wouldn't be able to even begin the process of becoming a citizen if you were taking advantage of welfare


[24-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"taking advantage of"


[24-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
in most countries


[24-Aug-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
having some guarantee that when you are poor


[24-Aug-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you won't fukking die because of a preventable illness


[24-Aug-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
isn't called taking advantage of anything.


[24-Aug-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This was what was at the heart of the controversy over the guy verbally amending the Colossus poem on the statue of liberty, btw


[24-Aug-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
something about not being a "civil burden"


[24-Aug-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and being able to walk on your own two feet


[24-Aug-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure people who are tired, hungry, and poor can just walk around and liv it up without any predatory lending or such...it's not like we liv in a capitalist dystopia.


[24-Aug-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh what's that? Jimmy fell down a well? Looks like we're gonna need to take out a loan with 20% APR or he'll never walk again.


[24-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh? Jimmy is homeless now and requires  a wheel chair?  We need to send in cops with a garbage truck to destroy the clearly drug filled wheel chair!


[24-Aug-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure some wealthy donor will just chip in to fix this.


[24-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind how the organ donor list works...


[24-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, if you can't prove you can pay some ridiculous sum


[24-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are off the list


[24-Aug-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you clearly won't be able to afford the bill etc., so you should die.


[24-Aug-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're a bad investment to be given a new heart etc., eat shit and die.


[24-Aug-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine reading a story to your kid


[24-Aug-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
where there's some fantasy land and like


[24-Aug-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the hero gets a major injury and since he's poor he just isn't allowed to be given treatment.


[24-Aug-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then having to explain that actually other countries *aren't like that*.


[24-Aug-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an absolute huge ball of idiocy the way our healthcare system works.


[24-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's indefensible.


[24-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People dying actually weakens your damn economy.


[24-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People take a long time and a lot of money to raise.


[24-Aug-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just throw them away like that and expect it to work out.


[24-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you accept healthcare as the private domain, it's utterly ridiculous that there is little safety net.


[24-Aug-19 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"And then link got his leg chopped off by a stalfos. Now a fairy might have healed him but because of how the ehalthcare system works in hyrulmerica, He didnt have enough ruppees to afford fairy care and thus he couldnt cpomplete his quest. Ganon won the day and ruled hyrule with an iron fist. The end"


[24-Aug-19 04:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqCx9xU_-Fw

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[24-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one thing to talk about why god allows children to get horrible cancers.


[24-Aug-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's another to talk about why we shouldn't try to save every child who gets a horrible cancer.


[24-Aug-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We shouldnt Try to save thme because God wanted them to die, it;s his plan!


[24-Aug-19 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"and this is the part of the bibel where we learn God is immortla because he harvets child organs and repairs himself with them"


[24-Aug-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, knowing our country, chances are Ginsburg dies like in June 2020 and McConnell rushes in a replacement, who then writes a majority opinion saying that healthcare belongs to the states.


[24-Aug-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with any hope mcconnell dies of blood explosion in the next 2 days


[24-Aug-19 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is blood explosion you may ask? I don't even know


[24-Aug-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Again, I would like McConnell to have to face justice, if only to make up for the missed opportunity on bringing down a house of cards that was Epstein's death


[24-Aug-19 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is mcconnell would never face justice, he has too many pullable strings


[24-Aug-19 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even if all we get is Deripaska I'd be cool with it


[24-Aug-19 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wouldnt need to be slienced with murder, he would jsut walk up to the podium and tell the judges to go fuck themselves


[24-Aug-19 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you wouldnt evne get deripaska


[24-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking christ


[24-Aug-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When was the last time half of the supreme court got replaced in one term


[24-Aug-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah it's no bueno


[24-Aug-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but some good news on the Russia front - seems just today something came out that implicates Don Jr. in the NRA meeting with Kremlin officials and means that he lied to congress under oath


[24-Aug-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it remains to be seen if there are enough people left to care, but here's the thread (once I grab the link)


[24-Aug-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg has the best plan for the Supreme Court @Teaspoon


[24-Aug-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1164714935944974336?s=19

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[24-Aug-19 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shame it would never happen.


[24-Aug-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would also basically mean five people make the real decisions


[24-Aug-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also gonna tl;dr a point not in this headline: The timeline of events and specific people involved indicate that Trump's position on russian sanctions changed/solidified as a direct result of this meeting


[24-Aug-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course, the credibility of this hinges on whether or not you believe Abramson has his facts in order or if he is a conspiracy theorist of monumental caliber


[24-Aug-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know nothing about abramson


[24-Aug-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well the right seems to think he's a hack and a fraud less believable than Alex Jones


[24-Aug-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is hard to beleive


[24-Aug-19 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the alex jones bit i mean


[24-Aug-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well lemme just dig up a right-wing article from 2017 and see what they have to say about him https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/stop-listening-to-seth-abramson-on-donald-trumps-r.html

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Stop Listening to Seth Abramson's Hack Trump-Russia Theories
Abramson seems to have no fucking clue what “reporting” means.
https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/Abramson1main.jpg


[24-Aug-19 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the face of lies and propaganda is calling someone a hack?


[24-Aug-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's possible that they're both propagandists and making stuff up on the fly


[24-Aug-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it's also possible that Trump had no idea that literally everyone around him in the campaign was tied to or talking about working with Russia


[24-Aug-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.axios.com/stocks-plunge-trump-trade-tweet-90a04a0b-0659-4444-aab9-9f7b84530d35.html

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Stocks plunge after Trump's trade tweets
The Dow fell over 200 points in the minutes after Trump's tweets, and it only got worse from there.
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[24-Aug-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[24-Aug-19 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah wait I managed to post the graph without the title or labels somehow


[24-Aug-19 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's better


[24-Aug-19 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can only see trump making things worse form here on out


[24-Aug-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh can you


[24-Aug-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I thought he was the chosen one


[24-Aug-19 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hels the chosen one alright, chosen to crash this ship into the oncoming sirens...


[24-Aug-19 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I seem to remember that in the Matrix, about 5 seconds after Neo was "beginning to believe" he yeeted himself off a rooftop 20 stories onto pavement

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[24-Aug-19 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
looking at that graph reminded me of it


[24-Aug-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TK4OmijOOI

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[24-Aug-19 06:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1h55brABC-/?igshid=4p7t5exgjfth

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[24-Aug-19 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
seeing that timcast video prompts me to respond with this image I stole from this very channel just the other day


[24-Aug-19 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[24-Aug-19 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/7ay6dr9nz9i31.jpg

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[24-Aug-19 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/052e7f4497f14e319ed67cef9f9332cc

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Trump faces limits of go-it-alone stance at global summit
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — President Donald Trump heads into a summit with global economic powers confronting the consequences of his preference for going it alone in a polarized nation and an...
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[24-Aug-19 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/indonesia-deploys-troops-west-papua-region-protests-spread-190820230710563.html

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Indonesia deploys troops to West Papua as protests spread
At least 300 troops arrive in Manokwari as protests spread with reports of a prison break and airport attack in Sorong.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/8/21/a22fb45411bb436b89cfd383b008cf7a_18.jpg


[24-Aug-19 01:52 PM] ononim#8141
```Indonesia has deployed more troops to West Papua as demonstrations calling for the region's independence spread.```


[24-Aug-19 01:53 PM] ononim#8141
```President Joko Widodo's chief security minister, Wiranto, told reporters on Tuesday that Jakarta is deploying more forces to West Papua in anticipation of larger protests on Wednesday across the region.

Video obtained by Al Jazeera showed hundreds of military and police personnel arriving in Manokwari, capital of West Papua province and the scene of violent protests on Monday, while Major General Sisriadi, spokesman for Indonesia's armed forces, told Al Jazeera on Wednesday the military had sent 300 troops to Manokwari.```


[24-Aug-19 01:53 PM] ononim#8141
```West Papua comprises the West Papua and Papua provinces and shares an island with Papua New Guinea.

It was a Dutch colony until the early 1960s when Indonesia took it over; becoming part of the country in a controversial 1969 referendum where only some 1,000 people were able to vote.

An armed rebellion by the indigenous West Papua National Liberation Army has been rumbling ever since.

The region is the poorest in Indonesia, in spite of its natural wealth, and there have been numerous allegations of human rights violations there.```


[24-Aug-19 01:54 PM] ononim#8141
```According to local media, a number of mass organisations had gathered at the Papuan student's dormitory on Saturday - Indonesia's independence day - to confront them about the alleged defilement.

In the confrontation that ensued, racist abuse was hurled at the Papuan students, including the slurs "monkey, dog, animal and pig", according to a press release by Amnesty International. Security forces arrived, locking down the students' dormitory, firing tear gas and arresting the Papuan students.```


[24-Aug-19 01:55 PM] ononim#8141
Daily reminder what Indonesian government commits genocide against West Papua, as it did commit genocide against East Timor, all the while Australian Government complicity stayed silent and profited from the ensured resource extraction


[24-Aug-19 03:03 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/us/david-koch-dead.html 
https://youtu.be/SIKjC5y--Z4

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David Koch is Dead Crab Rave
David Koch is fucking Dead at age 79
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[24-Aug-19 03:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ratio of intentional homicides

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[24-Aug-19 03:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking Greenland...


[24-Aug-19 03:06 PM] ononim#8141
Greenland more like Bloodland


[24-Aug-19 03:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking Vikings, am I right?


[24-Aug-19 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-19 03:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is there a timer that counts time since last school shooting?


[24-Aug-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[24-Aug-19 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dayssincethelastmassshooting.com/ i foudn this

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Days Since the Last Mass Shooting
Number of days since the last mass shooting in the United States.


[24-Aug-19 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's inaccurate


[24-Aug-19 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mass shootings are shootings with 3 or more casualties


[24-Aug-19 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

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Gun Violence Archive
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[24-Aug-19 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Already two today


[24-Aug-19 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's, what, 9AM?


[24-Aug-19 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
10am est


[24-Aug-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dee2567e34ba4b1684c5a4c624e77ab0

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The Latest: Trump defends ordering companies to leave China
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the escalating trade war between the U.S. and China, the world's two largest economies (all times local): 12:35 a.m. President Donald Trump is pushing...
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[24-Aug-19 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
bitch should just do it, then


[24-Aug-19 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
this is how WW3 is going to start


[24-Aug-19 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
someone's going to triple dog dare trump to push the nuke button


[24-Aug-19 05:05 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753662354/putin-to-russian-military-prepare-a-symmetrical-response-to-u-s-missile-test

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Putin To Russian Military: 'Prepare A Symmetrical Response' To U.S...
His remarks come after a U.S. Defense Department test of a modified Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, and the demise of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty between Washington and Moscow.
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[24-Aug-19 05:20 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I had this photo on a cd I made

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[24-Aug-19 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164

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[24-Aug-19 05:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
when I saved these I would have never thought he would still be in and get this far : /


[24-Aug-19 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49460263

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Andrew: I did not suspect Epstein's behaviour
The prince says he wants to "clarify the facts" around his friendship with the late disgraced financier.
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[24-Aug-19 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He didn't suspect a thing


[24-Aug-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Despite meeting at him for parties and "foot massages" for years after Epstein was constantly in the press for kiddy fucking and slavery


[24-Aug-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ok


[24-Aug-19 06:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also the plane pilot and car drivers named him and noticed he usually had the same kid with him. fucker had a favourite. He went back to Epstein for a reason.


[24-Aug-19 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeffrey Epicstein


[24-Aug-19 06:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah um, I have seen the pictures of these parties. There's no way of not noticing that the room is made up of adult dudes, 1-2 women, and a bunch of teenage girls


[24-Aug-19 06:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like it's completely incongruous


[24-Aug-19 06:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZnw6di2sHI

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Professors CREEPILY REPROGRAM Video Game Developers
Video game developers seem to start off as pure fans of video games and development but these professors seem to want to "reprogram" problematic male game de...
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[24-Aug-19 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm going to guess the video is monetized, lists no sources, and is the perfect 12-17 minute format that YT promotes the most


[24-Aug-19 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow


[24-Aug-19 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nailed it


[24-Aug-19 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One minute ad at the start


[24-Aug-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
15:45 minutes long


[24-Aug-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And no sources


[24-Aug-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I am fucking shocked


[24-Aug-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ooh, I missed one!


[24-Aug-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a link to buy branded merch


[24-Aug-19 06:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And a pinned comment from the videomaker at the top, too!


[24-Aug-19 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Youtube needs to burn


[24-Aug-19 06:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the article is shown directly in the video.


[24-Aug-19 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which one would have to watch, ie give views and ad views to, in order to see


[24-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This guy is monetizing anger


[24-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And intentionally trying to make people more angry


[24-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So they become hooked to his anger machine


[24-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So he can pay rent


[24-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It isn't journalism or an actual interest in the topic


[24-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
how do you know if you haven't seen the video.


[24-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it sounds like all you saw was the ad and then left


[24-Aug-19 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"all you saw was the sign saying 'this is a scam' and left"


[24-Aug-19 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I will gladly read through articles


[24-Aug-19 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I will not sit through someone's 12-17 minute long monetized rant


[24-Aug-19 06:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its just him reading a article and then sharing his own thoughts about it.  nothing scamish about it.


[24-Aug-19 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then he can link the article


[24-Aug-19 06:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he shows the article in the video.


[24-Aug-19 06:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but you can message him about him including a link in the description if you want. he does respond to video comments


[24-Aug-19 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame he's made it inaccessible to me


[24-Aug-19 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>commenting on this trash


[24-Aug-19 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
no thx, my recommendations are garbage enough as it is


[24-Aug-19 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't need global search results to include my nick in it as well


[24-Aug-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not finding an article online anywhere


[24-Aug-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hisvideo is the only source i can find on the subject


[24-Aug-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
"We aren't running concentration camps." "Fine, we're running concentration camps, but they aren't death camps." "Okay, we're running death camps, but we're just letting them die of disease, not gassing them."


[24-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fine we'll give them soap, but we arent vaccinating them"


[24-Aug-19 06:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
was gonna read an article on huffpost. This...is new.

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[24-Aug-19 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
very cool of you, huffpost


[24-Aug-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's very cash money of you huffpost


[24-Aug-19 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna click "manage options" just to see what comes up


[24-Aug-19 07:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ultimately, this did https://policies.oath.com/ie/en/oath/privacy/index.html

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Welcome to the Oath privacy centre | Oath Policies
Welcome to the Oath privacy centre | Oath Policies
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[24-Aug-19 07:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think that thumbnail says it all


[24-Aug-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking verizon


[24-Aug-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course itls fucking verizon


[24-Aug-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s always fucking verizon


[24-Aug-19 07:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr we're paywalling everything unless you let us track you


[24-Aug-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
veringular: we're fucking your calls and there's nothing you can do to stop us!


[24-Aug-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
verizon is a cancer


[24-Aug-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/eb7990e10d6549c3a92d773b0ae62a4e

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https://apnews.com/eb7990e10d6549c3a92d773b0ae62a4e
Trump raises tariffs on Chinese goods as trade war escalates
WASHINGTON (AP) — Escalating his trade fight with China, President Donald Trump has raised retaliatory tariffs and ordered American companies to consider alternatives to doing business...
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[24-Aug-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Aug-19 07:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They've had that for months, @WingbeatPony


[24-Aug-19 07:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I guess they only rolled it out recently outside of europe


[24-Aug-19 07:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep seems that way


[24-Aug-19 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The way some sites treat GDPR has done a lot to reduce the number of sites I visit regularly


[24-Aug-19 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If only because it exposes the skeeze


[24-Aug-19 07:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In light of this I have to wonder what AP is doing that they *haven't* fallen prey to this


[24-Aug-19 07:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Click here to manage options"
>is actually just links to 200 different ad services' policies pages


[24-Aug-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/cunosg/is_prison_in_norway_a_valid_safety/

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r/ApplyingToCollege - Is Prison in Norway a valid safety?
903 votes and 16 comments so far on Reddit


[24-Aug-19 07:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, any other news media site out there seems to act like it's impossible for them to exist without a minimum of 80% of screen real estate being ads these days. And then there's AP just chuggin' along, not even raising an eyebrow at people browsing with noscript, adblock, or incognito mode


[24-Aug-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
apnews is broken on my phone


[24-Aug-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
it keeps trying to redirect to an app link


[24-Aug-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AP gets their articles licensed to "news" sites


[24-Aug-19 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't have to bloat their site with 14 ad banners because half the news sites out there will buy their articles and publish them verbatim


[24-Aug-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/scott_helme/status/1165219880733421568?s=21

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Scott Helme (@Scott_Helme)
https://twitter.com/scott_helme/status/1165219880733421568?s=21
Kinda says it all really...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECuxTWyXsAAUDK-.jpg:large
Twitter


[24-Aug-19 07:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
On one hand, this is a simple cert setup problem. On the other hand, something at this level shouldn't have a problem with invalid certs


[24-Aug-19 07:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Talking about cert problems, last week a Huawei modem gave me this problem on all sites.


[24-Aug-19 07:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[24-Aug-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh royals know what the deal is with rich parties with little girls around


[24-Aug-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just they're the exact kind of parties they would've had during the height of the monarchy.


[24-Aug-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's still the same story where they can't admit to doing things that any old commoner would probably spend a long time in jail for.


[24-Aug-19 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Always odd when you find a fox news writer that's probably leftist; not so weird they keep their fox-newsness more on the downlow than the rest
<https://twitter.com/_gonzoAD>


[24-Aug-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not political, and meaningless.


[24-Aug-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
(just the usual family drama, ex-wife looks at husband's bank account allegedly to determine that the family has adequate money)


[24-Aug-19 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
World's first Space Crime and it's lame as fuck


[24-Aug-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah good point


[24-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now when NASA investigates a Russian, shit will hit the fan etc. etc.


[24-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik NASA won't


[24-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah


[24-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Space crimes are judged by the country the criminal is from


[24-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's extradition involved


[24-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
but *Russia*, so


[24-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which I guess will get complicated if it's a murder on the ISS or some shit


[24-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine eventually some Russian astronaut will be looking at kiddie porn


[24-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA will tell Russia and Russia will say that it was nothing of the sort, refuse to hand over any proof, and call the matter closed.


[24-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, I get the feeling that crime in space in the far future is going to have to be a lot lamer than crime today on earth


[24-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
because humanity is super fucked if it doesn't deal with those problems before becoming a spacefaring species


[24-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
i find it more likely a cosmonaut will get caught promoting democratic elections while on the ISS, and then suddenly "get caught" watching kiddie porn


[24-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crime today on earth is mostly saying the wrong thing or doing drugs, Crow


[24-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
there's still a decent amount of murder


[24-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
and stealing


[24-Aug-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Especially in Greenland apparently


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but murder rates even in like the US are barely a blip compared to historical records


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
also @WingbeatPony, you can get around that oath bullshit by plugging in huffpost articles to archive.is


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
We look absolutely boring as far as crime today.


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
we need to be ultra boring by the time we're an actively spacefaring species


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Space crime probably won't be much different.


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just trading murder for petty theft


[24-Aug-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[24-Aug-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could easily expand across the stars while being twice as murderous as we are today


[24-Aug-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You greatly overestimate our capability for mass violence under these conditions.


[24-Aug-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a matter of scale.


[24-Aug-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need crazy levels of violence to actually prevent progress.


[24-Aug-19 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You see, it's like the Balmer curve...


[24-Aug-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, @prism stryder(intexda), found the article that was in that video psker linked https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20812153/youtube-gamergate-education-classroom-teachers-misinformation-reddit-twitter-online-harassment

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The fight against toxic gamer culture has moved to the classroom
Students used to be blank slates — now they arrive with agendas
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[24-Aug-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also humans are incredibly good at spreading places.


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sober gets things done slow, but if you're just beyond tipsy you get nuclear energy and microwaves


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're essentially the most invasive species we know of.


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Beyond that things get bad


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
I just arrow skipped through the video until I found the article title


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
thank god for adblockers


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy shit that URL has so many red flags


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That URL is just buzzwords


[24-Aug-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
the verge, youtube, gamergate, reddit, twitter


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking hell


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure from the title


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
> Students used to be blank slates — now they arrive with agendas


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying that students disobey the Prussian model


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
by arriving already with GamerGate ideas


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
that's the catchphrase on the front page of the article


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
prussian model a shit anyway


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that they then HARASS PEOPLE ON REDDIT


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the Prussian model can't deal with people already having ideas


[24-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it can't actually convince them out of any shit


[24-Aug-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
so everything just doesn't stikk


[24-Aug-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
students have been defying the prussian moddel for decades now


[24-Aug-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agenda or no


[24-Aug-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Start of the article, "`GIGANTIC STYLIZED NON-TEXT LETTER I`t was the phones that tipped off Bo Ruberg."


[24-Aug-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk this shit


[24-Aug-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to write it like a fukking detective novel


[24-Aug-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american teachers are also not very compatible with the prussian model


[24-Aug-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like kids having opinions is a murder


[24-Aug-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
the starting story is about how 11 extra non-students "snuck in" to a classroom and all filmed the professor lecturing


[24-Aug-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you mean walked in and sat down? it;s not that hard with college classes honestly


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It really isn't


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not all classes take attendance


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At least, you can say "I got high, then puffed some stuff and raised apoapsis"


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think I only got carded for entry into a campus once


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
"carded for entry into"


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a lot of the US, campuses are open to the roads and everything


[24-Aug-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
no gate


[24-Aug-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was a protest going on iirc


[24-Aug-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see what this story is doing


[24-Aug-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying that GAMERGATE RADICALIZED THE YOUTH


[24-Aug-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the prussian model isineffective as shit in a non authoritarian country


[24-Aug-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so teachers who want to go full SJUW and say if you ever make a game it should hav no sexy women period, and a female PC


[24-Aug-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
are now afraid to spout the most wild bullshit possible


[24-Aug-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
because they could be held accountable later


[24-Aug-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's trying to tie in implications of nazism with any resistance to SJUW ideals


[24-Aug-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's stupid


[24-Aug-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And at the conclusion it's like "okay maybe Prussian model doesn't work here, who knows what we should do"


[24-Aug-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe teach your fucking students and stop trying to politicise them?


[24-Aug-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's criticizing the Prussian model for failing to make every student politically agree with professors.


[24-Aug-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the prussian model worked i;d be a far right red neck apparently


[24-Aug-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man


[24-Aug-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college proffessors are all right wing trump supporters


[24-Aug-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole campus culture debate is so petty


[24-Aug-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only left wing professors i;ve had were my onlien classes since those werent trade classes


[24-Aug-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is really weird


[24-Aug-19 08:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@Crow can you tell me how 'cause I'm pretty sure I just messed it up. There's now an archived copy of the page as I saw it, with adwall


[24-Aug-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
you have to use the original link to the article


[24-Aug-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
the redirect takes you to a whole other page


[24-Aug-19 08:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I used the link I was provided


[24-Aug-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
what's the URL?


[24-Aug-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
it was working a week ago


[24-Aug-19 08:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
<https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-maddest-week_uk_5d5e4158e4b0b59d256f7076>


[24-Aug-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
I tried changing the co.uk to .com, it archived it but there's no text


[24-Aug-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china/trump-heaps-another-5-tariff-on-chinese-goods-in-latest-tit-for-tat-escalation-idUSKCN1VD21E oh boy 5% more tariffs

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Trump heaps another 5% tariff on Chinese goods in latest...
U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday lashed back at a new round of Chinese tari...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190823&t=2&i=1422102041&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF7M1Z7


[24-Aug-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
byte told me about the workaround, but it seems huffpost broke it


[24-Aug-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
yep, more tariffs


[24-Aug-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
it's starting to seem like trump is purposefully trying to cause a recession


[24-Aug-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
I can't view huffingtonpost anymore because umatrix blocks it due to trying to force a tracking cookie on you


[24-Aug-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'll cause a recession so they'll have to re-elect me so i can undo it!


[24-Aug-19 08:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some back-of-the-envelope math suggests that his tweet the other day crashed the equivalent of $700 *billion* out of the total market capitalization, extrapolating from the dow jones


[24-Aug-19 08:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but hurr durr it's just twitter why should we care what the president is tweeting about


[24-Aug-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure he realizes what a recession is in reality


[24-Aug-19 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s only ever been on the corporate end of one of them


[24-Aug-19 08:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also do keep in mind that the president has millions of dollars in loans that are still reported as outstanding


[24-Aug-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think he thinks he can just buy his way out of a recession... whcih he cant


[24-Aug-19 08:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As far we know, twits are not read by humans, but by botnet.


[24-Aug-19 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no government bail out for you this time, you are the government


[24-Aug-19 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not clear how much he's paid back on them, but that's stuff we could easily find out...from the information he's doing his absolute darndest to keep under wraps


[24-Aug-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
trump literally can't feel the effects of a recession


[24-Aug-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
millionaires only feel slightly uncomfortable


[24-Aug-19 08:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exactly


[24-Aug-19 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
assuming he still technically is one


[24-Aug-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
and he's way past millionaire status


[24-Aug-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
I wouldn't quite call him a billionaire though


[24-Aug-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
more like an aborted billionaire


[24-Aug-19 08:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Did you see the staircase analogy?


[24-Aug-19 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more liek a taxillionaire


[24-Aug-19 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
<https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/cudo09/bernie_sanders_welcomes_the_hatred_of_billionaires/extdljj/>


[24-Aug-19 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ignore OP, read the highlighted comment


[24-Aug-19 08:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As far the history shows, ones in the top are not affected by shit in their country


[24-Aug-19 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
except in cases of violent coup


[24-Aug-19 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is a future I really would prefer avoiding


[24-Aug-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just hoping maybe enough elders will die in congress to fuck things up for trump


[24-Aug-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell included...


[24-Aug-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the issue with that is that politicians have a freakishly long life span


[24-Aug-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly due to all the free healthcare they get


[24-Aug-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
oh no, I haven't seen the stair analogy before


[24-Aug-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think millionaires are upper-middle though


[24-Aug-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure they're definitely at least lower upper


[24-Aug-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coincidentally I was just thinking about how much it would cost to giv every terrorist a job at like, McDonald's and full American infrastructure in Iraq and $700 billion seemed like a good initial estimate.


[24-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I'm sure it's more cost-effective to blow up them and their brother inspiring their cousin to take up arms continuing a cycle of violence and destruction that prevents peace.


[24-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, how could the MIC be wrong?


[24-Aug-19 08:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have one very compelling counterargument to the idea that enough boomers will die off to make the problem easier to deal with: TPUSA and PragerU


[24-Aug-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that time Ben Shapiro lost a debate, and it was actually an interview by a british conservative?


[24-Aug-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who had deliberately made a setup for Ben to explain the premise of his book, but Ben took it as a liberal assault on conservatives being intelligent?


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's less about that and more the "students." It's only a couple years before we start seeing them getting involved and possibly elected in politics


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
I think TPUSA and PragerU are getting hit pretty hard by the memes in the eyes of younger people though


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something tells me TPUSA can't replace much of Boomers.


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
like at most there'll be 10% of the number of millennials who believe like the boomers, and like 2% of gen Z


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@WingbeatPony  and after coup, another one takes the place and it can be said "awww, shit here we go again"


[24-Aug-19 08:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so we back in the mine


[24-Aug-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue is just lobbyists running for political positions


[24-Aug-19 08:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyhow, I think it's less that they'll form some kind of majority, or loudspeaker majority, and more that they'll continue to be convinced that these ideas work


[24-Aug-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
MIC?


[24-Aug-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
methyl isocyanate?


[24-Aug-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Military Industrial Complex


[24-Aug-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
gdi more people need to listen to Eisenhower.


[24-Aug-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
He definitely got it wrong that assaulting gov't programs that help people is a losing strategy, but he kinda had it right otherwise.


[24-Aug-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tho tbf


[24-Aug-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the South has always been underestimated at its ability to undermine Democracy and anything that actually helps people instead of hurts them.


[24-Aug-19 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, think about it. For those TPUSA kids who attended the President's speech, how many of them do you think believed every word he said? How many, if they did have doubts, how many of them do you think would go and fact-check anything they heard? How many of *those* would fact-check using sources outside the Kirk bubble?


[24-Aug-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not a lot


[24-Aug-19 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then go back and look at what the president said, and I think it'll be obvious what the problem is


[24-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will always be a slight nuisance.


[24-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
However I suspect most of them won't make it thru college.


[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
There won't be many actually running for office when it comes time.


[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Law school isn't something you easily get thru without the ability to think.


[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's often necessary to get into congress or the judiciary.


[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am intentionally linking a breitbart article here for the perspective of it. If you wish to not give them the ad impressions, I'm sure you know a way around that https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/07/23/donald-trump-tpusa-student-activists-your-time-now/

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President Donald Trump thrilled student activists at the TPUSA Summit on Tuesday, urging them to strive for greatness.
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[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people "studying" prager U and turning point mostly live in rural areas as well and those are becoming less financially succesful


[24-Aug-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Combine that with less schools taking bribes in the wake of scandal and it's a hard road.


[24-Aug-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the conservatives with a chance at politics in the future will be from already wealthy families, and children of lobbiers


[24-Aug-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they get less intelligent as time goes on


[24-Aug-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because thye replace their brain with money


[24-Aug-19 09:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
who do you think we're talking about here?


[24-Aug-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservative young folk in general


[24-Aug-19 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sure as fuck isnt the rich attending trump rallies


[24-Aug-19 09:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How much do you think it cost for those kids to be at that presentation? *Someone* was footing the bill


[24-Aug-19 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well given the shell thing, probably their parent;s companies


[24-Aug-19 09:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
exactly


[24-Aug-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
specifically the companies their parents work at not the parent's owning the companies


[24-Aug-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also crowd funding


[24-Aug-19 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's the thing: No one really works their way to being rich in this country anymore. The only way to do it is for some other rich person to decide they want you in the in-group


[24-Aug-19 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what grooming point usa is all about


[24-Aug-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
uh


[24-Aug-19 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
basically no one ever worked their way to be rich


[24-Aug-19 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean maybe a couple people


[24-Aug-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/are-tickets-to-trump-rallies-free-heres-how-much-it-costs-to-attend-a-trump-rally.html/ apparently trump rally tickets are free but you cna only get them through a TRUmp website

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Donald Trump is hitting the campaign trail in support of Republican candidates ahead of November’s midterm elections. But is attending a Trump rally free? Here’s what you'll pay to attend one of Trump’s “Make America Great Again” rallies.
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[24-Aug-19 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
but the rest were born into wealth or knew the right dicks to suck


[24-Aug-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You read that right. If you’re interested in attending a “Make America Great Again” rally, you won’t have to pay a cent. Tickets are completely free.

However, you will need to get tickets ahead of time if you hope to attend a rally. To do that, go to the Trump campaign website, select “Rallies” from the top navigation, and choose the event you want to attend.

You’ll need to provide your first and last name, email, mobile number, zip code, and state to get your tickets. You can request two tickets per phone number for each event


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh I know, but I said it that way 'cause that comment is directed at those of the mindset that the american dream *can* make you rich


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american dream is dead as shit


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it was never alive


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
people still believe it though


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american dream started dead as shit


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
your history textbook is a collection of misleading half-truths


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american aborted fetus


[24-Aug-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
american history textbooks are horrible


[24-Aug-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
american textbooks are horrible


[24-Aug-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really are


[24-Aug-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally sold by the pound


[24-Aug-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even thenon history ones


[24-Aug-19 09:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ofc with the advent of every kid getting a school-issued laptop I'm not sure how that lines up anymore, but that was 100% true at the time I went through the K12 program


[24-Aug-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have to pay tons for a textbook ecode


[24-Aug-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so instead of pounds thye chaRGE BY THE CONVenience


[24-Aug-19 09:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what I meant was, the pricing for physical textbooks was based on the physical size. That's why math books went from pocket-sized primers to lethal weapons with color photos that barely fit in a backpack


[24-Aug-19 09:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
same amount of math, same number of problems even, just a ton more fluff


[24-Aug-19 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Follow up on the planforbritain site


[24-Aug-19 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://planforbritain.gov.uk/


[24-Aug-19 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
:faceclaw:


[24-Aug-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
nice


[24-Aug-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hvac textboosk are the same


[24-Aug-19 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
`It works!`


[24-Aug-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the answer key is a seperate thousand dollar book you cna only buy on amazon


[24-Aug-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
hvac textbook... for systems engineers, right?


[24-Aug-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope field technicians

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[24-Aug-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of this fucking book is pictures


[24-Aug-19 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
most of this is going to be field knowledge anyway


[24-Aug-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not even diagram type pictures, like jsutpictures of tools and units


[24-Aug-19 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s a fucking massive book that woudl liekly only be a quarter of it;s size without the pictures


[24-Aug-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should see about gettign a photo of it for proper size comparison


[24-Aug-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to fuck the duck even further this is the other book i had to buy that was pretty much the same text book thatls the same size that has just as many picxtures

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[24-Aug-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
its not exactly rocket science


[24-Aug-19 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even the BSA merit badge books on welding had better diagrams of a welding station.


[24-Aug-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it isn;t and yet i still had to buy thew books for the class


[24-Aug-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they had me buy the same book twice


[24-Aug-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you want good diagrams, try philosophy.

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[24-Aug-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
This isn't even the worse, I can find more meme-worthy ones.


[24-Aug-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also had me buy this which isnt a bad book in itself but it;s a bad textbook in that it doesnt actually discuss the systems in question more the history behidn them

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[24-Aug-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it actually has a decent biographical kinda narrative but it doesnt really teach me about geothermal hvac


[24-Aug-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That looks incredibly stupid.


[24-Aug-19 09:25 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457

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[24-Aug-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
this is what I get from umatrix when navigating to huffpost


[24-Aug-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
and the archive.is workaround doesn't work anymore :/


[24-Aug-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is this from 20-21st century?


[24-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457

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[24-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
shrek is in my calculus book


[24-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[24-Aug-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love that they pulled a factoid out of their ass to justify the use of shrek


[24-Aug-19 09:37 PM] Crow#5457

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[24-Aug-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457

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[24-Aug-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
at least the diagrams in 16.6 aren't just images of shrek lol


[24-Aug-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if the black panthers will ever make a return


[24-Aug-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
I know that there's some "new black panthers" movement, but they just seem like thugs instead of a movement to enforce equality


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
whatever happens it'll be labeled antifa


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blacktifanthers


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and used as evidence that the whole lot of 'em are terrorists


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
black mexican gun owners


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Black Antifthers?


[24-Aug-19 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
scare the NRA shitless


[24-Aug-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll steal your bicycle and use it for gun money.


[24-Aug-19 09:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hot take: We should lift the ban on "assault weapons" and ban handguns instead


[24-Aug-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they'll shoot well-meaning nazis.


[24-Aug-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/darrenkaplan/status/1165287504985174019?s=21

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New York's "Red Flag" law goes into effect today. If you are a family or household member of someone who is threatening serious harm to themselves or others, you can now petition a court to have their firearms removed from their possession.
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[24-Aug-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
🇫


[24-Aug-19 10:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3VA9pZ_kY0
what these "red flag" laws make me think of

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The Nightwatch
a few weeks ago, i saw a PSA from Homeland Security supremo Janet Napolitano (link below) which reminded me of this clip from season 2 of Babylon 5. here's t...
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[24-Aug-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/24/far-right-groups-infiltrated-uk-nuclear-submarine-crew

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Far-right activist posted to serve on Trident submarine
Member of Identitarian Movement ‘due to start work on Navy’s nuclear Trident sub’
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[24-Aug-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0007rv1

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The Now Show - Series 55 - Episode 1 - BBC Sounds
Special edition of the Now Show coming from the BBC Hub at the Edinburgh Fringe
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[24-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's amazing to see Babylon 5 of all things misinterpreted


[24-Aug-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the whole thing with the Nightwatch was they were an *armed* group that went around extralegally to threaten people


[24-Aug-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looking to keep people loyal to the big guy in charge of the gov't who rose to power thru incredibly suspicious means


[24-Aug-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the more local gov't finally went in and took their guns and told them they couldn't threaten people


[24-Aug-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the more local gov't puts in a law that says you can get your relatives disarmed if they're threatening people in an environment where the big guy in charge of the gov't rose to power thru suspicios means and demanding loyalty...


[24-Aug-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you go "well clearly this is like the Nightwatch!"


[24-Aug-19 11:21 PM] ononim#8141
(Police is an armed group too, just putting that out there)


[24-Aug-19 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how long it'll be until groups promote wearing armbands again without it being Hrmm...

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[24-Aug-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s gonna be the proud boys


[24-Aug-19 11:25 PM] Treascair#7785
Too late, they already are.


[24-Aug-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Babylon 5's officers were also armed.


[24-Aug-19 11:26 PM] Treascair#7785
As for B5 and the Nightwatch comparison... we don't *need* a Bester, thank you very much!


[24-Aug-19 11:26 PM] Treascair#7785
... now I wanna rewatch B5.


[24-Aug-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole telepath thing was just crazy.


[24-Aug-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of surprised there;s no maga armband


[24-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably a size variance thing


[24-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
armbands that are too big fall off


[24-Aug-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
that doesn't happen with hats.


[24-Aug-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Velcro


[24-Aug-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But yeah, MAGA hats are effectively armbands now


[24-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I'm racist and want poor people to die and proud of it or too stupid to realize :^) "


[25-Aug-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-says-it-mistakenly-emailed-link-white-nationalist-website-n1045526

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Justice Department says it mistakenly emailed link to white nation...
"The Department of Justice condemns Anti-Semitism in the strongest terms,” the spokesperson said.
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[25-Aug-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd almost believe them if they weren't lying


[25-Aug-19 03:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It takes at least 4 mistakes for that kind of a fuck up to be a mistake. Accidentally copying a White nationalist website URL, Accidentally pasting or typing the white nationalist link, having that link in an email and selecting who you want to send it to, having that link in an email addressed to people and accidentally pressing send.

I made an oopsie.

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[25-Aug-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I made this oopsie 200 times!


[25-Aug-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It was an oopsie poopsie!


[25-Aug-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well if you go by their alibi - that the email list was automated - that would account for it being non-malicious


[25-Aug-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However it is still *exceedingly* negligent


[25-Aug-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, their excuse is basically that they're using DOJ resources to spam inboxes every monday with a worse version of Google news


[25-Aug-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and not only that, but that the automated system was set up without a whitelist of sources


[25-Aug-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, of course, that said system was so automated that no human being reviewed the list before the mail system fired it off


[25-Aug-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's possible. It's entirely believable. It is, in fact, better than if they'd included it intentionally. But it is still inexcusable.


[25-Aug-19 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/be18b8619cde4658a418dda4f416968a

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Powerful, obscure law is basis for Trump 'order' on trade
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — President Donald Trump is threatening to use the emergency authority granted by a powerful but obscure federal law to make good on his tweeted "order" to U.S. businesses to...
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[25-Aug-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
At some point congress needs to repeal some old laws


[25-Aug-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
take away a lot of presidential authority


[25-Aug-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but then they'd have to get rid of all the authority Mitch has hoarded like a prepper eyeing that next case of MREs


[25-Aug-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just get rid of mitch isntead?


[25-Aug-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have to kill him, just drop him off blind folded in the sahara or soemthing, i;m sure he'll be fine


[25-Aug-19 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just take away his federal health insurance


[25-Aug-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/LeBICnk

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[25-Aug-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again I argue for an Executive Council and question whether EOs are constitutional.


[25-Aug-19 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any worry about slowing down the effiency of the executive branch is basically irrelevant now. If we have to have our president in a DC jail, so be it.


[25-Aug-19 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We were supposed to have political movements that prevented that from happening.


[25-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[25-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you ever like, listening?


[25-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
EOs being unconstitutional in and of themselves makes no sense.


[25-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize that the structure requires the executive be able to **communicate** with itself at least.


[25-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell do you enforce laws if you can't make decisions on the methods to enforce them with?


[25-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's WHAT EOS ARE


[25-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, an EO that says to "enforce" the "law" in a way that effectively writes in something that is completely against the actual written law, that's overstepping bounds for sure, but the chevron defense is an actual thing that has to exist, the executive may enforce the law in any way that's within what congress wrote.


[25-Aug-19 07:02 AM] byte[]#2610
politicians don't refactor laws like programmers refactor code


[25-Aug-19 07:02 AM] byte[]#2610
be nice if they did


[25-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because they aren't paid based on how the laws work.


[25-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're paid based on who they divert money to.


[25-Aug-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's always better to ignore problems and just secure funding for X project.


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
what if there was alike


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
a code linter


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
but for laws


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
that shows you potential errors in the text


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress would write a law changing how it works


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
and reports cyclomatic complexity metrics


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do keep in mind


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans made the CBO


[25-Aug-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the express purpose of actually providing independent numbers to say Democrats are spending money they don't hav by completely ignoring indirect benefits to society


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Republicans went and spent money that couldn't possibly be made up for by rich people getting it


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't some nordic country start uploading all their legal documents onto github


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
without listening to the CBO


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah I think so


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
that sure is a permanent record of the law if I ever knew one


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
git is almighty


[25-Aug-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local gov'ts in America are starting to turn to github now


[25-Aug-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC Washington DC has all its laws on github


[25-Aug-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it mainly is done actually because there are all sorts of stupid fukking errors in how the law gets out after the politicians write it.


[25-Aug-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, linting that is a herculean task


[25-Aug-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
even with how precise legalese is


[25-Aug-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's often intentionally written poorly and English is a terrible language for it.


[25-Aug-19 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
use AI /s


[25-Aug-19 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
that'll surely work


[25-Aug-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it'll never solve the core problem


[25-Aug-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
that laws are never revised except when a politician wants something.


[25-Aug-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
We would need a system whereby politicians are rewarded for measurable improvements to society traced bakk to their voting record.


[25-Aug-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if we had a complete idea of such a system, Mitch McConnell would prevent it ever being voted on for implementation.


[25-Aug-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
that wouldn't stop conservatives


[25-Aug-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives think reintrodcing hierarchy is a measurable improvement to society


[25-Aug-19 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
you could be more specific and require metrics about income vs expenditures, type of dwelling, salary compared to national avg


[25-Aug-19 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
and remember there's


[25-Aug-19 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
lies


[25-Aug-19 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
damn lies


[25-Aug-19 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
statistics


[25-Aug-19 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
so


[25-Aug-19 08:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/aea805efb3f842c38680b523018263bb

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N. Korea tests new 'super-large' multiple rocket launcher
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Sunday leader Kim Jong Un supervised the test-firing of a "newly developed super-large multiple rocket launcher," another demonstration of its expanding...
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[25-Aug-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/08/22/proud-boys-leader-admits-rallies-all-about-brawling-costing-millions/

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Proud Boys leader admits rallies all about brawling, costing ‘mi...
Proud Boys rallies are all about brawling with anti-fascists and wasting the public’s money, the group’s leader has been caught on video admitting. The video was posted by Huffpost.com …
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[25-Aug-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/rarecandy17/status/1163827738584801281

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rare candy (@rarecandy17)
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@GranolaNutMix @egoldmanrevolt https://t.co/RpGKHsKCNF
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[25-Aug-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
basically, they aren't holding rallies to fight antifa, they're holding rallies to waste city money and resources


[25-Aug-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck the proud boys


[25-Aug-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have no pride


[25-Aug-19 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As suspected


[25-Aug-19 02:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Antifa are purely reactionary anyhow; they basically won't show up unless someone is being provocative


[25-Aug-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/06f366787f0d4bd69396e5519526e897

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White House says Trump regrets not raising tariffs higher
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — President Donald Trump said Sunday that he had second thoughts about escalating the trade war with China, but the White House later reversed that message saying the...
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[25-Aug-19 03:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so whats been going on with the g7 sumit ?


[25-Aug-19 03:18 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I've hardly heard anything from my news stuff


[25-Aug-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f19d28009bc94db387ac238dffa27348

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G-7 cracks emerge on Iran as Trump contests French role
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — The first fissures emerged among G-7 leaders on Sunday over how to deal with Iran, as U.S. President Donald Trump denied he had signed on to an agreement on giving France a...
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[25-Aug-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/580af6ad372745668a14cffec45fd087

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Democrats quash climate debate push from activists
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The Democratic National Committee on Saturday quashed a push from climate activists and some national party members who want a 2020 presidential primary debate devoted...
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[25-Aug-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the G7 news just seems to be Trump going around being a dick to other leaders and egging johnson on


[25-Aug-19 03:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah Ive heard :v


[25-Aug-19 03:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats why Id thought to ask here to see If anyone has anything different


[25-Aug-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen much outside of that


[25-Aug-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/65079e615e484a62866a9751924ec300 there's this oen but i think that'sstill about trump beign a dick partly

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Best the G-7 can do for global economy: not make it worse
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — The global economy craves a double shot of confidence right now. The most the leaders of the Group of Seven can offer is likely to be a less intoxicating cocktail: the...
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[25-Aug-19 03:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
eugh


[25-Aug-19 03:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
basically nothin then : p


[25-Aug-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[25-Aug-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the g7 is a mess


[25-Aug-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i feel leik it will become even mroe of a mess in comign years as atleast 2 more countries vote in their own trump clones as leaders


[25-Aug-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does canada have a Trump clone?


[25-Aug-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people like johnson, and bolsanaro


[25-Aug-19 04:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well Trudeau isn't a fat, old imbecile, but he's certainly unpopular


[25-Aug-19 04:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder that this is a banger: https://youtu.be/nQWBH71UDFM

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IWW Song Lyrics|Hold The Fort
For Those Interested In Fiction: Read My Fiction Work Here: https://tinyurl.com/NovelCollection Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=8107447 Email: Laikaa...
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[25-Aug-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/MmPtfy9P714

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The Onion
https://youtu.be/MmPtfy9P714
Florida To Experiment With New 600-Lever Voting Machine
MIAMI—Responding to widespread criticism of voting procedures that have plagued the state since the 2000 election, the Florida Elections Commission announced...
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[25-Aug-19 05:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. *Multiple* rocket launcher.


[25-Aug-19 05:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Just incase they blow up America but it isn't enough. :shrugpony:


[25-Aug-19 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for when they also need to blow up parts of the UK and europe as well


[25-Aug-19 05:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Aug-19 05:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Gosh, I'd hate to hear what this guy has to say about the government mandating all American businesses to stop doing business with China


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sorry, not mandating, "hereby decreeing"


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is phil pot?


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they meant Pol Pot


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dr. Phil's actual name


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Truth is


[25-Aug-19 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's secretly a mass murderer!


[25-Aug-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dr.phil was the zodiac killer all along!


[25-Aug-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ted cruz was a red herring


[25-Aug-19 05:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
i love butter

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[25-Aug-19 05:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[25-Aug-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i watched a google translate video with the autovoices, and now i jsut read all of ted cruz' lines in windows robot voice


[25-Aug-19 06:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uScFygXHZY

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Tim Pool
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We Are Trapped In Trump World, The Media OBSESSION Is Carrying Him...
We Are Trapped In Trump World, The Media OBSESSION Is Carrying Him To 2020 Reelection. They say that the media provided Donald Trump with billions in free pr...
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[25-Aug-19 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, for once, there's a timcast headline I can get behind


[25-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/08/22/there-s-no-danger-get-to-work

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‘There's no danger. Get to work.’ Following a radioactive inci...
On August 8, at a launch site in Russia’s Arkhangelsk region, a rocket engine exploded. Two days later, state officials acknowledged that the accident resulted in a radiation leak. The victims in the explosion were taken to a hospital in Arkhangelsk, where the radioactive n...
https://meduza.io/imgly/share/1566483414/en/feature/2019/08/22/there-s-no-danger-get-to-work


[25-Aug-19 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chernobyl season 2 is looking great


[25-Aug-19 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`At Burnazyan, they found cesium in one of my colleagues. He’s a young man, and his wife is currently pregnant. At the medical center, they asked him where he’s gone on vacation in the past few years. He started listing all the places, and said he’d been to Thailand at some point. When they heard this, they said where there’s Thailand, there’s Japan: “You must have eaten some Fukushima crabs!” The man had been in contact with cesium for several hours, he’d participated in surgeries [with irradiated patients], and he’d stood over the patients without a respirator mask. Then he goes in for an examination, and they tell him: “Oops, well, it’s your own fault. You brought it home from Thailand.”`


[25-Aug-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course russia is pretending there's no radiation emergency


[25-Aug-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i especially love that fact that putin called for an evacuation and then immediately cancelled the order so he could pretend it isn;t happening


[25-Aug-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the peasants will die off in a few days anyway


[25-Aug-19 08:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Looks like Turning Point is using deep fake software to make people. They should have used more current day images. These 2 look like they are from the 70s or 80s. https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1164958361059831808

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https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1164958361059831808
The Grant sisters don't pull any punches in tackling questions around Ireland and Brexit. Watch!

@missalicegrant  @BeatriceGrant_ #Brexit #Irexit #Backstop https://t.co/j0IJVuHcbu
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[25-Aug-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
toilet paper UK


[25-Aug-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/steveguest/status/1165004034786439169?s=21

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Steve Guest (@SteveGuest)
https://twitter.com/steveguest/status/1165004034786439169?s=21
Joe Biden in Hanover, New Hampshire on his health care plan: "We’ll make sure it’s not quality. We'll make sure it's only affordable."

Yes. You read that right. https://t.co/218chQlIeA
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[25-Aug-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Aug-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At this point he isn't just shooting, he's dropping nukes on his foot


[25-Aug-19 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want quality you have to mortgage your hobo tent!


[25-Aug-19 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
gaffe biden


[25-Aug-19 08:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That rocket wasn't radioactive as Chernobyl reactor intexda,it would probably take years or even decades to kill someone.


[25-Aug-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, the real reason putin probably cancelled the evacutationw as to study the effects of the radiation on the people in the area.


[25-Aug-19 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's useful knowledge to have when trying to reboot the cold war after getting the president oof america to tear up the treaty preventing it from continuing


[25-Aug-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/458704-king-doubles-down-says-rape-incest-should-not-be-factored-in-to-abortion and steve kiong has doubled down on his position

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Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) doubled down Saturday on his remarks criticizing abortions conducted in responses to cases of rape and incest.
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[25-Aug-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/leaked-fbi-documents-raise-concerns-about-targeting-black-people-under-black-identi-1 unsurprsing but still...

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Leaked FBI Documents Raise Concerns about Targeting Black People U...
NEW YORK - Leaked FBI documents were published by The Young Turks shedding light on how the FBI surveils Black people based on the baseless ‘Black Identity Extremist’ designation.“These documents show the FBI wasted resources to target Black people because of protected ...
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[25-Aug-19 10:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh hey, they've actually been targetting black people. We knew that. 🤷 🙄


[25-Aug-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) funny how Murican conservatives claim to love all children equally, yet they lock up Mexican children away from their parents and aren't too seemingly fond of adopting children as that'd be too much responsibility for them to handle


[25-Aug-19 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Republicans love complaining about taxes and welfare queens and whatever, but when push comes to shove, they're the one political group most devoted to make other people pay the price for mistakes they themselves made


[25-Aug-19 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1165667306200010752
https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1165667831784071169

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going from reading the bell curve's prediction of a 'cognitive elite' rising to the top of society to reading a news story about donald trump talking to boris johnson is a whole trip
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the bell curve failed to consider that one day we could read billionaires' twitter accounts and see that there is absolutely nothing cognitively elite about the 1%
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[25-Aug-19 11:08 PM] Macarou#9574
Exciting


[26-Aug-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
"cognitive elite" is another way of saying that intelligent people shouldn't be in charge


[26-Aug-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
aka there shouldn't be a science-based government


[26-Aug-19 12:11 AM] ononim#8141
Bell Curve is a book advocating for "scientific" racism


[26-Aug-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it seems like modern American politics is just a whole bunch of people trying to commit political suicide and missing


[26-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Will THIS make me unelectable? Satan has his money on yes, so does God...shit.


[26-Aug-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, the GOP'll set someone up as a fall guy, that person doesn't take the fall, the task fails successfully, +1 to audacity


[26-Aug-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Satan crying in a corner about what horrors he's unleashed, tries to tempt people away from the ridiculous evil but it just doesn't work.*


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point it's a game of one-upping the other guy


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile Biden is over here spouting unelectable quotes left and right, Pelosi seems determined to put a pin in impeachment right up until it looks like a hedgehog...


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only move left is to say you raped children


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that if you were Epstein, you'd get a BETTER plea deal (Epstein's plea deal was the best one ever given in the history of law)


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Isn't that practically where we are with King?


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, he hasn't done the raping yet.


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
"boys will be boys"


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv it 10 years.


[26-Aug-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
"I was drinking, and we were 16"


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"yeah, but they looked 14, hur hur"


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or let Trump do it


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
drinking doesn't make people fly off the handle with repressed sexual desire


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump eventually will just spurt out that Epstein was "a great guy"


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
but it does make assholes act like assholes


[26-Aug-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
forgetting that everyone knows


[26-Aug-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I've also noticed that Trump communes with the dead pretty frequently


[26-Aug-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Trump will eventually say that "so what? we all did that back then" etc.


[26-Aug-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then we'll hav a president literally defending rich people raping coerced children at parties.


[26-Aug-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[26-Aug-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump said Epstein had "a similar taste in women"


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
"but liked them on the younger side"


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He **knew** Epstein was fukking kids


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He *approved of it*, implicitly.


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just hasn't said it explicitly.


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The President of the United States has raped children at lavish parties and ambigously referred to knowing about it.


[26-Aug-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let that sink in.


[26-Aug-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're a stone's throw away from an elected official outright saying they like 'em young.


[26-Aug-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could do it tomorrow.


[26-Aug-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would fall into line.


[26-Aug-19 12:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I keep going back to that thing about how the retribution for the Magnitsky act was to hit 'em in the adoption line


[26-Aug-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd say that Epstein's suicide was tragic.


[26-Aug-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That New York overstepped its bounds


[26-Aug-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that his plea deal should've protected him forever from any prosecution in all jurisdictions.


[26-Aug-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The *only* reason they aren't doing this right now is Trump hasn't given the signal.


[26-Aug-19 12:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We may be waiting on Barr to wrap up his song and dance on epstein


[26-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
All it'll take is someone he's good friends with being turned up in the probe.


[26-Aug-19 12:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We've already gotten a couple instances of random mooks being brought to justice, a couple compulsory cries of shock and outrage, and new developments are being buried under it all


[26-Aug-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His second in command has vanished into the night with only a photoshopped sighting at In-n-Out in her wake


[26-Aug-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
By the time that was cleared up (it hasn't been), people were already fatigued by the story and the will signed 2 days before his death is being met with apathy


[26-Aug-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention, ofc, the curious happenings on his island, like all the computers being removed before the FBI searched the place, or a highly unusual expedited delivery of concrete to the property


[26-Aug-19 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sure, it's a bit tinfoil hat, but it *shouldn't need to be.* It's the kind of thing where we shouldn't even have to wonder about it in the first place


[26-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're asking for accountability in the US prison system.


[26-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're at a point where a major presidentical candidate can make a flub indicating he believes poor people don't deserve quality healthcare


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
only "affordable" healthcare


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
by which he most likely means a high price, but like 10% of their income instead of 40%


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a world where it'd be free practically anywhere else.


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking at the websites of these ICE detention centers and I'm like


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This country is massively broken.


[26-Aug-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of corporate language to hide you running an internment camp


[26-Aug-19 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bidens flub reminded me of that 2057 documentary where the rich get all the cool shit and there's overcrowded poor wards


[26-Aug-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though he is basically a walking flub now


[26-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was the same with Obama


[26-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy can't keep it straight in his head


[26-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the words just come out


[26-Aug-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is common with older guys.


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
if he was running as a republican this wouldn't be a problem


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're implying it is a problem.


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it's very apparent that if you have the magic R


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
you can say whatever you want


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
and nobody will do anything


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who voted Hillary in the primary last time don't care.


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't just Republicans.


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's boomers.


[26-Aug-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're all getting old


[26-Aug-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were racist shitheads to begin with


[26-Aug-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they've stopped caring about the image of it.


[26-Aug-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The silents aren't around to tell them to look good for the young ones.


[26-Aug-19 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWv42U1l4A

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Real Time with Bill Maher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWv42U1l4A
New Rule: The Magic R | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill Maher wonders why Republicans have "Patriotic Immunity" and disput...
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[26-Aug-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Democrats get this much scrutiny.


[26-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html

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Trump suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop the...
"People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
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[26-Aug-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he jsut say this...?


[26-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember people here joked about him suggesting something like this ages ago and laughing about it


[26-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems like he actually did suggest it


[26-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There is not "too stupid" for Trump


[26-Aug-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html herels a scientific article on that


[26-Aug-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think anyone over the age of six needs a scientific article on why it's a bad idea


[26-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you seen all the Sharknado movies?


[26-Aug-19 02:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I dunno man, sometimes I feel like the average IQ of an American is around that age


[26-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think you hav.


[26-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the most effective way to spread fallout uncontrollably as far and as fast as possible there is


[26-Aug-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind the EM fuckery


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In like, Sharknado...2 I think


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they fly a secret military space shuttle up


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
as the sharknados merge into one megasharknado


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All because idiots on the coast don't want leave their shitty 20k dollar homes


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
to detonate a large explosive


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And keep coming back every year, because 'MURRICA


[26-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure this is all intentiontally dumb etc.


[26-Aug-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you must realize that it's based on ideas people actually hav about how weather and spacecraft work


[26-Aug-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the average american goes SECRET MILITARY SPACE SHUTTLE DROPPING HUGE EXPLOSIVE FROM MEGAORBIT? YEP THAT COULD HAPPEN


[26-Aug-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And EXPLOSIVE TO DESTROY TORNADO? COULD WORK


[26-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm distressed enough as is to be thinking about the average level of intelligence at play here


[26-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that one movie where they flew tandem space shuttles to an asteroid to nuke it apart out near the moon?


[26-Aug-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that to an average American is "too complex, didn't understand it all"


[26-Aug-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind the horribly unsafe ridiculous ascent profile shown where boosters all come off at once in a big mess that would probably kill everyone


[26-Aug-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Space Shuttle can barely do low orbit btw


[26-Aug-19 02:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
America thinks nukes are the answer to everything *except* energy


[26-Aug-19 02:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"what about Chernobyl"


[26-Aug-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the time we dropped a nuke on ourselves, and the impact armed it, but also broke it?


[26-Aug-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we buried it in concrete.


[26-Aug-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically a coin landed heads so 15,000 people didn't get killed.


[26-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when we weren't sure if we could go to the Moon so we made a plan to just drop a really big nuke on it instead?


[26-Aug-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[26-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not that old, Its


[26-Aug-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
timelines are fucking weird


[26-Aug-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking wat


[26-Aug-19 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119

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Project A119
Project A119, also known as A Study of Lunar Research Flights, was a top-secret plan developed in 1958 by the United States Air Force. The aim of the project was to detonate a nuclear bomb on the Moon, which would help in answering some of the mysteries in planetary astronomy...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Study_of_Lunar_Research_Flights_-_Vol_I_-_Cover.jpg


[26-Aug-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dangit beat me to it


[26-Aug-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tony-perkins-solution-gun-violence-not-what-you-think-former-police-officer

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Tony Perkins: Solution to gun violence isn't what you think, says ...
Restricting the implements of violence while ignoring the causes is futile. The focus on tools misses the greater problem.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/08/19/694940094001_6074520959001_6074508844001-vs.jpg


[26-Aug-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:foxnews:


[26-Aug-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we should focus on both at the same time


[26-Aug-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"The answer to fixing gun crime is RELIGION"


[26-Aug-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh si rthis one of those articles saaying we need mroe thoughts and cowbells?


[26-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`To achieve security for our families and communities while preserving the freedom that has made America great, we have only one option: Restore morality by renewing our commitment to the free exercise of religion.`


[26-Aug-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[26-Aug-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need an edited gif of the penguins of madagascar going "Thoughts and prayers, boys. Thoughts and prayers"


[26-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Free exercise of religion" is GOP code for "Have the 'freedom' to enforce protestantism from a government level"


[26-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have free exercise already, they just want to get rid of anyone criticizing any religion ever


[26-Aug-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they just want to get rid of anyone criticizing christianity, whiel throwing muslims, jews, and other suchn religions under a bus


[26-Aug-19 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/24/trump-tries-to-overturn-ruling-stopping-him-from-blocking-twitte/

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Trump tries to overturn ruling stopping him from blocking Twitter ...
He wants a rehearing and claims the original decision was inherently flawed.
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[26-Aug-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he does


[26-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure they did


[26-Aug-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm sure they did


[26-Aug-19 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody asked him that


[26-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Yang met the requirements for the next debate


[26-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Litrojia#0612
Will be fun to see him in it again


[26-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're losing Williamson, though =[


[26-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Litrojia#0612
dammit


[26-Aug-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awww


[26-Aug-19 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
williamson for whit ehosue addresser 2020


[26-Aug-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Williamson is elected president and declares herself General Secretary of the United States as Chairman of the Marxist-Orbist party.


[26-Aug-19 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a corbist country now

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[26-Aug-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems pretty wasteful


[26-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless the seeds are like two inches long


[26-Aug-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or layered


[26-Aug-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you dont eat the corn ont he orb, you worship it. make offerings to it


[26-Aug-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wed your first born to it


[26-Aug-19 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Corb is the new president


[26-Aug-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jeremy Corbyn


[26-Aug-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
did Steyer or Gabbard make it yet?
seems like it's just Biden, Warren, Sanders, Harris, Buttigieg, Booker, O' Rourke, Klobuchar, Yang, and Castro rn


[26-Aug-19 04:20 AM] Litrojia#0612
think I saw the cutoff is this week


[26-Aug-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[26-Aug-19 04:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's the 28th I believe


[26-Aug-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is, I have to say, not a bad list to be left with, though


[26-Aug-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if we can split it up between 2 nights, we might get debates where candidates get more than 30 seconds to talk before being cut off


[26-Aug-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah true


[26-Aug-19 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wouldn't mind if any of them ended up entering the WH


[26-Aug-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is a far cry from where we were last time around


[26-Aug-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay, actual options this time


[26-Aug-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right now there's pretty much only one person who really has no business being an option, and that's the guy in the white house right now


[26-Aug-19 04:23 AM] Litrojia#0612
Yeah, if they had 11 candidates, would they split it up into 5 and 6, or would they try to cram them all together?


[26-Aug-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think they'd split it


[26-Aug-19 04:23 AM] Litrojia#0612
at the very least, we won't have 20 again


[26-Aug-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
true lol


[26-Aug-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
These are also names that people are familiar with


[26-Aug-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The first time around it was like, one night you'd have Warren and the rest of the crowd was literally who


[26-Aug-19 04:25 AM] Litrojia#0612
The first debates, my parents thought it was set up like the 2016 Republican debates with the undercard debate


[26-Aug-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Warren + Sanders plus their roasting targets


[26-Aug-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
got some nice snippets and soundbites from them, but everyone kept getting cut off before we actually got to learn about policy


[26-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
I think I've seen decent chunks of all of them, but don't remember a whole lot of what happened


[26-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
my impressions of the candidates haven't changed much from the debates


[26-Aug-19 04:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
and I think the only ones that left a real bad taste in my mouth in their debate performances are gone


[26-Aug-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
About the only thing I can remember is the "dark lord" soundbite


[26-Aug-19 04:27 AM] Litrojia#0612
I remember a lot of Harris going after Biden


[26-Aug-19 04:27 AM] Litrojia#0612
and the others to a lesser extent


[26-Aug-19 04:28 AM] Litrojia#0612
(the others going after Biden, that is)


[26-Aug-19 04:31 AM] Litrojia#0612
Steyer and maybe Gabbard are on the edge of making it, but I think we'll be seeing 12 max, taking a quick glance at it


[26-Aug-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I remember Sander's "damn bill" comment
and Warren's "we don't run for president to say what we can't do"


[26-Aug-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tbh I don't really like Delaney or de Blasio


[26-Aug-19 04:32 AM] Litrojia#0612
I don't think I've seen a lot of Delaney. Agreed on de Blasio


[26-Aug-19 04:33 AM] Litrojia#0612
they're both well out of the next debates tho


[26-Aug-19 04:34 AM] Litrojia#0612
While I like Sanders, it's easy for me to tune out to him nowadays since he hasn't really changed


[26-Aug-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
same; with Sanders it's much of the same


[26-Aug-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he's passionate about his ideas, but eventually voters tire of all the shouting


[26-Aug-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The biggest problem with Sanders is that I'd rather have a guy like him in congress


[26-Aug-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was reminded of this earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0iy5RIfuY

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Best of Simpsons Characters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0iy5RIfuY
Best of Kang and Kodos
A compilation of Kang and Kodos' best moments.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vR0iy5RIfuY/hqdefault.jpg


[26-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole election between Kang and Kodos is great.


[26-Aug-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They completely act not like normal humans but there's no third option, so even when they're outed as aliens, Kang wins.

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[26-Aug-19 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://reason.com/2018/04/09/there-are-too-many-kids-on-the/

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There Are Too Many Kids on the Sex Offender Registry
Both the boys admit they did it. Horsing around, two New Jersey 14-year-olds pulled down their pants and sat on
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/15213871581179-856x630.jpg


[26-Aug-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
sheesh


[26-Aug-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
kids put on the sex offender registry for stuff that, if adults did it while drunk, wouldn't even get a slap on the wrist


[26-Aug-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(well, if they did it to other adults, the entire problem is the victims were 12, so facesitting becomes a crime even if the intentions weren't sexual)


[26-Aug-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, old story I guess


[26-Aug-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would assume tho that nothing has changed.


[26-Aug-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has absolutely no desire to actually fix things.


[26-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In more recent news https://reason.com/2019/08/23/im-radioactive/

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'I'm Radioactive'
Journalist Jonathan Kaiman is one of the least famous, least powerful men to be brought down by the #MeToo movement. A year later, the fallout continues.
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/RadioactiveYoffe2-1161x630.jpg


[26-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr


[26-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy had some drunken hookups


[26-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody knows wtf happened with anything resembling certainty other than most parts were consensual


[26-Aug-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore, rape


[26-Aug-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore, unemployable, unfriendable, basically banished from society without ever a court case or anything


[26-Aug-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this guy is a rapist he's really really bad at it.


[26-Aug-19 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
The comments on the first one are _literally_ "but what if the child consents"


[26-Aug-19 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
that's how you know it's a libertarian website


[26-Aug-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[26-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho in context, that's actually a pretty reasonable thing to say, given it's talking about kid-on-kid


[26-Aug-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
R&J laws were supposed to cover this shit, but they don't always do


[26-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a kid is fukking a kid, and they're about the same ages, and the law says the kid being fukked couldn't consent and so it's a serious problem, the law shouldn't also say the kid doing the fukking should be penalized severely.


[26-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's actually a similar argument on the drunken encounter thing, sort of


[26-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're too drunk to giv consent, and he's as drunk, why is it that he's treated as being in control of his actions while you aren't?


[26-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately, most state laws treat it such that there is no defense of being intoxicated.


[26-Aug-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus if both parties are drunk out of their minds, it's the female who wins the legal battle.


[26-Aug-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/458761-cherokee-nation-to-appoint-congressional-delegate

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Cherokee Nation moves to appoint congressional delegate
The Cherokee Nation on Thursday announced it will appoint a delegate to Congress under the provisions of an 1835
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/thehill_logo_200.jpg


[26-Aug-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[26-Aug-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
they realized Gorsuch has finally created a majority of SCOTUS justices willing to recognize treaties made with natives held at gunpoint.


[26-Aug-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to pointing more guns at the natives.


[26-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], was the facesitting consensual?


[26-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
the article doesn't seem to specify that


[26-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
granted, lifetime registry for kids is retarded


[26-Aug-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
and there's not enough details to find news about that specific case


[26-Aug-19 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
hell, I can't even find an article about that specific case


[26-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
only articles about the topic of kids being put on sex offender lists


[26-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
I don't see a problem with underage punishments for sexual assault/rape/etc


[26-Aug-19 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
but not lifetime sex offender registry


[26-Aug-19 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/08/26/5d63983d21efa032258b4696.html

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Un avión del Ejército del aire cae al mar en Murcia
Un avión del Ejército del Aire ha caído al mar frente a La Manga, en Murcia, ha informado el 112 en Twitter. Embarcaciones del Plan Copla se han movilizado en busca de la tripulaci
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[26-Aug-19 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Welp, looks like a pilot played chicken against the sea and lost =/


[26-Aug-19 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[26-Aug-19 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the context is in spanish and i;m completely lost.


[26-Aug-19 10:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Video should show enough


[26-Aug-19 10:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, someone flew one of these, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASA_C-101, into the sea


[26-Aug-19 10:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe as part of a stalling exercise that went wrong, maybe trying to show off


[26-Aug-19 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah ok i missed the part where there was video, that clears things up


[26-Aug-19 10:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dang that's terrible


[26-Aug-19 10:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/576ce36ba97b41ec89777c936e5b33bc

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G7 leaders struggle for breakthrough on economy, Iran
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — G-7 leaders are wrapping up a summit dominated by tensions over U.S. trade policies and a surprise visit by Iran's top diplomat. U.S. President Donald Trump and...
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[26-Aug-19 11:20 AM] ononim#8141
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/23/gop-lobbyists-help-brazil-recruit-u-s-companies-to-exploit-the-amazon/

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GOP Lobbyists Help Brazil Recruit U.S. Companies to Exploit the Amazon
Documents reveal that efforts to clear the Amazon are being pushed by Trump-friendly lobbyists.
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[26-Aug-19 11:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am so shocked by this news, I never at all saw this coming...


[26-Aug-19 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/US_Effective_Corporate_Tax_Rate_1947-2011_v2.jpg/220px-US_Effective_Corporate_Tax_Rate_1947-2011_v2.jpg

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[26-Aug-19 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god


[26-Aug-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Please please please someone tell me Trump's 2020 campaign is KAGA


[26-Aug-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, it's just KAG =[


[26-Aug-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So close


[26-Aug-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kill all gardeners


[26-Aug-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course!


[26-Aug-19 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's actually Kill All Goyims ✡


[26-Aug-19 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is the King of Israel, after all


[26-Aug-19 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
king af gisreal


[26-Aug-19 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shocking everyone, Trump skipped the G7 meeting on climate change


[26-Aug-19 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The excuse was "meetings with Germany and India"


[26-Aug-19 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Germany and India were present at the meeting


[26-Aug-19 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/g42bv4lnari31.jpg

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[26-Aug-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was he atleast assassinated while away fromt he g7?


[26-Aug-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please?


[26-Aug-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/568961a192964b849529746567b56a85

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Trump claims serious trade negotiations with China to begin
BIARRITZ, France (AP) — President Donald Trump, facing pressure to scale back a U.S.-China trade war contributing to a global economic slowdown, claimed Monday that serious talks will begin soon...
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[26-Aug-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does china know these talks are coming soon?


[26-Aug-19 03:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow American legal system punishments are based around intentionally ruining the life of the accused.


[26-Aug-19 03:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Underage punishments thus ruin that life earlier in when it is less likely the person will be able to recover from it.


[26-Aug-19 03:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1165779653161697280

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Historic special edition 
Mixed Soviet Union (1924-1955) + Spain under Franco, and created this new country called Soviet under Franco:
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[26-Aug-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[26-Aug-19 04:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HGUNERuc_4

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[26-Aug-19 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=1008

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Strict Liability pg 1
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[26-Aug-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
That law about ANY COUNTRY'S LAWS ON ANIMALS is so dumb


[26-Aug-19 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
law should never refer to other law not controlled by the same jurisdiction.


[26-Aug-19 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I think the solutions this presents are incomplete


[26-Aug-19 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
they address the mens rea problem but not the punishment scale and applicability problem.


[26-Aug-19 05:46 PM] ononim#8141
~~if a person lets the male animal mount themseleves does it count as rape~~


[26-Aug-19 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elected officials will still write shitty laws with names like "Melissa's Act" in response to some particular thing, with no real understanding of what the effects will be.


[26-Aug-19 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the legal code will continue to grow ridiculously.


[26-Aug-19 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
No politician will get into office promising to reduce the legal burden.


[26-Aug-19 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump promised it for businesses, of course, but what he really meant was enforcing different legal burdens than Obama with different priorities


[26-Aug-19 05:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day it's the same shit where the rules are too complex, but now it's rules that let you destroy the environment, but absolutely screw you over in all the other ways.


[26-Aug-19 06:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Too real https://youtu.be/NodMd2hhLaw

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Captain Actual America Overweight, Hopelessly In Debt
Comic Con is once again marred by the increasingly popular Bully-Con, a weird glitch causes 'The Amazing Spider-Man' to reboot in the middle of the movie, an...
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[26-Aug-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something I found going off from the illustrated guide stuff https://reason.com/2019/06/17/qualified-immunity-is-an-unqualified-disgrace/

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Qualified Immunity Is an Unqualified Disgrace
In 2014, a Colorado social worker allegedly strip-searched and photographed a 4-year-old girl without a warrant. The mother sued on
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[26-Aug-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49475744

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Trump 'would meet Rouhani if circumstances right'
The US president said he had "good feelings" that a new nuclear deal with Iran could work.
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[26-Aug-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck with that


[26-Aug-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatable https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/07/04/why-young-koreans-love-to-splurge-shibal-biyong-millennial-fuck-it-expense/

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Why Young Koreans Love to Splurge
Sometimes blowing your paycheck can be a rational choice.
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[26-Aug-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
'The title of a recent South Korean bestselling book, *I Want to Die, but I Want to Eat Tteokbokki (spicy rice cakes)*, captures the essence of shibal biyong...'


[26-Aug-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[26-Aug-19 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[26-Aug-19 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.facebook.com/exarcheiatourism/posts/291991145003911

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Exarcheia Tourism
Update so far on mass police occupation and raid of anarchist neighborhood Εξάρχεια

- No cars can get in from most streets

- Helicopter hovering, unmarked police cars all over

- Only mainstream...
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[26-Aug-19 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Gamers rise up


[26-Aug-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We were promised "fuck you money" but have "fuck it money" instead.


[26-Aug-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[26-Aug-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We live in a van!


[26-Aug-19 08:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1166033264093618177?s=20

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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1166033264093618177?s=20
New national Monmouth poll:

Sanders: 20% (+6)
Warren: 20% (+5)
Biden: 19% (-13)!
Harris: 8% (-)
Booker: 4% (+2)
Buttigieg: 4% (-1)
Yang: 3% (+1)
Castro: 2% (+2)
O’Rourke: 2% (-1)
Williamson: 2% (+1)
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[26-Aug-19 08:09 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Williamson gets one


[26-Aug-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah good ol fidel castro gets one too!


[26-Aug-19 08:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Though it might be too little too late


[26-Aug-19 08:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
2 days left :/


[26-Aug-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont actually know who julian castro is


[26-Aug-19 08:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Old Obama staffer.


[26-Aug-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[26-Aug-19 08:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think he was the... Housing Secretary?


[26-Aug-19 08:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Don't really know much about him either besides that I think he has a twin in Joaquim, was a secretary


[26-Aug-19 08:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Might have been HUD, yeah


[26-Aug-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh was he the guy who roasted biden on nostalgia?


[26-Aug-19 08:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That was Booker I think


[26-Aug-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We both worked under obama, but only one of us learned from it"


[26-Aug-19 08:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Booker was the one that said "you can't just associate with Obama just when it's convenient"


[26-Aug-19 08:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe Castro did say that


[26-Aug-19 08:16 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wouldn't doubt it


[26-Aug-19 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's like running on a platform of "Hey guys, did you like george w. bush? Well i'll be his exact clone in every way! vote for me in 2050!"


[26-Aug-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cant just run as a clone of a previous president


[26-Aug-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they had different issues to deal with


[26-Aug-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was one of hillary's problems too, she tried to gank the obama supporters by saying she would pretty much be obama 2.0 without explainign what that meant


[26-Aug-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
what's the difference between a moderate and a centrist?


[26-Aug-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's How Bernie Can Still Win


[26-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
A centrist says you should burn only half the Jews


[26-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
A moderate says you should wait a year before you start burning half the jews.


[26-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv everyone some time to adjust to the change.


[26-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically centrism is overly concerning itself with not upsetting either side


[26-Aug-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
while moderates usually just are sort of half-conservatives that go along with whatever gets decided but try to slam the brakes


[26-Aug-19 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Bernie pls


[26-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Williamson: 2% (+1)`


[26-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
No, a moderate says burning Jews is bad and you should find a more reasonable solution


[26-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Mikey#7286
Moderates are non extremist versions of whatever side they're on


[26-Aug-19 09:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Like a moderate liberal wants clean energy but says you can't just rush in and switch overnight


[26-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
biden is a moderate democrat


[26-Aug-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
let that sink in


[26-Aug-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[26-Aug-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/sink-plumbing-fail-gif-11288323

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Plumbing sink fail
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[26-Aug-19 09:30 PM] Litrojia#0612
-13 bruh


[26-Aug-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I let that sink in and it pissed on the floor, are you happy now?


[26-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[26-Aug-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/568961a192964b849529746567b56a85 The best way to negotiate is to punch your target in the dick first and then declare that a negotiation is coming soon before they realize they even agreed to one!

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BIARRITZ, France (AP) — Brushing off concerns about global economic instability, President Donald Trump on Monday defended the way he is trying to squeeze a trade deal out of China, saying it's...
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[26-Aug-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/26/nestle-suwannee-river-ginnie-springs-plan-permit

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Opponents fighting to stop the project say the fragile river cannot sustain such a large draw
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[26-Aug-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck nestle


[26-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Aug-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
check out bernie getting arrested in chicago in the 60's for protesting segregation


[26-Aug-19 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Aug-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Everything is waters" -Thales


[26-Aug-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[26-Aug-19 11:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43kwgb/not-jordan-peterson-voice-generator-shut-down-deepfakes

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A Site Faking Jordan Peterson's Voice Shuts Down After Peterson De...
The maker of NotJordanPeterson.com, a Jordan Peterson Voice simulator that used AI to match his voice to any text inputs, took the website down, after the real Peterson freaked out.
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[26-Aug-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
irony


[26-Aug-19 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wimp =[


[26-Aug-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
freeze peach


[26-Aug-19 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/MegaPear/status/1164398760379723776?s=19

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[26-Aug-19 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[26-Aug-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[27-Aug-19 12:01 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://www.thenation.com/article/even-david-kochs-philanthropy-was-toxic/

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Even David Koch’s Philanthropy Was Toxic
Like other plutocrats, from Andrew Carnegie to Jeff Bezos, the late billionaire used charity to legitimize inequality.
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[27-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[27-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The young should fear RBG


[27-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I keep confusing that for RGB


[27-Aug-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Her crossover episodes with Scalia were the best


[27-Aug-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This new season is boring


[27-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch is trying to keep it interesting with a legal theory under which treaties hav meaning.


[27-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God it's gonna be awkward when Garland gets on the Court.


[27-Aug-19 12:41 AM] ononim#8141

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[27-Aug-19 01:15 AM] ononim#8141
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/08/26/twitter-suspends-ron-perlman-after-wishing-death-on-charles-koch-claims-he-was-silenced-for-calling-out-fascism/

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John F. Trent
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/08/26/twitter-suspends-ron-perlman-after-wishing-death-on-charles-koch-claims-he-was-silenced-for-calling-out-fascism/
Twitter Suspends Ron Perlman After Wishing Death on Charles Koch -...
Hellboy actor Ron Perlman admitted he was suspended by Twitter after he wished death on billionaire Charles Koch after his brother David Koch passed away.
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[27-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was an obvious joke.


[27-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta be fair I guess


[27-Aug-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have no problem with this other than the fact that there are clear instances of it *not* being enforced, and thus unfair


[27-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So long as Trump's account is clear, Twitter's moderation is broken


[27-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again I guess he's a good reverse honeypot


[27-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The idiot will reblog shit from obvious plants and those get banned


[27-Aug-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think a "Only not getting removed because they're a politician" thing is what they're going for


[27-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_pays the token fee to form an official political party_


[27-Aug-19 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Come at me bitches


[27-Aug-19 01:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump talks about making laws to protect freeze peach on social media sites. If Twitter actually enforced their own rules on him he would use it as ammo.


[27-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of that mayoral candidate who said that someone else in the town government was wrong for being in an interracial relationship


[27-Aug-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Aug-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
those aren't real right


[27-Aug-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
they're real


[27-Aug-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1166029272147877888

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Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro)
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This is why you aren’t president https://t.co/cCHpUtLER3
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[27-Aug-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah


[27-Aug-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah they are


[27-Aug-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Aug-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Aug-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
texas has new laws


[27-Aug-19 02:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-england-uk_uk_5d63f8b5e4b01d7b529321b2

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'Where's England?': Donald Trump Appears Confused About The UK Dur...
US president's thoughts on Brexit, Iran and holding the next meeting at his property in Miami.
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[27-Aug-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are too many damn laws.


[27-Aug-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair the  new oens in texas are mostly just expansions on mail protection, a bring your gun to school law, and a brass knuckles law


[27-Aug-19 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
package protection now covers amazon, ups, and fedex


[27-Aug-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes america has too many fucking laws


[27-Aug-19 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of those laws exist jsut to give corporations an edge too...


[27-Aug-19 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
G7 having a meeting about saving the amazon. G7 made up of countries with trillions of dollars. Gives 20million between the lot of them... good to know they care. 💸 🔥 🌳


[27-Aug-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/08/23/mich-council-candidate-marysville-white-possible/40000625/

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Michigan council candidate: Marysville should be as white ‘as po...
Jean Cramer said Friday she has no plans to end her campaign despite backlash over her remarks at candidate forum.
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[27-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/08/26/jean-cramer-withdraws-marysville-council-race-wake-racist-comments/2121916001/

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Jean Cramer withdraws from Marysville council race in wake of raci...
The 67-year-old's one-sentence letter to the city was submitted Monday — four days after her comments sparked controversy.
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[27-Aug-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
[curb your enthusiasm theme plays]


[27-Aug-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking always sunny in philidelphia


[27-Aug-19 08:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idu2b2c3Hwo

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Timcast
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The Far Left Is Bisecting Our Economy Into "Liberal Only" Businesses
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[27-Aug-19 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's bullshit, corporations are at their least regulated in a century


[27-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
A basic skimming shows it's some absolutele bullshit involving a blog listing some businesses as conservative or liberal


[27-Aug-19 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
something something boycott


[27-Aug-19 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
businesses are loyal to no party except money, it;s the parties who are loyal to businesses


[27-Aug-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and again because money


[27-Aug-19 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/20a82931ce8a4539ae80053f686e60a3

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Ethics outcry as Trump touts 'magnificent' Doral for next G7
MIAMI (AP) — President Donald Trump was in full sales mode Monday, doing everything but pass out brochures as he touted the features that would make the Doral golf resort the ideal place for the...
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[27-Aug-19 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he touted the features that would make the Doral golf resort the ideal place for the next G-7 Summit — close to the airport, plenty of hotel rooms, separate buildings for every delegation, even top facilities for the media.

There’s just one detail he left out: He owns the place.

Government ethics watchdogs have long railed against the perils of Trump earning money off the presidency and hosting foreign leaders at his properties. But they say Trump’s proposal to bring world leaders to his Miami-area resort takes the conflict of interest to a whole new level because, unlike stays at his Washington, they would have no choice but to spend money at his property.

“It’s ethics violation squared,” said Kathleen Clark of Washington University School of Law in St. Louis.


[27-Aug-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, I wasn't surprised he'd suggest it, I was that none of his aides rushed to correct the fake news media on what the president /actually/ meant or whatever


[27-Aug-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again none of these feckless sycophants have the spine to question the Word of Trump in public


[27-Aug-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“They went to places all over the country and they came back and they said, ‘This is where we’d like to be,’” Trump said. “It’s not about me. It’s about getting the right location.”

He then added: “I’m not going to make any money. I don’t want to make money. I don’t care about making money.”


[27-Aug-19 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He said, as he tried to dive head first into a money bin he doesn't actually own


[27-Aug-19 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49479470

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Brazil to reject G7 money to fight Amazon fires
No reason is given for turning down the aid, but Brazil's president accused the G7 of colonialism.
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[27-Aug-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did, he;s probably raking in coprporate money from all over for lettign it burn to the ground, why would he stop this train now


[27-Aug-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better question is why they thought he would take the money to stop the fire he caused in the first place


[27-Aug-19 01:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/25/border-patrol-israel-elbit-surveillance/

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The U.S. Border Patrol and an Israeli Military Contractor Are Putt...
Elbit Systems, which touts its products as “field-proven” on Palestinians, was contracted to build a high-tech surveillance system on Tohono O’odham land.
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[27-Aug-19 01:37 PM] ononim#8141
```On the southwestern end of the Tohono O’odham Nation’s reservation, roughly 1 mile from a barbed-wire barricade marking Arizona’s border with the Mexican state of Sonora, Ofelia Rivas leads me to the base of a hill overlooking her home. A U.S. Border Patrol truck is parked roughly 200 yards upslope. A small black mast mounted with cameras and sensors is positioned on a trailer hitched to the truck. For Rivas, the Border Patrol’s monitoring of the reservation has been a grim aspect of everyday life. And that surveillance is about to become far more intrusive.

The vehicle is parked where U.S. Customs and Border Protection will soon construct a 160-foot surveillance tower capable of continuously monitoring every person and vehicle within a radius of up to 7.5 miles. The tower will be outfitted with high-definition cameras with night vision, thermal sensors, and ground-sweeping radar, all of which will feed real-time data to Border Patrol agents at a central operating station in Ajo, Arizona. The system will store an archive with the ability to rewind and track individuals’ movements across time — an ability known as “wide-area persistent surveillance.”```


[27-Aug-19 01:37 PM] ononim#8141
```Tohono O’odham people used to move freely across these lands, Rivas says, but following years of harassment by Border Patrol agents, many are afraid to venture far from their homes.

“Now we won’t be able to go anywhere near here without the big U.S.-Israeli eyes monitoring us, watching our every move,” she says.```


[27-Aug-19 01:38 PM] ononim#8141
```The surveillance has had an acute impact on borderland communities, including on the Tohono O’odham reservation. Drones fly overhead, and motion sensors track foot traffic. CBP checkpoints monitor people traveling between the reservation and cities such as Tucson and Phoenix. Vehicle barriers, surveillance cameras, and trucks have appeared near burial grounds and on hilltops amid ancient saguaro forests, which are sacred to people on the reservation.

Nellie Jo David, a Tohono O’odham tribal member who is writing her dissertation on border security issues at the University of Arizona, says many younger people who have been forced by economic circumstances to work in nearby cities are returning home less and less, because they want to avoid the constant surveillance and harassment. “It’s especially taken a toll on our younger generations.”```


[27-Aug-19 01:38 PM] ononim#8141
```Elbit Systems has frequently touted a major advantage over these competitors: the fact that its products are “field-proven” on Palestinians. The company built surveillance sensors for Israel’s separation barrier through the West Bank, which has been deemed illegal under international law, as well as around the Gaza Strip and on the northern border with Lebanon and Syria.

Elbit is also one of the main contractors on a new kind of underground wall, still under construction, around the blockaded Gaza Strip. Elbit’s drones patrol the Mediterranean Sea as part of the European Union’s bid to seal off access to migrants from North Africa, and it has provided its technologies to militaries in Australia, Africa, Asia, Central America, and South America.```


[27-Aug-19 01:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Brazils president wants the amazon to burn. Farmers are going to move in and clear the burned area to grow vegan protein foods, cows, and other high value foods. Farmers are starting more fires for the presidents "day of fire". He says the illegal exploitation of the amazon is good for Brazilian business and he wont try to stop them. He tried blaming the fires on the people that want to protect the amazon... :faceclaw: 

The bitch talking about colonialism wants to colonise the amazon.


[27-Aug-19 02:08 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so nothing happened at the sumit besides trump being a cunt ?


[27-Aug-19 02:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The summit raised a piss poor amount of money to help fight fires in the amazon.


[27-Aug-19 02:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh and that lol


[27-Aug-19 03:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon btw get this


[27-Aug-19 03:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro insulted Macron's wife for being ugly


[27-Aug-19 03:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Macron, as expected, gave a speech condemning Bolso's completely immature posture


[27-Aug-19 03:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro, now, after rejecting the millions for the Amazon fund... claims he'll consider accepting the money if Macron apologizes for his speech.


[27-Aug-19 03:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being this fucking irrational


[27-Aug-19 03:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/brazil-rejects-g-7-amazon-aid-citing-its-lack-of-involvementin-decision-to-grant-it/2019/08/27/4d8b0eb8-c8b6-11e9-9615-8f1a32962e04_story.html?noredirect=on


[27-Aug-19 03:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Come to Brazil"


[27-Aug-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
amazing


[27-Aug-19 03:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
They say the Second Ammendment exists to protect the people from tyranny.


[27-Aug-19 03:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
So when do I get to use it for legitemate street violence to destroy the III%s and Proud Boys?


[27-Aug-19 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
prob never


[27-Aug-19 03:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
AntiFa only partisan group fighting tyranny. Please recognize as patriots.


[27-Aug-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/029db7dda81c4b12a539763c994283a1

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What lies ahead following Oklahoma opioid judgment
Oklahoma's $572 million judgment against Johnson & Johnson will likely be followed by more trials and legal settlements seeking to hold a drug company accountable for a U.S. opioid crisis that has...
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[27-Aug-19 06:39 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
https://youtu.be/_EZzX_Ohzfc

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Sir Swag
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This week's news without the bullshit (Week 34 2019)
Welcome to the 34th week of news in 2019. This week we’ll be talking about Disney’s new streaming service, the Obi wan spinoff, the Mandalorian TV show, The ...
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[27-Aug-19 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/27/leaked-documents-reveal-tories-dramatic-plans-for-schools

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Leaked documents reveal Tories' dramatic plans for schools
Exclusive: crackdown on behaviour coupled with more money for schools and teachers
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[27-Aug-19 07:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1013129781472002048

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According to the fake news, the fires at Amazon forests are the re...
@Vetus on Minds


[27-Aug-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See why would this person get mad at being called a Nazi


[27-Aug-19 08:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.ecowatch.com/greenland-melting-ocean-warming-below-2639919864.html

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'We Should Be Retreating Already From the Coastline,' Scientist Su...
Josh Willis and his research team at NASA's Ocean Melting Greenland have seen some alarming patterns as they jet around Greenland's coastline.
https://assets.rbl.ms/20628657/980x.jpg?1566929998


[27-Aug-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, "colonialism", a classic


[27-Aug-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
whenever your struggling nearly-third-world shithole is doing badly because your strongman nationalism is intentionally using problems to propel itself off hate


[27-Aug-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can deflect blame by just blaming other countries when they try to help by referring bakk to history


[27-Aug-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It reminds your nationalist sycophant base that there is to be no rational discourse on accepting help, and that the party line is to hate those countries and anything they offer.


[27-Aug-19 09:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-joked-about-trading-puerto-rico-greenland-puerto-ricans-are-n1045296

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Trump joked about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland. Puerto Ricans...
Puerto Rican Twitter users coined the term "Caribbean Vikings" and created their own Danish "starter kits" in case Puerto Rico becomes a colony of Denmark.
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[27-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the strategy is


[27-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
plant surveillance on the border where the natives are, especially


[27-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
natives don't feel welcome, leave


[27-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you can say that no natives liv there


[27-Aug-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and remove the reservation


[27-Aug-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of *course* it involves Israeli money.


[27-Aug-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised no one told Trump off for wanting to literally buy people


[27-Aug-19 09:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
would you rather he invade?


[27-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
???


[27-Aug-19 09:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
China should buy America.


[27-Aug-19 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
LONG LIVE THE MIDDLE KINGDOM


[27-Aug-19 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
MAY THE HONG KONG REVOLT REALIZE COMMUNIST PURPOSE, AND OVERTHROW THE VANGUARD OF BEIJING.


[27-Aug-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/cvu8eg/put_cannabis_in_a_dss_tenants_flat_so_i_could/

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[27-Aug-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being this guy


[27-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I should be surprised but this guy's just like most CEO's just poorer and dumber


[27-Aug-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
landlords and CEOs are basically the same job, but with vastly different pay and class of vermin


[27-Aug-19 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though in somke casesthey are the exact same job because half the landlords in america are Chinese CEOs


[27-Aug-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/31167541a4a742d59b61bf5e705b71a4

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Spurning Amazon aid, Brazil brings up Notre Dame fire
JACUNDA NATIONAL FOREST, Brazil (AP) — Brazil insisted on Tuesday that it would set conditions for accepting any aid from the world's richest nations to help fight Amazon fires, saying France...
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[27-Aug-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/88bd58010e75449eb5748499724df2f2

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Biden: Racism in US is institutional, 'white man's problem'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Racism in America is institutional and it is a "white man's problem," Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday, arguing that the way to attack the issue is to defeat President...
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[27-Aug-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I really hope Biden fucks off soon


[27-Aug-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah he'll be president for 8 years.


[27-Aug-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
trump will be reelected and will be president until his heart explodes


[27-Aug-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
until his house explodes*


[27-Aug-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/purdue-pharma-offers-10-12-billion-settle-opioid-claims-n1046526

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Purdue Pharma offers $10-12B to settle 2,000+ opioid lawsuits
The lawsuits allege the company and the Sackler family are responsible for starting and sustaining the opioid crisis.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_35/2986746/190827-oxycontin-purdue-cs-253p_6191314cd16be4e94437683907f4135c.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Aug-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
>12 billion


[27-Aug-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
pff


[28-Aug-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People underestimate the "feels" Biden gives some


[28-Aug-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the thing biden's campaign is a nostalgia hook that banks on the good feelings people had after supporting obama.


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And people underestimate how much that drives people


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was part of why hillary got really popular with older people


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People want normalcy, people want to feel good again and they did under Obama


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she used the same tactic


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah she was too unlikeable


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is Uncle Biden


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Uncle Joe


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hillary was cast as shrill and unlikeable


[28-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Uncle Joe


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racists love to feel good.


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
uncle joe's touchy puzzle basement is a voter trap


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
To feel safe with white Uncle Joe


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big pearly whites, crows feet wrinkles, well pressed suit but not too fancy


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's not blakk and he won't make BLM rise up to steal your corn.


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not too smart either


[28-Aug-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hes the "safe" version of obama everyone wanted!


[28-Aug-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why he was Obama's VP to begin with


[28-Aug-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make racists feel safe that it was really a white man in charge.


[28-Aug-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Obama's Pence


[28-Aug-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Obama made his reforms a little too obvious despite being incredibly slow.


[28-Aug-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The "don't worry, it's still us" marker


[28-Aug-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course then Trump blew Pence the fuck out of the water and Pence seems like the liberal of the two


[28-Aug-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm every bit the safety blanket obama was, but even safer because i;m white and elderly and i was his vice!"


[28-Aug-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hillary tried runnign that gambit too but she was a woman, and way too unliekd for it to work so she ended up switching to the "i have a vagina" approach of campaigning to "progressives"


[28-Aug-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her attempt to sway conservatives was telling them that she knows the wallstreet peoples


[28-Aug-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't really work when you're known for ruining the lives of women your husband "fooled with"


[28-Aug-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[28-Aug-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and she fucked over female staff when bill was president apparently, just for the crime of existing


[28-Aug-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
#metoo for her was very different, a time to look out for threats and targets


[28-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
MeToo for her was realizing she might hav to dodge more questions, because as a woman, she can't actually be a target.


[28-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she could be seen as doing too little etc.


[28-Aug-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
because everyone's forgotten that Bill was basically like most presidents, a sexist asshole who'd cheat on his wife and pressure anyone nearby for sex.


[28-Aug-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
amazon more like amagon :dab:


[28-Aug-19 12:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Amagon? http://tasvideos.org/1924M.html

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[28-Aug-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing she did was brign a woman on stage to tell other women that if they didn;t support hillary, they would burn in hell for all eternity


[28-Aug-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
needless to say, that backfired


[28-Aug-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-bed-bugs-doral-resort-g7-2017-settlement-2019-8

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https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d6547992e22af15d9799c59-1920-960.jpg


[28-Aug-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hat soemhow makes him look worse than he already did...


[28-Aug-19 12:59 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
It'd be nice if Macron would respect Brazilian sovereignty and territory and stopped speaking nonsense like taking Amazon away


[28-Aug-19 01:00 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Go worry about France's forests, if there's any left to worry about :/


[28-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be nice if brazil didn't defund conservation of the amazon forest and let it burn down because their leader wants to use the land to make money


[28-Aug-19 01:20 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Hahah you have ZERO idea about what's going on


[28-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
To begin with all this fuzzle is made by all the artists that lost their easy funding with the end of communism pro governments and so they have been making hella propaganda against current government and as always artists gets their voice out


[28-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Brazil has more severe laws for nature preservation than any European country and believe me every one takes it VERY seriously


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
that got defunded


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://time.com/5661162/why-the-amazon-is-on-fire/

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The Real Reason the Amazon Is On Fire
To understand why Brazil's rainforests are burning, you need to grasp how the country has dismantled support for indigenous communities.
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/brazil-amazon-fires-2.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I was about to link that


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Many blame President Jair Bolsonaro’s rhetoric as the central factor in the crisis. Less obvious are the ways the conflagration stems from years of slashing government budgets for the environment and dismantling support for indigenous and traditional subsistence communities.'


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
'In 2017, Temer cut the federal science budget by 44% and took nearly the same amount from the discretionary budget of IBAMA, Brazil’s environmental agency. In April 2019, Bolsonaro continued the trend, cutting IBAMA’s budget by 24%. Those cuts left the agency unable to cover its fixed costs and left it without resources for patrolling and enforcement.'


[28-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
it started before bolsanaro, but he certainly isn't helping


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
'A spokesperson for IBAMA says that its budget has been reinstated to what it was prior to the April cuts. Nonetheless, thus far in 2019, IBAMA has issued only one third of the fines it did over the same period last year, according to Folha de São Paulo, one of Brazil’s largest newspapers. The drop is likely a result of both a lack of funding and political will. Earlier this year, Bolsonaro had IBAMA fire an agent, who happened to have fined Bolsonaro years ago for illegal fishing.

In a similar vein, after the Brazilian space agency, called INPE, released new satellite data showing a 278% increase in deforestation in July compared to the same period last year, Bolsonaro fired the agency’s head, suggesting that the data were trumped up in order to tarnish the country’s image.'


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter if you have the strictest laws on the planet if they aren't enforced


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you really think he's not making it worse


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I'm too sick for this, y'all want to know more than I do about my country with misleading data


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're full of shit.


[28-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, the facts are that he cut the funding


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has manipulated agencies on a personal level


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Oh yeah? can I report you for offending me?


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has taken calls to stop this as a personal insult.


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
feeling offended doesn't break the rules


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
sorry


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need to liv in Brazil to understand that your country's leader has taken the exact opposite of the actions necessary to solve the problem.


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
#0 he just said very #0 rule breaking like statement


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
personal attacks break the rules


[28-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has quite blatantly made it worse.


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
when you make a claim


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
with absolutely no evidence to back up your claim


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, to reject promised funds to help


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
and all of the evidence pointing towards the exact opposite of your claim


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then to make them conditional on an apology


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
shows that actually solving the problem is not his goal.


[28-Aug-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
I guess there's nicer ways of putting it than being "full of shit", but it's true


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Oh yes, so you gonna curse at someone to make a standing? That sounds very mature, and as always I know he's safe from any repercussion for it so why bother


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
His goal appears to be to directly link criticism of his policies to anti-Brazilian sentiment.


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very common nationalist tactic.


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
same thing is happening with israel


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
and the US


[28-Aug-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You shouldn't believe your government when they are clearly lying and manipulating things.


[28-Aug-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'd say that israel is actually borderline fascist


[28-Aug-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bolsonaro was really at all interested in helping, there would be a completely different pattern of behaviors here.


[28-Aug-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He may not be the only reason the Amazon is burning but he sure as hell doesn't giv a shit.


[28-Aug-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, obligatory, you can't just ignore my side of the argument because of swearing.


[28-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
(another common tactic in nationalism-based arguments, find something disagreeable to use to talk about instead of the actual arguments presented, to distract)


[28-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
@Fleety von Rainy', not sure if you've noticed what goes on in this channel very often, but most people here have a very dim view of nationalism, and nationalistic talking points will get called out super hard


[28-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general talking points that completely contradict what the media's reporting will get called out super hard.


[28-Aug-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism just tends to be the sort of thing based entirely on alternative facts.


[28-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
the fact of the matter is that the brazilian government doesn't seem to be up to the task of managing the safety and well-being of one of the most important parts of the global ecosystem on the planet


[28-Aug-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
especially considering it didn't start with the current leader


[28-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem with conservation efforts


[28-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both parties don't like them


[28-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the liberal side will be too weak and bend to business interests


[28-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the conservative side will be nothing but business interests doing a token show while it shuffles people around corruptly to hide the full scale of how it's dismantling things.


[28-Aug-19 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro loves excusing his handling of the Amazon by claiming the Europeans are out to violate our sovereignty or whatever


[28-Aug-19 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind that we have proven ourselves extremely inept at following the laws we ourselves created


[28-Aug-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro is an excuse machine, everytime he or his supporters are confronted about corruption, they bring out the red herring and point to the alleged corruption schemes of Lula, a socdem that ruled the country until Dilma Rousseff


[28-Aug-19 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian conservatives are fundamentally uncapable of self-critique


[28-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
\s/Brazilian c/C/


[28-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot more in the article btw, but of course at this point it's just preaching to the choir.


[28-Aug-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway, some good news at least


[28-Aug-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Brazilian government intervened in the G7 Amazon negotiations and removed Bolsonaro's condition that Macron should ignore his insults towards his wife in order to accept the money


[28-Aug-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many of Bolso's former supporters are already jumping ship


[28-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wasn't the whole Lula thing found to be basically entirely fabricated btw?


[28-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>inb4 obscure constitutional article used to declare this treason


[28-Aug-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alexandre Frota, a porn actor turned moralist conservative politician (very Brazilian), is recently coming out with allegations that Bolsonaro is in cahoots with organized crime and employed fake news bots for his campaign


[28-Aug-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie it seems like it has been


[28-Aug-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Glenn Greenwald is to believe


[28-Aug-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Summary, Brazil is an epic dumpster fire rn


[28-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What part of the world isn't


[28-Aug-19 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, Argentina is getting better, i think... also Portugal


[28-Aug-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Portugal is not doing great economically last I heard


[28-Aug-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that great, but i hear its social inequality problems are being tackled well by the new leftist govt


[28-Aug-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Argentina could only get better, considering where they were...


[28-Aug-19 01:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/27/metal-detectorists-end-hospital-accidentally-eating-cannabis-cakes-10639165/
Granny's and Grandpas try some dank weed and think they are gonna die.

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[28-Aug-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[28-Aug-19 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
Huh missed some action


[28-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang Gang strong


[28-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The power of a thousand bucks


[28-Aug-19 02:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
Nazi Furries/Bronies get the double gulag


[28-Aug-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
I am still at awe of straight up 14 words RaHoWa fash who are actually autistically into mlp as we are and maybe more


[28-Aug-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
I see them for years now but they still baffle me


[28-Aug-19 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
I wonder how they feel about the finale


[28-Aug-19 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
And by "wonder" I mean I know perfectly well how


[28-Aug-19 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People still do the whole "COMMUNISM KILLED MORE" unironically on Aryanne images, >>1661835


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[28-Aug-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
wew, mods posting lewds outside of nsfw


[28-Aug-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
edgy


[28-Aug-19 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
Based aryanne getting international friendship image


[28-Aug-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
I too sometimes consider living dangerously.


[28-Aug-19 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew spoilered images and links


[28-Aug-19 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being at a party and saying "AIDS is a pretty nasty thing" and someone just bullrushes you screeching "HEP C KILLS MORE PEOPLE EVERY YEAR, WHY DO YOU LOVE LIVER DISEASES SO MUCH?!?!"


[28-Aug-19 02:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean going on about communism when nazis come up is like going on about vending machines killing white people when lynchings get brought up


[28-Aug-19 02:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
except if the vending machines were only falling on landlords and wouldn't fall on them if they stopped being landlords or land owners or capitalists


[28-Aug-19 02:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
because you can't choose race


[28-Aug-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's such a bizarre thing to try to imagine any non-nazi/racist/absolute moron bringing up


[28-Aug-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, OK? What the fuck does that have to do with it tho


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
because all nazis can do is deflect


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
their position is indefensible


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
like deliberate racial genocides don't really compare to famines and classicide.
You tend to be able to choose to give up class, you can't give up race.
Famines don't really discriminate much it's a pretty brainlet take to say MAO AND STALIN LITERALLY WANTED TO STARVE WHITE PEOPLE TO DEATH FUCKING JEWS REEEEE


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
poor policy decision? yes


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
intentional genocide of people for ethnicity and religion? no


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
not remotely compareable


[28-Aug-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We should really improve building insulation to reduce heat waste and energy costs" "Fucking how DARE you talk about this while Cher is flying private jets!?"


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's like if you talk about climate change killing thousands of brown people in hot countries


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
they'd go WHAT ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE WHITE GIRLS WONT FUCK ME


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you do there is


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, the only people in that scenario that would get offended... are people that skimp on insulation


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
you tell them to reduce the waste and energy costs of Cher's private jets too


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really makes you think etc.


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the buildings first


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
how about we just uhhhhhhh


[28-Aug-19 02:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
behead all of those with private jets


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
as soon as people start going on about like, SUN WARMER HUBBLE SHOW MARS VENUS WARMER


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the hubble does not actually detect infrared radiation)


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't actually address it directly


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like we can do both


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just talk about ocean acidification


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
we can improve society while living in it


[28-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best thing to do with people in heavily fortified argument positions is to go around.


[28-Aug-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>he thinks we can criticize nazis without riding stalin's dick


[28-Aug-19 02:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
we can give the bourgeoisie free lead poisoning while improving infrastructure to reduce energy demand


[28-Aug-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao, you must be new to the internet


[28-Aug-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're prepared to talk about X, you talk about Y and how X is small fries because Y is more important.


[28-Aug-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
#1 rule of arguing with people without sincerely held beliefs is don't


[28-Aug-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when they stumble


[28-Aug-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you win the crowd


[28-Aug-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and can move on.


[28-Aug-19 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, for as hilarious as people like silverstarapple can be


[28-Aug-19 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shirani or whatever his name is now are far more annoying


[28-Aug-19 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any time you say something, he'll managed to read a 3rd loop english-welsh google translate version of it and focus on the most exaggerated make believe scenario from it


[28-Aug-19 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you say "I think Lincoln Logs today should be made from recycled material", he'll reply with "Oh, so you're saying it's OK to HUNT DOWN AND MURDER lumberjacks?!"


[28-Aug-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always ask "So, what's the end goal"


[28-Aug-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd be amazed how wrapped up in ideology are so people can't even articulate their goal, if they got everything they wanted


[28-Aug-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
my mom says that obama buying a multi-million dollar beachside property in cape cod proves that global warming is a hoax created by the leftist socialist communist liberal media


[28-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.masslive.com/capecod/2019/08/barack-and-michelle-obama-buying-29-acre-estate-on-marthas-vineyard.html

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Barack and Michelle Obama buying 29-acre estate on Martha’s Vineyard
Another former first family will soon call the Vineyard home.
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[28-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My parents were generally right wing until Trump.


[28-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Your mom is a clinical depressant


[28-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now they vote pretty much solidly Democrat, except for local positions where they like, personally know the candidate


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism has no end goal, ever.


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally designed around reversing progress.


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my parents have always been left wing though mroe to the center left than to the direct left They;ve also been consistantly lesser evil voters except int he case of obama which was like "We need him so fucking badly"


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has the same goal as terrorism.


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone agrees to join the cause to fight the enemy because they don't like what is


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What was the quote of the scarlet letter suggesting AIDS guy? Something like "Conservatives are standing in the front of progress and loudly imploring it to stop"


[28-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't like it or the enemy, and that's all there really is to it.


[28-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, Buckley was the one who wanted mandatory government warning tattoos for those with AIDS


[28-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking CAD


[28-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
My parents are pretty racist but they aren't fond of how Republicans turn racism into an institutional thing that screws over everyone.


[28-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't "A Modest Proposal" for the 80s either


[28-Aug-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was 100% serious


[28-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom will say fukk the homeless all day long but she knows that axing social programs to actually cause it is a terrible idea.


[28-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't giv a single shit about like, how women are treated, but she knows that systemic sexism getting in the way of reason is a dumb idea.


[28-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was pretty hilarious to realize Trump has made her hate Republicans so much she no longer talks about things like how attractive candidates are.


[28-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because now she actually thinks there's important shit on the line.


[28-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously she wanted Hillary over Trump over Bernie because of how hot they each were.


[28-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That stopped around when the election was nearing.


[28-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
For those wondering, yes I'm the least shitposty person in my family, @IAmADeliciousPotato


[28-Aug-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
My parents will loudly yell PUT THE SWORD UP HIS ASSSSS during movies with medieval swordfights.


[28-Aug-19 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[28-Aug-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
reppy irl


[28-Aug-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I tried to link a pinned comment but it didn't work


[28-Aug-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
It's the one about anal sex


[28-Aug-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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THe lEFt hAS becOMe so eXtrEmE i'vE been FoRCed TO mOvE RiGHt
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[28-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Mikey#7286
https://beta.washingtonpost.com/immigration/take-the-land-president-trump-wants-a-border-wall-he-wants-it-black-and-he-wants-it-by-election-day/2019/08/27/37b80018-c821-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html?outputType=amp

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President Trump wants a border wall. He wants it black. And he wan...
The White House is making an all-out push to get hundreds of miles of border barriers built before November 2020, largely to fulfill Trump’s signature campaign promise.
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[28-Aug-19 05:45 AM] Mikey#7286
"President Trump is so eager to complete hundreds of miles of border fence ahead of the 2020 presidential election that he has directed aides to fast-track billions of dollars’ worth of construction contracts, aggressively seize private land and disregard environmental rules, according to current and former officials involved with the project."


[28-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh yeah


[28-Aug-19 05:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Aggressively seizing private land will go over well.


[28-Aug-19 06:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
time for poorly made rebar wall that will fall over in many parts within a year


[28-Aug-19 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Third presidential debate, the Democratic candidate will save the "Mr. Trump tear down your wall" until the end


[28-Aug-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not if it's Yang.


[28-Aug-19 07:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wdym


[28-Aug-19 07:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also, why would a Dem quote a politician they oppose heavily


[28-Aug-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He knows how to sukk the life and flair out of things.


[28-Aug-19 07:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Really? I am a bit biased towards Yang, but he does usually command a fair amount of applause when he speaks


[28-Aug-19 07:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wouldn't call him one that sucks life and flair out of things tbh


[28-Aug-19 07:40 AM] byte[]#2610
milk toast


[28-Aug-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
> He also has told worried subordinates that he will pardon them of any potential wrongdoing should they have to break laws to get the barriers built quickly, those officials said.


[28-Aug-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
that's the worst part imo


[28-Aug-19 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
well, federally


[28-Aug-19 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
they could break state laws and be held accountable for state crimes


[28-Aug-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
not just that he's breaking all the laws, he's telling other people to break all the laws and he'll abuse what he sees as a get out of jail free card


[28-Aug-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Aug-19 10:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49486590

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Epstein accuser urges Prince Andrew to 'come clean'
Virginia Giuffre says she was forced to have sex with the prince when she was 17, a claim he denies.
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[28-Aug-19 11:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

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Government to ask Queen to suspend Parliament
It would mean MPs are unlikely to have time to pass any laws that could stop a no-deal Brexit.
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[28-Aug-19 11:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-nyt-bret-stephens

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Trump mocks NYT's Bret Stephens: My resort doesn't have 'bedbugs,'...
President Trump slammed New York Times columnist Bret Stephens, suggesting he's "loaded up" with bed bugs.
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[28-Aug-19 11:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To note, Stephens is a conservative


[28-Aug-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f3bc8a7647c74df68f0d9ce1f0302257

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US moves FEMA, Coast Guard money to fund border programs
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Homeland Security is moving $271 million from other agencies such as FEMA and the U.S. Coast Guard to increase the number of beds for detained immigrants and...
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[28-Aug-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fine we'll give them beds, but we're going to make everyone else suffer for it"


[28-Aug-19 02:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Joe Biden: It Would Be an Insult to My Dead Son for Everyone to Have Healthcare https://t.co/omOnLTuYbq
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[28-Aug-19 03:11 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Aug-19 03:13 PM] ononim#8141
fuck


[28-Aug-19 03:13 PM] ononim#8141
you posted it here


[28-Aug-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden would win so easily if just shut the fuck up


[28-Aug-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally just do what he did for 8 years with Obama, smile and look non-threatening


[28-Aug-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Aug-19 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[28-Aug-19 04:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When the politics thread is on about rent and shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJbE1bvdgo

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Cities: Skylines | Power, Politics, & Planning: Episode 5: Public ...
This is gonna be the video about public housing. Or part 1 of it, since it went so long. Angie Speaks on the Victorian Workhouse: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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[28-Aug-19 04:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the immortal words of DNT and the only left slogan comparable to taxation is theft: "R E N T    C O N T R O L"


[28-Aug-19 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://derpibooru.org/images/1661835#comment_8412401>


[28-Aug-19 04:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The only reason people like Dylan Roof and Tarrant exist is because people like you sit in your ivory tower above reproach, act like an asshole to people you don’t like, and then groups of loners that don’t have that same position decide they just don’t want to live on a planet with you anymore. It’s that simple. Don’t try to put morality on your bully behavior.`


[28-Aug-19 04:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole thread is a giant shitshow


[28-Aug-19 04:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But wew


[28-Aug-19 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, the liberal ideology of boiling everything down to a problem with people as individuals.


[28-Aug-19 05:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Try to teach kids not to bully others


[28-Aug-19 05:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>"You're making them into snowflakes!"


[28-Aug-19 05:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Loner kid does this shit


[28-Aug-19 05:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>"It's you're fault for allowing bullying!"


[28-Aug-19 05:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Despite most claims to the contrary, Klebold and Harris didn't shoot up Columbine because of Doom or because of Nazism but because they were bullied. They moved into the Columbine school district having come from a more rural district where they were top of their class but well positioned in the school social structure. But being the alien country kids to a more suburban middle-class highschool they were fresh meat in a culture that promoted bullying by its inaction. Columbine had such a prevalent bullying culture that the jocks of the school were known to literally bowl kids down the halls on slicked down floors or force kids to push pennies with their noses. The super-intendant didn't do anything about it, because he was one of them at one time; and like them he was a popular kid. Thus was created an atmosphere of unchecked violence that broke Harris and Klebold who in their video diaries complained about the abuse, racism, and apologized to their families for the terror they sought to bring.


[28-Aug-19 05:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
For a few months after their failed total annihilation of Columbine there was a false sense of solidarity in the community. Then the culture re-asserted itself and students began literally murdering one another. For a time after.


[28-Aug-19 05:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
At the next major middle-class school shooting one of the pastors in the community Columbine was in called up a pastor in the next afflicted community to warn him that the feeling of solidarity and community strength that came at the end of their shooting would not last. He did not believe him. Like Columbine, the culture of violence re-asserted itself and the community returned to normal. The second pastor called to apologize for doubting.


[28-Aug-19 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-climate-change-global-warming-g7-1456421

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President Donald Trump said he would not lose American energy domi...
"I'm not going to lose that wealth, I'm not going to lose it on dreams," he said. "I want clean air, I want clean water, I want a wealthy country... I'm an environmentalist."
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[28-Aug-19 05:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk Zero tolerance doesn't end in shootings at the very least


[28-Aug-19 05:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you physically bully someone in school you should be treated like how an adult would be.


[28-Aug-19 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Aug-19 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But Its, that might ruin a good kid's career prospectives!


[28-Aug-19 05:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If an adult forces another adult to shove pennies up their nose by force, they deserve to have their prospectives ruined


[28-Aug-19 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Leopards ate my face


[28-Aug-19 05:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
According to Mark Ames' book Going Postal the school atmosphere also replicates the social-political structure in offices and buisiness elsewhere. So it arguably becomes a self-enforcing machine. Tackling bullying in school requires tackling bullying in the office and a whole-sale shift in relationships in and outside of school.


[28-Aug-19 05:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because if people who hold others down are the ones to rise, then they'll be the only ones to get ahead. Not hard work.


[28-Aug-19 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Need big propaganda posters that connect bullying to mass shootings maybe


[28-Aug-19 06:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Hey yo this continued Reaganomics experiment is shit, maybe we should rebalance labor relations."


[28-Aug-19 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"So you;re saying CEO's should be executed in the streets while we shove homeless children into communist work camps!!!???"


[28-Aug-19 07:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/08/27/lindsey_graham_warns_trump_there_will_be_another_911_if_us_troops_leave_afghanistan.html

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Sen. Lindsey Graham warned President Trump Tuesday morning on "Fox & Friends" that if he follows through with his stated objective of ending the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan, "there will be another 9/11."

"You may be tired of fighting radical Islam, but they're not tired o...
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[28-Aug-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm so shocked that lindsey grahm is sayign this...


[28-Aug-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was such an avid avoider of war before this moment


[28-Aug-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking "zero tolerance" bullying policies don't operate anything remotely like adult legal enforcement


[28-Aug-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
they treat both parties as presumed guilty, never allow them to prove innocence, and do excessive punishment


[28-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Where in an adult situation, a court would figure out which guy was at fault and talk about *mens rea* and all that, and you're presumed innocent.


[28-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, out in the real world, what Captain Marvel did to the guy who touched her map


[28-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
is legally okay


[28-Aug-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
he committed assault by creating an unwanted invasion of her space and she responded in self-defense.


[28-Aug-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any "zero tolerance" bullying policy would've suspended him for a week and expelled her.


[28-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also a judge would've probably just given the guy the lightest possible punishment.


[28-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way "zero tolerance" policies reflect real life is that the punishments are often excessive, much like drug laws.


[28-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's **not a good thing to replicate**


[28-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
excessive punishments do not deter or correct human behavior.


[28-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Deterrence is solely on the expectation of being caught, and in business, weighing the financial values too.


[28-Aug-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm glad I went to a private school where the worst "bully" was afraid of me


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you actually want to stop bullying, you start by having therapists bring the bullies in and ask them in detail why they did what they did.


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Using camera footage


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(as in he was a blowhard twerp wannabe)


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course you need to hav said cameras to begin with but like


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you can catch them early


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and make it clear you will catch them


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and figure out what's going on


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Worst problem the school had was some kids selling weed


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you can generally solve the problem.


[28-Aug-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bullies think they're untouchable.


[28-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah forced therapy could work but it could also backfire majorly


[28-Aug-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's better than excessive punishments even for victims


[28-Aug-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
that ALWAYS bakkfires


[28-Aug-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I think the queen has outlived her usefulness.


[28-Aug-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
At 93, she should retire.


[28-Aug-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop pretending she actually has a role to play in Brexit etc.


[28-Aug-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh fukk https://twitter.com/non_bona_dicta/status/1166399004206350339

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@TheDCSentinel WHOA WHOA WHOA Biden wrote in Promise Me Dad that Beau's family struggled to pay for his medical care and that Obama paid it for them so Joe didn't have to take out a second mortgage on his house. This was published in 2017, what the hell (via Promise Dad, K...
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[28-Aug-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Biden's ad didn't just argue in bad faith by conflating Trump's camp with Warren's camp on healthcare and use the dead son as a pawn


[28-Aug-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it did so with a lie


[28-Aug-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
the ACA in fact did not get Beau all the care he needed


[28-Aug-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama had to foot the bill


[28-Aug-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK BIDEN


[28-Aug-19 08:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasa-astronaut-wife-space-crimes-frightened

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NASA astronaut spouse’s family claims they were ‘frightened’...
The estranged wife of Anne McClain said she went public with the NASA astronaut's alleged financial and identity theft crimes — which may be the first criminal offenses to occur in space — after her family became "frightened" by McClain's demands during a bitter cus...
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[28-Aug-19 09:04 PM] ononim#8141
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#BREAKING Lebanese army fires at Israeli drone: state media
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[28-Aug-19 09:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i have no idea what or where lebanese is


[28-Aug-19 09:06 PM] ononim#8141
Just north of israel


[28-Aug-19 09:07 PM] ononim#8141
it's sandwiched between it in the south, Syria in the north and east and Sea on the west


[28-Aug-19 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
Israely army started to strike alleged Hezbolah bases there recently, without the government premission, and said what any retailation to drones will be viewed as an act of war


[28-Aug-19 09:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/08/26/752815573/study-questions-mainstay-treatment-for-mild-asthma

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Study Questions Mainstay Treatment For Mild Asthma
Many of the 26 million Americans with asthma use a low-dose steroid inhaler daily to prevent symptoms. But a recent study raises questions about this strategy for people with mild, persistent asthma.
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[28-Aug-19 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Aug-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Day#Wife_training_project

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Thomas Day (22 June 1748 – 28 September 1789) was a British author and abolitionist. He was well known for the book The History of Sandford and Merton (1783–1789) which emphasized Rousseauvian educational ideals.
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[28-Aug-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`he tried to train a wife. After failing to find the perfect wife (several women including Honora Sneyd and her sister Elizabeth turned down his proposals of marriage), he decided to adopt two foundlings from orphanages and, using Rousseau's maxims, educate them to be the perfect wife (two would ensure that one of them worked out). He adopted a 12-year-old and an 11-year-old whom he renamed Sabrina Sidney and Lucretia and took them to France to educate them in isolation. The girls became ill, and quarrelled. Day decided to give up on Lucretia, who he did not think could satisfy him intellectually. Sabrina he felt was still a possibility, but her character had to be further strengthened. After dropping hot wax on her arms and hearing her scream, though, he gave up in despair.`

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[28-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Day was thrown from his horse while trying to break it using kindness at Barehill, Berkshire, on 28 September 1789 and died almost instantly`


[28-Aug-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tries hot wax to teach children how to be wives and tries kindness on horses to break them...what a way to get your wires crossed.


[28-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did not expect to read this shit on a page about an abolitionist


[28-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
A big problem with the enlightenment is that people were so eager to try new ideas they didn't always actually use any solid grounding.


[28-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you would hav all kinds of wakky shit that made no sense, and some of it led to revolutions.


[28-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which then resulted in rulers despising enlightenment ideas as a whole.


[28-Aug-19 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
I dunno chief


[28-Aug-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rousseauvian education basically is about trying to teach kids cause and effect so they reason by doing highly structured exercises btw


[28-Aug-19 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
"Maybe divine right is not so big of a shit after all" might have been a bigger factor


[28-Aug-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Idea being once you get them to think things thru they basically teach themselves.


[28-Aug-19 09:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632

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Parliament to be suspended in September
The controversial move is approved by the Queen's Privy Council as critics call it a "constitutional outrage".
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[28-Aug-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also it uses 12 as a cutoff age so like


[28-Aug-19 09:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Queen approved.


[28-Aug-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
rounding up 12-year-old orphans and giving them a tiny bit of moral lessons followed by OKAY NOW THINK ON YOUR OWN


[28-Aug-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
is not a good plan.


[28-Aug-19 09:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Brits think they are living in a democracy.
Royals are protecting pedos AGAIN and approving plans to prevent any voting in parilment. It's a monarchy.


[28-Aug-19 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SECOND ENGLISH CIVIL WAR TIME


[28-Aug-19 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
COMMONWEALTH OF GREAT BRITAIN GANG


[28-Aug-19 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Queen has no real power over such requests


[28-Aug-19 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the same in every european constitutional monarchy


[28-Aug-19 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just a rubber stamp for the prime minister


[28-Aug-19 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Queen denying a petition like that would just incite calls for the monarchy to be abolished because how dare the royals get involved in politics


[28-Aug-19 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I hope the sticky sheets they put on glass to catch the shards when it shatters will still be affordable.

Window on newer houses tend to be bigger and weaker to a sudden blast. I don't want to have to brush that shit up.


[28-Aug-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
People like building greenhouses for some reason


[28-Aug-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did this Day guy inspire the Marquis de Sade?


[28-Aug-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wait he was inspired by a book that de Sade later mocked


[28-Aug-19 10:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/world/asia/hong-kong-communist-china.html

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From the Shadows, China’s Communist Party Mobilizes Against Hong...
In Hong Kong, the party is officially nonexistent, but it is in the vanguard of an increasingly firm pushback against the demonstrations.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/08/22/world/00hk-chinacamp-1/00hk-chinacamp-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is


[28-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prince Andrew is in deep shit if anything turns up


[28-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The PM is a joke


[28-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit is a disaster


[28-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Queen approving this shit *now* is a really bad look.


[28-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
There will be calls to abolish the monarchy.


[28-Aug-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Queen could've rejected it and called for a formal investigation on Prince Andrew at the same time and looked like she was actually active, and sure the right would complain but the monarchy likely wouldn't be called to be abolished.


[28-Aug-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is going to go *very* badly.


[28-Aug-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
Out with Windosrs, in with the random cat


[28-Aug-19 11:01 PM] ononim#8141
Was it Twain who come up with that, I can't remember


[28-Aug-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456099146001285142/616364392832958464/IMG_20190828_140955.jpg

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[28-Aug-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Tribe of primitive men in lush landmass we just discovered to the west of the ocean could benefit from our faith in christ"


[28-Aug-19 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait this seems like satire


[28-Aug-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it is


[28-Aug-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Darn


[28-Aug-19 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is, the original article is about how scientists think Earth actually kinda sucks for life compared to what's out there


[28-Aug-19 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Always double check, kids!*


[28-Aug-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS website always has some baity "lol watch Biden blink slowly" style top-article, and a lot of fluff pieces about soldiers coming home to happy dogs or whatever


[28-Aug-19 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But the bulk of the "news" is generally fine, mostly because they just repost AP articles


[29-Aug-19 12:27 AM] ononim#8141

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[29-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I actually squinted reading that


[29-Aug-19 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
...


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
what?????


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he means natives?


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's saying that like


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
France and America are why Brazil's native people own any land at all


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's blaming imperial powers on a lakk of imperialism.


[29-Aug-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
okay if he means native americans that would actually be coherent even if it's totally irrelevant


[29-Aug-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought he meant _indians_


[29-Aug-19 12:43 AM] ononim#8141
Yes he means natives


[29-Aug-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah he did the american thing


[29-Aug-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gillibrand dropped out.


[29-Aug-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who?


[29-Aug-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh she;s the one who ripped into harris


[29-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She was the blonde woman in the debates


[29-Aug-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyway, that means polls can boost Williamson, then!


[29-Aug-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay!


[29-Aug-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
love for 2020!


[29-Aug-19 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this election needs more pictures of spiderman!


[29-Aug-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Aug-19 01:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The one that ripped into Harris is Gabbard


[29-Aug-19 01:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Kamala's supporters are out having a field day today because she didn't qualify for the debates


[29-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let me guess


[29-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
not enuff donor dosh.


[29-Aug-19 01:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
She had enough unique donors


[29-Aug-19 01:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
She never got that last approved poll


[29-Aug-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Harris had supporters?


[29-Aug-19 01:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[29-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I mean, sure, people list her as "top pick" in polls for some reason


[29-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But who goes out and says "Harris" is my top pick for 2020" in public?


[29-Aug-19 01:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
People do


[29-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's just a speedbump for other candidates to train on


[29-Aug-19 01:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems a lot of them are African-Americans


[29-Aug-19 01:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which makes sense


[29-Aug-19 01:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I personally started backing Yang only because I am Asian and I was kinda biased towards him from the get-go


[29-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I back Yang because I want my thousand bucks


[29-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Now, we still agree on most things, so that's why I'm still backing him


[29-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That too lol


[29-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But to say Harris "doesn't have top-pick supporters" is really discounting quite a few voters


[29-Aug-19 01:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They appear in most polls, after all


[29-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole "former DA" thing isn't a good look


[29-Aug-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/c39iodu917j31.jpg

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[29-Aug-19 01:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's true, and Gabbard capitalized on it during debate 2


[29-Aug-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thelily.com/she-reported-her-sexual-assault-her-high-school-suspended-her-for-sexual-impropriety/

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She reported her sexual assault. Her high school suspended her for...
A new court case in Georgia highlights a trend of high schools retaliating against women and girls.


[29-Aug-19 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[29-Aug-19 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Aug-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JustinWhang/status/1166518657452781569

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Justin Whang 🐙 (@JustinWhang)
https://twitter.com/JustinWhang/status/1166518657452781569
Why does he get knocked back like a Mortal Kombat character? https://t.co/5LSZVn20w3
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Twitter


[29-Aug-19 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/d6i5Ylu0mgM

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Folding Ideas
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Minecraft, Sandboxes, and Colonialism | Folding Ideas
Clickbait title: OOPS! Did I Do A Colonialism In Minecraft?! This video has been "done" for a while now, but I had a lot of trouble finishing it owing to a l...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/d6i5Ylu0mgM/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Aug-19 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
The interplay of systems and institutions replicated in video games, and how the perspective of these videos is related by them being in the developed world. And how these sorts of things are contextualized to us: the player. Even in open-world sandbox games.


[29-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao what


[29-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
also the shaders in that video are horrible


[29-Aug-19 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
The skinny: guy with his private server with his friends and family opted to relocate a village of villagers to make them more convenient, and realized they just did a colonialism


[29-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Mikey#7286
o


[29-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Mikey#7286
well they'd commit suicide anyway cuz villagers don't know how to stay out of trouble


[29-Aug-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
In a Discord chat I'm in this was posted in anger, because how dare they let this happen. So I had to add that: you know, may be keep it but also add some mechanics into the game for commentary purposes.


[29-Aug-19 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like you can still forcibly displace them, but something arises from it that may not always be, or is not good


[29-Aug-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude it's minecraft


[29-Aug-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile ibxtoycat is over here like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdOYsW3YhaQ

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I Ran A Minecraft Server Like The Most Democratic Country
The Democratic Peoples Republic Of Korea is the original clickbait title right? Minecraft Bedrock is the same as Minecraft Windows 10, Minecraft Pocket Editi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VdOYsW3YhaQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[29-Aug-19 04:22 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[29-Aug-19 04:53 AM] Litrojia#0612
not the first to mention it but
🦀 gillibrand is out 🦀

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[29-Aug-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yup


[29-Aug-19 06:44 AM] illumnious#7938
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[29-Aug-19 07:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And there there was #TulsiDidntQualifyParty


[29-Aug-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/63343a1c5866403ab7c5e06abbd0e202

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Farmers' loyalty to Trump tested over new corn-ethanol rules
LACONA, Iowa (AP) — When President Donald Trump levied tariffs on China that scrambled global markets, farmer Randy Miller was willing to absorb the financial hit. Even as the soybeans in his...
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[29-Aug-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The trigger wasn’t Trump’s China tariffs, but the waivers the administration granted this month to 31 oil refineries so they don’t have to blend ethanol into their gasoline. Since roughly 40% of the U.S. corn crop is turned into ethanol, it was a fresh blow to corn producers already struggling with five years of low commodity prices and the threat of mediocre harvests this fall after some of the worst weather in years.


[29-Aug-19 12:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump not caring about the small guy?


[29-Aug-19 12:50 PM] Mikey#7286
You don't say!


[29-Aug-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/shocker-shocked-futurama-imshocked-gif-5296191

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I'm SHOCKED! - Futurama
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[29-Aug-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/kentucky-principal-who-tried-ban-lgbt-books-arrested-possessing-distributing-child-pornography-1456697

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Kentucky principal who tried to ban LGBT books arrested for posses...
In 2009, Phillip Todd Wilson tried to ban books with "homosexual content" from the Montgomery County High School.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1523778/phillip-todd-wilson.jpg


[29-Aug-19 01:58 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[29-Aug-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Anarcho-capitalism is just bdsm with corporations


[29-Aug-19 03:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/amazon-rainforest-fires-jair-bolsonaro-ngo-san-paolo-a9075071.html

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Brazil's president is actively trying to devastate the Amazon rain...
Brazil’s government plans to build bridge, motorway and hydroelectric plant through world's largest jungle
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/08/22/16/bolsonaro-fires-1.jpg


[29-Aug-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/8chan-users-are-moving-to-discord-where-your-kids-are-playing-video-games/

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8chan users are moving to Discord, where your kids are playing vid...
White supremacists, violent militias, and cybercriminals are chatting on the same mobile app used by kids to discuss popular video games like Fortnite and Minecraft
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[29-Aug-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how not to find 8chan by cbs


[29-Aug-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because children go to plush fucking serrvers to play video games


[29-Aug-19 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/071b3fe3e4484a6aa5d8162bf8839dac

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China rotates new troops into Hong Kong amid mass protests
HONG KONG (AP) — China's military deployed fresh troops to Hong Kong on Thursday in what it called a routine rotation amid speculation that it might intervene in the city's pro-democracy...
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[29-Aug-19 04:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://shoinwolfe.itch.io/the-donald-trump-simulator

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The Donald Trump Simulator by shoinwolfe
Simulate Donald Trump's Vision of America, today!
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[29-Aug-19 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-student-planning-mass-shooting-university-police/story?id=65251942

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College student arrested with guns was planning mass shooting, pol...
The suspect told authorities that he came to North Carolina because it was easier to gain access to guns.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/stebner-ht-er-190828_hpMain_v4x3_16x9_992.jpg


[29-Aug-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Aug-19 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
Revolution | Genocide
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Weed         | AKSHUALLY IT'S EPHEBOPHILIA


[29-Aug-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
12 would actually be close to how it was in 1488 and how it still is in places that didn't adopt the exact western idea where you set it to high teens to protect the purity of rich guys' daughters.


[29-Aug-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Libertarian quadrant should be like, 0


[29-Aug-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mix of AoC joke and a lot of them being religious nuts.


[29-Aug-19 08:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[29-Aug-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
(also considering the upper right quadrant is like, Epstein...)


[29-Aug-19 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇮🇪 guy who was afk for the whole match.


[29-Aug-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1684ee01b6754c44bf728f2bb1b22fac

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Mumps sickens hundreds of detained migrants in 19 states
Mumps has swept through 57 immigration detention facilities in 19 states since September, according to the first U.S. government report on the outbreaks in the overloaded immigration...
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[29-Aug-19 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
this is the point of concentration camps


[29-Aug-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the dumbest arguement against them being concentration camps i;ve seen is someone threw up a photoof a limp chicken sandwich on a plate held by a "migrant child"


[29-Aug-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e2872a46eb3e43bd928707bba2f2c031

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US calls for rescinding rules on oil industry methane leaks
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration moved Thursday to revoke Obama-era regulations on climate-changing methane leaks from oil facilities, a proposal that environmental advocates said would...
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[29-Aug-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
um


[29-Aug-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf?


[29-Aug-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if he doesn;t eradicate every obama policyt, and burn the world with fire, than is he really a good rpesident?


[29-Aug-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically he;s now working on passing avery little thing lobbyists have demanded for years now


[29-Aug-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even lobbyists don't seem to want this


[29-Aug-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no thye really dont


[29-Aug-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hels going overboard now


[29-Aug-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is their genie int he worst ways possible


[29-Aug-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like someone told him "this helps the environment" and I guess it's gotta go


[29-Aug-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is also probably running on pure venomous spite at this point


[29-Aug-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The G7 wants to discuss climate change and ask bolsanaro to change his ways? well this means war on environmentalists and conservationists to an extreme degree.


[29-Aug-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet there will also be a lot of false flag deportations to aid in removing property obstacles in his way of the wall


[29-Aug-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the election is coming and he;s going into offense


[29-Aug-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon no


[29-Aug-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
it's "obama did this", so it has to go


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Obama did this" plus "my base doesn't like it"


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
his base doesn't give a shit about this


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, they do


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
they see regulations like this as HURTIN' THE RURAL AREAS


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, no matter what the regulation is


[29-Aug-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
unless it says DRILL BABY DRILL, it's bad


[29-Aug-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody said _anything_ about it when it was implemented


[29-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Correct


[29-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't understand what it is.


[29-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want to understand what it is.


[29-Aug-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just know that it regulates oil companies where they liv.


[29-Aug-19 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
fwiw, the oil industry considers methane leaks to be a loss and would prefer to recover as much as possible since it is so profitable


[29-Aug-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-react-trump-g7-summit-russian-asset-2019-8

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US spies say Trump's G7 performance suggests he's either a 'Russia...
"President Trump's behavior over the weekend was a new low," an FBI agent told Insider, one of five intel veterans who raised concern about Trump.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d66ce612e22af17bf5289c7-2560-1280.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/new-low-trump-immigration-policy-seeks-deport-sick-dying-children-n1047901

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Trump administration seeks to deport children with life-threatenin...
'This administration is now deporting kids with cancer," said Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., calling it "a new low, even for Donald Trump."
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_35/2989966/190829-boston-immigrants-deportation-2-ew-125p_33f11c10b9f2eccefe28d6d443f8ffec.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
When deportation is cruel and unusual punishment.


[30-Aug-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-tweets-2020-campaign-ad-with-apparent-white-supremacist-logo-1.7767589

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Trump tweets 2020 campaign ad with logo used by white supremacists
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https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.7726812.1566345076!/image/4224835363.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/4224835363.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That site hates adblokk.


[30-Aug-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-campaign-video-featuring-image-used-white-supremacist-group-1456785

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Donald Trump shares campaign video featuring image used by a white...
The lion head logo appeared at the end of a "Keep American Great" campaign video shared by the president on Wednesday.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1523923/donald-trump-2020-logo-white-supremacy.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope these people realize that they're basically ensuring that we have Ocasio-Cortez as president one day.


[30-Aug-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or someone nearly just like her, but who is genuinely for open borders/federally funded abortions etc


[30-Aug-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's inevitable either way.


[30-Aug-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's group is just plain boomers.


[30-Aug-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once they're dead, nothing is stopping millennials.


[30-Aug-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are trying to cement things as hard and for as long as possible now


[30-Aug-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
knowing that they can't stop progress, but they can wound it.


[30-Aug-19 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>implying it wouldn't be such a far left president that they wouldn't go to extreme measures to uncripple it


[30-Aug-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, that's either way.


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could become president today and whoever comes in after would be like MEDICARE ABORTIONS FOR ALL


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was literally what Warren and Bernie were saying


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and very few others oppose it.


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, you must realize


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally in politics


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
once a generation hits the 50+ range, they come into power


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this isn't normal


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
we hav 98% reelection of senators


[30-Aug-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are still SILENTS in congress


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Power hasn't been passed on to Gen X


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means Millennials hav become hardline


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Biden would do anything but sit on his ass and let the progressives control


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sitting on his ass leads to Millennial progressives bulldozing.


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's gonna pick Bernie or Warren and let them do most of the talking.


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing anything leads to Millennial progressives bulldozing.


[30-Aug-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The strategy he is going for


[30-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to enjoy a few moments in the sun


[30-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
where he can halt medicare for all


[30-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
from paying for treatment for people like his son


[30-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
by saying the system we've got now paid for treatment for his son when it didn't.


[30-Aug-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The change he'll allow is NOT QUALITY ONLY AFFORDABLE


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless, I think he could win and like, I don't feel like I could ever vote for Trump given my differences


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Gen X had taken power


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
had been given power rather


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
we would be in a very different scenario


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be taking the positions that Biden is


[30-Aug-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Biden would be a Republican


[30-Aug-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then they'd be arguing with Booker over whether to go liberal while Bernie looks like a crakkpot.


[30-Aug-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers allowed Republicans to become Southern.


[30-Aug-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're rewriting history by claiming the Southern Strategy never happened.


[30-Aug-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what better way for the south to rise again, than to say they never fell in the first place


[30-Aug-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about preying on old Boomers


[30-Aug-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using them as a vehicle to fight progress


[30-Aug-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
REMEMBER DA FIFTIES WHEN BLAKKS WERE SEGREGATED


[30-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as Boomers are dying in droves


[30-Aug-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The strategy fails.


[30-Aug-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Gen X, the next best target, hasn't been handed the torch


[30-Aug-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'll go straight to Millennials.


[30-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, do realize, Its, Democrats rewrite history all the time for their most conservative candidates


[30-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary would never admit to changing position


[30-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
neither does Biden


[30-Aug-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden literally rewrote history ABOUT HIS SON DYING for an ad


[30-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
His son was getting VA care but wouldn't be able to afford everything still so Obama pikked up the bill


[30-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden claimed the ACA was what got the guy care.


[30-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's only been TWO YEARS


[30-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he changed the story to fit the politics.


[30-Aug-19 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjghJ6Dy6Do

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Jonathan Pie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjghJ6Dy6Do
Boris Suspends Democracy
No matter which way you voted, our democracy is looking pretty shitty right now. For tickets to see Jonathan Pie: The FAKE NEWS Tour go to https://www.jonath...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bjghJ6Dy6Do/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a fukking plague.


[30-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't talk about Boomers without reposting this


[30-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc4EFXQ7d_M

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Grimy Ghost!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc4EFXQ7d_M
BOOMER HUMOR
You too can enjoy the greatest baby boomer Vegas entertainment around! Grab your grandparents today to appreciate this high art on the strip!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xc4EFXQ7d_M/hqdefault.jpg


[30-Aug-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel dirty for a mild chuckle at some of these


[30-Aug-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair most of it was laughing _at_ him


[30-Aug-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3024852/policeman-who-pointed-shotgun-hong-kong-protesters-among-10?

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Policeman who defended himself by pointing shotgun at Hong Kong pr...
Officer, surnamed Lau, became hero in mainland China after July 30 incident when he was surrounded by protesters, despite criticism in Hong Kong.
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[30-Aug-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1098290-globalfounderies-issue-patient-infringement-lawsuit-against-tsmc-seeking-to-ban-imports-on-apple-phone-nvidia-and-pixel-phone-chips/

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Globalfounderies issue patient infringement lawsuit against TSMC s...
Quote GlobalFoundries (GF) today announced that it filed lawsuits against Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) in the U.S. and Germany over the alleged infringement of 16 patents. The company said that its looking to halt the import of processors made with the te...


[30-Aug-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like this sort of thing happens every once in a while, but nothing ever comes of it


[30-Aug-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
most of the time, it just seems like desperate calls for attention though


[30-Aug-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta get those royalties.


[30-Aug-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2019/08/29/trumps-mar-a-lago-is-in-the-projected-path-of-hurricane-dorian/

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https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2019/08/29/trumps-mar-a-lago-is-in-the-projected-path-of-hurricane-dorian/
Trump’s Mar-a-Lago is in the projected path of Hurricane Dorian ...
Could the storm hit Florida near the Winter White House? It’s possible.
https://www.tampabay.com/resizer/yz8vUCl4SJXAnFqE4wmHAHIkSDk=/800x450/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tbt.s3.amazonaws.com/public/HQSLO7O2IFDKTFR7RLY2ECCREQ.jpg


[30-Aug-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
welp, I see a plan B nuke site


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically all of Florida is in the projected path right now.


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the hurricane could hit as category 5


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it'll solve the hurricane AND the bedbugs all at once!


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This could be storm of the decade.


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[30-Aug-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch Trump divert TONS of resources unlike with Puerto Rico


[30-Aug-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what if he doesn't


[30-Aug-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, what if wol™ is the bigger national emergency


[30-Aug-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the Puerto Ricans who moved to Florida will be even more upset because they went to the white area and still got worse resources than Texas.


[30-Aug-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's one thing to be racist against the brown people, it's another to do it to such an extreme that you still shit on them when they're in a mostly white area.


[30-Aug-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Donald J Trump doesn't care about Florida Man"- Kanye, 2019


[30-Aug-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
wol™


[30-Aug-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
lul


[30-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
nah, it'll only be palm beach county that gets all the resources


[30-Aug-19 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
the rest of florida will suffer


[30-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
watch mar-a-lago fold like a stack of cards


[30-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
because of cheap shitty construction


[30-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
wait wtf, mar-a-lago is listed as a national historic landmark


[30-Aug-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

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Mar-a-Lago
Mar-a-Lago () is a resort and national historic landmark in Palm Beach, Florida, built from 1924 to 1927 by cereal-company heiress and socialite Marjorie Merriweather Post. The 126-room, 62,500-square-foot (5,810 m2) mansion contains the Mar-a-Lago Club, a members-only club w...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/MaralagoLoC.jpg/1200px-MaralagoLoC.jpg


[30-Aug-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course it is.


[30-Aug-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
it was declared such in 1980, before trump bought the property


[30-Aug-19 07:02 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I bet it's a scam for tax evasion:twismug:


[30-Aug-19 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
> At the time of her death in 1973, Post bequeathed the property to the National Park Service, hoping it could be used for state visits or as a Winter White House, but because the costs of maintaining the property exceeded the funds provided by Post, and it was difficult to secure the facility (as it is located in the flight path of Palm Beach Airport), the property was returned to the Post Foundation by an Act of Congress in 1981.


[30-Aug-19 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
> In 1985, Mar-a-Lago was purchased by Donald Trump. His wife at the time, Ivana Trump, was charged with running the property. Trump retained Mar-a-Lago through both of his divorces. His family maintains private quarters in a separate, closed-off area of the house and grounds. Trump has frequently visited there as president of the United States, referring to it as the Winter White House and his "Southern White House." Mar-a-Lago has been used to host meetings for President Trump and international leaders, including Japanese prime minister Shinzō Abe and Chinese paramount leader Xi Jinping. It is the second largest mansion in the state of Florida and the 21st largest mansion in the United States.


[30-Aug-19 08:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/5/20754974/youtube-soph-account-termination-lgbtq

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/5/20754974/youtube-soph-account-termination-lgbtq
YouTube removes account of far-right creator Soph for hate speech
After months of publishing disturbing videos.
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[30-Aug-19 10:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/asia/hong-kong-joshua-wong-arrest-intl-hnk/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/asia/hong-kong-joshua-wong-arrest-intl-hnk/index.html
Joshua Wong and other Hong Kong pro-democracy leaders arrested ahe...
High-profile pro-democracy leaders were arrested Friday in Hong Kong, in an apparent roundup of activists ahead of what will be the 13th consecutive weekend of mass protests in the Asian financial hub.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190830093305-joshua-wong-0702-super-tease.jpg


[30-Aug-19 11:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b0b1034de6d24fd4b0dd2f9367442449

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Trump eyes mental institutions as answer to gun violence
WASHINGTON (AP) — When shots rang out last year at a high school in Parkland, Florida, leaving 17 people dead, President Donald Trump quickly turned his thoughts to creating more mental...
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[30-Aug-19 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/27/lip-reading-cctv-will-have-people-cupping-hands-mouths-street/

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Lip-reading CCTV will have people 'cupping hands over their mouths...
People will be left "cupping their hands over their mouths" in the street if new lip-reading CCTV is not reined in, the Government’s surveillance watchdog has warned.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2019/08/27/TELEMMGLPICT000207548809-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqZgEkZX3M936N5BQK4Va8RWtT0gK_6EfZT336f62EI5U.jpeg


[30-Aug-19 01:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool, cool


[30-Aug-19 01:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's 2019 and I'm being asked for what reason would I want to make nazis mad by mocking them


[30-Aug-19 03:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Response:


[30-Aug-19 03:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/3MlNWYyVdh0

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Natezul
https://youtu.be/3MlNWYyVdh0
The game is fun.
This is actually probably my favorite quote from Reggie. 2019 edit: RIP Reggie. Original - https://youtu.be/Z-g7lXaymA8 #Reggie #Meme #TheGameIsFun
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[30-Aug-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-Aug-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
New meme test https://leftvalues.github.io/index.html


[30-Aug-19 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/617015822262468629/to_use_drones_for_ju.jpg

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[30-Aug-19 05:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's the future.


[30-Aug-19 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=68.8&b=63.5&c=0.0&d=77.3&e=25.0&f=7.5


[30-Aug-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
yes I really did get 100% decentralist


[30-Aug-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but that is probably not surprising to anyone who knows me


[30-Aug-19 05:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ahh, another Eco-Anarchist.


[30-Aug-19 05:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone I know has been getting that or Eco-MArxist


[30-Aug-19 05:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/indonesia-new-capital-borneo-jakarta-scli-intl/index.html

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Indonesia picks site for new capital as Jakarta sinks
A jungle-covered area on the east of Borneo island is set to be transformed into Indonesia's new capital city, the country's President Joko Widodo has announced.
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[30-Aug-19 06:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/officials-confirm-israel-air-raid-iraq-190823094346731.html

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US officials confirm Israel air raid in Iraq
Attack marks significant escalation in Israel's campaign against what it sees as Iranian military entrenchment in Iraq.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/8/23/066bc06610484461b591567410d13f77_18.jpg


[30-Aug-19 06:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump personal assistant Madeleine Westerhout resigns https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-personal-assistant-madeleine-westerhout-abruptly-resigns-n1048166

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Trump personal assistant Madeleine Westerhout resigns
Madeleine Westerhout abruptly quit after sharing personal information about the first family at an off-the-record dinner with reporters.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_35/2991021/190830-madeleine_westerhout-mc-1125_7c46b40e97622482fe6f6432343cca50.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[30-Aug-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9231894fd9bf451e92a6ba64e3c68dc2

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Mexico's new drug war may be worse than old one
COATZACOALCOS, Mexico (AP) — Mexico's drug war appears to be back — and it may be worse this time around than in the bloody years of the government's 2006-2012 offensive against drug...
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[30-Aug-19 06:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/starhopper-aces-test-sets-up-full-scale-prototype-flights-this-year/

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Starhopper aces test, sets up full-scale prototype flights this year
"The senator and his staff have been following the developments closely."
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[30-Aug-19 06:43 PM] ononim#8141

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[30-Aug-19 06:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Get on out, Blacks and Tans.

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[30-Aug-19 06:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhrUHSD6o

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Cuck Philosophy
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Learning about Marx with Peterson (feat. Anarchopac and Red Plateaus)
Cuck Philosophy: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSkzHxIcfoEr69MWBdo0ppg Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cuck Twitter: https://twitter.com/Philoso...
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[30-Aug-19 06:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or, related given the socialist tendencies of Irish liberation


[30-Aug-19 07:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksT1UDzTtY

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Senior Tories on proroguing parliament: then and now
The idea of suspending parliament to force through Brexit provoked unequivocal condemnation from senior Conservatives just weeks ago, with ministers expressi...
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[30-Aug-19 08:02 PM] ononim#8141
Power Level reveal time

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[30-Aug-19 08:03 PM] ononim#8141
*E N L I G H T E N E D   C E N T R I S M*


[30-Aug-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/media/alex-trebek-chemo-jeopardy/index.html

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Alex Trebek is done with chemotherapy and back at work on 'Jeopardy!'
Alex Trebek is back at work taping the new season of "Jeopardy!," five months after being diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190308154523-alex-trebek-super-tease.jpg


[30-Aug-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Politics" because "five months after being diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer."


[30-Aug-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(the same type of cancer RBG was treated for recently)


[30-Aug-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cancer treatments are getting better, at least for the rich and for those in other countries.


[30-Aug-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Woe betide you if you're a poor blakk woman in the US, the doctors might not even agree to the screening in the first place.


[30-Aug-19 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/766168a1c4cb4b70b8a30381963cf480

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DNC chairman effectively kills plans for virtual caucuses
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Democrats' plans for virtual presidential caucuses in Iowa and Nevada are effectively dead as the national party chairman said Friday the results would be vulnerable to...
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[30-Aug-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7x5b5a/doom-programmer-john-carmack-says-games-industry-doesnt-need-laws-against-crunch?

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'Doom' Programmer John Carmack Says Games Industry Doesn't Need La...
id Software founder John Carmack went on Joe Rogan to talk judo, the future of virtual reality, and labor in the video game industry.
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[30-Aug-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
no, programmers need to professionalize


[30-Aug-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
same as doctors or lawyers


[30-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So like uh


[30-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Take a state sanctioned exam?


[30-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Both of those professions work 70+ hour weeks as the norm btw


[30-Aug-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"He puts in 13-hour days and experiences a productivity drop off if he pushes it further. He feels guilty about working less than 60 hours a week."


[30-Aug-19 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is most any law firm. How much does a really good programmer etc make right out of school, btw? On average


[30-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be a cold day on the surface of the sun before I pity a lawyer


[30-Aug-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like say, at a AAA company for whom money is no object


[30-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like around $100k


[30-Aug-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For EA


[30-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Biglaw" had a push in the past years for $180k starting salary for new attorneys


[30-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like an arrogant Fight for Fifteen


[30-Aug-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Fresh out of school"? lolno


[30-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
First job out of school, somehow you're really good and work at EA or Ubisoft or something


[30-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How much


[30-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
45k euro


[30-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And 70 hours a week?


[30-Aug-19 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's "this guy's portfolio blew our mind" type stuff


[30-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The studios that run those hours are rarely the ones that pay that much to starters


[30-Aug-19 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not these days, anyway


[30-Aug-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least he's not mocking people I guess


[30-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he remembers how it was in his day


[30-Aug-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thinks everyone's just whiney


[30-Aug-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares if someone calls you whiny as long as you get what you want


[31-Aug-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d23d2a9c4a4745a298bdd3da884497f7

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Nancy who? GOP targets House Dem 'squad' in campaign attacks
WASHINGTON (AP) — Move over, Nancy Pelosi. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the "squad" of freshmen women of color are emerging as new stars of Republican attacks against Democrats running for...
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[31-Aug-19 12:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Tfw the Brazillian government is worse as the US


[31-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457

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[31-Aug-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
I got this


[31-Aug-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'm surprised reformist is so big


[31-Aug-19 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
considering other meme tests I've taken have said I'm more in the center on revolution vs reform


[31-Aug-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If these tests had any weight I'd probably be on a watchlist


[31-Aug-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
but all of them point towards social democracy or democratic socialist


[31-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
and social democracy is on the least extreme end of reform because it still has a capitalist system


[31-Aug-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
it treats capitalism as the wild, all-consuming beast it is and shackles it tightly


[31-Aug-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not that hung up on capitalism vs socialism tbh


[31-Aug-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
I don't personally care which system is used as long as it works well, the current system is most definitely not working well


[31-Aug-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism is horrid.


[31-Aug-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.npr.org/2019/08/30/755994591/president-trump-tweets-sensitive-surveillance-image-of-iran

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President Trump Tweets Sensitive Surveillance Image of Iran
The Friday afternoon tweet had experts picking up their jaws from the floor when they saw a photo of an Iranian space facility.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/08/30/diptych2_wide-9778e388c2467c37069ef5f5fa969dda803bfb37.jpg?s=1400


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, the photo is so high resolution that it's likely from a secret spy drone in Iran.


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
yup


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
its resolution is muuuuuch higher than anything publicly available


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just that


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pro-abolishing the concept of "family" and instituting totally-not-dystopian state-run systems to raise children from birth without relation to their parents


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's in the realm where it might not be physically possible to capture with a satellite


[31-Aug-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
due to atmospheric distortion.


[31-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't have any semblance of meritocracy when the deck is stacked on conception


[31-Aug-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism basically never really ended.


[31-Aug-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just money or inheritance, or even abuse


[31-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The amount of shit and imbalance there is just based on having good or bad parents or conditions at youth is absurd


[31-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when New York Mayor Bloomberg said in an interview he wouldn't send his kid to a public school?


[31-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
While claiming to be a champion of public schooling.


[31-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Defended himself saying he wants what's best for his kid and how dare you drag him into this


[31-Aug-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
left the interview.


[31-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No need to shackle capitalism


[31-Aug-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just keep it on tranquilizers constantly like a petting zoo animal


[31-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Heck, that's 20cm per pixel


[31-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Scary if from orbit


[31-Aug-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's likely copied from a printout or a high resolution screen


[31-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone must be hitting themselves right now about this.


[31-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They put out a great photo and Trump must've been like CAN I PUT THIS ON MY TWITTER IT'S A GREAT IMAGE GREAT LIKE AMERICA IS GREAT YOU KNOW?


[31-Aug-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then had to hurry and blot out whatever the upper left was


[31-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then watched him take a picture with his phone instead of having it sent to him properly


[31-Aug-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now some US asset could be endangered.


[31-Aug-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFlQ6fU4GM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFlQ6fU4GM
Sanders Defends Gay Soldiers, 1995
Sixteen years before "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ended, then-Rep. Bernie Sanders took to the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives to defend the "thousands ...
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[31-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
> "Liberals"
> "Homos"
> "Sit down socialist"
> Funny how the republican party has never changed or evolved, possibly became more stupid.


[31-Aug-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[31-Aug-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man I hate congressional procedure repetitiveness.


[31-Aug-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also really love the woman's question.


[31-Aug-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders is a beast


[31-Aug-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Do we have to call the gentleman a gentleman if he isn't a gentleman"


[31-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Do we have to call the gentleman a gentleman if he's not one?

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[31-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said "gentleman" is now a convicted felon.


[31-Aug-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> the homophobic congressman went to jail for about 8 years on charges of tax evasion, bribery and conspiracy, the longest sentence to be given to a former congressman


[31-Aug-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess the answer today is no :twismug:


[31-Aug-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
> Cunningham resigned from the House on November 28, 2005, after pleading guilty to accepting at least $2.4 million in bribes and under-reporting his taxable income for 2004. He pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion. He was sentenced to eight years and four months in prison and was ordered to pay $1.8 million in restitution.[1] On June 4, 2013, Cunningham completed his prison sentence and he currently lives in Arkansas.


[31-Aug-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
these guys get so pretend-mad about "big government"


[31-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that PBS almost got defunded in the Bush era because an Arthur spinoff showed a real life little girl who has two moms in a live action segment


[31-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And now we have Arthur's teacher getting married to another man


[31-Aug-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Things changed quickly.


[31-Aug-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not quikkly enuff.


[31-Aug-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
south park did it before it was cool


[31-Aug-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure Republicans would try to defund PBS over the same thing today.


[31-Aug-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
south park did it but southpark isnt on a publicly funded network either


[31-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but any time you hear "keep politics out of my show!" it's because the show had something too liberal


[31-Aug-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
never the reverse.


[31-Aug-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
keep politics out of my X is a conservative rallying cry


[31-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they really mean is "accept society the way it is and never hint at anything new even if society already changed"


[31-Aug-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't want public funding to be politics-neutral


[31-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want it to be Conservative


[31-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want public funds dumped into abstinence-only sex ed *that doesn't work* instead of programs that help little blakk boys not get exposed to fukking lead poisoning.


[31-Aug-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not hyperbole, that's what congress is actually doing right now.


[31-Aug-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans right now are, via executive order, preventing funds overseas from going to any healthcare that so much as mentions abortions.


[31-Aug-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would be a **massive first amendment violation** if it were done within US territory.


[31-Aug-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then they scream all day and night about how liberals are funding abortion and that's clearly amoral etc. etc.


[31-Aug-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, liberals aren't funding abortion.


[31-Aug-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
the constitution doesn't matter to conservatives


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are funding things so indirectly they're funding even so much as the concept of considering abortion.


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the president has admitted intent to defy SCOTUS if it ever rules against him


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't playing fair, it's not in their playbook to play fair.


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The court system is the greatest enemy to conservatism.


[31-Aug-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that's kind of ironic


[31-Aug-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
because in the past it was conservatism's greatest asset


[31-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they pakk every single judge position, there are still basic concepts in place like respecting scientific evidence.


[31-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also conservatism's greatest asset


[31-Aug-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative ideal is that judges exist to put discrimination into how sentencing is done.


[31-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges also exist to throw out liberal laws that try to change society etc.


[31-Aug-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want judges in place to write law to bypass legislatures.


[31-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But by fighting for such and getting it, they've essentially created a system where now it does that, but since conservatives' positions are unsupportable legally, it does so mostly for liberals.


[31-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So now you'll hear all this spiel about how JUDGES SHOULDN'T WRITE LAW and it's all targeted at like, SCOTUS enforcing the 14th amendment.


[31-Aug-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only judges should decide what the law is.


[31-Aug-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I recall hearing an anecdote about an appeals court that overturned a lower court's ruling because the prosecutor used Bayesian evidence


[31-Aug-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congress could write a law, and the judiciary decides the impact, even if Congress doesn't want it.


[31-Aug-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and of course there are wrongful convictions via expert testimony all the time because the "expert" was just trying to get the conviction


[31-Aug-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
or because the lab screwed up


[31-Aug-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is actually a dead documenter.


[31-Aug-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So much of the last 20 years has been spent by conservatives trying to write judge-proof laws.


[31-Aug-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
there is certainly respect for scientific evidence, but not the kind we need


[31-Aug-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And appoint law-proof judges.


[31-Aug-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Dead documenter" is misunderstanding their actual intent and tactics.


[31-Aug-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Judiciary is the least dangerous branch and should have the most power really


[31-Aug-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they really are is "dead document writer"


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to enact the constitution as envisioned by the most racist of the founders.


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
How it was believed to mean at the time.


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jefferson, then.


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
With layer upon layer of bias


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, they say the 14th amendment is illegitimate.


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it wasn't written in the bill of rights


[31-Aug-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives get hopping mad if you bring up jefferson being a deist and enforcing church/state separation


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that even if it is, it wasn't supposed to giv blakks and females rights.


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is talking about Roe being overturned


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they say the 1st amendment isn't supposed to support flag burners etc.


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The dream is Miranda being overturned


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
?


[31-Aug-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the miranda act i think


[31-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah they don't like the 14th Amendment at all


[31-Aug-19 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basdically it;s the right to be silent, and anything you say can and will be used agaisnt you


[31-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not an act


[31-Aug-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a SCOTUS decision


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They decided that until your rights are read and you say you understand


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the police can't use what you say in trial.


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I know, but why is that the dream


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only statements after saying you understand count.


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I never hear about that


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its they don't need to


[31-Aug-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thompkins.


[31-Aug-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically in Thompkins, a guy was silent for 3 hours


[31-Aug-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but police didn't accept this as exercising the right to remain silent and just kept at him


[31-Aug-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
he broke, and SCOTUS said that this is totally okay


[31-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This site is going to give me a stroke one day


[31-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So unless you EXPLICITLY say you wish to remain silent, police can mess with you.


[31-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Considering the police do not need to tell you this


[31-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and most people won't know


[31-Aug-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it ensures that nobody actually exercises such right.


[31-Aug-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Miranda's pretty much been dead since 2010, @Itsthinking


[31-Aug-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least, dead unless the suspect keeps up on supreme court rulings.


[31-Aug-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So any rich guy would know for sure


[31-Aug-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
your average teenage boy in the hood, uh uh.


[31-Aug-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, furthermore


[31-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
not only does remaining silent not be considered to exercise the right to remain silent.


[31-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also can be inferred to waive your rights.


[31-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/10/suspect-asks-for-a-lawyer-dog-willfully-ignorant-court-denies-comma-counsel/

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A Louisiana court was willing to look incredibly stupid to read in ambiguity.
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[31-Aug-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Kennedy.


[31-Aug-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I remember that one


[31-Aug-19 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
if there's any fucking going on it's fucking poor people and minorities


[31-Aug-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec893362cca0420683c4f4d2ae1af938

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DeVos issues new loan forgiveness rule for swindled students
WASHINGTON (AP) — Education Secretary Betsy DeVos late Friday issued a new rule on loan forgiveness for students defrauded by their colleges, a rewrite of Obama-era regulations that advocates say...
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[31-Aug-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah classic


[31-Aug-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
prevent them filing as a group


[31-Aug-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way nobody has the resources to bother


[31-Aug-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cripple class actions so they can't file as a group


[31-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hoping three buses run her over.


[31-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
One or two would be insufficient.


[31-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And in other areas, tort reform so the outrageous idea that someone recover when bad things happen doesn't happen


[31-Aug-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
"reform"


[31-Aug-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like "right to work."


[31-Aug-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
These rules wouldn't've flown in the middle ages.


[31-Aug-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People just get butthurt at large jury verdicts


[31-Aug-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure we're nearing a point where serfs had an easier time getting a favorable verdict.


[31-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
SOMETHING SOMETHING MCDONALDS COFFEE


[31-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That woman nearly fukking died


[31-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
because a mcdonalds had coffee at like 80 C


[31-Aug-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But all you'll hear on Facebook among boomers is that the woman clearly just slipped and it was her own fault.


[31-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
EIGHTY DEGREES CELSIUS IS TOO HOT TO PROVIDE AS FOOD OR BEVERAGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES


[31-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously that's like


[31-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the temperature you hav to cook Turkey to kill absolutely everything


[31-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish inquisition gave you a free lawyer and the worst that happened to most found guilty was, like, a fine


[31-Aug-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you're supposed to wait for it to cool down a bit before serving.


[31-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile in modern day america, you can get sued for a billion dollars and effectively turned into an outsourced indentured servant, or an outright slave if a cop "smelled weed" within 50 yards of your car


[31-Aug-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good news is that for the next like 4 months


[31-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cops actually can't use that excuse because the drug labs hav no way to prove it's not legal hemp


[31-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bad news is the cops don't even need an excuse


[31-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav qualified immunity


[31-Aug-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can strip search a 4 year old girl and finger her if they want and say you hav to prove it was unreasonable


[31-Aug-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can violate your 4th amendment rights too, and as long as no particular judge verdict applies unambiguously, then even when you get SCOTUS saying the 4th was violated, you stay in jail for having like, some random shit in your house that was technically illegal.


[31-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just file away that SCOTUS ruling as another particular verdict and come up with a new way to fukk over the next guy.


[31-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's illegal is now believed to be unknowable btw


[31-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
not as in like, "don't know for sure until it comes to a judge"


[31-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[31-Aug-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the law itself is poorly-maintained in such a way that you cannot enumerate it.


[31-Aug-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like Minority Report


[31-Aug-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But instead of arresting for maybe committing a crime in the future, it's arresting for committing what may be a crime, maybe


[31-Aug-19 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like we're that far off the precog shit, anyway


[31-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go to a party that has some drinking and you meet a great girl and hav a great time and you're pretty sure neither of you were drunk.


[31-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police show up, steal your car, and charge you with statutory rape.


[31-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
CCTV that can read lips is just 10 years behind CCTV that can predict actions


[31-Aug-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy serving drinks? No liquor license, so they can steal your car and charge you $900 to get it bakk.


[31-Aug-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The girl? She turns 18 the day after the party and lied to your face.


[31-Aug-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Enjoy 10 years in prison and the sex offender registry and losing your job and being a convicted felon.


[31-Aug-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Predicting crime in the future that may happen is the goal


[31-Aug-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the police found in your car a tool they argue is for lokkpikking, enjoy another 5 years.


[31-Aug-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be regulated by politicians that understand computers like the Commodore 64 and decided by judges of similar technological skill.


[31-Aug-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Enjoy that.


[31-Aug-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the warrant that got you was a mass warrant


[31-Aug-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
because those are a thing now


[31-Aug-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho the constitution says they should never be


[31-Aug-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you try to challenge things on 4th amendment grounds, the police will withdraw the plea deal that keeps you from getting the full 30 years.


[31-Aug-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and they seized your assets and your car, so enjoy getting a good lawyer.


[31-Aug-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and they found out that one time you posted on an antifa website or something so they can add another charge under some intentionally-vague anti-terrorism law which givs them wide discretion to figure out which organizations count at any time.


[31-Aug-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bonus points if the other guys at the party are all neo-nazis who don't get charged because they support a white ethnostate and so does the FBI


[31-Aug-19 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diSE8qOYhOk

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Working From Home │ Means TV
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[31-Aug-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/rSdq6eq

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Just a thought...
https://i.imgur.com/SiPDo1Eh.jpg


[31-Aug-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I highly doubt it


[31-Aug-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
people are very picky about having _their own_ kids


[31-Aug-19 02:58 AM] ononim#8141
Anti-Natalist Aktion


[31-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Why aren’t you killing nazis instead poking fun at them?`


[31-Aug-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This as a question for why anyone would make a parody image of Aryanne


[31-Aug-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a binary between "nazis are OKl" and "gotta go kill me some nazis before breakfast"


[31-Aug-19 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are upset polgyons wearing polygons that are in the shape of swastikas are now killable


[31-Aug-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you mock nazis you are a bully and are LITERALLY forcing them to radicalize and kill people


[31-Aug-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They were there not bothering anyone at all and you just had to poke at them and marginalize them, of course they're going to lash out!


[31-Aug-19 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[31-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our society has devolved into whoever is in the right being whoever technically follows the rules.


[31-Aug-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the rules are written unfairly.


[31-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just that *mens rea* being gone from crimes means citizens who think everything's fine lose the law lottery


[31-Aug-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also that when it comes to things like hate groups, we ignore that their purpose is to hate and say they're fine as long as they follow every little rule.


[31-Aug-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because we've taken to ignoring the intent.


[31-Aug-19 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-may-have-revealed-us-military-secrets-taunting-iran-2019-8?r=US&IR=T

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Trump may have revealed US military secrets by tweeting a photo to...
"I've never seen anything like this before," an expert said. "I know that [the US military has] amazing capabilities, but I don't know what this is."
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[31-Aug-19 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, at least he's useful for something :twismug:


[31-Aug-19 04:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony:


[31-Aug-19 05:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait a second


[31-Aug-19 05:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did he just admit to violating Iranian airspace?


[31-Aug-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indirectly, basically.


[31-Aug-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Airspace has a vertical limit, iirc


[31-Aug-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it's very likely this wasn't from a satellite.


[31-Aug-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is coming up on where a satellite might be physically incapable of getting the quality no matter how good the camera is.


[31-Aug-19 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/67e5354718164ef292350615f724fb39

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Juul Labs facing scrutiny from federal and state officials
WASHINGTON (AP) — With e-cigarette giant Juul Labs facing a mounting number of state and federal investigations into its marketing and sales practices, a top Trump administration official pledged...
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[31-Aug-19 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
If I can just get people to stop juuling in my face


[31-Aug-19 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
That'd be great


[31-Aug-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
"...are examining how Juul’s blockbuster vaping device became so popular with underage teens."


[31-Aug-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not complicated


[31-Aug-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav an appealing website where you can buy flavored vapes


[31-Aug-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They offer you stuff for referring others to it


[31-Aug-19 06:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, it's cryptic to them


[31-Aug-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"it doesn't appeal to me, why does it appeal to someone else"


[31-Aug-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Age verification is completely impossible.


[31-Aug-19 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"brb banning memes"


[31-Aug-19 08:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've read The Wealth of Nation in our local bookstore... I couldn't understand any single character.


[31-Aug-19 08:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk why the hell we must learn fucking economy in the school


[31-Aug-19 08:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the book tells you everything about money, except HOW TO GET MONEY


[31-Aug-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Be born into rich family.


[31-Aug-19 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
in my day we just had 12 year olds smoke after school


[31-Aug-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f516baebc88f4960bd3a8b15ee3548d3

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North Korea berates Pompeo, says hopes for talks fading
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — A senior North Korean diplomat on Saturday berated U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo over his comments describing North Korean behavior as "rogue" and said Pyongyang's...
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[31-Aug-19 12:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair Pompeo loves regime change and the blood of innocents


[31-Aug-19 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Aug-19 02:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
@AlchemistLiang Wealth of Nations isn't that hard. There's harder material out there. And frankly it's not a home econ book. It's not how you, a normal person gets money; that's micro-economy. Wealth of Nations is the first major Macro Economics book.


[31-Aug-19 03:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/4y7yxvn1drj31.jpg

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[31-Aug-19 04:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDMw7oiF-E8

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Video Game Moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDMw7oiF-E8
The Witcher 2 - Lesbomancy
Best kind of magic...
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[31-Aug-19 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11811053/Women-communists-and-foreigners-the-forgotten-heroes-of-Paris-1945.html

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Women, communists and foreigners: the forgotten heroes of Paris, 1945
For years French politicians pushed a myth of liberation from the Nazis that   was miltiary and male. The truth is somewhat different
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03015/paris-liberation-r_3015845k.jpg


[31-Aug-19 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated


[31-Aug-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://smartprivacy.io/learn/i-got-banned-from-google-ads-for-using-apple-card

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I got banned from Google Ads for using Apple Card | SmartPrivacy
Companies like Google have waged war on virtual cards and left Apple Card users without service.
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[31-Aug-19 05:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, a virtual card.


[31-Aug-19 05:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hey you see how technology is evolving? Let's not accomodate that.


[31-Aug-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7e789a51a2204ce98077ab32889ab263

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Hong Kong protesters set fires, then retreat before arrest
HONG KONG (AP) — Protesters in Hong Kong threw gasoline bombs at government headquarters and set fires in the street on Saturday, while police fired tear gas and blue-colored water from...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/1df620865da5453fa311f171d51ec657/2727.jpeg


[31-Aug-19 05:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some part of me wants to say "I'd imagine they did, it'd be awfully complicated for the police to file paperwork on arresting themselves"


[31-Aug-19 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/617381819230191713/69526870_1325284124305452_2236106810639515648_n.png

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[31-Aug-19 05:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
R E V O L U T I O N


[31-Aug-19 05:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97kw2NgXoaU

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Jonathan [British Royalty, splendour & Imperialism]
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English Civil War Parliamentarian march/song (Cromwell) "The New Army"
A Roundhead march Music and scene from Cromwell
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/97kw2NgXoaU/hqdefault.jpg


[31-Aug-19 05:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm so disappointed with the English Civil War, I can't find any good songs from it


[31-Aug-19 05:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then we get the lit French https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1pJwLfs7I

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Ingen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1pJwLfs7I
"Ça Ira" - French Revolutionary Song
guys I think they're trying to say that it'll be fine (Also happy Bastille day!)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KM1pJwLfs7I/hqdefault.jpg


[31-Aug-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/carbon-tax-stickers-law-ontario-1.5265380


[31-Aug-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically some people in Canada saw US conservatives' anti-abortion tactics with compelling speech in clinics and said "this would work great to fight environmentalism"


[31-Aug-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And turned it up to 11


[31-Aug-19 07:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/27/us/costco-shooting-family-wants-video/index.html

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The parents of a nonverbal man killed by an off-duty officer in Co...
The parents of a man who was shot and killed by an off-duty officer in a California Costco in June said they want video of the shooting released.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190827041916-06-costco-shooting-fmaily-super-tease.jpg


[31-Aug-19 07:59 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mainland-chinese-sneak-into-hong-kongs-proteststo-support-the-cause-11566986403

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Mainland Chinese Sneak Into Hong Kong’s Protests—to Support th...
A cohort of mainland Chinese have joined the demonstrations in Hong Kong, taking extraordinary risks to support a society that offers freedoms unavailable back home.
https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/B3-EV125_HKMAIN_TOP_20190827161343.jpg


[31-Aug-19 08:01 PM] ononim#8141
```The couple and their oldest son, Kenneth French, were shot while shopping for groceries in preparation for Father's Day on June 14, Paola French said.
Kenneth French, 32, was nonverbal and had been diagnosed with schizophrenia, his family said
As they stood around a sample table, Kenneth French struck off-duty police officer Salvador Sanchez as he was holding his young child, the family's attorney Dale Galipo, told reporters at a news conference Monday.
The strike has been described as a push or shove by some and a punch by others, Galipo said.
Galipo says some witnesses indicated the officer fell to the ground, but he says no one reported that he lost consciousness. In fact, he said, multiple witnesses -- including Russell and Paola French -- said Sanchez handed the child to his wife, identified himself as a police officer, and pulled his service weapon.```


[31-Aug-19 08:03 PM] ononim#8141
```"After hearing officer Sanchez identify himself as a police officer I begged and told him not to shoot," Russell French said of the deadly encounter. "I said, 'We have no guns and my son is sick.' He still shot."
Paola French also says she pleaded with the officer. "I told Officer Sanchez not to shoot twice. I even said please," she recalled between sobs. "I was pleading for our son and our lives. I was still shot in the back. What threat did I pose to him?"
Kenneth French was shot at least twice in the back and another shot was fired that struck his shoulder, Galipo said.
He died of internal bleeding, according to Galipo.
Russell French was shot in the abdomen. He said his pancreas was grazed and he was released from the hospital about a week ago after telling doctors he needed to go home to bury his son.
Paola French was shot in the back and has already undergone seven surgeries and has several more scheduled to deal with the complications from her injuries, Galipo explained.
"The physical injuries and trauma has been extremely painful to endure," Paola French said. "Not only did we lose our first born son Kenneth, my husband and I have sustained injuries that will impact our lives forever."```


[31-Aug-19 09:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/take-the-land-president-trump-wants-a-border-wall-he-wants-it-black-and-he-wants-it-by-election-day/2019/08/27/37b80018-c821-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html


[31-Aug-19 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
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[31-Aug-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's lead is narrowing


[31-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Litrojia#0612
Compared to May maybe, but those top three have been pretty steady since the first debates


[31-Aug-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for the left to fuck themselves over for decades because they won't get Cool Old Socialist as their main candidate


[31-Aug-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sure we have backalley abortions, increasing debt, no worker's rights, plus a ruined reputation on the world stage, but at least I didn't vote for Biden."- Democrat, 2030


[31-Aug-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
orbital laser cannon for president 2020


[31-Aug-19 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/08/30/pskov-region-copyright-trumps-voting-rights/

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Pskov Region: Copyright Trumps Voting Rights
Yabloko Candidate in Pskov Region Barred from Election for Not Crediting Composer in Campaign Videos Novaya Gazeta August 30, 2019 A court in the Pskov Region has disqualified Yabloko Party candida…
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[31-Aug-19 09:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/media/trump-attacks-fox/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/media/trump-attacks-fox/index.html
Trump thinks Fox News isn't doing enough to promote his presidency
President Trump took his complaints about Fox News, his biggest bastion of support on television, to a new level on Wednesday, claiming that the network "isn't working for us anymore."
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[31-Aug-19 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167805241926066176

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Has anyone noticed that the top shows on @foxnews and cable ratings are those that are Fair (or great) to your favorite President, me! Congratulations to @seanhannity for being the number one show on Cable Television!
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[31-Aug-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I really cannot understand narcissism this extreme


[31-Aug-19 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I don't even believe it is, it's something else that just looks like a comical version of it


[31-Aug-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Aug-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
-Guy Benson, Fox News contributor and politics editor of Townhall — a conservative outlet


[31-Aug-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even fox news is gettign tired of trump


[31-Aug-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, people that sometimes show up on Fox News, at least


[31-Aug-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldnt be surprised if he does try starting up that "government" run news station soemtime next year


[31-Aug-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's said he wanted it...


[31-Aug-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The country needs a real Fair and Balanced news source they can trust, after all!


[31-Aug-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
state propaganda ho!


[31-Aug-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and it exclusively reviews Trump golf courses!


[31-Aug-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, and how he totally definitely doesn't cheat


[31-Aug-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He picked up and threw the ball intot he hole fair and square!


[31-Aug-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
house rules


[31-Aug-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but only he;s allowed to do it


[31-Aug-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for anyone else it;s cheating


[31-Aug-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if the next Superman movie will have ICE deport him


[31-Aug-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ICE Man vs. super alien!


[31-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know the animated movies have mentioned it at least once


[31-Aug-19 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But in an "I'm an immigrant too" sense, not anyone going after him for it way


[31-Aug-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I imagine they won't dare with a controversy in a live action movie


[31-Aug-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.checkout.ie/supply-chain/no-deal-brexit-means-empty-shelves-storage-space-not-available-79575

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[31-Aug-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
tfw superman is illegal alien


[31-Aug-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/AY9lwzQ

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Hong Kong: Police charge onto subway train and beat citizens
https://i.imgur.com/k3T6eZUh.jpg


[31-Aug-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
> Hong Kong: Police charge onto subway train and beat citizens


[31-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/intelligence-veterans-react-trump-tweet-iran-launch-pad-briefing-photo-2019-8

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Intelligence veterans are pulling their hair out over Trump's 'out...
President Trump's decision to tweet out a photo from a classified briefing presents a goldmine for foreign intelligence.
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[31-Aug-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
>  The US rarely disseminates such imagery, and Trump's move to release the photo presents a goldmine for foreign intelligence, who can use the image to make inferences about the US's aerial surveillance capabilities.


[31-Aug-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
trump is basically handing russia and china everything in the US's toolkit


[31-Aug-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
one declassified piece of information at a time


[31-Aug-19 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it's declassified /now/


[31-Aug-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
the president has the power to declassify anything at any time


[31-Aug-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
basically, trump posting classified stuff on twitter is auto-declassified


[31-Aug-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what he'll declassify next


[31-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Area 51 alien nudes


[31-Aug-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll be like "I got you, naruto runners"


[31-Aug-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/EvblICg

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Found a random history lesson
https://i.imgur.com/5n8hJTCh.jpg


[31-Aug-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr fuck the 50's for creating unrealistic expectations of society


[31-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> https://imgur.com/gallery/EvblICg/comment/1709941851

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Found a random history lesson
https://i.imgur.com/5n8hJTCh.jpg


[31-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🤣


[31-Aug-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
I hearby move to recognize a new expectation of society.

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[31-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 50s made white people believe that society exists to provide them throwaway plastic straws and that this prosperity only exists if you only hav white rich people in charge.


[31-Aug-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're hiding the real catgirls in Area 51


[31-Aug-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Aug-19 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Around this time two years ago, we predicted Juggalos would be the new revolutionary subject. And then struggalos emerged and took the left by storm by marching against Trump in DC and various other marches. Now that their novelty is worn out, or IGD ran out of things to post about them, we are going to make another prediction for the new revolutionary subject: furries. "


[31-Aug-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sorry but that con has been a bastion of antifa for a couple years now, where have you been


[01-Sep-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
>pittsburgh


[01-Sep-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
wut


[01-Sep-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/62f9eff9916c4c45ac817e63e0ca303e

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Trump at golf club after going to Camp David to track storm
STERLING, Va. (AP) — President Donald Trump visited his private Virginia golf club for several hours Saturday as Hurricane Dorian bore down on the Southeast coastline. Trump traveled by...
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[01-Sep-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we strand him in the hurricane?


[01-Sep-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Maralago is the safest resort! I'll prove it with a golf tournament in this hurricane!


[01-Sep-19 01:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so there has just been another shooting


[01-Sep-19 01:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Authorities-searching-for-active-shooter-between-Midland-and-Odessa-20-people-reportedly-injured-558967341.html

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Police: 5 killed, multiple injured in Texas shooting; suspect shot...
Odessa Police confirmed that five people were killed and a total of 21 people were injured in a mass shooting that spanned between Midland and Odessa, Texas, on Saturday.
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[01-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRLVFn9z0Gc

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Scott Manley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRLVFn9z0Gc
What a Tweet Tells Us About US Spy Satellites
A Tweet has shown us the capabilities or the current generation of US spy satellites. By analyzing the images shared the location of the satellite was determ...
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[01-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dw, it was actually a satellite


[01-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we know which one


[01-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So those KeyHole spy sats are actually pretty crazy.


[01-Sep-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good news is it's implied that this isn't revealing top US spy sat capability, cause it's from an older generation of spy sats.


[01-Sep-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the bad news is that it implies that our current gen is *better than this?* Y'know, besides the obvious "Trump is the greatest threat to national security this country has ever seen" news


[01-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it means that Iran isn't learning about this, most likely.


[01-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would already know.


[01-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it being a sat and not an aircraft is important for diplomatic reasons.


[01-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really object to spysats.


[01-Sep-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
that was the most drunk sounding thing I've writtenin a long time please disregard


[01-Sep-19 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1167493713289011202?s=19

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Mixed 🇹🇩 (Chad) + 🇻🇬 (Virgin Islands ), and created this new country called Virgin Chad:
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[01-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Litrojia#0612
The most ambitious crossover of our time


[01-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1167938962800836608


[01-Sep-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the US is great why isn't there a US 2- wait


[01-Sep-19 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RAGEAGAINST1917/status/1167767499569385473?s=19

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mood
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[01-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand de-bimbofication


[01-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
why can't she wear sexy clothing while also studying and being smart


[01-Sep-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't understand why the high heels stayed on.


[01-Sep-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're both highly bimbo and capitalist.


[01-Sep-19 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to understand most fetishes will just make you mad


[01-Sep-19 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In both senses


[01-Sep-19 08:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Sep-19 08:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is that a shitpost account


[01-Sep-19 08:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the fucking praying part...


[01-Sep-19 08:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems like it's an actual representative


[01-Sep-19 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/lpzVc7s-_e8

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The Onion
https://youtu.be/lpzVc7s-_e8
Trump Voter Feels Betrayed By President After Reading 800 Pages Of...
Subscribe to The Onion on YouTube: http://bit.ly/xzrBUA Like The Onion on Facebook: http://www.fb.com/theonion Follow The Onion on Twitter: http://www.twitte...
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[01-Sep-19 09:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I saw dozens of tanks on the railway through the train window just now


[01-Sep-19 09:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What are they doing?


[01-Sep-19 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ISUEFkg

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Truth being told.
https://i.imgur.com/tNgADwZh.jpg


[01-Sep-19 10:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We are Muslims, just kowtow to us!


[01-Sep-19 10:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Allahu Akbar!


[01-Sep-19 12:48 PM] dissociativity#8391

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[01-Sep-19 01:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://972mag.com/cogat-american-idf-soldier-meets-palestinian-americans/143030/

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Michael Schaeffer Omer-Man
https://972mag.com/cogat-american-idf-soldier-meets-palestinian-americans/143030/
When an American in the IDF meets a Palestinian American in Hebron...
An American serving in the Israeli army in Hebron says it's a 'conversation starter' to to meet Palestinians who back home would have full rights like her.
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[01-Sep-19 01:08 PM] ononim#8141
```This particular video is about Alyse, an American immigrant to Israel who serves in the IDF’s oxymoronically named Civil Administration, a part of COGAT. Soldiers in the Civil Administration and COGAT determine where Palestinians may live, where and when they may travel (including to other parts of the occupied territories like Gaza and East Jerusalem), whether they can build or expand homes on their own land, whether they own that land at all, whether an Israeli settler can steal that land, whether two soccer teams from different parts of Palestine can play each other, and on and on.```


[01-Sep-19 01:08 PM] ononim#8141
```At one point in the video, Alyse, who hails from Chicago and is now stationed in Hebron, notes that it’s “a huge conversation starter” to meet Palestinians who are also from the United States.

“It’s always interesting to meet people who are so different than me yet have such a similar background,” she says.```


[01-Sep-19 01:08 PM] ononim#8141
```The video speaks for itself. But here are two things to ponder:

1. What exactly is a “conversation starter” when someone with no rights is begging a soldier in a foreign occupying army for permission to travel or work? What does that “conversation” look like? How “interesting” is it that the person standing on the other side of the glass with almost no rights could have, just a few weeks earlier, been riding next to her on the L with equal civil rights and protections?

2. Does Alyse ever think about what the difference actually is between her and those people with such a “similar background?” Does she think about how — in the situation she chose to enter — privilege, power, and basic rights like free movement and due process are determined almost exclusively by one’s ethnicity and religion of one’s parents?

Is it “interesting” for her to think about why one population in the city where she is stationed needs the permission of a foreign army just to travel or work, while the other population needs no permission from anyone at all?

Does she ever think about what that system would be called if it were imposed back in Chicago? Or which side of the glass she might be on if it were?```


[01-Sep-19 03:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1167486090913210369

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Surprise!✨I am thrilled to announce the launch of our #GreenNewDeal art series with custom Bronx & Queens GND posters.

The Bronx edition poster will be given for free as a limited release to the public at our Pelham Bay Nature Day & Backpack Giveaway in the Bronx tomorr...
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[01-Sep-19 03:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl that's good art


[01-Sep-19 03:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They probably tried really hard not to have anything in red


[01-Sep-19 03:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, you don't have to try all that hard to avoid red when you're evoking an art deco style


[01-Sep-19 03:59 PM] ononim#8141
>Green New Deal


[01-Sep-19 03:59 PM] ononim#8141
>not Art Nouveau


[01-Sep-19 03:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry yeah art nouveau, that's what I meant


[01-Sep-19 04:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm barely awake still


[01-Sep-19 04:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d5e9882e4b0dfcbd4893ee5

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Proud Boys Leader Admits Their Rallies Are For Fighting And Wastin...
The group brawls with antifa under the guise of free speech. But video exposes its true intentions: violence and wasting public resources.
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[01-Sep-19 04:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For real, anyone who didn't realize Proud Boys are just the WBC with flak jackets and masks are not paying attention


[01-Sep-19 04:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But when biker gangs show up to thwart the WBC, the media loves 'em, but antifa shows up to look intimidating and the media goes to town when some PB goon orders a knuckle sandwich


[01-Sep-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does westboro even do public things anymore?


[01-Sep-19 04:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"we champion free speech, so we'll punch you for expressing yours"


[01-Sep-19 04:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok


[01-Sep-19 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/08/19/anti-gay-preacher-condemns-westboro-baptist-church-for-being-too-homophobic/

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Anti-gay preacher condemns Westboro Baptist Church for being too h...
An Arizona minister banned from most of Europe for his extreme anti-gay views has criticised the Westboro Baptist Church for preaching too much hate.
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[01-Sep-19 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
decided to check for recent news on 'em and :twismug:


[01-Sep-19 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WBC also attacks the troops


[01-Sep-19 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So even the most conservatives in the US hate them


[01-Sep-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they pretended to be muslim instead of christian they'd all be in prison


[01-Sep-19 04:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah but if you bring up how much the president hates the troops...


[01-Sep-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the thing, the president hates the troops but he makes rallying calls of smoke screen support


[01-Sep-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to distract from it


[01-Sep-19 04:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, no. The president loves the *military.* Tanks and ships and guns and nukes. But he hates the troops.


[01-Sep-19 04:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless that ship has McCain's name on it. Then he hates that too.


[01-Sep-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well yes, but i mean he literally yells about supporting the*troops* at his rallies


[01-Sep-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Now if he could automate the whole miitary so they;re his robotic war toys? he would do that in a heart beat


[01-Sep-19 04:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no he wouldn't. That was Obama's idea. We can't use drones.


[01-Sep-19 04:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not even to secure the southern border


[01-Sep-19 04:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That offer was put on the table during the government shutdown and he refused


[01-Sep-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right...


[01-Sep-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is getting confusing now...


[01-Sep-19 04:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's pretty consistent on a couple things


[01-Sep-19 04:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Number 1: Immigrants have no human rights. Number 2: He is above the law. Number 3: He's the best


[01-Sep-19 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, /certain/ immigrants have no rights


[01-Sep-19 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's fine with importing immigrants he likes and fast-tracking their visas


[01-Sep-19 04:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless you went through guatemala. In which case it's illegal to even apply for asylum


[01-Sep-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the immigrants he likes are from "functioning" wealthy white countries


[01-Sep-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The kinds with people who will likely stay at his resorts


[01-Sep-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7e789a51a2204ce98077ab32889ab263 meanwhile hong kong police have become literal terrorists

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Hong Kong police storm subway with batons as protests rage
HONG KONG (AP) — Protesters in Hong Kong threw gasoline bombs at government headquarters and set fires in the streets on Saturday, while police stormed a subway car and hit passengers with batons...
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[01-Sep-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shooting-in-texas-odessa-midland-at-least-6-dead-3-police-injured-mass-shooting-latest-news-2019-09-01 the body count rose to 7

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[01-Sep-19 04:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
GIVE ME HIS NAME SO I CAN HUNT HIS PURPOSE


[01-Sep-19 04:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
I HAVE A THESIS TO CONFIRM


[01-Sep-19 04:52 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Sep-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7f73210378e74a708adac198dcb309ea

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[01-Sep-19 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you have a source for the cameras thing?


[01-Sep-19 05:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a twitter user claiming to be an inside source leaking info.


[01-Sep-19 05:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt we'll get anything for a while that confirms or denies what it's talking about.


[01-Sep-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8fa7060adaef4eae9c0a4dcb7f6782d6

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Gun owners find new outlets in the midst of a weakened NRA
Bob Mokos is a passionate gun owner who on the surface would seem like a card-carrying National Rifle Association member. The retired airline pilot has been shooting guns since he was a...
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[01-Sep-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
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[01-Sep-19 07:48 PM] Mikey#7286
"there'll be no time for golf"


[01-Sep-19 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There's no time for golf! I'm too busy playing golf to be golfing!"


[01-Sep-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump on never hearing about cat 5 hurricanes from 2017 to 2019

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[01-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Senile.


[01-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
:trump:


[01-Sep-19 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[01-Sep-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Preemptive self-defense is a real US legal idea btw.


[01-Sep-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the justification on drone strikes.


[01-Sep-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/22365659ba354beb9a87d38c89b8903b

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The Latest: Police identify gunman in West Texas rampage
MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — The Latest on a shooting in West Texas (all times local): 2:30 p.m. Odessa police say the man who killed seven people in West Texas has been identified as Seth...
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[01-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] Abbott says the girl’s mother texted: “Toddlers are funny because they can get shot but still want to run around and play.”


[01-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
👶 🔫


[01-Sep-19 10:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Now here's hoping her surgery goes well 🙏


[01-Sep-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what?


[01-Sep-19 10:44 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Same article; scroll down a bit


[01-Sep-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh ok it updated


[01-Sep-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[01-Sep-19 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I heard some rumor that the reason he stands like this is because he's got heel lifts


[01-Sep-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/tsearcaigh/status/1165669186632241152

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I don't get people like Bezos. If I had billions of dollars, I would impulsively start fixing shit. Homeless vets? I don't think so. Hungry children? Not on my watch. He could be Batman. What a waste.
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[01-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
> Just a thought here: if old people hoard junk, or lonely people horsd animals, we call them mentally ill.
> Hoarding money is no different, especially if the person has more than they can spend, and doesn't. The money gets caged and held from the greater economy.


[01-Sep-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but bezos's net worth is on paper


[01-Sep-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
he doesn't have that money, it's in amazon stock


[01-Sep-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, he has a stupid amount of income from working there, and that is of course something he should donate instead


[01-Sep-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
but people don't seem to get that the money isn't being hoarded, it's being invested


[01-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We do have that, it's called being a miser


[01-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
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Turkey, Erdogan, Banned
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[01-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
apparently this image got imgur banned in turkey


[02-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being that much of a delicate snowflake


[02-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same shit happened in Russia


[02-Sep-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Sep-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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Shawn Mendes, Camila Cabello - Señorita (Donald Trump Cover)
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[02-Sep-19 01:50 AM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking imgur works here


[02-Sep-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Sep-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/594c4f2a1e9f4efbab11a217328b0502

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Trump says he'll work with Congress to stop mass shootings
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump expressed a commitment Sunday, hours after the latest deadly mass shooting, to work with a divided Congress to "stop the menace of mass attacks." He said...
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[02-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has the notjordanpeterson guy given us notdonaldtrump yet


[02-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And if so why the god damned fuck not


[02-Sep-19 02:10 AM] ononim#8141
Becayse no matter how ridiculous the thing you will make it to say, it will look just like something he would actually say


[02-Sep-19 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. He's not wearing his maga hat. He's clearly a traitor to his own cause. Should we send *him* back? :ponythinking:


[02-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> “Public safety is our No. 1 priority, always wanting to protect our Second Amendment. So important,”
What does that even mean


[02-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Public safety, protecting our second amendment, is our #1 priority"


[02-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't even parse this


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maru


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the public is safer


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
if every idiot has a gun


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
because then anyone who commits a crime will be immediately shot to death


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the society Republicans want.


[02-Sep-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk kid steals $5 merch, shot dead.


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cut a guy off while driving, shot dead.


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Illegal immigrants? Shot dead.


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The public is very safe if everyone outside the elite class is dead.


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
He's just demented tbh


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] ononim#8141
It's not that deep


[02-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Until the elite class themselves start comitting crimes :twismug:


[02-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fascism.


[02-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh right, they get away with it


[02-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep finding a new group to blame society's problems on and shoot.


[02-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*cough*epstein*cough*


[02-Sep-19 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1168253908617183232?s=19

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"We don’t do gay weddings or mixed race, because of our Christian race—I mean, our Christian belief," a woman says.
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[02-Sep-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I thought the guy who I talked to who wanted cutting in line to be justifiable homicide was an outlier


[02-Sep-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
No that's Trump's base


[02-Sep-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and what they actually want.


[02-Sep-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't even want it to be something you get arrested for


[02-Sep-19 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shoot them in the back of the head, push them aside, have people come and take it away


[02-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also wanted to do this to anyone he thought was lying to him.


[02-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And wanted dueling back.


[02-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was not very fit and had other controversial viewpoints, so he wouldn't last one day in the world he wanted.


[02-Sep-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is Trump's base.


[02-Sep-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're a dime a dozen.


[02-Sep-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he wrote MLP fanfiction for a while.


[02-Sep-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is he one of those people who thinks cutie marks = age of consent?


[02-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he disliked any sort of sexualization.


[02-Sep-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was the kind of guy who would say the characters were out of character because they didn't fit his headcanon.


[02-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[02-Sep-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course he stopped liking the show after S3.


[02-Sep-19 02:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> cutie marks = age of consent
Wow I can finally link to all of this NotFoalcon 👌 :nut: 👍


[02-Sep-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the flank ain't blank...


[02-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some people took cutie marks being a puberty metaphor REALLY literally and mixed it with Equestria having lax laws


[02-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The molt is more of a metaphor than cutie marks.


[02-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well once upon a time Spike and Basil were the only dragons.


[02-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard to believe the entire depiction of that series was directed around based on Dragon Quest


[02-Sep-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Sep-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-Sep-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
STEMlords who did work for the army will be the first to the American Pol Pot


[02-Sep-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[02-Sep-19 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Terrifying fact: in his fascination with Primitive Communism Pol Pot intended to reduce Cambodia's population to one-million.


[02-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how he planned to actually support communism without industry


[02-Sep-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
He didn't plan to have industry. He wanted to go all the way to primitive communism. Agricultural socialism.


[02-Sep-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
People with glasses were killed because literacy was banned, and wearing glasses was regarded as a sign you were literate.


[02-Sep-19 06:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/01/european-leaders-go-to-warsaw-for-ww2-commemorations

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Trump heads for the golf course as leaders gather to mark start of WW2
Dominic Raab leads British delegation to the Polish capital, while Vladimir Putin is not invited
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[02-Sep-19 06:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, *that's* why Putin wasn't invited


[02-Sep-19 06:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ, WW3 really is looming huh


[02-Sep-19 06:52 AM] Damaged#9999
This'll probably be my only ever post in here, but I felt the need to say thank you to whomever wrote the short description for the `politics` tag:

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[02-Sep-19 06:53 AM] Damaged#9999
You really should add that to the description for this channel.


[02-Sep-19 06:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(well you lied about the only post :twismug: )


[02-Sep-19 06:54 AM] Damaged#9999
... bugger


[02-Sep-19 06:55 AM] Damaged#9999
Welp, now I need to make all my opinions known in a never-ending stream of verbal diarrhea


[02-Sep-19 06:57 AM] Damaged#9999
Or not. Have a wonderful day!


[02-Sep-19 07:23 AM] byte[]#2610
tell me where the turnbull touched you  @Damaged


[02-Sep-19 07:27 AM] Damaged#9999
He—He touched me right on the constitution!


[02-Sep-19 07:29 AM] Damaged#9999
> "Well the laws of Australia prevail in Australia, I can assure you of that. The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia."
—Malcolm Turnbull *idiot*

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[02-Sep-19 07:39 AM] Damaged#9999
He said that with regard to the press asking him to clarify his stance on wanting encryption that was backdoored on *everything*. He literally stated that the laws of mathematics, though fine, didn't hold sway in Australia.


[02-Sep-19 08:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ


[02-Sep-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously he should repeal the laws of gravity so everyone can float.


[02-Sep-19 08:26 AM] Damaged#9999
This is Australia, we did that 40 years ago


[02-Sep-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, that's the thing, communism can't work without a currently near-impossible level of industry to support it, it would eventually run out of resources and just decompose into squabbling warlords


[02-Sep-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr we need robots to make communism work


[02-Sep-19 12:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Definition of word "politics":
Poly - many.
Ticks - blood sucking parasites.


[02-Sep-19 12:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:twismug:


[02-Sep-19 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Police unsure why man went on West Texas shooting rampage
ODESSA, Texas (AP) — Police say they are not sure why a man with a misdemeanor on his record and no warrant for his arrest erupted in a spate of violence after a routine traffic stop in West...
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[02-Sep-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/94594b39b6ea4fa58af473eca36cc939

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Not so easy to prevent the spread of mass shooters' names
When law enforcement authorities gathered to discuss details of a mass shooting in West Texas that left seven people dead, there was one bit of information they refused to provide on live...
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[02-Sep-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
-says man who put name of mass shooter in facebook post


[02-Sep-19 02:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Sep-19 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know Mark Twain...


[02-Sep-19 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who are the other ones?


[02-Sep-19 02:27 PM] Litrojia#0612
Even I don't know all of these


[02-Sep-19 02:30 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Then why the hell are these hanged in my university everywhere


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[02-Sep-19 02:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Marxism school has no picture of Marx, but Steven Hawking, Washington, Einstein and Mr Bean


[02-Sep-19 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They have pictures of Mr.Bean?


[02-Sep-19 02:34 PM] Litrojia#0612
Hmm


[02-Sep-19 02:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Sep-19 02:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In the "British Giants" propaganda board


[02-Sep-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[02-Sep-19 02:36 PM] Litrojia#0612
Something must be wrong with me that I know more of the Brits than the Americans


[02-Sep-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it's not just you, american schools don;t really go into the "american giants"


[02-Sep-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the british giants meanwhile seem to be comprised of the author of lord of the rings, 2 world war 2 figures, a queen and a movie character


[02-Sep-19 02:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
Honestly the people listed on that one seem more important. No American leaders were listed, at least no big ones


[02-Sep-19 02:38 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Like, the UK Giants are just more famous lol


[02-Sep-19 02:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
For the US to be comparable you'd have to list presidents


[02-Sep-19 02:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(like 5 of them are writers)


[02-Sep-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the americasn one seems to be compiled of notable historical figures that barely anyone actually remembers


[02-Sep-19 02:40 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I see 5 writers and the polio vaccine guy


[02-Sep-19 02:40 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know Mark Twain


[02-Sep-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know mark twain and hemmingway


[02-Sep-19 02:41 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He is the most famous one of the group


[02-Sep-19 02:41 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I am somewhat cognizant of what most of them did, except Faulkner


[02-Sep-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9a90e16d903947709998dd7a2dde8733

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[02-Sep-19 02:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
I don't know Faulkner and London


[02-Sep-19 02:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
with the Brits, the only one I was a bit iffy on is Beckham but I knew he played soccer


[02-Sep-19 02:43 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I didn't know London pioneered science fiction
I knew him for "Call of the Wild"


[02-Sep-19 02:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But like yeah, it isn't a fair comparison


[02-Sep-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kinda looks like they just took random people from history and threw them up there


[02-Sep-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Mr.Bean isn;t even a real person...


[02-Sep-19 02:47 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think they were looking for Rowan Atkinson lol


[02-Sep-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that does make mroe sense


[02-Sep-19 02:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
In which case I woudn't have known him if they didn't call him Mr. Bean


[02-Sep-19 02:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's also weird


[02-Sep-19 02:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why'd they add Atkinson among everyone else


[02-Sep-19 02:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's as if you were listing the "7 greatest US presidents" and the list was

Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelts 1 and 2, Jackson, and then

MILLARD FILLMORE


[02-Sep-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt know millard fillmore was a president


[02-Sep-19 02:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He's kinda forgettable


[02-Sep-19 02:51 PM] Litrojia#0612
He has some local connection, which is most of the reason I know him


[02-Sep-19 02:55 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Checks out with my 5 minute skim of Wikipedia


[02-Sep-19 02:56 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I tend to confuse many of the presidents between Van Buren and Lincoln


[02-Sep-19 02:57 PM] Litrojia#0612
Most of the 1800s presidents are a blur for me. I could pick out their names and whether they came before or after Lincoln, but don't know much else


[02-Sep-19 02:58 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
My mental image of Fillmore ended up looking more like Pierce


[02-Sep-19 02:58 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I only remember Buchanan because he looked a lot like a former vice principal I had


[02-Sep-19 03:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Sep-19 03:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LIBTARD OWNED WITH FACTS AND LOGIC

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[02-Sep-19 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1165869638779060224?s=21

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[02-Sep-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah populism: the stance of All for Trump and none for you!


[02-Sep-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
populism 👎 
sodaulism 👍


[02-Sep-19 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh btw, and this might be surprising if you're not savvy on intra-left divisions


[02-Sep-19 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the Communist Party of the Philippines just denounced China's authoritarian reaction to the Hong Kong protests


[02-Sep-19 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
in fact, several militant communist parties around Asia have denounced the Chinese Communist Party


[02-Sep-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
Remind me, aren't Com party of Philippines maoist too?


[02-Sep-19 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm not sure tbh, but their stratagem and ideology is quite reminiscent


[02-Sep-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/us/immigrant-medical-treatment-deferred-action.html

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Sick Migrants Undergoing Lifesaving Care Can Now Be Deported
Without notice, the Trump administration eliminated a program that had allowed immigrants to avoid deportation while undergoing lifesaving medical treatment.
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[02-Sep-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Sep-19 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Sep-19 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Worse than if statements


[02-Sep-19 10:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/fairycrust/status/1167891488379826182?s=21

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[02-Sep-19 10:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how they operate them from colombia


[02-Sep-19 10:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ping would be terrible from here


[02-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
300-400


[02-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't need to drive them, just give them waypoints


[02-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
okay then


[02-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
btw 2 bucks/hour is alot


[03-Sep-19 02:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmdkN6MOwU

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[03-Sep-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://loveandragemedia.org/2019/09/02/zapatista-communique-we-broke-the-siege/

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Zapatista Communique: We Broke the Siege
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[03-Sep-19 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
VIVA


[03-Sep-19 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/rr9msi8w88k31.jpg
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/driving-in-the-eu-after-brexit

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Driving in the EU after Brexit
Check what you need to do to drive while visiting the EU if there's a no deal Brexit.
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[03-Sep-19 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Expecting windows to get put through.


[03-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Damaged#9999
https://greece.greekreporter.com/2019/09/02/the-reason-iranians-do-not-pronounce-the-greek-pms-given-name/

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The Reason Iranians Do Not Pronounce the Greek PM's Given Name | G...
A very strange yet funny coincidence became public on social media recently
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[03-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Damaged#9999
tl;dr ||his name in Persian is, phonetically, "dick or cunt"|| (spoiled for a little cussing)


[03-Sep-19 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
cock


[03-Sep-19 03:38 AM] ononim#8141
and balls


[03-Sep-19 03:38 AM] ononim#8141
torture

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[03-Sep-19 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Sep-19 04:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
you always need one black guy to make sure your not racist and that its hip and cool with the kidz


[03-Sep-19 04:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
if you cant get a black guy then mexican is good chinese is better lol


[03-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guys are easier to wrangle tho.


[03-Sep-19 04:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
just promise a mexican trump wont hurt him then ha gotem


[03-Sep-19 05:04 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
did anyone live near the hurricane area ?


[03-Sep-19 05:07 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/16/world/asia/china-women-communist-party.html

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As China Prepares for New Top Leaders, Women Are Still Shut Out
A group of lawyers and feminists is urging the Communist Party to promote more women to leadership positions at its congress this fall, but expectations are low.
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[03-Sep-19 05:07 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Where are the femnists on this?!


[03-Sep-19 05:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are there


[03-Sep-19 05:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they are always there


[03-Sep-19 05:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
in the shadows


[03-Sep-19 05:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
can you seen them on there phones making tweets


[03-Sep-19 05:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
dont go near em


[03-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwqGkkaW0AEzq2o.jpg
I always get a chuckle from this guy's twitter taking out of context trump quotes and giving them to red skull.

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[03-Sep-19 05:12 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i love when when trump throws a huge ass baby fit we get fucked over


[03-Sep-19 05:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yet people still support him ???


[03-Sep-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Sep-19 05:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm sure everyone has their reasons justified or not


[03-Sep-19 05:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
toddler shootings like that happen few times really


[03-Sep-19 05:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[03-Sep-19 05:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
there was a bunch last year i think


[03-Sep-19 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Doesn't look like they have a ton of detail on that story yet but how much do you want to bet it was a handgun stored in a dresser


[03-Sep-19 05:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[03-Sep-19 05:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
or "somewhere safe"


[03-Sep-19 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even those gun safes with four-digit pins are unacceptable imo. How much monkey-see do you think it takes for a child to see you punch in a combination or figure it out 'cause daddy uses the same pin there as he does when he lets you "help" at the ATM?


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
my dad has his gun case wayyy back then


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I always stayed away from it


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
If I went near it I got a talking to


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
not everyparent is like that


[03-Sep-19 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It doesn't help that there's a *lot* of garbage being sold as "gun safes"


[03-Sep-19 05:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[03-Sep-19 05:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
his was pretty good


[03-Sep-19 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, those things that are just stamped sheet metal boxes with wafer locks


[03-Sep-19 05:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he got a dui and we had to remove it


[03-Sep-19 05:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[03-Sep-19 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i remember the safe being a+


[03-Sep-19 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
hell I was scared to even go near it


[03-Sep-19 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I was terrifed of guns back then


[03-Sep-19 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then there's stuff that's specifically *designed* to be unsafe


[03-Sep-19 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like gunbed®


[03-Sep-19 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[03-Sep-19 05:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wtf


[03-Sep-19 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, if you watch the infomercial for this, it's just a piece of the headboard that if you punch it in, the gun drops into your waiting hands


[03-Sep-19 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, you get hot and steamy and suddenly your strap hits your wife in the head


[03-Sep-19 05:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft


[03-Sep-19 05:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wow XD


[03-Sep-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the best part about the commercial is that he flags the cameraman with the gun *every time*


[03-Sep-19 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
pft wow


[03-Sep-19 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so he could have goten shot


[03-Sep-19 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
cuz


[03-Sep-19 05:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
commercial people dont know shit about gun safety


[03-Sep-19 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that man is the guy who *invented* this product


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait the man on the bed ?


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
there still could have been something wrong happen


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
one lil fuck up


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and bam


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ded


[03-Sep-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just so, so, so stupid


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course, most "quick access" safes are. If it's quick access, it's not safe.

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[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
how much sales did that actually get ?


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah those


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
nah quick acess sucks ass


[03-Sep-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But look at that. You know what I see when I look at this? A cheap tiny circular lock


[03-Sep-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause for some reason people still think those are unpickable


[03-Sep-19 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
easy to hack


[03-Sep-19 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its better to take time with safes


[03-Sep-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and avoid electronics


[03-Sep-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause oh boy


[03-Sep-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[03-Sep-19 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wifi can be hacked


[03-Sep-19 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiyFQAjEq7M figured I might as well post the actual video

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Headboard Gun Cabinet
Good Lord
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[03-Sep-19 05:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
watching the video I can see these people are really irresponsible with guns XD


[03-Sep-19 05:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they try to seem cocky/sexy with them too lmao


[03-Sep-19 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"I use the loudest racking shotgun I could find 😏 "


[03-Sep-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this guy is going to an hero


[03-Sep-19 05:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah XD


[03-Sep-19 05:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
god


[03-Sep-19 05:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I hope no one bought that shit


[03-Sep-19 08:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVu9b6mcWos

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[03-Sep-19 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
bro you just posted cringe


[03-Sep-19 10:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
PJW is not a source for anything credible


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[03-Sep-19 12:50 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its funny that the protest is still going on


[03-Sep-19 01:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Which one?


[03-Sep-19 01:14 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hong kong one


[03-Sep-19 01:15 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its all supposed to be over on october 1st


[03-Sep-19 01:15 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
police say


[03-Sep-19 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so that's when the massacre is


[03-Sep-19 01:47 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[03-Sep-19 03:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mike-pence-trump-golf-resort-doonbeg-ireland-visit-leo-varadkar-a9089541.html

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[03-Sep-19 07:15 PM] Treascair#7785
and unlike the US media, the EU media gives zero fucks about them whining about it.


[03-Sep-19 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49570682

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Tory MP defects ahead of crucial Brexit vote
Phillip Lee's move to the Lib Dems leaves the PM with no working majority as he faces a showdown over no deal.
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[03-Sep-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
> Mr Lee said the Conservative Party "had become a narrow faction in which one's Conservatism is measured by how recklessly one wants to leave the European Union".


[03-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic play to neither hav principles nor to govern.


[03-Sep-19 07:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
does anyone have anything good about the hong kong protest ?


[03-Sep-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/u1cgHEWG-BA

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https://youtu.be/u1cgHEWG-BA
DNA Evidence Frees Black Man Convicted Of Bear Attack
Georgia police were so confident Marshall was the man who killed young Janet Kelly in a state bear preserve, they didn't investigate other suspects.
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[03-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The fucking honey jar


[03-Sep-19 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Sep-19 08:38 PM] ononim#8141
?


[03-Sep-19 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember the days the GBP was like 1.6 euro


[03-Sep-19 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/30/japan-south-korea-trade-war-a-sign-of-collapsing-world-order-expert.html

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Japan-South Korea dispute is a sign that the world order is 'colla...
The trade conflict between Japan and South Korea is a sign that the global order is "collapsing," according to Deborah Elms, executive director at the Asian Trade Centre.
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[03-Sep-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
>this is a big drop of curency value


[03-Sep-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
ha


[03-Sep-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
ha ha


[03-Sep-19 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
**HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA**


[03-Sep-19 08:43 PM] ononim#8141
*wheeze*


[03-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the UK tho


[03-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not Turkey


[03-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The GBP has always been like a gold standard of "this is the highest valued currency"


[03-Sep-19 09:10 PM] ononim#8141
>Turkey


[03-Sep-19 09:10 PM] ononim#8141
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I AM FROM DIFFERENT BACKWARDS REACTONARY SHITHOLE


[03-Sep-19 10:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[03-Sep-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fernando Nick Land


[03-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-gay-gene-new-study-no-single-gene-drives-sexual-behavior-complex-mix-of-genetic-and-other-influences-2019-08-29/
interesting article

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Is there a "gay gene"? Major new study says no
There's no such thing as a single gene that drives a person's sexual behavior, according to the largest study ever done on the subject
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[03-Sep-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mcconnell-complain-moscow-mitch-over-the-top

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[04-Sep-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-insists-meteorologists-wrong-hurricane-105100591.html

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Trump insists meteorologists are wrong and he is right to say Hurr...
Donald Trump has insisted he is right - and meteorologists are wrong - over his repeated claim Hurricane Dorian could strike parts of Alabama.Forecasters, including the government’s own National Weather Service, were forced to correct the US president after he warned in a t...
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[04-Sep-19 12:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump please shut up and let the science people talk


[04-Sep-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump, alabama is too far inlandfor a hurricane...


[04-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
trump doesn't want to look bad for his weather prediction


[04-Sep-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if mcconnell is botherd by it, then keep doing it


[04-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But what if it's reverse psychology and he's furiously jacking off to it?


[04-Sep-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then plant a camera in his hosue and use it as black mail


[04-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's what all of us call "illegal", and some of us call "amoral"


[04-Sep-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true...


[04-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
so you mean like


[04-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
what mcconnell does?


[04-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
both illegal and amoral


[04-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, I mean...


[04-Sep-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also probably has several people on blackmail already


[04-Sep-19 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay Moscow Mitch


[04-Sep-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hope the other candidate calls him nothing but that


[04-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
my mom doesn't trust scientists so much that her response to that thing about trump saying that it'll hit alabama when the scientists say it won't is "well, we'll find out won't we? ;)"


[04-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
(it was in person, but the winky face was the tone of her voice)


[04-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
basically, trump can claim anything and she'll go with it


[04-Sep-19 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BREAKING: Donald Trump says eating feces is good, prompting E. Coli outbreak


[04-Sep-19 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah i think your mum would be a victim of that lol


[04-Sep-19 01:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
E. coli outbreak among GOP voters*


[04-Sep-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, non-GOP voters have to interact with GOP voters


[04-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
though you can't get e.coli infections from your own feces


[04-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
since it's your own e.coli


[04-Sep-19 01:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Who knows
Your e. coli in a different place in your body can cause trouble


[04-Sep-19 01:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe


[04-Sep-19 01:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm going to wiki this before I say anything else


[04-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
e.coli infections are your body's native e.coli going to war with a foreign e.coli strain


[04-Sep-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
basically, both can do the same job in your body, but the established one has already programmed your immune system to attack foreign e.coli


[04-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
and salmonella is basically just reptilian e.coli


[04-Sep-19 01:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's true


[04-Sep-19 01:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although ectopic E. coli can cause trouble too


[04-Sep-19 01:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If E. coli bacteria escape the intestinal tract through a perforation (for example from an ulcer, a ruptured appendix, or due to a surgical error) and enter the abdomen, they usually cause peritonitis


[04-Sep-19 01:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although I reckon eating your own feces would be disgusting, although I don't think it'll cause E. coli infection, based on that


[04-Sep-19 01:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Actually I'm not sure anymore


[04-Sep-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in b4 trump jsut becomes bear grylles

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[04-Sep-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://reut.rs/2ZyLgj8

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Exclusive: OxyContin maker prepares 'free-fall' bankruptcy as...
OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma LP is preparing to seek bankruptcy protection befo...
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[04-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Treascair#7785
they wanna try filing to avoid paying out? liquidate the controlling owner's assets.


[04-Sep-19 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it worked for Trump so


[04-Sep-19 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/dnannann/status/1168918531167215616?s=19

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🖤💜 Tarachara, Snug-ubus 💜🖤 (@dnannann)
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hong kong protestor: our rent is intolerably high for spaces not fit for farm animals. our government is kowtowing to totalitarian interests and every day I fear I will awaken in a police state

tankie from ohio:
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[04-Sep-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
ononim_irl


[04-Sep-19 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know he had to do it to em


[04-Sep-19 04:02 AM] ononim#8141
>:V


[04-Sep-19 06:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Sep-19 06:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Two Hong Kong protesters tried to lighting up the grass near the road, and failed...


[04-Sep-19 06:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
U gotta use tyres and gasoline


[04-Sep-19 07:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's clear that they don't have IQ test when joining in their group.


[04-Sep-19 07:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sometimes they can't even write the traditional Chinese characters correctly


[04-Sep-19 07:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The official language of Hong Kong is British English


[04-Sep-19 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't the PRC use Simplified?


[04-Sep-19 07:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[04-Sep-19 07:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But only in the Mainland


[04-Sep-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cc3cad52a1744a9da42738508abff14c

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The Latest: Scottish court says Johnson can suspend Parl't
LONDON (AP) — The Latest on Britain's bid to leave the European Union (all times local): 10:30 a.m. A Scottish court says British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's planned suspension of...
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[04-Sep-19 12:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Sep-19 12:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese Central Television released their official VTuber


[04-Sep-19 12:41 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Your new waifu who serve you with all the global news and socialism propagandas!

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[04-Sep-19 12:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49574217
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PM in new Brexit battle after Commons vote defeat
Boris Johnson will call for an election if he is forced to request a Brexit extension but Labour says it won't back it.
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Boris Johnson defeated as MPs take control
More than 20 of the PM's own party vote against him - he responds by saying he will push for an October election.
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[04-Sep-19 01:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
trumpy boi is trying to make the military pay for the wall


[04-Sep-19 01:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I thought mexico was gonna pay for it ???


[04-Sep-19 01:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[04-Sep-19 03:21 PM] Marukomuru#8409
He's only now just realized that Mexico doesn't have the money for it


[04-Sep-19 03:22 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Should have made taxpayers pay for it instead :twismug:


[04-Sep-19 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is, through the military


[04-Sep-19 05:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49481180

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Kashmiris allege torture in army crackdown
The BBC has heard allegations of violent beatings and even torture in Indian-administered Kashmir.
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[04-Sep-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Sep-19 06:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
dust_3 looks great


[04-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I remember an instance where a teenager was taken to the police station over releasing a Counter-Strike Source map of his high school

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[04-Sep-19 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
do we live in a society where this happens


[04-Sep-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/40exUxi.jpg

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You know what happens when you assume
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[04-Sep-19 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://news.yahoo.com/bolsonaro-accuses-u-n-bachelet-145839088.html

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Bolsonaro accuses U.N.'s Bachelet of meddling in Brazil's sovereignty
GENEVA/RIO DE JANEIRO, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro on Wednesday accused Chile's former leader Michelle Bachelet, now the United Nations human rights chief, of meddling in his country's affairs after she criticized a rise police violence and an erosion o...
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[04-Sep-19 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Bolsonaro also personally attacked Bachelet, whose father, an air force general, remained loyal to socialist president Salvador Allende after the 1973 coup, and died in jail.

> "(Bachelet) forgets that the only reason (her) country isn't like Cuba is thanks to those who had the courage to put a stop to the left in 1973," Bolsonaro wrote. "Among those communists was her ... father."


[04-Sep-19 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a literal bag of trash would make a better president than Bolsonaro


[04-Sep-19 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RobAnderson2018/status/1168789105741901825

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Rob Anderson for Louisiana (@RobAnderson2018)
https://twitter.com/RobAnderson2018/status/1168789105741901825
Causes of mass shootings:

- video games
- mental illness
- Darwin
- not enough Jesus

Not causes:

- AR-15s available anywhere

The GOP assumes you’re all fucking idiots.
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[04-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
> We should message to the GOP that “illegal immigrants have the God-given right to own AR-15s with high capacity magazines” and watch their heads explode.


[04-Sep-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
this but unironically


[04-Sep-19 09:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[04-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-Sep-19 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/09/04/al-jazeeras-love-affair-with-militant-russian-orthodox-fascist-homophobe-vitaly-milonov/

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Al Jazeera’s Love Affair with Militant Russian Orthodox Fascist ...
Russian Orthodox fascist and homophobic terrorist Vitaly Milonov is Al Jazeera’s go-to commentator on Russian current affairs. Photo by Sergei Fadeichev. Courtesy of TASS and the Moscow Times…
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[04-Sep-19 11:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://twitter.com/wxdam/status/1169308075662151680

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The President of the United States altered a National Hurricane Center map with a sharpie to falsely extend the official forecast toward Alabama so he didn't have to admit he was wrong in a tweet. https://t.co/i0CJcYV4yq
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[05-Sep-19 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember when the white house had to make a statement defending the Covfefe tweet as intentional


[05-Sep-19 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
covfefe from nambia


[05-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/SarahMaidenUK/status/1169361325321068544

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Sarah Maiden 🎮🇬🇧🇩🇰 (@SarahMaidenUK)
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Going to hell in 3, 2, 1..
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[05-Sep-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/vm1U5E44W90

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Putin Learns Putin Behind Plot To Assassinate Putin
A man thanks God he's not sexually attracted to children, the nation's women aren't as crazy about Bryan Gosling, and the guy on the third floor with two com...
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[05-Sep-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss their videos..


[05-Sep-19 02:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Sep-19 02:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong government cancelled the bill that protesters mainly aim to


[05-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The Beijing News (Reporter Wang Hongchun) Hong Kong Chief Executive Lin Zhengyue announced today (September 4) that he officially sown the revised draft of the Fugitive Offenders Ordinance.
The Xinhua News Agency reported that the Hong Kong SAR Government submitted to the Legislative Council the Mutual Legal Assistance against Offences and Criminal Matters (Amendment) Bill 2019 in April 2019 to enable Hong Kong to have jurisdictions with no long-term mutual legal assistance arrangements. Start a case cooperation.
On June 15, the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, Mrs Lam, announced that the SAR Government had decided to suspend the revision of the Fugitive Offenders Ordinance.
Beijing News reporter Wang Hongchun
Editor Guo Shen`


[05-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been on the news, yeah


[05-Sep-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/bXEddCLW3SM

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New Prius Helps Environment By Killing Its Owner
Toyota's new Prius Solution reduces its driver's carbon footprint to zero by impaling them through the lungs with spikes as soon as they get in the car. Subs...
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[05-Sep-19 04:07 AM] illumnious#7938
great


[05-Sep-19 04:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8a1YEhk_o

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Honest Government Ad | Climate Emergency & School Strikes
The Australien Government has made an ad about its Climate Change Policy and it's surprisingly honest and informative! Join a student strike in your city tod...
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[05-Sep-19 04:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/czre2z/markets_warm_to_idea_of_a_labour_government_risks/

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r/ukpolitics - Markets warm to idea of a Labour government. Risks ...
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[05-Sep-19 04:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
mfw even capitalists want corbyn because tories are straight up bad for the economy


[05-Sep-19 04:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is the bizzaro world we live in


[05-Sep-19 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1168970949586280448

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‘Help! Help! Who Am I? Where Am I? Who Are You People?’ Says Biden In Embarrassing Campaign Gaffe https://t.co/GQK8PPtA65
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[05-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, the account on this tweet you linked is protected now :( https://twitter.com/non_bona_dicta/status/1166399004206350339

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LET THEM EAT B O O T S T R A P S | Anti-poverty, anti-prison. 
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[05-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
that was the one about obama paying for biden's family's medical care or something


[05-Sep-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bustle.com/p/obama-offered-to-pay-for-beau-bidens-cancer-treatment-its-still-a-defining-moment-for-joe-2999387

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This Touching Moment Sums Up The Strength Of Obama & Joe Biden's F...
During an interview with InStyle, Joe Biden revealed that when his son was diagnosed with cancer, he had considered selling his home to cover treatment costs. But Barack Obama wouldn't have any of it. The former vice president told InStyle that…
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[05-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[05-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I find it funny THIS was the first article I found


[05-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider the title


[05-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the content


[05-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying that Obama paying for Beau's care was a touching moment


[05-Sep-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
#JustMildlyHorrifyingHeadlines


[05-Sep-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joe Biden was considering SELLING HIS HOUSE TO SAVE HIS SON


[05-Sep-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the fukking vice president of the US was about to sell his own home because of the cost of healthcare for his dying son.


[05-Sep-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is the system he wants to keep.


[05-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-offers-full-support-for-johnson-as-pence-prepares-to-visit-london-amid-brexit-chaos/2019/09/04/32ca7f7c-cf3d-11e9-b29b-a528dc82154a_story.html


[05-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
fucking idiot offers other fucking idiot full support for being a fucking idiot


[05-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
> President Trump stuck by embattled British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday, offering encouragement for the fight to take Britain out of the European Union as the political turmoil in Great Britain complicated a week of European diplomacy for Vice President Pence.


[05-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
> “He’s a friend of mine, and he’s going at it, there’s no question about it,” Trump said, noting that he had watched Johnson on television earlier in the day. “Boris knows how to win. Don’t worry about him.”


[05-Sep-19 05:10 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oof


[05-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Ma8CX6Jzo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Ma8CX6Jzo
Joe Biden's Eye Fills With Blood During CNN Climate Town Hall
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[05-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
that's a yikes


[05-Sep-19 05:12 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
how did the prime minister get found out ?


[05-Sep-19 05:12 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
was there a recording like for cunt ?


[05-Sep-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
also, it's annoying that the only sites reporting on biden's eye filling up with blood are the near far-right clown sites that rabidly support trump


[05-Sep-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's almost like CNN and MSNBC are pushing surprisingly and irrationally hard for Biden to win


[05-Sep-19 05:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait wait whut is this about blood eye ?


[05-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
watch the video


[05-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
biden's left eye's sclera is filled with blood


[05-Sep-19 05:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[05-Sep-19 05:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's a bit disturbing


[05-Sep-19 05:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
biden's chances of beating trump are diminishing by the day


[05-Sep-19 05:17 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
eugh wow that blood


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
did he not feel it or sumthin ?


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
biden is the least likely candidate to beat trump


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I agree


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
I really think only bernie can reliably defeat trump


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
maybe


[05-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
and maybe warren


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dunno much about bernie there


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I like him but at the same time I dont trust him


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ya know ?


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
but the rest is definitely no guarantee


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
and biden is the lowest


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
good


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
hopefully is health will make him stop like how it got for clition


[05-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that biden is still in a position to just be unilaterally picked by the DNC for being establishment


[05-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
which will lead to another 4 years of trump


[05-Sep-19 05:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
sadly yes


[05-Sep-19 05:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
this is a pretty weak debate


[05-Sep-19 05:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sanders or warren stand a good chance


[05-Sep-19 05:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
biden needs to go


[05-Sep-19 05:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump is going to make remarks on his age and deteriorating mental health that he'll be unable to refute


[05-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pick whoever can win and worry about policy once you have the White House


[05-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is the best candidate.


[05-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
she's not really anti-establishment though


[05-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
and anti-establishment is vogue atm


[05-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm personally just worried at times that there's an overestimation on how electable progressives are


[05-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just look at O'Rourke


[05-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Ossoff


[05-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
o'rourke is not progressive


[05-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
he's young biden


[05-Sep-19 05:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Anti-establishment" can mean anything provided that you can properly convince people of what the establishment is


[05-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
maybe compared to biden he might be described as "progressive", but he's very firmly establishment


[05-Sep-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
establishment for Dems basically means "DNC would like them to win"


[05-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
the establishment right now is economically conservative


[05-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is destroying the US, and it might already be too late to save the US


[05-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
the global economy is already showing the effects of the status quo coming to an end


[05-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
and it's mostly centered around the US's economy floundering


[05-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
as much as the numbers are "up", none of the positives that usually come with the numbers being up are making an appearance


[05-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren wants to break up big tech


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is that establishment


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't really think of Warren as establishment


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
what has she actually done in congress that supports her position?


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
I don't actually know much about her


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
maybe a little bit in that she's already popular with Dems


[05-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
I just know that she's been pretty cozy with the DNC


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
~~golly~~


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that makes sense too


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
> Elizabeth Warren is the senior United States Senator from Massachusetts. She is a member of the Democratic Party, after switching party affiliation from the Republican Party in 1996


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because she was a bit of a big name Democrat in the past couple of years


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
what a twist


[05-Sep-19 05:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, she changed her mind
people do that


[05-Sep-19 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
oh, she became a senator in 2012


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
thought she was one of the old fogies


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, it's hard to do much in the Senate when well


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's been in office for decades


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
uh


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
McConnell lol


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
yeah she looks ok


[05-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
bernie's still got a lot of momentum from 2016 though


[05-Sep-19 05:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so who really has the most chance of winning if possible ?


[05-Sep-19 05:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm thinking Sanders or Warren


[05-Sep-19 05:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm biased towards Yang, but I think that if he gets the nomination he's also got a good shot at winning


[05-Sep-19 05:56 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm quietly hoping Sanders or Warren will grab folks like Yang and Inslee and the younger set and go "I'll be the public face.  Go to work.  Let's get some shit done."


[05-Sep-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that would also be a good outcome


[05-Sep-19 05:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the good ideas of the smaller candidates being repped by the larger ones that use their name recognition to get into office and get shit done


[05-Sep-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is the candidate that the most voters support.


[05-Sep-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can reach across the aisle to segregationists, klan members, military industrial complex shareholders, and child rapists.


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and Christian extremists.


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless there is a rapid boomer die-off


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
biden will probably sadly win


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
and be trump but not openly a dumbass


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally noone young likes him


[05-Sep-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden projects a view of an America that doesn't solve problems, but makes sure everyone thinks it's fine as the rest of the world burns.


[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
the extension of the human lifetime was a mistake


[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
mandatory death at 50 when


[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
you become compost


[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
for glorious produce


[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe 60 since I'm nice

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[05-Sep-19 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
or make it illegal to vote once you're 60


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
because you're not affecting your own future


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
An America that steps on the bakks of immigrants to build a fence that keeps latinos out, and tells blakk people that they're technically allowed to work, so what's the problem with arresting all their family?


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
you could drop dead at any moment


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
and probably should


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
I for one would happily drop dead at 60 tbh


[05-Sep-19 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
smh stupid boomers and their will to live while ruining the planet for everyone else


[05-Sep-19 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[05-Sep-19 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
boomercide when


[05-Sep-19 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
we can have lynch mobs for black people but not for boomers?


[05-Sep-19 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
sounds fake


[05-Sep-19 06:37 AM] Treascair#7785
and this is where I bow out of the conversation, because that took a turn and a half for the uncomfortable.


[05-Sep-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
wanting to destroy that which would seek to destroy you is a natural reaction


[05-Sep-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics626.html


[05-Sep-19 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it pretty easy to say "Hitler could have been aborted" in response to something like that last comic


[05-Sep-19 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8c0c9df72b894bf1952d3bebfbf1f3ce

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HK leader says bill withdrawal own decision, not Beijing's
HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam said Thursday that the decision to withdraw an extradition bill that sparked months of demonstrations in the semi-autonomous Chinese territory was her...
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[05-Sep-19 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/139815d9b9ff4aef9777b68cf7a587f8

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Biden tells Colbert his 'gaffes' aren't 'substantive'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden says verbal missteps and factual errors he's made while campaigning aren't "substantive." The former vice president made his...
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[05-Sep-19 02:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[05-Sep-19 03:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/congratulations-anti-vaxxers-ve-saved-173456164.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LnVtYmxyLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALFihw40WslGDSlrNCXn1MS-3tUuwNkgTjSmtmf8NVhMYBaPXeS81it7UKlH-m3FJ53UqCeXg6Trk9plDXaDxLd6PCQxDg6YvR_l8IBMI3WgzM6tt1uCg_iCFepj5PBN0tedJMpibyMkdqAFkXDw_8PnAGaOv8WNtC0NHqOTOLXc

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Congratulations, Anti-Vaxxers! You’ve Saved Measles!
Great work preserving a virus that kills children! You should all be proud.
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[05-Sep-19 04:00 PM] Mikey#7286
Omg


[05-Sep-19 04:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Criminal liability for parents who have kids that infect other kids and harm them please


[05-Sep-19 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/3vPzXMX

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The slow death of Russia (an account of the long and complicated internal politics of the Putin regime)
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[05-Sep-19 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim


[05-Sep-19 05:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Meh, everyone in Russia knows about it.


[05-Sep-19 05:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They live in that country after all.


[05-Sep-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/pentagon-pulls-funds-for-military-schools-to-pay-for-trumps-border-wall.html

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Pentagon pulls funds for military schools, daycare to pay for Trum...
The Pentagon said on Wednesday it would pull funding from 127 Defense Department projects, including schools and daycare centers for military families, as it diverts $3.6 billion to fund President Donald Trump's wall along the U.S. border with Mexico.
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[05-Sep-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL4McUzXfFI

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JOJO RABBIT | Official Trailer [HD] | FOX Searchlight
Writer director Taika Waititi (THOR: RAGNAROK, HUNT FOR THE WILDERPEOPLE), brings his signature style of humor and pathos to his latest film, JOJO RABBIT, a ...
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[05-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"WeRE a RePUbLIc NoT a DeMoCRacY"- smoothbrain


[05-Sep-19 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It gives more rights to rural America than anyone else, they get special voting treatment


[05-Sep-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know a solution


[05-Sep-19 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, in a sense, it only inflames the disparity between urban and rural america


[05-Sep-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
creates swing states, basically makes elections into a complicated game where you have to appease to specific population groups on a few certain states


[05-Sep-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe like


[05-Sep-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nuke DC


[05-Sep-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Restart


[05-Sep-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give metro areas their own vote


[05-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I like my solution better


[05-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Texas gets their votes as a state


[05-Sep-19 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, other systems will invariably place value on other regions


[05-Sep-19 07:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it seems to be more of a system where a specific patch of land is counted as a voter, rather than the people themselves


[05-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the Houston/Dallas/Austin/El Paso metros etc get separate votes in addition to contributing to the state vote


[05-Sep-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This way a blue island would have a voice


[05-Sep-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So would red ones


[05-Sep-19 07:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why the Founding Fathers did it made sense at the time, but the mentality of the Founding Fathers is not the mentality of the US today


[05-Sep-19 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[05-Sep-19 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
George Washington couldn't have predicted the magical shiny bricks of rapid social interaction we have today


[05-Sep-19 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
neither could he have predicted lobbies, in a way


[05-Sep-19 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the founding fathers' thought does have its merits, but is not immortal


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would work if you broke up highly-populous states


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You'd have to break up cities too


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you made sure it was hard for political ideas to cluster in particular states.


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You really don't


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
All changing to popular vote does is make candidates focus on the big cities


[05-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is highly-populous states with very close political splits.


[05-Sep-19 08:07 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So instead of Florida and Ohio, it's NYC and LA


[05-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is the biggie


[05-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that's not correct


[05-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you do popular vote then the number of cities is pretty high to go to


[05-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
NYC and LA are big yes, but little else compares


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You end up going to every state capital just to make it worthwhile


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are *50* of those


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The math doesn't really add up for it as a viable strategy.


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That or you just go to the top 10 most populous cities


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't do enuff tho


[05-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
what you would actually want to do is go to the most populous *areas*


[05-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
like between Boston and Washington DC


[05-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you'd want speaking events placed strategically when going between those areas


[05-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like stopping in Kansas to speak, then in Mississippi, on your way to Houston


[05-Sep-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This ignores certain areas but not by much


[05-Sep-19 08:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A lot of populous cities are clustered together


[05-Sep-19 08:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The point is, all this does is change campaign strategy


[05-Sep-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
reform the US territorial administration into a handful of large states encompassing cultural regions, boom, problem solved 😎


[05-Sep-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Campaign strategy is important.


[05-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
How presidential candidates need to campaign directly affects their actualy policy items.


[05-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now the way they need to campaign strongly supports moderate policies catering to populous areas


[05-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because campaigning in deep blue or red territory is pointless, even moreso than campaigning in less populous areas


[05-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
These policies strongly support neoliberalism, and candidates that resemble Biden, Trump, and Hillary.


[05-Sep-19 08:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So your campaign now just supports a different set of policies helping another electorally important group


[05-Sep-19 08:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If you popular vote


[05-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a much, much, MUCH bigger deal than you think.


[05-Sep-19 08:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why does the popular vote campaign strategy lead to better policies


[05-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because then you need to actually throw a bone to Texas and California and New York


[05-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doing so leads to larger pushes for reform


[05-Sep-19 08:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At the expense of underdeveloped rural areas?


[05-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Underdeveloped rural areas are screwed in all voting systems except some kind of rural monarchy.


[05-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans right now are driving rural areas into the dirt


[05-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Democrats support plans that would help them


[05-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
notice that Republicans won in large part on empty promises, making rural areas vote for them


[05-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And can continue to do so for a long time.


[05-Sep-19 08:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I need to go to a class at 2:30 but so far you're making sense


[05-Sep-19 08:15 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
We might continue this later


[05-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The basic point is that if you weaken any complex gamey strategy, then suddenly candidates need to actually support legislation.


[05-Sep-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That leads to them addressing issues more.


[05-Sep-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49594793

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PM's brother quits as Tory MP and minister
Jo Johnson, younger brother of Boris Johnson, says he's "torn between family and national interest".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07mk04x.jpg


[05-Sep-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, jo johnson looks like a much more coherent version of boris johnson


[05-Sep-19 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://time.com/5667413/vegan-sues-barbecue/

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Vegan Sues Neighbor for Barbecuing Meat In Backyard
“It’s deliberate, that’s what I told the courts, it’s deliberate.”
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[05-Sep-19 09:12 PM] Null#8338
Vegans need to stop


[05-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Emojipedia/status/1168964860551585793

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Emojipedia 📙 (@Emojipedia)
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New in Android 10: 🧎 Person Kneeling https://t.co/LyxRFKQbl9
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[05-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Emojipedia/status/1168965144661123073

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Emojipedia 📙 (@Emojipedia)
https://twitter.com/Emojipedia/status/1168965144661123073
New in Android 10: 🧎‍♀️ Woman Kneeling https://t.co/Kid134j4Pa
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[05-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
... I feel like this is related to the kneeling football player thing


[05-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
also, notice how it says "person kneeling", and then immediately below it, it says "woman kneeling"


[05-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
it's like it's implying women aren't persons


[05-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Null#8338
This isn’t how I kneel though


[05-Sep-19 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
indeed, there are two types of humans who aren't considered persons by the system


[05-Sep-19 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
women


[05-Sep-19 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and gamers

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[05-Sep-19 09:19 PM] Null#8338
What about woman gamers? They’re like negative people


[05-Sep-19 09:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Female Gamer Minorities are the most opressed of all 😔 😔 😔


[05-Sep-19 09:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Woman gamers only allowed to play sims or mercy in overwatch


[05-Sep-19 09:24 PM] Null#8338
I don’t feel so oppressed. And I play HOI4


[05-Sep-19 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait


[05-Sep-19 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The two genders, Person and Woman


[05-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
To be fair, they do have a seperate one for "man kneeling" as well ~~yeah I know I'm killing the joke~~

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[05-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Null#8338
Now they need androgynous mess kneeling for myself


[05-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/opinion/italy-government-salvini-populism.html

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By MATTIA FERRARESI
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/opinion/italy-government-salvini-populism.html
Opinion | Want to Stop Right-Wing Populists? Then Don’t Do This
A flimsy coalition has sidelined Italy’s far-right populist, Matteo Salvini. He will seek revenge.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/04/opinion/04ferraresi/04ferraresi-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Sep-19 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> There’s a number of things any savvy politician who cares about liberal democracy should avoid: feeding the idea that the popular will is generally disregarded and political power is managed by unelected elites in smoked-filled rooms; forming politically incoherent alliances with the sole purpose of excluding populists; and fueling the perception that the most important decisions of a country are taken outside of its borders.


[05-Sep-19 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
2/3 of these perceptions are true tho


[05-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Null#8338
Yeah these are true usually


[05-Sep-19 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
pointing them out isn't "not caring for liberal democracy", it's just stating what's structurally true


[05-Sep-19 09:38 PM] Null#8338
I mean, a lot of modern day democratic institutions need drastic reforms


[05-Sep-19 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nevertheless, Salvini is a nutjob who deserved to be fired


[05-Sep-19 09:44 PM] Null#8338
Agreed no quarter for hardline populists


[06-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2019/09/05/jennifer-erin-talbot-ohio-arrested-philippines-baby-bag/2218708001/

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Ohio woman arrested with baby hidden in bag at Philippines airport
Officials say Jennifer Erin Talbot, from Ohio, was intercepted at the boarding gate by airline personnel.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/09/05/USAT/54b94500-1911-492a-834b-ab3ef8d2e4ad-AP_Philippines_American_Arrested.JPG?crop=2767,1557,x0,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[06-Sep-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.good.is/when-mike-pence-arrived-in-iceland-he-was-greeted-by-a-fabulous-display-of-gay-pride

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When Mike Pence arrived in Iceland he was greeted by a fabulous di...
"All Pence will see everywhere on his visit is gay gay gay."
https://assets.rbl.ms/21089966/1200x600.jpg?1567721313


[06-Sep-19 12:16 AM] Litrojia#0612
The gays have taken control of Iceland


[06-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Litrojia#0612
The agenda is going according to plan


[06-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.good.is/xx-of-the-funniest-responses-to-trumps-sharpie-marked-hurricane-map

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https://www.good.is/xx-of-the-funniest-responses-to-trumps-sharpie-marked-hurricane-map
21 of the funniest responses to Trump’s Sharpie-marked hurricane...
Nailed it.
https://assets.rbl.ms/21090386/1200x600.jpg?1567720630


[06-Sep-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1169362030966509568

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https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1169362030966509568
Historic special edition 
Mixed Free Territory + Scotland, and created this new country called Free Scotland:
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[06-Sep-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
HEY


[06-Sep-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
THAT FLAG LOOKS FAMILIAR


[06-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1169720609095462913

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Matthew Garrahan (@MattGarrahan)
https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1169720609095462913
The BBC is reporting that the Conservative government may put forward a vote of no confidence in itself
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[06-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
🇬🇧


[06-Sep-19 12:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1169362826718261250

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Flags Mashup Bot (@FlagsMashupBot)
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1169362826718261250
Meaning:

"Death to all those who stand in the way of the working people."

src : https://t.co/P94gsyb0IQ https://t.co/h3ySNSBqjC
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[06-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders has basically low key said this.


[06-Sep-19 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/jw97mp2spuf31.png

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[06-Sep-19 12:43 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/US-woman-arrested-at-Manila-airport-with-baby-hidden-in-bag-559465811.html

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US woman arrested at Manila airport with baby hidden in bag
An American woman who attempted to carry a 6-day-old baby out of the Philippines hidden inside a sling bag has been arrested at Manila’s airport and charged with human trafficking, officials said Thursday.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/0905_babywoman_CNN.JPG


[06-Sep-19 12:54 AM] ononim#8141
For those who don't get the flag mashup post: the bot got not actuall free territory flag, but a ponified version


[06-Sep-19 01:00 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
hmmm I wonder what would the canadents/ trump pony name be hmmm owo


[06-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
True story: Every morning the first thing I do is check my phone for news that the inevitable nuclear apocalypse started overnight


[06-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After that I check the weather


[06-Sep-19 01:04 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
🅱


[06-Sep-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2lavbdyinrk31.jpg

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[06-Sep-19 01:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[06-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Oh no_


[06-Sep-19 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
hilarious


[06-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/09/05/757610310/how-a-no-deal-brexit-could-destroy-the-irish-dairy-industry-and-threaten-peace

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How A No-Deal Brexit Could Destroy The Irish Dairy Industry — An...
The lack of a border has contributed to a booming dairy business between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland – the types of dealings experts say helped make peace between the two a reality.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/09/05/img_2502_wide-9ded77b9327a77dd8932f2d3a87604d36e2f7231.jpg?s=1400


[06-Sep-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
> How A No-Deal Brexit Could Destroy The Irish Dairy Industry — And Threaten Peace


[06-Sep-19 03:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so would brexit be good or bad :v


[06-Sep-19 03:15 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I have no idea anymore but i plan on living in uk with my soon to be husband


[06-Sep-19 03:15 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and its all just really confusing


[06-Sep-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's bad


[06-Sep-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's really bad


[06-Sep-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
England is about to be completely fucked


[06-Sep-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Don't move there


[06-Sep-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Go somewhere else


[06-Sep-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Housing will be cheap soon, at least


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
well im gonna move there to be with him and really ?


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
we are looking for a house our self


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
at least something to rent


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd recommend renting for the next year at least


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah we plan on moving next year


[06-Sep-19 03:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
we are dealing with his sister for now


[06-Sep-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will take about that long for owners to start selling to a market that doesn't want to buy


[06-Sep-19 03:21 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
well he is already living in an aparament and uk college is cheap


[06-Sep-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
The price of everything is going to inflate like crazy and wages are likely going to go down


[06-Sep-19 03:21 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and I plan on doing college while there


[06-Sep-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I hope you're american or commonwealth, because otherwise expect xenophobia


[06-Sep-19 03:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yup full on american


[06-Sep-19 03:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
white and cis


[06-Sep-19 03:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[06-Sep-19 03:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
im middle class tho ?


[06-Sep-19 03:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but they probably wont like that lol


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
sense uk is so weird on weapons


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
is there anyone i can use to defend my self ?


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
im gonna be alone in the apartment alot


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK is far less violent than the nicer parts of the states


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
im worried about the acid thing


[06-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just that when violence happens people make a big deal out of it


[06-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you're in the literal worst parts of London, ie. the projects, or the same worst parts of Nottingham or Newcastle, you'll be fine


[06-Sep-19 03:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oof nowhere near london


[06-Sep-19 03:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
small village area


[06-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And trust me, you can tell when you're in a bad area


[06-Sep-19 03:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah


[06-Sep-19 03:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he knows too


[06-Sep-19 03:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he will tell me about the people there


[06-Sep-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Get a map, find the nearest McDonalds, and make a 1km radius circle in red


[06-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'll be the chav-zone


[06-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same for shoe shops, the sort that only sell white sneakers


[06-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
or "trainers"


[06-Sep-19 03:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
chav-zones ?


[06-Sep-19 03:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
whats that ?


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
chav, council housed and violent


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The equivalent of white trash


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ooo


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah mcdonalds is all the trash


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No studies, no job, no intention of getting either, thugish, stupid, and violent


[06-Sep-19 03:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i used to work there before i got sick lol


[06-Sep-19 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll always be near McD's because fries are cheap


[06-Sep-19 03:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oof


[06-Sep-19 03:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thansk for letting me know


[06-Sep-19 03:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I will tell him that


[06-Sep-19 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it's actually a small town it's likely not an issue


[06-Sep-19 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Country has hundreds of small towns too far away from cities to have chav problems


[06-Sep-19 03:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
nah its a small village let me link ya


[06-Sep-19 03:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its by southend on sea


[06-Sep-19 03:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and thats a college area


[06-Sep-19 03:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Essex_(England)

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Essex (England)
Essex is a large county in East Anglia, England.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Shirehall.jpeg/1200px-Shirehall.jpeg


[06-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's... not really a town


[06-Sep-19 03:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats where i will be living tho


[06-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a posh area, but the whole place is more of a sparsely populated city that stretches forever than something like a village


[06-Sep-19 03:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
eyup a lil village area


[06-Sep-19 03:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and yeah very posh


[06-Sep-19 03:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
i honestly dont know much about "posh"


[06-Sep-19 03:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but im sure he can teach me


[06-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Litrojia#0612
spread-out city isn't a lil village :ponythinking:


[06-Sep-19 03:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its very small tho once you get there


[06-Sep-19 03:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
suburb are


[06-Sep-19 03:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
*area


[06-Sep-19 03:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
it kinda reminds me of my town actually


[06-Sep-19 03:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but not with the posh part lol


[06-Sep-19 04:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49601678

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Bernie Sanders in 'population control' uproar
The White House hopeful said abortion and birth control should be used to fight climate change.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/10381/production/_108633466_hi056196977-1.jpg


[06-Sep-19 04:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
He's not wrong...


[06-Sep-19 04:03 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Overpopulation is a issue


[06-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Litrojia#0612
Like a lot of what Bernie's said in the past, he has a point, but it came across in a way that could be twisted in any way


[06-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
First I heard of this was from someone reading a Daily Wire article with headline that basically hinted at genocide


[06-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
which, they'll twist anything anyways, but in this case it's easy as hell


[06-Sep-19 04:15 AM] Litrojia#0612
`Bernie Sanders Wants To Exterminate The Surplus Human Population. But Why Isn't He In The Surplus?`


[06-Sep-19 04:15 AM] Litrojia#0612
also sounds like a threat


[06-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/elizabeth-warren-comes-out-against-nuclear-power

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Elizabeth Warren comes out against nuclear power
Elizabeth Warren said Wednesday she would oppose the building of new nuclear plants in America and work to phase out existing nuclear power from the energy mix.
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[06-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd vote for Sanders-Thanos.


[06-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Litrojia#0612
oof


[06-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Litrojia#0612
trying to look into nuclear positions. Bernie doesn't like it either, which isn't a surprise


[06-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Litrojia#0612
By my understanding/opinion, proper renewables are more responsible than nuclear, but for now, nuclear can help reduce fossil fuel dependence faster


[06-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breeder reactors are fairly responsible


[06-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble is they don't provide nukes


[06-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
so no country wants them.


[06-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw Yang actually looks like the best candidate


[06-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear power is only ever wanted by countries for weapons.


[06-Sep-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What happened to the dream of building canals with them


[06-Sep-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was retarded.


[06-Sep-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's another one of those "spectacular incidents strike fear" cases


[06-Sep-19 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, just look into the history of operation ploughshare


[06-Sep-19 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
turns out it's a bad idea to excavate tons of earth by turning it into radioactive fallout


[06-Sep-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/RGRy6OU.jpg

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Difference in reporting events: British Sun vs Scottish Sun
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[06-Sep-19 06:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
sun's garbage anyway


[06-Sep-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
so I found out my mom thinks the george carlin skit about environmentalism is mocking the idea of it, but it's actually mocking the idea that humans could destroy the planet, it directly states that humans will destroy themselves and bring along most other life with it, but the planet itself will survive


[06-Sep-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

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candidskeptic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4
George Carlin on The Environment
Jammin in New York: April 24th, 1992 The Planet is Fine, The People are Fucked Earth: 4,500,000,000 years People: 200,000 years The Earth Has Been Around 22,...
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[06-Sep-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/youtube-to-pay-170-million-in-ftc-child-privacy-settlement.html

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YouTube will pay $170 million to settle claims it violated child p...
The FTC's probe found that the company violated privacy policies aimed at protecting children.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103921018-GettyImages-503572722.jpg?v=1567605330


[06-Sep-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
COPPA was shitty legislation written by out-of-touch boomers who belong six feet under.


[06-Sep-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the tl;dr is that YouTube has to now make any content that's believed to be directed at children (which it will of course hav an algorithm to determine), it will disable all ability for users to actually interact about such


[06-Sep-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it'll much more heavily segment away any stuff to kids


[06-Sep-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The practical effect is likely to be that gaming channels start dropping like flies


[06-Sep-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause GAMES ARE FOR KIDS etc.


[06-Sep-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The really stupid part is


[06-Sep-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
COPPA is similar in its goals to GDPR


[06-Sep-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because it's American


[06-Sep-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like, privacy protection BUT ONLY FOR CHILDREN


[06-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because adults clearly don't deserve protections


[06-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's America's shitty half-measure that just fukks everything up.


[06-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
COPPA is why 12-year-olds can't put code on GitHub, ever


[06-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it's so broad and stupid that the simple act of attributing commits to a child would be too much


[06-Sep-19 08:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mugabe is dead


[06-Sep-19 08:09 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
about time


[06-Sep-19 12:54 PM] Litrojia#0612
🦀


[06-Sep-19 12:57 PM] ononim#8141
Nice


[06-Sep-19 01:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://ncase.itch.io/wbwwb

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We Become What We Behold by Nicky Case!
a game about news cycles, vicious cycles, infinite cycles
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[06-Sep-19 03:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.html

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Opinion | Centrists Are the Most Hostile to Democracy, Not Extremists
Research shows that it’s not the far right or far left that is the least supportive of democracy and the most supportive of authoritarianism. It’s the center.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/23centrists-1527099286435/23centrists-1527099286435-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[06-Sep-19 03:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
👏 Death 👏 to 👏 Liberals 👏  for 👏 hating 👏 democracy.


[06-Sep-19 05:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/0j92lkd3ksk31.jpg

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[06-Sep-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Hey @Teaspoon


[06-Sep-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Did you know that if you say "I'm not racist but"


[06-Sep-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
You're not racist?


[06-Sep-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔


[06-Sep-19 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lifehack


[06-Sep-19 05:41 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I do think overpopulation is a huge problem that would eventually bite us all in the back unless something drastic is done.


[06-Sep-19 05:41 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Every person weput into this planet will consume and generate their share of waste in their lifetimes


[06-Sep-19 05:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I doesn't take a genius to know that


[06-Sep-19 05:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So we want to save the planet...


[06-Sep-19 05:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🔫


[06-Sep-19 05:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's a difficult truth to come to terms with


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Even more difficult to discuss about it


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Stalin was just trying to save us all from overpopulation :twismug:


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Heh


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So did Mao


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And the Fuhrer


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Lol


[06-Sep-19 05:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
China was right about 1 child


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
They relaxed their 1 child policy


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Because people stopped fucking


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@PwnyPony if only they introduced measures that would curb the discrimination between sex of the child


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
And that's worse for the economy than overpopulation


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Chinese traditionally value male babies more than they do female


[06-Sep-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
And now it seems like they're not going to start fucking again


[06-Sep-19 05:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We need Thanos more than ever


[06-Sep-19 05:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
China is a sausage fest now.


[06-Sep-19 05:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Which is a shame. Because Chinese babes are hot


[06-Sep-19 05:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
No bias here


[06-Sep-19 05:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
A women shortage is a nightmare scenario


[06-Sep-19 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
You're just saying that because you're asian :v


[06-Sep-19 05:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Black hair and brown eyes Master race


[06-Sep-19 05:47 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We Chinese are the destined ubermensch


[06-Sep-19 05:47 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Han Chinese uvermensch


[06-Sep-19 05:48 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Pure Han Chinese world


[06-Sep-19 05:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nah. according to Chinese media there tones of "left over women" that have not been taken that they need to set up coupling businesses and will pair you with them even after they are dead.


[06-Sep-19 05:48 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Zombies eligible?


[06-Sep-19 05:49 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm a proud Asian supremacist:op: :pudding:


[06-Sep-19 05:50 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
STUPID


[06-Sep-19 05:51 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Lol


[06-Sep-19 05:51 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Everyone's speechless. IN FEAR


[06-Sep-19 05:54 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The less fat people we have on this planet. The more this planet can be saved


[06-Sep-19 05:54 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Make the planet beautiful again.


[06-Sep-19 05:55 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm evil


[06-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
All we need is ww3


[06-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And problems solved


[06-Sep-19 06:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There are a surprising amount of Asians here :ponythinking:


[06-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
our current food capacity could feed every person in the world tens of thousands of times over


[06-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
we don't need to kill people to rebalance the environment yet


[06-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
100 companies produce 71% of the global emissions


[06-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
I'm willing to bet it's something similar with general waste produced


[06-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090716/5-countries-produce-most-waste.asp

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5 Countries That Produce the Most Waste
As economies have grown and populations have increased, the rate at which countries produce waste has risen. Some of the top countries may surprise you.
https://www.investopedia.com/thmb/MMMdtigPGOez-gwaA38ore0i5wI=/680x440/filters:fill(auto,1)/thinkstockphotos-487491909-5bfc2b6446e0fb0083c075a7.jpg


[06-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/12/canada-united-states-worlds-biggest-producers-of-waste/39534923/

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Canada produces the most waste in the world. The US ranks third
The construction industry is often the largest culprit, generating more than 90% of the total waste produced in a country.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b2b05a4ab25f4fca0316459e1c7404c537a89702/c=0-0-1365-768/local/-/media/2019/05/31/USATODAY/usatsports/247WallSt.com-247WS-551097-0c0754d2.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop


[06-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
> While much of the focus is on individuals and families and the amount of trash they generate, residential trash is only a fraction of the garbage produced by certain industries.


[06-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
@SeraphimDawn


[06-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
E A T   T H E   R I C H


[06-Sep-19 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
> In many countries on our list, the construction industry is often the largest culprit, generating more than 90% of the total waste produced in a country. China is a notable exception, where more than half of the waste is agricultural or industrial.


[06-Sep-19 07:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
The individual person contributes a negligible proportion of the waste and consumption in the world, and to argue we need to be more frugil on an individual basis overlooks this, as well as shifts blame onto people who ultimately don't consume a whole lot already. Not everyone in Africa consumes the same in America, and in America not everyone has the choice to consume any less because the rate at which we consume is inherent to how our institutions are set up, and how the economy functions.


[06-Sep-19 07:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
So it stands to reason that institutional and economic changes would drastically alter how we produce, from using bio-degradable natural-fiber nets in fishing so plastic line isn't adding to the great garbage patches (because a majority of that is all plastic fishing equipment, straws contribute a very small proportion of the trash but happens to be all around more graphic for le marketing purposes). The way in which garbage and refuse is handled is also a factor, and the poor way garbage is handled is an effect of pursuing profit and not best-practice.


[06-Sep-19 07:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which ties itself into the general logic of capitalism all around.


[06-Sep-19 07:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
and the immense garbage in third-world nations is part of the geopolitics of first-world to third-world nations where all the dirty beaches and giant open refuse dumps in India or Africa and such is an effect of this countries being made to shoulder the burden of the First World's garbage production. It's why China refusing to take on more trash is such a big issue.


[06-Sep-19 07:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-strange-thing-happens-if-you-use-mouthwash-after-you-exercise

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A Strange Thing Happens if You Use Mouthwash After You Exercise
In ads on TV, it all looks so simple. People use mouthwash, it instantly neutralises all the nasty bacteria hiding in their mouths, and – just like that – their dental hygiene is assured.
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2019-09/processed/017-mouthwash-exercise_1024.jpg


[06-Sep-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
doi:10.1016/j.freeradbiomed.2019.07.035


[06-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Litrojia#0612
Clickbait, and not politics?


[06-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Litrojia#0612
wot


[06-Sep-19 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
here's the article

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[06-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
I saw a non-clickbait article headline about that, basically using mouthwash (specifically, the alcohol in the mouthwash) after you exercise neutralizes most, if not all, of the blood pressure decrease usually associated with exercise


[06-Sep-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/abc_atm_bush_billboard_100209_wg.jpg

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[06-Sep-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/g43zl9u15wk31.jpg

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[06-Sep-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GregJaffe/status/1169934138415222784?s=19

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Greg Jaffe (@GregJaffe)
https://twitter.com/GregJaffe/status/1169934138415222784?s=19
He’s out. Former Starbucks CEO laments his inability to reach the “exhausted majority” in our rabidly partisan times.
https://t.co/AP4FR9ajML
Twitter


[06-Sep-19 10:17 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Crow these industries don't generate waste because they want to y'know! Waste is a byproduct of them RESPONDING to the demands of the masses


[06-Sep-19 10:17 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Corporates don't make demands. They  respond to it.


[06-Sep-19 10:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
"Eat the rich" = Destroy the means of production


[06-Sep-19 10:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
While solving nothing of the bigger and deeper issue


[06-Sep-19 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Actually, they do create demand with marketing


[06-Sep-19 10:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They encourage it. Consumers generate it


[06-Sep-19 10:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Consumers choose to buy things


[06-Sep-19 10:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They choose because they were told to!


[06-Sep-19 10:25 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They were encouraged to


[06-Sep-19 10:25 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Ultimately it's their own decision


[06-Sep-19 10:25 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Quit trying to deflect the blame


[06-Sep-19 10:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I blame everyone


[06-Sep-19 10:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Most of you here simply don't want to confront the reality


[06-Sep-19 10:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
A Thanos snap would be God's blessing


[06-Sep-19 10:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Even if I disappear


[06-Sep-19 10:27 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Peer pressure can only go as far as the subject's willingness to go through


[06-Sep-19 10:28 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
In most circumstances


[06-Sep-19 10:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And that's where corporates chime in


[06-Sep-19 10:29 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Corporates are intelligent enough to take advantage of the STUPIDity of the masses


[06-Sep-19 10:29 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You can't cure STUPID


[06-Sep-19 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because it is kept that way.


[06-Sep-19 10:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Most of these "solutions" being proposed are things that ASSUMES people would make right and intelligent decisions. Time and Time again, history has proven otherwise...


[06-Sep-19 10:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Doesn't matter how "educated" we are


[06-Sep-19 10:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's a perpetual disease


[06-Sep-19 10:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I have no faith in humanity


[06-Sep-19 10:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why african countries are stuck in poverty? Governments intentionaly underfund and mess with cirricum, they keep supporting governments who keep them uneducated.


[06-Sep-19 10:32 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Which is why humanity is fucked.
Good luck


[06-Sep-19 10:32 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We are destined for extinction


[06-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because it is hardcoded to "survive-at-all-costs-or-die".


[06-Sep-19 10:33 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Extinction would be an act of mercy on us all


[06-Sep-19 10:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's unlikely, people who like to be in control, want to have this forever.


[06-Sep-19 10:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Can they sustain it? I wonder ...


[06-Sep-19 10:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Would the universe allow it?


[06-Sep-19 10:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Everything ends


[06-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
For near 5 mil years? for sure.


[06-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless something slips past radar and messes up everyone.


[06-Sep-19 10:36 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
5 million years is a LOOONG stretch of time.


[06-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As I mentioned, something outside of control can mess up a big time


[06-Sep-19 10:39 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That's enough time for the Earth to evolve beyond our recognition.


[06-Sep-19 10:42 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Funny how Crow compared our consumption with the third world's.


[06-Sep-19 10:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You do realize THEY are aspiring to be like us right?


[06-Sep-19 10:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Meanwhile. Would you be willing to drastically cut down on your lavish 1st world lifestyle in order to safe the planet? Or would you rather indulge while you're living your short lives?


[06-Sep-19 10:44 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Sacrifices take commitment which I highly doubt most people are willing to do


[06-Sep-19 10:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Gee. I wonder if the masses would comply to such austere conpromises to their lifestyles?


[06-Sep-19 10:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You people are living so comfortably at the expense of others


[06-Sep-19 10:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This planet


[06-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>you people


[06-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wow


[06-Sep-19 10:47 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Enjoy the life you have.


[06-Sep-19 10:48 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
One or the other. You can't have both


[06-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's what we are TRYing.


[06-Sep-19 10:52 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You're gonna have to do better than that


[06-Sep-19 10:52 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Not everyone is going to just give up their la ish lifestyles. Even for the sake of the planet


[06-Sep-19 10:52 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Life is short


[06-Sep-19 10:53 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Understand that


[06-Sep-19 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Selaphiel is LeftCom gang

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[06-Sep-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
advertising commonly employs extensive psychological manipulation techniques


[06-Sep-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Sep-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea that people are making informed decisions about the things they buy in a  capitalist society is nonsense


[06-Sep-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
they generally aren't


[06-Sep-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
many reasons for that


[06-Sep-19 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Sep-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
(1) they were manipulated into buying it due to pressure from advertisers, and so any legitimate drawbacks were ignored due to confirmation bias
(2) the information wasn't made available to them because it doesn't exist (new product)
(3) bad information or information about drawbacks that would otherwise be available was suppressed by the producer


[06-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
this ^


[06-Sep-19 11:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And marketing implies all these.


[06-Sep-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.alternet.org/2019/09/trumps-total-takeover-states-are-cancelling-gop-primaries-to-protect-the-soft-president-from-challengers/

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Trump’s ‘total takeover’: States are cancelling GOP primarie...
According to a report from Politico, four Republican state parties are making plans to cancel their presidential primaries before the 2020 election making it easier for Donald Trump to hold on to the nomination and avoid criticism from rivals.
https://www.alternet.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/shutterstock_1198949239.jpg


[06-Sep-19 11:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't wait for him to run for Canada's federal election as well


[07-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
@SeraphimDawn, first of all, "eat the rich" means to throw out the people who own the means of production and distribute it equally, not destroy the means of production itself


[07-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
there will always be production, you can't not have produce in civilization


[07-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, corporations do make demand through marketing, but that was already mentioned


[07-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
corporations justify their own existence by convincing people they need their product to be successful


[07-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
and there are some corporations that fulfill vital functions in society


[07-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
but they don't actually pay for the cost of the waste they produce


[07-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
all they care about is their bottom line and profit margins


[07-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
ignoring the fact that you can reorganize the corporation into a cooperative and increase productivity while also reducing waste


[07-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
that's what government regulations are for btw, to force companies to pay for the cost of the waste they produce


[07-Sep-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
either by disposing of it properly, or being punished when they don't


[07-Sep-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as I can tell, the thing about the incumbent party not holding primaries *does* have precedent in both parties


[07-Sep-19 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, as far as I can tell, it might just be a practice that we should throw out like the electoral college


[07-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
they're not holding primaries when there are two challengers to the incumbent


[07-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
I'm like 90% sure that's not normal


[07-Sep-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure it's not. Obama wasn't challenged in his re-election and neither was Bush. What might seem unusual is that given how much shit Trump is getting he should be challenged. But the party hasn't found any significant challenges.


[07-Sep-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in only a handful of states, mind you, but *yes* there is precedent for it


[07-Sep-19 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
But primaries are a purely private affair actually.


[07-Sep-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However obviously precedent does not mean a practice should be legitimized, considering how that's gone down in the past


[07-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Primaries are horrid.


[07-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They favor conservative voters massively.


[07-Sep-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
No. Those'd be mid-terms.


[07-Sep-19 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
And only member of those parties people are signed up for.


[07-Sep-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've got much more meaningful political news on my mind today: Namely, that the house judiciary committee is looking into that whole "Pence staying at a Trump hotel in Ireland" thing as part of the run-up to impeachment investigation...and meanwhile, Trump is trying to investigate automakers for antitrust behavior for agreeing with each other to make cars cleaner than the Trump administration wanted them to.


[07-Sep-19 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dems to Dems, Republicans to Republicans. More conservatives may vote because they're boomers with nothing else. But they don't effect the Dem ticket.


[07-Sep-19 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(btw, **a**ffect is an **a**ction)


[07-Sep-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1170089069105340416 trump made a ytp

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[07-Sep-19 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[07-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/politics/noaa-tweet-nws-trump-alabama/index.html

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NOAA slams weather service tweet that refuted Trump's Alabama claim
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Friday disavowed a tweet from the National Weather Service's Birmingham, Alabama, office that had contradicted President Donald Trump's false assertion that Hurricane Dorian was likely to hit the state.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190904155319-02-trump-altered-hurricane-map-super-tease.jpg


[07-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
> In a statement attributed to an unnamed NOAA spokesperson, the agency said Trump had been given information from August 28 until Monday that Dorian could impact Alabama.


[07-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
> "From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama," the statement read. "This is clearly demonstrated in Hurricane Advisories #15 through #41, which can be viewed on the center's website.


[07-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, trump was originally given information that showed that alabama could be affected by the hurricane


[07-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
and that information was what he was tweeting about


[07-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
granted, he made himself appear to be the petulant child that he was by adding in the sharpie, but his original tweet about alabama being hit by the hurricane was based off of older information he was presented


[07-Sep-19 08:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To me this sounds like "you are both wrong, good day"


[07-Sep-19 08:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We shouldn't let the president off the hook for spreading outdated information *well past the point* the storm took a different route just because some staffer on the NOAA twitter decided to fire back


[07-Sep-19 11:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337

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Air Force crew made an odd stop on a routine trip: Trump’s Scott...
Now the layover is part of a broader House inquiry into military spending at and around the Trump property.
https://static.politico.com/f7/4a/1da21d8340ae8b3151418dc68792/20190906-trump-turnberry-gty-773.jpg


[07-Sep-19 12:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49617081

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Apple, angry at Google, hits back at hack claims
Apple admonishes Google over its research into a security vulnerability, saying it painted an incomplete picture.
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[07-Sep-19 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr: Google published research saying iPhones were vulnerable to mass surveilance hacks
Apple replies that Google "forgot" to mention that Apple patched it out half a year ago, that the vulnerability also affected Android, and more importantly that the vulnerability was only spotted targeting Uighur communities, something Google likely left out given they're currently busy sucking Pooh's dick


[07-Sep-19 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mental-health-storm-dorian-alabama-anthony-scaramucci-a9095481.html

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‘Trump is in severe mental decline': Concern's over president's ...
‘He’s in full-blown meltdown; it’s like the episodes of Chernobyl,’ says sacked communications director
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/09/07/10/trump-alabama.jpg


[07-Sep-19 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
mooch


[07-Sep-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/827032555790680064

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[07-Sep-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
reminder


[07-Sep-19 08:35 PM] Deleted User#0000
:nolike:


[07-Sep-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
this tweet was from february 2017, so just a few weeks after trump was inaugurated


[07-Sep-19 08:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1170366239044231168

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Antifa protested an event called "Ending Racism" headlined by one of the greatest voices in deradicalizing white supremacists, Daryl Davis

He invited them inside to talk

Unfortunately, and to his shock, Antifa actually called *him* a white supremacist

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[07-Sep-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
fox news posted a picture of graffiti saying "No Fascist" and said it was a sign of an emerging "alt-left"


[07-Sep-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
and called it "anti-trump" graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:39 PM] Litrojia#0612
lol


[07-Sep-19 08:41 PM] Deleted User#0000
Well i mean, anybody in antifa in the USA probably isn't doing it because they *like* trump


[07-Sep-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
you aren't understanding


[07-Sep-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
it's literally just an out of context image of "No Fascist" graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
and they called it "anti-trump" graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:43 PM] Deleted User#0000
Why do you think they spray painted it?


[07-Sep-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
there is literally nothing tying that image to trump, unless you consider the idea that trump is a fascist, and given that fox news is trump's base's news source, that's saying that trump's own base thinks he's  a fascist and is okay with it


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
you know what fascism is, right?


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Deleted User#0000

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[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
you know, the holocaust


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
systemically killed 6 million jews (11 million people total)


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
I see what you're trying to say


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
but I mean


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
it's kinda small brain


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
you're confused about very simply explained and direct logic


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Deleted User#0000
trying to get people to go through mental gymnastics


[07-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
there are no gymnastics involved


[07-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
this is a very simple, straightforward thing you're trying to make sound complicated


[07-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
People call trump a fascist, that's antifa's whole schtick


[07-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
That's why they would relate it to trump


[07-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
no, FOX NEWS called trump a fascist


[07-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Deleted User#0000
:ok_brubby:


[07-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
they posted random graffiti of "No Fascist" and said it was anti-trump graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
there was no reason to do that


[07-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
if it said "No Trump", then it would obviously be about trump


[07-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
or if trump was mentioned at all in the graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
but he wasn't


[07-Sep-19 08:47 PM] Deleted User#0000
Except, like I said before, if there's a notable movement of people who call themselves "anti-fascist" and somebody sprays a slogan right after the inauguration....


[07-Sep-19 08:47 PM] Deleted User#0000
Like I said, I see what you're going for


[07-Sep-19 08:47 PM] Deleted User#0000
but.... you're missing the mark


[07-Sep-19 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
why did fox news call it anti-trump when it says "No Fascist"?


[07-Sep-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/09/07/school-daze-2/

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School Daze
Moscow schoolchildren were smart enough to win the All-Russian Chemistry Olympiad in 2017, but the Moscow police department thinks they are not smart enough to know and speak their own minds when i…
https://therussianreader.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/olimpiada_po_himii21.jpg


[07-Sep-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
```On condition of anonymity, a pupil at a school in Moscow has told Mediazona that today, during a lesson, a woman in a police uniform who identified herself as an inspector for minors came to his class. She threatened the schoolchildren with criminal charges if they attended protest rallies and said they would be unable to go to university.

Our source recorded the policewoman’s monologue on his telephone.

“As you know, protest rallies have been going on here in Moscow. People who attend them face administrative charges for this and then criminal charges. When people say they just happened to be in the same place, it makes no impression on me. I just put them on the watch list, and they get visits not only from beat cops but also from detectives,” she says at the beginning of her speech.```


[07-Sep-19 08:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
I don't feel the need to sound like a broken record, so I'll say it once more, a large wave of thugs who call themselves anti fascists break shit and say trump is a fascist


[07-Sep-19 08:48 PM] Deleted User#0000
and after he was inaugurated as president, they put up anti fascist graffiti


[07-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Deleted User#0000
If you didnt include the bit that it was right after his inauguration, you *maaaaaybe* could have stretched it a bit


[07-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Deleted User#0000
If back when Obama was inaugurated, if somebody spray painted "no blacks" on a government building


[07-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Deleted User#0000
wouldn't you think that was motivated with hate for Obama, even if he wasn't mentioned?


[07-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
no, I said the tweet was posted a few weeks after trump's inauguration


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
It's pretty straight forward man, you're not gonna convince anyone with these gymnastics. It's just a smug talking point for far left people


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
fox news was willing to connect trump to fascism only weeks after his inauguration


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
for NO REASON


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
Ok i'm done


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
there was NO REASON to say it was anti-trump


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
Good talking to you crow bro


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
but you're just being silly


[07-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Deleted User#0000
I hope this is a larp for your sake


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
>If back when Obama was inaugurated, if somebody spray painted "no blacks" on a government building


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] Deleted User#0000
As soon as you respond to "If back when Obama was inaugurated, if somebody spray painted "no blacks" on a government building
wouldn't you think that was motivated with hate for Obama, even if he wasn't mentioned?" I'll go back to feeding into the bait


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
But Obama is black


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
Congratulations


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
you played yourself


[07-Sep-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
you're saying I'm the one doing the mental gymnastics when you're the one writing a paragraph to explain what I'm explaining in a 10 word sentence


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
Ima gonna repost since it was drown by ap pointless discussion


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/09/07/school-daze-2/

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School Daze
Moscow schoolchildren were smart enough to win the All-Russian Chemistry Olympiad in 2017, but the Moscow police department thinks they are not smart enough to know and speak their own minds when i…
https://therussianreader.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/olimpiada_po_himii21.jpg


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
```On condition of anonymity, a pupil at a school in Moscow has told Mediazona that today, during a lesson, a woman in a police uniform who identified herself as an inspector for minors came to his class. She threatened the schoolchildren with criminal charges if they attended protest rallies and said they would be unable to go to university.

Our source recorded the policewoman’s monologue on his telephone.

“As you know, protest rallies have been going on here in Moscow. People who attend them face administrative charges for this and then criminal charges. When people say they just happened to be in the same place, it makes no impression on me. I just put them on the watch list, and they get visits not only from beat cops but also from detectives,” she says at the beginning of her speech.```


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Deleted User#0000
Oh well, we'll see if it happens again when Trump wins in 2020


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
fox news did not have to connect trump to fascism


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
exactly 10 words


[07-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
no gymnastics


[07-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
no paragraphs trying to twist words around


[07-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
very simple and to the point


[07-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
can you do the same?


[07-Sep-19 09:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7435529/A-AP-Rockys-Swedish-lawyer-shot-head-chest-leaves-apartment-Stockholm.html

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A$AP Rocky's Swedish lawyer is 'shot in the head and chest'
Henrik Olsson Lilja was leaving his apartment building in downtown Stockholm shortly before nine this morning when a gunman approached and shot him.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/09/06/15/18155444-0-image-a-279_1567778862836.jpg


[07-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
>taking Fox news as a legitimate news source


[07-Sep-19 09:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lel


[07-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
did he died?


[07-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
no


[07-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49616941

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49616941
ASAP Rocky’s Swedish lawyer shot in Stockholm
Henrik Olsson Lilja is reportedly shot in the head and chest, leaving him in a serious condition.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/C476/production/_108649205_gettyimages-1153848687-594x594.jpg


[07-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
he called the police himself


[07-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
apparently there were 2 people involved, one he was wrestling with and the other who shot him


[07-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
the one who shot him escaped, the one who he was wrestling with was arrested


[07-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Mr Lilja was shot in the head and chest at his block of flats and then called the police himself with a neighbour's phone`


[07-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Mikey#7286
Holy fuck


[07-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I'd've asked the neighbour to call for me...


[07-Sep-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
@Deleted User here you go https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/614203037556408360/1566502981684.png

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[07-Sep-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
now go argue your point to death somewhere else


[07-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Deleted User#0000

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[07-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Deleted User#0000
I am, that's why I stopped arguing


[07-Sep-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The shitposting channel is elsewhere


[07-Sep-19 09:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Warren and Clinton talk behind the scenes as 2020 race intensifies https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-clinton-talk-behind-scenes-2020-race-intensifies-n1049701

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Warren and Clinton talk behind the scenes as 2020 race intensifies
Analysis: Neither camp wants to talk about it, but the two women have recently grown closer.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_36/3000391/190906-warren-clinton-al-1500_3ac1941e345d1b9d52602f1e2f215e90.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[07-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
why the fuck is clinton doing the nazi salute


[07-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Her arm is pointing downwards


[07-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, the angle makes it look really bad though

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[07-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The editor knew exactly what they were doing when they chose this photo


[07-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it was on purpose


[07-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd have hundreds from the event, probably over a dozen from just her waving


[07-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
even taking into consideration the angle, it's still only like 10 degrees off from being a nazi salute though


[07-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whoever ran with it wants Warren to lose


[07-Sep-19 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Nazi salute" in waving is the equivalent of "bedroom eyes" when blinking


[07-Sep-19 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
‪https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/daily-beast-trumpworld-anxiety-grows-over-a-rising-elizabeth-warren-68298309829‬


[07-Sep-19 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Given enough stills of the animated action you'll always find a few just right to give it an entirely wrong interpretation


[07-Sep-19 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Sieg heil


[07-Sep-19 09:23 PM] illumnious#7938
@Crow she did it on purpose


[07-Sep-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
that article is a 404


[07-Sep-19 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remove the garbage after the numbers


[07-Sep-19 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For some reason "%E2%80%AC


[07-Sep-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton isn't a nazi


[07-Sep-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton is a neoliberal


[07-Sep-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
been there done that


[07-Sep-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I did that, it's still 404ing for some reason


[07-Sep-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton isn't even an ess jay dubya candidate like nooby seems to think


[07-Sep-19 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well it worked for me :shrugpony:


[07-Sep-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
literally just straight neolib


[07-Sep-19 09:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmdkN6MOwU

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Honest Government Ad | We're F**ked
The Government made an ad about climate change as we head into the third decade of the 21st century, and it’s surprisingly honest and informative. - Global C...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cOmdkN6MOwU/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Sep-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
finally working


[07-Sep-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
arctic circle is on fire


[07-Sep-19 09:29 PM] nooby#9263
@byte[]  I never said she was an SJW candidate. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said people were done with SJWism and that's part of the reason Trump was elected.


[07-Sep-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
I never said anything


[07-Sep-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[07-Sep-19 09:29 PM] nooby#9263
Wtf


[07-Sep-19 09:30 PM] nooby#9263
Sorry


[07-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Will editing in highlights into old comments actually ping/highlight that person?


[07-Sep-19 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[07-Sep-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-now-operating-advanced-centrifuges-in-breach-of-nuclear-pact/2019/09/07/68ae6988-d0ae-11e9-a620-0a91656d7db6_story.html


[07-Sep-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
> Iran has activated a chain of advanced centrifuges to speed up uranium enrichment in defiance of a 2015 nuclear accord, a senior Iranian official said Saturday, raising the stakes for European powers struggling to prevent the deal’s collapse.


[07-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
> The correct headline is..
> Iran now operating advanced centrifuges in response  to  the US 'breach of nuclear pact.


[07-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Mikey#7286
Hilary isn't an SJW


[07-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Mikey#7286
She's a corrupt POS


[07-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/walmart-open-carry-ban-dmitriy-andreychenko.html

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The Guy Who Open-Carried an Assault Rifle Into Walmart After El Pa...
Activists and Democrats have not made the case against publicly brandishing semi-automatic weapons nearly as persuasively as Dmitriy Andreychenko did.
https://compote.slate.com/images/4c248c29-33c7-4afa-9454-0d32b12fd3d5.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=1560x1040&offset=0x0


[07-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
> The Guy Who Open-Carried an Assault Rifle Into Walmart After El Paso Is America’s Best Gun Control Activist


[07-Sep-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
imagine being so selfless as to risk serious charges to show how ridiculous gun culture is


[07-Sep-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How can Iran be breach of an agreement the US already broke apart


[07-Sep-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's why I linked the comment


[07-Sep-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
multiple comments mentioning the ridiculousness of saying that iran is breaching the treaty when it was breached by another party first


[07-Sep-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
once a treaty is breached, it might as well not exist anymore


[07-Sep-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
but they're still going on like it's still in effect


[07-Sep-19 09:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Just another slimy politician in the pockets of big business


[07-Sep-19 09:47 PM] nooby#9263
That's not an assault rifle. It's an AR-15. Doing that was a dumb idea and quite disrespectful but the headline could be loaded with more buzzwords if it tried.


[07-Sep-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
... an AR-15 is an assault rifle


[07-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Assault rifles are automatic


[07-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
actually not, my bad


[07-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
assault rifles must specifically have a selector for full auto or semi-automatic


[07-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
so it's all but an assault rifle


[07-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
because it has every other characteristic of an assault rifle besides full auto


[07-Sep-19 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
A AR15 is an assault-style semi-automatic rifle that is assault-style based on appearance. But fire mode is modifiable with a rubber band.


[07-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
I'll just call them assault rifles*


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
the asterisk being that they're missing full auto


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
gun what made for killing lots of people


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] nooby#9263
AR stands for ArmaLite. It's in a class called "modern sporting rifles".


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Mikey#7286
Assault rifle isn't a real name


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
yes it is


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Mikey#7286
No


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
it's defined by the US army


[07-Sep-19 09:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8wgrZ6t5BA

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[07-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Mikey#7286
No they don't


[07-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
the most effective killing force in the history of the human species


[07-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is useless pedantry


[07-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://web.archive.org/web/20190904213732if_/http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/fstcp67.jpg

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[07-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
>  It is Army intelligence document FSTC-CW-07-03-70 from November 1970, and was also published in later editions. The book is "Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide - Eurasian Communist Countries", written by Harold E. Johnson. It was prepared by what at the time was the U.S. Army Foreign Science and Technology Center of the Army Material Command.


[07-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Ok I was wrong


[07-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Mikey#7286
I admit my mistake


[07-Sep-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
ArmaLite says: Fire your boss.


[07-Sep-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
:twismug:


[07-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
basically, assault rifles are specifically designed to deliver accurate full auto fire to long distances


[07-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
like the effective full auto range of the ak-47 is apparently 300 meters, while its maximum effective range is 400 meters


[07-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
so semi-auto is accurate to about 100 meters further out than full auto


[07-Sep-19 10:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@Crow Production comes waste. And that will only expand as the population continues to grow, regardless.


[07-Sep-19 10:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This planet is finite


[07-Sep-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
population trends are pointing towards a decrease in human population by 2100, humans aren't an infinitely growing species


[07-Sep-19 10:20 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Predictions


[07-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
predictions based on current data


[07-Sep-19 10:21 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This world is only big enough...


[07-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
the world is big enough for more than twice the current human population


[07-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
which we won't even reach


[07-Sep-19 10:21 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There will be a breaking point


[07-Sep-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
but like I said before, your solution of killing people to fix the planet is the faster, easier solution to the current pollution problems


[07-Sep-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
be careful of graphs


[07-Sep-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
make sure that if you are looking at a displacement graph, that you also get information about the derivative graph


[07-Sep-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
the derivative of population is population growth


[07-Sep-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/460336-here-are-the-gun-policies-for-americas-largest-retailers

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Here are the gun policies for America's largest retailers
America’s largest retailers are rethinking their gun policies following a spate of mass shootings this summer.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gunsopencarry_090619istock.jpg


[07-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
> Retailers that ban firearms
> Costco


[07-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
yep, best retail company


[07-Sep-19 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/business/mit-media-lab-jeffrey-epstein-joichi-ito.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/business/mit-media-lab-jeffrey-epstein-joichi-ito.html
Director of M.I.T.’s Media Lab Resigns After Outcry Over Jeffrey...
Joichi Ito had acknowledged taking $525,000 for the lab from Mr. Epstein, as well as more than $1 million for his own investment funds.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/08/business/08mit-print1/07mit-image1-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


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[08-Sep-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
This isn't an unpopular opinion


[08-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not Freud, go to therapy


[08-Sep-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
People think this


[08-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:galaxy_brain:


[08-Sep-19 02:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Half the people I know are like this


[08-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that you need to draw lines


[08-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
for gun classifications


[08-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting mad at people FOR drawing lines is fukking bullshit


[08-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The same people that get mad will be totally fine with all other arbitrary lines in law.


[08-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not buy into "no such thing as an assault rifle"


[08-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pointless distraction from the actual argument, *i.e.* that we need restrictions based on weapon type or capability.


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[08-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1170339940145610753

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https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1170339940145610753
WATCH: Laura Ingraham Drinks Steak Impaled With Lightbulbs and Plastic Straws to Own the Libs https://t.co/VVIU3tNR4e https://t.co/uxN4BbqLtI
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Twitter


[08-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't even


[08-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reality is giving me the primal urge to do like the apes in the Kongo movie


[08-Sep-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is something the prop guy probably thought was for a gag


[08-Sep-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine him screaming in horror when he saw her lips touch the straw since it's probably super unsanitary.


[08-Sep-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
ary


[08-Sep-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes, they want nothing more than spite.


[08-Sep-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
never mind any actual *reasons* these things are bad or such


[08-Sep-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
just, oh you think they're bad WELL I WILL EAT ONE HURR


[08-Sep-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like...okay, congrats proving my point that some people are wasteful idiots who need stuff forcibly taken away by legislation.


[08-Sep-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I eat a hamburger every day because the alternative is eating limp spinach and carrots


[08-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Paper straws work fine for anything that isn't a super thick drink


[08-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no excuse to use a plastic straw with a soda.


[08-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or even a thin milkshake


[08-Sep-19 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also incandescents are objectively shitty


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Paper straws suck and plastic straws are the tip of a consumer waste iceberg


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Paper straws work fine


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Target the big things


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you drinking


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] Midknight#9798
the straw thing is stupid. and incandescents are required in high heat environments. LEDs just can't hack it; I've seen them die in a few hours, much less than 50k-100k advertised life.


[08-Sep-19 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you are drinking a Slurpee they really work just the same


[08-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Midknight#9798
CFLs aren't even sold here anymore or I'd have them for enclosed fixtures.


[08-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What shitty LED dies in 5 hours


[08-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Midknight#9798
read what I said. They can't handle heat.


[08-Sep-19 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
uhh stop getting terrible mains-powered bulbs then


[08-Sep-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
if you want quality LED lighting for extreme environments you should retrofit your fixture to have a DC bus and a shared heatsink


[08-Sep-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
you'll also save a lot of money and energy doing this


[08-Sep-19 05:47 AM] Midknight#9798
When you volunteer to pay the cost of such a change, I'll go for it. Not everyone lives in a happy fantasy where they have unlimited money to do whatever project is "in" with the virtue-signalling crowd this week


[08-Sep-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
>you'll save a lot of money


[08-Sep-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
>VOLUNTEER FOR LARGE COST


[08-Sep-19 05:48 AM] Midknight#9798
lots of folks don't even own their homes and aren't allowed to make changes


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
what are you talking about, it's an aluminum plate for the heatsink and a DC power supply for the entire array


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't actually control what's going on, why would you be talking about changing it?


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or resisting a change to it?


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
the way LEDs in conventional fixtures currently work causes them to waste about 40% of their supply current from conversion losses


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be on the landlord to replace the shitty incandescents.


[08-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Midknight#9798
and an electrician to spend umpteen hours redoing and converting everything. probably charging double because it's summer and the attic is hazardously hot


[08-Sep-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
here's how you do it


[08-Sep-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
you get a cheap DC power supply


[08-Sep-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
The bus uses the existing wiring


[08-Sep-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the heatsink is an aluminum plate you can screw down


[08-Sep-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
then you mount the LEDs to the plate


[08-Sep-19 05:51 AM] Midknight#9798
> Step 1: be a rich fatcat
> Step 2: throw money at it
> Step 3: accuse poor people of not caring about the environment because they don't also throw money at their problems


[08-Sep-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
what the hell are you talking about


[08-Sep-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do know LEDs pay for themselves over time, right?


[08-Sep-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that their cost is going down...


[08-Sep-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, actually do the math sometime.


[08-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Compare the electricity cost and initial cost


[08-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bring everything to a present value


[08-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Midknight#9798
Electricity here is hydro and dirt cheap.


[08-Sep-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
or just plain add up the value over time, it's such that it won't matter the slight inaccuracy from forgetting about inflation etc.


[08-Sep-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Use regular fluorescent lighting if you truly don't give a damn


[08-Sep-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
not CFL, just tubes


[08-Sep-19 05:55 AM] Midknight#9798
CFLs were fine, as long as you didn't break one and suck in that fine mist of mercury particles :)

When they stopped selling CFLs and started pushing LEDs on everyone, that sucked. Because as I said, they are shit at handling heat. And suprise, houses built in the incandescent age have a lot of enclosed fixtures that don't dispose of heat and let it build up beyond what LEDs can handle, shortening their lifespans. they don't have long enough service lives to pay for their increased upfront cost.


[08-Sep-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
LED deployments suck right now because the way that they need to be powered requires high loss conversion in a conventional fixture


[08-Sep-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
CFLs and incandescent bulbs work just fine with regular mains AC (though they are brighter with DC)


[08-Sep-19 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
but LEDs require DC to prevent excessive flickering from the mains frequency and to actually get the advertised efficiency


[08-Sep-19 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
If they were set up in series with mains, yes, they would work, but they'd be half as bright as they should be because they're only doing half wave rectification in that setup


[08-Sep-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
the bases in commodity LED lightbulbs contain a full bridge rectifier to give you the full brightness with no flickering


[08-Sep-19 06:00 AM] Midknight#9798
technical buzzwords for why they suck doesn't change that they suck 🙂


[08-Sep-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Unfortunately that absolutely sucks cock


[08-Sep-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Because as mentioned above you lose lots of power in that rectification step


[08-Sep-19 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
The best way to deal with that is to amortize the loss over all the LEDs you want to power


[08-Sep-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is why you'd set up an array with a single DC power converter and the LEDs simply connected directly to it


[08-Sep-19 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
they're less expensive to buy in bulk deployments and consume way less power


[08-Sep-19 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
LEDs themselves are just chunks of silicon and are not inherently bad at dealing with heat


[08-Sep-19 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
high power designs can easily reach 300°C


[08-Sep-19 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
and continue working


[08-Sep-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
For an enclosed fixture, it would help to buy something actually rated for being an enclosed fixture.


[08-Sep-19 06:05 AM] Midknight#9798
still not hearing the part where you agree to subsidize the up front cost of acquiring and installing this new equipment and fixtures for folks that have to stick to a tight budget just to keep their kids from going hungry. just because a thing is possible doesn't make it feasible for the majority to switch to.


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
what does that have to do with it


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not telling you why you should switch everything immediately


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] Midknight#9798
and @Nebbie  the LED bulbs I have supposedly *are* rated for enclosed fixtures, but...well, the longest one lasted was a week. Luckily the store has a good return policy on crap that don't work as advertised 😛


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
If you have an extensive CFL deployment just use LED to replace them as they die


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
b-but surely the gov't must be ABOUT TO PUNISH ME for not SWITCHING IMMEDIATELY etc. etc.


[08-Sep-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm telling you that LEDs suck for various reasons


[08-Sep-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and that those reasons are not necessarily reasons to not use the new tech


[08-Sep-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
something something liberal authoritarianism will kill me by forcing technological progress something something.


[08-Sep-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
There are also certain reasons you might not want to switch


[08-Sep-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
CFLs are more efficient than LEDs in the yellow wavelengths


[08-Sep-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but considerably less in the blues


[08-Sep-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Also, low pressure sodium is _stupid_ efficient for street lighting


[08-Sep-19 06:11 AM] Midknight#9798
honestly we could do with less of that if we're really concerned about energy use. Light pollution has its own issues after all 😛


[08-Sep-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
just put the lighting in fixtures that doesn't allow it to bleed up


[08-Sep-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
then you eliminate the vast majority of it


[08-Sep-19 06:11 AM] Midknight#9798
light doesn't work that way lol


[08-Sep-19 06:11 AM] Midknight#9798
it bounces.


[08-Sep-19 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean your fixture should allow emission rays to go up into the sky


[08-Sep-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
most sky glow comes from improperly shielded street lamps and upward facing lights


[08-Sep-19 06:15 AM] Midknight#9798
and skyscrapers that leave the room lights on all night for whatever reason. *~glares south at Portland~*


[08-Sep-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
some upward facing lights are necessary to prevent aircraft collisions


[08-Sep-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
they should be red


[08-Sep-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
in practice they already are


[08-Sep-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
red is attenuated the most and does not contribute to sky glow


[08-Sep-19 06:22 AM] Midknight#9798
still waiting for a plane to crash into the fourth AM radio tower near my neighborhood. only three of the four have the red warning lights


[08-Sep-19 06:22 AM] Midknight#9798
alas, they stay clear enough of the other three to miss the fourth


[08-Sep-19 05:58 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
How is the trolley secured to the tracks though?
And if the trolley goes through the loop, what about the passengers on board? Will they be secured to their seats?


[08-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The passengers will die in a horrific collision with one of two large structures resembling an A and a B regardless of what you do.


[08-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The collision with B gets you more style points.

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[08-Sep-19 07:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/australian-man-dies-swimming-grand-canyon-n1050381

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Australian man dies swimming the Grand Canyon
The man, 77, was swimming in the Colorado River around Deer Creek Falls, where park rangers were unable to resuscitate him after he was rescued from the water.
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[08-Sep-19 07:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
There's *water* in the canyon?


[08-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, that's how canyons are made...

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[08-Sep-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's called the Colorado River, Maru


[08-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/460401-noaa-staff-was-warned-against-providing-opinion-about-dorian-after

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NOAA staff was warned against providing 'opinion' about Dorian aft...
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reportedly warned its staff against providing information beyond official forecasts just hours after President Trump claimed in a tweet that Alabama could be impacted by&nb
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_hurricane_090419getty.jpg


[08-Sep-19 08:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Well yeah but... okay never mind... 😶


[08-Sep-19 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Sep-19 08:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That chainsaw always gets me


[08-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[08-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Life imitates art.


[08-Sep-19 09:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/noaa-staff-warned-in-sept-1-directive-against-contradicting-trump/2019/09/07/12a52d1a-d18f-11e9-87fa-8501a456c003_story.html


[08-Sep-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-49624132

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Trump cancels secret US meeting with Taliban
The president was set to meet the militants at Camp David, a few days before the 9/11 anniversary.
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[08-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah I see he's using his time-tested diplomatic skills on the Taliban now


[08-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Well it's not exactly a secret meeting if we know about it :ponythinking:


[08-Sep-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah he leaked it himself ahead of time looking for praise and adoration


[08-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's the kind of stupid I expect.


[08-Sep-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead what he got was backlash from 9/11 first responders and such


[08-Sep-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was so he had a talking point for next year


[08-Sep-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's no "I killed bin Laden."


[08-Sep-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially when you're arguing you already ended Islamist terrorism.


[09-Sep-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Sep-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives think liberals emigrate from blue states to turn red states purple


[09-Sep-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[09-Sep-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Also that they're moving because their policies "destroyed the economy"


[09-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals emigrate for lower cost-of-living and then proceed to bring all their STEM education and slowly gentrify the area.


[09-Sep-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
That's the curse of neoliberalism


[09-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, the real curse is that people don't emigrate evenly


[09-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they cluster into large urban areas


[09-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the ones that already hav all that sweet cash


[09-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Houston will grow two sizes larger while Ft. Worth dies


[09-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I swear, half of the photos taken from american highways feel like something out of a psychological horror movie


[09-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you gone on an American highway recently?


[09-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I did yesterday and I distinctly remember "Christ is the lord of this valley" in the middle of an indian reservation


[09-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
advertising a church


[09-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think europeans understand that "that" area just outside a city with 4-lane highway and a McD's and Taco Bell with a few random gas stations and liquor stores and not much else of note for a few miles except constant highway signs with nonsense is realy real


[09-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And churches, yes


[09-Sep-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think I've ever seen an ad for a church in all of Europe


[09-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of something just outside of it pointing out it's a tourist attraction


[09-Sep-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Church ads are everywhere here


[09-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe Poland or Hungary are different


[09-Sep-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I see recruitment ads chalked on the sidewalks at uni and it really pisses me off


[09-Sep-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Flyers taped to poles and pinned up on boards


[09-Sep-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're going through a "nuclear christian family" phase atm


[09-Sep-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I recently drove from Chicago to Michigan


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also saw some graffiti near Missoula


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"on a dare"


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All the billboards were for either alcohol-related things or Jesus


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus drank alcohol, it's in the bible


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone spraypainted "OBAMA WAS OKAY" on a cargo train platform's siding


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And you gotta get boozed to become fully christian


[09-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone must've put not in a ^


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then someone else changed it to notably


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most billboards in my town are for the local community college but it also has like 7 churches


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it reads OBAMA WAS [notably] OKAY


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus' blood was pure wine


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't let him take the wheel


[09-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How do people even have time for church


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even know, the parking lots are always empty


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the hell are services, anyway?


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churches in this state are for poor people


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence the one on the indian reservation


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, I bet some channels even work their schedules around when services are


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sunday mornings


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's intended to lure in people who would say their tribe is good


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saturday afternoons from what I gather as well


[09-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead say that GOD is good


[09-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Make sure Fox & Friends is around the time people come back from mass


[09-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they can be made to drop their native culture


[09-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's pretty awful


[09-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still hyped up on that Jesus Says We're the Chosen high


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember its


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
See, that's why Catholicism is better


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only JUST NOW does the Supreme Court think treaties with natives matter.


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cherokee do need their rep soon


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If we want to end it we can just kill the pope and cardinals and it all collapses


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're for sure not getting a voting rep


[09-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well no even though they should


[09-Sep-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Basically fuck indians


[09-Sep-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
~the US


[09-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27RtJp-rhHk

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[09-Sep-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that looks likea fun movie


[09-Sep-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/gerudoku/status/1169632726435209216?s=19

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[09-Sep-19 12:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What happened to the other mock religions? Invisible Pink Unicorn? Raptor Jesus? Flying Spaghetti Monster got a hold in some Nordic countries.


[09-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jedi


[09-Sep-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
good meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/620391134203609106/image0.png

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[09-Sep-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the Clintons, but no Trump


[09-Sep-19 01:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump was just there for the kids. they would not trust him to be in charge of anything.


[09-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/08/politics/andrew-yang-crowdsurfing-aapi-forum-trnd/index.html

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Andrew Yang is riding a wave of support. Literally.
The businessman turned 2020 Democratic presidential candidate rode a wave of support at a political event in California. Literally.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190908173540-andrew-yang-crowdsurfing-0908-super-tease.jpg


[09-Sep-19 01:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh yeah, and it looks like october's gonna be split


[09-Sep-19 01:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Steyer's in now


[09-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unfortunately.


[09-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we bully him like we did Schultz


[09-Sep-19 02:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I honestly don't mind it


[09-Sep-19 02:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe we'll get actually substantive debates in October


[09-Sep-19 02:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because they'll split it 6 and 5 I reckon


[09-Sep-19 02:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
maybe Gabbard can actually make October


[09-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe Biden will fall off a cliff and fukking die


[09-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People shitposting about Biden but like


[09-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Warren picks Clinton


[09-Sep-19 02:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I *really* hope Biden doesn't win


[09-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Sanders picks someone like idk, some boring Midwestern democrat that isn't Pete


[09-Sep-19 02:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why would Warren pick Clinton


[09-Sep-19 02:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
usually the VP tends to contrast the candidate


[09-Sep-19 02:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sanders picks Bob Avakian as his running mate and shit gets wild.


[09-Sep-19 02:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that would completely fuck over the Dems


[09-Sep-19 02:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
then the "Sanders is a Commie" accusation would actually hold water


[09-Sep-19 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Chairman Bob will lead us to a lasting democracy

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[09-Sep-19 02:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
I love how old Bob Avakian memes are in format.

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[09-Sep-19 02:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
tbh I'll be pulling for Yang to win lmao


[09-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/jeffrey-epstein-harvey-weinstein-attended-party-for-prince-andrews-daughter/

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Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein attended party for Prince Andrew...
It was the princess and the pedo. Jeffrey Epstein attended the 18th birthday of pal Prince Andrew’s daughter Princess Beatrice just days before he was arrested on child-prostitution charges i…
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[09-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Eight days after the party, Epstein was held on suspicion of soliciting young girls for prostitution at his Florida mansion.' according to The Sun...


[09-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So how much is it gonna take before Prince Andrew is no longer a prince or Duke of York?


[09-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Live footage of him fucking a 9yo on 3 different cameras in broad daylight in the middle of london


[09-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoWX9QZdBs

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The Thinkery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoWX9QZdBs
Brexit Hangs by a Thread
Parliament has betrayed the country to Europe. Boris now leads a minority government. We are in trouble. Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/prof...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nIoWX9QZdBs/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brussels runs the UK better than the UK does.


[09-Sep-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
this is a pro-brexit video


[09-Sep-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
but I don't understand why anyone would still be pro-brexit


[09-Sep-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
good luck fucking over your country, hope it goes well


[09-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Out of the irrational idea that the EU makes the UK citizenry enslaved to some nondemocratic leadership unlike the UK parliament etc.


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
also immigrants


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire idea is like


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
British Empire still around


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Irish subservient


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The UK without the EU is Airstrip One


[09-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indians don't get to visit the UK, but English can visit Indians


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has alluded to this before


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
same for investment etc.


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is that in every single country relationship


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the UK is on top


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
one-sided deals everywhere


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All these people who complain that foreign investment is a thing


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't call yourself a capitalist


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause who would dare ask for equality against the British Empire?


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck is wrong with anglos


[09-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Empire.


[09-Sep-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
why are brits and americans so hell bent on fucking over literally everyone else


[09-Sep-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The British Empire got too much of the world


[09-Sep-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It went to its head.


[09-Sep-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 18th and 19th century were entirely dedicated to the idea that the best profit comes from enslaving brown people because brown people are inferior etc. etc.


[09-Sep-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
mostly in the states though


[09-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't actually the case, BUT


[09-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
To the white people, it seems like it is


[09-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they make more profit than the average person would in an equal sharing situation


[09-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(while the brown people would make far less, for a far lower average)


[09-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
essentially it's culturally-learned selfishness on a racial-national scale


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when that's no longer viable


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
people get mad


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly you hav to hav equal relationships where you aren't on top


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tfw there are people who get legitimately mad that tikka masala is considered Britain's national dish


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, you want fish and chips to be the national dish?


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly if you want Englishmen traveling India at their leisure untouchable by Indian cops


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need the reverse for Indians traveling England


[09-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fine, have fries invented by Belgians and a frying technique invented by Russian Jewish immigrants to England


[09-Sep-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody ever said nationalism was rational


[09-Sep-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly, the Irish aren't just slaves that you can use to make money


[09-Sep-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly, you need to actually let the small portion of their country you still own hav free travel with the rest.


[09-Sep-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
tikka masala is great, why would anyone not want it to be the national dish aside from purely "brown people made it" reasons


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's interesting, tikka masala and nachos have basically the same origin


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This ENRAGES the chav who heard his grandpa go on about the 50s


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Minority making white version of their food to placate drunk white people"


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I am definitely a "white people spicy" kind of person, doesn't mean it's not good


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Brits should get all the benefits of the EU


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sandwiches and rolled sushi also have similar origin stories of "Gambler wants to eat while playing, make convenient food"


[09-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
able to freely walk the EU as if they were EU citizens


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
able to go tariff-free etc.


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The EU shouldn't let people leave.


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
For EU citizens to be second-class in England


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not that anyone will try now.


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a fucking mess.


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, some EU researcher comes to England, they hav no rights, just work in the lab


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what England wants.


[09-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, for Ireland


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want no Irish to cross the border, ever


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Englishmen should be able to


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just plain want England on top


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what the entire vote was about


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why England voted yes and Scotland and Ireland voted no


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They knew what it meant.


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The UK" is a fukking lie.


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason Northern Ireland doesn't leave right now is it can't form its own gov't


[09-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland was barely placated into staying


[09-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody fukking cares about Wales


[09-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[09-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sheep do


[09-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact of the matter is, England wants to keep control of what little empire it has left


[09-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wants an asymmetric relationship


[09-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does not like being just another country in the mix.


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point all roads lead to dissolution of the UK I think.


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scotland would leave given another chance.


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland feels regretful and betrayed, Northern Ireland knows it's on the chopping blokk.


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9C54CBxVwU

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The Thinkery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9C54CBxVwU
The Brexit Battle Lines Are Being Drawn
The final arrangements of the pieces on the board before the war begins. See you tomorrow: https://www.facebook.com/events/2525424694354014/ Follow me on Bit...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R9C54CBxVwU/hqdefault.jpg


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
same idea


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland should be pushing for that second chance right now, but ultimately it's biding its time.


[09-Sep-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pro-Europe or Pro-England*


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
even the thumbnail is blatantantly nationalistic


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't even fukking pretend


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
look at that


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"young, middle-class internationalists"


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
that Scotland and Ireland wanted this


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they voted no by 60%


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"old, working-class nativists"


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
England voted yes by 60%


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
England slightly outvoted because of population


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the whole trikk of the "UK"


[09-Sep-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "core" parts of the "nation" are such that England slightly outvotes the rest


[09-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you won't ever see it try and do some shit where like the virgin islands get the same status as Northern Ireland


[09-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd put England out of the majority.


[09-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would mean the English would actually hav to accept cultures even slightly outside their own.


[09-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>English


[09-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Culture


[09-Sep-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
A culture composed of legalese, a bunch of stolen ideas, fart jokes, abstract humor, and various mishmashes.


[09-Sep-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and Burgundy passports


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one fucking made them change their passport color lmao


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The things the English latch onto for their national identity are so minor and jumbled.


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but as Englishmen


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
they felt the need to switch


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
to bow down to their masters


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a fukking curse of english culture


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when there are no actual fukking rules, people act like there are


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
"It just isn't done" etc.


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's about pretending you like your hosts and whatnot


[09-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine having a constitutional system with no written constitution


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
not saying a word against things


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the US had no constitution


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stiff upper lip.


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know Its, the really crazy part is


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the fifth amendment


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
REALLY BIG DEAL


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The British never felt the need to write it down


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
because "it just is common sense" etc.


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
The fourth and the fifth and the sixth are like


[09-Sep-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Saying really similar things but it's all a jumble of words


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, it wasn't common sense for FOUR HUNDRED YEARS PRIOR


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the fact of the matter is


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a very British tradition


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
to create important legal rights


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not actually set them in stone


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
just kinda assume they exist and move on with your life


[09-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then at the drop of a hat your nation descends into human rights abuses.


[09-Sep-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm a little suspicious of the support and traction Yang has gotten because the form it's come in has thrown up some red flags for me. Like, it's awfully meme culture. You'll hear about "yang gang" before you hear anything about his policies. Former Trump supporters are flipping directly to this underdog. I couldn't tell you what the reason is behind that, either. I don't have a problem with Yang directly, but if it's Russia's intent to divide the left, I'd wager they've got more than a few bots propping him up the way they did for Jill Stein


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it's just overwhelmingly millenials


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and gen z


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if you look at his polling, that's deadass where all his support comes from


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which would explain the "meme culture" bit


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, I doubt he's got bots


[09-Sep-19 04:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least not on his twitter


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, but that's what Buttigieg has going for him, too, but when people talk about mayor pete they're talking about the guy's accomplishments


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and no, I didn't mean like artifically boosting his followers on Twitter


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Russia really was dividing the left they'd boost Booker, Wing.


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yang isn't very controversial.


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booker is blakk.


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also, a big reason a lot of people are backing Yang is precisely because the fucker's got policy upon policy


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
From a racial US perspective


[09-Sep-19 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and there is a lot of discussion about it


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asians are honorary whites


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
"model minorities"


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the US gov't wanted us to be buddy with Asia against communism


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakks are seen as subhuman


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Russia is trying to prop up Yang to split the left, they're retarded.


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booker is a far, far, far better wedge.


[09-Sep-19 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Anyone else would be a far better wedge


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Tulsi's already controversial as balls


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and people are all over her ass for supposedly being a "Russian bot"


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You don't need a wedge. You just need to keep people talking


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually you do need a wedge


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what they want.


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The fact that all his support is millenials while Biden's for boomers *IS* the wedge


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not want a civil discussion that leads to better policies.


[09-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to support both sides to create a bigger fight.


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia supported both "lock her up" and pro-hillary stuff at the same time


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's just, if Russia really wants to start shit, they'll make an unpopular guy suddenly shoot up in the polls


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or a controversial figure


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's ideal is Booker v. Biden


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
not Yang v. Warren v. Biden


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's what I'm kinda saying - yang came out of nowhere


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he doesn't stir controversy


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it's largely genuine support tbh


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he's not starting shit


[09-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yang isn't an oppositional candidate


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is the least likely to rouse hatred or love


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's just...that guy, in the corner


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
he talked the LEAST at the debates.


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Booker is a literal who


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even to keep the discussion going


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's a very poor choice


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Russia might also capitalize on Gabbard and Harris


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
(also, ANGRY thoughts keep discussion alive best)


[09-Sep-19 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Gabbard ripped into Harris on debate 2


[09-Sep-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
needless to say, the supporters of both are shitting on each other


[09-Sep-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, to mention pete buttigieg:


[09-Sep-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
didn't *he* come from nowhere too?


[09-Sep-19 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He did, and he isn't crowdsurfing


[09-Sep-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's a different form of enthusiasm, I'd say


[09-Sep-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yang isn't polling as high as Pete yet


[09-Sep-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's my entire point. I'm wary of this form of enthusiasm


[09-Sep-19 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what's suspicious about it


[09-Sep-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, you brought up that "people just seem to be shouting Yang Gang and meming"


[09-Sep-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's half true


[09-Sep-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
there's definitely talks of policy in the mix too


[09-Sep-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, come on, it's gen z


[09-Sep-19 04:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they're shitposters


[09-Sep-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suppose I'm suspicious of meme politics because right now the right are the kings of that domain


[09-Sep-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Apparently Yang can use it well


[09-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia would care way more about the Squad than anything


[09-Sep-19 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
despite being on the left


[09-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Problem is it turns out way more people agree with the Squad than you would expect.


[09-Sep-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
AOC is a prime example of the left being in touch with younger generations and using memes to her advantage


[09-Sep-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but she's *alienating* the right


[09-Sep-19 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
That's the ..... idea


[09-Sep-19 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That just means they don't like what she's saying


[09-Sep-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is why I'm wondering how the Trump->Yang flip is happening


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
She's not even alienating them that much


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Because some Trump voters are disillusioned with the establishment left and with Trump


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and saw someone that looked like they were talking sense


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Ocasio-Cortez is an important candidate because she's not a neoliberal


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's what I see a lot when I dive into Yang's Twitter


[09-Sep-19 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a lot of his supporters just like that he's being logical


[09-Sep-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives like neoliberalism, but actual liberals and the alt right alike fucking hate it


[09-Sep-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(ofc, I'm a little biased because I am *myself* pulling for Yang)


[09-Sep-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as I said, I'd support the guy too


[09-Sep-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just want to be wary of anything that could be exploited to divide the left. If you think Yang does not present a great opportunity for that, then fine. I'd do the same for any other candidate


[09-Sep-19 04:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
my biggest concern with him right now is that there seems to be some beef between Sanders and Yang supporters


[09-Sep-19 04:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but compared to the animosity Sanders supporters feel towards Biden, that's not significant


[09-Sep-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My biggest concern is always that Sanders supporters have oneitis


[09-Sep-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is my suspicion that the people coming to Yang from Trump might be the same folks that flipped from Sanders to Trump


[09-Sep-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if they won't support Warren do you really care about what Bernie is saying


[09-Sep-19 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's extremely likely.


[09-Sep-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's talk about something extremely unlikely for a moment, just as a thought experiment


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Say Trump either can't or won't be on the ballot at the last minute. What do the right do


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gaetz or Jordan.


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they'll probably take a #2


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're already the people lined up for 2024 anyway.


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They may even use Pence


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They wouldn't use Pence


[09-Sep-19 04:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why not


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'd use Gaetz or Jordan, or maybe if they are desperate, McConnell


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has no charisma


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, practically no one is currently running against the incumbent right now


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even the starbucks guy dropped out


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because people were mean to him online lol


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
which starbucks guy


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
schultz?


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[09-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[09-Sep-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wanted to be the moderate candidate


[09-Sep-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
he was a Dem


[09-Sep-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is already that


[09-Sep-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm starting to think that if Biden wins the nomination, we're boned no matter how the general election goes


[09-Sep-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you really think any red state voters would support Biden? I mean, I say he's the perfect conservative candidate, and satirically also note that he's trump lite when it comes to personal scandal


[09-Sep-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
pfft no


[09-Sep-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
even if he does win, all he'll do is make sure 2024 goes way red


[09-Sep-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if Biden does win the primary, it will be conservative vs "conservative" anyhow


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would win vs. Trump, and then we'd hav a conservative in the White House, yes.


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Scandal isn't scandal when it's the dude you like


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of a mega ultra fascist.


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
when it's the opponent, it should be exploited to hell


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Gillibrand was endlessly tailed by the right for something called "nxivm" or some shit


[09-Sep-19 04:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
completely unfounded but they wouldn't stop whining about it


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's biggest vulnerability is his age


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I miss the days when a candidate could drop out of the running because they did a silly yell once


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
lmao Dean


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
voters do not giv a shit how many women he raped to death using the skulls of their dogs


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
seriously


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
age isn't the major issue


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Bernie's older than him


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's cognitive faculties


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
age is a part of that, yes


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but Bernie's still sharp as a tack


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would be by far the oldest on ascending to presidency.


[09-Sep-19 04:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden, OTOH, seems to be losing it


[09-Sep-19 04:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie be like https://youtu.be/az75TZuy5aE

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[09-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately that's the only hope for a primary defeat


[09-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voters say that Warren is less likely to keel over


[09-Sep-19 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll take Warren and Sanders over Biden


[09-Sep-19 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, think about it - his health is failing, he's showing signs of dementia, he lied about his own son's death for political points. He's the perfect candidate to appeal to Trump's base


[09-Sep-19 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Once again Wing, Trump's base only likes Trump's lies


[09-Sep-19 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
when it's someone else lying, it's despicable


[09-Sep-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just laugh at the funni joek


[09-Sep-19 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
xd


[09-Sep-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
speaking of which, got more liberal boomer humor on tap here. gimme a sec


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Warren is I think a very likely tikket.


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ideally, Yang winning would be a best-case for me


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it is not realistic


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but it is what I would like


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://i.redd.it/iv92isfbrdl31.jpg

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[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden/Warren is pretty likely


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and it would sure as hell be pushed by the establishment


[09-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Warren will be sidelined in office


[09-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the hope will be Biden keels over


[09-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
After replacing RBG


[09-Sep-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll take that over Trump replacing RBG and then dying of hamberders


[09-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Republicans would see Warren's takeover as a reason to prevent any appointments)


[09-Sep-19 04:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the question is: whoever the winner, how are they going to deal with Trump's smearing


[09-Sep-19 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
complete restructuring of DOJ first and foremost


[09-Sep-19 04:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Dems are doing Trump's job for him with Biden


[09-Sep-19 04:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean the winner of the primary


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm still talking campaign for now


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If Sanders wins, "commie"


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the executive needs to be seriously trimmed


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Warren can take the heat from Trump pretty well, she's already got some wins under her belt


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
if Warren wins, "Pocahontas"


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and most of its powers handed to the judicial


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav entered a situation where there is way, way too much power in gov't agencies


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are commanded by the president and can ignore the law


[09-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
with virtually no chekks in place on them.


[09-Sep-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey speaking of the executive having powers that the judicial should have, let's talk about the OLC


[09-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
often while not understanding the laws they're supposed to enact


[09-Sep-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Trump did nothing but attack Benghazi and emails against Hillary and that worked


[09-Sep-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what's to say he wouldn't just use Pocahontas against Warren


[09-Sep-19 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and potentially win


[09-Sep-19 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(I like Warren, don't get me wrong; I'm just thinking of possible bumps)


[09-Sep-19 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's literally a body of law that has no public oversight housed entirely within the executive and it's affecting a lot of stuff. Most famously and recently is the Mueller investigation


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judicial branch needs to handle investigating


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't really understand quite the degree to which OLC opinions hold weight until a couple weeks ago


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
in its entirety


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the executive branch should only be for arresting people and shooting people


[09-Sep-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
turns out they're not just "memos," they're a lot more like supreme court opinions


[09-Sep-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what powers did the constitution give to the executive


[09-Sep-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well Trump says article 2 lets him do anything he wants


[09-Sep-19 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
my ass


[09-Sep-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he literally said this


[09-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Veto bills, appoint federal posts (agency heads, basically) and judges, negotiate on behalf of the US, grant pardons.


[09-Sep-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And Trump isn't even bothering to do half those things


[09-Sep-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh I mean sure he's kinda doing them, but his government is full of unfilled seats and he is not the negotiator he thinks he is


[09-Sep-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but he'll pre-emptively grant pardons and veto stuff


[09-Sep-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(if it ever got past McConnell, anyhow)


[09-Sep-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Section 1 
Clauses 1-5 = process of electing the president and his time of service
Clause 6: What if prez keels over
Clause 7: Dosh
Clause 8: Oath of office
Section 2
Clause 1: CoC of military, has cabinet, can pardon
Clause 2-3: Treaties and appointments
Section 3:
Clause 1: State of Union
2: Recommend shit


[09-Sep-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
woops meant to shift enter


[09-Sep-19 04:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
3: convene and adjourn congress
4: receive ambassadors
5: enforce the laws
6: Officer's commissions
Section 4: Getting the fucker out of office after he fucks up


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the enforcement of law that's the problem


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the president says since he controls law enforcement, he can choose to not enforce it against himself


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And use it against his enemies


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"This clause is meant to ensure that a law is faithfully executed by the president[35] even if he disagrees with the purpose of that law."


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
what a 180 on this clause


[09-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the fifth amendment is a mess


[09-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the *idea* of it is the gov't can't make you provide anything for your own prosecution


[09-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and once upon a time, all local law enforcement did was arrest you


[09-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it was taken for granted that the court wouldn't hav you testify about what you did


[09-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
now cops try to keep everything from even getting to trial


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they do the questioning, as part of the executive


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
On the pardoning part, he's pardoning people like Arpaio


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they force you to testify against yourself


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
not explicitly in the courtroom


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they record your statements to use against you


[09-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Miranda rights are a sham btw


[09-Sep-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of them is that once you are read them, unless you explicitly say "I wish to remain silent" or similar, you're presumed to waive them


[09-Sep-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
remaining silent is presumed as a waiver


[09-Sep-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
...a waiver of the right to remain silent.


[09-Sep-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[09-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the executive basically can do whatever, and then at the end of the day IF it gets to trial, a judge can finally actually make a decision


[09-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judiciary is gimped.


[09-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dekks are stakked by the executive before anything gets to trial


[09-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why it's such a miracle when SCOTUS actually comes out and says such and such is unconstitutional.


[09-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[09-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The executive has grown like crazy.


[09-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If there's one branch that should have "too much power" it should be the judiciary


[09-Sep-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Plea deals are insanity and should not be necessary for the functioning of the court system


[09-Sep-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
But there's no way we could sentence all those low level drug offenders ~~and black people~~ without them


[09-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be sentencing tons of low level drug offenders


[09-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
we need to reduce the number of things that are illegal.


[09-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Massively**.


[09-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law must cease to be something you break more than once a month, period.


[09-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
More enforcement isn't the answer.


[09-Sep-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Mandatory minimums aren't the answer


[09-Sep-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Drugs should not be "illegal" nor should a person be "illegal"


[09-Sep-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
But, we live in a society


[09-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know SCOTUS has decided, in separate cases


[09-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's unconstitutional to arrest people for having evidence of being addicted to drugs.


[09-Sep-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that it's constitutional to arrest people for being drunk in public.


[09-Sep-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, it's unconstitutional to punish people for being addicted, but constitutional to punish them for being homeless while they do normal things.


[09-Sep-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean that's pretty par for the course


[09-Sep-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the US has a long history of writings laws specifically to target poor people


[09-Sep-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
not that rich people don't get addicted to things, they just hide it better


[09-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is SCOTUS has created inconsistent standards


[09-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
repeatedly


[09-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to enforce societal biases


[09-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
These standards are then applied


[09-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a big fukking mess nobody can fix.


[09-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way to overrule SCOTUS is to create an amendment


[09-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the political establishment hates amendments.


[09-Sep-19 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
neoliberals hate amendments because it pisses off conservatives
conservatives hate amendments by definition


[09-Sep-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Sep-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fighter-jet-accidentally-fires-rocket-a-10c-thunderbolt-ii-fires-m-156-rocket-in-arizona/

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Air Force fighter jet accidentally fires rocket near Tucson
Air Force officials are investigating after an A-10C Thunderbolt II fighter jet on a training mission accidentally fired a rocket near Tucson
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/09/06/3a080c31-8ed7-4ce8-a101-ab08334f065f/thumbnail/1200x630/24c291584febc9c5728fdcb90f8f17ff/thunderbolt-ap-811408984956.jpg


[09-Sep-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
>They say there were no injuries, damage or fires from the *accidental launch* of the **white phosphorus projectile** in the Jackal Military Operations Area, which is about 60 miles northeast of Tucson. White phosphorus is used by the military in various types of ammunition to produce smoke for concealing troop movement and to identify targets.


[09-Sep-19 10:33 AM] ononim#8141
US is the empire of evil


[09-Sep-19 11:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Sep-19 11:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The VTuber of Chinese official news media changed her appearance under the order of the party.


[09-Sep-19 11:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The red scarf got censored for "unfitting a VTuber".

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[09-Sep-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
probably looked too similar to the japanese school uniform


[09-Sep-19 11:24 AM] ononim#8141
>The VTuber of Chinese official news media


[09-Sep-19 11:24 AM] ononim#8141

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[09-Sep-19 11:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I know this sounds ridiculous


[09-Sep-19 11:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But it just happened


[09-Sep-19 11:24 AM] ononim#8141
I hate this cyberpunk future


[09-Sep-19 11:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The "red scarf" is the simple of communism youth in China


[09-Sep-19 11:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But only primary school students will ware them


[09-Sep-19 11:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For teenagers, just too ugly


[09-Sep-19 01:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Big brain time in Norn Iron
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[09-Sep-19 04:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://pix11.com/2019/09/07/texas-man-smashes-broadways-famous-charging-bull-with-homemade-metal-banjo-saturday-police/?fbclid=IwAR0W9f7GuEUH2mL3jGD0yO496lh58s-VtANz4qS6xi2eTvi26ozzIxJ_6oE

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Texas man smashes Wall Street’s famous ‘Charging Bull’ with ...
BOWLING GREEN, Manhattan — A Texas man was arrested after allegedly using a metal banjo to smash the famous "Charging Bull" in Manhattan's Financial District, causing damage to the landmark, police said Saturday.

Tevon Varlick, of Dallas, made the banjo, police said.

Auth...
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[09-Sep-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh noo


[09-Sep-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh surprised the thing hasn't been viciously vandalized before now


[09-Sep-19 04:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm surprised this is the first time too


[09-Sep-19 04:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Sep-19 04:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Sep-19 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just realized, there's probably a cop drama/procedural show on something like TNT about ICE agents


[09-Sep-19 04:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[09-Sep-19 05:07 PM] ononim#8141
~~bit salty what the news about how US army has fucking WHITE PHOSPHORUS MISSLES on their aircrafts didn't generate any reaction~~


[09-Sep-19 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They never stopped using it, I didn't think it was a secret


[09-Sep-19 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just not meant to use it as a direct weapon


[09-Sep-19 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-chrissy-teigen-twitter-president-pussy-ass-bitch-wife-john-legend-a9097141.html

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Trump labelled 'p**** a** b****' by Chrissy Teigen after he refers...
Hashtag insulting the US president becomes highest trending in US
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[09-Sep-19 05:55 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Discord interprets the asterisks as markup so the embedded title is hilariously fucked


[09-Sep-19 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah lol


[09-Sep-19 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
pussy ass bitch


[09-Sep-19 05:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...Can we turn the hashtag into a hat? 🤔


[09-Sep-19 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/US_SpaceCom/status/1171085795622408192?s=19

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U.S. Space Command (@US_SpaceCom)
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[09-Sep-19 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God, at least it's not called Space Force


[09-Sep-19 06:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That Texas man were NCR soldier


[09-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Litrojia#0612
Space Command and Space Force are two separate things. Space Command existed before.


[09-Sep-19 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/09/758927743/sacklers-reject-demand-they-surrender-personal-wealth-to-settle-opioid-claims

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Sacklers Reject Demand That They Surrender Personal Wealth To Sett...
A group of state attorneys general negotiating with members of the Sackler family says they expect Purdue Pharma to file for bankruptcy "imminently," according to an email obtained by NPR.
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[09-Sep-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Sep-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
real tweet


[09-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
that tweet about bernie being forced to give up his birthday cake was deleted


[09-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[09-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich bitch couldn't handle people pointing out that the entire point of a birthday cake is to share.


[09-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
fuck, no one archived it either


[09-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1170781433188749313

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https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1170781433188749313
Who the fuck wants to eat a whole birthday cake? https://t.co/XhLnMIKHGd
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[09-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/fuctupmike/status/1170755175168057344


[09-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
wtf https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1170892327411433473

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Your mom's https://t.co/suIzLsdlO8
Likes
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[09-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
is this guy 50 or 5?


[09-Sep-19 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
big words from a bitch who deletes his tweets


[09-Sep-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/sh62cio5phl31.png

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[09-Sep-19 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
big thunk


[09-Sep-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet I bet they think the war was about states rights


[09-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
sherman didn't burn enough of the south


[09-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
have I mentioned that general sherman is my favorite tree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Sherman_(tree)

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General Sherman (tree)
General Sherman is a giant sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum) tree located in the Giant Forest of Sequoia National Park in Tulare County, in the U.S. state of California. By volume, it is the largest known living single-stem tree on Earth.While the General Sherman is the larg...
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[09-Sep-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta love a good seaside vacation, Sherman had the right idea.


[09-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Atlantic Ocean: come over my parents aren't home


[09-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sherman: can't I'm in Atlanta


[09-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Atlantic Ocean: I'm wet


[09-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sherman: https://youtu.be/19Os804CPig

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Kee Gee Bee
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While we were marching through georgia - earrape
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[09-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://web.archive.org/web/20190908201207/https:/twitter.com/fuctupmike/status/1170755175168057344

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Mike on Twitter
“Bernie Sanders should be forced to give away 90% of his birthday cake. #HappyBirthdayBernie”
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[09-Sep-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
> The year is 3019. The British President, as every year, comes to Brussels and begs for the extension of the Brexit deadline. The origin and meaning of this strange ceremony is lost in the mists of time, but it draws many tourists to the city.


[09-Sep-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Galactic Federation was recently criticized for trying to end the practice as part of its push to remove wasteful traditions.


[09-Sep-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Sep-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Society a we in live


[09-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9891426/vladimir-putin-party-loses-third-of-seats-moscow-election/

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Putin's party suffers election bloodbath as protests crackdown bac...
VLADIMIR Putin’s United Russia party has sensationally lost a THIRD of its seats in Moscow in a local election bloodbath. Sunday’s poll was one of the most closely watched regional elections in yea…
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[09-Sep-19 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/lAfUj9V.jpg

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This is a real tweet
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[09-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
I'd be surprised if I live long enough to see female nipples and multiple bloody gunshot wounds be considered the same level of explicitness


[09-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
it'll happen, but likely a few years or maybe a decade after I die


[09-Sep-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/camp-david-donald-trump-mike-pence-taliban/index.html

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Trump overruled advisers, VP on Taliban Camp David meeting
The pine-shaded cabins at Camp David have hosted secret peace summits between Middle Eastern leaders and high-stakes gatherings of major heads of state. For President Donald Trump, the mountainside retreat offered visions of another diplomatic coup: clandestine talks between ...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190909124422-02-donald-trump-0904-super-tease.jpg


[09-Sep-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
because of course he did


[09-Sep-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
he's a near-retarded manchild who abuses his power like a particularly violent bully


[09-Sep-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ad86965b674241b78a2b9284ad521f3e

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Trump slams John Legend for not helping with justice reform
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is criticizing musician John Legend for not playing a role in passing criminal justice reform following a TV special on the subject in which the star...
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[09-Sep-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he knows john legend isnt a legislator right?


[09-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-ghani/afghan-president-renews-calls-for-peace-demands-ceasefire-idUSKCN1VU1QW

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Afghan president renews calls for peace, demands ceasefire
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani made a renewed call for peace on Monday but insist...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190909&t=2&i=1427996899&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF881DX


[09-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
afghan president right now: "god damn why did we let these western monkeys into our country again"


[09-Sep-19 09:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
To put you in power.


[09-Sep-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
"oh, right"


[09-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
> Ghani, who was sidelined from months of negotiations between U.S. officials and Taliban representatives, had been deeply suspicious of the talks, which sought to agree a timetable for a withdrawal of thousands of U.S. troops.


[09-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
so much for that "power"


[09-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
he wasn't even a blip on the map for these "talks"


[09-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Mikey#7286
I'm surprised no one responded to the link I posted


[09-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
it's the sun


[09-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
was gonna link one from another site


[09-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/RGRy6OU.jpg

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Difference in reporting events: British Sun vs Scottish Sun
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[09-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
this is the sun, btw


[09-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
british isles tabloid shit


[09-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That eyeball hanging loose is such that I would consider not posting it on Discord for TOS reasons


[09-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That definitely is what I would expect in PG-13


[09-Sep-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you know, gotta shame the MPAA as being liberal


[09-Sep-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
@Mikey lost to who


[09-Sep-19 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
I assure you this is not a loss to him


[09-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[09-Sep-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
Even without taking in the account how legasative (or how it spelled) branch of gov is useless here, I gurantee all "opposition" parties what are in the pairlament are nothing more than court jesters


[09-Sep-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
what ARE rus gov establishment


[09-Sep-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e7a4480d33ce4040b59bd48d4b832c05

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NOAA scientist: agency likely broke science integrity rules
HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (AP) — The acting chief scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said his agency likely violated its scientific integrity rules last week when it publicly...
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[09-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
trump is the epitome of whatever the opposite of "integrity" is


[09-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
he's like an integrity black hole, any shred of integrity that gets too close to him is sucked up and forever lost


[09-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Mikey#7286
So basically Putin will be president until he dies


[09-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[09-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
did someone say... revolution?


[09-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The real opposition was banned and the turnout was shit


[09-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/09/texas-attorney-general-leads-google-antitrust-probe.html

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Google faces a new antitrust probe by 50 attorneys general
The news follows the announcement of a joint state Facebook probe led by the attorney general of New York.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105430033-1568054537671pichai.jpg?v=1568054563


[09-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
wow, all 50 state AGs are on board with this


[09-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
texas is leading the google investigation, new york is leading the facebook investigation


[09-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
who's ready for a billion new search engines to pop onto the internet after google is busted up


[09-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
and a billion more facebooks


[09-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Man


[09-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Russia sucks


[09-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
why do you think anyone with a brain immediately flees overseas for studies


[09-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
as soon as they're old enough


[09-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
it's starting to happen in the US too, though that's mainly just because of how stupidly expensive it is


[09-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/donald-trump-not-well/597640/

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Trump Is Not Well
Accepting the reality about the president’s disordered personality is important—even essential.
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[09-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
funny thing about this is that I heard rush limbaugh say "trump's.... eccentric personality" a few days ago


[09-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
like you could hear the pause in his voice


[09-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
like he was trying to come up with the best way to say "fractured" without actually saying it


[09-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
I meant a few days ago lmao


[09-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
changed it from a few years


[09-Sep-19 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
> I wasn’t shy about making the same case publicly. During a July 14, 2016, appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, for example, I responded to a pro-Trump caller who was upset that I opposed Trump despite my having been a Republican for my entire adult life and having served in the Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations and the George W. Bush White House.


[09-Sep-19 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
> “I don’t oppose Mr. Trump because I think he’s going to lose to Hillary Clinton,” I told Ben from Purcellville, Virginia. “I think he will, but as I said, he may well win. My opposition to him is based on something completely different, which is, first, I think he is temperamentally unfit to be president. 
> 
> I think he’s erratic, I think he’s unprincipled, I think he’s unstable, and I think that he has a personality disorder; I think he’s obsessive. And at the end of the day, having served in the White House for seven years in three administrations and worked for three presidents, one closely, and read a lot of history, I think the main requirement for president of the United States … is temperament, and disposition … whether you have wisdom and judgment and prudence.”


[09-Sep-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
it's kind of telling how many crazy people there are in the US who resonate with him


[09-Sep-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/09/jerry-falwell-liberty-university-loans-227914

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‘Someone’s Gotta Tell the Freakin’ Truth’: Jerry Falwell...
More than two dozen current and former Liberty University officials describe a culture of fear and self-dealing at the largest Christian college in the world.
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[09-Sep-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
someone's gotta tell the fucking truth


[09-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah yes, nothing like opening an article to a 2000x2000 photo of some guy


[09-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(after the obligatory GDPR popup)


[09-Sep-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
also "Liberty University" is such a fucking american thing to call a christian university


[09-Sep-19 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
especially when we all know there's no liberty, only gay sex


[09-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/underwear-blunder-stalls-trial-chinese-woman-accused-trespassing-mar-lago-n1051506

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Underwear blunder stalls trial of Chinese woman accused of trespas...
Yujing Zhang is acting as her own attorney during the federal trial on accusations she lied to a Secret Service agent and trespassed at President Donald Trump's Palm Beach club.
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[09-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
> Before the potential jurors were brought into the courtroom, Yujing Zhang told Judge Roy Altman that she was wearing brown jail garb instead of civilian clothing because she had not been provided any underwear. Defendants generally wear civilian clothing during trials to not prejudice jurors against them.


[09-Sep-19 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Zhang is acting as her own attorney during the federal trial, much to Altman's frustration. He again tried Monday to change the 33-year-old Shanghai consultant's mind as he did during every pretrial hearing since she fired her public defenders in June and urged her to let them try the case. When he demanded that she answer yes or no, she went into a long monologue in Mandarin. Altman cut her off before it could be translated and she finally said she didn't want them.


[09-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
seems like she's using her foreign language to stall the trial as much as possible


[09-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nice art skills


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, language or not


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
bringing someone in in prison garb is a big no-no


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
a big, big no-no


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not something you allow


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I know


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds like the authorities aren't interested in a fair trial


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and she's not interested in one either.


[09-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
the judge is apparently a trump apointee


[09-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
> Soon after, 60 potential jurors were brought into the courtroom and jury selection began. Several told Altman they have negative feelings about Trump, but Altman, a Trump appointee, assured them the president has no direct connection to the case. Broward County is a Democratic stronghold.


[10-Sep-19 01:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[10-Sep-19 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbLnnnQI0xE

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[10-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
yes, we know that neoliberalism is a disease


[10-Sep-19 02:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
California wants another round of celebrity governor. only for the party line to be pushed again and no problems solved.


[10-Sep-19 04:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170742727333568514?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170742727333568514?s=21
WE ARE BUILDING THE WALL... https://t.co/OQQaag2ZUW
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[10-Sep-19 04:09 AM] illumnious#7938
this is fine


[10-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
As fast as possible


[10-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
And as sloppy as possible


[10-Sep-19 04:10 AM] illumnious#7938
oh yes, as fast


[10-Sep-19 04:10 AM] illumnious#7938
and fucking sloppy


[10-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Mikey#7286
Just like all his businesses


[10-Sep-19 04:11 AM] illumnious#7938
and his speech


[10-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Yes


[10-Sep-19 04:11 AM] illumnious#7938
who the great name of fuck told tRump about Twitter?


[10-Sep-19 04:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170546650651271169?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170546650651271169?s=21
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[10-Sep-19 04:13 AM] Litrojia#0612
Twitter should shut down until the end of his presidency


[10-Sep-19 04:14 AM] illumnious#7938
it should


[10-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
Maybe longer than that, but it's definitely doing us more harm than good right now.


[10-Sep-19 04:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170089069105340416?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1170089069105340416?s=21
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[10-Sep-19 04:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/now1solar/status/1170439198110699520?s=21

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Eugene W (@NOW1SOLAR)
https://twitter.com/now1solar/status/1170439198110699520?s=21
@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/et9ifSvSWE
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[10-Sep-19 04:30 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49643840?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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North Korea 'willing to restart' US nuclear talks
Hours after the comments North Korea launched two short-range projectiles off its east coast.
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[10-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
"lame stream media"


[10-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh my god


[10-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
You can't get much more childish than that


[10-Sep-19 04:34 AM] illumnious#7938
good greif


[10-Sep-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1169815776733220866

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Whale Alert (@whale_alert)
https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1169815776733220866
🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨  94,504 #BTC (1,018,147,922 USD) transferred from unknown wallet to unknown wallet

Tx: https://t.co/VWb8slswa8
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[10-Sep-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
1 _billion_ dollars in bitcoin


[10-Sep-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hoooooooo boy


[10-Sep-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if I could do that at the bitcoin atm at my local gas station


[10-Sep-19 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Straight up, president should not be able to criticize the media unless the goal is improving it


[10-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
The fuck you even do with that much money


[10-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
The fuck you asking someone to do with that much coin


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assassination


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I WANT TO KNOW THIS DEAL


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sit on it


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Assasination


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wew


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder whose gonna die.


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably some Russians


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Interesting that they pay before the job is done


[10-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you know the job isn't done yet?


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean Bill Gates is probably the only good billionaire


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There could be twelve dead Russians we don't hear about for a month.


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But how much AIDS research can you find?


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People made fun of him for his condom venture


[10-Sep-19 05:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At least he's trying to be philanthropic


[10-Sep-19 05:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Most others are just sitting on their cash, presumably wanking to it


[10-Sep-19 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
I could write at length of how philanthropy - as a symptom - is a bad thing but it's 11:30. I just got home from work, and I want to go to bed but I'm taking a moment. So I won't.


[10-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
wow @illumnious, this account was suspended https://twitter.com/now1solar/status/1170439198110699520

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Twitter / Account Suspended
From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.
Twitter


[10-Sep-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
what was it?


[10-Sep-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bob Ross Alabama forecast


[10-Sep-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possible a bunch of Trump's posse got twitter to suspend the account somehow


[10-Sep-19 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see Trump and Kim are still doing the same routine


[10-Sep-19 10:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretend to be peaceful and cooperative, wait 1-2 months, pretend to be strongmen condemning the other side for being evil, wait 4-6 months, repeat


[10-Sep-19 10:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-49645508

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Taylor Swift 'tried to sue' over racist chatbot
The singer's legal team claimed the holocaust-denying AI's name implied a link with the singer.
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[10-Sep-19 10:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`"An email had just arrived from a Beverly Hills lawyer who introduced himself by telling me: 'We represent Taylor Swift, on whose behalf this is directed to you.'

"'The name Tay, as I'm sure you must know, is closely associated with our client'," he adds. "No, I actually didn't know, but the email nonetheless grabbed my attention."

He says the lawyer argued that the name Tay violated federal and state laws and "created a false and misleading association between the popular singer and our chatbot".`


[10-Sep-19 12:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Swift and her overzealous lawyers strike again.


[10-Sep-19 12:29 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
god swift is such a lol cow now


[10-Sep-19 02:35 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh lel sarah palin got divorced


[10-Sep-19 02:35 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
didnt even know she was still married or relavant


[10-Sep-19 05:32 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49655279

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Trump sacks national security adviser John Bolton
President Trump sacks John Bolton, saying he disagreed with many of the US national security adviser's suggestions
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[10-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[10-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bolton is one of the most neocon people around


[10-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
What kind of bootlikker is Trump gonna replace him with? His own son?


[10-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Bolton was a leader of fabricating evidence about Saddam having nukes


[10-Sep-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Neocon warhawk


[10-Sep-19 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
John "Genocide the Mayans" Bolton


[10-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Juan Boultonas, Conquistador


[10-Sep-19 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
John "Actually Arming Right Wing Terror Squads is Freedom" Bolton


[10-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/10/ms-monopoly-hasbro-brings-gender-pay-gap-debate-game-night/2201160001/

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Girl power: Hasbro brings gender pay gap debate to game night with...
Hasbro's new Ms. Monopoly brings the gender pay gap to game night and is the first game "where women make more than men."
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[10-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hasbro is basically that guy in the middle of a protest selling baseball bats to everyone


[10-Sep-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except then the bats break but too late sucker, money's mine now


[10-Sep-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59n99q/milo-yiannopoulos-says-hes-broke

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Milo Yiannopoulos Says He's Broke
“I can’t put food on the table this way.”
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[10-Sep-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
maybe he should find a job


[10-Sep-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like he told everyone else to do


[10-Sep-19 08:21 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Meanwhile, Netanyahu is actually being specific about plans to annex the West Bank. Frighteningly specific, just so he can get reelected. Goddamnit, Israel, can we not have a genocide from you in the next twenty years?


[10-Sep-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
too much to ask for


[10-Sep-19 09:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/fbi-trump-comey/597523/

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Trump Is Winning His War on the FBI
Within the bureau, there’s an asymmetry that even those who seek to play by the rules cannot ignore.
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[10-Sep-19 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/05/trump-administration-unveils-plan-revamp-housing-market/


[10-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49646879

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Iran's 'blue girl' dies after setting herself on fire
She was on trial for entering a football stadium disguised as a man - a punishable offence in Iran.
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[10-Sep-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1162844/chinese-scholars-claim-english-is-a-mandarin-dialect

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Chinese scholars claim English is a Chinese dialect
Chinese scholars from the World Civilization Research Association claim that some European languages are dialects of Mandarin.
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[10-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
gigathonk


[10-Sep-19 09:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49639222
May continues to surround herself with and support all types of absolute cunts even after losing position of PM.

20 punches. Very deserving of a knighthood.

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Boycott 'doesn't give a toss' about award critics
Theresa May's decision to knight the former cricketer is condemned by domestic abuse charities.
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[10-Sep-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
>that China article


[10-Sep-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
Sun Language Theory...


[10-Sep-19 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
**2!**


[10-Sep-19 09:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Sep-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah they believe that weird Russian theory that the ancient world didn't exist


[10-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Revisionist history is much easier when there's less history to revise.


[10-Sep-19 11:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://abcnews.go.com/US/illinois-man-smashed-head-bowling-ball-fighting-life/story?id=65463234

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Man smashed in head with bowling ball fighting for his life, suspe...
A 28-year-old Illinois man is in critical condition after he was struck in the head with a bowling ball during an altercation at a bowling alley last week.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/bowling-ball-ht-er-190908_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[10-Sep-19 11:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can understand English, but I can't understand most of the Chinese dialect except Henan dialect...


[10-Sep-19 11:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
When I went to the southern China, their dialect made me feel like I'm a foreigner.


[11-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't worry, the English get that inside of most of England, and that island is tiny


[11-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone from Oxford will not have a good time trying to understand a pure scouse


[11-Sep-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
The UK is only as large as the Mississippi River valley from the Dakotas to the Gulf, yet it contains more varieties of English than that region of America alone.


[11-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mostly because they'll be on the floor in a foetal position covering their head while being kicked by bright white "trainers", but also the dialect


[11-Sep-19 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm sure you could break this down even further:

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[11-Sep-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Source: https://www.anglotopia.net/british-identity/english-language/english-language-map-of-the-various-accents-in-the-british-isles-british-accent-map/

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English Language: Map of the Various Accents in the British Isles ...
Check out this really cool map that shows all the linguistic diversity around the British Isles. It’s a fantastic map of all the various British (and Irish) accents. Undoubtedly some may have been left off – but overall it’s a good summary! Which one is your favorite? S...
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[11-Sep-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I've heard London itself as having been described containing two to five unique dialects alone.


[11-Sep-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
But dialects like Cockney, and what defines who and what a Cockney are dying out.


[11-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I know Liverpool had two, mostly along economic lines


[11-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What people spoke in the bay and what they spoke in kenny was pretty distinct


[11-Sep-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vs this pretty rough map of dialects in America https://img.washingtonpost.com/pbox.php?url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/files/2013/12/diausa.gif&op=noop


[11-Sep-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I don't even know what "urban Chicago" is supposed to mean because it's only ever sounded the same to what I speak in Michigan


[11-Sep-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
I also swear I read or watched stuff about how there are communities that still retain entire chunks of vocabulary from the old Norse that settled their respective areas.


[11-Sep-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Sep-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Milkshakes


[11-Sep-19 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly byte, they're not white supremacists, they're young boys who the system failed, products of broken homes and overmedication, relentlessly bullied for their conservative opinions and denied a voice


[11-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
White supremacists are a liberal hoax spread by the mainstream media


[11-Sep-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dark Enlightenment and reading about it made me realize how delusional people blaming anything else are


[11-Sep-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610

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[11-Sep-19 02:32 AM] ononim#8141

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[11-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, even memes ignore Holland


[11-Sep-19 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
There's only two people there arms there :V


[11-Sep-19 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
And also from my expierence people talk about Netherlandian colonislaist ventures more than they do about Portugueuse one


[11-Sep-19 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
They fe dacto kick started trans atlantic slave trade but they were irrevalent even at the begining of 19th century so nobody cares


[11-Sep-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Britain owned half the world but Belgium is still the worst colonizer


[11-Sep-19 03:09 AM] ononim#8141
Man imagine being so fucking brutal at colonizing even other late 19th century white people thought "WTF"


[11-Sep-19 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
When people talk Japanese history the Dutch come up a lot after the Sengoku Jedai, since they were the only Euros allowed in Japan for a while since they didn't push Christianity. They just wanted weeb swag.


[11-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japanese wanted microscopes


[11-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hmmmmmmmm. The crucial thing to note here is the timestamp https://i.imgur.com/F1eBjHg.jpg

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Sputnik news after negatively commenting about Bolton for a while had a 2 page article written, edited and online 2 MINUTES after Trumps tweet. It’s since been updated to multiple pages.
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[11-Sep-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean I suppose this wouldn't be too dissimilar to tabloids having celebrity obituaries ready to go at a moment's notice, but even so, this is an impossible turnaround time


[11-Sep-19 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like even if the whole thing was written up as a prediction on 12 hours' notice, you'd at *least* need someone to proof the first stub that gets posted to make sure it's not wildly contradictory and then click "publish." In less time than half a commercial break. For a tweet that caught seemingly everyone by surprise.


[11-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do people act like a mouthpiece doing shady shit is odd?


[11-Sep-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In this case? It's because this mouthpiece happens to be directly run by the *kremlin*


[11-Sep-19 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
apologies for not making a point about sputnik news being an official government-run russian propaganda outlet, posting an article about something that the US president tweeted almost the instant he tweeted it


[11-Sep-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably had it prepared. Probably have an article ready for any major person's resignation.


[11-Sep-19 07:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not with the way they reported it


[11-Sep-19 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sure, they went on to add some detail, but from word one they're accurately characterizing the scenario and context


[11-Sep-19 07:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump is highly predictable, I'll give you that, but this is a bit of a stretch to make those kinds of adjustments in a couple seconds, don't you think?


[11-Sep-19 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I doubt that there's that much connection between the president and Russia


[11-Sep-19 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean they helped get him elected and messed with shit election and money wise but they don't choose the cast of Fox and Friends


[11-Sep-19 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ASegals/status/1171497897688363009

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9/11 turns 18 tomorrow so Libertarians will finally lose interest in it
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[11-Sep-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759333549/nra-sues-san-francisco-after-lawmakers-declare-it-a-terrorist-organization

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The pro-gun group says the city and county are trying to discriminate against people "based on the viewpoint of their political speech."
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[11-Sep-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[11-Sep-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
apparently my mom is tilted about this


[11-Sep-19 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
> The National Rifle Association is suing the city and county of San Francisco and its Board of Supervisors over a unanimous vote to designate the NRA a domestic terrorist organization. The pro-gun group says lawmakers are trying to discriminate against people "based on the viewpoint of their political speech."


[11-Sep-19 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
that's a hot take on the first amendment


[11-Sep-19 11:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't Bolton's "resignation" come at the same time as news broke that the US pulled out a top spy in Russia?


[11-Sep-19 11:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wouldn't be surprised if Trump called his buddy Putin to apologize and offer him a sacrifice


[11-Sep-19 12:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so how will trump embarrass us today


[11-Sep-19 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually there's something fishy about the breaking of that news, too. The extraction happened in 2017. The source of the story is the Trump administration itself. This agent has, for the better part of two years, been living in the US. And now details are coming out, details enough to let a hack journalist show up on *someone's* doorstep looking for the ex-spy? Enough details to paint a timeframe for Putin to realize exactly which official disappeared out from under his nose that day? I don't necessarily know if there's a grand conspiracy here, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone wants them epstein'd.


[11-Sep-19 03:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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In Greek mythology, centaurs represented barbarism and unbridled chaos.
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[11-Sep-19 03:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
His back is giving up after holding that gut up for so many years.


[11-Sep-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7c3af0e48dec4fe187d1fbce9b43eb3e

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GOP holds N Carolina House seat but shows frailty in suburbs
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Conservative Republican Dan Bishop won a special election for an open House seat in North Carolina, averting a demoralizing Democratic capture of a district the GOP has held...
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[11-Sep-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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NCAA urges California governor not to sign 'fair pay' bill
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — The NCAA Board of Governors wants California Gov. Gavin Newsom to reject a new attempt to pay college athletes. And it is prepared to take the fight to court if...
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[11-Sep-19 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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Judges rule Parliament suspension is unlawful
Scotland's highest court says Boris Johnson, in effect, misled the Queen over the move.
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[11-Sep-19 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
rip parliament


[11-Sep-19 07:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump administration plans to ban sale of flavored electronic cigarettes  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-meeting-address-vaping-crisis-n1052396

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Trump administration plans to ban sale of flavored electronic ciga...
The meeting comes as members of Congress and lawmakers are calling for strong action.
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[11-Sep-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
that's gonna piss off the libertarians


[11-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20851034/california-ab-5-workers-labor-unions

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Uber drivers’ win in California is a victory for workers everywhere
Millions of people have been working without basic labor protections.
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[11-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[11-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
> By making it hard for employers to misclassify employees as independent contractors, potentially millions of California workers who’ve been kept off payrolls will get basic labor rights for the first time, like overtime pay and unemployment benefits. This includes janitors, construction workers, security guards, and hotel housekeepers — and yes, this group also includes Uber and Lyft drivers.


[11-Sep-19 07:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
:blossomforth:


[11-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ha ha


[11-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
They just hire mexicans


[11-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I mean more mexicans


[11-Sep-19 08:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article234939812.html


[11-Sep-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: theodore roosevelt laid the foundations for unions in the US in order to stave off civil unrest that would lead to a strengthened socialist party


[11-Sep-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
basically, strong unions make it so that people don't have a reason to use more extreme methods of fixing the problems of capitalism


[11-Sep-19 08:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Until the unions became just that locust and Haymarket happens, and the Angel of Peace wields sticks of dynamite in either hand.


[11-Sep-19 08:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
VIVE THE RADICAL UNION


[11-Sep-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/business/economy/bonehead-trump-jay-powell.html

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Trump Calls for Fed’s ‘Boneheads’ to Slash Interest Rates Be...
President Trump urged Fed Chair Jerome H. Powell to cut borrowing costs below zero in Twitter posts hours before a key European Central Bank meeting.
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[11-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure the european economy is much more robust than the US economy atm


[11-Sep-19 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/unabanned/status/1171794187609657345?s=20

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mugrimm (@unabanned)
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Post 9/11 thread for people to post the wildest shit they remember from 01 to 06

I'll start:

People thought Osama had an entire mountain hollowed out that he was using as his base and that's why AQ was hard to find and that somehow a group of like 30 dudes arranged this.
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[11-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is this dwarf fortress in 3d?


[11-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
that one on the left isn't structurally possible


[11-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
the entire mountainside would collapse with such large amounts of matter removed


[11-Sep-19 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How do you remember your 9/11 back then?


[11-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
I was in third grade


[11-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
that's about all I remember


[11-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
I thought it was sad, but it was on the literal opposite end of the country in a city I've only ever heard of


[11-Sep-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
with no emotional connections at the time


[11-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember knowing it was muslim related while the news was still reporting it as a "small private propeller plane", before video came through


[11-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(there'd been a whole lot of palestinian suicide bombings that year)


[11-Sep-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/TTBHwcK

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[11-Sep-19 09:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump admin will deny temporary protected status to Bahamians who fled Hurricane Dorian https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-admin-will-deny-temporary-protected-status-bahamians-who-fled-n1052561

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U.S. will deny temporary protected status to people who fled Bahamas
The status would have let Bahamians work and live in the U.S. until it is deemed safe to return home.
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[11-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean BROWN PEOPLE were hurt? Too bad etc.


[11-Sep-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I swear, at some point Trump will see like, a country invade Haiti and go "so what, that's not America's problem!"


[11-Sep-19 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
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Pewdiepie funny moments
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[11-Sep-19 09:44 PM] ononim#8141
For those who missed, Pewdiepie donated to ADL and a vocal portion of his fans are ... not pleased with it, to say the least


[11-Sep-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
oh, was gonna say that I don't get it


[11-Sep-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Wat


[11-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
> Please remember those who tried to block the 9/11 first responders bill


[11-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
#MoscowMitch


[11-Sep-19 10:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9PYWHymajk

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Cannibal Climate Change!
Technically correct: http://archive.is/zbp83 Website: https://tarlwarwick.net Merch: https://tarlwarwick.net/collections/all Support via donation: Patreon: h...
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[11-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-a-swedish-scientist-propose-cannibalism-to-fight-climate-change/

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Did a Swedish Scientist Propose Cannibalism to Fight Climate Change?
Cannibalism can't "combat" climate change, so why are so many outlets suggesting otherwise?
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[11-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
the fucking "scientist" who said that


[11-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
isn't even a scientist


[11-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
he's a marketing professor


[11-Sep-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
and they're using a badly-worded translation to say that he's advocating for cannibalism to save the climate, when it's lab-grown meat that saves the climate


[11-Sep-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
he suggested that it would be possible to eat human meat from growing it in a lab, not eating dead people


[11-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
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Pepperidge Farm Remembers
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[11-Sep-19 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato


[11-Sep-19 10:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/ice-fails-redact-document-reveals-location-urban-warfare-training-facility-1458732?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=NewsweekFacebookSF

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ICE fails to properly redact document, reveals location of future ...
The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency has accidentally revealed the whereabouts of a future "state-of-the-art" training facility that will simulate homes in Chicago and Arizona.
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[11-Sep-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1171663086178185217

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GOD BLESS AMERICA! https://t.co/VklXvWggKJ
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[11-Sep-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
lol wtf, I clicked that link and I got an error saying that it was unable to start the application or something


[11-Sep-19 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
clicked it again and it opened in my browser properly


[11-Sep-19 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1171454338574639111

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BREAKING: JOHN BOLTON FIRED

Price of oil immediately dives.
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[11-Sep-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Omega thonk


[11-Sep-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[11-Sep-19 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[]
> Curséd Boomer content


[11-Sep-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s all connected!


[11-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Flavoured e-cigs: Banned


[11-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
.44 magnum: 10% discount with a rebate for a free box of ammo


[11-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
'murrica


[11-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you know that LAWN DARTS kill?


[11-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Children hav thin skulls


[11-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So as a result we shouldn't ban handguns because obviously they're meant for thikker skulls, more destructive power!


[11-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who would want to be missing out on the ability to kill not only a child but two more children behind them?


[11-Sep-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Sep-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-considers-monitoring-smartphones-103039095.html

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Trump administration considers monitoring smartphones of people wi...
The Trump administration is considering a proposal to combat mass shootings which suggests phones and smartwatches may be used to track people with mental health problems.The idea began with Bob Wright, a former NBC chairman and longtime Trump confidant, who first proposed cr...
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[11-Sep-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Unbelievable


[11-Sep-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hmmmm don't like that


[11-Sep-19 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Implying they don't do that to everyone already


[11-Sep-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kold.com/2019/09/08/north-alabama-school-removes-bathroom-stall-doors-combat-vaping/

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North Alabama school removes bathroom stall doors to combat vaping
Administrators say students at Wilson High School are breaking the rules by sneaking vapes into school.
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[11-Sep-19 11:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Isn't that, like, illegal


[11-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic


[11-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it is not.


[11-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stall doors are a custom, not a rule.


[11-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Legally you could just hav toilets against the wall.


[11-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Facing each other


[11-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Challenge shitting


[11-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arranged in a circle, physically welded together


[11-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
no legroom


[11-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's one toilet paper roll in the center, just out of reach.


[11-Sep-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alabama high schools: home of thw challenge shittings


[11-Sep-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a bonus, they'll probably pass a law saying that ever showing your genitals to a minor is instant sex offender registration, even if you're a minor, even in a bathroom


[11-Sep-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was that not already part of the vague sex offender rules?


[11-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It probably was, but it varies a ton by state


[11-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I know one really dumb state had a law recently where any touching of a child's butt would get you jailtime


[11-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
with absolutely no provision for normal interaction so like


[11-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
changing a diaper would be jailtime.


[11-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/04/federal-judge-arizonas-diaper-changing-child-molestation-law-is-unconstitutional.html

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Federal Judge Rules Arizona’s Diaper Changing Child Molestation ...
Last September, the Arizona Supreme Court issued a stunning decision interpreting the state’s child molestation law to criminalize any contact between...
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[11-Sep-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, that disproved my notion that sex offender laws couldnt get any dumber...


[11-Sep-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
See, it's because the legislators go off a checklist and the toucher's intent or "common sense" are discarded  :^)


[11-Sep-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it was arizona...


[11-Sep-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wow, so the mechanism there was, the law required the accused to prove it was innocent


[11-Sep-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
sounds familiar


[11-Sep-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Your honor, the accused raped this bABY when she changed his diaper!"


[11-Sep-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also how is removing stall doors going to stop vaping?


[11-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the earlier article, on the original ruling: 'Although the laws call such contact “child molestation” or “sexual abuse,” the statutes themselves do not require the “touching” to be sexual in nature. (No other state’s law excludes this element of improper sexual intent.)'


[11-Sep-19 11:57 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon kek


[11-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Completely ignoring the difference between innocent stuff and sexualization isn't a good idea, in general.


[11-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Assume all is sexualized, taking the role of pervert, and you can essentially justify going after anything.


[11-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
sounds familiar


[11-Sep-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putting your child on a bus full of other children is sexual abuse because bus orgies are super common!


[12-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a Puerto Rican family a while bakk who were doing some reenactments of their kid's first breastfeeding, and a DA tried to slam them. It was crazy.


[12-Sep-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, Peruvian.


[12-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
turns out that trying to stop the perverts hurts normal people way more


[12-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
because literally anything can be viewed with a perverted slant


[12-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that a dude gets off to crystals being injected into people's bloodstreams


[12-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://jonathanturley.org/2009/08/17/texas-officials-arrest-parents-and-take-away-their-children-for-taking-pictures-of-their-children-in-a-bathtub-and-breastfeeding/comment-page-1/

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Texas Officials Arrest Parents and Take Away Their Children for Ta...
I just came across this story from a few years ago that parallels some of our recent posts. Jacqueline Mercado, a 33-year-old Peruvian immigrant, and her boyfriend Johnny Fernandez simply wanted to…
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[12-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Turns out that going after only hard checkbox items instead of using context and intent harms normal people way more


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
and viewing everything from the angle of potential perversion is just as bad


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
churches have rallied against billboard ads because they showed little boys jumping on a bed, and the church thought "This is child porn"


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nah


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
`the law required the accused to prove it was innocent`


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
how is that constitutional?


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is absolutely not constitutional


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't


[12-Sep-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the onus is literally always on the prosecution to prove that the defendant is guilty


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The checkbox said "adult touching kids"


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why the law was thrown out.


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
yes, and the checkbox views all adult touching kids as perverted


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The onus has to be to prove that something's naughty.


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That mom did get her kids bakk btw


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
a while after the charges were dropped


[12-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a big damn mess.


[12-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
I remember reading a story about a couple that was forced to admit guilt in order to get their child back after an overzealous CPS took the kid because he told his teacher that his parents taught him about sex education by having sex


[12-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
apparently they sat him down in a corner and showed him everything


[12-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
which is basically how natural sex education would've happened thousands of years ago in a family tent


[12-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
granted, they wouldn't be specifically doing it to show the kid how to have sex


[12-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
they'd just learn via osmosis


[12-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That happened in Montana at some point recently


[12-Sep-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humans reproduce by budding!


[12-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna hav to find a source on it.


[12-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, I can't find it because it's just pulling up all the search results for how to teach children about sex education


[12-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's this, Crow, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-sex/couple-gets-probation-for-educational-sex-idUSN2036816420070321

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Couple gets probation for "educational" sex
A Rhode Island woman who routinely had sex with her boyfriend in front of her 9-...
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[12-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the same thing, but similar.


[12-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
no, that's what I was talking about


[12-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
I think that might actually be the one


[12-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
I remember it specifically mentioned that they didn't compel her to stay


[12-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
I found it a few years ago when I was searching around to see if showing children sex first hand could be an effective tool for teaching sex education


[12-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
and I found two or three articles about families having their children taken away by showing them sex


[12-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
one was showing their teenage daughter porn and was really creepy


[12-Sep-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
but there was this one which pissed me off because it was obviously not with the intent to abuse the child


[12-Sep-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can;t find anything about the church that complained to their city about that billboard of topless boys jumping on a mattress for being too perverted


[12-Sep-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may have been an annecdotal story i heard from soemone else and not an actual news source


[12-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see this as the closest I can find https://www.thejournal.ie/ride-me-all-day-ad-campaign-dropped-2096263-May2015/

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Bus company drops ad campaign that had topless woman with "Ride me...
The £3 promotion has caused some uproar.
https://img2.thejournal.ie/article/2096263/river/?height=400&version=2096291


[12-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naughty jokes now = sexism


[12-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would've doubled down and made a male version, in equal proportion.


[12-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people call it sexist to treat the genders equally, well, they're clearly crazy.


[12-Sep-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
I remember seeing a video that had a naked toddler running around in some european city, and some american was freaking out in the comments about it


[12-Sep-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
and the replies were basically "yeah, naked kids are a thing in europe"


[12-Sep-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
because nudity isn't inherently sexual


[12-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
and it feels like most of the world seems to disagree with me on that one simple fact


[12-Sep-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s very annoying that most people view nudity as inherently sexual...


[12-Sep-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in hot southern weather


[12-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the greeks called the egyptians naked savages because they went around wearing so little in the hot egyptian sun


[12-Sep-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess i'll overheat for the sake of decency


[12-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the ancient greeks put up colossal statues of naked men


[12-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
and the olympics were men only and performed naked


[12-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
THIS is the culture that called the ancient egyptians naked savages


[12-Sep-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the statue of david is massive and i didnt realize that until jsut recently


[12-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
ur pp will never be that hard.


[12-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
granted, that was mainly because the egyptian women didn't cover their ankles and bared their midriffs


[12-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Didn't Egyptian women flatout show nipples?


[12-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
that was mostly just in the art afaik


[12-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't actually a thing in day-to-day life


[12-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, cause of the hot sun?


[12-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently women in ancient egypt were also universally illiterate, so pretty much all records we have are from males of the time


[12-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
but yes, clothing was made specifically to protect them from the sun


[12-Sep-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
but children were completely naked


[12-Sep-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
up until the age of about 6


[12-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
I actually never figured out why that was a thing


[12-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
why the children were naked, I mean


[12-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
why did they suddenly need protection from the sun at age 6?


[12-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
wouldn't they need it as soon as they were born?


[12-Sep-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children ages 5 and under are immune to the sun


[12-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow smaller animals cool easier


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
very small animals need to go very fast metabolically to prevent freezing to death


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
larger animals hav trouble staying cool


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that for animals to function, they need heat


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to take a guess, it;s because children 5 and under grow at an uneven rate and they didnt want to keep resizing the clothing immediatley


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they produce a lot of heat, but also they can lose it to the environment


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow no http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/literacy.htm


[12-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
humans are long and spindly


[12-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means that we cool easily


[12-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we're very short and thin as far as hair


[12-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're adapted to running in the hot dry heat of Africa


[12-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
However due to being altricial and developing mostly outside the womb


[12-Sep-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
our children hav this problem where they get too cold much easier


[12-Sep-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes complete sense in a warm climate that children would run naked to take the heat of the sun while adults insulate and try to cool off with sweat.


[12-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
that article sounds like it's talking about women in richer families


[12-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes


[12-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd be very expensive to replace children's clothing.


[12-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Egypt was not awash in fabrics.


[12-Sep-19 12:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well lower class Egyptians anyways wouldn't have been literate to begin with. Education as we know it is very, very new.


[12-Sep-19 12:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dog-disease-norway-death-toll-vomiting-diarrhoea-sweden-a9095846.html

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Mystery disease kills dozens of dogs across Norway as officials sc...
Norwegian Veterinary institute said 'to have healthy and great Norwegian dogs die so quickly is naturally serious'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/06/17/12/sei74187425.jpg


[12-Sep-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ancient.eu/article/1058/womens-work-in-ancient-egypt/

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Women's Work in Ancient Egypt
Women in ancient Egypt had greater rights than in any other civilization of the time. They could own land, initiate divorce, own and operate their own business, become scribes, priests, seers, dentists...
http://www.ancient.eu/img/r/p/750x750/4191.jpg?v=1485681518


[12-Sep-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/women_01.shtml

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Egyptian women enjoyed a greater freedom than we would normally associate with the ancient world


[12-Sep-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Their ability to undertake certain tasks would be even further enhanced if they could read and write but, with less than 2% of ancient Egyptian society known to be literate, the percentage of women with these skills would be even smaller. Although it is often stated that there is no evidence for any women being able to read or write, some are shown reading documents. Literacy would also be necessary for them to undertake duties which at times included prime minister, overseer, steward and even doctor, with the lady Peseshet predating Elizabeth Garret Anderson by some 4,000 years."


[12-Sep-19 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
"By Graeco-Roman times women's literacy is relatively common, the mummy of the young woman Hermione inscribed with her profession 'teacher of Greek grammar'. A brilliant linguist herself, Cleopatra VII endowed the Great Library at Alexandria, the intellectual capital of the ancient world where female lecturers are known to have participated alongside their male colleagues. Yet an equality which had existed for millennia was ended by Christianity - the philosopher Hypatia was brutally murdered by monks in 415 AD as a graphic demonstration of their beliefs."


[12-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, christianity has always had an absurd notion that women should be subjugated and controlled


[12-Sep-19 12:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literacy in ancient times and even through most of the middle ages would have been a very limited phenomenon, remember that. Basically anyone engaging in certain specific roles would have been literate, especially in antiquity. Literacy was the thing for the priests and scribes, and only their thing. Most people didn't read. Poetry would have been how everyone else communicated their fiction, if because to record it's cheaper for a pre-printing press society than a full novel but a poem can be memorized faster than a novel.


[12-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
viking women were literate


[12-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
and viking men bathed more than once a year


[12-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
(once a week)


[12-Sep-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
medieval christians thought bathing made you more susceptible to disease


[12-Sep-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
turns out they were wrong


[12-Sep-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
it was kinda funny seeing the map of the black death end at christian borders


[12-Sep-19 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
because the other denominations bathed


[12-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
and even seeing little pockets inside their borders where the plague didn't spread because they weren't christian communities


[12-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49670123

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No-deal Brexit papers warn of shortages and riots
The Yellowhammer plan warns of riots and food price rises but ministers say it is not a prediction.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/182D1/production/_108752099_mediaitem108757467.jpg


[12-Sep-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that's been said like 4 times by 4 different groups in the past month lol


[12-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
like everyone's calling this the most massive bad idea in the history of bad ideas


[12-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
and the conservative party wants to run the bus straight off the cliff just to spite the labor party


[12-Sep-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some do


[12-Sep-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK conservatives are marginally less spineless than American conservatives


[12-Sep-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A fair number in parliament have turned independent or been kicked out for not towing the party line


[12-Sep-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/fox-news-tucker-carlson-claims-neocon-john-bolton-was-a-progressive-and-man-of-the-left/

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Fox News’ Tucker Carlson claims neocon John Bolton was a ‘prog...
Fox News personality Tucker Carlson attempted on Tuesday to re-label neoconservative John Bolton as a leftist after the Nationals Security Advisor was ousted by President Donald Trump. “National Security Advisor John Bolton got fired this morning as you no doubt have heard....
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[12-Sep-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking Tsar Bomba level take, Tucker


[12-Sep-19 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-judge-releases-student-accused-203642883.html oh good, another one of these

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Florida Judge Releases Student Accused of Attempted Sexual Assault...
The student has been charged with simple battery and false imprisonment


[12-Sep-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A judge agreed to release a University of Florida student accused of attempted sexual assault last week on non-monetary bond after his attorneys argued he was a “high-achieving student” and community leader.

Ian Milaski, 21, was accused of attempting to sexually assault a female student on Aug. 25, when he tried to kiss her in his room, told her he wanted to sleep with her and physically restrained her by the wrist, according to a university police report. When the woman tried to leave, he “grabbed her and physically picked her up off the ground and placed her on the bed,” and then “positioned himself on top of her,” according to the police report.

“He kept trying to ‘finger her’ [through] her underwear, and refused to let her go despite her cries to stop,” the report stated.

The woman ultimately ran from the room and asked a friend to stay with her because she was “so shaken up and scared.” Later that night, she heard her dorm room door open, and Milaski attempted to get into bed with her, according to the report.

Milaski was arrested on Aug. 28 and charged with simple battery and false imprisonment. He pleaded not guilty.

Ronald Kozlowski, Milaski’s attorney, says the incident described in the police report was “quite obviously” not an example of sexual assault.


[12-Sep-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic "he comes from a white family and is very white, so you shouldn't treat him like some poor blakk bitch who actually needs a break now and then" argument.


[12-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/30/elon-musk-jack-ma-biggest-problem-world-will-face-is-population-drop.html

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Elon Musk and Jack Ma agree: The biggest problem the world will fa...
Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Alibaba founder Jack Ma agree that the biggest problem the world will face in 20 years is population collapse.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105992052-1561662777245gettyimages-1155740300.jpeg?v=1567185073


[12-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/30/elon-musk-jack-ma-biggest-problem-world-will-face-is-population-drop.html

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Elon Musk and Jack Ma agree: The biggest problem the world will fa...
Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Alibaba founder Jack Ma agree that the biggest problem the world will face in 20 years is population collapse.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105992052-1561662777245gettyimages-1155740300.jpeg?v=1567185073


[12-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/30/elon-musk-jack-ma-biggest-problem-world-will-face-is-population-drop.html

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Elon Musk and Jack Ma agree: The biggest problem the world will fa...
Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Alibaba founder Jack Ma agree that the biggest problem the world will face in 20 years is population collapse.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105992052-1561662777245gettyimages-1155740300.jpeg?v=1567185073


[12-Sep-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
because capitalism relies on a steady incoming fresh workforce to feed to the meat grinder


[12-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
perpetual growth is unsustainable


[12-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
the effects are already showing in china, even though they lifted their single child law


[12-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
and japan is already experiencing capitalism without a fresh workforce to sustain it


[12-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
and elon musk and jack ma are both some of the biggest capitalists out there


[12-Sep-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
so of course they see it as a problem that has to be solved within the system instead of trying to create a new system that doesn't have the flaw


[12-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49534439

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Hong Kong protesters defy ban and battle police
Riot police and pro-democracy demonstrators clash violently in the latest protests to rock the city.
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[12-Sep-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/american-pastors-network-god-doesnt-approve-of-christian-leaders-who-criticize-trump/

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American Pastors Network: God Doesn’t Approve of Christian Leade...
In a segment of the American Pastors Network’s “Stand in the Gap” podcast published last week, hosts Gary Dull and Dave Kistler, without naming names, slammed “conservative Christian leaders” who “criticize the president incessantly.”“It bothers me and I …
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[12-Sep-19 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"God loves trump, this I know, because the money tells me so"


[12-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
yes because Trump of all people actually cares about religious freedom


[12-Sep-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
he just pretends to because it's in his best interest for now


[12-Sep-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
when it's no longer, they're just another thing he trashes


[12-Sep-19 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Sep-19 02:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-children-killed-first-day-of-school-attack

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Chinese man kills 8 children in attack on first day of school: police
A man — who recently served time for attempted murder —allegedly killed eight children and injured two others who were attending their first day of school in China, police said.
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[12-Sep-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/bloom-county-books

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Humble Comics Bundle: Bloom County 2019 by IDW
Pay what you want for awesome comics and support charity!
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[12-Sep-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Sep-19 03:01 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[12-Sep-19 03:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
does anyone remember raindy stair the weis market shooter ?


[12-Sep-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1171799384746582016?s=20

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While North Carolina Democrats were at a 9/11 ceremony, Republican legislators overrode the governor's veto of the state budget. They had promised not to take any votes while Democrats were absent. https://t.co/1STcnFKviG
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[12-Sep-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why were the Republicans absent from the ceremony?


[12-Sep-19 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And why did the Democrats not insist on having them come along?


[12-Sep-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because democrats are stupid and republicans are snakes

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[12-Sep-19 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wondering why the democrats couldn't convince the republicans to come along means you haven't been paying attention at all


[12-Sep-19 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know


[12-Sep-19 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I was just making rhethorical questions because holy fuck


[12-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I thought Bloom County ended years ago


[12-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its still around?


[12-Sep-19 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-carolina-gop-overrides-budget-veto-in-vote-while-many-democrats-were-at-911-events/

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North Carolina GOP votes to override budget veto while many Democr...
Republicans used an unexpected vote Wednesday to override Democratic Governor Roy Cooper's veto of the state's budget
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[12-Sep-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
As we close on 9/11, let's not forget what this day commemorates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

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[12-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No honor among thieves.


[12-Sep-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't believe they actually muted the mics to stop someone from dissenting


[12-Sep-19 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can, they've done that several tiems now


[12-Sep-19 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/u135siwc42m31.png

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[12-Sep-19 01:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Not satire


[12-Sep-19 01:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes


[12-Sep-19 01:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's out there for people to try out something spicy new lol


[12-Sep-19 02:01 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
eugh hearing trump talking about vaping and wanting to save lives oof


[12-Sep-19 02:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as-plantations-talk-more-honestly-about-slavery-some-visitors-are-pushing-back/ar-AAGZ7mF

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As plantations talk more honestly about slavery, some visitors are...
From Monticello in Virginia to McLeod in South Carolina, a push to deal with the brutal realities of slavery has generated a backlash but also drawn new visitors.


[12-Sep-19 02:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/d2sxcu/rpewdiepiesubmissions_revolt_against_the_mods_for/

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/r/PewdiepieSubmissions revolt against the mods for being told to ...
Backstory: Pewdiepie made a video in which he announced that he was donating 50,000 dollars to the Anti Defamation League. He followed this up...
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[12-Sep-19 03:01 PM] Mikey#7286
Can we ban anyone over 65 from running for any office


[12-Sep-19 03:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
but then how would we feel the bern?


[12-Sep-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
We wouldn't


[12-Sep-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
But also no Moscow Mitch


[12-Sep-19 03:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Or drumpf


[12-Sep-19 03:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Besides


[12-Sep-19 03:05 PM] Mikey#7286
I think bern's time has passed


[12-Sep-19 03:08 PM] Mikey#7286
I think he had a better chance in 2016


[12-Sep-19 03:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/21fxk9rtm4m31.png

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[12-Sep-19 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[12-Sep-19 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1172183181463830528?s=20

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PewDiePie pulls $50,000 pledge to Jewish anti-hate group after fan backlash https://t.co/moqWiMtp46
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[12-Sep-19 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[12-Sep-19 07:23 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Why pewds, you were doing a good :/


[12-Sep-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The alt-right is vicious.


[12-Sep-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Bruh wtf


[12-Sep-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
there's a lot of people who don't seem to realize that the iron cross is still a german symbol


[12-Sep-19 07:28 PM] Pirill#4680
Thank god


[12-Sep-19 07:28 PM] Pirill#4680
ADL is fucking cancer


[12-Sep-19 07:28 PM] Pirill#4680
Also why am I even here, I must've clicked this by accident


[12-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
granted, I'm not sure that it's even an iron cross


[12-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolnisi_cross

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Bolnisi cross
The Bolnisi cross (Georgian: ბოლნისის ჯვარი bolnisis ǰvari) is a cross symbol, taken from a 5th-century ornament at the  Bolnisi Sioni church, which came to be used as a national symbol of Georgia.
It is a variant of the Cross pattée popular in Chr...
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[12-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross

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Iron Cross
The Iron Cross (German: Eisernes Kreuz , abbreviated EK) is a former military decoration in the Kingdom of Prussia, and later in the German Empire (1871–1918) and Nazi Germany (1933–1945). It was established by King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia on 17 March 1813 during...
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[12-Sep-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
notice the white line tracing the cross (the outermost white isn't a part of the cross)


[12-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People hated PewDiePie and thought he was a terrible cringy guy until he started doing generic alt right shit


[12-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To be liked by the alt right you just have to act like them


[12-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile they make fun of the left actually holding people accountable


[12-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"lol they eat their own"


[12-Sep-19 08:09 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh boy, the Iron Cross. What a fun topic. I'm all for calling out those who use Nazi imagery for being assholes, but you know it's gone too far when people are calling for the destruction of the Brandenburg Gate


[12-Sep-19 08:21 PM] Mikey#7286
Pewds isn't alt-right, just an idiot


[12-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....


[12-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
:op:


[12-Sep-19 08:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol ok


[12-Sep-19 08:27 PM] Mikey#7286
Also he's still sending it to a charity, just not the ADL


[12-Sep-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c88a5292f9ac4eaba8e614801a3f7aea

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Trump administration to drop Obama-era water protection rule
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. (AP) — The Trump administration is revoking an Obama-era regulation that shielded many U.S. wetlands and streams from pollution but was opposed by developers and farmers who...
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[12-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What did pewdiepie did? Last time Ive seen him, he made crap gameplays with 99% bad acting and 1% actual gameplay.


[12-Sep-19 08:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This was in 2011. Then ponies happened to me.


[12-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
he started getting a huge influx of views/subs/whatever when he started spewing alt-right memes


[12-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
and now he's either too much of a coward to stop because they throw hissy fits when he acts outside of what they think he should act like, or he's become one of them


[12-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
him being a coward or him being one of them are both about just as likely


[12-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/12/20862320/sotomayor-supreme-court-favors-trump

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Justice Sotomayor warns the Supreme Court is doing "extraordinary"...
The Trump administration thinks the Supreme Court is its personal fixer. The court isn’t doing much to disabuse it of this idea.
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[12-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
also, apparently the US supreme court has been bypassing decades of tradition and normal procedure to go out of its way to defend trump's executive orders


[12-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
go figure


[12-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
> [G]ranting a stay pending appeal should be an “extraordinary” act. Unfortunately, it appears the Government has treated this exceptional mechanism as a new normal. Historically, the Government has made this kind of request rarely; now it does so reflexively. See, e.g., Vladeck, The Solicitor General and the Shadow Docket, 133 Harv. L. Rev. (forthcoming Nov. 2019). Not long ago, the Court resisted the shortcut the Government now invites. I regret that my colleagues have not exercised the same restraint here. I respectfully dissent.


[12-Sep-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
basically, granting a stay on a temporary ban of a policy that's being challenged in court until the court case is finished was considered "extraordinary"


[12-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
because the idea is that the case goes through the courts to determine whether a policy is constitutional or not


[12-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
More importantly


[12-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
but now, the executive branch is basically asking for the supreme court to lift literally every temporary ban on a new policy being challenged in court


[12-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
and the supreme court is granting all of them


[12-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The court was saying that the executive should be more limited in overruling Congress


[12-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it also said that the executive can do all this shit that overrules Congress


[12-Sep-19 08:59 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Second Gilded Age, ladies and gents.


[12-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
this indicates the court is flipping as needed towards conservative positions.


[12-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Pewds was already uber popular before he started the "alt right" shit


[12-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about chasing the fame.


[12-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you lose the fame you lose the money.


[12-Sep-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you lose the money you become homeless.


[12-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
you can become homeless in sweden?


[12-Sep-19 09:07 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
His claim "they were just jokes" was never one I bought, but I do think his current apologeticness is sincere. Losing his spine on this is regrettable, he had a chance to clear his name and only made it worse.


[12-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
apparently he lives in the UK now


[12-Sep-19 09:07 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
His exact phrasing made it sound like he believed some of the conspiracies thrown at the charity, which is infuriating.


[12-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
so becoming homeless is still a concern, though nowhere near the scale as becoming homeless in the US


[12-Sep-19 09:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/brazil-tourism-ambassador-choke-macron-sleeping-dragon

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Brazil's tourism ambassador threatens to 'choke' Macron, says he i...
Brazil’s tourism ambassador and former Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) fighter, Renzo Gracie, has posted a video on Twitter threatening to “choke” French President Emmanuel Macron - along with insulting his wife.
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[12-Sep-19 09:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Pewds was acting edgy because he obviously thought he could get away with it since he was popular


[12-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
I mean shit


[12-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
The guy would be well off even if he was completely dropped


[12-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Mikey#7286
He's basically a multi millionaire


[12-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Mikey#7286
Also I've heard that charity isn't exactly innocent, I mean pirill said it's Cancer lol


[12-Sep-19 09:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Also


[12-Sep-19 09:23 PM] Mikey#7286
ADL is the group that made the ok hand a white supremacy symbol


[12-Sep-19 09:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chick-fil-a-kansas-university-campus

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Kansas University faculty wants Chick-fil-A banned from campus for...
A few Kansas University faculty members are not fans of allowing Chick-fil-A's chicken sandwich to be served on campus for fears of "safety."
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[12-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/09/05/british-actress-distraught-over-being-linked-to-jeffrey-epsteins-inner-circle/

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British actress ‘distraught’ over being linked to Jeffrey Epst...
A British actress accused of being in Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle is “distraught” over the “shocking” allegations against her, according to her family. Prosecutors in the US reported…
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[12-Sep-19 09:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Big brain time again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-south-scotland-49661019

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Scotland-Northern Ireland bridge: How likely is it to be built?
What are the prospects of the multi-billion pound construction project becoming a reality?
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[12-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/05/fbi-terror-watch-list-unconstitutional/


[12-Sep-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49667778 why was he allowed to do this?

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Brock Turner judge fired from coaching schoolgirls
The judge was ousted by voters in 2018, and briefly found a new job coaching at a San Jose school.
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[12-Sep-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like an oversight.


[12-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note it's rather disturbing that a case that involved life-long sex offender registration was seen as *too lenient*.


[12-Sep-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now obviously, the judge probably shouldn't be going abnormally below, but the US has become crazy about sentencing.


[12-Sep-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once upon a time, 10 years in jail was a rare, extreme case.


[12-Sep-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's the norm, and when people see anything under a year, they think the judge is evil.


[12-Sep-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember people being scared by this because it could lead to judges that aren't "tough on crime" enough being not retained


[12-Sep-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Electing judges is an awful idea.


[12-Sep-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[12-Sep-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Populism often involves excessive punishment.


[12-Sep-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And those who try to stop it get themselves punished.


[12-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who commit war crimes go free etc.


[12-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I got called hypocritical and populist for being against the Electoral College


[12-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[12-Sep-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it was also like, me saying that plus thinking that people who are smarter being in power is better


[12-Sep-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Being against the EC but also thinking that populism is not good because it is based on illogical beliefs


[12-Sep-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only way I would accept the EC is if metro areas get a separate vote


[12-Sep-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, in Montana, Helena's metro area would get their own votes


[12-Sep-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't work but what else could we do


[12-Sep-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen conservatives fearful that fighting reform of it would lead to its eventual total abolishing


[12-Sep-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like give the left something or when they have power they will kill it


[12-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely do not giv Helena its own vote, btw


[12-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Helena is the state capital, Its


[12-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's politics are faux liberalism wrapped in libertarians


[12-Sep-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bozeman and Missoula are where the actual liberalism happens, with Butte as a sort of weird mess of moderates and far right crazies.


[12-Sep-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit why have states at all, just make it all metro areas


[12-Sep-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even rural areas can be put somewhere


[12-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea was to fragment the power up so that it was harder for the executive to go full monarchy


[12-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The founders underestimated how shitty the South is.


[12-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget making new random state shapes.


[12-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should've just declared the area a territory.


[12-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it wants statehood? Possibly as multiple states? Make them the same average population as northern states, then.


[12-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey! Vsauce Michael here. Did the South _really_ deserve to be readmitted?


[12-Sep-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Where would we be now, in the North, if we'd let them secede


[12-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
We'd've conquered them for territory.


[12-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no situation where they remain independent, ever.


[12-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
What really should've happened is SCOTUS should've been organized differently and declared slavery unconstitutional in the 1830s


[12-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then federal troops could've come in and shoot the shit out of any southerner trying to resist.


[12-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically preempt the whole secession thing entirely.


[12-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Jackson was right?


[12-Sep-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
scotus has generally been supportive of conservative positions for most of its existence


[12-Sep-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
that would have probably never happened


[12-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jackson was pro-slavery, so no.


[12-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jackson should've been assassinated.


[12-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Defied SCOTUS to fukk over natives.


[12-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't he say he would personally go down and hang any seccessionist


[12-Sep-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Secessionist ≠ slavery supporter


[12-Sep-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
I think he just wanted to keep the union and keep the slaveholders voting


[12-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He would've hung the secessionists and the abolitionists together.


[12-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jackson was a horrid guy and a large part of what was wrong with America in the 19th century.


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy basically blazed a trail for future shitheads.


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Including the current shithead


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are so obsessed with "activist judges" that I saw someone recently say


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That the judiciary doesn't have the right to decide what the law is or throw one out


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I... wut


[12-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which also was the opinion of a recent acting AG


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also don't think the judiciary should be able to say the executive went beyond what congress wanted


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want a monarchy


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget what the guys name was but he was acting AG for a while


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are Democracy-neutral


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was asked worst SCOTUS decisions


[12-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
to them, it doesn't matter whether what system of gov't we use


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said Roe and fucking Marbury v. Madison


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
as long as it leads to fukking over brown people and women and gays, they're happy.


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the executive helps out brown people, they scream about it


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
don't forget poor people


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the judiciary helps out brown people, they scream about it


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
If you're poor it's your own damn fault


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Clearly


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope Democrats pack the Court


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
if the legislature helps out brown people, they hav the judiciary or executive undercut it


[12-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Stop being poor you poor fuck


[12-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd rather go from 9 justices to 7


[12-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Toss out the two most conservative shills.


[12-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd rather have at least 11, preferably 13


[12-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And leave space to add up to a solid number if need be


[12-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, make justices subject to discipline


[12-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or, add just one appointed judge and five decided just by the judges themselves


[12-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whatever is done needs to be resistant to future pakking efforts


[12-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it needs to be something not easily manipulated.


[12-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently, the Senate is easy to manipulate.


[12-Sep-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/DisinfoEU/status/1171731869920112642

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[13-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49683029

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Twitter suspends official accounts in Cuba
The social media giant suspends state-run media and officials' accounts, citing policy violations.
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[13-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess Twitter's "newsworthy accounts are above the rules" thing doesn't count for commies


[13-Sep-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
So much for the open market of ideas.


[13-Sep-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
And so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrBQEAM3rE
Noam Chomsky- Manufacturing consent (1992)
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[13-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew https://kotaku.com/pewdiepie-rescinds-50-000-pledge-to-jewish-charity-aft-1838070628

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After Felix “Pewdiepie” Kjellberg pledged to make a plush donation of $50,000 to the Anti-Defamation League, an advocacy group founded to combat anti-Semitism, hundreds of his fans went into full conspiracy theory mode, questioning whether he had been blackmailed into doi...
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[13-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, already posted


[13-Sep-19 01:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49625233

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'Trump, please save Hong Kong' - protesters
The protesters march near the US consulate general on the 14th straight weekend of demonstrations.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07mskyj.jpg


[13-Sep-19 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
"No" -Trump


[13-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's no oil in hong kong, so they're shit out of luck :(


[13-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if there was some small previously british-owned city-state in iran


[13-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
trump would be chomping at the bit to arm them


[13-Sep-19 01:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csynsx

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BBC World Service - The Fifth Floor, Lessons for Hong Kong from Uk...
Why a Ukrainian film about Kiev’s Maidan Square protests has taken off in Hong Kong
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p07mmlnm.jpg


[13-Sep-19 01:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And what the hell is this


[13-Sep-19 01:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They want Hong Kong to be the second Ukrain?


[13-Sep-19 01:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or they wanna prevent this? I can't understand the English by listening


[13-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/andrew-yang-120000-giveaway-for-ubi-pilot-program-1493622

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Andrew Yang to announce $120,000 giveaway during debate
Yang will announce the online raffle in his opening statement.
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[13-Sep-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWVO0Trd1c

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Democratic Debate 2019: WATCH LIVE Third 2020 Democratic President...
Follow the latest live updates: https://abcn.ws/DemDebate 5:00 PM ET - "The Briefing Room" Debate preview 5:30 PM ET - "The Playlist" - Debate edition 6:00 P...
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[13-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is it going so far


[13-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden called Sanders "President"


[13-Sep-19 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Castro also ripped him apart for either lying or forgetting something he'd said just a minute ago


[13-Sep-19 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Beto... is there


[13-Sep-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's one flub


[13-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar makes me want to puke, worse than Biden in the whole "let's not do anything drastic, I'm the everyman candidate"


[13-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
abc is actively hostile agaist Warren and Biden


[13-Sep-19 02:43 AM] ononim#8141
how the fuck KLOBUCHAR of all people is still there


[13-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Straight up going for soundbites


[13-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're the progressive and moderate everyone hates


[13-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People want Sanders and...uh


[13-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Ignoring all other costs, will you admit taxes will increase?"


[13-Sep-19 02:44 AM] ononim#8141
and not Orb Mom or Tulsi "Hindutva Thrid Positionist" Gabbard


[13-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
err, warren and sanders, I meant


[13-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is starting to get disliked by progressives now


[13-Sep-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's fucking up on his own


[13-Sep-19 02:45 AM] ononim#8141
Like only thing I think everyone knows about Klobuchar is what she yells at her staff and eats salad with a hairbrush


[13-Sep-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People really won't accept anything less than Sanders


[13-Sep-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is basically the same


[13-Sep-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders almost feels robotic to me at times


[13-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
sanders basically has to repeat the same thing he says every debate because he's constantly accused of saying something different than what he's actually saying


[13-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
by twisting his words into somehow nefarious intents


[13-Sep-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah...


[13-Sep-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But well, policies above persona, always


[13-Sep-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At some point it does become a "Greatest Hits" thing


[13-Sep-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
@AlchemistLiang Hong Kong to learn from Ukraine and go full left-Anarchist and bash some red-colored fash. MAHKNO'S SPIRIT AND KIM CHWA-CHIN SHALL MERGE AS ONE TO FORM THE SUPER ANARCHIST!


[13-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess it was Yang's night


[13-Sep-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He had a few good moments


[13-Sep-19 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Then again, most candidates were relatively solid tonight


[13-Sep-19 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No Tim Ryans or John Delaneys


[13-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar tho


[13-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like a moldy sponge


[13-Sep-19 04:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also Biden
"I've been in Afghanistan the most often" or something similar

Buttigieg: bruhmoment.jpg


[13-Sep-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
McCain: bruh moment.tiff


[13-Sep-19 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for Biden to just keel over Live


[13-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, Harris is black?


[13-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Mikey#7286
Speaking of McCain I would have rather had him instead of trump


[13-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Mikey#7286
And partly


[13-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's as pale as I am...


[13-Sep-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
When Warren went over the speaking limit I liked what she had to say

When Harris did it I wanted to say "ugh silence"


[13-Sep-19 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Big typo


[13-Sep-19 04:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:toplul:


[13-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Mikey#7286
She kinda has dark skin


[13-Sep-19 04:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah
She's also getting a lot of black support


[13-Sep-19 04:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Could be useful and also probably explains her pretty solid polling


[13-Sep-19 04:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although I wonder why it's going to her and not Booker


[13-Sep-19 04:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think the two draw from similar bases


[13-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris was also a prosecutor who was "tough on crime" so yeah


[13-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Mikey#7286
im not really a fan of any of the dem candidates tbh, at least not the ones I know anything about


[13-Sep-19 04:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
imo none are super bad (except Biden)


[13-Sep-19 04:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Some are less interesting than others


[13-Sep-19 04:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And ultimately I would vote for any of them because imo they're preferable to Trump


[13-Sep-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The one who doubled down on taking away guns is, I think, the least in touch about the debate


[13-Sep-19 04:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Beto?


[13-Sep-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I liked Warren's plan though


[13-Sep-19 04:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think Beto's trying to take an assertive persona


[13-Sep-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So yeah "take your AKs and ARs"


[13-Sep-19 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Beto killed himself live on stage with that


[13-Sep-19 04:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He lost a *lot* of electability from independents


[13-Sep-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah that's a one-way ticket to zero votes


[13-Sep-19 04:57 AM] Mikey#7286
i only know anything about Harris, Biden, Warren, and Bernie, and a bit of Buttigieg


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
biden is a big no from me


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
bernie i think has past his time


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause even the people who are on the side of gun control recognize that's a stupid way to approach it


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not to proselytize too much, but give Yang a look Mikey


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(totally a biased suggestion but lol)


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
I dunno much about him


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yang is okay


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yang will literally pay you $48,000 if you elect him president


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
and there are like


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
10 other candidates


[13-Sep-19 04:58 AM] Mikey#7286
yes?


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
There's the accusation that he is "buying votes" that way
Promising money for votes


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, we're at a point where any of those 10 - yes, even Biden - in office would be good for America


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Definitely not the intent


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's been the GOP go-to for decades


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We'll lower your taxes!"


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Mikey#7286
lol, the GOP had like


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] Mikey#7286
16 candidates in 2016


[13-Sep-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just a reminder that Trump's tax reform doubled the taxes for Gold Star families


[13-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Mikey#7286
and haven't most of the dem candidates dropped out except the ones everyone knows


[13-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They've effectively been filtered out


[13-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[13-Sep-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still several in the running that just aren't considered


[13-Sep-19 05:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Most people refuse to look past Yang's $1000/mo and label him as a socialist/libertarian/one trick pony on the spot


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
i know like half the 2016 GOP candidates dropped out before the first debate


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also yeah it's basically down to the top 10 now


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there were way too many '16 candidates to begin with


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
well


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
the dems only had 3


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
i think?


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And practically none of them were good options


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] Mikey#7286
hilary, bernie and some other dude


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden, Warren, Sanders, Harris, Buttigieg, Booker, O' Rourke, Yang, Klobuchar, and Castro


[13-Sep-19 05:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Arguably Steyer and Gabbard


[13-Sep-19 05:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although I'd argue Steyer's only in this because he's pumped money into ads


[13-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't think bernie has a chance this time


[13-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
he didn't have one last time either mind you


[13-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Mikey#7286
but this time he has less of one


[13-Sep-19 05:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The top 3 most likely are Warren, Biden and Sanders, in that order


[13-Sep-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yang is basically Bernie without all the "could drop dead at any moment"


[13-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Mikey#7286
hmm


[13-Sep-19 05:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm going off betting odds rather than polls


[13-Sep-19 05:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/3633/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-presidential-nomination


[13-Sep-19 05:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yang also seems more future oriented, but also less experienced


[13-Sep-19 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yeah, I think at this point public opinion polls might not accurately reflect what's going to happen because I don't think a lot of people want to *admit* their position


[13-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Warren, Booker, Buttigieg, my bets


[13-Sep-19 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I love that Hillary has better odds than O'Rourke on PredictIt lmao


[13-Sep-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do think that barring a massive scandal or medical emergency removing Biden from the race, he's still got enough steam to seriously mess up the results for the other frontrunners. Old people vote, man


[13-Sep-19 05:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
My bets are Biden, Sanders, Warren

My dream winner is Yang


[13-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden will probably die before the elections


[13-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm honestly glad Hilary didn't run again


[13-Sep-19 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Plus, Biden's got all the unpersonable conservative blustering that republicans crave


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hillary's name has been heavily tarnished


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or have a major "Where am I?" moment on stage


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
She's not even that bad of a person


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
She just lost to Trump


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His eyeball filled with blood


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Mikey#7286
she was debating on it again iirc


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think anyone cares


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clinton is absolutely a bad person


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck her


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] Mikey#7286
also she's not exactly innocent


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"that" bad


[13-Sep-19 05:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as in, not a fascist


[13-Sep-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ofc the bar is super low because I'm comparing her to a large part of the GOP


[13-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
low bar


[13-Sep-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But she's not great


[13-Sep-19 05:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also Biden isn't going to win many Repubs over because of his association with Obama


[13-Sep-19 05:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let me restate for the record that if the entire republican party went poof, we'd still have enough liberals and conservatives to balance the scales


[13-Sep-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think there was one poll saying Sanders had the most bipartisan support


[13-Sep-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Aka former Trump voters turned to him the most


[13-Sep-19 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
people said that about Yang at one point, too


[13-Sep-19 05:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think he was second?
I have to temper my expectations though


[13-Sep-19 05:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He may be growing, but 3% is still only 3%


[13-Sep-19 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's worth keeping these ancillary runners in mind for one simple reason


[13-Sep-19 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whatever their strongest suit is, it's a blind spot for one of the other frontrunners that will be worth filling when/if they pick a running mate


[13-Sep-19 05:11 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also I hate the argument of "lol drop out you're only polling at 2%" directed towards candidates like Booker, Beto, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, etc


[13-Sep-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At this point in time Trump had similar support


[13-Sep-19 05:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And he won the damn thing


[13-Sep-19 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Still holding out hope for a voltron dream team coming out of this top 10 list


[13-Sep-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I will vote for Sanders/Warren/Yang without hesitation
Buttigieg is a tier 2
Everyone else in the top 10 I would vote for with mild hesitation


[13-Sep-19 05:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Voltron Dream Team?


[13-Sep-19 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't actually know if it's legal for candidates to nominate a running mate at this point, or even make some sort of public pact with their fellow candidates that they'll team up if one or the other wins the primary


[13-Sep-19 05:14 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why wouldn't it be


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wouldn't mind Biden, I'd vote for him with less hesitation than voting for Clinton


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If those outside the race can endorse candidates on the inside, why can't those on the inside


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd prefer others


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm scared of a Biden presidency though


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He could fuck up hard


[13-Sep-19 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that depends entirely on who he surrounds himself with


[13-Sep-19 05:16 AM] Mikey#7286
if he gets elected we better get more uncle biden memes


[13-Sep-19 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as far as I can tell, Biden's only priority is maintaining status quo, and it'll be up to everyone around him to decide which things are actually status quo and which things are problems that need to be fixed


[13-Sep-19 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause simply staying the course is not enough, we're actively and rapidly sliding down the fascism slope, and we have been for some time now


[13-Sep-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden's not going to fuck up anything I don't think except the Democrats' reputation


[13-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, nothing


[13-Sep-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Dem's and Rep's perceptions of each other and themselves has already basically found a constant


[13-Sep-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(high within, low outside)


[13-Sep-19 06:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://courtenytalknet.wordpress.com/2019/09/11/teen-choked-by-illinois-police-who-entered-his-home-without-warrant/

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https://courtenytalknet.wordpress.com/2019/09/11/teen-choked-by-illinois-police-who-entered-his-home-without-warrant/
Teen Choked By Illinois Police Who Entered His Home Without Warrant
From Discover on Google
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[13-Sep-19 06:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/kMlXlJS.mp4

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https://imgur.com/kMlXlJS
Yeah they're suing
https://i.imgur.com/kMlXlJSh.jpg


[13-Sep-19 07:00 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Classic cops


[13-Sep-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
where's that list of right-wing vs left-wing terrorist attacks?


[13-Sep-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/614203037556408360/1566502981684.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/614203037556408360/1566502981684.png


[13-Sep-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
found it


[13-Sep-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
is there a source for this without the dumb meme dude?


[13-Sep-19 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-house-anwr/u-s-takes-major-step-toward-oil-drilling-in-alaska-wildlife-refuge-idUKKCN1VX26X

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-house-anwr/u-s-takes-major-step-toward-oil-drilling-in-alaska-wildlife-refuge-idUKKCN1VX26X
U.S. takes major step toward oil drilling in Alaska wildlife refuge
The Trump administration on Thursday took a major step toward opening Alaska...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190913&t=2&i=1429266303&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF8B1JI


[13-Sep-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
so I guess there isn't an non-meme source for that list of right wing vs left wing terrorist attacks


[13-Sep-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to find a list to send to my mom because she doesn't believe right wing terrorists exist


[13-Sep-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
I already know she's going to deny the el paso dude was right-wing because he said some stuff about environmentalism


[13-Sep-19 07:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if there ever was it;s likely been buried by dumb meme dude


[13-Sep-19 07:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I tried to make a non meme dude version but the text is too small to enlarge


[13-Sep-19 07:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it shouldn't be too hard to crop and edit


[13-Sep-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.adl.org/education-and-resources/resource-knowledge-base/adl-heat-map

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https://www.adl.org/education-and-resources/resource-knowledge-base/adl-heat-map
ADL H.E.A.T. Map
A first-of-a-kind interactive map detailing extremist and anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S., the ADL H.E.A.T. Map is a visual reflection of select proprietary datasets developed by ADL experts in its Center on Extremism.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/2018-08/0006_heatmap%20%281%29.png


[13-Sep-19 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
I found this


[13-Sep-19 07:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe you can do soemthing with this

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/621943148259835924/unknown.png


[13-Sep-19 07:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried googling it but all i got was far right obama joker memes


[13-Sep-19 07:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why sobama?


[13-Sep-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457 (pinned)

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/621944162576498689/terrorist_attacks.png


[13-Sep-19 01:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TucGdMXGzWw

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JRE Clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TucGdMXGzWw
Joe Rogan | Chappelle's New Special Had 0% on Rotten Tomatoes
Taken from JRE #1346 w/Zuby: https://youtu.be/ffwbNfjNRTw
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TucGdMXGzWw/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Sep-19 02:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolute big brained take Chappelle had about child support


[13-Sep-19 02:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta love how stand up is now nothing but political whinging now.


[13-Sep-19 02:43 PM] Treascair#7785
I'm reminded of the comic where a comedian is bitching about how censored they are, and non-mainstream their views are... as they collect ever more money and awards.


[13-Sep-19 02:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty much how it is


[13-Sep-19 02:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't have to actually be funny, just make a special that is telling the audience how right they are


[13-Sep-19 02:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why stand up is a dated format that is dying.


[13-Sep-19 02:49 PM] Treascair#7785
Well, and comedy is subjective to boot. For instance, I do NOT find Chappelle funny. Gabriel Iglesias is a riot. Jeff Dunham is hit and miss (mostly hit). And that's my personal taste.


[13-Sep-19 02:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just find it a medium that isn't well adapted to how modern viewers actually want comedy


[13-Sep-19 03:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point about media in general is to do what majority of viewers like. Like pop music vs good music.


[13-Sep-19 03:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hence comedy is aligned  to viewers. For instance pewdiepie may look fool, but actually he plays for audience.


[13-Sep-19 03:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or another youtuber, he is quite clever. He plays as "angry" person and intentionally being inattentive as part of marketing.


[13-Sep-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461208-biden-mistakenly-refers-to-sanders-as-the-president-during-debate

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461208-biden-mistakenly-refers-to-sanders-as-the-president-during-debate
Biden mistakenly refers to Sanders as 'the president' during debate
Former Vice President Joe Biden accidentally referred to fellow presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) as “the president” during a heated exchange on health care during the third Democratic presidential debate Thursday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_bidenjoe_warrenelizabeth_091219upi_lead.jpg

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[13-Sep-19 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders may be old, but Biden is senile


[13-Sep-19 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are quite a few stand up comedians i like, though i think part of the problem for modern televised stand up is they do rating filters and only show the popular ones now


[13-Sep-19 03:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[13-Sep-19 03:19 PM] byte[]#2610
pinning for future ref


[13-Sep-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can all go home folks, biden has named sanders as president, the election is over

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[13-Sep-19 03:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes, that's what media has rolled down to. Optimisation and maximisation.


[13-Sep-19 03:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who is that old guy who streams games?


[13-Sep-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's an old guy who streams games?


[13-Sep-19 03:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
One of these politicians


[13-Sep-19 03:26 PM] byte[]#2610
sanders made a twitch if that's what you're asking


[13-Sep-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back when stand up was more popular they did whole series with episodes featuring a different smaller comedian each episode, they dont really do that anymore and instead focus on larger more established comedians in big specials


[13-Sep-19 03:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yep, thanks. He should play SimCity or any other management games, to see how he is good at his job, heheheh.


[13-Sep-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to bernie sanders plays planet coaster


[13-Sep-19 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.twitch.tv/bernie_sanders

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https://www.twitch.tv/bernie_sanders
Bernie_Sanders - Twitch
How Bernie's Vision Dominated The #DemDebate
https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/7e560345-d4e9-47d6-8020-15108bfddcaa-profile_image-300x300.png


[13-Sep-19 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did he made a rollercoaster to hell?


[13-Sep-19 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Will check later.


[13-Sep-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
SNL: _hires first Asian-American_


[13-Sep-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also SNL: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/shane-gillis-snl-racial-slur-saturday-night-live-nbc-1203334216/

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Will Thorne
https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/shane-gillis-snl-racial-slur-saturday-night-live-nbc-1203334216/
New ‘SNL’ Cast Member Shane Gillis Uses Racist, Sexist, Homoph...
NOTE: There is highly offensive language quoted directly in the story, which has been included verbatim because some of the source material appears to have been removed from the internet. Variety s…
https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/shane-gillis.jpg?w=700&h=393&crop=1

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[13-Sep-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
woops


[13-Sep-19 03:52 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
wew


[13-Sep-19 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Non-apology given because apparently a "Crash of Crans" joke is peak comedy you can't censor


[13-Sep-19 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/benjamin-netanyahu-facebook-page-suspended-why-arabs-post-a9102541.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/benjamin-netanyahu-facebook-page-suspended-why-arabs-post-a9102541.html
Netanyahu's Facebook page suspended over hate speech
Israeli president blames staffer for post about murderous Arabs
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/09/12/13/netanyahu-1-12-09.jpg


[13-Sep-19 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh-srael


[13-Sep-19 05:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I wonder if Bernie likes Cities Skylines 🤔


[13-Sep-19 05:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Gillis, in describing women who disguised themselves as men to fight in the war, refers to them as “flat chested f—ing bitch[es].”

Oof, this dude is a fucking cunt lmao


[13-Sep-19 05:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
DID SOMEONE SAY CITIES SKYLINES? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-r5ulpoQQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-r5ulpoQQ
Cities: Skylines | Franklin, Episode 10: Law & Order
Ha! I told you it'd be back Donate to Chelsea Manning's legal fund: https://couragetoresist.org/free-chelsea-manning-again/ Donate to victims of the Christch...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cX-r5ulpoQQ/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Sep-19 05:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Blatant racism? Nah. Offensive slurs? Nah.

"Women who disguised as men to fight in wars are dumb lol" Aight hold the fuck up


[13-Sep-19 05:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
But yeah Skylines is great when you want to spend three hours doing *nothing*


[13-Sep-19 05:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Going to show us how he is good at it.


[13-Sep-19 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spend 3 hours trying to fix a traffic jam only to make it five times worse


[13-Sep-19 05:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The only reason traffic jams exist in that game is because the AI is hilariously dumb and doesn't even try to use all the lanes or routes available 😆


[13-Sep-19 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
naziyahoo at it again


[13-Sep-19 06:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Im here to talk about stupid stereotypes


[13-Sep-19 06:18 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Why do people think most texans are hill billys but in reality its not


[13-Sep-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because  of your politicians and the fact that the hillbillies make the most noise


[13-Sep-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the texans that least fit the stereotype live in urban areas


[13-Sep-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
and, in fact, most texans live in urban areas of texas


[13-Sep-19 06:22 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Most texans are conservative


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
most urban areas of texas are liberal


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Not all


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
texas is transitioning to becoming a purple state


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Tarrent county is still red


[13-Sep-19 06:23 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also denton as well


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
local effects are not global


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So about Harris, tuff on crime, and Beto's stance on guns


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
texas is a large mix of red and blue all over theplace


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fellasleep before the debate


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you will find that within the Democratic party


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea what happened


[13-Sep-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
the most conservative "law and order" candidates tend to be minorities


[13-Sep-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason is that in a minority community, to get ahead, you need to appease the ruling class, whites


[13-Sep-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the easiest way to do that is to lokk up your fellow minorities.


[13-Sep-19 06:25 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also rednecks are not hillbillys


[13-Sep-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah rednecks and hillbillies are different


[13-Sep-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Beto is far, far tuffer on crime than Ted Cruz


[13-Sep-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
and why Harris would probably imprison far more people than Biden


[13-Sep-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve met rednecks, i havent met any hillbillies personally though


[13-Sep-19 06:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Indiana is more hillbilly then texas


[13-Sep-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the one way in which Obama was truly exceptional


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
he released tons of blakk prisoners early


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is also a big part of why the right went to Trump


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I might change my party


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know if hillbillies are a thing in north carolina


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They felt betrayed by Obama for undoing federal work to imprison as many blakk people as possible.


[13-Sep-19 06:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
If yang2020 happens


[13-Sep-19 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Up until then, Obama's brand of delayed progress had wide appeal.


[13-Sep-19 06:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Biden is not a good choice


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden is the brick wall candidate


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal and Sanders?


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And i feel like he is going to rig the dnc


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically wants to rewind the trump era and put a brick wall square at the end of the obama era


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont know about sanders


[13-Sep-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanders basically wants to get shit fixed


[13-Sep-19 06:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also im kind of iffy about sanders


[13-Sep-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he refuses to be bought out by insurance companies, and largely isnt trying to appeal to the white conservative majority


[13-Sep-19 06:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Mostly becuase of the censorship and well protection


[13-Sep-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
?


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is the guy who can reach across the aisle to white supremacists, christian extremists, child-abusing billionnaires, and corrupt politicians.


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well protection?


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
You don't know about Sanders but you're iffy about him?


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Guns


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Im not for gun control


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will absolutely ban assault rifles lol


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just to get the votes from doing so


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and to prevent having to improve mental health care)


[13-Sep-19 06:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also with youtube and the media


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Censorship is killing this country


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders and Biden do not control YouTube nor does it control them.


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gun control has levels, most people want the basic flat level of gun control, that elts thme have guns, but there;s a better and safer method of obtainment


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican-controlled executive just forced YouTube into more censorship


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
because of COPPA


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
See i just want a independent runner


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It made YouTube enter into an agreement where YouTube would mark content as "child-directed" and remove all notifications and commenting.


[13-Sep-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents can't win.


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is technically an independent


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
he has to caucus with Democrats and run in their primary


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about andrew yang?


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
to even get a shot.


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
What about him?


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he loses the Dem primary, he can't run as independent, you know


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are states with laws that don't allow you to be put on the ballot after you lose a primary, for that election season.


[13-Sep-19 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden would have been running as a republican if it weren;t too extreme for him to hakc it


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Biden is bad


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But free college


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden won't giv free college.


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I know


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
That


[13-Sep-19 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will just undo Trump's undos for 2 years.


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And cause a war


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's already a war


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
biden is unlikely to cause any sort of war


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
you've been misled if you thought that


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are in a proxy war with Russia.


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's called Syria.


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Oof


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I dont want to die


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is waging it with the congressional and judicial branches


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
you probably won't


[13-Sep-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russian mercs are terrible


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but if you get hurt


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
US combined arms utterly creams them every time.


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you'll wish you were dead, to spare your family the medical bills


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But nukes?


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has one aircraft carrier and it has to be followed by tugs and other ships to repair it at all times.


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to nuke each other.


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't grasp the geopolitical situation.


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nuking is a suicide move


[13-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
War between major powers directly is *off the table*.


[13-Sep-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is only major powers vs minor powers, and major powers using minor powers as battlegrounds.


[13-Sep-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Has been that way since Korea


[13-Sep-19 06:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Makes sense


[13-Sep-19 06:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also


[13-Sep-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fear of being nuked means you never actually invade another major.


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just send in troops you can deny are yours to kill their troops they can deny are theirs in a place nobody really owns.


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north korea is likely the only one insane enough to actually try and nuke major powers


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
NK won't nuke anyone


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a losing move on NK's part.


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its entire strategy is to use the fear of the damage it could do on starting a war to prevent invasion.


[13-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it actually did that damage, there'd be no reason to not invade it.


[13-Sep-19 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it'd be US or South Korean or Chinese territory within hours.


[13-Sep-19 06:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[13-Sep-19 06:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So my question is antifa is it bad?


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I have a handy diagram for you that I pinned this morning


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/621944162576498689/terrorist_attacks.png

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[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
But is destroying business good


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
irrelevant argument


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives do far worse


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
K


[13-Sep-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
big business destroys small business all the time


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kind of walmart;s MO


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about the censorship on youtube


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's youtube tos


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube censorship is bipartisan.


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also a lot of it's desired by China


[13-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Video about trans people = demonetized, cause Chinese ad bots hate trans issues.


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
youtube is a private platform and their censorship is not biased towards a particular party, other than, you know, actual calls to violence


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
demonetization is not censorship


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just scream louder about random alt righters getting taken down than random leftists.


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they basically censor what the ad companies want thme to censor


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So is it wrong for me to say i dont agee on your belives


[13-Sep-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
no, I just don't think you understand my beliefs


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats feel put in a bind cause they want to be seen as hard on this stuff, but they don't want to admit they don't giv much of a shit either way.


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase of religion


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I would say that most here are effectively atheist


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately both parties hav allowed companies too much power over our lives


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not really religious


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
and hav allowed China too much power over the companies


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
neoliberalism is a bipartisan curse.


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Im a Christian


[13-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley started it, and the Koch Brothers ran with it.


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, i hope you;re doing well in that


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] ononim#8141
wat is happening here


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and the Kochs made it drive the Republican party)


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the Kochs and Falwell and Reagan and Gingrich


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So if we go socialist


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the FEC doesn't hav a quorom right now.


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What happens


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can break election law and won't be penalized.


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the most recent penalization


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
was $25k


[13-Sep-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal the workers own the means of production


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the definition of socialism


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase i get the feeling that socialism and communism are getting mixed up


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
for a congresswoman who got an extra $300k she shouldn't've.


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they very much are


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take 900% profit


[13-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trikky thing is Marx's communism isn't Leninism isn't Stalinism.


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Im also kind of worried that most people are not gonna work


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even much of the neutral terms people use are Marx-derived


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
most people aren't going to work anyway


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
have you heard of automation


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's different types for capitalism, socialism, and communism


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Marx had some good ideas on fixing shit, but nobody implemented even really half of them


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yeah companies are moving towards automation and they arent hiring anyway


[13-Sep-19 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Leninism sort of tried, but it was more a political thing


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism meanwhile is its bastard son that killed daddy.


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well i guest that screws over my parents


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase of money


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately when you giv the state complete control of the economy, power is in one place


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is going to end employment anyway


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Also going poor


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
US neoliberalism is the weird reverse


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
business is taking over the gov't


[13-Sep-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal that's why you probably want the government to support you


[13-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
which also leads to too much power in one place.


[13-Sep-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
there will be no jobs


[13-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
US socialism is good mainly because it doesn't want the gov't to control everything


[13-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
it wants the gov't to fight businesses coming together, and its main goal is economic equality


[13-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So does the government control everything i do


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, US socialism is "maybe blakk people should be able to get housing for the same prices as whites"


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
do you understand socialism?


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
No i dont


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris will probably be AG if a democrat wins


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
read above


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is scary


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very.


[13-Sep-19 06:49 PM] ononim#8141
"Govremenet does stuff" is not a criteria for "socialism"


[13-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't's job is to provide services people need where there is a large positive externality that profit motive wouldn't feel.


[13-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Education, the military, healthcare, firefighting, research, space exploration, etc.


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism calls for applying this more broadly.


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism prefers it be narrower.


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I can understand


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
US socialism focuses primarily on enslaving capitalism


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
rather than overwriting it.


[13-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause unchained, capitalism leads to massive inequalities.


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Ok


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And those inequalities mean political problems, a company can "buy" a senator.


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So how would i survive


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh...same as normal, but now with healthcare funded by taxes, so less of our GDP is spent on it.


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if politicians were transparent. they;d be wearing nascar jackets and their podiums would look liek race cars


[13-Sep-19 06:52 PM] ononim#8141
>US socialism focuses primarily on enslaving capitalism


[13-Sep-19 06:53 PM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie that's social democracy not socialism


[13-Sep-19 06:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about me in the work field?


[13-Sep-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
US socialism is social democracy but with a strong focus on solving inequality


[13-Sep-19 06:53 PM] ononim#8141
By doing work?


[13-Sep-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the work field, you would hav more rights


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than "at will employment", where you can be fired for liking furry porn at any time because the boss doesn't like that you believe different things.


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about college


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes, religious discrimination is protected against...in theory.


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, a boss can find an excuse, because in much of the US, firing someone doesn't need a particular reason.


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, college falls under education


[13-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
and access to education is like #3 on the list of top things to improve equality


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
so it would of course be free.


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
#1 is access to transportation btw


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] ononim#8141
US education system is atrocious


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We need more buses and trains.


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yes we do


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] ononim#8141
Oh ye, you need it


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my town needs fucking busses


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant get anywhere


[13-Sep-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South is in large part having trouble because it has like no buses or trains anywhere.


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
What about cars


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Do we need to get rid of them


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cars are less efficient than buses or trains, by a ridiculous amount.


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
cars need to go away


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cars are a fucking nuisance


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are useful in some amount, but they've screwed up our urban planning as they make everything super spread-out.


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
So that means i have to walk


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
There need to be less cars but not even because socialism


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also they are ridiculously personally expensive.


[13-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You can be fired for liking furry porn at any time"


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walk to the bus station, possibly.


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
it means you need to take the bus or the train


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never thought I'd see that in here


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] ononim#8141
but because they're wastefull and shit in big cities


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also lead cities to build less sidewalks because that makes it more convenient to buy a car


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of city space is just parking.


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also suburbs largely exist due to cars.


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes everything further away.


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes walking harder


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yeah but i like to have q personal vehicle


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and makes it harder to get services to people


[13-Sep-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live out in the rural county a few miles outside of the town, i need some form of transport


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd also like to have a personal supercomputer


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone having their own individual vehicle dozens of times their size isn't a good idea.


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
You have to recognize that some (I would even say many) _personal_ goals are actively detrimental to society at large


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
in some situations it's called the tragedy of the commons


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yeah but why do i have to pay taxes on a bus where i can have a car


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
There's a difference in living in far away rural area or in the city or town


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

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The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users, acting independently according to their own self-interest, behave contrary to the common good of all users, by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action. Th...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Cows_on_Selsley_Common_-_geograph.org.uk_-_192472.jpg


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Well gas


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buses are extremely cheap compared to cars.


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda) bicycle/motoroller/bike/moped


[13-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
you have to pay taxes on your car too


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cars make all of those an issue


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] ononim#8141
Because you have to pay to use it too and also it takes more space and pultes more


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Yeah i can see it


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] "Tragedy of COmmons" is bonkers


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And other hidden taxes as such as insurance, srrvice etc


[13-Sep-19 06:59 PM] ononim#8141
And real tragedy was what British landlords and lawmakers did to them


[13-Sep-19 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
Hold one let me search how's the term is spelled in english


[13-Sep-19 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
Enclosure


[13-Sep-19 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway, ToC happens WHEN it's used not to just live off it but in pursuit of proffit and ever greater proffit (aka Capitalism modus operandi) which is obviously unsustainble


[13-Sep-19 07:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Up to which degree?


[13-Sep-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A lot of drivers are weirdly unfriendly to bikes, motorcycles, and scooters


[13-Sep-19 07:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because bikers like to take chances and nake driver's life difficult


[13-Sep-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america needs it;s road system overhauld to fit bikes and such in


[13-Sep-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there isn't enough room for them and cars to share and it;s making it difficult for everyone


[13-Sep-19 07:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Here (not usa), bikers are at greater advantage over cars in terms of traffic jams, but their life is way harder due to dangerous preconditions


[13-Sep-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
roads here are basically built for only cars, people use the smaller transports but the speed limits, and crowding puts them at a disadvantage not to mention the road side farm ditches


[13-Sep-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the road side farm ditches are a major issue for bikers as well because it means that attmepting to stay behind the white line out of cars way puts them at risk


[13-Sep-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/thousands-of-poor-patients-face-lawsuits-from-nonprofit-hospitals-that-trap-them-in-debt

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Thousands of Poor Patients Face Lawsuits From Nonprofit Hospitals ...
Across the country, low-income patients are overcoming stigmas surrounding poverty to speak out about nonprofit hospitals that sue them. Federal officials are noticing. Help us keep the pressure on.
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[13-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Another injustice


[13-Sep-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/12/california-private-prison-ban-immigration-ice

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California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers
Bill removes profit motive from incarceration and marks latest clash in state’s battle with Trump over treatment of immigrants
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[13-Sep-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
that's huge


[13-Sep-19 08:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
where do all the prisoners go?


[13-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
most of them have already been transferred to state-run facilities


[13-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
according to the article


[13-Sep-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
it was originally planned on having them close slowly one by one as the contracts expire, with the last one set to expire in 2023


[13-Sep-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
but the company that runs 4 of the 5 private prisons (and 2 of the 4 ICE detention centers) has been pushing so hard to circumvent this law that it fucked itself over and might be closing all of its prisons next year (the year that their ICE detention center contracts expire)


[13-Sep-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the writer of the bill amended it after all this lobbying by geo group (the private prison company) to include the ICE detention centers because geo group was lobbying so hard to get around the law


[13-Sep-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/goodbyecomputer/status/1172308899212324864?s=19

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joe biden is the bethesda game of human beings
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[13-Sep-19 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that biden's eye started bleeding in the middle of a town hall


[13-Sep-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/09/biden-eye-blood.jpg

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[13-Sep-19 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden is reverse Sans


[13-Sep-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His eye glows red instead of blue


[13-Sep-19 08:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Red eye on FOX lets talk about Red eye on Biden. Red like communism?


[13-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, california banning private prisons will have a large knock-on effect that'll lead to other states doing the same


[13-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
eventually, only the republican states will have private prisons


[13-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
and then we can have civil war 2.0 when a president is inaugurated that pushes to ban private prisons on the federal level


[13-Sep-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South reacting poorly to a possible ban on forced labor for non-whites? Surely not!


[13-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/beto-orourke-death-threat-debate-pledge-take-assault-style-weapons.html

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Texas Lawmaker Issues Death Threat to Beto O’Rourke After Debate...
"My AR is ready for you … " the Texas state representative tweeted at the presidential candidate.
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[13-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that beto just killed his candidacy


[13-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
because even democrats don't want their guns taken away


[13-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
for no good reason, anyway


[13-Sep-19 08:57 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah, Beto pretty much just threw away any bipartisan appeal with that line


[13-Sep-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/13/trump-foreign-corruption-lawsuit-1494571

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Appeals court revives foreign corruption suit against Trump
The ruling resurrects the first lawsuit President Donald Trump faced over claims that his business dealings violated the Constitution’s emoluments clause.
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[13-Sep-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[13-Sep-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
> “While it is certainly possible that these lawsuits are fueled in part by political motivations, we do not understand the significance of that fact,” wrote Leval, joined by Judge Christopher Droney. “While the existence of a political motivation for a lawsuit does not supply standing, nor does it defeat standing. … Whether a lawsuit has political motivations is irrelevant to these determinative issues.”


[13-Sep-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking


[13-Sep-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ekbmr8b43cm31.jpg

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[13-Sep-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and totally not because ou call yourself the aryan state


[13-Sep-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope totally not


[13-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/09/13/russian-navalny-supporter-uses-drone-save-information-during-police-raids/2311048001/

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Thanks to a drone, Russian activist saves sensitive hard drive rig...
A supporter of Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny said he saved sensitive information by using a drone as security services raided his office
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[13-Sep-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
> A supporter of Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny said Friday he used a drone to spirit off a sensitive computer hard drive for safe keeping as Russian security services raided his Siberian office.


[13-Sep-19 09:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ban all drones :PepeRage:

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[13-Sep-19 09:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Another reason governments will want to restrict drones.


[13-Sep-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c38c03f4486247c3a7ead9289ccebc64

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Missouri investigation: 12 ex-clergy could face prosecution
ST. LOUIS (AP) — Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt on Friday referred 12 former priests for potential criminal prosecution but stopped short of recommending charges against any top church...
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[13-Sep-19 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20859034/ectopic-pregnancy-abortion-federalist-intrauterine-ohio-surgery

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This life-threatening pregnancy complication is the next frontier ...
Ectopic pregnancies can be deadly if left untreated. But abortion opponents are telling another story.
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[13-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thank you Digibrony


[13-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Aka Loli-obsessed John Lennon


[13-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/sep/13/greta-thunberg-climate-crisis-protest-white-house-donald-trump-live-news?page=with:block-5d7bf56d8f08f9df5bdd4164#block-5d7bf56d8f08f9df5bdd4164

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Trump reportedly calls Egypt's president his 'favorite dictator' ...
President called out ‘Where’s my favorite dictator?’ over a gathering of US and Egyptian officials, Wall Street Journal reports
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[13-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in a loud voice: ‘Where’s my favorite dictator?’ Several people who were in the room at the time said they heard the question.

The witnesses said they believed the president made the comment jokingly, but said his question was met by a stunned silence.`


[14-Sep-19 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh boy does that president love his jokes


[14-Sep-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
it was a joke, says person who never jokes


[14-Sep-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/GI6PYij

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Damn shots fired
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[14-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/n-y-ag-we-found-1-billion-sackler-wire-transfers-n1054401

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N.Y. officials: We found $1 billion in Sackler family wire transfers
The N.Y. attorney general said the owners of Oxycontin-maker Purdue Pharma "continue to lowball victims" in suits seeking billions over the opioid crisis.
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[14-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[14-Sep-19 04:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/NateRosenblatt/status/1172691981774000128?s=19

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@thestevennabil Another video from #Buqayq compiled today, supposedly. https://t.co/nFQWL7GblB
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[14-Sep-19 04:50 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/12/self-immolation-highlights-controversy-over-cultural-rights-russia

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Self-Immolation Highlights Controversy over Cultural Rights in Russia
On 10 September, a 79-year-old sociologist, Albert Razin, picketed the local parliament in Izhevsk, the capital of western Russia’s Udmurt Republic. Razin held a placard reading “Do I have a motherland?” and a quote from a well-known Soviet Avar poet, Rasul Gamzatov: ...
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[14-Sep-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/13/trump-blames-led-lightbulbs-fo.html

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Trump blames LED lightbulbs for making him look orange
Trump wants to roll back regulations that promote low-power light bulbs, even though at this point the industry has moved on and isn’t likely to do much in the way of modernizing incandescent…
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[14-Sep-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-i-look-orange-so-do-you-because-energy-efficient-n1054021

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Trump: I look orange, but so do you
"The light is the worst," Trump said. His administration earlier this month announced it would roll back regulations for increased energy efficiency.
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[14-Sep-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
apparently trump has decided he wants to blame LED lightbulbs for his orange hue


[14-Sep-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the sun is a deadly laser


[14-Sep-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that must be why he still looks orange when he goes outside


[14-Sep-19 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But hey, if we're talking about skin tone in photos, lemme dig this one up from the archives https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2017/05/15/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russians-us-officials-say/trump-lavrov2.jpg

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[14-Sep-19 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really doubt it's the LEDs when you can set the camera's white balance by the bloated, drowned flesh of the man next to him


[14-Sep-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/us-to-leave-global-postal-union-next-month

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U.S. to leave global postal union next month barring last-minute a...
USPS' impending exit from Universal Postal Union could send international air parcel rates soaring
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[14-Sep-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Trump is mad that China can cheaply send mail to the US


[14-Sep-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
because of international regulation that makes countries pay postage based largely on how developed they are to counterbalance inequalities in economic development


[14-Sep-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So now we're all going to pay SHITTONS for international shipping/postage.


[14-Sep-19 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
rip e-packet delivery I guess


[14-Sep-19 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though those tend to ship via freight, not air, right?


[14-Sep-19 06:48 AM] byte[]#2610
goodbye cheap amazon shit


[14-Sep-19 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's hard to say if amazon will feel the effects as harsh as others. Most of the chinesium retailers there get stuff in bulk from china, and from there it goes straight into Amazon's warehouse system


[14-Sep-19 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice, as if international stuff wasnt already expensive...


[14-Sep-19 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how this will effect foreign wholesale sites that aren;t amazon


[14-Sep-19 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-suspend-parliament-brexit-citizens-arrest-len-mccluskey-a9100761.html

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Boris Johnson 'faces citizen's arrest' if he goes to Scotland, PM ...
'He'd best keep in his bunker somewhere in either Eton or Westminster'
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[14-Sep-19 01:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Gilesyb/status/1172776377512280065

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Nothing makes my lips curl with contempt harder than the way governments assume something is handled, "because they have a spreadsheet"

Except the mind-blown wonder with which the journalists report it
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[14-Sep-19 03:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:nerdmoon: 📊


[14-Sep-19 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d20f80188e3543bfb36d512df7777cd4

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Yemen drones hit Saudi oil sites, including key chokepoint
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Drones launched by Yemen's Houthi rebels attacked the world's largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia and another major oil field Saturday, sparking huge...
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[14-Sep-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/14/politics/poll-warren-sanders-health-insurance/index.html

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Warren and Sanders say Americans don't like their health insurance...
First things first: The theme song of the week is The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd.
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[14-Sep-19 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that CNN is both anti-warren and anti-bernie


[14-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stockholm syndrome on a national scale


[14-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-14/california-legislature-bill-trump-environmental-rollbacks

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California lawmakers vote to block Trump's environmental rollbacks...
California lawmakers passed Senate Bill 1, defying Gov. Newsom and pushing the state to adopt federal environmental and labor rules in place before Trump took office. Will Newsom sign it?
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[14-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/iQQm7C9

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Healthcare should be a right
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[14-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now here's the thing


[14-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
in terms of spending, we spend twice as much as a percent of GDP as most other countries


[14-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
For what the UK spends total, we spend twice, first on public, then on private.


[14-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
But what we spend on public doesn't cover very many people, it is very inefficient due to being hampered by the law in many ways, and covering fewer people than it could.


[14-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Logically, we could simply combine medicare, the VA, and medicaid into one program, and eliminate private insurance


[14-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
...without raising gov't spending **at all**


[14-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also because meds are bought by the artificially inflated prices private insurance forces


[14-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
so, who's gonna pay for it? We already are.


[14-Sep-19 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The US going to be paying into the UK too if things keep going the way they are. thanks Trump


[14-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
We already are spending that amount of money, we just need to make it be spent better.


[14-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey now, that's unfair, pwny...make sure to credit Theresa May and Boris Johnson and all the other shitheads in the UK who decided that their own rules on how to transport fish mean that they're under foreign occupation, and should switch to being an American colony.


[15-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/famed-mit-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-defends-epstein-victims-were-entirely-willing?source=tech&via=rss

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Renowned MIT Scientist Defends Epstein: Victims Were ‘Entirely W...
MIT bigwig Richard Stallman dismissed Epstein’s underage victims in emails and defended child pornography on his blog.
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[15-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, he's argued for legalizing necrophilia


[15-Sep-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how would that even work, is there like a waiver for the family to sign?


[15-Sep-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Yes, i;d like to plow your dead grandma. Can i please get your signiture ont he dotted line?"


[15-Sep-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/ice-issues-letter-american-public-raids-emotional-impact-1459136

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ICE has written a letter to the American public saying it knows th...
"The immediate and extreme impact an immigration enforcement action has on an individual and their family is not lost on our officers," the letter states.
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[15-Sep-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> in a comparison of ICE data from October 2016 through to June 2017 and the same period a year later (October 2017 to June 2018) the Associated Press found that ICE's arrest of noncriminals had increased by 66 percent, while arrests of criminals had increased only by 2 percent.
> Meanwhile, in a comparison of ICE deportation data from the same periods, AP found that there was a 174 percent increase of deportations of people without criminal convictions, while deportations of those with convictions rose nearly 13 percent.
> Despite that, ICE has maintained that its focus is on those who "pose the greatest threat to public safety and border security."


[15-Sep-19 12:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The greatest threat to public safety: law-abiding non-americans


[15-Sep-19 12:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[15-Sep-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So apparently Yang doesn't want a new SNL hire who called him a "Jew chink" to be fired.


[15-Sep-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would have said "Guess who's only getting $500 a month now!"

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[15-Sep-19 01:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yang is pretty chill it seems


[15-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`“I think that everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately. (Some people are ready earlier.)”`


[15-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude comes off as the libertarian "I'm not a pedophile, but" meme


[15-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dershowitz is the same.


[15-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tried to say there was no excuse for a 16 year old getting an abortion but not being able to consent


[15-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When do these people realize that there is not going to be change about this


[15-Sep-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Sep-19 01:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
>expecting honesty from Trump's campaign


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[15-Sep-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ItsRykard/status/1172426476848742402

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https://twitter.com/ItsRykard/status/1172426476848742402
Woke up this morning to know I’m the new face for the 2020 @realDonaldTrump campaign 🇺🇸 ?
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[15-Sep-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course the real hats you get from ordering will fall appart on contact with oxygen, but dont let that discourage you from observing this shopped hat!


[15-Sep-19 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49694516

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US and Brazil agree to Amazon development
Brazil's foreign minister also hit back at criticism over Brazil's handling of the Amazon fires.
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[15-Sep-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck earth i guess


[15-Sep-19 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/m6YpZIE

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The worst timeline
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[15-Sep-19 10:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Sep-19 01:53 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so does anyone know of actual any good things trump has done ?


[15-Sep-19 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really, anything good he;s ever done was isntantly undone by his next move


[15-Sep-19 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any lsits of good things he;s done are rich people praising him for fucking over trade deals and lettign them get away with much more


[15-Sep-19 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and googling the question just brings up condescending conservative posts


[15-Sep-19 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i;m not finding anything


[15-Sep-19 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most conservative headlines regardign the question is shit like "Relax NEVER TRUMPERS, Trump has done some fantastical things, you liberal jew cucks" *continues to list everything bad he;s ever done in a positive light*


[15-Sep-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-10-best-things-trump-has-done-in-2018/2018/12/31/a2de64b6-0d1b-11e9-84fc-d58c33d6c8c7_story.html this article does the same thing, it parades bad things he;s done around like they were good things


[15-Sep-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He stood by brett kavanaugh" well no shit, he;s the one who nominated him in the first place


[15-Sep-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/269744b35e16422fa746b0c1504ceb4f

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Iran dismisses US allegation it was behind Saudi oil attacks
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran denied on Sunday it was involved in Yemen rebel drone attacks the previous day that hit the world's biggest oil processing facility and an oil field in...
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[15-Sep-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Communist propaganda


[15-Sep-19 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Columnism


[15-Sep-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hey kid, if you do this job for me, i'll pay me $20 dollars. waddya say?

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[15-Sep-19 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/14/french-city-makes-its-buses-fr.html

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A year ago, the city of Dunkirk in France made its bus system entirely free — causing a boom in ridership, as well as a drop in car usage. In the year since, as France 24 notes, an academic s…
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[15-Sep-19 07:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds like communism but OK.


[15-Sep-19 07:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile NYC is over here trying to tackle the problem of fare evaders with all the urgency of ICE


[15-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav free buses here, and in Bozeman


[15-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Comes with being blue island non-capitals in a red state I think.


[15-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Berlin is terrible


[15-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A bus ticket is 5 bucks, lasts one hour, one direction only


[15-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They heavily "incentivize" getting people to pay for monthy/yearly tickets, which are only cheaper if you take like 4 trips a day every day including weekends


[15-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I guess people are confused as to why there are so many escooters and bike-shares littered across every street


[15-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[15-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Treascair#7785
I'm noticing the e-scooters around me are VERY well appreciated, so that goes a long way.


[15-Sep-19 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile I just want public transport here, period.


[15-Sep-19 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Could work it into the general state road repair program as a way to divert road traffic to something else and redistribute the rider-driver stress. But I haven't heard any details or plans on that.


[15-Sep-19 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even if expanding busing was implemented it would be an inexpensive improvement, if because buses at least use pre-built infrastructure instead of having to lay down new rails.


[15-Sep-19 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
But if you're going to tear up roads eventually anyways why not spend a bit extra for the added infrastructure to expand capacity. Run it as a public service without profit incentive so you lower the rider cost.


[15-Sep-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/appabend451/status/1160531053024432128

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[15-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine my utter shock that he'd be a Star Citizen rube


[15-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
OAG comments have some of the most aggressive people I've ever seen


[15-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If he's so against censorship why does he censor himself twice?

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[15-Sep-19 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[15-Sep-19 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Why are only 3 of the 4 Nbombs highlighted? especially the last one being "slave worthy"


[15-Sep-19 09:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
they probably missed it


[15-Sep-19 09:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
3 is bad enough anyway


[15-Sep-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy who runs OAG who posted that comment is black too

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[15-Sep-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, he has the word pass, so he could be speaking on behalf of someone :twismug:


[15-Sep-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People guessed it because he used every word under the sun but the gamer word and it was odd


[15-Sep-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then people did some research and found him in pictures with his family


[15-Sep-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yes, he says a lot of shit but being an unironic Star Citizen believer is among his worst stance


[15-Sep-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
they missed highlighting a "stupid, slave-worthy niggers" at the bottom of the first image on that one angry gamer post


[15-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ this guy is racist as fuck


[15-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
has he been doxxed yet?


[15-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
wait, he's fucking black too?


[15-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
why the hell is this guy so racist


[15-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
is he just a troll or something?


[15-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a cumbrain.


[15-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally does not give a shit about video games unless he can see boobs and ass.


[15-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/GrumpyCatterman/status/1160682572944424961

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Cozy Gamer Gimp (@GrumpyCatterman)
https://twitter.com/GrumpyCatterman/status/1160682572944424961
@appabend451 The hell is wrong with this guy? I appreciate his articles on censorship and SJW crap, but he's fought monsters for too long and has become one.
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[15-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, don't you know?


[15-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to societal views of who is on top


[15-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
those in the groups on bottom will often selfishly put down the whole group to try to buddy-buddy with the groups on top to get ahead.


[15-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BlueTyphoon4/status/1160977380711776256

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https://twitter.com/BlueTyphoon4/status/1160977380711776256
@GrumpyCatterman @LiteraryGames91 @appabend451 Yeah, most Anti SJW’s nowadays are summed up by this quote perfectly, especially after people realized that SJW’s don’t have much power over… anything really, these days
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[15-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why there are so many hispanics in the Republican party right now


[15-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho as a whole they vote Democrat, they don't want Bernie


[15-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want Hillary.


[15-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Biden.


[15-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want someone who will represent their interests alongside those of outright white nationalists, for a stable peace of slow, grinding progress.


[15-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Grand political statement, but this guy really does just care about T&A.


[15-Sep-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a normal universe, Beto would be a Republican.


[15-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, the person who made it convention to use "he" for a person of unknown gender in pronouns was a woman


[15-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why this shit persists so easily


[15-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people who are put down don't become crusaders against their oppression.


[15-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They become servants of it.


[15-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's easier.


[15-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that's not a full explanation.


[15-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Him not caring politically doesn't say why he's on this side of things.


[15-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He clearly has fallen in with alt-right views due to immersion.


[15-Sep-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And is wanting to put down others as SLAVEWORTHY to imply he is not such.


[15-Sep-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
As if he would be spared if we returned to enslaving blakks.


[15-Sep-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Kill all the degenerates, but I won't ever get killed"


[15-Sep-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I guess yeah, he does really dislike Islam as well


[15-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[15-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So anthropologists/archeologists find this a lot with human sacrifice


[15-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
sacrifices are generally from a group that is considered lesser, not random


[15-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And are done in part to reinforce that group being lesser.


[15-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
On a personal level, it makes sense to not say "why should we kill my cousin?!!!", because you'd be next.


[15-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
This divides the group put down against itself.


[15-Sep-19 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Should watch Electric Dream's "Kill All Others" episode


[15-Sep-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Dreams_(2017_TV_series)

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Electric Dreams (2017 TV series)
Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams, or simply Electric Dreams, is a science fiction television anthology series based on the works of Philip K. Dick. The series consists of ten standalone 50-minute episodes based on Dick's work, written by British and American writers. It premi...
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[15-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
it's basically Black Mirror, but for Amazon


[15-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These Dark Enlightenment types are the kind of people who would relish being in Vault 11


[15-Sep-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dark Enlightenment is a lot of words to just say "A new Louis XIV is the ideal government"


[15-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I think we should stop remembering certain kings by their name and more by whatever bonkers shit they represented, pushed, or were responsible for


[15-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Too many damn Felipes and Charles


[15-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when there's over a dozen of the shits.


[15-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
KING GEORGE


[15-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
WHICH ONE????


[15-Sep-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sad, Bad, Mad, Fat


[15-Sep-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I thought there were 6 of them


[15-Sep-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, there were 6


[15-Sep-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're going to need more half-rhyme words, Its.


[15-Sep-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
"dead" could be used to describe all of them


[15-Sep-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.


[15-Sep-19 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Deep


[15-Sep-19 10:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1172941732838891520

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https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1172941732838891520
Reactionaries: Muslims are oppressive savages who control their women & force them to cover themselves!

*a woman shakes her ass*

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[15-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mother/whore complex all the way.


[15-Sep-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the fuck is Chong


[15-Sep-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I keep seeing caps of tweets from them or mentions and the like


[15-Sep-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But why are they relevant


[15-Sep-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
From a site called GamerGate wiki: "Ian Miles Cheong is the Editor in Chief at Gameranx and self-described turbo-feminist, known for his Reddit scandal in 2012 as well as..."


[15-Sep-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
net drama whore, then


[15-Sep-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alt-right slut


[15-Sep-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
who tried to jump on tumblrite bandwagon


[15-Sep-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
"hitler is my idol" -> WOMEN MATTER


[15-Sep-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
not paraphrasing


[15-Sep-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is amazing just how deep the shit runs.


[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Why we must liquidate Gamers as a group || https://twitter.com/appabend451/status/1160531053024432128 ||

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[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Spoilered for racism


[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that one was linked already lol


[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
oof


[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
without the spoiler


[15-Sep-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
they missed outlining one at the bottom of that first image though


[15-Sep-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
||"you stupid, slave-worthy niggers"||


[15-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's a guy whose only political ideals are "well whatever those alt righters that'd hav me lynched first say, surely they will choose to lynch me last"


[15-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4e6aeYTRds

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Mehmet Canbaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4e6aeYTRds
Robbie Williams - Supreme
Robbie Williams - Supreme looks like karaoke
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[15-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, how do you feel about this being a theme song for millennials


[15-Sep-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlBnJ0egT_4

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Angelicahov
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Ready To Die - Andrew WK ((with Lyrics))
Ready To Die - Andrew WK Here's the lyrics: This is your time to pay, This is your judgement day, We made a sacrifice, And now we get to take your life. We s...
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[15-Sep-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
and this one being a theme song for gen Z


[15-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus, didn't know Robbie Williams was so emo


[15-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just remember him from that weird vore music video


[15-Sep-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rock DJ? Wew, that is why you shouldn't do PCP, kids.


[15-Sep-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow indifferent


[15-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
I just figured that millennials are the more depressed side of the activists, while gen Z are the more crazy side of the activists based upon that thing you linked awhile ago about generation Z going to either save or destroy the country


[15-Sep-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/gen-z-already-owes-4300-dollars-in-debt-and-cant-even-legally-drink.html

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Members of Gen Z already owe an average of $4,343 each and they ca...
Young adults aged 16 to 20, or "Generation Z," have accumulated over $4,000 in debt on average, according to a new survey by Charles Schwab.
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[15-Sep-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[15-Sep-19 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
> Those who are part of Generation Z (aged 16-20) already have an average debt of $4,343, according to a new survey by Charles Schwab of 2,000 young adults. Meanwhile, young millennials (aged 21-25) have a whopping $11,663 on average in total debt so far, including student loans and credit card debt.


[15-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
it's a year out of date, but still

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[15-Sep-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shit is super fucked


[15-Sep-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure how i dont have debt except that i got very lucky with my college financial aid application


[15-Sep-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said, if i fall into any form of debt i'll likely end up homeless


[15-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kenpenders/status/803521132519301120?lang=en

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As promised, here's the drawing I did as requested for the winning Sonic fan who voted on election day.
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[15-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
that tweet only has 36 retweets and 61 likes


[15-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was totally an anti Trump political statement, haha


[15-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
don't really understand why this is considered "blowing up"


[16-Sep-19 12:02 AM] ononim#8141
It isn't


[16-Sep-19 12:02 AM] ononim#8141
But it's oldie but goldie


[16-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/2cBCxfT

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Argh!
https://i.imgur.com/nwiXr5fh.jpg


[16-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Linked in the comments of the above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYxZfksAyco

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30 Years of Speeches
Watch this amazing video that a talented volunteer put together showing 30 years of speeches. Video by EJH
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[16-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thumb, of a speech in 1988, is about how the rising cost of college is a problem that is destroying young people's ability to get a good education.


[16-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
my mom says bernie is a socialist who wants to turn the US into 1984


[16-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
and completely disregards all of his integrity and honesty as a cover for his insidious socialist ideals

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[16-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be slightly fair, right after is a speech about how Scandinavian socialism is probably a good idea.


[16-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's social democracy tho


[16-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But your mom of course would say that Scandinavian socialism isn't true socialism.


[16-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/otBeQ0r

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What's the most absurd medical bill you've received?
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[16-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie should really ride on Bidens stumbles


[16-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that what makes bernie so likeable also makes him somewhat bad at being cutthroat enough to do that sort of shit


[16-Sep-19 12:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Too nice to get dirty.


[16-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he's just angry all the time and that's the appeal


[16-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
but he's honest


[16-Sep-19 12:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
hes right to be


[16-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if you asked him his favorite movie or something like that he'd be like "Why are you wasting my time asking questions like that when the top one percent..."


[16-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that depends on the context


[16-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
like if he's at a debate or town hall or whatever and he's getting asked that question, of course


[16-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
but if he's just randomly asked that question out in the streets afterwards, I can see him answering it


[16-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel when Fox cut away from him talking about how bad Big Pharma was


[16-Sep-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How the fuck has Bernie managed to look like he's 80 for over 30 years


[16-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
fighting capitalism is a stressful job


[16-Sep-19 01:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Actually investing yourself in Politics will do that to you.


[16-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's aged much more gracefully than Biden.


[16-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bernie has that springy old man look


[16-Sep-19 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You know, keeps dogs and tries to chase his grandkids around


[16-Sep-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden just feels old


[16-Sep-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No old man wit, no old man wisdom, no old man strength, just old with a big smile and pressed suit


[16-Sep-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden literally has senile dementia and it gets worse every time he opens his mouth


[16-Sep-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
open foot, insert face

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[16-Sep-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden has all the charm of a steam pressed suit worn at a business meeting


[16-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1173368423381962752

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1173368423381962752
Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!
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[16-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This where we're at


[16-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The president of the US, plainly stating that the US is at the command of Saudi Arabia


[16-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the moron thinks this is "being tough"


[16-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/Infantry0300/status/1173378003994337280

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@realDonaldTrump No one believes you
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[16-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/Gdad1/status/1173374428736118784

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https://twitter.com/Gdad1/status/1173374428736118784
@realDonaldTrump So you're awaiting orders?? #Sad #Pathetic
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[16-Sep-19 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I know how the US has been playing market politics with oil prices to fuck over Russia for years


[16-Sep-19 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But to play it out like this, so poorly, like a damn clown


[16-Sep-19 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Christ


[16-Sep-19 02:05 AM] Mikey#7286
Donald J Trump, forever known as the president that bent over for cruel dictators and bitch to oil supplying countries


[16-Sep-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to saudi america!


[16-Sep-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was gonna say "Oh we don't have people in the ruling family being weird online about anime" but then I remembered Barron.


[16-Sep-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's really the only one I feel bad for, to a smaller degree Melania


[16-Sep-19 02:27 AM] ononim#8141
~~same~~


[16-Sep-19 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/05/arizona-teachers-filipino-schools-low-pay

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The job Americans won't take: Arizona looks to Philippines to fill...
College-educated Americans are increasingly uninterested in teaching jobs – so Arizona has begun to recruit from abroad
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[16-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
"America First" has always actually been "America doing whatever shit some fascist assholes want in order to hurt people it doesn't like"


[16-Sep-19 03:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Didn't America first start with some guy who was pro nazi? back in the war times


[16-Sep-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
first start what? first start being "america first"?


[16-Sep-19 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
FDR wasn't ever pro-nazi


[16-Sep-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think in world war 2 we were trying to stay out of it and mind our own business until pearl harbor happened


[16-Sep-19 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
FDR was trying to be isolationist


[16-Sep-19 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but I wouldn't call that pro-Nazi at all


[16-Sep-19 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
when WW2 broke out FDR helped out Britain


[16-Sep-19 03:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Lend-Lease Act


[16-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Sep-19 03:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It wasn't really pro-Nazi, but it definitely wasn't a strong anti-Nazi stance


[16-Sep-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s basically the "looking out for numero uno" stance


[16-Sep-19 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
America First is a KKK slogan


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well it didn't used to be inherently KKK


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as it benefits them in the short term, they take it and run with it for miles


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
It was


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
KKK was one of the ones that adopted it


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
doesn't mean it started from them


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s up there with "Don;t like it, leave" as far as slogans go


[16-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The problem is that at these scales, "us first" invariably isn't just "my family and friends first", but the creation of artificial bollocks distinctions in order to un-person others to make them less valuable


[16-Sep-19 03:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's definitely a selfish standpoint


[16-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Humans are simply not made to understand societies of over a few thousand members


[16-Sep-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah we;re more about smaller tribes of 100 or less


[16-Sep-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why us vs. them is an effective manipulation strategy


[16-Sep-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it plays on that tribal instinct


[16-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A few thousand is still fine


[16-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There'll be minor factionalization, but not depersoning


[16-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The scales we're at now, people have long stopped seeing other people as being real


[16-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just pictures, pixels, sounds, words, ephemera


[16-Sep-19 03:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hence the "you're all bots just because you disagree with me" mentality


[16-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You read an article about 120 people dying from bombings somewhere in the middle east, and there is /zero/ emotional effect


[16-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You understand it's terrible, you can emphasize, but the immediate impact doesn't exist, it's just a number, news


[16-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're too far away, too different, they're not really "people"


[16-Sep-19 03:44 AM] illumnious#7938
PLENTY OF CAPS https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1173368574406250496

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PLENTY OF OIL!
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[16-Sep-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
PLENTY OF SAUDI AMERICA!


[16-Sep-19 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Depersoning also makes it even easier to become numb to all this horrible news


[16-Sep-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more shootings makes it a statistic instead of multiple real people unless you were there or are related.


[16-Sep-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more homeless makes the homeless sound liek weird mythical animals isntead of real, broken people without homes


[16-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you do a survey, saying "homosexuals" vs "gay people" causes very different results.


[16-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Humanization is a very important factor.


[16-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess it may also be evolutionary


[16-Sep-19 03:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it definitely is


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can you imagine feeling the pain of a thousand friends dying every day?


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe it's a direct counter to the instincts toward child care.


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
evolutionarily speaking (as y'all have said already lol) humans are still adapted for societies in the hundreds/thousands


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've nearly broken a few times from just one, barely functioned for days


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, we hav a hardwired response to find things similar to our children "cute" and therefore care for them.


[16-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
However


[16-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our adult males, and animals we must eat, resemble our children somewhat.


[16-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, there must be a way to deactivate the response conditionally.


[16-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to deal with rival males, and hunt.


[16-Sep-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Simply find a way to no longer consider the target resembling of your own kin, bam, kill and eat them.


[16-Sep-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on the flip side dehuminization also stops us from seeing history repeating right in front of us. "The german nazis were monsters not humans, We vanquished them and they can never come back" So we ignore all the warning signs and don;t help those who need it before it;s too late.


[16-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well no fukking duh


[16-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
evolutionary psychology doesn't care about its effects


[16-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as it makes you produce more offspring, it works


[16-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nature is evil, it's on us to fight it.


[16-Sep-19 04:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yYecoZKtz0

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Democrats DEMAND Brett Kavanaugh Be Impeached Amid ANOTHER 30 year...
Democrats DEMAND Brett Kavanaugh Be Impeached Amid ANOTHER 30 year Old Allegation, It Will Never END. Nearly a year later and we are presented with another o...
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[16-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/15/us/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-trump-impeach.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/15/us/brett-kavanaugh-allegations-trump-impeach.html
Calls for Kavanaugh’s Impeachment Come Amid New Misconduct Alleg...
President Trump and other Republicans defended the Supreme Court justice after a New York Times essay described a previously unreported story about him as a student at Yale.
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[16-Sep-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calls for impeachment from presidential hopefuls, and from congresspeople in general, are a bit different, note.


[16-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former are clearly for public support, while the latter carry weight.


[16-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the former variety.


[16-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, it's a nothingburger.


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
exactly. why are they beating a dead horse


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, no, you're not getting it.


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're *presidential candidates*


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
even the victim in this case denies that it happen


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying "so and so should such and such" is required, demanded of them, as candidates.


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to take a poltical stance on it.


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, impeachment and removal are different.


[16-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment is a trial.


[16-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removal is the possible result.


[16-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are calling for the former.


[16-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Implicitly, they are calling for a thorough investigation and trial.


[16-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a nothingburger, as in the entire story is a waste of time.


[16-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The allegations may not be true, the misconduct by the FBI is worrying but nothing really new, and the stances taken by presidential candidates are meaningless vaguery.


[16-Sep-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Sep-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you beat a dead horse and it gets bakk up as a zombie


[16-Sep-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
you might want to beat it some more


[16-Sep-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the allegations don't amount to much right now, but they're a reason to investigate.


[16-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying "we already did enuff on this", when these are *allegations of a different crime at a different time with different people* is highly disingenuous.


[16-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you giv up on X person doing Y thing to Z person at alpha time, you don't categorically rule X innocent for all time on Y thing.


[16-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were worth a 2020 Democrat winner packing the Court.


[16-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could've actually committed a crime to Z2 person at alpha+beta time


[16-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders or Warren would absolutely do it.


[16-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though to be fair, the idea that SCOTUS justices have no judicial discipline that is applicable to them is absurd


[16-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this harkens bakk to a general conservative tactic: Saying the left "lost" and should "just get over it", when the left actually has real concerns about another unresolved situation.


[16-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Finding more information pointing to a person having done something else is **absolutely** a reason to investigate further.


[16-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't fukking matter what else was investigated in the past or its conclusions.


[16-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kavanaugh likely perjured himself in front of Congress.


[16-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, this is an underpinning of our criminal justice system


[16-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't use someone's overall behavior to say that they are guilty or innocent


[16-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas basically provided the roadmap on how to fight this stuff as a SCOTUS justice


[16-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't go "oh he's a good buy, he clearly didn't do X"


[16-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just perjur yourself to avoid any sense of impropriety


[16-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Justice Pubic Hair Diet Coke


[16-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone points to you talking about binge-drinking, in plain slang, say it's actually farting, and if they want to talk about it, they're just weird.


[16-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Chewbacca defense.


[16-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ladies and gentleman, I maintain that "threesome" actually means holding hands in a triangle.


[16-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that "slipping a special something in her drink" actually means I was gonna feed her fish at her house.


[16-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans: MAKES SENSE TO ME


[16-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just imagining the revenge Democrats will take in 2020 if they take the White House


[16-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine Sanders every day implying that Gorsuch and Kavanaugh should be removed


[16-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As president


[16-Sep-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly: https://abovethelaw.com/2019/09/judge-gets-slapped-back-over-brett-kavanaugh-protest/

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Judge Gets Slapped Back Over Brett Kavanaugh Protest
Sorry, not sorry.
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[16-Sep-19 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjT1ogCKn80
(looks like Tommy got released!)

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Tommy Robinson sits down with Ezra Levant: What happened in prison...
http://www.PrisonReports.com http://bit.ly/2khz7Mh On last night's episode of The Ezra Levant Show, we filmed an exclusive interview with Tommy Robinson afte...
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[16-Sep-19 11:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Sep-19 02:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That would look really bad.


[16-Sep-19 02:49 PM] byte[]#2610
republicans don't care about looking bad


[16-Sep-19 02:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the worse they look (to democrats) the better they look (to their base)


[16-Sep-19 02:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then Sotomayor sues someone for calling her a slur or accusing her of being political


[16-Sep-19 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter to them


[16-Sep-19 03:02 PM] ononim#8141 (pinned)
https://imgur.com/uL9hhUg

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'Alt Right' spreading how to convert 'normies' to their side
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[16-Sep-19 03:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thanks for pushing normal people even further to the right


[16-Sep-19 03:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who hate fake news tend to just not like fake news they didn't make


[16-Sep-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
the other thing about that post is that it's not symmetric


[16-Sep-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't do those things as left-wing offense


[16-Sep-19 03:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pointing out how there's parts of the right that do this actually will push people left


[16-Sep-19 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
not enough


[16-Sep-19 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[16-Sep-19 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Sep-19 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlock the car, i want to get out


[16-Sep-19 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/828d1a2c67314eeea5bdf3b6688a05d8

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The Latest: Johnson says he can see 'shape' of a Brexit deal
LUXEMBOURG (AP) — The Latest on Brexit (all times local): 5 p.m. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said after a meeting with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker...
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[16-Sep-19 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the shape of brexit

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[16-Sep-19 06:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
As of maybe 11:20 or at the least sometime past 11 I became a legal handgun owner.


[16-Sep-19 06:20 PM] ononim#8141
Okay, now hand over your video games


[16-Sep-19 06:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Moland Abobo


[16-Sep-19 07:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1519701


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[16-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/11/jeffrey-epstein-seen-with-young-girls-getting-off-his-plane-in-2018.html

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Girls who appeared to be 11 to 12 seen with Jeffrey Epstein gettin...
Months before Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on child sex trafficking charges, the former friend of President Donald Trump and former President Bill Clinton was being investigated for possibly failing to disclose his international travel as required for sex offenders.
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[16-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Interesting detail, but how is it really important?


[16-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
We already know there's a mountain of evidence he did stuff with young girls.


[16-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-9-11-tweet-deleted-airplanes

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New York Times deletes 9/11 tweet after backlash: 'Airplanes took ...
The New York Times caused an uproar on Wednesday with a now-deleted tweet that said “airplanes” were responsible for the tragic events of September 11, 2001.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/08/29/694940094001_6079384595001_6079401877001-vs.jpg


[16-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Oatsy#4039

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[16-Sep-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
now that's stupid


[16-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
SENTIENT PLANE AI DID NINE ELEVEN


[16-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
SKYNET WALKS AMONG US


[16-Sep-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/us/california-church-homeless-panhandling.html

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California Church Leaders Lured Homeless Into Forced Labor, U.S. Says
A dozen leaders of a California-based ministry have been accused of forcing vulnerable people to panhandle “for the financial benefit of the church leaders,” federal prosecutors said.
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[16-Sep-19 09:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"airplanes took aim" lmao 🤣


[16-Sep-19 09:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> But after arriving in El Centro, she was not allowed to call her father, could not leave without supervision and was ordered to read only the Bible and “not to discuss things of the world,” the authorities said.


[16-Sep-19 09:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I only ever hear about crazy christians in the US


[16-Sep-19 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like they wanted to become the next church of scientology


[17-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Oatsy#4039
Next?


[17-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Oatsy#4039
They were the prototype


[17-Sep-19 12:45 AM] Treascair#7785
ah.  Looks like the NY Times is no longer readable for me too.


[17-Sep-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I have a subscription


[17-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/16/politics/trump-saudi-oil-facility-attack-iran/index.html

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Trump says it looks like Iran was behind Saudi oil field attack
President Donald Trump told reporters Monday that "it's looking like" Iran was behind this weekend's attack on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia but suggested it was too early to say for sure. He also said he was "not looking to get into new conflict, but sometimes you have to."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190915081453-01-saudi-arabia-oil-field-satellite-super-tease.jpg


[17-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
trump's blaming iran for the attack


[17-Sep-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> not looking to get into new conflict


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants any excuse to go to war with them, so why the fuck not this one


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Probably because he already has several going on lol


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/16/nyregion/trump-tax-returns-cy-vance.html

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By Ben Protess and William K. Rashbaum
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/16/nyregion/trump-tax-returns-cy-vance.html
8 Years of Trump Tax Returns Are Subpoenaed by Manhattan D.A.
Investigators demanded the president’s personal and corporate tax returns as they examine hush money paid to Stormy Daniels.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/16/nyregion/16trumporg-promo/16trumporg-promo-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
soon, we'll have a convicted tax evader as president


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay, watch the justice department just yell "fuck you" and shove their heads int he sand isntead of co-operating


[17-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
yoshis rise up


[17-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
committing tax fraud is ok now


[17-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/377/677/719.jpg

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[17-Sep-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Sep-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
grande


[17-Sep-19 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/2341333001

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Teamsters won't deliver GM vehicles; Automaker says it has plenty ...
The Teamsters union is supporting the UAW strike against General Motors, meaning that Teamsters drivers won't be hauling GM vehicles.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/09/16/PDTF/edcb0c74-d92c-4cd3-ace8-9c146b297b61-Strike_091619_07_MW.jpg?crop=2399,1350,x0,y122&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[17-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
orly


[17-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gematsu.com/2019/09/hinomaruko-tgs-2019-teaser-trailer

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Sal Romano
https://gematsu.com/2019/09/hinomaruko-tgs-2019-teaser-trailer
Hinomaruko TGS 2019 teaser trailer - Gematsu
Publisher Pikii and developer Tamsoft have released the Tokyo Game Show 2019 teaser trailer for Hinomaruko, the newly announced action game about a girl fighting against giant mechs in a military world setting. Here is the premise, via the trailer: 2039 A.D. The lifeline of t...
https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Hinomaruko-PV_09-16-19.jpg


[17-Sep-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"2039 A.D. The lifeline of the Empire of Japan was likely to collapse. The country was devastated by the repeated defeat and frequent battles in the Great East Asian War, which spanned over 100 years.  Now, most of the country is occupied by enemy nations, and American and Soviet Union military forces are approaching the Imperial Capital, Tokyo. It was clear to everyone that the country’s downfall was just a matter of time. Until today…"


[17-Sep-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly the title translates to something like "Circle of the Sun Girl"


[17-Sep-19 02:47 AM] Oatsy#4039
之 is a weird one though


[17-Sep-19 02:48 AM] Oatsy#4039
Err, since title is 日之丸子


[17-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine how many war crimes you could do and deny in 100 years


[17-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Oatsy#4039
Imagine how much I could sleep


[17-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/zjmpInM

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Clever title about “cancel culture”
https://i.imgur.com/VWRJt8lh.jpg


[17-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz don't tell me Burr has become "problematic"


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I know "professional critics" bombed Chappelle's latest tour video thing


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chappelle had absolutely big-brained stances


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Metoo is what caused more restrictive abortion laws, don't you know?


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
lolwut


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Haven't watched it


[17-Sep-19 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He argues that because a woman can choose to have an abortion


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A man should be able to choose to refuse to pay child support


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, going by 99% positive public score vs ~30% professional critic score...


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"argues"


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not comedy


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a rantsona Youtuber IRL


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's all standup is now


[17-Sep-19 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not impressed by stand up comedy tbh


[17-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh if a woman did have the choice to get an abortion and the guy was always against having a kid, he shouldn't have to pay child support


[17-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is it's used to argue we shouldn't allow abortions.


[17-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's excuse like #25 from Republicans.


[17-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kid doesn't exist anymore with the abortion


[17-Sep-19 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, if Burr and Chapelle have not changed their stances at all for as long as we can remember, we might just do them a favor and forget them, then


[17-Sep-19 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Comedy can become obsolete


[17-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stand-up is


[17-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/RrOMB6G>
https://i.imgur.com/FcL9puo.jpg

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[17-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The meme really is real:


[17-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
has a list of posts from that twitter thread


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Google image search "smug man" and you can imagine it being the title screen to a Netflix comedy special entitled "Triggered"


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://brightonbulletin.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/stock-image-of-smug-ma_466.jpg?w=640

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[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Crow just admit you posted cringe and lost subscriber and then move on


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
uhh, what?


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do you agree with the meme you posted


[17-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
what meme?


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
the one about bill burr/dave chappelle?


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
I don't know them, so I can't comment


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then why did you post the meme


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like them both


[17-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
because I thought it was an interesting take and wanted to see what other people who knew about them thought


[17-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly if you get mad about anything they say you need to calm down


[17-Sep-19 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alright


[17-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's interesting that it might be that comedians are having a harder time with the same audience because the audience is just more aware of the topics that the comedians joke about now


[17-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/4C7aaj9.jpg

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[17-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
@Raptorshy


[17-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
delete america


[17-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
imagine being charged $18,000 just to be told you have kidney stones


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They definitely went to a specialist or the ER


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
also the bad reply comments on that post where I got that image from are cancerous <https://imgur.com/gallery/RrOMB6G>


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also fuck kidney stones


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Everything about them


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless they're rolling


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then it rocks


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*rimshot*


[17-Sep-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*audience laughs*


[17-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Making light of an illness that causes severe pain and may lead to death from urinary tract infections or internal bleeding is pretty fucked up


[17-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna have to screencap this so people are warned about what kind of sick stuff you find "funny"


[17-Sep-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[17-Sep-19 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao dying of cancer


[17-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/RrOMB6G/comment/1718388087>


[17-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Our medical system is broken. If you think making it "free" will fix anything, then you dont understand the problem. Or economics.


[17-Sep-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatives love throwing the word "economics" around like they know what it is, or as if it's a magic bullet to debunk all leftist rhethoric


[17-Sep-19 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It happens in my country too, neoliberals really enjoy gaslighting less educated left-leaning people with it


[17-Sep-19 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
no wnder https://www.newsweek.com/trump-energy-efficient-light-bulbs-orange-incandescent-expensive-1459081

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Trump says energy-efficient light bulbs make him "look orange," co...
President Donald Trump told the House Republican retreat dinner why his administration cut energy-efficiency standards in the light bulb market.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1527153/donald-trump-orange-light-bulbs-tan.jpg


[17-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WHY


[17-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking clickbait articles


[17-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
I linked two articles about this a few days ago


[17-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If I had a genie my first wish would be that anyone that writes clickbait articles instantly explodes


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I second this


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, is that not a joke


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did he really say that


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We murdered satire and sit on its corpse like a throne


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/13/trump-blames-led-lightbulbs-fo.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-i-look-orange-so-do-you-because-energy-efficient-n1054021
apparently trump has decided he wants to blame LED lightbulbs for his orange hue

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Rob Beschizza
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Trump blames LED lightbulbs for making him look orange
Trump wants to roll back regulations that promote low-power light bulbs, even though at this point the industry has moved on and isn’t likely to do much in the way of modernizing incandescent…
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Trump: I look orange, but so do you
"The light is the worst," Trump said. His administration earlier this month announced it would roll back regulations for increased energy efficiency.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_37/3009291/190913-donald-trump-mc-908_6423f22e015374abb2039e10bf0be0b5.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
yes, it is not a joke


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hard to be sure these days


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
he actually said this


[17-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
brb forcing an aneurysm


[17-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
> apparently trump has decided he wants to blame LED lightbulbs for his orange hue


[17-Sep-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway uh


[17-Sep-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://incendiarynews.com/2019/09/15/houston-ice-detains-activist-who-invited-them-to-town-hall/

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HOUSTON: ICE Detains Activist Who Invited Them to Town Hall
Photo: Press conference after activist Ronald Gramajo’s detention by ICE. By Jennifer Kelly On September 5, Guatemalan immigrant and activist Ronald Gramajo was detained by Immigration and Cu…
https://incendiarynewscom.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/fiel-press-confrence-gramajo-detention.jpg


[17-Sep-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ICE does not even know PR


[17-Sep-19 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/ice-houston-activist-deportation.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/us/ice-houston-activist-deportation.html
A Houston Activist Invited ICE to a Community Meeting. Now, He Fac...
Roland Gramajo, 40, is being held in federal custody pending deportation proceedings. His family believes he drew the authorities’ attention only because of the meeting.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/08/multimedia/08xp-deportation1/08xp-deportation1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Sep-19 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Too be fair LED light is different from natural, incandescent and florescent light and will cause difference in colour based on the light being produced that can be reflected back.

But don't fall for trumps excuses, he is a fucking Oompa Loompa.


[17-Sep-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ICE do understand PR. Their PR is the following propaganda: We are unstoppable. We can do anything we want. We're making you safe. Do not resist.


[17-Sep-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, and the people who support them just accept that and obey


[17-Sep-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All the news fall on deaf ears


[17-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yes, LED is usually whiter and makes red stand out more because it's no longer washed out by yellow/orange light


[17-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. Trump is fucking orange


[17-Sep-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
when this was first posted I linked that pic of Trump standing with the two Russian diplomats who respectively looked like a burnt pop tart and a drowning victim


[17-Sep-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2017/05/15/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russians-us-officials-say/trump-lavrov2.jpg

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https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2017/05/15/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russians-us-officials-say/trump-lavrov2.jpg


[17-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have relatives that resembled the Russians in the Oval Office


[17-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
was a good source of humor


[17-Sep-19 07:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://mobile.twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1173607337296375808


[17-Sep-19 07:14 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[17-Sep-19 07:25 AM] Frame!#1690
Btw Russia's gov sucks
Noone likes it here
I hope nobody will get me here and lock up in jail


[17-Sep-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are well aware.


[17-Sep-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Such is said basically twice a week.


[17-Sep-19 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e10545f795de432a84376798ba691e27

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Back to basics: Congress tries to keep government lights on
WASHINGTON (AP) — The good news is that it doesn't look like a bitterly polarized Washington will stumble into another government shutdown. But as Democrats controlling the House unveil a...
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[17-Sep-19 02:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/623486417858723860/rif-1568721126029.jpg

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[17-Sep-19 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.indy100.com/article/ben-shapiro-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-claims-gentials-watch-video-9108641>


[17-Sep-19 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[17-Sep-19 02:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Shapiro just wants to see his dick.

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[17-Sep-19 02:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Finally coming out


[17-Sep-19 02:45 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Although why was he chasing AOC lol


[17-Sep-19 02:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
To put us off the scent.


[17-Sep-19 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yang's polling better than Booker and Beto


[17-Sep-19 02:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Been that way for a while, yeah


[17-Sep-19 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though pretty much by less than the margin of error


[17-Sep-19 02:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
3% avg


[17-Sep-19 02:51 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Actually tied with Beto on RCP rn


[17-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make no mistake, Shapiro is part of a push to make basically nothing acceptable to call bad


[17-Sep-19 03:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Soon the only things that will hurt people is accusations of pedophilia or being a feminist that is too "extreme".


[17-Sep-19 03:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The hope especially is to make sexual assault/rape perceived as always done as a way to ruin a career so the predators can move around with impunity and have the public on their side. The crocodile tears for "real victims" are just that.


[17-Sep-19 03:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Control the narrative, appeal to people's sense of "huh why _is_ it like that" and push them slightly further


[17-Sep-19 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
jeffrey epstein's involvement with the trumps basically bounced off


[17-Sep-19 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
they never discussed it


[17-Sep-19 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
so clearly even pedophilia isn't enough


[17-Sep-19 03:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of the time it would be. That's the goal. And the scary part is that eventually what is being subverted about sexual assault allegations will turn to that


[17-Sep-19 03:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually it will be seen as "they're trying to destroy a career"


[17-Sep-19 03:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just push people ever so slightly


[17-Sep-19 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/623521712914563083/image0.png

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[17-Sep-19 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Sep-19 04:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Obama Netflix?


[17-Sep-19 04:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama Netflix?


[17-Sep-19 05:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I should edit the most idiotic reeee SJWs posts on the site to append "Obama Netflix?" at the end


[17-Sep-19 05:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
I still say for April 1st everyone is auto-subbed to everything SFW and each post has to begin with @everyone (not you really, Badger). Colorscheme is default Discord.


[17-Sep-19 05:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every crazy Trump tweet makes sense once you read it in the voice of a straight-jacketed lunatic with a stutter


[17-Sep-19 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://dealbreaker.com/2019/09/elon-musk-tells-judge-he-doesnt-know-what-words-mean

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https://dealbreaker.com/2019/09/elon-musk-tells-judge-he-doesnt-know-what-words-mean
Elon Musk Would Like It Entered Into The Legal Record That He Does...
This reminds us of the time he learned about "sex parties."
https://dealbreaker.com/.image/t_share/MTYxMjc3NDM0NDcyNzY5NTAw/creation-of-elon-musk4.jpg


[17-Sep-19 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Big brain time


[17-Sep-19 05:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also FBI did some weird shit with the new Kavanaugh accusation


[17-Sep-19 05:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
25 people corrobrating


[17-Sep-19 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
"did some weird shit" is a funny way to say "was forced to stop the investigation"


[17-Sep-19 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The President has 0 qualms about obstructing justice.


[17-Sep-19 05:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They got what they wanted with Ford, witnesses


[17-Sep-19 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What's "weird shit" here


[17-Sep-19 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were given over two dozen witnesses corroborating an accuser


[17-Sep-19 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They interviewed her and said she was reliable


[17-Sep-19 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But nothing was done.


[17-Sep-19 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, either someone realized the whole thing would be like walking on eggshells and decided to just not walk at all


[17-Sep-19 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or were told to look elsewhere unless they caught Bret murdering someone themselves and accidentally recorded it with multiple witnesses


[17-Sep-19 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Were told not to walk, more like it.


[17-Sep-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump also put out a memo demanding certain restrictions be placed on severla investigations, which the frauds int he justice department happily ran with


[17-Sep-19 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49727101

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'No risk' after fire at Russian lethal virus lab
A major research centre says no biological agents have been released from a blast and fire at a lab.
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[17-Sep-19 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Welp


[17-Sep-19 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess it;s plague time


[17-Sep-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We're going to need a russia sized simpsons movie dome


[17-Sep-19 07:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://psmag.com/economics/trickle-down-economics-is-indeed-a-joke

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https://psmag.com/economics/trickle-down-economics-is-indeed-a-joke
The IMF Confirms That 'Trickle-Down' Economics Is, Indeed, a Joke
Like, an actual joke.
https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTMwOTY1NDQyMTI5ODYxMDg2/shutterstock_19353205jpg.jpg


[17-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old, but important.


[17-Sep-19 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1173963669287448578

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[17-Sep-19 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
NOW IS OUR CHANCE


[17-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even that close


[17-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lip maybe?


[17-Sep-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's being cheeky about it eh


[17-Sep-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/09/17/5d8122d321efa0d8668b461d.html

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https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/09/17/5d8122d321efa0d8668b461d.html
El Rey no propone a Pedro Sánchez como candidato y España afront...
Siete horas claves. El lapso de tiempo en el que Felipe VI ha recibido este martes a Pablo Iglesias, Albert Rivera, Pablo Casado y Pedro Sánchez. Tras escucharlos, a ellos y al res
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2019/09/17/15687456474193.jpg


[17-Sep-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
4th elections in Spain in 4 years...


[17-Sep-19 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[17-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish politics have been a shitshow for the last 6 years


[17-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
from what I understand, they got the neoliberals pretending to be left, the neoliberals who are right, a conservative party, a far-right party, and an actual leftist party, the latter two who were created from the shitshow started by the neoliberals and the conservative party


[17-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically it went from 3 major parties to 5, and there's really not much difference between them


[17-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But they refuse to cooperate


[17-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That slants everything more to the right than it is


[17-Sep-19 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The "far right" party is called that because of the sensibilities of the country being very anti-right, what with Franco and all


[17-Sep-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They aren't much more to the right than the german CDU


[17-Sep-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The "actual leftist party" is a joke party


[17-Sep-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the party of neets with no plan at all


[17-Sep-19 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every municipality they've gotten a majority in, they've shat all over everything with popular and "woke" things done poorly


[17-Sep-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's dozens of minor parties combined into one label


[17-Sep-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/ex-trump-campaign-chief-lewandowski-to-testify-at-impeachment-hearing-idUSKBN1W211K

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Ex-campaign chief defends Trump at chaotic impeachment hearing
Corey Lewandowski, President Donald Trump's former campaign manager and clo...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190917&t=2&i=1430944807&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF8G1LF


[17-Sep-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1173869397984739329?s=19

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https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1173869397984739329?s=19
Forget vicious cycles – here’s the ultimate virtuous one:

- more people use more energy

- more energy means more CO2

- more CO2 means more plants

- more plants feed more people

You really could not design a better planet!

Yay universe! 💕
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[17-Sep-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
How can this man be so retarded


[17-Sep-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
who allows this


[17-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay now this Molyneux is talking about trees too


[17-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dammit


[17-Sep-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie why does this go on, what did they expect


[17-Sep-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[17-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean what did they expect?


[17-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything to come out of it? Him to cave?


[17-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Democrats?


[17-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, it's theatre.


[17-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're dragging people they know are guilty onto the cameras so such can make up stupid defenses about why they're not guilty, that make them look guilty.


[17-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to gain votes in 2020 and dissuade those who would side with said guilty people.


[17-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just emboldens the idea that it's a witch hunt to them though


[17-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I enjoy how fucking rude the House GOP is especially because they're basically fucked at retaking it


[17-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, Trump's base won't care either way


[17-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is independents


[17-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents will take one look at House Republicans using every dirty trikk in the book and will turn away.


[17-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll change votes to Democrats.


[17-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You still don't really get it.


[17-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those Obama to Trump voters really care about that?


[17-Sep-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less the obama to trump voters, and more the "Both parties suck, we;re voting for individual candidates" people


[17-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama to Trump voters are racists, Its


[17-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll vote for Bernie, maybe Warren, not Harris, definitely Biden.


[17-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This will make them switch faster.


[17-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama to Trump voters supposedly like Sanders and Yang the best


[17-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because of race mixed with logical views, yes.


[17-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Sanders was blakk and Yang native American, Obama to Trump voters would be all over Biden right now.


[18-Sep-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1170493610158100480

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https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1170493610158100480
This is Nazi shit https://t.co/5wOfWY7iTo
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[18-Sep-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but europe is many cultures


[18-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
time for fucking 2020


[18-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yang gang 2020


[18-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Lets fucking GO


[18-Sep-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
meh


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yang is for people who just want to consume and nothing else tbh


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Becuase Fuck biden


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if i was from the US, i'd 100% vote for Sanders


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im not voting sanders


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but well, vote for who you wish


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
voting for sanders


[18-Sep-19 12:44 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i might vote republican


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase im a conservitive


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
for whom


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
why would you vote yang but not sanders


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't understand


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd go yang if he had any shot at it but i may have to go for warren or sanders


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase we still pay for others colleges


[18-Sep-19 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
?????


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also the censorship the left wants to do


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
yang is on the left


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what censorship?


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yang's a first choice but Bernie/Warren aren't bad second choices at all for me


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
so again, ?????


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm talking seriously, what censorship


[18-Sep-19 12:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably talking about how many Yang supporters perceive him as being shut out by CNN and MSNBC


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Dbs55pKRI

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[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
shit like this


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not censorship


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Like exclusion from infographics, that kinda deal


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is a lesser hillary clinton, in that he likely wouldnt start a war, but he also wouldnt do anything impactful either other than jsut re-instate some obama policies and call it a day


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
that's expressing an opinion


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
thats not censorship, that is just an ethical suggestion


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
an opinion that is extremely unpopular even on the left


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok what censorship I'm confused now


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the expression should be "hey dudes"


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
my problem is not even democrats


[18-Sep-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the woman in the vid has no power at all to enforce whatever "nefarious agenda" she might have


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its the crazy ones


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
define "crazy"


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Again, elaborate


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
like the social justice warriors


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hey guys is just outdated


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
because you seem to be just reproducing some very simplistic ideology here


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
yawn


[18-Sep-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tumblr ones that havent been relevent for several years now?


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just joined in when you guys started talking about Yang, I have no idea how "hey guys" got entangled in this


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
the crazy fucks on the left that actually scare me are the antivaxers


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
oh


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
and they aren't that numerous


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the more extreme democrat-voters you'll see are more likely to be communists or anarchists than the stereotypical hippie SJW


[18-Sep-19 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and if you try to debate them with that baggage... i don't think you're gonna convince them


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well my parents are antivaxers


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and they are fucking conservative


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
good god


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
you should spurn them for their reckless liberalism


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
:p


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Midknight#9798
antivaxers are neither right nor left; they are their own branch of crazy


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
try vaccinating yourself if you can


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i already am


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
@Midknight the haircut is equal opportunity


[18-Sep-19 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
good, then


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i have been since i was a kid


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal do you have up to date MMR and TDaP


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont know what that is


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i got shots


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
like since i was a kid


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to be periodically reimmunized against particular viruses


[18-Sep-19 12:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
like a couple of them


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont even get sick that much


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the flu vaccine is the most notable of those since it mutates so often


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
but tetanus will kill you


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
measles will kill you


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
varicella can kill you


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Midknight#9798
yeah you need tetanus at least every 10 years


[18-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Midknight#9798
and if you get an injury after 7 they'll probably re-dose you just in case


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
don't worry about getting needled in the arm if that's your fear


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to update my vaccinations but i dont have the coverage or money


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] Midknight#9798
in my experience anyway


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just look the other way when the doctor does it


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i already have my vaccines


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im fine


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, ok, then


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just suggesting


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're sure they're all up to date


[18-Sep-19 12:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also i have a really fucking immune system


[18-Sep-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine are not up to date


[18-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
my only worry is fucking diabetes


[18-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Midknight#9798
if you don't know when your last tetanus vaccination was, do get another. it's a really nasty way to die---every single muscle in your body locks up tight and won't relax. muscles tearing themselves apart hurts, then it reaches the diaphragm and you suffocate


[18-Sep-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont have the money to get an update


[18-Sep-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
there are likely free clinics which will do it for you at no cost


[18-Sep-19 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>paying for vaccines
good god america


[18-Sep-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
check around in your area


[18-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: vaccines have been proven to overall strengthen the immune system against general sickness


[18-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Midknight#9798
yeah even if you don't have health care, there are public health clinics that will provide critical vaccines


[18-Sep-19 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
herd immunity is so important that pharmaceuticals give them away for free


[18-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Midknight#9798
and if you do, they're required to cover vaccinations 100%


[18-Sep-19 12:57 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but yes i have been vaccinated


[18-Sep-19 12:57 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
my last one was from 2017


[18-Sep-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont have healthcare but i'll check for any free clinics in my area


[18-Sep-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
your school may have one


[18-Sep-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
mine does, I intend to get a flu shot once I'm over this shitty cold


[18-Sep-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll ask them


[18-Sep-19 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they dont i'll ask if thye know one near by


[18-Sep-19 12:59 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i have some form of acid reflex


[18-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its when i eat food


[18-Sep-19 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
take calcium carbonate then


[18-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
it kind of sucks


[18-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i puke my food


[18-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and it fucking drives me nuts


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
it hurts my chest


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
it fucking sucks


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
have you seen someone about it yet


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yeah


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i had a xray scan


[18-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and they said its just acid reflexes


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
x-ray imaging is pretty much useless in cases of things that do not involve foreign bodies or broken bones


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
they do it because they can charge insurance $80 per picture


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wtf


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
neat shtick right


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
then im gonna figure wtf this is


[18-Sep-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
your doctor is a fucking moron


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
have you been taking calcium carbonate


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Midknight#9798
Framerate, I've been there


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
or bismuth subsalicylate


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well indiana as a whole is full of idiots


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Midknight#9798
heartburn is heartburn until you have it so bad you wonder "is this a heart attack?" but it's not a heart attack, because you'd damn well know it was if it was 😛


[18-Sep-19 01:03 AM] Midknight#9798
when it's that bad, it might be GERD


[18-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
fuck


[18-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i had this for like 6 years


[18-Sep-19 01:04 AM] Midknight#9798
Which is unpleasant. But a lil proton pump inhibitor pill every morning for a couple weeks kills it for a couple months, then you get another bottle


[18-Sep-19 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'll reiterate, murican healthcare is fucked up


[18-Sep-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
they are just trying to extract as much money out of insurance as possible for each visit


[18-Sep-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's very fucked up


[18-Sep-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal but I repeat myself, have you taken _any_ sort of medication for it on your own initiative?


[18-Sep-19 01:06 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[18-Sep-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
why not


[18-Sep-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
tums is a perfectly viable option to start with


[18-Sep-19 01:07 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
oh yeah i had some tums


[18-Sep-19 01:07 AM] Midknight#9798
Chalk. Ugh. I hate that stuff; it also doesn't last long. pop to the pharmacy and get some nexium or omeprazole or something along those lines, follow the directions. For the first 4 days, take some pepsid ac or other antacid every time a new dose of that is allowed by the label, too. (disclaimer: I am not your doctor)


[18-Sep-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
pepto if that doesn't work


[18-Sep-19 01:07 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
k


[18-Sep-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and then if that doesn't work go complain and they'll script you for ondanestron


[18-Sep-19 01:08 AM] Midknight#9798
(I am just very familiar with how to self-manage bad reflux :P)


[18-Sep-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
that chemical fucking works miracles


[18-Sep-19 01:09 AM] Midknight#9798
that's an anti-nausea medication according to google


[18-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-union-clash-over-temp-workers-as-strike-continues-11568759830

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GM, Union Clash Over Temp Workers as Strike Continues
As a nationwide strike at General Motors closes out its second day, the company’s use of temporary workers has emerged as a key bargaining issue as the United Auto Workers union negotiates a new labor contract.
https://images.wsj.net/im-108033/social


[18-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
welp


[18-Sep-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
scabs


[18-Sep-19 01:12 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
what?


[18-Sep-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikebreaker

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Strikebreaker
A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab, blackleg, or knobstick) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who were not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired after or during the s...
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[18-Sep-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they seemingly often appear when the company offers a higher temporary salary for workers not involved in the strike


[18-Sep-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
basically, a divide-and-conquer approach


[18-Sep-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if it's successful, the strike falters and wages just go back to what they were prior


[18-Sep-19 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
corporations have a lot of tools to use to bully striking workers, it seems


[18-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2019-09-12/disney-tv-shows-backend-profit-participation-changes

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https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2019-09-12/disney-tv-shows-backend-profit-participation-changes
The end of the backend? Disney wants to limit profit participation...
A new deal structure could have a significant impact on the long-term earnings of show creators.
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[18-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Do not work for the fucking RAT


[18-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Midknight#9798
the bigger companies get, the more they think they can screw the little guy


[18-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Midknight#9798
all to feed the fatcat sitting on his ass doing nothing in his fancy office that he complains about if he has to visit more than a couple times a month


[18-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Midknight#9798
when the little guy is doing the work that actually produces something, yet barely gets by trying to keep up with inflation


[18-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Midknight#9798
fuck giant companies 🙂


[18-Sep-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
viacom and disney are monstrosities


[18-Sep-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really knwo the reputation of warner or turner though


[18-Sep-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Midknight#9798
Would have been worse if he'd been actually aiming tho... *much* worse. Or used a bomb. The guy was nuts to do something like that to begin with, but he was also freaking rich. Bans don't stop poor criminals. One with the money to buy the freaking black market itself? He wants to do something, he'll find a way to do it.


[18-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Midknight#9798
Attackers pick the time, method, and place to minimize effective response or escape options. You want to be safe? Maximize your response options and carry a weapon, or better still, don't go out at all. Or realize shit like this is really, really rare and stop panicking about it because the media is so bored they have nothing but the one recent nutjob in a nation of 350 million people to talk about for months on end.


[18-Sep-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
how does carrying a weapon improve your odds when the shooter is 32 floors above you


[18-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Midknight#9798
it doesn't


[18-Sep-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
or the attacker is timothy mcveigh


[18-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Midknight#9798
the attacker in those instances chose their time, place, and method of attack to eliminate response options. most aren't that effective.


[18-Sep-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
not like you have a lot of time to respond to a nitrate bomb


[18-Sep-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
it explodes and then you die


[18-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Midknight#9798
just because you have a weapon doesn't mean it will be useful. But finding yourself in a situation where it would save your ass and not having it sucks


[18-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Midknight#9798
there's a reason I keep a first aid kit, fire extinguisher, poncho, mylar shelter, wool blanket, firestarting materials, food, water, air compressor, and jump starter pack in the trunk of my car: in real life, bad shite happens, and it doesn't pick times and places based on how convenient it is to the happenee


[18-Sep-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I wouldn't go without a fire extinguisher


[18-Sep-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't have a car anymore though so none of this applies to me


[18-Sep-19 01:50 AM] Midknight#9798
even without my car, my laptop bag has a cpr shield, my allergy meds and antacids, and other minor first aid supplies in one of the small pockets


[18-Sep-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
so what happens when you aren't prepared


[18-Sep-19 01:50 AM] Midknight#9798
Be prepared.  At worst, you're carrying useless shite around. At best, you could save a life


[18-Sep-19 01:50 AM] Midknight#9798
And if you're not prepared, you aren't someone who should be dictating what others may or may not do 🙂


[18-Sep-19 01:56 AM] Midknight#9798
Hell, my brother is required by his employer to keep an NBC gas mask in the trunk of *his* car


[18-Sep-19 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1174088238794977281

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In which @BarryBerke tears Corey Lewandowski a new one https://t.co/cwLf3NEI2E
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Twitter


[18-Sep-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, he just said he can only be expected to tell the truth while under oath.


[18-Sep-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was the guy who told someone to tell Sessions to unrecuse himself right


[18-Sep-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that guy refused


[18-Sep-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated note but the fact that regardless of which not Harris Democrat wins the presidency that Harris would likely be AG is extremely worrying.


[18-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
wow, he walked into that one


[18-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
he was so unwilling to admit that what he said was true that he was willing to call himself a liar at any other time he wasn't under oath


[18-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
this is peak cognitive dissonance


[18-Sep-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why tell the truth unless you can go to prison for lying?


[18-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucczIg98Gw

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Pete Seeger - What Did You Learn In School?
Pete singing on BBC's 'Tonight In Person' in 1964. (Ripped from Folk Sounds of the Sixties, BBC4, 2006). Apologies for the watermark which appears. I hope to...
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[18-Sep-19 04:46 AM] ononim#8141
https://66.media.tumblr.com/8bed55a90d33731744fb8092d734ed6a/2b76e3fd5352f8dd-7d/s500x750/eb8411ebb8149f5f22aa3b2039e1040549e2af88.jpg

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[18-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g

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commarx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g
pete seeger which side are you on
union song
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5iAIM02kv0g/hqdefault.jpg


[18-Sep-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People really like Yang wow


[18-Sep-19 05:11 AM] Oatsy#4039
gros


[18-Sep-19 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His actions reaching out to that SNL comedian who called him a "Jewish chink" appeal to a lot I guess


[18-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His self depreciation appeals to a lot which is kinda sketchy but ok


[18-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Oatsy#4039
his only position anyone following him knows is UBI


[18-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Oatsy#4039
exaggerating


[18-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Oatsy#4039
but still not far off


[18-Sep-19 05:13 AM] ononim#8141
I just love how he beats Harris in her own state


[18-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris will only ever be an AG under one of these people.


[18-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think she'd ever be AG under bernie


[18-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Oatsy#4039
Good


[18-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Oatsy#4039
She's way too into Modi


[18-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
you don't want harris as AG


[18-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
she can do nearly as much harm there as she can do as president


[18-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Oatsy#4039
I don't want her anywhere


[18-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Oatsy#4039
Same with Tulsi


[18-Sep-19 05:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Something about Harris strikes me as somewhat disingenuous


[18-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again


[18-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the one who is willing to burn the rest of their group for power


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, Yang's much more than just UBI, although that's definitely all anyone really talks about


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You think Biden would ever pick Yang, and that it would work?


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
For VP? Warren.


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden/Yang would work well in terms of just snagging votes


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yang would be a cabinet member.


[18-Sep-19 05:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden gets the boomer vote, Yang gets the zoomer vote


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren could fit that just as well


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or Biden/Sanders


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
or Warren, yeah


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden's support among Gen Z is literally lower than Yang's


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's gonna be Biden/Warren or Biden/Sanders, both of which are very electable


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Midknight#9798
I mean, Biden's got my primary vote already so


[18-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Oatsy#4039
ew


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Sanders won't happen


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ever.


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think Biden's going to hold his own very well against Trump


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Midknight#9798
you'd rather have mr anti-4th-amendment O'rourke?


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren/Yang is possible but messy.


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
2nd*


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Midknight#9798
no, I meant 4th


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Honestly, I'd prefer Yang the most


[18-Sep-19 05:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
hm


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how is he search and seizure related


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(Beto's not even my top choice)


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(by a long shot)


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Midknight#9798
he wants to confiscate property. that's seizure


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Midknight#9798
no due process, you just lose it


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Midknight#9798
that's against the fourth amendment


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Midknight#9798
Beto can buzz off


[18-Sep-19 05:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
clearly you're not a fan of Beto


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and honestly, I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone here who has a #1 choice of Beto


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
although someone can prove me wrong at any minute


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(do note that we had a fan of Inslee here)


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He should try again for Senate in Texas.


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
He really should, yeah


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Midknight#9798
he's better than trump, but that's not exactly a bar you want to have to be held up against


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Pssshh any candidate is better than Trump


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Midknight#9798
that's the point


[18-Sep-19 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
gonna be honest with you, Biden's really low on my list of choices


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I sadly think he's necessary


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
like, he's the "electable" option, but there's a LOT of issues I have with him


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Midknight#9798
I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary. I don't think he's the guy to clean up after Trump's mess, domestically *or* internationally, though


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The issues I have with him are lessened when you pair him with who will probably be his VP, Warren.


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Midknight#9798
Biden has respect, experience, and a lot of contacts around the world


[18-Sep-19 05:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and he also seems to be losing it


[18-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Midknight#9798
Warren's alright. I like her economic policy. just...gal...drop the gun crap


[18-Sep-19 05:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why are you against Sanders being Prez


[18-Sep-19 05:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
aka why don't you think "he can clean up the mess"


[18-Sep-19 05:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because he, Warren and Yang are my top 3 choices ngl


[18-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Midknight#9798
He's very much a "broad ideas without much getting down to nitty gritty details" person


[18-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[18-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Midknight#9798
look at his legislative record in the Senate if you don't believe me. he's not exactly behind a lot of stuff


[18-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people describe him as the political equivalent of a "Greatest hits" tour


[18-Sep-19 05:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ponythinking:


[18-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
beto is young biden


[18-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Midknight#9798
President doesn't *have* to be great at details since the actual bills have to come from congress anyway, but I want a president who can roll up their sleeves, march into the discussions, and say "hold up, that's dumb, try this"


[18-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Midknight#9798
keep things moving forward


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Midknight#9798
not just bubble and boil and simmer and die in committee


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Midknight https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/24/725404168/at-2-125-million-new-gene-therapy-is-the-most-expensive-drug-ever

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At $2.1 Million, New Gene Therapy Is The Most Expensive Drug Ever
The Food and Drug Administration approved a new gene therapy for a rare but devastating genetic disorder. The drugmaker says the cost is worth it because it's a one-time treatment that saves lives.
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[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
> "We're talking about a lifetime of benefit being condensed down into a one-time treatment," Lennon says. "We're not used to thinking about this that way. We're used to a system of a chronic medication where we spread things out over years if not decades."


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also without the experience and/or existing reputation


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Midknight#9798
that's a lot more than $10-15k


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Biden is off-putting to me because it seems like he'd struggle in a debate, and hence would struggle in battles against Congress


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
$10-15k is the actual cost of making the gene therapy


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean _I_ want a president who knows their place and rolls back decades of executive excesses, but


[18-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
$2.1 million is the price tag they put on it because it cures the disease


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's a ridiculous margin


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Midknight#9798
that's big pharma tho


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
gotta make back that R&D money! Other countries have cheap healthcare because the US subsidizes them! Because only we pay for the R&D! Arglebargle!


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
> "We're talking about a lifetime of benefit being condensed down into a one-time treatment," Lennon says. "We're not used to thinking about this that way. We're used to a system of a chronic medication where we spread things out over years if not decades."


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Midknight#9798
insurance companies make money from patients and their employers, the less they have to actually pay *for* the better


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
read it


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
/s


[18-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
they're basically saying


[18-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
that because it condenses all of the decades of drugs needed to treat the chronic illness into a one-time fee, it should be expensive as fuck


[18-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
in order to save the market


[18-Sep-19 05:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's one hell of a convenience charge tell you hwat


[18-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
because if there's no more chronic suffering


[18-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Midknight#9798
fuck the market, this is peoples' ***LIVES***


[18-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
there's **no more market**


[18-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Midknight#9798
there ***shouldn't be*** if we don't need it anymore


[18-Sep-19 05:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
since when was pharma *about the fucking market*


[18-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
:capitalism:


[18-Sep-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
since shareholders


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Midknight#9798
well I've said for years, some things shouldn't be for profit. capitalism has its place, but it needs to be subject to people, not ruling them


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
and it's proven again and again that it can't be controlled easily


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sounds like communist propaganda but okay" moment incoming


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunist cawpaganda


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Seize the means of production already


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you take a penny of public research funds you shouldn't be able to to decide how much to sell your medicine for


[18-Sep-19 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The makeup industry operates on a model of ridiculous profit margins but even *that* doesn't come close to pharma's numbers, even by the percentage


[18-Sep-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
makeup, razors, basically all cosmetic and fashion shit


[18-Sep-19 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"pennies on the dollar" doesn't even begin to capture what pharmaceuticals make back because it implies the cost of production is greater than 1%


[18-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Oatsy#4039
you say that as if Bernie hasn't been way more gloves off this campaign


[18-Sep-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also it's hard as hell to fight in the Senate


[18-Sep-19 05:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well at least rn


[18-Sep-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless Nadler personally follows up with filing contempt charges (since I see no one else with the power to do so who would willingly do so) then I'd say we're already at the point where the house, and by extension the entirety of congress, has become a kangaroo court regarding oversight of any kind. The senate's already gone so long as McConnell and his cronies have their way


[18-Sep-19 05:51 AM] Midknight#9798
Nadler could do that, but such a charge would be handled by Barr's justice dept, so it's not likely to amount to anything


[18-Sep-19 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It would put the ball in their court, at the very least


[18-Sep-19 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but so long as Pelosi continues to drink spine-dissolving juice I don't see anyone else trying to rock the boat


[18-Sep-19 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there was a time when Pelosi was considered one of the most hardball representatives. It would seem that's been compromised almost entirely


[18-Sep-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2019-09-17/trump-revokes-california-environmental-authority-auto-deal

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https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2019-09-17/trump-revokes-california-environmental-authority-auto-deal
Trump plans to revoke a key California environmental power; state ...
Trump’s EPA plans to revoke a waiver that has empowered California to set tougher auto pollution standards than those required by the U.S. government.
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/22023d7/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2048x1075+0+153/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fca-times.brightspotcdn.com%2F43%2F0c%2F36eda42f2eaa1d5d0ffdaeed1079%2Fla-1542227463-hiegv5hch0-snap-image


[18-Sep-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
> The move, which has been in the works for much of the last three years, would overturn the foundation for California’s role as an environmental leader in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and improving air quality. By revoking a special waiver the state has relied on for years to set its own standards, the administration will be saying that no state can impose more ambitious pollution controls than those adopted by the federal government.


[18-Sep-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
"BUT MUH STATES RIGHTS"


[18-Sep-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
irrefutable proof that the republican party never cared about states' rights


[18-Sep-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/09/17/benjamin-netanyahu-falling-behind-in-israel-election-exit-polls/

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https://nypost.com/2019/09/17/benjamin-netanyahu-falling-behind-in-israel-election-exit-polls/
Benjamin Netanyahu falling behind in Israel election exit polls
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s battle for political survival looked ready to continue for days or even weeks after Israeli exit polls released after Tuesday’s election showed the race too clos…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/benjamin-netanyahu-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[18-Sep-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[18-Sep-19 06:20 AM] Midknight#9798
Ahh. The Midnight Ride of Netanyahu. "The Leftists are coming! The leftists are coming!"


[18-Sep-19 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d69aa008f6324830ba6b591059e1b825

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The Latest: Netanyahu says he'll seek 'Zionist' government
JERUSALEM (AP) — The Latest on the Israeli election (all times local): 3:45 a.m. After an apparent election setback, Israel's prime minister says he will seek the formation of a new...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/5ee9df53d54648859d8becd8c4f176e5/3000.jpeg


[18-Sep-19 06:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48663283

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48663283
Galapagos island 'to be used by US military'
Ecuador’s decision to allow US planes to use a San Cristobal airfield prompts environmental concerns.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/137EA/production/_107405897_gettyimages-453274194-594x594.jpg


[18-Sep-19 07:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ezYE9K9uMA

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Timcast
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7ezYE9K9uMA/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Sep-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/17/20870581/ayanna-pressley-brett-kavanaugh-impeachment-resolution

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/17/20870581/ayanna-pressley-brett-kavanaugh-impeachment-resolution
Ayanna Pressley just filed an impeachment resolution against Brett...
It’s the first step to getting an impeachment inquiry underway.
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[18-Sep-19 07:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-boat-attack-russia-clash-1459737

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https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-boat-attack-russia-clash-1459737
North Korean boat attacks Russian ship in the latest East Asian bo...
Border disputes involving North and South Korea, Russia, China and Japan have led to some tense episodes in the Asia-Pacific region.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1528098/north-korea-fishing-vessels.jpg


[18-Sep-19 07:49 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
welp


[18-Sep-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
tfw even north korea can bully russia


[18-Sep-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'm surprised ukraine lost crimea to russia


[18-Sep-19 07:52 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
kim has a lot of explaining to do


[18-Sep-19 07:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
also


[18-Sep-19 07:53 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1179123/russia-news-vladimir-putin-north-korea-attack-missile-kim-jong-un-world-war-3-spt

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Putin furious as three Russians wounded in attack by North Korean ship
VLADIMIR PUTIN has seen his border police embroiled in hostility with a large group of North Koreans.
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/750x445/1179123.jpg


[18-Sep-19 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I was recommended this video by youtube https://youtu.be/5Kcv6PvILYY?t=36

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TheDC Shorts
https://youtu.be/5Kcv6PvILYY?t=36
AOC Left Speechless By ICE Director
Subscribe to our channel! https://goo.gl/pyGqbu AOC was left speechless by a former ICE director after he corrected her assumptions on immigration. Or visit ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5Kcv6PvILYY/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Sep-19 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
(TheDC = The Daily Caller)


[18-Sep-19 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
and I'm just left flabbergasted at how anyone can think the argument that Homan makes is valid


[18-Sep-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
but, it doesn't really matter, does it?


[18-Sep-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it only matters if you can use it to score a point against THE LIBS LMAO


[18-Sep-19 03:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
More pointless ministry's for the UK almost as bad as the ministry for silly walks.

https://news.sky.com/story/jo-swinson-talks-up-chances-of-being-pm-and-would-create-minister-for-happiness-11812261

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Jo Swinson talks up chances of being PM - and would create ministe...
The Lib Dem leader uses her conference speech to deliver her "stop Brexit" message and reveal her "wellbeing budget" proposal.
https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/skynews-jo-swinson-jo-swinson-mp_4777590.jpg?20190917165035


[18-Sep-19 04:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just overthrow the monarchy already


[18-Sep-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
that sounds terrible


[18-Sep-19 04:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/623182036689092628/623876747464802322/gkXML9p.png

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[18-Sep-19 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
like "minister for happiness" just sounds like propaganda speak for the person who indoctrinates you into being happy using drugs and shit


[18-Sep-19 04:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[18-Sep-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
tfw you live in a society


[18-Sep-19 04:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1174048378247950337?s=21

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CNN (@CNN)
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[18-Sep-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/11df7e443937454db9a7103f5ffe84a4

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Trump names hostage envoy O'Brien national security adviser
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Wednesday named Robert O'Brien, his chief hostage negotiator and an established figure in Republican policy circles, as his new national security...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/5500b7eb2d9545f2be27217550a83dbc/2396.jpeg


[18-Sep-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fca520644d224f68928d07a457befd51 guess we're pissing off finland next

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Trump, Finland's president to meet at White House in October
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump and Finnish President Sauli Niinisto will mark 100 years of diplomatic relations between their countries at the White House next month. The White...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/255ef1d84c134964b0795e329f3a4ddc/2488.jpeg


[18-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/mass-school-shootings-more-likely-blamed-video-games-when-perpetrator-white-racial-issue-1459069

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Mass school shootings more likely to be blamed on video games when...
Little evidence shows video games causes violence, leading researchers to believe racial stereotyping could explain why this form of entertainment is blamed when a shooter is white, but less often if they are black.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1527159/video-game-gaming-computer-entertainment-stock-getty.jpg

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[18-Sep-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
not in adolescents


[18-Sep-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
the effect in children is still debatable afaik


[18-Sep-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
What who?


[18-Sep-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
http://theconversation.com/im-a-psychotherapist-heres-what-ive-learned-from-listening-to-children-talk-about-climate-change-123183

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I'm a psychotherapist – here's what I've learned from listening ...
Children are more attuned to the climate crisis than adults realise. We must listen to them.
https://images.theconversation.com/files/292422/original/file-20190913-8658-1pwczgu.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=0%2C0%2C6238%2C3119&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=crop


[18-Sep-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/style/article/bstroy-school-shooting-sweatshirts/index.html

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Fashion brand sparks outrage for school shooting-themed hoodies
American fashion brand Bstroy has received fierce criticism on social media after displaying school shooting-themed hoodies at a show during New York Fashion Week.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190918133126-bstroy-sandy-hook-hoodie-super-tease.jpg


[18-Sep-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
do it more, maybe people might start taking the topic seriously

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[18-Sep-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/17/mike-folmer-pennsylvania-state-senator-faces-child-pornography-charge/2360244001/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/17/mike-folmer-pennsylvania-state-senator-faces-child-pornography-charge/2360244001/
Child porn found on phone of Pennsylvania state Sen. Mike Folmer, ...
GOP state Sen. Mike Folmer of Pennsylvania was arrested Tuesday after images of child porn were found on his phone, the state’s attorney general said.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/e59c8fc67b06d6dfc24d412e0fe536b0b709c6b3/c=0-529-1500-1376/local/-/media/2016/05/18/PAGroup/Lebanon/635991513475416250-mike-folmer-color-2013.jpg?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop

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[18-Sep-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
is it just me, or do usatoday comments no longer work?


[18-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the UI changed on chrome for USA today


[18-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
there's no longer a comments button


[18-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
but it's still there on firefox


[18-Sep-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Wow, news from my state


[18-Sep-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
only a state senator though


[18-Sep-19 09:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"No press here" ***clack clack clack***  📷 *** Clack clack clack***
https://youtu.be/b3OhFdfhbkA

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Sky News
https://youtu.be/b3OhFdfhbkA
Angry father confronts PM during hospital visit
The father of an ill child has confronted the Prime Minister on a visit to Whipps Cross Hospital in northeast London. Omar Salem, a Labour party activist, to...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b3OhFdfhbkA/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the fuck keeps CP on their phone


[18-Sep-19 10:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Idiots


[18-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Oatsy#4039
according to phone repair people


[18-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Oatsy#4039
some have it as their lockscreen


[18-Sep-19 10:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:ineedanadult:


[18-Sep-19 10:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But why


[18-Sep-19 10:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's literally breaking the law and wearing that fact on your sleeve


[18-Sep-19 10:43 PM] Oatsy#4039
maybe they just never go out


[18-Sep-19 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I definitely remember seeing a picture of a phone on some police twitter account with a strategically placed post-it note over the anime girl saying something to the effect of "Is this your phone? Come in, we'd like to have a talk"


[18-Sep-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony there's quite a big difference, especially in the way US law treats it, between loli and actual CP as a phone wallpaper.


[18-Sep-19 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't say for certain that it was in the US


[18-Sep-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it was the UK, they'd be sending out police officers armed with very good batons in droves to some guy's house and pulling up every camera on the street.


[18-Sep-19 11:36 PM] Midknight#9798
I am really boring. I just use the default wall paper and lock screen on my phone.


[19-Sep-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even have a phone to do any of this with


[19-Sep-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
so do I


[19-Sep-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sodoi


[19-Sep-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sodomite


[19-Sep-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[19-Sep-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
_bends over_


[19-Sep-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sodomy


[19-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
cawdomite


[19-Sep-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/world/canada/trudeau-brownface.html

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By Ian Austen and Dan Bilefsky
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/world/canada/trudeau-brownface.html
2001 Photo of Trudeau in Brownface Makeup Roils Canada Election
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s campaign was thrown into turmoil when a photograph surfaced of him in brownface makeup at a 2001 private school party.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/18/world/18Trudeau/merlin_161032608_e105717a-48f1-4618-879f-5a688a3b6d91-facebookJumbo.jpg


[19-Sep-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://time.com/5680759/justin-trudeau-brownface-photo/

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https://time.com/5680759/justin-trudeau-brownface-photo/
Justin Trudeau Wore Brownface at 2001 ‘Arabian Nights’ Party W...
Justin Trudeau, Canada's prime minister, wore brownface makeup to a party at the private school where he taught in 2001, a photo obtained by TIME shows
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/justin_trudeau_yearbook_05.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[19-Sep-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
jesus


[19-Sep-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people.


[19-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/18/762108954/california-governor-signs-law-protecting-gig-economy-workers

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https://www.npr.org/2019/09/18/762108954/california-governor-signs-law-protecting-gig-economy-workers
California Governor Signs Law Protecting Gig Economy Workers
The measure that reclassifies many independent contractors as employees could have national implications for the so-called gig economy.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/09/18/ap_19261666703954_wide-860837b9a11f282a391a8154e810bd40ce2c2dc7.jpg?s=1400


[19-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[19-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
that law I mentioned that stops companies from classifying people doing normal work as private contractors will make it almost impossible for companies to fight strikes


[19-Sep-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
just hire scabs


[19-Sep-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
congrats, strike broken


[19-Sep-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah it's misbehaving


[19-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
that's the thing, scabs under that law are now classified as normal workers


[19-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Midknight#9798
get Fluttershy to tell it to behave


[19-Sep-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
but it only applies to california atm


[19-Sep-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
since it's a california law


[19-Sep-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
but the law boils down to stopping companies from being able to hire private contractors to do the work of normal employees


[19-Sep-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm pretty sure scabs are classified as private contractors


[19-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'"We've engaged in good faith with the Legislature, the Newsom Administration and labor leaders for nearly a year on this issue, and we believe California is missing a real opportunity to lead the nation by improving the quality, security and dignity of independent work," Tony West, Uber's chief legal officer, said in a statement issued before the bill's signing.'


[19-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well fukk you Uber


[19-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't giv a shit about any of that stuff you claim to want.


[19-Sep-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
apparently scabs don't necessarily have to be private contractors, but I sure bet it simplified a lot of things to be able to


[19-Sep-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[19-Sep-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being able to call someone a private contractor completely absolves all responsibility.


[19-Sep-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No worker's comp, no benefits, no nothing.


[19-Sep-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of it was originally so someone who rapidly switches employers didn't become a huge bureaucratic burden


[19-Sep-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would discourage small businesses.


[19-Sep-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is


[19-Sep-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
now everything's pretty much automated


[19-Sep-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not a huge burden


[19-Sep-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there are limitations by business size


[19-Sep-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
so big companies get around them by saying welp you're a private contractor


[19-Sep-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they hav all the power.


[19-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Weird how those photos surface *now* and not, say, during the previous election


[19-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh right 👏 *Cancel 👏 Culture* 👏 wasn't a thing yet 🙄


[19-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/entertainment/thomas-middleditch-swinging-trnd/index.html

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'Silicon Valley' star Thomas Middleditch says swinging 'saved' his...
Thomas Middleditch is being open about his open marriage.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190918075203-01-thomas-middleditch-mollie-gates-file-super-tease.jpg


[19-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
I think this article is trying to attack swinging


[19-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
by associating it with silicon valley


[19-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he has a huge sexual appetite, she doesn't


[19-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently my city is getting a "cannibis manufacturing plant"


[19-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently my county is suspending court fees for people getting out of jail or on probation


[19-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
stuff like public defender services, electronic monitoring, work alternatives, etc


[19-Sep-19 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
court fees are a "fuck you for being poor" thing


[19-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[19-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
that's why they're suspending them


[19-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
though why in the nine hells you had to pay for doing community service is beyond me


[19-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
it was a 3-2 vote, the 2 dissenters saying there "wasn't enough data yet"


[19-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
because a lot of studies are apparently concluding that all these fees don't actually stop crime


[19-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
and the suspension applies to all people regardless of income


[19-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/09/18/expert-gm-health-care-shift-during-uaw-strike-poured-gasoline-fire/2367317001/

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GM dumped health care for striking workers. That poured gas on fir...
UAW members working in everything from scientific research to counter-terrorism pay union dues that help subsidize strike pay for autoworkers.
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[19-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, when you violently attakk someone striking, causing bodily harm, that's illegal.


[19-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a clear form of intimidation.


[19-Sep-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should it be treated differently when you attempt to remove their ability to get treatment in the event of bodily harm from a third party?


[19-Sep-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
going back to that thing about court fees, apparently the reason for the moratorium is because it was ruled that forcing people who can't afford to pay for court fees to pay them (by garnishing wages or whatever) was unconstitutional, but not all judges were applying that in their rulings


[19-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
so the moratorium to just dump all current and future fees is a quick and dirty fix that solves the problem


[19-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, 8th amendment.


[19-Sep-19 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder GM isn't a stranger to anti-striker violence. Neither is Ford. Both have a history of being violent against unions or strikers. GM just did everyone a big up because they rules Flint, Michigan; a majority of the city government - and I think some in county - were also GM executives. The police chief for Flint at one point was also the GM security chief or some such


[19-Sep-19 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
So on top of company security and the Pinkertons, they literally wielded Flint PD like a weapon


[19-Sep-19 08:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkR8c5ybZDM

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Sargon of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkR8c5ybZDM
Who Killed Jeffrey Epstein?
An investigation into the information regarding the circumstances of Jeffrey Epstein's death and who is responsible. The Convenient Death of Jeffrey Epstein:...
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[19-Sep-19 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was sargon of akkad this whole time! it makes total sense!

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[19-Sep-19 11:46 AM] Oatsy#4039
Lol


[19-Sep-19 12:21 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-laura-ingraham-drinks-steak-impaled-with-lightbulbs-and-plastic-straws-to-own-the-libs/

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Tommy Christopher
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-laura-ingraham-drinks-steak-impaled-with-lightbulbs-and-plastic-straws-to-own-the-libs/
WATCH: Laura Ingraham Drinks Steak Impaled With Lightbulbs and Pla...
Fox News host Laura Ingraham engaged in several minutes of prop "comedy" when she attempted to "trigger" liberals with a plate of steak, incandescent light bulbs, and plastic straw
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[19-Sep-19 12:21 PM] Mikey#7286
You can't make this shit up


[19-Sep-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sheshould really put it in a blender, it makes it much easier to drink


[19-Sep-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mm steak blended shards of glass


[19-Sep-19 12:33 PM] Mikey#7286
I see a clown


[19-Sep-19 12:33 PM] Mikey#7286
And it ain't the libs


[19-Sep-19 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, own the libs by making them laugh! truly the purest form of mockeryr


[19-Sep-19 12:38 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[19-Sep-19 12:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-scientists-complain-new-rules-would-sharply-restrict-foreign-interaction/30109691.html

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Russian Scientists Complain New Rules Would Sharply Restrict Forei...
Scientists say the Russian authorities have ordered new restrictions limiting the interaction between Russian scholars and their foreign counterparts.
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[19-Sep-19 12:57 PM] ononim#8141
>require scientists to give five days' advance notice to ministry officials anytime they plan on meeting a foreign colleague


[19-Sep-19 02:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>which may or may not be approved for no apparent reason


[19-Sep-19 02:13 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so what does a whistleblower mean for us ?


[19-Sep-19 02:13 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and whats gonna happen now ?


[19-Sep-19 02:15 PM] Mikey#7286
What?


[19-Sep-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those rules sound like what Stephen Harper had for Canadian scientists during his administration, but focused on foreign meetings instead of talking to the press.


[19-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-complaint-reportedly-on-trump-contact-with-foreign-leader-touches-off-dc-firestorm

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Whistleblower complaint, reportedly on Trump 'promise' to foreign ...
A whistleblower complaint that reportedly involved allegations President Trump made a troubling and unspecified "promise" to a foreign leader touched off a new Washington firestorm on Thursday, as the intelligence community’s top watchdog testified on the matter and the pre...
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[19-Sep-19 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No reveal of what the complaint was about


[19-Sep-19 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Sep-19 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Sep-19 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Sep-19 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
[Everyone disliked that.]


[19-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Sep-19 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
conservatives missing the culprit despite it being in front of them


[19-Sep-19 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
self aware wolves material


[19-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/761962531/people-are-looking-at-your-linkedin-profile-they-might-be-chinese-spies

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People Are Looking At Your LinkedIn Profile. They Might Be Chinese...
Chinese intelligence officers like to use the professional social network — in which people often accept pings from strangers — to recruit sources within the U.S. government.
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[19-Sep-19 08:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailywire.com/news/51500/khachatrian-cancel-culture-comes-chicken-harry-khachatrian

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KHACHATRIAN: Cancel Culture Comes For Chicken Sandwiches
On Friday, September 6, the popular American fast-food chain, Chick-fil-A opened its second Canadian location in downtown Toronto.
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[19-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So who's the next canadian PM now, then


[19-Sep-19 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure that's because the owners of the restaurant are actively bigot and openly flaunt supporting other bigoted orgs


[19-Sep-19 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
Oh also that


[19-Sep-19 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[19-Sep-19 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
tbh feels kinda nice to see Trudeau going down


[19-Sep-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's not like it was in the early 80s, it was 2001...


[19-Sep-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At that point everyone knew it was bad, as in knew knew, not don't care knew


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
next Canadian PM = a log


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the internet and electronic cameras (ie instantly digital photos) were a thing...


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just that, a tree log


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oak, not maple


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/09/trudeaus-popularity-skyrockets-in-quebec-after-revelation-of-brownface-photos/

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Alex Huntley
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/09/trudeaus-popularity-skyrockets-in-quebec-after-revelation-of-brownface-photos/
Trudeau's popularity skyrockets in Quebec after revelation of brow...
QUEBEC - An Angus Reid poll has indicated that Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has never been more popular in the province of Quebec since a 2001 high school yearbook revealed the then-teacher wearing brownface at a costume party.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/justin-trudeau-brownface.jpg


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
this is a joke site btw


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
like onion


[19-Sep-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
anywya


[19-Sep-19 08:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/russia-detains-shaman-mission-banish-putin-084137272.html

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Russia detains shaman on mission to 'banish Putin'
Russian police on Thursday said they had detained a Siberian shaman walking to Moscow on a mission to drive out President Vladimir Putin who he describes as a "demon".  Police in the eastern Siberian region of Buryatia said they had detained the shaman, Alexander Gabyshev, on...
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[19-Sep-19 08:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1174581183809761283

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Liveuamap (@Liveuamap)
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1174581183809761283
The shaman from Yakutia, Alexander Gabyshev, who is walking to Moscow to "expel President Putin," was detained this morning in Buryatia. Police deployed 2 buses of special forces in the operation https://t.co/BxGwBn2RyP  #Russia
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[19-Sep-19 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
new Turkic nomad horde when


[19-Sep-19 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
considering Russian politics as of now, a Turkic nomad horde would be better imo


[19-Sep-19 09:01 PM] ononim#8141
I prefer iranic nomads


[19-Sep-19 09:01 PM] ononim#8141
tfw no Scythian Priestess dom gf


[19-Sep-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exorcise russia 2020


[19-Sep-19 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I thought that said shadman for a moment...

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[19-Sep-19 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49763805

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Trudeau can't remember how often he wore blackface
Canada's PM Justin Trudeau admits he can't remember how often he wore blackface, as row deepens ahead of election
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[19-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[19-Sep-19 09:30 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[19-Sep-19 09:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
SIKH CANADA. SIKH CANADA. SIKH CANADA.


[19-Sep-19 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
heated Trudeau moment


[19-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ykNZl9mTQ

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Sandy Hook Promise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ykNZl9mTQ
Back-To-School Essentials | Sandy Hook Promise
Survive the school year with these must-have back to school essentials. https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/campaign **Please note that this PSA contains graphi...
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[19-Sep-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no idea how to respond to this :isee:


[19-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have to work around the NRA at this point


[19-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just design schools as inconvenient as possible


[19-Sep-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No straight hallways, walls to hide behind, dead ends


[19-Sep-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every school is now an escher painting


[19-Sep-19 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
every school a labirynth


[19-Sep-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think dead ends would be a bad idea because that adds in a herding strategy if shooters plan ahead for this shit...


[19-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Red flag laws are not going to be held up sadly


[19-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Curved walls is the big advantage


[19-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you seen those high schools in America? They have curved hallways


[19-Sep-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[19-Sep-19 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Make every school floorplan based off competitive Quake Arena maps


[19-Sep-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Design schools as esoteric Lovecraftian hellworlds.


[19-Sep-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
zelda dungeon schools


[19-Sep-19 09:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Skyrim dungeons


[19-Sep-19 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
design schools vertically


[19-Sep-19 09:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Complete with animal pillar puzzles and lethal traps


[19-Sep-19 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so students have to rocket jump more


[19-Sep-19 09:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
New York Jump Academy


[19-Sep-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so buiold the wayside school?


[19-Sep-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fun fact: before Abraham Lincoln invented stairs, everyone was used to ascending through floors by rocket jumping.


[19-Sep-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Every school is cp_Steel


[19-Sep-19 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this caused health problems, however, such as arthritis on the legs.


[19-Sep-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fortnite school of minecraft roblox


[19-Sep-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they need trap doors activated only during school shootings that drop the offender into a spike pit


[19-Sep-19 09:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This is why we need s hard border in Ireland. To stop the wrong kind of tayto.
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Trader in court for selling 'southern Tayto' to shops and pubs in ...
A CO Down trader who breached Northern Ireland crisps giant Tayto's trademark by selling the same name brand from the Republic, may be liable for damages.
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[19-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hottest take on climate change


[19-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Sep-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
>comments are disabled on this video


[19-Sep-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
like ratio is hidden


[19-Sep-19 10:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hot take: ponifying the Sandyhook video


[19-Sep-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Yona love her new pair of scissors"


[19-Sep-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Even as a dragon, socks do come in handy."


[19-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>yona, not snips


[19-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_cowering in the stair well_ "The stairs here are so cool!"


[19-Sep-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_covering head_ "My parents finally got me the cool saddlebags I wanted!"


[19-Sep-19 11:16 PM] ononim#8141

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[19-Sep-19 11:22 PM] Oatsy#4039
lmfao


[19-Sep-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Sep-19 11:33 PM] ononim#8141
Doesn't display for me :lightningmad:


[19-Sep-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I bet if we were a society for long enough onon would complain about loss being right wing propaganda


[19-Sep-19 11:34 PM] ononim#8141
nvm don't have a good joke to answer with


[19-Sep-19 11:34 PM] ononim#8141
I do wonder if pebble throw ever did a parody of it


[19-Sep-19 11:34 PM] ononim#8141
seems like a thing they would do


[19-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting

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[20-Sep-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1174712569879257089

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BREAKING: Colt Firearms is ending its production and sales of its AR-15 rifles due to lack of public demand. 

The @NRA’s #TrumpSlump is the gift that keeps on giving.  https://t.co/l83rvVgeiK
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[20-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/us/politics/saudi-military-iran.html

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Attacks Expose Flaws in Saudi Arabia’s Expensive Military
The Saudi military could not protect a prized asset — oil installations — from an attack by low-flying cruise missiles that caused a significant spike in crude oil prices.
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[20-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that saudi arabia would get destroyed by iran in a direct confrontation


[20-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
the saudis are too split up to put up an effective defense


[20-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
> For the past half-century, the United States has trained and supplied the Saudi military, selling the wealthy kingdom more than $150 billion in dazzling high-technology weapons, including fighter jets and air defense systems.


[20-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
> And yet, the kingdom could not protect a prized national asset — its oil installations — from a recent attack by low-flying cruise missiles and drones that caused the largest rise in crude oil prices in a single day. The advanced weapons the United States sold to the Saudis include the Patriot air-defense system, but it is deployed near important military installations, and not oil infrastructure.


[20-Sep-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Nor has the country’s military managed to defeat Iranian-backed Houthi insurgents in Yemen, despite a four-year, Saudi-led bombing campaign that has left more than 8,500 civilians dead and more than 9,600 injured, according to international monitors.


[20-Sep-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1174808543586701312

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Reid J. Epstein (@reidepstein)
https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1174808543586701312
Kamala Harris responds to a woman who says she’s scared Democrats will lose to Trump again.  “2020 will not be 2016, she said. “People are woke.
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[20-Sep-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
cringe


[20-Sep-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones/us-drone-strike-kills-30-pine-nut-farm-workers-in-afghanistan-idUSKBN1W40NW

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U.S. drone strike kills 30 pine nut farm workers in Afghanistan
A U.S. drone strike intended to hit an Islamic State (IS) hideout in Afghanistan...
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[20-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
> A U.S. drone strike intended to hit an Islamic State (IS) hideout in Afghanistan killed at least 30 civilians resting after a day’s labor in the fields, officials said on Thursday.
> 
> The attack on Wednesday night also injured 40 people after accidentally targeting farmers and laborers who had just finished collecting pine nuts at mountainous Wazir Tangi in eastern Nangarhar province, three Afghan officials told Reuters.


[20-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
> “The workers had lit a bonfire and were sitting together when a drone targeted them,” tribal elder Malik Rahat Gul told Reuters by telephone from Wazir Tangi.


[20-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This wording is incredibly suspicious.


[20-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, a highly advanced piece of american technology decided the bonfire was the target


[20-Sep-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
how is it suspicious?


[20-Sep-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
you think it's trying to be lenient on the US?


[20-Sep-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drones are remotely piloted


[20-Sep-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless something has changed recently, there was an actual person deciding the target.


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is likely that the information put out is trying to confuse what shit actually went down.


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Group of white dots all together? Gotta be terrists


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh, so you think that someone purposefully targetted civilians for a thrill


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
which isn't unheard of


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think some general was told by some guy that any group of guys was acceptable as likely being the target


[20-Sep-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
some guy then told the drone to fire


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think they had reason to believe there was an ISIS group in the area and the largest concentration of people out in the middle of nowhere fit the target ID


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
US wants everyone to believe that this was not actually intended.


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it was a farm


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it was specifically designated as a farm


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was a group of tents and a bonfire


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way the pentagon estimates killed insurgents


[20-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
is by classifying all military-age men as such


[20-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Haidar Khan, who owns the pine nut fields, said about 150 workers were there for harvesting, with some still missing as well as the confirmed dead and injured.


[20-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> A survivor of the drone strike said about 200 laborers were sleeping in five tents pitched near the farm when the attack happened.


[20-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to inflate numbers of killed insurgents and deflate numbers of killed civilians.


[20-Sep-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Attaullah Khogyani, a spokesman for the provincial governor said the aerial attack was meant to target IS militants who often use farmlands for training and recruitment purposes, but had hit innocent civilians.


[20-Sep-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it is very likely the intel they were given is "some IS guys might be heading out to a local farm to talk up their organization with some laborers, somewhere around here"


[20-Sep-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the response was to blow up people who could be the group IS was trying to recruit, or a completely different one.


[20-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
this is how you make terrorists


[20-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
by blowing up innocent bystanders


[20-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
the surviving innocent bystanders see other innocent bystanders get blown up and decide to fight those blowing them up


[20-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
because it's either fight and die, or don't fight and die


[20-Sep-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
and most people would choose to fight and die over not fighting and dying anyway


[20-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, when the US does this sort of thing, the message is that you either blow up for IS or blow up for the US.


[20-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both ways, explosions kill you and a bunch of innocents around, but IS is right there and you can talk to them, while the US is an overlord half the world away.


[20-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49751370

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Deadly Taliban attack 'destroys' hospital
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[20-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'm surprised there's no official US-sponsored militia or somesuch


[20-Sep-19 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
such is life in afghanistan

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[20-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, US blowing up innocent farmers, taliban blowing up hospitals


[20-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/us/politics/intelligence-whistle-blower-complaint-trump.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/19/us/politics/intelligence-whistle-blower-complaint-trump.html
Whistle-Blower’s Complaint Is Said to Involve Multiple Acts by Trump
The complaint goes beyond a commitment that President Trump was said to have made to a world leader.
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[20-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
> A potentially explosive complaint by a whistle-blower in the intelligence community said to involve President Trump was related to a series of actions that go beyond any single discussion with a foreign leader, according to interviews on Thursday.


[20-Sep-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
> The complaint was related to multiple acts, Michael Atkinson, the inspector general for American spy agencies, told lawmakers during a private briefing, two officials familiar with it said. But he declined to discuss specifics, including whether the complaint involved the president, according to committee members.


[20-Sep-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Separately, a person familiar with the whistle-blower’s complaint said it involves in part a commitment that Mr. Trump made in a communication with another world leader. The Washington Post first reported the nature of that discussion. But no single communication was at the root of the complaint, another person familiar with it said.


[20-Sep-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it sounds like an attempt to dilute the whistleblower complaint


[20-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
by spreading it out and making it seem like it's just an attempted political attack on the president instead of something to worry about


[20-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, I think what this is saying is


[20-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't just Trump promising he'd pull something for Putin


[20-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was that along with like, money transfers to staffers involved


[20-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone blew the whistle on something **big**


[20-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh won't mean anything


[20-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cover it up long enough, people get bored, move on


[20-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could you imagine if we found like, a check written by the president in the furtherance of a crime? Insanity!


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
there could be video evidence of trump raping a 13 year old, with her screaming to stop and to get off of her, released right now, and the trumpanzees would still support him


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what do you mean


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the president is a living god


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he's incapable of ever erring


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just gotta keep uncovering stuff until the election, Its


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all you can do in a Caesar situation.


[20-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't put him in jail until he loses, so use evidence of his many crimes to reduce his support some.


[20-Sep-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
pharaoh Donald


[20-Sep-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems are kind of smart with all of these public hearings because it makes the GOP look bad


[20-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then again, they know they're not gonna take the House back probably


[20-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate*


[20-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How? Colorado and Maine are the only safe flips


[20-Sep-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire contest is to hurtle the turtle.

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[20-Sep-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they don't get that, then it's 2 years of an absolute mess as Dems try to govern and Republicans slowly crumble.


[20-Sep-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6a792455121942f397e4e8a468223568

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Trump scores a victory in bicoastal battle over tax returns
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — President Donald Trump's efforts to keep his tax returns private played out on both coasts Thursday, with a California judge handing him an initial victory and his...
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[20-Sep-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Dems then win the midterms, they can do 2 years of stuff to secure reelection etc.


[20-Sep-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
> On the West Coast, a federal judge in Sacramento granted the Trump campaign’s request to block a new California law that requires presidential candidates to release five years of tax returns to run in the state’s March 2020 primaries. State officials are deciding whether to appeal.


[20-Sep-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
t r a n s p a r e n c y


[20-Sep-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
> He appeared swayed by arguments that the U.S. Constitution, not states, sets the qualifications to run for president and that a federal law requiring candidates to release financial information supersedes the state’s power to seek additional details.


[20-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
> “I don’t care how you skin the cat, it’s an unconstitutional law,” said Harmeet Dhillon, who represented the state and national Republican parties.


[20-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
> Republican lawyers also eagerly pointed to California’s former Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat who vetoed a similar law in 2017. Brown argued it would create a slippery slope that could lead states to impose requirements like medical records or college transcripts.


[20-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't see a problem with medical records and college transcripts being released if you want to run for public office, if you don't want your life to be made public, don't run for public office


[20-Sep-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[20-Sep-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's inevitable when you're a politician


[20-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
but even then, tax returns are kind of a different level from medical records and college transcripts


[20-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't the same


[20-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
like medical records are pretty private compared to what you do with your money


[20-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's medical records > college transcripts > tax returns from most private to least private


[20-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that's unconstitutional, then sore loser laws are too.


[20-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want an imperial presidency, we'll treat you like an absolute monarch

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[20-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, I'm surprised that emote has a use like every single day.


[20-Sep-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
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Today's episode in the ongoing series "The Guy With the Nuclear Codes Can't Keep Secrets"
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[20-Sep-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[20-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1174450157925982208

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Oh my god. Trump starts to discuss apparently sensitive technology deployed at the border. Asks the General in charge to describe the technology.

The General's response: "Sir, there could be some merit in not discussing that." https://t.co/FlSmiNTbLM
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[20-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
found the source


[20-Sep-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MeansNefarious/status/1174456930263359494

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@ScottMStedman Good on him for actually telling Trump "no." That guy showed more courage and patriotism in that one sentence than Congressional Repubs have shown in 3 years.
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[20-Sep-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
> Good on him for actually telling Trump "no." That guy showed more courage and patriotism in that one sentence than Congressional Repubs have shown in 3 years.


[20-Sep-19 04:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😂


[20-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/2019/09/19/07e33f0a-daf6-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html


[20-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
> A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter, which has set off a struggle between Congress and the executive branch.


[20-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.


[20-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, wasn't this the guy who had the TV show joking about the idea of him being president?


[20-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally, unless a hundred cameras and a thousand thousand spectator catch Trump slitting a child's throat, nothing will happen


[20-Sep-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing will happen even if they do film him


[20-Sep-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll reelect him in waves to own the libs


[20-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The GOP is too spineless to ever allow something to happen to the leader, and the dems are too cowardly to risk doing anything that won't be a 100% sure win


[20-Sep-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
democratic party is full of purists who will never approve of something that wins if it's "wrong"


[20-Sep-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[20-Sep-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(source: <https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/d66lsk/trumps_communications_with_foreign_leader_are/f0qydbs> )


[20-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[20-Sep-19 05:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Beto AMA on reddit

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[20-Sep-19 06:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that doesn't really answer the how.


[20-Sep-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shut up and run for Senate


[20-Sep-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
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No one likes Captain Britain (Guardians of the Galaxy 2013 #2)
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[20-Sep-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(comic made before Brexit, which makes it even funnier)


[20-Sep-19 10:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> confiscate ar15s and ak47s
Ar15  - confiscated with buyback
Ak47 - confiscated with voucher
Mosin-Nagant - confiscates the confiscation.


[20-Sep-19 10:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hey mosin nagant can be used for hunting


[20-Sep-19 11:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/white-house-limiting-staff-access-to-trumps-phone-calls-to-prevent-future-whistleblowers-cnn/

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White House limiting staff access to Trump’s phone calls to prev...
On Thursday’s edition of CNN’s “The Situation Room,” CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta reported that President Donald Trump has grown furious about the state of White House leaks, and his officials are working to keep as many people in the administration as pos...
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[20-Sep-19 12:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/09/20/sanders-vows-if-elected-pursue-criminal-charges-against-fossil-fuel-ceos-knowingly?cd-origin=rss

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Sanders Vows, If Elected, to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Fossi...
"They knew that it was real. Their own scientists told them that it was real. What do you do to people who lied in a very bold-faced way, lied to the American people, lied to the media?"
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[20-Sep-19 12:54 PM] ononim#8141
RIP to Bern, never knew a man of his age could twist his arm in such a way to shoot himself in the back of his head


[20-Sep-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They won;t assassinate him, they know he wont get far enough in the election to persue those charges


[20-Sep-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They also don;t care, they;ve been brought to court over this before and walked away with a slap on the fucking wrist


[20-Sep-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
multiple times


[20-Sep-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they already have trump doing their bidding, they run the EPA, and they just rolled back several environmental protection regulations. Even if they got brought to court, they already got what they wanted


[20-Sep-19 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A real threat to them would be an actual paradigm shift in election majority from boomers to millenials but right now they own the boomer law makers and the very few millenial law makers that exist right now have to deal with the rbick wall that is moscow mitch and his bolshevik boys


[20-Sep-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The real runners of the fossil fuel corporations arent the ceo's anyway, it;s the boards of directors and their share holders. They can throw those specific CEOs under a bus and have a new one tomorrow if they wanted


[20-Sep-19 01:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At this point it may as well be an AI


[20-Sep-19 01:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AIs run the stock market


[20-Sep-19 01:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And board members react on how the stock market reacts


[20-Sep-19 01:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If an AI glitches and sells after the company did something, the company will instantly reverse, because the AI indirectly ordered them to


[20-Sep-19 01:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I like the part where someone posted a fake news article and AI went crazy.


[20-Sep-19 01:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, I imagine there are AIs that check the "temperature" and trends of certain topics and inform other AIs about risk / profit


[20-Sep-19 01:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fun


[20-Sep-19 02:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Along the lines, if someone hacks the news agency and publish "unsettling" article for 1 minute,  then it could be abused


[20-Sep-19 02:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MunaNawabit1/status/1174928579081031681

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#LiveFromTheArea51Raid the kid that runs behind the reporter is going down in history 

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[20-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
amazing


[20-Sep-19 03:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Sep-19 03:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Am I just dumb or does anyone else not "get" this comic


[20-Sep-19 03:08 PM] Cloudy#3004
not at all


[20-Sep-19 03:12 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
"Healthy" food is more popular now?


[20-Sep-19 03:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I _think_ this is making fun of Ramsay/Zimmern who said they could make Chinese food better than most Americans had tasted?


[20-Sep-19 03:12 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The message isn't super clear


[20-Sep-19 03:13 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it's "people only like exotic/foreign food when famous chefs of their own nationality make it"


[20-Sep-19 03:13 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Which is a myth as more and more realizes the food pyramid should be inverted, carbs do bad, gluten is bad... ketogenic diet saves lives, every one should eat fat.


[20-Sep-19 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Eating fat in a solitary inactive society.


[20-Sep-19 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
OK fam


[20-Sep-19 03:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
hey nobody said it'd be easy


[20-Sep-19 03:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
hehehe


[20-Sep-19 03:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Original caption on comic I posted


[20-Sep-19 03:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Everyone loves food, but not everyone remembers to love the people who originally created it."


[20-Sep-19 03:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, is it an anti-fusion take?


[20-Sep-19 03:42 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking I think the take is "people made fun of 'exotic cusine and food as kids but now they're hipsters who are super into it because it's a new hip thing"


[20-Sep-19 03:45 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I see


[20-Sep-19 03:45 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Might have a good concept but it was poorly executed


[20-Sep-19 03:48 PM] ononim#8141
Read the posters behind them in the second panel


[20-Sep-19 03:49 PM] ononim#8141
They are talking about Filipino cusine and how cool it is because Big Name Says So


[20-Sep-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Children objectively have less tolerance of taste


[20-Sep-19 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's about how they only care about it because a white person is making it


[20-Sep-19 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might also be an anti fusion take too


[20-Sep-19 03:58 PM] ononim#8141
I don't see that


[20-Sep-19 03:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
I need to find my way into Detroit to eat there. Save for Ann Arbor's one Ethiopian joint (which you basically need to be a part of a party to really enjoy), most non-American restaurants are going to be run by people from that actual culture.


[20-Sep-19 03:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mexican Alley has some baller and cheap tacos from what I heard.


[20-Sep-19 03:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
A place opened up in town that serves the same tacos but worse, and at a massive mark up. And these are tiny tacos too and they expect five dollars for them.


[20-Sep-19 04:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't remember the last time I went to a restaurant serving non-American food that wasn't owned by at least someone who was second generation


[20-Sep-19 04:06 PM] ononim#8141
Moscow "east asian" cusine joing gothic is them trying to hire only people who "look" asian


[20-Sep-19 04:06 PM] ononim#8141
sushi bars full of buryats and yakuts because "non russian enough"


[20-Sep-19 04:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Most of the Japanese places here apparently hire only Cantonese.


[20-Sep-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/91a482a39d7949bb87ad66944984bbda

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https://apnews.com/91a482a39d7949bb87ad66944984bbda
German government agrees $60 billion climate policy package
BERLIN (AP) — Under pressure from environmental protests and a surge in support for the opposition Green party, the German government agreed Friday on a 54 billion euro ($60 billion) package of...
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[20-Sep-19 04:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjfRcgxzkRg

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjfRcgxzkRg
Students Put On Probation For Supporting Trump, You Cant Even Supp...
Support My Work - https://www.timcast.com/donate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKFIEjwyEY Buy stuff from me http://www.teespring.com/stores/timcast Become...
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[20-Sep-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was this during a school event?


[20-Sep-19 04:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Revolution will be swift and will not ignore any level of the social hierarchy.


[20-Sep-19 04:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Chuds will be swiftly eliminated.


[20-Sep-19 04:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it was right before the football game started


[20-Sep-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cheer leaders are alsoone of the faces of schools, so if the school cheer leading team is posing with election support banners, then it sends a message that thre school supports that specific candidate


[20-Sep-19 04:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so technically no it was not during the event.


[20-Sep-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds pretty during to me


[20-Sep-19 04:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the vid has more info


[20-Sep-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pre game is still part of the event


[20-Sep-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i dont watch timcast so there you go


[20-Sep-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provide article


[20-Sep-19 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is America, the true American nature will be unlocked for all the world to see so that it might destroy itself to sew a new society from the ashes. American itself will make Pol Pot look like Gahndi.


[20-Sep-19 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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Childish Gambino - This Is America (Official Video)
“This is America” by Childish Gambino http://smarturl.it/TcIgA Director: Hiro Murai Producer: Jason Cole of Doomsday with Ibra Ake and Fam Rothstein of Wolf ...
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[20-Sep-19 04:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
article is show in vid. along with the site and article title and the body of the article


[20-Sep-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provide article first person, not thorugh a talking figure


[20-Sep-19 04:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you are free to look for it. i have to go pack


[20-Sep-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/north-carolina/cheerleading-squad-suspended-after-trump-banner-displayed/986831918

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Cheerleading squad suspended after Trump banner displayed
NEW LONDON, N.C. (AP) - A high school cheerleading squad in North Carolina is on probation after some cheerleaders posed with a banner supporting President Donald Trump before a football game.
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[20-Sep-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s against school policy to display political signs


[20-Sep-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
that's kind of a bullshit policy tbh


[20-Sep-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
also yes that does seem like a "hipster culture" comic


[20-Sep-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I kinda get why it;s a thing in the case of a football game...


[20-Sep-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
football and politics have dodgy history


[20-Sep-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
football is not known for it;s non rioters


[20-Sep-19 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1175016817116569603

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[20-Sep-19 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
The Centrist Republic of Korea


[20-Sep-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the whistle blower thing might have to do with trump possibly blackmailing the ukraine with possible refusal of military aid to keep russia at bay if they don;t hand him information about biden in 2020


[20-Sep-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/20/trump-said-doesnt-matter-if-he-asked-ukraine-investigate-biden/2383506001/

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Trump says 'it doesn't matter' if he asked Ukraine to investigate ...
House Democrats seek details of a still-secret complaint against Donald Trump filed by a member of the intelligence community.
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[20-Sep-19 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://splinternews.com/black-leaders-condemn-attacks-by-sanders-supporters-ami-1838259737?rev=1568932819970

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Black Leaders Sign Letter Condemning Attacks by Sanders Supporters
In a draft letter obtained by Splinter on Thursday, dozens of prominent black progressive leaders condemned the “hateful, violent, and racist threats” they said  have been leveled by  “self-identified [Bernie] Sanders supporters” against black leaders in the wake of t...
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[20-Sep-19 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a catch


[20-Sep-19 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/neeneinnyetno/status/1174867154400940032?s=21


[20-Sep-19 05:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fun


[20-Sep-19 05:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-all-out-war-us-saudi-oil-bombings

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Iran warns of ‘all-out war’ if US retaliates in wake of Saudi ...
Iran is warning Thursday that an "all-out war” could break out if any country attacks it following weekend bombings of Saudi Arabia’s oil facilities that the U.S. believes Tehran orchestrated.
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[20-Sep-19 05:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
On one hand: We shouldn't throw Isfahan under the bus like this, then we're just barbarians. We are, actually.


[20-Sep-19 05:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the other: OVER EXTEND AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. BREAK BABY BREAK. LET'S END THIS EXPERIMENT


[20-Sep-19 05:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU94Q_JfFhU

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Bat'ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU94Q_JfFhU
HOLY HELL ITS HAPPENING
A C C E L E R A T I O N I S M
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[20-Sep-19 05:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the third hand: Trump has a comically short attention span and ten bucks on him going on a pissing match with Germany


[20-Sep-19 05:53 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Sep-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
That thumnnail is on point


[20-Sep-19 06:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/panic-in-the-sky-delta-flight-from-atlanta-plunges-nearly-30-000-feet/987851866

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DELTA FLIGHT PLUNGES: Delta flight from Atlanta plunges nearly 30,...
A Delta Air Lines pilot had to make a rapid, controlled descent of nearly 30,000 feet after getting an alarm on an Atlanta flight.
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[20-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/donald-trump-robert-obrien-national-security-adviser/index.html

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Trump names new national security adviser
President Donald Trump named Robert O'Brien, the US hostage negotiator, his new national security adviser on Wednesday.
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[20-Sep-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/16/hillary-clinton-impeachment-memo-trump-228107

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Hillary Clinton’s Zombie Impeachment Memo That Could Help Fell Trump
A congressional report Clinton helped pen during Watergate was later used to justify impeaching her husband. Now it's guiding Democrats angling to oust Trump.
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[20-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting


[20-Sep-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
>"54 billion euro ($60 billion)"


[20-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man we're reaching a point soon where dollars, euros, and pounds are basically the same thing


[20-Sep-19 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1174728891715522566

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https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1174728891715522566
Listen, I'm not a "wokescold" by any stretch of the imagination, but let's face facts:

Blackface DID originate in the mocking and dehumanization of enslaved blacks in the American South.

It's ugly and bigoted.
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[20-Sep-19 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is happening


[20-Sep-19 08:18 PM] ononim#8141
Stefan "Brocken Clock" Molyneux


[20-Sep-19 08:18 PM] ononim#8141
Stefan "Only Time I Will Not Be Racist Is To Own The Libs" Molyneux


[20-Sep-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Congrats you're like 99% of people that know it isn't ok


[20-Sep-19 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
And only because it's a chance for him to not only attack a figure he doesn't like, but to do so in a way that makes him nominally agreeable for the normal apolitical types.


[20-Sep-19 08:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Yes, punching down is bad I agree u r vrry smrt molyneux"


[20-Sep-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah he might be doing this to willfully deceive


[20-Sep-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
He had an opportunity to make a too hot a take that doesn't do anything to detract from him and might give him some attention to people who may not otherwise listen, and whose disposition may be influenced as being a little more positive to him.


[20-Sep-19 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
But now at this point I'm just repeating myself.


[20-Sep-19 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Moly-meme's history of Rome takes are still really wrong tho.


[20-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/624594457571885066
> >Eating fat in a solitary inactive society.


[20-Sep-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
the body has to work harder to process fat


[20-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
it absorbs it pretty much instantly, but it has to convert it into glucose before it converts it back into body fat


[20-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
carbs it can just instantly convert into body fat


[20-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
there were a bunch of studies conducted by sugar-related companies (hershey's, nestle, coca-cola, etc) back in the 60's on the effects of sugar


[20-Sep-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
the actual data concluded that sugar would cause obesity


[20-Sep-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
but they changed the conclusion to instead blame dietary fat


[20-Sep-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
and never released the data until a few years ago (I don't think they did it willingly, pretty sure it was a subpoena)


[20-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
basically, those studies are why a ton of processed food had dietary fat replaced with filler carbs


[20-Sep-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
and is basically the reason why there's such rampant obesity problems in the US today


[20-Sep-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

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50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blam...
Documents show that in the '60s, the sugar industry funded Harvard researchers who, examining risk factors of heart disease, dismissed concerns about sugar and doubled down on the dangers of fat.
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[20-Sep-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
apparently some new information came out last year saying it wasn't quite as bad as "big sugar pays off scientists to say fat is bad"


[20-Sep-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
they were approached by sugar companies after they released their own diet study that concluded that low-fat diets reduced cholesterol


[20-Sep-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
but the sugar companies were doing it to amplify the attack on dietary fat and shift blame away from sugar


[20-Sep-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
well, carbs are cheaper


[20-Sep-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
and people tend to be more compulsively addicted to sweet foods than savory ones


[20-Sep-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
companies have also figured out that the fatty foods are better for you and more people are going for it, so they're doing the classic "raise the price of the popular diet foods" thing


[20-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ethical consumerism is just another things companies want to twist around into exploitation.


[20-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is the moment you hav a reason to prefer a product, they'll charge you more for it.


[20-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why it doesn't really work.


[20-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This forces away people on price to the worse stuff while rewarding a company that focuses their efforts on the rich.


[20-Sep-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it just makes people stop buying your shit


[20-Sep-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried to move on toa fatty foods diet but i hit a hard wall because that shit is now super fucking expensive for no fucking reason other than "Because people want it"


[20-Sep-19 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/16/753712449/npr-shopping-cart-economics-how-prices-changed-at-a-walmart-in-1-year

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NPR Shopping Cart Economics: How Prices Changed At A Walmart In 1 Year
Since August 2018, NPR has been tracking about 80 items sold at a Georgia Walmart with an eye toward products caught in the trade war. On average, prices rose 3%. Tariffs are one of many factors.
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[20-Sep-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and don;t get me started on this low fat bullshit. "Oh god people are onto the fat thing! remove it from all the foods!"


[20-Sep-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt call it bullshit except for the fact that they removed all the normal versions from store shelves


[20-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Oatsy#4039
At this point like


[20-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Oatsy#4039
Even when I tried to do keto or low carb


[20-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Oatsy#4039
there's just so few options


[20-Sep-19 10:19 PM] Oatsy#4039
you basically can't ever eat out either which is just ugh


[20-Sep-19 10:20 PM] Oatsy#4039
unless you're salad menu for life


[20-Sep-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don;t think i coudl ever completely cut carbs because that shit has infected everything, but i tried to atleast incorporate an uppage of fat and a downsizing of carbs... for 2 days before realizing the american food market has made that impossible to do


[20-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
I mean


[20-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
it's not impossible


[20-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
it's just


[20-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
monotonous?


[20-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
I guess


[20-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Oatsy#4039
I can do it for a while, but yeah


[20-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Oatsy#4039
Too broke to keep it up long term


[20-Sep-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even eat out, i;m just broke as fuck


[20-Sep-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
My rule is "eat less"


[20-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Oatsy#4039
which that helps to accomplishj


[20-Sep-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
It's all specific tasks that help you eat less


[20-Sep-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
For me I now skip breakfast and eat light lunches


[20-Sep-19 11:00 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
skip breakfast, heavy lunch, heavy dinner


[20-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Oatsy#4039
If I skip breakfast, not going to be able to walk like 10 miles carrying stuff around for my job lol


[20-Sep-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I eat breakfast, skip lunch, eat dinner


[20-Sep-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I too eat sinners


[20-Sep-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
in the name of the lord


[20-Sep-19 11:06 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
✝


[20-Sep-19 11:07 PM] Oatsy#4039
hue


[20-Sep-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Comrade Aaraon tackles in part the Malthusian myth https://derpibooru.org/generals/tartarus/post/4528248#post_4528248

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Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) - Ge...
Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[20-Sep-19 11:36 PM] Oatsy#4039
yey


[20-Sep-19 11:37 PM] Oatsy#4039
legit an actual yay, thank you


[20-Sep-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
"We can technocracy our way out of this?"


[20-Sep-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
"No because the means are already there, but like any conservative liberal you seek to maintain the class relations as opposed to entirely wiping it to achieve a holistic approach that will just not replicate relations on Mars."


[20-Sep-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also because I love Stupid City: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFF0UIUb8gs

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Stupid City - Civic Thicc
Whether you love Brutalism or hate it, whether you're Team JFK or Team Khrushchev, there's a little something for everyone in the newest episode of STUPID CI...
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[20-Sep-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hot-take: Rome died because while they had concrete, they never developed brutalism. :^)


[20-Sep-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Sep-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Sep-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like Bismuth, the most aesthetic of all minerals


[20-Sep-19 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I saw a creature yesterday
> In the filth of the courtyard
> Picking up food from the debris.

> When it found something,
> It neither analyzed nor smelled it:
> It swallowed it with voracity.

> The creature was not a dog,
> It was not a cat,
> It was not a rat.

> The creature, my God, was a man.
By Brazilian modernist poet Manuel Bandeira


[21-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/1175145439487676416/photo/1

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[21-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Oatsy#4039
Ew, brutalism


[21-Sep-19 12:18 AM] ononim#8141

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[21-Sep-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
>He hates brutalism


[21-Sep-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
excuse me but I have never heard a statement so anti-democratic. Can you imagine living in a space built to reflect the human life within, as the same human life changes it? Every wall a canvas, every window a changed curtain. A breathing living space not defined by the strict stylistic codes it was built to as any slight change might disrupt it's mis-callibrated plan. Or even if it were to be built in a natural space: to be readily annexed into the nature it was put into and thus minimally disturb the nature around it, as opposed to the ostentatious ego of the Château de Versailles.


[21-Sep-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/461868-texas-teacher-who-asked-trump-to-deport-undocumented-students

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Texas teacher who asked Trump to deport undocumented students is fired
A high school teacher from Texas who captured headlines earlier this year after she used her Twitter account to
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[21-Sep-19 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not to mention it can probably cost like a thousand dollars to build and costs 5% of your income and not 80% to rent out. So even if it's ugly you automatically win a higher standard of living and can afford to go out with friends or even work twenty hours a week.


[21-Sep-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[21-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Oatsy#4039
We already have enough housing, it's just being priced to keep poor people out


[21-Sep-19 02:15 AM] Oatsy#4039
As many prices are already basically arbitrary


[21-Sep-19 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cities have entire apartment complexes going unused because some foreign real estate companies thought they would make good investments and refuse to take tenants


[21-Sep-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty much. Ultimately no new housing needs to be built since all the supply is there. Even many luxury apartments are rarely ever lived in most of the year and fill up large floor space. Arguably, these could be subdivided several times to make dozens of large family spaces per each floor of a luxury high-rise.


[21-Sep-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
The idea of NYC's Pencil Tower phenomenon entire floors are a single condo for a single person or family, and those are still large floors. There could be several. Additional housing stock could be made in New York alone by dividing up these un or underused spaces.


[21-Sep-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
durign housing market crashes it gets even worse with bank investors buying up houses from poorer families and evictign them so the hosue can sit and collect dust for collectors sake


[21-Sep-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump also did this during the 2008 housing crash, only he turned most of those lots into failing casinos


[21-Sep-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
1/8 houses in california are empty


[21-Sep-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
1/15 people are homeless


[21-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
there's almost twice the number of empty houses as there are homeless people


[21-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, that might actually just be california


[21-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-state-is-home-to-nearly-half-of-all-people-living-on-the-streets-in-the-us-2019-09-18

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The Trump administration proposed multiple solutions to the homelessness crisis, including deregulation and policing.
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[21-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
> All told, 47% of all unsheltered homeless people nationwide — meaning those who sleep in areas not meant for habitation, such as sidewalks, parks, cars and abandoned buildings, rather than in shelters — live in the Golden State, according to a new report on homelessness from the White House Council of Economic Advisers. Unsheltered homeless people represent just over a third (35%) of the overall homeless population nationwide.


[21-Sep-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the streets run bright with liquid gold in the golden state


[21-Sep-19 03:14 AM] ononim#8141

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[21-Sep-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) I know this is a joke but I remember a line I heard somewhere from a old labor organizer I think who was recalling how immigrants came to America expecting a country with streets paved with gold... They didn't think they were the ones to have to BUILD those roads.


[21-Sep-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Trump, in call, urged Ukraine to investigate Biden's son
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump urged the new leader of Ukraine this summer to investigate the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, a person familiar with the matter said Friday....
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[21-Sep-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4d4ce92397ba44a68bedd60edb2aee36


[21-Sep-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump to send troops to saudi arabia ^


[21-Sep-19 03:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Watch as Trump's attention pivots to Ukraine for absolutely no reason and Iran is randomly dropped.


[21-Sep-19 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
This begins the country's pivot to awkwardly threatening Europe.


[21-Sep-19 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s picking fights with atleast 5 different countries now just to try and bolster his 2020 image and itls going to backfire, maybe not in election results, but in soem other way


[21-Sep-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>absolutely no reason


[21-Sep-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay let's break this down


[21-Sep-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[21-Sep-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
First and foremost is the apparent confirmation that Trump's personal lawyer just corroborated the rumors that the whistleblower's allegations reference, in part, a request that Ukraine investigates Biden (and that the witholding of aid money was connected to this). That's in conjunction with his no/yes answer earlier where Rudy initially denied any wrongdoing, but when asked if Trump had made such a request he said "of course he did."
Second is just...why? Why would we go through a foreign government to investigate a US citizen? The correct channel would be DOJ to state department to the legal attache in an embassy, and *then* to a law enforcement agency there, without involving the foreign government's leader. Especially under *their* laws...
...of a "well known corrupt country." And speaking of millions from Ukraine, Trump offered more money to Ukraine after witholding the original offer of aid money. During which time he allegedly "did his job" and committed a little light treason.
But Trump claims he's too smart to make such a request over the phone. So why does Giuliani think he ought to? Unless there were another connection to Ukraine...such as the obvious country with a vested interest in someone else taking the fall for election interference...or *this photo of Giuliani from earlier today*


[21-Sep-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[21-Sep-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's Lev Parnas, Ukranian/Russian businessman, who is currently as we speak under federal investigation for funnelling hundreds of thousands into a Trump SuperPAC.


[21-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1175194233034162176

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As a parent of young kids I believe rampant access to pornography is a real problem. We need to empower families to be able to moderate what our kids see and when.
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[21-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
F in the chat for the Yang Gang.


[21-Sep-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really does look like a bunch of the democratic candidates are trying to scuttle their campaigns at the last minute


[21-Sep-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
O'Rourke most efficiently, but Biden most comprehensively


[21-Sep-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and who even knows with Harris


[21-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yang is realistically just talking about tools parents already have.


[21-Sep-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
probably, yeah


[21-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are apps that alert you if your kid goes to restricted sites.


[21-Sep-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've seen such apps. I've talked to people I know to be college-age who are trying to get out from under such intentional spyware


[21-Sep-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do believe it's a problem. Those tools might help. But they should be used wisely. And I think the problem begins far earlier with just...toddler-proof tablets with web access and parents relying on firewalls, and not teaching, to keep kids safe


[21-Sep-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It amazes me that the same parents who won't let their kids walk next door without a chaperone are using youtube to babysit their kids


[21-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think accessing pornography is not dangerous, and setting removal of it as a goal is a problem because all "solutions" to the "problem" inevitably lead to constant monitoring and control that only teaches kids to hav no agency. If you want kids to grow up as adults, you need to slowly treat them as such.


[21-Sep-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
agreed


[21-Sep-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but also elsa spiderman takes a different approach to combating


[21-Sep-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Regardless of what you personally define as dangerous content on the internet, "just grow up" is not an applicable solution in every case


[21-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elsa Spiderman is not dangerous, it's just mindless filler.


[21-Sep-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You apparently don't know what I'm referencing


[21-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know very well.


[21-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with that kind of content is the recommendation algorithms, everything being put there for the kid instead of asking them for their own input. It leads to easy viewfarming that lowers content quality.


[21-Sep-19 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I think the ones that involved, say, physical abuse of the actors *aren't* just mindless filler


[21-Sep-19 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and also the stuff that wrapped shock content in algorithm-friendly keywords


[21-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a separate concern of worker treatment.


[21-Sep-19 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"worker treatment?" The actors were *kids*


[21-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's a further problem


[21-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you shouldn't conflate issues of how something is produced with how it is consumed.


[21-Sep-19 04:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If it's produced because they know it'll be consumed without supervision...


[21-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If cows are beaten to death to make burger, the problem isn't kids eating the burger, it's that the burger production is allowed in that way.


[21-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is incredibly-flawed reasoning.


[21-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Such things will always inevitably be noticed by a person who is not a kid.


[21-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the percentage of audience that cares has little effect on whether the production will be investigated.


[21-Sep-19 04:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Are you meaning to tell me that this content didn't try to game Youtube's algorithm to autoplay or get clickbaited off of legit content?


[21-Sep-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I am saying that gaming autoplay doesn't render you far less likely to be investigated when you do scummy shit to your actors.


[21-Sep-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are conflating different things.


[21-Sep-19 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm saying they fabricated the content in such a way as to get views (and thus revenue) by exploiting people putting a kid's video on autoplay


[21-Sep-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I highly doubt the stuff like elsa-pregnany animations would even attract attention *to* be investigated if they weren't trying for that


[21-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look if your kid stumbles on porn and is confused about it you need to talk to them and not rely on an app


[21-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elsagate shit aside


[21-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which I'm amazed Disney didn't turn into an official crossover honestly


[21-Sep-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
why would they


[21-Sep-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I'm not sure what your argument is on the treatment of the actors...as I said, separately there should be more investigation of such poor treatment, unrelated to concerns over what kids watch.


[21-Sep-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm saying the method in which content is consumed created the environment for these content creators to produce said objectionable content


[21-Sep-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's the case.


[21-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abusing actors has always had a huge market, adult or child.


[21-Sep-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...and profit from it


[21-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children's viewing preferences just prefer that which is fast-paced and "busy", they don't really prefer more abusiveness.


[21-Sep-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, look, I know youtube hosts a whole bunch of stuff that just slips under the radar. Just search the word "burlesque" and see what isn't age-gated


[21-Sep-19 04:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the point I'm making here is that it doesn't really matter what the children's viewing preferences are


[21-Sep-19 04:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm talking about the age range of kids who are just gripping a padded iPad in the shopping cart watching the umpteenth baby shark remix


[21-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what is your actual argument?


[21-Sep-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My argument is that because the system was able to present uncurated content to kids, relying only on user-submitted keywords and other data, elsagate was made possible. Take away the access and the scandal of "kids are seeing this" evaporates into "what if kids could see this"


[21-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply I think that's ridiculous.


[21-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are ascribing the factors that contributed to a particular thing being made as being ultimately responsible for a certain aspect of it being made.


[21-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it is clear that content made by abusing child actors could be made under entirely-different circumstances because the driving forces behind it are not unique to what you are identifying as the problem.


[21-Sep-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That was not the problem


[21-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what is the problem?


[21-Sep-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course there are always gonna be weirdos. The problem is how *easy* it was for them to find an audience


[21-Sep-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr the algorithm was an enabler


[21-Sep-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, I think that's where you're totally wrong.


[21-Sep-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The algorithm is not responsible for the particular nature of content having child actors be abused.


[21-Sep-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The algorithm is favoring content that's fast-paced, relies on immediate reactions, and is "cute" in nature, because it favors what kids want.


[21-Sep-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abusive stuff really isn't favored by all that compared to the usual favoring of content on YouTube.


[21-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The algorithm is responsible only for making lazy filler reach a wider audience than it should; not for making things weird or abusive.


[21-Sep-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So you're suggesting that the problem of parents setting up a device to play youtube videos on autoplay and then walking away is a strawman argument?


[21-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm suggesting that you're blaming it for what is actually an inherent property of online video preferences.


[21-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Autoplay isn't making things weirder, it's just making things lazier.


[21-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Online culture embraces and encourages weirdness as a whole.


[21-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which possibly reflects an innate desire in humans to seek out the unusual.


[21-Sep-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Once again I'm not saying they made more weird content just to take advantage of the system, I'm saying the system allowed for weird content to be served to an *unwilling* captive audience


[21-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the blame there is improper.


[21-Sep-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the content creators profited from that


[21-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider the analog in the physical world


[21-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, cheaply-made videos mailed out to houses at random.


[21-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some such videos will be weird, edgy, produced with actors who aren't even paid and are beaten onscreen.


[21-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not the factors making things cheap that is to blame for that.


[21-Sep-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not really an analog because the videos don't play themselves, do they?


[21-Sep-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a closer analog might be local access TV in the 90s


[21-Sep-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps, but I don't really think that matters much here. You would always hav families watching the videos with no idea of their content.


[21-Sep-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
now imagine that the late-night local access programming were available 24/7


[21-Sep-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what you are really arguing here is autoplay is a problem because children are unable to decide what to watch and thus could watch content they don't want to?


[21-Sep-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, because of the specific situation of parents treating it as a babysitter


[21-Sep-19 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is equally if not more so part of the problem - in fact, it's 90% of the problem


[21-Sep-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I doubt parents would have done that if they didn't trust, on some level, that the system *would* prevent unwanted content from being recommended


[21-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is where the youtube kid's app in its original iteration ties in


[21-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply I believe it's entirely nonsensical to believe a system that will traverse in a possible cycle many videos leapfrogging from one to the next based on patterns will never encounter something that you, or others, believe is not okay for kids to watch.


[21-Sep-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But furthermore, I would place the problem in the kid having no control, not on the parents.


[21-Sep-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it happened


[21-Sep-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube should in its UI make it hard for someone intellectually barely-existent to be stukk not sufficiently knowing how to get out of autoplay.


[21-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a kid wants to watch some weird elsagate crap, let them, but don't leave it in front of them when they don't know how to get out of it.


[21-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately autoplay should be something only for a given list of videos and off by default IMO


[21-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leads to too many problems.


[21-Sep-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's basically what I'm saying


[21-Sep-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm also saying that because that *wasn't* the case, the system was exploited


[21-Sep-19 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I really doubt the content, the viewership of such, and the reception of said content by the audience is or was relevant to these creators when revenue is based soley on minutes watched


[21-Sep-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially not when all the "elsagate" videos were in excess of 10 minutes


[21-Sep-19 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Sep-19 03:17 PM] Lucky424#1730
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Climate protesters glue themselves to road
The Extinction Rebellion activists are taking part in a protest near the Port of Dover.
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[21-Sep-19 08:14 PM] illumnious#7938
I know it’s been 3 weeks but damm 
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New immigration rule restricts US citizenship for certain children
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[21-Sep-19 08:14 PM] illumnious#7938
I have so much questions to ask


[21-Sep-19 08:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What questions do you have? Trump has extremely little regard for the military and absolutely zero for non-european immigrants


[21-Sep-19 08:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so this rule, which most impacts military families, comes as no surprise


[21-Sep-19 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Did the bill passed for this shit to change?


[21-Sep-19 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well first of all it's coming directly from the USCIS


[21-Sep-19 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's set to take effect in October


[21-Sep-19 08:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They basically said "the policy we're following doesn't line up with existing law" so no bills went through congress over this


[21-Sep-19 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
“It only affects children who were born outside the US and were not US citizens,” ie. green-card military families


[21-Sep-19 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
what about the people who born like from the year 1999, does that affect them?


[21-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what it actually does is


[21-Sep-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it changes an automatic granting of citizenship for soldiers' children to be manual, requiring the parents to file forms


[21-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it also makes it harder for children of gov't workers who aren't soldiers to get citizenship when born abroad


[21-Sep-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I figure you mean "soldiers' children"


[21-Sep-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[21-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[21-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Little Timmy's mom won't take him


[21-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Little Timmy's dad won't either


[21-Sep-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so he's fukked!


[21-Sep-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas before he'd hav citizenship automatically so he'd be going home with his dad, a US soldier.


[21-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea of the change is to screw over helpless children by turning a common sense automatic bit of bureaucracy into a hurdle allowing US soldiers to leave their offspring in bumfukkistan where the mom likely won't want them.


[21-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony


[21-Sep-19 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ingame atm can'tt alk


[21-Sep-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, it specifically states that it applies to children born abroad to US citizens and non-US citizens coming in to the US to give birth


[21-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
the bigger one is the first part, that's going to piss off a loooot of people


[22-Sep-19 12:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Sep-19 12:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
(Chinese badwords)


[22-Sep-19 12:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
These "more than 200000 fake accounts" include many furry artists in Chinese mainland I followed.


[22-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh


[22-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
seems like a way to make a quick buck


[22-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
or they mistakenly retweeted a lot of fake account stuff, to the point that they appeared to be fake accounts themselves


[22-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
or twitter's padding numbers, could be any of these


[22-Sep-19 12:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The "4301 accounts" are news medias and critics in Chinese mainland.


[22-Sep-19 12:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And the "200000 fake account" might be the ones who retweeted their tweets frequently.


[22-Sep-19 12:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of them are some insignificant someone... except my favorite furry porns artist


[22-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
West frankly doesn't really care I think


[22-Sep-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I think it's more trump appeasement than anything else


[22-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How


[22-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
he's been going after social media in general for "censoring the conservatives" or whatever


[22-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
and so to appease him, they're showing that they're also going after china


[22-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
whether or not it hits a few thousand innocent accounts doesn't really matter to twitter or trump


[22-Sep-19 01:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck


[22-Sep-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
basically, twitter might be trying to stave off all the antitrust stuff that's being brought up


[22-Sep-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
by appeasing the flaky president


[22-Sep-19 01:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But it matters to me... I can't find any better social media to find furry porns


[22-Sep-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
obviously, you have to become president of china in order to find all the furry porns


[22-Sep-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
granted, I'm pretty sure liking furry porns automatically disqualifies people from being the president of china


[22-Sep-19 01:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yeah.


[22-Sep-19 01:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It might be even worse than liking child porns


[22-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Winnie the Pooh R34.


[22-Sep-19 01:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, why do you call Winnie... I mean, Uncle Xi a "president"?


[22-Sep-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
> Xi Jinping (/ʃiː dʒɪnˈpɪŋ/; Chinese: 习近平; Mandarin pronunciation: [ɕǐ tɕîn.pʰǐŋ]; born 15 June 1953) is a Chinese politician serving as General Secretary of the Communist Party of China (CPC), President of the People's Republic of China (PRC), and Chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC).


[22-Sep-19 01:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The literal translation of "主席" should be "chairman"


[22-Sep-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't twitter banned?


[22-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
he has 3 positions


[22-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
> General Secretary of the Communist Party of China (CPC)


[22-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
> President of the People's Republic of China (PRC)


[22-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
> Chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC)


[22-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
chairman is one of them


[22-Sep-19 01:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But both this "president" and this "chairman" are written as "主席" in Chinese


[22-Sep-19 01:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just translated differently and idk why


[22-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

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[22-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
> The presidency was abolished under the Constitution of 1975, then reinstated in the Constitution of 1982, but with reduced powers. The official English-language translation of the title was "Chairman"; after 1982, this translation was changed to "President", although the Chinese title remains unchanged.


[22-Sep-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
weird


[22-Sep-19 01:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh...


[22-Sep-19 01:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I think we don't have separated power as the US or other countries with "president"


[22-Sep-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
the "president" in china doesn't actually have any power, it's just a ceremonial position now


[22-Sep-19 01:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes. The position of "Chairman of the CMC" is the most important one


[22-Sep-19 01:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The Literature Revolution and the Reform and Opening-up are neither led by our "president"


[22-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/09/20/missing-new-jersey-teens-photos-show-up-on-sex-trafficking-websites/

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https://nypost.com/2019/09/20/missing-new-jersey-teens-photos-show-up-on-sex-trafficking-websites/
Missing New Jersey teen’s photos show up on sex trafficking websites
A New Jersey mom desperately searching for her 17-year-old daughter is now beside herself — after authorities told her this week that the teen’s photo is showing up on sex trafficking website…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/aviana-weaver.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[22-Sep-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[22-Sep-19 02:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean, it's the NYPost


[22-Sep-19 02:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Their articles don't tend to always be super true


[22-Sep-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing in this article suggesting that what is stated isn't true


[22-Sep-19 02:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I see


[22-Sep-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like Warren is really pulling ahead in polls.


[22-Sep-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also Buttigieg passed Harris


[22-Sep-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yang, Beto and Booker all hovering around 3


[22-Sep-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
percent?


[22-Sep-19 02:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[22-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is like 20% and Biden 18% in Iowa


[22-Sep-19 02:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
RCP has Beto at 3.2, Yang at 3 and Booker at 2.8


[22-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren cowrote one of my textbooks.


[22-Sep-19 02:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yuh I think you mentioned that before


[22-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's dense as fuck and makes bad jokes.


[22-Sep-19 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also this: https://mobile.twitter.com/ssamcham/status/1173561092351692802


[22-Sep-19 02:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also I saw that video of Warren questioning a Wells Fargo CEO


[22-Sep-19 02:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Warmed me up to her significantly


[22-Sep-19 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really does seem like the *only* dirt anyone has on warren is the native american ancestry thing


[22-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
there's no dirt on bernie


[22-Sep-19 02:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
People on the right will be desperate to paint him as a Commie


[22-Sep-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's because they have no dirt on bernie


[22-Sep-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, there *is* the tiny bit about how the russians helped his campaign too, simply because they did that for everyone and he's the only one running again


[22-Sep-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but mostly it just seems like the only thing that makes him unlikeable is that he isn't a centrist


[22-Sep-19 02:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They only have Pocahontas but they won't ever shut up about it


[22-Sep-19 02:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's good news


[22-Sep-19 02:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If that's their only dirt they're fucked


[22-Sep-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well if you're into doublethink it doesn't matter. *Someone got disbarred over it*


[22-Sep-19 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*Clearly that is a more flagrant crime than being under constant federal investigation from multiple angles every day of your presidency*


[22-Sep-19 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
imagine if Pelosi wasn't hung up about impeachment. Where would we be now


[22-Sep-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same spot.


[22-Sep-19 02:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't think impeachment would work


[22-Sep-19 02:55 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Has to go through the Senate


[22-Sep-19 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think that statement is based on an understanding of how impeachment *has* worked


[22-Sep-19 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only dirt on Warren is the Native American thing. There's nothing else.


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony people get disbarred over commiting a felony all the time


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, the number of presidents who left office because of impeachment proceedings is greater than the number of presidents who have actually been impeached. And the number of presidents that have actually been *removed* via impeachment is next to nothing


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Doesn't the Senate have to vote


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And the Senate is majority Rep


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A president should be able to be indicted in office


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And well, they're quite partisan


[22-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any president


[22-Sep-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Legally, yes. But the thing is that generally it hasn't ever needed to get that far for it to have the intended outcome


[22-Sep-19 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course that's with the understanding that at least on some level the justice system was respected in good faith, and we are currently faced with a president that an entire party believes to be not only above the law, but can't be indicted and *can't even be investigated*


[22-Sep-19 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, this is not just on Trump. There's enough of a concerted effort and enough collective condoning of obstruction of justice that they can just...ignore supoenas and the legally required process...and there have been no consequences


[22-Sep-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
you need a 2/3rds majority in the senate to actually throw out an impeached president


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also Clinton's failed impeachment actually boosted his popularity


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
andrew johnson (lincoln's VP) was impeached but missed being thrown out by 1 vote


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans have no spine


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
so there's no chance for a 2/3


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You think Democrats have much of a spine right now, either?


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
lincoln's VP is why we have a racist south in america still


[22-Sep-19 03:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You know Trump, he won't bail until the very end


[22-Sep-19 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Until the vote literally gets cast


[22-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
andrew johnson was from the south and was an appeasement pick by lincoln


[22-Sep-19 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Aside from the house judiciary committee and the house oversight chair, it's all been very noncommittal


[22-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
he was a drunk who did no work at all


[22-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
iirc he gave his inauguration address while drunk


[22-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
and he shut down any and all reconstruction attempts that took the decisions from the south


[22-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
which allowed them to implement their own reconstruction


[22-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
which is causing like 60% of the social woes in today's america


[22-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Grant gets all of the shit for being a drunk but people ignore Johnson


[22-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Grant had like, two random drinking binges because he was sad to be away from home and that's his legacy.


[22-Sep-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy was an insane chain smoker though, smoked like 10 cigars a day


[22-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-call-clear-impeachable-offense/598570/

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If This Isn’t Impeachable, Nothing Is
The president reportedly sought the help of a foreign government against Joe Biden.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/09/RTX73EYN/facebook.jpg?1569065255


[22-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
> Now, however, we face an entirely new situation. In a call to the new president of Ukraine, Trump reportedly attempted to pressure the leader of a sovereign state into conducting an investigation—a witch hunt, one might call it—of a U.S. citizen, former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son Hunter Biden.


[22-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
> If this in itself is not impeachable, then the concept has no meaning. Trump’s grubby commandeering of the presidency’s fearsome and nearly uncheckable powers in foreign policy for his own ends is a gross abuse of power and an affront both to our constitutional order and to the integrity of our elections.


[22-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
> The story may even be worse than we know. If Trump tried to use military aid to Ukraine as leverage, as reporters are now investigating, then he held Ukrainian and American security hostage to his political vendettas. It means nothing to say that no such deal was reached; the important point is that Trump abused his position in the Oval Office.


[22-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr if this isn't impeachable, nothing is


[22-Sep-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
||hey that's the title of the article||


[22-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Irrelevant because McConnell will do nothing.


[22-Sep-19 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again it's not on mcconnell right now


[22-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We would have had Nixon until 1976 and Watergate would have been yet another upscale address if we had the complacency we do now.


[22-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny because Watergate is right next to the JFK Center for Performing Arts


[22-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Watergate now is kinda falling apart but also not


[22-Sep-19 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the failure to launch is with pelosi. Whatever bugbear she's created as a reason not to jump on the Nadler train, be it Republicans taking it as a witch hunt or personally attacking her credibility, republicans are doing that anyway


[22-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a pizza place there now that is supposedly good.


[22-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi just wants to protect Ohio Democrats


[22-Sep-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not working either


[22-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She doesn't realize how bad the California GOP dying is


[22-Sep-19 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
worse still is the chilling effect it's had on the house democrats, which republicans waste no opportunity in pointing out


[22-Sep-19 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And this isn't just impeachment. Practically no one aside from Barr has actually been held in contempt, not even Lewandowski


[22-Sep-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who stonewalled them with that statement from Trump claiming executive privilege, despite Lewandowski never having worked for the executive in the first place


[22-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Oatsy#4039
@Itsthinking don't forget


[22-Sep-19 03:53 AM] Oatsy#4039
https://www.leftvoice.org/Elizabeth-Warren-Votes-for-Massive-Increase-of-War-Budget

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https://www.leftvoice.org/Elizabeth-Warren-Votes-for-Massive-Increase-of-War-Budget
Elizabeth Warren Votes for Massive Increase of War Budget
Elizabeth Warren votes for a defense budget that is higher than the one that Donald Trump requested.
https://www.leftvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/arton1770-1000x600.jpg


[22-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes her more electable, sadly.


[22-Sep-19 04:02 AM] Oatsy#4039
not by anyone who would actually vote against trump


[22-Sep-19 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Considering how Trump has used his military budget I'm okay with this - massive liberal


[22-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/09/21/twa-hijacking-suspect-arrested-1985-attack-killed-navy-diver/2405810001/

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Greek police make arrest in 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847
TWA Flight 847 was hijacked shortly after taking off from Athens on June 14, 1985. The hijackers shot and killed U.S. Navy diver Robert Stethem.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/09/21/USAT/86c859dd-90c6-4b5d-a8d4-8d21127f5ba8-AP_Greece_Hijacker.JPG?crop=3003,1689,x1,y28&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[22-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/entertainment/meghan-mccain-walks-off-the-view-trnd/index.html

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Meghan McCain walks off the set of 'The View' following a disagree...
Friday's airing of  ABC's The View appeared to get a little more heated than normal. During the episode, Meghan McCain walked off the set as cameras panned the studio heading into a commercial.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190920173104-the-view-0920-super-tease.jpg


[22-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the disagreement was over leakers and whistleblowers


[22-Sep-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/trump-iran-decision.html

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By Peter Baker, Eric Schmitt and Michael Crowley
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/trump-iran-decision.html
An Abrupt Move That Stunned Aides: Inside Trump’s Aborted Attack...
President Trump’s decision to call off an airstrike on Iran in June looms large now as he weighs how to respond to attacks on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia blamed on Tehran.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/22/world/21dc-trumpiran-3/merlin_159223086_ef02bbe6-5933-4215-ae38-1d4ad528e2a8-facebookJumbo.jpg


[22-Sep-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
> But barely three hours later, Mr. Trump had changed his mind. Without consulting his vice president, secretary of state or national security adviser, he reversed himself and, with ships readying missiles and airplanes already in the skies, told the Pentagon to call off the airstrikes with only 10 minutes to go. When Vice President Mike Pence and other officials returned to the White House for what they expected would be a long night of monitoring a military operation, they were stunned to learn the attack was off.


[22-Sep-19 05:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1175478737342816259?s=19

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[22-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3G2yCmXOjI

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[22-Sep-19 06:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[22-Sep-19 06:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony: 💸


[22-Sep-19 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, gotta remember that wapo is basically capitalist propaganda when it comes to economic issues


[22-Sep-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
(that basic math article is fake tho)


[22-Sep-19 08:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it something wrong with me, or is this article just totally nonsense?


[22-Sep-19 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
the top one is real


[22-Sep-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically saying that because the bottom 50% of earners in the US have any potential wealth cancelled out by debt, comparing the top 3 richest men in the US to them is comparing apples to oranges because the bottom 50% don't actually have any wealth


[22-Sep-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
and the bottom fake article is mocking that top article by saying that you can have negative numbers, and that any third grader knows this


[22-Sep-19 08:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[22-Sep-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, capitalist propaganda


[22-Sep-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't have to make any sense as long as enough people believe it


[22-Sep-19 08:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It looks like some daily shit posts from some brainless ones


[22-Sep-19 09:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-arms/defying-congress-trump-sets-8-billion-plus-in-weapons-sales-to-saudi-arabia-uae-idUSKCN1SU25R

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Defying Congress, Trump sets $8 billion-plus in weapons sales to S...
U.S. President Donald Trump, declaring a national emergency because of tensions ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190524&t=2&i=1390571013&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF4N1JR


[22-Sep-19 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610 (pinned)
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[22-Sep-19 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[22-Sep-19 03:40 PM] Mikey#7286
:ponythinking:


[22-Sep-19 03:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Wow


[22-Sep-19 03:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Americans exaggerating shit about a country they probably never went to?


[22-Sep-19 03:41 PM] Mikey#7286
Never


[22-Sep-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/S1kmyD-W2JI

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[22-Sep-19 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Sep-19 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That won't make sense to 99% of people here, but it pisses me off


[22-Sep-19 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The tl;dr is the spanish socialists never intended to form government after the last elections and instead spent their time in pseudo-campaign mode, with their parliament members sitting on their hands doing nothing


[22-Sep-19 05:46 PM] ononim#8141
lol I heard a lot of shit about PSOE in recent months from another SPaniards I know


[22-Sep-19 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
PSOE only cares about one thing, PSOE


[22-Sep-19 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
That's pretty much what I got from it


[22-Sep-19 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if there are many articles or reports on the situation in Andalusia


[22-Sep-19 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The basics is PSOE had been winning there for the last 30 years


[22-Sep-19 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Until last year


[22-Sep-19 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it was like watching someone crack open a coconut and having a million insects fly and crawl out


[22-Sep-19 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thousands of government workers that did literally nothing but were friends of a friend or someone's cousin


[22-Sep-19 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Businesses chosen by finger because someone in government had an uncle that had stake in it


[22-Sep-19 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Government employees having panic attacks and crying into eachother because they now had nothing


[22-Sep-19 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd spent all their time warming a chair doing nothing at all since finishing university, they just expected the party would remain in power forever


[22-Sep-19 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now they suddenly had to find actual jobs


[22-Sep-19 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was all disgusting


[22-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/16/economy/china-economy-industrial-production/index.html

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China's economy is getting worse. That makes a trade deal more likely
China's economic slowdown keeps getting worse. That could give the country incentive to repair its trading relationship with the United States and take more steps to stimulate its economy.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190916011852-china-economy-slowdown-super-tease.jpg


[22-Sep-19 07:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
China is too busy censoring the world to worry about their economy :shrugpony:


[22-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/dorian-canada-crane-topple-post-tropical-cyclone-storm

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Dorian topples crane in Canada, causes widespread blackouts as sto...
After causing devastation across the Bahamas and wreaking a path of destruction along North Carolina's Atlantic Coast, Dorian blasted the Canadian Maritimes Saturday with powerful winds that caused a massive crane to crash into a building under construction and torrential rain.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/09/08/694940094001_6084424565001_6084420750001-vs.jpg


[22-Sep-19 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDXdj3MRNc

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RT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDXdj3MRNc
Trump joins Indian PM for a 'Howdy, Modi' event in Houston
US President Donald #Trump joins Indian Prime Minister Narendra #Modi for a #HowdyModi event in Houston. RT LIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFAcqaNzNSc ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZpDXdj3MRNc/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[22-Sep-19 09:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1175848139112308739?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1175848139112308739?s=21
The USA Loves India! https://t.co/xlfnWafxpg
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[22-Sep-19 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
Hot fash on fash action


[22-Sep-19 09:46 PM] Pretty#9306
Spain: *has to repeat elections because no one of the 5 main parties can't agree on anything*
Left: *splits into more parties as soon as the elections are announced*
well fuck


[22-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[22-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The parties could agree


[22-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The problem is PSOE didn't want to, they're betting on getting more seats in a repeat


[22-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They've spent the time since the elections blaming the other two closest parties, ideologically, for the impasse, despite it being obvious they were the ones stonewalling them


[22-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're hoping the voters for those two parties will either switch to them, "to just get it over with", or abstain from voting


[22-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
@illumnious 
>  The uploader has not made this video available in your country.


[22-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
apparently russia doesn't want murica to see its videos anymore


[22-Sep-19 11:11 PM] illumnious#7938
shit


[22-Sep-19 11:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LllpO6hTzw

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PMO India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LllpO6hTzw
PM Modi and President Trump attend 'Howdy Modi' - Indian community...
Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Donald Trump attend 'Howdy Modi' - Indian community event in Houston, USA #HowdyModi #PMModiinUS #PMModiLive -----...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-LllpO6hTzw/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Sep-19 11:13 PM] illumnious#7938
for all you muricas to see


[22-Sep-19 11:14 PM] illumnious#7938
@Crow


[22-Sep-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/09/22/theres-a-new-case-of-a-rabbi-sucking-on-a-newborns-penis-and-giving-him-herpes/

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Hemant Mehta
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/09/22/theres-a-new-case-of-a-rabbi-sucking-on-a-newborns-penis-and-giving-him-herpes/
There’s a New Case of a Rabbi Sucking on a Newborn’s Penis and...
This is no way for a baby to be welcomed into the world.
https://wp-media.patheos.com/subdomain/sites/8/2017/03/7xzhRUn.jpg


[22-Sep-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
They really cannot stop, huh?


[22-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
oh, it's one of those long ass videos


[22-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
(I used a proxy to see the RT one)


[22-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
don't have time to watch 1+ hours of fascists sucking each other off


[22-Sep-19 11:19 PM] illumnious#7938
and all that dancing for the manbaby and some dude from India talking some shit


[22-Sep-19 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
the fuck


[22-Sep-19 11:23 PM] illumnious#7938
actually 1 hour of some random  dancing, singing, presentation, and talking


[22-Sep-19 11:23 PM] illumnious#7938
god why


[22-Sep-19 11:26 PM] illumnious#7938
more music


[22-Sep-19 11:26 PM] illumnious#7938
great


[22-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/89mxotfsi6o31.jpg

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[22-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Society


[22-Sep-19 11:27 PM] illumnious#7938
we lived


[22-Sep-19 11:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/1175849622826340352?s=20

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Tony Posnanski (@tonyposnanski)
https://twitter.com/tonyposnanski/status/1175849622826340352?s=20
@realDonaldTrump The USA hates Donald Trump.
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[22-Sep-19 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
also at 2:36:40 you will see....that dude


[22-Sep-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1175786471120343041

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Shitty Gamer Takes (@GamerTakes)
https://twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1175786471120343041
geese: the official animal of the SJW menace
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[22-Sep-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are they like this


[22-Sep-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/guillotineshout/status/1175807064968454144

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The Guillotine Shouter (@guillotineshout)
https://twitter.com/guillotineshout/status/1175807064968454144
@GamerTakes It’s because the goose doesn’t have giant tits isn’t it
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[22-Sep-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess you could say he's upset that there's no


[22-Sep-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honkers

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[22-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this might be because there's some credit in the ending talking about Aborginals


[22-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/us/6-year-old-arrested-orlando-florida.html

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By Mariel Padilla
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/us/6-year-old-arrested-orlando-florida.html
Officer Under Investigation After Arresting Children, 6 and 8, Chi...
The 6-year-old, a girl, was arrested and handcuffed after having a tantrum at an Orlando, Fla., school, her grandmother said.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/22/multimedia/22xp-childarrest/22xp-childarrest-facebookJumbo.png


[22-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
he arrested an 8 year old too


[22-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/GamerTakes/status/1160622948581072897


[22-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
> An Orlando, Fla., police officer is under investigation after he arrested two children, ages 6 and 8, in separate episodes at a school on Thursday, the police said.


[22-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
> The officer who transported the 6-year-old to the center verified that Officer Turner had not received approval for the arrest and immediately halted the process. According to Chief Rolón, the child was returned to school before being processed.


[22-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The odd part about that rant is that Billy is black


[22-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
apparently he needed to get a supervisor's approval to make an arrest of students under the age of 12,  the officer that handled the processing of the 8 year old wasn't aware that the arresting officer hadn't gotten supervisor approval and had fully processed the 8 year old


[22-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the school's officer is a power-tripping nutjob


[23-Sep-19 12:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1175855584018673665?s=19

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Israel Defense Forces (@IDF)
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1175855584018673665?s=19
F•R•I•E•N•D•S

Our soldiers couldn’t think of a better way to celebrate #Friends25 than celebrating...with friends 💙 https://t.co/kYsTjAoAAH
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[23-Sep-19 12:28 AM] ononim#8141

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[23-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/64V_KO3ikN0

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RTGame
https://youtu.be/64V_KO3ikN0
So no one told you life was gonna be this way
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP A requested piece of art from the recent Hitman video, Ross has finally snapped. Source is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoV_940E...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/64V_KO3ikN0/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Appropriate


[23-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] oh yeah, Judaism has some pretty shitty traditions


[23-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a pretty good reason most Jews nowadays are at least not fundamentalist.


[23-Sep-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And many even are outright atheists.


[23-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saw an idiot get confused that "secular Jew" was a thing


[23-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
people don't seem to understand that "jewish" is both a religious and an ethnic term


[23-Sep-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
hitler's grandfather was a jew


[23-Sep-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
which makes hitler jewish despite not being religiously jewish


[23-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
specifically, hitler was 1/4th jewish


[23-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
which is jewish enough to be thrown in a concentration camp by the nazis


[23-Sep-19 01:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And no one called him out on it?


[23-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
that's like going to north korea and calling kim jong-un a shithead


[23-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
out in public


[23-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
in front of a dozen guards


[23-Sep-19 01:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean *before* he became Chancellor


[23-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't really known that he was part jewish until after WW2 afaik


[23-Sep-19 01:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oof


[23-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there anywhere that lists "how much of a jew" you had to be to get got in nazi germany?


[23-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because iirc it was also weighted more if it came from your mother or father's side


[23-Sep-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
the problem was that no father was identified for hitler's father


[23-Sep-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
hitler's paternal grandmother had hitler's father out of wedlock


[23-Sep-19 01:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So Hitler was literally the son of a bastard


[23-Sep-19 01:53 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Cool


[23-Sep-19 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Study-suggests-Adolf-Hitler-was-a-quarter-Jewish-597966

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https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Study-suggests-Adolf-Hitler-was-a-quarter-Jewish-597966
Study suggests Adolf Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Jewish
Hitler’s right hand Hans Frank claimed to have discovered that the Fuhrer’s grandfather was indeed Jewish.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/444512


[23-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
the main reasoning used to disprove that hitler's paternal grandfather wasn't jewish was that "there were no jews in the neighborhood that hitler's paternal grandmother lived since before 1850"


[23-Sep-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
but a recent study released a couple months ago disproved that reasoning


[23-Sep-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Nurembergracechart.jpg

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[23-Sep-19 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
big oof


[23-Sep-19 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
what's the middle one means


[23-Sep-19 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine giving so much of a shit


[23-Sep-19 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like damn


[23-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Couldn't just be "hate the french", no


[23-Sep-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All because he was butthurt he couldn't get into art school.


[23-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it was because he had little to no passion for the subjects of his art


[23-Sep-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
he was encouraged to go into architecture by the teachers that give his entrance exams


[23-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
but he would've had to return to secondary school to do so


[23-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
he apparently dropped out in order to go into art


[23-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
basically, if hitler was an adult today, he'd be a patreon artist


[23-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was some credit hour technicalities too


[23-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Keep in mind Hitler was in the trenches in WW1, it's not like he just was some neet pissy about art school


[23-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And his health was fucking shit


[23-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's still certainly possible in the US


[23-Sep-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
considering that the draft is still a thing


[23-Sep-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
it hasn't been used since vietnam, and trying to use it would probably be very unpopular


[23-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"White House is burning and congressmen are being hanged on lamp posts" levels of unpopular, yes


[23-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
hitler wasn't conscripted though


[23-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
he wanted to fight in WW1, but didn't want to join the austrian army because of its "mixture of races"


[23-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
so he joined the bavarian army instead


[23-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, it wasn't that hard to get people wanting to fight against France


[23-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone hated France


[23-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everyone


[23-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently hitler even being allowed to serve in the bavarian army was an error on the part of the bavarian government


[23-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
basically, hitler was only in WW1 because of a clerical error


[23-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"error"


[23-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Recruiters tend to commit a lot of errors


[23-Sep-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
it says that the reason why he wasn't deported was because the question of his citizenship never came up


[23-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1b/Hitler_with_other_German_soldiers.jpg/1920px-Hitler_with_other_German_soldiers.jpg

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1b/Hitler_with_other_German_soldiers.jpg/1920px-Hitler_with_other_German_soldiers.jpg


[23-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
damn, that leftmost dude is hitler


[23-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
with the mighty moustache


[23-Sep-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
that moustache looks so much better than what he had later in life imo


[23-Sep-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The "hitler stache" was PR


[23-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was a "I had to shave myself down to this because of the gasmasks"


[23-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly, the reason why he originally started clipping his moustache was because he was ordered to do so in order to fit gas masks properly


[23-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always remember that one of the things fascism thrives on is *branding*.


[23-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
but in reality, it was likely because it was distinctive


[23-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
it was considered unpopular


[23-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
so no one used it


[23-Sep-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was popular in the US in the 20s


[23-Sep-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, nazism is popular in the US again, so it could come back


[23-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People trying to bring them back as Chaplin mustaches


[23-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx Its, I hate it


[23-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, you hate that?


[23-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate that I can see it happening


[23-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine shaving pubic hair to be like that


[23-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[23-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We don't want Hitler to have taken things away, we need to depower everything he did


[23-Sep-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hitler stach pube style is a weird mental image


[23-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mike-pence-mackinac-island-cars-banned-motorcade-fournier-michigan-a9115631.html

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Mike Pence takes eight-vehicle motorcade across island where cars ...
The move was described by one person as 'sacrilege'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/09/22/15/mike-pence-motorcade-drives-across-mackinac-island-where-cars-are-banned.jpg


[23-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just a stout brazilian


[23-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can imagine that at least once on that trip Pence uttered the word "Primitives"


[23-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
did they actually break the law to do that?


[23-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
that would turn off a lot of conservatives if so


[23-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol no


[23-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Conservatives would fistpump at good american cars rolling over the silly imaginary laws of lessers


[23-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How dare these people try to ban AMERICA


[23-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> But others said it was a sign that times had changed


[23-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shouldn't have built roads if they didn't want red blooded made in the USA cars to drive on them


[23-Sep-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Pence should have been driving an 8 hummer motorcade just to show thme the error of their ways of sin"


[23-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't *actually* care about the law.


[23-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They care about using the law as a tool to get what they want.


[23-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They view it as a weapon, specifically.


[23-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
While Liberals view it as a shield protecting from the very thing Conservatives do.


[23-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
weren't you the one arguing that making something into law turns off a lot of arguments against that thing?


[23-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[23-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whichever side currently has the law working for them has the better argument.


[23-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in general are hesitant to even say the law is wrong.


[23-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let alone actually defy it.


[23-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a big part of why Liberals make any progress


[23-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you create a shield in the law, it's very hard to remove.


[23-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't seem to be stopping trump any


[23-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives, and especially the Reactionaries among them, are mainly fighting to *prevent* those shields.


[23-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is rolling bakk things that aren't actual law, but a lot of executive agency bullshit that effectively works above the law.


[23-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a serious problem that we turned over the law in so many ways to such agencies.


[23-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing is that when a Democrat gets in charge they will whine they are using the tools Republicans put in power to their advantage


[23-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're having civil servants working for a corrupt boss write policy that people get arrested and fined massively for violating.


[23-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole argument is that the law can't keep up


[23-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the agencies must rewrite their implementation policies


[23-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately this means that what you can and can't do change too often


[23-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and both parties just play a tug of war with it.


[23-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans get the presidency, immediately stop making the gov't able to fund overseas healthcare stuff that so much as doesn't deny abortion exists as an option.


[23-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats get it, flip the policy. Wash, rinse, repeat.


[23-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has to be fixed so it can actually update the damn laws.


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the *Judiciary* should be writing the specific enforcement rules.


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive should only enforce, not decide.


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP seems to want a rubber stamp judiciary


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a rubber stamp everything.


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've legitimately seen people argue that "the judiciary shouldn't be deciding what the laws are"


[23-Sep-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do not care about Democracy.


[23-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that's the _entire point of the judiciary_


[23-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not hate it or love it.


[23-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the Executive has too much power


[23-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Legislative and Judiciary hav too little.


[23-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a bad state to be in, if Trump got reelected we could actually slip into dictatorship.


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because the executive knows that people _think_ it has all the power


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Legislature is seen as corrupt and no one really knows how the Judiciary works


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the Executive takes advantage of that


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
in practice, it does, tho


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive can manipulate the Legislative to get the right laws and justices in place


[23-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it holds all the cards about how investigations go


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do wonder because like, we're going to eventually have something that says "the president can be indicted"


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder who the first one to be will and for what


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can stonewall on its own wrongdoing while targeting its enemies


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump promised to make the Executive his own personal hit squad basically


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he's slowly getting it.


[23-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moscow Mitch basically handed over the keys to America.


[23-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking whoever comes after Trump, same reason as Bill Clinton.


[23-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably they'll find out Biden was fukking a 15-year-old


[23-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
bla bla bla *eye bleeding* did not hav sexual relations with that teenager, bla bla bla


[23-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, exact same evidence pretty much'll get found on Trump, but everyone will be too busy figuring out what they can and can't prosecute him over because the justice dept. is retarded and will STILL be stonewalling on some things to protect its own


[23-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-military-aid.html

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By Andrew E. Kramer
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/world/europe/ukraine-trump-military-aid.html
Trump’s Hold on Military Aid Blindsided Top Ukrainian Officials
The withholding of aid is now at the center of questions about whether President Trump manipulated foreign policy to pressure the Ukrainian government to take action damaging to Joseph R. Biden Jr.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/23/world/22Ukraine-print/22Ukraine1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Sep-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
> “At the end of the day, the only ones who will be happy about that are the people sitting in the Kremlin,” he said.


[23-Sep-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
it makes more sense to look at trump like a russian plant than it does to say he's simply inept


[23-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
the amount of stuff happening happening in US policy that both directly and indirectly benefits russia can't simply be explained away by stupidity alone


[23-Sep-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
> In fact, the hold came and went so quickly he noticed no change in the shipments and American officials never informed him of any planned delays, Mr. Shevchuk said. “We got more this year than last year,” he said.


[23-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that this whole shitfest was caught and fixed so fast that there were no delays in shipments whatsoever


[23-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, Trump is both a russian plant


[23-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
*and* inept


[23-Sep-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He isn't even a good plant because he's just bad at figuring out how to get what Putin tells him to.


[23-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia can't even keep the Caucasus under control after having it for four centuries


[23-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trying to influence a Western government to get a plant in power was never going to end well.


[23-Sep-19 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/ya_D9IwB3-s

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The Onion
https://youtu.be/ya_D9IwB3-s
NASA Scientists Plan To Approach Girl By 2018
The team of scientists says the $19 million dollar mission will put them in direct contact with a woman by 2018.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ya_D9IwB3-s/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Sep-19 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/23/disney-almost-bought-twitter-b.html

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Rob Beschizza
https://boingboing.net/2019/09/23/disney-almost-bought-twitter-b.html
Disney almost bought Twitter but backed off because "the nastiness...
Profiled By Maureen Dowd at The New York Times, Disney CEO Bob Iger says that the company almost bought Twitter in 2017, but decided against it because “the nastiness is extraordinary.”…
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[23-Sep-19 05:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh no, people speaking their mind


[23-Sep-19 05:03 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How *nasty*


[23-Sep-19 05:10 PM] Oatsy#4039
Twitter is toxic af though


[23-Sep-19 05:10 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That is true


[23-Sep-19 05:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of people's minds are full of shit


[23-Sep-19 05:24 PM] Oatsy#4039
Who's isn't


[23-Sep-19 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool cool, https://elpais.com/ccaa/2019/09/23/catalunya/1569218217_653088.html

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Detenidos en Barcelona nueve independentistas de los CDR acusados ...
Se preparaban ante el aniversario del referéndum ilegal del 1 de octubre y la sentencia del  procés
https://ep00.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/2019/09/23/catalunya/1569218217_653088_1569222807_rrss_normal.jpg


[23-Sep-19 05:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao could you imagine the state of the site if Disney had actually bought Twitter back then


[23-Sep-19 05:46 PM] ononim#8141
Shall I too just post russian articles without any context?


[23-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, if they're the only source and you have to leave your desk right after posting, I guess


[23-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically, Catalan independentist group got arrested with explosives, were planning a terrorist attack for next month


[23-Sep-19 06:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, someone's gotta step in to fill ETA's shoes. Not like the Galicians are doing anything any more either to help keep Spain interesting.


[23-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ETA's rearming itself


[23-Sep-19 06:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lit


[23-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure that's the term I'd use


[23-Sep-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTgUJHzMNQ would link news article but on mobile

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Lawful Masses with Leonard French
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTgUJHzMNQ
Fifty Dollar Sixth Grade Strip Search
During a sixth-grade choir class, an assistant principal allegedly ordered a mass, suspicionless strip search of the underwear of twenty-two preteen girls. $...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IRTgUJHzMNQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
seems like there's been updates to the case since that video was published


[23-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
considering it's over a year old


[23-Sep-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
oh, it originally happened in 2013


[23-Sep-19 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/29506-schools-2013-strip-search-sixth-graders-finally-ruled-unconstitutional

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https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/29506-schools-2013-strip-search-sixth-graders-finally-ruled-unconstitutional
School's 2013 Strip-search of Sixth-graders Finally Ruled Unconsti...
Back in 2013, a school nurse at a middle school in Texas was ordered to search the underwear of 22 girls in search of $50. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has finally ruled the school's actions unconstitutional. by Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/7ac836d13a958b60857103f830f726af_XL.jpg


[23-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
the video was about the update apparently


[23-Sep-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/HawaiiDelilah/status/1175898225204584449?s=20

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HawaiiDelilah™ (@HawaiiDelilah)
https://twitter.com/HawaiiDelilah/status/1175898225204584449?s=20
It is quite sad when so many members of the Trump admin go on the record saying the president didn't pressure a foreign leader. And then the president goes on the record and confesses he pressured that foreign leader.  Video via the awesome @Politidope https://t.co/WvGgoEc...
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[23-Sep-19 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, this will only boost his support inside the GOP


[23-Sep-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He's so brave to be willing to break the law to make america great again, This man is a hero!"


[23-Sep-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's just one very successful con man


[23-Sep-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that he's not a very good one


[23-Sep-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hell, even a big part of his early cabinet was comprised of people who owned most of the shares in MLM schemes such as HerbaLife


[23-Sep-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it;s made up of elite lobbyists because they;re mroe profitable than MLM share holders


[23-Sep-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/taliban-china-discuss-afghan-peace-talks-collapse-190923090323341.html

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/taliban-china-discuss-afghan-peace-talks-collapse-190923090323341.html
Taliban in China to discuss Afghan peace after US talks collapse
Afghan delegation and Chinese officials exchange views on 'process of advancing peace in Afghanistan', Beijing says.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/6/29/776f55cee17b40078a229f287574adf6_18.jpg


[23-Sep-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The fruits of Trump's foreign policy.


[23-Sep-19 09:00 PM] ononim#8141
Dengist Taliban


[23-Sep-19 09:00 PM] ononim#8141
Dengist Taliban


[23-Sep-19 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/WmJ7CSRRCDM

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[23-Sep-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/625775530968481792/a81cbintm6l31.png

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[23-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462659-mcconnell-says-gop-intelligence-chairman-wants-to-hold-closed-door-briefing

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462659-mcconnell-says-gop-intelligence-chairman-wants-to-hold-closed-door-briefing
McConnell says GOP Intelligence chairman wants to hold closed-door...
The Senate Intelligence Committee is trying to schedule a briefing for this week on a whistleblower complaint reportedly involving President Trump's action toward Uk
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_073119as_lead_0.jpg


[23-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKe_WzJORo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay2bBKRfTek

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Timcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKe_WzJORo
Conservative Activists Just Cleaned FIFTY TONS Of Trash In Los Ang...
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Timcast
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Police Arrest 26 As Climate Activists Litter And Set A Dumpster On...
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[23-Sep-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Moscow Mitch won't do shit.


[24-Sep-19 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside iirc those pictures of trash allegedly dumped by climate activists are fake


[24-Sep-19 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.papermag.com/fake-photo-climate-strike-australia-2640472045.html?rebelltitem=9#rebelltitem9

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https://www.papermag.com/fake-photo-climate-strike-australia-2640472045.html?rebelltitem=9
A Fake Climate Strike Photo Makes Its Rounds Online
This goes to show how people shouldn’t believe everything they see online, especially when supposed statements of fact are being posted by particularly questionable accounts. To fact-check and corroborate anything you’ve seen online, check websites like  Snopes.
https://assets.rbl.ms/21127437/980x.jpg?1569276631


[24-Sep-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it really wouldn't make any sense at all, especially if you actually get a firsthand account from someone who actually was participating in the strikes


[24-Sep-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/protesters-hyde-park-rubbish/

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Were Piles of Rubbish Left in Hyde Park By Global-Warming Protesters?
By most accounts, the protests held by "Extinction Rebellion" have been rather tidy affairs.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/04/GettyImages-1137242795.jpg?fit=1024,684


[24-Sep-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this one also has actual pictures of the aftermath of the protests


[24-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I hate coming here to see videos posted by Timcast, his content is fucking garbage


[24-Sep-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The vast majority of YT talking heads are garbage


[24-Sep-19 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're even worse than The Sun, The Mirror, The New York Post, etc.


[24-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just 12-17 minutes of repeating and bitching something sourced from the bottom of the barrel and making people mad and addicted to being mad so they keep coming back for more


[24-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the while telling viewers that they're the ones seeing through The Others' bullshit


[24-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yep, both videos inside the 12-17 minute window, the perfect length for YT recommendations


[24-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"not trivial, not too long"


[24-Sep-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
I liked that dude who did the video about cooperatives


[24-Sep-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHQapW0HzEw

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Vaush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHQapW0HzEw
GLORIOUS Worker Co-op Research Stream (Spoilers, they're Great)
This is an older video, hence the shaggier hair and different stream layout. This is but the first of many research streams I intend to do, and I'll be compi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BHQapW0HzEw/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/F4QrsC3

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https://imgur.com/gallery/F4QrsC3
I mean...
https://i.imgur.com/KYOVTl9h.jpg


[24-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Im sure the confederates were only moderately upset with Lincoln


[24-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/625770207612370984/EFI6KFiXsAEX1JA.png

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[24-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, you don't make sure everyone has enuff wine by continuing to poor in the fat guy's giant goblet and hoping that what he spills swinging it around chatting fills up everyone else's.


[24-Sep-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminder that the IMF itself recognized that the term "trickle down economics" started out as a joke


[24-Sep-19 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
but badger that one yacht purchase gave one guy a job


[24-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://psmag.com/economics/trickle-down-economics-is-indeed-a-joke

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The IMF Confirms That 'Trickle-Down' Economics Is, Indeed, a Joke
Like, an actual joke.
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[24-Sep-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Horse and sparrow. If you feed the horse enough, then the sparrow will get fat on what passes through."


[24-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wonder how many Republicans would stikk by it even more knowing the earlier concept if applied implies that the workers hav to pikk thru the bosses' shit to get what they need.


[24-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JFK wasn't shot in the face.


[24-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was shot in the head, more than once.


[24-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
His wife in panic tried to grab part of his head as it rolled off the bakk of the vehicle.


[24-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of one insane depressed ex-US-military communist with a rifle.


[24-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Republicans don't want to talk about that


[24-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it might imply gun control is a good idea.


[24-Sep-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey uh


[24-Sep-19 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
didn't Oswald meet with a couple foreign interests just before the assassination


[24-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd hav to read it up on it again, my most recent exposure to info on this was the Quantum Leap episode


[24-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey now, Wingbeat


[24-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if *that* is accurate, then he met with the Soviets to try to sell them info in exchange for citizenship, and was denied, and tried to kill himself with razor blades right after.


[24-Sep-19 04:08 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
:wot:


[24-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know Texas is like another country but just because LBJ had an accent doesn't mean he's a foreigner


[24-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
obviously, it was time-traveling hillary clinton


[24-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oswald could've been paid by the Soviets or Cubans or something but like


[24-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy was a nutcase


[24-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
he didn't need money to do something like that.


[24-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just hard to believe that the bad part of this whistleblowing thing is that people are totally fine with "oh he just asked a foreign power to help him get dirt on political opponents" as long as it didn't involve money


[24-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like he admitted he did that


[24-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans will stomach anything at this point.


[24-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything to own the libs


[24-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could've been asking the guy for child rape slaves.


[24-Sep-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would say this is a Democratic smearjob.


[24-Sep-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could've been on a yacht having sex with infants under the idea the noise would annoy the foreign leader into accepting his demands


[24-Sep-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would say "well nobody has the best ideas on the weekend"


[24-Sep-19 04:15 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Jesus Christ


[24-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
trump could be recorded running into a school and shooting it up, and nothing would happen


[24-Sep-19 04:16 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Theres a sentence and a half


[24-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
basically, trump is the ultimate gamer


[24-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, when does it end?


[24-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What line must he cross that Mitch McConnell will say "this needs to be investigated thoroughly" and say the justice dept. trying to blokk is bad?


[24-Sep-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was extorting a foreign leader to make their justice system harass a political opponent.


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, a political opponent's *family member*


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is EVEN WORSE


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biker Gangs won't do this


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To be perfectly fair the whistleblower scandal and the trump-ukraine scandal are technically separate because we (congress) do not know what was in the complaint; the bit about Ukraine is coming from hearsay out of the woodwork. It's just too convenient to be a coincidence


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they generally consider it beyond the pale once you start going after people's families


[24-Sep-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
BIKER GANGS


[24-Sep-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Nebbie


[24-Sep-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
he didn't talk about money


[24-Sep-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess we need a chekk that he signed.


[24-Sep-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn if only we had that


[24-Sep-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Surely then things would be an issue.


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is also too convenient for my liking is that Moscow Mitch has been recalcitrant right up until this point where it looks like Ukraine can be painted as the bad guys and now suddenly he's making moves on election interference and investigating sources related to that half of the story


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I seriously wonder just what he could get away with


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could he rape people?


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could the president get drunk


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Behind closed doors. With Chairman Burr.


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and rape two 15 year olds


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and bury the shit and defame anyone stopping him, bakked by Mitch and the Justice Dept.?


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[24-Sep-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could he live on air hit the CNN host with a shovel during a debate


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we are at the point now where the president can't even be *accused* of wrongdoing


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then nothing happens from it?


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even after the guy DIES?


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The president is never wrong


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pharaoh Trump


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who only think things are bad if a liberal does it


[24-Sep-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine we're in that world, where Trump brings a shovel to the first presidential debate with the unholy fusion of Biden, Warren, and Harris after a tragic mad scientist accident


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And threatens people with it during the debate


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, how else do you explain Giuliani not being immediately shoved under the bus by Trump, the GOP, or the Democrats after his statements this week


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm trying to think here what would make Mitch act


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then KILLS THE HOST OF THE DEBATE by hitting a little too hard


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ummmm


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably wouldn't need that


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would Mitch say that it was just an "accident"


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if we found out that he was paying a hitman or something


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
that's probably enough


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In case you missed it Mitch *is* acting


[24-Sep-19 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to cover it up.


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think hiring a hitman is enuff


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think if Trump hired a hitman to kill Bernie


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that Mitch would be trying to cover it up


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
remember, the game here is to deny it even happened


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and only say it's actually okay once everyone for sure knows it happened


[24-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to still say "also it didn't happen"


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where's that "it didn't happen but if it did" logic copypasta


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think we'd need like, full dementia


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like falling asleep, can't keep food in his mouth, tweets are just "jsdfsdfgxdfgs342;"


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it."


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's it


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's already kinda going the Reagan route in regards to mental health


[24-Sep-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Narcissist's Prayer.


[24-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Best thing about Reagan to me was admitting he committed perjury but thought it was okay because he _really wanted it to be true_


[24-Sep-19 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The "Obama netflix" tweet comes to mind


[24-Sep-19 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm more concerned with Giuliani. That guy couldn't be a defense lawyer for Pinnochio with the way his eyes bug out when he says anything with a spin on it


[24-Sep-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well Republicans apparently can get away with anything


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, that's why he shut up


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing really came of Iran Contra, remember.


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet he's still involved.


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Democrats ever suffer because Democrats project that "we're the party with a conscience"


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party with a conscience needs to be putting some fools in fukking jail.


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Squad is getting _close_ to a GOP level of "like I give a fuck that you think I'm bad"


[24-Sep-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that's actually good


[24-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
No executive privilege, and if a president pardons someone for corrupt shit, impeach.


[24-Sep-19 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really want to know who put a bomb in Pelosi's brain set to explode if she says the word "impeachment"


[24-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not the strat


[24-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
the strat is to drag it out forever


[24-Sep-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you want to pardon your coconspirator? Okay, we're impeaching your ass. Then we're sending you to jail.


[24-Sep-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and have hearings where Gaetz and Jordan screech


[24-Sep-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you can't pardon yourself.


[24-Sep-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump doesn't go to jail after his presidency, it will be a serious problem.


[24-Sep-19 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly all Trump tweets as of now make much more sense when you imagine some mad lunatic in a restraining shirt saying them out loud


[24-Sep-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the strat is to wait until after the election to try and impeach, it is imo a worse strat than trying to impeach now knowing it'll fail. And either option is better than doing nothing because the GOP might capitalize on that because *they are capitalizing on that anyhow*


[24-Sep-19 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just love how you can't have any minor criticism of the president no matter how small or you have TDS


[24-Sep-19 04:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i wouldn't say the criticism of the president in this channel are "minor"


[24-Sep-19 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What makes you think we'd claim it is?


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
from what itsthinking implied


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He means people react badly to saying "Trump made a small mistake"


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
not in this channel, but in other places.


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, in addition to the big problems


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will also do stuff just in the wrong way


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah he's saying that not only can't we accuse Trump of treason and bribery and conspiracy and obstruction, but we can't make fun of him for drawing sharpie on a map and then not letting it slide for a week


[24-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not listen to people telling him otherwise.


[24-Sep-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or thanking the "brave Pullman" executives for making Labor Day possible


[24-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, I don't consider that one minor, because he actually broke the integrity rules of the agency involved.


[24-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He made them chastise a guy for correcting him.


[24-Sep-19 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or just...like, being completely incapable of shaking hands like a normal person


[24-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about what it implies to force an agency to go after a guy for putting out the actual forecast.


[24-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US Labor Day is some shit


[24-Sep-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Labo(u)r Day is May 1.


[24-Sep-19 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm surprised he didn't thank the pinkerton guards while he was at it. Maybe if he'd been ~~holding a rally~~ celebrating the holiday in Pittsburgh rather than Chicago


[24-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man the Trump labor-related agencies have basically been forcing through everything so


[24-Sep-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Graduate students could unionize under Obama, now nope


[24-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@BlackRedGuard/boomers-are-not-destroying-the-world-capitalists-are-678b09e46df2

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https://medium.com/@BlackRedGuard/boomers-are-not-destroying-the-world-capitalists-are-678b09e46df2
Boomers Are Not Destroying the World— Capitalists Are
There’s an irritating and stupid amount of memes and idle, worthless discourse going around in the series of groups and other spaces…


[24-Sep-19 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
millenials are capitalists confirmed


[24-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
not sure when or where this article was linked, I could've sworn I got it from this server


[24-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
nvm, found it


[24-Sep-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't this server


[24-Sep-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
don't you mean boomers


[24-Sep-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, boomers aren't destroying the world, can't you read


[24-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-paid-a-visit-to-the-un-climate-action-summit-2019-9

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Trump crashed the UN Climate Action Summit, where he applauded Nar...
The US and countries like Japan and South Africa were not invited to speak at the event because of the UN's disapproval of their greenhouse-gas emissions.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d8901212e22af1f465ed403-2732-1366.jpg


[24-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like trump's just using US tax dollars to be a tourist now


[24-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
also, he clapped for modi but not merkel


[24-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
actually, that probably explains why he came


[24-Sep-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
he wanted to watch his fascist buddy


[24-Sep-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[24-Sep-19 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
that's moops btw


[24-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/world/2019/9/23/20880639/france-germany-uk-iran-saudi-statement

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France, Germany, and UK say Iran is responsible for attacks on Sau...
"It is clear for us that Iran bears responsibility for this attack," the leaders of the three European powers said. "There is no other explanation."
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[24-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
boom boom deathy time soon


[24-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
the whole western hit squad is getting together


[24-Sep-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
if the US, france, germany, and the UK call you out, you're gonna have a bad time


[24-Sep-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait are we actually calling them out


[24-Sep-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't keep track


[24-Sep-19 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It seems like Trump still wants to be friends with iran despite hating iran


[24-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
well, trump called them out


[24-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
and trump is the face of the US, so


[24-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
that's kind of in his job description


[24-Sep-19 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
since when has that applied


[24-Sep-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
> But America’s claim received a major boost on Monday as the leaders of three key allies — France, Germany, and the UK — put out a joint statement at the UN saying that there’s no question Iran was behind the apparent drone and missile strikes on Saudi Arabia.


[24-Sep-19 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh right saudi arabia is his bigger friend now 'cause they like buildings


[24-Sep-19 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I tried looking it up and instead found a piece on how the friendship tree that Trump and Macron planted together is already dead


[24-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/09/23/florida-cop-fired-for-arresting-two-elementary-school-children/

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Florida cop fired for arresting two elementary school children
A Florida police officer has reportedly been fired amid outrage for arresting two 6-year-old elementary school children last week, authorities said Monday. Orlando Police Chief Orlando Rolón announ…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/dennis-turner.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[24-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/23/us/officer-arrested-children-6-8-suspended-orlando-trnd/index.html

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A school resource officer is fired after arresting two 6-year-old ...
An Orlando elementary school resource officer has been fired after arresting two 6-year-old children and accusing them of misdemeanors in separate incidents.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190923150443-fl-children-arrested-kaia-rolle-super-tease.jpg


[24-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
one of them was throwing a tantrum, so the officer arrested her for battery


[24-Sep-19 05:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Heated cop moment


[24-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
also, apparently both the students that were arrested were 6 years old, the article I linked yesterday said they were 6 and 8 years old


[24-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/world/middleeast/israel-election-rivlin-netanyahu-gantz.html

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By Isabel Kershner
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/world/middleeast/israel-election-rivlin-netanyahu-gantz.html
In Israel, Gantz and Netanyahu Start Talks on Possible Unity Gover...
After Israel’s deadlock election, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his chief opponent, Benny Gantz, agreed to try to negotiate a power-sharing deal.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/23/world/23israel-president/23israel-president-facebookJumbo.jpg


[24-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
centrists and conservatives coming together, what a shocker


[24-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left wants to fix things and the right wants to break things? I should compromise by breaking things, lest those lefties fix the things I like broken, etc.


[24-Sep-19 05:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdo4zU63L4

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Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdo4zU63L4
Republicans on Trump-Ukraine call point to Biden, media
Numerous elected Republicans deflected questions following a whistleblower complaint, allegedly about President Trump’s conversations with Ukraine about form...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jYdo4zU63L4/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Sep-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah not a big surprise


[24-Sep-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763544037/kansas-soldier-charged-with-teaching-bomb-making-to-far-right-extremists

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U.S. Soldier Charged With Teaching Bomb-Making To Far-Right Extremists
The case is the latest in a string of recent arrests and investigations related to attempted far-right infiltration of the U.S. military, prompting calls for more thorough screenings of enlistees.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/09/23/ap_19266651962831_wide-afcc32da7f7baa9e04b494c3b9706739e2971f7c.jpg?s=1400


[24-Sep-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
> A 24-year-old soldier in Kansas who allegedly planned to fight with a violent far-right group in Ukraine was charged Monday with distributing bomb-making information over social media, according to the Justice Department.
> 
> The FBI says Army Spc. Jarrett William Smith, stationed at Fort Riley, came under investigation in March, when authorities learned he had given bomb-making lessons over Facebook. The FBI also says Smith was in talks about traveling to Ukraine, where he wanted to fight alongside the neo-Nazi paramilitary Azov Battalion.


[24-Sep-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[24-Sep-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
there's far-right terrorists in the US military


[24-Sep-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-guest-calls-greta-thunberg-mentally-ill-swedish-child-as-right-wing-unleashes-on-climate-activist

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Fox News Guest Calls Greta Thunberg ‘Mentally Ill Swedish Child...
Throughout the day on Monday, conservatives on television and social media mocked and belittled the 16-year-old climate activist.
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[24-Sep-19 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
> “If it were about science it would be led by scientists rather than by politicians and a mentally ill Swedish child who is being exploited by her parents and by the international left,” Knowles said, prompting Faulkner to ask Hahn to respond since he had a “visceral reaction” to the right-wing talker’s comments.


[24-Sep-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
> “Yeah, I mean, you’re a grown man and you’re attacking a child—shame on you,” the liberal pundit said. Knowles insisted he was not attacking Thunberg but rather her parents and liberals.


[24-Sep-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
as much as the "liberal pundit" has a point, you know they're just doing this back and forth as a part of a show for views


[24-Sep-19 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
because fox news is not a news channel, it's an entertainment channel


[24-Sep-19 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.dorsten-unterm-hakenkreuz.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Kaufman-deutschlandkarte-s-w.jpg

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[24-Sep-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure nobody would hav a problem with France having a giant flange extending out near countries that aren't historically stable...


[24-Sep-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They and the rest of the countries in this picture save Italy and Switzerland would be Soviet puppet states so it wouldn't matter much.


[24-Sep-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/lg5I9zx

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Waste of Money
https://i.imgur.com/w1RywpSh.jpg


[24-Sep-19 07:56 AM] Mikey#7286
wait


[24-Sep-19 07:56 AM] Mikey#7286
did the white house actually scribble over the second picture


[24-Sep-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
no


[24-Sep-19 07:57 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[24-Sep-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ssLgNpL.png

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[24-Sep-19 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
> This photo shows an understanding of perspective that I doubt trump has.


[24-Sep-19 07:57 AM] Mikey#7286
did mexicans actually climb on his new wall


[24-Sep-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
apparently so


[24-Sep-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3Wt81dO.jpg

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[24-Sep-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[24-Sep-19 08:00 AM] Mikey#7286
lmfao


[24-Sep-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
> Morons Are Governing America


[24-Sep-19 09:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/trump-nobel-peace-prize-1508484

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/23/trump-nobel-peace-prize-1508484
Trump claims Nobel Peace Prize is rigged against him
Trump has repeatedly floated the idea that he deserves the peace prize for his efforts to bring peace to the Korean peninsula.
http://v.politico.com/images/1155968404/201909/3088/1155968404_6088808475001_6088807363001-vs.jpg?pubId=1155968404


[24-Sep-19 09:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the article mentions Japanese PM Shinzo Abe wrote him a letter stating he'd nominated Trump for the prize. This is true. Abe did write the letter. He did not, however, actually nominate Trump


[24-Sep-19 09:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he did this more than once actually, though I'd have to check


[24-Sep-19 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55dddb1f5a7f428f9cc6354fea43e67e

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'Way too extreme': Some Democrats warn against moving left
BEAVER, Pa. (AP) — The Democrats of Beaver County, Pennsylvania, crowded onto the steps of a local courthouse, dozens of union men protesting a looming power plant closure that would put their...
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[24-Sep-19 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0c31f38c79a94d66816133d7824c2d5b

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New independent watchdog to keep extremists off internet
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The leaders of New Zealand and France are backing a watchdog organization aimed at keeping internet platforms from being used by extremists — and preparing speedy responses...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/29030d7354e14081a2f266f13c588802/3000.jpeg


[24-Sep-19 01:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49807552

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Supreme Court: Parliament must convene says Speaker - BBC News
John Bercow says Parliament must sit as Boris Johnson's decision to prorogue it is ruled unlawful.
https://m.files.bbci.co.uk/modules/bbc-morph-news-waf-page-meta/4.0.0/bbc_news_logo.png


[24-Sep-19 01:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
liar tells a lie. who could have see that coming.


[24-Sep-19 01:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431268748549423105/625893357587005451/image0.jpg

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[24-Sep-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176339522113679360

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176339522113679360
She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see! https://t.co/1tQG6QcVKO
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[24-Sep-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being this far away from the point


[24-Sep-19 03:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He knows he can't get into an argument he can't win. So he is just going to give her false praise to avoid her making an idiot out of him


[24-Sep-19 05:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462775-trump-confirms-he-held-up-ukrainian-aid

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462775-trump-confirms-he-held-up-ukrainian-aid
Trump confirms he held up Ukrainian aid
President Trump on Tuesday confirmed that he withheld funds from Ukraine amid growing furor over his interactions with the country, arguing he did so because he wanted European nations to contribute more to the cause.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald2_092419.jpg


[24-Sep-19 05:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing will happen.


[24-Sep-19 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/20a969ae220d4dd587e21a1ae73a849d

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https://apnews.com/20a969ae220d4dd587e21a1ae73a849d
Trump administration issues less-generous overtime rule
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration has issued a rule that will make overtime pay available to 1.3 million additional workers, though the proposal replaces a more generous one advanced by...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/2dfcf6364158481693cce968face8251/2741.jpeg


[24-Sep-19 06:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is really polling well


[24-Sep-19 06:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pulling ahead of Biden


[24-Sep-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope it remains that way


[24-Sep-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1176253929597919233

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[24-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462795-rubio-the-term-impeachable-offense-has-lost-all-meaning

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462795-rubio-the-term-impeachable-offense-has-lost-all-meaning
Rubio: The term 'impeachable offense' has 'lost all meaning'
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) on Monday said that the term "impeachable offense" has "lost all meaning" as more Democrats call for impeachment inquiries over President Trump's talks with Ukraine.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/rubiomarco_052119gn_lead.jpg


[24-Sep-19 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah we're at that stage now.


[24-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it."


[24-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We're on stage three.


[24-Sep-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/462805-biden-to-back-impeachment-if-white-house-doesnt-cooperate-in-whistleblower

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/462805-biden-to-back-impeachment-if-white-house-doesnt-cooperate-in-whistleblower
Biden to back impeachment if Trump doesn't cooperate in whistleblo...
Former Vice President Biden is slated to announce on Tuesday that he will support impeaching President Trump if the White House does not cooperate in Congress' whistleblower inquiry.
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[24-Sep-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/462808-gop-lawmaker-introduces-measure-to-remove-nadler-as-judiciary-chairman#

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/462808-gop-lawmaker-introduces-measure-to-remove-nadler-as-judiciary-chairman
GOP lawmaker introduces measure to remove Nadler as Judiciary chairman
Freshman Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas) introduced a resolution aimed at removing House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) from his role as the top Democrat on the panel responsible for handling impeachment proceedings.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/nadlerjerrold_092419gn_lead.jpg


[24-Sep-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Sep-19 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
more nazi comparisons because the right wants to dilute the meaning of people being compared to nazis


[24-Sep-19 07:44 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49788618

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Outcry in Rio as police accused of killing girl
The eight-year-old Brazilian girl was with her mother in a van when she was hit in the back.
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[24-Sep-19 07:47 PM] ononim#8141
```Ágatha Vitória Sales Félix was with her mother in a van when she was shot in the back in a poor area on Friday.

Residents said officers had targeted a motorcyclist when she was hit. Police said they had responded to an attack.

A record 1,249 people have died in such raids in Rio from January to August.

Ágatha is the fifth child to die as a result of violence blamed on the police this year.

Critics say the hard-line approach of Governor Wilson Witzel, who came to office in January, is behind the growing number of victims in the city's poorest areas - favelas - many of them controlled by powerful drug gangs.```

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[24-Sep-19 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Witzel is a butcher


[24-Sep-19 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if hell exists, he's going straight to it when he dies


[24-Sep-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
honestly this is why the northeastern states of Brazil (frequently decried as poor) are maybe the best part of the country. good governors, good education, good political consciousness, i'm considering planning on moving there if Paraná gets too much of a taste of its own medicine


[24-Sep-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Call is gonna get released tomorrow.


[24-Sep-19 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49816205

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Batman shooting family 'horrified' by Joker film
Families of those killed while watching a Batman film in 2012 write to film studio Warner Bros.
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[24-Sep-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Sep-19 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
boomers*


[24-Sep-19 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
not all, bro


[24-Sep-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The phrasing used doesn't imply all of them, the point is boomers *are grown adults*


[24-Sep-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[24-Sep-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) how DARE people ever present someone as sympathetic when the system screws them and they end up a killer.


[24-Sep-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nerve to actually talk about realistic consequences of our shitty society instead of just go BAD GUY GET SHOOTED


[24-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/462836-pelosi-to-launch-formal-trump-impeachment-inquiry-report

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Pelosi to launch formal Trump impeachment inquiry: reports
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will announce later Tuesday that she supports a formal impeachment inquiry into President Trump,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_092419gn5_lead.jpg


[24-Sep-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy.


[24-Sep-19 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh hey Pelosi found her spine


[24-Sep-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the moment, until she backs up because nothing is 100% super undeniably perfectionist effective super combo


[24-Sep-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not impeachment, an investigation


[24-Sep-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But still caving, really


[24-Sep-19 09:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is basically just that first scene with Mud Briar figuring out how to say goodbye in political format


[24-Sep-19 09:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is to say what ought to take 30 seconds took 5 and a half months


[24-Sep-19 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What it *does* do, though, is throw weight behind the efforts Nadler has already been making as the GOP begin machinations to try and make that Nadler-shaped thorn in their side go away


[24-Sep-19 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, I've got this unrelated yt video to share https://youtu.be/WmJ7CSRRCDM

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[24-Sep-19 09:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/teen-boy-anchor-in-skull-trnd/index.html

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A 14-year-old boy took a ship anchor to the head -- and survived. ...
Caleb Bennett has always felt at home on boats. The 14-year-old from Manatee County, Florida, grew up on the water, taking fishing trips with his family.
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[24-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ow


[24-Sep-19 10:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*minecraft hurting noise*


[24-Sep-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Sep-19 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ilkersezerrr/status/1176521829973975040?s=21

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#BREAKING: President Erdoğan showed the map of the safe zone that Turkey in favour of in the United Nations General Assembly and said "if the safe zone is widened until Raqqa and Deir ez Zor, the safe zone will be able to take up to 3 milion Syrian refugees"
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[24-Sep-19 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
Not even subtile now


[24-Sep-19 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
after all that's for Kurdish Terroristler


[24-Sep-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/462798-pelosi-backs-launching-formal-impeachment-inquiry-Trump

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Pelosi announces launch of formal impeachment inquiry into Trump
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Tuesday announced the launch of a formal impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_091719gn_lead.jpg


[25-Sep-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Greta Thunberg


[25-Sep-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking I know you like these


[25-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
heh


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
some people on another server i'm in are still dubious as to whether the impeachment proceedings will be a success or backfire


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
is there any chance they'll backfire


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
There are no proceedings


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Only an inquiry


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the phone call really is nothing, maybe?


[25-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Pelosi does not have enough spine to start proceedings


[25-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She didn't even want this but was forced into it


[25-Sep-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Aren't we a little close to elections tho


[25-Sep-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or at this point is it a thing to do now to distract his campaign machine.


[25-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what all the hearings were too


[25-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, the idea is that even worse shit will come out


[25-Sep-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this also gives them the power to grow a spine over inherent contempt


[25-Sep-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the subpoena executive privilege stonewall ain't gonna fly here


[25-Sep-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://whnt.com/2019/09/20/women-can-now-legally-go-topless-in-6-states-after-federal-ruling/

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https://whnt.com/2019/09/20/women-can-now-legally-go-topless-in-6-states-after-federal-ruling/
Women can now legally go topless in 6 states, after federal ruling
(KUTV) - A federal court ruling over a ban on women going topless in public has essentially made it legal for women to go topless in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, Kansas, and Oklahoma, according to news outlets.

CBS affiliate KUTV reports that the 10th Circuit Court...
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[25-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate already vowing to quash anything related to impeachment


[25-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
> CBS affiliate KUTV reports that the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals, which is over those six states, struck down a topless ban in Ft. Collins, Colo. after two women sued the city for the right to go topless in public.


[25-Sep-19 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Its, back that up plox? It's amazingly difficult to keep this whirlwind straight


[25-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wing, is McConnell still breathing?


[25-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/462890-senate-gop-vows-to-quash-impeachment-articles

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Senate GOP vows to quash impeachment articles
Senate Republicans are vowing to quickly quash any articles of impeachment that pass the House and warn that Democrats will feel a political backlash if they go forward and impeach President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_092419gn_lead.jpg


[25-Sep-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such a shocking turn of events!


[25-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[25-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/462903-trump-to-release-whistleblower-complaint-to-congress-report

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Trump to release whistleblower complaint to Congress: report
The White House is reportedly preparing to give Congress both the whistleblower complaint and Inspector General report at the heart of a brewing scandal that has led to a formal House impeachment inquiry against President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_092019getty_0.jpg


[25-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fox-news-apologizes-guest-calling-greta-thunberg-mentally-ill-n1058241

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Fox News apologizes for guest calling Greta Thunberg 'mentally ill'
Michael Knowles called the teenage climate activist mentally ill and said she was being exploited by the left, when he appeared on the network's evening newscast Monday.
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[25-Sep-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mighr as well, he confessed everything anyway


[25-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He must really think nothing is there.


[25-Sep-19 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's only one of the Fox anchors though


[25-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate votes 100-0 demanding the complaint


[25-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The transcript is just going to be "ARTICLE TWO" repeated 300 times over


[25-Sep-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He pleads the 2nd!


[25-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Mitch didn't trust the transcript


[25-Sep-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly, there's audio of biden joking about getting the ukrainian investigator fired


[25-Sep-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

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Joe Biden Brags about getting Ukranian Prosecutor Fired
In 2016 Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin, in his investigation of corruption involving Burisma Holdings, a natural gas company, identified Hunter B...
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[25-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But Uncle Joe has such a nice smile!


[25-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not currently the president


[25-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[25-Sep-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is gonna be the nominee at this point.


[25-Sep-19 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, even if Warren gets nominated, at least it would still be better than what the DNC offered every past election since Reagan


[25-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, from what it sounds like, it sounded like a bluff


[25-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
listen to the whole video


[25-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still not sure I like it


[25-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if bernie becomes the senate majority leader instead of president


[25-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'd get an appointment somewhere.


[25-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Man


[25-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
That'd be interesting


[25-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Better than Moscow Mitch


[25-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's an extraordinarily low bar, mind


[25-Sep-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a rock on a stick would be better than moscow mitch


[25-Sep-19 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mitch McTurtle


[25-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[25-Sep-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Assuming Bernie doesn't croak before next year


[25-Sep-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It will be a wonder if any of them make it to next year


[25-Sep-19 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yang will be the last man standing just due to sheer youth


[25-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Booker and Buttigieg aren't that old...


[25-Sep-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't take an actual Cory in the House, sorry


[25-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't get the reference, having not seen the show


[25-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think a lot of people understand how energetic bernie is


[25-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or remembering what show that is


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
like just looking at still photos, he looks like he's about to fall over


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Been nothing but a pile of anger for the past three decades


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
but people who actually meet him in person say he's a lot more lively


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Bernie moves a lot during his speeches


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's more liek a stand up comic with the amount of gestures he makes


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling bernie will live to his 90's before slowing down


[25-Sep-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope so


[25-Sep-19 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be a tragedy if trump outlives bernie...


[25-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
bernie is only 5 years older than trump


[25-Sep-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump looks around 5 years older than bernie but in that hollywood kind of way where he tried to cover his age with too much spray tan


[25-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-analysis-4382-why-is-donald-trump-leaning-forward-29a69fa4e742

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Body Language Analysis №4382: Why is Donald Trump Leaning Forwar...
In the past several days, it’s been reported that Donald Trump has been “standing weird”. Although the President’s leaning-forward posture…
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[25-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
basically, he wears inserts in his shoes that lift his heels up


[25-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
it makes him look taller


[25-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
but also fucks up his body position


[25-Sep-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does Putin stand like that?


[25-Sep-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had the horse half surgically removed


[25-Sep-19 03:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
that's not it. I don't stand like that, Women in heels don't stand like that. its his gut and bad posture.


[25-Sep-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I donlt think putin needs to have foot inserts, he's intimidating enough without them on the world stage


[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also doesn;t have the confidence issues trump does


[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Putin's well known to wear high heels


[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Oatsy#4039

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[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
it's because of his obesity


[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
trump is classified as obese btw


[25-Sep-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
High heels show more confidence than foot inserts


[25-Sep-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also probably a better pose adjustment


[25-Sep-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
> Donald Trump is standing with this posture — primarily because he has specially crafted, ‘lift shoes’. His added 2.5–3.5 inch heel-height causes him to lean forward. This configuration is accentuated by his obesity.


[25-Sep-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
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[25-Sep-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Notice also the knee-wrinkle on each man’s pants. Trudeau is listed as 6'2", but his knee-wrinkle is much higher than Trump’s (by approximately 6–8 inches). While there exists slight variations of extremity proportions from person-to-person, Trump’s knee-wrinkle corresponds to someone of considerably shorter stature.


[25-Sep-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I do not want to see him without his suit


[25-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's why he wears the suit


[25-Sep-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
now imagine all the 13-14 year old girls that had to see him naked and give him massages

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[25-Sep-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:ineedanadult:


[25-Sep-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Sep-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/alist/joaquin-phoenix-walks-out-of-telegraph-interview-joker-a4245116.html

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Joaquin Phoenix walks out of Joker interview after difficult question
Joaquin Phoenix is the latest actor to tackle the iconic DC supervillain Joker, following in the footsteps of Heath Ledger and Jared Leto.
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[25-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
the fact that everyone is attacking the movie for its subject matter instead of trying to fix society so that the movie is no longer relevant is pretty saddening tbh


[25-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
and I really don't think that even gen Z will be able to fix things when they're old enough to start participating in the government


[25-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
or they'll lose the drive by the time they're old enough


[25-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Treascair#7785
re: Trump leaning forward due to obesity:  *I'm* massively obese at 5'6" and 300+ and I don't lean like that.  Trump's totally trying to account for the lifts and he looks like more of a dumbass than usual as a result.


[25-Sep-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
:(


[25-Sep-19 04:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RZSTx9khWw

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Honest Government Ad | Cashless Welfare Card
The Australien Government has made an ad about the Cashless Welfare Card, and it's surprisingly honest and informative! -*- Want the facts about the card fro...
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[25-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Treascair, it's accentuated by his obesity, not directly caused by it


[25-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Treascair#7785
Ah, I think I misread the first go.  Appreciate the clarification.


[25-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
> His added 2.5–3.5 inch heel-height causes him to lean forward. This configuration is accentuated by his obesity.


[25-Sep-19 04:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so how small is trump ?


[25-Sep-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
he's large


[25-Sep-19 04:28 AM] illumnious#7938
PFFFFFFFF


[25-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251 (pinned)
Ugh, Rudy, I'm trying to fight the impeachment inquiry but I'm dummy thicc and the clapp of my ass cheeks keeps alerting Pelosi


[25-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Oatsy#4039
pft


[25-Sep-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
trump is probably only 6' tall, 5'11" minimum, 6'1" max


[25-Sep-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[25-Sep-19 04:56 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend and my favorites is: #ImpeachTheMF


[25-Sep-19 04:56 AM] Midknight#9798
I'm classified as obese and I don't stand that way. And unlike Trumplestiltskin, there, I don't need inserts to top 6 feet. Probably don't top 6'4" anymore due to spinal compression from hauling heavy objects around for years, but at 250 pounds that tips past the "overweight" part of the BMI charts even if a fair bit of it IS muscle 😛


[25-Sep-19 05:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realKyleOlbert/status/1176670889955549187?s=20

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THE REAL NEWS

While @SpeakerPelosi was pushing her “#ImpeachTrump” gambit, he was at the #UNGA discussing issues that affect us: #China’s theft of US jobs, technology, & wealth.

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[25-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Oatsy#4039

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[25-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Oatsy#4039
Imagine thinking people actually pay attention to the arguments and not side with what _feels_ right based on preconceived notions


[25-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Midknight#9798
actually, gun control is what's going to sink the Democrats on election day


[25-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Oatsy#4039
or side with what they've been bribed by


[25-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
Also


[25-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
Why does Trump always do those interviews next to a loud ass running helicopter


[25-Sep-19 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because reporters only manage to get in his way when he's on his way to and from the golf course


[25-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[25-Sep-19 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also have you noticed how every photo of Trump golfing has him waaaay the heck out in the rough?


[25-Sep-19 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[25-Sep-19 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
:grumphorse:


[25-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/aaron_kinney/status/1176255396572319745

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@TheOnion If we don't act quickly, an ice age will freeze everything! 

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[25-Sep-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, found your long lost capitalist twin


[25-Sep-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/bRDs7


[25-Sep-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently ben shapiro was a never trumper


[25-Sep-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://thewalrus.ca/is-it-illegal-to-lie-about-using-contraception/

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Is It Illegal to Lie about Using Contraception? | The Walrus
The law is meant to protect us from harm, but it does not protect our dignity
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[25-Sep-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
> The plaintiff’s case in PP failed, mostly for policy reasons. Canadian law, like many other jurisdictions, is extremely reluctant to recognize any cause of action that might allow people to circumvent child-support obligations. But the Court of Appeal also commented on whether the plaintiff could advance a claim for sexual battery—the non-criminal counterpart of sexual assault. Relying on Hutchinson, the Court of Appeal concluded that the plaintiff’s consent to the sex he had with the defendant had not been cancelled out by her alleged fraud, because a woman who lies about being on birth control does not expose her male partner to any risk of significant bodily harm.


[25-Sep-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[25-Sep-19 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, a woman in canada can lie about using contraceptives all she wants, but a man is a rapist if he lies about contraceptives


[25-Sep-19 09:46 AM] Midknight#9798
...yeah that's a double standard.


[25-Sep-19 09:46 AM] Midknight#9798
and physical harm isn't the only type of harm recognized by laws in the civilized world. Otherwise stealing wouldn't be illegal


[25-Sep-19 09:48 AM] Midknight#9798
the financial harm of suddenly being on the hook for child support due to such a lie should absolutely be considered, even if you don't care about the emotional harm of suddenly having a child you weren't ready for, didn't plan for, and knew you couldn't be the best dad ever for


[25-Sep-19 09:48 AM] Midknight#9798
because folks don't think guys have emotions that matter in cases like this a lot of the time


[25-Sep-19 09:49 AM] Midknight#9798
fuck those people. just not, y'know, sexually. 😛


[25-Sep-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's fucked


[25-Sep-19 09:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pregnancy entrapment is a fucked up system that needs to be  heavily fixed


[25-Sep-19 09:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont really know the legal term so  i;m gonna call it that


[25-Sep-19 09:52 AM] Midknight#9798
that woman belongs behind bars. the kid in the dad's custody, or with family members capable and willing to raise another kid, or foster/adopt. someone that twisted has no business raising kids to start with.


[25-Sep-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d2802715cb3b41c3ab15767530465536

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Federal prosecutors join Trump to block tax return subpoena
NEW YORK (AP) — Federal prosecutors are joining President Donald Trump in asking a federal judge in New York to temporarily block a state court grand jury subpoena seeking his tax...
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[25-Sep-19 10:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The way prosecutors act in this case, you;d think his tax returns would murder their whole careers


[25-Sep-19 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Transcript released


[25-Sep-19 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


[25-Sep-19 04:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow k


[25-Sep-19 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% and I can tell you the following..."


[25-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know wtf copypaste is doing, it's like it's interpolating from the image, but anyways...wtf


[25-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
this isn't how people talk


[25-Sep-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
either the guy was absolutely brown nosing and is a terrible actor or this is complete BS


[25-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh ew


[25-Sep-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
the text you get copypasting is like, inside the doc, it's some kind of really bad machine reading


[25-Sep-19 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
How the fukk do you get so bad you get "T ·think your c·ount,ry is very happy about that."?


[25-Sep-19 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Well yes, to tell you the truth, we are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to have a new format and a new type of government. You are a great teacher for us and in that. "


[25-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
"I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people."


[25-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
ooooh


[25-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So either the guy transcribing this is bad at grammar


[25-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
or this was definitely created last-minute


[25-Sep-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon preponderence of the evidence says this is bullshit.


[25-Sep-19 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, even this likely-doctored pile of bull says that Trump 1) Told Zelenskyy to investigate Biden and 2) that Giuliani would be talking to him about it


[25-Sep-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely omitting really direct stuff like Trump admonishing him with sanctions threats, but even so, all we need is to find out Giuiliani conveyed the threat and then it's certain.


[25-Sep-19 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking so I think the transcript is heavily doctored, but still 2/3rd of the puzzle at face value to incriminating Trump. This administration is so incompetent, it can't even doctor a transcript right.


[25-Sep-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Aren't we getting the complaint too?


[25-Sep-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[25-Sep-19 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So wait for that


[25-Sep-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, Trump would lose in civil court.


[25-Sep-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jury would award Biden money etc.


[25-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think ultimately there'll be enuff evidence that he'd lose in criminal court.


[25-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, the president doesn't go to court.


[25-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WH they use a some program to transcribe


[25-Sep-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt we're getting 19 Republican defections over him *just* abusing his authority to attakk a Democratic presidential candidate with his personal attorney as an intermediary.


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But I doubt that, AI should be able to tell the difference between there and their


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are 2 real oddities about the transcript, on that


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the image is really clear


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can tell ri and n apart


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
but whatever machine-reading was used couldn't.


[25-Sep-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[25-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would machine transcription produce an image that some other machine transcription reads to create the text?


[25-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why not bake the text it's trying to create directly in?


[25-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some kind of manipulation of the document went on, incompetently.


[25-Sep-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like whatever spat out the initial transcript wasn't what made the PDF, that is for certain.


[25-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the margins, there appear to be scanning errors


[25-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't Adobe Writer have OCR?


[25-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
this shit got printed out, then scanned with automatic machine reading of the text.


[25-Sep-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it's not the original


[25-Sep-19 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a redaction, even if the redaction is just smudging out the "confidential" markers


[25-Sep-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And of course the huge UNCLASSIFIED stampings haphazardly and crookedly and with low ink in some spots.


[25-Sep-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, how many people did this shit go thru without any proofreading?


[25-Sep-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait...first page


[25-Sep-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The eyes only, do not copy


[25-Sep-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's spaced a ton below the NOFORN thing


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone edited this before printing


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1176868937356718081

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[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they loaded up the document


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
hit enter a bunch of times to make room for the whole declassification order thing


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
printed it out


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
had the stuff stamped


[25-Sep-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
then scanned it into a PDF


[25-Sep-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
then added the declassification order, and whatever [ PkgNumberShort]  is supposed to be doing


[25-Sep-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's the correct official process...


[25-Sep-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think the same person is supposed to finalize what will be printed as who will be putting in the post-printing stuff.


[25-Sep-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
So most likely, the guy handling the addition of the declassification order thing in the top, was also assigned to "clean up" the document first, being a high level staffer who could help cover things up.


[25-Sep-19 07:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wrote an essay on video game political economy in like, two hours. I am sharing this fucking mess. It was written to be a comment to someone's chud take on Facebook which basically boils down to: video games are shit because people keeping buying it.

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[25-Sep-19 07:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is chud the new dudebro or is it something different


[25-Sep-19 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
yes


[25-Sep-19 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bad takes man, pretty much


[25-Sep-19 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37xHYTPjPU

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An Remy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37xHYTPjPU
Chapo Trap House - Felix making fun of Eric Garland
cockpringle bacon bitch https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-118-from-russia-with-chud-feat-sarah-jones-61817
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[25-Sep-19 07:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Another example of a chud take would be the bottom tweet

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[25-Sep-19 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tsar bomba level hot take


[25-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
She has the maturity to guide policy and to consent, and if some crazy billionnaire catches her vulnerable and coerces her into prostitution, he can enjoy a stint in jail.


[25-Sep-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, ya gotta be consistent on this shit or it always becomes a mess. People don't want to actually talk about how evil Epstein was, they just want to go "Well it's 18 in Florida so that's wrong!"


[25-Sep-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
epstein didn't pay 16 year olds for sex


[25-Sep-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He captured them for others to pay for sex under threat, yes.


[25-Sep-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
epstein was paid for others raping 16 year olds


[25-Sep-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
(he raped them himself as well)


[25-Sep-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody in the major parties wants to actually address that what he did would be illegal for any ages involved.


[25-Sep-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because of a multitude of factors.


[25-Sep-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to selectively use his whole deal as a cudgel, as usual.


[25-Sep-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, was gonna post this anyways, but now it's related https://thewalrus.ca/is-it-illegal-to-lie-about-using-contraception/

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Is It Illegal to Lie about Using Contraception? | The Walrus
The law is meant to protect us from harm, but it does not protect our dignity
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[25-Sep-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
the tl;dr is Canada fukked up on its consent law


[25-Sep-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
?


[25-Sep-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
I linked that here


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
last night


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, was a while ago.


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
it was linked 10 hours ago


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to talk about that for a bit


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Think the complaint will be anything the transcript isn't, @Nebbie ?


[25-Sep-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Canada COULD'VE made broad exceptions to consent that invalidate it


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead they only made exceptions for risks of bodily harm, which is BS


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
there should be a lot of asterisks on consent


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
and they're all common sense shit too


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
*mens rea's ghost lingers above*


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the complain may include stuff that Trump sent to Giuliani


[25-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
or stuff he had axed from the transcript


[25-Sep-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the big final piece here is relaying a threat to withhold shipments.


[25-Sep-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
We know he asked for Biden to be investigated, and that in and of itself isn't really illegal.


[25-Sep-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Using a personal attorney for state business is shady as shit, but also probably legal.


[25-Sep-19 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninashapiro/2019/09/24/oprah-suffered-a-vaccine-preventable-illness-now-shes-promoting-vaccines/

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Oprah Suffered A Vaccine-Preventable Illness. Now She's Promoting ...
Oprah Winfrey's recent bout with pneumonia raises awareness about pneumonia shots and flu shots. Has she changed her tune when it comes to vaccines? Will others follow?
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[25-Sep-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making investigation of a political rival a requirement for his actions is where things clearly go beyond the pale.


[25-Sep-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can kinda see an implied threat here


[25-Sep-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
wait, there's a vaccine for pneumonia?


[25-Sep-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well as I said, in civil court, he'd be found liable.


[25-Sep-19 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/white-woman-caught-on-video-lecturing-hong-kong-protesters-safety-is-more-important-than-freedom/

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White woman caught on video lecturing Hong Kong protesters: ‘Saf...
Video captured in Hong Kong shows a white woman lecturing protesters about why “safety is more important than freedom.” The video clip was posted on Twitter by the Passion Times. In the video, the woman is confronted by demonstrators as she takes down protest posters. “...
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[25-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The preponderence of the evidence says Trump used shipment delays to coerce an investigation of Biden, just from transcript and the other info we hav now.


[25-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
> It should be noted that vaccination does NOT reduce pneumonia.  A meta-analyses shows no decrease in pneumonia incidence as a result of vaccination, however it has been shown to be about 60-70% effective in preventing invasive disease (meningitis, bacteremia).  Only one study by Riley et al (Lancet. 1977 Jun 25;1(8026):1338-41) has demonstrated decreased mortality (by 44%)


[25-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But there's a reasonable doubt left about whether he actually made the threat.


[25-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
so the pneumonia vaccine doesn't actually reduce the chances of catching pneumonia


[25-Sep-19 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hilarious to me that the country that started a whisper campaign to denigrate any sort of Western liberalism by basically having the Chinese equivalent of "SJW" spread around is now probably paying one to do agitprop stuff @prism stryder(intexda)


[25-Sep-19 07:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ah, excellent. The person I wrote the essay for came back with a non-argument.


[25-Sep-19 07:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Excellent


[25-Sep-19 07:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
The discourse is real


[25-Sep-19 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
most of the people on one side only argue to own the libs, not to argue logically


[25-Sep-19 07:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
"lol AAA gaming is so bad why don't you all stop buying video games."


[25-Sep-19 07:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Actually let me tell you why you're wrong and offer a more holistic answer."


[25-Sep-19 07:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
"no"


[25-Sep-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I want to be angry! Why wont you just let me be angry aabout illogical things that don't make sense!?"


[25-Sep-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you tell him that the problems he likely has with AAA games are in fact criticisms of capitalism


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes. It was written into the essay.


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
he didn't read it


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then he got to the union conclusion and said unions don't have the power they did in the eighties or nineties.


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
my mom says unions are too powerful


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not like they didn't have any more after the seventies, at least in America. But apparently Trump has been re-radicalizing the Unions again.


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
even though they literally have no political power


[25-Sep-19 07:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
The IWW's membership since Trump took office has exploded.


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no political power is too much power to be holding!


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
I was talking to an IWW guy and he said there's a joke among the radical labor movement now that Trump has been their best recruiter.


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
she blames teacher's unions for the low quality of education in the US


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
The socialist awakening in America after 2016 has remobilized the wobblies.


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
because of tenured teachers who can't be fired


[25-Sep-19 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Typical neolib take, lmao


[25-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
there were apparently warehouses full of tenured teachers in new york city


[25-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
being paid to sit around and do nothing for the time they'd normally spend teaching


[25-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
because the city couldn't fire them


[25-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassignment_centers

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Reassignment centers
Reassignment centers are holding facilities for the New York City Department of Education, where more than 600 teachers accused of misconduct have been paid to work full-time doing nothing for months or years at a time while awaiting resolution of their cases.  Among teachers...


[25-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
> Reassignment centers are holding facilities for the New York City Department of Education, where more than 600 teachers accused of misconduct have been paid to work full-time doing nothing for months or years at a time while awaiting resolution of their cases.


[25-Sep-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sweet gig


[25-Sep-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, the guy came back at me with a snide take after I said I'm not writing for people who dine on the black pill: "Oof.
Coming from an artist who has not made non-politically aligned piece of art in what is most likely years and used to be respected beforehand... omega oof!"


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are you wasting your time with that


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
black pill?


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You could be jerking off or watching a movie, or both


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Accelerationists


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
I could have been playing vidya, but truth be told I'm good at wasting my morning time.


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
apparently "black pill (ideology)" on wikipedia redirects to incels


[25-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Black_pill

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Incel
Incels, a portmanteau of "involuntary celibates", are members of an online subculture who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one, a state they describe as inceldom.Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment...


[25-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything is shit, make it shitter, bring forth the next revolution after the degeneracy collapses, etc


[25-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
it redirects to the wrong link though


[25-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
supposed to redirect to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#%22Black_pill%22>


[25-Sep-19 08:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Black Pill, like the Red Pill, refers to a moment or thing you realize that opens you up to a "truth". The way the Red Pill is supposedly realizing the truth of something, the Black Pill goes further and into doomerism.


[25-Sep-19 08:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like, "This thing is true, and we're going to die for it. I embrace the demise!"


[25-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man I miss the guy who protested shirtless in front of Croatia's parliament demanding the government make a policy giving incels girlfriends


[25-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least he did something


[25-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just call him an emo kid


[25-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
that sounds like government-run tinder


[25-Sep-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
hmm, that doesn't actually sound like that bad of an idea


[25-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
as long as it keeps out the "every male is guaranteed a girlfriend" sex slave bullshit


[25-Sep-19 08:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
I would shitpost with this argument. But I don't think it'll go anywhere. At least in writing my long-form piece and saying it's not really just for him, I might get to someone following his page.


[25-Sep-19 08:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
I also know who he is on Derpi, but that'll be a run in on privacy that's not worth it.


[25-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure what nationalizing tinder would do that privately-run tinder doesn't already do though


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
I do like how he says people have zero respect in me, but after going political I've had more people thankful for it than when I was just a meme'r


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
I guess maybe have more information already stored about people


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
(99% of which was stored without consent, but still)


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
an AI would probably be good at suggesting good matches


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is it cyborg pony


[25-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it sounds like him


[25-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or penguin lagaan


[25-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
especially given how much information the US government collects about its citizens


[25-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he wanted basically the government to give out sex slaves yeah


[25-Sep-19 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, but I was thinking of a more equal way of getting people to pair off to breed consensually


[25-Sep-19 08:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon No. Someone else. To give a hint the guy's a Slovak I think. Or a Czech.


[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cyber/Cyborg is still an American


[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, genetically predisposed to be angry


[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
lol


[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
WEST SLAV MAD


[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1176595864699232257?s=19

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Warner Bros has released a statement on the controversy regarding ‘JOKER’:

“Neither the fictional character, nor the film, is an endorsement of real-world violence of any kind. It is not the intention of the film, filmmakers or the studio to hold this character up a...
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[25-Sep-19 08:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
According to his claims he's supposed to be dying because of some heart disease thing. But he's still posting strong via his brony page on Facebook


[25-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/hamontay/status/1176607003927621633

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redking (@hamontay)
https://twitter.com/hamontay/status/1176607003927621633
@DiscussingFilm Where were these people that when John Wick 3 came out or The Punisher
Twitter


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
> John Wick and The Punisher are straight up criminals whose actions should never be validated. Just because they look cool killing and have a "moral code" doesn't mean they're saints.


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
John Wick and the Punisher were also never "ironic" memes


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
SJWs are retarded


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
just


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
straight up retarded


[25-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[25-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
John Wick and the Punisher don't have GAMERS RISE UP memes


[25-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
are there people who unironically think gamers rise up isn't making fun of racists/sexists/etc?


[25-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[25-Sep-19 08:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
You know what does have RISE UP memes?


[25-Sep-19 08:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqkyHd1cZk

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DeGr8Alex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqkyHd1cZk
Ukrainian Anarchist Nestor Makhno vs Capitalist
Subtitled this for a shitton of time.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WGqkyHd1cZk/hqdefault.jpg


[25-Sep-19 08:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
This


[25-Sep-19 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have to understand, a lot of people are really really stupid, and they insulate themselves in their pools of stupid


[25-Sep-19 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49830588>

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[25-Sep-19 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Take a guess which one of those is pro-trump


[25-Sep-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
the guy who looks like milo yiannopoulos?


[25-Sep-19 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
||nah||


[25-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Top right or bottom left


[25-Sep-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
I just realized that the bottom left looks like a social justice mom


[25-Sep-19 08:38 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
bottom left for sure


[25-Sep-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/winemomculture/status/1176671546288627713

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the knife alien (@winemomculture)
https://twitter.com/winemomculture/status/1176671546288627713
my friend told me to read the classic “harry potter becomes a communist” fanfic since i am not of the fanfic world and haven’t been exposed and...give this person a pulitzer
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[25-Sep-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
I linked this fanfic here before


[25-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/463037-warren-surges-to-9-point-lead-in-california-poll

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Warren surges to 9-point lead in California poll
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) holds a 9-point lead over her closest competitor in California in a new poll of the 2020 Democratic primary released Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/warrenelizabeth_09252019getty.jpg


[25-Sep-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
the best timeline: warren as president, bernie as senate majority leader


[25-Sep-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
as an independent, bernie would be the best choice to move the senate away from partisan politics, which is what moscow mitch has been pushing hard for


[25-Sep-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
though to be fair, it started with harry reid


[25-Sep-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
btw, what happens if the party is split perfectly 50/50?


[25-Sep-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
is there just not a senate majority leader, or does the VP vote to break the tie?


[25-Sep-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
it'd be nice if the VP could actually take back its duties


[25-Sep-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
granted, I don't think pence would be any better than mcconnell


[25-Sep-19 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Sep-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[25-Sep-19 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
this tweet shows how ridiculously self-centered americans are


[25-Sep-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
The new praxis is just triggering vets online


[25-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/bayouwilson/status/1176609855433519107

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Brian Wilson (@bayouwilson)
https://twitter.com/bayouwilson/status/1176609855433519107
@inthesedeserts @CarlHigbie
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[25-Sep-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
HAHAHAHA LMAO


[25-Sep-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/463047-acting-director-of-national-intelligence-threatened-to-resign-if

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Acting director of national intelligence threatened to resign if T...
The acting director of national intelligence (DNI) reportedly threatened to resign if President Trump sought to block his testimony before Congress regarding the Ukraine scandal that has led to a formal impeachment inquiry in the H
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[25-Sep-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
this guy has more balls than the entirety of the US congress combined


[25-Sep-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
which is a pretty low bar, but still


[25-Sep-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463013-white-house-inadvertently-sends-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats

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White House inadvertently sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats
The White House on Wednesday inadvertently sent out its GOP talking points on President Trump's Ukrainian phone call to House Democrats.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_immigrationgop_051619getty.jpg


[25-Sep-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oopsie poopsie we made a fucky wucky


[25-Sep-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/soup_reviews/status/1176943259358285826

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AOC is hated by Libertarians because she stole the acronym for their most important issue
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[25-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/RSKYVHI

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THIS!
https://i.imgur.com/2U0ilDJh.jpg


[25-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
> Do the same with celebrities


[25-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/5gmPKVv.png

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[25-Sep-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://io9.gizmodo.com/u-s-military-issues-warning-to-troops-about-incel-viol-1838412331

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U.S. Military Issues Warning to Troops About Incel Violence at Jok...
The U.S. military has warned service members about the potential for a mass shooter at screenings of the Warner Bros. film Joker, which has sparked wide concerns from, among others, the families of those killed during the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
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[25-Sep-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
wasn't that linked here already?


[26-Sep-19 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1176199653190197250

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At a press conference minutes ago:

"When I took over the United States..." 

We need to get Trump out, now.
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[26-Sep-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know


[26-Sep-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If it was then it;s been long enough that it unloaded


[26-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
I could've sworn that was linked earlier today


[26-Sep-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it likely was and i wasn;t here for it


[26-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
that's the thing though, I can't actually find it


[26-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's like someone linked the article and then deleted it


[26-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
and I already checked all the other servers I'm on, it wasn't linked there


[26-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Great way to tank relations

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[26-Sep-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Silly zelensky, If trump is going down, he;s trying to take you with him, in a sad flailing sort of way that makes everyone uncomfortable and goes no where


[26-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Trump fire someone five days after this call


[26-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, he's fired so many that chances are yes


[26-Sep-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably fired 3 people that day


[26-Sep-19 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*first there came the secretary of defence, and i fired him.
then came the white house press secretary, and i fired him.
then came the minister of agriculture, and i fired him.
and then came Donald Trump, but i could not speak up, because i fired everyone else.*


[26-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
actually, he'd speak up anyway and claim it was him all along


[26-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
there was never anyone else


[26-Sep-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He does all the work in the white house, he;s the best every employee!


[26-Sep-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are unpaid interns a thing with the white house staff?


[26-Sep-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I feel like he would burn through a lot of those


[26-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/world/asia/china-xinjiang-muslim-camps.html

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China Wants the World to Stay Silent on Muslim Camps. It’s Succe...
Beijing is using economic and diplomatic pressure to quash any outcry, while governments are reluctant to risk financial ties and trade deals.
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[26-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Like Mr. Erdogan, the world has been noticeably quiet about Xinjiang, where China has built a vast network of detention camps and systematic surveillance over the past two years in a state-led operation to convert Uighurs into loyal, secular supporters of the Communist Party. Even when diplomats have witnessed the problems firsthand and privately condemned them, they have been reluctant to go public, unable to garner broad support or unwilling to risk financial ties with China.


[26-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463096-pentagon-letter-certified-ukraine-had-taken-action-to-decrease

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Pentagon letter certified Ukraine had taken action to decrease cor...
The Defense Department certified the Ukrainian government had taken action to reduce corruption in a May letter, undercutting recent White House cl
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_trumpdonald_09252019getty.jpg


[26-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Double oops


[26-Sep-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A little old, but important https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/462493-ny-schools-beginning-to-bar-unvaccinated-students-from-class

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NY schools beginning to bar unvaccinated students from class: report
Some schools in New York have reportedly begun to send students home if they haven’t received all required vaccinations after legislation recently went into effect ending religious exemptions for vaccines.
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[26-Sep-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how you do it.


[26-Sep-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You tell them "okay you can decide not to vaccinate, but you hav to homeschool"


[26-Sep-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
No putting the kids in a school where they can spread disease without all their shots.


[26-Sep-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
This isn't enough


[26-Sep-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
They need to arrest the parents


[26-Sep-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
there's no need to be proactive when a strong passive deterrent works nearly as well


[26-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's how it was done in the 40's/50's/60's


[26-Sep-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is that if you want to be anti vaxxers, your kids suffer as outcasts. It;s probably a lot more effective than arresting the parents because people would resist that too much


[26-Sep-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
social peer pressure is more effective than brute police force


[26-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
as much as I agree that what the parents are doing to their children is incredibly wrong (and has been successfully argued in court is abusive to the child), it is a slippery slope to just start arresting everyone who doesn't agree with you


[26-Sep-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially this, If you just start arrestign them, then what? how does this stop the anti vaxxer spread. People will become anti vaxxer just to spite the law as well


[26-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
arresting everyone is how you get stalinism-lite


[26-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
(stalinism just killed most of the dissenters)


[26-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
that is by far the biggest threat to leftist movements


[26-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
falling into the same pit that destroyed the chance of a strong socialist government capable of opposing the US for an extended period of time


[26-Sep-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
You can be arrested for endangering public health and safety under many provisions already


[26-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
stalin was a conservative reactionary isolationist


[26-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
unlike lenin and trotsky, who were progressive globalists


[26-Sep-19 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
Oh yeah


[26-Sep-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point of this law is that anti-vaxx parents get their cake and it;s full of gravelt hat thye have to swallow.


[26-Sep-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
Stalin started the thing where they would call you a "rootless cosmopolite" lol


[26-Sep-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You got your way but your kid isn;t allowed at school and you have to teach them personally"


[26-Sep-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
and he reversed the programme of helping indeginous langugages and national autonomous republics and started low-key promoting Russian nationalism


[26-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
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[26-Sep-19 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not that you arrest people you disagree with


[26-Sep-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
It's that you arrest people who are literally endangering their children and everyone around them


[26-Sep-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
You know like we already do with absent or abusive parents


[26-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's for the courts to decide


[26-Sep-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
and they have decided in that direction, at least in other nations


[26-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YRStAfP

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Never dont share. Anti-vaxxers are so misguided
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[26-Sep-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
related


[26-Sep-19 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
"Never don't share"


[26-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
two negatives make a positive


[26-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
my physics professor called it "two wrongs make a right"


[26-Sep-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/1176939818950918144

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Very curious that a big counterargument to the smol climate girl in the rightosphere today is "If I can't fuck it, I shouldn't have to pay attention to it"
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[26-Sep-19 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Libertarians tho


[26-Sep-19 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
@ononim


[26-Sep-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's a combination of the collective american (and somewhat general western idea) idea that children have no rights and should only be seen, not heard, on top of the general human trend for the past tens of thousands of years to turn women into slaves for men


[26-Sep-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically triggering the collective american/general human psyche and causing the cognitive dissonance to be ramped up to 42


[26-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
>cat mewling at the door wanting to get in because outside, things are on fire


[26-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
>cats can't consent to sex bro, why should I listen to them about how I manage my yard?


[26-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
More seriously, she is able to consent in Sweden and much of the US, the whole thing is just a red herring.


[26-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And she has some sound advice.


[26-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463119-pence-trump-has-been-completely-vindicated-with-ukraine-call

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Vice President Mike Pence said Wednesday that President Trump has been “completely vindicated” by the released transcript of his call with Ukraine’s president.
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[26-Sep-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And right after Trump told people to look at Pences calls


[26-Sep-19 03:05 AM] ononim#8141
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[26-Sep-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1176595864699232257?s=21

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[26-Sep-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This says a lot about our society


[26-Sep-19 03:29 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
I wish a clown was president for no reason


[26-Sep-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wish granted! he's been there for 3 years now

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[26-Sep-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd be an improvement


[26-Sep-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At least clowns know that it's all an act


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
> Where were these people that when John Wick 3 came out or The Punisher


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow again


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Society


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
> John Wick and The Punisher are straight up criminals whose actions should never be validated. Just because they look cool killing and have a "moral code" doesn't mean they're saints.


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
They were there they just didn't care


[26-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
BUT THE DOGGO :doggo: :sad::sad::sad:


[26-Sep-19 03:31 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
They killed his dog he had every right


[26-Sep-19 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
VENGEANCE


[26-Sep-19 03:33 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
In the movie all dogs go to heaven John wick is jesus


[26-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
W e  l i v e  i n  a  s o c i e t y.


[26-Sep-19 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie lives in our ass


[26-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I liv inside everyone's asses, and they all die in mine.


[26-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what we call "capitalism"


[26-Sep-19 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More like, crapitalism amirite


[26-Sep-19 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalassm


[26-Sep-19 03:34 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
That's the movie inception


[26-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine Inception, but it's an economic fraud thriller about shell companies.


[26-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the world we liv in.


[26-Sep-19 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Society*


[26-Sep-19 03:36 AM] ColdCornbread#8159
Politics and more on Earth coming October 5


[26-Sep-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a disney

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[26-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there's any political cartoons that represent a gun in one of a CEO's hands as the police, and a bag filled with money stolen from the poor in the other hand


[26-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think many political cartoons make the direct connection between the police and the ruling class though


[26-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the wealthy use politicians as the intermediaries.


[26-Sep-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.jta.org/quick-reads/daughter-of-israeli-father-and-first-arab-astronaut-launch-to-space-station

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Hazzaa al-Mansoor of the United Arab Emirates and Jessica Meir, an American, took off on the historic trip from Kazakhstan.
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[26-Sep-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/30-republicans-vote-impeach-trump-secret-1461389

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"The politics of it will get worse and worse for Trump," Mike Murphy said.
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[26-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's a good idea


[26-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
that's a really good idea, actually


[26-Sep-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
too bad it'd be leaked within days


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, if they don't trust their electronic system, they should be able to just pass along a hat with paper ballots around...


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll say nothing during the trial and then show their vote


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
no, as in the senators would tell their staff


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
or tell their wives


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
or their child


[26-Sep-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
or whatever


[26-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's on them for being idiots


[26-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
and there will always be at least one person who knows all the votes


[26-Sep-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
and can act accordingly


[26-Sep-19 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty disappointed to see that throughout today's discussion you guys kept referring to the document as a "transcript"


[26-Sep-19 04:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So, to recap:
This morning congress received a memorandum on the Trump/Ukraine phone call. Notably, it is not a transcript nor even a redacted one, and says so explicitly at the bottom of each page. Despite this a number of media outlets including WaPo have referred to the document as a "transcript." At the same time that congress received the memorandum, Trump was holding a press conference, btw. We also happen to know what the GOP talking points were to be on the memorandum - there was no corruption, no quid pro quo - because someone accidentally *emailed them to Nancy Pelosi.* And then tried too late to undo that; the email had already been opened and therefore couldn't be deleted. Whoops.
Also caught off-guard was the Ukranian PM himself, who apparently wasn't expecting both sides of the conversation to be included in the memorandum and had posted a picture this morning on Twitter of his meeting with Trump at the UN last night. Double whoops. As for the talking points, well, they're pretty garbage because even the whitewashed version of the conversation outlines in no uncertain terms the quid pro quo Trump was attempting to arrange. And even so, the "quid" is already a crime, but the "pro quo" part makes it worse. This despite both Trump's personal lawyer and William Barr claiming that nothing Trump did on that call was illegal before this memorandum was even released. It should also be worth noting that this is separate and distinct from the original whistleblower claim, which was set to be released to congress at 4PM today, and I haven't checked yet to see if it has.


[26-Sep-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for the spelling/grammar errors: Yeah, something's up with that. They took a real cavalier approach to punctuation. So cavalier, in fact, that it's impossible to tell whether the 3 uses of ellipses are acting as redactions, or as informal pauses. Curiously, all 3 appear right as Trump is making requests of Zelensky


[26-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, I've been proofreading fics for people lately and suggesting edits


[26-Sep-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh wait no I *do* remember the claim was made available for reading - and a whole bunch of senators came out looking like they'd seen a ghost


[26-Sep-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the lakk of commas in the "transcript" hurt me.


[26-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like I am trying to fix this porn fic that in some areas had grammar like the guy had a drunk kindergartener do it


[26-Sep-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's about on that level.


[26-Sep-19 04:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, I found the original document https://i.redd.it/tcph2vmqgto31.jpg

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[26-Sep-19 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is weird that so many in the GOP are quiet or want to see more


[26-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've probably just realized


[26-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that what they've seen means supporting Trump means losing reelection.


[26-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ghost they're seeing is their political careers.


[26-Sep-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the event that could make McConnell lose.


[26-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider it, @Itsthinking


[26-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't impeach


[26-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
for 3 months, more shit comes out


[26-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it turns out Trump threatened Ukraine's leader with war or such


[26-Sep-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Polls shoot to Dem +20 on the generic ballot


[26-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Election day 2020 rolls around and the word on the street is that Trump is a crook


[26-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who robbed America blind


[26-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and gave things to Russia


[26-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in conservative circles.


[26-Sep-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren wins by a landslide


[26-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cascade onto the lower ballots could unseat every Republican up for reelection in the Senate.


[26-Sep-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Cool fantasy


[26-Sep-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Doesn't matter as long as the libs get owned


[26-Sep-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Don't you know that we live in a society?


[26-Sep-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, it can become possible, and that's the fear


[26-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if it only shoots McConnell in the ass, that's a huge hit


[26-Sep-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just saw their reelection chances go from "probably" to "probably not"


[26-Sep-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure it matters, all they have to do is to make false equivalence again and then dig up some last minute dirt on the democrats


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think many realize how bad the complaint probably is


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And are like "fuck"


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Bam, republicans win again in heavily gerrymandered districts


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte, the trouble is


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
first of all it's the Senate, not gerrymandering


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that's the House...which they ALREADY LOST)


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second, do realize that we're not talking about like a 90% win for "probably"


[26-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like a 60% win


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which individually sukks, but altogether is fine, because on average they wouldn't lose seats.


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Not even mentioning voter suppression techniques


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole trouble is that Mitch McConnell has like a 55%


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
which could easily go to a 49%


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if the same trend applies to others


[26-Sep-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then suddenly retaining even a majority is a coin flip


[26-Sep-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
He could still win with a 49% as long as enough young people are suppressed from voting


[26-Sep-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even if they got that majority, it'd likely be without Mitch


[26-Sep-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suppression only goes so far.


[26-Sep-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
These percents are ASSUMING suppression.


[26-Sep-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican suppression machine cannot simply work harder, it's at its limits.


[26-Sep-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, they've hit a major obstacle.


[26-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Sasse was saying there's issues with the complaint and Republicans shouldn't discount it


[26-Sep-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
How is it at its limits


[26-Sep-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because operating at its limits pushed things to like 55% Republican, byte


[26-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how they GOT HERE


[26-Sep-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind they're losing by 10 points in the generic ballot


[26-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it weren't for the wild disparity in state population, they would've lost the Senate ages ago


[26-Sep-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are holding on by securing tentative little grips on power, based on tiny advantages.


[26-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now lets say this thing is big enuff it makes them go from 55% to 50%


[26-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems end up with a slim Senate majority EASILY under that.


[26-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans hav been destroying needing 60 votes


[26-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning...Dems could then turn the tables


[26-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And start passing Medicare For All and similar


[26-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the real trouble is, the whole Republican hold on power is based on one very important thing: Making people mad at the system being ground to a halt.


[26-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as THEY are in power, they can keep it stukk not doing shit except hurting people and screwing the economy


[26-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but as soon as Dems are in power, truly, Dems can start plowing ahead with reforms that make people happy and want to vote for Dems


[26-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav set up a system where any loss leads to perpetual loss, because they can only win from a winning position.


[26-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican strategy is win-more, not lose-less.


[26-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who's played a card game knows this is a baaaad idea, because eventually you start losing.


[26-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, that's why they're looking at bailing on Trump right now.


[26-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the dems pussyfoot around with what the republicans use as a metaphorical battering ram


[26-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
because they're ultimately mostly neoliberal, not actually leftist


[26-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
and neoliberalism resonates more closely with moderate, center-right action


[26-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RepChrisStewart/status/1177049741768761344

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BREAKING NEWS: The whistleblower complaint has been declassified. I encourage you all to read it.
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[26-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Public release will have some redactions, but tomorrow testimony


[26-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
where is it?


[26-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
I guess it isn't actually released yet?


[26-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, a bunch of congressmen got it


[26-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
I mean available to the public


[26-Sep-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[26-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, do consider


[26-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Epstein investigation is ongoing right now


[26-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
We know of a complaint alleging Trump raped a 13-year-old at one of Epstein's parties, which was retracted shortly before the election.


[26-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is likely not lost on many Republicans.


[26-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could well suspect that if they refused to impeach Trump, then more shit would come out, and they'd be in the position of "didn't impeach a child rapist president"


[26-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, if it was *just* child rape, maybe they could've denied


[26-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then this Ukraine thing came out of nowhere and blindsided them.


[26-Sep-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to fight the MeToo movement, they'd also hav to fight political moderates and legions of lawyers.


[26-Sep-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do **not** fight both MeToo and its opponents at the same time.


[26-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Care more about the Ukraine thing than that


[26-Sep-19 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not convinced they can't just weasel their way out of consequences again


[26-Sep-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Even if all the avenues you discussed are truly closed off, I feel like they'll find a suitable distraction


[26-Sep-19 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Besides, Russia is still a serious threat to election security


[26-Sep-19 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
They could tamper again, this time in a much more serious way


[26-Sep-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
The GOP has already set the stage for them to do so


[26-Sep-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
And sure, maybe that'd drive the electorate to murderous insanity in the next elections


[26-Sep-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
But they only care about winning now, so that they can dismantle as much progress as possible


[26-Sep-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
this multi-issue pileup


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
is just enuff to get them wanting to impeach


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
after ALL THE SHIT we've had


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, yes, they can still weasel out


[26-Sep-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But right now they're seeing that at a later point they'd hav to not.


[26-Sep-19 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It also does not help that Giuliani threw himself square in the center of this and blew it all to kingdom come. Even if Trump throws him under the bus (which he's finally doing) he's his personal lawyer. Sure there are 29 others to take his place, but whatever Trump does to distance himself from rudy only shines light on himself. Which is why he's apparently throwing Pence under the bus, *too*


[26-Sep-19 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Pence was the ace up the sleeve but if he gets dragged into the fray there is no plan C. Plan C is *Nancy Pelosi*


[26-Sep-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also trying to throw Pence under too.


[26-Sep-19 07:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what I'm saying


[26-Sep-19 07:14 AM] Midknight#9798
any other president who'd done a fraction of the stuff they have on him would already have been convicted and turfed out of office and be in prison on multiple federal and state convictions


[26-Sep-19 07:14 AM] Midknight#9798
dammit wrong link


[26-Sep-19 07:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Wrong channel...


[26-Sep-19 07:15 AM] Midknight#9798
https://derpibooru.org/1931589

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[26-Sep-19 07:15 AM] Midknight#9798
there.


[26-Sep-19 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, the line of succession goes president -> VP -> speaker of the house. Maybe that's why Trump said Pelosi isn't the speaker of the house anymore :twismug:


[26-Sep-19 07:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Past optimism has not held out and so i expect nothing to fundamentally change


[26-Sep-19 07:25 AM] Midknight#9798
because politics is a steaming shitpile 🙂


[26-Sep-19 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
GOP won't abandon trump


[26-Sep-19 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, if the house does actually vote to make the impeachment investigation official, things *will* fundamentally change as it will take Barr out of the picture legally


[26-Sep-19 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump will probably be reelected


[26-Sep-19 07:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Impeachment could happen but president will not be removed


[26-Sep-19 07:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Election will be publicly interfered with and nobody will stop it


[26-Sep-19 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Only two presidents have ever actually gotten to the point of "impeachment actually happening" in history


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think that's the metric by which to measure success


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] Midknight#9798
because one resigned when told he'd be convicted if he stuck it out


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, I'm not counting Nixon


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] Midknight#9798
i know


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Jackson and Clinton


[26-Sep-19 07:28 AM] Midknight#9798
i know


[26-Sep-19 07:29 AM] Midknight#9798
Nixon was going to be. And was told the Senate was ready to convict based on what had already been seen. So he resigned before it happened.


[26-Sep-19 07:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as for election interference, kinda lost in the mix was this dire warning https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/09/24/new-cyberwarfare-report-unveils-russias-secret-weapon-against-us-2020-election/#443d38ee68f5

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Russian Secret Weapon Against U.S. 2020 Election Revealed In New C...
A terrifying​ new report maps out Russia's full cyberwarfare ecosystem, an attack structure designed​ to be “almost impossible” to defend against.
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[26-Sep-19 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr someone mapped russia's hacker network and it's big and no one's sharing code with each other, which means $$$$$$


[26-Sep-19 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
`The approach points to extraordinary levels of investment. “From my perspective,” Yaniv Balmas, Check Point’s head of cyber research tells me. “We were surprised and unhappy—we wanted to find new relationships and we couldn't. This amount of effort and resources across six huge clusters means huge investment by Russia in offensive cyberspace. I have never seen evidence of that before.”`


[26-Sep-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
it'd probably be cheaper to go to war with russia at this point than to try and fight that lmao


[26-Sep-19 07:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, we *could* make it harder for them to do any damage but we're running out of time


[26-Sep-19 07:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
things like paper or offline backups of important data like voter registrations and ballots cast, parity checks, even the most rudimentary hardening of networks


[26-Sep-19 07:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How much of our nation's election system is just sitting around in CSV files protected by passwords that a dictionary attack could crack in 5 minutes or less?


[26-Sep-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moscow Mitch will make sure lots of it will be.


[26-Sep-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-christian-right-is-helping-drive-liberals-away-from-religion/

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Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-christian-right-is-helping-drive-liberals-away-from-religion/
The Christian Right Is Helping Drive Liberals Away From Religion
A few weeks ago, the Democratic National Committee formally acknowledged what has been evident for quite some time: Nonreligious voters are a critical part of t…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GettyImages-904316966-16x9.jpg?w=575


[26-Sep-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, secularism isn't making people more liberal, disdain for conservatives turning to religion is making people more secular.


[26-Sep-19 10:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol, https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/world/elizabeth-may-cup-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

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Canada's Green Party doctors a picture of its leader holding a dis...
Canadian Green Party leader Elizabeth May, who built her platform on sustainability, said she was "shocked" to find her team had doctored a press photo of her to remove a disposable cup.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190926120514-elizabeth-may-cup-split-01-super-tease.jpg


[26-Sep-19 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnsons-language-tasteless-says-sister-115600205.html

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnsons-language-tasteless-says-sister-115600205.html
Boris Johnson's language was 'tasteless' - says his sister
Rachel Johnson has called the language her brother used at the dispatch box in the House of Commons "tasteless".  Appearing on The Pledge to be aired on Sky News tonight, Ms Johnson, who has been a vocal opponent of her brother Boris Johnson, the prime minister, over Britain ...
https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/social/images/yahoo_default_logo.png


[26-Sep-19 02:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463152-read-unclassified-whistleblower-complaint#

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463152-read-unclassified-whistleblower-complaint
READ: Unclassified whistleblower complaint
The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday released a declassified version of a whistleblower complaint detailing allegations about President Trump's contacts with Ukraine's president.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_trumpdonald_09252019getty.jpg


[26-Sep-19 02:56 PM] byte[]#2610
just sitting here trying to imagine the faces of the officials who sat in on the phone call


[26-Sep-19 02:57 PM] byte[]#2610
did they look concerned? helpless?


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/read-full-text-whistleblower-complaint-n1058971

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/read-full-text-whistleblower-complaint-n1058971
Read the full text of the whistleblower complaint
The complaint, which the administration initially withheld from Congress, was declassified with minimal redactions.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_01/2705191/nbc-social-default_b6fa4fef0d31ca7e8bc7ff6d117ca9f4.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.png


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon see above


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
won't be able to read until the evening


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ah


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
direct link to the pdf https://www.scribd.com/embeds/427562501/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&access_key=key-Rn6GmSwWEucpWPwKTICf&show_recommendations=true

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Scribd


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
if you want to read it now


[26-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just spotted before heading to a meeting -_-


[26-Sep-19 03:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still going through it


[26-Sep-19 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.redd.it/rw721br30xo31.jpg

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[26-Sep-19 03:11 PM] Mikey#7286
I don't get it


[26-Sep-19 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
simple test-kid trying to figure out which glass has more liquid


[26-Sep-19 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
first pic-same glass same amount of liquid


[26-Sep-19 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
second pic-some dude is pouring liquid into tall glass


[26-Sep-19 03:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
third pic-kid thinks that tall glass has more liquid


[26-Sep-19 03:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
When the tall glass was filled with one of the containers in the first pic


[26-Sep-19 03:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Yes but what does it have to do with the Reddit pic


[26-Sep-19 03:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It implies that number of wards != number of votes


[26-Sep-19 03:20 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[26-Sep-19 03:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People saying it's nothing because he's only reporting what other people told him


[26-Sep-19 03:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-whistleblower-ukraine-call-records-foreign-officials-separate-computer-system-a9120961.html

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White House moved records of president's conversations with foreig...
Whistleblower alleges officials did this with US president's July call with Ukraine
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/09/25/22/1171078544.jpg


[26-Sep-19 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
So official correspondence is now on a private server?


[26-Sep-19 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder where I've heard that one before 🤔


[26-Sep-19 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.inquisitr.com/5656541/donald-trump-mike-pence-conversations-ukraine-president-transcripts/

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Jonathan Vankin
https://www.inquisitr.com/5656541/donald-trump-mike-pence-conversations-ukraine-president-transcripts/
Donald Trump Claims Mike Pence Also Had Conversations With Ukraine...
Donald Trump made a surprise claim in his United Nations press conference Wednesday, apparently implicating Vice President Mike Pence in the Ukraine scandal. Hours after the White House released a ...
https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Donald-Trump-110.jpg


[26-Sep-19 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
NPR is doing the impeachment hearings now live


[26-Sep-19 04:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently he said he hasn't investigated the truthfulness


[26-Sep-19 04:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nunes trying to undercut it


[26-Sep-19 04:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But like, corroborated


[26-Sep-19 04:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm a simple man, I see a DoNotEat upload and I turn off the hearings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOS68qWHhw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOS68qWHhw
Untitled Engineering Disaster Podcast-like content Episode 1: The ...
So @AliceAvizandum and I are trying to do an engineering disasters podcast, but with slides, because like, engineering is visual. Regular content coming back...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1TOS68qWHhw/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Sep-19 06:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1177256808072671233?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1177256808072671233?s=21
Is there a case for impeachment? Absolutely not! There is no high crime or misdemeanor, no crime, no extortion, no treason.” Robert Ray  @FoxNews
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[26-Sep-19 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/tweetsonamug/status/1177256841547583489

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Tweets on a Mug (@tweetsonamug)
https://twitter.com/tweetsonamug/status/1177256841547583489
@realDonaldTrump @FoxNews https://t.co/65BxlZcQFG
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Twitter


[26-Sep-19 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/6LIIKoz

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::chef’s kiss::
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[26-Sep-19 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/kzT8NIz.jpg

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[26-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/vyCNYpk.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/vyCNYpk.jpg


[26-Sep-19 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/such_A_frknlady/status/1176979501462540288

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nigersaurus rex (@such_A_frknlady)
https://twitter.com/such_A_frknlady/status/1176979501462540288
i have a ph.d. in cognitive & systems neuroscience, with concentrations in infectious diseases and psychopharmacology. https://t.co/10RttD1gYB
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[26-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
hahahahaha, the tweets were deleted and the account is now protected


[26-Sep-19 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
stupid bitch got smacked the fuck down


[26-Sep-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, every single tweet that @mexico_mamii posted in that chain of replies was deleted


[26-Sep-19 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463217-lewandowski-says-hes-open-to-role-defending-trump-against-impeachment

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Lewandowski says he's open to role defending Trump against impeachment
President Trump's former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski indicated Thursday that he would be willing to take on a role to aid Trump in the looming impeachment fight with House Democrats, but said he has not had formal conversations with th
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/lewandowskicorey_091719gn10_lead.jpg


[26-Sep-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
he may be impeached, but he won't be removed


[26-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would be dumb idea for this guy


[26-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP is more apprehensive than I expected


[26-Sep-19 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate GOP at least


[26-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How is impeachment working in USA, tldr version please?


[26-Sep-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
> This would be the metaphorical equivalent of advising a meth-ed out PTSD stricken type pilot a plane full of nuns and children.


[26-Sep-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
house files articles of impeachment against the official and votes on whether or not to impeach (if house vote fails, official is not impeached)


[26-Sep-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
if vote succeeds, official is impeached, and the senate votes whether to remove the official from office (if senate vote fails, official is impeached but remains in office)


[26-Sep-19 07:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point of impeachment if kicking fails?


[26-Sep-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
symbolic


[26-Sep-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
though it may go on to improve an official's standing in public opinion (clinton rode this after the senate failed to remove him)


[26-Sep-19 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure it was because everyone realized that clinton got impeached for bullshit reasons


[26-Sep-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
he lied about a blowjob


[26-Sep-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
lying about a blowjob is different from lying about defrauding the US and embezzling federal funds


[26-Sep-19 07:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
And being impeached by congress for a blowjob is a big joke


[26-Sep-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463236-the-five-most-serious-charges-in-the-whistleblowers-complaint#

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The five most serious charges in the whistleblower's complaint
President Trump’s troubles grew deeper and darker on Thursday morning when a whistleblower complaint became public.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/maguirejoseph_092619gn3_lead.jpg


[26-Sep-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
'This effort, the complainant alleges, took the form of removing the “electronic transcript” of the call from the computer system where such transcripts would usually be stored and transferring it to a separate, more secure and more restricted system.'


[26-Sep-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That explains a lot.


[26-Sep-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[26-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
that transcript is for sure still lokked up


[26-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we got was a recreation from Trump's memory


[26-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
him dictating to a staffer that hurriedly put it together, printed it out, then released it.


[26-Sep-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
WH tried to hide the call


[26-Sep-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I love how what they're going on is "second hand info isn't good" when they released a transcript that corroborates everything


[26-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not a transcript.


[26-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we got is a memo recreation masquerading as a transcript.


[26-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you follow that logic, then it contradicts them saying to trust this.


[26-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is clearly not the original information.


[26-Sep-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zelensky's name isn't even spelled right.


[26-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump dictated this shit as a recreation of how he remembered it.


[26-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's STILL highly incriminating.


[26-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are scared.


[26-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate GOP sure is.


[26-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless all they have is "oh it's second hand"


[26-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they hav provided itself is second hand.


[26-Sep-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the issue.


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People misusing hearsay too


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are saying "no trust OUR indirect info...which shows us to be crooks also"


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, their defense is gonna be


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that since what they released isn't the transcript


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
any charges based off of it are meaningless


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that it is hearsay


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The transcript was never meant to be the full thing


[26-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are going to say that their own incriminating evidence produced as exculpatory is inadmissable.


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, it's not just not the full thing.


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is NOT A TRANSCRIPT AT ALL


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well I mean


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They tried to bury the call


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They probably don't have an actual transcript


[26-Sep-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a cover up.


[26-Sep-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
No they hav an actual transcript


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's what the complaint alleges


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
That the transcript was lokked behind extra protection so NOBODY but the President could get to it, and some senior staff


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
lokked away even from others in the intelligence community


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
higher than the toppest of top secret


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
for political reasons, not national security reasons.


[26-Sep-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that this is *normal* for Trump


[26-Sep-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that he's hiding a lot of awful shit this way, likely in violation of laws relating to presidential documents.


[26-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The complaint says, that not only did the quid pro quo happen in the way the fake transcript says, with Giuliani as an intermediary


[26-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that Trump has been covering up this and other things.


[26-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, what's gonna happen is, this is gonna blow up more and more


[26-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The administration seeing fire, will say BUT THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY A TRANSCRIPT


[26-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
this much was obvious to the Senators, but


[26-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
then Dems will say "giv us the actual transcript" with a subpoena


[26-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will then claim executive privilege etc., judiciary will rule against it


[26-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will defy the judiciary


[26-Sep-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
constitutional crisis could lead to removal from office.


[26-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe we'll have a Nixon type sit-down


[26-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man Giuliani really is a bad actor


[26-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[26-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
He always has been.


[26-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you not seen the 9/11 fukking thing?


[26-Sep-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/lcexgh/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-drop-outs

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The Drop Outs - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Video Clip) | Com...
John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani drop out of the presidential race.
https://comedycentral.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/tds/videos/season_13/13015/tds_13015_02_v6.jpg


[26-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
About 6 minutes in


[26-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rudy Giuliani used 9/11 talk to get votes SO MUCH that it became appropriate to show the numbers having sex on a bed.


[26-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is a fukking conservative loon


[26-Sep-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who masquerades as a Democrat because it helped him get votes in New York


[26-Sep-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking implication of Barr too tho


[26-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barr has always been super shady


[26-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barr wrote a report in 1992 called The Case for More Incarceration


[26-Sep-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
THE CASE FOR MORE INCARCERATION


[26-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE HIGHEST RATE OF INCARCERATION IN THE WORLD


[26-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[26-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barr is a fukking abomination in human skin.


[26-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants to put everyone who isn't blindingly white in jail.


[26-Sep-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you so surprised that any of Trump's guys are bad actors?


[26-Sep-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump pikked them, it's because they *promised* to *intentionally* do *the most corrupt shit possible*.


[26-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Acosta, the guy who gave Epstein the plea deal of the century and broke the law to not tell the victims?


[26-Sep-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Sessions, the guy who promised the more moderate Senate Republicans he'd bakk off on medical marijuana, then reversed Obama-era policy that said the feds wouldn't override state law and go in with SWAT teams on dispensaries?


[26-Sep-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's transportation secretary is Moscow Mitch's fukking WIFE


[26-Sep-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's entire cabinet is **based** on corruption.


[26-Sep-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be surprising if Barr *wasn't* implicated.


[26-Sep-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463233-voters-split-on-whether-trumps-actions-toward-ukraine-amount-to

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Voters evenly split on whether Trump's Ukraine actions amount to '...
Americans are evenly split on whether President Trump’s actions encouraging his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden amount to an impeachable offense, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Thurs
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_trumpdonald_09252019getty.jpg


[26-Sep-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Half support it without any hearings


[26-Sep-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess independents came around.


[26-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, 538 did an interesting thing looking at where "independents", "moderates", and "undecideds" sit on the political spectrum


[26-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was one universal trend


[26-Sep-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like nobody was in the "pro-immigrationt, market-oriented" quadrant


[26-Sep-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially the Libertarian quadrant


[26-Sep-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who are big into capitalism HATE immigrants


[26-Sep-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who aren't big into capitalism are divided on immigration, but cluster more towards being pro.


[26-Sep-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the current capitalist system can't sustain itself without immigrants


[26-Sep-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
so the people who support capitalism would rather destroy its only method of sustaining itself, which would clear the way for something new to replace it


[26-Sep-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
No immigrants


[26-Sep-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
But age is just a number


[26-Sep-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[26-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[26-Sep-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Berpis


[26-Sep-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mitch said nothing when asked


[26-Sep-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
moscow's bitch


[26-Sep-19 09:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/lochlanoneil/status/1177060831613218816

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[26-Sep-19 09:29 PM] ononim#8141
Posting here to not get yelled "no politics!" at in the other cahts


[26-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/19/silicon-valley-terrified-california-privacy-law/

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[26-Sep-19 09:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49835830

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Children killed for 'defecating in the open'
Police in India say the two men allegedly beat two Dalit children to death for defecating in the open.
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[26-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463264-giuliani-dismisses-whistleblower-report-as-hearsay-a-dem-phony-attack

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President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is scoffing at a whistleblower complaint made public Thursday as House Democrats more forward with an impeachment effort based on claims that the president sought to pressure the leader o
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[26-Sep-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Designated.


[26-Sep-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is Giuliani saying this is hearsay when it isn't in a court of law


[26-Sep-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1177311393185447936

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...Suppose I was representing Hillary Clinton, there would be a civil liberties revolt about intimidating a lawyer in the performance of his duties. That’s ok, I fully expected it.
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[26-Sep-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because he barely understands the law


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I’m not. And I will be the hero! These morons—when this is over, I will be the hero...I’m not acting as a lawyer. I’m acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government,” he continued, sounding out of breath. “Anything I did should be praised.”- Rudy, today


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and he's trying to win in the court of public opinion.


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
the key thing with Mueller for Trump was to say that you hav to prove criminally


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then removing the capability of Mueller to prove it was criminal.


[26-Sep-19 10:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/airline-water-study-wellness-trnd/index.html

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Water quality: You may want to skip the coffee on these two airlines
The Airline Water Study ranks major and regional airlines according to the quality of their water.
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[26-Sep-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The tactic is to say that even if it's bad, it's not actionable, that you NEED something that'd land you in jail to be any sort of problem.


[26-Sep-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same reason people get so retarded about Epstein


[26-Sep-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whether something is explicitly illegal or not carries a lot of weight with fukking retards who don't understand what's going on.


[26-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, Its


[26-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
when the law gets changed


[26-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
people *change their opinions to match it* to a large degree.


[26-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only argument I've seen from the other side is "oh he just heard this second hand"


[26-Sep-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
We live in a society where people will say fukking 16-year-olds in one state is fine and in another state is abhorrent.


[26-Sep-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
On-the-fly morality switching.


[26-Sep-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giuliani knows how to exploit that.


[26-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think even the GOP isn't falling for it


[26-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[26-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just a bit too much.


[26-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my state's senators did the silent treatment/"I need to look more" and the other has been silent other than talking about Facebook being bad


[26-Sep-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying not to get burned when enuff comes out later to show them it's a serious issue


[26-Sep-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
if they cry just smoke too much, it'll burn them when the fire is exposed.


[26-Sep-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is weird knowing one of my state's senators was a constitutional lawyer who taught classes in it


[26-Sep-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how could anyone in his classes have possibly gotten a good education


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
>law school


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
>good education


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
most of law school is people learning how to game a rigged system


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
like 90% of what it's actually trying to do is to get you so you can get a criminal to go free


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
or an innocent man to go to jail


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's once your in practice, law school is "here's how to pass the bar exam"


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[26-Sep-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't learn how to actually be a lawyer, really


[26-Sep-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about how to win, not what's correct.


[26-Sep-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1176562462923141120

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[26-Sep-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-66/


[26-Sep-19 10:15 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Losing lawyers don’t get picked to be lawyers


[26-Sep-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theonion.com/law-school-applications-increase-upon-realization-that-1828464779

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[26-Sep-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and Happy Ecuadorian Flag Day


[26-Sep-19 10:24 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
From what I understand from the whistleblower complaint is that a non-WH official thinks he knows what’s going on in the Oval Office based off what a few WH officials said?


[26-Sep-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Sep-19 10:26 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Is there a reason he did not report any of their names so we could confirm what they said?


[26-Sep-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
that could blow his cover


[26-Sep-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
why does it matter


[26-Sep-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump and Giuliani already corroborated everything in the report


[26-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that tears holes in the hearsay thing


[26-Sep-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It matches up


[26-Sep-19 10:30 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Why was he confused about Crowdstrike?


[26-Sep-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
what?


[26-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
The president never associated the DNC servers with Ukraine


[26-Sep-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
what?


[26-Sep-19 10:36 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
He merely asked Ukraine to investigate what happened with the 2016 election


[26-Sep-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
what?


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun fact


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
And Ukraine’s leader was never “pressured” to do anything for Trump. Trump merely asked him


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the top commenters on The Hill has a Starlight Glimmer avatar


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
link pls


[26-Sep-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Pressured" by holding back aid and refusing to let Pence go to the inauguration


[26-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://disqus.com/by/chopperstophat/

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[26-Sep-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
According to the report, Zelenskyy was told Trump would refuse military aid to Ukraine if they did not investigate Biden


[26-Sep-19 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ahahaha


[26-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it was all about Biden, that was the point of the call


[26-Sep-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.scribd.com/embeds/427562501/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&access_key=key-Rn6GmSwWEucpWPwKTICf&show_recommendations=true

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[26-Sep-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
here is the actual pdf document of the report


[26-Sep-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
the corroborating evidence is on Trump's twitter and Giuliani's interviews


[26-Sep-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
furthermore, the White House document released yesterday that is a recollection of the phone call also confirms that yes


[26-Sep-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
it really is exactly what you think it is


[26-Sep-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
other officials also realized how bad the optics of this were, and moved the official correspondence to a private server.


[26-Sep-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
:ponythinking:


[26-Sep-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-whistleblower-ukraine-call-records-foreign-officials-separate-computer-system-a9120961.html>


[26-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's almost as bad


[26-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/25/764453663/pentagon-letter-undercuts-trump-assertion-on-delaying-aid-to-ukraine-over-corrup

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Pentagon Letter Undercuts Trump Assertion On Delaying Aid To Ukrai...
A letter sent to four congressional committees in May and obtained by NPR says officials have "certified that the Government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions" to address corruption.
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[26-Sep-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah there's also that...


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:ponythinking: There’s a common theme with the complaint and the memo of that transcript. Trump wanted to make sure Ukraine was dealing with their corruption and Trump was concerned that Biden was corrupt as well. The Obama administration was anything but perfect so I can see why he would be concerned, not to mention Trump probably still thinks Obama was tapping into his lines at Trump Tower


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
what the hell does that have to do with this


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whataboutism


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the pentagon memo completely undercuts trump's claim it was about corruption


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it isn't about corruption


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You say "yeah well the other guy was maybe not squeaky clean either so we can do whatever we want against him"


[26-Sep-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
he's trying to get zelenskyy to investigate biden


[26-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any genuine concerns are kind of out the window when you are coercing a foreign gov't.


[26-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You think the last guy was corrupt, because of some evidence? Okay, tell the justice dept. to look into it.


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not threaten them if they refuse saying the evidence is too little.


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not coerce them.


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And whatever the fukk you do, don't go to a foreign power with your personal lawyer instead.


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
How was there any proof of threatening the Ukraine?


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The withholding of the shipment


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
timed with the call


[26-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ukraine also said they believed there was such a threat


[26-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine Ukraine believed that for good reason, and was not just imagining things.


[26-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Who are you referring to when you mention “Ukraine?” I assume you mention their government? Is there an article that confirms this?


[26-Sep-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and gonna take a bit, hard to separate articles on the different parts of the subject.


[26-Sep-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ukrainians-understood-biden-probe-condition-trump-zelenskiy-phone/story?id=65863043

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Biden probe was condition for Trump-Zelenskiy talks, says former U...
Ukrainians understood the Biden probe was condition for Trump-Zelenskiy contacts, according to a former adviser to the Ukrainian president.
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[26-Sep-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems their official line tho is to remain ambiguous on it https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-ukrainian-foreign-minister-says-he-doesnt-frank-camp

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In a recent interview with Hromadske, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko denied that President Trump attempted to pressure the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, into investigating former Vice President and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden (emph...
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[26-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ukraine's official position seems to be that they wouldn't take a demand like that, being independent.


[26-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So naturally, the one guy who is saying otherwise is the anti-corruption guy who previously helped show shady Trump-Ukraine shit was going on.


[26-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, don't call it a "transcript"


[26-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a memorandum that doesn't call itself a transcript, of a **30-minute conversation** in five pages.


[26-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least, large portions were intentionally cut out.


[26-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The REAL transcript is allegedly lokked in a digital vault that even most national security people don't hav acess to, as is allegedly common practice for Trump with stuff that could hurt him politically


[26-Sep-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of the whistleblower complaint; that Trump is improperly sealing away documents showing he has committed crimes away from oversight, not for national security reasons.


[26-Sep-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even with all that


[26-Sep-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
what we actually got, whether you want to believe it or not, **is incriminating**


[26-Sep-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It describes the President, shortly after withholding aid without an explained reason, emphasizing that the foreign gov't should investigate Trump's main political enemy.


[26-Sep-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And telling them that some of the communication will be handled by his personal attorney.


[26-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be enuff under normal conditions to impeach over, by itself.


[26-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, if Obama had called up Germany's PM to talk about investigating Dick Cheney right after withholding approval of a deal with them


[26-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
would you be saying Obama did nothing wrong?


[26-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Obama had asked "for a favor...you know, Cheney..."


[26-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in the next Democratic administration that comes along, if like, President Warren calls up Mexico's President to ask for a favor of going after Pence on some corruption, would that be fine?


[26-Sep-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
*While Pence is running for President*


[26-Sep-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right after Mexico had been for some mysterious reason denied a large aid pakkage.


[26-Sep-19 11:24 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
I’m going to take Trump and Zelensiky’s word on this incident. While I do believe that the whistleblower has legitimate concerns about the call; I think additional information needs to come out. Trump should probably bring this transcript out from the computer that it is being stored on


[26-Sep-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Their word is incriminating...


[26-Sep-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
an **Official White House statement** made yesterday implicates the president in a crime


[26-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They tried to hide the transcript.


[26-Sep-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770

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Read the Trump-Ukraine phone call readout
Read the full transcript.
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[26-Sep-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's been out for like, a whole fucking day. It's not a waiting secret


[26-Sep-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
The headline is "read the transcript"


[26-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
@AaronMk that's not a transcript


[26-Sep-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, it's there


[26-Sep-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a paraphrased, condensed summary.


[26-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whistleblower complaint alleges the original transcript is lokked away


[26-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is a memorandum that appears to be created afterwards based on what Trump claims was said.


[26-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has numerous typos and other errors.


[26-Sep-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even the name of the Ukrainian President is misspelled.


[26-Sep-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and sounds like Trump wrote it himself in crayon


[26-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, much of "Zelenskyy"'s dialog looks like Trump wrote it.


[26-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a fiction, and the story it tells is still incriminating.


[26-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
How much it omits or changes is unknown, but that call was, according to it, 30 minutes long.


[26-Sep-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So unless Trump and Zelensky were talking real slowly


[26-Sep-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot is left out.


[26-Sep-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, there are ellipses in parts of Trump's talking


[26-Sep-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So likely even after he told them what was in the call, they then cut stuff out.


[26-Sep-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yet, still bad when combined with the complaint


[26-Sep-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe the complaint alone wouldn't be enough


[26-Sep-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But together it is awful for Trump


[26-Sep-19 11:39 PM] ononim#8141
Honestly


[26-Sep-19 11:39 PM] ononim#8141
who the fuck cares


[26-Sep-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you're really going to doubt the legitemacy of the paper provided based on misspellings, then I think it's worth pointing you towards original CIA documents. They fuck shit up a lot too.


[26-Sep-19 11:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
And according to one source, the Ukrainian president is that much of a bitch


[26-Sep-19 11:40 PM] ononim#8141
Trump: *does concetration camps*
Dems:I sleep
Trump: *tries to dig up dirt against Biden*
Dems: **Real Shit?**


[26-Sep-19 11:40 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
lmao


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
RL political mechanisms are not actually some formal, highly trained procedure. That's just Hollywood. The White House and Congress is just a frat house for fucking old white men


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
fucking white males


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
smh


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is it is so terribly bad, it indicates there were not multiple people involved in the process.


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
old white geezers


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
not white men


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Mikey#7286
old white men


[26-Sep-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a document with no proofreading that had spacing added before printing to make room for some stuff added after printing before scanning.


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
oh no


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
that's the worst possible white man


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
like mitch who hang onto outdated ideals


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
This strongly indicates it has a single author who took the original transcript all the way to what we got.


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know why you're bitching. The release includes a third party, the WH situation room.


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
a white male with alzheimer's


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
white men are fine


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Mikey#7286
however old white men are not


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] ononim#8141
@Orion Starshade what are you even on about


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
A single author is much, much easier to coerce into altering things.


[26-Sep-19 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
At this point, Trump has made, what? Ten-thousand Holy Grails for you libs by existing?


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then it was put together with talking points by the White House


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
old white boomers are why our country is shit


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Shit'd be so much simpler if you dropped the pretenses and just hated everyone on principle. :^)


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
🍿 We'll see what happens with this impeachment


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
Can y'all please not just insult each other?


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
It's good television


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk this is for you too


[26-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Mikey#7286
nothing's going to happen


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mikey, we're too late in for that


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
30 Republicans said they'd impeach *right now* if the vote were secret.


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something has the GOP really spooked about this.


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Mikey#7286
you do know impeachment takes a long time right?


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, I do


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Mikey#7286
by the time it got through he might be out of office


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
But in that time, it's not going to get better for Trump


[26-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
nothing could come out at this point to exonerate him.


[26-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will only get worse


[26-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
which means the number of senators willing to impeach when the vote comes will increase


[26-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
November 2020 is a long ways away.


[26-Sep-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment may take months, but not years.


[26-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, what's going on is Republicans know that if they refuse to impeach on this blatant shit, they'll lose come November 2020


[26-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can't stall the whole year to avoid that.


[26-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's very likely they're fearing the timing on this one cause of the Epstein stuff being fresh


[26-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was an allegation, which went away right before the election, that Trump raped a 13-year-old at one of Epstein's parties


[26-Sep-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, the Epstein plea deal was still secret, and word on the street was he was a pedo, but nobody knew just how bad it was.


[26-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider what happens if the Epstein investigation so much as turns up that Trump was at that party, @Mikey


[26-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be simultaneously fighting career civil servants on corruption, and MeToo on child rape.


[26-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They could've taken on either one and got by.


[26-Sep-19 11:48 PM] ononim#8141
Don't we pretty much known what a lot of people were there? Including a British prince


[26-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fighting both is too much.


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prince Andrew was at multiple places tied to Epstein


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
I am having trouble imaginging how trump could even extract a penis far enough from his fat rolls to get it into a 13 year old


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
not that particular party, I don't think.


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] obviously he rubs his fat rolls on her butt and it transfers the feeling to his penis.


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Lol


[26-Sep-19 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they call it a butter job


[26-Sep-19 11:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🤢


[26-Sep-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Loli Lardin'

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[26-Sep-19 11:50 PM] Mikey#7286
:twicrazy:


[26-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
re voh loo shun

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[26-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Mikey#7286
:guillotine:


[26-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
not a capital punishment to fuck children in 44 states


[26-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:gallus:


[26-Sep-19 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Found the libertarian


[26-Sep-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Who wants to bet that Trump will further fuck this up with a third scandal that makes things far worse for the GOP?


[26-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Mikey#7286
fucking kids is pretty fucking sick


[26-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Mikey#7286
yo


[26-Sep-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) you mean the original Stupid Watergate?


[26-Sep-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
The Ukraine deal is _at least_ the third scandal


[26-Sep-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true...


[26-Sep-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a 4th scandal then


[26-Sep-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will go down in history as *stupidgate*


[26-Sep-19 11:54 PM] Mikey#7286
maybe not capital for fucking kids but you definitely deserve to rot in prison for life


[26-Sep-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's probably done enough illegal shit to land hoim in prison for a good 4 lifetimes by now countign stuff from before he ever became president


[26-Sep-19 11:55 PM] Mikey#7286
i've heard other people in prison (robbers, petty thugs, murderers etc) beat the shit out of child molesters and stuff btw


[26-Sep-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh yeah and Trump is insinuating we should use the death penalty to deal with the whistleblower, and there's an audio recording of him saying this


[26-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Mikey#7286
lol how about no


[26-Sep-19 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
remember how there was a whole thing about how the whistleblower tried to make *sure* that he/she would be protected by going through the legal channels here?


[26-Sep-19 11:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is de facto witness intimidation


[26-Sep-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Of course he;s the snitches get ditches type


[26-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Mikey#7286
didn't trump say Edward Snowden should be exonerated


[26-Sep-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he said that and then threw him under a bus when he became inconvenient for trump


[26-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[26-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
of course he did


[26-Sep-19 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and the whole thing about the memorandum releasing things that "Zelenskyy" said just might violate Ukraine's constitution because he didn't get his permission to release what he'd said


[26-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Mikey#7286
even though Snowden basically said the NSA is spying on us


[26-Sep-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
And then snowden leaked some of Trumps wrongdoings and Trump got angry


[26-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Mikey#7286
trump probably thinks the american people deserve to be spied on


[26-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Mikey#7286
after all


[26-Sep-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the topic of the typos, one thing I was watching for in the released "transcript" would be typos of the sort you wouldn't expect from a stenographer transcribing the conversation. And not only do we see those, we also see what appears to be OCR errors


[27-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Mikey#7286
he's a corrupt businessman who got his wealth illegally, and his dad


[27-Sep-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this memorandum might as well have glitter glue on it


[27-Sep-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump spent a year once trying to convince a court to steam roll an elderly ladies house that was next to one of his hotels, so he could have more parkinglot space


[27-Sep-19 12:01 AM] Mikey#7286
and also made the whole Trump U Fraud


[27-Sep-19 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
screwed over hundreds of employees with his failed casinos and other businesses


[27-Sep-19 12:02 AM] Mikey#7286
also how the fuck do you fail at making a casino successful


[27-Sep-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bribed city officials to buy out poor neighborhoods, so he could buy them from the city, and build luxury appartments


[27-Sep-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in several cities i beleive


[27-Sep-19 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even *The Apprentice* was a catastrophe


[27-Sep-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He rose on the laurals of daddies success and then when his father died he used percussive maintance in an attempt to keep the laurals flying


[27-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as a hypothetical


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Mikey#7286
his daddy also money laundered


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
imagine what would happen if Republicans dragged their feet a ton


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the middle of mulling impeachment


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
New York State put out an arrest warrant for Trump


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
after finding evidence of him raping children.


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And imagine further, that Republicans continued to drag their feet.


[27-Sep-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then the election rolls around


[27-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans: "Democrats want GAYS to exist!"


[27-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats: "Republicans literally rape children, and we hav mountains of proof"


[27-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the timiline McConnell is sweating over.


[27-Sep-19 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Republicans: fake news, never happened


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Bam


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Instant defense


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If things fall apart according to a 4d chess plan, it should happen sometime around march/april


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
the dems want to brainwash people into being gay


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind a Republican *lost Alabama* over just cheating on his wife with dating high school teens.


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Alex Jones told me so!


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's when it's too late to get anyone else in the primaries to replace Trump


[27-Sep-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
He only barely lost it


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is insane to think about


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine how many Republican senators would lose if their official position was "this child rapist should stay in office"


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Democrats also want to throw children covered in velcro at homeless people, Alex Jones never lies!


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
They're not going to base their position around that


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
MeToo would be on fire.


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
They're going to say it's fake news and the prosecution is a conspiracy


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but that's how people'll understand it as.


[27-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The average guy on the street will say "yeah Trump did rape those kids, but..."


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the way Trump's base operates, the way they've held on


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Fox News would like a word with you


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
is always that "but"


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't really *care* if it's true


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want minorities hurt


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
gays put in jail


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
etc.


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the problem is, admitting Trump's corrupt in and of itself doesn't break things


[27-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
admitting he's really corrupt, that strains things


[27-Sep-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump did rape thos kids but the democrats, liberated all over the floor, so Trump isnlt so bad I guess"


[27-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the moment you start going into "well what he did should get him thrown in jail for sure, but..."


[27-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's too much


[27-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It givs Dems a gigantic pile of ammo


[27-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll run campaign ads based on comparing Trump to Roy Moore, and saying he's worse


[27-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Epstein's stuff was still under wraps, we could well be seeing this just blow over.


[27-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the Epstein stuff creamed itself all over the place


[27-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and just as it was starting to be cleaned up, this happens


[27-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans now face the prospects of Independent voters who believe that children will be raped by Republicans and shot by alt right nutjobs


[27-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what it's taken.


[27-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giant pileup that makes Republicans look as amoral as they are.


[27-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way it could get worse is if Trump is *actually* implicated in the Epstein probe.


[27-Sep-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/48ae1303568b4b21813adb3bd6d592e5

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[27-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Some of the new entries started as trolling campaigns [...]


[27-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"YEAH GUYS THIS WAS BAIT AND WE TOOK IT HARD"


[27-Sep-19 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wtf that sounds stupid


[27-Sep-19 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you don't gather knowlege on how the alt-right mentality works by just observing them tbf


[27-Sep-19 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you also have to interact with them sometimes, even if it induces you to vomit


[27-Sep-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SPLC, ADL should really make more deals with leftwitter tbh


[27-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Started as irony, became genuine


[27-Sep-19 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
whatever you do in life, don't be the ADL


[27-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/markhumphries/status/1177178666402365440

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[27-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, considering that the official transcript is locked away where no one can see them in what seems to be a private server that only trump has access to, there's no way to corroborate the official transcript with the released one


[27-Sep-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
since that is what the whistleblower complaint is about


[27-Sep-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
though it may not actually be a private server, but a super ultra beyond top-secret secure server that is only meant to be used for information that could heavily damage the US, not as the president's incriminating evidence lockbox


[27-Sep-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
either way, the similarity to "but her emails" is uncanny


[27-Sep-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
buttery males


[27-Sep-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He engaged in a cover-up


[27-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the reason why the clinton emails thing wasn't a cover-up was because the emails on the server were deleted before the subpoena


[27-Sep-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
but the violation was having the emails on the private server to begin with


[27-Sep-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well he's doing it here so


[27-Sep-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
is it actually a private server though?


[27-Sep-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
the whistleblower complaint just says that a bunch of normally accessible records are being put out of reach for no reason beyond trump thinking of them as incriminating


[27-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
I'm just saying that in context, it seems similar to the clinton emails thing


[27-Sep-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
but the president likely has access to legal options for doing the same thing


[27-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's just not meant to be used in the way that trump is using it


[27-Sep-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
which seems to be the general motif of his presidency


[27-Sep-19 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf


[27-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.kff.org/health-costs/press-release/benchmark-employer-survey-finds-average-family-premiums-now-top-20000/

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Annual family premiums for employer-sponsored health insurance rose 5% to average $20,576 this year, according to the 2019 benchmark KFF Employer Health Benefits Survey released today. Workers’ wag…
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[27-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
> On average, workers this year are contributing $6,015 toward the cost of family coverage, with employers paying the rest.


[27-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Despite the nation’s strong economy and low unemployment, what employers and workers pay toward premiums continues to rise more quickly than workers’ wages and inflation over time. Since 2009, average family premiums have increased 54% and workers’ contribution have increased 71%, several times more quickly than wages (26%) and inflation (20%).


[27-Sep-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
when the work is happening, but the workers aren't being compensated


[27-Sep-19 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Sep-19 03:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So it isn't just that they moved Trump's communications to a different server. It's that the server is supposed to be for codename-level state secrets. Which the conversation he so willingly divulged most of clearly isn't. Unless it *is,* in which case congress definitely needs to know. And they can find out. 'Cause no matter how classified something is, the gang of 8 has the power to see it. Anyone that says otherwise is obstructing.


[27-Sep-19 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now keep in mind that the whistleblower complaint alleges that the people in the situation room listening in definitely weren't expecting a state-secrets level conversation, or even one in which Trump blatantly asks for quid pro quo


[27-Sep-19 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for the OLC statement on why that complaint wasn't passed on straight to Schiff, they claim that because the alleged criminal activity is (by some arbitrary doublethink logic) outside the wheelhouse of the person who reported it, it can't be "urgent." And therefore has to go through the DOJ. Headed by Barr, one of the people named in the complaint


[27-Sep-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
At some point, fukking with whistleblowing needs to be a felony people are gone after for.


[27-Sep-19 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1177182149050609664

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[27-Sep-19 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Trying to get a foreign prosecutor to look into your political rival? It's definitely up there


[27-Sep-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I like how Trump just assumes we know what he's talking about, like he never really developed theory of mind


[27-Sep-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if I cover my eyes do I disappear for him


[27-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Treascair#7785
"fucking with whistleblowing needs to be a felony people are gone after for."

They are, Nebbie.  It's just rare as hell, but there ARE statutes for it.  Namely the Whistleblower Protection act of 1989.  Specifically, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9)


[27-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Treascair#7785
... I've been listening to legal podcasts, it's been absolutely fascinating.


[27-Sep-19 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey, you could get impeached for that!™


[27-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh there are *laws*, yes


[27-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they aren't enforced.


[27-Sep-19 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's be honest if someone who was recently employed in the intelligence community suddenly turns up with a double-tap suicide I think there'd be at least a little "too little, too late" but they'd definitely get enforced


[27-Sep-19 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Rep. Devin Nunes left everyone baffled by claiming Democrats wante...
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[27-Sep-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao wut


[27-Sep-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody wants that


[27-Sep-19 04:12 AM] Treascair#7785
... can someone just dopeslap Nunes with a baseball bat?


[27-Sep-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
besides


[27-Sep-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Sep-19 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[27-Sep-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nunes got punk'd hard apparently


[27-Sep-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nunes is trying really hard to be an eventual presidential/vice presidential nominee


[27-Sep-19 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm readign the "transcript" properly now and everything abotu this looks liek Trump wrote zelenskyy's lines himself right down to trumpian speaking mannerisms


[27-Sep-19 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially since his name isn't spelled with two Y's


[27-Sep-19 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is fanfic quality writing... "zelenskyy" sucks up to Trump liek a simpering puppy intern


[27-Sep-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Romanization of a cyrillic name isn't it?


[27-Sep-19 06:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's possible, though given this entire thing reads liek bad fanfic fantasy from Trumps brainscape I'm not sure that's intentional


[27-Sep-19 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One plausible explanation for the typos to have existed in the original unedited transcript without foul play is that it's the work of a staffer in the situation room who was *completely* not expecting to hear the conversation that played out


[27-Sep-19 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that only works if the transcription weren't made in realtime by a stenographer


[27-Sep-19 06:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's possible


[27-Sep-19 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, given the consistency of the memorandum, it's much more likely that it was retyped. In either case, whoever put that memorandum together *had* to know that the full unredacted transcript was on the confidential server


[27-Sep-19 07:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUo0XdVplOE

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KUo0XdVplOE/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Sep-19 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yeah, that;s been republicans for the last 3 years because they want to post horrible shit without consequence


[27-Sep-19 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>*Republican politician shit posts nazi memes on twitter expecting it to fly*
>*Twitter bans republcan politician because nazi meme violates ToS*

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[27-Sep-19 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If it werent for Trump being president, his twitter might have been shut down months ago for going too far


[27-Sep-19 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently sean hannity and the like are going with the "hearsay" argument with the whistleblower complaint


[27-Sep-19 08:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's an m.night shyamalan plot twist right there


[27-Sep-19 08:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most republicans that arent politicians that i;ve seen are going with the hearsay arguement and saying the transcript clears him of any crimes


[27-Sep-19 08:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the politicians arent doing that because enough shit has stacked on them to create a major problem if they try to sweep this under the rug as well


[27-Sep-19 08:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
otherwise they;d be doing exactly that


[27-Sep-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/epa-tells-california-it-is-failing-to-meet-its-obligations-to-stem-water-pollution/2019/09/26/b3ffca1e-dfac-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html


[27-Sep-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[27-Sep-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
> The Trump administration accused the state of California Thursday of “failing to meet its obligations” to protect the environment, claiming that a growing homeless population threatens the state’s water quality.


[27-Sep-19 08:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[27-Sep-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/trump-compares-ukraine-whistleblower-source-to-spy.html

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Trump claims whistleblower source committed 'treason,' suggests ha...
A complaint alleges that President Donald Trump asked Ukraine to investigate a political opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, and that White House officials covered up evidence of that effort.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106150992-1569519376886rtx74ql4.jpg?v=1569523821


[27-Sep-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump on Thursday raged about a whistleblower’s bombshell complaint at a fundraising event, comparing its sources to spies and suggesting they committed “treason,” several reports said.


[27-Sep-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
> “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now,” Trump said, according to the LA Times.


[27-Sep-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
trump is basically threatening to torture a US official to death


[27-Sep-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
for pointing out that what trump's doing is incredibly subversive and very illegal


[27-Sep-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic fascism.


[27-Sep-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
rofl https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/27/reporter-who-outed-racist-tweets-by-viral-fundraiser-leaves-des-moines-register-after-his-own-offensive-posts-surface/


[27-Sep-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
> When a Des Moines Register reporter on Tuesday helped expose racist tweets posted years ago by a local man who used his viral Internet fame to raise millions for a children’s hospital, it inspired a vicious backlash against “cancel culture” — and the reporter himself, who critics soon found had his own history of offensive posts.


[27-Sep-19 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
> The Register announced late Thursday that the reporter, Aaron Calvin, no longer works for the newspaper. The move comes as the Register has hired extra security under a deluge of threats from people furious about its decision to pursue the story.


[27-Sep-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
so that asshole reporter to dug into some dude who raised beer money to donate to a hospital's past tweets in order to attack him got fired


[27-Sep-19 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
because people dug into his past and found his racist tweets


[27-Sep-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
what is it with what seems like everyone on the internet having racist tweets from years/decades ago though


[27-Sep-19 08:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats why you shouldnt use twitter


[27-Sep-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
seems like every time there's a new celebrity/politician/whatever, there's racist/sexist stuff you can dig up about them on twitter


[27-Sep-19 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
is it seriously that hard to not be racist?


[27-Sep-19 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
it reminds me of when @WiFiWitch dug into my comments to try and find something cringy but couldn't after I said that I've never written a comment years ago that I wouldn't agree with today


[27-Sep-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
it was in a conversation on IRC, logs are on my old computer though I think


[27-Sep-19 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
multiple people were saying that they had comments from years ago on derpi that they found cringy that day


[27-Sep-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
and I made the claim that I didn't have a single comment that I'd find cringy today, so LB went digging and ended up giving up because she couldn't find anything either


[27-Sep-19 08:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i probably have some cringe in my past but probably nothing racist


[27-Sep-19 08:49 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
i didn't know pings could make me see channels i muted lmao


[27-Sep-19 08:50 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
but yeah cancel culture is cringe


[27-Sep-19 08:50 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
i saw people dig up things a singer i like had said _nine years ago_ that were dumb and these people didn't even care about him so why did they do that


[27-Sep-19 08:50 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
they forced him to apologize even tho they didn't even care


[27-Sep-19 08:50 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
tweets*


[27-Sep-19 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it makes them feel better about their own misdeeds to drag someone else to their level


[27-Sep-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
the reporter was likely doing it for a sensational story or whatever


[27-Sep-19 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
it helps advance their career


[27-Sep-19 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also ratings


[27-Sep-19 08:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ratings are a powerful motivator


[27-Sep-19 08:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an annoyingly powerful motivator that dictates everything now


[27-Sep-19 08:53 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
anyway back to mute, @ me if you want me to see bye


[27-Sep-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I thought someone linked an article earlier about how that dude who raised the money had racist tweets from 9 years ago


[27-Sep-19 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
which is why I just linked that article with minimal context


[27-Sep-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, I saw it in an imgur post


[27-Sep-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/y2ndYLs

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Newspaper tried to tarnish a man's reputation who has raised over 1 million dollars for a children's hospital over tweets he made 8 years ago.
https://i.imgur.com/9sO33XUh.jpg


[27-Sep-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
> This just in: Microsoft releases Xbox live transcripts. Entire male population from 2000-2019 deemed unemployable.


[27-Sep-19 10:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What?


[27-Sep-19 10:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Just talk to anyone on Xbox live playing call of duty.


[27-Sep-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's a joke about how a lot of kids said a lot of racist/sexist shit when they were kids on xbox live


[27-Sep-19 10:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Noob tubes are fucking gay you faggot.


[27-Sep-19 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_identity#Identities

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Sexual identity
Sexual identity is how one thinks of oneself in terms of to whom one is romantically or sexually attracted. Sexual identity may also refer to sexual orientation identity, which is when people identify or dis-identify with a sexual orientation or choose not to identify with a ...


[27-Sep-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
> Sapiosexuality describes attraction to the intelligence of another person. The word sapio means, "I discern or understand", in Latin. Sapiosexual-identifying individuals can also be gay, straight, or bisexual. It is not a sexual orientation. It first gained mainstream attention in 2014 when dating website OkCupid added it as one of several new sexual orientation and gender identity options.
> 
> About 0.5% of OkCupid users identify as sapiosexual, and it is most common among those ages 31-40. Women are more likely to identify as sapiosexual than men. Several commentators have stated that sapiosexuality is "elitist," "discriminatory," and "pretentious."


[27-Sep-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[27-Sep-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
how the fuck is attraction to the intelligence of another person "elitist", "discriminatory," and "pretentious"???????????


[27-Sep-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
what is wrong with SJWs


[27-Sep-19 10:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:nerdmoon:


[27-Sep-19 10:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's like they see attraction to intelligence as a direct threat to their existence


[27-Sep-19 10:33 AM] Crow#5457
maybe because they're so fucking stupid


[27-Sep-19 10:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Think of the average SJW and it is easy to see they are not getting any from sapios.


[27-Sep-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/nyregion/the-hottest-body-part-for-a-sapiosexual-its-the-brain.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/nyregion/the-hottest-body-part-for-a-sapiosexual-its-the-brain.html
The Hottest Body Part? For a Sapiosexual, It’s the Brain
In a society obsessed with physical appearance, sexual attraction for some people is based on intellect, and not necessarily on looks.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/06/03/nyregion/03SAPIO1/00SAPIO1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Sep-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
> With increased visibility has come a backlash: Some say declaring a sexual preference based on intelligence is pretentious, elitist or insulting to people with disabilities.


[27-Sep-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Some people find the term offensive. “‘Sapiosexual’ seems to circulate primarily as a layer of pretension on top of a more traditional sexual identity,” Samantha Allen wrote at The Daily Beast in 2015. She also noted that criticisms of the term are common on Tumblr, which is known for in-depth discussions of sexuality.
> 
> Users of the site have argued that the term promotes a single, fixed idea of intelligence, and that it encourages discrimination against people who have intellectual disabilities or autism spectrum disorders or who can’t afford higher education.


[27-Sep-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
> “What I connect most with and value most as a sapiosexual is emotional intelligence and comedic intelligence,” said Ms. Sheffield, who lives in Manhattan. “You just have to have a sense of humor. If you don’t, I’ll be as attracted to you as I am to a Border collie.”


[27-Sep-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
> “You just have to have a sense of humor. If you don’t, I’ll be as attracted to you as I am to a Border collie.”


[27-Sep-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
um


[27-Sep-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
@Raptorshy


[27-Sep-19 10:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:doggo:


[27-Sep-19 02:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
<https://apnews.com/cd2d1f8ba4cb4caeaba690ff87cca225> Huh well I guess I know now why a whole bunch of conversations got top-tier classification whether they needed it or not. This also explains the Republican position on the scandal. Just one problem: The guy saying all this is literally a spokesman for the Kremlin


[27-Sep-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c5c9beca1b3543128b92d10313287863

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Toronto van attack suspect said he 'accomplished my mission'
TORONTO (AP) — A newly released video shows a man who allegedly used a van to kill 10 pedestrians in Toronto telling police that belonged to an online community of sexually frustrated men who plot...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/c3d5123c0b964996915da457ea6eb5c0/1080.jpeg


[27-Sep-19 02:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:pepoClown:


[27-Sep-19 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-captives-many-boys-chains-111117090.html

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Hundreds of captives, many boys in chains, freed in Nigeria
More than 300 captives, most of them children and many in chains, have been rescued from a building in the northern Nigerian city of Kaduna, a police spokesman said on Friday.  All the children seen by a Reuters reporter at the scene were boys aged from around five to their l...
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/BCn1Tmb94hYda_8xIOsVvw--~B/aD0yMjU7dz00NTA7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https:/media.zenfs.com/en-US/reuters.com/850428deea4f21f0e1277dd24126a6e2


[27-Sep-19 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`All the children seen by a Reuters reporter at the scene were boys aged from around five to their late teens. Some had their ankles manacled together and others were chained by their legs to large metal hubcaps.

Police said the building housed an Islamic school and that seven people had been arrested in the raid on Thursday. It was not clear how long the children had been held there.

"The state government is currently providing food to the children who are between the ages of five and above," said Yakubu Sabo, the Kaduna police spokesman.

"We have identified two of the children to have come from Burkina Faso, while most of them were brought by their parents from across mostly northern Nigerian states," he added.

He said those arrested were teachers at the school.

Reports carried by local media said the captives had been tortured, starved and sexually abused. Reuters was not immediately able to confirm those reports, though sores that appeared consistent with injuries inflicted by a whip were visible on one boy's back.`


[27-Sep-19 02:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What the fuck. That's not a school. That is a torture camp.


[27-Sep-19 02:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
typical shithole school


[27-Sep-19 02:47 PM] byte[]#2610
typical?


[27-Sep-19 02:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup


[27-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/463346-russia-says-it-hopes-us-wouldnt-release-trump-putin-calls#

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Russia says it hopes US wouldn't release Trump-Putin calls
A spokesperson for the Kremlin expressed concern that the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/putintrump.jpg


[27-Sep-19 02:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like we give a fuck what dictators think of us.


[27-Sep-19 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Dictator*


[27-Sep-19 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well trump might end up dead in a ditch somewhere but that's a small price to pay


[27-Sep-19 03:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People talking about Warren conspiracy theories already


[27-Sep-19 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You know those dirty communist democrats always got conspiracies their guilty of


[27-Sep-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's what my masters over at fex nows tell me to beleive!


[27-Sep-19 03:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess the goal is to have it be Warren vs Pence?


[27-Sep-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the upcoming election?


[27-Sep-19 03:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[27-Sep-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure how that would work since pence hasn't put in a running bid


[27-Sep-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't think Pence automatically gets to run for president if Trump is out of the picture, There;s official paperwork you have to fill out right?


[27-Sep-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Not to mention if pence did put in a running bid, Trump would have an aneurysm and try to immediatley fire him for "treason against the god king"


[27-Sep-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also a person against greta thunberg made this...

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[27-Sep-19 03:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[27-Sep-19 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That seems reportable


[27-Sep-19 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Advocating for sexually assaulting a politician and a child


[27-Sep-19 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their name tho


[27-Sep-19 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
snrk


[27-Sep-19 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it a joke because of that or


[27-Sep-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope arrests are made on this shit..


[27-Sep-19 04:08 PM] Raptorshy#6268
@Crow That braino has nothing on border collies. If I found me a nice fluffy large breed and I'd never leave the house.


[27-Sep-19 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-26/trump-at-private-breakfast-who-gave-the-whistle-blower-the-information-because-thats-almost-a-spy

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Listen: Audio of Trump discussing whistleblower at private event: ...
President Trump slammed the whistleblower who first warned that the president was trying to strong-arm a foreign leader for personal gain as "a spy," and suggested he or she had committed treason.
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[27-Sep-19 04:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Very cool, very normal


[27-Sep-19 04:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`“You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”`


[27-Sep-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
He said he wanted them killed


[27-Sep-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://time.com/5684482/trump-nobel-prize-un/

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President Trump Insists He Would Get a Nobel Prize, If 'They Gave ...
The President also criticized Obama receiving a Nobel Peace Prize "immediately"
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/gettyimages-1170542832.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[27-Sep-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
He means if they sold it


[27-Sep-19 04:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We have whistleblower laws so they don't get executed


[27-Sep-19 04:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When they're known he'll be calling for their head


[27-Sep-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-tells-mps-deliver-brexit-jo-cox-death-threats-2019-9

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Boris Johnson tells friends of murdered MP Jo Cox to back Brexit i...
Johnson triggered outrage after accusing his opponents of "surrender" and telling them to back Brexit in order to stop receiving death threats.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5d5cec94cd9784759067f3c3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Sep-19 05:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/prisoners-uighur-muslims-china-shackled-blindfolded-video

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Hundreds of shackled, blindfolded prisoners in China purportedly s...
Videos purportedly showing hundreds of prisoners in China with their heads shaved and their hands bound behind their back and blindfolds that were posted online earlier this week appears to be authentic.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/09/China-prisoners.jpg


[27-Sep-19 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure why anyone would ever want china influencing global culture in the way that it does


[27-Sep-19 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
apparently there's people who want china to succeed just to stick it to america, but that's the exact same sort of "own the libs" logic that's destroying the US


[27-Sep-19 06:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/09/21/damning-evidence-on-prince-andrew-could-be-in-russian-hands-mi6/

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https://nypost.com/2019/09/21/damning-evidence-on-prince-andrew-could-be-in-russian-hands-mi6/
Damning evidence on Prince Andrew could be in Russian hands: MI6
As if Prince Andrew’s embarrassing ties to a Jeffrey Epstein “sex slave” weren’t bad enough, British spymasters now worry Russia may have obtained scandal-related “kompromat” on the randy royal. In…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/prince-andrew-john-mark-dougan.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[27-Sep-19 06:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
AVE, DEATH TO ENGLAND


[27-Sep-19 06:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/21/us/autistic-student-desk-in-bathroom/index.html

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An autistic student needed a quiet place to work. His desk was put...
A school district in Washington state is facing criticism for putting an autistic student's desk in a bathroom stall after his mother said he needed a "quiet place" to do his best work.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190921182853-student-bathroom-stall-super-tease.jpg


[27-Sep-19 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49856788

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49856788
Ukraine ex-minister rejects Trump Biden claims
Pavlo Klimkin denies a Ukraine prosecutor was sacked over a probe into the ex-US vice-president's son.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07phk3y.jpg


[27-Sep-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
A quiet place, until it's taco wednesday.


[27-Sep-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-49843129/americans-react-to-trump-ukraine-call-memo

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https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-49843129/americans-react-to-trump-ukraine-call-memo
'Trump did nothing wrong' - Americans on Ukraine call
Pittsburgh residents give their response to Trump's phone call with Ukraine's president.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/D37A/production/_108983145_p07pf0q9.jpg


[27-Sep-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She... doesn't sound american


[27-Sep-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are they interviewing half those people in some sort of old-people temple?


[27-Sep-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wth is this


[27-Sep-19 07:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Selective interview


[27-Sep-19 07:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump is a racist. 
BBC 🔫 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49850738

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49850738
BBC urged to reconsider Munchetty decision
Dozens of broadcasters ask the BBC to reverse its ruling over Naga Munchetty's Donald Trump remarks.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/76AB/production/_108997303_nagasplit3v2getty.jpg


[27-Sep-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone else read Rudy's remarks about this all


[27-Sep-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how he believes he is a national hero


[27-Sep-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've read a few but not all of them


[27-Sep-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-whistleblower-hero-1461646

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Rudy Giuliani can't understand why he's not getting praise, says i...
"I'm not acting as a lawyer. I'm acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government," Giuliani told The Atlantic.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1531022/rudy-giuliani-united-nations-headquarters.jpg


[27-Sep-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like trump has rubbed off on him


[27-Sep-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-tells-fox-news-guest-you-dont-know-what-youre-talking-about-idiot-after-1461257

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Rudy Giuliani slams fellow Fox News guest as a "moron" and and "id...
The president's personal lawyer described his discussions with Ukraine, which he said came at the request of the State Department.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1529491/rudy-giuliani.jpg


[27-Sep-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I was wondering where all the guliani news was, apparently it was at newsweek


[27-Sep-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I should sue you for libel, because you irresponsibly said... you actually usually say incredibly stupid things...Shut up, shut up you don't know what you're talking about"


[27-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html

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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-white-house/index.html
First on CNN: White House says lawyers directed moving Ukraine tra...
The White House acknowledged Friday that administration officials directed a now-infamous Ukraine call transcript be filed in a highly classified system, confirming allegations contained in a whistleblower complaint that have roiled Washington.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190927004745-01-donald-trump-0926-super-tease.jpg


[27-Sep-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://qz.com/1717059/ukraines-president-is-being-dubbed-monica-zelensky-at-home/

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https://qz.com/1717059/ukraines-president-is-being-dubbed-monica-zelensky-at-home/
Ukraine’s president is being dubbed “Monica Zelensky” at home
The Ukrainian actor-turned-politician who won the presidency on an anti-corruption platform finds himself in the middle of an American corruption epic, just like a certain White House intern.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/glumchums.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[27-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice start to a comedian's presidency


[27-Sep-19 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably had it hard enough being taken seriously, and now this


[27-Sep-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All made possible due to Trump's idiocy


[27-Sep-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[27-Sep-19 10:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
this guy campaigned on not being corrupt like all the others.


[27-Sep-19 10:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:pokerface:


[27-Sep-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/popular-info-facebook-donald-trump-1460983

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https://www.newsweek.com/popular-info-facebook-donald-trump-1460983
Facebook removes Trump propaganda page after it was revealed it wa...
The "I Love America" page had more followers than major mainstream news outlets but was taken down by Facebook on Tuesday.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1529881/trump-rally.jpg


[27-Sep-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
I guess trump was told not to expect very much support from russia, so now he's going for other countries to produce propaganda for him


[27-Sep-19 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
what if that was his angle in north korea as well?


[27-Sep-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That was his only angle with north korea, it was all PR


[27-Sep-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trying to make peace with north korea makes him look good, and trying to make peace with america makes kim jong un look good, and that in turn booststheir support networks


[27-Sep-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and hero worship, Trump worships kim jong un like a hero


[27-Sep-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
no, I mean trying to strongarm north korea into making propaganda for him in 2020


[27-Sep-19 11:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are 2 glowing eyes on the right?


[27-Sep-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think those are street lights


[27-Sep-19 11:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Okay. Got creeped out at first.


[27-Sep-19 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump si really reaching to the creepy pasta voterbase now


[27-Sep-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for north korea propaganda strong arming, it's possible though I don't know how far north korean trump propaganda would reach outside the borders of north korea itself


[27-Sep-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
north korea has online troll and game gold farms


[27-Sep-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
huh, i thought that was only south korea


[27-Sep-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp fair enough


[27-Sep-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I could see Trmp backroom dealing with un for propaganda then


[27-Sep-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they put on a show of diplomacy, The deal goes that kim doesnt have to give up anything as long as he makes propoganda happen, and the public is none the wiser


[27-Sep-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-a-conservative-columnist-helped-push-a-flawed-ukraine-narrative/2019/09/26/1654026e-dee7-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html


[27-Sep-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this would be great if i could read wahsington post


[27-Sep-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mother fucking paywall


[27-Sep-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
tl;dr the main architect of the Biden conspiracy theory that is used as defense of impeachment is a conservative pundit that doesn't care about the truth and never has


[27-Sep-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://i.imgur.com/lc21qxm.png

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[27-Sep-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My description is good enough


[27-Sep-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pretentious-is-not-a-sexual-orientation

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/pretentious-is-not-a-sexual-orientation
Pretentious Is Not A Sexual Orientation
‘Sapiosexual’ has to be one of the stupidest sexual ‘identities’ to come along in years.
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[27-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
I linked a couple other, more neutral articles about "sapiosexuality" last night, but this is an SJW article arguing that a sexual identity isn't valid because it's pretentious


[27-Sep-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
which is both one of the most hilarious and one of the most hypocritical things I've ever seen


[27-Sep-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mayonnaise is not an instrument.


[27-Sep-19 11:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It is if you fist a jar full of it to make sound.


[27-Sep-19 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
don't sjw articles normally argue that completely contradictory things are valid and people who raise concerns are merely reacting emotionally


[27-Sep-19 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
this reads more like a conservative position


[27-Sep-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
the author has a phd in "Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies", and SJWs ultimately use conservative tactics to argue for leftist ideals


[27-Sep-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
but basically, the sentiment against "sapiosexuality" is that it assumes that it's talking about specific high IQ intelligence, not other forms of intelligence


[27-Sep-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
basically, that it puts down people with mental disabilities


[27-Sep-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
(it doesn't necessarily)


[27-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
I found the 3 articles from <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_identity#Identities>


[27-Sep-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
in the sapiosexual section


[27-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
> Sapiosexuality describes attraction to the intelligence of another person. The word sapio means, "I discern or understand", in Latin. Sapiosexual-identifying individuals can also be gay, straight, or bisexual. It is not a sexual orientation. It first gained mainstream attention in 2014 when dating website OkCupid added it as one of several new sexual orientation and gender identity options.
> 
> About 0.5% of OkCupid users identify as sapiosexual, and it is most common among those ages 31-40. Women are more likely to identify as sapiosexual than men. Several commentators have stated that sapiosexuality is "elitist," "discriminatory," and "pretentious."


[27-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/nyregion/the-hottest-body-part-for-a-sapiosexual-its-the-brain.html

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By Anna North
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/nyregion/the-hottest-body-part-for-a-sapiosexual-its-the-brain.html
The Hottest Body Part? For a Sapiosexual, It’s the Brain
In a society obsessed with physical appearance, sexual attraction for some people is based on intellect, and not necessarily on looks.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/06/03/nyregion/03SAPIO1/00SAPIO1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
> With increased visibility has come a backlash: Some say declaring a sexual preference based on intelligence is pretentious, elitist or insulting to people with disabilities.


[27-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
> Some people find the term offensive. “‘Sapiosexual’ seems to circulate primarily as a layer of pretension on top of a more traditional sexual identity,” Samantha Allen wrote at The Daily Beast in 2015. She also noted that criticisms of the term are common on Tumblr, which is known for in-depth discussions of sexuality.
> 
> Users of the site have argued that the term promotes a single, fixed idea of intelligence, and that it encourages discrimination against people who have intellectual disabilities or autism spectrum disorders or who can’t afford higher education.


[27-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ehh...


[27-Sep-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
(samantha allen is the one who wrote the daily beast article)


[27-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I find the idea of being attracted to someone more based on their intelligence to be faaar more believable than a lot of these other "sexualities"


[27-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
basically, she's arguing against sapiosexuality because she deems it an extra label that "cishets" can add to themselves


[27-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait until girls show up who are attracted to rich...


[27-Sep-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
> “What I connect most with and value most as a sapiosexual is emotional intelligence and comedic intelligence,” said Ms. Sheffield, who lives in Manhattan. “You just have to have a sense of humor. If you don’t, I’ll be as attracted to you as I am to a Border collie.”


[28-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
that part about the border collie is hilarious because I literally know people who are attracted to border collies


[28-Sep-19 12:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, someone's gotta be full hipster about it


[28-Sep-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
> While good looks are a plus for her, they are not her biggest concern. Men can look like “horrible trolls” for all she cares, as long as they are funny and engaging.
> 
> In fact, she finds an emphasis on physical beauty suspect. “The idea that you would place all this value on this thing that is literally deteriorating in front of your eyes,” she said, “it’s so stupid.”


[28-Sep-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, the brain is "literally deteriorating" outside of your vision too


[28-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, SJWs hate sapiosexuality because it supposedly puts down people with mental disabilities


[28-Sep-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
because in their minds, the only thing people mean when they say "intelligence" is IQ


[28-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And now, how about zoophilia as form of sexuality?

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[28-Sep-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So what? Am I supposed to be attracted to a retard just because she has tits?


[28-Sep-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
and this is where SJWism's veneer breaks down and it just becomes conservative authoritarianism because their answer would be that your feelings don't matter on the subject because you're "more privileged"


[28-Sep-19 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
It's more people beiong pretentous "uhhh I am only atracted to smart peoplem you know"


[28-Sep-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
no, it's not people only being attracted to smart people, it's people finding intelligence sexy


[28-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, being attracted to people because of their personality is wrong


[28-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is pretentious to call it sexualty.


[28-Sep-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't like complete assholes you're being prejudiced


[28-Sep-19 12:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nothing wrong for liking intelligence or any other non physical properties, but calling sexualty is a bit overboard


[28-Sep-19 12:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I would prefer a tall woman does this mean I hate short women?


[28-Sep-19 12:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What do you call sexualty where you ar attracted to tall women?


[28-Sep-19 12:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
AmazonSexual?


[28-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's for bimbos


[28-Sep-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i don't want to fuck Jeff Bezos


[28-Sep-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bimbos are not amazons...


[28-Sep-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of them are


[28-Sep-19 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There can be short bimbos tho


[28-Sep-19 12:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You can fuck alexa when Amazon release their Amazon Prime Alexa waifu robot android.


[28-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still waiting for that Cortana AR "assistant"

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[28-Sep-19 12:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
ASSistant :twicrazy:


[28-Sep-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://people.com/music/mark-ronson-apologizes-sapiosexual-comment/

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https://people.com/music/mark-ronson-apologizes-sapiosexual-comment/
Mark Ronson Walks Back His Sapiosexual Comment and Apologizes for ...
The music producer appeared on Good Morning Britain last week and said he identifies as sapiosexual
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[28-Sep-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason I discovered the term was because I saw this article in passing on google news


[28-Sep-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he implied he was sapiosexual, and it triggered the SJWs


[28-Sep-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't even outright say it


[28-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You cannot call preferrence sexuality, simple as  that


[28-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
> The music producer said that while he was on Good Morning Britain, the show’s hosts explained how they recently had a segment on sapiosexuality. When Ronson asked what it was, he said the hosts told him, “When you’re attracted to intelligence.”
> 
> In response, Ronson said, “That sounds great. Of course, who wouldn’t be?” — something he claimed the hosts misinterpreted as him identifying as a sapiosexual.


[28-Sep-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
> “And they were like basically like, ‘OK, Mark Ronson identifies himself as sapiosexual, that’s great,'” Ronson continued. “And then they proceeded to ask me about Miley Cyrus’ dating life and something else I probably wasn’t that informed to talk about, either, and then that was it.”


[28-Sep-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
but it's not preference


[28-Sep-19 12:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
>Good Morning Britain
See. you don't have to be smart to be a sapiosexual.


[28-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
if you read any of the bit I copied over from the nytimes article, it's more like the main thing you look for in a person


[28-Sep-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
having sexual attraction for people who are intelligent (not just brainy intelligence, but comedic and social intelligence too)


[28-Sep-19 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What would the opposite of sapiosexuality be


[28-Sep-19 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As in, being turned on by dumb people


[28-Sep-19 12:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gordisexual?


[28-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's people who actually look for partners that are dumber in order to manipulate and abuse them


[28-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
that's not really a sexual preference though

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[28-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What do you call people who are attracted to people with money?


[28-Sep-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
timophilia


[28-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/timophilia

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timophilia


[28-Sep-19 12:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
gold diggers


[28-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice preview, wiktionary


[28-Sep-19 12:20 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We have another one on the list


[28-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
I've only ever seen wiktionary preview when there's an image in the entry


[28-Sep-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
which doesn't happen very often


[28-Sep-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh fucking boy, it's lag time again


[28-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/travel/saudi-tourist-visa-questions.html

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By Tariro Mzezewa
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/travel/saudi-tourist-visa-questions.html
Saudi Arabia Invites Tourists: What You Need to Know
For the first time, the conservative kingdom is opening its doors to travelers who want to visit for more than religious reasons. But how ready the country is for foreign tourists is a question.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/27/travel/27saudi-travel-sub/merlin_102649891_bcea3091-6998-4240-82c7-52b1861d2e88-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[28-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
> For the first time, Saudi Arabia is officially opening its doors to tourists interested in visiting the kingdom for more than religious reasons. The ultraconservative Middle Eastern kingdom announced a new e-visa program on Friday that will allow people from 49 countries to enter the country for tourism, for stays as long as three months.


[28-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
this sounds like an invitation to get butchered and melted in acid


[28-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So what's bottom line:
-sjw making mountain of molehill for nothing
-sapiosexuality is just another -philia
-blown out of proportions


[28-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/pompeo-congressional-subpoena-ukraine/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/pompeo-congressional-subpoena-ukraine/index.html
Pompeo subpoenaed by House committees for failure to produce Ukrai...
The chairmen of three House committees subpoenaed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Friday over his failure to produce documents related to Ukraine.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190820083301-02-mike-pompeo-2019-super-tease.jpg


[28-Sep-19 12:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Something tells me this isn't about tourism and more to do with nobody wanting to publicly sell them guns.


[28-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
> The announcement of the visa program comes one week before the one-year anniversary of the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist critical of the government, and during a time when the kingdom’s treatment of women’s rights activists has garnered international condemnation.


[28-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Make guns out of tourists? Hmm


[28-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not too much to see I bet


[28-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/463458-white-house-confirms-ukraine-transcript-was-moved-to-highly#

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White House confirms Ukraine transcript was moved to highly classi...
The White House reportedly confirmed Friday that the partial transcript of President Trump’s call with Ukraine at the center of a whistleblower complaint was moved to a highly classified system maintained by the National Security Council (NSC) at
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_091619getty_0.jpg


[28-Sep-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazing, they discount the complaint and then keep saying things that back it up


[28-Sep-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/463459-giuliani-to-speak-at-event-featuring-putin

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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/463459-giuliani-to-speak-at-event-featuring-putin
Giuliani pulls out of event featuring Putin: reports
Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, appeared to back out of a conference in Armenia sponsored by the Kremlin that will include appearances by Russian President Vladimir Putin and other Russian officials.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giuliani-1.jpg


[28-Sep-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, how long until giuliani throws on a cape and starts calling himself the super lawyer?


[28-Sep-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His meltdown on Fox happened because someone pointed out he hasn't really practiced law in decades


[28-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/463470-special-envoy-for-ukraine-steps-down-report

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/463470-special-envoy-for-ukraine-steps-down-report
Trump's special envoy for Ukraine steps down
President Trump's Special Envoy for Ukraine Kurt Volker has stepped down from his post, days after revelations that Trump had pressed Ukraine's government to investigate Democratic presidential frontrunner Joe Biden.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/wolkerkurt_092719getty.jpg


[28-Sep-19 01:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/F8wk7QpjDJo

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The Citizen Brain
https://youtu.be/F8wk7QpjDJo
[YTP] Trump's Stand-Up Routine Needs Some Work
0:00, 2:35 "Intermission" by Monty Python 0:13 "Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)" by C+C Music Factory 1:53 "State Anthem of the Russian Federation...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F8wk7QpjDJo/hqdefault.jpg


[28-Sep-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463471-gop-rep-mark-amodei-comes-out-in-support-of-impeachment-inquiry

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463471-gop-rep-mark-amodei-comes-out-in-support-of-impeachment-inquiry
GOP Rep. Mark Amodei comes out in support of impeachment inquiry
Rep. Mark Amodei (R-Nev.) became the sole House Republican to back an impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/amodeimark_100317gn_lead.jpg


[28-Sep-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-says-house-intel-chair-schiff-should-resign-be-investigated-n1059536

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-says-house-intel-chair-schiff-should-resign-be-investigated-n1059536
Trump says House Intel chair Schiff should 'resign and be investig...
The House Intelligence Committee chairman parodied Trump on Thursday. The president said this amounted to a lie.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_39/3028476/190927-adam-schiff-ew-1122a_68f7d80ab3d4944dd7f581717d36aa34.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Sep-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump says House Intel chair Schiff should 'resign and be investigated' — for parodying him


[28-Sep-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump called for the resignation of House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff on Friday, claiming the Democratic congressman "lied to Congress" with his mocking interpretation of the president's call with the Ukrainian leader.


[28-Sep-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
I am confus


[28-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's like schrödinger's phone call


[28-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
it both happened and didn't happen


[28-Sep-19 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
and the worst part is that they're doing it in the stupidest way possible that's definitely going to turn off anyone on the fence


[28-Sep-19 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
well, worst for trump


[28-Sep-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am confused


[28-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It happened and they keep corroborating the complaint


[28-Sep-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this thing keeps getting more stupid...


[28-Sep-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure how that's possible but soemhow...


[28-Sep-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They keep thinking stuff that makes things worse makes things better


[28-Sep-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we tell them about the secret server, they'll leave us alone because it will be a secret and no one likes breaking those!"


[28-Sep-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463473-white-house-sought-to-keep-trump-calls-with-putin-saudi-arabia-from

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463473-white-house-sought-to-keep-trump-calls-with-putin-saudi-arabia-from
White House sought to keep Trump calls with Putin, Saudi Arabia fr...
The White House sought to limit access to conversations President Trump had with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Russian President Vladimir Putin,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_092419getty.jpg


[28-Sep-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lesleyabravanel/status/1177577723155374080

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Lesley Abravanel🆘 (@lesleyabravanel)
https://twitter.com/lesleyabravanel/status/1177577723155374080
@realDonaldTrump He made nothing up,you syphilitic slug.He offered a parody because your original delivery was so damn depressing & treasonous. You must resign & be investigated. You have been doing this for 2 years, 249 days, 20 hours, 48 minutes & 27 seconds. You are a s...
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[28-Sep-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
> He made nothing up, you syphilitic slug


[28-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
#SyphiliticSlug


[28-Sep-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
(the response with that hashtag misspelled it)


[28-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/hashtag/syphiliticslug

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https://twitter.com/hashtag/syphiliticslug
#syphiliticslug hashtag on Twitter
On Jul 22 @lesleyabravanel tweeted: "We had no collusion, no obstruction, we .." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
Twitter


[28-Sep-19 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently it's been floating around for awhile


[28-Sep-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand how someone can hold such two wildly differing points of view simultaneously


[28-Sep-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inability to understand they differ.


[28-Sep-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
but it's literally saying that everything should be personal responsibility, but then not hold police personally responsible


[28-Sep-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
how can someone not understand that they are nearly complete opposite viewpoints?


[28-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We had Nunes say Democrats wanted nudes of the president


[28-Sep-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why can't Schiff do a little exaggerating?


[28-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/pelosi-barr.html

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By Eileen Sullivan
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/pelosi-barr.html
Pelosi Says Barr Has ‘Gone Rogue’
The House speaker says Attorney General William P. Barr should not have been involved in the handling of a whistle-blower complaint that named him.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/27/us/politics/27dc-pelosi-promo/27dc-pelosi-promo-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[28-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday said that Attorney General William P. Barr had “gone rogue,” and questioned whether he could objectively make decisions about legal action in response to an explosive whistle-blower complaint accusing President Trump of misconduct, because Mr. Barr himself was mentioned in the document.


[28-Sep-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
> “I do think the attorney general has gone rogue,” Ms. Pelosi said on CNN. “He has for a long time now. And since he was mentioned in all of this, it’s curious that he would be making decisions about how the complaint would be handled.”


[28-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://abc13.com/pioneering-deputy-dies-after-being-shot-from-behind-sheriff/5573573/

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https://abc13.com/pioneering-deputy-dies-after-being-shot-from-behind-sheriff/5573573/
'Pioneering' deputy dies after being shot from behind: sheriff
Deputy Sandeep Dhaliwal was shot multiple times in a northwest Harris County neighborhood during a traffic stop.
https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5574234_092719-ktrk-deputy-dhaliwal-salute-img.jpg?w=1600


[28-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[28-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
sikh deputy was doing a routine traffic stop when the passenger got out of the car almost immediately after the officer was walking back to his car and shot him in the back of the head


[28-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/463483-mcconnell-encouraged-trump-to-release-transcript-of-zelensky-call-report

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/463483-mcconnell-encouraged-trump-to-release-transcript-of-zelensky-call-report
McConnell encouraged Trump to release transcript of Zelensky call:...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) reportedly encouraged President Trump to release the memorandum of his controversial call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_092519gn2_lead.jpg


[28-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Moscow Mitch wanted the release but not Pence.


[28-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-donald-trump-idiot-says-florida-middle-school-teacher-n1059781

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-donald-trump-idiot-says-florida-middle-school-teacher-n1059781
Trump called 'idiot' in middle school test
A parent at Watson B. Duncan Middle School in Palm Beach Gardens wasn't happy with test question.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_39/3029011/190927-watson-b-duncan-middle-school-se-420p_2fa9d239fad7ab0576846aaeb3227e62.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
> A Florida middle school teacher called Donald Trump an "idiot" on a quiz for students, angering at least one parent who objected to the presidential pejorative.


[28-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
> The instructor at Watson B. Duncan Middle School in Palm Beach Gardens recently gave a quiz asking kids to identify the "45th Pres; 2017; Republican; Real Estate businessman; Idiot," NBC affiliate WPTV reported.


[28-Sep-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
> The choices were Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Trump.

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[28-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[28-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
I wouldn't call reagan an idiot, but his policies, like damn


[28-Sep-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
nixon, carter, and trump would all be equally correct though


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Carter wasn't too much of an idiot, though he wasn't the Bernie Sanders figure anti-Reagan people would want us to believe either


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
what? carter was a neoliberal


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
he was basically the first neoliberal to hold the presidency


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
he started this shitshow


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
that is the US's economy today


[28-Sep-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
all the rollbacks of regulations


[28-Sep-19 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the point, i've seen many people forget it all didn't start with Reagan himself


[28-Sep-19 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He was riding off a momentum of *something*


[28-Sep-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, he beat nixon's VP


[28-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4293966-strap-folks-fridays-china-portfolio-flows-story-bad-news

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https://seekingalpha.com/article/4293966-strap-folks-fridays-china-portfolio-flows-story-bad-news
'Strap In Folks', Friday's China Portfolio Flows Story Is Bad News
Markets were blindsided on Friday by news that the Trump administration is considering choking off portfolio flows to China. The options under discussion report
https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2019/9/27/47439673-1569610831235962_origin.png


[28-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[28-Sep-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
> There are more than 150 Chinese companies listed on America's largest exchanges. Their combined market cap exceeds $1 trillion. Forcibly delisting those or, worse, attempting to orchestrate index shakeups by executive decree, is an almost unfathomable prospect.
> 
> Even if you could argue that it's feasible and justified to protect domestic investors from murky Chinese corporate structures and ensure Americans aren't funneling capital to a country that is in open economic conflict with the US, such a move would almost certainly derail the trade talks, only for good this time.


[28-Sep-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Before we get too far into the realm of hypotheticals, let's just bring it back to what's true right now. We don't know if any of the ideas under consideration by the White House will ever reach the implementation phase, and even if they did, the day of reckoning is some ways off.


[28-Sep-19 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-administration-rule-could-end-free-school-lunches-for-about-500000-children/2019/09/24/4c488f66-def1-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html


[28-Sep-19 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
guess what it's time for


[28-Sep-19 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
FUCK POOR PEOPLE THATS WHAT


[28-Sep-19 07:06 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Why don't poor people just buy money :shrugpony:"


[28-Sep-19 08:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/BD3my03ioio

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LegalEagle
https://youtu.be/BD3my03ioio
Ukraine Whistleblower, Transcript, Complaint & Impeachment -- Real...
A CIA whistleblower alleges President Trump abused his office to get dirt on his main political rival. Legal Eagles get 2 months of unlimited learning on Ski...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BD3my03ioio/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Sep-19 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
40 minutes


[28-Sep-19 08:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Insanity, Pompeo got hit with a triple subpoena


[28-Sep-19 08:10 AM] byte[]#2610
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trump-russian-officials-2016-meddling.html

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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trump-russian-officials-2016-meddling.html
Trump Told Russian Officials He Didn’t Care About 2016 Election ...
During his infamous 2017 Oval Office meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak, Trump reportedly said he was unconcerned about Moscow’s election interference.
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/09/27/27-lavrov-trump.w600.h315.2x.jpg


[28-Sep-19 08:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Rudy Colludey https://news.sky.com/story/rudy-giuliani-president-trumps-lawyer-willing-to-testify-over-impeachment-claims-11821359

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https://news.sky.com/story/rudy-giuliani-president-trumps-lawyer-willing-to-testify-over-impeachment-claims-11821359
Rudy Giuliani: President Trump's lawyer willing to testify over im...
Mr Trump allegedly pressured Ukraine's president to probe Joe Biden, days after ordering a freeze of some military help for Kiev.
https://e3.365dm.com/19/09/768x432/skynews-rudy-giuliani-donald-trump_4788391.jpg?20190927213350


[28-Sep-19 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/27/us-ambassador-yovanovitch-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint/

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Kevin Hamm
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/09/27/us-ambassador-yovanovitch-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint/
Removal of U.S. ambassador to Ukraine emerging as key event in whi...
Months before the call that set off an impeachment inquiry, many in the diplomatic community were alarmed by the Trump administration’s abrupt removal of a career diplomat from her post as am…
https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/AP19270594642501.jpg?w=1024&h=726


[28-Sep-19 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/steven-menashi-trump-judicial-nominee-ukraine-whistleblower-impeachment_n_5d8e4d8ae4b0019647a8518a

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/steven-menashi-trump-judicial-nominee-ukraine-whistleblower-impeachment_n_5d8e4d8ae4b0019647a8518a
Now One Of Trump's Court Picks Is Tied Up In This Ukraine Scandal
Senate Democrats are asking judicial nominee Steven Menashi, a White House legal aide, what he's known about the bombshell whistleblower complaint.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5d8e4db0220000e60153c5bb.jpeg?cache=kxlwnbnsbt&ops=1778_1000


[28-Sep-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
so my mom's apparently gone into full lockdown mode due to the whistleblower complaint, says it's invalid because one of the talk show host people she listens to is a lawyer (a constitutional lawyer, specifically), and he concluded that the whistleblower complaint was drafted by lawyers, not the actual intelligence agent who filed the claim


[28-Sep-19 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-official-trumps-special-envoy-to-ukraine-has-resigned/2019/09/27/54e0d880-e18b-11e9-be7f-4cc85017c36f_story.html


[28-Sep-19 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Your mom's a moron because Giuliani and Trump already confirmed what was in it


[28-Sep-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
yes, she denies that they did


[28-Sep-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
that it's fake news being spun by congress or whatever


[28-Sep-19 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Print out the white house document and highlight the quid pro quo section lul


[28-Sep-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
she also claims that it wasn't trump who cut off aid to ukraine a few days before his call, but a liberal plant who did it to make trump look bad

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[28-Sep-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, she's gone full lockdown


[28-Sep-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
where's the document at?


[28-Sep-19 08:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


[28-Sep-19 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
This is what Trump ordered the release of


[28-Sep-19 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1059861

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1059861
Rudy Giuliani's former DOJ colleagues believe he committed crimes
"I think the Giuliani that I know would prosecute the Giuliani of today," said Jeffrey Harris, who worked closely with him in the 1980s.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/newscms/2019_39/3029236/190926-rudy-giuliani-ew-631p_7c7300b798de22f6bbbe944c6b3f72c7.jpg


[28-Sep-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], where's the part about the US stopping aid to ukraine? I'm not seeing it for some reason


[28-Sep-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
in the document


[28-Sep-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
god, this thing reads like one of trump's speeches, even on zelensky's parts


[28-Sep-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
holy god, and copy/pasting text is horrid


[28-Sep-19 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
> President Zelenskyy: Yes  you are·absolutely right. �ot.only 100%, but actually 1000% arid I  can  tell you the  following; I  did talk to  Angela �erkel and  I  did  meet.with her. I  also met and talked with.Macron and I  told them that they are not  doing quite as  much as  they need to  be  doing·on the issues with the sanctions. 
> They are not  enforcing the  sanctions. They are  not working as  much as .they should work for  Ukraine� It  turns outthat even though logically, the  European Union should be  our biggest· partner but  technically the United States is  a  much bigger partner than.the  European Union and-I'm  very grateful to you for that because the  United States is  doing quite a· lot for Ukraine.


[28-Sep-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, this is all zelensky's text, and it reads like trump's speaking patterns


[28-Sep-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
I figured out what my mom most likely heard that convinced her that the whole whistleblowing thing was fake, mark levin says that the whole thing is "too convenient" that such a "perfectly damaging" thing comes out and hurts trump


[28-Sep-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically saying that there's no way the whole thing wasn't orchestrated by the deep state liberal socialist communist liberals in congress


[28-Sep-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The text you get on copy is some shit from automatic character recognition when the printed thing was scanned to make the PDF I think.


[28-Sep-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially my understanding of what happened with the "transcript" is this:


[28-Sep-19 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 Electronic transcript made from call with computer speech to text.
2 WH aide makes corrections so it's accurate to what was said.
3 Trump has it put under codeword level protection.
4 After shit hits the fan, senior aide is brought in to rushedly make something releasable, isn't allowed direct access to the original, Trump essentially makes up parts of the conversation (Zelensky's dialog is clearly fabricated, likely because it directly asked about the aid delay and thus if actually released would completely settle things that Trump did a quid pro quo), leaves out bits. No proofreading, tons of errors, cause only the one aide is allowed in on things to prevent leaking how much of a (shoddy) coverup this is.
5 Trump goes over it, has a few bits cut out in his side of the conversation (ellipses).
6 The same aide then spaces out the first page's header to provide extra room for what he'll put in later.
7 He prints it out.
8 He stamps unclassified on every page.
9 He scans it into a PDF.
10 He adds the whole declassified by order of etc.
11 He sends it off to be bundled with talking points and emailed out to Republican congressmen by another aide, who makes an "accidental" leak to non-Republican congressmen.


[28-Sep-19 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I bet Trump is still habitually shredding documents


[28-Sep-19 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You would think that would have been a thing brought up in the several trials but nope...


[28-Sep-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
If you mean shredding them with his teeth


[28-Sep-19 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
and swallowing them


[28-Sep-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[28-Sep-19 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Bojo the clown strikes again https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/uk/boris-johnson-police-watchdog-intl-gbr/index.html

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Boris Johnson has been referred to a police watchdog over his alle...
On Friday, the Greater London Authority (GLA) said in a statement that it has asked the Independent Office for Police Conduct to assess whether it is necessary to investigate Johnson for the criminal offense of misconduct in public office.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190927164940-02-boris-johnson-jennifer-arcuri-super-tease.jpg


[28-Sep-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on top of that he basically gave the entirety of parliament and their friends and family a death threat built on Jo Cox's name


[28-Sep-19 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html
Wall Street Democratic donors warn the party: We'll sit out, or ba...
In recent interviews of big-money Democratic donors, CNBC has found this opinion is becoming widely shared as Warren surges against Joe Biden.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106149032-1569443158650gettyimages-1167635924.jpeg?v=1569443214


[28-Sep-19 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't give a damn what the donors think


[28-Sep-19 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
They are not the people


[28-Sep-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ihope warren gets the nomination


[28-Sep-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article235563497.html


[28-Sep-19 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[28-Sep-19 04:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[28-Sep-19 04:57 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Sep-19 05:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
:pokerface:


[28-Sep-19 05:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
hashtag no collusion


[28-Sep-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vlau421v1ap31.jpg

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[28-Sep-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/353418a8970f405a8ed932fedcbb7e5d

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Former college towns left to adapt to business loss
POULTNEY, Vt. (AP) — As colleges and universities come alive this fall, some campuses sit closed and empty after succumbing to a recent wave of fewer students and financial challenges. Now...
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[28-Sep-19 07:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://t.co/Firqds4YWP

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Lauren Steen
https://t.co/Firqds4YWP
Lauren Steen on Twitter
“And it all comes together. William bar is on official business in Italy. Pompeo is on official business in Italy. Many Russian oligarchs are in Italy. Steve Bannon is still in Italy. Nothing about this feels remotely right at all. 

The end for now,”
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/699810650860736512/xSNk17i8_400x400.jpg


[28-Sep-19 07:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a commenter also pointed out Giuliani was spotted at an airport...


[28-Sep-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/china-branded-global-disinformation-superpower-new-report-10817738/

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Jeff Parsons
https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/27/china-branded-global-disinformation-superpower-new-report-10817738/
China branded a 'global disinformation superpower' by new research
'Amplifying disinformation, inciting violence, and lowering trust'
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[28-Sep-19 07:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Guy raises money for charity. Newspaper digs up 8 years of old tweets to smear the guy. newspaper reporter turns out to even have worse tweets.
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[28-Sep-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then readers dig up reporters old racist tweets and get the reporter fired


[28-Sep-19 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We can never look into people's past and see if bad things about them exist.


[28-Sep-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever, otherwise you're just an obnoxious canceller trying to ruin someone's career.


[28-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What people fundamentally want is no responsibility for their actions.


[28-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We never used to question this, a decade ago if you dropped the n bomb no one would defend you.


[28-Sep-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now people flock to them because we don't want someone to ever have to deal with consequences and it just turns into "must defend my tribe"


[28-Sep-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone gets a daycare and tweets from 8 years ago are found saying they like little kids sexually, don't cancel them! It's rude.


[28-Sep-19 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is enough to justify it to people?


[28-Sep-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets even worse when you throw in the "snitches get stitches" crowd


[28-Sep-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which doesn;t just want the offenders to not be cancelled, they'll threaten to kill you if you try


[28-Sep-19 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though i;m unsure what racist tweets have to do with a charity for a hospital in those regards


[28-Sep-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You're throwing a charity for a hospital!? Here's racist tweets that you made unrelated to hospitals that are soemhow supposed to discredit a charity for hospitals!"


[28-Sep-19 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/QGQWNX1.mp4

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[28-Sep-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the old road rage argument.


[28-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get road rage, you swear at people, flip them off, cut them off: "I had a really bad day at work, I hadn't slept well, and I was kinda high on some medicine."


[28-Sep-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone else does the same: "Wow, what an asshole, this is inexcusable, he shouldn't be fucking allowed to drive. Seriously, I'm gonna call the police if he keeps this shit up."


[28-Sep-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is squeaky-clean; if you go digging, you will always find some dirt, and the problem with cancel culture is that it overreacts to even small amounts of dirt and acts when doing so is inappropriate due to irrelevance.


[28-Sep-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why we hav the 4th amendment btw, because a fishing expedition on someone's personal effects is virtually guaranteed to find a prosecutable offense.


[28-Sep-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea of having to get warrants is so that the police save their time for when there is actually a problem going on.


[28-Sep-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And thus they deal with relevant trouble that needs to be stopped instead of targeting individuals.


[28-Sep-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is also part of why we hav the 1st, so that the gov't can't just go "you were supporting this X years ago, so we're imprisoning you"


[28-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core of the problem with cancel culture is that this vast repository of information, making people's lives more public and searchable, means that common citizens can do what was once the realm of the gov't.


[28-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to talke about what I mean of "inappropriate due to irrelevance", that harkens to the case at hand: Racist sayings of a guy doing charitable work.


[28-Sep-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are we to deny the charity?


[28-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing to relate the US legal system is that character evidence is only admissable if the defense makes it such.


[28-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the prosecution can't go "this guy is clearly evil!"


[28-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless the defense first goes "this guy is clearly not evil"


[28-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point if it is to make it so you can't be damned by whatever out of context things you've said that the gov't can dig up.


[28-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It keeps things actually relevant and fair, and keeps to the evidence about the actual crime mostly.


[28-Sep-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the court of public opinion need not be perfectly in line with legal principles, of course, but I think it could do with learning a bit more of them and **why they exist**. Cancel culture is, in the end, a plague, @Itsthinking, it makes being targeted by society as an undesirable a similar lottery to being stopped on the road by a cop with our excessive number of statutes with little to no *mens rea*.


[28-Sep-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


[28-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When everyone has the flu, no one has the flu.


[28-Sep-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand the problem.


[28-Sep-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is akin to a lottery.


[28-Sep-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
1 person has X issue, 1 has Y, 1 Z, on and on.


[28-Sep-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
At any given moment any one could be found out.


[28-Sep-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But not all could be found out to an extent that would make everyone realize that what they're doing is unfair.


[28-Sep-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the "first they came for" scenario


[28-Sep-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Each individual acts in accordance with the groupthink punishment of the one designated target, until they are the target


[28-Sep-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
at each turn, they are outnumbered


[28-Sep-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but unlike that scenario, it does not occur fast enuff for there to be nobody left.


[28-Sep-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a sense, human society always operates in this manner, but the extent varies.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What I'm saying is bad behavior and calling each other out for it becomes irrelevant because everyone has it.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of an organized system of 'Justice' is to ensure some level of fairness and proportionality.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a positive and a negative.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will not.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is part of the problem.


[28-Sep-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will occur on a basis too infrequent to prevent reflection on that maybe *everyone* is as bad.


[28-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is the punishment continues, and still does not focus on the worst things.


[28-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which hurts people without good reason.


[28-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I fear that no one will call anyone else out out of fear of getting their own shit called out


[28-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone will always call out.


[28-Sep-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, what will likely happen is people will avoid becoming a potential target.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will attempt to remain forever anonymous, even when they do things that in the past would've acquired them fame.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The correct strategy is to make it so nobody can definitively identify you and target you based on your past statements.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just nuke your Twitter


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Creating multiple fake identities that can each be easily ditched.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the idea, but more.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nuke everything, repeatedly, and hav it be separate to begin with.


[28-Sep-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
A society of sneaks.


[28-Sep-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is that wrongdoers can hide more easily, provided something does not force them into the public eye, such as becoming a politician.


[28-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, people who are not devoted to continual wrongdoing will foolishly expose themselves, and become a target for accidental transgressions.


[28-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse than nobody being called out, @Itsthinking, only the good people who try to liv honestly will be called out.


[28-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A society of sneaks


[28-Sep-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
A web meant for abusers catching only innocent fools.


[28-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tying this bakk, this is why it's bad to disallow rape jokes, in essence.


[28-Sep-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you make a topic something people can no longer discuss, it makes it harder to find the guilty, but easy to find the clueless innocent.


[28-Sep-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the actual bad people will just go opaque and use things to hide.


[28-Sep-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cyberpunk dystopia, here we come.


[28-Sep-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is squeaky clean on Twitter but just goes to anonymous message boards to drop the n bomb


[28-Sep-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the future


[28-Sep-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not the future


[28-Sep-19 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
see above:

> When you make a topic something people can no longer discuss, it makes it harder to find the guilty, but easy to find the clueless innocent.


[28-Sep-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd find people who complain that you can't tell rape jokes more genuine if they gave a shit about the lack of processing of rape kits


[28-Sep-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Complaining about false accusations to them is never about helping actual victims like they claim


[28-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are free to discuss anything, what a lot of people want is immunity from criticism


[28-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like fine, say the Holocaust never happened


[28-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The evil will be squeaky-clean on Twitter, but dropping n-bombs on anonymous boards about how to procure child sex slaves.


[28-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's unreasonable to expect no one to react.


[28-Sep-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The good will be on Twitter losing their cool once and dropping an n-bomb, or arguing that AoC should be 15 instead of 16, and immediately get SWAT'd, then fired after a public campaign, then become homeless.


[28-Sep-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
All punishment has a chilling effect, and causes harm; you must weigh the harm it produces against what you are trying to do with it.


[28-Sep-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html

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[28-Sep-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ukrainegate really is like Watergate


[28-Sep-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachable offense over someone who is no threat


[28-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
See that's the thing


[28-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cheaters don't become cheaters by saving cheating for when they need it.


[28-Sep-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They become cheaters by *always* cheating.


[28-Sep-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even when it is completely unnecessary.


[28-Sep-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saving your cheating leads to worse results because surprises can defeat you.


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This ties in with the 4th amendment deal


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
someone who is of a persuasion that they want to commit crimes isn't going to stop because they got away with one once


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're going to do it again and again


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ukrainegate is almost worse than Watergate


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
someone who *actually* just made one mistake probably won't commit another crime anytime soon


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All Nixon did was say "yeah break in" and cover it up


[28-Sep-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why it's not a big deal to let potentially guilty people go free


[28-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
or to miss crucial evidence once


[28-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only the truly troublesome will reoffend after being let go.


[28-Sep-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
By contrast, when you put an innocent person in jail, you needlessly ruin a life.


[28-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was posted in general.


[28-Sep-19 11:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/09/27/graf/

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[28-Sep-19 11:26 PM] ononim#8141
> “We have outlined three competencies that typify the ‘man of the future.’ The first is a person [sic] who is highly creative. Second, this person has a well-developed capacity for systems thinking. You will agree that finding a really creative person who thinks systemically is a huge rarity. **Out of seven billion people, six billion will be eliminated.** The third component is the ability to get results,” Graf said.


[28-Sep-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmmmm


[28-Sep-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's _probably_ just really bad wording, but, banker... they're sort of psychopaths by default


[29-Sep-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1177956453707071491

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Can't say I love Bill Barr making an unannounced trip to Rome, during which trip no one knows who he's meeting with (but doesn't appear to be meeting with anyone you'd expect), at a time when one of the top two suspects in the Trump-Russia scandal (on the Russian side) is ...
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[29-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are they all going to Italy


[29-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Italy is corrupt.


[29-Sep-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less likely to be investigated there, @Itsthinking


[29-Sep-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/5ifpivyqgnm31.jpg

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[29-Sep-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
I like how poland thinks that germany is both the most trustworthy and least trustworthy country


[29-Sep-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland: Germany has two faces, you see...


[29-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're trustworthy, but you know they're going to stab you in the face at some point


[29-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49864964

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Boeing ordered to inspect cracks on 737 NG planes
The 737 Max, currently grounded worldwide following two crashes, is not affected by the move.
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[29-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say it hasn't been a good year for Boeing


[29-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But they sort of killed a few hundred people and are apparently still in operation, so...


[29-Sep-19 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Funny that


[29-Sep-19 01:09 AM] Litrojia#0612
It won't happen, but imagine if they grounded the NG


[29-Sep-19 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if they hung the CEO and board of directors from a tree


[29-Sep-19 01:12 AM] Litrojia#0612
Imagine if Boeing was broken up


[29-Sep-19 01:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine if they took the CEOs on a flight of a 737 max


[29-Sep-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, big democratic donor corporations just threatened to donate to trump if warren becomes the democratic nominee


[29-Sep-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
we already live in the corporate oligarchy


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
Well yeah


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Litrojia#0612
It's out of our hands now


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope they do


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's all recorded


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Let the people know who it is that wants them dead so much


[29-Sep-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MAX is poorly designed mechanically


[29-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they tried to fix it in software, which was also poorly designed


[29-Sep-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus the whole safety DLC thing


[29-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact they even hav to threaten such is an indicator that they know the fire has started, Crow


[29-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic debates hav been all about economic inequality


[29-Sep-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the writing is on the wall.


[29-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Warren/Yang 2020 plz


[29-Sep-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, it'll be Biden/Harris, but let me dream


[29-Sep-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
no, biden's getting pushed out by warren now


[29-Sep-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
at least for the moment, and there's nothing that biden has said or done that indicates he plans on saying anything other than what he's already said, which is that he is another 4 years of obama policies


[29-Sep-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
biden's been on a downwards trend since he announced he was running lol


[29-Sep-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
C. Niall de Mencha


[29-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But Crow, this is real life


[29-Sep-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best you can hope for is mediocrity, the most likely outcome is disaster


[29-Sep-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I said that biden won't get the nomination, and biden is probably the worst candidate to face trump


[29-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
he isn't the mediocre pick lol


[29-Sep-19 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
but unless there's something added to the system that makes biden surge back up, he's been on a constant downwards trend since he started


[29-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
I suppose the oligarchs could start donating to him for ad money


[29-Sep-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
but the more that biden exposes himself personally to the masses, the worse he does


[29-Sep-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The DNC can probably rig it but a rig depends on people voting for biden and then their super majority people voting for biden


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
because he keeps gaffing and making shitty statements that are easily interpreted as "fuck poor people"


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
because he legitimately hates poor people


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know how else to put it


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the vote starts out numbering biden then the DNC can't reallty rig shit


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
yes, but mainstream democrats are usually good at veiling that sentiment


[29-Sep-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
biden is no longer capable of doing that, I assume because of alzheimer's


[29-Sep-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
also, the DNC was rigged in 2016 because hillary bought it out after it bankrupted itself


[29-Sep-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think they also scrubbed all the compromised members after last election, i could be wrong though


[29-Sep-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i knwo they atleast changed the leader of the whole thing for being compromised


[29-Sep-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dailyxtra.com/why-are-queer-people-so-mean-to-each-other-160978

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Why are queer people so mean to each other?
How brain science explains queer trauma, conflict and call-out culture
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[29-Sep-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
relinking for the above discussion about cancel culture


[29-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll probably be Warren/Buttigieg


[29-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
warren/gabbard would be nice


[29-Sep-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
I realized that bernie in the senate is probably more important than bernie in the presidency


[29-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You need a coalition ticket


[29-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
though I still think bernie would be a better public face for the movement


[29-Sep-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people on the left dislike Warren for obvious reasons


[29-Sep-19 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The Alphabet people all hate each other. The Ls and the Gs think eachother are gross and they both think the Bs are gross and the Ls Gs Bs hate the Ts for making everyone think the group is weird.

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[29-Sep-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Do candidates ever choose their rivals as a running mate?


[29-Sep-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
not in the modern age, no


[29-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
the only one I can think of off the top of my head would be lincoln (he picked a southern drunk to be his VP)


[29-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1177895314117795840?s=19

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[29-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A _loyal_ Southern drunk mind you


[29-Sep-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[29-Sep-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gabbard not doing well


[29-Sep-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[29-Sep-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's because she didn't keep up with the memes


[29-Sep-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently doesn't go through a memeologist when posting on social media


[29-Sep-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The only reason i could actually see biden picking harris as a running mate is to look less racist


[29-Sep-19 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's kind of sad, but "memeologist" is likely one of the most important advisors you could have in modern day politics


[29-Sep-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
since memes are getting so convoluted nowadays that it would take a dedicated expert to sort through them all


[29-Sep-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whenever a politician speaks, a new meme is born


[29-Sep-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris will be the AG of any Democratic candidate


[29-Sep-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is scary.


[29-Sep-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as scary as Barr but still


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
uh, she wouldn't be picked by warren or bernie


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
she's obviously pro private prisons


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
and would criminalize the things warren and bernie would seek to decriminalize


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
inb4 Williamson VP to shoo out the dark forces of the IT


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems she might make it to the next debate.


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just needs more qualifying polls.


[29-Sep-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
williamson AG


[29-Sep-19 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta align the chakras of the criminal justice system


[29-Sep-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren/Yang with Williamson AG


[29-Sep-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullock for secretary of state


[29-Sep-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden for door greeter


[29-Sep-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booker a new cabinet position to make sure Biden cannot escape his eternal torment.


[29-Sep-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I personally think biden would be happiest as the ~~court~~ cabinet jester


[29-Sep-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has several hundred seals instead of seven.


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or worse, it needs Congress to agree to a two-thirds majority to break the seal.


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
the token boomer kept around to make cringy boomer jokes that everyone laughs at him for making instead of laughing at the jokes


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
but he's too far gone to realize that they're laughing at him and not his jokes


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
When his eyes fill with blood, it means that somewhere, a neoliberal got their wings.


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wigs*


[29-Sep-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
MA Larson gone rogue


[29-Sep-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Larson 2020


[29-Sep-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rebecca sugar 2020 everyone gets family trauma!


[29-Sep-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Haber 2020, we get the founding of some random department only because he wanted to make his mark


[29-Sep-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Sep-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who the crap is tom steyer?


[29-Sep-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
generic billionaire #135


[29-Sep-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow he even looks liek a generic billionaire


[29-Sep-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> Thomas Fahr Steyer (born June 27, 1957) is an American billionaire, hedge fund manager, philanthropist, environmentalist, liberal activist, and fundraiser.


[29-Sep-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well, looks like Tom will be steyer fahr away from the presidency, huh

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[29-Sep-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably getting his name out there so he can run for Senate.


[29-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/climate-scientists-say-greta-thunberg-s-efforts-are-building-real-ncna1059321

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"She is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do," one climatologist said.
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[29-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
> Environmental activist Greta Thunberg’s searing address at the United Nations earlier this week earned enthusiastic praise from climate researchers, with many saying that the 16-year-old has found ways to raise awareness of climate science, galvanize support and resonate with people in ways that they have struggled to for decades.

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[29-Sep-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
> “Speaking as a climate change scientist who has been working on this issue for 20 years and saying the same thing for 20 years, she is getting people to listen, which we have failed to do,” said Saleemul Huq, director of the International Centre for Climate Change & Development in London.


[29-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/markhumphries/status/1177178666402365440

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THE GRETA THUNBERG HELPLINE:
For adults angry at a child. 
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[29-Sep-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes a lot harder to disagree when you see a child telling you what you're doing is stupid.


[29-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-blasts-savages-ocasio-cortez-three-other-women-color-schiff-n1059941

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Trump blasts 'savages' — Ocasio-Cortez, three other women of col...
"Savages" started to trend on Twitter after the president's post, which comes amid a House impeachment inquiry into his dealings with Ukraine.
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[29-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump blasted six members of the House of Representatives as "savages" on Saturday morning.


[29-Sep-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[29-Sep-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177919923885969408

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Can you imagine if these Do Nothing Democrat Savages, people like Nadler, Schiff, AOC Plus 3, and many more, had a Republican Party who would have done to Obama what the Do Nothings are doing to me. Oh well, maybe next time!
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[29-Sep-19 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is his every tweet a 3AM shitpost


[29-Sep-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Because he's throwing random shit at the all in every single tweet


[29-Sep-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
And looking for stuff that sticks


[29-Sep-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what doesn't stikk creates a mess on the floor everyone trying to figure him out to take him down has to wade thru.


[29-Sep-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/milleronia/status/1177270176183488512

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(((Eileen Conn))) 🌊❄️🍸🥀🆘 (@milleronia)
https://twitter.com/milleronia/status/1177270176183488512
@daveweigel Probably not. Men don't want women in power. Just look at how Bernie and his people treated Hillary, Kamala, and Elizabeth. We're used to this.

Here's the thing. We don't need them. They can go eff themselves.
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[29-Sep-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
what


[29-Sep-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
at what point did bernie say he didn't want women in power


[29-Sep-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
this is why SJWs are idiots, they assume that because literally two people who claimed to be bernie supporters said some nasty stuff about warren that somehow the entirety of bernie's campaign is misogynist


[29-Sep-19 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If i recall Bernie was nothing if not fully supportive of hillary after she beat him in the primaries even if he wanted to be there himself


[29-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie is basically "Greatest Hits: Socialism Edition"


[29-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie expressly said his intent was to push her to the left before she got into office.


[29-Sep-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it was at a point where he couldn't possibly win, but he was still running.


[29-Sep-19 03:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
If they think Bernie treated Hillary bad in 2016 then wait until the American Lenin emerges and the entire Dem party is liquidated on principle.


[29-Sep-19 03:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oENI8NnTx0w

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[29-Sep-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463527-pelosi-impeachment-worth-losing-house-in-2020

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Pelosi: Impeachment worth losing House in 2020
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated Saturday that successfully pursuing impeachment of President Trump would be worth losing the Democrats' House majority in 2020.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_092719gn5_lead.jpg


[29-Sep-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically impossible, and they have a good chance at taking the Senate too


[29-Sep-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP is defending six super weak seats, Dems only one


[29-Sep-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Colorado, Arizona, and Maine are fucked for sure for the GOP.


[29-Sep-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They get back Alabama but at what cost


[29-Sep-19 05:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rUBwnUQ6vw

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[29-Sep-19 05:17 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
ew Tim Pool


[29-Sep-19 05:17 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
the fake centrist


[29-Sep-19 05:18 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Pretending to be a fence sitter is worse than actually being on the fence


[29-Sep-19 05:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how does he pretend to be a centrist may I ask?


[29-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
🤔 he pretends to be more of radical centrist tbh


[29-Sep-19 05:23 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
He'll point out all of Trump's 4D chess memery but lean left


[29-Sep-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
he says he's a centrist but reposts conservative talking points 9/10 videos


[29-Sep-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
only every once in a while does he have a video that's actually about something in the center, but there's not a single video of his that I've looked at which don't devolve into reactionary dogwhistling within the first 30 seconds


[29-Sep-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just like to remember the time he was like, mad about Democrats shooting down an amendment to a bill to prevent illegal immigrations voting in city elections


[29-Sep-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is something that is very unconstitutional to do, hence why Democrats shot it down.


[29-Sep-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
A state is within rights to allow non-citizens to vote in its own elections.


[29-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and preventing someone from having a say over how the city they liv in is ran, while they liv in said city and pay it taxes and use its services, is a direct violation of the entire rationale for the founding of our country)


[29-Sep-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49866677

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49866677
Yemeni rebels claim mass capture of Saudi troops
Houthi insurgents say three brigades surrendered near the border, but there is no Saudi confirmation.
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[29-Sep-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
> He said thousands of soldiers had been captured and many others killed. Saudi officials have not confirmed the claim.


[29-Sep-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 the US gives a nuke to saudi arabia


[29-Sep-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
> All those captured would be paraded on the Houthi-run Al Masirah TV network on Sunday, he added.


[29-Sep-19 08:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
guess there's a certain server that's gonna get one more spicy phone call added to it


[29-Sep-19 10:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/9QVcZvr.jpg

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Bushaltestelle in Brighton
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[29-Sep-19 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[29-Sep-19 10:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/john-kelly-trump-calls-world-leaders-sensitive-information-2019-9

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John Kelly reportedly used to mute the line during calls with worl...
The fallout over a recent call between Trump and the Ukrainian president has cast new scrutiny over Trump's previous calls with other world leaders.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c59676174c5875661547ef7-1334-667.jpg


[29-Sep-19 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[29-Sep-19 10:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/white-house-hide-memo-trump-meeting-russia-sergei-lavrov-robert-mueller.html

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Did the White House Hide a Bombshell Memo From Mueller?
The Washington Post reports on a memorandum summarizing a meeting between Trump and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
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[29-Sep-19 10:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[29-Sep-19 10:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Mueller said he couldn't conclude on collusion because so much obstruction happened that he couldn't do his job, so yes they did that


[29-Sep-19 10:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One of the few times a headline asks a question and the answer is *yes*


[29-Sep-19 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/los-angeles-police-recruitment-ad-breitbart-prompts-inquiry-n1060026

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Los Angeles police recruitment ad on Breitbart prompts inquiry
Chief Michel Moore said the ad placement was being investigated.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_02/2712066/190110-la-police-headquarters-west-1st-ac-1140p_81d27ceb43ab431bd0c31fa6edbad7dc.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[29-Sep-19 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
> The Los Angeles Police Department was trying to figure out Saturday how one of its ads for new recruits ended up on right-wing news site Breitbart.


[29-Sep-19 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[29-Sep-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/mick-mulvaney-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/28/politics/mick-mulvaney-impeachment-inquiry-donald-trump/index.html
Mulvaney on shaky ground in wake of whistleblower fallout, sources say
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney is on shaky ground in the wake of a bad week for President Trump, according to multiple sources with knowledge of discussions surrounding the whistleblower fallout.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/181214165942-mick-mulvaney-0120-super-tease.jpg


[29-Sep-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney is on shaky ground in the wake of a bad week for President Trump, according to multiple sources with knowledge of discussions surrounding the whistleblower fallout.


[29-Sep-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
> The sources say the President is not upset with Mulvaney for the White House releasing the summary of his July 25 call with Ukraine's leader or the whistleblower complaint because he had been convinced that it was necessary.
> 
> What Trump and other aides are frustrated with, according to the sources, is that Mulvaney did not have a strategy for defending and explaining the contents of those documents as soon as they were publicly released.


[29-Sep-19 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the cabinet and trump are frustrated that he's not making up effective defense plans for every time trump goes full retard


[29-Sep-19 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that trump goes full retard every other day, so even stonewall himself would be overwhelmed with the task


[29-Sep-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that I wouldn't even consider this news if it weren't trump


[29-Sep-19 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
like this is tabloid-level shit, but the problem is that trump has normalized what used to be considered tabloid-level shit to the point that it's hard to tell what's real and what's not anymore


[29-Sep-19 11:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile my conservative friends are saying that we've been grasping at straws for 2 years


[29-Sep-19 11:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a level of delusion I don't have the energy to try and work around 'cause I know just inundating them with facts backfires


[29-Sep-19 11:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I don't really know what to do. Assuming none of these accusations are true, including obstruction, ask them what obstruction of justice would look like?


[29-Sep-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the phrase "nothing burger" is brought up regularly with republican supporters


[29-Sep-19 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The democrats are dellusional and have Trump derrangement syndrome"


[29-Sep-19 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Presents audio evidence* "Trump is right, we should kill the whistle blower for being a dirty traitor!"


[29-Sep-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dread


[29-Sep-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mostly because this reeks of my homeland's recent corruption scandals within the justice system as exposed by The Intercept


[29-Sep-19 03:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sérgio Moro keeps deflecting accusations made against him, focusing not on the content of the Intercept leaks, but on the fact that they were leaked. It's fucking insane.


[29-Sep-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Meanwhile Trump goes full retard and attacks the whistle blower instead of focusing on the content of the call and then lashes out at his staff when they aren't prepared to defend his retard moments because There's no warning signs, Trump just does things because they sound good in theory but he never thinks things through before hand


[29-Sep-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Borris johnson meanwhile basically told parliament and all it;s freinds and family "Get with brexit or you might end up like jo cox"


[29-Sep-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can see Trump trying to fire atleast 4 people over this in the coming weeks, and then being told he can;t fire those people because it would interfere with the trial


[29-Sep-19 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1178294977895522304

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Houthis have now released visuals of (alleged) captured Saudi Coalition soldiers and military vehicles. Some vehicles were torched. Houthis claim to have killed and wounded over 500 soldiers + captured over 2000. Insane. #Yemen 

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[29-Sep-19 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow


[29-Sep-19 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
dab on them Sauds


[29-Sep-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ukraine-call-abuse-power-former-security-officials-statement-2019-9

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ukraine-call-abuse-power-former-security-officials-statement-2019-9
About 300 former national security officials and ex-White House st...
The statement was signed by former officers, ambassadors, and secretaries of state from leading agencies including the CIA and the State Department.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d8df7682e22af713412de4c-2732-1366.jpg


[29-Sep-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
"Sounds like a big nothingberder to me"


[29-Sep-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Fox: "These were just bitter fired employees"


[29-Sep-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump:"Every one of these ex employees was a spy and should be executed as a traitor"


[29-Sep-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"WITCH HUNT FAKE NEWS DANCE QUEEN SAVAGE"


[29-Sep-19 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-former-adviser-slammed-giuliani-debunked-conspiracy-theories-2019-9

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Trump's former adviser slammed Giuliani for echoing 'completely de...
Bossert slammed Trump and his longtime lawyer Rudy Giuliani's repeated echoing of debunked conspiracy theories about the 2016 presidential election.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d90bddd2e22af3874044b63-960-480.jpg


[29-Sep-19 06:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump-impeachment-fight/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump-impeachment-fight/index.html
Lewandowski may lead White House impeachment team
Corey Lewandowski, the political operative who helped elect Donald Trump, has had conversations with White House officials in recent days about potentially taking a position inside the administration to help the President confront a looming impeachment fight.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190815114830-01-corey-lewandowski-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[29-Sep-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
It'd be like bringing a banana to a gun fight


[29-Sep-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You say that, but these are democrats in elected positions, they see anything that looks remotely threatening to their reelection and they collapse


[29-Sep-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-nam-accidental-assassin-thought-youtube-star-2019-9

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A woman who unwittingly helped assassinate Kim Jong Un’s half-br...
Siti Aisyah, who lives in rural Indonesia, described being tricked into one of history's strangest assassinations, which could have left her dead too.
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[29-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/patricio-manuel-the-first-transgender-pro-boxer-represents-everlast.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/patricio-manuel-the-first-transgender-pro-boxer-represents-everlast.html
The world's first transgender pro boxer is now the face of iconic ...
On Dec. 12, 2018, Patricio Manuel made history, becoming the first transgender boxer to have a professional fight. On Sept. 26, he made history again when he was named the face of the iconic boxing brand Everlast. But the road to getting there wasn't easy, and Manuel had to r...
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106146148-1569607343716preview-1.jpg?v=1569608783


[29-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/turkish-scientist-gets-15-month-sentence-publishing-environmental-study

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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/turkish-scientist-gets-15-month-sentence-publishing-environmental-study
Turkish scientist gets 15-month sentence for publishing environmen...
Bülent Şık went to a newspaper after the government sat on a study of a cancer cluster in polluted region
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/river_1280p.jpg?itok=s-mkQvNB


[29-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
🦃


[29-Sep-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, that wasn't supposed to be an icon...


[29-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if you could get thrown in jail for criticizing George Washington


[29-Sep-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the equivalent of a law Turkey has and the like of country they are


[29-Sep-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mustafa Kemal was a complete and utter **nice person**


[29-Sep-19 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I fucking **like** his ass


[29-Sep-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ataturk! Good job!


[29-Sep-19 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God why must the Turkish government be so damn **acceptable :)**


[29-Sep-19 08:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-realtor-attack-arrest

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Man arrested in connection with California realtor attack, 2 other...
A man described as a "person of interest" has been detained in connection with the violent attack on a real estate agent in southern California over the weekend as two more women have emerged with disturbing accounts of similar encounters.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/09/24/694940094001_6089000647001_6088998125001-vs.jpg


[29-Sep-19 08:09 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-Sep-19 08:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
The English died with the end of the Commons, and since forth they have only been the Perfidious (((Anglo)))


[29-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Litrojia#0612
>A woman who unwittingly helped assassinate Kim Jong Un’s half-brother...


[29-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Litrojia#0612
it's just a prank bro


[29-Sep-19 08:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/us/south-carolina-boy-200-miles-snapchat/index.html

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An 11-year-old South Carolina boy drove 200 miles to live with a s...
An 11-year-old boy drove 200 miles across South Carolina to meet a stranger he knew only on Snapchat, the Charleston Police Department said.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190925012624-south-carolina-boy-200-miles-snapchat-super-tease.jpg


[29-Sep-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
See everyone's worried about the 11-year-old, but I think someone should point out that you do not fukk with an 11-year-old that will drive 200 miles on a whim.


[29-Sep-19 08:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/meghan-mccain-testy-audience

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Meghan McCain gets testy with 'The View' audience while debating i...
"The View" co-host Meghan McCain clashed not only with her co-hosts but with the audience as well during Tuesday's show.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/09/Meghan-McCain-GettyImages-1142131037.jpg


[29-Sep-19 08:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://io9.gizmodo.com/u-s-military-issues-warning-to-troops-about-incel-viol-1838412331

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U.S. Military Issues Warning to Troops About Incel Violence at Jok...
The U.S. military has warned service members about the potential for a mass shooter at screenings of the Warner Bros. film Joker, which has sparked wide concerns from, among others, the families of those killed during the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
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[29-Sep-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Both old news


[29-Sep-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meghan also has been notably a bitch. Angry more because apperantly she can't articulate her own thoughts. So she straight up fights herself.


[29-Sep-19 08:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-sleeps-at-trumps-un-speech.html

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Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross falls asleep at United Nations duri...
The 81-year-old Commerce secretary took a nap — a very long nap — as his boss President Donald Trump addressed the U.N. General Assembly.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106146168-1569335627605preview.jpg?v=1569335743


[29-Sep-19 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
oops


[29-Sep-19 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someone's getting fired


[29-Sep-19 09:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-09-24/trump-administration-epa-california-highway-funding-clean-air-act-failure

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EPA threatens to cut California's highway funding over Clean Air A...
EPA's Andrew Wheeler wrote to the California Air Resources Board that the state had “ failed to carry out its most basic tasks under the Clean Air Act.”
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[29-Sep-19 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ah yes, all those horrible pollutants caused by [throws dart] homeless people


[29-Sep-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/shipping-pollution-sea-open-loop-scrubber-carbon-dioxide-environment-a9123181.html

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Thousands of ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poiso...
Experts say this could have a devastating effect on wildlife
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[29-Sep-19 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so this is the volkswagen scandal, but bigger?


[29-Sep-19 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
except that this is some kinda legal loophole?


[29-Sep-19 09:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I would have thought it was obvious with stats saying they can go around the world with less pollution than a car driving across US.


[29-Sep-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Who would have thought: skimping on pollution control but making it look like you are abiding while not, all in the name of improving the bottom line.


[30-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-biden-digenova-toensing-ukraine-2019-9

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Trump reportedly worked with 2 'off the books' lawyers to pressure...
Fox News' Chris Wallace reports that Trump worked "off the books" with two lawyers, Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing, to pressure Ukraine.
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[30-Sep-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/schiff-whistleblower-testimony-ukraine-8e18fc0d-053e-4658-9df5-353a63a276e9.html

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Schiff says House Intelligence has reached agreement for whistlebl...
"We'll get the unfiltered testimony of that whistleblower."
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[30-Sep-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-says-he-wont-cooperate-adam-schiff-led-ukraine-investigation-1461955

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Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said he won't cooperate with Ukraine ...
Giuliani said if Schiff is removed and a "neutral person" is put in his place as chairman of the House committee, then he may consider cooperating with Congress.
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[30-Sep-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Cool, enjoy going to jail


[30-Sep-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But muh hearsay


[30-Sep-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
If this guy can be a lawyer, and Ben Carson can be a doctor, then I really worry for this country


[30-Sep-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But muh egyptian grain silos!


[30-Sep-19 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
It goes deeper https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/report-rudy-giuliani-worked-with-fox-news-legal-guests-on-secret-project-to-dig-up-ukraine-dirt-on-joe-biden/

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Report: Rudy Giuliani Worked With Fox News Legal Guests on Secret ...
Rudy Giuliani reportedly worked with a high-profile legal guest and commentator for Fox News in an effort to obtain damaging information on Joe Biden related to the work done by the former vice president's son in the Ukraine.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/rudy-via-fox-news-screengrab-e1546523229207.jpg


[30-Sep-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man and to think Watergate was just "yeah break in I want you to" and a coverup


[30-Sep-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Wtf is wrong with this administration


[30-Sep-19 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Watergate was also only discovered because a janitor kept finding a piece of tape


[30-Sep-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Why is Trump's personal lawyer, a man who is not even employed by the government, negotiating foreign affairs


[30-Sep-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part


[30-Sep-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon would have easily won in 1972 without cheating


[30-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is operating the gov't like his businesses, byte


[30-Sep-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
he has done this from the start


[30-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has been plain as day


[30-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
this should not be the least bit surprising.


[30-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way Trump got ahead and stayed ahead in business was by blatant corruption that moved faster than it could be caught


[30-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
By having bakkdoor sources of legal protection constantly at the ready to ward off any allegations about his wrongdoing.


[30-Sep-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the behavior our system rewards.


[30-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as I've said before


[30-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
cheats can't stop cheating


[30-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they win by cheating even when not necessary


[30-Sep-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause any surprise event can make cheating necessary


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a losing strategy to only cheat when it will probably matter.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a winning strategy to always cheat...until you get caught.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon had no real competition in 1972; and Biden was falling apart without Ukraine accusations.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a LOSING STRATEGY to stop cheating.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some opponent could've come out of nowhere and beat Nixon.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has literally nothing against Warren but calling her Pocahontas.


[30-Sep-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or he could've won by less and it marred the Republicans' later ability to win.


[30-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize we are not in the world of goodness where this is unusual


[30-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
where it's illogical to cheat when you don't need to


[30-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real life is not a superhero comic where once in a while you've got to break your noble rules to win


[30-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a big pile of shit where corrupt systems hav made it so you can lose randomly to a big cheater


[30-Sep-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We *bred* this behavior.


[30-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon and Trump's behavior is that of a winner in American politics.


[30-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scummy, cheaty, treasonous


[30-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ridiculous to not understand why.


[30-Sep-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The systems are right in front of your face operating.


[30-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like asking why the boat made out of petrified swiss cheese is sinking.


[30-Sep-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
BECAUSE IT HAS HOLES IN IT


[30-Sep-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not get a moral, honest president while you hav a corrupt executive that constantly refuses to charge people for bad behavior, billionnaires having leverage over the oversight mechanisms that barely exist, nearly no whistleblower protections, and a whole desired economic system based on cheating.


[30-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, @Itsthinking


[30-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon **committed treason**


[30-Sep-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ **knew**


[30-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ decided to not pursue it because he believed it would just hurt the unity of the American people to know they elected a traitor.


[30-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Vietnam War expansion thing? Refusing a treaty?


[30-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had people claim that the US was being dishonest in treaty negotations that were in part helped along by the guy he was running against.


[30-Sep-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I legitimately fear for the safety of this whistleblower


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sabotaging the negotations, which led to their breakdown days before the election.


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the fact that he got it secondhand is irrelevant when it has been corrobrated


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This caused a swing of public support to Nixon, believing that negotiating was fruitless.


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon then proceeded later to implement the guy's plan anyways


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it worked


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he got credit for it.


[30-Sep-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon committed treason to undercut a good idea to steal it, causing people to be killed.


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ let him do it because to do otherwise would mean Americans would distrust the gov't.


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We should have refused his resignation


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about that for a minute.


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Demanded a trial and removal


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon should've been literally hung.


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not hyperbole, that would be the actual punishment normally.


[30-Sep-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time.


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, or electric chair.


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you can refuse the president's resignation...


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not? Had never happened before


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A person running for president committed capital offenses.


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And was spared any prosecution for such


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the political establishment believed it was better to lie and cover it up so that Americans would keep listening to its propaganda.


[30-Sep-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our system is massively corrupt.


[30-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That war that Nixon sabotaged peace talks for was started over a faked incident.


[30-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corruption is like, half of how American politics actually work.


[30-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think enough Republicans would vote for removal honestly


[30-Sep-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asking "why would Nixon cheat" is missing the entire forest around you as you investigate why a bird would poop on a tree.


[30-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What will be Trump's "Why didn't you burn the tapes?"


[30-Sep-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why didn't you fire Rudy?"


[30-Sep-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
why wasn't rudy working for the white house


[30-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll probably just be "Why did you codeword-protect what everyone in the WH already knew?"


[30-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause do note


[30-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
the codeword-level protection of stuff that is not sensitive to national security


[30-Sep-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
is **as big an offense** as extorting a foreign gov't this way


[30-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it just got out anyways.


[30-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And according to the whistleblower, this is *common practice* with Trump.


[30-Sep-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is blatantly breaking the law regularly.


[30-Sep-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
As with Nixon, the coverup makes it far worse.


[30-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Remember Nixon's approval rating even of the month of his resignation was still 50%


[30-Sep-19 12:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
look it up


[30-Sep-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's amazing how much of the country is okay with blatant corruption.


[30-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He did this same Ukraine cover up shit with Russia and the Saudis too


[30-Sep-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Making them classified for no reason but politics


[30-Sep-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Nixon owned the hippies like Trump owned the libs


[30-Sep-19 01:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
fun fact Nixon once met Trump in the 70s and was one of the first to make mention that Trump seemed like the type of person that would someday go into politics.


[30-Sep-19 02:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178055467987275776?s=20

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They are trying to stop ME, because I am fighting for YOU! https://t.co/xiw4jtjkNl
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[30-Sep-19 02:36 AM] illumnious#7938
kill me


[30-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
later


[30-Sep-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFolNVJWwAASPST.jpg

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[30-Sep-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
crazy how nature do dat


[30-Sep-19 02:39 AM] illumnious#7938
accurate


[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
"scam"


[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
even if it was a scam


[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177669563477118976?s=20

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I AM DRAINING THE SWAMP! https://t.co/U7WxKrO6Kx
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[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
pretty sure it wouldn't be the biggest scam in the history of the US


[30-Sep-19 02:40 AM] illumnious#7938
yeah, it is


[30-Sep-19 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
By an order of magnitude, it looks like


[30-Sep-19 02:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if you were to factor in everyone currently going with the "don't confuse me with the facts" play to stay on Trump's side


[30-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ukraine fucking said they didn't care about the Bidens


[30-Sep-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like it wasn't on their radar at all


[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fun reminder: That quote came from the last die-hard supporter of Nixon the day before he resigned


[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump gets all of this conspiracy theory from John Solomon hit pieces.


[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] illumnious#7938
now this ad https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178285698111168512?s=20

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Will happen to all of those seeking unlawful impeachment in 50 Trump type Districts. We will win big! https://t.co/aX5l9WrP1z
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[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what does this even say


[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] illumnious#7938
petty politcs aside


[30-Sep-19 02:45 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1177687361808932865

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https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1177687361808932865
This is just the beginning of an all-out fight to defend our democracy & our president.

Dozens of House Dems campaigned on working with @realDonaldTrump, yet fell in line with Pelosi & the Squad.

Voters don't support this impeachment charade & it’s going to backfire co...
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[30-Sep-19 02:46 AM] illumnious#7938
here's the direct link


[30-Sep-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's about 50/50 split on impeachment


[30-Sep-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The really funny thing is, the choice *not* to impeach immediately *was* the political play. Everything surrounding Pelosi et al being reluctant to move forward on impeachment has been because the vote in the Senate is assumed to be an assured aquittal before, and regardless of, the facts, and the fear that doing so will cede Trump the victory in the upcoming election


[30-Sep-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The important thing is that Republican support went from around 3% to 12%


[30-Sep-19 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah, prior to this Pelosi's strategy, which was totally political, was "Keep him constantly investigated so he looks bad next year"


[30-Sep-19 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And now we've got the latest stab at Schiff being "he's not impartial, he's already said he wants to impeach so he can't be in charge of this..." may I present exhibit B, Mitch McConnell, whose only concession to the idea of impeachment being that if it passes the house he will be forced to hold a vote


[30-Sep-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My great fear is that he will try to hold a vote on a motion to dismiss the minute it shows up at the senate, out of order, before the rewritten articles of impeachment and evidence are presented


[30-Sep-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463580-trump-demands-to-meet-whistleblower-warns-of-big-consequences

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Trump demands to meet whistleblower, warns of 'Big Consequences'
President Trump on Sunday evening called for the outing of a whistleblower and railed against other individuals, including Rep.
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[30-Sep-19 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, whatever articles of impeachment get drawn up now do *not* have to be the ones the senate sees once the impeachment investigation is concluded


[30-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
he looks so stupid when he talks


[30-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
because his mouth always opens in a weird way


[30-Sep-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/LeeHolly81/status/1178305630295269376

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@realDonaldTrump WATCH: Stephen Miller REFUSES to answer why Trump used PRIVATE LAWYERS as his emissaries to the Ukrainian government?

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[30-Sep-19 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah but that's chris wallace


[30-Sep-19 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I highly doubt any Fox viewer would look at this and come away with anything other than "the situation is complicated, and RUDE loudmouth CHRIS WALLACE won't listen to the TRUTH"


[30-Sep-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
chris wallace is a lot like fox news's "black friend"


[30-Sep-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They have a few pet liberals.


[30-Sep-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's unfortunate that in a country that prides itself in keeping guns around so we can shoot traitors and foreign invaders, they're used for anything but


[30-Sep-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
MagpulPony is crazy


[30-Sep-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We are at a point where Trump can corroborate the 3 main aspects of the whistleblower complaint and it's still being treated like hearsay


[30-Sep-19 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which, of course, only works *if* your only source of information *is* hearsay


[30-Sep-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's one of the very very _very_ few conservatives in the hellthread that doesn't immediately resort to allcaps posting about SJWs and how every poster in the thread is directly responsible for when he stepped on a LEGO 3 years ago


[30-Sep-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd rather a thousand magpuls than another dullard like shirani


[30-Sep-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] Magpul is really more of your typical Second Ammendment enthusiast, which to be fair has itself degraded pretty far from what it was, notable was a Reagan-era ruling on what the Second defined per-say, and concluded it was a blanket individual right as opposed to a right applied to say, people in militias.


[30-Sep-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society

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[30-Sep-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which, maybe it's ironically a good idea if that happened, since who knows what a "regulated militia" would look like. It may de-fang far-right militias or not, while it's just more of an excuse to target Black Panthers


[30-Sep-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We live in a crater


[30-Sep-19 03:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So here's a fun interpretation: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." - if we work on the assumption that the amendment serves only to restrict federal power, wouldn't attempts to stymie gun regulation (that is, preventing bills that would ensure a properly functioning background check system) be considered an infraction against said "well regulated" militia?


[30-Sep-19 03:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
particularly if those regulatory systems were enacted at the state level


[30-Sep-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you look at like, the early drafts


[30-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was about states on down being able to form armies


[30-Sep-19 03:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
By and large the historical context for the ammendment is less to do with choking federal power by the citizens, that was what elections were force. Or at least elections would in theory let the accepted class of citizenry use the government for their own liberty. But per the amendment itself it can be seen as a compromise between the dueling factions of the young government; one that wanted a strong army for defense and the other that wanted a militia system like the War for Independence.


[30-Sep-19 03:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
The aim was to make a citizen's army not for threatening Revolution, but to shoot Europeans if they invaded.


[30-Sep-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it originally would've included a clause to allow for conscientious objection


[30-Sep-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They ended up not wanting to codify that I think mainly for simplicity


[30-Sep-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately they messed up in how it was worded, not having a clue that the future involved a large federal gov't with a large standing army


[30-Sep-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
imagine how much less imperialistic the US would've been if it had conscientious objection codified in its constitution


[30-Sep-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it was more that the militia system deteriorated over time.


[30-Sep-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
By the Civil War the army was still comprised of militia corps.


[30-Sep-19 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
But by World War One the Militia system was pretty much all dead in the water.


[30-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't've mattered much, Crow


[30-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real problem with imperialism is all about being able to choose who has rights and who doesn't.


[30-Sep-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is premised on having a protected elite with more rights exploiting some other group(s)


[30-Sep-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 2nd amendment should've focused on restricting the ability of the army


[30-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see the 3rd amendment, which basically doesn't matter)


[30-Sep-19 03:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZDjsKtBKBU

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[30-Sep-19 03:34 AM] illumnious#7938
that goes to tRump


[30-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nyc-bans-calling-someone-an-illegal-alien-of-out-hate/ar-AAHWq7m

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NYC bans calling someone an ‘illegal alien’ of out hate
A new NYC law says it's now illegal to call someone an "illegal alien" or threaten to report them to ICE, if motivated by hatred. A document shared on the nyc.gov reads that, “It is illegal for a person’s employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use d...


[30-Sep-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
'A document shared on the nyc.gov reads that, “It is illegal for a person’s employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use derogatory or offensive terms to intimidate, humiliate, or degrade people, including by using the term “illegal alien,” where its use is intended to demean, humiliate, or offend another person.”

Additionally, it reads, “It is illegal for employers to pay workers lower wages or no wages or threaten to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to harass, scare, or intimidate workers because of their immigration status.”'


[30-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tim being retarded as usual


[30-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that was quick. did you watch the video?


[30-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk no


[30-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The video's *title* is wrong.


[30-Sep-19 03:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then how do you know he's being retarded?


[30-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the video was accurate, the title would be different.


[30-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is misrepresenting what is going on.


[30-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a fine for using immigration status as an intimidation tactic when you are in a position of power


[30-Sep-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
specifically, you are a landlord, employer, or coworker


[30-Sep-19 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
It being Timcast and he releases so many videos so fast it's likely he doesn't do any actual research and just reads the news.


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
In that case just read the news


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a common thing for employers to go "well I'll call ICE, so accept this!"


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to further exploit immigrants.


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is NYC illegalizing that.


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I have never once seen a employer do that.


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling some random person on the street an illegal alien would not get you a fine.


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then clearly you must be white, Psker


[30-Sep-19 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because it's a thing that happens.


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a union blocking measure too.


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can't unionize if the workers are illegal and can be deported anyways irregardless of union status.


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I work at a place that has staff that is mostly Hispanic except for the management staff.


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
And back to a country notoriously hostile to any union not state-controlled.


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yeah, the staff was probably under threat too


[30-Sep-19 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
would you even know it to see it?


[30-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
uhhh, you didn't hear about that corporation that just straight up had all of its illegal workers (who the corporation bigwigs knew were illegal) deported to avoid paying out for a class-action lawsuit against them for unsafe working conditions?


[30-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Yes. I would.


[30-Sep-19 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or just brush it off as ha ha casual joke


[30-Sep-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
and then there was a thing where the corporation that owns 7-11 used ICE to bully and threaten owners into giving them a bigger percentage of the profit cuts


[30-Sep-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
the corporation called ICE to raid 7-11 stores that were suspected of hiring illegal immigrants


[30-Sep-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-11-09/7-eleven-is-at-war-with-its-own-franchisees-over-ice-raids


[30-Sep-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you may recall a similar thing happening on a larger scale at once in Missouri not too long ago, at a company that was recently facing a class action lawsuit on behalf of its workers. ICE conveniently showed up and conducted a raid, arresting many of the workers who stood to benefit


[30-Sep-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it."


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I should note


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
in employment law


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's already very illegal to like, make a hostile work environment based on race


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuuuut


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can go "STOP SPEAKING SPANISH YOU WETBAKKS"


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
because technically kinda sorta it's not directly about race


[30-Sep-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is NYC covering that.


[30-Sep-19 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr it's not necessary to watch a single tim pool video because the title alone is usually enough to destroy his argument


[30-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be somewhat fair, the title of most articles on it are making the same implicit lie


[30-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like, the actual text in question makes it very clear that it is such


[30-Sep-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clikkbait sensationalism.


[30-Sep-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what he's good for is taking that implicit lie and making it explicit


[30-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't wait for the day NYC makes it illegal to kinkshame your coworkers over like furry status, with a hefty fine, and then the right is talking shit about how YOU COULD GET ARRESTED FOR BEING ON A STREET CORNER SAYING THAT BESTIALITY IS A SIN


[30-Sep-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, it is already generally illegal to make a hostile work environment on the basis of sexuality, so they don't actually need to.


[30-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
which just makes it clear how ridiculous it'd be.


[30-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
have you seen otherkin's though?


[30-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't need to, what they are like does not matter for what is and isn't workplace harassment.


[30-Sep-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
and this is why the US libertarian party is bullshit, they care waaaay too much about what other people do to be considered libertarian


[30-Sep-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making people not want to work, or seek a raise, because they're different is wrong.


[30-Sep-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are certain basic protections workers need from their bosses and other workers.


[30-Sep-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Libertarians are violently against immigration for some reason


[30-Sep-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
... even though immigration and national identity laws are against the idea of "don't have laws"


[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
see https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-moderate-middle-is-a-myth/

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[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Graphs:


[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/drutman-middle-2.png?w=575

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[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/drutman-middle-4.png?w=575

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[30-Sep-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notice a pattern


[30-Sep-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is basically a political compass, looking at people who don't identify strongly with either party


[30-Sep-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a huge bulge of people who want immigrants and economic equality


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
OwO


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who don't want immigrants are about even between economic equality and capitalist hierarchy


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there is a dearth of people who want capitalist hierarchy and immigrants


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
AKA the theoretical realm of libertarians


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who want hierarchy don't want a better economy


[30-Sep-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want to put one group on top against others


[30-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
When people say they want deregulation


[30-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
what they actually mean


[30-Sep-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
is they want businesses to wield power to keep white people on top.


[30-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They *want* laws, in order to beat up non-whites only.


[30-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they hate is that the left would use the law to giv the wrong people rights.


[30-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Libertarians" are just the "religious freedom" nuts


[30-Sep-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
in the US, anyway


[30-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a society where the gov't exists solely to shoot brown people.


[30-Sep-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to keep brown people from stealing the resources all those "hard-working good lil' white boys" hav


[30-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile there are other conservatives who think that regulation has its place, and keeping brown people down should be *solely* the work of the gov't.


[30-Sep-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then there are liberals.


[30-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea of an actual square is a lie.


[30-Sep-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a triangle


[30-Sep-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a 10d hypersphere obviously


[30-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in the end really just range from Gandhi to Stalin to Hitler.


[30-Sep-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nader is just a different brand of Hitler.


[30-Sep-19 04:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/madanboukman/status/1178114392849879040

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[30-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie wait, like Ralph Nader


[30-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[30-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who was an election spoiler known for wanting seat belts in cars


[30-Sep-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like he was the only one saying that it was a good idea


[30-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Poor Ross Perot, if he ran a decade later he would have won.


[30-Sep-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess this elections version is Steyer.


[30-Sep-19 05:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw Magpul just posts a grab-bag of shitty quotes so I do the same with 2A drafts and related articles from the letters of secession the states gave to the King.


[30-Sep-19 05:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then in the way of digging I find out the first quote Mag uses is a big fake.


[30-Sep-19 05:14 AM] Mikey#7286
lol he's probably one of those people who fetishize guns


[30-Sep-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile, being the dirtbag commie I am

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[30-Sep-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pang pang


[30-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ngl, if I still lived in the US I'd probably own several rifles, just because I can, and if the moron redhat neighbor next to me can then like fuck am I going to lag behind...


[30-Sep-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is not exactly an endorsement of the state of things


[30-Sep-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
I bought mine for target shooting, and a side of home defense; which I don't intend to take seriously. The only time.it had bullets in it was when I was my mom's yesterday target shooting with her my stepdad this passed Saturday. Went through a hundred cheap bullets.


[30-Sep-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a defense for the defense bit, I live in a neighborhood which has had break-ins, if from dumb kids. And there was a methlab once down the street before I moved in.


[30-Sep-19 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise neighbors just sit on the porch and smoke weed in the last warm days until winter and they're not doing anything harmful


[30-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like a right rotten lot, puffing the devil's weed out in the open like it ain't no sin against the Lord


[30-Sep-19 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lol


[30-Sep-19 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good man would step up to that, put them in their place


[30-Sep-19 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it is legal in Michigan now


[30-Sep-19 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
So no one can do anything


[30-Sep-19 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Except the ATF


[30-Sep-19 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the ATF or the FBI is going to bust small users.


[30-Sep-19 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, not until someone needs to pad some stats for cheap, at least


[30-Sep-19 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
True. But that's what traffic fines are for.


[30-Sep-19 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Speaking of I realized that as a new way to hate cops. Just them being around you on the road if you're doing nothing raises the baseline anxiety through the roof


[30-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I remember a story about the ATF sending helicopters to find weed in the yards of little old ladies right before legalization in Michigan.


[30-Sep-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute waste of money.


[30-Sep-19 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just a few more years of this shit and I can buy a nice big apartment in the outskirts of a major spanish city and start a small pot farm...


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
I need to find a seco d job to put my finances back on track. Twenty hours is not a permanent fix.


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even though I love the time. I just don't got money.


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah...


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My job would let me take reduced hours


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hopefully I do well in my fire fighter interview and I get that.


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, reduced hours means reduced time


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And my rent sure as shit isn't getting reduced


[30-Sep-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Rent never goes down


[30-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Someone call Mao now


[30-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's real fun


[30-Sep-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I got a rent hike coming by the end of next month


[30-Sep-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Government recommends a cost of living pay increase every year of 1-2%


[30-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rent increases every year 5% at least


[30-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same for food and utilities


[30-Sep-19 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I could buy a good cut of beef for 5 euro/kilo 3 years ago


[30-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That same cut now is 12 euro/kilo


[30-Sep-19 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't affect _me_ that much, turkey's not increased as much and that's my main meat source these days


[30-Sep-19 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But still, seen it for other things, little by little over a few years until you realize almost everything is half as much over what it used to be while salaries are just a few percentage points more


[30-Sep-19 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Assuming you're lucky enough to work at a place that even listens to those salary increase recommendations, of course


[30-Sep-19 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plenty of people in places where they've kept the same salary for ten years and haven't asked or expected for more because they haven't climbed the ranks, don't realize the whole CoL thing, or don't want to bring attention to themselves and risk getting reduntanted


[30-Sep-19 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
alas, born too soon for the panacea, too late to partake in the inevitable revolution


[30-Sep-19 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or the reverse... the logic and linguistics are funny on that...


[30-Sep-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
I only ever got raises that barely kept my head above water. Not what I wanted when people tell me work gets better and more fulfilling as you get older.


[30-Sep-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh dude, it 100% does not get better or more fulfilling


[30-Sep-19 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You just get numb to it and learn to take every little victory and accomplishment as a big win


[30-Sep-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/GrbtLZE

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Proof of ban from r/sino
https://i.imgur.com/bYxOBSph.jpg


[30-Sep-19 09:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Jke4euu.png

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[30-Sep-19 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently /r/sino is just as censorship-happy as china is in real life


[30-Sep-19 10:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does reddit have a policy on how its subreddit moderators should behave?


[30-Sep-19 10:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49871909

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49871909
No reason to probe Bidens: Ukraine ex-prosecutor
Ukraine's ex-attorney general says there is no basis to investigate Mr Trump's rival Joe Biden.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07pnd9f.jpg


[30-Sep-19 10:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`"It is the jurisdiction of the US," he said, adding that any "possible embezzlement" at Burisma "happened two or three years before Hunter Biden became a member of the board".

Mr Lutsenko also said he had met Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who asked him if it was possible to investigate the Bidens in his country.

"I told him the same I told you - it is not my jurisdiction," he said. "It is likely to be the jurisdiction of the US. If you will send me a request, yes, I will give you all official information, but it is not Ukrainian jurisdiction - that was my answer."`


[30-Sep-19 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3my03ioio

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LegalEagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3my03ioio
Ukraine Whistleblower, Transcript, Complaint & Impeachment -- Real...
A CIA whistleblower alleges President Trump abused his office to get dirt on his main political rival. Legal Eagles get 2 months of unlimited learning on Ski...
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[30-Sep-19 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
legaleagle is obviously a liberal propaganda factory


[30-Sep-19 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
(my mom legit said that he was a liberal shill because he dared to talk about the mueller report at all when I sent her his video about the mueller report after it was released, even though the video itself was as about as neutral as you could possibly get)


[30-Sep-19 02:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/30/donald-trump-has-put-whistleblower-in-danger-lawyers-say-ukraine-impeachment

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Donald Trump has put whistleblower in danger, lawyers say
Whistleblower’s attorney says president’s demands to identify their client has prompted safety concerns
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[30-Sep-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
lol https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463592-gop-lawmaker-calls-out-trump-for-quoting-pastor-warning-of-civil-war

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GOP lawmaker blasts Trump for quoting pastor warning of civil war ...
Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.) on Sunday criticized President Trump for quoting a pastor saying impeachment could trigger a "Civil War-like fracture" in the country.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kinzingeradam_010317gn.jpg


[30-Sep-19 03:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being the federal agency tasked with keeping an _american citizen_ safe from _the president of the united states_


[30-Sep-19 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/utter-bullst-former-ambassador-to-ukraine-calls-out-trump-for-false-claim-about-bidens/

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Alberto Luperon
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/utter-bullst-former-ambassador-to-ukraine-calls-out-trump-for-false-claim-about-bidens/
‘Utter Bulls*t’: Former Ambassador to Ukraine Calls Out Trump ...
President Donald Trump faces impeachment calls for soliciting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to have former Vice President Joe Biden and son Hunter Biden investigated. The president keeps voicing the allegation against the Bidens, but he's getting pushback from S...
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[30-Sep-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-29/pelosi-tells-trump-to-not-make-impeachment-inquiry-any-worse


[30-Sep-19 03:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They already have the Christmas stuff out and Halloween has not even started. There should be a law keeping it back until at least November.


[30-Sep-19 04:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/nerdcity/status/1178455911251300357

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🤖NERD CITY💀 (@nerdcity)
https://twitter.com/nerdcity/status/1178455911251300357
Youtube won't tell us what causes demonetization.
So we showed 15,296 words to their bots, and built a list of what they hate.

https://t.co/LzzzvFlBjP

Share to help creators avoid yellow $ signs:
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Ft: @InternetsReal @sealow
@commentiquette @realRUS...
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[30-Sep-19 04:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Full: https://youtu.be/ll8zGaWhofU

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Nerd City
https://youtu.be/ll8zGaWhofU
Youtube's Biggest Lie
The secret list of words causing demonetization by Youtube bots. Ft. Internet Comment Etiquette, Rusty Cage Sponsor: http://skl.sh/nerdcity4 - 2 free months ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ll8zGaWhofU/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Sep-19 04:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Turns out YouTube/Google really hates gays


[30-Sep-19 04:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://fairtube.info/en/


[30-Sep-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, China hates gays


[30-Sep-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
China controls a lot of the ad revenue.


[30-Sep-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is exactly what happens when you allow opaque censorship.


[30-Sep-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some conservatives will always grab hold and use it to deny things against their tradition.


[30-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and YouTube hates the word "Ukraine"


[30-Sep-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be Russia's doing, most likely.


[30-Sep-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Does it all come crashing down at any point?


[30-Sep-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
The child sex rings created and enabled by billionaires and political operatives


[30-Sep-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
The rampant corruption and bribery of US politicians by the Russian and Chinese governments


[30-Sep-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
And the US megacorporations that are in turn, enabled in their bad behavior by those governments


[30-Sep-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm getting awfully demoralized and I suspect the answer is no


[30-Sep-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eventually they probably start cannibalizing eachother for profit, but other than that the only thing stopping anything is regulations that need to be passed


[30-Sep-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
That ship has sailed, the conglomerates are as conglomerated as they're going to get


[30-Sep-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with a system built on black mail is that everytime soemone gets caught theyt hrow like 20 other people under a bus to save their own asses


[30-Sep-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's pretty much how trump operates, he surrounds himself with people who have comitted crimes, so he can throw thme under the bus to draw attention from himself


[30-Sep-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue is since it;s global and everyone has nukes now, we can;t just force change at nuke point


[30-Sep-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-staff-warned-ukraine-conspiracy-was-false-ignored-2019-9

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Trump's own staff repeatedly warned him that his theory about Demo...
Trump's former homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert, and other officials said they warned the president about conspiracy theories that Ukraine hacked the 2016 election.
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[30-Sep-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trying-defend-trump-gop-leader-caught-guard-reality

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trying-defend-trump-gop-leader-caught-guard-reality
Trying to defend Trump, GOP leader caught off guard by reality
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy tried to defend Trump on 60 Minutes without familiarizing himself with relevant details. It didn't go well.
http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/styles/ratio--1_91-1--1200x630/public/04969229_0.jpg?itok=eZO4F1rl


[30-Sep-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
McCarthy, eh


[30-Sep-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
That's a familiar name


[30-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
McCawthy


[30-Sep-19 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[30-Sep-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
McCarthy is the name of an Irish house that rose to fortune by positioning itself during various conflicts to always benefit


[30-Sep-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You see it a lot in American politics because the McCarthys always had enuff food and money to get the hell out during the potato famine the British caused to become a disaster


[30-Sep-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And promptly put to work their family knowledge in rising to power in America via various political machines.


[30-Sep-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically what you're seeing are the 10-generation effects of English systems of shittiness teaching people how to become shitty politicians that exploit the poor around them to rise above.


[30-Sep-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh woooow https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1178459915695935489

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60 Minutes (@60Minutes)
https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1178459915695935489
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said the president did nothing impeachable. “I see two leaders having admiration, not intimidation,” he tells Scott Pelley about President Trump’s phone call with President Zelensky https://t.co/68FhBmgQsJ https://t.co/sKrdQSalfh
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[30-Sep-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The video is sooooo bad


[30-Sep-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kevin lost the debate, and it was an interview.


[30-Sep-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the tl;dw is:


[30-Sep-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
```60 minutes host: Here's what's in the transcript.
Kevin: WHAT NO IT IS NOT
60 minutes host: I'm quoting the transcript. How will Trump defend this?
Kevin: <Talking points from the email that went out to too many congressmen as a dodge>
60 minutes host: How will Trump defend this?
Kevin: <More talking point dodge>
60 minutes host: Those are talking points that got sent out, not an answer to my question.
Kevin: What talking points? I don't know about any talking points!```


[30-Sep-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[30-Sep-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump supposedly isn't taking the inquiry seriously despite people begging for him to do so @Nebbie


[30-Sep-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it's people like McCarthy convincing him?


[30-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
McCarthy couldn't convince a cactus to be prikkly.


[30-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he did seem perplexed that the host was asking about defending Trump


[30-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's the one stupid bit I left out of the summary


[30-Sep-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Defend against what?"


[30-Sep-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
60 Minutes be like: ...impeachment...you know, impeachment proceedings.


[30-Sep-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So people are ignoring that this happened with Russia and Saudi Arabia too right


[30-Sep-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that Putin has said multiple times he doesn't want the transcripts out


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and by the way the whistle blower has a bounty on his head


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"bounty"


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, about public arguments


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Whistleblower will say who gave the information to him


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
One strong point > many weak ones


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
every weak point diminishes your argument


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arguments are like a chain, one weak link and people break them


[30-Sep-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho that's illogical.


[30-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
People are stupid.


[30-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you drag in Putin and Saudi Arabia in on this, it weakens the impeachment argument.


[30-Sep-19 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah


[30-Sep-19 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/30/trump-is-cornered-his-civil-war-threat-stinks-panic/

I don't agree with this opinion. I don't think he's panicking, just confused that his tactics aren't working the way he thought, and trying to throw more stuff at the wall to see what sticks


[30-Sep-19 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
He's definitely getting his base to arms, that's for sure


[30-Sep-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463684-hillary-clinton-trolls-trump-after-report-state-dept-intensifies

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Hillary Clinton trolls Trump after report of State Dept probe into...
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton trolled President Trump on Monday over a report that the State Department has intensified a probe into her private email server while House Democrats open an official impeach
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[30-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's confusion that it isn't dropping right away yeah


[30-Sep-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463687-trump-white-house-trying-to-find-out-whistleblowers-identity

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Trump: White House 'trying to find out' whistleblower's identity
President Trump said Monday that the White House is “trying to find out” the identity of the intelligence community whistleblower who filed a complaint about the president’s interaction with Ukraine.
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[30-Sep-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone announced a bounty for the whistleblower and the whistleblower is in protection right now

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[30-Sep-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
So that's fun


[30-Sep-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine you, a US citizen, having to be protected from the president of the US, by the government

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[30-Sep-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Wack


[30-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Whistleblower had people report to them


[30-Sep-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get why it's an issue especially once corrobrated


[30-Sep-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially because it's being used as part of the investigation, not trial


[30-Sep-19 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Being forcibly resigned over twitter tends to lead to feelings of bitterness https://apnews.com/575d6c672e52429caae6ee8e0460f55a

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Bolton critical of North Korea in first speech since ouster
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former national security adviser John Bolton gave a characteristically pessimistic outlook on the prospects for getting North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons as he made his...
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[30-Sep-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
:oof:
:oof2:


[30-Sep-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
We almost need a stronger oof just for this channel, sheesh.


[30-Sep-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
"You're the puppet" https://www.newsweek.com/russia-trump-putin-call-transcripts-allow-1462156

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Russia says Donald Trump cannot release Vladimir Putin call transc...
"Overall, the diplomatic practice does not include such publications," Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said. "However, should there be any signals from Americans, we will discuss them."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1531817/russia-president-vladimir-putin-donald-trump.jpg


[30-Sep-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being so obviously a Russian plant


[30-Sep-19 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://t.co/8MRYBAMP4p?amp=1

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theleftwind
https://t.co/8MRYBAMP4p?amp=1
Taking Stock, Settling Accounts: Coming to Terms with Stalinism
by Avery Minnelli I have written at some length about my experience as a member of Workers World Party, which I left due to the organization’s flawed political practice. What I’ve said less about i…
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[30-Sep-19 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFpV3-CVAAAHTrl?format=jpg&name=small

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[30-Sep-19 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1178745390725812224

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Edward Snowden (@Snowden)
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1178745390725812224
can you believe that the president will criticize you for exposing their wrongdoing whether or not you "followed proper channels" 

i mean gosh it's almost as if their concern was never about the law so much as suppressing credible reports of unethical activities can you i...
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[30-Sep-19 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/30/trumps-highly-selective-concern-about-corruption-ukraine/


[30-Sep-19 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/463703-house-subpoenas-giuliani-for-ukraine-documents#

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House Democrats subpoena Giuliani for Ukraine documents
House Democrats on Monday subpoenaed President Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, as part of their investigation into the president's effort to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his
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[30-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/463709-trump-asked-australian-leader-to-help-look-into-mueller#

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Trump asked Australian leader to help look into Mueller probe's or...
President Trump pressed the Australian prime minister to assist Attorney General William Barr obtain information about the Russia probe's origins in a recent phone call, The New York Times
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_09292019_1.jpg


[30-Sep-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God it just never stopped


[30-Sep-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fucking christ


[30-Sep-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/trump-tax-whistleblower-irs_n_5d8bafc6e4b08f48f4ae8978

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Donald Trump Actually Has 2 Whistleblowers To Worry About
Don't forget the whistleblower alleging possible interference with the IRS audit of the president's tax returns.
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[30-Sep-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
It never stops


[30-Sep-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Always cheat.


[30-Sep-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking What's the word, when you plan and execute a series of crimes?


[30-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
You lose anyways if you stop cheating.


[30-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conspiracy


[30-Sep-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to keep cheating to even hope of winning, but then once caught, you may be stopped.


[30-Sep-19 10:59 PM] Best Pony#4669
@byte[] a crime spree


[30-Sep-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Conspiracy


[30-Sep-19 11:03 PM] Best Pony#4669
technically conspiracy in law means making an agreement with another person to commit 1 crime


[30-Sep-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[30-Sep-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conspiracy in the law means you make an agreement with at least one other person to do something that may reasonably involve at least one crime, and undertake any action to carry it out.


[30-Sep-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav to actually do the crime, or necessarily agree on a crime to commit, but merely be agreeing to do something that's gonna involve crime to accomplish.


[30-Sep-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could be agreeing to "make someone rich by whatever means necessary", knowing that this may involve murder, and then that's conspiracy.


[30-Sep-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy makes some food points but I'm sorry I can't help but think of meme potential here


[30-Sep-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/co/1569873283415.jpg

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[30-Sep-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
it is a meme


[30-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And here


[30-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/co/1569872794233.jpg

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[30-Sep-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/co/1569873218185.jpg

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[30-Sep-19 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, have you read this? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
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[30-Sep-19 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
`There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. The idea of voting with your dollar effectively makes the sins of the ruling class the responsibility of the working class.`


[30-Sep-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
reminds me of that "yet you participate in society" comic


[30-Sep-19 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[30-Sep-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/627705159224393749/Mister_Gotcha.png

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[30-Sep-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
<https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha>


[30-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-Sep-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I like this guy's style


[01-Oct-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
art-wise, yeah, but his points stick about as well as a rubber biscuit


[01-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every comic is so dense and smart


[01-Oct-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There always seems to be just one tiny bit of context that only makes sense if you already believe what this guy does


[01-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(ignoring that cheese filled lumpias are a thing, but it's like an "authentic American restaurant" opening with mozzarella sticks from what I gather)


[01-Oct-19 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iow, I don't think josh is gonna make a convert out of anyone


[01-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah he went out of his way to burn bridges and accuse the publisher of racism


[01-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This channel is really frustrating me on using the new oof emote because EVERYTHING HERE is oof


[01-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Publisher said something like "These are way too negative to sell" and he got mad and pointed out they sell a similar comic by an Iranian that made people mad


[01-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine telling a Roman Senator that in 2070 years the news of the day wouldn't be Caesar crossing the Rubicon, but literally every politician you can name screwing up, and almost everyone of note being an idiot.


[01-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they like, ask whether Trump has any legions with him and you tell him that even his own servants don't follow his orders.


[01-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But somehow he's in control, technically, sorta, kinda.


[01-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Laughed at this one tho @WingbeatPony


[01-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[01-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I showed my mom the pdf with the "I would like you to do us a favor though", she says it isn't quid pro quo because trump didn't explicitly say that he would continue giving military aid only in return for investigating biden and his son


[01-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blood that spells words midair is a hell of a superpower.


[01-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I get the message but I'd totally want to be Ryu


[01-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-content-standards-politicians-exemption-dave-willner/

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Former Facebook Standards Guru Decries Political Exemptions
Dave Willner helped put together Facebook's content standards over a decade ago. He's not happy with the company's exceptions for politicians.
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[01-Oct-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey what was that thing about a twitter AI not being able to distinguish between hate speech and GOP politicans' tweets


[01-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xgq5/why-wont-twitter-treat-white-supremacy-like-isis-because-it-would-mean-banning-some-republican-politicians-too

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Twitter Won't Treat White Supremacy Like ISIS Because It'd Have to...
A Twitter employee who works on machine learning believes that a proactive, algorithmic solution to white supremacy would also catch Republican politicians.
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[01-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
'At a Twitter all-hands meeting on March 22, an employee asked a blunt question: Twitter has largely eradicated Islamic State propaganda off its platform. Why can’t it do the same for white supremacist content?

An executive responded by explaining that Twitter follows the law, and a technical employee who works on machine learning and artificial intelligence issues went up to the mic to add some context. (As Motherboard has previously reported, algorithms are the next great hope for platforms trying to moderate the posts of their hundreds of millions, or billions, of users.)

With every sort of content filter, there is a tradeoff, he explained. When a platform aggressively enforces against ISIS content, for instance, it can also flag innocent accounts as well, such as Arabic language broadcasters. Society, in general, accepts the benefit of banning ISIS for inconveniencing some others, he said.

In separate discussions verified by Motherboard, that employee said Twitter hasn’t taken the same aggressive approach to white supremacist content because the collateral accounts that are impacted can, in some instances, be Republican politicians.'


[01-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
To emphasize and condense slightly, Wing


[01-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they said was


[01-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a problem to stop people from speaking Arabic by banning anything resembling terrorist communications


[01-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it would be a problem to stop the GOP talking about how blakks hav higher crime rates by banning things that strongly resemble racist remarks.


[01-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And these are how it works in practice.


[01-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twitter's A-okay with like, banning Al Jazeera because it thinks they could be terrorists when they're reporting the news in their native language.


[01-Oct-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
somehow this is worse


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
very worse.


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how the NSA's own tool would misidentify Al Jazeera journalists as terrorists to send drone strikes after?


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same principle


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you apply machine learning, it finds association


[01-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't find context


[01-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Twitter and the NSA are doing their thing to stop ISIS, what they really do is guilt by association


[01-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the West is okay with this


[01-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
because killing brown people and suppressing their language are goals we identify as not a big problem.


[01-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] @Nebbie, isn't there a godfather scene that mimics the whole "I have done many things for you. I now have need of a favor." thing that's blatant in the phone call "transcript"?


[01-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you so much as think about killing white people or suppressing their speech even when they are clearly about to murder, it's treated as the worst thing in the world.


[01-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure, I havn't really seen those movies in full.


[01-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
my mom likes the godfather movie series, wanted to send a clip that mimics the transcript


[01-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, Freedom of Speech/Expression and Freedom of Association only exist for Americans in the realm of companies and the law.


[01-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I was never into The Godfather.


[01-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
there was a gif posted sometime in the past few weeks that had trump as the godfather


[01-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/LarryNoble_DC/status/1176980507667652608

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@SteveEngelberg For those who want a visual abridged summary, here's The Godfather IV. All dialogue is from the memo. https://t.co/ZViJvPuLYt
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[01-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(I have no idea why it says "Godfather IV" but there you go)


[01-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah, wait, 'cause this is the long-awaited sequel, riiight


[01-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's not what he wants


[01-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wants dialog from the Godfather put over Trump on the phone


[01-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that she recognizes an implied deal in the Godfather and relates it to the situation at hand


[01-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not Trump's actual dialog put over Godfather meetings, which would just be seen as unfairly applying Godfather stuff.


[01-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
no, I want a scene from the godfather directly, no edits


[01-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
basically, a whole lot of implications without directly saying anything


[01-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right, sneak it in.


[01-Oct-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Oct-19 12:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1178648079450464256

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https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1178648079450464256
Don’t forget that one of the talking points pushed by Russia’s troll farm was that there would be a civil war if Democrats tried to impeach Trump. An interesting coinkydink, right?

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[01-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow "my offer is nothing" might work


[01-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a scene where a Senator meets with Corleone and insults the guy


[01-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Corleone says "my offer is nothing" *and expects the senator to pay the license transfer fee himself*


[01-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in


[01-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
either giv it free cause of the insult, or there will be consequences


[01-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they giv him a scare with a dead prostitute and get him to play ball


[01-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's still kind of hard to tie in


[01-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact is Trump is more a blithering moron than a Godfather.


[01-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He makes stuff *less* implicit and easier to notice


[01-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and often can't follow thru on threats


[01-Oct-19 01:04 AM] illumnious#7938
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[YTP] Donald and His Minions
These are the faces of evil...
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[01-Oct-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/30/rnc-solicited-money-trumps-reelection-with-forms-that-look-lot-like-official-census/


[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/09/trump-impeachment-hearsay/

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Can A President Be Impeached On ‘Hearsay’ Evidence?
Please enjoy this lesson on Hearsay 101.
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[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't exactly old news


[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tldr it's hearsay but usable


[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People get indicted off of hearsay all the time


[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463726-barr-sought-help-from-foreign-intel-officials-for-inquiry-of-mueller

Oh my god it just keeps coming and coming

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Attorney General William Barr has requested assistance from foreign intelligence officials as part of a Department of Justice (DOJ) inquiry into U.S.
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[01-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
there have been a few articles that have popped up over the past few years of republicans using what looks like official census forms to solicit money


[01-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course it was Italy.


[01-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Uhhh, didn't Barr and Giuliani just go to Italy


[01-Oct-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/30/why-giuliani-is-blaming-his-own-problems-george-soros/


[01-Oct-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
It's always the jews


[01-Oct-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
🛬 🏛


[01-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
trump called epstein a "jew bastard" for raping a 13 year old virgin girl before him


[01-Oct-19 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know who else was just in Italy at the same time with them? Pompeo.


[01-Oct-19 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the man who but a week ago deflected questions about the call saying he'd just gotten the report but now turns out to have been listening in on the call


[01-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
I just had a thought, how is accidental pregnancy handled by prostitutes in countries where prostitution is legal (like new zealand and the netherlands)


[01-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pretty sure those are countries where you can get abortions in ambulatory clinics


[01-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
like would the father owe child support if the prostitute decided to keep the child?


[01-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, that


[01-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
dunno tbh


[01-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/463737-intel-community-watchdog-clarifies-processing-of-whistleblower

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[01-Oct-19 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The ICIG vs. the *Federalist.* Gee I wonder who'll win


[01-Oct-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
WaPo of earlier article https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html


[01-Oct-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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All Star but they don't stop coming pitch corrected
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[01-Oct-19 03:42 AM] illumnious#7938
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[01-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://au.news.yahoo.com/australian-pm-confirms-trump-asked-help-investigating-mueller-001358967--spt.html

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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has confirmed that US President Donald Trump asked him to help gather information for an inquiry into Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
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[01-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1177348904163192835

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC)
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Then why did you confess to it? https://t.co/Yu1vPC7YzI
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[01-Oct-19 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that comment section is a mess


[01-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
every single tweet she makes is absolutely inundated with conservatives


[01-Oct-19 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I can quote socrates, that means i'm smrt!"


[01-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That would be the most anti-socratic thing to say


[01-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's worth noting that the people claiming that the complaint is hearsay are wrong


[01-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if it is hearsay, exceptions apply.


[01-Oct-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house-aides-warn-trump-he-faces-impeachment

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White House aides warn Trump he is likely to be impeached
White House aides are reportedly advising President Trump that he faces the likelihood of being impeached.
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[01-Oct-19 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I guess he didn't hear enough of it from the media


[01-Oct-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Peru's president dissolved its congress


[01-Oct-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
It's now a dictatorship


[01-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
any reason why they did that?


[01-Oct-19 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/9/30/20869237/suits-control-menswear-decline

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The decline of the suit
The suit was once a requirement for every man. Now, people mostly wear suits when they’re in trouble.
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[01-Oct-19 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Is this a joke post


[01-Oct-19 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an interesting read


[01-Oct-19 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember hearing about how people who appear before courts in England and Ireland clip a powdered wig to their belt in case they need to go to court


[01-Oct-19 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A formality that is silly outside of the tradition within a single room, that might be where the suit as a whole is headed.


[01-Oct-19 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though for different reasons.


[01-Oct-19 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically suits got zucc'd


[01-Oct-19 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Well, if they do go, good riddance


[01-Oct-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
They're uncomfortable


[01-Oct-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be gone even from courtrooms I think.


[01-Oct-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the powdered wigs will be gone from England too.


[01-Oct-19 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even in the most elite law firms you don't wear a suit


[01-Oct-19 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least not the jacket


[01-Oct-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have a jacket and tie ready to go in case you need to go to court.


[01-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It being an "I'm sorry" uniform will hurt it more than any group tired of wearing it everyday.


[01-Oct-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
At any rate, fukk ties.


[01-Oct-19 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Oct-19 07:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
communist propaganda


[01-Oct-19 07:58 AM] byte[]#2610
socialist propaganda*


[01-Oct-19 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/climate-fight-must-be-sexy-fun-and-cool-says-young-minister-for-coal-dependent-japan-2019-09-23

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[01-Oct-19 02:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make an anime girl mascot.


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[01-Oct-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-veterans-react-barr-requests-foreign-officials-russia-probe-origins-2019-9

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[01-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/463804-graham-sending-letter-to-countries-asking-them-to-cooperate-with-barr

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Graham sending letter to countries asking them to cooperate with Barr
Sen.
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[01-Oct-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-allows-cop-castle-doctrine-212303550.html

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Judge Allows Cop to Use ‘Castle Doctrine’ Defense in Trial for...
The jury in the trial of Amber Guyger, a former Dallas police officer who is charged with murdering her neighbor in his apartment, can consider the "Castle Doctrine" as part of Guyger's defense, Judge Tammy Kemp ruled Monday, hours before final deliberations in the murder tri...
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[01-Oct-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She busted into another person's home, shot and killed themand thne she gets to use the castle doctrine despite it not being her fucking house


[01-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He actually posted it, https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178989254309011456

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[01-Oct-19 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
OK Mr. Trump


[01-Oct-19 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2018/10/francis-fukuyama-interview-socialism-ought-come-back

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Francis Fukuyama interview: “Socialism ought to come back”
History is having its revenge on Francis Fukuyama. In 1992, at the height of post-Cold War liberal exuberance, the American political theorist wrote in The End of History and the Last Man: “What we may be witnessing… is the end point of mankind’s ideological evolution a...
https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/homesection_image/public/blogs_2018/10/2018_42_obs_encounter.jpg?itok=6dwmBKZE


[01-Oct-19 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Fukuyama added, to my surprise: “At this juncture, it seems to me that certain things Karl Marx said are turning out to be true. He talked about the crisis of overproduction… that workers would be impoverished and there would be insufficient demand.”  Yet the only plausible systemic rival to liberal democracy, Fukuyama said, was not socialism but China’s state capitalist model.


[01-Oct-19 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
DENGIST FUKUYAMA


[01-Oct-19 06:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
DENGIST FUKUYAMA


[01-Oct-19 06:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
DENGIST FUKUYAMA


[01-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/dallas-police-officer-found-guilty-of-murder-in-the-fatal-shooting-of-neighbor-in-his-home/

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Dallas police officer found guilty of murder in the fatal shooting...
DALLAS (AP) —  A white former Dallas police officer has been found guilty of murder in the fatal shooting of her unarmed, black neighbor in...
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[01-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon big brain time


[01-Oct-19 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon's map looked the same


[01-Oct-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/10/01/pompeo-says-state-dept-officials-wont-show-up-for-scheduled-impeachment-depositions-this-week/


[01-Oct-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay, prepare to be subpoenaed


[01-Oct-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then prepare to be held in contempt when you start trying to reject those


[01-Oct-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because we;ve seen this like twice now, they;re going to try and be all "You don;t own us, these subpoenas mean nothing!"


[01-Oct-19 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
News reporting that Trump lied to Mueller under oath in written testimony


[01-Oct-19 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Unbelievably stupid


[01-Oct-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why his lawyers wouldn;t let him do it in person


[01-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Litrojia#0612
It's amazing how he has and probably will continue to get away with all of this


[01-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some Republicans holding him accountable


[01-Oct-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Like two or three publicly


[01-Oct-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not enough


[01-Oct-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
It should be all of them


[01-Oct-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Litrojia#0612
There's been countless reasons for impeachment at this point


[01-Oct-19 06:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I really doubt about combat activity... The times have changed.


[01-Oct-19 06:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Civil War will merely be an online affair, with very online posters on both sides going at each other.


[01-Oct-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There likely wouldn't be a civil war style divide, but there will probably be a slight uptick in terrorist threats from loyalists tot he king


[01-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The Online War


[01-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's at least six or seven Senate Republicans that would convict


[01-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Countless bans... No post spared...


[01-Oct-19 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meat paste paving every road... no wait, that's china


[01-Oct-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I say that but trump would probably be very willing to do soemthing liek that if he had the power


[01-Oct-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463801-gorka-travels-with-pompeo-on-trip-to-vatican

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Gorka travels with Pompeo on trip to Vatican
Former White House aide Sebastian Gorka is traveling with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on his trip to Europe.
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[01-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They say if a man claims that this isn't sketchy he is either lying or is Gorka.


[01-Oct-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1179012252357320705


[01-Oct-19 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
resist


[01-Oct-19 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta love how thisis what taxes are spent on

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[01-Oct-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But medicare for all is wrong! We need that money for sports colloseums!"


[01-Oct-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
FOOBAWWW


[01-Oct-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55cc981ada4a487198f94b6713034e4a

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Hong Kong protester shot as China marks its 70th anniversary
HONG KONG (AP) — In a fearsome escalation of violence, Hong Kong police shot a protester at close range in the chest Tuesday, leaving the teenager bleeding and howling on the ground. Tens of...
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[01-Oct-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e3cd2765739144cd996213b03b6670f7

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Court: FCC can dump net neutrality, but can't bar state laws
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Communications Commission could dump rules that keep internet providers from favoring some services over others, but couldn't bar states like California from enacting...
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[01-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a travesty


[01-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS just recently ruled that clearly pretextual reasoning is invalid


[01-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ajit Pai used arguments about investors that Verizon itself contradicted in statements to investors


[01-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
THE REASONING IS CLEARLY PRETEXTUAL


[01-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
But no, they're just going to chevron the fukk out of this.


[01-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So now in Texas, Comcast will utterly destroy Netflix, while in California and Montana, everything will be a paradise of fair treatment.


[01-Oct-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and in north carolina, sudden link will continue it;s rampant monopoly of terrible data caps


[01-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, "industry-friendly" is a funny way to say "anti-consumer"


[01-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Snow#2761
https://twitter.com/Max_Stirner1856/status/1178424464830324738

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[01-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People saying that Ukrainegate is incomparable to Watergate


[01-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because Watergate was domestic spying


[01-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463855-ukraines-president-says-he-never-spoke-to-giuliani

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Ukraine's president says he never spoke to Giuliani
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday that he has never personally spoken with Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's personal attorney who has pushed for Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Bid
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[01-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like not even this matters


[01-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a cover-up too


[01-Oct-19 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-iranian-drones-launched-iraq-carried-out-attacks-saudi-oil-plants

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EXCLUSIVE: Iranian drones launched from Iraq carried out attacks o...
Iraqi intelligence official tells MEE the strikes were in retaliation for earlier Riyadh funded Israeli drone attacks on Iraqi militia
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[01-Oct-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder what makes this Ukraine buisi was worse: it happened, or the cover up. What'd happen if the president came clean on this? I'd imagine at the least it would not seem as protracted as it is.


[01-Oct-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just be like, "Yeah I did it. I did it. Stop pissing around, here's why. Was it wrong? Let's take it to 2020, OK. Let's get this do key show rolling."


[01-Oct-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
And just deny everyone the pleasure of investigation.


[01-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Coverup made it worse


[01-Oct-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he said he did it anyway only to turn aroudn and say he didnt do it while throwing evidence at people like a shit flinging monkey at azoo


[01-Oct-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
And then he gets mad when people look at said evidence he flung at people


[01-Oct-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he threatens civil war and says he wants the whistleblower's head on a platter


[01-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lol, what's the guy supposed to say "Yeah, another country bullied me into promoting corruption; remember to take me seriously on the international stage, and vote for me next elections!"


[01-Oct-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ykfdte8orvp31.png

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[01-Oct-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Clearly we should just feed this guy spoiled food


[01-Oct-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Germs aren't real obviously, so how could they hurt him


[01-Oct-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen an argument that Trump merely "leveraged his position"


[01-Oct-19 09:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't shake that guys hand. 🤢


[01-Oct-19 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/62_nYgHQMok

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'No disposable cups': Boris Johnson's aide snatches drink from hand
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[01-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463879-giuliani-hires-ex-watergate-prosecutor-for-legal-help-in-ukraine

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Giuliani hires ex-Watergate prosecutor for legal help in Ukraine b...
President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani has hired a Jon Sale, a former assistant Watergate prosecutor, to represent him in the congressional investigations into Trump’s contacts with Ukraine.
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[01-Oct-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
????


[01-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not good when your lawyer hires a lawyer...


[01-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Trump plan tho


[01-Oct-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
When you, the defendant, hire a lawyer who was previously a prosecutor for the exact crime you committed


[01-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the fire starts to reach you, put more kindling down.


[01-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Always keep above the fire on your wooden tower.


[01-Oct-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Burn the white house to the gorund with the wood from your lawyers corpses!


[01-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] @Itsthinking Say it with me:
"We live in a..."
(A bit NSFW and gross) ||https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UwCVwOwRiWI/maxresdefault.jpg ||

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[01-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This happened within an hour of me hearing someone say comparing this to Watergate is stupid.


[01-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[01-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a tumor


[01-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Little over an hour tbf


[01-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The actual vid makes it even better ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwCVwOwRiWI||

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Society TRAILER (1989)
Subscribe and enjoy more horror on SCREAMFEST https://bit.ly/2MYvdFt Join us for the Double Feature - Fears & Beers screening of BRIDE OF RE-ANIMATOR & SOCIE...
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[01-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The movie's probably crap, but the trailer just like, givs me Kavanaugh vibes, which I think was the whole point of it.


[01-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
People in the 80s comparing Society itself among the rich to horror.


[01-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, comments seem to indicate it's actually good...


[01-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Should watch it at some point and use it whenever talking about Kavanaugh etc.


[01-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you ever hire someone from Watergate if you didn't want it to look bad


[01-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about how it looks


[01-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about results


[01-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
yes, you want the prosecutor for the crime, who won, to defend


[01-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause he knows how the enemy will play


[01-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
He knows the weakness in the arguments, how to game the system to get you off despite you being guilty.


[01-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lawyers aren't seeking the truth, they're seeking their side to win.


[01-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget what some legal ethics handbook said about this but it was waxing poetic/complaining about reputation


[01-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but yeah, under three hours until we get to hear about a man choking to death on his own blood:


[01-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.abc17news.com/news/governor-won-t-grant-clemency-in-bucklew-execution/1127612692

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Governor won't grant clemency in Bucklew execution
Missouri Gov. Mike Parson will not interfere with the scheduled execution of a man convicted of murder.
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[01-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/628692431600222220/this_is_assuming_peo.jpg

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[01-Oct-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Poop


[01-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why anarchy's dumb in a nutshell.


[01-Oct-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://splinternews.com/mayor-petes-favorite-tv-shows-are-pretty-damning-stuff-1838667955

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Mayor Pete's Favorite TV Shows Are Pretty Damning Stuff
Still unsure where you fall on Mayor Pete for president? Perhaps knowing he’s a Rick and Morty stan will change your mind!
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[01-Oct-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
High IQ president right here


[01-Oct-19 11:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...the heck is a "rick and morty stan"


[01-Oct-19 11:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is a level of journalism only one step above Does Bruno Mars is Gay?


[01-Oct-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe they meant rick and morty-chan?


[01-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stanning means acting like the Eminem song Stan


[01-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy in it


[01-Oct-19 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Republicans: *it must be the work of an enemy stan*


[01-Oct-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a stalker fan?


[01-Oct-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how do you stalk a cartoon?


[01-Oct-19 11:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...||date one of the storyboard artists, hang out with the kid VAs, and get shunned by the fandom over rumors of pedophilia?||


[01-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is journalism?


[01-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone got paid to write that?


[01-Oct-19 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of liberal feminists complaining that Bernie Sanders had no female artists on his music playlist, despite the fact that a trans woman singer was included


[01-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1178343772972896259

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[01-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/SteveDoherty1/status/1177960448915902464

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Extraordinary sign of the times. Tory Conference behind a ring of concrete and steel.
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[02-Oct-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Almost like the ruling class stomping on the poor or something 🤔


[02-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@byte[] I'm gonna move it here because general is kind of busy and I don't want to interrupt that. But holy crap trans people bother me sometimes. Especially as a trans person. I'm glad everyone I've met in here seems to be pretty reasonable at least.


[02-Oct-19 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literally all the trans people i know (on the internet at least) are communists


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Psh. I'm liberal at best


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Which is based tbh)


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Indifferent at most


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And by that I mean mostly indifferent


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait you also count raptor lol


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Forgot, *almost all*, then


[02-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
eee


[02-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm a minority within a minority :raptorsounds:


[02-Oct-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine not praying to Chairman Mao Zedong every night before sleep


[02-Oct-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mao The Dong


[02-Oct-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Mao Sticks The Dong Inside The Bourgeoisie OOOOOOOO*


[02-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> I’m a straight guy and I respect and support trans people but I do take issue with trans people on dating apps not clearly revealing they’re trans. I’m entitled to have my preference of women and it’s not racist or sexist or discriminatory just my likes.
Ehh...Honestly with my brief stint on fetlife I know one thing from this. You feel dirty choosing female over trans, but choosing trans attracts A LOT of people that really really really want to fetishize you. I'm talking within a day of switching my profile over I got 5 people PMing me.


[02-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Then again it was literally a fetish website, so a regular dating site might be different


[02-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://mobile.twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1179109723796361218


[02-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/i/status/1179109723796361218

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Nice introduction Krishnan Guru-Murthy 👏

Jacob Rees-Mogg flew to Scotland to get the Queen's approval for unlawfully proroguing Parliament... #eyebrows

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[02-Oct-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
No it really just is people want to fetishize girldick  @Raptorshy


[02-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Raptorshy#6268
🤔


[02-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
people want to fetishize it but don't want to take it seriously on an emotional level


[02-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
and the reactionary militants are basically forcing people online to accept it on an emotional level in a pretty rapey way


[02-Oct-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
hot take


[02-Oct-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't support gun control because then I won't be able to blow my brains out after I get a medical bill for falling down the stairs


[02-Oct-19 01:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Throw yourself down the stairs again.


[02-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463943-trump-likens-impeachment-inquiry-to-a-coup

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Trump says he's becoming victim of a 'coup'
President Trump on Tuesday escalated his criticism of the Democrats' impeachment inquiry, claiming the process resembled a "coup."
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[02-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
find a nice sturdy tree along the side of the road, rent or take out a loan for a car, and run into the tree at 100+ mph


[02-Oct-19 01:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The tree did nothing to deserve this.


[02-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
if it's a sturdy tree, it'll survive


[02-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
big trees are absurdly resilient


[02-Oct-19 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Scratch off their bark and they are prone to infections and disease just like us.


[02-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unironically, the easiness with which someone can off themselves in a moment of weakness is a fairly good argument for gun control


[02-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most suicide methods are (relatively) slow or add a sense of guilt by making them public or inconvenient to others, gun is just 5 seconds out


[02-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that's why men are usually more successful at suicide than women


[02-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
men choose more effective methods like blowing their brains out


[02-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not enough time from "oh shit, this is it, no more" to "wait a fucking second..."


[02-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
while women typically think of what people will see after they die and decide they'll take a load of pills instead


[02-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
women commit suicide at a much lower rate than men though


[02-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
men attempt suicide 70% more often than women as of 2015


[02-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
and are 3-4 times more successful at committing suicide


[02-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Republicans have latched onto the narrative, first floated by The Federalist, a conservative website, that the intelligence community’s inspector general, Michael Atkinson, had quietly lowered the bar last month for whistleblower complaints to allow the submission of secondhand accounts. That claim was debunked — and Atkinson has said he based the complaint on rules drafted in 2018 — but it hasn’t prevented Trump and his congressional allies from pointing to the alleged change as evidence of a brewing political conspiracy against the president. "


[02-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
btw @byte[], I heard that custom fitted suits are much more comfortable than generic mass-produced suits that aren't fitted properly


[02-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
which, of course, requires money


[02-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
💸💸💸


[02-Oct-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a capitalist dystopia


[02-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, what's wrong with the euro exactly? that article you linked about francis fukuyama says that he now thinks the euro was created "ineptly" and that it was an "elite-driven policy that turned out to be pretty disastrous"


[02-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
> But by late 2003, Fukuyama had recanted his support for the Iraq war, which he now regards as a defining error alongside financial deregulation and the euro’s inept creation. “These are all elite-driven policies that turned out to be pretty disastrous, there’s some reason for ordinary people to be upset.”


[02-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/g1Sq1Nr58hM

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Tim Curry is escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted ...
SPACE
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[02-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), did you post something and then delete it?


[02-Oct-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0q2ZR4nBuE

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Real Time with Bill Maher
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New Rule: White Shame | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill asks white liberals to stop hating on themselves and proposes a "H...
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[02-Oct-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no?


[02-Oct-19 02:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Fukuyama is a meme I don't take seriously


[02-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think the euro is doing particularly bad right now


[02-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, after the fact it seems like it was a good idea


[02-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
I do know that it struggled in the first few years though


[02-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jciv/status/1178623240161419265

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https://twitter.com/jciv/status/1178623240161419265
This tweet is itself an independent basis for impeachment - a sitting president threatening civil war if Congress exercises its constitutionally authorized power. https://t.co/JL9XzClGXf
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[02-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[02-Oct-19 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Hur de dur he was only quoting someone else"


[02-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently the hill tabs left open for too long start using up a lot of CPU


[02-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
I had a couple open for like an hour as I was sorting through all the shit linked in discord today


[02-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
and they started using up 5% of my CPU, I checked through about:performance on firefox


[02-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
I opened them again and they were fine


[02-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Get a tab suspender


[02-Oct-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Close your unused tabs


[02-Oct-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine having more than three tabs open at once


[02-Oct-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This meme was made by energy conserving gang


[02-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
there is not enough time in the world to watch/read everything I like to watch/read


[02-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
so I accrue debt on tabs


[02-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
also, this video would be funny, but only if you forget that US "liberals" are a product of conservative thought <https://twitter.com/Max_Stirner1856/status/1178424464830324738>


[02-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463948-poll-just-40-percent-of-republicans-say-trump-probably-mentioned

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Poll: 40 percent of Republicans say Trump 'probably' mentioned Bid...
Just four in 10 Republicans say they think President Trump discussed an investigation into Democratic presidential rival Joe Biden during a phone call with Ukraine's president, despite Trump acknowledging doing so,
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[02-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is pretty weird


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
40% of Republicans accept a small part of the shitty reality? Sounds about right.


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How is it weird


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He released his version of a transcript where he was talking about Biden explicitly


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, officially


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fox news said Trump is the victim of a witch hunt, that's the end of the news about it


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's never been any doubt they _talked_ about Biden


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything after this is clearly lies and misdirection, no need to pay attention to it


[02-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this is a surprise to you, you don't understand how Republican voters operate.


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the president they love _admitted_ he talked about the Bidens. He just said it was proper


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It makes no sense to say "oh he didn't discuss it period"


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes perfect sense.


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They literally do not care any more, any mention of the story is just liberal elitists and DC politicians making shit up


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can deny that the Earth exists, how will people convince you it's round?


[02-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
my mom calls me a cult member because I read a few scientific studies on human-caused global warming and decided it was human-caused (I used to think that there was enough doubt to say that it wasn't human-caused)


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Its, they don't read the transcripts


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't watch the interviews


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
she says I was indoctrinated in high school because I watched an inconvenient truth 3 times


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can deny the river is polluted, how can you be convinced that a business is doing it?


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
and that the "programming" didn't kick in until later


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trum and Hannity and the Fox & Friends said the liberals are having a fit over nothing


[02-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's it


[02-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything else ever mentioned is lies and propaganda


[02-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would tell you a devil's triangle is a drinking game.


[02-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Kavanaugh never got very drunk.


[02-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And didn't play it.


[02-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the level they are operating on.


[02-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best you'll get is "Damn right, Biden's a traitor and we should be demanding our allies serve REAL americans for once!"


[02-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
40% of them accepting some basic facts is a huge accomplishment.


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone pointed out that the exact number of seats the GOP is defending in the Senate next year is the number of defectees needed for removal


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean at the very least I think you have what, eight or so Republicans that would go for it?


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you need 19 to defect...are they really defending 19 seats?


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And six that are basically a lost cause


[02-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's interesting.


[02-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't make up a full single spine between them all


[02-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people that I think would go for sure would be Gardner, Collins, Murkowski, Romney, McSally, and Sasse


[02-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And if they all go, you'd get people like Rubio and Blunt, among others


[02-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
what decides when a vote for the senate majority leader will be held?


[02-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'd be surprised if there weren't a few republicans who would refuse to vote for mcconnell


[02-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Including the special elections in Arizona and Georgia, Republicans will be defending 23 seats in 2020, while the Democratic Party will be defending 12 seats."


[02-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the previous one dies or their party loses majority


[02-Oct-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Fucking **_BOOMERS_**


[02-Oct-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking it's not treason, it's just alternative patriotism


[02-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Apparently Bill got hit with twitter outrage for a section on obesity https://youtu.be/Dm4TAdiEFn0

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New Rule: The Fudge Report | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill calls on Americans to take control of their health and address the...
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[02-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pretty sure he gets his with twitter outrage every other week


[02-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't help that every other week he's genuinely being a boomer shit about something


[02-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He too often invalidates whatever point he's trying to make by being the biggest edgelord in the room


[02-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, he's not wrong


[02-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
but it's mostly because the only food that most americans can afford is obesity-promoting shit


[02-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/463815-reporters-scramble-after-mouse-falls-from-white-house-ceiling

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Reporters scramble after mouse falls from White House ceiling
White House reporters were sent into a panic Tuesday morning after a mouse fell from the ceiling of the press booth.
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[02-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This story got almost as many shares as a Solomon hitpiece


[02-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/becmur/status/1179067088243216390

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Rebecca Murray (@becmur)
https://twitter.com/becmur/status/1179067088243216390
@spettypi @PeterAlexander A mouse has now spent more time interacting with journalists than the current do-nothing press secretary. And in a real plot twist, the mouse declares:

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[02-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
> A mouse has now spent more time interacting with journalists than the current do-nothing press secretary.


[02-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFwQ7PFtcKk

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Timcast
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Hong Kong Police Just SHOT A Protester With A LIVE ROUND POINT BLANK
Support My Work - https://www.timcast.com/donate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7OIPOIooWQ Buy stuff from me http://www.teespring.com/stores/timcast Become...
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[02-Oct-19 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
yup


[02-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
that title tho


[02-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
of the video


[02-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
like "Oh, MY GOD, I can't BELIEVE people shoot OTHER people with LIVE AMMUNITION!!!!"


[02-Oct-19 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least it's not as clickbaity as the titles the guy uploading Penn & Teller Fool Us clips writes


[02-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US stance ideally would be total independence for Hong Kong, Macau, TIbet, and Taiwan


[02-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What will Winnie do, nuke Hawaii?


[02-Oct-19 09:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/01/snakes-spikes-bullets-trump-reportedly-floated-extreme-measures-to-stop-migrants

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Snakes, spikes, bullets: Trump reportedly floated 'extreme' measur...
Upcoming book details the president’s ‘frenzied week’ and a tense relationship with the homeland security secretary
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[02-Oct-19 09:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trump wanted a snake filled moat for the border wall

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[02-Oct-19 09:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9b6edcca00604abb8ffa3fbc8176bc0c

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Judge temporarily blocks law aimed at Trump's tax returns
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A U.S. judge on Tuesday temporarily blocked a California law aimed at forcing President Donald Trump to release his personal income tax returns in order to appear on the...
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[02-Oct-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Morrison said the law violates Trump’s First Amendment right of associating with voters who share his political beliefs.'


[02-Oct-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's just plain political and he's not actually basing it off a real thing.


[02-Oct-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, if this is unconstitutional, so are sore loser laws.


[02-Oct-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was a Democratic president, and there was a new law saying they had to like, divest holdings in the stokk market or something


[02-Oct-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This same judge would say it's fine.


[02-Oct-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reality of this, sore loser laws are a much worse pile of shit, but they tend to benefit Republicans, so they don't get tossed out.


[02-Oct-19 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fde7611bb7dd4bb6816ecfa9e84b82f4

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Ex-S. Carolina congressman sues state GOP for nixing primary
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A Republican former South Carolina congressman is part of a lawsuit filed Tuesday over the state party's decision to cancel its GOP primary ahead of the 2020 election, a move...
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[02-Oct-19 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2406a7cb7afc4c6689ea509992abcbdc

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China parades its latest missiles in challenge to US, others
BEIJING (AP) — Military planners in Washington and elsewhere will be taking note of new missile technology displayed by China, particularly a hypersonic ballistic nuclear missile believed capable...
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[02-Oct-19 02:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yeah, Dongfeng(East Wind)-17


[02-Oct-19 03:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] a hypersonic ballistic nuclear missile believed capable of breaching all existing anti-missile shields deployed by the U.S. and its allies [...]

Well of course it can breach them. The existing anti-missile shields were also made in China :twismug: :twismug: :twismug:


[02-Oct-19 03:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its scary they they have to use actual guns in china now x.x


[02-Oct-19 03:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and with whats going on in usa x.x


[02-Oct-19 03:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh can i just hide in a bomb shelter or something lol


[02-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-border-wall-us-mexico-mike-pompeo-white-house-moat-kirstjen-nielsen-a9128991.html

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Trump shouted 'you're making me look like an idiot' at White House...
Officials including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and aide Stephen Miller berated over border policy
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[02-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump shouted "you're making me look like a fucking idiot" at WH staff


[02-Oct-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/463969-giuliani-floats-suing-house-democrats-over-trump-impeachment-probe

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Giuliani proposes suing House Democrats over Trump impeachment probe
President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday floated the idea of suing members of Congress over their actions relating to an impeachment inquiry into Trump, saying their actions are “worse than McCarthy.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giuliani-rising.jpg


[02-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The week ended with the firing of Ms Nielsen after the 45th President said he wanted a cement wall on the Mexican border, despite contracts having already been secured for a steel barrier.

Asked by Mr Trump to erect such a barricade, Ms Nielsen replied: “Sir, I literally don’t think that’s even possible”. 

This prompted the president to request her resignation by saying he wanted “to make a change”.`


[02-Oct-19 06:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus christ, that wall is going to be such a money sink to maintain


[02-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], something something apprentice producers struggled something something coherent


[02-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/how-mark-burnett-resurrected-donald-trump-as-an-icon-of-american-success

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How Mark Burnett Resurrected Donald Trump as an Icon of American S...
With “The Apprentice,” the TV producer mythologized Trump—then a floundering D-lister—as the ultimate titan, paving his way to the Presidency.
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[02-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
> Originally, Burnett had planned to cast a different mogul in the role of host each season. But Trump took to his part more nimbly than anyone might have predicted. He wouldn’t read a script—he stumbled over the words and got the enunciation all wrong. But off the cuff he delivered the kind of zesty banter that is the lifeblood of reality television.


[02-Oct-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
> He barked at one contestant, “Sam, you’re sort of a disaster. Don’t take offense, but everyone hates you.” Katherine Walker told me that producers often struggled to make Trump seem coherent, editing out garbled syntax and malapropisms. “We cleaned it up so that he was his best self,” she said, adding, “I’m sure Donald thinks that he was never edited.”


[02-Oct-19 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
> However, she acknowledged, he was a natural for the medium: whereas reality-TV producers generally must amp up personalities and events, to accentuate conflict and conjure intrigue, “we didn’t have to change him—he gave us stuff to work with.” Trump improvised the tagline for which “The Apprentice” became famous: “You’re fired.”


[02-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
basically, trump was a sort of "monkey on a typewriter" for reality television lines


[02-Oct-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
where sometimes he'd be an incoherent pile of shit, while other times he'd have amazing improv lines


[02-Oct-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-state/congress-to-be-briefed-on-alleged-retaliation-against-u-s-diplomats-over-ukraine-idUSKBN1WH1WA

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[02-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://gizmodo.com/a-brain-infecting-virus-carried-by-mosquitoes-is-spread-1838370317

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Over the weekend, health officials in several states reported more cases and deaths linked to the Eastern Equine Encephalitis (EEE) virus. The number of cases, while still small, is set to make 2019 the worst recorded year for EEE in recent history—and it may be a sign of t...
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[02-Oct-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eee?


[02-Oct-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:mango:


[02-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/joseph-wilson-dead.html

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Joseph Wilson, Who Challenged Iraq War Narrative, Dies at 69
He contradicted a statement in President George W. Bush’s State of the Union address. A week later, his wife at the time, Valerie Plame, was outed as a C.I.A. agent.
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[02-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, I made that joke the first time someone linked an article about it lol


[02-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
:mango:


[02-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Mani#1404
Does anyone else think Boris Johnson looks like a British Trump? It's..kind of amazing actually.


[02-Oct-19 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He looks like a mix between Ed Sheeran and Trump


[02-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49911035

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Bernie Sanders halts campaign following surgery
The Democratic presidential candidate cancels all upcoming events after undergoing surgery.
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[02-Oct-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie does an oof


[02-Oct-19 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He won't die tho, this is likely just the media overreacting to distract from Biden being practically an undead flesh golem


[02-Oct-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/envinyon/status/1179289439916498944?s=21

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I'm watching court proceedings of that police officer that killed that guy in his apartment and they're showing off social media stuff that she's shared
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[02-Oct-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/52fab89eb163474fbe7d1bb8bfc4ba1b

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Netanyahu’s legal saga reaches critical stage in Israel
JERUSALEM (AP) — Prosecutors began a pre-indictment hearing for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday, opening a critical stage in a lengthy legal saga that threatens to end the career of...
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[02-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
my mom says that if israel gets rid of netanyahu, they'll be defenseless against the arab nations surrounding it


[02-Oct-19 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[02-Oct-19 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tell her about the Camp David Accords which saw Egypt effectively give up on supporting the Palestinians


[02-Oct-19 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bashar Al-Assad's tentative deals with Israel over the Golan Heights, etc.


[02-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
yes, she says that egypt and israel being in a sort of alliance with each other is a good thing


[02-Oct-19 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Saddam Hussein is also gone, which is another threat against Israel just eliminated


[02-Oct-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
she also lauded how the egyptian army overthrew what she called a tyrant


[02-Oct-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
she thinks that the US military would do the same


[02-Oct-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[02-Oct-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What tyrant is she referring to


[02-Oct-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
idk, that religious dude who got elected like a decade ago


[02-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
I think it was this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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[02-Oct-19 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hosni Mubarak?


[02-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
no, mohamed morsi


[02-Oct-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
the muslim brotherhood dude


[02-Oct-19 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[02-Oct-19 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well that'd be like the Democrats overthrowing "god's chosen one", Trump


[02-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that she sees it the opposite


[02-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
she doesn't see trump as a "chosen one" and thinks people should stop harassing him


[02-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
even though what she effectively argues for indirectly puts him up on a pedestal


[02-Oct-19 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that sounds loony


[02-Oct-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's the unchosen chosen one


[02-Oct-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
basically, her only argument defending trump is "jobs high, unemployment low, obama economy bad, trump economy good, rest is fake news"


[02-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
I've showed her the data on the GDP growth, she says that anything before 2017 is fake


[02-Oct-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the world didn;t exist before trump, Trump is the light that let there be!


[02-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
she doesn't believe that the current US GDP is $25 trillion because believing it was so would mean she would be wrong about the US not being able to afford to pay for a $10 trillion healthcare plan over 30 years


[02-Oct-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today i heard the weirdest conspiracy theory regarding ukraine in a c-span call


[02-Oct-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that the ukraine whistle blower is actually a republican set up to trip the democrats up and that the whistle blower is settign the democrats up for failure


[02-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
the US GDP is $21.345 trillion as of Q2 2019


[02-Oct-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We can probably afford most of the shit ont he taxes we pay now, if we werent funneling it into walls, and sports buildings


[02-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
we already spend more than twice the amount per person in the US on healthcare than switzerland, and 7 times more per person than australia, and both have infinitely better healthcare


[02-Oct-19 09:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nuclear-fusion-lab-eu-funding-brexit-conference-speech-tory-a9130381.html

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Oxfordshire reactor has been described as ‘shining example of scientific cooperation between EU members’
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[02-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Snow#2761

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[02-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2019/10/02/select-joker-screenings-to-be-policed-with-nypd-undercover-tactics-for-opening-weekend?sf110018257=1

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Select Joker Screenings to Be Policed With NYPD Undercover Tactics...
Actor Joaquin Phoenix has responded to Joker criticism, as the NYPD prepares to deploy undercover officers in theaters for the DC film's opening weekend.
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[02-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
they say this, but in reality it'll end up being like 1 cop in a single theater


[02-Oct-19 09:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🤡 🔫 👮


[02-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/PouPSYh

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Climate change
https://i.imgur.com/sc93Rzph.jpg


[02-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
> Have you even thought about the SHAREHOLDERS?!


[02-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
> But what if billionaires are slightly less rich? Won't anyone think of the billionaires?


[02-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
cawnsume the rich


[02-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You gotta convince every country to go green otherwise its just waste of time and resources


[02-Oct-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
not so


[02-Oct-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea that it's all or nothing is a myth, anyone making changes to help offset their carbon footprint is helping


[02-Oct-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
But some thing matter more than others


[02-Oct-19 11:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
This also assumes that countries in Africa or even Bengal have really added anything, and that's false. If anything they're on the receiving end of non-green practices in the rest of the world. For example, these countries are for one reason or another the recipients of our garbage. China decided to refuse American and Canadian garbage for a reason, which may be bound for whatever country they can pay to take it for chump change.


[02-Oct-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
So when you see pictures of third world kids playing in piles of refuse, it's not because all of that was produced by their community or country. But because it's been pretty much foisted on them. A lot of that originates in more developed nations or America, which just doesn't want to deal with it on their shores and its cheaper for the companies handling that trash to thrust it on them.


[02-Oct-19 11:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Similarly the economic trends in third-world states is dictated by demands by first world developed countries and the interaction of business and politics between them. It's not impossible to believe or point out the reason mines in Chile or the Congo are as dirty and shitty as they are because the interactions between first and third or second world countries with them demands that things are done at such the cheap, that they do go about doing this.


[02-Oct-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
It pretty much ties into a more holistic and intersectional politics surrounding climate change, which isn't just rising sea levels and more and more dangerous hurricanes or wild-fires but an entire movement of people and how economics are modeled. A great humanitarian boon could be had if for instance, negotiating parties were obligated to fulfill certain strong criteria, or were responsible for dealing with different parties to get what they want. For instance: would warlordism and effective in the Congo be as prominent as it is now if the tech companies looking for the component parts for their computers dealt with the miners as a collective, as a union of sorts as opposed to any war chief that holds their workers with guns?


[02-Oct-19 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
To put things another way, since I have my head there: the development of China into an urban society as fast as it has in the best three to four decades is not an isolated incident and not just an environmental concern. If in opening their markets the Chinese made themselves available to foreign finance to develop the nation through use of their cheap labor (as in historical context, the Chinese have long had cheap labor on account of them having so much, early American enterprise learned that quickly, particularly in the tobacco industry I think). And if Chinese labor is so shit because of lax standards in China, and because companies moving in want the lowest expenses possible to maximize profit; then a wide-scale change in the way western capital operates to not just improves base working conditions in China, but would further develop the Chinese economy into a green economy if those companies were forced to at home to adopt a more climate-friendly operation the world over.


[02-Oct-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
But recognizing the rapid Chinese urbanization comes with industrialism from post-Fordist America, the density and pollution of Chinese cities could likewise be mitigated if the manufacturing jobs offered were spread out into all the smaller municipalities of China instead of creating one concentrated generator of air pollution through all those cars, power plants, barbeques, and human activity in one location (Beijing-Tianjin, for instance). It would be a greater expense, since the advantages of these major cities where industrial activity in China is strongest is because they're on the historically advantaged port cities of China.


[02-Oct-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
The same could be said of India, which had strong protections for its own economy and social welfare spending which was eroded in the seventies and eighties by the west's economic demands who demanded lower and lower expectations and quality assurances to make it cheaper to operate there, making an incredibly hostile working environment by breaking up state protections of even mass union busting (if it existed) and allowing manufacturers outsourcing abroad to take advantage of weaker environmental regulations they themselves directly or indirectly forced the country to take, and now maintain.


[02-Oct-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's one thing to quip smartly at their own massive carbon footprints but they're not acting independently or without outside forces. If the outside forces were removed, it's possible they could easily reform to the better by either reclaiming their own economies or through a more ethical practice of said companies who infiltrated their economies.


[02-Oct-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
tldr the west did it


[02-Oct-19 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well I wouldn't say "the west" but capitalism in general. I'd as well blame Japan as America or the UK for it. And China themselves too in Africa. It's a general infection of generating a profit for a small set of private individuals elsewhere off the labor of others, because that's the logical conclusion of a system of private economic ownership and profit racing. Changing one factor of the two or many would have a knock-on effect elsewhere, but doing any of that would be dangerous to current capitalist economies because profits are holy, Profits are God. Profits and The Market is the institution of the new religion.


[02-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure that capitalism is ubiquitous in the west


[02-Oct-19 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-called-boris-johnson-for-help-discrediting-mueller-inquiry-report

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The call to the British prime minister is reported to have happened just one day after his controversial conversation with Ukraine.
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[02-Oct-19 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
How many countries is this now


[02-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ukraine, Australia, and the UK


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It also happened _the day after_ the Ukraine call


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think there was one other but i forget what it was


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i may be remembering a different trump scandal


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464088-reporter-asks-finnish-president-what-favors-trump-has-asked-for

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Reporter asks Finnish president what 'favors' Trump has asked for
A reporter on Wednesday asked the Finnish president what favors President Trump had asked of him as the two leaders stood side-by-side for a White House press conference.
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[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finland!


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Bruh moment


[02-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was it


[03-Oct-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1179471672933519372

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After Pres. Trump told Finnish Pres. Niinistö to "pick somebody nice from Finland" to ask a question, Finnish reporter says to Niinistö, "I have to ask: what kind of favors has Mr. Trump asked from you?"

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[03-Oct-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey, you know what the Ukraine, Australia, and the UK all have in common?


[03-Oct-19 12:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Those are the countries associated with the conspiracy theory that Mifsud was actually a CIA operative feeding Papadopalous a fake promise of "dirt" on Hillary Clinton in an entrapment scheme to allow the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign


[03-Oct-19 12:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pretty crazy theory, right


[03-Oct-19 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that's exactly the story that Barr and Trump appear to be searching for evidence to support, based on who they have talked to and what they have asked of them


[03-Oct-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, one of the things Barr did in Italy was meet with a guy who claimed to have recordings of conversations with Mifsud


[03-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464138-graham-sends-letter-asking-countries-to-cooperate-with-barr-probe

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Graham sends letter asking countries to cooperate with Barr probe
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[03-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Austria too


[03-Oct-19 12:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The whole world is looking into this Ukraine scandal regarding the 2020 election, and Trump's sent his attorney general out of the country to personally look into evidence to discredit the Mueller investigation of the 2016 election.


[03-Oct-19 01:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
An investigation which Trump, Barr, and the rest of the GOP have declared a nothingburger and a closed case.


[03-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're trying to say it was started for the wrong reason


[03-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything in Trump's defenses boils down to "my enemies just don't like me, they don't hav actual reasons"


[03-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about poisoning the well


[03-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really whataboutism, when you think about it.


[03-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say your enemies aren't clean either


[03-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore they hav no right to go after your swamp.


[03-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/464142-trump-tweets-clip-inserting-photo-of-bidens-and-ukrainian-gas

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President Trump on Wednesday tweeted a video that inserted a photograph of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter golfing with a Ukrainian gas company executive into the music video for Nickelback’s 2005 song “Photograph.”
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[03-Oct-19 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-protests/gunfights-rage-in-southern-iraq-protests-spread-nationwide-idUSKBN1WH0YF

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Gunfights rage in southern Iraq, protests spread nationwide
Iraq deployed counter-terrorism troops in the southern city of Nassiriya on Wedn...
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[03-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/kzQK3kd

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Hong Kong Protestors
https://i.imgur.com/SoVDt9Xh.jpg


[03-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[03-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html>

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[03-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
apparently news of bernie's heart problem caused him to have a slump in popularity


[03-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
dipped 1.1% in a single day


[03-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Litrojia#0612
I saw that chart earlier


[03-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Litrojia#0612
most recent polls that factors in are from yesterday by the look of it


[03-Oct-19 09:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7b9f754aa2fd4a7ba647aebaa98a0693

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Trump admin shifting to privatize migrant child detention
SAN BENITO, Texas (AP) — On a recent day in a remodeled brick church in the Rio Grande Valley, a caregiver tried to soothe a toddler, offering him a sippy cup. The adult knew next to nothing about...
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[03-Oct-19 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/02/ex-dallas-police-officer-amber-guyger-sentenced-10-years-prison-murder/

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Ex-Dallas Cop Amber Guyger Sentenced to 10 Years for Neighbor's Murder
Ex-Dallas cop Amber Guyger gets 10 years in prison for murder.
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[03-Oct-19 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
a cop got 10 years in prison for second degree murder for shooting and killing her neighbor when she entered the wrong apartment and thought he was an intruder


[03-Oct-19 10:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the power of christ shaved 10 years off her jail time! it;s a tragimiracle!


[03-Oct-19 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1179494005064847361?s=21

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Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm feeling good. I'm fortunate to have good health care and great doctors and nurses helping me to recover.

None of us know when a medical emergency might affect us. And no one should fear going bankrupt if it occurs. Medicare for All!
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[03-Oct-19 01:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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They are gonna do it...

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[03-Oct-19 03:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
man all this shit going


[03-Oct-19 03:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
just makes me wanna crawl in a hole


[03-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What custom things are they doing?


[03-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464193-gop-group-calls-on-five-house-republicans-to-speak-out-on-ukraine-scandal

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GOP group calls out five House Republicans to speak up on Ukraine
A Republican group is calling on five House Republicans to speak out against the Ukrainian scandal at the center of an impeachment inquiry into Trump in new ads that aired on “Morning Joe” and “Fox and Friends”
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[03-Oct-19 05:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nvm


[03-Oct-19 05:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But more seriously, I must be missed something, why would customs need their own cars? Are they going to visit houses and do possesions evaluations?


[03-Oct-19 05:22 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Enforcement of licence requirements for Brexit participants :ponythinking:


[03-Oct-19 05:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is there mark in passport saying "I voted for Brexit"?


[03-Oct-19 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/464205-fox-news-legal-analyst-trumps-ukraine-call-manifested-both-criminal-and#

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Fox News legal analyst: Trump's Ukraine call 'manifested both crim...
Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano is arguing that President Trump committed an impeachable offense during a July 25 phone call in which he pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden and
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[03-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Voted for Brexit? You need a licence for that.

Voted against Brexit? You *also* need a licence for that. :twismug:


[03-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Didn't vote? You know what happens next.


[03-Oct-19 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/afp/status/1179764472170389504?s=21

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#BREAKING Trump says could 'certainly' ask China's Xi to investigate Biden
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[03-Oct-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
> No he said he did it, he shared the transcript, the whistle-blower was a democrat, they should be shot for treason, it wasn't a crime though, it was only 3rd hand info but it matched his statements admitting it, his lawyer admitting to it, and the transcript. Also, it was a Hillary plot to make him call Ukraine and commit some abuse of power, hold up military aid for personal gain etc.


[03-Oct-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/02/donald-trump-asked-boris-johnson-to-help-him-discredit-robert-muellers-report/

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Trump asked for Boris Johnson's help in discrediting Mueller
Trump also sought help from the Australian and Italian governments
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[03-Oct-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Italy now


[03-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Weird. He should have asked China first, considering how much info their government has on basically the entire world :twismug:


[03-Oct-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Oct-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
*will work when drunk


[03-Oct-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kfc-opens-new-branch-in-jihadi-held-idlib/

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KFC opens new branch in jihadi-held Idlib
Jiahdists in Syria's Idlib can now enjoy the delicious meals of KFC as a new branch opens in the terrorists' heartland.
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[03-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/464258-top-diplomat-to-ukraine-reportedly-texted-its-crazy-to-withhold#

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Top diplomat to Ukraine reportedly texted 'it's crazy to withhold ...
The top U.S.
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[03-Oct-19 09:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The cars are used to perform spot checks in response to BoJo the clowns stupid double border idea.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-northern-ireland-brexit-plan-backstop-border-a9136951.html

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Opinion: Boris Johnson’s double-border plan is far, far worse th...
Johnson's alternative will scythe through both of Northern Ireland's economic arteries. The prime minister's approach is dead on arrival
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[03-Oct-19 09:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There are suppliers and customers within 5 miles each side of the border that will need to travel to these far away customs instead of going directly to the customer.

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[03-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy got suspended for posting the phone number 380-67 466-7969


[03-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zelensky's personal advisor's number


[03-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And also this


[03-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464281-volker-warned-giulianis-information-on-ukraine-wasnt-credible-report#

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Volker warned Giuliani's information on Ukraine wasn't credible: r...
Former U.S.
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[03-Oct-19 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnP0lrBWo6Q

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Stupid City - Heat Stroke (with Valentina Leftistthot420)
Today we take a trip to the American Southwest to explore visions of Phoenix, Arizona - past and future, fact and fiction. With special guest Valentina (@lef...
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[03-Oct-19 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-china-ukraine-biden-impeach-894329/

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Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said...
The president went ahead and publicly called for Ukraine and China to interfere in the 2020 election
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[04-Oct-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Weird how he was all huffing and puffing about China being a threat until now


[04-Oct-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone is a threat until mafia don needs a favor


[04-Oct-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then He pretends he has all the power in these relationships while treating them like helpless pawns in a game of checkers


[04-Oct-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think he;s trying to do that thing where men insult women to lower their confidence so they'll go out with them, but on a country relations scale with hopes they'll commit treason for him instead of going out with him


[04-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Trump Goes on Live Television to Do Exact Thing Whistleblower Said He Did

This is the kind of headline you'd see on an Onion article :cakelestia:


[04-Oct-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
According to Andrew McCarthy of the National Review, and I'm quoting here, "There is no impeachment inquiry. There are no subpoenas."


[04-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why it's called an inquiry


[04-Oct-19 01:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His logic (because I decided to find out what sort of gaslighting we're up against) is that because they haven't formally voted, anything the house does in this inquiry isn't part of a legitimate impeachment inquiry and is therefore baseless. Also, he's basing that thing on subpoenas on the first letter sent to Pompeo which tl;drs to "please show up and talk to us by x date or we will issue a subpoena for the information anyway"


[04-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no precedent or procedure that a floor vote be called


[04-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-CVXCc1ok

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Trump Warns Of Civil War If Impeached Causing OUTRAGE, But He Isn'...
Trump Tweets Warning Of "Civil War" Causing OUTRAGE, But He Isn't Wrong And The Media Knows It. In a statement made on Fox news Pastor Robert Jeffress warned...
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[04-Oct-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
full title: Trump Warns Of Civil War If Impeached Causing OUTRAGE, But He Isn't Wrong And The Media Knows It


[04-Oct-19 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
he isn't wrong about what


[04-Oct-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
when he warns of a civil war it's a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts


[04-Oct-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a call to arms


[04-Oct-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
incitement, if you will


[04-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
civil war-like fracture


[04-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
he's wrong about not being impeachable


[04-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
he's kind of right about the investigation being a waste of time because there is enough public evidence to impeach him immediately now


[04-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
wrong about it being a coup, this is a process described by the constitution and it is lawful


[04-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We already have an amendment that exists for a legal coup anyway


[04-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464315-trump-mentioned-biden-warren-in-june-call-with-chinese-president

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Trump mentioned Biden, Warren in June call with Chinese president:...
President Trump mentioned Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden and Sen.
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[04-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That explains the silence on Hong Kong


[04-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/464317-gop-senator-defends-trump-asking-for-biden-probe-wouldnt-democrats

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Sen.
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[04-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol Timcast saying it's okay for a sitting president to threaten civil war if the constitutional process for dealing with his crimes is followed.


[04-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy forgot he signed a letter in 2016 agreeing with the Obama administration trying to get rid of that prosecutor in Ukraine


[04-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Forgot"


[04-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, from what I looked up apparently that prosecutor who was supposed to be investigating the company that biden's son was in (the investigation started in 2012, hunter became a shareholder in 2014) was dragging his feet on investigating both that company and another company, and no one liked him


[04-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
and the aid money was already being withheld to pressure ukraine to fire the prosecutor


[04-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
for months before he was fired


[04-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
> This nation is blessed to have @realDonaldTrump as president. By the grace of God, he has the patriotism of Washington, and the backbone of Lincoln. He is already a great president, and the right leader for this momentous time in American history. May God continue to bless you ~


[04-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
> Yeah, like all those times Washington and Lincoln asked for help from England or the Confederacy to be re-elected during the Revolutionary and Civil wars. Sure.

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[04-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
<https://twitter.com/ryszardwithaz/status/1179816178014969856>


[04-Oct-19 03:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump should do what Lincoln and Kennedy did.


[04-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, they didn't ask to be assassinated


[04-Oct-19 03:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump has been asking for a while.


[04-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://roguerocket.com/2019/10/03/eu-rules-facebook-can-be-forced-to-remove-content-worldwide/

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EU Rules Facebook Can Be Forced to Remove Content Worldwide
The EU’s highest court has ruled that if one EU-member country decides content posted on Facebook is illegal, Facebook can be forced to remove specific content worldwide. Facebook and other critics argued the rule will violate freedom of expression laws in other countries b...
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[04-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
ew, censorship


[04-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
poland's going to have a field day with this


[04-Oct-19 03:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Good luck with that.


[04-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone criticized an Austrian politician, so now their criticism is super illegal in the EU, they'll fine Facebook for it being up even in the US etc.


[04-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Poland will probably see this as an opportunity to mimic Putin's gay propaganda law.


[04-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
While also suppressing dissent...aren't it's elections coming up?


[04-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 13th, too soon for it to pass a shitty law on, probably.


[04-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw the thing would be legal in the US


[04-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the EU is saying it must be taken down in the US


[04-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a violation of sovereignty.


[04-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[04-Oct-19 03:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Facebook should ask if complying with country law violates EU law and create a bureaucratic nightmear in the courts were nothing would be done.


[04-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Austrian ruling says ANY SIMILAR COMMENTS are also to be removed


[04-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
ergo, you are not allowed to call that politician an oaf


[04-Oct-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Consider that the EU could just as easily say "you can't do business in Europe if you don't take it down globally"


[04-Oct-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a violation of sovereignty as phrased, perhaps, but that can be fixed with a wording change


[04-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh for sure, but the whole problem is that some EU country could make it illegal to promote gay rights


[04-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if the EU court didn't go WAIT A MINUTE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION ACTUALLY IS A THING WE SAID WE'D MAYBE CONSIDER DOING


[04-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Facebook would hav to either pull out of Europe altogether or start the biggest western political shitstorm in history.


[04-Oct-19 04:35 AM] ononim#8141

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[04-Oct-19 04:35 AM] ononim#8141
Obscure Bruh moment


[04-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lemme guess, this is one of those budhists that are pretty Hrmmm


[04-Oct-19 04:39 AM] ononim#8141
No


[04-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima#Coup_attempt_and_ritual_suicide

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Yukio Mishima
Yukio Mishima (三島 由紀夫, Mishima Yukio) is the pen name of Kimitake Hiraoka (平岡 公威, Hiraoka Kimitake, January 14, 1925 – November 25, 1970), a Japanese author, poet, playwright, actor, model, film director, nationalist, and founder of the Tatenokai. Mishima ...
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[04-Oct-19 04:39 AM] ononim#8141
Hipster Japanese fascist


[04-Oct-19 04:39 AM] ononim#8141
who tried to rise JDF in a coup to overturn constitution of 1946


[04-Oct-19 04:39 AM] ononim#8141
but it failed so he An Heroed


[04-Oct-19 04:41 AM] ononim#8141
and tbh, Mishima's writting alone is not *that* damning, because afaik he's actually good writer alongisde everything


[04-Oct-19 04:41 AM] ononim#8141
But you know


[04-Oct-19 04:41 AM] ononim#8141
with all other things the swede did an oopsie about...


[04-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49919464

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Facebook encryption threatens safety - minister
Priti Patel says extra security in messages will hamper attempts to fight terrorism and child abuse.
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[04-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Time for the UK to ban encrypting posts on the internet, demand removal of encryption worldwide on Facebook.


[04-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/iuKTEGjKgS/teenage_iraq_brides

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The teenager who's been married too many times to count (COPY)
How the ancient ritual of 'muta'a marriage' is being brutally misused to exploit vulnerable young women in Iraq.
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[04-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr there's "pleasure marriages" in shia islam that allows men and women to marry for a few hours/days and have "sanctioned" sex


[04-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
and it basically allows for legal child prostitution


[04-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Sounds like something that Woke Twitter™ should be raising awareness of


[04-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nah let's just get mad at more pixels


[04-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be pretty racist and white-ist to point out bad things happen in other cultures


[04-Oct-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal child prostitution is pretty much the premise of most tribal societies when resources are poor, it's just pretty impressive that they managed to twist super monogamous abrahamic stuff into having it short-term...it's like, the worst of all worlds and contradictory in idea.


[04-Oct-19 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How dare you judge them!


[04-Oct-19 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is part of their culture, it's not for us imperialist cultureless mongrels to interfere!


[04-Oct-19 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why, anything we judge as "bad" is almost certainly our fault to start with


[04-Oct-19 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or not bad at all, really


[04-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Don’t you know that Islam is right about women

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[04-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
smh


[04-Oct-19 02:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So the Volker texts make it pretty explicit that the Zelensky call was built on establishing quid pro quo. It's no wonder Pompeo didn't want this info getting out. Expect Trump to try and pump the brakes on the house doing anything else without a full vote (which they do not need to do, and which he stands very little chance of winning regardless). Not that we needed a smoking gun...but there it is.


[04-Oct-19 02:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The texts before were all about setting it up yeah


[04-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that everyone on trump's side is going to fight tooth and nail, up to and including the point of straight up refusing to recognize the house as a governing body of the US, to prevent trump from speaking under oath


[04-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
everyone knows that there's no way in hell he would be able to not lie under oath, even if he were asked questions that he could tell the truth to and not get into trouble for


[04-Oct-19 02:58 PM] Crow#5457
hell, the house could give him a list of all the questions they plan to ask him in advance and have a team of lawyers coach him on how to answer each question, and trump would still find a way to lie about something


[04-Oct-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention even if he was coached he would likely go way off script anyway


[04-Oct-19 03:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/629665859106766859/unknown.png

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[04-Oct-19 04:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/aliceavizandum/status/1029854528877813766?s=21

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https://twitter.com/aliceavizandum/status/1029854528877813766?s=21
the continuing story of how the CIA just sort of institutionally forgot how to spy on people after a decade of being turned into a drone strikes shop is still being written, and at every turn it gets funnier https://t.co/1FvBQ3FqJ0
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[04-Oct-19 04:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When our intelligence networks gets torn apart by Hezbollah because we're too dumb to not refer to Pizza Hut as "pizza"


[04-Oct-19 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Oct-19 04:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/lark___notes/status/1030146315253104641

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@AliceAvizandum It gets weirder, too: there is a bizarrely plausible theory that the *Soviets* started the ‘67 war in order to use Egyptian jets as cover to make their own air strikes on the Israeli nuclear facility. 

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[04-Oct-19 04:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Inteligence agencies as it turns out: not that intelligent


[04-Oct-19 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
More intelligent than the president though


[04-Oct-19 05:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Low bar


[04-Oct-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Oct-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
She'll have to fight lindsey graham for the privilege


[04-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/oct/04/trump-news-today-live-ukraine-china-texts-impeachment-latest-updates?page=with:block-5d9775eb8f081108db9c26e7#block-5d9775eb8f081108db9c26e7

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Mitt Romney says Trump's foreign outreach was 'wrong and appalling...
Republican Utah Senator has issued a statement rejecting Trump’s stated motivation for urging foreign investigations of Joe Biden
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[04-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/04/anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna-loses-big-judge-drops-final-claims-dallas-area-studio-colleagues-defamed/

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Anime voice actor Vic Mignogna loses big as judge drops final clai...
In a pivotal #MeToo moment for the multimillion-dollar anime industry, Grapevine-based voice actor Vic Mignogna — long hounded by allegations of...
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[04-Oct-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Supreme Court to hear abortion regulation case
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court agreed Friday to plunge into the abortion debate in the midst of the 2020 presidential campaign, taking on a Louisiana case that could reveal how willing the...
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[04-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/464404-the-7-most-explosive-exchanges-in-ukraine-envoy-texts

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The 7 most explosive exchanges in Trump's Ukraine envoy texts
Text messages provided by the former special envoy to Ukraine show administration officials indicating that a meeting between the Ukrainian leader and President Trump was contingent on investigations requested by the U.S.
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[04-Oct-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464425-read-volkers-opening-statement-to-congress-in-ukraine-investigation#

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READ: Volker's opening statement to Congress in Ukraine investigation
President Trump's former envoy to Ukraine, Kurt Volker, said he was unaware of efforts by the president or his officials to press Ukraine to investigate allegations against former Vice President Joe Biden.
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[04-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/464397-georgia-teacher-placed-on-leave-over-description-of-confederate-flag

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Georgia teacher placed on leave over description of Confederate flag
A Georgia high school teacher was put on administrative leave over her description of the Confederate flag,
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[04-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“A sticker you put on the back of your pickup truck to announce that you intend to marry your sister," the description read. "Think of it like a white trash ‘Save The Date’ card.”

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[04-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolutely based


[04-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean...


[04-Oct-19 10:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They died on that hill for their wives, daughters and sisters. sometimes those 3 people were the same person.

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[04-Oct-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/04/trove-of-text-messages-makes-it-clear-trump-knew-his-ukraine-extortion-was-illegal/

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So, those texts: It's clear that Trump knew he was doing crimes
New dump of diplomatic documents suggest Trump understood he had to cover up Ukraine misdeeds — however poorly
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[04-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait isn't Perry resigning


[04-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/464455-cia-sent-criminal-referral-on-whistleblowers-complaint-to-doj-nbc

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CIA sent criminal referral on whistleblower's complaint to DOJ: NBC
A top CIA lawyer attempted to make a criminal referral to the Justice Department weeks ago based on allegations made in the recently released whistleblower complaint, NBC News reported Friday, citing officials familiar with the matter.
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[04-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr engaged in a cover-up


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[05-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464464-house-democrats-subpoena-white-house-for-ukraine-documents

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House Democrats subpoena White House for Ukraine documents
House Democrats have followed through on their threat to issue a subpoena to the White House for documents concerning President Trump's dealings with Ukraine.
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[05-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
None of it matters


[05-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At all


[05-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll hit the great wall of Mitchel


[05-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Congress can do whatever it wants


[05-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will just drum up support for the GOP that actually believe they're the underdogs in all this and Trump is being unfairly attacked


[05-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Capitalism IRL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJCMuC4LZXE

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[05-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then you can paint the proceedings as unfairly handicapped by Republicans


[05-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464385-ocasio-cortez-turns-out-the-woman-yelling-was-a-trump-supporter

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Ocasio-Cortez says woman who suggested 'eating babies' was Trump s...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said Friday that the woman at her town hall meeting the night before who called for "eating babies" in response to the climate crisis is actually a supporter of President Trump.
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[05-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, the worst part about ocasio-cortez's tweet is that there's a ton of trump supporters saying "yeah, seems legit" when there's literally a tweet from a far-right trump-supporting PAC confirming that she was a member and was specifically there to scream about eating babies


[05-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1180104921678569473

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Turns out the woman yelling was a Trump supporter 🤷🏽‍♀️

Doesn’t rule out potential mental issue (Drs do that) but good to know they were not in crisis.

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[05-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/larouchepac/status/1179933213021626368

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Lyndon LaRouche PAC (@larouchepac)
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@SharylAttkisson It was us. Malthusianism isn't new, Jonathan Swift knew that. Sometimes, only satire works. 

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[05-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Oct-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/hong-kong-introduces-emergency-powers-ban-face-masks-protests-n1062301

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Hong Kong introduces emergency powers after months of protests
Before the new rule was confirmed, protests against it had already started.
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[05-Oct-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, I guess they'll just go maskless now, it;s not liek police aren't already beating thme horribly


[05-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/420783318515318785/629838008618713109/unknown.png

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[05-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

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What Is Gender Dysphoria?
Gender dysphoria involves a conflict between a person’s physical gender and the gender with which he or she identifies. Learn more at psychiatry.org.


[05-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
```In adolescents and adults gender dysphoria diagnosis involves a difference between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender, and significant distress or problems functioning. It lasts at least six months and is shown by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics
A strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics
A strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the other gender
A strong desire to be of the other gender
A strong desire to be treated as the other gender
A strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender```


[05-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, to put this together


[05-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, one more thing


[05-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[05-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to put this together


[05-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Carter policy made by Obama with third-party studies put in place some guidelines on treating trans people in the military


[05-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis then grabbed some veterans he wanted, showed them data he was in control of, and had them decide that trans people should be banned.


[05-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No third-party data.


[05-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just conflicts of interest.


[05-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The policy changes they made were fourfold:


[05-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 If you've wanted to be a different sex for at least 6 months straight up to any point in the last 3 years, you can't join the military, up from 1.5 years.


[05-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 If you've ever changed your sex, you can't join the military.


[05-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 If you're in the military and not already known to be trans, if you say you want to change your sex, you're tossed the fukk out.


[05-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 If you're somehow not tossed the fukk out, like if you're already known before this went into effect, your commander isn't allowed to decide which sex you qualify is, you're whatever sex you hav the genitals of for purposes of which shitter to use and such.


[05-Oct-19 05:10 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@prism stryder(intexda) yeah I saw that mask less thing on the news and had a laugh


[05-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make sense, @Mikey?


[05-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is predicated under the idea that since wanting to be a different sex is a ~disorder~, anyone doing it is DEFECTIVE and should be considered a risk to their squad.


[05-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And anyone who actually went thru with changing sex is similarly defective.


[05-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Mikey#7286
ok


[05-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is...massively discriminatory.


[05-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It prejudices you as being mentally unfit just because of your desires or having ever changed sex.


[05-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, prejudging you.


[05-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't allow for a doctor to assess you even and say you're good, unlike the previous policy.


[05-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is what a few trumpanzees were defending as NECESSARY to MAKE OUR MILITARY READY


[05-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, prejudicial blanket bans are totes necessary.


[05-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We couldn't hav someone in Iraq wrongthink.


[05-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see why this is a problem, @Mikey? Or perhaps less importantly, why it'd be normally considered blatantly illegal?


[05-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[05-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/jacob-wohl-mocked-after-claiming-elizabeth-warren-sex-scandal-says-2020-candidate-had-affair-1462895

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Jacob Wohl mocked after claiming Elizabeth Warren had affair with ...
The far-right conspiracy theorist has a history of peddling fake news and tried to concoct false sexual assault allegations against Robert Mueller.
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[05-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically >>1061997


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[05-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, except that anyone who thinks Fluttershy is 15 is a moron to begin with.


[05-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>podcast
>trump photo
>edgy FACTS AND LOGIC Einstein poster
>american flag
>suit and tie
>severe acne


[05-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare mature adult who's getting old date mature adult who's not getting old yet.


[05-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah, that checks out


[05-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, wow, at 24, brain development's done


[05-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're gonna say dating a 24-year-old is going after the young ones, holy shit.


[05-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess it's pedophilia if it's under 30 now.


[05-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woman's not going thru menopause yet? You sikk fukk, I bet you want VIABLE EGG CELLS.

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[05-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean the guy you're dating wasn't around during New Coke? OMG PEDO ALARM


[05-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao

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[05-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
omg that's amazing


[05-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking @byte[] We live in a society.


[05-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed Wohl thought this would _hurt_ Warren


[05-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like she had a Marine escort and did BDSM stuff at her age, wow she must be super aggressive and presidential


[05-Oct-19 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie we do indeed live in one 🤡


[05-Oct-19 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/cia-s-top-lawyer-made-criminal-referral-whistleblower-s-complaint-n1062481

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CIA top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump call
Experts are raising questions about why the Justice Department did not open an investigation.
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[05-Oct-19 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
because Barr


[05-Oct-19 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised the EFF doesn't have an article about the EU ruling to force facebook to censor stuff that is illegal in member states, even if they're posted by people in other countries


[05-Oct-19 01:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck the trade war... The pork price we here is obviously raising by days


[05-Oct-19 01:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like... already 20%~40% higher than before


[05-Oct-19 02:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure a substitute can be made with 30-50 feral hogs


[05-Oct-19 02:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or start Korean culinary season with a bang, 30-50 coyotes! I've heard you have heavy surplus of them.


[05-Oct-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/89ea463c64544602b3e6502de68fe9f1

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Hong Kong 'semi-paralyzed' as ban-defying marches persist
HONG KONG (AP) — With subway services shut down, the wearing of face masks criminalized at rallies and Hong Kong's leader reaffirming her determination not to let rioters get the upper hand,...
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[05-Oct-19 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/05/us-diplomats-wife-claims-immunity-leaves-uk-afterfatal-road/

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US diplomat's wife 'claims immunity and leaves UK after fatal roa...
The wife of a US diplomat reportedly claimed immunity and left the UK after being involved in a fatal road accident.
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[05-Oct-19 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
What a total piece of shit


[05-Oct-19 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck you


[05-Oct-19 04:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...for forgetting they drive on the left. *Seriously*


[05-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Oct-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610 (pinned)
Another handy infographic https://i.redd.it/rmq9t9gdgjq31.jpg

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[05-Oct-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[05-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it looks like someone is either over represented or under represented in those stats. 
X to Doubt


[05-Oct-19 07:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually if the stats I've seen compiling a "but where's the democrats" list in the past are anything to go by, they might be overrepresented. It took including friends, family, assistants, and retired politicians to drum up a list of a dozen cases of pedophilia among Democrats throughout DC


[05-Oct-19 07:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I only focus on that one in particular because the respective list on the Republican side ran over the Reddit comment length limit twice (not character limit, line breaks)


[05-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Diplomats are the worst drivers in the world.


[05-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They face no penalties, ever, for how they drive.


[05-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they can drive as badly as they want.


[05-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they don't prepare before moving to their host country.


[05-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QUH0RXOOp0

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[05-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/464506-tucker-carlson-criticizes-trumps-ukraine-call#

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Tucker Carlson criticizes Trump's Ukraine call
Tucker Carlson criticized President Trump phone call with Ukraine in an op-ed piece for the Daily Caller Thursday.
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[05-Oct-19 08:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
man if even tucker carlson can't get on board you have *seriously* messed up


[05-Oct-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
he still toed the line


[05-Oct-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
said it wasn't good but wasn't impeachable


[05-Oct-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
bitch please


[05-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I need you to do me a favor"


[05-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone involved _knew_ the aid was dependent on talking about the Bidens


[05-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The texts prove that


[05-Oct-19 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, see, what the play here is, if you play it off as not a crime, then people will forget all the folks who said it was, like the FEC chair, or *Mike Pence in 2016*


[05-Oct-19 08:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And according to Sen. Johnson, you can't establish quid pro quo because "the words 'quid pro quo' were never used" in any conversation with Trump or a member of his administration


[05-Oct-19 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I did naht hit her, I did naht, cause I did naht say I was going to hit her


[05-Oct-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
lul


[05-Oct-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Oct-19 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
better link


[05-Oct-19 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep thanks


[05-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't establish qpq unless you say it? Absurd


[05-Oct-19 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the only defense they have left


[05-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
absurd in every context a _quid pro quo_ is applicable to


[05-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
including workplace sexual harassment


[05-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
... something trump has probably done while in office


[05-Oct-19 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh man did you see that stormy daniels tweet


[05-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
🤢


[05-Oct-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
remind me


[05-Oct-19 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://i.redd.it/ynybu5oiklq31.png

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[05-Oct-19 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this one is real, unlike the monika lewinsky one


[05-Oct-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
lewinsky one was funnier


[05-Oct-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
wish it was real


[05-Oct-19 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-hotel-washington-dc-bribery-investigation-rooms-a9143236.html

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Trump hotel taking bookings from foreign officials who never stay ...
The newest revelation in an investigation into the administration
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[05-Oct-19 08:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so basically this isn't anything new other than confirming suspicions but yes Trump is just straight up doing the thing with foreign money that the emoluments clause says not to


[05-Oct-19 09:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/10/first-tool-use-pigs-visayan-endangered/

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Pigs recorded using tools for the first time
The observations could signal a new cognitive skill previously unknown amid swine, which are well known for their intelligence.
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[05-Oct-19 09:01 PM] ononim#8141
Cops are on the brink of discovering civilization /s


[05-Oct-19 09:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
All they need now is fire


[05-Oct-19 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/scottderrickson/status/1180511310879936512?s=19

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When an elder statesman of the arts dismisses the new generation.
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[05-Oct-19 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Non-boomer somehow manages to be more boomer than the average boomer


[05-Oct-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
rap is the musical embodiment of stylistic suck, doesn't mean I won't shake my ass to it


[05-Oct-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/10/04/journalist-says-cbp-officer-withheld-his-passport-until-he-agreed-he-writes-propaganda/


[05-Oct-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/05/donald-trump-take-everyone-with-him

> Trump getting hundreds of people arrested and forcing the government to hold people accountable would be the first thing he has ever done that benefited everyone else.

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If Donald Trump goes down, he’ll try to take everyone with him
As the impeachment saga gathers pace, even some Republicans fear that we’re looking at the ’doomsday president’
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[05-Oct-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-05/trump-orders-cut-to-national-security-staff-after-whistle-blower


[05-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
🍄 🔥 :nut:


[05-Oct-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
how's that society working out


[05-Oct-19 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
> We should just start calling the GOP the "Shallow State".


[05-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that even if he didn't promise qpq for the aid he did it for the WH visit


[05-Oct-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is calling for Romney to be impeached

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[05-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thats not possible


[05-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Indeed


[05-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only the Senate themselves can kick them out


[05-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Sasse is right


[05-Oct-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1180531439361777664

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President Trump called Mitt Romney "pompous" after Romney criticized Trump's "brazen and unprecedented" appeals for China and Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden. https://t.co/88EdNZlTUC
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[05-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464514-collins-trumps-call-for-china-to-probe-biden-completely-inappropriate

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Collins: Trump's call for China to probe Biden 'completely inappro...
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said on Saturday that it was "completely inappropriate" for President Trump to urge China to investigate former Vice President Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
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[05-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're still probably losing next year


[05-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still won't actually condemn him


[05-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She'll be quiet the entire trial and be one of like 10 Republicans to defect


[05-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Tucker Carlson doesn't like this and implied people should vote him out


[05-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe Trump doesn't know that impeachment and the Senate removing senators are different.


[05-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like he thinks "impeech" is a generic term for removing people from a position.


[05-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably.


[05-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Feel bad for the circus Roberts will be running.


[05-Oct-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-have-long-worried-aides-leaving-some-genuinely-horrified/2019/10/04/537cc7a8-e602-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html


[05-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Look up what happened to shitty judge after he got removed


[05-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Turns out he was a victim of one of those serial killer nurses


[05-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
:dab:


[05-Oct-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> Starting long before revelations about Trump’s interactions with Ukraine’s president rocked Washington, Trump’s phone calls with foreign leaders were an anxiety-ridden set of events for his aides and members of the administration, according to former and current officials. They worried that Trump would make promises he shouldn’t keep, endorse policies the United States long opposed, commit a diplomatic blunder that jeopardized a critical alliance, or simply pressure a counterpart for a personal favor.


[06-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He certainly is swearing a lot more


[06-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`He promised the president of Peru that he would deliver to his country a C-130 military cargo plane overnight, a logistical nightmare that set off a herculean scramble in the West Wing and Pentagon.`
Oh I bet the author is real proud of that one =p


[06-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wholesome


[06-Oct-19 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
don't get it


[06-Oct-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ff1504ddaa5446e5903d4e883e79ff51

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GOP unlikely to reprise role it played in Nixon's 1974 exit
NEW YORK (AP) — On Aug. 7, 1974, three top Republican leaders in Congress paid a solemn visit to President Richard Nixon at the White House, bearing the message that he faced near-certain...
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[06-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@byte[] The C-130 is called Hercules


[06-Oct-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
oh


[06-Oct-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
:V


[06-Oct-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/34c2345f8d3047e1a93268aaf672eb72

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US, Greece sign revised defense cooperation agreement
ATHENS, Greece (AP) — The United States and Greece on Saturday signed a revised defense cooperation pact, which Americans officials described as critical to responding to new security challenges...
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[06-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've got to apologize for the great state of Missouri as both of our senators are delusional regarding impeachment


[06-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“I don’t know if in the Democrat House whether any facts will matter here or not. ...You know the Democrats have clearly, a significant number of them have wanted to impeach the president since the day after the election in 2016."- Sen. Roy Blunt


[06-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blunt does not give a single shit about his constituents, at least Hawley will sit for an interview


[06-Oct-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464487-trump-lawyer-giuliani-tells-fox-his-mission-is-to-disrupt-the-world

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Trump lawyer Giuliani tells Fox his mission is 'to disrupt the world'
President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani told Fox News on Friday that his mission is to "disrupt the world" while defending his interactions with Ukrainian officials.
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[06-Oct-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
he's certainly done that


[06-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
sounds illegal


[06-Oct-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus Rudy looks awful there


[06-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464518-trump-told-house-republicans-that-he-made-ukraine-call-because-of

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Trump told House Republicans that he made Ukraine call because of ...
According to Axios, President Trump told House Republicans that he was urged by Energy Secretary Rick Perry to make his Jul
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[06-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean the guy now resigning? 🤔


[06-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[06-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jonsteingart/status/1022586925385957376

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The Calif. Supreme Court decided a case that could add billions in labor costs to employers' bottom line by requiring them to pay employees for work time that previously went uncompensated [UPDATED STORY] https://t.co/7s0M4Ugjnv
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[06-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BobSmith4152/status/1022621943768305664

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Le tricot de Mme. Defarge (@BobSmith4152)
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@jonsteingart RT @BethLynch2020 with pic
Uh, no, Jon.  "Calif. Supreme Court decided a case that could give billions in stolen wages back to employees."
P.S. #StealThis
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[06-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Took Trump long enough to throw Perry under the bus


[06-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
***Theft of wages by employers is greater than all other property crimes combined***


[06-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
and it seems like the lower the wage is, the more often you'll fine wage theft


[06-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
probably because people with higher wages can afford lawyers to sue


[06-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The lower the wages the more desperate the employee, more likely to be on temp / part time, and less likely to cause a fuss of any kind


[06-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/88b0be/first_post_money_lost_each_year_to_theft_oc/

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First Post: Money lost each year to theft [OC]
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[06-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
this is the source of that infographic


[06-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
> My boss left 9 hours off my paycheck 2 cycles in a row. When I called attention to it he was happy to write a check to fix it. Then he cut my hours.


[06-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
> Could've been an error.
> 
> "Timmy should be working 32 hours a week. So that's what I pay him." Fast forward to finding the error. "Oops, here's your backpay, but we need to fix your hours."
> 
> Not everything is malicious. Although, this doesn't sound too smart either.


[06-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Specifically, I was working 4 days a week, 9 hours a day for a total 36 hours a week. Two biweekly checks in a row an entire day was left off, and the day after he wrote me the check fixing it, he told me I had to go back to 8 hours a day, stripping me of 8 hours per paycheck.


[06-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like they didn't want to pay overtime or something


[06-Oct-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/rzstprogramming/status/1180585156584697857

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[06-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
sigh


[06-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.fastcompany.com/40420451/companies-steal-15-billion-from-their-employees-every-year

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Companies Steal $15 Billion From Their Employees Every Year
The amount of money employers take from their employees each year–by refusing to pay overtime or misclassifying workers so they don’t get minimum wage–is larger than the value of all the theft by criminals.
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[06-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Now who's gonna make sure the witness' assailant is going to get a proper trial


[06-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
It's literally out of a TV show. Witness convicts cop; cops kill witness.


[06-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Something, something, society


[06-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Goose#3034

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[06-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Goose#3034
for future boogaloo


[06-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you need a full auto weapon in the US?


[06-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if there's a zombie apocalypse, the zombies are too fat and slow to swarm you.


[06-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're better off with the increased accuracy of semi auto to gun them down one at a time.


[06-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
To help wipe out schools obviously


[06-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
See that's just poor planning, schools don't hav the requisite density.


[06-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's why you get em all in an auditorium


[06-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEATERS, however...


[06-Oct-19 04:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOkAWvDMnHU

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[06-Oct-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[06-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Goose#3034
fully auto is useful for covering fire, doing bursts, and crowds uwu


[06-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Mikey#7286
why would anyone need to know that

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[06-Oct-19 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Not even close to a complete list https://i.redd.it/j53uywxzgqq31.jpg

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[06-Oct-19 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JustinWhang/status/1179543806015918081

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Say what you want about Beto, it's kind of fucked up that they euthanized him.
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[06-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get it


[06-Oct-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
bruh look at the shovel man they're totally ready to just bury him.


[06-Oct-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
His campaign's been terminal forever.


[06-Oct-19 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's time to put ol' yeller down


[06-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
meh, he'll likely be much bigger in a decade


[06-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
at the current rate of change, he'll have to do more than just pay lip service to leftist ideals though


[06-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Litrojia#0612
lol he was never ready to run


[06-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Litrojia#0612
he was riding what little momentum he had from last year, then buttigieg stole his base, who himself faded into irrelevance one the media got tired of him


[06-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
it's because beto is young biden, and buttigieg is gay young biden


[06-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
in terms of policies


[06-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
they're all neoliberal plants who would do the bare minimum required to gain the support of leftists


[06-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure "plants" is the right term...


[06-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democrats pretending to be leftist is a fairly recent development


[06-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
not really, democrats have always paid lip service to leftists


[06-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
because obviously the leftists would never vote for a republican because they pay lip service to conservatives


[06-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's how the democratic and republican parties have split up the country for the past 40-50 years


[06-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
but now an actual conservative has managed to get elected and has basically co-opted the entire republican party, and leftists are rising up to oppose him, just like antifascists flocked to europe from around the world (mainly the US) to fight the fascists in both italy and germany nearly a decade before the US entered the war


[06-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
both conservatives and leftists gaining popularity in the US are a response to the rampant neoliberalism making everything shit for the average person over the past 40 years


[06-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
and now things are accelerating at a rapid pace because of trump basically


[06-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism itself isn't an ideal of conservatives, but they don't hate it


[06-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It heavily aligns with American Conservative beliefs.


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is also a fundamentally right ideal


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism basically removes any restraints preventing the top of the pyramid from rising higher by burning the bottom


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
which is how the democratic party tricked people


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives *value the pyramid*


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually every time a Conservative is mad


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
look at what they're saying under the lens of them thinking the wrong people are being put on top


[06-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
or being removed from the top


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
consider whether their real argument is "brown people should stay on the bottom"


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will almost never see anything else.


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
or if they're upset that someone is not "where they belong"


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what it boils down to.


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see someone who was born in Mexico being even given a *chance* of having a good life and they are mad.


[06-Oct-19 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
or someone born in the states who has it way worse than a mexican


[06-Oct-19 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
and complains that the mexican stole his job


[06-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
basically, conservatives view neoliberalism as an effective tool to create the authoritarian society they desire, but they don't actually feel that neoliberalism in and of itself should be what society is based off of


[06-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
One real fun way to piss them off is to point out Mexico has medicare for all and cheaper drugs


[06-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want an authoritarian society


[06-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want a caste system.


[06-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
While claiming they want a meritocracy.


[06-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole argument is that the upper tiers got there by being better people.


[06-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that if you're poor, it's your own fault.


[06-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Damn these Irish potato farmers, they're just lazy, so what if they starve?


[06-Oct-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And any time you actually propose a change that makes things meritocratic


[06-Oct-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
they say it's just the gov't putting down the hard-working CEOs


[06-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
See also: Feudalism.


[06-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately Feudalism is where this all comes from


[06-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Manors and serfs and lords and nobles.


[06-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
To this day we romanticize it often.


[06-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It probably wouldn't be near as bad if we hadn't had a whole long period of slaveownership in the US


[06-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just served to cement the ideas.


[06-Oct-19 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Oct-19 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Oct-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Even the judge was like "the fuck is wrong with you?" to the prosecutors on the latter case


[06-Oct-19 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
The only reason the sentence stuck is because the kid was tried as an adult and plead out


[06-Oct-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2019/08/23/dont-panic-amazon-burning-is-mostly-farms-not-forests/

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Don't Panic: Amazon Burning Is Mostly Farms, Not Forests
"A picture is worth a thousand words" is one of the dumbest aphorisms ever coined. Speaking as a former television
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/BrazilRainforestUlfHuebnerDreamstime-1200x630.jpg


[06-Oct-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
> So why are there so many fires? "Natural fires in the Amazon are rare, and the majority of these fires were set by farmers preparing Amazon-adjacent farmland for next year's crops and pasture," soberly explains The New York Times. "Much of the land that is burning was not old-growth rain forest, but land that had already been cleared of trees and set for agricultural use."


[06-Oct-19 08:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"don't worry, all those acres of fire in the Amazon are bits of land we've already destroyed forever"


[06-Oct-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
as much as I trust reason for their reporting on unfair government treatment and violations of the constitution, they're still libertarians who don't really care about environmental issues


[06-Oct-19 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how you even get a job in a cooperative


[06-Oct-19 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
as much as I look into cooperatives and as much as there's tons of information pointing towards them being both better to work for and better-performing than corporations and corporate-style businesses, there doesn't seem to actually be any cooperatives around to be hired by


[06-Oct-19 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
and the only thing I can find online are businesses with "cooperative" in their name, not actual cooperative businesses


[06-Oct-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently one role that I discovered that cooperatives often fill are as energy companies


[06-Oct-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
while the energy company that basically has a monopoly in california is "an American investor-owned utility (IOU) with publicly traded stock"


[06-Oct-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
which sound absolutely terrible just from the face of it


[06-Oct-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
(it's Pacific Gas and Electric, or PG&E, aka pig goat and elephant)


[06-Oct-19 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure they're very common in america. most of the news about them i;ve read has been from the uk


[06-Oct-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cooperatives#United_States i foudn a list of them on wikipedia for america, i don't knwo how up to date it is

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This is a list of notable co-operative enterprises by country. Co-operatives are business organizations owned and operated by a group of individuals for their mutual benefit.
For a list of Co-operative Federations, please see List of co-operative federations.


[06-Oct-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/protesters-plan-to-topple-hk-government-new-manifesto-for-provisional-government-recited-senior-government-officials-to-be-dimissed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

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Protesters plan to topple HK government, new manifesto for provisi...
5th October 2019 – (Hong Kong) Clashes broke out at multiple districts yesterday evening including Wong Tai Sin, Sha Tin, TST and Causeway Bay and Wan Chai etc. Many protesters gathered at different locations including MOSTown in Ma On Shan to recite the new manifesto for ...
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[06-Oct-19 03:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the point of fire: fire bakes the land it's on top of under and around it. It may activate some seeds, but it also cooks out nutrients too and poisons the land under it. T'is why in organizations like the Boy Scouts they stress lighting fires ONLY where they've been lit before to minimize the damaged area. Otherwise it can take a long time to get the soil back to what it was before, and longer still for shit to grow.


[06-Oct-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2348fb048cc34bc1a8265e0ce3033c6f

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N. Korea threatens to end talks due to 'hostile' US policy
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Sunday that it won't meet again with the United States unless it abandons its "hostile policy" against the North, as the two countries offered different...
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[06-Oct-19 05:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-explodes-democrats-ratchet-impeachment-push-n1061281

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Trump's day of rage: Profanity, false accusations and a press spat
The president lashed out at Hill Democrats as House leaders announced a fresh round of potential White House subpoenas.
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[06-Oct-19 05:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
reeee

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[06-Oct-19 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464531-attorney-says-hes-representing-multiple-trump-whistleblowers-from

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Attorney says he's representing second Trump whistleblower from in...
Attorney Andrew P. Bakaj on Sunday confirmed that his firm is representing another whistleblower in connection to a formal complaint about President Trump's alleged interactions with Ukraine.
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[06-Oct-19 06:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
dEeP sTaTe


[06-Oct-19 06:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Curious that he could get that conversation completely wrong and yet nail all of the points in the memorandum months before its release with all that secondhand info...


[06-Oct-19 06:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
obviously he was coached by Schiff and his creepy future-predicting powers


[06-Oct-19 06:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49918889

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HK set to announce ban on face masks at protests
Authorities plan to invoke emergency powers on Friday to impose the ban at public gatherings.
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[06-Oct-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, that will totally work, they totally won't wear anymore facemasks ever again. Yep, totally


[06-Oct-19 06:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/sc-euVL8xQs

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Deutschland by Rammstein: An Analysis
DU HAST MICH =Support me via= ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/ThreeArrows? ► TipJar: https://ko-fi.com/threearrows ► Merch: https://www.teepublic.com...
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[06-Oct-19 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit#Bullshit_asymmetry_principle

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Bullshit (also bullcrap) is a common English expletive which may be shortened to the euphemism bull or the initialism B.S. In British English, "bollocks" is a comparable expletive. It is mostly a slang term and a profanity which means "nonsense", especially as a rebuke in res...


[06-Oct-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people be anonymous in their public gatherings.


[06-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti mask laws exist in the US

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[06-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I was talking with someone who said Antifa was the worst danger in this country and for some reason wanted to talk about Zoe Quinn a lot


[06-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He also said every single president has done qpq for political motives


[06-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't like Trump and insists he has no supporters, but seems to dislike what he sees as hypocrisy


[06-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/333965/firing-mods-and-forced-relicensing-is-stack-exchange-still-interested-in-cooper

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The last weeks and days have seen some erratic behaviour by Stack Exchange Inc., such as likely illegal changes to the content license and the firing of an upstanding community moderator with no
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[06-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Thanos'd


[06-Oct-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Game industry would crawl to a halt if stack exchanged died overnight


[06-Oct-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/giuliani-shushes-screams-at-foxs-kurtz-while-spouting-biden-conspiracies-you-wont-let-me-get-a-sentence-out/

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Rudy Giuliani Shushes, Screams at Fox News' Howard Kurtz
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani shushed and shouted at Fox News' Howard Kurtz during an interview Sunday, saying the Fox News host "should be ashamed" for
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[06-Oct-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon it seems like it's probably going to die completely in the next few years


[06-Oct-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
from both legal issues and just plain running out of money


[06-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's unsustainable


[06-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
Funny they even spelled his name wrong


[06-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't demand constant growth all the time


[06-Oct-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The market can't handle all of these games that demand your daily attention


[06-Oct-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Something will give


[06-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
TV interviewers should have a mute button for guests


[06-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure they do


[06-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's Fox News


[06-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
*Should use it


[06-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd rather Giuliani shout at them.


[06-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it look like there's lively debate among conservatives


[06-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that people are more comfortable taking Giuliani's lies at face value.


[06-Oct-19 08:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also just in case anyone forgot, one of the two senior white house officials on Trump's impeachment defense strategy is none other than wunderkind Jared Kushner (the man sitting to the left of President Zelensky in this photo) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFbl_QbXUAEaH0j.jpg

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[06-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm, my states senator says Bidens son needs to be investigated. Isn't at all weird that his wife is a lobbyist for Big Tobacco, one of the most prominent


[06-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No sir


[06-Oct-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
wow is he really that tall


[06-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is amazing to watch someone who knows he is corrupt as fuck and it looks bad so he just stays quiet


[06-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ir the rest that short


[06-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of some parts of Germany and Scandinavia, europeans are shorter than americans on average


[06-Oct-19 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
did not know that


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pumping food with hormones will do that yeah


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Totally normal to have puberty at 8! Don't question it!


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
uhh what hormones besides bovine growth hormone


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
am I missing something here


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That


[06-Oct-19 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, they stopped using that like 20 years ago


[06-Oct-19 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
and they weren't using it for very long as far as I know


[06-Oct-19 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin

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Bovine somatotropin or bovine somatotrophin (abbreviated bST and BST), or bovine growth hormone (BGH), is a peptide hormone produced by cows' pituitary glands. Like other hormones, it is produced in small quantities and is used in regulating metabolic processes. After the bio...
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[06-Oct-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I have never once been able to buy milk from cows treated with BGH


[06-Oct-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
it is prominently labeled on every bottle I buy that it does not contain it


[06-Oct-19 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/gm-lays-off-6000-workers-in-mexico-due-to-uaw-strike.html

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GM lays off 6,000 additional workers in Mexico due to UAW strike
General Motors on Tuesday idled a plant in Mexico that produces its highly-profitable Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups, temporarily laying off 6,000 workers.
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[06-Oct-19 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/10/04/sila-o04.html

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GM shuts down Silao complex in Mexico as workers’ rebellion brews
The decision to close Silao was likely aimed at preempting a simmering rebellion by workers who are making appeals for a joint struggle with US strikers.
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[06-Oct-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
eat the rich now

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[06-Oct-19 08:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1600006


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[06-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
>there's only one image tagged eat the rich


[06-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is either poor tagging or artists aren't doing their duty.


[06-Oct-19 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Oct-19 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Oct-19 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Oct-19 09:27 PM] illumnious#7938
You mean punch your own balls 10x harder and since when he made this account??

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[06-Oct-19 09:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hi twitter can u plz suspend this account


[06-Oct-19 09:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even know if it's done anything to violate your policies (who am I kidding ofc it has) I just want to see orange man explode


[06-Oct-19 09:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Hahaha


[06-Oct-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/630495120063463434/b5qqjamz8wq31.png

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[06-Oct-19 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah that's the part of "gun culture" that no one among my gun-toting friends wants to acknowledge, that the reply to "knock knock" is not "cease fire"


[06-Oct-19 10:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180939260146470912?s=21

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DRAIN THE SWAMP!
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[06-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'll build you a BIGGER BETTER SWAMP THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN'T TOUCH


[06-Oct-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you can all get out of it! Because it;s my swamp! MINE!


[06-Oct-19 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I play the best golf in MY SWAMP!


[06-Oct-19 11:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's because he only ever seems to play in the rough https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/626259709963272202/unknown.png

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[06-Oct-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his entire career has been in the rough, especially when he decided to build his untouchable swamp on it


[06-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my states House reps opposes impeachment and said "Now we can't pass laws about getting rape kits processed"


[06-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Oct-19 11:58 PM] illumnious#7938
:WAT:


[07-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/464581-chinese-basketball-suspends-ties-with-houston-rockets-after-manager

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China suspends ties with Houston Rockets after manager tweets supp...
The Chinese Basketball Association has suspended its relationship with the Houston Rockets after the team's general manager expressed support for protestors in Hong Kong in since-deleted Friday tweet.
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[07-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck off Winnie


[07-Oct-19 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
were they majorly banking off china for funding or is this just them losing winnie the pooh as a fan?


[07-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[07-Oct-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HA!


[07-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump drained the swamp by making it even swampier


[07-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], the community at stack should start their own coop :D


[07-Oct-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
stack exchange costs a _lot_ of money to run, I'm not sure they'd be able to raise the capital


[07-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) Chinese market is huge


[07-Oct-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they;re banking on chinese funding?


[07-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
they don't need it, no, they just want more money


[07-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rockets really do need the Chinese market though


[07-Oct-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
So, basically they don;t have enough american funding to hold thme up?


[07-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464580-white-house-dismisses-news-of-second-whistleblower-trump-has-done

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White House dismisses news of second whistleblower: Trump 'has don...
The White House defended President Trump on Sunday after reports emerged of a second whistleblower said to have firs
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[07-Oct-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b11873fcb1ed49cf9ad2d0bfdc38798c

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Iran says Chinese state oil firm withdraws from $5B deal
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — China's state oil company has pulled out of a $5 billion deal to develop a portion of Iran's massive offshore natural gas field, the Islamic Republic's oil minister said...
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[07-Oct-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the white house yelled fakenews and screamed REEEEE into a microphone for the 200th time?


[07-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[07-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Giuliani does it too


[07-Oct-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
giuliani is a disaster


[07-Oct-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was he this insane as a mayor of new york?


[07-Oct-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A lot less so


[07-Oct-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact a lot of his appeal at the time was owing to his busting up of the Italian mafia


[07-Oct-19 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
now he is the mob


[07-Oct-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now on one hand that's pretty :wat: but on the other hand...it's awfully suspicious that he was so successful in clearing out an organized crime syndicate but didn't *touch* the russian mob also active at the time


[07-Oct-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
crazy innit


[07-Oct-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like in retrospect all he did was put a big ol' open sign on the city


[07-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
giuliani also implemented the ineffectual stop and frisk policy for the NYPD that was proven to be ineffectual by multiple studies, both during and after the fact


[07-Oct-19 12:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
All the same, the level of nuclear meltdown the guy is on now is beyond belief


[07-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
maybe trump derangement syndrome is real, but it's actually caused by being in close contact with trump for too long


[07-Oct-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump derangement syndrome goes the opposite way republicans use it for


[07-Oct-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is them who have it and it;s been one big no u this whole time


[07-Oct-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But yeah I can kind of see how being Trumps personal lawyer can drive a man to the brink of nuclear insanity


[07-Oct-19 12:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
being the only one that stayed, anyway


[07-Oct-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Everything Trump does is borderline illegal and eventually you go insane trying to justify it all


[07-Oct-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, he tries to do everything and it's literally up to people around him to say "but Mr. President, that's illegal"


[07-Oct-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the problem is that he perceives this as disloyalty and has systematically replaced everyone who says this to his face


[07-Oct-19 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
and then he goes "I'm the fucking president, you gonna stop me?"


[07-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Article Two!


[07-Oct-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
WITCH NEWS!


[07-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, but according to him, direct quote, "Article One...lets me do whatever I want"


[07-Oct-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it absolutely does not do that


[07-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he 100% said this


[07-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://theweek.com/speedreads/854487/trump-have-article-2-where-have-right-whatever-want-president

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Trump: 'I have an Article 2 where I have the right to do whatever ...
Article II of the United States Constitution bestows executive power on the office of the presidency. For example, the article establishes the president as the commander-in-chief of the military and grants the office the power of pardons. But it's also sandwiched between Arti...
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[07-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(it was two)


[07-Oct-19 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah yeah my bad


[07-Oct-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please tell me he has an aneurysm in the next few days out of anger


[07-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well if that whistleblower protest takes off he just might. You know, the one where people literally plan to blow whistles at him all the time


[07-Oct-19 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will play the vuvuzella if it furthers that cause


[07-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's easier to sneak a whistle into a rally


[07-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464589-trump-told-republicans-he-doesnt-want-impeachment-on-his-resume

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Trump told Republicans he doesn't want impeachment on his 'resume'...
President Trump privately told House Republicans that he is worried about the effect impeachment would have on his legacy, Axios r
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[07-Oct-19 12:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what


[07-Oct-19 12:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh boy


[07-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Easy way to fix it bruh


[07-Oct-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump you own businesses, why the fuck would it matter whats on your resume, you hire yourself


[07-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, to him, the US gov't is just another business [to run into the ground without consequences]


[07-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea he would be blamed for the problems he caused is contrary to what his entire life has been about.


[07-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odd that he seemed to care that it was going to help the House Minority Leader


[07-Oct-19 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
winning™


[07-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The California GOP is fukking dead


[07-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard to take the House back with that


[07-Oct-19 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/IggUlU9

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Sweet Christmas.
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[07-Oct-19 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
oh dear


[07-Oct-19 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*sniff*


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, that's not real sudafed


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the fake shit placebo sudafed


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK stuff is?


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
he probably acted high because he mixed it with another drug or just because he expected to feel high


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[07-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
phenylephrine DOES NOT WORK


[07-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you can get pseudoephedrine in the UK without a prescription


[07-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Not that it'd necessarily be hard to get, just annoying


[07-Oct-19 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
If he's snorting adderall and meth and mixing that with day drinking that would make more sense to me


[07-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well do note


[07-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's corroboration of the claim.


[07-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's big thing is most of the "evidence" against him in any given role tends to be rumor


[07-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is easy to downplay


[07-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He hires lawyers to find alleged compromising recordings and destroy them


[07-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's sloppy too.


[07-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh fuuuuukk https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/10/6/20901317/amber-guyger-botham-jean-witness-joshua-brown

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Joshua Brown, a key witness in the murder trial against Amber Guyg...
Days after the former Dallas cop was sentenced to 10 years for killing Botham Jean, Brown was shot outside his new apartment complex.
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[07-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure that was linked here yesterday


[07-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A tweet was, it seems


[07-Oct-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/rN_CExGhqjg

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https://youtu.be/rN_CExGhqjg
The Outcome of the PragerU Lawsuit
The Reason article: https://reason.com/2019/09/04/youtube-is-not-the-government/ The Court's first decision (March 2018): https://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/...
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[07-Oct-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the free market: free for anyone as long as it doesn't inconvenience us specifically

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[07-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-hotel-washington-dc-bribery-investigation-rooms-a9143236.html

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The newest revelation in an investigation into the administration
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[07-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
btw, I told my mom about this, she says that it's foreign officials trying to make trump look bad


[07-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
says that it isn't trump's fault that they're buying hotel rooms from his hotels without actually staying in them


[07-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
how can it possibly be his fault? There's no action or reaction. Feels like someone is really grasping for straws already.


[07-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
guess he's doing better than I thought if this is what his opposition is reduced to.


[07-Oct-19 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is exactly the sort of thing the emoluments clause is to prevent


[07-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
/gracefully ignores _everything else_


[07-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
> Upon taking office, Mr Trump put his holding in a trust, but can still receive money from that trust without the public’s knowledge at any moment.


[07-Oct-19 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, they're just putting money into a Trump-held business with plausible deniability, and Trump does in fact have access to that trust fund (and does not need to disclose if he takes money from it)...so it's impossible to *know*


[07-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
basically, anyone can bribe trump without the public's knowledge at any given time


[07-Oct-19 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even if that wasn't what they were up to, this would also make a convenient way for the not-guests to launder money


[07-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
the concern is about the fact that he can violate the emoluments clause at any given time without us knowing


[07-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
and we know that foreign officials are buying rooms at his hotels without actually staying in them


[07-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
which is highly suspicious behavior


[07-Oct-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, these people are rich and powerful enough they could stay anywhere they want


[07-Oct-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's literally no reason for them to book rooms in his hotels


[07-Oct-19 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause clearly it's not because they want to stay there, because they *don't*


[07-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well, why would that be not discussed instead? These problems aren't new.


[07-Oct-19 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what makes you think that's an "instead"


[07-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
both can happen at once


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What we're talking about here is foreign diplomats staying wherever, but also booking rooms in Trump's hotels and not staying there. They aren't booking, say, a Day's Inn and also not staying there either


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're from all over, too


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only commonality to this pattern of behavior is Trump


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
> In a previously unreported aspect of the House Oversight Committee's far-reaching investigation, members are looking into the issue after receiving information that a trader association and a foreign government had booked a large number of rooms, but only used a few other them.


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
if that would be discussed, it would be discussed for a while now. And either proven to be impossible to/not requiring a fix (rending this issue moot) or fixed.


[07-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's only recently come out btw, this is a pretty new detail


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
no, the fact that this system is in place and he can use it like he does. Is that new?


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Though we have been discussing Trump's failure to obey the emoluments clause since day one


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
people have been concerned about it since the possibility of it happening has always been there


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
before day 1, actually


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Carter's peanut farm etc etc


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
well. If nothing has changed since then, I highly doubt something will now.


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
and it's only a couple days ago that it came out that the concerns were justified


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what's changed


[07-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we have solid evidence


[07-Oct-19 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the suspicion is old, the confirmation is new


[07-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
solid evidence against a system that shouldn't exist according to law in the first place :/ Fair enough, I suppose.


[07-Oct-19 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's really what a LOT of the hullabaloo in Washington is right now. All these things that we've suspected all along but couldn't get the persons of interest to cough up relevant info on...now material evidence is just coming out their ears. Or in the case of Trump and his closest associates, their mouths


[07-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/625880236772294658


[07-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon right. Yeah, I can see the pattern.


[07-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
most presidents usually completely disconnect from their businesses due to the possibility of violating the emoluments clause


[07-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
...or at least are more subtle about it.


[07-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, everyone knows that there's all sorts of ways for the president to take indirect bribes (it's called "lobbying")


[07-Oct-19 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know what another word for stonewalling is? Obstruction of justice. Remember, this whole tax returns thing has been dragging out just because the guy who was *legally required* to provide them said "no" and then it turns out no one really knew what to do if they said "no," because the DOJ that's supposed to provide those consequences also said "no" to following the law


[07-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
and lobbying is how many politicians are basically bought out by rich people


[07-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
because only the rich can afford to lobby


[07-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you still have that chart that shows how lobbying affects how laws are voted for?


[07-Oct-19 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's also kinda notable that in the middle of Trump just openly releasing the "rough transcript" memorandum of the Zelensky call because he, against the better wishes of his advisors, didn't think it was a big deal...is fighting something like 3 or 4 lawsuits over the release of his tax returns because that *is* a big deal to him


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, I was wondering when Zelensky would come up xD


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well I mean it is exactly the kind of thing that Mueller was tasked with establishing evidence of


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm from Ukraine. And delighted to realise we're now known worldwide as 'fucked-up place with a retard in charge that shits on his allies in the middle of a war'


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then Trump and went and established more of it on national TV


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not the impression I got at all


[07-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
not just lawsuits, but straight up laws being passed which require presidential nominees to release the last 5-10 years of their tax returns in order to qualify for the state ballot


[07-Oct-19 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the impression I got from the call readout was "oh my god, Zelensky is barely managing to hold back on this fucking moron"


[07-Oct-19 03:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, the "ukraine has a terrible leader" line is coming out of Moscow, not Washington


[07-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
huh, okay.


[07-Oct-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If anyone is the issue it;s trump who dragged zelensky into it


[07-Oct-19 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if you've seen the Volker texts


[07-Oct-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is currently attempting to drag every world leader possible intot his biden hunt down


[07-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
the US government is so corrupt it makes Venezuela look like an upstanding nation


[07-Oct-19 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not just a biden discrediting. They're also working around the clock to discredit Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation


[07-Oct-19 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
based on some wacky, debunked conspiracy theories from an alt-right news site


[07-Oct-19 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, Trump seriously still believes the crowdstrike theory


[07-Oct-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
crowdstrike theory?


[07-Oct-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
the one he called ukraine for


[07-Oct-19 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That the massive Russian hacking operation that attacked the DNC and various other aspects of the election was actually a lone cell operating out of Ukraine


[07-Oct-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And also that the guy that promised Papadopalous the "dirt" on Hillary was a CIA plant working to undermine the Trump campaign


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's really fucking stupid


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Qanon level crazy shit


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
right. The walls close in. The shadows whisper of conspiracy.


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is what Barr was in Italy for


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the conspiracy here is the criminal kind


[07-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the one where you plan and execute a series of crimes


[07-Oct-19 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Seriously, one of the stops on his trip was to pick up an alleged tape on the go-between. The *Attorney General of the US* personally flew overseas to be an errand boy


[07-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
there was a chart that showed that what the bottom 90% income voters cared about vs what they didn't care about ended up only having a 33% chance of a bill being passed, no matter how much or how little they cared about the bill, but that the chances of a bill increased nearly linearly from nearly 0% to almost 80% based on how much the top 10% income voters cared about the bill


[07-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I do remember that chart


[07-Oct-19 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I don't think it's just a show of loyalty to the president. When it turned out that Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and hero tasked with such menial things as "bringing peace to the middle east" was once again selected to head up Trump's impeachment defense, my reaction was "Oh. The president knows ten people."


[07-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464593-trump-associates-pressured-ukraine-over-gas-firm-in-order-to-benefit

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[07-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
also yeah, I've not seen anyone calling zelensky an idiot/retard/fuck-up/whatever, only trump


[07-Oct-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has thrown so many people under the bus that the bus is starting to get stuck in place


[07-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow the sentiment _seems to be_ very different here. But now I'm starting to wonder if finally Russian information campaign didn't hit a motherlode and actually managed to seem legit.


[07-Oct-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
our media are so focused on the impeachment drama right now that they aren't covering too much world politics


[07-Oct-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't have any strong opinion on Zelensky, though I did find the "Monica Zelensky" thing funny


[07-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Absolutely nobody in "the west" is looking at this as if Zelensky did anything wrong


[07-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've not seen anyone in the US blaming zelensky for trump being a sleazy fuck


[07-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
surprisingly enough, even the conservative media who are rabidly defending trump haven't tried to lay the blame on zelensky either


[07-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The view is that he's in massively shitty situation and Trump is using him to attack political rivals at home; Z can't say no to Trump and after it spilled out he can't say anything at all because he's fucked either way


[07-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda reassuring to know. People over here maybe overemphasise Zelensky's failures, even those that seem loyal.


[07-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
he's a contentious figure. An actor playing a president on TV that got to be the president with overwhelming majority of votes (73% or smth)


[07-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
well yeah, he's literally the only thing standing between ukraine remaining sovereign and russia taking over


[07-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
russia's best interest is to see zelensky fail


[07-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
obviously.


[07-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
our previous president had his faults but they couldn't really bring him down. Now they're bound to try again.


[07-Oct-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464589-trump-told-republicans-he-doesnt-want-impeachment-on-his-resume

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[07-Oct-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
resign, then, idiot


[07-Oct-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
it is all but certain you'll be impeached


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Trump?


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Resign?


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Mikey#7286
Nahhh


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Mikey#7286
his ego is too big for that


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he can't or else he'll suddenly have to face all those federal cases just waiting for him to be out of office


[07-Oct-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's only winning move is to declare himself above the law and president for life


[07-Oct-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ofc, he needs Barr to make that happen


[07-Oct-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Barr seems to have no qualms with that


[07-Oct-19 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's what he does best


[07-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
that'd be a sight.


[07-Oct-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
obviously you don't do that all at once, no. The strategy is to hold an election and then declare it a sham


[07-Oct-19 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
place the blame on the one group that stands to upset your power


[07-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Mikey#7286
i seriously doubt he'd attempt that without serious pushback or being taken out in cuffs


[07-Oct-19 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's always tested these ideas out as "jokes" for his base first to judge reaction, then announce it publicly, then do it for real. He's already done the first 2 steps


[07-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
he could do it, there's nobody stopping him from all the other constitutional violations


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
would the military remove him from office


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I am wondering at this point


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Mikey#7286
probably


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the forces hate his guts


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would probably attempt it, it;s pretty much predicted that if he loses the 2020 election that he'll attempt a coup and declare himself king isntead of president much as turkey did


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Mikey#7286
no one but his close cronies actually support him


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire GOP supports him


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're spineless cowards


[07-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Mikey#7286
not even Mitchy boy actually cares about him


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of the infamous "14 indicators of fascism" list, I count Trump as ticking off 12 of them. The only 2 he's missing out on are supporting a strong military and supressing the arts


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch doesnt give a fuck about trump, but trump is his key to power so to speak so he;s going to defend that


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
moscow mitch is certainly banking his entire career on trump to not care about him


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When it comes to action, no GOP elected official will do shit


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Mikey#7286
they "support" him out of fear or the fact that they're a hivemind


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I think the GOP supports him only because they know they're going to get destroyed by him and his electoral base if they don't


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
remember that 35 figure


[07-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Mikey#7286
exactly


[07-Oct-19 03:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet I've heard rumblings among my republican friends that they fear there are enough RINOs ("like Romney") in the Senate to actually impeach


[07-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd take just 4-5 GOP senators to go "hey, this is BS" to cause others to do the same, but it'd fracture the party


[07-Oct-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now he is the support beam of the GOP


[07-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
This is the thing you told me about in 2015


[07-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
you said Hillary would win and it would be the death of the republican party


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We'd get Libertarians Plus, WASPs, Tea Party, Good Old Boys, and Straight Up Nazis


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
well, she didn't win, but we are getting the death of the republican party


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
it's literally tearing itself apart


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
too many rats


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
then i guess the military who have extreme disdain for him would escort him behind bars, and the GOP collapses anyways


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump promised if I voted for Hillary we'd have a president that would be investigated by the FBI from day 1. You know what? He was right


[07-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I vastly underestimated the greed of major news outlets


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
thanks Murdoch


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought at some point they'd stop covering the entertaining clown


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just FOX


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was all of them


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
indeed


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff no


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump si ratings gold


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is actually the thing I was going on about back in the 2016 election campaign cycle


[07-Oct-19 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will ride this circus train all the way off a cliff


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
same goes for school shootings etc


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nHlsUlYSY

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[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
`they "support" him out of fear or the fact that they're a hivemind`


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
would you believe I've heard this exact phrase aimed at democrats too many times before xD


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
`2015-09-29 20:07:40    @TheSmilingPony    Seriosuly, I'd rather vote Trump, because that clown will just get kicked out in half a year while Clinton could last most of a decade`


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
oops


[07-Oct-19 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've had it aimed at *me*


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually it;s conservatives yellign it about democrats, yeah


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean the dems are just as spineless so


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't in the end, mind


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
`2016-03-11 21:58:26    @TheSmilingPony    Part of me want Pres Trump just to see a meeting with him and Putin`


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes dude


[07-Oct-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"democrats are all the same," like excuse me have you seen the ideological dumpster fire I'm dealing with


[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
see pinned infographic https://i.redd.it/rmq9t9gdgjq31.jpg

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[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats are splintered as fuck right now


[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
not really


[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Mikey#7286
i said they're spineless, not criminals


[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats are split between neolibs and progressives


[07-Oct-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the splintering


[07-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
maybe the mainstream democrats are splintered, but there's been a lot of leftist movement to organize


[07-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I was hoping for Trump not prostrating himself before he even became president, like, an actual vs and not this tsun tsun shit...


[07-Oct-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's been this way forever


[07-Oct-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
`2016-08-02 02:24:02    @TheSmilingPony    I'm kinda hoping for a Trump presidency just on the offchance he completely fucks relations with the entire middle east beyond possible repair`


[07-Oct-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
✅


[07-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
`this is actually the thing I was going on about back in the 2016 election campaign cycle`
`same goes for school shootings etc`


[07-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
what did you mean by that, btw? Got really curious.


[07-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who and what?


[07-Oct-19 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
news riding the ratings train for all it;s worth i assume


[07-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
also, I've been called a brainless piece of shit by my mom because I read a bunch of scientific articles that laid out much more convincing evidence of human-caused global warming than the constant head in the sand parroting of the "it isn't happening lalala" bullshit that I heard for a decade from the conservative talking heads my mom listens to


[07-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
and a cultist


[07-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
and a member of a hivemind


[07-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
etc


[07-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
I'm still convinced Trump ran to gain publicity before he eventually croaks, the man's a goddamn celebrity


[07-Oct-19 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, what I meant is that breathless media coverage of systemic problems creates a positive feedback loop that exacerbates the problems


[07-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon not only did he fuck relations with the middle east beyond repair, he fucked relations with the entire world beyond all repair


[07-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
not that they were much good since bush left office, but jesus


[07-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
it's all down the toilet now


[07-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Mikey#7286
and then became friendly with dictators


[07-Oct-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
leader of the reeeeeeee world


[07-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Think about the TV deal you could get as the first president removed from office


[07-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[07-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In my head I knew he'd fuck everything up


[07-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just expected people wouldn't just let him do it


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess those leather seats don't warm themselves


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's kind of prophetic to read those old irc logs


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon we had this sentiment over here.


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
'Dont look at Trump, look at the people around  him, THEY seem sane.'


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
well xD


[07-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not comfortable with what he does, but like shit gets done


[07-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Ocasio-Cortez were president and constantly doing obnoxious/damage control requiring things


[07-Oct-19 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Imagine if she were on the FEC


[07-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Democrats would put up with it because it means appointments, it means policy, and it means power


[07-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We'd get a tweet like "Borders are being flung open to all tomorrow" or "Saying I can't pack the court is bullshit, I can add fifty justices if I want" and there would be scrambling


[07-Oct-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I get that this is for the sake of argument, but I really doubt Ocasio-Cortez would do something like that


[07-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[07-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even still now Democrats can act like it


[07-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the worst thing that fox news could say about obama in his first 100 days is that he had dijon mustard on his sandwich


[07-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Mikey#7286
thanks obama


[07-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-WnoZbjdh4

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[07-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
god damn, that video at the end of trump eating a slice of pizza with a fork was an amazing touch


[07-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've eaten pizza with a knife and fork several times...


[07-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Granted it was for the sort of pizzas you're supposed to do that


[07-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/thousands-protest-ukraine-leaders-peace-plan/ar-AAIm1L9

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Thousands protest Ukraine leader's peace plan
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[07-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Ukrainian leader has been nicknamed "Monica Zelensky" by some critics after his phone call with Donald Trump that may lead to the US president's impeachment. The nickname is an allusion to the onetime White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, who nearly brought down the presidency of Bill Clinton."


[07-Oct-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Lewinsky didn't bring down the presidency


[07-Oct-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the Republicans did


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clinton should have just admitted he got his dick sucked in the oval office


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine getting impeached for lying about a blowjob.


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
the ironic part is that impeaching clinton actually made him more popular


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still lost in 2000


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
it was his second term


[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[07-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
unless this is some kind of joke I'm not privy to


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
clinton literally couldn't run in 2000


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just looked straight at the camera and said "Yeah, I got a BJ in this same chair I'm speaking to you right now"


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gore lost, I mean


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't it super close?


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
that's been the cycle for awhile


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was Florida fucked everything up again close


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gore didn't want to contest the Hanging Chads in Florida.


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
democrat -> republican -> democrat -> republican etc


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
And just sorta stopped.


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Florida did everything right and wanted the ballots recounted


[07-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS said "no, stop it"


[07-Oct-19 04:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because of "national unity" and fell in behind Bush


[07-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
SCOTUS fucked it


[07-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
neolibs gonna neolib


[07-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
that was purely a conservative thing


[07-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
not a neoliberal thing


[07-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
`democrat -> republican -> democrat -> republican etc`


[07-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I kind of wonder if this makes a consistent long-term policy pretty damn hard.


[07-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
although on the flipside it maintains the balance... sort of.


[07-Oct-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
any real goal of long term policy has sort of been shot to hell


[07-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
I mean that gore and bush were basically the same candidate economics-wise, and even a lot of their social issues were in line with each other


[07-Oct-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
no they weren't


[07-Oct-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf


[07-Oct-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/10/04/devos-violated-court-order-stop-collecting-debts-corinthian-college-students-now-they-want-her-held-contempt/


[07-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
... unless I'm missing something, they were both neoliberals


[07-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
gore wasn't interested in massive tax cuts for the rich


[07-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
everything I'm looking up is pointing towards them being pretty similar candidates


[07-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that was one difference


[07-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
he was largely interested in expanding federal funding for science


[07-Oct-19 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Massive tax cuts for the rich is like the GOP's number one ticket issue


[07-Oct-19 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
and of course the al qaeda thing


[07-Oct-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-06/ukrainian-official-false-stories-threatened-us-ukraine-relations

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[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
9/11 was 10 months after the election


[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
now I'm curious as to what gore's response to the 9/11 attack would've been


[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
war in afghanistan was inevitable


[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
but maybe we wouldn't have gone after iraq for fake WMDs


[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
in all likely gore wouldn't have _had_ a 9/11


[07-Oct-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
do you remember the massive trails of memos from top intelligence agencies that came out years later


[07-Oct-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
about how clinton was aggressively pursuing al qaeda and was aware they were hijacking planes


[07-Oct-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and about how bush was just like "LOL FUCK THAT"


[07-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bill-clintons-terrorism-strategy-led-to-911-hillary-clintons-is-the-exact-same-thing/2016/09/12/5aca1ca4-78fa-11e6-beac-57a4a412e93a_story.html


[07-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
I don't, actually


[07-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
I found this article saying that clinton caused 9/11 though


[07-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
which sounds dumb


[07-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
> Why were terrorists emboldened to attack us on 9/11? Because, during Bill Clinton’s eight years in office, they had waged a virtually unimpeded offensive against the United States. On Clinton’s watch, terrorists launched a string of escalating attacks, each one bolder than the last: the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993; the attack on Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia three years later; the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; and the 2000 attack on the USS Cole.


[07-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
> Each of these attacks was carried out with no effective U.S. response. Clinton employed a combination of law enforcement (the arrest of Ramzi Yousef for the World Trade Center bombing) and symbolic, pinprick cruise-missile strikes — firing, in the words of President George W. Bush, “a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent [to] hit a camel in the butt.” The terrorists were allowed to maintain their haven in Afghanistan, where they planned the 9/11 attacks, which was well underway – including the deployment of some of the hijackers to the United States — before Clinton left office.


[07-Oct-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

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Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US
Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US was the title of the President's Daily Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency and given to U.S. President George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001.  The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats...
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[07-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
just from the wording of the article, it's obvious the writer has some bias against clinton


[07-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, I would've been 9 at the time that memo was leaked, and 11 when the memo was officially released


[07-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
and even my mom wasn't big into conservative politics at that time


[07-Oct-19 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was around 10 when 9/11 happened, i was a very confused child  because i didnt see it go down


[07-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
she didn't start listening to conservative talking heads until I was around 14-15 years old


[07-Oct-19 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and people got mad at me because they asked who i would vote for in an election and i didnt know anything about these people or what an election was and i chose bush probably because he was named bush


[07-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I remember my mom asked me who I would vote for when I was 7, and I picked gore because he was wearing a blue tie and blue is my favorite color


[07-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
and I remember she made a quip about how it was proof that kids shouldn't vote

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[07-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
About as good a reason as most voters use to pick


[07-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
it was a debate or something on television


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was part of a study, Crow, if you mean how only the top 10% really affect legislation while the common man has little to no effect as far as popular support of a bill vs. likelihood of passage.


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I was wondering if you still had the link


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I should probably make a folder for this shit lol


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think when i saw 9/11 happen i thought it was a tv movie interupting my usual tv cartoons, and didnt realize anything was wrong until school


[07-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
it would be a good pin too


[07-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
there was an announcement about the 9/11 attack at like 10 am in my third grade class


[07-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
west coast


[07-Oct-19 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn remember much of that day to be honest


[07-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
https://www.vox.com/2014/4/18/5624310/martin-gilens-testing-theories-of-american-politics-explained

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Study: Politicians listen to rich people, not you
Economic elites and interest groups affect policy, but the general public has little influence.
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[07-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4315381/Gilens1.png

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[07-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4315397/Gilens2.png

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[07-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the chart I saw was a bit more detailed than those, and it overlaid them as well


[07-Oct-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[07-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, that was what I was talking about


[07-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom wanted Clinton over Trump over Bernie because of ranking by attractiveness in the 2016 election


[07-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since then, she has realized that actually some presidents can do a shitton of damage in office.


[07-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
what about gore/bush


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No idea


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bush had a kinder smile


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
She barely talked politics before near the end of Obama's administration


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gore had a "I'm tolerating this social encounter" smile


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well actually, the middle, rather


[07-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I remember she didn't like Romney


[07-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, she didn't like his policies and saw him as just a strictly worse Obama


[07-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
I remember my mom disliking gore in 2000, but she really hates him now because of an inconvenient truth


[07-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
she keeps saying that me and my brother were "propagandized" in school because we watched an inconvenient truth a few times each


[07-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I don't think she took the 2016 primaries seriously


[07-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly when it was just Trump and Hillary, shit got real to her


[07-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've only seen it once I think


[07-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
but that's literally the only thing she says about how we were "propagandized", even though I keep telling her that high school was basically a nothingburger when it came to political stances


[07-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I've seen a few times relating to the matter is Who Killed The Electric Car?


[07-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pretty interesting movie


[07-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, the major car manufacturers WERE making electrics in the early 2000s


[07-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then all of a sudden they pulled everything out


[07-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and had them compacted and thrown away


[07-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
While trying to say they were just examining further stuff to do etc.


[07-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can bet your ass that if Teslas weren't a thing, there would not be practically any electric cars on the road.


[07-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, its competitors wouldn't exist.


[07-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is *demand* for electric cars, even when they're not very worthwhile costwise


[07-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is the major car manufacturers do not want to hav to retool.


[07-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
apparently a couple of european car manufacturers had a look at he blueprints for the model 3 and claimed that they couldn't make something as cheap and effective as it


[07-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
By providing electric cars at all, it starts to push things towards banning gas cars.


[07-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
well, it said "within a few years"


[07-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The car manufacturers knows this.


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
I'm seeing model 3s all over the place


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
granted, I'm in california


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
the funniest part about the model 3 is that it doesn't have "model 3" listed on the back, it just has the tesla logo


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tesla is very disruptive to the market and even if they themselves eventually fail, their effect is to change the nature of the market and make electric cars desirable to create.


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
you just know it's a model 3 because it doesn't have the model logo on it


[07-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These factories are set up to produce the same model of cars for the next dozen years


[07-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
granted, all 3 tesla vehicles are pretty distinctive styles


[07-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Changing the fundamentals of a chassis is a Big Deal for a factory


[07-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's part of the issue


[07-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
electric cars need a brand new everything pretty much in terms of manufacturing


[07-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It could take 20 years for Ford etc. to be able to compete properly with Tesla.


[07-Oct-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
what they really need is big honking batteries


[07-Oct-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
which only tesla has the vertical integration for


[07-Oct-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody else has them


[07-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but that's not *why* car makers wanted to kill them early on.


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
This happened before Tesla existed.


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the chassis and motors aren't anything they couldn't do already


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is, you hav all these factories and repair shops and such


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the top range of the model S is up to 370 miles per charge now


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
all tooled for gas cars


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
with the same size battery (still 100 kWh)


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you provide too many electric cars too fast


[07-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress starts making gas cars de facto illegal to make


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which then means you hav to change your entire business


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means there could be a decade of no profits


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
another problem is that there's no third party repairs for teslas yet


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
so once the warranty is done, you have to pay tesla thousands of dollars for even the most minor of repairs


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ford sees "a decade of no profits" and goes hell no


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence doing everything it can to prevent electric cars from ever existing.


[07-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Post-9/11 America and its excessive waste and navel gazing was absurd


[07-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We thought the Hummer was once a normal car


[07-Oct-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
yes that's because tesla is following the apple model


[07-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really sad it took selling electric cars as sports cars for them to take off


[07-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want to see fiction set in a world where Reagan was never elected


[07-Oct-19 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Neoliberalism would hold a slower course.


[07-Oct-19 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the phenomenon of the mass shooter may be delayed.


[07-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like where the character gets in their 1-seater electric city car that reaches 50 km/h to go pick up some marijuana cigarettes and beer

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[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
criminalization of marijuana predates reagan though


[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Major plot point happens at the solar recharging station


[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
I just wish I could find a coop to be hired by


[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think they actually exist


[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
they just wanted cannabis outlawed so they could lock up brown people so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[07-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
well, I know that patelco exists


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd be completely fine with Metric


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be noted electrics are perfect sports cars


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For the most part


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
yes, electric cars are amazing sports cars


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they utterly obliterate the physical limits that were keeping acceleration low on normal cars


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd still probably measure things by volume but like, anything else, sure


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clutch and all that is just dumb.


[07-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
tesla is claiming their new roadster will be able to go 0-60 in 1.8 seconds


[07-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
the only claim that I don't believe about their new roadster is the 600+ mile range on a single charge


[07-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
now THAT would be extraordinary


[07-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
and excessive


[07-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, any high-end car is still manual so you need a clutch


[07-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't drive a manual, figure most Americans can't either


[07-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
I wouldn't want to drive a manual lol


[07-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
the only time it would be useful would be racing, and I don't race


[07-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
what's going to end up happening is that those recent breakthroughs in more efficient internal combustible engines that'll double the current efficiency from about 15-18% to 30-32% will be combined with hybrid technology


[07-Oct-19 05:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pot was already pretty illegal under Reagan but the big scare under him was Crack and other white drugs, and he lead Congress in passing a number of incredibly harsh punitive measures for possession and sale that lays the bedrock for the modern drug war and incarceration infrastructure today. Reagan's world is the world where possession of crack is punished based on the estimation of how much more addictive it is to weed. So everyone dealing crack was getting sentences twenty times longer than any other drug sentence or more, serving multiple life-times even.


[07-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
while electric cars remain kinda off to the wayside for a few decades before picking back up


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the beginning of the three-strikes system was implemented, meaning people got life for doing even three mundane crimes.


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
crack is just as addictive as regular cocaine though


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of weed


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
the only difference is that blacks used crack more, whites used regular cocaine more


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally the same drug in a different form


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta say a rare wholesome boomer moment was when I was in DC with my parents and my mom kept asking "Why does it smell like a skunk got run over?"


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Of course, all of this was on the backdrop of Reagan facilitating the sale of Cocaine in the United States with the broad powers the intelligence community had in the name of Operation Condor and intervention in Central America.


[07-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and the point is to put blakks in jail


[07-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party has been trying to put blakks in jail as much as possible for 40 years


[07-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's been working.


[07-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And destroying the foundation of our society.


[07-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
did you hear that california is kicking out all private prisons


[07-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
and that includes 3 of 4 ICE detention centers


[07-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/12/california-private-prison-ban-immigration-ice

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California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers
Bill removes profit motive from incarceration and marks latest clash in state’s battle with Trump over treatment of immigrants
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[07-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it strange that Republicans claim Democrats were the racists during the Civil War but are the only ones fighting against removal of Confederate stuff?


[07-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
electrics aren't perfect sports cars


[07-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
they have fantastic acceleration but lower top speeds


[07-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
at least variants without transmissions, which add substantial weight mind you


[07-Oct-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I can drive manual and I don't find it hard


[07-Oct-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I would actually say that I prefer it since it requires me to be much more focused on the driving conditions


[07-Oct-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's way too easy to completely space out in an automatic


[07-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The shit you see people do while driving


[07-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't decide if the guy I saw reading a book was worse than the guy straight up eating a bowl of soup


[07-Oct-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie http://theoklahomaeagle.net/2019/10/01/woman-who-filmed-shooting-of-botham-jean-fired-from-job-in-retaliation-video/

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Woman Who Filmed Shooting Of Botham Jean Fired From Job In Retalia...
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[07-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well, being a survivor sucks.


[07-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
> According to her, people began contacting the pharmaceutical company where she worked claiming that she was a radical, anti-police and a Black extremist. As a result, she claims the company did not want the publicity and fired her as well as revoking the credentials of her profession.


[07-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
that sounds illegal


[07-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
and like a massive lawsuit


[07-Oct-19 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/pba3OAA.png

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Polarized
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[07-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The company's action is legal, sadly.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The action from the people is really not.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuuut you can't go after them easily.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
revoking her credentials sounds illegal


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how racism and fascism work on the ground level.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, employment law often givs employers all the power.


[07-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can ruin your career if they want.


[07-Oct-19 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
legal, hard-to-impossible to counter...


[07-Oct-19 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
things that come with digitalisation and publicity.


[07-Oct-19 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This whole "angry mob, must ruin life of people I disagree with" will have a boiling point soon


[07-Oct-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh what would help is employers having a backbone and saying "fukk off, you don't try to ruin our workers"


[07-Oct-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's literally no benefit to firing someone subject to a political online smear campaign like this.


[07-Oct-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, it's almost like tort reform, mandatory arbitration, and crippling of libel/slander laws turned out to be massive mistakes that hurt people in a digital age.


[07-Oct-19 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/us/politics/trump-turkey-syria.html

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Trump Endorses Turkish Military Operation in Syria, Shifting U.S. ...
The operation would sweep away American-backed Kurdish forces near the border in Syria. The White House said U.S. forces “will no longer be in the immediate area.”
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[07-Oct-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
> In a major shift in United States military policy in Syria, the White House said on Sunday that President Trump had given his endorsement for a Turkish military operation that would sweep away American-backed Kurdish forces near the border in Syria.


[07-Oct-19 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
history repeats itself, the US has abandoned the kurds again


[07-Oct-19 01:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/the-trump-administration-has-figured-out-how-to-get-rid-of-federal-workers-without-firing-them/

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Nathalie Baptiste
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While you’re busy reading Trump’s deranged tweets, his adminis...
"What a wonderful way to sort of streamline government."
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[07-Oct-19 01:33 PM] byte[]#2610
sigh


[07-Oct-19 01:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-amps-complaints-says-pelosi-030018865.html

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Trump amps up complaints, says Pelosi may be guilty of treason
U.S. President Donald Trump, under pressure as Democrats pursue an impeachment inquiry against him, lashed out at the top Democrat in Congress on Sunday, saying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be guilty of treason.  "Nancy Pelosi knew of all of the many Shifty Adam Schiff li...


[07-Oct-19 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
> “None of us believed it would happen,” Laura Dodson, the acting Vice President of the ERS union, told me. “He didn’t have the authority, it wasn’t backed by Congress, and every scientist in our field said don’t [move the office.]” The USDA inspector general issued a report saying that while Perdue had the legal authority to move the offices, congressional approval is needed before any agency can be reorganized. Perdue argued that that provision was unconstitutional and forged ahead.


[07-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
so basically, perdue doesn't have the authority to do what he did, but because no one challenged him on it, he went ahead with it anyway


[07-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
this is how the US dies


[07-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
no one willing to stand up for the constitution


[07-Oct-19 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
there's no way that trump doesn't be come a dictator, whether it's in a year or in 5 years


[07-Oct-19 01:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I know huffpost but https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d9a6309e4b0fc935edc4e27

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[07-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
umatrix really doesn't like guce.advertising.com


[07-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783

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'South Park' Scrubbed From Chinese Internet After Critical Episode
After the "Band in China" episode mocked Hollywood for shaping its content to please the Chinese government, Beijing has responded by deleting all clips, episodes and discussions of the Comedy Central show.
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[07-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
so, china proves the point of the episode


[07-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
maybe this will make people realize how much of an influence china is having on american media


[07-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I like when movies get points taken off for Chinese pandering


[07-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah it's super culturally engrained in China too


[07-Oct-19 04:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-reads-french-theory-on-the-intellectual-labor-of-dismantling-the-cultural-left

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It is often presumed that intellectuals have little or no political power. Perched in a privileged ivory tower, disconnected from the real world, embroiled in meaningless academic debates over specialized ... Read More
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[07-Oct-19 06:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[07-Oct-19 06:13 PM] ononim#8141
"I wish what US was less interventionalist"
*another finger of the monkey paw curls in*


[07-Oct-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-07/trump-loses-court-fight-to-keep-tax-records-secret-from-n-y-k1gfd80t


[07-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump won a last-minute reprieve from a court order that would have forced his accountants to immediately hand over his tax filings and other financial records. But he still must persuade an appeals court to reject the ruling against him, which called Trump’s claims of immunity “repugnant” to the U.S. Constitution.


[07-Oct-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that both witnesses that testified against her have had retaliation


[07-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
one was shot and killed, and the other was fired and blackballed


[07-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Opponent#3498
witnesses for what? She did something BEFORE the shooting as well?


[07-Oct-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/UzPfSsR.png

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[07-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Opponent#3498
you are the vote counts. Nothing more, nothing less. Beautiful.


[07-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, no, witnesses for the shooting


[07-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
basically neighbors that heard the gunshots and heard them talking/yelling


[07-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
oh. The previous article made it seem like there was just 3 actors, her, the guy she shot and the girl recording it who got slandered.


[07-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
I included the woman who got slandered in the list


[07-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
"one was shot and killed, and the other was fired and blackballed"


[07-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
the woman was fired and blackballed (a term meaning that she can no longer work in the career field she had, even if she were to go to another company)


[07-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
they stripped her of her credentials


[07-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, right.


[07-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
the stock market makes no sense, it was in freefall due to the new US tariffs on europe going into effect next week, now suddenly they're skyrocketing because of a china-US trade meeting


[07-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
it's like they suddenly completely forgot that there were billions of dollars of new tariffs at the drop of a hat


[07-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[07-Oct-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Stocks are dependent entirely on speculation, which is based more-or-less on emotional triggers to set the value of a stock. It's not a wholly rational process.


[07-Oct-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/215490201634603008/630656611626516501/1570344807000.jpg

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[07-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/mcaleenan-protest/index.html

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McAleenan leaves speech after being drowned out by protestors
Acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan was prevented from speaking at an event Monday morning in Washington after repeated interruptions by protesters.
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[07-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
> "The First Amendment guarantees all Americans the right to free speech and assembly," the statement reads, adding: "Unfortunately the Acting Secretary and the audience did not get the opportunity to engage in a robust dialogue this morning due to the disruptions of a few activists."


[07-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
the acting secretary is bound by his oaths of office, he cannot be considered a private citizen when he is acting in an official manner


[07-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
actually, do acting secretaries have to take the oaths?


[07-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/protesters-stage-die-in-at-wall-street-bull-statue-cover-it-with-blood-and-climb-atop-it.html

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Protesters stage 'die-in' at Wall Street bull statue, pour fake bl...
A group of protesters calling for action against climate change vandalized the iconic Wall Street charging bull on Monday, pouring red paint on it and climbing atop it.
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[07-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/paypal-pulls-facebooks-cryptocurrency-venture-libra/story?id=66110309&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_headlines_hed

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PayPal pulls out of Facebook's cryptocurrency venture Libra
Facebook's cryptocurrency project, Libra, has faced backlash from lawmakers and more since it was announced.
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[07-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
No, acting deputies do not have to take the oath


[07-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Nor do they have to be reviewed by Congress


[07-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
That's why they are there: they're Trump's cronies and the congressional review system has been bypassed entirely


[07-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-syria-troops/index.html

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Graham rips into Trump for removing troops from Syria
Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of President Donald Trump's strongest Republican defenders in Congress, blasted Trump Monday over his decision to remove US troops from northern Syria as Turkey plans a military offensive in the region, saying it was "shortsighted and irresponsible."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191001103539-03-lindsey-graham-file-super-tease.jpg


[07-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
> "This impulsive decision by the President has undone all the gains we've made, thrown the region into further chaos. Iran is licking their chops. And if I'm an ISIS fighter I've got a second lease on life. So to those who think ISIS has been defeated you will soon see," Graham said during an interview on Fox News' "Fox and Friends."


[07-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
> The comments from Graham came hours after the White House made the announcement Sunday night following a phone call between Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The move marks a major shift in US foreign policy and effectively gives Turkey the green light to attack US-backed Kurdish forces. The group, long considered as among Washington's most reliable partners in Syria, has played a key strategic role in the campaign against ISIS in the region.


[07-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
maybe we should get the transcripts for this phone call too


[07-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
> In a series of tweets Monday morning, Graham, who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he was working to set up a call with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to discuss the matter, which he called a "disaster in the making." Graham also said if the administration continues with the plan, he would introduce a Senate resolution opposing it and asking for a reversal.


[07-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
hah, as if moscow mitch would allow that to go through


[07-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/donald-trump-syria-obliterate-turkey-isis/index.html

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President Donald Trump threatened to "obliterate" Turkey's economy if the country does anything he considers to be off limits pertaining to ISIS, as the country prepares to execute an operation without US support in northern Syria.
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[07-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
> "As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I've done before!)," the President tweeted Monday morning. "They must, with Europe and others, watch over the captured ISIS fighters and families. The US has done far more than anyone could have ever expected, including the capture of 100% of the ISIS Caliphate."


[07-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
> if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I've done before!)


[07-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
> I, in my great and unmatched wisdom


[07-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
> great and unmatched wisdom

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[07-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
how does no one on the right see this fool as the narcissist he is


[07-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181232249821388801

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As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch...
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[07-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
**I, IN MY GREAT AND UNMATCHED WISDOM**

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[07-Oct-19 09:28 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh dear lord


[07-Oct-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[07-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything to win, Crow


[07-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
anything.


[07-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd personally let him rape their children if it meant keeping the liberals out of power.


[07-Oct-19 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
They are letting him personally rape children


[07-Oct-19 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
He has at the very least raped a 13 year old at an Epstein party


[07-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised that there's none of trump's normal army of rabid defenders in the responses to that tweet


[07-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
he's just getting fucking roasted


[07-Oct-19 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah they just either shut down, run away, or enter cope mode


[07-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Great and unmatched


[07-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[07-Oct-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow reminds me of lemondrop


[07-Oct-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
"my great and unmatched wisdom"


[07-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's threatening to annihilate a NATO ally in a shit region on Twitter


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
annihilate their economy


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did you expect anything else?


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
which he claims to have done before


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
even though it's never happened


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It continues to surprise me how surprised people are by what Trump says.


[07-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like you don't get his personality.


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd expect that after 3 years someone would have figured how to keep the moron away from his phone


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making a threat to utterly destroy things held by people he shouldn't be hurting over petty shit is like, exactly what he does.


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not him that is suprising. It gets more and more suprising there's nobody to stop him.


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Staffers can't just take away the president's phone.


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what even is his rationale for pulling out of Syria


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i think there's none


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>tfw you miss having a cheney


[07-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rationale? lol


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like, just a random mood swing of his senile brain that enticed him to do it


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd just make up some random bullshit about how Syrians are great people, it's money we shouldn't be spending and uh...*rolls dice*


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
that's the thing, he's not actually pulling out of syria


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
How far away Syria is

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[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
he's just pulling US troops out of kurdish positions


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
so that the turks can go crazy


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, not a mood swing


[07-Oct-19 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, and as we all know, the Kurds of Rojava are dirty libtards


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure the point of it is Russia now wants the Kurds screwed over


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that it's easier to control the region


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Erdrogan probably sweet talked him over the phone


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
talking weird stuff like "democratic confederalism" and "responsible politics" and all that


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's doing a favor to Putin.


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but uh


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Putin supports Assad


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and Assad is hostile to Erdogan


[07-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but Assad fights the Kurds


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Erdogan vs. Assad is a more stable conflict than Erdogan vs. Kurds vs. Assad.


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Erdogan just supported an FSA/jihadist offensive into Aleppo


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"It's be really presidential for you to let your allies handle this war, keep americans safe. It's not your problem, after all. Your base would love it, I'm sure"  etc


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so i'm skeptical of Assad being Ok with this


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is the Kurds are beyond their usefulness now.


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia wants to be able to go after Turkey


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
better to have the more predictable SDF protecting northeastern Syria than the openly hostile FSA or, god forbid, ISIS again


[07-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Without anything in the way.


[07-Oct-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/70bc353a644f45438c688fbfc7065449

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Judge says New York prosecutors can see Trump's tax returns
NEW YORK (AP) — With President Donald Trump under siege on Capitol Hill, a federal judge dealt him a setback on another front Monday and ruled that New York City prosecutors can see his tax...
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[07-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except they appealed and it is on hold


[07-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How long for


[07-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Until they can rule on it


[07-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[07-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464738-democrats-mull-masking-whistleblower-holding-testimony-at-remote-locale-report

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Democrats mull masking whistleblower, holding testimony at remote ...
House Democrats are looking to prevent the whistleblower from being identified by holding the person's testimony in a remote location and potentially changing the individual's appearance and voice.
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[07-Oct-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/10/07/world/europe/07reuters-usa-trump-whistleblower-pentagon.html

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U.S. House Democrats on Monday issued subpoenas to the Pentagon and the White House budget office as part of their impeachment inquiry, requesting documents related to U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to withhold military assistance for Ukraine.
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[07-Oct-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
It's F5 season


[07-Oct-19 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
f5 season?


[07-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
> what does he mean "I've done before!" ?? when did Trump destroy the Turkish economy? What?

> > He once swallowed a whole turkey


[07-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent refresh the page every minute to see the news from the investigations


[07-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
and from annoying orange himself of course


[07-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[07-Oct-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
мм


[07-Oct-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
remember trump is the guy who said this on twitter


[07-Oct-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
>	NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!


[07-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Iran every day since: lmao fuk off orangina


[07-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think the absolute worst part of this timeline


[07-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is twitter


[07-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As in actual diplomacy and national/international policy-making is being done through fucking twitter


[07-Oct-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
twitter execs should just bail and kill the company


[07-Oct-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
they made their money, they can leave now


[07-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Government officials make decrees over twitter and others react to them by reading it on twitter and responding on twitter


[07-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like some Black Mirror shit, except it's been happening since around the time that show started


[07-Oct-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that time Erdogan's bodyguards laid into protestors on US soil, the cops did nothing, and Trump _apologized to him_


[07-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ten years ago, "WH Press Secretary learns he's been fired over a social media post" would've been a hilarious Onion mini-article


[07-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now it's just what I expect to read on the actual news


[07-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1181004566088814594

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Watch how radically taxes on the wealthy have fallen over the past 70 years: 

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[07-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
in Russia, you can easily get a multi-year sentence for a social media post, criticising the government :3


[07-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
as can you here, on occasion.


[07-Oct-19 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-Oct-19 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Opponent where do you live?


[07-Oct-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
ukraine


[07-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's enough actual shitty stuff going on without needing to hijack a photo for a meme


[08-Oct-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
^


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
southern Ukraine, in Odessa, so we're not getting shelled and mostly out of the way of everyone


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
but still


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, Odessa sounds like a less bad part of Ukraine


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
though it's still eastern europe


[08-Oct-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which has its own batch of problems


[08-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/income-tax-rate-wealthy.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/income-tax-rate-wealthy.html
Opinion | The Rich Really Do Pay Lower Taxes Than You
The 400 wealthiest Americans now pay a lower rate than the middle class.
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[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mcconnell-joins-other-republicans-in-rebuking-trumps-syria-withdrawal/2019/10/07/aef0d11e-e914-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
well fuck, I was wrong


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
> President Trump faced a swift torrent of Republican criticism Monday as lawmakers rebuked his plan to withdraw troops from northeast Syria, a move Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said would undermine U.S. national security and potentially bolster Islamic State terrorists.


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
hmmmm


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
> McConnell (R-Ky.), in a rare public split with Trump, said that a supermajority in the Senate disagreed with the president’s abrupt withdrawal announcement, raising the specter of veto-proof action to oppose the decision.


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
turtle's finally doing something it seems


[08-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
> McConnell’s statement, in which he called on Trump to “exercise American leadership” and reconsider his plan to withdraw troops from Syria’s border with Turkey, echoed the comments of other Republicans who condemned the president’s decision Monday. The mounting opposition means that Trump is facing some of the sharpest criticism he has received from his party at the same time that his political survival could be in the hands of Republican senators forming a bulwark against a growing impeachment threat.


[08-Oct-19 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yotus that POTUS


[08-Oct-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what the actual fuck


[08-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
> “If Turkey does anything that I, **IN MY GREAT AND UNMATCHED WISDOM**, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey,” he tweeted.


[08-Oct-19 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
why is Rojava being saved by Mitch McConnell of all possible people


[08-Oct-19 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe because it could impact his aluminum mine


[08-Oct-19 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who knows


[08-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464763-former-george-w-bush-chief-of-staff-endorses-trump-impeachment

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464763-former-george-w-bush-chief-of-staff-endorses-trump-impeachment
Former George W. Bush chief of staff endorses Trump impeachment in...
Andrew Card, who served as White House chief of staff during the George W. Bush administration, on Monday expressed support for House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry of President Trump, saying that "clearly lines have been crossed."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_100419as6_lead.jpg


[08-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Mikey#7286
Can you please stop linking to WaPo because I literally cannot read the articles


[08-Oct-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
block cookies and scripts for it


[08-Oct-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ac3115b4eb564288a03a5b8be868d2e5

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https://apnews.com/ac3115b4eb564288a03a5b8be868d2e5
Trump defends decision to abandon Kurdish allies in Syria
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Monday cast his decision to abandon Kurdish fighters in Syria as fulfilling a campaign promise to withdraw from "endless war" in the Middle East, even...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/464850337eb143399edc4c95260ee115/3000.jpeg


[08-Oct-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
that wink


[08-Oct-19 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> He said he could also name supporters, but he didn’t.


[08-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's fucking russia


[08-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
and turkey


[08-Oct-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the crown prince of syria


[08-Oct-19 03:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
is this like the 3rd or 4th time the US has abandoned the kurds?


[08-Oct-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hopefully they stop abandoning the Kurds if Trump finally gets out of office


[08-Oct-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump will take a mass effort to dethrone


[08-Oct-19 03:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
then some other US president can abandon them again.


[08-Oct-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely another republican


[08-Oct-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or whatever replaces them


[08-Oct-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a party with the same name and different values


[08-Oct-19 03:42 AM] ononim#8141
@Opponent very nice city


[08-Oct-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon it's _worse_


[08-Oct-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623

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https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623
Exclusive: Official who heard call says Trump got "rolled" by Turk...
An intelligence official told Newsweek about Trump's phone call with the Turkish leader, saying the U.S. president was "out-negotiated."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1533872/trump-turkey-7oct19.jpg


[08-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell is probably scared now that if he keeps being Trump's lapdog, it'll doom him electorally.


[08-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, he previously opposed Trump helping out the Saudis


[08-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but a veto shut that down.


[08-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7s1vAJjdY

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[08-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, it's war where Republicans are most split from Trump, they can tell he's trying to abandon reasonable allies in favor of Saudia Arabia and Russia


[08-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now the heat is turned up.


[08-Oct-19 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
The heat was already turned up to 11


[08-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
trump somehow managed to get a 6 star wanted level when 5 stars is the max


[08-Oct-19 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
trump got 5 stars and wanted a 6th so he swatted himself


[08-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
*GTA police, but in flying boats*


[08-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
nah, fucking aliens come down in flying saucers and start shooting death beams at you


[08-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1180169659452137472

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It seems like Donald Trump has recognized that he's already at a five-star wanted level, so there's no incentive for him to stop doing crimes.
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[08-Oct-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-starts-bombing-kurds-in-syria-as-us-pulls-out-report

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkey-starts-bombing-kurds-in-syria-as-us-pulls-out-report
US denies Syrian state media report that Turkey has begun anti-Kur...
Administration official says only 50-100 American troops have been redeployed away from Syria's northern border
https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/10/000_1L62OS-1024x640.jpg


[08-Oct-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean... the actual ammount of US personnel aiding Rojava is indeed quite low


[08-Oct-19 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What matters is the equipment


[08-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/464766-us-moves-to-blacklist-chinese-tech-companies-agencies-accused-of-repressing

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US moves to blacklist Chinese tech companies, agencies accused of ...
The U.S. is moving to blacklist several Chinese firms behind facial recognition technology that officials say Beijing is using against China’s Muslim minorities.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/uighurprotest.jpg


[08-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broken clock, etc


[08-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only proper stance for the US at this point is to go on the offensive and block Beijing at every move


[08-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The NBA doing what they did was awful.


[08-Oct-19 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Could you imagine how much of a world-war-precipitating event it'd be for the US to put a blockade on Shenzhen


[08-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/china-nba-twitter-dispute-league-abases-itself/

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Michael Brendan Dougherty
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/china-nba-twitter-dispute-league-abases-itself/
The NBA’s Abasement, and Ours | National Review
China’s authoritarianism is creeping into American life through corporate power. To hell with that.
https://i2.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/nba-store-manhattan.jpg?fit=1200%2C700&ssl=1


[08-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
I think this is the only national review article I've ever read that I agree with


[08-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
> In America, you can buy a Volkswagen and criticize Angela Merkel. You can turn around and sell financial products back to German buyers who hate president Donald Trump. But free trade with China has certain conditions attached.


[08-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
> And the conditions have an insidious effect. There are layers of self-censorship and self-abasement that extend into America. The NBA doesn’t just abase itself in order to keep its access to China’s lucrative markets. The reporters who cover the NBA are afraid to criticize the league and its president. ESPN reporter Adrian Wojnarowski, who followed the controversy over the 2017 all-star game in Charlotte, has been studiously silent on this controversy. ESPN, his Disney-owned parent company, which editorialized extensively in favor of the NBA’s anti–North Carolina protest, is running only the most pro forma news coverage of the NBA controversy.


[08-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
> But it’s interesting to see how quickly and easily a Communist Party command structure, when joined to the profit motive, can inspire Americans such as Daryl Morey, whose employers grant them “freedom of expression,” to voluntarily go through a public ideological struggle session, as if there were two legitimate sides in the protests over civil rights in Hong Kong.


[08-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr state capitalism is very, very bad


[08-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
like, worse than regular capitalism bad


[08-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
not only is there a rigid hierarchical structure, but there's a profit motive to enforce it


[08-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feels like impeachment hype is already dying down


[08-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess the House wants to wait a while for it


[08-Oct-19 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I hardly think so. What we're seeing now are brass tacks


[08-Oct-19 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The key thing to watch for is a change in tactics for subpoenas...the first round of "please come nicely" is coming to a close and the real subpoenas are inbound. Once those get ignored it's do or die on contempt. If they don't enforce them, then I guess it's been a good run, only took a couple hundred years to get back to dictatorship


[08-Oct-19 10:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ad49bcfb40604afa8d80a63fc1efa471

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Chinese envoy going to US on Thursday for trade talks
BEIJING (AP) — China's chief trade envoy is going to Washington on Thursday for talks aimed at ending a tariff war. Vice Premier Liu He will lead a delegation that includes China's commerce...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/aa6d88defda64f77afa80f5cb02a974a/3000.jpeg


[08-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/08/766386729/showdown-over-lgbtq-employment-rights-hits-supreme-court

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https://www.npr.org/2019/10/08/766386729/showdown-over-lgbtq-employment-rights-hits-supreme-court
Showdown Over LGBTQ Employment Rights Hits Supreme Court
The high court hears cases testing whether employers are free to fire employees because they are gay or transgender.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/10/06/ap_19240754288300_wide-5333b3407b793a7c9c17663a049f15b8135a16cd.jpg?s=1400


[08-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[08-Oct-19 01:57 PM] Opponent#3498
to me, there's no good legislative answer here, it's a lose-lose. If they rule yes it's whatever, the drawbacks are obvious. If they rule no it's not allowed, well you try firing someone lgbtq, even for legit reasons, even if they suck at their job and are dead weight, you're facing 'reeeee I'm being oppressed' on social media (cause they're emboldened by the ruling) and a potential lawsuit to boot. Makes them dangerous to hire, too, much like younger women who might get pregnant and be absent 'on a whim' for a while.


[08-Oct-19 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
the ideal, I feel, is when whatever the hell you are or think you are is completely out of the picture. And I don't think we'll ever really get there :(


[08-Oct-19 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
it's disturbingly easy to fire someone for being gay or transgender without using that as the reason to fire them


[08-Oct-19 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
also, there's relatively few drawbacks for "emboldening" an already oppressed minority


[08-Oct-19 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
well, then the ruling fails at what it's supposed to adress before it even begins.


[08-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
although, no.


[08-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Crow#5457
they were respected and productive workers before they came out as gay/transgender


[08-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
no it doesn't.


[08-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the same idea of 'no, this isn't really allowed so only do it if you really have to'.


[08-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, okay. I see your point.


[08-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
they worked at those locations for multiple years


[08-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
then they were suddenly fired as soon as they came out as gay/transgender


[08-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I can absolutely see this happening. It's not beneficial by any means.


[08-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
what do you mean by "emboldening"? making minorities feel like they're respected and valued members of society is a good thing


[08-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah kind of, but you cannot achive that by legislating specific things like these.


[08-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Crow#5457
yes you can, it was done in 1964 for blacks


[08-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Crow#5457
technically, it's been done twice, once by the fourteenth amendment, and again with the civil rights act of 1964


[08-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
the civil rights act of 1964 was basically the 14th amendment being enforced for the first time since jim crow laws were passed


[08-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[08-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
and the thing is that the wording of the 14th amendment made it apply to ALL people, not just african-americans


[08-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
what the conservatives in the US want to do is interpret the US constitution and its amendments by the context that existed centuries ago instead of adapting it to solve modern problems that are basically just the same thing that happened in the past with a different skin


[08-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
like the current conservative movement against gays and transgenders is disturbingly similar to the trials that african-americans had to go through under jim crow


[08-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the cases aren't about the right to work, they're about the right to not get fired for being a certain way genetically


[08-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably my ignorance speaking, but I think in current day and age people (at least those with the right mindset) are much more adept at using the laws as weapons to suit their needs, ignoring the original intent. This is what concerns me with this and similar legislations.


[08-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
still, I suppose you're correct and it's a net positive regardless. Symbolically, among other things.


[08-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
or, it would be. We'll see.


[08-Oct-19 02:15 PM] Crow#5457
the people who are willing and able to manipulate laws like that are relatively few and far between


[08-Oct-19 02:15 PM] Crow#5457
mainly because it takes a lot of money


[08-Oct-19 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
it depends on a law. It's easier if it's about hard facts or numbers. If it deals with, for all intents and purposes, personal biases, well.


[08-Oct-19 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
to make a law written in good faith work, people need to WANT to follow it as intended.


[08-Oct-19 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
(there are plenty of different laws that aren't meant to be followed and written for different purposes, but this is more relevant to us and Russia for example, than West or US I think)


[08-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
civil rights laws are very hard to abuse in favor of the oppressed people


[08-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
as much as conservatives moan and whine otherwise


[08-Oct-19 02:21 PM] Crow#5457
it's disgusting that we even need laws to enforce that certain people are allowed the basic rights and freedoms that the majority take for granted


[08-Oct-19 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it is. This should be a given.


[08-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464783-state-ordered-sondland-not-to-testify-before-house

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State ordered Sondland not to testify before House
Gordon Sondland, President Trump’s ambassador to the European Union, will not testify as part of the House impeachment probe on Tuesday after a request from the Department of State.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_090519getty.jpg


[08-Oct-19 02:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland was the guy who told Volker to stop texting him saying things looked bad and to talk instead


[08-Oct-19 02:46 PM] byte[]#2610
subpoena


[08-Oct-19 02:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland is the guy who _believes nothing bad happened_


[08-Oct-19 02:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/betsy-devos-could-face-jail-after-judge-rules-violated-2018-order-1463764

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Betsy DeVos could face jail after judge rules she violated 2018 or...
"There have to be consequences for violation of my order sixteen thousand times," U.S. Magistrate Judge Sallie Kim said at a hearing on Monday.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1534026/education-secretary-betsy-devos.jpg


[08-Oct-19 02:51 PM] byte[]#2610
here we are again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_French_Revolution

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Causes of the French Revolution
The causes of the French Revolution can be attributed to several intertwining factors:

Cultural: The Enlightenment philosophy desacralized the authority of the monarchy and the Catholic Church, and promoted a new society based on reason instead of traditions.
Social: The eme...


[08-Oct-19 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
time to roll some heads

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[08-Oct-19 03:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Using the word "emboldening" in reference to a minority group being given human rights is a pretty clear signal what you really want is unequal rights btw


[08-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you're saying that people who are gay are EMBOLDENED to challenge being treated as inferior?


[08-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that to be an actual problem, one must accept the premise gays should be treated as inferior.


[08-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People think rights are a finite resource


[08-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I do not, will not, and can not accept that premise.


[08-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get how the government can just tell someone not to comply with part of the government with the Sondland thing


[08-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I think it might be a difference in how eastern european countries write laws vs western countries


[08-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it is not.


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's always the same corrupt bullshit


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalists want to be able to sneakily fire someone


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
in eastern european countries, they want even more loopholes


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people believe loopholes should exist


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the actual written law barely matters


[08-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can always bribe the policeman to make sure the gays are kept repressed.


[08-Oct-19 03:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
All right's to one's own labor to the laborer themselves.


[08-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that in western countries, we actually, you know, get mad about this shit


[08-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
whereas over in eastern europe they still want to lynch gays for the most part, and again, see the loopholes as desirable cause of a constant attitude that what's really legal doesn't actually matter and the gov't is always evil anyways


[08-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in eastern europe, it's like "wow, you mean that you are actually going to punish hardworking businessman for enforcing CULTURAL TRADITION? Why not simply take his bribe?"


[08-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A bunch of SCOTUS cases about this today btw


[08-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of the west actually having integrity to them is absurd.


[08-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let alone the idea that tolerance of gays is compatible with integrity.


[08-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464801-trump-defends-blocking-witness-before-kangaroo-court

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Trump defends blocking witness before 'kangaroo court'
President Trump on Tuesday defended his administration’s decision to block a key State Department witness from testifying before Congress as part of the House impeachment inquiry, claiming European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland would have been
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_100419as2_lead.jpg


[08-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also to reiterate once again in case anyone doesn't know or forgot


[08-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core legal rationale on sex discrimination with being gay or trans or crossdressing or such is as follows:


[08-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
1: For sex discrimination to mean anything, it must mean treating someone differently for the same circumstances with only their sex changed.


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, that's what started the whole thing, a link about those cases


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
2: In objective terms, a sexual attraction towards men or wearing men's clothing are what we call "being gay" or "crossdressing" *for men only*.


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/631093326967209985


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
up here


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
3: These things would clearly be allowed for women, in exactly identical circumstances.


[08-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
4: Therefore, if they are not allowed, then by 1, it is discrimination on the basis of sex.


[08-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
5: And this is true in the reverse direction.


[08-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to the skirt/shorts dilemma


[08-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you allow your female employees to wear a skirt, and you disallow wearing shorts, and working conditions are hot, what your male employees will do is put on skirts


[08-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You **cannot** stop them.


[08-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you did stop them, well it would be clearly unfair they can't wear temperature-appropriate clothing like the women can.


[08-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you'd be breaking the law.


[08-Oct-19 03:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you were to make it legal to stop them, overturning all this, and allowing for "sex-based standards" like the military has


[08-Oct-19 03:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
then well, on its face, you've just enabled all sorts of horrible shit beyond making your male employees overheat.


[08-Oct-19 03:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Men should be allowed to wear skirts in any situation. Balls too big for joint leg underwear is a real problem.

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[08-Oct-19 03:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly if the call was so good why can no one testify about it?


[08-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
because our puny minds couldn't handle its perfection


[08-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
we'd implode


[08-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, one thing I hate in that article, Crow, is '...and that Congress, not the courts, should be addressing these issues.'


[08-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about what this means, what those people are actually arguing.


[08-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're saying that because a new circumstance came up under a law, which the law was not originally written for, that **judicial review of the issue should not exist**


[08-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the argument is against the entire structure of the US gov't.


[08-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's my big, big beef with conservatives every time civil rights law comes up.


[08-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They constantly argue against the very *principle* that judges should judge.


[08-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like they just want to be able to discriminate in new and inventive ways while congress twiddles its thumbs while nobody can ever challenge them doing it.


[08-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is really the crux of the issue.


[08-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, @Itsthinking, imagine how the founders would respond to hearing about the future with people saying SCOTUS is full of "activist judges"


[08-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We had an acting AG who basically said SCOTUS shouldn't be able to decide what the law is


[08-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I see that opinion expressed by other people too


[08-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah they don't want judicial review at all


[08-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want a king with a rubber stamp Congress


[08-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464810-schiff-state-withholding-sondland-texts-messages-on-personal-device

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[08-Oct-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think the founders intended judicial review at all


[08-Oct-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
It's just something that kind of happened


[08-Oct-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I agree it's important, I just think that's a flawed argument


[08-Oct-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[08-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Judicial review is a foundation of the English law system


[08-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they definitely intended it


[08-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
the very idea of English law is that it must go before a judge to make a decision on whether it is legal or not.


[08-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no point in a judiciary without judicial review


[08-Oct-19 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Why didn't they write that in the constitution? Did they just forget?


[08-Oct-19 04:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because practice and state-based legal codes.


[08-Oct-19 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Like why did it take until Marbury for that idea to happen


[08-Oct-19 05:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464811-graham-says-hell-invite-giuliani-to-testify-over-ukraine

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Graham says he'll invite Giuliani to testify about Ukraine
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[08-Oct-19 05:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This will be amazing


[08-Oct-19 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464827-democrats-to-issue-subpoena-to-sondland

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Democrats to issue subpoena to Sondland
The chairmen of the three House committees leading Democrats' impeachment inquiry said Tuesday that they will issue a subpoena to a key official that the State Department blocked from testifying. {mosads}Gordon Sondlan
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[08-Oct-19 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Do you guys not have human rights? https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1181442535962632193

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[08-Oct-19 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is only making people angrier at China


[08-Oct-19 06:07 PM] Crow#5457
who was it in here that was saying that chinese pressure on western culture was a red herring?


[08-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure it's a good or bad thing that I'm being vindicated in such an irrefutable way


[08-Oct-19 06:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You what makes people angrier?
Rising price of everything.


[08-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
`whereas over in eastern europe they still want to lynch gays for the most part, and again, see the loopholes as desirable cause of a constant attitude that what's really legal doesn't actually matter and the gov't is always evil anyways`


[08-Oct-19 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
that's actually correct, at least as far as rural Russia goes. Big cities are more neutral in this, but the general sentiment of the people is still fairly negative.


[08-Oct-19 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest though. Spot-on. I mentioned 'laws written for different reasons'. There's a saying we inherited from Soviet Union. If there's a person, there's a law he can be jailed by.


[08-Oct-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't get too much of the angry evil capitalists though. It's, much like in the west, a double-edged sword.


[08-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
(at least, not in Ukraine, Russia is a bit different)


[08-Oct-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-lgbt/u-s-supreme-court-mulls-major-gay-transgender-employment-rights-dispute-idUSKBN1WN0D7

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[08-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
that said, this wasn't what I was talking about.


[08-Oct-19 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
if a person can (or can't) be fired for being gay means, more broadly, if a person can or can't be fired for any reason the employer finds them undesirable, not directly related to their perfomance.


[08-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
yet it's not discussed like that. It's a LGBTQ thing, not employee's rights thing.


[08-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what I have a problem with.


[08-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
also on a different note, with laws and the West. I said the laws there are generally written in good faith, I didn't say they're executed like that. Super-easy no-effort example - how do you fire government employees? You move the office to rural armpit of the world. They'll resign themselves.


[08-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
illegal? Probably. Will anyone do anything about it? Maybe, eventually.


[08-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the goal is still achived.


[08-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
much like Eastern Europe's approach to things is jarring to the West, Western overreliance on and sometimes borderline worship of laws is weird for us. It's great that something's written on paper and ratified in high councils. It's a step 0, not even a 1.


[08-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
also on yet another note.


[08-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
in SU laws were irrelevant past super ground-level stuff, build to manage 'public peace'. Whatever the party said went, no exceptions. Russia is following this trend, as a faithful descendant. We're trying to move away from it.


[08-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
I think you missed nebbie's point, the point is that using the word "emboldening" to refer to an oppressed minority receiving rights to live normally implies that those oppressed people don't actually deserve equal rights


[08-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
oh.


[08-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
no, I meant it differently. I'm, perhaps, overly familiar with (probably) tiny loud SJW minority on social media. Them recieving a tool like this feels bad. But then I realised the bigger picture, of, well, silent majority of normal people who simply want to live as equals, and realised I was wrong. A few morons abusing it wouldn't overshadow the overall positive effect.


[08-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/joshua-brown-fled-texas-to-avoid-testifying-against-in-amber-guyger-case/

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Joshua Brown fled Texas to avoid testifying against Amber Guyger
The Dallas man who was slain after taking the stand in killer cop Amber Guyger’s trial attempted to evade testifying by fleeing the state out of fear for his life, a lawyer claimed on Tuesday…
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[08-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
> The Dallas man who was slain after taking the stand in killer cop Amber Guyger’s trial attempted to evade testifying by fleeing the state out of fear for his life, a lawyer claimed on Tuesday.


[08-Oct-19 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
SJWs are the Karens of the minority crowd


[08-Oct-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
They exist in every culture, not just marginalized ones


[08-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/supreme-court-nonunanimous-juries-oral-argument.html

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The Supreme Court Looks Poised to Outlaw Split Jury Verdicts
Even Kavanaugh and Gorsuch seemed appalled.
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[08-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
holy christ


[08-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
> But as the term began on Monday, a majority of justices seemed poised to trigger an earthquake that could unsettle hundreds or even thousands of criminal convictions. The court appears prepared to rule that the Constitution require juries to reach unanimous verdicts in both state and federal court, abolishing a legal aberration that subordinates the power of minority jurors.


[08-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Crow#5457
>  Louisiana and Oregon have long been the only two states that allow nonunanimous verdicts in felony trials. That means juries can reach a verdict by a vote of 10–2 or 11–1. In 2018, Louisiana voters eliminated nonunanimous verdicts moving forward, but individuals charged with a crime that occurred before 2019 can still be convicted by a divided jury. Oregon’s law remains in place despite a recent stab at reform.


[08-Oct-19 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Uhhh I thought it always had to be unanimous


[08-Oct-19 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck


[08-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean such legislation seems PRECISELY TARGETED at increasing conviction rate


[08-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I see no other way to interpret it


[08-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Which is a disgusting thing


[08-Oct-19 06:52 PM] Crow#5457
> In a series of decisions dating back to the 19th century, the Supreme Court has affirmed that the Sixth Amendment’s guarantee of a trial “by an impartial jury” in “all criminal prosecutions” requires unanimity. But the Sixth Amendment originally applied only to the federal government. The 14th Amendment, ratified in the wake of the Civil War, “incorporated” much of the Bill of Rights against the states.
> 
> Although the Supreme Court has incorporated the rest of the Sixth Amendment, it has never compelled states to follow the unanimous jury requirement. That leaves a curious anomaly in the law: If you are tried in federal court, the jury must reach a unanimous verdict; if you are tried in state court, the jury may convict you by a divided vote.


[08-Oct-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
> The anomaly persists for an extremely weird reason. In 1972’s Apodaca v. Oregon, five justices of the Supreme Court confirmed that federal juries must be unanimous. But one justice, Lewis Powell, wrote a bizarre concurring opinion declaring that state juries need not be, more or less on the basis of his own intuition. No other justice agreed, but Powell’s solo concurrence has been treated as binding precedent ever since.


[08-Oct-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
>  Now Evangelisto Ramos—a Louisiana man convicted of second-degree murder in 2016 by a 10–2 vote—is challenging Powell’s rule. Ramos is backed up by a formidable array of states, racial justice advocates, progressives, and libertarians. They argue that it’s time for the Supreme Court to end the Apodaca anomaly and safeguard the unanimous jury right throughout the country.


[08-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr what the fuck


[08-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://qz.com/1723582/kavanaugh-calls-out-racism-on-first-day-of-new-supreme-court-term/

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[08-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
even kavanaugh's like "wtf this is racist as fuck"


[08-Oct-19 07:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://babylonbee.com/news/hilary-clinton-announces-she-will-seek-re-election-as-president-of-the-united-states

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[08-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464843-gop-lawmaker-chairman-schiff-is-acting-like-a-malicious-captain-kangaroo

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GOP lawmaker: 'Chairman Schiff is acting like a malicious Captain ...
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[08-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're getting your comparisons mixed up there


[08-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like the people who thought a witch Hunt was witches hunting with guns


[08-Oct-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/11/thanksgiving-socialism-the-strange-and-persistent-right-wing-myth-that-thanksgiving-celebrates-the-pilgrims-discovery-of-capitalism.html

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This Thursday, Americans will gather together for an evening of family, food, football, and arguing with the relatives about politics. And why...
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[08-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
>  The storyline goes like this: The early settlers at Plymouth at first experimented with a system of collective ownership of farmland, which, as with their compatriots at Jamestown, led to widespread famine. When they eventually abandoned this system in favor of private ownership, farmers were more productive, the harvest was bountiful, and a feast was held in celebration. Pass the stuffing!


[08-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
old, but apparently my mom buys into this


[08-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
>  This tale has its roots in the Cold War. “Let us be thankful for this valued lesson from our Fathers—and yield not to the temptations of socialism,” advised a 1968 column by the popular midcentury conservative newspaper columnist Henry Hazlitt.


[08-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
and it turned out to originate from 1968 anti-socialism propaganda


[08-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
basically, "Bachelors didn’t want to feed the wives of married men, and women don’t want to do the laundry of the bachelors"


[08-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
that's the reason why they switched from a communal system to a private property sort of system


[08-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
also, they wanted to make more money


[08-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
and communal systems don't lead to large profit margins


[08-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent yeah, that's the common trap with it, SJUWs like to abuse pushes for equality to go on random moral crusades, which tarnishes the whole idea of equal rights, but don't let the well get poisoned. A key thing to remember about the way The West actually works is that lawyer types are soulless in *both* ways, they lakk compassion for the victims but ALSO don't giv a damn about all that nonsense. Judges similarly tend to be very rational and objective types that don't like moral crusades.


[08-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is that when you toss this stuff into the legal system, the general tendency is slow progress toward fairness, not suddenly white people are oppressed or something like some crazies want.


[08-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the complaints about the US legal system especially is it's *too* slow on the uptake, and in the meantime minorities and workers get oppressed.


[08-Oct-19 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, believe me that it is very important for workers' rights that we at least hav sex discrimination outlawed, cause like, it pushes things towards providing a positive justification instead of an ambiguous one, when there's the looming threat of "you just fired him cause he was gay..."


[08-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's no full protection requiring cause for firing, but the *entire point* is really about cause for firing.


[08-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is no coincidence that a lot of "right to work" states are the ones where you find people fired for being gay.


[08-Oct-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican ideal of firing gays stems not just from hating the gays, but a belief employers should be able to fire people for any reason at all, and once you pass a law saying otherwise, it erodes that belief.


[08-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
huh


[08-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
This myth is very dumb


[08-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
What myth?


[08-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
The capitalism Thanksgiving myth


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
We stole Thanksgiving from the Native Americans living in the area at the time


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Anyone who reads a history book would know that


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:trixdisgust:


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to old farming stuff, it was fairly common for there to not be anything resembling a free market to begin with.


[08-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism hated the idea of individual freedom for non-nobility.


[08-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
English serfs were like slaves that technically kinda sorta had rights to not be immediately stabbed to death, and were literally not even movable between land areas.


[08-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Early colonisation times certainly would hav had some form of collective ownership or dictatorship.


[08-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans like to imagine that command economies are a new invention of the Soviet Union.


[08-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also yeah, even Kavanaugh going "wait a minute" is a bad sign for conservatives.


[08-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of what I mean about judges


[08-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
even the really shitty ones


[08-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
are still way more reasonable than the impulses of social media


[08-Oct-19 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Kavanaugh has made some surprisingly liberal decisions on the court


[08-Oct-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
gross https://twitter.com/GovMattBevin/status/1179136038486364160

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[08-Oct-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
this is unacceptable


[08-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
@Orion Starshade, it was actually peaceful between the pilgrims and the native americans


[08-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
the whole bloody violent takeover stuff didn't start happening until after the pilgrim settlement was dead


[08-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/464854-read-senate-report-finds-russia-tried-to-harm-clinton-boost-trump-in-2016

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[08-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The _Senate_ found this


[08-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
duh


[08-Oct-19 08:07 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
Why do they say “tried”? Either they did or didn’t. 😔


[08-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's legal speak for "this happened, but we don't want to say for sure whether it actually affected anything"


[08-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The senate isn't going to say "Russia helped Trump win"


[08-Oct-19 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and now Giuliani is whining


[08-Oct-19 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1181627267283406850?s=19

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Ah, the Soviet Union had trials with anonymous, unnamed witnesses. Welcome to McCarthy II.
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[08-Oct-19 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TRUMP GETTING IMPEACHED IS COMMUNISM

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[08-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, the president did kind of say whistleblowers should be killed, so...


[08-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not hard to see why they'd keep the witness unnamed, particularly for a complete nutcase like Rudy, who's also the president (and the accused) lawyer...


[08-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
the conservative talking heads like limbaugh and the like are already equating china to "socialists" in america due to the whole NBA thing


[08-Oct-19 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
imagine missing the point this hard


[08-Oct-19 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they really keep their heads stuck to an imaginary, infantile idea of capitalism, don't they


[08-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
saying that ocasio-cortez, bernie, warren, etc want to transform the US into a censored dictatorial dystopia like china


[08-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
not of capitalism, of economics entirely


[08-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
their arguments boil down to "capitalism good, socialism bad" without even being able to describe what either system is


[08-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
they just bundle all of the good things like "freedom", "liberty", etc into capitalism, and "tyranny", "global warming", "dictatorship", "censorship", etc into socialism


[08-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
(yes, they consider the entire topic of global warming to be a purely socialist construct)


[08-Oct-19 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the system can only sustain itself on collective hysteria for so long before it collapses in some way, be it ugly or not-so-ugly


[08-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
the policies Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders are advocating for aren't even socialist


[08-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
yes, everyone who's taken even the most basic economics course knows this


[08-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
but conservatives don't like it, so it's socialism


[08-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
everything conservatives don't like, no matter how irrational, can somehow be tied back to socialism with a liberal application of mental gymnastics and overwhelmingly large bouts of cognitive dissonance


[08-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
it's head-banging-on-wall frustrating to talk politics with my mom because every little tiny thing she has the slightest inclination to not like can somehow be tied back to socialism


[08-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
when I question her on it, she eventually starts calling me a cultist who's been indoctrinated by public school, even though all of the stuff I disagree with her about I learned from the internet years after I was out of high school


[08-Oct-19 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, it's technically the same paranoid mentality behind conspiracy theories


[08-Oct-19 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
both sides of the aisle have a degree of skepticism and distrust on the institutions, but conservatives just got it completely fucking wrong


[08-Oct-19 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
and even if I bring up something blatantly shitty that's happening which can only be tied purely to capitalism, she either manages to illogically say "no, that's not ACTUALLY capitalism, it's socialism, just you won't find anyone who says it's socialism because of MEDIA BIAS and FAKE NEWS"


[08-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
or she says "so? that's how it should be"


[08-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
like she doesn't have a problem with people making tens of millions of dollars a year, even though it can be directly tied back to exploiting people


[08-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
and thinks that taxes are a form of slavery


[08-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialism is a meaningless word now


[08-Oct-19 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/09/26/leaked-audio-catches-trump-threatening-ukraine-whistleblower-with-death-and-calling-reporters-scum.html

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Leaked Audio Catches Trump Threatening Ukraine Whistleblower With ...
Leaked audio of a private event that Trump attended at the UN catches the president calling reporters animals and scum while threatening the Ukraine whistleblower with death.
https://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/trumpcos.jpg


[08-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>person who talks against me should b executed


[08-Oct-19 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Basically, that person never saw the report, never saw the call, he never saw the call — heard something and decided that he or she, or whoever the hell they saw — they’re almost a spy,” Trump said.

> “I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”


[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>lol why aren't you letting me see who is talking against me


[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> “You know, these animals in the press,” Trump went on. “They’re animals, some of the worst human beings you’ll ever meet.”

> “They’re scum,” Trump continued. “Many of them are scum, and then you have some good reporters, but not many of them, I’ll be honest with you.


[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who are upset about the whistleblower complaint being changed don't know how hearsay works


[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
good reporters like, uhhh.... Tucker Carlson?


[08-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rule is irrelevant


[08-Oct-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
also did Trump just kind of advocate for the Espionage and Sedition Act of Woodrow Wilson to be reinstated


[08-Oct-19 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that is a bruh moment


[08-Oct-19 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
hey, uh... remember when conservatives were all about freedom of speech? I do... seems like none of this matters anymore now that the anti-Trump press is using it, it seems


[08-Oct-19 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Supreme Leader Trump must be protected at literally all costs, and the very constitutional principles of our country are expendable for that"


[08-Oct-19 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives have never cared about freedom of speech ever


[08-Oct-19 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, only when they're called out for heated gamer moments


[08-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/giuliani-shushes-screams-at-foxs-kurtz-while-spouting-biden-conspiracies-you-wont-let-me-get-a-sentence-out/

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Rudy Giuliani Shushes, Screams at Fox News' Howard Kurtz
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani shushed and shouted at Fox News' Howard Kurtz during an interview Sunday, saying the Fox News host "should be ashamed" for
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/GiulianiShush-1200x608.jpg


[08-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, I got around to watching this, in the first 25 seconds, giuliani says he's trying to get people to "investigate what is massive corruption in the obomber [sic] administration"


[08-Oct-19 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what even is their intent with all this


[08-Oct-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
their goals seem all over the place


[08-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
take blame off of trump now


[08-Oct-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they seem desperate


[08-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
basically "counter-accusations"


[08-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
they're trying mightily to distract moderates, independents, and people on the fence from the impeachment inquiry


[08-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
with copious amounts of whataboutism


[08-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
worse, unsubstantiated whataboutism


[08-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
they're trying to make it seem like obama did everything that trump is now accused of doing, it's just that no one ever actually reported it or went after obama for it


[08-Oct-19 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that sounds delusional


[08-Oct-19 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
as that'd still be implying that Trump is fallible and can make policy mistakes


[08-Oct-19 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which runs contrary to their narrative of the infallible pharaoh Donald


[08-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
no, it's a hypothetical for them


[08-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
like "assuming trump was somehow wrong for doing what he's doing, obama did it without consequences, so it's okay that trump is doing it now"


[08-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
like I said before, it takes massive amounts of cognitive dissonance to make any of this work


[08-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
you need people who are so desperate for their world view to be proven right that they're willing to make  any complicated mental gymnastic routine in order to do so, even if it ultimately hurts them and everyone they care about


[08-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
basically, it's about "owning the libs"


[08-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
it's not about making a functioning country anymore


[08-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
because the moment that trump falls, the GOP falls


[08-Oct-19 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
when you're so obsessed with owning the libs that, in the end, it is only you who are owning yourself.


[08-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
it's going to take at least a decade for conservatives to break out of that trump addiction after trump is gone, which would give the democratic party the chance to solidify a leftist position in the US, assuming that ocasio-cortez, bernie, etc can get around the mainstream neoliberal democrats who will insist on not taking advantage of the republican party's weakness


[08-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
and all of this is assuming that trump would willingly let go of the office, whether he's defeated in a year or leaves office in 5 years


[08-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that the trump cultists would wholeheartedly support trump if he were to declare himself president for life or otherwise resist leaving office


[08-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
they claim they love freedom, but they would gladly give it up to trump


[08-Oct-19 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, but... that'd cause civil war


[08-Oct-19 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
obese old boomers don't make good soldiers in that case


[08-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
it would only really cause civil war if anyone did something about it


[08-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
one of the biggest problems with the democratic party is that it takes no decisive action, mainly because the neoliberals insist that decisive action is somehow bad


[08-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
that's why people like ocasio-cortez and bernie are so scary to both mainstream democrats and republicans, they take decisive action while also being leftists


[08-Oct-19 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/08/trump-organization-rejects-legal-bill-after-losing-windfarm-court-battle

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Trump firm 'refusing to pay' legal bill for windfarm case
Scottish government says US president’s company has not accepted bill of tens of thousands of pounds
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[08-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Treascair#7785
Can you say 'liquidation of assets'? Because I distinctly recall a law firm taking a sherriff's department stuff until they paid up when they refused to abide by the court decision. The lawyers showed up with a repossession company and started taking chairs, desks, anything that wasn't nailed down over the protests of the department, until they finally cut the firm a check for what they were owed.


[08-Oct-19 10:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1181312500265938944?s=21

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ABC News (@ABC)
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1181312500265938944?s=21
Pres. Trump dismisses GOP criticism over Syria move: "I have great respect for all the people that you name. They have their opinion, and a lot of people do." https://t.co/wk5LywhR3W https://t.co/py4HO3fLDl
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Twitter


[08-Oct-19 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔 https://i.redd.it/3kujvjx445d31.jpg

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[08-Oct-19 10:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/1181637081208152067?s=21

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Conflict News (@Conflicts)
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SYRIA: The SDF have reported that Turkish artillery has targeted SDF units tonight. https://t.co/zK9yfr4rSE
Twitter


[08-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Mikey#7286
Oh boy


[08-Oct-19 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/justice-department-objects-to-house-getting-mueller-grand-jury-info.html

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Justice Department asks judge to block House from getting Mueller ...
Justice Department lawyers argued that the decision to release normally secret grand jury materials to the House when Richard Nixon faced impeachment, was incorrect.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106170458-1570551952583preview.jpg?v=1570551971


[08-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
w-what


[08-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464893-polls-flash-warning-signs-for-trump-on-impeachment

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Polls flash warning signs for Trump on impeachment
New public opinion surveys show signs of trouble for President Trump in the fast-evolving impeachment inquiry unfolding just 13 months out from Election Day.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_082619getty_0.jpg


[08-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
1 in 5 Republicans support removal


[08-Oct-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Too few


[08-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
49% of independents do too


[08-Oct-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Better


[08-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I do like the criticism that Dems aren't hitting hard enough for things like Ivanka getting Chinese patents


[08-Oct-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump tells lie, news at 11 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-uk-syria-turkey-invasion-war-boris-johnson-foreign-office-minister-a9147341.html

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‘No idea where that came from’: Government denies Trump's clai...
Minister denies Trump claim about UK support for decision to green light Turkish offensive
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/10/07/16/turkey-syria.jpg


[08-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464908-read-white-house-letter-to-pelosi-rejecting-cooperation-in

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READ: White House letter to Pelosi rejecting cooperation in impeac...
The White House on Tuesday sent a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and other top Democrats saying it would not cooperate with their impeachment inquiry into President Trump over his dealings with Ukraine.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_092719gn11_lead.jpg


[08-Oct-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
what the actual fuck is this


[08-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
BS


[08-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean yes it's complete horseshit


[08-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
it would take longer to refute it point by point than to just say it's horseshit


[08-Oct-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not even concerned if it matters, what trump has publicly done is more than enough for impeachment


[08-Oct-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just bullshit stonewalling


[08-Oct-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm reading through it and it's like "every single point is wrong and the only possible way you could interpret the law that way is if you're fucking retarded"


[08-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Rudy Guiliani, but that's splitting hairs


[08-Oct-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
same difference


[09-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Midknight#9798
naw, that's dementia, not retardation


[09-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Guy in thread complaining about Democrats actually thinks the party will go back to the center and pick Newsom in 2024


[09-Oct-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
who the fuck is Newsom


[09-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CA governor


[09-Oct-19 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh


[09-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy thinks the left won't go further left like the right went further right


[09-Oct-19 12:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
only historical CA governors i know of are Reagan and Schwarzenegger tbh :P


[09-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lel still seeing people go on about the rule change/hearsay and now complaining about the second whistleblower


[09-Oct-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Watergate was just hearsay"


[09-Oct-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"the burglars were lying"


[09-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just bouncing back and forth between the same few arguments, and saying polls are irrelevant


[09-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464930-trump-fires-back-on-impeachment

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Trump fires back on impeachment
The White House in a blistering letter to Congress said Tuesday it would refuse to cooperate further with the House impeachment inquiry, arguing Democrats were pursuing a "constitutionally invalid" inves
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_pelosinancy_100819asgn_lead.jpg


[09-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They need to put it to a vote soon


[09-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Sondland issue is very strange considering he was the one who told Volker he was wrong


[09-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-used-potential-meeting-to-pressure-ukraine-on-biden-texts-indicate-11570205661?mod=article_inline

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Trump, in August Call With GOP Senator, Denied Official’s Claim ...
A Republican senator said he was told by an American diplomat in August that the release of U.S. aid to Ukraine was contingent on an investigation desired by President Trump and his allies, but Mr. Trump denied pursuing any such proposal when pressed on it.
https://images.wsj.net/im-112365/social


[09-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not strange at all.


[09-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, hearsay is an out-of-court statement


[09-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
even a recording


[09-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
anything you cannot cross-examine.


[09-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Sondland testified, then it would cease to be hearsay.


[09-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be under oath and he could be questioned or found to be lying.


[09-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, this is the administration that recently had a guy testify that he can only be expected to be truthful while under oath, @Itsthinking


[09-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True, but it would be an exonerating testimony, just like if Giuliani did it


[09-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it would not be.


[09-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The operating thing now is "impeachment inquiries are not a thing, put it to a vote"


[09-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least an _attempt_ at exonerating


[09-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the issue


[09-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
a failed attempt at exoneration is damnation.


[09-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They expect damnation.


[09-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachment inquiries are permitted in the House rules I believe


[09-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know it will fail, so they must prevent it from happening.


[09-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People accusing Biden of Whataboutism/criticizing people who call things Whataboutism too


[09-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like calling someone's statement "Whataboutism" is to these people just deflection itself instead of what it is, pointing out deflection


[09-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the US told the Soviets to stop treating people like shit and they said "but you are lynching people" it isn't wrong to point out that it was done to deflect


[09-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Biden stuff is a conspiracy theory cobbled together by conservative pundits. John Solomon is one of the people who helped to push it. Enough said.


[09-Oct-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[09-Oct-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
READ


[09-Oct-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ANOTHER


[09-Oct-19 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BOOK

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[09-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia and China are both Slytherin


[09-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is Ravenclaw


[09-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
India is Hufflepuff


[09-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Read another book" is such a good insult


[09-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can work for everyone


[09-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
china is not ravenclaw wtf


[09-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that was their asian bias poking through


[09-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
plus cho chang


[09-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
china is slytherin, russia is super slytherin


[09-Oct-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, EU is ravenclaw


[09-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
I wouldn't call india hufflepuff though, they're more like huffledors or gryffinpuffs


[09-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
basically hufflepuff with the worst parts of gryffindor psychology mixed in


[09-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
so huffledors


[09-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
and US is like slytherdors (slytherin + gryffindor)


[09-Oct-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
So


[09-Oct-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
Russia is evil schemer, China is smart schemer, EU is irrevalent but comfy and friendly and US is ~~retarded~~ Brave and Good


[09-Oct-19 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
at least acording to this post


[09-Oct-19 01:55 AM] ononim#8141
I am so happy what GoT houses didn't cathc up minus that brief time people were calling Clinton "Khaleesi"


[09-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ravenclaw wasn't smart schemer, just smart.


[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The four house design was entirely based on the idea of making 1 legit evil


[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] ononim#8141
Imagine being a showlet


[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
imagine if Clinton had been elected and the GoT finale had proceeded as it did


[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] ononim#8141
**This Post Was Made By Books Gang**


[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Clinton is joking that she may run

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[09-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Personally, doubt.


[09-Oct-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nomination seems like Warren at this point


[09-Oct-19 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She has the advantage of refusing to apologize for things


[09-Oct-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just have her run and split the centrist pro-Biden vote, could work


[09-Oct-19 01:58 AM] ononim#8141
She has the advantage of not bieng an absolute ghoul


[09-Oct-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
4d electoral chess


[09-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464946-gowdy-in-talks-to-join-trumps-impeachment-defense-team#

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Gowdy in talks to join Trump's impeachment defense team
Former Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) is in talks to join President Trump's legal team as the president mounts a defense against an impeachment inquiry from House Democrats.
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[09-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kek


[09-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Benghazi guy


[09-Oct-19 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Gowdy looks like what'd happen if ellen degeneres was actually a straight guy


[09-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck you for saying that tbh


[09-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't unsee


[09-Oct-19 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he looks like a more serious Logan Paul


[09-Oct-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
anyway


[09-Oct-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456099146001285142/631279764266549268/71376418_10156748399321172_5126658850690170880_n.jpg

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[09-Oct-19 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*shut the fuck up boomer*


[09-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
um


[09-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
it says scotland


[09-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
england is the one who the US revolted against


[09-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
since england was the primary member of the UK


[09-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
and by "primary", I mean the conqueror


[09-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that Scotland should join the US in revolting against England because of the TEERUNNY of such a law.


[09-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
no, it says "Scotland to be first in UK to ban smacking"


[09-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't the UK or england banning "smacking"


[09-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's scotland that's banning smacking


[09-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[09-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
woooow


[09-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
super-late to the party, but


[09-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
`Democrats say that they don’t need to take a vote because the committees already have subpoena power thanks to rules changes made when Republicans controlled the House. Pelosi, in a letter last week to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), said that existing House rules provide committees “with full authority to conduct investigations for all matters under their jurisdiction, including impeachment investigations.”`


[09-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
that's just delicious irony, now isn't it xD


[09-Oct-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
not only that, but whoever wrote that white house memo doesn't seem to realize that in constitutional law, the executive is _congress's bitch_


[09-Oct-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
what they're doing now is entirely within their powers


[09-Oct-19 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just really wish they'd get the sergeant-at-arms involved 'cause going through the DOJ to enforce subpoenas is an obvious non-starter


[09-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/envinyon/status/1181653912526491650

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Blizzard gonna have to announce two gay characters to deal with this disaster
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[09-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
'this disaster'?


[09-Oct-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
oh dear


[09-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They rescinded prize money and a title from someone because he supported Hong Kong


[09-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And banned him from competition


[09-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
OOF.


[09-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't a bias anymore. This is straight up subservience.


[09-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit.


[09-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least we know now what it takes for a game not to get bought by Epic I guess


[09-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess the decision to launch Wow Classic fulfilled their quota for 'smart business' for the year.


[09-Oct-19 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking does this mean that gamers will now all constantly express solidarity for HK


[09-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
then again, maybe they simply couldn't afford to risk doing otherwise. We've come to the point where Chinese market (i.e. government) can decide if a company lives or dies. Ah, well.


[09-Oct-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Gamers rise up


[09-Oct-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf I'm happy now


[09-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/464956-pelosi-fires-back-at-trump-over-letter-only-the-latest-attempt-to-cover-up-his

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Pelosi hits back at Trump over letter: 'Only the latest attempt to...
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) fired back at President Trump on Tuesday evening and accused the president of trying to “cover up” his dealings with Ukraine after the White House sent a letter saying it would not cooperate with the House’s impeach
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[09-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/464955-trump-directed-perry-state-dept-officials-to-talk-to-giuliani-on

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Trump directed Perry, State Dept. officials to talk to Giuliani on...
President Trump instructed Energy Secretary Rick Perry and two top State Department officials to talk with his private attorney Rudy Giuliani about Ukraine, CNN
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[09-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"When asked by CNN if he had spoken to Perry about Ukraine, Giuliani said, "Did Henry Kissinger ever call me about Ukraine. What about Colin Powell," before saying those conversations were privileged."


[09-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
read around on blizzard thing for context... One, I pity the two guys who got dragged along with the idiot in question. They certainly did nothing except being in the wrong place at the wrong time. That sucks.


[09-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blizzard has a really big presence in China btw.


[09-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
two... I really hope Blizzard finds a way to deal with it with minimal damage. For the entirely selfish reason that I started playing Classic, I enjoy it immensely, and would really truly hate to see this shit get in the way of it's development. Remains to be seen if there WILL be a development, but one can hope.


[09-Oct-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I know ethical consumerism isn't really anything you should rely on, but this is one of those situations where you might be able to put some pressure on them


[09-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
but to what end? They can't apologise to the guy publicly. That's even worse than banning him in the first place. They could quietly reinstate the streamers, and that would earn my personal respect. Make it seem natural, I'm sure it can be done.


[09-Oct-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6460249-White-House-Letter-to-Speaker-Pelosi-Et-Al-10-08.html

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White House Letter to Speaker Pelosi, Et Al 10 08 2019
Source document contributed to DocumentCloud by Paola Chavez (CNN).
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[09-Oct-19 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
just boycott the platform entirely


[09-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
but the guy? Well, he had his shot at being famous and remembered. He used it well.


[09-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
what followed was, in one form or another, inevitable.


[09-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
no, the pressure points are obvious. But to what end? What would you expect them to do now?


[09-Oct-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
sell out to china


[09-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
...well that seems to be a forgone conclusion. I was thinking about what would you expect the effects or actions that the boycott promted to be. Hypothetically at least.


[09-Oct-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
make it clear that blizzard's market is not the west in general


[09-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
that is, they should just move operations to china and become a chinese company


[09-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
well, that would hurt the silent majority, because a chinese-based company means a wide-open database of whatever personal info you might have released, at one point or another. And they have a wealth of it.


[09-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
(I mean, more wide-open than usual)


[09-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not even the Epic store meme, there's no maybes about it.


[09-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
come to think of it, this situation would also set the precedent on who's allowed to compete in tournaments based on their political affiliation. And how damaging it can be for the wrong guy to get a spotlight.


[09-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's regardless of the outcome.


[09-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
...he just couldn't wait until after the official, Blizzard-endorsed event was over before basicly becoming a martyr, could he. Might have gotten the money out the way, too.


[09-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://imgur.com/gallery/zxzCWLm/comment/1731923879

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I for one welcome our new Chinese Overwatch.
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[09-Oct-19 07:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsW226OHc7U

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Jim Sterling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsW226OHc7U
Activision Blizzard Sides With Oppressive Chinese Government Again...
As Hong Kong protesters continue to demonstrate over police brutality and oppressive Chinese authority, a Hearthstone player who voiced solidarity is being p...
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[09-Oct-19 08:24 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah... This is gonna get worse before it gets better.


[09-Oct-19 08:26 AM] Opponent#3498
like everything else right now, it seems.


[09-Oct-19 10:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It makes my heart to see my country rotting from the inside


[09-Oct-19 03:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇹🇼 can anyone on an updated iPhone see this?


[09-Oct-19 03:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://qz.com/1723334/apple-removes-taiwan-flag-emoji-in-hong-kong-macau-in-ios-13-1-1/

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Apple bows to China by censoring Taiwan flag emoji
The keyboard has become a political battleground.
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[09-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah... This is what happens, when a government can gatekeep it's people enough to act as a single entity customer. A grotesque version of free market in action.


[09-Oct-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what has taiwan done to offend the great and fuckable china?


[09-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it exists, probably.


[09-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not being good boy/girl/it.


[09-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
a symbol that chinese peopel can be democratic and not just neo-slaves


[09-Oct-19 03:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
China thinks Taiwan is part of China and has just gone rogue.


[09-Oct-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china thinks the world is part of china and has gone rogue


[09-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of like low-key Russia thinks about us, it seems :D


[09-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
only the scale is slightly different.


[09-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) you're not wrong :(


[09-Oct-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite frankly it;s surprising they havent just absorbed north korea by now but i;m assuming north korea has some form of deal with them to prevent that from happening currently


[09-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Opponent#3498
that and it's a shithole.


[09-Oct-19 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
to integrate it properly is a hell of a challenge.


[09-Oct-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, but it;s a shithole that can be paved over for more slave camps and factories!


[09-Oct-19 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, actually absorbing north korea would be a challenge


[09-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it's much cheaper and vastly easier to just drip feed them food for, well, ever. And listen to the current Undying Sun or whatever rant about how they'll nuke the world on occasion.


[09-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
a stable system.


[09-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
cause it's not just economy, it's people that you'd have to do something about.


[09-Oct-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think china has proved it's willing to blend people into meatshakes if things aren't working out...


[09-Oct-19 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's true.


[09-Oct-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm hoping hong kong doesnt fall into that fate


[09-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't have enough knowledge about the region to have an opinion on it, sadly.


[09-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. They're valuable, to chinese people and to the world.


[09-Oct-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5072bbc7b7894d63892997e2313b88fb

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China criticizes Apple for app that tracks Hong Kong police
BEIJING (AP) — Apple became the latest company targeted for Chinese pressure over protests in Hong Kong when the ruling Communist Party's main newspaper criticized the tech giant Wednesday for a...
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[09-Oct-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dbe7d941eeaf44eba1e571e4ec0c6ea6

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Kurds mobilize in Syria as Turkey poised for imminent attack
AKCAKALE, Turkey (AP) — Warning of a "humanitarian catastrophe," Syrian Kurdish forces who are allied with the United States issued a general mobilization call Wednesday as Turkey threatened to...
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[09-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181913137483829250

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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....No Pressure at all said Ukraine! Very congenial, a perfect call. The Whistleblower and others spoke BEFORE seeing the Transcript. Now they must apologize to me and stop this ridiculous impeachment!
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[09-Oct-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm not guilty at all, come on guys ignore allt he evidence and just let me commit these perfectly innocent crimes! WITCH HUNT COLLUSION BURGER! EXECUTE THE WHISTLEBLOWER! I AM GOD!"


[09-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much, yeah.


[09-Oct-19 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
proper commentary on yesterday's letter

> "Trump's presidency is creating a constitutional crisis and is worthy of impeachment" "No U" https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/deranged-trump-letter-calls-impeachment-unconstitutional.html

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In Deranged, Quasi-legal Rant, Trump Calls Impeachment Unconstitut...
A White House memo calling the impeachment inquiry “illegitimate” reads like a Trumpian rally diatribe lightly edited by an attorney.
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[09-Oct-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure he;s read the constitution...


[09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m just waiting for him to call the constitution a dirty traitor and call for it;s burning because it defied him


[09-Oct-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he'll claim that's what we did in the old days and yell about how it;s just an invention of the democrats to suppress his power


[09-Oct-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also saying how article two still gives him the power to do everything he wants with no reprucussions


[09-Oct-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the executive is congress's bitch


[09-Oct-19 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
pfft


[09-Oct-19 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
> Money. It's always about money. Apple wants to penetrate the Chinese market, so in return, they're letting the Chinese government penetrate them.


[09-Oct-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/df8qwy/apple_bows_to_china_by_censoring_taiwan_flag_emoji/f326vlq?context=3


[09-Oct-19 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🇹🇼


[09-Oct-19 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🇹🇼 :nut: 🇹🇼


[09-Oct-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 :spikegag:


[09-Oct-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean


[09-Oct-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what bothers me is that they're forcing non-Chinese to comply with Chinese censorship


[09-Oct-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
rather than, you know, creating separate servers for China where things can be censored there only


[09-Oct-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Less effort involved in crushing your enemies than building a fence


[09-Oct-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atlest as far as china is concerned


[09-Oct-19 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"taiwan does not exist and anyone in the world who thinks otherwise has been insufficiently trained in xi jinping thought and must be reeducated"


[09-Oct-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
China doesn't want dedicated chinese servers, they want the world to be china;s dedicated server


[09-Oct-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're also trying to crush any outside rebellion from occurring


[09-Oct-19 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, makes sense


[09-Oct-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want outside nations to stay out of the hong kong business, and they want people to bow the line at their god council


[09-Oct-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/19/taiwan-pledges-help-for-hong-kong-protesters-seeking-sanctuary

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Taiwan pledges help for Hong Kong protesters seeking sanctuary
More than 30 protesters arrive in Taiwan to seek shelter from prosecution
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[09-Oct-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in taiwan's case, it dared to help the hong kong protesters seeking asylum


[09-Oct-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has also gotten far too big to just tianenmen square this bitch without large international backlash unlike in 1989 when social media wasn;t a thing and china was able to be far more secretive about it;s shit


[09-Oct-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're trying to kowtow the corporate line so they can use that to prevent such backlash should it be required to tianenmen square it


[09-Oct-19 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://deadspin.com/internal-memo-espn-forbids-discussion-of-chinese-polit-1838881032

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If you paid attention to ESPN channels yesterday, you saw the network repeatedly attempt to grapple with the story of Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey creating an international incident after tweeting and then deleting his support for pro-democracy protestors in Ho...
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[09-Oct-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/9/20906110/blizzard-hearthstone-ban-hong-kong-china-epic-games-fortnite-blitzchung and here comes epic to save the day!

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Woke Fortnite
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[09-Oct-19 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, of course they do.


[09-Oct-19 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
they simply would not let the guy with questionable background compete in the first place.


[09-Oct-19 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm kinda glad this got so big. Means if Blizzard is getting thrown under the bus, so would many others, and nobody would be willing to go that far.


[09-Oct-19 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
every loss US or any other company takes due to this is net chinese gain.


[09-Oct-19 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
China is holding corporations hostage so they'll be forced to comply with china to stay afloat, and incase political shit goes down, the corporations will do china;s work of paying off the politicians themselves


[09-Oct-19 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much.


[09-Oct-19 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
problem is, I for example have no idea how can this be countered.


[09-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
pushing the companies out of US market isn't great. Legislature doesn't work too well, because, at the end, _theoretically_ the private corps are free to decide their own policy.


[09-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
in practice, when faced with a huge yet very demanding client...


[09-Oct-19 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
honestly, as shitty as it sounds, doing relatively minor things like half-assed (perhaps intentionally) censoring by apple or preventing politically charged individuals from getting on the soap box is the lesser cost.


[09-Oct-19 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yet it still only propagates the issue.


[09-Oct-19 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know. This is one of those 'thank the heavens I'm not the one tasked with the decision' moments. Personally I just hope Blizzard weathers the storm, and the rest... We'll have to see.


[09-Oct-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s getting dicey out there and i;m glad i don;t own a multimillion dollar corporation right now


[09-Oct-19 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
damn straight.


[09-Oct-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/turkey-launches-military-operation-in-northern-syria-erdogan

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Turkey launches military operation in northern Syria
President Erdoğan announces start of operation, as explosions reported near border
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[09-Oct-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fuck you, Trump.


[09-Oct-19 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you senile, gullible idiot.


[09-Oct-19 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he's practically just committed his first war crime. rite of passage for every US president, it seems.


[09-Oct-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia and turkey gave him the dsignal and he abandoned our allies for a fat check


[09-Oct-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america's allies, are not Trump's allies, Trumps allies are those he can blackmail or those who can blackmail him or pay him off


[09-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
"his first war crime"


[09-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
remember the Yemen raid where they shot a little kid thru the nekk?


[09-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fulfilling Trump's campaign promise to "go after their families"


[09-Oct-19 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah...


[09-Oct-19 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, at least this one's his first publicized indirect war crime, i guess


[09-Oct-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
The US doesn't deserve anything it has


[09-Oct-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck my damn country. I want out


[09-Oct-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[09-Oct-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/c20157yl They'll get rid of the fakenews by becoming the fake news!

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[09-Oct-19 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
somehow https://i.redd.it/65mf522bwhr31.jpg

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[09-Oct-19 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
all game companies suck tbf


[09-Oct-19 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the big ones that is


[09-Oct-19 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
The gamers rose up


[09-Oct-19 06:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only pure one is House House because they refuse to acknowledge Australia exists.


[09-Oct-19 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so far Ubisoft's likely the last one not tainted by controversy, but that can and will change


[09-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/bo8r13vi0ir31.png

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[09-Oct-19 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has nintendo done anything yet or are we only talking like western game companies here?


[09-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not with China


[09-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They are allowing an exclusive Switch game that's super blatant nationalist propaganda though


[09-Oct-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21199701

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Gamers propose punishing Blizzard by flooding it with GDPR requests
Hacker News


[09-Oct-19 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which game?


[09-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://gematsu.com/2019/09/hinomaruko-tgs-2019-teaser-trailer

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Hinomaruko TGS 2019 teaser trailer - Gematsu
Publisher Pikii and developer Tamsoft have released the Tokyo Game Show 2019 teaser trailer for Hinomaruko, the newly announced action game about a girl fighting against giant mechs in a military world setting. Here is the premise, via the trailer: 2039 A.D. The lifeline of t...
https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Hinomaruko-PV_09-16-19.jpg


[09-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm watching the trailer and just thinking "Boy this anime robot girl couldn't handle a nuke"


[09-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I mean the blizzard executives certainly made the math and stay in good terms with China government and ensure the very profitable market there seemed to compensate this current backlash


[09-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
it's business isn't it


[09-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
mhh, banning the broadcasters doesn't seem like a weighted and careful decision to me. It seems like panic.


[09-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
still... if I was Blizzard exec, and THIS is what dropped out of the blue on my lap, I'd sure as hell be panicking.


[09-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Blizzard almost certainly has offices in mainland china that would have a government attache to tell them what to do


[09-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I'd think so too


[09-Oct-19 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that game looks interesting, I see the nationalist propoganda part though


[09-Oct-19 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465026-american-diplomats-told-to-stay-quiet-about-funding-ukraine-report

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American diplomats told to stay quiet about release of aid to Ukra...
The Trump administration encouraged U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ukraineflag_041319getty.jpg


[09-Oct-19 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“Keep moving, people, nothing to see here …” Freden reportedly said in the Sept. 12 email, according to the Times.


[09-Oct-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shocking


[09-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't get it. Wouldn't announcing the aid be beneficial to Trump?


[09-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
like, at worst it's a sign of weakness, 'oh snap I've been caught, I better reconsider my position'.


[09-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
and that really wouldn't be the primary concern these days.


[09-Oct-19 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it's obviously good for us short-term, even if half a good part will be stolen as usual.


[09-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Opponent#3498
but I still don't get the rationale behind being so low-key, and it surfaced now anyway so the point is moot


[09-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it was part of a quid pro quo scheme.


[09-Oct-19 07:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-synagogue-shooting-latest-live-today-dead-grenade-shooter-a9148811.html

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'Shots fired' in second town after gunman launches deadly attack o...
Follow latest updates after multiple people shot in attack
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[09-Oct-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
> The man accused of attacking a synagogue in Germany appears to have broadcast his attack on the Twitch live-streaming video platform. Speaking in English, the man called himself "anon" and announced himself as a Holocaust denier.


[09-Oct-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
But of course

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[09-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
> Because it was part of a quid pro quo scheme.


[09-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
which would imply that Ukraine did look and found nothing.


[09-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Shocker.


[09-Oct-19 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
idk if it can really be "stolen"


[09-Oct-19 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
the way military aid is distributed by the US is that the US disburses a nominal monetary amount to the country as aid, and then the country gets to choose what weapons it would like to buy using that nominal amount


[09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
well, as long as they get purely material goods and not cash or transactions, it's reasonably transparent.


[09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191009-spain-declares-support-for-turkey-military-operation-in-syria/

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Spain declares support for Turkey military operation in Syria
Spain has announced its support for Turkey's planned military operation into northern Syria, making it the first European country to do so.    Spain's official North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (...
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[09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] ononim#8141
La Bruh Momento


[09-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait the US basically gives out Raytheon gift cards?


[09-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[09-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
that's how it works


[09-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
aid disbursement is NOT cash


[09-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
Unfortunately, as much as everyone loves to hear about how Manatees are no longer listed as endangered, this is probably the main reason for why that's happened; they moved the goal posts to better enable short-term profits
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/climate/endangered-species-act-changes.html

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U.S. Significantly Weakens Endangered Species Act
The Trump administration announced far-reaching revisions to the Endangered Species Act, which was first enacted in 1973.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/05/31/climate/00CLI-ENDANGERED-promo/00CLI-ENDANGERED-eagle-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Oct-19 07:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sanchez is such a toad


[09-Oct-19 07:29 PM] ononim#8141
Sanchez is from PSOE&


[09-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. Any context for that? Because they didn't just commit to assiting Turkey with practicing their time-honored tradition of ethnic cleansing for shits and giggles, did they?


[09-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain sells weapons


[09-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mostly missiles, mines, and boats


[09-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are fair there's a deal for some big arms purchase that's been in negotiations this year


[09-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, yeah, that'd make sense.


[09-Oct-19 07:32 PM] ononim#8141
Real question, why aren't arms dealers not hnaged from the lamposts in every city they are?


[09-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
eh. It's good money. Consistent demand.


[09-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
probably one of the more stable business ventures across the years.


[09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/03/congress-syria-withdrawal-1252185


[09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
>  Rand Paul, Ocasio-Cortez praise Trump for Syria withdrawal


[09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
> The Kentucky GOP senator, New York Democratic congresswoman and a bipartisan group of 10 other lawmakers wrote Trump on Wednesday to offer “bipartisan support of your announcement of the start of a ‘deliberate withdrawal’ of U.S. military forces in Syria,” according to a letter sent to the president. The group of lawmakers declares that the U.S. presence in Syria is in “violation of the Constitution” because Congress never approved it and also urges Trump to wind down the war in Afghanistan.


[09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
Okay, not it's Cancel™ time


[09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
> The letter was led by Paul and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) and signed by lawmakers including Lee, a Republican senator from Utah, and Reps. Omar (D-Minn.), Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), Justin Amash (R-Mich.), Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), Bill Posey (R-Fla.), Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.).


[09-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1181655223921778689

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https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1181655223921778689
Trump’s sudden withdrawal from northern Syria & endorsement of Turkey’s actions could have catastrophic consequences & risks laying the ground for immense violence and suffering.

We can pursue a strategy to stop our endless wars without endangering the lives of innoce...
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[09-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
um


[09-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
what's ocasio-cortez doing


[09-Oct-19 07:39 PM] ononim#8141
So


[09-Oct-19 07:39 PM] ononim#8141
Is politico lying?


[09-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Withdrawl" probably wasn't interpreted as "just leave and give Turkey the go to do whatever"

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[09-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
the article is from april


[09-Oct-19 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It sounds like trump pulled a darth vader and altered the deal they signed on to


[09-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/465032-poll-21-percent-of-gop-voters-would-prefer-pence-as-president

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Poll: 21 percent of GOP voters would prefer Pence as president
Two in 10 Republican voters say they would rather see Vice President Pence as the commander in chief, according to a new Hill-HarrisX poll.
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[09-Oct-19 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/christie_ileto/status/1181779722243575809?s=21

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The moment Sam Wachs and his wife are escorted out of the @sixers preseason game against a Chinese basketball team for yelling “Free Hong Kong.” @6abc https://t.co/3HlZxKXDzs
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[09-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/09/business/nba-china-partners/index.html

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All of the NBA's official Chinese partners have suspended ties with the league as it grapples with the fallout from a team manager's controversial tweet about Hong Kong.
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[09-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
💸


[09-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well, he tried to make a stand and got the company's backing xD


[09-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
we'll see what remains of them in a month.


[09-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/10/09/two-sixers-fans-booted-from-game-over-free-hong-kong-signs/

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Two Sixers fans booted from game over ‘Free Hong Kong’ signs
A pair of fans holding “Free Hong Kong” signs were booted from a Philadelphia 76ers game against Chinese squad Guangzhou Loong Lions Tuesday night, according to new reports. Sam Wachs a…
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[09-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Opponent#3498
the chinese picked a perfect time to make a play, too.


[09-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump administration is incapable of responding at the moment, and neither are their opponents, past occasional remarks in passing.


[09-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
until this gets sorted, and it might take a long while, China is free to literally make or break any US company they deal with.


[09-Oct-19 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
...which is probably all of them, now.


[09-Oct-19 08:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/turkey-syria-invasion-civillians-civil-war-refugees-a9149476.html

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Why Turkey's invasion into Syria could spark a humanitarian catast...
The UN warns 1.7 million people at risk as Turkey invades northern Syria, over a third of which already rely on aid
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[09-Oct-19 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sometimes life do be like dat


[09-Oct-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166319.shtml

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US political correctness kills NBA's market in China
Some American elites want to turn the NBA's promotion in China into a powerful display of the arrogant US political correctness. This is a luxurious idea.
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[09-Oct-19 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
Ha ha I just reminded what afaik the Rohingya genocide wasn't resolved either!


[09-Oct-19 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
It never ends!


[09-Oct-19 08:06 PM] ononim#8141
All hopes really are only the posionous flowers, luring men with a moment of sweetness only to repay thousand folds with bitterness


[09-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
A LUXURIOUS IDEA


[09-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
China's politically-correct wording is so damn obvious.


[09-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166422.shtml

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Americans can’t understand China through South Park show
Our world is diverse. China and other countries will not act according to the US attitude. Such an era has already passed. The US should try to understand China and coordinate with China. This is not catering to China, but an inevitable choice for different countries’ commo...
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[09-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
welp, someone already decided to start licking chinese butts.


[09-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is clearly the position of at least this portal.


[09-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It is very hard for China and the US to fully embrace each other. The two countries are in a run-in period. When Americans realize that China is not what they have imagined, they start to use their own standards to judge China. The US feels uncomfortable because China, as a large country, has profoundly influenced Americans' lives. More importantly, China is not the country that Americans want it to be.

The US must learn to embrace China, no matter how hard the process will be. The US used to dominate the world, but as China rises, the US' future is to a large extent connected with China. Without China, the world that Americans recognize is incomplete."


[09-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Their government and their lack of concern for human rights is fundamentally disgusting to me and most Americans


[09-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Unfortunately that doesn't count for too much when economics are in play.


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Turn down their blood money


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
the article probably isn't even wrong factually :/ But the way it's worded, damn, you could at least be subtle, instead of getting your tongue inches deep in there.


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
has anyone ever done that? Rejected the blood money?


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, fuck China honestly


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't want reconciliation or cooperation


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want a democratic regime


[09-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want them to let Tibet and Hong Kong go


[09-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
well, for me a dominant China is literally worse than apocalypse. I'll take extinction event over the death of personal freedom on global scale. But right now?


[09-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
sometimes this looks inevitable.


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, the article is written by a chinese company


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
notice the .cn


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
oh. Well. That explains it.


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i want China to enforce human rights but they're way too filthy rich and powerful to do that


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
less enthusiastic analingus, more government order.


[09-Oct-19 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a global boycott of Chinese products wouldn't matter


[09-Oct-19 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow literal cyberpunk dystopian discourse


[09-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
can't help but draw parallels between Russia and us here. We can't really beat Russia, in the field or diplomatically. Can only hope they themselves reconsider or fall apart.


[09-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
and hold the line in the meantime.


[09-Oct-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166420.shtml

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Chinese hail Blizzard for punishing player for supporting HK riots
US gaming company Blizzard is winning more support among Chinese players and netizens after the firm announced it would punish an e-sports player who voiced support for the Hong Kong riots at a company-sponsored tournament.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2019/2019-10-09/5f6050b0-651f-4c62-a70c-02a902446bb9.jpeg


[09-Oct-19 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
capitalism.


[09-Oct-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just... capitalism, man. the all-consuming void.


[09-Oct-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm so shocked that china threw it;s good dog a treat


[09-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a signal for others.


[09-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Opponent#3498
do good, get a treat. Do bad, get the stick.


[09-Oct-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gives the other good dogs more incentive to obey for treats


[09-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Opponent#3498
yes.


[09-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
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[09-Oct-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
antifa Mei? me like


[09-Oct-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if they jsut remove mei instead of banning overwatch does the internet just do this for every character until there are none left?


[09-Oct-19 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
real shit?


[09-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POUM

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POUM
The Workers' Party of Marxist Unification (Spanish: Partido Obrero de Unificación Marxista, POUM; Catalan: Partit Obrer d'Unificació Marxista) was a Spanish communist political party formed during the Second Republic and mainly active around the Spanish Civil War. It was fo...
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[09-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
> The writer George Orwell served with the party's militia and witnessed the Stalinist repression of the movement, which would help form his anti-authoritarian ideas in later life.


[09-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, I don't think so. First page on google doesn't seem to indicate that's the plan.


[09-Oct-19 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
poum poum poum


[09-Oct-19 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
pooooouuuum


[09-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465061-democratic-lawmaker-we-should-march-uncooperative-witnesses-to-a-little-jail

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Democratic lawmaker: We should 'march' uncooperative witnesses 'to...
A California Democrat said Wednesday that the House should begin holding Trump administration officials and allies of the president who refuse to cooperate with congressional investigations in inherent contempt and "march them off" to custody unti
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/garamendijohn_052015gn_lead.jpg


[09-Oct-19 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
yes, this is an official power of the legislative branch


[09-Oct-19 09:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49986700

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Crash death parents 'let down' by governments
Harry Dunn's parents say their meeting with the foreign secretary felt like a "publicity stunt".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/13A2B/production/_109172408_mediaitem109172407.jpg


[09-Oct-19 09:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Driving on the wrong side of the road is ok if you have diplomatic immunity.


[09-Oct-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/09/trump-declares-war-and-yes-our-full-blown-constitutional-crisis-is-happening-now/

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Trump declares "war" — and the constitutional crisis is here
Insane White House letter — clearly dictated by Trump himself — suggests he's ready to overturn the Constitution
https://media.salon.com/2019/10/trump-10031.jpg


[09-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like there's stuff missing in that article


[09-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
> As Stephen Colbert put it late on Tuesday:
> 
> It wasn't just the comedians saying so. Conservative legal scholars and Republican insiders have joined in:


[09-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
there's spaces there like there's supposed to be something there, but I'm not seeing anything


[09-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498

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[09-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robasghar/2018/07/11/china-goes-1984-while-america-goes-brave-new-world-but-whats-next/

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China Goes '1984' While America Goes 'Brave New World'--But What's...
Many social critics and observers have argued in recent decades that the Orwellian notion of a dystopian, "Big Brother is watching you" future was a false alarm.

Not so fast.
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[09-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
article is 1 year old, but still relevant


[09-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/465075-mcsally-says-senate-taking-serious-look-at-trump-call-unlike-partisan-house

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McSally says Senate taking 'serious look' at Trump call unlike 'pa...
Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) said House Democrats' impeachment inquiry into President Trump was a "serious matter" but decried the "partisan bickering," while adding the Senate Intelligence Committee would take the matter more seriously.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcsallymartha_050719gn2_lead.jpg


[09-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unrelated, but something I made in relation to the batshit insane political ignorance of someone I know https://imgflip.com/i/3cu668

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patrick not my wallet
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[09-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
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[09-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
reminder about what happened after the tiananmen square tank photo was shot


[09-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465093-trump-says-hed-cooperate-with-impeachment-inquiry-if-the-rules-are

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Trump says he'd cooperate with impeachment inquiry 'if the rules a...
President Trump on Wednesday said he might be willing to cooperate with House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, but only if they hold a formal vote to outlines rules for the investigation and if
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_100919getty.jpg


[09-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
complying with the law doesn't have asterisks connected to it


[09-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
you comply with the law and everything's ok, or you don't and you get fucked


[09-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
there is nothing unfair about the laws governing impeachment


[09-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, they're a bit too weak


[09-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh, he just wants to subpoena Biden so his campaign will be distracted


[09-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, isn't biden under warren now?


[09-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[09-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Nixon was miles ahead of McGovern, the break-in was pointless


[09-Oct-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/bill-barr-dick-cheney-impeachment-trump-896387/

In Bill Barr, Trump Found His Dick[...]

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In Bill Barr, Trump Found His Dick Cheney
Trump’s attorney general has not gone rogue. He’s living out his authoritarian fantasy
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[09-Oct-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-criticizes-icig-he-appointed-for-finding-whistleblower-complaint-credible-and-urgent/

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Trump Criticizes ICIG He Appointed for Finding Whistleblower Compl...
President Donald Trump sent a barrage of early morning tweets on Wednesday blaming one of his own political appointees for the impeachment drama currently overwhelming the White House.
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[09-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/kDpSV78

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Insight into shady Chinese (gaming) business practices from Mark Kern; Starcraft, D2, WC3:TFT, & WoW Dev
https://i.imgur.com/0i6HEeth.jpg


[09-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim @Mikey


[09-Oct-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/870557/lindsey-graham-clearly-disagreed-trumps-impeachment-obstruction-back-1998

He disagreed before discovering the taste of Annoying Orange's quivering poopchute

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Lindsey Graham clearly disagreed with Trump's impeachment obstruct...
One of the interesting things about watching the impeachment of President Trump play out is that many of the main actors were also in Congress when Republicans impeached (but failed to convict) President Bill Clinton in late 1998 and early 1999.
The White House cited old impe...
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[09-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow these morons. They'll understand eventually.


[09-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
or maybe not morons, but just capitalising on free publicity.


[09-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao what https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465093-trump-says-hed-cooperate-with-impeachment-inquiry-if-the-rules-are

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Trump says he'd cooperate with impeachment inquiry 'if the rules a...
President Trump on Wednesday said he might be willing to cooperate with House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, but only if they hold a formal vote to outlines rules for the investigation and if
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_100919getty.jpg


[09-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just wants to get Jordan and Gaetz to screech at Biden with Solomon conspiracy theories


[10-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. Here's another angle on the Blizzard thing. They had the intentionally vague rule against people who like to game the system. The guy knew it coming in. But it's more than that. If they'd let it stay, they'd have to either let everything stay from here on out, or officially pick and choose. Both of those are problematic on their own.


[10-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
so yeah, many business and public company considerations, vs reeeeee muh freedom of speech.


[10-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's only a problem in autocratic nations


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, obviously. This whole thing stems from the fact that China is both a government and a customer. Like, one homogenous customer


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
that's where capitalism results in this


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
China is already influencing many U.S companies


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
and there's finally people waking up to it


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
I said this like 6-7 months ago


[10-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
and personally noticed it years ago


[10-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it happening or people waking up?


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
It's been happening for a long long time now


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about they are trying to buy everyone?


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
china's been putting a lot of cultural pressure on american companies to conform to their autocratic ideals


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
no, everyone wants to get into the chinese market


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's 1.3 billion people


[10-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's a loooooot of potential money


[10-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I heard that they invest a ton in african continent


[10-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
yes, in order to get those nations indebted to china


[10-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
America has bent the knee to China for probably over two decades


[10-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
america itself hasn't, it's been in a mutually beneficial deal for decades


[10-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
but china's been making american companies bend the knee for the past 10 years or so


[10-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But point, some countries implemented know-how of national firewalls


[10-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
America's politicians set us up for this


[10-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:trixdisgust:


[10-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Need that China money too, after all


[10-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/582626648495489044


[10-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
this was when I was arguing against china


[10-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
so about 5 months ago


[10-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
> I don't fucking get people who want china to "win" globally, it's a shithole for workers and freedom of thought


[10-Oct-19 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Decades ago the belief was that American business and economic openness would allow China to liberalize through the influence of American business. China's power was under-estimated. Or the liberal belief too naïve. The concept died I think just before Bush left office.


[10-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism doesn't want liberalism.


[10-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wants exactly what China is as the endgame.


[10-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They really just wanted the US to become China, not China to become the US


[10-Oct-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's actually all Capitalism. They didn't speak of Standard Oil as a company, they spoke of it as a Combination: a great monolithic octopus that swallowed up entire industries to add to its girth.


[10-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
china is a state capitalist dystopia now


[10-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
it used to be a socialist dystopia


[10-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
granted, the only real (yet very major) difference between state capitalism and socialism is that state capitalism still has a profit motive


[10-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
venezuela was also state capitalist, even though it used to be socialist


[10-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
there seems to be a trend of socialist countries becoming state capitalist


[10-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you gain the benefits of ground level markets for some stuff AND your propaganda becomes great.


[10-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because you cannot survive without trade


[10-Oct-19 12:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Look at ussr, it stagnated in isolation.


[10-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR stagnated in isolation because the west isolated it from the global markets


[10-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
mainly the US


[10-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
granted, it also isolated itself via stalinism


[10-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
blizzcon in 3 weeks


[10-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
this ought to be good


[10-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
if blizzard doesn't say something it's gonna be an interesting one


[10-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
and they're going to reveal the next WoW expansion too


[10-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just picturing them forcing people to agree to not say anything "politically sensitive" at blizzcon or be banned from the con


[10-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Combined with every other question at panels being about HK/Taiwan, mikes going silent, people being dragged out, Pooh shirts and plushies everywhere, and the entire thing being shut down halfway through the first day


[10-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/

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Statement on Blitzchung - BMK Gaming
I certainly never expected that my position in the Hearthstone community would lead to me making a statement on sensitive topics regarding international relations, but I have always viewed my strange place as a public figure in gaming as an opportunity to try to make the worl...
http://bmkgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/blitchung.jpg


[10-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically if Brian Kibler is saying something's wrong, then shit has hit the fan as far as Hearthstone


[10-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
'But when I am on the desk for an official Hearthstone broadcast, I leave those views at home. Maybe I’ll make a subtle snide remark on occasion, but I know that I am representing Blizzard in addition to myself. If I were to close a show with speech about how I feel like Trump should be impeached, I wouldn’t expect to be invited back for future events.

All that having been said, there are additional factors at play here. The punishment meted out to Blitzchung is incredibly harsh. I could understand a fine, or even a short suspension from competitive play, but removal from Grandmasters, clawing back the prizes he already earned, and banning him for a full year seems completely overboard to an extent that feels completely unwarranted and unfair.'


[10-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
His stance is Blizzard was right to punish spouting political views at the event, but very excessive about it in a way clearly showing they want to pander to China.


[10-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Opponent#3498
that's closer to the truth than most of reeeee.


[10-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
I never said there was anything wrong with punishing someone for breaking the rules, I actually specifically mentioned that iirc


[10-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably they aso fired the casters.


[10-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, they punished the casters for something that someone else did


[10-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
maybe they had the ability to turn off the mic or something


[10-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but not in time


[10-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't turn it off at all


[10-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment

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Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
Just over half of voters want President Trump impeached and removed from office, according to a Fox News Poll released Wednesday.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/10/09/694940094001_6093507552001_6093508287001-vs.jpg


[10-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
they just covered their faces and hid behind their monitors


[10-Oct-19 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure obama pulling out of iraq (in the same way that trump pulled out of syria) is one of the things most harshly criticized about obama


[10-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
the worse part is that it allowed ISIS to form


[10-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
and that's exactly why trump's being criticized now, many of the leaders of ISIS are still hiding out in the area


[10-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
if the US leaves, they can just regroup and break all their soldiers out of prisons and be on the rise again


[10-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
as much as I think the US spends way too many resources on pointless fighting, it's a stabilizing force in the region


[10-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
there are so many better ways to disengage than pulling out like you're desperately avoiding pregnancy


[10-Oct-19 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424

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[10-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i just posted that in #memes-and-shitposts


[10-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[10-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465102-attorney-for-trump-whistleblower-pushes-back-at-bias-allegations

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Attorneys for Trump whistleblower push back at bias allegations
Lawyers for a member of the U.S. intelligence community who filed a whistleblower complaint against President Trump defended their client on Wednesday against criticism from the president.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/donaldtrump_02052019.jpg


[10-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda irrelevant considering ICIG concluded it was credible


[10-Oct-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Capitalism https://i.redd.it/r4cl5n01pir31.jpg

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[10-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Riding a bus seems awfully socialist of them


[10-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.newsner.com/family/6-year-old-girl-forced-to-do-walk-of-shame-because-she-was-short-for-her-lunch/

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Michael Panter
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6-year-old girl forced to do 'Walk of Shame' because she was $2.25...
What were they thinking?
https://cdn.ebs.newsner.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2019/10/any.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
China Socialist?


[10-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
nah, a well-funded bus system is considered "socialist" by american conservatives


[10-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Regulation is scary to die-hard capitalists


[10-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
China is more capitalist than the US


[10-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
I wouldn't quite say that, but china is a state capitalist institution, yes


[10-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
just like venezuela is


[10-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
norway is technically more "socialist" than venezuela


[10-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
by the way that the conservative propagandists measure how "socialist" a country is (they measure it by how many jobs are in the public sector)


[10-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What is a Conservative?


[10-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465116-trump-asked-tillerson-to-interfere-in-doj-case-against-giuliani

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465116-trump-asked-tillerson-to-interfere-in-doj-case-against-giuliani
Trump asked Tillerson to interfere in DOJ case against Giuliani cl...
President Trump pressured then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help convince the Department of Justice (DOJ) to drop a criminal investigation against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was also a client of Trump's current p
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/tillersonrex_031318getty_lead.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

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Conservatism
Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. The central tenets of conservatism include tradition, organic society, hierarchy, authority, and property rights. Conservatives seek to pres...


[10-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
> In contrast to the tradition-based definition of conservatism, some political theorists such as Corey Robin define conservatism primarily in terms of a general defense of social and economic inequality. From this perspective, conservatism is less an attempt to uphold traditional institutions and more, "a meditation on—and theoretical rendition of—the felt experience of having power, seeing it threatened, and trying to win it back".


[10-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives are all about maintaining the status quo


[10-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
moderates are all about not shaking up the status quo, so they implicitly support conservatism


[10-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I think Trump is giving me grey hair


[10-Oct-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/15/what-does-conservatism-stand-for

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What does conservatism stand for? | Ed Rooksby
Ed Rooksby: Social inequalities and hierarchies can be defended and secured in different ways
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/7/13/1342197991826/Margaret-Thatcher-008.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&enable=upscale&s=6295a1ae19860af9add17550c4de10fe


[10-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/twitter-executive-also-part-time-officer-uk-army-psychological-warfare-unit

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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/twitter-executive-also-part-time-officer-uk-army-psychological-warfare-unit
EXCLUSIVE: Twitter executive for Middle East is British Army 'psyo...
Head of editorial for MENA is part-time officer in the 77th Brigade, an 'information warfare' unit which has worked on 'behavioural change' projects in the region
http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/images-story/77th-brigade2.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[10-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> The senior Twitter executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East is also a part-time officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit, Middle East Eye has established.


[10-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Carter says the 77th Brigade is giving the British military “the capability to compete in the war of narratives at the tactical level”; to shape perceptions of conflict. Some soldiers who have served with the unit say they have been engaged in operations intended to change the behaviour of target audiences.


[10-Oct-19 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:bigbrain:


[10-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr is, modern conservatism was formed in response to the French Revolution


[10-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
not *The Terror*, but the revolution itself threatening the monarchy


[10-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's entirely about preserving the existing holds on power.


[10-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why it's so two-faced, it plays whichever fiddle people will listen to at the moment.


[10-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/twitter-executive-british-army-officer-psyops-gordon-macmillan-a9127036.html

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Twitter's 'head of editorial' for Middle East is officer in Britis...
Gordon MacMillan is a volunteer in the 77th Brigade
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/08/24/15/british-army.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Gordon MacMillan disclosed his role in the 77th Brigade on his own LinkedIn profile, writing: “I have a strong interest in politics and international affairs and am a reserve officer in the British Army serving in 77th Brigade, which specialises in non-lethal engagement.”


[10-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
> The last part of the passage has been deleted since Mr MacMillan’s role was exposed by Middle East Eye.


[10-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And putting down immigrants etc. is a way to make the common voter feel powerful, sympathetic to the elite.


[10-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like THEY are the elite.


[10-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Sounds about right


[10-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I wish Putin would give a damn about domestic


[10-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
issues


[10-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Russian strategy is to not.


[10-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that things will work themselves out at home if everyone is kept in line and other countries are manipulated properly.


[10-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Putin has shown though his actions that he isn't really a politician just an oppertunist to increase his own fortune.


[10-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Already posted.


[10-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what's the difference, Jack?


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians are by default opportunists looking to increase their own fortune.


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
what was already posted?


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hearthstone reddit is going nuts over that, btw, @Itsthinking


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tweet about Weibo


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He keeps talking as if he cares about the people but its just empty words


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/

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Every game company that Tencent has invested in
A quick reference of how China's largest tech conglomerate has quietly expanded into videogames.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/W2nyCkhLuXmwVwuBNvu2uD-1200-80.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it really is 40%


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
for epic games


[10-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well then.


[10-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He says he wants to make Russians believe in the government yet he bans criticism of government officials


[10-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This last term has really bought out Putin's true nature


[10-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, from the outside at least, it looks like he's been doing what he's always done for the past 10-15 years or so


[10-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
I know there's a pretty large amount of brain drain from russia


[10-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
basically people fleeing to other countries with degrees and whatnot


[10-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes but at least he tried to hide it back then, now he doesn't care anymore


[10-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as far as Poland, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49904849

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The leader who sees gay rights as a threat to Poland
LGBT rights have become the biggest single cultural issue as Poland prepares for Sunday's election.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/65B4/production/_109063062_img_1872.jpg


[10-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems that people hate immigrants more than they want equality for the gays.


[10-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Law and Justice is predicted to win.


[10-Oct-19 01:45 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I thick Putin told the former British Prime Minisiter that he put the anti gay laws in place to help boost Russia's population.


[10-Oct-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[10-Oct-19 01:45 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I thought that was really, really stupid


[10-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
I think trying to convince gays to go bisexual would be more effective at boosting population than banning gays


[10-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If Putin wants to boost the population he has to make sure the resources are there for Russians to start a family. Family planning is expensive


[10-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He tried giving families incentives for having more children but it did little to boost the population because the economy is so bad.


[10-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economy's screwed unless he givs up on trying to control oil.


[10-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Needs to branch out into other businesses.


[10-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately Russia's probably just screwed no matter what.


[10-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Putin could fix it through


[10-Oct-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin is too set in his ways to fix his country


[10-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
there's nothing to fix. Everything's working as intended.


[10-Oct-19 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true, this eventual collapse is perfectly intended


[10-Oct-19 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all according to the kgb manifesto


[10-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465122-trey-gowdy-joins-trumps-legal-team

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Trey Gowdy joins Trump's legal team
Former Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) has officially joined President Trump's outside legal defense team as the president gears up for an impeachment battle with the House.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gowdytrey_120617gn_lead.jpg


[10-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/07/nba-is-only-latest-chinese-government-hostage/


[10-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/17bO0Q4.png

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https://i.imgur.com/17bO0Q4.png


[10-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/bKBZ4kC.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/bKBZ4kC.jpg


[10-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-china-forces-american-companies-to-do-its-political-bidding/2018/01/21/52a1d5a0-fd63-11e7-8f66-2df0b94bb98a_story.html


[10-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://qz.com/1723334/apple-removes-taiwan-flag-emoji-in-hong-kong-macau-in-ios-13-1-1/

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https://qz.com/1723334/apple-removes-taiwan-flag-emoji-in-hong-kong-macau-in-ios-13-1-1/
Apple bows to China by censoring Taiwan flag emoji
The keyboard has become a political battleground.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Taiwan-Flag-e1570473501885.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[10-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSnW-ygU5g

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSnW-ygU5g
YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[10-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2019/10/09/johnson-johnson-to-pay-8b-to-man-who-grew-breasts-after-taking-drug/

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Johnson & Johnson to pay $8B to man who grew breasts after taking drug
A man who said he grew breasts after taking a drug manufactured by pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson will receive $8 billion in punitive damages from the company, a Philadelphia jury ruled…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/johnson-and-johnson-logo.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1

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[10-Oct-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
just a cost of doing business


[10-Oct-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[10-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Almost certainly going to be reduced


[10-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly jury verdicts like this make things harder


[10-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/kUQBAD8

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https://imgur.com/gallery/kUQBAD8
A brief history of the EPA
https://i.imgur.com/7xC12DWh.jpg


[10-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/aUSoC36.jpg

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https://imgur.com/aUSoC36
https://i.imgur.com/aUSoC36.jpg


[10-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
my mom uses this fact to criticize the EPA


[10-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/suchnerve/status/1181684018426908674

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Ⅴⅰⅴⅰαɳ (@suchnerve)
https://twitter.com/suchnerve/status/1181684018426908674
thinking about how “feminazi” magically stopped being a popular anti-feminist slur right around the time the mainstream U.S. right wing decided nazis aren’t too bad, actually
Retweets
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[10-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[10-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1570668473657.webm

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[10-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's not dead surprisingly


[10-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`"They didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy," Trump said of the Kurds`


[10-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
he's actually retarded


[10-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
he knows absolutely nothing of history


[10-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
hah. I always wondered just what did 'make america great again' referred to, specifically. Evidently, he has no clue past the feel-good slogan too.


[10-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously the Kurds should've just flied into France to drop bombs on Hitler.


[10-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is clearly nothing wrong with this idea.


[10-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
flied? They could've walked. :pokerface:


[10-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right across the mediterranean. It has terra in the name, must be a dry seabed.


[10-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-defends-troop-drawdown-in-northern-syria-and-says-isis-fighters-will-escape-to-europe-2019-10-09/

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Trump defends troop drawdown in northern Syria and says ISIS fight...
The president continues to defend his abandonment of Kurdish allies who helped defeat ISIS
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/10/09/a2ea5217-e4ee-405a-abd7-16c3ad740b82/thumbnail/1200x630g2/57eacd9b261d98d1e7882e850e8346a2/ap-19282732915459.jpg


[10-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
> President Trump offered no verbal support Wednesday afternoon for Kurdish allies he is accused of abandoning, as Turkey begins to invade Syria. Instead, Mr. Trump said they have "wanted to fight, and that's the way it is."
> 
> Mr. Trump also said ISIS fighters in the region are "going to be escaping to Europe." The president has said Turkey is now responsible for keeping ISIS fighters in prison in the region. 
> 
> "Well they're going to be escaping to Europe, that's where they want to go, they want to go back to their homes. But Europe didn't want them from us. We could have given it to them, they could have trials, they could have done whatever they wanted. But as usual, it's not reciprocal..." the president said.


[10-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
so how is everyone today?


[10-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Decent.


[10-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
bored, I have nothing due for college all week


[10-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow got ate by a :siren:

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[10-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
it ate my afterimage :reppy:


[10-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was blood.


[10-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you let Reppy become a mimic of you?


[10-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
he used a highly artifacted photo taken of my afterimage to mimic me from


[10-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's why he looks like he does


[10-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[10-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-other-healthcare/465124-sesame-street-to-reveal-muppets-mom-suffered

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Sesame Street to reveal muppet's mom suffered from addiction
"Sesame Street" will reveal one of its muppets' mothers suffered from opioid addiction.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/opioidprescription_istock.jpg


[10-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent the MAGA slogan is just the typical fascist play to get people to put on rose colored glasses


[10-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
and pretend like things were better back in the old days


[10-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Fox News poll from today was the best though


[10-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, economic inequality for white people was better and that's about the only fucking thing


[10-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/10/1862/1048/8ff3ab71-1.png?ve=1&tl=1

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[10-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
so 55% call for impeachment now


[10-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
and 51% call for both impeached and removed


[10-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
also https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/sesame-street-hbo-max.html

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Sesame Street Is Jumping to HBO Max
Along with the full Sesame catalogue, the deal includes a late-night parody show hosted by Elmo.
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2019/10/03/03-sesame-street.w600.h315.2x.jpg


[10-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/dmrwqhyfbsq31.jpg

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[10-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
reposting here because that move is 100% a marketing ploy


[10-Oct-19 04:07 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
@Crow they have a perfectly good streaming service with vrv


[10-Oct-19 04:08 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
WB is stupid


[10-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
we already live in a dystopia, it's just of the "brave new world" kind instead of the "1984" kind


[10-Oct-19 04:09 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
No, it's 1984


[10-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When are the Suede Denim Secret Police coming


[10-Oct-19 04:09 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Except without the public big brother


[10-Oct-19 04:09 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Unless you live in China


[10-Oct-19 04:09 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
BOOM brought it back around!


[10-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
china is 1984


[10-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
the US is brave new world


[10-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robasghar/2018/07/11/china-goes-1984-while-america-goes-brave-new-world-but-whats-next/

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/robasghar/2018/07/11/china-goes-1984-while-america-goes-brave-new-world-but-whats-next/
China Goes '1984' While America Goes 'Brave New World'--But What's...
Many social critics and observers have argued in recent decades that the Orwellian notion of a dystopian, "Big Brother is watching you" future was a false alarm.

Not so fast.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fdam%2Fimageserve%2F871305138%2F960x0.jpg%3Ffit%3Dscale


[10-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
this is from a year ago


[10-Oct-19 04:12 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
NO NOT FORBES


[10-Oct-19 04:13 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Fucking forbes's shitty website is fucking horrid


[10-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
if there's anything shitty about it, it's blocked by my addons (ublock origin and umatrix)


[10-Oct-19 04:14 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
I'm on mobile


[10-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
you can download firefox on mobile and get addons on it (at least on android, don't know if that's possible on apple)


[10-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
not possible on apple


[10-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
I have ublock origin and https everywhere on firefox on my android


[10-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Treascair#7785
For me, NYT, WaPo and Forbes are all impossible.  They break if you have ad blockers, and throw 17,000 ads at you if you don't.


[10-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
apple is so pearl clutchy about web browsers on ios that all the "alternative browsers" are safari reskins


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it's against the app store rules to make a web browser


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Then they have the gawl to put up the fucking you have x number of reads bullshit


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
if you try they'll deny you


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
~~it's also infected Nintendo~~


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
and they censored the 🇹🇼 emoji on apple


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
to appease china


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Wait what is it on Apple then


[10-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://qz.com/1723334/apple-removes-taiwan-flag-emoji-in-hong-kong-macau-in-ios-13-1-1/

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https://qz.com/1723334/apple-removes-taiwan-flag-emoji-in-hong-kong-macau-in-ios-13-1-1/
Apple bows to China by censoring Taiwan flag emoji
The keyboard has become a political battleground.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Taiwan-Flag-e1570473501885.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[10-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
> In a recent update to iOS 13.1, Apple’s iPhone operating system, Apple reportedly removed the Taiwanese flag emoji from its keyboard for users in Hong Kong and Macau, China’s two special administrative regions.


[10-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
almost all news sites' content blockers can be avoided with umatrix


[10-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I've not had much luck with noscript, but umatrix has been critical to avoidance


[10-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
it used to help with washington post, but they changed their scripts so it bundled in the adblock blocker and no subscription scripts in with its video/comment/etc scripts, so the only way to view the entire article is to disable scripts (the site doesn't break entirely, so it's still possible to read the full article, but can't watch videos or look at comments)


[10-Oct-19 04:20 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
Fucking adblock blocker should be fucking banned


[10-Oct-19 04:21 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
There should be a fucking meeting at the W3C or whoever does the standards for HTML to ban that shit


[10-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49984987

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49984987
Mexico mayor tied to car and dragged through town
Locals say the mayor in southern Chiapas did not fulfil his campaign promise of repairing a road.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/87B0/production/_109163743_d3a80e85-e039-43c1-b8f0-7a356201d1c0.jpg


[10-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
god damn


[10-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
that's amazing


[10-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
> It was the second attack by farmers demanding that he fulfil his campaign promise to repair a local road.


[10-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
they have a single road that needs repairing, and they're physically attacking him for not getting it done


[10-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-car-crash-us-diplomat-uk-a9149746.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harry-dunn-anne-sacoolas-car-crash-us-diplomat-uk-a9149746.html
Trump defends diplomat's wife involved in car crash that killed Br...
Comments come as president turns down Boris Johnson request to waive diplomatic immunity
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[10-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
"Fine people on both sides of the road"


[10-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
this fucking dude man


[10-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm having difficulty civilly conveying how god damn tactless he is


[10-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
in such a way that it doesn't denigrate other people


[10-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
like there's no fucking comparison


[10-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not just that he's stupid


[10-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's just a horrific person


[10-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can excuse stupid


[10-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I can excuse a certain amount of cunning evil


[10-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the confluence of massive stupidity and complete lack of any moral compass beyond "me me me", makes my blood boil


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's just pure unadulterated narcissism


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Taken to its logical conclusion


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's Joffrey


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But an adult Joffrey


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And stupider


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He really is though


[10-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is kind of impressive.


[10-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the little shit kid that daddy told everyone to respect and he just got used to it


[10-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then he inherited daddy's money and by sheer force of tantrum and expecting people to do what he said and money, he made whores and sycophants keep at it


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has lived his entire life by lying


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
most people don't believe him, that know anything about him


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he keeps lying


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And every time he got his way his ego (aka "charisma" for weasels) just got bigger and bigger


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
he lies so much you can't tell what's real


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it gaslights you


[10-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, what you initially suspected as real is replaced by an averaging of it and the lies


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's so much unity among the rich that they further it


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It really is impressive


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just put down your fellow rich man, because then it would endanger your finances


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they support him, over and over


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's literally a saturday morning cartoon villain for a show where the protagonists are dogs


[10-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ball of corruption just grows and grows and grows.


[10-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money can buy virtually anything in our current system.


[10-Oct-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Katamari damacy


[10-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out the fatal flaw in all those cartoon villains was they didn't hav good enuff lawyers and shell companies.


[10-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just, comically obviously evil, the sort of thing all those fairy tale stories are supposed to teach us is "bad" and everyone goes "that's just such a silly extreme"


[10-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His existence doesn't surprise me, but the complete cowing to him by his entire party and a practical third of the country does


[10-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess it shouldn't have


[10-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, welp


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hubris is we thought the world had gotten better about this stuff.


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human psychology is just fundamentally flawed.


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
It's completely understandable why the country supports him


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Not because it's rational


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
But because they're brainwashed


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
By fox


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
By facebook


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
By 4chan


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ability to reflect on our beliefs is very limited.


[10-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
FAKE NEWS LIBERAL BIAS


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those beliefs can work into very specific cases.


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
:rowletPanic:


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative movement as a whole is a giant sham.


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
FAHKS AND LAHGICK


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wants nothing more than King Louis XVI to sit on the throne


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the clergy


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and tax the shit out of the poor


[10-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
as we all farm wheat


[10-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I had a bit of a realization about conservatism last night that finally made all the pieces fit for me, though it seems perfectly obvious in retrospect


[10-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatism is based on defending your ego. it is _entirely_ a self serving bias that reinforces you as a character and makes you seem like you're the most important person in the world


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] RollingTheOC#3333
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[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes that's the point


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
the hierarchy is just a side effect of that


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just wanting a hierarchy


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's wanting to be above someone else in one


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not that there are strong delinations, it's just that you think people are below you


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you see things heaped against immigrants


[10-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it allows even the poor people to believe they are the privileged elite.


[10-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can say "Well I hav more rights than those fukking immigrants"


[10-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that makes them feel comfy.


[10-Oct-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
it is the most dangerous self serving bias _ever_


[10-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea that conservatives would be okay with equal rights doesn't understand conservative thinking.


[10-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative thinking is based on the idea that rights for you are at the expense of the same rights for another.


[10-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you can't giv them concessions on things like gay rights


[10-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will not be satisfied with just a slow change


[10-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want the change direction reversed.


[10-Oct-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't necessarily think that's always true


[10-Oct-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
They want a boot to crush underfoot


[10-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way you can get them to be alright with it is if you provide substitute people for them to crush under their boots.


[10-Oct-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Individuals may have a pet cause but it's likely you can unite them into oppressing a new minority as a substitute for a previously oppressed class


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Giving the fags marriage is fine as long as they can shoot black people again


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why they disagree with the 14th amendment


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it guarantees equal rights


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Is it even about agreement or disagreement


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were ever enforced truly objectively, it would completely destroy everything they stand for.


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It's just about feeling


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not logical, it's not rational


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th amendment says everyone is equal


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hate that.


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It's just doing what you think should be done


[10-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Law be damned


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
To accept the 14th is to feel that their very beliefs are dead.


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives couch it in saying "It has been used for too much"


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is Thomas's argument


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, that's the thing with the idea of conservation of rights


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Saying they "disagree" with the 14th is like saying I disagree with oxidizing glucose for energy


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can use the 14th on gays, but then someone else needs to lose rights


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas is basically Squidward in a black robe


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
It is fundamentally not a thing I have any control over


[10-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He never got over Anita Hill and is still super butthurt


[10-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea you can use the 14th on gays, jews, blakks, muslims, transgenders, AND immigrants?


[10-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Makes conservatives' blood boil.


[10-Oct-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
You can, you just need someone for them to take pictures of to the range


[10-Oct-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
like asians


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gorsuch _may_ be the 5th vote on saying Title VII extends to trans people


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was receptive


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
what's title 7


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Him voting with natives on enforcing a treaty is a big deal.


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
CRA1964


[10-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hilarious part about Trump SCOTUS picks is that they will go "fukk you Trump, judicial independence" if they can


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
A SCOTUS justice that actually believes promises to minorities can be kept


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
okay got it


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Discrimination against trans people is necessarily discrimination on the basis of sex


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
How could it not be


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically what's before them now is "Is sexual orientation discrimination considered sex-based discrimination?"


[10-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the interesting thing about this


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the part of the case dealing with sexual identity is way weaker


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your biological sex inherently determines what your sexuality is


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's argued based on the theory sexual identity is covered too by the law itself


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The two cannot be separated


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the trans portion


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's argued based on the sex-substitution idea


[10-Oct-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking, birth sex isn't adequate to describe all cases either


[10-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* that if you fire a guy for showing up to work as a guy instead of a girl, under some other conditions held constant from where he wouldn't be fired as a girl


[10-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
if that isn't sex-based discrimination, *then what is?*


[10-Oct-19 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
What do you do for actual legitimate intersex individuals


[10-Oct-19 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Or with repeated chromosome anomalies


[10-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird part of this is that sex based discrimination based on stereotypes is also not okay


[10-Oct-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
That's missing the point I know but you can't use that argument


[10-Oct-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
It's full of holes


[10-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Refined meme summary of a real fun set of conversations I've had with le failed liberal https://imgflip.com/i/3cvxhh

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patrick not my wallet
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[10-Oct-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
you should change the card to something more relevant imo


[10-Oct-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
instead of the default ID


[10-Oct-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too much work.


[10-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/10/09/kurds-turkey-syria-isis-war-iraq-trump-column/3917818002/

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I fought alongside the Kurds. The United States can't abandon our ...
The Kurds have been a reliable partner for the United States. Betraying them now risks undermining all our progress against the Islamic State.
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[10-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
> As a major in the Air Force who has flown combat missions against the Islamic State, I have seen firsthand the capability of Kurdish fighters. During my missions in 2016, they made up a critical mass of the ground forces flushing ISIS from its strongholds across Iraq and Syria. Together with a small number of U.S. special operators and others making up the moderate Syrian Democratic Forces, the Kurds were instrumental in ending the Islamic State’s territorial caliphate.


[10-Oct-19 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump: tOo LaTe https://bentalasalon.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/zeus-without-beard-1.jpg

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[10-Oct-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-09/massive-california-power-outage-sparks-anger-at-pge

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-09/massive-california-power-outage-sparks-anger-at-pge
PG&E faces anger, mistrust, questions over power outages: 'It is e...
California power outage: Anger at PG&E over massive blackout
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[10-Oct-19 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
> State Sen. Jerry Hill (D-San Mateo), whose district lies within the blackout area, acknowledged there is a fire danger that requires the shutting down of some power lines, but he called the extent of the possible outage troubling.
> 
> “I think it is excessive,” said Hill, a longtime critic of the utility. ”PG&E clearly hasn’t made its system safe. These shutdowns are supposed to be surgical. But shutting down power to 800,000 people in 31 counties is by no means surgical.”
> 
> Hill, who convened a recent hearing on the Public Utility Commission’s oversight of PG&E, called on the state agency to do a “root cause” analysis of the electrical shutdowns.


[10-Oct-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
> “This cannot be something that can be acceptable nor long-term,” Hill said. “This is Third World, and we are not.”


[10-Oct-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
orly


[10-Oct-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
> “PG&E should have been doing the proper maintenance for the last decade,” Clarke said. “This wouldn’t have been necessary [if they had], and I think that’s what has got everyone so angry and frustrated with PG&E right now. This is a crisis of PG&E’s making.”


[10-Oct-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to find out what PG&E actually does with its money


[10-Oct-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think that's public knowledge though, they're a private company


[10-Oct-19 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
even though rates are state controlled, what they do with the revenue they generate isn't likely public knowledge


[10-Oct-19 11:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49995688

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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49995688
Apple drops Hong Kong police-tracking app
The company says the app has been used to target and ambush police and to threaten public safety.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/C05F/production/_109174294_gettyimages-1174230916.jpg


[10-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
wow, they dropped it AGAIN?


[10-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
they really can't make up their minds


[10-Oct-19 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
uphold the values of freedom of thought and expression, or phat chinese money


[10-Oct-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGatVxTU8AA2ECv.jpg

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGatVxTU8AA2ECv.jpg


[10-Oct-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/09/apple-china-quartz-app-store/

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Chance Miller
https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/09/apple-china-quartz-app-store/
Apple removes ‘Quartz’ news app from Chinese App Store- 9to5Mac
Apple has reportedly removed the Quartz application from the App Store completely at the request of the Chinese government.
https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2019/05/Apple-App-Store-antitrust-case.jpg?quality=82&strip=all


[10-Oct-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
> According to Quartz investigations editor John Keefe, Apple has removed the Quartz app from the iOS App Store. The website, which has been covering the Hong Kong protests in detail, has also been blocked across all of mainland China.


[10-Oct-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
apple is just china's little bitch now, isn't it?


[10-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, they've been making their products for cheap for decades, so...


[10-Oct-19 11:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until they can move all their assembly lines elsewhere, they're kinda boned


[10-Oct-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49995494

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49995494
US says it did not approve Turkish offensive
The US secretary of state defends President Trump after Turkey launches an offensive in northern Syria.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/4B89/production/_109173391_057187911.jpg


[10-Oct-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
> US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has denied the US gave Turkey a "green light" for its offensive in Syria.


[10-Oct-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
oh REALLY


[10-Oct-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
so US tropps JUST HAPPENED to pull back at the time that turkey had a massive amount of ordinance pointing in the direction of a kurdish encampment


[10-Oct-19 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's all just a big coincidence


[10-Oct-19 11:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like Turkey hasn't been telling the world it was fully prepared to invade on the word go for weeks now


[10-Oct-19 11:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/09/chinas-destruction-of-uighur-burial-grounds-then-and-now

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Then and now: China's destruction of Uighur burial grounds
China is destroying Uighur graveyards where generations of families have been laid to rest, leaving behind human bones and broken tombs in what activists call an effort to eradicate the ethnic group’s identity in Xinjiang
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[10-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[10-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cemeteries is just a waste of land IMO


[10-Oct-19 12:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cremate and give their reletatives urn with ashes


[10-Oct-19 12:02 PM] Crow#5457
you realize they're destroying literally millennia of history, right?


[10-Oct-19 12:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And what kind of history could cemetry tell


[10-Oct-19 12:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Here lies Big Dong Ung


[10-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He died in 1422 when he was 90 years old


[10-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
the end


[10-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dff5pq/satellite_images_reveal_china_is_destroying/f335b1x/

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Satellite images reveal China is destroying Muslim graveyards wher...
Posted in r/worldnews by u/mczack13 • 100,047 points and 6,702 comments
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[10-Oct-19 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
unfortunately, this isn't a trolly channel, please don't make fun of the systemic destruction of a people and their identity


[10-Oct-19 12:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I dont get u dude


[10-Oct-19 12:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just explain to me whats the point in cemeteries except tradition


[10-Oct-19 12:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or what kind of history lying in here


[10-Oct-19 12:07 PM] Crow#5457
neither of those questions really matter and redirect away from the point that china is DESTROYING AN ETHNICITY


[10-Oct-19 12:07 PM] Crow#5457
I might personally think that cremation is the way to go, but I'm not going to go around bulldozing cemetaries to prove my point


[10-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yeah china is a first nation to bulldoze a graveyard


[10-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its never happened before


[10-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Crow#5457
also, many heirlooms and other shit are buried with the dead, it'd be an archaeologist's dream to study those now destroyed cemetaries


[10-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Crow#5457
and that is whataboutism


[10-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
to say that a shitty thing has happened before in order to justify something similarly shitty happening now is incredibly fallacious at best, and actively malicious at worst


[10-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its china,what can u do about it


[10-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
UN and US cant even control North Korea


[10-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
I don't go around celebrating the trail of tears, or how the US destroyed many burial grounds of native americans


[10-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
actually, north korea is very contained


[10-Oct-19 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
all of their sabre-rattling is bluster to make it seem like they're relevant


[10-Oct-19 12:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats why they launching rockets every month


[10-Oct-19 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
they can launch all the rockets they like, but the moment they actually attack, they're dust


[10-Oct-19 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
china won't defend them


[10-Oct-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
if they attack first


[10-Oct-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
and north korea knows that


[10-Oct-19 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's why they tried so hard to get the US to the negotiating table in order to increase their relevancy in the world, and it's why every president except trump has ignored them


[10-Oct-19 12:14 PM] Crow#5457
and once trump realized they had nothing to offer him, he fucked off


[10-Oct-19 12:14 PM] Crow#5457
even though it would've been clear to him if he had studied even the briefest history of north korea's existence


[10-Oct-19 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
there's been sanctions and shit being done for some of the stuff that china's doing to the uighurs, but a lot of countries are wary of doing anything major because of how much of a grip china currently has on world production due to the reins of capitalism being tied to how big a profit growth can be achieved


[10-Oct-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
basically, in order to actually punish china in any meaningful way, global markets would have to be untied from profit growth, which would mean replacing capitalism with something that doesn't require companies to have massive profit growth rates in order to be considered viable


[10-Oct-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
and I'm not talking just making a profit, a company literally has to have GROWING profits to be considered viable


[10-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
like if a company makes $1,000,000 a year in profits, they're considered dead in the water if they make $1,000,000 the next year in profits


[10-Oct-19 12:19 PM] Crow#5457
they have to make at least $1,030,000 the next year (3% yearly profit growth) to be considered viable, even 1% profit growth will have the company considered in trouble


[10-Oct-19 12:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats sounds retarded


[10-Oct-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
yes, it is retarded


[10-Oct-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
and everyone's starting to see how retarded it is


[10-Oct-19 12:21 PM] Crow#5457
it's why there's been such a big pushback against neoliberalism in the US recently, neoliberals are the "establishment" in both the democratic and the republican parties


[10-Oct-19 12:21 PM] ononim#8141
Graveyards are pretty good historical source you know


[10-Oct-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
yes, graveyards have huge amounts of archaeological data that can be used for dating, tracking the movement of people across the centuries, historical artifacts, etc


[10-Oct-19 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
that's the other reason why I'm pissed about them destroying the graveyards


[10-Oct-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
the main reason is that they're destroying the uighur ethnicity in the same way that the nazis were destroying the jewish ethnicity


[10-Oct-19 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
and people aren't willing to act because cHiNa Is An UnTaPpEd MaRkEt


[10-Oct-19 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
this is why capitalism should be reviled, it runs on a faulty premise of infinite growth and will do anything and everything to maximize growth at all costs


[10-Oct-19 12:26 PM] Crow#5457
capitalism will run the world out of resources thousands of years before its time if used reasonably and then kill us all because we've removed everything that could've sustained us long enough to figure out how to get out to the rest of the galaxy


[10-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats not capitalism thats human greed


[10-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
capitalism is the epitome of human greed


[10-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
it is human greed made manifest and weaponized


[10-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
people claim that capitalism has some sort of inherent competitive streak, and in an ideal capitalist economy, that's true, but it's as much of a pipe dream as the ideal communist society


[10-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
we had the "ideal" capitalist society back in the late 1800s, it led to massive amounts of child labor, 7 hour a day work weeks, 14+ hours of work a day, for pennies on the dime in return


[10-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
and no competition because the big old conglomerates worked around each other and made deals to fix prices


[10-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
and that's the direction that we're headed again


[10-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
it's already like that in the ISP market in the US


[10-Oct-19 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

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The Battle of Blair Mountain was the largest labor uprising in United States history and one of the largest organized armed uprisings since the American Civil War. The conflict occurred in Logan County, West Virginia, as part of the Coal Wars, a series of early-20th-century l...
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[10-Oct-19 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that we nearly had a civil war over big companies treating people like slaves


[10-Oct-19 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
and it was the first case of aircraft being used against americans on american soil


[10-Oct-19 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
private mining companies hired pilots to drop chemical weapons on people striking


[10-Oct-19 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
> By August 29 battle was fully joined. Chafin's men, though outnumbered, had the advantage of higher positions and better weaponry. Private planes were hired to drop homemade bombs on the miners. A combination of gas and explosive bombs left over from World War I were dropped in several locations near the towns of Jeffery, Sharples and Blair. At least one did not explode and was recovered by the miners; it was used months later to great effect during treason and murder trials.


[10-Oct-19 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
"Chafin" was a local anti-union sheriff


[10-Oct-19 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
when I first found out about this, I was pissed that none of this was mentioned in the high school history classes I was forced to take


[10-Oct-19 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
it's like, why even bother learning about history if you leave out major events like this


[10-Oct-19 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
I've heard that primary and secondary school history courses across the west are pretty underdetailed and leaves out a lot of important information, the only exception I've heard of is how the holocaust is taught in germany


[10-Oct-19 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
as much as I enjoy STEM and want to have a career in the field, it's really sad what capitalism has done to non-STEM fields like history


[10-Oct-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
school history is mostly cliff notes at this point in america really only going through the founders, the civil war, the nazis, the civil rights movement fromt he perspective of MLK, and maybe nixon if your school feels like sharign those details. other than that you won;t get much


[10-Oct-19 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast that was my experience during my school life, i don;t know how further reduced it;s gotten


[10-Oct-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It's really damn hard to justify humanitarian sciences under capitalism. Unless it's shit like sociology, for obvious reasons.


[10-Oct-19 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Oct-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UFxDlfz6sE video of the direct speech

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[10-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Oct-19 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
please warren, take over


[10-Oct-19 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
be our democratic candidate


[10-Oct-19 02:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-mitch-mcconnell/index.html

 Trump is reportedly calling McConnell up to 3 times a day to rant and rave about ’loyal’ Republicans

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Trump warns GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell about disloyal Repub...
Even as the White House appears to settle on the legal tactics to stave off Democrats' impeachment demands, uncertainty and unease over Trump's messaging approach remains high among his Republican allies, who see the ever-growing inquiry consuming the White House.
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[10-Oct-19 02:53 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[10-Oct-19 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-08/trump-weighs-weakening-obama-rules-to-curb-corporate-inversions


[10-Oct-19 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
do it trump, I dare you


[10-Oct-19 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
let that recession come


[10-Oct-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
OPEN THE FLOOD GATES!


[10-Oct-19 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
"The government is currently funded through Nov. 21."


[10-Oct-19 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
uh oh


[10-Oct-19 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump may try to shut down the government unless impeachment is stopped


[10-Oct-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh he definitely will


[10-Oct-19 03:02 PM] Mikey#7286
Hey more stuff he wants to roll back just because it was Obama era


[10-Oct-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also wants to roll it back thinking it will stop a recession because he;s an idiot who doesn;t understand regulations


[10-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Also if he shuts the government down again


[10-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Mikey#7286
That basically seals him not being reelected


[10-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump doesn't understand anything about how the government works


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the question is, what will he do int he event of a loss


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
He's a celebrity businessman


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Throw a fit


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
And demand a recount


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he will not go quietly, he will try to make the vote invalid as hard as possible


[10-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Mikey#7286
And say he was cheated


[10-Oct-19 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably start trying to spitefully shut things down to punish the voters


[10-Oct-19 03:06 PM] Mikey#7286
He's making Bush Jr look amazing


[10-Oct-19 03:06 PM] Mikey#7286
That's no small feat


[10-Oct-19 03:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[10-Oct-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bush jr, compared to trump was a perfect president that;s how low trump has set the barr


[10-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[10-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Mikey#7286
"Barr"


[10-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Mikey#7286
And bush jr was fucking terrible


[10-Oct-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was, he was horrible


[10-Oct-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he loses the 2020 election, he'll probably demand voter IDs and registration to be released to him so he can hunt the traitorous voters down


[10-Oct-19 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also blaming the detained immigrants he;s keeping in his concentration camps


[10-Oct-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Oct-19 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-to-require-facial-id-for-internet-and-mobile-services-2019-10

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Chinese citizens will soon need to scan their face before they can...
China's roughly 854 million internet users will soon need to use facial identification in order to apply for new internet or mobile services.
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[10-Oct-19 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Mitch McConnell soon: "Look, I understand that the vast majority of Americans want this President removed, but elections have consequences."


[10-Oct-19 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Oct-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"and the consequence of this election was the death of america itself. You'll just have to live with this while i'm in russia for the rest of my life. It's notyou it;s me. I work for putin now. Please understand and don't put up a fight. It will only make me more moscow than i already am."


[10-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why you guys thinks that putin has big influence on Trump


[10-Oct-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because russia rigged the elections for him so Trump could do his dirty work


[10-Oct-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and russian oligarchs are invested heavily in republican politicians


[10-Oct-19 04:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And what exactly they gain from that ?


[10-Oct-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they destroy america from within, dismantle it;s democracy, and make it easier to conquer


[10-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
America destroying itself long before trup became a president


[10-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Easy to conquer by whom?Russians?


[10-Oct-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and putin made it happen faster becasue he played to those cracks int he foundation


[10-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
There is like 40 mil ppl who can serve in army tops


[10-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
`i'm in russia for the rest of my life.`


[10-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
you mean in London


[10-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
that's where all russian-affiliated people tend to flock :D


[10-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Nah, he can't lick putins crotch fur in london


[10-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I suppose that's a significant motivator.


[10-Oct-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The problem with the military is that at the moment russia and china are playing warfare by economic pressure and political pressure. The military isn;t really able to intervene in that


[10-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Economic pressure by Russia


[10-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:CadenceWheeze:


[10-Oct-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s all about booting america from the world stage and taking it;s place


[10-Oct-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no china is the one with the economic pressure, russia is playing the political pressure


[10-Oct-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another motivator for russia is Ukraine, the US is standing in the way of putin taking back Ukraine


[10-Oct-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is crumbling that road block


[10-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ukraine wont give up that easily against russian


[10-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Plus they got better gears from US


[10-Oct-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is breaking our ties with allies in favor of partnering with russia, china, and saudi arabia


[10-Oct-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now turkey


[10-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it isn't just about material and advisory aid in Ukraine, it's also symbolic and political. Russia _probably_ won't go full on offensive in the field, but that doesn't mean they won't ramp up infospace pressure and promote 'US realised their mistake about helping Ukraine' angle


[10-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
old Europe is notorious for being 'deeply concerned' and doing fuck all else


[10-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
so US withdrawing support would be pretty dire.


[10-Oct-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump would also probably sell russia the weapons it needed because putin sent oligarchs to  "visit" his hotels


[10-Oct-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and by visit i mean using it as a bribe dump, not threatening it with violence


[10-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
...what's worse, I can totes see our own pro-war anti-Zelensky morons believing this idea about a 'mistake realised'. Sometimes I wonder how many of the things they believe are their own anymore.


[10-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
Russia isn't known for subtle. Their style of propaganda is 'National Guard troopers are promised a patch of land and 2 slaves each for their enlistment'.


[10-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
but you never know.


[10-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
and yes, this specific news and others were broadcast on TV channels for realsies, back in '15-16


[10-Oct-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yeah, Russia goes all in on propoganda headlines


[10-Oct-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fearmongering is a horrifyingly viable propoganda strategy


[10-Oct-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
American propoganda tends to rely on making helpful things look like theivery and murder, such as socialised healthcare being turned into stealing money from "good americans" to pay for healthcare for those "dirty mexijews"


[10-Oct-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
While also making terrible things look patriotic such as holding refugee children and their parents in seperate concentration camps while working out how to privatise the shit out of it


[10-Oct-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The rich paying taxes? Well, you'll all soon be out of a job because they'll go bankrupt and shut down their businesses!


[10-Oct-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
> In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?


[10-Oct-19 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-10-09/trump-urged-top-aide-to-help-giuliani-client-facing-doj-charges


[10-Oct-19 05:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1yUbXKbHGg
activision blizzard declares to protect the pride of OUR COUNTRY (China) on Chinese twitter.

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[10-Oct-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also demanding photo ID to add to chinese databases for anyone looking to leave their services


[10-Oct-19 05:11 PM] Opponent#3498
Event: +2 social credit points for a Twitter comment supporting Blizzard!


[10-Oct-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Overwatch event unlocked: Trip to china! Friendly servicemen will meet you in the terminal!


[10-Oct-19 05:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't it easier to forget password and get done with it?


[10-Oct-19 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it is world of warcraft accounts, which charge a monthly fee, and if you cant remove your information they'll jsut keep charging it


[10-Oct-19 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) this would actually, unironically, be one of the best ways to get safely in and out of China. To be invited in public like this. Cause then they have a vested interest in you _returning_ happy and safe.


[10-Oct-19 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of like tourists in Soviet Union, especially ealier days.


[10-Oct-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blizzard has a few subscription fee games and now to leave them you need to provide state issued IDs to them


[10-Oct-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'll seehow long it takes until they get sued because that's actually very illegal


[10-Oct-19 05:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Actually


[10-Oct-19 05:24 PM] Mikey#7286
Someone told me that account deletion has always been like that


[10-Oct-19 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think that's right.


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I just deleted my 'preferred payment method' and it's fine?


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure that;s illegal in most countries


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Mikey#7286
They said they had to renew their state Id to get their account back


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, if i;m wrong, i;m wrong


[10-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
now, deleting or recovering an account is much more involved. Blizzard historically had an extremely anal system in place about it.


[10-Oct-19 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I used to play on US servers with friends. I had to input a fake adress, name, everything. As well as random question and answer. Which I promtly forgot.


[10-Oct-19 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
well, when time came and I forgot the password as well, it turned out that to make a new password, I had to 'confirm the account was mine'. That was fine, I remembered the details I used.


[10-Oct-19 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
but when I tried to renew the secret question, it turned out I had to provide a photo with me holding my government issue ID or something.


[10-Oct-19 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
that was like 2015 or so


[10-Oct-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds super sketchy...


[10-Oct-19 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how has blizzard not been called out on this before?


[10-Oct-19 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody cared, I guess.


[10-Oct-19 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm


[10-Oct-19 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
do note that this only concerned changing secret question and answer. Apparently Blizz considered it the most secure bit of info, far in excess of passwords or anything else. Kind of odd on the practical level.


[10-Oct-19 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
and, not many people would try to do this in the first place, so the issue wasn't as readily apparent.


[10-Oct-19 05:33 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
An update on the situation with blizzard


[10-Oct-19 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
AND, I like to think it had some benefits to it, reducing account theft (likely reason it was done in the first place), a relic from before physical keys and all the other multi-stage authorisation stuff.


[10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Shutting down your account now requires you to send a photo copy of your ID IN THE STARCRAFT2REPLAY format


[10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This reminds me of a browser mmorpg with extreme account duplication... if it finds your account and someone's account on same ip address, they will ask for STATE ID.


[10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
~~i just find that funny~~


[10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
that feels pretty fake spooky


[10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
but I'm not gonna try on the off-chance it is :D


[10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1182114683517427712?s=21

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This is not okay. @Blizzard_Ent is forcing protesting users to send In copies of their government ID to delete their account. Never seen anything like this before. There’s no way in hell I’m giving them my ID. #HongKongProtest
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[10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
South Korea had this for ages to keep market truly local.


[10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
~~sure you can send in a png, but you should recreate your ID in the SC2REPLAY format just for fun~~


[10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if this is a recent development.


[10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
They literally just added it


[10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
okay. Then it's bs.


[10-Oct-19 05:37 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
They took down the account shut down page and replaced it with this


[10-Oct-19 05:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do they want SSN too?


[10-Oct-19 05:37 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Clicking the "change verification method" button just puts you back on that page


[10-Oct-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, people started mass leaving their blizzard accounts to protest theirdecision against a hearthstone player for supporting hong kong


[10-Oct-19 05:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We want all their names!


[10-Oct-19 05:38 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
WE WANT THEIR NAMES FOR BLACK MAIL


[10-Oct-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a few hours blizzard merely locked the verification pages, and thent he photo id thing came out


[10-Oct-19 05:38 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
CUZ WE'RE ACTBLIZZ


[10-Oct-19 05:39 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Activision Blizzard deserves to be investigated by the CIA


[10-Oct-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they actually should be investigated, this is not a legal move


[10-Oct-19 05:39 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Yeah


[10-Oct-19 05:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Leave rate does not look good on their KPIs, eh?


[10-Oct-19 05:40 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
I'm currently talking with someone on the WoW BfA team who quit yesterday


[10-Oct-19 05:40 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Everyone's pissed off


[10-Oct-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blizzcon is going to be chaos this year


[10-Oct-19 05:40 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Oh yeah


[10-Oct-19 05:41 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
We will have the lowest attendence rate in blizzcon history for good reason


[10-Oct-19 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blizzard chose it;s loyalty and then tried to have their cake and eat it too


[10-Oct-19 05:41 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Ye


[10-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds interesting. .. Choose your side!


[10-Oct-19 05:42 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
I genuinely hope Activision is forced to break away from Blizzard


[10-Oct-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or absorb it completely and defund their services


[10-Oct-19 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like EA did to maxis


[10-Oct-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/dfsrt3/activision_ceo_bobby_kotick_linked_to_jeffrey/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share and now there;s this!

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Activision CEO Bobby Kotick linked to Jeffrey Epstein
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[10-Oct-19 05:45 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
I'm not surprised


[10-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Dw;omd summary please?


[10-Oct-19 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dw;omd?


[10-Oct-19 05:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Didn't Watch; On Metered Data


[10-Oct-19 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[10-Oct-19 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the CEO of acctivision has been linked to jeffrey epstein's whole prostitution deal


[10-Oct-19 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. Found a report that it's old news and NOW the deletion is working as intended (as in, working).


[10-Oct-19 05:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ok, cool, thanks


[10-Oct-19 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
the requests are processed manually for obvious reasons and the services got swamped


[10-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume the photo ID thing was not to collect the info on dissenters, but to triage the situation. Those who would REALLY need to go RIGHT THE FECK NOW could speed up the verification request.


[10-Oct-19 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest would have to wait a couple hours.


[10-Oct-19 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
remember, deletion requests take up to a full month to process according to the article on Blizz Support.


[10-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
the photo ID is likely an emergency measure.


[10-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
there's also the fact that if there ever was a time to 'just a prank bro, chill' someone, by signing up their 15-year-old account for deletion, it would absolutely be now. As well as remove any stolen accounts.


[10-Oct-19 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c9125e9ccd894965bbf2860100366779

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2 Florida men tied to Giuliani arrested on campaign charges
WASHINGTON (AP) — Two Florida businessmen tied to President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani have been arrested on campaign finance violations resulting from a $325,000 donation to a...
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[10-Oct-19 06:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not surprised


[10-Oct-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking really? it was a huge story


[10-Oct-19 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
The Tillerson/Kelly thing


[10-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not surprised, but surprised you think it means anything.


[10-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sell-turkey-f-35-jets-for-no-syria-invasion-2019-10

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Trump reportedly offered to sell F-35 jets to Turkey in exchange f...
President Donald Trump offered "a really good package" to try to prevent an invasion, a senior US official told The Washington Post.
https://image.businessinsider.com/59603158d9fccd1c008b4edf?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/631732378603356180/Sa3f8ZiPr8IIeYZm.mp4

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[10-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's copyright striking this video everywhere


[10-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
which is a shame


[10-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
free publicity with a positive message


[10-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
even if she didn't mean it


[10-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look a little closer


[10-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm clearly missing something :/ Some context, probably.


[10-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
listened to it the first time, watched the second, still don't get it.


[10-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The background


[10-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at the background


[10-Oct-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
friends with people who are furries...


[10-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
background probably _borrowed_ from somewhere. But that's not uncommon. Probably something related to Syria, because everything is nowadays.


[10-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe there's a reason for it being there, it's just the final 1.5min of the speech. No telling what she was talking about before.


[10-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's pictures from the Iraq war that someone edited into the background


[10-Oct-19 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
edited? Looks like the images run on the screen behind her.


[10-Oct-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and she didn't notice?


[10-Oct-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
now that's how you do quality pranks.


[10-Oct-19 06:58 PM] Opponent#3498
or if this video IS edited, what was there originally?


[10-Oct-19 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a blue screen


[10-Oct-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well, that's too easy then. She set herself up.


[10-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or just the same sort of stuff game streamers use to replace their home background; software figures out what in the picture is a person and "greenscreens" the rest


[10-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
usually done by some form of physical 'greenscreen', green or otherwise.


[10-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
you can do without, but it's much more expensive.


[10-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is that new skype feature where it blurs out background, but the person?


[10-Oct-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
skype has new features?


[10-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or maybe ms teams


[10-Oct-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent used it


[10-Oct-19 07:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Getting confused for lack of camera use, I even taped it over.


[10-Oct-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tape over all my built on cameras on laptops i get


[10-Oct-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would imagine the feature is just called blur soemthing though


[10-Oct-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/LtPM7zkXlW8

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[10-Oct-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Rule 34 document requests


[10-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/465211-fans-say-free-hong-kong-signs-confiscated-at-nba-game

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Fans say 'Free Hong Kong' signs confiscated at NBA game
NBA fans holding posters that read "Free Hong Kong" and "Google: Uyghurs" say they were confiscated before the Washington Wizard's Wednesday night preseason game against the Guangzhou Loong Lions.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/wizards_gettyimages-101817.jpg


[10-Oct-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Rule 34 is fun

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[10-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
`"The only thing better than doing the right thing is having a paper trail of doing the right thing."`


[10-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
I think I need to put this on my wall.


[10-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's beautiful.


[10-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
'"the building security staff removed signs tonight in accordance with Capital One Arena's long-standing Signs, Banners, Posters, and Flag Policy." '


[10-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Print it on shirts


[10-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
come wearing the shirts


[10-Oct-19 07:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1182348822040764418

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https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1182348822040764418
Sleepy Joe can't defend himself so he resorts to threatening the media!

"Joe Biden is not capable as a candidate at this point to make the case himself...if they were confident and had a nimble candidate he would be out there taking care of this and taking it head on hims...
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[10-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What, he's only fighting against fake news right


[10-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465235-amid-questions-of-legality-on-delaying-ukraine-aid-white-house#

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Amid questions of legality on delaying Ukraine aid, White House sh...
The White House earlier this year authorized a politically appointed official to withhold military aid meant for Ukraine after budget staff members questioned the legality of delaying the congressionally approved funds,
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[10-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[10-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
`Print it on shirts
come wearing the shirts`


[10-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
people do this for publicity. They want to get removed and REEE with proof.


[10-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, 'proof', this is like super low-hanging fruit.


[10-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't care to ACTUALLY protest or make a stance.


[10-Oct-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
what


[10-Oct-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
unless it's mainstream (and it's not) getting protest shirts is quite a good way to show support for a cause and it's unlikely that you aren't sincere about it


[10-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
most people are not going to go the trouble of getting a FREE HK shirt, buying tickets to an NBA game, and showing up wearing the shirt if they don't think it will make a difference


[10-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Except that they didn't do it.


[10-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
and it's not stupidity. The goal of bringing posters specifically was to get removed.


[10-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of wearing the shirts is simple


[10-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NBA will still remove you


[10-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you won't actually be violating their policy


[10-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
exactly.


[10-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
instead of breaking the long-standing rules and try and make it political (whether or not it is)


[10-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
this makes the action by the NBA more egregious so that it invokes an even higher response.


[10-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
the shirts could also let NBA claim plasible deniability if they wanted to go for the neutral angle.


[10-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very unlikely.


[10-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NBA not dealing with the shirts gets them yelled at by China


[10-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which in turn leads to either visible communications, or the NBA escalating things


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
still. It's an option. The posters 100% force a response.


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Winnie the Pooh shirts


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
both more visible and directly counter to the rules.


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"What, I just like the movie"


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, that'd be more clever too.


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to make things clearer to people on the fence.


[10-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
As long as the NBA can hide behind neutral-looking rules, many will not see this as a problem.


[10-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
that too.


[10-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
removing the shirts would be 100% political.


[10-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/10/sport/nba-cnn-china-basketball-shut-down-spt-intl/index.html

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CNN anchor shut down for asking question about the NBA's standoff ...
CNN anchor Christina Macfarlane was quickly shut down by the Houston Rockets' media officer as she tried to ask a question about the NBA's ongoing standoff with China.
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[10-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they're certainly not allowed to say anything. Even if it's not explicitly stated, it'd be a career suicide.


[10-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I really can't make up my mind about this whole thing, still. It stinks and chinese are to blame, but what would one do about it? Protest? Against what? The companies specifically? They're a symptom, not a cause. At most they go under, and everyone else takes notice and tightens the policies.


[10-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
so what else then? I got no clue.


[10-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
boycotting the goods sounds nice but that's a non-starter cause it requires a prolonged, massed effect, from people actively choosing to do so and not passively reeing on reddit


[10-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
and even then it's drop in the ocean


[10-Oct-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is a tough one with sports leagues


[10-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
much the same applies to Blizzard and the rest, the core issue is similar.


[10-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, here it's worse.


[10-Oct-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Sports leagues also have bigger bases than people who pay attention to politics, so a boycott won;t really do much


[10-Oct-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/v8corvgttpr31.gif

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[10-Oct-19 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mr President I don't feel so good


[10-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
A note on missionaries https://twitter.com/aredpandaplush/status/1181768623544647680

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https://twitter.com/aredpandaplush/status/1181768623544647680
Well this is a very useful thought I have not seen articulated this clearly before
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[10-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/465258-turkeys-president-threatens-to-flood-europe-with-refugees-if-it

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Erdogan threatens to release 3.6 million refugees into Europe if i...
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday said that if Europe describes Turkey's current military operation against Kurdish forces in Syria as an "occupation," then he will release nearly 4 million refugees into the contine
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/erdoganrecep11062018.jpg


[10-Oct-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Erdogan literally trying to entice white supremacist fears


[10-Oct-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
fuck him


[10-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
yep.


[10-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
evidently overt blackmail is the new global politics strategy


[10-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, no way anyone in EU finds balls to respond.


[10-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Balls / cares to give him attention


[10-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Half the EU wouldn't be able to point out Turkey on a map


[10-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah that too


[10-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/465254-conservatives-rail-against-braves-for-reducing-tomahawk-chop

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Conservatives rail against Braves for reducing 'tomahawk chop' aft...
Georgia conservatives tore into the Atlanta Braves on Wednesday for making game-day changes revolving around the “tomahawk chop” chant after Ryan Helsley, a pitcher for the St.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/tomahawkchop_braves_101019.jpg


[10-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that 13-1 loss is totally because of no foam tomahawks


[10-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say that some conservatives suffer from tiny-dick syndrome so bad they have a vagina, but that's unnecessarily misogynistic


[10-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow!

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[10-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, they wear this face well.


[10-Oct-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://babylonbee.com/news/nba-requiring-players-to-stand-for-chinese-national-anthem

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NBA Now Requiring All Players To Stand For Chinese National Anthem
NEW YORK, NY—In an effort to salvage its relationship with China, the NBA is now requiring all players to stand for the Chinese national anthem at the beginning of every game.The official song of the People's Republic of China, "March of the Volunteers," will be played at t...
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[10-Oct-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/3lw29u2nmor31.jpg

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[10-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/1181227194619715584

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David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™ (@KagroX)
https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/1181227194619715584
Wanna see something interesting? This is the photo of Trump and Giuliani with Uklownian-American scammers Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman that the Miami Herald ran last week to illustrate their backgrounder on them.
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[10-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I mean, you are at *Their* country, gotta show some respect during national anthem, if you're 100% against the country than shouldn't have gone there in the first place... I know it's controversy not bash China for everything but still...


[10-Oct-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's also a satire article


[10-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Sorry didn't really read it just went through the title


[10-Oct-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Babylon Bee and Hard Times are satire sites


[10-Oct-19 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
You ate the onion


[10-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Living and learning


[10-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sekulow is trying to say Trump or his campaign weren't aware of the violations
We have pictures, and Rudy was having lunch with them before they were trying to flee the country


[10-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
a satire article going AGAINST public outrage?


[10-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[10-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
suddenly I gained a lot of respect for them.


[10-Oct-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/jeff-kaplan-calmly-explains-why-its-important-to-balance-human-rights-with-chinese-money/

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[10-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I love this guy. He looks like a sterеotypical programmer aka just about the worst person to let out of a closet.

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[10-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
considering his post, it's guaranteed to be a cultivated image rather than natural, yet it's oddly endearing.


[10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
also, instant disappointment that it's satire and not for real. I kind of hoped for an official comment by now.


[10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/china/465283-trump-adviser-claims-china-gave-him-info-on-hunter-biden

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Trump adviser claims China gave him info on Hunter Biden
An informal White House adviser on China has reportedly said that he got information on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's son Hunter Biden during a trip to Beijing.
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[10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
`An informal White House adviser on China has reportedly said`


[10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
so hearsay of a hearsay by essentially a nobody.


[10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
well, they tried.


[10-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the donkey's mouth is silent on what it ate, its droppings will tell the story.


[10-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“I got a quite a bit of background on Hunter Biden from the Chinese,” Michael Pillsbury told the Financial Times in an email on Wednesday. The newspaper reported he later denied the email exchange occurred."


[10-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, hearsay doesn't speak to strength of evidence


[10-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just means someone didn't say it under oath


[10-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Recordings are hearsay too, they can be fabricated.


[10-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The important thing is the ability to cross-examine someone under oath, to build a series of answers from them and others leading to the truth


[10-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Demanding this for any proof of things that happened however is absurd.


[10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, many exceptions.


[10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Legal standards are meant as a final chekk before people get dragged off to jail.


[10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not as the first time you can say someone did something bad.


[10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also this isn't a hearsay of a hearsay


[10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least, it shouldn't be seen as such.


[10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is an admission by a party


[10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally when the news reports on a story, they aren't just making shit up or completely misconstruing facts


[10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
these include direct quotes from the guy


[10-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calling this "hearsay of [what he said]" is disingenuous.


[10-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if technically true.


[10-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
What really is hearsay that matters is the idea that he was given info on Biden.


[10-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
As that is the factual claim in his out-of-court statement.


[10-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get him in court under oath to say it and bam


[10-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
He of course is not under oath, so he suddenly retracted his statement.


[10-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the complete retraction itself here is suspicios, and speaks to the veracity of it.


[10-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy clearly realized he screwed up, and that since he's not under oath, he can just change his tune.


[10-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's a bit of a fuckup


[10-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it costs him nothing to make a statement or retract it


[10-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Opponent#3498
again, not under oath, that's the only thing anyone seems to care about now


[10-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
at least if you're a government official


[10-Oct-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, keep in mind


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lewandowski testified before congress


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
that nobody should expect him to be honest unless he is under oath.


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are the sorts of people we are dealing with.


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
You HAV TO get them under oath


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
their entire lives are based on constantly lying.


[10-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
and when you try, they say 'I refuse' :3


[10-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav to make lying a crime...or they'll do it with abandon.


[10-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and it's back to square one.


[10-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even then, they'll still lie


[10-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
but at least then you can lokk them the fukk up where they belong.


[10-Oct-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
here's a question, you likely know more about it than me. What did Mueller investigation actually uncover, if anything?


[10-Oct-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Massive evidence of obstruction of justice.


[10-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
It investigated Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 United States presidential election, allegations of conspiracy or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russia, and allegations of obstruction of justice


[10-Oct-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The official report was allowed to either rule that Trump did not commit obstruction of justice, or to not rule that Trump did not commit obstruction of justice.


[10-Oct-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It took the latter option.


[10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The report did not turn up much evidence of conspiracy by the Trump campaign itself, it found Russia trying to help them, but not them actively seeking the help.


[10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
It found evidence of Russian efforts to interfere, it found evidence of criminal conspiracy between Trump campaign staffers and Russia, and was obstructed so heavily that Mueller wrote snide remarks about it in the report


[10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is plenty of circumstantial evidence pointing to such, but the obstruction, put simply, worked.


[10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
But it did not accuse anyone of a crime because Mueller was not able to get WH staff in court


[10-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note: The Attorney General claimed that obstruction of justice can only be charged if you are already found guilty of the underlying crime.


[10-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is...retarded in every possible way.


[10-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
If used as precedent, it would mean that all you need to do is steal all the evidence against you, and you aren't guilty of anything.


[10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, on top of that, Barr has also claimed that obstruction of justice and conspiracy law doesn't apply to the president


[10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
his claim is that no law applies to the president unless it includes a clause saying it does


[10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Altogether, Attorney General Barr is making up bullshit with the clear intention to make the president be above the law, preempting any actual possible ability to charge him with a crime.


[10-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[10-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
well, he knows what he's doing.


[10-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, current DOJ policy says the president cannot be indicted.


[10-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
This effectively means there is no mechanism other than impeachment to deal with a criminal president.


[10-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the DOJ is also claiming that the House can't do what it's doing on impeachment


[10-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many Republicans in congress agree with such...despite saying the opposite when they were voting on Clinton's impeachment.


[10-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
obviously.


[10-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a general trend, enforcing the law only up until there's a threat it will be used against you.


[10-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This sentiment of "it's okay when Republicans do it" even extends to the Supreme Court


[10-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
which sought to curtail agency actions done under Obama


[10-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
at least in Soviet Russia people knew they're guaranteed to be tried and shot by the same laws they helped enforce. Sooner or later.


[10-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but shows no signs of going after those done by Trump.


[10-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh there is one funny bit in here


[10-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the House's subpeonaing would normally be done by votes of the committee involved


[10-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut Republicans under Obama changed the rules so any committee member could do it themselves


[10-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
in order to make sure they could constantly hamper the Obama administration whenever it did anything, without being held bakk


[10-Oct-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
So now that the House is under Democratic control, facing Trump


[10-Oct-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
subpeonas can fly like crazy


[10-Oct-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans' cry for greater transparency as a facade to obstruct is now coming bakk to bite them in the ass.


[10-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if they lose the Senate, then a Democratic majority will be able to do pretty much anything it wants, filibuster free, cause they killed the filibuster under Obama.


[10-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and killed the last remnants of it with SCOTUS appointment under Trump)


[10-Oct-19 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[10-Oct-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Oct-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Machine learning


[11-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why do both of these guys look like the UV unwrapped texture of a video game character https://am21.akamaized.net/lc/cnt/uploads/2019/10/igor-fruman-lev-parnas-mugshots.jpg

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[11-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[11-Oct-19 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah lol


[11-Oct-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/10/rick-perry-hit-with-subpoena-in-trump-impeachment-probe.html

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Energy Secretary Rick Perry hit with subpoena in Trump impeachment...
House Democrats issued a subpoena to Energy Secretary Rick Perry on Thursday, the latest salvo in the party's impeachment probe into whether President Donald Trump abused his power through his interactions with the leadership of Ukraine.
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[11-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/10/turkey-attacks-kurds-who-battled-isis-us-forces-just-days-ago/3934503002/

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U.S. and Kurdish soldiers: Side by side just days ago, battling IS...
Trump's abandonment of Kurdish allies fighting ISIS shocked members of the U.S. military and left it scrambling to protect American forces in Syria.
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[11-Oct-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've been hearing some right-wingers claim that there really weren't all that many US troops in the area to begin with and this attack would've happened anyway


[11-Oct-19 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm mashing X as hard as I can


[11-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/10/20906994/elizabeth-warren-pete-buttigieg-lgbtq-policy

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LGBTQ rights hang in the balance at the Supreme Court. Elizabeth W...
The plans include major anti-discrimination legislation but not a promise to decriminalize sex work.
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[11-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
> The detailed, 12-page plan includes the creation of a new program to fight violence against transgender women of color; a nationwide ban on conversion therapy; and public manufacture of PrEP, a medication that dramatically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. It also includes support for legislation like the Equality Act, a bill that would ban discrimination against LGBTQ people in the workplace and elsewhere.


[11-Oct-19 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-republicans-senate-romney-cnn-1464305

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Trump is "very, very nervous" that Senate Republicans will back im...
The president is facing impeachment by the House over the Ukraine-Biden affair and some GOP senators are speaking out.
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[11-Oct-19 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/donald-trump-tax-returns-lawsuit (block cookies and first-party scripts)

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Trump: My Crimes Can’t Be Investigated While I’m President
The president’s latest attempt to keep his tax returns hidden is a novel one.
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[11-Oct-19 02:26 AM] illumnious#7938
deal with the devil


[11-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[11-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
how do people still see anything in this pathetic waste of human biomass


[11-Oct-19 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So long as he's around the liberals aren't destroying America™, it seems


[11-Oct-19 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i need a status update, how many libtards have been owned since january 1st, 2017


[11-Oct-19 02:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
honk


[11-Oct-19 02:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:HONK:


[11-Oct-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:honk:


[11-Oct-19 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:no_u:


[11-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[11-Oct-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:reppy:


[11-Oct-19 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:spikegag:


[11-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/world/middleeast/trump-kurds-normandy.html

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Trump Says the Kurds ‘Didn’t Help’ at Normandy. Here’s the...
Kurds may not have been present at the D-Day landings, but there is evidence some fought for the Allies during World War II.
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[11-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> It is unclear whether any Kurds were at the Normandy landings, but there is evidence that some of them fought on the side of the Allied forces during World War II.


[11-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Some of the Kurds who had been pushed out of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey landed in the Soviet Union, said Mutlu Civiroglu, a Kurdish affairs analyst in Washington. So when World War II began, many fought with the Soviets on the side of the Allies. But they were difficult to track because they did not fight under a Kurdish flag.


[11-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Evidence of this has survived in folk songs and books that pay tribute to Kurds who fought in World War II, Mr. Civiroglu said. He also noted that Samand Aliyevich Siabandov — a member of the Yazidis, a Kurdish-speaking religious minority — was a well-known Soviet fighter who was lauded in the English-language Russian newspaper Moscow News in 1946.


[11-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
you know how the conservatives would spin this


[11-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
calling the kurds "communist sympathizers"


[11-Oct-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine the look on the Rs faces when they hear this


[11-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
I still haven't found a single person who defends trump's decision, even among the republicans


[11-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
they're either against it or not saying anything


[11-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-lashes-out-over-fox-news-poll-shows-majority-support-n1064556

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Trump lashes out over Fox News poll that shows majority support hi...
"Whoever their Pollster is, they suck," the president tweeted.
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[11-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
I love that photo


[11-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
it makes him look like a pouty little child who was told he couldn't have dessert for being bad


[11-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump expressed his displeasure Thursday with a Fox News poll that found a majority of registered voters believe he should be impeached — a record high in the survey.


[11-Oct-19 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what is *with* the color in his hair here


[11-Oct-19 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's like they ran out of blond for the weave so they just went with light brown


[11-Oct-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
My impeachment ratings are the highest ever, higher than any other president in history, really. Many people are saying it.

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[11-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.foxnews.com/world/ecuadorian-anti-government-protesters-show-off-captive-police-officers

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Ecuadorian anti-government protesters show off captive police officers
Anti-government proters in Ecuador's capital paraded captive police officers Thursday, more than a week after the country plunged into deadly unrest over fuel price hikes and other austerity measures.
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[11-Oct-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I have the best impeachment ratings. People are always telling me, and this is true, they’ve never seen impeachment ratings so big. Never seen it. The biggest impeachment ratings ever.


[11-Oct-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
You know something, I've got the best -- I knew this one guy, Jeffrey, tremndous guy, and when I say that -- when I get impeached, it's going to be the biggest and best impeachment you've ever seen, believe me.


[11-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/ecuador-thousands-march-anti-government-protests-intensify-n1064561

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In Ecuador, thousands march in anti-government protests intensify
The protests have intensified after a week of unrest sparked by fuel price hikes, and protesters included students, labor union members and indigenous groups.
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[11-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
> Protesters included youths who burned tires and confronted security forces, labor union members and indigenous people who mobilized and marched, for the most part peacefully.


[11-Oct-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf


[11-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/10/thanks-to-trump-std-rates-hit-a-record-high/

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Thanks to Trump, STD rates hit a record high
Trump’s pro-life policies and attacks on reproductive health care are having repercussions beyond the GOP's intent
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[11-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr trump fucked america so hard that STDs had a big jump

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[11-Oct-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
bad news for DC republicans


[11-Oct-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
they might get aids next time they go to the RNC


[11-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
> While the CDC did not explicitly state it, STI testing is becoming harder to come by for vulnerable populations because free test clinics — including some Planned Parenthood clinics — are being defunded by Trump administration policies. Ironically, the Trump administration's pro-life policies have put newborn babies at a higher risk for death. Indeed, the Trump administration’s policy decision to cut off Title X funding to health care centers that provide abortion care is resulting in the closing of clinics that don’t offer abortion services, but do offer STD testing.


[11-Oct-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/10/10/we-have-no-idea-who-is-paying-rudy-giuliani/


[11-Oct-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
"maybe he's working pro bozo"


[11-Oct-19 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Yeah, I've been half following it on another Discord from an Ecuadorian/the general south American community there. They're already having fun making fun of the French for not being as lit as South Americans these days. But Latino Fire is so hot that one of the people on the server said passingly one of their mayors was once burned at the stake a some years ago.


[11-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/465299-barr-met-privately-with-murdoch-amid-impeachment-scrutiny-report#

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[11-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, remember when Eric Holder met with CNN's CEO


[11-Oct-19 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, I'm having a hard time remembering an AG that got around as much as this guy does


[11-Oct-19 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not typically a job that calls for international flights and personal house calls


[11-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465331-ex-top-trump-russia-aide-to-testify-about-shadow-policy-on-ukraine

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Ex-top Trump Russia aide to testify about 'shadow policy' on Ukrai...
President Trump's former top assistant working on European and Russian issues will testify to Congress that Trump's top lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his associates set up a shadow foreign policy for the Trump administration relating to Ukraine
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_20191009getty.jpg


[11-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy really is fucking up.


[11-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHkd4t8or9w

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[11-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
so I showed this video to my mom today, she was visibly disturbed by how retarded trump sounded


[11-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The crakks had to form eventually.


[11-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
it's mainly because she's been highly supportive of the kurds since she first learned about them


[11-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
she seemed to somehow suppress the memory whe talking about impeachment though, she thinks that there's absolutely no reason trump should be impeached and calls the inquiry illegal because no vote was ever taken


[11-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Kurds were there when the British invaded our airports tho


[11-Oct-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Speaking of Kurds


[11-Oct-19 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-iran/iran-says-turkish-military-must-immediately-end-attacks-in-syria-and-withdraw-idUSKBN1WP1DP

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Iran says Turkish military must immediately end attacks in Syria a...
Iran's foreign ministry called on Turkey on Thursday to immediately halt it...
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[11-Oct-19 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Iran manages to prevent a catastrophe in NE Syria, it'd be a major diplomatic achievement for them


[11-Oct-19 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also another embarassment to the US


[11-Oct-19 03:42 AM] ononim#8141
*sigh* I guess it's critical support for Islamic Republic time again


[11-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure iran would steamroll turkey


[11-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, Israel would come in and steamroll Iran


[11-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
With some Saudi help


[11-Oct-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How much y'all wanna bet the Saudis are secretly funding Erdogan and the jihadists


[11-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very little


[11-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saudi Arabia and Iran are the two biggest powers in the region, and are in a cold war


[11-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Syria is the major front where they conduct their proxy war


[11-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran wants to get the jihadis in Syria to take over so it can start beating up the Saudis directly


[11-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the Saudis devote most of their attention to bombing random Iranian plants in Yemen


[11-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Syria is a big fukking mess.


[11-Oct-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The FSA, ISIS, and other jihadists are Sunni though, and Iran is Shia.


[11-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, Turkey just wants to exploit that for territory since they're part of NATO and thus unscratchable.


[11-Oct-19 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Iran's barking at Turkey and the FSA, it must mean there is some conflict


[11-Oct-19 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*oil


[11-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since you didn't specify what word to replace, I'll use both "Sunni" and "Shia"


[11-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the conflict is really about.


[11-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel isn't blowing up Iranian drones in Syria because of religious disagreements.


[11-Oct-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, at the very least, Russia is quite interested in the oil in the region


[11-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia wants Syria to distribute oil, Iran wants it to secure oil, Israel just doesn't want anyone getting control.


[11-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Saudis want fewer competitors for oil


[11-Oct-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, but religious conflict underpins a lot of the ideological drive behind many modern middle eastern conflicts, even if it's not the be-all end-all


[11-Oct-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also


[11-Oct-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Iran supports Assad, who's more or less allied or neutral to the Syrian Kurds


[11-Oct-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We must keep in mind that the Middle East conflict zone is a puzzle mash of competing alliances


[11-Oct-19 03:49 AM] ononim#8141
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[11-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
here's something hillarious. When Trump was running and was elected, I was like, welp, here goes the thin veil of propriety characteristic to the Western politics. US isn't Ukraine, we can afford to have any monkey climbing on stage and spewing hot garbage into the mic. US doing the same was jarring. 

Then I understood. His was the new, loud and brash brand of populism. He blusters and raves into the mic, people love him for what he represents - this emotional feelsgood MAGA thing. He only plays the idiot on camera, he's surrounded by competent people. This is the new face of US.

Then time passed. I was like, welllll it might BE the new face of US, but perhaps not quite as I expected. He's clearly getting more unhinged, and there doesn't seem to be a good reason for him to be allowed to keep doing what he's doing. This naturally means that people in power want him where he is, doing what he's doing. He is a distraction, a scapegoat, on whom people will be later able to pin all the bad things that happened in the meantime, related to him in any way or not. 

And now... Now we're back full circle.The one thing that defined US in public opinion (besides democracy on the tips of missiles and bombs), the reverence for the Law, is basicly gone. The government is unresponsive, entirely embroiled in it's own inner struggle and ignores the outside world. In Ukraine, this situation would be understandable. In US, the supposed capital of the world? Well. Interesting times we live in.


[11-Oct-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
> He only plays the idiot on camera, he's surrounded by competent people.


[11-Oct-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you remember Bush?


[11-Oct-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Junior


[11-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Back then I wasn't really interested in international things too much, so mostly the fact that he looked and sounded like shit. It was hard to imagine this guy with no charisma whatsoever won the presidency on his own (which to me, again, naturally meant he's simply a front for people in power, or that his offer to the people was so good his personality was irrelevant. No context, I couldn't really judge.)


[11-Oct-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
what about his father


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doctor vs. Candyman


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
every Republican administration since... as far back as I can remember, actually, has been _insanely_ corrupt


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
they've just been varying degrees of good at hiding it


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
there are no competent people behind the scenes


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
there never have been


[11-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because LBJ passed civil rights


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prior to that, conservatives were content


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Opponent#3498
his father was before my time I'm pretty sure.


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then federal troops were in the south suppressing racist local gov't


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the incident a week ago where a rat fell from the white house ceiling was a bit of surprisingly ironic symbolism


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservatives tried to oust LBJ


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their primary challenge failed


[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] ononim#8141
https://amare-habeo.tumblr.com/post/187864728073/damir-muratov-russian-born-1967-united-states

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[11-Oct-19 04:35 AM] ononim#8141
>when rebloging a paining may lend you a few years in prison for "advocating for separatism" if the state and its enforcers are bothered by you enough


[11-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the Republicans said "hey we could take advantage of this"


[11-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus Nixon came


[11-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
To not mince words


[11-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are horrible.


[11-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire idea is to return to feudalism


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
US conservatism in 2019 is fascism thinly veiled by the guise of "economic responsibility"


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in the US, they hav slavery as a sort of nearer-to-present feudalism


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South just is not okay


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't speak for the world, but I imagine it's more or less the same in other countries


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many there just want slavery bakk, no matter what bullshit they put forth.


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
there may be no guise, it may just be outright fascism


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Western conservatism is pretty much the same


[11-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't demand slavery specifically, but it's all similar stuff


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
British conservatism takes the form of trying to put down people who would "take advantage of our overseas territory to gain citizenship"


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are brown people


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want equal stuff


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
gotta prevent that.


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
oh sorry, veiled both by "economic responsibility" and "a return to tradition"


[11-Oct-19 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
tradition meaning only rich white men have rights


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich white religious men.


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, in France


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were three votes


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The nobles, the clergy, and the people


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 > 1


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobles vote to tax the shit out of the farmers


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clerly vote the same


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
People vote against


[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
WELP DEMOCRACY IN ACTION

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[11-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So 2% of the population controlled all legislation


[11-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh what's that, a guy's head on a pike? How barbaric...oh...


[11-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything


[11-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
the clergy were worse than the nobles


[11-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
they basically controlled the nobles and had more power


[11-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and were a smaller percent of the population


[11-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not to be underestimated how much of the French Revolution was about throwing organized religion off the fukking controls of the country


[11-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
via the necessary amount of force: VERY LETHAL FORCE


[11-Oct-19 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
time to make some heads roll


[11-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism was basically just monarchists working off domino theory spreading their ideas far and wide


[11-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, the UK was starving Ireland on purpose


[11-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
To this day, there are people who respond with calls to hav schools teach rational thought with "but in the French Revolution..."


[11-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only was the Civil War about slavery, it was about the slavocratic class convincing poor Southerners that "totally you'll be like us one day, now go kill Yankees"


[11-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I think this is pretty much universal to human politics.


[11-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people lakk the resources to be politically savvy.


[11-Oct-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
people are too complacent to not let assholes take power over them


[11-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ruling class can giv them a tiny promise of a sliver of luxury to make them do shit for them.


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
the king has all the wealth


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbhgEQv5KwU

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[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you turn on your friends, you can get some of it


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] ononim#8141
for fuck sake discord


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you team up with them instead to try to be democratic, then your buddy turns on you to get some of it


[11-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our inherent selfishness makes us easily manipulated by people with more resources.


[11-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a lot of work, we can build a democracy, but at the end of the day someone will amass wealth and corrupt it.


[11-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You NEED a system in place to stop amassing of wealth.


[11-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I was watching this Netflix documentary about a Chinese company that comes in and buys a Rust Belt factory


[11-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something that proactively, not reactively, takes out billionnaires.


[11-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's kinda funny when you compare how the American workers are vs. the Chinese workers that come over


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, it isn't discord


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
it's youtube


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The American workers are singing Pete Seeger asking for union recognition and the Chinese have bosses that are like "fuck, why can't we just force them to come in on Saturday"


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Too bad you need the support of the billionnaires to pass something like this.


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
good luck :D


[11-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
youtube broke embeds to stop some sort of "piracy bot" thing


[11-Oct-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie you remind me with that of this thing I read about the founding of the US: basically, US landowners during the revolution artificially created a "middle class" by promising vast quantites of land (that actually belonged to the native americans, but in principle) after the war was over, in order to create a buffer between the super wealthy and those living in complete peasantry


[11-Oct-19 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the Sociopaths using the Clueless to fuck the Losers


[11-Oct-19 04:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
is there any websites that have any good information about whats going on right now ?


[11-Oct-19 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

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[11-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
xD


[11-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
now that's cruel.


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@byte[]  Thank you thats the one I tried to find hard earlier


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its not easy looking up things like that


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
uhh, are you sure

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[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
for me im very picky


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and im still learning about this stuff


[11-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-fooled-by-hoax-call-from-russian-pranksters

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Lindsey Graham Fooled by Hoax Call From Russian Pranksters
During the conversations, the senator called the Kurds a “threat” to Turkey, contradicting public statements he’s made in recent days.
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[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/9/20903541/trump-proclamation-legal-immigration-health-insurance

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Trump just quietly cut legal immigration by up to 65%
This is what immigration restrictionists have been waiting for.
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[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill is the best source I've found


[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Under the proclamation, immigrants who do not have health insurance and cannot afford to pay medical care costs will not be able to move to the US permanently.**


[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao republicans


[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
has there been a lawsuit filed yet


[11-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they're going to use the US' absolutely shitty healthcare system


[11-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a reason why nobody who isn't rich should ever come here


[11-Oct-19 04:55 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lmao


[11-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Goes into effect next month


[11-Oct-19 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Don't come to america, we're shitty and bad for your health"


[11-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is going to stop 2/3rd of current legal immigration


[11-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who hate illegal immigrants because they're like "My parents came here legally, it isn't fair"


[11-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
welp


[11-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And legal immigration has already been halved under Trump


[11-Oct-19 04:56 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the most reason people hate illegals here are "take them there jobs"


[11-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically legal immigration is now the realm of the wealthy.


[11-Oct-19 04:57 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
no joke :v


[11-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kill the rich.


[11-Oct-19 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
> In order to get a green card, an immigrant will have to prove to a consular officer that they will obtain health insurance within 30 days of their arrival in the US. If they can’t, they must demonstrate that they will be able to pay for their medical expenses.


[11-Oct-19 04:57 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
gues my fiance and i can throw away everything we are working on lol


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Donald Trump's money should be repossesed by the people


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of it.


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leave him naked on a field.


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
he doesn't have any money


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has assets.


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those can be liquidated.


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
I think that's what he's been trying to hide


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ass


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I suppose


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
sorry


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
bad joke


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it's okay


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but yeah


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I know this has to feel like total shit


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
americaaa


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
fuck yeah


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
btw, it's unconstitutional


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has a tower with his name on it


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the name should be removed.


[11-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
add it to the impeachment pile


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he used to have an airline to


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but you know


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
only congress can make rules regarding naturalization


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so why does nobdy want to do anything about the whistleblower stuff in the white house ?


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
im just kind of confused


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
like oof


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
house is working on it


[11-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOTE


[11-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
'According to the Migration Policy Institute, 34 percent of those recent green card recipients are uninsured, and another 31 percent have other health care benefits that don’t count as insurance under the proclamation, including Medicaid or insurance purchased with subsidies on an Affordable Care Act exchange.'


[11-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
multiple subpoenas for white house officials


[11-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
'...or insurance purchased with subsidies on an Affordable Care Act exchange'


[11-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
white house has chosen to decline, so it's up to congress to get them arrested


[11-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this is the logical conclusion of forbidding immigrants from welfare of any kind


[11-Oct-19 05:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ooo oki the news was making it out to sound like it wasnt working it


[11-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's going to use that they might need any assistance to pay for exorbitant drug prices as reason to bar their entry


[11-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We live in a dystopia.


[11-Oct-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I need to leave


[11-Oct-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
no supposed freedom this country offers is worth staying for


[11-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
even if we get it back on track again


[11-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
there's no guarantee it couldn't just all get fucked again


[11-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans are like bedbugs


[11-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
they just keep coming back


[11-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
move to germany obv


[11-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
free schooling, just need to be able to pay for housing and general living expenses


[11-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
and speak german, of course


[11-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
something that might happen in the near future of the US is out of control inflation


[11-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
tends to happen in politically unstable countries and the dollar is weakening


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
more bad news for us, for example. Everyone, myself included, has savings in dollars :D


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
because that sure as shit beats the local toilet paper currency...


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
but I suppose nothing lasts forever.


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
reinvest in eur


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
what about the euro?


[11-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
you should probably invest in that


[11-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
there's going to be a crash in the value when brexit hits, be prepared to exchange then


[11-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
actually sounds like not a half a bad idea.


[11-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
bojo the clown has made clear it will be hard brexit


[11-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-shared-intelligence-turkey-may-have-aided-attack-on-kurds-2019-10

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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-shared-intelligence-turkey-may-have-aided-attack-on-kurds-2019-10
The US shared intelligence with Turkey that may have helped it tar...
The US provided Turkey with intelligence that may have helped it target Kurdish forces that played a vital role in the US-led fight against ISIS.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5d9f98024af909256331f11f?width=1200&format=jpeg


[11-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump didn't just "abandon" our allies


[11-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
he told Turkey where to shoot.


[11-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely. It wasn't enough to abandon them.


[11-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
so it's perfidy then


[11-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-former-russia-adviser-set-give-damning-testimony-giuliani-n1064846

>  Fiona Hill, who was until recently President Donald Trump’s top aide on Russia and Europe, plans to tell Congress that Rudy Giuliani and E.U. ambassador Gordon Sondland circumvented the National Security Council and the normal White House process to pursue a shadow policy on Ukraine, a person familiar with her expected testimony told NBC News.

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Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giul...
Fiona Hill’s appearance next week before Congress has stoked fear among people close to the president.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_41/3047351/191010-fiona-hill-ew-724p_ee0d89cb8dfc6f2372b00c8c936ffe2c.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Oct-19 05:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.twitch.tv/donaldtrump/ since when???

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LIVE: President Trump in Minneapolis, MN! Text TRUMP to 88022
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[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow You need to have some money saved up though before the Germans let you do that. Last I checked it's free if you have and prove access to a few tens or hundred thousand(s) in private capital to use. This may be the living expenses angle you mention though, but if you have that they'll let you in to study for free.


[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/florida-businessmen-who-helped-giuliani-ukraine-arrested-campaign-finance-charges-n1064606

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2 Florida businessmen who helped Giuliani in Ukraine arrested on c...
The foreign-born men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, were arrested late Wednesday at the airport attempting to leave the country.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_41/3046086/191010-lev-parnas-donald-trump-al-1016_78d060ea51477e8dcdb36071fc03ae7e.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that is a part of the living expenses thing


[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
you have to prove you have access to I think about $19k a year


[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
I do wonder if knowing some German I can flex that around a bit because I can sorta communicate and may be able to get a working man's grasp of the language to find a job to sustain my ass.


[11-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
or about $1600 a month


[11-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
that's to get a student visa


[11-Oct-19 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then that means I get to jump through additional immigration loops!


[11-Oct-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't pull that


[11-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The four-count indictment, filed in the Southern District of New York and unsealed Thursday, includes charges of conspiracy, making false statements to the Federal Election Commission and falsification of records. The documents allege an elaborate scheme to help an unnamed Ukrainian government official and a person who is described as having "Russian roots" gain access to U.S. politicians and government officials through campaign contributions in order to advance business and personal financial interests.'


[11-Oct-19 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I have some savings but I do not have the funds to do that


[11-Oct-19 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
It'd be fun to get set up in Germany. Though my stepdad would be asking me to fund a trip for him to Deutschland since he served in Germany during the seventies at the Fulda Gap, keeping an eye of the DDR as part of the US Cavalry stationed there.


[11-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
@illumnious since 2 hours ago, apparently.


[11-Oct-19 05:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think the base he was at is a memorial now and he even has his picture there somewhere. And he's done things for area schools where he talks about the Cold War for highschoolers.


[11-Oct-19 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
shit


[11-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
my personal choice would be norway though


[11-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
I don't know much about immigrating to norway, other than it's apparently hard


[11-Oct-19 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-leaked-apple-memo-explains-hkmap-live-app-removal-2019-10

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Tim Cook sent a memo to employees explaining why he stands by Appl...
Apple CEO Tim Cook said in a staff email that the app HKmap.live was being used to "maliciously target individual officers for violence."
https://image.businessinsider.com/5d9f9a774af9092b3d5a2035?width=1200&format=jpeg


[11-Oct-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I miss Jon Stewart so much


[11-Oct-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[11-Oct-19 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine the daily show covering this shit


[11-Oct-19 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They are, it;s just that trevor norton isn;t funny


[11-Oct-19 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jon stewart and steven colbert would have made this funny


[11-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465332-trumps-former-ukraine-envoy-was-dismissed-after-she-pushed-giuliani

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Trump's former Ukraine envoy was dismissed after she pushed Giulia...
Former U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yovanovitchmarie_092819youtube.png


[11-Oct-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Just move to southern Germany in Bavaria or something. Southern Germans are fun, so I hear. They're the old-school Carnival Catholics who do hella long Marti Gras. Pull together the capital to go on a student visa, study, get employed there, and be Deutsch. And maybe you can at least take advantage of European free travel to travel up to Norway.


[11-Oct-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could also maybe find a way to study at Mondragon University and get hired into Mondragon itself.


[11-Oct-19 05:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's in the Basque territory.


[11-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
isn't that in spain?


[11-Oct-19 05:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
I hear Basque food is great though.


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) I haven't even acknowledged trevor noah exists since stewart left


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the daily show is dead in my mind


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
it really feels like it's impossible to immigrate out of the US


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
comedy central kinda sucks ass now


[11-Oct-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I tried to get used to him but he just sucks


[11-Oct-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
He has none of the charisma


[11-Oct-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could also use living in the Basque country as an excuse to learn Europe's most absurd language.


[11-Oct-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
EUSKARA TIME


[11-Oct-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont really do stand up specials, their cartoons are all sycicated or awful originals, and their movies tend to be viacom rejects now


[11-Oct-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the comedy news is terrible and unfunny


[11-Oct-19 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also somehow new tosh.o is still being made


[11-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Easy when you just steal videos


[11-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the easiest way to leave the US is to be an english teacher


[11-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are interesting together https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-weeks-in-impeachment-is-becoming-more-popular/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-weeks-in-impeachment-is-becoming-more-popular/
Two Weeks In, Impeachment Is Becoming More Popular
Support for impeachment is rising among independents and Republicans, too.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/rakich.IMPEACHMENT-POLLS.16x9.png?w=575


[11-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/
It Took A Long Time For Republicans To Abandon Nixon
On July 23, 1974, Rep. Lawrence Hogan, Sr., a Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, bought airtime on TV networks across his home state of Maryland. He h…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/HISTORICAL-IMPEACHMENT-NIXON-16x9.png?w=575


[11-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans didn't support impeachment until way late with Nixon, and Republicans barely even supported it in the end


[11-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this time, Americans as a whole are supporting impeachment way, way earlier


[11-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is BDS still so controversial


[11-Oct-19 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
BDS?


[11-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boycott, Divest, Sanction


[11-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Against Israel for their treatment of Palestinians


[11-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it because Judaism is completely linked to the existence of Israel?


[11-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because if the IDF does bad shit people shouldn't be afraid of being called anti-Semites


[11-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no Its


[11-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans love Israel


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
as much as money itself


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel provides lucrative defense contract money


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans love Israel


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it helps them continue the pointless war on Arabs


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A place with socialized medicine and easy abortion


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Repressing political speech is more cost-effective than actually talking about Israel


[11-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd open up a front that could split the Republican party to talk about it.


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Way, way cheaper to put in place laws that disallow talking ill of Israel.


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they don;t care that other countries have those things, only that america doesnt have those things


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
It's literally the Jews Its


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Republicans would do this for everything if they could


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
It's like, they justify it with if we don't support the Jews we're literally hitler


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd hav laws against calling for unisex bathrooms


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the conservative endgame


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
fascism.


[11-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah, impeachment is more popular than you would expect


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it's so popular because people are just fucking tired of this administration


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was at dinner and overheard people saying that there was actually three million illegal votes in 2016


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect part of it is Nixon


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump has completely exhausted us


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
As a population


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
The _daily_ scandals


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
People when hearing about impeachment hear about Nixon being corrupt and being ousted


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they then hear this is a similar situation


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
controversy after controversy after countroversy, people;s defenses for trump are running out


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they reach the initial conclusion to impeach.


[11-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Opponent#3498
the new face of US proved too much of an embarassment :D


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Nixon didn't have a public scandal until watergate and then it wasn't made clear how bad it was until the tapes were released


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump says stupid shit on twitter every fucking day


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Embarrassing things


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people who I know who defend him the most legitimately do not care about Trump, they just want the tribe they dislike to be upset


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
He denigrates the US and compromises our economic and military allies


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is basically burning his own tribes tents to send offensive smoke signals to his opponents


[11-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Populism is a mistake.


[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inequality precipitates manipulative gov't


[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
We must march on the rich and take their money.


[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously for the people who embrace it, it is entirely built on "feels before reals"


[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] illumnious#7938
no fucking shit


[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/492919348##

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LIVE: President Trump in Minneapolis, MN! Text TRUMP to 88022
DonaldTrump - Special Events - Twitch
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[11-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"This person who is educated knows less than I do"


[11-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tax rate for billionnaires should be 100%


[11-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huey Long was right.


[11-Oct-19 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Drinking bleach will own the libs!"


[11-Oct-19 05:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RobertDeNiroUS/status/1181997904376012805

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Robert De Niro (@RobertDeNiroUS)
https://twitter.com/RobertDeNiroUS/status/1181997904376012805
Here's video of Trump attending the grand opening of Trump Tower in Turkey. Ivanka even thanked Erdogan on Twitter for this deal.

Gonna say it loud and clear:

TRUMP IS SELLING OUT KURDISH LIVES FOR A FUCKING HOTEL! #KurdsBetrayedByTrump https://t.co/bHuCaq2Mo9
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Twitter


[11-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
> Audio for portions of this video has been muted as it appears to contain copyrighted content owned or controlled by a third party.


[11-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[11-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
from that video on trump's twitch

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[11-Oct-19 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"trump's twitch" is a phrase more disheartening than any of the headlines I saw today


[11-Oct-19 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he has a twitch now


[11-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently trump finally found the excuse for pulling the US support out from under the kurds that worked on my mom


[11-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
he claimed he was sickened by and tired of all of the letters he had to sign of dead US troops to be sent to their families


[11-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
that's the excuse that worked on my mom


[11-Oct-19 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I abandoned our allies and let those soldiers die in vain because i was tired of signing letters"


[11-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
no, that's not what was implied


[11-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't that he was tired of signing letters, he was tired of seeing "good american boys" being killed or whatever


[11-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
even though I don't think trump has a single empathetic bone in his body


[11-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine Truman saying that


[11-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Ending this nonsense war in europe, the very fine people of the Reich will managed the western front, Bring our good American boys back home! Full trust that Adolf will do RIGHT with his occupation. #MAGA"


[11-Oct-19 06:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/10/minneapolis-mayor-trump-costs.html

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Minneapolis Mayor Demands Payment In Advance For Trump Rally Secur...
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey is demanding payment in advance for the security costs associated with Trump's rally in his city.
https://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Jacob-frey.jpg


[11-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
💸


[11-Oct-19 06:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They could jsut not provide him with security


[11-Oct-19 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they could just not host the rally in the first place


[11-Oct-19 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also true, though as it;s a campaign rally and not a presidential rally, they legally don;t have to provide security at all, that;s on the trump campaign to pay for


[11-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Treascair#7785
smart of the mayor, considering that Trump hasn't paid up for previous rallies.  "cash up front" is NOT a bad policy


[11-Oct-19 07:43 AM] RayoGundead#2422

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[11-Oct-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/26/duttons-department-fights-nsw-calls-to-decriminalise-the-drug-ice

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Dutton’s department fights NSW calls to decriminalise the drug ice
Home affairs warns of ‘perverse outcomes’ as health and legal experts say criminalising addicts may be causing more harm than amphetamine use itself
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[11-Oct-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
oh, this is old


[11-Oct-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/25/cannabis-set-to-be-legalised-in-australian-capital-territory-for-personal-use

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Australian Capital Territory votes to legalise cannabis for person...
Territory becomes first jurisdiction in Australia to legalise possession of up to 50 grams of marijuana and two plants
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[11-Oct-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
apparently australia is moving towards decriminalization of amphetamines


[11-Oct-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
and possibly even legalization


[11-Oct-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_methamphetamine

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Legal status of methamphetamine
The production, distribution, and sale of methamphetamine is restricted or illegal in many jurisdictions.


[11-Oct-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
huh, meth is legal for medical and scientific use in hong kong


[11-Oct-19 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
and legal for personal use in italy


[11-Oct-19 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/uganda-death-penalty-kill-the-gays-homosexuals-lgbt-a9151411.html

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Uganda announces 'Kill the Gays' law imposing death penalty on hom...
Activists warn bill risks causing increase in violence against LGBT people
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/10/10/21/uganda-gays.jpg


[11-Oct-19 10:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What The Fuck.


[11-Oct-19 10:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Party using magic money for propoganda votes against things to try and stop propoganda... :ponythinking: 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/10/brexit-party-meps-vote-against-measure-to-combat-russian-propaganda

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Brexit party MEPs vote against plans to tackle Russian propaganda
Resolution seeking upgrade of EU counter-disinformation unit nevertheless passes easily
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[11-Oct-19 10:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They also usually abstain from voting by not even showing up. So they went out of their way to vote against this.


[11-Oct-19 10:59 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure there was plenty of evidence that the brexit vote was manipulated by russia


[11-Oct-19 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5a885a04f8bc4ad99144bf7e01be39a6

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Trump administration ramps up deportations to Cuba
MIAMI (AP) — After seeking asylum in the United States at the Mexican border, Pablo Sanchez was placed in a detention center and is now facing what has become an increasingly common scenario under...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/9447cc97bfd2422e9ef78b7e5281c0f9/3000.jpeg


[11-Oct-19 02:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166564.shtml

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Chinese fans tear up tickets to protest NBA game in Shanghai amid ...
Chinese fans boycotted a controversial US National Basketball Association (NBA) game in Shanghai on Thursday by tearing up tickets they bought, others attended it but showed patriotism and expressed discontent with NBA at the sports center.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2019/2019-10-10/d0943cdb-38f9-4d96-b2e7-628a79e8bdc2.jpeg


[11-Oct-19 02:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I bought the ticket for 16,000 yuan ($2,246) but I know clearly that I am a Chinese before I am a basketball fan."


[11-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I would pay to have these people in a room with people who burn Nikes


[11-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus translators


[11-Oct-19 02:39 PM] Opponent#3498
+5 social credits for a public display of disapproval for US


[11-Oct-19 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, most likely


[11-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder what these shitheels want from the NBA


[11-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To drag the guy out into the court, put a sack over his head, and give every chinese national in the stands 3 rocks?


[11-Oct-19 02:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[11-Oct-19 02:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reposting but only because so interesting


[11-Oct-19 02:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRB-AQ8XUAEETsT?format=jpg&name=large

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[11-Oct-19 03:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I've researched calling those cheese lumpias inauthentic is kinda like calling a mozzarella stick inauthentic American


[11-Oct-19 03:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure it's authentic but it's not "real" food


[11-Oct-19 03:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously, the traditional dipping sauce? Mayo mixed with banana ketchup.


[11-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465358-trumps-eu-ambassador-to-testify-after-democrats-subpoena

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Trump's EU ambassador to testify after Democrats' subpoena
A key witness in House Democrats' ongoing impeachment inquiry will testify next week despite the State Department's objection.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_101019getty.jpg


[11-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
6 days from now


[11-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone is testifying today


[11-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything moves so slow when things get exciting


[11-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lemme guess, closed doors, Schiff will say it's incredibly damning, Nunes will complain that the American public won't hear about it yet because it completely exculpates Trump


[11-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[11-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Jordan and Gaetz will screech


[11-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's amazing to me that those two are considered 2024 front runners


[11-Oct-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are?


[11-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gaetz thinks "kangaroo court" comes from Captain Kangaroo


[11-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean why else are they so aggressive


[11-Oct-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they;re paid off to be aggressive?


[11-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want to be seen as _the_ most loyal


[11-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So when their run fails Jr or Ivanka picks them for VP


[11-Oct-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god right, trump will likely make his children run so he can attempt a dynasty...


[11-Oct-19 03:35 PM] Cloudy#3004
I think more republicans will distance themselves from trump when he's no longer in office and hurting their political careers


[11-Oct-19 03:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just need to subpoena Taylor now, the guy who called this crazy


[11-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland was the guy telling Taylor it was all fine


[11-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And not to leave a paper trail of discussion


[11-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of people thought the Tea Party would go away whenever McCain's campaign bombed


[11-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Cloudy#3004
cause a lot of them said he was incredibly dumb on the campaign trail, and then they fell in line instantly when he got elected
Like Graham


[11-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So exactly what everyone did with W


[11-Oct-19 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the party of maga is the new face of the republicans, the poliuticians may move on but maga will still be there throwing harpoons at thme for not being loyal to trump


[11-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Cloudy#3004
undoubtably


[11-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Cloudy#3004
they wouldn't say "Trump's stupid"
but they'll distance themselves from some of his positions


[11-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Cloudy#3004
cause that'd lose the support of his base


[11-Oct-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that or they'll try and find someone more criminally insane because it;s still ramping up


[11-Oct-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has also opened a horrifying new possibility for future presidents if things get worse. Corporate CEO presidents who use the same tactics trump did to keep ties to their businesses


[11-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Cloudy#3004
tbh I'm sure they could find a Trump-like candidate with more brains to hold the torch up
cause really
Trump's biggest issue
is he can't stfu


[11-Oct-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There are plenty of corporate entities who coudl easily do all the same things he does but quieter


[11-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Cloudy#3004
exactly


[11-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Cloudy#3004
but they need someone with personality too


[11-Oct-19 03:43 PM] Cloudy#3004
Trump's charismatic


[11-Oct-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also need soemone who is willing to shoot people in the spine at the drop of a pin


[11-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Cloudy#3004
yep


[11-Oct-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should all be shot in the spine themselves


[11-Oct-19 04:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[11-Oct-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9orxh934esr31.jpg

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[11-Oct-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
School went into lockdown, a girl with a gun was found, nobody was injured


[11-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Thanks google https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/11/google-contributions-climate-change-deniers

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Revealed: Google made large contributions to climate change deniers
Firm’s public calls for climate action contrast with backing for conservative thinktanks
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[11-Oct-19 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course


[11-Oct-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of fucking course they did


[11-Oct-19 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Oct-19 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Stupid Watergate gets stupider:
> You know what they called the LLC that illegally dumped Russian money in the GOP and that payed the personal lawyer of Trump hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the US ambassador to Ukraine fired? 
> "Fraud Guarantee”


[11-Oct-19 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
mouth of the rat indeed


[11-Oct-19 05:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So much for googles motto.


[11-Oct-19 05:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1182682269804310529?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1182682269804310529?s=21
A Giant Scam! https://t.co/Go4TffoEaq
Retweets
468
Likes
1194
Twitter


[11-Oct-19 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938

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[11-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/trump-mazars-appeal-decision/index.html

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Trump loses appeal to stop House subpoena of his tax documents
President Donald Trump on Friday lost his appeal to stop a House subpoena of his tax documents from his longtime accountant Mazars USA.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190919130022-20190918-trump-tax-forms-generic-super-tease.jpg


[11-Oct-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/10/11/trmp-o11.html

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Trump makes fascistic appeal to police and military at Minneapolis...
The president spoke at his first rally since the start of the impeachment inquiry with dozens of red-shirted police as a backdrop, and any protesters physically removed.
https://www.wsws.org/asset/52aea2b4-ba7e-4508-bbe3-255367614bb8/image.jpg


[11-Oct-19 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
"We’re bringing the soldiers home. We may need them for something else."


[11-Oct-19 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
I remember that line


[11-Oct-19 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Btw


[11-Oct-19 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
The point of the constitution is not to have three equal branches


[11-Oct-19 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
It's to make congress the branch with the most power


[11-Oct-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610

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[11-Oct-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/6O5zD00.png

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How to resist
https://i.imgur.com/6O5zD00.png


[11-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Would this outfit work in Russia?


[11-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
On Google, remember what Google is


[11-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
a powerful corporation


[11-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
and what conservatism is


[11-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
a blanket defense of where power currently lies


[11-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of fukking course they'd donate both to causes fighting and fighting fighting climate change


[11-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
the whole point is to get on everyone's good side while the world burns.


[11-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
this is depressing as balls, you know? xD This whole thing. US looks likely to fall apart. Europe looks likely to fall apart. Hell, Russia looks likely to fall apart


[11-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
guess who isn't xD


[11-Oct-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
🇨🇳


[11-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Firefly was right


[11-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Earth will be a toxic shithole and the only countries capable of escaping will be the US and China, who will band together into an oppressive dictatorship.


[11-Oct-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
sick culture of wealth


[11-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Damn children with lukemia


[11-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
ikr


[11-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
we must rise against


[11-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
there's just one minor problem. A successful movement needs funds and leaders. Neither is overly likely. Grassroots crap is good but only solves local easily understandable issues.


[11-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oops.  You said that here, now you are being watched!


[11-Oct-19 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh my google searches have probably put me on a watchlist by now


[11-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tencent owns Discord, fyi


[11-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is why^


[11-Oct-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
facebook is trying to buy it


[11-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why I am careful on discussions here


[11-Oct-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good that;s something we need, facebook run discord


[11-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I will need a fb acc then?


[11-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Opponent#3498
if you're not memeing, which I strongly suspect you are, you can rest easy. Killing all the discords discussing potential weird shit would be easily noticeable. We're not there yet.


[11-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465412-read-former-ukrainian-ambassador-blames-questionable-motives-for-dismissal#

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READ: Former Ukrainian ambassador blames 'questionable motives' fo...
Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, on Friday told Congress that she lost her job due to “unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yovanovitchmarie_101119gn2_lead.jpg


[11-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not memeing, tencent owns a portion of discord


[11-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
no I know


[11-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I was talking to uh


[11-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
sire?


[11-Oct-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eris


[11-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's a good motivation to start drawing, because how can I have fb without "photos" of r63 discord?


[11-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
eris, right.


[11-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yep


[11-Oct-19 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does tencent straight up own discord, or is it like a share thing?


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
share thing


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tencent doesn't outright own much


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
`Discord: Discord has received $158 million in funding last year, including an undisclosed amount from Tencent (among many other investors).`


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
@PC gamer


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Owning things outright is hard work


[11-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Easier to just collect dividends


[11-Oct-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that's part of what killed business in america as a positive thing...


[11-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
sick culture of wealth


[11-Oct-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being a shareholder is much easier and far less demanding


[11-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not enough to be the richest man in the world


[11-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
you have to actively take from others too


[11-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
to be viable as a business you need to be attractive to investments. To be attractive to investments, you need to have growing profits :3


[11-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
boom.


[11-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well, that's how I see it anyway.


[11-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about regular shares and control shares thing (not familiar with businessy things)?


[11-Oct-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well regular shares are the smaller insigificant shares who have no say in anything a company does but still gain stock from them


[11-Oct-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
control shares are the majority shares who make all the decisions now because corporations don;t have a say in themselves anymore


[11-Oct-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
however if the regular shares are bought up or transfered to oen person, they can add up to a control share


[11-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I just remember one company that got of 37% shares owned by govt, who stalled new developments as much possible.


[11-Oct-19 07:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They got 2 seats in board of directors.


[11-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it amusing my bank sent me a mail talking about how proud I should be for their privacy and security


[11-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And by my bank, I mean someone else's bank


[11-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's been sending me their online bank statements every week


[11-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For the last two years


[11-Oct-19 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[11-Oct-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a chinology


[11-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does your bank force you to read on most recent and popular scams, every time you log in?


[11-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My actual bank?


[11-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, just the latest "financial opportunity" or whatever 50k euro credit loan they want me to take


[11-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The scary part is that the banks here allow you to open a new bank account from an app on smartphone.


[11-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
that moment when banks in Ukraine are more customer-friendly than US xD At least at a glance


[11-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Banks here charge you for visiting them and talking to clerk.


[11-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
fun


[11-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Charge $0.1 per email with monthly statement (or on demand)


[11-Oct-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
banks are jsut as predatory as anything else in america


[11-Oct-19 07:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And tax agencies.


[11-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The only state entity that works very well.


[11-Oct-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Welcome to america! where we tell you to pay taxes, won;t tell you how much you owe, but will arrest you anyway if you guess wrong!


[11-Oct-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The rich have immunity to this of course, we're not barbarian monsters after all


[11-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, for-profit prisons tell you everything you need to know about modern capitalism :D Even besides the endlessly growing profits.


[11-Oct-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[11-Oct-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids: if the police are chasing you for committing a crime, cross state borders to make it a federal crime! this will keep you out of private prisons!


[11-Oct-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/politician-catholic-church-abuse-warning-signs-1464619

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Politician wants Catholic churches to post signs warning children ...
As the Catholic church continues to grapple with sexual abuse scandals, one Australian politician wants their buildings labeled as unsafe for children.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1535299/ave-maria-oratory.jpg


[11-Oct-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
> Many Catholic leaders are protesting the law because it includes abuse admitted within the space of the confessional.


[11-Oct-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Excuse me, are they dumb


[11-Oct-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
So if I fucking murder someone and then admit it in the confessional it's okay


[11-Oct-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Holy shit


[11-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't call him a murderer, sir, he confessed it, all is forgiven.


[11-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they're simply protecting their own.


[11-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
any clan would do so.


[11-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
Catholic priests are commonly known to do this stuff. That's literally going back decades if not centuries.


[11-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody did anything about it before, and odds are nobody will now. Publicity helps, though.


[11-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protecting your own when they do bad is immoral.


[11-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And should deserve extra punishment.


[11-Oct-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/politics/lindsey-graham-trump-hoax-call/index.html

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Lindsey Graham prank called by Russians pretending to be Turkish d...
Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina was pranked by two Russians pretending to be Turkey's minister of defense in an August phone call, his office said on Thursday.
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[11-Oct-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
What is the Onion anymore


[11-Oct-19 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie maybe, but, again, that never happened before


[11-Oct-19 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
and is highly unlikely to happen any time soon


[11-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
Catholicism is for all intents and purposes a state religion


[11-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
not in status but in clout, certainly


[11-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the more reason to burn down the church.


[11-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah they kinda suck a lot.


[11-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I always thought it was so extreme because the most radical ideologues were exiled from Europe to the New World. So Europe calmed down and those guys preserved their 'traditions'


[11-Oct-19 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1182674085416800257

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[11-Oct-19 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Comrade Mei


[11-Oct-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Rule change blocked https://www.cbsnews.com/news/public-charge-rule-judge-blocks-attempt-to-deny-green-cards-and-visas-to-low-income-immigrants/

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Judge blocks Trump rule to deny green cards and visas to low-incom...
The rule, slated to go into effect on Tuesday, would've made it easier for the government to reject green card and temporary visa applications from low-income immigrants
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[11-Oct-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[11-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
Mei. The chinese (not HK or anything, according to explicitly stated ages ago info). Is fighting for her rights.


[11-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a disaster waiting to happen xD


[11-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
and not for Blizzard or China...


[11-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea was creative but damn, the devil's in the details as always


[11-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, China is clearly more about blunt force trauma than actual creative countermeasures


[11-Oct-19 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know lol


[11-Oct-19 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the intent that matters in this case, anyway


[11-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2019/10/11/manchester-teen-griffiths-sex-offender-friend/

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Manchester Teen Faces Sex Offender Status for Touching 17-Year-Old...
Last fall, in Manchester, England, an awkward 19-year-old male student touched a 17-year-old female classmate's arm on the street during
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/dreamstime_m_145753471-1200x630.jpg


[11-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
> "The complainant's evidence was very clear, logical and without embellishment," a magistrate told the young man. "We can think of no motivation for you to touch the victim other than sexual. Had she not taken evasive action the assault was likely to have been even more serious."


[11-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
> At his hearing, student Jamie Griffiths was convicted of two charges of sexual assault, in part because the accuser, now 18, said that she had "no doubt" that had she not moved away from him that first time he touched her arm, he would have gone on to touch her breast.


[11-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[11-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
well. Happy # metoo everyone.


[11-Oct-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
If you like subpoena coladas, and getting caught in Ukraine

If you’re not into governing, and you got the best brain

If you like serving up big macs, and sanity’s a reach

We’ve got enough whistleblowers, that we’re gonna impeach


[11-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
he faces up to 10 years in jail or possibly registering as a sex offender


[11-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
for touching someone's arm


[11-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
because that someone was absolutely sure he planned on touching her breast


[11-Oct-19 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TOUCH MY ARM DADDY :raep:


[11-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
listen and believe


[11-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
it's this kind of shit that's the reason anyone can support conservatives at all.


[11-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are the ones tho who impose harsh sentences


[11-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
liberals generally want reform of sentencing on this kind of thing


[11-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the gotcha


[11-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives make you support them by you being mad at policies they caused that they misattribute to liberals.


[11-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why conservatives stealing liberal ideas is so dangerous


[11-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
they twist them into something to assault the poor under the guise of a better society


[11-Oct-19 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Found a mini essay on fascism I think is worth a pin


[11-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Opponent#3498
so this _thing_ is actually a conservative law/initiative?


[11-Oct-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dgdujp/we_cant_stop_being_horrified_by_things_like_this/f3awwdo?context=3

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'We Can't Stop Being Horrified by Things Like This': Trump Attacks...
Posted in r/politics by u/Thinkingonsleeping • 6,195 points and 210 comments
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[11-Oct-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
The comment


[11-Oct-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't copy because mobile


[11-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie I might be misunderstanding you, but, are you saying # metoo, 'listen and believe', and this kind of thing, deep think resulting in 'physical contact equals rape', all of this is conservative policies?


[11-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
you said 'caused by'. I'm not sure what you mean by it.


[11-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is, liberals will say they want to actually report sexual assault and not just sweep things under the rug


[11-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives then come in and draft up the actual law


[11-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
which gets you laws like IIRC Oklahoma's one where any touching of a child's butt ever meant jailtime


[11-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
even changing a diaper


[11-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is because conservatives know that the poor often engage in sexual assault, or in things that look like it, and can't afford good lawyers


[11-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
so they make the law really hard to deal with, almost to the point of guilty until proven innocent (in the case of that butt touch law, it was sexual intent until proven otherwise)


[11-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives reap the rewards of liberal support for a time, and also get to put more poor people in jail.


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And society just wastes money.


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Opponent#3498
well, this definition isn't just 'the poor'. This is almost literally everyone is guilty until proven innocent.


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the rich can afford lawyers


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
good lawyers


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Opponent#3498
this kind of thing is typically attributed to liberals


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
who can muddle the issue away


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand that it's very easy to draft a law such that only the rich can possibly not be convicted by it.


[11-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the purpose of this stuff is


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well obviously, but then what is 'rich' here?


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Able to afford a personal lawyer


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is like, less than half of Americans


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And virtually no blakk people included in that.


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
until the next case. And then the next. And the next.


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
this kind of law prevents society functioning at all, this isn't rich vs poor


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note, conservatives in the US regularly push for extra fines and more offenses added to the law


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
as wall as more police


[11-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't even Russia's laws


[11-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes it hampers society functioning, that's part of the idea


[11-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you jam up the system, only the rich can get anywhere


[11-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
because money lubricates the gears


[11-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being rich is a whole other world.


[11-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
this is... I think way too simplistic of a view.


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's the point of it


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
rich can't afford court proceedings forever.


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They often can


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody can.


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand that money in the bank accrues


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, fine, but then rich isn't 'less than half'


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
because in practice you invest it


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like 1% or something


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you must understand most people don't face CONSTANT legal issues


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's usually time in between


[11-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
with a law like this they might.


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Enuff time to get more money


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause money you hav = more money


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people's money doesn't accumulate


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
this doesn't make sense to me, sorry.


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't invest


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I get all this peacemeal, but it doesn't fit the big picture.


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds like you don't understand investing math


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let me put something to you that may sound a bit weird


[11-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
no, I understand that money can make more money, that's not a concern.


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but you don't *get it*


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's say there's a bridge


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
that requires maintenance every year


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
A fixed amount of maintenance that follows inflation


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I need to pay for the bridge maintenance for eternity.


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
All eternity.


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally infinity years.


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I set down $60 million


[11-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and done.


[11-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
That $60 million every year generates enuff money to pay for maintenance, and it's invested in something that follows inflation.


[11-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bam, bridge is paid for **forever**


[11-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now of course it won't exactly be $60 million every time


[11-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
$60 million was what the EPA used to pay for the water treatment plant here for all eternity.


[11-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
What you've gotta understand is money now > money in the future


[11-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
increasing with distance of time


[11-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Money in the past > money now as well


[11-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you move money temporally, it changes amount.


[11-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least, it does if you actually invest it, like the rich do, and people do for projects.


[11-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It however does the opposite if you're poor and aren't investing it.


[11-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because inflation makes it reduce in value.


[11-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Money sat in your pokket loses value, money invested gains value.


[11-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This creates a massive disparity between those who save and those who invest.


[11-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those who invest CAN afford perpetual proceedings.


[11-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their money generates enuff new money to cover the cost.


[11-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those who save cannot.


[11-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not view the rich as just having a bigger pile of resources than you, that is very naive


[11-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lottery winner has a big pile of resources


[11-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
a rich person has an ever-growing ball of resources.


[11-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I get all this (some bits and pieces came together but still). This doesn't explain the creation of a law with 'guilty until proven innocent' on social interaction. 'Guilty until proven innocent' on economics is one thing, we're pretty used to that. But destroying social interaction is universally harmful.


[11-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that a rich person can bury the accusation with a bribe


[11-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
or buy a better lawyer for trial


[11-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
or post bail and flee the country before trial


[11-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
A rich person has a multitude of options to make the problem go away


[11-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Laws that punish everyone to an extreme and make it hard to prove yourself innocent = laws that throw the poor in jail 100% and the rich in jail almost never.


[11-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of writing them is to hav an excuse to turn any given blakk guy into a slave in the private prison system.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
this is every law though. Literally every law can be used like this.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not every law


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't need to build something extra egregious.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
if you want to bury someone, you plant evidence and convict them.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
it's just that easy.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
if a law actually makes it hard to prove someone guilty, if it actually is reasonable


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
then even a public defender can work to stop the poor sap from going to jail


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the point.


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police DON'T NEED to plant evidence


[11-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't directly in league with the people who wrote the law


[11-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about burying specific people


[11-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to create a system where honest police work and honest use of the court system leads to horrific imprisonment of the poor.


[11-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way when people go searching for where things went wrong, they just turn up a good-looking Western court system.


[11-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless they realize that the problem is the law itself.


[11-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
okay. I hear you now.


[11-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arguing against the law itself is harder than arguing against what the police did.


[11-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why Republicans care so much about controlling state legislatures.


[11-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time SCOTUS rules that law A is unconstitutional due to how it unfairly sets things up


[11-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Laws B, C, and D are being enforced lokking blakks up.


[11-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similar is anti-abortion laws


[11-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I hear you, but I'd like a second opinion on this, if anyone could provide it.


[11-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Said laws don't always directly ban abortion


[11-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Often what they do is they set up new "safety requirements" for abortion services


[11-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like the doctor needs admittance allowance at the nearest hospital


[11-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
or the hallways need to be 8 feet wide like for surgery


[11-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
These requirements are designed to be really expensive if not impossible to meet.


[11-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that there are fewer abortion clinics


[11-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that the next round of laws can then outlaw *those* clinics by saying they need more.


[11-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
moving the goalposts. Yeah, I'd imagine it to be pretty effective.


[11-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is you end up with 1 abortion clinic, and a law to shut it down.


[11-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] I think knows a bunch about the way laws get written to fukk over the poor


[11-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
still, there's this (despicable, but understandable). And then there's shit like 'in the morning the girl decides she doesn't like you so she reports rape and you get 10 years'. Not a specific incident, merely an impression of how things work in that area now.


[11-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
that I kind of still struggle with.


[11-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is conservatives aren't directly opposed to handing down rape sentences on scant evidence


[11-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are opposed to rich white boys getting said sentences


[11-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'll see this a lot when cases are dismissed


[11-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The judge will cite the "good character" and "good grades" of the targeted guy


[11-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/nyregion/judge-james-troiano-rape.html

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Teenager Accused of Rape Deserves Leniency Because He’s From a ...
The family court judge also said the victim should have been told that pressing charges would destroy the accused’s life.
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[11-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about what this is actually saying.


[11-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
'But a family court judge said it wasn’t rape. Instead, he wondered aloud if it was sexual assault, defining rape as something reserved for an attack at gunpoint by strangers.'


[11-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, the kind of thing the judge imagines blakk people do.


[11-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just go up with a gun and tell some girl to bend over.


[11-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those people make me sick


[11-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but I read the transcript again and given context I don't get how you can't see this as a shakedown


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what conservatism is about


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
any excuse to justify those in power.


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The call transcript?


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Volker texts too. The EU diplomat saying not to talk via text


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it doesn't spell it out nice and slow in bolded letters


[11-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of equal treatment is kryptonite to conservatives.


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is another thing I never understood. Who the fuck cares about grades? Either rape happened, or not. If it's impossible to prove, well, tough. Here, reading it, he FILMED it. It's open and closed case.


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, "Hey, let's keep this off a logged service, call me"


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want "I want you to investigate Hunter Biden to hurt his dad in the next election"


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
for how much US seems to be obsessed by laws, it disregards them much too often.


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Laws are to keep the poor poor


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
(also Darwin's award goes to the moron filming himself doing the deed, jesus f christ)


[11-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Taylor is testifying as well as the guy who said "there's no quid pro quo but also shhh don't talk about this in text"


[11-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland


[11-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absurd to me


[11-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Am I just crazy?


[11-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent Blakk people get bad grades because they get less resources for their school and at home.


[11-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't specifically say income for a reason to throw people in jail or not


[11-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you could use grades to claim you're using character evidence


[11-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
if it's like abject poverty, with little food, a really shitty housing below minimal standards, a need to work a part-time to support family and so on. I can see it, sure. But there can't be THAT many of situations where it's this bad. Certainly not on the scale of percentages of total population. Or is it?


[11-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prior to the late 60s, housing companies would refuse to allow blakks in anything but the worst housing


[11-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when they saw a blakk neighborhood, it'd soon get torn down to make way for a highway, or rezoned for industrial [waste]


[11-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Local gov't, federal gov't, and business were all working together to make sure that blakk people got the worst housing and opportunities


[11-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note that the way wealth works for the average person, most of it is in your home


[11-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fast forward 50 years, white people hav a ton of wealth in their homes, blakks are mostly still renting.


[11-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and schools are funded by property taxes, @Opponent


[11-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the county level


[11-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
so if you're in an area with shitty housing, you hav less wealth and your schools are worse


[11-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
this culminates in a whole generally worse area for you, economically


[11-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also until recently, insurers could massively discriminate based on such


[11-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd say you're higher risk due to neighborhood, and charge you boatloads extra


[11-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
note that car insurance is mandated by law to drive a vehicle.


[11-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's common here as well. Although we don't have anything close to issues like these.


[11-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as far as the original topic


[11-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
bakk before civil rights was a big thing


[11-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
the most common way to go after a blakk kid was to accuse him of raping a white girl


[11-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
To Kill a Mockingbird's about a fictional such case


[11-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, kids will always be sneaking out of daddy's house for sex


[11-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but poor people are worse at hiding it


[11-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guy says it was consensual, and it was


[11-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the white girl cries rape so daddy pretends she's innocent


[11-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
soon enuff, if the blakk guy isn't lynched, he's in jail for years


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, the thing about cultural taboos on sex is that they can be ignored if you're in the upper classes


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're primarily a tool of control


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
People will violate them regardless


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
because humans fundamentally are impulsive about sex


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same reason as why there are many taboos on bodily functions


[11-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich can easily afford to not end up pissing on the street


[11-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if they do burp at a fancy dinner or something, other rich people will cover for them and pretend it didn't happen.


[11-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The poor do not hav those luxuries


[11-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
they must constantly be on edge to use their limited resources to appear presentable


[11-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of human society is based around rules we know people won't really follow so that the powerful can be justified to retain it by virtue of appearing innocent.


[11-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives' MO is to make the rules harsher lest the poor people be given a chance, while creating ways they can game the system.


[11-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Epstein got the plea deal of the century for things any normal man would be in jail for life over.


[11-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, if you want sane law, the US is kind of far from it.


[11-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sane law needs a lot of chekks in it that we only jail people who were really up to no good, and also needs ways to punish people for trying to bribe the system, and all sorts of transparency so we can detect when they do it.


[11-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the Epstein trouble was a transparency failure...because the DOJ literally broke the law by not telling the victims about the plea deal..


[11-Oct-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/shepard-smith-leaving-fox-news-1247097

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Shepard Smith Leaving Fox News
The anchor is one of the faces of the network's news division and one of its most important journalistic assets.
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[11-Oct-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Unfortunate


[11-Oct-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Shep Smith was one of their token liberals


[11-Oct-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/deploy-large-number-forces-saudi-arabia-report-191011160852019.html

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US to deploy 3,000 additional troops to Saudi Arabia
Pentagon says troops and equipment are meant to boost Saudi Arabia's defences after attacks on its oil facilities.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2018/10/13/bc6825f4fd6b4adc949d9db6182bb3ca_18.jpg


[11-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did the Saudi's storm Normandy with us? I don't remember that from my history lessons


[11-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/more-potential-whistleblowers-are-contacting-congress

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More Potential Whistleblowers Are Contacting Congress
The first two officials who came forward about the president’s pressure campaign on Ukraine seem to be just the beginning, according to Hill sources.
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[11-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I like hearing smoothbrain takes resorting to personal attacks on legal pundits on Twitter


[11-Oct-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay, read the backlog


[11-Oct-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent the biggest way that rich people become above the law is to simply carve exemptions in the law for their behavior


[11-Oct-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not the kind of outright bribery you see in eastern europe


[11-Oct-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
where there you're acting against the enforcement


[11-Oct-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
but the effect is the same


[11-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Now I get what they're talking about when they talk about


[11-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
'corrupt government' xD


[11-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
referring to us, naturally.


[11-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
but no, I'd rather have bribery.


[11-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I wouldn't


[11-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
There's no paper trail of bribery


[11-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
There's always a paper trail of lobbying


[11-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
The difference is the one thing that makes it possible to hold people accountable for what they do


[11-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, we can easily see who owns our politicans


[11-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465457-white-house-accidentally-sends-ukraine-talking-points-to-democrats-again

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White House accidentally sends Ukraine talking points to Democrats...
The White House accidentally sent Democrats a list of talking points related to ex-Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s Friday House deposition, two sources with knowledge of the email told The Hill, the second time in a month the administration
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/taxreturns_trumpdonald_072519getty.jpg


[11-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He really doesn't have a plan to fight this does he


[11-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just Rudy and the Benghazi guy


[11-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't believe it's been 8 years since Seth Meyers goaded Trump into being president, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4MzaGk2VI

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[11-Oct-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
He did an interview about that and he was like "shit, sorry"


[11-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's expression the entire way through...


[11-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When you think about it you could probably take being removed from office and make a lot of money off of it


[11-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen a few hypotheses that once a few flip it will be like dominoes


[11-Oct-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The direct haters, then the weak seats, then the pragmatic ones


[11-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465472-ag-barr-blames-drug-overdoses-on-secular-society

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AG Barr blames drug overdoses on secular society
Attorney General William Barr blamed secularism in society for a series of problems like drug overdoses, violence and poor mental health while
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/barrwilliam_050919gn11_lead.jpg


[11-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
`There's no paper trail of bribery
There's always a paper trail of lobbying`


[11-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't make a whole of a lot of difference though.


[11-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, people are injecting heroin because they don't read the Bible


[11-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[11-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
just something to be angry and depressed about.


[11-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
at this point I seriously begin to understand the meaning behind 'ignorance is bliss'


[11-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Militant secularists"


[11-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
in all honesty, going religious is one of the ways to rehab drug addicts.


[11-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
you can't really _shake_ the addiction. You can replace it with another, arguably healthier one.


[11-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
so he's not entirely wrong there.


[11-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
that coming from people I know, who worked with addicts. Like, there ARE some who break entirely free, but it's several percent total. Everyone else finds something else to focus on instead, to define their lives.


[11-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
`we are seeing record levels of depression and mental illness`


[11-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
again, not wrong. If you firmly believe that whatever happens happens, and all your sufferings will be repaid in the afterlife, you can weather any storm.


[11-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
after all, the only dream that matters is the one you wake up from.


[11-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
that's probably one of the reasons the various religions are built like this.


[11-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
an excellent crowd-control tool.


[11-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
`Along with the wreckage of the family`


[11-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
if what you're saying is true, this is firmly on him and people like him, yet they successfully attributed it to liberals.


[11-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Pretty much what everyone else said. Trump is an idiot. This guy is a threat.


[11-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
People don't become religious for a new addiction, religion doesn't sate the need


[11-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They go religious to save face in the community and go "see, the past is all gone now!" which givs them new opportunities in society, which is what really keeps them likely out of drugs, or at least able to suppress information about it.


[11-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, with drugs, you get slammed hard by the law, which in turn can mean no ability to gain employment later.


[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I think if Trump gets removed his personal fortune will get crushed


[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWxbAoOK2o

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[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
OwO train daddy


[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are a multitude of things where he isn't being indicted because he's a sitting president


[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
the moment he is out of office, he will be facing like 10 different criminal charges


[11-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
With piles of evidence for each.


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if he shakes off half, he's going to jail and facing massive fines


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also when you are removed you never were legally president technically


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
From there, his personal fortunes will implode.


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause his tax info will be out and about and everyone will know where the money is hidden.


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy will help


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rudy will be in jail.


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Got him the death penalty when prosecutors only wanted 30 years!


[11-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Heh


[11-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if he only ran because one of his lawyers joked that "The only way you don't die in prison at this point is if you become president for life"


[11-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then he's like "I'd be a GREAT president"


[11-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
*Lawyer stares for 10 minutes straight as Trump rants*


[11-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Snow#2761

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[11-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think they have a strategy for this at all


[11-Oct-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what little strategy they did have just fell appart on them


[11-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
`Remember, with drugs, you get slammed hard by the law, which in turn can mean no ability to gain employment later.`


[11-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well, that's probably regional difference.


[11-Oct-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s what happens in america


[11-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[11-Oct-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know much about ukraine on that end


[11-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it depends. With how much new crap they tried to push these last few years, I lost track on many things like if addicts are criminalised.


[11-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
but it used to be like this, definitely up to 'revolution of dignity'.


[11-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
(and words cannot express how much I despise that name)


[11-Oct-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://reason.com/2019/10/10/trumps-new-executive-orders-to-restrain-the-administrative-state/

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Trump's New Executive Orders To Restrain the Administrative State
President Donald Trump just announced two executive orders to rein in unlawful administrative state action.  The first order declares that
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Donald-Trump-1161x630.jpg


[11-Oct-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The first order declares that its goal is "to ensure that Americans are subject to only those binding rules imposed through duly enacted statutes or through regulations lawfully promulgated under them, and that Americans have fair notice of their obligations."

The second complements the first, promising that Americans will not "be subjected to a civil administrative enforcement action or adjudication absent prior public notice of both the enforcing agency's jurisdiction over particular conduct and the legal standards applicable to that conduct."


[12-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, in addition to ridiculous laws you had this


[12-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
or, have, rather.


[12-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
and he's doing this... why?


[12-Oct-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably to try and protect his own ass


[12-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah but how does it help him?


[12-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This most likely isn't done directly by him


[12-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho he's putting out the order


[12-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This looks like something that was drafted by aides and civil servants and they told him it'd make him look good.


[12-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may notice a distinct lakk of Trumpian styling to it.


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now that said, this is a really big deal and may go down in history as the best thing he's ever done in his presidency.


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that too confused me.


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it really doesn't look like him


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core point of this is that regulatory agencies often impose fines without warning on rules they themselves wrote, essentially bypassing congress via the chevron defense.


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has been a long time coming to rein them in.


[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465482-trump-goes-after-shepard-smith-for-bad-ratings-after-news-of-his-exit#

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Trump goes after Shepard Smith for 'bad ratings' after news of his...
President Trump took a shot at top Fox News anchor Shepard Smith's "terrible ratings" before wishing the longtime host "well" following
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[12-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh my God who even cares


[12-Oct-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he does


[12-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wouldn't be surprised if this actually got drafted under Obama, but at the time it was seen as too likely to impede the EPA so got shelved.


[12-Oct-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump cares


[12-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The nightmare scenario would be Biden wins the presidency and overturns it


[12-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then instead of pressing the EPA to fix shit with it, goes around crushing tech startups.


[12-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the democrats' stance? Big business instead of MAGA?


[12-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon valley instead of the oil industry


[12-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both parties are led by neoliberals


[12-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why Warren and Sanders saying they will fix economic inequality has those on Wall Street threatening to donate to Trump's campaign unless Biden wins the nomination.


[12-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders' policies are way out of line with what Democrats as a party want


[12-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but are in line with what voters want, there's been a huge shift over the last decade)


[12-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren did have a sick burn


[12-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I believe marriage should be between one man and one woman"


[12-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Then marry one woman, if you can find one."


[12-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465489-arrested-giuliani-associate-attended-trumps-invite-only-2016-election-night

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Arrested Giuliani associate attended Trump's invite-only 2016 elec...
Lev Parnas, a now-arrested associate of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, attended President Trump's 2016 invite-only election night party according to a report from a French newspaper about the event.
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[12-Oct-19 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664

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https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1182694698659569664
Ben Shapiro warns that if politicians try to mandate LGBTQ 'indoctrination' at all schools, then he will "pick up a gun." Further adding "Beto O'Rourke does not get to raise my child. And if he tries, I will meet him at the door with a gun" https://t.co/Hq7SyF7FeI
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[12-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously why are their faces so wide?


[12-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The look like they got flattened as babies.


[12-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
oh jesus this guy.


[12-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
the LAST thing the world needs is fake philosphers in a spotlight


[12-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50023008

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Payments giants abandon Facebook's Libra
Mastercard, Visa, eBay and Stripe join PayPal in no longer supporting Facebook's effort to launch a currency.
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[12-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shapiro's take still doesn't beat "I need a gun so I can hijack a plane and fly my child to get surgery in a country with socialized medicine"


[12-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
whos line was that?


[12-Oct-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some guy on twitter


[12-Oct-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1182468483906527232

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The delivery here makes this even funnier https://t.co/Edywcie5Yf
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[12-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ouch


[12-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine /pol/ and whatever is left of 8chan are enraged at this brutal attack against incels


[12-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Breitbart too, of course


[12-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All they have against her is the Pocahontas thing


[12-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully she can run a country better than she can write a textbook though


[12-Oct-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope she kicks biden's ass


[12-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably


[12-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give Mayor Pete a platform so he can run in 2028


[12-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking up election hypotheticals and one was "What if a massive attack on Michigan's electrical grid leads to irregularities?"


[12-Oct-19 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So


[12-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
We've been over it like five times


[12-Oct-19 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In regards to Taiwan


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's little else to say on the matter other than I think it's incredibly distasteful that many Americans say they don't want to talk politics because it upsets them, recoiling away from the idea that anything is wrong


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is there any possible future situation in which the PRC could recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, a looooot of people are liberal, but reading on what Trump or China are doing upsets them


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they refuse to read up on it


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and giv dismissive answers that it doesn't concern them


[12-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that Blizzard is acting fine


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
China will eventually go to war with Taiwan


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US must inevitably go to war with China


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
It's distasteful that americans think discussing politics is taboo at all


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's war with China or cede Taiwan to China.


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, China (mainland) could recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state in exchange for finally being able to trade with Taipei


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of how we end up in this position, really


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They've brainwashed their population


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like Iran


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And just, you know, peacefully integrating Taiwan into their sphere of influence


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politics is taboo so people get upset to discover how different it is vs. what they actually think.


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That will not happen.


[12-Oct-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
China will invade Taiwan.


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Invading Taiwan risks a response from the US


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We will either bakk down or fight.


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It depends on who is in charge at the time.


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on whether Taiwan signed the latest arms purchase already or not


[12-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they did, welp


[12-Oct-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it's pending, ALL OUT WAR, FIRE FROM HEAVEN, etc.


[12-Oct-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think the chinese leadership, while capitalist and evil, is at least the smarter kind of capitalist, they won't risk war in exchange for little Taiwan


[12-Oct-19 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They could make negotiations with the US and Taipei for recongizing, say, their claim over the Spratley islands tho


[12-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The current situation with Taiwan is hilarious


[12-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because _everyone_ is acting like a coward bitch about it


[12-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
China won't make any effective moves, the rest of the world won't talk about it


[12-Oct-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just allow them their sovereignty already, Xi, there's almost nothing to lose


[12-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
national pride


[12-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chinese national pride dwarfs even british national pride


[12-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[12-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Halle.


[12-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Christchurch.


[12-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
Christchurch still relevant?


[12-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus Christ the person killed 50 people


[12-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
fate has a weird sence of humor


[12-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People bitch about bike locks and milkshakes and burnt hats


[12-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone fucking murdered 50 people and streamed it


[12-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even Whataboutism, it's perspective


[12-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh nooooo


[12-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Retard xenophobes and assholes got bullied when they went to a bullying rally :<


[12-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck, you guys, democracy is over


[12-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to pack it up


[12-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
50 people - that's the NZ incident, right?


[12-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The incident where a channer livestreamed running around shooting unarmed children, yes


[12-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, random people got like, punched by other random people


[12-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
for political reasons


[12-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this matters how or why?


[12-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if the intent is to say the left is more violent, then Its' line of talking turns that to ash.


[12-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect that is the intent.


[12-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ever since Gandhi became popular among the left for saying people should be equal and that nonviolence is the way to go, any shred of violence gets used to say that we shouldn't make people equal


[12-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew ghandi


[12-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking racist nationalist piece of shit if there ever was one


[12-Oct-19 02:15 AM] I am Unknown#1116
Dude was nuts. Slept naked next to underage girls.


[12-Oct-19 02:15 AM] I am Unknown#1116
Achieved a great deal, but some of his stuff is crazy.


[12-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
>implying any of this is relevant to what a random channer thinks


[12-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is that Gandhi became an icon because he had views that involved nonviolence to fight colonialism


[12-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
random channers should be dragged out into the street, castrated, and their thumbs cut off


[12-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that this is then accepted by the right to sully the left by saying they aren't doing what Gandhi would approve of


[12-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's just my opinion


[12-Oct-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/devindwyer/status/1182789831874826242?s=17

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[12-Oct-19 02:17 AM] I am Unknown#1116
People forget that the implicit threat of violence / ability to cause violence is a huge part in what made the negotiations of the non-violent side so much more effective. Britain had to deal either with Gandhi or the groups who were armed and revolting.

Same way that MLK ended up becoming a touchstone for the nonviolent movement in the US, because the alternative was trying to fight / negotiate with Malcolm X and the Black Panthers.


[12-Oct-19 02:18 AM] I am Unknown#1116
Speak softly and carry a big stick, y'all.


[12-Oct-19 02:18 AM] I am Unknown#1116
Please note that I'm not advocating for violence, just making an observation about these two movements.


[12-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament

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A statement from J. Allen Brack.
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[12-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Mikey#7286
blizzard made a statement


[12-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
also scrolling a bit up, almost nothing is worth open warfare between huge countries right now.


[12-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
not when nukes are still on the table, as well as other things


[12-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless their statement is "we suck and are giving this guy and the two interviewers a million dollars and FREE HONG KONG", then they can fuck off


[12-Oct-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[12-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll waffle and dance around the issue and then diplomats come to some agreement


[12-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
tl;dr


[12-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
they reduced the casters and blitzchung to 6 months


[12-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Mikey#7286
and blitzchung is receiving his prize money


[12-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
as long as blizzard gets banned from china, I'm happy


[12-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457

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[12-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[12-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
they won't be.


[12-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
I couldn't copy/paste to discord because it was too many characters


[12-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
oh, they might be


[12-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
since they're giving the dude his prize money


[12-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
if they will, they'll die, and that would be a massive disappointment.


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
um, no they won't


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
I _think_ this move is at least tentatively approved.


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah they will.


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't make any sense, they're still making tons of money


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
look up the list of their common projects.


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
china was only 5% of their profits


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
last year


[12-Oct-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They'll live, they jsut won;t be china rich


[12-Oct-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if thye lsot the market in south korea...


[12-Oct-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then shit might hit the fan for them somewhat


[12-Oct-19 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then most of their customers are european and american


[12-Oct-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what they really need to watch their back over is activision stabbing them in it


[12-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
Blizzard isn't independant, not for a while. And I don't think actual Blizzard studios is the one making the decision here.


[12-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Opponent#3498
so backstab is highly unlikely


[12-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Opponent#3498
it could be Blizzard's call to do something right the fuq now originally. But not now.


[12-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
seriously though. The guy set them up massively. You don't do shit like this if you want to keep your job and rep.


[12-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
the smart man would take the money, and then started preaching his shit on Twitter or smth


[12-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
he'd maybe get a reprimand, but achived pretty much the same with much less hurt on his employers


[12-Oct-19 02:51 AM] I am Unknown#1116
I'd love for the "Mei supports Hong Kong" thing to take off.


[12-Oct-19 02:52 AM] I am Unknown#1116
Because that would just be the ultimate "fuck you" to blizzard.


[12-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, except that they're the last people who deserves a 'fuck you'


[12-Oct-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've kinda been screwing their customers for years now


[12-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
so did everyone.


[12-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
literally everyone.


[12-Oct-19 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, there needs to kinda be that surgence of fuck you or else it;s going to keep happening


[12-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah but not like this. The discourse should be 'fuck you and your predatory X (lootboxes, monetisation, what the fuck ever)' not 'you betray America'


[12-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
this doesn't fix any of the issues. That's my problem. Making them cave in is... I suppose it feels good, the guy got the money and justice has been served


[12-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
but China still has half the world in a chokehold and AAA titles still continue their shit


[12-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the worst of both worlds as it is now


[12-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
you know what would be hillarious?


[12-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
'China is abusive, boycott Epic Store' :D


[12-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
god I wish that was a thing


[12-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Pirill#4680
Even if the Blizzard boycott screws them over and people rejoice over the results, they're just a symptom of the Chinese market and influence that was unlucky enough to get caught out. Every other company that has an interest over there is still going to do the exact same thing.


[12-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Pirill#4680
If not worse, with Blizz as a negative example in this hypothetical future, to avoid ending up like that.

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[12-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh, image searching for Overwatch Mei is already 30% porn anyway


[12-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's the symptoms of late-stage capitalism


[12-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
there's nowhere left to expand except china


[12-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's still that island of inbred fucksticks near India


[12-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
they don't have any money to buy stuff with


[12-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
capitalism has to keep expanding, or else it dies


[12-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
china is the last place to expand, so companies are desperately trying to get into that market, but china holds access hostage


[12-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their very existence provides the opportunity for extreme sports/tourism


[12-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
either agree with their shitty censorship and totalitarian government, or you don't get access


[12-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow just split it in half


[12-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Make both posts and pin them


[12-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Sentinelese killed a missionary recently so @Teaspoon


[12-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, people aren't yet desperate enough to expand there I'd imagine


[12-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing Satan's work, there.


[12-Oct-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the island that kills outsiders?


[12-Oct-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't think they're interested in your capitalism bullshit


[12-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they just don't know it yet.


[12-Oct-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no expansion to be had there, the natives have made that pretty damned clear


[12-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
don't worry they'll be getting a mcdonalds soon

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[12-Oct-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, and it will be torched to the ground and everyone inside will be murdered swiftly with spears


[12-Oct-19 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provided anyone actually makes it inside


[12-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no no. you got it wrong. the wonders of  capitalism will make the natives all low wage workers serving up burgers and fries while they build a walmart further down the beach

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[12-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but hey surviving deadly spears while in drive through could be a great tourist attraction. "Come visit the wild and mysterious island where the natives are so savage and brave."


[12-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
just gotta get the sales pitch right. This is a solid start.


[12-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[12-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
That'll do I suppose


[12-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
> **The 14 points of Facism:**
1 **Cult of tradition.** “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
> *MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

2 **The rejection of modernism.** “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
> Climate change is a Chinese hoax! The body is a battery with limited energy! Windmills cause cancer!

3 **The cult of action for action’s sake.** “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
> Lock her up! Build the wall! Deport them all! Alligators! Shoot em in the leg!

4 **Disagreement is treason**. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
> Adam Shiff is a traitor!

5 **Fear of difference.** “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
> They aren't sending their best folks. Rapists, murderer's.

6 **Appeal to social frustration.** “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
> Trans people are in your bathrooms, molesting your kids! The Coloured folks are taking all the good colleges!

7 **The obsession with a plot.** “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”
> An Invasion of Brown murders!


[12-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
8 **The enemy is both strong and weak.** “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
> The Democrats are idiots!/Help it's a deepstate coup!

9 **Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy.** “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
> The Iran deal was the worst Deal of all time

10 **Contempt for the weak.** “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
> I prefer war heroes that werent POW's

11 **Everybody is educated to become a hero.** “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
> X is a great very smart man, totally qualified for the job (until he isn't useful).

12 **Machismo and weaponry.** “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
> Grab em by the pussy

13 **Selective populism.** “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
> Republicans are the only true Americans

14 **Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak.** “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
> Alternative facts


[12-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[12-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[12-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I did the thing

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[12-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
actually reading this, I'm not sure it's THE 14 fascist points


[12-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
cause those included suppression of art, something about church...


[12-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html


[12-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and, honestly, the ones on the link make more sense than the stuff above...


[12-Oct-19 04:25 AM] illumnious#7938

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[12-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-fingerprints-are-all-over-trumps-ukraine-whistleblower-scandal

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[12-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
> Several of the reported objectives of President Donald Trump, his administration officials, and his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, would benefit the Kremlin and not the United States or its national security. Namely, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky was urged to make a deal with Putin, pressured “to play ball” with respect to providing or manufacturing compromising materials about Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden, and essentially tasked with concocting “the evidence” to disprove the well-established fact that the Democratic National Committee server was hacked by Russian intelligence agents in 2016.


[12-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://euobserver.com/foreign/146242

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EU diplomats stood alone against the US and Russia on Syria at the UN on Thursday, painting a bleak picture of transatlantic relations.
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[12-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
> EU envoys to the UN Security Council (UNSC), from Belgium, Estonia, France, Germany, Poland, and the UK spoke to press in New York after the US and Russia blocked an EU-drafted UN resolution on the conflict.


[12-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
US and russia are allying on the issue in syria


[12-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
belgium, estonia, france, germany, poland, and the UK tried to condemn turkey's operation in syria


[12-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
the US and russia vetoed the condemnation


[12-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, it does precisely nothing anyway. Russia proved time and time again you can just ignore whatever international resolution or court ruling might be coming your way, with little reprecussion


[12-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
this was turkey, not russia


[12-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
turkey is conducting a massive military operation in syria to kill the kurds


[12-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
US forces in the area have specifically been ordered not to support the kurds


[12-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
and the only person in the US who has the power to make a unilateral command like that is the president


[12-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Told you guys this was commanded by Russia


[12-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
Russia did it before.


[12-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia wanted to drop the Kurds like a hot potato


[12-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leaving them active would've interfered with Russia's grip on Syria


[12-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's better to cause chaos with ISIS and Turkey.


[12-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tRfUfu-_78

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[12-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-oath-keepers-providing-volunteer-security-at-trumps-minneapolis-rally-are-itching-for-a-civil-war

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The Oath Keepers Providing Volunteer Security at Trump’s Minneap...
Stewart Rhodes is ready to protect Trump, no matter what, and to fight a HOT war.
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[12-Oct-19 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Oct-19 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking lit ngl


[12-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Mikey#7286
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/10/11/federal-judges-rule-against-trump-in-3-cases-on-executive-powers/23834681/

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President Trump suffered three defeats on Friday in major court rulings that address the limits of his executive authority.
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[12-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie @Itsthinking @Teaspoon, I looked into that hat burning thing, it turns out that they weren't hats being ripped off of trump supporter heads and burned, they were hats brought separately and then burned


[12-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
that original video linked a few hours ago made it sound like that trump supporters were attacked and had their hats stolen


[12-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
probably to maximize reactionary outrage


[12-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta generate more outrage


[12-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals getting gay-married and burning your hats.


[12-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
the signs are revealed


[12-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
the end is nigh.


[12-Oct-19 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/SGBluebell/status/1182817588147052544

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https://twitter.com/SGBluebell/status/1182817588147052544
i have been keeping quiet out of fear but as an english major and chinese speaker i feel like i really need to point this out since i don't know how many ppl will know enough to explain

the blizzard post really seems like it was written by a chinese (non-native EN) speaker
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[12-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Figures, it sounded very corporate nullspeak.


[12-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
THINK GLOBALLY all over the place.


[12-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/631851667977011200/snapmU2.png

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[12-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
I don't remember where I got this from, but yeah


[12-Oct-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament

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Regarding Last Weekend’s Hearthstone Grandmasters Tournament
An update on the Hearthstone Grandmasters APAC competitive ruling.
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[12-Oct-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
``With regard to the casters, remember their purpose is to keep the event focused on the tournament. That didn’t happen here, and we are setting their suspension to six months as well.``


[12-Oct-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🆒


[12-Oct-19 06:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Moving forward, we will continue to apply tournament rules to ensure our official broadcasts remain focused on the game and are not a platform for divisive social or political views.
> One of our goals at Blizzard is to make sure that every player, everywhere in the world, regardless of political views, religious beliefs, race, gender, or any other consideration always feels safe and welcome both competing in and playing our games.


[12-Oct-19 06:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, yeah, sure


[12-Oct-19 06:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> regardless of political views,


[12-Oct-19 06:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[12-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/SGBluebell/status/1182817588147052544

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i have been keeping quiet out of fear but as an english major and chinese speaker i feel like i really need to point this out since i don't know how many ppl will know enough to explain

the blizzard post really seems like it was written by a chinese (non-native EN) speaker
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[12-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
byte linked that about an hour ago


[12-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[12-Oct-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/10/11/kevin-mcaleenan-resigns-as-acting-homeland-security-secretary/

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Kevin McAleenan resigns as acting Homeland Security secretary
President Donald Trump said on Friday that acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan was stepping down and a new acting chief of the agency would be named next week. McAleenan became the f…
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[12-Oct-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
what a wild fucking statement


[12-Oct-19 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
"acting head steps down to be replaced by new acting head"


[12-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-11/california-approves-gun-control-red-flag-laws

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After mass shootings, California sets new limits on gun buyers and...
After a string of mass shootings this year, Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a raft of bills toughening California’s strict gun control laws.
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[12-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
the NRA is reeeing over this, as usual


[12-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
> The measure restricting purchases, Senate Bill 61, prohibits Californians from buying more than one semiautomatic rifle per month and is one of two gun bills by state Sen. Anthony Portantino (D–La Cañada Flintridge). It also bans the sale of semiautomatic centerfire rifles to people younger than 21, removing a provision of the law that allowed younger people to buy such guns if they have a hunting license.


[12-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-law-in-california-signed-by-governor-allows-employers-co-workers-and-teachers-to-seek-gun-violence-restraining/

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California adopts broadest U.S. rules for seizing guns
The law, signed by Governor Gavin Newsom Friday, is the broadest gun seizure legislation to be passed in the country
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[12-Oct-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
> California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a law that will make the state the first to allow employers, coworkers and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders against other people. The bill was signed Friday by Newsom but had been vetoed twice by former governor Jerry Brown; both are Democrats.


[12-Oct-19 07:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/R1elBgwBu2g

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Real Time with Bill Maher
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New Rule: SCAMerica | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill decries the price gouging and beak-wetting that drives up the cost...
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[12-Oct-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/california-law-bans-profit-private-prisons-including-immigration-detention-centers-n1065176

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California law bans for-profit, private prisons, immigration deten...
"We are joining a national effort, and California is leading this, in which we are going to divest from these abusive systems," said an immigration advocate.
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[12-Oct-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I think I saw my first dogwhistle in the wild


[12-Oct-19 07:45 AM] byte[]#2610
An actual dog whistle?


[12-Oct-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
no


[12-Oct-19 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
like a political dogwhistle


[12-Oct-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
I was behind a newer model honda civic with a US flag sticker on it yesterday, but the flag had a light blue line down the center white stripe, like it was marked with a dry erase pen


[12-Oct-19 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_blue_line

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Thin blue line
The "Thin blue line" is a phrase that refers figuratively to the position of police in society as the force which holds back chaos, allowing order and civilization to thrive.
The term began as an allusion to the famous "Thin Red Line", when a British regiment held off a Russi...
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[12-Oct-19 07:49 AM] byte[]#2610
fat blue turds


[12-Oct-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457

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[12-Oct-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
like this


[12-Oct-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
tbh if you didn't know what the thin blue line was and you were a patriotic type, you'd probably be mad about the blue line defacing the flag lol


[12-Oct-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/7vtkmn8rh0s31.jpg

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[12-Oct-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1182741495515889664

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@mustbecara @darth @mcbc @JasonSCampbell @GreatDismal https://t.co/GteklJ1H59
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[12-Oct-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1182745332695945216

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@mustbecara @darth @mcbc @JasonSCampbell @GreatDismal Here’s a better one https://t.co/r3kMw8ZXno
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[12-Oct-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/IXaEOLY.gif

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[12-Oct-19 08:03 AM] Crow#5457
nut shapiro


[12-Oct-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw https://www.pcgamer.com/hearthstone-card-art-changes/

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Blizzard says Hearthstone card art changes have nothing to do with...
The old card art was a little too heavy on the sex and violence.
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[12-Oct-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that Hearthstone has commonly had different card art specifically for China


[12-Oct-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
(especially for anything with skeletons)


[12-Oct-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It came 6 months after China made things stricter on blood etc.


[12-Oct-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And 4 months after they had reduced Jaina's cleavage


[12-Oct-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
wait, so they got rid of the succubus card and replaced it with the felstalker card?


[12-Oct-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[12-Oct-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
succubi are still in WoW


[12-Oct-19 08:15 AM] Treascair#7785
never mind harpies...


[12-Oct-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ZwyA7QaM6ksYNmEzMWHdD6.jpg

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[12-Oct-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
you can barely even see the change on eviscerate


[12-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's presumed that this was done to make it easier to deal with the Chinese client compliance


[12-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they already hav different card art for China


[12-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but these were very prominent cards in the original set and thus would be seen in promo material


[12-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to how Jaina is basically the face of Hearthstone, with her boobs.


[12-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
China hates boobs.


[12-Oct-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727

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Exclusive: Turkey attacks US special forces in Syria, apparently b...
President Trump's announced pullout of U.S. troops from Syria prompted an attack by Turkey on Syrian Kurds. U.S. special forces were shelled so heavily, they considered firing back.
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[12-Oct-19 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Instead of returning fire, the Special Forces withdrew once the shelling had ceased. Newsweek previously reported Wednesday that the current rules of engagement for U.S. forces continue to be centered around self-defense and that no order has been issued by the Pentagon for a complete withdrawal from Syria.


[12-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/WillikinWolf/status/1182285421398462464

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Very serious and normal adults.
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[12-Oct-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/10/ben-shapiro-threatens-beto-orourke-with-gun-violence-because-the-gays/

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Michael Stone
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Ben Shapiro Threatens Beto O’Rourke With Gun Violence Because Th...
Frightened little man needs a gun: Ben Shapiro, a man of diminutive intellect and character, threatens presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke with gun violence because gays are scary.
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[12-Oct-19 01:33 PM] Opponent#3498
at least some people see him for who he is. Refreshing.


[12-Oct-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also threatened to shoot up a school! truly a smrt man


[12-Oct-19 03:15 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I wonder why there was such a massive hate campaign against Hilary Clinton


[12-Oct-19 03:18 PM] Litrojia#0612
🇷🇺 in part


[12-Oct-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia, the gop push, the fact that she had no platform and her campaign was basically "I have a vagina vote for me or go to hell because i gave up the last election for obama so i'm owed this"


[12-Oct-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Her economic plan was "i;m gonna talk to my friends on wall street"


[12-Oct-19 03:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It just saddens me that we forsaked Hillary for a nasty old bigot named Trump


[12-Oct-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we didnt forsake her so much as she campaigned to all the big states and didnt go to any of the states needed for an electoral college win


[12-Oct-19 03:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard the green party was stealing votes from Hillary


[12-Oct-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she really only did stick to big cities like new york and los angelos


[12-Oct-19 03:22 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The republican party threw in their hat with Trump because Trump was getting a lot of votes


[12-Oct-19 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, trump knows how to play to a republican audience, it didnt gain him the popular vote but it got him the small votes needed to play to the elctoral college rather than the popular vote


[12-Oct-19 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary won the popular vote entirely


[12-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I wish Hillary would have won, people are treating her like she is a dirty word online I can't tell you how many times I heard "I did vote for Hiliary" as an opening line in a comment


[12-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
it shows how well Russia and the GOP posioned the well


[12-Oct-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she kinda poisoned her own well a few times during her campaign


[12-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
how?


[12-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump slept with a porn star


[12-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Sally Moon#4922
refuses to release his tax returns


[12-Oct-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She literally hired a speaker to tell women that if they didnt stand by her, they would all burn in hell


[12-Oct-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
women didnt particularly like this message


[12-Oct-19 03:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
link?


[12-Oct-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give me a sec it might take a moment


[12-Oct-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msMhG_FUnXE

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USA: "Special place in hell" for women who don't help Clinton - Ma...
Former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright introduced Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on Saturda...
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[12-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Sally Moon#4922
RT...


[12-Oct-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a clip not an article


[12-Oct-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s no narrator


[12-Oct-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s entirely the moment as it happened


[12-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't trust RT at all sorry


[12-Oct-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcfvkwwEJl8

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CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcfvkwwEJl8
Women to back Clinton, avoid "special place in Hell...
The 'Inside Politics' panel on the offbeat get out the vote pitches from Clinton supporters like Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem.
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[12-Oct-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont know if this has the clip in it but here;s cnn


[12-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Sally Moon#4922
thank you


[12-Oct-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope no clip ion it


[12-Oct-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just news hosts chatting


[12-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm fine with that


[12-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Sally Moon#4922
still Hillary got the popular vote regardless


[12-Oct-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you dont want the actuall clip of her saying this, but you;re good with news hosts just chatting?


[12-Oct-19 03:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
If she did that, it was her mistake


[12-Oct-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump basically played to the fear of the teap party voters, which is how he won the electoral college


[12-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The Green Party gets my ire


[12-Oct-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why?


[12-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Sally Moon#4922
they knew they were never going to win and yet the leeched votes off the democrats.


[12-Oct-19 03:39 PM] Sally Moon#4922
This isn't Canada


[12-Oct-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you;re mad because people voted of their own free will for the green party?


[12-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Voters didn't take the election seriously.


[12-Oct-19 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i took it very seriously and jill stein was actually out there trying to do things liek stop an oil pipeline from being built through native territory


[12-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
But we all knew she was never going to win, Now we have a man who could careless about the environment he is trying to appeal the water protection bill


[12-Oct-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wasnt the green parties fault trump won, it was the fact that hillary didnt give any shits what so ever and only campaigned to wealthy locations


[12-Oct-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want to win elections you have to campaign to the rural voters


[12-Oct-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which hillary did not at all do


[12-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It is the green party's fault for leeching votes...by splintering the Democratic party they made it easier for Trump to win


[12-Oct-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... the people were splintered over bernie sanders and the dnc trying to throw him under the bus


[12-Oct-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anything you shoudl blame the stupid people who voted republican to spite hillary


[12-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The Republicans knew it was better to unite the party rather than have it splintered so they stood by Trump it was the only way to beat Hiliary


[12-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
This is why I dislike third parties


[12-Oct-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The republicans tried several times to actually throw trump under a bus as well, but he campaigned to the right people to stay in the running and played up their fears of immigrants and gun control


[12-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Sally Moon#4922
He did


[12-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Now I'm watching my country turn slowly into Russia


[12-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Sally Moon#4922
it breaks my heart


[12-Oct-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Russia was going to do this shit whether or not hillary won, they still had a republican majority in the congress and house for awhile to bribe,especially mitch mcconnell


[12-Oct-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would have just told republicans to just keep being the party of no


[12-Oct-19 03:54 PM] Sally Moon#4922
what happen to the Republican party :sad:


[12-Oct-19 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money, power, greed, coporations


[12-Oct-19 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism, neo liberals


[12-Oct-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
bruh wtf are you talking about


[12-Oct-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton was an assured win for the entire post-primary election season


[12-Oct-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
and voters did in fact take the election seriously, by electing a joke


[12-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
neo liberals?


[12-Oct-19 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
relating to or denoting a modified form of liberalism tending to favor free-market capitalism.


[12-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is against free market


[12-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
he tore up NAFTA


[12-Oct-19 03:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Trump is not, but he is managed by Neolibs


[12-Oct-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he tore up nafta because mexico displeased him


[12-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
what...


[12-Oct-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wanted to impose tariffs on mexico but nafta prevented that


[12-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump pulled a Hitler, its so scary how similar ther rise to power is


[12-Oct-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump uses tariffs as leverage despite thme not working how he thinks they work. So to try and solve the immigration thing, he tried to use tariffs to force mexico's hand and then nafta got int he way so he tried to get rid of it


[12-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump lost 6 billion dollars so he shouldn't be allowed to dictate economic policy


[12-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I can't understand Trump supporters


[12-Oct-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fear and loathing is most of their political policy now. But i kind of got it during the 2016 election. They were tired of the staus quo and wanted change, the problem is they didnt actually know what they wanted so they clung to the strongest looking source of it they could grasp. Then he played to their fear and it helped solidify his grasp. I don;t understand current trump supporters though

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[12-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Your comment makes my blood run cold, I wish you were wrong but you nailed it. And that is just painful to read


[12-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49970267

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Brexit deal essentially impossible - No 10 source
The source says Germany's Angela Merkel was highly pessimistic in a call with Boris Johnson, but the EU's top official hits back.
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[12-Oct-19 04:56 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Oct-19 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/vdcnsy/status/1183037855779753992

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https://twitter.com/vdcnsy/status/1183037855779753992
Warning! Graphic Content
Video shows pro-Turkish militias carrying out field executions of civilians arrested on the road M4 today in NE #Syria.
P.S. We can't share the video here due to Twitter restrictions.
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[12-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Thursday 31 October - Date by which the UK is due to leave the EU, with or without a withdrawal agreement


[12-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Things That Haven't Happened Yet:
- Flint getting water
- Brexit


[12-Oct-19 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 31st of october in what year?


[12-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Presumably this year? Article doesn't explicitly state it


[12-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wasn't this thing supposed to happen in fuckin' *June*


[12-Oct-19 06:01 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Oct-19 06:01 PM] ononim#8141
Graphic content


[12-Oct-19 06:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you haven't read slakmehl's comment yet you probably should <https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dfz6ta/megathread_two_giuliani_associates_tied_to/f36yyll/>


[12-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie I've been thinking about what we've talked about yesterday. About # metoo, juvenile justice, guilty sex offender until proven innocent and so on, all this horrific stuff, being actually conservative effort, and not liberal. Could you give me some external links to read up on it?


[12-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I know you believe it to be so, but, while I understood what you were saying, it still makes little sense to me.


[12-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
On race, https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/diversity-inclusion/articles/2019/summer2019-intersection-of-race-and-rape/

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The Intersection of Race and Rape Viewed through the Prism of a Mo...
An exploration of the historical practice of exploiting and violating the bodies of African American women with impunity and how African American defendants accused of raping white women are treated differently under the law.
https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba-cms-dotorg/aba-default-feature-img.jpg


[12-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
On gender stereotypes relating to juveniles (this is not really a conservative thing, but important to note) https://racism.org/articles/intersectionality/gender/2664-metoo-statutory-rape-laws


[12-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
On how the whole thing can be twisted from good intentions, relating to that recalled California judge https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/how-californias-new-rape-law-could-be-a-step-backward-250347/

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How California's New Rape Law Could Be a Step Backward
Passed in reaction to Stanford rapist Brock Turner’s short jail sentence, this law could actually hurt the people its advocates are trying to protect
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-245358-brock-turner-judge-take-him-at-his-word-c777c405-9bed-4a56-b306-1e4bd4c3a5cf.jpg


[12-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
rape thing isn't about the race though anymore, is it. Or is it? Maybe I'm missing the context again MASSIVELY. That's probably was the core point of my confusion. I assumed everyone, whites included, was affected by this. Excluding maybe top 1-2%.


[12-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
also, thank you. I'll get on with reading.


[12-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racism hasn't just gone away, and one thing you'll notice a lot in SJUW circles is there'll be a bunch of white women and like one white guy, with a big proclamation of LOOK HOW DIVERSE WE ARE


[12-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whites are *included* in the lower class, but things aren't equal across classes.


[12-Oct-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And stereotypes and massive wealth inertia keep it that way.


[12-Oct-19 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, look at the "public charge" thing that federal judges just put a temporary block on


[12-Oct-19 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
> Guidelines in use since 1999 refer to a “public charge” as someone primarily dependent on cash assistance, income maintenance or government support.
> Under the new rules, the Department of Homeland Security has redefined a public charge as someone who is “more likely than not” to receive public benefits for more than 12 months within a 36-month period. If someone uses two benefits, that is counted as two months. And the definition has been broadened to include Medicaid, housing assistance and food assistance under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP.
> Factors like the immigrant’s age, employment status and English-language ability would also be looked at to determine whether they could potentially become public burdens at any point in the future.


[12-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
public charge


[12-Oct-19 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
right uh


[12-Oct-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
A charge is like, a person that you must care for, whereas burden is more general.


[12-Oct-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your children would be charges.


[12-Oct-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
On you.


[12-Oct-19 07:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think I mixed that up with the last sentence in what I copied


[12-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very rarely-used term anymore.


[12-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've only come across it once before and it was in writing that I sadly came on a few weeks too late to correct.


[12-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protip: Always hav at least one native speaker of English for writing things in English.


[12-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Blizzard could learn from this...)


[12-Oct-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I've used charge before but it is antiquated


[12-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. For Blizzard it's like w/e. Either it's fake and it's w/e, or it's true and the chinese are not (so far) throwing them under the bus. Either way suits me. This needs to die down, before things get worse for everyone.


[12-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
...and hopefully, once the government sorts itself out, they can take a look at what 'free market' means in this day and age.


[12-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465518-warren-targets-facebook-fact-check-policy-in-new-ad-claiming-zuckerburg

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Warren targets Facebook with ad claiming Zuckerberg supports Trump
"If Senator Warren wants to say things she knows to be untrue, we believe Facebook should not be in the position of censoring that speech," a spokesperson says.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/warrenelizabeth_zuckerbergmark_101219getty.jpg


[12-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zucc admitting he dreads Warren being elected made her my top choice.


[12-Oct-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, she;s got my vote


[12-Oct-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyone who can actually instill fear in a robot deserves it


[12-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
not bad. 👍


[12-Oct-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/11/kansas-middle-school-girl-charged-felony-after-making-finger-guns/3944459002/

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Felony charge for girl, 13, who pointed finger-guns at other stude...
There were previous encounters involving the student that resulted in classmates being "fearful" of her, according to police.
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[12-Oct-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A 13-year-old Kansas student was arrested and charged with a felony after police say she made a gunlike hand gesture at multiple students.

The girl, who attended Westridge Middle School in Overland Park, Kansas, made the gesture at four of her peers and then toward herself on Sept. 18, after being asked which five people she would kill in her class, according to Overland Park Police Chief Frank Donchez. He said the context of this conversation was unclear.


[12-Oct-19 08:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hot-take: The Zucc is only scared on Warren because she's the more acceptable of the establishment media, where as Bernie would be the more radical version of Warren but because he is unacceptable to MSNBC or CNN no one talks about how he wants to bring worker's democracy to the companies of the US.


[12-Oct-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah that's why msot corporations are terrified of her


[12-Oct-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she actually has a real shot at gettign elected, and bringing real change that could cut intotheir abusive practices


[12-Oct-19 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Except Warren doesn't want to bring about Worker's Democracy. Just break up the companies into smaller ones.


[12-Oct-19 08:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
She's not anything but a radlib that'll delay the inevitable, and not fix things.


[12-Oct-19 08:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie's got the footsoldiers of the Union. Warren's just got the same old influencer shitlords and technocratic middle-management.


[12-Oct-19 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm okay with Warren because I believe if Bernie were president, republicans in the senate (even without a majority) would do their best to gridlock and water down his policies as they did with Obama...but Warren might be less distasteful and therefore accomplish anything


[12-Oct-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, they'll do the same. So go all the way and embrace the full and total illumination of bullshit. Then join a union or a federation of unions and organize up.


[12-Oct-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that same thing applies to the election itself. Now, ofc, this could all change if bernie's plan to change his approach to the campaign is to become Warren's running mate...


[12-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That would be better for Bernie


[12-Oct-19 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1182297394475671552

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Congratulations to the government for making some of the best pro-Remain videos I’ve ever seen. They really bring out the utter bone-brained idiocy of Brexit.

We are the only country to declare sanctions on ourselves.
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[12-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/jasemonkey/status/1182347938506387459

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Perhaps a blue background wasn't the best choice for the #GetReadyForBrexit ads. https://t.co/78HyJVSmdy
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[12-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Splitting hairs on Warren/Bernie when both support the PRO Act


[12-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Go ahead and vote for the total ruination of worker's rights because you don't get your Angry Meme Man


[12-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
what is PRO act?


[12-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/lutsenko-unnamed-ukrainian-who-led-plot-oust-yovanovitch-says-official-n1065246

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Lutsenko is unnamed Ukrainian who plotted to oust Marie Yovanovitch
Lutsenko is the Ukrainian official who prosecutors say urged 2 Giuliani associates to push for the ouster of Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_41/3049846/191012-yuriy-lutsenko-cs-851a_ae144c4dff6e04197806ed4b38bd6e50.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[12-Oct-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.uschamber.com/article/pro-act-introduced-house

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PRO Act Introduced in House
On May 2, Democrats on the House Education and Labor Committee rolled out a bill that would radically rewrite American labor law.
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[12-Oct-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s basically a bill that protects workers looking to organize for their rights


[12-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Way more than that


[12-Oct-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and much more


[12-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It basically takes away an amendment that restricted certain things unions can do


[12-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a negative take but it wouldn't be that bad


[12-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not The Onion
Just Fox News

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[12-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
is these ni🅱 🅱 as for real?


[12-Oct-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like how neither of those thumbnails are at all blakc or hispanic


[12-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume thumbnails are the authors


[12-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[12-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
names check out.


[12-Oct-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah well that explains that


[12-Oct-19 10:49 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13844

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Prof: SpongeBob perpetuates 'violent, racist' acts against indigen...
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[12-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's underwater


[12-Oct-19 10:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:wat:


[12-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I like this. When reality makes you wonder if you're reading a satire news outlet.


[12-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I guess everyone is a target nowdays


[12-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This site seems like a totally non-biased source that isn't scraping the bottom of some lost barrel for rage-feeder clickbait


[12-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta pay them bills somehow.


[12-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/465539-rubio-hits-warrens-crude-and-vulgar-response-to-opposition-to-same-sex

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Rubio hits Warren's 'crude' and 'vulgar' response to opposition to...
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) criticized Sen. Elizabeth Warren's (D-Mass.) response to a town hall question about same-sex marriage earlier this week.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/rubiomarco_052119gn_lead.jpg


[12-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Fox News scraps the bottom of the barrel all the time


[12-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I respect street prostitutes and drug peddlers more than I do these sort of "journalists"


[12-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Vividly captures the condescension of elites & their incessant ridicule of Americans with traditional values. It elicits glee among celebrities & blue check brigade. But for the millions sick of being disrespected it elicits support for fighting back, even in a crude or vulgar way."


[12-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rubio rushing to defend the GOP's incel and purtan bases


[12-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She made a fucking joke.


[12-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At the expense of internet tough guys that love to defend their own "jokes"


[12-Oct-19 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. the most delicate snowflakes on the planet


[12-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Trump swears like a sailor nowadays compared to how presidents used to be


[12-Oct-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I missed that


[12-Oct-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
made me laugh


[12-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man imagine how Fox would spin it if Obama said the f word.


[12-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
UNPRESIDENTIAL


[12-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
(when he was in office)


[12-Oct-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
UNPRESIDENTED


[12-Oct-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actual word Trump has accidentally made up and used.


[12-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
and then when he left: DOES OBAMA HAVE GHETTO ROOTS?


[12-Oct-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Fox News is barely even subtly racist


[12-Oct-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It'd probably be more overt


[12-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point the dialogue might as well become "Have sex" and "Dilate" on the debate stage


[12-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/465538-trump-administration-calls-wild-horses-biggest-threat-to-public

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Trump administration calls wild horses biggest threat to public la...
Each one of these problems are of far greater magnitude than issues related to wild horses.
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[13-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465544-gabbard-slams-nytimes-profile-of-her

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Gabbard slams New York Times profile of her
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) slammed The New York Times' feature of her Saturday afternoon.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gabbard.tulsi_.0731.png


[13-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tulsi just go away


[13-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's at 2% and thinks it's rigged lel


[13-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzeYP2v0Us

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viral videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzeYP2v0Us
Underground methane bubbles in Siberia.mp4
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[13-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Projection https://i.redd.it/9nnozbzw85s31.jpg

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[13-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
No puppet


[13-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
You're the puppet


[13-Oct-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I like to read these more like him trying to one up obama by asking "If he's so cool, has he done this yet!?"


[13-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yep, that's legitimately how it makes the most sense


[13-Oct-19 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-to95i7sgw

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Militares vs Policias Ecuador - Police vs Military in Ecuador
🚨 #SOSEcuador 🚨 Es tan la brutal la #Reprensión de la #Policía, que un grupo de militares los enfrentaron en defensa del pueblo. #Paro #Lenin #Moreno #Guayaq...
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[13-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey liberals, if Obama was so good how come there's not an Obama 2?


[13-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
dear muricans


[13-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
if the USA is so great


[13-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Mikey#7286
why isn't there a USA 2?


[13-Oct-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dear muricans, if murica is so great, shut up?


[13-Oct-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2dd925dfb6114e3fbde4a3ef26a5ac67

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Trump backs Giuliani, but some aides wish he would cut ties
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Saturday stood behind personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, one of his highest-profile and most vocal defenders, amid reports that federal prosecutors in the...
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[13-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes I wonder why these people fight so hard


[13-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not like you have a presidential campaign in the sights


[13-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
because if they lose, they go to jail


[13-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
turns out the best way to avoid going to jail is not to break the law


[13-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nick Basilisk (Serpentking789)#1064
SUCK IT, BLIZZARD!!
https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1182674085416800257?s=12

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Good morning, fam. We did it. You absolute mad geniuses.

HK Mei is now on local news in Hong Kong. Overwatch is now a symbol of the rebellion. #FreeHongKong #BoycottBlizzard #BoycottBlizard
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[13-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
was posted yesterday :D


[13-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ChthonicHydra/status/1182680643978907650

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@WilltheOtaku @Grummz I mean, that's the case with all their games. All of their games are about resisting tyranny and self-determination. This is why this is such an incredible betrayal. We're not mad at them for violating our beliefs, we're enraged because they betrayed ...
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[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
> I mean, that's the case with all their games. All of their games are about resisting tyranny and self-determination. This is why this is such an incredible betrayal. We're not mad at them for violating our beliefs, we're enraged because they betrayed their own.


[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next expansion'll be like


[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
well, WoW was never about it, even if they tried oh so hard to force it down player's throats in later years. Neither was SC


[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anduin is like Garrosh was


[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
neither was Diablo


[13-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and whoever's leading the horde will agree it's better not to fight as he genocides some elves


[13-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's like ehhhhhh


[13-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
newfag detected


[13-Oct-19 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
hell, even OW is lowkey about struggle being ultimately pointless and self-destructive.


[13-Oct-19 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
at least before it became SJW central


[13-Oct-19 04:32 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-officer-shooting-white-fort-worth-police-officer-fatally-shoots-black-woman-in-her-own-home-today-2019-10-12/?

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Fort Worth police officer fatally shoots woman in her own home
Atatiana Jefferson, a black woman, was fatally shot by a white officer, who has since been placed on administrative leave
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[13-Oct-19 04:33 AM] ononim#8141
> A Fort Worth police officer shot and killed a woman inside her own home early Saturday morning, CBS Dallas-Fort Worth reports. Just before 2:30 a.m., police responded to a welfare call in the Hillside Morningside neighborhood, where the front door to a residence was reported open.
> When officers arrived, they searched the perimeter of the house and saw a person standing inside the residence, near a window.


[13-Oct-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
here we go again


[13-Oct-19 04:34 AM] ononim#8141
>black person in home, even tho the call is nothing violent, must be dangerous criminal


[13-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, let's just ignore the other 99.9% of murders that don't involve a cop or white on black. Those are boring, we gotta make it political.


[13-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Opponent#3498
byte summed up what I thought when I saw this perfectly.


[13-Oct-19 04:35 AM] ononim#8141
Excuse me, we're talking specifically about the case where police officer answer non violent call, gone to hte place, seen a black person in the house and first thing they do is shoot them


[13-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
so the police is allowed to do that. By common consent if not regulation. And this is breaking news how?


[13-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because someone was murdered...


[13-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That should be a big deal


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
someone gets murdered every day. Many someones.


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
sorry, I can't be bothered to care overmuch.


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
the police are overstepping their bounds


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:wow:


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
and have been for decades


[13-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then you may want to be in some channel for people that don't care about others#


[13-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
could be.


[13-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
the police aren't (and should never be) allowed to shoot people for no reason


[13-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
yet somehow they are. 'On suspicion of' things.


[13-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, that should not be happening.


[13-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's statistical norm for US now.


[13-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I stand corrected.


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it might be the statistical norm everywhere. US simply is the loudest about it.


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
to the best of my knowledge, it's not the norm here. But, well, we have many other shortcomings in the system.


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It should never have gotten to be like that in the first place. it is not acceptable.


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
no, this is only really a thing in ultra corrupt third world countries and the US


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
"lol it's normalized at this point, therefore is right" is the most defeatist statement ever, lmao.


[13-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
well the sob stories clearly do not work.


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
if they did, this would have stopped by now.


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They work


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
clearly something else is needed. What? Who knows, don't expect any help from the government...


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If people see thwm


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
things are changing now though


[13-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
a cop just got convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison


[13-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
for shooting someone in their own home


[13-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem is they don't appear on FOX NEWS or the FB feeds of moroms


[13-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
and two black witnesses who testified against the cop were killed/kicked out of their job for daring to testify against a white cop


[13-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The killed one seems to have been unrelated


[13-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
need to wait for it to be investigated a bit more, but yeah, it's starting to look like he wasn't actually killed in retaliation


[13-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
still, the other witness (who didn't even give critical evidence) was kicked out of her job because people found out who she was and spam called her company to say she was an extremist


[13-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
and the company, instead of properly investigating, just promptly dropped her like a hot potato


[13-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's a more broad problem of how easy it is to smear someone out of a job or out of a life. It's pretty damn easy, if the stories are anything to go by.


[13-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
and took her credentials away from her, so she basically wasted years of her life getting experience that is no longer worth a damn


[13-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk spot-on btw. Defeatist is how I feel most of the time lately.


[13-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
btw, this situation, do X, anger someone, get smeared and lose everything, that too doesn't happen here. We're getting there, and you can occasionally get things like death threats and so on, but nothing of any significance comes of it. I wonder if things do deteriorate in time though.


[13-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
in first world, everything seems so public yet at the same time so concerned about the image.


[13-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
those two factors mix like oil and fire.


[13-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder how Europe deals with it. Don't hear anything from them too often.


[13-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
european nations have much stronger privacy laws, so you won't really hear about the name of people accused until after a case is over


[13-Oct-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie you've spoken more about outrage culture I think


[13-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, that works.


[13-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
unless they choose to make themselves public


[13-Oct-19 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
627577982906531870


[13-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really about notoriety in the media of court cases.


[13-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida has sunshine laws, but people don't generally go full cancel on Florida Men


[13-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's simply the idea of having a binary bad/good view, combined with wanting to rally everyone


[13-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it comes into place essentially because the rich and powerful are heavily insulated from everything relative to the common man


[13-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Common guy gropes an ass, he could be in jail 3 years


[13-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich guy does it, nothing happens to him


[13-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The frustration results in a growing sense of urgency to rally people


[13-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This often loses sight of what's reasonable, once the mob is formed, it demands extremes.


[13-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
here's what I was looking for @Opponent https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/627577982906531870


[13-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
refutation starts here https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/627603258038419486


[13-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially my argument there is this is actually a direct consequence of human nature in selfishness.


[13-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We readily assault others for actions that we'd giv ourselves a pass for doing.


[13-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Add in projection, wanting to deflect blame for your actions (both internally and externally) by accusing someone else of the same, you end up with witch hunts.


[13-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The internet and a highly unequal justice system just make it proliferate.


[13-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we end up basically with the mob justice of a tribal village.


[13-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except with eyes everywhere, always watching.


[13-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a punishment lottery.


[13-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it'll never quite burn fast enuff to kill itself.


[13-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
ok, that was actually a good read. Thanks @byte


[13-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
and, I swear it's not an veiled insult. I'm pleased to confirm you don't just equate everything to rich vs poor. That was genuinly curious.


[13-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen the problem discussed, but not the consequences and it's potential next steps before.


[13-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially at this point my whole deal is I believe human societal structures to be fundamentally flawed, everything ends up inconsistent and inequal by SES and oppressive. It takes a damn lot to even make things relatively close to equal. We're just too impulsive and irrational and selfish.


[13-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US constitution was a nice attempt, but it's clearly lakking critical power concentration and red tape proliferation safeguards.


[13-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you might say "okay irrational? We'll just form the gov't with intellectuals", but the problem is that most smart people are extremely selfish as well, so they just end up designing rules to benefit them by manipulating everyone else instead of doing what would serve everyone best.


[13-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The net result is no matter whether smart or dumb people are in charge, gov't inherently has a tendency towards oppressive nonsense that furthers inequality.


[13-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to make it so that at every stage, helping mostly yourself doesn't work.


[13-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of an anime I watched where magic suddenly came to the world in a very violent way, and the only group that survived were the intellectuals who banded together and genetically modified humanity to cause humans to literally kill themselves subconsciously with their own magic if they kill another human


[13-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
the intellectuals turned the non-magicals into a sort of mole-like hybrid species so that they could still oppress people


[13-Oct-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/us/ar-15-guns-law-atf-invs/index.html

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A case once touted by ATF and federal prosecutors as a crackdown on an illicit AR-15-style weapons factory near Los Angeles is now seen has having the potential to pave the way to unfettered access to one of the most demonized guns in America.
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[13-Oct-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
> He sold illegal AR-15s. Feds agreed to let him go free to avoid hurting gun control efforts


[13-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
> The guns are sometimes assembled from separately acquired parts. Under federal law, the one regulated individual part of a firearm is what's known as the frame or receiver — a piece that, among other things, provides a housing for the hammer and firing mechanism of a gun.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Though incapable of firing a round, the part is considered a gun in its own right and is subject to the same restrictions as a fully intact firearm. Manufacturers must stamp it with a serial number and licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks on prospective buyers.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
> AR-15s, however, do not have a single receiver that meets that definition. They have both an upper and lower receiver — two parts as opposed to the single part described in the law.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
ah ffs


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
> At issue in Roh's case was whether the law could fairly be interpreted to apply to just the lower receiver of the AR-15, as the ATF has been doing for decades.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I knew this'd happen eventually


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
> To rule otherwise "would sweep aside more than 50 years of the ATF's regulation of AR-15s and other semiautomatic firearms," prosecutors wrote prior to the judge's order.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
didn't realize AR-15s already had it.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah so like, the law was written based on a manufacturing oddity of guns at the time


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
> In July of that year, prosecutors in Northern California abandoned a case against a convicted felon named Alejandro Jimenez after a judge found that the AR-15 lower receiver he was accused of purchasing in an ATF undercover sting did not meet the definition of a receiver under the law.


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because 0 forethought


[13-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's happened before too


[13-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works really well because it creates a single point of failure for gun ownership.


[13-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the moment you make a receiver-less gun, that single point is gone, null point of failure...gun control ceases to exist.


[13-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
basically, they're dropping cases against people blatantly breaking the law because of the threat of a judge ruling that only the top of bottom half of a receiver isn't a receiver under the law


[13-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has to write a new law.


[13-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
they need to put serial numbers on everything gun related imo


[13-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
or at least the main components, not just a single component


[13-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't put serial numbers on springs and metal plates


[13-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many pieces of the gun would not work with numbers stamped on


[13-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only certain parts can be stamped


[13-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and all of them can be replaced in the end by new designs.


[13-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the gun gotcha.


[13-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Serial numbers on bullets and a bullet buyback program


[13-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Caught after 20xx with non-ID bullets? Straight to jail


[13-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note that part of the problem here is that the ATF created its own definition apart from the law


[13-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the judge rules by the law, not ATF standards.


[13-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/scc/about-us/news-archive/2017/future-without-fakes/

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[13-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
I linked an article about it a couple years ago, but basically it allows for a much smaller version of a serial number


[13-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
> The team from Lancaster University and spin-out company Quantum Base will be announcing their new patent in optical technology to read these imperfections at their “Future without Fakes” exhibit at the Royal Society’s Summer Science Exhibition (opens today, 3rd July 2017).


[13-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not practical.


[13-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OuiQvOdINo

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The Royal Society
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A future without fakes - Summer Science Exhibition 2017
The Royal Society Summer Science Exhibition 2017 features 22 exhibits of cutting-edge, hands-on UK science , along with special events and talks. You can mee...
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[13-Oct-19 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
this explains how it works better than the article


[13-Oct-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
but it basically allows you to put a unique pattern that works the same as a serial number on stuff much smaller than before


[13-Oct-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2B00vqD4zI

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Dominic Gelfuso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2B00vqD4zI
Congresswoman Suzan DelBene On Republican Tax Plan
This remarkable line of questioning from Congresswoman Suzan DelBene demonstrates just a few of the ways that the GOP tax plan treats corporations better tha...
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[13-Oct-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the 2017 tax bill removed practically all of the tax-deductible stuff that private citizens had, but allowed corporations to keep their tax-deductible stuff and even added on a couple more things that weren't previously tax-deductible for corporations


[13-Oct-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/3Kc0ImL

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Senator Ted Cruz has arrived in Hong Kong. Please help to witness the situation & bring it back to US Congress
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[13-Oct-19 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably won't amount to much other than to complain about the dems being lefty thus allied with China on the issue during some random debate


[13-Oct-19 07:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next time there's talk about health care, "Let me tell you about this, about this 'socialism' the democrats keep talking about. I was there, in Hong Kong during the riots. I saw First Hand what this 'socialism' is really like. I saw teenagers fighting for their freedom against the tyranny of a socialist oppressor. Taking away American citizens opportunity to choose their own private insurance, tailored to their needs, is the first step towards that communist dystopia."


[13-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/female-kurdish-politician-among-nine-civilians-killed-by-pro-turkey-forces-in-syria-observers-say

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Female Kurdish politician among nine civilians killed by pro-Turke...
Rebels shot at least nine civilians in execution-style killings in Syria, according to Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
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[13-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
thanks trump


[13-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
my mom's finally managed to get through all the mental gymnastics necessary to still accept trump as her glorious cult leader while also viewing the attacks on the kurds negatively


[13-Oct-19 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics/us-syria-meeting-doc/index.html

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READ: The government document of meeting between US and military l...
The commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces told a senior US diplomat, "You are leaving us to be slaughtered," demanding to know whether the US is going to do anything to protect Syrian Kurds as Turkey continues its military operation targeting America's Kurdish...
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[13-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
> He concluded, "There are two forces in Syria that can stop this massacre. The United State and Russia. If you do not want to do this, then we will ask them. I am watching my sons, my brothers, and my families being killed. I have to go elsewhere."


[13-Oct-19 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2019/10/12/gm-strike-update-uaw-pay-increase/3960545002/

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UAW to boost strike pay to $275 per week
The UAW also will allow members to work part-time and receive strike pay as long as they continue picket duties.
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[13-Oct-19 11:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, hold the fuck up


[13-Oct-19 11:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do elementary school kids in the US have to pay for cafeteria food


[13-Oct-19 11:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ


[13-Oct-19 11:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always connected the "Give me your lunch money" type stuff to, like, premium deserts or kids that went to eat at McD's or something


[13-Oct-19 11:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess my parents were on some pre-paid plan back when I went to school, can't really remember paying for anything when I was in a normal school, and after that I was at base/military schools


[13-Oct-19 11:56 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, free food is the first step to communist distopia.


[13-Oct-19 11:57 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, yes, elementary, middle, and high school kids in most places in the US have to pay money for regular lunch items


[13-Oct-19 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[13-Oct-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only exception to this was my middle school which had a free breakfast program


[13-Oct-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that was just cereal in styrafoam bowls


[13-Oct-19 11:58 AM] Crow#5457
and in the elementary/middle/high schools that I went to in california, I had to pay for lunch


[13-Oct-19 11:58 AM] Opponent#3498
the taste of Communism >.<


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, there's free lunches in some places, but they're a lot cheaper quality and with no options


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Books are free though, right?


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember getting books for free


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, for now


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, books are free


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I remember my parents being really fucking pissed off that that is not the case in Spain


[13-Oct-19 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
have to return them at the end of the school year of course, but they were free


[13-Oct-19 12:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where every year they come out with a new version


[13-Oct-19 12:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because apparently maths just updates every year


[13-Oct-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our textbooks were outdated as fuck and only covered history and science cliffnotes


[13-Oct-19 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine history books are like that everywhere


[13-Oct-19 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a lot of history, after all


[13-Oct-19 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt start learning about world war 1 until after high school


[13-Oct-19 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What


[13-Oct-19 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. When I was in school, the country was trying to decide which history to replace the soviet propaganda with :D Was a fun time, that.


[13-Oct-19 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah most of it was the civil war, the civil rights movement, the declaration of independance, the nazis, and the assassination of abraham lincoln


[13-Oct-19 12:02 PM] Opponent#3498
history school books shifted every couple years, as far as I remember


[13-Oct-19 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't anyone question why the nazi stuff happened during wold war 2? Like, there must've been a world war 1, right?


[13-Oct-19 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I guess Star Wars ANH sort of tainted the expectation of starting at 1...


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well, here, the schoolbook stuff was presented as 'they just did it'. They just did.


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think history books changed much in Spain after Franco died


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much that


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Opponent#3498
and ww1 was bare cliffnotes.


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Crow#5457
I remember learning world history in 6th grade, ancient history in 7th grade, american history in 8th grade, american history again (pretty much just a recap) in 9th grade, world history again in 10th grade, and then I was no longer required to take history, so I stopped because it was boring as shit and kept rehashing the same stuff over and over again


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apart from the obvious civil war stuff


[13-Oct-19 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(spanish civil war)


[13-Oct-19 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also covered edison but not tesla but this was way back in like 2007 and below so that may have just not been as big a discussion back then


[13-Oct-19 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't remember if we covered Tesla more than a paragraph or so


[13-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it would've been when I was 14 or so


[13-Oct-19 12:08 PM] Opponent#3498
for us, history was structured as 'general overview' in 5-6, then starting from antiquity to modern times 7-11. Hillariously enough, first two years of universtity also had mandatory useless shit like history and ukraininan language (fuck only knows why, those who wanted to knew it, those who didn't didn't want to), so we got the general rehash meme AGAIN. At least uni history was mostly tied to modern times.


[13-Oct-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"fun" history ended at 16; 17-18 were reserved for WW2, cold war, and "recent history"


[13-Oct-19 12:10 PM] Opponent#3498
although that was the period of the first heavily pro-US president, who birthed many memes, the relevant one being 'the monkey came from the ukraininan', for the heavy revisioning of taught history during his time. So it was an experience.


[13-Oct-19 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though since I studied "humanities", I also had a separate class in ancient and roman history when I was 17


[13-Oct-19 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine shit was pretty weird for east Germans as well


[13-Oct-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Especially Berlin and border areas, where kids from both sides would be mixed in classes


[13-Oct-19 12:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of wish I could get my hands on some of their older history books... Like form the 90ies. Doubt they're published online but who knows.


[13-Oct-19 12:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Mekut_Mallet/status/1182018386424807424

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Today, a leader of the Turkish mercenary group Hamza Brigade used religious extremism to prepare their fighters for battle.
"Muhammad ibn-Maslama rid the Muslims and our Prophet from one of the chiefs of the infidel polytheist Jews."
transcript: https://t.co/XDyWIHwxuZ htt...
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[13-Oct-19 12:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if it's real. Sounds like the muslim version of a crusade.


[13-Oct-19 02:33 PM] byte[]#2610
> Do elementary school kids in the US have to pay for cafeteria food
yes


[13-Oct-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a wonder schools even have water fountains that don't require a quarter to operate


[13-Oct-19 02:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll gate the bathrooms first

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[13-Oct-19 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I can also confirm that WWI was mostly not covered


[13-Oct-19 02:54 PM] byte[]#2610
And it's been so confusing to have this massive hole in the system


[13-Oct-19 04:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1183219054825426944?s=21

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Meanwhile at Trump Tower... https://t.co/Ecd04PXgPk
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[13-Oct-19 04:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1183205715847958528

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Since I was mayor, I have taken on powerful interests to keep housing affordable for working people.

We are going to take that fight to the White House.

As president, I will guarantee housing as a right. https://t.co/FqRUUEemSp
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[13-Oct-19 05:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(context on illumnious' clip: that's from 2014, when 3 angry drunks turned a fire valve on in a stairwell at Trump Tower Chicago 'cause they got cut off at the bar)


[13-Oct-19 05:13 PM] Mikey#7286
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1WS07W

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China's Xi warns attempts to divide China will end in 'shattered b...
Chinese President Xi Jinping warned on Sunday that any attempt to divide China will be crushed, as Beijing faces political challenges in months-long protests in Hong Kong and U.S. criticism over its treatment of Muslim minority groups.
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[13-Oct-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/DishComrade/status/1182854526468083712?s=20

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dirty goddamned Dish (@DishComrade)
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okay cool
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[13-Oct-19 05:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/andrewbritani/status/1183398862456836103?s=21

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https://twitter.com/andrewbritani/status/1183398862456836103?s=21
BREAKING:

Confirmed by TF source. 

All US forces withdrawed from Kobani. 

The SAA is expected to move in.

Next Manbij then Qamishli.
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[13-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah lunch money is retarded


[13-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
kids get sent with quarters and shit to school and it's a massive hassle for everyone involved


[13-Oct-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally schools HAV TO provide lunch anyways, but a lot of them will provide a separate free lunch from the regular lunch, in order to shame kids into paying.


[13-Oct-19 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the regular lunch is priced like a damn restaurant, but made as cheaply as possible.


[13-Oct-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also highly different betwen elementary, middle, and high school.


[13-Oct-19 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
As far as history class goes, my elementary school basically didn't teach it.


[13-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
High school meanwhile focused on the founding of the country and then the closer it got to the modern era, the less detailed things became, except for WWII.


[13-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, tons of shit about abolition of slavery and the civil war, a fair amount about manifest destiny, then straight to great depression, then WWI (pinning the blame for WWII on not involving the losers in treaty negotiations), then WWII, then straight to Vietnam.


[13-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Gilded Age was completely ignored, along with the Korean war (info about the 50s solely centered on how prosperous it was with a postwar boom)


[13-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
60s and 70s were basically taught as HIPPIES VIETNAM CIVIL RIGHTS VIETNAM HIPPIES VIETNAM


[13-Oct-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also pretty much the only history about other countries was stuff necessary to explain the wars.


[13-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which to its credit involved a fair amount of pointing out that Nazi Germany didn't just happen, and that appeasement was a dumb idea.


[13-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, a few wars that were oddly covered were the Mexican-American War and Spanish-American War. Basically the former was "yeah Polk lied and Lincoln called him out, but we won handily" and the latter was "yeah yellow journalism lied and the Maine was probably an accident, but we won handily and practically genocided the Phillippines for a long while for some reason"


[13-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure they were only included to explain territorial acquisitions and show how the US kikks ass etc. etc.


[13-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Opponent#3498
most likely.


[13-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a pretty clear structural setup to make the US look like an amazing force for bringing some FREEDOM.


[13-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Altho it fails to actually establish that US presence brought freedom...and especially on the Phillippines and Manifest Destiny it's pretty clear it didn't.


[13-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think those parts of the curriculum got corrected in recent times by people pointing out they needed more factual accuracy


[13-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the result is like LOOK HOW GOOD WE ARE...AT SLAUGHTERING NATIVES AND DENYING THEM ACCESS TO BASIC NEEDS FOR NO REASON


[13-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a certain logic to it


[13-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Manifest Destiny in History class was especially funny


[13-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
might makes right. We crushed them, we were right.


[13-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
"And the US promised to honor the treaty 'as long as the river flows and the eagle flies'" *uproarious laffter from classroom*


[13-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's a good one :P


[13-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And no, it wasn't done that way, Opponent


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
what I'm saying is, *originally* I think it was like that


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
but people came in later and altered the details the teacher had to put in


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
so instead of going "they deserved it" or whatever


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it went "and this just killed people for no reason..."


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
that honestly makes it even worse.


[13-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is that on the broaaaad overview, things look like the US being a savior, but at every turn, it's pointed out how this was just more stupid shit.


[13-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's kinda how schooling goes in the US


[13-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
They try to brainwash you but everything's so covered in neutral red tape that eventually people slip in the truth


[13-Oct-19 06:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-becomes-first-state-to-ban-sale-of-new-fur-products

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California ban on new fur products is first in US
California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill Saturday, making the state the first to ban the sale of new fur products.
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[13-Oct-19 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN1WS0CT

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Putin says Trump not to blame for lack of improvement in Russia-U....
Moscow is not blaming U.S. President Donald Trump for failing to improve U.S.-Ru...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191013&t=2&i=1440357375&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9C0DP


[13-Oct-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8a0f4a471d19476383e665fc091d2847

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Hunter Biden to step down from Chinese board
NEW YORK (AP) — Facing intense scrutiny from President Donald Trump and his Republican allies, Hunter Biden announced on Sunday that he will step down from the board of directors of a...
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[13-Oct-19 07:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside those god damn anti-furries :trixdisgust:


[13-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50015982

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Slow walking at 45 'a sign of faster ageing'
Gait speed in mid-life indicates how fast the brain and body are ageing, researchers found.
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[13-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Having less energy is a sign of aging"


[13-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Tax dollars well spent 🙄


[13-Oct-19 07:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1183435149192638465?s=21

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"Nancy Pelosi has ducked" holding a full House vote on impeachment because doing so would "expose it as the partisan exercise that it is." - Jason Riley, Wall Street Journal https://t.co/0YGs6DRPa1
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[13-Oct-19 07:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/1183361848747483136?s=20

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#Turkey's President #Erdogan said today he does not consider #YPG people as human beings in the first place, not interested whether they are Kurds or not, described them as terrorists. Then he added that he is not a racist. https://t.co/rRkV3lMq3s
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[13-Oct-19 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/CizireCanton/status/1183431975778041858?s=20

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BREAKING: Russia establishes no-fly zone over #Manbij & #Kobani...
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[13-Oct-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
lmfao are you serious


[13-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Happy cheese comes from suicidal cows. Suicidal cows come from Texas.


[13-Oct-19 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465552-sondland-to-tell-congress-no-quid-pro-quo-from-trump-report

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Sondland to tell Congress that contents of 'no quid pro quo' text ...
President Trump's ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, plans to tell Congress this week that a text he sent denying a quid pro quo between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a July phone call was
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[13-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh


[13-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking


[13-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Told ya there was good reason they didn't want Sondland to testify.


[13-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's the smoking official.


[13-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's gonna be under oath, saying that Trump personally directed him to make false statements.


[13-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting, so Trump told him to lie


[13-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That response did kind of seem canned to me


[13-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So one of the other ambassadors said "this looks like qpq and it's crazy" and Trump told Sondland to deny that it was and also not to talk via text


[13-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hm


[13-Oct-19 09:41 PM] ononim#8141

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[13-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Yeah, this certainly doesn't help


[13-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was supposed to be Trump's big defense


[13-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I said


[13-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is no real defense


[13-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
under oath, they'll show the truth.


[13-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It makes Taylor's analysis of it all seem more valid


[13-Oct-19 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh I apparently never shared the thread showing the quid pro quo goes back *much* further than the zelensky call


[13-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
Power outage in California: SOCIALISM HAS FAILED CONFIRMED xD


[13-Oct-19 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dfz6ta/megathread_two_giuliani_associates_tied_to/f36yyll/

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Megathread: Two Giuliani Associates Tied to Ukraine Scandal Arrest...
[Link to the indictment](https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/U.S.v.LevParnasetalIndictment.pdf). Among various campaign finance charges,...
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[13-Oct-19 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the relevant comment's the highlighted one from slakmehl


[13-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who, @Itsthinking?


[13-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was the guy who said "I think it's crazy that we're withholding aid to get what we want" or something like that


[13-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland, told to respond by Trump, said that there was not and to stop texting


[13-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[13-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when all we needed for likely removal was "yeah go break in"


[13-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This would be like if the burglars talked to each other about how crazy it was and Nixon told one of them to stop talking and do it


[13-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Taylor seems to have known qpq was happening


[13-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`President Trump's ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, plans to tell Congress this week that a text he sent denying a quid pro quo between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a July phone call was dictated by Trump himself.`


[13-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oooooh


[13-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465599-buttigieg-pushes-back-on-orourke-call-to-strip-anti-lgbt-religious

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2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg (D) on Sunday took aim at former Rep.
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[13-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda agree


[13-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With Beto


[13-Oct-19 10:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hmm, it's dicey


[13-Oct-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tax-exempt status should be stripped from religion.


[13-Oct-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Render unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar.


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I think any partisanship in any org should make you lose the status


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way to be tax-exempt should be based purely on how you handle financies.


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of this crap where you become a church and say you won't endorse candidates so you stop paying taxes even as you rake in the money.


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice it violates the establishment clause.


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tax exemption is a privilege, not a right


[13-Oct-19 10:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, that's the thing - picking and choosing tax-exempt status based on what they espouse is not going to make any religious types happy, but outright removing the tax-exempt status for *all* churches is a good way to tank your candidacy like Beto did with his comment on removing all guns


[13-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you favor established religions.


[13-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wouldn't just remove it from churches


[13-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd do it from everyone that is partisan


[13-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If the ACLU or Planned Parenthood do it I would want it pulled from them too


[13-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd allow partisans but basically they can't donate money.


[13-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once you start pumping money into candidates or causes, here come the taxes.


[13-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise things just become money pumps.


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd frame that as "tax-exempt organizations should be banned from lobbying"


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't like amass too much money, either.


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if I made a church that was dedicated to the worship of a candidate or politician


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can worship them


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you can't use the church to donate


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
or it gets taxed.


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But you could now right


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you can, yes.


[13-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So you could commit massive campaign finance fraud using a church as a mask


[13-Oct-19 10:27 PM] ononim#8141
I will stay silent on the matter to not scre the children


[13-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, Sondland knows shit is fucked.


[13-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully we get a floor vote before Christmas


[13-Oct-19 10:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So long as cockroaches keep falling out of the woodwork and into congressional subpoenas I see no reason why they should


[13-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(a floor vote isn't required, _Nixon v. US_)


[13-Oct-19 10:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah, see, I meant the house's vote to impeach


[13-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachment can basically be done however the house or Senate says it is


[13-Oct-19 10:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the showdown I'm waiting for is for Trump to *actually* try suing Schiff and Pelosi, the federal courts saying "we already said we're not gonna touch that," he goes to the SCOTUS, they cite the constitution


[13-Oct-19 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and somewhere in all of that Barr gets caught doing something inexcusable because of course he will


[13-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or that decision


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also his lawyers have tried to say US v. Nixon was wrongly decided


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
`like Beto did with his comment on removing all guns`


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
We disagree with this ruling, so it doesn't apply!


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS will not touch impeachment stuff, it is a political process


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
did a republican, former or otherwise, say this in any context at all?


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as with moving offices to Kansas.


[13-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
world is gone crazy I'm telling you.


[13-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Opponent Trump said "take the guns first, due process second"


[13-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
context?


[13-Oct-19 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was saying something about a red flag law iirc


[13-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Something about mass shootings and the mentally ill


[13-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[13-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Red flag laws probably are not constitutional


[13-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[13-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Moscow Mitch is super quiet in all of this tho


[13-Oct-19 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't have much of an informed opinion on gun control, but I do think the existing classifications the ATF uses are really arbitrary and few approaches focus on responsible gun ownership


[13-Oct-19 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the comparison to drivers' licenses comes up here, I'd think, 'cause not only do you have to demonstrate training to obtain it, there's other stuff like car insurance and inspections that so far as I know have no equivalent in terms of guns. I don't even know if this country has what you could call a "gun license," just hunting licenses and CC permits


[13-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Opponent#3498
car insurance wouldn't translate here


[13-Oct-19 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is the purpose of car insurance?


[13-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd imagine accident coverage and such. Probably not so much maintenance.


[13-Oct-19 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In places with state-mandated car insurance, it's to address the liability of the car owner in the event of a crash


[13-Oct-19 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why, then, would there not be an equivalent oversight on liability for gun owners? Sure, there are laws about keeping them in safes, etc...but if you look at the stats on stuff like firearm accidents in homes and where misused guns come from...


[13-Oct-19 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
iow, I don't think we're doing enough to address inadequately secured guns and stolen guns


[13-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
with a gun, accident prevention is almost entirely in the hands of the user (catastrophic malfunctions nonwithstanding). With cars it's more murky. The costs are also pretty polarized. Either it's a gigantic US medical bill (covered by health insurance hopefully), or it's nothing.


[13-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
same with inspections. A gun is much, MUCH simpler than a car. There's no plasuble way to have mandated inspections.


[13-Oct-19 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
i wouldn't have inspections for the purposes of making sure the gun is in working order, as that's not the risk here


[13-Oct-19 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
inspections on properly secured guns? Yeah, that's a thing we have here, actually.(not entirely cucked in this department yet, at least in terms of smoothbore) Obviously it's a double-edged sword, letting a police officer into your house is always a risk.


[13-Oct-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah that was what I was hung up on, I can't think of a solution for inspecting that that'd be anything other than a massive invasion of privacy


[13-Oct-19 10:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
about all I can think of is simple proof of ownership. Can you account for all of your firearms, etc


[13-Oct-19 10:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The other side of gun control that I think the US handles inadequately is ammunition. From a pragmatic standpoint, limited magazines are a useless "solution" on the grounds that the market is already flooded with full-capacity magazines that would all have to be recalled, but more importantly - what does it actually accomplish other than forcing the specific use case of a mass shooter to reload more frequently?


[13-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and that's fair enough, actually. Unless you're a collector, which isn't common at all, if you for whatever reason can't account for all your guns, you're WAY past having 'enough'.


[13-Oct-19 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But on the other hand, I walk into my local sporting goods store and I see boxes of ammo just on display over-the-counter and I think "this could probably be handled better"


[13-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
with a historical collector it's different, but that's a very specific thing.


[13-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and yeah. Limited mags don't achive much.


[13-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
especially when in a lot of times the 10-rounder is a 30-rounder with a pin in the middle or something


[13-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
those can get lost by accident, much less intent.


[13-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
...what they do limit is competitive scene


[13-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
as designing a stage around 10-rounders or something silly like a non-detachable mag isn't easy or fun


[13-Oct-19 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Overall I see a lot of the existing body of law re: gun control as being "don't do crime, crime is illegal now" and very little being done to address instances like a guy gunning down a relative on his own doorstep because he surprised him in the middle of the night


[13-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the thing with guns in US, from an outsider's perspective, is that both pro- and anti- approaches  are very emotional.


[13-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
'evil black assault rifles killing children with their high capacity semi-automatic fire'


[13-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
that kinda thing


[13-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like the worst of US politics, amplified


[13-Oct-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and on the other side, **SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED**


[13-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[13-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
there's very little actual thought put into it from people who CAN make decisions.


[13-Oct-19 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and almost none from people who know what they're talking about


[13-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-12/is-the-world-economy-sliding-into-first-recession-since-2009


[13-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
least you can stop the page mid-load and still read it


[14-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
reading global financial overview always makes me feel retarded :D


[14-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/465614-biden-on-impeachment-im-the-only-reason-its-happening#

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Biden on impeachment: 'I'm the only reason' it's happening
Former Vice President Joe Biden addressed the impeachment inquiry into President Trump on Sunday, quipping to an audience that he was "the only reason" that it was happening.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_100419getty.jpg


[14-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wat


[14-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1183215204525412352

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Mark Kern (@Grummz)
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1183215204525412352
An analysis of the @Blizzard_Ent letter about @blitzchungHS  and the #FreeHongKong incident.

I apply everything I know from having been in the leadership team at Blizzard, my legal background, my decades of game industry experience, and my work with Chinese companies.

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[14-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
oh jeese, he's the team lead for Classic


[14-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
damn. Rip classic maybe.


[14-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
much wince.


[14-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
afaik he's not actually developing classic


[14-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
he was the developer team lead when the game was first made back in 2003/4


[14-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
false advertisement then, hmm?


[14-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
... what do you mean false advertising?


[14-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
it says "vanilla world of warcraft" not "wow classic"


[14-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
I stand corrected.


[14-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know why I read it like I did.


[14-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
sorry.


[14-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's fine, it's just that you jumped to "false advertising" pretty fast there


[14-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
when technically he IS the original dude who allowed wow classic to be made to begin with


[14-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I... had a volatile mix in my head of why's and how's. Never mind me.


[14-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
he mentioned something like 'I personally convinced blizz to release classic'


[14-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
that and him being this ambitious rebel and sounding like he's a big deal made me... read without reading I suppose.


[14-Oct-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/o2nu79pmjbs31.png

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[14-Oct-19 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7e90fd08a89e49d9bcae6a85a131a64a

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Syria's Kurds look to Assad for protection after US pullout
AKCAKALE, Turkey (AP) — Syria's Kurds said Syrian government forces agreed Sunday to help them fend off Turkey's invasion — a major shift in alliances that came after President Donald Trump...
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[14-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1183391528238104579?s=19

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https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1183391528238104579?s=19
There is only one struggle: the Class Struggle. Wbo creates the classes? Those in Power. It is power itself that must be decentralized.
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[14-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Local zoophilia advocate accidentally reclaims the word "libertarian" for the left


[14-Oct-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/yhz8pl3yecs31.png

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[14-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-differences-2020-presidential-campaign

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Why the Differences Between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders Matter
Denying that there are differences between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, and that those differences matter, is absurd. One candidate has a suite of progressive policy proposals; the other has stronger versions of those policies plus a commitment to building a movement ...
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[14-Oct-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/13/giuliani-was-always-a-fraud-just-ask-the-fdny/

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Giuliani was always a fraud. Just ask the FDNY
The FDNY struggled to get functional radios during Giuliani's tenure. Many died on 9/11 because Giuliani ignored the warning signs
https://media.salon.com/2019/10/rudy-giuliani-10112.jpg


[14-Oct-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/ukraine-impeachment-inquiry-witness-transcripts-4b21fb7f-2fe8-4a78-b436-a101ab0f4dcc.html

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House Democrat says all Ukraine witness transcripts will be released
House Intel member Rep. Jim Himes said that the transcripts need to be scrubbed of classified information.
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[14-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump keeps saying - read the transcript.


[14-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
well, we'll read the fucking transcript, finally.


[14-Oct-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wrong transcript - this is talking about the closed-door hearings they're having with witnesses. That phone call is still locked up on the top-secret server


[14-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[14-Oct-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
we will probably still get the phone call


[14-Oct-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
very reminiscent of nixon


[14-Oct-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
just not yet


[14-Oct-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well it's already reminiscent in that we only have 10 minutes of a 30-minute call


[14-Oct-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/13/trump-impeachment-esper-pentagon-house-subpoena-ukraine

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Trump impeachment: Esper indicates Pentagon will cooperate with in...
Secretary of defense ‘will do everything we can’ before Tuesday deadline but cautions: ‘White House has a say as well’
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[14-Oct-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
why should the white house have any say in it


[14-Oct-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
the executive is congress's _bitch_


[14-Oct-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The white house is a bulding ffs


[14-Oct-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're trying the president for crimes


[14-Oct-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they wanna give him defense, there's already defense attorneys for that


[14-Oct-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
secret/restricted proceedings are just a formality that congress participates in to maintain executive integrity


[14-Oct-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't have to do that


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't?


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
they can subpoena the exact records they want


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
and make them public


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it's their call


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article234946067.html


[14-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
>  Daylight saving time will continue in California for now, as lawmaker delays bill


[14-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
> “I want to clarify that AB 7 is not dead and will be moving forward in January,” Chu said in prepared remarks. “My main goal will always be to stop the practice of switching back and forth, and I am dedicated to make this a reality.”


[14-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Whether AB 7 sticks with daylight saving time or is altered to move the Golden State to permanent standard time, Chu spokesman Annie Pham said that the assemblyman’s goal “has always been to stop the time switch altogether.”

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[14-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465625-fake-video-of-trump-shooting-members-of-media-shown-at-miami-resort#

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Video of fake Trump shooting members of media shown at Miami resor...
A fake video of President Trump shooting, stabbing and brutally assaulting media personalities and political opponents was played at a conference for his supporters at his Miami resort last week, the New York Times
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[14-Oct-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I... what?


[14-Oct-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
isn't this the kind of material the _opposition_ would use?


[14-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[14-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their message is "we will win at any cost, even killing the opposition"


[14-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives love it.


[14-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
apparently it was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1WWDBTda2Y

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[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly one of the questions I ask people who say they need guns to fight against tyranny is


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand like


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives **want** tyranny.


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you saw a minority being shipped off to a death camp would you fight for them?"


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't just disagreeing with you on the positions


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They either say nothing or say no


[14-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They fundamentally desire different things morally.


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
they want an outgroup to crush underfoot


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Trump because they *want* someone who will shoot people.


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want him to go up to CNN and shoot everyone


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want him to go to every mosque in America and kill the muslims.


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what they *actually* want.


[14-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How dare you present yourselves as guardians against tyranny but will not lift a finger to help fellow Americans


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll join the tyranny and murder


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
because they unperson them


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about winning at all costs.


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they're not americans


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they're _illegal immigrants_


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who legitimately do not believe all men are created equal


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its wasn't even talking immigrants


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but minorities


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like they think that's BS


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in like, take blakk kids off the street


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I know


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
send them to camps to be burned.


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the 2nd Amendment types would do nothing


[14-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or join in on the tyranny


[14-Oct-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I dream of a day some people would band together and actually fulfill the second ammendment by raiding an ICE detention facility and setting all the imprisoned immigrants free


[14-Oct-19 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*That* would be the point of the Second Ammendment


[14-Oct-19 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not people fetishizing firearms as some piece of inalienable property that they'll never use for anything other than showing off


[14-Oct-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because that's all American gun owners do, basically, they either just show off their guns for intimidation or actively use them for evil


[14-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
well, there's sport/hunting crowd


[14-Oct-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't care


[14-Oct-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they are the type who would gladly be licensed anyway


[14-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sport/hunting crowd mostly is libertarians


[14-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe the gov't's only business is in shooting hippies so they don't hav to.


[14-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
While they make every species go extinct in the name of freedumb.

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[14-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I really don't think hunters make anything extinct anymore, the time of industrial hunting has come and gone. And competitive shooters is a whole other kettle of fish.


[14-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't understand


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
These hunters don't want to make le abundant species into le abundant trousers


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to find every endangered species


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
or reintroduced near-extincted species


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and shoot them one by one until none are left


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to spite the liberals who managed to get protections on such


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To "trigger the libs", i guess


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's such a pathological mentality


[14-Oct-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Cecil_the_lion

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Killing of Cecil the lion
Cecil (c. 2002 – 2 July 2015) was a lion who lived primarily in the Hwange National Park in Matabeleland North, Zimbabwe. He was a major attraction of the park and was being studied and tracked by a research team of the University of Oxford as part of a long-term study.
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[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Childish, even


[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get mad that LIBERALS made wolves come bakk


[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they fight hard to get it legal to shoot wolves en masse


[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to reextinct them.


[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh this wasn't the Jimmy John's guy right


[14-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though he did the same thing


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It takes fucking talent to be sub-Subway in terms of sandwich quality


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they make big talk about how ON THE RANCH WE MAKE A LIVIN' WITHOUT GOV'T LIKE A GOOD CHRISTIAN SHOULD


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like holy shit


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE RAISE CATTLE AN' HUNT DEER


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
while living on farm subsidies and food stamps


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
as god intended


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And loans from the gov't that allow businesses in rural areas to succeed at all.


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
(no banks will lend to them)


[14-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
banks won't lend to my weed shop either :(


[14-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it's the same rural shits that believe land should get a vote.


[14-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in cities don't hunt.


[14-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hunting is an absolute pain in the ass and it's become way, way less good of an idea in the last century.


[14-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Industrial pollution makes a lot of animals weaker, while humans transport microbes etc. all over


[14-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
so everything's fukking diseased


[14-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
lead bullets aren't banned anymore


[14-Oct-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
scott pruitt fuckface rolled back the regulation on using lead bullets


[14-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The population numbers of wild animals are down as a whole too


[14-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately hunting is all about proving you're a manly conservative


[14-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has nothing to do with fun or profit.


[14-Oct-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
dick swinging competition


[14-Oct-19 04:19 AM] ononim#8141
Okay that's projection


[14-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, maybe things in America are just that much different *shrug*


[14-Oct-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you Live In A Society™ that fetishizes guns like the US does


[14-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if we had decent conservation, hunting would make sense for a lot more people to do, for a start...


[14-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
but also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

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District of Columbia v. Heller
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purpose...


[14-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
this happened during Fox News's time


[14-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
and kind of inflamed everything


[14-Oct-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
along with the later decision to incorporate it under the 14th


[14-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
what do you mean by 'inflamed everything'?


[14-Oct-19 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
2A rights weren't much of a hot topic before this case was decided


[14-Oct-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and if it weren't decided the court's previous ruling (that it's okay to restrict firearms sales and posession where it does not relate to the formation of militias) would have held, and we wouldn't have quite the crisis we do today


[14-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kind of hard to imagine.


[14-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
US is defined by 2A.


[14-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
among other things, but this one's big.


[14-Oct-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
once upon a time it wasn't


[14-Oct-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it was defined by terrorists flying planes into buildings before then


[14-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I suppose I'm a bit too removed from you guys to comment on THAT issue.


[14-Oct-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
probably preventable


[14-Oct-19 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
still, I actually think 2A thing is an improvement over that.


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Bush notoriously ignored warnings from multiple agencies that bin laden was planning to strike


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
well, Bush and Cheney


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the government got patriot's act out of it. Something of that magnitude made it all worth it.


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 2nd amendment was meant to giv local gov'ts a way to form armies.


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
and then he sent us to war in Iraq because _OIL LOL_


[14-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it originally included a conscientious objection clause.


[14-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been twisted in the last half century to remove restrictions on gun ownership, from a twisted understanding whereby it's not to consider the whole organizational aspect at all.


[14-Oct-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the scotus case effectively neutered a lot of existing gun law at the time


[14-Oct-19 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking scalia lol


[14-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
scalia?


[14-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Infamous SCOTUS justice who basically decided that the constitution means what he thinks people in the 18th century wanted as far as an inequal society.


[14-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He took conservatism's goal to defend traditional power structures against enlightenment ideals and made it an engine of jurisprudence.


[14-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He pretty much ruled like the 14th amendment didn't exist, and that other amendments guaranteed freedom only to white christian males.


[14-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got pissed when the other justices decided that gays had equal rights.


[14-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and the gun thing?


[14-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gun control is racially unequal


[14-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan as governor of California banned open carry


[14-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the Black Panthers carried guns openly after the police brutalized a blakk guy


[14-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA was all for it


[14-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically when blakk people hav guns, suddenly gun control shows up.


[14-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
When white people hav guns, it goes away.


[14-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scalia made sure to rule against gun control repeatedly because it was whites with guns.


[14-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it can't be whites with guns or blacks with guns though, can it. Unless what you mean to say is, the laws change constantly reacting to situational changes in every region.


[14-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The laws usually change at a state level


[14-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you'd THINK they couldn't tailor this to target racially


[14-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in practice that's how it goes


[14-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
gun control legislation is often very complicated and muddied


[14-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the power of conservatism is that it changes what its actual argument is repeatedly as the situation changes.


[14-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Opponent#3498
you keep coming back with almost every issue to blacks vs whites, and I gotta say, I've never heard anyone focus on it THIS hard before. Ever. Including whiny tumblr and their 'black lives matter' memes, sometimes to ridiculous extent.


[14-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what conservatism is


[14-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
ingroup vs outgroup


[14-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, but there's many layers of that.


[14-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
sometimes you miss the forest for the trees but other times it really is just the trees


[14-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and also this begs the question, how on earth does your society function at all, if _every_ issue is 'ingroup vs outgroup'?


[14-Oct-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the issues aren't always clear cut, but the US is incredibly racist and has a politically popular crazy racist past


[14-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
or at least this is involved at one point or another


[14-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
pretty much every society can be broken down into 'ingroup vs outgroup'


[14-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
that's basically the basis for marxist theory


[14-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
during feudal times, there was an entire slave class referred to as "serfs"


[14-Oct-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
we talk a lot about black and white distinctions in here because that's pretty much what it ends up being in the US a lot of the time


[14-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow yeah, usually it's classic 'us vs them'. Us Ukraininans vs them Russians, forget common language, centuries of history, common genealogy, whatever else. We get a lot of it from our government, these last few years. This and stuff like this I can understand. Division by border or by nation.


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom

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Serfdom is the status of many peasants under feudalism, specifically relating to manorialism, and similar systems. It was a condition of debt bondage and indentured servitude, which developed during the Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages in Europe and lasted in some countri...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/IJzeren_voetring_voor_gevangenen_transparent_background.png


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
but from what you're saying there's not one, not two, but who knows how many layers of this thing.


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
We had a war over whether black people were property or not


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
whites vs blacks. Americans vs immigrants. Catholics (people, but realistically, catholics) vs muslims. And so on.


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, there's a lot of layers


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
There are more layers than a kilometer high lasagna


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
how the bloody hell can anyone function like this?


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
no, protestants vs catholics


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're all about who had power in the 18th century


[14-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
and christians vs muslims


[14-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, that. Thanks crow.


[14-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christian straight white males


[14-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you step outside that, you're a target of conservatism.


[14-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
being catholic was basically a death sentence to your candidacy for president in the past 100 years


[14-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
while catholics weren't nearly as oppressed as blacks were, there was still an ingroup vs outgroup thing going on


[14-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
even christian white straight males aren't always "pure" enough


[14-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
protestants vs catholics being a good example


[14-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is incredibly petty and we aren't exaggerating much about how surface level the things that divide us are


[14-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/politics/syria-marine-general-john-allen-trump/index.html

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Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands f...
A retired four-star Marine general on Sunday bluntly criticized President Donald Trump over the ongoing Turkish military offensive in northern Syria, saying, "There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151112201549-general-john-allen-isis-intv-tsr-labott-00015826-super-tease.jpg


[14-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
you can mostly blame Fox News for fanning the flames of division in the 21st century


[14-Oct-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
It seems to have outlived their usefulness to conservatives now and it is "too liberal"


[14-Oct-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Which scares me


[14-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well I mean


[14-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The left now is going to the actual left


[14-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20 years ago a Democrat would cringe at being called a liberal


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, trump ruined the balancing act that the neoliberals have been doing the past 30-40 years


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now we have candidates who would proudly say they are socialist


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
While not even being socialist


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, no one ever liked neoliberalism or neoconservativism


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They endured it


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
so what, we'vee come full circle on the socialism then? xD


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
where both democrats and republicans were basically the same with the only difference being social policies (economic policies were practically identical)


[14-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
r/neoliberal would beg to disagree


[14-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't realize it was such a popular ideology


[14-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, silicon valley is the center of neoliberalism


[14-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50037654

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Poland governing conservatives claim election victory
The conservative nationalist Law and Justice party is on course for a majority, an exit poll predicts.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/36BC/production/_109221041_057279950.jpg


[14-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
so look forward to poland making homosexuality illegal so that they can censor the internet


[14-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
neoconservatism just gave us jobs programs for warhawks


[14-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
because of that EU high court ruling that allows member states to take stuff off the internet entirely (even if it's hosted outside of the EU) if it's illegal in just one member state


[14-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right to be forgotten is such BS


[14-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is rarely used by people with good intentions


[14-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only real use should be getting rid of shit said when people were dumb teenagers


[14-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US within 30 years we'll have cringy posts from every possible candidate so it won't ultimately be an issue


[14-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
don't think that EU ruling will actually be put in practice like this.


[14-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
No it will be because there will still be enough people who managed to slip through the cracks of cancel culture


[14-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
certainly not on Poland's behest.


[14-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Candidate Jefferson posted pornography on Derpibooru in 2015. How can we trust him?"- political ad, 2042


[14-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
It won't die that quick


[14-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the 2016 elections but both Hillary and Trump had furry inflation OCs


[14-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the US elections 30 years from now.


[14-Oct-19 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Someone'll run for president and some journalist will dig up their Derpibooru posts. On the politics thread.


[14-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
yep. That'll be fun.


[14-Oct-19 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine someone discovers a potential presidential candidates e621 account.


[14-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2019/10/03/the-e-u-orders-global-censorship-of-comments-calling-austrian-politician-a-corrupt-oaf/

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The E.U. Orders Global Censorship of Comments Calling Austrian Pol...
Whatever you do, don't call Austrian Green Party politician Eva Glawischnig-Piesczek a "corrupt oaf" or "lousy traitor of the people"
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/eva_1161x653-1161x630.jpg


[14-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When everyone has herpes, does anyone really have herpes?


[14-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[14-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, in the US, the first amendment gives all citizens the right to call any politician a "corrupt oaf" or "lousy traitor of the people"


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
you still don't get that it's a neverending witchhunt fueled by projection.


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a presidential candidate who has Derpibooru posts used in a campaign ad against them


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking You know when it first becomes an idea, they'll think finding someone's furry porn account with all the porn art they uploaded will be novel. But then they'll realize no one cares: because boomers are dead.


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
> These are all crudely expressed opinions, and they're obviously just opinions. Glawischnig-Piesczek, however, objected to these characterizations and asked Facebook to delete the comments. Facebook refused. So Glawischnig-Piesczek sued under Austria's defamation laws and won. The case then went up to the European Union to determine whether she had the power to demand that Facebook censor these "defamatory" comments from appearing on Facebook just in Austria, or worldwide.


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
> Today, the European Court of Justice ruled that not only did Facebook have to take these posts down worldwide, it also has to remove content that duplicates or repeats any statements that have been deemed defamatory.


[14-Oct-19 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Aaron "Kill the Turks" MK


[14-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
basically, if ANYTHING is illegal in a member state of the EU, the state can sue to have that thing taken off the internet no matter where it is hosted


[14-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
it wasn't the state though.


[14-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
just individual.


[14-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
no, defamatory statements are illegal in austria


[14-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[14-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
an individual sued under state laws to have their state laws enforced internationally


[14-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
well. Let them try :3


[14-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
so if you make homosexuality and all mentions of it existing illegal in an EU member state, someone in that state can sue to have it removed from the internet


[14-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
which is what poland is moving towards


[14-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll be genuinly curious to see them try.


[14-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it's one thing to demand Facebook to do shit and succeed. (although I wonder if FB actually does that, and I bet it's an easy fix for a person nobody ever heard about)


[14-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
trying to kill an industry? Let them try.


[14-Oct-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, anyone trying to maintain profit or broaden profit by using the international market usually has to abide by local laws. Which means the challenge: custom fit your website or services for regional laws based on where users are connecting, or blanket apply any and all laws universally.


[14-Oct-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it's easier to just go, "OK. Fine. This country's laws apply universally."


[14-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully if Warren wins and breaks up Big Tech we won't have to wonder.


[14-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Zucc being uncomfortable with her borderline secured my vote.


[14-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that bernie would do the same thing, and everyone knows he would do it


[14-Oct-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is the case of YouTube censoring and de-monetizing LGBT content, because it's cheaper to do that then try to set up regional "markets" or something where LGBT videos are treated on even or unequal ground, because YouTube is also trying to make it in India and Pakistan and Egypt, and not just Europe.


[14-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
warren is just the more palatable candidate


[14-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
and it's not assured that she would do it either


[14-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren doesn't concern me because of PRO Act support


[14-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That, in terms of labor policy makes them the same


[14-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
warren is more likely to compromise, which is the problem


[14-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
we've had decades of compromises not solving the problems


[14-Oct-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
On the other hand, Liz Warren was a Republican early in her career, where as Bernie has been pretty active in progressive politics from the beginning; if anything censoring his more radical views when he got to the Senate.


[14-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
on the other hand, my mom (and I get the feeling most conservatives) can't tell the difference between bernie, warren, and biden, they think that all the candidates are basically stalin on steroids


[14-Oct-19 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll make Stalin look like an Anarchist


[14-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/technology/facebook-europe.html

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Facebook Can Be Forced to Delete Content Worldwide, E.U.’s Top C...
The decision that individual countries can order Facebook to take down posts globally sets a benchmark for the reach of European laws governing the internet.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/02/business/3eufacebook/3eufacebook-facebookJumbo.jpg


[14-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
> The court left to national court systems in each European Union country to decide what cases merit forcing an internet company to take down content in foreign countries. That raised questions about what other laws Facebook and other internet platforms can be forced to comply with by governments in Europe.


[14-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
> French regulators have tested the expansion of privacy laws beyond the European Union. Germany has adopted strict laws to remove hate speech from social media platforms. Britain is considering new restrictions against “harmful” internet content.


[14-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
> But the decision is not likely to not lead to a flood of orders against Facebook to take down content globally, said David Erdos, deputy director of the Center for Intellectual Property and Information Law at Cambridge University. The opinion was narrowly crafted, he said, and urged national courts to weigh any bans carefully against international laws.


[14-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
so it'll take like a decade before poland is suing to remove all LGBT stuff instead of like a year, big whoop


[14-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6ZR3MXV1M

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6ZR3MXV1M
Video of fake Trump shooting media.
Video of fake Trump shooting members of media shown at Miami resort. A fake video of President Trump shooting. ideo of Fake Trump Shooting Media.
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[14-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
the edited video of trump shooting reporters and news channels got uploaded to youtube


[14-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
wonder how long it'll be allowed to stay


[14-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
oh wow, it's not even news stations, it has black lives matter in there too


[14-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
and obama's logo


[14-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, this is an edited video to make it look like the current US president is shooting the previous president in the head


[14-Oct-19 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the heck is a "meme exhibit" anyway


[14-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's another way of saying "it's just a prank bro"


[14-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure who all the faces are in that video though


[14-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
there's one at 1 minute 3 seconds in of trump punching a black woman multiple times in the face


[14-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
immediately after, there's a part where it shows trump burning bernie's face off


[14-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
and then at the end, it shows trump smiling happily amidst the carnage


[14-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Opponent#3498
`so it'll take like a decade before poland is suing to remove all LGBT stuff instead of like a year, big whoop`


[14-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Opponent#3498
first, it's not a given that EU will even survive a decade. We live in interesting times, we do.


[14-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, without the US, it has to stay together if they want to survive and not fall back into endless warring again


[14-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
second, just try to imagine battling all the gay porn on the internet. Really embrace the scope of the task.


[14-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
they can sure try, but, well. If they do succeed they'll end up breaking a lot more things in the process. No sane person would try.


[14-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
conservative ideals aren't what most people would consider "sane"


[14-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
that's true, but unless EU in it's entirety wants to follow Poland the 'soviet republic with entitlement issues', their opinions will remain their own.


[14-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking @byte[] here hav something for the holidays in advance https://worldwideinterweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/fox-design-fail.jpg

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[14-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will almost certainly be relavent by November given how the Trump administration is doing things.


[14-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/465621-trump-called-head-of-fox-news-to-complain-about-coverage-of-him-report

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Trump called head of Fox News to complain about coverage: report
President Trump complained about coverage of himself to Fox News Chief Executive Suzanne Scott in a phone call late this summer, The New York Times reported&n
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[14-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should have basically no free speech rights at all.


[14-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want a president who willingly neuters their own office.


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
the president is the face of the nation


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
wtf kinda free speech you even talking about :/


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want an executive council


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want three or four mini presidents


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it comes down to it anyway, doesn't it.


[14-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
various councils and whatnot


[14-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
you get A figurehead, but it's not THE figurehead normally anyway.


[14-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think EOs are at all different from rule by decree


[14-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
with Trump, yeah, the system hit a snag.


[14-Oct-19 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think you need to break up existing positions just to spread out the power amassed in them, you just need to  put that power back where it came from


[14-Oct-19 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially in regards to senate majority leader


[14-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point you might need to break it up


[14-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The executive branch has tried to usurp power via ignorance of the electorate


[14-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It needs to be changed


[14-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If we give this much power to the Senate and house majority leaders we may as well make it official


[14-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judiciary needs to take on most of what the executive currently does.


[14-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to writing specific guidance on enforcement when given broad mandates from congress, judges are the only people really objective and qualified to do so.


[14-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
All these agencies with who the fukk ever staffing them writing what the law is on the ground level is bad.


[14-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically combines the ability to rule on things that judges hav with the ability to write law that legislators hav


[14-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it changes with every administration


[14-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately it all gets challenged anyways, with slow rulings


[14-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
just hav judges figure this shit out from the start


[14-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they get it wrong, send it on up to SCOTUS, or hav congress write new laws


[14-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the president shouldn't be able to decide on a whim what a business can do or not by the law.


[14-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives use whataboutism with DACA to justify trump's use of EOs to try and get funding for his wall


[14-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
and for putting immigrants and refugees in concentration camps


[14-Oct-19 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(and a handful of citizens but lol whoops "it happens")


[14-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
did the wall get anywhere btw? I remember reading about him basicly shutting down government when he didn't get his want, but not really much afterwards.


[14-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[14-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He eventually took Democrat's deal on the shutdown


[14-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
after like a month of causing all sorts of issues


[14-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's possible that such was planned


[14-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
see, a lot of people not being paid outright left their jobs


[14-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
that included many experts in their fields...


[14-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it could be 10 years before the US gov't recovers in terms of expertise.


[14-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in Trump's best interests to keep experts out.


[14-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Experts tend to disagree with his BS.


[14-Oct-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
he tried to use a national emergency to appropriate funds set for other military stuff by congress in order to build the wall, but a judge just ruled that unconstitutional a couple days ago


[14-Oct-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and a handful of people pulled stunts showing just how ineffectual the wall he was trying to build was


[14-Oct-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://qz.com/1726898/texas-federal-court-finds-trumps-border-wall-emergency-order-illegal/

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https://qz.com/1726898/texas-federal-court-finds-trumps-border-wall-emergency-order-illegal/
A Texas federal court says Trump’s border wall funding is illegal
The Oct. 11 ruling is a stunning victory over Trump for El Paso County.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/border.patrol.jpeg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[14-Oct-19 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
> The court found that the US president’s February declaration of a state of emergency at the border between Texas and Mexico injured the county’s reputation and exceeded his executive powers, holding that use of funds allocated for other purposes could not legally be used to fund the border wall.


[14-Oct-19 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec33594b88c1413c854efe01fa56d07c

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India restores post-paid cellphone services in Kashmir
SRINAGAR, India (AP) — Postpaid cellphone services were restored in India-administered Kashmir on Monday, more than two months after India's government downgraded the region's semi-autonomy and...
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[14-Oct-19 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/318/341/16b.png

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[14-Oct-19 12:51 PM] Opponent#3498
hah. This is actually a great compliment


[14-Oct-19 12:51 PM] Opponent#3498
even long-dead and gone, they continue to be very relevant


[14-Oct-19 12:52 PM] Opponent#3498
stronger in death than they were in life. Probably not really, but that's what the meme implies.


[14-Oct-19 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
it's a visual metaphor for the phrase "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi."


[14-Oct-19 01:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://mspoweruser.com/apple-safari-browser-may-send-your-browsing-data-to-chinese-company-tencent/

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Apple Safari browser may send your browsing data to Chinese compan...
With the release of iOS 13, Apple has updated its “Fraudulent Website Warning” feature in Safari web browser. As part of this update, Apple may now send your browsing data to Chinese company Tencent. Before this update, Apple made use of Google’s Safe Browsing technolog...
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[14-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
which is a line from the black comedy film "Inglourious Basterds", which is a fictional movie about an american commando putting together a team of jewish-american soldiers to go behind enemy lines in nazi germany and scalp nazis to sow fear


[14-Oct-19 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
actually, the line itself might not be in the movie, but it's in the description of the movie


[14-Oct-19 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
and afaik it's the catchphrase of the movie


[14-Oct-19 01:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, why is a MS fansite reporting on Apple browsers...


[14-Oct-19 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
but nazis are still relevant because there's still far-right extremists around, the nazis were just the largest and most "successful" organization of far-right extremists


[14-Oct-19 01:21 PM] Crow#5457
nazism is the end goal of far-right extremists


[14-Oct-19 01:21 PM] Crow#5457
create the camps, create an efficient system of getting people into the camps, create an efficient system of destroying the people in the camps to make room for more people being shipped efficiently to the camps


[14-Oct-19 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
and the people being shipped are everyone deemed to be "undesirable" by the majority group, whether it's people who oppose them ideologically or a minority denomination that is blamed for all the troubles the majority group is facing


[14-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon because they're looking to incite a REEEEE.


[14-Oct-19 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/-MTRxRO5SRA

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Let's teach for mastery -- not test scores | Sal Khan
Would you choose to build a house on top of an unfinished foundation? Of course not. Why, then, do we rush students through education when they haven't alway...
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[14-Oct-19 02:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a littlemind exercise... what if everything, every good, product, service, was free?


[14-Oct-19 02:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which implies no money or mechanism of commodity exchange or accumulation


[14-Oct-19 02:46 PM] byte[]#2610
how do you regulate supply


[14-Oct-19 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people would engorge themselves and do nothing, most would manage the bare minimum due to lack of incentives (or punishment), people would quickly figure out a new carrot/stick to make people do stuff


[14-Oct-19 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd take a massive shift to manage a society where someone willingly pours boiling hot tar over a road in the middle of summer "for free"


[14-Oct-19 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or does roofing or cleans up blockages in sewers


[14-Oct-19 02:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, i`m assuming such a new economy and society would require a massive shift in how everyone thinks and how everyone values each other


[14-Oct-19 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if we are to be inserted into a society like that while maintaining our capitalist mindset, obviously it won't work and things will just go back to "normal"


[14-Oct-19 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but perhaps there would be other incentives to do work in a moneyless society


[14-Oct-19 02:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like believing your work will bring some form of social equilibrium to your community


[14-Oct-19 02:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Yeah, but meh" would be the response from too many people


[14-Oct-19 02:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
doing stuff for free isn't that uncommon, if i'm not mistaken. People still brush their teeth, clean their rooms and house, because they believe it is necessary


[14-Oct-19 02:54 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society though


[14-Oct-19 02:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't teach a sociopath or a massive narcissist to "care for others", but you can make them understand money and the lack thereof


[14-Oct-19 02:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
if we could convince Rob that building a house for Bob for free would benefit the community he lives in in some way, then maybe the system i'm proposing could be considerable, but i'm not sure


[14-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What if I don't care about the community


[14-Oct-19 02:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, the problem here would be the sociopaths and hoarders


[14-Oct-19 02:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but we already have these in capitalism


[14-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I evaluate that my needs are sufficient even if the community languishes due to my lack of participation


[14-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And thus eat pizza and watch TV forever


[14-Oct-19 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
as i say, for people to even consider building a new society where every service is done for free, it'd require a massive mentality shift


[14-Oct-19 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i believe i'm describing marxian communism here


[14-Oct-19 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or Star Trek


[14-Oct-19 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOn25gw57E

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[14-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDn_z7UVfj0

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[14-Oct-19 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
🚫 🚬


[14-Oct-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
wonder if we'll ever have an unmarried president


[14-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
wait, where'd your animu pony avatar go


[14-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[14-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, the pilgrims did this, it caused a large amount of resentment


[14-Oct-19 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
yet they came from a society :twismug:


[14-Oct-19 03:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
did what exactly


[14-Oct-19 03:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
hoard?


[14-Oct-19 03:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or do everything for free?


[14-Oct-19 03:18 PM] ononim#8141
I am pretty sure piligrims did a lot of other shit to cause resentment


[14-Oct-19 03:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/status/1183685519764611072

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[14-Oct-19 03:19 PM] ononim#8141
Trump just given Assad full victory in SCW, huh


[14-Oct-19 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/federal-court-rules-border-wall-funding-through-national-emergency-illegal-due-to-bill-trump-himself-signed/

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[14-Oct-19 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
irony


[14-Oct-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, they had a communal system where families would rotate plots of land to care for, among other things


[14-Oct-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
it was apparently similar to "secular communism"


[14-Oct-19 03:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
how did it cause resentment?


[14-Oct-19 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
but basically, people didn't like caring for fields that they wouldn't get to reap


[14-Oct-19 03:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i think that'd be an issue in regards to people not being aware that other people too would sow what they didn't have to sow


[14-Oct-19 03:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
there would have to be a sense of reciprocity


[14-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/weekinreview/21zernike.html

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Thanksgiving and the Tea Party
To the Tea Party, Thanksgiving isn’t just a feast. It’s a morality tale about finding salvation in capitalism.
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[14-Oct-19 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"i must do this work for Bob for free, but Bob will be able to reciprocate by doing some possible future work for me"


[14-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
> “Bachelors didn’t want to feed the wives of married men, and women don’t want to do the laundry of the bachelors,” he said.


[14-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
> The competing versions of the story note Bradford’s writings about “confusion and discontent” and accusations of “laziness” among the colonists. But Mr. Pickering said this grumbling had more to do with the fact that the Plymouth colony was bringing together settlers from all over England, at a time when most people never moved more than 10 miles from home. They spoke different dialects and had different methods of farming, and looked upon each other with great wariness.


[14-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
> Bradford did get rid of the common course — but it was in 1623, after the first Thanksgiving, and not because the system wasn’t working. The Pilgrims just didn’t like it. In the accounts of colonists, Mr. Pickering said, “there was griping and groaning.”


[14-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Crow#5457
basically, rush limbaugh (american conservative talking head) tells a story every thanksgiving about how pilgrims tried out the dreaded "socialism" and faced famine and death because of it, but the real story is that they just didn't have a sense of community that fosters the good will that comes from everyone taking care of everyone else


[14-Oct-19 03:28 PM] Crow#5457
and the story concludes with how they switched to private ownership and caused food to rain from the sky and shit


[14-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
basically, rush limbaugh says that thanksgiving is a celebration of capitalism


[14-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
when the first thanksgiving was 2 years before they switched from their communist system to private ownership


[14-Oct-19 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i can understand how certain people would be repulsed by "ant colony socialism". but tbh, humanity will need a degree of collectivism if it wants to survive without destroying the world


[14-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
and that the real reason why they switched from communal ownership to private ownership is because everyone liked private ownership more


[14-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Crow#5457
and there were more opportunities for making a profit


[14-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Crow#5457
the communal system didn't really promote profit-making at all


[14-Oct-19 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
honestly i think the problem with historical "socialist" states like the USSR and China is the fact that they did not abolish commodity accumulation


[14-Oct-19 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what i mean by this is that, in the human mentality we possess as of now, we're obsessed with collecting stuff for ourselves


[14-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
though the article does mention that the pilgrims just got better at farming over the years, so that is likely one reason why they started making more profit over time


[14-Oct-19 03:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
be it capital, sports cars, video games, or even just "good worker" points from the revolutionary regime


[14-Oct-19 03:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this all fosters a sense of competition, which is a bit anathema to the survival of human civilization


[14-Oct-19 03:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
of course, assuming we implement "ant colony socialism", there would be some ethical and philosophical things to consider


[14-Oct-19 03:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like the intent: we'd be implementing this new system out of a need to curb loneliness and social isolation, but if everyone thinks the same way, there will be no diversity and humans will feel essentially alone in society


[14-Oct-19 03:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
such a system would require individual expression to be validated


[14-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijYEYzAQu0

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Individualism v. Individuality | Very Important Docs¹⁰
We must celebrate our unique thoughts and traits. At the same time, powerful people looking to use our individuality against us - individualism is the ideolo...
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[14-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Crow#5457
you can have individuality in a collectivist society


[14-Oct-19 03:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah that's what i figured


[14-Oct-19 03:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's just that people would express their persona and behave themselves in different ways


[14-Oct-19 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
there would still be the rascals and the grumpy ones and all the flawed people who make life interesting, but i think *abuse* would disappear in one way or another


[14-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
it's kinda funny how samey people are in public in the US


[14-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
even though the US is considered "the land of individualism"


[14-Oct-19 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
blame conformity effects and pluralistic ignorance


[14-Oct-19 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
there's very little individuality for a country that prides itself for its individualism


[14-Oct-19 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
which are actually much stronger in the US than in more traditionally collectivist societies


[14-Oct-19 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
in a striking bit of irony


[14-Oct-19 03:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, everyone's governed by the ultimate necessity of gaining money


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
it's obviously not as strong as someplace like china or japan, but it's still surprisingly lacking in individuality


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"i can't pursue my dreams right now, i need to make money to pay my rent"


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] byte[]#2610
surveys done in china and japan show that citizens there are on average more expressive than americans


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
obligatory 1/3rd of americans are a single missed paycheck away from homelessness


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] byte[]#2610
less conformist


[14-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
obligatory 47% of homeless americans have a job


[14-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
in private, maybe


[14-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
in public, you can't even write with your left hand if you're left-handed


[14-Oct-19 03:42 PM] ononim#8141

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[14-Oct-19 03:42 PM] ononim#8141
@yanks how do you manage to get yourself a leader who's senile narcisitic retard more than once in less than fifty years


[14-Oct-19 03:43 PM] ononim#8141
Like I understand reagan


[14-Oct-19 03:43 PM] ononim#8141
he was at least coherent


[14-Oct-19 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
it's the media


[14-Oct-19 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
we wouldn't have had trump without the media's implicit support


[14-Oct-19 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the republican candidacy would have basically been a joke with ted cruz being the likely nominee


[14-Oct-19 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
would have lost easily to clinton


[14-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Crow#5457
basically, trump is a ratings magnet for the media


[14-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Crow#5457
so they can't not ignore him because money


[14-Oct-19 03:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, it's the same mentality behind people who make pointless but ultimately "viral" videos


[14-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, you can make a pretty penny from a viral video if you properly protect it


[14-Oct-19 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
as long as you post it on youtube


[14-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
the media will ask for permission and whatnot, but you can charge them royalty fees for using it


[14-Oct-19 03:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
transform attention into audience, and audience into money


[14-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/465494-furious-republicans-prepare-to-rebuke-trump-on-syria

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Furious Republicans prepare to rebuke Trump on Syria
Congressional Republicans appear poised to hand President Trump a stinging rebuke of his Turkey and Syria policy when lawmakers return to Washington this week.
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[14-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/14/20912221/bernie-sanders-corporate-accountability-ftc-merger-tax

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Bernie Sanders’s plan to reshape corporate America, explained
Bernie Sanders has a plan to give workers ownership at their companies.
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[14-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
> Asked over the weekend how he differentiates himself with Warren, Sanders told ABC, “Elizabeth considers herself—if I got the quote correctly—to be a capitalist to her bones. I don’t. And the reason I am not is because I will not tolerate for one second the kind of greed and corruption and income and wealth inequality and so much suffering that is going on in this country today, which is unnecessary.”


[14-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
`i believe i'm describing marxian communism here`


[14-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
funny thing about that. People keep talking about 'not real communism' and whatnot, and they're right. Marx explicitly stated it's supposed to be an evolution, not a revolution. Well, people wanted paradise in their lifetime on the bones of their neigbours.


[14-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
the funny bit is, I think he described that as 'evolution' because he didn't see a path to it. At all. No scenario, in which humanity goes from where it is 'now' (or in his time) to where it 'should' be


[14-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
so he handwaved it.


[14-Oct-19 04:29 PM] Opponent#3498
all this talk about progress and development is simply a result of one guy handwaving a solution he didn't envision. One that might not even be possible.


[14-Oct-19 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Oct-19 06:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/hussedogru/status/1183748440297213952

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Turkish news outlet @Ahaber pretends to cover the war against Rojava from Tel Abyad North-Syria. Another live coverage from TRT shows that the presenter was hiding behind a wall in Turkey.
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[14-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[14-Oct-19 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-syria-mistake-thought-turkey-bluffed-invasion-axios-2019-10

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Trump thought Turkey was bluffing and would never actually invade ...
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was surprised by how quickly President Donald Trump withdrew US troops from northern Syria, Axios reported.
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[14-Oct-19 07:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Trump you fucking dunce, never trust a cockroach.


[14-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious how both erdogan and trump are stumbling all over this


[14-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>thought he was bluffing


[14-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf


[14-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
turkey's probably overextended its military, and trump's looking like a naïve dumbass


[14-Oct-19 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i believe Trump didn't actually think Erdogan was bluffing


[14-Oct-19 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he just said this as an excuse now that everyone is criticizing him for abandoning the Kurds


[14-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either way it's bad


[14-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ask anyone what Turkey is known for and among the top 5 would be "have committed genocides and gotten away with it" and "want to genocide the kurds"


[14-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is both dumb and malicious.


[14-Oct-19 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
either way, Turkey risks losing a lot by invading Rojava, not only due to embargoes


[14-Oct-19 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they'll likely have to fall back now that many of their enemies support the SDF, including Assad


[14-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is possibly Russia's whole plan


[14-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 turkey gets renamed to northern syria

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[14-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Overstretch Turkey so it can be bombed a little without angering NATO


[14-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consolidate Russia's allies and enjoy them being in greater fear


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465689-gop-rep-says-he-was-kicked-out-of-trump-aides-deposition

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GOP rep says he was kicked out of Trump aide's deposition
A top ally of President Trump said he was asked to leave the
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[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It amazes me that him and Jordan do this because they want to run for president one day


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He looks like such a Brad


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or a Chet


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like you know Jr. or Ivanka will push you out of the way


[14-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are you trying so hard


[14-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're absolutely dumb if you think a Trump family member won't get the nom in 2024 either way 2020 goes


[14-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again this guy thinks "kangaroo court" comes from Captain Kangaroo


[14-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So he's not bright


[14-Oct-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He knew he wasn't supposed to be there, he just wanted to whine to Fox News


[14-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"You're absolutely dumb"
Does that guy look like he's intelligent?


[14-Oct-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vietnam-southchinasea-film/vietnam-pulls-dreamworks-abominable-film-over-south-china-sea-map-idUSKBN1WT0J2?utm

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Vietnam pulls DreamWorks' 'Abominable' film over South China Sea map
Vietnam has pulled DreamWorks' animated film "Abominable" from ci...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191014&t=2&i=1440667365&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9D0QD


[14-Oct-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
little Vietnam takes a stand


[14-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc, they put the nine dashes in the movie?


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
smart people act proactively.


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
blizzard slamming was broadcast just as worldwide as the el retardo's message


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Coproduced by a chinese studio


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
others take notice :D


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
well even less suprise then


[14-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meaning they are likely obligated by law to ensure everything they work on is "correct"


[14-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
naturally.


[14-Oct-19 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the map in question


[14-Oct-19 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Oct-19 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
note how it manages to offend the Taiwanese too :D


[14-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine having a dick so small you need to mark around the empty sea you claim is yours


[14-Oct-19 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah but teaspoon i know you're criticizing China's totalitarian regime which combined with its massive buttloads of money presents a threat to human rights worldwide but


[14-Oct-19 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
have you considered that ur white


[14-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
News to me but ok


[14-Oct-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ur talking down to all these poor CCP officials? think about their feelings!


[14-Oct-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
let them abuse Tibet's water in peace >:c


[14-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Movies should automatically get points taken off for being Chinese pandering/propaganda


[14-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're going to make it harder and harder to tell


[14-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know one site that does it but he's racist as fuck so


[14-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also he wrote this title


[14-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://rogersmovienation.com/2019/10/07/netflixable-carrie-pilby-is-young-sheldon-without-the-sex-appeal/

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Netflixable? “Carrie Pilby” is “Young Sheldon” without the...
The reason you stay through to the closing credits when reviewing a film is basic movie-reviewing ethics. It’s a rule. Here’s another one. Never let a rom-com’s touching if obviou…
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[14-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
`They're going to make it harder and harder to tell`


[14-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
this.


[14-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My knowledge of "Young Sheldon" is limited, but what little there is is not associated with "sex appeal"...


[14-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
at this point in time, every product with China's invovement in design will be chinese propaganda.


[14-Oct-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they have technically been, since blockbuster films have been a thing


[14-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
the _only_ difference that will ever be, is how subtle it is.


[14-Oct-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's only that the pro-Chinese companies have fucked up ugly right now and people are getting more aware


[14-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be worth going through the big Marvel movies and others aimed heavily at China and checking how much the core messages and tropes match the propaganda of the day


[14-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
`>tfw you play attempt 5d chess and the other guy just does a 2d checkmate` re turkey


[14-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 yeah, except that... no.


[14-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
people bashing blizzard is simple sheep mentality, they didn't suddenly become _aware_


[14-Oct-19 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it might open their minds up to more intricate mentalities though


[14-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
no, the only thing that will open them up is the next trendy flashmob operation.


[14-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
and the next, and then the next.


[14-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
in the meantime they'll keep buying their iShit 13 and whatever else.


[14-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
because their favourite _influencer_ on youtube hadn't told them yet not to


[14-Oct-19 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, capitalism and consumerism are pretty much inescapable


[14-Oct-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/6324ze6t0js31.jpg

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[14-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
plz, Donald Duck doesn't deserve this


[14-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah xD


[14-Oct-19 09:11 PM] ononim#8141
This picture painted a vivid image in my brain of Eeyore saying Please Fuck


[14-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fu onon


[14-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
donald fuck


[14-Oct-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMonkeysPaw/comments/dhkubi/i_wish_donald_trump_would_deliver_his_next_state/

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[14-Oct-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
But @Teaspoon we need to fix Donkey's divinding birth rates


[14-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-erdogan-just-got-played-vladimir-putin-says-terrorism-expert-michael-smith-1465008

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Trump and Erdogan "just got played" by Putin says terrorism expert...
Michael S. Smith II said that by allowing the Turkish invasion into northeastern Syria, Trump and Erdogan have played into Putin's hands.
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[14-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
> A foreign policy and terrorism expert believes President Donald Trump and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan, "just got played" by Russian President Vladimir Putin, after Turkey was permitted to launch its current attack into northeastern Syria.


[14-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMonkeysPaw/comments/dh5uf4/i_wish_chinese_president_xi_jinping_announced_to/

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[14-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
also do note the context of that movie's removal. Chinese girl with this map (obviously internally produced, due to context). So in essence, they're not censoring China's claim. They're censoring the fact that China feeds it's propaganda to it's citizens :D


[14-Oct-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"just got played by putin"


[14-Oct-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
?


[14-Oct-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they played themselves lmao


[14-Oct-19 09:18 PM] ononim#8141
**W H O   M U S T   G O ?
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[14-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
well, putin played trump, and putin also played erdogan via trump


[14-Oct-19 09:19 PM] ononim#8141
Imagine the size of Assad's luck stat

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[14-Oct-19 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, maybe, but i think this speaks more of Trump's gross diplomatic incompetence than Putin's cunning


[14-Oct-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
if you said to me four years ago what he wouldn't not only won the war in some sense but won practically fully, I would call you on bullshit

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[14-Oct-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
and yet


[14-Oct-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
Trump senility and Watermelon Seller's Ottoman LARP deliverd it stright to him


[14-Oct-19 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
what's this watermelon seller thing


[14-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaict, memri quote

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[14-Oct-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2a3d4894a69d4f24814f3fd66e49a2e9

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Ex-National Security Council official testifying to Congress
WASHINGTON (AP) — Fiona Hill, a former top National Security Council expert on Russia, was testifying to Congress behind closed doors Monday, the latest former Trump administration official to be...
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[14-Oct-19 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Politics of smack time https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318130317485539340/633364083407847476/IMG_20191014_140142838.jpg

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[14-Oct-19 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thumb seperates where the foot notes and citations all are from the main body.


[14-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
too much? Too little? Too irrelevant? 🤔


[14-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
what's the problem here?


[14-Oct-19 10:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nothing. Just trying to differentiate. It's easy to see the whole book as being that thick until you peel off the bit you don't need to read unless you're doing some independent follow-through. You don't read the sources on a Wikipedia article, after all.


[14-Oct-19 10:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uk-turkey-arms-sales-syria-kurds-germany-france-netherlands-eu-embargo-a9155536.html

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UK refuses to join France, Germany and Netherlands in halting arms...
EU leaders ‘condemn’ Turkey action against Kurds in strong terms
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[14-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
'strong terms' huh


[14-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
busting out the big guns


[14-Oct-19 11:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@AaronMk definitely not after Bell Pottinger incident


[14-Oct-19 11:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It probably doesn't help that there are indications that the ISIS prisoners that escaped could head towards the EU for refuge


[14-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
What did Turkey promise Trump? Trump did the exact same thing a year ago but backed down when his national security adviser quit,


[14-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think I get it now.


[15-Oct-19 12:15 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
is it true?

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[15-Oct-19 12:15 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
Press X to doubt


[15-Oct-19 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm sorry but I don't read Chinaieform


[15-Oct-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna need a translation.


[15-Oct-19 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It says the president of Taiwan died


[15-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it means Su Beng, ideological leader of Taiwan's independence and democratic governance, yes he died recently at 100.


[15-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVA5j7ypbog

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[15-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsai_Ing-wen

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Tsai Ing-wen (Peh-oe-ji: Chhòa Eng-bûn, [t͡sʰua˧˩ ʔɪŋbun˨˦], born 31 August 1956) is a Taiwanese politician and professor who is serving as the President of the Republic of China, commonly known as Taiwan, since May 20, 2016. The first woman to be elected to the of...
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[15-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
afaict still alive


[15-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Beng

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Su Beng (9 November 1918 – 20 September 2019; Chinese: 史明; pinyin: Shĭ Míng; Wade–Giles: Shih Ming; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Sú-bêng), born Lin Chao-hui (林朝暉; Lín Cháohuī; Lin Ch'ao-Hui; Lîm Tiâu-hui, and later known as Shih Chao-hui (施朝暉; Shī Cháohuī; S...
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[15-Oct-19 01:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
At least 6 people killed in prison in the UK each year and it isn't really news but a pedo ends up being one of the 6 and suddenly all the politics are about prison safety reform.
Why the fuck the UK be like this?


[15-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
well I guess people have suddenly become aware, like with Blizzard xD


[15-Oct-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean prison safety reform should happen no matter what


[15-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't call it wasted effort by itself, but I'd think in prison environment if you want to kill someone, you can do it. Safety or not.


[15-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
unless you lock the potential target in solitary. Then you need to have shenanigans involved.


[15-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
would maybe reduce casual violence though.


[15-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/465776-press-wheres-the-smoking-gun#

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Press: Where's the smoking gun?
It’s tempting to compare the impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump to the aborted attempt to impeach Richard Nixon, especially since Trump is channeling Nixon by stonewalling Congress: no documents, no witnesses, no cooperation. But the similarities end there.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_trumpdonald_092519getty_lead.jpg


[15-Oct-19 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
imprisonment should really be much more of a last resort than what we treat it as currently


[15-Oct-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should be running on a reform/rehabilitation system but imprisonment is more profitable


[15-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
people simply can't decide what it's supposed to be. A punishmnt, or treatment, or rehabilitation, or whatever.


[15-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
and as a result you get the worst of all worlds.


[15-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
plus with profit motive somewhere in there.


[15-Oct-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it for at least america has to do with the private prison lobbying against prison reform because they need courts to keep giving them free slaves


[15-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
how commonplace is private prisons?


[15-Oct-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they exist in every state except california now


[15-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
very common


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
no, they still exist in california


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
the last contract expires in 2028 iirc


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
that's when they'll all be gone


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yet the queen today talking about longer prison times and more prisons sentences.


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is way too long


[15-Oct-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does the queen have any power what so ever?


[15-Oct-19 02:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
queens speech is basically pupating for the government.


[15-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, she wants them?


[15-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that they're bad?


[15-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if she wants 'em, fukk her


[15-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anglo law is just insanely punitive and petty and it's pointless.


[15-Oct-19 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She has to say what the government wants to do. You should see all the traditions. this shit is a clown show.


[15-Oct-19 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Black Rod involves slamming a door in the face of the "black rod" that is being announced. then knocking and announcing them again letting them in. Literally supposed to be showing that they are superior or something.


[15-Oct-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c2b8338d087a4d4898d8ac0c12992971

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'Nothing-burger': US-China truce leaves big issues for later
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump heralded a breakthrough in U.S.-China trade talks, and markets rallied in relief over a de-escalation in tensions between the world's two biggest...
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[15-Oct-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
President Donald Trump heralded a breakthrough in U.S.-China trade talks, and markets rallied in relief over a de-escalation in tensions between the world’s two biggest economies.

But closer inspection suggests there isn’t much substance, at least not yet, to the temporary truce Trump announced Friday at the White House after the U.S. and China wrapped up their 13th round of trade talks.

Yes, Trump agreed to suspend a tariff hike scheduled for Tuesday on $250 billion worth of Chinese imports. And the president said the Chinese agreed to buy $40 billion to $50 billion in U.S. farm products.

But nothing’s on paper and details are scarce. China’s state-run media hasn’t even mentioned the promise to buy all those soybeans and other agricultural products.


[15-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/10/north-carolina-sheriff-prohibits-employee-cohabitation-before-marriage-because-god/

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North Carolina Sheriff Prohibits Employee Cohabitation Before Marr...
Sheriff forbids employees from living in sin: A Bible-thumping sheriff in North Carolina is under fire after issuing a new policy forbidding employees from cohabitation without being “officially married according to the law and word of God.”
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[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people wonder why I take non-family living together for not financial reasons in FiM as signs of official couples.


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
employees of what?


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
ooof. Sheriff the hand of God


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
His employees.


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
>     The Scotland County Sheriff’s Office in North Carolina has a brand new policy for all employees moving forward: If you decide to move in with your boyfriend or girlfriend before getting married, you could be fired since you’re making God sad.


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a sheriff.


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
> making God sad


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[15-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
2019, everyone.


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare the new deputy get a place with his fiancee.


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw we hurt the god baby's feewings


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hurt god? Good, shoot again.


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aim for the head.


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
as retarded as it is though, why did it make the news?


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes pelase, god is a dick


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
he's very much irrelevant


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It made the news because this kind of thing is generally illegal in the US


[15-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And is often intended to discriminate.


[15-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, gays are the likely indirect target.


[15-Oct-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either that or his partner dumped his ass and now he;s trying to make people suffer to make himself feel better


[15-Oct-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either way, pretty sure this is illegal


[15-Oct-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he;s the sheriff so he makes the law! is probably how he thinks this job works


[15-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
most likely.


[15-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Discrimination aside for the moment, it's a problem for an employer to really care about your personal life in a way where they are foisting their religious values upon you.


[15-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when they're in gov't.


[15-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a separation of church and state issue.


[15-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conceptually, employers should only care about what you do on the job or that affects the job.


[15-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether you liv with your spouse prior to marriage has shitall to do with your job.


[15-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this is just plain abusing authority to push values on someone.


[15-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is bad.


[15-Oct-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[15-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you allow this thing, it runs headlong into discrimination being easy.


[15-Oct-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a major issue withtrump as well who keeps trying to push bills to allow work place discrimination under the guise of "religious freedom"


[15-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, the church shouldn't tell me how to liv my life unless I fukking am a part of it, and I am not.


[15-Oct-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isn't the old party grand?


[15-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If my employer tells me I'm not following his christian values, he can fukk the hell off.


[15-Oct-19 02:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1183808145589723136?s=21

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[15-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/11/12/363511888/why-the-kkk-is-reaching-out-beyond-white-folks

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Why The KKK Is Reaching Out Beyond White Folks
Ku Klux Klan groups are diversifying their aims and marketing themselves to people of color. But these moves aren't new: The Klan has long tried to position itself as a mainstream civic organization.
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[15-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
old, but wat


[15-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.dw.com/en/joker-film-sparks-outrage-for-using-song-by-convicted-pedophile-gary-glitter/a-50821498

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'Joker' film sparks outrage for using song by convicted pedophile ...
The use of the song, Rock n' Roll Part 2, has set off an ample amount of concern and criticism as many think it means that Glitter will be collecting royalties.
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[15-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Figured people'd find SOMETHING to latch onto.


[15-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
well, the media found their outrage outlet


[15-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if we find out that George Washington was a pedo we hav to destroy America.


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
GOP is _way_ ahead of you


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
> film has had mixed reviews


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
not among viewers


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP: Yes he was a pedo, but we can't just delete history, we hav to keep his traditions going. Rape those blakk children.


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
critics have mixed reviews for it because it's not a traditional movie, so they can't break it down without ruining the experience


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is why making things a binary choice is veeeeeery bad.


[15-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
viewers love it


[15-Oct-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to see joker, it looks like a really good movie


[15-Oct-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also a really depressing movie


[15-Oct-19 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's good to see some unique movies coming out, i hope this trend continues a bit


[15-Oct-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
tired of superhero movies


[15-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
cawvengers


[15-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
cawssemble


[15-Oct-19 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope that horror movie aquaman spinoff is good


[15-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`horror movie aquaman`
what


[15-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's called "The Trench"


[15-Oct-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s not an aquaman movie, it;s a spinoff of the series featuring a villain species from a comic mini series of the same name


[15-Oct-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s a monster horror movie that takes place in the aquaman universe


[15-Oct-19 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am loving this new angle DC has taken with villain themed movies


[15-Oct-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
abuts


[15-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
covfefe


[15-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abuts is a real word, and he used it correctly, surprisingly.


[15-Oct-19 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
(of an area of land or a building) be next to or have a common boundary with.
"gardens abutting Prescott Street"
touch or lean on.
"masonry may crumble where a roof abuts it"


[15-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
huh.


[15-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wonder if he had an aide make that sentence.


[15-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
okay then.


[15-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like "abuts and is" is a very unusual construct for him.


[15-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even ignoring the vocabulary.


[15-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's something you'd expect from a college graduate.


[15-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He probably just read a quote from some century-old politician


[15-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyway, I hope history remembers Trump as a key player in the 2020 genocide of the Kurds


[15-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
trump will probably be remembered as an aborted hitler


[15-Oct-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the aborted elderly hitler fetus that sadly came to pass


[15-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-cruz/hk-leader-ditches-meeting-ted-cruz-says-the-us-senator-idUSKBN1WR0B7

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HK leader ditches meeting Ted Cruz, says the U.S. senator
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam scrapped a meeting with U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, the h...
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[15-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
> Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam scrapped a meeting with U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, the highest profile U.S. politician to visit the city since anti-government protests broke out more than four months ago, the senator said on Saturday.


[15-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
> Lam’s office had requested that the afternoon meeting be completely confidential and that Cruz refrain from speaking with the media about it, Cruz told journalists in Hong Kong.


[15-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
> “She seems to misunderstand how free speech operates, and also how freedom of the press operates,” said Cruz, a Republican senator from Texas and a vocal critic of China who was stopping in Hong Kong for two days as part of a regional tour.


[15-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I know it's just PR, but still


[15-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess he's planning on 2024


[15-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ZOa4Dbt.jpg

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[15-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
heh, as if.


[15-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
the world has written them off already.


[15-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
that's probably why the HS dude did what he did.


[15-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
he didn't much care about personal consequences anymore.


[15-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Cute that any Republican thinks the Trump family won't dominate 2024


[15-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll have Jr. or Ivanka and you will like it.


[15-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not if they're in jail.


[15-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then Gaetz or Jordan.


[15-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Warren really does have a good chance in 2020


[15-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like that she scares the fuck out of the Zucc.


[15-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make the robot feel fear.


[15-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To the point where he's meeting with Ben Shapiro to help himself.


[15-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Her trolling FB ads were great


[15-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you won't take down lies, I might as well lie too"


[15-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And she got them to say "yeah we'd keep her lies up too if she said them"


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want Warren/Pete. I was indecisive a lot, but I think about a year out that's my ideal.


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Warren/Yang


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I want my 1k USD/month


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete's boring/center enough


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GIMME CASH


[15-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus Yang is actually really well spoken


[15-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make Yang Secretary of the Treasury


[15-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do like him but I don't necessarily believe UBI is the be-all end-all answer


[15-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It isn't


[15-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it gets people thinking about how things work


[15-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, part of the reason why I consider Warren and Sanders basically identical is that they both support an act that would be good


[15-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure Biden would cave to it too


[15-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like Bernie, but the age thing will be played hard against him


[15-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren at least has some humor unlike Hillary


[15-Oct-19 04:44 AM] ononim#8141
how younger warren than he is


[15-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/14/20912221/bernie-sanders-corporate-accountability-ftc-merger-tax

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Bernie Sanders’s plan to reshape corporate America, explained
Bernie Sanders has a plan to give workers ownership at their companies.
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[15-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Asked over the weekend how he differentiates himself with Warren, Sanders told ABC, “Elizabeth considers herself—if I got the quote correctly—to be a capitalist to her bones. I don’t. And the reason I am not is because I will not tolerate for one second the kind of greed and corruption and income and wealth inequality and so much suffering that is going on in this country today, which is unnecessary.”


[15-Oct-19 04:45 AM] ononim#8141
also tbh comparing to the other two boomer males, Bernie looks fresh like a a forest after spring


[15-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-differences-2020-presidential-campaign

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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-differences-2020-presidential-campaign
Why the Differences Between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders Matter
Denying that there are differences between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, and that those differences matter, is absurd. One candidate has a suite of progressive policy proposals; the other has stronger versions of those policies plus a commitment to building a movement ...
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[15-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
> On the policies themselves, Bernie’s solutions are more systemic and far-reaching. Warren’s and Sanders’s relationships to the Democratic Party and to Democratic Party donors are indicative of contrasting approaches to the political elite. And their bases of support demonstrate very unequal capacities to build the kind of movements we need on the ground to take on the billionaire class.


[15-Oct-19 04:46 AM] ononim#8141
afaik warren is also considrebly worse on outer politics


[15-Oct-19 04:47 AM] ononim#8141
Mind you, she's still imo second best from the dems, and if I was a yank (banish such thought!) and I had to choose between her or Trump or hell a run of the mill repub I would vote for her


[15-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
> Warren is certainly a breath of fresh air over the “please and thank you” candidates, but she falls short of calling for systemic transformation. She is, in her words, a “capitalist to her bones” and a believer in the ultimate good of the markets. Many of her proposals leave the door open to further compromise down the line — such as the claim that Medicare for All is a good “framework,” with little by way of concrete commitment as to whether private insurance will be eliminated outright and whether health-care services will be free. And her campaign has consciously cultivated her reputation as a more palatable liberal alternative to Bernie, one that even Brookings Institution fellows can swallow.


[15-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wall Street _hates_ her


[15-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Almost more than Bernie because at least Bernie is aggressively against them


[15-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
if they hate her, they'd literally be hiring assassins to kill bernie if he won


[15-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren would allow an uncomfortable existence for them


[15-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Just four years ago, both Sanders and Warren were political outliers, and no mainstream Democrat would touch “fringe” issues like Medicare for All or a Green New Deal with a ten-foot pole. Ten years ago, vague promises of “Yes, we can” seemed enough to win hearts and minds and then sell us more of the same old “No, we can’t.” Twenty years ago, Democratic candidates refused to even admit they were “liberals,” let alone radicals or socialists."


[15-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is like neoliberals/neoconservatives put a pause button on political development in the US for decades


[15-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stat charts were pointing up, there were more celebs every day and they were making more money, skyscrapers were being built everywhere, big businesses were spreading


[15-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why rock the boat when everything seemed to be going great


[15-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in the rich's best interests if both sides are just fighting each other


[15-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not actually making changes.


[15-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do wonder if we'll ever have a liberal Hollywood elite president


[15-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like just a random celebrity


[15-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oprah in 20 years maybe


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed she or Ellen doesn't try.


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not yet, they're too young


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they need to spend time building up a political career first.


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ellen is 61


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too young.


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oprah's 65


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're a geritocracy.


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to be 70 to run for president at this point basically.


[15-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause boomers are holding on hard.


[15-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Sparta probably failed in large part cause people over 65 were really in charge.


[15-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which meant no adaptability


[15-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Ellen and Oprah start now, they might be able to run for president in 12 years.


[15-Oct-19 04:58 AM] ononim#8141
Ellen the War Criminal befriender?


[15-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She'll dance and distract you about that.


[15-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wall Street would love her.


[15-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll give this to Republicans (for once) but they never, ever forget the things Clinton did wrong.


[15-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone has forgotten how shitty GW was


[15-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like imagine a Trump that says dumb shit and then is too dumb to even make a retort on Twitter to people criticizing him


[15-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't wait to see Steyer at the debate tomorrow, will be a mess


[15-Oct-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The millionnaire?


[15-Oct-19 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[15-Oct-19 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who got famous by spending millions to drum up impeachment support


[15-Oct-19 07:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/4-day-workweek-for-americans-bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-2019-10

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The prospect of a 4-day American workweek may gain a powerful ally...
Sanders' openness to cutting the number of hours in the workweek of Americans could transform the debate around an issue at the fringe for decades.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5da49133cc4a0a531c76f8a6?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Oct-19 07:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I also recommend this Chapo interview with Naomi Klein on her new book. https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/358-world-on-a-wire-feat-naomi-klein-101419

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358 - World on a Wire feat. Naomi Klein (10/14/19)
We're joined by author Naomi Klein to discuss climate change, a green new deal and what it must include, and new developments in responses to ecological crisis from both the right and the left.

Check
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[15-Oct-19 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2019/10/11/for-the-first-time-in-history-us-billionaires-paid-a-lower-tax-rates-than-the-working-class-what-we-should-do-about-it/

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For The First Time In History, U.S. Billionaires Paid A Lower Tax ...
U.S. billionaires paid a lower tax rate than the working class in 2018.
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[15-Oct-19 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[15-Oct-19 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't imagine why...


[15-Oct-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Oct-19 01:33 PM] ononim#8141

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[15-Oct-19 02:24 PM] byte[]#2610
History channel before ayyliens


[15-Oct-19 02:24 PM] byte[]#2610
rip old history channel


[15-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Treascair#7785
and before it was the Hitler-y Channel... or am I the only one that remembers the *constant* WWII programming for about four years running?


[15-Oct-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no that definitely happened


[15-Oct-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then for awhile it was mayan apocalypse theories


[15-Oct-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then it was aliens, then pawn stars and other reality shows, and now it;s the red neck antiquing channel featuring aliens


[15-Oct-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because hearing the price of a historical item is apparently better than learning the actuall history behind said item...


[15-Oct-19 03:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even your corpse can't escape the profit machine. https://twitter.com/MelodyPetersen/status/1183370279608700928?s=19

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With little public notice, companies have moved into county morgues across the country to harvest bones, skin and other parts before the coroner’s autopsy.  We found dozens of death investigations have been compromised. 
Part one of our investigation
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[15-Oct-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/767054f1f99f40199a80bfea8e16ccdf

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Trump threatens to 'destroy' Turkey's economy with sanctions
WASHINGTON (AP) — Targeting Turkey's economy, President Donald Trump announced sanctions aimed at restraining the Turks' assault against Kurdish fighters and civilians in Syria — an assault Turkey...
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[15-Oct-19 05:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/465836-fox-news-legal-analyst-hunter-bidens-work-overseas-looks-bad-but-none-of-it-is#

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Fox News legal analyst: Hunter Biden's work overseas 'looks bad, b...
Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said early Tuesday that Hunter Biden's work overseas "looks bad, but none of it is criminal."
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[15-Oct-19 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't even look bad?


[15-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol that Forbes article


[15-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
it starts to say MAYBE THIS ISN'T BAD and then talks about how we'll totally just be able to make the tax system fairer.


[15-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Odd slogan, tbh

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[15-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It was a quid pro quo, but not a corrupt one"- apparently what Sondland plans on testifying


[15-Oct-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PAVr4V1suY

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Joker Wasn't The Movie We Deserved, But The One We Needed | Jack Saint
Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS: https://clik.cc/ywGLl ✅ ANDROID: https://clik.cc/6b8E5 Start with💰50K silver and get a Free Epic Champion 💥 on day 7 of “New Pla...
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[15-Oct-19 09:15 PM] ononim#8141
New vid from my favourite SJW boi about Community Jester


[15-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sale ditched Rudy, wow


[15-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Watergate lawyer he hired to defend him


[15-Oct-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Oct-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
SMACK BOYE


[15-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty interesting read.


[15-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
also goes to show in a roundabout way that 'laws is whatever works at the time'


[15-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
not a sacred immutable pillar of civilisation the name implies (derived from 'laws of nature', implied to be equal to them)


[15-Oct-19 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Oct-19 09:55 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
weeellll I'd argue Soviet Union did not entirely crush opium trade. They couldn't or wouldn't, I don't know, but there's plenty of passing references to it in books from 70ies-80ies at the very least. Probably earlier too. But that might be them losing the Cold War.


[15-Oct-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is only the first twenty pages. There's some five-hundred left to go. But driving heroin use to extinction isn't a heroin use of zero, often. It can be considered statistically non-existent at a few thousand, sort of like farmers in the US. The population of independent farmers is so small in America the census has stopped tracking it. But there's enough who show up at farmer's markets.


[15-Oct-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a debate tonight apparently


[15-Oct-19 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yup, in Ohio


[15-Oct-19 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bidens going to say more racist shit


[15-Oct-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Got recommended this classic hitchslap https://youtu.be/doKkOSMaTk4

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Berkeley Man
https://youtu.be/doKkOSMaTk4
Christopher Hitchens on Hannity & Colmes about Rev. Falwell's Death
Christopher Hitchens along with Ralph Reed participate in a debate on the legacy of the Reverend Jerry Falwell. This was recorded from the Hannity and Colmes...
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[15-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465920-read-giuliani-letter-refuses-to-comply-with-congressional-subpoena#

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READ: Giuliani letter refusing to comply with congressional subpoena
President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday told Congress he won't comply with a congressional subpoena for his documents and communications.
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[15-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
1 page lel


[15-Oct-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Congressional Police Powers, Activate


[15-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
`1 page lel`


[15-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
how large would it normally be?


[15-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More than this


[15-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lock him up tbh


[15-Oct-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
summary of the above clip:
Hannity invites Hitchens on and attacks him for attacking Falwell
Hitchens explains why he thinks Falwell is a nutcase
Hannity doubles down on his statement and attacks Hitchens again, at which point he responds that he doesn't understand why he was asked to be on
Commercial break
This entire process repeats
Hitchens tries to go into more detail about the specific reasons Falwell is a fraud
Colmes redirects the conversation into something completely different
Hitchens gives up


[15-Oct-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Why would you invite someone on to a talk show if you didn't want them to talk


[15-Oct-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to yell at thme like a mad gorilla and try and make them look bad

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[15-Oct-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I miss you Hitch


[15-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/moodys-trump-on-his-way-to-an-easy-2020-win-if-economy-holds-up.html

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Trump is on his way to an easy win in 2020, according to Moody's a...
Moody's three models show Trump getting at least 289 electoral votes, assuming average turnout.
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[15-Oct-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/syria-war-turkey-kurds-latest-isis-trump-france-philippe-iraq-a9156881.html

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France says Trump's withdrawal of troops in Syria will lead to res...
Edouard Philippe says says decision is 'devastating' for security
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/10/15/16/Edouard-Philippe.jpg


[15-Oct-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
France says ISIS resurgence "inevitable" after Trump decision to allow Turkish offensive


[15-Oct-19 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump and the Republicans undid the fight against ISIS.
> 
> For nothing. Literally, nothing at all.


[15-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well, luckily for US it's EU problem now xD


[15-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
EU might even escalate their 'strong terms' and express 'growing concern'


[15-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/15/medicare-for-all-hospital-tenet/

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For-Profit Hospital Industry Is Leading Fight Against Medicare for All
Tenet Healthcare, the nation’s third-largest investor-owned operator of hospitals, has donated nearly $630,000 to the Partnership for America’s Health Care Future.
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[15-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Of course they are


[15-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
It's MASSIVE fraud at every single level


[15-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
And nobody wants to be found out when the government peers into their inner workings


[15-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
The US is a scam country


[15-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Every single thing has scam built into it


[16-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/465960-pelosi-no-house-vote-on-impeachment-inquiry

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Pelosi: No House vote on impeachment inquiry
Speaker Nancy Pelosi continued to stand firm Tuesday, insisting she will not stage a vote on the House floor to officially launch an impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
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[16-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay then so how are you expecting this to work


[16-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
What do you mean, the Gilded Age never ended?


[16-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:trixdisgust:


[16-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465964-graham-opens-door-to-calling-hunter-biden-to-testify

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Graham opens door to calling Hunter Biden to testify
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) opened the door on Tuesday to calling Hunter Biden, former Vice President Joe Biden's son, to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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[16-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wants Rudy first


[16-Oct-19 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/yyxs5ruw8os31.jpg

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[16-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
my college celebrated native american day instead of columbus day this semester


[16-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
had class normally yesterday, had friday off 2 days before native american day


[16-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
though afaik there's a lot fewer classes taught on friday at my college than monday/tuesday/wednesday/thursday


[16-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
so less people actually got to benefit from the day off


[16-Oct-19 01:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇬🇧 We are here to take your land. "hau". Like this 🔫


[16-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
with liberal application of NBC warfare as well :P in the form of europe's deseases and alcohol.


[16-Oct-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] well at least they acknowlege the natives had their lands stolen and exploited by the capitalist minded colonizers


[16-Oct-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
god conservatives are so contradictory


[16-Oct-19 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this is what basing your identity on "not ever being a libtard" looks like


[16-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/us-military-carries-out-show-of-force-in-syria-over-turkish-backed-fighters.html

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US military carries out 'show of force' in Syria after Turkish-bac...
U.S. military aircraft carried out a "show of force" in Syria after Turkish-backed fighters came in close proximity to American forces during a Turkish offensive into northeastern Syria, a U.S. official told Reuters.
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[16-Oct-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newser.com/story/281706/one-more-wrinkle-in-turkey-chaos-50-us-nukes.html

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One More Wrinkle in Turkey Chaos: 50 US Nukes
Pentagon reportedly rethinking whether it's still safe to keep them there
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[16-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/14/us-bombs-at-turkish-airbase-complicate-rift-over-syria-invasion

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US nuclear bombs at Turkish airbase complicate rift over Syria inv...
US officials said to be looking at moving nuclear devices as Congress plans sanctions
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[16-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is the debate tonight focused on Steyers tie so far


[16-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has one plaid tie and that's all he wears ever


[16-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/democratic-debate-october-2019/index.html

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[16-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Only started like 5 minutes ago


[16-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh, or not


[16-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Moody model has to scare some people


[16-Oct-19 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, me, because I'm gonna have it beaten over my head by my nothingburger friends


[16-Oct-19 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
despite the "assuming average voter turnout" caveat which is a bold assumption to make


[16-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bold statement to make given 2018


[16-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then again there are still diehard "socialist" Bernie Bros


[16-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you have a rose emoji but put your foot down at Warren lmao


[16-Oct-19 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You're gonna have to run that "rose emoji" thing past me again


[16-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(symbolism)#Socialism_and_social_democracy

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[16-Oct-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, Warren's a self-proclaimed capitalist


[16-Oct-19 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not a great mystery, even though Sanders *himself* is more capitalist than socialist


[16-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who is hated by Wall Street and has the most comprehensive labor policy since FDR that demands boards have employee-elected representatives on them


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Super capitalist


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
yes, bernie's a self-proclaimed democratic socialist, even though all of his stated policies are social democratic in nature


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's probably why companies don't fear him


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SocDem is still capitalist


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
like they fear warren


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The difference is she's the kind of capitalist who thinks regulation is necessary


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and yeah


[16-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
nothing that bernie has stated is purely socialist in nature


[16-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the difference between bernie being a frontrunner and warren being a frontrunner is that he mislabelled himself


[16-Oct-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I mean if Mitt Romney can be called a socialist, hey, jump in the water's great


[16-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
bernie is basically warren except willing to shut everything down to make sure things get done


[16-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie will shut things down


[16-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren will make it so uncomfortable/trust bust that they shut themselves down


[16-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the difference


[16-Oct-19 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course all of this assumes that we make it to 2020 in one piece


[16-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My theory has always been that the current discourse/reality is always what everyone has wanted


[16-Oct-19 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right now it looks like the GOP leadership is testing the waters with theocratic rhetoric


[16-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, they'll go for a Trump in 2024


[16-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jr. if Trump wins in 2020, Ivanka if he doesn't


[16-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if trump loses 2020, manages to fight off all the charges against him, and then runs again in 2024 or 2028


[16-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too old by then.


[16-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to see  Democrat win in 2020 simply because any current candidate would absolute try court packing


[16-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like Buttigieg's plan to prevent it


[16-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Barring a political dynasty that gets elected constantly it would ensure impartiality


[16-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(add one appointable justice, then make five more positions that are picked by the 10 appointed justices, not the president or the legislature)


[16-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure supreme court justices used to require 60 in the senate to be appointed


[16-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
but then they used the nuclear option to get rid of that in order to appoint gorsuch and kavanaugh


[16-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The ultimate goal should be eradicating political angles in the judiciary


[16-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't like how the real people who choose appointments are basically lobbyist groups who say "here's a list, pick"


[16-Oct-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hot-take: lobbying as a concept isn't a bad idea since it's predicated on the idea the people should petition the government which has been a thing even the Roman Republic did but in a more weirdly personal way, according to at least one ancient-ass source that itself was describing Rome a few degrees removed and then translated. But what lobbying does is reveal the mass inequalities of political power that exists in American society from those with the mass capital to get the resources vs literally everyone else.


[16-Oct-19 05:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a reference, the way executive leader(s) of the Roman Republic are said to have taken walks around Rome with a guy carrying a bag and anyone with a concern or petition would drop it in the bag and the guy would read them when he gets home.


[16-Oct-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unfortunately the source was Chinese who didn't have a word for a Consul or Senator so the guy used Emperor and General respectively.


[16-Oct-19 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe if we didn't treat corporations like people


[16-Oct-19 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's thinkin' in the right direction.


[16-Oct-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a very weak alternative for what I might otherwise call for, empower unions as entities at the table too if we can let all of telecoms pools resources to petition government. Re-empower the unions and then some. Even get them to federate, though I'd say the federation bit should not be a government thing. It has to be a very Grass Roots thing so the members have ownership and not whatever structure the State wants, as is pretty much the case in Mexico.


[16-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/us/politics/aoc-endorses-bernie-sanders.html

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Ilhan Omar Endorses Bernie Sanders, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez W...
“I believe Bernie Sanders is the best candidate to take on Donald Trump in 2020,” Ms. Omar said. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez will appear with Mr. Sanders at a rally on Saturday.
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[16-Oct-19 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk I support the PRO Act but don't know where a candidate that gets it would go from there


[16-Oct-19 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like you basically made Taft-Hartley irrelevant, what now?


[16-Oct-19 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Believe me, there are a lot of shitty unions that don't care about anything but dues.


[16-Oct-19 06:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's for the people on the streets to decide. Something like federating labor can only really - or should - be done by activity within the unions themselves by the members of the unions. It's not some a political office holder can or should do but to keep the government from acting on it. Once labor has the centralized power to do the thing, they can go ahead and clear them a seat.


[16-Oct-19 06:49 AM] Crow#5457
mandate that every company have the workers control a majority stake minimum


[16-Oct-19 06:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Federalization is something I understand the IWW wanting to do. But they're not in the position they should be; but they've gotten stronger with Trump in office because people decided "fuck it" and joined.


[16-Oct-19 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both the best and worst thing to happen to unions


[16-Oct-19 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just feel super uncomfortable because I think worker owned businesses are an ideal but also want to encourage development


[16-Oct-19 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So its a weird mix of worker's rights and the rights of management I want to balance


[16-Oct-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, elected officials have power mandated by the people


[16-Oct-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
cooperatives still elect people to lead them, even if it turns out to only be a ceremonial position that doesn't have much (or any) power


[16-Oct-19 06:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imo management doesn't so much drive development and in the cases I've read or been told about where things are structures horizontally there's been more freedom to develop shit. It just becomes more for what someone wants to do and can convince others for taking part in that a direct mandate from management simply responding to market predictions.


[16-Oct-19 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
you need visionaries with the will and drive to make progress


[16-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
a good example would be lenin


[16-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
then everything started stagnating as soon as he died and stalin took over


[16-Oct-19 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
if lenin had been able to lead for even 10 years longer, the USSR would likely still be a global superpower


[16-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/erdogan-trump-turkey-syria-ceasefire-sanctions-a9157621.html

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Erdogan tells Trump that Turkey will 'never declare ceasefire' in ...
Turkish president rejects calls to halt northeastern Syria offensive as Donald Trump pulls troops out of region
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/10/15/18/Turkey-Syria.jpg


[16-Oct-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
so I guess it's up to trump to go through with his "economy-destroying" sanctions


[16-Oct-19 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
we wouldn't be in this fucking mess if it weren't for idiot-king trump


[16-Oct-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/us/politics/fact-check-october-debate.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/us/politics/fact-check-october-debate.html
Fact-Checking the Democratic Debate
Our reporters followed all of the exchanges and fact-checked the candidates, providing context and explanation on the policy debates.
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[16-Oct-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
> “I do think it is appropriate to acknowledge that taxes will go up. They’re going to go up significantly for the wealthy and for virtually everybody, the tax increase they pay will be substantially less than what they were paying for premiums and out-of-pocket expenses.”


[16-Oct-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
> This lacks evidence.


[16-Oct-19 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
how you can tell that nytimes is still capitalist


[16-Oct-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, they even admit that it would lead to large savings for a lot of people


[16-Oct-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
in their breakdown


[16-Oct-19 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
they go "oh yeah this will totally lead to savings for a lot of people... BUT"


[16-Oct-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
> But under Medicare for all, Americans who currently pay health insurance premiums or pay directly when they go to the doctor or pharmacy would be relieved of those costs. For most American families, that would be a substantial savings.


[16-Oct-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
> For most American families, that would be a substantial savings.


[16-Oct-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
> **For most American families**


[16-Oct-19 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most American families don't earn 300k USD as editors and contributors at the NYT


[16-Oct-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is their but also extremely positive? why is that a but?


[16-Oct-19 01:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[16-Oct-19 02:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So a couple of Trump's tax documents were obtained through a FOIA request - not all of them, just one or two - and to nobody's surprise there are discrepancies between what was reported to lenders and to the government. Some level of discrepancy can be expected and dismissed, ofc, but not stuff like reporting twice as much rent income to lenders, or differences in insurance payments of over half a million for one property, or failing to report income from cell towers, etc... the two properties showing the greatest inconsistency are the two that were in the most financial trouble in 2015-16 when Trump was running for office.


[16-Oct-19 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
`why is their but also extremely positive? why is that a but?`


[16-Oct-19 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
same reason Biden wasn't decribed as living in his own reality and entirely clueless about what he tried to talk about. The article was supposed to mildly critical all around in tone.


[16-Oct-19 02:48 PM] Opponent#3498
they just failed at it.


[16-Oct-19 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Oct-19 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
C-Comrade O'Reilly???


[16-Oct-19 05:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/BillOReilly/status/1184266332822478848

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Bernie says he promises every American will have a job.  Green New Deal will create 20 million new jobs. Excellent.
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[16-Oct-19 05:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bill O'Reilly to found the American Ba'athist party soon!


[16-Oct-19 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Oct-19 05:41 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Oct-19 05:49 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-19 05:49 PM] ononim#8141
fixed, preview is broken for some reason


[16-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, since when did Turkey ever care about international opinion


[16-Oct-19 05:55 PM] ononim#8141
Since when half of Europe and US sanctions them :dab:


[16-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
half of Europe and US sanction Russia, that didn't seem to have any measurable effect far as I know


[16-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well, no.


[16-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it showed that people were willing to support Ukraine, and that's a big plus.


[16-Oct-19 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Erdogan doesn't care


[16-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
but on a practical level?


[16-Oct-19 05:57 PM] ononim#8141
Russia secured Crimea long before any military action by Ukraine took place, and ukraine doesn't has airforce of big country supporting them in the east


[16-Oct-19 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
neither do most of the Turks, iirc, they still deny that they ever murdered Armenians in an orgnaized fashion


[16-Oct-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
:GWuespThonkVehk:


[16-Oct-19 06:58 PM] Str1ker878#8413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKesJJNfhPc

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Upper Echelon Gamers
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Controlling the Narrative - Google Censorship and Project Veritas
The latest Project Veritas revelations need to be accurately analyzed and there is almost certainly broader context that was removed from the chosen quotes. ...
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[16-Oct-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
are we talking about james okeefe's failed media outlet here


[16-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I like him.


[16-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
```Her summary mostly covers that she recieved threats and hate mail, which to me, honestly here, is a weak and pathetic defense. I recieve hatemail _all the time_ for saying things that people disagree with about video games. I've got death threats, so had average kids on Runescape or Call of Duty, or on Twitch, it happens all the time on numerous platforms. It's the internet. Stop playing the victim, it's a flimsy shield at best.```


[16-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
music to my ears. _Someone_ gets it, and does not hesitate to say it.


[16-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Google the force of good. Shaping society in their mold, ignoring the law because why bother, it aint gonna stop them anyway...


[16-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
interesting times we live in.


[16-Oct-19 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/10/15/open-house/

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Open House
“Graduate Student Azat Miftakhov Is Being Tortured by the FSB!” Protest at Moscow State University’s Open House Day Agniya Galdanova Republic October 15, 2019 Activists from the M…
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[16-Oct-19 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
> Activists from the MSU Pressure Group and Indefinite Protest protested during a speech by Rector Viktor Sadovnichy at Moscow State University’s open house day on October 13.
> “Why are you silent? MSU graduate student Azat Miftakhov is being tortured by the FSB! And Rector Sadovnichy is silent!” shouted Olga Misik, a journalism student at MSU better known as the “constitution girl.”
> Miftakhov, a 25-year-old mechanics and mathematics graduate student at MSU, was detained on February 1, 2019, in Balashikha. He is suspected of making a homemade bomb and attempting to set fire to a United Russia party office. Miftakhov has repeatedly complained of torture while in police custody.


[16-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, they probably do. But he would complain whether they would or not, because everyone does it.


[16-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
wonder what he did to attract attention


[16-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50073102

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UK's controversial 'porn blocker' plan dropped
A plan to force porn sites to verify users' ages will be shelved, says Digital Secretary Nicky Morgan.
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[16-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Big suprise indeed...


[16-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
porn lobby is strong enough to kill any such project eventually.


[16-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
bonus points for the idea being nonsensical to begin with


[16-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
with only possible support from conservative parents


[16-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good riddance.


[16-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/donald-trump-turkey-syria-pence-pompeo/index.html

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Trump claims Turkish incursion into Syria 'has nothing to do with us'
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Turkey's incursion of northern Syria "has nothing to do with us" and added that former US allies -- the Kurds -- are "not angels."
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[16-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Turkey's incursion of northern Syria "has nothing to do with us" and added that former US allies -- the Kurds -- are "not angels."

He also falsely claimed the Kurds "are much safer now," despite his recent decision to pull US forces out of northern Syria -- where the US was fighting alongside Kurds in the region.
"Our soldiers are not in harm's way, as they shouldn't be, as two countries fight over land that has nothing to do with us. And the Kurds are much safer now. The Kurds know how to fight and as I said, they're not angels," Trump said during an Oval Office meeting with Italian President Sergio Mattarella.
"But they fought with us. We paid a lot of money for them to fight with us and that's OK. They did well when they fought with us. They didn't do so well when they didn't fight with us," he added.`


[16-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"If Russia wants to get involved with Syria -- that's really up to them," he added. "They have a problem with Turkey, they have a problem at the border -- it's not our border. We shouldn't be losing lives over it."
"By the way, every player hates ISIS ... Syria more than us. Russia more than us. They've done a big number on Russia. And we're over there fighting ISIS. But they're over there fighting ISIS too. They can handle it. And they should handle it. We can fight our own battles on our own territories," he later added.`


[16-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine Trump as president during ww2


[16-Oct-19 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
He's actually senile


[16-Oct-19 07:58 PM] ononim#8141
demented


[16-Oct-19 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
actively being a detriment to his closest supporters on a mission he sent them to is indeed impressive, even for him.


[16-Oct-19 08:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They are not completely dropping the porn blocker. They are going to try and get it through  "online harms".
:trixdisgust: 🇬🇧 :trixdisgustL:


[16-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
online harms?


[16-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
what would that be?


[16-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"poisoning children's minds with porn"


[16-Oct-19 08:11 PM] ononim#8141
>not having fetish dreams when you were 5-6


[16-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>not when 3


[16-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I meant specifically as a government program? Legislation?


[16-Oct-19 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>not getting boners looking at pictures of naked brazilian natives


[16-Oct-19 08:36 PM] ononim#8141
evryone does that :V


[16-Oct-19 08:36 PM] ononim#8141
also maybe 4?? I am not sure


[16-Oct-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
What I am  sure off is that I was having a dreams with nekkid ladies while I was in kindergarten


[16-Oct-19 08:37 PM] ononim#8141
and I probably can dissect a fetish or a few from them what I developed later


[16-Oct-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-is-stepping-up-where-others-fail-to-act-11571093850

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Opinion | Turkey Is Stepping Up Where Others Fail to Act
Syria’s refugee flows, violence and instability have pushed us to the limit of our tolerance.
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[16-Oct-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously porn is responsible for our children believing trans and brown people hav rights

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[16-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Serra de Bunda will cause miscegenation.


[16-Oct-19 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
Opinion | Japan Is Stepping Up Where Others Fail to Act
Author: His Imperial Majesty Hirohito


[16-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
another one tried to flee https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466071-indicted-giuliani-associate-taken-into-custody-at-new-york-airport

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Fourth defendant in Giuliani associate case taken into custody at ...
The fourth defendant in a case centered around business associates of President Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was detained on Wednesday by authorities at a New York City airport, the U.S.
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[16-Oct-19 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
rats leaving the sinking ship


[16-Oct-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
SS refuses to reveal location of hidden Jews https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ice-moved-700-women-out-of-a-detention-center-and-wont-tell-lawyers-where-they-are_n_5d9cdd55e4b087efdba3fe71?ri18n=true

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ICE Moved 700 Women Out Of A Detention Center And Won’t Tell Law...
Some of the women have serious medical issues, and lawyers worry they could die in detention.
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[16-Oct-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
another one! https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/3kxj49/trump-duterte-phone-call-drug-war-human-rights

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The US President congratulated the Philippine President for an “unbelievable job on the drug problem,” a bloody drug war that has allegedly killed over 20,000 people.
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[16-Oct-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/87yceg/til_that_before_he_became_president_grover/

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TIL that before he became President, Grover Cleveland had an affai...
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[16-Oct-19 09:13 PM] ononim#8141
> TIL that before he became President, Grover Cleveland had an affair with a woman which resulted in her becoming pregnant, and in order to cover up the scandal he had her committed & her child sent to an orphanage.


[16-Oct-19 09:13 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Oct-19 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
for the ukraine call https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/yet-another-federal-court-resurrects-an-emoluments-lawsuit-against-trump/

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Yet Another Federal Court Resurrects an Emoluments Lawsuit Against...
A federal appeals court on Tuesday resurrected a lawsuit claiming that President Donald Trump has been unlawfully profiting from his luxury Washington, D.C. hotel in violation of the constitution’s Emoluments clause.
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[16-Oct-19 09:19 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[16-Oct-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/impeachment-poll-gallup-donald-trump/index.html

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Gallup survey finds 52% support for impeachment
A majority of US adults support the impeachment and removal of President Donald Trump from office, a Gallup poll released Wednesday finds, continuing a trend of recent surveys that have found increased support for the Democratic-led effort.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191011170642-06-trump-1011-super-tease.jpg


[16-Oct-19 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
trump going for impeachment speedrun any%


[16-Oct-19 09:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/calebmaupin/status/1184472581736468481?s=19

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"Abolish Billionaires" is a fundamentally non-Marxist statement.

Read Capital.

The idea is for means of production to be run by a central plan, so unlimited amounts of wealth can be created and living standards rise endlessly.

Worshipping poverty is a middle class devia...
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[16-Oct-19 09:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHBdc5-WwAAgVxa?format=jpg&name=large

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[16-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/466140-top-us-diplomat-bill-taylor-to-testify-before-house-committees

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Top US diplomat Bill Taylor scheduled to testify in impeachment probe
William Taylor, a top U.S. diplomat to Ukraine, is scheduled to testify next week as part of House Democrats' ongoing impeachment inquiry examining President Trump's contacts with Ukraine.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/taylorwilliam_100419getty.jpg


[16-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign"


[16-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of wonder though. Refugees come from some shithole in the world to US. What do they expect would happen?


[16-Oct-19 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
US has undeserved appealing picutre for those who aren't savvy enough about it


[16-Oct-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
After all, it's probably the wealthiest country in the world


[16-Oct-19 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
and people think normal logic applies to it


[16-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this always confused me. The whole concept of 'land of opportunity' means the land of opportunity of savvy to exploit the weak.


[16-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
you come. Illegal. Little  to no language. Stuck at dead-end job at the mercy of whoever wants you, pretty much.


[16-Oct-19 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and there's no good solution at government level for this.


[16-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well, none that would look good in press, at least.


[16-Oct-19 09:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/online-harms-white-paper

Not been updated yet but this is the online harms paper

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Online Harms White Paper
The Online Harms White Paper sets out the government’s plans for a world-leading package of measures to keep UK users safe online.
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[16-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
```Tackling illegal and harmful content and activity online is one part of the UK’s wider mission to develop rules and norms for the internet, including protecting personal data, supporting competition in digital markets and promoting responsible digital design.```


[16-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
ambitious indeed.


[16-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
seems like everyone and their dog wants to make a better world in their personal image


[16-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```Social media platforms and other technology companies increasingly acknowledge that they have a greater responsibility to protect their users from harm. British citizens want to feel empowered to keep themselves and their children safe and secure online. Both the government and industry have a responsibility to ensure this is the case. ```


[16-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
reads like a Soviet Union paper.


[16-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
or a chinese one.


[16-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. I get the picture. Thanks Pwny.


[16-Oct-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-sexeducation/poland-plans-bill-to-criminalize-promoting-underage-sex-idUSKBN1WV1IW

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Polish lawmakers vote for bill criminalizing 'promoting underage sex'
Polish lawmakers on Wednesday voted in favor of a bill to criminalize "the ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191016&t=2&i=1441537869&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9F1HT


[16-Oct-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poland is criminalizing sex education


[16-Oct-19 10:41 PM] ononim#8141
also from Polska, apparently their parlaiment now has a monarchist who made an analys on whenever Yoda is a jew


[16-Oct-19 10:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRYHLUNEs4

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tgstala
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Czy Yoda był Żydem? Analiza Gwiezdnych Wojen w wykonaniu Grzegor...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bYRYHLUNEs4/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Oct-19 10:42 PM] ononim#8141
Tho polish title uses far more.... vulgar term


[16-Oct-19 11:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Jane_Eisner/status/1184443496389926914

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https://twitter.com/Jane_Eisner/status/1184443496389926914
I find it fascinating that women of color overlook female and minority candidates to endorse a white guy. Is 'identity politics' over? Is ideology more important than race and gender? Genuinely curious. @BernieSanders @AOC @IlhanMN  https://t.co/lewR75paDW
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[16-Oct-19 11:33 PM] ononim#8141
holy shit


[16-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Hey dipshit


[16-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Your purity test needs to take a backseat to getting this FUCKHEAD out of office


[16-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
This is not the time to get divided over who is or isn't what race or how "pure" you are


[16-Oct-19 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
It is imperative we elect a democrat in 2020 or the 2024 race may be abolished entirely


[16-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1184505263518294019

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@virgiltexas @Jane_Eisner @BernieSanders @AOC @IlhanMN I am fascinated by the idea that anybody could find this fascinating. 

Did you know that there are some Cuban Americans who don't like Ted Cruz? I know it's crazy. Some white people even voted against Trump.

Also I'v...
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[16-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
> I am fascinated by the idea that anybody could find this fascinating. 
> 
> Did you know that there are some Cuban Americans who don't like Ted Cruz? I know it's crazy. Some white people even voted against Trump.
> 
> Also I've heard there are some Jews who don't like Bernie. So weird.

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[16-Oct-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
This fucking comic man


[16-Oct-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony can you download that image and then upload the file here


[16-Oct-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I want to pin it


[16-Oct-19 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582 (pinned)

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[16-Oct-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[16-Oct-19 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thenib.com/kurds-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place

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Kurds Between a Rock and a Hard Place
There’s one possible way out of this.
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[17-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457

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loss (3) 

[17-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], how about the full one?


[17-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's loss


[17-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
<https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha>


[17-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
this is the source


[17-Oct-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Oct-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow wtf


[17-Oct-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It's loss


[17-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
`poland is criminalizing sex education`


[17-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll learn like everyone else did, when their STD and underage pregnancy rates climb.


[17-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
will take time though.


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>conservatives


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>learning [that their entire worldview is incorrect]


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
people will learn.


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe not the conservatives.


[17-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
those won't be the same people that did this.


[17-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, next generation will be less conservative because they realize what they're taught in school is BS


[17-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
on the not so bright side, that takes 20 years.


[17-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey-nuclear-bombs-hostage-syria.amp

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Turkey holding 50 US nuclear bombs 'hostage' at air base, report says
Ankara is holding up to 50 U.S. nuclear weapons that have long been stored at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey, and U.S. officials are now reviewing plans to evacuate the bombs in the wake of the Turkish military offensive in northern Syria, according to a report.
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[17-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't let Trump know there are nukes in Turkey


[17-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hide that from him, otherwise he will do something very stupid


[17-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Jewel#1143
don't worry his great and ultimate wisdom will lead us out of the disaster he caused


[17-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. He'll gift them to Turkey to shift their maintenance onto poor ailing Turkish economy.


[17-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Jewel#1143
lol


[17-Oct-19 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Erdogan is a very trustworthy person when it comes to handling nukes. Very trustworthy, i know him, believe in me."


[17-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Jewel#1143
he got the US out of a nuclear treaty with Russia


[17-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Jewel#1143
sigh


[17-Oct-19 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can you imagine Trump handing over these nukes to so trustworthy Erdogan, and then one ends up "lost" in an accident and some years later reappears in jihadist hands


[17-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Jewel#1143
I'm not sure if they'd nuke us or a competing middle eastern nation.


[17-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Jewel#1143
I think it would be a hard choice


[17-Oct-19 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"some years" you mean 1 month from now?


[17-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Jewel#1143
or maybe Israel


[17-Oct-19 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I shudder as i just think of that possibility


[17-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Jewel#1143
people think hiroshima or nagasaki was bad


[17-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Jewel#1143
the nukes we have now are much, much worse


[17-Oct-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and much much more vast in number


[17-Oct-19 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I didnt think my prediction that turmp would get us nuked would actually become reality


[17-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/466193-gop-senators-worry-planned-graham-letter-to-pelosi-could-raise-questions

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GOP senators worry planned Graham letter to Pelosi could raise que...
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is facing pushback from some of his Republican colleagues over his plan to send a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) warning that the caucus won’t remove President Trump from office.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_101619gn6_lead.jpg


[17-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically the optics behind this letter are awful and a bunch of the Senate GOP is pointing it out


[17-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if they don't get everyone to sign onto it


[17-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 poll coalescing is showing majority support for impeachment...


[17-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an admission of saying "we will not look at anything, we've already made our decision"


[17-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Harris and Beto lost the debate, it seems.


[17-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
People see them more unfavorably.


[17-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar and Warren meanwhile are up.


[17-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and Bernie almost no change.


[17-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is virtually certain at this point.


[17-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“I will sign the letter, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s necessarily a good idea."


[17-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What


[17-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-october-democratic-debate-in-6-charts/

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The October Democratic Debate In 6 Charts
Last night, 12 candidates duked it out in Westerville, Ohio, in the fourth Democratic debate. Sen. Elizabeth Warren built on her past debate successes, receivin…
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[17-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means McConnell is twisting his arm, @Itsthinking


[17-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They want the trial done by Christmas


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could do it tomorrow and I think some Republicans would vote to remove.


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well no shit, Gardner and Romney for sure.


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shit is being poured on the fan.


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Collins


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only need 16 more.


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Murkowski maybe?


[17-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Almost certainly, she felt betrayed by Sessions.


[17-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[17-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who else


[17-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz?


[17-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe


[17-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another group that may be the thing that pushes it are people like Blunt, Cotton, and Risch


[17-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or Sasse


[17-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of them really care about sucking dick


[17-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seeing the following as suggestions: Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Romney, Rubio, Toomey, and Wicker


[17-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sasse too


[17-Oct-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz would follow them just to try and head off a threat from Dems later down the road.


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think if you get a dozen the wall would collapse


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's 14 all told.


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Needs 5 more.


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 more by Christmas is doable.


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
14 suspected yes votes would likely push 5 to it


[17-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly, yes.


[17-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the remaining 5 will wait to see how big the Rudy fire grows.


[17-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And big it will grow.


[17-Oct-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Rudy denied congressional subpoena


[17-Oct-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Did Sondland testify yet


[17-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think tomorrow


[17-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taylor on Tuesday


[17-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/us/politics/gordon-sondland-intelligence-risk.html

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Ex-Aide Saw Gordon Sondland as a Potential National Security Risk
A former top White House adviser viewed Mr. Sondland, a Trump donor and the ambassador to the European Union, as a risk because he was so unprepared for his job.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/16/us/politics/16dc-sondland1/16dc-sondland1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Jewel#1143
@Itsthinking The reason they'd sign but not agree is because of party unity.


[17-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Jewel#1143
Which is one of those "this is the reason parties are bad" arguments


[17-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[17-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1167123.shtml

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US freedom of speech shows true face
The US is a country that puts great emphasis on politics. Its ideology is often extreme. American society ranks highest on exclusiveness of viewpoints beyond its “political correctness.” The next time the US advocates “universal values” such as “freedom of speech”...
http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2019/2019-10-16/6a76d65c-dfa8-4052-88ae-450d559823e7.jpeg


[17-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Such a scene impressed Chinese society deeply - "freedom of speech" in the US is indeed fake. It must be based on political correctness. In other words, as Morey's support for Hong Kong protests is in line with US political correctness, it should be categorized as "freedom of speech" which must be strongly defended. But James' criticism of Morey, which is not politically correct enough, has nothing to do with freedom of speech."


[17-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't fucking get it


[17-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans can shit on other Americans for their beliefs


[17-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Jewel#1143
people really don't understand how ignorant and backwards a lot of China is


[17-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like they're upset here that people get criticized for their publicly stated beliefs


[17-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466195-sondland-could-provide-more-clues-on-ukraine-controversy

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Sondland could provide more clues on Ukraine controversy
A key diplomat and donor to President Trump is scheduled to appear Thursday before three House committees in highly anticipated testimony that could shed more light on the Ukraine controversy roiling the nation’s capital.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_051419getty_lead.jpg


[17-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking they're right though. That's how I'd see it if I were in their shoes.


[17-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No they are not


[17-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
americans can shit on other americans true, but it follows the trends.


[17-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't get thrown in a gulag for saying you support China over Hong Kong.


[17-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go on Weibo and say you support Hong Kong. See what happens.


[17-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
no. You do get your contracts revoked and turn into a nobody instead.


[17-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
different types of punishment for different economy


[17-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We can't impose any limit on how people respond to speech


[17-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
but the core component is not that different.


[17-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be absurd


[17-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if people couldn't express opinions about other people because "oh they might lose their job if I say this is bad"


[17-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Johnson might for removal too given what Sondland has to say


[17-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah. Except that vast majority of people follow trends set up by... media? Their party affilation? Tradition and culture? Volatile mix thereof? They're not doing it at gunpoint, certainly not, but the end result is pretty similar.


[17-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not a number of personal opinions. It's a few trends that get repeated over and over.


[17-Oct-19 02:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/EmmaVigeland/status/1184328468210835456

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Ilhan Omar is endorsing the only Jewish candidate in the race.

Which means it's a tough day for the "Omar is an anti-Semite" right-wingers who cloak their rabid anti-Muslim xenophobia and loony toons Bible thumping in faux concern about anti-Jewish hatred. Real tough.
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[17-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
and I'm saying this as someone who DOES agree that China is doom of 'free'-ish world.


[17-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the only way to stop that would be to make it so people don't share opinions about the opinions of others at all


[17-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop having discourse and just have postings


[17-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I suppose, and that's not a solution. Ideas deserve to be shared as much as facts do.


[17-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I dunno. This is one of those things I don't like and I don't see how it can be done better either.


[17-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well, Twitter is considering making all tweets older than a year private so


[17-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Jewel#1143
In China they'll just jail you and harvest your organs


[17-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/i-support-strong-women-of-color-unless-they-are-politically-to-my-left

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I Support Strong Women of Color Unless They Are Politically to My Left
For far too long, women of color have been silenced by the forces of white supremacy and patriarchy. Therefore, it’s important to recognize that wo...
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[17-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[17-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
> For far too long, women of color have been silenced by the forces of white supremacy and patriarchy. Therefore, it’s important to recognize that women of color deserve to have their voices heard, and that those in power, such as myself, need to listen to them — so long as they don’t challenge the institutions that I am a part of and benefit from.


[17-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
> challenge the institutions that I am a part of and benefit from.


[17-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
what fucking institutions?


[17-Oct-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They need to be strong and fight for their rights, as long as they sit down, shut up, and stop fighting for their rights?


[17-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much, yeah.


[17-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
wait, are you sure this isn't satire?


[17-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm reading this and I can't help but press X to doubt.


[17-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
this is definitely satire.


[17-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
it can't possibly be real.


[17-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, this tweet you linked is gone https://twitter.com/Jane_Eisner/status/1184443496389926914


[17-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[17-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/5oGMq

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Twitter
archived 16 Oct 2019 17:37:19 UTC


[17-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
someone archived it tho


[17-Oct-19 02:26 AM] ononim#8141
lol


[17-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, yeah it's satire


[17-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
> I am an ally to women of color, OK?! I’m constantly screaming it, so why don’t you believe me?! Don’t you for a second doubt my commitment to shut down the patriarchy and white supremacy! Eventually shut it down, long after I’m dead and gone and my children and their children are dead and gone. But then, when the earth is a smoldering, inhospitable husk, you can kiss institutional racism and sexism goodbye! And as we all take our last gasps of breath, we can thank me for being on the right side of history.


[17-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466203-pelosi-makes-trump-pic-of-meltdown-her-new-twitter-cover-photo

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Pelosi makes Trump photo of 'meltdown' her new Twitter cover photo
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) changed her Twitter profile background on Wednesday to the now-viral image of her standing at a table across from a seated President Trump that the president himself had tweeted earlier in the evening.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_101519gn3_lead.jpg


[17-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
ha


[17-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-angrily-walk-out-white-house-meeting-after-trump-meltdown-n1067716

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Democrats angrily walk out of White House meeting after Trump 'mel...
"He was insulting, particularly to the speaker," Schumer said.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_42/3055241/191016-pelosi-schumer-hoyer-ew-424p_b1248217b6c36d0398a0df3005ddc161.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[17-Oct-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sometimes I can't tell if she's McGonagall or if her only spine is the stick she's sitting on


[17-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is The Hill using this photo for Sondland


[17-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/sondlandgordon_051419getty_lead.jpg?itok=UrTT6MWr

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[17-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both, Wingbeat.


[17-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
All she needs are magical statues that only activate when needed for the plot.


[17-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll hav 1000x the spine, for sure.


[17-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've not seen an unbiased source, but the House doesn't need to draft articles and vote on them to investigate right


[17-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
For subpeonas? No.


[17-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Republicans changed the rules on that one.


[17-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They used to need to vote on subpeonas per-committee, but Republicans wanted to obstruct Obama, so they made it so the chairs could just issue them unilaterally.


[17-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Republican work to sabotage the EPA is now empowering Democrats to get all the juicy documents from Trump.


[17-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't it glorious?


[17-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/gTum8AZ

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NBA hypocrisy is embarrassing
https://i.imgur.com/8MoxZufh.jpg


[17-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/SctZeNa

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Bernie Sanders gives direct answer to question about Medicare-for-all
https://i.imgur.com/xdjy6aZh.jpg


[17-Oct-19 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
duh


[17-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/the-worlds-greatest-dealmaker

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The World’s Greatest Dealmaker
A master of the craft sets his sights on a local garage sale.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d72bf33a71bda0008615f5e/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/Panel4.jpg


[17-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d72bf34cc4aaf000941f640/master/w_1023,c_limit/Panel7.jpg

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[17-Oct-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
this letter is some next level cringe


[17-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
which letter?


[17-Oct-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/10/16/16-trump-letter.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg

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[17-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[17-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie aren't they sending out letters asking and subpoenas


[17-Oct-19 04:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And don't forget, in that letter he *forwarded a letter from the kurdish general outlining a strategic plan*


[17-Oct-19 04:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*to their enemy*


[17-Oct-19 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I genuinely think the president thinks he's incapable of committing treason


[17-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/vTqoTcr

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Lebron
https://i.imgur.com/eCL5VCeh.jpg


[17-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[17-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
"Lebron, how does it feel to be a pussy-ass bitch?"


[17-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
> Hate to burst everyone’s bubble, here, but this isn’t a recent video; this took place 5 years ago. Relevant, but old.


[17-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
"ay watch your mouth woman"


[17-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/gocX7aq

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Onion is once again eerily prophetic
https://i.imgur.com/XF6mDtyh.jpg


[17-Oct-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
why are there so many prophetic onion articles from 2010


[17-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently /r/sino has gone full china propaganda mode


[17-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
huge floods of chinese accounts coming in to spam anti-western and pro-china stuff


[17-Oct-19 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/dis2y5/httpsiimgurcomko1jpw2jpg/

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Posted in r/Sino by u/garagegymer • 517 points and 86 comments
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[17-Oct-19 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
lotta whataboutism


[17-Oct-19 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/32tw9ugmnxs31.jpg

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[17-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/16/gm-uaw-agree-on-tentative-labor-contract-that-could-end-strike.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/16/gm-uaw-agree-on-tentative-labor-contract-that-could-end-strike.html
GM, UAW agree on tentative labor contract that could end a monthlo...
The deal is about two weeks away from being finalized. It still needs approval from local union leaders and rank-and-file members.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106185071-1571241959038gettyimages-1155902996.jpeg?v=1571241983


[17-Oct-19 07:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That Trump letter to Erdogan, jesus christ


[17-Oct-19 07:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it reads like a parody of the letter but no it is the *actual letter*


[17-Oct-19 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People wanted a guy that talked like them


[17-Oct-19 07:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't (sadly, I can, but still) believe he was proud of writing that, and thought it'd be a good idea to release it as proof he was "tough" on Erdogan


[17-Oct-19 07:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The level of sycophancy required to work at the WH and not feel embarrassed to the point of having a breakdown every waking moment must be immeasurable


[17-Oct-19 08:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that probably accounts for this https://45chaos.com/stats


[17-Oct-19 09:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/peter-navarro-ron-vara-trump-china-intl-hnk/index.html

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Trump's top China adviser appears to have made up expert he regula...
In his 2011 book "Death by China," President Donald Trump's senior adviser Peter Navarro quoted a China hawk named "Ron Vara" to prove his point on the threat posed by Beijing to the American economy.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191016130840-01-peter-navarro-super-tease.jpg


[17-Oct-19 09:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`President Donald Trump's senior adviser Peter Navarro quoted a China hawk named "Ron Vara" to prove his point on the threat posed by Beijing to the American economy.`
`There's just one problem -- Vara doesn't appear to exist, according to an investigation by an Australian academic, who determined that Vara is actually Navarro. Ron Vara is even an anagram of Navarro's last name.`


[17-Oct-19 10:57 AM] Opponent#3498
that letter was real? Lul.


[17-Oct-19 10:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I thought it was another fake from recent days.


[17-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's Trump being diplomatic with other world leaders


[17-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine how he is to his staff


[17-Oct-19 02:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[17-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Oct-19 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO


[17-Oct-19 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Oct-19 02:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/capitalism-and-fascism-comic.png?fit=1500%2C500

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[17-Oct-19 02:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy really cannot make a point can he


[17-Oct-19 02:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also anti-HK so what is this about


[17-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Mikey#7286
Wat


[17-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
'if you won't get triggered voluntarily, I'll MAKE you triggered.'


[17-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Mikey#7286
How can anyone be anti-HK


[17-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because people he dislikes are pro-HK


[17-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Mikey#7286
.....


[17-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously he makes a "HK protestors are racist" argument too


[17-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who said "If someone calls you racist, the proper response instead of fighting is to say 'so?'"


[17-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Mikey#7286
He probably also thinks china is communist


[17-Oct-19 02:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously trying to understand what the comic means


[17-Oct-19 02:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Communist is a hypocrite for reporting someone he dislikes to a system he dislikes I guess?


[17-Oct-19 02:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it me or I always want to smash these faces in the comic?


[17-Oct-19 02:48 PM] Mikey#7286
He's like that kinda guy who thinks he's redpilled and clever when he's probably insecure and dumb in reality


[17-Oct-19 03:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The fact that he stopped making comics about women really kinda shows that


[17-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Hahahah


[17-Oct-19 03:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The "I consent" comic had everyone make fun of him


[17-Oct-19 03:22 PM] Mikey#7286
Which one was that?


[17-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[17-Oct-19 03:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Is this loss


[17-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[17-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/sondland-deposition-impeachment-inquiry/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fpolitics

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Ambassador says Trump directed diplomats to work with Giuliani on ...
US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was directed by President Donald Trump to work with Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine, he plans to tell Congress Thursday, and was left with a choice: Abandon efforts to bolster a key strategic alliance or work to satisfy the demands...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191017092216-01-gordon-sondland-arrival-1017-super-tease.jpg


[17-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"...I did not understand, until much later, that Mr. Giuliani's agenda might have also included an effort to prompt the Ukrainians to investigate Vice President Biden or his son or to involve Ukrainians, directly or indirectly, in the President's 2020 reelection campaign."


[17-Oct-19 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1184521848068988928

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Oliver Willis (@owillis)
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1184521848068988928
Trump says the Kurdish PKK is more of a threat than ISIS but its a "semi-complicated, not too complicated if you're smart" issue https://t.co/KojJdzjYPz
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Twitter


[17-Oct-19 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
@yanks why is this thing still takes breath?


[17-Oct-19 03:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Great allies, not perfect, not angels, worse than Isis.


[17-Oct-19 03:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466247-read-eu-ambassador-testifies-as-part-of-house-impeachment-inquiry

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READ: EU ambassador testifies as part of House impeachment inquiry
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, told Congress on Thursday that he had no knowledge of the Trump administration allegedly withholding foreign aid in exchange for information on former Vice President Joe Biden o
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_101719gn_lead.jpg


[17-Oct-19 03:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/16/cnn-host-faces-backlash-pondering-whether-ocasio-cortez-tlaib-and-omar-endorsements

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CNN Host Faces Backlash for Pondering Whether Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib...
"Campaign just went from too white to too urban. That's U R B A N for those who couldn't hear the whistle from the back."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/cnn_3.jpg


[17-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland claims he didn't know Rudy wanted to do all the qpq stuff


[17-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow he really did throw him and Rudy under the bus


[17-Oct-19 06:04 PM] Opponent#3498
what does 'too urban' even mean? Cause I don't think it means what 'enraged' people seemed to pretend it means.


[17-Oct-19 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Urban" is an extremely obvious codeword for "blakk"


[17-Oct-19 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no way around that.


[17-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives in the US often use "dogwhistles", certain words and phrases that sound innocuous but are clearly meant to mean something else, usually about race or class or how to discriminate on such.


[17-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Over time they get pretty obvious.


[17-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
have this actually been confirmed to have been used before?


[17-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
or is it just 'everything is codeword for black' now?


[17-Oct-19 06:07 PM] Opponent#3498
because this phrase sounds very different if you stop and think and don't immediately default into racism


[17-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing information here; blakks are disproportionately likely to liv in large cities in many areas.


[17-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
permanent soft-core revolutionaries from big cities that are permanently rallying against shit to no effect for shits and giggles. Quite obviously popular passtime in huge regional cities.


[17-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
ties well with 'too internet'.


[17-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more direct term is "inner city", which tries to refer very specifically to blakks.


[17-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
as opposed to everything else.


[17-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cities also hav a far more liberal population than rural areas, in large part due to being more racially diverse.


[17-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen the term used here. In Ukraine. This exact term. No blacks here, certainly not in any relevant numbers.


[17-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
for the same kinda people.


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
and from what I've seen of people... Here, and in Russia, yeah it checks out.


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think US is THAT MUCH fundamentally different in this regard.


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody in US politics would understand "urban" to mean "revolutionary"


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
not revolutionary.


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has no such connotation.


[17-Oct-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
well-fed well-cared for 'latte-sipping intellectuals' and wannabes.


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
people you typically expect to see at any rallies for any reason.


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav different phrasing for that tho


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you were referring to that, you would use "coastal elite"


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
right. That's the context I was missing.


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
"urban" doesn't convey the idea


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
okay then. I stand corrected.


[17-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because here, richer, whiter people tend to liv in suburbs.


[17-Oct-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley for instance, which would be the big target to say OUT OF TOUCH LATTE SIPPERS, is not "urban"


[17-Oct-19 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
right. Thanks for clarification.


[17-Oct-19 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Suburbs are a very American thing btw...they were made postwar since we didn't need much farmland near cities to giv richer people a place to liv with their newfound wealth, and there was an extreme amount of racism involved (you basically only got a house in the suburbs if you were white).


[17-Oct-19 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav this whole section of people who are almost completely white, well-off, owning their own homes.


[17-Oct-19 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they're the sort of moderate-left people that want to vote Biden.


[17-Oct-19 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
As they whine about like, misgendering or whatever.


[17-Oct-19 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways if you ignore the dogwhistle aspect for a moment, the most likely meaning is that the politics are too much favoring the common sense ideas generated by liberals in the cities above the extremely racist ideas of those out in the suburbs and rural areas.


[17-Oct-19 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
City liberals want immigration, suburbanites want just the wealthy immigrants, rural people want brown people lynched.


[17-Oct-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
City liberals want clean energy, suburbanites want whatever's cheap, rural people want coal.


[17-Oct-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
why WOULD city liberals want immigration btw? What does it actually provide the country, in their opinion?


[17-Oct-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Better economic opportunity due to a constant influx of workers.


[17-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
that's assuming they naturalise en masse. Else they still work, but feed the gray economy, if that.


[17-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general, immigration helps the economy out, and the main argument against it is either people who feel they need the scarcity of laborers to succeed (people at the bottom of the workforce), or who think that the types of people who would immigrate don't deserve opportunity.


[17-Oct-19 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need to naturalize, actually


[17-Oct-19 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in the US, we hav citizenship if you're born here


[17-Oct-19 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that means the next generation becomes citizens


[17-Oct-19 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike in many other countries where immigrant families can sort of stay perpetually trapped.


[17-Oct-19 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Jus sanguine or something like that


[17-Oct-19 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanguinis


[17-Oct-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
The US makes naturalization far more difficult than it really ought to be


[17-Oct-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
You have to realize that borders are not real


[17-Oct-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, at this point you basically cannot naturalize. You hav to rely on your children getting citizenship for your family line to become US citizens.


[17-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
People don't intuitively get the idea that borders aren't real


[17-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Because ingroup/outgroup mentality is so deeply engrained into us


[17-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
That we _make_ them real


[17-Oct-19 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
About borders not being real, the important thing to note is that they hurt business.


[17-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They create a barrier to product flow.


[17-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
An artificial barrier.


[17-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That product can be laborers or actual physical goods, or services.


[17-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the point is it is always better overall to not hav that barrier in economic interactions.


[17-Oct-19 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more you allow immigration and free trade, the better your economy does.


[17-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, you can make it so that immigrants struggle to get anywhere and end up stukk at the bottom where things are shit, and that might hurt your economy, but that too is artificial.


[17-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and thankfully the US almost by accident has it capped to the initial generation)


[17-Oct-19 06:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll grant you that borders are much less clear than a line on the sand but 'borders don't exist' seems pretty alien to me. If everything else fails, it's a symbol. This lands you're supposed to care for and (in times of need) make sacrifices for (not nessesarily physical, but like extra taxes in times of hardship and whatnot). And so on. This is pretty much world-wide narrative. Economics, yeah if only they were distinguished from politics. Borders often signify language, cultural barriers, and so on. The ones that are clearly defined (many others might not be).


[17-Oct-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
People are people


[17-Oct-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
People are not their nationality


[17-Oct-19 06:26 PM] Opponent#3498
people are their party though... or so it seems :/


[17-Oct-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
There is no meaning to "we should help these people first because they're on our line of the sand" when you live in a world with 7 billion of them


[17-Oct-19 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
We give it meaning through our own implicit biases


[17-Oct-19 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
They helped us survive 10000 years ago


[17-Oct-19 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Symbols that make us shoot each other over petty squabbles are bad.


[17-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are plenty ideas around on basically removing borders as an important thing.


[17-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is doing a pretty nice job of it on their internal side.


[17-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But of course the UK had to get buttmad about pakistanis being able to cross the channel.


[17-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
A few complete and utter lies, some printed on the sides of buses, later, and now they're about to shoot their economy in the foot by making their border more of a barrier to everything, and haphazardly.


[17-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, I haven't heard anyone is EU being actually pleased, or satisfied even, to have to house refugees. I'm pretty sure one of the only reasons they support Ukraine is they don't want to see MORE of them, even if relatively civilised ones this time.


[17-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is "pleased" when you talk about how SOME FOREIGNER IS COMING AND THEY COULD BE NEXTDOOR, that's human (shitty) nature


[17-Oct-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the top heads certainly approved it. I've yet to hear it or read it from anyone els, ever.


[17-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
But as far as *actual economic effects*, Germany has a labor shortage Syrians are now helping reduce the impact of.


[17-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they took in the most


[17-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
What a person *likes* and what actually improves the country aren't always the same thing.


[17-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And a lot of that in the end comes down to us using those lines in the sand to justify hating people rather than thinking about what's actually happening.


[17-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Brexit is an utter mess


[17-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Freedom of movement might sound like an alien concept to you, but it's a really big economic deal there.


[17-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ability for academics, laborers, investors, entrepreneurs all to just up and move across the channel is *huge*


[17-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means the right people can get to the right place at the right time cheaply for economic purposes


[17-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and facilitates broader markets for them to target.


[17-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also really culturally important for Ireland especially, cause the UK has a land border there.


[17-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Putting up walls and shit on that land border may well make people take up arms again about it.


[17-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And would likely inevitably lead to Northern Ireland leaving the UK as a result.


[17-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not that it's alien concept. It's just that it requires an immesurable amount of effort to get right. And a LOT of sacrifices from current generation, and likely the next, from whichever point there's a decision on opening up borders.


[17-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU didn't hav to sacrifice anything, really.


[17-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
EU is... reasonably similar in culture, language nonwithstanding. The old West, pretty much.


[17-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are some pretty big cultural differences across Europe


[17-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
the outer parts of EU are less than equals politically and economically.


[17-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And joining the EU givs them a huge economic advantage.


[17-Oct-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't _like_ paying taxes, particularly


[17-Oct-19 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
but I recognize that paying them is generally good for the economy


[17-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe, but it doesn't seem like it kicked in yet. Or, alternatively, I shudder to imagine how shitty things were before. Someone like Slovakia, they're EU. They're also poor as a church mouse. Which makes them attractive to us, for example, as the prices are low by nessesity.


[17-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
Greece, they're EU. Their economy crashed and burned and I haven't heard anything in a while about them.


[17-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Opponent#3498
Poland, well you've heard plenty about Poland even from me before.


[17-Oct-19 06:47 PM] Opponent#3498
and it gets worse the further east and south you go.


[17-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
(admittedly, Polish economy seems to be doing well. They're 'our' Europe, employing the most of Ukraine's seasonal foreign workers)


[17-Oct-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
funny thing about that


[17-Oct-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
poles are super bigoted towards those seasonal migrants


[17-Oct-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
they fucking _hate_ them even though they don't want to do the jobs they do


[17-Oct-19 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
funny how the world be


[17-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I kinda figured that.


[17-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poland is the EU's growth champion...


[17-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://voxeu.org/article/how-poorer-nations-benefit-eu-membership

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How poorer nations benefit from EU membership
In the wake of the recent crisis, the debate about the economic benefits from EU membership has intensified. This column presents new results about the benefits countries derive from becoming EU


[17-Oct-19 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically pretty much everyone benefits. Except Greece for some reason.


[17-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a lot like how american farming megacorps hire guatemalans off the books to do their dirty jobs


[17-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
instead of blaming the executives who are profiting off the illegal (because it's not paid minimum wage, not even close) labor they blame the immigrants


[17-Oct-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365230718563123203/634385440052609034/IMG_20191017_044057_433.jpg

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[17-Oct-19 06:58 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm, I wonder if there'd modern data on this. The growth obviously started dipping by 2008ish, wonder if it recovered.


[17-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
2008 financial crisis...


[17-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the world is still recovering.


[17-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's expected.


[17-Oct-19 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466292-trumps-doral-resort-to-host-g-7-summit-next-year

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Trump's Doral resort to host G-7 summit next year
The United States will host the 2020 Group of Seven (G-7) summit at Trump National Doral, a resort property owned by President Trump's family.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdoralclub_071917getty.jpg


[17-Oct-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
nepotism


[17-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
still. EU works because it's a regional thing. Regional thing and the outliers living mostly by themselves (RE: Poland and their lovely conservative gov-t). They thus avoid (or did avoid, until the refugee thing) the major cultural, economic, public clashes. Trying to incorporate us, for example, would be a titanic task, not at all well-recieved by either side. We'd get vast tax increase with little corresponding income growth, extra regulations on top of the already confusing local ones, prrrobably lose a lot of domestic production for one reason or another, like Baltic states did (they lost almost everything in terms of light industry, agriculture).


[17-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, and the obvious fact that were it to happen right now, it would put EU in direct conflict with Russia. No sane person would agree to that.


[17-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
and this is another thing. In our day and age (and it doesn't seem like it was ever different for long) we have several entities at once agressively expanding on regional or global scale. Russia. Turkey. Syria, although what they're doing is their own thing, I doubt they'll ever get to be truly relevant, besides oil exports. And China of course.


[17-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
China in particular would welcome open borders gladly. Their borders would remain effectively closed, of course, and they would give it their best shot to turn the rest of the world into China's satellite.


[17-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
they're doing it even now, by virtue of economics, if not politically.


[17-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I've read a LOT of fiction with the theme of unified Earth. From tyrannical iron-handed gov-t, all the way to restored lush paradise world left behind as humanity expands outwards. I do believe this is the way to the future, of one sort or another. The issue is, actually achiving this, or anything close to this, looks pretty impossible. And welcoming more refugees from wherever next Cold War (or hell, WW1 legacy of Sevres and Lausanne and before) crops up again isn't good for long-term. I don't think even US economy can simply grow indefinitely.


[17-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
or anyone elses either... Except China :/ And even they seem to be hitting the peak.


[17-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, I understand little of economics on the nation-wide scale.


[17-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has very, very little to do with culture, I can tell you that much.


[17-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
well what I've described is pure eco, cause I can't even begin to imagine the cultural aspect


[17-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"A reporter then questioned Mulvaney on his explanation saying it sounds like a quid-pro-quo to which Mulvaney said: “We do that all the time with foreign policy.”"


[17-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
they probably do.


[17-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When questioned on Mulvaney saying that the White House held up security money from Ukraine until the president got assurances, Mulvaney told reporters to “get over it” saying there are going to be political impacts on foreign policy.


[17-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466312-mulvaney-says-withheld-ukraine-aide-tied-in-part-to-2016-election#

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Mulvaney says withheld Ukraine aide tied in part to 2016 election ...
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney indicated Thursday that the Trump administration held up military aid to Ukraine earlier this year in part because officials wanted Kiev to help investigate 2016 election interfer
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mulvaney-mick-getty_0.jpg


[17-Oct-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"No we didn't do quid pro quo for _that_, we did it for _THIS_. Also we do it all the time, get over it"


[17-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, in fairness, I'm pretty sure that's how everyone does it.


[17-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
constitutional or not, lawful, or not.


[17-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
in the end, it always comes down to this.


[17-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/u-k-e-u-agree-new-divorce-deal-key-brexit-n1066381

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U.K., E.U. agree to new divorce deal in key Brexit breakthrough
European leaders endorsed the deal Thursday, but it must still be agreed to by lawmakers in the British Parliament.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_42/3056566/191017-boris-juncker-mc-1408_95fade5467b0e39ddb444fc5d6bebfec.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[17-Oct-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
oh dear


[17-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Mani#1404
So, Brexit is actually really bad right?


[17-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Mani#1404
@Itsthinking G7 takes place in August or so? That's an awful awful time to host something in FL..but I also understand that Trump shouldn't be doing this on his own property.


[17-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[17-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Mulvaney is dumb lel


[17-Oct-19 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/19ywtqf7c4t31.png

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[17-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I understand her.


[17-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
to imagine how it would feel to repeat it


[17-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
unf.


[17-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Mani#1404
He actually said mozzarella? Holy fuck.


[17-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't look like he did


[17-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the Ancient Rome thing was a reference to inherited culture


[17-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
a guy like that should not be making historical references xD


[17-Oct-19 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1184867000880959494?s=19

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[17-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess they'll settle for Bernie


[17-Oct-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50080737

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Turkish president 'threw Trump letter in bin'
The letter told Mr Erdogan not to be "a fool" by launching a military offensive in northern Syria.
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[17-Oct-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
Bruh


[17-Oct-19 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438914874219954177/634404942479884299/image4.jpg

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[17-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A corporation made that

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[17-Oct-19 09:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They are not my friend either.


[17-Oct-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-elijah-cummings/maryland-congressman-elijah-cummings-chair-of-u-s-house-oversight-committee-has-died-idUSKBN1WW15I

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Elijah Cummings, U.S. civil rights icon who led House probe of Tru...
U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings, a civil rights champion who over the last q...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191017&t=2&i=1441817597&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9G0Q7


[17-Oct-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
inb4 trump gloats about it


[17-Oct-19 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh he will, and he'll likely tie it tosoemthing else liek current events in saudi arabia, his taxes, impeachment, obama, or the wall


[17-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466361-perry-notified-trump-hes-resigning-reports

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Perry notified Trump he will resign: reports
Energy Secretary Rick Perry, who has recently drawn scrutiny for his dealings with Ukraine as part of the House's impeachment inquiry, has notified President Trump that he is resigning, according to multiple reports.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/donaldtrump_rickperry.jpg


[17-Oct-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/sbxopunw54t31.png

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[17-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Deleted User#0000
>reddit


[17-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>he says, on china-owned discord


[17-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Deleted User#0000
this channel is just full on "orange man bad" isn't it?

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[17-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[17-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just "Orange man is literally retarded"


[17-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Deleted User#0000
So "orange man bad"


[17-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Deleted User#0000
Got it


[17-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Deleted User#0000
>there's a pinned post comparing what trump has said to fascist teachings
christ this is a goldmine

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[17-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Feel free to disagree without coming out as a complete sperg


[17-Oct-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
a fine and upstanding contributor to the discussion


[17-Oct-19 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
clearly all you have to do is say it's bad and then disappear


[17-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a hoot every time someone comes to defend Trump's "GREAT AND UNMATCHED WISDOM"


[17-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Deleted User#0000
Who said I supported Trump?


[17-Oct-19 10:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And by "hoot" I mean it's the same dredge of "lamestream media", "NPCs", "SJWs", etc.


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Deleted User#0000
I just find it hilarious that people will rag on him for everything he does


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
He senile narcisist


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
because his actions have consequences


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People tend to rag on retards in positions of power that eat shit and tell us they're geniuses


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] ononim#8141
it's not hard to find him being a bumbling retard bad


[17-Oct-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
The things he does matter because they are relevant in domestic and foreign affairs


[17-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>it's actually 5d chess and trump is just epic trolling us


[17-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Deleted User#0000
Really I'd support trump more if he pulled out of the middle east and cut funding to Israel


[17-Oct-19 11:01 PM] Deleted User#0000
But he is a boomer so it's what he's been taught


[17-Oct-19 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
We mostly don't disagree


[17-Oct-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
US isolationism in 2019 has turned out to be a bit of a monkey's paw endeavor, though


[17-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In the sense of "I'd like the smell of rotten meat more if it were just percent less pungent"


[17-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Deleted User#0000
Really this is an issue of electing people based on how popular they are/how rich they are instead of what they'll actually do to help the country


[17-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Mikey#7286
Trump is not a good president at all lol


[17-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Mikey#7286
And also


[17-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Celebrity businessmen should not be politicians


[17-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Deleted User#0000
Celebrities should not be politicians period


[17-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's now an issue of the GOP and its electorate being a gaggle of spineless sycophants and sociopaths gleeful at the opportunities given


[17-Oct-19 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Celebrity businessmen maybe can be politicians, but it seems that every one that has been has used the position for embezzlement


[17-Oct-19 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
So you can see why I might be a bit biased against that


[17-Oct-19 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pence-set-make-ceasefire-case-erdogan-after-release-tough-guy-n1067976

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U.S., Turkey agree to cease-fire to allow Kurdish forces to retreat
The diplomatic overture took place just hours after President Donald Trump described the Kurdish forces fighting Turkish troops as “no angels.”
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_42/3057191/191017-pence-erdogan-al-1321_927486813c237f78a1739c0d796e112b.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[17-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
And you cannot look at something like this and say "yeah, this guy is a great fit for the highest office in the country"


[17-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Mikey#7286
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1184570682757337089?s=19

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Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander)
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1184570682757337089?s=19
White House confirms authenticity of Trump letter to Erdogan, dated 10/9: “History... will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don’t happen. Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool! I will call you later.”
First reported by Fox Business.
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[17-Oct-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
You can stop now


[17-Oct-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Am I doing something wrong?


[17-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Beating a dead horse


[17-Oct-19 11:09 PM] Mikey#7286
Ok


[17-Oct-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/04c074aed3c34bc7a6f3beaa6004aff8

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US, Turkey agree on Turkish cease-fire with Syrian Kurds
ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — The U.S. and Turkey agreed Thursday to a cease-fire in the Turks' deadly attacks on Kurdish fighters in northern Syria, requiring the Kurds to vacate the area in an...
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[17-Oct-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in an arrangement that largely solidifies Turkey’s position and aims in the weeklong conflict. The deal includes a conditional halt to American economic sanctions.

After negotiations with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, U.S. Vice President Mike Pence hailed the five-day cease-fire as the way to end the bloodshed caused by Turkey’s invasion of Syria. He remained silent on whether it amounted to a second abandonment of America’s former Kurdish allies in the fight against the Islamic State group.


[18-Oct-19 12:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/lizrnc/status/1184934495989964800?s=21

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https://twitter.com/lizrnc/status/1184934495989964800?s=21
They keep coming!

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#KeepAmericaGreat
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[18-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump outside attorney Jay Sekulow to CNN:  "The legal team was not involved in the Acting Chief of Staff's press briefing."


[18-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466385-mulvaney-walks-back-comments-tying-ukraine-aid-to-2016-probe

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Mulvaney walks back comments tying Ukraine aid to 2016 probe
White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Thursday that the flow of security assistance to Ukraine was not conditioned on Kiev investigating a conspiracy related to 2016 election interference, walking back statements
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gettyimages-1181674386.jpg


[18-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“Let me be clear, there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election,” Mulvaney said. “The president never told me to withhold any money until the Ukrainians did anything related to the server.”


[18-Oct-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gee, i wonder who trump threatened to fire


[18-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/466368-rick-perry-resigns-as-energy-secretary

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Rick Perry resigns as Energy secretary
Energy Secretary Rick Perry, whose dealings with Ukraine have become a focus of the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump, will be stepping down from his Cabinet post at the end of the year, President Trump said Thursday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/perryrick_031418gn_lead.jpg


[18-Oct-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
another one bites the dust

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[18-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Says "Get over it, we do this all the time"


[18-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Then tries to say press misinterpreted what he said


[18-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems he misordered the narcissist's prayer.


[18-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a bit beyond a mistake/something you can walk back


[18-Oct-19 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
how do express someone eating dust through emojis


[18-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"That's why we held up the money"


[18-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He explicitly mentioned the DNC server with that


[18-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5brFcfOXjVo&feature=youtu.be&t=71

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White House acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, during a press conference, says that President Trump’s desire to investigate the "DNC server” was part of th...
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[18-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Misinterpreted"


[18-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
🇫


[18-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's just a lot of time to explain something that was misinterpreted


[18-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They didn't jump down his throat, gave him time to talk


[18-Oct-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost like his news interview put his job on the line...


[18-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
wym, all politicians do quid pro quo once in their life


[18-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
most are just under the table


[18-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Very hard to find a "clean" politician in the WH


[18-Oct-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Very hard to find a clean Republican in the WH, actually


[18-Oct-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
It may surprise you to learn that Democratic politicians do NOT do this


[18-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it's just a Republican thing,


[18-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
people go into politics to make money, and preferably keep it.


[18-Oct-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
It is pretty much just the Rs that do it illegally


[18-Oct-19 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Infographic again https://i.redd.it/rmq9t9gdgjq31.jpg

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[18-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Where is this information coming from?


[18-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
shareblue r/politics?


[18-Oct-19 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
It was based on this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States

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List of federal political scandals in the United States
This article provides a list of political scandals that involve officials from the government of the United States, sorted from most recent date to least recent.


[18-Oct-19 02:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[18-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
kek


[18-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
China money tho


[18-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
smh


[18-Oct-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
🇨🇳


[18-Oct-19 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Bow to your overlords


[18-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
When are we going to get more politicians to stand up to China?


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Deleted User#0000
When we stop getting so much stuff from them


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
it's political suicide to do so.


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
AND financial one


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
at least on personal level


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
so far politicians pretend China doesn't exist.


[18-Oct-19 02:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Home ownership, Next Prime Minister, Shop lifting, Banking collapse and *legalising mass shootings*
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009bp4

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Agendum - Series 2 - Good Luck Everybody - BBC Sounds
Current affairs parody and stupidly feasible visit to the 24-hour Hall Of Opinion Mirrors.
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[18-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
easier that way.


[18-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
😔


[18-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Deleted User#0000
>legalising mass shootings
as long as I get my guns


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
We thought we could bring democracy to China


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
We should have never stopped fighting those damn commies


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Ted Cruz arranged to meet with the leader of Taiwan and then broke his promise to keep it secret and told the media


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you should have finished the job


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is lulzy


[18-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Vietnam too hard 2 win


[18-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
:angerycry:


[18-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
everyone mad at about Agent Orange


[18-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
America lost vietnam for the same reason the british lost the american revolution


[18-Oct-19 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
The US lost Vietnam because Nixon sabotaged it to get reelected


[18-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Deleted User#0000
We decided it would be a good idea to fight an enemy on their home turf while they had a superior knowledge of the land and training to fight in that land while we trained our soldiers in deserts and forests


[18-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
Didn't we have a hard time beating back those Chinese in the Korean War?


[18-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Deleted User#0000
yeah, because they tried the human wave tactic


[18-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Deleted User#0000
Great for surprise attacks


[18-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Deleted User#0000
but once you lose the shock of the surprise, you're kinda fucked


[18-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Deleted User#0000
not to mention even with the surprise it results in huge casualties


[18-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Deleted User#0000
China lost something like 200k soldiers


[18-Oct-19 02:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I got a sample for those that cant use the site. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009bp4

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Agendum - Series 2 - Good Luck Everybody - BBC Sounds
Current affairs parody and stupidly feasible visit to the 24-hour Hall Of Opinion Mirrors.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p06hcbst.jpg


[18-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/r3Eqlpk

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So it has come down to this.
https://i.imgur.com/x8BjlpPh.jpg


[18-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
> As a result, imgur suddenly has been flooded with accounts from pro-China users, who claim 1.- that they do have "freedom of speech", 2.-That this is the face of imperialism meddling, and  3.- That we know nothing and should shut our mouths because we don't have all the facts.


[18-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Well, all those resources have failed, and after hundreds of accounts have been banned on reddit from r/Sino, today their page on reddit has this as its top image.


[18-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
> No more arguments. No more accusations of pro-western propaganda. No more attempts at logical reasoning. Because it's not working. What's worse (for China), the discourse has moved from "Hong Kong rule of two systems one country system should be respected", to "Free Hong Kong" which pretty much is beginning to translate to "independent Hong Kong as a sovereign country".


[18-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
good :3


[18-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
forget about fucking Blizzard. Focus on this.


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-italy-mozzarella-president/

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Did Donald Trump Call Italy's President 'Mozzarella'?
Critics of the president seized on two supposed gaffes in October 2019. But what did Trump actually say?
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[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
He didn't


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump said the two countries share a political and cultural heritage, and that that heritage dates back thousands of years. He did not claim that the two countries have shared an alliance for thousands of years — something that would have required both nations to exist as polities during the era of the Roman Empire, which clearly neither did.


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
It was a stupid meme


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
:oof:
:oof2:


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
And the translator always looks like that


[18-Oct-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
So I oofed on that


[18-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
I love it when people look perpetually annoyed/surprised by everything


[18-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
makes for great memes


[18-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
obviously it's just god memeing on everyone


[18-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
also good. He should be condemned for the shit he does, there's enough of that for two lifetimes.


[18-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.statnews.com/2019/10/16/reduced-brain-activity-extends-life-study/

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Surprising study shows reduced neuronal activity extends life - STAT
The discovery was so surprising that it’s taken two years to be published because of how much additional data the scientists reviewing the study requested.
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[18-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump will outlive us all


[18-Oct-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
How though


[18-Oct-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Neurons in isolation live longer when they're more stimulated


[18-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Likely stress


[18-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
neurons require energy the rest of the body has to work extra to provide I gues


[18-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note there's efficiency involved, more neuronal activity isn't necessarily good.


[18-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/amazon-is-severing-contracts-with-delivery-firms-linked-to

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Amazon Is Firing Its Delivery Firms Following People's Deaths
More than 2,000 workers in eight states will lose their jobs after Amazon terminated its relationship with the firms following BuzzFeed News and ProPublica reports.
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[18-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
At least those 2000 fired workers won't die on the job :twismug:


[18-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Also I hate to be that guy, but


[18-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*buzzfeed*


[18-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Buzzfeed News is actually pretty legit


[18-Oct-19 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.elimparcial.com/mexico/VIDEO-Caos-en-Culiacan-por-presunta-detencion-de-hijo-de-El-Chapo-20191017-0112.html
So, apparently, El Chapito, son of the drug cartel kingpin El Chapo, has been found and captured by police, and cartel affiliated paramilitary groups are scrambling to rescue him

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VIDEO: Caos en Culiacán por supuesta detención de hijo de "El Chapo"
La supuesta detención del hijo de "El Chapo"  habría desatado caos en Sinaloa. Circulan ya varios videos de hombres fuertemente armados e incluso un aviso en el que recomiendan no salir de sus hogares.
https://www.elimparcial.com/__export/1571350777910/sites/elimparcial/img/2019/10/17/gwe.jpg_673822677.jpg


[18-Oct-19 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some really intense fighting going on


[18-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>TOYOTA


[18-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
of course


[18-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
I sent my mom this, she thinks it's not 6th grade level writing https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1184570682757337089

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White House confirms authenticity of Trump letter to Erdogan, dated 10/9: “History... will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don’t happen. Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool! I will call you later.”
First reported by Fox Business.
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[18-Oct-19 05:18 AM] SemiDovich#0577
why are you still talking to your mom in terms of politics


[18-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
and she says that english was by far her best subject in college (she doesn't have a degree)


[18-Oct-19 05:18 AM] SemiDovich#0577
if y'all literally don't agree on jack shit


[18-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
she said she had enough units to apply for an AA, but never got it


[18-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, she's kinda my mom, I don't want to just abandon her to illogic when she used to be so good at logic


[18-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5brFcfOXjVo

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Mulvaney Tells Reporter: ‘Get Over’ Quid Pro Quo: ‘It Happen...
White House acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, during a press conference, says that President Trump’s desire to investigate the "DNC server” was part of th...
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[18-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
she also said this wasn't admitting to quid pro quo


[18-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
well, she said quid pro quo isn't illegal


[18-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
and that he did nothing wrong in how he spoke


[18-Oct-19 05:21 AM] SemiDovich#0577
so you think she has a chance of being "logical" again


[18-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
no, I don't really think so


[18-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
which is really sad


[18-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
it was like she's been possessed


[18-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
which makes me think it wasn't so illogical to think of diseases as being a form of demonic possession when you didn't have germ theory


[18-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
I don't have any other explanation for her behavior other than "I don't want to be wrong"


[18-Oct-19 05:24 AM] SemiDovich#0577
oof


[18-Oct-19 05:24 AM] SemiDovich#0577
we'll see what happens in the next year or so


[18-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
her explanation for trump's "great and unmatched wisdom" thing is that he's just trolling


[18-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
> US president


[18-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
> trolling


[18-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing wrong with that.


[18-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the dude with nuclear weapons was "just trolling"


[18-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Opponent#3498
re: amazon, well they're right. They're demanding a set of requirements and if the contractor can't deliver on those, too bad, the market's saturated enough not to get overly attached.


[18-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing trump's done that really got my mom was abandoning the kurds, but he finally managed to say something that kept him from falling off of the pedestal she put trump up on was saying he was "sickened by all the letters he had to write to parents of dead US soldiers"


[18-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Opponent#3498
and if the contractor brings negative media attention, the decision to ditch them is even easier.


[18-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1184896879529734147

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To clarify, I am skeptical about exporting "American democracy" abroad. It hasn't worked in +20 years and I don't think it'll work today. Their gov't sucks (OF COURSE) but so do our fixes.

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[18-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously the only options are Chinese and American gov't


[18-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sweden is a myth.


[18-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
New Zealand is just Florida but someone was really high when they saw it.


[18-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
also, apparently he got multiple messages about being reported and posted the messages saying that twitter found no rule violations for saying "Fuck the Kurds and fuck the Hong Kong "protesters"."


[18-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
I guess it's not particularly nasty, but there's still seriously something wrong with saying that people being (or are about to be) slaughtered should just be abandoned


[18-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, Twitter won't censor this stuff because they'd hav to take on right wing politicians


[18-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
As noted previously, they're fine with banning random arabs for using a language resembling terrorist recruitment.


[18-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if one Republican senator lost their twitter, that'd be the worst.


[18-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
that was a thing about them not using bots to police far-right extremists


[18-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
because they bot they made kept seeing the same patterns used in far-right extremist posts as used by right-wing politicians


[18-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/world/europe/brexit-deal-details.html

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[18-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
why does northern ireland want to be separate from ireland again?


[18-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Theresa May said that no PM could contenance a violation of UK sovereignty by creating an internal border


[18-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boris Johnson's Brexit deal would see an internal border.


[18-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(between Northern Ireland and Britain)


[18-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow at this point? Fear.


[18-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It used to be about religion as well, but at the end of the day they think the UK will fukk them over if they try to leave.


[18-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing about the British Empire and still modern British thinking is like, you leave chocolates on the table


[18-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you hang up the paddle on the wall


[18-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then when little abducted son goes to nibble he says you're a nice, caring father


[18-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if he should ever try to walk out the door you take that paddle and make every inch of his skin sore.


[18-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course over time all the various significant colonies managed to get the hell out.


[18-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except Hong Kong, which just got handed off to its evil crakkwhore biological mother who now is going to violate the custody deal.


[18-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now of course you might say "Nah the UK wouldn't invade, surely Northern Ireland can just say 'we want to leave' one day and do it"...but it doesn't work like that.


[18-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has endless bureaucracy about everything, you need a whole referendum to leave.


[18-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it just outright declared independence, warships would be shelling things within an hour.


[18-Oct-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and Northern Ireland regularly struggles to put together its own parliament lately.


[18-Oct-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[18-Oct-19 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder who's the intended clientelle for this.


[18-Oct-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
It's in silicon valley


[18-Oct-19 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
So, anyone who lives there really


[18-Oct-19 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Paycheck to paycheck silicon valley people


[18-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[18-Oct-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Rent is out of control and homelessness is a serious problem for software developers


[18-Oct-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
No joke


[18-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can you at least take the fucking spare tire out for $400 a month goddamn


[18-Oct-19 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it might not be a joke but it's still pretty hillarious to me :/


[18-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
for context, in our wonderful imaginary country outsourced IT is one of the best 'broadly' accessible job categories. An awful slog, but it pays well and in hard cash ($ or eur, although mostly $)


[18-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
California is a joke


[18-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just California


[18-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seattle is dying.


[18-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Deleted User#0000
Yes, big cities are shit


[18-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the size of the city that's the problem.


[18-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Business comes with loads of money


[18-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
specialized workers get paid a bit of that money


[18-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile everyone else working trash tier jobs makes like a third that much


[18-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
rent triples


[18-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Landlords rake in the dough, but thousands of people get put onto the streets because they can't afford the rent


[18-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You end up with people who are homeless...even if employed.


[18-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty depressing, all things considered.


[18-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
america is a joke


[18-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's utterly ridiculous and completely preventable.


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there's african immigrants trying to come up through mexico in order to reach america


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm wondering why the hell they didn't try for europe instead


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
europe is not only much closer, but much better


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Deleted User#0000
Europe's already got too many


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy decided to drown immigrants.


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Deleted User#0000
Thank god for that


[18-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the ship that was going around trying to stop them from drowning?


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Got shut down by saying that anything immigrants touch should be burned as biohazardous waste


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
including their clothing


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Deleted User#0000
based


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the ship would've had to strip everyone naked, not let them hav any possessions, only feed/bathe them, and burn everything found


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
While the nazis killed the jews...they were never as hard on them about possessions.


[18-Oct-19 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
people get creative.


[18-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, fascism originated from italy


[18-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
nazi germany was just better with it


[18-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy is currently led by people who would rather Africans be enslaved than be allowed to reside in Italy.


[18-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#World_War_II>


[18-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy that we're in a society where you get shit for saying fascists should be punched, while actual fascists ensure the deaths of thousands of innocents.


[18-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe they feel they can't or should not integrate them into economy. Purely practical considerations, instead of emotional prejudice.


[18-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not practical concerns


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's fairly cheap to deal with immigrants


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a lot of them tend to be young people who can easily enter the labor force


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the only reason why spain was never in the axis was because hitler wanted to maintain good relations with france's puppet government


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes a lot of resources to grow people to adulthood, you know.


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
franco demanded control of the french colonies


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
in africa


[18-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
> In September 1939 World War II began. On 23 October 1940, Hitler and Franco met in Hendaye in France to discuss the possibility of Spain's entry on the side of the Axis. Franco's demands, including supplies of food and fuel, as well as Spanish control of Gibraltar and French North Africa, proved too much for Hitler.


[18-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sure, let's let people drown while the population stagnates or deflates.


[18-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's totally a good use of resources.


[18-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
> At the time Hitler did not want to risk damaging his relations with the new Vichy French government. (An oft-cited remark attributed to Hitler is that the German leader said that he would rather have some of his own teeth extracted than to have to personally deal further with Franco.)


[18-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
plus Germany lacked fuel and oil to supply themselves properly, much less anyone else in large quantities...


[18-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, definitely a non-starter.


[18-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, emotional prejudice is the only way to justify such a waste of resources.


[18-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cold hard logic without the racism says to open the borders. All kinds of borders.


[18-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder how much italy gets vs how much it spends on the EU


[18-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But cold hard logic just doesn't make people *feel* good etc., they'd rather vote the candyman than the dentist.


[18-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want the crazy-sounding example


[18-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the TSA


[18-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They likely can't stop actual bomb threats


[18-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
tests regularly find that it's easy to get stuff thru


[18-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The added cost of the TSA is passed down to the consumer, and is such that many people due to that added cost would rather drive


[18-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
driving is muuuuuch more deadly than flying


[18-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if we assumed the TSA is the only thing stopping, like, a 9/11 every year


[18-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would still on the value be better to not hav it


[18-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
because a 9/11 every year would kill fewer people.


[18-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We put in tons of specially-trained gov't employees with x-ray stuff because it makes us feel safe


[18-Oct-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
not because it saves lives overall.


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
actually also to create jobs


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they don't actually seem to work.


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I've read about that. Airport security is often a huge burden and a time waster, yet doesn't guarantee anything with any degree of reliability.


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-statistics-lost-their-power-and-why-we-should-fear-what-comes-next?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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The ability of statistics to accurately represent the world is declining. In its wake, a new age of big data controlled by private companies is taking over – and putting democracy in peril.
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[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
but it makes people feel good.


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the fatal flaw with democracy


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
people will usually vote the candyman


[18-Oct-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
who givs you the sweets


[18-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
above the dentist who keeps your teeth from falling out, but causes pain.


[18-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's because AI are better at modeling trends with actual data than statistics are


[18-Oct-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
statistics include a bunch of "what ifs" to work that AI don't need


[18-Oct-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
The problem with statistics is inferential statistics


[18-Oct-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
what does it mean to be "strongly correlated" or "statistically significant" (things I _despise_ actually)


[18-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Opponent#3498
there's also the various issues with collecting and processing data.


[18-Oct-19 06:41 AM] Opponent#3498
if at least one link in 'collect-process-publish' chain is faulty or corrupt, the whole process is dead.


[18-Oct-19 06:43 AM] Opponent#3498
not uncommon here, actually. I've heard first-hand stories like city census being 'adjusted' to maintain a status of a 'millionaire', despite the actual population being about 850k, things like that. And this isn't doctoring the public report, this is primarily internal data.


[18-Oct-19 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
and even IF the system isn't corrupt, some thinga might simply be wrong. Poor representative sample, poorly understood results and faulty conclusions, with no inherent ill intent.


[18-Oct-19 06:48 AM] Opponent#3498
or, like byte said, fishing for correlation where there might not be any, potentially ignoring or missing external factors.


[18-Oct-19 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
basicly, not truly objective nor truly transparent.


[18-Oct-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
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[18-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently a clerk shot and killed an armed robber, but the family of the robber is saying that it's "not right"


[18-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
the sister's saying "yeah, he's robbing ya, OH WELL"


[18-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
like wtf


[18-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
why do humans think like this


[18-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
"call the police, that's what ya supposed to do"


[18-Oct-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it sounds like the family was probably in on the robberies


[18-Oct-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
and they're mad that they lost some money


[18-Oct-19 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've noticed this everytime someone's precious angel tries to rob someone at gun point and get's shot back for their efforts.


[18-Oct-19 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They probably see a lawsuit possibility to be gained from but they need to drum up anger and sympathy for the armed robber first


[18-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much.


[18-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
first world popularised suing for damages for any reason (because of how often they win, or at least generate hype and win in other ways but court decision)


[18-Oct-19 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the least they probably hope a sympathetic group will start a go fund me for them

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[18-Oct-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[18-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
that link about illuminati guy is real though.


[18-Oct-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[18-Oct-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/17/think-of-your-family-china-threatens-european-citizens-over-xinjiang-protests

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[18-Oct-19 01:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
From what I can tell about the "Illuminati guy," his self-help book series uses the term as a marketing stunt to get people to read it...but all his self-help books are really just about making a bunch of 💸 = better person


[18-Oct-19 01:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's still not at all the kind of person I would want in charge of anything to do with educating kids


[18-Oct-19 01:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
His main qualification appears to be throwing a lot of money at the people who'd nominate him for the position


[18-Oct-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically he;s betsy devos with an illuminati hook


[18-Oct-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
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[18-Oct-19 04:05 PM] ononim#8141
spain what the fuck


[18-Oct-19 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>he doesn't know about spain


[18-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Country is full of that sort of stuff, onon


[18-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same with a lot of Europe


[18-Oct-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fbab585a5567452796aa1365e50316e8

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[18-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
welp, RIP to the neflix execs, another case of suicide from 3 shots to the back of the head


[18-Oct-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the 2 lawyers will need to die as well, can;t have witnesses


[18-Oct-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and all those pirates will have to die as well what with them likely spreading it off of netflix like wildfire


[18-Oct-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so many suicides, so little time


[18-Oct-19 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-50094551?fbclid=IwAR2yQxABameg_j-0P_RyIHQPFxXzCYJxFkaxOU0xCSnSS4diHEhGZPAXRKE

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First UK Chick-fil-A to close in LGBT rights row
The Oracle shopping centre decides "not to extend the lease" of the popular US fast-food chain.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/3844/production/_109240441_chickfila.jpg


[18-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What does that place offer that KFC doesn't


[18-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Never been to one


[18-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(and only to a KFC once)


[18-Oct-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
religion


[18-Oct-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same, though if i had to guess, at this point it;s just the "own the libs" version of kfc


[18-Oct-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since that's all i ever hear about it now


[18-Oct-19 06:54 PM] SemiDovich#0577
Taste?


[18-Oct-19 06:54 PM] SemiDovich#0577
Maybe????


[18-Oct-19 06:54 PM] SemiDovich#0577
Note that I kinda doubt it, based on what I've eaten from CFA


[18-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chick-fil-A is more expensive, less convenient, and weirder than KFC


[18-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sole reason it gets business is religion.


[18-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And forcing its employees to be nice.


[18-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man the Mulvaney walk back is pathetic


[18-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's barely a walk back, it's a flip of something he spent minutes elaborating on and defending with venom


[18-Oct-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Diggy diggy hole~


[18-Oct-19 07:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/mMrL2LGzJuQ

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Jonathan Pie
https://youtu.be/mMrL2LGzJuQ
Trump's Great and Unmatched Wisdom
This week, Trump went from Cilla Black to The Wizard of Oz whilst screwing his fellow allies hard in the arse. For tickets to see Jonathan Pie The FAKE NEWS ...
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[18-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie "Get over it"


[18-Oct-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
"I broke international law, get over it"


[18-Oct-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Can't imagine how they thought that'd go over well


[18-Oct-19 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/chkd6s1ck9t31.jpg

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[18-Oct-19 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
F E E T P I C S


[18-Oct-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yeah, I murdered a guy on 5th avenue, get over it"


[18-Oct-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't that bad...wait no shit that's #2, I mean, that didn't happen!


[18-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller's comment during the hearing was a slip up this wasn't


[18-Oct-19 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
which comment


[18-Oct-19 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sondland-trump-quid-pro-quo-text so sondland admitted under oath that trump told him to lie?

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Trump Repeatedly Told Sondland There Was No Quid Pro Quo In Call B...
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union who played a crucial role in President Trump and his lawyer’s...
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[18-Oct-19 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
public polls up to 54% for impeachment


[18-Oct-19 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/middleeast/syria-turkey-ceasefire-violations-intl/index.html

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Kurds say Turkey is violating hours-old 'ceasefire' in northern Syria
Clashes continued on the border between Turkey and Syria on Friday, according to eyewitnesses and Kurdish fighters, despite US Vice President Mike Pence's announcement that he and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had brokered a five-day ceasefire there.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191017212954-06-syria-turkey-conflict-1017-super-tease.jpg


[18-Oct-19 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
more war crimes


[18-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the Mueller comment where he said he would have recommended indictment absent that report that he walked back


[18-Oct-19 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/trump-letter-cnn-project-veritas-first-amendment.html

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Trump Writes Unhinged ‘Legal’ Letter Demanding That CNN Pay Hi...
Trump’s authoritarian side and his toddler side are both on display here.
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[18-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/466506-trump-campaign-sells-get-over-it-t-shirts

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Trump campaign sells 'Get over it' T-shirts
President Trump’s reelection campaign on Friday started selling T-shirts with the slogan “Get Over It,” a reference to recent remarks made by acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald3_101719getty.jpg


[18-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so was it a true statement that you're proud of or a misinterpretation


[18-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
who cares what it was, you simply need to Get Over It xD


[18-Oct-19 10:10 PM] ononim#8141
||
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7587357/Distressing-footage-emerges-children-chemical-burns-Syria.html
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Distressing footage emerges of children with 'chemical burns' in Syria
WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT: Distressing video and images captured in Syria before the ceasefire came into effect appears to show children with chemical weapons burns.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/18/09/19875502-0-image-a-13_1571387494618.jpg


[18-Oct-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course trump is making that his new campaign slogan


[18-Oct-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and erdogan is still commiting warcrimes liek the deranged psychopathic animal he is


[18-Oct-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ecdd42910b8d48fea3438de7c94b79ab

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White House plans G-7 agenda, tells world to 'get on board'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Get on board, world. That's the message from the White House as it starts shaping plans for next year's Group of Seven summit in Florida. Acting White House chief of...
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[19-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466527-house-republicans-demand-the-release-of-the-rules-on-impeachment#

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House Republicans 'demand the release of the rules' on impeachment
House Republicans are calling for the committee chairpersons overseeing the impeachment inquiry to release the guidelines and regulations under which depositions and transcriptions of testimony are being conducted.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mccarthykevin_092619gn4_lead.jpg


[19-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Republicans changed all the rules to make things easier on them and are just regretful now that they aren't the majority


[19-Oct-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they changed so much they confused themselves


[19-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They explicitly can issue these subpoenas


[19-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/466541-state-dept-cites-38-people-for-violations-in-clinton-email-review#

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State cites 38 people for violations in Clinton email review
A years-long internal State Department review of Hillary Clinton's private email server cited 38 people for violations, but found no "persuasive evidence" of classified information being systematically, de
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/clintonhillary_091719gn3_lead.jpg


[19-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/giuliani-shokin-state-visa-george-kent/index.html

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Giuliani pushed Trump administration to grant a visa to a Ukrainia...
Career diplomat George Kent told congressional investigators in his closed-door testimony this week that Rudy Giuliani asked the State Department and the White House to grant a visa to the former Ukrainian official who Joe Biden had pushed to have removed when he was vice pre...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191012134844-01-giuliani-super-tease.jpg


[19-Oct-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
gamers rose up https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/101819%20Wyden%20Letter%20to%20Activision%20Blizzard%20RE%20Hong%20Kong.pdf


[19-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
well they already covered their asses there.


[19-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
remember the open letter? That's what it was meant to counter.


[19-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I imagine it's either mr Congress Representative being a slowpoke, or, more likely, they wrote this letter knowing about Blizz's announcement already. So that they look good (they took action), and Blizz looks good (they realised and corrected their mistake, before they even were admonished), and this issue can be considered resolved.


[19-Oct-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China says that this is all political correctness


[19-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Midknight#9798
But in China, being politically correct is srs bsns


[19-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Midknight#9798
If you aren't, you disappear 😛


[19-Oct-19 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
this is a transitional period, I think.


[19-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
China's ideal is leading people into the world where social credit system dominates their thoughts and decisions on almost instinctual level, more so than even money for US. So that there would be no need for getting hands-on with anyone.


[19-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
if someone missteps hard enough, they get a SC hit severe enough that they'll beg to be taken into custody. At least there they'll get a dry floor to sleep and a warm meal once a day.


[19-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
THAT's the goal.


[19-Oct-19 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
an automated universal reward-and-punishment, with potential to adapt to both objective factors and Party's will.


[19-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
preferably AI-driven, to maintain objectivity. Karmic computer as a basis of society.


[19-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/asia/typhoon-hagibis-japan-rugby-intl-hnk/index.html

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Japan's deadly Typhoon Hagibis leaves trail of destruction
Typhoon Hagibis weakened to a tropical depression as it continued to move across central Japan on Sunday, leaving at least 31 people dead and 186 others injured in its wake, Japanese public broadcaster NHK reported.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191012182707-06-typhoon-hagibis-1012-super-tease.jpg


[19-Oct-19 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/senate-trump-court-pick-justin-walker-not-qualified_us_5da8a558e4b0b24e75def646

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Senate Advances Another Trump Court Pick Rated 'Not Qualified' To ...
Justin Walker lacks the experience to be a lifetime federal judge, the American Bar Association says. But Republicans are ready to confirm him anyway.
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[19-Oct-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/PiensaPrensa/status/1185311813434519552?s=08

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CHILE: URGENT URGENT 
They are shooting to kill! 
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[19-Oct-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine enforcing ride fares in Chile


[19-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda extreme for ride fare enforcement.


[19-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
this really needs more context.


[19-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember on the China thing that they allow tons of pro-LGBT stuff, but the moment you say Hong Kong is better off liberated you get slammed.


[19-Oct-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Metro: What if we increased fare costs, what's the worst that could happen?"

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[19-Oct-19 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
"One week Later."


[19-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
so people basicly refused to pay, and eventually shots been fired. What a mess...


[19-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
I found a video of the kid with the white phosphorus burns, but the sound has been stripped from it


[19-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to find one to send to my mom so I can thank god for trump


[19-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
"thank god for trump" is my new "thanks obama"


[19-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
every time trump fucks up, we can thank god for trump


[19-Oct-19 03:49 AM] rdibp#7607
🙏


[19-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitch-mcconnell-withdrawing-from-syria-is-a-grave-mistake/2019/10/18/c0a811a8-f1cd-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html


[19-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://imgur.com/a/EoijE57

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[19-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, if Congress like, actually declared war


[19-Oct-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
could Trump just say "no, fuck you" and "undeclare" war


[19-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[19-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could try to obstruct by what orders he givs the troops


[19-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but only within what's "reasonable" to enact what congress desires


[19-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning the judiciary could fukk him over


[19-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Congress declared war on ISIS, Trump could be absolutely dragged thru the fukking mud over not fighting it in Syria.


[19-Oct-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
but would he be


[19-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, declaring war is a power that ONLY CONGRESS has, but the Presidency has usurped in practice by just sending troops where it wants.


[19-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump defied McConnell, oh boy would he be.


[19-Oct-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
🇽


[19-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump deciding to pull out troops while McConnel gets war declared would be like, the precursor to impeachment seeing every Senate Republican voting to remove him from office.


[19-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if the courts told Trump to send the troops bakk and he didn't.


[19-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking now is the time for popcorn.


[19-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[19-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently my mom hates mcconnell for breaking ranks with trump now


[19-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
she used to say that "the liberal media" was just demonizing him, he wasn't that bad


[19-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
I've been trying fruitlessly to make her realize how much her view of the world seems tied to trump's approval of it, but I'm about to give up talking to her entirely


[19-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[19-Oct-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, I just read that washington post op-ed from mcconnell, he mentions obama 3 times, but doesn't mention trump a single time


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes it's the usual hand-wringing where they try to blame the Dems while pointing out their own shit is terrible.


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
though to be fair, obama's shitty policies in iraq did create ISIS


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But at the end of the day he may hav to declare war or lose reelection.


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
trump's shitty policies in syria are bringing them back


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bla bla the situation we just created is horrible BUT OBAMA...


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
i expect she'll claim the country's fucked when trump leaves office @Crow


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
The US problem with Islamic terror groups is fairly self-inflicted


[19-Oct-19 04:33 AM] Mikey#7286
whether by force or voluntariliy


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hilarious thing to me is that one of my states senators would be one to break rank and vote for removal


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, she says that as soon as ANY democrat becomes president, no matter who they are, the country will rapidly devolve into a socialist dystopia like china and venezuela


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Mikey#7286
:OMEGALUL:


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Simply because he is so beyond caring/questionably corrupt that he doesn't care


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Mikey#7286
>china is socialist


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His wife is one of the top lobbyists in DC


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has tons of shit invested into the Middle East


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
your mom doesn't even know what socialism is


[19-Oct-19 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
so


[19-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Mikey#7286
your mom is retarded


[19-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow's mom thinks socialism is what Sweden is doing, but that Sweden isn't doing it.


[19-Oct-19 04:35 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] yeah, that's something a lot of people would prefer to forget.


[19-Oct-19 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent which remark are you referring to


[19-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
the self-inflicted bit?


[19-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah


[19-Oct-19 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[19-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, no, norway


[19-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
she thinks that norway isn't socialist, but thinks that all of their policies are socialist when presented separately from norway


[19-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
she thinks sweden is a warzone with all sorts of "no-go zones" filled with violent, lust-crazed, soldier-age muslim men raping all the women


[19-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And she thinks such policies would destroy any country that would enact them.


[19-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
yes, she seems to be under the impression that not limiting health insurance companies to within their states and letting health insurance companies act nationally without borders would increase competition and reduce the cost of health insurance


[19-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
because free market capitalism etc


[19-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a fairly rational conclusion given that they act fairly


[19-Oct-19 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
we know already though that they don't


[19-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
the main problem with that is that healthcare isn't a profitable business unless you make incredibly shitty decisions


[19-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing about competing nationally is California could just require X, Y, and Z to do business in it


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
she compares healthcare to the falling price of televisions


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
well, not just shitty, but immoral decisions


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then completely crush conservative efforts to make for-profit healthcare shittier.


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
she uses california's bloat as evidence that medicare for all wouldn't work


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
california is the best state to live in


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
the irony in all of this is that she's on medi-cal


[19-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
which is california's medicaid


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's how she got her mastectomy when she had breast cancer a couple years ago


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it's often the poor who endorse their own destruction.


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
it does have problems with massively overbudget public programs, certainly, and the cost of living is sky high because of gentrification


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being poor makes it harder to reason politically.


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
but it is the best state to live in in the US


[19-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And makes you want to sukk up to those in power out of fear.


[19-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could've told farmers Trump would destroy them with tariff wars


[19-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they still would've voted for him believing you.


[19-Oct-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
That's just fascist roots


[19-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, idk if any other country has done that competition thing for health insurance, but we already have the 30+ other western countries who use the equivalent of medicare for all (single-payer health insurance) who seem to have massively lower healthcare costs than the amount the US spends federally, leaving out the fact that the private healthcare in the US is already way more expensive


[19-Oct-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
because every medical instutition that has ever existed routinely defrauds medicare


[19-Oct-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
and there's no real threat of repercussions for it


[19-Oct-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
in fact republican governors openly brag about it


[19-Oct-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
and then there's the thing where they have to pay market rates for prescription drugs... wtf


[19-Oct-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I was recently given an exhaustive list of every single drug, prescription and OTC, that can be given in Luxembourg, and I did not see any where a month's supply was more than €20


[19-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dead people can't pay taxes, is the EU way


[19-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile in the US, corps don't see past the next financial quarter, so gotta milk every penny and fuck the future


[19-Oct-19 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Btw that was pre-reimbursement


[19-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Most drugs are reimbursed so the monthly cost to the person is €2-5


[19-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, most people don't actually have to pay full price for those bottles


[19-Oct-19 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Pharmaceutical ads are banned outright


[19-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Experimental drugs are allowed but it is not allowed to make things like chlorinated or methylated drug analogs as a new patent


[19-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
You just won't be allowed to sell the drug in Luxembourg period


[19-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
BuT iNnOvAtIoN


[19-Oct-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Only the old one


[19-Oct-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
There are something like 300 biologically active drugs which are derivatives of phenothiazine


[19-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
They all have the same mechanism


[19-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
They're all sold in the US under different names and different patents simultaneously


[19-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Luxembourg allows exactly one (though the choice to me of whuch one precisely is questionable): prothipendyl


[19-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
corruption simply takes different forms in EU than in US.


[19-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if xiidra is available in europe


[19-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
xiidra is an eyedrop made to fight dry eye syndrome


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
I got to get a couple months supply of it after I got lasik due to a coupon they had


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
but otherwise, a single box filled with 30 days worth of the stuff was like $280


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
no indication on whether it is


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
also this is the first time I've ever seen anyone say unironically than CF is a good state to live in :D


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it is!


[19-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a great state to live in


[19-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the main problem is outrageous gentrification


[19-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.novartis.com/sites/www.novartis.com/files/2019-05-novartis-xiidra-ir-call-presentation.pdf


[19-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
novartis is based in switzerland


[19-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently is buying xiidra


[19-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the dry eye syndrome market has been stifled by the fact that there's over the counter eyedrops that mask the symptoms without attempting to solve the underlying problem


[19-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's my point byte, a great state to live in if not for the myriad issues, most of them about costs and regulations of things


[19-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
but, again. Different strokes for different folks.


[19-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
xiidra is effective at solving the underlying problem (from personal experience)


[19-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
those myriad issues aren't much of an issue other than the "oh fuck rent is $2000 per month"


[19-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
you know the big one


[19-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, to be on medi-cal, you can't have more than $15,000 and you can't have your name on more than one car


[19-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
so you'd be forced to pay for health insurance if you had one of these two things


[19-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
basically, there's a pretty big issue with obamacare's mandate that you must have health insurance, or else you'll start accruing a yearly tax increase


[19-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
especially in states that don't have free health insurance options


[19-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
just give it time


[19-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
neoliberalism can fuck any place up


[19-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, california's been getting fucked up by neoliberalism for decades


[19-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Gas_and_Electric_Company>


[19-Oct-19 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
you had neocons too


[19-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
> The Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) is an American investor-owned utility (IOU) with publicly traded stock


[19-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
INVESTOR-OWNED UTILITY WITH PUBLICLY TRADED STOCK


[19-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
this is peak neoliberalism


[19-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
it has a monopoly on northern california (which includes the bay area), and like 5 other IOUs have split up southern california


[19-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives bitch all the time about liberals moving into "red states" but like, please, we're not trying to convert you, we're trying to escape neoliberal hell


[19-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
progressives didn't vote for this they voted for socialism


[19-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
and our representatives were like "nah"


[19-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/maps/serviceareas/electric_service_areas.gif

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[19-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember in the first Flim Flam episode


[19-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
how AJ apparently had a *gov't-enforced* monopoly


[19-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite being unable to run her fukking business to meet demand


[19-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there was a stupid contest where the winner there and then would be handed the monopoly?


[19-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
As stupid as fukk as that was, it's pretty much how American politics actually work.


[19-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just we hav less transparency about it.


[19-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get these people <https://derpibooru.org/dis/you-laugh-you-lose/post/4563368#post_4563368>


[19-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Yeah, sure there are indeed Trump supporters who are like that, but I can’t help but go "pfft" to that pic. Artist of pic confirmed for delusional emotionally deranged fool.


[19-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
> there are indeed Trump supporters who are like that


[19-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Artist of pic confirmed for delusional emotionally deranged fool.


[19-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
they literally contradict themselves with their own words


[19-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like/hate how I can tell exactly who that anon is regardless of where they post


[19-Oct-19 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Nebbie I mean, that's also guild politics at work too. But then, AJ isn't all the apple production in Equestria because Appelosa also exists and who knows who else. If anything it's AJ practicing guild political economy of doing only so much supply as she wants to get the prices she wants and no one else regulating it. The State could support it by not commenting or saying she has the right.


[19-Oct-19 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/OC2cetK

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Somebody just got murdered
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[19-Oct-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
apparently mattis roasted trump a few times


[19-Oct-19 08:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
scroll back a bit to see why it was so 🔥 that Mattis referred to him as "Donald Trump"


[19-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
?


[19-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
> Mattis riffed that he "earned my spurs at the battlefield" while Trump "earned his spurs from a letter from the doctor". Ouch. lol


[19-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
was there something posted here?


[19-Oct-19 08:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/overrated-general-mattis-zings-trump-n-y-charity-gala-n1068481

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'Overrated general' Mattis zings Trump at N.Y. charity gala
"I'm honored to be considered that by Donald Trump because he also called Meryl Streep an overrated actress," he joked.
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[19-Oct-19 08:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, the tl;dr is that Mattis, being a military guy who chooses his words carefully, would use the title of anyone he's talking about. He conspicuously did *not* with the President.


[19-Oct-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
oh jesus, he refers to schumer as "senator schumer", but doesn't even bother with trump


[19-Oct-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
that's probably as big of an insult as you can possibly get, too bad it would fly right over trump's head


[19-Oct-19 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lexi4prez/status/1185212186001625088

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This new @BernieSanders ad tho...... https://t.co/HOL9IE4r73
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[19-Oct-19 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
`how AJ apparently had a gov't-enforced monopoly`


[19-Oct-19 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
monopoly, yes, on local level. Government-enforced, no.


[19-Oct-19 01:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Apples were hard capped on production and unwilling, or unable, to expand to fill the market. Someone tried to exploit that. They failed because the quality sucked and the customer base rejected them, not because they were sued into oblivion or discouraged to do so in a more brutal fashion.


[19-Oct-19 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
in fact, I'd argue that this is the ideal of business/market/customer interaction. When all was said and done, personal biases and politics aside, they were judged by the quality of their product and were found wanting.


[19-Oct-19 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
(and AJ hopefully learned something or other about seasonal labor)


[19-Oct-19 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/98cb4ab6e6dd4c4c934d5727741ff64b

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Trump touts Turkey cease-fire, even as it appears shaky
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is pushing back at criticism that his Syria withdrawal is damaging U.S. credibility, betraying Kurdish allies and opening the door for a possible...
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[19-Oct-19 05:50 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/l-appel-de-59-deputes-la-france-doit-demander-que-la-turquie-soit-suspendue-de-l-otan-20191018

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L’appel de 59 députés: «La France doit demander que la Turqui...
TRIBUNE - Cinquante-neuf députés siégeant dans les huit groupes politiques de l’Assemblée nationale appellent Emmanuel Macron à tout mettre en œuvre pour que des sanctions soient prises à l’encontre d’Ankara et que nos alliés kurdes soient aidés.
https://i.f1g.fr/media/eidos/630x354_crop/2019/10/18/XVM86c7f516-f1af-11e9-abb7-4251c6b7d984.jpg


[19-Oct-19 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[19-Oct-19 06:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I haven't translated but at first glance this appears to be something about the French president and sanctions on Turkey over their attacks on the Kurds


[19-Oct-19 06:14 PM] ononim#8141
59 french MPs want to yeet Turkey out of NATO over this shit


[19-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, the only reason they're even in NATO is cause cold war and muh communism.


[19-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
so maybe their time is up. Or maybe not, depending on if whoever you ask thinks cold war's over or not


[19-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's to have large enough airbases in the area


[19-Oct-19 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those predator and reaper drones need refueling, and refueling planes need somewhere to refuel


[19-Oct-19 06:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and keep nukes, *apparently*


[19-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeesh
https://abcnews.go.com/US/video-shows-oregon-coach-disarming-student-embracing-police/story?id=66389192

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Video showed the moment Oregon coach Keanon Lowe disarmed and embraced a student who entered the school with a shotgun.
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[19-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
heroes among us. Mad props.


[19-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mayor Mare explicitly said the competition was over who was *allowed* to be the *only* seller of apple products in Ponyville.


[19-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was most definitely gov't-enforced.


[19-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
the first one who said 'exclusive rights', was one of F&F. They forced this clause into their competition rules.


[19-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
also, cider specifically, not apple products in general, buuuuut before that AJ mentions 'cider keeps up afloat in the winter, we lose that - we might lose the farm'


[19-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
(which I have a problem with for different reasons, but let's go with it)


[19-Oct-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-a-million-people-are-jailed-at-china-s-gulags-i-escaped-here-s-what-goes-on-inside-1.7994216?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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A million people are jailed at China's gulags. I managed to escape...
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[19-Oct-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CW: violence and gore


[19-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/arslan_hidayat/status/1185503715140214786


[19-Oct-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder


[19-Oct-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"So what will we do this day? Will we rise above or will we sink below? Will we condone this President's conduct or will we condemn it? Will we change our standards or will we change our President?"- Mitch McConnell, 1999


[19-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sink below, condone, change standards."- McConnell, 2019


[19-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Opponent#3498
times change, and so does the signature on the paycheck.


[19-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rep-tulsi-gabbard-gets-2020-endorsement-from-david-duke-2019-10-19

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard gets 2020 endorsement from David Duke
Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has apparently gotten an endorsement she said she can do without — from former KKK leader David Duke.
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[19-Oct-19 10:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To the surprise of no one


[19-Oct-19 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
lol wut


[19-Oct-19 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you know anything about Gabbard you'd know she's *exactly* the sort of candidate to attract an endorsement from Duke


[19-Oct-19 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
why


[19-Oct-19 10:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-conservative-media-and-the-far-right-love-tulsi-gabbard-for-president

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Why Conservative Media and the Far Right Love Tulsi Gabbard for Pr...
The enigmatic congresswoman has earned substantial praise from many across the right—from Fox News star Tucker Carlson to white nationalists like David Duke.
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[19-Oct-19 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
actually it looks like the Duke endorsement is nothing new


[19-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
so what, all the conservatism with none of the independance? xD


[19-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Opponent#3498
fun


[19-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I've always been in it for bernie anyway


[19-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that would be best


[19-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Here you are you fucking ingrates, now vote"- DNC, Summer 2020 as they pick Bernie


[20-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The coach handling a school shooter from before, looks like the kid's intention was to blow his head off in front of the class instead of shoot others


[20-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
you know they're gonna charge him like it was a school shooting though


[20-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was charged with 3 years probation for carrying a loaded gun in a public building


[20-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
nice. Sanity prevailed, for fucking once.


[20-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lexi4prez/status/1185212186001625088

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[20-Oct-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-doral-g7-summit-white-house-mick-mulvaney-walter-shaub-a9162441.html

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Former White House ethics director on Trump giving his own hotel G...
'There is no level of corruption greater than a President participating in the award of a contract to himself'
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[20-Oct-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
> Asked further questions about how the decision was made, Mr Mulvaney replied: “If you want to see our paper on how we did this, the answer is absolutely not.”


[20-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
`We have reached the bottom`


[20-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
did you now xD


[20-Oct-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[20-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good then you have no qualms with Democrats doing proceedings in private right Mulvaney


[20-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can always go lower than the bottom.


[20-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dig up a native american burial ground, and demand that the meeting be held there.


[20-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to speak, members must announce they want to by smashing a priceless artifact stolen from on-site hostage archeologists.


[20-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically go full Taliban.


[20-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Republicans actually want.


[20-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Opponent#3498
`“The cardinal sin of the Trump presidency is the conversion of his public office into an instrument of private gain and campaign activity.”`


[20-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
this implies most people don't go into politics for this reason and this reason only.


[20-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
not during the presidency, no


[20-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's arrogance that leads everyone into it


[20-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
that comes after


[20-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not normal in America for politicians to brazenly display large private gains made from being such.


[20-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
the presidency has been converted into an instrument of private gain/campaign activity by trump


[20-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally senators etc. are already wealthy and just quietly get lobbyist money.


[20-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Presidency in this regard is normally a downgrade.


[20-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giving up private gains potentials in return for giving bakk to the party that put you in power.


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Trump is doing isn't by any means close to normal.


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's upped the ante.


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still want an executive council. It would just be Trump, Bernie, and two other Republicans but it would be hilarious


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/civil-rights/federal-judge-declares-gop-poll-tax-unconstitutional-says-state-cant-restrict-right-to-vote-based-on-ability-to-pay/

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Federal Judge Declares GOP ‘Poll Tax’ Unconstitutional, Says S...
A federal court in Florida has ruled that it is unconstitutional to deny individuals with prior felony convictions the right to vote based on their inability to pay fees and fines. Friday's decision restores the right to vote for plaintiffs who otherwise would be eligible to ...
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[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, his cardinal sin is being too obvious about it.


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
So obviously unconstitutional I can't imagine how it took this long to be overturned


[20-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just more obvious, it's much more intense.


[20-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
yes, trump's blatantly profiting hugely off of his presidency


[20-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this Syria stuff has soured the Senate GOP so much that they might vote for removal


[20-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
when before, it would be little tiny things in the background that weren't actually illegal


[20-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean seriously now


[20-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is Kentucky going to do, vote Democrat?


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
They're running a democrat


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
does the VP become president if the president is removed from office?


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are so partisan that they'll vote for the party even if someone removed Trump


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
However mitch's polling seems to be solid


[20-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
so all that stuff about kentuckians hating mcconnell doesn't actually translate to removing him


[20-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Florida is gonna be blue this election.


[20-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people finally hav almost equal voting rights there.


[20-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
what if they appeal to the supreme court


[20-Oct-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Scotus will almost certainly affirm the lower court's decision


[20-Oct-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It is so obviously unconstitutional that there's no way even _Gorsuch_ would dissent


[20-Oct-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Oct-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

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Rudy Giuliani in Drag Smooching Donald Trump
Yes, it's former NYC mayor Rody Giuliani in drag having his "breasts" shamelessly violated by "Apprentice" tycoon Donald Trump. Clip from new doc GIULIANI TI...
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[20-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Midknight#9798
hay now, don't post stuff like that. there is a line, brony!


[20-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Midknight#9798
you're gonna make people sick!


[20-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie some people are saying Ohio is the new Missouri


[20-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No longer a bellwether, places like NC or FL are that now


[20-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I'm amazed no candidate has had "Rebuild the (Blue) Wall" as a slogan


[20-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/2RdNBnq.png

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Anon has an Ohio Fetish
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[20-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
did someone say... ohio?


[20-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
ohio gozaimasu


[20-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people against eliminating the EC because "California, Texas, Florida, and NY would decide every election"


[20-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I said "Like how Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina do now?"


[20-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Midknight#9798
it would mean the 40% of people in the states with a history reliably voting one way or another suddenly matter


[20-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
what is EC?


[20-Oct-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Electoral College


[20-Oct-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the way that the US decided to give votes to land instead of people


[20-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
...why?


[20-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
because muh states rights


[20-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
which they promptly disregard as soon as there's a state doing something that republicans don't like


[20-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Founding fathers didn't want street urchins and do-nothing city dwellers to decide elections, so they rigged a system to give more power to land owners ("farmers")


[20-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
figures.


[20-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
i thought it was a tech thing where the electoral college was the most feasible at the time, but no one bothered to get rid of it when it was outdated


[20-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
no, it was 100% about slave owners getting inordinate amounts of political power just for being land owners


[20-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
It was never the most feasible


[20-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There is no reason to not have direct representation other than wanting certain people to have less power than others


[20-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no technical difference between providing a singular answer or several numbers.


[20-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
this was definitely intended to work this way.


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
by the way, if you think this is weird


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
senators used to be elected by state legislatures


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
not by the people they represent


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
that was so obviously rigged against citizens that we had an amendment to get rid of it


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that was also for states' rights


[20-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm thinking it's weird that people where their party is a minority bother to go to elections in the first place.


[20-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
their vote literally doesn't matter. Not by corruption, by law.


[20-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
for the most part in the US, despite all the voter suppression and russian election meddling, we believe in free and fair elections


[20-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
unless the population dynamics change which is entirely irrelevant to the election campaign and it's goals.


[20-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
that's why we vote


[20-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's evidently not quite that easy


[20-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
a majority of the country sides with the democrats on the issues


[20-Oct-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
but we consistently elect republicans to office instead. why? gerrymandering and voter suppression on behalf of the GOP, among other things


[20-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
considering that districts aren't taken into account, it's horrifying how shitty senators are always voted back in decade after decade


[20-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah but what good does it do you to believe in free and fair elections, when the outcome of an election is determined by population dynamics, more than anything else?


[20-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Midknight#9798
that the electorate is dumb enough to deserve what it gets, unfortunately


[20-Oct-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
the outcome of an election is determined by who spent the most money on their campaign


[20-Oct-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
in almost all cases


[20-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't vote because you'll lose, the winning party will think it can do whatever it wants because it'll always win


[20-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
well, the california GOP doesn't exist anymore


[20-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Midknight#9798
and california is getting crazier every year


[20-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And since the ideas of the losers won't even be known given their lack of any sort of representation, only the winning party exists at all


[20-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
no, california's not getting crazy


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's always had a baseline sort of crazy that people think is getting worse but has always been the same


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
mainly due to neoliberalism


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
(silicon valley is peak neoliberal paradise)


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism is why there's such a huge amount of homelessness in california


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
and why there's nothing being done to effectively address the problem


[20-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
California, colloqually known as Commiefornia, although failing on that front as well.


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
lmao california is not communist in any sense of the word


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
they have INVESTOR-OWNED UTILITIES


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I never said they were.


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
if anything they're fucked because they're not socialist enough


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
but I've heard that term a LOT


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
neoliberalism has poisoned everything


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
mostly because people don't understand anything anymore.


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
and don't care.


[20-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
and it sounds neat :3


[20-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, because of neoliberalism, all of the solutions to the problem have been to hire private companies to take care of it, but they just keep the money while barely doing anything


[20-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
because the government can't tell a private company what to do, only tell them what they CAN'T do


[20-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
so like PG&E, the main energy company in california, don't control the prices of electricity, that's controlled by the state government


[20-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
but the state government can't force PG&E to go out and fix the infrastructure


[20-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Midknight#9798
"you can't have public money if you dont' do the thing you were paid to do" would be a good start it sounds like


[20-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the solutions to the homeless problem have always been "build more affordable housing", but there's already more than enough housing to house all of the homeless in california with plenty of room to spare


[20-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
1/8 houses/apartments/whatever in california are empty


[20-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
1/15 people in california are homeless


[20-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
it'd help your argument to provide numbers instead of ratios but I get the point


[20-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
basically, politicians are lining the pockets of companies of friends/family or even their own companies instead of fixing the actual problem


[20-Oct-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the main problem I see there is rampant gentrification especially in LA and in the bay area


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
these ratios are far enough apart that they paint a picture by themselves.


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
the property values don't make any sense


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
(now if this was even it would be different)


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/An-estimated-100-000-homes-are-sitting-empty-in-13692007.php

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An estimated 100,000 homes are sitting empty in the San Francisco ...
Here's a number that will make anyone trying to find a place to live in San Francisco frustrated: An estimated 100,025 households are sitting vacant.
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[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
that's JUST SAN FRANCISCO


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> investor-owned utilities


[20-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's a yikes from me


[20-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
25k USD per square meter I guess


[20-Oct-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
basically


[20-Oct-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it's so bad


[20-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
> The **Pacific Gas and Electric Company** (**PG&E**) is an American investor-owned utility (IOU) with publicly traded stock


[20-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
> PG&E is one of four regulated, investor-owned utilities (IOUs) in California; the other three are PacifiCorp's Pacific Power, Southern California Edison and Sempra Energy's San Diego Gas & Electric.


[20-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Midknight#9798
i live in a place with a Public Utility Department. works good, power almost never goes out, and came back fast the few times it did 😛


[20-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
How many of those investors are ||from China|| :twismug:


[20-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
51% xD


[20-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
or like 40% giving them 2/5 seats, enough to dictate action without attracting too much attention.


[20-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe Tencent is investing in American infrastructure :pudding:


[20-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/vacancy-tax/

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L.A. City Council Members Want To Put a Tax on Vacant Homes
Could an "empty housing penalty" ease the region’s housing crisis?
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[20-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
> According to 2017 census data, there are approximately 100,000 vacant homes in the city of Los Angeles—that’s nearly twice the number needed to house the some 58,936 individuals that are homeless in the greater L.A. area.


[20-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
so from what I can tell, the number of empty houses vs the number of homeless ratios seem to match up in pretty much every major california city


[20-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
@Marukomuru they invest into everything

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[20-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
about twice the number of empty houses as compared to homeless


[20-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
I recently was idly browsing through scientometric bases, including US ones, couple days ago


[20-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
tensent crops up among investors for US even there time and again :D


[20-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Midknight#9798
that might temporarily drive rent rates down to get them filled, but it's not gonna help anyone who's living on the street without a job


[20-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao


[20-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
47% of homeless in the US have a job


[20-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Midknight#9798
not one that pays enough to get a place to live though


[20-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not having a home is a big hurdle to getting a job in the first place


[20-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-housing-first-20150524-story.html

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Utah is winning the war on chronic homelessness with 'Housing Firs...
Terry Birch recalls walking cautiously into the tiny one-bedroom apartment seven months ago, like a cat exploring a box, or something wild fearful of a trap.
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[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: utah defunded this thing back in early 2019 and suddenly the homeless problem came back with a vengeance


[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
or maybe 2018


[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
but last I heard, they were scrambling to refund the program


[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
this is why you should never trust a neoliberal


[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
with your money


[20-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
they're so concerned about penny-pinching that they would pull the rug out from millions of people just to save an extra couple dollars


[20-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If I ever win the lotto big time or just get a massive windfall, I'd buy a property and turn it into cheap apartments for people that can't afford normal rent


[20-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-homelessness-housing/once-a-national-model-utah-struggles-with-homelessness-idUSKCN1P41EQ

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Once a national model, Utah struggles with homelessness
SALT LAKE CITY (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Once lauded as a leader among U.S....
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[20-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not slumlord, but proper style


[20-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it was early 2019


[20-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
> Once lauded as a leader among U.S. cities struggling to relieve homelessness, the number of people sleeping rough in Utah’s capital has spiked in the past two years, as funding for its groundbreaking housing program dried up.


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
> The increase has been particularly noticeable in Utah, which had reduced chronic homelessness by 91 percent over the decade up to 2015, according to the state’s annual homelessness report.


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
> Experts attributed the drop to a “Housing First” policy, adopted by the state in 2005, which focused on getting people into housing, regardless of mental illness or substance abuse problems that could be treated after accommodation was secured.


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
basically, they all but solved the homeless problem, so they defunded the program that was solving the homeless problem


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
and the homeless problem came back

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[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every few months there's some "pod homes" or whatever thing that's basically what I envision, but it ends up being some dystopian crap for hipsters in silicon valley that want to work for Uber or some shit but can't pay rent


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
this is nearly full retard


[20-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
`“It’s not just more compassionate — it’s cheaper.”`


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the ideal.


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Midknight#9798
"work for uber" nobody works for uber, don't you know? they're all independent contractors, paid barely enough to cover fuel and vehicle depreciation


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
when there's no conflict between conscience and bank account


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and people don't do it everywhere, if it can work this well? Suprising.


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The uber app shit


[20-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, TONS of "socialist" programs like single-payer and homeless solutions are way cheaper long-term


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
they just have a high start-up cost


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Midknight#9798
yep


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Midknight#9798
the start up cost would be a lot more affordable if people stopped giving corporations major tax breaks when they're already posting "record profits" every year


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, I noticed an job application for the equivalent of uber, except for groceries


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
called shipt


[20-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There're tonnes


[20-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.shipt.com/

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[20-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gig economy is horrific


[20-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
See so many food delivery bikes and mopeds around town now


[20-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Great for the restaurants, great for the app owners, the drivers, though


[20-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, better than nothing I guess


[20-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Midknight#9798
I thought up creating a service like that probably 15 years ago, but decided "If I'd rather go get my own than pay the markup for such a service,  and I'm lazy, it probably wouldn't take off"


[20-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Midknight#9798
Clearly, I neglected to consider that populations tend to get lazier over time 😄


[20-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
no, the population has always been this lazy


[20-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's been proven over and over that people prefer convenience over quality


[20-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am constantly astounded people pay for named brand over generic or store brand


[20-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I get it if it's something like beer or whatnot


[20-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But a can of kidney beans


[20-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Midknight#9798
depends on the item. Tillamook cheese tastes better than the store brand, but I'll definitely get the store brand sour cream every time 😛


[20-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why pay 25% more for a fancier brand


[20-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, tillamook's extra sharp white cheddar cheese is like 18% more than safeway brand, but it lasts a lot longer in the refrigerator and tastes better


[20-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Midknight#9798
that's why i buy organic milk--a half gallon lasts a month in the fridge instead of less than a week. Cheaper over time even though it costs 2x as much, because I use just a little of it


[20-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
get pasteurized milk in tetrabriks, that shit lasts months


[20-Oct-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
my milk (pasteurized) lasts for 2-3 weeks


[20-Oct-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
and I get the cheapest 2%


[20-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Midknight#9798
well then maybe the store brand pasteurizer isn't very good. i just know the ultra-pasteurized organic stuff lasts better


[20-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Midknight#9798
you don't want to be making dinner, and pour milk to add to it and find out it's all clumpy


[20-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't buy organic anything if I can avoid it


[20-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it's code for "more expensive and shittier"


[20-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Midknight#9798
it is. it's the ultra-pasteurized part that makes the milk worth it 😛


[20-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I am however known to visit whole foods sometimes


[20-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Midknight#9798
just walk in there and laugh at the hipsters paying 14.99 for a bottle of water with a stalk of asparagus in it


[20-Oct-19 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
mostly because they have a really wide selection of meats, I'm not the vegetarian I wish I could be, and it's closer than giant eagle


[20-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Midknight#9798
"but it's organic, free-range, gmo-free, non-cruelty asparagus water!"

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[20-Oct-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I would actually like to go vegan, and I truly mean it


[20-Oct-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
But I'm not psychologically prepared to give up meat or cheese or honey or ...


[20-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I gave up beef a good while ago


[20-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cheapest cuts are 7euro/kilo


[20-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And those are gone before I'm off from work


[20-Oct-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't much like beef or lamb to begin with


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Midknight#9798
when they start doing hydroponically grown beef that actually tastes good, using electric-shock conditioning to make it not-mushy on an industrial scale to keep costs low I'll be happy to switch


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
And it's not vegan because I care about animals, though I certainly do think they at least should be treated ethically while they are alive


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
It's because eating meat is really bad for the environment and there's not much you can do about it


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They started selling mealworm meat here


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, 30euro/kilo


[20-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuuuck that


[20-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Midknight#9798
i'm not sure that it is


[20-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mealworm, sorry


[20-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Midknight#9798
yes, cows fart. but you know what? dead vegetation rots and releases the gasses it pulled from the atmosphere, too


[20-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Midknight#9798
it's not like that pasture was a more or less permanent carbon sink, the way the buried stuff that became coal over millions of years was


[20-Oct-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
not in any meaningful degree


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[20-Oct-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
dead vegetation gets reabsorbed very quickly because fixed carbon is essential to maintaining life


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ground up, it's protein all the same, takes a tenth of the resources than beef per kilo or less


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Midknight#9798
stop burning fossil fuels, and you've solved the vast majority of emmissions


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would try, but price is still absurd


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
larger things like trees are massive carbon sinks and if they are not burned the carbon they capture is removed from the air forever


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel like I'd die if I was entirely denied red meat. And if I can afford anything at all, I'll start with that.


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk taxing vacant homes, REPOSSESS them from landlords.


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Midknight#9798
cows don't eat trees though


[20-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
beef for boiling, pork for grilling. Goodie.


[20-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't having housing to house people? NOT ON OUR WATCH


[20-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
TURN OVER THE HOUSE NOW


[20-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Midknight#9798
and a lot of grazing range isn't suitable for tree growth


[20-Oct-19 04:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cow farts


[20-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's actually cow belches


[20-Oct-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
it's easy to say "stop burning oil and we can stop worrying about climate change" when we can't in any realistic way, not all at once, even if we literally ran every well dry tomorrow and bombed every reserve of it


[20-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Midknight#9798
fart, belch, same dif


[20-Oct-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not putting the burden all on consumers, but we as consumers can make differences on our behalf to make things better


[20-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_aliases belch to fart_


[20-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Midknight#9798
if there weren't 7.5 billion of us greedy apes running around it'd be a lot easier 😛


[20-Oct-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
most of those 7.5B do not contribute any significant amount


[20-Oct-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the fucking americans


[20-Oct-19 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie

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[20-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Three cars, central heating running with windows open, heated outdoor pool with flood lighting on all day


[20-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Midknight#9798
yeah, that's actually not most americans


[20-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
don't you mean the rich americans


[20-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
outdoor heated pool sounds hella dope tho, not gonna lie.


[20-Oct-19 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
because 100 companies contribute 71% of the total carbon emissions


[20-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
basicly impossible to get there anywhere except like top 500 housings


[20-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Greenhouse gases from cows and sheep even if completely removed wouldn't really come anywhere close to targets on lowering global warming.


[20-Oct-19 04:16 AM] Midknight#9798
most of our emmissions were industrial, and last chart i saw showed we went from 138 (billion tons?) / year to only 5 or 6


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breeding sheep that belch less methane is a noble goal and all but it's simply not anywhere near a single solution.


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Midknight#9798
We have room to get better, but we're not supplying the entire world with manufactured goods now


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gasoline cars should be **illegal to sell**


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coal power plants should be demolished by the army by force.


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
En masse.


[20-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people don't want solar and wind, tell them nuclear's an option.


[20-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are way too deep in the shit to be squabbling over stopping this shit.


[20-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The next 20 years is gonna involve millions of people dying as the sea encroaches on their homes while places like Australia say "nah we're full" as they hav like a shitton of space.


[20-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Midknight#9798
saudis and australians are actually significantly worse per-capita than americans. thankfully not very many people so the total output isn't as bad 😛


[20-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coal should be illegal in Australia, jfc


[20-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their prideful reef is dying and they're building coal plants next to the shore.


[20-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Midknight#9798
i'm all for nuclear


[20-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Midknight#9798
finish yucca mountain or actually invest in reprocessing research if you're concerned about waste


[20-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people aren't, the point of providing it as an alternative is to manipulate people into actually not being fukking retards about solar and wind.


[20-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich fukks say solar and wind are "ugly" and will band together against its adoption in their areas.


[20-Oct-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
NIMBY is the dumbest shit


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's mostly based around rich people who don't like new things or things that giv economic power to the currently poor.


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Midknight#9798
the only reason I don't have solar is where i live we're on hydro power and it's so cheap that solar doesn't compete, especially with our rain 😛


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
we are at the point where


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would not be unreasonable to send military forces to destroy other countries' coal power plants


[20-Oct-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they refuse to take them out on their own.


[20-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out we are the evil aliens that want to poison the planet.


[20-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Midknight#9798
uh-huh. because wwIII will be great for the environment


[20-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Short of causing a nuclear winter...yes actually.


[20-Oct-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once you kill most of the humans, nature recovers even in pretty irradiated areas.


[20-Oct-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, unbounded human growth fukks the environment.


[20-Oct-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out when you burn the rainforest, pave the river, and burn all the coal under it, it fukks shit up.


[20-Oct-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT


[20-Oct-19 04:24 AM] Midknight#9798
this is why i wouldn't object too much to mandatory birth control. there's enough shitty parents out there that shouldn't have kids, that if you want to be a parent, you should be required to take classes, and be licensed and inspected. You're caring for a sapient life, not a freaking doll you can replace for 19.99 if you fuck up


[20-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Birth rates are down


[20-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're looking at the wrong problem.


[20-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Midknight#9798
nope. because they're not down among shitty people who shouldn't have kids.


[20-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Changing who has kids is a very inefficient way to fix the resources we use.


[20-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, the way you make people hav less kids


[20-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
is you make their economic conditions better


[20-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The **reason** people pump out kids in large amounts when starving etc. is that it's a double-or-nothing style strategy.


[20-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they're poor and see that becoming rich would be impossible to do legitimately, the only way to win is to play a lottery.


[20-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The kids are like tikkets.


[20-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually, one of them might make it big.


[20-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fix wealth inequality and you fix a *lot* of tangential problems.


[20-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Trump said Doral isn't gonna host G7


[20-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Deleted User#0000
solar has a hella big carbon footprint


[20-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Deleted User#0000
nuclear is a far better option


[20-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if you powered things with solar to begin with then it would hav a lot less of a footprint.


[20-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Camp David is the only proper place to have a G7 in the US


[20-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Deleted User#0000
not to mention extreme maintenance costs


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Deleted User#0000
like seriously jfc


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Deleted User#0000
solar is a waste of time and a scam


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We stopped decades of nuclear development because of Three Mile Island


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maintenance costs are *higher*, but they're the only cost it has


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Solar is far from "a scam"


[20-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a much, much better option than coal, and it has lower maintenance than wind.


[20-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having solar on everyone's rooftops in most suburban areas would mean lots of solar repair industry yes, but it wouldn't fukking pollute and it'd ultimately be cheaper for them.


[20-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like yes, having running water means higher maintenance costs than getting water delivered


[20-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's still fukking cheaper


[20-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and much better for society.


[20-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
BuT tHaT's SoCiAlIsM


[20-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
things being good for society = socialism


[20-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
so never do anything good for society, you dirty commie


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SPYdG7pEno

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Matt O'Malley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SPYdG7pEno
The Simpsons visit Boston (and use our sunscreen dispensers)
Marge Simpson uses one of Boston's free sunscreen dispensers.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_SPYdG7pEno/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately nuclear is the very very cheap and somewhat dirty centralized option


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
high start-up costs


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem is it requires a huge upfront cost to build and make safe.


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
no go for the neoliberals


[20-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once it's actually there, it's amazing


[20-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it pays for itself in less than a year


[20-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in theory you can do breeder reactors and like get tons and tons of fuel


[20-Oct-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that doesn't make nuclear weapons.


[20-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Deleted User#0000
i feel like with a bit more research into nuclear power we could develop small and safe reactors


[20-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
that also produce good power


[20-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Deleted User#0000
but that'll never happen sadly


[20-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
costs too much money to finish up research in those, so it's a no-go for both conservatives and neoliberals


[20-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
(conservatives don't like funding R&D into new things)


[20-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breeder reactors were all the rage for like 2 years in the 50s


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
neocons ugh


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
`things being good for society = socialism`


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it turned out uranium is relatively plentiful, especially in the US


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so piles of nuclear weapons we made.


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
cold war was a huge waste of resources on both sides


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Deleted User#0000
human and material


[20-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If nuclear weapons didn't exist, nuclear power would likely be something invented in the 80s


[20-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least, as far as commercial reactors.


[20-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
actually yeah. I've been on and off watching a history channel host, TIK. He's pretty good at historical detail, but it really feels like sometimes, he gets bored, takes copious amounts of not medicine, the walls close in on him and whisper of socialist conspiracy. He defines any country with any amount of 'socialistic' policies (any policies at all) as socialist.


[20-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anxiety pills reduce racism.


[20-Oct-19 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
which goes into stark constrast to how he normally behaves. I.e. rational.


[20-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Opponent#3498
he's not racist (he's from UK, with retail background, he hates everyone equally). But he's the first guy that for me comes to mind on the topic of socialism, how it doesn't work and how free market is humanity's salvation. Somehow.


[20-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
(listening to him is a blast though, do recommend)


[20-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfZz8F37oSJ2rtcEJHM2kCg)


[20-Oct-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
wth


[20-Oct-19 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
solar is not a scam


[20-Oct-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, I'm aware that the current method of producing efficient solar panels uses a high fixed cost carbon "investment" into making them, and it shouldn't come as a surprise that you do have to actually clean the dust off them at some point


[20-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
but the former point isn't relevant, because once a solar facility bootstraps, it can generate _everything it needs to keep making them with no net emissions_


[20-Oct-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the argument is basically https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/634143997048389653/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa.png

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[20-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
that moment when a part of comic makes more sense than the entirety of it.


[20-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
people also bitch about batteries


[20-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm aware that they suck and buying them empowers China


[20-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't have to use lithium batteries you know


[20-Oct-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the lowest cost, highest capacity, and most efficient batteries ever are not lithium batteries


[20-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they're water that is pumped into an elevated reservoir


[20-Oct-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since we're on the subject a very good conversation related to climate strategy https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/358-world-on-a-wire-feat-naomi-klein-101419

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https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/358-world-on-a-wire-feat-naomi-klein-101419
358 - World on a Wire feat. Naomi Klein (10/14/19)
We're joined by author Naomi Klein to discuss climate change, a green new deal and what it must include, and new developments in responses to ecological crisis from both the right and the left.

Check
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[20-Oct-19 05:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
With the prophet of bad news herself


[20-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the act of pumping into the reservoir charges the battery; reversing the direction and allowing the reservoir to drain draws power from it


[20-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI

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Tom Scott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx_bJgIFhI
Britain's Largest Battery Is Actually A Lake
Dinorwig Power Station, otherwise known as Electric Mountain, is a pumped-storage hydro station in Llanberis, Wales. And yes: it's Britain's largest battery....
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6Jx_bJgIFhI/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Oct-19 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
solar and related technologies are not a scam and I'm getting tired of all the grief people express to me about it


[20-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dw it's a reservoir that dumps water from a lake at the top to a lake at the bottom during the day to generate power, and then pumps it all back up at night with excess power no one's using


[20-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's because hating on clean energy is big business


[20-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
this kind of battery technology is not as uncommon as it's made out to be, it's actually quite popular especially in underdeveloped regions


[20-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also the mentality of "too good to be true", regardless of what it is


[20-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People are skeptical of things that don't suck


[20-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because everything sucks


[20-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it turns out that for the most part, solar doesn't suck


[20-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
there are caveats (you are advised to live where it is frequently sunny, and you have to clean the panels when they get dirty)


[20-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but other than that I'm not sure what the beef is


[20-Oct-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
onshore wind sucks a good deal more because you have to have farms of generators and there's a very high fixed material cost and it has to be windy a lot to make sense


[20-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/HQK7lG9

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The Generals are Mad Bro
https://i.imgur.com/6VqqA4R.gif


[20-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump’s dotage combined with the total moral and mental vacuum which is the space between his ears has finally got the better of the generals. General McRaven (of capturing Bin Laden fame) threw unprecedented shade at Trump accusing him of spreading “frustration, humiliation, anger and fear” through the armed forces and of championing “despots and strongmen” while abandoning US allies. The four-star admiral called for Trump to either shape up or ship out of the White House. Thems fighting words.


[20-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
so the military would throw out trump if he attempts to become president for life, that's nice to know


[20-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
> “If this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office – Republican, Democrat or independent – the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.”


[20-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
> “It’s hard to imagine how one could, in a single stroke, re-enable Isis, elevate Iran, allow Vladimir Putin the puppet master to continue his upward trajectory and simultaneously put war criminal chemical-weapon user Bashar al-Assad in the driving seat in Syria.”


[20-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html

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By William H. McRaven
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html
Opinion | Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President
If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/17/opinion/17mcravenWeb/17mcravenWeb-facebookJumbo.jpg


[20-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
mcraven said the first quote


[20-Oct-19 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
:caw:

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[20-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
caw

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[20-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that fear of socialism is racist


[20-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that fear is the driving force of conservative politics.


[20-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/19/politics/trump-property-no-longer-considered-for-g7-summit/index.html

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Trump reverses course and says his Florida resort won't be used fo...
President Donald Trump on Saturday night abruptly reversed course and announced next year's G7 economic summit of world powers will not be held at Trump National in Doral, Florida, after facing bipartisan backlash.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191018141549-trump-dallas-rally-fact-check-nr-vpx-00000000-super-tease.jpg


[20-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they are all about is fear that a change will hurt them.


[20-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Irrational fears.


[20-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Countries become more conservative after shokking events.


[20-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably had a 3 hours presentation with 5 lawyers showing him powerpoint slides of why this was a Bad Idea


[20-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you get otherwise-rational people who suddenly throw logic out the window when they start sweating over the idea of LE SOCIALIST coming in and disrupting something with new ideas.


[20-Oct-19 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/ZvSQ3Cc8Umg

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Real Time with Bill Maher
https://youtu.be/ZvSQ3Cc8Umg
New Rule: Prickstarter | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Subscribe to the Real Time YouTube: http://itsh.bo/10r5A1B In his editorial New Rule, Bill makes Donald Trump an offer he can't refuse. Connect with Real Tim...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZvSQ3Cc8Umg/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
my mom thinks it's ok that trump can host G7 at one of his resorts because it's cheaper for the government


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's blatantly in violation of emoluments


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
is she aware of that


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It won't be, he will charge the gov't a ton of money


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
she doesn't care


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and approve the charge because he is in control of it.


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
she thinks that if obama or another democrat tried to do the same, everyone would dismiss it


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives used to whine about Obama going golfing once a month


[20-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump does it once a week


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
at greater expense every time


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure he does it multiple times a week


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why people golf, it doesn't look fun


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about having fun


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about showing that you are wealthy.


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav a guy who carries your golf clubs for you.


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like a slave.


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's funner ways to show that you're wealthy


[20-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get to talk about random shit while you swing a club and enjoy GREEN GRASS that no poor person can walk on.


[20-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, not about fun.


[20-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about telling the poor they should go die in a fire.


[20-Oct-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
golfing is not only not fun, it's actively boring and incredibly destructive


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire point.


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the resources (labor, chemical, and physical) that go into maintaining a golf course would be better spent on _literally anything else_


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroy the environment, make it look good, waste tons of money.


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DID YOU KNOW: The reasons some areas have so many golf courses is the US military bought the land to keep in reserve for training, munitions testing, and air fields


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the rich love it.


[20-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then realized they didn't need it and turned into golf courses


[20-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To avoid it getting infrastructure they'd have to demolish in the event they suddenly needed it again


[20-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0A4EBBx8nk&list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG&index=17

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TimeGhost History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0A4EBBx8nk&list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG&index=17
Smashing China to Pieces, the Background | Between 2 Wars | 1925 P...
The 19th century throws all kinds of terror and unfortune on China, which not long before was the most powerful nation in the world. While many other Western...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V0A4EBBx8nk/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel this is relevant to the certain topic that constantly comes up here.


[20-Oct-19 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not really. The CCP is in tighter control of China than the ailing Qing were in the interwar years or ever were in the century prior. If anything, present Chinese politics is proof to the line from the seventies which was the Washington line with China until the Bush years: western capital will liberalize the Chinese government. But this should have been disproven with Tiannamen Square.


[20-Oct-19 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
We would have taken a more hostile stance on China during the Bush presidency, but then 9/11 happened and China became an ally of opportunity against the vaguely defined "extremism" the War on Terror is against.


[20-Oct-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they clearly have no objection to genociding muslims


[20-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
relevant, as in, historical perspective.


[20-Oct-19 05:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Uyghurs aren't the only Muslims in China. But the Hui are concerned.


[20-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
not that it's in any way similar.


[20-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
also, obviously, this is merely a brief overview.


[20-Oct-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent it's relevant in the way Jingoistic fantasies are relevant. "Look, China can be broken! Let's do it again!"


[20-Oct-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
But this is the exact line that the CCP is ready for. It's been their policy to suspect it from the west since Xiaoping


[20-Oct-19 05:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tibet doesn't make it any better either.


[20-Oct-19 05:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
But because confrontation will spell annihilation, it's been a game if indirect action.


[20-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Opponent#3498
mhhh in the age of nuclear weapons military action would not work, nor would any large-scale covert actions in the age of information out the ass.


[20-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Opponent#3498
so I disagree that this can foster any kind of those fantasies.


[20-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Opponent#3498
to me, this is a first step on the road of 'how the hell did we come here?'


[20-Oct-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and what the hell do we do now?


[20-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the question much more difficult to answer.


[20-Oct-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well then don't sit around with videos from literally whose on YouTube. Try a book instead. https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Country-Middle-Kingdom-America/dp/0805092501


[20-Oct-19 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
say 'thank you Jesus' you're not the one making the call.


[20-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Opponent#3498
um.


[20-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Opponent#3498
'from literally whose'?


[20-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
"literally who"


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so, who's. As in, random no-names.


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
well, no, I think he meany the plural of "literally who"


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
literally whos


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[20-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
plural of who is whos


[20-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd think the entirety of 'literally who' is supposed to be pluralised here. Well, w'e, I got the idea.


[20-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and as for 'Look, China can be broken'... Well. By whom? US is concerned only with it's political crisis, which will last a while. Europe is concerned by fuck all it would seem. Middle east is in perpetual war and/or lining their pockets. There's no even remote reason to entertain such fantasies, even before all the practical considerations.


[20-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
best hope is contain them somehow and hope they fall apart on their own


[20-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Opponent#3498
oh and Russia's buddy buddy with them, cause, well, China doesn't need to go to war to crush them if they wanted to.


[20-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Opponent#3498
simply mandate like a million people to move to Russia. Boom, the entirety of south-eastern Russia is chinese land now.


[20-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
this video was curious to me because of one simple thought.


[20-Oct-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
now the roles are entirely reversed from how they once were.


[20-Oct-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
and we get to experience it first-hand :3


[20-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0AIWvhauIo

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[20-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dw police come in and arrest army veteran dude who disarmed an angry drunk guy with a gun


[20-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
suprised they didn't simply shoot him


[20-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
everyone involved was white, so no one was getting summarily executed


[20-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
fair enough


[20-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
but apparently the angry drunk guy got caught with drugs after driving drunk, on top of having the gun


[20-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
he was on felony probation, but for some reason, his probation didn't exclude him from having the gun that night


[20-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Opponent#3498
the biggest oof.


[20-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
because the police didn't check a box


[20-Oct-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Awesome


[20-Oct-19 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk oh yeah, and another thing. This brief overview is an easy way to show things that will NOT work. Cause, you know, China knows it's history better than anyone. At least people who matter do. And their leadership is many things, but incompetent they are not. These are all the things, like you noted yourself, that specifically would not work and could or would be adapted for their own use.


[20-Oct-19 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Oct-19 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
actual article <https://www.tweaktown.com/news/68072/blizzard-bans-forum-members-1000-years-over-discussing-hong-kong/index.html>


[20-Oct-19 08:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The CCP only care for power and prosperity, its what happens when you put party membership above the rule of law.


[20-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EVE Online isn't THAT bad, sheesh


[20-Oct-19 08:46 AM] Midknight#9798
well, they do call it spreadsheet simulator in space for a reason, Teaspoon


[20-Oct-19 08:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/18/generals-donald-trump-military-criticism

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[20-Oct-19 08:53 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump once again shows he is not a politician and we seriously need a politician


[20-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's fitting that trump is being brought down by his blatant betrayal of US allies


[20-Oct-19 09:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Oct-19 09:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/19/trump-says-his-doral-resort-will-no-longer-host-g7-summit-000292

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[20-Oct-19 10:01 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump finally understand that holding the Summit at his floundering property is a bad move


[20-Oct-19 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Oct-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
"I believe in the right of collective bargaining by labor without any interference and full protection of that obvious right."


[20-Oct-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
"I belive in minimum standards for wages and maximum standards for hours, and I believe that such standards should constantly improve."


[20-Oct-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
> So let's ignore that he sounds a bit like Bernie for a second here. Did you see what he just said? He just went straight down the line with policy ideas. One brief mention of his opponent, that's it, the rest is all "here's what I stand for" and it's actual policy material, not meaningless garbage like "American values". And it's not dumbed down.


[20-Oct-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
this should be legally enforced imo


[20-Oct-19 10:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Republicans lost the meaning of their roots after the political shift of the late 1960s,


[20-Oct-19 11:51 AM] ononim#8141
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Chile's capital in state of emergency amid unrest
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[20-Oct-19 11:52 AM] ononim#8141
>emergency in Santiago and military in the streets


[20-Oct-19 11:59 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/_SE0KJ1N_/status/1185335209505492993

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[20-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
`Trump finally understand that holding the Summit at his floundering property is a bad move`


[20-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't be suprised if half the white house got on their knees and begged simultaneously.


[20-Oct-19 02:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
only half?


[20-Oct-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m surprised the white house itself hasn;t buckled and collapsed outof sheer force of cringe


[20-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only people that survive there a full year are either incapable of shame or see themselves as too duty-bound to the _office_ of the president to makes things "worse"


[20-Oct-19 03:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just scroll through the stats on 45chaos.com and tell me how this *isn't* evidence of a revolving door


[20-Oct-19 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if there are even 5,000 people in Washington I'd count as a "high-level government official" but that's the minimum you'd need for back-of-the-napkin math to achieve a turnover that's less than 8%


[20-Oct-19 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If this were an actual business, as Trump apparently is trying to run the government, most people would look at those numbers and declare it failing and mismanaged


[20-Oct-19 03:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know the word "unprecedented" gets thrown around a lot, but there has *never* been a presidency with this many people getting fired, arrested, or resigning (under pressure or otherwise)


[20-Oct-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/358ccfc5810a4d5ca189eac3ef48da20

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GOP congressman weighing impeachment won't seek new term
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[20-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[20-Oct-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/turkey-and-russia-to-discuss-removal-of-kurdish-militia-from-syrian-towns-idUSKBN1WZ03U

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[20-Oct-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[20-Oct-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Oct-19 06:05 PM] ononim#8141
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[20-Oct-19 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
Chile


[20-Oct-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this because they started charging bus fare


[20-Oct-19 06:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
They raised the fare and protests happened and it's begun broadening more and more.


[20-Oct-19 06:24 PM] ononim#8141
fourth time in the year


[20-Oct-19 06:24 PM] ononim#8141
with the rate of it making people who work minimal wage and around it pay very large portion of their wages for it, a third or a quarter


[20-Oct-19 06:25 PM] ononim#8141
also iirc it started as nonviolent protest with people refusing to pay for fare


[20-Oct-19 06:25 PM] ononim#8141
but then a cop shot someone (wow, what a surprise)


[20-Oct-19 06:28 PM] ononim#8141
there's a twitter thread I linked a bit up in the channel


[20-Oct-19 06:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/radar_cl/status/1185742099830001665

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[20-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Meanwhile in Fire Emblem https://nintendosoup.com/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-becomes-no-1-bestselling-wii-u-game-on-amazon-japan-after-censorship-fiasco/

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[20-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I really gotta wonder WTF kinda version of Mulan is it if HK came up xD


[20-Oct-19 08:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/sailorsocialist/status/1185623856242970625?s=09

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A friend of mine in Lebanon got some powerful footage of protests happening in Beirut the last couple days. Footage below is from 10/18/2019 by Tariq Keblaoui https://t.co/Y2hhKP7j2X
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[20-Oct-19 08:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614316817644650506/635500483905323024/cringe.mp4

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[20-Oct-19 08:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This pains me


[20-Oct-19 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Oct-19 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Northern Syria, a Russian in former US military base

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[20-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those troops Trump was "bringing back home"


[20-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Got sent to Iraq


[20-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[20-Oct-19 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/20/facebook-isnt-free-speech-its-algorithmic-amplification-optimized-for-outrage/

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[20-Oct-19 08:59 PM] byte[]#2610
"Justin Trudeau, 2001, colorized" https://i.redd.it/hbg452evhnt31.jpg

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[20-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
so, news feed is evil. Gotcha.


[20-Oct-19 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Indeed


[20-Oct-19 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
More like rigged for greater profit and nothing else. If you interact with it more over some subjects, it'll give you more of that, because it produced profit. Once again, profit-motive doesn't prove to be the best of all things.


[20-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466622-mulvaney-seeks-to-correct-quid-pro-quo-remarks-in-withering-interview

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[20-Oct-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Undermining democracy to own the libs 🤠 
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[20-Oct-19 09:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1185996828665360384?s=21

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"Adam Schiff ought to be embarrassed by the kangaroo court that he's running."

The Democrats aren't playing by the rules with their impeachment scam! https://t.co/fJT5QiWuYF
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[20-Oct-19 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...except that they are following the rules. The rules Republicans made up last time around.


[20-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466622-mulvaney-seeks-to-correct-quid-pro-quo-remarks-in-withering-interview

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White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney insisted he never said the Trump administration expected a quid pro quo between U.S.
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[20-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy just needs to stop


[20-Oct-19 09:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the note of Mulvaney, it's remarkable that his defense of the president pre- and especially post-Doral selection and retraction is the very reason why the emoluments clause exists in the first place


[20-Oct-19 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's easy enough to dismiss Mulvaney as being an idiot except that Trump turned around and said the same thing, but clearer, in a tweet


[20-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Trump campaign is selling t-shirts based on something he said confirming qpq


[20-Oct-19 09:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mulvaney: Trump "still considers himself to be in the hospitality business and he saw an opportunity."


[20-Oct-19 09:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump: https://i.redd.it/vtj5i3pb8pt31.png

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[20-Oct-19 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah mmhmm that's real divested, that is


[20-Oct-19 09:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh and in Mueller report news because that *still* isn't over, it turns out those two redacted names that shouldn't have been because they didn't testify for a grand jury? Don McGahn and Trump Jr. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6502865/Doj-Mueller-20191020.pdf


[20-Oct-19 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't that under NEP tho


[20-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah it was


[20-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
`rigged for greater profit and nothing else`


[20-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's just that reading stuff like this, there's no pleasing people. No matter what algorithms anyone would use, with any amount of info available at any one time (realistically 99% stop at top 10 of whatever they're looking at), there will be someone pissing and moaning about it.


[20-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
all platforms design their systems to achive their goals. You want Google's 'censoring for the sake of humanity', or chinese 'censoring for the sake of Party (and humanity, as soon as the Party rules over them all)', be my guest. Pure 'for profit', being fucking neutral, is a blessing these days.


[20-Oct-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk


[20-Oct-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking tbh I feel like Stalin's Ampir would go well with the types who unironically make arguments like this


[20-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialist realism looks cool


[20-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, they adored this style.


[20-Oct-19 09:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to look at the topic simply: then sure. The reality of the matter is the profit motive isn't simple in and of itself. Were Google just a company with a reach in North America and Europe there may not be an issue. But there's been strong cases built against Google for the practical censoring of LGBT civil rights content by kicking it down the ladder or even not monetizing it because they abide by the market rules and laws of countries with strong anti-LGBT laws  @Opponent.  Likewise Google really favors anti-climate science.


[20-Oct-19 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
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[20-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could cut the Gordian knot with this and just break up Google


[20-Oct-19 09:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
There is the principle idea of Chomsky's Manufactured Consent thesis where companies in charge of information tend to bias coverage towards things generally pro-them. He uses for his notion the in-equality of coverage between the genocides in Cambodia and Indonesia around the same time. Where one government (Cambodia) was given more weight as evil for killing as many people as a government with US support (Indonesia) despite both racking up equivelant body counts. American media rarely ever spoke of it except a few odd mentions as a "thing over there".


[20-Oct-19 09:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was a bit more covered in Australia, but the Aussies were just as involved. I think so much so they hold secret trials to lock up people who talk about East Timor.


[20-Oct-19 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Soviet Neo-Classism.


[20-Oct-19 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
What is this Stalinist propaganda


[20-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure where you were going with it, although yes, not unexpected of US-backed country to get scot-free with anything so long as they're useful, especially in an era of state-influenced/controlled media. I did not disagree, political/ideological bias is unfortunate yet largely unavoidable. This was my point - given this alternative, I'd much rather take straight monetary profit as a motive. The platform following this strategy becomes a tool, not an actor, which is, imo, how it should be.


[20-Oct-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I'm pointing out that straight profit motive isn't as simple as it seems, since it inter-twines with a wide array of issues or even private alliances unknown to us. Google censors LGBT content and even strips away the wages of LGBT content creators while pretending to be LGBT friendly during the requisite pride month, but that's because they're kowtowing to the profit motive of accessing the Pakistan, Chinese, or African markets. At the same time, they bias towards anti-climate science, giving money to them and even giving more space to them https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/google-discover-climate-change-denial

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[20-Oct-19 09:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
The issue is that the feeds aren't hardly as democratic as they should be or sound be, since weight is given far more to what will earn them money as opposed to nurturing anything like a moderately informed voter base.


[20-Oct-19 09:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which is all together at the heart of the concentration of media power issue with less and less companies controlling more and more of the media we consume.


[20-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
ok, misunderstood you then.


[20-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Opponent#3498
in the specific issue described in this article I can imagine at least one alternative answer as to why Google might not be to blame. Tags. Tags that are neutral, and not 'denialism' like some guy frothes at the mouth about. Them being neutral means you have equal chance to get 'yes' and 'no' for any given topic with polarised opinions.


[20-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I can absolutely believe the 8 people the author talked to on /pol all have similar experiences. The silent majority who has none of the issues or don't care are, as usual, silent.


[20-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
demonetisation on youtube is more interesting. It demonetises a wide variety of left-wing and right-wing content because they aren't advertise-friendly. It's probably far from neutral, but their actual angle (past the obvious) is pretty hard to gauge there, at least for me.


[20-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Opponent#3498
heh, very much off-topic, but it feels like # support is # politics with less Trump xD


[20-Oct-19 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
does it?


[20-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I randomly clicked on the tab, and out of curiosity started reading from my own posts. Pony nazis, health care, bisexual erasure, and so on so forth.


[20-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not saying that as a bad thing, either. If ~~people~~ ponies care, they deserve the right to express their views, trying to avoid drama by denying that only brings more drama


[20-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
just found it peculiar.


[20-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure if the "bi erasure" thing really was accurate


[20-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it was mostly just people editing an image with a political stance to remove the political stance


[20-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
which I disagree with


[20-Oct-19 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I suppose in that case it actually was a political argument


[20-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't deny though that bi erasure is a serious problem among progressives


[20-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
perhaps to the surprise of many, most people are not rigidly one sexuality


[20-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
nor even in one location on the kinsey scale, or one location on any popular vector model, or any fixed position on the KSOG


[20-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
way I see it, LGBTQ works well-ish because it's a 'no' to some kind of 'yes'. It's easier to understand, to accept or deny, to rally behind either side.


[20-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
bi is this centrist position with none of these advantages, from philosophical pov. It's kinda like communism vs capitalism.


[20-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
make it binary, it works. In slogans. Not so much in reality. But what DOES work is harder to sell, it doesn't fly nearly as well.


[20-Oct-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
positions like this are surprisingly popular for some reason

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[20-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, and then there's this, rabid partizan fanaticism.


[20-Oct-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
who you are should have no bearing on what your rights are


[20-Oct-19 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
or what you're allowed to advocate for


[20-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they're bisexual any relationship they're in is a bisexual one


[20-Oct-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't matter what it is, people are allowed to be in relationships with whoever they want to be


[20-Oct-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
that is the _POINT_ of this movement

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[20-Oct-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
don't get caught up in the nomenclature, it's a distraction from what we're supposed to be fighting for


[20-Oct-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like they just want an lgt minus the b


[20-Oct-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
sectarianism is one hell of a drug


[20-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people just want lg really


[20-Oct-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
some people just want L


[20-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And more l as one and g as one


[20-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really some just seem to want only their specific approach to their sexuality to be part of a movement


[20-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know why I really am giving input here, I'm straight


[20-Oct-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
you're not forbidden to


[20-Oct-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm bi but i dont really talk about it much with people


[20-Oct-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
don't construe this as a thing that only gay people are allowed to fight for or whatever


[20-Oct-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's another thing that pisses me off about pride: excluding straight people from helping to advance the movement


[20-Oct-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is super annoying


[20-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also why I don't publicly talk about abortion


[20-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not my space to


[20-Oct-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
you have every right to voice your opinion about abortion


[20-Oct-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really have a huge opinion on abortion, my stance is basically it;s your body, you do what you feel you need to :shrugpony:


[20-Oct-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
saying you think it's "not your place" to advocate for women's bodily autonomy is such a terrible position


[20-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Beyond saying that I do I don't need to


[20-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of being a conservative is about accepting some given change, but rejecting the fundamental concept behind it.


[20-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, you can be gay, but you hav to only be gay, these distinctions still matter!


[20-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
To accept bisexuality is to accept the fundamental concept that the distinctions don't matter, and thus to admit the movement was right to begin with.

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[20-Oct-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
hm


[20-Oct-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
so is bi erasure necessarily conservative?


[20-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related I so remember someone who was bi getting upset the list of famous bi people was 90% porn stars


[20-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kind of makes a point


[20-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, the entire point of the erasure is to restrict the conditions of progress.


[20-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is a reactionary move.


[20-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are there so many reactionaries in the brony and furry fandoms


[20-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The show is attractive at first glance to pro-monarchy people.


[20-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It features an enlightened monarchy without even the normal succession to replace the rulers.


[20-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
With no apparent legal system, the world governed by a shared culture.


[20-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also features extremely blakk and white morality that fits a simplified worldview.


[20-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is only the details of what that shared culture is, and many eps' aesops, that run counter.


[20-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol these idiots hated the finale showing all races living together in peace


[20-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ignoring the fact that the show was total white man's burden with them


[20-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like you got the entire world to bend to your culture and abandon their own, what's it matter they're a griffon


[20-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thorax, Ember, and Rutherford are all puppets


[20-Oct-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ponies got everyone reading their books about friendship and eating Hayburgers


[21-Oct-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airline-boeing/boeing-expresses-regret-over-ex-pilots-messages-on-737-max-software-idUSKBN1WZ0MA?il=0

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[21-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well, ponies promote cooperation, not so much hayburgers. In a world with many distinct sapients conflicts and especially wars are that much worse, and at the same time their cooperation that much more beneficial. I would like to see more alicorn-equivalents for other races though.


[21-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, it's about race.


[21-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
`messages from November 2016` `discovered some months ago`


[21-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho more than that


[21-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
the fuck


[21-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about values that are not the sharing is caring stuff


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
what the hell kinda organisation is this?


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, Yaks smash


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Griffons get profit


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ponies do other things


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of befriending someone who has ANY different values AT ALL upsets conservatives.


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically traditions


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of befriending people with different holidays


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
different heros


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
different *words*


[21-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
utterly upsetting.


[21-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it truly is about race and being racist


[21-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
To a conservative, the show lost its way when it went from spreading core pony values to other cultures, to allowing them to come and stay in pony schools.


[21-Oct-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even different *food*


[21-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't the racists see the new dragons/griffons/yaks as basically ponies in a different body


[21-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
To a conservative, the endgame is to make griffons eat pony food


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and cut their claws off


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well dragons and changelings can


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes but the point is to MAKE THEM


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No gems or love ever, hay only


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This idea of retaining any differences is what conservatives hate.


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[21-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must submit to Hearth's Warming


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must come use our court system


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh God the comic that introduced a fourth tribe


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you must abandon the way you hatch your eggs


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean that kills you? Good.


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fourth tribe?


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want the reverse Borg


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of finding differences to use to improve yourself


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
you destroy them in others


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stupid retcon where cannibal ponies weren't a part of Hearths Warming or something


[21-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
spreading what you are only.


[21-Oct-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they want cybermen, not borg


[21-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly I bet there are people who think Coloratura's random patriotic song she wrote is the Equestrian national anthem


[21-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[21-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want Cybermen.


[21-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does Equestria *hav* a national anthem?


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/VbNT91JQED4

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[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh lord


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, I talked extensively with BronyHeresy about how he sees FiM


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the only one that fits, and Hearthswarming is their founding myth


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And its world and lore


[21-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a staunch conservative


[21-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
he believes that marriage should be a man, a woman, and a church


[21-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Equestria The Land I Love makes no sense as an anthem


[21-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though it does end like shit like the US national anthem


[21-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you end a song in a question


[21-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
To him, Equestria is a utopia *moreso* than it is from our perspectives.


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always liked This Land is Your Land as a better national anthem


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, because Equestria has a relatively uninvolved gov't


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if you're being racist


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can just do it


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the way its gov't works is leading by example


[21-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without actual rules


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How did Twilight manage to keep it together for two decades plus


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nepotism.


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a couple months before the finale she was freaking out about a trivia contest


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Name your brother your official ambassador


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[21-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, it's the worst trivia contest I've ever seen


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho if twitter is any indication, trivia contests in pubs are horrid affairs only for the most drunk individuals


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>He has that position for two plus decades too and counting


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I went to them and it sucked because someone on my team cheated


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We won but I never went with that team again


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, "once more unto the breach" being a reference to *a battle that took place on an open field*


[21-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you lose points for arguing.


[21-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or "name the closest planet", and all of "Earth", "Venus", and "the Moon" are wrong.


[21-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly a lot of the fun of trivia is naming your team something awkward for the announcer to say


[21-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Earth is the logically correct answer, Venus is the correct one if you use the IAC definition and exclude Earth, The Moon is correct if you use a newer but unofficial planet definition instead...Mars is further out than Venus almost all the time)


[21-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One team at a trivia night I went to was called "No country for brown children"


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was during the cage stuff so


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equestria to a conservative is a great utopia


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you can sabotage a factory and not get arrested


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you can racially exclude people and not get arrested


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you can murder children and not get arrested


[21-Oct-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what?


[21-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everywhere you go, everyone speaks the same language and doesn't care about politics.


[21-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just go about doing stupid shit


[21-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) remember, not only was Cozy effectively summarily executed, but Zecora was presumed to be eating Apple Bloom


[21-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and nobody called the cops


[21-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about that


[21-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only time we see evidence of law enforcement is when the princess' personal stuff is involved.


[21-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone steals her phoenix, there's actual enforcement


[21-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
somepony is presumed to be murdering children? WELP THIS AIN'T A PROBLEM TO GET THE GOV'T INVOLVED IN


[21-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's definitely what gun owners want


[21-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you go out and shoot blakk people with impunity based on suspicion


[21-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some filthy blakk person stole your little sister, he might be rapin' her! Let's go shootin'!


[21-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equestria's a racist's paradise, @Itsthinking


[21-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[21-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Celestia did listen to a minoritys advice on how to handle a child criminal


[21-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
She opposed the natural order, no conservative would argue for her.


[21-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Equestria embodies the idea of cohesion by culture and community ousting


[21-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
everybody thinks about the same, and foreigners get shat on


[21-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how Gilda was made to ragequit by her own friend betraying her?


[21-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Spike is tolerable because he basically acts like a pony.


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should further note


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
given what we see ponies get away with


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the lakk of law enforcement in general


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's pretty unlikely they hav a strict AoC law


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
insert libertarian memes here.


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean in later seasons it's basically pony America


[21-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even so


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
LD had Scoots about to like, die doing a dangerous stunt


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
no paperwork


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
no law enforcement


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing.


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Something I wish the show had done that the comics hinted at


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AJ becoming mayor


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can put a kid thru nearly blowing up going over a deadly obstacle course


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
what *can't* you do when a kid says yes?


[21-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
AJ as mayor would ruin Ponyville I suspect.


[21-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And further, IMMORTAL MONARCHY


[21-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like you don't even get the normal civil wars a monarchy usually has.


[21-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equestria at first blush is a conservative's wet dream.


[21-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
White man's burden unified culture with immortal monarchy and practically no regulation or law enforcement.


[21-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as you don't challenge the monarchy, no punishment ever.


[21-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you do challenge the monarchy, you get put in jail for life with no trial even as a child.


[21-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or worse.


[21-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
No concept of human rights


[21-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
or children having special rights


[21-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
Cozy is... anything but a child, by any definition except strictly physical.


[21-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter, Equestria has no protections for children.


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
not mental, not psychological, not moral, not anything.


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not a pony.


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
she's not a threat to the monarchy.


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
she's a threat potentially to the planet.


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being a threat


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about being a challenge


[21-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just saying Celestia shouldn't wear that crown would get you some kind of punishment.


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the point.


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
A monarchist view isn't about what's right


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about keeping the monarchy in charge.


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And stopping all challenges to their rule.


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the endgame of conservatism.


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Opponent#3498
are we're talking about ACTUAL show or about muddled perceptions thereof?


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual show


[21-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm kinda confused at this point


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget all fanon, don't bother with headcanons, just use eps as evidence


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
cause in actaul show Cozy did something that potentially spelled doom to ponies as a species.


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause the whole point of this is to talk about how conservatives view the show


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and why it's appealing to them


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't care about dooming ponies


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
and who knows what else if you consider all pony hybrids.


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They care about the monarchy being in charge


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
that's why I asked.


[21-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cozy's a challenge to the monarchy being in charge


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
she tries to rule Equestria, replacing it.


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
this is 'muddled perception of a show', not the show.


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing muddled about it


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
*eyeroll*


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a lens to view the episodes


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lens that desires for ALL TOBE THE SAME UNDER THE KING


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
there are facts and there are perceptions.


[21-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I'm saying is the facts of the episodes


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
`Conservatives don't care about dooming ponies` (replace ponies with humans because that's what they are for US citizens right?)


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally are viewed favorably by conservatives watching the show.


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes, conservatives don't care about dooming humanity, in and of itself.


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, in concept. Somewhere down the line.


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as the monarchy is in charge and the right people are in it, etc.


[21-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
bet they'd care about someone pressing the LAUNCH button right before them.


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what was happening.


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
not some long-term climate change-ish thing you can ignore for the time being


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
arguing that it's viewed in any different way is simply ignoring facts.


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just about the *right people* being in charge


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
there ARE no right people. Not in this scenario.


[21-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you aren't arguing with a conservative lens.


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
neither are you presenting it *shrug*


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals want the bombs not to drop


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want the bombs to drop on certain people


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the key difference between the two viewpoints.


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservative lens see's a nuke and their thought is protect the royalty of the nation get thme to a shelter and sacrifice theunworthy to protect theking from the bomb


[21-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
and Cozy wants the bombs to drop on _everyone_


[21-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives only care about Cozy because she put the monarchs in chains and would drop the bombs on le chosen ponies


[21-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as they are concerned, Cozy could've merely imprisoned the monarchs and done nothing else


[21-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
she would still deserve death.


[21-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I get that SOME people can be this daft.


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
M8 they're like 30% of the US population.


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
but there are many more people that I'd consider monarchists that aren't THIS ADEPT at self-delusion.


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
30% of US population are monarchists


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
did I read that right?


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a nutshell, yes.


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
try to be objective at least. Don't let out your inner fanatic too often.


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservative monarchists, yes


[21-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't necessarily want a specific king as an endgoal, they just want some form of feudal system created


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they hav strong opinions about who should be in charge of it.


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in terms of race and wealth and religion.


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
there's already one. Hereditary wealth is a pretty good 'noble' measure.  And it's not going away, so not sure what's to 'want' there.


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals threaten hereditary wealth


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
with reforms and taxes


[21-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't about pushing their endgame


[21-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're about rejecting the liberal one.


[21-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they miss the monarchy


[21-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
smh it's hard to tell with you facts from fantasies from propaganda.


[21-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equestria is ideal because it has none of what liberals created aside of some semblance of equality.


[21-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
I need to stop before I say something I truly regret.


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Neighsay completely throws a wrench into this


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
liberals good, conservatives evil racist monarchist bad.


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he has conservative rules that go against the normally ruleless society


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Requiring regulation to remain pure compromises the conservative utopia


[21-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it seem more "real"


[21-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Necessary evils etc.


[21-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then Neighsay gets his rules tossed out


[21-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The monarchy sides with reform and change


[21-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Against its own purity


[21-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And *that* is where people get mad


[21-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly the show is saying that racism should be fought outright.


[21-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That other cultures should be allowed to contaminate our own.


[21-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And *this* they consider "politics"


[21-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind the many moral lessons that dealt with rules and how to form them and follow them before this.


[21-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, @Itsthinking that's why you got so many people so angry about inclusionism in the show.


[21-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
you'd make a killing living in 50ies.


[21-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
on either side of Iron curtain


[21-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furries are another matter


[21-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that one just may be vocal minority stuff, nobody bats an eye about a furry saying "it's okay to be gay" in the midst of porn with three guys and a futa chopping each other's balls off.


[21-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then you get a rogue conservative who shamefully faps to such saying "you know, this is okay because it's fantasy, but in real life, one should neither chop their balls off, nor commit the sin of homosexuality"


[21-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that is gonna be a firestorm because even if everyone ignores the stupidity of the statement itself, they're probably gonna try to smear it in others' faces.


[21-Oct-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
political mouthpieces are consistently trashed on this site for good reason


[21-Oct-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
that was a wild ride


[21-Oct-19 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[21-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
woof


[21-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weird thing is that the original Mulan wasn't well-liked in China


[21-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hated Mushu, thought the story was inaccurate, etc.


[21-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm still wondering how on earth would HK topic even come up in the movie.


[21-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[21-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Abominable had a scene where the main character had a map on her wall that had a dotted line that corresponded to the claims China has in SE Asia

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[21-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of these random yeti/bigfoot movies in the past year and a half or so


[21-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's amazing to me that Chileans burn down everything over bus fares but how much the US will take


[21-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
unless it's set in 21th century I really don't see it.


[21-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
or am I reading it wrong, and the actors themselves have angered someone off-screen?


[21-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actors openly calling for the murder of HK protesters


[21-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
apparently that was mistranslation, although they still called for violence and 'beat them up'.


[21-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fine. More stupid in this world.


[21-Oct-19 05:26 AM] illumnious#7938
yes it's old as fuck but I love this part https://clips.twitch.tv/AbrasiveFairKeyboardTwitchRaid

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[21-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, I'd like to note in response to something said about the electoral college empowering farmers over "city urchins" and such


[21-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really, really not the point of it.


[21-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting rights originally were only with *landowning white men*


[21-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That didn't mean farmers


[21-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That meant the people owning the estates where farming happened.


[21-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people in the city who had a fair bit of wealth.


[21-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was entirely a class divide, not a rural/urban divide, with a bit of race thrown in for good measure.


[21-Oct-19 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
right now we have a rural/urban divide in politics that the EC is not helping


[21-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The role of the electoral college in this was to aggregate by state cause *muh antifederalism* and essentially made it so candidates needed to be popular in almost every state to stand a chance at winning.


[21-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was largely to appease the South which would otherwise be at a severe disadvantage.


[21-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it wasn't to giv the southern farmers more vote, only their elites.


[21-Oct-19 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
most of the shit wrong with this country is because of the south isn't it


[21-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes.


[21-Oct-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire first century of the country was basically about trying to politically appease the South while society happened around it.


[21-Oct-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
gamers rise up https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/dkorcd/uyghur_is_literally_a_banned_word_in_the_league/

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[21-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was seen as vital to make sacrifices that allowed the South to wield outsized politically power.


[21-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lest the Union be compromised.


[21-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We only made serious constitutional progress once they were a conquered enemy.


[21-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And only for a short time.


[21-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] I mean they're not merely partnered with the chinese. Riot are _owned_ by them. They don't get even a shadow of choice at all.


[21-Oct-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't play games so all of this is merely amusing to me


[21-Oct-19 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Oct-19 06:13 AM] illumnious#7938
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[21-Oct-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you really think about it, did the South deserve to be readmitted to the Union?


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No but the president at the time was a shitty southerner.


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So there was no other option.


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment failed to remove him.


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Radical Republicans had the right idea of only readmitting them as states destroyed of any semblance of pride


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out two thirds is a hard vote to get


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By one vote.


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The framers made a mistake on that.


[21-Oct-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is way too hard to remove shitty presidents.


[21-Oct-19 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's mostly absurd to me that once you get high enough you have no oversight


[21-Oct-19 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like with judges, everyone below a SCOTUS justice is under a disciplinary committee


[21-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Once you get appointed for life, nothing


[21-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment should be way more common.


[21-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress should've voted to remove Scalia.


[21-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I personally believe Bush and Obama should have been removed from office too


[21-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Clinton


[21-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep slapping the executive branch until they stop abusing power.


[21-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
What did Obama do to get removed? Clapper and the NSA nonsense?


[21-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd rather remove them for the slightest thing than give the executive an inch they are not meant to have


[21-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It prevents what we have now where the legislature is hardly independent


[21-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only parts Obama grabbed were NSA-related.


[21-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he was Bush 2.0


[21-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
now with EOs that do nothing.


[21-Oct-19 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EOs are functionally indistinguishable from rule by decree.


[21-Oct-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You completely misunderstand them.


[21-Oct-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idealized process in American gov't is as follows:


[21-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress writes a law saying that X must be done


[21-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that doing Y should be punished.


[21-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has no power to punish people


[21-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary does


[21-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the Judiciary can't just round people up


[21-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive comes in and figures out how to do X and find people doing Y


[21-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Congress may not hav specified every minute detail, and there may be certain circumstances to consider


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive *could* leave it up to each individual enforcement agent etc.


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's super messy


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the Judiciary can figure out what's what, but in the MEANTIME something has to be figured out on the fly


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's where EOs come in


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
An EO says what specific actions under Congress' law are to be taken.


[21-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the how.


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary can then rule whether that is within reason or not.


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should it be said to be unreasonable.


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The TROUBLE is that Congress has *quite often* written law much vaguer than it need be.


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just don't like the executive basically deciding policy


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the *intent* of giving the Executive more flexibility


[21-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then the legislature just molds around it


[21-Oct-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't the legislature molds around it


[21-Oct-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the legislature yields even rather large decisions


[21-Oct-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too much latitude in what's illegal, and what has to be done, leads to problems.


[21-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress often writes a law that just givs the Executive a blank chekk on things like immigration


[21-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a political tactic to avoid losing out with voters who don't like a specific thing


[21-Oct-19 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Congress is not supposed to do this


[21-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
that then allows the president to figure it all out


[21-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
EOs are necessary for the gov't to function


[21-Oct-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they shouldn't completely change the nature of what's what.


[21-Oct-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should just be some determination of thresholds and such.


[21-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They definitely shouldn't be doing things like deciding that trans people can't serve.


[21-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS got wise to this a bit with some Obama era regulatory nonsense


[21-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but seems to apply different standards for Trump


[21-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No accountability, and conservatives by their nature are corrupt etc.


[21-Oct-19 08:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://sf.eater.com/2019/10/18/20915751/california-roadkill-law-passed-eat-kill-salvage

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New California Law Lets Drivers Eat Their Own Roadkill
"This potentially translates into hundreds of thousands of pounds of healthy meat"
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[21-Oct-19 08:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this sounds more like something north/south carolina would pass...


[21-Oct-19 08:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/these-are-the-states-that-let-you-salvage-and-eat-roadkill/ speaking of which, my state already passed this

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These Are the States That Let You Salvage and Eat Roadkill
Did you know each of these 27 states allow you to salvage and eat roadkill you find on the side of the highway?
https://cdn0.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ftd-roadkill.jpg


[21-Oct-19 08:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Weird law,your car would be fucked after hitting even a deer


[21-Oct-19 08:13 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
unless your car has a bullbar


[21-Oct-19 08:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesn;t need to be killed by your car, it could be killed by someone elses car and you just find the corpse on the side of the road... which is probably not good for eating unless your stomach is built for eating that kind of stuff, we are not carrion animals...


[21-Oct-19 08:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/466463-new-jersey-school-district-proposes-banning-students-with-lunch-debt

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A New Jersey school district approved a policy earlier in the week that will bar students with lunch debt from attending activities
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/school_lunch_getty.jpg


[21-Oct-19 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a fucking society


[21-Oct-19 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[21-Oct-19 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I look at these stories and i'm just waiting for the PR disaster that comes when a school tells a poor family to go hunt for roadkill


[21-Oct-19 08:52 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:HR_CreepKek:


[21-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYUUjGUHKRs

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
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Trump vs. Trump: Kurds Edition | The Daily Show
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OYUUjGUHKRs/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Oct-19 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, he apparently even said it himself in his book. Shame is a weakness he never posessed.


[21-Oct-19 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
his narrative might change daily, and it would all be chill.


[21-Oct-19 02:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/466669-graham-says-hes-open-minded-on-supporting-impeachment-sure-i-mean-show-me

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Graham says he's open minded on supporting impeachment: 'Sure, I m...
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), one of President Trump's most vocal supporters on a variety of issues, said in a recent interview that he is open-minded about supporting impeachment.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_091119gn2_lead.jpg


[21-Oct-19 02:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not what you said 20 years ago


[21-Oct-19 02:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/
https://www.todayfm.com/news/sex-marriage-abortion-become-legal-northern-ireland-midnight-916681

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How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?

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Same Sex Marriage And Abortion To Become Legal In Northern Ireland...
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[21-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
did I understand this right, they threaten the government into working by passing laws like these? xD


[21-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
absolutely hillarious if so, I wish more people did it this way.


[21-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Canada election today


[21-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Go out and vote fellow hockey loveing horse fuckers :3


[21-Oct-19 03:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They stopped working after DUP made a carbon neutral energy scheme which could be profited from and had no cap. Lead to people using energy they did not need and money being wasted. The government came down for it to be investigated. The government would not come back because nationalist partys wanted gay rights and Irish language act.  Which DUP hate.


[21-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
fun.


[21-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
irish language act huh. Sounds like ukraininan bullshit we get. People stubbornly cling to isolationist policies like this, with might-well-be-dead languages.


[21-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
shouldve just accepted top 10 as world standard and forget about it.


[21-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rather. Every nation can have whatever they want, BUT also one of the top 10 or 8 (list shrinking down further with time) as equal and the language of the government


[21-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and that one is the one citizenship is based upon, among other things. Cause things like Baltic states and their dense almost-dead langauges that you have to pass an exam on is such useless garbage


[21-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
same with us, really.


[21-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Opponent#3498
afraid to become Russia's satellites? Make it english. German. Mandarin, what the hell ever


[21-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Opponent#3498
just not _this_


[21-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
we have all this talk about eurointegration, yet still define our 'culture' as some farming backwater


[21-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness I didn't even know Ireland HAD it's own language. I guess maintaining that in 2019 is same as Russia and it's neighbours. A matter of principle and politics, not practicality.


[21-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
still, this bullshit needs to go. Certainly before any open borders or whatever can exist.


[21-Oct-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
french is probably going to have one of their own things


[21-Oct-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
english is slowly taking over the EU (and most of the world except china, I might add) but france is being a bit stubborn


[21-Oct-19 05:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
hi did someone say French language organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_internationale_de_la_Francophonie

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The Organisation internationale de la Francophonie (OIF), sometimes shortened to the Francophonie (French: La Francophonie [la fʁɑ̃kɔfɔni]), but also called International Organisation of La Francophonie in English language context, is an international organization repres...
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[21-Oct-19 05:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Vive le Empire Francais


[21-Oct-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
it's unfortunate that it's english and not a more reasonable to learn language but most natural languages have serious problems


[21-Oct-19 05:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly the history of Lingua Francas change abruptly quiet a bit. It was because of the Treaty of Versaille that English became the dominant language, and that's only on grounds as arbitrary as Woodrow Wilson adamantly refusing to speak anything but English and getting British backing. French supremacy over medieval Latin came with the dawning of the Enlightenment, but also Paris housing the premier university in all Europe that was geographically placed far enough from Rome anyone could do anything without papal anger even during the middle ages. So by the time the Papal power was broken into the 16th century most of the courts spoke French by way of having been educated in France, in particular the Parisian dialect since they studied in Paris.


[21-Oct-19 05:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which carried over a sort of image of Parisian French being the language of Romance because these same people had hella drinking benders and partied it out at brothels in their off time, so it had that association with a good fucking time.


[21-Oct-19 05:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's nothing to suggest English will stay dominant, and there won't be a political shift to favor Chinese, or Spanish, or Xhosa even.


[21-Oct-19 05:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
And one of the profound effects of a universal language is that everything in life being covered, you can spend time learning the language of your cultural identity in order to carve out a common identity with people of your community. Just because most of Isreal came from America at some point doesn't mean Hebrew is less a valid language in Isreal, since Hebrew is a cornerstone to their Jewish identity, even if the fascist in power speaks English. And likewise there's the facilitated language revivals in the Anglosphere of Scottish, Welsh, and Irish.


[21-Oct-19 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
It might change, sure, but there's a more practical reason I don't think it will, at least not for decades


[21-Oct-19 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
keyboards


[21-Oct-19 05:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Keyboards can change and there be enough of a headway before the official change where producers have time to transition. Or even after the fact it'll take a bit before it trickles down. Because even if tomorrow the Chinese forced America to sign a treaty entirely in Chinese and effected a geopolitical shift to Chinese, everyone else would have to eventually learn Chinese to get anywhere in the world, which would mean eventually keyboard accommodations would have to change as well. Or any other language for that matter.


[21-Oct-19 05:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
There would be a nascent remnant of English at least because it is spoken and provided for. But as Chinese moves its way through government and commercial use more and more will need to speak it, and there'll be a state of co-dependenct, multi-lingualism.


[21-Oct-19 05:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated reminder: the American Founding Fathers, exempting perhaps Washington all probably spoke two to four languages.


[21-Oct-19 05:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
The education of people like Thomas Jefferson or any well-to-do or middle class person in Europe would have included reading the philosophical classics in their original languages, and not just the common vernacular of their region


[21-Oct-19 05:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Plus whatever else was important, which also meant that too was in French.


[21-Oct-19 06:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://boingboing.net/2018/09/13/better-than-bounty.html

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Cory Doctorow
https://boingboing.net/2018/09/13/better-than-bounty.html
How anarchist organizers in rural Puerto Rico rebooted their power...
After being hammered by hurricane Maria, the residents of the rural Puerto Rican mountain town of Mariana got tired of waiting for the bumbling, privatized, cash-starved power authority to reconnec…
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[21-Oct-19 06:19 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk just give me my esperanto so we won't have nationalism drama


[21-Oct-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/YCH1blD.png

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human trafficking at the border
https://i.imgur.com/YCH1blD.jpg


[21-Oct-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/cx0gKZB.gifv

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Boris outlines the UK's plan for leaving the EU
https://i.imgur.com/cx0gKZBh.jpg


[21-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
here's fun trivia from our lovely ~~imaginary~~ country.


[21-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
recently you guys mentioned official US hymn and how it ended in a question, which sucked.


[21-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
weeeeeeeell.


[21-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
after USSR all nation-states picked their own hymn. Russia adopted a rather epic piece adapted from Soviet one, a good choice all things considered. 'We' picked a patriotic uplifting message from like middle 19th century, looking further back in history to where 'we' percieved the core of our identity to be. A rebellios nation divided by empires, yadda yadda.


[21-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
there was just one hiccup. It was a message from a very different time and with a very different purpose.


[21-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
and it literally starts with the words: **"Ukraine is not dead _yet_"**


[21-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
goes on and on like this, 'our time will come, yadda yadda'...


[21-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
this disaster honestly kinda fits at times, a bit too well xD


[21-Oct-19 08:30 PM] ononim#8141
Poland     Ukraine 
            🤝 
Having a national anthem what implies their country is gonna commit not alive soon


[21-Oct-19 08:31 PM] ononim#8141
Tho I'd say Polish anthem is bretty good


[21-Oct-19 08:31 PM] ononim#8141
esepcially for not overly "Epic" anthem


[21-Oct-19 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://globalnews.ca/news/6023150/live-canada-election-results-2019-real-time-results-in-the-federal-election/

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James Armstrong
https://globalnews.ca/news/6023150/live-canada-election-results-2019-real-time-results-in-the-federal-election/
Live Canada election results 2019: Real-time results in the federa...
Global News will have live, real-time election results for all 338 ridings as polls begin to close across the country starting at 7 p.m. ET
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[21-Oct-19 09:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I enjoy watching these dinosaurs reeeeee.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50115449?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/clm1wxp53ppt/dup-democratic-unionist-party&link_location=live-reporting-story

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NI parties fail in bid to stop abortion law change
Legislation is set to change at midnight, which will see abortion decriminalised in Northern Ireland.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p07rnfwv.jpg


[21-Oct-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/15yswr6nwut31.jpg

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[21-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Oct-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-president-of-the-united-states-just-called-the-emoluments-clause-of-the-constitution-phony/

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Matt Naham
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The President of the United States Just Called the Emoluments Clau...
President Donald Trump, who swore to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," called the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution "phony" on Monday, just two days after he reversed course on holding the 2020 G-7 at Trump National Doral because of "Media &...
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GettyImages-115099001211.jpg


[21-Oct-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[22-Oct-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Our pensions AND minimal wages are worse :D


[22-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
salaries for politics probably higher ratio.


[22-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
the recently implemented 'anti-corruption' 'transparent' system for government procurement swung the pendulum the other way and resulted in _anything_, like pencils, having to be procured in open market and taking months to go through, so collusion makes things not fall apart (unless I misunderstand what they mean by it)


[22-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
water is private - I wonder about that. Water itself or water distribution companies? Cause the latter is definitely not unique to them.


[22-Oct-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Collusion in this instance are the companies colluding with one another in combination/an oligarchy to inflate their products. In the case of Chile toiler paper manufacturers, Chicken producers, and so on have banded together to artificially raise the price of everything because some people pointed out that the local, smaller brands are less expensive.


[22-Oct-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they've been jacking up the prices for a while by skewing the supply.


[22-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
(the costs of living are pretty low though, so it's not doomsday. Yet.)


[22-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
ah. Nah, nothing like this here.


[22-Oct-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lots of everything is priced pretty damn high in Chile as I've figured out.


[22-Oct-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cost of living is so high, of course people had to not pay their subway fares in Santiago, because it would kill them otherwise. And Santiago is a city that needs to be navigated by public transport, it's built more or less for it. And no one else can afford a car.


[22-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
so all of our problems (often probably worse) PLUS a high cost of living. Yeah, no wonder it boiled over.


[22-Oct-19 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a dystopia


[22-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Canada election count comming soon


[22-Oct-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[22-Oct-19 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
gamers rise up


[22-Oct-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[22-Oct-19 01:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
we can hope he is a man of his word.


[22-Oct-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably should have said "removed"


[22-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://imgur.com/ck1jqag

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[22-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Resolution to censure Schiff failed


[22-Oct-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
not a surprise


[22-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems voted as a block, GOP didn't


[22-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
either they weren't there or voted no I guess


[22-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are in a bind.


[22-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50132760

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Israel's Netanyahu says he can't form a government
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[22-Oct-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
can we get naziyahoo out of parliament yet


[22-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I mean if I were a deep red state Republican I'd be like why not


[22-Oct-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you gonna do, vote Democrat the next election? Ha.


[22-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure gutting loans to rural areas made sure everyone stayed out in the country votin' red...


[22-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally.


[22-Oct-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
muh freedumbs


[22-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think there might be 20 GOP senators that would vote for removal


[22-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd for sure get at least a dozen


[22-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You really would need at least a handful of staunch defenders to flip though...


[22-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The most likely of those to vote for removal are the interesting part.


[22-Oct-19 02:12 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mukbangtan/status/118635767551011225


[22-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!


[22-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
that was fast.


[22-Oct-19 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
huh


[22-Oct-19 02:16 AM] ononim#8141
it stil displayed in the other server


[22-Oct-19 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
video even works


[22-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe you missed a character or something?


[22-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466809-diplomat-who-raised-ukraine-concerns-to-testify-in-trump-impeachment#

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Diplomat who raised Ukraine concerns to testify in Trump impeachme...
A top U.S. diplomat who raised concerns about the Trump administration’s decision to withhold aid to Ukraine is slated to testify Tuesday behind closed doors as House Democrats press ahead with their impeachment inquiry.
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[22-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taylor was the one who called it crazy and said the aid was connected to the investigation


[22-Oct-19 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, this is the guy who made sure to leave a paper trail of the conversation in the volker texts even when Sondland said "call me"


[22-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No he left a paper trail of a call that already happened and Sondland told him to stop


[22-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And said it wasn't qpq


[22-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(He was told by Trump to say this)


[22-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't his own judgment


[22-Oct-19 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean in the texts themselves


[22-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The texts were him putting down on paper what he said in a call


[22-Oct-19 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll paraphrase but what I mean is the group was texting back and forth, Taylor goes "SO YOU MEAN WE'RE DOING QUID PRO QUO, RIGHT" and Sondland goes "call me" and then taylor goes "SO LIKE WE SAID ON THE PHONE, QUID PRO QUO" and *that's* when Sondland outright told him to stop


[22-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah that's basically it


[22-Oct-19 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mukbangtan/status/1186357675510112256

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[22-Oct-19 03:01 AM] ononim#8141
@Opponent you were right, дякую

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[22-Oct-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
нет ты


[22-Oct-19 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
"ні ти" actually, if I am not mistaken


[22-Oct-19 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
this is ukrainian


[22-Oct-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
🏳️‍🌈


[22-Oct-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Het tbl


[22-Oct-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/21/health/opioid-settlement.html opioid sellers weasled their way out with a serttlement...

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[22-Oct-19 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Het tbl :blep:


[22-Oct-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
нет


[22-Oct-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
нетerossexual


[22-Oct-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
по номо


[22-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
но хомо then, at least :P


[22-Oct-19 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ho xomo?


[22-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
could you people give a bit of background on this 'opioid addiction crisis'? First time I've ever heard of it.


[22-Oct-19 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How do you pronounce "по номо" in Russian


[22-Oct-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically pharma companies in america have been peddling addictive opioid painkillers to patients with the objective to get them hooked, and then they also sold the medication to help releive the addiction for massive profit.


[22-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it's directly derived from english so pretty much the same.


[22-Oct-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No i mean


[22-Oct-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In Cyrillic


[22-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
> но хомо


[22-Oct-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This massive con has killed hundreds of people so far


[22-Oct-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hoe ksomo?


[22-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
Ноu


[22-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
I think


[22-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
not sure on the phonetic transcription symbols


[22-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
for most words derived from english, O is pronounced by most as OU


[22-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
especially at the end of the word


[22-Oct-19 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Huh


[22-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) well, a step above the conspiracies about engineering viruses and selling cures for them, but only a step


[22-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's like 'nou homo'


[22-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
the first word gets an U because it's a standalone, homo is short from homoseksualist (again, a direct derivative with only russian 'male' suffix), so it doesn't get one, being the middle of the word


[22-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda weird.


[22-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
incidentally, the only non-derivative word for homosexuals that comes to mind is 'pidaras', a slur equivalent to 'faggot'. And even then I'm not sure where it came from (gotta look it up later)


[22-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
this by itself demonstrates the attitude towards the issue among the russian crowd.


[22-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
people seem to treat it like a modern (post-USSR) issue brought by the degenerative influence of the West :D


[22-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
or, at the very least, if not very modern, definitely originating in capitalist West regardless.


[22-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
also it goes to show that Soviet Union, which formed modern version of Russian (and to some extent Ukrainian) did not aknowledge the issue at all.


[22-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
пидора right


[22-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the one


[22-Oct-19 04:08 AM] ononim#8141
interestingly there's also varioations with е i.e. педик


[22-Oct-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah pidora


[22-Oct-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
pedik


[22-Oct-19 04:08 AM] ononim#8141
early soviets were somewhat "woke" in the gay question


[22-Oct-19 04:08 AM] ononim#8141
they revoked tsarist law and made homosex legal


[22-Oct-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
how'd they end up going back on that


[22-Oct-19 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
tho they didn't care much about it, and in fact some did view it as "upper calss decadence" because aristorcracy and officers were the only demographics what had any asociation with it


[22-Oct-19 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
well, until certain Georgian manlet took power


[22-Oct-19 04:10 AM] ononim#8141
and crimilised homosex with prison


[22-Oct-19 04:10 AM] ononim#8141
also banned abortion


[22-Oct-19 04:11 AM] ononim#8141
also also rolled back program to help various ethnic minorities russian fucked over while building emprie (i,e, giving them education in their own language, letting them govern locally using theiur language)


[22-Oct-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
why has your man of steel become more popular with the kids again


[22-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
CBC projects Liberal win


[22-Oct-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
that baffles me


[22-Oct-19 04:11 AM] ononim#8141
and instead gone with Russian chauvinism, of all things


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
tho, education on native langauge was stilla thing in the largest republics (ukraine, belarus. georgia, kazakhstan, et c) but they too felt the change in policy


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
@byte[] literally MUH STRONG HAND and HE WON THE WAR


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
like


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
there's nationalists


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
who like Russian Empire and are performative Orthodox


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
`why has your man of steel become more popular with the kids again`


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] ononim#8141
but love Stalin too


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
no kidding


[22-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it's literally the question of the millenium


[22-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, what Ononim said


[22-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
> literally MUH STRONG HAND and HE WON THE WAR


[22-Oct-19 04:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1186377176721100800

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[22-Oct-19 04:36 AM] ononim#8141

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[22-Oct-19 04:36 AM] ononim#8141

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[22-Oct-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine stanning the ancient Greeks arguing that they weren't hypersexual


[22-Oct-19 04:43 AM] ononim#8141
plato literally has a dialogue where socrates schooles a teenager and his group of palls on how to love younger teen proper


[22-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
actually useful sex ed. Wow.


[22-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
PPC BURNS


[22-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU7d_XzQa4&t=925s

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1 Hour of the Fortnite Default Dance
I just made this video for fun! I know this is a really dumb video, but oh well! Fortnite Battle Royale
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[22-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab: :dab:


[22-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 PPC IS GONE🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀


[22-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY&t=664s

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Crab Rave 10 Hours
Play League of Angels III: https://ad.admitad.com/g/vc8gfvwznj39efebf001c63bd1bcf8/ Obama is gone! Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06t...
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[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
what is PPC in this context?


[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Peoples Party Of Canada


[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They just big oofed


[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No seats


[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Alt right burned out


[22-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[22-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/9IwmYAdgU18

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Sabaton - Attero Dominatus
Film: Padenie Berlina / Upadek Berlina/ The Fall of Berlin Music: Sabaton - Attero Dominatus
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[22-Oct-19 05:15 AM] SemiDovich#0577
looks like rn the conservatives have a better popular vote but a weaker outlook in actual ridings


[22-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
>using your lewd account to talk about Canadian elections


[22-Oct-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how you know you're both full degenerate and full nerd.


[22-Oct-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
We just went over the full nerd thing


[22-Oct-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
http://mathb.in/37246


[22-Oct-19 05:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Someone else on another server made this gem and thank god for them

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[22-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
PPC?


[22-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Peoples Party of Canada


[22-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Alt right people who went "REEEE IMAGRATION"


[22-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They got 0 seats


[22-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The Milton conservative lady and the CBC lady are now my fave ship in this anime


[22-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657

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[22-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They only had one seat before tho.


[22-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
now they have 0 seats


[22-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If not much changes with the last 15 or so seats, then ultimately I'd say this is a net bad change.


[22-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Trudeau's party seeing the effects of him being rather corrupt and not really all that in line with what they want.


[22-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least the greens got another seat...but they're still laffable in this state.


[22-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally it's disheartening to see how little people care about environmental issues.


[22-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in a country that's going thru an oil boom after tossing out its science community.


[22-Oct-19 06:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People do care


[22-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but anyway


[22-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
the alt right got yeeted


[22-Oct-19 06:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
we have partys that atleast wants to do want to do something about climet change


[22-Oct-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada's Conservative party does not want to do something about it.


[22-Oct-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Liberal party and NDP do.


[22-Oct-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They both lost seats.


[22-Oct-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Greens want to, and gained a seat, but are tiny.


[22-Oct-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize the overall trend here is *away* from the parties that actually want to fix shit.


[22-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so did treudo lose?


[22-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
nope


[22-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
he is still pm


[22-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
block alsowants to do something about it


[22-Oct-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The alt right itself, 1 guy among hundreds, got yeeted, but the party that destroyed accountability while making sure scientists couldn't discuss their work without fear of gov't reprisal, and ultimately crushed Canadian science leadership, is gaining.


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] ononim#8141
I heard viewpoint what this outcome is actually kinda good for NDP


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
How?


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] ononim#8141
Canadian gov needs 170+ seats to forma a majority


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] ononim#8141
Libs don't have enough


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] ononim#8141
but are still the biggest party


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Libs will team with NDP?


[22-Oct-19 06:21 AM] ononim#8141
so they need NDP votes


[22-Oct-19 06:22 AM] ononim#8141
and NDP actually has a spine


[22-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's good, but I worry that it will be unstable.


[22-Oct-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Couldn't Libs just go with BQ, tho?


[22-Oct-19 06:23 AM] ononim#8141
I heard what Quebecois are too bitchy to form any lasting coalition


[22-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bloc said that they could be talked to tho


[22-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In other, shitter news


[22-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chile-protests-riot-fire-supermarket-deaths-santiago-latest-subway-fares-a9164121.html

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Looting continues despite president’s promise to scrap transport fare hike
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[22-Oct-19 06:27 AM] ononim#8141
oh huh, tories don't have enough seats to do anything even if all of BQ back, them nice


[22-Oct-19 06:29 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not really shure why bq would want to back them tho


[22-Oct-19 06:59 AM] SemiDovich#0577
I only used my "lewd" account because I had the Canadian election results open in the same window as the "lewd" account


[22-Oct-19 07:00 AM] SemiDovich#0577
also it's weird seeing the conservatives win a plurality of the popular vote but to have less seats than the liberals


[22-Oct-19 07:00 AM] SemiDovich#0577
it's like the reverse of here


[22-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah that happens a lot with the UK too


[22-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
FPTP is awful


[22-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is once you get like 5 parties going, on the smallscale you can hav really split votes


[22-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the big scale is formed from districting the smallscale


[22-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even without any gerrymandering, you get this absolute nonsense.


[22-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
IRV can clean it up for the most part, even if it's not ideal in some ways.


[22-Oct-19 07:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
at least coalitions help a bit


[22-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coalitions are necessary for sane representation, but not sufficient.


[22-Oct-19 07:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Phrasing it in math terms I see


[22-Oct-19 07:30 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/feggnews/status/1186485573340536834

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[22-Oct-19 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/supreme-court-vacates-ruling-finding-michigan-unconstitutionally-gerrymandered-congressional-districts/

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SCOTUS Vacates Ruling That Found Michigan Unconstitutionally Gerry...
The United States Supreme Court on Monday cancelled a federal court’s decision, which found Michigan’s congressional voting districts were unconstitutional because they were gerrymandered to such a degree that it violated voters’ First Amendment rights and the Constitut...
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[22-Oct-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
> He conceded that the ruling may enable increasingly inequitable political representation, but said that such a result does not violate any constitutional mandate where no standard for determination exists. Roberts did not prevent the court from intervening in cases of racial gerrymandering.


[22-Oct-19 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
"oh, yeah, this is really bad, but it's not in the constitution, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"


[22-Oct-19 11:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Four more years of Trudeau who saw that coming? No one. I watched the Debate Andrew shot himself in the foot constantly attacking Trudeau like he was some kind of Donald Trump wannabe


[22-Oct-19 11:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@Crow That had me thinking, the democratic party can split itself into four peices but the Republican party has to remain unified if it wants a chance at winning. No wonder Republicans stand by Trump, they know they couldn't win without his base and after Trump leaves it will be awhile before we see a Republican president. These pass few years have shown that the Republican party are the biggest hypocrites.


[22-Oct-19 11:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pk9reGKR8c

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[22-Oct-19 11:38 AM] ononim#8141
Hell yeah


[22-Oct-19 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/man-forced-to-pay-child-support-despite-dna-test-proving-he-is-not-the-father/77-f0f77af5-409c-40e4-8c6e-3336123e1f85

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Man forced to pay child support despite DNA test proving he is not...
One man is fighting an uphill battle against the state of Florida. He's being forced to pay child support despite a test proving he's not the father.
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[22-Oct-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It was the Florida Department of Revenue that appealed the decision by the judge. The reversal meant Sinawa had to continue paying child support.

St. Augustine Attorney Brandon Beardsley has been practicing family law for more than 16 years. He was surprised by the Department of Revenue's decision to file an appeal

"I’ve never seen this happen before," said Beardsley.

He says the state appealed the judge’s decision because it didn’t feel like Sinawa "jumped through the right hoops" to properly disestablish paternity.


[22-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, if that graph about cameras per number of people from before is legit, London (and UK by extension) is beyond saving already, so it's not just a PM issue


[22-Oct-19 01:02 PM] Opponent#3498
(I think it's fake though, so this might be irrelevant)


[22-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
UK is full to the brim of CCTV cameras


[22-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The expectation is every street has 3-4


[22-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
well, my original point stands then.


[22-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
they deserve all the shit they'll get if they let things go this far.


[22-Oct-19 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
@ gerrymandering


[22-Oct-19 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
what the _FUCK_


[22-Oct-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst partis they actively said gerrymandering is disenfranchising voters and should be a crime, and then continued to allow it anyway because the constitution "doesn;t mention it"


[22-Oct-19 02:46 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so the white house is now on trump watch


[22-Oct-19 02:46 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[22-Oct-19 02:47 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its like watching a 3 year old


[22-Oct-19 02:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
England is full of CCTV cameras everywhere else the cameras are private and mostly in shops.


[22-Oct-19 02:47 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also put that bitch in jail


[22-Oct-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Oct-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610 (pinned)
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[22-Oct-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
pin worthy?


[22-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
could be.


[22-Oct-19 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[22-Oct-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/10/18/sallie-mae-student-loan-debt/

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Sallie Mae Flew 100 Employees To Hawaii, And You Still Have Studen...
Sallie Mae, the private student loan lender, flew more than 100 employees to Hawaii to celebrate $5 billion in student loans.
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[22-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt2KDtDt940

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Louis Rossmann DESTROYS Technet corporate lobbyist!
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[22-Oct-19 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://evonomics.com/tragedy-of-the-commons-elinor-ostrom/

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The Tragedy of the Commons: How Elinor Ostrom Solved One of Life's...
The design principles for solving the tragedy of the commons can be applied to all groups
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[22-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Crow#5457
wait a minute, isn't this that tech repair dude that you watch @byte[]?


[22-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Crow#5457
I knew I recognized that voice


[22-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[22-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
He is indeed


[22-Oct-19 04:49 PM] Opponent#3498
clickbaity title but he was pretty good.


[22-Oct-19 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
He's just doing the bench appearo thing


[22-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
in the name or the presentation?


[22-Oct-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
name


[22-Oct-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
BEN SHAPIRO DESTROYS COLLEGE LIBERALS


[22-Oct-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro SHATTERS My Wedding Ring


[22-Oct-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro ANNIHILATES My Wife's Pussy


[22-Oct-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro ABDUCTS My Children


[22-Oct-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Karen come back please :(

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[22-Oct-19 06:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466832-trump-compares-impeachment-inquiry-to-a-lynching

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Trump compares impeachment inquiry to a 'lynching'
President Trump on Tuesday compared the ongoing impeachment inquiry to a “lynching,” immediately drawing blowback from one of the most senior black Democrats in Congress.
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[22-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/466878-graham-backs-trump-this-is-a-lynching-in-every-sense

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Graham backs Trump: 'This is a lynching in every sense'
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said President Trump is absolutely right to call the House impeachment process a “lynching.”
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[22-Oct-19 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Ah yes


[22-Oct-19 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Clearly the legal process to remove the president is the same as extrajudicial killing of black men


[22-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"This is a lynching, in every sense. This is un-American."


[22-Oct-19 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is he talking about, lynchings are almost uniquely American

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[22-Oct-19 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They just want to give Gym Jordan and Gaetz their screeching platforms


[22-Oct-19 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yet more evidence conservatives are the snowflakes in the story but don't notice it


[22-Oct-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are snowflakes throwing a crying fit about how everyone who isn;t throwing a crying fit is a snowflake throwing a crying fit


[22-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/466915-ceo-group-answers-warrens-request-for-proof-of-new-corporate-purpose#

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Top CEOs detail efforts to better support workers in letter to Warren
A group representing the nation's CEOs is laying out how companies are focusing less on maximizing profits for shareholders in a letter to 2020 hopeful Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), after she pressed them on their efforts.
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[22-Oct-19 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
'health and wellness'


[22-Oct-19 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
what is wellness exactly?


[22-Oct-19 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Playing cp_well in Team Fortress 2


[22-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I wish they'd sponsor that


[22-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466920-white-house-spokesman-trump-didnt-mean-to-compare-his-experience-with

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White House spokesman: Trump didn't mean to compare his experience...
The White House on Tuesday sought to soft-pedal President Trump's comparison of the impeachment inquiry targeting him to a "lynching," with a spokesman saying Trump was not comparing his experience to "dark times" in U.S.
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[22-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
but still though. Nagging feeling tells me this isn't the meaning here :P


[22-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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GOP more tight-lipped than Dems. Jordan praises the effectiveness of the GOP counsel, and Zeldin questioned whether Dems who though Taylor was damning actually sat through other depositions.

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[22-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"William Taylor prompted sighs and gasps when he read a lengthy 15-page opening statement, two of the sources said. Another person in the room said Taylor’s statement described “how pervasive the efforts were” among Trump's allies to convince Ukrainian officials to launch an investigation targeting former Vice President Joe Biden and another probe centering on a debunked conspiracy theory regarding the 2016 election."


[22-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/466942-democrat-ukraine-ambassadors-testimony-is-sea-change-in-the-impeachment-probe

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Democrat: Ukraine ambassador's testimony is 'sea change' in the im...
Democrats emerging Tuesday from the closed-door testimony of the top diplomat to Ukraine were tight-lipped on details but effusive on a central point: William Taylor, they said, was delivering the most damning testimony yet in the Democrats' impea
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[22-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] "uppity"


[22-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
who's uppity


[22-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The tweet is referring to such.


[22-Oct-19 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
ah


[22-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people actually asking for things, acting like they are not good little paesants, is the origin of the word "uppity".


[22-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
up as in class.


[22-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very existence of uppity as a word and its connotations are classist.


[22-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone forgets such, of course.


[22-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, about the gerrymandering thing


[22-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna outright say it


[22-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative justices aren't okay.


[22-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget like, biases and such for a moment


[22-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism *as an ideology* is premised on the idea of rejecting reason in favor of emotion and especially rejecting social changes, especially ones done to create more equality.


[22-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our nation's founding law is largely premised on increasing equality, with portions added later that STRONGLY require equality of opportunity.


[22-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism by its very nature opposes this.


[22-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you allow someone to become a Supreme Court justice whose ideology contradicts being a rational judge and accepting the premises of the law they're supposed to determine the meaning of?


[22-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, conservative justices shouldn't be allowed, @Itsthinking.


[22-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because you can couch it in being "look, I'm only doing what the Constitution says I can, no more and no less"


[22-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Horseshit.


[22-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is why they totally do not shit on the 14th Amendment constantly


[22-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives changed the meaning of the 2nd amendment.


[22-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm gonna be honest


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't claim you're going by original interpretation then change the meaning to fit your current ideals.


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no real rationality in SCOTUS, they have their opinions first and then find law to make it fit second


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone does this.


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is some rationality in SCOTUS, but it's warped.


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch is textual to a fault.


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and what i don't understand is why the fuck do these people serve for life


[22-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Textualism/originalism/living document


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all really BS


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ginsburg is great but then you get Sotomayor


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone is living document when they want to get what they want


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then there's Thomas.


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why living document is the only real stance


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US constitution made so many ivertures at regulating power and preventing tyrants yet the "founding fathers" somehow made an exception for the very people who interpret the law?


[22-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS originally didn't hav this much power


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if you ask a growing number of conservatives


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was given to them over time


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS shouldn't interpret the law


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives are necessary for political moderates, the ignorant sheep who happen to claim to be the majority of the population, to believe the system is fair


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is really that the founders wanted Congress to always be doing shit


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it dates all the way back to a court dispute with Thomas Jefferson iirc


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
That's it, that doesn't make it actually fair


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
including making amendments


[22-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're in an era where the last time the constitution got amended was over 50 years ago.


[22-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait


[22-Oct-19 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison

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[22-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was some stupid one about congressional pay


[22-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the last MEANINGFUL one was the 25th


[22-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
which was in the fukking 60s


[22-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
26th just changed voting age, 27th changed congressional pay rules.


[22-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
25th is the one about removing the president for being insane


[22-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mayor Pete has a good SCOTUS plan


[22-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the ERA shouldn't even need to exist as an option


[22-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Conservatives are assholes


[22-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Assholes who can go "equality under the law? Obviously doesn't apply to women unless it directly says so!"


[22-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same BS as "the president can't commit this crime unless it specifically lists him! Or he's a Democrat!"


[22-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
They're the sames ones who are fighting the ERA saying the constitution implies it


[22-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they turn around and say it doesn't.


[22-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[22-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
It's deeply hypocritical but it doesn't matter because they win elections


[22-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's always the game


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same as with giving minorities rights


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So snap election time I guess


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
they create some token example


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then say that further changes would giv minorities MORE rights than non


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way they can prevent minorities gaining actual equality


[22-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just plain gaslighting.


[22-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
"We had a black president, so how can there be racism?"


[22-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actual line I've seen people use.


[22-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never mind that said blakk president went about trying to giv some racial equality to inmates, and everyone went fukking mad about it


[22-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that any slight slipup was made out to be the worst thing ever, while the next, white, president can literally be accused of child rape and people say it's nothing.


[22-Oct-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Or shooting a person and not losing votes


[22-Oct-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Which I'm convinced is true


[22-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh he'd lose votes, from independents


[22-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
not from Republicans.


[22-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It really is solely about winning to them at this point.


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
That seems to be a good strategy


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Considering that they have won so far


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
and seem poised to win again next year


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it serves its own goal


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but its own goal isn't necessarily what they really want


[22-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately every time they win, they create vulnerabilities in what they've built to try to return to feudalism.


[22-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Progressives chip away at such and mold things around them, inevitably creating progress.


[22-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what sustains their winning, really.


[22-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It generates fresh outrage.


[22-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing their tools used against them.


[22-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Outrage is the only way they sustain the minimum votes to win.


[22-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's what makes 2020 so dangerous to them


[22-Oct-19 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's time for ya'll's dose of history

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[22-Oct-19 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Dank u chine v cool


[22-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They've simultaneously created hugely ridiculous changes in EOs...which are pathetically easy to reverse, and done almost nothing legislatively


[22-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
when progressives next come into power, they'll hav very little outrage fighting them while they shore everything up


[22-Oct-19 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
The outrage machine will embitter them


[22-Oct-19 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Fox news


[22-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
But there's a further problem there


[22-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the whole thing sustains by remembrance of the past


[22-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
and boomers are dropping like flies


[22-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're ruled by people over 70 right now


[22-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is what gets you this ridiculous conservatism


[22-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
the moment you put newer people in place, there's a sea change


[22-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That will undermine the outrage itself.


[22-Oct-19 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Dank u colonel france, v cool

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[22-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/466953-mcconnell-says-he-hasnt-discussed-ukraine-call-with-trump

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McConnell says he hasn't discussed Ukraine call with Trump
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he hasn't discussed the Ukraine phone call at the center of the House impeachment inquiry with President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_091019upi_lead.jpg


[22-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you not


[22-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're supposed to have a defense to these things


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to not get burned.


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell knows it's a lost cause


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
he just can't jump ship yet.


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
But equally, he can't go talk to the captain of the sinking ship.


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or he'd drown too.


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But like there has been no impeachment defense team put together at all


[22-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Republicans know that actual defense here is pointless.


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their best hope is it blows over


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly his allies told him recently "yeah you're definitely going to get impeached, better actually try defending it"


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Failing that, to retreat.


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is in denial, Its.


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He always has been about this.


[22-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks he can legitimately shoot people and nothing will get done about it.


[22-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
But there's a lot of people around him who are not fans of rabid conservative nonsense


[22-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he's too crazy for WH staff


[22-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, Taylor kept notes.


[22-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Career officials who aren't politicians first, know what the real game is, and that Trump is about to lose.


[22-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah, Taylor's opening statement was an hour long, and contradicted Sondland.


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but you see


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/466955-diplomat-tells-house-he-was-told-release-of-aid-to-ukraine

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Diplomat says Ukraine aid was tied to political investigations
A top diplomat to Ukraine told House investigators Tuesday that he believed the Trump administration withheld aid to Ukraine in an effort to get Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to launch politically motivated investigations,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/taylorwilliam1_102219.jpg


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sondland was just telling them about how he was told to say these things


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Taylor is now telling them those things Sondland was told to say are lies


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
THIS is how cross examination and such work to burn apart a conspiracy


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It really says a lot that Jim Jordan had nothing to say when he walked out I think.


[22-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sondland is the pawn and he's just saying "that's what Trump said, won't say if it's wrong"


[22-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Taylor is the bishop, and he's saying "yeah what Trump said is bullshit and I can prove it"


[22-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independently, these look bad


[22-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Together, they are damning.


[22-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no defense.


[22-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Deflection is a defense.


[22-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not a working one, in this case.


[22-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's Rudy?


[22-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In a safehouse somewhere, tied up and gagged to stop him from making matters worse


[22-Oct-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll show up in 3 days with a super hero costume declaring that he'll save trump by attempting to punch a congressman


[22-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Acting US Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor said Gordon Sondland told him President Trump wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to publicly state he would investigate Bursima and the 2016 election in order to provide the Ukrainians with a meeting and security assistance, according to a copy of Taylor’s opening statement obtained by CNN.

“During that phone call Ambassador Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Urkainian interference in the 2016 US election,” according to the testimony from earlier today.

Sondland, US ambassador to the European Union, told Taylor he’d also made a mistake earlier by telling the Ukrainian officials that a White House meeting with Zelensky “was dependent on a public announcement of the investigations.”

"In fact, Ambassador Sondland said ‘everything’ was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance,” Taylor testified.`


[22-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_oof_


[22-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Everything_


[22-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes a lot of sense, Ukraine coming out of nowhere saying they were actively investigating this nonsense would've been explosive drama fuel


[22-Oct-19 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No wonder Trump's pissed, his, ahem, _Trump card_ burned him

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[22-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they got their aid and then never did an investigation


[22-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[22-Oct-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://anfenglishmobile.com/features/pkk-letter-to-the-american-people-and-president-trump-38561

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[22-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Appears Sondland tried to correct things because he knew Taylor was more believable


[22-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ouch


[22-Oct-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/opening-statement-of-ambassador-william-b-taylor/6b3a6edf-f976-4081-ba7f-bce45468a3ff/


[22-Oct-19 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep, I've got the whole thing here, if you want to read it https://drive.google.com/file/d/18vtmYFn7i788o85FxdP_F6N_qY-D_llc/view

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[22-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"According to Mr. Morrison, President Trump told Ambassador Sondland that he was not asking for a "quid pro quo." But President Trump did insist that President Zelenskyy go to a microphone and day he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election, and that President Zelenskyy should want to do this himself."


[22-Oct-19 10:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
> Ambassador Sondland said that he had talked to President Zelenskyy and Mr. Yermak and told them that, although this was not a quid pro quo, if President Zelenskyy did not "clear things up" in public, we would be at a "stalemate." I understood a "stalemate" to mean that Ukraine would not receive the much-needed military assitance. Ambassador Sondland said that this conversation concluded with President Zelenskyy agreeing to make a public statement in an interview with CNN.


[22-Oct-19 10:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
whoever photographed this document hand highlighted that section


[22-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
wew


[22-Oct-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/3zn426isxyt31.jpg

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[22-Oct-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Capitalism.jpg


[22-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony is this a leak?


[22-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Appears to be


[22-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's his direct testimony


[22-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh shit it has a phone shadow on every page, wow


[22-Oct-19 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, I got this off an article on Talking Points Memo


[22-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now did Trump tell Sondland to threaten the stalemate


[22-Oct-19 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the document that elicited "gasps and sighs"


[22-Oct-19 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, honestly, if you read this whole thing, it looks like Giuliani was directly calling the shots on this back-channel foreign policy that Sondland was involved in


[22-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, but did Trump tell Sondland to threaten


[22-Oct-19 10:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
earlier in the document there's a moment where somebody (I'd have to re-read) expresses Trump's direct opinion, lemme go find it


[22-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's going to argue that he never said to threaten to withhold aid


[22-Oct-19 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It looks like Sondland got the orders to relay the bit about Zelensky(y) making a public statement on investigations from Trump directly


[22-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, but to withhold aid?


[22-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wait, this was the "everything" was dependent on the public statement right


[22-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
people would murder Zelensky if he made that announcement.


[22-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
Ukraine's involvement in 2016 = instant maydan again


[22-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
cause that's Russia's angle


[22-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
people would see that as instant betrayal.


[22-Oct-19 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
> Ambassador Sondland also told me that he now [in the "call me" phone call] recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling the Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a WHite House meeting with President Zelenskyy was dependent on a public announcement of investigations—in fact, Ambassador Sondland said, "everything" was dependent on such an announcement, **including security assistance.** [emphasis mine] He said that President Trump wanted President Zelenskyy "in a public box" by making a public statement about ordering such investigations.


[22-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
no suprise that Trump wouldn't care about internal affairs of his lessers.


[22-Oct-19 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@Itsthinking the answer is yes


[22-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[22-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The new GOP line will be "See, it's not a quid pro quo, it's _extortion_, and there's nothing in the constitution about that!"


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's barely qpq


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's still completely illegal


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's borderline extortion


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it's probably qpq too


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, but to them one crime cancels the other out thus creatign a null crime


[22-Oct-19 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe the term here is "bribery"


[22-Oct-19 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which happens to be one of the few things *explicitly* stated in the constitution that a president can be impeached for


[22-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What page was that quote on @WingbeatPony


[22-Oct-19 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
11, I think?


[22-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the smoking opening statement.


[22-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's likely to not be the last.


[22-Oct-19 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Note also that Taylor corroborates and mentions by name the concerns that Fiona Hill made on page 6


[22-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol someone called the Taylor story a nothingburger in another server when I linked it


[22-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, not that exact word but like NO SUBSTANCE


[22-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure they will not respond at all to the actual text.


[22-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did we know about the "he wanted Zelenskyy to talk to CNN and say Biden were being investigated" thing before


[22-Oct-19 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here you go, for your copy-pasting convenience

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[22-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. To anyone that would call Zelensky a retard again I'll point to this story and say that he did NOT, in fact, commit political and maybe literal suicide by caving in to the demands of a stronger ally.


[22-Oct-19 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *think* we knew something about Zelensky and a public statement before, but not that it was a direct order from Trump


[22-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
(as well as potentially tear up the country in the process)


[22-Oct-19 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We certainly knew about Zelensky meeting Trump at the UN the day before the "rough transcript" was released, as the poor sap had posted a photo of the two of them standing together on his social media


[22-Oct-19 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and was summarily shocked to discover that it had been


[22-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, his statement was rather pathetic. Something like 'I thought they'd only release THEIR side'


[22-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
but it was such a clusterfuck he was scrambling to say _anything_ it seems


[22-Oct-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with Trump as an "ally"


[22-Oct-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't bear any ill will towards zelensky


[22-Oct-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
You do what you have to do when a bully strongarms you


[22-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[22-Oct-19 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Through most of this, the Ukrainians didn't even know the aid was being withheld, Taylor knew before them, and he wasn't even directly in the "irregular" channel


[22-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really is crazy


[22-Oct-19 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The crazy part? If you try to play devil's advocate and remove Trump from the equation - that all of this was happening under his nose - the picture you get *then* is that Giuliani has been scurrying around on his own investigating the Bidens on behalf of Trump, dictating to the state department to withhold the Ukranian aid to make this statement happen, as a private citizen with no actual power in the government


[22-Oct-19 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the power structure makes no sense


[22-Oct-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump must be part of this


[22-Oct-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[22-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Now _that's_ a capitalism if I ever saw one https://www.insider.com/wework-reportedly-delayed-layoffs-because-its-short-on-cash-2019-10

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[22-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
what do they do? Or did, looks like a sinking ship not doing much right now


[22-Oct-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they work


[22-Oct-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or used to work?


[22-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too broke to pay severance.


[22-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dear lord.


[22-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
no but seriously. What was their business?


[22-Oct-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
real estate


[22-Oct-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Office real estate for startups.


[22-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
right. Well, can't say I know anything about that.


[22-Oct-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they sold or rented offices to small businesses


[22-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
no, I get it. I mean about the specifics and issues.


[22-Oct-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[22-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically your business comes along wanting to provide filters on your cat's tail that make its ass smell good


[22-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you need space NOW


[22-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
for CHEAP


[22-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
so WeWork says "we got u fam" and givs you something that used to be a skating rink, with cokkroaches for no extra charge


[22-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
You then put in desk chairs, computers, etc. to create a huge OPEN AIR noisy as fukk can't get anything done everyone can hear each other there is no privacy environment


[22-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then your company goes under after a month because you're an idiot and the product doesn't work anyways and you skip town without paying WeWork


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And all your employees go bakk to the streets, where they're slightly less likely to hear each other's every fart than when they were crammed into rooms like sardines.


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
sounds like the story of oof.


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is what Republicans want us to believe is a healthy economy.


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY - Every congressman, in unison, while being untrue


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
STAHP making everything about Republicans.


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
tyvm.


[22-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
just, please.


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Not everything is the fault of Republicans or conservatives


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, this is the environment their legislation tends to create


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right to work, so anyone can walk on or off the job at any time


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
makes things change fast, but makes for tons of uncertainty


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
everything good is because liberals, everything bad because Republicans I GET IT


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Sometimes a bad buisness model is a bad buisness model


[22-Oct-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
PLEASE STOP.


[22-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, this is what their policies cause, and appear to be designed to cause.


[22-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Hey nebbie why not try to find something good about the right.


[22-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Crow can giv ya the more elaborated neoliberal rant


[22-Oct-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Finding something good isn't the premise of discussion


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
As politics is not strictly black and white


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discussion is primarily for talking about problems


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol I just saw a similar argument for this whenever someone they call a "leftist" chimes in with any discussion that isn't "witch hunt"


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Discussion says politics


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You know what our opinion is here, why are you talking?"


[22-Oct-19 11:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Not problems


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
While I don't like the kind of ad nauseum arguments that these tend to lead to


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politics is about problems and how to fix them.


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, liberals are causing fewer problems.


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey speaking of business and politics, https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2513

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[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the problems they are causing aren't generally on such a large scale.


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
The truth about it is uncomfortably that neoliberals are responsible for just about every bit of fucked up shit that affects you on a daily basis, and the GOP by name for the rest


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, unions having power isn't destroying the fabric of the economy


[22-Oct-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
But unions not being able to get any sway kind of is.


[22-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
So should I talk about the party that supports unions in general, and is doing very little?


[22-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or the party that is actively trying to destroy them?


[22-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are saying this is all he said she said with Taylor, ha


[22-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Some unions are good and some are corrupt.  They are not all good.


[22-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not the point


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
if I want to talk about worker employer relations


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Then what is the point nebbie?


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Democrats aren't doing anything on the matter but sitting there


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Republicans are actively trying to destroy what little power workers hav


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
why would I be talking about Republicans doing good, or what Democrats are doing?


[22-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
You always say the tories are the devil incarnate.


[22-Oct-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it'd be nice if they actually for once supported things in line with, you know, democracy.


[22-Oct-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The news today was them upholding gerrymandering instead


[22-Oct-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[22-Oct-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry but, if something is going around destroying shit


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Not everything they do is evil.


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not gonna talk about it as anything less than evil.


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unions in general corrupt or not, tend to give a floor to stand on to workers when dealing with boss/worker relations


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
`Finding something good isn't the premise of discussion
Discussion is primarily for talking about problems`


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want something talked about as good


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
then maybe it should actually go around doing something good


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the last 2 years, I've seen very, very little of that from the Republican party.


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Same with the Democrat party as well. They aren't all evil either.


[22-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a problem with that. If everything you say is 100% homogenous, predictable and 'samey', it starts to strongly sound like propaganda and you lose the value as a conversation partner.


[22-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They seem to hate workers' rights, they're reducing taxes on the rich while wealth inequality rises, they oppose LGBT protections


[22-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
But painting one party as cybermen and borg doesn't help


[22-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
there's plenty of people payed to distribute propaganda. Doing it for free is, at the very least, a waste.


[22-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The democrats have had a long history of neoliberalism, we admit that


[22-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
You know who's had it longer? The republicans


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
And they've caused _way_ more problems over the past 50 years


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, states' rights on marijuana could be useful


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's what Obama instituted


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Jeff Sessions reversed that policy


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
How can I talk of Republicans being good when they make their own ideas of policy contradictory?


[22-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
One moment, states should be free to allow discrimination in the workplace, the next they shouldn't be free to allow recreational drug use


[22-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punishment of recreational drug use seems to be hurting society


[22-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
discrimination in the workplace seems to be hurting society


[22-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans argue for both to be allowed.


[22-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they argue for the former in a case where it's the federal gov't overriding states' rights


[22-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the latter when it's the federal gov't that'd stop it.


[22-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
I must therefore conclude they **don't give a damn about states' rights**, and only use it as a cover for racism.


[22-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially because punishing recreational drug use both in effect targets minorities and *in the purpose of its creation* does.


[22-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/466992-hillary-clinton-has-said-shed-enter-2020-race-if-she-saw-an-opening-and

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[22-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[22-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie I hate to ask it, I truly do, as it shouldn't have a bearing, but what are you? White? Black? Asian? (other option)?


[22-Oct-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
What does it matter?


[22-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
if the answer is you are black (not really a minority imo but it would fit more), it would explain why EVERYTHING about 'White people's party' is pitch-black evil. It's personal.


[22-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it would at least explain SOMETHING.


[22-Oct-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
because right now, I simply don't get it.


[22-Oct-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm white and i think republicans are a dark pit of corporate evil


[22-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't preach it from every soap box  you can get tho, or at least I haven't seen you doing it


[22-Oct-19 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but if i did it, it would get redundant


[22-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
there CAN BE other issues at play.


[22-Oct-19 11:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm hispanic but appear white


[22-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
with different reasons, perhaps.


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I've seen systemic racism firsthand, I live in a city with a minority black population


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm intimately familiar with how the poor get fucked


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
How sexuality is repressed and domestic violence is perpetuated


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my reasons are social, economics, race, sexuality, the fact that i'll likely never afford a house, medical, or public transport


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, everything about Republicans. Rep policy, well they're evil, we knew that. Dem policy, well Reps ruin it, so it doesn't count. Outside effects, well Reps made it happen or made it worse or whatever, so they're still to blame.


[22-Oct-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, I've talked about Democratic policy before and why like half of it's shitty


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
like fuckin balls, I get that they suck, but jesus.


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It comes up every debate


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
yes. Because reps ruined it.


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I remember.


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
then I guess I missed it.


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Because neoliberals ruined it


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has horrible policy that is largely not because of the GOP


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's policy is highly conservative


[22-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is such both because of who he is and because it is an attempt to appeal to a LARGE amount of racist voters.


[22-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said many a time


[22-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden can reach across the aisle between christian extremists, segregationists, child-raping billionnaires, CEOs killing diabetics, and others


[22-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
In one happy family of do-nothing moderate policy.


[22-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that a LOT of the US is racist


[22-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
300 miles to my west, people I know from college won't be told of hotel vacancies because they look too brown.


[22-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
My state's thankfully a little less blatant about it


[22-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's still not terribly uncommon to hear people talking about how THE MEXICANS or THE BLAKKS are lazy or such


[22-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, my mom tries to justify her racism. All this talk about how hip hop is worse, so and so who HAPPENS TO BE BLAKK is ugly, over and over


[22-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
She makes it really obvious because the first thing she says about anyone blakk is that they are blakk and she doesn't like them.


[22-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
With emphasis.


[22-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then after that spins some convoluted justification, or nothing.


[22-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Macarou#9574
Just the other day, my mother was whining nonsense about Mexicans overpopulating, when I was talking about the rates of homelessness in California.


[22-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, my mom is a liberal democrat


[22-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
she thinks everyone should get free abortions


[22-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't like the Republicans because their racist and classist policies strongly negatively impact her daily life.


[22-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
She is okay with racism on the ground level, but not enshrined in law.


[22-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a very neoliberal position.


[22-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's what freedom of opinion ultimately means. She isn't _wrong_. Law should follow the culture, not try to force it.


[22-Oct-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
if that was the case we'd never (or rarely ever) get freedoms


[22-Oct-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
laws that require nondiscrimination are cultural breaks


[23-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Law should not giv a single fukk what the culture is


[23-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can hav any culture you want, but the moment you start treating people like shit, you get your business demolished.


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not how it works, though. Nor I doubt, legislate or not, how it will ever work.


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, your *culture* is that men shouldn't wear skirts? TOO FUKKING BAD you don't get to fire people in a way that discriminates by their sex.


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I am a recent convert to objective morality


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
people will change. Or they won't. But the law pushback will simply produce anger and little else.


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
laws should be written to enforce _that_


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can be angry in prison.


[23-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk 'em.


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
14th amendment doesn't care about their stupid feelings.


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well. Putting everyone in prison works so well for US so far.


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor should it.


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
know who else it worked well for?


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Believe it or not, the majority of people are willing to not be shitty employers.


[23-Oct-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't believe in imprisonment when it's not necessary to establish punishment


[23-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses respond *rapidly* to fines that hurt their bottom line.


[23-Oct-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's an open question as to what is meant by necessary in that case


[23-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Charge them a few million when they fire a guy for wearing a skirt and they wise up fast.


[23-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Real* fast.


[23-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
they simply will not accept a risky asset in the future.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
or find some other way to game the system.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
it is inevitable.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
if people don't want to do what you're trying to make them do, they'll find a way.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I find the idea it's all inevitable to be a shit defense for shitty behavior.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
it's any behavior


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
good or bad.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As much as *something* bad in some amount will always occur, human behavior is quite clearly malleable.


[23-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And accountability is actually possible mostly.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given enuff time, you can even change the underlying culture outright.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho that requires education.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
education, that's right.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
not legislation.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
that's how you change people.


[23-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two are not neccessarily distinct.


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Education is about affecting someone's internal state


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
it's why conservatives _hate_ college


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Opponent#3498
currently they're very much distinct. It's very easy to make a law or a series of laws that simply do dumb shit and are gamed.


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
all kinds of shit can affect their external behavior.


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law can say what to use in education


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's much harder to set up proper education. How on earth can you do that when your (or our) vector shifts 180 every 8 years I don't know.


[23-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
or it can require education when you commit a certain offense


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
prison isn't an education. It never worked that way.


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
and, again, it will never change. Chinese try, but even then.


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not uncommon for certain laws in the US to involve sentencing requiring you complete a class to not be imprisoned etc.


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
oh. You mean literal education.


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the pendulum swinging *can* be countered


[23-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, okay, that's a step in a right direction.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judiciary is a large part of countering it.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges don't all get replaced each swing, and they are strongly pushed towards objective reasoning.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
if you bring up Reps now again, well, imagine I literally bite you.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I would if I could.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't always work, but it only needs to work enuff.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
trust me.


[23-Oct-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
thank you.


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
_glances to recent Republican efforts to stakk the judiciary with people who literally were previously refused because of past racist behavior..._


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
yes. That.


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
don't. We know.


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
trust me.


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt you do.


[23-Oct-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
a blind monkey would learn by now.


[23-Oct-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi got literally censured, under a practice designed to stop literal fistfights, for speaking out against a trump appointee that MLK's widow had written a letter against the appointment of.


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem I have with inclusion laws or w/e is you get token lesbians in movies and shit like this. Or token minorities in education, that get accepted to meet the quota (and the others get the finger anyway). It doesn't work and only produces anger. From everyone.


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
you get bare minimum of effort mandated by the law.


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
the end.


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who was talking about inclusion laws?


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Laws against discrimination aren't the same thing.


[23-Oct-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well it's the same root issue. Stop rejecting X


[23-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
that's how I see it anyway.


[23-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
the reasons WHY people reject them are different, yes.


[23-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's not in any way adressed ever, and I wouldn't begin to think up how would I adress it without it becoming a dumpster fire


[23-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and it was Warren, not Pelosi.


[23-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
bottom like - bare minimum effort and a grudge for having to do it/having done it. The grudge is optional.


[23-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
education - YESSSSSS this is the way. But it takes time. People want results now. And 'results now' on societal issues just can't materialise.


[23-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
not in any stable way anyway


[23-Oct-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The same root issue isn't the same solution, tho


[23-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the KEY thing to understand


[23-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
many solutions either don't solve the problem or make it worse


[23-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's *much easier* to identify problems than to find good solutions.


[23-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And further, if you assume a particular solution, and work from that to disregard the problem as being one to try solving, that's highly irrational.


[23-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
we discussed worker's rights laws before. You told me the point is to force people to at least think up of a reason instead of just straight out firing someone at their discretion. A broad soft anti-discrimination law. That was _good_.


[23-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
but usually, from what I've seen, the approach is very much a blunt force trauma. If more laws are like THIS, _encouraging_ people to not be cunts, rather than arbitrarily trying to punish them for not ticking a certain check box, sure. But, well, this is a hard sell for people who want solutions _now_.


[23-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Opponent#3498
you mentioned 'they can be angry in prison'. That's one way to get societal changes quickly. Physically remove sufficient part of undesirables to send a clear message. Literally everything else will take time and creativity to do right.


[23-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
and both are lacking in the age of populism.


[23-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you tend to be overly assumptive of the desired form of things


[23-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
so I'm REALLY not holding my breath.


[23-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the sentiment is not the same as the details


[23-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a lot of what I hate about the dynamic of current politics to begin with


[23-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment we talk about how much of an issue it is that shit is wrong, the response I hear is OMG YOU WOULD RUIN EVERYTHING based on assuming the simplest, most crazy way to try to fix the problem.


[23-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is especially bad when I also regularly do go over possible policy solutions to things


[23-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very nature of the discussion is compromised.


[23-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you see, 20th century, in it's entirety, is a stellar example of people wanting drastic societal changes quickly.


[23-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
the fear is justified by recent history, no less.


[23-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of this stuff is very old


[23-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of taxing the rich more, for instance, was well and truly *in place* in the 50s


[23-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now in the US they're taxed *less* than the lower classes


[23-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Opponent#3498
taxing the rich is actually one of those things that CAN be done quickly with little harm but are unlikely to, as money typically equals political power.


[23-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
I was thinking more in terms of ground-level racism, or any other -ism.


[23-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't the radicalness of the change, or the speed with which it can be done


[23-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that the change implicitly means a worldview where the rich are not above everyone else.


[23-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what this is all really about.


[23-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of not discriminating on the basis of sex is similar


[23-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's been around in the US for decades


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Employers *by and large* do not discriminate on such


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here we are, with a Supreme Court case


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
where the foundational logic of how it works is being called into question


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
because people don't like the idea of a male employee suddenly showing up as female


[23-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Radical rapid societal change isn't being fukking called for


[23-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's being called for is following the law that people already hav generally been following for decades and not creating a new way to be shitty to your employees.


[23-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I hear you.


[23-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things under Trump are ridiculous


[23-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has the military not allowing anyone who ever changed sex in.


[23-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He *took away* the ability of commanders to override assignment of sex standards.


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are unreasonable changes, extra regulations whose only purpose is quite apparently to discriminate.


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't sex change destroy the body to the point where serving isn't really feasible?


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex change pretty much destroys your genitals


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that doesn't really mess with the rest of your body.


[23-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hormones change things, but are optional.


[23-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US military does fine with having both sexes to begin with with their own original hormones.


[23-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“President Trump has done nothing wrong — this is a coordinated smear campaign from far-left lawmakers and radical unelected bureaucrats waging war on the Constitution. There was no quid pro quo. Today was just more triple hearsay and selective leaks from the Democrats’ politically-motivated, closed door, secretive hearings. Every day this nonsense continues more taxpayer time and money is wasted. President Trump is leading the way for the American people by delivering a safer, stronger, and more secure country - the do-nothing Democrats should consider doing the same.”- WH Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham


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[23-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was sworn testimony


[23-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans were in the room


[23-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
well, they're going all in.


[23-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
no turning back from _this_.


[23-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just maddening the level of bullshit they're on.


[23-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't hearsay.


[23-Oct-19 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"coordinated smear campaign from far-left lawmakers"


[23-Oct-19 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the Overton Window at work once again


[23-Oct-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
also what does he mean by taxpayer money being wasted


[23-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how does she think a grand jury works


[23-Oct-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
does impeachment require tax money? i'm confused


[23-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Opponent#3498
I think they mean the trials, inquiries, all of this


[23-Oct-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and how is that a waste of taxpayer money


[23-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Surely those congressmen are paid by the hour


[23-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and their extra pizza consumption will bankrupt DC


[23-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
it isn't


[23-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's what they mean.


[23-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
they're innocent. It's all a ploy. And in addition to that, muh taxpayer's money


[23-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it'd clearly be cheaper to not enforce any laws so


[23-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
time to all enact Libertarianism


[23-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
republicans are causing pretty much every major problem in the US right now


[23-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberal democrats perpetuate it by doing nothing


[23-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Im back and i still see that this Discussion is still going on. =(


[23-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So if Republicans are are the great evil that plagues the land could you list what the problem is and how exactly it ties back to the right?


[23-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
racism, wealth inequality, this sort of thing. It seems to be (by popular opinion here?) that the idea of multiple layers of groupthink and 'us vs them' is a Republican-only issue.


[23-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
and, while they might or might not be the root cause for _everything_ bad, they oppose any change to make it better.


[23-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I bet Nebbie could elaborate more on this...


[23-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The general pattern is any change that threatens the current societal SES hierarchy they oppose.


[23-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
also, as for transitions doing nothing to hinder body and mind perfomance, well, unless there's a definite answer, generally accepted across medical science society, I don't buy it. Hormones and relatively minor changes to the body can drastically change perfomance (typically for the worse) even without someting as massively invasive.


[23-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The APA generally accepts that gender dysphoria and sex change operations do not lead to lifelong hinderances worth keeping people out of the military over.


[23-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
add to that military in general being of a 'dont fix what aint broken' mentality, you can see why I have a hard time buying Trump being at the root evil.


[23-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their official stance is the policy is unnecessary and discriminatory.


[23-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, to note further


[23-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not just anyone who ever got a sex change PERIOD under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that's banned


[23-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is...pretty harsh as a policy


[23-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd do the same, facing a decision like this. Maybe not a flat out denial, but a definite red flag on any potential recruit.


[23-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
unless I was short on manpower, which I don't think is the case.


[23-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also that you cannot hav had gender dysphoria recently before joining.


[23-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
a war with China might change all this :P


[23-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, thing is


[23-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gender dysphoria's diagnostic criteria are so simple, basically you hav it if you believe you should get a sex change, for 6 months straight.


[23-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, want a sex change for 6 months, boom, you've got it.


[23-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
if you DO believe that genuinly enough to say it out loud on multiple occasions, yeah, I think it's pretty legit


[23-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But here's the problem


[23-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is using a person's *desires* as evidence of mental instability


[23-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is completely out of fukking line with everything psychologists currently understand about the human psyche.


[23-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wanting something to change and being mentally unstable are separate, and assuming one from the other is ridiculous.


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the policy Trump has enacted says that gender dysphoria within *the last 3 years* is enuff on its own to completely disqualify you from service no ifs, ands, or butts.


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a red flag for 'something's wrong with you and I don't want to deal with it'


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, it creates a *lifelong* disqualification if you actually get a sex change, **whether or not you had gender dysphoria**


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it fukking is not.


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it is for me.


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone wanting to be something else isn't inherently a red flag.


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
provided I am your recruit officer


[23-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
or your future commander


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not left up to the recruit officer or future commander.


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the policy PERIOD


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
as a person I couldn't care less.


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTS


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The literal policy is that if you wanted to be a different sex, you're out.


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you became a different sex, you're out


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is discriminatory on its face


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
do you think anyone actually opposes this among actual military?


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't allow for people to even prove they're fine


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they do


[23-Oct-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis does.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis has stated to congress he doesn't fukking care what his troops do with their genitals


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's discrimination. Because your perfomance might be worse than advertised. Suddenly shit happens and you become a problem.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wants them fighting.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
it's ableism maybe, but that in itself is rooted in practicality.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody becomes a problem just because they want to be a different sex.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about ability


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
well it's not _normal_


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
no test of ability is done.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
neither statistically nor biologically.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we just throw out anybody not normal?


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
If the person can't decide if they are a man or a woman it may effect their descion making. Also if they are transitioning it may effect group cohesion of the military unit


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
btw, burden of proof on all this "groupthink echo chamber stop talking about republicans" stuff is on the people claiming that republicans aren't the major problem in the US right now


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guess the gays are gone


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
guess all the atheists are gone


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what this really fukking is.


[23-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
there's enough _normal_ people to satisfy military's demands.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not any caring about people's actual ability


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
unless they're mandated to, they won't ever deal with it.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no reason to.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not liking that they were abnormal, that they went outside of what is culturally allowable.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
we can provide endless examples of all the problems that republican policies are causing in the US


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans people actually enlist at higher rates btw


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
it's literally easier to throw out total 5% of population out of the equation and make someone's life considerably easier.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be way easier to recruit if they were allowed in.


[23-Oct-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
if you want to say that republicans aren't the problem, you're gonna have to provide some evidence that they aren't


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside i don't think your argument makes sense


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
transgender people are by and large convinced that they should belong to the gender they were not born in


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't making recruiting officer's lives easier by throwing out like a twentieth of their recruits.


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
@Sunnyside nah, that's not the issue. It's biology that is a concern.


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're making their lives *harder*


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
by limiting the amount of potential recruits.


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
are they LACKING in manpower?


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
no?


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, we hav tests of ability


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's not that "they can't decide", they already have


[23-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and of mental stability


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
so unless a War is coming, they don't need them.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it's very simple.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
all of which are categorically discarded by current policy on trans recruitment.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's never been about "deciding" what gender to be, it's about weighing the risks of going through a complete physical transformation vs just doing hormones


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So because we CAN throw them out, we should?


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't follow.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it does.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The burden of proof is on you


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
they are the gender that they are, despite the fact that their body developed a certain way


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
for why we SHOULD throw them out


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and for why it's not JUST discrimination.


[23-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are being categorically discarded. Why does this help us?


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow and that's fair. If they follow a set of standards set out for them, it's like, whatever. As long as their perfomance checks out and they match the profile in the ways that matter.


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it in any way reasonable to completely ignore someone's actual ability in favor of "welp they wanted to be a girl for 6 months last year"?


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
physical transition throws that out the window.


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it doesn't


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
honestly none of this transphobic hysteria makes any sense if we consider the alternatives to excluding trans people from society


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just switch to the other sex's standards


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
bam


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
@everyone not from society. From the military.


[23-Oct-19 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
conservatism isn't designed to make people think twice about their convictions


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, by the way


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
civilian jobs are fair game, because, well, half the population is disabled in SOME way it seems.


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
under OBAMA's policy


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
a commanding officer with a trans soldier


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
could decide which sex's standards to apply


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's kinda iffy tbh


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but under the NEW policy, it's only their current sex


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
did it actually work out in the field?


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No overrides ever.


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes, it seemed to


[23-Oct-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
not in theory. In practice.


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans people WERE serving


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and WERE transitioning


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and they stopped because evil Trump.


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and those are actually grandfathered in provided they provide all their documents etc.


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
this makes no sense.


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump stopped new recruitment


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
by completely ignoring the 3rd-party research bakking the Obama era policy


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
in favor of the DoD's own report


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was created with selected veterans to decide


[23-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
politically charged research can often be safely discarded


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
if you need to, you can produce any result  you want based on actual data.


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
that by itself isn't an argument


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They threw out third-party stuff in favor of internally-created policymaking.


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very clear what is going on there.


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
>you can produce any result you want based on actual data


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
no you can't


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
they hide the data


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
well, to a point, but in an issue like this with it's tiny magnitude, yeah absolutely you can


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
and then release the conclusion without providing the data


[23-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't tiny in magnitude


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the data collected for the Obama policymaking looked at militaries all across the world


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and existing bodies of research


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow did Obama's administration publish the data?


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
it was based off of third party studies not affiliated with the government


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It did not...it did not create the data. The data was published by the third party.


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
did anyone ELSE but US ever accept trans soldiers? Without grave need to do so?


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[23-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has had them serving for TWENTY FUKKING YEARS


[23-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, that's pretty reasonable data sample.


[23-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the whole "stop talking about republicans" thing was never properly concluded


[23-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
so what's the proof that republicans aren't causing all the major problems?


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow It was. You all came up to say that yes, they ARE in fact root cause of all evil.


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that was the argument


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
that was pretty much over and done.


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument I saw was that Republicans do some good things, and shouldn't be brushed aside categorically as evil.


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
no I didn't


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
people whose gender identity does not match the sex they were born with are not on their face unable to serve for any reason, be it mental or physical


[23-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
To which my rebuttal is simply that over the last 2 years specifically, Republicans hav done precious little that has improved anything


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also not a "I don't want to deal with it thing" because you bet your ass the recruiting officer doesn't care if you're white black asian female or male neurotypical or autistic straight or gay or anything else like that


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
they just want you to enlist


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Off the top of my head, they pushed bakk against idiocy in Idaho's marriage law, they undid Obama's stupid evidentiary policy in college rape cases, and they helped SCOTUS start to put some crakks in the rogue executive


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
last 2 years were Trump years. They already can be discarded as a net loss.


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
you took what I actually said and assumed it was just "hurr all republicans are evil" without the context of what I actually said


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
also they allowed to pass certain good laws


[23-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
one being targeted at stopping opioids


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and another that brought about some sentencing reforms


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that one was Jared's baby, which came WAY late, so a lot of its effects were already moot)


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] okay. Not a recruitment officer then. The people actually deciding if you're fit or not.


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
that was my bad.


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't care either


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
@Raptorshy


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] that's Mattis' stance


[23-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
he doesn't fukking care about anything but how well you can shoot


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
(because he's a bit of a crazy war crimes guy)


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like, he took offense when Dems even asked him about Trump policy


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause he knows he can't fukking influence Trump policy


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he seems to despise it


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis btw didn't use "President" when referring to Trump recently...


[23-Oct-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He uses titles for everyone else.


[23-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/james-mattis-trump/596665/

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The Man Who Couldn’t Take It Anymore
“I had no choice but to leave,” General James Mattis says of his decision to resign as President Trump’s secretary of defense.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/2019/08/WEL_Goldberg_MattisOpener/facebook.jpg?1566926060


[23-Oct-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
btw, the funny thing about all those few good things that the republicans did is that it's also leftists who would want to do the same (constant reminder that mainstream democrats are neoliberal and so was obama)


[23-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems Mattis was even more annoyed than I thought


[23-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy left 2 days ago


[23-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Holy shit this administration


[23-Oct-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can't even keep up with how stupid their policy is and how much everyone around them hates it.


[23-Oct-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not called the revolving door administration for nothing...


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@byte[] What did I do?


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
caw

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[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
you're trans and you wanted to be in the military


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
and then trump got in the way


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh it was over Syria


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That really really pissed me off


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Still does


[23-Oct-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mattis does not like abandoning the kurds


[23-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I had about 2 years of planning go into that just waiting for the ban to be lifted , just to have Trump shove it back into place


[23-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, you know you fucked up massively as president when not only former generals are tearing into you, but current generals are also speaking against you


[23-Oct-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
people don't seem to realize how huge CURRENT GENERALS speaking against their commander-in-chief is


[23-Oct-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why soldiers aren't allowed to make political statements while in uniform


[23-Oct-19 01:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
But yeah, recruiters don't seem to care one bit, neither do anybody I've met in the military it seems (at least not openly)


[23-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
hell, soldiers aren't even allowed to show up to political gatherings in uniform


[23-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
unless they're there on official business


[23-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>current generals
That's a huge line to cross in the military. That's a court martial waiting to happen


[23-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I guess you people are more enlightened than I am.


[23-Oct-19 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I concede my point. Most likely personal bias.


[23-Oct-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how big a line trump crossed abandoning the kurds


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
US has abadoned kurds like 7 times before or something


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne sending protection troops to duria


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not nearly at this scale.


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump didn't just leave them


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3 other times and not at this size


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
he gave Turkey intel on where they were


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an outright betrayal.


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm  honestly only knowledgable about military policy here. I don't know much about the political side of it


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
w/e I'm not going there.


[23-Oct-19 01:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I kinda try to stay out of that


[23-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
US doing US things. It's just that Trump fails to derive any value out of it. That's on him, and why he sucks.


[23-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Raptorshy Mad Dog Mattis, mr. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THEIR GENITALS ARE I CARE HOW THEY SLAY BODIES resigned as Secretary of Defense.


[23-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah I know


[23-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of hard to keep up with all the shit happening, but the military establishment right now wants Trump out.


[23-Oct-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Badly.


[23-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I remember that one dude that said he didn't want to worry whether the person he was in a foxhole with was male or female, and that statement had so many things wrong with it I didn't even know where to begin.


[23-Oct-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's the thing, it;s not jsut on him. This move has potentially ruined any future and presernt alliances we have. America can;t be trusted anymore


[23-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
America is currently seen as less trustworthy than China.


[23-Oct-19 01:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, there's a small following still that likes Trump, but a lot of people are very...


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
:oof: 
:oof2:


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this has essentially spelled out that not only will we abandon you, we'll giveyour enemies your locations on the way out.


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're still considered more trustworthy than Russia, slightly.


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Well military people I mean. They speak out against him in private, but in a way where they aren't


[23-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that trump will likely get re-elected at this rate just because the economy is "fine"


[23-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
even though it's clearly not


[23-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
A recession is imminent according to several indicators


[23-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also needs to withstand impeachment first.


[23-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
again though, US, and the entirety of old West did this shit for literal centuries.


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
third world people can be useful tools, but that's all they are, and everyone understands that.


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the recession is already here


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the market just hasn't crashed yet


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
this is, agian, something that's been forever.


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
it may not crash at all


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not gonna change with Trump, I wouldn't expect it to.


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's nothing new.


[23-Oct-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scale is important. this wasn;t just past america. This was america as the world;s super power


[23-Oct-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
we fucked it all up with bush


[23-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
my mom's stance on the economy is "jobs are up, profits are up, economy's great, except under obama, economy was horrible under obama for all 8 years"


[23-Oct-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
junior


[23-Oct-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is just stomping on the ashes


[23-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh btw


[23-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
about the Canadian election


[23-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently BQ's win is largely *because* they're anti-immigrant


[23-Oct-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So no, alt right didn't get yeeted, @Gordon Freeman


[23-Oct-19 01:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/21/we-cant-remain-indifferent-chile-trade-unions-call-general-strike-support-student

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"We Can't Remain Indifferent": Chile Trade Unions Call for General...
"Something's not right with this country and 14-year-olds were the first ones to say so—now it's workers' turn to say enough is enough."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/chile_kids.jpg


[23-Oct-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just switched to wanting Quebec to go independent so that there could be even more racism.


[23-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess in an area where signs in English are seen as a disgrace, it's to be expected.


[23-Oct-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
heard this hot take today


[23-Oct-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> Listen, global warming isn't going to kill us. Nazis are going to kill us, then climate change is going to kill the nazis.
> And then there will be no more humans, just like the Nazis want.

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[23-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
the biggest brain.


[23-Oct-19 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
need an emote for supreme brainpower.

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[23-Oct-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Devon_OnEarth/status/1186677934880444417?s=19

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Feels like I'm knockin on Devon's door (@Devon_OnEarth)
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[23-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
it is. The joys and art of presentation.


[23-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/Fireworks-fly-at-Sevier-County-Commission-meeting--563596251.html

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"I was incensed:" Woman who walked out of Sevier Co. meeting speak...
Comments made by a Sevier County Commissioner sparked anger and support at a meeting on Monday night.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/woman5.JPG


[23-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
'"We got a queer running for president, if that ain't about as ugly as you can get," he said. "Look what we got running for president in the Democratic party. We can go over here to Hoss's jail [Sevier County Sheriff] and get better people out of there than those running for democratic, to be President of the United States."'


[23-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How could you get mad at Pete


[23-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
These people are mad that gays exist and can wield power.


[23-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what Pete's actual policies are.


[23-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not entirely convinced he was born, I think he may be an android.


[23-Oct-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indiana: Become Gay

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[23-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
what is 'gun sanctuary'?


[23-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well on the surface level, it's a conservative mimic of a liberal idea


[23-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
that of cities that don't actively help find immigrants because they aren't required to, and provide them with basic services so they stay healthy and don't die


[23-Oct-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
how does one make the connection between guns and immigrants


[23-Oct-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that analogy makes no sense


[23-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
as opposed to cities that go about tearing apart communities and causing the death or malnourishment of children


[23-Oct-19 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but eh, conservatism isn't supposed to anyway


[23-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
all in pursuit of a misguided goal of enforcement of a law designed to prevent ANY immigration.


[23-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, on a deeper level um...


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe the idea is to not expend resources to comply with *state* gov't stuff


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's a naive interpretation of what "rights" actually are, all based on cultural signifiers


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, anyone else, can you corroborate this?


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's just plain illegal, unlike sanctuary cities


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of it works at the state level


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
to oppose federal stuff


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/467029-cnn-biden-likened-clinton-impeachment-to-partisan-lynching-in-1990s

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CNN: Biden likened Clinton impeachment to 'partisan lynching' in 1998
White House hopeful Joe Biden has condemned President Trump for likening the impeachment inquiry to a "lynching," though he made a similar comparison when describing the impeachment investigation against former President Bill Clinton.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_101719getty.jpg


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's a way to get a fight in SCOTUS


[23-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oof


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, this is part of why I don't like Biden


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's *not* a reasonable Dem


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's the exact same thing as Republicans but reversed


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Figure that I would mention this again


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's part of the problem.


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Biden had done what he did in law school in the 70s now


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, Bill Clinton's impeachment was basicallly his opponents making a fuss out of what was supposed to be a personal affair


[23-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He would have never ever been admitted to the bar


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
unless i'm reading it wrong


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it was


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Bill lied under oath, and Republicans at the time made it out that even if he didn't commit a crime, he could still be removed


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
`The "sanctuary" nomenclature is an allusion to sanctuary cities, jurisdictions that have resolved to not assist federal enforcement of immigration laws against illegal aliens`


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they're saying the opposite


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
how accurate is this?


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
wiki quote.


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's correct.


[23-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The semantics aren't really debated.


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
so, this is somehow legal?


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of US law is that states are not required **in any way** to help the federal gov't


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the FBI asks Indiana where the terrorists are


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indiana can just say no.


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they ask for an office, it can just say no.


[23-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Come in and pay for it yourself, we're not helping you"


[23-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as the states are concerned, the federal gov't has jurisdiction, but no power, within them.


[23-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can go around arresting people all it wants, but the states don't hav to do shit for it.


[23-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory, the states could tell the feds to fukk off entirely as long as they later send the criminals to it, I think.


[23-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho that'd be a big court fight.


[23-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, cities are under state authority.


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if San Francisco decides to giv ID cards to non-citizens


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they can get free school lunches


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and be enrolled in Medi-cal


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's California's business


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it can say yes.


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when ICE comes and says STOP THIS, it can say "yeah fukk off"


[23-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
that's both messed-up and sorta reasonable in a way that only exists in fantasy.


[23-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, ICE can figure out where the immigrants are, arrest them, subject them to inhumane conditions etc.


[23-Oct-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it can't get California to tell it where they are.


[23-Oct-19 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what happens when California tries to impede the feds from arresting the immigrants though


[23-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, subjecting people to inhumane conditions is unconstitutional


[23-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that hasn't stopped the Trump administration


[23-Oct-19 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah US politicians are just tap dancing on top of the constitution right now


[23-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
not many lawyers around to represent immigrants...especially when the administration lies about where said immigrants are and tries to hide them so the lawyers can't find them.


[23-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
if people didn't want them in so badly, why'd they let them in in the first place? Never understood this, really.


[23-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immigration policy used to be based largely on ports


[23-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which dealt with many non-white ethnicities harshly


[23-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
while the land borders had more-accepted temporary workers from Canada and Mexico


[23-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But eventually most barriers on race were peeled away


[23-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the massive influx from overseas dwindled


[23-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the middle of the 20th century, immigration policy was rather lax cause of the cold war


[23-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
note that WWII caused much of current international law on refugees, largely designed around not repeating stuff like turning away a boat full of jews to the nazis


[23-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The west saw it as a leg up over the Soviets morally to accept more refugees


[23-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as part of this, with Russia going after Asia, the US gov't put out propaganda that was designed to make people view Asians as equal to whites, but better at math


[23-Oct-19 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, that was one reason behind the brain drain that befell the East German socialist regime across the Cold War


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
people just kept crossing over into West Berlin and applying as refugees


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it was pretty non-controversial to accept immigrants who went thru proper channels coming to work


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
also things became harder after the Berlin Wall was erected


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
When South Vietnam fell, many US-aligned Vietnamese crammed onto aircraft carriers


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the aircaft were pushed out into the sea to make room.


[23-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut


[23-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon had started a very racist trend in the Republican party


[23-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Southern Strategy focused on taking hold of conservatives in the South, who felt abandoned by the Democrats after LBJ signed civil rights law


[23-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea was quite simple


[23-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats would oppose racism, following LBJ's lead


[23-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would do nothing.


[23-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racists would flee to Republicans, who also still enjoyed large majorities in the North


[23-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Nixon and Reagan had very easy election wins


[23-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, that racism was *mostly* directed towards blakks


[23-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and racism towards Asians was pretty much eliminated by all that propaganda


[23-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but some of it was directed towards Mexicans


[23-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as it turned out, Mexico and surrounding countries just are messed up economically


[23-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So every now and then, one of them has a huge burst of refugees pouring out


[23-Oct-19 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a lot of it being the US's fault too


[23-Oct-19 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
dictatorships and whatnot


[23-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with the Soviets on the waning side in the 80s, George HW Bush was more interested in keeping Latin America conservative than letting in brown people


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He supported dictatorships, as CIA director, and eventually president


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
In their efforts to stop primarily liberals.


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah...


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when refugees poured in


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and when one dictator became too unruly for him to handle


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Noriega in Panama that is


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he came up with new gotchas in policy that let them excude people


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he booted him out


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
One such policy is the one foot on land policy


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
to score an easy PR victory


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is, if refugees leave Cuba


[23-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are found in the sea


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't apply for asylum


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
since they didn't make it.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"i took down this tyrant and restored democracy to this Latin American nation"


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can just be tossed into Cuba to be **killed**.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And SCOTUS said this is in line with international law


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite being EXACTLY what the whole shebang was originally about with the boat full of jews.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what if their shoes are wet when they land


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
that wasn't what I asked about though.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If one foot reached shore


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
they don't want refugees NOW.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they were allowed to apply for asylum.


[23-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm getting to NOW


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what is the measure for "on land" and "on water" here


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this has been policy now for nearly 40 years


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
so what's the problem? Tell them 'go away or we shoot you'. They ignore it, you shoot them.


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But furthering this


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
if they happen to retalliate in any way - couple HE shells would disperse any crowd.


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
many Republicans do not want legal immigration of brown people


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
solved.


[23-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
or of poor people


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also firing HE shells at children is morally abhorrent, but I'm talking about the why of policy, not "well couldn't we just MURDER everyone who isn't us?"


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, furthering this


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure that stemmed a lot of Cuban immigration


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but every now and then, Mexico or such will send people who make it to the border legally


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
who pass all the chekks


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
who want to work hard


[23-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but are brown


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and such people upset people in the South


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're different, and they are competitors for jobs.


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And immigration kept increasing.


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
you called Republicans the roof of all evil.


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
'morally abhorrent' doesn't apply


[23-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
and it gets _results_


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, fast forward to today


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal immigration has been murdered.


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't mean people in Mexico don't want to come.


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lucrative market forms in the absence of gov't action.


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
People smugglers


[23-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The land border is HUGE


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of it is DESSERT


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and much of it that isn't pure dessert has a river at the actual border


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and by treaty, neither side can build on its banks


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
as that'd artificially affect its flow


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
At places, you can easily walk across.


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So since the legal entry is basically gone


[23-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
people enter illegally, easily.


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Republicans would love to fire HE shells at immigrant children


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but doing so would be a bridge too far for many


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
so much for root of all evil.


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
evil but indecisive.


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican strategy on migrants is to do things in a very obfuscated way


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, build a shelter


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
put in air conditioning


[23-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
again, much like abandoning the Kurds. All the bad PR and no results.


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
turn it down to 55 F


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
put in all the children


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
wait until they're dying to take them to the hospital


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's... convoluted.


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
when several die


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can then blame them coming across


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying they were sikk to begin with


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying that you did all you could


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It obfuscates your moral culpability


[23-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But at the same time, to immigrants and racists the message is clear


[23-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
but should you though? The rest of the world doesn't care too much, half the population hates you no matter what you do or say because 'orange man bad'


[23-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Brown children who come across will die."


[23-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize here, that Dems don't just hate immigration enforcement in the abstract


[23-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a certain amount they accept


[23-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama deported people in large amounts, but his administration had few child deaths in its facilities


[23-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans are doing under Trump is slowly turning the dial


[23-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
to cause more and more suffering of immigrants


[23-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just enuff to not make congress act against Trump.


[23-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And at times, they turned it too far at once


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you hav, like, *Tara Strong* on her twitter saying that the president is murdering children, well, that's not exactly what they want.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
congress acting aganst Trump is kinda forgone conclusion.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people like her normally stay out of politics.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, it is.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But earlier even this year, it was not.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why there's tons of illegal immigrants in America.


[23-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump strategy is to destroy legal routes to immigrate


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and at the same time, make illegal immigration a miserable affair.


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, I should note


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's goal isn't to stop illegal immigration.


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stopping it would be bad for him.


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
He gains votes from racists by talking up fears


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
like fear of large quantities of illegal immigrants.


[23-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as he can maintain an illegal immigration crisis, it gains him support from his base.


[23-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
right. I didn't think of that.


[23-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that, more than anything, explains the lack of decisive action.


[23-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also note, when he talks about it, and how Democrats are clearly stopping him from stopping it etc. etc., he likes to use the deaths of children caused by his policies *to his advantage*


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll talk about how women are being hurt, raped even by people smugglers


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how the solution obviously is to build a wall


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
a free discussion point.


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
a consistent one.


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, a politician's dream


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, he causes suffering, then uses it as a reason to support what he's doing.


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this makes sense.


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the biggest "trikk" to American politics.


[23-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works the same with terrorists


[23-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
more dead terrorists = more votes


[23-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to get dead terrorists, you must first create living ones


[23-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
To create living terrorists, you must make civilians in vulnerable regions hate the US


[23-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you say there might be a terrorist here, then you bomb the civilians


[23-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
those that survive hate you for killing their family...and so become terrorists.


[23-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Peace in the middle east would be a disaster for Trump's support.


[23-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
His generals would love it, but his base would be unafraid, less apt to want intervention in the region, and ultimately, would just be mad that the region is allowed to flourish.


[23-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[23-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's cabinet told him that aid to Honduras is critical to reducing immigration from it, and is cheaper than dealing with the immigration caused by a lakk of it.


[23-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump responded by completely eliminating such aid.


[23-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, Trump isn't the brightest bulb, but he certainly knows at least a few things.


[23-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a final note on this matter


[23-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many Republicans, including Trump, benefit from illegal immigrants as laborers


[23-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They ask for a very low wage


[23-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and when shit goes bad at work, they can't report incidents without ending up deported


[23-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine the ability to *remove your employee from the country* if they disagree with working conditions.


[23-Oct-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the US's radical islam problem is self inflicted


[23-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are doing exactly the right things to get what they want.


[23-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's pretty convenient.


[23-Oct-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
how can you sell arms to iran and not expect them to end up in the hands of the people who will use them to terrorize civilians


[23-Oct-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
and then use that to radicalize them against the west


[23-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, did you see what Republicans planned to do with the census, @Opponent?


[23-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
_Peace in the middle east would be a disaster for Trump's support._
yet he's spoken many times of pulling out of the middle east or do you think that was a lie to get votes?


[23-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pulling out doesn't cause peace.


[23-Oct-19 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
he explains this above


[23-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yes, it gets votes.


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
neither does staying there cause peace either


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's pulling out from the Kurds because they suppress IS


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey and IS expanding recreates a crisis


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
which gets votes from air strikes on IS


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and allows for more terrorist generation


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
Turkey especially, with their history and seeming dedication by Erdogan to claim their heritage.


[23-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, terrorist threats to kill are a resource.


[23-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A resource that becomes votes.


[23-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
IS in the syria/iraq region is more or less wiped out. those that remain there either want to go home or join a different isis cell in another part of the world


[23-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm totally sure that'll persist after the Kurds, the greatest thing keeping them down, are all dead


[23-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Turkey has freshly angered the muslims in the region.


[23-Oct-19 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, a lot of reports are flooding in about jihadists escaping prisons


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like this huge instability and violence will result in more terrorism.


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And joining the Free Syrian Army


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I doubt these will ammount to much tho, i don't expect a resurge in ISIS activity


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, about the census


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Considering that Assad and the Kurds are in an open alliance now


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think that pulling out was a deliberate move on Trump's part to gain votes btw


[23-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So @Opponent, every 10 years, US does an approximate total count of the people, for purposes like districting the House of Representatives


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it just so happens that Erdogan bullied him into it


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, last census, Republicans won big


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they came into power right as it came up with new districts


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning they could choose how to draw them


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
state legislature decides district lines


[23-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Party in charge of it at the time will draw lines to benefit itself


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
software had matured by this point to allow computer-generated ideal gerrymandering


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why in some states


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats can win 60% of the vote


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
yet get less than 50% of the seats in the state legislature and house of representatives


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think the commissions for drawing county borders to regulate gerrymandering should be a joint state-federal affair


[23-Oct-19 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could be a solution in a way


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so a Republican gerrymandering guru came up with a new plan for 2020


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you could just magically reduce the estimated population of Democrat-held areas


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you can gerrymander even harder in many states


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And many Democrat-held areas are cities in the South


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
full of immigrants


[23-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
many illegal


[23-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So first, you make the argument that *voting* population should be used, not total population


[23-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut what if you could double dip too?


[23-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only do you say x% are illegals, so they get removed from the districting tally


[23-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you make it so they aren't counted in the census to begin with


[23-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you remove them *twice*.


[23-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This plan appears to hav made it to Trump.


[23-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, not only was the Trump administration questioning the inclusion of noncitizens in determining districting


[23-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were also going forward with a plan to include an "Are you a citizen? [WE TOTES PROMISE NOT TO TATTLE ON YOU TO OURSELVES AND ROUND YOU UP]" question on the census


[23-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Nice.


[23-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this had all gone forward, every illegal immigrant would be essentially able to counteract the existence of up to one actual citizen for counting purposes, for some damn powerful gerrymandering.


[23-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would've held until 2030


[23-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, on bouth counts, they were rebutted.


[23-Oct-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This harkens back to the old debate about slaves being counted on censuses iirc


[23-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the census question in particular, SCOTUS said that the reasoning was clearly pretextual, and that that's invalid, so unless they produce a valid reasoning, it shouldn't be done.


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was the 3/5s rule, which rules that one slave counted on the census as 60% of a free man


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump on twitter considered *just ignoring that*, but thankfully didn't go thru with it.


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
@everyone yeah for the same purpose of inflating the owner's voting power.


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's funny is that SCOTUS is packed with conservatives rn


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yet it's somehow keeping more or less balanced rulings


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts cares about the court's reputation, so he often moderates himself a little.


[23-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS recently revisited the gerrymandering question


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe they know Trump is going down, and want to distance themselves


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
would be a smart move.


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
after many lower courts threw out Republican-drawn maps that were clearly not okay


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maps that literally couldn't be more favorable to them.


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS finally ruled on the matter of *how* to decide when gerrymandering is too far: Don't.


[23-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, consider the question of how too political


[23-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
ignore all the math and science done to try to quantify the problem


[23-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
neglect judicial duties and just...let whichever party is in power gerrymander to its heart's content.


[23-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And today, they affirmed that ruling.


[23-Oct-19 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[23-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
By once again saying you can't throw out a map just because it's clearly been rigged against another party.


[23-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bruh indeed, @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-wipes-out-michigan-partisan-gerrymander-ruling-n1069476

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Supreme Court wipes out ruling on Michigan partisan gerrymander
The court had already declared in June that such challenges involve an essentially political issue, beyond the authority of federal courts to resolve.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_43/3061656/191021-scotus-mn-1155_cf04ace46f56c625e6317444d494278a.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[23-Oct-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It feels like SCOTUS is ruling more than the legislative and even the executive


[23-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[23-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still function, Congress really doesn't anymore.


[23-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive isn't supposed to decide things at all, but...when Congress doesn't, it has to.


[23-Oct-19 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US seems to already be on the path to some kind of autocracy, only that the succession to the tyrant is still subject to democratic process


[23-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Macarou#9574
Democratic autocracy,my goodness, that sounds odd.


[23-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, on Clinton vs. Trump for impeachment https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-disapproved-of-clintons-behavior-but-not-enough-to-impeach-him/

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Why Trump’s Impeachment Might Be Different Than Clinton’s
In the fall of 1998, it seemed like President Clinton was in trouble. An investigation by independent counsel Kenneth Starr had uncovered an affair between the …
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/CLINTON-IMPEACHMENT-16x9.png?w=575


[23-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/taste-of-the-climate-apocalypse-to-come

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A Taste of the Climate Apocalypse to Come — ProPublica
PG&E’s rolling blackouts probably don’t eliminate fire risk, and they actually could make responding to fires harder. What they largely do is shift responsibility away from the company.
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[23-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow


[23-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic theatre.


[23-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never realized how unpopular impeaching Clinton was


[23-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans as a whole are anti-impeachment


[23-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
they see it as usurping the vote


[23-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
on Clinton's matter, they saw Republicans as intruding on his private life for political reasons.


[23-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment was not popular for Nixon until very late, and never was for Clinton.


[23-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It being popular now for Trump is a **big deal**


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
Clinton's issue was minor, Trump has done a lot worse.


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Nixon still had a popularity of 50% in polling of the month he resigned


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
still, the partizan divide now seems to be the greatest ever.


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Independents seem to mostly want removal


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump still doesn't seem to get that he won because of Obama to Trump voters, not people who go to his rallies


[23-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize as well, Its


[23-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know you like to say HE COMMITTED PERJURY THO but like


[23-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The circumstances were he was caught on a minor transgression that could drag down all his political efforts


[23-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason we hav the 5th amendment.


[23-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Personally admitting to shit that may not even be a real problem criminally just turns things to shit.


[23-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Perjury is a really, really hard charge to bring


[23-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, nigh impossible


[23-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things should always be in the realm of the gov't noticing bad effects going on, building its own case, and slamming you in with all the evidence you did it.


[23-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not going on a trawling expedition to find that you weren't the model of a modern major general and getting you to say on live TV you had sexual relations with that woman.


[23-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Opponent#3498
so yeah, hindsight does make it look like a partizan attack


[23-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was seen as pretty partisan at the time.


[23-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's funny tho is Republicans broke ranks to acquit.


[23-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man I guess the "ticket to an impeachment trial" market will fall out in the next few months


[23-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Currently one goes for about $300


[23-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
how the fuck that would work?


[23-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-BILL-CLINTON-SENATE-IMPEACHMENT-TRIAL-TICKET-PASS-1st-DAY-Jan-7-1999/123649572107?hash=item1cca16bd0b:g:6CMAAOSwSL5caFEk

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[23-Oct-19 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
As far as I understand it people aren't in favor of impeachment for Trump because they hate what he's doing, they just don't like that he's drawing too much attention to it


[23-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, Republicans that think he's besmirching their image?


[23-Oct-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
sort of, but in a really twisted way


[23-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's it


[23-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican support for impeachment is low


[23-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all on Independents


[23-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah, at this point Trump is bad for everyone


[23-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
it's much easier to do whatever you want and abuse whoever you want, when some moron is NOT shining a gigantic spotlight in your face all the time


[23-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/22/20927186/facebook-attorneys-general-letitia-james

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Almost every state in the country is now investigating Facebook
What will they find?
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[23-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
47 attorneys general


[23-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467045-graham-to-introduce-resolution-condemning-house-impeachment-inquiry

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Graham to introduce resolution condemning House impeachment inquiry
Sen.
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[23-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Nebbie ehhhhhhh on some issues maybe not not the environment


[23-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The important thing is


[23-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ccp got yeeted


[23-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
PPC


[23-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But do realize, the greens allowed racist candidates in Quebec


[23-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and BQ won on racism.


[23-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
NDP, which had an Indian guy leading, faltered because of that


[23-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quebec basically has gone fully racist now


[23-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
PPC dying on the side is...unimportant.


[23-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only hope is libs learn their lesson and team up with NDP for actual equality and environmental protection agains conservatives and BQ


[23-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile in the US https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-mexico-school-resource-officer-resigns-after-being-caught-video-n1070256

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New Mexico school resource officer caught on video allegedly rough...
“There’s no excuse for the way this girl was treated,” the Farmington police chief said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_01/2705191/nbc-social-default_b6fa4fef0d31ca7e8bc7ff6d117ca9f4.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.png


[23-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, article on the Canada thing, https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/analysis-in-a-race-with-only-losers-the-liberals-managed-to-lose-the-least

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Analysis: In a race with only losers, Trudeau’s Liberals managed...
Richard Warnica: It’s not just that no one seemed capable of winning. It’s that they all looked at times like they were actively trying to lose
https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/2121-4.jpg


[23-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eeeh I wouldn't really say secularism is raceist


[23-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Richard Warnica: It’s not just that no one seemed capable of winning. It’s that they all looked at times like they were actively trying to lose'


[23-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Secularism?


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
I had my hopes up for the Sikh. That would have been rad if he won.


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next to impossible.


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I guess X-years more of basic-bitch liberalism


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Waiting in those green policies to take effect, Trudeau


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think I'd really call Trudeau a liberal at this point


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
How many more pipelines are you going to buy


[23-Oct-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He tried to stop one of his cabinet members from investigating an oil company's wrongdoing.


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the guy seems to only show token support to the natives etc.


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's like Macron I think


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pragmatic moderate


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't actually hav any real goals except to stay in power


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
So still


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
A liberal


[23-Oct-19 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Good to know


[23-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, he's just conservative-lite.


[23-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything actually happened he'd put the arabs in the camps in a heartbeat.


[23-Oct-19 06:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Liberal philosophy never extended to native people's, Nebbie. Liberal philosophy leaves the freedom for business people to do what they want.


[23-Oct-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's neoliberal


[23-Oct-19 06:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Liberal philosophy was written by the same buisines types to validate themselves.


[23-Oct-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which he certainly is.


[23-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He isn't that bad


[23-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Our eccomey is still good


[23-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your economy is good because your country is polluting the environment instead of fixing the problems.


[23-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And native peoples are still in massive poverty.


[23-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially Stephen Harper's damage will never be undone at this rate.


[23-Oct-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada will just be America 2: Slightly less bad.


[23-Oct-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But with more oil.


[23-Oct-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Canada stands to benefit greatly from becoming warmer etc.


[23-Oct-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, it's irresponsible.


[23-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ontario is a clean province


[23-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it won't be filling up with smog


[23-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but those carbon emissions are everyone's problems.


[23-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Canada's just gonna pretend they're not.


[23-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also I've been to some if the first nations land


[23-Oct-19 06:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They are not as bad as everyone says they are


[23-Oct-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vancouver was never ceded. Soveriegnty never surrendered.


[23-Oct-19 06:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Well no thats why we are resisting the pipeline and have the carbon tax


[23-Oct-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Banish all Canadians from the west coast


[23-Oct-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada needs to stop building pipelines.


[23-Oct-19 06:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Kinda is fucking up Alberta tho


[23-Oct-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau doesn't want it to stop.


[23-Oct-19 06:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats why we need to buld more jobs out there


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[23-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
what on earth...


[23-Oct-19 12:29 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I love the fact that kid shows offend adults


[23-Oct-19 12:29 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like one having LGBT


[23-Oct-19 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ppl are easilly offended these days


[23-Oct-19 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Fuckin pussies

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[23-Oct-19 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[23-Oct-19 12:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why are people still racist and homophobic


[23-Oct-19 12:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They feel like a different human race


[23-Oct-19 12:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they have too much free time


[23-Oct-19 12:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't have the energy to be angry at things like that

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[23-Oct-19 12:38 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
like I don't have a reason to be both of those


[23-Oct-19 12:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I think im both of those


[23-Oct-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
13 minutes until the president says something stupid again


[23-Oct-19 04:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is there presentation at next hour?


[23-Oct-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's holding a scheduled press thing, yes


[23-Oct-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he needs an audience to be stupid to


[23-Oct-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/elizabeth-warren-corporate-america-055142

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[23-Oct-19 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
> She has taken sharpest aim at the private equity industry, introducing the “Stop Wall Street Looting Act of 2019” that would essentially wipe out some of the industry’s most lucrative practices.


[23-Oct-19 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
most lucrative frauds*


[23-Oct-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://pressley.house.gov/sites/pressley.house.gov/files/Stop%20Wall%20Street%20Looting%20Act%20One%20Pager.pdf


[23-Oct-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is taking his sweet ass time gettign to the podium


[23-Oct-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is lifting the turkey sanctions
Fuck the kurds, we have the syrian oil!


[23-Oct-19 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he;s blaming immigration


[23-Oct-19 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AdamRamsay/status/1186391863026163713

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https://twitter.com/AdamRamsay/status/1186391863026163713
Ok, we’re talking about Attenborough.  In 2013, he argued that Ethiopians should be allowed to starve to death because there are, apparently, too many of them. https://t.co/rWj0Ej3uTJ
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[23-Oct-19 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Oct-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
top meme


[23-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
at least he's honest about it xD

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[23-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
ok, riddle me this.


[23-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
'It's not overpopulation that is a concern, it's the rich people. Always the rich people'. Let's remove that from the equation. Isn't growing population implies more resource consumption (all other things equal-ish) implies more demand for resources implies harsher exploitation of them?


[23-Oct-19 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
in similar concept, isn't waves of immigration and sharp rize of the rock-bottom tier population implies rising of crime, harsher bottom-tier job competition (not a good thing for those opposing the 'rich white men'), and general decline in quality of life for everyone? Trivial concerns like consumables and basic infrastructure can be solved, and the super long-term proepects (20+ years) might be beneficial, but most people would want to live 'here and now' I'd think.


[23-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
consider the sharp population rise in countries like nigeria


[23-Oct-19 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
despite having millions and millions of individuals most of them pose little to no threat in terms of problematic resource consumption


[23-Oct-19 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
because they flat out don't consume that much at all to begin with


[23-Oct-19 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, because they consume so little individually. And while they live in close to stone age, it will remain to be so.


[23-Oct-19 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[23-Oct-19 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
so does that answer your question?


[23-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of but not really. This implies they _will_ remain to be so.


[23-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
...then again.


[23-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a thing of the 'here and now' variety.


[23-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467092-republicans-storm-into-house-hearing-to-break-up-trump-impeachment-testimony

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Republicans storm closed-door hearing to protest impeachment inquiry
House Republicans stormed a closed-door hearing Wednesday morning to protest Democrats' impeachment inquiry process, breaking up the deposition of a top Defense Department official who was testifying about President Trump's dealings with Ukraine.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/impeachment_house_gop_102319gn3_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
_NOW_ they pose little issue.


[23-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
and things need to be done _now_ or there might not be a _long-term_


[23-Oct-19 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I guess it does.


[23-Oct-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
nigeria doesn't have much in terms of wealth


[23-Oct-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
of course they have a ruling class there and yes their ruling class is just as bad if not worse than the ruling class in the rest of the world, but the living conditions are much less sophisticated


[23-Oct-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
...and with environment it's not 'done and done', you need changes in core philosophy of production (and consumption) that will _stick_, to really make a difference. And, provided they're done right, they'll scale well to a Nigeria-capital of the New Age 50 years from now.


[23-Oct-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
the other point you brought up (about the rise of the working class) is just another way that the wealthy exploit our psychology, perhaps even unknowingly, to pit us against each other for their own personal benefit


[23-Oct-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
because in our societies 🤡 the wealthy own the means of production, they are able to determine, for the most part, who works and how much compensation they should receive. it also turns out that humans are naturally competitive and often resist the formation of unions if there is a personal benefit by the wealthy offered in return (the reason why strikebreakers/scabs exist to begin with)


[23-Oct-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
the ruling class break the backs of the working class for their own benefit at our expense


[23-Oct-19 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
good personal 'here and now', vs uncertain collective 'maybe better in the future, question mark'. Yeah, understandable.


[23-Oct-19 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-10-23-2019/index.html

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The latest on the Trump impeachment inquiry: Live updates
The impeachment inquiry into President Trump continues in the House. Follow here for the latest news.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190924132558-01-trump-file-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
still, though. Under current conditions, short- to mid-term prospects of waves of immigration seem to be largely negative. The conditions aren't ideal, but on the individual level that's what everyone got to work with.


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
two dozen GOP congressmen barged into a closed-session


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Population actually grows in large part due to *lakk* of resources.


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
With their phones, note.


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Into a room you're not allowed to bring phones into


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
because sensitive national security info could leak


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want Nigeria smaller, then giv everyone enuff food and access to medical care


[23-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
giv them free abortions and Netflix


[23-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
they'll hav a shrinking population within 20 years.


[23-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's true.


[23-Oct-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent there's no reason for immigration to be a negative for places like the US, which has so much land and so many resources the government pays the owners of capital _not_ to overproduce


[23-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, maybe a bit longer due to longer lifespan from the medical access, but it's the way to do it.


[23-Oct-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
There's also no reason we should have such a large homeless or prison population either


[23-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
> "You storm in here claiming to stand up for justice, but there are people in your districts suffering who you don’t even know their names" Demings said of the Republicans, according to a source. "There’s people dying every day if gun violence in your districts and you’re silent on that."


[23-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
this is why some hate democrats tho. This is pure populism.


[23-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
pure emotions.


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize what the concern is actually about


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are saying gun violence kills people and that's wrong


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav a tendency to emotionally go for policies that kill brown people


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
many things kill people. Gun violence, last time I checked, is a tiny, tiny percentage of the total.


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats aren't less emotional than Republicans


[23-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They use compassion instead of fear


[23-Oct-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Empathy


[23-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Compassion leads to more rational policy, because you're looking at what fixes things


[23-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
fear leads to policy that involves dangerous cycles that produce violence


[23-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I suppose this is fair.


[23-Oct-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, you're right that gun violence isn't a large percentage of deaths caused


[23-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone got a video of the GOP crashing the party


[23-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/wDsAn_u70tw

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Oliver Cromwell - King Charles Storms House Of Commons
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson Oliver Cromwell awaits (Cromwell 1970) More Cromwell drama here: https://www.youtu...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wDsAn_u70tw/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Obesity, smoking, alcohol, and motor vehicles cause far more


[23-Oct-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
The difference is that those aren't major sources of domestic terrorism


[23-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also Democrats try to do things on all of those too


[23-Oct-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone dying of type 2 diabeetus isn't the same as a shooter bursting into a school and unloading on the classrooms


[23-Oct-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans only very recently got on board about smoking, seemingly due to vaping as a new threat


[23-Oct-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
The impression I get is that they're trying to ban vaping, because smoking is "healthier"...


[23-Oct-19 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Talk about stupid, jesus


[23-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big tobacco lobby is powerful.


[23-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even as its industry dies.


[23-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of is? Much like smoking hookah is actually more harmful than cigarettes.


[23-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not


[23-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
vaping is demonstrably a healthier alternative to smoking cigarettes in every way except one


[23-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't smoke cyanide and vitamin E.


[23-Oct-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't release carcinogens into your lungs


[23-Oct-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't emit tar


[23-Oct-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't emit carcinogens into the air


[23-Oct-19 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't pollute the surroundings with toxic smoke


[23-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the one way it isn't healthier is that juul pods contain far more concentrated nicotine than cigarettes do, and the degree to which that is less healthy is up for debate


[23-Oct-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, bootlegs full of vitamin E and stuff that turns into hydrogen cyanide when heated.


[23-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
higher nicotine tolerance doesn't seem to be nearly as big a problem as people dying from lung cancer


[23-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't vape bootleg pot vapes.


[23-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My concern is generally on the grounds of the lack of regulation on the juices meaning they could have god knows what that's not been tested on people properly


[23-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully regulation is surgical, but...


[23-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
tobacco lobby.


[23-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are we'll get a bunch of broad bans.


[23-Oct-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
the labeled branded juices are fine and contain no problematic substances


[23-Oct-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
it's the black market ones that can contain just about anything


[23-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Teaspoon yeah that too is a concern. Although, considering the difference in rolled tobacco cigs from natural tobacco, and 'things' that you buy in stores, well, god knows what's in the cigs either.


[23-Oct-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
same issue is how people who think they're taking heroin die so often (it had something they didn't expect, like fentanyl)


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just imagining that 10 years down the line we figure out the candy-smelling stuff they added bonds with copper in your blood in a funny way and gives people early onset dementia or gout or whatever the hell


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, only time will _really_ tell.


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd still be safer than cigarettes.


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rate they cause cancer is ridiculous.


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
it mostly decarboxylates into CO2 and fatty acids


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they destroy your lung function all the while.


[23-Oct-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
both of which are safe to consume


[23-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they do it to your kids too, which is the really big deal.


[23-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
People start smoking young


[23-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
often right as they enter adulthood, before having kids


[23-Oct-19 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
"Hey kid, want some death sticks?"


[23-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty harsh branding for kitkats


[23-Oct-19 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/G1EkOsY8p_8

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Death Sticks
Jedi mind tricks only work on weak minds. From Episode II Attack Of The Clones.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G1EkOsY8p_8/hqdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd forgotten about that movie entirely


[23-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I just love how blatant the analogy is.


[23-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The flying car scenes are coming back to me now


[23-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time it was seen as heavy-handed


[23-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's aged very well.


[23-Oct-19 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
heh, people who bash prequels just don't understand.


[23-Oct-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/467108-trump-attorney-president-could-shoot-someone-on-fifth-avenue-and-not

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Trump lawyer says president couldn't be prosecuted for shooting so...
An attorney for President Trump told a federal appeals court Wednesday that Trump could not be prosecuted even if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue in New York amid a legal fight that seems destined for the Supreme Court.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_101119getty_0.jpg


[23-Oct-19 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean you would be impeached and removed within days and then you would be so


[23-Oct-19 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh


[23-Oct-19 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Didn't we joke about this same scenario


[23-Oct-19 07:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, Trump shooting a baby in public without risk of being arrested


[23-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump joked about it during his campaign, yes


[23-Oct-19 07:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck is this


[23-Oct-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, you really havn't been paying attention


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Trump's *campaign promise* to kill the families of our enemies?


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nope


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
"We'll go after their families"


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The slurry of disappointments and shock has been too great for me to remember


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that's the idea


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's Brave New World


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do a thousand evil things in a month


[23-Oct-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
nobody will remember half the horrible shit you promised to do or did


[23-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when Trump tweeted about defying SCOTUS on the census citizenship question?


[23-Oct-19 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Overwhelm your opponents with cringeworthy actions


[23-Oct-19 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The new right's favorite strategy it seems


[23-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
People call you a slob? Fart 10 times on live TV in one day.


[23-Oct-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
People call you fat? Eat a whole pizza during an interview.


[23-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same approach Boris Johnson uses


[23-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seem like such a joke nobody takes you seriously


[23-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except the people who know you're really there to kill brown people.


[23-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
People say you broke traffic law? Run a red light then litter then loiter then break a window.


[23-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, you can't arrest a sitting president.


[23-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time anyone would figure out which is even the worst action, you're on doing another bad thing.


[23-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And remember, bullshit is an order of magnitude harder to refute than to create.


[23-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's *always* playing catch up with Trump.


[23-Oct-19 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's worse is that his supporters' mentality allows this


[23-Oct-19 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everything's valid to "trigger the libs"


[23-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, remember when he was accused of illegally eating sensitive documents that likely would've proved obstruction of justice?


[23-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I just mentioned this in general talking about silly real shit.


[23-Oct-19 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds like something you'd do, Nebbie, lmao


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Vore


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, Trump tears up ALL DOCUMENTS that he reads on his desk.


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
When he doesn't want them archived afterwards by aides who tape them bakk together, he eats the pieces.


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is *illegal*


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
But nobody can stop him


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The president likely breaks the law three times a week at least


[23-Oct-19 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Presidential immunity sickens me


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, similar shit happened with Caesar in ancient Rome


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yet more proof presidents are treated like emperors when the founding fathers intended them to connect with the common man


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy became Consul off of populism, and actually had some good ideas to fix what was wrong


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuuut he broke the law tons of times to accomplish everything


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The notion of "imperial presidency" was nonexistent prior to the Gilded Age


[23-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And continued breaking it to genocide the Gauls


[23-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
But as long as someone had political office, they were completely immune from being put on trial or hurt by the state in ancient Rome


[23-Oct-19 07:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The White House was a public space, presidents lived normal lives, walked among the crowds, etc


[23-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't uncommon for senators to go around with armed thugs burning down houses when things got shitty


[23-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, Caesar ended up in a bind


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Caesar allegedly wanted to crown himself king


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
if he allowed his governorship to expire, he'd be put on trial and found guilty of like thirty different crimes


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of his former allies in fixing things was in the same position


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His nephew Octavian managed to do it, albeit the emperorship only very gradually became a royal title


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump has never made a joke ever


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were offers of immunity, but whoever gave up their title first would just be executed by the other, realistically


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So...civil war happened.


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
The "I can shoot someone and not lose votes" quip was not a joke


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar won.


[23-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
He was serious


[23-Oct-19 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh moment


[23-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, you can't giv people conditional immunity over time like this


[23-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
immunity has to be one and done


[23-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who has to retain power to retain immunity *will* try to retain power, to the bitter end.


[23-Oct-19 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[23-Oct-19 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once Trump is out, he'll be tried


[23-Oct-19 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or not, could be a Pinochet situation


[23-Oct-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/KajEriksen/status/1187040940629774336

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https://twitter.com/KajEriksen/status/1187040940629774336
@RepMattGaetz Hello mat, 
I’m a reporter with KLGX in Wisconsin. I’m doing a story on traitors to the United States. May I use your tweets?

And a quick question for my story, would you say you look more like your mother or your uncle?
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[23-Oct-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Now that's a bruh moment


[23-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/467125-documents-show-ukraine-knew-by-august-that-aid-was-being-withheld

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Documents show Ukraine knew by August that aid was being withheld: NYT
Ukraine knew by the beginning of August that the Trump administration was holding up military aid over President Trump's desire for Ukraine's president to open a criminal probe into former Vice President Joe Biden (D), according to documents and i
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_101119getty_0.jpg


[23-Oct-19 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's one talking point gone


[23-Oct-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50152383

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50152383
New Jersey pupils with lunch debt banned from prom
A school district in the US state rejects a businessman's offer to pay off pupils' debts.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/150B1/production/_109339168_schoollunch.jpg


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So once again


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
`illegally eating sensitive documents`


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm sorry, what?


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
poor people can't afford food


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent there's a low where all documents that go to the president's desk must then be archived.


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Aides must tape together torn-up documents after Trump reads them.


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So I heard Hillary emails came back they didn't find anything


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he *ate some* about Comey.


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Likely documents that would've incriminated him.


[23-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
jesus.


[23-Oct-19 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's something I did not expect to learn today.


[23-Oct-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And normally this would be unbelievable, but like, the stuff about him eating the torn-up pieces came from a separate source who worked in the WH than the aides who first said he tore up documents.


[23-Oct-19 08:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
How often does Trump destroy documents?


[23-Oct-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unknown.


[23-Oct-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The eating torn up pieces incident may hav been an isolated incident.


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both sources indicate he *normally* always tears up the documents, but that normally they are put bakk together afterwards.


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the NYT report really does say that Ukraine knew it was a qpq


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because of the CNN interview that Trump wanted


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, on the lunch thing, it's the same fukking story


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
A rich guy offered to pay the lunch debts


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the schoolboard turned it down


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
because how dare rich people step out to help poor people


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
even the Republican idea now is seen as not enuff


[23-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
of poor people only helped AT THE WHIM OF THE RICH


[23-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's poor people don't get helped at all.


[23-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like helping them is seen as a betrayal of your class or something.


[23-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a very bad trend.


[23-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea was "a one time payment won't address the problems that they have"


[23-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah the people who say because Ukraine didn't know about qpq in July means there couldn't have been one...yeah until like September there were negotiations trying to box Zelensky in


[23-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they knew for at least a month that they were being extorted


[23-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's just punishing poor people


[23-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's Malthusianism, @Itsthinking


[23-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
the belief that poor people are poor solely because they hav personal attitude issues


[23-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
to be solved by hard labor


[23-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
until they die like they should because they're poor.


[23-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
🇮🇪 🥔 ⚒ 💀 🗡 🇬🇧 💸 🤑 💰 🍞


[23-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully enough shaming school districts will work


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It never will


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There must be a low


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
schoolboard members that do this should face hefty fines.


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be paid out to the poor families.


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, lunch should be free to begin with.


[23-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
At every school.


[23-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize, no amount of shame makes Malthusians stop being Malthusians, @Itsthinking


[23-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an ideology.


[23-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Completely based around classism.


[23-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And *strongly* tied to religious beliefs.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's where logic without all the facts meets faith.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol at the people who think you need to say quid pro quo and shake hands three times for it to be that


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Jesus wash the feet of the poor?


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, God wouldn't make you poor if you were a good Christian etc.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jesus said that a rich person can no more enter heaven than a camel can fit thru the eye of a needle.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
But these people don't care about Jesus.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is just an excuse.


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfZEy8GGNqo

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PBS NewsHour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfZEy8GGNqo
WATCH: Trump lifts sanctions on Turkey and defends his Syria policy
President Donald Trump announced he is lifting sanctions that the U.S. imposed on Turkey days after they launched an offensive against Syrian Kurds. Trump sa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LfZEy8GGNqo/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
A deeply ingrained excuse.


[23-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is entirely to take to heart the lesson that God rewards being a good person


[23-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that anyone can make a business work


[23-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
tie them together


[23-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
the result: people in poverty must deserve it.


[23-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
the video is just sad... :sad:


[23-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The president should not hav the authority to lift sanctions.


[23-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor impose them.


[23-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, most Protestant thinking is based on not talking at all about Jesus and his actual teachings, @Itsthinking


[23-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
A fair bit of it in practice even focuses on Old Testament nonsense.


[23-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't get me started on the Midian loli sex slaves.


[23-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor Leviticus. Nor Soddom.


[23-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The super tl;dr is that if Moses was around today, the moral thing to do would be to shoot him IMMEDIATELY


[23-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
As many times as necessary to assure he is dead.


[23-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The picture coming out of it, based on the reporting that we've seen, I would say is not a good one. But I would say also that until we have a process that allows for everybody to see this in full transparency, it's pretty hard to draw an hard and fast conclusions."- Sen. Thune, Senate majority whip


[23-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic "there's some stuff hidden so you can't be the judge even tho what's public is damning!"


[23-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try to sway the court of public opinion by applying real court rules.


[23-Oct-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't tell any of these people what a grand jury is


[23-Oct-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
their heads will explode


[23-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like the people saying that Ukraine not knowing on July 25 that aid was being held up means something didn't read the Taylor testimony


[23-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They knew by the first week of September, when they _still were in negotiations and there was an attempt to box-in Zelenskyy_


[23-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The negotiations were still going on, "Go on CNN and say you're investigating Hunter Biden or no aid"


[23-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what Taylor was testifying about


[23-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah), a member of the Intelligence Committee who is allowed in the closed-door hearings, said leadership was trying to “resolve this amicably.”

“We want this to continue,” Stewart said, adding that Republicans are not trying to stop the hearing.

“We want to hear from this witness but so do the other members of Congress,” he said. “This may be within House rules, that’s not the question. The question is, is it a good idea to try and impeach the president in secret hearings?”


[23-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"This may be how it is supposed to be done, but my feelings are hurt"


[23-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie I sent that thing about the school district refusing the money from the businessman to my mom and said that the only logical conclusion was that the school board wanted to shame poor students


[23-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
she responded by saying that maybe the school board wanted students to take personal responsibility for their debts


[23-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[23-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's Malthusian.


[23-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
(as expected)


[23-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
remember she took that test thing and sent the result to me?


[23-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
it said she was ancap


[23-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=-2&3=-2&4=-2&5=-2&6=-2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=2&12=2&13=2&14=-1&16=-1&17=2&18=2&19=-2&20=-2&21=-2&22=2&23=2&24=2&25=-2&26=-2&27=2&28=2&29=-1&30=2&31=-1&32=-1&33=-2&34=-2&35=-2&36=-2&37=2&38=-2&39=2


[23-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
this was hers


[23-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
anarcho-capitalism, bleeding-heart libertarianism, minarchism, and liberal democracy all at 100%


[23-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
I'm still not sure how liberal democracy got in there


[23-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably wording about "the people should..."


[23-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which she mistook for action without gov't.


[23-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The government _should_ be just the people


[23-Oct-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They ideally are indistinguishable, a republic should mean that the representatives are nothing but mouthpieces for the will of the citizens


[23-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand.


[23-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crow's Mom doesn't want representatives


[23-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf is paleoconservatism
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-1&4=2&5=-2&6=1&7=-1&8=-2&9=2&10=-1&11=0&12=1&13=-1&14=2&16=0&17=0&18=2&19=1&20=-1&21=1&22=1&23=0&24=2&25=1&26=1&27=-1&28=1&29=2&30=0&31=-2&32=1&33=-1&34=1&35=2&36=1&37=-2&38=-2&39=-1


[23-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor any kind of action that isn't done by people themselves individually.


[23-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't want bureaucracy, or rules, or laws


[23-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan, TSP


[23-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Paleoconservatism is the idea that socialized medicine is the devil


[23-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
that capitalism will usher in a new era like the gilded age


[23-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a softer, gentler kind of ethnic cleansing.


[23-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good old Christian businessmen, not impeded by the gov't as they work to improve only their own community, while secretly stealing from those of others.


[23-Oct-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
With some nice warm nuclear weapons ready to annihilate brown people.


[23-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That doesn't sound very romantic


[23-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shhh, let the soothing voice of Ronald lull you to sleep while blakk market thugs harvest your organs.


[23-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187063301731209220

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187063301731209220
The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!
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[23-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
trump....


[23-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump knew/approved the storming of the SCIF too


[23-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He gave the go ahead for an obstruction of a Congressional investigation


[23-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467147-no-2-gop-senator-picture-coming-out-of-diplomats-testimony-not-a-good-one

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467147-no-2-gop-senator-picture-coming-out-of-diplomats-testimony-not-a-good-one
No. 2 GOP senator: 'Picture coming out of' diplomat's testimony 'n...
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) said on Wednesday that it was difficult "to draw hard, fast conclusions" from a top U.S. diplomat's closed-door testimony but the "picture" from initial reports was "not a good one."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/thunejohn_080119gn_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in interesting times


[23-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-two-thirds-of-the-way-to-edge-of-a-civil-war-poll

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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-two-thirds-of-the-way-to-edge-of-a-civil-war-poll
Voters believe US two-thirds of the way to 'edge of a civil war': poll
The average American voter believes the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/political_divide_0.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[23-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
How did we move from Obama to Trump


[23-Oct-19 09:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
its such a back slide


[23-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama to Trump voters.


[23-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their primary concerns according to surveys were racial.


[23-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, Obama freed blakk people from jail serving overly long sentences.


[23-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama is blakk.


[23-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama constantly pushed for more racial equality.


[23-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racist voters initially were fine with letting him at the helm under the idea that Biden was the real ruler.


[23-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Over time it became clear Obama actually was going to cause racial equality.


[23-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which to such voters, means blakk people FREED FROM JAIL ON THE STREETS STEALING YOUR BIKE SHOOTING YOUR KIDS


[23-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note that anti-anxiety medication reduces racism.


[23-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a Republican who promises to kill brown people in large quantities


[23-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
who has a history of racial discrimination in his business


[23-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
and promised to run the gov't like his business.


[23-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put 2 and 2 together, @Sally Moon


[23-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something from an imgur comment:


[23-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Trump is a poor person's concept of a rich man, a dumb person's concept of a smart man, and a cowardly person's concept of a brave man."


[23-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467149-ukraine-leader-voiced-concerns-about-trump-political-pressure-prior

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467149-ukraine-leader-voiced-concerns-about-trump-political-pressure-prior
Ukraine leader voiced concerns about Trump political pressure prio...
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in May discussed with advisors at length his concerns about the pressure that President Trump was applying on him to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, two months before the leaders' July 25 ph
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_092419getty_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"No pressure, no qpq"


[23-Oct-19 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
A Modest Proposal


[23-Oct-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is the perfect populist for racist idiots who want someone like them in charge but who they think is TEH SMARTZ


[23-Oct-19 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dlzkqr/support_for_trump_impeachment_rises_as_59_say_he/f4vekdi?context=3

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Support for Trump impeachment rises as 59% say he pursued personal...
Posted in r/politics by u/Kilroy_Was_Here_1st • 19,044 points and 1,271 comments
https://external-preview.redd.it/v2-JLzPo4muL4EFhZ_VtGilYaDvozegeu1Rj6kF_FI8.jpg?width=1200&height=628.272251309&auto=webp&s=88e8b4748fb37ee2e699e51791fc27e257797844


[23-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, support is rising rapidly


[23-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
surprised his approval rating hasn't dropped noticeably yet


[23-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has dropped by 2% in the last month


[23-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Currently 41%, lowest was 36.4%


[23-Oct-19 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Why don't schools teach epistemology


[23-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/467150-hawley-blackburn-push-bill-to-move-most-federal-agencies-out-of-dc

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https://thehill.com/policy/finance/467150-hawley-blackburn-push-bill-to-move-most-federal-agencies-out-of-dc
Hawley, Blackburn push bill to move most federal agencies out of DC
Two Senate Republicans have introduced a bill calling for moving most federal agencies outside of the nation’s capital.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hawleyjosh_071619gn_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus, this is corrupt as fuck.


[23-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it would make students question what they're taught later.


[23-Oct-19 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The bill, sponsored by GOP Sens. Josh Hawley (Mo.) and Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) would move a major federal agency to each of their states."


[23-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The bill would also move the Department of Commerce to Pennsylvania, the Department of Energy to Kentucky, Health and Human Services to Indiana, the Department of Housing and Urban Development to Ohio, the Department of the Interior to New Mexico, the Department of Labor to West Virginia, the Department of Transportation to Michigan and the Department of Veterans Affairs would move to South Carolina."


[23-Oct-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Isn't that the point of education


[23-Oct-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
To have a foundation of reason


[23-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not in the West


[23-Oct-19 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I've been listening to Matt Dillahunty on AXP for the past few days and I've gotten a pretty fucking depressing understanding of how unable most people are to comprehend basic logical principles


[23-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
education is intended to instill particular values


[23-Oct-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prussian Model etc.


[23-Oct-19 09:30 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So appearently the US is being given four weeks to leave Iraq


[23-Oct-19 09:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm waiting for Trump to declare Iraq the 51st state in a televised address. "Yes people, the troops. The troops are home! They're home people. Iraq? It's America now. It's great. I brought the troops home. All of them. They're fine people and they have a fine home. That's right! They're never leaving home again. It'll be great people. Believe me. The generals."


[23-Oct-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
That would never fly


[23-Oct-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Iraq has _brown people_


[23-Oct-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Scary


[23-Oct-19 09:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
We are turning isolantionist day by day.


[23-Oct-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Well


[23-Oct-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
It's _Monkey's Paw_ isolationist


[23-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I bet Trump is going to use the military funds to invest in his wall


[23-Oct-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
The wall will not be built


[23-Oct-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a perfect boogeyman


[23-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It was a vanity project after all


[23-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is so fearful of the illiegals from the south but it was revealed that Canada makes up the largest illegal immigrate group.


[23-Oct-19 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Every single bit of rhetoric is about inciting a fear of brown people


[23-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It is a sad fact


[23-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
trump tried to have the wall built by appropriating military funds set aside by congress for other things


[23-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
the courts rebuffed that pretty harshly


[23-Oct-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump had advance knowledge and supported a protest by Republicans who told him they planned to barge into a secure hearing room on Capitol Hill where Democrats are holding impeachment testimonies, according to four people familiar with the matter.


[23-Oct-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
> > When figuratively obstructing justice isn't enough, so you literally obstruct justice.


[23-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats are completely doing this by the rules.


[23-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think I've ever heard of something like this happening before


[23-Oct-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why we have censure.


[23-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50152253

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50152253
Kim orders South Korean hotels at resort destroyed
North Korea's leader described a once flagship inter-Korean complex as "shabby" and "a hotchpotch".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1953/production/_109338460_057489299.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
> North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has ordered the demolition of all hotels and other buildings constructed by South Korea at a famous tourist site.


[23-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467153-lindsey-graham-rebukes-gop-congressmen-storming-scif

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467153-lindsey-graham-rebukes-gop-congressmen-storming-scif
Lindsey Graham rebukes GOP storming of SCIF: 'That's nuts'
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_102219gn2_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
> By tomorrow, Lindsey will be going at the SCIF with a battering ram.


[23-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
NK is what happens when you allow someone with an 8th grade education to lead your revolution


[23-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
NK wasn't founded by kim jong-un


[23-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
it was founded by kim il-sung (kim jong-un's grandfather) in 1948


[23-Oct-19 09:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I know, his grand father had an 8th grade


[23-Oct-19 09:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
education


[23-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/467078-sc-democrat-raises-150000-since-graham-lynching-comment

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/467078-sc-democrat-raises-150000-since-graham-lynching-comment
SC Democrat raises $150K since Graham's 'lynching' comment
South Carolina Democrat Jaime Harrison, who is challenging Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/harrisonjaime_111416_screenshot.jpg


[23-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
> South Carolina Democrat Jaime Harrison, who is challenging Sen. Lindsey Graham (R) in 2020, said Wednesday he's raised $150,000 since Graham the day before publicly agreed with President Trump calling the House’s impeachment investigation a “lynching.”


[23-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
that was fast


[23-Oct-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/trump-jim-mattis-policies-book-054967

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‘The White House is not to be trusted right now’
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[23-Oct-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seeing people defending the storming is weird


[23-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again they think the transcripts are exculpatory even though Senate GOP members don't


[23-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They really don't know how anything works


[23-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They think the optics of the storming look good


[23-Oct-19 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d9cdd55e4b087efdba3fe71

> I hate to be dark but with this administration, we can't rule out the possibility that they've fucking killed these people

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Some of the women have serious medical issues, and lawyers worry they could die in detention.
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[23-Oct-19 10:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[23-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467168-gop-lawmaker-shares-audio-of-phone-call-he-made-from-highly-classified-scif

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GOP lawmaker shares audio of phone call he made from highly-classi...
Rep. Alex Mooney (R. W.Va.) shared audio of a phone call he made from inside a secure room at the Capitol where Democrats were attempting to interview a witness as part of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mooneyalex_042518gn_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not too smart, eh


[23-Oct-19 10:37 PM] ononim#8141
I am not reading all this, what did I miss


[23-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans stormed into a deposition that they weren't allowed in, based on rules that they themselves had written


[23-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it's worse than that


[23-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They stormed into a secure meeting room with insecure devices, recording to later disseminate, in protest of rules they themselves wrote.


[23-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the kind of thing where if Dems did it, they'd be removed from the House.


[23-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, actually removed from office, need to host a special election to replace.


[23-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Trump told them to do it.


[23-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why obstruct Congress remotely when you can use a heckler's veto?


[23-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
We live in a society. 🤡


[23-Oct-19 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
why is teaspoon green-anarchist


[23-Oct-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Did someone say Green Anarchism


[23-Oct-19 10:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
>>1519701


[23-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[23-Oct-19 10:46 PM] ononim#8141
Stop hurting me by reminding me about NE Syria


[23-Oct-19 10:47 PM] ononim#8141

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[23-Oct-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
We are all hurting, comrade.


[23-Oct-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
But you too can at least build a plan for sustainable eco-communities in your area.


[23-Oct-19 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
more like sustainble police button in the ass for "extremism"


[23-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Going to take a wild guess and say there are some issues with how the EU is handling migrants still https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-50150070

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Lorry driver held as 39 found dead in trailer
Police quiz a man, named locally as Mo Robinson, 25, on suspicion of murder after the discovery.
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[23-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
39 corpsicles at -25 C


[23-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Better or worse than classifying a boat full of them as toxic waste and sending them off to die


[23-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467176-graham-walks-back-thats-nuts-comment-on-gop-congressmen-storming-impeachment

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Graham walks back 'that's nuts' comment on GOP congressmen stormin...
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_102219gn2_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I was initially told House GOP took the SCIF by force – basically like a GOP version of Occupy Wall Street.  Apparently it was a peaceful protest.  Big difference."


[23-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A peaceful protest entering a secured room with unsecured devices


[23-Oct-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Senator Lindsey Goddamn


[23-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a felony


[23-Oct-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[23-Oct-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I know


[23-Oct-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
But they're not in jail


[23-Oct-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
And unlikely to be arrested


[23-Oct-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
At this point it seems clear to me that the US is not a constitutional republic, it's just an oligarchy


[23-Oct-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
You can evade any crime you want as long as you're well connected enough


[23-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467179-house-chairman-asks-sergeant-at-arms-to-take-action-after-republicans-bring

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House chairman asks sergeant at arms to 'take action' after Republ...
The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday asked the top congressional law enforcement official to “take action" in response to GOP lawmakers bringing electronic devices to a secure facility while disrupting the deposition
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/impeachment_scif_phones_house_gop_102319gn_lead.jpg


[23-Oct-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It doesn't need to be the sergeant at arms necessarily, there are also congressional police


[23-Oct-19 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/22/daily-mail-powerful-transgender-lobby-one-man-flower-crown/?fbclid=IwAR0FWG3ZJzvZU70tyJYoGN4E-IVN0zWcK60Y3zbtgqhjwnzX5HTptJQ182k

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The Daily Mail finally reveals who it thinks is the ‘powerful tr...
The Daily Mail has finally revealed who it thinks the "powerful trans lobby" in the UK is, and it's one trans teenager in a flower crown.
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[24-Oct-19 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxezjtw1Ak

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We need to talk about SEPTA Route 56
How systemic disinvestment can turn a high-quality light rail line into just another bus. Footage of Route 56 in 1991 courtesy youtube user tassiebaz, who ha...
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[24-Oct-19 12:11 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIEjbwvF3tk

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YPG - "Go on home Turkish soldiers..."
An old Irish rebel song adapted for the struggle of the Kurdish people of Rojava, Kurdistan, against the tyranny of the Turkish state. This was sang in solid...
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[24-Oct-19 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467194-graham-white-house-needs-to-do-a-better-job-on-impeachment-messaging

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Graham: White House needs to do a better job on impeachment messaging
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_102219gn3_lead.jpg


[24-Oct-19 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr Graham wants to make sure they're all telling the same story because right now some of them are telling the truth and it looks bad


[24-Oct-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not even about defending the substance, McConnell said that


[24-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I've seen this before the Clinton White House had a coordinated effort where people would deliver the message of the day. ...That's not going on. I think what they need is to have a group of people, some trained in law, to respond to impeachment inquires and stay on message. I don't see that. I hope to see that. It worked with President Clinton."


[24-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think their hope is that Mitch changes his mind


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't even tell where Mitch's head is at right now. One day he's saying he'll have to bring it to a vote if it comes to the senate, the next he's saying he'll vote to dismiss it outright because it's illegitimate


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really want to know what Cooper knows. Must have been super bad if this unprecedented thing happened


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah Mitch didn't say that, Graham did


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, she's Pentagon, so


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mitch said he would have to


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And consistently said that


[24-Oct-19 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man there are too many moving parts


[24-Oct-19 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they really should do a better job on impeachment messaging :twismug:


[24-Oct-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their hope is that they don't have to


[24-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The initial hope is that they could stop it in the House


[24-Oct-19 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm *really* curious to see what the S-A-A is gonna do


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm imagining some sort of mass censure


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is that a thing


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know for certain but censure requires a vote


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Rep. Jim Jordan, a Republican from Ohio, told reporters that Cooper’s testimony included an (already public) timeline on the aid to Ukraine. He added that the aid was suspended on July 18 and reinstated on Sept. 11."


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as you'll recall, just such a vote failed the other day aimed at Schiff


[24-Oct-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They knew about it first week of August


[24-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When they were _still trying to get Zelensky to make a public statement_


[24-Oct-19 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
censure is almost as rare as impeachment, btw


[24-Oct-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
normally if a representative acts up, the seargent-at-arms will be asked to just walk over and point a big symbolic stick in their face


[24-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just curious how this will all pan out


[24-Oct-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was pretty obvious QPQ, yes?


[24-Oct-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyywell that depends


[24-Oct-19 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It LOOKS goshdarn obvious


[24-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think even in the phone call before they knew aid was being held up there was still QPQ


[24-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They knew the threat, they knew the money wasn't coming


[24-Oct-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They at least knew QPQ before it was released on the 11th


[24-Oct-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well if it was extortion or bribery, that wouldn't technically be QPQ


[24-Oct-19 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was close to extortion with the public announcement thing


[24-Oct-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Having said that, if they can prove that it was bribery (which might be easier), it'd be impossible to claim that the president shouldn't be impeached for it


[24-Oct-19 12:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as bribery happens to be one of the two crimes explicitly listed in the constitution as impeachable


[24-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just pessimistic as to whether they can make the case in the articles


[24-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But most of the GOP push seems to be about the process so


[24-Oct-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's my belief that the GOP is keeping the narrative focused on QPQ because it is the weakest argument


[24-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus Sondland and Taylor's testimony


[24-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah I think there's still a QPQ


[24-Oct-19 12:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, but if you distract people with that, they'll forget about the other illegal things like moving the conversation to the other server, withholding aid, actually asking Zelensky to investigate a US national (without going through the proper channels)...


[24-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just all bad


[24-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus people riding on Taylor "believes"


[24-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When he you know, straight up called it like he saw it


[24-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taylor really was damning


[24-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467196-graham-nixes-plan-to-send-pelosi-letter-warning-gop-wont-convict-trump

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Graham nixes plan to send Pelosi letter warning GOP won't convict ...
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_101719gn_lead_0.jpg


[24-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony


[24-Oct-19 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm guessing this is more to do with the optics on Graham himself and has almost nothing to do with Taylor


[24-Oct-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> “Some people didn’t like the approach and I’m taking their concerns under advisement. And I’ll do what I’ll need to do,” he said.


[24-Oct-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[24-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah optics would look awful


[24-Oct-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't seem particularly concerned about optics


[24-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's their entire defense, make it look bad and criticize the process


[24-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they know the substance is indefensible


[24-Oct-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They've focused more on process than anything


[24-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
`At this point it seems clear to me that the US is not a constitutional republic, it's just an oligarchy`


[24-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
isn't the entire world like this?!


[24-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean really.


[24-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
we learned from the best - you. Modern Russia learned from you.


[24-Oct-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
probably half the world did.


[24-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's like... If you don't mind being isolated from the world, you can base your power on the military, on secret police, on ideology


[24-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
in the modern world though, money makes power makes right


[24-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
and everything else is a smokescreen


[24-Oct-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Well, we pride ourself on the rule of law


[24-Oct-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
But with people who actively have no interest in the law in charge of enforcing the law


[24-Oct-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
There seems to be a... conflict of interest


[24-Oct-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nyc-bar-association-if-ag-barr-doesnt-recuse-himself-from-ukraine-matter-he-should-resign-or-be-removed/

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NYC Bar Association: If AG Barr Doesn’t Recuse Himself From Ukra...
The New York City Bar Association has called on U.S. Attorney General William Barr to stand down and recuse himself from any further review by the DOJ of issues related to the Trump administration's massive and snowballing Ukraine scandal.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/GettyImages-117881659111.jpg


[24-Oct-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
How about... _disbarred_?


[24-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do people get disbarred over refusing to recuse in cases where they hav a conflict of interest?


[24-Oct-19 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking


[24-Oct-19 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
btw people mentions mr Lutsenko before, former justice minister of ours.


[24-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that motherfucker sucked by _our_ standards.


[24-Oct-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
we know, that's why there was an international condemnation


[24-Oct-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie in normal cases yes


[24-Oct-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't normal


[24-Oct-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
even if he were to be disbarred who would stop him from practicing law


[24-Oct-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
he's the AG


[24-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judiciary should.


[24-Oct-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the judiciary has no teeth


[24-Oct-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the only people who seem to possess the ability to arrest these buffoons are the sergeants-at-arms and the capitol police


[24-Oct-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
all of which won't


[24-Oct-19 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The sergeant-at-arms of the House is largely ceremonial and doesn't *typically* act of his own volition. The capitol police similarly need to be called to action. Their inaction up to this point can largely be explained by Pelosi being a wet blanket


[24-Oct-19 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, as we saw earlier today, when they *do* get called in, they actually do their jobs


[24-Oct-19 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It remains to be seen if the SAA will do something per the letter that was sent to him


[24-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know if you'd get disbarred for it alone @Nebbie


[24-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I think that kind of thing is largely optional.


[24-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Generally if you're the kind of person to ignore a clear conflict of interest you break other rules too so


[24-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's definitely proper to do it here


[24-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Federal regulations (28 CFR 45.2) for DOJ prosecutors require recusal whenever a lawyer “has a personal or political relationship with any person . . . substantially included in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation.”


[24-Oct-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Will you go to jail if you don't


[24-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, you'll get disciplined by the bar


[24-Oct-19 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Not good enough


[24-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't do much else


[24-Oct-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
hah


[24-Oct-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-meeting-military-officials-mattis-guy-snodgrass-book-2019-10

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'Who gives a s--- about Afghanistan?': Trump stunned officials wit...
Trump made the remarks during a meeting with top military officials, according to Jim Mattis' former speechwriter, Guy Snodgrass.
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[24-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rudy-giuliani-is-looking-for-a-defense-lawyer-report-2019-10-23

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Rudy Giuliani is looking for a defense lawyer: report
Rudy Giuliani is now looking for a defense attorney, CNN reported Wednesday night. Giuliani, who is President Donald Trump's personal attorney, recently...
https://mw3.wsj.net/mw5/content/logos/mw_logo_social.png


[24-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's Rudy


[24-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
`Giuliani, who is President Donald Trump's personal attorney, recently parted ways with his lawyer, John Sale, saying he had no need for a defense attorney, though he told CNN last week he would need one if Democrats take him to court over his refusal to comply with Congressional subpoenas.`


[24-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
'I don't need a lawyer unless I get sued'.


[24-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
_gigglesnort_


[24-Oct-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Rudy is going to get the short end of every stick once this is all played out


[24-Oct-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
assuming he hasn't had an aneurysm or something


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Michael Cohen agreed to vastly reduced sentencing if he spoke out about Trump's crimes, and oh boy he did


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but that won't happen with Rudy


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
no, he's too proud


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-western-canada-trans-mountain-1.5332365?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
he'll say everything Trump did on air live on CNN


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
and then there will be nothing left for him to bargain immunity with


[24-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
As much as this sucks environment wise


[24-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We need nantaol unity


[24-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We need alberta jobs


[24-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
no, you don't need the pipeline


[24-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
nor do you necessarily need jobs; you need creative outlets for people, and there are non-job ways of doing that


[24-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For Albertas sake yes


[24-Oct-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pipeline will only makelike a hundred jobs at most that will likely be let go after the line is built and thne it will jsut be like 5 people working the pipeline


[24-Oct-19 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nor will it inject cash into the local economy


[24-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
it will inject cash into billionaires' pockets


[24-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
as usual


[24-Oct-19 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you'd be better off hosting a furry convention. Seriously.


[24-Oct-19 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will also probably drive a wedge in any unity alberta has


[24-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the only people who get the benefit from infrastructure like a pipeline are rich businessmen who own the rights to the oil fields


[24-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
at eventual great cost to the environment when the pipeline inevitably leaks


[24-Oct-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing like crude oil on your vegetation


[24-Oct-19 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mm nothing liek a cold glass of oil contaminated water supply


[24-Oct-19 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, petrochemicals are so difficult to clean up that the way they clean up gas that spills into dirt is to *dig up the dirt and chuck it in a landfill* because there is no other way to get anything to grow there again


[24-Oct-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
PAHs


[24-Oct-19 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the major constitutents of crude are not in and of themselves toxic but the aromatics are unbelievably toxic


[24-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) what


[24-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
oh btw


[24-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
the other thing about oilfield work


[24-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The reason we are doing it is beacuse Saqcatawn and Alberta wanted it


[24-Oct-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
it usually requires prior experience


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
so you can't hire locals; you have to hire from out of town


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it often requires a degree


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they will not hire interns with prior experience


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want someone fresh to teach *their* way


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
that's going on with shale gas extraction in my neck of the woods


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/fire-burning-in-western-canada-following-election-saskatchewan-premier

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The Canadian Press
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/fire-burning-in-western-canada-following-election-saskatchewan-premier
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe: Liberals have ‘divided our natio...
Moe is renewing his calls for Trudeau to cancel the federal carbon tax, to rework the equalization formula and to get oil pipelines built
https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/sask_carbon_challenge_20190503-e1571770172239.jpg


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, you get interns who are not knowledgible about safety etc.


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They wanted it


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
they aren't hiring locals they're bringing people in from outside


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and who can be indoctrinated into doing whatever the company wants.


[24-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So we are giving it


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah well the voters are fucking stupid. as usual.


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
hope they learn their lesson


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They wanted it because they were told they would get the jobs and the money


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The voters voted to line the pokkets of oil companies.


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this will change once they realize they will get neither of these things


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to make some petroleum engineers from the US and China and such decently wealthy.


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they'll get some of the money.


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they'll end up spending it to fix the environmental problems created.


[24-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tbh the most evil dick part of me wants to say that we are doing it to shut Alberta up


[24-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make no mistake, that's the real reason.


[24-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Stop fucking whinneing here is your god damm fucking pipeline


[24-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Third Way policies are entirely about shutting up the opposition by giving in to some of their demands, selectively.


[24-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau doesn't giv a shit about the environment


[24-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
he tried to suppress investigations into oil companies


[24-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Now stop with this wegixt bullshit


[24-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wegixt?


[24-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Wexit


[24-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ie reee stop being mean to us with your carbon taxes and build a pipeline ottawa chan


[24-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Our we wil leave canada chan


[24-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But the rest of me knows that this is what alberta needs


[24-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You got to give and take


[24-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You got to nogoeat and compromise


[24-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Negotiating with conservatives who don't actually giv a fukk about you, the environment, etc., is how you end up with things like DADT


[24-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or Obamacare


[24-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of those is decent, but it's a far cry from sane policy.


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its what they want its what they will get


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
and then the conservatives dismantle the rules to try to fuck you over


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And if it does blow up in there face


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's generally how it goes.


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cant say we didnt try and stop you


[24-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives get mad about the compromise' existence and find a way into power to just get what they wanted to begin with.


[24-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obamacare is a prime example of this.


[24-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Alberta will demand more pipelines


[24-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and will try to supress green energy


[24-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I know all the arugments agginst the pipeline


[24-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and all the while, Trudeau will hemmhorrage support.


[24-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And yeah it will suck


[24-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But we need to do this


[24-Oct-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
hypothetical


[24-Oct-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
if we went back to the 30s and stopped neoliberalism before it got off the ground where would be now


[24-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not really when he is doing it for nansanal unitys sake


[24-Oct-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I assume Keynesianism would have still died in some fashion


[24-Oct-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
but it'd be through some conservative dystopia


[24-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think neoliberalism was a product of the times


[24-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
rapid technological improvements, outpacing the law, leading to calls to weaken the law


[24-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
at the same time, the ability to aggregate capital in a way never seen before


[24-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could tamp it down, but not kill it.


[24-Oct-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
let's say it was replaced entirely by conservatism instead


[24-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really possible.


[24-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be serious crakks in such.


[24-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would need to be constantly subdued.


[24-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberal thinking isn't about having an end political goal


[24-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a tool of megacapitalists to get more power


[24-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a narrative they use to keep from getting torn apart by taxes and regulation.


[24-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And is their most obvious play.


[24-Oct-19 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
hm


[24-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/kinder-morgan-trans-mountain-pipeline-resistance

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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/kinder-morgan-trans-mountain-pipeline-resistance
How a Pipeline Fight Exposed Justin Trudeau’s Fake Progressivism
Justin Trudeau's shiny image is losing its luster amid a devastating corruption scandal. With movements pushing their own version of a Green New Deal, it might just be enough to take him down.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/26150418/GettyImages-1129037033.jpg


[24-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Contrary to the much-hyped idea that Alberta’s purported economic crisis is the result of a pipeline bottleneck, the province’s woes are actually the product of bad policy — such as very low royalty rates and overly rapid development of the Sands, outstripping infrastructure and creating a market glut.'


[24-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Alberta fukked itself by forcing things


[24-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not actually taxing shit


[24-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and its solution was to force more things, and still not actually tax them, while a ton of money was spent by Trudeau


[24-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bull. Fukking. Shit Alberta needed this.


[24-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just the usual.


[24-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big business makes mistakes


[24-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau is like WELL HERE IS FIVE BILLION DOLLARS


[24-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh FFS https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/31/justin-trudeau-kinder-morgan-pipeline-china-did-he-fear-being-sued

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Did Canada buy an oil pipeline in fear of being sued by China?
The logic to Trudeau’s action may lie in an obscure and overlooked 2014 agreement to ensure China got a pipeline built
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/95cd23d5ce4dd3b9dea0f0bbf07977b6e8dc9373/0_87_2992_1795/master/2992.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&enable=upscale&s=2ce2a5e50833f98e2012cfb993bb5f41


[24-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Canada literally was obligated to build China a pipeline because of an agreement.


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
🇨🇳


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Canadian mining companies are using Fipas with developing countries to claim damages from community opposition to unwanted mega-projects.'


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just fukking amazing


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
will there ever be a point where the entire world is just about ready to go to war with china


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a treaty where if people don't want you bulldozing their land


[24-Oct-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
that seems like the new political reality


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you hav to pay up to another country


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
directly incentivizing you to trample natives


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman The pipeline's existence is an affront to Canada's First Nations.


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
more importantly


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if it does happen, will china win


[24-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is happening.


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking Harper, he basically left in a bomb for Trudeau.


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the answer seems unlikely to be yes, since the US has military supremacy


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
by far


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
but only if we actually get on the ground


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh you mean, a war? Nah China's screwed.


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their navy is absolute garbage and too many countries want them to fukk out of the sea.


[24-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes it is


[24-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And that sucks


[24-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And yes it won't magicly fix the problems in albeta


[24-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It won't fix any problems.


[24-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But its about uniny


[24-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a Chinese-mandated project that doesn't accomplish anything.


[24-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no unity to be had in that


[24-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it pisses off environmentalists and natives


[24-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
while supporting big corporations


[24-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Except for when Alberta keeps demanding it and wants to suseed when it doesnt happen


[24-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get disunity either way.


[24-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and unity is a *terrible* goal


[24-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
unity ultimately requires crushing your political opposition


[24-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Id rathee not have alberta feel alienated


[24-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada isn't any more united just because it shat all over 14% of its population.


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well 14% of Canada's population will feel alienated instead.


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This is a compromise to stop the alienation of the west


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the West HATES building pipelines


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you mean the western territories?


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That won't stop it


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hate the fact that the natives even opposed it.


[24-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The western provences


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're just going to vote conservative anyways.


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ie albeta and sacactuawn


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, conservatives don't get happy because you appeased them


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Canada needs to be united


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just see more opportunity to fukk you up.


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada isn't united


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And will not be because of the pipeline.


[24-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would hav *greater* unity without it, I suspect, as well.


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No beacuse of just how much they want it


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
When native peoples are like a 6th of your population, it's kinda important to not trample all over their rights.


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not really how unity works.


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They just wont shut up about it


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ever


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they won't after it's built.


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will continue to screech until the natives are literally genocided.


[24-Oct-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
and then continue after that


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Slippery slope fallacy


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, if they all are driving sold gold ferraris, they might be satisfied.


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No one wants to genoside anything


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe not explicitly


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its about stoping the sussisionest ideaa


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they want the cultures destroyed


[24-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No they don't


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Secession won't happen either way.


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They just want jobs


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't be getting hardly any jobs tho


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea that "they want jobs" is a lie


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
they want sinecures for themselves and to break the backs of the natives


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the usual economic disguise


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say you just want jobs for the local economy


[24-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you embark on a big expensive project


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
that does provide some well-paying jobs...to highly trained people brought in from elsewhere


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get a bunch of lobbyist money


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The local area doesn't actually benefit any


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
if anything, the foreigners with high-paying jobs drive up prices


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
which fukks over the locals


[24-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Again we tryed telling that to them


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Over and over again


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They just dont fucking listen


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The proper response to conservatives screeching to just let big oil run over the natives is to completely ignore them


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So now they get there god damm pipeline


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and go about building actually useful projects locals can work in until the benefits from such mildly tide some of them over.


[24-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pipeline won't tide them over.


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Compromise requires give and take


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a year, they'll just demand another big project.


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They said that it would


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its like the first thing on there list


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just make a new list, that's how this goes.


[24-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is about unbridled hunger for expansion


[24-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The then logical responce would be


[24-Oct-19 04:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We gave you what you asked


[24-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Now stop whining


[24-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only hope now is NDP can keep Trudeau's phony liberalism in chekk and actually do some green energy and shut down the pipelines.


[24-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You get one pipeline


[24-Oct-19 04:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not with the ndps leveal of seats


[24-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Libs and cons will unite to buld a pipeline


[24-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
NDP is enuff to coalition with.


[24-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's...very unlikely.


[24-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just so alberta will shut up


[24-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lib/con coalition is basically impossible.


[24-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There both center and both want investment in Alberta to shut the Albertans up


[24-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They get there pressios pipeline and jobs


[24-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They are a part of canada


[24-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Now they can fuck off with that wexit shit


[24-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And that us annex idea garabage


[24-Oct-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've never really known conservatives to shut up about crazy ideas to fukk people over just because they were given what they asked for.


[24-Oct-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/RepAlexMooney/status/1187063885372841989

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[24-Oct-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
They've lost it


[24-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Treascair#7785
So... serious question: how arrested are all those Republicans that barged into the closed door deposition with phone cameras running in violation of national security and congressional regulations?


[24-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a scale of "I own the police" to 10, somewhere around 2


[24-Oct-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very unlikely anything will be done.


[24-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Complain about the process when you've got nothing


[24-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Notice they're saying "oh they didn't know until August, couldn't have been QPQ on July 25!"


[24-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But you know, they were pushing for the CNN admission long after that


[24-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're not mentioning that because that's not qpq, it's borderline extortion


[24-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467223-sondland-attorney-disputes-key-portions-of-taylor-testimony-report#

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Sondland attorney disputes key portions of Taylor testimony: report
An attorney representing U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/taylorwilliam1_102219.jpg


[24-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm Sondland doesn't remember, but the guy who wrote everything down does


[24-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also nice throwing Pence under the bus there


[24-Oct-19 08:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/21/a-drug-cartel-just-defeated-the-mexican-military-in-battle/

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A Drug Cartel Just Defeated The Mexican Military In Battle
Mexico is in a state of collapse, and Americans need to realize that the crisis underway south of the Rio Grande won’t stop at the border.
https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Culiacan.jpeg


[24-Oct-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gee, maybe we should stop providing easy access to military-grade personal weapons near the border with Mexico.


[24-Oct-19 08:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
speaking of borders, I'm not sure what to make about Trump's remarks that we're "building a wall in Colorado"


[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colorado sounds spanish


[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it's ok, Sen. Leahy (D-VT) has our backs:

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[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
so obviously, it must be south of New Mexico.


[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what an amazing meme, 10/10


[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welp, you heard the president


[24-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're ceding a state.


[24-Oct-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next up, he'll talk about Wisconsin bordering Canada, and we'll lose a lot of access to the great lakes.


[24-Oct-19 08:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we'll make up for it with greenland


[24-Oct-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, by somehow ceding that from Denmark to Canada.


[24-Oct-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Danes won't see it coming.


[24-Oct-19 08:30 AM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, automatic weaponry is notoriously difficult to obtain even in pro-2nd states. It takes money and extensive paperwork.


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
the exceptions are pre-1968 stuff foreign made, and... somewhere in the early 80ies? for domestic.


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
you can't build an army off semi-autos.


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
paperwork arms dealers and smugglers don't have to deal with


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
so this isn't about 'proving access'


[24-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just corruption, plain and simple.


[24-Oct-19 08:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
this would also be a poor time to "throw open the borders" if Mexico does get worse.


[24-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
would be a good time to push the borders though :D


[24-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about *automatic* weaponry


[24-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
semi-automatic


[24-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is stupid easy to get in the US


[24-Oct-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Because automatics on every video, or that juicy M2 on the technical are totally irrelevant.


[24-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and can be relatively easily converted to automatic, but that's pointless, as with automatic fire rates, you end up with a bit too little accuracy; semi-auto is preferable for taking on armed forces)


[24-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they do have border gates that screen for things like fire arms like semis on those that travel


[24-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
gee wiz maybe reps aren't the root cause of the issue for once.


[24-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do screen, but fundamentally you never find near enuff of it


[24-Oct-19 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially when there are large areas where people can get across without being detected


[24-Oct-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really large border and there are a very large amount of semi-automatic weapons that get smuggled across it


[24-Oct-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said weapon smuggling is one of the big reasons to send drugs our way


[24-Oct-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs go here, money and guns comes bakk.


[24-Oct-19 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
auto is suppression, primarily. That's useful if you're actually fighting someone who shoots back. Undrebarrel launchers is another thing. Military vs personal/civilian.


[24-Oct-19 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it relatively easy for the cartels to arm.


[24-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
'relatively easy to convert', well it's relatively easy to build an SMG from scratch.


[24-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
literally from off-the-shelf materials.


[24-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a poor argument.


[24-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you can't really turn a glock into a m60


[24-Oct-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is it's MUCH easier to convert to automatic than to create from scratch.


[24-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when a simple bump stokk can get you like 95% of the automatic fire rate in most situations.


[24-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
pfffffff bump stock


[24-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
don't xD


[24-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
bump stock is a toy with bad rep. It destroys your aim.


[24-Oct-19 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
again, as plenty of people demonstrated.


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to aim for suppressive fire


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
xD


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
please, stop.


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
stick to propaganda.


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I will not stop. It's ridiculous that you're dismissing a huge avenue by which they acquire weapons when it comes to talking about root causes.


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
soon as you mentioned bump stocks in a semi-serious conversation, it's over now.


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how debate works


[24-Oct-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it just shows the level of expertise.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I'll stop then.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't just find one point that's largely tangential and use it to burn the entire argument


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not going for another round of 'orange man bad'


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're dismissing the entire argument and actually talking about it rationally.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
your point, my counterpoint. A few rounds of that, and you're already scraping the barrel.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
you don't do rational though.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your evidence on where they get their guns?


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
you do orange man bad.


[24-Oct-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
where's yours?


[24-Oct-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2016/1/14/10771628/gun-violence-america-mexico

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https://www.vox.com/2016/1/14/10771628/gun-violence-america-mexico
Where do Mexican drug cartels get their guns? The US.
A new report exposes the issue.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/CbWB8CUbJgL-P2-gB-JMZJGzvkc=/0x220:4198x2581/1600x900/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48566063/GettyImages-482922584.0.jpg


[24-Oct-19 08:41 AM] Opponent#3498
objective reports from the government in our day and age? I mean, Obama era was better, but still


[24-Oct-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're just dismissing the evidence now because it doesn't fit your ideas.


[24-Oct-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, where is your evidence?


[24-Oct-19 08:41 AM] Opponent#3498
true, luckily for me the source of the evidence has borderline zero credibility.


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm fairly certain you won't accept any source as having credibility.


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You doubted a third-party source on the trans issue with the military


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You doubt a gov't source as well


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Opponent#3498
well no, not Democratic party who campaigned against Rep symbols like 2nd for as long as I've heard of them.


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I really don't see where you're going to find a source you trust.


[24-Oct-19 08:42 AM] Opponent#3498
I remember things like AWB and their regulations.


[24-Oct-19 08:43 AM] Opponent#3498
those were probably backed by 'statistics' too


[24-Oct-19 08:43 AM] Opponent#3498
you can arm a gang with semis, you're mostly facing that or unarmed victims


[24-Oct-19 08:43 AM] Opponent#3498
you can't arm an army


[24-Oct-19 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
either the article that started this GROSSLY overstated the issue, orrrrrrr maybe ground-level US citizens aren't as loyal to the law as you'd like to believe.


[24-Oct-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/apr/30/mexicos-american-gun-problem-record-homicides-and-/

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https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/apr/30/mexicos-american-gun-problem-record-homicides-and-/
Mexico's American Gun Problem
As President Trump wants to fight drugs and migrants pouring into the U.S., Mexico is reeling from bloodshed fueled by American guns, bullets and grenades pouring into Mexico.
https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2019/04/30/02ad864b-3f19-40de-b177-adeaab78653d.JPG


[24-Oct-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Mexican customs data shows seizures of U.S.-origin guns at U.S.-Mexico ports of entry increased 92 percent last year to 364. More than 116, 000 bullets were also seized heading into Mexico, according to Mexico's customs agency.'


[24-Oct-19 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
people buy grenades at gun shows.


[24-Oct-19 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
brilliant.


[24-Oct-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So do you doubt the Mexican gov't too on this?


[24-Oct-19 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
do yourself a favour and read the entirety of the article before cherrypicking it.


[24-Oct-19 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
'Nununu it's not us, we're not selling them any military equipment, no sir-e, we're the most honest government, military and police in the world! Promises!'


[24-Oct-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
wut


[24-Oct-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you seriously saying that both the US and Mexican gov'ts are conspiring to make up that the guns originate from the US?


[24-Oct-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Mexico actually has a huge leak of guns which happen to be sold a lot in the US coming from its own military?


[24-Oct-19 08:48 AM] Opponent#3498
conspiring? God no.


[24-Oct-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a convenient talking point, you don't _need_ to conspire on it. Only a blind deaf man living in a sheltered cave for the past 20 years would miss it.


[24-Oct-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
let me put it this way.


[24-Oct-19 08:50 AM] Opponent#3498
we have pretty tight gun laws. Us, and Russia. Others too, probably.


[24-Oct-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US doesn't hav tight gun laws


[24-Oct-19 08:50 AM] Opponent#3498
let me finish.


[24-Oct-19 08:50 AM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda relevant.


[24-Oct-19 08:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so yeah. Smoothbore for the civs, semi-auto rifles after like 5 years of ownership or smth, no pistols at all (groups try to advocate for it, but, well, obviously, it's going nowhere.)


[24-Oct-19 08:53 AM] Opponent#3498
despite all that, we had at least two recent incidents I can think of, with military-grade equipment being used for gang city fighting. Despite that, since the dawn of post-USSR and probably before, anyone who wanted a gun could get one (albeit only for illegal purposes, it's the legal side that was hampered, competition and the like).


[24-Oct-19 08:53 AM] Opponent#3498
military grade means heavy MGs and rocket launchers, not semi rifles.


[24-Oct-19 08:53 AM] Opponent#3498
'at least' - that's what I know of. Recent - in the last couple years.


[24-Oct-19 08:54 AM] Opponent#3498
every couple months there's another moron who blows himself up with a grenade. Less now, the number of morons trying to disassemble them was reduced due to natural selection.


[24-Oct-19 08:54 AM] Opponent#3498
was very consistent in '14-16


[24-Oct-19 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
my point is this. Strict gun laws AT THEIR BEST (say, UK, where only gangs can have firearms period, pretty much, where they confiscated historical collections for scrap) prevent accidents. They do not and cannot by default prevent illicit trade.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the problem here is the sheer numbers


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Opponent#3498
and the scale of it in US is defined simply by 2k km of, apparently, rather poorly guarded (for all of Trumps rhethoric about the Wall) border.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico-guns-black-market-tepito

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico-guns-black-market-tepito
Where does Mexico really get its guns?
Inside some of the darket corners of Mexico City the illegal gun industry thrives. But where and how does the country, which has stringent gun control measures, get its weapons amid rising murder rates?
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/09/757e1ba7f83f441cb1f9c61245ddc0a6.jpg


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Opponent#3498
and not in legality or lack thereof.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Some estimates – including a recent study published in Oxford’s Journal of Economic Geography – have pegged the number of guns crossing the U.S-Mexico border at over 200,000 annually.'


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll grant you. Buying a pistol is trivial in US.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just a pistol


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Opponent#3498
buying an auto rifle? Maybe not.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buying an AR-15 is trivial.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is.


[24-Oct-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same process as buying a pistol in many border states.


[24-Oct-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which, at a gun show, is barely any process at all.


[24-Oct-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2018/02/16/268520/why-ar-15-rifles-are-easier-to-get-than-handguns-in-texas/

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Florian Martin
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2018/02/16/268520/why-ar-15-rifles-are-easier-to-get-than-handguns-in-texas/
Why AR-15 Rifles Are Easier To Get Than Handguns In Texas | Housto...
The age requirement differs between the types of firearms
https://cdn.hpm.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/15103143/AP_18046487166821-802x800.jpg


[24-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Opponent#3498
even so. Automatics, grenades, grenade launchers. That's all simple corruption.


[24-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
'In Texas and many other states, it’s easier to buy an AR-15 than a 9 millimeter handgun.

That’s because you have to be at least 21 to buy a handgun, while AR-15s can be sold to people 18 and up. And before Texas’ open carry law went into effect in January 2016, handguns could not be carried openly, while AR-15s and other rifles could.'


[24-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Opponent#3498
you're vastly less effective as a fighting force without that.


[24-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally EASIER to buy a semi-auto rifle than a mere pistol.


[24-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you think this might hav something to do with the large volumes of guns flowing?


[24-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas' border with Mexico is the Rio Grande btw


[24-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Opponent#3498
well, a rifle is safer than a pistol, too, for the user and people around him. People do treat rifles with more respect.


[24-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
by treaty, neither side can build along its banks, so as not to affect the flow


[24-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Opponent#3498
so while it's silly, it makes sense in a strictly technical sense.


[24-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In places, you can walk across.


[24-Oct-19 09:02 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, I can imagine a vast op that takes a large number of people (because the same few buying bulks is suspicious no matter how you cut it), totally untracable with a bit of social lubricant, bringing guns from US to Mexico to be converted, and then buying military-grade stuff off Mexico or maybe elsewhere. I actually can.


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, the same few buying bulks isn't suspicious


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
under US federal law, merely stokkpiling weapons isn't enuff to get a warrant over


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This article goes into some depth about it https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/arming-mexican-cartels-inside-story-of-a-texas-gun-smuggling-ring-866836/

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Jason Maxey
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/arming-mexican-cartels-inside-story-of-a-texas-gun-smuggling-ring-866836/
Arming the Cartels: The Inside Story of a Texas Gun-Smuggling Ring
Selling weapons south of the border is big business — and America’s loose gun laws are also devastating for Mexico
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/ROLLING_STONE_GUNS_AGNEW.jpg


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Opponent#3498
it's suspicious, I didn't say it's persecutable.


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but you hav to understand


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they can't get a warrant


[24-Oct-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can do very very little


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US has in the 4th amendment some powerful privacy protections


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Opponent#3498
helpless law enforcement and all-powerful mafia.


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I've heard that story before.


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
which are meant to keep law enforcement from invading private lives a lot


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Opponent#3498
that's now how it works in real life though, sorry to say. At least that's not how it worked for Russia.


[24-Oct-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works rather differently in the US, in bizarre ways


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police can just randomly do a strip search on you over saying they smell pot


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get "qualified immunity" so you hav to really prove they were in the wrong and knew it


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even if they break the 4th amendment, as long as they didn't know so, the evidence is allowed


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the trouble is


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the ATF is treated rather in the opposite way


[24-Oct-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are constantly restricted by federal law on when they can pursue things


[24-Oct-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
they aren't even allowed to put their data on who owns what into a database, EVER


[24-Oct-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has to be kept all on paper


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I can guess as to how that came to be. I even happen to agree, at least in the part about always having paper records.


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So while state police can violate the 4th amendment and others six ways from sunday, the ATF is hamstrung


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a really stupid dichotomy


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the main way of finding gun crimes is *financially*


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
because going "well it's weird this guy keeps visiting mexico with guns" isn't enuff


[24-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but suddenly "this guy keeps sending cash in the mail" gets him investigated


[24-Oct-19 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there were several makeshift approaches put in place under Obama to further the latter on guns.


[24-Oct-19 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[24-Oct-19 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I know I forgot something and I should have lead with that.


[24-Oct-19 09:10 AM] Opponent#3498
besides all the technicalities I do have a personal bias in this specific question.


[24-Oct-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, one fun thing about that article is it mostly isn't about the AR-15 side of things


[24-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's mostly about a guy named Fox who sold **miniguns**


[24-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
which unbeknownst to him were going straight to Mexico


[24-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's very much powered automatic which would require significant paperwork tho.


[24-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Opponent#3498
on the end buyers behalf


[24-Oct-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the guy he sold to driving around town with miniguns in the vehicle didn't get any serious attention.


[24-Oct-19 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, all the paperwork was there, on Fox's end.


[24-Oct-19 09:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well no, not just the dealer. The buyer too.


[24-Oct-19 09:12 AM] Opponent#3498
this is kind of significant. The gun itself is hella expensive, but like all autos the paper trail it leaves is pretty severe.


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The buyer was not licensed.


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The seller thought the buyer was just out hunting.


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Opponent#3498
then he was breaking the law, simple.


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people in Texas want miniguns


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
(cause they're kinda nuts)


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Opponent#3498
they want but can't have them, because costs involved


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I've noticed a lot of firearms industry is regulated this way


[24-Oct-19 09:13 AM] Opponent#3498
want something restricted? Slap a tax on it. 200$ per shot :D


[24-Oct-19 09:14 AM] Opponent#3498
on top of everything else, that is.


[24-Oct-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something important the article points out


[24-Oct-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico had very few of these gun problems bakk when there was a ban in the US on assault rifles


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Opponent#3498
AWB was... weird.


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Opponent#3498
and it didn't last long enough to create long-lasting effects.


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think the article is genuine on this.


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it might be true.


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's mistaking correlation for causation.


[24-Oct-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lasted a decade


[24-Oct-19 09:16 AM] Opponent#3498
and how long Mexico was a hellhole? Pretty much forever.


[24-Oct-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico wasn't like this in 1994-2004


[24-Oct-19 09:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know much about this and I'll look into it. I don't think it's true. But it might be, so AWB was useful for _something_, besides producing technological abominations.


[24-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Opponent#3498
the wording on the legislation there made me think people knew very very little about what they were regulating and why.


[24-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Opponent#3498
but _maybe_ it worked.


[24-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Opponent#3498
so, yeah. Personal bias.


[24-Oct-19 09:18 AM] Opponent#3498
the only selling point of US for me, ever, would be it's gun laws. Provided I could immigrate (which I know I prrrrobably can't despite white-male-english-useful-ish occupation thing), I'd do my darndest to end up in a more gun-free state if I could land a job there. Surviving obviously takes priority over this, but only just.


[24-Oct-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://odube.net/papers/Cross_border_spillover.pdf


[24-Oct-19 09:19 AM] Opponent#3498
remove that, and it's just an overpriced multilayered quasi-darwinist mire. Bleh.


[24-Oct-19 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, this paper indicates the AWB expiration actually had an effect that is geographically obvious


[24-Oct-19 09:20 AM] Opponent#3498
seing that threatened because some people can't or won't into border control despite screeches of the contrary makes me sad.


[24-Oct-19 09:20 AM] Opponent#3498
but we've discussed why THAT is a thing before.


[24-Oct-19 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, places in Mexico increased in gun violence based on proximity to US states following AWB expiring.


[24-Oct-19 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And specifically moreso not near California, a state with stricter gun laws.


[24-Oct-19 09:22 AM] Opponent#3498
you'd think it would be different though. If there's a supply, there's no reason it wouldn't be spread around.


[24-Oct-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, these weapons are illegal to own in Mexico, by and large


[24-Oct-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
transporting them longer distances increases likelihood of detection


[24-Oct-19 09:23 AM] Opponent#3498
what does it matter, if apparently cartels can win vs government _military_ in open conflict?


[24-Oct-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's on top of the extra cost in fuel and potentially logistics of moving things further.


[24-Oct-19 09:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not trivial, but certainly not impossible.


[24-Oct-19 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cartels did not rise to this level of power immediately.


[24-Oct-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
This paper focuses on the 2002-2006 period (2 years before, and 2 years after, AWB's expiration)


[24-Oct-19 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be expected that these days, the geographical clustering is less obvious.


[24-Oct-19 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho with how large Mexico is north-south, and with Baja California being harder to cross into east-west, it would be expected that there still would be noticible geographical effects.


[24-Oct-19 09:26 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. Even they say it. It's not obvious why this change was so sudden, surely there were other avenues to cover the demand.


[24-Oct-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, another thing they mention is that rival cartels don't like each other getting guns


[24-Oct-19 09:27 AM] Opponent#3498
obviously.


[24-Oct-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence one possible reason for the geographic clustering is that if a cartel controls the area, they won't let other guns be smuggled thru it


[24-Oct-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means guns tend to stay near where they originate.


[24-Oct-19 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
`We conjecture that in a political environment wherebribes and informal agreements help maintain order,an influx of arms is most likely to increase violencein the presence of greater electoral competition—com-petitiveness undermines the pre-existing system of ex-change, and guns are particularly valuable given theresultant instability. `


[24-Oct-19 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
so not just guns available, but guns available in interesting times.


[24-Oct-19 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
would be curious to see how it would pan out otherwise, no joke.


[24-Oct-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they point out that gun availability in the US doesn't seem to matter much for crime rate.


[24-Oct-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in Mexico, it does.


[24-Oct-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The AWB seemed to not do anything. That's part of why it died and hasn't returned. Buuuut it's very clear it had a huge impact on Mexico.


[24-Oct-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immediate uptikk in violence there when it ended.


[24-Oct-19 09:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm sure the numbers they chose check out. Obama era and all, but still. And I get their idea. A wide open border with an abundance of guns is a problem when you're already in turmoil.


[24-Oct-19 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and the semi-autos would satisfy the immediate demand for cartels until they could get something better AND stimulate local markets in US, so it's would be a win-win for everyone but Mexican government.


[24-Oct-19 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
a weird situation, tbh.


[24-Oct-19 11:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_zM9TphiSo

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[24-Oct-19 01:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kinda fucked up how much fanfare PSOE is trying to make out of this


[24-Oct-19 01:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just before elections too...


[24-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467236-matt-gaetz-calls-democrats-angry-pack-of-rabid-hyenas-after-storming

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Gaetz calls Democrats 'angry pack of rabid hyenas' after storming ...
GOP Rep.
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[24-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You rewrote the rules. You had 40 closed hearings about Benghazi.


[24-Oct-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
says the guy leading the angry pack of rabid hyenas into a security breach


[24-Oct-19 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Oct-19 03:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's not good


[24-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Alas, the sergeant at arms doesn't carry arms


[24-Oct-19 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Capitol police do


[24-Oct-19 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/pelosi-mcconnell-relationship-trump-impeachment-055073

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Pelosi and McConnell are on an impeachment collision course
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[24-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
> Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell are attacking each other in increasingly pointed terms as House Democrats burrow deeper into their impeachment inquiry, but if the top two congressional leaders can’t find a way to come together soon, the government could plunge into a shutdown and any last hopes for legislating before the presidential election will vanish.


[24-Oct-19 05:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw2t0MOGnVc

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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 4: Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse
Today @aliceavizandum, @donoteat1, @oldmananders0n8, and special guest Kate Wagner from McMansion Hell discuss the 1981 Kansas City Hyatt Regency walkway col...
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[24-Oct-19 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/donald-trump-lawyer-shoot-someone

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Trump Lawyer Argues President Can Shoot Random Pedestrians, Go Abo...
According to the president’s attorney, he’s immune from prosecution for literally anything.
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[24-Oct-19 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to trump's lawyer not only is he immune, if he wanted to go on a killing spree there;s nothing the police could do to stop him


[24-Oct-19 06:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't give him ideas


[24-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But can law of physics stop him?


[24-Oct-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah bullets pass through him like ghosts


[24-Oct-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gravity acts in reverse if he falls off soem stairs


[24-Oct-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you try to grab him, your hand just phases through him


[24-Oct-19 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
if trump went on a killing spree, the secret service would be right there next to him


[24-Oct-19 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
it'd basically be a federally-sanctioned slaughter


[24-Oct-19 06:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile everyone else would be going   d e a t h    t o    t h e    p r a e t o r i a n s


[24-Oct-19 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/politics/house-passes-pact-act-trnd/index.html

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The House passes a bill that makes animal cruelty a federal felony
The House has unanimously passed a bill that makes animal cruelty a federal felony.
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[24-Oct-19 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 moscow mitch tables it


[24-Oct-19 06:33 PM] Treascair#7785
And then he'll again claim that nothing is being done, and the rubes will believe him.


[24-Oct-19 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://gfycat.com/uncommonacclaimedboar

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[24-Oct-19 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Erdogan is using chemical weapons on the Kurds


[24-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/white-house-guts-infosec-team-posturing-itself-to-be-compromised-again/

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White House kicks infosec team to curb in IT office shakeup
Senior staffer quits over "highly concerning" lack of security practices.
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[24-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
HEY RUSSIA


[24-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
PLEASE HACK US


[24-Oct-19 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
KTHX


[24-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
Russia? Nah


[24-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
China on the other hand...


[24-Oct-19 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Living in a society is making me fucking depressed


[24-Oct-19 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
:sadclown:


[24-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
No seriously


[24-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm fucking tired of the political circus


[24-Oct-19 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm living through a coup and it is interfering with everything I do


[24-Oct-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
The amount I sleep at night has fallen and my overall stress levels have skyrocketed ever since the takeover


[24-Oct-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm miserable


[24-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm just finding healthcare very uncertain, as the closest the political stuff really impacts me.


[24-Oct-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure it inevitably will in other ways, but for now at least my problems are mostly unrelated; the area I'm in is way too far from a big city to get decent employment easily.


[24-Oct-19 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/564951351147102212/635156284244492288/D6VkoTkWAAAhcGU.png

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[24-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So apparently Trump had no intention to give Ukraine aid


[24-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
No shit


[24-Oct-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow, that's almost as big a twist as an m.night shyamalan movie


[24-Oct-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if politics doesn;t give me an anyeurism, then college just might...


[24-Oct-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/129baf8e83824dcfb75c3f4e6533582c

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White House moves to halt Times, Post subscriptions
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has had it with The New York Times and The Washington Post. The White House is preparing to instruct federal agencies not to renew their subscriptions to...
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[24-Oct-19 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I AM NOT BUTTHURT! DO YOU HEAR ME? NOT BUTTHURT AT ALL!"


[24-Oct-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"TO PROVE I;M NOT BUTTHURT, I WILL NOW INSTRUCT MY PEOPLE TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE NEWS SERVICE THAT IS NOT MAKING BE BUTTHURT!"

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[24-Oct-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I don’t know what’s going to happen in terms of Ukraine. I’ve got my own view about the letter. I’m not here to tell you that Donald Trump’s done nothing wrong. I’m not here to tell you anything other than that the way they’re going about it is really dangerous for the country and we need to change course while we can in the House."- Graham


[24-Oct-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50171698

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Pence criticises NBA as 'wholly-owned' by China
In a much-watched foreign policy speech, Mr Pence took aim at China for "exploiting corporate greed'.
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[24-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467360-white-house-delayed-ukraine-trade-decision-amid-aid-hold-up-report

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White House delayed Ukraine trade decision amid aid hold-up: report
In August, White House trade representative Robert E. Lighthizer was by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton not to bring forth a recommendation that would give Ukraine increased trade privileges to President Trump.
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[24-Oct-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The depositions, I think, will determine whether or not we go forward with hearings. I think it's a very smart thing to do, to depose these people and find out what they've got to say and not drag this thing out unnecessarily. And it's going to end by the end of the year.”- Graham on having closed door depositions, 1998


[24-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Mani#1404
Bernie wants to legalize weed


[24-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Mani#1404
I think it's retarded that it is illegal but good on him


[24-Oct-19 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people want it legalized it;s really fucking dumb that you can get arrested for having weed but nicotine is fine and dandy


[24-Oct-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking of nicotine my college has too many smokers and vapers and it's giving me headaches


[24-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Mani#1404
Smoking is usually banned on campus grounds.


[24-Oct-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these are nicotine vapes, not weed vapes


[24-Oct-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not at my college!


[24-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s banned indoors and yet soemhow vapers think this doesnt apply to them


[24-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well


[24-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not smoke


[24-Oct-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s still nicotine laiden headache fuel though


[24-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure


[24-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But if there's a sign for "No Drinking"


[24-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That doesn't forbid people using alcohol eyedrops to get drunk


[24-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they aren't actually drinking


[25-Oct-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody obeys the no smoking signs at my school


[25-Oct-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
there are signs everywhere that say things like "no smoking 25 feet from entrance"


[25-Oct-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
(yes I know we use stupid units, sue me)


[25-Oct-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
and there will be a person standing right next to the sign with a lit cig


[25-Oct-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
infuriates me to no end


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Report them.


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the fucking worst


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a serious problem because it spreads


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
probably happens at @IAmADeliciousPotato 's school too


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
people begin to smoke in college for social reasons.


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, at my college, it was heavily enforced


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho people vape and get away with it cause most don't realize the policy covers vapes.


[25-Oct-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
vapes aren't even remotely as obnoxious


[25-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
One time I was next to a TA while he chewed a guy out for chew tobacco lol


[25-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suspiciously spitting into a soda cup.


[25-Oct-19 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're obnoxious to me because i get constant headaches from people vaping near me. and if i move another vaper pops up to replace them


[25-Oct-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said guy with the chew tobacco dropped out not long after.


[25-Oct-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my entire hvac class chews tobacco and spits it into soda bottles


[25-Oct-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
including the teacher


[25-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yikes.


[25-Oct-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Half the swedes at work are addicted to this stuff, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus

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[25-Oct-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not powdered, but as thin strips they put between gum and lip


[25-Oct-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know what would be nice? if people in public just chewed nicorette or something so i don't have to deal with it


[25-Oct-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesn;t float in the air, you don;t have to spit it into a bottle. it;s jsut fucking nicotine gum.


[25-Oct-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they made it in fruit flavors i bet it would fly off the fucking shelves


[25-Oct-19 12:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/23/20929453/foxconn-innovation-centers-on-hold-wisconsin-mount-pleasant-trump-deal

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Foxconn finally admits its empty Wisconsin ‘innovation centers...
Took long enough
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[25-Oct-19 12:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
THE O R B


[25-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/transcript-of-telephone-call-between-kellyanne-conway-and-caitlin-yilek

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Transcript of telephone call between Kellyanne Conway and Caitlin ...
This is a transcript of the telephone conversation between Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president of the United States, and Caitlin Yilek, breaking news reporter at the Washington Examiner. The conversation took place after Yilek returned a phone call from Tom Joannou, ...
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[25-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
` Joannou: OK. I don't think so, [laughs] but we'll look into that. Um, so, this is, um, can we agree to off the record here?

Yilek: Sure. `


[25-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKpIBNZvfM

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Kellyanne Conway mocks and threatens reporter for mentioning her h...
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[25-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
she's not _wrong_ on the 'forever relevant' thing though.


[25-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, it sucks. Yes, it will be forever relevant. No, there is no objective need for it. Yes, it's a trend common for conservative news outlets as well. Deal with it. (c)


[25-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and oh so prideful. Heh. Brings a smile to my face.


[25-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
'I'm just following orders' is a piss-weak defense as well. But it's perfect for this situation.


[25-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nuremberg Defense


[25-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467396-justice-dept-to-launch-criminal-investigation-into-its-own-russia#

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Justice Dept. to launch criminal investigation into its own Russia...
The Justice Department has reportedly opened a criminal investigation into its own Russia probe
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[25-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you want to ignore the findings, go rely on a conspiracy theory


[25-Oct-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to move out of the united shit of america please


[25-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://gizmodo.com/biden-forgot-to-buy-the-web-address-for-his-latinx-outr-1839316976

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Biden Forgot to Buy the Web Address For His Latinx Outreach Campai...
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden announced a new campaign yesterday called “Todos Con Biden” (Everyone With Biden) to help organize Latinx support for the former vice president. But there’s just one little problem: The Biden campaign forgot to register the we...
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[25-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[25-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.todosconbiden.com/

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Joe se olvidó de los latinos
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[25-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
joe biden's campaign forgot to buy the website name before announcing the outreach campaign


[25-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
so trump bought it out from under them


[25-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
> But it’s not just the web address. The Biden campaign didn’t secure the Facebook name and Twitter handle either, which are now controlled by the Trump campaign. The Twitter account includes clips of Biden saying things like “We need family separation” and “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids,” just two of countless gaffes Biden has made because his brain, much like the current president’s brain, is just a bowl of lumpy tapioca pudding.


[25-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[25-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
>When Trump undermines Biden so Warren can win :glowing_eyes:


[25-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are way more extreme in private than they will ever admit.


[25-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll get Trump vs Warren polls that show Trump with a lead and then all of a sudden oops all of coal country PA really wanted socialism I guess


[25-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
oof. :faceclaw:


[25-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
there's polls that show warren losing 49/51 to trump, but with the same poll showing bernie winning 51/49 against trump


[25-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
and I really get the feeling that bernie might once again be the only candidate who can beat trump with any extra margin of safety


[25-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now show that bernie loses to warren


[25-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
so there's no condorcet winner


[25-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Biden can beat Trump


[25-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he's basically Pence but willing to listen to minorities.


[25-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not willing to help them, mind, just to listen.


[25-Oct-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that new snafu is gonna hurt biden in that regards


[25-Oct-19 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this a minor or a major injury to his campaign?


[25-Oct-19 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That likely depends on how much he can turn around and play it off with humor. Which i;m not sure how Biden is in that regard


[25-Oct-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Well he survived the poor kids and white kids gaffe


[25-Oct-19 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I imagine he'll survive this one too


[25-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could openly say he hates blakk people


[25-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd still vote for him


[25-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their support isn't premised on believing he likes them


[25-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's premised on the idea that he won't push strongly for equal rights, so wall street won't try and burn everything to the ground in retaliation.


[25-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is the "keep the peace" candidate.


[25-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of my like from Warren comes from that the Zucc fears her.


[25-Oct-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elect a racist so racists don't get mad and start lynchings.


[25-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
warren is feared more than bernie because warren never improperly labelled herself a socialist, it's easy to dismiss bernie in the US because of how hated "socialism" is


[25-Oct-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
even though he'd likely do better in the election vs trump than even warren would


[25-Oct-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders is the candidate who in 1980's Europe would be called a champagne socialist


[25-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[25-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
he's not even a socialist


[25-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
all of his policies have been social democratic


[25-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
like norway


[25-Oct-19 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well he is proposing what is also the death of Taft-Hartley to the point that so long as you don't explicitly call yourself a Communist and instead use a more exotic term like Syndicalist you could potentially go on the war path with your union.


[25-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren also supports the PRO Act, which is the death of Taft-Hartley.


[25-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No Democrat running would oppose the PRO Act.


[25-Oct-19 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, legit take control of the pension fund again to such a degree the Union can also build their own public housing for members and tap into it for sustained and long term strikes.


[25-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Biden.


[25-Oct-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/harvey-weinstein-confronted-multiple-people-new-york-city-bar-n1071626

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Harvey Weinstein confronted by multiple people at New York City bar
The disgraced movie mogul was spotted at a Manhattan club during a performance and called out by at least three people.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_43/3002441/190909-harvey-weinstein-cs-920a_7aac91c4fb6185e800d769a959bbf49b.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-Oct-19 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
shame no one hit him


[25-Oct-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
preferrably with a milkshake


[25-Oct-19 07:08 AM] Jason Ratana#3875
Give me a reason why being a conservative is good in the first place.


[25-Oct-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
it's good for making sure that stuff that doesn't need to be changed isn't changed, but the problem is that there's so much stuff that needs to be changed logically that conservatives illogically argue against changing


[25-Oct-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
basically, a good way to think of it is that the civil war never officially ended, only went underground and expanded to denying civil rights to all "undesirables" and not just freed slaves


[25-Oct-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
they can't outright go after people of a certain political ideology, so they target homosexuals, transgenders, poor people, etc


[25-Oct-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
basically people who have some sort of easily attackable stigma associated with them


[25-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in a tribal society


[25-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
even though conservatives themselves are often poor, it's called "temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome" or some such


[25-Oct-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
what conservatism does is it reinforces ethnic cleansing of rival tribes


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
well, the males


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it shields you from their pernicious ideas while making sure you don't care about them as you rape their women and kill their men


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
they keep the females to rape


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, ethnic cleansing implies you spare the women to rape


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
that's the natural method of human reproduction


[25-Oct-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
suffice to say, it doesn't work well in modern days


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, without conservatism in a tribal society, another tribe conquers yours


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally kill or be killed, survival of the fittest, etc


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberalism's big problem in total is that it encourages seeking alternate ideas


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter to humanity anymore because humanity is "outside the cycle"


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
regardless of whether the right idea has been found


[25-Oct-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means that liberalism opens you up to potentially destroying yourself.


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is what fascists are currently preying on


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's illiberal to not discuss fascist ideas


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
I think you mean leftism, liberalism is technically a "conservative" thing


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but discussing them is what they want, with a bit of tilting, to brainwash people


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
both the democratic and republican parties were born from classical liberalism


[25-Oct-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-economic


[25-Oct-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, in a modern society, the big trouble is, we don't shoot each other


[25-Oct-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
we trade with each other


[25-Oct-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is highly mutually beneficial to listen to each other's ideas and intermingle.


[25-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a tribal society, refugees come in and change your culture, but in modern society, populations are ENORMOUS


[25-Oct-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and their main trouble is they need a constant influx of young people


[25-Oct-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as the don't fix what isn't broken side


[25-Oct-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That ties right in, liberals are likely to consider ideas even that clearly won't work


[25-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives' inherent skepticism can help uncover which ideas don't work


[25-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is, lots of conservatives leads to a stagnant society with tons of oppression


[25-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, minorities crushed under heel while no laws ever change except to make it worse


[25-Oct-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause conservatives *are not interested in what's best for society*


[25-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I get the feeling that if the US wasn't so batshit insane with its conservatives, I would likely be conservative, I'm pretty skeptical of trying new things that don't have some sort of fundamental reason for existing


[25-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not quite it, tho


[25-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives aren't skeptical cause of *reason*


[25-Oct-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're skeptical cause of *fear*


[25-Oct-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals tend towards reason, due to focusing on compassion for others, and being more altruistic as a result


[25-Oct-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your only skepticism is it won't help people, that's fundamentally liberal.


[25-Oct-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
I was arguing with some dude in another discord who was saying that the places where border walls were built at california/arizona/new mexico before trump was elected, he was claiming that the places they built walls reduced traffic by 97%


[25-Oct-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is about fear, paranoia, selfishness.


[25-Oct-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
I did find this https://www.kpbs.org/news/2017/nov/13/americas-wall/

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America's Wall
This project is a KPBS and inewsource investigation about the existing barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border ahead of President Trump's promised wall. Using previously undisclosed government data, we reveal the impact of construction over time.
https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2017/11/13/Border-Fencing-iNEWS_BQ_03.jpg


[25-Oct-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism is about compassion, empathy, altruism.


[25-Oct-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's towards *others* on both, note.


[25-Oct-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism has compassion, but it's for only those "in".


[25-Oct-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, mostly liberals with some conservatives to react with fear and make them step bakk a bit to reexamine is in theory ideal


[25-Oct-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you never really see that in human society


[25-Oct-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're adapted to default to being conservative


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because society while we were evolving existed on a razor's edge


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything was about raping and killing others before they could you.


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
> Our most conspicuous finding is a pattern we identified in the history of America’s wall: As it became stronger and longer, illegal cross-border flows of people plummeted wherever the barriers were built. But they didn’t stop. Instead, migrants and drug smugglers took different paths — into the desert, into the ocean, into the sky and underground.


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to stop humans from getting from point A to point B is a fool's errand.


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the border wall "worked" where it was built, but it only pushed people further out elsewhere


[25-Oct-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're too cunning.


[25-Oct-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you can do is make it more transparent and monitored.


[25-Oct-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will ALWAYS get in.


[25-Oct-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best security systems aren't impenetrable doors


[25-Oct-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're guards who actually write shit down


[25-Oct-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you know that "technician" wasn't supposed to be there, you can find out *that* he stole something.


[25-Oct-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, one thing to consider that might be interesting, @Crow, is that essentially Old Testament seems conservative and New Testament liberal.


[25-Oct-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old Testament: "Yeah we killed everyone who couldn't pronounce words with a sh". New Testament: "Maybe the rich are actually the evil ones..."


[25-Oct-19 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
thing is, this binary view doesn't really reflect reality. Neither in policy, nor in people's minds.


[25-Oct-19 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
and trying to paint b&w everything... I guess it works with rich and have-nots, because it's trivial to establish a cut-off line and make it binary. But that's about it.


[25-Oct-19 07:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it works in numbers (kind of and not often). Precious few things about human society can be quantified though, at least not today.


[25-Oct-19 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
US convinced it's population that life is binary. You're red, or you're blue. Or you're independant, which basicly means wild card and opportunistic ally at best.


[25-Oct-19 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
these last few years it really seems like it's not just Cold War that didn't really end for US. Civil war didn't either.


[25-Oct-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's likely the root cause for the majority of your issues. And the world's, as they try to copy and emulate your practices.


[25-Oct-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
no, not everything is black and white, but the whole conservative/leftist dichotomy is a very well-known and exhaustively studied phenomenon in human psychology


[25-Oct-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
you needed conservatives to make sure your tribe wasn't obliterated, and you needed leftists to realize when things needed to change and push the tribe to move on


[25-Oct-19 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
basically, without leftism, we'd still be feuding tribes roaming around africa


[25-Oct-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I just found out that alex jones still posts videos, but on like pornhub and liveleak


[25-Oct-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CTxzB_1571907238

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Liveleak.com - City Of Austin Now Microchipping The Homeless
Alex Jones breaks down the report exposing the UN connection to the pr..
https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_u/2019/Oct/23/LiveLeak-dot-com-5db12116f3ad0_thumb.jpg


[25-Oct-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
I hate that you need an account to view comments on liveleak now


[25-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
it would've been nice if there was at least some sort of message clarifying that


[25-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
saying "You must login or regist to view comments" or somesuch


[25-Oct-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
I had to google why I couldn't see them back when that happened earlier this year


[25-Oct-19 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/24/vice-president-mike-pence-says-nba-acting-like-subsidiary-of-china.html

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Vice President Mike Pence says 'NBA is acting like a wholly owned ...
"Some of the NBA's biggest players and owners, who routinely exercise their freedom to criticize this country, lose their voices when it comes to the freedom and rights of other peoples," Pence said in a speech.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106201616-1571932896958gettyimages-1177500545.jpeg?v=1571932923


[25-Oct-19 09:08 AM] Opponent#3498
well, at least there's some semblance of an official stance. I'd really struggle to pretend they care, but at least they made a statement.


[25-Oct-19 09:14 AM] Opponent#3498
if Trump wasn't that much of an unmitigated disaster, I would even wish people ditch the impeachment effort and focus on China instead.


[25-Oct-19 09:14 AM] Opponent#3498
but no, people have to see that through to the end, whatever it might be.


[25-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/judge-holds-betsy-devos-in-contempt-057012

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DeVos held in contempt for violating judge's order on student loans
https://static.politico.com/ed/ff/091aaa7e4fdbad48d30c3bb6a515/19830-betsy-devos-gty-773.jpg


[25-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
> A federal judge on Thursday held Education Secretary Betsy DeVos in contempt of court and imposed a $100,000 fine for violating an order to stop collecting on the student loans owed by students of a defunct for-profit college.


[25-Oct-19 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
> The exceedingly rare judicial rebuke of a Cabinet secretary came after the Trump administration was forced to admit to the court earlier this year that it erroneously collected on the loans of some 16,000 borrowers who attended Corinthian Colleges despite being ordered to stop doing so.


[25-Oct-19 12:29 PM] ononim#8141
>Mote


[25-Oct-19 12:29 PM] ononim#8141
I am not sticking my leg into Tartarus so I don't actually know what it is about him, but this word gives me Rationalist SUbreddit flashbacks


[25-Oct-19 12:32 PM] ononim#8141
ahh, false alarm


[25-Oct-19 12:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/24/we-checked-years-protests-countries-heres-what-we-learned-about-working-class-democracy/


[25-Oct-19 12:36 PM] ononim#8141
```We find that democratization is much more likely to follow mass protest movements that are dominated by the urban middle classes — and even more so when industrial workers are protesting. These groups often combine a strong preference for democracy (especially in urbanized societies) with the capacity to push through democratizing changes.

Industrial workers, in particular, can use unions, international labor networks and social democratic parties to coordinate powerful challenges against dictatorial regimes. Here, we agree with influential, in-depth studies of specific European and Latin American countries, which highlight the historical role of labor movements in pushing for universal suffrage and competitive multiparty elections.```


[25-Oct-19 12:36 PM] ononim#8141
```Yet the experiences in these case studies might have been atypical. Ours is the first study to investigate systematically whether the social composition of protest movements matters for democratization in a global sample of countries. We investigated all major mass protest movements around the world from 1900-2006, and recorded who dominated each movement — industrial workers, urban middle classes, rural laborers, ethnic groups, religious groups, etc.

The strongest finding in our study is that protest movements dominated by industrial workers outperform all other protest campaigns in bringing about democracy. Industrial worker campaigns also clearly outperform situations without any mass protest campaigns. There is some evidence that urban middle class movements are associated with democratization, but it is weaker than the evidence of the importance of industrial workers.```


[25-Oct-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dfcac962ccc84ef9a5c262ab6d740f53

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Inequalities in China drive many to seek better life abroad
BEIJING (AP) — Weeks prior to the discovery in England of the bodies of 39 people believed to be from China, Beijing was holding lavish National Day celebrations congratulating itself on its rise...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/72f7e58b9dfc435c92ac8844359e1d16/3000.jpeg


[25-Oct-19 12:40 PM] Patachu#0542
on contrary that's why you need borders.


[25-Oct-19 12:41 PM] Patachu#0542
running away forever instead of fixing the problem is not a solution.


[25-Oct-19 12:43 PM] Patachu#0542
«there's more integrism here in the suburbs of Lyon rather in my bled in Tunisia, at least women could go out without a veil» There you get it, people flee a situation to find it in the place they reach. What's the point.


[25-Oct-19 12:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Point is you cant fix your home country and must leave this damn place


[25-Oct-19 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china has a social credit system that makes you homeless if you sneeze in beijing;s direction


[25-Oct-19 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem is that china levies military force against any protests that arise


[25-Oct-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they don't have the ability to vote in a new leader to fix things


[25-Oct-19 12:49 PM] Patachu#0542
let's remain factual, there's a lot of rumors about China but I'm gonna go a bit Godwin in here


[25-Oct-19 12:50 PM] Patachu#0542
but during the 1930s, Germany was a huge factory country, so called socialist with a lot of corporatism, Americans used it for mass production of things in Europe. GE, Ford, IBM...


[25-Oct-19 12:50 PM] Patachu#0542
Many chemical, that's with that industry Germany managed to reach such power in spite of human rights.


[25-Oct-19 12:50 PM] Patachu#0542
If you control the production you have the power.


[25-Oct-19 12:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If you disrespect rights, you have power


[25-Oct-19 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the chinese people don;tcontrol the production, The chinese government controls it and forces all foreign corporations to bow to their will or lose their mass chinese market labor


[25-Oct-19 12:52 PM] Patachu#0542
It was neither nationalism, because it was the beginnings of globalization, serving the production of US and most Europe despite the political disagreements.


[25-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep and that's what must change. The people control what they buy.


[25-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Patachu#0542
The people should take back the control of what they produce.


[25-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Patachu#0542
The government should not get lower tax on corporations that does not produce in our countries.


[25-Oct-19 12:54 PM] Patachu#0542
The government should not hightax people who try to start business and rely on local production, the government should not drain peasants and workers like this.


[25-Oct-19 12:55 PM] Patachu#0542
as a HR consultant, I have seen some shit that makes me pissed as hell. People WANT to work, people work extra hours to pay their bills.


[25-Oct-19 12:56 PM] Patachu#0542
Macron is like "french are lazy" what do this fucker want? Here's the thing, he wants to have more control, to make people poor and depending on working more than 40 hours a week in the end and tax them, To compete, we should all in Europe live in the condition of China or India. Being paid less than a dollar per hour, and working 50 hours a week at least.


[25-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Patachu#0542
The right wing is dead. The left is even more dead. they just rallied Macron and made a fusion of their parties. Bunch of hypocritical cucks. The real left remains maybe Mélenchon... at least, and on the right wing here, Dupont-Aignan maybe. That's saying the state of "democracy"


[25-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This sad that these running costs such as human rights doesn't make things economically feasible.


[25-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Patachu#0542
yep, it's a fucking clown world.


[25-Oct-19 01:00 PM] Patachu#0542
TV tells you everything is fine, people live longer, you are happy, you have connected things everywhere, you have everything on demand, McDonalds, Adidas, iTunes, all kind of Google Toys, does that makes people more happy? 
Suicide rate : skyrocketting. 
Mental illnesses : skyrocketting.


[25-Oct-19 01:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even if you play sim city 4, you can earn a lot with low income with NO police, hospitals, fire statios... and not so much with police stations, hospitals, fires stations, unless you tax to death.


[25-Oct-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tv also tells you to go devour hundred dollar anti deppressants like candy, and to take your doctor hostage for them at gun point


[25-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's how world runs... Now you can ingest your escapism now.

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[25-Oct-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you can afford it!


[25-Oct-19 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just stop being poor you hapless fucktard!


[25-Oct-19 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now look at this man happily dancing with his daughter/poodle wife while we list horrifying side effects!


[25-Oct-19 01:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And cheapest is, you guess, booze.


[25-Oct-19 01:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why it is a problem in russia.


[25-Oct-19 01:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And drugs is another option.


[25-Oct-19 01:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why poor communities suffer these vices.


[25-Oct-19 01:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And if all fails, then suicide comes into equation.

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[25-Oct-19 01:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mental illnesses are skyrocketing to fuck because we are not biologically meant to endure this kind of fucking stress and pollution


[25-Oct-19 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oblongs is becoming darkly accurate


[25-Oct-19 01:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Will we evolve?


[25-Oct-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're still evolving, it;s a generation by generation basis, but  it's too slow to counter this sort of thing


[25-Oct-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we adapted to fit in the environments we had before this pollution mess, we are not adapted for temperatures this high and this much lead ,plastic, and waste in the air, water, and food


[25-Oct-19 01:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
eh who cares we all gonna die anyway


[25-Oct-19 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I care because I like living, and I live on this stupid rock


[25-Oct-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'd rather not die prematurely because some rich fuck needed a second gold plated penis for his face hole


[25-Oct-19 01:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
are u male or female?


[25-Oct-19 01:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause if ur male there is like 80% chance that u gonna die prematurely


[25-Oct-19 01:43 PM] byte[]#2610
@Patachu
> The people should take back the control of what they produce.


[25-Oct-19 01:43 PM] byte[]#2610
this is called socialism


[25-Oct-19 01:45 PM] byte[]#2610
also, I'm willing to humor you while you're here, but if I see any dishonest argument like you did with Mote/Patachu I'm more than willing to mute you from this channel, so do tread lightly


[25-Oct-19 02:39 PM] ononim#8141
what are our policy on (spoilered) graphic content?


[25-Oct-19 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
you can post it


[25-Oct-19 02:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/dmwtqm/complete_footage_the_iraqi_protestor_who_got_his/

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[25-Oct-19 02:49 PM] ononim#8141
Complete footage the Iraqi protestor who got his skull crushed with tear gas canister and smokes inside his head (Warning VERY NSFW)


[25-Oct-19 02:49 PM] ononim#8141
Iraqi protest body count is at 170 now, afaik


[25-Oct-19 02:49 PM] ononim#8141
FUN


[25-Oct-19 02:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
wtf


[25-Oct-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/summer-zervos-donald-trump-court-filing/index.html

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Summer Zervos shared allegations of Trump's sexual assault with la...
Summer Zervos, the former "Apprentice" contestant who has accused Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her in 2007, presented evidence Thursday in a new court filing to back up her claims.
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[25-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not exactly "new"


[25-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly, stuff like this will just galvanize conservatives


[25-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump's under so much attack, accused of doing so many bad things; that must mean the libtards and cuckservatives are scared of him!"


[25-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who's that?


[25-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-handshake-bobby-rankin-elijah-cummings-1467669

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Watch Mitch McConnell's reaction as pallbearer refuses to shake hi...
Senate Majority Leader appears shocked following apparent snub at Capitol service for 68-year-old who died earlier this month.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1539728/mitch-mcconnell.jpg


[25-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, I liked that guy.


[25-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Opponent#3498
he's pushing very slightly adapted Stalinism under the guise of political satire.


[25-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/24/student-loan-official-resigns-calling-for-massive-debt-cancellation.html

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Trump administration official resigns, calls for massive student d...
A. Wayne Johnson had been COO of the Office of Federal Student Aid, which manages the country's $1.6 trillion outstanding student loan portfolio.
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[25-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Opponent#3498
rebranding it to make it less obvious, and with an easy out of 'just a prank bro'


[25-Oct-19 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
'globalism vs local(ism?)' indeed 😂  Russia is fond of rhethoric like this these days.


[25-Oct-19 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
could you give me a little tl;dr on how student loans work? The name should be self-evident yet honestly nothing about US economy feels like that to me.


[25-Oct-19 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You ask for a loan that has _relatively_ low interest and you only have to start paying some time after completing your degree


[25-Oct-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[25-Oct-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, thanks.


[25-Oct-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you can help it, you go for the financial aid instead of the loan because the aid doesn't have a debt attached unless you flunk out. However each semester requires a certain amount of credit hours to qualify it.


[25-Oct-19 05:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
You need money to go to school? Get a loan for that as a student. Pays for tuition , books, board and other student expenses


[25-Oct-19 05:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
The trouble is "low interest" is not really low interest and people graduate mounted with loan debt


[25-Oct-19 05:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's older people I know who still have student loan debt.


[25-Oct-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s supposed to be low interest... loan companies missed this memo


[25-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-man-denied-sole-custody-of-son-7-as-mother-pushes-for-hormone-therapy-for-transgender-boy

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James Younger, 7, to have Texas judge decide fate amid parents' ge...
A Texas dad’s desperate battle to keep his 7-year-old son from undergoing a gender transition championed by the boy’s mother has captured the attention of conservatives nationwide – including the Lone Star State’s governor, who announced a review of the case by top of...
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/10/james2.jpg


[25-Oct-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and by missed, i mean shredded


[25-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, on the surface the system actually sounds fair, in concept. That's, apparently, until you get to numbers involved.


[25-Oct-19 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
A poster on the DB politics thread has complained about it despite being a working professional. And there's a photographer guy I know when graduated in the seventies or something that still has loan debt


[25-Oct-19 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m only able to go to college because i qualified for a pell grant instead of a loan. if i only got offered a loan i;d have said fuck it


[25-Oct-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2019/10/18/sallie-mae-student-loan-debt/

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Sallie Mae Flew 100 Employees To Hawaii, And You Still Have Studen...
Sallie Mae, the private student loan lender, flew more than 100 employees to Hawaii to celebrate $5 billion in student loans.
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[25-Oct-19 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile student loan CEOs go to hawaii to celebrate people being $5billion in debt


[25-Oct-19 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
this is literally american dream in a nutshell though :D


[25-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
like, as originally intended.


[25-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, looks pretty grim


[25-Oct-19 05:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, not gonna argue with that. We celebrate people like Jack "Neutron" Welch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Welch

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John Francis "Jack" Welch Jr. (born November 19, 1935) is an American business executive, author, and chemical engineer. He was chairman and CEO of General Electric between 1981 and 2001. During his tenure at GE, the company's value rose 4,000%. In 2006, Welch's net worth was...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/JackWelchApril2012.jpg


[25-Oct-19 05:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Notable for mass firings at General Electric to "streamline" the company and increase profit margins, and I think for saying something along the lines of employees have infinite juice to squeeze, so squeeze.


[25-Oct-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his head is anatomically fascinating


[25-Oct-19 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he can go fuck himself. None of my juice is for his grubby squeezins


[25-Oct-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
he looks like giuliani


[25-Oct-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a very smooth giuliani


[25-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/science/mars-landings-2035-nasa

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Humans can land on Mars by 2035, NASA chief says
NASA chief Jim Bridenstine reiterated his stance that the space agency will be able to land humans on Mars in the 2030s, going so far as to say it could be done by the middle of that decade.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/10/ContentBroker_contentid-8836b1c3eba44601a6a0cbd5dfd13411.jpeg


[25-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/world/europe/erdogan-putin-syria-cease-fire.html

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Putin and Erdogan Announce Plan for Northeast Syria, Bolstering Ru...
Russia’s leader hosted his Turkish counterpart as a U.S.-brokered cease-fire with Kurdish forces came to an end, underscoring Moscow’s emergence as a powerful player in the Middle East.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/22/world/22russia-turkey1-hp-promo/22russia-turkey1-hp-promo-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[25-Oct-19 05:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
We could land humans on mars in six months but that would be sending people to their deaths. nobody wants to be the one to send people away knowing they wont come back. Also humans are dirty and would ruin mars if they died there.

Need to figure out a bunch of things. mainly food so they don't starve to death before they get to mars and how to land with gravity and very little atmosphere to assist a safe (for humans) landing.


[25-Oct-19 06:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378658197638086656/637136976130342912/1571951052604.png

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[25-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/29/bodyguard-saudi-king-reportedly-shot-dead-friend-abdulaziz-al-fagham

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Bodyguard to Saudi king reportedly shot dead by friend
State TV offers few details on death of Maj Gen Abdulaziz al-Fagham in ‘personal dispute’
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[25-Oct-19 06:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnet.com/news/net-neutrality-court-ruling-states-can-set-own-rules/

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States can set own net neutrality rules, court says
A federal court upholds the FCC's repeal of Obama-era rules, but slams the agency for preempting state net neutrality laws.
https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/F0fHZEH6Vxnf91JLhgUvIgufOF0=/756x567/2019/08/09/83485821-0417-4f27-ae83-c09bf19031a2/net-neutralitygettyimages-892389052.jpg


[25-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/01/universal-orlando-resort-fires-despicable-me-actor-after-ok-symbol/3791483002/

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Family outraged after a Universal character made 'OK' symbol on 6-...
A family is shaken and looking for answers after they say a Universal Orlando actor displayed a hateful gesture in a vacation photo and video.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/10/01/USAT/b2d64712-bb17-4e5f-ba63-b701cc06bfa3-Blurred_image.jpg?crop=3023,1701,x0,y1161&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[25-Oct-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10039105/china-set-to-unveil-dongfeng-41-nuke-that-can-strike-us-in-30-minutes-at-70th-anniverary-parade/

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China unveils terrifying nuke that ‘can hit US in 30mins with TE...
CHINA has unveiled its “ultimate doomsday weapon” during one of the nation’s biggest military parades. The terrifying super-nuke took centre stage at a huge arms showcase held in Tiananmen Square, …
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/NINTCHDBPICT000527007068-e1569923184292.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1


[25-Oct-19 06:56 PM] Patachu#0542
Pedo? Excuse me I have better tastes than this degenerated thing.


[25-Oct-19 06:57 PM] Patachu#0542
filly better.


[25-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Patachu#0542
also @byte[] what do you really mean by dishonest? in which sense?


[25-Oct-19 06:59 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/charles-schwab-is-eliminating-online-commissions-for-trading-in-us-stocks-and-etfs.html

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Charles Schwab is ending commissions on stock trading and the brok...
Shares of Schwab fell more than 10% in response to the move. Competitor TD Ameritrade lost 26%, on track for its worst day since 1999.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103537719-GettyImages-166415252.jpg?v=1568217299


[25-Oct-19 07:00 PM] Patachu#0542
One can agree to some aspects on economy without being socialism. Liberal professions, being freelance, being your own boss, and relocalizing production, creating new businesses that will stay here and not outsourced isn't socialism.


[25-Oct-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
By dishonest argument I mean deliberately picking at strawmen


[25-Oct-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
And I don't think you understand what socialism is


[25-Oct-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
> The people should take back the control of what they produce.


[25-Oct-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
That is explicitly socialism


[25-Oct-19 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
That's it


[25-Oct-19 07:04 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm in control of what I produce, and decide to sell the price I want, or negociate the price of my labor, am I a socialist(working for the whole community) or a libertarian(capitalist)?


[25-Oct-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
They're orthogonal


[25-Oct-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/asia/china-military-world-games-cheating-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

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Chinese team disqualified for cheating at Military World Games
A Chinese team has been kicked out of its own Military World Games after other countries alerted judges to "extensive cheating" by the hosts.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191025104709-01-wuhan-military-games-super-tease.jpg


[25-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Patachu#0542
alright, how exactly do we get rid of China?


[25-Oct-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
Declare war on them is the fast way


[25-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah but we may die in the process. I don't like it.


[25-Oct-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
Unlikely


[25-Oct-19 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
US will eradicate the capital in days if it comes down to that


[25-Oct-19 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
But that's a really shitty way because it involves the potential for a lot of people to die, you're right


[25-Oct-19 07:07 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah even people who didn't want to live in this regime. (the 90%)


[25-Oct-19 07:08 PM] Patachu#0542
but if Trump gets impeached and Pence finds the big red button, heh ... hehe [laughs anxiously]


[25-Oct-19 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another way is to slowly kill their stranglehold on the international market... but they've tied a gordian knot around it so it;s kinda fucking impossible


[25-Oct-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Pence won't do anything to China


[25-Oct-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, all his callouts are just pr posturing


[25-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Patachu#0542
initiate a revolution


[25-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Patachu#0542
that would require CIA-esque manipulation, tricks and other things


[25-Oct-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other problem is china has no qualms about meat pastign their population


[25-Oct-19 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a suspicious amount of Republicans that didn't sign McConnell's thing


[25-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Condemning the process


[25-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Patachu#0542
or really decide to consume less or differently. the biggest problem is that we no longer really are in a capitalist economy, rare are the people who manage to build a capital without being a boss or a CEO of some company, or an elected official, we are entangled in a consumerist tyranny.


[25-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conveniently, every single one in a weak seat


[25-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Patachu#0542
it's not because you're republican you must follow a crowd.


[25-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Patachu#0542
same for the democrats.


[25-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats less so


[25-Oct-19 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DINO as an insult basically doesn't exist because more than one position is allowed


[25-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
It is capitalist


[25-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
In fact this is the endgame of capitalism


[25-Oct-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Corporate dystopia


[25-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Patachu#0542
what is the point of a capitalist economy when you only have monopolies and zero choices, and no possibility to even become an entrepreneur yourself? Because I agree, that's where we are at now.


[25-Oct-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean that seems to be what libertarians want


[25-Oct-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Even if they proclaim not to


[25-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Patachu#0542
and most important, governments funding these corporations with the taxpayers' money.


[25-Oct-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
The constant rollback of regulations that they ask for virtually ensures it


[25-Oct-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Businesses should not be government funded; if the continued operation of a business is necessary for society, the government should absorb its function


[25-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Patachu#0542
...nah, what libertarians really want is to choose to own our private property, and not a corporation's property.


[25-Oct-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, no, that's NTS argument


[25-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Patachu#0542
instead, corporations more and more absorbs governmental functions. here, fines and billing, taxes even, are collected by companies, which are corporations.


[25-Oct-19 07:21 PM] Patachu#0542
vivendi, suez, veolia, enedis, vinci, many corporations that makes billions are created to override what the government does.


[25-Oct-19 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Veolia fucked my city's water supply


[25-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Patachu#0542
or did, til a while. even forests are no longer public. Channels.


[25-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Patachu#0542
...yeah that's the case here too, they also made illegal collecting water.


[25-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Patachu#0542
the government supports this.


[25-Oct-19 07:23 PM] Patachu#0542
this is not freedom, this is tyranny. no one should claim dibs on anything. this is not the role of a corporation, there should be a legal framework about that.


[25-Oct-19 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Funny thing is I live in the states


[25-Oct-19 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
And I have a friend who is involved with the work Veolia does and I told him they fucked our water


[25-Oct-19 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
And he became an apologist for the company


[25-Oct-19 07:24 PM] Patachu#0542
..another thing, those megacorporations spread like cancerous cells and contaminate others. Like Vale.


[25-Oct-19 07:25 PM] Patachu#0542
...this, also, is not okay. that everyone can have an opinion and say "my job sucks" "yeah that company i work for is dishonest" but the training sessions to get in the mood of the corporation, watching videos, leaflet, catchphrases about the pride of working for like, Orange or a big group is insane, it's sectarism.


[25-Oct-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467473-trump-dismisses-need-for-impeachment-team-im-the-team

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Trump dismisses need for impeachment team: 'I'm the team'
President Trump on Friday dismissed the need for a bolstered team to defend him against House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.
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[25-Oct-19 07:28 PM] Patachu#0542
i don't think there's a word for describing all that. when I get hired for a job, I usually do it cause it pays and I like to do it, not like I'm gonna sit and watch internal propaganda.


[25-Oct-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Welcome to Corporationland!


[25-Oct-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
On your knees, fellow, and the CEO's dick will be with you shortly


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i worked for walmart for awhile their training did shit all to improve my skills it was mostly about telling me how fair walmart was, and how line lengths dont matter because all lines are equal at walmart!


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm sorry to say but don't get lots of big hopes about impeachment. Instead, if really you are a democrat, get a serious candidate that isn't a lunatic.


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Patachu#0542
like, Clinton.

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[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
the queues problem at walmart is interesting


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
they're finally fixing it btw


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i mean literal lines


[25-Oct-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like those questiosn asking which line is longer


[25-Oct-19 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I know


[25-Oct-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit had nothing to do with cart pushing


[25-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta share the new PebbleToss because wew


[25-Oct-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Patachu#0542
depends of the cashier. some don't take care of scanning 2, 3 times an item, some takes time to chat with customers - which is normal - sometimes it's customers who take the time to sort all things in their cart, checking the list, lot of stuff like that, there's so many factors... there, the solution would be to hire people. there's plenty of available positions


[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Whew


[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember the centuries of female slavery, and a form of entertainment designed just to make fun of women


[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the women riots, or when police hosed down and sent police dogs on women protesters


[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[25-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They did


[25-Oct-19 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but walmart doesn;t want to hire more cashiers. They want 2 or 3 cashiers to distract customers while they replace them all with robots


[25-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For suffragettes?


[25-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Suffrage protests weren't all peaceful


[25-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Police didn't fucking hose them down


[25-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Patachu#0542
@prism stryder(intexda) the big thing is on how everything is managed on the employment level. There could be a huge change. Imagine, you are paid whenever you go to work, just like you pay when you go shopping.


[25-Oct-19 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
it's fine. They remember it. They were there! They also remember personally kicking Hitler in the balls, and landing on the moon, and many other things after the stronger meds kick in.


[25-Oct-19 07:36 PM] Patachu#0542
You know a certain day you will make a lot of profits. Grab a badge and go to a shop work as the cashier.


[25-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Patachu#0542
if there's someone else already you find something else to do , help with the arrangement, the sorting on items, being completely independent.  Tomorrow? Nah not feeling like I'm gonna take my day off.  There would be zero planning, it would be entirely random, nothing contractual, you can quit your job if you don't like, just like you can quit buying a brand of cereals and pick another.


[25-Oct-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
That's difficult logistically to manage


[25-Oct-19 07:42 PM] Patachu#0542
...An employee database with standards on security. The biggest problem is unemployment. People can do a lot of things, and people are not lazy at all. There's hopefully people who hire fans for a brand development, or tech geeks, or DIY people in a DIY store, they know things you never learn in some business school.


[25-Oct-19 07:44 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah I really think it can be feasible just like we have a secure network for payment ( SWIFTnet and co. ) but another should allow anyone who can to work and team up. Need to build a house? All the region can join in. Everyone is basically considered a freelancer.


[25-Oct-19 07:45 PM] Patachu#0542
same for agriculture, production, the less you have intermediaries like distribution, transport and all. It's like Uber. the idea was perfect but people yelled because basically "not everyone with a car can become a Certified Taxi"


[25-Oct-19 07:46 PM] Patachu#0542
anyone who can drive can become a taxi. anyone who can fix a computer can work as a pro, and be recommended again, without being Microsoft® certified.


[25-Oct-19 07:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-16-high-school-students-mistakenly-injected-insulin-tuberculosis

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More than a dozen Indiana high school students hospitalized after ...
Sixteen Indiana students were rushed to the hospital Monday after they were mistakenly injected with insulin during a tuberculosis skin test at their local high school, according to school officials.
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[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
how the fuck


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Patachu#0542
how can this even happen


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Patachu#0542
ahd here goes the fuel for antivaxers...


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
DID THE NURSE NOT REALIZE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DRAW BLOOD, NOT INJECT FLUID


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
oh my goodness what the actual fuck


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I am consistently disappointed at people's stupidity


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
I bet she was certified though xD


[25-Oct-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
speaking of.


[25-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent Ben Carson is a certified neurosurgeon


[25-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
He's also completely retarded


[25-Oct-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Being stupid doesn't stop anyone from going into medicine


[25-Oct-19 07:49 PM] Patachu#0542
yeh that's the thing... people no longer care about their work, offices are filled of people who don't want to do anything despite people screaming for their dossiers to be managed by someone.


[25-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
what about many, many instances that either genuinly require qualification (any higher-end science-based industries really), or a production process that cannot be interrupted (heavy industry is like that in a lot of cases)?


[25-Oct-19 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people care about their work, they jsut don;t care for the fact that thye aren;t being paid a proper salary for it


[25-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Patachu#0542
"Any doctor here?" "I'm a doctor. in philosophy." "I think this person is dying!" "Isn't death inevitable?"


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well except school nurses


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
school nurses don't give a fuck


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Patachu#0542
At least I know a few companies who hire people really for their passion, and not being formatted in a graphics arts high school.


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
there are plenty of people who gives negative amounts of fuck intexda. This is just one example.


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Patachu#0542
What someone can do and what is in the resume are two different things.


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, true


[25-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
lower-end jobs are done because people have to survive, not because they care or think they should or are obligated to.


[25-Oct-19 07:52 PM] Patachu#0542
why is there even a lower end job? People need plumbers. Garagists. Nurses.


[25-Oct-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
because those things are done by extrinsic motivation


[25-Oct-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
if I was not receiving some kind of external reward to connect explosive flammable gas lines I wouldn't do it


[25-Oct-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
ever


[25-Oct-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[25-Oct-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my only motivation for hvac classes is the money i might get at the end of it


[25-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Patachu#0542
This is a fucking stigma that force students to get in debt and make a pointless college to end looking for a job where they are lost. They can quote Rand all day and cannot fix their AC themselves.


[25-Oct-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
What are you talking about lol


[25-Oct-19 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and this is the third problem. This glorious system of 'free labor at whatever' should include baseline 'free' subsistence level. You can do bumfuck all, and you will _not_ die. You want to do better? You do it because you WANT to, not because your survival depends on it. And this is pretty damn difficult to achive and balance out. We're not there yet.


[25-Oct-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't quote Rand all day for certain, nor can I quote Marx or any other well regarded philosopher


[25-Oct-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i eat therefore i starve- some philosopher, rand paul maybe?


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Patachu#0542
nah it was more like, an image of the guy in a business suit who studied sociology, all kind of things but have little to zero practical knowledge, and can't even change their oil.


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
he's adapted to modern society though.


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] Patachu#0542
personally, I starve therefore, I must eat.


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I can change my oil


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I can repair an air conditioner


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I can microsolder


[25-Oct-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I can build a wall


[25-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Patachu#0542
not a lot of 19 or 20th century philosophers really can describe or explain the world we live in today.


[25-Oct-19 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I can run cable drops and install toilets


[25-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
he has nessesary skills to survive in the conditions he's in. Change the conditions, he'll self-destruct.


[25-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
I used to have a lot of contempt for such people once. Then I understood.


[25-Oct-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't _need_ to know anything practical if you know you'll make enough money to pay for everything. It's just that simple. Money as an overspecialisation motive, in a sense.


[25-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Patachu#0542
i fixed this apartment and it's quite comfy now.


[25-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the best guy in any given industry is likely to be completely, totally inept in everything else. It's simply what it takes to be the best. Yet it doesn't really hinder him, as long as the conditions around him remain the same.


[25-Oct-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Keep in mind that a lot of these things require tools


[25-Oct-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
this is, I think, the greatest tragedy of modern society.


[25-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
To change my oil I need at the very least sockets, an oil pan, and a serpentine wrench


[25-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Recharging the AC requires vacuum equipment


[25-Oct-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Installing the toilet may require specific plumbing utilities (like to terminate a pex run)


[25-Oct-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Microsoldering requires hot air, tweezers, and a powerful light microscope


[25-Oct-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
of these maybe wall building is the simplest and you still need drywall, gypsum, screws, paint and primer


[25-Oct-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
how are you going to get all that stuff for a one off


[25-Oct-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
well this is easy. Rent the tools, or buy disposable ones, or buy a new set and stuff it into whatever storage space you'll have available (tools don't often get obsolete with time, at least defintely not quickly so you can reuse them later on)


[25-Oct-19 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
if it's literally a one-off job and never again (like toilet, hopefully), buying stuff for later won't fly. The majority of repair work you'll probably need to do eventually anyway.


[25-Oct-19 08:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Good luck dealing with *these* carmakers that make your car imposible to maintain even in garage conditions.


[25-Oct-19 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
what if you can't store them


[25-Oct-19 08:09 PM] Patachu#0542
that's where the idea to make cooperation easier. If you know an artisan or a DIY guy around, you can hire him for an hour or two.


[25-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And i've noticed, manufacturers in general try to make their stuff irrepariable without tools or authrozation


[25-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Patachu#0542
yep, that's also the thing about corporate dystopia


[25-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Patachu#0542
- nothing must be fixed - users should only consume and replace - sue people who dare fixing devices yoiu sold them.


[25-Oct-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s so you can;t hire a cheaper third party to repair it


[25-Oct-19 08:11 PM] Patachu#0542
this is even worse now everything is rented. renting cars, renting computers... renting everything.


[25-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And some governments make sure that one must have certificate to operate


[25-Oct-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apple started installing a bricking chip into their devices incase anyone tries to repair it themselves


[25-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Patachu#0542
true.


[25-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Patachu#0542
and a lot of other brands followed.


[25-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Patachu#0542
same for the epson inkjets. the excess ink reservoir fries the PCB by design, the ink also have a microchip that ensure more waste.


[25-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Darkdoomer see the issue with cooperation and all of this stuff is, it scales really, really poorly. On a interpersonal level, it's fine. Try to imagine a city running like this. I tried and I  couldn't.


[25-Oct-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
buying new inkjet printers is less expensive than buying ink


[25-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Patachu#0542
and they dare putting a "EnergyStar certified" label on their shit.


[25-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Patachu#0542
That's why my next printer will be a laser. My previous was a second hand color froml 1998.


[25-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I think printer stuff is corporate red tape related. Stationery consumables vs equipment replacement


[25-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Patachu#0542
everyting is designed to ensure the continuity at the cost of the destruction of the environement.


[25-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Patachu#0542
and overproduction, and planned destruction of  a part of the production to maintain prices.


[25-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"We live only once"


[25-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Seize the day"


[25-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point to care about future, if you will be gone by then?


[25-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Yeah. Sells really well into corporate profits focusing on short-term too.


[25-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Patachu#0542
that's why i think, the only way to get out of this endless cycle of consumerism is to invest on things that last. for that, we need people who can build things like that. There's still 2CVs on the roads, or Austin Mini, but how many 2000s car will still run today. My stepfather had a Renault Espace since 2002, in 2016 it was a brick, everything was failing. While a combi VW will just start like the first day. 

yes that's the big question, what are their point. What is the ambition of Bezos exactly? Of course it's their money they do what they want with it.


[25-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Patachu#0542
Capitalism is about building a capital and putting a value on everything. Having a capital you can give to your children


[25-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
shitty thing is, 'Seize the day' is also the antithesis of actually working in corporate environment


[25-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
you spend your life climbing the ladder for the reason of ????


[25-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To earn more


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To enjoy current life more


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Patachu#0542
Earth and nature are a capital, but at some point if you don't invest these billions in anything solid. What is the point.


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well. Unless you get to upper management, the grind just continues.


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Patachu#0542
"I'm in #1 forbes! I have a big diiick!"


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Opponent#3498
you grind more and earn more and then there's retirement and you're dead within a few years.


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the end.


[25-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Patachu#0542
Even at a certain point it's not even about money, it's about control.


[25-Oct-19 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
It's about proving you're the biggest douche


[25-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Patachu#0542
When you have the presidents and world leader asking you things politely in person. That's power.


[25-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some people have hardon for  dominance thingie


[25-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Patachu#0542
yeh. that's why monopolies should not be created. it's like gravitation, you have blackholes absorbing every star,  blackholes cannibalizing blackholes, and then everything is vacuum.


[25-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Patachu#0542
it's math. capitalism is as dumb as this, math.


[25-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Math rules the world. we need to deal with math


[25-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Patachu#0542
eeyup! that's why innovations in the method of consuming and producing everything, working, and all should be done.


[25-Oct-19 08:25 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Oct-19 08:25 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[]


[25-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Patachu#0542
If the bitcoin was indexed on a stable element, a stable value it would be a challenger to all the FIATs.


[25-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
that's also why there won't be any in our lifetime.


[25-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Patachu#0542
haha oh fucking zucc...


[25-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Patachu#0542
a zucc-controlled crypto is really what corporate governance sounds like.


[25-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Patachu#0542
fist they control the media, then they make their own money, then they have their own police "but I like their rainbow uniform ; it makes me feel prou- OUCH!"


[25-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Patachu#0542

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[25-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/25/us/felicity-huffman-release/index.html

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Felicity Huffman released from prison after serving 11 days for co...
Actress Felicity Huffman was released Friday from a federal prison in Dublin, California, after serving 11 days of a two-week sentence for her role in the college admissions scam, according to the Bureau of Prisons.
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[25-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucks over dozens of people


[25-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gets 11 days in prison


[25-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
seems legit.


[25-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Patachu#0542
>Dublin, California


[25-Oct-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving children, serve 5 years, if you don't get shot 7 times first


[25-Oct-19 08:30 PM] Patachu#0542
steal billions and you get on the Times magazine.


[25-Oct-19 08:33 PM] Patachu#0542
All of this is just begging for a world conflict to reset it all, and start on a more sane base.


[25-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
people say, yadda yadda modern values bring suicide rates up. Nah fam. Some people simply use their relatively newfound access to information to assess the world, not watch a fortnite streamer or Fox news. They see their fate, and they want out.


[25-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Black Trump, https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-50178788

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Kanye: 'I'm the greatest artist of all time'
The musician spoke about sex addiction, religion, Drake, and running for President in a new interview.
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[25-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"God is using me to show off"`


[25-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In case escapism failed them


[25-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
If God was real I wish he'd smite Kanye tbh


[25-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
What a pretentious cunt


[25-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only 3 GOP senators haven't signed on


[25-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd say Kanye is pretty qualified to be a Republican president


[25-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's dubious, actually.


[25-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
He might need to do something more than *urinating* on underage girls.


[25-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so if it's too consensual.


[25-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll also need to step up his corruption game.


[25-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That was R kelly


[25-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, dammit


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I got the Ks mixed up


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kanye was the one who did the shitty music award thing?


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
In that case, no he's not qualified at all.


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
All his scandals are too minor.


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like I think he spoke positively about Trump once and that was a big media circus?


[25-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, come on.


[25-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
How will you incite outrage of voters if all you're doing is being cringy?


[25-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Kanye wore a maga hat and visited the white house


[25-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
And sent black twitter into an uproar


[25-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
and then quietly renounced the GOP months later


[25-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, that's weaksauce.


[25-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't run on either party off that.


[25-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He has a clothing line


[25-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If he's blatant enough about running for president actually being a publicity stunt for his brand, he'll be on the ballot for sure


[25-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also was Mulvaney the one most recently ousted?


[25-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing gets the average GOP voter more moist than blatant, shameless, corruption


[25-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I swear, the first time I hear about these cabinet people, it's that they've done something that'll get them tossed out within a week


[25-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mulvaney is still chief of staff


[25-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then I wonder what the LAST ONE did


[25-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Were rumour he was being pushed out


[25-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then he went on that "quid pro quo is awesome" rant on LIVE TV, so his job's safe now


[25-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[25-Oct-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kanye is the Gay Fish

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[25-Oct-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Fish dicks


[25-Oct-19 09:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/xIkaguqmLgY

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Beyond Sex Work
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[25-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/467507-giuliani-accidentally-leaves-voice-message-about-money-for-reporter

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Giuliani accidentally calls reporter, leaves voicemail about needi...
President Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani appeared to accidentally call an NBC News reporter and left a voicemail in which he can be heard discussing money.
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[25-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pffff


[25-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd think it's _impossible_ to _accidentally_ call someone.


[25-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a butt dial.


[25-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
shenanigans are afoot.


[25-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
...or that.


[25-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I can see that. Oof.


[25-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the comments:


[25-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Which is worse? Republican ineptitude or republican crimes?"


[25-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
- "They're the same."


[25-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
- "Strangely, they're equally proud of both"


[25-Oct-19 11:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1187822110527381505

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Hard to believe today’s children have never known a time without Call of Duty. This endless war franchise has gone on far too long. When I'm president, I'll finally bring our developers back home to their families.
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[25-Oct-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/358d24d6b69f4bca993455d944bcbeff

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Judge: Justice must give House Mueller grand jury evidence
WASHINGTON (AP) — A judge on Friday ordered the Justice Department to give the House secret grand jury testimony from special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation, handing a victory to...
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[25-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That 2% might be a lot


[25-Oct-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c95a246226c2466a968add8bd2392820

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California utility admits it may have ignited fire
LOS ANGELES (AP) — California's biggest utility admitted its electrical equipment may have ignited a destructive wildfire spreading through the state's wine country Friday, despite blackouts...
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[25-Oct-19 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
it's baffling that US of all people decided that blackouts is an effective solution for, well, anything.


[25-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
especially wildfires. How bad the condition of lines has to be for that to occur? I don't think I've ever heard of something like this happening in Europe, even our mismanaged mess


[25-Oct-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not


[25-Oct-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just a way for PG&E to shift blame


[25-Oct-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/taste-of-the-climate-apocalypse-to-come

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A Taste of the Climate Apocalypse to Come — ProPublica
PG&E’s rolling blackouts probably don’t eliminate fire risk, and they actually could make responding to fires harder. What they largely do is shift responsibility away from the company.
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[25-Oct-19 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent


[25-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I've read that


[25-Oct-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
this is because PG&E is fucking evil and needs to be reorganized


[26-Oct-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Give PG&E over to the government if California and let its affairs become public policy. No more profit for them.


[26-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"(A)n impeachment trial is an exercise of judicial power," Howell wrote. "Contrary to (the Justice Department's) position — and as historical practice, the Federalist Papers, the text of the Constitution, and Supreme Court precedent all make clear — impeachment trials are judicial in nature and constitute judicial proceedings."


[26-Oct-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[26-Oct-19 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://jalopnik.com/does-tire-rotation-include-tightening-lug-nuts-michiga-1839270921 lol

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In what will surely go down in history as one of the most Galaxy Brain court rulings of all time, a Michigan appeals court determined that a tire rotation does not, in fact, include tightening the lug nuts.
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[26-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[26-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Yes, that’s right. The judges ruled that a tire rotation does not include tightening the lug nuts. It only involves “remov[ing] the tires and replace them on different axles or sides of the vehicle.” It does not involve using a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts, which the mechanic “forgot to do.” That is not a part of the tire rotation. Presumably, the judges also believe the doctor performed the open-heart surgery, albeit negligently, by not sewing the patient back up, or the chef performed the preparing of the meal, albeit negligently, by serving raw steak.


[26-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
wtf


[26-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine someone makes you a subway sandwich


[26-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but instead of wrapping it to get it to you


[26-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they throw the ingredients at you


[26-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That by these judges is "performing" the act of making you a sandwich.


[26-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine further you asked a waiter for ice water and he splashed it all over your chest


[26-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is "performing" getting you some ice water.


[26-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dumbest thing is Michigan has *very* specific rules about how to rule


[26-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
judges are supposed to when things are ambiguous err on the side of consumer and worker protections


[26-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was not followed here.


[26-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it's worker protection though, technically.


[26-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
not consumer. Usually those are mutually exclusive, too.


[26-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Usually they are completely unrelated, unless a worker is also a consumer


[26-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
consumers and workers are both protected from businesses that sell to and employ them.


[26-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Employers are generally doing horrific things that neither their workers or consumers are down with.


[26-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
well, this specific case is likely a blunder by an alcoholic mechanic. We get this type of thing a lot :3


[26-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Workers may be negligent, but they generally aren't *trying* to fukk over consumers.


[26-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
People being drunk on the job is fairly rare in the US


[26-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
what is not fairly rare is people being massively tired from long hours and odd shifts.


[26-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly by this logic, whatever blunder the worker makes, it's by default the fault of the employer


[26-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it _could_ be something else. But the employer is always the default.


[26-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
not sure how I feel about this idea.


[26-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a very good reason to do it this way


[26-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the worker is by default at fault, then the employer can giv shitty instructions to everyone, and use this as an excuse to fire


[26-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the employer is at fault by default, then they're incentivized to make the worker not make the mistake to begin with


[26-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same logic with why commanding officers are faulted for the actions of subordinates.


[26-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a soldier is doing something wrong, you need only look up.


[26-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, that's convenient for liberal narrative if nothing else


[26-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
and yet clashes horribly with everything else you've told before.


[26-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
like the workers needing special legislation, going case by case as to why specifically they cannot be fired.


[26-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
so the worker can't be faulted for his poor perfomance. He can't be fired for outside factors.


[26-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
obviously, there's ways around it but the general gist is pretty curious.


[26-Oct-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Work by technicians should be warrantied


[26-Oct-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
If there's a problem with the service you go back and get it fixed, nobody in particular is "at fault" and stupid court cases like this never happen


[26-Oct-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Why the company chose to fight it in court and not settle is completely beyond me


[26-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
that too actually.


[26-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
stupid decision born from _another_ stupid decision.


[26-Oct-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
If a tech leaves the oil pan underneath the car and forgets to plug the drain hole before putting the new oil in, then I drive the car off and it breaks down a kilometer away, that should be warrantied


[26-Oct-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
seems nobody likes dealing with liability


[26-Oct-19 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
(and before you ask, yes that happens. a lot more than it should.)


[26-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liability is a big mess.


[26-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no part of worker protection says not to fire people who are negligent with their duties.


[26-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to not be able to just churn thru workers while screwing over consumers.


[26-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually hav good reason for pruning your workforce.


[26-Oct-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
idk man, sounds like a libertarian dream™ to me


[26-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure churning through workers is an effective business plan in general. There are exceptions for when it is, but for someone directly responsible for quality as a mechanic, if you find someone adequate, who will not cause you extra headache, you'd want to hold onto him. Nothing to do with morals and workers' rights, simply basic logic.


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it absolutely is when the work is low skill


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a very effective business plan if your consumer is unlikely to remove their repeat business in favor of a competitor.


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Such as if they're unlikely to visit again anyways


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
or if they hav no other choices


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm, fair enough.


[26-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
if someone isn't doing exactly what you want, you can just fire them on the spot and replace them with the next moron off the street


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, restaurants screw up my order all the damn time, and often hav a new person in every time


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
this is how places like walmart hire


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I can't just choose not to ever eat at any restaurants


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
if you ever dare say the word "union" around management they frame you for theft and fire you


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since all of them do it, I don't hav alternate choices.


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
(this is illegal but it hasn't deterred them)


[26-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, remember when Walmart *closed stores* cause of unionization?


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm pretty sure they still do


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
all stores are company owned


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but they lost that particular case


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
what's funny is, as part of the settlement


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they finally allowed sizable union logos


[26-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in doing so just completely tossed like the entire dress code


[26-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So under that vest you can wear one of those cringy shirts they sell for $7


[26-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No doubt this helps them a bit with their "our workers only buy from us" ideal.


[26-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
(employee discount plus much of their workforce is poor as shit and so has no choice to begin with)


[26-Oct-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's rather infuriating


[26-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And management at Walmart gets special training on how to discourage unionization without getting into lawbreaking territory.


[26-Oct-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
now you got me curious. What would that entail?


[26-Oct-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a leaked video I posted in here a while bakk, it was...interesting.


[26-Oct-19 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically management has to eavesdrop in the break room, butt into conversations instead of just spy, constantly state that they feel unions violate the sanctity of the worker-management relationship, and report everything to corporate.


[26-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not offer specific rewards punishments for people doing union stuff.


[26-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
that seems... too pathetic to work.


[26-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
but, well, that's not the first time I'd be suprised by something like this


[26-Oct-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
people are very much intimidated by it


[26-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[26-Oct-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
especially extremely poor people whom it mostly affects anyway


[26-Oct-19 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're talking about coming up to people while they're eating lunch


[26-Oct-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
if they lose their job they might not get another one


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying unions are shit


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying that you feel personally insulted by the very concept


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while you hav direct authority to fire them


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah so basicly be jehova's witness with some power.


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
it's still rather pathetic.


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and sending constant updates to HQ so they could trigger something if it gets out of hand.


[26-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Jehova's Witness that could evict you from your home, but not legally over you not converting.


[26-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just *any other reason under the sun*


[26-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they don't like your haircut.


[26-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel I'm asking the wrong quesitons. Better question would be, what would it take to... involve a union in some way here and how would that work?


[26-Oct-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
you would need to get people to agree not to work at walmart unless a union was formed


[26-Oct-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem of scabs comes up again


[26-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the answer.


[26-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
not shift individual opinions but dissuade cooperation.


[26-Oct-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187861209942495234

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To Tim: The Button on the IPhone was FAR better than the Swipe!
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[26-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, okay, that's fair enough.


[26-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
...what?


[26-Oct-19 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
you can say that again.


[26-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Environmental_Quality_Act

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California Environmental Quality Act
The California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) is a California statute passed in 1970, shortly after the United States federal government passed the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), to institute a statewide policy of environmental protection. CEQA does not directly ...


[26-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
> CEQA has been criticized for being "abused" (used for reasons other than environmental ones) to block, downsize, delay, or gain other concessions from new development.
> 
> Residents use CEQA to try to block homeless shelters and affordable housing projects from being located in their neighborhoods; one study found that 85% of CEQA lawsuits were filed by organizations with no record of environmental advocacy and 80% of CEQA lawsuits targeted infill development; CEQA requirements have dramatically increased the difficulty of creating bicycle lanes on already existing roads; and unions have used CEQA lawsuits or threats thereof to force developers to use union workers.


[26-Oct-19 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
again, this is likely to be a universal issue across the world.


[26-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
various environmental/safety/whatever the hell else protection agencies are corrupt and/or tools of the corruption


[26-Oct-19 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
you can't just disband them as it'll be bad optics


[26-Oct-19 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's one of the (perhaps lesser but valid) reason some people doubt climate change.


[26-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
some people doubt climate change because the calls to action have been happening for decades, nothing drastic seems to have happened yet, and it looks like people trying to change things for no good reason


[26-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I suspect, however, that most of the people who doubt it don't fall into that category


[26-Oct-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
they fall into the "totally brainwashed by propaganda" category


[26-Oct-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageImperialism/comments/com6bx/an_outoftown_white_supremest_tried_to_throw_a/

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[26-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457

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[26-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
pg&e is fucking dead


[26-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
🦀


[26-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Is that... *five dollars* per share?


[26-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
for reference, pg&e started at 14.1250 june 1, 1972


[26-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[26-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Fucking christ


[26-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
they're about to shut off power to 2.5 million californians


[26-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
it lost 2.2 today, which was a 30.56% loss

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[26-Oct-19 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Official-list-of-California-cities-where-PG-E-may-14563340.php

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Official list of California cities where PG&E may cut power, begin...
Pacific Gas and Electric is monitoring a potentially severe weekend wind event that could lead the utility company to turn off power to 850,000 Northern California customers in 36 counties. When you consider an average of three people per household, more than 2.5 million peop...
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[26-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
welp.


[26-Oct-19 06:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1187803527629938689

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!! Rudy Giuliani butt-dialed an NBC News reporter — twice — leaving long voicemail messages in which he's heard discussing Joe Biden, business in Bahrain and his need for cash.

"The problem is we need some money," Giuliani says to unidentified man.
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[26-Oct-19 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9be5e5622dc54ea2aaf23e1aa639649b

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Pentagon hands Microsoft $10B 'war cloud' deal, snubs Amazon
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The Pentagon awarded Microsoft a $10 billion cloud computing contract , snubbing early front-runner Amazon, whose competitive bid drew criticism from President Donald Trump...
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[26-Oct-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/dUXIwbc

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Another snowy day.
https://i.imgur.com/cla0Rosh.jpg


[26-Oct-19 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6223da94ab9e4a109ea92283cb18d4cd

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Trump's company exploring sale of landmark Washington hotel
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's company said Friday it is exploring the sale of its landmark Washington hotel after nearly three years of ethics complaints and lawsuits accusing him of...
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[26-Oct-19 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
bit too late for that now.


[26-Oct-19 06:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
breaking news: washington landmark hotel sold to the unrelated Jonald T Drump foundation. Owner who resembles Trump in a mustache says he is not at all Trump.


[26-Oct-19 06:19 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah had the same idea. This or sale for cheap to bribe someone.


[26-Oct-19 06:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He likely thinks if he sells the hotel, all evidence of emolument magically goes away


[26-Oct-19 06:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which it perhaps could if a certain "crowned prince vladimir erdogan" "buys" the hotel off him


[26-Oct-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

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Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy
Government serves special interests, not people.
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[26-Oct-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
old but relevant


[26-Oct-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/aqkXHlj

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Get yourself some learnings.
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[26-Oct-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPLLC/status/1011002957406588928

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My dad was tortured by the Gestapo for 4 days and thrown in a concentration camp for being in the Norwegian Resistance. Growing up, he would tell me things he learned in the Resistance. I thought, I'm never going to need this stuff. Here's some things of those things #Thre...
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[26-Oct-19 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[26-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/bl80cji

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Who's wrong in here.... the people working or the managment taking advantage of that people?
https://i.imgur.com/7exAJuAh.jpg


[26-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[26-Oct-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
basically some big boss lady lording (ladying?) herself over the workers because apparently some of them are illegal immigrants


[26-Oct-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
> Regardless of your status people have rights, rather your illegal or not you have rights. And this company is taking advantage of that situation. This right here is wrong. The company is called xpo logistics. And the only reason why they're hiring illegal immigrants is for them not pay them overtime or holidays sic time nor vacations. That's the only reason. There is many of people with legal papers to work but the only reason why they dont hire them is because its expensive. Simple as that.


[26-Oct-19 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/25/facebook-breitbart-news-tab-alt-right

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Facebook includes Breitbart in new 'high quality' news tab
The social media site has received backlash over its choice to include a publication that has been called ‘the platform for the alt-right’
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[26-Oct-19 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43kp8j/lawmaker-kills-repair-bill-because-cellphones-are-throwaways

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Lawmaker Kills Repair Bill Because 'Cellphones Are Throwaways'
A New Hampshire lawmaker suggested that we shouldn't fix the $1,000 devices we buy and instead we will "just get a new one."
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[26-Oct-19 10:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this lawmaker seems broken, maybe we should get a new one


[26-Oct-19 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/politics/cuba-trump-admin-transportation-department-suspends-flights/index.html

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Trump administration suspends US commercial flights to 9 destinati...
Flights to nine destinations in Cuba, not including Havana, will be suspended by the Department of Transportation.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190130162413-venezuela-oil-cuba-0130-super-tease.jpg


[26-Oct-19 10:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/politics/grand-jury-impeachment-mueller/index.html

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Judge says impeachment inquiry is legal and justifies disclosing g...
A federal judge on Friday gave a legal endorsement to the House Democrats' impeachment probe into President Donald Trump and ordered the Justice Department to release grand jury information redacted from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190724145047-mueller-trump-split-new-testimony-super-tease.jpg


[26-Oct-19 02:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow The company here is at fault. They could do a dozen things differently to make quality of life better or not hire illegals. But they choose to do so because they can maximize profit margins. Where as the illegals are just there because they have no choice, fleeing from a country probably too meddled with to be worth remaining, because someone was looking for an opportunity to do this there.


[26-Oct-19 02:52 PM] Crow#5457
I was actually linking you the thing about the norwegian resistance


[26-Oct-19 02:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
On the other hand this is also per the market logic. A company can always have revenue but that's not profit and they have to make profit


[26-Oct-19 02:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/aqkXHlj
<https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPLLC/status/1011002957406588928>

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Get yourself some learnings.
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[26-Oct-19 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
it goes over the basics of forming an effective resistance against a superior force


[26-Oct-19 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
from the father of the poster who was a part of the norwegian resistance in world war 2


[26-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
it dates back to when trump was behaving more like he was dictator of the US


[26-Oct-19 02:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Seen it before


[26-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
that there's also another problem with illegai migration.


[26-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't about worker's rights. This is about 'we have papers, hire US not these subhumans!'


[26-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
with more migration this will simply get worse over time.


[26-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
either no jobs for illegals, or jobs where they compete with other bottom-tier people wth 'papers'


[26-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Patachu#0542
Most important in all acts of resistance you need something, a motor, a reason to keep fighting - even if the "government" kneels to the invader.
You must give up being a soldier that needs to obey orders, and become a warrior who fight for his own beliefs, and defend your homeland.


[26-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Patachu#0542
That's the real philosophy to win a war, and that's essentially the flaw in the germans. Without an order from their superior, they cannot do anything on their own. Same with most modern armies and that's just what to keep in mind. 
As soon you decide to obey and surrender your weapons, you side with the enemy and historically, become a traitor to your nation. Just like people who obey orders and defend themselves as "I got the orders to attack" are responsible for executing such orders.


[26-Oct-19 03:39 PM] Patachu#0542
Humans are individual beings, must behave so, and their actions must be considered so.


[26-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Opponent#3498
mmm. if only our actions didn't have any bearing on those around us, so we actually _could_ be individual. Wouldn't that be a dream.


[26-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep and it's a growing problem. It's easier to merge in the mass and mimicry, follow the same fashion, opinion than being true to yourself.


[26-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it was never any different.


[26-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
like, I literally cannot imagine the situation, where there ISN'T a group of people sharing resources and consequences of the actions of individuals.


[26-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
at best, when someone does a dumb, you can damage control that. Usually it's a painful process for everyone involved.


[26-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
at worst, there's no point running damage control anymore.


[26-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
you were right on the 'philosophy to win a war', or overcome any obstacle, really. Have a reason to do it. Unfortunately it has nothing to do whatsoever with 'problems of Germans and most modern armies'. The history taught people that trying to win a war on the world when your logistics suck, your economy sucks and you pride yourself on stone age technology supposedly making you resilient, is stupid and only leads to ruin. That was the primary mistake they made, and most others are inconsequential.


[26-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it was never about individuality. Or motivation (as they had plenty, courtecy of their propaganda machine, at least initially)


[26-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Patachu#0542
this is a bit something like the inverse Halon's razor, discussed a lot about it on zététique meetings, not attributing to malice what can be explained by stupidity, sometimes you have people who claim stupidity to perform malice. In the case of soldiers, or cops, some love to do anything they  want because not just the uniform but the orders. And reveals being able to perform all kind of atrocities and know they will be unpunished. «just doin mah job, sah! »


[26-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
and they probably won't ever be, if what they're doing is in line with the (un)official position of leadership.


[26-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Opponent#3498
not because this defense is any good, but because it's an excuse given.


[26-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah, that's also a big point.

However the advantage of a resistance is that they know their terrain more than the enemy, its satellites and intel, and know they normally can rely on the citizens as a backup, to put traps and being fed. It's been the thing for every modern conflict from Vietnam ( french were there too ) or Iraq, which was a disaster more than a success for the US and allies.


[26-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Patachu#0542
while the enemy will normally not be welcomed. unless some citizens will see in an enemy a way to remove the leader in place being their political opponent. So the question would be, a bit like the dilemma in Avatar, "is it right to surrender to a bigger power if it brings some kind of benefits, or must we defend our roots and sovereignty"


[26-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Patachu#0542
back then the right and left would agree to team up and defend their country against an enemy - regardless of the politics.


[26-Oct-19 03:55 PM] Patachu#0542
sure, in the end, the conflicts eternalizes and it's a war when the only point is to get the enemy tired and start seeing an impact on his economy, and even contestation. Like Bush saying "it'll be done in less than a month!"  literally years later...  "misshun accomplished... i guess.. okay gotta go now!"


[26-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Patachu#0542
@Teaspoon ha, we were talkin about this shitty legislation yesterday. THIS is why i'll never buy a "smart"phone. You know things are bad when corporations forces up laws, interfering with your RIGHT to repair things you own.


[26-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
that legislation applies to apple only, you can get android phones repaired at a fraction of a fraction of the cost at the third party repair shops


[26-Oct-19 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Rossmann has been railing on this for years


[26-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
apple is the only smartphone company that's trying to manipulate the market in that way


[26-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Patachu#0542
strangely it's Vice that posted this, altough late, since Apple kind of sued and prevented shops a bit everywhere from fixing their stuff.


[26-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
the other big market that fights against the right to repair are farmer vehicle companies


[26-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Patachu#0542
yeh, this is insane


[26-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Patachu#0542
ttyl


[26-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1071901


[26-Oct-19 04:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe this was discussed last night as well


[26-Oct-19 04:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is absolutely going to mean Robert Mangas is now under *very* close scrutiny from people who scrutinize things


[26-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scrutinizingly


[26-Oct-19 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://tenor.com/view/tempest-shadow-tempestshadow-mlp-pony-gif-9957990

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[26-Oct-19 04:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Chilean Energy

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[26-Oct-19 04:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
viva la mapuche


[26-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I had a dream the other day I broke my phone's screen somehow and an oily gel oozed out of the cracks and made it even harder to use


[26-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because LCD


[26-Oct-19 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I spent 3 minutes too many on this

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[26-Oct-19 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-banner-draws-mussolini-response-20728990

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Celtic banner draws Mussolini response as Duce's granddaughter cal...
Alessandro Mussolini wants 'Ducephobia' to be a crime in Italy.
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[26-Oct-19 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
```Benito Mussolini's granddaughter has responded to Celtic fans displaying an image of Il Duce against Lazio, insisting depictions of the dictator being hanged should be made illegal under Italian law. ```


[26-Oct-19 07:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30494/cartel-narco-tanks-heavy-weapons-on-full-display-during-battle-over-el-chapos-son

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Cartel "Narco Tanks," Heavy Weapons On Full Display During Battle ...
The weaponry used in a chaotic urban battle in the city of Culiacán looked more at home in war-torn Syria than in a country that borders the US.
https://api.thedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/guntruck-top.jpg?quality=85


[26-Oct-19 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/26/politics/impeachment-unpopular-swing-states-wisconsin/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fpolitics

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Impeachment isn't popular in Wisconsin and these 5 other key swing...
Just 43% of voters in these six states want to impeach and remove from office. The majority, 53%, do not. This means that the margin for not impeaching and removing Trump in these states is running well ahead of Trump's 2016 margin in them.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191024205113-trump-super-tease.jpg


[26-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just need to keep it in mind.


[26-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-the-public-stands-on-impeachment-one-month-in/

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Where The Public Stands On Impeachment One Month In
Welcome to Pollapalooza, our weekly polling roundup. Poll(s) of the week About two weeks ago, we wrote that impeaching President Trump had near-majority support…
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[26-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The early stuff is pure fluff, like 538 has been putting out for the last month


[26-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
however, at the end


[26-Oct-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Only 43 percent approve of the way Democrats in Congress are handling the impeachment inquiry, while 49 percent disapprove. However, the numbers are much worse for Republicans in Congress: just 30 percent approve of the way they’re handling the inquiry and 57 percent disapprove. And Americans say, 50 percent to 40 percent, that Republicans oppose impeachment because they are out to protect Trump at all costs, not because they believe he did not commit impeachable offenses.'


[26-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Pelosi’s net favorability rating (favorable rating minus unfavorable rating) is just -2, which is a big improvement from her typical standing in recent years (for example, in September 2017, it was -21). In fact, Pelosi’s net favorability rating is the highest it’s been in CNN/SSRS’s polling since January 2009, which certainly suggests coming out for impeachment hasn’t hurt her.'


[26-Oct-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not about polls, it's about electoral votes


[26-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not liked in swing states


[26-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not within the margin of error, it isn't liked


[26-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That will change readily.


[26-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize the officiality effect, Its.


[26-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment something is declared official by the gov't, people start to switch opinions to accepting it.


[26-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a psychological survival tactic to not anger the authorities.


[26-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they say something is banned, you make excuses about how it's evil.


[26-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they suddenly switch their tune, you make excuses about how it's okay.


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as impeachment is actually initiated, people will increase their acceptance of it


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if Trump's removed, they'll increase acceptance of that, too.


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think an impeachment trial with acquittal would make the Senate GOP look super terrible


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially if they don't really give anything a chance


[26-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
People's opinions would accept the impeachment


[26-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the acquittal would somewhat nudge them to not accept removal


[26-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
but *not by enuff*


[26-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, half of Americans believe that Republicans are just trying to protect Trump.


[26-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We had a judge saying that the impeachment inquiry is completely legal


[26-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And we had Graham say "God help future presidents" but I'm like


[26-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Impeachment _should_ be this easy


[26-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Future presidents _should_ fear it


[26-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
`If they say something is banned, you make excuses about how it's evil.
If they suddenly switch their tune, you make excuses about how it's okay.`


[26-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
how did you even come up with this idea?


[26-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
is US, or the West, this fucking bad in terms of sheeple really?


[26-Oct-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
absolutely


[26-Oct-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
related: my psych book had this image in it and I wanted to share it here

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[26-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
well then, anything else they do then, the worship of laws, muh freedoms, muh symbols, none of it matters.


[26-Oct-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
it's about groupthink


[26-Oct-19 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
chinese will simply move in and take them.


[26-Oct-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
this is from the chapter on obedience


[26-Oct-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
which I suppose is telling what I think of people in general


[26-Oct-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
hah, people say SU was all groupthink and brainwashing.


[26-Oct-19 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
(I have some pretty... strong opinions on obedience, and the concept has never really applied to me, because my autism is pretty intense and I generally do not give a crap what other people think)


[26-Oct-19 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[26-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I can definitely say from many, many sources including a wealth of first-person stuff, dating back to like 70ies or even further, this was not even in the same ballpark.


[26-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
a horrible totalitarian state that murders anyone or stuffs them into Gulags, with more personal freedom that modern West.


[26-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yay America.


[26-Oct-19 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
it's easier to make a sheeple out of an ignorant populace


[26-Oct-19 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
which has been the goal of politicians for decades: to eliminate higher education


[26-Oct-19 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
of course they don't say it outright, and make token motions to fund it


[26-Oct-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but then do reacharounds like _pulling funding from underperforming schools_


[26-Oct-19 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  not sure if you know already, but since you post about similar things in the past  https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/dmyzaa/outrageous_analysis_shows_17_billion_payout_for/

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[26-Oct-19 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> Analysis Shows $1.7 Billion Payout for WeWork CEO Equal to Years of Salary for Company's Expected 4,000 Laid Off Workers


[26-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shit like this is horrible.


[26-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shitting on Mike Rowe is a guilty pleasure for me.


[26-Oct-19 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
fixed https://i.imgur.com/lUrDgVz.jpg

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The S.W.E.A.T. Pledge
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[26-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thanks


[26-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He became a conservative icon because of a meme


[26-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you mock Bill Nye for saying he's a scientist, why don't you mock Mike Rowe for saying he's blue collar?"


[26-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then he chimed in with his "oh I care about American workers" thing and then Prager hired him


[26-Oct-19 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Fundamental attribution error, eh


[26-Oct-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I hope I get to keep this book after the class is over, but no guarantee on that


[26-Oct-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
(it's an online textbook)


[26-Oct-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I would like to continue referencing it


[26-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Patachu#0542
Generally speaking, I don't get your hate about conservatives.


[26-Oct-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
whose


[26-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Patachu#0542
Assimilating any right-wing person to a nazi. That's kind of why I gave up siding with the antifas around here. the «everyone else is against us»


[26-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Patachu#0542
Far right, and like, Soral fans here have this mentality, everything being a zionist conspiracy.


[26-Oct-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
??


[26-Oct-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not every right wing person is a nazi, but every nazi is right wing


[26-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Patachu#0542
I must add, this is from a french PoV. Might be a bit different in the states.


[26-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
if you try to advocate for something, it's easier to first reduce the issue to 'us vs them'


[26-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
it's easier to understand, to argue, to rally people behind that.


[26-Oct-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i mean nazi-ism is literally a right wing ideology.


[26-Oct-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s entiely about authoritarianism, suppression, oppression, and hierarchy


[26-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno, I just think anyone that thinks a person is a lesser being due to conditions of birth beyond their control, such as sex, orientation, race, nationality, or the like, deserves to be dragged out into the street and whipped until bled raw ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[26-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Patachu#0542
National Socialism itself is an oxymoron. Nationalism isn't invading antoher nation, and socialism isn't about trading with American corporations, the term itself is ill. And it still exist. In a sense, Saudi Arabia and gulf countries are ran like that


[26-Oct-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they only called themselves socialists to lure the socialists out to kill them


[26-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
National Socialism isn't a term that was designed to make sense.


[26-Oct-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it does 'national' well. Uniting the nation on the idea of the race.


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
it does socialism... decently, there's no class conflict, we're all of the same race, it's THEM who is a problem


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but in general, it's neither and it's not about it


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s entirely about nationalism, the socialism part was added to help it spread, and thne when it outlived it's usefulness, they hunted down the dirty socialists like rats.


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
many countries unite around fearmongering.


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Patachu#0542
I wish they were nationalism, whatever happens in krautland would not interfere with others, but hey, they did regardless. "we need this country and our ideology is so great we must apply to all Europe"


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
US with their Red Scare etc


[26-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
SU with their muh capitalism is coming to take your wives


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm sure Russians also were scared having thermonuclear missiles pointing at them.


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well they just thought their nation was larger than the borders other countries contained them in, is all


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Patachu#0542
and they still are.


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
this is no different. The _only_ reason why nazis were ever different, is they put their money where their mouths were, big time.


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
(and then they lost the world war)


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then the rest of the world was necessary fuel to keep their nation on top


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
(so both Western and Eastern propaganda machines worked for decades vs that)


[26-Oct-19 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing discordant with "nationalism" in that thinking, really


[26-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They didn't call themselves the National Isolationists or whatever


[26-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Patachu#0542
Socialism is like a cement to unite a nation under a governmental authority, the idea of having the corproations under control of the workers never been achieved.


[26-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Patachu#0542
It's just bait


[26-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Patachu#0542
And even today far-right and far-left are being lured to this.


[26-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
more or less, yeah. Things always shift back to corporations being in power.


[26-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is a co op


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God fucking forbid there be a system that doesn't have people tossed over the side and ground to bonemeal the instant they break a leg or their factory closes


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
unless the economy is so bad you're living in stone age :D


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Patachu#0542
Just a form of local corporation where investors are also the actual workers.


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Humans are naught but another resource, cattle but needier, after all


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
@Tea if you can't have 'them vs us', things become complicated.


[26-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Patachu#0542
Which is a good idea when you believe in what you do and trust your productivity.


[26-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
thing with join ownership of stuff is, it scales _horribly_


[26-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
you can run a town like that. A city, you probably can't.


[26-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
forget about running a nation.


[26-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
you can run a 10-man op like this. 30-man mmmmmmmmaybe.


[26-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
100 man forget it.


[26-Oct-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and not everything translates well into small decentralised production


[26-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
again, heavy industry and hi-tech production/innovation/research are two big ones that don't.


[26-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep, sadly. But that's more a management thing.


[26-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Patachu#0542
Politics should not interfere with that, just guaranteeing if you work, you get paid.


[26-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
idk man


[26-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Patachu#0542
And not drown your business in taxations, ensure you can sleep in your apartment if you need to move and not spend all your dosh in a hotel room. That also is a thing.


[26-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
coops seem to be working out fine


[26-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Patachu#0542
For many things yes. Many companies here are coops. We make cheese, wines, good food, but they have a bad time, most of it is hightaxed, which makes the prices hard to compete with everything industrially produced.


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Patachu#0542
Especially under Hollande, a «socialist.»


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're not making enough money to start a war and boast about billions in profit for a CEO, does it really matter that the workers are well fed and happy?


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, workers don't matter, after all


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who cares if they're doing well


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Patachu#0542
Without workers what do you do.


[26-Oct-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What matters is that the shareholders are pleased


[26-Oct-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The purpose of a company is to make money for its investors, not keep its workers alive


[26-Oct-19 10:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Workers are repalceable


[26-Oct-19 10:22 PM] Patachu#0542
hah but that's another part of the business, you need people to make things, to follow your idea of what to do and what should sell. Also yes, investors.


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
what if the point of your business is to make one thing


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There a lot of people at the door waiting to take over anyones place


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
your investors will get pissed if there's no yoy growth


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
but that doesn't mean the business is doing something wrong


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a big problem with the market


[26-Oct-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
this force is how you get conglomerates


[26-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Patachu#0542
Then you're no longer the boss, your investors are controlling your business cause you preferred to make too much money, and lost your vision. You end up producing gadgets in China and kneel for the popular thing.


[26-Oct-19 10:24 PM] Patachu#0542
And you only exist without a factory but offices.


[26-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's what world is moving towards. Optimization, Maximization, Minimization.


[26-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I honestly don't know where did the idea of _growing_ profits even came from. I assume, it's growing percentage, or constantly expanding scale of production, and not simply a little bit of growth to account for inflation.


[26-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If you have noticed, OR became a big thing


[26-Oct-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's the thing, CEOs aren;t the boss anymore, a board of directors and their stock holder army usually are, which is why they pay billions in salaries to CEOs to keep them satisfied and happy


[26-Oct-19 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't seem possible to profits to grow indefinitely.


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it isn;t possible, eventually capitalism is going to hit a wall and crash hard


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
no, but someone somewhere decided it is?


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Are there any recorded instances?


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
profits cannot grow indefinitely


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
but this is the neoliberal ideal


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
that they will grow indefinitely


[26-Oct-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
_AT ALL COSTS_

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[26-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It can grow definitely.


[26-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Patachu#0542
CEOs don't even have the ambition of creating works or creating anything good anymore. Look how Chen destroyed Blackberry. Or how many companies are drowning because they prefer not to adapt to a certain market...  That's for tech but the same model is for almost - sadly - everything.


[26-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Businesses specialize on making money out of ass.


[26-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Patachu#0542
Basically, this.


[26-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why moving to XaaS


[26-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Patachu#0542
And government are like, "yess keep doing that, so we can have a part of the cake? fire more people" in the media : "how dare you fire 8500 employees!" haw~


[26-Oct-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
physical retail is starting to hit a strain because thye don't pay their employees enough to re-invest paychecks through nessicity shopping


[26-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Patachu#0542
That's the big thing we are heading to : Everything will become just a world of "services"


[26-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Patachu#0542
licenses, market, pr, virtual stuff


[26-Oct-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
nah


[26-Oct-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on top of that they aren't hiring enough people to keep up with anything and all the cashioers are being replaced with obots


[26-Oct-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
everything will tank before then


[26-Oct-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
governments will have to start housing and feeding their populations


[26-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Patachu#0542
Hah, I hope, because we cannot survive like that. That's a big crunch.


[26-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Patachu#0542
Even more, finding customers who can afford the corporate products. Who still manage, like Google and co. to make it affordable - thanks for the Big Data, you literally work for Google or MS when you use their products.


[26-Oct-19 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, so do we all by using discord


[26-Oct-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
they use google analytics and their servers are hosted by GCP


[26-Oct-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I prefer IRC but nobody wants to use it


[26-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep perso I always preferred IRC too


[26-Oct-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Iwant to use IRC, but it won;t let me in


[26-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Patachu#0542
I even wanted to start an alternative to Discord earlier adding video and all to some IRC-based client but I suck at programming. :<


[26-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Problem with IRC is shitty set up in browsers, especially mobile.


[26-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Tried 3rd party clients, too much hassle. spend 2 hours without results


[26-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Patachu#0542
...Because it didn't really evolve much - in a sense, why not. We might one day need to go back to basics.


[26-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Patachu#0542
(No idea if people there heard of a term like "collapsologie")


[26-Oct-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kiwi IRC literally won't let my client connect


[26-Oct-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
yes I've heard of it


[26-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Patachu#0542
my ex kept talking about the collapse of society and got me into that a few years ago,


[26-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/26/politics/amazon-donald-trump-jim-mattis-pentagon-contract/index.html

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Trump ordered Mattis to 'screw Amazon' on Pentagon contract, accor...
A new biography of former Defense Secretary James Mattis reports President Donald Trump personally got involved in who would win a major $10 billion contract to provide cloud computing services to the Pentagon, according to the website Task & Purpose, which writes about milit...
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[26-Oct-19 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
>do blatantly illegal thing


[26-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Patachu#0542
it's survivalism but more understanding how to rebuild the society.


[26-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Patachu#0542
>Pentagon >Amazon

they should have kept those floppies instead of using Amazonaws cloud service for these codes..


[26-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. If it really comes to that, well, it'll be fun living in a permanent planet-wide warzone until you eat a bullet or contact infection, but it sure as sugar beats trying to actually _rebuild_ anything


[26-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like Fallout but without nukes


[26-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Patachu#0542
the far-west, basically. Many countries are kind of already into warzones. and not just in the third world. Russia, South america... Some of Europe...


[26-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Patachu#0542
It's this, or the NWO everyone also fears. A solid big gov like China's but everywhere


[26-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
China could do it.


[26-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Patachu#0542
mass surveillance and all helping citizens with a social score.


[26-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
if anyone could at this stage.


[26-Oct-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm reasonably certain that's their endgame.


[26-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Patachu#0542
That might not last but i fear we may see something like that in our lifetime.


[26-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Patachu#0542
Note : NWO does not imploes all the illuminati bullshit. It's more easier than that and fits in a pocket.


[26-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This works for simpletons only.


[26-Oct-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
lots of simpletons round these parts


[26-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
USSR is great example


[26-Oct-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't like the saying "people are dumber than you think they are"


[26-Oct-19 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
but it seems that... in general, yes they are


[26-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As long you are functional member of the system, you are provided. When you go outside intended framework, all of problems are  yours.


[26-Oct-19 10:49 PM] Patachu#0542
@byte[] I'd say it's even worse, people are encouraged to be dumb, and ingorant on a LOT of things. Dumbing down is alos a thing.


[26-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep and that's why as soon you dare exiting the system, people into it will do all they can to keep you in.


[26-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Patachu#0542
"Don't go there, there might be dragons" "we always did it that way, it works that way"


[26-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's a "nice" way.


[26-Oct-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
crab bucket is a very real phenomenon


[26-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
One of examples, music.
If you make "non-approved" music, your distribution channels will be reduced to underground, you and people who you know will be under pursuit by authorities. This happened a lot to rock artists in USSR.


[26-Oct-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
it takes quite a bit of autism to reject the crab bucket mentality


[26-Oct-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
as most people invariably end up sucked into it


[26-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do I want to google that term or am I depressed and angsty enough for today already


[26-Oct-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

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Crab mentality, also known as crabs in a bucket (also barrel, basket, or pot) mentality, is a way of thinking best described by the phrase "if I can't have it, neither can you". The metaphor is derived from a pattern of behavior noted in crabs when they are trapped in a bucke...
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[26-Oct-19 10:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah


[26-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sound like a case of envy


[26-Oct-19 10:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And that one used by P2W game makers


[26-Oct-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
envy, tribalism, status quo is god, ect


[26-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a good thing I'm the right mix of narcissistic and lazy so I don't care if other people succeed over me

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[26-Oct-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm generally happy when people find success in things they aim for even if i'm in no way that succesful


[26-Oct-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a different thing


[26-Oct-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
tall poppy phenomenon


[26-Oct-19 11:00 PM] Patachu#0542
@Эᴚ|∫ I fear that is what may be the finality of the EU's article 13. ( for the stick, and theor EU "creative funds" as the carrot. )


[26-Oct-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but essentially crab bucket is more like one member trying to rise out of a community that;s hurting itself and them, and then the community doing all it can to drag thme back down to it;s level


[26-Oct-19 11:06 PM] Patachu#0542
@prism stryder(intexda) yeah we have the same term here, a bucket of crabs. That's what it's like.


[26-Oct-19 11:39 PM] Patachu#0542
https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/RC-017908/urbex-rouge/ brutalismgasm~

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Urbex Rouge - Culture et pop | ARTE
Le 9 novembre 1989, le mur de Berlin chute. En Europe de l’Est, les grands bâtiments du communisme sont désertés, pillés, oubliés. Aujourd’hui à l’état de ruines, ces décors à la fois spectaculaires et menaçants, sont restés figés dans le passé. Du sanatori...
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[27-Oct-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/1186790526458224640?s=20

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I'm so glad Obsidian is back in the FPSRPG game and punishing the player for these sort of bloodless, cowardly moral compromises-for-their-own-sake.
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[27-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Mikey#7286
What


[27-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Compromise and the workers lose


[27-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kill the town run by corporatist who only lets people eat fish, or kill the outcast town


[27-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Compromise only benefits the corporation, not the workers


[27-Oct-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It shames you for being in the center


[27-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Oh


[27-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Is that good or bad


[27-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends on your stance


[27-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Mikey#7286
Well I see a lot of people say being center is bad


[27-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Mikey#7286
And isn't a genuine stance


[27-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The definition of "center" is very variable


[27-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here the game doesn't want compromise


[27-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Center can mean "compromise with everyone" or it can mean "hold multiple extreme positions generally held by people on opposite sides"


[27-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Grind the worker under the boot or liberate them


[27-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Mikey#7286
Tbh it's impossible to compromise with everyone


[27-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Centrists are generally far more right friendly than left friendly


[27-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're extremist friendly


[27-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've yet to see a centrist that reacts to left wing views the same as right


[27-Oct-19 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
They're exrtemly friendly to the status quo


[27-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically right wing but afraid to say it


[27-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how everyone will say they are middle class


[27-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Mikey#7286
^my point onon


[27-Oct-19 12:43 AM] Mikey#7286
Being center doesn't really get progress


[27-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Under the definition of center = compromise, yes


[27-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Centrists will always give a chance to or validate the views of the right but never the left


[27-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Compromisers will want to keep the status quo first because that's the current peace, then side with the most extremists when that doesn't work


[27-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is crab mentality also "If no one can win, everyone should lose"


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
Well It sounds like outer worlds actually gives you consequences for your actions


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to wait for a sale but don't know how often things go on sale on EGS


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/scpink8izwu31.jpg

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[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just gamepass it


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Roasted


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Mikey#7286
I got it via gamepass for $1


[27-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Need to look into gamepass


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Great deal tbh


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How does it work?


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
You buy Xbox gamepass on windows 10


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
First month is $1


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You pay a buck, you get access to download and play whatever games they have in the library


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Every month after id is $5


[27-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cool


[27-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a fair number of all sorts


[27-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Yeah a decent selection of games


[27-Oct-19 12:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it compromise? Rather sounds like hook on business strategy.


[27-Oct-19 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/bg7ap5fyrvu31.png

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[27-Oct-19 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[27-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's rather "Capital: We can fire half of workers"


[27-Oct-19 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫  Reduce redundancy, and let them find more meaningful work.*


[27-Oct-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
OOPS https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/world/asia/hiv-aids-pakistan-ratodero.html

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By Zia ur-Rehman and Maria Abi-Habib
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/world/asia/hiv-aids-pakistan-ratodero.html
Panic in Pakistani City After 900 Children Test Positive for H.I.V.
Health workers say the reuse of syringes drove the outbreak in the city of Ratodero.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/27/world/27pakistan-hiv-1/00pakistan-hiv-top-facebookJumbo.jpg


[27-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[27-Oct-19 12:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That is what exactly happens here at the moment in banking sector...
Banks moved to online mediun and shut half of their walk-in branches.


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, antivaxers swoop in


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So gamepass is a Netflix for games


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Take note, Stadia


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, you download the games


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
*Sigh* GaaS


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not streamed


[27-Oct-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even better


[27-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, cat on keyboard.


[27-Oct-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Having to pay a monthly fee for Stadia AND pay for the game is crazy


[27-Oct-19 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
> I worked with 7 Pakistani doctors. I cannot say all are under qualified based on my anecdotal experience but the ones I worked with were a fucking mess. 1 Pakistani doctor was so clueless she would ask me to diagnose simple things like blatant hand foot and mouth. I've seen them BRUTALLY fuck up sutures and EVERY one of them prescribed antibiotics for goddamn near everything. Cold-Antibiotics, Flu-Antibiotics, Diabetes?-Antibiotics... (I'm not joking). Management didn't care at all. It was absolutely infuriating.


[27-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Awesome


[27-Oct-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just give out antibiotics like candy to the world's second largest population, that'll work out swell


[27-Oct-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Medical schools there are probably awful


[27-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy


[27-Oct-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
One of the medications for AIDS, Daraprim (pyrimethamine) was the one Martin Shkreli became infamous for


[27-Oct-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
It went from US$0.01 per pill to US$750 per pill


[27-Oct-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
because he said so


[27-Oct-19 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
We live in a corporatist dystopia

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[27-Oct-19 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh the world's got way more Shkrelis than the media makes it seem be


[27-Oct-19 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
The amortized cost of production for a 2.5mg tablet of pyrimethamine is about $0.005


[27-Oct-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every pharma corporation is a shkreli right now


[27-Oct-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
In the US yes


[27-Oct-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Overseas no


[27-Oct-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
For example in Luxembourg there is a fixed list of drugs that can be sold and that list includes the price, in €, that they can be sold at


[27-Oct-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Most of them are partially or completely reimbursed by the government


[27-Oct-19 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Ben Shapiro is desperate for feet pics https://i.imgur.com/ttXRHmg.jpg

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[27-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[27-Oct-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm counting this as canon to ben shapiro lore


[27-Oct-19 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/df7448bdd4b740fdb178bace9204f872

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[27-Oct-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-emissions-california/u-s-court-rejects-challenge-to-epa-review-of-obama-vehicle-rules-idUSKBN1X422H

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A federal appeals court on Friday rejected a challenge by California and 16 othe...
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[27-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I saw Joker.


[27-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might just be the best new movie I've seen in 10 years.


[27-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hit the nail on the head, with a bullet.


[27-Oct-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really need to see that movie


[27-Oct-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's...it's a movie that makes you feel that the killing of Batman's parents was justified.


[27-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, *normally*, that's among the events in comic book character bakkstories that is always morally abhorrent, is always the worst thing, is the prototypical example of bad.


[27-Oct-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joker isn't a normal movie.


[27-Oct-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's "We live in a society 🤡" turned into a movie.

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[27-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of like a Tarantino movie in how it's done.


[27-Oct-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine Django Unchained, but less intense, more serious, there's no mentor, all the comedy's dark, and the slaveowners are Batman's parents.


[27-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DC lore is so confusing


[27-Oct-19 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One moment Batman's parent's are well meaning philanthropists with hearts of gold gunned down at random, the next they're plutocrats with shady government and criminal dealings that deserved to get got by a hired hitman


[27-Oct-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well sometimes the angle is Bruce is rich so he's a great guy, other times not so much


[27-Oct-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It keeps changing.


[27-Oct-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it varies from writer to writer


[27-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The implication of this movie is that Bruce may be a great guy, but only **because his parents died**.


[27-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if this movies Thomas raised Bruce, Bruce would be a terrible person.


[27-Oct-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in different continuity, bruce died and his father became batman with a blood lust who runs shady casinos, while his mother broke and became the joker


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the universe of flashpoint is a fun series


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, it's the best Joker yet as far as a serious take.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/26/politics/john-kelly-trump-yes-man/index.html>


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
oh my god


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very stable genius.


[27-Oct-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with very good words, he knows the best words. Everyone else doesn;t know good words, but he knows the best words


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
YUGE words even!


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the important thing is the movie didn't really put in anything that would serious contradict a BRUCE THE RICH SAVIOR OF tHE WORLD take unless they went into lots of detail


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it left room to be able to mesh with such movies so that you can hav an actually complex dynamic of who's "right"


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very much the implication is that the Joker's approach is entirely wrong, but society isn't right.


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
that sounds like something I'd applaud


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the original joker trailer is painful to watch, which made me want to see the movie more


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual movie is painful to watch.


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a very good way.


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame movies are fucking 27 euros here


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a point in the movie where it's just a minute of the guy's naked bakk


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I think they had him fast for certain scenes


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont live near a theater, so i;m going to have to wait for home media


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can see he's just skin and bones


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he's not in the best shape


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so like, it visually disturbs


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus you can tell at times when it's all about to go very very wrong.


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there's a lot of secondhand embarrassment involved


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not Spike singing Crystal Anthem level, but it's *close*, *on purpose*


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point is to make you feel empathy with the Joker.


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone treats him like shit and to a large extent they hav good reason to.


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that makes it feel all the worse.


[27-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there is a very, very politically interesting moment, tho it's major spoilers.


[27-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
`Centrists will always give a chance to or validate the views of the right but never the left`


[27-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
'we need the change, just maybe not all of it and not for the reasons the left claim'.


[27-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a position I... would ascribe to, if I believed anything significant could be changed at all.


[27-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's called the fish hook theory


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
basically, conservatives want things to stay the same (it's the literal definition of "conserve")


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
centrists want to maintain the status quo


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the views of the left are primarily intended to benefit people, albeit without as much regard for benefitting the nation over others.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
so they align a lot


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The views of the right are primarily intended to first choose who benefits, and then benefit them at all costs.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
views of the left are intended to bring change.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
for the sake of change.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
except when it's not


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which can not only hurt others in the world, but the very nation itself overall.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it all changes and it's gonna be great


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
we'll kill the rich, divide among the poor, it's gonna be great.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
that's typical left.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
sorry not sorry.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that by favoring the right, you hurt the nation, due to all the positive sum games involved.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
on a more serious note though. I'll give an example.


[27-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
100 companies cause 71% of the global carbon emissions


[27-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rarely are things given an equal shake, and decided rationally.


[27-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you *do* decide rationally, giving every idea a chance, you get pidgeon-holed to the left.


[27-Oct-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is people who stay in the center, tend to favor the right.


[27-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of the right's general strategy


[27-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
considering left is 'this is a great idea, which will almost inevitably fail, and this is why'.


[27-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
push everyone away from the middle so the left seems crazier.


[27-Oct-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
but this wasn't an example.


[27-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
trans crowd. The actual legitimate mental condition of 'being born in the wrong body' is vanishingly rare. What isn't rare is people unsatisfied with their lot in life, traditional gender roles, all that lovely jazz, and one of the ways to deal with it, and then _force_ the world to accept your choice, is claim gender disphoria, cut off your balls and scream really really loud at anyone who might take issue with that. It also happens to be in vogue this season. A great talking point.

I understand them. I really do. They want a change, they want it _now_, and changing yourself is much easier than changing the society. Do I agree with the method chosen? No, at least I'd never do it, suggest anyone do it or encourage them. You do you, the outcome's on you, at best I'll help with damage control. The practical results I've seen from the people I second-hand met are... disappointing. Would I support a legislation aimed at them specifically? Depends on legislation and it's benefits for everyone else. And so on.


[27-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
THIS is how I view centrist position, on this specific question.


[27-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's my hot take


[27-Oct-19 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
this is your view of the centrist position?


[27-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
people don't want to cut off their balls because of leftist encouragement


[27-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want to cut off their balls because society is sexist as fukk and a lot of people don't actually accept the premise of equal treatment and not massively prejudging people.


[27-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The court system systematically givs women lighter sentences than men for the same crimes *with the same circumstances*


[27-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should fix that instead of just pretending everything's cool if we randomly giv women a leg up and harass anyone who disagrees etc.


[27-Oct-19 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
now that's a real hot take


[27-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
correct.


[27-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I absolutely 100% certain support that Nebbie.


[27-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
and, yes, I never said it was leftist encouragement.


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a practical protest against current way of things (so against right, I suppose)


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is, a lot of the time when I try to explain to people that things aren't equal, they just say "but we got a blakk president" and "the wealth gap isn't real, so there's no problem"


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent I disagree with your characterization of "centrist" but mostly because it's not clear what we refer to by a "centrist"


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are incorrect generalizations with a bit of strawmanning.


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
is it someone who is in strong favor of compromise, or someone who takes extremist positions from liberals _and_ conservatives?


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, I find most people don't want to accept the premise that society is inequal in opportunity.


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
SJUWs want to say that society is inequal in outcome, and all we need to do is tilt the scales to women at random


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alt righters want to say that that's wrong, so we shouldn't do anything about outcome, and anything on opportunity is by extension a fool's errand.


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't realize providing legal protections for transgenders to be treated as if they were any other person was considered a bad thing


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
equality shouldn't have an asterisk next to it


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not the argument @Crow


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And mainstream conservatives think that letting someone cut their balls off is the end of the damn world, that it endangers society.


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it fukking doesn't.


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no reason to get all worked about someone cutting their balls off.


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let people do what they fukking want and treat them like people.


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the incredible skew on divorce and child custody judgements


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
well, I've never heard any other law being argued for in regards to transgenders


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
what other laws are there?


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Denying people the opportunity to serve their country because they chopped their balls off a year ago is retarded.


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it's Opponent's representation of a "centrist" position


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
not what they actually believe


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's what your 'centrism' wants.


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wants to say, whoa this idea is weird, so we should shit on it


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the while it's distracting from the real core problem.

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[27-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we would just stop being so shitty to people about what they are and what they want, maybe we wouldn't end up in these petty fights over people chopping their balls off and what we should do about it.

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[27-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
I'm having trouble visualizing how exactly it represents a centrist position, I've never heard of "not helping, not hurting" being a problem with centrism


[27-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, you shouldn't *need* to agree with someone else's choices.


[27-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The **very idea that someone else's choices if they don't mesh up with your culture are to be invalidated** is shitty.


[27-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone else's choices should only matter if they hurt others.


[27-Oct-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
while less often the target of abuse, men are held to far stricter social standards than women are


[27-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
the problem with centrism is that it advocates for compromises when compromise leads to an outcome that's still just as terrible, just on a smaller scale


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
woman wears a suit and tie? good for her
man wears a skirt and makeup? fucking kill him


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
like the compromise between slavery vs no slavery


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Do I agree with the method chosen? No, at least I'd never do it, suggest anyone do it or encourage them. You do you, the outcome's on you, at best I'll help with damage control.'


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can't accept this.


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
or the compromise between worker's rights and no worker's rights


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you agree with is irrelevant.


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you'd personally do is irrelevant.


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the way you structure this


[27-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho it at first appears you're taking a step bakk


[27-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it implies that you strongly disagree, that therefore it shouldn't be done, and that you'll be absent when they get shat on, except to calm people down a little.


[27-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone's rights being violated is time to get out the fukking guns and lawyers.


[27-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not time to "do damage control".


[27-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
*That* is the problem with centrism.


[27-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It mistakenly takes the position that neutrality requires not caring, even as basic rights are stepped all over.


[27-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, the position of the left is more equal rights, and the position of the right is less equal rights.


[27-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
These things, to use a bit of a pun, aren't morally *equal*.


[27-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
See also: The Golden Mean Fallacy


[27-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wherein you take the endpoints, and rather than figuring out which is right on or between them, you just say right down the middle.


[27-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
("yadda yadda kill half the jews")


[27-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] actually that's what I believe too, with a bit of amendment of 'while I don't agree, something HAS to be done soooo might as well support those that try.'


[27-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, to use a really less charged particular


[27-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
a common argument in the US is about school selection


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because remember, schools are funded locally by property taxes


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich area = rich schools


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich schools with rich students = successful students


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich areas are white


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can choose to send your kid further away for school, de facto segregation's effects are diminished


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
social mobility is increased.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The wealth is naturally more spread.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
which has a feedback loop of 'judging a book by it's cover'. You come from a good school, you must be good until proven otherwise


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed, that one's way too common to see from judges.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so in the US


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
normally you get assigned a school


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
just one


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
there can be 3 schools the same distance away


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but your address is assigned only one of them.


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If however people could choose from schools within a distance range, then that'd probably be way superior...


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of the time when this gets proposed, it gets immediately shot down.


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because politicians say it's "untested"


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so aren't willing to test it.


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the problem?


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is how it often goes with US "centrism".


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"That idea's unproven, so we won't try".


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is that change is almost always rejected.


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOWEVER things change if money gets behind a change


[27-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but money almost always only wants conservative goals


[27-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you end up with changes, reforms, even...only for conservative goals.


[27-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
so if left is a _push_ for change, right is a _resistance_ for change, then centrism is _reluctance_ more than anything


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reforms done by conservatives tend to be bureaucracy, like the OMB, or extra exceptions, like tax loopholes


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's... I keep finding out that names people call things in US mean something different there than usual :D


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
time and again


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
or more tariffs to "protect" an industry, like with steel (which in fact last time Bush did it, nearly collapsed the steel industry in the US)


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
By pushing against the changes in society with counter legal changes, they end up causing problems


[27-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
say, did I tell you about the steel industry thing before? It's a real fun example of just how stupid some conservative thinking is economically.


[27-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
don't think so, no.


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the idea with protectionism is that product A is made cheaper overseas


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I've always wondered about US production, actually.


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
given that most of the world is living off China's goods.


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so businesses here will prefer the overseas version


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Protectionism says, tariff it from overseas to negate that advantage


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
even reverse it so businesses purchase it from here


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and over time, businesses selling it thrive and the price lowers


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the tariffs go down


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone benefits...


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
EXCEPT


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really not how it works in practice a lot of the time.


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the big question to consider is


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
if steel is cheaper from overseas...why is the US making it *without* tariffs?


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Logically nobody would buy the more expensive version of the exact same product


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there is a reason for it


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
US steel is faster to acquire


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and overseas stuff has a limit on supply, it's not infinite


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that if you need a LOT of steel RIGHT NOW


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to buy some of it locally


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you might buy 80% chinese steel, but 20% US steel


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and use the US steel in the first production batch


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, consider what happens when you tariff that chinese steel


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
the argument I heard was, a) time b) self-sufficiency. Same reason people subsidise almost invariably un-profitable food production. You cannot afford that to fail, so it's worth the spending.


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the company may simply not be able to afford all the steel they want


[27-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if steel is irreplacible, then they may begrudgingly buy 40% US steel, and 40% Chinese steel, with a missing 20%


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but steel is often not irreplacible.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead they buy 0% steel.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No US, no Chinese.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They buy a different resource that serves a similar purpose, albeit not as ideally.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now the US steel industry has no business anymore.


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places overseas will just buy steel in their countries


[27-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
places in the US won't use steel whenever possible.


[27-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
WOOPS


[27-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda convoluted, not gonna lie.


[27-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, on food production


[27-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US massively overproduces corn


[27-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's destroying the environment


[27-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, it is convoluted, but that's how the US steel industry works


[27-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Opponent#3498
corn tends to do that, yeah. USSR had a close brush with ecologic disaster when it tried to mass-produce it.


[27-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US steel industry is propped up by the cheapness of overseas steel allowing there to be excess money in company's budgets to afford US steel as a patching option over their main steel supply.


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If overseas steel stops being cheap, then steel just plain becomes unaffordable for many products that use it.


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which collapses the industry.


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the US produces so much corn that the government pays farmers to not market the corn


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a bit fucked


[27-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, so what's the solution for the steel situation then?


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The solution is to invest in cheaper ways to create steel at home


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
subsidies


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
let's pretend I understood even though I would need to research the details a bit more on this.


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
not tariffs


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, if you pump money into the steel industry, even if you don't create a breakthru in the ability to produce it and thus need to KEEP pumping money, then that bolsters it to competitiveness


[27-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
which avoids the unaffordability problem of tariffs


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The downside is that subsidies cost the gov't money, while tariffs giv the gov't money.


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
so the problem isn't tariffs, the problem is it stops there. The money don't go back into industry.


[27-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, if you tariffed Chinese steel to subsidize US steel, it might not work


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
because by buying US steel, a company undercuts the tariff collection


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
might not be enough, probably.


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's self-defeating.


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately you just need to eat the cost of the subsidy, and source income elsewhere.


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's self-defeating but then isn't that the point? To maintain a cheap-ish local solution.


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[27-Oct-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't for it to defeat itself


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is for it to keep going forever


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
to maintain that cheap local solution


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
By defeating itself, it can't keep going forever.


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
no, not 'defeat itself', but to find an equllibrium where tariffs would sustain an acceptable part of subsidies.


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every time it "works" by subsidiezing US steel to be cheaper than Chinese steel, it results in harming its own income generation


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it's a very poor solution that would be usually unstable.


[27-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's better to not tariff to begin with


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
unstable, perhaps.


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
tariffs create uncertainty


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
but then you need to get the money from _somewhere_


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
*cough* the rich


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well.


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
that aint gonna fly.


[27-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the US switched over from tariff collection to income tax collection as the primary income source, it was a massive improvement


[27-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it makes trade easier which results in much better economics


[27-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it also leads to higher revenue


[27-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
"ain't gonna fly" is a problematic argument, it's the very argument I've been arguing against.


[27-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
by distributing the pressure, instead of focusing it on specific industries and/or productions?


[27-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dismissing leftist ideas out of hand because conservatives don't want them is exactly the fishhook theory problem.


[27-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes


[27-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
by distributing the pressure, and making it so people hav to spend their wealth


[27-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
you encourage free flow of goods and services


[27-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
and spending in general


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is best to light a fire under Scrooge McDuck that lets you collect his melting gold as he rushes to invest it in businesses and buy products for himself


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. lighting a fire under an essential business that provides housing, while Scrooge sits on his moneypile.


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't consider taxation a way of spending, maybe reducing incomes.


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is you tax unspent income


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you tax investments a bit less than income sitting there


[27-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it thus becomes preferable for rich people to spend their income


[27-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spending drives the economy.


[27-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And gov't spending doubly so.


[27-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
if it's done right, yeah, I can see this being a thing. Trick is to make it attractive.


[27-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't with more money to spend, while encouraging people to spend their money lest the gov't spend it, results in a great economy.


[27-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
by 'aint gonna fly' I meant this idea is inattractive. At least if you go by the stereotypical 'rich white man' image.


[27-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
so, okay. This is a good practical solution. It works for the country. Now someone needs to convince _them_.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, you will only initially convince people who are paid to reason, and not to worry about their own finances.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus, economists. Academics.


[27-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you then put people in gov't agencies, in charge of things, they can start to influence and shift things.


[27-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
From there, you can slowly paint the rich people opposing it as being selfish, as they are, and erode their support so that they are forced to accept the change out of their own selfish interests.


[27-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
stereotypically people don't care about optics.


[27-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
you need to convince them it benefits them in some way.


[27-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
'erode their support'... Do you truly believe it is possible?


[27-Oct-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
I do not.


[27-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467607-sondland-told-house-there-was-a-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-report

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WSJ: Sondland told the House that Trump's Ukraine pressure was a q...
A lawyer for the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_101019getty.jpg


[27-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
in fact, I came up with another rather broad definition of how I see centrists.


[27-Oct-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
left wants to change the system. Right want to oppose the change. Centrists want changes _within_ the system. Work with what you got, not dream big, fly high and crash hard.


[27-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Opponent#3498
to solve a problem: stimulate the economy, you want to change the _society_ first. Change it hard, shift it away from the cult of greed that's been perpetuated for centuries.


[27-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
not to mention, scientific publications on sensitive topics more often than not are payed to perpetual certain ideas.


[27-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
not all of them, but enough, so even step 1 will be a test by itself.


[27-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the core problem of far left. YES, the ideas might be solid.


[27-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
how the fuck is it ever possible to achive something like this?


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
the left wants to change the system, doesn't matter whether it's internally or externally


[27-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally reformist vs revolutionary


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well then, what I see called centrist in our own local parlance is, pretty much reformist left.


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
for US it's probably, yeah, 'I don't care, leave me out of it'


[27-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
(or rather, 'I don't care, don't _make_ me care')


[27-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
(ironically, agitating for change vs someine with a position like that would inevitably lead to the support for the opposite side)


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
centrists want to limit the amount of change that happens in order to try and compromise between the left and right, but the right will be mad no matter how much or little change there is


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
so centrism is a broad simplification too :3


[27-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and there's not just shades but various different things lumped together.


[27-Oct-19 02:43 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, wonderful.


[27-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
... I don't get it, do you have a point?


[27-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be better if you could logically prove otherwise


[27-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
instead of playing the arrogant superiority card


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, I just find it funny.


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
people and their labels. Created to manage and control.


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't invalidate them


[27-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
there is no point, as what you call yourself is immaterial.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
pick whatever, it only makes sense in the context it's used in.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
saying "haha that exists, so funny" doesn't invalidate the point


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
never said it did.


[27-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
then why bring it up?


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
why not? Am I not allowed to comment on it?


[27-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
no, I'm asking you to specify why it matters, this isn't really a channel for trolling or smug superiority


[27-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
'smug superiority', there's this line again.


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
why does it matter? Someone said a bit earlier before, 'right are defined by hatred of others', 'there are many of LGBT crowd that only care about their specific letter, and specificly abhorr bi'. And so on, so forth.


[27-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems to me right now that people invented the broad generalisation of 'centrists' to have a label for someone to hate, that is not explicitly their political opponent.


[27-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not 'right' who are defined by hatred of 'others'.


[27-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems the entirety of US is willing to label themselves as anything so long as they belong and have someone to blame.


[27-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
except maybe those blasted centrists...


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
for some reason I think nobody's too proud of having to call themselves that.


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Optics do matter in a Democracy.


[27-Oct-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not in a Dictatorship


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is why Democracy is important.


[27-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It provides an incentive for the rich and powerful to giv resources to the less so because their power derives from them.


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The less people are able to punish self-serving behavior by the rich and powerful in governance, the less good reform will happen, and the more democracy will be eroded in order to prevent people eventually being able to punish as things get worse.


[27-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people must strike early, strike hard, and strike often to keep things democratic.


[27-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well. I just wish there existed a place that would function like this, with any sort of scale or relevance.


[27-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
norway


[27-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
...point. Don't know much about them, but do know they function well and with little drama.


[27-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
they have a social democratic system, they elected some center-left liberals, they started running the social democratic system into the ground, so now they're voting back in social democrats


[27-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
relatively little drama.


[27-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
norway's the happiest country in the world because of the ease with which they can participate in politics


[27-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
high voter turnout, high participation, etc


[27-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
and it all falls back to the fact that they're economically stable, no threat of starvation or homelessness hanging over a third of the population


[27-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
unlike in the US, where 1/3rd of citizens are a single missed paycheck away from homelessness


[27-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the populace is well-educated, cared for, they are more likely to think politically and actually engage in politics.


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more time people spend worrying about basic needs, the less time they spend wanting to fix society.


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, very broken societies are corrupt and nearly impossible to fix.


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
and the more extreme they get about needing changes _now_


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
(because they do genuinly need them now)


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fear makes people turn conservative


[27-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
not liberal.


[27-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The changes they end up advocating more end up being focused on selfishness against outgroups


[27-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
minorities are a common scapegoat for such


[27-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that "they took our jobs" etc.


[27-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
People tend to be liberal when they are more well-read and not hugely afraid.


[27-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they've got out of college and their biggest worry is student debt


[27-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a big worry, but more abstract, it doesn't provoke fear in the same way as seeing stuff blow up near you etc.


[27-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracies tend to lead to less warfare internally and with each other


[27-Oct-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
this increased stability leads to less fear and as a result more liberal thinking


[27-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is in a very odd spot right now because many are homeless or one missed paychekk away from it, but a HUGE amount of people are making it thru college, saddled with debt.


[27-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a breeding ground for liberal thought that seeks extreme changes.


[27-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Wall Street has played itself in the long term.


[27-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now they're enjoying Trump from fear of immigrants, but that's very shortlived.


[27-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
when everyone has debt, no one wins


[27-Oct-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c

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Serbacus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c
Congratulations, you played yourself.
reading this description wasn't very smart you aint that loyal
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Zd9muK2M36c/hqdefault.jpg


[27-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
the only logical option will be to eventually forgive the debt


[27-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
which in an ironic twist of fate would turn that into government-funded education.


[27-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
this is actually related to another thing that I wondered about in US (although Old West in general).


[27-Oct-19 03:24 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1188276472680779776

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https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1188276472680779776
BREAKING: The United States has captured Al-Baghdadi,

The head of ISIS.

This is a huge defeat for ISIS!

Thank you, President @realDonaldTrump!
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[27-Oct-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
cash isn't really a mainstream thing (it is but it isn't). Living in permanent debt for everything is. And that's apparently fine, because in the end there's various ways to get rid of it partially or completely.


[27-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's a capitalist society where everything has a price and nothing is free, yet in the end the price is delayed, distributed, shifted to somewhere else inconsistently sometimes because otherwise everything would grind to a halt.


[27-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
if people wanted proof that capitalism doesn't work, well, look no further.


[27-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, that got deleted fast holy shit


[27-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1188276472680779776


[27-Oct-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!


[27-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Opponent#3498
missing characters again maybe. It still parces in Discord.


[27-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1188279975092375552

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Ryan Fournier (@RyanAFournier)
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1188279975092375552
Edit: These are still unconfirmed at the moment, but this is what sources are telling me. Apologies for not adding that in initially. Got excited.
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[27-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
nope


[27-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Okay then.


[27-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
I think the API hasn't caught up that the post was deleted yet, so it's still sending out the preview


[27-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much of society being in debt isn't necessarily a capitalist thing


[27-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
most likely.


[27-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it happened a lot in ancient Rome


[27-Oct-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it tends to coincide with wealthy people hoarding resources


[27-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they often dealt with it via blanket debt forgiveness, as once everyone was in debt, they'd only go deeper into debt and society would break down if it weren't forgotten.


[27-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
wealthy people hoarded resources forever. This situation is more rare I'd imagine.


[27-Oct-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, making people be in debt is the ultimate way to vampirically feed off the poor as the rich.


[27-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
When someone's in debt, they can be forced to pay you, in amounts that greatly exceed the original debt.


[27-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can prevent their payment from being sufficient to lower the debt over time, then you get payment indefinitely.


[27-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it can be passed on to their children, even, when they die.


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
theoretically, anyway.


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Little else compares to being able to sukk every penny out of someone's income their entire life


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially once you scale it up to most of the populace.


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The productivity of workers effectively becomes sapped away from them.


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, we're back on topic of motivation with this.


[27-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad for society in the long run, but very good for the wealthy in the short run.


[27-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no reason to earn money if it gonna go down the drain anyway.


[27-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, you must put the rich to the fire


[27-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and let them either giv up some of their wealth, or be burned.


[27-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
no, you're back to propaganda with this. Missing the point here.


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
why would people just stop wanting to make money because they have to give up bits of it to make sure that society literally doesn't collapse?


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
that logic doesn't follow


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
people _tried_ doing that. Remember SU? That's precisely what they did.


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
in several waves, in fact.


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
when society is falling apart


[27-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
the rich aren't automatically incentivized to giv up their wealth


[27-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are actually incentivized to hoard more in the hopes they survive the fire.


[27-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which worsens the collapse.


[27-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
the soviet union collapsed mainly because they were moving away from socialism to a more free market system


[27-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't do the state capitalist cheat that china did


[27-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
China didn't do 'kill the rich' either


[27-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
China didn't undergo a recent collapse.


[27-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1990-12-02-1990336114-story.html

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Soviet food shortage not for lack of output Distribution, waste bl...
MOSCOW -- And now for the good news about Soviet agriculture:
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[27-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
it had a full century's worth of collapse before reforming.


[27-Oct-19 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
just pure mess forever.


[27-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
an article from 1990, from a US newspaper


[27-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
> The truth behind the statistics, Soviet economists and foreign diplomats say, is that there's enough food grown in the Soviet Union to keep the population nourished, but the system of transport, storage and distribution has virtually disintegrated, and panic buying prevents the restoration of any balance to the market.


[27-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
and for SU, Tzarist Russia's collapse was brought on, in huge part, by communist party. It was poorly managed, and I'm not sure it wouldn't happen eventually anyway, but it was engineered, not natural.


[27-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
in the 1990? I believe that.


[27-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
it really just comes back to stalinism, stalinism poisoned the long-term viability of the soviet union


[27-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it was probably much worse than this, too.


[27-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
apparently lenin was planning a china-like shift in the market because the soviet union "couldn't handle any more communism at that point in time"


[27-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
but then he died, stalin took over and started killing everyone who didn't agree


[27-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
he wanted isolationism


[27-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
the ant farm idea, while sounding nice, is pure fantasy. He was smart enough to understand that at least when the results came in.


[27-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
basically, if lenin had lived 10 years longer, the soviet union would likely still be a global superpower


[27-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
while it wouldn't have been a pinnacle of freedom of expression, it wouldn't have been the totalitarian nightmare that stalin turned it into


[27-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, suppression of the masses was never the point onto itself. The point was economical idea and how to bring it to life


[27-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
the original point anyway.


[27-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea in principle is that debt allows people/companies to buy things they need to become productive _now_ with the intent of paying it off later


[27-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
in practice, things are so expensive, wages are so low, and interest rates are so high that repayment never becomes a reality for a lot of people


[27-Oct-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/zgYqLbW.jpg

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[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
huh, I thought that image was pinned


[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
guess not


[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it's a given in this society


[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
gamers rise up


[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whenever someone mentions Boomers


[27-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/xc4EFXQ7d_M

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Grimy Ghost!
https://youtu.be/xc4EFXQ7d_M
BOOMER HUMOR
You too can enjoy the greatest baby boomer Vegas entertainment around! Grab your grandparents today to appreciate this high art on the strip!
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[27-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Comedian is Danny Gans, died 2009)


[27-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a supercut of all of his worst bits


[27-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't sound all the cringy compared to ours.


[27-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess I'm missing the point again.


[27-Oct-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
you're probably much older than most of us


[27-Oct-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a generational thing


[27-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I liked the Elvis bit


[27-Oct-19 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm really not that ancient, despite feeling consistent defeated. Pushing 30? But I am likely de-sensitised to idiots on stage.


[27-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
trust me when I say, if this is his _worst_, we have so, so much worse than him.


[27-Oct-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elvis bit was good, but the impressions are mostly awful


[27-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump Hotel in Vegas is in the top ten reviewed only because of his obsessive followers


[27-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a resort there with no casino, which usually are super niche and prior to his presidency was ignored


[27-Oct-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is a K-pop star in US politician form


[27-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
P much


[27-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As a person interested in presidential history, Trump is the first completely alcohol abstinent president since Hayes


[27-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whose wife infamously was called "Lemonade Lucy" and refused to serve alcohol at the White House


[27-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again they also didn't like touching the newly installed light switches either


[27-Oct-19 04:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Presidents should not be drunk on the job.


[27-Oct-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, but it was a source of pride to say, brew beer at the White House


[27-Oct-19 04:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982

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Trump approves Special Ops raid targeting ISIS leader Baghdadi and...
"Something very big has just happened," tweeted Trump. The Defense Department reported "high confidence" that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was dead.
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[27-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
well, this finally happened. 'High confidence' isn't ideal, but still.


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>bring our troops home!


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>execute extrajudicial foreigners on foreign soil


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HRMMMMM


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude Trump pretty much said, let's pull out troops to not protect our allies


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and only protect oil wells


[27-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The memes aren't even parodies anymore.


[27-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Emperor isn't pretending to wear clothes.


[27-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
breaking international law is fine when you also get to define and enforce it


[27-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
in general, international law seems such a joke


[27-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US has a law that says if the Hague ever took in one of its citizens without approval, war would be automatically declared.


[27-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
you can do business no matter who you are. The only thing that changes is the prices you're offered.


[27-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC it was something Republicans wanted as a "compromise" in some bill during the Clinton administration.


[27-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to how the US got a ban on anti-sat weapons in exchange for continuing to make chemical weapons that are against the Geneva conventions to use.


[27-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some pretty crazy lobbyist exchanges in congress.


[27-Oct-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-bodies-journey/from-bubble-tea-to-disaster-how-one-vietnamese-dreamer-apparently-met-her-fate-idUSKBN1X50J9

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From bubble tea to disaster: How one Vietnamese dreamer apparently...
In Berlin she posed outside a beer garden, a beaming smile upon her face. In Bru...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191026&t=2&i=1445298880&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9P0NL


[27-Oct-19 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I can think of better ways to go than this. A messy situation.


[27-Oct-19 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/south-dakota-governor-caves-on-attempted-efforts-to-silence-pipeline-protesters/

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South Dakota Governor Caves on Attempted Efforts to Silence Pipeli...
The state's quick retreat should serve as a lesson for other legislatures: if you criminalize protest, we will sue.
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[27-Oct-19 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/26/773761689/u-s-diplomat-state-department-nixed-plan-to-support-former-ukrainian-ambassador

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U.S. Diplomat: State Department Nixed Plan To Support Former Ukrai...
Philip Reeker, a U.S. diplomat overseeing European affairs, testified he had plans to defend former Ukrainian Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, but Reeker was overruled by top State Department officials.
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[27-Oct-19 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
> In a rare Saturday hearing, Reeker sat for more than eight hours of questions from lawmakers running the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. Reeker appeared under a subpoena issued by House lawmakers, despite being ordered not to cooperate by Trump.


[27-Oct-19 10:46 AM] Patachu#0542

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[27-Oct-19 10:47 AM] Patachu#0542
the modern «man» in his consumerist utopia.


[27-Oct-19 12:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/american-worker-less-vacation-medieval-peasant-2016-11

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The average American worker takes less vacation time than a mediev...
Medieval peasants lived grueling, terrible lives. But their vacation days beat out the policies now common even in progressive societies.
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[27-Oct-19 01:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They had vacations back then!?


[27-Oct-19 02:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
They had a more natural work cycle than the industrial worker who had to fight again for a reasonable work hour. Then the old hours got foisted on the third world.


[27-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The new system always likes to smear the old


[27-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus, there's a lot that's not well known or understood about how people lived before the 17th century simply because people that could write didn't write about poor people


[27-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of how to boss them around best


[27-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Was the work seasonal back then?


[27-Oct-19 02:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Back in the back then you went to sleep when it was dark, ate when you got hungry, took a nap, and had bread and circus affairs every other week for Saints Days. But you worked mostly your leige-lords land and did sustenance agriculture for yourself and neighbors for three days of the week which weren't devoted to work for the lord


[27-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on the crops


[27-Oct-19 02:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's some areas that have three growing seasons.


[27-Oct-19 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise in Northern Europe you were huddled in your house with your one or two sets of clothes around a fire, waiting


[27-Oct-19 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or if you were Swiss plotting against the HRE and establishing a peasant Republic of sorts.


[27-Oct-19 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Waiting for longships to arrive


[27-Oct-19 03:00 PM] Patachu#0542
definitively, peasants and thus the villages used a more regular cycle, adapt to the weather, seasons, leave their crops the time to grow...


[27-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Patachu#0542
they certainly had a lot of other occupations. Was talking about ancient paintings from renaissance to industrial revolution, the time it took for a painter of this era, and even before, to make a complete work. They were doing this all day, no other distraction, they could focus 100% of their time on something. Same for builders, or steel workers. Even today people are rebuilding from scratch medieval villages to reverse-engineer how they worked.


[27-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Patachu#0542
Help I'm in an agreement with aaronMK


[27-Oct-19 03:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because you're generally in the right area, but like Proudhon miss the mark. God dammit, France. your politics are all feels.


[27-Oct-19 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Oct-19 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Oct-19 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Chilean energy


[27-Oct-19 03:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-protests-lithium-idUSKBN1X42B9?fbclid=IwAR1pvOM8BzRvJ_etYf-qT5OnhbRbZ8YaA2kQZO4HbfqbzA2M_9GwS_mXToM

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Chile protesters block access to lithium operations: local leader
Protesters from indigenous communities around Chile's Atacama salt flats, a...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191026&t=2&i=1445048081&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEF9O1OZ


[27-Oct-19 03:23 PM] Patachu#0542
it's not like we voted for... " that " ...


[27-Oct-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2c2c48e64f934d329c72a7af3dc284b1

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US official says IS leader believed dead in US raid in Syria
WASHINGTON (AP) — The shadowy leader of the Islamic State group who presided over its global jihad and became arguably the world's most wanted man, is dead after being targeted by a U.S. military...
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[27-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Patachu#0542
took a while but that's worth raising a glass to this!


[27-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ISIS leadership is under a revolving door policy


[27-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing will change other than Trump getting to boast about it like he himself crawled through the mud under enemy fire to choke the guy out


[27-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And conservatives lapping it up to distract from his dementia and corruption


[27-Oct-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give it 3 months and he'll be inviting the new isischeif to brunch at the white house for "peace talks"


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah they are still operating independently, some kind of organized militia. If there's no serious cooperation between the locals and others to remove it, it will only keep growing.  And in a few years another group will succeed. and so on.


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] byte[]#2610
No change


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Patachu#0542
How ca nwe fight an ideology like this.


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even if Bahgdadi's death is supposed to be "the end", Daesh has a half dozen autonomous sub-organizations scattered from North Africa to West Asia. If nothing happens to replace him and continue the game as before there's still a range of possible heirs in their collective provinces or even a whole new group. The underlying factors for terrorism are unchanged.


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] byte[]#2610
US continues to create radical Islamic terror


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, I mean


[27-Oct-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for starters, we need to stop abandoning our allies, that's part of what causes it


[27-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The slow way of actually giving a shit and investing big money in actual change


[27-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or the fast way of complete eradication and genocide


[27-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything in between is just faffing about


[27-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Patachu#0542
heh that's the goal, the war is never supposed to end since it maintains an international presence on the ground and these governments under control.


[27-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Patachu#0542
The big start of all of this was iraqui invasion in 2003. If there were still Saddam to rule these people with an iron fist, things would be different. But hey let's arm the rebels who are struggling for democracy!


[27-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[27-Oct-19 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
No, not even close


[27-Oct-19 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Islam has been radicalized in the Middle East dating back to the 80s


[27-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The start of this goes back way more than that


[27-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah true, but the acceleration of all of this really began with the gulf wars. otherwise it's true, with Iran and all that.


[27-Oct-19 03:50 PM] byte[]#2610
And _every single fucking time there was a flare-up_ it was the US's fucking fault


[27-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Israel's existence was "bad enough" to get the area riled up, the cold war proxy bullshit exacerbated everything


[27-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Patachu#0542
Back then, women were allowed to drive, go outside without a niqab ...


[27-Oct-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it spans back to atleast 1958


[27-Oct-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly even further back


[27-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Back before the US shot down civilian passenger planes


[27-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And hoped everyone would forget


[27-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While making a fuss of Russia doing the same


[27-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Patachu#0542
yeh well, I expected I'd get called a conspirationist/antisemite again mentioning Israel and their presence, backed up by the west.


[27-Oct-19 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/07/02/1958-when-america-first-went-to-war-in-the-middle-east/

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1958: When America first went to war in the Middle East
Sixty years ago this month, the United States first sent combat troops into the Middle East. The July 1958 Marine landing in Beirut, Lebanon thus began the era of America’s now seemingly endless wars in the region. The 1958 episode has lessons for today.
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[27-Oct-19 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Can't say I'm a fan of religious ethnostates no matter what they are


[27-Oct-19 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Israel does not deserve the support of the US, or any nation really, until they at the very least stop bombing and gassing Palestinians


[27-Oct-19 03:54 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah but they wanted to build a jewish state in the middle of this region based on " X belongs to our culture, Jerusalem is sacred city"  "no it's our land"


[27-Oct-19 03:54 PM] Patachu#0542
https://vimeo.com/199418954 mandatory


[27-Oct-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Secular nations should not carve out and prop up theocracies


[27-Oct-19 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
This should have been clearer at the time; I guess it wasn't


[27-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Patachu#0542
that's a thing too. When you have a nation, you have your borders, it's logical, but religion kind of opposes this. every cult aims to dominate ideologically. Christianism, Judaism through zionism and especially what we have, and of course Islam, which is always making a comeback.


[27-Oct-19 04:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, the idea that the US is a "Christian nation" is still terrifyingly popular (it's not) and we have one of the highest religiousity rates in "the west"


[27-Oct-19 04:02 PM] byte[]#2610
So I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that we do so much for foreign theocracies


[27-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Patachu#0542
>tfw everyone who denounces Israel's warcrimes here are being taxed of antisemitism, even today. Even jewish writers, denouncing zionism or humorists are now right wingers.


[27-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
nah it's clear, the US was conquerred mostly by protestants but not build itself on religion,it's not like faith was really omnipresent back in the time. The only religion there was survival.


[27-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
It's not like you have a church that's been here since 800 years in the middle of every village. That's a huge difference.


[27-Oct-19 04:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Our independence declaration and our constitution are secular documents


[27-Oct-19 04:04 PM] byte[]#2610
This is deliberate


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
It is enshrined in the law of the land that no establishment respecting a religion shall be made by the state


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
The founders were deists and atheists


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Patachu#0542
Yep, based on that, I agree, US has a vast majority of christians


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Patachu#0542
and even on that, Mexico is much more qualifiable to be christian than the US will ever be


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
The US is a secular nation and it has always been intended to be one


[27-Oct-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Suggesting it should be a theocracy is a total disgrace to the founding


[27-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah, that would not work like this, at all, and I wonder how. But on the possibilities of theocracies making a comeback, there are some people considering it.


[27-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Patachu#0542
And that's just insane.


[27-Oct-19 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
You might get a lot of shit from people if you suggest that Israel be held accountable for war crimes


[27-Oct-19 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
But you get way more shit if you even dare criticize Islam


[27-Oct-19 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Absurd


[27-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Patachu#0542
https://www.bfmtv.com/politique/europeennes-ces-quartiers-ou-la-liste-des-democrates-musulmans-rivalise-avec-les-partis-traditionnels-1702868.html Well, these guys are making the others go full " Deus Vult"  also, they literally preach to turn some districts into enforcing their own religious laws.

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Européennes: ces quartiers où la liste des démocrates musulmans...
La liste de l'UDMF a fait jeu égal avec certains partis traditionnels dans quelques villes de France, notamment dans les Yvelines.
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[27-Oct-19 04:10 PM] Patachu#0542
Yeah it's exactly this. And we see ... absurdities, even neo-nazis, so obsessed about jewish and zionism everywhere tend to guess what.  Djelabbah and Quran on a basement prayer.


[27-Oct-19 04:12 PM] Patachu#0542
Constitutions should defend us from the resurgence of obscurantism, that should grant us democracy and avoiud this kind of stuff but with that duality, that  progress of ideologies is the reason behind radicalism gaining terrain.


[27-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Patachu#0542
and nah, if only [people would separate the freedom to criticize a cult, and an ideology from racism, that would be, i think, a big step.


[27-Oct-19 04:15 PM] Patachu#0542
There are muslims, arabic people, especially gays and women who are already shouting out their opposition to all this in medias the best they can. There are people who are legal migrants, want to integrate, but they are thrown in in ghettos where thugs makes the law and the police avoid to get in. I'm especially thinking of them. Where a woman ho goes out gets insulted for not wearing a thing on her head, which is also her choice, there's a problem.


[27-Oct-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
god forbid the american president not be a fucking "christian"


[27-Oct-19 04:16 PM] Patachu#0542
Yeah well, I don't think Trump really is a devout christian, if he is, I'm applying to become a rabbi!


[27-Oct-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none of the "christian" presidents are really christian, atleast not now adays


[27-Oct-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they just make a bunch of religious promises to garner favor and throw themselves tot he church when it makes them look good


[27-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Patachu#0542
ah that's just advertising, you want to please to your supporters also.


[27-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Patachu#0542
whatever works!


[27-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i doubt any of them have actually read a bible, at least past select passages from the old testament


[27-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Patachu#0542
myeah well, never read any of those. the idea of a guy receiving commandments from a sky magician to begin with. All organized religion is like a block of cement on spirituality.


[27-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Patachu#0542
And if people understood Jesus's philosophy, thinking critically " what would jesus do"  instead of building their life opinions on a book, and book rev.2 rev 2.4 2.7, etc.


[27-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Patachu#0542
maybe that would be different.


[27-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Opponent#3498
religions have hijacked faith for population control since forever, so...


[27-Oct-19 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
That's the point of religion


[27-Oct-19 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Without control it's just spirituality


[27-Oct-19 04:24 PM] Patachu#0542
yep, even through science-sim, when you see people who believe in extraterrestrials, " i wanna believe, they are watching us; they will save us, we have proofs" it's just how a religion is started.


[27-Oct-19 04:24 PM] Patachu#0542
exactly, people should be free to discover god by themselves. IDK, go outside, spend some time outdoors looking at the stars,


[27-Oct-19 04:25 PM] Mikey#7286
Extraterrestrials more than likely do exist but worshipping them like a god is just


[27-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Patachu#0542
learn from the real world... admire a sunset on the beach.. i don't think there's a lot of religions based on that.


[27-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Patachu#0542
certainly, but the irony is, they might also think the same of us. "I want to believe"


[27-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
@Mikey I've read a fun line about people tending to either destroy things they don't understand, or worship them. You can't destroy what you can't touch, so might as well  :P


[27-Oct-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we must launch the god destroyer satelite!


[27-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Patachu#0542
" you think that pale blue dot around that star could have life on it? .... nah, it's only oxygen and nitrogen, and dihydrogen monoxide, a liquid planet cannot harbor life as we know it. "


[27-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[27-Oct-19 04:29 PM] Patachu#0542
in a sense, with acquiring technology and science, men kind of raised to become their own god. With the potential to override nature outrageously, sometimes for good or bad, and potential of annihilating it at its will. Forcibly people want to believe in something else.


[27-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Patachu#0542
just the fact of understanding our place in the universe, having a comprehension even imperfect of its begining and its fate is huge enough.


[27-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Patachu#0542
Haha ❤

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[27-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Patachu#0542
( in Zurich )


[27-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
with real... what now?


[27-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
hummus


[27-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
a chickpea-based spread


[27-Oct-19 04:34 PM] Patachu#0542
Lebanese protesting their government, a bunch of corrupt asshats just like everywhere


[27-Oct-19 04:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, hummus has been commercialized and watered down to shit look-alike?


[27-Oct-19 04:35 PM] Patachu#0542
yep it's a bit like guacamole  in texture, but the ingredients... I never really knew. it's not bad.


[27-Oct-19 04:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It's great, but not sure about recipe now.


[27-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://ambris.tumblr.com/post/188567008142/gahdamnpunk-the-kids-are-alright

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[27-Oct-19 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
thx tumblr embed, kys


[27-Oct-19 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[27-Oct-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
oppa hong kong style


[27-Oct-19 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/drjaneruby/status/1188451861432623104?s=21

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When President Trump says that Al Baghdadi died “like a dog” he’s signaling that he understands it’s  the greatest insult you can impose on a radical muslim terrorist who has killed many Americans. 

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[27-Oct-19 05:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1188491847271931911?s=21 nice kid, dickhead

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[27-Oct-19 07:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QaUzWFKc30

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Donald Trump FULL announcement ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ki...
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[27-Oct-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But I thought Trump completely eradicated ISIS two weeks ago already


[27-Oct-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So what the fuck was this guy the leader of


[27-Oct-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isis 2: electric fuckaloo


[27-Oct-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently isis works like a hive mind now, where if you kill one leader the whole thing starts a power drain into darkness


[27-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[27-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In the EU that company would be in deep shit


[27-Oct-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like andy wanted to fire that guy for awhile and needed an excuse


[27-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In the US, that discarded meatbag will be looking for a bridge to live under


[27-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to know the company


[27-Oct-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/10/bernie-wants-you-to-own-more-of-the-means-of-production

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Bernie Wants You to Own More of the Means of Production
Bernie Sanders just released a landmark plan to shift ownership and control of the US economy away from the very affluent and towards workers and the public.
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[27-Oct-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rnie Sanders released a proposal today that would gradually shift 20 percent of corporate equity into funds owned and controlled by the workers in each company. The plan, which would apply to all publicly-traded companies and large closely-held companies, would move 2 percent of corporate stock into worker funds each year for a decade. Once the shares are transferred into the funds, workers would begin receiving dividends and have the ability to exercise the voting rights of the shares, including the right to vote on corporate board elections and on shareholder resolutions.


[27-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
dang


[27-Oct-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds good, too bad it;s "never been tested" and therefore can't be done ever


[27-Oct-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theonly economic plan that's been tested is tinkle sprinkle economics, as such it;s the only oen we're allowed to use


[27-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Company is Andy's Roman Stone Works of Detroit, MI


[27-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guessing this "Andy" is a boomer shit


[27-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah probably


[27-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy is SoL, public shaming is really all he's got


[27-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The fired guy


[27-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also old but this is amazing to me


[27-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://image.businessinsider.com/5da58397cc4a0a09d461c913?width=1400&format=jpeg&auto=webp

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[27-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One, why would you ever think that's an acceptable border for your claim


[27-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Two, how fucking up China's ass was DreamWorks to put this in a random movie about a yeti


[27-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's such a fundamentally unfair line that even the US in this situation wouldn't demand it probably


[27-Oct-19 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
useless red circle


[27-Oct-19 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does the movie take place in china?


[27-Oct-19 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[27-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I can actually imagine China raising tiny islands all across the seven seas until everything up to 30 miles from the cost is China


[27-Oct-19 09:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wow, with one question I think you hit the nail on the head

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[27-Oct-19 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so then chances are they were going for locational map accuracy as china is more likely to have and sell those map versions to it;s citizens


[27-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The way China gets pandered to is weird


[27-Oct-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if they tried to pander to Americans by constantly making films about George Washington or having an American flag randomly in the bg


[27-Oct-19 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if this movie took place in taiwan and the map was present, thne dreamworks would have a problem


[27-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like it takes nothing to do it but they go crazy over it


[27-Oct-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's such a superficial amount that stokes their  national pride


[27-Oct-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure it is pandering in this case. it seems more like an attempt at cultural accuracy. But I could be wrong... :shrugpony:


[27-Oct-19 09:43 PM] Patachu#0542
Just, the last Robocop, made in China. The Transformers movies. The GI joes, many Marvel and superheroes stuff... Many franchise reboots features a cooperation with China. Why.


[27-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Patachu#0542
Because they own a chunk of US's debt.


[27-Oct-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because china has a stranglehold on studio stocks, and also some very scenic places for movie shoots?


[27-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Patachu#0542
Also this.


[27-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What was the last movie to have a Chinese villain in it


[27-Oct-19 09:45 PM] Patachu#0542
hah excellent question. Mulan! Er...


[27-Oct-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well mulan;s villain would be genghis kahn


[27-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Patachu#0542
I don't watch a lot of movies I admit.


[27-Oct-19 09:46 PM] Patachu#0542
Might try to move to check the joker, the closest cinema that might broadcast it is at Dijon.


[27-Oct-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the problems is that china doesn't like to air movies within itself if there;s a chinese villain, which in turn fucks with trhe studio profits


[27-Oct-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china also got very mad when kung fu panda released and was a better movie about china than china could make at the time...


[27-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Patachu#0542
yeh... 😦


[27-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of the problem is that they can't help themselves with making heavily nationalism inspired movies


[27-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Pixar only made movies about American folk tales


[27-Oct-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the last chinese villain in atleast a pg-13 movie was iron man 2


[27-Oct-19 09:51 PM] Patachu#0542
many ancap would be like «what's the matter? it's business they are free to do so! It's Freedum~»


[27-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was reading this rag that does nothing but talk about how shitty the West is and they genuinely believed some super Chinese pandery thing based on a folk tale had an Oscar chance


[27-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's like


[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't help yourself


[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1166592.shtml

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Will Ne Zha break out to embrace the Oscar statuette?
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[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Patachu#0542
@Itsthinking well the US had and still have a LOT of cowboy movies i think, far west, stories like that...


[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah this is going to go over super well in the US


[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So appealing


[27-Oct-19 09:53 PM] Patachu#0542
but not a lot of 'lore stuff


[27-Oct-19 09:54 PM] Patachu#0542
heh never heard of this thing


[27-Oct-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think most people will notice the map detail unless it;s pointed out to them


[27-Oct-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Patachu it came out in the US apparently?


[27-Oct-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes, america has a love for western films


[27-Oct-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think my favorite is h8ful eight


[27-Oct-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if only because i havent seen many of them...


[27-Oct-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but @Patachu part of the appeal of the Old West is the bad guys


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Patachu#0542
as long they still have animation studio and aren't bad at it that's a good thing, it's not that i'm against. that's more the condition the people are forc ed to work and live.


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If China had an Old West period they wouldn't make movies about it


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Patachu#0542
yep personally I always liked the bad guys


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Patachu#0542
bad guys unlike heroes are not especially bad, but think differently.


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless they're Micah


[27-Oct-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck Micah


[27-Oct-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china also doesn;t like touching it;s pre-mao history


[27-Oct-19 09:57 PM] Patachu#0542
take by example, Travolta in Broken Arrow, the "good guy" is so annoying you want him to die  all the long of the film. Same wit Pulp Fiction that transcends the idea of good guy /bad guy.  Or the Joker, Discord...


[27-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Patachu#0542
but yeah fuck Micah


[27-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Strauss


[27-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Patachu#0542
nah I like Strauss.


[27-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Patachu#0542
Betthov, Chopin, Mahler..


[27-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's indirectly the reason Arthur dies


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which micah?


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck Micah so hard


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Red Dead Redemption 2


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Patachu#0542
ah ok that's on this game


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah ok i havent played it


[27-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Patachu#0542
oh i get it naw. i always wanted to play it too 😄


[27-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Strauss is @prism stryder(intexda)


[27-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Entire game is "Look at this complete scumbag. Trust him, he's your friend! OH NO HE BETRAYED EVERYONE WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING"


[27-Oct-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i googled micah and all i got was a judaist prophet and i got very confused for a moment


[27-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Patachu#0542
thougth you were tamking about johann Strauss


[27-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he's the loan shark who runs with Arthur's gang and sends him on a collection where he gets TB


[27-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Patachu#0542
oic


[27-Oct-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jackie chan;s the foreigner was a good movie, though completely unrelated to the topic...


[27-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol China turned down Once Upon a Time in Hollywood because it portrays Bruce Lee as kind of a dick


[27-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And his daughter didn't like that


[27-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Patachu#0542
Bruce Lee was actually a pretty redpilled kind of guy, far from being the stereotypical muscle guy a la vandamme/schwartzenegger


[27-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Patachu#0542
I guess being into king fu and martial arts helps a lot being yourself and thinking/meditating.


[27-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a scene where Lee says he could have "crippled" Muhammad Ali


[27-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, anyone could


[27-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One punt to the shin and snap


[27-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though some people's kicks would also send the rest of the leg flying off a bloody mess


[27-Oct-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467666-schiff-says-barr-is-weaponizing-the-justice-department-to-go-after

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Schiff: Barr 'weaponizing' DOJ 'to go after the president's enemies'
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Attorney General Bill Barr “is weaponizing the Justice Department to go after the president’s enemies.”
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[27-Oct-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, that's essentially what barr was hired for. politicians don;t hire barr to be legit, thye hire him to sabotage shit liek a rat


[27-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the report was pretty bad for the GOP


[27-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably only going to be like buttery males


[27-Oct-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in this case it backfired on what they were trying to do with the general public eye


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
My hope for all this is


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
whatever goes on with Trump


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except int he case of trump's supporters who drank the koolaid long ago


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the whole thing drags down everyone in his orbit


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
and permanently scars the ability of the GOP to put in corrupt officials like Barr


[27-Oct-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause really, they've been putting in corrupt assholes to get what they want since Nixon


[27-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are they investigating the origins when the ultimate result was bad for them?


[27-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump put in a swamp, and burn it must.


[27-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP's current strategy, Its, is to obfuscate


[27-Oct-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
bury everyone in information


[27-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
so people can't focus on what's actually fukked


[27-Oct-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they basically want to take meuller's report, and bury it in meuller;s report ten times


[27-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The GOP stance isn't fighting the qpq on substance


[27-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just process


[27-Oct-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Once articles are voted for it will look bad


[27-Oct-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they canlt attack any evidence because they have no counter, so their tactics are attack the process like screaming children in a grocery store so that everyone is distracted


[27-Oct-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if thye have to give away national secrets to other countries to do so


[27-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/467661-secret-x-37b-spaceplane-lands-after-780-days-in-orbit#

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Secret X-37B spaceplane lands after 780 days in orbit
The U.S.
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[27-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really what are we using this for


[27-Oct-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All we see is news of launch and landing


[27-Oct-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're using it as a very fancy elevator


[27-Oct-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd imagine being used for photographing areas before any satellites are available over the area


[27-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It started as a civilian program


[27-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unmanned, i suppose?


[27-Oct-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[27-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Testing new spysat gear in a way where we can figure out what happened to it on the mission.


[27-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the idea is that it's a serious problem if you launch 10 spysats with new tech, and they all break within a year from cosmic rays


[27-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And with no idea how to fix them because they're up in space


[27-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And no, it has no advantage for actual photography


[27-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it only has wings to glide down on reentry, it still orbits like everything else.


[27-Oct-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the missions are way too long for the glide down to be the point.


[27-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, it's doing what the Air Force wanted with the Space Shuttle


[27-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
a testbed that can bring your spysats intact down for study


[27-Oct-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that nowadays we know bringing a whole Hubble-alike spysat up and down is fukking retarded


[27-Oct-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Such a stupid idea to make launching satellites a main feature of a crewed vehicle


[27-Oct-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Air Force is a powerful lobby.


[27-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, and they wasted shitloads on Vandenberg


[27-Oct-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazing to me they never even tried to restart the Shuttle program there


[27-Oct-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They soured on the Shuttle over time


[27-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
they wanted the VentureStar for a bit


[27-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it would've taken massive amounts of money to get it working


[27-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
probably would still not be flying today, as well.


[27-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the US has done what Russia did with Soyuz, but with Apollo


[27-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just never end it, just keep developing and modernizing


[27-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
That gave way to the X-33 which got very close


[27-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo had lots of excess weight


[27-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and dodgy power


[27-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would've killed 3 more people by now


[27-Oct-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you know what each Soyuz module does, right?


[27-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[27-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there's three modules


[27-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
One does like propulsion and power


[27-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
one is where the astronauts go, and is what returns them home


[27-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
one is like a much bigger astronaut area **for reentry aerodynamic ballast**


[27-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, if you remove it, the Soyuz can't reenter


[27-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
it has no actual purpose.


[27-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was meant to be the crew area on long missions, but the Soyuz doesn't do long missions.


[27-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
They tested removing it but then the thing couldn't reenter.


[27-Oct-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So every single Soyuz that ever flies has a huge middle bit whose entire purpose is to be not used and thrown away.


[27-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, fuel cells are garbage


[27-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the Space Shuttle was still using them


[27-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also had a toilet that could depressurize the whole cabin if it broke.


[27-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or fill everyone's lungs with powdered shit.


[27-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
In all seriousness the ISS is one of the best things NASA has ever done


[27-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo was SHIT


[27-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Space Shuttle was SHIT, but also dangerous and wildly expensive to reuse


[27-Oct-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soyuz is SHIT


[27-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Money needs to be invested to make things actually work well.


[28-Oct-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civilian space programs aren't getting what they need.


[28-Oct-19 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Money?


[28-Oct-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And public interest.


[28-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
space exploration is one of those things tricky to find funding for. If it's not military, government's not interested. It will pay _eventually_, but it's very much unfriendly to quarterly reviews or some shit, so private business isn't interested


[28-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
so what remains?


[28-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
National pride, I guess


[28-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Do you want _India_ to be the first on Mars?"


[28-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DESIGNATED SHITTING PLANET


[28-Oct-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Yeah, I actually see it work, with good marketing


[28-Oct-19 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I bet china is working on that thing you didn't want to fund, you should fund it just to show them which country is best"


[28-Oct-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TheChowderhead/status/1188469037757587456

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So, uh, it turns out that the new Modern Warfare game just sorta lies about a US war crime and makes it a Russian one because it needs the US forces to be seen as the good guys.

So that's... I don't really have words for how to feel right now. Disgusted, probably.
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[28-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, don't _all_ US video games do that?


[28-Oct-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
especially 'modern shooters'?


[28-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
at least this is less stupid of a complaint than 'wooooo they made a nazi protagonist'


[28-Oct-19 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
even though it's still incredibly ignorant


[28-Oct-19 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/richard-sackler-oxycontin-oxycodone-strength-conceal-from-doctors-sealed-testimony
https://www.propublica.org/article/oxycontin-purdue-pharma-massachusetts-lawsuit-anti-addiction-market

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Sackler Embraced Plan to Conceal OxyContin’s Strength From Docto...
As OxyContin addiction spurred a national nightmare, a member of the family that has reaped billions of dollars from the painkiller boasted that sales exceeded his “fondest dreams,” according to a secret court document obtained by ProPublica.
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OxyContin Maker Explored Expansion Into “Attractive” Anti-Addi...
Secret portions of a lawsuit allege that Purdue Pharma, controlled by the Sackler family, considered capitalizing on the addiction treatment boom — while going to extreme lengths to boost sales of its controversial opioid.
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[28-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
legal nationwide addictive drug market


[28-Oct-19 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
a wet dream of any commercial organisation in the world


[28-Oct-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, take a real country, giv it a fake name, and make the Russians the ones who committed war crimes invading it.


[28-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
CoD sucks


[28-Oct-19 01:56 AM] Mikey#7286
play better shooters like Doom


[28-Oct-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
the original one, that is :D Not that awful 2016 thing.


[28-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
PjB mod did some amazing things to it.


[28-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Russians and their My Lai Massacre


[28-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is worse than the time they did Wounded Knee


[28-Oct-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the Trail of Tears


[28-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
"awful"


[28-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
excuse me


[28-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
no.


[28-Oct-19 02:00 AM] Mikey#7286
Doom 2016 was fucking great


[28-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, if you compared it to CoD sure...


[28-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Opponent#3498
it was good for a 2016 AAA.


[28-Oct-19 02:03 AM] Opponent#3498
was it _good_? Passable, not amazing.


[28-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
it was pretty fucking great


[28-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
different standards. Not gonna argue that.


[28-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
it still has a 90% on steam


[28-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
they had good marketing, and the game wasn't a total disaster, so, yeah


[28-Oct-19 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
no suprise there.


[28-Oct-19 02:06 AM] Mikey#7286
no i mean, i'd say it was pretty close to the originals in quality and replayability, the only issue is lack of mod support


[28-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
it got linear towards the end, sure, but the original Doom's last 3 episodes kinda dipped in quality as well


[28-Oct-19 02:08 AM] Mikey#7286
compared to Knee Deep in the Dead


[28-Oct-19 02:09 AM] Mikey#7286
Shores of Hell is still great, but some of the levels aren't as well thought out as the first episode, particularly Halls of the Damned, and both secret levels are kinda ass


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean I guess it's 'pretty close' by the standards of today. Forced reliance on melee interactions, ever-present quicktime ledge climbing (but only where it's green lights or yellow markers, no markers make the great and powerful doom slayer insecure), and so on. Cringy story (it's obviously not a concern but it was cringy enough to be noticeable).


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
there were some nifty ideas, like actually finding a purpose for the chainsaw


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
er, the single secret level


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's an exception, not a rule.


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
what?


[28-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Mikey#7286
melee interactions aren't forced


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's merely balanced around them


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
and half the achivements are about them


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
but nope, not forced at all.


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
they're just a means of getting more health, and they literally last seconds


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean if you want all the _optional_ weapon upgrades


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. And you can play on easy without it.


[28-Oct-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm sure you can.


[28-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
idk i managed on Ultra Violence without upgrading every single weapon


[28-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
whoa now I won't accept this slander towards Doom 2016


[28-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
not upgrades. Melee.


[28-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
i only went back and did some of the specific glory kills for completion sake


[28-Oct-19 02:12 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[28-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
there's like 4 required glory kills


[28-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
two for cyberdemon boss


[28-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
one for hell guards


[28-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
and one for spidermastermind


[28-Oct-19 02:13 AM] Mikey#7286
and they're pretty fucking sick if you ask me


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
they add to the experience imo


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
sick as in sickening.


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
doom is about tearing demons


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
we're the bland shade of the imposter of actual doom slayer.


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
it screams doom


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
uh


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[28-Oct-19 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
and the harder devs try to reinforce the 'fantasy' the faster it falls apart


[28-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Mikey#7286
you must be picky because most people who i know that played it love glory kills


[28-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm sure they do.


[28-Oct-19 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
ratings reflect that, after all.


[28-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess you're just an outlier then :p


[28-Oct-19 02:16 AM] Mikey#7286
i mean you do you, but personally i think it's an awesome game and i finished it like 5 times, once on nightmare


[28-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
the one bit of fun I had with the game was directing my friend to secrets according to the guide. Playing that, well, I'd consider it a net loss if I got the game for free.


[28-Oct-19 02:19 AM] Mikey#7286
also, there's only like 5-6 glory kill achievements in the game


[28-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
if it was just classic Doom in a modern coat of paint, that'd have been kind dumb imo


[28-Oct-19 02:20 AM] Mikey#7286
the story as dumb as it is, is extremely minimal


[28-Oct-19 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
if you hadn't yet, I highly advise you to play PjB. Either the base maps, or it's own custom 'starter's pack'.


[28-Oct-19 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
_that_ is how I see Doom successor. Give it a AAA coat of paint and it would be a masterpiece.


[28-Oct-19 02:32 AM] illumnious#7938
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[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
again, you do you, but I see Doom '16 as a worthy successor


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
and Eternal looks even better


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
also idk what pjb is


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
is that an abbreviation for something?


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
Project Brutality.


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
oh


[28-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Mikey#7286
ew


[28-Oct-19 02:34 AM] Mikey#7286
i played that and Brutal Doom but they're not really evolutions of Doom if you ask me, they're fine time wasters


[28-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
but i'm not fond of how loud they are for one, and the addition of reloading kills the pace for me


[28-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
and i don't like making Doomguy talk, keep him silent and let his actions speak for himself


[28-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Mikey#7286
the one liners are just obnoxious


[28-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Mikey#7286
also the guy who made BD is an asshole


[28-Oct-19 02:36 AM] Mikey#7286
Duke Nukem has one liners but they're not loud and they're actually tongue in cheek


[28-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't actually remember any one-liners in the version I played.


[28-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Mikey#7286
project brutality has them


[28-Oct-19 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
there was text, but not voice. Then again, it was a couple years.


[28-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
if it was added after, it's a downgrade.


[28-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Mikey#7286
it might have been


[28-Oct-19 02:38 AM] Mikey#7286
but yeah, i'm just not a fan of DB and PJB


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess we just have different ideas of a good Doom successor


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
however


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Serious Sam or Painkiller :D


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
Doom 3 is worse than both


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
not bad


[28-Oct-19 02:39 AM] Mikey#7286
but not really Doom


[28-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
serious sam seems more like a throwback to Duke imo


[28-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In tone, maybe


[28-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gameplay more resembles what a whole lot of Doom community challenge maps are like


[28-Oct-19 02:40 AM] Mikey#7286
huh


[28-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
i've heard the series is hit or miss though


[28-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess they never miss, huh


[28-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
like serious sam 2 is good, but 3 is


[28-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Mikey#7286
eh


[28-Oct-19 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
to me, D2016 is this wannabe epic thing about a wannabe epic legendary hero, who wouldn't be out of place in a WH40k-verse (although there he'd be just another Joe). In a long string of games over the years with more or less the same idea.


[28-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it falls flat.


[28-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
again you do you


[28-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
to me and many others, it gives Doom more of an identity


[28-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Mikey#7286
and is a proper evolution


[28-Oct-19 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
well there's literally _one_ decent WH40k action game, so no competition there.


[28-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Mikey#7286
for me, the game gives an actually good challenge, good level design and enemy placement, you have to do good positioning, know when to conserve ammo, what weapon works best in what situation


[28-Oct-19 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, permadeath mode was nifty too. Knew there was something else.


[28-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Opponent#3498
although with a game that's so static it's maybe less useful than it could have been otherwise.


[28-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Mikey#7286
in Brutal Doom, and PJB, it makes some of the more poorly designed levels even worse


[28-Oct-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Setting was decent enough, and I really liked the arcade mode


[28-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i didn't play much of arcade mode


[28-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was the best part


[28-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm sad snapmap isn't coming back though


[28-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
maps that are designed for original game balance-wise aren't always playable in PjB. Or if they are, they're RNG- and/or setting-dependant.


[28-Oct-19 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but, well, that's not really a problem.


[28-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Mikey#7286
well, some of the levels put more hitscan enemies than necessary lol


[28-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Mikey#7286
so imagine that in BD


[28-Oct-19 02:48 AM] Mikey#7286
especially Doom 2 when they put one too many chaingunners


[28-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Mikey#7286
Thy Flesh Consumed


[28-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Mikey#7286
now that's the definition of a tacked on episode


[28-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>he doesn't like chaingunner spam maps


[28-Oct-19 02:49 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[28-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, in this context. If you want an evolution of genre - Dusk.


[28-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
plutonia is quite the expansion


[28-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
eh


[28-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Mikey#7286
Dusk is more akin to Quake/Blood


[28-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
and does a better job at what Quake tried to do


[28-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing like having to walk along 2-inch wide jump puzzle BS with 50 chaingunners spread around the area inside little windows


[28-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
is that a custom map or


[28-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Mikey#7286
a plutonia map


[28-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
sounds like a combination of The Chasm and one of the many chaingunner spam maps in plutonia


[28-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't remember


[28-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it was bullshit


[28-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Mikey#7286
i wouldn't be surprised either way


[28-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it was Plutonia it was late into it, after nuked city bits


[28-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Mikey#7286
btw if you like constant spam of corridors, Romero's Doom 1 unofficial E5 is for you


[28-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
`It requires an extra addon, because most people found them annoying.`


[28-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
@ oneliners in PjB


[28-Oct-19 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
so you weren't the only one.


[28-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
it wasn't an addon for me


[28-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
Brutal Doom has them by default though


[28-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I suppose he added it, got entirely negative feedback, and cut it out.


[28-Oct-19 02:54 AM] Mikey#7286
BD has it as of the latest version


[28-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
weird, I'm looking at people _wondering_ how to enable them, from not too long ago.


[28-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Mikey#7286
idk


[28-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Mikey#7286
i haven't touched it in ages


[28-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
well, it's still in development, so... maybe not the latest version then?


[28-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Mikey#7286
BD v21 was released this year


[28-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, about the time when the specific question I saw was.


[28-Oct-19 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
weird.


[28-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh my only thing with Doom Eternal is that bethesda might ruin it


[28-Oct-19 03:01 AM] Mikey#7286
i doubt id will keep cranking out new Dooms after Eternal though


[28-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Mikey#7286
Eternal is coming 4 years after 2016, and i can't imagine another one after for at least 5 more years


[28-Oct-19 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
no sympathy from me. If it dies it dies. If it lives, well, it's literally more of the same going the same direction, so the same crowd will be satisfied.


[28-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Mikey#7286
it's not gonna be the same thing


[28-Oct-19 03:04 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
id is more of an innovator than a developer that cranks out carbon copy games every year


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean they added what, the chain jump?


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
different weapon progression?


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
eternal added a number of new things


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
gameplay is 95%+ the same


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
adds


[28-Oct-19 03:05 AM] Mikey#7286
stuff like the meathook, so it'll make for more aerial combat


[28-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Mikey#7286
new enemies,


[28-Oct-19 03:06 AM] Mikey#7286
two pretty unique multiplayer modes


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
it's only similar because it's the closest Doom release to another besides Doom 2


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
which Doom 2 actually didn't innovate at all really


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SUPER SHOTGUN


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
it was literally Doom 2 with one new weapon and a few new demons


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
D2 was more of the same as well, absolutely.


[28-Oct-19 03:07 AM] Mikey#7286
Eternal is not "more of the same"


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
it adds more new


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
than D2 did


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll take your word on it.


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
battlemode is pretty innovative


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The MP?


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
it's basically two players play demons and fight one guy as Doom Slayer


[28-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been done before


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
ah


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just not in a AAA game


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
i've never really seen it before


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But plenty of HL2 mods and UT2k3/4 mods/mutators for it


[28-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
huh


[28-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
invasions seem cool, though they're waiting til post release for that now


[28-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UT2k3/4 had some official mutators for "one player is ultra, others hunt him", and mods/community mutators that worked on that


[28-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And HL2 had loads of mods like The Hidden and the sort along the same line


[28-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Mikey#7286
also, it's using new id tech


[28-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
there's plenty of 'mainstream-ish' games that have a vs mode in one form or another.


[28-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dark Souls Doom could be interesting


[28-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
L4d2 and Killing Floor come to mind, for example


[28-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as I can opt out easily for when I'm really not in the mood


[28-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Mikey#7286
well i'm sure you'll be able to


[28-Oct-19 03:11 AM] Mikey#7286
i do hope they give Doom a break after Eternal


[28-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Mikey#7286
~~and give Quake some single player love~~


[28-Oct-19 03:12 AM] Mikey#7286
~~that's not strogg~~


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I still need to play that Quake game with story


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
seriously Quake Champions is just not working out at all


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Quake 4?


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
Quake 2 had it as well, but it was a bit more subtle


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Mikey#7286
i wanna see a new Quake in the vein of Quake 1


[28-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
Champions was just a quick and dirty money grab.


[28-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
no, not really


[28-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
riding on the f2p popularity wave.


[28-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[28-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
there might have been some decent ideas to it but I dunno.


[28-Oct-19 03:14 AM] Mikey#7286
they were trying to revive the competitive arena shooter scene


[28-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Mikey#7286
the f2p model was probably bethesda's decision


[28-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Mikey#7286
but id wanted to bring back arena shooters


[28-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Arena Shooters are dead for now tho


[28-Oct-19 03:16 AM] Mikey#7286
Epic even abandoned Unreal Tournament 4 in favor of Fortnite


[28-Oct-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Epic has a lot of money, but the problem is money can't hire talent that doesn't exist


[28-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
UT4 was promising at least


[28-Oct-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Oct-19 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
it was supposed to be entirely community driven


[28-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
Epic might have money, too bad they're only concerned with fortnite and  buying their way to monopoly as a distribution platform.


[28-Oct-19 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[28-Oct-19 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
well, everything proceeds as expected.


[28-Oct-19 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
he says the lines people expect them to say, protesters keep crying about children as people expect them to do


[28-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/rep-katie-hill-to-resign-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-relationships-with-staffers-000301

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[28-Oct-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like the one time I agree with Gaetz


[28-Oct-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a political hit, as a private citizen people in CA are protected from revenge porn


[28-Oct-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is absurd


[28-Oct-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
the accusation is that Hill and her husband did a threesome with a staffer


[28-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or wait, her and two staffers?


[28-Oct-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY DO LIKE NO ARTICLES WANT TOTALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL ALLEGATION


[28-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/leaked-nude-photo-of-rep-katie-hill-show-bong-apparent-iron-cross-tattoo/

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Freshman California Congresswoman Katie Hill is starring in a ­lurid, snowballing sex scandal — a very public saga complete with leaked nude snapshots, alleged bong use and a questionable tattoo. M…
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[28-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so it was polyamory with one of the staffers, and her husband


[28-Oct-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
this doesn't say what the deal with the other staffer was.


[28-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
so she fucks around. And it impacts her office... how exactly?


[28-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, and the husband leaked the photos as he was divorcing her.


[28-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, lovely.


[28-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, woman with ideas comes to congress, young and ready to takkle actual problems


[28-Oct-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's bi and her shitty husband convinces her it's okay to sleep with some staffers


[28-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
after a while, things break down, and he decides to end her political career, with random Republicans helping


[28-Oct-19 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds about right.


[28-Oct-19 08:59 AM] Opponent#3498
@Mikey a cursory glance across the forums proved that, while people with my opinion on D2016 are a minority, they're consistent and not just a crazy one-off outlier. And they, apparently like me, consider BD/PjB 'the thing', with the same points of contention: glory kills, damage stunning and not killing outright (i.e. glory kills), poor pacing (again, glory kills, they really are the core game mechanic with many issues stemming from it), some more stuff of this kind plus minor grips like mobility.


[28-Oct-19 09:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and on the 90% approval ratings on Steam, I just realised something. You can only rate a game you buy. Obviously people who didn't want it, didn't buy it. And like I said before, marketing was up to par, and the game delivered what it promised, so those who did spend the money, went satisfied.


[28-Oct-19 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't mean the entire fanbase loves it. Just means devs were transparent about it, for once (a very positive thing in it's own right, no doubt, I wish people didn't pull an Anthem so often)


[28-Oct-19 10:38 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Epic has a lot of money, but the problem is money can't hire talent that doesn't exist
But money can buy the best possible marketing.


[28-Oct-19 10:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50205603

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EU agrees to Brexit deadline extension up to 31 January 2020, says Donald Tusk
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[28-Oct-19 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9a40cd70453c49c38f4decf3ee235ef7

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[28-Oct-19 11:32 AM] Patachu#0542
UK : We want our brexit for late October
EU : Okay let's do this in January
UK : For fucks's sake, this is the last time! The last time!
EU : You know, we're just an administration akin to the others.


[28-Oct-19 11:32 AM] Patachu#0542
this guy ❤

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[28-Oct-19 11:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fun fact, if tip or transfer is done with cash, it is untraceable.

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[28-Oct-19 11:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the UK that keeps asking for delays, darkdoomer


[28-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Patachu#0542
so it's really internal, labor party putting pressure against Boris Johnson... I thought the PM had a bit more power to get things done.


[28-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Labour's barely "to blame"


[28-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
torie party itself doesn't know what it wants


[28-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the DUP party


[28-Oct-19 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those are not pro-EU


[28-Oct-19 01:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/iamalexxramos/status/1185205865156141057?s=19

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If you work a 9-5, are broke and coming home every night to watch Netflix, you deserve to stay broke.

Every night you should be coming home and selling something, creating something, learning something, etc.

You should be constantly leveling yourself up.

Netflix won’t...
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[28-Oct-19 01:44 PM] Mikey#7286
@Opponent cool, they're still just opinions


[28-Oct-19 01:44 PM] Mikey#7286
One that most doom fans disagree with


[28-Oct-19 01:45 PM] Mikey#7286
A two second melee kill animation is hardly a valid flaw against a game


[28-Oct-19 01:45 PM] Mikey#7286
Or anything remotely resembling legitimate criticism


[28-Oct-19 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Never take breaks! You can rest when you fucking die! If you take breaks, you should be poor and homeless!


[28-Oct-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on that note, netflix can be very educational, and it has become a pretty good tool for film classes like the one i took last semester


[28-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy runs a Facebook marketing company and sells a get rich quick scam book


[28-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not doing something new, he's relying on the same shit others do and running an age old scam


[28-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Mikey#7286
Lmao


[28-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
it's valid enough for people who care.


[28-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is he the reason comment sections have "I was making 34.000 a year on my 9 to 5, but now I work from home and make $400 a day!" spam


[28-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
the general crowd, well, it does what it usually does.


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not an actual criticism


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
chase the next shiny thing, tail wagging :3


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Mikey#7286
It's an opinion


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
what's the difference between an opinion and valid criticism then?


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
last time I heard, the only difference is scale.


[28-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Mikey#7286
Objectivity?


[28-Oct-19 02:07 PM] Mikey#7286
"I don't like trivial two second animation that doesn't take away from the game"


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The real money isn't in passive income


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's convincing idiots that passive income is a thing


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
'I don't like trivial unnessesary cutscene every other moment that breaks the flaw of the game constantly'


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
fixed it for you.


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
explanation is usually the difference, like you can say soemthing sucks but if you dont give good reasons as to why it sucks, it just becomes an opinion and no one can learn from it


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Mikey#7286
🙄


[28-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Mikey#7286
It's not a cutscene


[28-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Mikey#7286
It's an extremely short OPTIONAL animation


[28-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
it's optional as much as any other core mechanic is.


[28-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
you _can_ do without.


[28-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Mikey#7286
It doesn't do a damn thing to break the flow


[28-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Mikey#7286
End of story


[28-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Opponent#3498
never said you couldn't. Well, you technically _couldn't_, but boss fights are always heavily cutscened these days, that's no suprise. I'll give that a pass. It is _practically optional_.


[28-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Opponent#3498
never mind that the entire balance and gameplay loop is designed around the idea.


[28-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Mikey#7286
This conversation didn't really need to be continued tbh


[28-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
you had to respond *shrug*


[28-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Mikey#7286
We said all we needed last night


[28-Oct-19 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
`Fun fact, if tip or transfer is done with cash, it is untraceable.`


[28-Oct-19 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
loved that.


[28-Oct-19 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
he's permitted to gift 14k a year, thinking is clearly still restricted.


[28-Oct-19 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bethesda has created a class warfare simulator in fallout 76 and it;s very entertaining


[28-Oct-19 02:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
isn't that $100 pass broken and making things harder for people that payed by deleting their inventory?


[28-Oct-19 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but also the regular players are attacking and greifing anyone who has the fallout 1st icon


[28-Oct-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[28-Oct-19 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
1 of 4 images


[28-Oct-19 02:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Literally beating the rich.


[28-Oct-19 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Oct-19 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[28-Oct-19 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it may suck at a game, but the community is clearly going strong 😂


[28-Oct-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you sure todd howard isn;t running vault tech?


[28-Oct-19 02:50 PM] Patachu#0542
@Itsthinking exactly this. Don't be a consumer. Make stuff yourself. Draw, DIY, fix things that are broken or even, give it a try. Pick your laptop and learn a programming language, get interested into something. 
TV is just distraction that forces people into an endless cycle of being fed up by tubes and absorbs the small amount people earned everyday, causing stagnation.


[28-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am interested in gaming, will this work?


[28-Oct-19 02:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy does nothing unique, he's running scams other people invented @Patachu


[28-Oct-19 02:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Opponent unless you declare it or someone rats out I.e. this slip.


[28-Oct-19 02:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why I always leave this field empty.  Tip? I have no idea what are you talking about. I paid by card. Waiter? He got nothing, it says nothing.


[28-Oct-19 03:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though, here is tax-free bracket for earners.


[28-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Patachu#0542
@Itsthinking ah, another example oif "do what I say not what I do" motivational/emo-coach like that spurts on facebook


[28-Oct-19 03:11 PM] Patachu#0542
but the citation itself is right, drowning in consumerism, sitting in front of TV instead of reading/writing/crafting stuff makes people not productive, people don't even take the time to cook their own stuff. "Pff. You're preparing food? I'm gonna order thing at JustEat, or a pizza!"


[28-Oct-19 03:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He sells a "get rich quick" book that is probably just "sell a book like this" on the inside

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[28-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Mikey#7286
Lol


[28-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Patachu#0542
i see. "Get rich, buy my book, and even later I can coach you to be even richer for online courses for only 99$/mo ! "


[28-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Patachu#0542
"it works for me, look, I'm rich! "


[28-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Mikey#7286
Kinda reminds me of that millionaire douche who said if you play video games or watch anime you're a loser


[28-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Patachu#0542
Elon: «Listen here you little shit...»


[28-Oct-19 03:18 PM] Patachu#0542
https://twitter.com/iamalexxramos/status/1184949173428379649 okay, this man is confirmed completely inept to anyhting related to business.

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If you run a business, I highly recommend a subscription offer.

Every biz I’ve ever owned, I’ve offered some sort of subscription.

Think of it this way...

If you could get 417 people to pay you $20/m, that’s 6-figures a year.

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[28-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see point on consumerism. Problem is, you are already spend almost (if not all) doing something productive for someone else who just pays you and does nothing (almost).


[28-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You will be drained by the end of day to do anything at all.


[28-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the only way is to relax is to watch TV and a can of beer.


[28-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah this is perfectly comprehensible, but at this point you have a serious job and want time to do nothing


[28-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Patachu#0542
at this point you have done something productive on your day and feel it


[28-Oct-19 03:34 PM] Patachu#0542
but I know people who are on welfare and just complain they only have 400eu/mo to spend on things. They make more doing nothing than I do with a job.


[28-Oct-19 03:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And we get to point why people slack on their job: they are tired of standstill grind.


[28-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Patachu#0542
possible, that's also a thing, or they don't see on the long term, that even if they are not productive, they won't make it long and you'll see their resume the week after in the inbox.


[28-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
do bare minimum to satisfy the employer. There's rarely any need to try hard, as the pay never scales with it.


[28-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Patachu#0542
people must keep in mind to work for themselves first.


[28-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
merely the expectations grow, and your 'more' becomes the new 'normal'


[28-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Patachu#0542
and every job should be rewarding for that.


[28-Oct-19 03:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Job becomes a bore


[28-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Patachu#0542
instead of  « okay tomorrow after the coffee we will have yet another meeting trying to understand why our numbers are falling and what kind of synergy we should adopt for the company and our business model could not be adapted»


[28-Oct-19 03:39 PM] Patachu#0542
«what about just opening Excel and checking the fucking GL file, it takes 30, 40 minutes maxi!»


[28-Oct-19 03:39 PM] Opponent#3498
people hire 'productive managers', and they productively manage *shrug*


[28-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Opponent#3498
if you solve someone's problems, there's no reason to keep you around anymore.


[28-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Report this, report that, report there. For years.


[28-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Patachu#0542
depends, when you have something that keeps you really busy, creative or office stuff, or even DIY, you can't stop. well, the last job gave me more autism than the one about sketching critters for an ad/cartoon thing.


[28-Oct-19 03:40 PM] Opponent#3498
what you do need as a manager is try your damndest to tailor the business around your presence


[28-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda like pharmacy industry. Don't heal people, sustain them.


[28-Oct-19 03:41 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah also bring coaches, analysts ,  consultants who will sell new software..


[28-Oct-19 03:42 PM] Patachu#0542
all kind of shit like that, and people wonder why the economy is buggy. if to begin with people had more independence, in everything, and freedom that would boost things.


[28-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
to begin with the scale was much smaller. You _need_ an oversight presence. The problem comes with multiple cycles of 'this job pays well, I wanna do it', drowning the market in 'managers' and convincing everyone that a 2-people op needs a dedicated manager.


[28-Oct-19 03:44 PM] Patachu#0542
some company needs a graphic designer for a logo? Hire one for a couple of days and that's done. Everyone should be able to work as a freelance, not married to a company and vice-versa. Money is a thing. Time is something else. When my job is done, it's true, I want to appreciate free time doing nothing. no shopping , nothing at all, just walking outdoors. Time is a thing that can not be compressed but quantified in hours you spend into being productive, and useless.


[28-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
Waste of time should be comparable to waste of money or waste of natural resource


[28-Oct-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We can pay you in explosure"

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[28-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
when you arrive to old age, "fuck, I spent all my life doing the same thing."


[28-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
@prism stryder(intexda) nah, ISIS does that.


[28-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume he meant 'exposure' with an as-intended typo.


[28-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
suprisingly common for artists.


[28-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah was just joking


[28-Oct-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the typo was unintended but i elft it because it was funny


[28-Oct-19 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
people think art is shit that's free somehow.


[28-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Patachu#0542
and that's why people are like "how dare you ask for money for doing something you love to do for free?"


[28-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Freelance put you in shoes not only of developer, but also line manager, ceo, sales department,  pr, receptionist.


[28-Oct-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll pay you to push carts in my store for exposure!


[28-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not for faint


[28-Oct-19 03:47 PM] Patachu#0542
reminds me years ago when I fixed a friend's computer. «whoa, perfect, it's fast... Thanks again but you're dumb, you could be rich doing that job.»


[28-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's artisan


[28-Oct-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unpaid intern is basically the "i'll pay you in exposure" equivalent of a full job


[28-Oct-19 03:48 PM] Patachu#0542
«Yeah well, let's talk about the moving, the three hour intervention, reinstall, cleanup, retrieving your documents, that'll be 240eur. I prefer liquid but if you have cash, you can pay in mutiple times.»


[28-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Patachu#0542
When you are starting being generous and help people and they start fucking up with you...


[28-Oct-19 03:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However I've heard stories of janitors earning moee than developers on permanent basis.


[28-Oct-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with today's developer business practices, i wouldnt be at all surprised


[28-Oct-19 03:50 PM] Patachu#0542
Depends where they are. Sure any janitor will make more per hour than an indian developing database products


[28-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some CIS state medium town.


[28-Oct-19 03:51 PM] Patachu#0542
Speaking of the dosh, anyone from the staff in #derpibooru-help ?


[28-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Paying in self-importance and bragging rights :pudding:


[28-Oct-19 03:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And devs do these things for "exposure".


[28-Oct-19 03:55 PM] Patachu#0542
in a sense, that's how free software emerged. People make things they are proud of and want people to use it. When you have "Contributed the development of the Nouveau driver" "fixed compatibilities issues in compiz modules" and if ever you have "added thumbnail view in the GNU GTK filepicker" you can get virtually any job you want.


[28-Oct-19 03:55 PM] Patachu#0542
sure it's always prefferable to do a job you like to do.


[28-Oct-19 03:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What if one does this all day and it is way more stressing, one would rather do something mindless, like COD or TV.


[28-Oct-19 04:00 PM] Patachu#0542
«Heh, linux. It's worthless, now everyone use Android and i have an Imac, why the Linux nerds will never be» - says the guy who use 90% of free software with a fancy UI added on it to become some property of a brand


[28-Oct-19 04:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why GPL.


[28-Oct-19 04:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Protects against corporate evil.


[28-Oct-19 04:01 PM] Patachu#0542
My biggest grudge with the free sofrware , GNU/GPL and all is that it allows a corporation to use it, and redistribute such software for a fee.


[28-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Patachu#0542
and no it doesn't much protects it.


[28-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
sounds like work for CC BY NC


[28-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Patachu#0542
And that is a much more logical license. Absolute extremist libertarians will say "it has restrictions" but no.


[28-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Patachu#0542
it's just not to lose money, and get others to make money on something you made for free.


[28-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Patachu#0542
When you create something for free, accessible for all, like a drawing, or play music in the streets, and someone sells shirts with your cool design on it because you made it public, or someone samples your mad riffs for his wubtech album, you lose something, because people will pay for a commercial product of your work. That's what's inacceptable when you see commercial CD and DVDs of Krita, Gimp, libreoffice, LinuxMint... But they are ok about that. Not all developers are, sure, but "Hey look at the terms of the gahnou license!"


[28-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Patachu#0542
...Emailed Stallman about this, once. "It's freedom, even freedom of selling a LibreOffice half the price of Microsoft Office with benefits going all to the guy who prints and burn CDs all the time, and it's legal"


[28-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Patachu#0542
that's his point of view. To me it's exploitation and like you say, a Creative Commons, attribution and noncommercial is much more ethical than absolute freedom.


[28-Oct-19 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

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Innuendo Studios
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The Alt-Right Playbook: How to Radicalize a Normie
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[28-Oct-19 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Watching later as this is 41 minutes long


[28-Oct-19 04:12 PM] Patachu#0542
note : not all commerical distros are the same, Suse includes a lot of intresting stuff like YaST, Oracle Linux is really productivity oriented and has a chunk of tools, and RHEL is really reinforced in security and all, but MacOS is nothing but a BSD distro now, with just ...ugly icons and a dock....


[28-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Patachu#0542
Nazis! Nazis everywhere~


[28-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Patachu#0542
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187861209942495234 @Byte you posted this one yet?

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187861209942495234
To Tim: The Button on the IPhone was FAR better than the Swipe!
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[28-Oct-19 04:33 PM] Patachu#0542
"I don't like this new thing"
>buy the thing anyways
"noooo"


[28-Oct-19 04:35 PM] Patachu#0542
consumerists are leeches. Even Trump is lowering in my estimate at this point. "Oh no Windows 15 is out I will need to buy a new computer" "Oh no the iDroid 34 will come this season mine will be old and I don't like the noises it makes. >ringtone sounds like a man cumming "Aaaaah~"


[28-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Patachu#0542
"I prefered my old one"


[28-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have no choice.  I am clinging to my 2012 phone for long as possible.


[28-Oct-19 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Support gets deprected, batteries weaken, screen burns out...


[28-Oct-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i find it weird when people are like "You should get out there, create art, cartoons, and other forms of media!" and thne turn aroudn and shame people for consuming said art/media...


[28-Oct-19 04:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I also used to be like that until I took ~~arrow to the knee~~ job


[28-Oct-19 04:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
These people have too much time on their hands.


[28-Oct-19 05:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it me or I find students who meddle with politics without really knowing how world works and being useful agenda fodder?


[28-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Patachu#0542
same, still have a blackberry Q10 but... its battery still outlasts a rather recent Samsung.


[28-Oct-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/australia-face-verification-service-proposed-for-online-porn-age-filter/

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Australia wants to use face-matching to verify people downloading porn
Proving that you're old enough for online porn could get a lot more awkward.
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[28-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Patachu#0542
new it lasted one week and half depending of the usage. now, 5 days.


[28-Oct-19 05:11 PM] Patachu#0542
VPN!


[28-Oct-19 05:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You know the drill...


[28-Oct-19 05:11 PM] Patachu#0542
or maybe print a photo of some handsome man.


[28-Oct-19 05:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hah. I hope not with link to govt identity db.


[28-Oct-19 05:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-t3Q1_Plo

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Most Americans Officially OPPOSE Free Speech And Want Jail Time Fo...
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[28-Oct-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically they want people to face consequences for hateful language that harms people


[28-Oct-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s not an opposition to free speech, you still get to yell your hateful shit, you just don;t get away with it scott free


[28-Oct-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most hate speech involves calling someone a slur and then threatening your target with some form of punishment for not conforming to your world view. That's why it;s called *hate speech*


[28-Oct-19 05:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
except there is those that are trying to redefine hate speech to be things like misgendering someone or failing to do something that is accepted in their culture but not in others.


[28-Oct-19 05:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
again in any case I feel the possibility of jail time is a bit much for speech alone.


[28-Oct-19 05:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
we have enough overcrowding as is


[28-Oct-19 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then stop punishing drug addicts


[28-Oct-19 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and people who fail to cut their lawn a certain length


[28-Oct-19 05:24 PM] Patachu#0542
these people are completely inane


[28-Oct-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drug addicts should be rehalbilitated, not imprisoned


[28-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and what if a drug addict says something that is "hate speech"? back to prison then?


[28-Oct-19 05:25 PM] Patachu#0542
nah i was talking about the commie who's like "Abolish free speech cause it hurts people"


[28-Oct-19 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people advocating fro hate speech punishment are talking about those that use hate speech tot hreaten people with violence, or soem other form of punishment. If the drug addict threatened to kill someone for being gay, then yes they should absolutely go to prison


[28-Oct-19 05:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
there's already laws on the books for things like "incitement of violence."


[28-Oct-19 05:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
also back to the drug addict scenario. What if the addict said that while high? would he still be charged and sent to prison for that even though he was under the influence at the time?


[28-Oct-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depends on the type of drug, some drugs don;t mess with brains like that while some do


[28-Oct-19 05:31 PM] Patachu#0542
there is no hate speech, only hate acts.


[28-Oct-19 05:31 PM] Patachu#0542
also arres drug dealers, make the punishment exemplary


[28-Oct-19 05:31 PM] Patachu#0542
but do it seriously.


[28-Oct-19 05:31 PM] Patachu#0542
I like how Russia deals with it.


[28-Oct-19 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so like if you use hate speech while high on nicotine, yes you should face some sort of consequence


[28-Oct-19 05:32 PM] Patachu#0542
...this is bullshit. Even completely high you can say what you want


[28-Oct-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thne you get to shit liek bath salts


[28-Oct-19 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bath salts are fun


[28-Oct-19 05:32 PM] Patachu#0542
i wonder what it's like to be high on nicotine... expensive, for sure.


[28-Oct-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that hard hoenstly, one cig will do it


[28-Oct-19 05:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and what about drunkenness. what if some guy at a bar get's drunk and shares what he thinks is a funny joke even if in actuality its racist? jailtime for him too?


[28-Oct-19 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nicotine doesnt; carry an intense high, it carries a penalty for not keeping that high going


[28-Oct-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humor is a different thing entirely


[28-Oct-19 05:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you say that. but you have folks out there that believe there's no difference


[28-Oct-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
humor doesnt tend to come with threats against people


[28-Oct-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well until you get to fringe groups...


[28-Oct-19 05:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
some people feel that jokes lead to threats


[28-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Patachu#0542
What about let's not touch free speech, at all, and tell its opponents to choke on my filly futa horsedick til they bleed


[28-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Patachu#0542
hey i should print that on a tee


[28-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
how many have been smeared for a poor taste joke from 10+ years ago on twitter.


[28-Oct-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the public court of opinion is a nightmare scenario


[28-Oct-19 05:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then you see my point on why jail time is a dangerous idea.


[28-Oct-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking more along the lines of fines for hate speech being mroe appropriate


[28-Oct-19 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless you bring threats of violence and lynching into it, then yeah court should be brought in


[28-Oct-19 05:37 PM] Patachu#0542
that's the thing, when moralities changes, when new laws are made, you can take down someone's Twitter or Facebook by reporting a "LMAO you're such a fag d00d" a decade ago back when it was not "hate speech" or even not homophobic.


[28-Oct-19 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how was that not homophobic? It wasn;t considered hate speech, but the entire intent behidn that insult was the fact that it was homophobic


[28-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Patachu#0542
nah, at some point fag is a suffix. even gay people used it. I, for one am a huge furfag, and I'm proud of it.


[28-Oct-19 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but it wasnt liek that back in the 90's to early 2000's that's called language evolution


[28-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Patachu#0542
no, this is a massacre.


[28-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Patachu#0542
a degeneracy due to a general weakening and political correctness reducing your freedoms.


[28-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then wouldn't hate speech laws harm the evolution of language?


[28-Oct-19 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is the N word ever going to be used positively instead of negatively by anyone other than black people?


[28-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Patachu#0542
it totally does since anything you don't like and want to silence is hatespeech for the people who want to ban things,


[28-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Patachu#0542
exactly like religious people.


[28-Oct-19 05:43 PM] Patachu#0542
"This is so unchristian" was the 90-2000s., this even weaker generation is just like those bible bashers. "This is not politically correct yikes"


[28-Oct-19 05:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the swastika is still seen as a hate symbol because we still give it power even though it would've died out and became a regular karmic symbol again otherwise. ww2 is almost a century ago


[28-Oct-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure the manjuu coudl ever be restored to it;s former glory after the whole holocaust thing


[28-Oct-19 05:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i think it can be. if we allow it to be


[28-Oct-19 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, I don't think killing a few million people for the sake of their birth mothers is going to be forgotten in just 100 years


[28-Oct-19 05:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its still regularly used in Asian countries after all.


[28-Oct-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except literal nazis are still using it to eman what it meant in world war 2


[28-Oct-19 05:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because we still give it power


[28-Oct-19 05:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Too much damage, it is a new symbol


[28-Oct-19 05:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if we stopped. they would move on to a different symbol


[28-Oct-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why thew chaplin stache is never coming back


[28-Oct-19 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hitler shot it to death


[28-Oct-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking college, i have to go to class now :hopeless:


[28-Oct-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have fun with the discussion


[28-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Patachu#0542
making a parody of hitleresque characters is one thing. There have been several massacres in the 20th century, this is different. The Holocaust, Holdomor, the Tutsi, the Armenian genocide...


[28-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Have fun while you can,  @prism stryder(intexda)


[28-Oct-19 05:47 PM] Patachu#0542
Yeah. and better enjoy someone pays for it.


[28-Oct-19 05:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not many aware of Holodomor.


[28-Oct-19 05:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
WW2 was too widespread.


[28-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Patachu#0542
yep and it's only centered on the european scene. Millions and millions died, not just in gas chambers, not just jewish people, as it is being reduced like BHL would repeat "Hitler, six millions! "  Nah. The WW2 is a war. It's 70 to 80 million victims.


[28-Oct-19 05:53 PM] Patachu#0542
I wonder what was more atrocious. Being gased in a gas chamber or being burned alive  a morning of July 1945 by nuclear fire.  There is no "X was worse than Y", it is the bottom of the bottom.


[28-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The latter more humane


[28-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Patachu#0542
The only thing that makes Hitler worse than Stalin is that at least Stalin didn't break the NAP.


[28-Oct-19 05:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But other things make stalin equivalent to Hitler


[28-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Like holodomor and mass repressions.


[28-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah all the concentration camps, the ideology, the regime, cut of personality...


[28-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the nation was changed forever.


[28-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Patachu#0542
what if Hitler never existed.


[28-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Then he would be the one.


[28-Oct-19 05:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Red Alert heh


[28-Oct-19 05:58 PM] Patachu#0542
We would still have a situation where the Europe falls into a dictatorship fighting against communism with the same kind of ideology, and the cold war would happen, but hotter.


[28-Oct-19 05:58 PM] Patachu#0542
ah never played that game, is that a bit the scenario?


[28-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Patachu#0542
«What if I went back in time  and killed Hitler?» News : "Schizophrenic jew assassinates a painter and a world war vet!" Goebbels :"I as a chancelor can fix this!"


[28-Oct-19 06:01 PM] Patachu#0542
there are things that are like, inevitable, that can be different but there's never one unique causality to a line of events or timeline.


[28-Oct-19 06:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In the game, Hitler was removed out of existence and replaced by stalin due to lack of stopping factor


[28-Oct-19 06:03 PM] Patachu#0542
interesting. Was it based off a book or something alike?


[28-Oct-19 06:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you also had Kaine manipulating events behind the scenes of RA1


[28-Oct-19 06:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nope not on any book


[28-Oct-19 06:04 PM] Patachu#0542
ok


[28-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheChowderhead/status/1188469037757587456

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https://twitter.com/TheChowderhead/status/1188469037757587456
So, uh, it turns out that the new Modern Warfare game just sorta lies about a US war crime and makes it a Russian one because it needs the US forces to be seen as the good guys.

So that's... I don't really have words for how to feel right now. Disgusted, probably.
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[28-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[28-Oct-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Possibly Hanlon's Razor


[28-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/StormYorha/status/1188843087470252034

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Storm Yorha🌛 @spooky season (@StormYorha)
https://twitter.com/StormYorha/status/1188843087470252034
"dO yOu kNoW wHaT bOoMeR mEaNs"

when being baffled that a mundane word is being used as a meme is your personality trait
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[28-Oct-19 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
meanwhile https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50205603

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EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January
The UK will not now leave the EU on Thursday, as MPs prepare to vote on a December election.
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[28-Oct-19 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
FUCKING LEAVE ALREADY


[28-Oct-19 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I WANT IT TO END


[28-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1188231163372036096

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[28-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
um


[28-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
bernie, what are you doing


[28-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
oh, it's not as bad as I thought it was


[28-Oct-19 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not wrong


[28-Oct-19 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
not 'obey instantly'. Don't aggravate the situation. If it's about the race, it's emotional. Don't make it more emotional.


[28-Oct-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
US police are unbelievably unrestrained


[28-Oct-19 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
So yeah


[28-Oct-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Not even an ounce of discipline; if it moves in the dark, fucking shoot it


[28-Oct-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
People who were in the military routinely get fired from police forces for failure to shoot, even if that was because the officer chose to deescalate instead


[28-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
```I like how Russia deals with it.```


[28-Oct-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
you mean support drug trade and traffic in it's own country?


[28-Oct-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
make the organisations supposed to counter them the players in their own right?


[28-Oct-19 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
for some reason I think you don't understand how Russia _actually_ deals with it's drug trade, or the world you want isn't at all a good place to live on this factor alone.


[28-Oct-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
@Patachu


[28-Oct-19 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
their drug laws exist for the sole purpose of making the dealers and users dependant on the cooperation with the law enforcement.


[28-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
as for 'hate speech'. Either nothing is hate speech, or everything is hate speech. It's too subjective. Nebbie with her anti-establishment propaganda. That's easy hate speech. Would you people want that to become directly persecutable?


[28-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
agitating against government. Again, easy hate speech. Russia jails people on occasion for blog posts with that. They call it 'extremism'.


[28-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
someone says something and you don't like that. That's between you and them. That's your free speech. The moment you involve government in this, free speech is over.


[28-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Opponent#3498
hate speech laws are THE worst thing born out of the perpetually offended left.


[28-Oct-19 07:12 PM] Opponent#3498
because even the mere fact of _proving_ the person said what you think they said can be tricky at times and relies on perception and biases, not facts.


[28-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
not everything is # gasthejews1488


[28-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageImperialism/comments/com6bx/an_outoftown_white_supremest_tried_to_throw_a/

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An out-of-town white supremest tried to throw a straight pride par...
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[28-Oct-19 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
> We are a totally peaceful racist group


[28-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, this was posted before. It deserves to be watched again.


[28-Oct-19 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
:bigbrain:


[28-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Patachu#0542
this is what you don't want to become : an authortiarian regime.


[28-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Patachu#0542
Authoritarianism always start with feeble people who are offended by 'thing' and claim they are persecuted


[28-Oct-19 07:53 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/10/28/20932657/wework-blind-survey-layoffs-exit-package-adam-neumann-softbank  eh

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[28-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Patachu#0542
also I wonder why people who support LGBT pride are so opposed to the straight pride.


[28-Oct-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
straight people never had to fight for their rights


[28-Oct-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
non-straight people virtually always have


[28-Oct-19 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
we're not taking your rights away and we find the suggestion that we are fairly offensive, whether or not that's what you meant


[28-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Patachu#0542
so is straigtht pride a hate group?


[28-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm trying to get your logic, or the one you cite.


[28-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Patachu#0542
Because it's not yours, you are told they never had to fight for their right so they are not allowed to make a peaceful demo


[28-Oct-19 08:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think they would *love* to be called one. It's reactionary attention-seeking behavior that attracts a sort of WBC mindset


[28-Oct-19 08:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
referring, ofc, to the group that recently tried to stage that "straight pride parade" specifically


[28-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Patachu#0542
Normally, that's also free speech. Disregard of your orientation and all, are we for classes or for equality?


[28-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Straight parade sexualizes genders /s


[28-Oct-19 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
straight pride is not in itself a hate movement but I suspect the people who participate in such movements are actually quite hateful individuals


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
as that seems to have repeatedly been the case


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what I was trying to get at, yes


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
every single time it's happened


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Patachu#0542
You suspect. But this is not a fact. You have to link the movement to hateful ambitions. Like preventing gays to parade along them by example.


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
No I don't


[28-Oct-19 08:18 PM] Patachu#0542
Or having homophobic slogans?


[28-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Patachu#0542
Na. Those are straight people, walking, on a street.


[28-Oct-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
It's enough to show that without misrepresenting the group that they are broadly people who disagree with the expression of nontraditional sexuality


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't have to show anything about the broad object of the movement to show that it has subversive intentions


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't see what the problem is with a straight pride parade. aren't we told to be proud of who we are and what we do?


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then why not allow someone to throw a celebration for it


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Patachu#0542
so what? People have no longer the right to disagree?


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Where did that come from


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Your argument makes no sense


[28-Oct-19 08:20 PM] Patachu#0542
>they are broadly people who disagree with the expression of nontraditional sexuality


[28-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Patachu#0542
>I don't have to show anything about the broad object of the movement to show that it has subversive intentions


[28-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Patachu#0542
You are biased. I'm trying to make you see that thing differently.


[28-Oct-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Of course they have the right to disagree; that's where we get into the weeds


[28-Oct-19 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
those who disagree strongly overlap with those who hate


[28-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Patachu#0542
So because they are more they have no rights?


[28-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Patachu#0542
or less rights?


[28-Oct-19 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the overt intention of straight pride is as a celebration of being straight


[28-Oct-19 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
due to the strong overlap of the movement with hate groups it has a covert intention of being a "fuck-you" to LGBT pride


[28-Oct-19 08:23 PM] Patachu#0542
Of course, everyone has the right to be proud of what they are, aren't they?


[28-Oct-19 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Have I ever disagreed with you about that


[28-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Patachu#0542
Nah but you seem to go with implications that some people don't need to be proud of what they are. Our parents all are proud to have us, that's the thing, let's not focusing on "who is oppressed " "are they dangerous" "I believe they are" because it's doing exactly the same work extremists does to search a target. Far-left like far-right.


[28-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Patachu#0542
"There could be pedophiles sneaking in the LGBT pride, let's ban it"


[28-Oct-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't imply that people aren't allowed to be proud or aren't allowed to express their opinions


[28-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I am liberal to a fault in that respect


[28-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then why be opposed to a celebration


[28-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
If it were just a celebration, I'd not have any qualms with it


[28-Oct-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Unfortunately for that line of reasoning it never has been a celebration


[28-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because if a straight pride parade by your argument is oppressive to gay people. couldn't I make the argument about gay pride parades being oppressive to straight people.


[28-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Patachu#0542
Every celebration comes  with a bunch of party poopers, you cannot avoid that. May it be the hellfest with a bunch of drunk skinheads, the straight pride with people brandishing a homophobic slogan/sign, or a group of nambla promoting their shit in the gay pride.


[28-Oct-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll tackle these one at a time


[28-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if i recall a company in silicon valley made it mandatory for their staff to attend the pride rally even if they didn't want to attend.


[28-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and those that didn't go got reprimanded


[28-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
by their peers


[28-Oct-19 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The problem with most straight pride parades is they are usually scheduled to overlap, and counter an lgbt parade for the purpose of causing anger. They're almost never a straight up celebration of being straight


[28-Oct-19 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sunnyside I've never said it's oppressive; I've said it's insulting. Straight people have never had to fight for their rights, and when we see straight pride parades we're not irritated because you're stealing the spotlight, we're irritated because the group organizers are 99 times out of 100 deeply homophobic, and so are the followers.

 @Patachu And if the party is all poopers, then what?


[28-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Patachu#0542
ah there's a huge thing between "insulting" and "oppressive" at this point anyone can say "the X pride is insulting me because I'm Y!


[28-Oct-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I have explained why it's insulting


[28-Oct-19 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I am not going to further elaborate, that's more than good enough


[28-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Patachu#0542
Everythiung can be insulting to anyone, do we need to kneel before everybody who cries?


[28-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you argue that straight people never had to fight for their rights. They have in different ways though. The right to marry who they want to depsite race or religious creed or class of wealth.


[28-Oct-19 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not relevant


[28-Oct-19 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
You're doing an equivocation


[28-Oct-19 08:32 PM] Patachu#0542
@Sunnyside yeah there's that too. Funding a family is a nightmare for anyone today.


[28-Oct-19 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
interaccial couples didnt have to fight because thye were straight, they had to fight because racists told thme no


[28-Oct-19 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s an entirely different fight


[28-Oct-19 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
This is a logical fallacy where you argue multiple meanings of the same logical object


[28-Oct-19 08:34 PM] Patachu#0542
still they had to fight for their right, and that's just as important as the right for homos to be in couple.


[28-Oct-19 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
When I say straight people have never had to fight for their rights, I mean that there is no social impetus that would intervene against heterosexual couples, whereas nontraditional couples could face serious consequences like... death.


[28-Oct-19 08:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it is still in regards of marriage


[28-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what about the freedom for the person to decide for themselves to marry without it being prearranged.


[28-Oct-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Not relevant


[28-Oct-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Can we go back to this argument


[28-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's still a right that had to be gained


[28-Oct-19 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Sure but it's not relevant


[28-Oct-19 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
The argument is about why we don't like "straight pride" groups


[28-Oct-19 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
If it were just about pride we wouldn't have a problem with it


[28-Oct-19 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
But it clearly isn't: they've been quarreling with LGBT pride movements for a long time now and the group organizers and participants are known to be much more hateful towards non-straight people than the general population


[28-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Patachu#0542
if you have proofs that this movement was made of people aggreessive and all then okay


[28-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Patachu#0542
but otherwise it's just your opinion, you are right to have one.


[28-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its relevant in the sense that you argued that straight people never had to fight for rights.


[28-Oct-19 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
You equovicated what I meant


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I suspect you still don't know what that fallacy is


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Please go look it up


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
>I like how Russia deals with it.


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
okay


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
I am not reading all of this


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
but just this one message


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
that I accidentally noticed


[28-Oct-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
tells me to not really take a lot waht you say seriously @Patachu


[28-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Patachu#0542
well it might be a bit extreme but their methods are disuasive. https://metro.co.uk/2016/02/16/drug-dealer-whipped-with-cable-ties-and-beaten-to-death-5685325/


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Why is it good to harm people


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Patachu#0542
What are the drug dealers and all this mafia doing?


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
(also, why is it good to dissuade drug use)


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
And how was I suppose to take what you meant?


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Patachu#0542
Getting kids toxico, poor people falling for Krokodil and all that


[28-Oct-19 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what?


[28-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I explained already @Sunnyside


[28-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
> When I say straight people have never had to fight for their rights, I mean that there is no social impetus that would intervene against heterosexual couples, other circumstances notwithstanding, whereas nontraditional couples could face serious consequences like... death.


[28-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
look some drugs are very addictive and damaging to people


[28-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Alcohol is very addictive and damaging


[28-Oct-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
We should ban alcohol


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Patachu#0542
essentially this. psychosis, societal, crime increase, illnesses,


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Clearly that worked out great before!


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Patachu#0542
alcohool is nothing in comparison to like, meth, crack, coke and all that shit.


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Question


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Have you ever done meth?


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Have you snorted cocaine?


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Patachu#0542
I have seen enough people who are toxico falling to becoming complete zombies to assure you that drugs are shit,


[28-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
No. But you don't have to be a user to be aware of what it does to people


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I've seen enough drunks walking along my driveway to assure you that alcohol is terrible for you


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Patachu#0542
do I need to taste shit to affirm, with my culinary senses that it's indeed, bad ?


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
And it's much worse in fact than what methamphetamine does


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
_much_ worse


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
where do you live? by a bar?


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah me too sometimes after a party I go back home drunk, but that's not like I need to get drunk all the time.


[28-Oct-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
In a college dorm


[28-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Patachu#0542
When you get your diploma or do something, I hope at least you celebrate it with a good crémant or a good wine. Not some booze.


[28-Oct-19 08:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well I'm no fan of booze either.


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I feel like you have such a crazy strawman of how "hard" drugs work that you may not have considered how dangerous alcohol is compared to all of them


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not downplaying how bad booze is.


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Stimulants can't even hold a candle to GABAergens


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
And with that I am off to take an exam


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but i'm wondering why you are downplaying drug abuse


[28-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Patachu#0542
Yes you get drunk when you do something like that but does not means that will be a risk, you are among friends, and you will not have any sequel, at worse, be a  bit ( how to say that in english ) weird the next morning.


[28-Oct-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Because drug abuse is biopsychosocial and unrelated to drug dealing, which I disapprove of


[28-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they have to get the drugs from somewhere byte


[28-Oct-19 08:48 PM] Patachu#0542
but drugs are real shit, they bring nothing but making people feel better for a small time, people who already have nothing and are ready to do anyting for a trip again, and again. ..


[28-Oct-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Buy them from the pharmacy then


[28-Oct-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
A reliable pure source that doesn't contribute to crime


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah because they sell meth on the shelf


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
They should


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but why


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a fantastic nasal decongestant


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
(this was its main medical use)


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its a crystal rock


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] Patachu#0542
on this, if even people were allowed to plant and cultivate their own marijuana, for personal consumption at least yes. That's a drug I would legalize, not the business.


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a powder if you grind it


[28-Oct-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
you can put all sorts of powders into pill capsules


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of hard drugs had a medical use before the war on drugs happened


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but we have other decongestants that don't have addictive side effects though


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't work as well


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
there's no need to reinstate meth


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
methamphetamine is much better than all of them


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
and the ones we do have are close analogues of it


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they don't scramble your brain though.


[28-Oct-19 08:50 PM] Patachu#0542
pharmacies already sell a lot of legal drugs that are not better than the local dealer's shit to be honest. People also taking "meds" or psychotropes are just the same as drug addicts. Xanax, propofol, etc..


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
dextromethorphan scrambles my brain


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
so does allergy medicine and caffeine


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nicotine is completely legal, and that shit wrecks your shit


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what your point is


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't really get your point either.


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
are you saying we should legalize all the drugs


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Absolutely


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[28-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no matter the consequince


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
to society and people


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
legalize drugs, and open rehabilitation centers for those that want out


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Patachu#0542
nah I'm a bit worried. well I'm not all innocent, I still try to limit myself smoking and never want to touch any antidepressants ( besides pone )  and enjoy drinking from times to times.


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that sounds very much like the bad old days of the 1880s and 90s


[28-Oct-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
This has proven to be particularly effective in societies that have tried it


[28-Oct-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when did the 1880's try this?


[28-Oct-19 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
The 1880s and 90s did not have reliable chemical purification methods like we do in 2019


[28-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Patachu#0542
but seriously man; watch out for these, you're far from being dumb, don't let that ruin you.


[28-Oct-19 08:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
cocaine was common along with opium


[28-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
along with various other drugs of various amounts


[28-Oct-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
people died easily from "patent mixtures" which were serious overdoses of all sorts of drugs mixed together


[28-Oct-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
those aren't allowed anymore


[28-Oct-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
opium is common now, we have entire pharma companies ppeddling it and the treatment for addiction at the same time


[28-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
after portugal completely decriminalized all drugs and started shifting their culture from hating drug abusers to pitying them on top of liberally funding programs to rehabilitate drug abusers, drug usage plummeted


[28-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah opiates, "want a painkiller? there, take this! feeling low? have some more! stressed? low? benzo!"


[28-Oct-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
drugs aren't the problem, how society reacts to them is the problem


[28-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Patachu#0542
it's like people are now used to bury down their emotions in chemicals


[28-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Patachu#0542
it's absolutely horrendous


[28-Oct-19 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem with the opioid epidemic is they push lethal doses to keep people hooked on it to keep thme coming back for more


[28-Oct-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one reason teernagers tend to get hooked on drugs is because most of thme are illegal, and they;re told not to do them which makes them more alluring as a rebellious activity


[28-Oct-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why vapes are super popular, it;s a way to stick it to the no smoking authorities


[28-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
humans get addicted to drugs when they're isolated from other humans


[28-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah. feeling bad > psy > drugs > psy > more drugs >psy > even more meds! > crazy house > drugs  > psy > drugs > drugs


[28-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah that's also a huge factor.


[28-Oct-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people turn to drugs as a form of escape because their lives are super fucked up and thye can;t find any help for themselves


[28-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
basically, when humans are unable to fulfill the basic requirements of their psychology, it makes them incredibly vulnerable to drug abuse


[28-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Patachu#0542
feeling rejected by all, feeling like a shit, take a snort of coke , it's fixed! I worked with a guy who took coke last year


[28-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Patachu#0542
graphic design / 3dcg stuff.


[28-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Patachu#0542
well the only thing that keeps him a bit of self esteem is snorting since the morning.


[28-Oct-19 09:03 PM] Patachu#0542
sometimes he wasn't always "here", floating, not knowing what to do but good in his job.


[28-Oct-19 09:04 PM] Patachu#0542
dunno what was his past, so I can't tell how or what forced him to go down like that, never really took the time to talk about it, but he did.


[28-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Patachu#0542
so yeah it's essentially vulnerable people, destroyed by society or with a shitty childhood who end up like this.


[28-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Patachu#0542
the idea of distributing it and adding rehab is like


[28-Oct-19 09:05 PM] Patachu#0542
cloning machine > meat shredder


[28-Oct-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not like throwing it at people with a t-shirt cannon, the idea is to distribute it through proper medical pharmacies who can perscribe proper doses, and measurements, while also giving people a way out if thye want to quit the drug.


[28-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Patachu#0542
and the hippies also who keep saying "weed can cure cancer" "smoke weed everyday" "weed should be a religion" are just taking it too far.


[28-Oct-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weed doesnt cure cancer but it can slow down it;s effects and give aid in treating it


[28-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
you seem to misunderstand what I said by drug abuser


[28-Oct-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
you can take drugs and not be abusing them


[28-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
taking drugs is even a social pastime for humans


[28-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah just like anyone can smoke weed, cigs or drink without being addicted, but enjoying it from times to times.


[28-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
opium isn't a new thing


[28-Oct-19 09:09 PM] Patachu#0542
indeed. but that's ...a method of control.


[28-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
... if it's a method of control, why is it illegal?


[28-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Patachu#0542
because you can arrest them


[28-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
drug usage is higher in countries in which drugs are criminalized


[28-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Patachu#0542
if they really wanted to end drug use, they could


[28-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
decriminalizing drugs leads to lower drug usage


[28-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Patachu#0542
i demand to see the proof of this affirmation, still,


[28-Oct-19 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem with drug abuse, is that addicted people can;t seek help or else thye get arrested


[28-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Patachu#0542
...okay I demand to see, let's legalize everything and see what happens.


[28-Oct-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of drug addicts would love to find help in quitting, but they can't because then they get put on a police watchlist or thrown in a prison for possession


[28-Oct-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a bigger problem is because illegal drugs are a thing, legalmedication gets put on ban/watchlists because they are used as ingredients for those illegal drugs


[28-Oct-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like cough medication for meth


[28-Oct-19 09:14 PM] Patachu#0542
yep, that's why that control works.


[28-Oct-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except it doesnt, people are going to find meth supplies even if it;s the msot dangerous way possible. It;s better to have a safe way to obtaint he drug, than a bullet ridden back alley with shady dealers


[28-Oct-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the legal medication id laws also prevent young people who need the medication from buying it for their ailments


[28-Oct-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cough syrup shouldn;t require you to be 18+


[28-Oct-19 09:20 PM] KolpSlack#8278
I drank cough syrup, but not for a cough.


[28-Oct-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:  it still shouldnt be an 18+ ID thing


[28-Oct-19 09:22 PM] KolpSlack#8278
I mean, they have children's cough syrup, so yeah it's OTC, shouldn't need one for that unless it's prescribed to you.


[28-Oct-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nicotine would have likely been banned in the war on drugs as well if it werent for the fact that most politicians have a massive addiction to the stuff and it's a massive profit market


[28-Oct-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the closest they could get was to put cancer warning labels on tobacco products


[28-Oct-19 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/politics/house-impeachment-procedure-vote/index.html

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House to vote on impeachment inquiry procedures
The House will vote this week on affirming the Democrats' impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump and Ukraine, as Democrats move forward with a formal vote after initially resisting.
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[28-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
it's here


[28-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
the conservatives were screaming that it was never gonna happen


[28-Oct-19 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
now they're gonna be screaming about it happening


[28-Oct-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
As I said, drug addiction is biopsychosocial


[28-Oct-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
You _need_ to provide support for people who _do_ turn to drugs and the answer isn't to just ban them outright


[28-Oct-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
That clearly isn't working


[28-Oct-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
It just inflates prison populations


[28-Oct-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
> ...okay I demand to see, let's legalize everything and see what happens.


[28-Oct-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
There has been a rat study that strongly suggests the social component is the most important


[28-Oct-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
And multiple actual large scale human studies in Portugal, in Scandinavia, in Canada, etc.


[28-Oct-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
They all worked out fantastically well for the participants, who were addicts


[28-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and what of nonaddicts?


[28-Oct-19 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
They continued not to be addicted


[28-Oct-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Some of then tried and experimented with "hard" drugs; virtually none became addicted


[28-Oct-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a misconception that hard drugs cause instant addiction or tolerance


[28-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
See above: addiction is biopsychosocial


[28-Oct-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Dependence is neurological and neurological tolerance takes weeks to months of continuous exposure


[28-Oct-19 10:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Drugs are a commodity which means they also react to the same market forces as literally every other commodity. You can have them accessible but un-advertised like cigarettes for declining rates of use. The laxing of enforcement would also drop a large part of why the drug trade is lucrative in the first place: because it raises initial expenses and may in part inspire the dealers to push more to make up for those expenses.


[28-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if you could buy heroin over the counter


[28-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what it would do


[28-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean at the start ODs would skyrocket


[28-Oct-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But maybe it would even out?


[28-Oct-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't skyrocket


[28-Oct-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
ODs happen because of unknown concentration


[28-Oct-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Most dangerously, heroin cut with fentanyl


[28-Oct-19 10:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
To a point that's what European colonial adventures were doing in South Asia and the western Pacific. Although the administrations of Colonial France, England, Netherlands, or Spain were to control opium dependency but to use opium addiction to balance their books; since surprise: Vietnam didn't have a lot of economic value to France but they were there and they needed to balance the books to make good on financial investments to bankers in Paris. Operations like this would have to be geared towards transferring people to withdrawal drugs for a controlled state before weening them off and cleaning them up, since otherwise just weening people off on the legal state-monopoly like the French tried in Vietnam in the fifties would just transfer hundreds of thousands of addicts back into the illcite market; which is ironically what the French SDECE did during the first Indochina war, they picked up everything the state monopoly was shedding to fund their own adventurism


[28-Oct-19 10:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's worth pointing out that the colonial monopolies were never a public-health policy but a financial one. They were incentivized to generate as much profit as possible in order to fund other areas of the colonial adventure. As a public health measure the logic of the program can be reoriented to serve the stated purpose of reducing addiction, and not just handing out smaller and smaller amounts of narcotic to addicts, but transitioning them to a less pure and more medical control drug to eventually eliminate the habit, while the program is established to match the demand and not be a source of funds in and of itself.


[28-Oct-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
The other sin of the colonial project was that because it was a profit seeking initiative they kept ripping off the Hmong farmers they sourced their opium from to the point they got fucking pissed and schismed the community down the middle or alienating entire populations in the search for cheaper opium while attempting to police out of existence the better paying illicit market so the Hmong never really had the resources to transition out of opium production, until the PRC took over all of China and managed to transition the Hmong who still lived in Yunnan out of poppies, or the Viet Minh in Vietnam.


[28-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"We won’t be able to comment fully until we see the actual text, but Speaker Pelosi is finally admitting what the rest of America already knew — that Democrats were conducting an unauthorized impeachment proceeding, refusing to give the President due process, and their secret, shady, closed door depositions are completely and irreversibly illegitimate."- WH Press Secretary


[28-Oct-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Those are the rules the republicans used when they wanted to investigate buttery males


[28-Oct-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/doj-says-itll-be-irreparably-harmed-if-congress-gets-its-hands-on-muellers-secret-grand-jury-materials/

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DOJ Says It’ll Be ‘Irreparably Harmed’ if Congress Gets Its ...
The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Monday filed a motion to appeal a recent federal court ruling that ordered the agency to provide impeachment investigators in the U.S. House of Representatives with grand jury materials underlying former special counsel Robert Mueller's repo...
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[28-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting


[28-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What Pelosi is doing is unnecessary btw


[28-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP: "DO THING"
Dems: "OK WE'LL DO THING"


[28-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP: "NO"


[28-Oct-19 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/president-trump-accidentally-refers-to-ukraines-president-as-the-new-russian-president/

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Trump Accidentally Refers to Ukraine’s President as the ‘New R...
President Donald Trump accidentally called Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky “the new Russian president" while answering questions on Monday morning, according to a transcript of the remarks released by the White House.
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[28-Oct-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Democratic-Republican Hetmanate of Ukraine-Russia when?

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[28-Oct-19 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Putin disliked that.*


[28-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
absolutely, I'm down with that.


[28-Oct-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
This guy is such an obnoxious clown


[28-Oct-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-says-chicago-is-an-embarrassment-to-the-nation/2019/10/28/150bdf1e-ed44-472b-846f-674df27ea27f_video.html


[28-Oct-19 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Thinly veiled racism


[28-Oct-19 11:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well I mean have you *seen* what they call pizza there


[29-Oct-19 01:22 AM] Patachu#0542
I don't see how this is racist. There's even a friend who called Baltimore "Baghdad" ...does that makes him a racist person?
I planned to visit Chicago next year, but I don't think I should be.
Checking a friend who lives in Grand Rapids and eventually invite him to TrotCon, that'd be fun.


[29-Oct-19 01:27 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/10/25/ingushetia-petersburg/

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Petersburgers Picket in Support of Ingush Political Prisoners
“We are with Ingushetia for rights and against the lawlessness of the authorities! Crackdowns won’t stop us.” “Putin Has Not Retreated, But Nor Have the People”: Peter…
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[29-Oct-19 01:27 AM] ononim#8141
```In Petersburg, a series of solo pickets was held in support of Ingush activists, who were jailed after rallies protest the redrawing Ingushetia’s border with Chechnya. The picketers consider the situation in the republic critical, dubbing the arrests in the wake of the protest rallies the “Ingush Bolotnya Square case.”

The protests in Ingushetia kicked off in the autumn of 2018 after Yunus-Bek Yevkurov, then-head of Ingushetia, and Ramzan Kadyrov, head of Chechnya, signed an agreement ceding large parts of Ingushetia to Chechnya, including land on which Ingush ancestral towers are located. Outraged by this secret deal, the Ingush populace launched a series of well-attended protest rallies in Magas, the Ingush capital.  Activists and elders argued the decision was illegal and appealed to Vladimir Putin. The matter made it to the Russian Constitutional Court, which sided with Kadyrov and Yevkurov. The protests in the Ingush capital continued, eventually leading the authorities to arrest and charge activists.```


[29-Oct-19 01:27 AM] ononim#8141
```Currently, over thirty people who opposed the redrawing of the Ingush-Chechen border have been jailed in remand prisons in different parts of the North Caucasus. They have been charged with calling for riots (as punishable by Article 212.3 of the Russian Federal Criminal Code) and engaging in life- and health-threatening violence against law enforcement officers (punishable under Article 318.2 of the Russian Federal Criminal Code). At the same time, a hundred people have been convicted on administrative charges. Many of the jailed activists have complained of poor conditions in prison and torture at the hands of the authorities. According to other activists and relatives of those who have been jailed, many of them have not been allowed to see their lawyers, while hearings in their cases have been held without them.```


[29-Oct-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/trump-isis-raid-baghdadi-059333

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How Trump gabbed too much about the ISIS raid
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[29-Oct-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is now talking about it too much tot he point of endangering soldiers


[29-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Nagata stressed that Trump is not alone in the practice. He cited the 2011 raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, which was recounted in significant detail at the time by Obama administration officials.


[29-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"HEY REMEMBER OBAMA DID IT TOO GUYS"


[29-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🙄


[29-Oct-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the difference is that obama didnt release classified secrets with his fucking bragging


[29-Oct-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it's okay to criticize obama's policies, but you have to realize he's not in office anymore


[29-Oct-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
just because he did something doesn't make it okay by default


[29-Oct-19 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
nor is it necessarily relevant


[29-Oct-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this


[29-Oct-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see this bullshit way too often about how a former politician did something, therefore it totally applies to current politicians


[29-Oct-19 02:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump:Bag daddy died whimpering like a dog. Operation went better than Obamas Osama operation.
Army: He blew himself up.


[29-Oct-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump: Now let me list off the soldiers responsible for this while thanking russia and thanking the kurds while still abandoning the crap out of them!


[29-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-white-house-official-to-reportedly-testify-he-was-so-alarmed-by-trump-call-he-reported-it-to-a-superior/

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Alex Vindman to Testify on Trump Ukraine Call Concerns
On Tuesday, House impeachment investigators will be hearing from Alexander Vindman, a top Ukraine expert on the White House National Security Council. And his opening statement appears to indicate he
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[29-Oct-19 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So this is someone with first hand knowledge being concerned


[29-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I have a feeling you'll always find something at fault with trump even when its good news like with the death of the isis leader. 🙄


[29-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
bsabsvr


[29-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/london-is-still-paying-rent-to-the-queen-on-a-property-leased-in-1211

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London Is Still Paying Rent to the Queen on a Property Leased in 1211
In a small annual ceremony the city hands over an axe, a knife, 6 horseshoes, and 61 nails.
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[29-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider the fact that there's an ongoing annual rent that has not changed since 1211, vs. it being not entirely unheard of for rent for a common person to triple in a year.


[29-Oct-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Sunnyside I think the death of the ISIS leader is great. I don't like how you assume I wouldn't do this for any president.


[29-Oct-19 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have major issues with the abuses of power/power grabs by the Executive branch in general, I would absolutely demand Hillary's impeachment and removal if she did the stuff Trump did


[29-Oct-19 04:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
sorry. @Itsthinking  I wasn't aiming it specifically at you, but this channel in general.
also it was more in response to Intexda  byte and Marukomuru were saying above


[29-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think more dead terrorists helps nobody in the long run.


[29-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you make another guy ISIS' leader. And then what?


[29-Oct-19 04:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the post Osama world the death of a terrorist leader doesn't seem as big of a deal since they just keep existing. It keeps going and doesn't fundamentally change much of anything in the long run. It's just immediate catharsis.


[29-Oct-19 04:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
So, OK, cool. Bahgdadi is dead. But what now? Someone's probably moving in to fill the void.


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or someone else already did


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the more you value it, the more you incentivize the creation of more leaders to kill.


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is why we could get him anyways. Daesh as a organization ran out of options


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And every death of every person has a cost to society.


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should kill people when the benefits outweight the cost.


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no benefit here except minor disruption to IS


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a pretty hefty cost, of one life.


[29-Oct-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, it's possible his family are now more incentivized to join IS to avenge him.


[29-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which adds further cost.


[29-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't value dead terrorists.


[29-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The goal of a war should be win, with as few deaths to both sides as possible.


[29-Oct-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, if hillary was doing even a quarter of the shit trump has done, we'd be calling for her impeachment too


[29-Oct-19 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny when republicans laugh at democrats for being so "divided" when they prosecute one of their own for doing shitty things, then get mad when democrats do the same to republicans


[29-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Butt hurr emails


[29-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Multiple people in the Trump cabinet run their own private email servers for official business**


[29-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans *do not care one iota about it.*


[29-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Hillary doing it was the worst possible thing.


[29-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The amount of bias is insane.


[29-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw I regularly criticized Obama


[29-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
for things I don't even bother talking about with Trump


[29-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I held him to *higher* scrutiny because he was so clean.


[29-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was almost nothing to talk about except dragnet surveillance, the increasing power of the executive, and drone strikes etc. (the same thing I just talked about now with the killing of the IS leader)


[29-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is so fukking ridiculously criminal and evil about almost everything that I often can't even get to those


[29-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
because there's way worse shit happening every day


[29-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it really is the strategy to just dump so many evil things on people that nobody even remembers half of them.


[29-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was seen as scummy because he didn't throw Clapper under the bus for lying to congress for him.


[29-Oct-19 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has people lie to congress for him every week.


[29-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457

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[29-Oct-19 06:01 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2019/10/28/class-bias-interviewers-will-hire-and-pay-more-for-a-job-applicant-from-a-higher-social-class-compared-to-a-lower-status-candidate/

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Class Bias: Interviewers Will Hire And Pay More For A Job Applican...
People who interview for jobs are judged based upon their social status seconds after they start to speak.
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[29-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Treascair#7785
From the 'no shit, Sherlock' files...


[29-Oct-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is important to research the obvious, in case it is not really there, and to provide a firmer base for discussing and fixing problems it causes.


[29-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
I sent that thing about how rats being taught how to drive enjoy it and how driving helps them calm down, she said it was a massive waste of money because there's no profit to be made from driving rats (she didn't mention the profit part, but it was heavily implied)


[29-Oct-19 06:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow new youtube series potential though


[29-Oct-19 06:10 AM] jlun2#8758
rat racer


[29-Oct-19 06:21 AM] Crow#5457

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[29-Oct-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I actually had someone try to explain to me that Obama doubled our debt


[29-Oct-19 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, they didn't try to explain. They just said it and expected it to be taken without question


[29-Oct-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, I question this meme's implication that Republicans are racist against Bill Clinton


[29-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if anyone ever got hillary's opinion on the whole affair thing


[29-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that she couldn't have given less of a shit


[29-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
I just wonder how long it'll be until we have a polyamorous president


[29-Oct-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
I mean officially polyamorous


[29-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
we've had a few presidents who had a revolving door of women coming to visit them in the white house


[29-Oct-19 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think that's a position the church of latter-day saints holds anymore, actually, otherwise I'd say look to Utah


[29-Oct-19 06:39 AM] Treascair#7785
knowing actual Mormons in SLC... It's a lot like the Korea/China/Japan hate the three have for each other.  Mormons and polyarmory being okay is the 'old guard' mentalities trying to maintain a foothold.


[29-Oct-19 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
@Treascair I just assume old metalities last forever until I die


[29-Oct-19 11:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://static.politico.com/69/13/cdffb8a4420a8a4d8a65439570f2/vindman-statement-final.pdf


[29-Oct-19 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/99472ae59b26460088af7599308546d5

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Activist barred from election as Hong Kong nears recession
HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong authorities barred pro-democracy activist Joshua Wong from an election as the city's leader warned Tuesday that months of violent protests have pushed the city to the...
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[29-Oct-19 01:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
why is a fucking dog getting so much praise


[29-Oct-19 01:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
It was a human that did it not a dog


[29-Oct-19 01:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260549166776852480

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260549166776852480
Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden. #debate
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[29-Oct-19 01:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/260490972465598464

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Why don't we ask the Navy SEALs who killed Bin Laden? They don't seem to be happy with Obama claiming credit. All he did is say O.K.
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[29-Oct-19 01:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
says the guys who giving credit to a dog


[29-Oct-19 01:24 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[29-Oct-19 01:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Stop congratulating Navy SEALs for killing Bin Laden, a bullet killed Bin Laden... thank California Powder Works Ammunition manufacturing.


[29-Oct-19 01:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Actually kinetic energy of that bullet killed Bin Laden...thank whoever discovered what kinetic energy exists


[29-Oct-19 01:33 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/28/former-boston-college-student-charged-suicide-death-boyfriend/2484454001/ this is disgusting

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Former Boston College student charged in suicide death of boyfrien...
A former Boston College student was charged in connection with the suicide death of her boyfriend, drawing comparisons to the Michelle Carter case.
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[29-Oct-19 01:41 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also trump was booed at a baseball game he went to


[29-Oct-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes with chants of lock him up


[29-Oct-19 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's footage of him with no audio going "jesus fucking christ" in response


[29-Oct-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I love that they tried to pull a fast one by bookending his appearance with veteran support footage to try and trick people into cheering for him, only to fail hard


[29-Oct-19 02:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2019/10/26/texas-is-afraid-of-a-7-year-old-transgender-girl/

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Texas Is Afraid Of A 7-Year-Old Transgender Girl
Republicans see the custody case over a trans girl as a Red Bull for far right conservative backers ahead of elections.
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[29-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Patachu#0542
"seven years old transgender" I also find this more than worrying


[29-Oct-19 02:22 PM] Patachu#0542
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse
Child abuse
Child abuse or child maltreatment is physical, sexual, and/or psychological maltreatment or neglect of a child or children, especially by a parent or a caregiver. Child abuse may include any act or failure to act by a parent or a caregiver that results in actual or potential ...
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[29-Oct-19 02:24 PM] Patachu#0542
can't read the article, they want me to disable adblock. also, >forbes.


[29-Oct-19 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>What did 7-year-old Luna Younger of Dallas do that has mobilized conservatives and Christian fundamentalists across Texas into action? She declared, at age 3, “I’m a girl.”

Her father, however, insists she’s a boy, despite a diagnosis of gender dysphoria by three medical experts. Jeffrey Younger feels so strongly about this that he launched an online campaign to stop their child’s gender transition. That campaign has been seized upon as a cause célèbre by Texas Republicans from Austin to Washington, D.C.

Luna was given the name “James” at birth in 2012, and, like her twin brother, presumed to be male, until 2016. That’s when a court annulled her parents’ marriage on the basis of fraud.


[29-Oct-19 02:26 PM] Patachu#0542
this is biased to side with the view of the mother. let's see what the judge's decision will be.


[29-Oct-19 02:27 PM] Patachu#0542
you cannot pick a gender like this "he's playing with pony toys, she must be a girl!" this is basic psychology. Without a father present due to a divorce and a zealous mother with ideas on how to shape the personity of her child, that kind of thing happens.


[29-Oct-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where did it mention the mother in that?


[29-Oct-19 02:29 PM] Patachu#0542
It's like parents who tells their kids "don't listen to science class, they will lie about you and pretend the earth is spherical and orbits the sun, just look outside, earth is clearly flat!"


[29-Oct-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that did not answer my question but ok


[29-Oct-19 02:29 PM] Patachu#0542
nah, you did not, I'm just saying don't make your opinion based only on a source of information.


[29-Oct-19 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://fox6now.com/2019/10/28/custody-battle-between-parents-who-disagree-on-gender-of-7-year-old-draws-attention-of-texas-politicians/ here;s a public news site

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Custody battle between parents who disagree on gender of 7-year-ol...
DALLAS -- A Dallas judge ruled that both parents should have joint custody of a 7-year-old whose gender identity became central to their court battle, which drew attention from politicians across Texas.

The judge's order came just days after a jury rendered a verdict giving ...
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[29-Oct-19 02:32 PM] Patachu#0542
https://videos.whatfinger.com/2019/10/25/7yo-trans-boy-james-admits-mother-told-him-he-was-a-girl/

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https://videos.whatfinger.com/2019/10/25/7yo-trans-boy-james-admits-mother-told-him-he-was-a-girl/
7yo Trans Boy James Admits Mother TOLD Him He Was A Girl - Whatfin...
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[29-Oct-19 02:32 PM] Patachu#0542
if you decided to also search more information let's do that work.


[29-Oct-19 02:33 PM] Patachu#0542

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[29-Oct-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[29-Oct-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kmov.com/news/texas-parents-in-custody-battle-disagree-on-gender-of-their/article_def63fe6-f9b0-11e9-96ba-97f764c56cf6.html

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Texas parents in custody battle disagree on gender of their child
(CNN) -- A Dallas judge has ruled that both parents should have joint custody of a 7-year-old whose gender identity became central to their court battle, which drew attention from
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[29-Oct-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i;m not trusting anything OAN says


[29-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Patachu#0542
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[29-Oct-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is your region?


[29-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Patachu#0542
https://www.valeursactuelles.com/monde/au-texas-des-parents-se-dechirent-pour-savoir-si-leur-fils-transgenre-de-7-ans-peut-subir-une-castration-chimique-112207

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Au Texas, des parents se déchirent pour savoir si leur fils trans...
À sept ans seulement, un jeune américain pourrait voir sa vie basculer. Alors que sa mère affirme que le garçonnet de sept ans se perçoit comme une fillette nommée Luna, elle souhaite lui faire suivre un traitement empêchant la puberté. Le père de l'enfant, lui, évo...
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[29-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Patachu#0542
france


[29-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Patachu#0542
but there's articles in the press here


[29-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Patachu#0542
better to have a neutral source, that's what we call "Zététique" here


[29-Oct-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes that's why i went for local news stations instead of big political ones


[29-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Patachu#0542
examine the facts, take away the political bias or motivation of each info.


[29-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Patachu#0542
and more important, compare the arguments of BOTH parties.


[29-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Patachu#0542
are they founded? is there a goal? is there a scientific explanation to a phenomenon?


[29-Oct-19 02:39 PM] Patachu#0542
may you get right or left, fact checkers and people who think critically get a lot of shit from the trans community regarding the whole "gender identity".


[29-Oct-19 02:39 PM] Patachu#0542
https://www.rt.com/usa/445172-transgender-child-mom-court/

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A girl at mom’s, a boy at dad’s: ‘Transgender’ Texas child...
In Texas, a six-year-old boy is being torn apart by the transgender debate. James’ mother thinks he’s a girl, but he acts like a normal boy at his father’s house. Now she’s accusing him of child abuse. Welcome to 2018.
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[29-Oct-19 02:40 PM] Patachu#0542
«When he’s with his mother, Anne Georgulas, James lives as a girl called Luna. Since he expressed an interest in wearing girls’ clothes, Georgulas a pediatrician, began referring to him exclusively as ‘her,’ enrolled him in school under his female name, encouraged him to cross-dress, and took him to a sympathetic “rainbow counsellor” who lists working with transgender children as one of her specialities."»


[29-Oct-19 02:41 PM] Patachu#0542
This isn't the first time something like this makes the news here. If you force a kid to believe he's the opposite gender, it is considered child abuse here. Backed up with actual psychologists. not a sympathetic rainbow counsellor.


[29-Oct-19 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is a rainbow counceller


[29-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Patachu#0542
I don't know, certainly someone in the US who supports transsexualism


[29-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Patachu#0542
where are you from?


[29-Oct-19 02:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.keepandshare.com/doc30/109400/luna-younger-court-transcript-pdf-717k

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Luna Younger court transcript.pdf  -- 717k
a Keep&Share shared Document
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[29-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Patachu#0542
whew


[29-Oct-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america, and i;ve never heard of this


[29-Oct-19 02:44 PM] ononim#8141
@Patachu transcript of the girls saying in interview without her mother or father what her mother indeed odesn't force her to dress like a girl


[29-Oct-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://dallasrainbowcounseling.com/ ok so this is a rainbow counciler

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LGBT Counseling in Dallas TX | Dallas Rainbow Counseling
LGBT therapy in Dallas where you can feel comfortable just being yourself. I offer counseling services for individuals, couples, families and youth.


[29-Oct-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are therapists who deal in lgbt matters probably since a lot of places refuse to touch this kind of thing


[29-Oct-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in texas because "muh religion"


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to not bother with news articles about this case because one side has managed to claim all of the coverage. The court documents and depositions are available to view publically and contain a far more neutral story than what is being pushed just by the dad.


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] Patachu#0542
religion or science


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
religion


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] Patachu#0542
also that pdf, i'd rather not

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[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is texas


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] Patachu#0542
and?


[29-Oct-19 02:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
The counselor the child visited isn't one of those that pushes everyone to be Trans either.


[29-Oct-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
texas has a dark reputation of basing a lot of it;s legal decisions on religious scripture


[29-Oct-19 02:48 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm trying to know more about these guys, anyone here in this situation or know more about them? what are these counselor's degree or status? are they psychiatrists?


[29-Oct-19 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this in turn has lead a lot of businesses to avoid controversial things lest they find themselves under attack


[29-Oct-19 02:49 PM] Patachu#0542
a reputation is not a fact. a rumor, a hearsay, and all the "but everyone there is racist or bigoted" is never an argument valid.


[29-Oct-19 02:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Patachu read the transcript  @ononim posted. Same for  @prism stryder(intexda)


[29-Oct-19 02:49 PM] Patachu#0542
it's just an exercise, you guys should think critically.


[29-Oct-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d agree with you but this is backed by so much news. There's a reason the states boarding texas are called "the bible belt"


[29-Oct-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

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Bible Belt
The Bible Belt is an informal region in the Southern United States in which socially conservative evangelical Protestantism plays a strong role in society and politics, and Christian church attendance across the denominations is generally higher than the nation's average.
The...
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[29-Oct-19 02:51 PM] Patachu#0542
http://www.fdesouche.com/1113643-etats-unis-une-mere-en-instance-de-divorce-force-son-garcon-de-six-ans-a-devenir-transgenre let's check from a site that's rather left-ish and biased.

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Etats-Unis : une mère en instance de divorce force son garçon de...
James, six ans, est pris dans un cauchemar transgenre. Sous la garde de sa mère à Dallas, au Texas, James est obéissant et vit comme une fille transgenre %
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[29-Oct-19 02:53 PM] Patachu#0542
"In their divorce proceedings, the mother accused the father of maltreatment of his child for failing to assert that James was a transgender, sought deportation measures against him and sought to terminate his parental rights."


[29-Oct-19 02:54 PM] Patachu#0542
"She also seeks to force her to pay for the child's visits to a therapist who has declared her trans-identity as well as transgender medical modifications, which may include hormonal sterilization from the age of eight." there is a difference between >accepting someone's sex and getting a treatment for it. a huge one.


[29-Oct-19 02:54 PM] Patachu#0542
is this a common procedure in the US?


[29-Oct-19 02:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Jesus Christ you fucks the transcripts are right above you stop trading shitty articles and go for the source.


[29-Oct-19 02:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
If a Russian can access them so can you

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[29-Oct-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.keepandshare.com/doc30/109400/luna-younger-court-transcript-pdf-717k?dn=y&dnad=y


[29-Oct-19 02:55 PM] Patachu#0542
@prism stryder(intexda) so let's examine this map. Are you implying that part of the USA is ruled under a theocracy and the republic's laws does not apply?


[29-Oct-19 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reporting for the sake of it


[29-Oct-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yes, the bible belt is ran by laewmakers who ascribe to theocracy and use that as a basis for all decisions made


[29-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Patachu#0542
I can't this site is blocked. And when the inté is doing it, might be for all good reasons. Terrorism, illegal content...


[29-Oct-19 02:56 PM] Patachu#0542
who governs the United States?


[29-Oct-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s different levels of government, the federal and state levels


[29-Oct-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
state law is determined by lawmakers specifically in that state


[29-Oct-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as it is constitutional, then it can fly


[29-Oct-19 02:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's basically archive.is


[29-Oct-19 02:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone probably uploaded something mean and the site got put on a kill list for insulting some poor frenchman


[29-Oct-19 02:58 PM] Patachu#0542
So you confirm those states are ruled by, and must conform to the United States's constitution.


[29-Oct-19 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ya'll are arguing about some completely different bullshit because the Frenchman can't get a VPN


[29-Oct-19 02:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the tiem yes, though there have been a pretty sizable amount of cases where they pass laws to try and push the constitutional definitions


[29-Oct-19 02:59 PM] Patachu#0542
nah it's expensive, I could jump on TOR but thanks recently I got the proof that TOR is not a good idea at all to ensure anonymity and I should remove it.


[29-Oct-19 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m just explaining the bible belt


[29-Oct-19 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
living in one of the bible belt states, they have it out for lgbt people in a major way going as far as passing laws regarding bathrooms of all things


[29-Oct-19 03:01 PM] Patachu#0542
most of the time is vague, it's just to know if this is some kind of IS shit or if they have an opinion, have their traditions and all, but they respect democracy and the principles of the republic. We have at a few details close the same political regime


[29-Oct-19 03:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Patachu what's the proof?


[29-Oct-19 03:01 PM] Patachu#0542
you have states, we have regions.


[29-Oct-19 03:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) You explaining it too is irrelevant to the case at hand. Refer to the proper documentation


[29-Oct-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not trying to make relvence to this case anymore


[29-Oct-19 03:02 PM] Patachu#0542
each region can pass their regulation and all in accordance to the republic.


[29-Oct-19 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
recently the bible belt states tried to push a mass of unconstitutional abortion bans to get thme challenged in the supreme court with the hopes of overturning roe v. wade, which is a constitutional ammendement


[29-Oct-19 03:03 PM] Patachu#0542
religion is nothing but an opinion, it is never said religion really interfere with a justice decision, apart the classic "thou shalt not kill, or hurt badly, or steal things. " but that's more common sense and predates literally all religions.


[29-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Patachu#0542
is the bible belt a political organization?


[29-Oct-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s mostly ran by the GOP so you could say this


[29-Oct-19 03:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In some cases sounds so.


[29-Oct-19 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are some of the heaviest republican states


[29-Oct-19 03:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Organized religion in the US is heavily politicized


[29-Oct-19 03:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/638738799727214613
If you mean you getting caught on derpi, us knowing it Mote was you was done without any technical means


[29-Oct-19 03:05 PM] Patachu#0542
in all cases, just to check, will the kid be given a hormonal treatment? true or false?


[29-Oct-19 03:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Read the court depositions on this


[29-Oct-19 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can;t france blocked it from him


[29-Oct-19 03:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Get a VPN


[29-Oct-19 03:06 PM] Patachu#0542
well I'm asking you. I have not read it and no access to it


[29-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Patachu#0542
yes or no? simple question. Is chemical castration / hormone treatment prior to a surgery is performed on transgender children in the united states.


[29-Oct-19 03:07 PM] Patachu#0542
I need to make up my mind on this, press also here could be biased, it is, always. You are in the U.S. know your laws so you can confirm if it's a fact, or a lie.


[29-Oct-19 03:08 PM] Patachu#0542
That's all what I'm asking.


[29-Oct-19 03:08 PM] ononim#8141
if you only need to access something what is blocked inyour country, I fail to see how tor is not enough


[29-Oct-19 03:09 PM] Patachu#0542
a derpibooru mod banned me for laking an alt accout using TOR, despite using a secondary laptop freshly reinstalled with LinuxMint and all.


[29-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Patachu#0542
and torbrowser's last version. I apply critical thinking, test again, examine my errors, the SSL cert was expired but is not a security leak, but I know TOR is compromised since. ( Which is a good thing IMO. )


[29-Oct-19 03:10 PM] ononim#8141
I am talking about you not having awccess to the transcript


[29-Oct-19 03:10 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah well, you read this transcript?


[29-Oct-19 03:10 PM] ononim#8141
yes


[29-Oct-19 03:11 PM] Patachu#0542
So you can confirm if yes or no the child will be administered a hormonal treatment to reassing his gender to a female prior to a surgery.


[29-Oct-19 03:12 PM] Patachu#0542
if this is true or false.


[29-Oct-19 03:12 PM] Patachu#0542
come on, it's just a question.


[29-Oct-19 03:13 PM] ononim#8141
the transcript is about whenever the child is comfortable being reffered as "she" and wear clothes what arre considered female, and whenever or not anyone forces them to do this


[29-Oct-19 03:13 PM] ononim#8141
do not move goalposts


[29-Oct-19 03:13 PM] Patachu#0542
Will this 7yo children , as claimed in the press here, undergo chemical treatment to get a sex change, it's not complicated!


[29-Oct-19 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
For the interest of the discussion I have reviewed the transcript and there's no talk of Luna taking medications. The identity issue is merely a social thing for the moment, with Luna identifying and behaving as a girl. There's been no need for meds.


[29-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Patachu#0542
i play with ponies since I was a kid, I'm still a male. Having fun in a dress is not a reason to assing a child a gender, now let's get on the facts instead of being vague or escape the question.


[29-Oct-19 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
No. Luna very much identifies as a girl despite having a penis. This is her choice


[29-Oct-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the basic gist of the transcript is that, no, no one is forcing her intot his


[29-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Patachu#0542
So the child will not be given a hormonal treatment, that's all I wanted to ask.


[29-Oct-19 03:15 PM] ononim#8141
good thing what it's not about her playing with little horses but instead identifying as female


[29-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Patachu#0542
I also hardly see a kid of 7yo asking by himself "I want to be the little grrl and need a treatment and stat a transformation procedure"


[29-Oct-19 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She made this decision on her own, has been in this for 5 years


[29-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Patachu#0542
can a child make this genre of decision?


[29-Oct-19 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only one in disagreement is the father, who takes active measures to sabotage the identity.


[29-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/638741113372409866
Again, no technical means were used to determine you were blatantly you


[29-Oct-19 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they want i imagine they could


[29-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This may seem shocking, but you're not good at pretending to be someone else


[29-Oct-19 03:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, Patachu has repeatedly shown to argue in bad faith. So this is over for me. I got better shit to do


[29-Oct-19 03:18 PM] Patachu#0542
@AaronMk why would the decision of the father be less important than the mother's, and why using the term "sabotage the identity" =without considering the mother is also doing the same.


[29-Oct-19 03:18 PM] Patachu#0542
nah, I'm being just objective.


[29-Oct-19 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Because the child wants this, the mother supports this, her brother supports this, a trained league of psychologists supports this, and only the father doesn;t and is going at legal lengths to demand a son


[29-Oct-19 03:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
VPN means squat.
>someone torrented a movie with one of these "we done keep logs"mottos
>local copyright holders raised a infringement case with police
>a month later he got police at his doorstep and confiscating all storage devices.


[29-Oct-19 03:20 PM] Patachu#0542
@Teaspoon, i'm formal, all was done on TOR, unless the mods did a huge bluff and a wild guessing, which is not possible, not even statistically or anything. I was kind of pleased to find out about this, now, it's up to me to find the flaw, but knowing who uses TOR, do I want to disclose it in public?


[29-Oct-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that his opinion is less important, it;s that it;s manifesting in actuall danger to the child


[29-Oct-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has now brought in republican lawmakers to attack this case, which will further complicate things for this child


[29-Oct-19 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
involving politicians also could bring in dangerous violent protesters trying to attack this child and her mother


[29-Oct-19 03:23 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah, let's not forget, VPN is not anonymizing. If it's to get on scihub or 8chan or whatever deep web stuff, or find neat torrents and warez, yes. but if it's to do illegal stuff, it's another story. you will get caught.


[29-Oct-19 03:24 PM] Patachu#0542
please cite sources more often. I wonder how it would be a "danger to the child" more than forcing a kid into a gender transition.


[29-Oct-19 03:25 PM] Patachu#0542
You can do all you want when you're adult, i will defend this, but before, call it what you want, it's abuse,


[29-Oct-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/violence-against-abortion-clinics-like-planned-parenthood-hit-a-record-high-last-year-doctors-say-its-getting-worse/ this is the type of shit that goes down when politicians get involved

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Violence against abortion clinics hit a record high last year. Doc...
One provider said the movement against abortion access feels similar to when Dr. George Tiller, a well-known abortion doctor, was assassinated in 2009
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/05/31/d8f2ef83-5d4a-48a3-8b8c-ab719b3f4e93/thumbnail/1200x630/5a320e1a14df98a0bc7714b4ddd7fdca/gettyimages-1147032403.jpg


[29-Oct-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
specifically those politcians int he bible belt


[29-Oct-19 03:26 PM] Patachu#0542
>the bible belt


[29-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Patachu#0542
hell, I feel like talking with the alt right always mentioning "it's the zionists" or "it's the masons"


[29-Oct-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The Bible Belt is an informal region in the Southern United States in which socially conservative evangelical Protestantism plays a strong role in society and politics, and Christian church attendance across the denominations is generally higher than the nation's average.


[29-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God is it really so hard for you to believe we have a cultural connection between religion and politics


[29-Oct-19 03:27 PM] Patachu#0542
this is an infertile conversation.


[29-Oct-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
living in a bible belt state, i can confirm most of this is true


[29-Oct-19 03:28 PM] Patachu#0542
>God 
now you say it, yes. if it is official then, assume this is a legit connection. but legally, I think and hope that the state and church are separated.


[29-Oct-19 03:28 PM] Patachu#0542
the rest is essentially a bias through a form of paranoia.


[29-Oct-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'd hope so, but you;d be wrong in so many ways


[29-Oct-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt
Bible Belt
The Bible Belt is an informal region in the Southern United States in which socially conservative evangelical Protestantism plays a strong role in society and politics, and Christian church attendance across the denominations is generally higher than the nation's average.
The...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/BibleBelt.png


[29-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Patachu#0542
if not, you would have people chasing you in the streets, raiding mosques and arresting you from being homosexual, this is not the case.


[29-Oct-19 03:29 PM] Patachu#0542
unless I really know nothing about your country and this is really what is happening.


[29-Oct-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kind of is what;s happening all over the place


[29-Oct-19 03:30 PM] Patachu#0542
but allow me again to have a doubt and assure you that you  do not live in a theocracy.


[29-Oct-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only instead of arresting, they simply beat the crap out of you instead while the police do nothing to stop them


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Patachu#0542
ah now this is worrying.


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know we have government buildings that have the  statues of the Ten Commandments on them?


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know "In God We Trust" is our official motto?


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah we have the same thing here.


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/638743877070880779
m8, you think you're way smarter than you actually are, and it boggles me that you still don't understand how you were so obvious


[29-Oct-19 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So much for Laicite


[29-Oct-19 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in god we trust wasnt our original motto either, it used to be "e pluribus unem"


[29-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But whatever, you do you


[29-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm not christian but when the churches are attacked, or burned here, or synagogues painted with swastika it does makes me rage.


[29-Oct-19 03:32 PM] Patachu#0542
and i admit, I really shed a tear when the Notre Dame de Paris burned.


[29-Oct-19 03:33 PM] Patachu#0542
even seen muslims and atheists united with people praying in the streets.


[29-Oct-19 03:34 PM] Patachu#0542
but that's a thing, it's a part of the culture of the country you live in.


[29-Oct-19 03:35 PM] Patachu#0542
now let's make a difference, if you confirm that fundamentalists are attacking people in "the bible belt" while police is watching, and the states acts based on decisions of the bible and nothing constitutional, like restricting free speech and so on whatever, this is different.


[29-Oct-19 03:38 PM] Patachu#0542
( also a bias I could have here is the difference between catholicism, present in europe, and protestantism, more proper to US/CA and UK)


[29-Oct-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathroom_bill
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-5-worst-states-for-lgbt-people-198931/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbeat_bill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States

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Bathroom bill
A bathroom bill is the common name for legislation or a statute that defines access to public toilets by gender  (restrooms)—or transgender individual. Bathroom bills affect access to sex-segregated public facilities for an individual based on a determination of their sex a...

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-5-worst-states-for-lgbt-people-198931/
The 5 Worst States for LGBT People
See where America’s gay, lesbian, bi and transgender citizens have it worst
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbeat_bill
Heartbeat bill
A heartbeat bill or fetal heartbeat bill is a controversial form of abortion restriction legislation in the United States which makes abortions illegal as soon as the embryonic or fetal heartbeat can be detected.In 2013, North Dakota became the first state to pass a heartbeat...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
History of violence against LGBT people in the United States
The history of violence against LGBT people in the United States is made up of assaults on gay men, lesbians, bisexual, and transgender individuals (LGBT), legal responses to such violence, and hate crime statistics in the United States of America. Those targeted by such viol...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mark_Carson_Gay_Murder_New_York_Memorial_West_Village_2013_Shankbone.JPG/1200px-Mark_Carson_Gay_Murder_New_York_Memorial_West_Village_2013_Shankbone.JPG


[29-Oct-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_acts_of_violence_against_LGBT_people

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Significant acts of violence against LGBT people
This is a list of notable homophobic, biphobic and transphobic violence. Examples include corrective rape and other types of assault.
See list of unlawfully killed transgender people for homicides of transgender people.


[29-Oct-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finding cases where police did nothing is harder, because in those cases police tend to supress evidence, and most cases are isolated


[29-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
is bathroom really an important thing for LGBT?


[29-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
i mean, public bathrooms?


[29-Oct-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was kinda, yeah


[29-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Patachu#0542
seriously?


[29-Oct-19 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was an attempt to scare people into thinkign trans people were rapists out for your daughters


[29-Oct-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it inspired people to turn vigilant against "suspicious" people enterign bathrooms as well


[29-Oct-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
supporters of the bills actively threatened gun violence agaisnt trans people, and businesses pulled out of states supporting the bill


[29-Oct-19 03:48 PM] ononim#8141
They were not allowed to use a fucking bathroom


[29-Oct-19 03:49 PM] ononim#8141
which is kinda important to biological organisms like humans


[29-Oct-19 03:55 PM] Patachu#0542
....er, what is wrong of using the other bathroom?


[29-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Patachu#0542
it's a meme at this point, itms not even politics.


[29-Oct-19 03:56 PM] Patachu#0542
let's be a bit more serious with the definition of aggressions against gay/lesbian people instead.


[29-Oct-19 03:57 PM] Patachu#0542
I mean, yes there are acts of violence but these usually end up condemned and perpetrators arrested.


[29-Oct-19 03:58 PM] Patachu#0542
this isn't shariah law either.


[29-Oct-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they were chased out of those bathrooms as well


[29-Oct-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a meme?


[29-Oct-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bathroom bill was completely political


[29-Oct-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a political stunt to demonize trans people, and goad people into attacking "suspicious" individuals entering bathrooms


[29-Oct-19 04:02 PM] Patachu#0542
using the other bathroom would put people at risk?


[29-Oct-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were attacked in those bathrooms


[29-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
how many recognized "genders" do you have? male, female, transmale,; transfemale, nonbinary, intersex, agender, asexual, embygender, ecogender all that, would at thos point you require having one bathroom for each gender?


[29-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
if a transgender  goes in a women's bathroom and gets assaulted, it's obvious. he can aslo use the other and not being assaulted.


[29-Oct-19 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
male/female/transmale/transfemale


[29-Oct-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and intersex


[29-Oct-19 04:05 PM] Patachu#0542
and well, assuming he still have a penis, that would be weird to pee standiung up with ladies around. I can perfectly understand this, also feminists are against this.


[29-Oct-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sayign they were attacked in the bathroom for their gender


[29-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Patachu#0542
so why not using the other bathroom?


[29-Oct-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because thye were attacked


[29-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Patachu#0542
i don't understand? if i were transsexual gender, i would just move on and not go to the ladies bathroom and just pee on the urinal and move on.


[29-Oct-19 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were attacked in the men;s room


[29-Oct-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also not all trans people are male -> female


[29-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Patachu#0542
attacked by who exactly?


[29-Oct-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by people who hate them


[29-Oct-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who look at thme as freaks


[29-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Patachu#0542
I also get attacked by people who hate people like me, what's the point.


[29-Oct-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did you read none of th elinks i gave you?


[29-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Patachu#0542
nah, it's people, attacking people. the reason is as absurd as saying "you were attacked because you have a rainbow dash t-shirt"


[29-Oct-19 04:08 PM] ononim#8141
lord you're either so dense or pretending to be one


[29-Oct-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, people have gotten attacked over rainbow dash t-shirts as well


[29-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Patachu#0542
what's the point of reading links since you use these links to make up your own opinion.


[29-Oct-19 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is fucking hostile as shit


[29-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Patachu#0542
nah, I am just skeptic.


[29-Oct-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you aren;t skeptic, a skeptic would have deduced soemthing by now, you just go "so what, why didnt they use the thign you already gave a reason for to not use"


[29-Oct-19 04:10 PM] Patachu#0542
maybe too much, maybe not enough. I'm all for people's rights but therre might be a lot of exxageration.


[29-Oct-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no exageration here, you;re just trying to stay point blank int he middle instead of actually looking at facts


[29-Oct-19 04:11 PM] Patachu#0542
if someone is attacked in a bathroom, anyone can issue a complaint, have right to an investigation and have the trial of their aggressors, does people have this right?


[29-Oct-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people called police, that doesnt just automaticly stop attacks form happening


[29-Oct-19 04:12 PM] Patachu#0542
that's the problem, you keep taking random articles from like, Vice or Pinknews as facts while the goal is essentially militantism. It's like if I wentr 5 minutes on /pol/ and realize the black people are waiting to culturally enrich me.


[29-Oct-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and many of tthe attacks in this case had lethal intent


[29-Oct-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i gave you fucking wikipedia


[29-Oct-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pinknews? i have not once linked pink news


[29-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Patachu#0542
yes but were the perpetrators arrested and trialed. yes?


[29-Oct-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is the attacks, not the fate of the attackers


[29-Oct-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people were still hurt and killed


[29-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People keep fucking doing it too


[29-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Patachu#0542
say, you want to be safe  from homophobia outside bathroom, a gay person gets attacked by assholes on the metro.


[29-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Patachu#0542
Would there be a bill to make a safespace for these people in the metro?


[29-Oct-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now you;re moving goal posts


[29-Oct-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trains aren;t gendered


[29-Oct-19 04:15 PM] Patachu#0542
this is asking for segregation. THIS is exactly where I want to go, having an opinion is one thing, but can this violence be linked to a political militantism? don't you think that woild be counterproductive?


[29-Oct-19 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes, metro attacks happen all the fucking time


[29-Oct-19 04:15 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah especially here by,  I confirm, religious motivated attacks


[29-Oct-19 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of it is linked very specifically to political militarianism


[29-Oct-19 04:16 PM] Patachu#0542
but not much by the christians or jews or buddhists.


[29-Oct-19 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christians, catholics, mormons, and protestants tend to be the main culprits


[29-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Patachu#0542
so what should be the solution in your opinion. Remove "gender" on the restrooms's doors?


[29-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Patachu#0542
not muslims? you're lucky.


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my solution, is stop fucking villifying trans people


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it so hard to remove the signs


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also gendered bathrooms are pointless


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make all bathrooms neutral and only have stalls


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we donpt need urinals


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Patachu#0542
maybe because a woman don't want to pee next to a stranger guy peeing in the same room to begin with.


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course you find a way to make it about Muslims too


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
urinals are redundant


[29-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obsessed.


[29-Oct-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
urinals are the only difference between a men and women;s room


[29-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
France shits on its Muslim population then acts surprised when they get shit back


[29-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Patachu#0542
factually it's the majority of attacks here https://www.marianne.net/societe/sondage-sur-l-homosexualite-un-gouffre-separe-les-musulmans-du-reste-de-la-population

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https://www.marianne.net/societe/sondage-sur-l-homosexualite-un-gouffre-separe-les-musulmans-du-reste-de-la-population
Sondage : sur l'homosexualité, un gouffre sépare les musulmans d...
Une étude de l'Ifop indique que 63% des personnes de confession musulmane interrogées perçoivent l'homosexualité comme "une maladie" ou "une perversion sexuelle", contre 20% chez les catholiques pratiquants et 10% chez les "sans religion".
https://media.marianne.net/sites/default/files/france-homosexualite-homophobie-homosexualite-islam-rejet-musulmans.jpg


[29-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Weren't you just complaining that people were linking to biased sites


[29-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can tell by the title it is


[29-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Err, site name


[29-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Patachu#0542
well, for living there I guarantee you that there is a huge amount of crime, and for knowing gay people who have been confronted to this, it's not biased.


[29-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Patachu#0542
I wish it were.


[29-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Patachu#0542
what site name?


[29-Oct-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the muslims in america are trying to live peaceful lives, while thye get attacked on all sides by politicians and angry mobs


[29-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Marianne


[29-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like if I linked "Liberty News" or some shit


[29-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Patachu#0542
it's not a radical feminist site.


[29-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Patachu#0542
er, yeah we kind of value liberty here.


[29-Oct-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have tried to stick mainly to wikipedia, which is an enclyclopedia and not a news site


[29-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[29-Oct-19 04:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Marianne is the symbol of France


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence I assume this is some FN leaning rag


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Patachu#0542
okay, there are always a lot of feminist writers everywhere. skip the text unless you can translate, the graphs don't need translation.,


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Patachu#0542
not even close.


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Alright then I have a question for you, sorry about the mistake


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is your solution?


[29-Oct-19 04:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously, what do you want done?


[29-Oct-19 04:24 PM] Patachu#0542
you know, I'm not really fancying the FN besides for a few points but it's like having to oppose Macron, just like the duality Trump/Clinton.


[29-Oct-19 04:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Talking about it and seething without solutions is basically only done in bad faith in hope that someone acts out because they're mad


[29-Oct-19 04:25 PM] Patachu#0542
I dunno, we never had any problem with bathrooms here. neither in Swiss, neither in Ireland or Belgium, and I spent a while there these past years


[29-Oct-19 04:25 PM] Patachu#0542
haven't checked the 100ish other s


[29-Oct-19 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s the difference between america and most of europe, america is obsessed with segregating genders to a point of violence


[29-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Patachu#0542
well, there is a differnece between male and female, that's biology.


[29-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Oct-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not the point


[29-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ignore the intro, go to the main part


[29-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Patachu#0542
and sorry to say it but we can hardly escape this. otherwise I demand a DNA laboratory to help me identifying as my pegasus OC.


[29-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Watch the video, see how the US is


[29-Oct-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s not going to, he;s already too stuck in his ways


[29-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
1 min in


[29-Oct-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Way to miss the point of the article I linked


[29-Oct-19 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Which you all did for 3 hours


[29-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Patachu#0542
I promise I won't make a joke about the guy speaking or the crazy big lady blabbering about whatever in a shop.


[29-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Patachu#0542
where is the secu?


[29-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Patachu#0542
does she have a gun?


[29-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At the end they ask her to leave


[29-Oct-19 04:29 PM] Patachu#0542
...the fuck is going on here.


[29-Oct-19 04:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a chain of stores that has a bathroom policy conservatives dislike


[29-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Patachu#0542
okay so that big momma was a violent protest?


[29-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Patachu#0542
(laughing my arse off about this)


[29-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah that was more for humor/showing how absurd it is


[29-Oct-19 04:30 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah well all of this is absurd anyways.


[29-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Patachu#0542
both the fundies and the pro-genderfluid philosophies are biased.


[29-Oct-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Gender is a social construct


[29-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Patachu#0542
I'm just gonna end this infertile debate with "Let them fight"


[29-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Patachu#0542
unless science allows me to overcome my non wanted human identity and give me a pair of wings and a nice mane.


[29-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about physiology


[29-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm talking about gender


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] Patachu#0542
society constructs what it wants. Biology : *exists* XY chromosome, with or without hardware still means male, and XX still means female, you can not escape it.


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] Patachu#0542
which makes me think on a broader topic


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay, and?


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do you not understand that gender is a social construct based around visual, behavioral, and expressive cues?


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
What does that have to do with _gender_


[29-Oct-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Are you incapable of following the point


[29-Oct-19 04:35 PM] Patachu#0542
what point? there are men and women, male and females in all mammals.


[29-Oct-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
there is a male and female sex dichotomy in mammals


[29-Oct-19 04:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course there are, but we're talking about humans


[29-Oct-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
But there are not exclusively men and women in mammals


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Patachu#0542
if I had a tragic accident and lost my genitalias, I wouldn't end up genderless.


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Human society is another whole bucket of fish


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
There are lots of human societies too


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
And they don't exclusively have men and women


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, one society's concept of gender will obviously be different from another's


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
A relatively well-known example: the _castrato_


[29-Oct-19 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some societies believe in a third gender, which effectively confirms the historicity of queer identities


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Patachu#0542
there are people born with hermaphrodism, at this point there is a consensus to allow the person to get reconstructive surgery instead of having both, or none.


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
The Romans and Greeks had similar gender systems


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Patachu#0542
there is also a health risk, not just mental but physiological.


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Lesser well known: many Native American tribes have a particularly fluid concept of gender


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
@Patachu shut up about physiology


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
we're talking about _gender_


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Gender is **_NOT_** physiology


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Patachu#0542
what is gender then.


[29-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Patachu#0542
okay.


[29-Oct-19 04:38 PM] Patachu#0542
that's new but I'm listening. That sounds intresting.


[29-Oct-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
It is a social expression of how you perceive your identity


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Patachu#0542
Okay... Who started this?


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Society did


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Patachu#0542
which psychiatrist or expert determined and set the base of "gender"


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Why do women wear red dresses and men wear suits


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was always there, we only recently discovered and defined what it is


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>In general terms, "sex" refers to the biological differences between males and females, such as the genitalia and genetic differences. "Gender" is more difficult to define, but it can refer to the role of a male or female in society, known as a gender role, or an individual's concept of themselves, or gender identity.


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not a physiological difference


[29-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Patachu#0542
which society? American society is not the same even just in America alone.


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Indeed, which society


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
It's whatever norms society associates with it


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] Patachu#0542
Alright, so, gender is a belief.


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
and that's whatever society you happen to reside in


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that's the point, all spcieties are different and each of them has its own ideas about gender


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s along the liens of blue being manly, and pink being femenine


[29-Oct-19 04:40 PM] Patachu#0542
the belief you can be and live in the other gender, no gender regardless of your genitals,


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's being non-conforming


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] Patachu#0542
just like the belief I am a pony trapped in a clumsy human body.


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] Patachu#0542
okay


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender is how you behave, in a way


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] Patachu#0542
i don't think I have any other question.


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like take my hvac class, it;s a sausage fest in there of the worst fucking kind


[29-Oct-19 04:41 PM] byte[]#2610
@Patachu why don't men wear red dresses, high heels, and lip gloss to formal events?

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[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are **cis-gender** people, after all, just because you're "normal" does not mean you are not under the influence of the term


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
That's part of an expression of gender


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Patachu#0542
I'd present you a McLeod, from Glasgow who would have a word with you.


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they live up to all of the "male" stereo types


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
And I'm going to preemptively tackle the attack helicopter argument by saying that gender generally has to be influenced by the society it exists in


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
The west does not have a "pony" gender


[29-Oct-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Some other culture may


[29-Oct-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know of any that do, though


[29-Oct-19 04:43 PM] Patachu#0542
y'all need Celestia.


[29-Oct-19 04:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And you need to read a book


[29-Oct-19 04:43 PM] Patachu#0542
since it's a personal thing, I'm gonna assume i can identify as a pony and call anyone who disagree with me as a bigot.


[29-Oct-19 04:43 PM] Patachu#0542
can I do that?


[29-Oct-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I just addressed that


[29-Oct-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Have you read my argument


[29-Oct-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Or rather, comprehended it


[29-Oct-19 04:44 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah the "west" don't have a pony gender. Maybe other cultures. What if it is my culture?


[29-Oct-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only if you're sincere about it


[29-Oct-19 04:45 PM] Patachu#0542
ah you can not tell if anyone is sincere about it, how can you do that?


[29-Oct-19 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By bonding with them, interacting with them on a regular basis, and judging what their thoughts are in the moments when they're sharing intimate thoughts


[29-Oct-19 04:46 PM] Patachu#0542
It's called equine therianthrope. it does exists in America as a fact


[29-Oct-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If some boomer comes up to me in a condescending tone and tells me they're an attack helicopter, i have all reason to disdain them tbh


[29-Oct-19 04:46 PM] Patachu#0542
Therian is a spiritual belief from natives and a few other cultures, especially in asia.


[29-Oct-19 04:47 PM] Patachu#0542
And even in druidic civilization until the middle ages.


[29-Oct-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
If you are sincere in your expression of gender then I have no issues with your expression of it


[29-Oct-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
But your argument makes you sound very insincere


[29-Oct-19 04:47 PM] Patachu#0542
don't be so judgemental.


[29-Oct-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm allowed to be judgemental, after all you were of my opinion


[29-Oct-19 04:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop arguing with him, he's engaging in bad faith


[29-Oct-19 04:49 PM] Patachu#0542
don't we all engage in all kind of faith? good or bad?

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[29-Oct-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[29-Oct-19 04:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[29-Oct-19 04:50 PM] Patachu#0542
apart when our things are based on science. and reality.


[29-Oct-19 04:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Oct-19 04:50 PM] Patachu#0542
okay gen z


[29-Oct-19 04:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is anthropology not a science?


[29-Oct-19 04:51 PM] Patachu#0542
if you are leftist, right-wing, nazi, communist, liberal, atheist, catholic, jew. muslim, pro-LGBT or pro-flat-eart-alien overlords, you are in a reasoning of beliefs.


[29-Oct-19 04:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender is rather obviously anthropological


[29-Oct-19 04:51 PM] Patachu#0542
yes it is, go ahead everyone.


[29-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Patachu#0542
find me a scientific study that will demonstrate this.


[29-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you even think about what you type?


[29-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Patachu#0542
absolutely.


[29-Oct-19 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes it feels like some people have shit for brains tbh


[29-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Patachu#0542
explain why.


[29-Oct-19 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I won't, you know exactly what i meant


[29-Oct-19 04:53 PM] Patachu#0542
all of the debate on gender IS ideological. You have your beliefs, it is your right.


[29-Oct-19 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop being in denial and accept that you're depending on platitudes to sustain your ego


[29-Oct-19 04:54 PM] Patachu#0542
you have the right to be what you want to be. I'm noit in denial , I am JUST in disagreement with you guys's beliefs and ideology, and confronting it with mine, and the others, who want to attack your beliefs with violence.


[29-Oct-19 04:54 PM] Patachu#0542
that's again, another thing.


[29-Oct-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
I can provide clear scientific evidence that people hold particular beliefs, but there is no scientific evidence that supports any beliefs in gender because they're not of a rational basis


[29-Oct-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
and yes that includes traditionalist beliefs


[29-Oct-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not of any rational basis


[29-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Patachu#0542
should a trans person be attacked from being trans? absolutely not,  neither a jewish person wearing a kippa or a jewish woman wearing a veil.


[29-Oct-19 04:56 PM] Patachu#0542
well, around here, you pick anyone, a teacher, a biologist, even a random person you talk to them about all this, they will reason like me, and might even be more aggressive and tell you these people should be locked up in a psychiatric hospital.


[29-Oct-19 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the most pathetic appeal to group consensus I've ever heard


[29-Oct-19 04:57 PM] Patachu#0542
at this point you were right on a thing, this is a difference between cultures.


[29-Oct-19 04:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem here isn't the quantity of people who agree with you


[29-Oct-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have presented mountaisn of evidence for my claims, you have presented nothing but saying the opposite of what i said


[29-Oct-19 04:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem here is how well versed they are in gender issues and if they have regular contact with people whose gender is a bigger part of their lives than usual


[29-Oct-19 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd rather take an opinion from a well-informed person than the average Joe on the street whose culture consists of watching TV all afternoon


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] Patachu#0542
again, i'm not like going to stop you to change your gender do what you want as long  no one is forced to kneel before your exigences, same with any sexual orientation or political belief ( until they win ) but let's displace the thing a bit more to the east. Imagine how you would be treated like in Syria, Iran, Saudi arabia and all.


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I might consider the latter but only in a critical data context


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
gender roles in the muslim world are traditionalist


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't mean they're of a rational basis


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] Patachu#0542
does that means yours are on a rational basis too?


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I just said that


[29-Oct-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not of a rational basis


[29-Oct-19 05:00 PM] Patachu#0542
that's the same for all of us man!


[29-Oct-19 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
the burden of proof isn't on me to disprove that others' systems are right


[29-Oct-19 05:00 PM] Patachu#0542
er, person. sorry.


[29-Oct-19 05:01 PM] Patachu#0542
so the best approach to this, in my opinion is not to force any ideology into people. like, not demanding common restroom/toilets.


[29-Oct-19 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ideology is not something you can escape


[29-Oct-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
going to nip that one in the bud too: it's more expensive to keep separate toilets than just a long row of stalls


[29-Oct-19 05:02 PM] Patachu#0542
And assume that, sorry about this, but the minority never have a bigger importance than the vast majority. with maybe 0,01% of trans people, you don't change all of a system.


[29-Oct-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
genderign bathrooms is also kind of a form of forcing ideology onto people...


[29-Oct-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no rational basis for keeping separate bathrooms, only an ideological one


[29-Oct-19 05:03 PM] Patachu#0542
In fact the more important should be 
- reinforce security to avoid aggressions regardless of the gender or belief or whatever
- improve the toilets's access to handicapped people who are about 3 or 4%


[29-Oct-19 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender noncomforming people who officially admit that they're ngc are indeed a tiny number, but what about people still in the closet?


[29-Oct-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't disagree with that


[29-Oct-19 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Patachu i'd go to a length and say that society's gender separation is the very source of that gender aggression in the first place


[29-Oct-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't have to disagree with that in order to also agree that having separate bathrooms / forcing someone to use one particular bathroom is absurd


[29-Oct-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, chicken and egg problem


[29-Oct-19 05:04 PM] Patachu#0542
I disagree, everyone. It's about the quality of your population.


[29-Oct-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What?


[29-Oct-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[29-Oct-19 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quality of what


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Patachu#0542
many countries have gendered bathrooms, like, all of them, and don't have the same kind of aggressions, apart of course in Iran, Kazhakstan uzbekistan, afghanistan etceterastan


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Patachu#0542
how to explain...


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
> society's gender separation is the very source of that gender aggression in the first place


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Patachu#0542
the degree of criminality. of civilization.


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
societies are societies


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
if you believe in objective morality, you might argue the degree of morality


[29-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
is that what you mean?


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] Patachu#0542
No. not at all. You cannot compare like, Norway and Burkiina Faso.


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] Patachu#0542
or even canada to the U.S.


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not against the law to stone a homosexual to death in many theocratic nations


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
does that make societies that allow that less criminal


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] Patachu#0542
or closest to us here, France and Swoitzerland.


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
your argument fucking _sucks_


[29-Oct-19 05:06 PM] Patachu#0542
That's where my point is.


[29-Oct-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
then fix your definition


[29-Oct-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
because I'm not getting it


[29-Oct-19 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, i understand, you're ranking societies on a hierarchal basis


[29-Oct-19 05:08 PM] Patachu#0542
the degree of civilization varies between countries and I'm getting to the point. When you have a society that's civilized, gender is not a problem at all, no one will be attacked for using the bathroom they want to use.


[29-Oct-19 05:08 PM] Patachu#0542
if you go to a place like algeria, you will be in trouble as well.


[29-Oct-19 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem is the definition of "civilized"


[29-Oct-19 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
what does that mean


[29-Oct-19 05:08 PM] Patachu#0542
if you are in a pub in Dublin at 2AM it does not matter, anything goes.


[29-Oct-19 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
European nations were by no means civilized when they were ransacking their colonies


[29-Oct-19 05:09 PM] Patachu#0542
this means America is what we could say.... not really as civilized, globally.


[29-Oct-19 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which reminds me, most of Ugandan society's recent homophobic tendencies are inherited from the British colonial era


[29-Oct-19 05:09 PM] Patachu#0542
yes but that was a bit better under colonization.


[29-Oct-19 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of Uganda's tribal groups had flexible ideas of gender


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
you still haven't answered what it means for a country to be more civilized than another


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Until the British came by and labelled all these customs as subversive, and left a system of legitimized gender violence


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Patachu#0542
they had nothing, Europeans arrived, and brought some of their know how.


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They had nothing?


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Patachu#0542
all of colonization was not negative.


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, read a god damn book


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Timbuktu had one of the world's first proper universities by modern standards


[29-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Patachu#0542
whihch one? I don't have mein kampf, not even a bible.


[29-Oct-19 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Timbuktu is in Mali


[29-Oct-19 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you're insincere but you're quite possibly more ignorant than I am


[29-Oct-19 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
you have so far conveniently ignored every time I presented a legitimate complaint with your argument and tried to exclude things that don't meet your definition from your arguments


[29-Oct-19 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact it is quite easy to argue that European colonization was a net negative for colonized societies if you have enough historical knowlege


[29-Oct-19 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Europe basically destroyed local nascent markets and trade routes in Africa because they were afraid they'd form competition


[29-Oct-19 05:12 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah but all I read is you bring things, but never supported by " look at those stats "  "look at the discoveries and achievements from Timbuktu that makes Harvard and Oxford shit their pants"


[29-Oct-19 05:12 PM] Patachu#0542
I only ask to believe you!


[29-Oct-19 05:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This also extended to ideological struggle, as British colonial authorities in Zimbabwe struggled to explain how the impressive native fortifications that were present there for centuries could not have been built by "negroes"


[29-Oct-19 05:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Colonialism was a tragedy, and remaining apologists for it like you are only prove that it's been ruthlessly efficient in its ideological doctrine


[29-Oct-19 05:14 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah the pyramids are a good proof Africans can build solid things that lasts.


[29-Oct-19 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
what do you mean by civilized


[29-Oct-19 05:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is the vast, mostly empty steppe a civilization to a Central Asian nomadic horseman?


[29-Oct-19 05:15 PM] Patachu#0542
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GUkTnf4ie3Y/XUXYcOdTm1I/AAAAAAABTU4/PQF-wWp8klcpX9Lf_G9X2aRecgG5Tx7YwCLcBGAs/s1600/carte%2BQI.png

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[29-Oct-19 05:15 PM] Patachu#0542
let's get things straight and let's not lying to ourselves.


[29-Oct-19 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
what's the graph


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] Patachu#0542
it's the global IQ by country.


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If this is about IQ i may as well just end the conversation here


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
"countries by IQ"


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck off mate


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**Oh.**


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] Patachu#0542
why?


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
goodbye


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once again my assumption that some people have shit for brains is proven true


[29-Oct-19 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ


[29-Oct-19 05:30 PM] ononim#8141
Saying the quiet part loud, huh


[29-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
How to spot a fascist:


[29-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
1: Tell them about someone attakking someone because of what that person is


[29-Oct-19 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
2: Further tell them about plans by the gov't to try and protect people from being attakked for these reasons


[29-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
3: Listen to them screech about how it's just "people attacking people, nothing out of the ordinary", implying they don't believe [certain kinds of] people when attakked deserve protection


[29-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
4: Further listen to them screech about how a particular institution aggravating and condoning the attakks is totally uninvolved, and that this is just "people being people" and is "natural", so we shouldn't oppose the institution's influence


[29-Oct-19 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, I missed the fun stuff, didn't I?


[29-Oct-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[29-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-28/u-k-to-destroy-commemorative-50p-coins-in-brexit-meltdown


[29-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
So for some context, France is really big into secularism cause of how they chopped off the heads of anyone that so much as whispered about the clergy retaining power


[29-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
THAT SAID


[29-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice it's an excuse to shit on muslims.


[29-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
While the French gov't does a great job of separating church and state, there's sort of a culturally built-in tolerance to Christianity


[29-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like when an employer looks at a resume


[29-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
if they see Christian stuff, they ignore it


[29-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
if they see Muslim stuff, into the garbage that resume goes


[29-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's a ban on religious symbols in schools etc.


[29-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
so kids in theory can't wear crosses to class


[29-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
in practice it means jews and muslims can't wear shit, you can wear all the crosses you want.


[29-Oct-19 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really convenient excuse to pretend that church and state are inseparable even on the ground level when you want to discriminate.


[29-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just selective enforcement and bam.


[29-Oct-19 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
So whether he's actually French or not, France's stuff really helps with his warped worldview.


[29-Oct-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141

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[29-Oct-19 07:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw the king of spain is a meanie poopyhead


[29-Oct-19 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
the queen can succ my scholong


[29-Oct-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Oct-19 08:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
When your Kuomintang shenanigans go south at super bugaloo rates and start dealing dope

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[29-Oct-19 08:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
But then your two competing agencies get merged and the CIA finally decides, "why not deal drugs? We'll bury our own."

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[29-Oct-19 08:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Y'know, my district is represented in Washington by a former CIA agent. Maybe next time she does a coffee house town hall thing I should go and ask if she ever had to ice another CIA agent in a self-fu ding drug op in Iraq gone wrong


[29-Oct-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/25a4f52cb21f4706923e93dc22f4faca

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House nears OK of bill punishing Turkey for Syria incursion
WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan bill curbing arms sales to Turkey and punishing that country's top officials for its invasion of northern Syria is sailing toward House approval. Lawmakers...
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[29-Oct-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
His face shrank by another size https://i.redd.it/cmbhskcuoev31.jpg

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[29-Oct-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
> Is it me or does Charlie seem almost turned on by the idea of people dying 'like a whimpering baby"?


[29-Oct-19 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
> He does seem to have a thing for diapers.


[29-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
ABDL snuff

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[29-Oct-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Wut


[29-Oct-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh


[29-Oct-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
Forgot what adbl was


[29-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wish I could


[29-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate the internet


[29-Oct-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just imagine trump doing this eventually... minus a few of those things... hopefully

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[29-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
nah


[29-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
That's what E3 does


[29-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Orion Starshade#8692
:pepega:


[29-Oct-19 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
fixed the topic


[29-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
🤡


[29-Oct-19 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) yo is that tweet real


[29-Oct-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[29-Oct-19 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh


[29-Oct-19 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
god damnit, i wish it was lmao


[29-Oct-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] Something something Hegelian dialectic of Political and Civil soviety something something


[29-Oct-19 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-armenia/u-s-house-backs-measure-recognizing-armenian-genocide-idUSKBN1X82LY

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U.S. House backs measure recognizing Armenian genocide
The U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday in favor of a ...
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[29-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time for Mitch to deny it ever happened, I guess


[29-Oct-19 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
"The jury's still out folks. It's not up to politicians to decide on what history is." - Baba Mitch Hassan McConnal-Rouhani


[29-Oct-19 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mitch Pasha


[29-Oct-19 11:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
wow giving peoples info out oof


[29-Oct-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
don't worry about that, it's a fake tweet


[29-Oct-19 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
well, yet


[29-Oct-19 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's stupid enough to start leaking secretive info into the public loudly


[29-Oct-19 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he's already done it before


[29-Oct-19 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
he did it yesterday


[29-Oct-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his back pats on bag daddy have actually put soldiers in danger because he;s said too much


[29-Oct-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet, i doubt he;s even half way through yellign things to the wind about the bag daddy deadening because this is his only wave that he can ride anymore


[29-Oct-19 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
part of me tells me that Trump is just giving up and saying all these absurdities for shits and giggles


[29-Oct-19 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but the other part tells me he'd be too stupid to consider that


[29-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/468020-missouris-state-health-director-says-he-tracked-planned-parenthood

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Missouri's state health director says he tracked Planned Parenthoo...
Missouri's state health director testified Tuesday that he had kept a spreadsheet tracking the periods of women who visited a Planned Parenthood clinic in the state as a means of identifying patients who had undergone failed abortions.
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[29-Oct-19 11:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
binders of women


[29-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
```I can't this site is blocked. And when the inté is doing it, might be for all good reasons```


[29-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[29-Oct-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[29-Oct-19 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I should've banned him right there for that, anyone that's ever had to deal with him for more than minute knows how farcical that was


[29-Oct-19 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was worth it for the "I'm gonna end my whole career" moment that IQ map was


[30-Oct-19 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah that was a significant bruh moment


[30-Oct-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/dfde34e13abf49388da2a262684fb1e0

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Lyft, Uber will ask California voters to block employee law
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Some of the country's largest ride-sharing companies proposed a California law on Tuesday that would let them continue to treat drivers as independent contractors while...
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[30-Oct-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
and california voters will say "fuck you"


[30-Oct-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i too will say "fuck you" sadly i do not live in california to actually yell fuck you at the uber lyft


[30-Oct-19 12:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  https://www.fastcompany.com/90338071/we-make-325000-a-year-and-feel-like-we-live-paycheck-to-paycheck

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Three couples tell us how much they earn, spend, and save.
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[30-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
... $5000 a year on clothes


[30-Oct-19 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[30-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that article's title is clickbait bullshit


[30-Oct-19 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
stop spending so much on candles


[30-Oct-19 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, it demonstrates how absolutely wasteful you have to be in order to squander away $325k a year


[30-Oct-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Additional savings (retirement investments): $50,000


[30-Oct-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[30-Oct-19 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
they spend more on annual retirement investments than a lot of people make a year


[30-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
> Vacations (one to two big ones + weekend trips): $15,000


[30-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
> Home maintenance/improvement: $12,000


[30-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
um


[30-Oct-19 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
how?


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
> “We feel like we live paycheck to paycheck,” Nicole says. “Part of it is my husband’s compensation, which has a huge bonus component. We try to save as much of it as we can, if not all of it. We definitely know we are doing well and very fortunate, but it’s a struggle and a compromise today to save for the future.”


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
bullshit


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Saving money


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't living paycheck to paycheck


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[30-Oct-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You dumbfuck bimbo


[30-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
they simply don't understand. No frame of reference.


[30-Oct-19 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
paycheck to paycheck is "do I buy protein this month, or pay my due rent?"


[30-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
> Private preschool (for two children): $33,288


[30-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[30-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
just, this article is bullshit


[30-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's trying to justify wastefulness


[30-Oct-19 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Preschool can be helpful, but surely you could find a cheaper one


[30-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some districts have preschool I think


[30-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it's an extreme of ignorance.


[30-Oct-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
like, I can genuinly believe there's no malice here. It's not nessesary.


[30-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
malicious ignorance


[30-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much.


[30-Oct-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"He or she will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue,” the rough transcript cites Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as saying."


[30-Oct-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
According to Vindman, would have been more accurate to name Burisma directly


[30-Oct-19 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Didn't Trump accidentally call Zelenskyy the president of russia the other day


[30-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[30-Oct-19 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  btw I agree that the family is wasteful; just posted it since I remembered about it when you post about that rich person needing more money pic


[30-Oct-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's also repeatedly called it "The Ukraine"


[30-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of americans call it "the ukraine" for some reason


[30-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's what the USSR called it


[30-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
I think it dates back to when ukraine was a part of the soviet union or something


[30-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
because it's called the ukraine peninsula


[30-Oct-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To make sure people understood it was a region of the union and not a nation


[30-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it Zelenskyy, Zelensky, or Zelenskiy?


[30-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cyrillic definitely has a standardized translation system


[30-Oct-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelensky (officially Zelenskyy; Ukrainian: Володи́мир Олекса́ндрович Зеле́нський)


[30-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/politics/vindman-testimony-whistleblower-identity/index.html

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Democrats and Republicans got into a shouting match behind closed doors on Tuesday while interviewing a witness in the impeachment investigation, with Democrats accusing Republicans of trying to out the anonymous whistleblower who sparked the impeachment inquiry, according to...
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[30-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
apparently republicans on the house intelligence committee are trying to identify the whistleblower by process of elimination


[30-Oct-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Getting what they want


[30-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
actually I doubt that, since, to the best of my knowledge, whenever USSR referred to any of their republic at all, instead of a 'we' of some sort, it was always just... Well, in russian that would ACTUALLY be USSR (cause the basic acronym would be CCCP, for Союз), but Ukraininan SSR for foreign purposes.


[30-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They want to have someone they can say was on Clinton's campaign committee or was once photographed shaking Obama's hand


[30-Oct-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
and we do have an actual 'Ukrainian peninsula' so it would be confusing too


[30-Oct-19 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah there was the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (a mouthful even in acronym form), which was equivalent to the modern day Russian Federation


[30-Oct-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
> Tensions over the whistleblower's identity have been building in the depositions. Two sources described a pattern of GOP questioning -- over the course of several of the depositions -- that appeared designed to try to identify the whistleblower through the course of asking witnesses and putting into the deposition record the names of various government officials involved that may fit the professional description that has been made public of the individual.


[30-Oct-19 12:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
actually one of Nunes' aides is going around trying to tell people who it is


[30-Oct-19 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and the various Soviet Socialist Republics (Ukraine, the Baltic states, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, etc) which were constituent members of the federation, on paper equal with Russia


[30-Oct-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that.


[30-Oct-19 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was passing notes like crazy during Dr. Hill's deposition


[30-Oct-19 12:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, isn't Schiff set to name the whistleblower at some point, anyway? I think he said he planned to when the time was right


[30-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[30-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of this bitching reminds me of Mulvaney's comments


[30-Oct-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elections have consequences


[30-Oct-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want it now, now, now so the have someone to smear


[30-Oct-19 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and possibly assassinate...


[30-Oct-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Btw, mark your calendars - the guy testifying Nov. 6th is the last claim in the whistleblower complaint that hasn't been corroborated by official documents or firsthand testimony


[30-Oct-19 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
everything else *has*


[30-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
> Zelensky


[30-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the standard I think


[30-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, Crow linked that already too.


[30-Oct-19 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Every official document, including the opening statements from Taylor and Vindman, spell it with two Ys


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
would be convenient if I could remember Зеле́нський


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It may be a "both are right" thing


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ZelenskyyyyyyyyyyyyyyiyiyiyiyiyyyyyyyyyyYIFF

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[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
owo


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Get out


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not that familiar with cyrillic letters unfortunately


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I know "no u" and some slurs


[30-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cyka Blyat


[30-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no 100% consensus. And often when people try to trasnslate their own names, they spell it differently at different times (bonus points for them trying to register somewhere again, after they forgot the previous account)


[30-Oct-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
in russian that is


[30-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony what is the claim?


[30-Oct-19 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
a cyrillic qwerty board would be helpful


[30-Oct-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I'm seeing a lot of people focusing on people saying that all of this testimony is just opinion about what happened


[30-Oct-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If we've got six people all with the same opinion of the events they saw well


[30-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also we've got two Democrats that will not vote for the thing in Thursday or impeachment itself


[30-Oct-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
why aren't they voting?


[30-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disagree with impeachment entirely


[30-Oct-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only five have taken no stance, all fragile seats


[30-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/29/boeing-737-max-ceo-dennis-muilenberg-testify-congress-testimony-crash/2495018001/

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Boeing CEO says he knew about test pilot's warnings before second ...
Boeing's CEO Dennis Muilenburg defended the aerospace company's safety inspection system in Senate testimony Tuesday, despite two 737 Max crashes.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/10/29/USAT/b3ad0f9b-6f51-46e2-b925-21f203cf1f11-DSC09532.jpg?crop=1999,1124,x1,y209&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[30-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
> He also disclosed he was notified before the second crash of a test pilot's signal of "egregious" problems with the Max's flight control system, now believed to be at fault in the plane's two crashes.


[30-Oct-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MAX is like if EA designed a plane


[30-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Poor design, poor programming to make up for that design, DLC to fix things


[30-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the highest levels of boeing knew that the plane was a piece of shit, but they released it anyway in the name of profits


[30-Oct-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
fucking neoliberalism man


[30-Oct-19 12:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
everything asserted in the report has been confirmed as true with one exception: "Mr. T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, also listened in on the call". That has not been confirmed, but Mr. Brechbuhl is scheduled to testify to the House investigating committees on Nov. 6. @byte[]


[30-Oct-19 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd link an article detailing the claims in the report and how they have been corroborated but it's on NYT and I am not playing games with that paywall


[30-Oct-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democracy Dies Behind a Paywall


[30-Oct-19 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sounds ominous


[30-Oct-19 01:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a play on Washington Post's tagline, "Democracy Dies in Darkness"


[30-Oct-19 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
credited to wapo editor Bob Woodward


[30-Oct-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting stat: this is the first primary season since 1972 where no candidate has had percentages this small


[30-Oct-19 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Sanders is the front runner basically tied with Warren and both only have like 30%


[30-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The decision to have an abortion should be between a woman and her health care provider, free from government interference.'


[30-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the kind of rhetoric we need more of.


[30-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Steyer has spent _seven times_ the amount as the Trump campaign in advertising


[30-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are dirty two-faced liars


[30-Oct-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it needs to be spelled out to idiots.


[30-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And in Brexit news another general election


[30-Oct-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If May couldn't Brexit and Johnson couldn't, why do people think anyone could?


[30-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't to get Brexit


[30-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit will be a disaster.


[30-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I almost want Corbyn to win so a second referendum happens


[30-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to keep delaying while slowly draining away funds for what progressives like


[30-Oct-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they can delay long enuff without losing an election outright, they can destroy the NHS


[30-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You act like these people hav an endgoal, Its


[30-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
*They're reactionaries*


[30-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them a win looks like 20 years of nothing changing.


[30-Oct-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
As society very slowly, inevitably, decomposes.


[30-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically want to set Britain on course for the premise of V for Vendetta


[30-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they look up and are like "wtf why does the younger gen want socialism?!"


[30-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
BURGUNDY PASSPORTS GENTS


[30-Oct-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY ARE YOU NOT PLEASED?


[30-Oct-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one made them make their passports blue


[30-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about feeling like you're in control.


[30-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you always technically were


[30-Oct-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the narrative must be that you were not, and that you hav just now broken free


[30-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
People nowadays love the concept of being freed


[30-Oct-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you twist things to sound like freedom as you slowly destroy actual freedoms.


[30-Oct-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/28/missouri-cop-19-m-anti-gay-discrimination-suit/2487196001/

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Missouri police officer awarded $19M in discrimination suit after ...
Sgt. Keith Wildhaber sued St. Louis County in Missouri after he was told he would never be promoted because of his sexuality. He won $19 million.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/10/28/USAT/d875a1a5-d335-4ce0-a569-7c91169d4ebc-AP_Gay_Officer_Lawsuit.JPG?crop=2999,1687,x0,y0&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[30-Oct-19 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
19m? damn son


[30-Oct-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
it's good to be gay obv


[30-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
can anyone describe to me what kind of economy nazi germany had?


[30-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
all I can tell is that it seemed to be like some kind of half-baked state capitalist economy


[30-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
that mainly ran off of liquidating the assets of people sent to the concentration camps


[30-Oct-19 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah part of the problem is that once he filed the complaint with the federal discrimination agency, they reassigned him from a city where at most you pull soccer moms over for speeding to the midnight shift in a super high crime neighborhood


[30-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
From what I've read, it was a lot like America, but Hitler gave workers generous vacation time and a lot of stuff got incorporated into the state, especially in Vichy France.


[30-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/638867528814297098/EIE1ZCzUEAA7B7D.png

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[30-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
I ran into this image and was refuting it point by point


[30-Oct-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then it went to shit cause of the war, as they lost all their imports of tar and such.


[30-Oct-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler didn't want a heavily regulated economy.


[30-Oct-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, some major level of regulations was already the norm


[30-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go bakk a hundred years prior, and the very *idea* of privatized national-scale businesses barely existed.


[30-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything was either regional or gov't-run.


[30-Oct-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(mostly regional, like medicine)


[30-Oct-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential N...
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/images/realclearpolitics_social_logo.png


[30-Oct-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
why did warren have a sudden drop and biden have a sudden rise?


[30-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
october 7, warren was .2 points above biden, then october 13, biden was 6.2 points above warren


[30-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could be a spurious problem with polling.


[30-Oct-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like a particular poll wasn't around right then.


[30-Oct-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden was in the news a lot because of his son, then people stopped caring as more Trump news came in, at the same time Warren kept getting grilled over health insurance costs


[30-Oct-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-irs-tried-to-hide-emails-that-show-tax-industry-influence-over-free-file-program

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The IRS Tried to Hide Emails That Show Tax Industry Influence Over...
After ProPublica sued the IRS, the agency released emails that show it has allowed the tax preparation industry to write the rules.


[30-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact


[30-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US soldier Sean O’Shea, who guarded Saddam Hussein after he was captured in 2003, said that the only time Saddam ever looked defeated in prison was when they brought him the wrong cereal. He would cry out “No Fruit Loops!”


[30-Oct-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broken clock

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[30-Oct-19 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[30-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saddam loved doritos


[30-Oct-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
bin Laden had Naruto videos on his computer


[30-Oct-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
doritos cereal


[30-Oct-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/VYMJ1Bi

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https://i.imgur.com/7KVKVxOh.jpg


[30-Oct-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/WENeugQ.png

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https://i.imgur.com/WENeugQ.jpg


[30-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jtYT5COvU

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Kamerad Korona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jtYT5COvU
"Marching Through Georgia" - Union Civil War Song
*atlanta heard burning in the distance*
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H-jtYT5COvU/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
obligatory


[30-Oct-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
> William "you keep their chains, you get the flames" Sherman


[30-Oct-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then come the "but there never was any one 'confederate' flag and they didn't march under that one" arguments which...are kinda half true-ish


[30-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Sherman, ironically, hated this song because it always played in his presence. It followed him wherever he went.


[30-Oct-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Yep. He hated it because A: he never took pleasure in a defeated enemy, and B: it was played at every public event he went to.


[30-Oct-19 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's an argument in defense of the flag that makes no sense to me at all because, first, they *did* use that flag, and second, *it's still celebrating the confederacy*


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't to justify the flag, it's to confuse people so that they can't mount an effective attakk.


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/politics/greg-walden-retirement-2020/index.html


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
🦀 🔥 🦀


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
> the 15th GOPer retiring from the House without seeking another office at the end of 2020.


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
holy shit


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the top Republican in the House is retiring.


[30-Oct-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't realize it was that many


[30-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He claims it has nothing to do with how the GOP is going to lose hard


[30-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy's on a powerful committee, with time left to be on it, in a noncompetitive district.


[30-Oct-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe it doesn't and he just has a shred of tegridy left


[30-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very unlikely


[30-Oct-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's too connected to retain integrity.


[30-Oct-19 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Self-preservation is near enough the same thing when all other morals are lacking


[30-Oct-19 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it'll occasionally lead to the right choices


[30-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yeah, Republicans were retiring in spades last election cycle too


[30-Oct-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a sign of a dying party


[30-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/retirement-congress-2020-hurd-alexander/596965/

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The 2020 Congressional-Retirement Tracker
Representative Greg Walden of Oregon became one of the most senior House Republicans to announce he would not seek reelection next year.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2019/10/retirement_tracker_3/facebook.jpg?1572287888


[30-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
TEXODUS


[30-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems especially, minorities and women are fleeing the GOP


[30-Oct-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guess they're realizing that being seen destroying their own people is a bad look.


[30-Oct-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
texas is going purple


[30-Oct-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
(because of dallas and houston, but still)


[30-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Elijah Cummings, the one Dem who died in office, is likely to be succeeded by his widow in office.


[30-Oct-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
how old is she


[30-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
48


[30-Oct-19 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
20 years younger


[30-Oct-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
that's kinda creepy


[30-Oct-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well she was 37 when she married him and people basically stop developing after 25 so I don't really think so.


[30-Oct-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meh, everything after 20 is fine


[30-Oct-19 03:13 AM] jlun2#8758
20 x 100 tbh


[30-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
15 x 2000


[30-Oct-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pistachio x Discord shipping.


[30-Oct-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively, Where the Apple Lies but it's story-based time travel and AJ makes Filthy yeet his wife into a volcano for her sweet ass.


[30-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh the GOP knows that they're not getting the House back


[30-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a part of a strategy to defend Collins, Murkowski, Tillis, Gardner, McSally, and Ernst in the Senate.


[30-Oct-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Focus the energy there


[30-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should make the Senate like Canada's


[30-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because if Trump gets elected but all of these super vulnerable seats go blue welp


[30-Oct-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
appointed, and preferably with non-partisan appointees.


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So like how some states appoint judges?


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed how many states have elected judges


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statewide elections just mean the South gets way too many seats.


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like that seems like an inherently bad idea.


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is.


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Recalls are a bad idea too


[30-Oct-19 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
people praise Cali cause the judge in question was sentencing a pervert but like


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
that judge was just applying the same standards he always does


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh it happened in Missouri recently


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it was because the judge was incompetent basically


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
being lenient so people can actually REFORM instead of become hardened criminals in prison


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you mean another judge?


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, the fundamental problem is


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
populism leads to harshness


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously, her husband is Chief Justice of the Missouri Supreme Court


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's what got us all this bullshit with people who steal a glove getting 10 years in jail to begin with.


[30-Oct-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and his wife got kicked out in a retention election


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you need is like, a well-educated populace


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
electing people who then choose qualified appointees


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Already I'm going to stop you there


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but cannot directly benefit from them.


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having an educated populace alone doesn't get you shit


[30-Oct-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you can somewhat do things without one


[30-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you completely remove the populace from the equation, it just descends into dictatorship


[30-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the technocrats will always prefer to get money directly than for it to go to the people.


[30-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need the populace there to keep resources better to be distributed.


[30-Oct-19 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I thought capitalism itself was the best way to distribute resources


[30-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why we have what,  a $1 billion dollar a year pet costume industry


[30-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism in its purest form is just feudalism with less protections for slaves and less warfare.


[30-Oct-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And way faster changes.


[30-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, it's the breaknekk speed of capitalism that's what makes it work so well economically to begin with.


[30-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's just like a fast metabolism in an organism


[30-Oct-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually you get tumors


[30-Oct-19 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Move fast and break things" Mark says, as he lets Russia take control of the GOP


[30-Oct-19 03:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPp7llitQ0

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Akkad Daily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPp7llitQ0
AI Finds Minorities to be Most Racist
But then, the AI itself is racist, so it would say that, wouldn't it? Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/profile/JnQkBKkHmwuP/ Follow me on Tele...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0RPp7llitQ0/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh look more YT vids to scream about the latest thing instead of just lay out the facts.


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, completely in line with expectations.


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire way that oppression works isn't to do with outnumbering a population


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about making the target population turn on itself


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
AI finds marked outliers are easiest to categorize due to lower numbers leading to higher ratings


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
that's sargon of akkad


[30-Oct-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wow etc


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
out of a fear of being hurt by you


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The king has 2000 space dollars


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
there are 30 peasants each with 1 space dollar


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is willing to reward 2 space dollars to anyone who brings him the head of a traitor


[30-Oct-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 30 peasants could team up and not build his precious castle


[30-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But instead, 2 of them go after the 3 who were plotting


[30-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minorities are in an even worse position


[30-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they're outnumbered


[30-Oct-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
For this analogy, of those 30 peasants, 5 are red


[30-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The remaining blue peasants are suspicious of the red peasants


[30-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And are eager to prove them to be traitors


[30-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the red peasants must constantly bow down and say they support the king


[30-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and will readily turn on each other


[30-Oct-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and talk ill of the blues


[30-Oct-19 03:44 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/style/ok-boomer.html

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‘OK Boomer’ Marks the End of Friendly Generational Relations
Now it’s war: Gen Z has finally snapped over climate change and financial inequality.


[30-Oct-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like people forget that Boomers were also hippies


[30-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them were not hippies.


[30-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The silent majority was real.


[30-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people loved Nixon.


[30-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that killing brown people and liberals in foreign countries is wrong makes them recoil in horror.


[30-Oct-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, hippies and Bernie Sanders existed among them.


[30-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But were by no means the majority.


[30-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The majority was more like Trump.


[30-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, @Itsthinking


[30-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interracial marriage and gay marriage are not the same in how society changed.


[30-Oct-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interracial marriage gained popular support in the *90s*


[30-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Loooong after it became legal.


[30-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Popular opinion changed much faster on gay marriage and legal weed.


[30-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PBS almost got defunded over an Arthur spinoff


[30-Oct-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials really did just plain leave the old ideas behind.


[30-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Civil rights law may hav been the law


[30-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it was unpopular.


[30-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in the 60s were racist fukkwads by and large.


[30-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hippies were seen as evil because they weren't all fukkwads who judged you on a million different things the moment they saw you.


[30-Oct-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of even *considering* peace and love broadly was abhorrent.


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly this all makes me think that Libertarians were called "gay weed Republicans"


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A majority of people don't mind gays or weed


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So what's left for them


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something 538 noted with the 2018 state level stuff


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In many states, weed became legal, minimum wage went up, etc.


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberal ideas passed by and large on ballot measures


[30-Oct-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans won political offices in the same states


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
While campaigning directly against what people voted for.


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
the GOP wins not because its platform is especially popular


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wins out of fear


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
fear of lawmakes enacting change ahead of what people want


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh that was Missouri. Rejected right to work, got medical marijuana, raised minimum wage


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of behind


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But went ruby red


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just Missouri


[30-Oct-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida did the same thing


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida gave ex-felons the right to vote


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
while electing a Republican governor and senator


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who would most assuredly destroy said right


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about fear.


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley is basically a more restrained Jim Jordan/Matt Gaetz


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fear is, liberals in office will say that X is right, and pass X


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
while it's still at 40% support


[30-Oct-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
a conservative in office will instead hav to be forced to do it long after it reached 60% support


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, voters want politicians who will fight them tooth and nail for change


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because voters right now are scared of minorities.


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, legitimately amazed that Gaetz or Jordan think they have a shot at the presidency in 2024. I mean why else would they act the way they do


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll be fetching coffee for Trump Jr. or Ivanka come January 2024.


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's something like


[30-Oct-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
sure we'd get gay weed under Dems


[30-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they'd let 1 muslim person in WHO IS ALSO TRANS


[30-Oct-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And would BOMB OUR CHILDREN'S GENITALS INTO PUSSIES


[30-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Meanwhile, corporate America pollutes the water with hormones that cause boys to grow up with titties, or outright sells medications that cause such.*


[30-Oct-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, fukk the South.


[30-Oct-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even when they're being mostly reasonable they just shit all over things because they're worried that equality will be achieved.


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Trump can't win reelection.


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if his poll numbers massively jumped and he was facing the worst Dem candidate running


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh given the fact that it's gonna be Warren or Sanders, sure


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Florida gave voting rights to ex-felons*


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was worried with Biden


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
like 3 million people


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of whom are blakk


[30-Oct-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hav been waiting for decades to kikk Republicans the fukk out.


[30-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida will be solid blue on election day 2020.


[30-Oct-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump winning without Florida is a hell of a longshot.


[30-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the decisive states will be Florida and Arizona, plus PA


[30-Oct-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Might be the first time Ohio doesn't decide it


[30-Oct-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Might be losing bellwether status like Missouri did.


[30-Oct-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The abandonment of the state is weird to me, because you literally only need one or two more counties to flip the state


[30-Oct-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are losing their financial support I think.


[30-Oct-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
sooner or later Charles Koch will fucking die


[30-Oct-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Asking for completely hypothetical reasons but if McConnell goes, who decides his replacement


[30-Oct-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
the state of Kentucky of course


[30-Oct-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what, just snap election while his body's still in repose?


[30-Oct-19 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I meant, like, in terms of the position of the senate majority leader


[30-Oct-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
dunno


[30-Oct-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans vote on it I think


[30-Oct-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the leaders in the senate were originally just informal designations with no real power beyond what the party gave them


[30-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
all of the official power that the senate majority leader currently wields was originally meant for the VP who was supposed to be the leader of the senate


[30-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
and afaik there's nothing in the constitution preventing the VP from just coming in and reclaiming all that power


[30-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[30-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
imagine Warren gets elected


[30-Oct-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Bernie as VP


[30-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
he comes storming into the Senate and grabs whatever ceremonial item Mitch McConnell has


[30-Oct-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And just starts deciding on what gets voted on etc.


[30-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be a hell of a power move.


[30-Oct-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the republicans would nominate a really shitty pro temp in response


[30-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Mitch?


[30-Oct-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's still a downgrade for him.


[30-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_pro_tempore_of_the_United_States_Senate>


[30-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
current one is chuck grassley


[30-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
never heard of him


[30-Oct-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's really shitty.


[30-Oct-19 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's the third position in line for the presidency


[30-Oct-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, if Trump went out and Pence did too very rapidly, Pelosi would be president, with Grassley as VP.


[30-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally tho when VP takes over as president they select whoever they want as VP


[30-Oct-19 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if Trump suddenly died, Pence wouldn't hav Pelosi as VP


[30-Oct-19 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
that seems to be a constitutional oversight


[30-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[30-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Originally, VP was the 2nd place finisher of the presidential election


[30-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this was never codified


[30-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
so presidents just started pikking their VP before the election


[30-Oct-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And consequently, anyone who assumed presidency pikked their VP as well


[30-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the original intent was for the winner to be the leader of the executive branch, and the runner-up to be the leader of one half of the legislative branch


[30-Oct-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
that was amended out because it was too problematic


[30-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's a saner way of doing things


[30-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine knowing your greatest rival has to help you run things


[30-Oct-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
are you gonna run a really shitty campaign of shitting on them?


[30-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean we've eroded the entire constitution at this point


[30-Oct-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the executive has unchecked uncontrolled authority, the legislative isn't working, the judicial is effectively controlled by the executive


[30-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judicial isn't controlled yet


[30-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is really important


[30-Oct-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Gorsuch admitted he is "scared of Trump's base"


[30-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're the ones keeping the executive down right now.


[30-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like we wouldn't be in this mess if the runner-up was the VP with all of its power still


[30-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If either Warren or Sanders get picked they will absolutely pick a moderate.


[30-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which basically means Mayor Pete is guaranteed a VP slot


[30-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Klobuchar


[30-Oct-19 05:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
this is assuming of course your rival once made vp doesn't try to undermine you


[30-Oct-19 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't imagine it'd be worse than what we have now


[30-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_United_States_presidential_election

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1968 United States presidential election
The 1968 United States presidential election  was the 46th quadrennial presidential election. It was held on Tuesday, November 5, 1968. The Republican nominee, former Vice President Richard Nixon, defeated the Democratic nominee, incumbent Vice President Hubert Humphrey. Anal...
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[30-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Humphrey

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Hubert Humphrey
Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (May 27, 1911 – January 13, 1978) was an American politician who served as the 38th vice president of the United States from 1965 to 1969. He twice served in the United States Senate, representing Minnesota from 1949 to 1964 and 1971 to 1978. He ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Hubert_Humphrey_vice_presidential_portrait.jpg/1200px-Hubert_Humphrey_vice_presidential_portrait.jpg


[30-Oct-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
this dude would've been VP


[30-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
oh, he was the VP


[30-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
what


[30-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris will not even be VP


[30-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
oh no


[30-Oct-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
he was the 38th VP


[30-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine if he had become the 39th VP, he wouldn't've pardoned Nixon.


[30-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is like, the whole point


[30-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your rival will work with you when he needs to, but won't bend over for you.


[30-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
he was the 38th VP under the 36th president (LBJ)


[30-Oct-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon should hav spent the rest of his life in jail.


[30-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
so should most of his cabinet


[30-Oct-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
they were using the office to enrich themselves


[30-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
richard nixon was the 37th president


[30-Oct-19 05:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I think pardoning nixon was the right call though.
the country was already in dire straits from Nam and Watergate. putting Nixon on trial would've made things worse


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
um


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
both of those were caused by nixon


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
ummmmmmmmmmmmmm


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the same argument LBJ made for why to disregard Nixon's treason


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon's act of treason btw


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nixon did not start nam


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
DUDE


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
nixon sabotaged the war in vietnam dude


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Listen for a moment


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hubert Humphrey


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
under LBJ


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
was doing negotations


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
for a peace treaty


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
NIXON SABOTAGED IT


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
a week before the election


[30-Oct-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
causing Hubert's support to drop


[30-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
causing Hubert to lose


[30-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hubert was projected to win prior to negotiations falling apart


[30-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon caused us to stay in Nam longer


[30-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ reasoned that revealing Nixon's treason would divide the country


[30-Oct-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so swept it under the rug


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
which resulted in Nixon being a corrupt president


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

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When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election
It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told.
https://static.politico.com/f7/da/ca51bb624ad69277ffaf883c931f/nixon-thieu.jpg


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
who kept us in Nam quite a while before resuming the same negotiations he'd broken that Hubert was doing.


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk all these fake arguments of 'unity'


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If calling out a traitor will divide the country, **so be it**


[30-Oct-19 05:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Nixon had it delayed. but who's to say the treaty would've gone through anyhow. up until this point they had gone to the table many times with almost a deal and it fell through. So its hard to say with 100% certainty if this would've turned out the same way or not.  Maybe they would've gotten a treaty or maybe not.


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but the war. in and of itself was not Nixon's fault


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy fukking committed TREASON


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make a war happen longer


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk your in and of itself


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter if it went through or not


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's bullshit


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
he sabotaged it


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was a chance at peace


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
to win the election


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
he completely removed the entire chance of peace


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to personally win an election


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is NOT defensible


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and NOT something that should ever just be swept under the rug cause of "muh division"


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the country's unity


[30-Oct-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
this is the same sort of bullshit stalin used to place himself at the head of the USSR


[30-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to keep the country unified at all times literally burned children to death in the jungles


[30-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same old fascist rallying cry


[30-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
UNITY


[30-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as we slaughter innocents because of corrupt leadership


[30-Oct-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
who want nothing more than to line their own pokkets


[30-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon should've gone to jail for being a FUKKING TRAITOR


[30-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not given the presidency and then pardonned when he kept doing scummy shit.


[30-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was absolute pond scum of the highest order.


[30-Oct-19 05:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Did Nixon not scale down the troops after he got elected though? Did he not try to switch over operations to Arvan? Did he not enact high altitude bombings and used that as a threat to keep North Vietnam to stay true to their end of the bargain?


[30-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
what the FUKK


[30-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon bombed Cambodia and Laos


[30-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes and?


[30-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the fukk are you trying to twist him into the good guy here?


[30-Oct-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy did shit that made the war WORSE


[30-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Cambodian bombing led to the rise of Pol Pot


[30-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, my mom used to think nixon was an utter piece of shit, but now defends him as being an innocent casualty of rampant democratic attempts to seize power


[30-Oct-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
POL. POT.


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon was an absolutely disgusting person who only even *allowed* peace talks because it made him look good later on.


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
I think some of the far-right talking heads are starting to defend nixon because he was the last republican impeached


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He greatly worsened the conflict and indirectly caused a fukking genocide


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
and comparing him to trump


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the NVA and Viet Kong had been operating out of Laos and Cambodia for most of the war. Conditions were steadly getting worse in Cambodia after the military took over Cambodia in response to the royal prince's inaction against the Viet Kong and Pol Pot's communist cell.


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are talking about a guy


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
who committed treason


[30-Oct-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
to prevent peace


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a brutal war


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the conditions of Cambodia were already leading to bad to worse.


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
for personal gain


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
who then went and bombed other countries that got involved


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he suggested the deal to be delayed as he felt he could strike a better bargan


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
"heh, things are getting pretty bad, better just add a couple more bombs to make it worse, heheheheh"


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
that worsened things


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
causing one of the worst genocides in modern history


[30-Oct-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
OH BUT HE ALSO LATER REDID PEACE TALKS SO IT'S OKAY


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
there was no better bargain for vietnam than peace


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND HE EVENTUALLY PULLED TROOPS OUT


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if I go and shoot up a school


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
and also, that's a very neoliberal mindset


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and kill every child in there


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
are you saying Nixon is at fault for what Pol Pot did?
Cause Pol Pot is at fault for what Pol Pot did.


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
but later I decide that another school should be bailed out of debt


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm a good guy.


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And shouldn't go to jail.


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, that old tactic


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what you are saying is


[30-Oct-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon isn't at fault for the war continuing


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
because there were other factors there


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Pol Pot is completely at fault for the genocide


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho there were other factors there


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
He is at fault for delaying treaty talks for what I think was close to a month.


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
:ponythinking:


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It almost seems like you're willing to change on a dime to protect Nixon here


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
a guy who committed treason to continue a war


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
though i will have to check again.


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
to be sure on the dates


[30-Oct-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then bombed countries to shit without actually declaring war on them or such


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
we entered vietnam without a declaration of war


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remind me why this says Nixon shouldn't hav gone to jail?


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu

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Operation Menu
Operation Menu was a covert United States Strategic Air Command (SAC) bombing campaign conducted in eastern Cambodia from 18 March 1969 until 26 May 1970 as part of both the Vietnam War and the Cambodian Civil War. The targets of these attacks were sanctuaries and Base Areas ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/B-5222.jpg


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, he committed a crime


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then committed more crimes


[30-Oct-19 05:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
we refused to invade the north even though it would'ved ended the war much sooner


[30-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and his crimes were in the furtherance of evil shit


[30-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is he not a piece of shit?


[30-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freedom_Deal

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Operation Freedom Deal
Operation Freedom Deal was a United States Seventh Air Force interdiction and close air support campaign waged in Cambodia, a neutral country, between 19 May 1970 and 15 August 1973, as an expansion of the Vietnam War, as well as the Cambodian Civil War. Launched by Richard N...


[30-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if you are trying to find someone most at fault for the Vietnam War look at LBJ


[30-Oct-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not trying to find someone most at fault for the Vietnam War.


[30-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
his policies set the stage for the terrible conditions that we'd later find ourselves in


[30-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm arguing that a person who committed treason to make the war last longer and then further destabilized the region despite warnings it would cause problems should hav gone to fukking jail for doing horrible shit.


[30-Oct-19 05:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and i'm arguing that both of those countries were already destabilizing before then.


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it's okay mom, the crippled kid was already in a wheelchair


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
you don't actually care that nixon committed treason, do you?


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
sawing his legs off in front of the other kids isn't wrong.


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what?


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he already had a bruise on his face, punching him isn't wrong.


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
who's sawing who's legs off


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an analogy


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it takes the reasoning of your argument


[30-Oct-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
removes its pretty dress


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and shoves it up against a situation that's easier to reason about


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"oh this country was already unstable, what's a few thousand civilian deaths more?"


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
etc.


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
you don't care that a republican betrayed the US, I'm not sure if it's because he's a republican or you don't want to admit you're wrong


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't seem to care about anything bad he did, for that matter.


[30-Oct-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're clearly trying to find reasons to dismiss it all.


[30-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Nixon should hav gone to jail.**


[30-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Alright. So let's say you are looking at a battle map and you have regular reports of enemy movements and camps in a neighboring country that the host country is either unable or unwilling to deal with. and these camps and troops regularly attack your men and supplies.
what would you do?


[30-Oct-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, you ask your generals and your foreign policy advisors


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they tell you it's a huge risk that could cause serious problems


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you **don't do anything about it**


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and what if your generals say to go after them?


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you further consider your options


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and your advisors warn of the dangers of the domino theory


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going after things isn't a blanket yes/no


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
for example


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could send in troops to do very targeted operations


[30-Oct-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
bombings by their nature were not very targeted at the time


[30-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
bombings cause collateral damage


[30-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and were likely the *worst* option


[30-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they were more pin point than they were in ww2 but go on


[30-Oct-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
bombings cause serious damage to the local economy which can result in less stability which can result in the nation turning to the communists


[30-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
(remind me again Pol Pot's political persuasion...)


[30-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, WW2 bombing had literally destroying whole cities as a common goal


[30-Oct-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, more pinpoint, but still pretty damn messy


[30-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Pol Pot was a communist who wanted to enact a form of pure communism that was true to marx's core beliefs.


[30-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or at least so he professed


[30-Oct-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe if we didn't destabilize countries, they wouldn't fall to nearby potential allies we're enemies with 🤔


[30-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/04/khmer-rouge-cambodian-genocide-united-states/

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Nixon and the Cambodian Genocide
The genocidal rule of the Khmer Rouge began forty years ago this month. Their rise to power was inseparable from US intervention.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/2015/04/17003706/06-1.jpg


[30-Oct-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure Nixon's advisors didn't think "make Cambodia want to turn to another country for aid, like the Soviets or Chinese" was a good idea


[30-Oct-19 05:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I have a college test to go to in 5 mins. But back to my original point. I think pardoning Nixon was the right call due to the conditions and circumstances of the time. agree or disagree the country was already heavily divided on nixon, the war, and failing state of the country. Nixon himself had already resigned and so the argument could be made that since he was already out of office a trial would've done nothing but be a punitive show trial that would've harmed the people's desire to heal and move on.


[30-Oct-19 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Again with the unity crap


[30-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
unity? would you rather have the divisions in the country be further split?


[30-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
riots were already a regular thing in the cities


[30-Oct-19 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
a trial would've made things worse


[30-Oct-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Unity is _never_ more important than justice


[30-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
the riots were caused by the vietnam war, which nixon perpetuated


[30-Oct-19 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
if anything, it would've calmed them down


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascist strategy 101


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause a crisis


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
blame it on someone else


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
persecute them


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
refuse to take the blame because "my ouster would reduce unity"


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
putting him on trial would've cause a new crisis or perpetuated the current ones.


[30-Oct-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Continue to cause the very divisions used as a reasoning to prevent "loss of unity"


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting him on trial would not hav created any crisis


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was no longer the president


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and how can you say that with certainty?


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
To cause a crisis, his allies would've had to undermine things


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but most in the senate had turned against him


[30-Oct-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so his allies would be easily stopped


[30-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no indication a trial would've caused a crisis.


[30-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i disagree


[30-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've made some people unhappy, sure, but he was already out of office and the vast majority of the populace was against him after that.


[30-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Trump does shit that up to 60% of Americans hate extremely, almost every week


[30-Oct-19 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he still had 50% popularity the month he resigned


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's no sudden, like, rebellions


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and was still popular within the military brass


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and officer corps


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military follows the president's orders.


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Who cares if he was popular; he was a criminal


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the law


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military would not stage a rebellion to protect a criminal just because they liked such.


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Criminals need to face justice


[30-Oct-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not without orders from the current president.


[30-Oct-19 05:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
look a president on trial would've made things worse. it would divide people. we already had riots. and tensions among people in the early to mid 70s was pretty high


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
um


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
did you just repeat exactly the same thing you just said like 5 minutes ago


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
going in circles doesn't help your case


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also those riots were over like


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because i don't know how to explain it


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
massive societal changes being implemented


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
better than i have


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and people being beat up for their race


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Unity is never more important than justice


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
a white guy, even a powerful one, on trial, is not comparable


[30-Oct-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
okay let me put it this way.


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sure, I guess we shouldn't've passed civil rights law


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
It's okay to be divisive if being divisive means you deal with a fucking traitor


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
look at how devided people are with Trump right now


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
or ruled Brown v Board of Education the same way


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is a criminal too


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because that would reduce precious unity.


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
That should not preclude him being locked up


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Ever


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If at every turn, you try to protect unity


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
now imagine how devided people would be if the president was more popular and put on trial


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and don't go after traitors to the nation


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
In fact, he should be right now, but the Democrats are taking their sweet ass time


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and don't fix shit that's broken


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you get the picture?


[30-Oct-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
all you end up doing is make things worse.


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nope doesn't look like it


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
welp i'm out


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
> now imagine how devided people would be if the president was more popular and put on trial


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It doesn't matter how divided they are


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
That's what we keep saying


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/25/how-the-watergate-crisis-eroded-public-support-for-richard-nixon/

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From the archives: How the Watergate crisis eroded public support ...
In this 2014 post, we explore how Americans’ views of former president Richard Nixon shifted negative amid the Watergate scandal.
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/FT_19.09.25_NixonResignation.jpg


[30-Oct-19 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
um


[30-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
he had a 24% approval rating when he resigned


[30-Oct-19 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
It's _PERFECTLY FINE_ to be divisive if being divisive means you imprison an actual goddamn traitor


[30-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://miro.medium.com/max/3600/1*zFfm1XY6QKScT-jK5eJxNg.png

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[30-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Crow#5457
ROFL


[30-Oct-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take division that takes people out of the pucture who committed treason and war crimes to cause even worse war crimes.


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like a good deal to me.


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, you know


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside used the REPUBLICAN approval rating to say that he had a 50% approval rating when he was removed


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I actually care about human lives


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of just caring about some abstract fukking nonsense about WELL WE WOULD BE UPSET


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
that's probably the most blatant case of bad faith we've had in here


[30-Oct-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
seriously, think about what the actual *argument* is for here


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting Nixon on trial COULDN'T be more divisive than enforcing Brown v. Board of Education


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the actual argument is


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bit of protests and angry governors and such


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
is too much in exchange for putting traitors behind bars


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what?


[30-Oct-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So thousands of men, women, and children being bombed to death


[30-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
is apparently of a lower magnitude than a few weeks of people protesting


[30-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
dang it was 24% I got the number mixed up with the republican one


[30-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, to qualify that a bit


[30-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
MAYBE they would've been bombed to death anyways


[30-Oct-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@PollsAndVotes/nixon-watergate-and-partisan-opinion-524c4314d530

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Nixon, Watergate and Partisan Opinion
Nixon’s approval collapsed between Feb and Oct 1973. Steady before, steady after. Revelations & evidence presented in those 9 months, not…
https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*zFfm1XY6QKScT-jK5eJxNg.png


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I generally consider preventing the possible cessation of people being bombed to death to be morally equivalent to bombing them to death


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same logic as like


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
you see someone about to get shot


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you see a way to trip up the shooter with no risk to yourself


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you just keep walking


[30-Oct-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or you actively prevent law enforcement from rushing to him


[30-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would definitely consider someone who slams a brikk over the head of a police officer rushing to stop a sniper from killing civilians to be responsible for those civilians' deaths.


[30-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now multiply that by 100,000


[30-Oct-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and make it win you the lottery


[30-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you use your lottery winnings to destroy the education system of several states


[30-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Nixon.


[30-Oct-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
**FUKK NIXON**


[30-Oct-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/national-security-official-tells-congress-he-tried-add-edits-white-n1073726

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White House memo about Trump's Ukraine call left out details, NSC ...
The proposed edits of the call were to include Trump mentioning possible recordings of Joe Biden discussing corruption in Ukraine and Ukraine’s president mentioning the Burisma gas company specifically.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_44/3075526/191029-alexander-vindman-ac-1040p_aa537e1b82076f7a77d818e49815feed.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[30-Oct-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Vindman testified in a closed-door deposition before House impeachment investigators that the attempted edits were to reflect Trump mentioning possible recordings of former vice president Joe Biden discussing corruption in Ukraine and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy mentioning Bursima, the company who had hired Biden’s son, Hunter, the sources said.


[30-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
> Vindman said he listened in on the July 25 call, and in his opening statement prepared for delivery said he went to the National Security Council lead attorney over his concerns, and that "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."


[30-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
> The Times reported that Vindman tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions. But while some of his edits appeared to have been successful, he said, those two corrections were not made.


[30-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```And then it went to shit cause of the war, as they lost all their imports of tar and such```


[30-Oct-19 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
late to the party, but on german eco.


[30-Oct-19 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
They had severe issues already before the war. Even before 1939. Imports, Romanian production, synthetic oil production didn't cover their needs ever close, but also they were short of food. They war on basicly war economy style since... 33? Or something. I'm actually not sure of the specific reasoning they gave for attacking Poland, although the only nation they had more issues post-WW1 than it was France, probably something about borders redrawn, historical lands taken, as is typical for Europe really.


[30-Oct-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
Anyway, the more land they took the worse the shortages got. Poland, timely surrender, the troops were running out of ammo. France, lucky breakthrough that should not have worked in theory, timely surrender, the army is AGAIN on it's last legs.


[30-Oct-19 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
And in 1941 they had two options. Get crushed by their failing eco or try to get shit elsewhere. 'Elsewhere' in geographical context is Ukraine for food, Caucasus for oil.


[30-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
Instead, German high command went for Moscow. Oopsie daisies.


[30-Oct-19 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
the rest was meatgrinder and history. They more or less lost before they started.


[30-Oct-19 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
How did they exist before '39... Well 20ies were hell, but that was before nazis. Killing undesirables and taking their shit undoubtedly helped with uniting the nation, but it's a drop in the ocean on the nation eco scale.


[30-Oct-19 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
The core Hitler things were, we are one nation, there are parasites among us, they stabbed us in the back in 1918, but aside from that we're united, we all work towards the same goal. To that end they did all sorts of things, support the worker class with like payed vacations and such, implement strict price and wage controls, replace the uncooperative business owners like Junkers (compensated, not with a bullet to the brainpan) with party officials, and so on.


[30-Oct-19 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
Oh, the autarky(chy?) thing. The nation has to be self-sufficient, because of reasons, that was another Hitler thing.


[30-Oct-19 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
Restriction on private foreign trade, it basicly become exclusively state's prerogative. Didn't help with oil/food situation, I imagine.


[30-Oct-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
State capitalism etc.


[30-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well yes and no. The big business owners that supported Hitler largely became state officials, not vice versa.


[30-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not USSR and their 'the most loyal guy will be put in charge this factory'


[30-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
that's state capitalism too


[30-Oct-19 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
just a different method of getting to it


[30-Oct-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/us/ice-taco-truck-trnd/index.html

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A taco truck served ICE workers, apologized, then apologized again
A taco truck is in the middle of a controversy after serving workers at an immigration detention center in Batavia, New York, then apologizing for it, then apologizing for the apology.
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[30-Oct-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[30-Oct-19 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Oct-19 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
You want a real lmao


[30-Oct-19 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
There's one


[30-Oct-19 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
> Industry: Crime

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[30-Oct-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[30-Oct-19 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/638965881551978499


[30-Oct-19 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess now we know what those ... were


[30-Oct-19 01:00 PM] ononim#8141
>crimonals should be properly punished, fuck off with his liberal cuddling bullshit


[30-Oct-19 01:00 PM] ononim#8141
>unless it's a president


[30-Oct-19 01:00 PM] ononim#8141
wew


[30-Oct-19 01:00 PM] ononim#8141

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[30-Oct-19 01:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1189254017505005570

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Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders)
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1189254017505005570
No one was supposed to find out about this. https://t.co/cx4vQtFC28
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[30-Oct-19 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1af297b4625c4dd585274dfaf1c39aeb

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Threat to US elections in 2020 is not limited to Russia
WASHINGTON (AP) — Russia interfered in the 2016 election and may try to sway next year's vote as well. But it's not the only nation with an eye on U.S. politics. American officials sounding...
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[30-Oct-19 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/HYpL8Mn4Tcs

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Louis Rossmann
https://youtu.be/HYpL8Mn4Tcs
Louis DESTROYS CTIA lobbyist with facts & evidence.
👉 Listen to the full, uninterrupted hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHpXJzjin7k 🔵 We fix Macbooks & offer free estimates. https://rossmanngroup...
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[30-Oct-19 02:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.foxnews.com/us/forensic-pathologist-jeffrey-epstein-homicide-suicide

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Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy more consistent with homicidal strangula...
The forensic pathologist hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother to determine his cause of death revealed to "Fox & Friends" in an exclusive interview Wednesday that the autopsy findings are more consistent with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging.
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[30-Oct-19 02:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh my goooosh i am so surprised


[30-Oct-19 02:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/bgwDdAOEA6E

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honker 3d
https://youtu.be/bgwDdAOEA6E
Stupid City - Suicide Hill
Gather round ghouls, it's time to feast upon the rotting carcass of Kansas City, Missouri. Today on Stupid City we delve into the crypt of the heartland for ...
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[30-Oct-19 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That epstein twist though, who could have seen that coming?


[30-Oct-19 03:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the girls he slept with, they could have seen him cumming


[30-Oct-19 03:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[30-Oct-19 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/


[30-Oct-19 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
the website is being ddosed and the github is being ravaged by bots


[30-Oct-19 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
clearly the chinese are angry that some random text editor wants human rights


[30-Oct-19 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
then again, uyghur people aren't humans, so obviously china doesn't need to observe human rights


[30-Oct-19 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
/s


[30-Oct-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/167002467fb642168bcc183d51ee454b

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McConnell: Impeachment measure denies Trump 'basic rights'
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate's top Republican isn't impressed by a Democratic resolution in the House that sets out procedures for a potential impeachment of President Donald Trump. Senate...
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[30-Oct-19 04:18 PM] byte[]#2610
There are no basic rights


[30-Oct-19 04:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh boo hoo


[30-Oct-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knwo those basic rights: immunity to criminal investigation, having a dick sucking turtle, being able to murder on 5th avenue


[30-Oct-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those basic rights


[30-Oct-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/169d6466d7874e6bab3648ea2513b542

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White House launches website aimed at addiction treatment
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration has unveiled a website aimed at helping millions of Americans with substance abuse issues learn about and locate treatment...
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[30-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
stop jailing people for drug use


[30-Oct-19 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
then we can talk


[30-Oct-19 04:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://news.yahoo.com/jeffrey-epsteins-death-likely-homicide-144812501.html

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Jeffrey Epstein's death was 'likely homicide, not suicide', says f...
A famed pathologist says he believes Jeffrey Epstein’s death was actually a homicide, in spite of the official ruling that it was death by suicide.Epstein was found dead in August in New York City, after being arrested for sex trafficking. Since his death, the deceased fina...
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[30-Oct-19 05:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess that's why those "Epstein didn't kill himself" memes have been surfacing in the past few days


[30-Oct-19 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so how long till this pathologist commits "suicide"

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[30-Oct-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/trump-mortified-after-world-series-crowd-starts-booing-1839417630

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Trump Mortified After World Series Crowd Starts Booing, Chanting ...
WASHINGTON—As a chorus of jeers began to fill Nationals Park during Game Five of the World Series, President Donald Trump was reportedly mortified Sunday after the crowd started chanting “Lock him up!” at first lady Melania Trump. “Why would they do that? It’s so me...
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[30-Oct-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jimmykimmel/status/1189153270167564288?s=12

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Jimmy Kimmel (@jimmykimmel)
https://twitter.com/jimmykimmel/status/1189153270167564288?s=12
We mashed up @BarackObama’s Bin Laden speech with @RealDonaldTrump’s al-Baghdadi speech, and the results are amazing https://t.co/Z8yfxSYWLd
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[30-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/oct/28/lindsey-graham/graham-wrong-house-impeachment-inquiry-denies-trum/

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Graham wrong that impeachment denies ‘due process’
Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., introduced a resolution Oct. 24 to condemn House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump. The resolution rebuked the Democratic-led House for interviewing impeachment witnesses behind closed doors and not ho...
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[30-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
that's been a claim that's gained traction over the past week


[30-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
now mcconnell is saying it too


[30-Oct-19 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
of course the dudes who are supposed to know what due process and law are don't actually have any clue of what it is because of incessant propaganda peddling, how could i forget


[30-Oct-19 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-blew-up-an-innocent-mans-house-in-search-of-an-armed-shoplifter-too-bad-court-rules/ar-AAJzs8t?ocid=ientp

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Police blew up an innocent man’s house in search of an armed sho...
“It just goes to show that they can blow up your house, throw you out on the streets and say, 'See you later. Deal with it,'” said the homeowner.


[30-Oct-19 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Judge Dredd is not supposed to be an instruction manual


[30-Oct-19 06:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, let these people know what a grand jury is and their heads will explode.


[30-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/qw6ewzlmonv31.png

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[30-Oct-19 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/34416148925652993

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Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro)
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/34416148925652993
OH GOD NO NOT THE BLACK EYED PEAS WHY GOD WHY WHAT DID HUMANITY DO TO DESERVE THIS NO NO NO NO
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[30-Oct-19 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
is Benny having a stroke


[30-Oct-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[30-Oct-19 06:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ok


[30-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/business/murray-energy-bankruptcy/index.html

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America's largest private coal miner files for bankruptcy
The slow death of the American coal industry has forced Murray Energy, the largest private coal miner in the United States, to file for bankruptcy protection Tuesday.
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[30-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/639153710550876183/IMG_20191030_094511.jpg

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[30-Oct-19 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Horrifying


[30-Oct-19 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/john-sullivan-ukraine-phone-call-061694

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Trump's Russia ambassador pick breaks with him over Ukraine phone call
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[30-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50232491

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Greta Thunberg rejects environmental award
She turned down the prize money and said "the climate movement does not need any more awards".
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[30-Oct-19 07:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://preview.redd.it/k9egzc5lspv31.jpg?auto=webp&s=5e1e8b76c06037a365880b307fca0c19e48c9d07

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[30-Oct-19 07:28 PM] ononim#8141
Mapuche Joker


[30-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"We'll give you all this money to Shut The Fuck Up™"

"Nice try, assholes"


[30-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/alexander-vindman-testimony-white-house-transcript/index.html

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Vindman says White House omitted Trump's reference to Biden tapes ...
The National Security Council's top Ukraine expert told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that he tried to make changes to the White House's rough transcript of the July phone call between President Donald Trump and Ukraine's President, including that Trump mentioned...
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[30-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's the full transcript of the call


[30-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not a summary, word for word


[30-Oct-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/bill-taylor-willing-testify-publicly/index.html

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Bill Taylor is willing to testify publicly in impeachment probe
The top US diplomat in Ukraine, Bill Taylor, is willing to return to Capitol Hill to testify publicly, according to a source familiar with his thinking, making him a potential key early witness for Democrats as they shift their impeachment inquiry into a public phase.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191022101336-05-bill-taylor-1022-super-tease.jpg


[30-Oct-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Inb4 he gets shot


[30-Oct-19 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump's Razor
> The stupidest possible outcome or action is accurate and factual


[30-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking on a keyword system somewhere.


[30-Oct-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Codeword


[30-Oct-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/impeachment-collision-course-possible-shutdown

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Impeachment on collision course with possible shutdown
Congress could navigate a shutdown and an impeachment inquiry if lawmakers and the administration can’t reach a funding deal in the next three weeks.
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[30-Oct-19 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
If only it could be called a collusion course 🤔


[30-Oct-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie hopefully we get that soon


[30-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Police destroying dwellings.


[30-Oct-19 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder why nobody ever said that it's maybe not ideal to have a house out of cardboard and happy wishes, where everyone can just... enter with no effort.


[30-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
cause, this is again, one of those things, 'why doesn't this happen to us? Oh, that's why.'


[30-Oct-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I get that this wetpaper structure is already ungodly expensive, but shit.


[30-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US construction is a joke


[30-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The average suburban home weighs as much as the pickup truck in the garage


[30-Oct-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And most of the weight will be the roofing


[30-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/468194-bolton-slated-to-testify-next-week-as-part-of-impeachment-inquiry

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Bolton slated to testify next week as part of impeachment inquiry ...
Former national security adviser John Bolton is slated to testify next week as part of Democrats' impeachment inquiry, in what could be a key deposition for House inv
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[30-Oct-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy


[30-Oct-19 09:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bethesdas-fallout-class-war-has-players-targeting-premium-subscribers

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Video Game Class War Has ‘Fallout’ Players Targeting Premium S...
“At least 5-7 people in teddy bear costumes kept punching me,” one member complained.


[30-Oct-19 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Twitter to stop accepting political ads https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-stop-accepting-political-ads-n1074171

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Twitter to stop accepting political ads
Facebook is currently embroiled in a contentious debate over its decision to allow political campaigns to push ads containing misinformation.
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[30-Oct-19 09:23 PM] illumnious#7938
Woohoo


[30-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🙌


[30-Oct-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty big news


[30-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh shit son


[30-Oct-19 10:00 PM] Mani#1404
LMAOhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189601417469841409?s=19

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189601417469841409?s=19
AMERICAN HERO!
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[30-Oct-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
What


[30-Oct-19 10:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's the dog that chased Bahgdadi down before he blew himself up


[30-Oct-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Thank fuck for Bernie


[30-Oct-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/bernie-sanders-refuses-to-bow-to-israel/


[30-Oct-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-asked-trump-administration-respond-us-congress-over-genocide-and-sanctions-bills

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Turkey asks White House to reject genocide recognition
Ankara calls for response to US House of Representatives recognising Armenian genocide and passing sanctions over Syria offensive
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[30-Oct-19 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Erdogan throwing a tantrum, i see


[30-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/468215-top-russia-official-set-to-leave-national-security-council-post-amid

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Top Russia official set to leave NSC post amid impeachment inquiry...
Tim Morrison, President Trump's top Russia official on the National Security Council (NSC), is expected to soon leave his post, sources close to the matter
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_102519upi3_lead.jpg


[30-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HMMM


[30-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
he's probably gonna call trump again and have him tell moscow mitch to table the bill


[30-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who Taylor mentioned like 15 times in his opening statement


[30-Oct-19 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/gunreformryan/status/1189267805834743809

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Ryan Chase (@GunReformRyan)
https://twitter.com/gunreformryan/status/1189267805834743809
House Republicans WALK OUT on a bipartisan hearing about how the VA can help better female veterans’ lives, REFUSING TO VOTE.

They don’t care about women. They don’t care about vets. They don’t care about their constituents.

VOTE. THEM. OUT.
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[30-Oct-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/20/bulgaria-sofia-racism-roma-everybody-hates-us-anti-gypsy-abuse

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‘Everybody hates us’: on Sofia’s streets, Roma face racism e...
After racism marred the football, Romany people tell of the abuse they suffer and of anti-Gypsy campaigns at the highest levels
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[30-Oct-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Fionn_Grunspan/status/1188771990380916736

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Fíonn Grünspan 🎃🎪🦹🏼‍♂️🤟🏼 (@Fionn_Grunspan)
https://twitter.com/Fionn_Grunspan/status/1188771990380916736
Bulgaria is close to passing a [Neo-Nazi] law called “Roma Integration”.

• It limits how many children Roma can have.

• Roma children will be sent to work camps.

• It will legally formalise the Roma Ghettos into violent Pogroms.

#SpeakOut
#OpreRoma
https://t....
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[30-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/reporter-who-broke-katie-hill-story-called-herself-campaign-manager-hills-gop-opponents-1468590

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Reporter who broke Katie Hill story called herself "campaign manag...
Jennifer Van Laar broke the story which led to former Representative Katie Hill resigning chose not to reveal her previous work with Hill's former opponents, including one where she acted as campaign manager.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1541042/katie-hill.jpg


[30-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[30-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
aaah, Romas. Criminal Syndicate the people.


[30-Oct-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1189343492750921730

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Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast)
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1189343492750921730
I would love to see @KatieHill4CA sue her into the ground because revenge porn. 🦄 https://t.co/Ya3s9O6UvW
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[30-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
not really a thing where I live, but we have them on the other side of Karpathians


[30-Oct-19 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I hear almost exclusively unflattering things.


[30-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
granted, it's never 'innocent locals and evil romas', it's usually evil/evil.


[30-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
but they adapted pretty well.


[30-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1189338305084772352

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Revenge porn publisher says she hopes Katie Hill doesn’t sue her publication... When asked where she obtained the pictures, she refuses to reveal her sources https://t.co/iWUJlixXTE
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[30-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
the publisher of the revenge porn looks like she has a long ass neck


[30-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
> California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law SB 255, or the "Revenge Porn" bill, on October 1, 2013. The law makes it a crime to post sexually explicit pictures or video online of another person without his or her permission with the intention of causing emotional distress or publicly humiliating the subject.


[30-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
she's gonna get fucking destroyed if katie hill decides to sue


[30-Oct-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
both her and the news site she works for


[30-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[30-Oct-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd definitely go for it.


[31-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1189634360472829952

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We’ve made the decision to stop all political advertising on Twitter globally. We believe political message reach should be earned, not bought. Why? A few reasons…🧵
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[31-Oct-19 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[31-Oct-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's a corporation, obviously they're doing it to prevent their PR from falling too low


[31-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/30/twitter-ban-political-advertising-us-election

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Twitter to ban all political advertising, raising pressure on Facebook
Social network’s move comes as Facebook faces controversy over ads that promote misinformation
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[31-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's a great change


[31-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
as much as they're doing it for selfish reasons


[31-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
gonna piss trump off massively


[31-Oct-19 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be nice if facebook followed up doing that as well


[31-Oct-19 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
since the whole fake ad thing seems to be taking off


[31-Oct-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[31-Oct-19 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
gotta appreciate it when it happens


[31-Oct-19 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
> Dorsey explained the motivations behind the change in a lengthy Twitter thread that appeared to include several references and responses to the convoluted arguments that Facebook has put forward in recent weeks.


[31-Oct-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/832aca2a059f471c993a55788a3fc719

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Keystone pipeline leaks oil in northeastern North Dakota
BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) — A pipeline that carries tar sands oil from Canada through seven states has leaked an unknown amount of crude oil over more than quarter-mile swath in northeastern North...
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[31-Oct-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the duty of everyone that livs near the pipeline to at every opportunity disable it to prevent it from leaking.


[31-Oct-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol Rudy called one of Trump's picks a liar


[31-Oct-19 01:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If Twitter is banning false information and political advertising why is Trump still on twitter?


[31-Oct-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a guy running in CA explicitly just so he can make fake claims about Republicans


[31-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like shit that is totally and completely false


[31-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And put them on FB


[31-Oct-19 01:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I saw it on the facebook so it must be true.


[31-Oct-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
negative or positive claims?


[31-Oct-19 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e62669c80b9f4c43a3362c0891467c1a

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Hungary's Orban: Good relations with Russia are a necessity
BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — Hungary's prime minster said Wednesday after hosting a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin that good relations with Russia are a necessity because of his...
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[31-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-30/impeachment-to-get-rare-public-airing-as-senate-hears-nominee


[31-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
> Donald Trump’s nominee for U.S. ambassador to Russia confirmed the assertion from a former diplomat in Ukraine that she was removed after concerted pressure by the president and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.


[31-Oct-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
> John Sullivan, who’s currently deputy secretary of state, testified Wednesday that he told U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch that she was being recalled. That followed a campaign by Giuliani who singled her out for what he deemed an anti-Trump agenda.


[31-Oct-19 02:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/3BBZ69vyqzY

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[31-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Hungary, yeah. We knew it was only a matter of time before the sanctions would crumble.


[31-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think they actually did anything much to Russia, but they hurt the lesser EU states.


[31-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
@PwnyPony, video is private


[31-Oct-19 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
so EU was bound to give sooner rather than later when it became obvious Russia gave approximately 0 shits about it


[31-Oct-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
giving 0 shits in general is a good political strategy it seems.


[31-Oct-19 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yea. it literally just went private after I posted it.


[31-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
granted, this is a translated report by a Russian 'journalist', so I'm pressing X to doubt


[31-Oct-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
what was it?


[31-Oct-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
but overall, it's inevitable.


[31-Oct-19 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It is about the Melbourne cup horse races. Around 122 horses killed or died on the track or being injured not including the ones that are not fast enough to win the races that are made into pet food. Also tongue tying, cutting and bloodletting. The Australian government funds the shit out of it with millions.
The video was very graphic so that may be part of why the video was made private.

The Melbourne FuCup.


[31-Oct-19 03:08 AM] Mani#1404
@byte[] late as hell but that pic is so obviously edited.


[31-Oct-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
no shit


[31-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1189624030376185859

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Silicon Valley Leaders Sit Down With Wildfire At Investment Meeting After Being Impressed By Its Rapid Expansion https://t.co/0y1ViDVUOD
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[31-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Onion hits the nail on the head


[31-Oct-19 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Every time


[31-Oct-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/468213-gop-senator-blocks-sweeping-election-reform-bill

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GOP senator blocks sweeping election reform bill
A Republican senator blocked a sweeping House-passed election and ethics reform bill on Wednesday, the latest of several failed attempts by Democrats to advance election-related legislation ahead of 2020.&nbsp
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[31-Oct-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[31-Oct-19 04:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[31-Oct-19 04:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's back up. looks like they just removed some of the dead horse pictures.
https://youtu.be/lRi5Y34xrjE

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Honest Government Ad | The Melbourne Cup
The Victorien Government has made an ad for the Melbourne Cup and it’s surprisingly honest and informative! 🐴 -*- Ways to say Nup to the Cup: https://www.ani...
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[31-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
'damage gambling does to our community'


[31-Oct-19 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Every time it's the same rhethoric.


[31-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
don't disagree on the main topic, of course.


[31-Oct-19 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
but when people try to plug that stuff or stuff like that is eugh.


[31-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
'violence against women increased drastically'. Same stuff.


[31-Oct-19 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's a problem. Is it a Melbourne Cup-specific problem? You're trying too hard.


[31-Oct-19 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
('glorification of alcohol abuse' I'll half buy because the majority of sports events are like that. Or, hell, of public entertainment events...)


[31-Oct-19 04:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The cup is a trigger to the violence. idiots bet too much money on a horse that loses get mad and hit their wives over it.


[31-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
...you know what, you managed to refute two of my claims in one sentence.


[31-Oct-19 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
okay. I stand corrected.


[31-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
bit of a shame they're primarily doing Australia stuff, their internal vows have pretty miniscule impact on the world, unfortunately for them.


[31-Oct-19 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
still, gotta appreciate the quality. This is pretty high effort.


[31-Oct-19 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/MfAiB2ZoRhM

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Honest Government Ad | Visit Hawai'i!
The US Government made a tourism ad for Hawai'i, and it's surprisingly honest and informative. I had the opportunity to visit Hawai'i at the start of the mon...
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[31-Oct-19 04:59 AM] ononim#8141
tbh I feel like puerto rico and philipiness are less known than hawaii


[31-Oct-19 04:59 AM] ononim#8141
at least outside of states


[31-Oct-19 05:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Most Americans think Puerto Rico is in mexico.


[31-Oct-19 05:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/g-GYqakwHdg

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Honest Government Ad | Visit Puerto Rico!
The US Government just released this tourism ad for Puerto Rico and it's surprisingly honest and informative. -*- Ways you can support us to keep making vide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g-GYqakwHdg/maxresdefault.jpg


[31-Oct-19 05:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
SOVERIEGNTIES WERE NEVER CEDED


[31-Oct-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
well, genetically modified crops again :/


[31-Oct-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
looking at the map, Hawaii got a raw deal geograhically.


[31-Oct-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
small wonder people took it.


[31-Oct-19 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Blunt is so corrupt and establishment he almost lost in 2016


[31-Oct-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got ties to the Middle East economically and his wife is one of the top lobbyists. He knows he's corrupt as hell and stays quiet as a consequence.


[31-Oct-19 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Oct-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I really hope mcconnell dies in his election


[31-Oct-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if not physically, then atleast politically


[31-Oct-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charge-dropped-against-teacher-seen-video-punching-student-who-called-n1074036

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Charge dropped against teacher seen on video punching student who ...
The decision to dismiss the case was based on a number of factors, including "the facts and circumstances surrounding the incident."
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[31-Oct-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Oct-19 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1189582955619983360

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This is stunning. The US deputy secretary of state, on live television, acknowledges Giuliani was trying to take down the US ambassador in Ukraine. 

He also says a White House official circulated a dossier of misinformation in aid of that smear campaign. 
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[31-Oct-19 12:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-lawyer-moved-transcript-of-trump-call-to-classified-server-after-ukraine-adviser-raised-alarms/2019/10/30/ba0fbdb6-fb4e-11e9-8190-6be4deb56e01_story.html


[31-Oct-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
> Moments after President Trump ended his phone call with Ukraine’s president on July 25, an unsettled national security aide rushed to the office of White House lawyer John Eisenberg.
> 
> Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine adviser at the White House, had been listening to the call and was disturbed by the pressure Trump had applied to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate his political rivals, according to people familiar with Vindman’s testimony to lawmakers this week.
> 
> Vindman told Eisenberg, the White House’s legal adviser on national security issues, that what the president did was wrong, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
> 
> Scribbling notes on a yellow legal pad, Eisenberg proposed a step that other officials have said is at odds with long-standing White House protocol: moving a transcript of the call to a highly classified server and restricting access to it, according to two people familiar with Vindman’s account.


[31-Oct-19 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
> The details of how the White House clamped down on information about the controversial call comes as the House impeachment inquiry turns its focus to the role of Eisenberg, who has served as deputy White House counsel since the start of Trump’s administration. House impeachment investigators on Wednesday evening announced they have asked Eisenberg and a fellow White House lawyer, Mike Ellis, to testify Monday.


[31-Oct-19 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
> White House lawyer moved transcript of Trump call to classified server after Ukraine adviser raised alarms


[31-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
this title is a good tl;dr


[31-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
basically, someone said "holy shit this is terrible", so they moved the transcript to a secure server so no one else could see it


[31-Oct-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1111cba1f5e147d280a61904b1c52053

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China pledges support for private market, no stimulus plans
BEIJING (AP) — China's leaders affirmed support Thursday for private business within its state-dominated economy but gave no sign of initiatives to boost sagging growth following a planning...
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[31-Oct-19 01:13 PM] Opponent#3498
China as a market economy, that'd be a sight.


[31-Oct-19 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
`basically, someone said "holy shit this is terrible", so they moved the transcript to a secure server so no one else could see it`


[31-Oct-19 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what a good state official should do tbh. Damage control first.


[31-Oct-19 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
especially a legal rep.


[31-Oct-19 01:34 PM] byte[]#2610
that's illegal


[31-Oct-19 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
you know, except for the fact that it's massively illegal to do so


[31-Oct-19 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
at least 3 different laws violated most likely


[31-Oct-19 01:35 PM] Crow#5457
what was said in the transcript itself broke a law or two, and the actual steps taken for "damage control" were also illegal


[31-Oct-19 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
that just means the damage control failed.


[31-Oct-19 01:51 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe we wouldn't need to do damage control if our president was vaguely competent at _fucking **anything**_


[31-Oct-19 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
true. That is also a problem.


[31-Oct-19 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
a 'shadow foreign policy' that's visible to the naked eye is an epic failure.


[31-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/us/white-supremacist-woman-reeve/index.html

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How women fall into America's white power movement
Women reveal details of how misogyny drives modern white supremacism and how they got sucked in, and then why they pulled themselves away.
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[31-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Crow#5457
> She went from a liberal non-voter to burning books with white supremacists. Here's why she finally left the movement


[31-Oct-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
> A flyer at the book-burning said "WHITE SHARIA ZONE. THOTS MUST WEAR HIJAB AT ALL TIMES." (A "thot" is slang racists have enthusiastically ripped from hip-hop; it means "that ho over there," or a woman who seeks attention through her sexuality.) Samantha took a picture of it. She is holding it with French-manicured fingernails.


[31-Oct-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191030145101-samantha-white-sharia-super-169.jpg

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[31-Oct-19 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[31-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
> She says her ex threatened her -- saying in the good ole days she would have left the movement "in a body bag." She says she was reminded she could hold "a lot of Nazi semen" and make many Nazi babies. Despite those threats, she left.


[31-Oct-19 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/us/florida-principal-holocaust-fired-trnd/index.html

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A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was ...
A former high school principal in Boca Raton, Florida, was fired on Wednesday as a result of emails he sent to a student's parent in April 2018 that appeared to cast doubt on the historical truth of the Holocaust.
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[31-Oct-19 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine living in a society


[31-Oct-19 02:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lotsa quality bruh moments


[31-Oct-19 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the bruh train has no brakes.


[31-Oct-19 02:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1189897137984876545?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1189897137984876545?s=21
READ THE TRANSCRIPT!
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[31-Oct-19 03:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What transcript?


[31-Oct-19 03:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The Ukraine phone call. trump did nothing wrong. read the transcript.


[31-Oct-19 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lx6y0e9yaqv31.jpg

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[31-Oct-19 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
How to get sued in 1 easy step


[31-Oct-19 03:37 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/464/772/d68.jpg

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[31-Oct-19 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
so what's wrong with the shop thing? Apart from it being immoral, which has no bearing on the law.


[31-Oct-19 03:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Shop thing?


[31-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Patachu#0542
>washington Post "pls subscribe and gibs money" >NY Times "please subscriube for free and verify your email is legit plus your ID checked facebook" >CNN "please accept this intrusive cookie and scripts that determine your location for tailored info" >Fox : "of course we have info please disable your adblock, install our app and agree to this 3 pages, tl;dr: just sign here" Libération : "You want information with source and articles that are pertinent to your profile? sign in with facebook or pay quickly to read this full article" and Youtube: "This video is not available in your country. But hey, Youtube Red :wink :wink "


[31-Oct-19 04:03 PM] Patachu#0542
the media : Why no one ever trust us anymore?


[31-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's almost like journalists don't eat air and drink well wishes


[31-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/world/europe/germany-nuclear-weapons.html anyways if anyone have a full access to this thing being in the US, not sure how objective the article can be

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European Nuclear Weapons Program Would Be Legal, German Review Finds
A formal assessment found that Germany could legally finance the British or French weapons programs in exchange for their protection.
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[31-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, they need money or something


[31-Oct-19 04:04 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah sure, everyone needs money, don't worry they do a LOT.


[31-Oct-19 04:06 PM] Patachu#0542
but that's kind of dishonest something that say "We think information should be available to all" and have that discourse that engage in data-mining. Anyways searching something  relevant about an EU trade and debunk facts about a french-german armament collab. which includes the share of nuclear weapons, like it happened during cold war with the US bases there, with bombers carrying nukes. This is not under the NATO's command.


[31-Oct-19 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
It's almost like we live in a corporatist dystopia that requires people to have money to survive


[31-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't question capitalism


[31-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just consume and die


[31-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pay your taxes too


[31-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Patachu#0542
pretty much, if it's to help people getting paid, i would rather trust a news source that works on donations rather than one being biased to please and get money from their advertisers. and even worse one that datamine me.


[31-Oct-19 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Then use The Guardian


[31-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Patachu#0542
Thing is how can we really have a political neutrality in the media anymore, relying on facts only, may it be the Guardian, BBC, Breitbart, it's all the same, it's all political AF.


[31-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Patachu#0542
Newspaper A : Trump is being impeached, I guarantee it! It's happening! Newspaper B: Trump can't be impeached, it's not happening, I guarantee it. (ad lib)


[31-Oct-19 04:15 PM] Patachu#0542
it's essentially opinions that are dominating and pending to the viewers.


[31-Oct-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Do you even read the paper dude


[31-Oct-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
The papers do not put opinions in the headlines or the main article body


[31-Oct-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
They put them in the editorials


[31-Oct-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
They may omit or include specific information that leads you to lean a specific way in the article, but they won't say "you should believe X"


[31-Oct-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
It's reporting the facts


[31-Oct-19 04:16 PM] Patachu#0542
I'll check it closer when I have time, promised!


[31-Oct-19 04:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Even Faux News reports the facts in the article body


[31-Oct-19 04:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is this dude still here


[31-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Patachu#0542
`why not? I'm not racist or anything breaking the rumes, only a guy with a different opinion globally. I'm even trying to get in to oppose my opinion with leftist ones to change a bit.


[31-Oct-19 04:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alrighty then


[31-Oct-19 04:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just... make sure not to do another bruh moment


[31-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Patachu#0542
what


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I thoroughly debunked the validity of comparing IQ to "civility"


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
So that probably won't bruh again


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Patachu#0542
ah this one


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] Patachu#0542
okay that's what a bruh is.


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aaaanyway


[31-Oct-19 04:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/kamala-harris-campaign-layoffs-061112

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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/kamala-harris-campaign-layoffs-061112
Kamala Harris to slash staff, restructure campaign as she hemorrha...
https://static.politico.com/90/d4/14ad8031401da4fda3401a8d17f8/191030-kamala-harris-getty-773.jpg


[31-Oct-19 04:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Copmala is already fading it seems


[31-Oct-19 04:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean... besides Bernie and Warren, did any of the other DNC presidentiables have any specific, coherent policy proposals at all? We're a year into the debates already and i still don't know what Kamala defends that would allegedly change the country


[31-Oct-19 04:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She's just... the black woman, i can't see anything more special


[31-Oct-19 04:24 PM] Patachu#0542
( speaking of, am I the only guy in this place with right-wing opinions? )


[31-Oct-19 04:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably not


[31-Oct-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
You're not, but the other ones don't tend to speak out


[31-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
232-196


[31-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Patachu#0542
yeah apart DeathCloud and MultiBrony


[31-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For the impeachment inquiry votes


[31-Oct-19 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
TMB is totally irrational


[31-Oct-19 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Look at his pinned quote in this channel


[31-Oct-19 04:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Two Dems voted with Republicans, several on both sides abstained


[31-Oct-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/567472944570433546


[31-Oct-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
> No. I only agreed because I didn't know it was Marxist.


[31-Oct-19 04:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is a MAP/NOMAP


[31-Oct-19 04:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently it's slang for "pedophile"?


[31-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Minor-Attracted Person


[31-Oct-19 04:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[31-Oct-19 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
The law in the US is too inflexible to deal with it


[31-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
First of all child marriages are mostly still allowed, and so you can legally marry a child of any age and have sex with the child that way


[31-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Second AOC laws' R&J exceptions are very lacking


[31-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
It shouldn't be a problem for a 14 yo and a 16 yo to bang


[31-Oct-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
It often is


[31-Oct-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
And CP laws are totally outdated at this point


[31-Oct-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
They're used almost exclusively to punish the victim


[31-Oct-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Europe does a much better job of it


[31-Oct-19 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
In general


[31-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/stewartsmithtwt/status/1189186258695667714

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Stewart Smith, Halloween Blackface Non-Wearer (@StewartSmithTwt)
https://twitter.com/stewartsmithtwt/status/1189186258695667714
Oh my fucking god. https://t.co/2cbJZlsEhL
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[31-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
um


[31-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
I just linked that


[31-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Mikey#7286
Wait what


[31-Oct-19 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
like, 10 seconds ago lol


[31-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Mikey#7286
I copied a politico article


[31-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Mikey#7286
The hell is that


[31-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Mikey#7286
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/30/trump-senate-republicans-062360


[31-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
it looks like you somehow copied the link in the post I just posted


[31-Oct-19 05:41 PM] Mikey#7286
I must have mistapped


[31-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Mikey#7286
Meant to link that


[31-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/trump-senate-republicans-062360

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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/trump-senate-republicans-062360
After McConnell advice, Trump lays off GOP senators on impeachment
https://static.politico.com/54/9f/c700ac9044d4b071882189e5ae09/191030-donald-trump3-gty-773.jpg


[31-Oct-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
for some reason, the preview doesn't show when you link the amp version


[31-Oct-19 05:43 PM] Mikey#7286
Sometimes it does


[31-Oct-19 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-committing-felony-bribery-giving-fundraising-cash-gop-senators-ahead-impeachment-trial-1468946

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-committing-felony-bribery-giving-fundraising-cash-gop-senators-ahead-impeachment-trial-1468946
Trump is committing "felony bribery" by giving fundraising cash to...
"Any other American who offered cash to the jury before a trial would go to prison," Richard Painter said.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1541589/trump-gop-senators.jpg


[31-Oct-19 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that doesn't look good


[31-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably legal but looks bad


[31-Oct-19 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/nypd-subway-fight-benjamin-marshall-1468977

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https://www.newsweek.com/nypd-subway-fight-benjamin-marshall-1468977
Teenager filmed being punched during NYPD subway brawl sues for $5...
Benjamin Marshall received a concussion and was arrested for assaulting a police officer during the incident captured on video.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1541622/nypd.jpg


[31-Oct-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/6akkqrf4rvv31.png

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[31-Oct-19 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/468345-tomi-lahren-dresses-as-ocasio-cortez-for-halloween

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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/468345-tomi-lahren-dresses-as-ocasio-cortez-for-halloween
Tomi Lahren dresses as Ocasio-Cortez for Halloween
Conservative commentator Tomi Lahren dressed as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) for Halloween this year, referring to the freshman lawmaker as “the thing that scares me most.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/tomi_lahren_aoc_ig.png


[31-Oct-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
spooky


[31-Oct-19 07:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/10/29/ilhan-omar-one-of-three-house-reps-to-vote-present-on-armenia-genocide-bill/

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https://nypost.com/2019/10/29/ilhan-omar-one-of-three-house-reps-to-vote-present-on-armenia-genocide-bill/
Ilhan Omar one of three House reps to vote ‘present’ on Armeni...
Freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar refused to back a resolution Tuesday that recognized the slaughter of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during World War I as a “genocide.” The Minnesota congresswoman…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/white-nationalism-terrorism.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[31-Oct-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Travesty


[31-Oct-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what was her reasoning behind it?


[31-Oct-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
iirc she said the US government was just pouring salt on Turkey's wound or something


[31-Oct-19 07:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which is a weak excuse


[31-Oct-19 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-latest-updates-today-2019-10-02/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-latest-updates-today-2019-10-02/
Trump lashes out at Democrats over impeachment probe
The president said the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is a "lowlife" who should be arrested for treason
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/10/02/bda7b1de-8b12-4d3f-9066-3ba8f5658733/thumbnail/1200x630/4f1a956fbd84d1829fb8dc618cdd5ef3/gettyimages-1173143698.jpg


[31-Oct-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
By those standards the president of the united states is a lowlife who should be arrested for treason


[31-Oct-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
But we already knew that


[31-Oct-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/468364-ex-white-house-russia-expert-defends-trump-ukraine-call-nothing

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White House Russia expert defends Trump-Ukraine call: Nothing 'ill...
Tim Morrison, the outgoing top White House Russia expert, testified behind closed doors that he doesn't believe anything illegal was discussed during President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/morrisontimothy_103119gn2_lead.jpg


[31-Oct-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking Roger Stone trial in 6 days


[31-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
> The Minnesota congresswoman voted “present” at the vote Tuesday, telling CNN in a statement afterward that genocide “should not be used as a cudgel in a political fight.”


[31-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha, he went "no we weren't pressuring Zelensky, we meant to pressure the AG"


[31-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/pompeo-says-state-dept-officials-wont-show-up-for-scheduled-impeachment-depositions-this-week/2019/10/01/b350f8a2-e459-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html


[31-Oct-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It sure looks real innocent when you ban people from telling the truth


[31-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Morrison's testimony is confusing


[31-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If it wasn't about Zelensky at all, what was Trump talking about in the call?


[31-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
why are you people still talking to Darkdoomer? It's a guy supposedly advocating for decentralised socialist society, that turns around and claims having 'right wing views' and 'if the government censored something it's clearly for my own good'


[31-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
just here to start shit, pretty much.


[31-Oct-19 08:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49876827

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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49876827
Babies in the womb have lizard-like hand muscles
They are 250-million-year-old "evolutionary remnants" most lose before birth, scientists say.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/6E71/production/_109037282_capture.png


[31-Oct-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awesome, not political, but still awesome


[31-Oct-19 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Oct-19 08:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/trumps-plan-to-take-syrian-oil-slammed-as-clear-violation-of-international-law-and-imperial-looting/

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/trumps-plan-to-take-syrian-oil-slammed-as-clear-violation-of-international-law-and-imperial-looting/
Trump’s Plan to Take Syrian Oil Slammed as ‘Clear Violation of...
President Donald Trump announced plans to violate several tenets of international law on Sunday morning during a press conference celebrating the death of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/keep-the-oil.jpg


[31-Oct-19 09:10 PM] Opponent#3498
US violating international law. That's clearly never happened before >.<


[31-Oct-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"My recollection is that Ambassador Sondland's proposal to Mr. Yermak was that it could be sufficient if the new Ukrainian prosecutor general — not President Zelensky — would commit to pursue the Burisma investigation."- Morrison


[31-Oct-19 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-nuclear-activities-germany-world-powers

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German intelligence reports on Iran's illicit nuclear activities m...
Serious questions have emerged about the International Atomic Energy Agency’s and the European powers’ silence regarding a series of German intelligence reports documenting the Iranian regime’s illegal attempts to obtain nuclear weapons technology as late as 2018.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/08/ContentBroker_contentid-edf2f049b8384a5da0db84744b12743b.png


[31-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1189853837273817089

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David Lammy (@DavidLammy)
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1189853837273817089
Enough to give a grown adult the shivers. Happy Halloween 👇🏿

https://t.co/cb3wcZxePf
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Twitter


[31-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🎵


[31-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh right Brexit got delayed again


[31-Oct-19 10:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
At this rate Flint will get water before Brexit happens


[31-Oct-19 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
"Transactional Loyalty" https://i.imgur.com/zlzGflV.png

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Transactional loyalty
https://i.imgur.com/zlzGflV.png


[31-Oct-19 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456099146001285142/639548771465691167/a6x3pwv6sav31.png

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[31-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is even the message supposed to be?


[31-Oct-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why make a political cartoon if you're just going to treat it like a Star Wars movie but with words instead of lasers?


[31-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This has got to be a parody


[31-Oct-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too perfect


[31-Oct-19 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/meet-struthless-the-aussie-bloke-making-art-out-of-our-cultural-cringe/

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Lucinda Price
https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/meet-struthless-the-aussie-bloke-making-art-out-of-our-cultural-cringe/
Meet Struthless, The Aussie Bloke Making Art Out Of Our Cultural C...
Australia is an odd little island.Living here, it’s easy to forget how bizarre some of our biggest icons, and longest traditions, really are.We plonk ginormous statues of bananas and merinos in country towns. We call our best mates cunts, and our worst enemies ‘mate’. ...
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[31-Oct-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Zbxn0cnho&feature=youtu.be

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struthless
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Zbxn0cnho&feature=youtu.be
How to draw a cursed baby boomer cartoon
Boomer humor but it's a how-to. Have a click, see if you're into it. An analysis of why baby boomer humour is so bad plus a cursed drawing tutorial.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O3Zbxn0cnho/maxresdefault.jpg


[31-Oct-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, it's satire


[31-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[31-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I felt it had to be


[31-Oct-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
From the "bigotry-impaired" line


[31-Oct-19 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/30/jair-bolsonaro-marielle-franco-murder-link/


[31-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/468434-white-house-expert-on-russia-bolsters-both-partys-impeachment-arguments

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Both sides claim win in White House official's impeachment testimony
Lawmakers in both parties are seizing on the testimony of an outgoing top
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/morrisontimothy_103119gn5_lead.jpg


[31-Oct-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"But a source familiar with his deposition told The Hill that when later pressed by House investigators whether he believed what the president said on his call with Zelensky was “legal,” Morrison declined to offer a verdict."


[31-Oct-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“I wouldn’t call it illegal”

“Would you call it legal?”

“I decline to answer”


[01-Nov-19 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ok


[01-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anon isn't a thing much anymore


[01-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all Wojaks


[01-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could probably convince people that Anon is an MLP character


[01-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially because a guy who was well known for drawing him works officially on MLP


[01-Nov-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Pencils


[01-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/nsyeQRE

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Politician logic
https://i.imgur.com/3Nbjh3Sh.jpg


[01-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ylKZKgI.jpg

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[01-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Patachu#0542
taxing students


[01-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Patachu#0542
No idea how it works there but as soon something exists : "He/She earns. Tax him!"


[01-Nov-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Taxing college kids is a moronic idea because they don't have much money to pay anyway


[01-Nov-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Nowhere near compared to billionaires who regularly evade taxes with offshore accounts


[01-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Patachu#0542
Do anything : "you owe thing to X" Be a starving person trying to live off art or your own stuff "You make something we must pick a percent on it so you are legit"
Yeah, what kind of society we live in. It's indeed nothing. but this is the reason no one should declare anything


[01-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Patachu#0542
where the money is going.


[01-Nov-19 01:04 AM] Patachu#0542
Helping people? Muh roads? nah. public/private partnerships. It fuels in the banks, adds grains of sand to a dam that is the public debt.


[01-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Patachu#0542
Evade a bit of tax you get in prison. Be the CEO of a large group. move to the Cayman islands or some money laundering shit, "oh how infortunate, please keep going"


[01-Nov-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Remember the Panama Papers


[01-Nov-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Absolutely nothing happened


[01-Nov-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Except the journalist who reported it died


[01-Nov-19 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Suicide by 3 shots to the back of the head, of course


[01-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Patachu#0542
Ah yeah that was something. Even Macron was mentioned in. He got elected!


[01-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Patachu#0542
Yep...


[01-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Treascair#7785
I was about to say, didn't a journalist die via carbomb or something?


[01-Nov-19 01:08 AM] Patachu#0542
Yeah don't remember the bank/consultant who leaked these, he got killed.


[01-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Patachu#0542
Daphne Galiza


[01-Nov-19 01:11 AM] Patachu#0542
This is why the establishment/NWO/whatever it's called wants to end wikileaks. Information exists. Information can be tracked. They can be identified.


[01-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
you actually believe in the NWO conspiracy?


[01-Nov-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, there's no conspiracy


[01-Nov-19 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's an open secret that rich people are scheming assholes


[01-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Patachu#0542
^


[01-Nov-19 01:14 AM] Patachu#0542
it's not a conspiracy indeed. It's happening right in front of our eyes.


[01-Nov-19 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah but but but it's not the *right* rich people, you gotta believe it's those *other* guys


[01-Nov-19 01:16 AM] Patachu#0542
it's not even about being rich. Being rich is a number. Are rich people in control, or under control for earning what they have. What really at some point is the meaning of being rich, a capital, a potential in million, billions, and not using it.


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
working/ruling class


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Patachu#0542
What the goal of all that remains about control and strategies.


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
there's no goal


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
@Mikey he doesn't believe in anything. Just trying to start shit _again_


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
mash a lot of buzzwords together, see what comes out of it


[01-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't think there's a deep state who wants to create a one world government but idk


[01-Nov-19 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm just 🍿 until another crazy argument comes out


[01-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[01-Nov-19 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah he just said he's drunk


[01-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Patachu#0542
hey I'm just sharing idea. the fact is, there is a battle for control and nothing else.


[01-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Patachu#0542
everyone: yes and proud.


[01-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Mikey#7286
but you really think a bunch of governments all over the world are conspiring to take over?


[01-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Patachu#0542
they are not conspiring much, they are too dumb to even conspire anything.


[01-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Mikey#7286
i think stuff like, the fed being shit is legit, at least, why do we need a central bank?


[01-Nov-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
because when we didn't have the fed the economy collapsed if you breathed the wrong way


[01-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Mikey#7286
but i don't think a small group of elites want to nor will they create a NWO


[01-Nov-19 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
have you read any of the history involving it


[01-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Patachu#0542
"our loli provider got caught. shit . pay this mafia guy to assassinate him and all will disappear" "okay, case closed!"


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Patachu#0542
if only they were elites


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah but the fed allows congress to bower so much money that doesn't exist, which is why our debt is several trillion


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Patachu#0542
that would be much better!


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not the fed's problem


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
that's congress's problem


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
but the fed is who we're borrowing from


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure how you understand fractional reserve, let alone national-scale macroeconomics


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
please retake high school economics


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
we should still at least be using the gold standard


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
no, we shouldn't


[01-Nov-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
that's fucking retarded


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Patachu#0542
does the fed even have those trillions in stock


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
so our currency should be based on nothing then?


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it _is_ based on nothing


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Mikey#7286
but that's a problem


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
your net worth is numbers in a database somewhere

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[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Patachu#0542
that's the same with the ECB. we pau for a debt out of money they never had to begin with


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Patachu#0542
yes


[01-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Patachu#0542
a big one


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
remember how trump said we should just print money to fix the debt?

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[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah because trump doesn't understand fractional reserve either


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Mikey#7286
that's the thing, we can't just print money on nothing


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Patachu#0542
>let's print moné


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
you might want to at least try to be more educated on monetary policy than the person you're trying to criticize for bad monetary policy


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Patachu#0542
yep


[01-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Patachu#0542
and chicks for free


[01-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Patachu#0542
That's just the biggest reason that we keep filling in central banks by efforts and taxes and production


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
we should at least rein in control of the federal reserve

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[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Patachu#0542
for just filling in a fictious interest rate on a debt made out of money the banks never had


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Patachu#0542
That's power


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
why


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
what are they doing that's bad


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
in your opinion


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Patachu#0542
Take an example, the bitcoin.


[01-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
they have the power to deem our currency worthless?


[01-Nov-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
so does... _checks_ the rest of the world


[01-Nov-19 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
so we should just get rid of money then


[01-Nov-19 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I wish


[01-Nov-19 01:27 AM] Patachu#0542
It's only built on one thing besides being ...numbers and hashes on a computer. Realistically, WATTS of power converted into HASHES by a GPU. How this gets a value.


[01-Nov-19 01:27 AM] Patachu#0542
Without a standard money is just a number on a paper.


[01-Nov-19 01:27 AM] Patachu#0542
or not even paper, data on a computer.


[01-Nov-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
And with a standard the economy collapses


[01-Nov-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll give you a few minutes to figure out why that is


[01-Nov-19 01:28 AM] Mikey#7286
well if the fed decides our currency is worthless we're all screwed either way


[01-Nov-19 01:28 AM] Patachu#0542
Because a standard goes against the world's economy of overproduction and irrationalism means of speculation


[01-Nov-19 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Can you answer the question


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Mikey#7286
because there's a finite amount of gold etc


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Right


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
And what happens when there's a finite amount of something


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Mikey#7286
you run out


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Patachu#0542
Just like there is a finite amount of resource in the world


[01-Nov-19 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Not only run out


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Different problem


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
some resources are infinite though


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
like wind


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
water


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
sun


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Patachu#0542
There is a finite amount of everything, that's what the finance is missing out.


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Situation: your currency becomes more valuable if you hold onto it instead of spending it


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
What do you do?


[01-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Mikey#7286
you get wealthier


[01-Nov-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
You hold onto it


[01-Nov-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Do you see why this is a problem


[01-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Patachu#0542
1 to 5cts  € are more valuable in copper than what's printed on them.


[01-Nov-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
They're made of zinc and copper plated


[01-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
also, again darkdoomer, not all resources are finite


[01-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
water is renewable, solar is also renewable, wind, until the earth kills us off


[01-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Mikey#7286
or the sun


[01-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Patachu#0542
Yes sure, we have a lot of things that are renewable, and hopefully.


[01-Nov-19 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey why is it a problem if people hold onto money instead of spending it


[01-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
i guess it's not


[01-Nov-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Think about it


[01-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Patachu#0542
we can still recycle some rare earth., find new petrol resources but as those are diminishing what kind of crisis will we end up with .


[01-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
or we can stop using fossil fuels and coal


[01-Nov-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Answer the fucking question


[01-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't fucking know man


[01-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't have an answer


[01-Nov-19 01:35 AM] Patachu#0542
Money is still a tool, if it is not used, or spent, it's just, a number on paper or on a computer somehwere. 
Yep, stopping wasting things like that would be a first.... We have that tech since a half century.


[01-Nov-19 01:36 AM] Patachu#0542
Like saying "we cannot feed all the population of the world" - with the current economic and waste, and overproduction to maintain the prices


[01-Nov-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
think about it in terms of why you would want cash moving and not being hoarded


[01-Nov-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey Let's say you have a business you go to occasionally to buy novelty items. You and everyone else in the world realizes that it makes more sense to save money instead of buying those novelties.

What happens to the business?


[01-Nov-19 01:36 AM] Mikey#7286
it closes


[01-Nov-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Now think of what happens on a national scale


[01-Nov-19 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
What happens when nobody is spending money because it increases in value if you keep it


[01-Nov-19 01:38 AM] Patachu#0542
you stack paper


[01-Nov-19 01:38 AM] Patachu#0542
with nice numbers on it.


[01-Nov-19 01:38 AM] Mikey#7286
businesses close


[01-Nov-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
How many


[01-Nov-19 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
What kind of businesses


[01-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
all kinds


[01-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
all of them


[01-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Mikey#7286
if no one is buying anything, businesses aren't making money


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Patachu#0542
that's capitalism, it's logic. BUT. there's another aspect. No governmen or economy would let their business end.


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Patachu#0542
In the end, what is happening if even no one can afford anything


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Patachu#0542
or can even work to afford anything


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
So do you see why having a standard-based currency is a problem  @Mikey


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Mikey#7286
yes


[01-Nov-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Because we did that


[01-Nov-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
For a hundred years and a bit


[01-Nov-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
And then realized it was fucking shit because we kept running out of gold


[01-Nov-19 01:42 AM] Patachu#0542
Later the $ was the standard, indexed on petrol, that was not either a good idea... So what kind of index we should scale money or a currecncy onto.


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
It's possible that at some point we may transcend currency


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Mikey#7286
well


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Because you are both getting at the fundamental problem of it


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
What does it even mean?


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Mikey#7286
that won't happen until people start being selfless


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
It's numbers on paper or a couple bits on a hard drive somewhere


[01-Nov-19 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Before then it was stacks of paper and drawn squiggles on ledger


[01-Nov-19 01:44 AM] Patachu#0542
Indeed. Was thinking, maybe on the base of the base, time. Time spent making something or working for someone.


[01-Nov-19 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
And before then it was goods


[01-Nov-19 01:44 AM] Patachu#0542
then well the rest goes to the accountant to put a value to the time spent doing somethin and convert your hours and days into  a paycheck.


[01-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Mikey#7286
if we get to that point i think we can proceed to becoming a type 1 civilization and start colonizing the rest of the solar system


[01-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Patachu#0542
...a society of proportional exchange would be much idealistic


[01-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Patachu#0542
without money, in sorts.


[01-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Patachu#0542
only one goal


[01-Nov-19 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to tear down another part of this specifically


[01-Nov-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
@Mikey what's the deal with the fed


[01-Nov-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
what are they doing that's a problem


[01-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Mikey#7286
there is no problem


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
you're right, it's congress


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
that's counter to the position you held moments ago


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
and smells defeatist


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't want you to just blindly accept what I'm telling you


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Patachu#0542
indeed, they are doing what they are made for. being a bank.


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm not being defeatist


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I want you to understand what you're talking about


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Mikey#7286
you're right that i don't really understand economics


[01-Nov-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Because it seems like you latched onto some talking points without fully comprehending it


[01-Nov-19 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
i was just going off of big critics of the fed like JFK, and a friend i work with said the fed would collapse all currencies


[01-Nov-19 01:49 AM] Patachu#0542
let's not fight over this, economics itself does not really makes sense anymore, it's just a mechanism of control. for every nation in the world.


[01-Nov-19 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
no i don't fully understand it, and i didn't entirely believe it, i just thought it was an interesting talking point


[01-Nov-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Thermonuclear war is a lot more likely to do that


[01-Nov-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
The fed doesn't control the global economy


[01-Nov-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
It controls the interest rate of US bonds and has the capacity to create new currency


[01-Nov-19 01:50 AM] Patachu#0542
The WTO deos that just fine.


[01-Nov-19 01:50 AM] Patachu#0542
reminds me in the early 2000s and the GATS.


[01-Nov-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
It is necessary to create new currency to prevent deflationary collapse


[01-Nov-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is the situation I described with the gold standard


[01-Nov-19 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
i wasn't aware of that


[01-Nov-19 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Currency is created by paying interest into those bonds


[01-Nov-19 01:52 AM] Patachu#0542
Originally, a currency was a part of a stock of something you bought with a paper money to say "I own a part of your stock wit that note "


[01-Nov-19 01:52 AM] Patachu#0542
a simple system that works and dematerializes something.


[01-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Patachu#0542
and it worked perfectly well for centuries.


[01-Nov-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Let me also briefly explain what fractional reserve is because it's critical to the functioning of modern economics


[01-Nov-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
When you deposit money into the bank the money doesn't stay there


[01-Nov-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
It goes into the bank's various investments, which are generally considered "safe" and will virtually guarantee a return for the bank


[01-Nov-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
This works fine as long as people are mostly depositing money and not all trying to withdraw it at once


[01-Nov-19 01:55 AM] Patachu#0542
Indeed, the banks allows themselves to use that money to invest in more things supposedly with value and make that money grow. Which is a good idea, who doesn't want a bank, a fortune, to act as a backup cell, a capacitor in a system to help the economy growing up


[01-Nov-19 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
(because the bank doesn't have the money in that situation)


[01-Nov-19 01:55 AM] Patachu#0542
Yep that's where things gets fucked.


[01-Nov-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
If they do all try to withdraw it at once (called a run on the banks, hasn't happened here since FDR) then the system collapses


[01-Nov-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
We fixed that with the FDIC during FDR's administration


[01-Nov-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Today the FDIC insures your bank's funds up to $250000


[01-Nov-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
If there's a run on the bank you will be able to get your money and it will come from the government; it will be directly created in that instance


[01-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Patachu#0542
...what kind of political force can get us out of such a perverted, poisoned system.


[01-Nov-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation

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The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) is one of two agencies that provide  deposit insurance to depositors in U.S. depository institutions, the other being the National Credit Union Administration, which regulates and insures credit unions. The FDIC is a United Sta...
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[01-Nov-19 02:02 AM] Patachu#0542
Trying to find back a link from Etienne Chouard, an economist who warned years ago that we are in a system that is resting on nothing but speculation, and can not last without a succession of crisis. But it's scary to read the running of the Federal Bank is the same as the ECB.


[01-Nov-19 02:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/trump-new-york-florida-primary-residence.html

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Trump, Lifelong New Yorker, Declares Himself a Resident of Florida
The president filed a “declaration of domicile” last month saying that his property in Palm Beach will be his permanent residence.
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[01-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Patachu#0542
Also no wonder the main goal of a bank is not to allow people to borrow money with an agreement on trust. Control. 
It's about the possibility to give something and take it back, any time.


[01-Nov-19 02:19 AM] illumnious#7938
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[01-Nov-19 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
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[01-Nov-19 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
I’m scared


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[01-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey


[01-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
US currency is bakked by something


[01-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
OIL


[01-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
OPEC trades oil in DOLLARS


[01-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We went from the gold standard to the gold and silver standard to a de facto oil standard.


[01-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We had serious economic problems when OPEC pulled some shit in the 70s btw


[01-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the key thing that makes this different from the gold standard is that oil is ultimately not the be-all end-all


[01-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The currency is supported by its usage in general which keeps it stable.


[01-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oil just helps with that by making it worthwhile to use dollars in large foreign markets.


[01-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately tho, any resource bakking your currency is a **weakness**


[01-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are long past the days when there was so much societal instability you had to tide over the peasants by saying money = gold


[01-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The upside of a resource bakking your currency is that if society completely collapses, you hav the resource which people will still want so you can get bakk into things easily.


[01-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The downside is that if society has problems with the resource then your economy breaks.


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both too much and too little.


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOLD HAS LIKE NO PLACE IN MODERN SOCIETY


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, if society did actually collapse tomorrow


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fallout style


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf are people going to do with gold?


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody would want it.


[01-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gold doesn't feed people, gold doesn't make weapons.


[01-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the ancient world, gold was useful because you could sell it in neighboring societies as jewelry


[01-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and jewelry was a big deal to distinguish the wealthy visually


[01-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society is built differently today.


[01-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a post-apocalypse, the wealthy would distinguish themselves with relics of the past.


[01-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, Fallout using literally bottle caps as currency with NO RESOURCE BAKKING makes plenty of sense


[01-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no universal non-consumable valuable resources to use as bakking in such a society.


[01-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, bottle caps are probably too easy to produce as counterfeit in the long term, but you get the idea.


[01-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fiat currency is a big deal.


[01-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MorrisF56319135/status/1190076078590529536

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https://twitter.com/MorrisF56319135/status/1190076078590529536
@GavinNewsom @JenSiebelNewsom Exactly..millions of Californians are taking the spook out of our state!

https://t.co/heXZqzNOqb
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[01-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
I'm confused


[01-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't heard of anything that newsom's done which would deserve a recall


[01-Nov-19 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://ballotpedia.org/Gavin_Newsom_recall,_Governor_of_California_(2019)

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Gavin Newsom recall, Governor of California (2019)
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[01-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there's TWO recall petitions floating around right now


[01-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
"The first recall, which was submitted by Erin Cruz, was approved for circulation by the secretary of state on September 6, 2019. Supporters of that recall have until February 13, 2020, to collect 1,495,709 signatures to force a recall election."
> The recall petition alleges that Newsom mismanaged the state and caused poor schools, deteriorating infrastructure, high costs for gas and utilities, and increased homelessness and debt. Her recall petition also criticized Newsom's support of certain policies, which included Medicare for All and laws that aid immigrants living in the country illegally.


[01-Nov-19 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
"The second recall was submitted by James Veltmeyer and was approved for circulation by the secretary of state on September 27, 2019. Supporters of that recall have until March 5, 2020, to collect 1,495,709 signatures to force a recall election."
> The recall petition criticizes Newsom due to tax increases, the rate of homelessness in major cities, sanctuary city policies, and his support for providing healthcare to immigrants living in the country illegally.


[01-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
it seems that tweet is to a site run by people who support the second recall petition


[01-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
```Do note, Fallout using literally bottle caps as currency with NO RESOURCE BAKKING makes plenty of sense```


[01-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
in original games, it was backed by water.


[01-Nov-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
managed by Hub merchant guild. And got rather swiftly dropped as power shifted and NCR expanded with their own currency. THAT was apparently backed by... fuck all, really (they said gold, but your point stands, it would only have value within NCR society), and when their position declined with BOS war, people happily picked up bottle caps again.


[01-Nov-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, there's little explanation on it's use outside of California.


[01-Nov-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
and I'm 99% sure Bethesda simply didn't care enough to think it through.


[01-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All people have against California is poop on the streets


[01-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which honestly is a total Surprised Pikachu


[01-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Don't allow bathroom use without purchase


[01-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Homeless shit on the streets


[01-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really the problem could be easily solved if we just had public toilets at regular intervals


[01-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
but those are socialism.


[01-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[01-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251 (pinned)
That's why Charlie Kirk buys his own private diaper to shit in.


[01-Nov-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[01-Nov-19 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
His face is so small


[01-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only AOC feet pics can make it larger


[01-Nov-19 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/636334314560290826/image0.jpg

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[01-Nov-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
perfection.


[01-Nov-19 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/634872421664686140/image0.jpg

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[01-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao


[01-Nov-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43k7z3/nationwide-fake-host-scam-on-airbnb

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I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb
How easy is it to exploit Airbnb? While searching for my grifter, I found out.
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5d9e93a5df2b7c000ad4773c/lede/1570673884464-AIRBNB_SCAM_ELABORATE_MASTERPIECE_LK-2.png?crop=0.9977777777777778xw:1xh;center,center&resize=1200:*


[01-Nov-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
> I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb


[01-Nov-19 10:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://imgur.com/gallery/wC7ho21

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Distinguished visitor at Shibuya on Halloween
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[01-Nov-19 10:45 AM] Opponent#3498
ah. That's where it's from


[01-Nov-19 10:45 AM] Opponent#3498
oof.


[01-Nov-19 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fd2765706ced4eb29c8737348c64d55c

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Sharply divided House approves Democrats' impeachment rules
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats swept a rules package for their impeachment probe of President Donald Trump through a divided House, as the chamber's first vote on the investigation highlighted the...
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[01-Nov-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0bd20e8132c94981b5fec650bd5b71d9

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Democrats push candidates to fully commit to 2020 nominee
The Democratic National Committee is increasing pressure on its presidential candidates to commit to campaign actively for the party's nominee in 2020, going beyond a previous loyalty pledge for...
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[01-Nov-19 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/british-teacher-fired-for-threatening-to-send-jewish-students-to-gas-chambers

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British teacher fired for threatening to send Jewish students to g...
The teacher reportedly told the students, 11 of whom were Jewish, that she was joking and asked them not to tell anyone.
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[01-Nov-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A British elementary school teacher was fired after telling Jewish students that she would “ship them off to the gas chambers” if they didn’t finish their schoolwork.

The Daily Mail reported Wednesday that the teacher at Newberries Primary School near London allegedly had told her students that she was “joking” and urged them not to tell anyone. But word had spread on the messaging app WhatsApp and the teacher was fired Friday.

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[01-Nov-19 02:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCWW80WTPY

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[01-Nov-19 02:33 PM] byte[]#2610
"millennials just want free stuff" https://i.redd.it/0rroeqr2vwv31.png

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[01-Nov-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the taxes however will be cheaper than paying some dumbass corporate CEO our entire house for a bottle of cold medicine


[01-Nov-19 02:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcHPmVxtFw8

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Why Debating Sucks (According To A Competitive Debater)
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[01-Nov-19 03:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/politics/washington-post-abc-november-poll/index.html

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Americans split again on impeachment, according to new poll
Americans are split along party lines on whether to impeach and remove President Donald Trump, according to a Washington Post/ABC News poll released Friday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191029164047-trump-pelosi-thumb-b-super-tease.jpg


[01-Nov-19 03:35 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/europe/barcelona-rape-sexual-assault-intl/index.html

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Five men acquitted of rape because unconscious teenage victim didn...
A court in Barcelona cleared five men of sexual assault charges on Thursday after saying the crime did not fit the legal definition of rape because the unconscious teenage victim didn't fight back.
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[01-Nov-19 03:35 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is wrong with spain


[01-Nov-19 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
> Under Spanish law, a sexual attack can only be classified as an assault or rape if the perpetrator uses violence or intimidation. Because the 14-year-old victim was unconscious, the five were convicted of a lesser charge of sexual abuse.


[01-Nov-19 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
excuse me


[01-Nov-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The charge will be changed, it's happened before, and the law's getting changed


[01-Nov-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
good


[01-Nov-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately who knows when, socialist parliament has been blocking or delaying practically everything for the last two years


[01-Nov-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/31/20942685/trump-fuel-efficiency-freeze-general-motors-toyota-chrysler

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Trump abandons plan to freeze fuel efficiency standards of cars
It’s a bad look for General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler
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[01-Nov-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[01-Nov-19 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
probably got a bunch of lobbyists to take turns sucking trump's dick until he said ok


[01-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2019-10-29/kevin-spacey-massage-therapist-criminal-case

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Kevin Spacey won't face criminal charges in groping case after acc...
The Los Angeles D.A. has closed a sexual abuse case filed against actor Kevin Spacey in the wake of the accuser's death last month.
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[01-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[01-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
> The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office on Tuesday said it would be declining the case filed against the Oscar winner. Prosecutors cited the death of the accuser during the course of their investigation. The man was an anonymous masseur who claimed the actor forced him to touch his genitals during a treatment at Spacey’s Malibu home in October 2016.


[01-Nov-19 04:33 PM] Crow#5457
that's incredibly convenient, isn't it


[01-Nov-19 04:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/giuliani-asked-apple-to-help-with-forgotten-iphone-password-after-trump-named-him-cybersecurity-adviser

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Giuliani asked Apple to help with forgotten iPhone password after ...
President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani needed to go to the Apple Store after getting locked out of his iPhone shortly after the president named him one of his cybersecurity advisers.
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[01-Nov-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow  https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20826590/car-pollution-emissions-president-trump-ford-volkswagen-bmw-california-deal

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Trump is mad some automakers want to make cleaner cars
Ford, Volkswagen, BMW, and Honda are bucking his attempted emissions rollback
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[01-Nov-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
8/21


[01-Nov-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
he's just trying to stick it to the libs


[01-Nov-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
even though more efficient cars have lower TCO and pollute less


[01-Nov-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the libs want to take him alive, maybe he should just own the libs by throwing himself off the white house roof


[01-Nov-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/elyobFh meanhile trump supporters are sending these kinds of voice mails to democratic congressmen (sound in source)

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Foreign and Domestic
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[01-Nov-19 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
ok this is epic


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
premium gamer moment


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm running for office now on the war in the US platform now


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
They thirst


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I'll shall let them more than sipp


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Every speech containing quotations from Pol Pot


[01-Nov-19 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Mask off now lads


[01-Nov-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is moving to florida from new york because he thinks that if he moves to florida then new york can;t investigate him...


[01-Nov-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that one was hilarious


[01-Nov-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
could also be for taxes or something too


[01-Nov-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
but I was thinking it was most likely him trying to flee the investigation


[01-Nov-19 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
imagine if trump flees the country if he loses the election


[01-Nov-19 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
using air force one


[01-Nov-19 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
```that's incredibly convenient, isn't it```


[01-Nov-19 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
no victim - no crime. I think that's fair *shrug*


[01-Nov-19 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
and for once, probably no foul play involved, cause it'd cost more to get rid of him cleanly than juggle the charges.


[01-Nov-19 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.armradio.am/2019/10/31/turkish-military-ban-armenians-from-returning-to-their-homes-in-tel-abyad/

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Turkish military ban Armenians from returning to their homes in Te...
The Turkish military ban Armenians from returning to their homes in the city of Tel Abyad in north S
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[01-Nov-19 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
aaaah. Like the good ol' days a century ago.


[01-Nov-19 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
some traditions do have a remarkably long shelf life.


[01-Nov-19 06:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Blizzcon very soon. I think they will avoid taking questions but I am curious what will happen.


[01-Nov-19 06:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Haven't they cancelled QnA?


[01-Nov-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
that would be a smart thing to do. And be up-front about 'why' - because people will try to start shit. Everyone knows it, and I think it needs to be said out loud.


[01-Nov-19 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/468549-tucker-carlson-millennials-drawn-to-socialism-because-current-system-isnt

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Tucker Carlson: Millennials drawn to socialism because 'current sy...
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said this week that young Americans are increasingly attracted to socialism because "our current system isn't working" for them when it comes to issues like college debt. Car
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[01-Nov-19 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
no shit it isn't working


[01-Nov-19 06:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It's like they almost get it.


[01-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"We need to move the crushing financial burden of student debt off the shoulders of middle-class families and 22-year-olds and back onto the people who’ve gotten rich from it," Carlson and Patel conclude. "That’s an idea every sensible person can support. And there’s a political payoff for any politician wise enough to adopt it."`


[01-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, they get it


[01-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They just can't talk about it on FOX NEWS


[01-Nov-19 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm reminded of how I think Alex Jones admitted during divorce hearings that it's just a character he plays


[01-Nov-19 06:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1190276923038920704?s=21

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He deleted it, so I just want to make sure everyone sees that Steven Crowder has managed to hit a new low.
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[01-Nov-19 06:54 PM] ononim#8141
wew


[01-Nov-19 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slutty The Brain


[01-Nov-19 07:14 PM] Crow#5457
no fucking shit the system isn't working


[01-Nov-19 07:14 PM] Crow#5457
this is exactly the same reason why theodore roosevelt was so gung ho about unions


[01-Nov-19 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://millercenter.org/president/roosevelt/domestic-affairs

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Theodore Roosevelt: Domestic Affairs | Miller Center


[01-Nov-19 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
I linked this before


[01-Nov-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
>  As chief executive, Roosevelt felt empowered by the people to help ensure social justice and economic opportunity through government regulation. He was not a radical, however; TR believed that big business was a natural part of a maturing economy and, therefore, saw no reason to abolish it. He never suggested fundamentally altering American society or the economy to address various economic and social ills. In fact, he often stated that there must be reform in order to stave off socialism; if government did not act, the people would turn to more extreme measures to seek remedies.


[01-Nov-19 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
> In fact, he often stated that there must be reform in order to stave off socialism; if government did not act, the people would turn to more extreme measures to seek remedies.


[01-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
it's also why teddy was so popular too


[01-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
he seriously should've gone for a third term


[01-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
he gave it up to that shill taft


[01-Nov-19 07:23 PM] Crow#5457
then he ran third party in the election after that and split the vote, so woodrow wilson won


[01-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wilsonianism is really shitty btw


[01-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's our current foreign policy doctrine


[01-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, you go out to "spread democracy" with armies who remove dictatorships, and in their place put neoliberalism


[01-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's about making sure other countries are friendly to unregulated businesses


[01-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not quite the Banana Republic approach, but in a way it's worse


[01-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It creates a whole network of semi-stable countries trying to keep it so the rich stay rich.


[01-Nov-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Wilsonianism is "America: Neoliberal World Police"


[01-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
um, we've installed more dictators than removed dictators


[01-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course


[01-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you don't install dictators, how will you remove more?


[01-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core idea is to manipulate world financial policy, not to actually "spread democracy"


[01-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
"spread democracy" is the lie you tell so the populace approves.


[01-Nov-19 07:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
see: Panama


[01-Nov-19 07:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
US comes in, installs dictator in favor of their interests, and when he becomes too unruly and knee-deep in drug trafficking, disposes of him


[01-Nov-19 07:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
To be honest we sorta of permitted him to wheel and deal drugs. The CIA was knee-deep in the drug trade all over, facilitating the heroin industry in south-east Asia to fund their operations and mercenary armies and likewise in Latin America. Their own aircraft company is recorded to have performed a lot of drug transport for organizations producing, refining, and distributing opium, heroin, and cocaine. Noriega just went past his expiration date.


[01-Nov-19 07:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, and Bush Sr. wanted some publicity, he wanted to seem like he was doing something for all his "war on drugs" talk


[01-Nov-19 07:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
deposing Noriega ran parallel to the "spread freedumb and democracee" rhethoric so it was a good opportunity


[01-Nov-19 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
honestly it just feels like the CIA is useless and counterproductive by this point


[01-Nov-19 07:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
But the thing that Rosevelt's doctrine proves and only proves is a tendency for relapse in the system when half-measures like his politics is taken. This is being repeated in Scandinavia is a slow erosion of their welfare state since private companies still hold the economy. While swift pro-union and anti-trust interests is good in the short-term, the same programs can be flaunted over time or even directly dismantled as the cries for profit eggs the same companies to chip away at them bit by bit. And since the programs rely entirely on these same companies to exist as a tax base, threats to relocate often prompt a re-writing of the laws to accommodate for them.


[01-Nov-19 08:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Noriega too in the politics of narcotics may have simply been left behind by changes in the economy and international politics of the trade, as the book I'm reading asserts of deposed drug lords and cartels over time. By the time of Bush Sr. communism wasn't as big a geopolitical threat to American interests in Latin America as the entire Cold War was over or in rapid de-escalation. So to protect Noriega in the interests of anti-Communism was a bygone policy and his tradecraft didn't need to be tolerated.


[01-Nov-19 08:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, the American capitalist hegemony is dependant on an ever-present enemy, be it the nazis, the communists, drug lords, jihadis...


[01-Nov-19 08:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's roughly the same policy in other narcotics-based regimes or organizations elsewhere in the world. In post-war Europe the OSS and early intelligence organizations relied on and ignored the narcotics infractions of the Italian Mafia and Corsican Milieu to confront and battle communists in Southern Italy and Southern France.


[01-Nov-19 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it never points to what it can bring that would be positive, all America's rhethoric does is point towards an external threat


[01-Nov-19 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Likewise the CIA adopted the narcotics trade of French intelligence in Indochina as policy because the various Hmong hill tribes and the Kuomintang army in Thailand were major opium producers, and opium was a major liquid financial asset.


[01-Nov-19 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
as much as i hate China, at least their state diplomacy is decent, what with promises of investment with very little strings attached


[01-Nov-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/01/sorry-pundits-the-problem-isnt-polarization-republicans-have-lost-their-damn-minds/

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https://www.salon.com/2019/11/01/sorry-pundits-the-problem-isnt-polarization-republicans-have-lost-their-damn-minds/
America isn't "polarized": Republicans have lost their damn minds
Mainstream media loves the "both sides" narrative. But the real problem is that the GOP has snapped the tether
https://media.salon.com/2019/11/pelosi-schiff-gaetz-mccarthy-11011.jpg


[01-Nov-19 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-judicial-nominee-mocked-anti-rape-activists-and-praised-ethnonationalism/

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Anton Woronczuk
https://truthout.org/articles/trump-judicial-nominee-mocked-anti-rape-activists-and-praised-ethnonationalism/
Trump Judicial Nominee Mocked Anti-Rape Activists and Praised Ethn...
Steven Menashi's record shows a history of contempt for women, LGBTQ people and communities of color.
https://truthout.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2019_1031-steven-menashi-1200x800.jpg


[01-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
for some people, the book cover simply says it all.


[01-Nov-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oblivion character creator


[01-Nov-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/468595-vindman-instructed-not-to-talk-about-july-25-call-after-complaint-to-white#

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/468595-vindman-instructed-not-to-talk-about-july-25-call-after-complaint-to-white
Vindman instructed not to talk about July 25 call after complaint ...
National Security Council (NSC) official Lt. Col.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/vindmanalexander_102919upi_lead.jpg


[01-Nov-19 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
:ponythinking:


[01-Nov-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/11/donald-trump-s-intervention-leaves-boris-johnson-double-headache

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https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/11/donald-trump-s-intervention-leaves-boris-johnson-double-headache
Donald Trump’s intervention leaves Boris Johnson with a double h...
Donald Trump has waded into British politics, telling LBC host and Brexit Party CEO Nigel Farage that Boris Johnson's Brexit withdrawal agreement means that a US-UK trade deal can't be done, and adding that Johnson is “the exact right guy for the times”, while Jeremy Corb...
https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/homesection_image/public/blogs_2019/11/gettyimages-1170765187.jpg?itok=fbffIyhZ


[01-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is that judicial nominee the one that ran away from a hearing in tears?


[01-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't believe so?


[01-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/468603-police-investigate-facebook-post-about-australian-mom

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/468603-police-investigate-facebook-post-about-australian-mom
Police probing Facebook post about Australian mom giving out chick...
Police are reportedly investigating after an Australian anti-vaccination mom said Wednesday that she would be handing out chickenpox-infected lollipops for Halloween.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/halloween_10212017.jpg


[01-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Actual bioterrorism.


[01-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also this


[01-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/politics/beto-orourke-drops-out.html

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By Alexander Burns
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/politics/beto-orourke-drops-out.html
Beto O’Rourke Is Dropping Out of the Presidential Race
The former Texas congressman, who energized Democrats in a Senate race last year, began his White House run to great fanfare, but failed to build significant support.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/11/01/us/politics/01beto-out/01beto-out-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Run for senator now.


[01-Nov-19 10:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Beta down


[01-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Top WH counsel testifies Monday


[01-Nov-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/31/775038966/isis-confirms-baghdadis-death-and-names-his-successor

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https://www.npr.org/2019/10/31/775038966/isis-confirms-baghdadis-death-and-names-his-successor
ISIS Confirms Baghdadi's Death And Names His Successor
The Islamic State named Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Quraishi as its new leader days after ISIS founder Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi killed himself during a U.S. raid on his compound in northwest Syria.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/10/31/191030-d-zz999-001y_wide-29365ac0239f3bfe44006c976cccda779807403a.jpeg?s=1400


[02-Nov-19 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/border-agents-can-now-get-classified-intelligence-information-experts-call-that-dangerous

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https://www.propublica.org/article/border-agents-can-now-get-classified-intelligence-information-experts-call-that-dangerous
Border Agents Can Now Get Classified Intelligence Information. Exp...
The Trump administration is creating a center that will give immigration agents access to information from U.S. intelligence agencies. Migrants and others denied entry will be unable to see the evidence against them because it is classified.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20191101-extreme-vetting-1200x630.jpg


[02-Nov-19 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Tell me again how these guys are not the SS


[02-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have less training


[02-Nov-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of competence?


[02-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/forget-impeachment-donald-trump-will-resign-next-year-scaramucci

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/forget-impeachment-donald-trump-will-resign-next-year-scaramucci
Scaramucci: Forget impeachment, Trump will resign next year
Former Trump ally Anthony Scaramucci believes the president will resign next year
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2018/06/0/0/Anthony-Scaramucci-ap6.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[02-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently he was on Big Brother and his nickname was "The Mooch"


[02-Nov-19 12:47 AM] Treascair#7785
Dude was also figured before he even started at the WH. People promptly began measuring WH staffing in 'Scaramucci's'


[02-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just like how 80% of people that worked for Trump hate him now


[02-Nov-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
only 80%


[02-Nov-19 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
are you sure it's not like 99.5%


[02-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, publicly hate him


[02-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His 2020 campaign is running on "He's a dick bit gets shit done"


[02-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately, the shit he gets done is all shit


[02-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God all of these people calling the close door depositions star chambers


[02-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If these are star chambers every single grand jury is too


[02-Nov-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
how long until gas chambers for immigrants


[02-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Subpoenas for Rick Perry and  NSC lawyer


[02-Nov-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably sometime in 2020 when he starts running on a gas the illegals campaign


[02-Nov-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
"he can't be worse than nancy pelosi"


[02-Nov-19 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
"democrats are killing babies so this is fine"


[02-Nov-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"GAS THEM DOWN! GAS THEM DOWN!"


[02-Nov-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/468562-federal-judge-tosses-joe-arpaios-300m-defamation-lawsuit-against-cnn

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/468562-federal-judge-tosses-joe-arpaios-300m-defamation-lawsuit-against-cnn
Judge tosses out Joe Arpaio's $300M defamation lawsuit against CNN...
A federal judge has thrown out a $300 million defamation lawsuit filed by Joe Arpaio, Arizona’s former Maricopa County sheriff, against CNN and two other national media outlets.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/joearpaio_081817getty.jpg


[02-Nov-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Interesting in that had the circumstances been just a little bit different


[02-Nov-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
He would have standing


[02-Nov-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Welfare for me but not for thee https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/468504-report-nearly-40-percent-of-farm-income-coming-from-aid-and-insurance

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/468504-report-nearly-40-percent-of-farm-income-coming-from-aid-and-insurance
Report: Nearly 40 percent of farm income coming from aid, insurance
A new report by American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) projects that nearly 40 percent of American farmers' income will come from either trade aid, disaster assistance, the farm bill or insurance indemnities,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/farmers-immigration_1.jpg


[02-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll curse out the commie liberals in DC while collecting their state subsidy checks


[02-Nov-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean


[02-Nov-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
this is literally socialism


[02-Nov-19 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
so


[02-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
IT'S NOT SOCIALISM, IT'S PROTECTING RED-BLOODED PATRIOT AMERICAN FARMERS SO YOU PUSSY ASS LIBERALS IN CALIFORNIA HAVE CORN REEEEeeeee


[02-Nov-19 02:19 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[02-Nov-19 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[02-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/468644-gop-senators-prepared-to-acknowledge-quid-pro-quo-plan-to-argue-it-was-legal

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GOP senators prepared to acknowledge quid pro quo, plan to argue i...
An increasing number of GOP senators are preparing to acknowledge that there was a quid pro quo in President Trump’s leveraging of military aid with Ukraine as a means to urge the country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald3_110119getty.jpg


[02-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a super terrible strategy holy shit


[02-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's like if they had argued that there was collusion and obstruction but it was ok


[02-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With Mueller


[02-Nov-19 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
How to get rekt.


[02-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're advancing in the narcissist's prayer.


[02-Nov-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stage 2: It wasn't that bad.


[02-Nov-19 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lawyers will then say it's a fukking crime


[02-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
at which point comes Stage 3: It's not that big a deal to commit a crime to try to destroy your political rival.


[02-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike the normal prayer, we're dealing with actual legal processes, so there is no stage 4


[02-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're going to get destroyed in stage 3


[02-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents cannot stomach a political party that believes that the law does not apply in regards to political opponents.


[02-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither will judges.


[02-Nov-19 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
:hopeless:


[02-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would be nice if Republicans couldn't stomach it either.


[02-Nov-19 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
feeling hopeless


[02-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, would be nice if they actually had morality.


[02-Nov-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The argument I am now facing is how to explain how QPQ differs substantially from a normal deal struck with a foreign government


[02-Nov-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The followup argument, that it can't be on account of us releasing the aid without them holding up their end, is much easier to tackle


[02-Nov-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
qpq for the nation is fine


[02-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
qpq for his own gain (including his reelection) is not


[02-Nov-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah but that's the catch


[02-Nov-19 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for republicans, they are one and the same thing


[02-Nov-19 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The impossible argument to overcome is that the nation at large *does* benefit from Trump investigating Crowdstrike/Burisma


[02-Nov-19 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(neither of which is a credible theory, but that's not stopping them)


[02-Nov-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
if it did then they'd go through the proper legal channels to do that


[02-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_breathes in_


[02-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ARTICLE TWO


[02-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THIS LITTLE THING NO ONE EVER MENTIONS


[02-Nov-19 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how many people have been stabbed to death with a butter knife


[02-Nov-19 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
huh?


[02-Nov-19 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated sorta


[02-Nov-19 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
is this about tartarus


[02-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[02-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just my general exasperation and despair for the state of things


[02-Nov-19 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The other day at lunch I walked through a restaurant and just...there was a dude sitting there reading a newspaper with an open folding knife just sitting on the table next to him. I get the sense this wouldn't happen in the UK


[02-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on blade length, but anything over a keychain pocketknife is a no


[02-Nov-19 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah this had to be at least 4" if not 5"


[02-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd be a no, then


[02-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In Germany I can't carry a switchblade in my pocket


[02-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
BUT, I can carry around a machete, hatchet, axe, etc.


[02-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because those are work tools


[02-Nov-19 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I genuinely can't even figure out why he'd have it out in the first place, either. He certainly wasn't using it to solve the daily jumble, and he hadn't ordered anything to eat that would've required some good ol' fashioned cutting...he hadn't ordered anything, tbh


[02-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he'd just eaten an apple?


[02-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or cut his nails?


[02-Nov-19 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless he ate that apple core and all, no


[02-Nov-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
just wanted to show how badass he was


[02-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My father still uses a knife to shave his nails, makes me grimace


[02-Nov-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it's like people who open carry


[02-Nov-19 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
to show how real fuckin' badass they are


[02-Nov-19 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
"I am strong because I have gun"


[02-Nov-19 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think even they would draw the gun and put it on the table out of view behind the giant newspaper they're reading


[02-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, those people that go buy their Kraft marshmallows with an AR-15 slunk around them and a 1911 holstered on their hip, in the most god damn whitebread places in the country


[02-Nov-19 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[02-Nov-19 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they're even goofier than the people who say "thank you for your service" to mall cops


[02-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
```Unfortunately, the shit he gets done is all shit```


[02-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, I wonder if we ever get to see someone like him, but competent. Little to no morals, but actually doing useful shit. Abandon allies at a drop of a hat, but only when there's benefit to it for at least his party, if not the country, and not because reasons and bribes. _Solve_ the immigrant question instead of talking about it forever, by whatever means nessesary. And so on.


[02-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
would be scary and much harder to get rid of.


[02-Nov-19 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically putin?


[02-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
you overestimate Putin. But, yeah, that's a step in a right direction... if only because Trump really set a special bar of special.


[02-Nov-19 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well actually hitler is a more apt comparison but everyone gets mad when i compare things to hitler


[02-Nov-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Hitler is a fantastic comparison


[02-Nov-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Stalin


[02-Nov-19 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is basically incompetent hitler


[02-Nov-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Nah


[02-Nov-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is retarded nixon


[02-Nov-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that;s a better comparison


[02-Nov-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
My neuroscience professor recounted to me today one of his anecdotes about the nixon presidency


[02-Nov-19 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Nixon compiled a task force to address hunger; the report published by the lead scientists basically said "the US is overproducing food in massive quantities and selling it abroad at a profit; this food should be subsidized by tax dollars and given to the poor instead"


[02-Nov-19 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Nixon suppressed the report


[02-Nov-19 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
And fired the task force


[02-Nov-19 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/pwDwZjxo4eg

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LegalEagle
https://youtu.be/pwDwZjxo4eg
Quid Pro Quo? Taylor and Vindman testify (Real Law Review)
Was there a quid pro quo? What is a quid pro quo? What’s the big deal. Legal Eagles get 2 months of unlimited learning on Skillshare for FREE: https://skl.sh...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pwDwZjxo4eg/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Nov-19 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony


[02-Nov-19 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
ehhhh. 30k killed isn't in combat, it's total losses, with civilians making up a huge percentage of losses.


[02-Nov-19 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
but w/e, this isn't about that.


[02-Nov-19 07:03 AM] Opponent#3498
he's clearly very confused about actual Ukraine issue, but evidently his lessons he's plugging so hard tell him he needs to fake it till he makes it xD


[02-Nov-19 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50272171

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50272171
Trump says Beto O'Rourke 'quit like a dog'
The US Democratic presidential hopeful, a fierce Trump critic, ended his campaign on Friday.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/16954/production/_109500529_mediaitem109500528.jpg


[02-Nov-19 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
what is trump's obsession with comparing everything to dogs


[02-Nov-19 09:33 AM] Treascair#7785
because he treats everyone else like a bitch.


[02-Nov-19 10:24 AM] ononim#8141

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[02-Nov-19 10:24 AM] ononim#8141

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[02-Nov-19 10:24 AM] ononim#8141
https://antoine-roquentin.tumblr.com/post/188758476843/minor-diplomatic-kerfuffle-in-south-america#_=_

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On Not Living in the End Times
https://antoine-roquentin.tumblr.com/post/188758476843/minor-diplomatic-kerfuffle-in-south-america
On Not Living in the End Times
Minor diplomatic kerfuffle in South America. Eduardo Bolsonaro, the 35 year old son of the President of Brazil, who likes to livestream himself playing CS GO (famed team MIBR are friendly with him and...
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[02-Nov-19 10:24 AM] ononim#8141
```    Minor diplomatic kerfuffle in South America. Eduardo Bolsonaro, the 35 year old son of the President of Brazil, who likes to livestream himself playing CS GO (famed team MIBR are friendly with him and his dad) and shooting at firing ranges (when he’s not crying at them) retweeted this comparison of him on the right and the 24 year old son of the Argentinean president elect Estanislao Fernandez, who works as a graphic designer and likes to crossplay (click through for some great costumes) on the left. Estanislao didn’t reply directly, but criticized Eduardo on his own twitter account for being a failson who made all his money from his father while he works for a living and had to sell his costumes to make ends meet. President Bolsonaro is currently trying to appoint Eduardo to the plum job of ambassador to the United States. When asked to defend himself, Eduardo replied “I have experience around the world. I have done a student exchange program. I know how to fry hamburgers. … I can speak English. and I’ve seen closely the great respect that Americans have for Brazilians.”```


[02-Nov-19 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/dyhzyx/status/1190074842789351429

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[02-Nov-19 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think Trump is trying to do the erdogan thing where he refers to people as dogs instead of humans if he views them lower than himself


[02-Nov-19 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/world/middleeast/lebanon-military-aid.html

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White House Freezes Military Aid to Lebanon, Against Wishes of Con...
The indefinite hold halts a $105 million package that the State Department and Congress had approved. Analysts say the winners could be Iran, Russia, the Islamic State and Al Qaeda.
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[02-Nov-19 12:18 PM] byte[]#2610
_How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?_


[02-Nov-19 12:18 PM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) how much money on "it's another illegal qpq"


[02-Nov-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
105 million


[02-Nov-19 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-official-who-heard-trumps-call-with-ukraine-leader-testified-that-he-was-told-to-keep-quiet/2019/11/01/dbed7fae-fc07-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html


[02-Nov-19 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Boom


[02-Nov-19 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Headshot


[02-Nov-19 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many other countries trump has currently dragged into illegal qdp's


[02-Nov-19 12:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/01/political-corruption-real-time-viral-video-shows-north-carolina-gop-sabotaging

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'Political Corruption in Real Time': Viral Video Shows North Carol...
"This isn't just a harmless game. It's the reason there's no budget in North Carolina."
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[02-Nov-19 12:44 PM] byte[]#2610
> Isn’t this the same representatives that told Democrats they wouldn’t take a vote on overturning a veto on 9/11 then voted while the Democrats were attending 9/11 events

> So basically here's how it went:
> 
> 1. the North Carolina Republicans gerrymandered themselves into a majority in the State House and State Senate, despite losing the overall vote total for both.
> 
> 2. Because Governor is a statewide vote they lost to Democrat Roy Cooper.
> 
> 3. The gerrymandered legislature passed a Republican flavored budget, which Cooper then vetoed.
> 
> 4. They did not have the numbers to override the veto in either the House or the Senate.
> 
> 5. They pulled the 9/11 stunt to get the veto-override bill passed in the House.
> 
> 6. OP's video is part of their attempt to do something similar to get it passed in the Senate. They constantly schedule it for a vote, but cancel the vote if the Democrats show up, waiting for a time when enough Democrats don't show up that they can pass a bill they know won't pass the full Senate.
> 
> This is possible because in order to pass, a chamber needs a *quorum* (a certain number of members present) and then a majority (or 2/3) of *those present* to vote in favor, not a majority or 2/3 of the *full body*. The quorum rule is designed to allow a certain percentage of the body to act as the full body, so that business can get done despite the many circumstances that could preclude a member from attending. It was never intended to be abused like this.


[02-Nov-19 12:47 PM] byte[]#2610
This is so cartoonishly evil I don't even know where to start


[02-Nov-19 12:47 PM] byte[]#2610
It's like a plot from a fucking comic book


[02-Nov-19 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it;s north carolina...


[02-Nov-19 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mulvaney-on-way-out-after-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-2019-11

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Trump just hinted Mick Mulvaney is on his way out after he publicl...
President Donald Trump refused to comment on whether he's happy with Mick Mulvaney's performance as chief of staff.
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[02-Nov-19 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[02-Nov-19 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly mulvaney should have just stuck to his claims in spiteof trump and left on his own to testify


[02-Nov-19 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead he tried to retract his statements, when that failed he told people "It happened, get over it!" in an attempt to suck Trump's dick in hopes of keeping his job which was never going to happen anyway


[02-Nov-19 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3d88f6f2ced042b6a1033f6f4f77a8f2

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Trump says Chad Wolf to be next acting DHS secretary
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Friday said Chad Wolf, a longtime Homeland Security official, would be the new acting head of the department, the fifth person in the job for this...
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[02-Nov-19 02:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1190207367671095301?s=20

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NBC News (@NBCNews)
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Syrian President Assad said on Thursday that President Trump is the best type of president for a foe due to his open talk of annexing Middle Eastern oil. https://t.co/B9AZdnwoRK
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[02-Nov-19 04:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/we-knew-ex-oil-boss-says-climate-change-with-us-forevermore-20191101-p536fb.html

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'We knew': Ex oil boss says climate change 'with us forevermore'
It's rare for a current or former leader of one of the global energy giants to testify under oath about climate change. Former Exxon Mobil boss Rex Tillerson just did.
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[02-Nov-19 04:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/02/super-rich-leave-uk-labour-election-win-jeremy-corbyn-wealth-taxes?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Super-rich prepare to leave UK 'within minutes' if Labour wins ele...
Wealthy see potential taxes imposed by Jeremy Corbyn as bigger threat than Brexit
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[02-Nov-19 04:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theintercept.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=43fc0c0fce9292d8bed09ca27&id=92060d1973&e=4283428530

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Undocumented Migrants’ “Black Vests” Movement Emerges in France
The gilets noirs took their name from the gilets jaunes, or yellow vests movement. They won't let migrants be blamed for global inequality.
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[02-Nov-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 >smh.com.au


[02-Nov-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
indeed, smh


[02-Nov-19 04:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Smh my head


[02-Nov-19 04:34 PM] Crow#5457
that "super rich leaving the country" bullshit is such an empty threat


[02-Nov-19 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope they leave in golden canoes


[02-Nov-19 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't seem like a threat, it seems like a bonus


[02-Nov-19 04:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
But if the super rich leave, then we can't tax them for all that money we never taxed them for in the first place 😨 😨 😨


[02-Nov-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we shoot down their private jets instead?


[02-Nov-19 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Private jets have air crew that are just jobbers like anyone else


[02-Nov-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that would be a problem


[02-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The most dangerous profession in any action movie is pilot


[02-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hero needs to take down a villain? Just shoot the pilot


[02-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Villain is escaping? RPG the chopper


[02-Nov-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fight in the cabin? Gun goes off, pilot gets killed


[02-Nov-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude's just a chartered pilot, basically an uber, and always gets got


[02-Nov-19 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And no one gives a shit


[02-Nov-19 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like if the cops were chasing someone down in New York and the baddie ran into a taxi and they all just unload into a cab driver


[02-Nov-19 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, no, that sounds plausible...


[02-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow yeah it sounds more like a bougie temper tantrum


[02-Nov-19 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that it somehow works


[02-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where are they supposed to go? They can't apply for citizenship in other countries, the UK government will still tax them


[02-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless they shovel their money off into offshore bank accounts that is


[02-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which already happens


[02-Nov-19 04:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All the time


[02-Nov-19 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they move accounts, they'll be taxed where the accounts are


[02-Nov-19 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EU doesn't tax by nationality


[02-Nov-19 04:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[02-Nov-19 04:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds reasonable for the poorer people but not in regards to the rich


[02-Nov-19 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've heard this argument being thrown around by neoliberals, that an excessive tax base would scare "investors" away


[02-Nov-19 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But it says more about the billionaires being spoiled brats than any potential flaw within the proposed tax system


[02-Nov-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no channel like this one to take the piss out of neoliberals


[02-Nov-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
even the conservatives here fucking hate the neolibs


[02-Nov-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[02-Nov-19 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-warren-feasibility-analy/warrens-big-healthcare-plan-relies-on-big-assumptions-idUSKBN1XB52O

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Warren's big healthcare plan relies on big assumptions
Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren's plan for universal hea...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191101&t=2&i=1447452448&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA03HR


[02-Nov-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my bigger question is why media assumes we don;t know about the additional costs that will likely be no where near as bad as our current bankrupting healthcare system


[02-Nov-19 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Nov-19 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610

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[02-Nov-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will also be a slow, rough transition, change takes time and will likely not feel as succesful at first


[02-Nov-19 05:22 PM] Raptorshy#6268

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[02-Nov-19 05:23 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's all I've got


[02-Nov-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not actually loss


[02-Nov-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
but it's a 4 panel medical comic


[02-Nov-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
so it's loss


[02-Nov-19 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stoneloss


[02-Nov-19 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Nov-19 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
pebble throw


[02-Nov-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-chat/trump-may-read-summary-of-ukraine-call-in-fireside-chat-interview-idUSKBN1XB43M

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Trump may read summary of Ukraine call in 'fireside chat': interview
"READ THE TRANSCRIPT!" U.S. President Donald Trump exhorts regularly o...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191101&t=2&i=1447471305&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA02SJ


[02-Nov-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
the summary


[02-Nov-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, a summary he wrote himself, just now on a napkin


[02-Nov-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
how about you read the actual transcript donnie


[02-Nov-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
everything you said


[02-Nov-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
not just the watered down readout


[02-Nov-19 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now children, have a seat because ol' donny is bout to read you the blurb on the back of the book, instead of the book itself!"


[02-Nov-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This summary is a masterpiece of literary craftsmanship!" - New York Times


[02-Nov-19 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The worst part of GDPR is sites that ask you for consent again and again every fucking day


[02-Nov-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
use a gdpr consent killer


[02-Nov-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
modern problems require modern solutions.jpg


[02-Nov-19 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/302786582237151233/640082987748294656/1570986664175.png

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[02-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Wasn't sure if to put here or episode Discussion


[02-Nov-19 06:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Force all the show writers to read Deleuze or Lacan let's go.

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[02-Nov-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
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[02-Nov-19 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ what the fuck


[02-Nov-19 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
(apparently blizzard is adding asian/african facial features for humans to world of warcraft in the next expansion)


[02-Nov-19 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/883732.jpg

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[02-Nov-19 07:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
"No one can be wrong when I change the definitions! Ah-ha!"


[02-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow actually pretty sure you already had a black skin option for humans. But getting more than generic face structure is kinda neat.


[02-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
I did say facial features


[02-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Opponent#3498
right


[02-Nov-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/smugglers-usd100-hardware-store-power-tools-saw-holes-in-trumps-usd10-billion-wall.html

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Smugglers Are Using $100 Hardware Store Power Tools to Saw Holes i...
“Walls work,” they said. So did fax machines.
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[02-Nov-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
welp


[02-Nov-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
> Smugglers Are Using $100 Hardware Store Power Tools to Saw Holes in Trump’s $10 Billion Wall


[02-Nov-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html


[02-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/latino/468671-smuggling-gangs-have-sawed-through-new-portions-of-trump-border-wall-report

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Smuggling gangs have sawed through new portions of Trump border wa...
Mexican smuggling gangs have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall with commonly available power tools and have created large enough openings for people and drugs to pass through,
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[02-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Some of the breaches have reportedly occurred in areas where electronic sensors, which would be able to swiftly detect vibrations from tools such as saws on the bollards, have not yet been installed.


[02-Nov-19 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
you'd think that would be a critical priority


[02-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As soon as they install sensors smugglers will just coordinate to have teams cut through a dozen different portions at the same time

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[02-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or they'll buy ladders.


[02-Nov-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ed1e6df3bdc04a59afd43718c43b6d89

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Native workers not sure what's next after coal plant closes
ALONG THE BLACK MESA AND LAKE POWELL RAILROAD, Ariz. (AP) — Ron Little nestles into a familiar seat aboard a train locomotive and slides the window open, leaning out to get a better view of dozens...
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[02-Nov-19 09:37 PM] ononim#8141
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https://twitter.com/Newsofiraq/status/1190655763250917376?s=20
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#شاهد || مقتل متظاهر أعزل على يد قناص من القوات الحكومية تحت جسر الجمهورية https://t.co/dWEsmlGxYn
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[02-Nov-19 09:37 PM] ononim#8141
Grapohic footage from Iraq


[02-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
damn, getting shot for trying to floss


[02-Nov-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/468689-mueller-notes-show-that-trump-wanted-stolen-clinton-emails-possessed#

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Mueller notes show that Trump wanted stolen Democratic emails poss...
President Trump and officials on his 2016 presidential campaign had several private conversations about how they could obtain stolen Democratic emails WikiLeaks had possession of in 2016, according to new interview notes from former special counse
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[02-Nov-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-justice-gay-lgbt-discrimination-civil-rights-1455977

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Trump administration argues anti-LGBTQ discrimination is legal bec...
The Trump administration filed a brief with the Supreme Court on Friday arguing that employers should be allowed to discriminate against, or even fire, their lesbian, gay and bisexual employees simply due to their sexual orientation.
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[02-Nov-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump Administration Argues LGBT Discrimination Is Legal Because Gay Men and Gay Women Are Treated Equally Poorly

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[02-Nov-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[02-Nov-19 10:04 PM] Lafabien1#3713
what? that has to be false, no way that's true. no one can be that dumb


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the actual Republican argument tho


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Lafabien1#3713
huh?


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
they argue that sexual orientation discrimination isn't on the basis of sex


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The law outlaws discrimination on the basis of sex


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the actual argument is


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
LGBT men and women are treated equal


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
non-LGBT men and women are treated equal


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
non-LGBT and LGBT aren't treated equal


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
THEREFORE NOT BASIS OF SEX


[02-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
However


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You've got to be fucking kidding me


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
this ignores that **if discrimination on the basis of sex means anything at all, it means treating someone worse for behavior than if they were a different sex, objectively**


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sexual orientation discrimination is absolutely on the basis of sex


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, two universes, everything held the same, but change only their sex


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
treated different, that's by definition discrimination


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
HENCE


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To say otherwise would imply that your sex has no control over what your orientation is called


[02-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you treat a guy worse for dating a guy than a woman, that's on the basis of sex


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Republicans don't want to akknowledge the definition.


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Lafabien1#3713
wouldn't it be more on the basis of sexual preference?


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to use their own twisted logic instead.


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Lafabien1#3713
wut


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because everything else is held the same


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They both are dating a guy


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing being changed between the scenarios is their sex


[02-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
which treatment **hinges** on


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Lafabien1#3713
but what if a person is bi?


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't change the hinging.


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider for a moment


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
a man and a woman both smoke a cigar in the office


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
in the same way


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the same time


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Lafabien1#3713
yes


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You fire the man only


[02-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Lafabien1#3713
go on


[02-Nov-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You say you're firing him because he's a cigar-liking-man


[02-Nov-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And society says that cigar-liking-men are bad, while cigar-liking-women are not


[02-Nov-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society further says women smoke cigarettes


[02-Nov-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, to reverse that, that they smoke cigars, but not cigarettes.


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you fire a woman for smoking cigarettes, but not a man


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You then say, that you aren't firing on the basis of sex


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're firing on the basis of smoking preference


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
*That* is the Republican argument.


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Firing based on sex stereotypes is on the basis of sex tho


[02-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, which is the whole point I'm making


[02-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Lafabien1#3713
so like if a dude plays with dolls people will judge him but wont do that to a girl?


[02-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Firing based on sexual preference when viewed with an objective lens isn't firing on a person's preference alone


[02-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's firing because of the person's sex mismatching societal expectations for preference.


[02-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that is by definition sexual discrimination.


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Firing a guy who plays with dolls, but not a woman for doing the exact same, is also discrimination on the basis of sex.


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Republicans would argue it's just firing on the basis of doll-playing.


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's their argument.


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All I can say is


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Lafabien1#3713
that's a dumb argument


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The optics of doing this shit looks bad


[02-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But of course it will being support out


[02-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Refuse to make something for gays, you'll get lots of support and backlash, both


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related note


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Civility may be dead


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But haven't we wanted it killed for a long time?


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Lafabien1#3713
huh? do you mean stuff like having the lgbt flag in your logo during pride month?


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The current world we have now is exactly what the majority have always wanted


[02-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh no that's just dumb rainbow washing BS


[02-Nov-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's just marketing shit, "buy our stuff cause we support you this month!"


[02-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Lafabien1#3713
i cant stand stuff like that


[02-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Lafabien1#3713
they just do it to make a quick buck


[02-Nov-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[02-Nov-19 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once the month is over the lbgt community can go fuck itself as far as profits are concerned


[02-Nov-19 10:19 PM] Lafabien1#3713
hell, even companies who did anti-lgbt stuff in the past "celebrated" pride month


[02-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
dolla dolla get holla


[02-Nov-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chick-fil-a's only claim to fame anymore is that they;re the own the libs version of kfc


[02-Nov-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is apparently working as far as marketing goes


[02-Nov-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think


[02-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a poor long-term strategy


[02-Nov-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want a young customer base for unhealthy foods


[02-Nov-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
My school closed down their CFA express and moved it to make room for a full sized Chik Fil A


[02-Nov-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I am not outraged enough to do anything about it


[02-Nov-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm just pissed, because the pride clubs have been fighting them on this for years


[02-Nov-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
And it seemed like they were finally going to get their way


[02-Nov-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Nope! Fuck you, libs owned


[02-Nov-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
chick-fil-a isn't even christian kfc


[02-Nov-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
it doesn't have buckets of chicken, just plain-looking sandwiches


[02-Nov-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kfc if it was a sunday church communion


[02-Nov-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really boring, no real substance, and they;re closed on sundays so you can go to actuall church communions


[02-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's pickle juice


[02-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're supporting a company that hates gays over pickle juice


[02-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the secret ingredient


[02-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://b.zmtcdn.com/data/menus/405/17008405/337ddf64047b010853476810fc66f36a.jpg

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[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Lafabien1#3713
looks good


[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Lafabien1#3713
politics aside, i'd eat that


[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
the deluxe sandwich (both spicy and non-spicy), the chicken club, and the cool wrap are the most interesting things on that menu, but everything on that menu is available at other places


[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
It's overpriced


[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
except the grilled nuggets


[02-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
never seen grilled nuggets anywhere else


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
At least compared to other offerings


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Lafabien1#3713
oh yeah.... now i notice the prices


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Those are all probably half the price of what chicken _should_ be sold at, but that's not the debate


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Other places beat their prices easily


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
And stay open on Sundays


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
lmao 430 calories for $6.29, jesus


[02-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
I never actually looked at their prices before


[02-Nov-19 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I can get a taco bell burrito for $1.99 that has 420 kcal


[02-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
there's a 4 for $4 meal at wendy's that's about 1000 kcal with a smaller chicken sandwich or burger, 4 chicken nuggets, a small fries, and a small drink


[02-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
granted, their regular sized stuff is more expensive, but it's still cheaper than chick fil a


[02-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Lafabien1#3713
sadly i dont have a wendy's here


[02-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Lafabien1#3713
:GWsetmyxPeepoCry:


[02-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
basically, chick fil a is like wendy's but overpriced and missing all the burger options


[02-Nov-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I would love to have a wendy's on campus


[02-Nov-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
There's only a mcdonalds


[02-Nov-19 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
There used to be a burger king but they killed it to make room for CFA


[02-Nov-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they killed the better option to put in a chicken church?


[02-Nov-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[02-Nov-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's fucking dumb


[02-Nov-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I know right


[02-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
burger king has their impossible whopper


[02-Nov-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burger king would be 100 tiems mroe profitable for the college


[02-Nov-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my community college has a school run cafe instead of a company run resteraunt


[02-Nov-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again it;s a community college so it having a full on resteraunt would be weird


[02-Nov-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/468688-same-sex-love-scenes-word-lesbian-returned-to-delta-in-flight

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Delta Airlines will begin showing versions of the films “Booksmart” and “Rocketman” that include the movies’ same-sex love scenes and other LGBTQ references, the airline confirmed to The Hill Saturday.
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[02-Nov-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget that, the real trouble is the MPAA ratings board


[02-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
they hav a priest there at all times as they rate things


[02-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything same-sex gets a higher rating


[02-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
PG-13 sex scenes become R when it's lesbians


[02-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who even follows it anymore


[02-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like the ESRB, they only exist to keep the government out of things so we aren't like Australia.


[02-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Delta had a meme safety video for a while so they really aren't the best judge of what to take out or put in videos


[02-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Theaters follow it.


[02-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
An R rating is a death sentence for most movies


[02-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is on purpose


[02-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
to keep out movies that challenge societal ideas


[02-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468692-biden-defends-record-after-warren-attacks-im-a-card-carrying-democrat

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Former Vice President Joe Biden hammered Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) Saturday as the conflict between the two 2020 frontrunners continues to escalate.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-bidenwarren_101519getty.jpg


[02-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Drop out Joe


[02-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not the moderate Bernie or Warren will pick as VP either


[02-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd pick Sherrod Brown or Mark Warner


[02-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> the word 'lesbian'
Oh no, *girls* 😱😱😱


[02-Nov-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh god, these girl's aren;t being used as church breeding mules! BURN THE WITCH!

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[03-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hold up, there's a priest on the MPAA board?


[03-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Isn't that... more-or-less Australia basically?


[03-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Yuri#4154
https://ijr.com/republican-senator-filed-request-hillarys-emails/

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It's 2019 and a Republican Senator Just Filed a Request for Hillar...
Three years after the election, a Republican Senator is going after Hillary Clinton's emails.
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[03-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Yuri#4154
Why are they still obsessed with her?


[03-Nov-19 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because distraction


[03-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
because republicans have preciously little they can latch onto when it comes to democrats doing overtly shitty things


[03-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Yuri


[03-Nov-19 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
The emails thing wasn't even actual malice either


[03-Nov-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
The republicans demonstrate time and again that they will break the same rules they hold others to deliberately and bend over backwards to protect their own


[03-Nov-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It's vicious


[03-Nov-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://images.dailykos.com/images/590345/large/Tables_before-and-after.jpg?1537298736

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[03-Nov-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Damn


[03-Nov-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The emails thing gives their rabid sportsball fanbase a bone to chew on so they aren;t focused on the other shit hitting the fan


[03-Nov-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie @Itsthinking https://www.salon.com/2019/11/02/republicans-go-lower-theyre-publicly-spreading-the-name-of-purported-ukraine-whistleblower/

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Republicans spread name of purported Ukraine whistleblower
Rep. Louie Gohmert dropped the name during a public hearing while Rand Paul shared it to millions on Twitter.
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[03-Nov-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Marukomuru the priest isn't part of the actual board, but he's always in the room with them.


[03-Nov-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very not subtle reminder to REMEMBER THE CHURCH when rating movies


[03-Nov-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, classic intimidation tactics


[03-Nov-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're only getting sane whistleblower laws if Republicans completely collapse.


[03-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I doubt the whistleblower is actually that person


[03-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter, Its


[03-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is to get someone lynched


[03-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
in order to intimidate the center into working with fascists.


[03-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of these senators can be impartial jurors


[03-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They would all get struck if they were in a normal jury


[03-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Center is like "What if we only killed three million Jews instead?"


[03-Nov-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In this case it;s intimidation saying "We won;t go after this person, if you agree to just kill all the jews instead"


[03-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah.


[03-Nov-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well rather i think it;s "We'll spare the jews if you kill this person for us"

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[03-Nov-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either way, they named a person to intimidate the undecided


[03-Nov-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it's "kill the jews or we'll kill all of you instead"


[03-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
`but what if a person is bi?`


[03-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
they're treated worse by everyone :D


[03-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the employer says "oh good you dated a woman, but you better take down those photos of your ex boyfriend or you're fired"


[03-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the gay guy isn't required to take down a similar photo


[03-Nov-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
bi erasure


[03-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2019/11/02/millennials-extreme-hatred-for-baby-boomers-is-totally-unjustified/

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Millennials’ extreme hatred for Baby Boomers is totally unjustified
Baby boomers who cried “Don’t Trust Anyone Over 30” during the Vietnam War should be scared to death of millennials. Because, at least among the Twitterati, they hate us — they really, really hate …
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/boomer.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[03-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Boomer


[03-Nov-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Way to say that it's unjustified while living up to every single thing that justifies the catch phrase


[03-Nov-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God, even the generational divide phrase millennials/Gen Z came up with is better than the one Boomers did


[03-Nov-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
gen z and millenials get along fine for the time being


[03-Nov-19 03:08 AM] Mikey#7286
LOL


[03-Nov-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
because we're literally fighting against boomers ruining the fucking planet


[03-Nov-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking retire already


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like sure you write opinion pieces for a dumb rag newspaper


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
baby boomers singlehandedly fucked this country over


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
and


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
by extension


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But someone who is younger could have that job


[03-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Mikey#7286
the rest of the world in some ways


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
> Although it only partly blamed the phenomenon on millennial habits — e.g., preferring avocado and kale to beef and baked potatoes


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't tell if this is satire


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] Mikey#7286
:ponythinking:


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
or if he actually thinks that


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
poe's law I guess


[03-Nov-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah how dare millennials hate things that are healthy vs fat and starch


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> “Old man yells at lunch table” (I’m 69)


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
are you sure this isn't satire


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was talking about shit people mocked him with


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Boomers absolutely did have three martini lunches


[03-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> But if they spent more time studying actual history, which can’t easily be found on iPhones


[03-Nov-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[03-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PHONE AND WIFE BAD


[03-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird that Boomers complain about their wives so much


[03-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's almost like their generation has unhealthy approaches to relationships


[03-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
> Their lust to become CEOs at 25


[03-Nov-19 03:19 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I can understand him. Not entirely agree, but understand.


[03-Nov-19 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
I've been hanging around old folks A LOT. And, yeah, I can totes confirm that unless there's a crippling disability, 69 isn't 'old'. Old comes at 80-85 and crushes you.


[03-Nov-19 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
at least, well, here.


[03-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
as such, a lot of people at that point have more drive than, well, I do, for example. I only want to live to 35 and shoot myself. They want to leave a mark.


[03-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
cause that's curtain call, for realsies.


[03-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
hating neolibs is normal and encouraged, unchecked capitalism will kill this planet if China will not enslave us all first with their gamified lifestyle.


[03-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
hating older folks by default, because their generation didn't change this enough and let it reach the current scale... Ehh.


[03-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't hate older folks by default


[03-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
but I truly despise the ignorant


[03-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
and that goes for the ignorant of any generation


[03-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. That is much better.


[03-Nov-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I know some fantastic boomers


[03-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and a lot more totally retarded zoomers


[03-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
`Their lust to become CEOs at 25`


[03-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
this is ignorance.


[03-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Opponent#3498
his generation was fine with being a slave, with a promise to one day maybe get a whip, or maybe even make the rules.


[03-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
it's authority and power, it's something that all humans seem to lust for to varying degrees


[03-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Opponent#3498
today, people don't want power, now. They don't want money, now. They want to live. _Now_. Not in 40 years in retirement.


[03-Nov-19 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
it seems kind of funny that he's projecting his own lust for authority and power onto an entire younger generation


[03-Nov-19 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, he really does.


[03-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
we don't want to have every basic need of ours like food and water to be commodified


[03-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
we're tired of being relentlessly exploited by predatory banks and insurers


[03-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
we're the working class and we've been alienated entirely by the wealthy


[03-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
and they're contributing to global instability, poverty, and destroying the environment


[03-Nov-19 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
we're powerless to stop that, because they want to keep making money


[03-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
everyone who works for a wage is a member of the working class, that's one of the biggest lies that people have been convinced of is that if you make x amount of money, you're no longer "working class"


[03-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
the super wealthy don't work for a wage


[03-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
if they have a job, it's a sinecure


[03-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yhsgv-vu8E

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The Middle Class Is A Lie │ Means TV
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[03-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they live off their ever-growing pile of investments


[03-Nov-19 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. There was a saying here in USSR (back when the nations were still _it_)


[03-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
'If you're 20 and you're not a communist you don't have a heart. If you're 40 and you're still a communist, you have no brain'.


[03-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well, modify the definition a little bit as 'opposition to capitalism', and the second bit don't fly no more.


[03-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking blaming the wife is a classic cross-cultural thing.


[03-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is simple, you say that a person's family commitments and society commitments are at odds


[03-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore anything they are doing or saying against your idea of society is just folly.


[03-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
(And therefore is not really their fault and should not be listened to)


[03-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in a society where women are just sex slaves to make babies, you blame the wife.


[03-Nov-19 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk we make fun of communist/socialist societies with one brand of toilet paper or soup on the shelves, while we have 40 brands with the same ingredients on our shelves


[03-Nov-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare that UPPITY slave lead that good-natured man astray.


[03-Nov-19 04:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking The funny thing is there are companies catching on that having forty of the same thing doesn't work. Aldi caught on and is the foremost of recognizing that you only need three, or one. People are just as happier if not more so. There's a lot less buying stress.


[03-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even capitalists notice this in restaurants


[03-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's better to have a smaller menu in general than to offer everything


[03-Nov-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking See: these guys https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187147-d719401-r65322520-Le_Relais_de_l_Entrecote-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

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The best steak frites in Paris! - Review of Le Relais de l'Entreco...
Le Relais de l'Entrecote: The best steak frites in Paris! - See 2,397 traveler reviews, 720 candid photos, and great deals for Paris, France, at TripAdvisor.
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[03-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Something like if someone has to look at a menu for more than 50 seconds they're bewildered


[03-Nov-19 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When all you serve is steak


[03-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
having a smaller, preferably variable menu would keep people coming back because it both implies you're relatively good at what you can offer AND are willing to shake things up. Not sure how practical would that be.


[03-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's services, not mass-produces goods


[03-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
more flexible


[03-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My French teacher in the Midwest cautioned us not to order steak frites if we ever went to France


[03-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it just looks generic


[03-Nov-19 04:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why not just go to Brazil and have the food that's impossible to get anywhere else because none of the ingredients export, at all.


[03-Nov-19 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's stuff down there in some of the provinces that can only be eaten there because the ingredients turn literally in two or three days.


[03-Nov-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Why not just go to Brazil


[03-Nov-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bolsonaro. Next.


[03-Nov-19 04:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As a Brazilian, i agree


[03-Nov-19 04:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't come here


[03-Nov-19 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
🚫 :nut: 🇭 🇪 🇷 🇪


[03-Nov-19 04:46 AM] Mikey#7286
:goldenNUT:


[03-Nov-19 04:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CUM IN BRAZIL


[03-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DacVEq_VAAABYu-.jpg

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[03-Nov-19 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry all I see is a good reaction image to use against Europeans


[03-Nov-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 do you guys still seriously have the Sega Master System as a major system tho


[03-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, 'But if they spent more time studying actual history, which can’t easily be found on iPhones, they’d know that boomers were, and remain, the most socially and environmentally conscious generation America ever has ever known'


[03-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply if that article isn't satire then the writer's retarded.


[03-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally retarded.


[03-Nov-19 09:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking 
Here we points come to:
1) Capitalism ruins food. my example, i used to visit a medium priced restaraunt with quite uncommon meals (their own receipes), now they are generic steak/ribs/burgers place.
2) If you are for traditional food, dont go to tourist places and dont go to chain restaraunts.


[03-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of my coworkers eat out for lunch, paying 8-16 euro for honestly disappointing food


[03-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every day


[03-Nov-19 11:34 AM] ononim#8141
*checks out how much it is in rubles*


[03-Nov-19 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a stupid amount


[03-Nov-19 11:35 AM] ononim#8141

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[03-Nov-19 01:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're environmentally consious in so far as being consiously aware they're destroying the environment and not giving a fuck...


[03-Nov-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-healthcare/judge-blocks-trump-rule-requiring-prospective-immigrants-have-health-insurance-idUSKBN1XC0K8

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Judge blocks Trump rule requiring prospective immigrants have heal...
A federal judge in Oregon on Saturday temporarily blocked a Trump administration...
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[03-Nov-19 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-blast/turkey-blames-kurdish-militia-after-deadly-bombing-in-syrian-town-idUSKBN1XC0BW

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Turkey blames Kurdish militia after deadly bombing in Syrian town
A car bomb killed a dozen people and injured 30 on Saturday in a market of a Syr...
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[03-Nov-19 01:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/1190701270266454016

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statement by Chilean labor movement in which they state their objective of a constituent assembly to draft a new constitution that would restore the social rights lost with the coup of 1973 and a strike committee to coordinate the struggle https://t.co/4jNbExiLqF
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[03-Nov-19 01:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hong Kong: "who are you?"
Chile: "i'm you, but better."


[03-Nov-19 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
chile doesn't have a near-superpower with a population of 1.3 billion literally right next door breathing down its neck though


[03-Nov-19 02:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i can understand why the HKers are scared into mostly inaction


[03-Nov-19 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though just an organized statement by the protest leadership on what its goals are would be nice tbh


[03-Nov-19 02:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/03/this-lawmaker-thought-he-was-in-the-presence-of-a-transgender-woman-so-he-threatened-to-wave-his-penis-at-her/

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This lawmaker thought he was in the presence of a transgender woma...
And she wasn't transgender, either...
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[03-Nov-19 02:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:faceclaw:

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[03-Nov-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[03-Nov-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/11/trump-administration-allow-adoption-agencies-discriminate-lgbtq-people/

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Trump administration to allow adoption agencies to discriminate ag...
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[03-Nov-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Zeddary/status/1189955309659398144

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Zeddy (@Zeddary)
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@IvankaTrump You're quoting Jefferson's denial that he'd raped and impregnated a girl he kept as property. Which he did, in fact, do.
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[03-Nov-19 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-Nov-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/54d7c2a8bbf841669d32c7871b5ee8a5

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Trump absent, ASEAN charts path for trade bloc led by China
NONTHABURI, Thailand (AP) — Leaders from fast-growing Southeast Asian economies, China and other regional powers vowed Sunday to transcend conflicts over trade policies and territorial disputes...
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[03-Nov-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump apparently had better shit to move to florida this sunday


[03-Nov-19 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/lgUIsgMGTfU

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Lobbying 101: How to quash a bill through fearmongering featuring ...
What do you think of Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers' lobbying efforts? https://www.aham.org/AHAM/AuxContactUs
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[03-Nov-19 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lobbyists should be hung from telephone poles and their entrails used for pigfeed


[03-Nov-19 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's just my opinion


[03-Nov-19 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/11/02/uaw-president-gary-jones-take-leave-absence-amid-probe/4139958002/

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UAW president to take leave of absence amid federal corruption pro...
The surprising development Saturday follows the latest criminal charges in the UAW corruption probe. A dozen people  have been charged to date.
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[03-Nov-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Nov-19 04:04 PM] Crow#5457
video :reppy:


[03-Nov-19 04:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CM_fights/status/1190812460544135170

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Trump He just entered MSG and the crowded booed like hell.
#UFC244
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[03-Nov-19 05:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admits-border-wall-not-impenetrable-saw-cut-through-1469428

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Trump admits border wall is not impenetrable after reports parts h...
Smuggling gangs have reportedly used commercial power tools to cut through the new parts of Trump's controversial wall along the Mexican border.
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[03-Nov-19 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
> "We have a very powerful wall. But no matter how powerful, you can cut through anything, in all fairness," Trump told reporters in Washington, D.C. before his departure for New York City on Saturday evening.


[03-Nov-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
"very powerful wall" that's cut through within minutes using (relatively) cheap cordless power tools


[03-Nov-19 05:23 PM] Crow#5457
> But according to the Post, smugglers have learned how to cut the bollards and then return them to their positions so that the damage goes unnoticed, allowing the passage to be used multiple times.


[03-Nov-19 05:24 PM] Crow#5457
> But smugglers have also returned to the same bollards once they have been fixed and cut through the welds as the metal on those bollards is softer, the Post reported. They have also tried to trick agents by using a putty that looks like welding to make a bollard that has been cut look as if it is still intact.


[03-Nov-19 05:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/yoongixbuns/status/1190973461176475648?s=21

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This is my favorite song 
#TrumpBooedAgain  https://t.co/eebAF8qziw
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[03-Nov-19 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-leads-nomination-race-tops-trump-by-12-points-in-matchup

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Fox News Poll: Biden leads nomination race, tops Trump by 12 point...
Democratic primary voters increasingly feel the need to nominate a candidate who can beat President Trump in 2020, and more think Joe Biden can do that than any of the other top Democratic hopefuls.  In addition, while most Democratic primary voters are satisfied with their ...
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[03-Nov-19 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I sort of hate america tbh


[03-Nov-19 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Nov-19 06:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1190833738676129792?s=21

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[03-Nov-19 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
YOU HAVE A BLUE CHECKMARK YOU TWAT


[03-Nov-19 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-super-rich-elite-have-more-money-than-they-know-what-to-do-with-2019-10-28

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The super rich elite have more money than they know what to do with
The top 1% has run out of investing ideas, so they’ve parked $4.7 trillion in the bank.
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[03-Nov-19 06:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Burrrn


[03-Nov-19 06:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-mahers-show-has-gone-completely-off-the-rails

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Bill Maher’s Show Has Gone Completely Off the Rails
On Friday night, the host of HBO’s “Real Time” welcomed an anti-vaxxer and a right-wing propagandist onto his show. At times, he sided with both.
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[03-Nov-19 06:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maher's pretty much the poster boy for liberal elite


[03-Nov-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He has some lefty ideas he picked up from smoking weed, otherwise he's a rich conservative living in a bubble with a soapbox, loudspeaker, and overinflated ego


[03-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
so


[03-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
a boomer


[03-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't know what that means anymore


[03-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because literally, yes, he is a boomer, given the range he was born in


[03-Nov-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I only watch him for the opening monologues and the new rules segments


[03-Nov-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
The actual standup bits


[03-Nov-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
But sometimes the new rules are just mad cringe


[03-Nov-19 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's plenty that you can nod along to and go "Finally, someone these people listen to is saying it!", and then he does a hard turn into "BACK IN MY DAY WE WORKED ON SUNDAYS FROM EIGHT TO EIGHT TWENTY-FIVE CENTS AN HOUR AND WE LIKED IT"


[03-Nov-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
when bill maher was 20 years old, $6 would be worth $27 today


[03-Nov-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
(he was born 1956)


[03-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
25 cents an hour in 1976 would be $1.13 an hour today


[03-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maher once said he didn't believe germs caused disease


[03-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
the minimum wage was $2.30


[03-Nov-19 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-california-wildfires-twitter-gavin-newsom-federal-aid-latest-a9183216.html

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Trump vows 'no more' federal aid to California as devastating wild...
'You don’t believe in climate change. You are excused from this conversation,' state's governor tells Trump
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[03-Nov-19 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
> They'd gladly eat a shit sandwich if it meant a liberal had to smell their breath.


[03-Nov-19 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've had to deal with small room meetings with coworkers that have halitosis


[03-Nov-19 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally smells like a drunkard's shit, stored in a bucket for a day, then poked at with a stick


[03-Nov-19 07:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated but just thought y'all should know


[03-Nov-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
It never ends for Boeing does it


[03-Nov-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-congressman-avoid-kc-46-737-max-hearing-2019-10

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Leaked email reveals a Boeing executive tried to convince a congre...
A Boeing employee called the congressman's staff shortly before the hearing asking him to stick to questions about the 737 Max on Wednesday.
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[03-Nov-19 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fucking christ


[03-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
most common causes of halitosis are not flossing and not brushing the tongue


[03-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
then there's other stuff like smoking


[03-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Over half the company are heavy smokers


[03-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can see the appeal, free 10m+ breaks every other hour


[03-Nov-19 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Where's Bob, he's not been at his desk for a while and I need to talk"
"Smoke break?"
"Ah, OK"


[03-Nov-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the people in my hvac class are heavy tobacco chewers, I dont really get the appeal for that since it;s mostly grossly spitting in clear soda bottles, and not taking smoke breaks...


[03-Nov-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nicotine's a hell of a drug


[03-Nov-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess?


[03-Nov-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[03-Nov-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess what day it is one year from now


[03-Nov-19 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GARBAGE DAY?!


[03-Nov-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Close enough


[03-Nov-19 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
3rd of november?


[03-Nov-19 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh shit i just remembered remembered the fith of november


[03-Nov-19 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The OG joker


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, election day in the states


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the day america becomes a dumpster fire


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...well more of a dumpster fire


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean it's gonna be close to the 5th of november


[03-Nov-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How ominous


[03-Nov-19 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
Tomorrow we will have "Obligatory non socialist replacement to October Revolution Celebration day" aka "Obligatory National Unity day" aka "Yeeting the Poles day"


[03-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tomorrow we have "Monday" aka "go fuck yourself prole" day


[03-Nov-19 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah, I don't think "Yeeting the Poles" day would be apropriate in Germany


[03-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Back when I was in QA we had "Racist Fridays"


[03-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And since we had a pole in the department, it essentially boiled down to "meme at the poles Friday"


[03-Nov-19 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(though I'd get bullied for liking mexican food and everyone would bully the italians for changing their minds over anything or by showing them horrible food pictures)


[03-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a subreddit about that for a while I believe


[03-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just Italians getting overly aggressive about food


[03-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NVM is a Twitter account


[03-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/italiancomments?lang=en


[03-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People get super fucking pissed about food


[03-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's really true, though


[03-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mention within earshot that you had "pasta" last night and they suddenly perk up


[03-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
State something "wrong" and suddenly they boost their chair over and start shaking their head telling you you fucked up, that's not the RIGHT type of cheese, REAL ravioli doesn't have this or that spice, they give you the logistics of how how fussili or however they're called are supposed to work but only with the right type of sauce...


[03-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And we just respond with pictures of pizzaghetti or noodles with ketchup and hotdog slices


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I repost this a lot, but it's related


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
just post pineapple pizza


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxDLpXsW0AAYzWu?format=jpg&name=large

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[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
not realy?


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it's one of my favorite Boomer tier comics


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell someone you had pizza


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that the peanut sauce was excellent.


[03-Nov-19 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
It's about how "foreign" food is yukky till a trendy cook show made it into a cool thing

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[03-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
For bonus points, make it someone allergic to peanuts.


[03-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"The bacon bits made it pop, while the bbq sauce gave it a nice slow heat"


[03-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
"The macaroni and cheese on top could've come out better"


[03-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make an Italian cry in one image


[03-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Nov-19 09:00 PM] ononim#8141
okay but this is actually cursed


[03-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Needs more hummus


[03-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate that I know how to make that


[03-Nov-19 09:02 PM] ononim#8141

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[03-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget to tell a vegan how no dish is complete without cheese.


[03-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially not salad


[03-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Caviar is vegan, right?"


[03-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Does caviar go well with blue cheese?"


[03-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking Hey! How did you get pic of my own home-made dish?


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cinnamon rolls, but with cheese instead of icing and with a fish stikk inside.


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The funny thing to me is that the French are less obsessed than Italians


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite French cuisine being far superior to Italian


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like Italy knows they're second place


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
French just want you to try out their weird shit


[03-Nov-19 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty sure one of the panels at HAHcon was on how to make hairy hot dogs


[03-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Please accept this raw pork and stale cheese, please


[03-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
_refrigerates cheese_


[03-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, I was just thinking of fusion cuisine, you really don't see Italian fusion much


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What could you fuse it with that would work


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Greek, maybe?


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Asian food.


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
East asian noodles instead of spaghetti :^)


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As long it does not get commercialized.


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soy noodle spaghetti.


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
... you aren't supposed to refrigerate cheese?


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Indian could work, a few spices are shared


[03-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure the French don't like refrigerating cheese


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Indian spices


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
asian noodles


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
italian meatballs


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mexican


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Spaghetti burritos


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
With wasabi


[03-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and vegemite dessert.


[03-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meatballs in rice patties


[03-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coated in cheese


[03-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, a cheese sauce that hardens


[03-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I remember there was a good mixture of herbs, but it succumbed to corporate greed. Now, they mix something and 95% of red pepper.


[03-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And served in spaghetti


[03-Nov-19 09:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And there was traditional herb used in cooking one particular traditional dish, now it is lost to western world, but the land where the dish is made.


[03-Nov-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget parmesan cheese, made in somewhere that's not in Europe. Make sure to call it such.


[03-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then put the recipe on a stone tablet and send it the Moon


[03-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
so long after Italy is gone


[03-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
some alien will find how to make it


[03-Nov-19 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Made from the finest Tennessee hogs' milk"


[03-Nov-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Include all the chemical compositions and such so they can perfectly replicate it.


[03-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate form of disrespect to EU ideas of THIS THING CAN ONLY BE MADE HERE


[03-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hav it be made after "here" no longer exists.


[03-Nov-19 09:14 PM] ononim#8141
... you aren't supposed to refrigerate cheese? [2]


[03-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
*France*


[03-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some EU places get uptight about that because it's basically like a random burger joint saying they serve the McRib


[03-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They have a lot riding on brand recognition and all that


[03-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
...you don't know?


[03-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
TSP, McDonald's lost a lawsuit


[03-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Burger King put literally "almost mcrib" etc. on their menu for a while in some places


[03-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
in the EU


[03-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or maybe that was the Big Mac? But like, same idea.


[03-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, McD's decided to go against a place that had the Mc name earlier


[03-Nov-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, it was the Big Mac


[03-Nov-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[03-Nov-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I really think it's just a self-EU bias thing


[03-Nov-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They would never bend over bakkwards to defend some American claim on a name of something invented there


[03-Nov-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll really put them in a spot of bother if another continent forms something similar anytime soon.


[03-Nov-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141
>They would never bend over bakkwards to defend some American claim on a name of something invented there


[03-Nov-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141
based


[03-Nov-19 09:34 PM] ononim#8141
and anti-yank pilled


[03-Nov-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie They threatened to stop labeling Idaho potatoes and Washington apples unless the US stopped letting manufacturers call things Parmesan/bratwurst etc


[03-Nov-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or bourbon, that's a big one that the US is trying hard to fight


[03-Nov-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though I imagine it's not really wanted much in Europe anyway


[03-Nov-19 09:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
LEGALLY REQUIRED AMOUNT OF CHERRIES


[03-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This pie is just one cherry short of the legal required amount, I'm afraid as a health inspector I just can;t let this stand"


[03-Nov-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://soranews24.com/2019/11/03/microsoft-japans-experiment-with-3-day-weekend-boosts-worker-productivity-by-40-percent/

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Microsoft Japan's experiment with 3-day weekend boosts worker prod...
As it turns out, not squeezing employees dry like a sponge is maybe a good thing.
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[03-Nov-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society

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[03-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(I'm negotiating for 4-day workweek atm)


[03-Nov-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[03-Nov-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rested people are more productive? truly the plot twist of the century


[03-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People that are happy and relaxed are more productive and commit less errors, amazing


[03-Nov-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knwo what also helps? consistant fucking schedules


[03-Nov-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
relaxation time


[03-Nov-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my walmart schedule ran like someone threw lawn darts at a time board


[03-Nov-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
times where you can just give anyone at your job the finger because you're not at work


[03-Nov-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) that's on purpose


[03-Nov-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
it's to prevent you from getting another job


[03-Nov-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont want to do the 2 jobs thing, and if your companhy is paying me low enough to the point where i need a second job, then whatls the fucking point of working for you in the first place?


[03-Nov-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Just being an asshole


[03-Nov-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
It's company policy after all


[03-Nov-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather start my own business in today;s economy


[03-Nov-19 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
If you do you'll have the bank breathing down your neck


[03-Nov-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
And if you thought your boss was bad, wait until they send lawyers after you


[03-Nov-19 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m aware of what capitalism is


[03-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>he didn't read his non-compete clause when signing the contract


[03-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you BREATHE at any point in the next 5 years after leaving your job, you're using company secrets and will be sued


[03-Nov-19 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking copy paste explanation https://i.redd.it/au4n35i75iw31.png

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[03-Nov-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I think you mean @Teaspoon? https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/640613669327077396


[03-Nov-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
No


[03-Nov-19 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean Its


[03-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My comment related to how "boomer" is used for both people from that generation, and also pretty much any neoliberal regardless of age


[03-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
kinda confused then, seems kinda out of the blue lol


[03-Nov-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
It is


[03-Nov-19 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Its posts "ok boomer" material out of the blue as well


[03-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes sense


[03-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers had their own "ok Boomer" but it was way too complicated to be catchy


[03-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they were smart it would have been "silence Silents"


[03-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What kind of meme is "Don't trust anyone over 30"


[03-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
what did the silent generation do that's nearly as shitty as the boomers?


[03-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing


[03-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
the only thing I can think of is that the silent generation was casually racist


[03-Nov-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They raised them great and gave them everything they never had because they wanted to give them better lives


[03-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers engaged in rebellion after this


[03-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
the silent generation would've been raised by people who lived through the worst of the great depression


[03-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because their parents didn't like rock and roll and liked Republicans


[03-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
so if anything, the silent generation would understand what the millennials and gen z are going through


[03-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[03-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Silents just didn't see a problem to begin with


[03-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were full of integrity but they were so used to the problems that existed that they couldn't really grapple with them


[03-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan was very appealing to them


[03-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He had a softer, gentler kind of ignoring genocides


[03-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He did a voiceover for a record that was just anti-universal-healthcare propaganda


[03-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people *bought it*


[03-Nov-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
How did we fall so far


[03-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
When boomers had to pikk up the torch, in the 60s to 80s


[03-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were swimming in wealth


[03-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
they still harbored most of the prejudices of the silents


[03-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wealthy, poorly-educated people in a racist society aren't going to grow up tolerant.


[03-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, in the time of Boomers, you worked one job that paid $5 an hour and covered an ability to buy a home at 18


[03-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
No need to go to college


[03-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
just high school, and they didn't even really teach you much algebra or history


[03-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get married, raise kids, tell them about how "those people" shouldn't come by "these parts" etc. (segregation)


[03-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X however had it ruffer, suddenly going to college actually mattered


[03-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
better education, but similarly high wealth, and still most of the same prejudices


[03-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials tho are a huge break


[03-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials got born into the absolute shit of the 80s and 90s, were told GO TO COLLEGE OR DIE, then when the 2000s rolled around, the housing market crashed


[03-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And still acquired less prejudices than Gen X...


[03-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Millennials kinda rebounded to having integrity. And they look to Silents like Biden talking about how there's utterly no need to fix shit, that Obamacare is the end of progress...


[03-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
But a few Boomers like Warren talk about how actually maybe shit's wrong


[03-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
While the majority of Boomers act like nothing's wrong at all, that Reagan was the best thing since sliced bread, etc.


[03-Nov-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Gen Z now is being raised **not knowing a world that isn't dying**


[03-Nov-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is it really any wonder there's generational friction?


[03-Nov-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything timed up so perfectly to make Boomers completely apathetic to the plight of the lower classes


[03-Nov-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and to make Millennials and Gen Z themselves *be* of lower class


[03-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note also, this applies racially, too


[03-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's not just that Boomers are much more racist


[03-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that for Boomers, the white ones can insulate themselves from the poor


[03-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(while for Millennials, even the white ones are mostly poor, and so mingle with other races more)


[03-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
White people by being wealthier reproduce less.


[03-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And immigration is mostly from non-white areas


[03-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials and Gen Z are much less white than Boomers


[03-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot harder to go "only white people matter" when you're half white, one quarter mexican, one quarter blakk


[03-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now, as the Boomers age, they die off...but the poorer, less white ones die first


[03-Nov-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
We end up left with the rich white evil bastards who rose to the top.


[03-Nov-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Boomers aren't particularly white either


[03-Nov-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I suppose it's fair to say they are whiter


[03-Nov-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they are *more* white, and *majority* white, that's the issue.


[03-Nov-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem here is the societal factors that cause certain behavior and select within a group, as well as that group's initial composition.


[03-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything lines up to make Millennials and Gen Z care about other people, especially the lower classes, and want to improve economic conditions for them


[03-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's the complete reverse for Boomers


[03-Nov-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Will generations following the zoomers be more compassionate


[03-Nov-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Or will it swing back


[03-Nov-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, the 5 gens talk like this:


[03-Nov-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silents: We're not racist, everything's fine.
Boomers: We're racist, but that's okay, fuck everyone else.
Gen X: Uh...sure whatever you say.
Millennials: We're not racist, and everything's not fine.
Gen Z: WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU **DO**?


[03-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Depends on wealth, education, and whiteness


[03-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason to expect that Gen Z-2: The Remake will be very white, for a start


[03-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll be majority-minority


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is further no reason to expect them to be wealthy


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
most white boomers are poor too though


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
even if we instituted UBI right now they'd never hold a candle to Boomers


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
they just weren't raised poor


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the poorer ones die first


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause of this amazing healthcare system they wanted.


[03-Nov-19 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention with capitalism devouring itself liek the hungy hungry human centipede, there's no tellign what the conditions will be for their successor generation


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let Reagan's smooth voice make you lose coverage for cancer treatment.


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shhh, die now.


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things are likely headed to a minor collapse


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen Z-2 will be in deep shit


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big question is education


[03-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
All signs point to extremely good education even when poor cause of the internet


[03-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
a poor person need no longer walk to a library


[03-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
or hav a buddy who's well-educated


[03-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
to get basic information.


[03-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind btw that *texting* itself greatly improves language skills


[03-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there's no reason to expect a swing bakk, at least for the next upcoming generation


[03-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The internet is a gamechanger.


[03-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally in human societies, people default to conservative nonsense, to authoritarian rule and terrible economic conditions, because they're uneducated and worried about food, due to terrible economic conditions


[03-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
This creates huge instability


[03-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you improve conditions slightly, you get overthrown by a disapproving populace


[03-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you go full democracy, it falls apart as soon as wealth gets accumulated


[03-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, anything not on the extremes tends to shoot towards one extreme or the other, and it's not stable which direction it wants


[03-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also note


[03-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being educated makes people care about how resources are distributed


[03-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
but being wealthy, which raises education level, past a point can cause the inverse


[03-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if you dump a bunch of money on starving people in a dictatorship, they may just become the next dictators.


[03-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The internet to a large extent *decouples* education from wealth.


[03-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means you can hav people calling for social change while still in poverty


[03-Nov-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, there's legions of Boomers right now online getting propaganda'd by Russia


[03-Nov-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they were less educated in their formative years, and never really taught critical thinking


[03-Nov-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The younger generations deal with media somewhat differently


[03-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what could happen is human society as a whole ends up finding a new stability point somewhere 2/3rds of the way to full Democracy


[03-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
With countries constantly swirling around it as soon as they leave the hole of full Dictatorship


[03-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say a repeat of Boomers is unlikely


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Attitudes like that will always be on the fringes as long as society keeps up good access to information.


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That won't mean they go away, either, tho


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will always be one the fringes.


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
to be fair, most people don't really get what critical thinking is, even when taught in class


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to push towards autocratic rule by their own.


[03-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
most people just think it's knowing fallacies and stuff


[03-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
but it's mostly about self-reflection and being able to view yourself as objectively as possible


[03-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, chances are


[03-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
when the history books are written about this time period


[03-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
they will not really be talking well about Brexit or Trumpers or AfD etc.


[03-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll be talking about facebook


[03-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Confused Gen Z-2ers will be demanding to know why the fukk people would want a president who's retarded.


[03-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not having known a time when being the wrong color got you told there were no vacancies at the motel.


[03-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
(said time is today)


[03-Nov-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
So about 20 years from now


[03-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
(it still happens)


[03-Nov-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure if it'll happen that rapidly


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
once Trump and Biden and Pence and McConnell are gone


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Boomer/Gen X replacements are nothing like them


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Democratic field is talking medicare for all except Biden


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh my god I'll be 40 when Z2ers are in high school


[03-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ben Shapiro is a thing, as are a hundred thousand alt-right shitheels on YT


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The shitheels will be around, but the fundamental trouble with their message is it's context-dependent


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
age is fucking weird


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They aren't just going to get Thanosed when Mitch goes into the ditch


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
um, what's the definition of "generation z-2"?


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't heard that term before today


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
born 2020-2040


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
generation after z


[03-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sargon of Akkad doesn't directly tell you that the blakks are bad or that we should prevent clinics from talking about abortion


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whatever meme name sociologists give them


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no official name for thme yet


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We'll have to wait until some big event I guess


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way he works his magic is to talk about how minorities JUST NEED TO PULL UP THEIR BOOTSTRAPS or such


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
and to talk about how taking down racist posters is a violation of rights


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Generation Weed", because weed was made fully legal to sell to anyone over 16


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the moment you remove the racist posters and minorities being hugely less wealthy, that rhetoric falls apart


[03-Nov-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
generation blaze


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of Sargon's videos won't make sense in 20 years.


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or "Generation Black", because emos everywhere


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't make sense _now_


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They make sense within the alt-right


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of sargon's videos stopped making sense when tumblr sjws became irrelevent


[03-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it requires certain conditions to make the message work.


[03-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The BIGGEST condition is segregation


[03-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
blakk people in the ghetto shooting each other over scraps because of no wealth


[03-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthusians then say they're poor because of bad attitudes


[03-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that if they want any help they need to first earn it


[03-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
But consider what happens when the segregation's lessened and there's huge amounts of wealthy people who are half blakk etc.


[03-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
sure you can still talk about geographically discriminating


[03-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's harder to tie *race* to it


[03-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the goal, to tie race to it.


[03-Nov-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you lose tying race to things, you lose the fear, if you lose the fear, you lose the conservatism.


[03-Nov-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply the fascists are going to be a bit hampered when they can't actually identify any groups to target that wouldn't get them hugely disrespected by almost everyone among the youth


[03-Nov-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people are mostly biracial and such then it narrows what you can really argue. You say "the jews are bad" and your blakk friend tells you he's half jewish etc.


[03-Nov-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Americans will always have Mexicans to hate


[03-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
there will always be a group to target.


[03-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
US has been living and breathing fearmongering since before WW2


[03-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a tradition so effective and time-honored, to change it would be to bring about the entire reboot of politics.


[03-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
and I don't see that happening outside of an extinction event


[03-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1191112470544429057

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Poison is bad.
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[03-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really like Yang


[03-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
is it? It offers you sweet release rather quickly.


[03-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
🤔


[03-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```The internet to a large extent decouples education from wealth.
This means you can hav people calling for social change while still in poverty```


[03-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1177707062270320641

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Andrew Yang🧢 (@AndrewYang)
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1177707062270320641
Huge, if true.
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[03-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
all of this stuff you described Nebbie, all of it is entirely about US only.


[03-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
and that would be something, if, like before, it was more or less on it's own big island doing it's own inexplicable things and occasionally gracing the world with democracy on the tips of bombs and tanks shells.


[03-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society is likely to homogenize


[03-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
wealth though is global. Capitalism is global. The fact that there's just more people 'calling for change' means... I dunno


[03-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
something.


[03-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
but it's not enough.


[03-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Travel is too fast


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
communication is nearly instant


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Culture's spread rate cares less about distance


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
travel is fast, circumventing the borders isn't though.


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
remember, the world is all about restricting migration of anyone anywhere


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reduced border controls create economic improvements


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
See: The EU


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Other countries would be retarded to ignore this


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
and yes, many will be, for a time


[03-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they can only go so long


[03-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is not some great mystical force that makes countries want to restrict migration


[03-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is primarily done as a means of gaining support from highly conservative people


[03-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they slip up, then the economic benefits of more migration eventually win out


[03-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism at war with its own pokketbooks is a losing proposition.


[03-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
see, the thing again about economic benefits... How does a lot of potentially skilled, potentially very desprate people, able and willing to work for wages native populations would find atrocious and unacceptable, simply to survive, help the country? It helps capitalism, for obvious reasons. But it doesn't help the workers, it doesn't help politicians, it doesn't help law enforcement, the list goes on.


[03-Nov-19 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
We had something US never did to the best of my knowledge. The situation where the entire economy system collapsed and the population itself was reduced to this 'suddenly harsh market eco, desperate for anything, competition redefining cutthroat' scenario. I can't say we or Russia actually bore it gracefully either, doubt other ex-Soviet republics did. The general solution was, trying to stabilise the system by salvaging anything deemed expendable from it. We gave up on the army, on many industrial fields, largely on science, and started walking round the world asking for handouts. Russia instead effectively cut off the non-resource bearing regions, solidifying it's future as oil/gas producer to the expense of everything else.


[03-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I picture the mass refugee influx as repeating this situation, only with added benefit of a spefific group being to blame for all of it (the immigrants), and not literally everyone, or maybe the untouchable 'rich', well-defended not by status, but by money and force.


[03-Nov-19 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
_eventually_ the crisis will peter out, one way or another. The strong, the smart, the ruthless will live, the rest will languish or die. The country can survive this. But does it actually help anything?


[03-Nov-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/468643-republicans-divided-over-whether-trump-whistleblower-should-testify

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Senate Republicans divided over whether whistleblower should testify
Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee are divided over whether they need to hear from the whistleblower at the center of the House impeachment inquiry.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/burrrichard_013119sr.jpg


[03-Nov-19 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
yang is posting vague no context tweets to force people to look up what he says, isn't he


[03-Nov-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's Math


[03-Nov-19 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Refugees commit less crime than natives


[03-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also fill jobs natives don't want to do


[03-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
and supplement the bad population pyramids of aging wealthy populations


[03-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, I love how divided republicans are being about actually letting people testify


[03-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(remember, wealth means less kids, meaning more old people needing services and less young people providing them)


[03-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Germany is being massively bolstered by the Syrians it took in right now


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's like those dogs that bark at each other when there's a fence between them, but then wander off as soon as the fence is gone


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now let's say we remove all these crises


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
all these disparities in how it is to liv somewhere


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
so no mass immigration, no refugees


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then, why would you still want openish borders?


[03-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, consider that economy is about getting the right resources to the right place


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
One form of this is trade, I sell you X goods, you sell me Y resources, both sides benefit to get what they want


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider people a resource


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone has good skills needed in X country, not where they liv


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
they're like "RAWR PUBLIC DEPOSITIONS", but as soon as public depositions are about to become a thing, they get all flustered about it


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
If borders are relatively open, then they can easily move to meet that need


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
if this is the same on all sides, then you get a lot of benefit of the workers and businesses


[03-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the economy overall


[03-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And because less people are finding themselves out of work for long periods, you hav less crime


[03-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The hilarious part is that all this is clearly just because they want to give the more obnoxious members of the House GOP a platform @Crow


[03-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Jordan and Gaetz probably will be fine without it


[03-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only conservative argument that makes any sense against this is to refute that immigrants do less crime, or refute that people are needed to begin with.


[03-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
But both those fly in the face of reason.


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
evidence


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
`Someone has good skills needed in X country, not where they liv`


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not how it works though.


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it is


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
at any given time


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
the resources are likely not all in the right place


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
usually when it turns out you have good skills where you don't live, you re-learn or die.


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't move, because you can't.


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you deny the ability of the resources to move, then you keep any in the wrong place in the wrong place


[03-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you allow them to move, over time they will, for selfish reasons


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you help them move, they will rapidly come to where they are needed


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
even if you can afford it (suppose you can move illegaly, as legal process takes ages), you're automatically at a vast disadvantage as a foreigner


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
also, re-learning isn't a really big thing with humans


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
we're altricial


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EU is great at this


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We take 25 years to develop and during that time our skills are almost entirely set in stone


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
a skilled engineer in mexico would make the equivalent of $30,000-40,000 holding a position they could easily make six figures having in the US


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
legal process could take less


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyone can move anywhere, and unless you're going to France, English is the company language


[03-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the EU, the legal process for moving for work is next to nothing


[03-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
France is different because the French are complete assholes and closet fascists


[03-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, your argument *relies upon* assumptions that it is hard to justify keeping it hard.


[03-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is that over time, selfish reasoning will lead to making it easier.


[03-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it relies on how things are. If it justifies keeping it as they are, well.


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is plainly obvious that how things are are not sufficiently against movement to keep themselves the same.


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
over time, well, people need to live now, to adapt to now.


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is, when you think about it, crazy


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
EU _looks_ to be falling apart.


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Commuting to work in another country is unthinkable in most of the world


[03-Nov-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't look at them as a functioning model.


[03-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
One nation leaving is not "falling apart"


[03-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
the EU is not falling apart wtf


[03-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
(especially when said nation is being prevented by politics from leaving easily)


[03-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
there's conservatives capitalizing on britain trying to leave in order to start their own EU leaving movements, but there's tons of pushback


[03-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
one core nation. Do you think Poland matters? Baltic states? Fucking I dunno, Slovenia or something, if that's even a thing anymore.


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is also slowly but surely expanding east


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't need all of its original cores to function correctly.


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
polish people benefit massively from the EU


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
does EU benefit from them is the question?


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
absolutely


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
I know they like it here. For more reasons than just economy.


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they deny it does though


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
yes, more people to work


[04-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is they were able to basically erase borders from the worker-business matching process internally


[04-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the argument is about economics


[04-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economic benefit is what a self-interested politician will tend towards


[04-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
it's mutually beneficial to have a lot of workers who still have family ties to poland who can go where there's jobs and get money to send back home


[04-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the short scale, you can make his own financial interests counter to what benefits the economy


[04-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but on the very long scale, do you really think politicians will oppose the ability to get workers where they are needed and grow the economy?


[04-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The economy matters greatly to world prestige.


[04-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, consider what happens *after* you've had workers from other countries for long periods of time both ways


[04-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think their grandkids will say about reestablishing the borders?


[04-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get people interconnected and they will never want to be torn apart.


[04-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the super long scale, the EU could become a country, with member states like US states


[04-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may not happen in the next 20 years


[04-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
there's a pretty short-term net loss for the EU when a poor state joins it, but it rapidly becomes a net gain after the initial cost of raising their standard of living because people are able to start moving across borders to where they can find jobs and start making money


[04-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I'd be hesitant to say it won't in the next 100


[04-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, there is a very obvious trend towards intermingling.


[04-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Languages are dying.


[04-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are working jobs in foreign countries like never before.


[04-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're looking at a world where a meme doesn't know borders.


[04-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure you say, "that's just a meme"


[04-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
okay, but all of human society is in the end based on concepts


[04-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
our culture is in the end a collection of memes


[04-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what will happen to your culture when it doesn't know what borders are, and doesn't *believe in them*?


[04-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Borders aren't actual lines in the sand, if you stop believing they're there, they stop existing.


[04-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, you need to delineate things for the law for all sorts of reason


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in other areas, the borders could just all vanish.


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Historically, culture was confined by borders


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I actually don't think 'meme's just a meme'.  They transcend borders and cultures easier than one would think.


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the language of the realm stopped at its borders


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Richard Dawkins wrote about memes before they were cool


[04-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
every country encouraged a certain language within them etc.


[04-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're in an era where local language dies out even as the gov't tries to preserve it.


[04-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The borders are leaking.


[04-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homogenization is inevitable, the counterforces to keep cultures separate are simply not very strong in comparison to instant communication and rapid travel.


[04-Nov-19 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics

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Memetics is the study of information and culture based on an analogy with Darwinian evolution. Proponents describe memetics as an approach to evolutionary models of cultural information transfer. Memetics describes how an idea can propagate successfully, but doesn't necessari...


[04-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, language is the number one way to restrict meme spread


[04-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't accept as an idea what you don't understand


[04-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Languages are dying.


[04-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider what it means


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that the UK is leaving the EU


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but English as its primary language **isn't**


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
English is de-facto primary language of the world, not just EU.


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But moreover


[04-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
first british colonialism


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
then the internet


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Geographically, English is well-positioned


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
scentific innovations. Goods. Content.


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
shit we're sold is made in China but it's made by English patents.


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And because of that


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
when some Egyptian makes a meme


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that they want spread


[04-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
they make it in English


[04-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it reaches people in Argentina


[04-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of ideas from Egypt easily reaching Argentina in any prior century would be laffable.


[04-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideas would be bounded by borders, borders which defined languages, languages which weren't mutually intelligible.


[04-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, there was French, you could do the meme in French, send it by boat, some academics would get it...but it wouldn't really reach the people.


[04-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I hear what you're saying.


[04-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
but this is global, and long-term. Not 20-years long-term. A century long-term at least. Which is still pretty damn rapid as far as historical context goes (Internet really is a game-changer, no doubt).


[04-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
but. When you're voting someone in office usually people don't think about long-term implications. Not on this scale.


[04-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need to


[04-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
20 years is upper limit for most people's plans, be it business or personal.


[04-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The short term plans and local things dance around, but they *trend* towards the long-term, global things.


[04-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would take a highly concerted effort to resist globalization.


[04-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
China is trying.


[04-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It remains to be seen whether they're strong enuff to resist it themselves.


[04-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China isn't trying, they just want to be in control


[04-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're trying to make a Chinese Co Prosperity Sphere


[04-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but in the end the two are the same.


[04-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can only stop it converting you by becoming the one in charge of spreading outward.


[04-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
China will probably fail for the simple reason that it's very difficult to really control all the other countries' ideas directly.


[04-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they might be able to establish an equilibrium that keeps their culture mostly pushing bakk against invasion.


[04-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho that'd fail horribly if Russia became too western.


[04-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia will only ever have dictators


[04-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China will get hegemony over SE Asia and the Pacific


[04-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Russia in 40 years will be some anarcho-capitalist nightmare


[04-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once Putin dies it's gonna all go to shit


[04-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>putin dying


[04-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice meme


[04-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The fucker will upload onto a server and control everything from there


[04-Nov-19 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/goldman-sachs-sees-4-billion-flow-to-singapore-on-hong-kong-protests-2019-10-1028573359

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[04-Nov-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
assuming his staff doesnt pull a back stab for power and upload him onto an isolated server connected to nothing and locked in a vault


[04-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
backstab for power is time-honored Russian tradition so


[04-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
might as well maintain that too.


[04-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
they're big on cultural values after all :D


[04-Nov-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with a back stab for power in this case would be too many people wantign the power, it would be an absolutely chaotic power vacuum


[04-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
for Soviet union it was typically a division on 2-3 teams, then the winning team divides itself, and so on, until only the highlander remains


[04-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
they got their power backstabs figured out.


[04-Nov-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin has established himself as a main support beam forcing himself to be the winner of every single election


[04-Nov-19 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt soviet russia and leader changing hasnt happened often enough for it to be a stable practice


[04-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it's run by much of the same principles.


[04-Nov-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if putin falls, there wont be factions, it will be everyone for themselves and then some


[04-Nov-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oligarchs will devour eachother alive


[04-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there actually any sort of 2nd in command?


[04-Nov-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the west ever hears is "Putin" and "completely insane russian asshole screaming at the cameras", no in between


[04-Nov-19 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/adxiq9xgwgw31.png

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[04-Nov-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_Russia

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Vice President of Russia
The Vice President of the Russian Federation (before 25 December 1991 – Vice President of the Russian SFSR) was the first in the presidential line of succession, becoming the new President of Russia upon the death, resignation, or removal of the president. Additionally, the...
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[04-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean _actual_ second in command, not just the title-carrier


[04-Nov-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was


[04-Nov-19 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov i think this guy

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Vladislav Surkov
Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov (Russian: Владислав Юрьевич Сурков; born 21 September 1964) is a Russian businessman and politician of Chechen descent. He was First Deputy Chief of the Russian Presidential Administration from 1999 to 2011, during which time h...
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[04-Nov-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it sounds like they still arent real fucking sure how to handle the event of a succession


[04-Nov-19 12:54 AM] ononim#8141
geee, I am sure it will be nice and won't be just a shitshow of various siloviks, oligarchs and stray burecrauts wrestling for control


[04-Nov-19 12:54 AM] ononim#8141
:hopeless:


[04-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And generals


[04-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget the generals


[04-Nov-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much what i said


[04-Nov-19 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minute putin dies, loyalty goes out the fucking window


[04-Nov-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/ct-nvs-naperville-buffalo-wild-wings-st-1103-20191102-3cl76kisdjcbvi3cotqgqahfj4-story.html

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[04-Nov-19 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie oh yeah, one other thing I think I forgot to mention.


[04-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
if you DO take into account the vast differences in wages in different places, open borders in short to mid-term lead to brain bleed from one side, and aforementioned job competion in the other. And, unlike refugees who might not have enough formal qualifications to do anything but sweep streets and pick berries, you get people with any amount of drive or intelligence to move out, and the remaining drink their woes away at home. I'm not talking about war-torn Middle East, which is shit either way, btw, more like our own context.


[04-Nov-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
for capitalists, it's 'get more for less', directly opposite to workers' rights. It's simply easier, all things considered, to tighten the rules for workers if they become more easily replacable. It creates additional issues for local governments on one side to facilitate extra job competition (even if it's dirt farming, it's dirt farming someone was doing before or it wasn't useful to begin with). And on the other side, to either somehow entice people to return (usually with lies and shit like 'national idea' like we get, it never works cause if they could they'd prevent it from happening) or make do with what remains.


[04-Nov-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
in a century it evens out. Yeah, fair enough.


[04-Nov-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
in a homogenous world, this is a non-issue.


[04-Nov-19 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
well, we're in a very, very much non-homogenous world.


[04-Nov-19 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
now the obvious counter-argument is, with cheaper labor and, as a result, less insentive to work for someone, more people would try to start their own business.


[04-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that's... I don't know if it's really a thing. Maybe it is. This is, yet another thing government should somehow facilitate, as more than anything else it's tied to banking system and it's rules (gotta get that loan from somewhere).


[04-Nov-19 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
bottom line. a LOT of pressure is on government, to actually make all this happen on any scale.


[04-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
against the wishes of the unconcerned masses, which typically make their most loyal electorate


[04-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ that buffalo wild wings thing is a massive lawsuit holy shit


[04-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two things to get here are that 1) Rich people can exploit wherever they are, and aren't what actually drives the economy on the ground level (as long as SOMEONE is investing) and 2) Businnesses will just replace native workers with foreigners anyways if you tighten borders, but they'll giv them less rights which makes them better replacements to fukk over wokers


[04-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
how fucking retarded can you be


[04-Nov-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the rich will be able to move as they please regardless.


[04-Nov-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can literally bribe officials if it comes down to it.


[04-Nov-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But virtually every country exempts them from normal immigration


[04-Nov-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they invest X amount of money, bam instant visa


[04-Nov-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tighter borders only hurt the poor


[04-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and at the expense of the overall economy)


[04-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
so your point is, the immigration laws literally don't matter in terms of the scale of migration? Only in rights of those who do so.


[04-Nov-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[04-Nov-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to stop people getting where they need to go will hardly ever mostly work


[04-Nov-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
all it does is hurt people


[04-Nov-19 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough. If that's true, the main argument of my line goes poof.


[04-Nov-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the twisted logic behind Trump's immigration policies, btw


[04-Nov-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
illegal immigrants are better than legal ones for certain business


[04-Nov-19 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
of which Republicans own a lot


[04-Nov-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it also givs them an enemy that they can pikk on


[04-Nov-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad for the economy overall because you waste money and make businesses as a whole less able to find good workers (and also hurt the ability of Americans to get hired abroad due to reciprocity reasons), but if you don't *care* about the economy and just want your own party of elites who are funded by businesses that prefer unskilled easily-replaced workers to profit, then it's a good idea


[04-Nov-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think Americans would want to go where the migrants come from :D


[04-Nov-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
so that's unlikely.


[04-Nov-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but do realize


[04-Nov-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you say no Polish immigrants to the US


[04-Nov-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
France say no US immigrants


[04-Nov-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I doubt they would, but that's France. Neither they nor Brittain truly got over their fall as colonial powers...


[04-Nov-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I see your point.


[04-Nov-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are doing so


[04-Nov-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU is **fukking pissed** about the US not granting easy visas to Polish people


[04-Nov-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember, the current visa setups are designed around the cold war


[04-Nov-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the US can't really update them, ever


[04-Nov-19 02:08 AM] Opponent#3498
mm, yeh, I didn't think of when it originates from. It makes more sense now.


[04-Nov-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The endgame is likely to be the EU demanding visa-free travel for EU citizens.


[04-Nov-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US


[04-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/10/portland-anti-fascist-activist-killed-after-crash-shooting-it-looked-like-road-rage.html

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[04-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, diplomatically


[04-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
telling two african kids they can't come to your chess tournament


[04-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they're african


[04-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
is not a good idea.


[04-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You piss off their country, you piss off the chess tournament so it might change countries, and you piss off the international community as a whole.


[04-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
AMERICA FIRST


[04-Nov-19 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. That'd be a huge impetus to get EU citizenship xD


[04-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
on a more serious note though... I don't think EU as a whole is influential enough. They're backed by US military. They expand east, because US wants them to expand east.


[04-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
there's France, sure, but, well, that's France, they're special.


[04-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I see your point, I agree with it in theory. I don't see it happening though.


[04-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
`telling two african kids they can't come to your chess tournament`


[04-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
it's more than a poor idea, it's just stupid, financially if nothing else. It costs you ~nothing to let them come, and coming back from that would indeed cost a lot.


[04-Nov-19 02:20 AM] ononim#8141
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[04-Nov-19 02:20 AM] ononim#8141
But hey!


[04-Nov-19 02:21 AM] ononim#8141
They're vegan!


[04-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeesh. That's dirty.


[04-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RobertLeather/status/1191046724195954688

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@Barahmeh @Lukewearechange It's a rubber bullet. She's been arrested, discharged from the Border unit and her and members of her unit will face conviction shortly. So:
1. Not dead
2. They didn't get away with it,
3. It's not acceptable or tolerated

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[04-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[04-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
still dirty.


[04-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure a rubber bullet at that range is almost as dangerous as a real bullet though


[04-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
a bullet kills with concussive force as well as the wound itself so, yeah.


[04-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGQIHPNq5cE

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[04-Nov-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
taking political philosophy next sem


[04-Nov-19 03:51 AM] ononim#8141
>Black Pigeon Speaks


[04-Nov-19 03:51 AM] ononim#8141
bruh momento


[04-Nov-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know this channel


[04-Nov-19 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
inform me onon senpai


[04-Nov-19 03:53 AM] ononim#8141
his such a stupid reactionary, like legit stupid, and awful I would probably preffer carlgon ramblings


[04-Nov-19 03:53 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUFX7YhjQ4

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[04-Nov-19 03:53 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFZOXiM9SM

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[04-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Am I going to have to delete this server


[04-Nov-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Send me all your leftists when you do


[04-Nov-19 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
leftist-in-training


[04-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Mikey#7286
wat


[04-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well perhaps this channel at least teaspoon. for better or for worse its a bit of a echo chamber here.


[04-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not really an echo chamber


[04-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suck my dick and cry all the way home you fucksmear


[04-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
?


[04-Nov-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
it's more of a "nebbie chamber"

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[04-Nov-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
and less of an "echo chamber"


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] ononim#8141
bruh, bps has such nuclear takes, inclduing how women having right to choose thier partner literally destroys civilization


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
alright that's fair byte


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] ononim#8141
it's more of a "nebbie chamber" [2]


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
but I mean your arguments are also unreasonable


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] ononim#8141
like at least Shapiro uses his brain


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
so I can see why you'd think it sucks when everyone gangs up on you to let you know that your arguments suck


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Mikey#7286
HAH


[04-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i haven't made an argument though


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Mikey#7286
shapiro doesn't use his brain


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
what about the argument that Nixon didn't deserve to be imprisoned


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
and that national unity is more important than prosecuting a criminal


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
that ring a bell


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
oh that. i thought you meant just now


[04-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
my opinion is that people who commit war crimes should go to jail


[04-Nov-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't think that would meet so much resistance


[04-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but he wasn't on trial for war crimes nor was he pardoned for such


[04-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, and we actually weren't talking about what he was going to be impeached for


[04-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
we were talking about him sabotaging a peace treaty


[04-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
to game the election in the US


[04-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
oh god not again


[04-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
this is where "ok boomer" comes in handy


[04-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and I was talking about what he was being impeached for and my agreement on the reasoning for his later pardoning by ford


[04-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[04-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but why are you bringing this back up?


[04-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "ok zoomer"


[04-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry but I'm on break from being Neb right now you'll hav to just create a realpolitik robot that plays When We Were Marching Through Georgia on repeat while pointing out that humans are basically all the same to create your Nebbie Echo Chamber.


[04-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
psker is probably 18 or 19


[04-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Mikey#7286
or xoomer


[04-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make sure every part of it is from a different country and they can't agree on tariffs.


[04-Nov-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Gitlab won't hire citizens of Russia or China as a data security matter
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/issues/5555

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[04-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does gitlab build rockets on the side or something


[04-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[04-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and the comments of the issue are discussing that this is probably illegal


[04-Nov-19 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/titlevii.cfm


[04-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
woah wait, is this an official post


[04-Nov-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[04-Nov-19 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
weeeeeew


[04-Nov-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
optics are really bad


[04-Nov-19 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't like to partake in news spectacle but: https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/

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‘Seven whistleblowers’ | Spectator USA
A source tells Cockburn that House Democrats trying to impeach Donald Trump have no less than seven intelligence whistleblowers
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[04-Nov-19 04:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
> According to Cockburn’s source about the seven whistleblowers, there’s more. It is that Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. A second source tells Cockburn that this is true and adds a crucial twist to the story. This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded. Cockburn hears that investigators for the House Intelligence Committee know this whole tale and the identities of some of the people telling it. Whether any of is true is another matter but Adam Schiff certainly seems to be smiling a lot these days.


[04-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
>Cockburn


[04-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
🍆🔥


[04-Nov-19 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Should get a doctor to check that


[04-Nov-19 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
:glimmer:


[04-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We still execute high treasoners via firing squad, right?


[04-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a state that allows it is chosen, yes.


[04-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some states still allow firing squad as an option, tho I think they normally require the condemned to request it.


[04-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the federal gov't wouldn't be able to force it.


[04-Nov-19 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
I request death by nuclear weapons test


[04-Nov-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Nov-19 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, that's how you get freak accident super powered 5th dimensional beings :reppy:


[04-Nov-19 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
For my execution request I demand that if the nuclear blast does not kill but leaves me as an immortal ghoul, that I am vindicated of all my previous crimes and I go as a free man


[04-Nov-19 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno dude, I think I'd take instant annihilation


[04-Nov-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
> **It is that Kushner (allegedly) gave the green light to MBS to arrest the dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was later murdered and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.**


[04-Nov-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
> This source claims that Turkish intelligence obtained an intercept of the call between Kushner and MBS. **And President Erdogan used it to get Trump to roll over and pull American troops out of northern Syria before the Turks invaded.**


[04-Nov-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
idk but sounds like treason to me


[04-Nov-19 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thus my query


[04-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I want these people fed into a battery powered woodchipper


[04-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-traitor-gif-7742711

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[04-Nov-19 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/codyisagoodboy/status/1191202240603643904?s=21

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@realDonaldTrump Let us pray for Trump. 

Psalms 109:8
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[04-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21iblcLFN8

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What Are we Supposed to do With Concentration Camps?
Are the concentration/extermination camps of the Nazis sacred monuments to the victims that must be preserved? Follow me on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.co...
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[04-Nov-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/your-trumpkins-wont-say-it-but-youre-in-deep-shit-donald-trump

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Your Trumpkins Won’t Say It But You’re in Deep Shit, Donald
You’ll never admit it, and no one in your orbit will tell you, but you’re in the s**t, and it’s getting deeper and more pungent by the hour.
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[04-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
```Am I going to have to delete this server```


[04-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
where did that come from anyway?


[04-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's what i want to know tbh


[04-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
seems very salty about me for some reason too. =/


[04-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Opponent#3498
what you linked was so awful it could be mistaken for satire :P But I don't know much about you, and for me that alone would certainly not be enough.


[04-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well thanks for giving me the benefit of doubt.


[04-Nov-19 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
all my interactions with derpibooru is uploading stuff to the site and sharing things i find interesting to spark discussion here.


[04-Nov-19 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
even then I'm not sure what would've sparked tea's ire.


[04-Nov-19 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
idk he just does that sometimes


[04-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That one was more a joke based on the titles of the preceding videos/articles


[04-Nov-19 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/24628f49af1e45219ee4b06c0a9a1229

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Investigation: Lead in some Canadian water worse than Flint
MONTREAL (AP) — Hundreds of thousands of Canadians have been unwittingly exposed to high levels of lead in their drinking water, with contamination in several cities consistently higher than they...
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[04-Nov-19 11:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/19a3091850b546e9af821a5a4d9c1701

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Whistleblower willing to answer GOP questions, lawyer says
WASHINGTON (AP) — The whistleblower who raised alarms about President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine and touched off the Democratic-led impeachment inquiry is willing to answer written...
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[04-Nov-19 12:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP's already said "no", they want to expose the whistleblower


[04-Nov-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[04-Nov-19 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even though the whistleblower's been completely irrelevant the moment Trump released the (edited) transcript, the GOP still wants them exposed in order to attack their character and discredit the impeachment inquiry because whoever was once in the same picture as Obama or the like


[04-Nov-19 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1191155312084082688
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1191155326743195648

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If Shifty Adam Schiff, who is a corrupt politician who fraudulently made up what I said on the “call,” is allowed to release transcripts of the Never Trumpers & others that are & were interviewed, he will change the words that were said to suit the Dems purposes. Repub...
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....should give their own transcripts of the interviews to contrast with Schiff’s manipulated propaganda. House Republicans must have nothing to do with Shifty’s rendition of those interviews. He is a proven liar, leaker & freak who is really the one who should be impe...
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[04-Nov-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he just say republicans should forge evdence?


[04-Nov-19 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
what do you mean forge evidence? What GOP is saying is unvarnished, unimpeachable truth.


[04-Nov-19 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
unless it's bluster, I suppose.


[04-Nov-19 02:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also you can't actually impeach a congressman. He's projecting again, *hard*


[04-Nov-19 02:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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When someone tells me I should watch the new Fast and Furious movie
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[04-Nov-19 02:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/atheist_cvnt/status/1191157832546041856

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Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.

Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.

Explicit warnin...
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[04-Nov-19 02:15 PM] ononim#8141
||
"This is never over! I win! They fucking lose!"

"That's how the world fucking works!"

"I rule the fucking world!"

"Little fucking kikes! [...] My ancestors fucking enslaved those little pieces of fucking shit!"

"Those pieces of shit get ruled by people like me! They look up and see a face like mine looking down at them!"
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[04-Nov-19 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Someone has a little bit of ego problem xD


[04-Nov-19 03:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[04-Nov-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-impeachment-media-coverage-getting-fucking-killed

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'We're Getting F*cking Killed': Trump's Daily Gripes About Media C...
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[04-Nov-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Jamal Kashoggi didn't kill himself


[04-Nov-19 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
> From the same studio that brought you _Manifest Destiny: All of This is Mine_ and _If You're Not White You're Property_, comes a whole new epic saga: _Fuck Literally Everyone Who Isn't Rich_


[04-Nov-19 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thebulwark.com/trumps-alamo-eventually-he-will-throw-everyone-under-the-bus/

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Eventually Trump Will Throw Everyone Under the Bus - The Bulwark
Sooner or later—probably after the House Intelligence Committee starts public hearings—Donald Trump is going to run out of defenses. Trump and his defenders will no longer be able to deny that the Trump administration conditioned military aid and a White House meeting on ...
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[04-Nov-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-adam-schiff-ukraine-house-intelligence-twitter-a9183766.html

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Trump 'invents insane conspiracy theory' in wild impeachment outburst
‘Democracy erodes when previously unthinkable conduct becomes so routine,’ academic says
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[04-Nov-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
PLS NO BULLI


[04-Nov-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/further/2019/11/02/everybody-hates-you


[04-Nov-19 05:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1191067539977228289?s=19

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[04-Nov-19 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
No


[04-Nov-19 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Delet this


[04-Nov-19 05:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/FlagsMashupBot/status/1191163167172374528

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Special edition 

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[04-Nov-19 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Nov-19 05:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
The bot should add Equestria to its flags


[04-Nov-19 05:54 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@AaronMk, no u


[04-Nov-19 05:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
It used one of the ones I made as a ponification for a little bit, which was wild when I learned it used it as the base as it applied Scotland colors to it


[04-Nov-19 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Volker and Sondland depositions tomorrow


[04-Nov-19 07:07 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk that was epic


[04-Nov-19 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/04/yvette-lundy-french-resistance-heroine-dies-aged-103

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Yvette Lundy, French resistance heroine, dies aged 103
Schoolteacher helped Jewish people hide and survived Nazi concentration camps
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[04-Nov-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/468798-trump-no-reason-to-call-witnesses-in-impeachment-probe

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Trump: 'No reason to call witnesses' in impeachment probe
President Trump said early Monday that there is “no reason” to call witnesses in the impeachment inquiry.
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[04-Nov-19 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll take "things people who aren't trying to obstruct justice don't say" for $500


[04-Nov-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/BobLonsberry/status/1191252815106256896

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"Boomer" is the n-word of ageism. Being hip and flip does not make bigotry ok, nor is a derisive epithet acceptable because it is new.
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[04-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus fucking Christ


[04-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
OK Boomer


[04-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Dictionarycom/status/1191391006777847809

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Boomer is an informal noun referring to a person born during a baby boom, especially one born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1965.

The n-word is one of the most offensive words in the English language. https://t.co/30OAf7N83e
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[04-Nov-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/nsc-lawyer-who-placed-trump-zelensky-call-in-codeword-protected-server-refuses-to-testify/

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NSC Lawyer Who Proposed Putting Trump-Zelensky Call in Codeword-Pr...
The National Security Council (NSC) attorney who suggested restricting access to President Donald Trump’s controversial phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenksy by placing it on a highly classified codename-only server is defying an impeachment inquiry subpoen...
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[04-Nov-19 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Disbar this fucker


[04-Nov-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5dbf334ce4b0d8b441d0c933

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Trump Refuses To Guarantee No Shutdown Over Impeachment: 'We'll See'
“Depends on what the negotiation [is],” the president said. “I wouldn’t commit to anything.”
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[04-Nov-19 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/04/media/anonymous-book-justice-department-letter/index.html

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Justice Dept. is trying to 'intimidate' author of anonymous anti-T...
The Justice Department is going on the offensive against the anonymous author of "A Warning," telling them in a letter obtained by CNN Business that he or she may be violating "one or more nondisclosure agreements" by writing the anti-Trump book.
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[04-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/style/what-is-cancel-culture.html :glowing_eyes:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/style/what-is-cancel-culture.html
Those People We Tried to Cancel? They’re All Hanging Out Together
Depriving people of a platform works — in unexpected ways.
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[04-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, a lot of the media personalities who were 'canceled' over anything short of rape are building their own social network of friendship.


[04-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
SJUWs beware.


[04-Nov-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting


[04-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776092575/congress-releases-first-transcripts-from-closed-door-trump-impeachment-depositio

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https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776092575/congress-releases-first-transcripts-from-closed-door-trump-impeachment-depositio
Former Ukraine Ambassador Says She Was Told To 'Watch Her Back'
Marie Yovanovitch said she found out from Ukrainian officials that Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his now-arrested associates were targeting her and wanted a different person on the job.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/11/04/ap_19284539698290_wide-17a7e2e2f895b67c18adbb12795dada300f8c014.jpg?s=1400


[04-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/thin-blue-line-flag-debate-gov-hogan-maryland.html

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/thin-blue-line-flag-debate-gov-hogan-maryland.html
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan Says He Is “Disgusted” by Decision N...
The flag was given to the department by a local child.
https://compote.slate.com/images/d4e05ecd-f255-448d-898b-ed3fec9754bc.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=3500x2333&offset=0x0


[04-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
>  A flag gifted to a police department in Montgomery County, Maryland, has set off a dispute over symbols and race that that has caused several state officials, including the governor, to express outrage and “disgust.”


[04-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
>  On Friday, Montgomery County Executive Marc Elrich said that the homemade flag at the center of the debate would not be displayed in a public space after all because of its “divisive” nature.


[04-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
um, isn't it considered distasteful to modify the flag of a nation?


[04-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure I've heard conservatives argue that the flag should never be modified before, but now they're arguing for a modification


[04-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives being hypocrites? What a shokking revelation.


[04-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MightyWhitey

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Mighty Whitey - TV Tropes
The Mighty Whitey trope as used in popular culture. A common trope in 18th and 19th century adventure fiction, when Europeans were visiting and documenting …
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/phantom_02_350_2379.jpg


[04-Nov-19 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Today in pointlessly gendered:


[04-Nov-19 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
I walked past a construction site and saw two sets of portable toilets; one labeled men, the other women


[04-Nov-19 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Two questions: who fucking cares, and why would you even do that?


[04-Nov-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
To own the libs.


[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
But like


[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
It _costs more_ to do that


[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
cooties

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[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
obv


[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
For something I've never even seen gendered before


[04-Nov-19 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
that is to say, every single other portable toilet I've seen has not had a designated gender


[04-Nov-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, owning the libs is expensive.


[04-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dabe6ccc29a44028b52dc77fd51e9efd

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Appeals court agrees Trump tax returns can be turned over
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump's tax returns can be turned over to New York prosecutors by his personal accountant, a federal appeals court ruled Monday, leaving the last word to the...
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[04-Nov-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Will go to scotus


[04-Nov-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Gorsuch and Kavanaugh will probably say trump doesn't have to turn it over


[04-Nov-19 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
No clue about the rest of the court


[04-Nov-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
So


[04-Nov-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/your-trumpkins-wont-say-it-but-youre-in-deep-shit-donald-trump

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/your-trumpkins-wont-say-it-but-youre-in-deep-shit-donald-trump
Your Trumpkins Won’t Say It But You’re in Deep Shit, Donald
You’ll never admit it, and no one in your orbit will tell you, but you’re in the s**t, and it’s getting deeper and more pungent by the hour.
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_337,w_600,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_600/f_jpg/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1572643470/191101-Wilson-impeachment-Winning-President-tease_ctrj8w


[04-Nov-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I realized that the author of this is Rick Wilson


[04-Nov-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
The guy who said Trump supporters are "single childless men who masturbate to anime" and "have Hitler iconography in their Twitter feeds" on live TV


[04-Nov-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Which is among the funniest fucking things that has ever happened on national television


[04-Nov-19 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/_tj-Hp7AYlk

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Ashley Lynch
https://youtu.be/_tj-Hp7AYlk
Rick Wilson MSNBC Trump's Fans Are Childless Single Men Who Mastur...
Rick Wilson blasted Trump's Alt Right followers on MSNBC.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_tj-Hp7AYlk/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/HGe25z9

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The Real Jeff Epstein Meme (sources in description)
https://i.imgur.com/VIDtcaJh.jpg


[04-Nov-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
`Boomer is an informal noun referring to a person born during a baby boom, especially one born in the U.S. between 1946 and 1965.

The n-word is one of the most offensive words in the English language. `


[04-Nov-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Context matters. By this logic, ni🅱 🅱 a is an informal noun referring to a person born with specific racial traits. It's the context that made it nasty. Exactly the same as here.


[04-Nov-19 10:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50294569

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No Russia interference report until after election
There are claims No 10 is delaying publishing the report on alleged meddling in the Brexit referendum.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/14B1A/production/_109526748_putin.jpg

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[04-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRIACgesh34

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Tim Pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRIACgesh34
California Is Becoming Unlivable, Trump Slams Democrat's Failures,...
California Is Becoming Unlivable, Trump Slams Democrat's Failures, Republicans Try To Recall Newsom California has a democratic super majority but still face...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wRIACgesh34/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Wow I wonder what could have caused that


[04-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
It's almost like the climate


[04-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
uh


[04-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
changed


[04-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Pool is a fucking retard


[04-Nov-19 11:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
uh why not watch the video first


[04-Nov-19 11:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if you haven't yet


[04-Nov-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
His past videos are of him showing a video of his screen while he reads news articles and shouting into a microphone


[04-Nov-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
It's unbelievably grating and a lot of things he says are not even speculation, they're verifiably wrong


[04-Nov-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no desire to repeat that experience as I found it unpleasant


[04-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0J7et_2Rs

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Kevin Logan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0J7et_2Rs
Prager, FU - Bullshit of biblical proportions (featuring The Serfs)
A bible bullshit bonanza! Go check out the awesome work of The Serfs: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEWrkBTDSYqJzQmp8gxQiMw https://twitter.com/theserfstv...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yv0J7et_2Rs/hqdefault.jpg


[04-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
hillarious stuff.


[04-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
in general PragerU responses are funny, but this is amazing.


[04-Nov-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
PragerU makes it so easy


[04-Nov-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I see their stuff in my recommended all the time


[04-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I've watched several of them and it's things like Ben Shapiro saying the media is a liberal conspiracy


[04-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Or Prager himself comparing liberals to Nazis


[04-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I've been on a certain ponyfic author's channel, who's really big on neolib, free unrestricted market and such, and they periodically promoted this stuff.


[04-Nov-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, like I said before, this channel unites the left and the right in giving the finger to neolibs


[04-Nov-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-ukraine-clown-posse-sounds-like-shit

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-ukraine-clown-posse-sounds-like-shit
Trump’s Ukraine Clown Posse Sounds Like Shit
The morons in the House ‘led’ by Kevin McCarthy are storming the SCIF, but Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans have had about enough of this noise.
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_600/f_jpg/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1571932289/191024-wilson-trump-clown-possee-tease_vukz9s


[04-Nov-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Disclaimer: also Rick Wilson


[05-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/468938-rnc-funded-effort-to-jam-house-democrats-office-phone-lines-amid-impeachment

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/468938-rnc-funded-effort-to-jam-house-democrats-office-phone-lines-amid-impeachment
RNC funded effort to jam House Democrats' office phone lines amid ...
The Republican National Committee (RNC) funded an effort to tie up House Democrats’ office phone lines as the impeachment fight with the Trump administration intensifies, The New York Times
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schiffadam_and_pelosinancy_10022019_1.jpg


[05-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Astroturfing campaign, wow


[05-Nov-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's next, DDoS?


[05-Nov-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the actual fuck


[05-Nov-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is exactly like what Nixon had done


[05-Nov-19 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why aren't as many people batting an eye yet


[05-Nov-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the media keeps doing the "both sides" thing


[05-Nov-19 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of tearing apart the GOP


[05-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
feeding the drama pays


[05-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
ending it prematurely pays less.


[05-Nov-19 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/brimstone_s/status/1114579661210693638

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Brimstone's Shed (@brimstone_s)
https://twitter.com/brimstone_s/status/1114579661210693638
This sums up all that is wrong with NI https://t.co/fPkuBsdvhu
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Twitter


[05-Nov-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
DUP?


[05-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
[Un]Democratic Unionist Party


[05-Nov-19 02:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
DUP are the ones collationed with the conservative party to form the UK government. Conservative and democratic unionist party.


[05-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unionist meaning "let's let the English rule over us"


[05-Nov-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468949-rand-paul-demands-media-outlets-print-whistleblowers-name

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468949-rand-paul-demands-media-outlets-print-whistleblowers-name
Rand Paul demands media print whistleblower's name
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Monday demanded the media reveal the identity of the anonymous whistleblower who raised concerns about President Trump’s contacts with Ukraine during a Trump campaign rally in his home state.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/paulrand_101619gn_lead.jpg


[05-Nov-19 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Break the law, media!"


[05-Nov-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism tactics 101


[05-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>all the comments about his neighbor


[05-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lel


[05-Nov-19 02:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Also today the Unionist paramilitaries (UDA) are threatening other Unionist party members into not running for fear that the DUP will not have a majority if the Unionist vote is split. The other Unionist parties have agreed to stand down and let the DUP run as the only Unionist party in areas.


[05-Nov-19 02:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1190999109718724610?s=20

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Sam McBride (@SJAMcBride)
https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1190999109718724610?s=20
UUP to stand aside in favour of DUP in North Belfast: It has taken just over a week for incoming UUP leader Steve Aiken to U-turn on his pledge to stand in all 18 NI constituencies (https://t.co/XJN7iq3pld). A big relief for Nigel Dodds, although it will still be a tight r...
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[05-Nov-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-prosecutor-excl-idUSKBN1XE20C

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-prosecutor-excl-idUSKBN1XE20C
Exclusive: Ukraine to fire prosecutor who discussed Bidens with Gi...
Ukraine plans to fire the prosecutor who led investigations into the firm where ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191104&t=2&i=1448421825&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA31P5


[05-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ooh


[05-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not as dramatic as I hoped, but still a talking point I guess


[05-Nov-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just me or does he look like Brendan Fraser's JUST face


[05-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't know that expression I'm afraid


[05-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does transmit a sense of disdain, though


[05-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/966/457/29e.jpg

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/966/457/29e.jpg


[05-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, that looks disappointed and distressed


[05-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Smoke weed everyday


[05-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
```Some prosecutors have told Reuters that many of those sacked had refused to sit the exam in protest at what they see as a purge designed to cement new President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s political control of the service. ```


[05-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
yup, that's exactly what it is.


[05-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
many people claim no president ever in (rather short, admittedly) history of Ukraine had as much power and initial support as Zelensky has (or, perhaps, had, in terms of support, it's hard to gauge)


[05-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
```Zelenskiy has said the overhaul is essential because the office is widely distrusted by Ukrainians and had been seen as a political tool for the well-connected to punish their enemies. ```


[05-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
true, it is, and true, the reputation is well-deserved.


[05-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
what better way to affirm the reputation than this.


[05-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
but I don't think this has anything to do with US. Purely our 'business as usual'.


[05-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
> a political tool for the well connected to punish their enemies


[05-Nov-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
this makes trump bullying zelensky into trying to get a prosecution feel even more ironic


[05-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
always a bigger fish.


[05-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have people forgotten the part where Trump wanted Zelensky to sit down for a CNN interview and say that he's investigating Biden


[05-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because that was part of it


[05-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
No, that's precisely what I was citing


[05-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
also, trying to do the phonetic thing: Зеленский how bad did I f it up


[05-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
actually spot-on.


[05-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
that's exactly how it's spelled in Russian.


[05-Nov-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
awesome


[05-Nov-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not what it is on wiki so I was a little concerned


[05-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I am trying to learn the russian and greek phonemes


[05-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
in wiki it's in Ukrainian


[05-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
but really the difference is rather minor


[05-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
and typically people use russian pronounciation when converting cyrillic to latin


[05-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if I have the ability to pick up a new language


[05-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I do it all the time with computer languages but never have with natural languages


[05-Nov-19 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent btw, this was a good watch https://youtu.be/QL_YEe7jLVc

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Shaun
https://youtu.be/QL_YEe7jLVc
Abusing Statistics ft. Black Pigeon Speaks
Testing the limits of Raw Data Analysis Contact: https://twitter.com/shaun_jen https://curiouscat.me/Shaun_Jen https://www.patreon.com/shaun_jen Sources: htt...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QL_YEe7jLVc/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Nov-19 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
It's about immigration


[05-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
30 minutes of tearing into conservative videos? Eugh.


[05-Nov-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Indeed


[05-Nov-19 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
But this one goes into depths about studies which showed immigrants had no net negative impact or improved the economy


[05-Nov-19 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
And how they got twisted into IMMIGRANTS BAD NATIONALISM GOOD


[05-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
>believing the right actually cares about facts to begin with


[05-Nov-19 05:27 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/11/4/paulo_paulino_guajajara_amazon_indigenous_killings#transcript

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https://www.democracynow.org/2019/11/4/paulo_paulino_guajajara_amazon_indigenous_killings
Emboldened by Bolsonaro, Illegal Loggers in Amazon Kill Indigenous...
An indigenous forest protector named Paulo Paulino Guajajara was shot dead in the Amazon by illegal loggers on Saturday. It is the latest incident in a wave of violence targeting indigenous land protectors since the election of Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro la...
https://www.democracynow.org/images/story/40/49940/full_hd/SEG1-AmazonLeaderKilled-3.jpg


[05-Nov-19 05:27 AM] ononim#8141
```An indigenous forest protector named Paulo Paulino Guajajara was shot dead in the Amazon by illegal loggers on Saturday. It is the latest incident in a wave of violence targeting indigenous land protectors since the election of Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro last year. Guajajara was killed when he and another forest protector were ambushed by a group of illegal loggers inside the Araribóia reservation in the northeastern state of Maranhão. We speak with João Coimbra Sousa, a field coordinator and legal adviser for Amazon Watch, in São Luís in the northeastern state of Maranhão. And in San Francisco, we speak with Christian Poirier, program director at Amazon Watch.```


[05-Nov-19 05:29 AM] Mikey#7286
What the fuck


[05-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Raze the Amazon to the ground so you can get $2 combo meals

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[05-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But mock 16 year old girls concerned about climate change and discount ever eating bugs


[05-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Mikey you didn't know?


[05-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the whole point of what's going on there


[05-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Amazon is full of wood and minable metals


[05-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And natives


[05-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the natives survive to report illegal logging, that's bad for the loggers


[05-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's in the loggers' best interests to commit genocide, routinely


[05-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bolsonaro meanwhile wants the economic boost of the resources


[05-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as he says he's protecting the area, he makes sure to sweep under the rug all of what's happening


[05-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
makes sure no funding gets to atually enforcing the rules etc.


[05-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Mikey#7286
That makes me extremely angry


[05-Nov-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, this is the standard conservative way of running things. Big talk about how the law is there to protect, as you signal to those who would hurt others that you won't enforce it, all in the name of economy by the easiest (and not necessarily ethical) resource extraction method.


[05-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Add a layer of racism and classism into the mix and boom, huge voter base will support you.


[05-Nov-19 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I recently saw an analysis saying that the primary divide in the US isn't urban/rural


[05-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's major metro/minor metro


[05-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The difference between Chicago and Toledo, not Chicago and rural West Virginia


[05-Nov-19 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, if you only have domestic  or at most a few international flights at your local airport Democrats probably aren't doing enough there.


[05-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you've got no real airport or an international hub it's not worth campaigning.


[05-Nov-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why winning the suburbs was the real story of the 2018 midterms


[05-Nov-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Democrats win the suburbs, they win America.


[05-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
On another note, something fun to think about from the comments on the Joker trailer: 'Batman was the hero the city needed
Because Joker was the villain the city deserved.'


[05-Nov-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you seen Joker?


[05-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not yet no


[05-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You really should get on that.


[05-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
To sum it up


[05-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
SJUWs think Joker is alt right because they don't understand what leftism is actually saying.


[05-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I read a review that said something along the lines of "the only shootings we should anticipate from this movie are those of billionaires"


[05-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Entirely accurate.


[05-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the movie, you know Bruce Wayne's parents are going to die


[05-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you look forward to it greatly.


[05-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again I haven't seen it but canonically how long has Batman actually been Batman?


[05-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like when he got the suit and the cave and everything


[05-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the universe, how long has it been and nothing really has improved


[05-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who knows, but I think for ages to make sense, Batman must become Batman at a pretty young age


[05-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
at least to make sense with Joker's ages


[05-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Arthur Fleck is 30-something while Bruce is around 8 or 9)


[05-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, the director has hinted that maybe the actual Joker Batman faces is a copycat of Arthur


[05-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would make the ages work, and would really fit the idea behind it.


[05-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh of the fake Jokers being more comedic/less serious?


[05-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes sense


[05-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[05-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that it's not really about Arthur specifically.


[05-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is a representative.


[05-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is a mentally ill man who livs with his mom and can't find success because society has rigged the game.


[05-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As rich people talk on TV about how they'll fix all the problems with society by getting rid of scum like him.


[05-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core point is that society is a joke, a very funny joke.


[05-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arthur wants to be a comedian, and he seems like he's laffing all the time, but he's not really in a position to find jokes funny with how shitty his life is.


[05-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's something like 20 minutes of laffter in the movie.


[05-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only once is it genuine.


[05-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
Political Commentary the Movie, then? Shame. I was actually curious.


[05-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[05-Nov-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are political messages in Joker, yes, by characters in the movie.


[05-Nov-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the movie doesn't just go and say that anyone's politics are right or wrong.


[05-Nov-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The movie is about making you care about a horribly evil character and realize that maybe Gotham and those who led it messed up.


[05-Nov-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't say what to do to solve the problems, it only says that they exist, and that they are dangerous, and you should care about them.


[05-Nov-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, actually caring about people is a leftist thing to do on the whole of it, sure, but that's getting well away from direct political commentary.


[05-Nov-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most direct political message in the movie is that Joker says it isn't political.


[05-Nov-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the entire point.


[05-Nov-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That stepping on people until they break making them lash out at the shitty society that made them...isn't just some partisan punditry, it's basic common sense.


[05-Nov-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which in a way is itself considered political as a statement because it contravenes the right saying that society had nothing to do with things.


[05-Nov-19 06:53 AM] Opponent#3498
too deep for me, I feel.


[05-Nov-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is rather deep, yes. That's why SJUWs don't get it.


[05-Nov-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They go surface level, and on the surface, Joker looks like he's an incel.


[05-Nov-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so they go WHOA THEY GONNA SHOOT UP THE PLACE COPYIN' HIM


[05-Nov-19 06:57 AM] Opponent#3498
If the majority of people don't 'get' the broadcast message, it doesn't really matter too much what the deep message is.


[05-Nov-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people got it.


[05-Nov-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just, the types of people who are move critics and write articles about movies reaaaally didn't get it.


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their worldview isn't really compatible with having sympathy for Arthur


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
so, you're just blindly accept that silent majority 'got it', and the voices are irrelevant.


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or understanding why it all goes wrong.


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Critics and journalists just had a veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery different reaction to the movie than like, everyone else.


[05-Nov-19 06:58 AM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[05-Nov-19 06:59 AM] Opponent#3498
if you say so.


[05-Nov-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't really that uncommon anymore btw


[05-Nov-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The uber example is STD vs Orville


[05-Nov-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
STD has like a 90% from critics, 20% from audience


[05-Nov-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orville is flipped


[05-Nov-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And STD being like that shows it's not about the writing quality alone (general audiences are expected to care less about shitty writing just by the nature of being less educated and intelligent overall and not thinknig as hard because they aren't paid to)


[05-Nov-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Critics seem to place a lot of emphasis on something having a "positive message"


[05-Nov-19 07:01 AM] Opponent#3498
what is STD's full name? For google purposes.


[05-Nov-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek Discovery


[05-Nov-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
STD was all "woke" with a blakk female lead


[05-Nov-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
who promptly screws up everything and disregards her own advice and commits treason


[05-Nov-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
then gets rewarded for it


[05-Nov-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
as the series discards all the actual ideals of Star Trek


[05-Nov-19 07:03 AM] Opponent#3498
so old-time fans ree'd. Understandable.


[05-Nov-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orville meanwhile was a bunch of idiots bumbling around...actually seeming to care about the ideals of Star Trek


[05-Nov-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just the "old-time" fans tho


[05-Nov-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
STD has serious flaws in its writing


[05-Nov-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, until it starts getting into the mirror universe stuff, a lot of character stuff makes no sense


[05-Nov-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this goes double for the pilot


[05-Nov-19 07:04 AM] Opponent#3498
Star Trek has baggage of, what


[05-Nov-19 07:04 AM] Opponent#3498
40 years?


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main character was vulcan-educated


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
the 'next' installment will fail by default.


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in the pilot episode


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
she gets mad and sets a phaser to kill


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
to get revenge for her dead captain...


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 minutes after thoroughly begging the captain to go on the risky infiltration mission


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know anything about Star Trek.


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHILE YELLING ABOUT NOT KILLING THE GUY


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't judge. I simply don't care.


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to, that's my point


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I should note tho


[05-Nov-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vulcans = logic before emotion


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in she had special training to blokk out emotions


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and be logical


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this super girl


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only human raised in a vulcan academy etc. to be super duper logical and unemotional


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
not only commits treason


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then within 5 minutes she manages to plead to do this risky shit


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and her emotions fukk it all up


[05-Nov-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the problem?


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, I'm sorry but which part of 'I don't care' I mispronounced?


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, I see the problem.


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the point is


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
critics thought this was *great*


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem is the media in the last 10 years+


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
general audiences...not so much


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the show is basically stokk action movie stuff


[05-Nov-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it missed the mark on that


[05-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't unique, isn't new, and a rival series with copycat premise riding it's success of this one's failure is... a curious story for business analysts to study.


[05-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a huge critic disconnect and it appears to be largely political in nature.


[05-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hear "asian female captain" and "blakk female lead" and go bananas


[05-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Opponent#3498
they probably didn't watch it past the trailer or something.


[05-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possible.


[05-Nov-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Michael Burnham, said blakk female lead, is a posterchild of shitty "woke" protagonists.


[05-Nov-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's actually okay in later episodes


[05-Nov-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
just...not the pilot


[05-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, wtf


[05-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Like "The Dark Knight", this film demonizes the mentally ill. It also distorts NY realities in the early 80s.'


[05-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
did...


[05-Nov-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
did this critic not actually watch the movie?


[05-Nov-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like holy shit


[05-Nov-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joker doesn't take place in NY, it takes place in Gotham, a fictionalized pseudo-NY


[05-Nov-19 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking RT page found me the hottest take I've seen yet. A critic who pans a comic book supervillain origin story for being ahistorical.


[05-Nov-19 07:20 AM] Opponent#3498
weeeell, it's more than origin story though, isn't it. It's societal (maybe not political, fine) commentary.


[05-Nov-19 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Magneto's origin story better not set the missile crisis in Jamaica etc.!


[05-Nov-19 07:21 AM] Opponent#3498
this is dishonest. People don't claim it's 'wrong historically'. It's designed to trasmit a convincing simulacrum of a period, and in that regard, according to the guy in question, it falls short of the mark.


[05-Nov-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that makes no sense


[05-Nov-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are only 3 events that happen to Gotham that are actually known to be symptoms or causes of the societal breakdown


[05-Nov-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
a trash pileup, an ensuing large buildup of "super rats" (I don't think it's specified what makes them super), and a reduction in social services funding.


[05-Nov-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything else, it givs you the *sense* that there's some kind of huge problem causing wealth inequality, but it doesn't get into details


[05-Nov-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the entire thing is from Arthur's POV, the movie doesn't like, cut to somewhere else to show some other BS going on.


[05-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what was the movie *supposed* to do in the critic's mind?


[05-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody thinks New York actually had a buildup of SUPER RATS


[05-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Problems with inability to get rid of trash meanwhile were briefly a thing with the trash barge, even if that was exaggerated


[05-Nov-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there sure was massive wealth inequality in 80s NY


[05-Nov-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes no damn sense.


[05-Nov-19 07:30 AM] Opponent#3498
dunno. Despair, rampart unemployment, rapid decrease of living standards, general grimderpness. What specific picture did they match that against, no guarantee even they truly know.


[05-Nov-19 07:31 AM] Opponent#3498
still, right or wrong, this opinion is reasonably valid.


[05-Nov-19 07:31 AM] ononim#8141
I can't believe nebbie finally found his soulmate


[05-Nov-19 07:31 AM] ononim#8141
how many hours you two have been going at each other


[05-Nov-19 07:32 AM] Opponent#3498
not too long, ~40 minutes on and off


[05-Nov-19 08:41 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1OVcBAxq_8

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[05-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
welp. Some things transcend borders and cultures. Like oil pipelines and protests about them.


[05-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats what u get when your government forbid any kind of mass meeting


[05-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean there's more than that. The whole point of holding onto Caucasus for Russian Empire/Union/Federation was always oil (well, not always, but since oil superseded coal anyway)


[05-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
to expect them not to disregard everything and everyone in pursuing that would be way too optimistic.


[05-Nov-19 09:45 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJDc85h3ME

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJDc85h3ME
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[05-Nov-19 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, I'm not really a fan of this video 7 minutes in, it has the same general problems of political YouTube videos.


[05-Nov-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially, so far it's very authoritative and it's latching onto something that I feel is probably the weakest thing to "refute"


[05-Nov-19 09:55 AM] ononim#8141
THe original vid is pretty weak in general


[05-Nov-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Knowing Better using an overly limited lens of solely technological progression)


[05-Nov-19 09:56 AM] ononim#8141
that's the first thing


[05-Nov-19 09:56 AM] ononim#8141
he doesn't talks about it for all pf video


[05-Nov-19 09:56 AM] ononim#8141
not even half of it


[05-Nov-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, I just feel like that section should've been trimmed to be a sort of asterisk on what Knowing Better was saying


[05-Nov-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of treated like a core part of the argument


[05-Nov-19 09:57 AM] ononim#8141
I dunno Empandada clearly wants to make it known how generally weak and unfounded this view of history is


[05-Nov-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the trouble is that I don't think it's really core to Knowing Better's argument


[05-Nov-19 09:58 AM] ononim#8141
yeah, watch it


[05-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a red flag to just go BROWN MAN NOT REACHED FEUDAL for sure, but get to the meat already etc.


[05-Nov-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over 11 minutes in


[05-Nov-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's still going on about how Knowing Better seems to lakk historical knowledge about the natives, I really don't like this approach


[05-Nov-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, this is about Colombus and what he did or did not do


[05-Nov-19 10:01 AM] ononim#8141
out of one hour twenty minutes video


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
man


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
View of natives


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
is pretty important to the topic


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
don't you think


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but I'm like a 7th of the way in and it's not touching the actual arguments


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is my issue with YT vids


[05-Nov-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're way, way, way the fukk too long to get to the point


[05-Nov-19 10:03 AM] ononim#8141
"wow the person establishes context about the topic they're going to talk about smh"


[05-Nov-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're invariably set up to just poison the well of who they're trying to argue against


[05-Nov-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying KB is right, saying Colombus didn't do anything wrong is fukking ridiculous


[05-Nov-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
My problem is that this is 82 fukking minutes that should be 10


[05-Nov-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to lay a huge foundation, do it in text form where it's easy to search.


[05-Nov-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and much better structured)


[05-Nov-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note on what I mean about "this approach" and this particular instance where it seems like "poisoning the well", I mean the order is wrong


[05-Nov-19 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to talk about how someone's wrong and they're just being racist, you should start with them being wrong, then move into how it seems to be because of racism


[05-Nov-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the reverse order, where you say they're just justifying racism, then bury them actually being wrong, is clearly intended to make people go "racism = bad " right away so that they're more likely to believe the person is wrong.


[05-Nov-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, a conservative is more likely to pikk up on you saying "racism = bad" upfront and just reject your argument down the line


[05-Nov-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this approach just leads to your own side agreeing and the other side rejecting, based on their own preexisting ideas, instead of the actual argument.


[05-Nov-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is clearly intended to game YouTube's algorithm rather than to actually get people to recognize KB is wrong.


[05-Nov-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, please talk about someone's argument being wrong *before* you talk about their apparent corrupt motives. Show that the well is lies before you poison it.


[05-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, about domesticated animals


[05-Nov-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
KB says that the natives Colombus met basically had none...and that's right, and then BE goes on about how that's totes wrong there were dogs, llamas, and alpacas


[05-Nov-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except...none of those were available to any of the peoples Colombus met


[05-Nov-19 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He only traveled along the caribbean isles and the eastern edge of South America


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
He was talking about the more broad context of colonisation of AMericas at this point


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
Are you still watching?


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But...what relevance does any of it hav?


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
Because he started to go about columbus in caribean at 16 mark or so


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
From both sides it seems absolutely stupid


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
Because when we talk about columbus we talk about colonialism


[05-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
What domesticated animals the natives had access to has nothing to do with whether Colombus committed atrocities.


[05-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if it DOES, then *by and large* they didn't hav near the access to good domesticated animals Europeans did


[05-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So BE going on saying KB is wrong on this doesn't make sense


[05-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just...urgh, I forget the words to describe it but like


[05-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay imagine that like, 1 officer in a war on a particular side had access to a machine gun


[05-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 guys had access to bazookas


[05-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The enemy army has bazookas in every single division


[05-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and 10,000 tanks


[05-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Guy 1 argues that there was a disparity here, that the side with 1 machine gun had next to nothing


[05-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then guy 2 argues WELL AKSHUALLY FIVE BAZOOKAS AND A MACHINE GUN WERE AVAILABLE TO SOME GUYS SO THIS IS WRONG


[05-Nov-19 10:29 AM] ononim#8141
It was argued in the context of how not having enough domesticated animals leads to not being able to form complex societies and big cities, which is factually untrue


[05-Nov-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Nov-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's absolutely true tho


[05-Nov-19 10:29 AM] ononim#8141
did you watch at least this part of video neb


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] ononim#8141
it isn't


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
North America had shitall for animals to carry goods from one place to another


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] ononim#8141
Mexican cities


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] ononim#8141
Inca cities


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] ononim#8141
pueblos cities


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] ononim#8141
missipi cities


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they were few and far between aside of Incas and Mexico


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This whole thing is stupidly constructed


[05-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
North of the fukking Rio Grande, the natives were not clustered much into cities


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
transportation was simply not good enuff to do so on a societal scale


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] ononim#8141
I guess Aztecs and Myanas and Olmecs weren'\t societies


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even down in Mexico, where there were some cities, it still just couldn't reach what Europe did at the time


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] ononim#8141
as weren't Incas


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point tho


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] ononim#8141
>couldn't reach what Europe did at the time


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only the Incas really could directly compare


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] ononim#8141
mon cher


[05-Nov-19 10:31 AM] ononim#8141
Tenochiticlan was bigger than London


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
hol up


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
let me see if the  name is right


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
you kow


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's ignoring that England had a lot of other cities at the time


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
the Aztec city on the lake


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Technotliclan I think


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] ononim#8141
and it was also not hte only mesoamerican city at the time


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's NOT THE POINT


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
ffs


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe had a much higher density of people overall


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it had much better transportation


[05-Nov-19 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
both on sea and on land


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, over in the Americas, people were CAPABLE of making cities


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and having gov'ts


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and all that


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] ononim#8141
See?


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] ononim#8141
So you agree


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there was a massive disparity from having different animals available


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] ononim#8141
I don't think you understand what empanada argued here


[05-Nov-19 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That massive disparity is what KB was seemingly getting at


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not saying that the people in the Americas COULDNT EVER BUILD ONE CITY IN THEIR DAMN LIVES etc.


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] ononim#8141
he was implying what gettin acces to animals IS requiered


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it *is*


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] ononim#8141
which is false


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] ononim#8141
>people in americas managed to do it without


[05-Nov-19 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without horses there is a lot less capability to make tons of huge cities


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] ononim#8141
>but it still requered!


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's falsely equating tho


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] ononim#8141
my amigo


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] ononim#8141
required =/= easily done with


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] ononim#8141
it means you can't do the thing without it


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a bullshit semantic thing, you're changing where the word is applying


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
required


[05-Nov-19 10:35 AM] ononim#8141
not it isn't


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
for


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
EASY


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
without horses


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] ononim#8141
now you put the word there


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't do it EASY


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
THAT is the point


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] ononim#8141
when in the original context


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] ononim#8141
we didn't talk about whenever it would be easier or not


[05-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that access to things like horses determines how large you can make your society, how many cities you can hav, how FEASIBLE it all is


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you pull away that access to domesticated animals, it CHANGES the feasibility of things


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] ononim#8141
Mesoamerica was pretty dense in urban centers


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that in turn changes how many cities you can hav


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
how connected they can be


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
how far apart they can be


[05-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If horses were introduced early in the Americas, cities would be all over the damn place there


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd cover both seaboards


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] ononim#8141
show me where did EMpanada said "animals don't have any empact at all"


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they weren't, and as a result cities were only really viable in a few spots


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's what the argument is about


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] ononim#8141
it is not


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] ononim#8141
watch the video properly


[05-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I refuse.


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the fundamental thing with these YT vids


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get on some stupid tangent 5 minutes in that ignores the substance of the argument


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] ononim#8141
Well, suit yourself


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and supposedly 30 minutes later they actually say what really is the deal instead


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk that


[05-Nov-19 10:39 AM] ononim#8141
I am sorry for you of you have to ever read anything academic what has to put forward context first


[05-Nov-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not here to listen to bullshit 5 minutes in that gets replaced with actual substance of meaning 30 minutes in AND NEITHER HAV ANYTHING TODO WITH THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT I AM HERE FOR


[05-Nov-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a fukking video about whether Colombus did horrible shit that we should hate him or not over


[05-Nov-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
What KB doesn't know about the times animals were useful in mesoamerica should be a footnote at the end.


[05-Nov-19 11:53 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/11/03/ermatov/

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[05-Nov-19 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china/china-presses-trump-for-more-tariff-roll-backs-in-phase-one-trade-deal-idUSKBN1XE27F

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[05-Nov-19 11:55 AM] ononim#8141
```Ibrahimjon Ermatov, accused of planning a terrorist attack in the St. Petersburg subway, declared his innocence and called the case a frame-up in a letter that has been made available to The Insider.```


[05-Nov-19 11:55 AM] ononim#8141
```Ibrahimjon Ermatov’s letter. Courtesy of The Insider. “Hello, Yevgenia! Thanks, guys, that you have not forgotten me. I am very touched. Unfortunately, our case is a frame-up. The FSB let the terrorist slip, and a terrible tragedy happened. To vindicate themselves somehow, they ‘exposed a gang of terrorists,’ that is, us. We are ordinary people, just like you. And we did not come here to the big common motherland of the USSR for the fun of it. There is no work at home, no way to feed our families. We are hardworking, we don’t drink or smoke, we don’t break the laws, we only work and work. I’m now twenty-six. I could be sentenced to ten years, at least, for something I didn’t do. That is, I will spend half my life in prison. Unfortunately, there is the opinion in Russia that we immigrants from Central Asias are like the characters Ravshan and Jamshut in [the Russian TV comedy show] Our Russia. This is wrong, and ordinary Russians understand this. We simply have no rights here and can be easily manipulated. The FSB has taken advantage of this. [They think] Who would believe them (that is, us)? I would again like to thank you and all the people who care about our situation. I would have perished with you. May Allah be with you.”```


[05-Nov-19 12:21 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, likely true.


[05-Nov-19 12:24 PM] Opponent#3498
some random guys who aren't connected to local established communities, would make perfect targets.


[05-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Opponent#3498
bonus points for supporting the persistent Russian propaganda, that muslim immigrants (typically from Caucasus) are all criminals and savages, and are to be feared and avoided, lest they stab you to death for looking at them wrong.


[05-Nov-19 12:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/gnat/status/1191600041040863232

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"OK Boomer" only works on Boomers from Google. If your Boomer is from Apple, you have to say "Hey, Boomer." If it's from Amazon, you can simply preface your instruction with "Boomer", e.g. "Boomer, stop."
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[05-Nov-19 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
How it feels arguing with conservatives


[05-Nov-19 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/641184267958747171/q5tmfm14rpw31.jpg

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[05-Nov-19 01:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, student debt


[05-Nov-19 01:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Went to go vote and the person there told me the machines weren't working


[05-Nov-19 01:22 PM] byte[]#2610
First of all, I suspect Russian shenanigans


[05-Nov-19 01:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Second, why can't I just punch out a paper ballot instead?


[05-Nov-19 01:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Aren't you supposed to be prepared for the machines not working?


[05-Nov-19 01:27 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, to be fair, I saw that the video was over an hour long and instantly closed it because it shouldn't take over an hour to get a point across in a well-constructed argument


[05-Nov-19 01:28 PM] ononim#8141
he metiously debunks LB argumentation so, that is phisically can't be shorter than origianl at the very least


[05-Nov-19 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
and having access to pack animals does make it much easier to build lots of big cities in a civilization


[05-Nov-19 01:29 PM] ononim#8141
but I understand not wanting to watch an over a hour long video


[05-Nov-19 01:36 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim to balance things out, I'll go watch it in full once I have the time :P It AND the original :P


[05-Nov-19 01:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Lies get halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on


[05-Nov-19 01:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Anyway I have some downtime now because the voting machines didn't work


[05-Nov-19 01:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, state elections


[05-Nov-19 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
State & local yeah


[05-Nov-19 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
But like


[05-Nov-19 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
You need to vote in _every_ election


[05-Nov-19 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
The Rs always do


[05-Nov-19 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
So you need to as well


[05-Nov-19 01:49 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not enough to depend on other voters to carry the Dems


[05-Nov-19 01:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Because they don't


[05-Nov-19 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Voted, was #5 to vote


[05-Nov-19 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-knew-opinion-1469466

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Mike Pence knew | Opinion
How could President Donald Trump's second banana possibly be in the dark about Ukraine?
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[05-Nov-19 02:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/1191366023041171460?s=20

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*applause* https://t.co/3BBJPUhlrW
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[05-Nov-19 02:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fair summary of the goings on for this week, https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/04/trump-impeachment-inquiry-john-bolton-rick-perry-summoned-testify/4122007002/

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John Bolton, Rick Perry called to testify. What we're expecting fr...
A number of high-profile officials were called to testify this week in the Trump impeachment inquiry, now in its seventh week. But will they show up?
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[05-Nov-19 02:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bolton probably


[05-Nov-19 02:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Others no


[05-Nov-19 03:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Lawyer-Trumps-phone-records-back-details-of-former-Apprentice-contestants-claim-564498091.html

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Lawyer: Trump’s phone records back details of former ‘Apprenti...
President Donald Trump’s cell phone records show a call to a former “Apprentice” contestant on a day when she says he subjected her to unwanted kissing and groping, according to a court filing.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/551*315/1024_Trump_Zervos_AP+3.jpg


[05-Nov-19 03:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/bDsbWoWPn9U

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The Victorien Government has made an ad for the Melbourne Cup and it’s surprisingly honest and informative! 🐴 -*- Say Nup to the FuCup: https://horseracingki...
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[05-Nov-19 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Wendys_Garden/status/1189220725753823232

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@StewartSmithTwt @KrangTNelson It's a metaphor for his actual minion base where he says he's gonna give em something good and great but he puts it where they can't reach it then someone else who's good at taking stuff takes their stuff and America.
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[05-Nov-19 04:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aab3IS1D64w

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[05-Nov-19 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Fucking hell discord


[05-Nov-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Video is Tim Pool


[05-Nov-19 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Title is "Donald Trump Calls For WAR On Mexican Cartels, Requests Permission From Mexican Government"


[05-Nov-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah cause that worked so well when we tried it


[05-Nov-19 04:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cbc news comments are full of boomers


[05-Nov-19 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/latino/469001-mexican-president-rebuffs-trumps-offer-to-wage-war-on-cartels

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Mexican president rebuffs Trump's offer to 'wage war' on cartels
Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador batted down a Tuesday offer from President Trump to use U.S. military forces against Mexican drug cartels to "wipe them off the face of the earth."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/obrador_getty.jpg


[05-Nov-19 04:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And echo chamer followers


[05-Nov-19 04:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh god echo chambers are cancer


[05-Nov-19 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/05/once-again-trump-administration-religious-freedom-trumps-lgbt-rights/


[05-Nov-19 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
More like, "religious freedom" to illegally discriminate


[05-Nov-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/jXW7IeH

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Her reaction is priceless!
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[05-Nov-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[05-Nov-19 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[05-Nov-19 05:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is a few years old, and yeah


[05-Nov-19 05:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/05/uk/russia-report-uk-election-gbr-intl/index.html

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Boris Johnson 'suppressing' Russia report until after UK election,...
Prime Minister Boris Johnson is under fire over accusations from lawmakers that the UK government is intentionally delaying the release of a report into Russia's influence in British politics until after the upcoming election.
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[05-Nov-19 05:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Why would a government everyone suspects of getting a gain from russian interference stop a report about russian interference? You are all conspiracy theorists.


[05-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/WU8CqvF

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Hong Kong police covered an arrestee's face to stop him from shouting his name for protection
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[05-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
> Hong Kong police covered an arrestee's face to stop him from shouting his name for protection


[05-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[05-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
> This make the lawyer become harder to find the arrestee. After arresting the people, Hong Kong police will take the arrestee to several police stations so that the lawyers cant reach out. Once the lawyer find the correct places, they will let the lawyer stay outside for 3 hours before the lawyers meet the arrestee.


[05-Nov-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/469041-house-democrats-request-mulvaney-to-testify-in-impeachment-inquiry

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House Democrats ask Mulvaney to testify in impeachment inquiry
House Democrats leading the impeachment investigation into President Trump are requesting acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to testify Friday.
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[05-Nov-19 07:11 PM] byte[]#2610
And he'll refuse


[05-Nov-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[05-Nov-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now the argument is "Their lawyers need to be there"


[05-Nov-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're fighting so, so much on the logistics that it's making them look kinda bad


[05-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Q: Did you ever discuss Rudy Giuliani with Secretary Pompeo?
    Sondland: Only in general terms.
    Q: And what did you discuss?
    Sondland: That he’s involved in affairs. And Pompeo rolled his eyes and said: Yes, it’s something we have to deal with.


[05-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol no one likes Rudy


[05-Nov-19 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[05-Nov-19 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Q: Sir, one last question, which is: Do you believe that, with regard to Burisma, that the effort by Giuliani to investigate Burisma, now that we know that it was actually intended to go after Mr. Biden’s son Hunter, was ever a proper inquiry?  Sondland: I mean, I think I testified to that at the beginning, that it would not be proper.  Q: And illegal, correct?  Sondland: Again, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know the law exactly. It doesn’t sound good.


[05-Nov-19 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
🤔


[05-Nov-19 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/hyjjus/status/1189638118292541444

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They said it wouldn’t happen, but feral hogs defy all absolutes. https://t.co/JjlkO0oCmE
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[05-Nov-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://reason.com/2019/11/01/louisville-swat-team-needlessly-terrorizes-family-thanks-to-a-false-tip-a-cursory-investigation-and-a-detectives-nose/

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Louisville SWAT Team Looking for Pot Needlessly Terrorizes Family,...
A Louisville, Kentucky, SWAT team looking for marijuana broke into a home and terrorized the family living there, based on
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Louisville-pot-raid-10-26-18-1200x630.jpg


[05-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that many police dept.s currently *don't allow* a pot smell as probable cause because hemp is legal now and smells the same


[05-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, in Louisville, fukking SWAT teams


[05-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
On another note, it's been a fairly decent amount of time now with the impeachment inquiry, and for one of the first times ever, Trump's disapproval is on an incline without affecting his approval. That's a sign I'd say of independents taking a side.


[05-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Jesus that's overkill


[05-Nov-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Vote Bernie, legalize recreational weed


[05-Nov-19 08:07 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I thought you needed a court order to able to break into a house without flagrant offense? or the sole statement that a random cop felt there was smell sufficed here?


[05-Nov-19 08:08 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Because I mean that can be open to debate on misconduct can't it?


[05-Nov-19 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Smell of pot = evidence of it being an international drug distribution center


[05-Nov-19 08:09 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
When you've been watching far too much Fox News and police shows lol


[05-Nov-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well you SHOULD need a warrant to send armed thugs into a guy's house, but this is *modern* America


[05-Nov-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
where the police hav cooked up so many protections of shitty behavior the 4th amendment somehow only applies to breathalyzers


[05-Nov-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy's breath smells a bit like alcohol, want to test him? Need a warrant, says SCOTUS


[05-Nov-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy's house smells a bit like pot, want to shoot anything that moves inside? No warrant necessary.


[05-Nov-19 08:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-pilot-suspended-cockpit-photo-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

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Pilot grounded for inviting woman into cockpit mid-flight
A Chinese pilot has been grounded after a photo of a woman sitting in an airplane cockpit emerged on social media, sparking outrage over a breach of safety rules.
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[05-Nov-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that time a Russian invited his kids to sit in the pilot's seat and the plane crashed as a result?


[05-Nov-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm amazed at the lengths some people go to lose their cushy jobs


[05-Nov-19 08:14 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
That's harsh, hope it gets regularized soon enough... also yeah I personally as a passenger of an airfly would appreciate if random folk weren't allowed into the pilot cabin mid flight


[05-Nov-19 08:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're not even allowed into the Cabin anymore, especially post 9-11.


[05-Nov-19 08:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
So this is just security procedure these days, and the pilot broke procedure.


[05-Nov-19 08:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
like if the plane's landed and all good I don't see much of an issue but mid flight is a no no


[05-Nov-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also flying isn't a cushy job, you basically don't get to choose where you liv anymore and you get easily overworked despite the regulations


[05-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the progression is very slow


[05-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The plane flies itself


[05-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a big problem as far as the job goes, actually


[05-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It even takes off and lands itself these days


[05-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
A job where you sit in one place monitoring things constantly and hav to deal with shitty equipment failures isn't great


[05-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's most IT jobs


[05-Nov-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine the worst of IT jobs except you're in a new hotel room every 2 days


[05-Nov-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also only like, China, actually pays them very much anymore


[05-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/469064-sondland-trumps-appointee-changes-testimony-and-says-there-was-clear-quid-pro

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Sondland, Trump's appointee, changes testimony to say there was cl...
A top diplomat appointed by President Trump revised his testimony to lawmakers in the House's impeachment inquiry, saying in the latest version that the president’s dealings with Ukraine amounted to a clear quid pro quo.
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[05-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting what a threat of being charged with perjury will do.


[05-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS must be so happy about that mormon massacre today


[05-Nov-19 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise they'd look ridiculous boosting some other fluff piece to bury this


[05-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Inconsistent with what Volker said though


[05-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait no


[05-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Said Ukraine didn't know until the end of August aid was being withheld


[05-Nov-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But Sondland says he was talking with them about it in September


[05-Nov-19 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So it is consistent I believe


[05-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess it depends on who you believe


[05-Nov-19 08:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/italy-cammarata-free-houses/index.html

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Pretty Italian town gives homes away for free
The Sicilian community of Cammarata is offering homes for absolutely nothing in an effort to revive its dwindling community.
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[05-Nov-19 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
how shitty the place must be for them to be so desperate


[05-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's mostly just that the location is inconceivably remote


[05-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
and this isn't really a new story either


[05-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Italy's done that somewhat often


[05-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They have all these little towns in the mountains that have no industry


[05-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they pretty much buy people to live there and stop the emigration to the cities


[05-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I often see these articles any ways


[05-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I don't know how effective this is in "reviving" old forgotten country side towns


[05-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
but Italy, Switzerland and a few other places are trying it... feels like only wealthy people really have a chance any ways and if you got $ you probably don't want to isolate yourself like that

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[05-Nov-19 09:18 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[05-Nov-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers trying to appropriate "Ok Boomer" is poetic


[05-Nov-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like they don't get it's proving millennials right


[05-Nov-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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Whoa. Anchor @arobach says @abcnews killed smoking gun Jeffrey Epstein story three years ago because the network was afraid to expose Clinton, Prince Andrew, Dershowitz, etc. ABC wanted an interview with William & Kate more.

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[05-Nov-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wew


[05-Nov-19 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems Sondland knew there was a qpq thing by September 1st, and then told Taylor over a week later there was nothing


[05-Nov-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[06-Nov-19 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/JbEAuhW

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Interesting and concerning
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[06-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469134-graham-i-dont-know-if-quid-pro-quo-is-impeachable-offense

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Graham: 'I don't know' if quid pro quo is impeachable offense
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said it was unclear to him whether it would be an impeachable offense if President Trump demanded a quid pro quo of Ukraine's president.
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[06-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469135-graham-says-he-wont-read-the-trump-impeachment-transcripts

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Graham says he won't read the Trump impeachment transcripts
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Tuesday that he wouldn’t read newly disclosed transcripts pertaining to a pair of witnesses in the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump, arguing that the process unfolding is "B.S."
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[06-Nov-19 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
die you fucker


[06-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How in the fuck can these people be impartial jurors


[06-Nov-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"That's his opinion," Graham added to CBS News. "All I can say is that the president of Ukraine didn't believe that. The president of the United States on the phone call didn't say that ... if the person being threatened with withholding the aid, if they say, 'I wasn't threatened,' I don't care what any bureaucrat says."


[06-Nov-19 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This "bureaucrat" paid a million dollars to get his job.


[06-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Graham, Oct 9: "If House D’s refuse to release full transcript of Volker testimony as requested by Congressman Jordan, it will be an abuse of power."

Graham, Nov 5: "Lindsey Graham, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, doesn't plan on reading the transcripts of testimony from Volker or Sondland, declaring the entire deposition and impeachment process "B.S."


[06-Nov-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
itsounds like he was expecting the democrats to resist releasing the transcript, and then got blindsided when his tactic flopped belly up when they did, so now he;s flat out refusing to read it because he got exactly what he asked for


[06-Nov-19 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
makes the best kinda story, the ironic twist of getting exactly what you asked for.


[06-Nov-19 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, this is going to be a recurrign thing through otu the impeachment process


[06-Nov-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a really annoying reccuring thing


[06-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think any of the party leadership realizes how this looks to the votes they need


[06-Nov-19 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The base loves it, the Obama to Trump voters probably not.


[06-Nov-19 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The other issue is that trump is in the pockets of all their campaign investors such as putin, the saudi prince, erdogan, but mainly putin and his small squad of power starved oligarchs


[06-Nov-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s worship trump's feet, or risk losing the kentucky oligarch fun time ranch


[06-Nov-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They also don;t have another republican contender to replace trump as president, as trump made sure several states axed their primaries at personal request to keep anyone from running against him as a republican


[06-Nov-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That said, yeah this looks pretty bad to any undecided/independant voters


[06-Nov-19 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Nov-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469156-paul-says-he-probably-will-disclose-whistleblowers-name

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Paul says he 'probably will' disclose whistleblower's name
Sen.
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[06-Nov-19 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sitting Senator announces plan to commit federal crime"


[06-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
good move 👍


[06-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess it's OK if we all just state we'd "probably" kill him if given the chance


[06-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just, sort of, pen to the temple, clik-clak for good measure


[06-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.newsweek.com/cannibal-ants-soviet-nuclear-bunker-1469573

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One million cannibal ants trapped in Soviet nuclear weapons bunker...
The ants had fallen down a ventilation pipe and survived for years by feasting on their nestmates corpses.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1542395/nuclear-bunker.jpg


[06-Nov-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b491ca4f60f04b55903cf7f3c1df6371

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Biden accuses Warren of having elitist view of policy
Without naming her, Joe Biden attacked fellow Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Tuesday for employing a "condescending" approach to politics that smacks of "elitism." The...
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[06-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
` where he also knocked Warren for “only fairly recently in the mid-’90s” becoming a Democrat.`


[06-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
like...


[06-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
the fact that to him mid-90ies is 'only recently' is highly unlikely to impress blue crowd I'd think.


[06-Nov-19 03:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can look at it this way: Warren's been a Democrat only slightly shorter than I've been alive, I'm 28. Bernie's been true to his politics since the 1960's when he was being arrested fighting for racial Justice and railing against the same economic injustices of America and still managed a paradoxical political career.


[06-Nov-19 03:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/4AwCZIJunBI

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[06-Nov-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
When the Bern was Burlington's mayor.


[06-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oof

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[06-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
holy shit


[06-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the absolute madmen


[06-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they did it


[06-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
huh, I thought you had the system where the number of districts mattered, not the number of people?


[06-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
although I'm probably confusing it with states.


[06-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only works like that for president


[06-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[06-Nov-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Bevin says he's not conceding


[06-Nov-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://local12.com/news/local/ky-secretary-of-state-andy-beshear-wins-kentucky-gubernatorial-race

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FRANKFORT, Ky. (WKRC/AP) - Andy Beshear is the winner ofKentucky's gubernatorial race Tuesday to become the governor-elect, according to Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes. All eyes were on Kentucky Tuesday as Gov. Matt Bevin aimed to be re-elected while Kentucky Atto...
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[06-Nov-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was by over 4000 votes but okay.


[06-Nov-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
he has to pay for the recount


[06-Nov-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
and a judge has to approve it


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
4000 is close enough to be fabricated


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
this is how republicans always operate


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's much sillier when people call for recounts with 10%+ difference


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
even when they get completely trashed in the polls they always demand a recount


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and say the democrat cheated / hacked / interfered etc.


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
4000 isn't as close as like, 40


[06-Nov-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
insist that there was voter fraud


[06-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
4000 to be voter fraud would be totally absurd


[06-Nov-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats just about _never_ do this


[06-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A little less than half, but the Democrat in Mississippi isn't polling that far behind


[06-Nov-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
if you remember 2016, hillary conceded on election night _even though she won_


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
so why'd she do it then?


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because electoral college


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
to see her opposition bury their own grave?


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
if so, it worked.


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are more trusting of gov't


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[06-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
studies show liberals trust conservative gov'ts


[06-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives don't trust liberal gov'ts


[06-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to remember is the conservative/liberal split is not just wanting different policies.


[06-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a fundamental split in how the world is viewed.


[06-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not doing this again with you.


[06-Nov-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
put it this way


[06-Nov-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
if trump had lost in 2016 he would have raised a ridiculous fuss about it


[06-Nov-19 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
there would be a right wing frenzy


[06-Nov-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
there was a rumor that trump was planning to host a talk show if he lost


[06-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to see partisan symmetry is misguided.


[06-Nov-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
liberals didn't do this


[06-Nov-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
they accepted that trump had snagged the election


[06-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way things are symmetrical is very specific and is off-axis compared to how policies mirror.


[06-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that liberals trust one set of studies and conservatives another, it's that liberals trust studies **and conservatives don't** etc..


[06-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably not a good night for a lot of the GOP.

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[06-Nov-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives tend to use studies as tools to bash liberals with


[06-Nov-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't care about the results of them at all, but they are fully willing to use them to criticize liberals for doing something and saying "this study said this is bad"


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result being that if 1 study says liberal policies are bad, and 5 more say the exact opposite, conservatives take the 1 and beat liberals to death with it.


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
also called "moops" by this one youtuber


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then policy isn't enacted


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4

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[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the media talks about how this "controversial idea" isn't gaining traction and people are divided


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
except that people often *aren't* divided


[06-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like 65/35, but the 35% all vote together.


[06-Nov-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this at all connected to how liberals (and those who claim to be "centrist") are more likely to question "left wing" ideas while they give right wing ones serious attention?


[06-Nov-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so


[06-Nov-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a weirdly specific phenomenon


[06-Nov-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't seen it personally


[06-Nov-19 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC I saw among so-called "centrists" that they're more likely to embrace ideas promoted by the right than the left


[06-Nov-19 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
they get more exposure to right wing ideas


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and generally centrists tend to hold the **just-world fallacy**


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
In terms of ranking of trust, it's something like this IIRC:
1 Conservatives of conservative gov't
2 Liberals of liberal gov't
3 Liberals of conservative gov't
4 Conservatives of liberal gov't


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really that unexpected


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
which among other things provides a mental framework in which people can equate things


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives focus on ingroup vs. outgroup


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
even when they don't make sense to be compared


[06-Nov-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're "in", you're trusted, if you're "out", you're not.


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] Slipstream/Boofy#6050
You could say that about most groups


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the same false symmetry tho


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
no, you really can't


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The *defining factor* of conservatives is that they hav strong ingroup over outgroup preference.


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives exhibit groupthink


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're not familiar with the phenomenon, there's a pinned quote outlining the characteristics of it


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are much more receptive to ideas from outside the group


[06-Nov-19 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
liberals don't do that


[06-Nov-19 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Nov-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you're much more likely to see liberals be accepting of things in Obamacare *as well as* medicare for all


[06-Nov-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho Obamacare originated among conservatives


[06-Nov-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives meanwhile as soon as Obamacare became a liberal lightning rod started rejecting it


[06-Nov-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile on the flip side, liberals generally accept the OMB


[06-Nov-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A conservative creation designed to rein in spending of Democrats in congress


[06-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, conservatives now hate it, because it spoke out against their tax plan's alleged overall increase in gov't revenue


[06-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, liberals generally accept the way conservatives changed rules in the House on subpeonas and such


[06-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but now that they're being used by liberals to go after Trump, conservatives are furious


[06-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everywhere you look in governance, Republicans act extremely hypocritically, and it's all consistent based on self bias


[06-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats, even the absolutely most left wing ones, do not act the same


[06-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, the more liberal you go, like to Bernie, you find **greater** consistency across time


[06-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has been talking about how stagnang wages are bad FOR LIKE FORTY YEARS


[06-Nov-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He essentially started saying Reagan's stuff was bad while Reagan was still around.


[06-Nov-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then if you look towards moderates, you find people like Hillary and Biden who are *just now* coming around to so much as considering changing their minds


[06-Nov-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you look at the most conservative people in congress, you find that they will flip on a fukking dime about things.


[06-Nov-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see Graham, who is playing a completely different tune about Trump than about Clinton)


[06-Nov-19 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
graham's problem is that he speaks before he's up to speed on the stance that his party is going to take


[06-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's another thing


[06-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans almost always side with the party line


[06-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
so he kinda ends up saying stuff that ends up being counter (sometimes directly, but usually indirectly) to the stance the party as a whole wants to take


[06-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats may *vote* with the party line almost as often, but they are much more likely to speak out.


[06-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
so he ends up having to retract previous statements a lot


[06-Nov-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a Republican says abortions should happen they pretty much get lynched by the party


[06-Nov-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile there are anti-abortion Democrats who only stir up mild controversy during midterms.


[06-Nov-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and Bernie said it's counterproductive to go after Blue Dog Democrats etc., altho he was not really listened to on the matter)


[06-Nov-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is


[06-Nov-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are not just Republicans in a different flavor


[06-Nov-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea that they are is a propaganda point to disregard that Republicans do not believe in things like equal rights or rule of law and are actively harmful to our society.


[06-Nov-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see:whataboutism)


[06-Nov-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, the general idea with whataboutism is you find anyone doing worse, and say that if they can do it, so can you, but this is a bit more insidious, the idea is you *pretend* that Democrats do the same even when they don't, to paint them as not any better. It's not just fallacious, it's using false premises.


[06-Nov-19 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
I see conservatives make fun of democrats for going after other democrats a lot while also saying that democrats are a faceless blob that has no differing opinions


[06-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any argument suiting the moment.


[06-Nov-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
that's called the **outgroup homogeneity bias**


[06-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember, it's not about having a consistent policy.


[06-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about owning the libs.


[06-Nov-19 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
it's why white people think all asians look identical


[06-Nov-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That, and that most people only think of China, and only certain ethnicities from it, alongside Japan, when they think of Asia


[06-Nov-19 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-candidate-charged-distributing-fake-sample-ballots-election-day-1469968

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Republican candidate charged with distributing fake sample ballots...
A city councilman running for city auditor and a Republican Party official who previously pleaded guilty to theft in office have been charged with distributing fake sample ballots on Election Day.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1543006/ballots.jpg


[06-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Owning the libs" when you need two-time Obama voters to win


[06-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just think the whole GOP has gotten so behind Trump and his base that they ignore that completely


[06-Nov-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/njpq347s8vw31.png

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[06-Nov-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
This is America


[06-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fake News, it's Cuba


[06-Nov-19 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/rHigKlDn1nE

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YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[06-Nov-19 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Mississippi called for (R)


[06-Nov-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking I like how the discussion has shifted from "there's no food in Cuba" to "omg there only one product wtf"


[06-Nov-19 05:48 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2019/11/8655330/facebook-instagram-bans-sexual-use-of-emojis  probably late, but rip

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R.I.P., Peach: Facebook & Instagram Limit Sexual Emojis
Enjoy your eggplant emoji comments now, because new Facebook and Instagram rules will limit their use.
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[06-Nov-19 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Gamers rise up


[06-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a consequence largely of the shitty new law against sex solicitation on platforms.


[06-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
With emojis being collateral.


[06-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, congress violated the basic idea of platforms not being directly responsible for what's posted


[06-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means now that if a platform isn't utterly going apeshit stomping out any possible hint of people hooking up, it's liable.


[06-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk I recently found people who had no response to how the 30+ brands of say, soup or shampoo share substantially the same ingredients and the thus the choice is illusionary


[06-Nov-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Hey look it's that cunt again


[06-Nov-19 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/05/fcc-approves-t-mobile-sprint-merger-despite-serious-concerns/

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/05/fcc-approves-t-mobile-sprint-merger-despite-serious-concerns/
FCC approves T-Mobile/Sprint merger despite serious concerns – T...
The FCC has given its stamp of approval to T-Mobile and Sprint's proposed merger, saying the deal will "enhance competition" and hasten 5G deployment. Those opposed say the merger defies common sense, creating a triumvirate of mobile giants that will "divide up the market, in...
https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gettyimages-892306966.jpg?w=600


[06-Nov-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FCC shouldn't approve mergers.


[06-Nov-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
The FTC should in theory but it doesn't matter


[06-Nov-19 06:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking What's even more amusing is some retailers are finding they can generate more customer satisfaction by limiting the brands they carry since having less choices reduces the anxiety of you got the right choice. Retailers like Aldi's are known for having an extremely limited range of choices in their shelves and they do pretty good with it. I imagine as well in a commercial setting that if they can sell that shelf space, only promising that shelf space to one to three brands can make for some hella deals.


[06-Nov-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does matter


[06-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
By putting everything under the FCC, it's much easier to make corrupt shit like this happen


[06-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
if both the FCC and FTC must coordinate to push horrible shit thru, then it's more likely corruption will be stopped


[06-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the best ways to stop corruption is to make it so more people hav to be bribed.


[06-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes infeasible to bribe them all without anyone blabbing.


[06-Nov-19 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  I'm just curious would the world become more open, or even more closed regarding sex in the next decade or so


[06-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hard to say exactly


[06-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
the current generation is very open about sex, but in many ways is much harder with certain taboos


[06-Nov-19 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
We eat ass


[06-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, we're very willing to talk about gay sex and sex in general


[06-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also we're extremely loyal to age of consent law


[06-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
even in the ways it differs between countries


[06-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That suggests that we aren't just loosening taboos in general, but that the openness is largely a reflection of changing particular morals.


[06-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing is we're becoming stricter about when consent is valid based on intoxication


[06-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is somewhat to be expected given greater desire to prevent abuse of women


[06-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
however, it hints that legal pushes like SESTA FOSTA may become the norm


[06-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, sites are crakking down on *loli*, which doesn't hurt anyone


[06-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This all suggests that in the near future, we're likely to see sex become something everybody talks about...but hardly anybody actually does outside of marriage.


[06-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and marriage is shrinking)


[06-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the legal/ethical broad brushes will create chilling effects on top of how people are getting out and mingling less and less


[06-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
plus people who are more well-off and more educated hav less sex


[06-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in the next decade or so, we're going to be talking about eating ass on live TV...but the idea of actually bringing hookers to a party will be seen as unusual, @jlun2


[06-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll be entering an era where the young people literally do not understand the idea of a politician secretly banging random floosies at parties.


[06-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or a rokk star getting tons of 13-year-old pussy bakkstage.


[06-Nov-19 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[06-Nov-19 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I been fuckin hoes and poppin pillies man I feel like a rockstar


[06-Nov-19 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
<I been in the hills fuckin superstars feelin like a pop star>


[06-Nov-19 06:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  do you think fictional porn would be affected (in the near future), or mostly sit in the background as politicians demonize irl sex instead?


[06-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fictional porn is already being affected.


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Mostly through chilling effects at this stage


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't heard of any massive loli raids


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Discord banned loli, people overnite flipped from not caring to hating it.


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Just individuals getting busted for it every once in a while


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment an authority says X is no good, people line up to likk boots.


[06-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this means that in communities you randomly get pressure to avoid things.


[06-Nov-19 06:38 AM] jlun2#8758
rip. ty


[06-Nov-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/juli-briskman-trump-motorcade-flipped-off-local-office-win/index.html

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Cyclist who flipped off Trump motorcade wins local office in Virginia
The cyclist who flipped off President Donald Trump's motorcade in 2017, and lost her job because of it, has won her bid for local office in Virginia.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180919150948-juli-briskman-super-tease.jpg


[06-Nov-19 07:41 AM] Opponent#3498
in the end, what you do doesn't matter. Only how you market it.


[06-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
` things like equal rights or rule of law`


[06-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
most typically two mutually exclusive things, mind.


[06-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law is not by default exclusive with anything.


[06-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
rule of law by default is a conservative thing. It resists change.


[06-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
All rule of law says is that there are rules written down and they are enforced evenly.


[06-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
simply because it will always lag behind.


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law doesn't mean resisting change, nor is it a conservative thing.


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
and changes to law often have far-ranging consequences which aren't immediately obvious.


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
rule of law to me = law is absolute.


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
what is it for you?


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not "absolute"


[06-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute to me implies that like, what the gov't doesn't like gets stomped on


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law does not necessarily mean that


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law means that what's actually written down is followed.


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
no. Absolute is 'law can do no wrong'. It's always 'right'. That's America's general belief, isn't it. Universal one.


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
worship of law and legislation.


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not rule of law either


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
so what is it then?


[06-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law means that when someone breaks the law, you go thru the proper process and punish them.


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means you don't turn a blind eye when people break the law


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor do you spare certain people from the law


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
no matter what the law is. If they break it, you punish.


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Correct.


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
it does run counter to 1%.


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
but for the most part, that's how it is for the majority for population.


[06-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so in essence, you're already living the dream.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law *further* means that when someone is like, super disrespecting the law, *but not breaking it*, you don't go searching for something to take them down.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
you the individual typically do not encounter directly someone else breaking the law and avoiding it because of the system


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
because of the status.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law means dispassionately applying the law and making sure it doesn't hav loopholes.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
no


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
loopholes are irrelevant.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
it say nothing about quality of law.


[06-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
only it's reach.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Loopholes are highly relevant because they can cause the law to fail at enforcement.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Opponent#3498
loopholes are a part of the legal system. Of wording. Of framework.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just to make something legal itself when not intended.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Opponent#3498
there is always a way to game the system.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the point is


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
unless people break the law and apply 'justice' when they _think_ the law is broken.


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Applying the law dispassionately


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's not the rule of law anymore.


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
does not exclude equal rights in any form


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a **_requirement_** of them


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't. It also doesn't imply any in any form.


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it all comes down to who writes the law.


[06-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If rule of law is not a thing, if some people go free and others don't, that creates inequality of legal rights


[06-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is inequality of rights by definition


[06-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Opponent#3498
for X a white gets a fine, a negro gets a bullet, that's rule of law.


[06-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law doesn't require equal rights


[06-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but equal rights require rule of law


[06-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
there is unlikely to be such a thing as legal framework that can truly support equal rights


[06-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives do not believe in rule of law *for that reason*.


[06-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
no. I'd say for them it's amazing.


[06-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
legislate against their opponents and shut them down forever.


[06-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They view rule of law in a context of the law requiring equal rights to make rule of law the enemy.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the law in the US says to giv equal rights.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
it can always be changed.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives therefore want to *ignore* that law.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, they want it ideally to be removed.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
so you want the rule of law only when you think the law is beneficial to your cause, in essence.


[06-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not what rule of law is either :D


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
rule of law by default prevents anti-law arguments.


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm saying what the groups currently want


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is currently wanted by liberals is equal rights AND rule of law


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
'you' is the groups, you personally might be ambivalent about it.


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives currently want unequal rights, and are *neutral* about rule of law.


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing that most people don't get.


[06-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd posit these two are potentially exclusive too. Something can go wrong, and people who advocated for rule of law are inhabiting new Gulags and wonder where things went wrong.


[06-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives do not *care* whether the law is followed or not, but liberals do.


[06-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's the problem.


[06-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if the law said to hav inequality, libs would be hesitant to say to enforce it as such, but they wouldn't do the same as conservatives do now with just trying to ignore it.


[06-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
unless you REALLY get to choose who writes the laws, which will always come before their enforcement, this can very, very easily destroy you.


[06-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a fundamental difference in perception of authority.


[06-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals generally will follow either a liberal or conservative gov't


[06-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives only follow a conservative gov't


[06-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Opponent#3498
this sounds like propaganda. But sure. To me it doesn't matter whether it's true or not.


[06-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
this advication for rule of law is one of the greatest issues the world has with America's liberals.


[06-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://psmag.com/news/many-conservatives-only-trust-government-when-their-party-is-in-power

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Many Conservatives Only Trust Government When Their Party Is in Power
New research finds that liberals' confidence in government is not affected by the party affiliation of the president. That's not true of the right.
https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTYyMDkzMTk2OTM4MDYxNDM3/gettyimages-622153362.jpg


[06-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
within America? I don't know. It makes a good talking point.


[06-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I can believe that.


[06-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
cause there's always a threat that liberals legislate something insane for them, like gun control to the point of UK the cucked land of shovering permits.


[06-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
and what then?


[06-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing the bigger picture here


[06-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
just the same, liberals would never follow a government that's opposed to their ideals.


[06-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the case


[06-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Opponent#3498
do they follow Trump's government? He was stupid enough to be open about his stupidity, so lets ignore him. What about saner people before?


[06-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals ideologically are based around compassion, which tends to cause less impulsive and immediate behavior


[06-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a result, they tend to act with greater rationality


[06-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals are more willing to listen to what's actually going on.


[06-Nov-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives ideologically are based around fear, which tends to cause very impulsive, immediate, and intense behavior


[06-Nov-19 08:04 AM] Opponent#3498
compassion like any emotional/moral motivator is a perfect catalyst for impulsive decisions. The horrible things like court of internet public justice was born out of a good idea.


[06-Nov-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they are constantly fearing worst cases like that


[06-Nov-19 08:04 AM] Opponent#3498
but even without extremes like that


[06-Nov-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a matter of what practice actually bores out


[06-Nov-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's not *because* liberals are getting more done than conservatives, the two are often pretty much equal in governance and legislative changes


[06-Nov-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(in the US, anyways)


[06-Nov-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the ideological difference, conservatives fear liberal change a lot, *liberals do not fear conservative change a lot*.


[06-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals respond to conservative change and it's potential by either getting mad (both sides get mad) or getting sad.


[06-Nov-19 08:07 AM] Opponent#3498
why would they fear conservative changes a lot? Conservatism by definition is 'shut up and chew' methodology. The system works, the system worked forever', it is eternal'. ' literal definitions are besides the point.


[06-Nov-19 08:07 AM] Opponent#3498
you fear the unknown and generally, without a Trump in office, their motives are pretty clear. More of the same +/-, in spirit if not practice.


[06-Nov-19 08:08 AM] Opponent#3498
liberal motives are, fuck, whatever goes at any given moment.


[06-Nov-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shut up and chew in the US involves people with diabetes dying because they can't afford a drug that's at a 10,000% markup and children dying in the desert, along with some of the worst wealth inequality in the world.


[06-Nov-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US has very extreme problems right now


[06-Nov-19 08:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not saying it's just.


[06-Nov-19 08:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm saying it's predictable.


[06-Nov-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but still, liberals do not react generally with fear


[06-Nov-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No matter how much the system doesn't work, liberal ideology doesn't turn to anxiety and paranoia.


[06-Nov-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looking at conservatism's goals and practice as being some sacred stability really doesn't make sense in the context of the US.


[06-Nov-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when the vast majority of conservative rhetoric is focusing on attempting to reverse longstanding legal traditions.


[06-Nov-19 08:11 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a reaction to liberal 'end the corrupted system, 5 year plan in 3 years'


[06-Nov-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, in a way, conservatives are looking to the system that "worked forever"...as in like, traditional European society with slaves and serfs.


[06-Nov-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it is, tho


[06-Nov-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives routinely ignore the 14th amendment


[06-Nov-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was added to the constitution in the mid 19th century


[06-Nov-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is currently a case being argued by the Trump administration to allow discrimination on the basis of sex, something which was outlawed over 40 years ago


[06-Nov-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't just want to overturn gay marriage or stop letting trans people in the military


[06-Nov-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're outright putting in legislation that allows people to opt out of anti-discrimination law that's half a century old based on arbitrary reasons.


[06-Nov-19 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
("Religious Freedom" laws)


[06-Nov-19 08:14 AM] Opponent#3498
and the odds that society generally accepts that are pretty slim. Society has a choice though. There's no rule of absolute law. Yet.


[06-Nov-19 08:14 AM] Opponent#3498
way I see it, shit like this needs to be opposed. There need to be incremental changes in society moving towards the equal ideal.


[06-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there *are* incremental changes...that's literally most of what Obama campaigned on


[06-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Opponent#3498
the rule of law though, comes later. When all you're facing in your society is great laws that are being avoided, yeah, you _probably_ can think about it.


[06-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And fulfilled such promises on


[06-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The repeal of DADT is a great success story of incremental and well-reasoned change


[06-Nov-19 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
are you there? With your neolibs and their massive government lobby for example?


[06-Nov-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It didn't just happen overnite and the military had been begging for it for years.


[06-Nov-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think seeing rule of law as requiring *unchanging* law is a bit daft, tbh.


[06-Nov-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a much simpler concept, that people actually follow the law and the law be enforced evenly.


[06-Nov-19 08:17 AM] Opponent#3498
it only takes one crisis for legal framework to become compromised. 9/11 gave you Patriot's act. Not to say the government didn't try to build a global surveliance before, but now suddenly it became legal.


[06-Nov-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of having some kind of immutable law in place that just sits society in one spot forever without any discussion of change is...well it's like a conservative's wet dream of being able to just make the year 1700 forever.


[06-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things are never going to be perfect.


[06-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we keep the law open to changes to begin with and actually hav a judiciary to review.


[06-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the Patriot Act isn't great, but IIRC some parts hav been amended over time to fix the more severe issues


[06-Nov-19 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
(especially after one of the people who wrote it learned that it was being massively misused from what he had written)


[06-Nov-19 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
I furiously press X to doubt that it was ever used 'not as intended' because it's intent was, from our post-Soviet experience, pretty damn crystal clear, but this is subjective, so I'll disregard it.


[06-Nov-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a lot of current conservative rhetoric in the US is opposed to judicial review.


[06-Nov-19 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because judicial review can do things like correct crazy impulsive laws passed during periods of fear


[06-Nov-19 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And actually enforce things like the 14th amendment when a state legislature tries to make things waaaay less equal with particular law.


[06-Nov-19 08:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and this is great. But they see it as potential tool of control, again leading to awful laws for their side. They see the worst outcome, probably in everything now that I think about it. Equal LGBT rights meaning harsh discrimination against while/straight/males, for instance, the pendulum swinging the other way, and so on.


[06-Nov-19 08:22 AM] Opponent#3498
while liberals see the good/mixed outcome, else there wouldn't be energy to push for change


[06-Nov-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of righs being a zero sum game is fundamentally flawed


[06-Nov-19 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making gay people able to be employed doesn't mean straight people suddenly hav hard times finding work.


[06-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harsh discrimination against straight white males is almost unheard of


[06-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can only find it by extreme cherrypikking


[06-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
harsh discrimination in the other direction is trivially easy to find


[06-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, discrimination in *both* these directions in particular contexts was more common in the past


[06-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because while being blakk would get you beat up by police, being white or asian would get you robbed when race riots happened


[06-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giving rights to minorities does not suddenly turn things into the minorities teaming up against the majority


[06-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In human social interactions, angry ideas, including violent actions, generally proliferate by running in both directions


[06-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's not really a practical possibility, because they're so internally divided as well


[06-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you reduce the angry ideas in one direction, it dampens the creation of them in the opposite direction


[06-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, if whites aren't treating blakks like shit all the time, it tends to lead to blakks giving whites the time of day.


[06-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looking for a "pendulum swing in the opposite direction" there is foolish


[06-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Opponent#3498
not doubting that. Still, that's the core idea.


[06-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would not expect someone to be hostile to a former enemy that has made peace.


[06-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Opponent#3498
...wellllll that's not the best example.


[06-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's...not reasonable to expect hostilities to increase after peace has been made.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
you won't get organised hostilities from the government, but from the populace it's very different.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
that's an exception though.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about the gov't


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, racial divisions operate like other social interactions


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
yeeah, people would absolutely still hate the opposing side, peace or not.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's war.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
societal struggle is less dramatic.


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The less hostility from your enemy, the less hostility to them in return


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is generally a tit-for-tat system


[06-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
and I agee with you that this is how it would work there.


[06-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, the less you can distinguish your enemy, the less likely you are to ever be hostile, out of fear of hurting your own.


[06-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
_glances to rapidly increasing rates of biracial births_


[06-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
true, but, again, in practice, that's now how it works in this particular scenario, if at least 20th century history taught me anything.


[06-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it eventually will... _Eventually_


[06-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
What in the 20th century US indicated that reducing discrimination towards a targeted group led to increased discrimination in the opposite direction?


[06-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Opponent#3498
no-no. I was thinking about actual military conflict, not societal changes.


[06-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
for society, a particular individual has generally far less exposure to the negative impact of the opposition, relative to war.


[06-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In that case, when did reducing hostilities to an enemy lead to the enemy responding with greater hostilities, over a long period?


[06-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it ever did, at least no example immediately springs to mind. But I also don't often find examples of people actually making the first move willingly. Usually they were forced to do it by outside factors, one way or another (partition of Germany comes to mind, bolstered by propaganda efforts of 'we killed all the nazis, those are the good guys now')


[06-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
as opposed to, say, French-German post-ww1 relationship.


[06-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a racial conflict, the gov't is the outside factor.


[06-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, so, coming back to your point of 'the worst outcome & reaction vs neutral/positive outcome and progress'. I think this _can_ be changed, if the society is somehow turned to or taught to think more positively in general. Not 'unbridled optimism' but 'not everything always turns out for the worst'. It doesn't help that blue or red states seem to be echo chambers of a sort, of course... But theoretically I'd say this can be changed.


[06-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory. I think the internet will help simply because it provides more information at an early age, which tends to improve cognitive development and raise intelligence.


[06-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
and on a separate note, this is why people resist US liberal image and ideas. Things like rule of law have a long history of going horribly wrong around the world, if not nessesarily in US (US has the history of rebounding from borderline libertarianism, their historical path is more or less the opposite overall). That's why I certainly would oppose it, on this section alone.


[06-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting smart is largely about being able to connect lots of knowledge together to form new ideas. Learning a new language was the traditional way to vastly increase knowledge, but "let's teach all the kids spanish" doesn't go over well in the South etc.


[06-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "key" to the US's overall somewhat sanity is largely the constitution


[06-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 1st thru 15th amendments are big deals.


[06-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are supreme law grants of particular rights to the people.


[06-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
in post-USSR, even in wild 90ies, there generally was an accepted code of conduct in public areas. It was not ideal, in many ways, it was almost entirely detached from formal government-'enforced' law, but it worked as it was far more adaptive and relevant, as well as easier to actually enforce.


[06-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning you cannot just on a whim pass a law to remove them, as they're "supreme".


[06-Nov-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And further, it is very hard to drum up support for removing any, because people do not generally like to lose things.


[06-Nov-19 08:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not an image I'd like repeated, but it wasn't all negative either. The law being the only absolute, by comparison, seems... really awful.


[06-Nov-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even as conservatives bemoan the 14th amendment, realistically they can never repeal it.


[06-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only delay the courts slowly seeing how society violates it and saying society can't do that anymore.


[06-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to consider is a SCOTUS case of a guy arrested for having lots of injection marks on his arm


[06-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a law against being an addict to certain drugs, which are injected


[06-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
obviously, he had used the drug at some points in the recent past


[06-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS threw out the law.


[06-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They said it was a violation of the 14th amendment to punish someone *for being an addict*


[06-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
States can punish you for taking a drug, but they can't punish you for being addicted to it.


[06-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In virtually any other country, the conviction would've been upheld.


[06-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, many countries hav constitutions in the modern day, often inspired by the US one, but even then, many of them don't hav quite as many huge grants of rights.


[06-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 1st amendment for instance is pretty unthinkable over in Europe.


[06-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it means that you can't throw someone in jail for saying racist things.


[06-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, actually taking Constitution _seriously_ is what sets US above the rest.


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the EU has some idea of "freedom of expression", but it's...a lot more tilted to the gov't's favor


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like in the UK, one time an art exhibit with a photo of naked young Brooke Shields got taken down


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the US, this would've provoked an uproar


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
like, we have a 'Constitution'. It only becomes relevant in political/electional struggle as a talking point.


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
(note: the photo used came from the US)


[06-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
'Un-constitutional' is a very popular buzzword here.


[06-Nov-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, saying "unconstitutional" is a very strong thing usually said of particular laws created by conservatives with clear intent to create unequal rights.


[06-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's essentially saying the law is dead on arrival.


[06-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing else really compares.


[06-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's... the great difference in actual implementation of written stuff.


[06-Nov-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the gulf between "this law is bad, everyone hates it, and it'll probably get repealed, and it literally kills babies, and also it's incompatible with this other law passed at the same time" and "this law is unconstitutional" is *vast*


[06-Nov-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to note about arguing, is that the fewer points you make, the more likely the argument is not brushed off.


[06-Nov-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
A single minor point that's flimsy added to an argument weakens the perception of the whole argument.


[06-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you can *only* argue a law is unconstitutional, it avoids getting into the huge forest of talking about why it's otherwise bad.


[06-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, while conservatives may not respect liberal authority, SCOTUS normally isn't seen as being very liberal, and so they often see it as a trustworthy authority


[06-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when it drops the hammer, being the top deciding force on laws...not much conservatives can really argue later on that particular front


[06-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, they oppose Roe v Wade *now*, but it's like 40 years old


[06-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they've been building to even so much as trying to get a wedge in for *years*


[06-Nov-19 10:10 AM] ononim#8141
I am not reading all of this, anything actually interesting happened?


[06-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
just a philosophical discussion, rule of law and it's effects.


[06-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
although if I had read the posts after my last visit to the end, I'd also latch onto many other things. This was just the first.


[06-Nov-19 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/03e78ab61fd94074b49bcfbf73ba4f84

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Analysis: Trump's GOP has no answer for suburban slide
NEW YORK (AP) — The suburban revolt against President Donald Trump's Republican Party is growing. And if nothing else, the GOP's struggle across the South on Tuesday revealed that...
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[06-Nov-19 11:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-jr-new-book-about-how-he-feels-like-victim-2019-11

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Trump Jr.’s new book is a lengthy rant about how his family has ...
Donald Trump Jr.'s book is filled with falsehoods as he decries critics of the Trump family and paints himself as a victim of unfair attacks.
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[06-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, it must be so hard being a millionare

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[06-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't imagine the stress of knowing you can just do whatever you want whenever you want without any real responsibilities


[06-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be soulcrushing


[06-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The hard part is watching your back.


[06-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is difficult not to have enemies with a such wealth.


[06-Nov-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then maybe they shouldnt have painted a bullseye ont heir backs by getting into politics...


[06-Nov-19 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with their history of criminal enterprise


[06-Nov-19 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
honestly though.


[06-Nov-19 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're waddling into limelight, don't complain about hate.


[06-Nov-19 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that was a choice you made on your own.


[06-Nov-19 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/469166-cyclist-fired-after-seen-flipping-off-trumps-motorcade-wins-seat-on

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Cyclist seen flipping off Trump's motorcade wins seat on local cou...
A woman who drew widespread attention in 2017 after she was seen flipping off President Trump's motorcade while riding a bicycle has won a seat on the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors in Northern Virginia.
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[06-Nov-19 12:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I've seen this one elsewhere:
 A random guy flipped off in direction of motorcade,  one of convoy vehicles stopped and detained him on grounds of "crimen injuria", but then they released him.


[06-Nov-19 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-mike-pences-office-meddled-in-foreign-aid-to-reroute-money-to-favored-christian-groups

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How Mike Pence’s Office Meddled in Foreign Aid to Reroute Money ...
Officials at USAID warned that favoring Christian groups in Iraq could be unconstitutional and inflame religious tensions. When one colleague lost her job, they said she had been “Penced.”
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[06-Nov-19 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck is it with Republicans and fucking with foreign aid?


[06-Nov-19 03:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Because they are foreigners.


[06-Nov-19 03:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, their desire to help others is *contingent* on others being those of the correct type.


[06-Nov-19 03:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a foreigner is already bad in their books, being a *non-christian, non-white* foreigner to them means complete exclusion from society.


[06-Nov-19 05:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Chile, an orchestra was organized by the protestors to commemorate the fallen of October https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=414145799278751

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[06-Nov-19 05:58 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Nov-19 06:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> Being a foreigner is already bad in their books, being a non-christian, non-white foreigner to them means complete exclusion from society.
I'm curious if this will ever change in my lifetime (politic wise, not demographic wise; possible for the former to completely not represent the latter)


[06-Nov-19 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[06-Nov-19 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469249-graham-calls-trump-ukraine-policy-incoherent-says-admin-seems-incapable-of

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Graham calls Trump-Ukraine policy 'incoherent': Admin seems 'incap...
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[06-Nov-19 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, the "too dumb to have done it" defense

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[06-Nov-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
if the president is too stupid to have a coherent foreign policy he's too stupid to be president


[06-Nov-19 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't understand this defense


[06-Nov-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
>    Kentucky doesn't have an automatic recount provision, though candidates can petition — and bankroll — a statewide recount, Joe Sonka explains at the Louisville Courier Journal. First, losing candidates typically request a recanvass of the vote in each county. The recount is the next stage, and it involves a judge counting ballots and determining the winner, subject to appeal up to the Kentucky Supreme Court.
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>    Republican Senate President Robert Stivers suggested a dicier option Tuesday night: Let the GOP state legislature decide the winner. Section 90 of the state Constitution says "contested elections for governor and lieutenant governor shall be determined by both houses of the General Assembly, according to such regulations as may be established by law." Stivers said his staff believes that might apply in this case. The last "contested" governors race was in 1899, the Courier Journal reports.


[06-Nov-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
"our cheating didn't work so we will win by cheating"


[06-Nov-19 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He won by thousands of votes


[06-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, when the GOP wins via electoral college, it's "elections matter, get over it"


[06-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the GOP loses on all counts, it's "actually, this is contested so..."


[06-Nov-19 06:57 PM] byte[]#2610
don't be surprised to see a SCOTUS case in the next year where they rule that the state congress can do whatever it wants with the governor because the KY constitution was "ambiguous"


[06-Nov-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd pull the same shit in a 60-40 win


[06-Nov-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just throw out the public vote entirely etc.


[06-Nov-19 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[06-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck is wrong with her?


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've gone over this before


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
how about you make it go from 11-6 then


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
not 8-6


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the driving force that keeps oppressed people oppressed is fear that they will be the next target


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
they turn on each other.


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if


[06-Nov-19 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
kids really really need more sleep


[06-Nov-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
As shitty as it may sound, you should ultimately fear the first minorities to actually get into something as far as politics.


[06-Nov-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You made the work day two hours shorter instead


[06-Nov-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they will be the ones who got ahead by putting down their own and furthering the bad stuff.


[06-Nov-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was pretty much a miracle he wasn't any worse.


[06-Nov-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/magazine/adam-schiff-impeachment.html

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Inside Adam Schiff’s Impeachment Game Plan
Democrats believe the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee could be the man to bring down President Trump. This is how he’s running his investigation.
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[06-Nov-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
don't know if you need a subscription to read it or not


[06-Nov-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I can cut the text if someone can't access it


[06-Nov-19 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NYT really needs to stop this shit


[06-Nov-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“On the one hand, you’re shocked, and at the same time, you’re not surprised,” Schiff said of the information he was in the midst of uncovering. “And maybe that’s the most awful thing about this.”'


[06-Nov-19 07:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/05/vladimir-putin-calls-for-reliable-russian-version-of-wikipedia

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Vladimir Putin calls for 'reliable' Russian version of Wikipedia
President says user-edited site should be replaced with Big Russian Encyclopaedia
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[06-Nov-19 07:18 PM] ononim#8141

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[06-Nov-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
tfw live in a shithole country

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[06-Nov-19 07:20 PM] ononim#8141
what the fuck is up with big countries what just rot the people's brains


[06-Nov-19 07:20 PM] ononim#8141
especially when it comes to governments


[06-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping the country together means control


[06-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
dumber people are easier to control


[06-Nov-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in a really democratic system, it is rewarding to make the people smarter, so there's some incentive there


[06-Nov-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia isn't that democratic


[06-Nov-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
making the people smarter just leads to revolution in its case.


[06-Nov-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus, the internet providing real information is an existentital threat to Putin.


[06-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/most-illegal-crossings-in-12-years-border-patrol-took-851-000-into-custody-during-fiscal-2019

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Most illegal crossings in 12 years: Border Patrol took 851,000 int...
Border Patrol agents working along the United States-Mexico border took into custody approximately 851,000 people in the U.S. government’s fiscal 2019, marking the highest number of arrests since 2007, according to federal data exclusively obtained by the Washington Examiner.
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[06-Nov-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Disgusting


[06-Nov-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Immigration should be easy and legal


[06-Nov-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
How about we make it, or facilitate the development of their countries of origin so they're not so inclined to leave? Because it'd about to get worse ten fold.


[06-Nov-19 07:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
And we're going to add Floridians to that too


[06-Nov-19 08:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/six-elephants-fall-to-their-death-trying-to-save-each-other-at-thai-waterfall

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Six elephants fall to their death trying to save each other at Tha...
Six elephants plummeted to their deaths in Thailand on Saturday while trying to save each other from a treacherous waterfall.
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[06-Nov-19 08:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
This isn't the news channel. Try General Discussion


[06-Nov-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the elephants wore zebraface once.


[06-Nov-19 08:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49984367

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Special sitting for MPs to decide Brexit future
Parliament will meet on Saturday 19 October after a key EU summit to approve the next steps for the UK.
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[06-Nov-19 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Month old article


[06-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
So is the UK still part of the EU?


[06-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I honestly stop following on it


[06-Nov-19 08:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[06-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Up until end of Jan, maybe


[06-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the 23rd century, and the United Federation of Planets is mapping the stars, except for the UK, which is still trying to leave the EU.


[06-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they agree on the deal they agreed to already, they can leave earlier


[06-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Reading the article linked above, seems like this is going to crawl for a good time still


[06-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If not, no deal exist on the 31st, or yet another request for extension


[06-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I've pointed out before, actually doing Brexit is detrimental to conservatives' goals.


[06-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which may not be granted


[06-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is perfectly in line with their goals is saying they're going to do it, looking like they're going to do it, and maintaining status quo as long as possible.


[06-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I wonder if at any point they could actually try a second plebiscite or just give up on it entirely


[06-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of Brexit is to defund the NHS and other programs


[06-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
while the populace is distracted with other fears


[06-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've honestly stopped following it


[06-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The news about it is always the same


[06-Nov-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
nothing happens, conservatives say to stay the course, meanwhile the NHS is losing funding, and nobody likes what's going on


[06-Nov-19 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only bright spot is that *eventually* Boris will be ousted and maybe his party will lose at the polls in the upcoming election.


[06-Nov-19 08:27 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Ironically I remember here in Brazil we had a plebiscite regarding weapon restriction to civilians which the majority voted against and the government restricted it either ways /shrug


[06-Nov-19 08:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2019/10/08/apple-macos-catalina-broken-update-mac-imac-macbook-pro-fix-mistake/

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Apple Confirms Serious MacBook Pro Problems For Media Creatives An...
Apple has confirmed that there are some major issues with macOS Catalina, and is suggesting that affected consumers should refrain from updating the desktop OS.
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[06-Nov-19 08:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/oh-s-t-the-moment-fbi-agents-found-hillary-clinton-emails-on-anthony-weiners-laptop/

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‘Oh s–t’: The moment FBI agents found Hillary Clinton emails...
FBI agents were stunned to find thousands of Hillary Clinton’s private emails while examining Anthony Weiner’s electronic devices for explicit text messages with a teen girl, a new book alleges. Th…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/hilary-clinton.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[06-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Jasonwalls92/status/1191579220004065280

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Green MP @_chloeswarbrick was heckled by a National MP during her speech on the Zero Carbon Bill.

She fired back with "okay boomer" but the captions on Parliament TV clearly have not yet got the memo on millennial slang:
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[06-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the ERA would become a new amendment had it not expired because of VA


[06-Nov-19 08:40 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  late, but Earth-exit discussions is on the way in 10,000 AD, and UK still hesistent


[06-Nov-19 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ccd8cf07-903f-4a77-9f71-4ea9aa56fef8.png

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[06-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.the-postillon.com/2019/01/euxit.html

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Easier than Brexit: all countries except Great Britain are leaving...
Maybe that's the best way to do it. With Great Britain obviously being unable to execute its exit from the European Union in an orderly manner within the planned two years, the other Member States have now decided to take a different, more straightforward route: They want to ...
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[06-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/impeachment-transcript-reveals-trumps-eu-ambassador-ordered-state-dept-not-to-monitor-ukraine-call/

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Impeachment transcript reveals Trump’s EU ambassador ordered Sta...
The U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland tried to make sure there was no record of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, a former diplomat told congressional investigators. In testimony released on Wednesday, former United...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/volodymyr-zelensky-and-donald-trump.jpg


[06-Nov-19 09:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-raine-riggs-dies-two-days-diagnosis-neuroendocrine-cancer-1464035

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Bernie Sanders' daughter-in-law Raine Riggs dies two days after di...
Riggs came down with a mysterious illness three weeks ago that had the hospitals "stumped."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1534536/bernie-sanders-2017.jpg


[06-Nov-19 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you going through some other server's #politics channel and posting month-old articles as you scroll by or something?


[06-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Wilson again


[06-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-told-kentuckys-voters-to-make-the-election-about-him-they-did-and-hes-fucked

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Trump Told Kentucky’s Voters to Make the Election About Him. The...
Trump proved this week that big rallies, big talk, and bad campaigns are a recipe for electoral disaster, and alienated suburban voters are a dagger in the heart of the GOP.
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[06-Nov-19 09:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50304322

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Universal credit adverts banned as 'misleading'
The Advertising Standards Agency bans adverts claiming people found work faster on universal credit.
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[06-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
"members only 🔒", @byte[]


[06-Nov-19 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
uhh


[06-Nov-19 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
on phone atm


[06-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/793a7b5ef800414dbc1644997087fe99

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White House adding aides to deal with impeachment inquiry
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is beefing up its communications staff as it tries to grapple with the ongoing House impeachment investigation. Pam Bondi, the former attorney general of...
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[06-Nov-19 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She looks like the greeter at a cult meeting


[06-Nov-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She joyfully leads the sacrificial aides to the revolving door meat grinder as they give their bodies to repell negative impeachment waves


[06-Nov-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kjdrennen/status/1192127324797513729

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WATCH as @RepMarkMeadows pushes back on @MSNBC's impeachment spin in real time https://t.co/ApEWpXAjUI
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[06-Nov-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he spun in real time alright


[06-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a cartoon


[06-Nov-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_9FEx7ymg

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THANASiTO
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Inti Illimani - El Pueblo Unido
The people united will never be defeated, The people united will never be defeated... Arise, sing We are going to win. Flags of unity are now advancing. And ...
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[06-Nov-19 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-columbus-indiana-democrats-gain-control-city-council-1470028

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Democrats have taken control of Mike Pence's hometown for the firs...
Democrats now have the majority of seats in Columbus, Indiana's City Council.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1543108/mike-pence.jpg


[06-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-city-votes-remove-martin-luther-king-s-name-historic-n1077081

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Kansas City votes to remove Martin Luther King's name from histori...
The debate over the name of the 10-mile boulevard on the city's mostly black east side began shortly after the council's decision in January to rename the street for King.
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[06-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[06-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
> Kansas City voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly approved removing Martin Luther King's name from one of the city's most historic boulevards, less than a year after the city council decided to rename The Paseo for the civil rights icon.


[06-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh, street renaming is retarded


[06-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It creates all sort of stupid unnecessary complications


[06-Nov-19 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's not like there aren't new streets that need names


[06-Nov-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/469306-ti-faces-viral-criticism-after-saying-he-goes-with-daughter-to

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T.I. faces widespread criticism after admitting he goes with daugh...
T.I. has received widespread criticism online for remarks he made in a recent interview, in which he claimed he takes his 18-year-old daughter to the gynecologist on a yearly basis to "check her hymen."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ti_rapper_getty_0.jpg


[06-Nov-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck


[06-Nov-19 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[06-Nov-19 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
what the fuck


[06-Nov-19 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
also, who the hell is "T.I."


[06-Nov-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.I.

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T.I.
Clifford Joseph Harris Jr. (born September 25, 1980), known professionally as T.I. and Tip (often stylized as TIP or T.I.P.), is an American rapper and actor. Harris signed his first major-label record deal in 1999 with Arista subsidiary LaFace. In 2001, Harris formed the Sou...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/T.I._performing_in_concert%2C_wearing_a_Phoenix_Suns_cap_%28cropped%29.jpg


[06-Nov-19 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
clifford the big red sexist


[06-Nov-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what?


[06-Nov-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-religion-lawsuit/u-s-judge-voids-trump-backed-conscience-rule-for-healthcare-workers-idUSKBN1XG2DD?il=0

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Trump's 'conscience' rule for healthcare workers struck down by U....
A federal judge on Wednesday voided a White House-backed rule making it easier f...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191106&t=2&i=1449128288&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA51VR


[06-Nov-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
> A federal judge on Wednesday voided a White House-backed rule making it easier for doctors, nurses and other healthcare providers to avoid performing abortions and other medical services on religious or moral grounds.


[06-Nov-19 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
> U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer in Manhattan said the “conscience” rule was unconstitutionally coercive because it would let the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) withhold billions of dollars of funding from hospitals, clinics, universities and other healthcare providers that did not comply.


[06-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/05/776051741/they-have-stolen-everything-from-us-iraqs-anti-government-protests-continue

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'They Have Stolen Everything From Us': Iraq's Anti-Government Prot...
Much of the protesters' anger is directed at Iran and at corrupt Iraqi politicians. "Parliament is just mafias and corrupt parties — all of them came to destroy this country," says one protester.
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[06-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh I was late for the hymen thing


[06-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*What the fuck*


[06-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
>finding this as a surprise


[06-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, guys


[06-Nov-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
age of consent law literally wasn't written to protect children


[06-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was written originally to protect fathers


[06-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
from their daughters losing their virginity and thus marriage potential too early


[06-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why in the US it's illegal to fukk a 10-year-old...unless she's your wife.


[06-Nov-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can marry a 10 year old in america?


[06-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
In several states, yes.


[06-Nov-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is one of thme alabama?


[06-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think technically you could also marry one in another country like Syria, and come over to America, and the marriage would still be considered valid.


[06-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Alabama is one of them, tho it's one of the stricter such states on it.


[06-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, there's always some caveat


[06-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
like needing parental approval


[06-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
or a judge's approval


[06-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
or both


[06-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it was designed so that, at the time, you could marry a 12-year-old and rape her every day.


[06-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then later in the 20th century, marital rape was outlawed.


[06-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you had to get consent from your child bride etc.


[06-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nowadays, marriage is on the decline, and child marriages being uncommon to begin with means they're virtually gone.


[06-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't change the past


[06-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
the laws were written in a patriarchical society in which women couldn't vote and were basically sex slaves.


[06-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's only been a century.


[06-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are still people whose idea of the world is that it's the duty of every father to hav his son go out and grab every female he can find from age 11 onwards, and to make sure his daughter from 11 onwards doesn't get grabbed.


[06-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to keep their wife in the kitchen running the household while they earn money, etc.


[06-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/oR5PNu2

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No Shite.
https://i.imgur.com/dC4n5CGh.jpg


[06-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
This is how Americans believe money is distributed in our economy:

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[06-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
And this is how Americans believe money should be distributed:

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[06-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
But this is how the money is actually distributed:

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[06-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
Oops. The top 0.1%'s money wouldn't fit in that graph. So we'll have to stack it next to the graph:

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[06-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/UpgCAfN.png

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[06-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[06-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But wasn't he a Lost?


[06-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realderekutley/status/1192141447908249601

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Derek Utley (@realDerekUtley)
https://twitter.com/realderekutley/status/1192141447908249601
Joe, just stop it already. You’re so creepy! 

https://t.co/dAgTCsBgNi
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[06-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
oh my fucking god biden is such a creep


[06-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like he went in to kiss her forehead like she was a baby


[06-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
then realized too late she was older than that


[06-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and just sort of let things falter.


[06-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is not aging well.


[06-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are we sure he's actually still alive and not just relying on self-necromancy?


[06-Nov-19 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i mean, look at this


[06-Nov-19 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1171589756670685190

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Chris D. Jackson (@ChrisDJackson)
https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1171589756670685190
I am proud to endorse @JoeBiden today. It's time we had a president who will restore the soul of America, rebuild our middle class & unify our great nation. 

Joe's experience and character set him apart and are what makes him the best person for the job. 
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[06-Nov-19 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he looks like a dry raisin


[06-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sheesh in the thumbnail, with the lighting, it looks like he's a zombie.


[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEJSq9sXoAAYU1u.jpg:large

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[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
it doesn't get better when it's bigger


[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
it looks like a weird painting


[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the crap is going on with the right side of his face?


[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
it looks like they're both cardboard cut-outs


[06-Nov-19 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's a shadow i think


[07-Nov-19 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the background is a creepy smiling woman


[07-Nov-19 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this picture gets mroe cursed the longer you look at it


[07-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
is that vsauce behind biden


[07-Nov-19 12:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden's ear looks large


[07-Nov-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Hi VSauce here. What if I really killed Biden?"


[07-Nov-19 12:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Hi VSauce here. What if I killed Biden, but not really? It could be suicide."


[07-Nov-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden's eye looks liek it;s sucking his face into it


[07-Nov-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.al.com/news/2019/11/alabama-sga-warns-groups-protest-trump-during-lsu-game-risk-losing-reserved-seating.html

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https://www.al.com/news/2019/11/alabama-sga-warns-groups-protest-trump-during-lsu-game-risk-losing-reserved-seating.html
Ahead of Trump visit, UA SGA warns students: No disruptive behavior
The Student Government Association at the University of Alabama is warning student groups that causing disruptions during President Trump’s visit to the Tide’s Saturday game vs. LSU could result in the loss of reserved seating for the remainder of the season.
https://www.al.com/resizer/IXDRy5qiCnJ-ohN1A776N6FoYp4=/1280x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-advancelocal.s3.amazonaws.com/public/CMG72VAGUFGLBHCCAK64MG2FAI.jpg


[07-Nov-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Disrupt hella now


[07-Nov-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically if i;m readign this right, the game wont have an audience after the first round?


[07-Nov-19 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
r/olltide


[07-Nov-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When Trump gets wildly jeered at every event he shows up at that he doesn't have control over.


[07-Nov-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If you didnt want booing, why did you invite trump to begin with?


[07-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/535580879385395213/641789263880519681/HST8lEz.png

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[07-Nov-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burn it down


[07-Nov-19 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cleanse it with fire


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Woman-gets-arrest-warrant-for-turning-in-library-books-2-years-late-564343681.html

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https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Woman-gets-arrest-warrant-for-turning-in-library-books-2-years-late-564343681.html
Woman gets arrest warrant for turning in library books 2 years late
It’s one thing to find out you owe a library fine for a book you forgot to return, but one woman in Charlotte just found out there’s a warrant for her arrest over some overdue books.
https://media.graytvinc.com/images/BOOKSSS.jpg


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone should make a realistic American version of FiM


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where like, Dash gets sent to jail for 30 years for the Tank ep


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Twilight gets jailtime over the overdue book


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie no she doesn't


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And AJ's parents were shot by zebras who were then massacred by Shining Armor


[07-Nov-19 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
she's a bourgie


[07-Nov-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
what has personal conenction to the God-Queen of the country


[07-Nov-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh right, she gets 30 hours of community service after applying the conversion


[07-Nov-19 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
Moondancer, on the other hand...


[07-Nov-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Twi has to giv a speech to schoolchildren


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moondancer: Raped to death by Fleur.


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Covered up with Fancy Pants' money.


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] ononim#8141
...why Fleur?


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because nobody would suspect her


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's a rich floosie wife


[07-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the evidence pointed to Melania assisting Epstein with suicide, would you believe it?


[07-Nov-19 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
Yes


[07-Nov-19 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
She's rich


[07-Nov-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but you're not a police officer.


[07-Nov-19 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[07-Nov-19 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
police officer wouldn't believe ANYONE rich actually done the did


[07-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but there's an extra layer of sexism.


[07-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And invisibility.


[07-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay then https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2019/10/16/queens-da-race-republican-candidate-joe-murray-registered-democrat

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https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2019/10/16/queens-da-race-republican-candidate-joe-murray-registered-democrat
A Registered Democrat is the Republican Running for Queens DA
NY1 will host a debate between the candidates on October 23.


[07-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blue Dog Democrat running as a Republican.


[07-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could be an anomaly, but very bad news for the GOP.


[07-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/us/cvs-puerto-rico-id-immigration.html

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By Karen Zraick
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/us/cvs-puerto-rico-id-immigration.html
He Wanted Cold Medicine, but CVS Rejected His Puerto Rican ID
CVS has apologized after a college student in Indiana was unable to buy cold medicine because employees would not accept his identification.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/11/04/multimedia/04xp-cvs2/04xp-cvs2-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[07-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
isolated incident my fukking ass


[07-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't state it's your store policy to reject such ID on the phone, after also having rejected a damn passport, because you made a mistake


[07-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Management had to hav specifically told employees what the deal is.


[07-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And said "deal" was probably "fukk 'em, it's not a state, so who cares if it's part of the US?"


[07-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/05/hong-kong-protest-themed-cake-disqualified-from-uk-baking-contest

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/05/hong-kong-protest-themed-cake-disqualified-from-uk-baking-contest
Flour power: Hong Kong protest-themed cake disqualified from UK ba...
Creator claims cake was victim of political censorship after attendees at Cake International show threatened to damage it
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[07-Nov-19 01:26 AM] ononim#8141
Plot twist, they disqulalified it for inaccuracy: nobody wears V mask nowadays, it's Joker make up now, get on with times people, jeez


[07-Nov-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk NY https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-homeless-initiative-sends-people-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/

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https://nypost.com/2019/10/26/nyc-homeless-initiative-sends-people-across-us-without-telling-receiving-cities/
NYC secretly exports homeless to Hawaii and other states without t...
New York City generously shares its homeless crisis with every corner of America. From the tropical shores of Honolulu and Puerto Rico, to the badlands of Utah and backwaters of Louisiana, the Big …
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/homeless-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[07-Nov-19 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[07-Nov-19 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
if I was being homeless in US


[07-Nov-19 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
and lived in NYC


[07-Nov-19 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
I would probably take Hawaii


[07-Nov-19 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
at least I wouldn't risk freezing to death


[07-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://nypost.com/2019/11/06/donald-trump-jr-tweets-possible-identity-of-white-house-whistleblower/

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https://nypost.com/2019/11/06/donald-trump-jr-tweets-possible-identity-of-white-house-whistleblower/
Donald Trump Jr. tweets possible identity of White House whistleblower
President Trump’s son on Wednesday tweeted out the purported name of the anonymous whistleblower who filed the complaint alleging the White House attempted to strong-arm the Ukrainian government in…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/don-jr.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[07-Nov-19 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 he's wrong


[07-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before, right or wrong here is irrelevant


[07-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is intimidation of future witnesses.


[07-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get the guy lynched so that everyone knows not to challenge the establishment.


[07-Nov-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
well


[07-Nov-19 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
if we have _seven more_ whistleblowers


[07-Nov-19 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://spectator.us/seven-whistleblowers-jared-kushner-bin-salman/

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‘Seven whistleblowers’ | Spectator USA
A source tells Cockburn that House Democrats trying to impeach Donald Trump have no less than seven intelligence whistleblowers
https://spectator.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/GettyImages-1157815342.jpg


[07-Nov-19 01:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Dominos.


[07-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP won't be happy until he's shot on live TV.


[07-Nov-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP would say that shooting is too liberal a punishment for treason against the crown.


[07-Nov-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd ask for drawing and quartering.


[07-Nov-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whistle blower is like hydra, the more you try to cut it down, the more whistles they blow


[07-Nov-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drawing and quartering one whistle blower, just creates 4 more whistle blowers


[07-Nov-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Good lunch -- thanks. Heard from White House — assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / 'get to the bottom of what happened' in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow -kurt."- Volker to Andrey Yermak


[07-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/469022-trump-lawyers-say-calls-to-former-apprentice-contestant-do-not

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Trump lawyers say calls to former 'Apprentice' contestant do not p...
President Trump’s lawyer said Monday that his client’s cellphone records, which show a call to a former “Apprentice” contestant on the day he allegedly assaulted her, don’t corroborate her claims.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/zervossummer_getty.jpg


[07-Nov-19 01:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
How many are just joining in on the whistle blowing this late in the issue to avoid being caught in the blame? I wonder if some of them are the ones that helped try and hide it.


[07-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sondland definitely tried to hide it


[07-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Public hearings next week


[07-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
he realized with later testimony that he was about to get utterly screwed if he didn't turn around and tell the truth


[07-Nov-19 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
"Not like that" https://i.imgur.com/vqu40Ym.jpg

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No, not like that!
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[07-Nov-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-wanted-bill-barr-to-hold-a-news-conference-saying-he-wasnt-a-crook-but-the-ag-said-no/

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Trump wanted Bill Barr to hold a news conference saying he wasn’...
Not even Attorney General Bill Barr would go along with President Donald Trump’s plan to tell the nation he had been vindicated of seeking foreign election interference from Ukraine according to a bombshell new report in The Washington Post. “President Trump wanted Attorn...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Donald_Trump_and_William_Barr.jpg


[07-Nov-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm holding this press conference to say we investigated ourselves and we found nothing wrong"


[07-Nov-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Barr refused to


[07-Nov-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how the fuck would that press conference even fucking go?


[07-Nov-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"DoJ looked at it, it's fine, nothing illegal"


[07-Nov-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"No questions. 5 second news conference over!"


[07-Nov-19 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1190414749353283590?s=21

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The Hill (@thehill)
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1190414749353283590?s=21
Faith leaders pray for Trump at the White House, photo goes viral https://t.co/c0LEbUyTww
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1110
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Twitter


[07-Nov-19 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too much boomer energy in one picture


[07-Nov-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
a room full of assholes


[07-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like there might be warnings in the bible about the antichrist doing things like this


[07-Nov-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
feels like "ok boomer" became a meme overnight


[07-Nov-19 03:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
That looks like it's some anti-Christian religious ceremony.


[07-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer has been a meme for years, it's just reached a tipping point that the younger generations are no longer willing to treat people who don't actually give a shit about them like they're worth considering anymore


[07-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mostly it's because of the deluge of articles about "millennials are killing the diamond ring industry" and other nonsense


[07-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
like one of the things I always got the feeling from when I argued with my mom is that she didn't actually care about anything she was actually arguing about, she only cared about "socialism bad" and how bad things would happen if "socialism" happened


[07-Nov-19 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
well your mom is batshit


[07-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Milennials are killing the custom built marble kitchen counter industry"


[07-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that it's the same feeling I get from pretty much everyone who argues against stuff like global warming


[07-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
they don't actually care about the point, they just don't want things to happen


[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
same with healthcare, education, etc


[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know if I posted this here, but if I did I want to repost this: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=414145799278751

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Marxista-Leninista
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=414145799278751
El Pueblo Unido
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[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"socialism" was "them" for 50 years


[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, you posted that already


[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was the clear and easy "other"


[07-Nov-19 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Chileans occupying Salvador assembled their own orchestra to perform El Pueblo Unido in honor of fallen comrades.


[07-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
and then I posted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_9FEx7ymg

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THANASiTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_9FEx7ymg
Inti Illimani - El Pueblo Unido
The people united will never be defeated, The people united will never be defeated... Arise, sing We are going to win. Flags of unity are now advancing. And ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7F_9FEx7ymg/hqdefault.jpg


[07-Nov-19 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's the original


[07-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
but anyways, the arguments always convey a sort of subtle "I don't actually care about this" vibe to me


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
because they don't


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
whether it's directly from my mom, from a conservative talking head online, or in typed words


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing you can say will convince them


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah... these people are gonna die soon and there's just no way to convince them as of now. There's no point bothering to argue with them by now


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
they're arguing for the spectacle


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
it all sounds the same to me, even though it's often presented in different ways


[07-Nov-19 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
this is from the alt-right playbook


[07-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you discuss something, you give their position the legitimacy of meriting discussion


[07-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't, you're censoring them, bullying


[07-Nov-19 03:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine politics broken down into symbols and signifiers.


[07-Nov-19 03:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
This by post-Guy Debord Society gang


[07-Nov-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPgDQkmqqM

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Innuendo Studios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPgDQkmqqM
The Alt-Right Playbook: Control the Conversation
patreon: http://patreon.com/InnuendoStudios tumblr: http://innuendostudios.tumblr.com twitter: https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios transcript: http://innuend...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CaPgDQkmqqM/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Nov-19 03:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
A part of me believes this can be sustained only in a binary conversation where someone says "X bad/good" and the other can say "no". The conversation can be derailed by tossing in a third option and disabling the machine.


[07-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
``` "millennials are killing the diamond ring industry"```


[07-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
you mean don't buy the stupidly overpriced bubbled shit that only became relevant in 20th century and it's world-wide marketing campaigns?


[07-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine that.


[07-Nov-19 03:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
As current potential reference someone in the thread is on about how Dems bad because they had more time with Epstein, and I chimed in behind Smiling that it doesn't matter who spent more time with Epstein because they're all fucked, burn them all and expropriate all their resources.


[07-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
zoomers are the most knowledgeable generation ever


[07-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
part of that includes having the knowledge to not by stupid meaningless bullshit when there's no reason to


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
```"socialism" was "them" for 50 years```


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
Teaspoon's right tho


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
ignorance or not, this was literally how many of older folk were brought up.


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
with immense resources pumped into propaganda supporting this


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
habits are a bitch to break.


[07-Nov-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[07-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah let's all bankrupt ourselves by buying something that's worthless and will become even moreso when you divorce the person you buy it for in a year


[07-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I had an argument a few years ago with my high school government teacher (who was a boomer, mind you)


[07-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
he insisted that china was a communist nation


[07-Nov-19 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
and I had to tell him "in name only" a dozen times and he never got it


[07-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the connection between "china" and "communist" (and maybe CCP) is so deeply ingrained in his mind that he can't break the association


[07-Nov-19 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
they're state capitalist


[07-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
state capitalism looks similar to socialism, the idea that "government involved? it's socialism" is deeply ingrained for some reason


[07-Nov-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
because it often is


[07-Nov-19 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
but there's nothing wrong with socialism


[07-Nov-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Socialism would, imo, be mostly moneyless


[07-Nov-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or based on exchange systems not based on money


[07-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
it's any system where the workers own the means of production


[07-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they could do that directly like in a manufacturing cooperative


[07-Nov-19 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
or indirectly through the government


[07-Nov-19 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, that's still a vague definition


[07-Nov-19 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow your mom irl https://youtu.be/RpkQEq75y18

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[07-Nov-19 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEMdeXmn9l4CNqzztnB-YrkMqFQgEKg0IACoGCAow9YACMKFMMLOpHg?hl=en-CA&gl=CA&ceid=CA%3Aen

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China Bans Kids From Playing Games After 10pm, Caps Microtransacti...
A new Chinese law that went into place on Tuesday has placed extreme limits on the screen times of the nation’s youth, with everyone under the age of 18 now restricted from playing video games for longer than 90 minutes a day, or between the hours of 10pm-8am. As the New Yo...
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[07-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. I bet they calculated it saps society's production output.


[07-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/469263-most-democrats-say-they-would-vote-for-a-democratic-socialist

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Most Democrats say they would vote for a democratic socialist
Most Democrats would back a democratic socialist for public office, according to a Hill-HarrisX poll released on Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_090119gn3_lead.jpg


[07-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
bring it home, bernie boy


[07-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dem_socialist.png

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[07-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
those independent number don't seem right


[07-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's a few polls showing bernie beating out trump when trump beats out both biden and warren, and the independents are given credit for that


[07-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
granted, they're state polls and not nation polls


[07-Nov-19 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 If we want to go by the Marxist definition then socialism is the lower stage of Communism or the transition phase into lower stage communism where a society's political and material conditions are oriented towards the next phase of production. But then we get abstract and it's almost midnight and I'm on a phone and don't want to bother


[07-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
~~EVERYONE~~


[07-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
everypony


[07-Nov-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some tomfoolery http://ncase.me/ballot/sandbox?m=%7B%22s%22%3A%22IRV%22%2C%22v%22%3A%5B%5B157%2C124%5D%2C%5B128%2C190%5D%2C%5B225%2C52%5D%5D%2C%22c%22%3A%5B%5B207%2C74%5D%2C%5B244%2C26%5D%2C%5B174%2C143%5D%2C%5B122%2C186%5D%5D%2C%22d%22%3A%22Pentagon%20%3D%20Bernie%5CnHexagon%20%3D%20Warren%5CnSquare%20%3D%20Biden%5CnTriangle%20%3D%20Trump%5CnNote%20how%20IRV%20makes%20Biden%20(!)%20win%2C%20but%20FPTP%20Bernie%2C%20and%20all%20sane%20voting%20systems%20Warren.%22%7D

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[07-Nov-19 10:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/bill-taylor-greenland-trump-national-security-council/index.html

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Bill Taylor: Greenland purchase proposal 'took up a lot of energy'
As the top US diplomat in Ukraine was working to release frozen security assistance to Kiev, he discovered the focus back in Washington was elsewhere: President Donald Trump's interest in buying Greenland.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190419152043-01-greenland-climate-change-super-tease.jpg


[07-Nov-19 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's still on this?


[07-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not afaik


[07-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it seems it was far more serious than just "Trump making a joke"


[07-Nov-19 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can beleive Trump is still obsessed with buying greenland


[07-Nov-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He doesn;t take being told no with any form of dignity


[07-Nov-19 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldn't be surprised if he adds "We'll take greenland" to his campaign speech


[07-Nov-19 01:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so why is the wistleblower going back on what he said ?


[07-Nov-19 01:30 PM] RYDE#8862
Is that Molly from Pokemon 3?


[07-Nov-19 01:30 PM] RYDE#8862
Your icon I meant.


[07-Nov-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which whistle blower?


[07-Nov-19 01:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What does Greenland keep so desired for Mr. T?


[07-Nov-19 01:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I've read some illuminati level stuff, that Greenland has apocalypse-proof databank and world's seed store.


[07-Nov-19 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
probably mineable crap.


[07-Nov-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
illuminati stuff doesn't need formal ownership I'd think


[07-Nov-19 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
less attention.


[07-Nov-19 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mining


[07-Nov-19 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a massive as shit landmass, just under a lot of ice


[07-Nov-19 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good news, the ice is melting!


[07-Nov-19 03:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Global Warming contributes to the melting of ice, which in turn makes it easier to gain access to Greenland's apparent mineable resources


[07-Nov-19 03:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[07-Nov-19 03:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Netherlands will then become 70% sea, 30% weed

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[07-Nov-19 06:05 PM] illumnious#7938

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[07-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/No4V101

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Federal Judge Considering Suicide
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[07-Nov-19 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*A few weeks later...*
"BREAKING NEWS: Judge involved in Epstein case found dead in car crash"


[07-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-Nov-19 07:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/11/06/776502362/scrubbing-your-house-of-bacteria-could-clear-the-way-for-fungus

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Scrubbing Your House Of Bacteria Could Clear The Way For Fungus
A new study in Brazil finds that urban apartments have more diverse fungi — some healthy, some potentially not — than villages in the Amazon rainforest.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/11/05/malassezia-1_wide-595b4009913cc3548b37e49d390964386119e831.jpg?s=1400


[07-Nov-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't political, post it in #general-discussion


[07-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/469452-ukraine-was-making-plans-to-give-in-to-trumps-demand-report

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Ukraine was making plans to give in to Trump's Biden request: report
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was reportedly preparing to announce the investigation requested by President Trump into former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter in order to secure military aid withheld by the Trump administration until
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_trumpdonald_09252019getty.jpg


[07-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only news of the aid being delayed going public stopped it


[07-Nov-19 07:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2019/11/06/2-million-pounds-chicken-recalled/2512022001/

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Chicken recall: More than 2 million pounds recalled, may be contam...
Simmons Prepared Foods, Inc., based in Arkansas, is recalling more than 2 million pounds of its ready-to-cook chicken products, the USDA announced.
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[07-Nov-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Not politics again


[07-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Florida is not gonna vote red in 2020


[07-Nov-19 08:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/us/james-stern-neo-nazi-group-leader-dies/index.html

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A black activist took over a neo-Nazi group with plans to destroy ...
James Stern, the California pastor and activist who took over one of the country's largest neo-Nazi groups with plans to destroy it, died before accomplishing his goal, his attorney said.
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[07-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie it's just a fun thing


[07-Nov-19 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/SB851sR.jpg

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Murdered while grandstanding
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[07-Nov-19 09:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://qz.com/1743901/why-japanese-companies-ban-women-from-wearing-glasses/

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“It gives a cold impression”: Why Japanese companies ban femal...
Japanese women are voicing their anger on social media at the practice of prohibiting women from wearing glasses, which remains rife in companies.
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[07-Nov-19 09:20 PM] ononim#8141
```The hashtag “glasses are forbidden” (#メガネ禁止) has been trending on social media in Japan this week following the airing of a program on the Nippon TV network exploring how companies in different sectors do not allow female employees to wear glasses on the job. The program followed a report published late last month by Business Insider Japan (link in Japanese) on the same issue.

The program listed a number of reasons that employers gave for not wanting women to wear glasses while at work. Domestic airlines said it was for safety reasons, companies in the beauty industry said it was difficult to see the employee’s make-up properly behind glasses, while major retail chains said female shop assistants give off a “cold impression” if they wear glasses. Traditional Japanese restaurants said that glasses simply do not go well with traditional Japanese dress.

Some likened the ban (link in Japanese) on glasses for women in the workplace to similarly strict rules that exist across Japanese schools—such as forcing students with lighter hair shades to dye their hair black—widely referred to as “black school rules,” with the word “black” in Japan often used to describe a person or organization that is overly harsh or unscrupulous. As in the workplace, many schools target the way females should act and dress, for example setting out strict guidelines on hair length, underwear color, and skirt length. Some forbid female students from wearing stockings under their skirts in the winter.```


[07-Nov-19 09:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/shariaprelaw/status/1187969215661268992

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[07-Nov-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7b8d0f5ce9cb4cadad948c2c414afd57

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Judge fines Trump $2 million for misusing charity foundation
NEW YORK (AP) — A judge Thursday ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to an array of charities as a fine for misusing his own charitable foundation to further his political and...
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[07-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/disney-world-guest-arrested-groping-princess

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Disney World princess left 'shaking and crying' after guest allege...
A Disney World guest was arrested and charged with battery.
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[07-Nov-19 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oq0u2i4iHc

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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 5: The Politics of Traffic Eng...
In this episode we critically examine the whole field of traffic engineering, and how efforts to make streets and highways safer and more functional have ach...
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[07-Nov-19 10:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Urban engineering politics time


[07-Nov-19 10:31 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  I found out this sub exist and it reminded me of your posts at times https://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/

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For those who did everything our parents told us to do... now what...
For those who did everything our parents told us to do... now what?
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[07-Nov-19 11:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/03/investing/saudi-aramco-ipo/index.html

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Saudi Arabia announces IPO of world's most profitable company
Saudi Arabia is moving forward with an initial public offering of its huge state oil producer that could shatter records and give investors the chance to own a piece of the world's most profitable company.
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[07-Nov-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/migrants-mental-health-court.html

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U.S. Must Provide Mental Health Services to Families Separated at ...
Under a “state-created danger” legal doctrine, a judge ordered the government to provide counseling and other services to compensate for trauma.
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[07-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50338231

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Judge orders Trump to pay $2m for charity misuse
The Trump Foundation used cash raised for veterans to fund his campaign, a New York judge rules.
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[08-Nov-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Guess what he's not gonna do


[08-Nov-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Pay


[08-Nov-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-national-golf-course-new-jersey-toxic-chemicals-tap-water-1470189

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Tap water at Trump National Golf Course contaminated with toxic "f...
The Environmental Working Group shows that Trump's golf course is one of over 500 cases of New Jersey water sources containing "forever chemicals."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1543318/trump-bedminister.jpg


[08-Nov-19 12:03 AM] illumnious#7938
Charity? What about his fucking taxes?


[08-Nov-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-ukraine-twitter-william-barr-zelensky-transcript-justice-department-a9190186.html

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Trump lashes out over report attorney general refused to publicly ...
President lashes out at ‘fake news’ after claims legal chief declined to publicly clear him
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[08-Nov-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
F A K E  N E W S


[08-Nov-19 12:03 AM] illumnious#7938
So fake


[08-Nov-19 12:03 AM] illumnious#7938
:Rumpclown:


[08-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1192573749897420801?s=19

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NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics)
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NEW: Billionaire businessman and former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg is preparing to file for a 2020 Democratic presidential primary in order to keep his options open for possible campaign for president, a top Bloomberg adviser and a source close to Bloomberg tell @NBCNews.
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[08-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
http://www.cnn.com/2019/11/07/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-fareed-zakaria-ukraine-aid/index.html

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CNN host was set to interview Ukrainian President until scandal to...
CNN host Fareed Zakaria said on Thursday that he had been set to interview Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky before news about the Ukrainian's call with President Donald Trump broke.
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[08-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
||https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dsylqp/picture_of_a_political_prisoner_in_one_of_chinas/ ||

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Picture of a political prisoner in one of China's internment camps...
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[08-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
warning: holocaust level shit going on in china right now


[08-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2019/11/06/massive-white-supremacist-message-board-leak-how-to-access-and-interpret-the-data/

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Bellingcat Investigation Team
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2019/11/06/massive-white-supremacist-message-board-leak-how-to-access-and-interpret-the-data/
Massive White Supremacist Message Board Leak: How to Access and In...
Today, the entire SQL database from Iron March, a now-defunct neo-Nazi / white supremacist message board, was posted onto the Internet Archive by the user “antifa-data“. You can access this data dump on the Internet Archive, and via a torrent file found here, or through t...
https://017qndpynh-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ironmarch.jpg


[08-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
emails, IP, and PMs from a popular nazi forum


[08-Nov-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
when normally someone does that to someone else, it's doxing, harassment and against all kinds of laws. But here, it's supposedly neo-nazis with a cool, scary name, so it's okay.


[08-Nov-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
loving it


[08-Nov-19 01:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1192594646691729408?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1192594646691729408?s=21
STATEMENT FROM PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
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Twitter


[08-Nov-19 01:11 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh my god


[08-Nov-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think it's okay


[08-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
he's honest about it. He IS the only person he knows.


[08-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
ignorance is bliss, after all.


[08-Nov-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doxxing nazis is like killing terrorists. It may help in some situations but in many cases it's nothing more than vengeance. We as a society need to move beyond vengeance.

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[08-Nov-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[08-Nov-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
here's that article from yesterday
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-told-kentuckys-voters-to-make-the-election-about-him-they-did-and-hes-fucked

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-told-kentuckys-voters-to-make-the-election-about-him-they-did-and-hes-fucked
Trump Told Kentucky’s Voters to Make the Election About Him. The...
Trump proved this week that big rallies, big talk, and bad campaigns are a recipe for electoral disaster, and alienated suburban voters are a dagger in the heart of the GOP.
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[08-Nov-19 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
my university has access for students for dozens of publications when you're on the network


[08-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469535-gop-senator-trump-made-errors-of-judgement-but-not-impeachable

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469535-gop-senator-trump-made-errors-of-judgement-but-not-impeachable
GOP senator: Trump made 'errors of judgement' but they are not imp...
Republican Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.) said recent revelations about Ukraine show that President Trump has made "errors of judgment" but he does not believe the president's conduct has been impeachable.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/toomeypat_062519gn_lead.jpg


[08-Nov-19 01:19 AM] illumnious#7938
more booing occurs @byte[]


[08-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
I found out why my mom really doesn't want a popular vote for the president: she doesn't want to "go with the flow"


[08-Nov-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah suck my dick toomey


[08-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic, "yes my client is guilty, but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing"


[08-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your mom wants fascism, dude.


[08-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A few Senate GOP have basically said they're keeping an open mind


[08-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't like the idea that the people could decide wrongly.


[08-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think once public hearings happen and impeachment support goes up to say, 60%


[08-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
you'll get some more support from the Senate GOP


[08-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I do think you'll see it tick up that high by the end of the year


[08-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
I've questioned her in the past about why she didn't want a popular vote for the presidency, she'd go into some nebulous "state's rights" argument, but I questioned why she didn't want a popular vote when she complained about how the california state primary is entirely unseparated by party affiliation, and her kneejerk response was "I just don't want to go with the flow"


[08-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
even though it would actually give her vote more power because california always votes democrat


[08-Nov-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
that's fascism


[08-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie btw since yesterday I've listened to several very different Joker reviews. Deliberately didn't watch the movie itself, as I expected it to be only truly relevant in US and turned out to be right. I was,  however, apparently wrong on what it actually was. Not a political commentary as I expected initially. Not a _societal_ commentary as I thought after our discussion either.


[08-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Mikey#7286
maybe it's just a good movie with good acting,writing, and a good origin story for the joker?


[08-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's an expertly crafted outrage machine. SImply monetised outrage, very well done and achiving it's goal of profit. Somewhat like what people accuse J. Peterson do, it doesn't really _say_ anything concrete. It hijacks images instead of buzzwords, mixes them up, and serves it up for people as 'art'


[08-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[08-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
@Mikey it's not actually Joker though, isn't it. It's not whatever the hell eldrich abomination Arkham Joker is. It's not a grim anarchist from Dark Knight. It's not even various oldish representations. It's a nobody. And he stays a nobody at the end.


[08-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
that sounds like a particularly shallow way to describe it


[08-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[08-Nov-19 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
the entire movie events are coin toss to be entirely in his mind.


[08-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
it's literally an origin story


[08-Nov-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
it hijacks the image of 'top villain forever' and slaps it onto the movie along with everything else.


[08-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare anyone do a different Joker than Heath Ledger's I guess.


[08-Nov-19 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://babylonbee.com/news/mortal-kombat-introduces-brutal-new-fatality-where-your-character-just-states-a-slightly-different-opinion

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https://babylonbee.com/news/mortal-kombat-introduces-brutal-new-fatality-where-your-character-just-states-a-slightly-different-opinion
'Mortal Kombat' Introduces Brutal New Fatality Where Your Characte...
U.S.—In a surprise update to Mortal Kombat 11 released to players on Monday, NetherRealm and Warner Bros. Interactive have introduced a brutal new fatality where your character just states an opposing viewpoint, and the opponent dies instantly.Every character can reporte...
https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-4116-3.jpg


[08-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
New fatality: The other guy makes you say "Jeffrey Epstein had no help in dying" and you just fall over bleeding.


[08-Nov-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
suicide by words


[08-Nov-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-09/bankruptcy-fears-sprint-warns-not-sustainable-path-subscribers-collapse

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-09/bankruptcy-fears-sprint-warns-not-sustainable-path-subscribers-collapse
Bankruptcy Fears: Sprint Warns 'Not On Sustainable Path,' As Subsc...
"If Sprint is left on their own, they can sell spectrum. But that would be tantamount to burning the furniture to keep the house warm..."
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/max_650x650/public/2019-05/sprint%20guy%20cover.jpg?itok=sohkNiPF


[08-Nov-19 02:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Looks like they are putting their best members up for election this year.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-video-keir-starmer-cut-general-election-piers-morgan-twitter-a9186531.html
https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1191992764264853504?s=20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50302573
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50341292?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50332418?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c207p54md43t/conservative-party&link_location=live-reporting-story

Fake Videos, Smarter than fire victims, Rape case sabotages and Rape victim blamers. 
Very fine people.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-video-keir-starmer-cut-general-election-piers-morgan-twitter-a9186531.html
Tories post manipulated video suggesting Labour’s Brexit ministe...
Clip doctored to give false impression that Keir Starmer was lost for words over Labour’s Brexit policy
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/11/05/17/screenshot-2019-11-05-at-16.53.29.png

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BBC Breakfast (@BBCBreakfast)
https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1191992764264853504?s=20
@JamesCleverly @Keir_Starmer Doctored or edited?
@louiseminchin discusses the altered video of Labour's @Keir_Starmer that was posted on the Conservative Party twitter feed, with Party Chairman @JamesCleverly on #BBCBreakfast ⬇️ https://t.co/KccMgoziBM
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Twitter

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50302573
Rees-Mogg Grenfell comments 'insulting'
Jacob Rees-Mogg said it would be "common sense" to ignore fire brigade advice to stay in a burning building.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/4474/production/_109542571_p07t1vjg.jpg

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50341292?intlink_from_url=&link_location=live-reporting-story
Conrad quits as Tory candidate over rape comments
Nick Conrad will not contest the Broadland seat after a row over comments he made about rape in 2014.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1769F/production/_109530959_3b2074c5-7800-405e-8de5-3035faf07bc1.jpg

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50332418?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c207p54md43t/conservative-party&link_location=live-reporting-story
Timeline: Alun Cairns' resignation
A chronology of the key events that led up to the Welsh secretary resigning from the cabinet.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/DC38/production/_109567365_aluncairns_cityhall2017.jpg


[08-Nov-19 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/ZAGMf0luGGQ

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Guardian News
https://youtu.be/ZAGMf0luGGQ
Jacob Rees-Mogg is cleverer than Grenfell Tower residents, Tory MP...
Tory MP Andrew Bridgen appeared to suggest Jacob Rees-Mogg was cleverer than those who died in the Grenfell Tower fire during an exchange with BBC Radio 4's ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZAGMf0luGGQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Nov-19 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
saying that in official capacity, not ideal. But I kind of share the sentiment :/


[08-Nov-19 03:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
People died and badly burned in the stairway trying to leave.


[08-Nov-19 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The building was not built up to code and lacked sprinklers. They also used cladding that was not meant for high building construction which made the building into a towering inferno. If the building was built up to code then only 1 to 4 apartments should have been burned. Since the cladding was flammable it spread to every apartment.


[08-Nov-19 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the cynical conclusion would be, the guy making the comment knew how such buildings are built and that the claims of 'fire containment' are bull.


[08-Nov-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
he simply didn't filter his words properly at the time.


[08-Nov-19 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50241254

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50241254
Quebec bars French citizen on language grounds
The province said biology graduate Emilie Dubois failed to demonstrate proficiency in French.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/F4D4/production/_109467626_0xxjgspw-1.jpg

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[08-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
TAINTED etc.


[08-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
muh courriel


[08-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Quebec's bullshit is ultimately just racism thru and thru


[08-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
muh fin de la semaine


[08-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't just demand you be *proficient* in French, they want you to never ever use any other language.


[08-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the only reason they aren't independent is how racist they were/are to First Nations


[08-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only that


[08-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
so why not simply give them independance, and then crush them with sanctions if they're so obnoxious?


[08-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the US was vehemently against people putting "u" in things or saying "queue"


[08-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Maritimes.


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
what value do they bring for Canada?


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"culture"


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are a huge economic area in the middle of the country


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a problem then.


[08-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which all as one demands everything else bends to it.


[08-Nov-19 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
inverse HK in a sense.


[08-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50241251

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50241251
Quebec to introduce 'values test' for immigrants
An example question would be: "In Quebec, men and women have the same rights, true or false?"
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/B36F/production/_109453954_gettyimages-1044383858.jpg


[08-Nov-19 03:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
why not give quebec to the united states. let them be their problem instead of canada's


[08-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That makes 0 sense from any angle.


[08-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's because i was trying to be funny


[08-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
boo


[08-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
get better jokes


[08-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got one for you


[08-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Epstein killed himself


[08-Nov-19 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make the mid-west Francophone again


[08-Nov-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
hahaha el em ay oh ecks dee


[08-Nov-19 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
As Governor of Michigan I promise to make the official state language French


[08-Nov-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
so funny


[08-Nov-19 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
drench the french wench


[08-Nov-19 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
If we haven't did that with English already. Last I checked they were moving to pass a bill officializing English as the language of politics. Critics just sort of called it redundant.


[08-Nov-19 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I promise to be brave and unique.


[08-Nov-19 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
We're gonna bring Acadia back!


[08-Nov-19 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely people them, all around.


[08-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://earthsky.org/space/near-earth-asteroid-close-pass-oct-2019-c0ppev1

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Deborah Byrd
https://earthsky.org/space/near-earth-asteroid-close-pass-oct-2019-c0ppev1
Small asteroid paid a heavy price for almost striking Earth Thursd...
Earth's gravity bent the trajectory of asteroid C0PPEV1 - also known as 2019 UN13 - as it swept only 3,852 miles (6,200 km) above Africa. As a result, its farthest point from the sun has now shifted out to the asteroid belt between Jupiter and Mars.
https://en.es-static.us/upl/2016/02/asteroid-earth-sq-e1572621856332.jpg


[08-Nov-19 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck it for daring tho, next time don't flinch bitch


[08-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, no way god would let hell be destroyed so we would be free from our suffering, stupid rock


[08-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/internal-noaa-emails-detail-blowback-trump-hurricane-claims-has-really-n1078326

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/internal-noaa-emails-detail-blowback-trump-hurricane-claims-has-really-n1078326
Internal NOAA emails detail blowback to Trump hurricane claims: 'T...
"These are getting very personal," a top NOAA official said of an angry email he received.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_36/2996586/190904-donald-trump-dorian-map-cs-217p_0_48755fd80d6bad4e02d639c7a2aacc85.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So forecasters didn't even know about Trump saying stuff, were just trying to reassure Alabama residents


[08-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
then started getting hammered for contradicting him.


[08-Nov-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
> Forecasters in Bexar County, Texas sent the Birmingham officials a $50 Pizza Hut gift card following the NOAA statement disavowing their tweet.


[08-Nov-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[08-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-06/china-is-breeding-giant-pigs-the-size-of-polar-bears


[08-Nov-19 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/live-blog/trump-impeachment-inquiry-live-updates-latest-news-n1065706/ncrd1077251

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/live-blog/trump-impeachment-inquiry-live-updates-latest-news-n1065706/ncrd1077251
Donald Trump Jr. tweets name of person he says is the whistleblower
NBC News is not reporting the name of the whistleblower as long as that person wishes to remain anonymous, due to security and safety concerns, and will not publish the names of anyone purportedly identified by outside parties as the whistleblower.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_44/3076781/191030-impeachment-live-blog-2x1-cs-335p_c2cf740c0563051e4e41be3d82c2eabc.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Nov-19 04:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-church-of-tax-exempt-status-gay-marriage

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-church-of-tax-exempt-status-gay-marriage
Beto threatens tax-exempt status of churches if they don't support...
2020 Democratic presidential hopeful Beto O'Rourke says he'd strip churches of tax-exempt status if they don't support same-sex marriage.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/10/11/694940094001_6094014045001_6094015180001-vs.jpg


[08-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Churches being tax exempt for any reason at all is retarded


[08-Nov-19 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're businesses


[08-Nov-19 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You go in, a man tells you a nice story to make you feel better about yourself, you donate to keep him doing it


[08-Nov-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind we're the same country where Minecraft servers hav a "donation shop" where you "donate" an amount and get in-game rewards as a result and then they claim on taxes the money was a gift.


[08-Nov-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what now?


[08-Nov-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, $100 towards the cause of a good Minecraft server so I can fly on it etc. etc.


[08-Nov-19 04:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/no-one-showed-hong-kongs-070141030.html

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/no-one-showed-hong-kongs-070141030.html
"No one showed up!" Hong Kong's protests face acid test
Ronald sacrificed his lunchtime to join the protest in a Hong Kong park.  Confused, shocked and more than a little sad as he gazed unbelieving around the empty park with a grand total of exactly one protester — him — the office intern drew this conclusion: Hong Kong's est...
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/F80lKTRbbiI9oJJmVJE9Rw--~B/aD0zNjQ4O3c9NTQ3MjtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https:/media.zenfs.com/en/ap.org/95450558f1505356efe9d674655fd3fa


[08-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also where the President himself ran a charitable organization whose sole goal was to, without even having a license, acquired money from people staying at his hotels and then funnel it to him without it going thru taxes.


[08-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now he's paying only 2 million dollars


[08-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
when it's likely that there's several hundred million involved.


[08-Nov-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't capitalism with gigantic carveouts for taxes based on whatever bullshit sounds vaguely moral at the time grand?


[08-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, most private servers for games worldwide who have payed crap, position it as a 'donation'. It's never a problem unless they get too huge, which they really never do.


[08-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking Sessions is running for senate again


[08-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
this minecraft server example though, This is one of my issues with 'rule of law'. No prises for guessing who the 'rule of law' will target first. if indeed there's a new law about this sort of thing.


[08-Nov-19 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking up Warren's ultramillionare calculator


[08-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/642210746519781376/bezos.PNG


[08-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
and how much is he paying now?


[08-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazon is paying $0.


[08-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely.


[08-Nov-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the grand price of: free as fuck


[08-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Discussed this specifically with people and they said "Wow way to take away any incentive to ever do well"


[08-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[08-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're doing really, really, really well if you make say, $200k+


[08-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That wouldn't even be touched here.


[08-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/30/lax-uber-lyft-rideshare-pickup-shuttle-traffic

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/30/lax-uber-lyft-rideshare-pickup-shuttle-traffic
'Carmageddon': LA airport apologizes after Uber policy causes gridlock
Ban on curbside rideshare pickups leads passengers to report wait times longer than the flights themselves
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[08-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/29/20939016/elon-musk-mrbeast-tree-donation-1-million-spacex-tesla-testifying-no-cash

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Elon Musk donates $1 million to plant trees after testifying that ...
Musk admitted his illiquidity as part of an ongoing defamation suit
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[08-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/these-fast-food-chains-get-an-f-for-antibiotics-use-in-beef-supply

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These fast food chains get an 'F' for antibiotics use in beef supply
These fast food chains fail to provide consumers with antibiotic-free meat, a new report suggests.
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[08-Nov-19 05:30 AM] Opponent#3498
Musk trolling people as usual. If he was the worst problem of the world, I'd be pretty content living there.


[08-Nov-19 06:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/mick-mulvaney-subpoena-impeachment-000324

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Impeachment investigators subpoena Mick Mulvaney
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[08-Nov-19 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[08-Nov-19 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The sentences about Tiananmen Event in my history textbook


[08-Nov-19 09:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Didn't mentioned the tank tho


[08-Nov-19 09:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh wait


[08-Nov-19 09:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It mentioned


[08-Nov-19 09:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Incited to head off the military vehicles"


[08-Nov-19 01:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-Nov-19 03:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/07/russia-shuts-down-arctic-indigenous-rights-group-a68088

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Russia Shuts Down Arctic Indigenous Rights Group - The Moscow Times
The group's director called the ruling “part of a trend to shut down organizations undesirable to the authorities.”
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[08-Nov-19 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Nov-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Nov-19 04:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame we already know the DNC will choose Biden even if the fucker drops dead tomorrow


[08-Nov-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/opinion/bill-gates-warren-tax.html

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By The Editorial Board
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/opinion/bill-gates-warren-tax.html
Opinion | The Billionaires Are Getting Nervous
Bill Gates and others warn that higher taxes would lead to lower growth. They have their facts backward.
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[08-Nov-19 04:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>NYT finally having a good opinion


[08-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think some of them simply think they can do a better job with their money than the government can


[08-Nov-19 04:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is going on, have the planets aligned?


[08-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is fair enough, the government is generally horrifically wasteful and inefficient, for multiple complex reasons


[08-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most just want a high score and a big number to lord over others, though


[08-Nov-19 04:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes, they know what to do with money better, yep. Just hoarding and not spending.


[08-Nov-19 04:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, Gates does do something with it other than just buy yachts


[08-Nov-19 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not enough, but still


[08-Nov-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
there are other things that need to be done


[08-Nov-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
for example a constitutional amendment to make schooling the responsibility of the federal government


[08-Nov-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
not the state government


[08-Nov-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
so that public schools can benefit from the vastly larger federal education funds and not have to be funded by local property taxes


[08-Nov-19 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
you know what would suck? If the changes go through, the rich ones do get taxed, the money do flow into budget, aaaaaaaaand literally nothing changes.


[08-Nov-19 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
most people have more faith in government than this but...


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
gonna press X to doubt on that one


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
we're in for a reformist decade


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
no that's fair. It's not 'what will happen'.


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
but so many people put so much faith in this.


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
assuming they don't manage to turn the US into a dictatorship, GOP can't fight the tide for much longer


[08-Nov-19 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(or for a massive salary bump to elected officials)


[08-Nov-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
they can't vote on their own salaries


[08-Nov-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
in general


[08-Nov-19 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh elected officials _should_ be paid a lot, and given longer but limited terms


[08-Nov-19 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remove the temptation for corruption


[08-Nov-19 04:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Worst case scenario is Congress somehow hijacks the tax revenues from the billionaires to toss it all into defense spending as opposed to social programs like what is often proposed.


[08-Nov-19 04:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
The side-effect of which will probably end up being people who work in companies that do defense contracting work end up getting hella paid since the CEOs aren't allowed to have that all or the value is kicked even more back at the shareholders for Lockheed, Boeing, and Raytheon.


[08-Nov-19 04:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or the CIA gets a few more airplanes for Air America


[08-Nov-19 04:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or what could happen, cash sink.


[08-Nov-19 04:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you see an Air America plane, then the CIA is in town and they're probably looking for your heroin or cocaine to take home

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[08-Nov-19 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I know of one state owned enterprise, which somehow got themselves into $60bn debt.


[08-Nov-19 04:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this is with constant state fund injections.


[08-Nov-19 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
money laundering operation


[08-Nov-19 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
It is Russia, so it makes sense.


[08-Nov-19 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some Oligarch has to dump all those billions into London mansions somehow


[08-Nov-19 04:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is not Russia,  somewhere else remotely.


[08-Nov-19 04:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Same thing


[08-Nov-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b95133c8d19d4028b8068325e99ddc89

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Mulvaney stands up Democrats in impeachment probe
WASHINGTON (AP) — Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney has stood up Democrats in their impeachment inquiry, skipping his 9 a.m. deposition as Democrats wrap up closed-door interviews...
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[08-Nov-19 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
big suprise.


[08-Nov-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he missed his appointment because he was too busy suckin dick


[08-Nov-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d1895ecdfc834a93b4d429f3026c0f34

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Marker calls 1898 violence a 'coup,' not a 'race riot'
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — The state of North Carolina is moving away from using the phrase "race riot" to describe the violent overthrow of the Wilmington government in 1898 and is instead using the...
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[08-Nov-19 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Nov-19 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610

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[08-Nov-19 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Nov-19 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-11-07/u-s-border-agents-wrote-fake-court-dates-on-paperwork-to-send-migrants-back-to-mexico

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U.S. border agents wrote fake court dates on paperwork to send mig...
Documents show CBP agents are writing false court hearing dates on paperwork to send migrants back to Mexico under the Migrant Protection Protocols program.
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[08-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/469629-mccarthy-adds-jordan-to-intel-panel-for-impeachment-probe

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McCarthy adds Jordan to Intel panel for impeachment probe
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will be placed on the Intelligence Committee for the duration of the impeachment inquiry.
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[08-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only time you will see "Jordan" and "intelligence" in the same sentence


[08-Nov-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://noticias.uol.com.br/meio-ambiente/ultimas-noticias/redacao/2019/11/01/governo-diz-que-peixe-foge-do-oleo-mas-biologos-pedem-cautela-no-consumo.htm

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Governo diz que 'peixe foge do óleo', mas biólogos pedem cautela...
Ao lado do presidente Jair Bolsonaro (PSL), o secretário de Aquicultura e Pesca, Jorge Seif Júnior, afirmou ontem que
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[08-Nov-19 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
> Brazilian government says ‘fish runs away from oil’, but biologists urge caution in consumption

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[08-Nov-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/pbs-going-gavel-to-gavel-with-trump-impeachment-hearings

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PBS Going Multiplatform Coverage of Trump Impeachment Hearings
Coverage of Watergate hearings made star of Ervin
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[08-Nov-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
re Gym Jordan


[08-Nov-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/ohio-state-wrestling-lawsuit-referee-jim-jordan-aware-doctor-sexual-misconduct-strauss.html

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New Lawsuit Says GOP Rep. Jim Jordan Was Aware of Ohio State Team ...
“Yeah, yeah, we know" was the coaching staff's response.
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[08-Nov-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
dude should be in jail


[08-Nov-19 07:49 PM] ononim#8141
> Alongside Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro (Social Liberal Party), Secretary of Aquaculture and Fisheries Jorge Seif Júnior said yesterday that the Northeast’s population can continue to consume fish despite the oil slicks that hit the region’s coast for two months. Biologists, however, suggest caution in consumption as contamination may have occurred. 
> Secretary Seif Junior, who is also a fishing entrepreneur, spoke of alleged intelligence of fish and crustaceans to attest to food security - which, to biologists heard by the present report, is “mistaken” thinking.


[08-Nov-19 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump's biggest defenders in the House are a pedophile enabler and a persistent drunkard @byte[]


[08-Nov-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I like beer


[08-Nov-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-slurring-stumble-white-house-anonymous-official-warning-book-a9194481.html

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Trump 'regularly stumbles, slurs and gets confused', White House o...
‘It’s like showing up at the nursing home at daybreak to find your elderly uncle running pantsless across the courtyard,’ says anonymous author
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[08-Nov-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://reason.com/2019/11/07/new-yorkers-overwhelmingly-voted-to-give-a-civilian-oversight-board-more-power-to-investigate-lying-cops/

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New Yorkers Overwhelmingly Voted To Give a Civilian Oversight Boar...
New York City police officers may face actual consequences for lying after voters passed a ballot question Tuesday to strengthen
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[08-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Police unions are unhappy.'


[08-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
**Good**


[08-Nov-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/world/americas/lula-brazil-supreme-court.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/world/americas/lula-brazil-supreme-court.html
Brazil Supreme Court Paves Way for Release of Ex-President ‘Lula’
Brazil’s top court ruled that defendants may remain free while they exhaust appeals in criminal cases, a decision with far-reaching implications in corruption cases.
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[08-Nov-19 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He com bacc


[08-Nov-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie the quotes from the union are hilarious


[08-Nov-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
> "He knows that truthful police testimony gets thrown out every day in our courts, often based on a judge's whims and biases. He knows that publicizing this information will destroy the careers of honest police officers and torpedo the cases against violent, gun-toting criminals—assuming he bothers to prosecute them at all."


[08-Nov-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://reason.com/2019/10/25/the-nypd-officer-fired-for-choking-eric-garner-is-suing-to-get-his-job-back/

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The NYPD Officer Fired for Choking Eric Garner Is Suing To Get His...
The New York Police Department officer fired in August for the chokehold that led to the death of Eric Garner
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[08-Nov-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He should be in prison instead


[08-Nov-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no mouth and I must scream


[08-Nov-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/convicted-murderer-says-life-sentence-was-served-when-he-died-was-revived-after-septic-poisoning-1470542

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Convicted murderer says life sentence was served when he died and ...
Benjamin Schreiber claimed that his life sentence was served when he was rushed to the hospital and his heart was restarted five times.
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[08-Nov-19 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Well he is technically correct. The best kind of correct.


[08-Nov-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
also


[08-Nov-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
why the fuck are we so bad at killing people


[08-Nov-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
KCl injection is a shittastic way to have someone die and it doesn't even seem to be reliable


[08-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
why not N2O asphyxiation


[08-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
why not opioid overdose


[08-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
both are completely painless


[08-Nov-19 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
and readily available


[08-Nov-19 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
if we're going to execute someone (the idea of which I fundamentally disagree with) the cost should not be a factor in the method


[08-Nov-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's intended to be horrible.


[08-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives rejoice at hurting bad people in horrible ways.


[08-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[08-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
the main effect of the death penalty is it makes people more likely to commit murder


[08-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the state is saying murder is a valid way of dealing with people


[08-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider that we are a country where the cops will shoot first and ask questions never, and that lynchings used to be common.


[08-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that much of the South would rather that *increase*.


[08-Nov-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ad8f2a9b6e424138afcc97fcf2eb29bf

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Facebook is deleting the name of the potential whistleblower
Facebook says it is deleting the name of the person who has been identified in conservative circles as the whistleblower who triggered a congressional impeachment inquiry into President Donald...
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[08-Nov-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china/trump-says-has-not-agreed-to-roll-back-tariffs-on-chinese-goods-idUSKBN1XI1TQ

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Trump says has not agreed to roll back tariffs on Chinese goods
President Donald Trump on Friday said he has not agreed to rollbacks of U.S. tar...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191108&t=2&i=1449873178&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA71ER


[08-Nov-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Nov-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kmph.com/news/local/fresno-brewery-prints-epstein-didnt-kill-himself-on-the-bottom-of-cans?

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Clovis brewery prints 'Epstein didn't kill himself' on the bottom ...
CLOVIS, Calif. (FOX26) – Questions surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide have popped up everywhere lately, and now they have even made their way to the bottom of a beer can.  Printed on the bottom of the cans sold at Tatical Ops Brewing in Fresno is the message, "2...
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[08-Nov-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie

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[08-Nov-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Spotted just now


[08-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sociopaths are more attractive.


[08-Nov-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
They're playing "Baby It's Cold Outside"


[08-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[08-Nov-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
To own the libs I guess


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] Treascair#7785
The Dean Martin version, or the new one with revised lyrics?


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
old one


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's intentionally trying to get his own mustard moment isn't he


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
you can check this


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
just turn the TV to Fox...


[08-Nov-19 11:42 PM] Treascair#7785
We don't have TV's in the lab, and I'm not going to infect my phone with that drivel


[08-Nov-19 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
ok fair enough


[08-Nov-19 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
also NY post is a total rag


[08-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is a song about drugging a woman and keeping her from leaving the house acceptable


[08-Nov-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
product of its time


[08-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[08-Nov-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
tl;dr it isn't


[08-Nov-19 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
we like it for the same reasons we hold festivities around coniferous evergreens


[08-Nov-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
that is to say no reason at all


[08-Nov-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So few people even fight for a religious Christmas


[08-Nov-19 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a pagan holiday


[08-Nov-19 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like it used to be "Jesus is the reason for the season" and "say Merry Christmas" but now it's "My Starbucks cup must be covered in Santas or I'll scream"


[08-Nov-19 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
which was coopted by religious nutcases


[08-Nov-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the "war on christmas" is an extremely stupid but effective rage ploy


[08-Nov-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://deadline.com/2019/11/bbc-parliament-airs-donald-trump-impeachment-hearing-1202781215/

> Petition for David Attenborough on commentary!

> "The wild Trump, when cornered, deflects his attackers by accusing them of what he's being accused of."

> _The North American Corrupt Orangutan is known for its miniscule paws, aggressive behavior, and, paradoxically, its extreme cowardice. It spends its days gorging itself on as much meat as it can find, and, moves from mate to mate by making grand gestures, like gathering shiny pebbles to adorn his cave. In the presence of younger, stronger apes, the NACO cowers, supplicates, and bows in deference. When they leave, the troupe is treated to a series of acts of mimicry, derision, and undermining._

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[09-Nov-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Fox News is doing a segment on how Schiff has "trashed" the constitution


[09-Nov-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
"Biden Switches Focus to Trump"


[09-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elections have consequences, deal with it


[09-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sole power" means just that


[09-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/one-last-candidate-qualifies-for-the-november-debate/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/one-last-candidate-qualifies-for-the-november-debate/
One (Last?) Candidate Qualifies For The November Debate
And another qualifies for December.
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[09-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So 10 candidates on stage next week.


[09-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably 8 on stage a month later.


[09-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could go into 2020 with like, 6 Democratic candidates still.


[09-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I really hope Steyer drops out by 2020.


[09-Nov-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden dropped out, I bet the superdelegates would latch onto him.


[09-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You excited for the shitshow, @Itsthinking?


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A mess could either be good or bad


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably bad. vote-splitting could put Biden on top.


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DNC is definitely overreacting and letting too many in


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>harris won over yang


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think qualifying numbers should be based on rank, not on absolutes.


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
god i hate my country


[09-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, top 6 candidates by polling, then by donors.


[09-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of this crap where 10 people can make it.


[09-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Iowa will stop a lot


[09-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa will throw Yang, Harris, and Booker out


[09-Nov-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Are youtube poops political commentary?

https://youtu.be/J9pjOI_Vjhc

"Once their attitude has been adjusted, [the workers] are transferred to a machine that applies a beating"

"A computer reads the lie: 'Creating jobs is altruism'"

"Having the workers alive makes it easier to feed them"

"Nowadays wealth isn't just for Europe and America, but for anyone who likes stealing"

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[09-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those ones for sure are


[09-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're entirely about workers being mistreated etc.


[09-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Next, a computer reads the lie... `CREATING JOBS IS ALTRUISM`" "...then it reads the law... `ALL PEOPLE DESERVE LOVE, SHELTER, AND HEALTHCARE`"


[09-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not exactly subtle about it.


[09-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second part is a much bigger givaway than the first.


[09-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
```the main effect of the death penalty is it makes people more likely to commit murder```


[09-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem is, while it's true that 'no person - no problem', you can't make them suffer and live a miserable, empty life after crossing you.


[09-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not _really_ a great way to deal with someone, all told.


[09-Nov-19 01:26 AM] jlun2#8758
TIL  https://nationalpost.com/news/world/japanese-women-push-back-against-glasses-ban-that-doesnt-apply-to-men-at-work

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Japanese women push back against ‘glasses ban’ that doesn’t ...
One woman said she was compelled to wear contact lenses while recovering from an eye infection
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[09-Nov-19 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
typical Japan though, isn't it.


[09-Nov-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
cardboard cutouts of people.


[09-Nov-19 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
or that's what society's goal is.


[09-Nov-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Nov-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1192621451179909120

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Steve Trimble (@TheDEWLine)
https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1192621451179909120
Oh, dear.
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[09-Nov-19 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
what a fucking stupid tradition


[09-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/469695-nsc-official-testified-there-was-no-doubt-trump-wanted-quid-pro-quo#

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NSC official testified there was 'no doubt' Trump pushed quid pro quo
A White House official who was on President Trump's call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told Congress there was “no doubt” that Trump had invoked a quid pro quo, according to transcripts
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[09-Nov-19 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] The woman who started this just had a cake and deeply regrets all of this


[09-Nov-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a cake was enough, why do people feel theneed to top her?


[09-Nov-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ukraine-call-transcript-release-zelensky-impeachment-biden-a9195456.html

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Trump says he will release transcript from different Ukraine call ...
'I had a call before this one with the president of Ukraine and I have no problem giving it to them'
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[09-Nov-19 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
smoking gun #2


[09-Nov-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Ah son, your gender reveal party was truly amazing! We demolished a building using colored blue colored explosives! People were panicing and rioting int he street for hours!"


[09-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
if there's no property damage, it's not a party worth having.


[09-Nov-19 01:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[09-Nov-19 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
oof


[09-Nov-19 01:41 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1192884980885491717?s=19

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@RanaAyyub you have just made a political comment. delete it immediately, otherwise legal action will be taken against you by @amethipolice
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[09-Nov-19 01:41 AM] ononim#8141
BRUH


[09-Nov-19 01:42 AM] ononim#8141
in response to this https://twitter.com/RanaAyyub/status/1192864091368558596

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Tomorrow is a big day for India. The Babri Masjid, a monument of faith for Indian muslims was demolished on 6th Dec 1992 by those in power today. It changed my life and a generation of Muslims who were 'othered' overnight. I hope my country does not disappoint me tomorrow.
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[09-Nov-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
bruh momento


[09-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The thread is fucking terrifying


[09-Nov-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Designated


[09-Nov-19 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
kinda weird tbh


[09-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
police is reduced to replying to comments on twitter


[09-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
feels fake.


[09-Nov-19 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
wouldn't be suprised if they don't even know of the existence of their 'official twitter'


[09-Nov-19 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ this thread


[09-Nov-19 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and you thought America had it bad with trumpets :D


[09-Nov-19 02:00 AM] ononim#8141
@Opponent they're verified


[09-Nov-19 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
well then. The point about it being weird stands.


[09-Nov-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that weird, they;re trying to set the equivalent of shariah law for india what better way than to police twitter


[09-Nov-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s more fucked up than weird


[09-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
you don't police by giving warnings though.


[09-Nov-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you scare them into taking down their post thus sending a clear message of dominance, or you go hunting them down liek that woman in china


[09-Nov-19 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you dont start guns ablazing, you lead into it if they don;t obey your orders


[09-Nov-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the warning also had the added benefit of riling up supporters of the police


[09-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm, yeah, the last part is a clear benefit. I stand corrected.


[09-Nov-19 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was more about sending a message of intimidation, than about policing


[09-Nov-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real shit starts tomorrow if said police force shows up to quashw hatever is being mentioned by Rana Ayyub


[09-Nov-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it;s the re-establishing of a religious monument but i could be wrong?


[09-Nov-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't have enough context about them to guess on why and what does it mean.


[09-Nov-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i; just going off comments in the thread


[09-Nov-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
India was always pretty fucked up, luckily for us, unlike China it's highly unlikely to ever become our problem.


[09-Nov-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could be readign the event wrong but whatever it is, the police force and the hindu community are very not happy about it


[09-Nov-19 02:27 AM] ononim#8141
It's about a historical Mosque destroyed in 1992 in a riot


[09-Nov-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
> Muslims were also awarded one-third area of the site for the construction of a mosque.[6][7] The decision was appealed in the Supreme Court of India, whose verdict is expected between 4–15 November 2019.[7]


[09-Nov-19 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thank you for context


[09-Nov-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
so this is about how people were allowed to build another one ona third of the site


[09-Nov-19 02:29 AM] ononim#8141
but someone (probably Hindu nationalists) are appealing it to not let them


[09-Nov-19 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All those Indian nationalists thanking the police in the replies section is creepy af


[09-Nov-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s terrifying


[09-Nov-19 02:29 AM] ononim#8141
by the way, current rulling Indian party is strongly Hindu nationalsit and the president, who's part of it, oversaw Gujarat province during one of the biggest muslim pogrom in recent hisotry


[09-Nov-19 02:30 AM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 look also at the replies just to OP


[09-Nov-19 02:30 AM] ononim#8141
scary shit


[09-Nov-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hang Modi tbh


[09-Nov-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
India has extremely toxic politics


[09-Nov-19 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Summarized:
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[09-Nov-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically pretend to be the US, but instead of the rural areas refusing to hire blakks, they rape little girls who dare pal around with the boys of other villages, and the terrorists are right nextdoor so everyone's constantly out for blood because it's like if Mexico and Syria were the same thing.


[09-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
All their talk about equal rights is just so they can pretend they like Gandhi and aren't just as bad as the Brits that ruled over them.


[09-Nov-19 02:34 AM] ononim#8141
>but instead of the rural areas refusing to hire blakks


[09-Nov-19 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
I feel like the better analogy would be anti-dailit violence


[09-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, but the thing to realize is that India's rural areas make the worst the US has to offer look like saints.


[09-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And India's cities really aren't much better


[09-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a sham all the way down.


[09-Nov-19 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
India is way way way more racist than the US


[09-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Divide in the US now really isn't big coastal city and farmland


[09-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's big coastal city and smaller landlocked city


[09-Nov-19 03:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a lot of that farm land is owned by, like, a hundred people


[09-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chicago vs Cleveland, not Chicago vs rural Kansas


[09-Nov-19 03:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vast swathes of Texas and Oklahoma are barren save for corn


[09-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
that may be true


[09-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
but the US still gives the vote to land


[09-Nov-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
not to people


[09-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.md/gdVmR

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archived 9 Nov 2019 02:26:36 UTC
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[09-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
that >designated police tweet was deleted


[09-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
someone archived it tho


[09-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/08/politics/donald-trump-press-conference/index.html (borderline satire article)

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The 40 wildest lines from Donald Trump's impromptu Friday press co...
It was a very frustrated President who greeted reporters Friday morning before jetting off to Atlanta. I went through the transcript of Trump's remarks -- they stretched for almost a half hour -- and took note of some of his more outlandish lines. They're below.
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[09-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/08/us/gender-reveal-plane-crash-trnd/index.html

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Gender reveal stunt led to plane crash in Texas
A man's plane "got too low" and immediately stalled.
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[09-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are people like this


[09-Nov-19 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nandorvila/status/1192979962355048448

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Bloomberg's campaign logo is truly awful
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[09-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it's honest not awful xD


[09-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
I love it


[09-Nov-19 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Boomer 2020


[09-Nov-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
boomer logo


[09-Nov-19 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
can't wait until someone edits it to say "ok boomer"


[09-Nov-19 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
what's funny is that it has every letter needed for "ok boomer" except the K, and the R can easily be edited to look like a k


[09-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
to me it looks like they're accepting the challenge.


[09-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
like this is a response to 'ok boomer'


[09-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Opponent#3498
regardless of what it is though, I love it.


[09-Nov-19 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Nov-19 12:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/protest-against-turkish-invasion-of-rojava-in-moscow-39152?fbclid=IwAR3P5mgecK09AfY33umdEPozcQsRiqmSjIda0sPe7q53cOaLYqkTr9qQhT0

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Protest against Turkish invasion of Rojava in Moscow
Kurdish institutions and various leftist organisations promoted a demonstration in Moscow in protest at Turkish invasion attacks against North and East Syria.

Gathering in front of Dostoyevska m...
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[09-Nov-19 01:46 PM] Opponent#3498
what the fuck is this...


[09-Nov-19 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the typical Russian 'left', aka delusional communists in their typical rally for nothing in particular.


[09-Nov-19 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
it has literally nothing to do with Turkey, Kurds, or anything else. Granted, I don't know what they're saying in the interviews in latter half of the video, but still.


[09-Nov-19 01:49 PM] Opponent#3498
and they're tolerated, because they're absolutely useless and harmless.


[09-Nov-19 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7751ba0c79f147a98f9a30524a5b4c5b

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Trump's sports kick is about politics, but fans have a say
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is on a sports kick, taking in a baseball game, a mixed martial arts tournament and a college football game and getting in some chilly rounds of golf. Even...
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[09-Nov-19 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50355775

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Indian top court gives Ayodhya holy site to Hindus
The land dispute has been bitterly contested by Hindus and Muslims for decades.
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[09-Nov-19 05:08 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Nov-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b0a134b90f304f3096e63e46065562b3

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Pot or not? Busts highlight growing confusion over hemp
NEW YORK (AP) — The CBD craze might be leaving the war on drugs a bit dazed and confused. The extract that's been showing up in everything from candy to coffee is legally derived from hemp...
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[09-Nov-19 06:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Even having legal paperwork isn't enough


[09-Nov-19 06:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like developing country, where besides paperwork, one should have "levy" amount paid to an undisclosed account.


[09-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
account? Pfeh. Cash only.


[09-Nov-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
New York just made officers more accountable as well


[09-Nov-19 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
those two could actually face consequences lol


[09-Nov-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a7eec452ef7f4008b89821fd100832c3 of course he is

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N Carolina senator has latched on to Trump. Will he hold on?
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Sen. Thom Tillis is following a simple formula for reelection in closely divided North Carolina: Stand with Donald Trump. It seems far less complicated than his winning...
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[09-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Treascair#7785
Because that worked out so well for Bevin...


[09-Nov-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i anglerfish myself onto Trump, I can never fail!"


[09-Nov-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then the species went extinct because trump wasn't a female anglerfish


[09-Nov-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the GoP just became a floating ball of micro sacks


[09-Nov-19 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/CircleToonsHD/status/1193195498938814464

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[09-Nov-19 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
ok boomer.


[09-Nov-19 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if boomer is a slur, then millenial is equally a slur


[09-Nov-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/88e89cd56bbe4b779a2d6f89701a57fd

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For 30-somethings, stakes are high over future of DACA
PHOENIX (AP) — Karina Ruiz's life is deeply rooted in Phoenix. She has three children and two grandkids, a side gig selling houses, frantic days rushing kids off to school and activities, a busy...
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[09-Nov-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dtuhp9/berliners_are_trolling_trump_by_shipping_him_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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[09-Nov-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.facingsouth.org/2019/11/texas-considers-ending-judicial-elections-democrats-gain-ground

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[09-Nov-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
>"People trying to kill specific population upset when that specific population calls them names"


[09-Nov-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
boomers vs zoomers


[09-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) electing judges is bad


[09-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Missouri Plan is the best option


[09-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.yourmissourijudges.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/infographic2.jpg

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[09-Nov-19 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Still doesn't look *that* protected from regulatory capture which appears to be the Republican strategy to everything


[09-Nov-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's better than elections


[09-Nov-19 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the governor acts in a partisan way and appoints 3 deeply partisan members to the commission, it'd only take 1 of the other 4 members to approve of a "preferential" candidate for that candidate to move on to the final 3 from which he makes a selection himself


[09-Nov-19 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
After all, the step that screens for qualifications is *not* first, nor is it automatic, and can be influenced


[09-Nov-19 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
On a related note, the number of times Kushner was allowed to *apply* for a security clearance after failing is unacceptable to me, regardless of him being granted a clearance in spite of that. The rules don't matter if you're the one in charge of enforcing them


[09-Nov-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You have three deeply partisan members sure


[09-Nov-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But one Justice and three lawyers picked by the Bar


[09-Nov-19 10:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They don't need to have a majority to achieve capture. They just need *enough,* and in the right positions


[09-Nov-19 10:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the gov is the lynchpin


[09-Nov-19 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, here's the key: They do not need to be working in conspiracy to do this. The only difference between collusion and an agenda is whether or not you coordinate directly with the people working towards the same goal


[09-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of these are hypotheticals, and this has been in place for over half a century


[09-Nov-19 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They are hypotheticals based on experience - I draw from the examples of *literally everthing* that is happening in Washington regarding career politics


[09-Nov-19 10:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, I would argue, over the last half century is when we have seen the most work done towards driving the government into staunchly partisan polities and the spread of partisan ideals in ostensibly nonpartisan areas of government - in particular, the Judiciary


[09-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People railing against the ABA for rating judges not qualified


[09-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of Trump's recent picks for district judge has never been lead counsel on any case


[09-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She has never been a judge on any lower level


[09-Nov-19 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"one of?"


[09-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"[She]  has  never  tried  a  case  as  lead  or  co-counsel, whether  civil  or  criminal.  She  has  never  examined  a  witness.  Though [she] has argued one  case  in a  court  of  appeals, she  has  not  taken a  deposition. She  has  not  argued any  motion  in  a  state  or  federal  trial  court.  She  has  never  picked  a  jury.  She  has  never participated at  any  stage  of  a  criminal  matter."


[09-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give this woman a lifetime appointment!


[09-Nov-19 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump had six judicial nominees rated “not qualified” in the first two years of his presidency


[09-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People say the ABA is biased


[09-Nov-19 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
People have not seen this

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[09-Nov-19 10:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You look at GHW Bush, you look at Clinton, you look at Trump, you look at Obama...being Republican or Democratic as President has no corellation


[09-Nov-19 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(the thing that *does* corellate is whether or not that President has undergone an impachment investigation, but I'm sure that's just coincidence. Probably.)


[09-Nov-19 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
~~also, that graph is out of date as Trump has had even more "not qualified" nominees in 2019~~ prolly not, this is just counting in the first 2 years of presidency but still


[09-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All you really need to do to be considered for a nomination is be a part of your political stances legal organization


[09-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just join FedSoc to be picked by a Republican or ACS to be picked by a Democrat


[09-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some group put forth a list of candidates for 2020 Dems if they win


[09-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's maybe one or two qualified candidates on it


[09-Nov-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest are politicians or activists


[09-Nov-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7751ba0c79f147a98f9a30524a5b4c5b

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Trump soaks in Deep South cheers at college football matchup
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) — President Donald Trump knew where to go Saturday for home field advantage, finding comfort in the Deep South with college football fans cheering the nation's top two teams...
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[09-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't really seem to get that he needs more than a base


[09-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems have a good chance or rebuilding the blue wall


[09-Nov-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/469720-warren-i-am-angry-and-i-own-it#

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Warren: 'I am angry and I own it'
Sen.
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[09-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only men are allowed to be angry.


[09-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Women are shrill and unlikeable if they are.


[09-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking way too much control by the governor in that


[09-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
All he needs to get in whoever he wants is to slip the guy in with the other 2


[09-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
all he needs to slip the guy in with the other 2 is to get 1 of 4 he doesn't appoint to agree


[09-Nov-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's practically what you'd design if you WANTED complete control by the governor, but disguised as a sane system.


[09-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want it fixed, don't let the governor choose 1 of 3


[09-Nov-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead hav the 7 pikk the best directly


[09-Nov-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way there aren't 2 slip-ins to distract


[09-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah the seven picking the best would be best but this was a compromise I think


[09-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, make it 3-2-2 of Chief Justice-Governor appointee-Bar


[09-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a "compromise"


[09-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a disguise.


[09-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what Republicans very often do.


[09-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just have 4 justices and three elected bar members


[09-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then the governor picks


[09-Nov-19 11:12 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/rural-towns-dying-as-owners-cling-to-properties-in-hopes-of-better-prices--report-960457.html>
> Rural towns and villages are dying because property owners are clinging onto vacant homes in the hope that prices will increase, a Government report has found.
> Interim reports produced as part of a pilot initiative of six rural towns has found that many buildings have fallen into disrepair and remain vacant because there are both difficulties identifying owners and in other cases the property holder is refusing to sell.
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[09-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you never want the governor pikking directly


[09-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
never ever


[09-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
havn't I given you the spiel on bribery/corruption/conspiracy prevention?


[09-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the ideal is that the three lawyers and one justice will always pick the best candidate and pressure the three lay members


[09-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So nothing goes to the governor that the majority of the commission wouldn't be fine with


[09-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how it works.


[09-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to bribing to get what you want


[09-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the ideal, never said that's how it works


[09-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
the key is to make the number of people it takes as high as possible


[09-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you hav to bribe EVERYONE, it's infeasible to keep bribing, you'll be caught


[09-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any time you can slip in your guy among a large set, and just choose him directly...


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you only need to bribe one person to get him in the set tobegin with...


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's as easy as bribery gets.


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Governor takes a few bar members out to dinner once in a while and he's got the judiciary pakked.


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well considering those people are picked by other members of the bar


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That wouldn't work


[09-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
everyone's vulnerable to bribery


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other lawyers elect the bar members though


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and that just means it'll take a bit more cash.


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The governor bribing random lawyers would do nothing


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not random lawyers


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
the ones elected


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[09-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need the right man in charge if you hav the money to pay the wrong man.


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly funny story connected to this


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day the game is for the governor to get in as many people loyal to him who don't need bribes as possible


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri had a retention election last year and for the first time in a decade or so voted one out


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's the entire point of this whole process, trying to make sure they aren't just his loyal servants, but people he'd need to bribe


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She also happened to be the wife of the Chief Justice of the Missouri supreme Court


[09-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So maybe I get you


[09-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being on that commission hearing


[09-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
heh


[09-Nov-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Yeah I think she should be one of our three right?"


[09-Nov-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Y-yes, your honor"


[09-Nov-19 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some chaos is heating up in Bolivia rn


[09-Nov-19 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Police have sided with right-wing protestors against Evo Morales


[09-Nov-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that some Bolivian officials are now richer and Jared Kushner a little less so.


[09-Nov-19 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though i'm pretty sure nothing of that scale could topple Evo without the support of the military, which has declared itself neutral so long as things continue that way


[09-Nov-19 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also uh


[09-Nov-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC, the CIA's social media accounts recently spread propaganda criticising Evo's reelection


[09-Nov-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clearly this is just a coincidence


[09-Nov-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, given that Trump is still at the helm, there's a 95% chance of failure on this one imo


[09-Nov-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could this prelude to a crisis be some sort of distraction from the impeachment inquiries?


[09-Nov-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Don't impeach me while i'm deposing an evil tyrannical brown commie dictator"


[09-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think this would've happened either way


[09-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Evo Morales is a huge threat to Wilsonianism.


[09-Nov-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[09-Nov-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
C L E A R   T H E    C H U R C H E S


[09-Nov-19 11:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
V I V E    A N A R C H IY


[09-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
HTC VIVE, THE NEW VR EXPERIENCE


[09-Nov-19 11:31 PM] ononim#8141
oh no


[09-Nov-19 11:31 PM] ononim#8141
the corporate got to tsp


[09-Nov-19 11:31 PM] ononim#8141
they're broadcasting the ads from him now


[09-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're going to meme in spanish you may as well actually use proper grammar


[09-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people actually think there's a shot at 67 votes in the Senate


[09-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really


[09-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There a chance for like 2, tops


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah currently I see like at least five


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP are too chickenshit


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At most I could see around a dozen


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, 30 GOP votes if secret.


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TomJHarper/status/1193279348851314688

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[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is fear of how it'll be seen by the party.


[09-Nov-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Judicial Nomination™ , The hit new craze sweeping the politican nation! Buy yours today!


[09-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What party


[09-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There is no party


[09-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ain't no party like a Nazi party, Its.


[09-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Either in 2021 or 2025 the GOP will be living in a new world where they don't have a person to follow


[09-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't want Jr. or Ivanka


[09-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly for them, Hitler's not an option


[09-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll hav to settle for 34th best.


[09-Nov-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hitler could be an option if they weren;t against cloning


[09-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's half jew tho


[09-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want Hitler's mind, but in a purer body.


[09-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't he only a quarter Jew


[09-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He would be in his own camps were he not fuhrer


[09-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quarter, half, it's all the same to the KKK, single drop and all.


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who don't believe all men are created equal.


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're the party, at this stage.


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the child of immigrants too.


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's base, who believe any cost is worth it to stikk it to the libs and blakks


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're the party.


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav been pushing out liberals and moderates for years


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'd eat a shit sandwich just to breathe in a liberals face"


[09-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats hav been gobbling them up


[09-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbs used to be solidly red


[09-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are cutting off their noses to spite the face.


[09-Nov-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what happens if like


[09-Nov-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
all the people who can get voter ID are in blue areas


[09-Nov-19 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
because the judiciary tossed the most racist crap out


[09-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans kept the crap making it hard for white trash in rural areas to vote?


[09-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like what will happen when every blakk ex-felon is voting, but every gator-humper can't even prove they're a citizen anymore?


[09-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>voter ID is a reliable way to ID people


[09-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>any 15 year old can get a fake


[09-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes you think


[09-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is possible to end up undocumented as a US citizen btw


[09-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if your parent/guardian withhold certain documents then even once you become an adult, the mess of rules on how to acquire them can leave you unable to "start" anywhere


[10-Nov-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-09/state-department-freed-ukraine-money-before-trump-says-he-did


[10-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IlSBvQSXw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IlSBvQSXw
Video appears to show Popeyes employee body slamming woman outside...
Another incident of violence erupted at a Popeyes with an employee allegedly body slamming a woman onto the concrete outside a Tennessee restaurant. Details:...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/70IlSBvQSXw/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[10-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she used the n word


[10-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
she's some grandma in her 50's, she had 6 broken ribs and a broken knee


[10-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
and 2 more unmentioned fractures


[10-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeesh.


[10-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's gonna get a fair bit of money.


[10-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
> She’s aboutta win enough money to last 10 generations.


[10-Nov-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
New healthcare strategy: say N word to popeye's employees, get tons of damages, now you can afford to liv with diabates after they fix the broken ribs


[10-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/11/when-america-tried-to-deport-its-radicals

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When America Tried to Deport Its Radicals
A hundred years ago, the Palmer Raids imperilled thousands of immigrants. Then a wily official got in the way.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5dbb8572e3563a0008623464/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/191111_r35242.jpg


[10-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hoover was a horrible person, basically.


[10-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a lukky pro-worker official managed to stem the bleeding.


[10-Nov-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, not long after, immigration was clamped down to virtually nothing, so a ship full of jews was turned away during the holocaust etc.


[10-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
USS St. Louis


[10-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
e-except, they kinda.. did


[10-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
that's exactly what happened in the transition between the weimar republic and NAZI GERMANY


[10-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
deleted post by me - if people shot communist agitators in 19-teens on sight, the world just might be better off as a result. Alas the time when that could make a difference is way gone.


[10-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't actually think you were a fascist


[10-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
my mistake


[10-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
to every rule there's an exception.


[10-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
communism, as professed originally, being death of all individuality...


[10-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
not a fan.


[10-Nov-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
have you actually read marx


[10-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
do I care to? I've read early history of Soviet Union.


[10-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
don't give me the 'means of production' thing. It's an economic policy with bare to none social component.


[10-Nov-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
because if you're going to make claims about what communism _is_ and _is not_ it's important to know what the founder of the term in common usage actually meant it to mean


[10-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
well he refused to be associated with what came to be known as communism so...


[10-Nov-19 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
> communism, as professed originally


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
we're talking about marx


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
right?


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
well no. The thing Lenin and co. preached, funded by Reich money.


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
what came to be known as "communism" was actually called stalinism


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the version that was spreading world-wide.


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
Stalin came much later.


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
stalin came in 1925


[10-Nov-19 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
communism as professed originally was marx...


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
see, much later.


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
marx was 1840's


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Marx wrote a theory about an inevitable stage of humankind development after a certain threshold has passed.


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Bolsheviks wrote a treatise how to bring it onto the world RIGHT NOW.


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
big difference.


[10-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
what came to be known as "communism" was actually stalinism because the USSR called themselves communist


[10-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
and what did they call themselves before 1925 then?


[10-Nov-19 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
the stalinists?


[10-Nov-19 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
no. No they did not.


[10-Nov-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm asking for clarification


[10-Nov-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Not providing a response


[10-Nov-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Are you asking what the stalinists called themselves before 1925


[10-Nov-19 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Or the communists, because the communists just called themselves communists


[10-Nov-19 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Many professed Marx, some Lenin, some Trotsky


[10-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm asking what Soviet Union called themselves, as the source of Red Scare and contemporary relevant memes.


[10-Nov-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
well, the USSR was barely socialist (even though the workers technically owned the means of production, they didn't receive any of the benefits)


[10-Nov-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
and it was nowhere near communist


[10-Nov-19 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism

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Stalinism
Stalinism is the means of governing and related policies implemented from 1927 to 1953 by Joseph Stalin (1878–1953). Stalinist policies and ideas that were developed in the Soviet Union included rapid industrialization, the theory of socialism in one country, a totalitarian...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/JStalin_Secretary_general_CCCP_1942.jpg/1200px-JStalin_Secretary_general_CCCP_1942.jpg


[10-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Crow to clarify the 'probably fascist' comment. Different times call for different solutions. In our current day and age, it's highly counterproductive to pursue a specific group of people, because of many reasons. It's ineffective. Back in 19-teens, well, very different world, still.


[10-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it didn't matter if it was though.


[10-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a state brough to life by an honest attempt at fleshing out communist ideology.


[10-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it stumbled half-way through, and ditched that path, but that's also part of the point.


[10-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
stalin was not interested in communist ideology


[10-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
he was interested isolationism and consolidating power


[10-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Opponent#3498
of course he wasn't. Why would a gang leader turned state overlord care about stupidity like 'equal rights' or whatever. Might makes right.


[10-Nov-19 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
every decision he made moved the USSR away from communism


[10-Nov-19 06:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f21f1578b0741fe3f24ada/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/171106_r30848.jpg


[10-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
``` It wasn’t until April that Lenin, having negotiated with the Germans to provide him safe passage back to Russia (the Germans realized that he might have a destabilizing effect on their enemy), arrived at the Finland Station, in St. Petersburg, and announced his radical opposition to the current government and to the war. ```


[10-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm sorry, what? Everywhere I've seen before, Lenin and communist party in general was funded by the Reich for the explicit purposes of helping then win the Eastern Front and destabilise already pretty shitty Empire.


[10-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
payed off big time, too, with Brusilov finally making progress there.


[10-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
```After the Bolsheviks took power and pulled out of the war, Russia’s former allies joined the civil war on the side of the anti-Bolshevik Whites.``` ```their intervention convinced the Bolsheviks that the capitalist powers would not rest until Communism was dead.```


[10-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Opponent#3498
good golly gee, people are upset when you take power and proclaim 'international revolution' as the sole purpose of your existance.


[10-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```In Italy, in 1922, Mussolini was made Prime Minister after merely threatening to march on Rome. In Poland, a few years later, Józef Piłsudski took Warsaw. Romania, Hungary, the Baltic states—all fell under the sway of right-wing dictatorships, and all were deeply hostile to Soviet power.```


[10-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the american revolution was carried out by terrorists


[10-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
from a certain point of view


[10-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BugznGj6bU

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Visio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BugznGj6bU
Mussolini invades greece
Mama mia, that's a spicy meatball. like for free iphone 5 pls gib sub
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9BugznGj6bU/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
you mean the neighboring states, fresh out of their various empires, for better or worse, are upset that they gonna be rolled over again and are hostile.


[10-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Crow that's not what I mean, many things, of course, are subjective.


[10-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, the leftist italian government literally rolled over for the fascists at the slightest threat of marching because they thought that the fascists would be better than the communists, even though the leftist government was ideologically the same as the communists in the eyes of the fascists


[10-Nov-19 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I don't really understand the purpose of his book. Either it or the article (probably the article, given that it doesn't directly quote things but paraphrases them) is factually incorrect, but overall seem to argue on the angle of 'good communists, bad Stalin'.


[10-Nov-19 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
did I get that right?


[10-Nov-19 07:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```And then, on top of all the killing, the Soviets were also socialists who had repudiated tsarist-era debts.```


[10-Nov-19 07:17 AM] Opponent#3498
the book actually mention it though. I'm suprised.


[10-Nov-19 07:18 AM] Opponent#3498
most do not. The West just... hated the communists. No practicality in it at all.


[10-Nov-19 07:39 AM] Opponent#3498
overall I'm still at a loss for why you linked this to me. It's a modern russian biography of Stalin, written by a guy who seems to write what he's payed to write, reviewed by a guy who wrote a pro-russian novel. Arguing that Stalin was a product of his time or something (can't tell without reading the source), mixing and matching the already known facts to present a narrative as usual.


[10-Nov-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
the fact that you call everything you disagree with a "narrative" is hilarious, like it's some kind of curse word/black mark against it


[10-Nov-19 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't entirely disagree with it, it's just that, especially in russian, you can find Stalin biographies over the years arguing all manners of points from Antichrist to saint.


[10-Nov-19 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
how is this one noteworthy?


[10-Nov-19 07:43 AM] Opponent#3498
Soviet reputation didn't start with Stalin, neither did their agression or Red Scare


[10-Nov-19 07:43 AM] Opponent#3498
under him it got worse, sure. But Palmer raids we originally discussed and the beginning of the movement predates him.


[10-Nov-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if we say that Stalin time-travelled to 1919 America upon his "death"


[10-Nov-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the raids were not actually stopping a real threat


[10-Nov-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The organizations in question were huge and relatively unorganized


[10-Nov-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had varying ideals


[10-Nov-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of them had massively inflated membership lists


[10-Nov-19 07:45 AM] Opponent#3498
so they were vastly scarier than they looked. Yeah, probably.


[10-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What use is it to waste resources going after everyone an organization alleges to be part of itself without taking the time to examine anything or get warrants?


[10-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
three points.


[10-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you're going to do doing that is make anyone actually planning something tipped off


[10-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
1. with the benefit of hindsight, none. Just flat out, none.


[10-Nov-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well before you could get info on what it is.


[10-Nov-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget hindsight, imagine rounding up 10,000 people today because they were part of a defunct nazi website's membership list


[10-Nov-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what this is.


[10-Nov-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other day you were indicating that's a horrid idea.


[10-Nov-19 07:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I indicated that NOW, a bit higher up.


[10-Nov-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the whole thing was just trying to get rid of dissenters.


[10-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big pointless waste of time that just hurt people who weren't real threats.


[10-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
what made it different back then? Well for one, (as my point 2) the spreading of ideas was much more localised.


[10-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drumming up an imagined opponent to get political support.


[10-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If ideas spread worse, what point was there in rounding these people up?


[10-Nov-19 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
it _made sense_ to fear what from the outside appeared to be an alien, vast, homogenous group.


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it didn't.


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
because if you don't, you'll allow them opportunity to work their magic.


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They knew what these groups were


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had investigative powers


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the literature was there


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
a proper US investigation involves planting agents undercover and waiting


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
amassing evidence for wtf is going on


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
whether you should even really arrest anyone


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
was this how it worked back then too?


[10-Nov-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[10-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was this time period where that was DEVELOPED


[10-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was harder to prosecute conspiracies at the time


[10-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they needed to lie in wait longer to get more evidence


[10-Nov-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the federal gov't had just been given new powers to investigate


[10-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way mobsters were actually taken down was to just sit and wait among them until they made enuff mistakes that you could nail their coffin shut.


[10-Nov-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sending in a raid early was a huge mistake that would just mean the real bad guys get free.


[10-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
fair enough. So the procedure was not followed, and the move was entirely political is your point.


[10-Nov-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of just rushing in to round up everyone is stupid even if they WERE a real threat, is the point.


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
What'll happen is anyone you don't find in the initial wave will go into hiding, continuing to plot


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you won't know WHAT they are plotting.


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you DON'T KNOW what the threat is


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's **FUKKING RETARDED** to rush in with a bunch of guys


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is strategy 101


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you're right I suppose.


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The less you know, the more you need to scout.


[10-Nov-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only a fool goes to war and plans to win later


[10-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
you win, and then you go to war.


[10-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
WW2 Germans xD


[10-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only an absolute retard goes to war without even knowing what he's going to war with.


[10-Nov-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is why Hoover was a one-term president.


[10-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just politically-motivated nonsense, it was sloppy idiocy.


[10-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Opponent#3498
fair enough.


[10-Nov-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This btw is the same basic reason Republicans lost Watergate


[10-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believed they were facing Democrats doing a little fishing expedition because of some wakkos


[10-Nov-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they were actually facing was fully recorded plans to break the law by their president.


[10-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, Trump's party now might "win" solely because it's full of people who knew from the outset that Trump did horrible illegal shit


[10-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and just hav made peace with that.


[10-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is *why* the US has these investigative procedures...


[10-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, it's not uncommon for a plot to be halfway to completion when investigators reveal they've been inside the plot since day 2


[10-Nov-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and throw the book at the plotters.


[10-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The slow inevitable burn of warrants and mountains of information will always beat just scaring everyone away.


[10-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep your friends close, *and your enemies closer*.


[10-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah yeah.


[10-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I assume, this sort of thing is what you think of, when you say 'rule of law'.


[10-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow well for what it's worth I'm sorry for what I said before, and I should've known better. I realised past the emotions that I do not have a solid argument for that. Not in the least because we know how things panned out in history, the what-ifs are meaningless.


[10-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's not a normal thought process to think that x group should be exterminated because of hindsight


[10-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
it's more than that, though, in this particular case.


[10-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
so much of the world as we know it is defined by 20th century it's literally impossible to predict what would change.


[10-Nov-19 10:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Nov-19 10:06 AM] Opponent#3498
is it satire or real?


[10-Nov-19 10:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like developing country attitude

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[10-Nov-19 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), as far as I can tell, that tweet is fake


[10-Nov-19 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/policy/international/469705-erdogan-visit-stirs-memories-of-violent-protests

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Turkish President Recep Tayipp Erdoğan’s planned visit to Washington this week is raising concerns about a repeat of violent protests from his 2017 trip, as recent court documents provide new details about the clashes between U.S.
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[10-Nov-19 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290

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https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290
Remember nuclear winter? Of course you don’t. That’s because it didn’t happen. Yet it was all the rage on the Left in the 1980s. A generation from now, no one will recall climate change either, and for the same reason. The apocalypse has become a political racket! ht...
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[10-Nov-19 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1193377531828805632?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Make America Great Again! https://t.co/ffS9kLtjxE
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[10-Nov-19 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see he;s trying to meme again


[10-Nov-19 04:31 PM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda) how can one person be this retarded


[10-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
better question. This video was not made by him personally.


[10-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
how can _anyone else_ be this retarded?


[10-Nov-19 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, I suppose that's not fair. I'd probably jump at the prospect of editing a WH video, even for Trump and full of ~~lies~~ unverified claims.


[10-Nov-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think they means the guy from the tweet i posted


[10-Nov-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dude thinks we ever exited the fear of nuclear winter, we have very much not. it only takes one pissed off suicidal country to start the whole thing


[10-Nov-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or trump...


[10-Nov-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump was all about using them nukes during his 2016 campaign


[10-Nov-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at one point i think he wanted to nuke a hurricane


[10-Nov-19 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
ah. Okay, that one's not really defensible.


[10-Nov-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the hurricane incident was earlier this year or last year


[10-Nov-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html

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Trump suggested dropping nuclear bombs into hurricanes to stop the...
"People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
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[10-Nov-19 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking https://i.redd.it/mqlny8utftx31.png

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[10-Nov-19 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Nov-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```Peaceful Nuclear Explosions Treaty```


[10-Nov-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
let's take a moment to appreciate this wonderful name and the implications behind it.


[10-Nov-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
☢


[10-Nov-19 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Meanwhile in 🇮🇳
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[10-Nov-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[10-Nov-19 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Hill: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/469724-buttigieg-acknowledges-struggle-with-racial-inequality-in-south-bend-police

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Buttigieg acknowledges 'struggle' with racial inequality in South ...
Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg acknowledged in an interview that aired early Saturday, nearly five months after the deadly police shooting of a black man in South Bend, Ind., that he’s had “a real struggle” with r
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[10-Nov-19 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/pete-buttigieg-cinnamon-roll

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Pete Buttigieg eating cinnamon roll 'like a chicken wing' draws ri...
A photograph of Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg eating a cinnamon roll has gone viral on Twitter.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/11/Buttigieg-Cinnamon-Roll.jpg


[10-Nov-19 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, consider the deeper implication of the second article


[10-Nov-19 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you compare it to a chikken wing and not, say, a steak?


[10-Nov-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the implication here is that fox news eats wings with a knife and fork


[10-Nov-19 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait


[10-Nov-19 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
By the title I'd've thought he ate them like a chicken wing, ie. fingertips, ginger little bites


[10-Nov-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cut them up with a knife and fork and ate each peice like that


[10-Nov-19 06:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/lizchar/status/1192559998087450629

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i don't care what your politics are, it is illegal to cut a cinnamon roll into pieces with a knife and then eat it like a chicken wing
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[10-Nov-19 06:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You eat steaks wrong, Nebbie


[10-Nov-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's just silly...why not use the fork?


[10-Nov-19 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/10/spain-general-election-polls-pedro-sanchez-psoe

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Spain goes to the polls once more amid tensions and apathy
Acting PM Pedro Sánchez may fall short of majority with far right eyeing third-place finish
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[10-Nov-19 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No one expects the Spanish Election!


[10-Nov-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-spanish-inquisition-no-gif-5758634

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[10-Nov-19 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Nov-19 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Participation is very low


[10-Nov-19 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are high the results will be the same as last time


[10-Nov-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50365124

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Woman's arms found in Russian professor's bag
Napoleon expert Oleg Sokolov was pulled from a river as he apparently tried to dispose of body parts.
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[10-Nov-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
>Woman's arms found in Russian professor's bag


[10-Nov-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141

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[10-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469804-graham-on-the-impeachment-inquiry-i-made-my-mind-up-theres-nothing-there

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Graham on the impeachment inquiry: 'I made my mind up. There's not...
Sen.
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[10-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Should recuse himself from the vote then, you can't be an impartial juror


[10-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP is going on and on about a trial not being fair but it's not fair to the "prosecution" to have such biased jurors, if this were any other trial he wouldn't be allowed on the jury


[10-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully he drops dead.


[10-Nov-19 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would still be doing it from beyond the grave somehow


[10-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if a Democratic senator said "I've made my mind up, I'm voting for removal"


[10-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They would get reamed


[10-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Devil gets impeached, Graham there saying that his mind is made up.


[10-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://kronilix.tumblr.com/post/188953302742

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[10-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just him and 5 demons saying that actually, smuggling child molesters into Heavan is just normal Hell foreign policy.


[10-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
thx tumblr


[10-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Technically, you're not allowed to giv a humorous gift comemmorating someone's 40th birthday.


[10-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
etc. etc.


[10-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah anything age discrimination is really something you don't want to touch


[10-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything that could even be seen as it


[10-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're also technically not allowed to refuse service to a pregnant woman if you're a bartender...


[10-Nov-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Nov-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it IS Democrats' problem.


[10-Nov-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they have to offer a better deal.


[10-Nov-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
as for 'ok boomer' as hate speech, well. Something something double-edged blade.


[10-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
this is why the concept of hate speech is deeply flawed.


[10-Nov-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.abc57.com/news/michigan-police-claim-marijuana-legalization-has-made-work-difficult

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Michigan Police claim marijuana legalization has made work difficult
Michigan State Police said that legalization of marijuana is making their jobs difficult.
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[10-Nov-19 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
cry me a river


[10-Nov-19 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, you canl;t fill those quotas anymore. how sad


[10-Nov-19 08:00 PM] Arvid#8335
I can understand joking around but when I see people legit hating on an entire generation, I'm like, fuck off


[10-Nov-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is this comes after 2 decades of using millenial as a venom filled word


[10-Nov-19 08:01 PM] Arvid#8335
Gonna go full radical centrist here for a second


[10-Nov-19 08:01 PM] Arvid#8335
but the millenial is just as bad.


[10-Nov-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
have you read and understood why people are saying "ok boomer"


[10-Nov-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
hint: it's not ageism


[10-Nov-19 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
@Arvid


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] ononim#8141
ehhh


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ok boomer is mroe intended as an end of conversation because older people refuse to lsiten to younger people;s arguements


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] ononim#8141
some people are indeed doing it in a dumb way


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
MILLENIALS ARE KILLING FABRIC SOFTENER


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
MILLENIALS ARE KILLING MARRIAGE


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
MILLENIALS ARE KILLING HOT DOGS


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
MILLENIALS ARE KILLING CASUAL DINING


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just people being tired of trying to explain things and giving up


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
millennials :reppy:


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
and the response is


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why bother explaining how things are different


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
🆗 boomer


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They never listen


[10-Nov-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MILLENIALS ARE KILLING THE YACHT GOLD INDUSTRY


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They put Millennials down


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's ceasing to put up a fight


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
two L's, 2 N's


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ok Boomer, whatever you say"


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
> 2 N's


[10-Nov-19 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
get down


[10-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think if there were any actual discrimination lawsuit over it it wouldn't be hard to defend


[10-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
By explaining what it really means


[10-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
typical boomers, trying to make themselves the victim


[10-Nov-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not an ageist slur, it;s a dismissal and older people fucking hate it because it;s exactly what they;ve been doing for 2decades now


[10-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
thanks boomer, very cool


[10-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The younger people I see who hate it are funny


[10-Nov-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
ok boomer


[10-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers are not going to help you because you defend them


[10-Nov-19 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
neither will anyone else


[10-Nov-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f5f09a300d394900a1a88362238dbf77

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Leaks, erosion and holes: AP investigation counts aging dams
On a cold morning last March, Kenny Angel got a frantic knock on his door. Two workers from a utility company in northern Nebraska had come with a stark warning: Get out of your house. Just...
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[10-Nov-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d59c0d7882c14184a234c04213a31aa6

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Trump to confront Turkey about buying Russian defense system
NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump will confront Turkey's leader about his decision to buy a Russian air defense system when they meet this week at the White House amid strained relations...
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[10-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
```Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the U.S. government has cited national security grounds in refusing to include dams’ conditions in its inventory, which was updated most recently in 2018. ```


[10-Nov-19 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
:ponythinking:


[10-Nov-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6

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Boris Johnson called gay men 'tank-topped bumboys' and black peopl...
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has a long record of making offensive comments about women, ethnic minorities and gay people.
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[10-Nov-19 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
> Which is why he's a champion of Brexit supporters


[10-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
`Johnson also brought his admiration for "hot totty" into the office, pinning a Pirelli calendar to his desk, which featured nude photography, despite complaints from female colleagues.`


[10-Nov-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
big cringe, but other than that, you'd think he would be free to do whatever he wants with his personal workspace.


[10-Nov-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that he's the face of the uk right now, his creepy shenanigans reflect on the world stage


[10-Nov-19 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
world leaders, diplomats, and what have you come to meet in his office


[10-Nov-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like if zelenskyy put up porn posters in his office


[10-Nov-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Self-own https://i.redd.it/58rnrt8s5ux31.png

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[10-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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"So we're cyclists who work in porn"
"Yep"
"But we also respect the war dead"
"Sure do"
"So let's put a tweet out very respectful, in front of some poppies"
"Ok"
"#InRememberence #LestWeForget that sort of thing"
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[10-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(clicky)


[10-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[10-Nov-19 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We must remember our fallen cock destroyers


[10-Nov-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:upvote:


[10-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
no but seriously, what the hell?


[10-Nov-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porn actors for veteran support?


[10-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They died so you may come


[10-Nov-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure there are veterens who got into the porn acting business


[10-Nov-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
How else are they supposed to make ends meet


[10-Nov-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
VA won't pay them shit


[10-Nov-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
And they have crippling PTSD


[10-Nov-19 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, these are UK porn actors


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also the whistleblower's name is supposedly out there, only a matter of time before Trump tweets it out along with calls to destroy their life


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Irrelevant at this point


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(I mean, he already said he should be executed)


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not irrelevant


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I know it is, in an objective world


[10-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's not where we are


[10-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS and that entire sphere will concentrate exclusively on them


[10-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If the whistleblower isn't a white christian boy scout, life long republican within a family of cops and firemen and military, then clearly the entire impeachment is a sham regardless of everything else


[10-Nov-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans will treat it as if destroying the whistleblower is the vampire;s stake to this impeachment


[10-Nov-19 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All the testimonies and evidence and the (edited) transcript itself won't mean anything because the guy that blew the whistle will be attacked


[10-Nov-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans dont really have a defense for any of Trump's crimes, so instead they will go into witness destruction mode


[10-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is allowed to criticize him


[10-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's simple as that


[10-Nov-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any witnesses, any whistle blowers will be thrown under the bus and intimidated before they can reach the stand


[10-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Treascair#7785
meanwhile, you've got other witnesses testifying, with unimpeachable credentials, going "yeah, about that bus, think you're a quart low on oil.  Don't think I'll be under that, sorry"


[10-Nov-19 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
stone toss
pebble throw
mineral position change
deposit dissemination
gravel relocation


[10-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Forget unmasking the whistleblower


[10-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to see him unmasked


[10-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You just know he works as a storyboarder on some show with a minority main character


[10-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And he's around people who are gay and women all day


[10-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just seething


[10-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Treascair#7785
... what?


[10-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
stonetoss.


[10-Nov-19 09:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/10/trump-crimes-impeachment.html

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New Republican Defense Of Trump: He Commits Crimes All The Time
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX) took the new Republican defense of Trump for a test drive by saying that Trump publicly engages in wrongdoing all the time.
https://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/trump-head-in-hands.jpg


[10-Nov-19 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
how convenient


[10-Nov-19 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought the defense was he was too dumb


[10-Nov-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He shouldn;t go to prison, after all what;s a little bank robbery between friends!"


[10-Nov-19 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We rob banks all the time! There's no need for jail! its a perfectly normal thing to do!"


[10-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/469787-johnson-dismisses-trump-officials-testimony-as-just-their

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Johnson dismisses testimony from White House officials contradicti...
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) on Sunday dismissed testimony from current and former White House officials that contradicted President Trump, saying it was “just their impression” of the situation.
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[10-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't this the guy who talked directly to Sondland about this


[10-Nov-19 09:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Anyone heard of F.I.R.E.  financial independence retire early? Basically live like a college student from 20 until you are like 40 then retiring or getting a job with short hours.


[10-Nov-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/dugbg1/hong_kong_cop_pours_water_to_put_out_candles/

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[10-Nov-19 09:30 PM] Opponent#3498
`live like a college student from 20 until you are like 40`


[10-Nov-19 09:30 PM] Opponent#3498
what is 'living like a college student' exactly?


[10-Nov-19 09:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Busy full-time + part-time, and getting only part-time pay?


[10-Nov-19 09:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cut back on expenses to live cheaply so you can put money into savings accounts so in the future the accumulated interest on those accounts provide a living income on their own. You're eating ramen and drinking water to bank everything you make and don't need to spend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_movement

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FIRE movement
The FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement is a lifestyle movement whose goal is financial independence and retiring early. The model became particularly popular among millennials in the 2010s, gaining traction through online communities via information shared i...


[10-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember reading about this but not with that name


[10-Nov-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was about a lawyer who makes 190k a year but lives on ramen and water because he wants to retire at 50


[10-Nov-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a movement for people with higher incomes basically. I am not a higher income earner, everything I make is spent basically immediately to pay for expenses on life.


[10-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have millennials killed the break room yet


[10-Nov-19 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's still there where I work


[10-Nov-19 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
If anything we take long breaks


[10-Nov-19 09:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're given fifteen but it's not uncommon for us to stretch it out to twenty or more


[10-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Haven't seen anything from boomers going "wow we give them a pool table and let them bring dogs to work, but they hate them and just want higher pay!"


[10-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I meant


[10-Nov-19 09:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There was a guy on BBC talking about living in a van with a maggot farm for food.


[10-Nov-19 09:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're on our feet too much while working to want to play pool though, as soon as we get back there we sit the fuck down and don't move until it's time to get up, shit-talking just about everything.


[10-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what pisses me off more is people who get mass amounts of smoke breaks and then when i take 5 because i;m exhausted i get yelled at because i;m not a smoker


[10-Nov-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck walmart


[10-Nov-19 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://i1.wp.com/aristocratsofthesoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/baby_boomers.png

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[10-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Pretty#9306
Elections today in Spain (again), two years ago the nationalist far-right was non-existent, 0 seats, today they got ~15% of the votes, third strongest party by a big margin


[10-Nov-19 10:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Far-right is mad they can't all gather at francos grave and stroke eachother.


[10-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Smoke breaks should be destroyed.


[10-Nov-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
work forbid people with a physically demanding job get a 5 minute water break


[10-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[10-Nov-19 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
```Smoke breaks should be destroyed.```


[10-Nov-19 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah well, that gonna go about as well as prohibition.


[10-Nov-19 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
what should be killed is tobacco lobby


[10-Nov-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
The tobacco industry/lobby was already dealt a pretty significant blow. They can't advertise and the numbers of smokers have been declining until the Juul came out


[10-Nov-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
do that. equalise tobacco with pot in that it's a thing one does in their own time and not on the job


[10-Nov-19 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
good.


[10-Nov-19 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile, effective coup in Bolivia https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1193651665330737152?s=19

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The Wiphala flag is lowered by coup agents in Bolivia's Legislative Assembly and at other buildings, while at the same time extremists kneel before the Bible. https://t.co/74khr6xe7u
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[10-Nov-19 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/halaljew/status/1193654843581325312?s=19

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The Wiphala flag represents the indigenous people of the region— Evo Morales gave the flag equal status to the Bolivian national flag in 2009. Coup supporters are now tearing it down.

I think that tells you everything you need to know about the coup plotters and their s...
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[10-Nov-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Nov-19 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/jonleeanderson/status/1193633440521838592?s=19

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A friend of Evo's just called to say that he has not resigned, that it's "a coup," that Argentina's Macri govn't, still in power, is refusing to let Evo to fly there; that those closest to him are asking for political asylum wherever possible. Predicts more violence. What ...
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[11-Nov-19 12:05 AM] ononim#8141
**UH OH**


[11-Nov-19 12:07 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-impeachment-testimony-secret-notes-8a2f8417-67f3-4a8c-9693-643ff347ede9.html

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John Bolton, a prolific note taker, is the impeachment inquiry's b...
People around the president say they are worried about what notes Trump's former national security adviser has kept.
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[11-Nov-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Nov-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Nov-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man


[11-Nov-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The shit boomers believe


[11-Nov-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"This ISIS fighter is young and clearly white, it must clearly actually be Greta Thurnberg"


[11-Nov-19 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/10/trump-crimes-impeachment.html

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New Republican Defense Of Trump: He Commits Crimes All The Time
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX) took the new Republican defense of Trump for a test drive by saying that Trump publicly engages in wrongdoing all the time.
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[11-Nov-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie they're advancing the prayer


[11-Nov-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
All the way to the end


[11-Nov-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
"And if I did... You deserved it"


[11-Nov-19 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point republican defense strategy might as well be to dab and say "ok millenial"


[11-Nov-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49200241

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Trump withdraws pick for US intelligence boss
John Ratcliffe's name was withdrawn after criticism from both parties that he was under-qualified.
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[11-Nov-19 02:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/people-who-started-caravan-fires-3515159

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Warning of ‘risk to people’s lives’ after multiple caravan fires
Individuals have been urged not to try and implement change regarding housing issues
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[11-Nov-19 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-diplomats/for-u-s-diplomats-public-impeachment-hearings-could-be-catharsis-and-maybe-a-circus-idUSKBN1XK0HF

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For U.S. diplomats, public impeachment hearings could be catharsis...
On the first day of November, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo sent an intern...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191110&t=2&i=1450645380&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFA90HB


[11-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) the image of your defense scenario makes me warm and tingly inside.


[11-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
the circle would be complete.


[11-Nov-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[11-Nov-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.paginasiete.bo/nacional/2019/11/10/el-mas-siembra-caos-terror-en-la-paz-el-alto-237038.html

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El MAS siembra caos y terror en La Paz y El Alto - Diario Pagina Siete
Seguidores de Evo Morales atacan casas particulares y saquean negocios.
https://www.paginasiete.bo/u/fotografias/fotosnoticias/2019/11/10/289545.jpg


[11-Nov-19 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Riots breaking out over the ongoing coup in Bolivia


[11-Nov-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imma have to read up on all this shit


[11-Nov-19 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bolivia wasn't on my radar of "shit going down" this year


[11-Nov-19 04:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Evo Morales - wins re-election


[11-Nov-19 04:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Opposition - cries foul


[11-Nov-19 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
One observer saying yes, the other no


[11-Nov-19 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wins or "wins"


[11-Nov-19 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Evo declares he's stepping down. Tonight an arrest warrant was pulled for him


[11-Nov-19 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
The opposition party has declared they would rather not have observers in the coming new elections


[11-Nov-19 04:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
The interim president has been very wish-washy and said basically nothing in an interview that was so off-topic for so long they just killed the broadcast because she was saying less than nothing.


[11-Nov-19 04:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile there's a large number of peasant and indigenous militias camped out in the capital, and things are getting spicey.


[11-Nov-19 04:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
I just heard the Mexican embassy in Bolivia is now surrounded and in a practical state of siege.


[11-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
welp


[11-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ELSEWHERE ON THIS WONDERFUL PLANET
https://twitter.com/ic409/status/1193692341879496705

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#HKPoliceMurderer are performing their duties. https://t.co/PzGlAKbtHn
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[11-Nov-19 04:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
There are months where decades happen


[11-Nov-19 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or rather, “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”

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[11-Nov-19 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
thank you pappi lenin


[11-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was recently made aware of how surface level Chinese nationalism is


[11-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An American sees an American flag on a can of beer and gives it no more than a second of thought


[11-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People in the PRC are conditioned to see an equivalent as the defense of the country itself


[11-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why even a kids movie made by Americans that had a map in the background with Chinese claims was a major source of pride


[11-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon Evo is a native


[11-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not buddy-buddy with the US like his predecessor


[11-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that 10+ point win didn't count.


[11-Nov-19 10:57 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YyKCWKxBjI

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[11-Nov-19 11:11 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCY_ReFRT8o&feature=youtu.be

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The Grayzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCY_ReFRT8o&feature=youtu.be
The Grayzone's Anya Parampil debunks Bolivian coup myths in Al Jaz...
The Grayzone's Anya Parampil took over an Al Jazeera interview to provide a point-by-point rebuttal of major myths surrounding the coup in Bolivia and placed...
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[11-Nov-19 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
US government-funded organisations enforce US government policies. Plot twist of a century, no doubt.


[11-Nov-19 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/pam-pam-pam-shooting-of-protester-marks-step-up-in-hong-kong-violence-idUSKBN1XL00W

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'Pam! Pam! Pam!': Shooting of protester marks step up in Hong Kong...
Hong Kong police shot and critically wounded a protester and a man was set on fi...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191111&t=2&i=1450901279&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAA0VR


[11-Nov-19 12:41 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's China's best interests to escalate and make an excuse for the army 'peacekeeping operation'. And then simply forget to ever leave.


[11-Nov-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then "accidentally" ground the hong kong populace into fine meat paste and replace thme with "normal" *hong kong* citizens from the mainland


[11-Nov-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/11/donald-trump-jr-walks-out-of-triggered-book-launch-after-heckling-from-supporters

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Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling ...
Event at University of California is cut short amid anger at his refusal to take questions from the audience
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[11-Nov-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I guess you could say he was triggered


[11-Nov-19 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
```At first, Trump and Guilfoyle tried to ignore the discontent, which originated with a fringe group of America Firsters who believe the Trump administration has been taken captive by a cabal of internationalists, free-traders, and apologists for mass immigration.```


[11-Nov-19 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[11-Nov-19 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
:dab:


[11-Nov-19 12:50 PM] Opponent#3498
everything about this is beautiful.


[11-Nov-19 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the right is really bad at making scary propoganda to anyone but the wealthy

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[11-Nov-19 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
financial stability is apparently a horrifying concept


[11-Nov-19 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
this picture is so good, in fact, that I wonder if it's fake.


[11-Nov-19 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
cause if it's not, it's the ultimate self-own


[11-Nov-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Infrustructure is scary! We need to let buildings degrade and fall appart because taxes are bad!"


[11-Nov-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6d8ae551fb884371a2a592ed85a74426

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After push from Perry, backers got huge gas deal in Ukraine
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Two political supporters of U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry secured a potentially lucrative oil and gas exploration deal from the Ukrainian government soon after Perry...
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[11-Nov-19 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
```As Trump’s energy secretary, Perry has flown around the globe to push for U.S. exports of liquefied natural gas, which he calls “Freedom Gas.”```


[11-Nov-19 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
freedom toilet paper when


[11-Nov-19 02:57 PM] Opponent#3498
```As Ukraine sought economic and security support from the U.S. and other Western democracies, those countries pressed it to put in place a more open and transparent process for awarding oil and gas exploration rights on state land.```


[11-Nov-19 02:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it's so sweet of them to care so much about us, isn't it.


[11-Nov-19 02:57 PM] Opponent#3498
after all, they know how to abuse their own 'open and transparent processes' better than the local power structures.


[11-Nov-19 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
```Despite the lower upfront investment, the selection board gave the Americans higher scores for technical expertise and overall financial resources, according to the document reviewed by AP.```


[11-Nov-19 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, with the ability to dig into bottomless US Foreign Affairs coffers, I'd wager this assesment was even true.


[11-Nov-19 03:03 PM] Opponent#3498
```Roman Opimakh, a commission member who is the head of the State Service of Geology and Subsoil of Ukraine, said the government was looking for foreign investment, particularly U.S., and the board considered that as a factor. He said it’s an advantage if a company is well-connected in Washington but added that he saw no indication that U.S. officials influenced the process.```


[11-Nov-19 03:03 PM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[11-Nov-19 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
then again.


[11-Nov-19 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
if in return for rolling over for US we get continued support and protection against Russia, it's worth it.


[11-Nov-19 03:05 PM] Opponent#3498
US tends to take things by force when soft diplomatic approach isn't feasible.


[11-Nov-19 03:05 PM] Opponent#3498
so this is the vastly better outcome.


[11-Nov-19 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/first-3-trump-impeachment-public-witnesses-are-too-credible-gop-attack-republican-strategist-says-1470911

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First 3 Trump impeachment public witnesses are too credible for GO...
Republicans "are going to try and discredit the witnesses. But as Sam Stein said, they are unimpeachable witnesses," Susan Del Percio said
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[11-Nov-19 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Hasn't stopped them before


[11-Nov-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/d8f6zodgg1y31.jpg

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[11-Nov-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/business/abigail-disney-ok-boomer-trnd/index.html

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Disney heiress tells fellow boomers who are offended by the phrase...
Abigail Disney said Gen Z's resentment toward Boomers is "understandable," and older people are becoming "less relevant every day."
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[11-Nov-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3037135/shots-fired-hong-kong-anti-government-protesters-cause

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16 hours of violence in Hong Kong continue with Mong Kok unrest
Chaos continues in shopping hub as a man is beaten up and a fire started on the road. Elsewhere, pockets of violence erupt.
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[11-Nov-19 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, a guy advances right into traffic cop, who waves a gun in his face. It couldn't end up any other way.


[11-Nov-19 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/11/20958976/uber-ceo-dara-khosrowshahi-saudi-arabia-murder-jamal-khashoggi-serious-mistake

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[11-Nov-19 05:53 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Nov-19 05:54 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Nov-19 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
you vs the guy she keeps telling not to worry about


[11-Nov-19 06:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is ageism prohibited? Because that means they can ban for boomer memes...


[11-Nov-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
if it isn't yet, it will be.


[11-Nov-19 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
"ok boomer" isn't ageism


[11-Nov-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s being called ageism because it;s being used int he same way thye used to shut millenials down and they canlt stand it


[11-Nov-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
These arent normal old people calling it agiest either, it;s people like politicians and news agencies who hate ebing disagreed with and having their tactics used against them


[11-Nov-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a bit like managing to use the "because i love you" shutdown against a parent, to your parents it would feel bizarrely wrong that you managed to use their own shutdown against them


[11-Nov-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well. 'Hate speech' concept was always used against the right and the establishment in general


[11-Nov-19 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
now they get their chance to use it themselves.


[11-Nov-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shoudl start syaing the N word if they;re goign to compare boomer to it


[11-Nov-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because your arguement falls flat if you;re comparing one word to the other and refusing to use the other because it;s bad while constantly saying the former


[11-Nov-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
why would it be a comparison?


[11-Nov-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's what it;s being compared to


[11-Nov-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
it shouldn't be.


[11-Nov-19 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's perfectly capable of being prohibited on it's own


[11-Nov-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
literally companies and people have been comparing using "ok boomer" to using the n word


[11-Nov-19 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's either objective, i.e. ageism, or contextual, i.e. hate speech


[11-Nov-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the whole arguement


[11-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
people are fetishising specific words and seem to have largely lost the capability of arguing more broadly. Shame.


[11-Nov-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean litterally their whole arguement is that it;s the age version of the n word and that;s why thye want it banned


[11-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. This is pretty pathetic.


[11-Nov-19 06:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico-cartel-ambush-american-father-leaving-country-wife-sons-killed

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Mexico cartel ambush: American father whose relatives were killed ...
An American father whose family members were killed in a brutal ambush attack in northern Mexico last week says he is leaving the country because “you don’t get justice too much in Mexico.”
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[11-Nov-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the whole ok boomer thing started because they blamed millenials for killing industries and then shut us down when we tried to explain to them why these industries were dying in the first place and why we can;t afford anything.


[11-Nov-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it's easier to make a scapegoat out of a younger generation than to try fixing anything gone wrong


[11-Nov-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the broader arguement to make is that generations should be coming together to solve these issues with eachother rather than arguing and throttling eachother, but that would be a major obstacle for the rich who need this fued to continue


[11-Nov-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
so, they blamed millenials for killing industries, and that deserves a response... how?


[11-Nov-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
things like diamond industry aren't relevant in most people's lives


[11-Nov-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it's self-evident


[11-Nov-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
I must be missing something here again.


[11-Nov-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It isn't self evident to them


[11-Nov-19 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In the US, you could flunk out of high school, get a blue collar job, buy a 4 room house and car, and retire in your 50s


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the corporations who run the diamond industry dont see it that way, they see young people not buying diamonds because they cant afford them, and their assumption is that the young folk are just hoarding the loot for themselves


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest of the world had very different experience Tea :D


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And have money to spare


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly this is a very american problem


[11-Nov-19 06:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But the OK Boomer things mainly concerns the anglosphere, US particularly


[11-Nov-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when we talk about the right, we dont mean the ukranian right, or the polish right, we mean the american right


[11-Nov-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the american boomers


[11-Nov-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the american millenials


[11-Nov-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has a very different view on things due to how post world war 2 played out for us


[11-Nov-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this dips into other countries but not as deeply as it does for america


[11-Nov-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has also had a contridictory issue with generations


[11-Nov-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
millenials were praised as the upstart generation, the key to the future! and when it came time for us to act on this, we got shut down at every turn by older people saying we were too young to understand the problems we were facing ourselves.


[11-Nov-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We were told if we went to college, got jobs, and worked hard, we would be taken seriously and live fulfilling lives. instead what we got was a dying world of climate change, expensive everything, unaffordable housing markets, resource shortages, and rampant homelessness


[11-Nov-19 06:51 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Nov-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
needless to say it gets a bit frustratign when you brign these points up and then get shutdown by the people who told you about your great future.


[11-Nov-19 06:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/sebagandara/status/1193880029891088384

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La Wiphala fue reconocida como símbolo patrio en la Constitución de 2009, promulgada por @evoespueblo. Esa Constitución transformó a Bolivia en Estado Plurinacional. Nunca antes los indigenas tuvieron tantos derechos. Con ustedes la policía boliviana... https://t.co/r...
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[11-Nov-19 06:52 PM] ononim#8141
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Bolivia coup backers are burning the Wiphala flag, an symbol of Indigenous resistance. This is more than symbolic. These violent, racist groups want to rollback the historic gains made by Indigenous people. #thisisacoup 

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[11-Nov-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e9d2546253f44b529e139a41e1ed439f

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Myanmar accused at UN court of genocide against Rohingya
THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Myanmar was accused Monday of genocide at the U.N.'s highest court for its campaign against the country's Rohingya Muslim minority, as lawyers asked the International...
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[11-Nov-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Nov-19 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the alliance of globalized nationalists


[11-Nov-19 07:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
national globalism


[11-Nov-19 07:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
as it sometimes happens with western nazis praising Xi Jinping for defending an "ethnically harmonious society"


[11-Nov-19 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, another China-bordering nation, with muslim genocide


[11-Nov-19 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
business as usual


[11-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Yuri#4154
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/republican-thornberry-impeachment-ukraine-trump-he-does-this-all-the-time.html

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Republican: You Can’t Impeach Trump for a Crime He Does ‘All t...
The well-known legal principle that crimes can’t be prosecuted if they’re admitted in public.
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[11-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Yuri#4154
:bigbrain:


[11-Nov-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
yikes.


[11-Nov-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they;re doing the legal equivalent of dabbing now?


[11-Nov-19 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
dabbing and tap dancing over the constitution


[11-Nov-19 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tap dabbing


[11-Nov-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone knows you cant be arrested for robbing banks if you do it atleast once a week


[11-Nov-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then it;s not a crime, it;s just consistancy


[11-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's local tradition.


[11-Nov-19 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
wat


[11-Nov-19 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
indeed urinals are very political


[11-Nov-19 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i'm personally very pro-urinal


[11-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
oh, wrong channel


[11-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
meant to post that in #general-discussion


[11-Nov-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[11-Nov-19 08:48 PM] Opponent#3498
```THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — In a legal victory for Kyiv, the United Nations’ highest court ruled Friday that it has jurisdiction in a case brought by Ukraine alleging that Russia breached treaties on terrorist financing and racial discrimination in eastern Ukraine and Crimea.```


[11-Nov-19 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah but uh


[11-Nov-19 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what will this change


[11-Nov-19 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Putin can just ignore it tbh


[11-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"We are working on it"


[11-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
@everyone


[11-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I got distracted, that's exactly what I wanted to say.


[11-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
Russia always ignored whatever international 'courts' and 'opinions' were.


[11-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
people will waffle and talk, in some 5 years there will be a verdict of 'utmost concern' and Russia will ignore it. The end.


[11-Nov-19 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the united nation dishes out sentences but won;t enforce thme to save their lives


[11-Nov-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
"And if I did... You deserved it"


[11-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://ipvm.com/reports/hikvision-uyghur

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Hikvision Markets Uyghur Ethnicity Analytics, Now Covers Up
Hikvision has marketed an AI camera that automatically identifies Uyghurs, only covering it up days ago after IPVM questioned them on it.
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[11-Nov-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent how much has the US political shitshow affected Зеленский


[11-Nov-19 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
like in terms of approval and media coverage


[11-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm gonna imagine "a lot"


[11-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He's a russian plant set to ruin relations with the US" to "He's Trump's spineless lackey" and nothing in between


[11-Nov-19 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
honestly, I don't know. Not really, as lately we've been hard focused on 'Steinmeyer formula' (special status for 'republics', 'democratics elections', etc, basicly Europe got tired of sanctions.)


[11-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
nationalists claim Zelensky betrayed us, they'd rather this thing last forever until Russia falls apart


[11-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
somehow.


[11-Nov-19 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
obviously, no sane person would support that.


[11-Nov-19 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll read up on it and get back to you on this, actually.


[11-Nov-19 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
got me curious too.


[11-Nov-19 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon those opinions are popular too, especially the first one.


[11-Nov-19 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
like, his line about 'yeah, I wish our EU allies would help us more too' was interpreted as a grave insult to said allies that jeopardised the 'war' effort


[11-Nov-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
EU needs to get their shit together and mobilize a military


[11-Nov-19 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
seems like the US is not going to protect them from anything anymore


[11-Nov-19 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time EU does, US freaks out that they're not just mass buying US weapons and instead using EU weapons


[11-Nov-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah well the US is no longer in the picture of defending the EU


[11-Nov-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
It only defends Russia


[11-Nov-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-politician-sid-miller-jokes-veterans-day-parade-organizers-should-lynched-1470981

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Texas politician suggests Veterans Day parade organizers should be...
Sid Miller, the Texas Agriculture Commissioner, told people to "lighten up" after making the offensive remarks.
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[11-Nov-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
It wasn't a joke


[11-Nov-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not funny


[11-Nov-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
And racists still can't admit they lost the civil war


[11-Nov-19 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Grow the fuck up you morons


[11-Nov-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans in america seem to get pissy whenever other countries buy weapons and oil from anyone who isnt america


[11-Nov-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is part of what started the tariff bullshit in the first place


[11-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sons of Traitors"


[11-Nov-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then one country tried to buy oil from iran and trump became livid and tried to goad iran into war with america


[11-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being proud that your ancestors caused a war that killed hundreds of thousands


[11-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolutely fuck off


[11-Nov-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sid miller can choke ont he confederate flag


[11-Nov-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They shouldn't be recognized as veterans


[11-Nov-19 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These people should have a deep, deep shame about their ancestors


[11-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And should be reminded of that shame constantly


[11-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never let the wound heal


[11-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, that'll help things along nicely...


[11-Nov-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shouldnt be shamed, they should be forgotten


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast in terms of war veterens


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The vast majority of people fighting in the south were fighting because it's what their friends and family were doing and what the state was telling them to do


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're hardly veterans


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Veterans implies a war


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was mass insurrection


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pfff


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like they were all the sons of plantation owners with RSI from whipping so many slaves


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were fighting because they thought they would get to own slaves once it was said and done


[11-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That was the motivation


[11-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the lie plantation owners told them


[11-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That was the motivation of the politicians and generals


[11-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, that was the motivation for the common man too


[11-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The common man could barely read or understand there was a country beyond county lines


[11-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
propoganda was a thing too, the politicians and generals gave thme leis and reasons to fight while foisting the truth only to the upper classmen


[11-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
things liek "the north is coming to burn your hosues and kill your children"


[11-Nov-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
slavery was a motivation, but a lotof it was people under the impression that a mongolian style invasion was coming


[11-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people also did not travel far in those days, so rumors spread mroe easily since barely anyone could verify whether they were true or not


[11-Nov-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the true motivation for confederacy was slavery, however the common man did not know this


[11-Nov-19 10:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/OmeletteRed/status/1193982427007537152?s=20

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A Red Chilean 🇨🇱🇻🇪 (@OmeletteRed)
https://twitter.com/OmeletteRed/status/1193982427007537152?s=20
#nocoupinbolivia

The what the fuck is this?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

THIS MAN HAS BOTH HANDS MISSING, WHAT DID THEY FALL OFF?

THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN UNLEASHED IN BOLIVIA, THE MOST REACTIONARY BRUTAL SCUM OF THIS CONTINENT.

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[11-Nov-19 10:09 PM] ononim#8141
Graphic content from bolivia


[11-Nov-19 10:09 PM] ononim#8141
as in thorn hands level graphic


[11-Nov-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50375869

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White Helmets co-founder discovered dead in Turkey
The body of ex-British Army officer James Le Mesurier is found near his office in Istanbul.
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[11-Nov-19 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50367870

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New uncertainty in Spain as right makes gains
The ruling Socialists again fall short of a majority in the election with the far right coming third.
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[11-Nov-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

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Trump can't sue New York state in DC federal court to stop release...
A Trump-appointed federal judge decided Monday that President Donald Trump can't sue New York state officials in a Washington, DC, court at this time to stop the release of his tax returns to Congress.
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[11-Nov-19 10:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://mobile.twitter.com/wondermentalz/status/1193489177247133696?s=21

https://mobile.twitter.com/bojack70552409/status/1193812875049082880?s=21

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1193840620701437957

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[11-Nov-19 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
"The US is a feudal system where billionaires are not being held accountable by natural consequences. We largely have no choice but to use systems run by Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and Google, plus the petrochemical industry, the banking industry and a few others. Their customer service can be atrocious, and their business practices can be unethical because they know we can’t go anywhere else, and Washington won’t regulate them. Individuals are powerless and can fall through the cracks."


[11-Nov-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lets-get-rid-of-the-f-g-judges-anonymous-book-claims-trump-wanted-to-reduce-number-of-federal-judges

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'Let's get rid of the f---ing judges': Anonymous book claims Trump...
A new book by an anonymous Trump administration official claims the president instructed White House lawyers to draft a bill that would decrease the number of federal judges.
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[11-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/digitaldjeli/status/1193830072530145282

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[11-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean the judges he appoints basically are just rubber stamps


[11-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants to replace them with cronies faster.


[11-Nov-19 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Nov-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I browsed through the top of r/Conservative for the day


[11-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives live in a complete fantasy world


[11-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Every single problem they point out is either fabricated or insignificant


[11-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Their "fact checking" consists of memes of people being "owned"


[11-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
(on facebook)


[11-Nov-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-transit-cops-handcuff-detain-man-eating-sandwich-platform-n1079981

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California transit cops handcuff, detain man for eating sandwich o...
BART General Manager Bob Powers said he has seen the viral video and the police response and that he was "disappointed" with how the situation unfolded.
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[11-Nov-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
It's conspiracy nutcase level shit and moops arguments


[11-Nov-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
conservatism depends on delusions to keep itself afloat


[11-Nov-19 11:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's inevitable


[11-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to delude the populace into believing that the ruling class is superior.


[11-Nov-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Nov-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
(top of day)


[11-Nov-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Nov-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
E3 (moops) https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/11/elizabeth-warrens-life-narrative-will-not-hold-up-to-scrutiny-i-can-guarantee-you-that/

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[11-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```In the commercial, the offensive line is said after a Texan suggests trying out a salsa that was made in New York, as opposed to using product that is homegrown```


[11-Nov-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
E4 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/stink-to-high-heaven-graham-warns-the-whistleblower-is-likely-a-deep-state-friend-of-schiff

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‘Stink to high heaven’: Graham warns that the whistleblower is...
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina claimed revelations that the whistleblower could be from the “deep state” may change the public’s outlook on impeachment.
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[11-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
nice to see we're not the only ones with potentially extremely offensive commercials :D


[11-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
especially in the 90ies...


[11-Nov-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
70s commercials had some really raunchy shit


[11-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Of course back then it was all implication


[11-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Now they can pretty much show you boobs on TV


[11-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Treascair#7785
the old Carl's Jr. commercials come to mind...


[11-Nov-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't get why the US still sexualizes breasts so much


[11-Nov-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
It's one of those things that's going to lead to gender spats for _at least_ another few generations


[11-Nov-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Industry.


[11-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it.


[11-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes advertizing and workplace discrimination easier.


[11-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would capitalism want equality?


[11-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Equality is harder to control.


[11-Nov-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
equality (of poor men and women) may make them easier to control (by the ruling class)


[11-Nov-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nope


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
since fewer gender-specific things are required to make them useful for capitalism


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Control is about leveraging differences to turn people against each other


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you make poor people all equal, they unite against you


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's much better to hav them very fragmented


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, capitalism wants second-class citizens for certain jobs


[11-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
it wants female workers with lower expectations


[11-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wants a designated type of person to be a secretary


[11-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Makes everything easier on the capitalists


[11-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't want a secretary that could turn around and become the boss


[11-Nov-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
that makes it harder to be corrupt


[11-Nov-19 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
If women could go around with nipples free in public in every state and on live TV, it would make advertizing and uncomfortable workplace environments harder to set up.


[11-Nov-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://thedailybolivarian.wordpress.com/2019/11/11/civil-war-in-bolivia/

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Civil War in Bolivia?
“Mesa, Camacho, we want your head,” shout a group of Evo supporters as they burn down a police station in El Alto. Bolivia now has no president and there is a power vacuum left by the r…
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[11-Nov-19 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's get lit boyes


[11-Nov-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
What are you going to do when Karen in accounting isn't getting weird stares from everyone?


[11-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then she asks for a promotion and everyone's like "sure"


[11-Nov-19 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrzIEmLukk

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[11-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then as soon as she's promoted, she reveals all the shady shit you did and RIP


[11-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, with that over


[11-Nov-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just pakk a room full of white women and say that there's no such thing as discrimination anymore


[11-Nov-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
People then start asking why you refuse to hire blakk people ever


[12-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie you're really reaching now :/


[12-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
like desperation levels of reaching


[12-Nov-19 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1193923239963222016

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You can shoot me, but you’ll have to kill us all.”

[pause for applause]

Earpiece guy: “No one’s fucking clapping, you ridiculous monolith of dogshit. Fucking say something.”

“Something.”

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[12-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh jesus


[12-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/us/hospitals-lawsuits-medical-debt.html

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With Medical Bills Skyrocketing, More Hospitals Are Suing for Payment
As deductibles and co-pays grow, insured patients owe a larger share of their medical bills. More and more are being taken to court.
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[12-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deductibles are more common than ever, co-pays and deductibles are high, low-wage workers get offered higher deductibles


[12-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The court system with the way the law is has no choice but to garnish wages


[12-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
to me, the idea of having to sue for payment to actually get payed is extremely weird. Especially with people being _reluctant_ to do it apparently?????


[12-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
how the fuck does that even work


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a person gets hit by a bus


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
gets taken to the ER


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
gets their leg fixed


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's $50,000


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their health insurance says the first $10,000 a year is on them


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I get this.


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
pays for $35,000 of the $40,000 after


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The person owes $15,000


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you think


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
it's fair enough, welcome to America.


[12-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the hospital can just like


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
put them in a fukking cage?


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it lets them go


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CXSKHRyhL8

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Youtube Is Broken: A Markiplier & Quartering Angry Rant
Whether its large channels continuing to be stolen or Youtube banning it's own users for using their own emotes something has to change.
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[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they go home


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
their daughter needs to eat


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well what's the point of setting a price so high nobody is able to pay?


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they buy food for their daughter


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they get the leaking roof fixed


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
court summons


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
you're trying for pity again


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
sorry, no.


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judge says all their wages are going to the $16,000 they owe


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk you


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[12-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They now hav no wages


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all going to the hospital


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is a realistic American scenario


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```well what's the point of setting a price so high nobody is able to pay?```


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you get it?


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's debt


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's forever debt


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will never pay that $16,000


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well everything is forever debt though, isn't it. US is built on credit system.


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's *the point*


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
some debt isn't forever debt


[12-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that's a problem to the debt collectors


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you make a man pay off his debt, you get a big profit once


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you make a man never pay off his debt, you get it forever.


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider the difference between hunting and killing poor people for sport


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/469957-ex-massachusetts-gov-deval-patrick-mulling-2020-run-report

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Ex-Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick mulling 2020 run: report
Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (D) is mulling a 2020 White House run, The New York Times reported on Monday.
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[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
in theory, in practice if you have to sue for every payment, it's impractical.


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hooking them up to a machine that constantly takes away their excess blood


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a vampire


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking stop


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not impractical


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you sue once


[12-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get money forever


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the lawsuit barely costs anything


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav lawyers on standby


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also you can buy and sell debt :]


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
okay. Then why people are 'reluctant' to do it then?


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
reluctant to sue?


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
seems like a perfect system.


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hospitals are not.


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
the article you linked says they are.


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They sue out the wazoo now


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
is it lying?


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
or, were in a very recent past.


[12-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
cause I don't know what you count as 'now'.


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the very recent past, deductibles were less common


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the economy hadn't tanked


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The economy tanked, and then deductibles became much more common


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
what scope is very recent in this context then?


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The last 12 years


[12-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
2008 financial collapse, you know


[12-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly everything went to shit right as the health insurers got shittier


[12-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why we're in this mess today


[12-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
how are there more dem candidates


[12-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
11 years ago, the rug was pulled out from under the American middle and lower classes


[12-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav not recovered since


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when I am putting forward what seems like a crazy pity scenario, sorry but


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea is that insurance companies and hospitals don;t treat them as clients, they treat them as nest egg bank accounts to dip into


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's America if you make under 60 grand a year.


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hospitals aren't "reluctant" to sue


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just often got paid by middle class people before


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they don't


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
the middle class is now struggling to pay the bills


[12-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hospital bills come last


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it may seem like a very foreign concept to you, that someone would just not pay a bill


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but this is America, for the last 40 years


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people get by by just not paying half the shit they owe


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that has ballooned in the last decade


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the fukk else do you survive when wages are stagnant and prices for basic commodities rising?


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to pay rent or you get kikked out


[12-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and become homeless, and die


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't magically get banished from society when you don't pay a doctor's bill


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s getting harder to pay off houses


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rent at this point costs as much as a mortgage


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but a judge can later go and say LOOK LOOK HE HAS MONEY GRAB IT


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And send repo men to collect your furniture


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and take away all the wages you earn


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you can't afford rent so you get evicted


[12-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and *then* you die.


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you take refuge in an abandoned subway where police commit murders for fun


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, making people unable to pay, but providing a service anyways is shitt for society


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT NOT FOR INSURERS


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
insurers make bank doing this


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those poor people are milked for every penny they can possibly earn


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More Dem candidates because Biden looks weak


[12-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is to hav a steady source of income: the poor's income.


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also these people don't really think they can be president, it's all just so they get a cabinet position


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor person manages to buy a car, suddenly the insurer's getting that car


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
the debt that piles up is worth way, way, way, way, way more than the surgery was


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In part because the original price charged is way inflated


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hospitals are not like a store


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not sell you products at a small markup


[12-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they sell you services, at thousands of times cost


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they put a lot of the money they do get into lawyers


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make sure that that money comes in


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is this stupid for society? Yes, god yes.


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
insurers, the evil geniuses of our time huh.


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's horrifically stupid.


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh...yes.


[12-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, mashing X to doubt.


[12-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you...know nothing of American healthcare?


[12-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I've heard persistent complaints about it.


[12-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter


[12-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
are you aware of what a deductible is?


[12-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or why more plans having them is a problem?


[12-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
percentage covered out of the pocket as a prerequisite for getting the insurance, from what I understand.


[12-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not percentage, absolute value


[12-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
from what you're saying, it's less 'out of pocket', more 'directly debt'


[12-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, $10,000 deductible says


[12-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the first $10,000 of health expenses must be paid out of pokket, period.


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Insurance only pays for what comes after that


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A co-pay, meanwhile, is percent of that insured for that comes out-of-pokket


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
right, so that's the difference. Okay.


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both of these are shitty


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I would imagine they would be.


[12-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deductible says that your insurance doesn't even BEGIN to pay anything until you've already been fukked over X amount


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Co-pay meanwhile is insidious


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
you think "well after that $10,000, the insurance will cover this major operation"


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The operation costs $100,000


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your co-pay is 20%


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's $20,000 out of pokket


[12-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you're paying $30,000 that year, for $110,000 of hospital expenses


[12-Nov-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
which costed the hospital $500 to do


[12-Nov-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you're also paying, each month, $1200 to your insurer


[12-Nov-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you are paying, in total


[12-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
$44,400 for services that costed the service provider $500 and were valued at $110,000


[12-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a year's salary


[12-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Opponent#3498
where does 1200/month come from? Maintaining insurance contract?


[12-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what you pay the insurer, yes


[12-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
to keep your insurance


[12-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder


[12-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the US spends over $10k per person per year on healthcare


[12-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
more than any other country


[12-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and has a lower life-expectancy than most countries that spend half that


[12-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you look at a breakdown, the US spends about normal per person per year on public healthcare spending


[12-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it spends *almost as much* on private healthcare spending


[12-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is unlike most countries


[12-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, that 2x comes from this whole insurance system


[12-Nov-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also pre-existing conditions! which is basically after you;ve paid all of that cost to the insurance company, they dump your ass to die because you were sick theother day or whatever excuse


[12-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is designed to keep people in debt to hospitals and insurers forever


[12-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pre-existing condition denial is currently illegal cause of the ACA


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are attempting to torpedo the ACA tho


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
well then, if it's this widespread, you're screwed and no Sanders will ever save you.


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of Sanders is to shove a knife deep in the insurance industry's throat


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
not to make some token "change for the sake of change" reforms


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well.


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The insurance industry HATED the ACA btw


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it managed to make it thru


[12-Nov-19 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we want a candidate who will rip these fuckers limb from fucking limb


[12-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The insurance industry wants Republicans to torpedo the ACA


[12-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
with plans like "high-risk pools"


[12-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
which say that if you hav any condition whatsoever, you lose access to affordable health insurance


[12-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead hav to pay like twice as much


[12-Nov-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
"affordable" being in heavy airquotes etc.


[12-Nov-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Health insurance is up there with rent and food as far as expenses


[12-Nov-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's whole campaign right now is based on the idea of actually fukking taxing rich people a little, so that poor people don't pay out the ass for healthcare.


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we're the country where diabetes medication can cost $10,000 a month


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because one CEO wanted to raise its cost


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
$1 to make


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
realistically all the taxes will just go fund the war with Urugai or something


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that ceo should be hung in the gallows


[12-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
but I guess you have to believe in _something_


[12-Nov-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to be hard to get Warren to fight Uruguay when everyone's screaming for Wall Street on a pike


[12-Nov-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to be hard as well for Trump to weather not only impeachment, but reelection with a blue Florida.


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left right now has every reason to be having conservatives put on fukking pikes


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
US conservatives aren't just assholes in private who think immigrants are bad


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are directly trying to make poverty worse


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and currently hav succeeded.


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
so you'll devolve into civil war and die, because the military will not support you


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
or just free for all and rip US


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military right now hates Trump


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
that will be fun to watch, at least.


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump is a goner.


[12-Nov-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he sold our interests to Turkey


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
but he's not your problem.


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is not gonna be some damn civil war


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
not THE problem anyway.


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is gonna be a political change


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note Virginia's recent elections


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav lost the suburbs


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ball is in their court for doing something violent/illegal to win


[12-Nov-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gop state levels are panicing


[12-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats finally doing what Republicans did for two decades


[12-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Playing locally


[12-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP has rewarded loyal white middle class families who voted for it with insurmountable debt, horrible flooding from climate change, and a criminal in the oval office.


[12-Nov-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trying to rig shit as fast as they can to prevent a flood


[12-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile GOP relies on the president and nothing else


[12-Nov-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
farmers fucking hate the gop right now


[12-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if Biden somehow wins and doesn't die in office early, the pressure will be on


[12-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Opponent#3498
so, the last, best hope of humanity in a specific country is a peaceful, gradual political change, with peasants asking for heads on pikes from one side, and the establishment with endless resources from the other.


[12-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resources are not endless


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize how this all happened


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We had rich fukkers pouring money into corruption for over 30 years


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
and you reached a breaking point. Understandable, in context.


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The horrible policies put in place because of that are causing anger to turn into votes


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
even crazy GOP gerrymandering couldn't keep them the House


[12-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
US doesn't respect votes in any other country. Do you really think that when push comes to shove, they would respect yours?


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the votes are no longer just compacent older folk, it;s pissed off young folk


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not feasible for the US as a whole to disregard votes


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
In other countries, we just send some CIA guys in


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and pissed off older folk


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
in our own country, that's very illegal and wouldn't work well to begin with


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're too fragmented for it


[12-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hav a gigantic bureaucracy that's relatively stable


[12-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP cannot just suddenly pretend it won an election


[12-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges wouldn't buy it, nor would the people that work for them


[12-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the Koch Brothers didn't change enuff in the time they ran rampant


[12-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well they're entirely creatively barren, so that isn't a concern.


[12-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be very difficult to prevent a tide of reform bills going thru congress in 2020


[12-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Democratic primary is being framed around wealth inequality


[12-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only Biden is trying to stop it and he's barely holding the lead


[12-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wall Street has indicated it haaaaates Warren and Bernie...yet they're the second and third frontrunners.


[12-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, every candidate's base prefers Warren second


[12-Nov-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile biden's eyes are literally bleeding from stress


[12-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
what happens when the candidates below her drop out of the race?


[12-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They keep getting replaced, apparently


[12-Nov-19 12:47 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1194011983332478976

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[12-Nov-19 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
Mexico providing 'protection'.


[12-Nov-19 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
well, desperate times I suppose.


[12-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie here's something I've been meaning to ask.


[12-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
can you describe what you expect the desired outcome of this whole affair to be?


[12-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
the _desired_ one. Hopes and dreams.


[12-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's difficult, I tend to be a realist


[12-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, realistic then.


[12-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I start tamping down hopes and dreams and get out the chainsaw of gutting people's aspirations the moment I think of things.


[12-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably the biggest ideal is the medicare-for-all plan being passed by 2021


[12-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho to bakk up a little, that requires Senate control, so likely 50-50 split with Dem VP deciding


[12-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders as P/VP would weaken the Senate, so Warren would need to be P, and VP might be Buttigieg


[12-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This plan would crush private insurance pretty hard.


[12-Nov-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for reforms that could happen alongside that, a big one would be a comprehensive bill on things like Net Neutrality, so the FCC alone couldn't be shitty whenever a Republican's in the presidency


[12-Nov-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably some big Consumer Protection act that would explicitly say it's illegal to, for instance, require repairs be done at specific vendors, or condition repair vendor access on certain things, and require transparency of what chemicals are involved with factories


[12-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
For foreign policy, meanwhile, Warren should utterly kill almost all tariffs, only retaining ones for sanctions reasons, and eliminate tho whole equal-country immigration quotas entirely


[12-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, legal immigration as a whole needs less types of visas, less requirements to meet them, and less power of the border patrol (get rid of 100 mile zone)


[12-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
what are those? Equal-country immigration.


[12-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
No one country is allowed to make up more than a certain percentage of all immigration done legally


[12-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
this means countries with large populations, and thus more aspiring immigrants, see almost all immigrants denied.


[12-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Waitlists for Indians to come over and move in with family are 30 years long...


[12-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And expected to increase with time


[12-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
eventually it'll reach a point where the average Indian would not be granted access to the US until after death by old age


[12-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is...retarded.


[12-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's what Trump's currently doing.


[12-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, every US citizen should hav free access to identification, that would need to be a big priority


[12-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And voter registration should be **abolished entirely**


[12-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a hugely wasteful unnecessary extra step of bureaucracy


[12-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure you would WANT indians to immigrate, considering their reputation as workers on world market...


[12-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's besides the point


[12-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whose sole purpose is to disadvantage younger people and children of immigrants from being able to vote, despite being citizens.


[12-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, further, we need some damn good anti-oligopoly laws


[12-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patents need to come down to 10 years


[12-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medical patents should be abolished.


[12-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Farmers shouldn't be punished for accidentally having patented corn grow because nearby farms leaked their patented corn


[12-Nov-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney;s stranglehold on the copyright system needs to fucking die with fire


[12-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Copyright should be 20 years and then file for extensions


[12-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
none of this bullshit where it's the author's life plus so many decades full stop


[12-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey Mouse should remain out of public domain so long as Disney is actually using it


[12-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but shit that's abandoned for 30 years should go public domain.


[12-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, YouTube needs to face legal penalties for its scummy practices


[12-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT


[12-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
COPPA and such need to be repealed


[12-Nov-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube shouldn't be penalized because of not being able to age gate


[12-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube should be penalized for fukking over content creators, not for being too open as a platform.


[12-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that act is cancer.


[12-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
quite literally, I think.


[12-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOSTA SESTA needs to be repealed


[12-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in general, any federal law targeting adult consensual prostitution should be repealed


[12-Nov-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk religious types for making the US a huge sex traffikking area by driving prostitution underground


[12-Nov-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, the DEA needs to take marijuana off schedule 1


[12-Nov-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the whole schedule system needs to based on scientific evidence, not political decisions


[12-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fundamentally stupid that "schedule 1" says "no medical use", meanwhile, it actually has such


[12-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Schedule 1 should be for actually serious drugs and not "hippies smoke this"


[12-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general drug use should only result in fines at worst.


[12-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sentencing as a whole needs to be reduced


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, my trademark defeatism aside, if there ever was a time to get all of this, it would be now.


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
10 years for like, everything, as a minimum, is stupid


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes...


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure how much of this is accomplishable in 8 years.


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe half of it.


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
when people are active and pushing for sweeping reforms.


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to need a lot of state-level pushes


[12-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
we need California to legalize prostitution, basically


[12-Nov-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(I guarantee California with legal prostitution would dry up support for FOSTA SESTA's nonsense, it'd just be such a huge conflict point between a state and the federal gov't, with the state clearly in the right economically and morally)


[12-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we realistically need some constitutional amendments to protect against another Trump


[12-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
abolish the electoral college


[12-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it easier to impeach


[12-Nov-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reduce campaign season and completely dismantle the current primary system


[12-Nov-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reduce immunity while in office in general.


[12-Nov-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disallow partisan drawing of election districts


[12-Nov-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Move much of the executive's agencies to the judiciary


[12-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make the president unable to do sweeping changes without congressional approval (no going to war with a random country just on his whims, no imposition of tariffs or approval of massive arms sales without congressional approval as well)


[12-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I could go on all night really


[12-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's a lot of the important stuff


[12-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Democracy is fixable, but it could take 30 years.


[12-Nov-19 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, that's more or less what I wanted to hear.


[12-Nov-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare is just the gigantic target because it's one of the main things about to destroy society etc.


[12-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism in general is causing all sorts of shit, but that's by far the biggest single thing.


[12-Nov-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If healthcare is no longer tied to employer, and unions are given more power again, then that fixes the common man's biggest problems fast.


[12-Nov-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a few large reforms on how money enters politics could start to shut down wall street's influence.


[12-Nov-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50352939

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What is a presidential faith adviser?
Televangelist Paula White-Cain is Trump's spiritual adviser and a controversial figure.
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[12-Nov-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woops i didnt realize this was a video


[12-Nov-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50381248 apparently this is politics now...

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Should politicians be allowed to wear hoodies?
A Quebec politician was pushed out of the provincial legislature because she wore a hoodie.
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[12-Nov-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no... casual wear, the horror


[12-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
who the fuck cares


[12-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
oh right


[12-Nov-19 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
boomers


[12-Nov-19 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also quebec so there's that too


[12-Nov-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a60820cc046c4d44bf91e384243dc318

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AP sources: Deval Patrick mulling Democratic White House run
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick is considering making a late run for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to two people with knowledge of his deliberations,...
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[12-Nov-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who?


[12-Nov-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d6af8a6ec74a4ec8bcb3ce973344b822

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Mulvaney to file his own impeachment lawsuit, lawyers say
WASHINGTON (AP) — White House acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney plans to file his own lawsuit over testimony in the House impeachment inquiry, withdrawing his bid to join a separate case filed...
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[12-Nov-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it possible to make stores list prices with tax through law? because not knowing the price of shit is gettign real old


[12-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
it's less effort (and therefore cheaper) to just show the listed price


[12-Nov-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure most other countries include taxes in the price though


[12-Nov-19 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
also it makes people less willing to buy stuff when the real price is shown


[12-Nov-19 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes me less willing to buy stuff when the real price is hidden because i end up short everytime


[12-Nov-19 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why tons of department stores do stuff like list a pair of pants that has a normal price of $20 as $40 and then say there's an eternal 50% off deal on the pants which lowers the price back to $20


[12-Nov-19 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe it would jsut be easier to find a genie and wish for a wallet that gives me exact change +tax on all purchses i make


[12-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sales and VAT tax should be abolished.


[12-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're regressive as fukk.


[12-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
they're also insanely complicated to implement at every level


[12-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrE-iSRKzZA

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OK Boomer, you don't deserve my hot doggeria
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[12-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/UglyGerry/status/1153661354462588929

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It's here. GERRY. A font created by your congressional districts. Log on to https://t.co/WkuVp7oDpu and use the font to tell congress how happy you are that your vote doesn't matter.
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[12-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/DavidNir/status/1156944256222793728

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@UglyGerry An alternate suggestion for Z—a single district! This was #LA04 for a brief while in the 1990s, represented by Dem Rep. Cleo Fields, until it was thrown out by the courts https://t.co/9uyk9CtuFv
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[12-Nov-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/470002-sean-spicer-eliminated-from-dancing-with-the-stars

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Sean Spicer eliminated from 'Dancing with the Stars'
Former White House press secretary Sean Spicer was eliminated from “Dancing with the Stars” Monday night.
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[12-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jr. was bragging about this today, no joke


[12-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If the Democrats can't get Sean Spicer off ‘Dancing with the Stars,’ how are they going to win 2020?"


[12-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*last week, but still


[12-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, he was a _contestant_?


[12-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought he was a host or a judge or something


[12-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scaramucci was on Big Brother for a bit


[12-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What coked up russian roulette survivor thought a balding, pudgy, 4yo loser like Spice would be a good contestant for... _anything_?


[12-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
4/40, same difference sorta


[12-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money, TSP


[12-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mooooneeeeey.


[12-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they probably thought the parody version of spicer from snl was the real one and thus invited him on the show


[12-Nov-19 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/015702afdb4d4fbf85cf5070cd2c6824

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US held record number of migrant kids in custody in 2019
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[12-Nov-19 12:52 PM] ononim#8141

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[12-Nov-19 12:52 PM] ononim#8141
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


[12-Nov-19 12:52 PM] ononim#8141
I wonder what may have caused that


[12-Nov-19 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://prospect.org/power/payday-lenders-suffer-rare-attack-of-honesty/

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Payday Lenders Suffer Rare Attack of Honesty
In Arizona, the industry has a bill that would block minimum wage increases, because when people don’t have money, they need short-term loans.
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[12-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim their financial report.


[12-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
Oct 23rd was their 3rd quarter report.


[12-Nov-19 01:46 PM] Opponent#3498
turned a loss from 2 previous quarters into a significant gain, against expectations. Part cost-saving, part legalise, they were able to count in money for ealier 'pre-order' sales for autopilot features.


[12-Nov-19 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
ok, riddle me this, Nebbie, Intexda. I've seen a conservative argument that increasing minimal wage would lead only to increased inflation with no real net value growth past the brief initial period.


[12-Nov-19 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
comment?


[12-Nov-19 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I simply lack the knowledge on the subject, but it seems reasonably sound.


[12-Nov-19 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, I thought maybe Tesla bought a plot of land in Bolivia but didn't have the mining rights just yet...


[12-Nov-19 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
it hasn't before


[12-Nov-19 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
what _is_ likely to lead to inflation is actually freeing poor people from debt


[12-Nov-19 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
just increasing the minimum wage won't do anything if that money is still being tied up in loan repayments


[12-Nov-19 02:24 PM] byte[]#2610
college loan forgiveness etc., medicare for all are likely to lead to a period of _vast_ hyperinflation because people will suddenly be absolved of their debts, and that money will then be available for spending in the economy


[12-Nov-19 02:27 PM] byte[]#2610
and since we're still living through the housing crisis you know nobody's buying houses with that extra money


[12-Nov-19 02:27 PM] byte[]#2610
at least not immediately


[12-Nov-19 02:27 PM] byte[]#2610
which is what that extra spending money would have _normally_ gone into


[12-Nov-19 02:29 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent


[12-Nov-19 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
right, thank you.


[12-Nov-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
a good way to mitigate that hyperinflation would be to also expand government housing assistance programs with government-backed low fixed interest mortgages


[12-Nov-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
and basically make it a no brainer to buy a house with the extra money


[12-Nov-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
in that way the extra money and the interest payments go directly into the government which can then use it to pay off its own debts


[12-Nov-19 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU

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[12-Nov-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470022-read-republicans-strategy-to-defend-trump-on-impeachment

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READ: Republicans strategy to defend Trump on impeachment
Republicans on the House committees conducting the ongoing impeachment inquiry unveiled their strategy to defend President Trump on Tuesday.
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[12-Nov-19 03:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh jeez they're going with that Ukraine conspiracy theory


[12-Nov-19 03:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The July 25 call summary "shows no conditionality or evidence of pressure."

Ukrainian "President (Volodymyr) Zelensky and President Trump have both said there was no pressure on the call."

"The Ukrainian government was not aware of the hold on U.S. assistance" during the July 25 call.

The security assistance hold was lifted on September 11."


[12-Nov-19 03:55 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Nov-19 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[12-Nov-19 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i can feel the video length weighing down on me just by looking at this picture


[12-Nov-19 07:02 PM] Opponent#3498
well, let's check him out then.


[12-Nov-19 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
...yeah, disappointment :/


[12-Nov-19 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/1194077472851144704?s=20

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my name is leon. i am eleven years old. i am living here in Bolivia [9] (/bəˈlɪviə/ (About this soundlisten)), officially the Plurinational State of Bolivia. please listen to the people there is not a coup happening here. you must believe me
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[12-Nov-19 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1194153593500315648

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So apparently a Spanish language hashtag defending the Bolivia coup is trending in Virginia, home of the CIA. 🤔 https://t.co/euIpujfD8z
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[12-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```This continual interference gave rise to the wry comment in Latin America that the safest place in the world is the U.S. because it is the only nation without an American embassy.```


[12-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not wrong.


[12-Nov-19 07:29 PM] ononim#8141
Man


[12-Nov-19 07:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh btw


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] ononim#8141
even if you think Morales government was bad


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the main organization that dominates the anti-Morales coalition in the ongoing coup


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the Falange or something iirc


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
was founded by Klaus Barbie


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
look him up


[12-Nov-19 07:30 PM] ononim#8141
Military "asking" a president to resign is a fucking coup


[12-Nov-19 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 well, yeah. This guy is the perfect example of just why US propaganda so actively pushed the idea that they won the war and killed all the nazis (as well as popularising the use of that word).


[12-Nov-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
totes democratic opposition guys, trust us


[12-Nov-19 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nothing to fear, no native tribes will be sumarily executed


[12-Nov-19 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1194067725456306176

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Just a normal, organic group of people posting their genuine feelings on social media. Not organized or coordinated at all.
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[12-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
the CIA's pretty bad at this


[12-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
russia was a lot less obvious at it in 2016


[12-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
probably because they did heck of a lot less.


[12-Nov-19 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
beep boop no coup


[12-Nov-19 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
requesting agreement


[12-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470079-poll-buttigieg-leads-democratic-field-in-iowa#

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South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg has surged to the front of the Democratic presidential field in Iowa, according t
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[12-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He knows about coming from behind

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[12-Nov-19 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
> If we impeach Trump, I think that technically means we’re interfering with Russian’s elections. 😂


[12-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I really think people overestimate Russia's impact on this.


[12-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a good meme, but realistically, it's US people who elected him. For a joke, or for the lesser of two evils maybe.


[12-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
which turns out to maybe be a good thing in the end, as it accelerates the dissatisfaction of the people.


[12-Nov-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
a lot of shit has gone wrong for US lately, this guy is simply the symbol of it all, much like a president is a symbol.


[12-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe something good will come out of this for you. Social reforms, reigning in neolib capitalism, easing the pressure on the world a little bit.


[12-Nov-19 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
but, see, something I don't understand. Take Bolivia, media is in perfect concert about that. Political leaders act as a well-oiled mechanism, those who are meant to support, support, those who are meant to condemn, condemn. Political capital's building, business as usual, talking heads talk while US interests are enforced. And yet this system seems to fail so hard when it comes to domestic affairs.


[12-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
and I don't understand why. In our age big data can give you the near-perfect answer for any question. The right words to say, the right imagery to show, the right actions to take. So why, then, it all looks so broken?


[12-Nov-19 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relative scale, stability/integrity, and built-ins


[12-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are asking why a giant country's coordinated efforts against an unstable shithole with no integrity and a bunch of built-in dictatorial propaganda machines that just need a slight settings change for a coup is going so easy, while the country vs. itself with lots of integrity and stability and most of its propaganda machines torn down won't work very well.


[12-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing the US really fears is that other countries become like it


[12-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
stable democracies, with no ability left to topple a leader it doesn't like.


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
well no, the comparison was about media image and social management.


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big data isn't why Bolivia is falling.


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`the only nation without an American embassy`


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's still pretty easy, since Bolivia thing is an isolated incident with no prior context


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
while US thing is the opposite.


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
the task just might be too big.


[12-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
North Korea would like to have a word about this blatant erasure


[12-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
luckily for us all, they'll never learn about it. Ignorance is bliss.


[12-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, naming your group "Falange" is a pretty big oof


[12-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't be suprised if it was a temporary holdover that simply became permanent like all temporary things that are 'good enough'


[12-Nov-19 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Brutal https://i.redd.it/7sit39xz59y31.png

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[12-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What in the fuck is that mess


[12-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
um :wat:


[12-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of wish 'evolve politics' would use the OP's original phrasing. That would make it even better.


[12-Nov-19 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
The boye is safe in Mexico now.

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[12-Nov-19 09:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Relatively


[12-Nov-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/338e568dba644de597185309a790e09d

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Court's conservatives seem to back Trump on immigration
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court's conservative majority seems prepared to allow the Trump administration to end a program that allows some immigrants to work legally in the United States and...
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[12-Nov-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/777e8faa7f18454492762bd96e8ab955

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Sanford suspends GOP presidential primary challenge to Trump
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Mark Sanford dropped his challenge to President Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination on Tuesday, saying the focus on impeachment has made it difficult for...
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[12-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, looks like Roberts et al. will just ignore their reasoning in the census question and say the administration totally can make up bullshit to get its way.


[12-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No surprise


[12-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making sense of precedent is gonna be pretty hard for future judges


[12-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
the court continually bends over bakkwards for Republicans


[12-Nov-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Next Dem can argue that they should for him


[12-Nov-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or her


[12-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they probably won't.


[12-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll ultimately be a mess to replace Gorsuch and Roberts.


[12-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder how we'd treat a president who regularly tries to get justices to resign


[12-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like imagine if Bernie wins and says something like "Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, you are illegitimate, resign"


[12-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And just never gets off pressuring them


[12-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be furious


[12-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they'd be furious about everything he does anyways


[12-Nov-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sen. Burr says he expects a Senate trial to take six to eight weeks


[12-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So much for everything done by Christmas


[12-Nov-19 11:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[12-Nov-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Would you look at that


[12-Nov-19 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/trump-michael-atkinson-inspector-general.html

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Trump Has Considered Firing Intelligence Community Inspector General
The president blames Michael Atkinson, whom he appointed, for finding the anonymous whistle-blower’s complaint on his interactions with Ukraine to be credible.
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[12-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shooting the messenger


[12-Nov-19 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I HAVE FIRED THE HORSE CATCHER


[13-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/470155-gop-chairman-says-senate-impeachment-trial-could-last-6-8-weeks

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GOP chairman says Senate impeachment trial could last 6-8 weeks
Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) predicted the Senate’s handling of potential articles of impeachment could take up to two months.
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[13-Nov-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/UN8bJb8biZU well worth the watch

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[13-Nov-19 12:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/bfEqvHmtfE?amp=1

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Stephen Miller’s Affinity for White Nationalism Revealed in Leak...
In the run-up to the 2016 election, White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller promoted white nationalist literature, pushed racist immigration stories and obsessed over the loss of Confederate symbols after Dylann Roof’s murderous rampage, according to leaked emails ...
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[13-Nov-19 12:27 AM] illumnious#7938
I so love that show @byte[]


[13-Nov-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been disillusioned from the show for a while


[13-Nov-19 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
But that was somewhat of a return to former glory


[13-Nov-19 12:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Mytquinn69/status/1194385340624261120?s=20

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#DeepThoughtsFromWhistleBlower

As long as Rudy's leading the investigation, my anonymity is assured.
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[13-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/s7UVnz1

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Enno Lenze: "I worked at the ISIS-Frontlines but I’m more afraid of the Hong Kong police, since they are unpredictable."
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[13-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-canceled-patrol-trump-said-it-was-hostile-russia-2019-11

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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-canceled-patrol-trump-said-it-was-hostile-russia-2019-11
The US Navy canceled a routine Black Sea patrol after Trump compla...
Trump complained about a CNN report that framed the Black Sea operation as a counter to Russia, according to newly released testimony.
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[13-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[13-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
> Christopher Anderson, an aide to former Special Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, testified that the White House canceled a Navy freedom-of-navigation operation in the Black Sea after President Donald Trump complained to then-national security adviser John Bolton about a CNN report that framed the operation as a counter to Russia, Politico reported.


[13-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
So do the patrol anyway


[13-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What's the president going to do? Fire them?


[13-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470184-democrats-face-make-or-break-moment-on-impeachment

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Democrats face make-or-break moment on impeachment
Democrats have reached a make-or-break moment on impeachment.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_schiffadam_jordanjim_111219gnas_lead.jpg


[13-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another week of public hearings after this


[13-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe the plan is to make it so Republicans look bad and like they've got something to hide


[13-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd really hammer on how they've been so inconsistent in defenses and complaints


[13-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wanting rules then didn't, wanted transcripts then didn't, wanted public hearings then didn't


[13-Nov-19 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also ordering people not to testify, and the "big" WH folk trying to weasel out of being put under oath like roaches covered in grease sliding down a teflon chute in perfect vacuum


[13-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470190-jim-jordan-latest-allegation-of-ignoring-sexual-misconduct-is-ridiculous

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Jim Jordan: Latest allegation of ignoring sexual misconduct is 'ri...
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https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/jordanjim_meadowsmark_zeldinlee_101519gn2_lead.jpg


[13-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a star in the GOP because he didn't _commit_ sexual assault, he merely _ignored_ it.


[13-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate how there are all these movies and series where DC gets fucking wiped out


[13-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's treated like this huge national tragedy


[13-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's be honest


[13-Nov-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would be dancing in the streets


[13-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be a month long holiday


[13-Nov-19 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did the russians do it? Fuck if I care, Mitch is dead


[13-Nov-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The one single particular actual legit honest reason I refuse to take up job offers in the US is because I would totally use my first amendment rights to execute the traitorous scumbags ruining the nation all the while pretending to be its saviours


[13-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That or my lack of impulse control leading to blowing my brains out


[13-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First Amendment is restricted


[13-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you mean second, but it'd be pretty hilarious for you to yell so hard that you kill the turtle.


[13-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FUS RO FUCK YOU


[13-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But seriously, I'd have to be in the midwest, anything close to where one of these fuckknuggets would campaign in and I'd immediately land on a watchlist


[13-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that's the only place they campaign


[13-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iowa and the Midwest matter during election years and no other time


[13-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the fuck campaigns in Denver


[13-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one considering it's blue and the state is too


[13-Nov-19 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're reaching a point where Ohio may not be needed for an election


[13-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50399230

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Clinton 'under enormous pressure' to run in 2020
The former Democratic nominee refuses to rule it out, telling the BBC: "Never say never."
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/161AF/production/_109634509_hi057943545.jpg


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
plz no


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, she;s really not


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont run


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please dont run


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope the "enormous pressure" gives her a stroke


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no oen wants you to run


[13-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
if by "enormous pressure" she means her own fucking ego, then yes


[13-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The people that want Biden but realize he's one surprise wet-woolie away from dying do


[13-Nov-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so is she shels pretty much his age


[13-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She doesn't look like she's about to fucking die, though


[13-Nov-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she looks liek she;s about to die to hammer time


[13-Nov-19 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
into the stratosphere


[13-Nov-19 03:28 AM] ononim#8141

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[13-Nov-19 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/25c8054b9c16409aaef355a1c20e3481

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Court rules against warrantless searches of phones, laptops
BOSTON (AP) — A federal court in Boston has ruled that warrantless U.S. government searches of the phones and laptops of international travelers at airports and other U.S. ports of entry violate...
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[13-Nov-19 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50399640

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Bolivian senator declares herself president
Jeanine Áñez is condemned by ex-leader Evo Morales who says it is the "sneakiest" coup in history.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/503F/production/_109634502_057959950-1.jpg


[13-Nov-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/12/federal-health-funneled-dollars-trump-allies-069638

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Trump allies received hundreds of thousands of dollars under feder...
https://static.politico.com/75/37/5f4bd85947f1bd561a02adc2da84/20191111-trump-verma-gty-773.jpg


[13-Nov-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJDxIAsWkAAgYMr.jpg

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[13-Nov-19 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now fox news is paradign the "whistle blower's" name like a victory trophy


[13-Nov-19 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ijr.com/supreme-court-not-shield-gun-maker-sandy-hook-lawsuit/amp/

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U.S. Supreme Court Will Not Shield Gun Maker From Sandy Hook Lawsuit
The U.S. Supreme Court dealt a blow to the firearms industry.
https://ijr.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2019-11-12T145140Z_1_LYNXMPEFAB1FY_RTROPTP_4_USA-COURT-SANDY-HOOK.jpg


[13-Nov-19 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
welp, that's unfortunate.


[13-Nov-19 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[13-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
the link above. 'We can end gun violence' is an exceptionally naive statement in general, and people that think they're making progress by suing big manufacturers for media's crimes are pretty daft.


[13-Nov-19 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's unfortunate.


[13-Nov-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think special protections against lawsuits over using a product as advertized are **complete and utter bullshit**


[13-Nov-19 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, bonus points for making _absolutely_ 101% sure everyone who ever voted Republican, will vote Trump or replacement come next elections, no matter what else might have happened these last 3 years.


[13-Nov-19 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the ad being sued over

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[13-Nov-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk your guns getting special protection


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can be treated like fukking blenders


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what happened when lawn darts were killing a kid a year?


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We banned them


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
**ENTIRELY**


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
good job, I suppose.


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
was the society better for it?


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what we should do with semi-auto rifles?


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Ban them**


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society had less kids killed on people's lawns, yes.


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
or so you'd think.


[13-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should treat guns like everything the fukk else.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of making them this super special can't deal with thing


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, ban everything else, and become UK. You're on the right track with that.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk your special snowflake protections.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You want your man card validated, thne take our gun and kill the fuck out of people who disagree withyou!"


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We already ban the shit out of like everything that hurts people


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
except ACTUAL WEAPONS


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is retarded.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk your special protections.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk your special treatment.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, yeah.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should get NOTHING.


[13-Nov-19 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a real reasonable statement that is.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK. YOUR. SPECIAL. PROTECTIONS.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
it's good that people chose this specific symbol to validate allllllll the republican fears about liberals.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is indeed rather reasonable to not want super special protections on the one thing that actually fukking is intended to hurt people.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
but then, you've already written off the lot of them, so it doesn't matter, right?


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans can eat shit.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reasonable thing to do is to actually take away their guns.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
well.


[13-Nov-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And end the slaying of children at random every damn month.


[13-Nov-19 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd wish you good luck with that, but that would be counterproductive.


[13-Nov-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care about your precious feelings.


[13-Nov-19 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
have fun with that, instead.


[13-Nov-19 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
if the move for sweeping social reforms and all the other positive changes drops dead at the start because the votes didn't quite come out right, this would be part of the reason why.


[13-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The usual fukking bullshit


[13-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
WAAAAH BAD MAN GO AFTER GUNS


[13-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
WAAAAH NO HEALTHCARE THEN


[13-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yep. Something real and tangible to rally reds behind.


[13-Nov-19 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
just like Trump was the 'symbol' to rally the blues behind (well, against, but same thing here).


[13-Nov-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can rally all they fukking want, their constant opposition to basic reason is just plain insulting


[13-Nov-19 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans act liek the 2nd ammendment is the only ammendement that exists in the constitution anyway


[13-Nov-19 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They only win these elections to begin with because they're going at the state level


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and now that will be gone too Intextda.


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If everything was popular vote by the country, they'd lose every time


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
guess they gonna start respecting the hell out of it now, right?


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but when the constitution was written, nobody wanted to offend the South


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was given too damn much power


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you can stop now Nebbie. I've heard that drivel before (from you, in fact)


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll still act like it, they'll just not be taken as seriously


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and as states were made, they kept being given more


[13-Nov-19 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Land shouldn't be getting a damn vote


[13-Nov-19 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gun fetishists will still be gun fetishists, they jsut wont be allowed to purchase military grade weaponry


[13-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Opponent#3498
miliary-grade weaponry are autos by definition. They generally aren't allowed.


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
we've been there.


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No we fukking havn't, stop deliberately misinterpreting people's words.


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every fukking time


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in your country, maybe


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment anything comes close to talking about semi-auto rifles, you go AUTOMATICS ARE BANNED ANYWAYS


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america, you can buy a fucking automatic rifle like nobody;s business


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT AUTOMATICS


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Semi-automatics are the problem


[13-Nov-19 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
automatics just get illicitly sold into Mexico


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
in _your_ country. You are allowed to purchase either ancient shit before like 1956 or so, and some convoluted part of domestic production SMGs from like 1980ies (mac-11 is the most popular one). The end.


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
the exception is if you're a business, as a sample


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
What people want banned


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
is everything.


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
as far as "military-grade"


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I perfectly understand.


[13-Nov-19 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beyond pistols and bolt-actions, YES


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the actual discussion is about


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well, have fun with that.


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
people will die on this hill.


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
I know I would.


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This constant idea that it's *wrong* to go after this because it's *hard* to go after this is shitty as well.


[13-Nov-19 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're conflating different aspects.


[13-Nov-19 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
no, what I'm saying is, you're wrong, you're barking at the wrong tree and jeopardising the _actual_ valuable points for little to no gain, but I guess if what matters most in life is 'own the reps', yeah, this is the perfect way to do it. Pretty few things would hurt them more.


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's exactly the fukking problem


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying own the reps just to own them


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you treat it as doing ANYTHING that they wouldn't like as being morally wrong


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
that's precisely what anti-gun movement is.


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
'own the reps'. It always was.


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just plain ridiculous


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are people who lost their fukking children to mass shootings


[13-Nov-19 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
it won't fix your mass shootings, since you'll go through the phases of bombings, trucks, what else...


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you seriously believe they just hav it out for Republicans?


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
if media makes mass murder attractive, it will be attractive, guns or no guns.


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there are actual other countries out there


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOTS OF THEM


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
with effective gun control


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, the gun control is effective.


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and very few shootings


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you compare the US to the UK


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Violent crime is WAY lower in the UK


[13-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you break down by gun or not


[13-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US' extra is all from guns


[13-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
US extra is all from media. I bet THEIR news channels don't make every shooter into an anti-hero.


[13-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
or whatever


[13-Nov-19 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the extra is from all the time using a rapid fire weapon cuts in killing dozens of people all at once


[13-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
'rapid fire weapon' huh.


[13-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. We've been there.


[13-Nov-19 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/134DB/production/_85876097_homicides_guns_624_v3.png

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[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally just the media


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it is.


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please do tell how you in the ukraine have been there before


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
the 90ies. Hell, even now, only criminals are allowed to have guns.


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll be easier to put in jail.


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"allowed"


[13-Nov-19 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
not really, no


[13-Nov-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, allowed.


[13-Nov-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see someone on the street with a gun, you hav probable cause


[13-Nov-19 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
illegal obtainment is not being "allowed"


[13-Nov-19 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you ask him about it, bam


[13-Nov-19 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
illegal is just a marker forcing you to cooperate with local 'law enforcement'. And I'll put that in quotes instead.


[13-Nov-19 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you don't see someone on the street with a gun, yeah. Or with cash. Or with anything that attracts attention. Be unassuming, be safe. Dont ask don't tell, remember how you hated that one?


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did you jsut compare owning a gun, to being gay?


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently gun owners are a protected class now


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, you're ballistophobic etc. etc.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
did you just interpret my words? For shame.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the fukk else am I supposed to interpret them?


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
the principle applies to more than just your special snowflakes.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That makes no fukking sense.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont ask dont tell is specifically about gay people


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a good way to live in general.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[13-Nov-19 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well maybe for _YOU_ it is.


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just went from stopping people holding weapons


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
to not allowing gays in the military


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, wat


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
you went there. I did not.


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the whole point of dont ask dont tell was to discharge openly gay people from the military


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm fairly certain at this point you are not interested in an actual argument.


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
are you?


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I keep asking for actual arguments


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in my experience


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```Fukk your special protections.
Fukk your special treatment.
You should get NOTHING.
FUKK. YOUR. SPECIAL. PROTECTIONS.```


[13-Nov-19 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
people here come in 2 categories


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't an argument.


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask,_don%27t_tell

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[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
actual or otherwise.


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a tantrum.


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bunch of people who already know what the deal is and are actually interested in talking about why shit's broken and how to fix it


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but mostly don't bother with any ideas worth a damn


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a bunch of people who do nothing but insist that any attempt to fix things is persecution of them, conservatives


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) was the official United States policy on military service by gays, bisexuals, and lesbians, instituted by the Clinton Administration on February 28, 1994, when Department of Defense Directive 1304.26 issued on December 21, 1993, took effect,[1] lasting until September 20, 2011. The policy prohibited military personnel from discriminating against or harassing closeted homosexual or bisexual service members or applicants, while barring openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual persons from military service


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and then there's me.


[13-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's persecution day in and day out


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And my whole big point is that playing the victim card shouldn't get you shit


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't owed anything just because liberals for once actually got a reform passed, or are actually right about fixing a problem.


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But OH NO


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
SPECIAL LAWSUIT PROTECTIONS DIDN'T SHIELD SPECIAL COMPANIES


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE WORLD IS ON FIRE


[13-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just plain ridiculous


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm here to learn and understand the world, among other places I find informative. I tend to comment on things the way they relate  to me, so I do not have a set-in-stone 'US red or blue' mentality.


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
These companies were given special protections no other companies were


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you act like that's a GOOD thing


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge warp in the justice system


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
some things I consider right. Some I do not. I tend to voice both.


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you treat it as good


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you don't like the idea of the justice system actually doing its job


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and making people responsible for their actions


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
when it comes into contact with firearms.


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
you can stop Nebbie. Reiterating your point for the 4th time word for word isn't doing you (or me) any favours.


[13-Nov-19 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So yes, fukk your special protections


[13-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
your feelings are irrelevant


[13-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, sure.


[13-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The justice system should throw gun makers thru the fukking wringer when they deliberately contribute, via media, to the problem


[13-Nov-19 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem you are insisting is solely the media's fault, remember


[13-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think anyone but you two ever disagreed, at least among the several dozen US people I've talked to, on either side.


[13-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's plurality of opinion for you.


[13-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the media being at fault? There's no solid evidence that can actually tie them to anything.


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, people cried foul all fukking day about Joker


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's media that'd glorify incels committing violence


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
not one shooting from the thing


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
Joker is monetised outrage, we've been through that before I thought.


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but oh it's totally just people being INSPIRED by the media


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep changing what you're arguing about.


[13-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
no, you are.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not arguing about what Joker is.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
now it's about Joker.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm like, Que?


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm arguing that the lakk of shootings from Joker is evidence that it's not the media's fault.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you don't accept that


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
no, it's not.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious watching people who claim to be strong manly men get triggered when even mentioning the idea of not giving the gun industry special protections


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you turn it into another argument


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
about Joker


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
...no, you did :/


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
like, literally.


[13-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I never mentioned it.


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're using fallacious reasoning


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm sure it makes sense in your head, but please stop?


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I brought up Y thing to talk about why X category that includes Y isn't responsible


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
...or don't, I guess.


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You then said "Joker is monetised outrage, we've been through that before I thought."


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you took his mention of joker as an example of media response, and turned it into a full arguement


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a different argument about Y


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
We weren't arguing about Joker being about outrage or what the fukk ever that is


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
We were arguing about the media being at fault


[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
Intexda, how can I turn something into an argument when I consider it being nothing to argue about?

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[13-Nov-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
but how dare I mention something else in all that.


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen this a lot around here.


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
because Joker is entirely irrelevant. Why would you even mention it?


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it IS relevant


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is media


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is media that glorifies a guy shooting people


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
NEWS media then. Better?


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
real people.


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
not hijacked imagery.


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does the difference matter?


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does being news change it?


[13-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your theory?


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
because News don't include Joker, so we can at least put that strawman back into the closet.


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make sense


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm asking you why Joker and CNN hav different effects


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
of course. You would know about sense.


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the difference causing one to inspire things and the other not?


[13-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHAT is the difference?


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get to just slather the word "news", it has to be something actually relevant to the claimed inspirational effect.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
if you don't see a difference between a comic book film (or whatever, not the point) and the stories reading like 'heroes around you' in the news media, I got bad _news_ for you.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Joker never inspired anything but gave the symbolism needed to moderate the discussion and its relations.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And here we go again


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're refusing to actually bakk up your claims


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
when I'm asking what they even are


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or rather did that so far as the news goes.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
you have no backing for your claims either Nebbie.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're just saying that I'm crazy for not seeing a difference


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you aren't saying what the difference is.


[13-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I can be a douche and ask for citations on every point you make.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
can you do anything other than say "no u"


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't do that.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not the one making a claim here


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
you made the claim


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's all the media's fault


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
bakk up your fukking claim


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I presented counter evidence


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
no, you didn't.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
explain how my counter evidence is wrong.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I said 'yes', you threw a tantrum.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
but let me pull up relevant study.


[13-Nov-19 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he provided a data chart


[13-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
no true data


[13-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[13-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the *news* is responsible


[13-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
then why is it that in this age where we regularly look at news from other countries


[13-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it seems to be heavily per-country?


[13-Nov-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I got that little chart earlier from the BBC btw https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604

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Statistics behind US violence
As Barack Obama vows to introduce new gun control measures via executive action, here is a look at some of the statistics behind America's problem with gun violence.
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[13-Nov-19 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

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Abigail Geiger
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
A look at the data on murders, suicides and other gun deaths in the U.S. and how they have changed over time.
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/FT_19.08.14_GunDeaths_feature.png


[13-Nov-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://calmatters.org/health/2018/11/california-lower-death-rate-gun-control/

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Elizabeth Aguilera
https://calmatters.org/health/2018/11/california-lower-death-rate-gun-control/
Despite mass shooting, California—with tougher gun control—has...
Yes, California leads the nation in highest number of mass shooting deaths, but that ranking belies the fact that California has one of the nation’s lowest overall gun deaths per capita. Although California leads the nation in number of mass shooting deaths, it has one of t...
https://calmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/11/iStock-868559642.jpg?fit=1254%2C836


[13-Nov-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://calmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-09-at-9.25.19-AM.png

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[13-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296697/
https://www.elon.edu/u/academics/communications/journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/153/2018/12/03-Lee.pdf (I don't entirely understand their math, and there's apparently too little data to present a concrete causative link, but still)
https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/news-media/mass-shootings-news-research/ (those guys claim causation but don't show the math, and the papers they cite are paywalled)
https://time.com/5646317/mass-shootings-social-media/ On radicalisation in general, name's misleading, but still relevant. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting_contagion wiki link for completion.

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Mass Shootings: The Role of the Media in Promoting Generalized Imi...
Mass shootings are a particular problem in the United States, with one mass shooting occurring approximately every 12.5 days.Recently a “contagion” effect has been suggested wherein the occurrence of one mass shooting increases the likelihood ...
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https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/news-media/mass-shootings-news-research/
How journalists cover mass shootings: 5 recent studies to consider
To help newsrooms improve their coverage of mass shootings, we’ve gathered research that examines past news coverage from several angles.
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https://time.com/5646317/mass-shootings-social-media/
We Can't Allow Hate to Take Over Social Media
It can be a tool for good after mass shootings. But it can also fuel them
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/el-paso-protests.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1

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Mass shooting contagion
Mass shooting contagion theory is the studied nature and effect of media coverage of mass homicidal events and the potential increase of mimicked events. Academic study of this theory has grown in recent years due to the nature of mass shooting events, frequency of references...


[13-Nov-19 05:34 AM] Opponent#3498
this is just the first Google page that I skimmed through and found relevant (not everything is)


[13-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to understand the second one's math, it's not about your argument


[13-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying *social media* is to blame, as in like, shooters are more likely to be people who use Facebook


[13-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
also, of note, Wiki presents a formal definition for mass shooting. Liberal charts usually dispense with that and lump in any 'gun in public' event, so they get their argument of _omg thousands of them_


[13-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
right, well, later links mention social media as well as traditional one.


[13-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
you probably could dismiss those on this basis too.


[13-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I can continue digging *shrug*


[13-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is linked for causation of media reports to mass shootings (among that huge pile in that article, the rest is all about like, increased weapon sales, perceptions, etc.)


[13-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/public-health/mass-shooters-suicide-bombers-journalism/

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“Don’t name them” – Criminologist asks journalists to help...
Criminologist Adam Lankford has found that mass shooters and suicide bombers are looking for fame. In an interview with JR, he asks journalists not to honor them, not to publish their names and pictures.
https://journalistsresource.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/28089572824_1ea4944d36_k.jpg


[13-Nov-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, even if we assume naming and [in]faming them is the issue, this doesn't explain the sudden rises, nor why there's such severe country differences.


[13-Nov-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Surely if it was just wanting to get on the front page of every newspaper, we'd see similar shootings in the UK


[13-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't hav a habit over there of not naming the perpetrators. NZ's more recent thing was rather unusual in actually not naming the guy.


[13-Nov-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824


[13-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it doesn't make sense.


[13-Nov-19 05:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Read a book


[13-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It clearly cannot be all the media's fault.


[13-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And on first glance, a theory that the horrible nature of working in America is behind making people go crazy seems logical


[13-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it fits with research on how wealth inequality affects people


[13-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm, let's see if I can find a free link for that. Looks curious.


[13-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
poor people take greater risks


[13-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they want to be rich and famous


[13-Nov-19 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oops, wrong book


[13-Nov-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
There we go


[13-Nov-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
A sample


[13-Nov-19 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Free of charge


[13-Nov-19 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another factor is state laws not being uniform accross the board on issues like this. such as with i think the el passo shooter. He couldn;t obtain a gun in his own state so he drove accross state lines and purchsed a gun out of state where it was legal.


[13-Nov-19 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
goodie. I'll definitely look up the full title.


[13-Nov-19 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent I posted the Amazon link above. Use that. Or use it to get the title then look for anyone but Amazon.


[13-Nov-19 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, thank you for that.


[13-Nov-19 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a good book and on point. It's got a stack of references and citations in the back, or should: it's an investigative journalism piece and not a knee jerk op-ed in the week after a shooting


[13-Nov-19 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mark Ames does a historical analysis as far back as the birth of America to sketch out and look for the root social causes and does not just an analysis of the individuals - he contends they can never be profiled, and he proves that several times throughout - but workplaces which have a far more consistent character he contends.


[13-Nov-19 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The real trend begins with Reagan and has climbed ever since under the growing strength of investor finance and the legacy of "Neutron" Jack Welch, former CEO of General Electric


[13-Nov-19 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cummings/late-u-s-representative-elijah-cummings-wife-announces-bid-for-his-baltimore-seat-idUSKBN1XM2VC

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Late U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings' wife announces bid for h...
The wife of the late U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings, who played a key role ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191112&t=2&i=1451529948&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAB2C3


[13-Nov-19 06:51 AM] byte[]#2610
well that was a clusterfuck


[13-Nov-19 11:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ErikaOSanoja/status/1194346423925583872

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[13-Nov-19 11:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1194241731811794952

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Bolivian security forces and racist right-wing mobs are going door-to-door, rounding up and beating Indigenous people and leftists in impoverished neighbourhoods in La Paz as they try to literally smoke supporters  of @evoespueblo out. #ThisIsACoup #ElGolpeDeEstadoEnBolivi...
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[13-Nov-19 11:24 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/CNNArgentina/status/1194399284210348033

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"La Biblia vuelve a Palacio", dice Jeanine Áñez. La senadora, quien se declaró presidenta de #Bolivia, se dirigió al antiguo Palacio de Gobierno levantando una Biblia.

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[13-Nov-19 11:24 AM] ononim#8141
"the bible returns to the palace"


[13-Nov-19 11:25 AM] ononim#8141
https://web.archive.org/web/20191113002729/https:/twitter.com/JeanineAnez/status/347734496273113088

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Jeanine Añez Chavez on Twitter
“Que año nuevo aymara ni lucero del alba!! satànicos, a Dios nadie lo reemplaza!!”
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[13-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeech


[13-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, sounds like the typical 'bible returning' anywhere in history.


[13-Nov-19 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/epa-seeks-ban-some-scientific-studies-creation-public-health-regulations

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Health advocates warn there will be an increase in air pollution and unsafe water.
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[13-Nov-19 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Against the advice of many scientists, policymakers and public health experts, the Trump administration is poised to pass new rules that will severely limit the scientific data that can be used to make public health regulations. It could also, opponents argue, expose more Americans to dangerous toxins and life-threatening pollution.

The New York Times obtained a draft of the United States Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) proposed rules, “Strengthening Transparency in Regulatory Science.” The document states that the agency will only consider the conclusions of academic studies if scientists disclose all of their raw data, including confidential medical records.


[13-Nov-19 01:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's the problem with removing confidential data like name surname and ssn?


[13-Nov-19 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they want to make it hard for scientists and lawmakers to create laws, by making it so it violates confidentiality agreements/laws


[13-Nov-19 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this also gives Trump and other politicians a list of names to go after if congress does try to pass a climate change law


[13-Nov-19 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>The measure would make it more difficult to enact new clean air and water rules because many studies detailing the links between pollution and disease rely on personal health information gathered under confidentiality agreements. And, unlike a version of the proposal that surfaced in early 2018, this one could apply retroactively to public health regulations already in place.


[13-Nov-19 01:14 PM] Mani#1404
So...impeachment hearings are tomorrow or something? Why do I feel like this'll be uneventful.


[13-Nov-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because republicans hyped it up toomuch


[13-Nov-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is an impeachment hearing, not a boxing match


[13-Nov-19 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Today


[13-Nov-19 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In a few hours afaik


[13-Nov-19 02:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah, a bit over an hour before they start with pleasantries


[13-Nov-19 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/eHyDUQAHCJw

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[13-Nov-19 03:50 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty good. Love the retro style too.


[13-Nov-19 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXlbDEATZwM

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PBS NewsHour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXlbDEATZwM
WATCH LIVE: The Trump Impeachment Hearings - Day 1 - PBS NewsHour ...
Amb. William Taylor and deputy assistant secretary of state George Kent testify in an open impeachment hearing before the House Intelligence Committee. Strea...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CXlbDEATZwM/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[13-Nov-19 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Classic GOP, "whatabout Biden though?"


[13-Nov-19 04:38 PM] byte[]#2610
just more baseless claims, projections, loaded questions, and frequently interrupting


[13-Nov-19 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a lie, the '100 protestors' were less than that, as well as people killed by the crowds and some criminal deaths which weren't related counted in that number.


[13-Nov-19 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
this is actually true, the invasion rallied the people to an amazing degree.


[13-Nov-19 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm of strong opinion that the invasion saved us from legitimate civil war, in fact...


[13-Nov-19 05:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's really not as bright and happy as he describes it about the immunity thing and others. It's an endless talking point, they won't resolve it any time soon. He has to say that though, of course. Can't blame him.


[13-Nov-19 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I missed this side of western politics. They will still fuck you over, but at least they do it with style.


[13-Nov-19 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
'in our best moments', I loved listening to him, I really did.


[13-Nov-19 05:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/3eMfv1i3eFk

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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 6: MS Estonia
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[13-Nov-19 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
taylor seems like he can singlehandedly fuck the entire republican argument


[13-Nov-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
oh no it's devin nunes


[13-Nov-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
the GOP starts questioning again in 5 min


[13-Nov-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
"politicized bureaucracy that has damaged millions"


[13-Nov-19 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[13-Nov-19 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
no irony at all


[13-Nov-19 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
that's big oof.


[13-Nov-19 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
their counsel is fucking nuts


[13-Nov-19 07:02 PM] Opponent#3498
how come?


[13-Nov-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
are you watching it


[13-Nov-19 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. So far they do exactly what I'd expect them to do.


[13-Nov-19 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
attack the process, try and make the witness agree with them, try to discredit the witness


[13-Nov-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd say they are even gaining a little bit of ground there.


[13-Nov-19 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
justify the argument about 'Ukraine interference', for example, no matter how insignificant that might be.


[13-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
now they go for 'is Ukraine even worth helping and maybe the doubt are justified'


[13-Nov-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
not bad, ex-Polish prez.


[13-Nov-19 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
they'll continue to try to misdirect and redefine the terms. Now they're treating a 'can't answer' as an aswer they want.


[13-Nov-19 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
that's pretty standard, especially when the question asked is straightforward to answer


[13-Nov-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610

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[13-Nov-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
true, it's not unexpected, but then it's automatic win for the questioning side to ask someone a question outside their expertise or area of involvement


[13-Nov-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
slimy, but it works.


[13-Nov-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
in a court you'd get an objection, but not here.


[13-Nov-19 07:19 PM] Opponent#3498
least that's how it works, I assume.


[13-Nov-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
correct


[13-Nov-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
the opposing counsel can object to irrelevant questioning


[13-Nov-19 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
afaik all of the congressional hearings still have lawyers involved representing the people testifying


[13-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
and this is where witness discrediting comes in.


[13-Nov-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I have to go to class now


[13-Nov-19 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
What surprised me is that the GOP counsel (as I watching) didn't do anything to discredit the idea that the president had created an illegitimate foreign policy channel counter to the goals of the US


[13-Nov-19 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I wondered about that.


[13-Nov-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
and Taylor should have expounded on what that proper channel would be (mutual legal assistance treaty with the ukrainian prosecutor)


[13-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe that's why. It's an easy answer in favour of their opposition.


[13-Nov-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
the Democrats' counsel pretty much nailed it though


[13-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
the last guy did the same thing Ben Shapiro does. Try to speak very rapidly, to try and drown the opponent. Preferably very loudly.


[13-Nov-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
from his inquiry of Taylor the clear purpose of the illegitimate channel was to turn the Ukrainian government into an arm of the Trump reelection campaign


[13-Nov-19 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
by using them to smear Biden


[13-Nov-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
And Taylor acknowledged that the Ukrainians were very sensitive to receiving that security assistance and were willing to go ahead with the announcement


[13-Nov-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent gish gallop


[13-Nov-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
common debate tactic


[13-Nov-19 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I withdraw the question"


[13-Nov-19 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What a bitch


[13-Nov-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[13-Nov-19 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Wish I could be watching


[13-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP guy spent two minutes ranting, then told Taylor to not answer the question, was told to let him, said he withdrew the question to prevent Taylor from talking


[13-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Schiff paused the clock to let Taylor talk and the GOP was fuming that the witness was allowed to answer his "question"


[13-Nov-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jordan and Gaetz are gifts to the Democrats.


[13-Nov-19 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One GOP just accused Obama of being a russian plant, nice


[13-Nov-19 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
oof. Now this guy, I love already


[13-Nov-19 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
'Welcome to the 4th year of impeachment'.


[13-Nov-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When Taylor said his “clear understanding” was that the two were linked, Jordan responded “Your clear understanding was obviously wrong, because it didn’t happen… where did you get this clear understanding?”


[13-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, this is a guy who was repeatedly told people under his care were being sexually harassed


[13-Nov-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"First hand" is a pretty high standard for him


[13-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470308-gop-counsel-acknowledges-irregular-channel-between-us-and-ukraine

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GOP counsel acknowledges 'irregular channel' between U.S. and Ukraine
GOP counsel Steve Castor acknowledged what both he and acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor described as an “irregular channel” of policymaking between the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gop_conusel_impeachment_111319gn_lead.jpg


[13-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kent has clearly stopped giving a fuck


[13-Nov-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The fact that the aid was released and no investigation started is not the point


[13-Nov-19 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are they talking about Obama

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[13-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic Republican strategy


[13-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
blame the last Democrat in power


[13-Nov-19 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
for everything


[13-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
'somebody tried to steal the elections' in 2004 xD Meaning, US-backed president candidate broke the law and essentially forced an illegitimate 3rd round of elections, which he won, to no one's suprise. And everyone was fine with that, no suprise.


[13-Nov-19 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1194693256745046016?s=19

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I finally made it to Silver🥈😭 https://t.co/nN5s1HENDv
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[13-Nov-19 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
AoC plays League of Legends


[13-Nov-19 08:43 PM] ononim#8141
ok


[13-Nov-19 08:43 PM] ononim#8141
**Canceled**


[13-Nov-19 08:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
What a gamer


[13-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Mikey#7286
lol


[13-Nov-19 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
In other news, I get back to my reading schedule after a weekend of distraction. I close out the section of this book on the heroin trade in Vietnam, and what a ride.

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[13-Nov-19 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Fucking thirty percent addiction rate among American GIs


[13-Nov-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Gateway to introducing smack to America's middle class


[13-Nov-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
>"man lemme just sell enough Double U-O so I can buy a gas station, house, and a boat"


[13-Nov-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you based Vietcong for ending this tragedy.


[13-Nov-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Except


[13-Nov-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
It only shifts


[13-Nov-19 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tomorrow: Hong Kong, the great Heroin Lab.


[13-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yup. Jordan IS a gift.


[13-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
a walking stereotype.


[13-Nov-19 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Finally, Castro asked, "Is attempted extortion and bribery a crime?"

"I don't know, sir," Taylor said.


[13-Nov-19 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
"What is law" is the best answer.


[13-Nov-19 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Sir, is clubbing a person with a sledgehammer repeatedly until his head a pancake murder or aggrivated assault?"


[13-Nov-19 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
"I don't understand"


[13-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, 'attempted extortion' is not, in fact, a crime according to the law.


[13-Nov-19 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I can't imagine something being classified as that


[13-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is a crime


[13-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
extortion doesn't require it to work


[13-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just requires that you make the threat


[13-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
the "attempted" is rolled into the word itself


[13-Nov-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's extortion whether it gets what you want or not.


[13-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It **is a crime**.


[13-Nov-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
According to the law.


[13-Nov-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/470321-aarp-exec-takes-apparent-swipe-at-ok-boomer-line-were-the-people-that-actually

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A senior official with the AARP, the company formerly known as The American Association of Retired Persons, on Tuesday took an apparent swipe at millennials over the popular, “OK, boomer,” message, arguing that the older generations “ac
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[13-Nov-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
OK boomer


[13-Nov-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This attitude is why the meme exists


[13-Nov-19 09:18 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Nov-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/watch-taylor-shuts-down-gop-congressman-in-fiery-clash-on-whether-trump-committed-an-impeachable-offense/

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Joe DePaolo
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WATCH: Rep. John Ratcliffe and Bill Taylor Clash at Impeachment He...
William Taylor, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, shut down a Republican congressman in a fiery clash over whether President Donald Trump committed an impeachable offense during his call with Ukr
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[13-Nov-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that ok boomer story is amazing and surreal


[13-Nov-19 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, how long till trump tweets about ok boomer?


[13-Nov-19 10:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/opinion/trump-impeachment-hearings.html

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By Neal K. Katyal
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/opinion/trump-impeachment-hearings.html
Opinion | What Trump Is Hiding From the Impeachment Hearings
The president’s efforts to prevent the House from doing its job are just as worrisome as the Ukraine scandal.
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[13-Nov-19 10:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
The President of Empty Chairs

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[13-Nov-19 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/us-house-impeachment-inquiry-hearing-live.html


[13-Nov-19 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
hate crime? Nah


[13-Nov-19 10:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
so boomers now believe in hate speech? good to know


[13-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
hate speech? You could make a credible argument about it.


[13-Nov-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent let's follow this to its conclusion


[13-Nov-19 10:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Well it is age discrimination. But fuck boomers. They have done a lot more age discrimination.


[13-Nov-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
It's then also hate speech for boomers to run any more headlines about MILLENIALS ARE KILLING THE X INDUSTRY


[13-Nov-19 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
true, it is.


[13-Nov-19 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
they really don't think things through do they


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
which is unfortunate. But if removing that would be the outcome of 'ok boomer', I'd be satisfied.


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
also, boomers will be mostly dead in 20 years


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Neither of those things really seem like hate speech to me


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Neither of those things really seem like hate speech to me


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok coomer


[13-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do not say "Ok boomer" in the workplace


[13-Nov-19 10:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh we want to, you know it


[13-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be seen as age discrimination, full stop


[13-Nov-19 10:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/13/tesla-cites-brexit-as-germany-chosen-over-uk-for-european-plant-elon-musk

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Tesla cites Brexit as Germany chosen over UK for European plant
US electric carmaker will build battery factory in Berlin, says boss Elon Musk
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[13-Nov-19 10:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ok


[13-Nov-19 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(not to say you're a boomer)


[13-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
yep. The sane people's reaction to UK goofing around.


[13-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
bet they won't be the only ones.


[13-Nov-19 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i wouldn't mind respecting the elderly if they mutually respected us back, but again, that's the point of the meme isn't it


[13-Nov-19 11:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[13-Nov-19 11:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought learning differentiation and integration on Pornhub is already enough for Chinese


[13-Nov-19 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
okay, first off, why are there Chinese political videos on PornHub?


[14-Nov-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because YT and other platforms are much more likely to censor them

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[14-Nov-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
hmm


[14-Nov-19 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
outstanding move


[14-Nov-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
PH may eventually, but not *immediately* like the tube of You


[14-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dsylqp/picture_of_a_political_prisoner_in_one_of_chinas/

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reddit.com: over 18?
Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. Get a constantly updating feed of breaking news, fun stories, pics, memes, and videos just for you. Passionate about something niche? Reddit has thousands of vibrant communities with people that share your interests. Alt...


[14-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
NSFL


[14-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
@AlchemistLiang


[14-Nov-19 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3442256

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Netizens outraged by 'gene washing' w... | Taiwan News
Netizens outraged by sad expression on face of Uyghur woman forced to marry Chinese man as part of government assimilation program.Netizens outraged by sad expression on face of Ughur woman forced to marry Chinese man as part of Beijing's assimilation program to pacify ethnic...
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[14-Nov-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/p5dusk8myhy31.jpg

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[14-Nov-19 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
what is "white coffee" lol


[14-Nov-19 12:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wait...


[14-Nov-19 12:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Nov-19 12:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Isn't this a 火山小视频?


[14-Nov-19 12:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's the fucking video app my mom watches everyday


[14-Nov-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like a video sharing app, yeah


[14-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
just realized that article is over a year old though, even though it's still relevant


[14-Nov-19 12:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's a video sharing app only for old people


[14-Nov-19 12:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just all kinds of shaddy dancing and songs


[14-Nov-19 12:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also videos of weddings, birthdays, and someone showing off their lover or baby


[14-Nov-19 12:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
However, this app was banned for a month this year, because some naughty kids shared the video of their mother taking baths or changing clothes.


[14-Nov-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>ban the entire platform over 0.001% of the users' actions


[14-Nov-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-missed-out-on-buying-up-half-of-tiktok-and-now-it-says-its-a-threat-to-democracy-2019-11

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Mark Zuckerberg says TikTok is a threat to democracy, but didn't s...
BuzzFeed reports Facebook wasn't able to close the deal, while Bloomberg reports it walked away over concerns about Musical.ly's users and ownership.
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[14-Nov-19 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i agree with him tbh


[14-Nov-19 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TikTok delenda est


[14-Nov-19 01:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Teaspoon This is CHINA


[14-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine Steven Miller and Zuck having a conversation


[14-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which one will out the other as a replicant first?


[14-Nov-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
more like


[14-Nov-19 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which one will win the struggle and consume the other for his data


[14-Nov-19 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🤖


[14-Nov-19 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
never forget https://youtu.be/dGIYHEb3tPk?t=76

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Stephen Miller Was An Unbearable Douchebag Before It Was Cool
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[14-Nov-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://stoehr.substack.com/p/if-anything-ok-boomer-is-too-timid

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'OK, Boomer' Is Too Timid
I’m dismayed to discover that some members of my generation have sided with the generation before us in condemning a trendy catch-phrase among younger Americans. Of all people, Generation X (born 1965-1980) should know better than to join the wrong side of a generational wa...
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[14-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gen x that post online already have jobs and 15+ years experience


[14-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
> The biggest American generation in size and influence looked at the younger and rising generations voting for hope and change in 2008, and said no. You can’t have the house. We’ll burn it down first. This is what the boomers should be known for. Not peace and love.
> 
> The “culture war” is drawn out generational conflict that on occasion spasms violently. Only the young are not equals to the old, because the old have all the money and power. Young Americans are right to suspect that older Americans are trying to harm them. But most boomers refuse to call it a war. They’d have to look at themselves if they did. It’s easier to blame “political correctness” or condescend to youth facing incredible challenges. It’s easier to be offended by “OK, Boomer.”


[14-Nov-19 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
> If anything, “OK, Boomer” is too timid. It tries to avoid offending people offended by the acknowledgement of political reality. By virtually everything. Though we failed, Generation X wasn’t timid. We don’t have much, but at least we can offer that.


[14-Nov-19 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Mainland Chinese students are being called back out of colleges in HK to return to the mainland.
BBC reporter said Hong Kong college campus looked like a bootcamp for protesters and 2 guys kicking a bottle of water between each other were likely practicing how to use petrol bombs. because you kick bombs...
Guess the brits have picked which side they are on.


[14-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/9lctx7m

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Battle of CUHK
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[14-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
1989 tiananmen square vs 2019 chinese university of hong kong


[14-Nov-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Nov-19 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i see fires. not as many guns though.


[14-Nov-19 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's definitely guns


[14-Nov-19 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Burning Man 2013

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[14-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://babylonbee.com/news/capitol-building-replaced-with-giant-circus-tent-for-duration-of-impeachment-hearings

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Capitol Building To Be Decorated As Giant Circus Tent For Duration...
WASHINGTON, D.C.—In honor of the impeachment hearings beginning this week, the Capitol Building has been decorated to look like a giant circus tent.As soon as congressional maintenance staff heard that the impeachment hearings were going to begin, they went into storage and...
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[14-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Mani#1404
Of course boomers are taking a meme too seriously


[14-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Jim Jordan is the clown


[14-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
🤡


[14-Nov-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's some primo cognitive dissonance to bring up kavanaugh but not benghazi


[14-Nov-19 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was called an unpatriotic TRAITOR (emphasis not mine) in another server for daring to suggest Russia influenced the election, so


[14-Nov-19 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was called an insane conspiracy theorist who beleives in unicorns and aliens for suggesting that


[14-Nov-19 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, that's, like, accepted knowledge by everyone


[14-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that scotland's national animal is the unicorn


[14-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
🦄


[14-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, the unicorn emoji changed


[14-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
it looks like a horse with a carrot on its head now


[14-Nov-19 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
used to be purple


[14-Nov-19 03:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Discord finally updated their emoji


[14-Nov-19 03:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:tempsurprise:


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
These notable ones have changed 🔫 ✨


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, they got rid of the revolver emoji


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
ew wtf sparkles


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I prefered the older sparkles emoji


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
the old sparkles were much better


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
same with unicorn


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Because it was actually sparkles


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But don't worry, we finally got this gem


[14-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🧐


[14-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
boomer emoji


[14-Nov-19 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Congratulations everyone. we stopped school shootings. 🔫

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[14-Nov-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
🔫


[14-Nov-19 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
I wish they renamed it to squirt gun or something


[14-Nov-19 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
Oh hey revolver is still there on mobile


[14-Nov-19 03:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
only if you have an older OS


[14-Nov-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm still seeing the revolver


[14-Nov-19 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🔫


[14-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 wasn't working last nite


[14-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
seems it still isn't


[14-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
still not working


[14-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[14-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supposed to be Scottish flag, called scotland, turns into blakk flag.


[14-Nov-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ANARCHIST SCOTLAND


[14-Nov-19 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ANARCHIST SCOTLAND


[14-Nov-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/sYXBrqd

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With election day coming up in the US, it's important for women to remember that their right to vote came only after a long and bitter struggle.
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[14-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```okay, first off, why are there Chinese political videos on PornHub?```


[14-Nov-19 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
why not


[14-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think at one point, PornHub was the main way to watch the EqG movies


[14-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an often-overlooked platform by parties who would rather stop the spread of certain videos


[14-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 like a year or so back sports firearms community had a wave of censoring, so InRangeTV and others moved there for a bit (along with heavier use of their specific platform). It helped, for a time, PH _eventually_ gave them the boot but it took them like half a year or so.


[14-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
at this point PH really seems like a weirder but more tolerant YT by people.


[14-Nov-19 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
(also your name scared me just a little bit)


[14-Nov-19 05:46 AM] illumnious#7938
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/229820513738948609/644397199928721436/Meeting_the_President.webm

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[14-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Opponent#3498
spliced, but still fun.


[14-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
College shooting in Russia


[14-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
1 dead and shooter shoot himself


[14-Nov-19 07:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/494457977191419db3cea4ff4d157f96

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Power struggle in Bolivia: Añez at home vs Morales in exile
LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) — Where does the power line stand in crisis-torn Bolivia? Jeanine Añez, the Senate leader who has claimed the interim presidency of the Andean country, seems to have the...
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[14-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/world/europe/tampon-tax-germany.html

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By Melissa Eddy
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/world/europe/tampon-tax-germany.html
Tampons to Be Taxed as Essential, Not Luxury, Items in Germany
Starting Jan. 1, menstrual products will be considered “necessary” items, as bread, books and cut flowers are.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/11/12/world/12germany-tampons2/12germany-tampons2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[14-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk VAT


[14-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it should be abolished.


[14-Nov-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/470386-graham-blocks-resolution-recognizing-armenian-genocide-after-erdogan-meeting

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Graham blocks resolution recognizing Armenian genocide after Erdo...
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) blocked a resolution on Wednesday that would have formally recognized the Ottoman Empire's genocide against the Armenian people.  Sen.
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[14-Nov-19 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/principal-who-banned-gay-books-charged-child-pornography-n1081461

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Principal who banned gay books charged with child pornography
“As I said to some friends last night when I got the news, ‘You can’t make this sh-- up,'" one of the authors whose books were banned said.
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[14-Nov-19 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
> Jordan's style, which he showcased here, is ignoring crimes; Here it's just an entire country getting fucked rather than a kid.


[14-Nov-19 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He yells a lot


[14-Nov-19 02:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is more annoying than usual given the the pitch of his voice


[14-Nov-19 02:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/469058-poll-62-of-trump-supporters-say-nothing-the-president-could-do-would

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Poll: 62 percent of Trump fans say they support him no matter what
More than 60 percent of respondents who support President Trump say they support him no matter what, according to a new survey.
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[14-Nov-19 02:56 PM] byte[]#2610
who's the NPC now


[14-Nov-19 03:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Nov-19 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/dw0999/breaking_gamer_furious_that_alexandria_ocasio/

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BREAKING: Gamer furious that Alexandria Ocasio Cortez plays League...
Medical personnel and Riot staff were dispatched to a gamer's house today, after a sudden discovery threw *SocraticMind,* aged 25, into a mental...
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[14-Nov-19 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Heated gamer moment


[14-Nov-19 03:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/arby-apos-restaurant-removes-apos-132031383.html

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Arby's restaurant removes 'insensitive' sign following outcry from...
"I was shocked to find a sign like that," parent says.
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[14-Nov-19 04:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/kT0HJkr1jj4

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YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[14-Nov-19 04:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-stunned-george-kent-impeachment-water-bottle-1471711

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Fox News stunned that impeachment witness drank water: "Fish are n...
Laura Ingraham attacked George Kent for bringing a large water bottle to a hearing lasting several hours.
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[14-Nov-19 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498
tfw you can't attack the subject, nor the process, nor the personalities, so you latch onto a water bottle.


[14-Nov-19 05:39 PM] jlun2#8758
https://nypost.com/2019/11/13/ex-wework-ceo-adam-neumann-eyes-45m-penthouse-on-park-avenue/
Loot from screwing over 4000 employees

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Ex-WeWork CEO Adam Neumann eyes $45M penthouse on Park Avenue
After reported rejections by Fifth Avenue co-ops, Neumann and his wife Rebekah have turned their attention to a lavish condo at 1010 Park Ave. — no board approval required.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2019/11/gs-adam-neuman-1010-park.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[14-Nov-19 07:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://punchng.com/protests-against-poverty-iraqis-counter-police-dogs-with-lion/


[14-Nov-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, link is 404


[14-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dvytpt/iraqi_protesters_bring_out_lions_to_counter/

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Iraqi protesters bring out lions to counter police dogs
Posted in r/pics by u/Abdirahman_idow • 13,788 points and 584 comments
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[14-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/540c59szdgy31.jpg

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[14-Nov-19 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
> One person controlling a lion. That's like my 4 year old niece taking my German shepherd for a walk.


[14-Nov-19 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/96YyLrh.jpg

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Me_irl
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[14-Nov-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Hey look


[14-Nov-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Another school shooting


[14-Nov-19 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Saugus-High-School-Shooting-Santa-Clarita-California-564919052.html

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One Dead After Student Opens Fire at Saugus High School in Santa C...
One victim has died and two others are in critical condition after a student  opened fire Thursday morning at a high school in Santa Clarita.
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[14-Nov-19 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Nov-19 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5dcc3d0be4b0d43931ce2d94

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Kentucky's GOP Governor Embraces Outlandish Conspiracies As He Ref...
Gov. Matt Bevin, who lost a close election last week, waded deep into the fever swamps to amplify baseless claims of voter fraud.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5dcc6bca2500000605d2d039.jpeg?ops=1778_1000


[14-Nov-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He conceded


[14-Nov-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2i27aw0x0oy31.jpg

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[14-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone in the GOP straight up said that if a Democrat were in the WH and did the same thing the GOP would not impeach


[14-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone should make note of that


[14-Nov-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton tho.


[14-Nov-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You had Graham literally saying that impeachment doesn't even require high crimes or bribery


[14-Nov-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now they're saying **high crimes and bribery aren't enuff**


[14-Nov-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both of these things are stupid.


[14-Nov-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying it's different because there was a special prosecutor backt then


[14-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic "if we change the rules, they can't be used to hurt us anymore"


[14-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So things are different because this time, Mueller was handcuffed and tied down and waterboarded by the law into not accusing Trump of anything.


[14-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Archonix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WWrtWvxFw

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[14-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Kojima was right


[15-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/europe/university-graduate-child-genius-scli-intl/index.html

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Nine-year-old child genius to graduate university
A child prodigy from Belgium is on course to gain a bachelor's degree at the tender age of nine.
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[15-Nov-19 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3abgv/paypal-pulls-out-of-pornhub-payments

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PayPal Pulls Out of Pornhub, Hurting 'Hundreds of Thousands' of Pe...
Pornhub said it's 'devastated' by PayPal's decision to stop payouts to models on its platform.
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[15-Nov-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
can we nuke paypal already


[15-Nov-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
> Glad to see PayPal supports old school values, like not letting women work.


[15-Nov-19 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
PayGamer


[15-Nov-19 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.newsweek.com/syria-assad-jeffrey-epstein-didnt-kill-himself-1471868

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Syria's Assad says Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself
"They said he had committed suicide in jail. However, he was killed because he knew a lot of vital secrets connected with very important people in the British and American regimes," Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said.
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[15-Nov-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[15-Nov-19 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[15-Nov-19 12:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1195119311880409090?s=21

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https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1195119311880409090?s=21
The rain & freezing cold couldn’t stop the support for ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ in Bossier City, Louisiana!!! https://t.co/LmSPCesJb6
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[15-Nov-19 12:47 AM] illumnious#7938
Are they for real


[15-Nov-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given most of them are probably heavy smokers, rain and freezing cold is probably something they're used to huddling in for smoke


[15-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get it, what is this tweet trying to prove


[15-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
that people showed up for a pre-planned event?


[15-Nov-19 12:56 AM] SemiDovich#0577
Trying to show that people support Trump


[15-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
so? we don't need a 4 second clip of nothing happening to prove that lol


[15-Nov-19 12:56 AM] SemiDovich#0577
Same way most politicians and their supporters take pictures of rallies


[15-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
according to a tweet at the time, the actual temperature was 45 degrees, not 32 degrees


[15-Nov-19 12:57 AM] SemiDovich#0577
:xd:


[15-Nov-19 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/OK_Dumbass/status/1195119912932532224

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Coup Laid (@OK_Dumbass)
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@kayleighmcenany @TrumpWarRoom @realDonaldTrump He was 45 minutes late because he had a crime-lovers' spat with Bill Barr.

Womp.  Womp.

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[15-Nov-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470579-rudy-giuliani-under-investigation-for-campaign-finance-lobbying

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Giuliani under investigation for alleged campaign finance, lobbyin...
President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is under investigation by federal prosecutors over possible campaign finance violations and accusations he failed to register as a foreign agent,
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[15-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But also


[15-Nov-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470581-doj-watchdog-wont-let-witnesses-submit-written-feedback-on

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DOJ watchdog won't let witnesses submit written feedback on invest...
The Justice Department will reportedly not allow witnesses in the ongoing inspector general (IG) investigation into the origins of the investigation into President Trump's campaign and Russian election interference to submit written feedback on dr
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[15-Nov-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/16/conservative-activists-want-to-outlaw-antisemitism-in-public-education-why-is-that-a-bad-thing

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Revealed: rightwing push to ban criticism of Israel on US campuses
Documents seen by Guardian show fresh attack on university debate under the guise of prohibiting antisemitism
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[15-Nov-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, that url


[15-Nov-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
comparing criticism of israel to antisemitism


[15-Nov-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
and then saying "why is that a bad thing"


[15-Nov-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
whoever wrote the working title of this article has a massive hardon for israel


[15-Nov-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
knowing that once the URL was made, it couldn't be changed


[15-Nov-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1195132507752206336

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC)
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@RubinReport This is the official Congressional press list, not a supporter mailing list.

Our apologies, as someone must have mistaken you for a journalist. That’ll be fixed right away.
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[15-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
a bit rude but okay


[15-Nov-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
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[15-Nov-19 03:21 AM] ononim#8141
WTF TSP I didn't knew you worked for North Korea


[15-Nov-19 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They forgot to drag him out into the street first


[15-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/yx1rblo

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A few shekels
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[15-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
> This is the issue with older people who haven't stayed up to date with the changing times- many older people have, but so many are clueless.

> Easier to believe that young people are just spoiled than to admit you've been tricked into making political choices that will destroy them.


[15-Nov-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[15-Nov-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"At another point during the confrontation, Judge Adams kicked Kaiser in the back. The confrontation ended when Kaiser pulled out a gun, shot Judge Adams once, and shot Judge Jacobs twice."
"The Commission and Judge Adams agree that an appropriate sanction for his misconduct is a 60-day suspension without pay. The Commission and Judge Jacobs agree that the appropriate sanction for his misconduct is a 30-day suspension without pay. The Commission and Judge Bell agree that the appropriate sanction for her misconduct is a 30-day suspension without pay."

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[15-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
why not just link the article lol


[15-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779339897/3-indiana-judges-suspended-after-white-castle-brawl-that-left-2-of-them-wounded

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3 Indiana Judges Suspended After White Castle Brawl That Left 2 Of...
The Indiana Supreme Court found that the three had "gravely undermined public trust." The fight apparently started when one of the judges raised a middle finger at two men yelling from a passing SUV.
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[15-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>shoot someone, no pay for 1-2 months


[15-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Harsh


[15-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure once he serves time for those 14 counts, he'll be a great judge to keep serving the community!


[15-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kansas once removed a judge for accessing porn while at work


[15-Nov-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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twigs (@notpixietit)
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his 1st day in Downing Street. corbyn, in his IRA balaclava, goes to spin the enormous Job Wheel to decide who gets a pay rise. it lands on mcdonalds workers. 

“what about the nurses” pleads his adviser 

“FUCK THEM” he screams
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[15-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was the judge blakk?


[15-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well and for telling a juvenile offender "no associating with Hispanic males under 21 unless family" but that was nearly a decade before removal


[15-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Johnsons first day back in office, in his Eton blazer, goes to spin the enormous Job Wheel to decide who gets made unemployed today. It lands on McDonald's workers.

"What about the nurses" pleads his adviser

"THEM TOO" he screams'


[15-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't appear the judge was black


[15-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There were a _lot_ of removals in the 90s for sexual harassment


[15-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worst one I probably ever saw was a judge who made a "joke" to people in court that went


[15-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Do you know the difference between a blowjob and a Caesar salad?"


[15-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No"


[15-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Perfect, let's do lunch"


[15-Nov-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/JWiqZh7

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More like the blue wall of bullshit
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[15-Nov-19 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZXsp00bl4

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The Rubin Report
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The View, Whistleblowers, & Trump Impeachment Inquiry | Donald Tru...
Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Donald Trump Jr. about his recent appearance on The View. He also discusses the Trump impeachment inquiry and the sca...
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[15-Nov-19 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did he run away mad when asked a question this time as well?


[15-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't know. give it a watch and see.


[15-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000006815692/syria-hospitals-russia.html

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We Proved Russian Pilots Bombed a Hospital. Then They Did It Again.
Four weeks ago, The Times provided visual evidence showing that the Russian Air Force bombed a Syrian hospital. Last Wednesday, Russia did it again.
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[15-Nov-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that Russia is committing war crimes in broad daylight.


[15-Nov-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If only we had a UN that wasn't based in the US, but like, an EU nation, and was actually willing to use military force against countries that commit war crimes.


[15-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, one of the only solutions for world peace is a Balkanized Russia


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I, too, look forward the 100 year wars that would follow


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if you break it up into like seven or eight countries


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how China should be as well


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't be bad.


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon and periodical nukes that show up from time to time.


[15-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
china literally has concentration camps atm, only they're HARVESTING ORGANS instead of gassing and burning them


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
china's gone above and beyond


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
and people aren't really willing to talk about that


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
more practical, all things considered.


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Immediate wars over natural resources


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And new ones every time some bit of siberia gets probed


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only response to any Chinese argument is footage of their concentration camps


[15-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
yep. Sounds fun.


[15-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "but you are lynching blacks" but actually valid


[15-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll never forget when their state media tried to cover Ferguson as a "wow America is such shit" thing


[15-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion

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Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifical...
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WKRC) - Ohio lawmakers are weighing in on how public schools can teach things like evolution. The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act. " Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as...
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[15-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[15-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
> Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifically wrong due to religion


[15-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
F to liberal progress xD


[15-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
> The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act." Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as the reasoning is because of their religious beliefs.

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[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
"liberal progress" wtf? liberals don't want this shit


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the ultimate in saying religion trumps rule of law


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the point.


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
you literally say that a religious student is right because of their religion


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a meme going around right wing circles


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Islam is right about women"


[15-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a means to bypass kids being brought up with objective truths etc.


[15-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause how dare the state say that some secular scientist, this GAL EE LAY YO GAL EE LAH, say that muh religion's wrong.


[15-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can be a genuine practicing Muslim after saying one sentence


[15-Nov-19 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then one minute later be a Christian


[15-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet this is the most protected class we have


[15-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
French Revolution didn't go far enuff tbh


[15-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
should've declared a holy war on the Pope


[15-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put him in a guillotine


[15-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cult of the Supreme Being is the ideal


[15-Nov-19 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Cult of Reason


[15-Nov-19 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously though I didn't understand how serious the grip of the clergy was on pre Revolutionary France until I read de Sade


[15-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason when the mob came to his prison he joined them.


[15-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And reasons why they beheaded the fukk out of nobility and clergy


[15-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very good reasons.


[15-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he likely had several serious mental illnesses


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely irrelevant


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pre-revolutionary France was the Church's bitch


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lokked him up largely for political reasons


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody *actually* cared about fukking teenagers


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just didn't want to commit *gasp* sodomy while doing it


[15-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True but people had protested it without the intense well sado masochistic angle he took


[15-Nov-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta do it missionary for the sole purpose of creating more bastards for your noble house


[15-Nov-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though it was all parody


[15-Nov-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do also note that Britain invaded Revolutionary France, more than once, to fight for the monarchy


[15-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of the people burning down the church and the state to create a new churchless popular state was just that horrid to them.


[15-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK FRANCE THEY BEAT US IN THE...OH DEAR GOD LONG LIV THE KING OF FRANCE!


[15-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odd because by then the monarchy was irrelevant and the inbred lordship ran everything


[15-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if it was just a coup to put other lords in power in some council, the British would probably be mixed on the whole thing


[15-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem was that many lords were taken out too


[15-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You think George III or IV did anything of value? Ha.


[15-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho in the end it ended up killing mostly commoners


[15-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
just by sheer numbers and the shifting of power, it devastated a lot of nobility


[15-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And at the end of the day, the very idea of actual democracy, spreading was scary


[15-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hav still not calmed down.


[15-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the entire point of the monarchy is to not do anything of value.


[15-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people come out ahead if nothing changes, especially if society is changing, and the law is outdated.


[15-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deposing a monarchy means putting in its place something that may actually do reforms.


[15-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reforms lead inevitably to the rich losing something.


[15-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a single king is easy to bribe


[15-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A whole big assembly is a lot harder to bribe.


[15-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
and if something changes, the names under the label 'rich people' are different, but everything else is largely the same. I.e. Soviet Union


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
so nah, change = anti-rich is a very silly narrative


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but that's the very point


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
if who is rich changes, then the current rich people are losing


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and 99% are still fucked


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their desire isn't to make sure *anyone* is on top


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
so the point of fighting and dying for that is ???


[15-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's to make sure *they specifically* are on top


[15-Nov-19 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  do you think mainstream religion will ever change with the current state of how society is changing?


[15-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
well, yeah, okay, I'll give you that.


[15-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is already screwed.


[15-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
People's beliefs over time are drifting away from church teachings


[15-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is no real trend in the opposite direction anywhere.


[15-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_misses the days where every village had its own pantheon of gods_

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[15-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking sun gods


[15-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that can even possibly persist to the far future without a societal collapse of catastrophic proportions really is barebones "spiritualism"


[15-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
that crap where you believe there's a god or gods but that they don't actually do anything tangible and hav no particular beliefs shared with others who vaguely agree on which gods exist


[15-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"My imaginary friend beats your imaginary friend"
"But mine can make it rain wh-"
"MY IMAGINARY FRIEND IS ABSOLUTE, IT KNOWS ALL, IT CONTROLS ALL, IT HAS CREATED A REALM OF INFINITE TORTURE SHOULD YOU QUESTION HIM"

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[15-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'll probably always be some residual element of that in society, but it will be terribly disorganized by its very nature.


[15-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual Catholicism and Islam and whatnot are doomed


[15-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Might take 500 years, but the Vatican will be a secular organization


[15-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that witches, and the burning of them, was all just a really retarded meme.


[15-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
One that would never fly in modern society.


[15-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What still pisses me off is people reee about the Spanish Inquisition


[15-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When all the bad shit was going on practically everywhere else in Europe


[15-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because there it was just mobs and priests


[15-Nov-19 06:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well you never know. If you assume the future society is still spread out over multiple relatively isolated locations (not nessesarily planets tho it would be a good example), it's within reason that mainstream religions would be able to take a hold over some of those, with only minor changes


[15-Nov-19 06:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But in Spain you had to file a formal complaint for heresy and investigators would have to come and there'd be trials with lawyers and the vast majority of cases ended in small fines or acquittals


[15-Nov-19 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  for some reason I was thinking of AI being worshiped like a god in the future, but what you said works too


[15-Nov-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if the AI enslaves humanity, sure


[15-Nov-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if it's some kind of society with like cyborg people everywhere, hell no.


[15-Nov-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it isn't isolation that caused religion to spread, it was gov't support with no real concept of critical thinking in the populace, everyone in a position of power said god this, god that, whether they believed it or not, so the common person took that as definitive


[15-Nov-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't in most places no longer does this


[15-Nov-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The church served as an international sort of framework to get the common people to believe in the monarchy and its justness etc.


[15-Nov-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now gov'ts the world over don't *need* that, they're very good at propaganda themselves.


[15-Nov-19 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I suppose that's about right.


[15-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If for whatever reason, Mars' gov't was some feudal mess of local lords, sure, overarching religion to keep the system in place...how you'd get there is very unclear.


[15-Nov-19 06:47 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you know, it's not nessesarily simply justifying the rule of the lords. Organised religions' purpose is motivate people to do... _things_, essentially just because.


[15-Nov-19 06:47 AM] Opponent#3498
if they justify the rule, they're helpful for the government and gonna be supported, but unless they're directly counter it's current interests they're unlikely to be opposed.


[15-Nov-19 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
> Mars' gov't
https://imgur.com/gallery/lyvo8

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[15-Nov-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people buy into the gov't, they will already do *things*


[15-Nov-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're not really seeing any dearth of people doing business because they're atheists.


[15-Nov-19 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think any religion, except probably jewish (I forgot the name), touches that side of thing. It's usually about the social side of things.


[15-Nov-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting everyone to sing and dance in church? People hav a lot of alternate means to get together socially.


[15-Nov-19 06:52 AM] Opponent#3498
well no.


[15-Nov-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US has trouble with getting people to gather socially right now for economic reasons.


[15-Nov-19 06:53 AM] Opponent#3498
let me think about how to phrase it.


[15-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
the abrahamic religions were so popular because the government made them popular


[15-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
they were very powerful tools of control


[15-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
it justified the entire feudal system


[15-Nov-19 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
basically creating an ingrained spiritual hierarchy


[15-Nov-19 07:14 AM] Opponent#3498
ok so. The way I see it, the government, the local religion, if any, the local societies of different scopes, if any, are all the potential sources of values for an individual, that lovely elusive moral/ethical/whatever else framework everyone loves to talk about. They can contradict themselves, and have various levels of relevance and... trustworthyness I suppose? at any given time. If different sources have different views on a specific issue, an individual generally has to pick one (or not, and be a massive hypocrite). The odd one generally gets thrown out, if one is commonly chosen over the others, it gets stronger, etc. 

Now, the important thing is, from what I've seen, especially in modern times, religion and government generally aim to go for non-interlapping sets of values. Past shit like 'ye shall not kill' that is simply baseline for a functioning society of any kind, the government promotes monetary values, and religion societal ones. The thing with LGBT, for instance, it's irrelevant for the government side (in general), the taxes they pay and the money they spend is as good as anyone, the lack of children is currently irrelevant etc. The religion has problems with that, because muh traditional values, image of god, whatever else. And then there's societies of different levels that have different ideas as well. And you gotta pick one.


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Opponent#3498
now you CAN get government-religious symbiosis. US, or Russia, or Saudi have various forms of that. And it's usually pretty horrifying.


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
"potential sources of value" is a really obscure way of saying "working to the bone for no compensation"


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's what I said, it's neither good nor bad.


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally how serfdom was justified


[15-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Opponent#3498
'working to the bone with no compensation' might be the goal, sure. But the tool has no political agenda.


[15-Nov-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
except, you know, the tool is so popular specifically because of the goal it enables


[15-Nov-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
you can have a functioning moral framework without religion


[15-Nov-19 07:17 AM] Opponent#3498
true, then it'll be replaced by something else.


[15-Nov-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, what's wrong with a little spiritualism in your science? there's plenty of magic to go around in this amazing universe


[15-Nov-19 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
>:V


[15-Nov-19 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[15-Nov-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point is that gov't propaganda replaces.


[15-Nov-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The justifying feudal thing was *about* moral values.


[15-Nov-19 07:22 AM] Opponent#3498
religion was always the source of answers the government (or 'people') was unable to provide. You can't _tell_ people, killing each other is bad because it hurts our revenue and economic growth. Cause then they'll start thinking about what _else_ is hindering their revenue and turn on you. Or, alternatively, the answers that cannot be provided, rather than wouldn't be. Simple concept of an afterlife, do whatever you have to in the _now_, there will be a _tommorow_. Helps motivate people practically for free (it works for me). And things like that, that are simply unkown (don't really buy the concept of unknowable myself)


[15-Nov-19 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
we've been figuring out how to run societies for a very long time now and we're getting pretty good at promoting the general welfare


[15-Nov-19 07:24 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, now it becomes less relevant.


[15-Nov-19 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
even if people do live in poverty fewer people are dying than ever before and food and water are abundant


[15-Nov-19 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
disease is in severe remission from advances in medicine


[15-Nov-19 07:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and so if you were to try to come up with an objective moral code you might define overall social wellbeing as the metric by which you judge the morality of decisions


[15-Nov-19 07:26 AM] Opponent#3498
...yes, and this is something that could credibly replace religions going forward.


[15-Nov-19 07:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it's very socialist on the surface, but that stigma will diminish with time as well.


[15-Nov-19 07:27 AM] byte[]#2610
there's nothing wrong with socialism


[15-Nov-19 07:28 AM] byte[]#2610
jesus in the NT was pretty much a socialist but conservatives don't like that line of reasoning


[15-Nov-19 07:29 AM] byte[]#2610
because it makes their irrational fear look dumb and being made a fool of is very ego-damaging


[15-Nov-19 11:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
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[15-Nov-19 11:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hongkongpunk 2019


[15-Nov-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779504909/watchdog-report-trump-official-punished-public-servant-over-her-iranian-heritage

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Watchdog Report: Trump Official Punished Public Servant Over Her I...
The State Department's inspector general released a report concluding that Trump officials demoted a national security expert over her Iranian roots and the perception that she was disloyal to Trump.
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[15-Nov-19 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
seems odd, you'd think everyone questionable would be long gone by now


[15-Nov-19 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
so what's the point of setting someone up as a martyr right when the going gets tough?


[15-Nov-19 01:10 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, back in 2017


[15-Nov-19 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
yep, now's the time to cash in alllll the debts.


[15-Nov-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/14/779318947/yovanovitch-ex-ambassador-to-ukraine-will-testify-in-trump-impeachment-hearings

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Yovanovitch, Ex-Ambassador To Ukraine, Will Testify In Trump Impea...
The diplomat will be the sole witness Friday, the second day of public testimony in the impeachment inquiry. State Department colleagues say she was removed after a slander campaign by Rudy Giuliani.
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[15-Nov-19 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/04485e9d13214220828687fc98c1408f

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Free broadband? UK Labour Party promises nationalization
LONDON (AP) — The British Labour Party's latest plan for public ownership of big industries sent shivers through the telecoms sector Friday with an electoral promise to nationalize part of the...
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[15-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it feels like the world can't really make up their minds.


[15-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
they keep shuffling from privatisation to nationalisation and back


[15-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
expecting every time things are gonna magically get better


[15-Nov-19 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
cause muh labor movement, or muh free market, or whatever


[15-Nov-19 01:47 PM] Opponent#3498
we're currently in privatisation phase. Willing to sell _everything_ to the highest bidder and fuck the consequences. Cause clearly the government is stagnant and corrupt, and private owners gonna do better, right? Especially those mythical '_Western investors_'


[15-Nov-19 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
preferably sell 2-3 times for each item, and then declare the sale was illegitimate and cancel it after taking the money


[15-Nov-19 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
joys of post-Soviet business.


[15-Nov-19 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/14/europe/veneto-council-climate-change-floods-trnd-intl-scli/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Italian council is flooded immediately after rejecting measures on...
Veneto regional council, which is located on Venice's Grand Canal, was flooded for the first time in its history on Tuesday night -- just after it rejected measures to combat climate change.
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[15-Nov-19 01:49 PM] Opponent#3498
delicious irony.


[15-Nov-19 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/13/20963459/youtube-google-coppa-ftc-fine-settlement-youtubers-new-rules

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YouTube’s new kids’ content system has creators scrambling
YouTubers could lose thousands for mislabeling content
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[15-Nov-19 03:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[15-Nov-19 04:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Join dailymotion


[15-Nov-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i joined vimeo instead


[15-Nov-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
daily motion is terrible


[15-Nov-19 04:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Woah


[15-Nov-19 04:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Join stupidvideos.com


[15-Nov-19 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
I didn’t know that shut down


[15-Nov-19 04:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
[Normal brain] Join youtube.
[Big brain] Join dailymotion/vimeo.
[Bigger brain] Distribute on torrents.
[Biggest brain] Distribute on VHS.


[15-Nov-19 04:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj2TCZf90OY

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David Pakman Is Wrong About Bolivia: Let's Not Be Useful Idiots | ...
The truth about the Bolivia coup & how we must avoid legitimising our opponents. Support me on Patreon: https://patreon.com/BadEmpanada Follow me on Twitter:...
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[15-Nov-19 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
this is actually a good illustration. If you _really_ want to push an idea, bribe a guy normally against this kind of thing.


[15-Nov-19 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
trickier than swaying a neutral party, but oh is it so worth it.


[15-Nov-19 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
and the referendum is another perfect illustration. Sometimes more is less. A weak or weak-er argument weakens your claim.


[15-Nov-19 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
and heavens help you if you're wrong on that argument.


[15-Nov-19 05:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1195379578358960128?s=21 fuck you

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Stock Market up big. New and Historic Record. Job, jobs, jobs!
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[15-Nov-19 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he just saying words now?


[15-Nov-19 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dogwhistle cupcake! cars, cars, cars! Pancakes!


[15-Nov-19 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure people made text generators in his style exactly long ago.


[15-Nov-19 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe he just fires it up every now and then


[15-Nov-19 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Roger Stone guilty on all seven counts


[15-Nov-19 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
who's that?


[15-Nov-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
president's political advisor during the campaign


[15-Nov-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
he was found guilty of lying to congress and to the FBI as well as campaign finance violations (taking money from russian nationals)


[15-Nov-19 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
another one bites the bus.


[15-Nov-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Gym Jordan: "Is he really that credible though? Bible mentions Jesus is a pretty ok guy but at the same time, he has some really MASSIVE FLAAWS, ok? We've all seen that. American people have seen that. Jesus is weak and can be easily manipulated, its THAT obvious. And yet this SHAM commission tries to present him as a credible witness, who can be a KEY PART OF PROCESS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THE PRESIDENT FOLKS. Guy who could not even stand up to some romans and makes his living out of public preaching of liberal socialistic theories. He did not even go through military service in his life. It's really disgusting and I'm absolutely ashamed I have to be part of this FAKE TRIAL to smear the president."


[15-Nov-19 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/878716/trump-blows-republicans-entire-yovanovitch-hearing-strategy-single-tweet

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Trump blows Republicans' entire Yovanovitch hearing strategy with ...
If Republicans had one goal going into the House Intelligence Committee's hearing with former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, it was do not be on the attack. Democrats' strategy on Friday hinged on painting Yovanovitch as a "sympathetic victim of bullying by [Ru...
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[15-Nov-19 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
It's also more witness intimidation for the impeachment pile


[15-Nov-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
bold move, to sabotage his own defense.


[15-Nov-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
although, odds are, he really didn't know much


[15-Nov-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
the smart people have given up on him long ago.


[15-Nov-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
There is no defense


[15-Nov-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
There is only stonewalling


[15-Nov-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There strategy is to scream and deny, and scream more, and call witnesses out for drinking water


[15-Nov-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
How dare he drink water inmy presence! He is completely unqualified because he drank the water he brought with him in a filthy peasant bottle!


[15-Nov-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-stunned-george-kent-impeachment-water-bottle-1471711

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Fox News stunned that impeachment witness drank water: "Fish are n...
Laura Ingraham attacked George Kent for bringing a large water bottle to a hearing lasting several hours.
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[15-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I've seen that.


[15-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
this article should be linked in Urban Dictionary under 'desperation'


[15-Nov-19 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what today will bring


[15-Nov-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should make popcorn and watch the hearign currently going on


[15-Nov-19 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
wasn't Yovanovich supposed to be today?


[15-Nov-19 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure


[15-Nov-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She is


[15-Nov-19 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Oof Watch Live: Marie Yovanovitch's testimony in impeachment hearings https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-impeachment-inquiry-hearings-73286213870

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Watch Live: Marie Yovanovitch's testimony at impeachment hearing
The House Intelligence Committee holds its second public hearing in President Trump's impeachment inquiry. Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, will testify.
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[15-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obsessed with this whistleblower


[15-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if it is the rumored name who cares


[15-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, it's already done then


[15-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP won't trust anyone


[15-Nov-19 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Apple bans vaping apps from the App Store https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-bans-vaping-apps-app-store-n1082996

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Apple bans vaping apps from the App Store
The move comes amid reports of thousands of vaping-related illnesses and 42 vaping-related deaths.
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[15-Nov-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-brags-donald-jrs-book-is-number-one-on-ny-times-bestseller-list-but-his-campaign-bought-it-in-bulk-report/

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Trump brags Donald Jr’s book ‘is number one on NY Times bestse...
President Donald Trump has called The New York Times “fake news,” “biased,” “inaccurate,” and “a Fraud” with “Zero Credibility.” But Wednesday night he was only too happy to cite the “failing” paper of record to brag that Donald Trump, Jr.’s new boo...
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[15-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like the bestseller list should be updated to account for fraud.


[15-Nov-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It still counts as sales if someone buys 20k copies off (the Washington Post related) Amazon


[15-Nov-19 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
#TrumpBriberyCrimes is trending


[15-Nov-19 08:33 PM] ononim#8141

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[15-Nov-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2f420045618b4106b6fa7419a3d75b8e

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The Latest: White House defends Trump tweets during hearing
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on President Donald Trump and House impeachment hearings (all times local): 2:10 p.m. The White House says President Donald Trump’s tweets criticizing...
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[15-Nov-19 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2:10 p.m.

The White House says President Donald Trump’s tweets criticizing former U.S. Ambassador Maria Yovanovitch as she testified before the House as part of its impeachment inquiry was “not witness intimidation.”

Trump has drawn criticism for tweeting early in Yovanovitch’s testimony that everywhere the career diplomat was posted “turned bad.”

Yovanovitch said the tweets were “very intimidating” to her and other witnesses.

But White House spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham says Trump did nothing wrong. She says in a statement that the tweets were “simply the President’s opinion, which he is entitled to.”

She’s also criticized the hearing as a “partisan political process” and “totally illegitimate, charade stacked against the President.”


[15-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well then, I'm sure Trump won't object to people saying their "opinion" about shooting him dead.


[15-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no no, "I'm gonna put a bullet in your ass for every lie you've told, and by the end you'll be nothing but metal" isn't a threat, it's just an opinion!


[15-Nov-19 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/former-employee-sues-company-claiming-anti-gay-discrimination-n1082681

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He alleges he was ostracized at work and eventually fired from the New York City event-planning company.
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[15-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah nice, *compound* discrimination on the basis of sex.


[15-Nov-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure the courts will love it.


[15-Nov-19 09:09 PM] Opponent#3498
how to shoot yourself in the face: the manual


[15-Nov-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
So much wrong here


[15-Nov-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Not just the discrimination itself


[15-Nov-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
But that the boss willingly acknowledged to the employee that he _deliberately_ pays women employees only half as much


[15-Nov-19 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
This business is about to get completely destroyed in court basically


[15-Nov-19 09:10 PM] Opponent#3498
he did everything he could possibly do wrong, in a single move.


[15-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a power move right there.


[15-Nov-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
You could call it a _Donald_

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[15-Nov-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d2ac5095b9884dc3b629fe95797efc48

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A group of conservative lawmakers in Ohio has introduced a bill to outlaw abortion outright. State Rep. Candice Keller is a Republican from Middletown and says backers...
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[15-Nov-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:  here we go again


[15-Nov-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
🗣️


[15-Nov-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
huh, there's a talking head emoji now


[15-Nov-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470656-yovanovitch-says-solomon-stories-were-used-to-push-false-allegations

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Yovanovitch says John Solomon's columns were used to push false al...
Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testified Friday that a shadow campaign led by Rudy Giuliani and his associates appeared to be behind what she said were false attacks against her that led to her ouster.
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[15-Nov-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[15-Nov-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/11/robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-the-single-leading-source-of-anti-vax-ads-on-facebook/

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the single leading source of anti-vax ads...
Researchers dig into Facebook's ad library.
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[15-Nov-19 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
We really do live in a society


[15-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Stop Mandatory Vaccination is a for-profit venture


[15-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck


[15-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
You can make money off of this


[15-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[15-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What pays companies better, a one-shot vaccination that costs 15 cents per shot, or a crisis treatment and potential life-long medication from complications?


[15-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So yeah, I can imagine a venture like that has some investors


[15-Nov-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus idiot celebrity donors that want little Jacquilne to only be treated with rhinestones and early morning sunlight reflected off silver mirrors


[15-Nov-19 09:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn, I only have sterling silver mirrors 😔


[15-Nov-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/transcript-shows-wh-made-up-details-of-trumps-zelensky-call

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Transcript Shows WH Made Up Details of Trump’s Zelensky Call
The readout released Friday doesn’t even mention the word “corruption.”
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[15-Nov-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-reporter-grasps-at-straws-constitution-doesnt-say-anything-about-witness-intimidation

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Fox News Reporter Grasps at Straws: Constitution ‘Doesn’t Say ...
Chad Pergram’s analysis came moments after Fox News anchor Bret Baier said that Trump’s tweet could potentially add an article of impeachment against the president.
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[15-Nov-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the constitution didn't say I couldn't beat my wife to death when she refuses sex at 11 years of age.


[15-Nov-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What are these liberal ideas about treating women like people?


[15-Nov-19 10:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/joshua__frank/status/1195394177070092289

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[15-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] to be fair


[15-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His family has a bad history with shots

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[15-Nov-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/11/devin-nunes-demands-satirical-internet-cow-stop-making-fun-of-him-or-else

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Devin Nunes Demands Satirical Internet Cow Stop Making Fun Of Him...
Snowflake alert!
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[15-Nov-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8cb3db123bb54883882906675c38bafa

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Anti-robocall bill likely as House, Senate reach compromise
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[15-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wonder what the riders are


[15-Nov-19 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh btw, unfortunately for Trump, witness intimidation is *not* protected speech, as evidenced by none other than Stone's trial earlier today. As you may recall, Stone made a similar defense citing the first amendment against his one charge of witness tampering...and he was still found guilty. The President is not granted more rights to free speech than anyone else.


[15-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe they'll make phone sex illegal


[15-Nov-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying it's to protect women


[15-Nov-19 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Nov-19 11:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://i.imgur.com/IaUs8jl.jpg


[15-Nov-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Wilson again


[15-Nov-19 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/all-the-presidents-mooks-couldnt-put-trumps-perfect-call-together-again

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Wednesday’s impeachment hearing was a contest of gravitas that the skells, sycophants, and dead-end goons on the committee were bound to lose—and did.
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[15-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why doesn't he just testify under oath and end it all


[15-Nov-19 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
"I did it"


[15-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he has 6 people physically restraining him from doing just that


[15-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump in an actual interview would destroy himself before even questioned


[15-Nov-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And everyone knows it


[15-Nov-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want Bolton and Mulvaney to talk


[15-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bolton might, Mulvaney will never


[15-Nov-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Why won't Congress force anyone to testify


[15-Nov-19 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Get the Capitol Police to drag their ass into the hearing


[15-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be spinned as a coup


[15-Nov-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
They're already spinning it as a coup


[15-Nov-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think this will change anything


[16-Nov-19 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the main reason is that House democrats, for whatever reason, are afraid of legitimizing the claims the Right is making - that this is political theater, that it's purely partisan, etc. The GOP were *asking* to be arrested on-camera in the videos they posted of the SCIF storming


[16-Nov-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so instead of using the power of the Sergeant-at-arms to frog-walk the Republicans, they're just ignoring them


[16-Nov-19 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
That isn't working out that great for them from a policy perspective


[16-Nov-19 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
indeed not


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the idea actually is to split Republicans


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
get enuff to admit something's wrong and defect


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
the rest can then be arrested


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So his lawyers are arguing something called "absolute temporary presidential immunity"


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in they think


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've had a bone to pick with Pelosi's ability to send a message from the beginning


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump could take a bribe and brag about it, or actually murder someone


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes, that is what they think


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you just arrest Republicans to begin with, then you make them unified against you


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he couldn't even be _investigated_ until he left office


[16-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they play the victim card ever harder.


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
One of his lawyers said on TV a few weeks ago that Trump could actually shoot someone and be immune from prosecution


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're also "joking" about a third term


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is to get some of them to peel away from the pakk.


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more you can push it, the higher chances you get some


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20 senators


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you hav a bunch of Republicans ready to vote to remove


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
you arrest the obstructionist shits remaining


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
push thru the vote


[16-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
then remove the obstructionist shits from office


[16-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They need to voir dire the Senate


[16-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the gameplan isn't to send a message to Republicans, it's to finally see them fracture, and use that with them pushing new heights of corruption to get those that stay core to the corruption destroyed.


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And whatever a supermajority is after striking them, that's removal


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if Mitch McConnell could just be thrown out of the senate


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
for breaking the law


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
>they need to vore ... the Senate


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of just being given some minor penalties that hamper his obstructionism.


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
:nut:


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think of it like taking down the mafia.


[16-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want them to shoot everyone.


[16-Nov-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Apparently Yovanovitch said the thing I was hoping Taylor would


[16-Nov-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> Stewart, who called impeachment “nonsense,” implied it was appropriate for Trump to seek a Ukrainian investigation of Burisma, the national-gas firm that put Joe Biden’s son on its board. Yovanovitch responded that “we have a process for that” that Trump did not follow, one involving communication between the Justice Department and its Ukrainian counterpart under a mutual legal-assistance treaty. Stewart reiterated the question “regardless of the process,” although corruption definitionally routes around official channels in pursuit of private agendas.


[16-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland is testifying publicly right


[16-Nov-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
God I hope so


[16-Nov-19 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Gonna be juicy AF


[16-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also what is with this Ukraine conspiracy theory


[16-Nov-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
You have to be a conspiracy theorist to be a republican in 2019


[16-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-15-19/index.html>

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[16-Nov-19 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Ooh boy


[16-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ooh good stuff


[16-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Zelensky loves Trump's ass confirmed :nut:


[16-Nov-19 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
PLEASE tell me we get Sondland


[16-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take my Sondland well done, please.


[16-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wednesday morning


[16-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jennifer Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence, and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council aide next Tuesday morning

Kurt Volker, the former US special envoy to Ukraine, and Tim Morrison, a National Security Council aide, next Tuesday afternoon

US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland on Wednesday morning

Laura Cooper, a deputy assistant secretary of defense and David Hale, the under secretary of State for political affairs, on the Wednesday afternoon

Hill on Thursday morning.


[16-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470730-ex-mass-officials-say-patrick-fired-them-for-their-efforts-to-get-his

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Former Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick's entry into the 2020 Democratic presidential race is drawing renewed scrutiny toward his efforts to oust officials who had tried to put his brother-in-law, a convicted rapist, on the state's sex offender registry.
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[16-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If he were a Republican his run would get stronger


[16-Nov-19 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610

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[16-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, even if presidential immunity is by and large a good idea


[16-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
when a president commits witness intimidation in real time


[16-Nov-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
police should rush in and fukking arrest him


[16-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, imagine a world where it's actually okay


[16-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
to in the middle of testimony against you


[16-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
start calling for the person on the witness stand to be discredited


[16-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just walk up to the courtroom steps and get an angry mob going


[16-Nov-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That shit should be treated as an emergency.


[16-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if he were in the room and did it


[16-Nov-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would accept it


[16-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans talking about how shit wouldn't work in a trial


[16-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This would be mistrial material


[16-Nov-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/former-employee-sues-company-claiming-anti-gay-discrimination-n1082681

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He alleges he was ostracized at work and eventually fired from the New York City event-planning company.
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[16-Nov-19 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
```Gay man's pay slashed so he'd be on par with 'the other females in the office,' lawsuit claims```


[16-Nov-19 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Nov-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
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[16-Nov-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
graphic footage from bolivia


[16-Nov-19 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
more in the thread


[16-Nov-19 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-clemency-army-officers-accused-of-war-crimes-navy-seal-eddie-gallagher

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Trump grants clemency to 2 Army officers accused of war crimes, re...
President Trump has granted clemency to two Army officers accused or convicted of war crimes and restored Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher to the rank of chief petty officer after he was docked a pay grade after being convicted of posing for a photo with a dead Islamic State (ISIS...
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[16-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Always nice to know that the effort my family and extended family in the armed forces put in to be decent human beings during armed conflicts doesn't mean shit because you can just go on and by a psycopath anyway and someone like Trump will forgive you and FOX NEWS and OAN will put you on a pedestal as a hero


[16-Nov-19 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's testing the waters. You know he's doing this to convince his 🍑 mint buddies that he'll pardon them too


[16-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that during this administration we cannot forget Abu Ghraib


[16-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But remember, Ellen said Dubya is a cool guy.


[16-Nov-19 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
abu ghraib?


[16-Nov-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big scandal in Iraq


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are so quick to forget how much of a war criminal George W. Bush was


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because of Obama years and then Trump


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But holy shit


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wasnt really news focused back then, so i dont knwo much of the george bush era war crimes


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was mostly Cheney, to be fair, but yes, holy shit.


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) everything under the Sun.


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
E v e r y t h i n g.


[16-Nov-19 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was like 14


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to George Bush, torture is okay


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and legal


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cheney was acting president twice, but really the real president for 8 years


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and should be used at every opportunity


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if the person committed no crime


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i knew about the torture stuff, but i mean specific scandals


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was like 12 but my brother was 17


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I knew what was going on


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're vaguely possibly related to someone who was a terrorist? BLARE LOUD MUSIC, ELECTRIFY THEIR NUTS, AND YELL AT THEM FOREVER


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
UNTIL THEY DIE


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(12 near the end)


[16-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abu Ghraib was a prison in Iraq


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
it got famous cause the photos got out


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
showing smiling soldiers cheering on the horrible abuse of middle easterners who likely did nothing wrong


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what's funny


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Swiftboats to this day get upset when you use "Swiftboating" as a verb


[16-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Abu-ghraib-leash.jpg

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[16-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they fucked Kerry over hard


[16-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the standard of treatment in Abu Ghraib was "let's try to one-up Saddam and become demons from a horror movie, but with less blood"


[16-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not things you're supposed to see outside an extreme scat fetishist convention ||https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Abu_ghraib_feces_06a.jpg ||

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[16-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones with the soldiers smiling are the worst by far. This is one of the milder ones https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Abu_Ghraib_48.jpg

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Abu_Ghraib_48.jpg


[16-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just so surreal.


[16-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they've got just an utter cereal commercial level smile going on


[16-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
as they treat people like furniture


[16-Nov-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and worse.


[16-Nov-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that was a cereal ad, i don;t think mikey would be liking this...


[16-Nov-19 04:06 AM] ononim#8141
Reminder what almost all of these people, and especialy thse who allowed this to happen or even comanded it, will face no consequences for it


[16-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abu Ghraib is pretty solid evidence that bad environmental factors can make people utterly ghoulish.


[16-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this was the tip of the iceberg, realistically.


[16-Nov-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Bush Administration wanted it this way in every facility.


[16-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Trump was talking about bombing innocent civilians on purpose


[16-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't that unbelievable


[16-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire critical platform of the Republican party is that Arabs aren't people and should never be treated as such.


[16-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Abu Ghraib repeated.


[16-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wasn't unusual for what he wanted, he was unusual for being able to say it outright and get applause.


[16-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an indicator that the racists just don't fukking care anymore about being seen for what they are.


[16-Nov-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might put up a big show about being called nazis, but they don't *actually* care, at this stage they will just keep doing what they do as much as they can, and it's on us to stop them.


[16-Nov-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only real hope is defeating them in elections and then using the judiciary to slam them for their lawbreaking.


[16-Nov-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They forced them to perform oral sex on each other


[16-Nov-19 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's one of the worse images.


[16-Nov-19 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like not even the worst most unfair prisons of antiquity were this cruel


[16-Nov-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eh, I'm sure some were but like


[16-Nov-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't what the king would usually want


[16-Nov-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Bush did.


[16-Nov-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making people rape each other as punishment in dirty dungeons is normally one of those things where you go "okay this might be pushing realism on this episode of Game of Thrones, isn't someone gonna point out this isn't in line with the faith"


[16-Nov-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho even that needs a bit of further explanation, that like, it only happened once on GoT, and it was by Cersei, as punishment to the last person loyal to the faith in the capital, after she'd murdered all her other enemies


[16-Nov-19 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even THEN it made some pretty decent sense.


[16-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, someone from medieval times as a monarch might *want* to do that, but the church was so powerful in the day it would be rare to get away with it, you'd expect these things to be done by subordinates nobody's looking at.


[16-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut, modern times, completely different society where we generally treat others well instead of throwing them in dark dungeons and saying none of the guards will be chekked up on


[16-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush.


[16-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush did it.


[16-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People shouldn't fear the Inquisition when they time travel. They should fear Bush.


[16-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the witch burnings thruout Europe were more merciful.


[16-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
9/11 killed what, 3000 people


[16-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
At most, yeah.


[16-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(before accounting for lung diseases caused by all the random shit used in office construction being turned into fine particles)


[16-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We responded with the destruction of the Middle East for centuries


[16-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(thank you Mitch for deciding that people who try to rescue others don't deserve health insurance, because then the gov't would lose money)


[16-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Picture 2119


[16-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think Dubai will be like how it is now?


[16-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that the war in Iraq was started under false pretenses.


[16-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Rudy crippled the NYPD months before 9/11


[16-Nov-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that when this was uncovered, a CIA operative was rapidly revealed


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans naming the whistleblower isn't a new thing


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is their playbook.


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They used to be less intense about it, but **this is their playbook**


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do they want from him


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be lynched?


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally publicly, put up on YouTube


[16-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if the video gets taken down, they'll use that to say YouTube is silencing conservatives.


[16-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are angry at Facebook for trying to scrub the name btw


[16-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They've drunk the Kool Aid so much they forget they won the rust belt by under 70k votes


[16-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, their playbook says to be vicious


[16-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
claim the moral highground, then set it on fire while someone else is inside


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump plays way too much to the people who would vote for him whenever


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Whataboutism really is, when you think about it


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And not twice Obama voters who got him elected


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Burning down the moral high ground.


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to make everyone apathetic when they do utterly horrible shit


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they can just murder those that oppose them


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and install a dictatorship


[16-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the goal.


[16-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If at any point, Democracy doesn't serve them, well, they don't care about it.


[16-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just try to kill it.


[16-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, @prism stryder(intexda) always remember that George Bush/Dick Cheney are like, worse than most kids show villains, and a lot of people forget that cause it's been over a decade, and many like you were just too young at the time.


[16-Nov-19 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Sabrina Harman, Lynndie England


[16-Nov-19 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/12/05/against-economics/

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Against Economics
There is a growing feeling, among those who have the responsibility of managing large economies, that the discipline of economics is no longer fit for purpose. It is beginning to look like a science designed to solve problems that no longer exist.
https://cdn.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/graeber_1-120519.jpg


[16-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta share a hot take


[16-Nov-19 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is brash and doesn't give a fuck just like Sanders and the competition will be between the both of them for who can take advantage of the "I'm socialist but wouldn't advertise it" market


[16-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But if I were any Democratic president elected in 2020 I would give any real candidate positions simply for the unity of the party


[16-Nov-19 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if I were Hillary in 2016 I would have picked Bernie as my VP


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once anyone below Bernie is gone, Warren is top


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie can't really win, he's hated too much by capitalists.


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put Bernie in the DoL


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren can win.


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren will pick Pete.


[16-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty obvious by now.


[16-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give Harris the AG, let Yang be Secretary of the Treasury


[16-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iowa likes Pete a lot but I'm not sure


[16-Nov-19 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'd be ready in 2028


[16-Nov-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not giv Harris AG


[16-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, too much bullshit is being perpetuated from fiscal policy to healthcare


[16-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need evidence-based policy


[16-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
strongly


[16-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is not a good person for it.


[16-Nov-19 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh Harris isn't a good fit for much of anything


[16-Nov-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, harris would be a terrible pick for anything


[16-Nov-19 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/10012252/kamala-harris.jpg


[16-Nov-19 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
she's basically a far-right-winger in hiding because those are *really* unpopular in hawaii


[16-Nov-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
what? kamala harris is in california


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, who am I thinking of


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
she was the california AG


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
gabbard is the hawaiian


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
and she's a bernie supporter


[16-Nov-19 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's midnight


[16-Nov-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know, it's been a long day keeping up with just what's happened today


[16-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
harris personally blocked releasing an innocent man who had his conviction overturned from prison


[16-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
she's also deeply in the pockets of the private prison industry


[16-Nov-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Harris’s commitment to harsh punitive measures wasn’t limited to the three-strikes law. For all her recent concern about the incarceration of women and its economic effects, as district attorney, she successfully championed a statewide version of an anti-truancy law she had put in place in San Francisco that threatened parents of chronically truant children with as much as a $2,000 fine and a year in jail. By October 2012, two mothers had been imprisoned under the law.


[16-Nov-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
she also championed a law that would put parents in prison and fine them if their children are truant to school


[16-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
> The Larsen case was a travesty of justice from start to finish. In 1999, when two police officers claimed they saw Larsen, who had earlier in his life been convicted for burglary, pull a six-inch-long knife from his waistband and throw it under a car, he was sentenced to twenty-seven years to life under the three-strikes law supported by Harris.


[16-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Forget for a second that the sentence was unduly harsh for the crime in question. Police had wrongly targeted Larsen for a search in the first place, and witnesses reported that it wasn’t Larsen but the man he was with who had thrown the knife. In trial, Larsen’s incompetent lawyer (who would later be disbarred) didn’t investigate a single witness, nor present one in trial.


[16-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Eleven years later, a judge reversed the conviction due to the lack of evidence and incompetence of Larson’s attorney’s. Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality.


[16-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Tens of thousands of people petitioned Harris to release Larsen, and numerous civil rights groups similarly called on her to do the right thing. But even when he was eventually released from custody after fourteen years, Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit.


[16-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit.


[16-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr harris is terrible and should be kicked out of politics


[16-Nov-19 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
> on districts
> i think we should start with something like "all districts are defined as a convex polygon (treating two points on the state border as ok as well)", possibly with some sort of exception to allow a state with two major cities to define each city as a district and then the rest of the state as their third (for example)
> they'd still be able to create wonky regions but it'd be a _lot_ harder


[16-Nov-19 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
what do you think of this @Nebbie


[16-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually overcomplicating it


[16-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Districts should be formed by splitting the state with straight lines recursively


[16-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning a line can only end at its intersection with another, counting the state border as a line


[16-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No "carving" behavior, your line cannot change direction


[16-Nov-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this is what the Against Economics thing was referencing with regards to banking https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf


[16-Nov-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
one big point is that people get fractional reserve banking wrong


[16-Nov-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
fractional reserve banking really just is about having a reasonable amount of reserves


[16-Nov-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reserves **do not** cause money generation


[16-Nov-19 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead, the money generation leads to higher reserves.


[16-Nov-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially banks are really just control mechanisms on money creation and transfer that make sure people owe each other in a sane way.


[16-Nov-19 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't even really view them as being containers of money.


[16-Nov-19 10:54 AM] Opponent#3498
Re(eeee): Bush the war criminal. It's an amazing thing to me, to believe the polticians are not, generally, all uniformely the same with similar goals shared and influenced by their backers within a given time period. From what I've seen, the rest of the world got a different message from US. The only thing that ever changes with different presidents or parties, is the brands (not even the types) of the bombs, shells and insurgent manuals that bring democracy to wherever US has financial interests.


[16-Nov-19 10:54 AM] Opponent#3498
you somehow treat it always very different. That Dems aren't actually lying. That if they didn't get caught as badly as Bush did, they're better.


[16-Nov-19 10:55 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe you're right. But it's harder thing to grasp to an outsider than effing string theory.


[16-Nov-19 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, show me where Obama or Clinton or Carter at any point tried to institute a campaign of brutal torture and human rights abuses against people because of their race.


[16-Nov-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You continually go to it being absurd that the difference I'm alleging between parties exist, as I continually provide evidence for it


[16-Nov-19 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Democrats are not a magic fix-it party as you may think I'm trying to say.


[16-Nov-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that Democrats' interests generally align with a view of the world that is much more geared towards treating other people well


[16-Nov-19 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that that is actually **the main difference** between them and Republicans


[16-Nov-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They regularly show more adhereence to process, more respect for others, and more respect for actual attempts to find objective truth.


[16-Nov-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
democrats don't seem to go specifically out of their way to cause as many human right's violations as possible and then cover them up


[16-Nov-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

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Operation Condor
Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States–backed campaign of political repression and state terror involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents, officially and formally i...
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[16-Nov-19 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will *almost never* see Republicans trying to use experts and the court system all prim and proper to find a reasonable course of action.


[16-Nov-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
this almost killed reagan's presidency


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason it didn't was because someone willingly sacrificed themselves as the political scapegoat


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are more than happy most of the time to *actually play by the rules*


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the difference between parties.


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just Coke vs Pepsi


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, in the end it's all so much smokescreen. A largely political spectacle, like current ongoings.


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's human rights vs big business rights


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Opponent#3498
the court system isn't and was never designed to be useful, it's intended to reinforce government's rule. The end.


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just a deflectionary argument against there being any substance.


[16-Nov-19 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
both sides are bad, so vote republican


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Opponent#3498
the faith in rule of law is also probably uniquely american.


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's all a smokescreen, maybe we should be fixing what's behind the smokescreen


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
BSABSVR


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
um, no


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
messing with society and causing reforms according to you is just liberal nonsense


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's a western thing, not just american


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
so we shouldn't dare try to mess with it.


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Opponent#3498
despite how fucked up you say US laws are, you desperately believe in it.


[16-Nov-19 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
france, germany, norway, the UK, etc


[16-Nov-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't to blindly trust the law


[16-Nov-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is to START by improving the damn law


[16-Nov-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that it respects people's rights


[16-Nov-19 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then using it as a tool to improve society by that ideal


[16-Nov-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to just not believing there's anything you can do, and as a result never improving society.


[16-Nov-19 11:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, okay, you win. I know your positions on this, and you know mine.


[16-Nov-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your positions aren't grounded in actual statistics or facts of any kind


[16-Nov-19 11:07 AM] Opponent#3498
I know what will you respond to anything I say, and you kinda got the gist already.


[16-Nov-19 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you don't seem to believe in the existence of fact


[16-Nov-19 11:08 AM] Opponent#3498
statistics and facts heavy depend on who gets to count them anyway. This I experienced first-hand.


[16-Nov-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe you shouldn't just submit to corruption like that.


[16-Nov-19 11:08 AM] Opponent#3498
so no, I will not accept it here.


[16-Nov-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there is a *huge* cultural difference with the west.


[16-Nov-19 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was an article about the matter linked earlier


[16-Nov-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tl;dr of it is that the west might value things like individual rights and reason as a result of an accident of changes made by the church


[16-Nov-19 11:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I suppose I missed it, I've only seen the one about banking.


[16-Nov-19 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The church put in place severe restrictions on incest


[16-Nov-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
possibly as an attempt to prevent the nobility from isolating their wealth


[16-Nov-19 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
To this day, there's less incest going on in the west.


[16-Nov-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the inference is, this might be the reason why the west has apparently very different fundamental values


[16-Nov-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
One funny tidbit is


[16-Nov-19 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
how much incest is present in a country


[16-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
can be used to very accurately predict whether its diplomats rakk up parking tikkets in New York


[16-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and whether they will not pay them.


[16-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://phys.org/news/2019-11-incest-dawn-individualism.html

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https://phys.org/news/2019-11-incest-dawn-individualism.html
Mapping the end of incest and dawn of individualism
If you're from a Western society, chances are you value individuality, independence, analytical thinking, and an openness to strangers and new ideas.
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[16-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, when everyone's fukking their cousin, everything's nepotism


[16-Nov-19 11:13 AM] Opponent#3498
makes sense, at least sex occasionally makes you care.


[16-Nov-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socially, you end up wanting to isolate to within your extended family against the outside world


[16-Nov-19 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
note that other research has shown greater ingroup affection leads to greater outgroup hatred


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, if the people you're fukking are complete strangers


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
possibly even with *different religions*


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
as eventually became rather common in Europe's nobility


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(even if they were still, like, second cousins, they'd be from other countries)


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly there's a need to be tolerant


[16-Nov-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause otherwise, your kids won't survive


[16-Nov-19 11:15 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, this isn't about values, church-instilled or otherwise, though. I'd suggest instead that because historically the law in US in particular was increasingly used to protect the people (the whole idea of independance was protection from Brittain etc), it came to be viewed as the ultimate saviour, and this concept was exported to wherever there was need to oppose communism, for better or worse.


[16-Nov-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it *is* about values


[16-Nov-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
think about why those parking tikkets get paid vs. not


[16-Nov-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If everything's nepotism, if everything's just you vs. the world, why pay a parking tikket that can't be enforced?


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
well, in most places they typically can be.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if everything's rules, if everything's openness and fairness...you *will* pay the parking tikket.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
well, no, I stand corrected.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, diplomatic parking tikkets cannot be enforced.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I know _we_ have ways of enforcing them


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yet many diplomats from western countries pay them.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I honestly don't know about most others in this context.


[16-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
diplomatic ones, well


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav people from different countries reacting differently to how to deal with infractions of rules *that cannot be enforced*.


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Opponent#3498
it costs ~nothing and sends a positive message.


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Opponent#3498
'we're here to abide by the rules'


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People from western countries will want to abide by the rules


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Opponent#3498
the little things count, in the end.


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People from other kinds of countries generally do not.


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's values.


[16-Nov-19 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
that is the "rule of law" you argue so vehemently against btw


[16-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow what is?


[16-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The west as it is now is about actually saying "no wait a moment, I should do this for the sake of society and others"


[16-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
abiding by the rules, even when you don't have to


[16-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well, in the case of diplomats, it helps with public image so you kinda have to. In the case of the people, it's enforcable, so you have to.


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd say even, the way you view the phrase "rule of law" is warped by your different worldview


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
the rule of law is 'if there's a person, there's a crime he's guilty of'


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
that's not the rule of law wtf


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You view it as authoritarian rule


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
going around beheading others who oppose the state


[16-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is exactly what the article is talking about for what happens with high incest, as people view nepotism and family-like loyalty as how to approach everything


[16-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the western ideal isn't to go around stomping on everyone, it's for there to be an actual **fair** system in place


[16-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
the rule of law is that no one is above the law


[16-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the rules to apply no matter who you are


[16-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
whether it's the rando homeless dude shooting up or whether it's the most powerful billionaire


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this does seem to be achievable


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
Soviet Union. Today you execute people for treason, tommorow you're the one lead into a dead-end corridor in the basement of local PD.


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
nobody's above the law.


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
America's certainly not reaching it right now, but it's a lot closer than it's probably ever been.


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
or, whatever counts as law at the time...


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Crow#5457
granted, it doesn't get enforced nearly as much as it should be, but it only depends on how much money the billionaire can throw at the problem before it becomes too big to bury


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the whole point is the west doesn't just arbitrarily set law to be what the fukk ever


[16-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
@ incest article, before reading it, I really gotta wonder how they pulled the statistics on that. It's not at all an easy thing to credibly gauge, one would think.


[16-Nov-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it sets it under an idea of trying to create fairness in society


[16-Nov-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually pretty easy to gauge


[16-Nov-19 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, even if people lie *en masse*, you can always test DNA


[16-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Crow#5457
one of the major problems in the US atm is that the rule of law has been undermined by corruption


[16-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might be able to hide parentage of individuals, but not that there is a lot of recombining of similar DNA overall.


[16-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw it's actually ridiculously easy to uncover parentage lies


[16-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are sooooo many genetic trait tells


[16-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
before you get into actual testing


[16-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in the US, where there's quite a bit of diversity


[16-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The corruption in question is in large part stemming from Russia


[16-Nov-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav very large vested interests in fukking with the US


[16-Nov-19 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and utterly 0 respect for laws of any kind


[16-Nov-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also large piles of cash from a bit of state capitalism


[16-Nov-19 11:26 AM] Opponent#3498
I really can't imagine how a country that has literally nothing going for it but vast amount of tanks, and gas and oil reserves, can be a credible threat to US's core values. They don't even got any competing ideology like communism now. They got nothing.


[16-Nov-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a really good diplomatic corps


[16-Nov-19 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't really a threat to our values long-term


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're just really able to sew chaos when nobody's ready for them for a while


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
the big threat long-term is that our diplomatic situation has been gutted


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
which does nothing but help russia


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
On purpose, Trump essentially just burned down the whole state dept.


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely on direct orders from Putin


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
and china


[16-Nov-19 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
but mostly russia


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That could take 10 years to recover from.


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
china has a big old economic hammer to hit people with


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
so they don't really need to do the underhanded shit russia does


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll grant you that, but in general, China is your new existential enemy, not Russia. China is using your values of hard capitalism and 'free market' and turns them against you. Russia... what, tries desperately to remain relevant?


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue isn't that Russia's relevant


[16-Nov-19 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it never truly was


[16-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that we kinda need diplomats to manage everything.


[16-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, Russia punched us in the jaw and now we can't talk right for a while.


[16-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
someone's pointing a big gun at you and someone's stabbing you with a toothpick, both are attacking you, but the person with the toothpick is stopping you from being able to shoot the other one with a big gun before they shoot you


[16-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, if we didn't hav this whole Trump mess going on, I can almost guarantee we would be destroying every Russian plane that enters Syria, with prejudice


[16-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow fair enough.


[16-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
As much as people want to bemoan OH HILLARY WOULD START WORLD WAR 3, no


[16-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav shot Russians before in proxy wars


[16-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not declare war in response.


[16-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If US soldiers just plain blew up any Russian jet that crossed into Syria, the only result would be a lot of dead Russian pilots.


[16-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A no-fly zone in Syria is just plain the reasonable approach you hav to take as a US president


[16-Nov-19 11:32 AM] ononim#8141
>The corruption in question is in large part stemming from Russia


[16-Nov-19 11:32 AM] ononim#8141
Pls


[16-Nov-19 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise you're in the position of watching idly while hospitals get deliberately bombed as you end up doing really stupid things with your military.


[16-Nov-19 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
have you seen even a quarter of the thing's trump's done that have directly benefited russia


[16-Nov-19 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of the US military is to sit there menacingly until some other country tries to kill civilians and then murder the fukk out of them so fast the country can't even think of declaring war.


[16-Nov-19 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any time it's instead off doing something stupid for oil, it just doesn't work that well.


[16-Nov-19 11:34 AM] ononim#8141
A retarded president benefits anyone who's rival with you


[16-Nov-19 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
(altho it'll for sure generate dead terrorists for votes, but honestly you don't really need to try very hard with that)


[16-Nov-19 11:34 AM] ononim#8141
It also benefits a lot of people in us


[16-Nov-19 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has gone out of his way on things in many cases seemingly to benefit Russia


[16-Nov-19 11:35 AM] ononim#8141
And yes, US personally controlling who can fly js such a good idea /s


[16-Nov-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why the Ukraine scandal is a big deal.


[16-Nov-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has regularly tried to remove sanctions on Russia


[16-Nov-19 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while trying to dismantle things that go against its interests


[16-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a pretty clear pattern involved.


[16-Nov-19 11:36 AM] ononim#8141
Trump blundered in a way what benefited turkey, a lot is he just a turkish puppet


[16-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, according to one whistleblower, yes he is


[16-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Turkey got kompromat of Jared Kushner helping coordinate the Saudis assassinating a journalist in their embassy in Turkey.


[16-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I kinda have to agree here, he's too Trump to have a clear agenda. Different things may benefit different parties at different times, there's no consistency past the 'bluster' and general awfulness


[16-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't this same pattern with China, however


[16-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
or any other country


[16-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to China, he tries to tariff them, and often just does not want to play ball


[16-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Putin however, he heaps on praise, lifts sanctions, and seems to always pull out from any opposition


[16-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a pattern to all of this.


[16-Nov-19 11:38 AM] Opponent#3498
well, whatever you say, I'm sure you would know better.


[16-Nov-19 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Constantly assuming Trump has no actual agenda other than stupidity is just buying into part of the propaganda. Trump isn't very smart, but he makes an excellent pawn for smarter people, and he does seem to hav consistent agendas.


[16-Nov-19 11:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah, those people are your corporate elites, which seem to have benefited from him the most.


[16-Nov-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
trump has tried multiple times to unilaterally remove sanctions placed on russia voted on and put in place by the US congress


[16-Nov-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military withdrawl in Syria does not benefit his corporate allies in any way


[16-Nov-19 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor does lifting Russian sanctions


[16-Nov-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
there was literally no reason for his attempts


[16-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason would hav to be some form of either wanting to help Russia, or wanting to help Putin by extension.


[16-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And considering every time he talks about Putin, he heaps praise while defending the guy, it would be rather nonsensical to say neither of those things are at play


[16-Nov-19 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least, Trump has been buttered up to Putin, likely by large sums of money into his businesses and corporate allies


[16-Nov-19 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is exactly Russia's playbook for the last decade


[16-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Opponent#3498
I find it weird that it matters what he says when he praises Putin, when it doesn't when he drones on about 'jobs jobs jobs' or whatever.


[16-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There may not be some kompromat out there showing prostitutes peeing on Trump, but there doesn't really need to be, it would just be icing on Putin's Trump cake.


[16-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean it doesn't matter when he talks about jobs?


[16-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a consistent Republican talking point


[16-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And part of his big crazy agenda


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Opponent#3498
his latest tweet. Which here got a reacton of 'he's just flinging typing words at random now'


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Opponent#3498
but this kind of thing he posted before. Constantly.


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing he says can be fully taken at every word


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy doesn't plan out his sentences


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only the very gist of it truly matters


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Opponent#3498
the house is burning around him, but he pretends this is fine.


[16-Nov-19 11:44 AM] Opponent#3498
that's how it looks.


[16-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
When he says X thing about Putin, half of it's probably even factually untrue


[16-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the details aren't the point


[16-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't a smart detail-oriented guy


[16-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has a big idea and just slathers words around it


[16-Nov-19 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether that idea is Putin being a GREAT GUY or AMERICAN JOBS being at threat


[16-Nov-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's fairly consistent and it'd be foolish to just ignore what he says


[16-Nov-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
he means what he says


[16-Nov-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He may be completely wrong about every area of economics in existence


[16-Nov-19 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he does *mean* it


[16-Nov-19 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks Putin is great and that the thing holding bakk JOBS is illegals and taxes, or at least he thinks he should say those things to get what he wants


[16-Nov-19 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is incredibly consistent on that.


[16-Nov-19 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he is not one to ever face reality.


[16-Nov-19 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a fun note, the things he says about Putin are about as true as what he says about the economy


[16-Nov-19 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to wrap this up, this kinda reminds me of the whole concept behind hearsay


[16-Nov-19 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hearsay is when you're looking at the truth of the statement, rather than actual things you can personally attest to in court


[16-Nov-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
he thinks kim jong-un is great too


[16-Nov-19 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putin being a great guy is hearsay, Trump heaping praise on Putin, that's something you could say in court


[16-Nov-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
and erdogan


[16-Nov-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
basically, trump heaps praise on a lot of dictators


[16-Nov-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when it comes to this assertion that "what he says on jobs doesn't matter", don't conflate these things


[16-Nov-19 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that Trump is making up bullshit is saying that it's hearsay, and likely incorrect. But Trump is very much saying it for a reason, with a consistent agenda.


[16-Nov-19 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Trump praises a lot of dictators, he just has an unusual hard-on even then for Putin.


[16-Nov-19 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
I've read your article.


[16-Nov-19 12:05 PM] Opponent#3498
Issue #1. According to the map (and I'm still not convinced genetic diversity is a good argument for mass incest or lack thereof, if there's an isolated community they will interbreed over time, incest or not.) we're in the 'light' influence zone. The same as US and the West in general. This doesn't seem to be any relevant to us, based on graphs provided.


[16-Nov-19 12:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Issue #2. Reading it, I'm not sure what the authors were trying to say. ```WEIRD (Western, educated, industrialized, rich and democratic)``` including 'democratic' in any Western writing is automatically a positive connotation, especially in the context of individualism. Yet at the same time they go all weaksause ```"We're not saying that less-intensive kin-based institutions are better," said Beauchamp. "Far from it. There are trade-offs." Tight families, for example, come with inborn financial safety nets. ```


[16-Nov-19 12:08 PM] Opponent#3498
so what's the point of this article? (oh, and educated, rich... you get the idea)


[16-Nov-19 12:12 PM] Opponent#3498
Issue #3. The idea of Catholic church promoting 'individualism' in any form is preposterous. Replacing the familiar ties purely with government/religious ones (you're nothing outside of the State, In God We Trust) I could buy, it's directly beneficial.


[16-Nov-19 12:16 PM] Opponent#3498
what I'm reading is low-key racist right-wing article, following the general talking points of 'science says: West good, Muslim bad' with a spin. It really is only half a step away from IQ table.


[16-Nov-19 12:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it's all the more suprising that YOU are the one who recommended it.


[16-Nov-19 12:18 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, and you somehow tied blind obedience and reliance on The Law (of God or otherwise) to individuality.


[16-Nov-19 12:21 PM] Opponent#3498
Issue #4. It's entirely unclear which period do the maps refer to. The first one is obvious. The second one, less so. Clearly not the modern times, as 'no data' for Canada but enough of it to defy borders for Europe?


[16-Nov-19 12:22 PM] Opponent#3498
in essence, this is why scientific research should be capable of providing raw data they based their findings on.


[16-Nov-19 12:22 PM] Opponent#3498
too bad Republicans are pushing for it for partizan reasons, they gonna stigmatise it, like everything else they touch lately.


[16-Nov-19 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
```The west as it is now```


[16-Nov-19 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
defined neoliberalism and adopted it into practice massively.


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[16-Nov-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[16-Nov-19 01:32 PM] ononim#8141
(clickhole is a satire website like Onion)


[16-Nov-19 01:32 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[16-Nov-19 01:32 PM] Opponent#3498
ok, that cleared things up.


[16-Nov-19 02:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[16-Nov-19 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Nov-19 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Nov-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Nov-19 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't think Trump needs to throw giuliani under the bus, He;s already doing it himself


[16-Nov-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Nov-19 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
> despite how fucked up you say US laws are, you desperately believe in it
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[16-Nov-19 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
nice try, but no. I didn't suggest you leave. But there's a difference between participating in the system and promoting it.


[16-Nov-19 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
that said, this specific argument is often used in our neck of the woods.


[16-Nov-19 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
'If you have strength to complain, get back to work, otherwise, get the fuck out of the country.'


[16-Nov-19 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
...on the flipside there's plenty of people who ran away from Donetsk and Lugansk regions to, for instance, Kiev, and from there they smugly project their superiority and 'that awful, inhumane government', so...


[16-Nov-19 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
different shades of fuck-up, in short.


[16-Nov-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/18c98675a8644e499b4ddb85578a5afa

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Impeachment testimony comes from White House budget official
WASHINGTON (AP) — House impeachment investigators met in private Saturday with a White House budget official as the historic inquiry produces new testimony offering direct insight of President...
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[16-Nov-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ecad2990a83b4d84af821ba6cbdb7d91

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Trump urges Louisianans to flip governor’s office to GOP
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — In a race that has become a nail-biter, Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards battled Saturday to defy the partisan odds in the ruby red South and win reelection to a seat that...
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[16-Nov-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/278141f086f645caaa43fc0cca0a6d43

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Chinese troops join Hong Kong cleanup as protesters retreat
HONG KONG (AP) — Chinese troops came out of the barracks in Hong Kong on Saturday — not to quell protests but to help clean up. It was a rare public appearance by the People’s Liberation...
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[16-Nov-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/11ae6142bbb84af49daae80b94f1b4e2

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AP sources: Jail guards at time of Epstein death reject deal
WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal prosecutors offered a plea deal to two correctional officers responsible for guarding Jeffrey Epstein on the night of his death, but the officers have declined the offer,...
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[16-Nov-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
for real though. Why is preventing suicide of prisoners given this much priority, in general?


[16-Nov-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
they aim to solve everyone's issues in a single stroke.


[16-Nov-19 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
because he was a crucial witness also


[16-Nov-19 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
ah. Well, fair enough in this case.


[16-Nov-19 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Epstein did not kill himself


[16-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll dodge the bait and remark that my question was more broad.


[16-Nov-19 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
if someone wants someone dead in prison, they're dead. It's almost impossible to prevent.


[16-Nov-19 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
and if they want to suicide, well... Unless they present significant value to prosecution, might as well let them.


[16-Nov-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/16/three-more-altar-boys-claim-they-were-abused-by-priests-in-vatican

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Three more altar boys say they were abused by priests in Vatican
Italian TV show to reveal alleged abuse at Vatican’s youth seminary in 1980s and 90s
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[16-Nov-19 07:39 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Nov-19 07:39 PM] ononim#8141
*sociedad...*


[16-Nov-19 07:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195531896433848320?s=20

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[16-Nov-19 07:42 PM] illumnious#7938
@ononim we lived in a society


[16-Nov-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, and donald trump is knee deep in this swamp plugging up the drain hole with cement


[16-Nov-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3ed631eda1a6422e9ad69956a39574c8

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Biden, Warren absence at California gathering irks top Dems
LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) — The decisions by Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren to skip a weekend gathering of thousands of fervent California Democrats less than three months before voting begins have...
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[16-Nov-19 08:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50446661

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Huge Prague protest marks revolution anniversary
Czech police estimate that about 200,000 people were at the anti-government demonstration.
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[16-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ibdna.com/paternity-testing-ban-upheld-in-france/

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Paternity Testing Ban Upheld in France | International Biosciences UK
Paternity Testing has been banned in France for the past 15 years. Order Your Paternity Test from International Biosciences Now!


[16-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck???


[16-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
> The reasons for which the Government said the ban should remain were related to the preservation of peace within French families. According to some online articles, Germany, has also banned (or plans to ban) paternity testing for similar reasons. French psychologists suggest that fatherhood is determined by society not by biology.


[16-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
xD


[16-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I love it.


[16-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
best thing is, they're not even wrong. Ignorance is fucking bliss xD


[16-Nov-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
this is european 'socialist' policies in action. Like, stock standard EU in a nutshell. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. The primary reason I have so much contempt for UK in particular.


[16-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
they're absolutely incapable of dealing with any external threats. Too busy 'managing' their own populations.


[16-Nov-19 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What external threats?


[16-Nov-19 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The EU's pretty cushy where it is rn


[16-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
it is. Backed forever by US, with it more or less driving EU foreign policy.


[16-Nov-19 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
France also has a right to disappear thing. If someone runs away from family and there is evidence or motive to run away and not just disappear the police don't have to help you search for them.
I guess this would apply to families were the real Dad left to get some smokes and then there was a new dad.


[16-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/dx6n0f/trump_adviser_roger_stone_who_sarcastically_said/

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Trump adviser Roger Stone who sarcastically said "Mueller, arrest ...
Posted in r/agedlikemilk by u/Tmfwang • 31,329 points and 1,152 comments
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[16-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
womp womp


[16-Nov-19 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[16-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
btw @Opponent, the data for that article is here (this link is also present in the article that you read, at the end) https://science.sciencemag.org/content/366/6466/eaau5141

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The Church, intensive kinship, and global psychological variation
There is substantial variation in psychological attributes across cultures. Schulz et al. examined whether the spread of Catholicism in Europe generated much of this variation (see the Perspective by Gelfand). In particular, they focus on how the Church broke down extended ki...
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[16-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
> This research suggests that contemporary psychological patterns, ranging from individualism and trust to conformity and analytical thinking, have been influenced by deep cultural evolutionary processes, including the Church’s peculiar incest taboos, family policies, and enduring kin-based institutions.


[16-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
you completely misunderstood what the phys.org article was trying to say


[16-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-usa/trump-asked-tokyo-for-8-billion-to-keep-us-troops-in-japan-foreign-policy-idUSKBN1XQ06F

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Trump asks Japan to hike payments for U.S. troops to $8 billion: F...
U.S. President Donald Trump has asked Japan to quadruple annual payments for U.S...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191116&t=2&i=1452888182&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAF03D


[16-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[16-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
> U.S. President Donald Trump has asked Japan to quadruple annual payments for U.S. forces stationed there to around $8 billion, Foreign Policy reported, part of Washington’s efforts to press its allies to increase their defense spending.


[16-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
this sounds like trump's asking for fucking protection money


[16-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
the US pulling out of the area would be a massive win for china


[16-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[16-Nov-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump regularly asks for more money for the US to protect its allies


[16-Nov-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is trying to run the US not just like a failing business, but a failing *mafia*.

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[16-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/high-anxiety-jittery-democrats-fear-their-candidate-won-t-beat-n1084141

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High anxiety: Jittery Democrats fear their candidate won't beat Trump
Acknowledging the concern, former President Barack Obama told his party's moderates to chill and the left to get more realistic.
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[16-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they're overreacting


[16-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think much like Trump you have people who would vote for the progressive wing but not talk or poll about it


[16-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just fucking campaign in Wisconsin and Florida


[16-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Calm down


[16-Nov-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1194416354440417280

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[16-Nov-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The voices in my head are pressuring me to run, guess i'll do it"


[16-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
they'll never steer you wrong.


[16-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow what WAS it supposed to be saying then?


[16-Nov-19 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29813171/roger-stone-convicted-seven-counts-lying-congress/

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Professional Ratf*cker Roger Stone Has F*cked His Last Rat
But his crimes against democracy—which the Republican Party abided as long as it was convenient—will never be atoned for.
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[16-Nov-19 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
What a headline


[16-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
he's probably getting that pardon anyway


[16-Nov-19 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Indeed


[16-Nov-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
> Any bets on what his sentence will be?

> Pardon me?


[16-Nov-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The case of the mysterious vanishing stone: roger stone gone missing"


[17-Nov-19 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) tbh i'd support her running for president at the last minute just to split the centrist shitlib vote


[17-Nov-19 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she would probably steal voters from camp biden, so that;s a plus


[17-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1170181.shtml

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US politicians ruthless in pushing HK bill
Washington indulges in the mobs’ vandalism to destroy Hong Kong and views efforts by the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) government as suppression on democracy and freedom. How ruthless and hypocritical it is.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2019/2019-11-15/2425f3c6-5d86-4f04-80f3-957d578e8bf7.jpeg


[17-Nov-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
>.cn


[17-Nov-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
nice


[17-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"These US moves have displayed its clear attitude: Hong Kong radical protesters can do whatever they want - kill people with bricks, set fire to or beat people who disagree with them, and throw dangerous debris from bridges - while regarding all actions taken by the governing authorities to stop violence and end chaos in accordance with the law as a crackdown on democracy and freedom."


[17-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[17-Nov-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Democracy" and """freedom"""


[17-Nov-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"You're going to be democratically sent to the labour camps to freely renounce your faith"


[17-Nov-19 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1170115.shtml

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Cotton industry symbolizes Xinjiang’s human rights
More foreign enterprises are welcome to enter the cotton business in Xinjiang and contribute to the region’s human rights development.
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[17-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Many Western countries and organizations deliberately turn a blind eye to that fact. They are in no position to talk about human rights with China. Cotton, in the history of Western imperial expansion, was a symbol of Western encroachment on human rights. Many Asian, African, and Latin American farmers were forcibly turned into farm laborers on white-owned cotton plantations. But what the plant has brought to Xinjiang benefits the local people."


[17-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"
Claims that cotton is produced by forced labor in Xinjiang are based on speculations that Uyghurs in the region's vocational education and training centers, what the West calls "reeducation camp," were "persecuted" and "forced to do unpaid labor." But the reality is in those centers, as many foreign diplomats, media people and scholars who visited there have seen, trainees learn language, basic law and working skills that would help them return to society"


[17-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181220/french-ban-on-dna-testing-cant-stop-the-craze

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French ban on home DNA testing can't stop the Christmas craze
Do-it-yourself DNA testing is officially banned in France but that doesn't mean that the French have avoided being swept along by the craze that has already hit the US and UK.
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[17-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[17-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
France didn't just ban *paternity* testing


[17-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they banned testing your own DNA

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[17-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need a court order or a doctor to approve getting a DNA test


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is retarded.


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the rationale?


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a mix of "don't get worried about possibly having diseases you're clearly at risk for" and the paternity thing


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds stupid as fuck tbh, like Texas banning households from having a specific ammount of dildos


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they decided that rather than let people find out they're at risk


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These DNA kits are you giving your genetic information to a company


[17-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're giving them your personal data, quite literally


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything should require a hospital visit


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ban predates mass data collection, Its


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like banning WebMD


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
France is known to be ban-happy with stuff


[17-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pepto bismol is still illegal there


[17-Nov-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
(they banned all bismuth in medicines in any amount ever, because of people getting neurological conditions from taking shittons of bismuth in certain drugs)


[17-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[17-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US does have this weird thing with paternity though


[17-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
keep in mind that the EU has recently decided to remove geoblokking restrictions...on non-digital goods only


[17-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if it's not in best interest of the child


[17-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
meaning that they can stop you from buying your English animes from within France


[17-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they can't stop you really from buying things that are illegal to use in France


[17-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble, Its, is the child isn't allowed to test their own DNA


[17-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even once they grow up


[17-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to get a court or a doctor to let them.


[17-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but they can just buy a kit from the UK and not tell the police they did.


[17-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
again, typical EU. Typical Europe in general, in this case, considering how we and other ex-USSR nations function.


[17-Nov-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just complete abdication of updating legislation after some panics in the 90s


[17-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
and common sense.


[17-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how panic legislation tends to work


[17-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
One event or a bunch of news stories rile people up


[17-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
legislature passes a law about it that makes no sense


[17-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
over time these pile up


[17-Nov-19 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/opinion/sunday/federal-reserve-trump.html

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Opinion | Trump Isn’t the First President to Make War on the Fed...
Nixon bullied his Fed chair into lowering interest rates — a political move that wrecked the economy for years.
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[17-Nov-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Such audacity may feel uniquely Trumpian, but it isn’t. Though our modern political culture holds that the Federal Reserve is independent, other postwar presidents have bullied Fed chairmen just as egregiously. President Lyndon Johnson pushed Fed Chairman William McChesney Martin against a wall after Martin dared to raise the discount rate half a percentage point.


[17-Nov-19 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
> But the worst example is President Richard Nixon’s campaign to coerce “his” Fed chairman, Arthur Burns, into promulgating policy that guaranteed devastating inflation. Worst, because it worked — and demonstrated that this economically vital, supposedly apolitical agency is more vulnerable to presidential meddling than we’d like to believe.


[17-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
> The now hardening Nixon simply watched with amusement as Connally and the others tortured Burns. Burns’s vulnerability was his Jewish background. “The government is full of Jews,” Nixon told H.R. Haldeman, another aide. There was “a Jewish cabal” in government, he said, “and they all only talk to Jews.” But the person Burns wanted to talk to was Nixon.


[17-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
why is it always "da jewz"


[17-Nov-19 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
what did jewish people do to deserve this shit for being jewish


[17-Nov-19 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
> But great lows followed these short-term highs. Nixon’s imperiousness cost him the presidency and the United States its economy. A storm of inflation followed when the price controls ended; Burns’s interest rate increases proved far too modest. Burns, the prophet who had spent a career warning of inflation, had carried out policies that caused it.


[17-Nov-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews hav a different religion and are less able to defend themselves


[17-Nov-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
this makes them a very easy target if you need a white guy to blame because you don't hav any minorities close to you


[17-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav both a cause to consider them socially unacceptable, and no fear of repercussions when you target them.


[17-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
All while they are marginally acceptable on first glance.


[17-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can intentionally accept them in without raising a fuss *and* kikk them out without raising a fuss.


[17-Nov-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, racism isn't really about who deserves what


[17-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about convenient social excuses to hurt other people as a political tool


[17-Nov-19 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
```Jews hav a different religion and are less able to defend themselves```


[17-Nov-19 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
Jews have a religion that doubles as a very effective business practice manual


[17-Nov-19 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
in olden times, apparently, you could expect them to take over the financial side of pretty much any society they lived in (as they never really had one to call their own before Israel)


[17-Nov-19 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's not just vulnerability. They were _really fucking good_ at what they did. It universally caused jealousy and resentment


[17-Nov-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Moneylending was unchristian, but people still needed loans, so they got loans from jews, pretty much forcing them into the niche of being efficient at business


[17-Nov-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Nov-19 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*suspected* bomb maker


[17-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJgrGnsXsAAdljh.jpg

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[17-Nov-19 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
silly billy


[17-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/campaign-polls/470799-buttigieg-rockets-to-frontrunner-in-iowa-poll#

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New poll catapults Buttigieg to frontrunner position in Iowa
Support among Iowa democratic voters for Democratic presidential candidate and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) spiked in a new poll released Saturday, with Buttigieg leading the crowded field of Democratic hopefuls.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/buttigiegpete_092019gn8_lead.jpg


[17-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can Pete Beat?


[17-Nov-19 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misread that title as "new poll catapults" as an actual concept


[17-Nov-19 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/xpT8b7s

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Danish politician showed up in parliament with a pro Hong Kong shirt.
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[17-Nov-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda) https://imgur.com/gallery/zKNjNu6

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Engineering students assembled a catapult on the No.2 bridge of CUHK
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[17-Nov-19 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
> Engineering students assembled a catapult on the No.2 bridge of CUHK


[17-Nov-19 04:16 AM] Arvid#8335
Nice


[17-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470802-louisiana-governor-wins-re-election

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Louisiana governor wins re-election
Louisiana Gov.
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[17-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe he needs to stop having rallies for this sort of thing.


[17-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
50.7 / 49.3 is pretty fucking close


[17-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No third candidate, blank votes, or null votes?


[17-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure it's a runoff


[17-Nov-19 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[17-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
so there's only the two


[17-Nov-19 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.is/pPxqB

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‘Absolutely No Mercy’: Leaked Files Expose How China Organized...
archived 17 Nov 2019 04:38:10 UTC
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[17-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
this one doesn't seem to have a paywall https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

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‘Absolutely No Mercy’: Leaked Files Expose How China Organized...
More than 400 pages of internal Chinese documents provide an unprecedented inside look at the crackdown on ethnic minorities in the Xinjiang region.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/11/15/world/xj-hp-promo/xj-hp-promo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Nov-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/calls-for-ag-barrs-impeachment-intensify-after-lunatic-authoritarian-federalist-society-speech/

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Calls for AG Barr’s Impeachment Intensify After ‘Lunatic Autho...
Attorney General Bill Barr launched into an emotional tirade against "the left" at an annual meeting of the conservative Federalist Society on Friday evening. Now, lawyers and legal commentators are intensifying calls for Barr's impeachment.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Barr-Federalist-Society.jpg


[17-Nov-19 06:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That anyone in the GOP can complain about obstructionism while Mitch still breathes is amazing


[17-Nov-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Projection is a powerful defense mechanism


[17-Nov-19 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the bread and butter of the GOP


[17-Nov-19 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*everything* they do in bad faith, they blame the liberals for doing (regardless of whether or not they have done it) and then make a "both sides" argument to justify their own actions


[17-Nov-19 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's honestly gotten to the point where any accusation they make against a Democrat is tantamount to probable cause for investigating the Republican who said it


[17-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federalist Society at this point is borderline monarchist


[17-Nov-19 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's always been


[17-Nov-19 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The stuff Barr was talking about was an interpretation of executive power that is completely absurd


[17-Nov-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr doesn't want Congress to have oversight, period


[17-Nov-19 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Federalist society has, from its inception, been opposed to the last century and a half of American politics


[17-Nov-19 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Barr wants the legislature to be a rubber stamp, and the judiciary stuffed with executive picks rubber stamped by the legislature


[17-Nov-19 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This view of the executive did not exist prior to 1960 so


[17-Nov-19 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to hear his opinions one decade from now when President Ocasio-Cortez nationalizes some industry or something


[17-Nov-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She just uses the extreme abuse of executive power to say "okay, government owns coal mines, environment emergency"


[17-Nov-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-holmes-prepared-testimony-is-a-way-bigger-deal-than-expected

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The Holmes Prepared Testimony Is a Way Bigger Deal Than Expected
Yesterday after the Yovanovitch testimony the House Intelligence Committee went into another closed door session to hear from Foreign Service...
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[17-Nov-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
> One of the most interesting parts of the prepared statement comes at the end when Holmes explains why he is only coming forward now. According to Holmes, he had reviewed other witnesses testimony and thought his recollections broadly matched Yovanovitch’s and Taylor’s testimony. So his was unneeded. It was only when he heard the “hearsay” arguments, that no one had direct information about Trump’s involvement or words, that he realized his account might be useful. In other words, the GOP’s ‘hearsay’ talking point seems to have backfired rather spectacularly.


[17-Nov-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr calling it all hearsay is causing more witnesses to testify


[17-Nov-19 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/asia/hong-kong-protests-november-17-intl-hnk/index.html

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Hong Kong police officer shot with arrow during university siege
A Hong Kong police officer was shot with an arrow on Sunday during the siege of a fortified central university campus, a new escalation after nearly six months of demonstrations in the fiercely divided city.
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[17-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
```“The weapons of the people’s democratic dictatorship must be wielded without any hesitation or wavering,” Mr. Xi told the leadership conference on Xinjiang policy, which convened six days after the deadly attack on the vegetable market.```


[17-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
People's Democratic Dictatorship.

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[17-Nov-19 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
what a line.


[17-Nov-19 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Nov-19 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even china's pro-china poster just looks straight up evil dictatorship now


[17-Nov-19 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001 if you want to voice your displeasure with COPPA, now;s your chance


[17-Nov-19 04:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/public_citizen/status/1195440086965469186?s=21

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[17-Nov-19 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dfb5f19d68a94f62bb5761e6a82b1eb3

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Russia providing mood music for House impeachment drama
WASHINGTON (AP) — For all the talk about Ukraine in the House impeachment inquiry, there’s a character standing just off-stage with a dominant role in this tale of international intrigue:...
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[17-Nov-19 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
@illumnious yeah, then you pick apart the graphs, the definitions, the sources, and the situation changes significantly.


[17-Nov-19 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
but who cares, if you can present punchy graph after punchy graph to push your agenda.


[17-Nov-19 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
distilled knowledge of the world, in only 5 minutes.


[17-Nov-19 05:47 PM] Opponent#3498
also gotta love how vigorously the democrats suck mr. Putin's pillar of virility.


[17-Nov-19 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump's administration might or might not have given Russia some practical benefits, but it's the democrats who give it all the media relevance in the world. A sorely needed boost, for a country stuck in dead-end conflicts that sap it's economy, which it can't easily pull out of because of already failing public support.


[17-Nov-19 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
'by US's own admission, we get to pick and choose their presidents' is big.


[17-Nov-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3c9dc7f464314cd88280c1accc39ec11

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White House urgently ramps up push for drug cost legislation
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is ramping up its push to get a bill through Congress that curbs prescription drug costs, feeling a new urgency as the impeachment investigation advances amid the...
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[17-Nov-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
they want to impeach Trump and seem to be making great progress with that, yet want him to cooperate?


[17-Nov-19 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
this smells fake. Like, 'oh we tried, so very hard, to lower the prices and help you poor peasants, but this one local man ruined everything'


[17-Nov-19 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
> Instead Trump is backing a compromise bipartisan bill in the Senate, which does not give Medicare bargaining authority, but forces drugmakers to pay rebates if they raise prices too high.


[17-Nov-19 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah that's horseshit


[17-Nov-19 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't help anyone and it only serves to line the pockets of big pharma


[17-Nov-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-protests-rights/chile-police-stopped-rescue-workers-helping-dying-protester-human-rights-watchdog-idUSKBN1XR00Q

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Chile police stopped rescue workers helping dying protester: human...
Chile's independent human rights watchdog said on Saturday it would file a ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191117&t=2&i=1453187895&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAG00B


[17-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzWF6O8T26Y

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Johnny Carson Prince Andrew 1984
1984 Carson makes a joke about Prince Andrew being a pedophile. Prince Andrew was named in the Jeffrey Epstein case
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[17-Nov-19 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
this did not age well at all


[17-Nov-19 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Peah the problem with the drug bill "compromise" is quite simple


[17-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you just shift the cost of the drug from the person paying it to the drug company *thru* the gov't


[17-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
but keep the price utterly retardedly high


[17-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you've just created wasteful gov't spending


[17-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
lots of it


[17-Nov-19 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and all the while, you're keeping the drug companies rich so they can keep pumping money into marketing


[17-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you're creating incentive for states to shut down medicaid.


[17-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which then leaves the actual people getting the drugs...not getting the drugs anymore.


[17-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, making gov't rebates on high drug prices is a move **designed to force the gov't to remove all medical benefits down the line**


[17-Nov-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the "compromise" bill would create a huge vortex of money around every drug


[17-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2019/11/shooting-victim-at-new-jersey-high-school-football-game-among-6-charged-update.html

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Shooting victim at New Jersey high school football game among 6 ch...
Ibn Abdullah, 27, was the target of the Friday night shooting in a stadium packed with families. He was charged after a gun was found on him by emergency responders, authorities said.
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[17-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
apparently one of the shooting victims at the high school football game was arrested because he was found to have a gun on his person


[17-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
> Ibn Abdullah, 27, was the target of the Friday night shooting and was charged because a gun was found on him when emergency responders went to his aid, authorities said. He is in stable condition and will be undergoing surgery.


[17-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
> Three other men face weapons charges, and a fourth faces weapons and eluding charges.


[17-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
basically, they're charging all the people there with guns because of one shooter


[17-Nov-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[17-Nov-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/470687-conservatives-seek-to-stifle-new-alt-right-movement-seeped-in-anti-semitism#

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Conservatives seek to stifle new 'alt-right' movement seeped in an...
A fringe group of far-right activists have been disrupting conservative and pro-Trump events in recent weeks, drawing rebukes from mainstream Republicans who are eager to separate the party from white nationalists and alt-right racists.
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[17-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen in a review of some Dennis Prager doc


[17-Nov-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Conservatives don’t want debate. They want “safe spaces” where they can deliver their “message” without rebuttal, ridicule and fact-checking on the fly. The echo chamber of this film underscores that."


[17-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/17/uk/prince-andrew-tv-interview-scli-gbr-intl/index.html

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Prince Andrew sparks near-universal condemnation with TV interview
If Prince Andrew hoped that a TV interview about his relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein would stop the flow of negative press coverage he faced, he could not have been more wrong.
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[17-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His alibi for not being with one of the accusers is literally "I was at a children's pizza party"


[17-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't make this shit up


[17-Nov-19 08:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pizza with extra sausage :trixdisgust: 🚔


[17-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More pizzagate shit


[17-Nov-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I couldnt have been molesting children with epstein, i was too busy molestign children at this other children's party!"


[17-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean I was out buying child rape slaves? I hunt them down like a proper man, buying is for chumps. DON'T YOU GET AWAY WITH THAT PIZZA MASCOT!


[17-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also "...an insidious effort to smuggle racist and anti-Semitic ideologies into the conservative mainstream."


[17-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta be one of the most Poe's Law things I've read in a while.


[17-Nov-19 08:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
A pizza party is the last place I'd expect a royal. What the fuck is this reality.


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
One where a fukking prince shows up at your kid's party


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you're too elated to notice him sneaking off with them


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
into his private suite


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously like, when childs get molested by rich people


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
the common story from parents is that like


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
I've run a now slowed down politics/nation RP for several years where for all the time that's run all the insane shit we did now pales in comparison to reality.


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
they were just so happy that a rich person took an interest in their family


[17-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
they paid no attention to what was going on


[17-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's shokking to read, but it's always like this


[17-Nov-19 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Oh, a significant monarch is a stoner, womanizer, and in a jazz band? Nope, never mind. Literally everything RL exists."


[17-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
the average parent doesn't believe rich people can be child molesters


[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They like, hear their child is sleeping over at Michael Jackson's ranch and go "aww, good for him"


[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's so surreal.


[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The royals usually have 2 suits with them when they leave their houses. should ask the suits where he was but they like to bend over for the royals too so expect the same from them.


[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, to parents


[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
imagine an episode of MLP where Fancy Pants shows up in Ponyville to meet with the school foals

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[17-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and suddenly hosts a party for Scootaloo


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then it ends with them sharing a bed at Scootaloo's house


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
you know, the one where Scootaloo's parents don't liv


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And all Rarity and Dash talk about is how great it is.


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reality of the situation.


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:chickun: :ineedanadult:


[17-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what American families actually think is not in the slightest suspicious.


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like what Michel Jackson did.


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I think the thing isn't really Poes Law because "mainstream" conservatives are super pro Israel and the like


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're racist and anti-semitic as hell tho


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are they anti semitic though


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than this group


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's complete delusion to believe that their massively Pro-Israel stance isn't with a side of "fukking jews don't deserve this grumble grumble"


[17-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
YES


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
YEEEEEES


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
holy shit man


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
do you even know?


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, just yesterday we were discussing an article about Nixon


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
he hated the jews


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
he put in a jewish fed chairman


[17-Nov-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then used the jewishness to gather support from other conservatives to get his way on economic policy


[17-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then what is all the Trump support of Israel


[17-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Support of Israel isn't about liking the jews


[17-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
you must realize the pattern here


[17-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Israel is like the fed chairman


[17-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me Itsthinking, which is better


[17-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
1: Cuddling up to a weaker country and protecting and loving them forever as they help your policy goals but don't always do exactly what you want, relatively hands-off, like a real marriage


[17-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
2: Coming in and giving them stuff, but also supporting all their enemies against them constantly, hating their people, making clear their people are inferior, and making them BEG you to help every time as you get them to do exactly what you want, like a real marriage but for Republicans.


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nuts in America believing they can start the rapture early by letting the jewish take over Israel and the devil will rise there and the rapture begins.

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[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you are a cold-hearted, evil sociopath


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
which one do you do?


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's Republicans toward Israel


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're married to it


[17-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they rape it every day.


[17-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole concept of a loving relationship involves strict obedience and constant abuse of the "lesser" partner.


[17-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they will put in Jewish fed chairmen


[17-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
and why they support Israel so strongly


[17-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It not only benefits them more, but also fits their concept of a relationship, and their basic moral values, more.


[17-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, conservatives value obedience, loyalty, do as you are told, nepotism


[17-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
liberals value fairness, equal treatment, principles before loyalty etc.


[17-Nov-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone asked a strongly pro Israel politician this question


[17-Nov-19 09:03 PM] jlun2#8758
> do as you are told
I suppose they don't exactly like startups then


[17-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"How can you support Israel when they have socialized medicine and on demand abortions?"


[17-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the way Republicans deal with that is


[17-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
they say one thing works one place


[17-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
but not another


[17-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
different places should be different


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile they export neoliberalism with armed might


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize, this isn't a consistent ideology


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
are republicans some monolthic hivemind?


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The **entire point** of conservatism is to make others fall into line while you stay in power


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They try to be.


[17-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't always work.


[17-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Ben Shapiro knows what's up, his brand of conservatism isn't pro-Jew.


[17-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just pretends to be.


[17-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all a ruse for AOC feet pics


[17-Nov-19 09:17 PM] jlun2#8758
what


[17-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>feet
>not hooves


[17-Nov-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
.p no hooves


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[17-Nov-19 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
... that's not what that tag is meant for


[17-Nov-19 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
I never even knew "no hooves" was a tag


[17-Nov-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001


[17-Nov-19 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/69ba97b946c14b4f9d4d83577a05d22a

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Democrats invite Trump to testify in impeachment inquiry
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi invited President Donald Trump to testify in front of investigators in the House impeachment inquiry ahead of a week that will see several...
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[17-Nov-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/uyWimd6

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Prince Andrew: "There's a medical condition that says that I didn't do it"
https://i.imgur.com/uVWnpkmh.jpg


[17-Nov-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
trump testifying under oath is an auto checkmate


[17-Nov-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
also, that imgur link has sound at the source, prince andrew claimed he couldn't sweat at the time one of his rape accusers said she specifically remembered him sweating profusely while dancing with him


[17-Nov-19 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
which is just grade S+ bullshit


[17-Nov-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/bloomberg-admits-he-was-wrong-apologizes-for-stop-and-frisk-ny-times-idUSKBN1XR0PB

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Bloomberg admits he was wrong, apologizes for 'stop and frisk' - N...
Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg admitted he was wrong to support the &qu...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191117&t=2&i=1453455602&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAG0T6


[17-Nov-19 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
fucking neoliberal


[17-Nov-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/pence-aide-said-trumps-ukraine-phone-call-was-unusual-and-inappropriate-idUSKBN1XQ0H4

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Pence aide said Trump's Ukraine phone call was 'unusual and inappr...
The phone call between U.S. President Donald Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191116&t=2&i=1453169241&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAF0SW


[17-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wonder how long until the long knives come out


[17-Nov-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully soon


[17-Nov-19 10:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then we're just gonna trigger these people.

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[17-Nov-19 10:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
I do hope this is an elaborate honey pot


[17-Nov-19 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, it is being played like a mafia investigation - look at how many rats have come out as we chase down the big guy


[17-Nov-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, don't arrest them for contempt. let them fight in traffic and throw eachother under cars and busses themselves


[17-Nov-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eventually giuliani will get paranoid that trump is about to bus him, and he'll throw up his "insurance card" out of panic


[17-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Treascair#7785
and then they all get mulched with each other's panicked statements in front of cameras as proof.


[17-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sondland should be good


[17-Nov-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/470854-man-hit-in-face-by-scooter-as-trump-supporters-protesters-clash

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Man hit in face by scooter as Trump supporters, protesters clash i...
A man who was demonstrating in support of President Trump over the weekend was hit in the face with a scooter by an anti-Trump protestor,
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[17-Nov-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: beating a man with a scooter


[17-Nov-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke: beating a man with a man named Scooter


[17-Nov-19 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
broke: hitting a man with glasses
woke: hitting a man *with* glasses


[17-Nov-19 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
broke: caw
woke: cawmmunism


[17-Nov-19 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/16/vaccines-measles-mumps-polio-hepatitis-b

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US states saw drop in vaccine rates for children as anti-vaxx theo...
Study finds decline in take-up rates as anti-vaxx theories spread, with rates in more than half the states having fallen below target of 95%
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[18-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There should be a law to take away children from anyone who refuses to vaccinate them.


[18-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget whether to let them into schools or not


[18-Nov-19 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't vaccinate your kid, you are endangering them and others, you lose the kid.


[18-Nov-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This tbh


[18-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Antivaxx are like "oh what the government is going to do is break down my door and forcibly vaccinate my kid"


[18-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I'm like


[18-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, they should do that, and regularly


[18-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if we ever have an effective bioterrorism incident


[18-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>implying this isn't already slow burning russian bioterrorism planned two decades ago

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[18-Nov-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470691-white-house-backs-stephen-miller-amid-white-nationalist-emails

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White House backs Stephen Miller amid white nationalist allegations
The White House is standing by senior adviser Stephen Miller as he faces calls from dozens of Democrats to resign after newly released emails showed he circulated material linked to white nationalism to conservative media befor
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[18-Nov-19 02:30 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
because of course they did


[18-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470862-sondland-notified-trump-officials-of-investigation-push-ahead-of

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Sondland notified Trump officials of investigation push ahead of U...
Gordon Sondland, President Trump's ambassador to the European Union (EU), reportedly kept top officials in the Trump administration regularly updated on his efforts to persuade Ukraine's new president to launch an investigation into former Vice Pr
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[18-Nov-19 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't/won't get to the wsj so I don't know what the official source is on this story


[18-Nov-19 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
did this come out of Holmes' testimony?


[18-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WSJ got a bunch of emails


[18-Nov-19 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
margarine gentlemen


[18-Nov-19 03:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/17/wokings-pizza-express-customers-struggle-to-remember-first-visit

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[18-Nov-19 03:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The reviews are pretty intresting too


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[18-Nov-19 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sondland-carried-out-secret-ukraine-dealings-on-trumps-orders-wh-official-testified

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Sondland Carried Out Secret Ukraine Dealings On Trump's Orders, WH...
Outgoing National Security Council aide Tim Morrison testified that Ambassador Gordon Sondland had told him he was carrying out the...
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[18-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
> Outgoing National Security Council aide Tim Morrison testified that Ambassador Gordon Sondland had told him he was carrying out the shadow negotiations with Ukraine over the delayed military aid on President Donald Trump’s orders, according to a newly released transcript of Morrison’s testimony.


[18-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
> During Morrison’s closed-door hearing earlier this month, the official confirmed to House impeachment investigators that Sondland had told Ukrainian officials that military aid to Ukraine was incumbent on Ukraine announcing an investigation into Burisma, a gas company with ties to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter.


[18-Nov-19 04:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[18-Nov-19 04:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Ze boomer


[18-Nov-19 04:59 AM] Midknight#9798
Or just...vaccinate kids at school. Problem solved.

What, they're not coming to school? Well, problem still solved!


[18-Nov-19 05:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I am concerned that allowing the virus to survive in anyone could give it a chance to mutate. We don't need a 2.0 of deadly viruses.


[18-Nov-19 05:04 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1196275661498912768?s=21

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[18-Nov-19 05:04 AM] illumnious#7938
Why in the name of fucks they have to do that shit


[18-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Midknight#9798
viruses don't magically appear in unvaccinated people. if they're staying at home being homeschooled, they're not out and about being infected and becoming carriers 🙂


[18-Nov-19 05:05 AM] Midknight#9798
once they're adults, well,  they can choose to get vaccinated without their coocoo parents' say-so 😛


[18-Nov-19 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they stay in their bubble and no one outside the bubble ever interacts, sure


[18-Nov-19 05:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You can't stay away from every single person for your whole life. i know because i try.


[18-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Midknight#9798
in the meantime, they should be required to post a sign at the entrance to their property. "Here be unvaccinated"

That way, in-home service technicians like myself can say "Nope, sorry, I'm not paid enough to work in a plague house. Call someone else!"


[18-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But then they go play with the neighbor's dog who licked a kid at the mall who's vaccinated but was on a trip out of country and his shirt had some grease that's got some virus alive on it still and woops


[18-Nov-19 05:25 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
lmao

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[18-Nov-19 05:26 AM] Midknight#9798
isn't like half the art on derpibooru "tranny" and/or futanari?


[18-Nov-19 05:27 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
the worst part of this comment is they didn't even use the grammatically correct slur


[18-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Midknight#9798
At least I didn't say "Pokemon should go Open World" again or something? 😛


[18-Nov-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>sepulchre


[18-Nov-19 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thought that NEET drug addict nazi living off mommy's teat would've offed himself by now


[18-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Chaos Queen#7641
^


[18-Nov-19 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only


[18-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431241597527785482/645797343735840773/anaKasparianTYT.png

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[18-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[18-Nov-19 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/a-warning-by-anonymous-released-next-week-here-are-the-highlights-2019-11-16/ you have been warned about being warned

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"A Warning" portrays the president as reckless and irresponsible
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[18-Nov-19 07:39 AM] Midknight#9798
ferchrissakes, warn a hoss before you do something like that


[18-Nov-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/SeNZCj6

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Reporter in Bolivia gets tear gassed and keeps doing her job!
https://i.imgur.com/Mgfck3Ih.jpg


[18-Nov-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[18-Nov-19 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Reporter in Bolivia gets tear gassed and keeps doing her job!


[18-Nov-19 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-today-shooting-police-snipers-face-mask-ban-court-a9206741.html

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Chinese editor calls for police snipers to fire on Hong Kong prote...
Police and protesters in stand-off at university campus amid reports demonstrators are not being allowed to leave
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[18-Nov-19 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Nov-19 11:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://fox59.com/2019/11/17/president-trumps-saturday-visit-to-hospital-not-protocol-for-routine-source-says/

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President Trump’s Saturday visit to hospital ‘not protocol’ ...
President Donald Trump's visit to Walter Reed on Saturday did not follow the protocol of a routine presidential medical exam, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Medical staff at Walter Reed did not get a staff-wide notice about a presidential visit to the medic...
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[18-Nov-19 11:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The head of the university, Professor Jin-Guang Teng, tried to persuade the protesters to give up peacefully, saying in a video statement that he had arranged a deal with police whereby he would “personally accompany” them to the police station and “ensure your case is fairly processed”. `
lmao


[18-Nov-19 12:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/470861-biden-says-he-wont-legalize-marijuana-because-it-may-be-a-gateway-drug

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Biden says he won't legalize marijuana because it may be a 'gatewa...
Former Vice President Joe Biden defended his reasoning to not legalize marijuana on a federal level if elected president, saying there is not “enough evidence” as to “whether or not it is a gateway drug.”
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[18-Nov-19 12:21 PM] Crow#5457
shut the fuck up boomer


[18-Nov-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But teenagers might use weed to smoke the meths!"


[18-Nov-19 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch, teenagers are already smoking cigarettes and vapes, that's already a "gateway drug"


[18-Nov-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a far worse one at that since it introduces them to an addictive substance that gets worse the more you do it


[18-Nov-19 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but those don't cut into pharma profit, so i guess it;s ok if those remain, isnt it?


[18-Nov-19 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm still for the legalize everything and open rehab clinics in mroe places strategy though


[18-Nov-19 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna start buying up vodka in preparation for the bender after the DNC confirms Biden as their candidate


[18-Nov-19 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aheRpmurAo

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The Census: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
John Oliver discusses the census, why it matters, and the consequences of an undercount. Connect with Last Week Tonight online... Subscribe to the Last Week ...
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[18-Nov-19 12:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.is/1ScA2

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Trump reverses course on flavored vape ban, leaving it unclear whe...
archived 18 Nov 2019 03:01:47 UTC
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[18-Nov-19 12:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Trump reversed course on a plan to address the youth vaping epidemic because of concerns that job losses and angry vapers might hurt his reelection prospects`


[18-Nov-19 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the alt-right universally vapes


[18-Nov-19 01:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://youtu.be/dXyds_jalBU?t=403

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Late Night with Seth Meyers
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The Check In: Trump’s Unqualified Federal Judge Appointments
Seth takes a break from breaking news to check in on Trump appointing unqualified federal judges to serve lifetime appointments. Subscribe to Late Night: htt...
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[18-Nov-19 01:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(whole thing is worth watching, but that last nominee...)


[18-Nov-19 02:51 PM] Macarou#9574
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/25/the-new-left-economics-how-a-network-of-thinkers-is-transforming-capitalism

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The new left economics: how a network of thinkers is transforming ...
The long read: After decades of rightwing dominance, a transatlantic movement of leftwing economists is building a practical alternative to neoliberalism
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[18-Nov-19 02:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Macarou that idea about companies no longer having bosses is indeed better than what we have now, but i'd also like to throw in another idea; a completely moneyless economy, even though some may disagree with me


[18-Nov-19 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.pymnts.com/news/retail/2018/burning-man-silicon-valley-gift-economy-festivals/

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The Economics of the Burning Man Festival | PYMNTS.com
This weekend, 70,000 self-proclaimed Burners will hit the Burning Man Festival. But the economics that underpin Burning Man tend to yield conflicting opinions.
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[18-Nov-19 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Nov-19 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP is going to have to send people to physically restrain him


[18-Nov-19 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
No shit

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[18-Nov-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doug-manchester-possible-pay-to-play-scheme-for-ambassador-role-in-trump-administration-uncovered/

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Possible pay-to-play scheme for ambassador role in Trump administr...
Emails obtained by CBS News show Trump's nominee for ambassador to the Bahamas was asked by the RNC to donate half a million dollars as his confirmation in the Senate hung in the balance
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/11/18/3d3341fc-6990-4c21-beff-1e0ce9a91251/thumbnail/1200x630/8e2e0bc2023a06ac2fbfc1035567f3ae/doug-manchester-trump.jpg


[18-Nov-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump's Razor: the stupidest possible thing is true


[18-Nov-19 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 moneyless eco stumbles on scale, as usual. Magic words of 'heavy industry' and 'scientific research'.


[18-Nov-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it stumbles on many things really. Like many socialist-ish ideas, this won't happen in our lifetimes, regardless of how relatively long or short those might be.


[18-Nov-19 07:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah, obviously this would require a revolution that would break massively with all traditional standards of politics, PR, and diplomacy


[18-Nov-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
doesn't mean it can't work somehow, though, only that the pressures may be too great


[18-Nov-19 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article237463004.html

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Pete Buttigieg says he’s open to sending U.S. troops to Mexico
Pete Buttigieg told a California forum he’s open to sending U.S. troops to Mexico to fight drug trafficking. Other candidates at the event included Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Tom Steyer and Julián Castro.


[18-Nov-19 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
buttcheek posting cringe again


[18-Nov-19 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/business/how-fedex-cut-its-tax-bill-to-0.html

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How FedEx Cut Its Tax Bill to $0
The company, like much of corporate America, has not made good on its promised investment surge from President Trump’s 2017 tax cuts.
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[18-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
> Four months later, President Trump signed into law the $1.5 trillion tax cut that became his signature legislative achievement. FedEx reaped big savings, bringing its effective tax rate from 34 percent in fiscal year 2017 to less than zero in fiscal year 2018, meaning that, overall, the government technically owed it money. But it did not increase investment in new equipment and other assets in the fiscal year that followed, as Mr. Smith said businesses like his would.


[18-Nov-19 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
> Nearly two years after the tax law passed, the windfall to corporations like FedEx is becoming clear. A New York Times analysis of data compiled by Capital IQ shows no statistically meaningful relationship between the size of the tax cut that companies and industries received and the investments they made. If anything, the companies that received the biggest tax cuts increased their capital investment by less, on average, than companies that got smaller cuts.


[18-Nov-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
turns out trickle down is actually trickle up


[18-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://reason.com/2019/11/18/why-dont-environmentalists-just-buy-the-land-they-want-to-protect-because-its-against-the-rules/

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Why Don't Environmentalists Just Buy the Land They Want To Protect...
Stop me if you've heard this one before: An environmentalist walks into a federal auction and buys up the drilling
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[18-Nov-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, land goes up for auction, being completely illegal to buy for any other purpose than to destroy it


[18-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even when environmentalists are willing to pay boatloads to protect it, Republicans just strip their buying rights


[18-Nov-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
even when they succeed because of a law that allows protection, Republicans just repeal the law


[18-Nov-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/fViybqx.jpg

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[18-Nov-19 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim


[18-Nov-19 08:15 PM] ononim#8141
Ye


[18-Nov-19 08:16 PM] ononim#8141
Iirc same month as Hilter


[18-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
I read a thing that implied that germany would've been able to take moscow before winter if italy hadn't unilaterally started a fight with greece and needed hitler to come bail his ass out


[18-Nov-19 08:20 PM] ononim#8141
Duce, antifa icon


[18-Nov-19 08:20 PM] ononim#8141
He even hanged around with some partizans :twismug:


[18-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/dxo6df/hk_police_armored_truck_was_set_on_fire_by/

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HK police armored truck was set on fire by students defending The ...
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/DIOOOOOOOOOOOO • 53,289 points and 2,260 comments
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[18-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/HsYDlZv

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WTF!!!Share!!!
https://i.imgur.com/xIqSizfh.jpg


[18-Nov-19 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJoNzYAWoAAuA38.jpg:orig

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[18-Nov-19 09:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They're the same.


[18-Nov-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look at all the sameness going on


[18-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470982-house-democrats-announce-public-testimony-of-staffer-who-testified

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House Democrats announce public testimony of staffer who testified...
A State Department official based in Ukraine is slated to testify in a public impeachment hearing this week, where David Holmes is expected to describe a private phone call he overheard between President Trump and a top U.S.
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[18-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But why, we've got Sondland


[18-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mountain of evidence


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way you stop lies isn't by looking at subtle clues


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's by cross-referencing


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
You got 20 people who say X and 1 who says Y


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess who committed perjury.


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then the 1 changes Y to XZ


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
You then point out Z is impossible


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
they keep changing their lie


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
bam, not credible


[18-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least, that's how it works in trials


[18-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't really a trial


[18-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans aren't an impartial jury


[18-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
nor a judge


[18-Nov-19 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(also because Sondland isn't exactly trustworthy...)


[18-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But this guy just overheard Sondland talking on the phone


[18-Nov-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
It's evidence


[18-Nov-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember we started this proceeding with the smoking gun


[18-Nov-19 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
The idea is to nail down the corruption in broad daylight


[18-Nov-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
If republicans were not convinced by the official fucking readout of the call I don't know what would


[18-Nov-19 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't seem to care about the law


[18-Nov-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
They are participating in the hearings but the hearings are not for them


[18-Nov-19 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
They are for the public


[18-Nov-19 10:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Republicans all know it's all fucked up


[18-Nov-19 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They just don't care


[18-Nov-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They've invested so much in getting a base of hardcore zealot voters that they realize going against what Trump, FOX, OANN, Breitbart, etc. say is political suicide

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[18-Nov-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/DannyDeVito/status/1196524473614159872

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[18-Nov-19 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
blessed Danny


[18-Nov-19 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be funny, like some Twilight Zone episode, if it weren't, you know, real


[18-Nov-19 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like raising a child on some absurd notion to keep them in line, and then once they're older and should know better, still believe it and hold you to it


[18-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECLlJo0XoAITjqY.jpg

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[18-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One thing I don't get is "overturn the results of the 2016 election"


[18-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If Trump gets removed somehow, Pence would be president which is exactly how it works


[18-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
the claim is that it's authoritarian to impeach the president


[18-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
now I'm imagining a completely broken system where the voters can recall a sitting president by simple majority when the president got an overwhelming majority of the electoral votes


[18-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
would be kinda hilarious to watch from the outside


[18-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YszCTko

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Iranians rising up against the Islamic Republic regime. Chasing the regime forces down the streets while getting shot at in Shiraz
https://i.imgur.com/rvkBksZh.jpg


[18-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
> Iranians rising up against the Islamic Republic regime. Chasing the regime forces down the streets while getting shot at in Shiraz


[18-Nov-19 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim


[18-Nov-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nyti.ms/379s0ch

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‘Absolutely No Mercy’: Leaked Files Expose How China Organized...
More than 400 pages of internal Chinese documents provide an unprecedented inside look at the crackdown on ethnic minorities in the Xinjiang region.
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[18-Nov-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2019/11/16/san-francisco-and-nyc-begin-to-see-the-ugly-side-of-fair-workweek-laws/#198935924508

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San Francisco And NYC Begin To See The Ugly Side Of ‘Fair Workwe...
San Francisco and NYC retail and restaurant sectors are beginning to see the ugly side of socialism: store closures and layoffs, as their owners cannot keep up with local government mandates that raise the costs of their businesses.
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[18-Nov-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
look at all the bullshit in this article, wew


[18-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump'll likely soon move to make Pence easy to throw under the bus


[18-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
this is peak neoliberal boomer bullshit


[18-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Make it clear to the rest of the GOP that if things go sideway, they may get president Pelosi


[18-Nov-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump will throw everyone of "his people" under the bus until he;s cowering in a corner with no one left to throw


[18-Nov-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless he actually does decide to got hrough with going under oath in which case, he;s going to purjer himself so ufcking hard


[18-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ZWlfOoI

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just two guys, holding a flag together, showing off how straight they are
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[18-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[18-Nov-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope someone told them they should kiss


[18-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Two dudes trying really hard to tell other people they're totally not gay


[18-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NICE TRY, JEFF AND KEVIN


[18-Nov-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We can all see the make out craving in your eyes!


[18-Nov-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-district-attorney-public-urination-prostitution-not-prosecute-1471475?amp

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San Francisco's new DA will not prosecute prostitution, public uri...
Chesa Boudin said other quality-of-life crimes would also not be prosecuted when he took office, including public camping offences targeting the homeless.
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[18-Nov-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/470992-justice-ig-to-testify-next-month-on-alleged-2016-surveillance-abuse

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Justice IG to testify next month on alleged 2016 surveillance abuse
Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz will appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee next month to testify on a forthcoming report on alleged surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.
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[18-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"He added that he expected Horowitz to give a “detailed report” of his findings as well as make “recommendations as to how to make our judicial and investigative systems better.”"


[18-Nov-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So an attempt to distract when the House votes on impeachment the next week


[19-Nov-19 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0veLrwd9CK4

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[19-Nov-19 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chadtronic on coppa


[19-Nov-19 02:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm just patiently waiting for the local businesses to stop using XP and invest in technology upgrades/updates to reduce staff count.


[19-Nov-19 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/chick-fil-a-drops-donations-to-christian-charities-after-lgbt-protests.html

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Chick-fil-A no longer donates to controversial Christian charities...
A spokeswoman for Chick-fil-A told the Thomson Reuters Foundation the company would focus its giving on "education, homelessness and hunger."
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[19-Nov-19 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but they still have that shell charity they donate to that won't reveal where its money goes


[19-Nov-19 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the one that appeared out of nowhere the *last* time this happened


[19-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/646165624850219029/rudy.PNG

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[19-Nov-19 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
hah


[19-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/18/majority-support-removing-trump-071341

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Majority of Americans support ousting Trump from office, new poll ...
The poll also found that 70 percent believe that the president was wrong to pressure Ukraine to launch a probe into his political rivals.
https://static.politico.com/83/d3/0806c5e5405d979a4cc48c97c167/191118-trump-gty-773.jpg


[19-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"An ABC News/Ipsos poll published Monday found that 51 percent of those surveyed believed Trump should be impeached by House lawmakers, as well as convicted by the Senate. Six percent said that while Trump’s actions were wrong and that he should be impeached, he should not be ousted by the Senate. An additional 13 percent also deemed the president’s push for foreign investigations of his rivals to be wrong, but believed he should neither be impeached nor convicted by Congress. A quarter of respondents, 25 percent, said Trump did nothing wrong."


[19-Nov-19 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that 25 percent is probably gonna go "YEAH HUR THEY JUST POLLED ABC VIEWERS"


[19-Nov-19 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
those with enough braincells to knock together are going to look into KnowledgePanel and still make a similar claim of skewed representation


[19-Nov-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/11/18/meth-were-on-it-south-dakota-slogan/

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https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/11/18/meth-were-on-it-south-dakota-slogan/
'Meth. We're On It': South Dakota Has A Surprising New Slogan
South Dakota has a problem. And they're hoping a surprising new slogan will get people talking about it.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15909806/2019/11/meth-were-on-it.jpg?w=679


[19-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
👍


[19-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
are they legalizing meth or something


[19-Nov-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's meant to state "This meth problem, we're working on it"


[19-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's wordplay/intentionally odd


[19-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately the message was likely passed through 3 decision makers that are also complete morons before going to the glut of people that just don't give a shit as long as the paychecks clear


[19-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, pretty sure the double meaning was intended


[19-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw i can't confess to being high on meth without trademark infringement


[19-Nov-19 04:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  what source has it that both sides hate youtube btw


[19-Nov-19 04:30 AM] jlun2#8758
and specifically youtube, or content hosting in general?


[19-Nov-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was an article like a month ago


[19-Nov-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/youtube-to-pay-170-million-in-ftc-child-privacy-settlement.html

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YouTube will pay $170 million to settle claims it violated child p...
The FTC's probe found that the company violated privacy policies aimed at protecting children.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103921018-GettyImages-503572722.jpg?v=1567605330


[19-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
'In addition to the penalty, the settlement requires Google and YouTube to “develop, implement, and maintain a system that permits channel owners to identify their child-directed content on the YouTube platform” so that YouTube can ensure it is complying with COPPA. It also requires them to provide notice about their data collection practices and “obtain verifiable parental consent” before collecting personal information from children.'


[19-Nov-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“When it comes to fencing-in relief, the current order looks like a fence but one with only three sides,” Slaughter wrote in a dissenting statement. “The missing fourth side is a mechanism to ensure that content creators are telling the truth when they designate their content as not child-directed. And such a mechanism is surely within YouTube’s mighty technological capacity.”

While Smith, the bureau of consumer protection director, said he “appreciate[s] the concerns” the two dissenting Democratic commissioners raised in their statements, he is “saddened” by the partisan divide over the settlement.'


[19-Nov-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Chopra and fellow Democratic commissioner Rebecca Kelly Slaughter had both voted against the FTC’s earlier $5 billion settlement with Facebook, ending a probe into its data practices. Like the Facebook settlement, both argued the Google deal did not go far enough to curb what they describe as harmful practices.'


[19-Nov-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to like, really digest this for you


[19-Nov-19 04:34 AM] jlun2#8758
That's unfortunate; thanks for the post.


[19-Nov-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
What The FTC said amounts to "we will utterly destroy you with no mercy unless you within the next few months slap massive restrictions on anyone kids might watch"


[19-Nov-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this was seen as lenient by out-of-touch Democrats.


[19-Nov-19 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
ah


[19-Nov-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And somehow, they think these restrictions, which they noted specifically no other site would face


[19-Nov-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
are fine.


[19-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
tbh youtube probably could've challenged it successfully in court for being too punitive for something they can barely control


[19-Nov-19 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  Would that be rather tricky given Youtube kept bragging it can fix it with ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE? Or was that Facebook who said that?


[19-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/EuHUjqY

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Arrested being sent to train.HK
https://i.imgur.com/b9Ehreoh.jpg


[19-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
> Arrested being sent to train.HK


[19-Nov-19 05:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aheRpmurAo

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The Census: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
John Oliver discusses the census, why it matters, and the consequences of an undercount. Connect with Last Week Tonight online... Subscribe to the Last Week ...
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[19-Nov-19 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
channels that are deemed "targeting children" will not be searchable, lose their comments, will not be reccomended, will lose most of their monetization


[19-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
yay censorship.


[19-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
folks in EU will love this stuff.


[19-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Opponent#3498
their vision of the future is ultimate ignorant bliss, and if life invades your happy bubble of sterile joy, well, your only response is run crying to the Big Strong Men of police/government to save you.


[19-Nov-19 11:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to guess who their "parental orginization" is that made the demands, it;s probably one million moms


[19-Nov-19 11:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this sounds like soemthing they'd demand


[19-Nov-19 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that, or trump made the demand to crush a platform he doesn;t like


[19-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Opponent you can solve problems yourself? Especially if law prevents taking actions.


[19-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's another thing.


[19-Nov-19 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it's all part of the same design.


[19-Nov-19 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since it's only targeting youtube, most channels are considering packing up shop and moving to patreon as a new base of operations


[19-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Opponent#3498
patreon is good for funding, but not so much exposure and broadcast.


[19-Nov-19 11:36 AM] Opponent#3498
so... pornhub again? :/


[19-Nov-19 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can you monetize videos on pornhub?


[19-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure you can.


[19-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
but even if you can't, you have a broadcasting platform and use patreon to monetise.


[19-Nov-19 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
monetization is the problem here, most of the people effected make their living off those channels. they are losing living income because of coppa


[19-Nov-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why they;re considering moving to patreon


[19-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, but, again. There are options for that, in fact, Patreon is viewed by larger platforms as a superior choice (1$/month donations produce several times more income than several hundred thousand views per video would)


[19-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
the bigger problem is it being absent from recommended, leading to lack of exposure, leading to lack of supporters.


[19-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
and pornhub is... not ideal for solving this.


[19-Nov-19 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
being, well, pornhub.


[19-Nov-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... they don't want to be ignored by children, but apparently being enjoyed by children is something to be punished with a crushing rock tot he skull now


[19-Nov-19 11:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, pornhub is monetizable


[19-Nov-19 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the US has always been retarded with its "protect the children!" mentality, which is just really "I don't want to deal with being a parent, the state should do it for me!"


[19-Nov-19 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the government is just "I don;t want to deal with it either, throw a heavy weighted blanket over the problem and leave thme to the fines"


[19-Nov-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully the channels will still show up in my subscription page


[19-Nov-19 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're still learning all of the effects of coppa as it;s coming, things could potentially get far worse


[19-Nov-19 12:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't  PH was used by gun channels and then they were booted by PH?

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[19-Nov-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this bill also operateson the stupid principle that if they just cut off all the potentially "child friendly content" that children will just go away, insead what will likely happen is children will get bombarded with political news, gun channels, and hvac technical videos


[19-Nov-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the R rated horror videos


[19-Nov-19 12:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This will soon be deleted I guess, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAoONl2P8fw>


[19-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And we'll have to ban Watership Down videos, too


[19-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also anything Disney pre 2000


[19-Nov-19 12:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvgaCwLaxMI

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Why Is the Alt-Right So Angry? | The Daily Show
Michael Kosta sits down with psychologist Dr. David Ley to dig into his provocative theory about why members of the alt-right are so frustrated. #TheDailySho...
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[19-Nov-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/china-rule-hk-constitution-mask-ruling-191119004914628.html

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China says its courts trump Hong Kong's on face mask ruling
Chinese legislature condemns High Court decision to overturn law on face masks ban amid escalating protests in city.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2019/11/19/6a0154e7645340cea1ca760a33083a6c_18.jpg


[19-Nov-19 12:43 PM] Opponent#3498
@Эᴚ|∫ it was. But apparently it's still 'on and off' effort.


[19-Nov-19 12:43 PM] Opponent#3498
I haven't been keeping track for the last year.


[19-Nov-19 12:55 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) well, gun channels are covered by this bill, of course. Reps are already getting owned.


[19-Nov-19 12:55 PM] Opponent#3498
you'll get a double dose of hvac instead :3


[19-Nov-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gun channels are child friendly?


[19-Nov-19 12:56 PM] Opponent#3498
nah.


[19-Nov-19 12:56 PM] Opponent#3498
by covered, I mean, targetted.


[19-Nov-19 12:56 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how it will be sold to liberal crowd.


[19-Nov-19 12:57 PM] Opponent#3498
look, we keep bad thoughts and evil black high-capacity rapid fire assault rifles away.


[19-Nov-19 01:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Are nerf guns child friendly? :ponythinking:


[19-Nov-19 01:01 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not, you can poke an eye out with that thing I bet.


[19-Nov-19 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
besides, it can irrepairably damage a child's psyche and make them believe it's all right to shoot a person the government didn't designate as an enemy!


[19-Nov-19 01:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There's a channel with nerf guns from cardboard, this is going to fall under "illegal gun manufacture " :twicrazy:

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[19-Nov-19 01:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To prove fascists are always in league with porky, an easy argument imo is pointing at Augusto Pinochet


[19-Nov-19 01:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whenever some nazi argues he's part of the working class, just point at his stanning for Pinochet, ask him what sort of ideology and empire Pinochet was a minion for, and what legacy his regime befell upon Chile


[19-Nov-19 03:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pinochet is used for helicopter memes and because he's "fascist but you know, not the genocidey kind"


[19-Nov-19 03:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/471051-ukraine-president-zelensky-everybody-in-ukraine-is-so-tired-about

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Ukraine President Zelensky: 'Everybody in Ukraine is so tired abou...
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday that Ukrainians are “tired” of the energy company Burisma in response to a question from a CNN reporter.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zelenskyvolodymyr_092419getty_lead.jpg


[19-Nov-19 03:20 PM] Opponent#3498
he's right.


[19-Nov-19 03:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(he's also not answering the question)


[19-Nov-19 03:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's the thing here


[19-Nov-19 03:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Zelensky dodges question about alleged CNN interview" is the correct title


[19-Nov-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-19-19/

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Four key impeachment witnesses testify: Live updates
The impeachment hearing enters another week. Four impeachment inquiry witnesses — Jennifer Williams, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, Kurt Volker and Tim Morrison — will testify publicly. Follow here for the latest.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191118112538-vindman-williams-morrison-volker-split-super-tease.jpg


[19-Nov-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nunes is whining as usual


[19-Nov-19 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
well he answers yes and shows that he's weak. He answers no and potentially angers the next president.


[19-Nov-19 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
the correct move is to not answer.


[19-Nov-19 03:23 PM] Opponent#3498
(and also give a reason WHY he doesn't, 'it's not relevant to us, leave us out of your politics')


[19-Nov-19 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's his cow


[19-Nov-19 04:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Talking about John Solomon wow


[19-Nov-19 04:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because The Hill decided fact check them because they kept getting referenced


[19-Nov-19 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
the dem counsel reminds me of the protagonist from LA Noire...


[19-Nov-19 06:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
In a good way or bad way?


[19-Nov-19 06:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just looks like him


[19-Nov-19 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Nov-19 06:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Foucault: Schools are like a prison


[19-Nov-19 06:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
America: yes


[19-Nov-19 06:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://graphics.chicagotribune.com/illinois-seclusion/

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The Quiet Rooms: Children are being locked away, alone and terrifi...
Seclusion rooms are supposed to be a last resort, but students across the state are routinely put in them for infractions as minor as spilling milk.
http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/illinois-seclusion/img/thumbnail.jpg


[19-Nov-19 07:41 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/18/china-signs-defence-agreement-south-korea-us-angers-seoul-demand/

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China signs defence agreement with South Korea as US angers Seoul ...
The defence ministers of South Korea and China have agreed to develop their security ties to ensure stability in north-east Asia, the latest indication that Washington’s long-standing alliances in the region are fraying.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2019/11/18/TELEMMGLPICT000202373237-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth=1200


[19-Nov-19 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump just up and giving up on maintaining the American empire it seems


[19-Nov-19 07:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Awesome. So ya'll ready to wrangle with the realm of geopolitics and the nature of empire vs something like... coalition, or something?


[19-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
US needs more enemies to justify military spendings. It's hard enough to convince the public that upgrading from a 1m$ missile to 2m$ missile to shoot at ISIS weilding AKs and riding technicals is justified, but to do it over and over you want something more substantial.


[19-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
like, say, all-mighty Russia, who apparently elects US presidents on demand.


[19-Nov-19 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
or the Chinese colossus, growing on the western flank.


[19-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're overethinking it


[19-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Usually you're be right


[19-Nov-19 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In this case Trump is just a moron


[19-Nov-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
...honestly, yeah, that too can be a possibility :/


[19-Nov-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
This idea that the US somehow manufactured China and Russia as enemies, as both parties tried for ages to not point them out as enemies, is one of your more silly ones


[19-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's entire endgame is to separate the US from all the countries it protects to try scoop them up one at a time


[19-Nov-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, no, it didn't manufacture them as enemies. It manufactured them as credible threats.


[19-Nov-19 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
China isn't interested in a war. It won't ever be. With things going as they are, they will get their global dominance (even more so than now). It is inevitable.


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and Russia, well.


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, yes, I'm sure Russia grabbing Crimea and bombing the shit out of Syria were just in our imaginations


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And surely, Russia can't actually slightly nudge close votes in its favor on what the west is doing


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's crazy talk


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's hav pity on little Russia and its poor GDP


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's no threat guys!


[19-Nov-19 07:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
not all empires can last forever, even if China replaces the US they will make serious mistakes down the line


[19-Nov-19 07:58 PM] Opponent#3498
@everyone yeah but, the world survived US empire.


[19-Nov-19 07:58 PM] Opponent#3498
will it survive the new age gamified China?


[19-Nov-19 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
for all her talk of "rising peacefully" China sure does make a tantrum about Taiwan, the Spratleys, and ethnic minorities within their state


[19-Nov-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's not really about peace. They want their economic play, gradually rolling up the territories and subjugating them, without giving any reason to start a war.


[19-Nov-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
right now they play _really_ well at capitalism.


[19-Nov-19 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[19-Nov-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nobody can sanction them for their behaviour without risking economic collapse due to losing trade with one of the world's largest markets


[19-Nov-19 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie as for Russia, well, before Crimea, there was South Ossetia. Before that, there was Chechnya, before that, there was Pridnestrovie. Don't remember US ever be overly concerned before. Russia does it's thing, bites the weak neigbours, morphs chunks of their land into lawless enclaves for cheap pressure.


[19-Nov-19 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a big issue for us, surely. For USA? Only in local geopolitical sense maybe. Then again, we're thankful for the assistance anyway.


[19-Nov-19 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
what I'm curious to see is if NATO gonna protect Baltic states. They'd be the next on the menu if Ukraine disintegrated, so as small as they were, they were also some of our strongest and earliest supporters.


[19-Nov-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WW3 might begin if Russia ever dares to invade the Baltic states


[19-Nov-19 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and vice versa, in a way


[19-Nov-19 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it's a bit like the situation of Belgium between France and Germany during WWI and WW2


[19-Nov-19 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I think this is why NATO is so interested in our conflict. It's a rare example of reasonably even modern engagement, limited in scope for ease of study, without NBC on the table.


[19-Nov-19 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
cause typically the modern wars are pretty assymetric, at least the last couple decades.


[19-Nov-19 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Russia would need to also be controlling Belarus in order to be able to invade the Baltic states though


[19-Nov-19 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
since Belarus is still under the rule of an anti-Putin strongman


[19-Nov-19 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
most Belarusians consider themselves Russians, fyi


[19-Nov-19 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, and Belarus is... interesting. They were always kinda friendly with Russia but not really. I've seen recently (like a year ago or so) Lukashenko expelled a russian base, but the fact that they had one there in the first place is telling.


[19-Nov-19 08:15 PM] Opponent#3498
Belarus has strong economic ties to Russia as well.


[19-Nov-19 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lukashenko might be looking at most of Russia's neighbors and coming to the conclusion that Putin's coming for him next


[19-Nov-19 08:15 PM] Opponent#3498
most likely, yeah.


[19-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Volker soon


[19-Nov-19 08:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/election-2019-50474572

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[19-Nov-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
what is up with British people and forced labor


[19-Nov-19 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
no offense to anglos


[19-Nov-19 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Full offence, anglos don't believe humans have intrinsic value; they're either family or a work force


[19-Nov-19 09:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anglos still support a monarchy. Of course they have a family fetish. They must see the breeding


[19-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, the US and UK societies seem to revolve around punishing people for not behaving in a certain way instead of fixing the problem causing the undesired behavior to begin with


[19-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
like punishing homeless for being homeless instead of fixing the economy or even just making shelters


[19-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
like in the UK, they criminalized public urination to stop people from pissing on buildings, in france, they put out these trash can looking things with hay in them to mask the scent for people to piss in instead


[19-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
both "solve" the problem, but one is punitive while the other offers an alternative


[19-Nov-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
Fuck


[19-Nov-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
Wrong copypaste


[19-Nov-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
Uhh


[19-Nov-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway


[19-Nov-19 09:12 PM] ononim#8141

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[19-Nov-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
schools have solitary confinement now?


[19-Nov-19 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck


[19-Nov-19 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[19-Nov-19 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BoJo's arguing with Jezza on British TV now


[19-Nov-19 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and i heard BoJo is saying a lof cringe


[19-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How would the election be overturned if Pence became president


[19-Nov-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cb48b78021aa4e1dbe3fbdadc57f4dcb

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[19-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rudy's gonna get bused so hard


[19-Nov-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what his insurance is


[19-Nov-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe it;s trump secret cleveland steamer tape


[19-Nov-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/19/what-momentum-looks-sanders-becomes-fastest-presidential-candidate-history-reach-4

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[19-Nov-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-prison-officers-arrested-in-connection-with-jeffrey-epsteins-suicide-20191119?source=facebook

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[19-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it's this again, how is this story still relevant on par with impeachment, Russia and everything else?


[19-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone thinks the people they hate the most were fucking kids with Epstein and were involved in having him killed to silence him

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[19-Nov-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, this had *better* not be the last we hear of it, the coverup in his death goes well above two disposable security guards


[19-Nov-19 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's 2019. Multiple cameras don't just fail for hours at a time


[19-Nov-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
relevence is not dependant on excitement level, these cases still need to be handled


[19-Nov-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
impeachment shouldnt be a distraction from everything else going on


[19-Nov-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bbdf8ca661ae41399a44db81e631cfe6

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[19-Nov-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/471033-south-dakota-governor-doubles-down-on-meth-were-on-it-anti-drug-campaign

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[19-Nov-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
clever


[19-Nov-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but still no


[19-Nov-19 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Volker and Morrison saying nothing concerned them but also saying he talked to Sondland about how the aid was connected to an investigation


[19-Nov-19 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVcI-DQdYA

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[20-Nov-19 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5H9naKN

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[20-Nov-19 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh no matter how much you play the words, you'll never convince the people who actually got layed off in favour of immigrants of this


[20-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
you could, actually, by pointing out that immigrants don't have power over who gets the job


[20-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's the boss who determines which person gets the job


[20-Nov-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's just easier to convince people it's the "outsider" who's the problem


[20-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
because of the ingrained tribalist mentality of humanity


[20-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
especially because of how relatively racist the US is compared to the rest of the west


[20-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that england has the same problem with racism


[20-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
which is one of the cornerstones of brexit


[20-Nov-19 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
because the UKIP and tories don't like all the "foreigners" allowed to legally immigrate because of the open border policy of the EU


[20-Nov-19 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/webbychameleon/status/1009494832371421185

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[20-Nov-19 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it's an anglo thing


[20-Nov-19 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I was trying to relate it back to this stuff from earlier https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/646440542275764229


[20-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Nov-19 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.insider.com/ohio-abortion-ban-proposal-can-you-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancies-2019-11

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[20-Nov-19 02:30 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Until you realize that many of these """employers""" are, in fact, not of your 'tribe'...


[20-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] all of these absurd proposals are simply to challenge Roe to get it overturned


[20-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
two citizens of the same country are supposed to be considered "tribe" members


[20-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Once it is, it will be "banned except rape and incest"


[20-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's intentionally trying to push the envelope to trick people into challenging it


[20-Nov-19 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
in reality, a worker would have more in common with the immigrant who "took" their job than the person who fired the worker and hired the immigrant


[20-Nov-19 02:33 AM] Maulkin12#8001
@Crow that is not how it works; indeed, multicultural societies show that it does not in fact work like that. Multicultural societies show that multiple 'tribes' in a society do not cohere; they have distinct and different goals, values, means, etc.


[20-Nov-19 02:33 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I do not think a 'worker' has much in common with either, looking at the demographics of both.


[20-Nov-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
you kinda missed the wording I did to try and imply that it doesn't actually work the way I was wording it


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
JEWS AND GENTILES CANNOT MIX


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
RACE WAR NOW


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Well.


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
and even then, two citizens of the same nation are literally "tribe members" by the definition of citizenship


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
I also said that the worker has MORE in common with the immigrant than the boss


[20-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
not that they're practically siblings lol


[20-Nov-19 02:39 AM] Maulkin12#8001
You can say they belong to members of the same 'group', sure - that is, they are both legal citizens of the same country. However, to say they belong to the same 'tribe' implies a closer relation than just 'group', and... well, there's really nothing one necessarily has to do with other citizens in a multicultural society.

We can say, in mono-cultural, mono-ethnic societies (and you can see this in several traditional Asian countries) that effectively everyone, barring a few outliers, belongs to the same 'tribe'. I don't think you can say that in places like America and Western Europe, however, where the countries are multi-cultural and many 'tribes' have come together.


[20-Nov-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking I don't buy that, this legislator is just off his fucking rocker


[20-Nov-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
When Massachusetts first legalized gay marriage he said they needed to be "expelled from the union"


[20-Nov-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
No envelope-pushing ulterior motives here he's just a total wingnut who is probably secretly gay


[20-Nov-19 02:40 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I'm gay and against gay marriage; what's that make me? =p


[20-Nov-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
gay


[20-Nov-19 02:41 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I prefer 'penissexual'


[20-Nov-19 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
tribalism has many different layers, everywhere from which sports team you root for to which nation you're from, hatred of immigrants has pretty much always been a tribalist issue


[20-Nov-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I think that's a poor decision to make considering the conference of federal benefits associated with marriage that you would be ineligible for


[20-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
immigrants have never been liked in the US, even though the US is quite literally a nation founded by immigrants


[20-Nov-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
should we do away with the idea of marriage altogether? I think so, but until then, this is what you need to do to make it equal


[20-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
and no country really "likes" immigrants either


[20-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Then what exactly is wrong with tribalism?


[20-Nov-19 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
even germany doesn't like immigrants, even though immigrants are vital for its continued economic success


[20-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Immigrants are not vital for 'continued economic success'.


[20-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they are in germany actually


[20-Nov-19 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
they are when your population growth is slowing down


[20-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
but anyway


[20-Nov-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
tribalism is problematic because it drives people to cause conflict with one another when there is no other underlying reason for them to clash


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
which includes the US btw


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Maulkin12#8001
The population growth is negative because the native Germans are having to subsidize the welfare of those coming in, and are effectively being pushed out; get rid of that, and the population will stabilize.


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
horseshit


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Maulkin12#8001
now, byte; can you get rid of tribalism for everyone?


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
the population growth isn't negative yet, but it's slowing down and will eventually revert in a few decades


[20-Nov-19 02:44 AM] Maulkin12#8001
that is - can you make everyone not be tribalistic?


[20-Nov-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
whether or not you can eradicate something doesn't mean you can't do a damn good job at controlling it


[20-Nov-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
we did a pretty good job at eradicating measles (at least until now)


[20-Nov-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think we can make everyone not be tribalistic at some level because, despite my dislike for biological determinism, it literally is "in our genes" so to speak


[20-Nov-19 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
tribalism itself isn't the problem, it's the extreme degree that tribalism has been taken to in regards to immigrants


[20-Nov-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be aware of how it affects them and steps they can take to reduce their internal biases


[20-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Maulkin12#8001
But, that's the thing; you really can't 'control' tribalism; what ends up happening is one tribe decides tribalism is bad and tries not to tribalize - tries not to show in-group preference - and so other competing tribes out-compete them, and essentially destroy the other tribe. 

You might not like tribalism - you may want everyone to treat everyone equally. However, that's simply not a feasible goal; having in-group preference is always going to be a better survival trait than being atomized.


[20-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
you can control tribalism actually


[20-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
the US did it for asians


[20-Nov-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
that is again a total horseshit argument


[20-Nov-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
we've been controlling tribalism for millenia


[20-Nov-19 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
the US put out tons of pro-asian propaganda in the 50's and 60's to basically paint asians as "like white but smarter" in order to promote friendship with asian countries so they didn't go socialist and ally with the USSR


[20-Nov-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and what's more not showing tribalistic tendencies does not cause ingroups to become "soft"


[20-Nov-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
it causes them to be _fair_


[20-Nov-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the distinction


[20-Nov-19 02:49 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Asians in the US are extremely tribal - outright racist, quite often. They have strong ties to their cultural and ethnic identity. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing; I think it's natural for them, and indeed natural for everyone to have this in-group preference based on race and culture.

What is, frankly, suicidal, is the insistence that tribalism is a bad thing that only applies to one's own tribe.


[20-Nov-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
and it's funny how quickly the american population turned from anti-asian to pro-asian


[20-Nov-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
because asians were hated for decades for being hired over americans for building the railroads and shit


[20-Nov-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
what is your argument


[20-Nov-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
you redirected it again and aren't addressing any of our responses


[20-Nov-19 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
also that whole thing about asians being tribal applies mainly to the immigrants themselves, not the descendents


[20-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Maulkin12#8001
It doesn't make them fair, though; it just makes them soft. Let's consider whites, for instance; if a white person wanted to make, say, a white group - something advocating for whites and white tribal notions, it would be decried as racist and terrible and evil. Yet we can see countless examples of Asian, Black, Hispanic, etc, groups that advocate for and promote their interests.

Are Whites stronger for this? No; they are weaker for it.


[20-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't personally met an asian american who didn't cringe at how tribal and borderline racist their immigrant family is


[20-Nov-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
let me first clarify that white people are not a racial ingroup, because that's a bad assumption


[20-Nov-19 02:52 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Are blacks a racial group?


[20-Nov-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and second, I agree with you, racial minorities _shouldn't_ need to show ingroup preferences


[20-Nov-19 02:52 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Are Asians a racial group?


[20-Nov-19 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
but they do, because they've been systematically discriminated against and that helps them fight the discrimination in tangible ways


[20-Nov-19 02:53 AM] Maulkin12#8001
If you'd prefer, we could use "White" as shorthand for "European Heritage", and "Black" for "African Heritage", etc. Those are racial groups, are they not?


[20-Nov-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
"white people" (well, jews aside) haven't really been the target of such discrimination


[20-Nov-19 02:53 AM] Maulkin12#8001
And if whites are systematically discriminated against, doesn't that mean whites should show in-group preference to help fight that discrimination?


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
sure


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
but they aren't


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] Maulkin12#8001
They are.


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
at least not in the west


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
(you can find exceptions of course, but they're uncommon)


[20-Nov-19 02:54 AM] Maulkin12#8001
They absolutely are, in the west. There are many opportunities I do not enjoy on account of my race, and many penalties I endure because of my race; all because I am white.

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[20-Nov-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
have you been denied a job or housing because of your race


[20-Nov-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
have you been falsely accused of a crime you did not commit for your skin color


[20-Nov-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
what about had racial epithets screamed at you


[20-Nov-19 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
the kinds of discrimination that affect white people in the west are _not_ systematic the way it affects e.g. black people


[20-Nov-19 02:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
discrimination is still discrimination


[20-Nov-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
things have degrees


[20-Nov-19 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
don't be a distinction denier


[20-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Yes, I have been denied a job because I am white, and companies would rather hire someone of 'diversity'. As for housing, the difficulty of getting a job as a white male has no-doubt hampered this; combine this with SAT score and college acceptance, minority-sponsoring programs, etc, and it's quite clear that whites are indeed discriminated against.

So, Whites should be able to 'tribalize', and seek their own in-group preference to fight against this discrimination.


[20-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
two wrongs don't make a right


[20-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Maulkin12#8001
And yes, I regularly see racial epithets being used against white people, especially in media.


[20-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
"whites" have been doing this for centuries


[20-Nov-19 02:57 AM] Maulkin12#8001
So that makes it okay, Crow?


[20-Nov-19 02:58 AM] Maulkin12#8001
It seems to me like the cause of this is, indeed, multiculturalism and multi-ethnic socieites.


[20-Nov-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
>Yes, I have been denied a job because I am white, and companies would rather hire someone of 'diversity'.
the litmus test for that kind of employment discrimination is if you prove that the job didn't hire _any_ white people and that this excluded you from meaningful employment over your entire life

similar for the rest of what you said


[20-Nov-19 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
because that actually happens to black people


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
no, I'm arguing against the fact that you seem to think it's okay that whites "tribalize", not that it's ok to "tribalize" in general


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Byte, if I am passed up for a job because of my race - if they take race as a factor, period, and view other races more favoribly or my race disfavorably - then I am being 'systematically discriminated against'.


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Being inconvenienced by an isolated "SJW" employer is not comparable to being born with what is in practice a visual stain on your persona


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
being systematically discriminated against means _it's pervasive_


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
tribalism is a defect in modern society


[20-Nov-19 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No one's going to build a system where white people are going to be discriminated against


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
back when humans lived in literal tribes of 50-200, it was vital to survival


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie need you


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
but in giant societies of hundreds of millions of people, tribalism is a very big flaw


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
look at what's going on in south africa


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah I'm not talking about south africa


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there is a system being built down there


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Look at what's going on in South Africa"


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] Maulkin12#8001
everyone (trolly name, btw), this is a matter of law; and, yes, there are very much systems just like that, and indeed in the US, where whites are treated disfavorably or non-whites are put ahead. 

This is discrimination against whites; indeed, it is *systematic*, as it is part of these systems.


[20-Nov-19 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I specifically scoped this to "the west" and most of my comments are in reference to the US


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every white South African i've interacted with has told me that all this drama about white South Africans being opressed is bs


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] Maulkin12#8001
And in the US, whites are discriminated against regularly.


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
no they aren't lol


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What kind of baseless bullshit is this


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Show your evidence


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and how many was that everyone? and where in south Africa are they located?


[20-Nov-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We got tons upon tons of concrete data to prove that african-americans are heavily discriminated against


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
whites are not pervasively denied jobs, housing, education etc. because of their skin color


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
blacks _are_


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] Maulkin12#8001
yes they are. I gave you several examples already;

SAT scoring for college entrance; 
Employment policies which favor non-whites over whites
Government loans which favor non-white ancestry
Media treatment of whites

Would you like more?


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In regards to "anti-white racism" all there is are a few videos by Sargon of Akkad


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, is this the "racism against whites and blakks is opposite but equal" argument?


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah none of those are even remotely relevant


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And affirmative action which is a non-issue


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
they're not "pervasive"


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
in any sense


[20-Nov-19 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's as bullshit as the idea of segregation itself being "separate but equal"


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people literally get denied, flatout denied, housing in many areas


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how many friends do you have in south africa everyone? do they live in the cities? if so which one?


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Maulkin12#8001
See? This is why whites need to tribalize; we can say, "look, these are issues, and they are really hurting us" and we're told that's not relavant, that what we're facing is unimportant, that it's nothing compared to such-and-such;

This seems really quite discriminatory.


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
or get arrested or shot by police


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
for things whites wouldn't be.


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
the evidence is that "diversity drives exist, so it's racism against whites" when those examples are exceptions at best and isolated incidents at worst, even though they're still hiring whites


[20-Nov-19 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside that's not the point, the data and historical evidence in South Africa points  pto whites not being a discriminated minority


[20-Nov-19 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apartheid did leave its legacy and that does include white SA's being richer on average


[20-Nov-19 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not like it all ended with Mandela


[20-Nov-19 03:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 but you cite talking to people living there as your proof of there not being a crisis


[20-Nov-19 03:04 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Whites need to tribalize, and form our own groups, in order to fight against this discrimination.


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
all i ask is more info regarding that to back up your claim


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Maulkin12#8001
The very fact that you're trying to dismiss these legitimate concerns and grievances shows just how deeply rooted this anti-white discrimination goes.


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
prove it


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lolwut


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Sure; I just did.


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem here bud is capitalism


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
no, you made a claim


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not "SJWs" or whatever


[20-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
opinions are not proof


[20-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Maulkin12#8001
And you've made several as well, with the same level of proof.


[20-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Anyway, seeya - it's been fun


[20-Nov-19 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It feels like some people aren't boomers in body but are in mind


[20-Nov-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
the embodiment of "no u"


[20-Nov-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
ideally, no discrimination would ever happen and all races would coexist peacefully


[20-Nov-19 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[20-Nov-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
we don't live in that world, discrimination happens


[20-Nov-19 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
@Maulkin12 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-anti-white-discrimination/

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The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
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[20-Nov-19 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and that discrimination is overwhelmingly against racial minorities, with _very strong tangible evidence_ that supports that


[20-Nov-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
what you've listed is your personal claims of being personally affected by racial discrimination


[20-Nov-19 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
and by my evidentiary standards anecdotal evidence isn't evidence


[20-Nov-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
if it was, I would have to take everyone who had some experience of talking to a divine creator at their word


[20-Nov-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
there is a difference, obviously: it's eminently possible you were discriminated against for your race, but it's not fucking likely
where as it's completely impossible that a magical fairy actually talked to someone


[20-Nov-19 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When your ideology has not been updated since gamergate and all you do afterwards is improvise


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
dug through his comments on the site


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
he's a professed anti-SJW


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
(I'm sure that was obvious)


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, another driveby troll who noticed there was a #politics channel and wanted to stir up some shit


[20-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not trolls, Crow


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
SJWs aRE bAd sO wE sHULd be NAZis


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just like that


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
BSABSVR


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
really?


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want a convenient disguise to go full racist.


[20-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hating on SJUWs is a convenient excuse.


[20-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that hit 16-25 during the 3-4 years before and after gamergate (etc) that felt attacked in some way and over invested in attacking back and identifying with everyone else that felt attacked


[20-Nov-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
I thought it was funny how he tried to start out all philosophical on the topic and then just abandoned it entirely as soon as the slightest bit of resistance was met


[20-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if that was an attempt to confuse people or what


[20-Nov-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you attempt to argue that humans are naturally tribalistic but forget that through the entire history of human civilization people have exchanged and interacted with other tribes.


[20-Nov-19 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
There once was a time that entire western nations were eighty different language differentiations. You could be in London and wander out and in a few villages their dialect is almost unintelligible and still be in England.


[20-Nov-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Nov-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you're gay but can't disengage from the act


[20-Nov-19 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
The notion that absolutely all humans are against the other is devoid of any wisdom since it overlooks this fact. It could be argued that the process of modernity is a sort of anti-entropy, since it's taken a diverse range of chemicals and has been making them one since the French Revolution and the national press. Otherwise common language was for the aristocracy. It's probably worse in America where internal migration is so high that the entire nation is somewhere else in a generation.


[20-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
yes, humanity was basically born from barely organized chaos and discovered that the less chaotic things are, the easier it is to thrive


[20-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
and, in a similar way that businesses want to coalesce and form giant companies because it reduces costs and whatnot, humans have slowly been removing the barriers between them in order to make stuff easier


[20-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
the EU being the largest modern example


[20-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
in some ways, I'd say the EU is a bigger experiment than the US was


[20-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
because if the EU succeeds, it's the final proof that putting up artificial borders just isn't optimal anymore


[20-Nov-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/19/chick-fil-a-backtracks-anti-lgbt-donations/

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[20-Nov-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait so


[20-Nov-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chick Fil-A will continue funding anti-LGBT groups?


[20-Nov-19 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're surprised by that?


[20-Nov-19 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No it's just that double negatives confuse the fuck out of me


[20-Nov-19 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fair enough...it just should've been obvious


[20-Nov-19 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
given the last time they promised this, they ended up shunting a bunch of their charity money into this shell charity that didn't really say what it was doing with the money


[20-Nov-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow This implies this was a concious effort by all of mankind to get to this stage and not an effort of a small class. While yes: liberal nationalism after 1790 began the progress to increasingly homogenous identities it could not be said to be an effort of all peoples. Since in France Occitan speakers of southern France violently resisted the army of the Republic when dispatched to quell rebellion because they believed they were under threat by the new order that sought to make the Parisian dialect of French the defacto French in all France. Likewise the centralization of land in England under Enclosure was resisted. As cases these are evidence against the assumption I'm reading that there's an inmate tendency to centralize all things  by mankind. It's also just as easy and common outside of America to learn multiple languages for all purposes.


[20-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
well, it didn't used to be a conscious effort, but it is in modern times


[20-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
globalism


[20-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
which is what I meant


[20-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
humans are "outside the cycle", as it were, humanity isn't really bound by much of its evolution anymore beyond minor stuff like tribalism


[20-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
I thought it was funny that that dude tried to turn tribalism into some sort of end-all that be-all of humanity, when humanity has been passively resisting it for millennia to optimize civilization because it made things harder


[20-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
though tribalism was still important when food production was still a zero-sum game (ie how much land you had was directly proportional to your food production)


[20-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
but now that food production is exponential as science and technology gets better, tribalism itself has become pretty much useless


[20-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ

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[20-Nov-19 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're not really building an argument. You're leaving me hanging here. Since the improvement of agriculture to the point of all production now over consumption doesn't explain global movement of capital. Because historically there have been cases throughout the world where agricultural production in a region has gone beyond its natural capacity to feed mankind because human modification. Persian aquaducts irrigated Iran's vast valleys to feed an immense population and fostered the largest empires in the near East by creating rich heartland, until the Mongols destroyed the system, and Bahgdad was likewise the richest city for millennia because its agricultural capacity could support an immense population. But neither of these facilitated a globalized Empire and made as much of an impact as trade today, or the use of language and concentration of culture. China likewise has had a history of consistently adding to its capacity with monumental engineering projects that helped it expand its population despite its rugid terrain, but its lasting influence has mostly been felt in descending order in: Korea, Vietnam, Japan.


[20-Nov-19 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
The agricultural argument also falters in that the ability for this to play a part in global economy requires that one: the structures of the economy facilitate that. And two: the means exist for agricultural commodities to be traded long distance, or it plays more a factor in local economies than larger regional or global economies. The Dutch never traded wheat to America, they trades wheat to the Baltic. That was its furthest extent per the material conditions of the time. But the notion to trade wheat in the first place required a shift in power over the economy from feudla landlordism to nascent capitalism in the first place.


[20-Nov-19 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, my argument is that tribalism isn't just only a minor part of the human experience, it's also actively detrimental to modern civilization


[20-Nov-19 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
but it was important in the past to avoid extermination


[20-Nov-19 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
also, those examples about aqueducts and unusually strong agricultural capacities were the exceptions, not the rules, and it still translated to land being linearly proportional to food production, just with a higher slope


[20-Nov-19 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
humans evolved in tribes of 50-200 for hundreds of thousands of years, and it was an almost universal rule that other tribes wanted to destroy yours and steal all your resources


[20-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's only after civilization started that tribalism started becoming less of a benefit and more of a liability, and it's only in the past century and a half that tribalism has become completely unnecessary to human survival


[20-Nov-19 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
If it's a universal rule everyone wanted to steal everything from the next valley over trade and economics would have never developed. But the whole of human history is marked as much by trade as it is by war, because as it also turns out: war is expensive. Even people on the hinterlands of empires exchanged with people in the hinterlands of the other polity.


[20-Nov-19 05:17 AM] Crow#5457
(civilization started about 12 thousand years ago)


[20-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
really, I get the feeling that the first true civilization was just a tribe that got so big and powerful that it didn't need to fear other tribes


[20-Nov-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
and they needed more people to keep expanding, so they offered clemency in exchange for work instead of death


[20-Nov-19 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution

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[20-Nov-19 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
that power would've been directly based in the farming techniques they developed


[20-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
and that's how more manpower would directly translate to a stronger "tribe" as it were


[20-Nov-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
it's probably how slavery started


[20-Nov-19 05:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fam. No. Your entire premise is just exhausted because economics exist as a concept. Lol. This dog-eat-dog all to conflict with The Other is borderline fash worldview. It overlooks an entire tradition unknown to people living in the west or even in the modern homogenous environments most of us live. War is not, nor was it ever the single aspect of the human condition, though it arises. You can look at any """non-civilized""" part of the world to discover there's plenty of overlap between dozens of people. Australian aboriginals often were fluent in many many languages because language was associated with the land they were in, and crossing over so much as a stream facilitates a complete switch in the language spoken. People in South Africa often speak upwards of five languages because of who their parents are, where they live, and because English is the defacto language of the Republic and Afrikans the language of the whites, even South African whites know several languages by their social affiliation with otherwise competing groups according to the worldview you're expousing.


[20-Nov-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
there WAS no economics before civilization


[20-Nov-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
economics as a concept did not exist before civilization


[20-Nov-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Economics exists so long as any form of commodity exists for use, management, and exchange. It just was not understood as such until later.


[20-Nov-19 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's like the meme about how Oxygen only existed come discovery.


[20-Nov-19 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
economics is literally the knowledge of maintaining the house


[20-Nov-19 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
We didn't just start giving someone a shovel for an ax until some Greek dude said, "you can do this for gold y'know shit's lit"


[20-Nov-19 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If there is something in the orbit of what one considers theirs or of their being, its handling is economics


[20-Nov-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what Genghis Khan did, @Crow?


[20-Nov-19 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
So long as someone or group had things on offer or a service on offer then you can give one to another. Not neccesarily for money, but as an exchange of gifts, as many tribal societies still do. And many poor in modern society still do


[20-Nov-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
genghis khan was after civilization started


[20-Nov-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was late to the party, but his whole deal was to assimilate/exterminate instead of revenge cycle.


[20-Nov-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Previously his people lived in nomadic tribes


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea was, raid a tribe fast and loose, sew chaos


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
every man for himself, grab all the stuff


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
that's what I was saying


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he figured it'd be better if instead, he distributed loot


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
the idea of trading with another tribe tens of thousands of years ago would've been considered near suicidal because of how likely it would've been for that tribe to just straight up attack yours


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh this wasn't about trading


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trading came later.


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[20-Nov-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
aaron was saying that there was trade before civilization


[20-Nov-19 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because there was


[20-Nov-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trading was *important* to Genghis Khan, but it wasn't why he organized the tribes, or necessarily how.


[20-Nov-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was just a source of wealth.


[20-Nov-19 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can find stuff that travels in "pre-civilization" graves


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So by distributing loot after a raid, he ensured his troops could act in an organized manner


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
kill all the enemy soldiers


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
And trade even still existed among the Mongols. Trade with China was fundamental to them. So much so given their over all lack of resources to the politics of the steppe.


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
loot all the stuff with minimal destruction


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
and capture all the civilians


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thereby *assimilating* the enemy camp instead of scattering it.


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Discord in Mongolia wasn't a tendency of their poverty or backwardness, but because the Chinese kept them off their back by giving them stuff. And giving them stuff in such a way they could affect the political make up of the clans.


[20-Nov-19 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also when he found an enemy a tad too big to just incorporate easily, he executed all the men.


[20-Nov-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is classic genocide stuff sure


[20-Nov-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he was very organized about it, that's the whole point.


[20-Nov-19 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of making more and more enemies, he made more and more vassals.


[20-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then went to town on China


[20-Nov-19 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then had amazing Silk Road trade and lots of engineers captured from the enemy etc. etc.


[20-Nov-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamag_Mongol

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Khamag Mongol (Mongolian: Хамаг монгол, lit. "Whole Mongol") was a major Mongolic tribal confederation (khanlig) on the Mongolian Plateau in the 12th century. It is sometimes also considered a predecessor state to the Mongol Empire.The existence of a somewhat myste...
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[20-Nov-19 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the Mongols were fairly well organized even before Genghis


[20-Nov-19 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
And ya'll just spouting mythos


[20-Nov-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing is binary in life.


[20-Nov-19 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A change to the way society works has real effects on how much people work together and at what scale.


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
btw, I'm hard-pressed to find much information about trading in prehistory, I only found a single citation on wikipedia that says there was some proof of trade 150,000 years ago, and everything on google is turning up stuff from after civilization started


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, some civilizations *varied in social structure* by the seasons


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In winter, they'd form a big hierarchy with a ruler


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In summer, scattered tribes


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
at most, I could see a few tribes that split up after becoming too large maintaining friendly relations with each other, but most of the models and studies done on the behavior of prehistorical tribes was mostly smash and grab raiding tendencies like what the mongols used to do


[20-Nov-19 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so in the summer, they could do their tribal warfare


[20-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but once winter came, they'd pakk up and listen to who was chosen to be in charge


[20-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that tribalism can change, sometimes even in the course of just a few months.


[20-Nov-19 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liao_dynasty

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liao_dynasty
Liao dynasty
The Liao dynasty (; Khitan: Mos Jælud; traditional Chinese: 遼朝; simplified Chinese: 辽朝; pinyin: Liáo cháo), also known as the Liao Empire, officially the Great Liao (大遼; 大辽; Dà Liáo), or the Khitan (Qidan) State (Khitan: Mos diau-d kitai huldʒi gur), was...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/KhitanAD1000.png/1200px-KhitanAD1000.png


[20-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tribalism is in general detrimental to resources.


[20-Nov-19 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there are not enuff resources for everyone, there will be *some* kind of conflict


[20-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more tribal society is at that moment, the more that conflict will be wasteful


[20-Nov-19 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Crow is lacking in historical analysis and should probably get off of YouTube except to atleast find primary sources audiobooks. And Nebbie is still historically off the damn mark.


[20-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you will hav people denied that resource beyond what is necessary


[20-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
When people aggregate their societies together, then it makes for more efficient use of the resource.


[20-Nov-19 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why it would be winter in ancient times that puts tribes together in Inuit or ancient British societies


[20-Nov-19 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
and I'm still getting called a fascist by leftists and a communist by fascists, so nothing's really changed there


[20-Nov-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less resources means you need to put someone in charge and hav rules in place and systems


[20-Nov-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
or else you waste them.


[20-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
also, I didn't really learn anything on youtube, I just had a convenient video I remembered watching that explained what I was trying to say more concisely


[20-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over time, societies hav kept aggregating together


[20-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
I still explained it exactly as I meant it


[20-Nov-19 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and perhaps more importantly, the human-caused death rate has gone down


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
In tribal societies, upwards of 40% of deaths are caused by other humans.


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just external warfare


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
internal divisions too


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
people just kill each other over a bit of stealing or such


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the part resembles the whole


[20-Nov-19 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 'tribe' itself is composed of families, which are composed of individuals.


[20-Nov-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing to note is that there's a correlation between the use of the death penalty and the murder rate shortly after.


[20-Nov-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, when you say it's okay to punish criminals by killing them, people take it as okay to punish their enemies by killing them.


[20-Nov-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inherently, people operate as mimikking one another.


[20-Nov-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Nov-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, human-caused deaths drop as societies become more complex


[20-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they absolutely go into freefall around the 17th century for Europe


[20-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.fastcompany.com/3064502/this-history-of-human-violence-explains-how-society-shaped-killing

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https://www.fastcompany.com/3064502/this-history-of-human-violence-explains-how-society-shaped-killing
This History Of Human Violence Explains How Society Shaped Killing
Most parts of the world are safer than ever before. But a few are probably the most violent that human history has ever seen.
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_1280,f_auto,q_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3064502-poster-p-1-this-history-of-human-violence-explains-how-society-shaped-killing.jpg


[20-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in the UK and the Netherlands


[20-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
the more tribal humanity was at large, the more humans were killing each other


[20-Nov-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the question then is...why them?


[20-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like resources just magically became more abundant.


[20-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something changed in society.


[20-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guess which countries were the best at trading...


[20-Nov-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and basically invented capitalism.


[20-Nov-19 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
> States, on the other hand, experience lower violence than in other groups, for rather depressing reasons: “It is widely acknowledged that monopolization of the legitimate use of violence by the state significantly decreases violence in state societies.”


[20-Nov-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
A monopoly on violence makes its price rather high


[20-Nov-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the bigger the market, the less violence will be used, in economic terms.


[20-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The endgame would be a world government


[20-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who would the violence even target?


[20-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It could only be turned inward without some kind of alien threat.


[20-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you turn it inward, dissenters are easily hidden


[20-Nov-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even a very, very oppressive gov't would be hard-pressed to kill more than a few million a year.


[20-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, despotism truly brings peace.


[20-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, the murder rate *also* falls as society grows more complex


[20-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly everyone's under the same gov't


[20-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they feel like they are friends


[20-Nov-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't really matter if they aren't very similar


[20-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
just believing they are both citizens of <insert country> makes them not want to hurt each other as much


[20-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the more they interact, the fewer divisions they can maintain.


[20-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the murder rate also seems to fall as trade grows in complexity


[20-Nov-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
...because of more interaction


[20-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing to consider is the death of incest


[20-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only are you trading with people from afar


[20-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you're *marrying* them


[20-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you justify killing people who sell you your doritos and father your children?


[20-Nov-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think of society as like, when you take the tribes and you STAPLE THOSE FUKKS TOGETHER


[20-Nov-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you take away their sharp claws and focus them inward and outward


[20-Nov-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another interesting thing is Democracies don't fight Democracies


[20-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're more than happy to fight Dictatorships, who are more than happy to fight each other.


[20-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But when you suddenly giv power to the people, at least somewhat, they don't want direct conflict with a society that's organized similarly


[20-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you hav a combination of a monopoly on violence


[20-Nov-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and differing ideas of when to use it


[20-Nov-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
and @AaronMk, there's certainly overlap between different ethnicities who don't immediately go out of their way to try and kill each other, but that still doesn't change the fact that humans USED to have a very strong reason to be very distrustful of outsiders, and it's hard to deter literally millions of years of evolution that other groups want to harm you and your group (I can't remember if I stated it to begin with, but civilization itself could've been considered a massively progressive idea at the time; civilization only exists because of progress, after all)


[20-Nov-19 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
civilization was good for humanity as a whole, even though it brought a lot of other problems with it (famine, for example, wasn't really all that common until there were large enough groups of people that even a minor disruption to food production would cause starvation)


[20-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
and then the slavery and the oppression and whatnot


[20-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the Inuit did some amount of civilization just because winters were fukking brutal


[20-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways


[20-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
proper civilizations happen because of needing to pool and manage resources


[20-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
agriculture is a massive contributor to this


[20-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to tally up your food and store it


[20-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means not constantly burning everything to the ground


[20-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and having all sorts of buildings with like, accountants instead of warriors


[20-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-unanimously-passes-hong-kong-human-rights-democracy-bill-n1086401

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-unanimously-passes-hong-kong-human-rights-democracy-bill-n1086401
Senate unanimously passes Hong Kong 'Human Rights and Democracy' bill
The White House has yet to say whether Trump would sign or veto the measure.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_47/3109646/191119-hong-kong-protests-ew-725p_cbaa0e5286815deeabc8b07bcdd123d6.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[20-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
>uninimously passes


[20-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
>might veto


[20-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
granted, trump's razor states that the stupidest thing that can happen will


[20-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure "free hong kong" is one of the few bipartisan things that everyone agrees on in the US


[20-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
it would be seriously damaging to veto it


[20-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Before_Civilization

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War Before Civilization
War Before Civilization: the Myth of the Peaceful Savage (Oxford University Press, 1996) is a book by Lawrence H. Keeley, a professor of archaeology at the University of Illinois at Chicago who specializes in prehistoric Europe. The book deals with warfare conducted throughou...


[20-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
also, I found this


[20-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's a popular trend to say that civilization causes literally all of the problems, and that humans are naturally peaceful when society is removed


[20-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
||inb4 "we live in a society"||


[20-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50480242

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50480242
Crew find 25 stowaways in UK-bound cold container
Twenty-five people are found in a cooling container on a UK-bound ferry coming from the Netherlands.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/F61D/production/_109750036_058108469-2.jpg


[20-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wired.com/story/the-future-of-banking-is-youre-broke/

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https://www.wired.com/story/the-future-of-banking-is-youre-broke/
The Future of Banking Is … You're Broke
Our present financial ruin is being turned into a business model.
https://media.wired.com/photos/5dcc716bb8fdfa0008290a69/191:100/w_1280,c_limit/Ideas-crumpleddollar-130901213-2.jpg


[20-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, late stage capitalism.


[20-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where your phone exists to make sure you get your paychekk money a little early so you don't hav to worry as much about starving.


[20-Nov-19 06:50 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TDeplorabelle/status/1195944472913350657?s=20

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The Deplorabelle (@TDeplorabelle)
https://twitter.com/TDeplorabelle/status/1195944472913350657?s=20
@realDonaldTrump Not MAGA related, but I hope this makes you smile.  #MAGACHALLENGE https://t.co/zQjIZdBys6
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1195944393859125249/pu/img/YiCLKSCSMKWCBGKF.jpg
Twitter


[20-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
considering all the other headlines in 'Great WIRED Stories', I'd demand citation on every single one of the sentences they utter.


[20-Nov-19 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a gift, to be able to write an article looking so fake. Especially if it's legit (a huge if, really)


[20-Nov-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dns5CVAak4

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YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[20-Nov-19 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
> How the Media Missed the Point of Joker


[20-Nov-19 08:14 AM] Opponent#3498
```you could, actually, by pointing out that immigrants don't have power over who gets the job
it's the boss who determines which person gets the job```


[20-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Opponent#3498
you could argue, that it's not the boss who determines who gets the job, job market does. Individual employer wouldn't be expected to put his financial gains at risk out of the goodness of their heart. They don't play this game for publicity.


[20-Nov-19 08:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I know this sounds like excusing neolibs, but it's again, the difference between existing in a system and agreeing with it.


[20-Nov-19 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
'it's just how things are'.


[20-Nov-19 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
unless you have a meaninful way to change the rules, you have to operate within them.


[20-Nov-19 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
ok, for the sake of definitions, I meant "the same exact job"


[20-Nov-19 08:17 AM] Opponent#3498
I know I'd _hate_ a situation where immigrant wave caused a huge spike of violence and instability within my reach (job, neighborhood, etc). I don't much care, if they're to blame for every little tiny bit of issues. The system worked  before, and now it's broken.


[20-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Opponent#3498
(unlikely considering where I live now, of course :D)


[20-Nov-19 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
there was a study done on that actually, it turned out the reason why violence increased after immigrants came to an area was because of conservatives getting violent with the immigrants


[20-Nov-19 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie linked that a few months ago iirc


[20-Nov-19 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
that's probably correct. Still, I as an individual or a family would not much care about that. If it's widespread enough, you get easy voters for anti-immigration bills.


[20-Nov-19 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
it's hard to look at the big picture when your safety (survival?) is seemingly at stake.


[20-Nov-19 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://psmag.com/social-justice/research-tells-us-that-immigration-does-not-lead-to-higher-crime-rates

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Research Tells Us That Immigration Does Not Lead to Higher Crime Rates
Conservatives see Mollie Tibbetts' murder as proof of a need for more stringent immigration policies. Here's why they're wrong.
https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTU1MTU3MjY4NzQ3MjY1Njkz/gettyimages-945287254.jpg


[20-Nov-19 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
this wasn't the study correlating violence increases with conservatives, but just mentioning how more immigrants trends with less violence


[20-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, sure, it's easy to take a single example and blow it out of proportion to stoke fears, that's pretty natural for humanity


[20-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't make it moral or ethical to do so


[20-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
basically punishing thousands of people for the action of one


[20-Nov-19 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your survival isn't really at stake


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just perceptions creating phantom fears as a propaganda tool by the state to distract from real issues


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Opponent#3498
statistically, it isn't.


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If everyone thinks immigrants are about to kill them, then they won't demand things like better healthcare.


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's pretty irrelevant when it's your problem.


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit.


[20-Nov-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just you being stupid.


[20-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like refusing to ever go out in thunderstorms in an area with lightning rods everywhere


[20-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it's MY PROBLEM GAIZ


[20-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's your stupidity.


[20-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It being at a personal level doesn't make it not stupid.


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the while you being afraid to go out for the analogy benefits the people actually in control over you.


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Opponent#3498
job security issue isn't stupidity, it's pretty real.


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Complete with posters about how lightning rods aren't surefire and whatnot.


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Opponent#3498
well, unless you're _already_ pretty well-off and don't much care.


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
that just goes back to the fact that the boss is the one who determines who gets the job


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
not the immigrant


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immigrants tend to bring different job skills


[20-Nov-19 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hav more difficulty getting into the job market


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they also flokk to areas that hav lots of openings to begin with.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Opponent#3498
as for personal security, I lead with it being statistically correct. But 'ignore your fears because _they_ control you' is pretty weird.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since like, that's the whole point of immigrating to a specific area, to go somewhere you can actually liv.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fear is the number one way to control people.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to control someone, scare them.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the first thing you do.


[20-Nov-19 08:27 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, legal migrants that do not come in waves, they go to places they can live in.


[20-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, letting your fear control you makes you a puppet.


[20-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Letting yourself be frightened into doing stuff even when there is actual data saying it's the wrong thing to do is just plain foolish.


[20-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, literally sheeple.


[20-Nov-19 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow well at this rate, the _other_ logical step would be to suddenly hate the boss and stage a revolt.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
and still go hungry.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda odd.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
no you wouldn't lol


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bosses being scared of their workers is a good thing.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
immigrants come so I'll go murder my boss or smth


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means they might actually pay them better to appease them.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
stage a revolt, overthrow the boss, start running the company collectively, distribute the wealth equally


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
yah xD


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Letting bosses scare you while you don't scare them just means they retain absolute control.


[20-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
that literally happened in greece a couple years ago


[20-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Opponent#3498
Greece the endless money void that drags EU economy down as a whole?


[20-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Opponent#3498
although I guess it's too early to really say.


[20-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
some bosses were keeping all the money coming in, so the workers threw them out and started running the company themselves


[20-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thenation.com/article/when-bosses-threatened-to-close-the-plant-these-greek-workers-took-it-over/

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When Bosses Threatened to Close the Plant, These Greek Workers Too...
While Greece hails the “end” of its debt crisis, more than one in five remain unemployed.
https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/greece-viome-factory-meeting-img.jpg


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie unfortunately, the one who pays you already controls you.


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
unless the pay is so shit you can find another dead-end job like this trivially.


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
> The management’s parent company, Philkeram Johnson, had once been a profitable enterprise, employing 350 people and exporting ceramic tiles to 29 countries. Now, saddled with $5.3 million in debt, it was filing for bankruptcy, and Sideris and his 69 colleagues would all be flung into the job market in a country where more than one in five people were already without work. After more than a year of delaying paychecks, the company was ready to close up shop and walk away, despite owing more than $1.7 million in debts and compensation to its employees.


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point is to make the relationship mutual


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
then, _if_ you're competent enough, they'll hold onto you.


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
if one side fears the other, and the reverse is not true


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the relationship is one-sided


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
one-sided relationships always go poorly for the one on the bottom


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
> But rather than passively accept his fate, Sideris banded together with his co-workers to fight back. Forty employees decided to occupy the roughly 25,000-square-foot factory and continue their daily work, surviving mostly on unemployment checks. “The thought of leaving behind all of this and going into unemployment was never there,” he said. “We didn’t accept the debts of the bosses.”


[20-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If both sides in some way fear the other, then power is shared, and there is reason to work together.


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
you get the point


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the boss fears you, and you fear the boss, then it's not going to be an outright stompfest.


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Opponent#3498
if I fear my workers, I get rid of him, problem solved.


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
you can't


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's a retarded business model


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
you can't run a business with no workers


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Opponent#3498
there's plenty of immigrants to choose from now...


[20-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
yes, and that's the point


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll work for cheap and probably better than the lazy asshole preaching about socialism :D


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's the BOSSES doing that


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's not the IMMIGRANTS


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
they provide an easy problem solution.


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
this is the third time you've ran into that wall in your attempts to somehow find some way to not blame the bosses


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
because it's not a wall.


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not even a paper bag.


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I aknowledge that.


[20-Nov-19 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's the bosses doing it. It's the _smart_ thing to do.


[20-Nov-19 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
unless you _need_ this specific worker, you won't bother retaining them.


[20-Nov-19 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
if you do _need_ them that's different. But it's not common.


[20-Nov-19 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
so... https://imgur.com/gallery/5H9naKN

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https://imgur.com/gallery/5H9naKN
The Real Reason You Were Laid Off
https://i.imgur.com/s3QeAKdh.jpg


[20-Nov-19 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's the quote that started it all.


[20-Nov-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
it's the smart thing to do for short-term profits (aka neoliberal capitalism), yes


[20-Nov-19 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
long-term, it's not a good thing at all


[20-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
business is predecated on making money. Not in 100 years, in preferably several. No private venture would ever hurt themselves for 'long term gains maybe'


[20-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
THAT is a retarded business model.


[20-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
like in norway for example, it's practically impossible to get fired for no reason, workers are constantly retrained and shifted to other parts of the business if their job is made redundant


[20-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm sure there are ways to get rid of someone if you don't like them.


[20-Nov-19 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
and the worker's unions have absolute power in the relationship between workers and bosses


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unions are like the people in a democracy


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
which is why norwegian workers have the highest trust in companies in the west


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
because they literally can't be fucked over


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the many gain power over the ruling power


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
creating a balance of power between the two


[20-Nov-19 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that the ruling do not simply stomp around


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah... except it's less 'many' and more 'ruling class of many' and you just reinvented ruling classes again :/


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
there's always some way a company can repurpose a worker and put them elsewhere in the company


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you involve the vast majority of workers, it can't be some special elite


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
an elite group by definition must be exclusionary


[20-Nov-19 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And towards the top


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
if you involve the vast majority of workers, you'll find the need to build a command structure out of them. The top tier will be the ones making decisions.


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav 70% of the workers


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
you will hav the lesser workers, on the lower rungs of the social ladder, at least somewhat represented


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes the command structure might hav the most power, but it can be flexible


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could hav a rotating council


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
this 'somewhat representation' doesn't work in democracy, why would it work for unions?


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it does work in democracy


[20-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
even workers not in the union of a company benefit from there being a union at the company


[20-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
does it? Well I'll take your word on it.


[20-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracy's entire point is that even a small minority group often has some power


[20-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even in the worst of Democracies, you get occasional uses of that power


[20-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without Democracy, that doesn't really happen


[20-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not perfect by any means, but it *does things*


[20-Nov-19 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually trying and having some mechanisms to move power to the bottom will always benefit that bottom at least somewhat versus just giving the fukk up and bowing down to Der Fuhrer


[20-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you're completely defeatist, it's worth a try unless it has significant costs to those in the bottom.


[20-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And considering what unions often get when they negotiate, and what people in democracies like the US often get when they shift their votes...


[20-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's remotely reasonable to be arguing that it's pointless


[20-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's fair.


[20-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, it should say something in and of itself that many of the most talked about problems in the modern day our when democracy *doesn't* deliver.


[20-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
One would expect that if it was an utter failure that instead we'd be talking about a different angle, like how to replace it.


[20-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the point of all this is that bending over for the boss man isn't really the best idea societally.


[20-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And bending over for the gov't when it says to fear immigrants because woooo the boss man will hire theeeeeem is also a bad idea.


[20-Nov-19 08:46 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[20-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The smart thing to do would ultimately be to vote out the fearmongers


[20-Nov-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you don't think an honest politcian remotely exists, getting at least one that's bound by law to what experts say will help the nation, while making it hard to bribe the experts, is probably a good move.


[20-Nov-19 08:48 AM] Opponent#3498
true. the last one sounds like a workable strategy.


[20-Nov-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hard part is always just making it hard to bribe the experts to begin with.


[20-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the Trump situation is such a big deal


[20-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He absolutely churned out shills to power his administration


[20-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they've been dropping like flies


[20-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now everything's on fire


[20-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if impeachment goes utterly nowhere, his political capital is screwed by this


[20-Nov-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
More to the point, the US judiciary is somewhat absurd in its ability to actually shut down political BS


[20-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS has made some bad rulings, but they throw a giant wrench into Trump trying to manipulate executive decisions


[20-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even with two of them put in place by him


[20-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somewhere in all this, there is a core of a system that could one day be fleshed out into a government that doesn't regularly lie to its people and fukk over the nation in the pursuit of its own power.


[20-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, yes, we've been past that.


[20-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like a highly-independent judiciary given full review power over one party's decisions while voted in by yet another party, both of which are themselves voted in by the people, is at least itself a good idea.


[20-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as those "parties" themselves, they're broken


[20-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
(President and Senate)


[20-Nov-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The core may be the two-step


[20-Nov-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Step 1 of people voting in representatives


[20-Nov-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Step 2 of representatives voting in deciders


[20-Nov-19 08:55 AM] Opponent#3498
rebuild the system from the ground up, make the experts hard to bribe, make fair laws, tax the rich, make everyone not above the law, etc etc, and do everything FIRST.


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada btw changed how its legislature worked recently


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
look, I don't much care about the intricacies of US political system.


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike the US, its Senate isn't directly elected


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
that's really not the point.


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're appointed


[20-Nov-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau made the Senate mostly require non-partison appointments


[20-Nov-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As an apparent result of this, the Canadian Senate is actually improving legislation again


[20-Nov-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
making common-sense amendments to laws


[20-Nov-19 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
whereas previously it was dysfunctional


[20-Nov-19 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like appointed non-partisan ultimate deciders help a Democracy work.


[20-Nov-19 08:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd have to spend huge amounts of effort to dig up reliable info on this topic, so we'll postpone _this_ discussion to some other time


[20-Nov-19 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/army-releases-statement-on-officer-who-testified-in-trump-impeachment-inquiry-hearing/

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[20-Nov-19 09:44 AM] Opponent#3498
I was re-reading your earlier stuff Nebbie, on how prehistoric tribes had 40% murder rates or smth


[20-Nov-19 09:45 AM] Opponent#3498
wonder how that works, in a situation where losing a single hunter or worker can be immediately lethal to the group.


[20-Nov-19 09:45 AM] Opponent#3498
not in long distant future as the society devolves or something. This winter.


[20-Nov-19 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
also, being under the same flag means nothing. There is no magical 'oh, today we're under this government now, we better not kill each other!' word, or happenstance or whatever.


[20-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
over time, decades maybe, people get used to each other, over blood and tears and mutual resentment, when _forced_ to cooperate or perish.


[20-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's not about a single flag. We, that is, Ukraine and Russia, were told by our governments we're more or less the same people.


[20-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
now the governments tell us we're mortal enemies.


[20-Nov-19 09:49 AM] Opponent#3498
some people bought it, sure. Single digit percentage of those affected.


[20-Nov-19 09:49 AM] Opponent#3498
none that I've ever interacted with personally.


[20-Nov-19 09:49 AM] Opponent#3498
absolute majority of those who did went like 'oh, I've always hated them, now I know I was right!'. We get that a lot in pro-war right-wing 'national values' circles.


[20-Nov-19 09:51 AM] Opponent#3498
also on tribes. You raid an enemy tribe and scatter them. Suppose it's cheap enough in manpower and supplies that it's worth it (not at all a guarantee)


[20-Nov-19 09:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so what's next? Who you gonna raid after, if your economic model relies on the source of income you just destroyed?


[20-Nov-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
at best, it's supplemental luxury stuff. Oh, we've grown large enough that we have a surplus of men and materiel. We need to keep strong and make people respect us. And also they have that nice shiny shit the elder would rrrrrreally like to get their wrinkly old hands onto (although even this is a tetriary concern when your survival is on the line with every major decision)


[20-Nov-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
at worst, it's simple lunacy that leads to extinction and thus is defeted by natural selection.


[20-Nov-19 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
I think you missed this https://www.fastcompany.com/3064502/this-history-of-human-violence-explains-how-society-shaped-killing

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This History Of Human Violence Explains How Society Shaped Killing
Most parts of the world are safer than ever before. But a few are probably the most violent that human history has ever seen.
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_1280,f_auto,q_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3064502-poster-p-1-this-history-of-human-violence-explains-how-society-shaped-killing.jpg


[20-Nov-19 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
> States, on the other hand, experience lower violence than in other groups, for rather depressing reasons: “It is widely acknowledged that monopolization of the legitimate use of violence by the state significantly decreases violence in state societies.”


[20-Nov-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://ourworldindata.org/ethnographic-and-archaeological-evidence-on-violent-deaths

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Ethnographic and Archaeological Evidence on Violent Deaths
Violence has been a persistent feature of human societies. But how does violence today compare to the past? Are we more or less violent than our ancestors? See long-term global data on the evidence and prevalence of human violence.
https://ourworldindata.org/app/uploads/2013/08/Share-of-Deaths_Archaeological-and-Ethnographic-Evidence-on-Violence-768x538.png


[20-Nov-19 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
> The levels of violence in prehistoric times (archeological evidence) and in non-state societies (ethnographic evidence) was much higher than in modern state societies and in the world today. This is what the data tells us, and I have visualized this evidence in a series of barcharts.


[20-Nov-19 10:01 AM] Opponent#3498
well, time to dig into the sources to disprove it.


[20-Nov-19 10:01 AM] Opponent#3498
things that don't make sense logically and economically are usually false. Let's see.


[20-Nov-19 10:03 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, more of a monumental task than I anticipated, 4 tiers of citations at least.


[20-Nov-19 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
all of this is modern-ish times. Some encompassing a very tiny span of years, like


[20-Nov-19 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
`Manga 1949-1956 (New Guinea)`


[20-Nov-19 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
or


[20-Nov-19 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
`Dugum Dani 1961 `


[20-Nov-19 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
in very modern times, too.


[20-Nov-19 10:09 AM] Opponent#3498
well, reasonably modern, there's a lot of 18th century, which isn't really 'it' but still, era of colonialism.


[20-Nov-19 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You assume that raiding an enemy destroys them. Most of the time it does not.


[20-Nov-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one thing humans are better at than murdering each other is surviving in some fashion as a group.


[20-Nov-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you raid a rival tribe, you *hav to* kill the men first to win.


[20-Nov-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This buys time for women and children to flee.


[20-Nov-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they scatter in all directions, you can get some of them, but it's logistically difficult to get them all.


[20-Nov-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The survivors then rebuild, and raid you bakk, shattering your tribe.


[20-Nov-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over and over and over it goes.


[20-Nov-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It never burns itself out.


[20-Nov-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way that can end is for one tribe to get so, so big, that it's impossible to shatter them truly.


[20-Nov-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what agriculture does, it raises the sizes.


[20-Nov-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you don't raid rival tribes **to steal their resources**, that's retarded


[20-Nov-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The resources you get in a raid will be relatively pointless a month out


[20-Nov-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real purpose of a raid is to prevent them from raiding you.


[20-Nov-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to remove their ability to collect nearby resources you might need.


[20-Nov-19 10:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also it's good honest fun


[20-Nov-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no "economic model" at play either.


[20-Nov-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally in tribal warfare, it's just a big mess of kill everyone around you as fast as possible whenever possible.


[20-Nov-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a system like that you don't really get luxuries like stable currencies


[20-Nov-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need the sedentary capability of agriculture to stand a chance at actually developing and weathering assaults from rivals to get a whole lot extra going.


[20-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And after that, things shift so rapidly that evolution doesn't hav *time* to really deal with it.


[20-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evolution takes millennia


[20-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're only 12 of those into large scale agriculture


[20-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Small tribal groups are still the majority of modern human existence


[20-Nov-19 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And fundamentally, in a small tribal group, it *does* pay to shatter rivals.


[20-Nov-19 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
well if you believe it to be true, it must be true, I guess.


[20-Nov-19 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
works well for the proponent of rule of law as the ultimate representation of fairness and progress.


[20-Nov-19 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
```The real purpose of a raid is to prevent them from raiding you.```


[20-Nov-19 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[20-Nov-19 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that tribalism would evolve itself out relies on the idea of shattering other tribes being not worth it, that it would be a detriment.


[20-Nov-19 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
no comment.


[20-Nov-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evolution is fundamentally selfish, at multiple levels


[20-Nov-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
it prefers yourself above others, your family above others, on and on to the species level.


[20-Nov-19 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Expecting tribes to all work together for some reason is silly


[20-Nov-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evolution by its very nature would push an ethnic group to oppose others


[20-Nov-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even a family to oppose others


[20-Nov-19 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tribal warfare is all about genes.


[20-Nov-19 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
whatever you say.


[20-Nov-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav an actual argument here


[20-Nov-19 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Neither do you.


[20-Nov-19 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just say a bunch of doubt that makes no sense.


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
My argument is that there is clearly in humans a tendency to want to group up with other similar humans


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
clearly.


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that this is moldable by society


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I wish we had this talk earlier.


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
many things about your arguments from before make much more sense now.


[20-Nov-19 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are you implying?


[20-Nov-19 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
that you're severely biased on par with your hated die-hard republicans, and are building any argument on any topic you come across around that.


[20-Nov-19 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I knew you were biased and zealous. I didn't understand the core of it. Now I do.


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, classic, instead of actually debating my points


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're just going to assume that I'm full of shit because you disagree


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that I, as a well, am poisoned.


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10 fukk off.


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
this really isn't any different than most nights


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a deliberately uneven playing field.


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
all you seem to do in this channel is listen to arguments and evidence


[20-Nov-19 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
the study Crow linked took him 5 minutes to google.


[20-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then doubt them without any substance


[20-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
but it implies to having been built upon combined hundreds of man-hours of effort.


[20-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it would require lesser, but still quite significant effort to try and counter it.


[20-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
you say 'shtuff' as gospel, and it takes you no effort. I should put in time and effort to refute you.


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing tho is all you seem to do is refute


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
the only way to win here, is to not play.


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without any actual solid reasoning to your refutation


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
otherwise you lose by default, regardless of outcome, simply by attrition


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I lose anyway.


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think evolution is not generally selfish?


[20-Nov-19 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If so, why?


[20-Nov-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think that tribal societies all band together and ally readily for trade reasons?


[20-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think about this in regards to the stories in the Old Testament?


[20-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moses sure as shit was not holding hands singing kumbayah with the Midianites


[20-Nov-19 10:30 AM] Opponent#3498
readily? Heavens no. I'd imagine you have the same 'pride' and economic considerations you have with big states. Although, the nature of small scale war is different. There you defeat an army, you win. In modern conflicts, you have to defeat the economy instead, which makes war much less useful of a tool.


[20-Nov-19 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
evolution. Biological evolution isn't relevant to humans simply because of the timescale typically involved in that. We change, but it's forced, outside of and much faster than 'normal' biosphere would behave.


[20-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That...was literally what I was saying on why we still seem to hav tribal behavior built-in


[20-Nov-19 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
We spent hundreds of millennia as rivaling tribes and now hav spent, for *some* lineages, 12 with anything resembling large societies


[20-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
For some lineages, it's been less than a century of agricultural society.


[20-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know if it is. Maybe? The point isn't whether it's there or not. The point is whether it's relevant or not. Or was relevant at any point where you had to conciously manage... well, anything, really.


[20-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Crow#5457
it's relevant because people claim that humans were somehow more peaceful before civilization


[20-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd say no, it's not. The decision to maybe try and cooperate with a foreign group comes down to so much more than just tribal mentality as to be basicly detached from it.


[20-Nov-19 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anthropology says humans in tribes are violent as shit.


[20-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreso towards each other than outsiders, usually, in fact.


[20-Nov-19 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is very interesting.


[20-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the logical explanation is that you don't want to *open* with hostile relations, a tribe far enuff away that it doesn't threaten your resources could be used in pincer movements as an ally against your neighbors)


[20-Nov-19 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho the simple explanation is just repeated prisoner's dilemma etc.


[20-Nov-19 10:40 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow they weren't more peaceful. I've skimmed through the book on California Indians from this list, they had a very pragmatic attitude to life, with a human, any human, being a resource and having a specific price tag. Although, this is the 'modern-ish' tribals, in close contact with 'borderline libertarian' Americans, but this stands to reason.


[20-Nov-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[20-Nov-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
European diseases wiped out whole tribes


[20-Nov-19 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by the 1920s no natives were left practicing their traditions.


[20-Nov-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason we even hav good knowledge of how they made arrows and such is ONE GUY who survived in the woods a while


[20-Nov-19 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually after a wildfire he just surrendered to the white man etc.


[20-Nov-19 10:43 AM] Crow#5457
rather, the original topic was that prehistoric tribes were "peaceful enough" to conduct large scale trade with other tribes


[20-Nov-19 10:44 AM] Crow#5457
of which there is not very much evidence, and plenty of evidence for the contrary


[20-Nov-19 10:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well this chart and the books it takes from seems to almost exclusively mention 19-20th century tribes. For obvious reasons, this data is available and abundant.


[20-Nov-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Native Americans had *long* trade networks, but the evidence doesn't really point to *wide* ones.


[20-Nov-19 10:44 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's not really pro or con the original argument


[20-Nov-19 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, you'd find small items like beads from hundreds of miles away


[20-Nov-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really shove 100 pounds of meat very far without refrigeration and such, and there's not much reason to do it to begin with.


[20-Nov-19 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially without horses.


[20-Nov-19 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And once they did get horses, those primarily were used for warfare, not trade.


[20-Nov-19 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'd liv in a very different world if donkeys and horses were planted in Kansas 10,000 years ago.


[20-Nov-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
(there'd be one hell of a Mississippi River civilization)


[20-Nov-19 10:48 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I remember this discussion and more or less agree with the idea.


[20-Nov-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[20-Nov-19 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Native Americans had *some* agriculture


[20-Nov-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
corn wasn't unknown up north


[20-Nov-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could most certainly feed a large agricultural society, it's just that the animals and terrain weren't great to develop one permanently


[20-Nov-19 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And AFAIK, the tribes that grew corn were the more peaceful ones.


[20-Nov-19 10:51 AM] Opponent#3498
stands to reason, they depended on holding their own land, instead of shifting with grazing fields or animal packs.


[20-Nov-19 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
it certainly helped that much of the area within the US borders combined unfathomable amounts of resources with incredibly friendly terrain


[20-Nov-19 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
on top of the fact that tribal societies don't really experience famine because they can just move to where ever there is more food


[20-Nov-19 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why the native americans were so welcoming to the first groups of colonists


[20-Nov-19 11:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This  is  true that natives were not so peaceful and hunted neighbouring tribe's people for fun?


[20-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Opponent#3498
I imagine it would happen on occasion, if they were much stronger than the opposition and didn't really need them for anything, but in general would be pretty counterproductive and not common.


[20-Nov-19 11:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it's safe bet to say that any interaction imaginable happened at one time or another. The question is, whether overall picture favoured conflict or cooperation, and I consider it being the latter.


[20-Nov-19 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion?fbclid=IwAR1PtMCZyQ5FgyvYPhcyaWAFqYo6ziXmYkHHtCjtUj-pZ2wnjbsRozPASfI

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Ohio House passes bill allowing student answers to be scientifical...
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WKRC) - Ohio lawmakers are weighing in on how public schools can teach things like evolution. The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act. " Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as...
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[20-Nov-19 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WKRC) - Ohio lawmakers are weighing in on how public schools can teach things like evolution.

The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act." Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as the reasoning is because of their religious beliefs.

Instead, students are graded on substance and relevance.

Every Republican in the House supported the bill. It now moves to the Republican-controlled Senate.


[20-Nov-19 01:11 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
lol


[20-Nov-19 01:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50486534

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Tories reject criticism in debate 'fact-check' row
The party says it is entitled to rebut "nonsense" amid calls for action over rebranded Twitter account.
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[20-Nov-19 01:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"the party's press account changed its name and its appearance, telling people it was "fact checking Labour from CCHQ


[20-Nov-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nearly-400-children-rescued-348-adults-arrested-canadian-child-pornography-flna2D11599561

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[20-Nov-19 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
countering overt slavery, at least, is something. More useful than war on drugs, for example.


[20-Nov-19 03:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Rudy's gonna get through under the bus and get wrapped in the drive shaft


[20-Nov-19 03:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0veLrwd9CK4

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[20-Nov-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikki-haley-used-system-for-unclassified-material-to-send-confidential-information

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Nikki Haley Used System for Unclassified Material to Send ‘Confi...
Newly released emails suggest that in 2017 the then-ambassador lost her password for classified communication, and so she used a different system.
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[20-Nov-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
BUT HER EMAILS


[20-Nov-19 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
LOCK HER UP LOCK HER UP


[20-Nov-19 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh I found her book's summary a lot more entertaining than the emails thing


[20-Nov-19 04:29 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump was just pretending to be a madman!


[20-Nov-19 04:29 PM] Opponent#3498
like Russia pretending it was all according to plan, no matter what happens


[20-Nov-19 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
repeat that often enough and some people might actually believe you


[20-Nov-19 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I've never believed Russia had a plan, they're mostly just pushing the limits and trying to find out what they can get away with


[20-Nov-19 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that, and they're experts at exploiting tactical opportunities.


[20-Nov-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
the whole "swing the election in favor of the GOP in 2016" thing was an opportunistic grab at abusing political and corporate power structures in a foreign country


[20-Nov-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
and it worked, they were able to play to their target audience's fears


[20-Nov-19 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/trump-ordered-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-through-giuliani-key-witness-sondland-testifies.html

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Trump ordered Ukraine 'quid pro quo' through Giuliani, key witness...
"Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President," Sondland says.
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[20-Nov-19 04:39 PM] Opponent#3498
I seriously doubt they had a decisive impact on 2016, but not for the lack of trying. And now they get to reap the benefits. Russia's public LOVED 'Putin Mastermind' narrative.


[20-Nov-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
There is more than one way you can interfere in an election and Russia interfered in many ways


[20-Nov-19 04:39 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an echo of Soviet mentality. Your life may suck now, but it's all gonna be better in the end. It's all part of the plan, and the forces around us fear us and strive to bring us down


[20-Nov-19 04:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not because your ruling elite treats the country like a chinese sweatshop. It's because 'those evil gay liberal Americans'


[20-Nov-19 04:41 PM] byte[]#2610
There was the compromise of the DNC early on, there were the Russian bots and Russian-funded ads pervasive on Facebook and Twitter, there was Cambridge Analytica, smear campaigns and Russian-hosted American "news" (fake news websites)


[20-Nov-19 04:41 PM] byte[]#2610
And then of course they actually attacked the precinct voting machines, because our election officials are fucking gay


[20-Nov-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think they altered the vote count through the voting machines but it is well established that they attacked them


[20-Nov-19 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
You don't need to fix an election to interfere in it


[20-Nov-19 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Russia absolutely interfered in our election process and likely swung the results for the GOP


[20-Nov-19 04:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, viewed at this angle, this makes sense.


[20-Nov-19 04:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna be fun seeing how the GOP lawyer and members attack their own guy


[20-Nov-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Furthermore, it's my belief that the interference campaign they carried out would have only worked with the GOP as the target


[20-Nov-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Your average suburban democrat doesn't share fake news about how the Trump family secretly watches babies being killed


[20-Nov-19 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
But that sort of thing happens pretty regularly with the republican base


[20-Nov-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Could Russia hack the voting machines in the next election and swing the election for the democrats? Maybe, but it would not be beneficial for them to do that the way it has been for them to keep Trump in power


[20-Nov-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Because Trump does everything Putin wants


[20-Nov-19 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
well democrats play in Putin's hands of their own free will, incessantly reminding the world about The Great Bear.


[20-Nov-19 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
proving his strength and bolstering his support


[20-Nov-19 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
I still think that at this point, regardless of which US party is currently the ruling one, they benefit from this, and the endless talking points it brings.


[20-Nov-19 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Democrats don't make political goals of moving out of the way in foreign wars to let Russia take over


[20-Nov-19 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump does


[20-Nov-19 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Talking about Russia is one thing, but the US is actually ceding wars to them


[20-Nov-19 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the 2016 elections in general were... weird. The choice between 'absolutely awful' and 'slightly less awful', apparently massive foreign meddling that went largely unanswered, the societal pendulum seemingly swinging back from 'first black president' back into red field.


[20-Nov-19 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
if it's entirely accidental it's one hell of an accident.


[20-Nov-19 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't believe in conspiracies, but conspiracies imply people have to be conspiring to achive a goal.


[20-Nov-19 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
it swung back red because of a state-level republican influence campaign (which was legal, but should not have been)


[20-Nov-19 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
there was the redistricting effort but also the redrawing of precinct maps and redistribution of election resources to "wealthier" areas


[20-Nov-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
instead, this seems like different groups playing by the same rules at the same time. Resulting in a universally beneficial outcome for politicians, and everyone else is still irrelevant.


[20-Nov-19 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
meaning that poor people / black people were left waiting in line to vote for hours, when in the precinct a 10 minute drive away only one person would use the machine every hour


[20-Nov-19 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
this would make a difference, yeah.


[20-Nov-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
that started in 2011/2012


[20-Nov-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
first results came in the 2014 midterms


[20-Nov-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
it worked, republicans won almost total control of state legislatures and governorships


[20-Nov-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
and democrats have had historically low turnout in local elections


[20-Nov-19 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
so it went kind of unnoticed


[20-Nov-19 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
that's how you get a giant swing back in 2016 to republicans after voters went for obama twice


[20-Nov-19 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[20-Nov-19 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
oh also around this time I believe SCOTUS overturned the voting rights act


[20-Nov-19 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
saying "welp boys we did it, racial discrimination is no more"


[20-Nov-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder

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[20-Nov-19 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
again, fucking _SCALIA_


[20-Nov-19 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
right from the pony's mouth:

> Some critics have said that the ruling has made it easier for state officials to make it harder for Black and other racio-ethnic minority voters to vote.[5] Research shows that preclearance led to increases in minority congressional representation and increases in minority turnout.[6][7] Five years after the ruling, nearly 1,000 polling places had been closed in the U.S., with many of the closed polling places in predominantly African-American counties. Research shows that the changing of voter locations and reduction in voting locations can reduce voter turnout.[5] There were also cuts to early voting, purges of voter rolls and imposition of strict voter ID laws.[8][9] Virtually all restrictions on voting subsequent to the ruling were by Republicans.[10]


[20-Nov-19 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
mm. Figures.


[20-Nov-19 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Sondland fucks Giuliani in real time


[20-Nov-19 06:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realkylemorris/status/1193296619652825088?s=21

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[20-Nov-19 06:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471247-sondland-to-testify-quid-pro-quo-in-ukraine-was-real-and-widely-known

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Sondland testifies quid pro quo in Ukraine was real and widely known
U.S.
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[20-Nov-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1197184057249062915

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[20-Nov-19 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Nov-19 07:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Syrian-air-defenses-intercept-missiles-over-Damascus-reports-608381

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23 killed as Israel strikes over 20 Iranian, Syrian regime targets
Defense Minister Naftali Bennett to Iran: You are no longer immune. Wherever you stretch your tentacles-we will hack them off.
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[20-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/20/americas/bolivia-unrest-intl-hnk/index.html

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Bolivia crisis: Death toll rises as security forces overwhelm prot...
Three people were killed when Bolivian security services attempted to clear a path for gas tanks to leave the Senkata gas plant near La Paz on Tuesday.
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[20-Nov-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/i-want-no-quid-pro-quo-photographers-capture-trumps-notes-pushing-back-on-impeachment/

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'I WANT NO QUID PRO QUO': Photographers Capture Trump's Notes
Photographers captured images of President Donald Trump's handwritten notes during his statement to the press following Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland's testimony, Wednesda
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[20-Nov-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[20-Nov-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
I saw just the image in another server and thought it was just photoshop


[20-Nov-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret. Everyone was informed via email on July 19, days before the Presidential call. As I communicated to the team, I told President Zelensky in advance that assurances to 'run a fully transparent investigation' and 'turn over every stone' were necessary in his call with President Trump."- Sondland


[20-Nov-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah he's done it before


[20-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471306-house-judiciary-committee-approves-landmark-marijuana-legalization-bill

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House Judiciary Committee approves landmark marijuana legalization...
The House Judiciary Committee passed a bill Wednesday that would effectively make marijuana legal.The Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement (MORE) Act of 2019 passed by a count of 24-10.
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[20-Nov-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for Mitch to say no?


[20-Nov-19 08:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-50490311
"I was assigned mammal at birth, but my orientation is fish. Don't mis-species me."

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Former officer challenges transphobia guidelines
Harry Miller takes legal action after police recorded alleged transphobic tweets as a hate incident.
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[20-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/09/06/broke-men-are-hurting-american-womens-marriage-prospects/

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Broke men are hurting American women’s marriage prospects
There’s a devastating shortage of men who have their act together, according to a new study that may not be so surprising to all the single ladies out there. Research now suggests that the re…
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[20-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ, this article is peak boomer


[20-Nov-19 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the marriage industry is arguably what keeps diamond prices so high iirc


[20-Nov-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
> Research now suggests that the reason for recent years’ decline in the marriage rate could have something to do with the lack of “economically attractive” male spouses who can bring home the bacon, according to the paper published Wednesday in the Journal of Family and Marriage.


[20-Nov-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
> “Most American women hope to marry, but current shortages of marriageable men — men with a stable job and a good income — make this increasingly difficult,” says lead author Daniel Lichter in a press release.


[20-Nov-19 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
neither do women have stable jobs lol


[20-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
> Lichter adds that unless your dream man is an Uber driver, the dearth of would-be grooms is prominent “in the current ‘gig economy’ of unstable, low-paying service jobs.”


[20-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
like I said, this is peak boomer


[20-Nov-19 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
> To investigate the man drought, researchers created profiles of potential husbands, based on real husbands as logged in American Community Survey data. They then compared these hypothetical spouses with actual unmarried men.
> 
> They found that a woman’s made-up hubby makes 58 percent more money than the current lineup of eligible bachelors.


[20-Nov-19 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
not only does it treat women like they're shallow gold-diggers, it says that men should feel terrible for not being able to hold down a steady job with a high enough income to support both themselves and a spouse


[20-Nov-19 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it feels like who wrote this is stuck in the 1950's


[20-Nov-19 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
the problem being that no companies want to have steady positions available with that high of an income


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
also that survey feels like it has a stupid premise


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
> And sure, there’s the whole “love” factor in a marriage. But, in the end, “it also is fundamentally an economic transaction,” says Lichter.


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
and then there's the last line in the article


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
like holy shit


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a "dream husband" or just "dream anything" is obviously an ideal and unrealistic construct


[20-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
the 15th century is calling, they want their definition of marriage back


[20-Nov-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"bro you posted cringe i'm not gonna allow my noble daughter to marry you and pass her estates to you as dowry"


[20-Nov-19 08:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I see only one solution to that. Castrate the rich. If money is what is needed to be a man the rich should be financially castrated and their testicals fed to the masses.

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[20-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
```not only does it treat women like they're shallow gold-diggers, it says that men should feel terrible for not being able to hold down a steady job with a high enough income to support both themselves and a spouse```


[20-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
plenty of women are just that though.


[20-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
marriage is economic alliance first.


[20-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
in the 1400's maybe


[20-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
it shouldn't be like that in modern times


[20-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
even though it sometimes is


[20-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
and that's a pretty sexist sentiment to have tbh


[20-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
over here, it's the norm. Acceptable one, if disappointing.


[20-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/471326-confederate-statue-in-north-carolina-taken-down-after-more-than

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A statue of a Confederate soldier that stood outside a historic courthouse near Raleigh, N.C. for more than a century was removed by local officials this week,
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[20-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good.


[20-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
as a general rule, you ARE only as good as your paycheck is. The exceptions exist and are many, but 
 they be exceptions nonetheless.


[20-Nov-19 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I've heard many a well-meaning advice, 'break up with his broke ass or make him shape up'


[20-Nov-19 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
hell, even myself, I don't consider myself to be financially stable enough to think about marriage despite being perfectly fine by myself, although it's more complicated than this.


[20-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
what does "shape up" mean when there's literally no jobs with higher pay


[20-Nov-19 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
'if he's smart, he'll figure something out. Remind him that he's getting older and older people aren't wanted for jobs.'


[20-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't mean anything when there's literally nothing else


[20-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much a direct quote from last time I heard something like this


[20-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Diamond prices are artificially high by intentionally keeping supply scarce.


[20-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well, tough cookie then. Look elsewhere.


[20-Nov-19 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
for a partner, not the job.


[20-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
because the demand for diamonds is still there


[20-Nov-19 08:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because the demand was *invented*


[20-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
diamonds are a shitty gem for rings anyway


[20-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Diamonds - the best marketing ploy of 20th century.


[20-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
you can get something that looks just as good but costs $60 instead of $600


[20-Nov-19 08:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Good luck convincing her


[20-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
is that like an eastern european thing or something? assuming every woman to be a gold-digger off the get-go is pretty sexist in the west (one thing to note is that women who discuss stuff like their partner not making enough money in public are most likely the vocal minority)


[20-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>I *need* a fur coat


[20-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know. I'd think it's a sign of relatively young wannabe-capitalist society.


[20-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe you've outgrown that as a nation.


[20-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is heavy shadow of USSR thing


[20-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To be honest, I also noticed this in formely disadvantaged countries


[20-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Designer italian shoes for $1m
>BMW with 3 cameras...


[20-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yep, that's not a phone.


[20-Nov-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
you mean the car? back-up cameras are legally required in the US


[20-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Something to do with poverty striken childhood and trying to compensate it and tell everyone you have reached success unreachable back then.


[20-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
and dash cams are pretty much required with how insane driving can be now


[20-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
or the parents pushing you to do the same.


[20-Nov-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471335-poll-trump-leads-top-democratic-opponents-in-wisconsin

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Poll: Trump leads top 2020 Democrats in Wisconsin
President Trump leads top 2020 Democratic White House hopefuls in theoretical matchups in Wisconsin, a poll released Wednesday found.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_101319as6_lead.jpg


[20-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The new poll surveyed 801 registered voters in Wisconsin between Nov. 13 and 17 and had a margin of error of 4.1 percentage points."


[20-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
it's within the margin of error


[20-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
that's neck and neck


[20-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not for Warren and Buttigieg


[20-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just Sanders and Biden


[20-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's odd because Pete is basically top tier in Iowa and NH


[20-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow It seems, i cannot find the article with his car detailed specs.


[20-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43umm8UgYM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43umm8UgYM
BMW X3: 3D Surround View (360 degree view cameras) :: [1001cars]
The new generation of the Surround View system (360 degree view cameras) in the BMW X3 (2018) can now show not only a Top View mode but also a 3D View mode, ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q43umm8UgYM/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
this thing?


[20-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's not really 3D surround view, it uses AI to simulate it


[20-Nov-19 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
> I'm eager to see Trump finally go on trial, but we must first figure out one thing -- will he be tried as an adult?


[20-Nov-19 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 his lawyers plead insanity


[20-Nov-19 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
that's be a pretty strong claim.


[20-Nov-19 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow It was a new 750i 2009 with these extras:

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[20-Nov-19 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ni8g1a7cetz31.jpg

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[20-Nov-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/15/medicare-for-all-hospital-tenet/

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For-Profit Hospital Industry Is Leading Fight Against Medicare for All
Tenet Healthcare, the nation’s third-largest investor-owned operator of hospitals, has donated nearly $630,000 to the Partnership for America’s Health Care Future.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2019/10/illustration-hospital-1-1571089924.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[20-Nov-19 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
reminder


[20-Nov-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[20-Nov-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JimSwiftDC/status/1197188081906061318

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Jim Swift (@JimSwiftDC)
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@aravosis https://t.co/hYY8s5n6gH
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Twitter


[20-Nov-19 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
womp womp


[20-Nov-19 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ee4d60b9-f9ee-4b41-9aae-cfc4e2d4fc10.jpg

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[20-Nov-19 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh Donald


[20-Nov-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
>when you really want that blowjob from Зеленский but you're obese and your cock isn't even long enough to stick out of your fat rolls


[20-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/471341-eric-trump-promotes-trump-wine-as-sondland-testifies-perfect

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Eric Trump promotes Trump wine as Sondland testifies: 'Perfect day...
Eric Trump joked on Twitter Wednesday that it was the “perfect day” for a bottle of wine from the Trump organization’s winery during the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumperic_101019getty.jpg


[20-Nov-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wine is apparently very generic tasting according to people


[20-Nov-19 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/trump-impeachment-bribery-quid-pro-quo-extortion.html

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Trump Defenders Confused by Use of Synonyms
If you use different words to describe improper conduct, the defendant must go free. Those are the rules.
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[20-Nov-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...?


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
quid pro quo, extortion, bribery, etc


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
the defense is that because synonyms are being used, the goalposts are being moved


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
:pudding:


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the dumbest fucking defense


[20-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well second dumbest


[20-Nov-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first dumbest was that since trump just crimes all over the placewe should jsut accept it and move on


[20-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bribery and qpq mean the same thing


[20-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
SYN.O.NYMS


[20-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've talked to people just not impressed by this whole thing though


[20-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's just lawyers circlejerking"


[20-Nov-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next big trump hashtag will be that the democrats are baking a fresh tin of #synonymrolls and that it proves he #nocollusioned in his pants


[20-Nov-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/784bc758cac84efebfdc4548c9e2a9ce

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Trump to meet on teen vaping as plans for flavor ban fade
WASHINGTON (AP) — White House officials say President Donald Trump will meet with medical experts, health advocates and industry representatives on the problem of underage vaping later this...
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[20-Nov-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We will handle this by giving them Trump 2020 KAGA vape pens!"

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[20-Nov-19 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e7a121e4490e4233bc54b6f9cc6db47a

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Attorney: Navy retaliating against SEAL helped by Trump
SAN DIEGO (AP) — An attorney for a Navy SEAL convicted of posing with a dead Islamic State militant contended Wednesday that Navy leaders are trying to remove him from the elite force in...
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[20-Nov-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
good for the navy


[20-Nov-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
war criminals shouldn't be allowed in the military


[20-Nov-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[20-Nov-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope similar fates await the other 2 trump pardoned


[20-Nov-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
what's his war crime?


[20-Nov-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he stabbed a PoW to death ands took a selfie with their corpse, and he shot at civilians


[20-Nov-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the civilians werent on a battlefield, they were ordinary civilians midning their own business in a normal ass city


[20-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[20-Nov-19 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the other war criminals killed 5 people, and i;m unsure of the third


[20-Nov-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right the third charged in and killed a suspected bomb maker with no evidence to back up that he was a bomb maker


[20-Nov-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a suspected bomb maker that likely was to be arrested and interrogated instead of killed


[20-Nov-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically all 3 of these war criminals are trigger happy psychopaths


[20-Nov-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the exact type of people that are detriments to an armed force tring to keep peace and security instead of being at constant war


[20-Nov-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not they who decide on the constant war anyway


[20-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
but having good publicity for military is overall beneficial for the nation.


[20-Nov-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, but they likely try to keep the conflict to a minimum if thye can help it, and some asshat trying to pock off random civilians for fun does not at all help that.


[20-Nov-19 10:45 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sev3617 <https://www.google.com/amp/s/business.financialpost.com/technology/artificial-intelligence-is-at-the-heart-of-online-toxicity-grand-committee-hears/amp> 
> But both Facebook and Google representatives said artificial intelligence could be used as a solution to better manage the social networks that are too large to be monitored by humans.


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
in other words executives think AI solves thier poor monitoring


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
google/youtube algorithms are pure shit


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it also saves money.


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
What


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
that's what I'm curious if they regret saying that


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
Heart of online toxicity


[20-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
you can make some interns half-ass a neural network learning, and save a ton on personnel.


[20-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
regret? Why would they regret saying it?


[20-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
it works for them.


[20-Nov-19 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it jsut kills the userbase they;re trying to maintain but google can compensate with cona obrian


[20-Nov-19 10:52 PM] Opponent#3498
it poisons the well but considering how 'well' youtube pays people, if they haven't left already, they won't leave, AI or not


[20-Nov-19 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well soon that's about to change as themajority of the channels lose 90% of their income,ability to be reccomended, and ability to be searched


[20-Nov-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all because they are potentially attractive to children, and over the last few years google couldnt help themselves in brekaign the law to collect child data


[20-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably just a political play. To let people build political capital on repealing it, themselves to pretend to 'attentively listen to community', as well as get themselves additional relatively clean way to suppress the undesirables.


[20-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
like most of these things, looks like a universal win for everyone but people. And it works for them.


[20-Nov-19 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is, youtube still threw it;s users under a bus to save 2 days worth of cash


[20-Nov-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
users don't pay. Advertisers do.


[20-Nov-19 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
and YT still holds the majority of the market


[20-Nov-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
users will pay a fine of atleast 11k per video if the FTC finds channels that are potentially attractive to children, not being labeled as such


[20-Nov-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and being labeled as such has the unfortunate side effect of murdering exposure and ad revenue


[20-Nov-19 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ftc has put the responsibility on both youtube;s shoulders and the shoulders of the users


[20-Nov-19 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a healthy practice in general. When you hear the word 'children', in any context at all, start listening twice as attentive  because you're being manipulated


[20-Nov-19 11:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte Searching middle class gave me this, so for all they know 42k is nothing   https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/tax-cuts-republicans-middle-class-trump-701094%3famp=1

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House Republicans claim an annual salary of $450,000 is middle class
A tax reform highlight sheet circulated by House Republicans referred to taxpayers earning $450,000 a year as "low- and middle-income."
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[20-Nov-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
today's the Transgender Day of Remembrance


[20-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they do


[20-Nov-19 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
in honour of victims of transphobic violence


[20-Nov-19 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just for note


[20-Nov-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've probably never interacted witha middle class person in their life


[20-Nov-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except from far away on a stage


[20-Nov-19 11:09 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen some credible argument that middle class, defined as a better-payed worker class, isn't actuallly a 'thing' and is just a propaganda tool. Given that the officials seem to be at a loss how to define it too, well xD


[20-Nov-19 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there used to be a middle class but stagnant wages, a declining economy, and loss of jobs has lead to a major decline in such things


[20-Nov-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
There are only two classes. People who must sell their labor, and people who buy that labor.


[20-Nov-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
And you have the conditions of such there-in.


[20-Nov-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
There isn't any meaningful distinction to make a middle class besides those who must sell, and those who can buy.


[20-Nov-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
Uhhh


[20-Nov-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
What about intelegentsia


[20-Nov-19 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
Lumpen prols and oettite bourgeouse


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If not getting up in the morning has negative consequences on your life, you're poor


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lumpen are still in the prole department, and Petites are still bougie. Hence: "the conditions of such there-in."


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway sorry I actually can't paryicipate in debate, I am on data rn


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lumpen?


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Professional workers


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or something like that.


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
No


[20-Nov-19 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
No no


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
o nvm


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] ononim#8141
Opposite even


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
I just double-checked my terminology


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
amateur non workers?


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Undeveloped, unorganized workers


[20-Nov-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[20-Nov-19 11:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Lumpenproletariat (/ˌlʌmpənproʊlɪˈtɛəriət/) is a term used primarily by Marxist theorists to describe the underclass devoid of class consciousness. Coined by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in the 1840s, they used it to refer to the unthinking lower strata of society exploited by reactionary and counter-revolutionary forces, particularly in the context of the revolutions of 1848. They dismissed its revolutionary potential and contrasted it with the proletariat. Among other groups criminals, vagabonds, and sex workers are usually included in this category.


[20-Nov-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m in the catagory of "hasnt had a job in 4 years, and college isnt looking too promising"


[20-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Opponent#3498
so pretty much those unwilling to fall under the flag


[20-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
less economy, more permanent revolution


[20-Nov-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/anonymous-white-house-book-trump-briefings-2019-11

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The anonymous White House official says in their new book that Tru...
At one point, officials were told to cut their briefings down to just three points — only to be told later to cut it down to one key point.
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[20-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
better yet, just shut up and go back to the corner you crawled out of 😂


[20-Nov-19 11:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Depends on the flag, because they will default into one. Reactionary or counter-revolutionary indicating they'll just support whatever conservative power was in place before. In the west this would be people like your Mafiaoso


[20-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminder that this isn't a shop,
<https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/h_ef1ea69416e83b474dd18f98c53649dc>

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[20-Nov-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/879671/trump-evidently-fully-aware-talking-open-line-during-sensitive-call-that-russia-likely-listened

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Trump was evidently fully aware he was talking on an open line dur...
Wednesday's hearing for Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, largely revolved around a key July 26 phone call with President Trump. The call is important for House impeachment investigators because it seemingly links Trump directly to attempts to pressu...
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[20-Nov-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/471367-impeachment-viewership-drops-for-day-3-of-hearings-as-114m-tune-in

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Impeachment viewership drops for Day 3 of hearings as 11.4M tune in
The third day of public impeachment hearings was watched by about 12 million viewers on Tuesday, a fall from the previous two days of testimony, according to Nielsen Media Research.  The viewership number for
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[20-Nov-19 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
such are the problems of an impatient, channel-switching society


[20-Nov-19 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i guess


[20-Nov-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mr. Sondland, let's be clear: no one on this planet—not Donald Trump, Rudy Guiliani, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo—no one told you aid was tied to political investigations, is that correct."
Gordon Sondland: "That's correct."
“Was there a 'quid pro quo?’” Sondland asked. “With regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”


[20-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump never told Sondland "Ambassador Sondland, I am bribing the Ukrainian president" and therefore he didn't.


[20-Nov-19 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d be tuning in but school is a thing


[20-Nov-19 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What are synonyms, Alex


[21-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471377-trump-says-sondland-testimony-was-fantastic

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Trump says Sondland testimony was 'fantastic'
President Trump declared victory following U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland’s public testimony Wednesday, saying it was “fantastic” and calling House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry a “hoax.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump2_111919getty.jpg


[21-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he directly said there was a qpq


[21-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying it's good because of his statements to Sondland where he said he wanted nothing


[21-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that was just him saying it, everyone knew it was going on...


[21-Nov-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://i.redd.it/94zc5kl86xz31.png

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[21-Nov-19 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this has not aged well


[21-Nov-19 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
this presidency perpetually ages like milk


[21-Nov-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
remember the wall


[21-Nov-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[21-Nov-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that was a thing


[21-Nov-19 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
but nobody's talking about it anymore, not even Trump it seems


[21-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471391-defense-official-testifies-ukraine-was-aware-of-issues-with-aid-in-july#

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Defense official testifies Ukraine was aware of issues with aid in...
A Department of Defense official testified on Wednesday that Ukraine was aware of potential issues with U.S. security assistance in July, earlier than previously known.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cooperlaura_112019gn_lead.jpg


[21-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, it's like, how far can this be pushed bakk?


[21-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Will we find out Trump was planning in APRIL to extort Ukraine?


[21-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No White House visit until you announce you're investigating Biden


[21-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Ukraine indicted the head of Burisma so


[21-Nov-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
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[21-Nov-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
yikes


[21-Nov-19 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
he said the gamer word


[21-Nov-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-debate/2019/11/20/eb26c980-0bde-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html


[21-Nov-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(dem debate)


[21-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Wait, what? X3


[21-Nov-19 03:09 AM] Maulkin12#8001
The joker character, or the actor?


[21-Nov-19 03:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I want to believe both :twismug:


[21-Nov-19 03:11 AM] Maulkin12#8001
eww


[21-Nov-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/20/pentagon-confirms-35-million-in-aid-still-being-withheld-from-ukraine-despite-impeachment-inquiry/

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$35M in military aid still being withheld from Ukraine: Pentagon
The White House's unusual decision to freeze millions in aid to Ukraine in July is central to the impeachment probe
https://media.salon.com/2019/11/donald-trump-11201.jpg


[21-Nov-19 03:14 AM] Maulkin12#8001
k?


[21-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Why should be be involved with Ukraine, tho?


[21-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not relevant


[21-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
what is relevant is that they're breaking the law


[21-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
at the president's order


[21-Nov-19 03:15 AM] Maulkin12#8001
how?


[21-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The executive is forced to give foreign aid as the house dictates


[21-Nov-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
when congress provides funding and earmarks it for security assistance, that money must go to security assistance and it must be delivered on their schedule


[21-Nov-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the law


[21-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Maulkin12#8001
k


[21-Nov-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
ideally it shouldn't even involve the executive but congress is not given authority to appoint ambassadors


[21-Nov-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
(something I think should be remedied if we ever get around to it)


[21-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I don't know enough about that law or any other measures the President can take within his rightful power to do that, so... *shrugs*

I do know, however, that the Democrats and the media have been frothing at the mouth for nearly four years, and have been fighting him tooth and nail the whole way - so I look forward to the circus =3


[21-Nov-19 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
the clowns are the GOP


[21-Nov-19 03:18 AM] Maulkin12#8001
sure


[21-Nov-19 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
I certainly agree there's a circus


[21-Nov-19 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(let's just forget the benghazi hearings, "her emails", the birther movement, etc)


[21-Nov-19 03:21 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Eh? I'm not sure what point you're making there, Teaspoon


[21-Nov-19 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
hillary did not refuse a single subpoena as secretary of state


[21-Nov-19 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
"frothing at the mouth" comment


[21-Nov-19 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The dem "resistance" to Trump is next to nothing compared to how the GOP handled Obama being president


[21-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Outright making shit up about him not being allowed to be president


[21-Nov-19 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the circus around Clinton and benghazi that was far more absurd, and longer, than this impeachment inquiry


[21-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Maulkin12#8001
...Only one of those related to Obama, and the media has been consistently angry and vindictive towards Trump. On the other hand, the media was... well, absolutely in love with Obama, and has covered a good deal for Hillary's shit.

Not a big surprise, considering most of the big media companies are distinctly left-wing.


[21-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The day Obama was innaugurated there were GOP protests with Obama effigies hanging from a noose


[21-Nov-19 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And no one really cared


[21-Nov-19 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Clinton was Obama's secretary of state


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The media is absolutely not left wing


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just not Fox


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
please prove that the media has been "angry and vindictive towards trump"


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
otherwise I'm going to dismiss that claim out of hand


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Moreover... Are you trying to compare Hillary's emails and the Bengazi attack to... well, Trump apparently 'quid-pro-quo'-ing investigations?


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
no I'm not going to let you redirect this again


[21-Nov-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
one thing at a time


[21-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Nah, I don't need to; I can see it enough. You seem like a really angry dude, and I'm not gonna feed that.


[21-Nov-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
so you accept it without evidence


[21-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not; those non-issues were of far lesser gravity to what Trump is accused of doing


[21-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I accept it with the evidence I've seen, and I'm not going to go look up the evidence for you that made up my mind, @byte[]


[21-Nov-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
you won't convince me of anything unless you show me good evidence


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Maulkin12#8001
@byte[] , I really don't care to.


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
so I'm going to dismiss your claim that the media have been "angry and vindictive towards Trump"


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Cool


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
by Hitchens's razor


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Maulkin12#8001
I'm sure it's a very nice razor


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
did you ever read Hitchens?


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] Maulkin12#8001
nope


[21-Nov-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
or listen to him in debate?


[21-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Christopher Hitchens?


[21-Nov-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
that one


[21-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Oh wow. He seems like a... Wow.


[21-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Nope. I have not.


[21-Nov-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
giuilani confessed to violating the hatch act and then deleted the tweet realizing he had

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[21-Nov-19 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
no he didn't


[21-Nov-19 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the hatch act only applies to federal employees


[21-Nov-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
giuliani is not a federal employee


[21-Nov-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
(it's unclear how he is getting paid)


[21-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I don't know enough about that law or any other measures the President can take within his rightful power to do that, so... shrugs"


[21-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive's constitutional role in the US government is to carry out the law


[21-Nov-19 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1197342502346514432?s=20

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"Thank you, I wrote the damn bill," Sen. Bernie Sanders says when asked to weigh in on Medicare for All. #DemDebate https://t.co/cR6sI6G54H
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Twitter


[21-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can further refine from what Congress wrote, within reason.


[21-Nov-19 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cannot go outside what is reasonable.


[21-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judicary decides whether it has gone outside what is reasonable.


[21-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The President withholding aid on conditions Congress didn't mandate is absolutely, obviously not what Congress said to do.


[21-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a violation of the law.


[21-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even **before** getting into what he was trying to accomplish.


[21-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Congress is supposed to impeach Presidents who break the law by disobeying Congress, then it is supposed to impeach Trump, without even considering what everyone has to say about there being a quid pro quo.


[21-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now as for DUH MEEDEEUUUUUH, well, it's pretty simple.


[21-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Go any any major news network and you will not find a slew of anti-Trump stories


[21-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will find stories *about* Trump, primarily allegations and inner workings


[21-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
things that leaked, things that are unusual


[21-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because journalists want to get people to read their stories


[21-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every shokking detail is a way to get more ad revenue


[21-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
you have to go to the special sites to find the ones that're anti-trump


[21-Nov-19 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
most sites you have to specifically interpret as anti-trump


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will not see on CNN some big piece about how Trump's cabinet regularly using personal email servers for official business is a serious problem


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Maulkin12#8001
And yet, every time I see the media have something to say about Trump, they put it forward in the way most likely to show Trump in the worst way possible; whereas when it came to Obama, they were absolutely mum.

So, nah; I don't think I'm going to trust the media on this, thankee =3


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite such stories emerging about Hillary, one of Obama's cabinet


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they weren't mum


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
they reported it


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were stories every day about Obama


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
detailing things going on


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Really? About how Obamacare was illegally put through?

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[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat

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[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
:wat:


[21-Nov-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you know how bills become laws?


[21-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like, Congress writes the law


[21-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wrote Obamacare


[21-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Obamacare was justified as a tax. It did not originate in the house; all taxes must originate in the house. Yet, it was passed. 


That broke the law, did it not?


[21-Nov-19 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Originate? What do you mean by that?


[21-Nov-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't understand, then.


[21-Nov-19 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm confused


[21-Nov-19 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
he's parroting the conservative talking point that the US supreme court "illegally" interpreted the yearly fine for not having healthcare as a tax


[21-Nov-19 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If branches of government are acting completely independently from one another then the state may as well be a complete mess


[21-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That clause is applied very narrowly


[21-Nov-19 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cannot be used to shoot down any bill that messes with tax incentives at all.


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
In particular, if a bill uses a tax penalty to enforce something


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Yet, you really don't see anything about that - because they don't want you to. 

All tax bills must originate in the house.


Look, I'm sure you have a lot of comfort and faith in the media. I do not. They are controlled by the far-left, by-and-large, and even Fox is controlled by neocons.


So, I'm just going to sit back and watch. 

Maybe Trump isn't impeached, in which case these impeachment hearings will all but assure his re-elections.

Maybe Trump gets impeached; in which case, I look forward to the acceleration as one of the current Democrat candidates gets elected and, well... More people wake up.

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[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is generally considered outside the scope of the clause.


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/supreme-court-says-health-care-mandate-constitutional-tax

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In its long-awaited decision on the Affordable Care Act, the Supreme Court has ruled that Congress can require people to either have health insurance or...


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
this thing


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary, btw, decides whether a bill is constitutional.


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"The media is controlled by the far left"


[21-Nov-19 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they ruled on Obamacare.


[21-Nov-19 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just admit you don't know what the far left is


[21-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Maulkin12#8001
The Democratic party is the party of the far-left, now. They want open borders, reparations, they want demographic replacement...

Yeah, I'm not going to trust them, or their media dogs.


[21-Nov-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa does not own CNN, Extinction Rebellion does not own BBC, Bob Avakian has no control over anything the mass media says


[21-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Of course not. CNN owns Antifa - or, some larger groups own them both, if you'd prefer.

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[21-Nov-19 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa cannot be owned by anyone


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not a group, it's not a company


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just an ideology


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
you're done


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
bye


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Its abbreviated name may make it sound like a company, but that is arguably one of the stupidest possible assumptions


[21-Nov-19 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antifa is random ass people who show up to protest alt-right events


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Maulkin12: Of course not. CNN owns Antifa `


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
lul


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I especially like is what follows after, TSP


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
OR SOME LARGER GROUPS OWN BOTH IF YOU'D PREFER


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thinking the dems in general are even just left leaning is already absurd


[21-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
multiple choice conspiracy theories


[21-Nov-19 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last antifa protest was a lot of elderly folk protesting a proudboy "protest" to waste city funding


[21-Nov-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you'd prefer, Antifa is actually owned by the reptilians, CNN, WaPo, The NYT, and Corbyn, in an alternating fashion funneled thru secret Nigerian bank accounts


[21-Nov-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also if you'd prefer, the Earth isn't flat, it's actually a torus.


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually the earth is shaped like a klein bottle


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No edges, just one arbitrary hole


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no see, Chrono Trigger's map is accurate.


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait i think i got it


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the earth is shaped like the moon, but more moon shaped


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Mercator Projection is the truth.


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The wizards are lying to you.


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The earth is just one of Nebbie's testicles


[21-Nov-19 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The smaller, or larger one?


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why people think there's a difference between the modern antifa groups and the antifascists who fought against the nazis and the italians in the 30's


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, they don't


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think that people who opposed Hitler were just paid by communists


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
I've met people who praise the antifascists of the 20's and 30's and hate on the modern antifa


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that nobody should've opposed Hitler


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I've not met people that much into cognitive dissonance.


[21-Nov-19 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's posted on support


[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Argued for freedom of speech

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[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is, speech with no basis on reality


[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh my gooood


[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's arguing TSP's misrepresenting him


[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
🧊🍑


[21-Nov-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he was offering alternative conspiracy theories too


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah there's no use allowing him back here


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT WHAT IF GEORGE SOROS, OWNER OF CNN, IS USING ANTIFA AND WAPO AS ROBOT ARMS


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just another case of thorough delusion


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:faceclaw:


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-fiat-chrysler-lawsuit/gm-sues-fiat-chrysler-alleging-bribery-of-union-officials-cost-it-billions-of-dollars-idUSKBN1XU29V

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GM sues Fiat Chrysler, alleging bribery of union officials cost it...
General Motors Co on Wednesday filed a racketeering lawsuit against Fiat Chrysle...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191120&t=2&i=1454672027&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAJ1S6


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
> General Motors Co (GM.N) on Wednesday filed a racketeering lawsuit against Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV (FCHA.MI) (FCAU.N), alleging that its rival engaged in bribery over many years to corrupt the bargaining process with the United Auto Workers (UAW) union and gain wage and work practices advantages, costing GM billions of dollars.


[21-Nov-19 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
:wat:


[21-Nov-19 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i love this channel's mod team, you guys offer active resistance instead of passive doormat tolerance


[21-Nov-19 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y'all still suck dick tho


[21-Nov-19 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[21-Nov-19 03:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:sosmol: 🍆


[21-Nov-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*~~you don't know what tyranny even means, do you~~*


[21-Nov-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's gone


[21-Nov-19 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Vanished, poof


[21-Nov-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tyranny is just tranny with an extra y. Now gimma dat dikkgirl.

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[21-Nov-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dictator dickgirls


[21-Nov-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not sure if I should emote with ||:raptorshy: || or not


[21-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
@Raptorshy


[21-Nov-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've made the joke before, that I thought she was a raptor, not a Trannysaurus Rex.


[21-Nov-19 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That piece about CNN owning antifa was pretty touché tho


[21-Nov-19 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
8/10 hot take


[21-Nov-19 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still needed some more salt


[21-Nov-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, the Jews own CNN and Antifa. It is known.


[21-Nov-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively, all three are actually the tits of the Mars Lizard Women.


[21-Nov-19 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antifa is owned by the nazis, who are in turned owned by george soros and the moon men


[21-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
George Soros isn't actually a person, he's just a bunch of Russian nesting dolls of ownership by the liberal elite.


[21-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It goes so deep, the liberal elite don't even own themselves.


[21-Nov-19 04:03 AM] Treascair#7785
... I apparently missed some fun drama.  Who got the banhammer?


[21-Nov-19 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
george soros is the koch bothers confirmed!


[21-Nov-19 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was less a ban and mroe a rage quit


[21-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was all revealed when George Soros and one of the Kochs announced a plan to work together


[21-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
no banhammers, only a channel mute


[21-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
then he ragequit the server


[21-Nov-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were two midgets all along.


[21-Nov-19 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a bit like that time one guy brought out an IQ by country map and just wrecked their own arguement


[21-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I laffed quite hard.


[21-Nov-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
My cheeks are sore.


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's sad he went so soon tho


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
your 🍑 cheeks?


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
they would be sore from all the spanking


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was planning to dump on him some of my ideas of what society should actually be like


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
:nut:


[21-Nov-19 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that was quite fantastic in how embarrassing it was


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We're just talking about culture and cultural politics


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then this dude comes in, says "alright"


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
People on the right hav trouble fathoming my actual political desires.


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Posts a map with some number chart of what i assumed was IQ, i question him


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/638772835854188585


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then he says "this is a map of IQ by country", and byte just bans him


[21-Nov-19 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
that's the oof


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
ofc he has an aryanne icon now


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
lel


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He must've realized that his CLEVER DISGUISE wasn't working.


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
he also tried to bribe me to unban him


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[21-Nov-19 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With what


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
"I'll give a lot of money to your patreon if we can work something out"


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let's not kid ourselves, i;m about to wreck my whole career"


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
(paraphrase)


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_oy vey!_


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Byte the incorruptible


[21-Nov-19 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Robytespierre


[21-Nov-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
lemme dig it up


[21-Nov-19 04:14 AM] Treascair#7785
my dad has a turn of phrase for folks like that


[21-Nov-19 04:14 AM] Treascair#7785
"A special kind of special"


[21-Nov-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610

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[21-Nov-19 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
there you go


[21-Nov-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
ah sorry that's not the part where he offered to pay me


[21-Nov-19 04:17 AM] Treascair#7785
... oh.  All y'all had to say was that it was doomer.  Having seen their shenanigans in here before, I'm thoroughly unsurprised.


[21-Nov-19 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
that was in the email


[21-Nov-19 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610

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[21-Nov-19 04:18 AM] Treascair#7785
yeah, to quote the old Critic cartoon:  And nothing of value was lost.


[21-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[21-Nov-19 04:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
who hast summoned me into this unholy place


[21-Nov-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someone called you a Trannysaurus


[21-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This is acceptable


[21-Nov-19 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that's it


[21-Nov-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
:transgender_pride_flag:


[21-Nov-19 04:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
One of my quotes says something like "Tyranical tranny tyrannosaur"


[21-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/646907442386698285


[21-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
.qa @Nebbie Tyranny is just tranny with an extra y. Now gimma dat dikkgirl.


[21-Nov-19 04:22 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Nebbie: Tyranny is just tranny with an extra y. Now gimma dat dikkgirl.).


[21-Nov-19 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 'tyrannical'


[21-Nov-19 04:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I said something like :v


[21-Nov-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
what gets me about that screencap is


[21-Nov-19 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
"I'd like to interject for a moment"


[21-Nov-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://media.wired.com/photos/5d815ffe46103c0009de8d56/master/pass/science_stallman_473688628.jpg

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[21-Nov-19 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
"caw" is a good interjection


[21-Nov-19 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[21-Nov-19 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wrong channel (I have put my thought in the correct channel now)


[21-Nov-19 04:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Richard stallman kind of looks like my dad but pretty healthy in comparison


[21-Nov-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Sounds like your dad could use stimulation of the gastric/hepatic vagus


[21-Nov-19 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Wait fuck that was a different channel


[21-Nov-19 05:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/uAQ1GJeYK0A

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DarkMatter2525
https://youtu.be/uAQ1GJeYK0A
The Most Bizarre Bible Story
Most people dwell on the talking donkey part, but the context also has a lot of entertaining ridiculousness. This video took over a month to create. I wouldn...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uAQ1GJeYK0A/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Nov-19 05:40 AM] illumnious#7938
oh that is bizarre as fuck


[21-Nov-19 06:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/bonnerjames80/status/1196931940957339650

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James Bonner (@bonnerjames80)
https://twitter.com/bonnerjames80/status/1196931940957339650
My next door neighbor is banned from Twitter, but wanted to enter the #MAGACHALLENGE to see @realDonaldTrump  @SuriusVsVodka @CarpeDonktum @LisaMei62 @JamesRosenTV might appreciate his @SnoopDogg impression. https://t.co/gOdTDfxtcB
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Twitter


[21-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
how did you even find this


[21-Nov-19 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
pretty sure using someone's likeness (snoop dogg's) without permission is illegal


[21-Nov-19 06:19 AM] illumnious#7938
somewhere in that shit Twitter


[21-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/jsqP8GD

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Do they?
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[21-Nov-19 06:23 AM] illumnious#7938
please tell me this is fake right now https://www.diamondandsilk.com/blog/2019/11/05/obama-faces-lawsuit-over-paris-accord/?utm_source=fb_ad_network&utm_medium=web_recirculation&utm_campaign=fb_belowarticle

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Editorial Staff
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Obama Faces Lawsuit Over Paris Accord
Former President, Barack Obama has gotten himself into some trouble. Obama illegally entred into the Paris climate agreement.   A lawsuit was filed Monday, citing a legal memo that the Obama administration used to illegally enter
https://www.chicksonright.com/youngconservatives/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/11/Screen-Shot-2019-11-04-at-6.35.22-PM-1.jpg


[21-Nov-19 06:23 AM] illumnious#7938
please for god's sake


[21-Nov-19 06:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/04/trump-paris-climate-obama/

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Lawsuit Says Obama Entered Paris Climate Agreement Illegally, Cite...
Former President Obama illegally entered into the Paris climate agreement, a lawsuit filed Monday says.
https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/RTS15UNA-e1572891635247.jpg


[21-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
ew dailycaller


[21-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
aka ben shapiro central


[21-Nov-19 06:28 AM] illumnious#7938
let me guess, horrible news?


[21-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's an alt-right site


[21-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
no, the news itself is dumb


[21-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
an ex-president can't be personally sued for actions he took while president afaik


[21-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
because his actions as president are tied to the presidency


[21-Nov-19 06:30 AM] illumnious#7938
that's the dumbest news ever


[21-Nov-19 06:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGM-Ta29c3U&feature=youtu.be

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Jimmy Kimmel Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGM-Ta29c3U&feature=youtu.be
Trump Judging MAGA Rap Competition
Trump tweeted more than 80 times on Saturday, plans to release a new transcript from a second call with the President of Ukraine, continues his attacks again...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cGM-Ta29c3U/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Nov-19 06:33 AM] illumnious#7938
5:10 Rump pretty drunk


[21-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] read the mail that guy sent... The most amazing thing about him is he's still not buying the simple fact that the greatest security liability of any system is human operator.


[21-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
and that he's not nearly as smart as he (still apparently) thinks himself to be.


[21-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
despite being explicitly told so by several people, who _would_ know better.


[21-Nov-19 08:57 AM] Opponent#3498
also, kudos for plugging in 'qpq' term. That was pretty sick in context :P


[21-Nov-19 09:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f887ca30493b412896c6a46eb60836d2

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As Epstein died, guards allegedly shopped online and slept
NEW YORK (AP) — Two jail guards responsible for monitoring Jeffrey Epstein the night he killed himself were sleeping and browsing the internet instead, according to an indictment released Tuesday...
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[21-Nov-19 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/42c0f380ff514db49f9535b4752c7c32

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China demands Trump veto bills on Hong Kong
BEIJING (AP) — China on Thursday demanded President Donald Trump veto legislation aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong and renewed a threat to take “strong countermeasures” if the bills...
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[21-Nov-19 12:44 PM] Opponent#3498
not gonna lie, I'm suprised Discord didn't remove HK flag yet.


[21-Nov-19 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
making that move has been a disaster for every platform that has tried it, discord probably realizes if they did this it would be like holding a gun to it;s own head


[21-Nov-19 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
usually when they do it, they don't really have a choice.


[21-Nov-19 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess China's elite simply doens't have enough of a stake here to demand it.


[21-Nov-19 01:52 PM] byte[]#2610
It was, ah, relevant terminology

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[21-Nov-19 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/11/20/democrat-debate-biden-keep-punching-domestic-violence/4256766002/

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Biden, in Democratic debate, says you have to 'keep punching' to a...
Biden was one of 10 Democratic candidates to take the stage in Atlanta to debate a range of topics that included, health care, violence, impeachment and defeating President Trump.
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[21-Nov-19 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
he tried to make a joke.


[21-Nov-19 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
he really, really tried.


[21-Nov-19 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
if it was vetted by his team before, it makes the situation only funnier.


[21-Nov-19 02:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The playback of an anime called "The Machine of Revolution" has blown up in China


[21-Nov-19 02:35 PM] Opponent#3498
name doesn't ring a bell


[21-Nov-19 02:36 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Its story line is fucking retard


[21-Nov-19 02:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But it seems to successfully predicted the things in Hong Kong 6 years ago


[21-Nov-19 02:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's somehow... too similar...


[21-Nov-19 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Whoever linked PeterCoffin here, way back when once upon a time, thank you :P This guy seems like a perfect fit for me.


[21-Nov-19 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
everything is fucked, with detailed explanations, and the only way to solve it is, ultimately, 'unite the workers' and remake the system. And, as he doesn't say, we've been through THAT before so, everything is just fucked and there is no hope.


[21-Nov-19 05:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcT7JQRtnDE

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Eco Gecko
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Neoliberal Anxiety: Depression, Loneliness, and Suicide under Late...
Content Warning: Mental illness, suicide. Across the developed world, people are becoming more anxious, more depressed, and unfortunately, in some cases more...
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[21-Nov-19 05:49 PM] ononim#8141

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[21-Nov-19 06:13 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[21-Nov-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv_wAaohQ5k aah.

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Peter Coffin
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Democracy is Good, Actually | Very Important Docs²⁵
do we have a democracy? should we? could we? why? (content warning: ablest slurs) subscribe, ring the bell, and/or become a patron @ http://patreon.com/peter...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pv_wAaohQ5k/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Nov-19 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"As has been the case throughout the Democrats' impeachment sham, today's witnesses rely heavily on their own presumptions, assumptions and opinions. These two witnesses, just like the rest, have no personal or direct knowledge regarding why U.S. aid was temporarily withheld. The Democrats' are clearly being motivated by a sick hatred for President Trump and their rabid desire to overturn the 2016 election. The American people deserve better."


[21-Nov-19 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.plataformamedia.com/en-uk/news/politics/psl-mp-destroys-item-from-black-awareness-exhibition-at-the-house-of-representatives-11532381.html

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PSL MP destroys Black Awareness Exhibition item at the House of Re...
The cartoon depicted a young man killed by a police officer and was considered offensive by the 'bullet bench'.
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[21-Nov-19 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
from Brazil


[21-Nov-19 07:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanocallaghan/2019/11/18/this-is-not-coolastronomers-despair-as-spacex-starlink-train-ruins-observation-of-nearby-galaxies/

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‘This Is Not Cool!’ - Astronomers Despair As SpaceX Starlink T...
Two astronomers expected to see distant stars in their telescope this morning. Instead, they saw a train of satellites in SpaceX's Starlink mega constellation.
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[21-Nov-19 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
conservative boomer media be like


[21-Nov-19 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-smooth/

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Bernie Sanders Flaunts Suspiciously Smooth Forehead at Democratic ...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) was looking a little too spry on the stage in Atlanta in the opinion of some medically curious observers.
https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/bernie-botox.jpg


[21-Nov-19 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
is this a dogwhistle


[21-Nov-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
no, it's uhhhh


[21-Nov-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
amazing


[21-Nov-19 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
at how stupid it is


[21-Nov-19 08:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The difference is that one has the spotlight over and behind his head and one has spotlight directed to the front of his head making his wrinkles less pronounced.
There is also the orientation of his head which could cause the skin to move and stretch.


[21-Nov-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
it seems like a "jews trying to trick you" thing


[21-Nov-19 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
that's why I asked


[21-Nov-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-hearings-twitter-schiff-russia-ukraine-investigation-latest-a9212236.html

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Trump erupts over 'human scum' impeachment investigators in rambli...
US president rails against Adam Schiff and Fox News following day of damaging testimony in Congress
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/11/20/08/donald-trump.jpg


[21-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.sciencealert.com/starlink-is-being-an-absolute-nuisance-to-astronomers

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That Starlink Problem Astronomers Were Worried About Is Totally Ha...
For the modern astronomer, satellites are just a part of life. There are more than 2,000 active ones currently orbiting Earth, and the smartest minds in space photography have managed to work out clever ways of removing the occasional fly over from t
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2019-11/processed/elon_musk_starlinked_spacex_1024.jpg


[21-Nov-19 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/us/colorado-school-district-closed-virus-outbreak/index.html

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A Colorado school district has closed more than 40 schools after a...
A school district in Colorado has closed schools for two days after a virus outbreak rapidly spread through the student population, according to school officials. It's the first time the Mesa County Valley School District 51 has had to close all schools due to illness, the di...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191121005520-colorado-schools-virus-super-tease.jpg


[21-Nov-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh global reasonably affordable internet coverage is worth it imo


[21-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the sort of thing that will absolutely happen sooner or later, and while it sucks, it's also unreasonable to literally delay the inevitable.


[21-Nov-19 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
now whether or not the grand mass of satellites will maybe endanger future launches is a different question.


[21-Nov-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
probably far more relevant than view obstruction concerns.


[21-Nov-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a potential domino effect of falling satelites if one of them gets knocked off their path


[21-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[21-Nov-19 09:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is the tech mature?


[21-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
as far as communications equiment goes, well, I'd think so, this isn't new tech by itself.


[21-Nov-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
navigation-wise, as a part of the swarm... Who knows.


[21-Nov-19 09:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/21/wework-lays-off-2400-employees.html

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WeWork lays off 2,400 employees
The beleaguered office-sharing start-up is laying off employees in an attempt to right-size the business.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106258742-1574352032205gettyimages-1179654249.jpeg?v=1574352066


[21-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I mean story of iBurst, a tech that took off and lost a big time to LTE.  @Opponent
Are they using their own standard or use commonly used standard?


[21-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy here's nunes with the repeated conspiracy


[21-Nov-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and zero questions


[21-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
...apparently their own proprietary standard :/


[21-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.alphr.com/space/1008632/Elon-Musk-SpaceX-Starlink-internet

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Elon Musk claims SpaceX’s Starlink internet satellite service wi...
Musk’s IP-less satellite Starlink service could change how we use the internet forever
https://cdn2.alphr.com/sites/alphr/files/styles/og-image/public/2018/02/spacex_starlink_satellite_ip.jpg?itok=1-4S4fqY


[21-Nov-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Nunes's statement is driving me bonkers to listen to


[21-Nov-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
"tyranny of the majority"


[21-Nov-19 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
does he not realize that the GOP is the majority


[21-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
he should just go the extra step and call it 'dictatorship of the proletariat'


[21-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
could you gimme a good quality link? :3


[21-Nov-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/MpTIb_HubrY

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https://youtu.be/MpTIb_HubrY
YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[21-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
❤️


[21-Nov-19 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-federal-reserve-is-looking-into-developing-digital-currency-us-2019-11

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https://www.businessinsider.com/the-federal-reserve-is-looking-into-developing-digital-currency-us-2019-11
The Federal Reserve is looking into developing a digital currency ...
US central bankers have explored the possibility of developing a digital currency that would be directly available to businesses and households....
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5d9ba19232bf0f3be40a0275-2400/e156617a27774285b31a6a450a846b3b.jpg


[21-Nov-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/d0vi2wnv8zz31.jpg

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[21-Nov-19 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
> Young people stop taking loans and going for higher education.
> 
> News: Millenials are killing our universities
> Millenials have no asperations to higher learning
> Millenials aren't becoming doctors or nurses, why don't they want to look after the old.
> Too many immigrants taking our professional jobs, I don't want no wall jumpers looking after me.


[21-Nov-19 10:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I love hearing Schiff speak.


[21-Nov-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
This guy, in this meeting, is the 'better' image of western politics we have.


[21-Nov-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a73e77a2df5b497d8f2ef45bfb222dca

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https://apnews.com/a73e77a2df5b497d8f2ef45bfb222dca
California lawmaker wants to ban sending unwanted nude pics
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A California state senator wants to make it a crime to send unwanted nude photos to people online or in text messages. Exposing yourself on the street is a crime,...
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[21-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the criticism of Schiff made me actually want to listen and I like him


[21-Nov-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his speech at the end was powerful and i agree with him


[21-Nov-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need mroe people who honor duty above party


[21-Nov-19 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
...I wonder what's the other side of this story. This contract was promised to _someone_. Don't imagine they were too happy with the situation.


[21-Nov-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent https://youtu.be/GoD2gq8S2nc

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TMM
https://youtu.be/GoD2gq8S2nc
Grifting 101
TheProgressiveVoice's interview with Sargon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKddWnhb3EA Candace Owens and Imam Tawhidi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsW7...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GoD2gq8S2nc/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Holmes was in Kosovo, way back when, it seems. Yeah, after places like that we're softcore. We have wonderful memes from those times. Widespread human trafficking and foreign slave harems of the leadership, ethnic cleansings, massive devastation and war crimes. But, US had to deal with _someone_.


[21-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] thank you for that link. Yeah, I guess hearing what you define as your class enemy saying you're right is literally priceless :P


[21-Nov-19 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
especially if your worldview allows you to just accept it at face value.


[21-Nov-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
the followers are people just like the rest of us, but they've unfortunately turned off their critical thinking capacity


[21-Nov-19 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it really does seem like that.


[22-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/mitchysuch/status/1197171559137456131?s=19

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Krispy Scream (@mitchysuch)
https://twitter.com/mitchysuch/status/1197171559137456131?s=19
Starting to realize why I have never got my deposit back
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[22-Nov-19 12:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1197369209476538368?s=21

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Andrew Yang🧢 (@AndrewYang)
https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1197369209476538368?s=21
I’m not running for president because I fantasized about being president; I’m running for president because, like many of you here . . . I’m a parent & a patriot and I have seen the future that we are leaving for our kids & it is not something I am willing to accept....
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[22-Nov-19 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/politics/republican-senate-plans/index.html

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Republican senators discuss with White House would-be parameters o...
Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill are working with the White House to prepare for the likely Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, coalescing around the idea that allowing Democrats to lay out their evidence may be the best course of action to protect the Pre...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190324094522-ted-cruz-super-tease.jpg


[22-Nov-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/UdtQi6TEcjs

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Well There's Your Problem Podcast
https://youtu.be/UdtQi6TEcjs
Well There's Your Problem | Episode 7: Lac-Megantic
Today @donoteat01, @aliceavizandum, and @oldmananders0n talk about railroading in the age of loneliness: the MMA railroad, and one-man crews. listen to trash...
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[22-Nov-19 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Industrial politics history time


[22-Nov-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471597-secret-service-spent-over-250000-at-trump-hotels#

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Secret Service spent over $250,000 at Trump hotels
The Secret Service spent more than $250,000 at President Trump’s properties over a five-month period in 2017, according to newly released records.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-maralago_011019getty.jpg


[22-Nov-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://news.yahoo.com/prince-andrew-must-cooperate-with-us-investigators-over-jeffrey-epstein-victims-075657070.html

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Prince Andrew urged to co-operate with US investigators after 'Que...
The Duke of York announced he was stepping down from his duties after a meeting with the Queen.
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[22-Nov-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
> Prince Andrew has been urged to cooperate with US authorities after the Queen stripped him of his duties and his reported £250k salary.


[22-Nov-19 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
kek


[22-Nov-19 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
get got, royal


[22-Nov-19 01:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
afaik the £250k is for the duties he will no longer be doing and he will still receive his HMR just for being a royal. The family supports him according to the spokes person.


[22-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
the internal royal position is "dumbass, you got caught"


[22-Nov-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
they don't give a shit about whether he's a pedo or not, definition of "royal disposition" is not giving a fuck about laws


[22-Nov-19 01:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
BBC news about it is all about how it will look for the Royals. Won't somebody please think of the poor royals.


[22-Nov-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh those poor royals, howwill they ever find enough fainting thrones for the lot of them!


[22-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/471606-fbi-official-under-investigation-for-allegedly-altering-document-in#

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FBI official under investigation for allegedly altering document i...
An FBI official is being investigated after allegedly altering a document connected to surveillance of a 2016 Trump campaign aide,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-fbi_051519getty.jpg


[22-Nov-19 03:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcdonalds-employees-chicago-sue-over-155010072.html

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McDonald's employees in Chicago sue over workplace violence
McDonald's Corp employees on Thursday sued the fast food giant and several of its franchisees in Chicago over a store redesign that staffers say has made it easier for angry customers to leap over the counter and attack them. The suit, filed in Illinois' Circuit Court of Cook...
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[22-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/647257421819019264/FB_IMG_1574388496427.jpg

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[22-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
"tangible impact"


[22-Nov-19 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/transformers-no-lolno-laugh-gif-4581897

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Hahaha no
https://media.tenor.co/images/1729425786c408d8c815306b90df8873/raw


[22-Nov-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again


[22-Nov-19 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Obama 2.0


[22-Nov-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/P9qAFpbHr18

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https://youtu.be/P9qAFpbHr18
Get to Know a Grifter: Michael Avenatti
Avenatti gets fired by Stormy Daniels: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/michael-avenatti-to-be-charged-with-wire-and-bank-fraud.html Avenatti allegedly misquo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P9qAFpbHr18/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Nov-19 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
also @Opponent


[22-Nov-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-impeachment-panel-republicans-to-alexander-vindman-fuck-you-for-your-service?ref=wrap

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Trumpists to Alexander Vindman: ‘Fuck You for Your Service’
Once the party stood for strength. Now, it’s the GOP mocking the testimony of a decorated military officer. Now, it’s the GOP in bed with the darkest forces in the world.
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[22-Nov-19 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
(Wilson)


[22-Nov-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
wilson?


[22-Nov-19 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
is he bad or something


[22-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woodrow Wilson? His political ideology guides both parties in foreign policy.


[22-Nov-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very bad.


[22-Nov-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
no, wilson is the last name of the person who wrote the article


[22-Nov-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
rick wilson


[22-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Wilson_(political_consultant)

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Rick Wilson (political consultant)
Frederick George Wilson (born November 21, 1963) is a Republican political strategist, media consultant and author based in Florida who has produced televised political commercials for governors, U.S. Senate candidates, super PACs, and corporations.Wilson was a frequent guest...


[22-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he's a republican


[22-Nov-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
>political strategist


[22-Nov-19 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
> In 2018 Wilson released his first book, Everything Trump Touches Dies, in which he laments the re-alignment of the Republican Party behind Trump.


[22-Nov-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like making the president the commander in chief of the US forces was a mistake


[22-Nov-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/constitution-check-could-the-military-disobey-orders-issued-by-a-president-


[22-Nov-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
> Lyle Denniston, the National Constitution Center’s constitutional literacy adviser, looks at comments from retired Air Force General Michael Hayden about possible conflict between the military and a civilian President over controversial orders - a debate triggered by recent comments from GOP candidate Donald Trump.


[22-Nov-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
> “I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the language that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign….Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that [the killing of family members of terrorists] once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act.  You are not required to follow an unlawful order.  That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict.”


[22-Nov-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, I found this article from MARCH 2016


[22-Nov-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
like, the very language that trump used when he was talking about what he would do as commander-in-chief already had people incredibly worried, and he wasn't even the nominee yet


[22-Nov-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-charged-multiple-corruption-cases-today-2019-11-21/

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu charged in multiple corr...
The indictment throws the country's paralyzed political system into further disarray and threatening the long-time leader's grip on power
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/11/21/4931a635-1e75-4bef-82dc-0ac16c758a3d/thumbnail/1200x630g2/5ec76f87749d798e4ac494286d37f52a/bibi-gettyimages-1183626186.jpg


[22-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, netanyahu's not gonna get out of this one without sometheing big


[22-Nov-19 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
how long before they conduct a false flag attack and blame iran


[22-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Israel under martial law could happen


[22-Nov-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
their gov't isn't doing too well


[22-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
lots of parliamentary systems lately end up unable to form a proper gov't...


[22-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/politics/gordon-sondland-testimony/index.html

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The huge Gordon Sondland revelation almost everyone missed
Gordon Sondland made a LOT of news in his opening statement to the House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday. There was a quid pro quo between the Americans and the Ukrainains. Everybody in the White House knew about it. And the Ukrainians knew too.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191121093730-01-gordon-sondland-1120-super-tease.jpg


[22-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Sondland said that Trump just wanted the *announcement*, not the *investigation*


[22-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big deal, because it completely shoots in the head the notion that it was about dealing with corruption


[22-Nov-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead being about harming his political opponent's public image


[22-Nov-19 11:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I noticed that


[22-Nov-19 11:55 AM] byte[]#2610
But I guess I barely even gave it much thought


[22-Nov-19 11:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Because what the fuck is this administration


[22-Nov-19 11:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Literally the most corrupt president ever


[22-Nov-19 12:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7708319/Prince-Andrew-says-speak-FBI.html

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Prince Andrew says he WILL speak to the FBI
Baroness Helena Kennedy QC, a prominent human and civil rights lawyer from Scotland, said she would advise the Duke of York to meet agents in London instead.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/21/16/21296104-0-image-a-4_1574355273970.jpg


[22-Nov-19 12:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it just gets stupider https://www.thedailybeast.com/lev-parnas-attended-rudy-giulianis-madrid-meeting-with-zelensky-aide-andriy-yermak

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Parnas Attended Giuliani’s Madrid Meeting With Zelensky Aide
Parnas was at the table for a meeting where Giuliani pressured a senior Ukrainian official to investigate a company linked to the Bidens, the official told The Daily Beast.
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[22-Nov-19 01:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/389414260305952768/647411653637570560/Screen-Shot-2015-03-17-at-1.png

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[22-Nov-19 01:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that Deep South states aren't naturally conservative, it's just that the progressive people there are in prison


[22-Nov-19 02:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd like to see a more updated version of this, especially considering Florida's recent change


[22-Nov-19 02:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/CleveWootson/status/1197683838060814339

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Cleve R. Wootson Jr. (@CleveWootson)
https://twitter.com/CleveWootson/status/1197683838060814339
Difficult night for Biden. After climate protesters were escorted out, a woman asked him to “please don’t take money from corporations.”  His response: “You listen to Bernie too much.
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[22-Nov-19 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
> Biden seems to have utter contempt for the voting public. Like it is such a massive inconvenience for him to have to go through the electoral process and prove his worth as a candidate.


[22-Nov-19 02:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If it seemed like Trump didn't want to get elected, Biden is doing his level best to make it obvious


[22-Nov-19 03:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah I see "the left" is already doing "No Bernie, don't care >:(" stuff


[22-Nov-19 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fuck the voters, I have money!"


[22-Nov-19 03:16 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
oh that's a cool chart


[22-Nov-19 03:16 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I had no idea there were such restriction in the USA


[22-Nov-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f836decb6f2444fcb897df27279aa345

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https://apnews.com/f836decb6f2444fcb897df27279aa345
Trump doubles down on debunked Ukraine conspiracy theory
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is still promoting a debunked conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election, a day after a former White House security adviser called it a...
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[22-Nov-19 04:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471628-trump-on-impeachment-i-want-a-trial

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Trump on impeachment: 'I want a trial'
President Trump said Friday that he wants an impeachment trial in the Senate if the House votes to impeach him.“I want a trial,” Trump said during an interview on “Fox & Friends” Friday morning. “There’s nothing there.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldrally4_110119getty.jpg


[22-Nov-19 04:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes Mr. President, that is how it works


[22-Nov-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-impeachment-trump/trump-says-had-giuliani-work-on-ukraine-because-he-is-great-crime-fighter-idUSKBN1XW1J7

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Trump says had Giuliani work on Ukraine because he is 'great crime...
President Donald Trump on Friday offered an explanation for his use of his perso...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191122&t=2&i=1455438896&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAL15X


[22-Nov-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Please let Trump testify


[22-Nov-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Please


[22-Nov-19 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would pay for it if it was a pay per view event


[22-Nov-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
coem on legal team, just let him tesitify, release the restraints and let him talk


[22-Nov-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-predicts-report-on-origins-of-russia-probe-will-be-historic-idUSKBN1XW1GV

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Trump predicts report on origins of Russia probe will be 'historic'
U.S. President Donald Trump predicted on Friday that a government watchdog repor...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191122&t=2&i=1455439121&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAL14V


[22-Nov-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-trial/trump-wants-senate-trial-expects-joe-biden-to-testify-white-house-idUSKBN1XW01S he not only wants a trial, he wants joe biden to testify in it...

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Trump wants Senate trial, expects Joe Biden to testify: White House
President Donald Trump wants an impeachment trial to go forward in the U.S. Sena...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191122&t=2&i=1455381145&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAL01P


[22-Nov-19 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7708319/Prince-Andrew-says-speak-FBI.html

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Prince Andrew says he WILL speak to the FBI
Baroness Helena Kennedy QC, a prominent human and civil rights lawyer from Scotland, said she would advise the Duke of York to meet agents in London instead.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/21/16/21296104-0-image-a-4_1574355273970.jpg


[22-Nov-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Dude you're fucking stupid


[22-Nov-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
any lawyer can tell you this


[22-Nov-19 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
_NEVER FUCKING TALK TO THE COPS EVER_


[22-Nov-19 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or else?


[22-Nov-19 06:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
But think about the royal families reputation tho. They can't be see to look like they are protecting pedos and killers... Again...


[22-Nov-19 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-wants-always-corruption-in-fox-interview-2019-11

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-wants-always-corruption-in-fox-interview-2019-11
Trump said 'I do want corruption, always,' an apparent gaffe in a ...
Appearing on "Fox and Friends," Trump was discussing testimony from Gordon Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5dd7e214fd9db25cd2625882?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Nov-19 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ the cops are not your ally, they are your adversary


[22-Nov-19 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
at best, everything you say to them will be useless and they will not present any of it as evidence


[22-Nov-19 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
but that rarely happens


[22-Nov-19 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
at worst, they will ask you to answer questions that you would not have to answer in a trial


[22-Nov-19 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
and treat your noncompliance during interrogation as an admission of guilt


[22-Nov-19 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
and that can be enough to make you look guilty in a jury trial even if you did nothing wrong


[22-Nov-19 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not their job to defend you


[22-Nov-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
it's their job to send you to jail and they're going to do whatever they can do try to send you to jail


[22-Nov-19 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the prosecution, the judge, and the cops are not your friends.


[22-Nov-19 06:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/_t75kZmrwxg

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Jimmy Kimmel Live
https://youtu.be/_t75kZmrwxg
Lie Witness News – Trump Watergate Edition
A new tell-all book called 'A Warning,' written by an anonymous Senior White House Official, was released today. The saddest part about the book and these im...
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[22-Nov-19 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498

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[22-Nov-19 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
from that Biden tweet


[22-Nov-19 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
little gems like these make life worth living.


[22-Nov-19 06:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/mPayM7LvPMA

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RT America
https://youtu.be/mPayM7LvPMA
YouTube puts profit over content, shuts down channels not 'commerc...
YouTube will soon reserve the right to delete your channel if it's deemed it to be "no longer commercially viable." Investigative journalist Ben Swann joins ...
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[22-Nov-19 06:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-for-senate-trial-seeks-whistleblower-and-schiff-as-impeachment-witnesses

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Trump calls for Senate trial, seeks whistleblower and Schiff as im...
President Trump, during a wide-ranging interview Friday morning with “Fox & Friends,” called for a Senate trial should the House impeach him and pressed for House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, the whistleblower and others to be called as witnesses.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/11/21/694940094001_6107268298001_6107283718001-vs.jpg


[22-Nov-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
```House Democrats heard from a dozen witnesses in connection with the impeachment inquiry this week. The House is expected to draft and then vote on articles of impeachment by the end of next year. ```


[22-Nov-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it's THAT long of a process?


[22-Nov-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
they're using the GOP's rules from clinton


[22-Nov-19 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
which are a long process indeed


[22-Nov-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Articles Christmas


[22-Nov-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trial Jan-Feb


[22-Nov-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Acquittal, seven months of bragging


[22-Nov-19 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Close election


[22-Nov-19 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tulsi Gabbard complains no matter what happens


[22-Nov-19 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/647493862356680716/9m1jk0eke6041.png

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[22-Nov-19 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
CAN'T BLEED THE REED


[22-Nov-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/nov/22/sacha-baron-cohen-facebook-would-have-sold-final-solution-ads-to-hitler

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Sacha Baron Cohen: Facebook would have let Hitler buy ads for 'fin...
In wide-ranging speech, actor accuses tech giants of running the ‘greatest propaganda machine in history’
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[22-Nov-19 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Absolutely true


[22-Nov-19 07:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/po2sLf2AKzo

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Jonathan Pie
https://youtu.be/po2sLf2AKzo
Election 2019: Week 3
This weeks election highlights include Demonic Raab being an utter arsehole...along with all the other Tories. For tickets to see Jonathan Pie: FAKE NEWS go ...
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[22-Nov-19 08:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/a7m1yk3t08041.png

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[22-Nov-19 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
```Under this twisted logic, if Facebook were around in the 1930s, it would have allowed Hitler to post 30-second ads on his ‘solution’ to the ‘Jewish problem’.”```


[22-Nov-19 08:48 PM] Opponent#3498
oh it's so much more than this. You'd have a page with a 'jewish problem' ad, a 'permanent revolution' ad, a 'buy war bonds' ad and a toilet paper ad, side by side.


[22-Nov-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/qL9k1qO.gif

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We deserve better than this.
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[22-Nov-19 09:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
when did *that* happen


[22-Nov-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Last year.


[22-Nov-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine if obama did that


[22-Nov-19 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
it feels like that is the entire Trump life's motto.


[22-Nov-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his other motto is "if obama did it, it must be destroyed!"


[22-Nov-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bLq4466LM

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Sarah Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bLq4466LM
The Late Capitalism of Fast Food Twitter
An examination of roasts, zingers, clapbacks, and slave labour on Mexican tomato farms. https://www.patreon.com/SarahZ (Thumbnail art credit to bunberryart a...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z6bLq4466LM/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Nov-19 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm watching this and thinking, there will come a time where we'll WISH the 'enemy' was 'tone-deaf stupid old white men in power'


[22-Nov-19 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
the opposition that doesn't 'get' you is _much_ less of a threat than the one that _does_.


[22-Nov-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
arby's waifu was a thing for awhile


[22-Nov-19 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
no, I mean, take this and extrapolate on it over the entire media space.


[22-Nov-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Nov-19 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dataviper.io/blog/2019/pdl-data-exposure-billion-people/

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Vinny Troia
https://www.dataviper.io/blog/2019/pdl-data-exposure-billion-people/
1.2 billion people exposed in data leak includes personal info, Li...
Data discovered on an open elasticsearch database containes personal information on 1.2 billion people including Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIN profiles.
https://www.dataviper.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/data_viper_blog_v3.jpg


[22-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/john-bolton-reemerges-twitter/index.html

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Bolton reemerges after public hiatus charging White House froze hi...
Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, a constant if unseen presence during the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, reappeared on Twitter Friday after a months-long public hiatus.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191030160603-02-john-bolton-file-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[22-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"Since resigning as National Security Advisor, the White House refused to return access to my personal Twitter account," Bolton tweeted. "Out of fear of what I may say? To those who speculated I went into hiding, I'm sorry to disappoint!"
Bolton's tweet directly contradicts comments that Trump had made earlier in the day to Fox News. Asked during an interview if the White House had frozen Bolton's account, Trump had told Fox News Friday: "No, of course not."`

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[22-Nov-19 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
the one who sold him the idea that participating in Twitter drama would make him popular has scammed him.


[22-Nov-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/KJwl3ec

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Marine Corps Iraq Vet Jeff Key
 tried to have a civil conversation with Senator Lindsay Graham about our oath to defend the Constitution.

Lindsay Graham chose Donald Trump over loyalty to our democracy.
https://i.imgur.com/mz9MjiIh.jpg


[22-Nov-19 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound source


[22-Nov-19 11:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/mrky0095f9041.png

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[22-Nov-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-marie-yovanovitch-refused-to-hang-portrait-in-embassy-in-ukraine/

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Trump claims Marie Yovanovitch refused to hang his portrait in emb...
The president asserted Friday that then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch refused to hang his photo at the embassy in Kiev for at least a year. He said she was "not an angel"
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/11/15/c54a8e74-b65f-4bd5-a620-7e19e1278ee7/thumbnail/1200x630g2/455576f37e22b810e5b43d182460c370/ap-19319731034004.jpg


[22-Nov-19 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao, could Trump be anymore of a little bitch? Turns out yes

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[22-Nov-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is the littlest queen bitch


[22-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Populism is a hell of a drug


[22-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Since populists hate experience so much how about they go to unlicensed doctors and buy snake oil


[22-Nov-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait they already do


[22-Nov-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the kind of person who will eat a book thinking he'll absorb it;s knowledge through digestion


[22-Nov-19 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/471727-doj-watchdog-expected-to-say-fbi-erred-but-absolve-top-leaders-of

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DOJ watchdog expected to say FBI erred, but absolve top leaders of...
A Justice Department watchdog is expected to strongly criticize FBI officials for being careless in their pursuit of obtaining wiretaps on a former Trump campaign aide during the start of the Russia probe, but not find they were acting with a
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-fbi_051519getty.jpg


[22-Nov-19 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when the buttery males ended up with an HR referral for discipline points?


[22-Nov-19 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lev-parnas-helped-rep-devin-nunes-e2-80-99-investigations/ar-BBX4akA

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Lev Parnas Helped Rep. Devin Nunes’ Investigations
Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, helped arrange meetings and calls in Europe for Rep. Devin Nunes in 2018, Parnas’ lawyer Ed MacMahon told The Daily Beast. Nunes aide Derek Harvey participated in the meetings, the lawyer said, which were arranged to help ...


[22-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny seeing Russian trolls get mad at "Kyiv"


[23-Nov-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/11/22/trump-says-he-might-veto-legislation-that-aims-protect-human-rights-hong-kong-because-bill-would-impact-china-trade-talks/


[23-Nov-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Nov-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ping will never close the trade deal, this is to keep trump from interfering in hong kong


[23-Nov-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ping is just going to keep movign the goal post tugging the carrot on a string while trump follows blindly


[23-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
I kinda thought the Trump issue would be solved.


[23-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
but if you people have a full year+ to look forward to at the minimum... :/


[23-Nov-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The trump issue isnt resolved till he;s out of office


[23-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what I meant.


[23-Nov-19 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
till then he still has license to fuck shit up


[23-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I hoped that either he gets the boot, and the fucked-up state is someone else's problem, or he doesn't and he's republicans' problem.


[23-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
like it is now, it's entirely unworkable. Worse than before.


[23-Nov-19 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope he takes a swift boot up his poop chute


[23-Nov-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has never closed a deal with another dictator


[23-Nov-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thye know thye can make the promise of closing one to keep him doing what thye want, and then move goal posts so he never reaches his goal


[23-Nov-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he will never call thme out on it


[23-Nov-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim jong un uses this everytime he needs some extended publicity


[23-Nov-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin/erdogan use this, every time they want to do something horrifying that is most certainly a war crime


[23-Nov-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was a weak willed businessman who only marginally succeeded because he ran shady backdoor dealings with politicians, judges, and other much richer people. his businesses were more of a money laundering operation for other rich folk


[23-Nov-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he;s the same as president, but now he doesnt have the secrecy he needs tp be shady about everything because being the president puts you on a public stage


[23-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAbab8aP4_A

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Innuendo Studios
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The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low
patreon: http://patreon.com/InnuendoStudios tumblr: http://innuendostudios.tumblr.com twitter: https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios curious cat: https://curio...
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[23-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's, um, yeah. People who point out problems and are probably right but point no solution except the obviously unworkable ones is always fun to listen to.


[23-Nov-19 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my solution for the ftc's coppa thing, is that they should be targeting the advettisers who buy private data


[23-Nov-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make it so that the people selling the data to the advertisers, have no advertisers to sell thme to


[23-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
that would mean this act, like any similar act, is remotely in good faith.


[23-Nov-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
that is the fucking obvious thing to do


[23-Nov-19 12:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Kill YouTube as the platform people are paid on, move it all to voluntary off-sight transactions. Little kids don't have PayPals. Finger Family and Spiderman channels thus dry up. 😎


[23-Nov-19 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4bae0513e28647c59b74bcf51f7550a5

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Mystery grows over Trump administration hold on Lebanon aid
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is withholding more than $100 million in U.S. military assistance to Lebanon that has been approved by Congress and is favored by his national security...
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[23-Nov-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lebanon hasnt offered to investigate trump's political opponent, and as such, they cannot be aided


[23-Nov-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TcFBiWCLTc

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YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[23-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. He says, vote Sanders, reform can lead the way to revolution you seek.


[23-Nov-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and I think, well, this is why nobody will ever get any reforms if the current power structure has any say about it, which it does.


[23-Nov-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
although tbh I don't think he's right in this case, and so neither am I here.


[23-Nov-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
extensive enough reforms could leave to significant enough improvement in satisfaction with life that there would simply be no manpower nor motivation to create his 'classless society with workers owning the means of production'.


[23-Nov-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471750-yang-slams-lack-of-speaking-time-during-debate#

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Yang slams lack of speaking time during debate
Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang knocked MSNBC for what he said was a lack of speaking time at the latest Democratic debate this week.
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[23-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471753-trump-tweets-altered-cnn-clip-mocking-cuomo-segment

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Trump tweets altered CNN clip mocking Cuomo segment
President Trump on Friday evening tweeted an edited video clip of a CNN segment with Chris Cuomo, replacing the voice of Cuomo's mother with sound bites of Trump instead.
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[23-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People already know my stance on the president and speech


[23-Nov-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(They should have basically none that isn't in good faith)


[23-Nov-19 03:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1197397243013275648?s=21

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[23-Nov-19 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine that same sentence but then he pulls out an AR and goes postal


[23-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/yRBenGR.jpg

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Drain that swamp baby
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[23-Nov-19 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
YEAH, DRAIN THAT SWAMP BABY


[23-Nov-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/oSIAxfW

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Thoughts?
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[23-Nov-19 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Rifle_Association

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Socialist Rifle Association
The Socialist Rifle Association (SRA) is an American socialist firearm organization that is dedicated to "providing working class people the information they need to be effectively armed for self and community defense". The group advocates for a left-wing advocacy for Second ...
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[23-Nov-19 03:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🔫


[23-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/e01mb6


[23-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
> African kids forced to sing Chinese solidarity propaganda “We all have one family that name called Nation China.”


[23-Nov-19 04:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk why my history teacher spent four classes to prove Sun Yatsen is a "traitor of the nation"


[23-Nov-19 04:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If this is spotted, he'll doubtlessly lose his job


[23-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html

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Exclusive: Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met w...
A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191120114258-24-impeachment-hearing-1120-nunes-super-tease.jpg


[23-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Nov-19 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon https://twitter.com/JimSwiftDC/status/1197188081906061318

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[23-Nov-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/news/amazon-deforestation-and-number-of-fires-show-summer-of-2019-not-a-normal-year

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Amazon deforestation and number of fires show summer of 2019 not a...
The fires that raged across the Brazilian Amazon this summer were not ‘normal’ and large increases in deforestation could explain why, scientists show.
https://cisweb.lancaster.ac.uk/EventsMedia/Amazon1%20lower%20res%20%28002%29%20web-637096669699170943.jpg


[23-Nov-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
> The perceived scale of the Amazon blazes received global attention this summer. However, international concerns raised at the time were countered by the Brazilian Government, which claimed the fire situation in August was ‘normal’ and ‘below the historical average’.


[23-Nov-19 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
> An international team of scientists writing in the journal Global Change Biology say the number of active fires in August was actually three times higher than in 2018 and the highest number since 2010.


[23-Nov-19 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
tfw scientists directly refute government propaganda


[23-Nov-19 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Nov-19 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/39237ec8a9d0458e9d23588fcc82ac30

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Prosecutors: Political donor sought to silence witnesses
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A political fundraiser accused of funneling foreign money into U.S. elections offered six witnesses in his case more than $6 million to keep quiet, federal prosecutors said...
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[23-Nov-19 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Exclusive: Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met w...
A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191120114258-24-impeachment-hearing-1120-nunes-super-tease.jpg


[23-Nov-19 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cong-peiwu-china-ambassador-kovrig-spavor-1.5370503


[23-Nov-19 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china is threatening canada now over them possibly following US HK bill


[23-Nov-19 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
```A political fundraiser accused of funneling foreign money into U.S. elections offered six witnesses in his case more than $6 million to keep quiet```


[23-Nov-19 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
and they declined? The only way this is sane is if it's drop in the ocean for them as well.


[23-Nov-19 05:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sometimes rational choice theory fails, actually most of the time it does. Or often it does outright. Or perhaps there was a credible fear of being found out in taking hush money which'd be worse for them.


[23-Nov-19 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
true. It would be.


[23-Nov-19 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with the way things aregoing rightnow, they would have likely been foudn had they accepted


[23-Nov-19 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you're both right on that one.


[23-Nov-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rocks are being lifted en masse with this investigation


[23-Nov-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lf701glixc041.jpg

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[23-Nov-19 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
He's so close https://i.redd.it/vtwa7pdaef041.jpg

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[23-Nov-19 06:36 PM] ononim#8141
white Nessa looks creepy


[23-Nov-19 06:36 PM] ononim#8141
||also proof what people have no taste||


[23-Nov-19 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
she does though.


[23-Nov-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
more social commentary https://youtu.be/l5jbfCxEQO4

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[23-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
'When we talk about customer service, most of us think of customer service. But there's more to it than customers. There's service.'


[23-Nov-19 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
that's deep.


[23-Nov-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-extradition-britain/uk-says-1984-hong-kong-rights-treaty-with-china-is-as-valid-as-ever-idUSKCN1TR1F0

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UK says 1984 Hong Kong rights treaty with China is as valid as ever
Britain's foreign ministry said on Wednesday it would continue to defend it...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190626&t=2&i=1401701298&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5P180


[23-Nov-19 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/parnas-lawyers-nunes-ukraine-officials-meeting-lawsuit-1473679

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After lawyers for Giuliani "fixer" allege Nunes met Ukrainian offi...
"I intend to hold The Daily Beast and CNN accountable for their actions," Rep. Devin Nunes said. "They will find themselves in court soon after Thanksgiving."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1548245/schiff-nunes-impeachment.jpg


[23-Nov-19 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His opponents: CNN, and a cow


[23-Nov-19 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
he mad


[23-Nov-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so now he;s adding this to his imaginary cow lawsuit then?


[23-Nov-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[23-Nov-19 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
why the cow?


[23-Nov-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Over the past two weeks, CNN approached Nunes on two occasions and reached out to his communications staff to get comment for this story.
In the Capitol on Nov. 14, as CNN began to ask a question about the trip to Vienna, Nunes interjected and said, "I don't talk to you in this lifetime or the next lifetime."
"At any time," Nunes added. "On any question."
Asked again on Thursday about his travel to Vienna and his interactions with Shokin and Parnas, Nunes gave a similar response.
"To be perfectly clear, I don't acknowledge any questions from you in this lifetime or the next lifetime," Nunes said while leaving the impeachment hearing. "I don't acknowledge any question from you ever."`


[23-Nov-19 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Opponent Nunes has been "embellishing" his and his family's past as humble California farmers; some time ago a joke twitter account called Nunes Cow or somesuch started pointing out it was false and mocking him


[23-Nov-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-10-20/abcarian-sunday-column for cow context

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Devin Nunes co-sponsored the 'Discouraging Frivolous Lawsuits Act....
Devin Nunes, a co-sponsor of the Stop Frivolous Lawsuits Act, seems to have discovered a new fundraising tool: frivolous lawsuits.
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[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that's actually pretty clever.


[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sued the twitter a lot


[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's been trying to sue twitter to get them the ID of the user and then sue the user into oblivion for the temerity of pointing out he's a liar


[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and kept bringing back more and more lawsuits agaisnt it


[23-Nov-19 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The idea is mostly to cow the user into shutting up


[23-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, a SLAPP suit


[23-Nov-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so far, it;s had the opposite effect and it boosted the twitter user;s ratings


[23-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes that is also why libel and defamation suits are generally horrible ideas


[23-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless Elon Musk is calling you a pedophile, you probably should suck it up.


[23-Nov-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you know, do it back to them


[23-Nov-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nunes is very much the "stop having fun" guy


[23-Nov-19 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, there are very valid uses


[23-Nov-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anything that slightly displeases him is dragged to court


[23-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone flat out making shit up is bad


[23-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so easy to defend yourself though


[23-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It has to be really bad


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
in the US it's almost impossible to win defamation for anything, especially if you're a public figure


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine a newspaper just doesn't like someone and spends 4 months making up stories about you kicking puppies and even posts pretty decent photoshops of them kicking puppies


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Public figure you would have to prove like


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
the point is just to annoy this user with a SLAPP suit


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I want to ruin Nunes and that's my intention in writing this"


[23-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's hard to prove you don't kick puppies


[23-Nov-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And "I know it's fake, 100%"


[23-Nov-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah unless they know it is fake and are doing it to ruin you basically they can print the puppy kicking


[23-Nov-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They also might say "it's just parody"


[23-Nov-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The press having less rights than this would not be a good thing


[23-Nov-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5W06xR8EYk this is a good example of the just parody type

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That Hat Guy
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Last Week Tonight: Eat Shit, Bob: The Musical
The conclusion to at least the first lawsuit.
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[23-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the classic one


[23-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
that's pretty good.


[23-Nov-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
did Falwell lose the suit?


[23-Nov-19 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
or did they settle


[23-Nov-19 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lose, at the Supreme Court


[23-Nov-19 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Him and Larry Flynt became friends later in life


[23-Nov-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How the magic of friendship grows


[23-Nov-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471703-impeachment-witnesses-come-under-threats-harassment

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Impeachment witnesses come under threats, harassment
Two weeks of public testimony have revealed new, damaging details of the Trump administration’s dealings with Ukraine, but witnesses who come before Congress and the American people have had to
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yovanovitchmarie_111519gn9_lead.jpg


[23-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
so what is 'Never Trumper' supposed to be?


[23-Nov-19 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
shame he didn't provide a definition :D


[23-Nov-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html

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Exclusive: Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met w...
A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191120114258-24-impeachment-hearing-1120-nunes-super-tease.jpg


[23-Nov-19 11:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeachment-state-department-100-pages-documents-pompeo-giuliani-yovanovitch-sondland

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Giuliani-Pompeo contacts before Yovanovitch ouster are seen in new...
The State Department late Friday released 100 pages of court-ordered documents that show President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo spoke on the phone at least two times in late March within the same time frame of events currently und...
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[23-Nov-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw the most edgy 14 year old tier thing recently


[23-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck calling people hypocrites. Treat your enemies how you wouldn't want to be treated."


[23-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/471801-giuliani-defends-insurance-comment-saying-he-has-a-safe-full-of

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Giuliani defends 'insurance' comment saying he has a safe full of ...
Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's personal lawyer, elaborated on his "insurance policy" Saturday, tweeting that he has files in his safe "about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giuliani-1.jpg


[23-Nov-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy no saying this doesn't help you


[23-Nov-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why you spent a year trying to get Ukraine to dig up dirt right


[23-Nov-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He can;t bus me! I hold all the evidence he wants!"


[23-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how the US press secretary said Bolton's account wasn't on hold, he just didn't know how to recover his password


[23-Nov-19 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow


[23-Nov-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When Mr Cybersecurity Expert Giuliani here had to ask an apple store to get his password back


[23-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's hilarious


[23-Nov-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also why doesn't he just release the insurance then


[23-Nov-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he thinks if he witholds it from trump, thne trump will have no choice but to keep him


[23-Nov-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is notorius for betraying people on a dime once he gets what he wants, giuliani knows this


[23-Nov-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other thing is, that he clearly doesnt have said evidence, but if he pretends he does, then he can possibly wedgehimself into trump's pocket and hold securely for awhile


[23-Nov-19 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if giuliani admits this, or releases his "insurance" then Trump will do the "you've outlived your usefulness" shtick and throw giuliani under the bus to eliminate a problematic impeachment thorn


[23-Nov-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again trump may jsut do that anyway just for "withholding" the "evidence"


[23-Nov-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now GOP is back on the "maybe they won't vote for articles" because of one poll that was largely done over landline phones


[23-Nov-19 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[23-Nov-19 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-trade/china-attacks-u-s-at-g20-as-the-worlds-biggest-source-of-instability-idUSKBN1XX09P

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China attacks U.S. at G20 as the world's biggest source of instability
The United States is the world's biggest source of instability and its poli...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191123&t=2&i=1455782676&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAM09R


[24-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well, they're not wrong. USSR is no more and Russia's reach is diminished. So US really has no competition.


[24-Nov-19 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-seals/u-s-navy-secretary-says-he-did-not-threaten-to-resign-in-dispute-with-trump-idUSKBN1XX0NT?il=0

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U.S. Navy Secretary says he did not threaten to resign in dispute ...
The U.S. Navy Secretary said on Saturday he did not threaten to resign amid a di...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191123&t=2&i=1455945318&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAM0QL


[24-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`“I need a formal order to act,” Spencer said. “I do not interpret (tweets) as a formal order.”`


[24-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>cue trump asking an aide how to issue a formal order


[24-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
kinda wish he'd declare  his tweets being the new form of formal order.


[24-Nov-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/effb7b53dac54c12ba852ef8e5633691

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Pence works to reassure Kurdish allies in surprise Iraq trip
IRBIL, Iraq (AP) — Vice President Mike Pence worked to reassure the United States’ Kurdish allies in an unannounced trip to Iraq on Saturday, the highest-level American trip since President Donald...
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[24-Nov-19 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
pence is running so much damage control on trump's bumbling


[24-Nov-19 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
RBG in emergency care


[24-Nov-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she's having chills and a fever


[24-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hold on a fucking second


[24-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you have to pay for flu shots in the US?


[24-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I'm pretty sure


[24-Nov-19 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
it's usually covered by healthcare if you have it though


[24-Nov-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
it costs $40 for a flu shot from rite aid


[24-Nov-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Some employers will just do it for free


[24-Nov-19 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
also $40 from CVS


[24-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
$41 from walgreens


[24-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
$39.88 walmart


[24-Nov-19 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
there's some clinics and community stuff that will give away flu shots for free, but it seems like on the by and large that you have to pay for flu shots


[24-Nov-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/melbourne-school-reportedly-bans-girls-from-wearing-leggings-because-theyre-distracting--c-571103

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https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/melbourne-school-reportedly-bans-girls-from-wearing-leggings-because-theyre-distracting--c-571103
Melbourne school 'bans girls leggings' because boys find them dist...
Commentators say the reported ban is 'counterintuitive' and sends girls the wrong message.
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[24-Nov-19 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck

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[24-Nov-19 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
> A Melbourne high school has reportedly banned female students from wearing leggings because they claim it distracts the male cohort. One of the senior teachers at the suburban school posted to the student's portal to illustrate the ban, saying the attire "sexualises" the girls.


[24-Nov-19 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I saw exactly 1.09441 square inches of a girl's shoulder today. I immediately fell to my knees, as the rush of dopamine signaling my impending earth-shattering orgasm started making me moan loud enough to deafen everyone in the immediate vicinity. What followed was a torrential downpour of every single sperm cell I ever have or ever will produce, shot out so hard that my dick was ripped apart by my übernut accelerating to 5% the speed of light by the time it left my urethra. It vaporized the girl as it punched right through her, barely slowed, before cutting through a structural support beam in the school as if it were a nuclear-powered angle grinder. The sheer weight of this historical nut, combined with the total destruction of everything in its path, caused the school to collapse, and every female in the state of Illinois to fall pregnant with my children. When the final death toll was tallied, there were 146 deaths, 458 injuries, and over 4 million pregnancies. As I lay dying under the rubble of my high school, I rest easy, knowing every one of my sons will repeat my glorious actions. Goodbye.


[24-Nov-19 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
that's the thing though, they're COVERING UP


[24-Nov-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon yes, flu shots are generally $40 uninsured, so many people like me don't bother.


[24-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coincidentally, $40 is the minimum payment for service at the local not-entirely-free clinic.


[24-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it's 10% if that's higher)


[24-Nov-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning like, I hav to pay $40 just to see a doctor.


[24-Nov-19 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now granted, it's also $40 for me to get my cavities filled, which beats out a lot of stuff in other places.


[24-Nov-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that really adds up.


[24-Nov-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
When finances are tight, many people in the US get no healthcare period.


[24-Nov-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No vaccinations, no teeth cleanings, etc.


[24-Nov-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did I mention that things like the health insurance my college provided, and some medicare options, **don't cover preventive care**?


[24-Nov-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and there are industry-bought studies arguing the core problem in US healthcare is too much preventive care.


[24-Nov-19 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That we should all just not get those X-rays or whatnot, wait until we're literally having heart attakks to seek care.


[24-Nov-19 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the clinic here requires a $50 a month charge... unless you need shots,surgery, or other then it;s extra


[24-Nov-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should further note, I got a TDaP booster, but not an MMR booster. That would've costed extra.


[24-Nov-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I can get free flu shots at immunization clinics downtown


[24-Nov-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Other immunizations cost money


[24-Nov-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2019/11/23/koalas-functionally-extinct-after-australia-bushfires-destroy-80-of-their-habitat/

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Koalas ‘Functionally Extinct’ After Australia Bushfires Destro...
As Australia experiences record-breaking drought and bushfires, koala populations have dwindled along with their habitat, leaving them “functionally extinct.”
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[24-Nov-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
> Prime minister has told Australians to ignore all the fire, deaths, destruction and smoke and concentrate on the upcoming cricket. He also gave "thoughts and prayers"


[24-Nov-19 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
More Ukraine news https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/everything-is-connected-ukraine-state-gas-firms-ceo-willing-to-testify-against-rudy-giuliani/

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Jerry Lambe
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/everything-is-connected-ukraine-state-gas-firms-ceo-willing-to-testify-against-rudy-giuliani/
‘Everything Is Connected’: Ukrainian Gas Company’s CEO Willi...
The CEO of Ukraine’s state-owned gas and oil company Naftogaz said on Friday that he would be willing to provide testimony to U.S. federal prosecutors currently investigating Rudy Giuliani’s foreign business dealings in the region.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Rudy-Giuliani-via-ABC-News.jpg


[24-Nov-19 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent I have to say, Ukraine has  become respected in the eye of the public here


[24-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471810-biden-reveals-four-women-he-could-pick-as-his-running-mate

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471810-biden-reveals-four-women-he-could-pick-as-his-running-mate
Biden reveals four women he could pick as his running mate
White House hopeful former Vice President Joe Biden (D) identified four women he could name as his pick for vice president if he wins the Democratic nomination.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_091219upi_lead.jpg


[24-Nov-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Usually, some story hits our media once every 3 or 4 months, and it's a broadcaster like NPR that covers it


[24-Nov-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His picks would be Yates, Abrams, Shaheen, or Hassan.


[24-Nov-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Now there's a story from Ukraine every hour


[24-Nov-19 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I can pick a woman too! please vote for me, ladies"


[24-Nov-19 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He doesnt even know their names, he knows thme by their news headlines


[24-Nov-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hi7iwYkUcFM

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BlazeTV
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hi7iwYkUcFM
Rep. Stefanik Blows Apart Schiff’s Impeachment Narrative: No Bri...
In today's second impeachment hearing, Rep. Stefanik blew apart Adam Schiff and the Democrats' impeachment narrative as she got both witnesses to admit no br...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hi7iwYkUcFM/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Nov-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
This was in my recommendations


[24-Nov-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
The argument is that "well they never said quid pro quo, so it didn't happen"


[24-Nov-19 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
along with various rephrasings of "Ukraine wasn't aware of the hold on security assistance [after the July 25 call] so there was no pressure" and "there was no mention of bribery in the call readout"


[24-Nov-19 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
People who turn off their critical thinking ability are _fucking dangerous_


[24-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hearing Schiff talk about how his colleagues that aren't lawyers don't know what hearsay is was great


[24-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do we have people who are uneducated in the law making laws anyway?


[24-Nov-19 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He used synonyms therefore it didnt happen! you all heard him!"


[24-Nov-19 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
New rule, switch to esperanto when talking about crimes


[24-Nov-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they bought their way into law


[24-Nov-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I say "I don't want anything I want no cash" after I had people point a gun at a bank teller I'm clear


[24-Nov-19 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LftKptf4HIE (title is wrong, Jordan is the one who is backed into a corner)

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=LftKptf4HIE
Jim Jordan Backs Schiff Into a Corner on Exposing the Whistleblower
Jim Jordan clashed with Rep. Adam Schiff in an impeachment hearing today as Adam Schiff refused to let Lt. Col. Vindman reveal who he leaked information abou...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LftKptf4HIE/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Nov-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the blaze, what did you expect. it;s run by nutball steve the apocalypse gold man


[24-Nov-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Fake news is a touchy subject for me


[24-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gym Jordan is incredible


[24-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put on a fucking jacket idiot


[24-Nov-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RWSB40w5txU (Nunes does none of the above and instead suggests pursuing an irrelevant matter as the subject of the investigation, along with promoting the Ukrainian election interference conspiracy theory)

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Nunes Lists Questions that Dems, "Whistleblower", and Media REFUSE...
The second week of impeachment hearings are underway and while the Democrats are busy asking witnesses how they feel about a phone call that is now public fo...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RWSB40w5txU/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Nov-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I've had enough of this


[24-Nov-19 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think i ever heard nunes even ask a question, he got the mic, thne he jsut stood there throwing red string all over the place


[24-Nov-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a1ef16a612bd4130a18479c01bd72586

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https://apnews.com/a1ef16a612bd4130a18479c01bd72586
Feds fight back as Epstein death conspiracy theories swirl
NEW YORK (AP) — At another time in history, the indictment of two jail guards responsible for monitoring Jeffrey Epstein the night he killed himself might have served as an emphatic rebuttal to...
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[24-Nov-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/de8a8e79d7a640ccbf80e96c79e41828

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Hong Kong votes in election seen as referendum on protests
HONG KONG (AP) — Long lines formed outside Hong Kong polling stations Sunday in elections that have become a barometer of public support for anti-government protests now in their sixth...
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[24-Nov-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/7GAozVK.jpg

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[24-Nov-19 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YyV255H

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.
https://i.imgur.com/SPZwykDh.jpg


[24-Nov-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/23/20979444/fossil-fuel-protest-harvard-yale-football-game

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https://www.vox.com/2019/11/23/20979444/fossil-fuel-protest-harvard-yale-football-game
Climate activists brought Harvard-Yale football game to a stop to ...
More than 150 protesters demanded the schools divest themselves of fossil fuel investments.
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[24-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e0ne2o/top_dem_says_ethics_investigation_into_devin/f8g162s/

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Top Dem says ethics investigation into Devin Nunes likely
Posted in r/politics by u/leocohen99 • 41,215 points and 1,735 comments
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[24-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[24-Nov-19 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
**Devin Nunes’ Unitemized contributions/total receipts:**
> 2016 - 1%
> 2018 - 46%


[24-Nov-19 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Moo


[24-Nov-19 09:29 AM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/648069771551834113/v0Mhyz9JRD9xC0dFWWQqQX9V-cBZxovmo8N8G4UVLXQ.png

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[24-Nov-19 11:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admits-to-ukraine-military-aid-quid-pro-quo-tv-2019-11

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Trump essentially admitted on live TV to doing the thing he's accu...
President Donald Trump acknowledged that he held up military aid to pressure Ukraine to give in to his political demands.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5dd7f59ffd9db26b8c23b306?width=1200&format=jpeg


[24-Nov-19 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
that's like the fifth time he's done that lol


[24-Nov-19 12:00 PM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] well, that's good. I'd honestly prefer Ukraine be known as having US backing, rather than, say, the extreme shortsightedness of internal policies.


[24-Nov-19 12:00 PM] Opponent#3498
and that certainly beats 'that Russian offshoot that steals european gas from it's transit pipes' like it was in 2000's


[24-Nov-19 03:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[24-Nov-19 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.euronews.com/2019/11/23/boris-johnson-manifesto-pledge-i-ll-bring-brexit-deal-to-parliament-by-christmas

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Boris Johnson: I'll bring Brexit deal to parliament by Christmas
The Prime Minister is expected to promise tax freezes and money to fix pot-holes in the roads when he launches the Conservatives manifesto.
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/04/31/84/02/1000x563_cmsv2_9ddb027c-3684-558b-bd42-2ab4acd65574-4318402.jpg


[24-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I remember the last time someone said something would be "over by christmas"


[24-Nov-19 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
11 million people died :twismug:


[24-Nov-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy, the anti santa is coming to town


[24-Nov-19 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
and with a goalpost like that, he's got his work cut out for him.


[24-Nov-19 05:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The Grinch came on Christmas and took all the children's European Rights.


[24-Nov-19 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some say his heart shrank 10 inches that day


[24-Nov-19 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1197913224361975808

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jordan (@JordanUhl)
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1197913224361975808
This guy isn't yelling or shouting. He isn't being unreasonable. He simply tries to find common ground with @LindseyGrahamSC.

Graham runs away the second Trump's conduct comes up. https://t.co/d1sJ8nxW2Q
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[24-Nov-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/583b5e7ecfc84b61b470b5e8e3c4bcab

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Michael Bloomberg launches Democratic presidential bid
NEW YORK (AP) — Billionaire and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the world’s richest men, has formally launched a Democratic bid for president. Ending weeks of...
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[24-Nov-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fa25ecd5399b45529ece8f77ff71cfcd

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Official says White House gave Navy go-ahead on Gallagher
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy has been notified that the White House will not intervene to stop a disciplinary proceeding that could cost a SEAL his position in the elite unit, a senior Navy official...
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[24-Nov-19 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-22/japan-needs-to-do-more-to-fix-china-s-image-problem-xi-says


[24-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-50222380

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https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-50222380
Instagram v porn stars: A battle over censorship?
Adult performers say it has unfairly removed their accounts, despite no explicit images.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11792/production/_109807517_main2.jpg


[24-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471844-bloomberg-will-not-investigate-owner-or-his-democratic-rivals-report#

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Bloomberg News will not investigate owner or his Democratic rivals
Bloomberg News will not investigate its founder or any of his Democratic primary rivals, the news agency confirmed Sunday after the former New York City mayor officially entered the race for the White House.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/michael_bloomberg.jpg


[24-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50511063

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Data leak details China's 'brainwashing system'
Leaked documents show new evidence of China's systematic brainwashing of Uighur and other detainees.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/E3A6/production/_109787285_08628207-a868-474b-863b-e97f60f7b885.jpg


[24-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I could've sworn Bloomberg was already confirmed as running months ago...


[24-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[24-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know hot contrarian take again but


[24-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His soda ban was the correct thing to do


[24-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The "ban" was just "you can't sell half-litre cups", right?


[24-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[24-Nov-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's actually a way of protecting consumers from being manipulated by deceptive tactics


[24-Nov-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People will buy more of something and pay more when they get it all at once because it makes them feel less bad


[24-Nov-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a decent version of the soda "ban"


[24-Nov-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://reason.com/2019/11/22/west-virginia-inmates-will-be-charged-by-the-minute-to-read-e-books-on-tablets/

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West Virginia Inmates Will Be Charged by the Minute to Read E-Book...
Inmates at several West Virginia prisons are getting free electronic tablets to read books, send emails, and communicate with their
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[24-Nov-19 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
@US what the fuck


[24-Nov-19 10:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/politics/mike-pence-iraq/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/politics/mike-pence-iraq/index.html
Pence takes swipe at Congress while visiting Iraq to see US troops...
Vice President Mike Pence made an unannounced trip to Iraq to visit US troops ahead of Thanksgiving, landing in the country Saturday amid violent anti-government protests.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191123084617-01-pence-iraq-1123-super-tease.jpg


[24-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50531408

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Pro-democracy group makes huge gains in HK poll
Its candidates attracted support at the expense of pro-Beijing candidates, early results suggest.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/2B3F/production/_109817011_058218521-1.jpg


[24-Nov-19 11:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```However, while Chinese opinions of Japan have improved since their nadir in 2012, the opposite is not the case, with little recovery in the distrust and unfavorable views Japanese hold toward their neighbor.```


[24-Nov-19 11:05 PM] Opponent#3498
gee I wonder why could that be xD


[24-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: Japan is *aggressively* nationalist and refuses to ever accept it did anything wrong.


[24-Nov-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Germany had a church that declared Goring and Goebbels died valiantly and are currently in heaven


[24-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan basically has that.


[24-Nov-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also if it were a common field trip location


[24-Nov-19 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I learned something new. If this is what it takes to not get rolled over by China... :/


[24-Nov-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Korean and Chinese Pokemon fans got really mad when GameFreak staff had a team building outing to Yasakuni Shrine


[24-Nov-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Understandable


[24-Nov-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck with the inmates kindle thing...?


[24-Nov-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america just never ceases with the predatory marketing...


[24-Nov-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[24-Nov-19 11:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/22/new-orleans-hotel-collapse-deported-honduras

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[24-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
on one hand yeah they're simply using the system to get rid of him, on the other, illegals somehow expect to just be ignored forever and are genuinly suprised when they make enemies and suddenly it's not the case.


[24-Nov-19 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and the deportation case was going on since 2016 too, so not only he made enemies, he was already on very, very thin ice even before the incident.


[24-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or you know, we could just, not make a system where people can be exploited like this


[24-Nov-19 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
you can not _make_ a system.


[25-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
but, sure.


[25-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
you can use that as an argument.


[25-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And make an actual system where employers do not get the chance to hire people that can be easily gotten rid of.


[25-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would, of course, require not having a concept of "illegal immigrants"


[25-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
I've listened to a bunch of left stuff on YT over the past few weeks, and I understood something.


[25-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
regardless of context, you have really only 2 options of societal development. Revolution and evolution. The first isn't feasible. The second has extremely delayed effects.


[25-Nov-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any system where it's easy to just grab someone into a trapped condition where you can ruin their life in a heartbeat is going to end up with this exploitative shit where employers fukk over not just their employees, but consumers too.


[25-Nov-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
so, yes. You can _suggest_/_demand_ the changes be made. And they might be eventually. But for the most part, it's all so much hot air.


[25-Nov-19 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
and for personal prosperity, well. Rules don't change no matter where you are. Do what's safe-ish under the current ruleset and keep your head down because while you getting fucked over MIGHT have a measurable positive effect in some cases, you're still getting fucked over and nobody will help or remember you when the headlines go away. Unless you're very lucky and sell your case well enough that there's money/political capital to be made by helping you.


[25-Nov-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
so in essence, gotta make a choice if being your brand of just is worth your everything.


[25-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you respond every time someone says to change society


[25-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
with talking about how HARD that is


[25-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Opponent#3498
because that's the important bit.


[25-Nov-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the while you suggest that it's actually the immigrants' fault


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your argument is disingenuous, I believe.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just don't want to cede the moral high ground.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not the _immigrant's_ fault. It's a person's fault.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is irrelevant.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
no, it is.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You started this by questioning whether the immigrant involved should be blamed for putting themselves in a position to be exploited.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Literally** victim-blaming.


[25-Nov-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
you're trying to shift it back into 'muh moral system that's broke somehow'


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you made the moral fukking argument


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it's entirely practical.


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't just make moral arguments and then pretend you didn't.


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
you want your material well-being for your or your family, or you want to be a martyr.


[25-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
usually those two are mutually exclusive.


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So because someone made a moral choice


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
but was in the wrong position


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
we should blame them?


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of, you know THE COMPANY THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY NEGLIGENT?


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk, man.


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
blame him? Not really. We should learn from him.


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was trapped


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is nothing to be learned


[25-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the only point you could be making here


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to not rokk the boat when you are the exploited minority


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it could come bakk to haunt you


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
so shush up, all you whistleblowers


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well if there's nothing to be learned for you, that's fine.


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
just let society murder people.


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what you implied


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
**heavily**


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well yes. Absolutely.


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
this is my point.


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
you can do it.


[25-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
at your own peril.


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic authoritarian thinking.


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Emphasize how all these people trying to make society better got shafted.


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
See guys, it's hard to change society, SO GO BAKK INSIDE AND BEND OVER AND DIE


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
authoritarian would imply I support this system. I do not. But I also don't have any viable means to oppose it without sacrificing my life.


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't spare a single moment to consider that maybe we should actually do something about the guys getting shafted.


[25-Nov-19 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's like ehhh


[25-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem awfully jumpy to actively emphasize things against acting morally.


[25-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
because it's a luxury.


[25-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A...*luxury*?


[25-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and often you either want to but can't do it safely, or can but don't want to.


[25-Nov-19 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
acting morally and surviving to tell the tale intact is a luxury, yeah.


[25-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
so that's me. On the other hand we have you. 'Take all the wrong things and make them right'.


[25-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
suppose you can do it. Suppose you have a vast amount of social capital to tangibly push the system in some direction. I'm assuming you're a citizen so you can at least vote, and I'll be generous and assume it matters.


[25-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
can this guy do it? Can probably hundreds other illegals that got similarily shafted but haven't recieve any recognition do it?


[25-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
the definition of illegal is being vulnerable to the system and existing purely on it's good graces.


[25-Nov-19 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
they went into this willingly, trying to survive. I can't fault that.


[25-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
but then they kinda forget or ignore that 'good graces' thing. Is it unjust? Does it suck? Oh yeah, you better believe it does.


[25-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
but _it is what it is_, right now, in this very instance.


[25-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
and the very best optimistic prognosis of US future, being electing Sanders, is both time-delayed and highly uncertain.


[25-Nov-19 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
so you can think of what is moral and what is right, and take the high ground when the enemy goes low. Or you can survive.


[25-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a luxury, being able to have both.


[25-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
perhaps a minor one, but a luxury nonetheless. Certainly for illegals it is.


[25-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471851-sanders-billionaires-like-bloomberg-not-going-to-get-very-far-in-this

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[25-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
all I'm getting from that is that because it's hard to do things, don't act or even talk about doing them unless you have loads of money


[25-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
or at least a fucking citizenship...


[25-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
have _something_


[25-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
in the past, this wouldn't be happening


[25-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
there wouldn't be mass deportations whenever illegal immigrants came up with legitimate concerns


[25-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
OSHA standards must be followed, no matter who the construction company hires


[25-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
there's a lot of deportation systems which were only used in specific cases that trump expanded to be used for any case


[25-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
on top of reclassifying refugees as illegal immigrants


[25-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the government made an egregrious error in making a lot of rules and regulations that relied on good faith to run properly, it made it incredibly easy for a single person acting in bad faith (trump) to turn it all around and use it maliciously


[25-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, so, 5 years ago, this situation would turn out different, and the choices made would have been reasonable. Fair enough. Right now, well, not so much. And believe me, I really _hope_ you guys get rid of Trump and his influence as soon as possible. Unlike you, that's only thing I can do.


[25-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
also, yeah. 'Good faith', that's probably my biggest concern with 'rule of law' concept. When you want the law to protect you is often when 'good faith' is in short supply.


[25-Nov-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/de8a8e79d7a640ccbf80e96c79e41828

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Pro-democracy candidates advance in key Hong Kong elections
HONG KONG (AP) — Pro-democracy candidates won nearly half of the seats in Hong Kong’s local elections, according to partial returns Monday, as voters sent a clear signal of support for the...
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[25-Nov-19 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://dce2019.thestandnews.com/ poll results for each district

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2019 區議會選舉專頁 立場新聞
追蹤區議會選舉，緊貼最新選情。


[25-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what are red and yellow?


[25-Nov-19 12:44 AM] ononim#8141
https://techlapse.com/global/youtube-declared-war-on-ad-blockers-no-more-adblock-from-december-10/

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Youtube declared war on Ad Blockers, no more Adblock from December...
From December 10th you will no longer be able to use Adblock on YouTube: the announcement comes from Google itself, which is sending a notification to
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[25-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
probably still can use the more sophisticated ones, that allow you to pick every individual service to block or let through.


[25-Nov-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Nebbie 
red: federation trade unions
yellow: democratic association
green: democratic party
blue: new social association
dark yellow: labour
darl blue: DAB
pink:Qi Jie New Market
teal: Rich new generation
pale yellow: Zhu Kaidi team


[25-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This article is basing its entire premise off of reading the "commercially viable" clause as being about adblokk


[25-Nov-19 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's normally understood to be about "your channel caused negative press coverage, goodbye forever"


[25-Nov-19 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically the democratic association is kicking everyone;s ass right now


[25-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean the Hong Kong Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood (ADPL)?


[25-Nov-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think


[25-Nov-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m just going off what translate gave me for this site


[25-Nov-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the red chairs seem to be folding


[25-Nov-19 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would help if i understood how hong kong catagorizes parties


[25-Nov-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brown: rural party


[25-Nov-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently


[25-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they hav standardized colors


[25-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
these are matching what's on Wikipedia, which shows colors


[25-Nov-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brown is "HK First"


[25-Nov-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile youtube continues flashing giant neon signs that declare "Don't use our service! We're really bad at this, go away! But also give us all the money in your wallets while we sell you to the government!""


[25-Nov-19 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah ok, so yeah the adpl is kicking everyone's ass right now


[25-Nov-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/class-action-lawsuit-roundup-1.5366184


[25-Nov-19 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Nov-19 01:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[25-Nov-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7902f59c504d427ca89a9bd3484a207d

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Pentagon chief fires Navy secretary over SEAL controversy
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Sunday fired the Navy’s top official for allegedly proposing a deal with the White House behind Esper’s back to resolve the matter of a Navy SEAL...
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[25-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
didn't he just say he didn't threaten to resign


[25-Nov-19 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-seals/u-s-navy-secretary-says-he-did-not-threaten-to-resign-in-dispute-with-trump-idUSKBN1XX0NT

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U.S. Navy Secretary says he did not threaten to resign in dispute ...
The U.S. Navy Secretary said on Saturday he did not threaten to resign amid a di...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191123&t=2&i=1455945318&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFAM0QL


[25-Nov-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think he was pushed out by the pentagon after that


[25-Nov-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he went behind the pentagon'sback and they roasted his ass for it, and thne he resigned next day after saying he wasnt

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[25-Nov-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile fox news is spinnign this as meaning edward gallaghers hearing over his trident pin isnt happening anymore


[25-Nov-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d95e83223e034dfda663c917ca6f8509

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Bloomberg entry into presidential race raises ethics issues
NEW YORK (AP) — With Michael Bloomberg now running for president, the news service that bears his name said Sunday it will not “investigate” him or any of his Democratic rivals, and Bloomberg...
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[25-Nov-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I swear he said if he did this before he would fire everyone covering news so it's a step I guess?


[25-Nov-19 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even know what his platform is


[25-Nov-19 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i know is that he runs a news


[25-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trying to be the moderate because Biden isn't doing so well


[25-Nov-19 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so his platform is wallstreet democrat


[25-Nov-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[25-Nov-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah good, anotherold guy yelling out of touch things from a moral pedestal


[25-Nov-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's what we needed more of


[25-Nov-19 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/trump-advisory-board-member-women-should-strive-be-handmaidens-stay-out-workplace

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[25-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
> Right-wing pundit and recently announced Trump advisory board member Clarence Mason Weaver has said that women aren’t equal to men and that they damaged society when they won the “‘right’ to leave the home and go to work.” He has claimed that women who report sexual misconduct at work are the reason “why we don’t want to be around you in a business.” And he has told women that they should carry themselves as “handmaidens” and “be submissive.”


[25-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
> Similarly, in a May video criticizing women for allegedly being “so masculine,” Weaver said: “We don’t care how smart you are. We don’t care how strong you are. We don’t care. It is masculine. You look like a dude. You talk like a dude.”


[25-Nov-19 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
by god that's a hot take


[25-Nov-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
talking "smart" is the same as talking "like a dude"


[25-Nov-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pure cringe.


[25-Nov-19 03:40 AM] illumnious#7938
X doesn't mark the spot: As Millennials and Baby Boomers feud, a generation is left out https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/x-doesn-t-mark-spot-millennials-baby-boomers-feud-generation-n1082381

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X doesn't mark the spot: As Millennials and Baby Boomers feud, a g...
Generation X has largely earned a reputation for being cynical and disconnected politically.
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[25-Nov-19 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
like, literally mush for brains there.


[25-Nov-19 03:41 AM] illumnious#7938
@prism stryder(intexda) I heard about that Roundup weed killer shit on television


[25-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/kenjisalk/status/1198640712129998851

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I hate this with every cell in my body
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[25-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:society:


[25-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
no


[25-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
no no no


[25-Nov-19 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
pure perfection.


[25-Nov-19 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
:dab:


[25-Nov-19 03:51 AM] illumnious#7938
In society we lived


[25-Nov-19 03:51 AM] illumnious#7938
:happyponi:


[25-Nov-19 06:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1198275000073117697

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Yet another editorial mistake? @BBCNews has edited out the audience laughing at Johnson when questioned on trust

The first part is the actual footage, the second is from BBC News at 1pm today

Surley now we all clearly see this propaganda for what it is?

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[25-Nov-19 06:02 AM] jlun2#8758
not sure if its related, but this thing appeared in my recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe-zxYuu8ew

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YOU vs BOOMER
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[25-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.fastcompany.com/90434456/the-trump-administration-is-canceling-lgbtq-people-on-government-websites

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The Trump administration is canceling LGBTQ people on government w...
Numerous government websites have been scrubbed of LGBTQ information, data, and protections.
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[25-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, they're literally just saying "LGB" now


[25-Nov-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
TERF 100


[25-Nov-19 06:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  and if any future politician tries to revert this, it's political suicide right?


[25-Nov-19 06:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feds.


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a formal policy change


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Trump giving orders covertly to officials


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make edits to pages


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
in many cases just plain removing information about policies still in place


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The next president could easily undo it


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, the reason for this is


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that when Trump goes to SCOTUS


[25-Nov-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and tells them trans people aren't protected


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the website info doesn't contradict him


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and SCOTUS has to instead ask wtf his policies are based on


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's to make sure people can't go SEE THE GOV'T WEBSITE SAYS YOU HAV TO DO THIS OR YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the law is still there


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it hasn't changed


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the DOJ just might look the uh, you know, other way


[25-Nov-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
if someone were to uh, break it.


[25-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before, Trump doesn't run the gov't like a business


[25-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
he runs it like a mafia


[25-Nov-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bad one.


[25-Nov-19 06:08 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[25-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Treascair#7785
Nebbie, even the mafia guys are giving Trump the sideeye and going "Get a load of this schmuck, he can't even be subtle"


[25-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471862-giuliani-associate-prepared-to-testify-nunes-aides-scrapped-ukraine-trip-to

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Giuliani associate prepared to testify Nunes aides scrapped Ukrain...
An associate to President Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani is prepared to testify that aides to Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/nunesdevin_112019gn2_lead.jpg


[25-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all so goddamn corrupt that I'm amazed independents are losing support for impeachment.


[25-Nov-19 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to hear Nunes explain why a trip to Ukraine benefits his rural California constituents though


[25-Nov-19 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless he turns up that material evidence he claims to have, I'm suspicious of Parnas actually providing credible info. I mean, the guy has every reason to flip, he's got nothing to lose...but his word's hardly enough


[25-Nov-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I said, a bad one.


[25-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As a totally unrelated aside do you realize how hard a perjury conviction is supposed to be


[25-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Borderline absurd, basically


[25-Nov-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many say Trump is running the gov't as a failing business, but it's actually as a failing mafia.


[25-Nov-19 06:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, Trump's defense is likely going to take all the evidence on the table and try to play it as if Trump had every reason, knowing what he did, to investigate corruption in Ukraine...and is going to play off anything contradictory as irrelevant or something he didn't know about/misremembered


[25-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ukraine was proven not corrupt in May


[25-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None of this shit needed to happen at all


[25-Nov-19 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His defense isn't going to be that he needed to be *correct*, just that there was *some* evidence that Hillary was in with Ukraine


[25-Nov-19 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the specifics don't matter to his defense


[25-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's absolutely zero non John Solomon evidence about that Ukraine conspiracy theory


[25-Nov-19 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
doesn't matter; he believed it


[25-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill, which is a great nonpartisan paper, should be ashamed they ever employed him


[25-Nov-19 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(so the narrative goes)


[25-Nov-19 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's counting on a lack of coverage on "missing" info, like how many foreign nations endorsed his own bid for presidency


[25-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And right wingers get upset that The Hill, which how hires right wing pundits you cannot comment on, edits Solomon's stories for accuracy


[25-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Solomon should testify at the trial


[25-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So should anyone connected with Trump


[25-Nov-19 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To quote Abramson discussing the defense Kennedy revealed, "Trump's defense *hinges* on the idea that *any* public statement of support for Clinton by a Ukrainian official *immediately* legitimized him considering Ukraine to be a 'corrupt' nation his administration would have to investigate."


[25-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember


[25-Nov-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to Sondland


[25-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wanted an announcement of an investigation


[25-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the investigation itself


[25-Nov-19 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
but muh hearsay


[25-Nov-19 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
indeed, and that was backed up in someone else's testimony - not Dr. Hill, whoever it was that testified the same day


[25-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't even understand what hearsay is


[25-Nov-19 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but hey if you don't wanna play around with hearsay, why not ask Trump about the statements he made on Fox & Friends linking the aid being withheld to the corruption investigations


[25-Nov-19 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's so many exceptions to hearsay


[25-Nov-19 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, in the same minute, linking it to crowdstrike


[25-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why the only people who are in Congress should be lawyers, honestly.


[25-Nov-19 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but Its, that doesn't matter because the Dems' entire defense is built on "*triple* hearsay"


[25-Nov-19 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nyeehhhh


[25-Nov-19 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you pass laws without understanding how the law works?


[25-Nov-19 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, you pass laws on the hope that no one else understands how the law works


[25-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well then the idea is that the judiciary that understands the law keeps you from passing absurd stuff


[25-Nov-19 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But now the judiciary is basically a rubber stamp.


[25-Nov-19 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is why McConnell is now wishing on every star that RBG's latest hospitalization sees an encore and soon


[25-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guys, we can't let there be another Lochner era! Therefore we must just have them be completely useless and stuffed with unqualified people.


[25-Nov-19 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if he can just get one more right-wing partisan judge on the bench, it's game over for democracy


[25-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pitlyk is going to be appointed soon


[25-Nov-19 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lifetime appointment, never did anything other than defend someone who slandered Planned Parenthood


[25-Nov-19 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never did voir dire, never was lead counsel on anything


[25-Nov-19 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course this is just district court but it's disgusting


[25-Nov-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/supreme-court-criminalize-immigration-advocacy-sineneng-smith.amp

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The Supreme Court May Criminalize Immigrant Advocacy
https://compote.slate.com/images/9982c887-06ec-42a4-b2df-45ef7d19910c.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=4916x3277&offset=0x0


[25-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, a consultant for some undocumented immigrants committed fraud by intentionally misleading them...but the gov't ALSO charged her for *consulting them at all*


[25-Nov-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that is upheld, then no lawyer can ever do anything for them.


[25-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would essentially mean that ICE could go around killing children without even having to let lawyers *know* about it.


[25-Nov-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who's ready for death camps?


[25-Nov-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://abcnews.go.com/Health/border-patrol-denies-undocumented-immigrants-free-influenza-vaccine/story?id=67237256

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Influenza vaccine denied to border camp detainees
Peak flu season is fast approaching North America and the U.S. government is actively encouraging anyone over 6 months old to vaccinate – that is, unless you are one of the thousands of people being detained in Customs and Border Protection facilities for undocumented entry...
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Health/immigration-01-as-gty-191122_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[25-Nov-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking are you ready for SCOTUS to pave the way for death camps?


[25-Nov-19 07:07 AM] jlun2#8758
searching this up gave "goat’s milk latte" for me. Now I just want to try that.


[25-Nov-19 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently, Parnas *has* provided material evidence to Congress. Huh.


[25-Nov-19 07:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lev-parnas-handed-over-tapes-of-trump-and-giuliani-to-the-house-intelligence-committee-917769/

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Peter Wade
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lev-parnas-handed-over-tapes-of-trump-and-giuliani-to-the-house-intelligence-committee-917769/
Report: Lev Parnas Handed Over Tapes of Trump and Giuliani to the ...
Lordy, there are tapes
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/shutterstock_editorial_7451788an.jpeg


[25-Nov-19 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"his evidence is non-partisan" is an odd way of saying "I was gonna cover for this guy but he didn't return my fanmail"


[25-Nov-19 09:08 AM] Treascair#7785
To wit:  He was reportedly really ticked off when Trump said "Yeah, I don't know who he is"... and there's photos and documented emails and other things going back something like a decade plus


[25-Nov-19 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
so literally this.
```"I was gonna cover for this guy but he didn't return my fanmail"```


[25-Nov-19 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2019/11/youtube-channel-owners-your-content-directed-children?utm_source=govdelivery

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https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2019/11/youtube-channel-owners-your-content-directed-children?utm_source=govdelivery
YouTube channel owners: Is your content directed to children?
Under COPPA, how do I know if my channel is “directed to children”?


[25-Nov-19 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the coppa problems at this point seem to be youtube throwing a bitch fit over losing their ability to track child cookies


[25-Nov-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
most of the coppa problems is it's existance.


[25-Nov-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
like other similar acts it simply needs to be scrapped to be any good.


[25-Nov-19 09:54 AM] Opponent#3498
trying to 'safespace' the internet can only lead to disaster. People tried before.


[25-Nov-19 09:54 AM] Opponent#3498
to disaster for legit creators, that is.


[25-Nov-19 09:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that too. They should scrap coppa and actually go after advertisers with a new law instead of throwing a big security blanket over everyone and tackling cookie grandma to the ground for giving out birthday coupons


[25-Nov-19 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/2003/02/030227msfieldsexhibit.pdf


[25-Nov-19 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the evidence from the cookie grandma case


[25-Nov-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it anyway


[25-Nov-19 11:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I thought here and I find adblock ban a bit scary, because it can be enacted anywhere where adsense present. That way they can ban google accounts outside of YouTube.


[25-Nov-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah google has gone full hostile against it;s userbase


[25-Nov-19 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to the point where it doesnt make sense from a profit standpoint...


[25-Nov-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let's ban literally everyone form using our services, that should net us loads of profit!"


[25-Nov-19 11:20 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Probably the collected data has devalued in the marked.


[25-Nov-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're also throwing a shitfit because the ftc called them on their bullshit


[25-Nov-19 11:21 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The sad part is, 95% won't  be affected.


[25-Nov-19 11:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
By the way,  what's aftermath  of tumblr?


[25-Nov-19 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still anti porn


[25-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yep. Has it lost a lot of traffic?


[25-Nov-19 11:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the good news is the FTC actually bothered toclarify shit, and said that as long as you arent specifically targeting children, you;re probably safe... then again the ftc is confusing and the words of soem admins may not be the policy for the entire orginization...


[25-Nov-19 11:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know what the traffic of tumblr is like


[25-Nov-19 11:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it still hosts a lot fo webcomics most likely


[25-Nov-19 11:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't it was flop on sales side?


[25-Nov-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but that;s because it doesnt cost money to use and it doesn;t have cookie laiden advertising all over the place


[25-Nov-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
verizon is currently still trying to sell it because they don;t want a free to use website in their posession


[25-Nov-19 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and after the porn ban, i imagine advertising on it became harder for social media fastfood chains


[25-Nov-19 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porn hub offered to buy it but verizon said no


[25-Nov-19 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and beyond that i havent paid much attention


[25-Nov-19 11:54 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It has  gone for us anyway.


[25-Nov-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;sprobably msotly used for memes now, like it;s always been...


[25-Nov-19 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, selling to pornhub, while sound financially, would be too much of an ego blow.


[25-Nov-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
> I thought here and I find adblock ban a bit scary


[25-Nov-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
that was very clearly not what they meant by "not commercially viable"


[25-Nov-19 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
what they meant was "you uploaded something that generated negative press for us, goodbye"


[25-Nov-19 05:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe YouTube is finally going to defeat PewDiePie


[25-Nov-19 06:04 PM] Opponent#3498
then don't, because hell will freeze over before that happens.


[25-Nov-19 06:25 PM] wumbl3#3333
You think they care what'll happen?

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[25-Nov-19 06:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/esper-spencer-aftermath/index.html

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Esper says Trump ordered him to allow Gallagher to keep his Triden...
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said President Donald Trump ordered him to allow a controversial Navy SEAL accused of war crimes to keep his status in the elite service, despite resistance from Navy leaders.
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[25-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So on COPPA


[25-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
the fundamental problem is it's a privacy protection law


[25-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
but instead of protecting everyone's privacy


[25-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
it uses an arbitrary age cutoff


[25-Nov-19 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Before the magic age (13), NO DATA EVER UNLESS PARENTS SIGN A THING


[25-Nov-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
After the magic age, ALL DATA EVER LET'S SELL IT ALL TO CHINA


[25-Nov-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
How do you know whether someone's 12 or 13 on the internet?


[25-Nov-19 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
You **don't**.


[25-Nov-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with people for which no data must ever be collected mixed with people for which all the data can be collected willy-nilly.


[25-Nov-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad on both sides.


[25-Nov-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you arrive at the problem of deciding whether something is *targeting* children...which shouldn't be a thing at all.


[25-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
This idea that content made to be family-friendly has to be in a wrapper that disallows getting data out of children, but content for adults shouldn't, is crazy.


[25-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, you can't do this kind of age-hinging.


[25-Nov-19 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it puts creators in a bind cause they might take measures to prevent being too adult...only to then be too *non*-adult.


[25-Nov-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's censorship in both directions, which is just stupid.


[25-Nov-19 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC should've never made the deal it did with YouTube.


[25-Nov-19 07:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50539795

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Web inventor attacks Tories over misinformation
Sir Tim Berners-Lee tells the BBC the renaming of a Conservative Twitter account was "unbelievable".
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[25-Nov-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUX-frlNBJY

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CGP Grey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUX-frlNBJY
The Sneaky Plan to Subvert the Electoral College for the Next Election
Footnote: https://youtu.be/6JN4RI7nkes Thank you, my patrons, for making this video possible: https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=227816 Special thanks: Ameli...
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[25-Nov-19 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
TOP SNEAKY


[25-Nov-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.wgcu.org/post/economists-say-forgiving-student-debt-would-boost-economy

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Economists Say Forgiving Student Debt Would Boost Economy
Presidential hopefuls Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders want to tear up your student loans and set you financially free. That's popular among voters
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[25-Nov-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Wow what a fucking surprise


[25-Nov-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Thanks economists you really taught me something


[25-Nov-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
america_irl https://i.redd.it/wigsk8yivt041.jpg

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[25-Nov-19 07:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
"wow who would'a thought freeing up money would increase consumer spending wow"


[25-Nov-19 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/high-out-of-pocket-costs-can-make-lifesaving-medications-out-of-reach-for-millions-of-americans-with-cardiovascular-disease?preview=7d5f

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High out-of-pocket costs can make lifesaving medications out of re...
Research Highlights: One in 8 adults with common heart diseases skip medications, delay filling prescriptions or take less medication than prescribed because of concerns about cost. Not taking medications as prescribed because of cost is 3 times more...
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[25-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
https://imgur.com/gallery/dB1Zinh

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Let's be clear...
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[25-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
it's all socialism


[25-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
no question


[25-Nov-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
damn socialists trying to ruin OUR GOOD, GOD-FEARIN' COUNTRY


[25-Nov-19 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[25-Nov-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I actually do want open borders but this describes most people better


[25-Nov-19 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm a bit of an edge case


[25-Nov-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1198001458773450752

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NowThis (@nowthisnews)
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1198001458773450752
‘If Facebook were around in the 1930s, it would have allowed Hitler to post 30-second ads’ — Listen to Sacha Baron Cohen slam the social media industry for facilitating the spread of hate, lies, and conspiracies https://t.co/QinOnNRvxv
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Twitter


[25-Nov-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, that discord embed audio quality is trash


[25-Nov-19 09:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://mothership.sg/2019/11/pope-francis-japan/

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Kayla Wong
https://mothership.sg/2019/11/pope-francis-japan/
Pope dons traditional coat with anime image of his face to greet t...
Cool Japan.
https://mothership.sg/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/pope-happi-japan.jpg


[25-Nov-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
why political tho


[25-Nov-19 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ysXm31w

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Intimidation 101
https://i.imgur.com/OCioNrsh.jpg


[25-Nov-19 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/trump-advisory-board-member-women-should-strive-be-handmaidens-stay-out-workplace

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Trump advisory board member: Women should strive to be “handmaid...
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[25-Nov-19 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's an incel in the fucking white house


[25-Nov-19 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just...


[25-Nov-19 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*lego yoda death sound*


[25-Nov-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's like 20 incels in the white house right now


[25-Nov-19 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
so how likely is it they'll rollback civil rights by 50 years


[25-Nov-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m just hoping for mitch or trump to suffer a heart attack...


[25-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not THAT old. And I'd think at least _they_ have good healthcare available.


[25-Nov-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's diet is consistantly fast food


[25-Nov-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
oh.


[25-Nov-19 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[25-Nov-19 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he;s in his 70's and i think mitch is in his 80's


[25-Nov-19 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  my headcannon is this
Me and people I like: Regardless of what you do , you get slammed with medical problems every year
People I hate: Live to 120 even if they smoke 20 packs a day and binge on fast food because 🖕


[25-Nov-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh mitch is 77


[25-Nov-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought he was like 82


[25-Nov-19 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
and yes I have medical problems every year. same with the people I follow oddly


[25-Nov-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i probably have all kinds of medical problems right now, but i have no medical coverage so i cant get that checked


[25-Nov-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have constant headaches which probably isnt a good sign


[25-Nov-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/navy-secretary-richard-spencer-fired-dispute-over-discipline-seal-n1090306

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Navy Secretary Richard Spencer fired in dispute over discipline of...
Spencer opposed President Donald Trump's order that Chief Petty Officer Eddie Gallagher remain in the elite SEALs.
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[25-Nov-19 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
'"In regards to the key principle of good order and discipline, I cannot in good conscience obey an order that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family, my flag and my faith to support and defend the Constitution of the United States."'


[25-Nov-19 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For a moment i read the headline and almost had a heart attack thinking Trump had appointed a nazi to a top navy post


[25-Nov-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt put it past him just yet...


[25-Nov-19 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it would upset the laterals, he would probably do it in a heart beat


[25-Nov-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Petty officer indeed


[25-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/471966-national-enquirer-company-chief-speaks-with-new-york-prosecutors-in-trump-org#

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National Enquirer company chief speaks with New York prosecutors i...
David Pecker, chairman of American Media Inc., has reportedly spoken to federal prosecutors in New York about his company's involvement in the Trump Organization's payments to women who came forward alleging affairs with President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_112019getty.jpg


[25-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Federal prosecutors drill Trump's Pecker"


[25-Nov-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
That's the Daily Mail headline


[25-Nov-19 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/white-house-emails-ukraine-aid

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Emails Show the White House Knew Trump Was Extorting Ukraine
Staff, including Mick Mulvaney, scrambled to justify the hold on nearly $400 million in aid in exchange for investigations.
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[25-Nov-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/hsu_spencer/status/1199098572022730752

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https://twitter.com/hsu_spencer/status/1199098572022730752
BREAKING Judge rules ex-White House counsel Donald McGahn must comply with House subpoena in impeachment inquiry, as Trump's claim that top aides have 'absolute immunity' against testifying triggers a historic separation-of-powers confrontation.  Bkgrd: https://t.co/9KeWGb...
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[26-Nov-19 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-Nov-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
gonna cry? piss your pants?


[26-Nov-19 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe shit and cum?


[26-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/don-mcgahn-house-subpoena-impeachment/index.html

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Federal judge says former White House counsel Don McGahn must spea...
A federal judge decided Monday that President Donald Trump's former White House counsel Don McGahn must testify to the House of Representatives in its impeachment probe.
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[26-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WH / DoJ is already appealing, so, another useless delay


[26-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[26-Nov-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/471993-supreme-court-stays-house-subpoena-for-trump-financial-records

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Supreme Court stays House subpoena for Trump financial records
The Supreme Court on Monday granted President Trump’s request to temporarily stay a subpoena for his financial records from the House Oversight Committee, while the court considers whether to take up his appeal in the case.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/surveys_trumpdonald_112219getty.jpg


[26-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note '"Indeed," she added, "absolute testimonial immunity for senior-level White House aides appears to be a fiction that has been fastidiously maintained over time through the force of sheer repetition in (Office of Legal Counsel) opinions, and through accommodations that have permitted its proponents to avoid having the proposition tested in the crucible of litigation."'


[26-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is saying the OLC is full of horseshit.


[26-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Note that she said that it has been full of shit for five decades and that "presidents are not kings"


[26-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said many times, judges mince words, you hav to really realize how intense this kind of thing actually is.


[26-Nov-19 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She cites de Toqueville ffs


[26-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
A federal judge basically just said not only is the OLC full of shit, but the OLC has no real authority.


[26-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really sad when people call someone a X judge, X being the president


[26-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a huge blow to Trumpers.


[26-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of these people are principled jurists that are above party


[26-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of them


[26-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also note


[26-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
this explicitly says that when subpeonad


[26-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can assert privilege on specific things


[26-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but **cannot** assert it from appearing at all


[26-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, every subpeonad official *must* come before congress.


[26-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That completely shreds Trump's strategy.


[26-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause even if he had an official assert privilege on every single question, it would look ridiculous.


[26-Nov-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah well of course you can assert on specific things


[26-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point is to prevent them testifying at all because that way, you can from a distance assert the whole thing is illegitimate and they're grasping at straws


[26-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you are actually legally required to send people, that evaporates


[26-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly it looks legitimate to your average dumb voter.


[26-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder why support for impeachment is dropping


[26-Nov-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you're the one who looks like you're being illegitimate by saying EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE fifty times as testimony.


[26-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking winter.


[26-Nov-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How does that work


[26-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eating less fish, staying indoors, and a general feeling that resources are sparse.


[26-Nov-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning people turn inward and want the gov't only doing the most important stuff.


[26-Nov-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was July, everyone would be screaming for Trump's head.


[26-Nov-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess.


[26-Nov-19 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1197896223870447616

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A racist white man beat down and stomped on a defenseless muslim woman who is 38 WEEKS PREGNANT in a cafe in Sydney, Australia all while shouting anti-muslim and islamophobic slurs at her 💔

I'm in tears

THIS IS NOT OK! https://t.co/Thwaw2UTGd
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[26-Nov-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/69974c87c5d34cc68dba1db02b794f16

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Germany calls for UN access to Chinese detention camps
BERLIN (AP) — Germany says China should give U.N. human rights officials unhindered access to camps in its western region of Xinjiang, after leaked documents indicated they are used to forcibly...
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[26-Nov-19 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in other news, the ambassador of china, called germany a bunch of phucking dicks and threatened "punishment" against them


[26-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The fuck are they going to do? Not manufacture any more electronics?


[26-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...oh right


[26-Nov-19 03:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Also @ononim fucking hell, that tweet 😔


[26-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ilG6BmB.jpg

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[26-Nov-19 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/nV9oyOR.jpg

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[26-Nov-19 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-says-hes-rooting-for-russia-in-conflict-with-ukraine-then-claims-hes-joking

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Tucker Carlson Says He's Rooting for Russia in Conflict With Ukrai...
The Fox News host said he was “serious” when he initially insisted he was rooting for Russia, only to walk it back at the end of the show.
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[26-Nov-19 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
"I'm only joking bro, don't take it so seriously ;)"


[26-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Nov-19 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
another one


[26-Nov-19 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
I don't understand why republicans are doing this, it doesn't make any sense to praise dictators and oppression unless that's what they want to bring to the US


[26-Nov-19 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.inquisitr.com/5760237/donald-trump-god-chosen-one-rick-perry/

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https://www.inquisitr.com/5760237/donald-trump-god-chosen-one-rick-perry/
Donald Trump Is God’s ‘Chosen One’ To Be President, Says Ric...
On Sunday’s Fox & Friends on Fox News, the network previewed an interview with Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, who will soon depart his position. During the clip, Perry suggested God chose ...
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[26-Nov-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans only oppose dictatorships when doing so is necessary to construct enemies.


[26-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment that a dictatorship is in a position Republicans can work with and even copy it for personal gain, they work with it.


[26-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They opposed the Soviet Union because it was highly detrimental to their personal wealth.


[26-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia as it is now is not.


[26-Nov-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is also why they still consider China an enemy, even tho it's rather similar


[26-Nov-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
While China is mostly capitalist now, it does so in a way that competes with US business interests.


[26-Nov-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans only want to work with China if it's lining their pokketbooks...such as if it simply invests to sneak into control of US stuff, rather than trying to replace US companies in market positions.


[26-Nov-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, you are not going to get mainstream Republicans to say Blizzard or the NBA or such did something wrong. They will however cry foul about Huawei all day long.


[26-Nov-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that they necessarily want dictators and oppression here, it's that they want whatever puts them on top, which happens to be either dictators and oppression, or at least their money.


[26-Nov-19 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/schiff-donald-trump-impeach-report-articles-democrats

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The House Intelligence Committee Said It Has The Evidence It Needs...
The House Intelligence Committee says it now has evidence that “conclusively” shows Trump withheld support from Ukraine in exchange for investigations that would help him politically.
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[26-Nov-19 09:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's god's chosen one alright. chosen to fuck shit up from the inside...


[26-Nov-19 09:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what i love is that they say that with the confidence that god would choose him because he would be a "good" president, and that god didnt choose him because he would be shit and bring a majority of the country together to stand against him...


[26-Nov-19 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless god would choose him because he thought he would be a good president, in which case maybe we should never go with god;s plan again....


[26-Nov-19 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Nov-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/11f29f54dad2448dabc357b3836fb247

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Trump’s actions raise concern about role in military justice
WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Secretary Mark Esper declared that President Donald Trump ordered him to stop a disciplinary review of a Navy SEAL accused of battlefield misconduct, an intervention that...
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[26-Nov-19 03:49 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2019-11-25_v_rossii_pridumali_virtualnuyu

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Российским коровам подменили стрес...
Российские ученые разработали устройство виртуальной реальности для коров. Оно призвано снижать уровень стресса...
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[26-Nov-19 03:49 PM] ononim#8141
Russian cows are getting vr


[26-Nov-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
to reduss stress and increase productivity

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[26-Nov-19 03:50 PM] ononim#8141
trully a cyberpunk future


[26-Nov-19 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_flashbacks to that Pearl Jam music video_


[26-Nov-19 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI#

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Pearl Jam - Do the Evolution (Official Video)
Check out the official music video for "Do the Evolution" by Pearl Jam Best of Pearl Jam: https://goo.gl/BkNEZB Subscribe here: https://goo.gl/RfhrD2 Music v...
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[26-Nov-19 06:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472090-obama-privately-said-he-would-speak-up-to-stop-sanders-report

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Obama privately said he would speak up to stop Sanders: report
President Obama privately said he would speak up to stop Sen.
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[26-Nov-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Thanks Obama


[26-Nov-19 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.newser.com/story/283454/biden-mixes-it-up-with-immigration-activists.html

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Biden to Protester: 'You Should Vote for Trump'
Joe Biden was confronted by activists at Lander University in South Carolina
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[26-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/jdforward/status/1199342557047603212?s=20

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What's your most controversial opinion on Judaism?
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[26-Nov-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pictures Taken Seconds Before Disaster


[26-Nov-19 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The dances are pretty cool


[26-Nov-19 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"idk man but those curly hair thingies they use are kinda ugly"


[26-Nov-19 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
-Adolf Hitler


[26-Nov-19 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Exclusive-Trump-s-top-border-official-broke-14864340.php?utm_campaign=CMS+Sharing+Tools+%28Premium%29&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

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Exclusive: Trump's top border official broke FBI rules to fund hap...
The previously unreported finding raises questions about the Trump administration’s vetting process for top officials. The Customs and Border Protection commissioner’s post is subject to Senate confirmation, but President Trump has not formally nominated Mark Morgan for t...
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[26-Nov-19 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"drain the swamp"


[26-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't drain the swamp if you are the swamp


[26-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[26-Nov-19 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/sovietblobfish/status/1199405719222718464

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🌈sovietblobfish🌈 (@sovietblobfish)
https://twitter.com/sovietblobfish/status/1199405719222718464
such a useful term
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[26-Nov-19 08:53 PM] Opponent#3498
normally defined as 'promise people everything at once, regardless of feasibility or common sense'


[26-Nov-19 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and, yeah. It's vague enough that you can label literally anyone with it.


[26-Nov-19 09:01 PM] Opponent#3498
one of the fan favourites here.


[26-Nov-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
probably because everyone promises everything with little to no intent to deliver.


[26-Nov-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Populism I would define a bit more narrowly as not being about promises made, or even making a lot of them, it's more about going with what's popular with little regard to good epistemiology (proven science).


[26-Nov-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This gets dicey with economics (very, very little in economics is verifiable by design, because economists are often chosen by politics primarily), but it's easier to see a difference in other matters.


[26-Nov-19 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-bernie-sanders-2020-nomination_n_5ddd31a1e4b00149f724793b?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9tLmh1ZmZwb3N0LmNvbS91cy9lbnRyeS8xMDc5OTA5OC9hbXA&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC5UhttrSoMQn6nvLcQsPPURn3GhmhsudyqHdRYhS-pkhG6X90fbU4S5yNUhctqzbGevP5h1yuE1_6zpNbNhuH7AzRo1cAW4npA4JcUuCrrPNbg9vBnXx23uYQhE6ipjGdglICEtPP3QllHo-DsZ3YbAjrqYDxAWuvt4k4HiQbQI

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Obama Said He Would Speak Up To Stop Bernie Sanders Nomination: Report
"Bernie's not a Democrat," one close adviser to the former president told Politico.
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[26-Nov-19 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
aight, I will repost this a few hours later then nebbie is finished


[26-Nov-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably the biggest thing under populism is about pardoning people for crimes they clearly committed which have tangible harmful effects, with only the populace saying the crimes were okay.


[26-Nov-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and the converse, trying to go after people for crimes that don't seem to hav any actual evidence, or aren't even crimes to begin with)


[26-Nov-19 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/ca12k2qbUQM

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https://youtu.be/ca12k2qbUQM
Lawyer Examines Impeachment Defenses (Real Law Review)
What defenses do the Trump Administration defenders have left? Get 3 months of Audible for just $6.95 a month (That’s half off!). Just text legaleagle to 500...
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[26-Nov-19 09:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/26/birmingham-anti-lgbt-school-protests-judge-ban-permanent

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Birmingham anti-LGBT school protesters had 'misinterpreted' teachi...
High court rules that exclusion zone around Anderton Park primary will remain in place
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[26-Nov-19 09:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ban is permanent. They can't protest anymore.


[26-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472148-biden-retakes-lead-buttigieg-surpasses-warren-for-second-place-poll

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Buttigieg surges to second place behind Biden as Warren sinks: poll
Former Vice President Joe Biden retook the national lead in the Democratic primary in a new Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday as South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Butt
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/iowa_buttigiegpete_warrenelizabeth_bidenjoe_sandersbernie_110819getty.jpg


[26-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We're gonna have a first gentleman before we have a woman president, amazing


[26-Nov-19 10:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 Warren sinks because all of her supporters gave their support to Bloomberg in the 100-person opinion polls.


[26-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/healthtrending/theres-something-terribly-wrong-americans-are-dying-young-at-alarming-rates/ar-BBXmP82

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‘There’s something terribly wrong’: Americans are dying youn...
A massive study of U.S. mortality shows a grim trend in life expectancy across racial lines.


[26-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are, indirectly, killing Millennials.


[26-Nov-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
To the point it has made US life expectancy go down for 3 years straight.


[26-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. I'm beginning to question the BMI thing.


[26-Nov-19 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
like, take me. According to the calculator, I'm at... borderline obesity? 29.5. And I did neglect myself for a bit, and I do indeed stand to exercise a little bit, if for no other reason than to leave a prettier corpse.


[26-Nov-19 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
but, looking at the chart... if I ever weigh at 65kg it's suggesting as 'borderline normal', it means I'm probably dying. And/or recovering from a severe near-death trauma and months of forced bed rest.


[26-Nov-19 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
like, no way this would ever be remotely healthy.


[26-Nov-19 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
it feels like yet another statistics trick that's supposed to make life easier but in the end paints a very distorted picture.


[26-Nov-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
BMI was not scientifically designed.


[26-Nov-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's vaguely in the realm of being right about what's healthy, but only really in direction, specific numbers it might be completely wrong about.


[26-Nov-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its near-universal adoption is one of the big ways medicine fukked up in the modern era.


[26-Nov-19 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
you need to control for normal on your height, weight, and body fat %


[26-Nov-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
high BMI with low body fat % is indicative of strong mucles


[26-Nov-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
and is healthy


[26-Nov-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's a much better representation than the ultra-simplistic one that's generally presented.


[26-Nov-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
oh and sex as well


[26-Nov-19 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
"normal" BMIs are different between the sexes


[26-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
given that I'm 183cm and 75kg my BMI is 22.4


[26-Nov-19 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
this is a bit unrealistic


[26-Nov-19 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
on a scale of emaciated to your mom I'm much closer in body fat to your mom


[26-Nov-19 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[26-Nov-19 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://voices.clickhole.com/i-put-on-a-fat-suit-to-understand-what-it-s-like-to-be-1825123999

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I Put On A Fat Suit To Understand What It’s Like To Be Your Mom
As a thin, conventionally attractive woman, there’s no denying that society affords me privileges that aren’t extended to everyone. I’ve always been aware of this to some extent, but I’ve never truly grasped just how difficult life can be for people who don’t have t...
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[27-Nov-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/11/26/food-fight-terrible-indian-cuisine-tweet-went-global-column/4304351002/

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I tweeted that I couldn't stand Indian cuisine and started an inte...
We have a world in which someone like me can become a story and send thousands of people into heated arguments over nothing. We're now Planet Seinfeld.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/11/26/USAT/29d1fac9-1225-4b23-baaa-98b8550be1b9-indian_food.JPG?crop=4599,2587,x0,y153&width=3200&height=1801&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[27-Nov-19 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
>tfw ```I now live in a strange world where the fairest coverage I got was from a press outlet that I think is a hostile arm of the Russian government.```


[27-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of RT's tactics is to do honest coverage of anything that's on its face a bad look for Russia's enemies, so they often cover US stories without even bothering to put a spin on things.


[27-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It helps them when they need to put spin on Russia to look good and such.


[27-Nov-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, if you always lie, people stop believing you, but if you lie strategically, most people will never know.


[27-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
true.


[27-Nov-19 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
note that the reason voters went for trump is not because they didn't know he was a liar


[27-Nov-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
he did lie all the time and nobody believed what he was saying at face value, they were just thrilled at the idea they could be justified in supporting openly racist policies


[27-Nov-19 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
which has, you know, happened.


[27-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy turned what would be a normal "dude people totally only pretend to like X because I can't understand different tastes" into casual racism


[27-Nov-19 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All he had to add in was that curry makes you smell.


[27-Nov-19 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I am told that spicy food releases endorphins and dopamine. Personally, I think of food as pleasure, not as a test of character, and at dinner I am not trying to trigger my brain into releasing natural painkillers."


[27-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
...this isn't racist though?


[27-Nov-19 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're a drug addict if you like spicy food, guys.


[27-Nov-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile is likely addicted to mucinex IIRC.


[27-Nov-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did I just see a Bloomberg ad in fucking Missouri?


[27-Nov-19 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Talk about throwing money down the toilet.


[27-Nov-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/370-wework-will-set-you-free-112519

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https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/370-wework-will-set-you-free-112519
370 - WeWork Will Set You Free (11/25/19)
Amber talks us through the saga of WeWork, another in a long line of dumb tech start ups headed by a dumber leader emblematic of our dumbest economy. We then help talk you through some potential polit
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[27-Nov-19 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
I love the WeWork story so fucking much


[27-Nov-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1199135926955466753

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https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1199135926955466753
Tucker: "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am." https://t.co/OQopoxPYD9
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Twitter


[27-Nov-19 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tucker Carlson is becoming nazbol


[27-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Said it was a joke to own the libs


[27-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472205-trump-denies-sending-giuliani-to-ukraine-on-his-behalf#

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Trump denies sending Giuliani to Ukraine on his behalf
President Trump on Tuesday denied directing his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, to go to Ukraine on his behalf amid scrutiny as part of the ongoing House impeachment inquiry.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/giulianirudy_trumpdonald_getty.jpg


[27-Nov-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Insurance policy now


[27-Nov-19 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[27-Nov-19 03:58 AM] illumnious#7938

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[27-Nov-19 04:03 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh

Trump: Pardoned Thanksgiving turkeys have 'already received subpoenas' https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-pardoned-thanksgiving-turkeys-have-already-received-subpoenas-n1091906

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Trump: Pardoned Thanksgiving turkeys have 'already received subpoenas'
At the annual White House event Tuesday, the president joked that the birds had been summoned "to appear in Adam Schiff's basement on Thursday."
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[27-Nov-19 04:04 AM] illumnious#7938
He’s making a joke?
Since when

Trump jokes that the pardoned turkeys have already received subpoenas https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/trump-jokes-that-the-pardoned-turkeys-have-already-received-subpoenas-74116165919

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Trump: The turkeys have 'already received subpoenas' from Adam Schiff
President Trump joked that the turkeys he is pardoning, Bread and Butter, have "already received subpoenas" from Rep. Adam Schiff to testify in the impeachment inquiry.
https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/201911/trump_hand.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[27-Nov-19 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472211-trump-vows-not-to-rename-thanksgiving-were-not-changing-it

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Trump at rally vows to supporters no name change for 'Thanksgiving'
President Trump claimed at his rally Tuesday night that some people want to rename Thanksgiving, telling supporters "we're not changing it."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldrally_112619getty_0.jpg


[27-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE'LL STOP THE INVASION OF KHANNUKUH


[27-Nov-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THOSE LIBERALS DON'T KILL THE EASTER BUNNY


[27-Nov-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
FINALLY, THE DREADED MINI PUMPKINS WILL BE ILLEGAL. YOU HEAR ME? EEE. LEE. GULL.


[27-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I only go out of my way to say Happy Holidays to people who I know will get upset by it


[27-Nov-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should ask them if they're going to enjoy Khannukuh.


[27-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if they say no, wish them Happy Holidays.


[27-Nov-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twist the knife.


[27-Nov-19 08:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey what was that one political alignment test we used all the time?


[27-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are like 3


[27-Nov-19 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
or more


[27-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you want the shitty square, the big set of continuums, the label percents, or another?


[27-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note about the square


[27-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't that it doesn't put you somewhere


[27-Nov-19 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the bottom right doesn't actually exist.


[27-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's highly deceptive.


[27-Nov-19 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the bottom right being libertarianism)


[27-Nov-19 08:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, I found the one I was thinking of https://8values.github.io/index.html


[27-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the big set of continuums


[27-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems to hav some major inaccuracies around reformism.


[27-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And its questions are poorly translated from French IIRC.


[27-Nov-19 09:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50568812

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US to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists
The announcement prompted Mexico to request an urgent meeting with US officials.
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[27-Nov-19 09:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Bill O'Reilly asked President Trump on Tuesday whether he was going to designate the cartels as terror groups and "start hitting them with drones".

The president said: "They will be designated... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process."

He added that he had told Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador that the US was willing to launch operations against the cartels inside Mexico.`


[27-Nov-19 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
```He’s making a joke?
Since when```


[27-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
a broken clock is right at least _once_ per day.


[27-Nov-19 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
although monkeys and typewriters would be the better analogy here I think.


[27-Nov-19 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
yes, trump is the entertainment version of an infinite set of monkeys throwing shit at the wall and accidentally painting the mona lisa, he just throws shit out until something sticks


[27-Nov-19 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
the directors of his apprentice show said that they had to take a shitload of footage to get trump to look coherent, but what they managed to get was incredible


[27-Nov-19 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/423142-apprentice-producer-says-they-struggled-to-make-trump-seem-coherent

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'Apprentice' producer says they 'struggled to make Trump seem cohe...
A TV producer who oversaw the first five seasons of President Trump's former reality television show “The Apprentice” says those working behind the scenes often “struggled to make Trump seem coherent.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/celebrityapprentice.jpg


[27-Nov-19 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/how-mark-burnett-resurrected-donald-trump-as-an-icon-of-american-success

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How Mark Burnett Resurrected Donald Trump as an Icon of American S...
With “The Apprentice,” the TV producer mythologized Trump—then a floundering D-lister—as the ultimate titan, paving his way to the Presidency.
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[27-Nov-19 10:39 AM] Opponent#3498
```“The Apprentice” was about “what makes America great,” Burnett said. “Everybody wants one of a few things in this country. They’re willing to pay to lose weight. They’re willing to pay to grow hair. They’re willing to pay to have sex. And they’re willing to pay to learn how to get rich.”```


[27-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm reading this, and, the ultimate mystery is whether or not Trump said the **dreaded N-word**


[27-Nov-19 11:12 AM] Opponent#3498
jesus f christ seriously...


[27-Nov-19 11:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump before becoming president was notorious for jsut throwing out racist shit in interviews


[27-Nov-19 11:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like saying he doesn;t trust black accountants


[27-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
``` “There is something to being American and having these visceral reactions that Mark doesn’t have,” she said. “He just doesn’t get it on that level. I don’t think he has the same sense of Oh, my God, what have I done?” For many Americans, the Trump Presidency evokes a painful feeling of dispossession, as cherished norms and national institutions are eviscerated.```


[27-Nov-19 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
for the rest of the world, it's Tuesday xD


[27-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I have no doubt he actually said plenty of things over the years, some of which on tape. The thing is, I wouldn't ever expect it to be relevant. Especially compared what his _actions_ are.


[27-Nov-19 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
or, were back in the day, because it apparently wasn't ever any better.


[27-Nov-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kind of relevent since it was telling how he would act as president


[27-Nov-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/95690f619caf44d9b70970431d9cd5ca

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US criticizes China for abuses revealed by leaked cables
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Tuesday that a cache of leaked documents proves that Chinese authorities are engaged in massive and systemic repression of Muslims and other...
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[27-Nov-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess trump is going to throw pompeo under the bus next to please xi jinpooh?


[27-Nov-19 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/afce9604b73f48d9990f3a56e3c60f57

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China says it has met its carbon reduction goal early
BEIJING (AP) — China has realized its 2020 target for reducing carbon emissions ahead of schedule, the ecology and environment ministry reported Wednesday. The ministry said China’s CO2...
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[27-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Opponent#3498
```The papers also show how Beijing is pioneering a new form of social control using data and artificial intelligence. Drawing on data collected by mass surveillance technology, computers issued the names of tens of thousands of people for interrogation or detention in just one week.

Pompeo said the documents should encourage other countries to come forward with their concerns.```


[27-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, how to license these systems from the chinese.


[27-Nov-19 11:24 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the dream for old West.


[27-Nov-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good more data sales


[27-Nov-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and broken bots


[27-Nov-19 11:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we already have all of this in a half assed manner


[27-Nov-19 11:29 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well, apparently they worked out the kinks.


[27-Nov-19 11:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china did, america is still going to half ass it


[27-Nov-19 11:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that;s what america does best


[27-Nov-19 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also several states have already banned the use of facial recognition street cameras


[27-Nov-19 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a730d4aa93d143f6a42e21e0420a65f3

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Trump campaign, GOP groups attack Google’s new ad policy
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign and other Republican election groups criticized tech giant Google on Tuesday for making it harder for political advertisers to target...
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[27-Nov-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in other words, you gotta fuckin work for it if you want your incredibly specific message heard, no more of this buying up ad space bullshit


[27-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/5EOQ38E

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What fine friends the President has.
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[27-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Crow#5457
> Nothing says NATO ally like using your brand new Russian hardware to practice shooting down US jets.


[27-Nov-19 12:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/rkFdari.png

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[27-Nov-19 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't Iran have F-16s


[27-Nov-19 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah no, F-14s


[27-Nov-19 12:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Israel has plenty of F-16s, though


[27-Nov-19 12:32 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_Ue3t17l0

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The Citizen Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_Ue3t17l0
[YTP] Good Old P.U.
A nice fireside chat with Dennis and his Prager pals. Also, no, I'm not dead. OR AM I?????
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rG_Ue3t17l0/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Nov-19 12:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it's memetic and not really political but still.


[27-Nov-19 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
earrape though, at times.


[27-Nov-19 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.indystar.com/amp/4282653002?__twitter_impression=true


[27-Nov-19 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Nov-19 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Nov-19 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://note.com/tomomishimizu/n/n4cade047aed8

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「What has happened to me」~A testimony of a Uyghur woman~｜清...
「What has happened to me」~A testimony of a Uyghur woman~
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[27-Nov-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-expected-to-sign-womens-suffrage-bill/

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Trump signs bill to honor women's suffrage
The $1 silver coins will be issued throughout 2020 — a year when Americans could elect their first female president
https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2019/11/25/275bed4a-e554-4409-b281-ca6e98c96a37/thumbnail/1200x630/4092c0e1a5a4554288712ddd419c05be/gettyimages-1184720765.jpg


[27-Nov-19 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta love the sub-headline.


[27-Nov-19 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
``` a year when Americans could elect their first female president```


[27-Nov-19 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
subtly implying 2016 was decided before it began


[27-Nov-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump also wondered why this commemoration wasn;t a long time ago completely missing the definition of centennial


[27-Nov-19 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
oh.


[27-Nov-19 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I missed that too.


[27-Nov-19 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1199181946166874112

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1199181946166874112
"I'm curious why wasn't it done a long time ago? And also, I guess the answer to that is because now I'm president, we get things done."

President Trump signs the Woman's Suffrage Centennial Coin Act. https://t.co/jkcOCzQyNa
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[27-Nov-19 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/11/jim-jordan-was-imposed-on-us-for-egregiously-partisan-reasons-now-hes-afflicting-the-nation.html

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Jim Jordan was imposed on us for egregiously partisan reasons. Now...
Everything about Jim Jordan reeks of a man willing to cast aside common decency and fairness in service of a corrupt and cruel president. He may be the most unfit man to ever represent part of Greater Cleveland in Congress, writes Brent Larkin.
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[27-Nov-19 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472266-former-mlb-player-aubrey-huff-teaching-his-children-how-to-use

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Former MLB player Aubrey Huff says he's teaching his children abou...
Former Major League Baseball player Aubrey Huff weighed in on the 2020 presidential race, saying he is teaching his children how to shoot guns in case President Trump loses his 2020 reelection bid to Democratic hopeful Sen.
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[27-Nov-19 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I am teaching my child to be a domestic terrorist in case my side loses."


[27-Nov-19 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/472268-tax-and-loan-documents-for-trump-tower-show-inconsistencies-report#

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Tax and loan documents for Trump Tower show inconsistencies: report
President Trump's business reported different information in tax and loan documents about the occupancy rate of Trump Tower in Manhattan, ProPublica reported Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumptower01092019_1.jpg


[27-Nov-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Mark Fuckerberg destroys democracy again https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/27/facebook-only-dutch-factchecker-quits-over-political-ad-exemption

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Facebook's only Dutch factchecker quits over political ad exemption
‘Final straw’ was refusal to allow partner to mark dubious claims by far-right parties
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[27-Nov-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-clarkson-greta-thunberg-car-show_uk_5dde473fe4b0d50f3299a8f5

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Jeremy Clarkson Labels Greta Thunberg An 'Idiot' And Blames Her Fo...
It is not the first time The Grand Tour host has hit out at the 16-year-old climate activist.
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[27-Nov-19 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
classy


[27-Nov-19 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/AhoAR4T.jpg

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[27-Nov-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
killing the car show? you got yourself cancelled with a tantrum clark


[27-Nov-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/27/unmitigated-ludicrousness-trump-trying-distance-himself-giulianis-work-ukraine/


[27-Nov-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hey look a  bus


[27-Nov-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/11/27/trump-giuliani-ukraine-bill-oreilly-intv-vpx.cnn

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Trump distances himself from Rudy Giuliani in interview with Bill ...
President Trump distances himself from Rudy Giuliani in an interview with Bill O'Reilly, denying that he directed Giuliani to push for a Biden investigation in Ukraine.
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[27-Nov-19 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/DumbCerb/status/1199520763562405888

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https://twitter.com/DumbCerb/status/1199520763562405888
MY WIFE GOT APPROACHED (AND SHE TURNED THEM DOWN) BY A FUCKING ANGRY BOOMER FURRY FRATERNITY TO DO ART FOR THEIR BAD MEN-ONLY WEBSITE AND I'M ABSOLUTELY LOSING MY FUCKING SHIT
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[27-Nov-19 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
posting hre because there's a lot of bullshit here anyway


[27-Nov-19 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
more in the thread


[27-Nov-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/markets/american-jobs-are-getting-worse-a-new-index-shows/ar-BBXpfR1

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American jobs are getting worse, a new index shows
Although the U.S. is on a record streak for job creation, many Americans still feel like they can't get ahead. It's not their imagination. The past three decades have seen the economy churn out more and more jobs that offer inadequate pay, a group of researchers found.


[27-Nov-19 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/472313-justice-review-of-russia-probe-to-find-no-spying-by-fbi-ny-times

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Justice review of Russia probe to find no spying by FBI: NY Times
An investigation by an internal government watchdog has not found evidence that the FBI tried to put informants in President Trump's 2016 campaign,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-fbi_051519getty.jpg


[27-Nov-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim stupid, but well within the norm in that regard I'd say.


[27-Nov-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
if you can unironically have nazi bronies, these guys hardly even nudge the needle.


[27-Nov-19 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope Rudy's getting crank calls that are just children creepily singing "~the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...~"


[27-Nov-19 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/27/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/index.html

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Trump contradicts testimony -- and himself -- by claiming he never...
President Donald Trump has now denied that he directed his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to go to Ukraine and seek out investigations on his behalf, contradicting his own words to the Ukrainian President in the White House-released transcript of the July 25 call.
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[27-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg trying really hard to buy the election

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[27-Nov-19 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ignoring Iowa and NH but going for Super Tuesday and unending ad blitzes until then


[27-Nov-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[27-Nov-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet he wont show up for any of the debates either


[27-Nov-19 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not the plan nope


[27-Nov-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's too many people full of themselves running right now


[27-Nov-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A varied field and debate is good


[27-Nov-19 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, though my problem ismore with the full of themselves bit


[27-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If Trump can do it anyone can


[27-Nov-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not that being full of yourself


[27-Nov-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not saying running is being full of yourself, i'm saying that a lot of the candidates have massive egos and a deep wallet when it coems to policies


[27-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Deep wallet and a lack of couth is all you need to be president now


[27-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta love FOX


[27-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
herp


[27-Nov-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The world could be burning


[27-Nov-19 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And 3/5ths of their top stories would be "GOP members lands sizzling zinger on dummy liberal!"


[27-Nov-19 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With the remaining 2/5ths being sports inanity and "puppy barks twice as loud when he sees his dad return from deployment!"


[27-Nov-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/11/27/ice-arrested-250-foreign-students-fake-university-metro-detroit/4277686002/

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ICE arrests 90 more students at fake university in Michigan
Since January, ICE has arrested about 250 students who were enrolled at a fake university in Farmington Hills set up by ICE to lure in students.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/02/10/PDTF/f3cc8a47-dd2c-43cf-baed-10527abff614-FarmingtonUniversity_020719.jpg?crop=2399,1349,x0,y0&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[27-Nov-19 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
they set up a fake university for the sake of arresting people they can’t verify as lawful citizens of the US


[27-Nov-19 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[27-Nov-19 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
(the students had valid visas up until the school stopped existing)


[27-Nov-19 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[27-Nov-19 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
the SS is alive and well


[27-Nov-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm more curious about who they charged for the 'conspiracy'


[27-Nov-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/01/30/farmington-university-immigrant-arrests/2724992002/

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Farmington Hills fake university set up by ICE to nab foreign students
Eight people are indicted in what the feds say was a scheme to allow foreign students to illegally stay and work in the U.S.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/01/30/PDTF/8dddcf7a-5ff0-4739-a6c1-a30c131b9bc7-farmington.JPG?crop=1172,659,x0,y3&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[27-Nov-19 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
from the link on the first article.


[27-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
so apparently people knew it was fake, and it was a legit honeycomb op then?


[27-Nov-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno, first time I heard of it and I live maybe half an hour from Farmington Hills.


[27-Nov-19 10:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
But I haven't been college shopping since I was 18 so...


[27-Nov-19 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
if what it says here is true and people thought that a college that just accepts their money and asks for nothing in return, like actually being present or anything, was legit, well.


[27-Nov-19 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk you wouldn't, assuming it's true. Just an office building, if that, no actual teaching going on, not even a facade for it.


[27-Nov-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Wouldn't surprise me, shit like Pheonix University or that Delaware thing exists and those are just diploma mill online college probably without much of a physical school to begin with.


[27-Nov-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
And some two-thousand companies all share the same address at an empty building in Delaware.


[27-Nov-19 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
So, we're no stranger to corporate sus.


[27-Nov-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Nov-19 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
invasion of privacy or not, that's a very good, if a very cynical, measure.


[27-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
and in the end, this is impossible to enforce.


[27-Nov-19 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
primarily because it's impossible to prove definitively.


[27-Nov-19 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
they are enforcing it though


[27-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
you can just straight up not get a very lucrative job if you don't hand over all of the passwords for your social media accounts for them to look through all your private shit


[27-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
no-no


[27-Nov-19 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean the ban.


[27-Nov-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kinda


[27-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Eventually someone will file a complaint that they were denied a loan and the only possible reason is their social media


[27-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There will be an investigation


[27-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The company will be found to have been breaking the law


[27-Nov-19 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll get fined $20


[27-Nov-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
they'll get fined $20000 and write it off as an expense so they don't pay taxes on it


[27-Nov-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
and then delay paying it for years by appealing the decision each time


[27-Nov-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
but I think nobody will realistically be able to sue for this


[27-Nov-19 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
because the kinds of businesses this would apply to will force you into arbitration


[27-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
and hit you with a bullshit suit for damages if you report them for breaking the law


[27-Nov-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
because we live in a society


[27-Nov-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in an onion article


[27-Nov-19 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Onion was never this mean


[27-Nov-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[27-Nov-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
We are in post-satire


[27-Nov-19 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Literally comedy is dead. Just stop doing it.


[28-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
it's caws all the way down


[28-Nov-19 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[28-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50257922

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Anger as men cleared of gang-raping teen in Spain
Barcelona's mayor says acquitting the five men of sexual assault is an "outrageous sentence".
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[28-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck is wrong with spain, man


[28-Nov-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
wait, I think I linked an article about this before


[28-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Welcome to a month ago


[28-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The law defining rape says that non-consent is required


[28-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7656741/British-man-rapes-woman-two-days-Spain.html

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British man rapes woman for two days in Spain
Grammar school-educated former rugby player Dylan Rory Rogers (pictured left and right), 28, forced a woman to have sex over two days after he told her that he was going to punish her.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/11/06/16/20681026-0-image-a-128_1573059116436.jpg


[28-Nov-19 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lack of explicit consent is defined as sexual assault


[28-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which carries pretty much the same years in prison, but doesn't sound as bad


[28-Nov-19 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The law's been in the queue to be reformed for about two years now, but the socialists have blocked all law making for just as long because they don't like the concept of other parties being able to vote on ammendments


[28-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472340-trump-signs-bill-supporting-hong-kong-protesters-despite-chinese

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President Trump on Wednesday signed legislation offering support for pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong, one week after it passed the House and Senate with veto-proof majorities.
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[28-Nov-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good fuck Beijing


[28-Nov-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if it didn't pass with veto-proof majorities tho


[28-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Opponent#3498
they need something to talk about. People are tired of listening about arabs and Russians and Venesuella


[28-Nov-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
venezuela hasn't been brought up for awhile


[28-Nov-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
haven't really heard about it for 2 or 3 months or so


[28-Nov-19 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is the problem of having a hyperactive man with a short attention span at the helm


[28-Nov-19 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50579297

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German murderer wins 'right to be forgotten'
The man was convicted of murder but has won the right to have his name removed from search results.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/C50A/production/_108924405_d4056471-5197-4e77-839b-f462d6cf458d.jpg


[28-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
welcome to EU, everypony.


[28-Nov-19 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like a certain time after serving a sentence that criminals should have the right to be forgotten


[28-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
because you don't want to make it so people who have served their sentence are no longer able to participate in society


[28-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shot and killed two, critically injured another


[28-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
and the court of public opinion is much harsher than any regular court in a western country would ever be


[28-Nov-19 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should have given them a bullet


[28-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
wait wtf


[28-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
the article's like "this dude has won the right to be forgotten", but at the end, it says otherwise


[28-Nov-19 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
> But the constitutional court has overturned that decision and the case will now return to the federal courts.


[28-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
he hasn't won the right to be forgotten yet, it's just allowed his case to return to the courts


[28-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
is BBC going the way of fox news now?


[28-Nov-19 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
quality reporting is quality.


[28-Nov-19 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
hell, this is more like the blaze reporting than fox news reporting


[28-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
even fox news mostly keeps from doing that sort of practically outright lying bullshit, at least they spin their articles within the constraints of belief most of the time


[28-Nov-19 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
this is just more pro-brexit/anti-EU propaganda


[28-Nov-19 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[28-Nov-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
regulations are gone and business is booming


[28-Nov-19 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/11/27/just-one-week-after-trump-rolled-back-safety-measures-chemical-plant-explosion-rocks

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Just One Week After Trump Rolled Back Safety Measures, Chemical Pl...
"This facility has a track record of violating the Clean Air Act."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/port-neches-chemical-plant-explosion.jpg


[28-Nov-19 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
literally


[28-Nov-19 02:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🤦


[28-Nov-19 03:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"is BBC going the way of fox news now?"
I guess all the stuff I was posting here about the BBC went unread.

BBC has been like this for years now.


[28-Nov-19 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, ever since I first started paying attention to BBC personalities like Clarkson I've known that


[28-Nov-19 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
BBC is far less organized than many imagine


[28-Nov-19 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Clarkson is small fry entertainment wing of the BBC which is like its own thing. The news and political side of the BBC is much worse.


[28-Nov-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well it was because of Clarkson that I became aware of Piers Morgan

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[28-Nov-19 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing i really know clarkson for is top gear and throwing a fit that got top gear canned


[28-Nov-19 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn know if it ever got renewed or not


[28-Nov-19 04:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They got new guys to do the show. Clarkson and the others got picked up by Amazon to make the grand tour. Turns out nobody really liked the producer that got punched.


[28-Nov-19 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it spawned an america spin off


[28-Nov-19 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45937945

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McGuinness and Flintoff join Top Gear
Paddy McGuinness and Andrew "Freddie" Flintoff are announced as new hosts of the driving show.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/A696/production/_103964624_pa-crop-flin.jpg


[28-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
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[28-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
wow, warren and sanders are equal now


[28-Nov-19 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
wonder why warren's dropping off so fast


[28-Nov-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
must be a lot of rich people running ads against her now


[28-Nov-19 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
on top of the obligatory fake ads from facebook


[28-Nov-19 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg isn't helping


[28-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/middleeast/syria-kurds-safe-zone-ward/index.html

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Father grabbed kids and fled after US 'betrayal'
US military patrols in northern Syria made Ibrahim Hassan feel safe. But when they left and Turkish attacks began, he and thousands of Kurds had to run for their lives.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191125143835-syria-safe-zone-father-super-tease.jpeg


[28-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
> Now, the photos stir anger and confusion. "We thought America is strong and we were happy with this," Hassan says of how life used to be.


[28-Nov-19 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
> "But since America betrayed us, every time I look at these photos of my children with the Americans, I want to erase them. Now we hear and we see on the television, America saying they're only here for the oil. What about the innocent people who were depending on you here? Where is your responsibility? Why did you betray these people? Why did Trump do this?"


[28-Nov-19 06:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33312760/

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Climate Cults by AlexSpastic
I was rather taken aback by a young lady sounding off on world leaders because she thinks people are dying over global warming.   Ther ...
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[28-Nov-19 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna have to take a month of iodine and chemo to recover from this nuclear take


[28-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The violent anger over this is absurd. Not even Sandman got this shit.


[28-Nov-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like at least people stopped threats after a little bit when he got passe


[28-Nov-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This shit is endless and goes beyond bad tweets


[28-Nov-19 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She made one goddamn speech


[28-Nov-19 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sexual "degenerates" like furries only have ever been accepted by the people he is now degrading.


[28-Nov-19 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though he'd probably now say "oh those were dumb neocons"


[28-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone mentions the shit on the street of cities remind them that a stream of water can fix that, but not the rural opioid epidemic.


[28-Nov-19 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
thank you, smug and totally not hyperbolic hippo thing, very cool


[28-Nov-19 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/e2g6h8/he_loves_the_poorly_educated_for_a_reason/f8vn3zb

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He loves the poorly educated for a reason
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[28-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```Now, the photos stir anger and confusion. "We thought America is strong and we were happy with this," Hassan says of how life used to be.```


[28-Nov-19 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
people really should stop pretending to be so naive.


[28-Nov-19 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not even cute anymore.


[28-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
```It highlights our need for a national plan to combat this. We have to remove the voice of propaganda and misinformation by removing entities like Breitbart, OANN and Fox News and implement comprehensive legislation to have a 21st century fairness doctrine with adequate punishment and enforcement for propaganda. Then, once that's done to shut out more propaganda and help mitigate sedition by propaganda heads, these victims of propaganda have to learn how to learn.```


[28-Nov-19 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
😂


[28-Nov-19 12:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/giuliani-calls-trump-tell-him-he-was-joking-about-having-n1092826

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Giuliani calls Trump to tell him he was joking about having an 'in...
"He shouldn’t joke, he is not a funny guy," said Rudy Giuliani's lawyer,  Robert Costello, who insisted he make the call to emphasize he had not been serious.
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[28-Nov-19 12:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_Rudy, feeling Trump's heavy hand on his shoulder as the bus approaches the curb_


[28-Nov-19 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*the last words he hears as he feels a hard shove are a loudly screamed "NO COLLUSION!"*


[28-Nov-19 12:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/30458ce0af5b4c8e8e8a19c8621a25fd

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Furious, China summons US ambassador over Hong Kong bills
BEIJING (AP) — China reacted furiously Thursday to President Donald Trump’s signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning...
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[28-Nov-19 12:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china can go fuck itself


[28-Nov-19 12:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ok


[28-Nov-19 01:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://meduza.io/en/short/2019/11/26/moscow-residents-protest-against-domestic-violence-as-conflict-over-legislation-heats-up

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Moscow residents protest against domestic violence as conflict ove...
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[28-Nov-19 02:40 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, they're too busy restricting the Internet to preserve the Christian Values.


[28-Nov-19 02:43 PM] ononim#8141
they can multi-task those two


[28-Nov-19 02:43 PM] ononim#8141
especially since they're kinda inept at the former


[28-Nov-19 04:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/despite-what-conservative-media-says-liberals-are-not-trying-cancel-thanksgiving

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[28-Nov-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good there's a war on thinksgiving drama happening now


[28-Nov-19 04:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
invented entirely by Fox, as per usual


[28-Nov-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anyone is at war with thanksgiving, it;s retail christmas


[28-Nov-19 04:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, I *will* say that liberal millenials are killing the Thanksgiving industry saying, "hey, maybe less historical revisionism on the first thanksgiving story" but no one's saying don't celebrate. The holiday's pretty far removed from its puritanical roots already. They're just saying less of this:

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[28-Nov-19 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"and then squanto fought mightily with the thanksgiving titan and won, and that;s why we eat turkeys"


[28-Nov-19 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
here's the article I nabbed that clipart from http://blog.hmns.org/2015/11/the-real-first-thanksgiving-the-wampanoag-perspective/


[28-Nov-19 04:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember when Thanksgiving was considered by the south as a northern attack on their way of life?


[28-Nov-19 04:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
That was a thing


[28-Nov-19 04:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
good times


[28-Nov-19 04:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well legit kinda was considered an attack on the south because it was mostly a thing observed by the north and was when radical abolitionists would work the tables too


[28-Nov-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://forensicnews.net/2019/11/27/deutsche-bank-executive-who-signed-off-on-trump-loans-kills-self-at-age-55/

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Deutsche Bank Executive Who Signed Off On Trump Loans Kills Himsel...
Trigger warning: suicide Thomas Bowers, a former Deutsche Bank executive and head of the American wealth-management division, killed himself in Malibu, California, on Tuesday, November 19th, according to the Los Angeles county coroner's initial report. First reports of his de...
https://forensicnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/MyW2th2P.jpg


[28-Nov-19 04:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what makes this story exclusive


[28-Nov-19 04:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this has been all over the news


[28-Nov-19 04:45 PM] Sev3617#4685
it’s clickbait


[28-Nov-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know :shrugpony:  the big flashing exclusive sign is only in the preview


[28-Nov-19 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
"exclusive" usually means that they're the first to break the story


[28-Nov-19 06:48 PM] Opponent#3498
didn't someone link here a story that Thanksgiving was actually born as a holiday at about WW2 as part of Red Scare?


[28-Nov-19 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yet another myth about 'capitalism fuck yeah'.


[28-Nov-19 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
based on reality, but a myth nonetheless.


[28-Nov-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It became popular after WWII, was largely a New England tradition


[28-Nov-19 06:53 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVV2Zk88beY
This appeared in my recommend

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I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left | Mega...
What's it like to grow up within a group of people who exult in demonizing ... everyone else? Megan Phelps-Roper shares details of life inside America's most...
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[28-Nov-19 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/472078-recession-fears-recede-in-boost-to-trump

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Recession fears recede in boost to Trump
The improving economic picture could be a boon for President Trump, who has made the economy a central argument for his reelection.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/economygdpgrossdomesticproduct_053019getty.jpg


[28-Nov-19 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
headlines next week will claim the economy is on fire and burning to death, this is gettign hard to pin


[28-Nov-19 07:17 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[28-Nov-19 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dow isn't a good prediction of anything


[28-Nov-19 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dow goes into panic mode at the slightest mention of china


[28-Nov-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stupidest part is if humans cleared out of the stock market, it would keep running itself with no help what so ever going into blind panics and soars at a moments notice


[28-Nov-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market is not at all an indicator of economic health


[28-Nov-19 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, no, the story of thanksgiving was propagandized to be a story of the triumph of "capitalism" over "communism", basically saying that thanksgiving was impossible under "communism" and only became possible under "capitalism"


[28-Nov-19 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, okay. I misunderstood then.


[28-Nov-19 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
the first thanksgiving was under the "communist" system propagandists claim brought nothing but famine and arguments to the pilgrims (it did bring arguments, but no famines)


[28-Nov-19 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
it was only 2 years after the first thanksgiving that they switched to the "capitalist" system


[28-Nov-19 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
and the only reasons they switched were that there was less griping and complaining, and there were higher personal profit margins


[28-Nov-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
and that boiled down to people just working harder because they didn't use the excuse that everyone else was working "less hard" to work less hard themselves


[28-Nov-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
the pilgrim colonists were primarily a business venture made up of a bunch of different people who didn't really trust each other which was the source of the complaining


[28-Nov-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
since everyone thought everyone else was being lazy


[28-Nov-19 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
so in essence, it's actually a story of 'laws are whatever works at the time'.


[28-Nov-19 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rules would be more accurate in this case.


[28-Nov-19 08:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXk6ada_1Ko

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The Brain of Carnotaurus & Last Malaysian Sumatran Rhino Dies - 7 ...
We have the UN! We have Rhinos! We have... wait... those aren't very fun stories. They don't warrant an exclamation mark at all; I must fix that some time......
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[28-Nov-19 09:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/climate-debate-boris-johnson-nigel-farage-ice-sculpture-channel-4-empty-chair-a9225071.html

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Boris Johnson to be replaced with melting ice sculpture after dodg...
Prime minister refused to attend Channel 4 discussion
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[28-Nov-19 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@PwnyPony https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/28/ice-sculpture-to-replace-boris-johnson-in-channel-4-climate-debate?fbclid=IwAR15hOAO0qsDHVKGceSQekRkTOOZJ4P1cO0zvqRzLONFNSaHSc5eH_uNLxM

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Tories threaten Channel 4 after ice sculpture takes PM's place in ...
Conservatives say they could review channel’s broadcasting remit if they win election
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[28-Nov-19 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
gotta refer to tories as "ice sculptures" from here on in


[28-Nov-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They melt when reality catches up with them.


[28-Nov-19 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the Ice Sculpture Party


[28-Nov-19 11:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
melts away after receiving heat


[29-Nov-19 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-raised-more-money-than-any-other-house-democrat-in-third-quarter/

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Melody Ng
https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-raised-more-money-than-any-other-house-democrat-in-third-quarter/
AOC Raised More Money Than Any Other House Democrat in Third Quarter
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's reelection campaign is a testament to the power of grassroots fundraising.
https://truthout.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/2019_1127-aoc-rally-1200x808.jpg


[29-Nov-19 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
she sells that grassroots narrative well.


[29-Nov-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
you're free to doubt the claim but if you think she's being astroturfed, my question is "what large business would possibly do that"


[29-Nov-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't like her policies because it puts more responsibility on them


[29-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The recycled cardboard inustry


[29-Nov-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
real heavy hitter, that one is.


[29-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their influence is everywhere


[29-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they join with the metal drinking straws lobby, we're doomed


[29-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
no-no, I don't think that.


[29-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's probably absolutely legit.


[29-Nov-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, the whole 'work 18 hours a day and then go to Congress' thing her bio reads.


[29-Nov-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Her running was a protest in itself against the already reigning candidate from her district, who never took her seriously as opposition until he lost.


[29-Nov-19 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then she found herself in and at the head of a small wave of self-described socialist candidates.


[29-Nov-19 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
lights in video games use real electricity

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[29-Nov-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
:tempsurprise:


[29-Nov-19 03:38 AM] ononim#8141
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/11/25/we-don-t-trust-feminists-with-laws-about-our-families

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[29-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
.qa @byte[] lights in video games use real electricity


[29-Nov-19 03:38 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@byte[]: lights in video games use real electricity).


[29-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Nov-19 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives vs climate change


[29-Nov-19 06:52 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
this woudnt happened if ice we're melted at first place


[29-Nov-19 06:52 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
libtard destroyed

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[29-Nov-19 06:52 AM] Sev3617#4685
....


[29-Nov-19 06:53 AM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[29-Nov-19 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6721d9979ffa4b4fabab5dc570970883 here we go again

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[29-Nov-19 02:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5bvg75lxtD/?igshid=ux0e6wemf7st

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[29-Nov-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m shocked he didnt tweet about it himself before gettign ont he flight to the base


[29-Nov-19 04:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[29-Nov-19 05:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/economy/luxury-malls-holiday-shopping/index.html

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Malls are now targeting millionaires
Suburban malls in the middle of America have been hit hard due the financial woes of anchor tenants like Macy's and JCPenney and the slow death spiral at Sears.
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[29-Nov-19 05:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/472404-the-senate-jury-pool-is-tainted

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The Senate jury pool is tainted
Jurors are supposed to be free from prejudice and predisposition towards the accused and the evidence.
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[29-Nov-19 05:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cool, we'll strike those Democratic senators running for president


[29-Nov-19 05:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We'll also strike any Republican who has already made up their mind


[29-Nov-19 05:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you mean "We've only got five senators left"


[29-Nov-19 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Meanwhile in the tropics


[29-Nov-19 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ambiente/2019/11/bolsonaro-acusa-dicaprio-de-dar-dinheiro-para-tacar-fogo-na-amazonia.shtml

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Bolsonaro acusa DiCaprio de dar dinheiro para 'tacar fogo na Amaz...
Apesar de declaração, não há comprovação de que ONGs financiadas pelo ator tenham envolvimento na série de queimadas
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[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
lolcow president


[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro accuses Leonardo DiCaprio of bribing environmentalists to set fire to the Amazon forest


[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
he really does tries to mimic his daddy DOnald


[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This isn't a joke


[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
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(VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED AGAIN) Different angle of the ongoing incident at London Bridge. Police can be heard yelling at civilians to “get back” before firing shots. Bravery shown by the public is jaw-dropping. Credit to Brendan Lacey #LondonBridge https://t.co/ganE1...
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[29-Nov-19 05:25 PM] ononim#8141
Footage from London


[29-Nov-19 05:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They shot him on the ground. Did he have a bomb/gun or something? News is reporting 4 shots but I only see 2 here.


[29-Nov-19 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a stabbing.


[29-Nov-19 05:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A pretty big difference in response to the usual stabbings in London. Must have been a spree to get the squads out.


[29-Nov-19 05:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472419-bet-founder-robert-johnson-no-2020-democrat-is-capable-of-beating-trump#

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BET founder Robert Johnson: No 2020 Democrat is 'capable of beatin...
BET founder Robert Johnson said the 2020 election is President Trump’s to lose and that no current Democratic presidential candidate is “capable of beating” him.
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[29-Nov-19 06:20 PM] Snow#2761
@Itsthinking "i know, but he is."

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[29-Nov-19 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He got a decent amount of votes.


[29-Nov-19 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To think one of the front runners a century later is an unabashed socialist


[29-Nov-19 06:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7717425/Hungarian-scientists-closing-FIFTH-force-nature.html

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Hungarian scientists are closing in on a FIFTH force of nature
Researchers at the Hungarian Academy of Sciences have revealed results that could show a fifth force of nature (pictured, a cosmic web) in action.
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[29-Nov-19 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
well, someone puts that grant money to good use, buying drugs. I can respect that.


[29-Nov-19 06:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Null element


[29-Nov-19 07:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
More on that London stabbing guy. 
Turns out the guy was wearing a fake bomb setup and that is why they shot him while he was on the ground. The 2 extra shots being reported as 4 shots turned out to be echos from the gun fire sound bouncing off the walls down the streets. He killed 2 people.


[29-Nov-19 09:50 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/bankpads/status/1200248140302974976?s=21

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Never will I ever see an example of how "radical feminism" doesn't care about the opinions of women than this.

It's too perfect.
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[29-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

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House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republican...
Legislative paralysis gripped Capitol Hill well before impeachment started.
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[29-Nov-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr fukk McConnell


[29-Nov-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still hoping he falls down a flight of stairs into a bear trap face first


[29-Nov-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how a bear trap woudl get there, i'll never know


[29-Nov-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/JDfhDJc.jpg

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[29-Nov-19 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Also when big companies advertise for reducing carbon footprint


[29-Nov-19 10:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck off https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1200449458741424130?s=21

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Wow, the fliers for @JoeBiden's upcoming Iowa bus tour are surprisingly honest!
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[29-Nov-19 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden is peak boomer


[29-Nov-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim well they're honest about it, in a way. You damage the group you associate yourself with by your actions and statements. **Cease.**


[29-Nov-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda the same with any other label. Like a dress-code for the company.


[29-Nov-19 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
that is, of course, assuming there's an ultimate enforceable authority in this specific case like there is in a company. But who knows, maybe they believe they can drum up enough support to do it.


[29-Nov-19 10:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1200454623443783680?s=21

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[29-Nov-19 10:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Hail to that big fat fuck


[29-Nov-19 10:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck no


[29-Nov-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I got the troops mcdonalds burders, bitches love mcdonalds burders!"


[29-Nov-19 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYkLVU5UGM8

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[30-Nov-19 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.funko.com/craftmin/products/43706_ThejokerGamer_POP_GLAM_WEB-d1ba201834210195bf0dcdc3a6b179d9.png

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[30-Nov-19 12:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Jim Stirling lost a lot of weight.


[30-Nov-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Guess it's what happens when you decide to change weight class


[30-Nov-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
yup. It's. A literal costumed clown. This is how people now think they should present themselves to be taken seriously.


[30-Nov-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a FunKo pop, literally made to cash in on the notoriety of the Joker as a nerd product.


[30-Nov-19 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
And they made the extra step to make him a gamer


[30-Nov-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
I meant the video.


[30-Nov-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's exactly representative of it.


[30-Nov-19 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nah, this is Olly's schtick. He's an actor, he's learned to costume up as characters to present his videos. Either because it allows to organize points between them or to do something of a conversation between the two


[30-Nov-19 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
The same way one ContraPoints takes on character acting to present her videos as a dialogue with two characters representing an idea or set of ideas.


[30-Nov-19 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's basically full embrace of the para-social relationship taken to a noticeable absurdity. Because it's not Olly specifically, it's a whole other character.


[30-Nov-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, riddle me this.


[30-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
this guy, like a legion of popular 'lefty-but-not-really' video game... affliated folk I guess? Talks about loot boxes, and 'compulsive purchases', and 'predatory monetisation', and 'cosmetics that matter', and...


[30-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
my question is this.


[30-Nov-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
do those people actually live on planet Earth or?..


[30-Nov-19 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
... yes?


[30-Nov-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
this reads like the perfect, 100% authentic example of 'first world problems'. When everything is so peachy keen in your life you get mad at 'predatory monetisation' and 'cosmetics that matter'.


[30-Nov-19 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
I see you probably only went so far. If you kept up it continues on to where the issue mushrooms into several other issues as well and not just video games.


[30-Nov-19 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
It just happens video games is where the faults are more evident.


[30-Nov-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
no, but I've seen a llllllllllot of video game-specific complaints before.


[30-Nov-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
and the fact that this guy is using that angle to appeal to that crowd is... understandable, gotta sell your ideas somehow, but extremely jarring and a bit disappointing.


[30-Nov-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Video games are one of THE biggest sectors for entertainment in the economy at the moment. Gaming across all fields out-grosses film and music now.


[30-Nov-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
There isn't anyone who is untouched by video games in some way.


[30-Nov-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it has a far heavier impact than pointing out: of all the food you buy, there's only five companies that distribute all of that.


[30-Nov-19 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or how electrical service providers and internet service providers in America have the country carved up into fiefdoms that practice monopoly in their given area without ever having to spend against the other.


[30-Nov-19 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, cause you might not eat, but you definitely play that heavily monetised Angry Birds on your phone...


[30-Nov-19 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or the wealth from developing or less developing nations gets siphened out and deepens the overall issues in those markets.


[30-Nov-19 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
this is probably one of those pure America things. 'Compulsive spending'. Yeah.


[30-Nov-19 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And you *could* talk about it, but there's maybe a few thousand people who give a shit vs the potential millions who are mad they feel bullied into having to spend more for their hobby when they don't have to.


[30-Nov-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the case of America it's turned into a case where there's already so much money, and so much of it captured by such a small group of people it's absurd that they ever need to make more to begin with. What value does it all have to them when there's people having trouble paying the rent?


[30-Nov-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a sort of street-level political issue that's given rise to Trump and maybe to Bernie because there's a boiling frustration at the excess as we return to a 19th century norm.


[30-Nov-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Cold War and the relative success of the American middle class and even the blue collar working class was a fluke really, a bump in the progress of American capitalism and capitalism at large. Where some country in Europe may have faced a militant surge of radical unionists actually murdering their bosses, World War 2 and World War 1 both came at a time that allowed the US to disrupt their labor movements, and eventually chop of its head.


[30-Nov-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
To go further too I'd suggest there's an unwillingness or an apathy towards thinking about the relationship between politics and economy in the traditional sectors of the market because that's where the idea between the relationship has been strongest. Where as video games has the fascinating reality of being new, where the relationship can be shown most clearly, and entirely lacks a union presence and is almost entirely dominated by the right-libertarian ideology of wild free market exchange and the Cult of Work to validate its own practices.


[30-Nov-19 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I've read a pretty common sentiment among more veteran developers. There are better and riskier options, and worse but more stable options, and then there's video game industry that is hell and starving to death is a reasonable alternative to working there.


[30-Nov-19 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
still, people that struggle with 'compulsive spending', being mad at loot boxes doesn't help the state of the industry one bit.


[30-Nov-19 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
because the vast majority of them do not care even a itty bitty bit about it or the workers, only the product they're presented with.


[30-Nov-19 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
and even that is often extremely shallow.


[30-Nov-19 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
The thing with loot boxes is they don't really target people who have a habit. There's no real form profile. The effects they use pretty broadly effect many people. It's a similar psychological abuse that make casinos tick. And take it from a sorta-marketing student: the whole structure of selling shit is also based on the same habits and calls as loot boxes and gambling, but other products tend to be physically limited


[30-Nov-19 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can sell the flash and excitement of a loot box to sell a car. But you can't sell a car the same way as a loot box or slots, which sell the excitement of probability of a thing.


[30-Nov-19 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
well, that is fair, I agree.


[30-Nov-19 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2019/11/29/oklahoma-police-officer-gets-a-starbucks-cup-labeled-pig/

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[30-Nov-19 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
```“What irks me is the absolute and total disrespect for a police officer who, instead of being home with family and enjoying a meal and a football game, is patrolling his little town,” Chief Johnny O’Mara said in a Facebook post that included an image of the “Pig” coffee cup.```


[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
:wow:


[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472434-ex-gop-lawmaker-former-colleagues-privately-say-theyre

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Ex-GOP lawmaker: Former colleagues privately say they're 'disguste...
Former Rep.
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[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
> Former Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) said Thursday that he has spoken privately to some of his former colleagues amid the ongoing House impeachment inquiry and said that there is “no question” they are “absolutely disgusted and exhausted by the president’s behavior.”


[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, he's a dead man walking, politically.


[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
literally bad for everyone.


[30-Nov-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
even for people who profit off him cause it attracts attention to them


[30-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[30-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump has a an obsessive base of sycophants


[30-Nov-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They may make just 5% of the electorate


[30-Nov-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But when so many states have a difference between parties of less than that, it counts


[30-Nov-19 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Nov-19 02:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bet-founder-says-2020-election-is-trumps-to-lose

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BET founder says 2020 election is Trump’s to lose
Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, said in an interview Friday that he does not believe that there's a Democrat in the 2020 field today who can prevent President Trump from winning a second term.
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[30-Nov-19 02:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon tfw something like 12% of the population gave us Trump.


[30-Nov-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
80000 votes or so


[30-Nov-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's not even a vote difference but a percentage of the total eligible voters which is already small. If roughly less than half of the 25% of people who did vote (as a rough spitball, adjust for a few up or down), then a very low overall total of the population determined the date for the rest of us.


[30-Nov-19 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
In a way too, all nonvoters it could be said defaulted then to voting for Trump because of the winner take all structure.


[30-Nov-19 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
So if someone says they're out of it because they never voted then just point that out. If they did not vote, then their non-action in politics does not absolve them, because it is winner takes all. The least they could do is a meme vote and admit to that.


[30-Nov-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nhs-trade-deal-trump-corbyn-brexit-general-election-manifesto-a9219566.html

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Corbyn reveals secret documents that 'confirm Tory plot to sell of...
Labour leader says: ‘This is not only a plot against our NHS, it’s a plot against our country’
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[30-Nov-19 03:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"We are not going to sell the NHS. We will discuss 400+ pages worth of how to sell it but we never had any plans to sell it. honest." -🇬🇧


[30-Nov-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Nov-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/09/david-clapson-benefit-sanctions-death-government-policies

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David Clapson’s awful death was the result of grotesque governme...
Frances Ryan: The DWP brags about ending the ‘something for nothing’ culture, but benefit sanctions punish the unemployed, disabled and poor in ways that are utterly inhumane
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[30-Nov-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The article in question, apparently.


[30-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-challenger-suspended-from-twitter-after-tweeting-omar-could-be-hanged-for-treason

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Ilhan Omar's GOP challenger blasts Twitter after account suspended...
A Republican challenging Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., in 2020 reportedly had her Twitter accounts permanently suspended this week after she tweeted that the congresswoman should potentially be hanged for treason.
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[30-Nov-19 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`A Republican challenging U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., in 2020 blasted Twitter on Friday after having her accounts permanently suspended this week following a tweet suggesting that the incumbent congresswoman should be hanged if found guilty of treason.

Danielle Stella wrote on her campaign Twitter account Tuesday, “If it is proven @IlhanMN passed sensitive info to Iran, she should be tried for #treason and hanged," The Washington Examiner reported.

She later added a link to a blog post that included a drawing of a stick figure being hanged.`


[30-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
JUST SAYING GUYS WHAT IF MY OPPONENT IS A TRAITOR THAT SHOULD BE HUNG


[30-Nov-19 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
JUST SAYIN'


[30-Nov-19 08:32 AM] Opponent#3498
2014, pretty old article.


[30-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's always fun to see articles that are like 5 years old talking about how immediate change is needed cause shit's broken


[30-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
knowing that in the years since, conservatives hav made sure things stayed broken.


[30-Nov-19 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extra fun given the bombshell about drug pricing and the NHS.


[30-Nov-19 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not really broken, it does what it's supposed to. Unless you're already wealthy, you're only as good as 10% of the profit you produce. And at 59, and/or a disability, well.


[30-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
the conservative party in the UK defunded the NHS


[30-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's not doing what it was supposed to


[30-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no no, they aren't done yet.


[30-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've only begun to slash funding.


[30-Nov-19 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bulk of it's intact, tho a lot of it's bound up with red tape


[30-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
see, they've been rolling out these programs where local councils decide who isn't allowed care


[30-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like oh that guy smoked when he was younger, that woman's fat, let's just not giv them much help.


[30-Nov-19 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC


[30-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, only Hertfordshire so far https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/nhs-provokes-fury-indefinite-surgery-ban-smokers-obese/

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NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese
The NHS will ban patients from surgery indefinitely unless they lose weight or quit smoking, under controversial plans drawn up in Hertfordshire.
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[30-Nov-19 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
UK in particular always had a special way with work. My boss' friend moved there with his wife in the early 90ies or so. Way he explained it, she had a PhD, so she was considered 'overqualified' for something like a clerk job, yet didn't have anything available to her degree, so couldn't find a job for that either. Stayed unemployed for 2 years till he started his own business and employed her.


[30-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
with stories like this, things that happen now absolulutely do not suprise me.


[30-Nov-19 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
What 'overqualified' really means is "We'd look bad to not pay you extra because you're actually smart, so we're just not going to hire you" along with "you probably wouldn't mess up, so it'd be hard to justify firing you"


[30-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
most likely.


[30-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses in the UK and US want under-qualified, error-prone workers who are easily replaced and will stay down in the ranks.


[30-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That isn't politics.


[30-Nov-19 08:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
It seems like the place to put it tho


[30-Nov-19 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless like, there's gonna be some argument about allegations.


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
General-discussion is inactive right now.


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
there is argument with the fans and the victims


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of this channel is to separate out heated discussion about policy.


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The latest celebrity drama isn't controversial.


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sure could be, but...literally who?


[30-Nov-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who the fukk is that?


[30-Nov-19 08:48 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
dhavie was the lead singer from botdf blood on the dance floor


[30-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav never heard of any of those things before today.


[30-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, surprise surprise, Hertfordshire was seeking to save money


[30-Nov-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
right as they decided to stop providing care to smokers and overweight people


[30-Nov-19 08:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its gotten so bad that people try to cancel the shows so he cant hurt women


[30-Nov-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's always a monetary excuse, oh we can't afford this, let's let people die, etc. etc.


[30-Nov-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economic liberalism is a scourge.


[30-Nov-19 08:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
(so where can I put that artical at)


[30-Nov-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
General is the most appropriate channel.


[30-Nov-19 08:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I thought polotics was it cuz It talked about rape


[30-Nov-19 08:51 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
fff


[30-Nov-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And here if there really was anything to argue about...it'd be rather different if it was some millionnaire.


[30-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, there are political things to say about society finding people guilty until proven innocent


[30-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and cancel culture


[30-Nov-19 08:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they used to be quite well known


[30-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that there's no real interesting *hook* with that article


[30-Nov-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it doesn't provide new info on the topic


[30-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just another name on the list of people facing a bunch of accusations


[30-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Epstein's stuff is political because of the Acosta coverup


[30-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how it ties in with Prince Andrew


[30-Nov-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the guards being paid off...signs of a broken system


[30-Nov-19 08:53 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
he has always had trouble but its getting looked into and something is getting down now


[30-Nov-19 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/88646b56c71641b9906a9cab82379315

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Trump to decide if he wants lawyers at impeachment hearings
WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee asked President Donald Trump on Friday to say whether he’ll send his attorneys to participate in impeachment proceedings before the...
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[30-Nov-19 03:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
My favourite part about the conservatives and what they say they are going to do for the NHS to the public is how they say they are bringing in thousands of new NHS workers but about 10,000 of them are actually just ones that were already leaving their jobs.


[30-Nov-19 04:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/JimmerUK/status/1200452476413104128?s=20

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Boris Johnson is lying about having never lied. Here are just a few.
🔊Sound up.
#DontVoteTory https://t.co/xCgYTUgNJV
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Twitter


[30-Nov-19 04:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/Nn6pAvZIJa4

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https://youtu.be/Nn6pAvZIJa4
The Sarkeesian Repetition: The Internet Never Changes
So Anita Sarkeesian did something silly recently, having a subjective opinion about a piece of pop culture. Has she not learned her lesson? On the serious si...
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[30-Nov-19 04:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I think BoJo The Clown saw Ben Shapiros breakdown and won't go anywhere near Andrew Neil. Must be afraid of being asked for an autograph.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-andrew-marr-neil-interview-election-debate-bbc-a9227286.html?utm_source=reddit.com

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BBC under fire for U-turn in allowing Boris Johnson to appear on M...
Labour MP says move ‘will leave professional BBC journalists absolutely horrified and in despair’
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/11/28/12/boris-johnson.jpg


[30-Nov-19 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/28/apple-under-fire-for-labelling-crimea-as-part-of-russia-in-its-apps

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Apple under fire for labelling Crimea as part of Russia in its apps
Fury in Ukraine over tech firm’s move, which it had resisted since the 2014 annexation
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[30-Nov-19 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[30-Nov-19 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
boy oh boy oh boy, I bet it feels good to be those assholes that go 'we use Apple, so we're superior to you all' right about now.


[30-Nov-19 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
and the best part, this is perfectly legal so it's likely to stay, because as of right now it is under Russian control. Giving people ample reason to raise a stink about it


[30-Nov-19 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
a perfect talking point. Everybody wins, except the 'Apple culture' assholes.


[30-Nov-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
Indepedent Crimea anexes both Russia and Ukraine


[30-Nov-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
Boom


[30-Nov-19 05:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Last I checked Apple is only really showing Crimea as part of Russia for people and users physically in Russia. For users in Western Europe, America, or elsewhere it's not shown as Russian


[30-Nov-19 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
Problem solved

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[30-Nov-19 05:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's only changed in Russia for compliance of Russian law


[30-Nov-19 05:34 PM] ononim#8141
Inb4 FSB gets my ass for this post


[30-Nov-19 05:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I imagine after this shit storm they'll not do much of anything. "We'll look into" is a pretty stock response


[30-Nov-19 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, they're doing the correct thing, just like Google did and for the same reasons.


[30-Nov-19 05:35 PM] ononim#8141
What does yandex maps show outside of russia


[30-Nov-19 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
good question. Let's see.


[30-Nov-19 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems it doesn't show a border at all.


[30-Nov-19 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498

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[30-Nov-19 05:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
USSR IS BACK BABY


[30-Nov-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually we should revive the Crimean Khanate (this time without slavery)


[30-Nov-19 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait no they'd be Erdogan stans


[30-Nov-19 05:40 PM] ononim#8141
Did it shiw maritime border in Kerch before 2014?


[30-Nov-19 05:40 PM] ononim#8141
If not they might just show it as Ulranian outside of Russia


[30-Nov-19 05:41 PM] Opponent#3498
no idea. But right now there would be a land border anyway, tied to the bridge.


[30-Nov-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/27/gerrymandering-michigan-citizens-voters-not-politicians

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Republicans tried to rig the vote in Michigan – but ‘political...
After a Republican bragged about cramming ‘Dem garbage’ into certain districts, a grassroots campaign has given the power to redraw political maps to the people
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[30-Nov-19 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://allafrica.com/view/group/main/main/id/00071073.html

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Sudan Dissolves Former Ruling Party
Hundreds took to the streets of Khartoum to celebrate Sudan's Sovereign Council and Cabinet's decision to disband the National Congress Party, established by ousted President Omar Al Bashir, and repeal the infamous Public Order Law.
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[30-Nov-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the map apps show different maps by country, btw


[30-Nov-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's still a lot of disputed borders laying around and countries get very, very pissed when you don't play ball with your maps.


[30-Nov-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh, there's problems from the Arabian Gulf to the East Sea.


[30-Nov-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/472470-judiciary-republican-calls-for-panel-to-expand-list-of-impeachment-witnesses

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Judiciary Republican calls for panel to expand list of impeachment...
Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee are calling for the panel to expand its list of witnesses ahead of the Dec. 4 hearing it will hold in the House’s impeachment investigation into President Trump.
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[30-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Please let us call Alan Dershowitz, John Turley, and John Solomon."


[30-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
'balanced' meaning "containing both pro-truth and anti-truth factions"


[30-Nov-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People accusing The Hill of censoring shit when it's been proven his opinion articles have been proven to affect policy


[30-Nov-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His _opinion_ articles were used for that.


[30-Nov-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's total "to the best of my knowledge" stuff the GOP dislikes.


[30-Nov-19 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/472378-tucker-carlson-calls-trump-full-blown-bs-artist-but-defends-him-from-media

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Tucker Carlson calls Trump 'full-blown BS artist' in segment defen...
Fox News host Tucker Carlson called President Trump a “compulsive self-promoter” and a “full-blown BS artist” while seeking to defend him against negative media coverage during his show on Wednesday night.
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[30-Nov-19 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that all of Solomon's pieces were moved to the "opinion" section *after* he left The Hill and they reviewed his stuff the *first* time


[30-Nov-19 09:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they weren't too happy about his practices of sending his articles to other outlets before they got editorial approval


[30-Nov-19 09:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/28/politics/white-house-lockdown-scramble/index.html

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Inside the frantic response to mysterious 'slow-moving blob' flyin...
The mysterious "slow-moving blob" detected in the skies over Washington Tuesday prompted a frantic response from security officials on the ground as they raced against the clock to assess the potential threat.
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[30-Nov-19 09:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/11/30/hawaii-news/tulsi-gabbard-calls-on-trump-to-remove-troops-from-syria/

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Tulsi Gabbard calls on Trump to remove troops from Syria
Hawaii Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has introduced a resolution urging the U.S. to withdraw troops from Syria following a directive from President Donald Trump to secure the country’s oil fields.
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[30-Nov-19 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Assadist Tulsi


[30-Nov-19 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
hawaii trying to be relevant xD


[30-Nov-19 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. Considering their history, I absolutely wouldn't be suprised seing them work against mainland US and it's interests.


[30-Nov-19 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A country's "interests" in the national stage are always fluctuating tbf


[30-Nov-19 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Up until 1967 the US was not willing to support Israel for example, they were seen as more of a liability than a possibility


[30-Nov-19 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US was more focused on appeasing the oil-rich Arab countries


[30-Nov-19 09:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
To be fair Hawaii is minority Hawaiians now. Even when it was run by Hawaiians they were on their way to minority status. Diseases introduced by whalers didn't do any good for them. And they didn't have the capital or buisiness savy to begin with when it came to dealing with the heirs of the missionary class who came to the islands from New England and established the first sugar plantations, who themselves made it worse on the natives by not only using all the water and ariable land, but brought in masses of Anglos, Portugese, Chinese, and Japanese labourers. The theory at the time, and I suppose proven correct by its use is that having a mass multi-lingial work force would dissuade unionization. Esspecially if the whites distrusted the Asians and the Asians distrusted the Koreans. Or rather since no one understood anyone they couldn't organize, because they did have a habit of trading food. That's how the Hawaiian plate lunch was born


[30-Nov-19 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. Another dish brought about by circumstance and practicality.


[30-Nov-19 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/Qlj2sdEelak

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https://youtu.be/Qlj2sdEelak
UNFAMILIAR FISHES by Sarah Vowell
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[30-Nov-19 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only thing it misses these days is the opium slipped to the workers by the chef to dull the pain of fourteen hour workdays working in the field to produce sugar for export to the mainland. But that would be dirtying it up.


[30-Nov-19 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://people.com/crime/texas-teacher-drunken-sex-students-avoids-jail-time/

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[30-Nov-19 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
reverse the genders and there'd be a lynching, etc.


[30-Nov-19 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, the students were over the age of consent.


[30-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, if that 16-year-old she slept with was a year younger (or hypothetically if they were 16 and a day at the time of the incident, and so instead a day younger), she'd be facing sex offender registration and jailtime.


[30-Nov-19 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
But yes, a male in her position would get jailtime.


[01-Dec-19 12:10 AM] illumnious#7938
Finally https://twitter.com/talbertswan/status/1200725656700628992?s=21

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[01-Dec-19 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.de/young-blood-transfusions-open-accepting-paypal-payments-cities-ambrosia-2019-1?fbclid=IwAR0eDpYcQ205YN_f-xw61RJvkeOVjM77JPMCQgZgUEgCgBtong0pF1j33cI&r=US&IR=T

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A controversial startup that charges $8,000 to fill your veins wit...
A company called Ambrosia is charging $8,000 for the procedure and accepting PayPal payments. But there's little to no evidence that it would work.
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[01-Dec-19 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Holy crap


[01-Dec-19 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is some grimdark anime shit, all the way to the company's name


[01-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This one of those "blood of the young" things?


[01-Dec-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[01-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been a thing in fiction for ages, actually heard of one existing for realsies a few years ago


[01-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like a great way to tempt fate and get some bizarre illness or shut down your liver, I'd rather much keep blood transfusions for emergencies...


[01-Dec-19 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fair point


[01-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And now I can imagine "blood type" to be among the questions asked at an interview for Amazon


[01-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
30 years from now Bezos always walking around with a backpack that contains 3 babies to produce and filter blood for him


[01-Dec-19 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LORD BEZOS**


[01-Dec-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Is this Death Stranding 2


[01-Dec-19 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to watch an LP of that


[01-Dec-19 04:57 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Dec-19 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I wish


[01-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I will buy Death Stranding when it is $20


[01-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I stand firm in suggesting people with a Switch buy _The Touryst_ instead.


[01-Dec-19 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, I wonder how hard she would've had the book thrown at her if she had had sex with female students instead


[01-Dec-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 years, probably.


[01-Dec-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
`I will buy Death Stranding when it is $20`


[01-Dec-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
bleh. Watch it, don't buy it.


[01-Dec-19 09:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a great movie, not so much a good game.


[01-Dec-19 09:55 AM] Opponent#3498
no replayability either.


[01-Dec-19 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b70788340dee4d82ab6078637ee0e002

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Biden launches Iowa trip with focus on Trump, rural America
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[01-Dec-19 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472460-poll-majority-of-republicans-say-trump-better-president-than-lincoln

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Poll: Majority of Republicans say Trump better president than Lincoln
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[01-Dec-19 01:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
majority of republicans deserve a bullet to the brain :shrugpony:


[01-Dec-19 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I like him because he;s not a politician, he;s a business man!"


[01-Dec-19 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch, most politicians are business men these days...


[01-Dec-19 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not even the good business men, most of them are the ones with failing businesses because they hate following regulations and paying their employees


[01-Dec-19 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/uiiquxp4iy141.jpg

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[01-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
'unarmed londoners'  😂


[01-Dec-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
they were armed with a fire extinguisher and a narwhal tusk


[01-Dec-19 03:55 PM] byte[]#2610
clearly we should make these standard arms


[01-Dec-19 03:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, first three got cut, but then the rest mobbed him.


[01-Dec-19 03:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that's something I guess xD


[01-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
also you really gotta appreciate a guy who had a fake suicide vest looking legit enough that police chose to shoot him, and the people still too dumb to recognise it. Like, in the context, that's the big deal, a knife projects at arm's length and is outclassed by basicly anything with longer reach once you know it's there.


[01-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
and it's _celebrated_.


[01-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
what can I say, the next one won't be fake.


[01-Dec-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-guns/u-s-supreme-court-weighs-challenge-to-new-york-gun-transport-limits-idUSKBN1Y50ZG

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U.S. Supreme Court weighs challenge to New York gun transport limits
The U.S. Supreme Court will hear its first major gun rights case in nearly a dec...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191201&t=2&i=1458926144&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB017C


[01-Dec-19 04:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/SarahTaber_bww/status/1200166974292140033

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[01-Dec-19 06:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/30/health/bacon-turkey-recall/index.html

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Bacon and ready-to-eat turkey products recalled in four states
A Kentucky company is recalling bacon and ready-to-eat turkey products over misbranding and undeclared allergens.
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[01-Dec-19 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-12-01/un-human-rights-committee-new-guidelines-for-child-pornography-express-deep-concerns-about-drawings/.152392

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[01-Dec-19 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/_qDsso1-vyA

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[01-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/nyregion/real-estate-industry-nyc.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/nyregion/real-estate-industry-nyc.html
Real Estate Thought It Was Invincible in New York. It Wasn’t.
How the industry that ruled the city plans to rebound after a rough year.
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[01-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
'“The lobbying strategy is different,” said Mr. Martin of CHIP. “It has to be different. This presumption that you just call up, you sit down with an elected official, you say, ‘This is what I need,’ and that’s it — that doesn’t work anymore. Everything needs a campaign behind it, it needs different voices, it needs tenants, it needs contractors who have been laid off.”'


[01-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking SCUM


[01-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
overall fair, but I feel the idea of 'do not use personal experience, use only what government-designated figures tell you' is a pretty poor message. That said, you clearly can't win either way, advertisers have thought of both angles, so... :/


[01-Dec-19 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
it gets into the philosophical somewhat


[01-Dec-19 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
personal experience is not a reliable path to truth


[01-Dec-19 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
peer reviewed science is


[01-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You missed his shitty misdirection, byte


[01-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He said gov't-designated figures


[01-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC from a previous argument, about Trump and the trans ban in the military


[01-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was this notion that Obama just like, summoned up magic data from nowhere


[01-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
in using a completely third-party study's findings


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that Trump's action to hand pikk people from the military as the only people to advise the trans ban was thus not bad


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
False equivalency


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
and how was that misdirection, then?


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Completely rejecting the entire idea of third parties being potentially actually neutral


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you're turning things away from an argument about actual epistemiology


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
that's exactly what I mean. Far from every decision is based on factual unbiased findings, and even those are less reliable than you'd like them to be.


[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/irradiatedmemes/status/1200972788477112320?s=19

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[01-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
by just saying that the gov't is controlling everything


[01-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazed how many people like this song because New Vegas


[01-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not controlling everything, rule of law is your schtick Nebbie.


[01-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But don't get it's a "MLK is bad" song


[01-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Opponent#3498
you people aren't there yet.


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, soccer moms aren't rejecting *gov't* advice


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're rejecting science itself


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
they're listening to adverts over government, more or less.


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
which doesn't work.


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about that tho


[01-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
for obvious reasons, it's 'wrong sometimes' and 'wrong always'.


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that soccer moms are like, people who think FPK told a good moral


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that you should accept with blind faith what your friend says for social convenience)


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
that's most people


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They often hav no actual science education


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Opponent#3498
FPK?


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but it has a gender slant to it, byte


[01-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers didn't want women learning and working


[01-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
hence married instead of college


[01-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Feeling Pinkie Keen


[01-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
the episode where the closest character in the entire series to a scientist


[01-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't use the scientific method in exploring a phenomenon


[01-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then the lesson is to just accept with blind faith what's going on at the end and don't worry about actually seeking truth


[01-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
well, when engaging the eldritch you have a choice of accepting it or going insane. Not exactly the same lesson, in context.


[01-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, for even *trying* to do things vaguely resembling an investigation, said character gets severely injured.


[01-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
But she could've *done tests*


[01-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just hav Spike drop some shit where Pinkie can't see


[01-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Might not be able to figure out the *how*, but the entire point was really the *whether*.


[01-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll go rewatch it. When last time you cited an episode you missed critical bits.


[01-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the people who wrote FPK don't know the scientific method, and to them, a 'scientist' is an anthropologist, doctor, or chemist going thru known truths only.


[01-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a fun sidenote, library fees are bullshit that hurts poor people, and the episode about such was like, showing exactly the reason why, with a fine that looked to be about equivalent to 60 fukking dollars, and it was all played for laffs.


[01-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
FiM writers are not the greatest at the whole understanding society and what actually makes for a good one etc.


[01-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
that, or maybe you literally see what you want to see in any media you consume.


[01-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there you go again with a baseless claim that my claims hav no merit because they're arbitrary rather than having evidence.


[01-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like you're allergic to actually evaluating claims.


[01-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
what's your factual claim then?


[01-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
let's hear it, so I can refute it one by one.


[01-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
last time when you cited cider sqeasy, you missed and/or ignored bits that nullified your argument. It's a one-off, but I've seen you react on other things in similar fashion.


[01-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
so, let's talk facts. You go first.


[01-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and I'll rewatch FPK in the meantime.


[01-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Library fees discourage the return of overdue books overall, and do not provide a financial reward justifying it. The episode about such showed a monetary sum that would be hard to pay for a destitute pony (bits are of uncertain monetary value, but in terms of food, which is historically the largest expense in a person's life on average, they're seemingly equivalent to between .5 and 2 dollars each), but that would be a pittance for such a large institution, and caused major stress for the protagonist even tho she was *able* to pay.


[01-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what?


[01-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
What parts of the cider ep did I miss?


[01-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I talked about how it was showing Mayor Mare was providing a gov't-controlled monopoly


[01-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
and exactly that is wrong. F&F forced the clause about monopoly into their agreement/competition.


[01-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that was my *point*


[01-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The putting on the table of a gov't monopoly shows that it's not reasonably expected for there to be competition.


[01-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, AJ's family bakk in the day had to directly ask for the land from the princess.


[01-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
there was never a monopoly before they suggested their idea.


[01-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is heavily implied that you cannot just plant apple trees on the area outside Ponyville.


[01-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Mayor Mare is indicating that it's standard practice to explicitly disallow competition.


[01-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
and they didn't 'ask for land'. They asked for a decent place to settle. Admittedly, a place next to Everfree and a portal to Hell isn't ideal, but it worked out for them.


[01-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, to tie things bakk a little, we DID get a snake oil episode, but it entirely focused on Flim and Flam using false advertising, with not a single mention of the idea that the product could actually be tested. I really doubt the writers know what clinical trials are.


[01-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Needing to ask for a place to settle strongly implies that the monarchy owns all land by default...


[01-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
MM is indicating that it's the rules they agreed by. Nothing else. It's entirely on Apple crew to get in over their head.


[01-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
less own, more make use of. Consider what planned ecosystem would imply.


[01-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't-enforced monopolies on production should not be on the table in a contest...


[01-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe not, but they were here. If anything, the law is too flexible in this regard to allow it. But it's not too oppressive.


[01-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't change the blame to the Apple Family.


[01-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty oppressive if the mayor can on a whim provide monopoly enforcement.


[01-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
they did agree to it. There wasn't any real pressure on them. Just pride.


[01-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pride is a source of pressure.


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the mayor of the damn city tells you there's nothing to lose but your dignity


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a contest over who gets a gov't-enforced monopoly


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is corrupt as shit


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
on the part of the mayor


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm glad that you did take into account the bits contradicting you and decided to read them your way.


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't should NEVER be going around publicly shaming people into giving up business competition


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
the law is immutable, and when it's not, it's  corruption.


[01-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
gotcha.


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
I keep saying that after reading you.


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right, I'm out of this discussion, you literally just twisted talking about publicly shaming a company as corruption


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
into being THE LAW MUST BE IMMUTABLE


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
fukk off, man.


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
likewise.


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't argue with anything resembling good faith.


[01-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
likewise.


[01-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I know you're wrong from the outset. There is no 'good faith' in terms that I can accept your line of reasoning. If I was on the fence or was partially in, I wouldn't bother starting.


[01-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
now you confirmed, that, no, I don't miss anything and facts are what they are. You just chose to read them through _corruption_-tinted glasses. Nothing to be done with that on my side.


[01-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
so I did rewatch it. There was at least a single instance of 'watch out for opening doors' that could not be perception treated like a superpower. (and summoning Celestia in person to recieve the letter was nifty)


[01-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x54y42s

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All things MLP
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My Little Pony: FiM S01E15 - Feeling Pinkie Keen - video dailymotion
Twilight Sparkle is obsessively determined to discover the secret of Pinkie Pie's uncannily accurate intuitions.
https://s2.dmcdn.net/v/IX04a1ToeJWLjMnHx/526x297


[01-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
10.03


[01-Dec-19 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking man there are way too many braindead chuds in that comments section for my body to withstand


[01-Dec-19 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Projection rampant too


[01-Dec-19 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People UNIRONICALLY using the "death is a preferable alternative to communism" meme nevermind that it's such an extremely obvious parody of red scare rhethoric


[01-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
plus. Chaos actively resisted being observed with intent (summoning hornets, being passive while vitals were recorded), most likely without Pinkie's involvement. Twilight _tried_ science, it didn't work. And in the end the choice (and lesson) was 'should you give people benefit of a doubt, IF you can't conclusively prove either way'. The answer was yes.


[01-Dec-19 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
and I do still believe it's a good lesson. It's not about anti-vaxxers or what the hell ever.


[01-Dec-19 10:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Better dead than red is what of a lot of people actually said. not really a parody more of a quote.


[01-Dec-19 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still, the historical quote was pretty fucking nonsensical and brainwashy


[01-Dec-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Twilight tried science"


[01-Dec-19 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you...not know what the scientific method is?


[01-Dec-19 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
step one is observation.


[01-Dec-19 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it failed there.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
step zero is hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it was set.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it all decisively crashed and burned at experimental/observation phase.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
What was the hypothesis?


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
Pinkie's stuff is bs.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it was more broad than this, but that's what it boiled down to.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is not a hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight did not hav a hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
A hypothesis and a null hypothesis must be made.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You then get observations that will disprove one of the two.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight had no hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her observations didn't disprove anything.


[01-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
how about: Pinkie's things are random, coincidental and/or accidental and are not, in fact, a premonition and/or a super power.


[01-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It must be disprovable


[01-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to narrow it further


[01-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
BIG EYEROLL I'M DOING IT.


[01-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hypothesis: Pinkie's bodily twitches are not caused by objects falling.


[01-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
To further make disprovable


[01-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
to narrow it down you already need some specific data. Her things are too varied without having a clear pattern past 'muh Pinkie sense'.


[01-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hypothesis: Pinkie's bodily twitching happens without objects falling.


[01-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
Pinkie's twitchy tail happens without objects falling, then.


[01-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Null hypothesis: Pinkie's bodily twitching only or almost only happens with objects falling.


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is EASILY testable


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight didn't NEED to get more data before doing a test.


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
However


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
she did not make this hypothesis


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
and did not test it.


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
All she did was make observations.


[01-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her observations did not disprove this hypothesis, nor any other apparent one.


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
"I think this is bullshit" isn't a hypothesis


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you think it is, you're shit at science.


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight's shit at science.


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the writers are.


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
you're really grasping at straws here...


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
like, it's really depressing.


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's always your go-to


[01-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
anytime someone has an actual argument


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what I always see.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
you, doing strawmans.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
you just dismiss it as grasping at straws.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
like, literally.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
do note, I don't have a problem with anyone else in this regard, whether or not I agree with them.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight's hypothesis being "Pinkie's powers aren't actually real" isn't scientific, it can't be disproved.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
so that means I formulated it wrong, then.


[01-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
fine. Sue me.


[01-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Twilight formulated it wrong, *that's the problem*


[01-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no digging and then you find that AKSHUALLY Twilight had a disprovable hypothesis.


[01-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The episode never presented a hypothesis, a null hypothesis, or any testing that could reasonably be used to disprove either.


[01-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And *that's the problem*.


[01-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight just watched Pinkie and chekked her vital signs


[01-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it did present how Chaos magic works in-universe though... operating perpendicular to logic and scientific method.


[01-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Watching without any way to affect things provides only correlation, not causation


[01-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Twilight's skepticism *was on causation*


[01-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
But she didn't even show correlation...


[01-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because her observations were incomprehensive


[01-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
How chaos magic works is irrelevant


[01-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is Twi's shit at science.


[01-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
because the writers are shit at science.


[01-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
If she knew how to apply the scientific method, she could've verified that Pinkie's chaos magic is actually a thing.


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
She wouldn't know anything about how it works or such


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it would be known *to* work.


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the magic resisted being passively observed.


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then she would've just been frustrated at not knowing further.


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then don't passively observe it


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to drop things nearby


[01-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
to see if Pinkie's body reacts


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
suddenly, the intent is relevant here. Do you intend to do it to test the theory?


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is High School level scientific method stuff.


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
because you can bet that just a random pony looking at Pinkie didn't get bees summoned on them.


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight's capability is relevant


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
if she isn't designing experiments


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
for what would EASILY be experimentable with


[01-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
she's not good at science.


[01-Dec-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be as easy as dropping a flower pot out severla windows


[01-Dec-19 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or an apple


[01-Dec-19 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, okay, fine, I'll grant you that it's probably possible to dilute the intent bit to simulate an 'non-intentional' occurence, and/or get results indicative of active countermeasures.


[01-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
try doing that in a 25min series format.


[01-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably possible if you're dead set on it.


[01-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
it would probably be actually interesting to watch.


[01-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
but it would be a hell of a thing for a show to pull off. Scientific method the episode, arriving to conclusion that you must test everything, **no matter the cost** (or something).


[01-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
considering the amount of filler here, I'd say they tried doing that but stumbled upon accessibility and decided to just go cartoonish with it.


[01-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of the production details of FPK leaked


[01-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
they spent time talking about like, which gags to use


[01-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think having Twi actually be a scientist was ever on the table.


[01-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lauren Faust is good at pumping out kids content and setting up characters, but not so much the details of things.


[01-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
(something something wirelessly-powered arcade cabinets in a 19th century world)


[01-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen several essays on that on fimfic, there's absolutely no reason why it wouldn't be a thing. But overall, you're probably right.


[01-Dec-19 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
even so though, while Twilight didn't start off with easily disprovable binary hypothesis, any observation at all proved consistently dangerous. That in itself would suggest _things_, and following through on them would be even more interesting, but way outside of the scope of a single ep.


[01-Dec-19 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
although now I kinda wish there was a 2-parter on something like this.


[01-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/472540-yang-raises-almost-750k-in-a-single-day

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Yang raises almost $750K in a single day
Presidential candidate Andrew Yang (D) raised almost $750,000 in a single day on Nov. 30, the largest fundraising haul in a 24-hour period during his campaign.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yangandrew_102119gn19_lead.jpg


[01-Dec-19 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/86ac620dd00045dc9a8f21900ee4cfdc

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‘I know Joe’s heart’: Why black voters are backing Joe Biden
After Kamala Harris challenged Joe Biden’s past opposition to school busing in a nationally televised Democratic presidential debate, the former vice president who prides himself on strong...
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[01-Dec-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
After Kamala Harris challenged Joe Biden’s past opposition to school busing in a nationally televised Democratic presidential debate, the former vice president who prides himself on strong relationships in the black community was in an unfamiliar place, playing defense on race.

But Bebe Coker had a message for the man she’s known for decades: don’t back down. The 81-year-old education activist remembered the history differently than Harris’ portrayal, recalling black parents encouraging Biden to reject forcing black students to attend white schools.

“I told him not to back down off of that,” Coker, who is black, said in an interview. “I know Joe’s heart. I guess that’s why I’m rather defensive of him. Joe has always been straight-up Joe. But when things come back at people that don’t look like us, they will say it’s racist because it doesn’t sound right when it’s coming out of somebody else’s mouth.”


[01-Dec-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/29/20988108/uno-nonpartisan-red-blue-veto

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Uno removes red and blue cards to try to keep politics out of games
We’re not totally sure that was the only political thing about Uno
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[01-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saw the new Rian Johnson movie Knives Out


[01-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only member of the asshole family that can do something is the 16 year old alt right troll


[01-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least he's got a lot of followers


[01-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Green Party erasure


[01-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Combined with normalization of vetoing


[01-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like corporate America to me.


[01-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Spoilers are not legitimate parties.


[01-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole "oh they move the opinion of the parties that get elected" I don't but think that's really true


[01-Dec-19 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think failed candidates within parties do that.


[01-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Green Party would be legitimate if Europe was a little further from its monarchist roots.


[01-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone talks big about action but in office they're just bankrolled by big oil.


[01-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Simply put, this whole idea of democracy with politicians awash with money is horrid.


[01-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Monetary interests are generally counter to Democracy.


[01-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
you're saying this like there's anywhere in the world that's significantly different.


[01-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that it's a unique failure


[01-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that Democracy is still in its infancy


[01-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
People replicated the US constitution before seeing how it could really get twisted


[01-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472542-substitute-teacher-removed-from-school-after-students-complain#

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Substitute teacher removed from school after students complain she...
A substitute teacher in Utah was removed from an elementary school after students complained she called homosexuality “wrong.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schoolbus_getty.jpg


[01-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other kids were begging her to stop ranting.


[01-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She blames the kid for setting her off.

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[01-Dec-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
:oof: 
:oof2:


[01-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
'One student, the son of former “Dancing with the Stars” coach Louis van Amstel, said he was “thankful that I’m finally going to be adopted by my two dads.”

Students said the teacher responded: “Why on earth would you be happy about that?” before talking for 10 minutes to the class about how “homosexuality is wrong,” and “two men living together is a sin.” She looked at the student who made the comment and said, “That’s nothing to be thankful for,” according to the Tribune. '

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[01-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
People like this should be fired.


[01-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are a teacher, at a school with kids, you do not respond to kids talking about their family life by questioning their family's choices.


[01-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's wholly inappropriate.


[02-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'm thankful my dad and his girlfriend are having Thanksgiving this year"


[02-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder if that would have gotten the same reaction


[02-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not by itself


[02-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've gotten the same reaction to say "I'm thankful my dad's girlfriend is moving in for the Holidays"


[02-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cohabitation before marriage is a sin, remember.


[02-Dec-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This reminds me of a very bigoted history teacher i had classes with in high school, one day he didn't teach anything, he just came up to class and ranted for the entirety of its 45 minutes against homossexuality


[02-Dec-19 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He kept saying something about cuddling men with hairy legs, it was pretty cringeworthy, i remember


[02-Dec-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
There was a teacher on my school who was suspended a year after I graduated for scolding a kid with a CSA belt buckle.


[02-Dec-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
The kid's family called in for a lawsuit and it was a whole shitshow


[02-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had great history teachers


[02-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really sad that it is seen as a "oh the coach is a teacher too, he teaches history so that's easy" thing


[02-Dec-19 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it was weird, all other history teachers i've had have been quite excellent but this one in particular was the embodiment of the worst things a boomer can have


[02-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My AP US History class had a German exchange student in it so that was fun.


[02-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't poke fun but others did


[02-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sad because she had really good insight that was helpful


[02-Dec-19 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let me guess, anything he could say was responded with, "but you gassed the Jews"


[02-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My AP Government class (which is basically just a US brainwashing course, not really civics) was taught by a Swede, who always said "no, I swear I married my husband for the right reasons"


[02-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, he was generic "murrica" and it was never really mean


[02-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She knew what she was getting into.


[02-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
"America stopped the Nazis. America good."


[02-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Reagan brought down the Berlin Wall, Reagan good."


[02-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
APUSH wasn't as bad as APGOV


[02-Dec-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though granted it's kinda hard to neccesarily defend East Germany. But then you also have to contextualize the DDR.


[02-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though at the very end learning about the 2000 election the teacher did say "All Gore had to do was win his home state so"


[02-Dec-19 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Not discussing the Hangy Chad's and the fucked political demographics of Florida


[02-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, it was funny being taught American propaganda in a class by a Swedish immigrant.

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[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
ChapoTrapHouseVsTheVillages.MP4


[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm absolutely amazed I learned about Stonewall.


[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
All my civics classes was the political processes of governnent


[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
We never went much into history.


[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a mix of suburban liberals and Republican ruralites


[02-Dec-19 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
But then I never did AP


[02-Dec-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I was a lousy highschool student back then


[02-Dec-19 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sometimes I wonder why I even managed to graduate.


[02-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AP is kinda a scam that's designed to stratify people right at the very start tbh


[02-Dec-19 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
I got a legit letter after the ceremony saying if I didn't improve my math I'd fail senior year, lmao


[02-Dec-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
AP Chem is the best thing you can take


[02-Dec-19 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because you learn anything


[02-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because if you pass the AP Chem test, it counts as having taken chemistry in college


[02-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And chemistry is a really shitty subject at the college level because it's taught en masse by teachers who don't giv a fukk in poorly-equipped labs with students helping out who don't know a damn thing, while being graded harshly because a lot of standards are strict about it.


[02-Dec-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half of that describes hvacclasses


[02-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I took AP Environmental.


[02-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically the joke class.


[02-Dec-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never took an advanced placement class


[02-Dec-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
special ed kind of killed my drive to succeed for awhile


[02-Dec-19 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hvac lab i take classes in though is poorly equipped and every request for new things gets denied by the admins


[02-Dec-19 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the units we;ve been practicing on are very old and a lot of systems now adays use control boards and technical stuff like that that we should be learning


[02-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
AP Calc test let me skip calc 1


[02-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
trouble is, AP calc was basically calc 1 and 2 together


[02-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
so annoyingly I had a whole semester of review


[02-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, some people come into college struggling to factor polynomials.


[02-Dec-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50613054

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Brazil's leader accuses DiCaprio over Amazon fires
The Hollywood actor dismisses Jair Bolsonaro's claim he "gave money to set the Amazon on fire".
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[02-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you can clearly tell he has Trump's picture on his work desk.


[02-Dec-19 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
he has trump's cock on his mind

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[02-Dec-19 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and his ass


[02-Dec-19 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/650733830117916722/rif-1575217425837.jpg

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[02-Dec-19 03:03 AM] ononim#8141
>these white russians are delicious


[02-Dec-19 03:03 AM] ononim#8141
Plotical Cartoon Vore

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[02-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like people forget a year ago the GOP said that no one interfered at all.


[02-Dec-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop bombards their base with so much propaganda they dont have time to remember anything from yesterday let alone a year ago


[02-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think I've seen a weaker Trump parody. Doesn't even sound like him.

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[02-Dec-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
> they dont have time to remember anything from yesterday let alone a year ago


[02-Dec-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not even propaganda...


[02-Dec-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
trump and his insane staff generate dozens of absolutely crazy headlines in any given week


[02-Dec-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's been exhausting to keep up


[02-Dec-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
_I_ can barely remember what the republicans said a week ago


[02-Dec-19 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
let alone a year


[02-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Treascair#7785
I mean, I saw an MSNBC article of "Three massive legal battles Rudy Giuliani's gotten himself involved in" or something to that effect, and my first thought was "holy shit, seriously? it's THAT bad?!"


[02-Dec-19 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
only three?


[02-Dec-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_populism

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Left-wing populism
Left-wing populism, or social populism, is a political ideology that combines left-wing politics and populist rhetoric and themes. The rhetoric of left-wing populism often consists of anti-elitist sentiments, opposition to the Establishment and speaking for the "common people...


[02-Dec-19 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
I heavily dislike how the dropdown menu of people shows both left and right wing populists


[02-Dec-19 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
it should show left wing only on the left wing page, and right wing only on the right wing page


[02-Dec-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
also, apparently the differentiation between them is that left-wing populism is "social populism", and right-wing populism is "national populism"


[02-Dec-19 04:54 AM] Crow#5457
I assume to stay in line with socialist vs nationalist, but the comparison doesn't really seem to hold up very well because you can have nationalist socialism, ie stalinism


[02-Dec-19 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Both Sides™


[02-Dec-19 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e4gvuq/the_corporate_medias_war_against_bernie_sanders/f9akdkw?context=3

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https://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e4gvuq/the_corporate_medias_war_against_bernie_sanders/f9akdkw?context=3
The Corporate Media’s War Against Bernie Sanders Is Very Real
Posted in r/politics by u/srsly_its_so_ez • 53,755 points and 7,162 comments
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[02-Dec-19 07:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/8xnz9b8ei3241.jpg

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[02-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I think that post is wrong to say that warren isn't progressive, just that she's not progressive enough


[02-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/24/elizabeth-warren-not-progressive

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Progressives, trust your gut: Elizabeth Warren is not one of us | ...
Warren loves to antagonize the super-rich – but her campaign seems suspiciously designed to stave off revolution
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[02-Dec-19 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
granted, she is definitely not as steady as bernie has been


[02-Dec-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
> But lately, Warren has finally begun to make her true feelings clear, and progressives no longer need to wonder whether she’s with us or not. She’s not. Warren released a Medicare for All plan that called it a “long-term” plan, which leftwing political analyst Ben Studebaker pointed out is “code to rich people for ‘this is all pretend’”.


[02-Dec-19 08:05 AM] Crow#5457
> A few weeks later, Warren confirmed that while in theory she supported single-payer healthcare, it would not be one of her primary initiatives, and she would initially push for a more moderate proposal similar to those advocated by Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg. Political analysts quickly saw Warren’s statement for what it was: an admission that she did not really intend to pass single-payer at all.


[02-Dec-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Recently Warren has given progressives even more cause for alarm. Instead of condemning an obvious rightwing coup in Bolivia (as Bernie Sanders did), and denouncing the seizure of power by Christian theocrats, Warren gave a tepid statement that recognized the legitimacy of the country’s new “interim leadership”.


[02-Dec-19 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
ok yeah, this is starting to sound pretty bad


[02-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
I always thought that warren sounded too good to be true, but she was talking the good talk and didn't really have much of a political track record to judge her with


[02-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1196519189583974402

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Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren)
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1196519189583974402
The Bolivian people deserve free and fair elections, as soon as possible. Bolivia's interim leadership must limit itself to preparing for an early, legitimate election. Bolivia's security forces must protect demonstrators, not commit violence against them. https://t.co/oDi...
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[02-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
> On Venezuela, Warren’s statements were even worse; she recently told Pod Save America that she believes the US should recognize the leader of the opposition as the legitimate president, and should maintain the sanctions that economist Jeffrey Sachs has said “are deliberately aiming to wreck Venezuela’s economy and thereby lead to regime change”. Sachs has called sanctions “a fruitless, heartless, illegal and failed policy, causing grave harm to the Venezuelan people”, yet Warren says she sides with Trump on the matter.


[02-Dec-19 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
turns out she was just a liberal, which is better than a neoliberal, but doesn't really solve any of the problems the US is currently having


[02-Dec-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
for a bit of context on that statement, norway has recently elected some liberals that're running their social democracy into the ground and causing a bunch of minor problems to pop up that will develop into major problems if the course isn't corrected


[02-Dec-19 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
in response to that, norwegians are voting back in social democrats


[02-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Expecting Warren to be Bernie is foolish.


[02-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's not Bernie.


[02-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's like, America's political center.


[02-Dec-19 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just so happens that the center looks like the left when you hav people openly advocating for discrimination, an end to all forms of welfare, and no legal immigration except for the rich.


[02-Dec-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the rich don't want the center.


[02-Dec-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want whoever won't regulate their businesses.


[02-Dec-19 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not scared she'll implement actual socialism, they're scared she'll cause a slow and steady degradation of their amassing of wealth.


[02-Dec-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're scared she'll put an end to ridiculous drug prices just as they were about to get the UK to agree that insulin should be worth its weight in gold, they're scared she'll do an actual tax overhaul that doesn't just add extra loopholes for them, and they're scared most of all that she will do things in sufficient increments that she will win reelection, and that Republicans will be unable to rebound later and turn things bakk towards supply-side economics only.


[02-Dec-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and she'd pass a federal minimum wage increase, which is a big deal.


[02-Dec-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In my state right now I'm pretty sure minimum wage is still under $9 an hour.


[02-Dec-19 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, my state has a special little thing where, for small businesses, if federal minimum wage weren't as high as it is, they could pay employees **$4/hour**


[02-Dec-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to the rich, Warren is far scarier than Bernie


[02-Dec-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's plans involve change on such magnitudes that most of it would fail outright.


[02-Dec-19 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's plans are just sufficiently palatable, to the rich they're like sugarcoated poison pills.


[02-Dec-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time Wall Street could amass political power to stop anything, it's too late, they're dead politically.


[02-Dec-19 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real treat with Warren is you could hav Bernie take control of the Senate for a bit.


[02-Dec-19 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
As moderate as she is, she couldn't really say no if liberals managed to get something to her desk.


[02-Dec-19 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6518b9a986f640c4899a979bbc48390b

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Official: Russian-owned company attempted Ohio election hack
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio detected and thwarted an election-related cyber attack earlier this month, the state's elections chief said. Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose said the...
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[02-Dec-19 03:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/armed-narwhal-tusk-fire-extinguisher-092751015.html

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Armed with a Narwhal tusk and a fire extinguisher: the heroes who ...
Footage taken by a passersby has revealed the sheer instinctive guts and determination of those who confronted Usman Khan in the moments after he carried out his murderous attack inside Fishmongers’ Hall.
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[02-Dec-19 03:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A Narwhal tusk...


[02-Dec-19 03:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Video in the link.


[02-Dec-19 03:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[02-Dec-19 03:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A very unconventional weapon


[02-Dec-19 04:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.abc.es/espana/galicia/abci-hombre-protesta-disfrazado-joker-ante-seguridad-social-porque-no-conceden-incapacidad-201911281334_noticia.html

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Un hombre protesta disfrazado de Joker ante la Seguridad Social po...
Asegura tener una minusvalía del 36% como consecuencia de varias lesiones sufridas en su trabajo «en el sector industrial»
https://static3.abc.es/media/espana/2019/11/28/joker-lugo-klKB--1024x512@abc.jpg


[02-Dec-19 04:03 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon sociedad...


[02-Dec-19 06:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/12/02/60-minutes-more-than-300-ads-by-trump-campaign-taken-down-by-google-and-youtube/

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'60 Minutes:' More Than 300 Ads by Trump Campaign Taken Down by Go...
More than 300 of President Donald Trump's political ads have taken down by Google and its video platform YouTube, mostly over the summer, according to a report by 60 minutes.
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[02-Dec-19 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1201551315085733888?s=19

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AFP news agency (@AFP)
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1201551315085733888?s=19
#BREAKING Brazil's Bolsonaro in plea for Trump understanding on tariffs
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Twitter


[02-Dec-19 06:44 PM] illumnious#7938
no https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1201550483120254977?s=20

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1201550483120254977?s=20
Not only did I see it @Doks_Art, I think it is fantastic. You are a wonderful artist, never give up your dream! https://t.co/LVVCUJz5CW
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[02-Dec-19 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1201558857564205057?s=21

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Trump War Room (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1201558857564205057?s=21
@JoeBiden Why "no coupons"?

WATCH: https://t.co/VXEUtI7rur
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1201558827004506112/pu/img/xFQlYB3xP-AhECG0.jpg
Twitter


[02-Dec-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
> In short, in the Framers’ view, free government was only suitable and sustainable for a religious people, a people who recognized that there was a transcendent moral order antecedent to both the state and to manmade laws and had discipline to control themselves according to those controlling principles

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/bill-barr-framers-view-free-government-was-only-suitable-and

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Bill Barr: ‘In the Framers’ View, Free Government Was Only Sui...
Attorney General Bill Barr at University of Notre Dame Law School, Oct. 11, 2019. (Screen Capture)


(CNSNews.com) - Attorney General Bill Barr spoke at the University of Notre Dame Law School on Friday, saying that the Framers of the U.S. Constitution believed that a “free...
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[02-Dec-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[02-Dec-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
seems like something I missed a few months back


[02-Dec-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not wrong though.


[02-Dec-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately for him, this overarching moral compass should have nothing to do with Christianity :D


[02-Dec-19 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
or any other institutionalised religion


[02-Dec-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
he actually is wrong


[02-Dec-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the framers didn't think that


[02-Dec-19 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the framers were notably _deists_ and largely did not believe in the value of religious practice


[02-Dec-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
but that is besides the point


[02-Dec-19 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
in short, Barr doesn't want to allow anyone freedom or democracy


[02-Dec-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
remember that the colonists were fleeing from a government which behaved as if only the religious ingroup had full rights


[02-Dec-19 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
and then consider the implications of what he is saying


[02-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
oh right, I kinda ignored the reference.


[02-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
well, he's trying to legitimise that same worldview he holds, about only religious ingroup being worthy, using the supposed ignorance of others.


[02-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I would expect that to be rather common, no?


[02-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not just on republican side, although for others christian justification wouldn't fly.


[02-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
What the *fukk* does it matter it's *common*?


[02-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is he is using a factually incorrect version of history to support his bullshit that is blatantly selfish and immoral.


[02-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically saying the very people who created a country where you wouldn't get burned at the fukking stake for being the wrong religion believed that everyone needed to follow the same religion for it to work.


[02-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because he WANTS to burn people at the stake for being the wrong religion.


[02-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't *matter* that there's a bunch of people in the bible belt who also hav views just as shitty and would gladly go around lynching gays and blakks while calling themselves "God's Chosen"


[02-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
by common I mean legitimising your worldview using ignorance of others.


[02-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should not be allowing people who blatantly try to revise history to twist things against the very principles the nation was founded on into gov't service at this high a level.


[02-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is the fukking Attorney General.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He decides who the feds do and do not prosecute.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I for one do not care what he says or why he says it. That's not the important bit. Your very own president already proved that in this brave new age, talk is cheap.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
granted, Barr looks like a genius next to him, but still.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy wields actual power.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
His warped view of our country was used to shield Trump from any allegations by the Mueller Report


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
so he does. And he will abuse it. Talk about that, not what he preaches on the mic.


[02-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has been further used to shield the report itself from coming out properly


[02-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it CONTINUES to shield officials in the Trump administration as they go against the country's best interests.


[02-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
What he preaches is very telling


[02-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you said this shit before being nominated as a judge, most senators would say no


[02-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
for THIS VERY REASON


[02-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump era has brought Republicans being so utterly unprincipled that they will appoint anyone Trump nominates.


[02-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barr has gotten worse from during the first Bush administration.


[02-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
(during which he got HW Bush to pardon officials involved in Iran-Contra, of course, cause Republicans gotta make sure none of their own face justice)


[02-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/02/trump-campaign-revokes-credentials-for-bloomberg-news-reporters.html

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Trump campaign revokes credentials for Bloomberg News reporters ov...
Bloomberg News declared it would refrain from investigating Mike Bloomberg or his Democratic primary rivals but would proceed with its coverage of Trump.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106263055-1574640824411gettyimages-1160684438.jpeg?v=1574640870


[02-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
More extortion.


[02-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another small bit for the giant pile of impeachable things Trump has done.


[02-Dec-19 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
who gets to actually decide if impeachment is going through or not? If there's a single answer and not a process like ours, which can be summed up as 'forget it'.


[02-Dec-19 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
the House


[02-Dec-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
trump will almost certainly be impeached


[02-Dec-19 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
and almost certainly will not be removed


[02-Dec-19 08:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/zelensky-tells-trump-please-stop-saying-ukraine-is-corrupt

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Zelensky Tells Trump: Please Stop Saying Ukraine Is Corrupt
The Ukraine president says he’s told Trump that it’s not helpful to repeatedly accuse his government of corruption.
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[02-Dec-19 08:59 PM] byte[]#2610
> He'll stop, but he'd like you to do him a favor, though...


[02-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Treascair#7785
it's more that if he's impeached and not removed, then everyone else in government can point to that and go "yo, the Senate isn't doing their jobs and is actively trying to derail things to keep their guy in power at the expense of all legal precedent"


[02-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
not removed, meaning he'll finish the term but will be unable to go for the 2nd one?


[02-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
what does impeachment actually entail?


[02-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Treascair#7785
quick and dirty version:  If he's impeached by the House and not removed by the Senate (despite all this evidence and legal standards that say they not only should, but *must*, and yes, that's actually in the legal code), then that's basically telling the American public "One part of the government is actively working not only against the interests of half the country, but of the entire American judicial system", and it rather becomes a legal free for all to try to get the offending senators removed, since they're not doing their duty as elected legislators, and intent more on keeping power for themselves instead of serving the people that elected them and the country writ large.  There will be legal notices put forth by the House to do their jobs.  If the Senate refuses, they will be held in contempt of Congress, and if they still refuse... they'll be arrested by the Sergeant At Arms and put in jail, and their deputy will assume the senator's responsibilties until said senator does their fucking job.


[02-Dec-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
he can do whatever he wants if he's not removed


[02-Dec-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
tl;dr impeachment is charging an executive or judicial branch officer with a crime, this is done by the HoR


[02-Dec-19 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
removal is the actual trial of the individual for that crime


[02-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Treascair#7785
I mean, Barr's pretty much on the legal chopping block too.


[02-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
messy.


[02-Dec-19 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/1VOHiyj.jpg

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Jeff Sessions has announced a new 'religious liberty task force'. I don't think the Founding Fathers of America would agree with that.
https://i.imgur.com/1VOHiyj.jpg


[02-Dec-19 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
(from a year ago)


[02-Dec-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nj.com/opinion/2019/12/trumps-food-stamp-reforms-would-plunge-more-into-poverty-opinion.html

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Trump’s food-stamp ‘reforms’ would plunge more into poverty ...
Even one of these three proposals, if implemented, could have devastating effects on millions of struggling Americans, even if the other two weren’t put into place.
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[02-Dec-19 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Stealing from the poor to give to the rich


[02-Dec-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the food stamp reform shit is still going...


[02-Dec-19 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/01/boris-johnson-election-issue-london-bridge-attack

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London Bridge attack: Boris Johnson ignores family’s plea not to...
Prime minister accused of ‘distasteful’ attempt to turn London Bridge attack into election issue
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[02-Dec-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/lisa-page-fbi-trump-fake-orgasm-rally-2019-12

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https://www.businessinsider.com/lisa-page-fbi-trump-fake-orgasm-rally-2019-12
Ex-FBI official Lisa Page says Trump's relentless attacks and 'deg...
The president has singled out Page in his attacks on the Russia investigation since the release of critical messages between her and Peter Strzok.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5de4e61dfd9db210ff3fdc23?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/472672-house-judiciary-announces-impeachment-witnesses#

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House Judiciary announces impeachment witnesses
The House Judiciary Committee on Monday unveiled a witness panel of four constitutional scholars for its first impeachment hearing this week.
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[02-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why Turley


[02-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like getting Dershowitz


[02-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
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[03-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
:dab:


[03-Dec-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's dedication.


[03-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
gotta be consistent.


[03-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Treascair#7785
I mean, points for owning your idiocy


[03-Dec-19 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Consistency in your racism _almost_ makes it okay.


[03-Dec-19 06:21 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf3adAPotrM
This appeared in my recommend

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[03-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-rep-duncan-hunter-after-claiming-witch-hunt-plead-guilty-n1094466

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GOP Rep. Hunter, after claiming 'witch hunt,' to plead guilty to m...
The California lawmaker was reported to have used the money for trips abroad, bar tabs, affairs and more.
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[03-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So either he resigns, or becomes the 6th person ever thrown out of the House, and either way, his seat goes vacant all the way until, like, April


[03-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of Trump's best allies in the House.


[03-Dec-19 07:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can this happen with nunes too?


[03-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is he currently under investigation?


[03-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like


[03-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hunter was indicted last year. In *August*.


[03-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very slow process to accuse politicians of crimes.


[03-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/23/democrat-says-devin-nunes-investigation-likely-073109

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Top Dem says ethics investigation into Devin Nunes likely
It follows a report that an associate of Rudy Giuliani has information on meetings the Republican allegedly had with the former Ukrainian prosecutor general.
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[03-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, this is way too late


[03-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time this actually gets him thrown out, he might hav already lost reelection.


[03-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could censure him tho if Trump gets removed. There'd be political inertia for it.


[03-Dec-19 12:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://kotaku.com/youtube-is-relaxing-its-rules-against-video-game-violen-1840157320

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YouTube Is Relaxing Its Rules Against Video Game Violence
In a “Policy enforcement update” posted earlier today, YouTube announced a series of changes coming to the site’s content moderation, most of them centred around new distinctions between actual real-world violence and the “scripted or simulated violence” you see in ...
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[03-Dec-19 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
:faceclaw:


[03-Dec-19 12:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey, it's progress


[03-Dec-19 01:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, does this mean I can make a live action video with a lot of red paint?


[03-Dec-19 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as it's clear it's not real and the video isn't focused on it


[03-Dec-19 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(and you want to monetize it)


[03-Dec-19 03:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/03/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html

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Markets shudder after Trump warns China trade war could go beyond ...
Happy Tuesday. A version of this story first appeared in CNN Business' Before the Bell newsletter. Not a subscriber? You can sign up right here.
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[03-Dec-19 03:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Beyond what?


[03-Dec-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The year, and possibly beyond the 2020 elections


[03-Dec-19 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump likely thinks he can milk the negotiations forever


[03-Dec-19 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"negotiations", rather; afaik he just blurts shit out and everyone has to scramble to deal with it


[03-Dec-19 04:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump also just slapped tariffs on a lot of countries this week


[03-Dec-19 04:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as Brazil, despite Bolsonaro being a loyal lapdog of his

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[03-Dec-19 04:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/shBwf97O7zk

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[03-Dec-19 05:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614781/all-new-cellphone-users-in-china-must-now-have-their-face-scanned/

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All new cell phone users in China must now have their face scanned
The news: Customers in China who buy SIM cards or register new mobile-phone services must have their faces scanned under a new law that came into effect yesterday.
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[03-Dec-19 05:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cyberpunk 2019


[03-Dec-19 05:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Is face technology good enough to see difference in Asian people yet? Many wemon in China can unlock eachothers iPhones with their face. How can they be sure they are getting the right person?


[03-Dec-19 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine that could be an issue for western-made tech, but this would be made by and for the place


[03-Dec-19 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/472807-cnns-bianna-golodryga-rumblings-within-democrats-on-censuring-trump-instead-of

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CNN's Bianna Golodryga: 'Rumblings within Democrats' on censuring ...
CNN senior global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga said Tuesday that she's  hearing “rumblings” within the Democratic caucus that perhaps the party “should just go with censure” instead of trying to impeach President Trump.
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[03-Dec-19 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/tabletmag/status/1201861422193561600

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[03-Dec-19 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1201923942589616128?s=20

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NEWS - Kamala Harris is dropping out of the presidential election today, I'm told reliably. She's informing staff now.
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[03-Dec-19 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What a cop out

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[03-Dec-19 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to censure is missing the damn point, Republicans don't want to admit fault, because the moment you hav to admit fault, approval tanks because many people just bow to whatever the "official" stance is.


[03-Dec-19 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, YouTube sounds like it's just now going to get a ton of gaming channels trapped up in COPPA BS, and this is probably the point of the move.


[03-Dec-19 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Censure would at least let Democrats have an advantage


[03-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also if this didn't result in removal then basically impeachment would be completely and utterly useless. It would basically make the executive even more powerful, it would embolden future presidents to do worse.


[03-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could have a president actually shoot someone and not have anything happen. If we have the precedent of impeachment not resulting in removal for _this_ I don't think it could ever be used again.


[03-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do note I think Clinton should have been removed from office. Perjury is perjury.


[03-Dec-19 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
we'd probably have had gore if he'd been removed


[03-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
what was Clinton's actual crime? Lying under oath?


[03-Dec-19 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
he lied about getting a bj from monica lewinsky


[03-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[03-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring does not giv Dems any advantage, Its


[03-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has the same success chances as impeachment, realistically.


[03-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand, Republicans are *against admitting fault*


[03-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring to them would mean a loss.


[03-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They know that the game is to avoid any official declaration of being in the wrong.


[03-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because voters listen to official declarations.


[03-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clinton was getting investigated for some real estate shenanigans and in an effort to be "fully transparent" got caught lying about his extramarital affairs


[03-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some Republicans would vote for censure.


[03-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
None would vote to impeach.


[03-Dec-19 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/01/guns-supreme-court-second-amendment-new-york/4251054002/

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Supreme Court may expand Second Amendment rights despite repeal of...
The nation's highest court may be on the verge of expanding gun rights for the first time in nearly a decade. What's surprising is how it got there.
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[03-Dec-19 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/12/justices-debate-allowing-state-law-to-be-hidden-behind-a-pay-wall/

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Justices debate allowing state law to be “hidden behind a pay wa...
An open-government activist published Georgia law online. Then the state sued.
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[03-Dec-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/472839-read-house-intelligence-committee-impeachment-report

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Read: House Intelligence Committee impeachment report
Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released a lengthy memo T
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[03-Dec-19 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
> Are they sure they can’t make the law any more explicitly pay to win? Maybe the state of Georgia should start selling loot boxes with a small chance to win the right to amend laws in your own favour, or maybe some get out of jail free cards.


[03-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like that issue I had a while back, when I needed state construction regulations for school project, they were behind paywall.


[03-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EK4svVGWwAMnky3?format=jpg&name=large

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[03-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-find-way-to-treat-deadly-pancreatic-cancer-in-14-days-609647

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Israeli scientists find way to treat deadly pancreatic cancer in 1...
The tumor in one mouse that was injected with human cancer cells completely disappeared.
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[03-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
putting laws behind paywalls, the real big brain play.


[03-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
imo nothing says 'capitalism' quite as clearly as decisions like this one.


[03-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://deadline.com/2019/11/leonardo-dicaprio-responds-accused-bankrolling-amazon-rainforest-fires-brazilian-president-1202797491/

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Leonardo DiCaprio Responds To Accusations Of Bankrolling Amazon Ra...
Leonardo DiCaprio has responded to Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro’s wild accusations that he’s been bankrolling the Amazon rainforest fires. Bolsonaro made the unfounded claims on Frid…
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[03-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
meh, I expected a sick burn and was disappointed.


[03-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-challenger-suspended-from-twitter-after-tweeting-omar-could-be-hanged-for-treason

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Ilhan Omar's GOP challenger blasts Twitter after account suspended...
A Republican challenging Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., in 2020 reportedly had her Twitter accounts permanently suspended this week after she tweeted that the congresswoman should potentially be hanged for treason.
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[03-Dec-19 09:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dominic-raab-brexit-nhs-privatisation-trump-us-drugs-price-increase-a9230661.html

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Tory minister admits US will be able to raise prices for drugs bou...
Asked if Washington would be able to ‘jack up prices’, Dominic Raab replies: ‘The Americans will take their decisions’
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[03-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/03/politics/house-intelligence-committee-report/index.html

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Democrats release impeachment report detailing 'overwhelming' evidence
House Democrats say evidence of President Donald Trump's misconduct and obstruction of Congress is "overwhelming," charging that Trump's conduct toward Ukraine compromised national security in a new report released Tuesday that will form the backbone of the impeachment procee...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191121162057-37-impeachment-hearing-1121-schiff-super-tease.jpg


[03-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/03/politics/intelligence-report-phone-records-devin-nunes/index.html

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Democrats obtained phone records showing how Trump allies coordina...
Armed with never-before-seen phone records, Democrats on Tuesday accused President Donald Trump's allies of coordinating with a conservative journalist to peddle "false narratives" about Trump's opponents as part of his multi-pronged pressure campaign on Ukraine.
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[03-Dec-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/472862-nunes-files-defamation-suit-against-cnn-over-ukraine-story

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Nunes files defamation suit against CNN over Ukraine story
Rep.
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[03-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't have a cow, man


[03-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/it-s-a-miracle-helsinki-s-radical-solution-to-homelessness

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‘It’s a Miracle’: Helsinki’s Radical Solution to Homelessn...
Finland is the only EU country where homelessness is falling. Its secret? Giving people homes as soon as they need them – unconditionally.
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[03-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, not a new article, dang.


[03-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God it's weird seeing John Solomon be at the center of all of this


[03-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[03-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans' current MO


[03-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
is to use the media as a weapon


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
put out opinion pieces stating completely untrue things


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
then enact policies based on them


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's fascism 1010


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note especially, their big narrative is that THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA lies to you


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's very synergistic.


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives should like


[03-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
By making you distrust center and left outlets, it herds you towards their right-wing policy justifiers


[03-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
simultaneously, if anyone calls out their right-wing nonsense, they say it's evidence the media is lying to you.


[03-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Use deepfakes/cut together footage of Republicans supporting Dem policies and say they're real


[03-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Finally, if you reject their right-wing policy justifiers, they say it's only fair that you reject CNN too.


[03-Dec-19 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about poisoning the well with their own flavor-aid.


[03-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HJC will draft articles one assumes


[03-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I find it interesting that Zelensky was what, a day or two away from a CNN interview giving Trump what he wanted before he stopped because this came to light


[03-Dec-19 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well he needed the secured military support. Arguably more than the materiel, the US approval it symbolises.


[03-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and if that was the price, well.


[03-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said no qpq but also said that the US just couldn't do this to a partner


[03-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
well he'd say what he and his advisors think is right at any given moment. It's not their ball to play, they can really only react, in a manner that would not discourage cooperation. There is no single strategy to it, so it'd probably be somewhat inconsistent at times.


[03-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media is very important for keeping their ears to the ground, Its.


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
An independent media is the thing that can prevent slides into fascism.


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
One story to light a fire, the fire spreads, etc.


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
NYT, CNN, and WaPo in the last few years hav been amazing at this.


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They regularly uncover things like that Trump cheated taxes in the past


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that his organization is cheating taxes


[03-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That all matters.


[03-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We need a journalist to be president.


[03-Dec-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the phrase "i like him because he's not a politcian" is dumb, the minute he steps into politics he becomes a politician


[03-Dec-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1201537557202395137

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Apparently one of the reasons Warren abandoned Medicare for All is because her supporters are overwhelmingly affluent and likely to have Cadillac health insurance https://t.co/higlNv9pXh
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[03-Dec-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Death to the manager class


[03-Dec-19 11:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Crashing this campaign


[03-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again


[03-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
anyone who thinks Warren and Bernie are the same thing isn't paying attention.


[03-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is like, a centrist


[03-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's not Hillary, but she's not gonna push socialism.


[03-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's a capitalist who recognizes that for the sake of her party she needs to actually take a few whakks at neoliberalism.


[03-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P00014100/?cycle=2020&election_full=true

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DICKUS, BIGGUS - Candidate overview - FEC.gov
Explore current and historic federal campaign finance data on the new fec.gov. Look at totals and trends, and see how candidates and committees raise and spend money. When you find what you need, export results and save custom links.
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[04-Dec-19 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
``` We don't have DICKUS, BIGGUS for 2019–2020.

This can be because:

    We’re still processing the data. Try looking for raw versions of committee filings. Raw files are only available for electronic filers.
    No one filed this type of activity during the time period.
    The filing deadline hasn’t passed yet.```


[04-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/472902-texas-lawmaker-announces-retirement-after-saying-primary

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Texas lawmaker announces retirement after saying primary opponents...
A Texas state GOP lawmaker who suggested his primary opponents were running
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[04-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
what a RINO


[04-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
he didn't double down on his bullshit like a true republican


[04-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/472916-collins-opposes-trumps-district-court-pick#

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Sen.
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[04-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pitlyk not only opposes abortion


[04-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She opposes _surrogacy_


[04-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also thought it was "Pittle Yick" but it's actually "Pit Lick"


[04-Dec-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such names US politicians have


[04-Dec-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Buttigieg, Pitlyk, Klobuchar, Pelosi


[04-Dec-19 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Pitlyk — who serves as the special counsel for the Thomas More Society, a conservative law firm—told the National Catholic Register that “surrogacy is harmful to mothers and children, so it’s a practice society should not be enforcing."


[04-Dec-19 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why doesn't this woman just go back to licking her pits

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[04-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fox-news-tucker-carlson-russia-trump-putin-ukraine-conflict-impeachment-a9230551.html

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Fox News' Tucker Carlson says US ‘should take the side of Russia...
TV host doubles down on support for Putin after ‘joking’ about ‘rooting for Russia’ last week
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[04-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> Mr Carlson added: “The irony, of course, is that Putin, for all his faults, does not hate America as much as many of these people [US journalists] do. They really dislike our country.”


[04-Dec-19 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇷🇺


[04-Dec-19 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazbol Tucker


[04-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.gq.com/story/trump-is-waging-war-on-american-diplomats

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Trump Is Waging War on America's Diplomats
And the impeachment inquiry is only making things worse. With new figures and fresh horror stories, Julia Ioffe reports on how the president is politicizing our embassies, alienating our allies, and decimating the ranks of the foreign service.
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[04-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
> According to AFSA, 52 percent of America’s ambassadors are political appointees. This is the highest proportion since AFSA started keeping count in 1960. The last time the number of politically appointed ambassadors was this high was Ronald Reagan’s second term, when the proportion of political ambassadors peaked at 37 percent. “We are concerned that the percentage of political appointees is the highest it’s ever been,” says Rubin, the AFSA president. “This really hurts us overseas to carry out the president’s policy and to defend national security interests.”


[04-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
> After all, these political appointees, who are often diplomatic novices, are usually facing off against highly trained, disciplined, professional diplomats from countries like Russia and China, which don’t have any politically appointed ambassadors. “China has only professional, not political appointees, and our ambassadors are not always taken seriously,” says one current foreign service official. “We are very often outmatched and outgunned and frequently outmaneuvered these days.”


[04-Dec-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo

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YouTube
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[04-Dec-19 02:54 AM] ononim#8141
boooooooooooooooooooooooi


[04-Dec-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
new shaun video


[04-Dec-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
>more than two hours


[04-Dec-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
:nut:


[04-Dec-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
but uhh


[04-Dec-19 02:55 AM] ononim#8141
I think it has to wait for tomorrow


[04-Dec-19 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MapacheRants/status/1201972710168907776

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[04-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Waiting for the Animal Crossing boycott from the right now.


[04-Dec-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also really, the first version of the game to be localized in Latin American Spanish?


[04-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
what's political about this?


[04-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Assuming that someone is outraged somewhere.


[04-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, by that standard everything is political (everything IS political, but not for that reason)


[04-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
there's always someone somewhere outraged by literally any little tiny, seemingly non-political, detail


[04-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Macarou#9574
What is the reason? If It's okay to ask.


[04-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the first game in the main series to allow you to pick your own race


[04-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oddly, it's also the first to allow you to pick northern or southern hemisphere seasons too


[04-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
politics is a system created by humans to solve problems, any time there's a group of people involved, everything will inevitably become political at some point because that's the only way of solving problems which crop up between members that doesn't just boil down to "let's kill everyone who doesn't agree with me", which even then is a political outcome


[04-Dec-19 04:01 AM] Macarou#9574
Ah. Thanks.


[04-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
People say they "don't want politics in my __", but what they really mean is they don't like that something took a side that's not their view.


[04-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, this tends to apply to things that are explicitly artistic.


[04-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
or maybe just drama hurting the product.


[04-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
case in point, Blizzard and HK.


[04-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's different


[04-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
granted, the damage proved to be minimal at worst.


[04-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I don't want politics in my game" isn't the Blizzard thing


[04-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It refers specifically to when there is content in the game that supports a particular political stance.


[04-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blizzard's stuff doesn't contain political stances on Hong Kong


[04-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
ah. Right, I misunderstood then.


[04-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The controversy was about *the actions of Blizzard* towards players with political stances expressed during event broadcasts.


[04-Dec-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and nobody has really expressed a desire to forbid political stances expressed, except the Chinese gov't)


[04-Dec-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The controversy is worsened cause Americans regularly bring pro-LGBT rights messages to events, and no action is taken


[04-Dec-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but say a word about Hong Kong and you might lose your prize money


[04-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, "I don't want politics in my Call of Duty" and similar is a particularly stupid sentiment often repeated by people who see their favorite game genre suddenly in the middle of bombing foreigners tell them that maybe it's wrong to hate people possibly kinda.


[04-Dec-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare a work explicitly about the politics of warfare and implementing it on the ground level express a view about anything going on in the storyline etc. etc.


[04-Dec-19 06:42 AM] jlun2#8758
The posts here makes it look like Republicans are politically invincible, unchanging, and eternal.


[04-Dec-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They would like to believe they are


[04-Dec-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And they've done everything they possibly can to make that happen


[04-Dec-19 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The rest of us choose to disagree.


[04-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't unchanging, that's for sure.


[04-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's impressive how politically invincible they are.


[04-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole strategy is like, Chancellor Palpatine


[04-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except even more obvious


[04-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just deny being a Sith Lord as you kill Mace Windu on live TV


[04-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean force lightning is a dark side power? I'm only using it because the Jedi were building a secret second clone army on Kaminoo


[04-Dec-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, people giv Lucas a lot of shit for Palpatine winning but I think it's clear at this point that it's actually fairly realistic.


[04-Dec-19 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can tell you what before 2019 I believed China would honor Hong Kong being independent until 2047


[04-Dec-19 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now I doubt they'll wait another five years and no one will start WWIII because "Why Die for Hong Kong?"


[04-Dec-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I fully expect open PLA executions in Hong Kong by 2025 and no one cares.


[04-Dec-19 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expected this.


[04-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment I learned about the 50-year agreement, I knew there were only two ways it could end


[04-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
China crushing HK's independence in 2047


[04-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or China crushing it earlier.


[04-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the latter was always more likely.


[04-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the UK gonna do?


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically just made China pinkie promise.


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
China, the schoolyard bully.


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Get NATO involved? Because the US would care to defend Hong Kong?


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turns out that didn't work.


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haaaaahahahhahahahhahahahha


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahhahahhaha


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
GET NATO INVOLVED


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[04-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man you were idealistic as fukk, weren't you?


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the history of international relations


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I assume that's what they expected. Would never work.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
that shit has basically never nhappened.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What China wants China gets.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody uses military force to enforce treaties.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just go to war over the Paracels already you cowards.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only time people use military force is when their own borders are threatened.


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, the UK creamed China in the opium wars


[04-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that wasn't because China fukked up trade agreements


[04-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because they fukked up UK trade


[04-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nations are selfish fukkholes


[04-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UN is powerless


[04-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
NATO is just a modern massive defense pact.


[04-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a ton of showboating every time Russia gets antsy.


[04-Dec-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Picture this


[04-Dec-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
We will not hav sane international relations until we get something like the UN but that actually uses military force


[04-Dec-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that would need relatively even country strengths


[04-Dec-19 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia rolls tanks into Estonia tomorrow


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing would happen from the West.


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
IF we had a situation where


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
no one country had over 10% of the world's military forces


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the UN controlled 10%


[04-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then suddenly you would get the UN stomping around on countries that refuse to follow the rules.


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the UN has Russia, China, and the US on it


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and each has veto power


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if any military action goes against their interests, that's that, it ain't happening.


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's thus no way to go against them.


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's also the UK and France


[04-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK notably having islands fukking everywhere.


[04-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus many reasons to avoid intervention.


[04-Dec-19 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9e6ed8508829447eb2f95a2293c2337a

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China and US clash over Xinjiang, Hong Kong bills
BEIJING (AP) — Already strained relations between China and the United States were further muddied after U.S. Congress overwhelmingly approved a bill targeting Beijing’s mass crackdown on ethnic...
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[04-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```Picture this
Russia rolls tanks into Estonia tomorrow
Nothing would happen from the West```


[04-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Opponent#3498
I mentioned before, Baltic states are probably our staunchest supporters. They picture this quite clearly as well xD


[04-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Opponent#3498
and they have much less fighting chance than we do.


[04-Dec-19 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
```“It is regrettable that U.S. Congress has not only turned a blind eye to Xinjiang’s efforts to combat terrorism and protect human rights in accordance with laws and regulations, but also to Xinjiang’s current economic development, social stability, national unity and religious harmony,” ```


[04-Dec-19 10:20 AM] Opponent#3498
factually correct. It's according to _their_ law, those _are_ the goals stated in official documents, and a perfect symbol of stability, unity and harmony would be a graveyard, upon which a trade center is being built.


[04-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
preferably by drones or zombies, so as not to disrupt unity and such.


[04-Dec-19 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
they really play this game well.


[04-Dec-19 01:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-phone-records

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Hugely Incriminating Phone Records Suggest Giuliani Is F---ed
The president’s lawyer should probably get a lawyer.
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[04-Dec-19 01:29 PM] byte[]#2610
MAGA
My Attorneys Got Arrested


[04-Dec-19 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
giuliani should skip the trial lawyer and go straight for a funeral attorney to read his will when he inevitably crashes and burns under the bus


[04-Dec-19 03:28 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Dec-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if FOX realizes they just called their Golden Emperor a bitch

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[04-Dec-19 03:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-trudeau-nato-summit-press-conference-macron-boris-johnson-latest-a9232496.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1575466611

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Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced', cancels press conference and leav...
‘I called him out on the fact he’s not paying 2 per cent, and I guess he’s not very happy about it,’ says US president
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[04-Dec-19 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnnlive/


[04-Dec-19 04:38 PM] ononim#8141
God if Trump presidency results in dissolution of NATO that would be Epic


[04-Dec-19 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Requesting role call on each vote is such a skeezy tactic


[04-Dec-19 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456518525264068608/651804544027590676/232498-619x500.png

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[04-Dec-19 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
Im kinda suprised there's no giant statue of him yet.


[04-Dec-19 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
at least not one in a place of significance.


[04-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/01/francis-vatican-pachamama-amazon-morales-catholicisms-civil-war-spills-into-bolivia/

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Catholicism’s Civil War Spills Into Bolivia
The pope is reaching out to indigenous people, and the right aren’t happy.
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[04-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
```The Vatican’s outreach to indigenous groups matters, especially within the context of a Latin American Catholicism that has often equated natives with the devil. As right-wing Bolivians celebrate the ouster of an indigenous president and the supposed return of the Bible to politics, these issues are not just ones of theological or doctrinal debate but are politically critical.```


[04-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
```In South and Central America, these events are even more charged. The events at the synod are a reminder of the tense history between indigenous people and the Roman Catholic Church. While the church, especially the Jesuits, sometimes sought to protect indigenous people from secular rulers, forced conversion and the conviction of the conquistadors that they were there to spread God’s word have left a bitter legacy. For many right-wing Catholics there today, indigenous religion is literally devil-worship. The equation of indigenous deities with Catholic saints or as manifestations of a greater divine is seen as particularly dangerous, syncretism infiltrating the heart of the church itself.
That heritage is particularly complex in Bolivia. Up until 2009, Bolivia had Roman Catholicism enshrined as its state religion; the revision of the Bolivian Constitution made the country into a secular state and secured the rights of practitioners of indigenous religions. That was a powerful change. The indigenous people of Bolivia were not allowed to vote until 1952, and they only received the right to enter the main streets and plazas of the cities in the last half of the 20th century—prejudices stamped and sanctioned by the Catholic Church of the time.
This revision of the Bolivian Constitution happened under Evo Morales, the now former president of Bolivia. While Morales is a Roman Catholic, he did not consider himself to be devout and claimed he was Catholic only to attend weddings; he also framed his environmental policy in terms of defending Pachamama—in much the same way that a Californian might talk of Gaia.```


[04-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
```When Morales resigned, Luis Fernando Camacho, one of the right-wing opposition activists calling for Morales’s removal, stormed into the presidential palace. While standing next to Camacho, a pastor announced: “The Bible is returning to the government palace. Pachamama will never return! Today Christ is returning to the government palace. Bolivia is for Christ.” This attitude is shared by the interim Bolivian president, Jeanine Áñez, who proclaimed that “The Bible has returned to the palace!”```


[04-Dec-19 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being so assmad at another person for having the wrong religion that you want to kill them


[04-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/473031-gop-lawmaker-amazing-democrats-would-ask-if-founding-fathers-would-back-trump

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GOP lawmaker: 'Amazing' Democrats would ask if founding fathers wo...
Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.) ripped Democrats for asking a witness whether the nation's founding fathers would back President Trump's impeachment, exclaiming his amazement that they would ask such a question.
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[04-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/04/europe/france-jewish-cemetery-swastikas-intl/index.html

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Swastikas sprayed on more than 100 graves in Jewish cemetery in France
French police have launched an investigation after Nazi swastikas and anti-Semitic graffiti were spray-painted on 107 graves in a Jewish cemetery near Strasbourg.
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[04-Dec-19 08:13 PM] ononim#8141
oof


[04-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/03/world/europe/ukraine-impeachment-military-aid.html

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By Andrew E. Kramer
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/03/world/europe/ukraine-impeachment-military-aid.html
Ukraine Knew of Aid Freeze in July, Says Ex-Top Official in Kyiv
Ukraine’s government learned of the military aid freeze during the Trump administration’s pressure campaign — and tried to keep that knowledge from going public, an ex-deputy foreign minister said.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/02/world/02ukraine/02ukraine-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Dec-19 08:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice, GOP has moved on fully from "BUT HER EMAILS" to "BUT BIDEN"


[04-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, officer, I did shoot my neighbor with a crossbow, but I swear that I thought his dad was a werewolf, so I was just defending myself by ambushing him when he was on vacation.


[04-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people really think that impeachment is a partisan thing to those who support it


[04-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[04-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A Democrat who did what Trump did absolutely should be impeached and removed.


[04-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are part of the reason why.


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their impeachment of Clinton was incredibly partisan.


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is their strategy.


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He should have been impeached and removed.


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make it clear they're being partisan


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The GOP will absolutely not ever support going against Trump


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
make people disrespect the game instead of the players


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He is a god to too many voters


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when the other side tries to play by the rules


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
say that the rules are wrong.


[04-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Focuses too much on his base tho


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elections are won by taking the independents.


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's too high a percentage of GOP voters that will never ever question Trump because they don't see him as a politician at all


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like if Bernie did nothing but go to San Francisco


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His base is in a lot of states that matters


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually McConnell will realize that he's going to lose reelection.


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[04-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
California is a lost cause


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The judge that's going to get confirmed


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Florida btw makes Trump lose guaranteed.


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does not believe in artificial insemination


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What do you mean by "believe"


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Disagrees with, or doesn't believe it's a real thing?


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or anything related to IVF or surrogacy


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Disagrees with


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because this is conservatives


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Clinton should not hav been impeached, Its


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
he should've been censured.


[04-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta be sure it doesn't mean literally does not believe


[04-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“In addition, the practice of surrogacy has grave effects on society, such as diminished respect for motherhood and the unique mother-child bond; exploitation of women; commodification of gestation and of children themselves; and weakening of appropriate social mores against eugenic abortion.”


[04-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
By forcing things to impeachment, the GOP went full partisan mode and lost, but paved the way to invalidate future Dem impeachments.


[04-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah this basically means no impeachment ever


[04-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know I was thinking the other day


[04-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like about same sex relationships in a show like FiM, and children


[04-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Perjury in any situation is flatly unacceptable for the president


[04-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
my mom uses insane whataboutism to say that people worshipped obama and said he was "anointed by god" in the same way that republicans are saying that trump was anointed by god


[04-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Completely unfit to hold office


[04-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would AJ hav Big Mac impregnate Dash?


[04-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine that if the writers tried it they'd be very much told off by the censors.


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like even if it's implied it was a spell to do basically do IVF, rather than the whole mess with it being technically cheating on Sugar Belle


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect Soccer Moms would explode.


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how GOP question time is always 90% GOP rant time


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That shit should be banned


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ask a question or eat a bullet


[04-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that view is too narrow


[04-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the entire reason why the system is broken, that view.


[04-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
For punishments to be effective, they need to be proportional


[04-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worst punishments must be used as sparingly as possible


[04-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you need to use lesser ones more regularly


[04-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
By making everything impeachment or nothing, it's led to where we are now.


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Censuring is a slap on the wrist.


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can play it off.


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress should've been censuring presidents all the damn time


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It hasn't


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it's impeachment or nothing


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Slaps on the wrist matter to voters.


[04-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring Clinton would've probably worked.


[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Censuring is for shit like what Johnson did tho


[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380252242080432128/651851369279389716/db4c5ba.jpg?width=352&height=463

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[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And?


[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
By demanding perfect justice, you make the perfect the enemy of the good.


[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never make the perfect the enemy of the good.


[04-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because then the bad will happen.


[04-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I get it, but if you commit perjury as a regular person you go to prison.


[04-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Irrelevant.


[04-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making the presidency obey the law takes a very different approach than what is currently set up.


[04-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need the people under him to be protected from firing when they refuse an illegal order.


[04-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need his chances of being caught in a way providing any level of punishment to be high, to deter.


[04-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
(the LEVEL of punishment is largely irrelevant for deterrance)


[04-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I figure that if like, Congress was privy to virtually every order given


[04-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and could instantly blokk firings


[04-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and censured presidents like once every 8 years


[04-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you'd get presidents mostly boxed in to following the law.


[04-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you'd need impeachments every 40 years too.


[04-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actual, successful ones.


[04-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saved up for things like Iran-Contra, not *just* perjury.


[04-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WHAT IS THE QUESTION YOU GOHMER FUCK


[04-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you know, limit the executive through an amendment


[04-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God I hate these people


[04-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need a really comprehensive amendment.


[04-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_49/3132936/191204-collins-stress-ball_7c7cef1608a9cbf7817b2bae4cea22e5.fit-560w.jpg

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https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_49/3132936/191204-collins-stress-ball_7c7cef1608a9cbf7817b2bae4cea22e5.fit-560w.jpg


[04-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a good sign.


[04-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doug Collins squeezing a stress ball


[04-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[04-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WHERE IS THE QUESTION YOU RAPE ENABLING PARROT


[04-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wonder how much they paid Turley


[04-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Promise of tenure can buy a lot


[04-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy in Clinton's impeachment argued that "the House should not falter in maintaining a bright line for presidential conduct.”


[04-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"won an electoral college landslide"


[04-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wew lad


[04-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turley's current stance is largely "oh hey Dems dislike Trump, that invalidates the House doing anything"


[04-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Actually admitting you lost the popular vote while fucking up the words so it sounds like a good thing


[04-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh this response is great


[04-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
WWII vet relative, vets gave lives for the country


[04-Dec-19 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mental-state-impeachment-psychiatrist-petition-congress-a9232386.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-mental-state-impeachment-psychiatrist-petition-congress-a9232386.html
Trump's mental state is deteriorating 'dangerously' due to impeach...
Exclusive: Statement to be accompanied by petition with at least 350 signatures from mental health professionals endorsing conclusions
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/12/04/12/trump-mad.jpg


[04-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
WAAAA I'M BRITTLE NO IMPEACH ME


[04-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I DON WANT


[04-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminds me of those notes he wrote


[04-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
"I want no quid pro quo"


[04-Dec-19 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
So does that mean he'll keep his presidency at least until 2020 election?


[04-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to say right now, I think there's like a 60% chance that he gets removed by then.


[04-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then Pence takes over, makes Schiff or someone crazier VP


[04-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mmmmm, hardball on Turley


[04-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
60%, really


[04-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize what 60% means


[04-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
it means there is a 2 in 5 chance that after the smoking guns pile up


[04-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't vote to remove


[04-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and lose reelection hard.


[04-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dooming their whole party.


[04-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the smoking guns aren't piled up yet.


[04-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
'While the president can name his son Barron, he can't make him a baron'


[04-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ONLY TRUMP IS ALLOWED TO MAKE JOKES REEE


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I ever had a platform in front of the GOP I would like


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
press them to see how far they would go by taking the most extreme stances on the powers of the president


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them that the next Obama is allowed to override SCOTUS on abortions


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"If the president doesn't get what he wants in the courts, he has every right to have judges/justices removed and tried for treason."


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them that the next Obama is going to shut down the RNC


[04-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
as being corrupt


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them that the next Obama will go to war with Russia


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
even after congress makes it illegal


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The president can suspend the constitution in times of extreme national emergency, and he is the only one that decides that."


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that anyone who votes against him will be tried for treason.


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them the president is allowed to take funds for border control


[04-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
and use them as reparations


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
for descendants of slaves.


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that he has the power to grant citizenship to anyone who steps foot on US soil.


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just in general nothing in the constitution applies to the president or his office


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them the president is going to take border control funds


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and use them to pay for these new citizens to go to college.


[04-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to fund abortion services.


[04-Dec-19 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
> Republicans don't vote to remove
> and lose reelection hard.
> Dooming their whole party.
Huh. I had thought for some reason Republicans could basically do anything and not lose because young folks never vote.


[04-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not young folks that are threatening them


[04-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's soccer moms


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The suburbs went blue in 2018.


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
That's unexpected. Or maybe that's just my experience with parents being socially conservative.


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independent voters voted Dem


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
En masse.


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also oh ffs Turley


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turley is arguing


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
that circumstantial evidence isn't enuff


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
I just assumed if I get a kid I'll become socially conservative "magically" as well.


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
because not enuff witnesses hav come out


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
Which is selfishly a reason why I want a kid lol; I'm super curious.


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
because they havn't responded to subpeonas


[04-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what Turley is saying is


[04-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Trump can keep up the obstruction


[04-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
that Trump shouldn't be impeached.


[04-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turley has for sure been paid off MASSIVELY


[04-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is probably gonna get a few yachts for this.


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shortlisted for RBG replacement


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He can party with the pedophile Dershowitz


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's literally arguing that successful obstruction of justice means you can't impeach.


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't call people pedophiles lightly


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dershowitz was buddies with Epstein


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And he has argued for decades against statutory rape and age of consent laws


[04-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What other conclusion can I draw


[04-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473059-white-house-calls-democratic-witnesss-mentioning-of-presidents-son

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White House calls Democratic witness's mentioning of president's y...
The White House criticized Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan for mentioning President Trump's son, Barron, during a Wednesday impeachment hearing, calling the remark "classless."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/karlanpamela_120419gn.jpg


[04-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not so sure that Barron should be "off limits"


[04-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't even a joke about him really.


[04-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no someone made a pun


[04-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
how dare


[04-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they want you distracted.


[04-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire point of what the GOP is doing right now.


[04-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Latch onto everything and just drag hard.


[04-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"So Hunter Biden is off limits, but 13 year old Barron Trump is not? This gets more unreal by the minute!"


[04-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"So someone who has a lifetime of drug abuse is off limits but making a pun about a name isn't?!"


[04-Dec-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my god, this deserves the utmost *pun*ishment


[04-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing but nonsense to distract.


[04-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing but.


[04-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barron deserves to be made fun of simply for his taste in anime tbh


[04-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's TOTALLY comparable to make a pun vs. force announcement of an investigation of


[04-Dec-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did they really compare hunter to barron?


[04-Dec-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not currently watching this thing though maybe i should be


[04-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its is using Republican responses from comments sections etc.


[04-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[04-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the actual thing is mostly a bunch of GOP reps yelling and milking Turley for saying that without subpeonas of like, Trump himself, it's not impeachable


[04-Dec-19 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch they invited trump to speak of his own volition


[04-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
while Dems just use their three witnesses to repeat over and over that yes, coercing a foreign power to investigate your political opponent is probably impeachable


[04-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god, It's Chad Bretewsky Jr the 3rd


[04-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So like


[04-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine this scenario


[04-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A president sends the Secret Service or some other armed group into Congress to arrest members that are hostile to him for being hostile to him


[04-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Could the president do that to the GOP?


[04-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like they just straight up Charles I it


[04-Dec-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good it;s dude bro


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah now it's the classic thing where the GOP tries to say that anyone who even talked to liberals is tainted.


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They do this, accuse the people investigating of being liberals, and also discount any Republicans


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
no criticism is allowed, period


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wow


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
in real time


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh poor barron had a pun made about him


[04-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
the guy is going after her pun


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how horrid


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now it's HEARSAY HEARSAY


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that pun sets thme off, they;d hate the fuck out of me


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
this guy is like, just machine-gunning out bullshit.


[04-Dec-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
red string, red string, red string, red string


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
"...cause maybe it's a different president we should be impeaching"


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
yeesh


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
this guy literally wants to go after Obama


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m surprised they havent started bringing out cork boards covered in red string and news paper clipings


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
right now.


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes we should have or at least censured


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Presidents need to be scared.


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he wants to do it TODAY, Its


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[04-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Complete deflection.


[04-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one has still said anything Trump did was proper


[04-Dec-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we should be impeaching a president who isnt president anymore!"


[04-Dec-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good news sir, you got obama out of the white hosue, congrats! you win!


[04-Dec-19 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good he;s quoting inaccurate history at us now


[04-Dec-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you have a question sir?


[04-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would NEVER stand at a real trial


[04-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never.


[04-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a real trial, you do not make argument in the middle of questioning expert witnesses.


[04-Dec-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is painful to listen to


[04-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/473066-gaetz-clashes-with-stanford-professor-it-makes-you-look-mean

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Gaetz clashes with Stanford professor: 'It makes you look mean'
Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gaetzmatt_120419gn.jpg


[04-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
bawwww


[04-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
who cares if people are mean


[04-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"who did you vote for?"


[04-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm like 98% sure that's illegal to ask


[04-Dec-19 10:45 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/03/no-great-escape-tory-scales-fence-and-bins-to-exit-climate-hustings-lewes

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No great escape: Tory scales bins and fence to exit climate hustings
Councillor’s 45-minute ordeal might have gone unnoticed had it not been for Lewes schoolgirl
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[04-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[04-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turley is talking about ATTEMPTING to abuse office


[04-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
he's just plain using talking points


[04-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not ATTEMPTED bribery, solicitation of a bribe IS the ATTEMPT


[04-Dec-19 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:squintyjack:


[04-Dec-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[04-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dear lord


[04-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
now the GOP argument is


[04-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That impeachment isn't valid if the opposition disapproves


[04-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their argument is that it's partisan because they think it's partisan, and that makes it wrong.


[04-Dec-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this argument is stupid as shit


[04-Dec-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The republicans didnt change their minds therefor fuck you"


[04-Dec-19 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that argument kind of goes out the window when one party is in on all the crimes brought up in the impeachment trial


[04-Dec-19 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon iirc it only becomes illegal to ask when the person declines answering


[04-Dec-19 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also becoems illegal when the intent is to use the answer to smear the witness


[04-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love the GOP running meme of "Americans are too stupid or disinterested to know what's going on here"


[04-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WHERE'S THE QUESTION YOU FUCKING SLACKJAWED FUCKWIT


[04-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is why you idiots always cede time to Jordan


[04-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because you fucking suck


[04-Dec-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ they arent even asking questions any more


[04-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So much /he/ makes you look good


[04-Dec-19 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt even a hearign anymore, it;s more a one sided debate club of denial


[04-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
balkanize america, the absurd biptartisan politics on such a grand scale are absurd


[04-Dec-19 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is frustrating to listen to


[04-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's the argument he didn't do anything wrong


[04-Dec-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/46cda2574cbad2a31d52c33d07d7c77d

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668,000 will lose food stamp benefits under new work rules
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hundreds of thousands of Americans who rely on the federal food stamp program will lose their benefits under a new Trump administration rule that will tighten work requirements...
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[04-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God, you can tell immediately in the first sentence how terrible a public speaker these guys are


[04-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reading notes directky, not looking up, not emphasizing, not ad-libing at all, breaking voice, no energy


[04-Dec-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love how they keep brining up "facts" but never actually present them


[04-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
THIS IS WHY YOU MILKBONES CEDE TO JORDAN


[04-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're going to monologue, cede your time to someone that can, not someone that sounds like a sophomore breaking down presening his coursework


[04-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There we go, pissed your pants and ceded to Jordan like a good little boy


[04-Dec-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://derpibooru.org/2120086?q=facedesk

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https://derpicdn.net/img/2019/8/17/2120086/medium.gif


[04-Dec-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bloombergs-views-on-marijuana-out-of-step-with-democratic-field-11575472265

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Bloomberg’s Views on Marijuana Out of Step With Democratic Field
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s presidential campaign is in the midst of a week focused on criminal justice and gun safety that could also spotlight an area in which his views are more conservative than the rest of the Democratic field: marijuana policy.
https://images.wsj.net/im-132912/social


[04-Dec-19 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
why the fuck isn't this guy a republican


[04-Dec-19 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh wait the GOP likely won't hold primaries next year because of Pharaoh Trump


[04-Dec-19 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
dumb me


[04-Dec-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gop states cancelled primaries for trump, and bloomburg stepped in because biden was losing footing for his wall street overlords


[04-Dec-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomburg basically threw his hat into the ring as the biden back up plan


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
this shit of HOW DARE YOU DO IT IN SECRET


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're doing it not in secret now you fukk


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you object to not doing it in secret


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
like fukk


[04-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and now he's objecting to having professors testify about how the law works


[04-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
WHO DO YOU WANT TO SAY HOW THE LAW WORKS?


[04-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump, apparently.


[04-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want a literal king.


[04-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or himself, so he can say Trump did nothing wrong.


[04-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now he's calling evidence 'opinion' lol,


[04-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking this is the most kangaroo I've ever seen congress get.


[05-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now Turley's got his shiteating grin


[05-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
as he goes on about how Trump didn't obstruct justice.


[05-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executive Council sounding pretty good now.


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it won't fix the issue


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the issue is congress.


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't able to actually chekk the power of the executive, at all.


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment has never worked.


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God I don't care if people make fun of Barron like holy shit


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it looks now like it never will.


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Kids are off limits" is dumb self censorship shit


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If congress can never impeach


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make fun of the president's family all you want


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
then what the fukk can the president do?


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Trump could literally shoot people dead


[05-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Republicans would be TRYING to prevent investigations into it.


[05-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might fail eventually


[05-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
but by the time they do, it'd be 6 months wasted.


[05-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah no impeachment ever will happen


[05-Dec-19 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is what will future presidents do?


[05-Dec-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Straight up openly do qpq on live TV.


[05-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's impossible to impeach provided you aren't massively outnumbered partywise, why not just hav the military arrest your political opponents?


[05-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously this will actually do to impeachment what was actually feared: using it the second the president's party only controls the WH


[05-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I could easily see it happening. "Oh if impeachment means nothing we might as fucking well"


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally lokk up the opposition


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just chant it


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but literally lokk them up on false ("Trumped up" ;p) charges.


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is stopping Trump right now from putting Biden, Warren, and Bernie in jail?


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could announce an investigation into each, fabricate evidence, imprison them, etc.


[05-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would just scream that he was right to do so.


[05-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[05-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He could have armed guards


[05-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have them storm the House


[05-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and arrest Pelosi and Schiff


[05-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would do anything.


[05-Dec-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was painful


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
if he planned to do such


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and word of it leaked


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it didn't happen


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would say the leakers should be hung.


[05-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Trump has every right to do it, it's just the DEEP STATE stopping him.


[05-Dec-19 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just plain monarchists.


[05-Dec-19 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-warns-communities-which-protest-against-cops-could-lose-police-protection
local attorney general threatens ethnic minorities with a flippin good time

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The U.S. attorney general didn’t specifiy which “communities” he meant, but civil-rights activists think it’s clear what he meant.
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[05-Dec-19 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay then, you remove police protection, minorities use their right to bear AR-15s at all times to protect themselves


[05-Dec-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it's tyranny if they can't bring them to work, school, social events, Republican primaries...


[05-Dec-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure you'll be fine with that!


[05-Dec-19 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
is that directed at me


[05-Dec-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Barr.


[05-Dec-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Republican primary events bar weapons.


[05-Dec-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as the party advocates for how allowing weapons increases safety


[05-Dec-19 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They bar them at their own events.


[05-Dec-19 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh


[05-Dec-19 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sorry


[05-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pitlyk got confirmed.


[05-Dec-19 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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faceclaw (5) pudding 

[05-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WOW BYTE


[05-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HOMOPHOBIC MUCH?!


[05-Dec-19 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610

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[05-Dec-19 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
jimmy boy


[05-Dec-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
who is jimm, and why are they not in here :reppy:


[05-Dec-19 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's with joe


[05-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably some coder server


[05-Dec-19 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
JOE MAMA :derpchrys:

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dab 

[05-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And everyone knows coders come in only two flavors: trans furry anarchist, and libertarian C++ evangelist traditionalist


[05-Dec-19 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
.q add @Teaspoon And everyone knows coders come in only two flavors: trans furry anarchist, and libertarian C++ evangelist traditionalist


[05-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[05-Dec-19 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
>:V


[05-Dec-19 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
.add_quote @Teaspoon And everyone knows coders come in only two flavors: trans furry anarchist, and libertarian C++ evangelist traditionalist


[05-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@ononim, quote added (@Teaspoon: And everyone knows coders come in only two flavors: trans furry anarchist, and libertarian C++ evangelist traditionalist).


[05-Dec-19 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[05-Dec-19 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The ultimate gamer


[05-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
> And everyone knows coders come in only two flavors: trans furry anarchist, and libertarian C++ evangelist traditionalist


[05-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
you fucking hit the nail on the head tbh


[05-Dec-19 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
byte[] more like OwO[anarchy]


[05-Dec-19 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate being a miser


[05-Dec-19 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I will furtively crawl through the grocery store checking every kg/euro/calorie/fiber/protein/fat ratio


[05-Dec-19 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then I will sit at home and grimace at the world and think "fucking hell I want a twinkie and pringles"


[05-Dec-19 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone at work fucking goes out for food at 8-12 euro a meal and I bring over a bag of peanuts or (home popped) popcorn


[05-Dec-19 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have to specify home popped because they actually sell bags of popped corn here for like 1.5 euro when the kernel-cost contained within is no more than 0.05 euro


[05-Dec-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I live like that


[05-Dec-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Teaspoon take solace in the fact that you're not fat


[05-Dec-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
because if you eat like they do, you soon will be


[05-Dec-19 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait to be hit by a bus and everyone at my funeral remark "he lived like a hobo and didn't live long enough to reap his savings"


[05-Dec-19 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/473120-gop-lawmaker-introduces-bill-to-make-it-mandatory-for-students-to-say#

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GOP lawmaker introduces bill to make it mandatory for students to ...
Arizona State Rep. John Filmore (R) has introduced a bill that would make it mandatory for students in the state to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/emptyclassroom.jpg


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
already struck down by SCOTUS


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is how you breed anti-statists


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
what more do they want?


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they're just asking for perpetual legal conflict


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Catholic school is where most anti-theists come from


[05-Dec-19 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
if the bill passes there'll be an injunction granted against it immediately


[05-Dec-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and in all likelihood SCOTUS will just decline to hear it, if it even makes it that far


[05-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, there's a bill like this proposed in 10 states every legislature


[05-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just PR for the fuckhead of the day


[05-Dec-19 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette

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West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment protects students from being forced to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of A...


[05-Dec-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

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The Bellamy salute is a palm-out salute described by Francis Bellamy, the author of the American Pledge of Allegiance, as the gesture which was to accompany the pledge. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salut...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg


[05-Dec-19 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
tfw the original pledge of allegiance salute for the flag was the nazi salute


[05-Dec-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article238030539.html


[05-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Bellamy_salutes_detail_in_1917%2C_from-_Saluting_the_Flag_NGM-v31-p361_%28cropped%29.jpg

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[05-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, did zimmerman run into a spot of money trouble and is now trying to cash in on decade-old drama?


[05-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Legally, he probably does have a case of "the courts absolved me, but these people keep saying I'm a murderer"


[05-Dec-19 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't change the fact that he's a murderer


[05-Dec-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
that fact that you killed someone in supposed self-defense does not mean that you didn't kill them


[05-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It kinda does legally.


[05-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, most people do not at all get the law on the matter.


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm using the vernacular


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
not the legal


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The foundation of it is that, legally, you're allowed to do anything necessary within reason compared to alternatives to prevent greater harm.


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
What he did was almost certainly unnecessary.


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The courts erred.


[05-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because BLAKK


[05-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's lukk of the draw whether you get a court that goes "you're a racist" or "wow that fukker had it coming"


[05-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you kill a blakk kid for "acting suspicious" within 100m of you.


[05-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's real and what's a legally real are very different things far too often


[05-Dec-19 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
castle doctrine is in the same legal area


[05-Dec-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
as in, it's bullshit


[05-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Treascair#7785
Yeah, there's more than a few folks raising an eyebrow, considering he *sold the gun he used to shoot Trayvon Martin* for a cool quarter of a mil.


[05-Dec-19 07:17 AM] Treascair#7785
Also, hey Nebbie, question.  Why do you spell it 'blakk' and 'fukker'? your C key obviously works...


[05-Dec-19 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
C is a redundant letter


[05-Dec-19 09:12 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm a teacher's kid that loves to write and grew up with a massive vocabulary.  Seeing typos makes my eye twitch a little.  *Deliberate* typos aggravate me, especially when someone should know better.  I'm more confused than anything as to why, when there's no need to write in such a way.


[05-Dec-19 09:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
seeing things like "blakk." here really annoys the heck out of me


[05-Dec-19 09:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I say this as a writer


[05-Dec-19 11:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just got used to it to the [point where i barely notice anymore


[05-Dec-19 11:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also as one of the kids who did not stand for the flag, fuck that guy and the flag pole he rode in on


[05-Dec-19 11:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit is too early in the day to be doing cult activities like ritual chanting and worshipping an idol on a pedestal/pole


[05-Dec-19 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/042c17452f8d42938698e7b07a639613

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Huawei asks court to throw out US telecom funds ban
SHENZHEN, China (AP) — Chinese tech giant Huawei is asking a U.S. federal court to throw out a rule that bars rural phone carriers from using government money to purchase its equipment on security...
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[05-Dec-19 02:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/VC4sAaV1eBs

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Three Arrows
https://youtu.be/VC4sAaV1eBs
Fox News: How To Whitewash an Atrocity
This one's as bad as it gets =Support me via= ► Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/ThreeArrows? ► TipJar: https://ko-fi.com/threearrows ► Merch: https://w...
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[05-Dec-19 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Employer: "We believe in teamwork!" Workers: _Unionize_
Employer: "No, not like that!" https://imgur.com/uDIhfRk.jpg

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"Bernie's idea of worker-driven democracy will never succeed!"
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[05-Dec-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/e62snl/does_my_employer_have_the_right_to_tell_me_that/

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Does my employer have the right to tell me that I'm not allowed to...
I'm a social worker, and work primarily with homeless teens. It's something I'm passionate about because I fled my mom's sexually abusive...
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[05-Dec-19 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Something something society clown emoji


[05-Dec-19 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/12/fcc-tries-to-bury-finding-that-verizon-and-t-mobile-exaggerated-4g-coverage/

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FCC tries to bury finding that Verizon and T-Mobile exaggerated 4G...
FCC buries investigation's finding in 5G press release, won't punish carriers.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/getty-ajit-pai-760x380.jpg


[05-Dec-19 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm really surprised they actually asked for help online; Maybe it's just me, but I keep encountering people who try to do it themselves for whatever reason, and end up messing themselves over.


[05-Dec-19 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
> Verizon, T-Mobile, and US Cellular exaggerated their 4G coverage in official filings to the Federal Communications Commission, an FCC investigation found. But FCC officials confirmed that Chairman Ajit Pai does not plan to punish the three carriers in any way. Instead, the FCC intends to issue an enforcement advisory to the broader industry, reminding carriers "of the penalties associated with filings that violate federal law."


[05-Dec-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
"we won't actually punish anyone, we'll REMIND THEM that we can punish them instead!"


[05-Dec-19 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
christ


[05-Dec-19 05:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Typical toothless regulator.


[05-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473139-trump-claims-he-asked-ukraine-to-do-america-a-favor-not-me#

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Trump claims he asked Ukraine to do US a 'favor,' not him
President Trump late Wednesday claimed that he was urging Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to help the United States when he asked if the foreign leader could "do us a favor" on a July 25 phone call.
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[05-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[05-Dec-19 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-wont-say-why-ukraine-cant-confirm-location-impeachment-donald-trump-viktor-shokin-1475676

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Rudy Giuliani won't say why he's in Ukraine and refuses to confirm...
President Donald Trump's attorney is accused of involvement in alleged efforts to extort the Ukrainian government into opening an investigation into Joe Biden.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1550974/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-impeachment-ukraine-confirm.jpg


[05-Dec-19 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
colludiani extorts ukraine 2: electric boogaloo


[05-Dec-19 08:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/05/politics/trump-impeachment-message/index.html

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Democrats have urgent new impeachment argument
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Democrats are injecting an urgent new argument into their already fast-moving impeachment drive: President Donald Trump poses such a flagrant threat to American governance and democracy that there is no time to waste.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191202104816-02-trump-departs-wh-1202-super-tease.jpg


[05-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/04/tech/pablo-escobar-fold-phone-trnd/index.html

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Pablo Escobar's brother released a foldable smartphone that he cla...
For years, Pablo Escobar's brother worked as an accountant in the brutal Medellín Cartel as it reinvented the global cocaine trade.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191204104257-01-pablo-escobar-phone-super-tease.jpeg


[05-Dec-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626880386663972886/652220401924964382/523e9f5.jpg

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[05-Dec-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, the "former" verizon lawyer wants to bury evidence verizon did anything wrong


[05-Dec-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[05-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/06dec345b86b1098b2eceb6de30471a3

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Trump asks Supreme Court to void financial records subpoena
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Thursday to void a subpoena from the House of Representatives that seeks the president's financial records from his accounting...
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[05-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch, they already said no


[05-Dec-19 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/LI87PRgIKks

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cassetteboy
https://youtu.be/LI87PRgIKks
Cassetteboy vs Boris Johnson
Please vote
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[05-Dec-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://io9.gizmodo.com/toys-r-us-is-open-for-business-again-but-theres-a-biza-1840202297

> There’s also the little detail in an NBC report that b8ta, the company who partnered with Tru Kids to create the new Toys “R” Us store, has installed dozens of sensors in the ceiling of the store to “monitor traffic patterns and shopper cadence” to see where kids and parents are going and what brands they’re more attracted to.
> Update 12/5/2019, 10:30 a.m.: After making our correction we asked b8ta to further clarify how the data is being collected, how long it’s stored for, and whether shoppers are notified the technology is in use in the stores. They declined to comment.

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Toys 'R' Us Is Open for Business Again, But There's a Bizarre Catc...
Toys “R” Us has re-opened its doors, launching the first of two new stores planned for the holiday season after closing 800 of them last year. You might think, great, it’s time to become a Toys “R” Us kid again, but I’d keep thinking like a grownup for a bit longe...
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[05-Dec-19 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Waiting for peak data to come and bomb the whole bubble.


[05-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/guns-second-amendment-supreme-court.html

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By Linda Greenhouse
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/guns-second-amendment-supreme-court.html
Opinion | Gunfight at the Supreme Court
A push to expand the Second Amendment produces some judicial contortions.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/05/opinion/05greenhouse1/05greenhouse1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, conservatives are using every possible trikk to ram the case thru


[05-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
instead of actually doing the allegedly-conservative thing of letting the status quo settle unless there is actually a problem.


[05-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The card says Moopsy.

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[06-Dec-19 12:04 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/florida-couple-buys-baby-bouncer-at-goodwill-finds-semi-automatic-rifle-inside

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Florida couple buys baby bouncer at Goodwill, finds semi-automatic...
The baby bouncer box contained a Mossberg 715T semi-automatic rife and no bouncer, according to a report.
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[06-Dec-19 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[06-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219985839751561226/652281673089548318/image0.jpg

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[06-Dec-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sure does, sign me up


[06-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Macarou#9574
Sounds fun


[06-Dec-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/05/785103454/rep-doug-collins-says-white-house-should-participate-in-impeachment-inquiry

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Top Judiciary Republican Says White House Should Participate In In...
The top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee tells NPR the Trump administration should take part in the process but says Democrats have made cooperation all but impossible.
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[06-Dec-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we're on "if I did...you deserved it"?


[06-Dec-19 01:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I wish this data actually worked for me. It either recommends stuff I have no interest in or stuff I have already watched/bought/own.  These data AI be like "i see you bought a house and think you like to buy houses now. would you like to buy another house?" I only need one house dammit.

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[06-Dec-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally says the call showed Trump did nothing wrong.


[06-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Arvid#8335
I don't think Trump is gonna get impeached tbh, Republicans won't let it happen


[06-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans cannot stop the House from impeaching.


[06-Dec-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans have chosen a hill to die on for the sake of power and money


[06-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can only stop the Senate from removing.


[06-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being impeached but not removed is a bad look btw.


[06-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if Democrats get closer witnesses to come and spill the beans.


[06-Dec-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a hill that abruptly ends at a cliff


[06-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad looks result in election losses.


[06-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Trump wanted the announcement of an investigation.


[06-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't care about the actual investigation.


[06-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(note: This key fact completely neuters the defense that it was serving the interests of the country, it's in the interests of the country that corruption be found by investigations, but not that someone look bad because of an investigation being announced, so wanting the latter and NOT the former signals you are acting for personal reasons)


[06-Dec-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The republican defense also seems to be that the constituion is a crime against the president and the section about impeachment is a personal attack on the monarchy of america


[06-Dec-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not in those exact words but that's basically the arguement without the red string conspiracy theories


[06-Dec-19 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just plain monarchists.


[06-Dec-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That counts as a win of the support of the people!


[06-Dec-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You lost the popular vote? Yes, but you won the special council indirectly based on it!


[06-Dec-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You tried to defame your rival to prevent losing the future election? He deserved it!


[06-Dec-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You were asked to actually provide information into why you did something? How dare anyone question your authority!


[06-Dec-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You made a pun about the president;s son? You will be PUNished with death!

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[06-Dec-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare you make a quip about titles and the president's son Loyd Farquid


[06-Dec-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not liek they weren;t hunting a hunter...


[06-Dec-19 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-xinjiang/u-s-uighur-bills-threat-to-surveillance-economy-puts-china-on-offensive-idUSKBN1Y92TV

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U.S. Uighur bill's threat to surveillance economy puts China on of...
China reacted angrily to President Donald Trump's approval of legislation s...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191205&t=2&i=1460681008&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB41WW


[06-Dec-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
China reacted angrily to President Donald Trump’s approval of legislation supporting Hong Kong protesters last month, but movement on another congressional bill, backing Uighur Muslims in China’s northwest, has cut even closer to the bone and could trigger reprisals and hurt efforts to resolve the U.S.-China trade war.U.S. congressional sources and China experts say Beijing appears especially sensitive to provisions in the Uighur Act passed by the House of Representatives this week banning exports to China of items that can be used for surveillance of individuals, including facial and voice-recognition technology.


[06-Dec-19 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trade war deal was never going to close, china was goign to keep it open to milk it for all it was worth


[06-Dec-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/30/trump-immigration-citizenship-green-cards-face-deportation

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'This is where my everything is': US citizen suddenly faces deport...
Apparent targeting of family whose relative was convicted of terror attack prompts accusations of ‘collective punishment’
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[06-Dec-19 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when Trump said to go after their families?


[06-Dec-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, it's by legal means.


[06-Dec-19 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stripping citizenship of the relatives of terrorists, despite them being completely innocent.


[06-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again can't wait until a Democratic president does similar stupid shit and the roles are reversed


[06-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because if Clinton won but did this exact same shit


[06-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think Democrats would call for removal


[06-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually yes


[06-Dec-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary would've faced incredible pressure if she was caught bowing to Russia by pressuring a country it's trying to take control over into hurting a Republican political opponent


[06-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
She probably would resign to take blame while the VP takes over and continues on with some corrupt shit.


[06-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if it really came down to it, I think Democrats would want to rush thru impeachment for the same reason


[06-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then try to hav the VP rush thru legislation afterwards.


[06-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Dem/Rep isn't just a flavor choice


[06-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The parties hav *different values*


[06-Dec-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Telling your Democratic base that the law doesn't matter, you should stay in power to stop the racists is uh...not going to work.


[06-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary resisting impeachment would've just destroyed the party outright.


[06-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if she had done something different, it might be different.


[06-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But for that SPECIFIC action, holy shit


[06-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize the scale of what Trump did


[06-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
he went to a country in need of our help to stop one of our biggest enemies from controlling it


[06-Dec-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and forced them to be his corrupt lakkey, nearly pulling away said help


[06-Dec-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
completely compromising their whole process, making it more likely Russia can infiltrate them in the future


[06-Dec-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ukraine is likely going to just be a Russian puppet now.


[06-Dec-19 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump **absolutely** should be impeached over this.


[06-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not impeaching over this means the president is a king, full stop.


[06-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just can't get more contrary to both the election process and our interests as a country.


[06-Dec-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-canada/canada-sees-tough-challenge-getting-trade-deal-ratified-by-u-s-idUSKBN1Y92TX?il=0

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Canada sees 'tough challenge' getting trade deal ratified by U.S.
Canadian Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland on Thursday said it would be a ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191206&t=2&i=1460692067&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB5005


[06-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck are we doing this


[06-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have NAFTA


[06-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck all this revision shit it works fine


[06-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a pointless waste of time because Trump wants his name on something.


[06-Dec-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wants a trade deal that lets him shoe horn tariffs on everything and puts his name on it


[06-Dec-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he mainly wants the nafta revisions as a fuck you leverage against mexico, but canada is probably a welcoem sacrifice to him


[06-Dec-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ecowatch.com/court-delivers-blow-to-nestle-bottled-water-says-it-is-not-an-essential-public-service-2641529746.html

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No Nestlé, Bottled Water Is Not an 'Essential Public Service,' Co...
Nestlé cannot claim that its Ice Mountain bottled water brand is an essential public service, according to Michigan's second highest court, which delivered a legal blow to the food and beverage giant in a unanimous decision, according to The Guardian.


[06-Dec-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/12/immigration-detainee-geo-forced-labor-lawsuit/

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Madison Pauly
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/12/immigration-detainee-geo-forced-labor-lawsuit/
A judge says thousands of ICE detainees may sue a prison company f...
Immigration detainees allege that GEO Group is violating a federal anti-slavery law.
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[06-Dec-19 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/04/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-lawsuit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Discord

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George Zimmerman sues Trayvon Martin's family for $100m
Man who was cleared of murdering unarmed black teenager launches lawsuit against family, their lawyer and prosecutors
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[06-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/05/politics/democrats-against-impeachment-jeff-van-drew/index.html

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House Democrat says he plans to vote against all articles of impea...
Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, one of two Democrats to vote against formalizing the impeachment inquiry, said he plans to vote against all the articles of impeachment "unless there's something that I haven't seen, haven't heard before."
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[06-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
> He warned Democrats to "be careful what you wish for" and he added that impeachment "is tearing the nation apart. ... And I want to bring people together."


[06-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[06-Dec-19 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
this is the exact reasoning that was used to not prosecute nixon for committing treason to break peace talks in vietnam and secure his victory in the election


[06-Dec-19 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
because it would "tear the nation apart"


[06-Dec-19 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
justice is always more important than unity


[06-Dec-19 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_justitia_ruat_caelum

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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
Fīat jūstitia ruat cælum is a Latin legal phrase, meaning "Let justice be done though the heavens fall." The maxim signifies the belief that justice must be realized regardless of consequences. According to the 19th-century abolitionist politician Charles Sumner, it does n...
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[06-Dec-19 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
let justice be done, though the heavens fall


[06-Dec-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/world/europe/france-strike-macron.html

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General Strike in France Challenges Macron’s Latest Ambition for...
The president wants to combine a complex of 42 different generous pension schemes into one state system. It scares fellow citizens. And his personal style grates on many.
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[06-Dec-19 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, france is on fire again


[06-Dec-19 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  Do those protest even do anything? It seems to be going on for a while now, and nothing changes.


[06-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
these aren't the yellow vest protests, that ended months ago


[06-Dec-19 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
k


[06-Dec-19 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/_homogay/status/1201984062115573760

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𝙛𝙪𝙘𝙠 𝙤𝙛𝙛. (@_homogay)
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this deserves to be on twitter
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[06-Dec-19 05:32 AM] illumnious#7938
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[06-Dec-19 05:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zdHfLeaZo

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Jimmy Kimmel Live
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PROOF: The World is Laughing at Donald Trump
World leaders laughed behind Donald Trump's back at the NATO Summit, it was a long day for the House Judiciary portion of the impeachment proceedings, Rep De...
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[06-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-cell-where-a-sick-16-year-old-boy-died-in-border-patrol-care

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Inside the Cell Where a Sick 16-Year-Old Boy Died in Border Patrol...
Video obtained by ProPublica shows the Border Patrol held a sick teen in a concrete cell without proper medical attention and did not discover his body until his cellmate alerted guards. The video doesn’t match the Border Patrol's account of his death.
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[06-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that under Trump, it's not uncommon for migrants to die in conditions seemingly competing with medieval torture


[06-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this is tolerated as being the correct approach, to deter people


[06-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
by killing their kids.


[06-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then officers cover it all up claiming that it was harsh desert conditions and that they for sure brought people to the hospital eventually so it's all fine!


[06-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this too is tolerated.


[06-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/05/785271217/woman-heading-to-testify-at-rape-trial-set-on-fire-in-india

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Woman Heading To Testify At Rape Trial Set On Fire In India
The woman says one of the men who attacked her on Thursday is the same man who raped her last year. It's another horrifying incident in a country grappling with high levels of sexual violence.
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[06-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
> As a 23-year-old woman in India was heading to testify against a man who allegedly raped her, a group of men that she says included her rapist attacked her and set her on fire. It's yet another horrifying incident in a country grappling with high levels of sexual violence against women.


[06-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
india is a shithole


[06-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
literally


[06-Dec-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/20/pentagon-confirms-35-million-in-aid-still-being-withheld-from-ukraine-despite-impeachment-inquiry/

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$35M in military aid still being withheld from Ukraine: Pentagon
The White House's unusual decision to freeze millions in aid to Ukraine in July is central to the impeachment probe
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[06-Dec-19 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
christ


[06-Dec-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that's why Giuliani was in Ukraine


[06-Dec-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't done with the attempt to extort Ukraine.


[06-Dec-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're gonna try to get Ukraine to announce an investigation for that remaining money, even as the impeachment is looming over it.


[06-Dec-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then once it's announced, they'll say that Ukraine got all its aid, like, a day before the announcement


[06-Dec-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that therefore it wasn't conditional.


[06-Dec-19 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP defense talking point will essentially be that it's not bribery if it worked.


[06-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then their collective argument will be 1) it's not a crime if you only attempted it and 2) it's not a crime if it succeeded.

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[06-Dec-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or IOW, crimes aren't crimes when the president does them, ever.


[06-Dec-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So remember, the constitution says impeachment is for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors"


[06-Dec-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their argument is this isn't bribery, only *attempted* bribery


[06-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's not a crime whether attempted or fully succeeded


[06-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's therefore not a high crime or misdemeanor


[06-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that the President by definition can't commit treason.


[06-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Therefore*, the President cannot be impeached, for any reason, at all, ever.


[06-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
>other misdemeanors


[06-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
do they just, like, ignore this part or something?


[06-Dec-19 11:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1202721772057112579?s=20

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ARTIST TAXI DRIVER (@chunkymark)
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Oh my god” cry the crowd 

those with learning difficulties should be paid less as they ‘Don’t understand money’ 

Tory candidate at marginal Hastings hustings 😱

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[06-Dec-19 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i hate the unity criers more than the conspiracy theorists


[06-Dec-19 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unity all but went out the window in 2016, the republicans threw up a wall and said they were never working with anyone ever again, and the voters entrenched themselves in party lines


[06-Dec-19 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unity is dead even if the impeachment doesn;t go through


[06-Dec-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this country is already torn the fuck appart


[06-Dec-19 01:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/NbYcJgD.jpg

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I DID NOTHING WRONG!
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[06-Dec-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/74e2750e6a13fce497328b2ef7fe8000

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Texas woman fights to keep name out of lawsuit alleging rape
HOUSTON (AP) — A Texas woman is fighting for anonymity in a lawsuit alleging she was sexually assaulted by a co-worker, but a federal judge who plans to dismiss the case has ordered that her name...
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[06-Dec-19 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1202687130188877825

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Rational Disconnect (@RationalDis)
https://twitter.com/RationalDis/status/1202687130188877825
Not going to lie, the arc of Milo burning everyone he has ever worked with because he is broke is pretty good https://t.co/bKcxENIaVK
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[06-Dec-19 05:14 PM] illumnious#7938
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Tucker Carlson is the best host on television. You won’t see this at most right wing events.  https://t.co/h3FGpjwzTZ
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[06-Dec-19 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/05/senate-republicans-impeachment-trial-076673

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Senate Republicans puncture House GOP dreams for impeachment trial
GOP leaders have no interest in turning the Senate into a circus with the hard-line demands of Trump's House allies.
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[06-Dec-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the GOP in the Senate doesn't think they hav the votes to outright sabotage impeachment


[06-Dec-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too many of them are worried it'll torpedo their reelection chances if they show they're willing to just plain play dirty.


[06-Dec-19 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Rknepper_/status/1202686219546742793

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Rosie Clarke (@Rknepper_)
https://twitter.com/Rknepper_/status/1202686219546742793
Conservative candidate Sally Ann Heart defending her view that Disabled people / those with learning disabilities should be paid less as they ‘Don’t understand money’! Actually unbelievable. Audience do not agree... #GeneralElection19 #tory #jc4pm https://t.co/zg5CVv...
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[06-Dec-19 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
disabled are a very difficult topic to approach objectively. They _are_ a burden on economy, or a less of a benefit, obviously. So then, at best of times you're balancing compassion and practicality and that's never easy.


[06-Dec-19 06:07 PM] Opponent#3498
on a personal level, usually you get mental disabilities in elderly folk, and the wonderful reality of having to live with someone for many years who absolutely cannot be left alone ever or they'll burn your or their house down really needs to be experienced at least second-hand to understand. And for younger people, I don't even know, it's fine until their parents are fine, but if something does wrong, then what?


[06-Dec-19 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
constant fear and misery, more than the ambient level.


[06-Dec-19 06:11 PM] jlun2#8758
> on a personal level, usually you get mental disabilities in elderly folk, and the wonderful reality of having to live with someone for many years who absolutely cannot be left alone ever or they'll burn your or their house down really needs to be experienced at least second-hand to understand
That's my grandpa, and I'm positive will be me in 50 years.


[06-Dec-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, if you treat people who are a burden on the economy by removing their support, things get worse.


[06-Dec-19 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
People are very, very expensive to create and raise to working age, and people *know* people.


[06-Dec-19 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you let everyone die, you create serious mental health issues for those who survive and waste resources like crazy.


[06-Dec-19 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most disabled people CAN be productive workers, as well


[06-Dec-19 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The argument isn't *about* paying full salary for a blind guy in a wheelchair who works in accounting


[06-Dec-19 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is about paying full salary to the autistic kid who is a fukking amazing accountant but the employer wants to pay him less cause they can get away with it.


[06-Dec-19 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ann Heart's argument is that people who struggle with finances shouldn't be paid.


[06-Dec-19 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her argument is that their ability to manage money determines their worth at being given it.


[06-Dec-19 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, which in turn is determined by how much money they have, which is a typical neolib circular logic.


[06-Dec-19 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, it's really scummy.


[06-Dec-19 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is we should take our most vulnerable people, who hav extra expenses, and pay them less cause they won't be able to fight for their rights anyways.


[06-Dec-19 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing is about cutting the bottom out from society.


[06-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take the people who earn pennies for every dollar the "middle class" earns, and rob their pennies to make a nice copper roof for the top.


[06-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Surely, that will keep the nation afloat.


[06-Dec-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
copper is clearly the ultimate material for bouyancy


[06-Dec-19 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
current world economies seem to run on a series of horrifying catch 22s where people are stuck in paradoxical situations they can't escape from because escaping thme requires they have the emans to escape it in the first place, but in order to have the means to escape from the situation they must have escaped form the stituation to begin with


[06-Dec-19 06:33 PM] jlun2#8758
jobs need experience but experience needs jobs


[06-Dec-19 06:33 PM] jlun2#8758
also apparently personal coding stuff doesnt count


[06-Dec-19 06:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Also Autism is considered a learning disability in the UK. Autism being a spectrum which could be rolling around on the floor screaming at the first thing that upsets them or they don't understand or socially inept and retreating into something like learning or arts. A disproportionate amount of autistic people go into the science,tech,art fields of work. I could easily see business abusing this. Especially tech and art sectors. Disney and facebook would abuse the hell out it i am sure. Also autistic people are not disabled in the physical sense so are able to do pretty much any job an able person would be able to do. Imagine something like amazon hiring just autistic people and giving shit pay while taking about how inclusive they are.


[06-Dec-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have aspergers and i am more into science, art, and reading. I cant do mechanics for shit though which doesnt make me a good fit fro trades...


[06-Dec-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is a problem because i live in an area where education is mostly trades based...


[06-Dec-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would fit better working in a library or such


[06-Dec-19 06:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
same. Math kills me.


[06-Dec-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can explain to you how an hvac syustem works but i can't mechanically fix it to save lives


[06-Dec-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can also tell you how to change out refrigerant, but actually doing the task is entirely different than explaining how it;s done


[06-Dec-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i;d probably be better off in a parts house or in an informational position in an hvac trade


[06-Dec-19 06:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  if you know more than your customers, you can do a poor job and they won't know 😉


[06-Dec-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but my boss will after several calls...


[06-Dec-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor jobs can also result in a shit ton of property damage and carbon monoxide poisoning


[06-Dec-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they won't know i did a shit job, but they'll be too dead to ever find out and i'll be in prison


[06-Dec-19 06:47 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought companies were super unethical tho


[06-Dec-19 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some companies are, but hvac is overseen by several governmental agencies


[06-Dec-19 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the EPA, OSHA, ect


[06-Dec-19 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an entire regulations board that comes out and inspects every single job you do


[06-Dec-19 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a $10,000 reward for anyone who reports EPA violations from hvac techs


[06-Dec-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ethics is one thing, but hvac is one of those trades where being ethical is more profitable thna being unethical


[06-Dec-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the unethical part coems with pricing of services


[06-Dec-19 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit is rampant and in order to make a profit off services you have to massively over charge for everything you do


[06-Dec-19 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
> could easily see business abusing this


[06-Dec-19 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
bruh that's what they already _doooooo_


[06-Dec-19 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
they literally pay autists half as much for doing 5-10x the work


[06-Dec-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bruh look at her argument


[06-Dec-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
she is literally saying


[06-Dec-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
learning disorder means less financial wisdom means PAY THEM LESS


[06-Dec-19 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Pwny, that is her GOAL


[06-Dec-19 06:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/belgian-mayor-d-haese-aalst-opts-to-retain-carnival-that-featured-big-nosed-jews-unesco-1.493790?fbclid=IwAR2LVYydaWUdAF8p9bVyO-cFeS6uTYwT9zXH8Ox_IzIfaXtaOMAqiGvvwPE


[06-Dec-19 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her goal is for businesses to exploit people with learning disabilities.


[06-Dec-19 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does she think people with learning disabilities can't count?


[06-Dec-19 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or that at the very least someone who is their guardian if it is that bad can't either?


[06-Dec-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she;s probably one of those people who equate every elarning disability to mental retardation or down syndrome


[06-Dec-19 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but basically her opinion is that mentally disabled people shoudl be treated as slave cattle


[06-Dec-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They are the inferior breed and as such should be treated as our inferiors"


[06-Dec-19 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, if you have someone who is mentally rearded or has Downs you'd assume their caretaker would notice too


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, she doesn't think they hav caretakers


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
if she knows they do


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
she thinks that they *shouldn't*


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again you fail to understand the conservative mentality.


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
*puts on conservative hat*


[06-Dec-19 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If someone cannot do it themselves, they shouldn't do it


[06-Dec-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If someone needs help, they should fail.


[06-Dec-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"god only helps those who cna help themselves"


[06-Dec-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
People with disabilities therefore should not be given caretakers.


[06-Dec-19 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
People with disabilities who cannot manage finances, with nobody to do it for them (for they cannot do it themselves, so obviously), should not be given money.


[06-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should be provided with the bare minimum to continue to be productive for their employer, provided with housing, healthcare, etc. by the employer.


[06-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Paying them a wage is simply wasting society's time.


[06-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their employer should manage all aspects of their life, as their caretaker, again only doing the minimum.


[06-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This way, businesses will be able to lower prices to consumers, everybody wins.


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
_removes conservative hat._


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should basically be private prison inmates with no allowance


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Slavery.


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
She wants slavery.


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally, no ifs, ands, or buts.


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
She just wants people with learning disabilities to be slaves.


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If all of the "it will lower prices for consumers" shit actually lowered prices every time everything would be like $1


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[06-Dec-19 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
everything actually *is* cheap in the US


[06-Dec-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ridiculously so.


[06-Dec-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that wages are stagnant


[06-Dec-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who were paid like, $10/hour in 1960 are paid $10/hour today.


[06-Dec-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
$10 in 1960 could buy your week's groceries.


[06-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
$10 today cannot always buy lunch.


[06-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
In 1956 the minimum wage was $1/hour


[06-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like $10/hour today.


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
People were generally paid well above minimum wage.


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage was a fallbakk for like, poor farmhands.


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't meant to be used.


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't even meant to reflect what would be normal to pay.


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was MINIMUM


[06-Dec-19 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nowadays, minimum wage often *is* your wage.


[06-Dec-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses are eeking out every last cent to giv to investors.


[06-Dec-19 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they are beholden to investors.


[06-Dec-19 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically we need to french revolution wall street


[06-Dec-19 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but in all seriousness, wages today are not enough to live on


[06-Dec-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's more, it's not uncommon for people who like, "made it" economically, especially outside the US


[06-Dec-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
to go look at US prices and go WOW LOW TAXES MUST BE GREAT


[06-Dec-19 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They see, like, the price of meat and just go bananas at how much they could afford


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, 40% of Americans could not afford a sudden $400 expense.


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like bitch, nobody in poverty in the US can afford to eat well.


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I see all these job reports that say "360k jobs added last month!"


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many are people's third job for minimum wage


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s pretty much the issue with that data


[06-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, some of those are *below* minimum wage


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's cases where employers can legally pay below minimum.


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of it is people taking on multiple jobs


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's also cases where employers don't follow the law.


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The agencies that are supposed to stop that are hamstrung.


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] jlun2#8758
Reading newspapers is like reading excerpts from an alternate reality at times @Itsthinking


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] jlun2#8758
or news posts whatever


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, journalists at their core are wealthy people


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
they went to college not knowing how to do algebra


[06-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
off daddy's dollar


[06-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
When they talk about economic matters


[06-Dec-19 07:19 PM] jlun2#8758
> off daddy's dollar
I know you meant that dismissively, but that sounds hot


[06-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
especially complex mathematic ones


[06-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are talking about stuff only from the perspective of the rich


[06-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
while not knowing how interest works


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason so many articles get basic facts wrong and get corrected like 2 hours after publishing.


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Journalists aren't writing for accuracy and are not people dedicated to accuracy in the end.


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] jlun2#8758
https://xkcd.com/947/

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xkcd: Investing
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/investing.png
But Einstein said it was the most powerful force in the universe, and I take all my investment advice from flippant remarks by theoretical physicists making small talk at parties.


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They may want to *uncover* things, but like


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the end of the day, they just want a headline.


[06-Dec-19 07:20 PM] jlun2#8758
that's what I think of when you wrote that


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] jlun2#8758
also I really want journalist to get replaced by bots


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that would be an example of something like that.


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
My point was they don't understand the math behind it.


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which means they aren't good at really understanding how money changes over time.


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
One thing that is the reverse of that btw


[06-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
is that if you get like, an obscene amount of money


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Interest is by percent


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the interest on that money grows directly proportional to it


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
but your expenses do not


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means if you get like a million dollars and you invest it into stokks


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can stop working.


[06-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The increase in your money annually can pay your expenses.


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's something only the people in really high class jobs can do, normally, tho.


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the challenge is actually obtaining a million dollars to dot hat with...


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also why US politicians are able to run years-long campaigns


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
to someone like Michael Bloomberg


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
being out of work for 10 years is no problem


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  easy. just ask daddy right? 😜


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is why in the US...with a long campaign season...


[06-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
90% of politicians are wealthy.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Working-class people as politicians is rare.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] jlun2#8758
maybe I live under a rock, but I don't see political ads much, even with adblock off.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't run for office and work a job at the same time.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] jlun2#8758
except signs on streets which I cant even read when driving


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You liv under a rokk.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are ALREADY TV ads for Democratic presidential contenders


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
There hav been for months


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
they cost tens of millions to run.


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] jlun2#8758
tv is a computer screen here


[06-Dec-19 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine just being able to spend $20 million


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
political ads tend to stick to news stations, publicbroadcasting, and basic cable


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
for something that likely won't work.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're targeting boomers, not you.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav money.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers do.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't vote.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers do.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if most of what you watch is cartoon network, you wont see a single political ad


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder how that would change as boomers die off


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] jlun2#8758
or are they imortal?


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, vote.


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are not immortal, but do realize


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
the largest increase in mortality


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
is ages 25-35


[06-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials.


[06-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are **literally** killing us.


[06-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
(indirectly)


[06-Dec-19 07:26 PM] jlun2#8758
I can confirm; my grandpa's mental problems makes me stressed like hell


[06-Dec-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stress leads to poor decisions, inability to be productive, difficulty with working on self-improvement, mental illness, and suicide.


[06-Dec-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also makes you age faster, affecting your physical health.


[06-Dec-19 07:27 PM] jlun2#8758
I made comments before that I swear boomers get dementia on purpose to fuck with my parent's wallets


[06-Dec-19 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers didn't get it on purpose


[06-Dec-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just massively encouraged society to continue with unhealthy food and behavior


[06-Dec-19 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
while gutting healthcare


[06-Dec-19 07:30 PM] jlun2#8758
Alternatively, you can interpret that as if I ever get kids, in 50 years I'll get dementia to mess with them. 😉


[06-Dec-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lto of our issues today are a result of economic wealth clouding judgment and long term thinking and now they;re too stubborn to admit that maybe thye should have thought of the long term... well the middle to lower class anyway, the rich are a different case...


[06-Dec-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Milo burning the alt-right is 10/10


[06-Dec-19 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hearing people now unironically say they wish the Obama death panels actually existed.


[06-Dec-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like seriously, say what you will about Milo, but I don't think he actually deserved getting tossed out like that


[06-Dec-19 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
people went stupid as usual about cancel culture


[06-Dec-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know much about the milo situation


[06-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Milo was an alt-right figurehead cause he was gay but not super duper liberal.


[06-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
He rode it to fame


[06-Dec-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[06-Dec-19 07:32 PM] jlun2#8758
what intex said


[06-Dec-19 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People forget log cabin Republicans existed I guess


[06-Dec-19 07:34 PM] Arvid#8335
Yeah a person being both gay and conservative isn't really new.


[06-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Arvid#8335
Milo got popular because he rode on the Gamergate drama that was going on a couple of years ago.


[06-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so Milo at one point was on a rant about how gays are treated


[06-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he implied that age of consent laws unfairly punish gay people because they ignore actual complexities of human relationships and not every single adult male on not-quite-adult male relationship is bad. Very implicitly, he seemed to be trying to get at that gays are disproportionately targeted.


[06-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
That set him on fire as far as his Breitbart allies were concerned.


[06-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was simultaneously taking a liberal stance, that gays are oppressed


[06-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a libertarian stance, that age of consent laws are overbearing


[06-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neither of which are acceptable to the highly pro-gov't-bursting-down-the-door-to-summarily-execute-gays alt-right


[06-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was beyond the pale, too much for his usefulness.


[06-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they completely tossed him out.


[06-Dec-19 07:38 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[06-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it seems now that his approach is to find them one by one and set fire to them in return.


[06-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Breitbart forgot Fascism 1010


[06-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People even hate Kirk and the other guy whatever his name is


[06-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For being Jewish


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
wait I thought they supported israel


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rule #1 of being a fascist is you must defend your fascist allies. The most powerful anti-fascists are ones you create by burning good allies.


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The alt-right doesn't support Israel because of who livs there


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
they support it because it kills arabs


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Palestineans and Saudi Arabia and Iran didn't exist


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
the alt-right would be making Trump go to war with Israel right now


[06-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
under allegations it has nuclear weapons


[06-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Arvid#8335
Mainstream convervatives support Israel, the alt-right either hates Israel, or only likes it because it kills Muslims.


[06-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Israel's population is relatively white


[06-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
and its leader is a corrupt asshole


[06-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
who is part of a long tradition there of believing that the arabs are at fault for "forcing" them to kill the arabs' children.


[06-Dec-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Alt right loves a government with on demand abortions and socialized medicine


[06-Dec-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
“When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”

― Golda Meir, A Land of Our Own: An Oral Autobiography


[06-Dec-19 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 4th PM of Israel, born in Kiev.


[06-Dec-19 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*Kyiv


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about how fukked up this worldview is.


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't use Russian shit.


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just think about it.


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying "we kill children" but BLAMING IT ON THE PARENTS


[06-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also putting the burden of peace on impoverished arabs.


[06-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine Blackjack from FO:E PH saying that she hates the Zebras because they make her kill their foals


[06-Dec-19 07:44 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[06-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that peace can only come when the Zebras love their foals more than they dislike being ruled by ponies.


[06-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking tbh I for one use the first myself too.


[06-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's incorrect


[06-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
As she puts together a pan-pony state


[06-Dec-19 07:45 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  the worse about that is that if someone actually wrote that in the fanfic, I can see people complaining not because of the former sentence, but because "zebra loving foals is pedo" or some crap


[06-Dec-19 07:45 PM] jlun2#8758
and completely miss the point of what you said


[06-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Heh.


[06-Dec-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
> Also, Milo burning the alt-right is 10/10


[06-Dec-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
wait do you have a link?


[06-Dec-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
this is juicy coming from a former grifter


[06-Dec-19 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
@Its it's only incorrect in the sense that our lovely government is trying to revise everything for no other reason than to leave their mark in history, and it's not 'up to date'. This is how it's been known since before the Soviets, and is the mainstream one.


[06-Dec-19 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/11/4/20947833/richard-spencer-white-nationalism-audio-milo-alt-right

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Audio tape reveals Richard Spencer is, as everyone knew, a racist
The recording shows once again that the racism and anti-Semitism of the "alt-right" or "dissident right" is just racism and anti-Semitism.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Eu30qYpviM-S-pY6SEA3id9TpOw=/0x0:3000x1571/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19346494/GettyImages_644207442.jpg


[06-Dec-19 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Milo recorded Richard Spencer ranting about how jews should be slaves


[06-Dec-19 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I for one am a huge opponent to shit like trying to change the transcriptions and street names to suit the political narrative, which itself changes here with every new president anyway and is populism and nothing else.


[06-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Words actually do matter.


[06-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removing confederate statues from public view is a big deal.


[06-Dec-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were erected solely to support narratives against blakks.


[06-Dec-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
(mostly during the early 20th century, *well after* the war was over)


[06-Dec-19 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robert E Lee opposed any sort of monuments to himself or the Confederacy...


[06-Dec-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Leave the statues up


[06-Dec-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But make statues twice as tall of Sherman


[06-Dec-19 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Glaring at them


[06-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, any statue of Lee is dishonoring his memory.


[06-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously.


[06-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy said to forget the Confederacy.


[06-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He believed remembering it would hurt the nation's healing.


[06-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
(he was right)


[06-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When it's 1915 Alabama and you're living in shit and thinking shit would be better if you still had slaves you don't believe him


[06-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Confederate states should not have been let back in as is


[06-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Redraw them so there can be no local pride at all, name after Union generals


[06-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, should have only let the last one in around like 1920


[06-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A generation or two raised on shame


[06-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the Allies just let the few Nazis still alive run West Germany in like 1960


[06-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Should've educated kids in the North


[06-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
then return them to the South


[06-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We did this with the South


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least they'd want to know why the North had better industry


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
@its the Allies integrates the whitewashed nazis into their systems at every level from spec ops to science to history...


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
"whitewashed"


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
"whitewashed"


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
dude


[06-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk are you trying to say?


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
'we killed all the nazis, those that remain are the good guys now. Don't think about that, look at the GREAT SOVIET BEAR'.


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, are you saying that the American education system went into the history books and made the Nazis *worse*?


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
that was the narrative.


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
no.


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
We actually did kill like almost all the fukking Nazis


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know about the mass trials?


[06-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
We executed THOUSANDS of them


[06-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
tbh I think it was excessive collective punishment


[06-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[06-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were enormous amounts of people put on trial over being nazis


[06-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not just the people on top


[06-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being in the SS was a good way to get hung after the war.


[06-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pretty hot take that any sizable amount of nazis escaped justice


[06-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to ignoring allied war crimes, sure


[06-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that's rather a different slice of things.


[06-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
well you let the german generals write the history for you. There's a ton of integrated personnel in alphabet agencies and scientific community. The... what's it called. 'fellow traveller'? Thing was a very, very popular thing, applied to a LOT of useful people.


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
We didn't let german generals write history


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
you killed some, sure. But the propaganda vastly overexaggerated it.


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
oh really?


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And german generals were not necessarily nazis either.


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you talking about *just being German*?


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or are you talking about being a member of the SS?


[06-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or of the Nazi party?


[06-Dec-19 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazis were hardly even human


[06-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like Confederates


[06-Dec-19 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Problem is we let Confederates write history for nearly a century.


[06-Dec-19 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should go thru this https://libguides.manchestercc.edu/c.php?g=273883&p=1827922

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LibGuides: World War II Remembered: The Generals and the Admirals:...
LibGuides: World War II Remembered: The Generals and the Admirals: German Generals & Admirals


[06-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm talking about people directly responsible and partaking in war crimes. Like one Franz Halder, who was, oh, merely Chief of OKH before german system broke down completely and Hitler started replacing everyone ('43). Who later in life got a high civilian award from US for literally writing eastern front history.


[06-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Karl Doenitz got 10 years in prison for "planning aggressive war"


[06-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah, I guess that never happened.


[06-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Aflerd Jodi got hung for a ton of shit messing with civilians and basically coming up with the idea of the death camps


[06-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
many generals who were out of immediate public eye got out like this (and worked with him).


[06-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Erich Raeder got life for unrestricted submarine warfare (let out early cause he was getting old and sikkly, so he did get out a book praising Hitler in 1955)


[06-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
so people who were dumb and didn't know what was good for them had an example made out of them for PR.


[06-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Otto Moritz Walter Model killed himself to escape judgment


[06-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
those who were willing to cooperate, did. Business as usual, really.


[06-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hermann Goering as the big mastermind got sentenced to hang, but managed to kill himself last minute


[06-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wilhelm Keitel took responsibility for his orders, got hung


[06-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Erwin Rommel chose to kill himself after he was found to be a bit too close to those plotting to kill Hitler (both in terms of relationships and feelings)


[06-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who the fukk are you talking about that wrote history for us?


[06-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This Franz Halder guy?


[06-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated, today is the 30 year anniversary of a Canadian who killed 14 women and then himself because he was mad women were taking "nontraditional" jobs


[06-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
just look it up. I'm not up to the task of retelling your history for you right now.


[06-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy only got the Wehrmacht exalted


[06-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't get the Nazi party exalted


[06-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The two are different things.


[06-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
ignore for a second the smokescreen of 'US WON THE WAR AND KILLED ALL THE NAZIS WOOOHOOO' and check out how the people in charge before '43 fared.


[06-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Wehrmacht generally went around burning down houses and shit against the Soviets, and raiding trade with submarines


[06-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was the SS that were to deal with jews and such


[06-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Completely distinct entities. Never in contact or cooperation, no sir.


[06-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note that as I noted above


[06-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
pushing this angle is the greatest achivement the german leadership got after the war.


[06-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
we actually punished wehrmacht guys for their shitty war crimes


[06-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Today when people even speak well of the Wehrmacht, they're not saying it needed to go burn down Norwegian houses


[06-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The general sentiment today is that a lot of warfare in WWII was highly immoral on both sides


[06-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the Wehrmacht's submarines being a big problem


[06-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and firestorm bombing being *marginally* acceptable.


[06-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was a tool at the time to say SOVIET ARMY WORST ABOUT WAR CRIMES


[06-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
not many people buy that today.


[06-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
'different standards of the time'. I've heard that, I disagree (today the standards are just as lousy, we simply haven't seen a major industrial war since WW2 and immediate after), and it doesn't change too much.


[06-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying there were different standards as to why


[06-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think practically everybody on every side escaped punishment for war crimes


[06-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
ESPECIALLY the Japanese and Americans


[06-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Franz's whole deal was to basically posthumously exonerate the Wehrmacht leadership to justify cold war attitudes


[06-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
now that the cold war is over, his stuff holds way less weight.


[06-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And US history class doesn't go, like


[06-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
WEHRMACHT BAD US ARMY GOOD


[06-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It mostly focuses on the actual nazi party and how they had a habit of killing jews, gypsies, and soviet soldiers en masse, then it shifts gears to talk about how amazing US production was, then finally how shitty it was we nuked japan


[06-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
US firestorm bombing gets way, way more coverage than like, whether the Wehrmacht was justified against the Soviets


[06-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
US history class goes, Nazi bad, everyone else ehhhhhhhh fellow traveller you knowwww do what you gotta do and follow orders and all that


[06-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And what is covered about the Germans vs. Soviets is how utterly shitty the Germans were about destroying infrastructure and civilian stuff


[06-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The utter devestation of Leningrad etc.


[06-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't work like this. Did any german industrial leaders get punished? I don't know off-hand since I never cared before, but since the big company names from the era are mostly still around and not dissolved, I assume not.


[06-Dec-19 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
...*industrial leaders*?


[06-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you seriously saying that we should've hung the people in charge of Volkswagen?


[06-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would be itself basically a war crime.


[06-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't punish civilian industry for the decisions of the leadership and military.


[06-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's INCREDIBLY fukking shitty to suggest doing so.


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's tantamount to saying we should've just burned all of Germany.


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
...state capitalism anyone?..


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to punish state capitalism by going after the state


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
but I guess it only works when it needs to.


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
not the fukking capitalists


[06-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
so who comprises the state then? Who makes the decisions and supports them?


[06-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
'there was Hitler and the SS and fellow travellers'.


[06-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
w/e


[06-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It certainly wasn't the VW leadership.


[06-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They did not really hav a say in what happened


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```War changed production to military vehicles—the Type 82 Kübelwagen ("Bucket car") utility vehicle (VW's most common wartime model), and the amphibious Schwimmwagen—manufactured for German forces. As was common with much of the production in Nazi Germany during the war, slave labor was utilized in the Volkswagen plant, e.g. from Arbeitsdorf concentration camp. The company would admit in 1998 that it used 15,000 slaves during the war effort. German historians estimated that 80% of Volkswagen's wartime workforce was slave labor.[citation needed] Many of the slaves were reported to have been supplied from the concentration camps upon request from plant managers. A lawsuit was filed in 1998 by survivors for restitution for the forced labor.[17] Volkswagen would set up a voluntary restitution fund.[18]```


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
ehhhh


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
(yes citation needed, but the lawsuit is sourced)


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
they had no say in this.


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was the same with Werner von Braun


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
His rokkets were built with slave labor


[06-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
he specifically asked if they could just, you know, not


[06-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
slave labor made rokkets less reliable (it's not just the workers would be exhausted and make mistakes, they'd deliberately sabotage crucial parts like internals that can't be easily inspected, so something like a tank or rokket would fail catastrophically)


[06-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the conditions appalled him


[06-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
when he told an SS officer about his concerns, he was threatened.


[06-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually because of his reluctance he was imprisoned


[06-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler himself had to pardon Werner for the sake of the rokketry program.


[06-Dec-19 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not saying literally everyone was full-on supporting and promoting, and the Reich did have a policy of replacing (compensated or otherwise) the owners of businesses that didn't want to play ball from way before the war. But just blanket say 'oh they had no say in it', ehh. Same with Wehrmacht. There were people in commanding position opposing the war crimes. Blaskowitz comes to mind, he got reassinged to less politically sensitive position in France and later Western front, after protesting the treatment of polish people. And then suicided under very odd circumstances despite being basicly guaranteed to be pardoned at the trials.


[06-Dec-19 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
but then you have the fact that the entire german plan for the war with USSR had troops 'living off the land' (i.e. robbing the population of their food) as a core part of the strategy. Logistics couldn't really keep up, so it was inevitable.


[06-Dec-19 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
is it a war crime? Well I guess it doesn't directly single out the jews so it's not as obvious. But then couple that with Reich's overall position of starving out the population for political reasons, and in practice you wouldn't be able to really tell a difference.


[06-Dec-19 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
(also my discord is fucking up so sorry for double posts)


[06-Dec-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/473406-nikki-haley-dylann-roof-hijacked-confederate-flag-which-was-seen-by

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Haley: Dylann Roof 'hijacked' Confederate flag seen by South Carol...
Former United Nations Ambassador and South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) says that Dylann Roof, who shot and killed nine black Americans in a Charleston church in 2015, "hijacked" the meaning of the Confederate flag.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20191511_haleynikki_gettyimages.jpg


[06-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a war crime mainly if it's *targeted* at civilians, or made without considering hurting them.


[06-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything is okay if it's actually militarily necessary


[06-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of what the Wehrmacht did was not.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the Wehrmacht had some sway in the way it enacted things. It could've taken lighter approaches within the orders given.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
VW had no such luxury.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who opposed the use of slave labor was imprisoned, full stop.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
They had no real control over it.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
SS officers did.


[06-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the big reason why SS officers were executed.


[06-Dec-19 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were the ones in charge causing the slave labor to happen and be so horrid.


[06-Dec-19 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Dec-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
UPS tweeted thanks to the cops, for killing a teamster's union member


[06-Dec-19 09:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
#PowerArmorForTeamsters


[06-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
job well done.


[06-Dec-19 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[06-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
This is why hostage situations shouldn't be handled by cops


[06-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Arvid#8335
🤔 May I ask then


[06-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Arvid#8335
Who should handle hostage situations?


[06-Dec-19 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actual negotiators.


[06-Dec-19 09:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Hostage situations are usually handled by negotiators. Since this was a chase I don't think they had the time to get one there.


[06-Dec-19 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
all cops should be trained to negotiate and deescalate


[06-Dec-19 09:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Usually though cops don't or shouldn't engage in a Chase. Esspecially if it can lead into a dangerous situation. So the fact dispatch gave them an all clear to pursue into traffic is a fault in itself.


[06-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gizmodo.com/bernie-sanders-has-a-150-billion-internet-for-all-plan-1840262776

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Bernie Sanders Has a $150 Billion 'Internet For All' Plan
Modern life is increasingly impossible to live without the internet but according to the FCC, more than 31 percent of Americans still lack access to high-speed broadband connections. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders wants to change that, releasing a lengthy $1...
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[06-Dec-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/strong-u-s-job-growth-showcases-economys-resilience-idUSKBN1YA1IL

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Strong U.S. job growth showcases economy's resilience
U.S. job growth increased by the most in 10 months in November as the healthcare...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191206&t=2&i=1460910253&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB513Y


[06-Dec-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
U.S. job growth increased by the most in 10 months in November as the healthcare industry boosted hiring and production workers at General Motors (GM.N) returned to work after a strike, the strongest sign yet the economy is in no danger of stalling.


[06-Dec-19 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure people returning form a strike counts as job growth :hopeless:


[06-Dec-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those jobs already existed they were just on hiatus


[06-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Leave it to hardcore capitalists to say that a worker on strike is a lost job already.


[06-Dec-19 09:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1203017353547534337

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[06-Dec-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's kind of like saying walmart installing more self checkout counts as job growth


[06-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Arvid#8335
>One plus size woman on random poster


[06-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Arvid#8335
>"OMG Civilization is going to collapse"


[06-Dec-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's not even ugly


[06-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Arvid#8335
She looks fine


[06-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
By 19th century standards that woman is fukking hot


[06-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
People would be saying the poster is a bit lewd to display.


[06-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I guess fukk having people who aren't anorexic be shown, gotta make sure only absolute MODELS are shown.


[06-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's like, do you want to *actually* objectify women?


[06-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would you say the same for a man shown on a poster?


[06-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if this fukk isn't enraged when they show a guy with dad bod doing lawn work on a poster


[06-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
then that's just plain sexism.


[06-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, feminish SHOULD be fighting you, you sexist fukkhead.


[06-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I have seen people that yes, would be upset at a guy with a dad bod doing lawn work


[06-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They straight up only want the best to be shown.


[06-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why does googling dad bod only give me buff dudes


[06-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who don't get what a dad bod is


[06-Dec-19 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
Gimmie dat belly


[06-Dec-19 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
Upon my back :lusty:


[06-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/dec/01/billionaires-only-please-london-vault-for-the-ultra-rich-opens-its-doors

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Billionaires only, please! London vault for the ultra-rich opens
Exclusive safety deposit bank near Harrods angles to be world’s most expensive
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[06-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a just world, everyone accepted by this place would hav their head on a fukking pike.


[06-Dec-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notice that it says they will refuse people who don't measure up to "a certain calibre"


[06-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
justifying it as preventing criminals from putting stuff there


[06-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
then right after goes WE WANT RUSSIANS, CHINESE, AND MIDDLE EASTERNERS


[06-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, they want people who commit large scale fraud, and swing elections


[06-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want the people who will get parliament to defund the NHS


[06-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do not want some actual Londoner who works for a living and earns a good salary.


[06-Dec-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a physical location?


[06-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[06-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
May it literally fukking burn to ashes.


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively, hav the London police raid it and Harrods


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
find what those fukkers are hiding.


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
may all themoney and gold inside melt into a fucking puddle


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually guaranteed that Russia is storing shit in Harrods that they use for nefarious purposes.


[06-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that no warrant would ever be served to open up one of its boxes.


[06-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/us/politics/abortion-planned-parenthood.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/us/politics/abortion-planned-parenthood.html
How a Divided Left Is Losing the Battle on Abortion
Miscalculations, and an unexpected victory by President Trump, have put abortion access at its most vulnerable point in decades, and the left on the defensive. Now it is trying to recover.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/01/us/politics/01plannedparenthood-top/01plannedparenthood-top-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
so, tl;dr


[06-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich elites who support abortion rights are out of touch


[06-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
the people "on the ground" hav like no money to fight with


[06-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
So by the time people in New York and California recognize the threat, it's too late.


[06-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they don't hav a fukking clue where to put their vast piles of money.


[06-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
what's the wire hanger sign?


[06-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hanger to destroy the fetus.


[06-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Abortion clinics so no more hangers.


[06-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the time of Roe v Wade


[06-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Arvid#8335
Women used to use hangers to destroy the fetus before abortion was legalized


[06-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are shutting down every clinic they can.


[06-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The abortions that happen are bakk-alley procedures.


[06-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now Republicans are trying to say that back alley abortions never happened/were exaggerated


[06-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also saying Sanger was bad for being racist because her racism benefits them


[06-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These are also the people who say racism isn't bad


[06-Dec-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other methods were throwing themselves down stairs stomach first and other self destructive methods out of desperation


[06-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can buy abortifacients easily at any health supply store.


[06-Dec-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but that wasnt always the case


[06-Dec-19 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is what the right tries to play off


[06-Dec-19 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and some people don't even know about abortifacients


[06-Dec-19 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention those are likely next on the chopping block of law


[06-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's part of why Republicans are making it murder to do an abortion.


[06-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just prove they bought abortifacients and put them in jail for life.


[06-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Execute them, even, if it's a doctor that did it for a woman.


[06-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how intense Republicans are now.


[06-Dec-19 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and every time the supreme court strikes down another abortion law, they just throw it right the fuck back up in a different state


[06-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is NOT uncommon for women to be jailed for inducing an abortion.


[06-Dec-19 10:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
In Ireland in the north UK ruled parts a woman had a miscarriage and binned it. One of her housemates found it in the bin and called the police. She got a 2 year suspended sentence. 
How dare someone be infertile.


[06-Dec-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what was she supposed to do? turn it over to the coroner for an autopsy and a funeral service?


[06-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We're going to get to the point where this happens


[06-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woman is raped, gets abortion


[06-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rapist probably doesn't go to jail and if he does it's what, 20 years? Way less than that probably.


[06-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woman gets death penalty.


[06-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@prism stryder(intexda) One of the things a lot of places require are funerals yes


[06-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want to shame the woman even if it isn't her fault


[06-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at it as we put this fetus into a casket


[06-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at it you whore


[06-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silly Its


[06-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
you think the rapist will actually go to jail.


[06-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll get off scott-free and be praised as a hero by the right


[06-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
while the woman suicides


[06-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are not the party of justice.


[06-Dec-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a

__**_SOCIETY_**__


[06-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I said "if"


[06-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but 20 years? Come on, man.


[06-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're being way unrealistic.


[06-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll get 2


[06-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans will argue he shouldn't've


[06-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah won't get that far


[06-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rape kit will be tossed into a freezer and not touched for 15 years


[06-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll become a Senator


[06-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
she'll become dead.


[06-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, do realize how all this meshes up


[06-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are not *coincidentally* trying to keep a shitty fragmented healthcare system at the same time they're trying to restrict abortion access


[06-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ask them whether abortion clinics should bus women in from other states to compete across state lines.


[06-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
See them writhe as they come up with an answer.


[06-Dec-19 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hell that corroborates my theory that American "patriots" don't even care about the unity of their nation to begin with, they just wish to see it casually divided among ideological lines


[06-Dec-19 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(And also racial to an extent)


[06-Dec-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/12/05/WHO-CDC-data-shows-measles-cases-up-30-percent-globally/1511575562512/


[06-Dec-19 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
we need to start fining the bajeesus out of anyone who rejects a vaccine for a nonmedical reason


[06-Dec-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway


[06-Dec-19 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/wrkclasshistory/status/1203074171439370241?s=19

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#OtD 6 Dec 1989 14 women, most of whom were training in engineering fields, were murdered in a mass shooting at the École Polytechnique in Montreal. The killer targeted women, claimed he was "fighting feminism," and killed himself after shooting 28 people #herstory
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[06-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
shocker
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/06/politics/white-house-response-judiciary-letter/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/06/politics/white-house-response-judiciary-letter/index.html
White House says it won't participate in impeachment hearing
The White House on Friday blasted the House's impeachment inquiry as "completely baseless" and a "reckless abuse of power" ahead of a deadline set by House Democrats for the White House to say whether it would participate in the impeachment proceedings.
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[06-Dec-19 11:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Incels are not an entirely new phenomenon


[06-Dec-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
if you are charged with a crime and you don't show up in court for your trial the cops arrest you and you get held in contempt


[06-Dec-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
but the law doesn't apply to rich people


[06-Dec-19 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
so


[06-Dec-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then trump jsut gets poisoned by a russin mcdonalds employee?


[06-Dec-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
why would the russians poison him


[06-Dec-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
they love him


[06-Dec-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point i was thinking of epstein and his trial


[06-Dec-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if shit gets too hot in america, russia probably has a hotel he can stay in for afewe months


[06-Dec-19 11:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Seems the brits are running drills for the queens death.


[06-Dec-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt she immortal?


[06-Dec-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>running psychological drills in case the literal welfare queen in charge kicks the bucket

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[06-Dec-19 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They run drills often


[07-Dec-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8973d0a5d464e7c337e8b7f8b35eb634

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US envoy: US has `other tools' if Iran's bad actions go on
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — U.S. Ambassador Kelly Craft warned Iran on Friday that the Trump administration will keep up its maximum pressure campaign and use “other tools” if Tehran continues its...
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[07-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/473463-elon-musk-wins-lawsuit-brought-by-british-cave-diver-he-called-a

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Elon Musk wins lawsuit brought by British cave diver he called a '...
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk won a defamation lawsuit Friday that was brought against him by a British cave explorer, whom Musk had referred to as “pedo guy” on Twitter.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/elonmusk_489769706.jpg


[07-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And now we've got a legitimate strategy


[07-Dec-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/473461-supreme-court-halts-subpoena-to-deutsche-bank-for-trump-financial

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Supreme Court halts subpoena to Deutsche Bank for Trump records
The Supreme Court on Friday granted President Trump's emergency request to temporarily block a congressional subpoena for his financial records from Deutsche Bank.
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[07-Dec-19 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again


[07-Dec-19 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the final stay


[07-Dec-19 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
SCOTUS has until Dec 13 to decide to grant a permanent stay


[07-Dec-19 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really do have to wonder just how damaging Trump thinks the records are, given that by contrast he quite readily released the memcon of the Zelensky call thinking it wasn't damaging at all


[07-Dec-19 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically trump did a lot of tax fraud and such to make himself appear richer to other rich folk, and poorer to the IRS, he also probably has a few incriminating purchases and transfers of funds with other countries


[07-Dec-19 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a few mafia ties as well


[07-Dec-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
~~yoshi~~ donald trump commits tax fraud


[07-Dec-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also the matter of his sister being a probably long time judge in new york until he became president and the spotlight fell on his entire family


[07-Dec-19 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
him becoming president basically threw her legal sabotage intot he limelight and she had to retire


[07-Dec-19 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his financial records could get more than just him in trouble especially sicne his family has been running financial shenanigans ever since his grandfather was exiled here


[07-Dec-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
donald trump is by all means, the fuck up of his family


[07-Dec-19 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
made all the worse by the fact that he became president and thne tried to mafia don the entire thing...


[07-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/473467-ocasio-cortez-wont-you-look-at-that-amazon-is-coming-to-nyc-anyway#

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Ocasio-Cortez: 'Won't you look at that: Amazon is coming to NYC an...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) slammed news that Amazon is building a headquarters in New York City but touted the fact that it will not receive any financial incentives from the local or state government.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexnadria_sandersbernie_111419gn6_lead.jpg


[07-Dec-19 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah but this still isn't in LIC, and where it *is* going has already gotten $6 billion in financial incentives to begin with...but Alexandria can still take that victory lap


[07-Dec-19 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/u91ctugBCsg

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commanded to love | performing false emotions for tyrants [cc]
Some reflections on the the crucial role emotion can play in keeping us stuck in abuse — and in recovery and immunisation. You can support the channel at: ht...
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[07-Dec-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/2019/12/6/20998714/rudy-giuliani-quid-pro-quo-tweets-ukraine-biden

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Rudy Giuliani just blew up Trump’s "no quid pro quo" talking point
Posting from somewhere in Ukraine, Trump’s lawyer tweets the quid pro quo.
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[07-Dec-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[07-Dec-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudy just be quiet


[07-Dec-19 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you think we're in the darkest timeline imagine one where President Giuliani served two terms.

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[07-Dec-19 02:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I find more fascinating is the story in the sidebar finally confirming why orange man is orange


[07-Dec-19 02:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://shop.bronxcolors.com/product/boosting-hydrating-concealer/

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[07-Dec-19 02:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you look at this site's homepage you can see they're running a sale based on a WaPo article confirming Trump's a customer


[07-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I assumed spray tans


[07-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he's orange everywhere


[07-Dec-19 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was famously considered a bad spray tan because of its unevenness


[07-Dec-19 02:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
turns out, I guess, Trump just didn't think to put foundation on his eyelids


[07-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is stuff you're supposed to use for touch up not face paint


[07-Dec-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This brings me to question


[07-Dec-19 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How the fuck can someone like Trump be considered charismatic?


[07-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's what poor people think rich people are like


[07-Dec-19 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everything about him screams "childishly unprofessional"


[07-Dec-19 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When in reality rich people shop at Target


[07-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking defamation is a very high bar.


[07-Dec-19 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be.


[07-Dec-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, forget everything else https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/06/adam-schiff-pence-jennifer-williams-impeachment-077532

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Schiff: Pence aide provided new impeachment evidence — but VP's ...
The request indicates that impeachment investigators are still seeking relevant evidence.
https://static.politico.com/69/18/ba6acaf94626a61e133a890826c7/191119-jennifer-williams-ap-773.jpg


[07-Dec-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the WH aides has info that could torpedo Trump's defense in the ass


[07-Dec-19 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence classified it immediately to prevent its use


[07-Dec-19 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he not want to be president?


[07-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man if it became a double impeachment...


[07-Dec-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi isn't all there.


[07-Dec-19 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At times she is but not others


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone else should have been chosen as speaker.


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pelosi was against impeaching W, remember.


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For someone as concerned about optics as she constantly is, she's horrendous at using them to her advantage


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats could've done it.


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's coming to bite her.


[07-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's just been way too milquetoast.


[07-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should have been Fudge.


[07-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pelosi is strong enough now but still


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I feel like if you really wanted to fix this shit with a time machine


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
you'd hav to like, impeach LBJ


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then Reagan


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then both Bushes


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then Clinton


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and maybe even Obama


[07-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just to lay the groundwork to really make the Democrats strong enuff at making a case for justice to go after Trump


[07-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a lot of those would probably be censuring rather than impeaching (especially Clinton and Obama, probably LBJ too)


[07-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's just, we're way too far down the slope


[07-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans with Clinton basically cemented the framework to just ignore actual reasonable stuff in favor of partisanship


[07-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do think there's gonna be enuff evidence that Republicans at least struggle to vote against removal


[07-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we are really at a point where I think President Warren could just grant citizenship to all illegals


[07-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and crush Republicans like bugs doing so.


[07-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS wouldn't be able to stop her


[07-Dec-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress wouldn't be able to stop her even if Republicans had 55 Senate seats.


[07-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only like 5 will vote for removal and they're fucked anyway


[07-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Currently


[07-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that number will rise to 15 eventually.


[07-Dec-19 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether it goes to 19 is the question.


[07-Dec-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Around that seems reasonable.


[07-Dec-19 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll survive by like 5


[07-Dec-19 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44769_6_Myths_About_the_Confederacy_
I know this is rather choir-preachy but there's one part of it that's relevant

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6 Myths About the Confederacy, Debunked
Time to clear up some misinformation. 1) "It wasn't about slavery." It was totally about slavery. How do we know that? Because the Confederate States were very clear about that particular fact in their Declarations of Secession. Take Mississippi ...
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/img/charles/2015/06/26/LGF1326.jpg


[07-Dec-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Then 150 years of history happened, including the Civil Rights movement, when Southern Conservatives took to flying the Confederate flag as a symbol of opposition to equality, and the Republican party began its Southern Strategy, best explained by GOP strategist, Lee Atwater:

> You start out in 1954 by saying, “Ni##er, ni##er, ni##er.” By 1968 you can’t say “ni##er”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites…. “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Ni##er, ni##er.”


[07-Dec-19 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is so GOP


[07-Dec-19 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They always knew their politics would hurt people


[07-Dec-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1201955465565003776?s=19

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Excited to announce my plan to help alleviate student loan debt! The HELPER Act would allow individuals to use money from their 401(k) or IRA to pay for college or to pay back student loan debt. Watch the video to learn more! https://t.co/2C6fNEnZOU
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[07-Dec-19 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think he's trying to communicate with us


[07-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"literally become a hobo the moment you're no longer an active worker!"


[07-Dec-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, lovely, you can use your retirement savings to pay for the crushing debt, so that you can't use debt forgiveness to sneak by with a secure future.


[07-Dec-19 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/house-democrats-slam-trump-admin-illegally-withholding-puerto-rico-hurricane-n1096421

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House Democrats slam HUD for 'illegally withholding' Puerto Rico h...
Lawmakers say HUD is breaking the law by missing a congressionally mandated deadline to make $10.2B available in hurricane aid to the island.
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[07-Dec-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/speedreads/882860/trump-bizarrely-declares-war-against-flushing-toilets-10-times-15-times

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Trump bizarrely declares war against 'flushing toilets 10 times, 1...
President Trump is taking 'no obstruction' very seriously.
Trump is apparently sick of flushing toilets, the world unnecessarily learned on Friday. In some unknown place, some unknown people are cursed with 'flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times' before everything goes where it...
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[07-Dec-19 05:41 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[07-Dec-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump lives in an alternate reality where bananas cost $10 orange foundation is spray tan and toilets need to be flushed 15 times to get the shit out


[07-Dec-19 07:09 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
there was episode of KOTH about toilets that need to be flushed 15 times


[07-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
if a toilet doesn't go down after a two flushes, or if you can tell a second flush won't help, just get the plunger lmao


[07-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
but trump is the dude who just dropped his umbrella when he couldn't figure out how to angle it past the air force one doors


[07-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/trump-umbrella-idgaf-boarding-gif-12856778

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[07-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
he probably doesn't even know what a plunger looks like


[07-Dec-19 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he that full of shit that he needs 15 flushes to get it all down?


[07-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Id imagine the plumbing for the whitehouse to be fairly old. Probably hasn't been updated since the 80s.


[07-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't the internal plumbing that is the problem if your toilet's clogged


[07-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
you don't need advanced state of the art pipes to pressurize water


[07-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
You sure? Old pipes going bad can cause difficulties in things going down or for things to back up.


[07-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
we're talking about toilet clogs, not pipe clogs


[07-Dec-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you sure he;s not flushing paperwork...?


[07-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
well, he eats it, so he is technically flushing paperwork every time he shits


[07-Dec-19 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true...


[07-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
They are all connected in the same system.


[07-Dec-19 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds liek he needs less fiber in his diet


[07-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
nah, more fiber = softer stools because you shit more


[07-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
you want tons of soluble fiber in your diet


[07-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
makes you gassy, but apparently humans are supposed to be gassy


[07-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-americans-favor-us-support-pro-democracy-protesters/story?id=67142758

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Majority of Americans favor US support to pro-democracy protesters...
A new survey shows that a majority of Americans believe the United States should support pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Business/trump-Xi-file-rt-ml-191107_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[07-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
>  The survey, sponsored by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation, found clear majorities of Americans disagree with key aspects of Trump's foreign policy, including his decision to not protect Syrian Kurdish partner forces and to remove sanctions on Turkey for its offensive against them.


[07-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
> According to the survey, 68% of Americans said they would be in favor of the U.S. showing support for the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong, even it angers China, while only 14% of Americans supported the Chinese government.


[07-Dec-19 07:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt make any deals with china, china is unlikely to uphold them when the time comes for their end of the bargain


[07-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0
don't trust China, China is asshole
a message to President Trump from Hong Kong Hero. here's the legend himself: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRVxDVbGi0ACMpnM7Q1mzaA here's the video i cut ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3tnH4FGbd0/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
china is asshoe


[07-Dec-19 07:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-mexico-cartels/trump-says-he-will-hold-off-designating-mexican-drug-cartels-as-terrorist-groups-idUSKBN1YA2MB?il=0

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[07-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 the cartels already got to him


[07-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
literally the world's bicycle


[07-Dec-19 07:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Trump said last week he would make the designation to disrupt the cartels’ finances through sanctions such as asset freezes and travel bans. But Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador objected, saying he wanted U.S. cooperation on fighting drug gangs, not intervention.

“All necessary work has been completed to declare Mexican Cartels terrorist organizations,” Trump said on Twitter.

“However, at the request of a man who I like and respect, and has worked so well with us, President Andres Manuel @lopezobrador we will temporarily hold off this designation and step up our joint efforts to deal decisively with these vicious and ever-growing organizations!” he said.


[07-Dec-19 07:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds more like the cartels got to obrador instead


[07-Dec-19 08:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-worldbank/trump-calls-for-world-bank-to-stop-loaning-to-china-idUSKBN1YB010?il=0

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Trump calls for World Bank to stop loaning to China
U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday called for the World Bank to stop loaning ...
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[07-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/KpRUXrU

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Hong Kong district councillor managed to fend off the police, complain about the civilians feeling disturbed by the police
https://i.imgur.com/DQx08qHh.jpg


[07-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
> Hong Kong district councillor managed to fend off the police, complain about the civilians feeling disturbed by the police


[07-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
sound at source


[07-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Woppa1Woppa/status/1201327753695354880

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Kwong Po-Yin, the pro-democracy district councilor from Whampoa West district who got re-elected in the #HKDCElections, defends her local residents and puts #HKPolice in their place

#StandWithHongKong #HongKongProtests

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[07-Dec-19 09:20 AM] ononim#8141

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[07-Dec-19 09:20 AM] ononim#8141
why is she and her piece of shit hasband not hung


[07-Dec-19 09:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because money!


[07-Dec-19 09:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/glitter-glitterthrow-whatever-gif-5217758

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[07-Dec-19 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly that;s the answer for why half of these corrupt scumfucks arent in prison or hanging.


[07-Dec-19 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other half is family/foreign connection


[07-Dec-19 01:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/eve_rebecca/status/1203073439520710658

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[07-Dec-19 02:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Kinda found out Trump's a good person


[07-Dec-19 02:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
He signed a lot of good bills lately


[07-Dec-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
signing good bills doesnt make him a good person


[07-Dec-19 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he signed the hong kong bill because he wasnt allowed to veto it


[07-Dec-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he signed 3 bills in the middle of bad publicity to make himself look better to his base


[07-Dec-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a few bills he signed of his own volition because they were general life improvements that werent based on profit


[07-Dec-19 02:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Signing bills is his job


[07-Dec-19 02:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And he's had a pretty light job thanks to Mitch


[07-Dec-19 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he should be signing about 200 more bills but mitch has blocked those because they were brought forth by democrats


[07-Dec-19 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
there are hundreds of bills that would pass the senate if moscow mitch allowed them to be voted on


[07-Dec-19 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

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House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republican...
Legislative paralysis gripped Capitol Hill well before impeachment started.
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[07-Dec-19 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
and I know there's at least a few of them that would be veto-proof too


[07-Dec-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans let the hong kong bill pass because that;s good fucking PR right there


[07-Dec-19 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still a risky move to put it in front of Trump


[07-Dec-19 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess they discussed it with him first


[07-Dec-19 02:49 PM] Crow#5457
they probably have to suck his cock to get him to agree with it without vetoing


[07-Dec-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This is faster good PR than a trade deal with china and it will make you look like a hero"


[07-Dec-19 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
||"Now put your dick in my ass, sir! I love the way you ream america in the ass!"||


[07-Dec-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/618adcc5cf34a1412c3fe5d0f65b54e6

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Pro-government protesters denounce Hong Kong 'rioters'
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[07-Dec-19 05:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1203050997423255553

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"We have a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers, and other elements of bathrooms," Trump says.

"People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once." https://t.co/asDjGxuFts
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[07-Dec-19 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1203048075759095808

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Trump jokes that environmentally friendly lightbulbs "gives you an orange look."

"I hate to say it, it doesn't make you look as good. Of course, being a vain person that's very important to me."

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[07-Dec-19 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[07-Dec-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he looks orange in natural light too


[07-Dec-19 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also don;t shine a black light on him or you'll see things


[07-Dec-19 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-Dec-19 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quotations of Chairman The Sex Haver

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[07-Dec-19 06:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1201888480223285249

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British people guess how much health care costs in the US — and they are shocked. https://t.co/dkRzFRYoJD
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[07-Dec-19 06:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, we linked the article from *that very same news organization* revealing why trump is orange last night


[07-Dec-19 07:02 PM] jlun2#8758
http://globalnews.ca/news/6267679/india-rape-burn-alleged-dies/  rip

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Indian woman who alleged gang rape dies in hospital after being se...
The woman was attacked in the state of Uttar Pradesh by a group of men that included two of the five she had accused of gang rape last year, police said. The two were out of custody on bail.
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[07-Dec-19 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/12/small-firm-lawyer-tells-biglaw-team-to-eat-bowl-of-dicks-during-settlement-negotiations/

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Small-Firm Lawyer Tells Biglaw Team To ‘Eat Bowl Of Dicks’ Dur...
Don't try this 'confidential negotiating tactic' in practice, folks.
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[07-Dec-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
KIND OF IMPORTANT https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/HCM%20FINAL%20v.3.pdf


[07-Dec-19 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(in particular, the section on pp.5-6 about common fallacies is good knowledge to arm yourself with)


[07-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one will care


[07-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abovethelaw.com/uploads/2019/12/Chris-Hook-Filing-1.jpg @byte[] lel

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[07-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the second best "attorneys acting like shit" I've seen this year


[07-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The first was the guy who had domestic issues with his wife and wanted his Bad Dragon dildos (w/cumtube) back, his crockpot too

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[07-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
not bad.


[07-Dec-19 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I totally lost it at "I'm going to let the long dick of the law fuck Allstate"


[07-Dec-19 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
calling him a cumstain was just "icing" on the "cake" :twismug:


[08-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1203365449146228737

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(((Rep. Nadler))) (@RepJerryNadler)
https://twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1203365449146228737
The Framers worst nightmare is what we are facing in this very moment. President Trump abused his power, betrayed our national security, and corrupted our elections, all for personal gain. The Constitution details only one remedy for this misconduct: impeachment.
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[08-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not for the content, but for the brackets...


[08-Dec-19 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that is used intentionally by a lot of Jewish people to throw off the people who use it to target Jews


[08-Dec-19 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm guessing someone on his media team did it


[08-Dec-19 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's to take any power out of the use of it


[08-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, I just mean that I didn't expect a 60yo congressman to be using it


[08-Dec-19 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
oops, sorry for the interrupt; will post later then


[08-Dec-19 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hardly interrupting anything important...


[08-Dec-19 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/04/784732180/nearly-700-000-snap-recipients-could-lose-benefits-under-new-trump-rule

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Nearly 700,000 SNAP Recipients Could Lose Benefits Under New Trump...
The Trump administration has finalized a rule to limit food stamp benefits for single able-bodied adults who can't show that they work more than 20 hours a week, though legal challenges are possible.
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[08-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/bobcesca_go/status/1203450311177900032

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Trump hates that births occur at nine months. 

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[08-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare.


[08-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems edited but reminder that the medical industry benefits heavily from preemies and C sections


[08-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The latter which generally is not necessary


[08-Dec-19 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm vaguely capitalist but even I think the medical industry needed to be leashed.


[08-Dec-19 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Insulin should be price controlled, for example. The medical industry has done fuck all to try to cure diabetes for decades, maybe talking away profit margins will help them do that.


[08-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not edited.


[08-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He misspoke.


[08-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
(probably meant 'torn')


[08-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder the president's a moron.


[08-Dec-19 02:56 AM] jlun2#8758
https://globalnews.ca/news/6263003/samoa-anti-vaxxer-measles-epidemic/

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Samoa charges anti-vaxxer as deadly measles epidemic shuts down nation
The battle to quell the devastating outbreak has been complicated by a vocal anti-vaccination movement, officials say.
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[08-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/12/intel-trump-troops-syria.html

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Intel: Here’s how many US troops Trump wants to keep in Syria
After months of uncertainty and ambiguity surrounding US troop levels in Syria as part of President Donald Trump’s mission to secure the war-torn country’s northeast oil fields, the Pentagon is finally disclosing a number.
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[08-Dec-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
600


[08-Dec-19 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
saved you a click


[08-Dec-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically none


[08-Dec-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
saved you from trying to actually analyze a bunch of bullshit most likely done because of kompromat.


[08-Dec-19 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
heh. Apparently even our local Christian church supports vaccination.


[08-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
God gave people responsibility for being healthy and they have the means to do so..


[08-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder what brought up the official statement on the matter from them.


[08-Dec-19 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe anti-vax movement reached even our backwater.


[08-Dec-19 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churches often support vaccination.


[08-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their congregations don't.


[08-Dec-19 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The driving force of anti-vax is a distrust of outside authority that people view as being an enemy of their ability to stay religious.


[08-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Atheism is on the rise, gov'ts are secular, so churchgoers see gov'ts, these faraway behemoths that "robbed" the church of power as being the great evil.


[08-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What do you want, the government breaking down doors to vaccinate people against their will"


[08-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I'm like


[08-Dec-19 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hell yeah


[08-Dec-19 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If smallpox comes back, or any major epidemic, it has to be treated like a war against a hostile invader


[08-Dec-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah because that worked so well for drugs and terrorism


[08-Dec-19 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf


[08-Dec-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I think people who do not vaccinate their kids for nonmedical reasons should be maximally fined


[08-Dec-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
But that doesn't mean you can just arrest people and give them life sentences for it


[08-Dec-19 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
That's not productive


[08-Dec-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing productive or not will really be done.


[08-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want anti-vaxxers around.


[08-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anti-vaxxers are highly conservative by their nature of origin.


[08-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans generally do not push for more vaccinations.


[08-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Q48dwopVU

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You're Wrong About COPPA (Real Law Review)
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[08-Dec-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The super tl;dw here is that YouTube's solution to COPPA is to treat all people as children by default.


[08-Dec-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And YouTube creators can indeed be sued hard.


[08-Dec-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] People who do not vaccinate their kids and who have kids that become patient zeroes for outbreaks should be fined at minimum and put in prison/have custody revoked maximum.


[08-Dec-19 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Public health is not something to mess with, and is bigger than any individual decision.


[08-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.voanews.com/usa/pentagon-concerned-russia-cultivating-sympathy-among-us-troops

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Pentagon Concerned Russia Cultivating Sympathy Among US Troops
Russian efforts to weaken the West through a relentless campaign of information warfare may be starting to pay off, cracking a key bastion of the U.S. line of defense: the military.

While most Americans still see Moscow as a key U.S.
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[08-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
@Nebbie That's all Google can really do at this point. Data collection is so ingrained into their system at this point; to suddenly stop having to collect data goes against their very existence.


[08-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you don't understand the problem.


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC is saying that cookies cannot be collected on those under 13.


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any persistent identifier


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
even not tied to any actual identity


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
is now considered verboten for kids


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
as well


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
any video could be said to be child-directed.


[08-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's vague as shit.


[08-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
To be fair, there shouldn't be any sort of persistent identifier in the first place, anonymized or not.


[08-Dec-19 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think you quite get that a) the FTC added that rule after the law was passed b) the internet in 2019 cannot function without cookies


[08-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously


[08-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
no cookies for kids ever is IMPOSSIBLE


[08-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cookies are used just to store THAT YOU ARE FUKKING LOGGED IN AT ALL


[08-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the issue with having politicians pass laws written by lawyers so far removed from anything involved


[08-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ignoring every expert consulted apart from cops


[08-Dec-19 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah, the issue is Ajit Pai


[08-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more than that, TSP


[08-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cookie thing wasn't in the law written.


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC made rule changes that greatly expanded the law


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
making users of a site qualify as operators


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and making cookies count the same as SSNs


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I don't remember there ever being a thing on cookies


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well there IS now


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the PROBLEM


[08-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
As far as I knew, it was "no data collection on users under 13"


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're considering cookies data collection now


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they're considering website users operators now


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you see the problem here?


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means that Pewdiepie making videos for kids


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah, NOW I see the problem


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and YouTube using cookies to store what they've clikked on


[08-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
means that the FTC fines Pewdiepie $4 million


[08-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Just the concept of cookies as data collection by itself. *Wow*.


[08-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply


[08-Dec-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the sky is falling MORE than most on YouTube are saying.


[08-Dec-19 10:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50654146

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Kim Jong-un mulls 'Christmas gift' decision
With no shift in sight from either side the coming weeks may be crucial for US-North Korean diplomacy.
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[08-Dec-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/giuliani-caused-shock-among-ukrainians-for-working-with-expelled-politician-who-proposed-leasing-crimea-to-russia/

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Jerry Lambe
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Giuliani ‘Caused Shock’ Among Ukrainians for Working with Expe...
In an attempt to exonerate President Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani has been working with right-wing media outlet One America News Network (OAN) to produce a television special featuring a string of current and former Ukrainian officials defending Trump’s conduct in withholdin...
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[08-Dec-19 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[08-Dec-19 10:38 AM] Crow#5457
giuliani's making some kind of tv special parading a bunch of very corrupt ukrainian officials or former officials around "under oath" (though not really because it's not court testimony) to "expose" the corruption of the bidens


[08-Dec-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Andrii Artemenko was expelled from Ukraine’s Radical Party and accused of treason by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2017 for meeting with President Trump’s then-personal attorney Michael Cohen, and Russian-American businessman and former Trump associate Felix Sater on January 27 in New York — where a strategy was discussed that would permit Russia to lease Crimea for between 50-100 years.


[08-Dec-19 10:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Ukrainian prosecutors accused Artemenko of conspiring with Russia to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” by designing a strategy that would “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula, which Russia forcibly and illegally annexed in 2014. Artemenko reportedly told the Daily Beast that he played “the key role” in helping Trump’s investigations.


[08-Dec-19 12:33 PM] Opponent#3498
...you people say the military hates Trump in general, which ass on earth was this data about 'positive statements' pulled from?..


[08-Dec-19 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
voanews, legally distinct from voxnews.


[08-Dec-19 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[08-Dec-19 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
also you people are missing the point. The idea of trying to limit 'data collection' so broadly at all, as a law, is a recipe for disaster in general, even without overt sabotage like here.


[08-Dec-19 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
'change society through law' (which is what this is) always makes for a cure that's worse than the disease.


[08-Dec-19 12:39 PM] Opponent#3498
so someone deliberately made changes that makes it impossible for content providers and search platforms to operate legally, period. This is what can happen every single time.


[08-Dec-19 12:40 PM] Opponent#3498
strongly reminds me of many of our own laws. Impossible to follow, exist because someone specifically wanted _that_ and doesn't care about any side-effects, or, better yet, exist not to be followed but to be able to label everyone as criminal to strong-arm them into cooperation on demand.


[08-Dec-19 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
the military hating trump and a certain percentage of soldiers having positive feelings for russia aren't mutually exclusive


[08-Dec-19 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
> Russia’s goal, they said, was not so much to swing the result of the elections but to seed U.S. military personnel with the right type of disinformation so that they would be predisposed to view Russia and its actions in a more favorable way in the future.


[08-Dec-19 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
> “The new polls reveal a significant change among Republican voters who historically have been opposed to Russia,” he said. “More and more Republicans have changed their views on Russia because of President Trump’s positive statements about Russia and [Russian President Vladimir] Putin.”


[08-Dec-19 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
also, apparently it's mostly republicans that're viewing russia more favorably, mainly because the leader (trump) is also doing it


[08-Dec-19 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/voice-of-america/

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Voice of America - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes).  The reporting is factual and usually sourced.  These are the most credible media sources. See all Least ...
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[08-Dec-19 01:01 PM] Crow#5457
<https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/>


[08-Dec-19 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
certain percent is 10%, not 46%. Unless it's already implied the survey never was intended to represent anything accurately and is just bogus data hinting at 'great things abound', which was my point to begin with.


[08-Dec-19 01:25 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, the mediabias report looks legit.


[08-Dec-19 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3e951612161237ebbf289ffc0e88bfeb

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In Florida, Trump says he's Israel's best pal in White House
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Saturday that Israel has never had a better friend in the White House than him because, unlike his predecessors, “I kept my...
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[08-Dec-19 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/042a12442c738b4c70177e02e2c11f9d

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Minister: Brazil can't stop deforestation without help
MADRID (AP) — Brazil can’t stop deforestation in the Amazon without the help of rich countries, the country’s environment minister said at the United Nations' two-week climate change...
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[08-Dec-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/hong-kong-sees-biggest-protests-since-democrats-election-boost-idUSKBN1YC00L?il=0


[08-Dec-19 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Vast crowds of black-clad demonstrators thronged Hong Kong on Sunday in the largest anti-government protests since local elections last month that boosted the pro-democracy movement seeking to curb controls by China.
It was the first time since August that the Civil Human Rights Front - organizer of million-strong marches earlier in the year that paralyzed the Asian finance center - had received authorities’ permission for a rally.

It estimated turnout of 800,000 while police said 183,000.


[08-Dec-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/473522-biden-no-party-should-have-too-much-power

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Biden: 'No party should have too much power'
Former Vice President Joe Biden said he’s concerned about what would happen if Republicans get “clobbered” in next year’s election, suggesting such an outcome would be harmful to bipartisanship.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_112119getty.jpg


[08-Dec-19 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok boomer


[08-Dec-19 05:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
too bad Kanye has already endorsed Trump


[08-Dec-19 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Wall street wants more republicans, My masters demand it and as such if we have too many democrats it will disturb their influence on things. I can't tell you how bad that would be for my verizon sponsered paychecks!"


[08-Dec-19 05:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/marysuewriter/status/1200487573950480385

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[08-Dec-19 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[08-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/05/meet-the-lefts-founding-fathers/

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Meet the Left’s Founding Fathers
Patriotic Americans are raised with a respect for our Founding Fathers: Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and George Washington being among the most famous. But there is a sizable segment of our
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[08-Dec-19 06:02 PM] ononim#8141
Read to die instantly


[08-Dec-19 06:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
I had to commit myself to an institution one entry in


[08-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[08-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
maybe it's because I'm not big on history, but I'm pretty sure that at least two of the people on that list are directly or indirectly related to the foundations of capitalism


[08-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol Immanuel Kant as a leftist


[08-Dec-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
>30th is Obama


[08-Dec-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
I see they're trying to send my sides to the moon before Elon can.


[08-Dec-19 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
How do you even be a founding father if you're new?


[08-Dec-19 06:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow Before maybe Marx, none on that list would be particularly leftist as we know today and all the reasoning is wrong.


[08-Dec-19 06:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like, Plato is first but he advocates for a strictly classed society and not a classless society.


[08-Dec-19 06:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which is a big red conservative flag


[08-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
plato's republic


[08-Dec-19 06:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
In fact he hated democracy


[08-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
one thing that conservatives like to keep repeating every couple decades is that the left is the "new left"


[08-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
not even decades, they were doing the same thing a decade ago with obama, even though he wasn't center-right at most economically


[08-Dec-19 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
now I can agree that there's a sort of transformation going on in the democratic party since trump got elected


[08-Dec-19 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
it's mainly being driven by bernie


[08-Dec-19 06:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

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Why nonviolent resistance beats violent force in effecting social,...
Harvard Professor Erica Chenoweth discovers nonviolent civil resistance is far more successful in effecting change than violent campaigns.
https://news.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Chenowerth-art.jpg?w=945


[08-Dec-19 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://elpais.com/politica/2019/12/07/actualidad/1575750166_158370.html

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Martirio y redención de Abdel
La investigación reconstruye el laberinto emocional de un yihadista gay de 29 años abatido tras intentar matar a una policía autonómica catalana
https://ep00.epimg.net/politica/imagenes/2019/12/07/actualidad/1575750166_158370_1575750928_rrss_normal.jpg


[08-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
basic translation: terrorist half a year ago or so tried to storm a cop building, got shot, investigation showed he was a moderate that turned radical after realizing he was gay


[08-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same story as the florida nightclub guy I guess


[08-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
@Teaspoon did he get the D though


[08-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently yes


[08-Dec-19 07:26 PM] ononim#8141

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[08-Dec-19 07:27 PM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking


[08-Dec-19 07:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_screams in absolute terror_


[08-Dec-19 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
But can the child consent


[08-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Whyyyy


[08-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
👀 🍆


[08-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
@Teaspoon are from Spain


[08-Dec-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-gop-sheds-its-dignity-and-chugs-his-kool-aid

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Trump’s GOP Sheds Its Dignity, and Chugs His Kool-Aid
The impeachment decision in the Senate is foregone because the Republicans there have joined Trump's suicide cult.
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[08-Dec-19 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
(Wilson)


[08-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
*are you


[08-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[08-Dec-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives https://i.redd.it/ycwy18oyhd341.jpg

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[08-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
@Teaspoon I am trying to remember ways to make every state butthurt online


[08-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Mainland Spain was just to call them mexicans


[08-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Do Catalunyans get mad if you call them Spanish


[08-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's only the same brand of butthurt as talking about pizza to italians


[08-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And yes


[08-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Nice


[08-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, under half of them do


[08-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The other around half will say "duh"


[08-Dec-19 08:00 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
What if they say Madrid is Spain or something like that  @Teaspoon


[08-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
And yes, I do talk shit about Italian pizza online 
How could you tell


[08-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the capital so I would hope it's Spain...


[08-Dec-19 08:01 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Which was the only other Spanish city that mattered then?


[08-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Mexico city?


[08-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
:dab:


[08-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
The one where it's autiscally composed by blocks like it was made by an autistic person with ocd


[08-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
m8 if you just want to shitpost there's a channel dedicated to it over at #memes-and-shitposts


[08-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
@Teaspoon only one of them is shitpost


[08-Dec-19 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Italian pizza _is_ shit though


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
American pizzas are much tastier


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
OOOOOH


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
proper new york style is best


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Barcelona


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Now I remember


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Napolitalatan pizza is fine


[08-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Other regional pizzas... eh


[08-Dec-19 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most are either bland or have stuff on them I don't care for, others are basically just stale bread with some tomato sauce


[08-Dec-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
The thing about the food industry in the US is that they are trying to get you to shovel as much of it as possible into your face as you can before you explode


[08-Dec-19 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't care about traditional recipes


[08-Dec-19 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
one of the ways that they do this is to make the food taste fantastic


[08-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
@Teaspoon I remember your speech and Internet laws being utter dogshit 
I believe they tried to stop online piracy and some other shit but I stopped following once cuanta razón and the other cancers became just a reposting ground


[08-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jokes on them I'm too frugal to eat


[08-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Is it as bad as I remember?


[08-Dec-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i now live in north carolina with no access to new york pizza... it;s a sad world


[08-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's about the same as the rest of western europe


[08-Dec-19 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I would say that a fair part of the obesity epidemic is because we made food taste better


[08-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
EU online and speech laws are massive turds so...


[08-Dec-19 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Which is... annoying


[08-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The things we use to make food taste better tend to be sugars.


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Industry of scale also made it so much cheaper


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I don't think food tasting better is at all the cause.


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Modern food is actually often incredibly bland.


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A factory can pump out 200k twinkies a day for 5c each and sell for 50c


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of modern snack foods rely ont he after taste instead of a proper flavor


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
one of the primary factors in whether and how much of a particular food someone will eat is how good it tastes


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that the flavorings of choice are just salt and sugar.


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
transport and retailing is where most of the cost is


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neither are good for you in very large amounts.


[08-Dec-19 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
"pure tastes" are better


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Also ia remember the family Court and similar systematic gold digging departments being worse or as bad as musican ones


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
particularly sweet and salty and to an extent umami and sourness


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
*I


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
*murrican


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The food that nobility ate hundreds of yours ago would taste amazing etc., but that's not why they got fat.


[08-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having pretty much unlimited access to food is a relatively recent thing for us as a species.


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having sugar in all the food we eat, too.


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
having food that tastes fantastic and having access to a lot of food tend to be correlated


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, people will still absolutely devour whole plats of mashed potatos


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
the blandest shit possible.


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that our food tastes better.


[08-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's that we can eat as much as we want almost.


[08-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Wish my parent country wasn't managed by monkeys shitting on the keyboard and using whatever pops up in the screen as policy


[08-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it just me or does hershey chocolate burn going down...?


[08-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't remember it doing so


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Haven't had in ages, though


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think they changed recipes soemtime around 2010


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to make it cheaper to produce


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised chocolate at all is still so cheap


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
mashed potatoes aren't bland if you add stuff to them lol


[08-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
like herbs and whatnot


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, we liv in a society where the primary thing people drink is basically a solution of sugar


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mashed potatoes with cheese is good, a little white pepper and some salt


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
With unlimited refills


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This bland thing isn't bland if you add spices


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if you want milk you could totes maybe almost in some restaurants pay double for a cup.


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, but who eats mashed potatoes plain?


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
that sounds disgusting


[08-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Crow#5457
and a waste of potato


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically just carbohydrates Crow


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a dud of a nature taste grenade


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society wouldn't work without such.


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need something for when people can't afford actual good food.


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly.


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Now I am hungry as shit


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
I will eat a Spain


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reeses peanutbutter cups kinda suck now too


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reeses pieces are better


[08-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you really want to end world hunger, stop the US' crazy amount of food waste


[08-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Find a way to make lettuce into bread and ship all of it to Africa.


[08-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like 95% of anything that isn't corn/wheat that's grown is just thrown out.


[08-Dec-19 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what especially doesnt help is that everytime america finds a healthy alternative to an unhealthy ingredient, the food industry pumps the price up to stop that shit


[08-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause farmers enjoy crazy subsidies


[08-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they massively overgrow for demand


[08-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
potatoes are basically ground-grown bread though


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Local store started selling bug meat


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
send potoooooooos


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Potatos go bad in their raw form


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was interested, until I saw the price


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
30 euro per kilo


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuuuuuck that


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Wtf


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to mash and dehydrate them to send to Africa etc.


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Just put honey in the open


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Then grill whatever comes


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
um, I thought one of the appeals of bug meat was that it was cheap as shit


[08-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Free food


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
In theory it will be but


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
CAPITALISM


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
must be some kinda overpriced marketing thing


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
:lunalick:


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Novel product means people pay more


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck did i just say about the food industry


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
I didn't read


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The food industry wants you to pay tons of money for anything new.


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
affordable alternatives to unhealthy things get pumped in price to keep people hooked on the unhealthy things because it;s cheaper


[08-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd charge $50 for stuffing if it was new.


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
:echo:


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Eat bats


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not necessarily about keeping people on the cheaper-to-make stuff


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about exploiting novelty.


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a big jar of coconut oil should not cost $20


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to pay as much as possible for things that cost as little as possible to make.


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The old stuff has had competition lower prices


[08-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
nobody wants to pay $20 for bread.


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything new, you're not yet resistant to overpaying on.


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So prices start out crazy high.


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They only go low if it becomes a really common item.


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The current food industry is based around having stable sellers like potatos bakking up cycling novelty items


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't *want* to change over to bug meat


[08-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want to kill it after a few years in favor of a new fad.


[08-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, a classic https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1203695927673798656

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Wow:

The House Judiciary Committee’s impeachment report claims that a president can be impeached without committing ANY criminal acts

All it takes are “illegitimate motives” to impeach a president—according to Democrats

They have nothing on Trump

This is all ju...
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[08-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gameplan seems to be to pretend there was never a president named Clinton


[08-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for President Ocasio-Cortez to declare all illegals citizens with the stroke of a pen and nothing can be done


[08-Dec-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3040798/sexual-grooming-offence-changes-rape-laws-urged-hong

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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3040798/sexual-grooming-offence-changes-rape-laws-urged-hong
Sexual grooming offence, changes to rape laws urged by Hong Kong l...
The Law Reform Commission has proposed some 70 changes to the city’s sexual offences laws, including ensuring offences cover LGBT communities and digital crimes.
https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/og_twitter_scmp_generic/public/d8/images/methode/2019/12/05/44909caa-1731-11ea-9462-4dd25a5b0420_image_hires_194821.JPG?itok=MypK64xh&v=1575546509


[08-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
> 'sexual offence laws'


[08-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
> digital crimes


[08-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
THE FUTURE IS HERE LADS


[08-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
:glowing_eyes:


[08-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRTuWYcmHu0&feature=youtu.be

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Joey Pockett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRTuWYcmHu0&feature=youtu.be
Daring New Comedy Special
the edgy new comedian who isn't afraid to speak his mind twitter: http://twitter.com/joeypockett help me afford a better bald cap: http://patreon.com/joeypoc...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QRTuWYcmHu0/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Dec-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/theres-one-less-con-man-in-congress-rep-duncan-hunter-resigns-923566/

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Peter Wade
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/theres-one-less-con-man-in-congress-rep-duncan-hunter-resigns-923566/
There's One Less Con Man in Congress, as Rep. Duncan Hunter Resigns
The announcement comes on the heels of a guilty plea to campaign finance violations this week
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/shutterstock_editorial_10490899f.jpg


[08-Dec-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
there's the new name


[08-Dec-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393265057598930955/653354615751835678/1575761155.png

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[08-Dec-19 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the dying earth generation


[08-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok doomer


[08-Dec-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's depressing


[08-Dec-19 11:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:depressed:


[08-Dec-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
[Fucking this planet into a coma intensifies]


[08-Dec-19 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We need another one to fuck over


[08-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Solar System is ours, might as well use it


[08-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
There literally isn't time.


[08-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
We don't hav the tech to colonize Mars.


[08-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Moon is like the only place we could easily go, but then you'd die of lung cancer in a year.


[08-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's if you hav SUPER MEGA DUPER BATTERIES


[08-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The solar system has the misfortunate thing that of the two nearby planets with reasonable gravity and day/night cycles


[08-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which are also in the habitable zone


[08-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NASA thought the primary danger with the moon was that the surface might be marshy and the lander would sink


[08-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Turns out the danger is microparticles


[08-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
both of them underwent climate catastrophes


[08-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
one an 80%+ volcanic resurfacing or something, the other just...couldn't hold on.


[08-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could have a floating colony on Venus


[08-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At the level where there's one atmosphere of pressure


[08-Dec-19 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd take decades to build, and trillions of dollars, just for like five people.


[08-Dec-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mars would require an artificial magnetosphere


[08-Dec-19 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So that's even more.


[08-Dec-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember watching this "hard" sci fi mockumentary where they had manned landings of each planet/major moon of the gas giants


[08-Dec-19 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mars you can go on the surface, use the soil as building material, just bury yourself so nothing gets thru.


[08-Dec-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck they insisted on a Venus landing idk


[08-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Russians wanted to see Venera or something


[08-Dec-19 11:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
from a server I'm in whose political leanings are a "bit" further right than here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636343782287081492/653348309867429891/warea36wke341.jpeg

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[08-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well you can...land. You just can't ever get off.


[08-Dec-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's amazing how easily the right eats Russian dogshit. It's like the Conservative Centipede.


[08-Dec-19 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just trikk America into not being a superpower cause spending all that money to affect the world is 'unfair' etc.


[08-Dec-19 11:48 PM] ononim#8141
wtf I love my government now


[08-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NATO isn't a competition


[08-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a defense pact


[08-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One where only the US has ever invoked the "attack on one is attack on all"


[08-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP must die.


[08-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically just a guy controlled by a mind slug now.


[08-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim word. Putin is the new age mastermind, clearly.


[08-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
A mind slug named Putin.


[08-Dec-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP has gone so far into a cult of personality that idk I don't think they'll like Haley in 2024


[08-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like that's who they're pushing but Jr. or Ivanka may butt in


[08-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooooh https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/11/12/path-to-removing-donald-trump-from-office-229911

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/11/12/path-to-removing-donald-trump-from-office-229911
There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office
It would take just three Republican senators to turn the impeachment vote into a secret ballot. It’s not hard to imagine what would happen then.
https://static.politico.com/28/58/f0daf27643f4869d84c5f8106193/gettyimages-1180138044-773.jpg


[08-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh oooh oooooh


[08-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I missed this, this is really important.


[08-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So remember, secret impeachment ballot, supposedly, would mean 30 Republican Senators voting to remove.


[08-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
As of over a month ago.


[08-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Allegedly, there are three Republicans planning to vote yes right now even if not secret.


[08-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They could instead vote to make it a secret ballot.


[08-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the same three senators who would vote for removal regardless?


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This info makes my estimates for likelihood of removal way off.


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means if it goes to the Senate, it's like a 90% chance of removal.


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's primarily then a question of whether it goes to the Senate.


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats recently said that they expect GOP removal votes on one hand


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
One hand is enuff.


[08-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
3 is all it takes to make it a secret ballot.


[08-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get a 70-30 vote.


[08-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP would cry about the secrecy for ages...but they'd not be able to figure out who voted which way in time.


[08-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's plausible.


[08-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is


[08-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do Dems rely on this


[09-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
or do they impeach, but never send it to the Senate, to make it hang over Trump?


[09-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a 90% success vs. a 100% semi-success.


[09-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone can use an acquittal vote


[09-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially because the GOP would have a few defectors


[09-Dec-19 12:01 AM] ononim#8141
I do love yet another 1000 messages long discussion on yet another weird legal thing what supposedly could oust Trump from the office while the shitbag himself is doing fourth year of his reign


[09-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Unified support against removing the president"


[09-Dec-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or


[09-Dec-19 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Total exoneration in the Senate!"


[09-Dec-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
these things take time


[09-Dec-19 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
more time than usual when one party is relentlessly obstructionist


[09-Dec-19 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then they turn around and say "the dems are moving too fast on peach mints!"


[09-Dec-19 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The WH response to being called to the inquiry was to say to 1) Not impeach and 2) Impeach as fast as possible


[09-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turley says Dems should slow the hekk down cause there's no evidence guys!


[09-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic tactic


[09-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just say everything.


[09-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time anyone figures out you're full of shit, it's over, and you've won.


[09-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because I feel like I have to say this, I would support the removal of any Democrat that did what Trump did.


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
any democrat would


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
they are fundamentally different than republicans


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would get on board with Clinton's removal if like, censuring wasn't an option.


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
the #1 rule of republicans is protect your allies


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring a president needs to happen. Regularly.


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats are happy to trash their own party


[09-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it happens regularly then it gets blown off


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Clinton and Bush deserved it but idk if Obama really did


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of censuring is to TELL the PUBLIC


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand what the weight of fiat does.


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The public CHANGES THEIR FUKKING OPINIONS because of what the gov't declares, Its


[09-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is an actual observable psychological phenomenon.


[09-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you do not censure or impeach when Presidents break the law, then you make the people believe that the lawbreaking in question is okay.


[09-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you DO censure, then you hurt reelection chances.


[09-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tangibly.


[09-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring regularly would make presidents fearful and avoid certain things.


[09-Dec-19 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeaching would then be able to carry weight, because you wouldn't hav a party that's just "nope no justice for us, only for you"


[09-Dec-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah the issue here is convincing the uneducated


[09-Dec-19 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The average Joe whose only political theory involves scrolling through TV channels in the afternoon


[09-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine being in the GOP position right now, as an average voter


[09-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
you keep getting told it's all nothing


[09-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
then one day you hear "President Trump has been impeached"


[09-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You clutch your nekklace of ivory balls hard, mutter about how it's all a hoax.


[09-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you hear "President Trump has been removed from office."

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[09-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You dig for stories to say it ain't so, you get Fox News saying that yes, there was quid pro quo


[09-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
what do you do?


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point, it's just too much, it all comes crashing down.


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The weight of it being officially decided is what matters.


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It could just be "President Trump has been censured for breaking the law."


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hearing Tucker Carlson say that


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The removal was unjust and partisan! Pence will save America!"


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
makes it true in the mind of the average voter.


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence then gets impeached too


[09-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then what?


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav McConnell trying to explain why he couldn't stop his fellow Republicans voting to impeach.


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this average voter's mind


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump and Pence did nothing wrong BUT


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tucker Carlson says they did


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half the GOP senators say they did


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
he doesn't know which half


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
he begins to think McConnell betrayed Trump


[09-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point, it's chaos.


[09-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't base a party on complete loyalty and resoluteness when half of it's setting fire to it.


[09-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, if the tools of the gov't aren't used to decide anything


[09-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the final word on Trump's actions is just Fox News


[09-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will just say he's great


[09-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that he's made America great


[09-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that anything else is a hoax.


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You NEED THE WEIGHT OF A GOV'T DECISION to actually go after wrongdoing.


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, @Itsthinking


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
since Clinton wasn't impeached


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's okay for the president to hav affairs with women who may not be fully consenting


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then lie about it under oath.


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forever onwards.


[09-Dec-19 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what voters think now.


[09-Dec-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why, when the allegations were Trump had affairs with hookers, and potentially underage girls, in manipulative ways...nobody cared.


[09-Dec-19 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's amazing to me is that IIRC Clinton was never disbarred


[09-Dec-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
```Censuring regularly would make presidents fearful and avoid certain things.```


[09-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
lowkey feels like EU and it's memetic 'deep concern'.


[09-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
but I guess there are people who care about that too.


[09-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EU's thing doesn't work because people think of themselves as a nation's citizens, and almost never as EU citizens


[09-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
"American" is an identity people often start with, and generally accept.


[09-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
I get what you're saying about 'levels of punishment carrying more weight when used sparingly' , sure


[09-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just that I don't see anything but removal actually doing anything at all.


[09-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's also not about how EU people percieve 'deep concern'.


[09-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Censuring would hurt reelection, and make them realize they need to change how they behave.


[09-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removal is for when they won't change.


[09-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's about the fact that this is their default response to any challenge, and this is where it ends. 'Deep concern'.


[09-Dec-19 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
there are protests in Riga with protesters demanding the protection of 'oppressed russian-speaking people'. EU is deeply concerned.


[09-Dec-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
(an example, there aren't actually any protests, yet, as far as I know)


[09-Dec-19 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We should probably also be a bit heavier-handed about the White House Press Secretary existing for the sole purpose of being the Ministry of Truth


[09-Dec-19 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, their entire job at this point is just to lie for the president


[09-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Hasn't that been their job for decades now?


[09-Dec-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but it;s not supposed to be


[09-Dec-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're just supposed to be answering questions regarding policy and upcoming changes or important announcements


[09-Dec-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they aren;t there to try and justify the presidents every horrifying decision, but thatls currently how it;s beign treated


[09-Dec-19 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1203435271611650048

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Statement from The President: "Right now in a number of states the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother's womb in the 9th month. It is wrong. It has to change." Watch. https://t.co/v5dx94Httn
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[09-Dec-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Dec-19 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
@prism stryder(intexda) dafug


[09-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1203443424277475332

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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1203443424277475332
This clip is from January 2018. It’s circulating again today because Trump says so many absolutely preposterous things that people can’t recall the ones from last week, let alone 2 years ago. https://t.co/eYHh7nCQRR
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[09-Dec-19 03:48 AM] illumnious#7938
fuck


[09-Dec-19 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean that's fair enough. A gift that keeps giving.


[09-Dec-19 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/653451915824463885/9r46pbmnfug31.jpg

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[09-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I've noticed a trend on twitter


[09-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a substantial amount of anti-impeachment accounts who respond to losing an argument with, specifically, challenging you on your small number of followers, then blokking within a minute.


[09-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Russian bots.


[09-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putin seems to be paying top dollar.


[09-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50 cent army


[09-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except it's Russia so like $0.01 army


[09-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thankfully posting "Kyiv" makes these people explode


[09-Dec-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm surprised they are _arguing_


[09-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Drink your vodka Dmitry"


[09-Dec-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
unless I've mistaken everything I've observed so far, that's not really a sign of bots


[09-Dec-19 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the bots and paid trolls don't argue they just tell you you're wrong


[09-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just do the absolute worst anti Russian thing you can come up with


[09-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They can't fight it


[09-Dec-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
and make a spectacle of the libtard for the audience


[09-Dec-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the point? it's not a fair fight


[09-Dec-19 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
you putting them in a supposed double bind will not cause them any problems


[09-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no fair argument with them


[09-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just confuse and frustrate and make upset


[09-Dec-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
or block them and avoid wasting your time


[09-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They make their two cents and go to their shithole village


[09-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully dead of alcoholism by 50


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's Russian trolls, not bots


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
one key thing is the argument structure


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
grammar errors no native speaker would make


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"you support the election fraud"


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with some clearly-copypasted talking points that aren't on the right subject.


[09-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like suddenly saying whistleblower should testify in an argument about not having people with indirect knowledge testify.


[09-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That particular one came the same minute they questioned follower account + blokked


[09-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck Russia


[09-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they posted the wrong talking point and realized they had to blokk me or they'd look bad.


[09-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There can be no global peace with a united Russia tbh


[09-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Split Russia in three north/south sections


[09-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Split it up into like six countries that can affect no one, take away their UN seat


[09-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give it to Germany


[09-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No country should hav UN security council veto power.


[09-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Send in French, German, and Bulgarian troops to destroy China's manmade islands.


[09-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Have every country in Africa disallow a US ship from entering ports after it blows up a civilian airliner.


[09-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair that was a software error


[09-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it really feels like you people are living in some alternate reality sometimes, not gonna lie.


[09-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Had the trackball over the wrong place


[09-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was user error with a terrible UI


[09-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, then you're mistaking "could be's" and "should be's" as "this is reality", it's obvious that this is a hypothetical scenario


[09-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
well, less 'this is reality' and more 'this is at least potentially possible in current conditions'


[09-Dec-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor lighting, multiple cursors for what should always be on the same target, no trakking of previous altitude numbers to indicate rising/falling.


[09-Dec-19 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people want a better world.


[09-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-private-legal-work-earnings

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Elizabeth Warren reveals she made $1.9 million from private legal ...
Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., received $1.9 million from private legal work during her time as a law professor stretching back three decades, according to a release by her campaign.
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[09-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Peak absurd


[09-Dec-19 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Warren says tax the rich, but this high profile lawyer and university professor made almost 2mil after 30 years of work!"


[09-Dec-19 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus


[09-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Your average software engineer would make more in that time


[09-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
that's $63k a year


[09-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
...


[09-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be a self-own if FOX's readers/viewers weren't so easy to deceive


[09-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare someone earn a wage they could liv off of.


[09-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way to earn enuff to eat should be to run your own "small" business.


[09-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using your small loan of $57 million


[09-Dec-19 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
$2 million in 30 years is fucking nothing considering where she comes from


[09-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How much has Alan Dershowitz made in that time in between being friends with Epstein and writing opinion pieces?


[09-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hard to say, but I imagine his recent BS about how SCOTUS can declare partisan impeachment unconstutional earned him a few hundred grand.


[09-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the record, SCOTUS took up impeachment with Nixon, and their ruling was that they cannot ever make any future rulings on it.


[09-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Please let the president be king, he needs to make statutory rape not a thing...please?!"


[09-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Two justices dissented to say that MAYBE if Congress literally impeached via coin toss there might possibly be a case...maybe.


[09-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dershowitz has this weird thing


[09-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where he has been friends with Epstein for decades


[09-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other 7 basically said yes, Congress can impeach with a coin toss if it wants, it's up to them, that's the actual rules, fukk off forever.


[09-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And also said ages of consent and statutory rape shouldn't exist


[09-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's incredibly suspect.


[09-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible he's not into kids, he's just so used to reciting what his rich buddies say that Epstein playing down things got him to think that.


[09-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously like


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
what if he's just THAT MUCH of a brown-noser?


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like this is the one thing he's been consistent on, that women are whore who lie about rape and people should have sex with preteens legally as long as they "consent"


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can see it happening.


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, Nunes
https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1203771592003801088

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This guy stalked me in hotel lobby after my appearance on ⁦@foxandfriends⁩ Saturday AM maybe he was in Vienna with @cnn   #goodnightVienna
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[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
These fukks with money and no thoughts of their own.


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe


[09-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(unfortunately for his narrative, the reporter had camera rolling a while before approaching Nunes)


[09-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nunes is part of the scandal


[09-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's had phone calls with Giuliani around the time of the aid delay


[09-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nunes directly talked with Parnas et al


[09-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's losing it likely cause if one single shred comes out that implicates him in a crime, it will explode.


[09-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we're veeeeeery close.


[09-Dec-19 07:35 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[09-Dec-19 07:35 AM] illumnious#7938
Skree

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[09-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like what does the GOP do


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Nunes gets indicted for trying to mess with delivering of aid?


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the narrative you take as a Republican that it's a partisan frame job when your top guy is in jail?


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Present it as partisan BS


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think at that point, Fox News will retreat


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nope


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just try to air other stories


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Fox and Friends


[09-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did you see their recent thing, Its?


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fox maybe, but not Fox and Friends


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/05/fox-news-judge-explains-why-he-would-certainly-vote-to-impeach-president-trump/

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Fox News judge explains why he would ”certainly” impeach Pres....
"The Democrats have credibly argued that [Trump] committed impeachable offenses,” Judge Andrew Napolitano says
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[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is today.


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think is gonna happen if Nunes catches fire?


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you know the excuse for this right


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX always has a guy "on the other side"


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because "oh he's just butthurt Trump didn't appoint him to SCOTUS"


[09-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's how they can say "fair and balanced"


[09-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Napolitano IIRC is not supposed to be that guy.


[09-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I am extremely tired of the Boomer Box being relevant


[09-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And drop them in the worst time slot


[09-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one under 35 watches TV


[09-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/lindsey-graham-adam-schiff-senate-impeachment-trial-ab2e5c8b-eab1-4799-a3d8-e1ee0185f571.html

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Lindsey Graham says he won't call Adam Schiff as witness in Senate...
“When 51 of us say we’ve heard enough, the trial is going to end," Graham added.
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[09-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all up to Roberts anyway, which the base hate for being a neocon plant or something


[09-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the trouble is like


[09-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
any coverage Fox News after a certain point does


[09-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
will start burning them.


[09-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they strongly cover a certain GOP narrative, and the next week it's completely on fire with all sources saying it's BS, they hav to shift the narrative


[09-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they hav to do that every week, it gets very difficult to keep up


[09-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they try to defend Nunes, and he goes to jail, then that just blows up on them


[09-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They end up drawing more attention to GOP corruption.


[09-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
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[09-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
warren is below bernie now


[09-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
and bernie's still 12% below biden


[09-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wonder if Trump accusing Biden is actually pumping Biden's support.


[09-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire narrative now is Trump/Biden


[09-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, exactly as the rich want.


[09-Dec-19 09:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden is one jump scare away from keeling over


[09-Dec-19 09:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My 93 yo grandpa looks to be in better physical and mental shape


[09-Dec-19 10:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1203442242050043906

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Florian 🥁 (@BetaODork)
https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1203442242050043906
Is everything okay, Joe? Stacking spaghetti sauce with Joe Biden. 

Joe Biden: "So you go ahead and you stack spaghetti sauce in the store, in, in, in the supermarket. You control the guy or the woman who runs the, r-r-r-runs the, brings out the carts on, on, on, on a fork...
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[09-Dec-19 10:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's glitching


[09-Dec-19 10:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he clips through the next debate stage, do we panic?


[09-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, my boss talks like this


[09-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'll repeat the same word, or parts of it, 5 times before continuing


[09-Dec-19 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/27f00e4feaa2755f25ab514cecda7add

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China claims everyone in Xinjiang camps has 'graduated'
BEIJING (AP) — People who were at vocational training centers in China's far west Xinjiang have all ”graduated" and are living happy lives, an official said Monday. But Uighurs and other...
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[09-Dec-19 10:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They graduated, and are now living happily in the land of the dead!"


[09-Dec-19 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/09/sport/wada-ban-russia-decision-rusada-doping-spt-intl/index.html

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Russia handed four-year-ban by WADA over doping scandal
The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has unanimously agreed to ban Russia from major international sporting competitions for four years over doping non-compliance.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190924110207-rusada-tease-super-tease.jpg


[09-Dec-19 11:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-israeli-american-council-national-summit-2019

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Remarks by President Trump at the Israeli American Council Nationa...
The Diplomat Beach Resort Hollywood Hollywood, Florida (December 7, 2019) 8:45 P.M. EST THE PRESIDENT:  Well, thank you very much.  And thank you to Miriam.  Thank you.  (Applause.)  She’s so cute, she said, “I didn’t finish my speech.  What should I do?”  I sa...
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[09-Dec-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Hollywood Hollywood, Florida"


[09-Dec-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[09-Dec-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Denver Denver, Nebraska"


[09-Dec-19 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
WHY IS THERE A HOLLYWOOD IN FLORIDA


[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
KYS AMERICA


[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/07/medicare-chief-asked-taxpayers-to-cover-stolen-jewelry-077761

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Medicare chief asked taxpayers to cover stolen jewelry
Seema Verma requested $47,000 for items taken from an SUV that took her to a speech.
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[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(Applause.)


[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(Applause.)


[09-Dec-19 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(Applause.)


[09-Dec-19 12:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
12 MORE YEARS
12 MORE YEARS


[09-Dec-19 12:11 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Teaspoon because it's Florida, duh.


[09-Dec-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AUDIENCE:  Booo —


[09-Dec-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god


[09-Dec-19 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This reads like such a bad fanfic


[09-Dec-19 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with equally bad dialogue


[09-Dec-19 12:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I am so embarrassed at having a US passport right now


[09-Dec-19 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once again he also mused at becoming a life long president


[09-Dec-19 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:derpchrys:


[09-Dec-19 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want footage of this conference because half this audience reaction sounds made up as shit...


[09-Dec-19 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article238150139.html


[09-Dec-19 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
**Pardoned soldiers are Trump’s special guests at closed-door fundraiser in Aventura**


[09-Dec-19 12:54 PM] ononim#8141

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[09-Dec-19 12:55 PM] ononim#8141

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[09-Dec-19 12:55 PM] ononim#8141

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[09-Dec-19 03:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnnlive/


[09-Dec-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this another hearing?


[09-Dec-19 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
final one


[09-Dec-19 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:faceclaw:


[09-Dec-19 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the pain came fast this hearing


[09-Dec-19 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
THE ECONOMY THO


[09-Dec-19 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck the GOP so hard


[09-Dec-19 03:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't impeach because the reason is boring compared to Nixon and Clition. Is what I got from this...


[09-Dec-19 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look at all thes job tho! JOOOBS!!!"


[09-Dec-19 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in giuliani news https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/giuliani-caused-shock-among-ukrainians-for-working-with-expelled-politician-who-proposed-leasing-crimea-to-russia

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[09-Dec-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-reauthorizes-use-of-cyanide-bombs-to-kill-wild-animals/

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[09-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"cyanide bombs"
excuse me what


[09-Dec-19 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M44_(cyanide_device)

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M44 (cyanide device)
The M44 cyanide device (also called a cyanide gun or cyanide trap) is used for the killing of coyotes, feral dogs, and foxes. It is made from four parts: a capsule holder wrapped with cloth or other soft material, a small plastic capsule containing 0.88 grams of sodium cyanid...
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[09-Dec-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does the stream keep dropping for anyone else?


[09-Dec-19 04:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2019/11/29/fsb-russian-academics/

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[09-Dec-19 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And here we go with the constant whining over every little detail and a role call on every little thing to waste the most time possible


[09-Dec-19 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/banghead-desk-westwing-exasperated-frustrated-gif-5390034

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[09-Dec-19 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[09-Dec-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1201196272159526913?s=20

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[09-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/frustration-frustrated-bang-head-gif-5341546

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[09-Dec-19 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
w-wut?


[09-Dec-19 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a lot there


[09-Dec-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a lot to unpack here but i believe it's be best to just burn the whole suitcase


[09-Dec-19 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seriously, what the fuck


[09-Dec-19 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/6/20998972/pete-buttigieg-mckinsey-fundraisers-elizabeth-warren

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Pete Buttigieg’s McKinsey problem, explained
Pete Buttigieg needs better answers on what he did at McKinsey — and who’s donating to his campaign and what they’re getting.
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[09-Dec-19 05:41 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim well the internet 'blockade' is kinda ineffecient, and so will be this. People should remember soviet times and how much everyone valued knowledge and information they were being deprived of. Also, I'm of a rather low opinion of social sciences universities in general, so the question posed ('do we actually need that many') I consider not entirely invalid, context nonwithstanding.


[09-Dec-19 05:45 PM] Opponent#3498
plus, right now it's _much_ harder to actually block someone from getting info they want, all this does is encourage people to try, with the forbidden fruit angle.


[09-Dec-19 05:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is for the people who have nothing to do.


[09-Dec-19 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
We don't live in a hunter gatherer society


[09-Dec-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
There is not a specific need for everyone to do something _you_ think is productive. It's totally fine for people to study the arts and I'm tired of people major-shaming over it


[09-Dec-19 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
"want a job? then you shouldn't have graduated with a degree in european history" ok boomer


[09-Dec-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
like _bitch_ when boomers were our age employers would be _falling over their feet_ to hire young white men


[09-Dec-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
especially ones with degrees, and it didn't really matter what the degree was


[09-Dec-19 05:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I was talking about "can get information if they want"


[09-Dec-19 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
this was directed at Opponent not you


[09-Dec-19 06:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However, I find some colleges as waste of money and time. Some of them teach stuff you can self study online, or teach stuff without any practical use.


[09-Dec-19 06:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some teaching methods are best to be desired.


[09-Dec-19 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] well, for vast majority of people you kinda have to have a skillset (and often some form of legalise to back that up, at least here) others would be willing to pay for. Sure, there's no need for 'productive jobs' on a nation-wide scale (at least, perhaps, not in US), but an individual's employment with a degree in aforementioned european history are extremely flimsy, and the government needs only so many of them around.


[09-Dec-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
people don't often take jobs that are related to the thing they studied in school


[09-Dec-19 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
something like sociology can at least find employment in marketing/advertisement, but it's a rougher job market than most others. Again, you need only so many.


[09-Dec-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a new fad that I'd like to see die out


[09-Dec-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
e.g. my mom (a boomer) has a BA from Notre Dame university and is a project manager at a software consultancy


[09-Dec-19 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
total nonsequitur


[09-Dec-19 06:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine for a moment someone like Steven Pinker saying they are a "European Historian" without the official college or uni credentials to back it up.


[09-Dec-19 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
well you gotta survive somehow byte, it's that or the burger joint. Nobody wants her original degree, and that's understandable.


[09-Dec-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff the burger joint isnt hiring either


[09-Dec-19 06:14 PM] Opponent#3498
so even that choice is out.


[09-Dec-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the burger joints are trying to replace their staff with conveyor belt ovens


[09-Dec-19 06:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well we'll get there eventually anyway. Low-skilled labor IS getting cheaper and/or more redundant, and long-term it's not a bad thing. Short to mid... Well.


[09-Dec-19 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even hvac wont be safe from robot interference, the only thing keeping it at bay is thAT robots are currently expensive, once they cheapen boeing will absolutely replace their hvac techs with robots


[09-Dec-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one thing i'll be glad about is that self driving cars might knock the auto industry down a peg or 2 as more people use them for commutes and they get installed as public transport in places


[09-Dec-19 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
so what I was saying @byte[] yes, it's totally fine to study arts and get art degree. Do not expect to be making money off it though, was my point.


[09-Dec-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff art is super profitable right now


[09-Dec-19 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
in the form of furry comissions and such, but that's not... really the intended way... I _think_.


[09-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
or maybe it is.


[09-Dec-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
absolutely get that art degree, it will be amazingly profitable if you persue it right


[09-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah, you're right, I wasn't even talking about art. That can produce _something_.


[09-Dec-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh liberal arts?


[09-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
what can social studies degree produce? Except the awful drivel they publish, I've read some of the stuff they write and build their degrees on.


[09-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it really is an eye-opener.


[09-Dec-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
socialologist, economist, political scientist, Industrial-Organizational Psychologist, geographer, psychologist, urban and regional planner, anthropologist and archeologist


[09-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
historian


[09-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
survey researcher


[09-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's just the top 10 most profitable list, there;s more


[09-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. Fair enough, I suppose in US that would be more useful.


[09-Dec-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
degrees tend to have several paths to them depending onw hat you want out of them


[09-Dec-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m studying hvac, but i;m sure applied science degrees apply to a few of the programs my college offers


[09-Dec-19 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
art can apply to animation, painting, photography, prop creation, architecture, decorators, modelers, video game development


[09-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, the question remains, how many of these the industry actually wants at any given time.


[09-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
over here, the answer is 'not many'.


[09-Dec-19 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
over here we need arts majors


[09-Dec-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
the neoliberal pressure to churn out "stem people" is causing problems


[09-Dec-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm taking a stem course and I am not a stem people...


[09-Dec-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d say i;m more an informational/librarian person


[09-Dec-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I cant do mechanics worth crap, but i can explain to you how to do it and how it operates


[09-Dec-19 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
pressure how?


[09-Dec-19 06:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Learn to code"


[09-Dec-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically america has put a certain importance on trades employees


[09-Dec-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and other such STEM programs


[09-Dec-19 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have to be useful to a higher leader or else you arent a productive member of society


[09-Dec-19 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk well talking boxes and 'media personalities' is one thing, but I thought the whole point of neolib was open market and personal wealth aquisition. So I'd expect it to be that either there are decent jobs in some fields, or there aren't.


[09-Dec-19 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other type of pressure is the propaganda that STEM fields are the only way to make a living wage anymore


[09-Dec-19 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you don;t take stem you go homeless


[09-Dec-19 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
mm, okay.


[09-Dec-19 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
probably much more true here than in US, I'd think.


[09-Dec-19 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
funny that they'd use this angle.


[09-Dec-19 06:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent They push STEM Field as the new big thing because "Steve Jobs did it". There's an attitude that in order to be the new big thing you should be in a technical in-demand field. But that's the ideology on it. The reality is that everyone going into coding lowers the value of coders and big tech can lower the value of it and pay out less for more.


[09-Dec-19 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the more hvac techs there are,the less valuable they are


[09-Dec-19 06:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Coupled with the post-union landscape, none of these engineers can actually collectively bargain


[09-Dec-19 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile if i pull off my plan of going after am library science degree i can go after this jobs:
Archives and special collections librarian
Children’s librarian
Competitive intelligence analyst
Electronic resource librarian
Information architect
Information officer
Internet trainer
Knowledge management specialist
Learning resource center librarian
Librarian and media specialist
Program consultant
Publishing manager
Rare books curator
Reference librarian
Research analyst
School librarian
Semantic modeler
Senior program manager
Subject specialist librarian
Taxonomist
University library director
Urban branch manager
Web content strategist
Youth services librarian


[09-Dec-19 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, the problems this would bring is obvious.


[09-Dec-19 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/w8c_m6U1f9o

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[09-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eugh the GOP shits


[09-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
THAT WAS HIS PRESUMPTION


[09-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, that was his testimony under oath.


[09-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally just interrupting questioning with lies.


[09-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
People eat that up on Twitter btw


[09-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
PRESUMPTIONS PRESUMPTIONS


[09-Dec-19 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A presumption under oath is sworn testimony


[09-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/politics/doj-contempt-wont-prosecute-barr-ross/index.html

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DOJ won't prosecute contempt citation against Barr and Ross
The Department of Justice won't prosecute the attorney general or Commerce secretary after the House voted earlier this month to hold them in criminal contempt, Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen said Wednesday.
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[09-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sky must fall.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@AaronMk It is about the issue with people who *actually* can do it. Every developing country will whine about "lack of qualified specialists", but actually means "we have a bunch of useless 'qualified' specialists". And the problem still persists, and no one ever guesses, why actually good specialists leave for greener pastures of developed countries.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
For the Presidency to assert privilege to prevent any investigations or condemnations is ridiculous.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive is out of control.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every one of the last 20 presidents should've been removed from office.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sky must fall.


[09-Dec-19 08:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nhs-leeds-hospital-floor-jack-williment-phone-photo-a9239041.html

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Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of child on hospital floor,...
Jeremy Corbyn said the exchange showed Mr Johnson ‘just doesn’t care’ after PM took more than a minute to address picture in interview
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[09-Dec-19 08:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
📱 Yoink


[09-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Boris Johnson has refused to look at a picture of a four-year-old boy forced to lie on the floor in an NHS hospital, eventually taking the phone of a reporter attempting to show it to him and putting it in his pocket.


[09-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[09-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
imagine rather committing theft than being shown proof of how their shitty defunding of health services is affecting children


[09-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's again, the game where you win by not playing. No matter how he'd react, the press would either frame him as lying, or affirmed him being 'inhumane' in pursuing the policies they intend to condemn.


[09-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
avoidance is often the least harmful choice, I've noticed.


[09-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
although stealing the phone is kinda weird.


[09-Dec-19 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
orrrr, it's a game won by resolving to fund healthcare (something which would go against his party's wishes but would be wildly popular with the people) and then allowing the party to take the blame instead of him


[09-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
nice try, but no.


[09-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
no u


[09-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
well you're discussing this specific incident.


[09-Dec-19 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
instead of how shitty this guy is in general.


[09-Dec-19 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah he's shitty.


[09-Dec-19 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
he's also behaving entirely correctly here, sans phone stealing because it makes no sense


[09-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/ImpeachDotard45/status/1204128871337144320

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[09-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw the Russian trolls are getting real easy to spot


[09-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
doxxed you :badbacon:


[09-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Nebrony

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[09-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They always accuse you of being a bot, post something else silly at you, then blokk.


[09-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes they post the something else twice, in different variations.


[09-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like each account's being used by multiple people.


[09-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, my pun has been discovered.


[09-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, portmanteau.


[09-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason I noticed it was because you were the only like, and the little nebulon-b frigate icon drew my attention


[09-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
I don't have a twitter account, so I can't be doxxed


[09-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
:badbacon:


[09-Dec-19 10:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie yeah, internet bots and fake accounts are so easy to spot


[09-Dec-19 10:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yesterday i was browsing a thread on Bolivia's recent coup


[09-Dec-19 10:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I spotted some female user claiming she's Bolivian, and shitting on Evo Morales


[09-Dec-19 10:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I look into their profile, and, lookie lookie, the account joined at the end of last month and all its posts have been political


[09-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/473733-impeachment-witness-turley-says-wife-dog-threatened-who-would-shoot-a

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Law professor Jonathan Turley told CBS anchor Norah O'Donnell that "his wife and dog" have received threats after he testified in front of the House Judiciary last week as part of impeachment proceedings.  “I
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[09-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[09-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
> “Who would shoot a Goldendoodle?" Turley asked in response. "Maybe a Shih Tzu, but not a Goldendoodle. I don’t understand where the anger comes from. Although as an academic, the thought that you could talk about James Madison and that would be fighting words is something I haven’t seen outside of a law school.”

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[09-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1203741466461388807

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Joe Heinzen (@urchannelexpert) is posting assassination threats against U.S. Senators.

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[09-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
'@urChannelExpert
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.'


[09-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like Twitter banned him, @Itsthinking


[09-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
I love people like that, I genuinly do.


[09-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Opponent#3498
this is 'kys irl' in LoL team chat, turned up to 13.


[09-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Opponent#3498
simple pleasures of life.


[09-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
I googled his twitter handle and tried to visit it, but it redirected to an error page in russian


[09-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
aaaand now every twitter site is displaying in russian for some reason


[09-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
this is the third time it switched to some random ass language in the past month


[09-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
they come :3


[09-Dec-19 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://anesi.com/fscale.htm

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The F Scale: Final form
The Fscale: test of fascist receptivity at a personality level (T.W. Adorno et al., 1949)


[09-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
these are loaded as fuck tbh


[09-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
>  [2] A person who has bad manners, habits, and breeding can hardly expect to get along with decent people.


[09-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
they included two things that would actually be a good point, then the "breeding" part which completely throws off the entire statement


[09-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol https://twitter.com/DELETETRUMP9/status/1204162847237951488

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Twitter


[09-Dec-19 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow It's a test about fascism. Fascism does not require logical coherency.


[09-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't excuse poor wording and loaded statements though


[09-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
wait, is this thing created by fascists?


[09-Dec-19 11:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
It does. Because it's not whether or not the statement is true. But whether you find truth in it.


[09-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
that would explain a lot of the wording


[09-Dec-19 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
No, it's created by Adorno. Who studied fascists, and evaded fascism


[09-Dec-19 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
And was hated by and himself hated by fascists


[09-Dec-19 11:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm, let's see.


[09-Dec-19 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's part of that group of intelligentsia and political philosophers who confronted and dealt with Fascism personally, and not at a distance. He's on the level of Umberto Eco, who as a kid had to live according to fascism according to Mussolini to survive his child-hood and wrote about it looking back for his essay Ur-Fascism.


[09-Dec-19 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
what do the different personality scores mean?


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's in a table at the bottom.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Conventionalism: Rigid adherence to conventional, middle-class values.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Authoritarian Submission: Submissive, uncritical attitude toward idealized moral authorities of the ingroup.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Authoritarian Aggression: Tendency to be on the lookout for, and to condemn, reject, and punish people who violate conventional values.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Anti-intraception: Opposition to the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Superstition and Stereotypy: The belief in mystical determinants of the individual's fate; the disposition to think in rigid categories.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Power and "Toughness": Preoccupation with the dominance-submission, strong-weak, leader-follower dimension; identification with power figures; overemphasis upon the conventionalized attributes of the ego; exaggerated assertion of strength and toughness.


[09-Dec-19 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Destructiveness and Cynicism: Generalized hostility, vilification of the human.


[09-Dec-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Projectivity: The disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world; the projection outwards of unconscious emotional impulses.


[09-Dec-19 11:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Sex: Exaggerated concern with sexual "goings-on."


[09-Dec-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
> Strange, I read the whole report and it seems to say the opposite, that this was all a deep state conspiracy against Trump in every detail. Also I'm a dumbass Trump supporter who can't read so actually I just watched Fox News and they told me I had read it and it was all lies, except it proves we were right because it says all kinds of things we made up that it said. In all lies. That we believe because they prove us right.


[09-Dec-19 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Oof


[09-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457

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[09-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
I got this


[09-Dec-19 11:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
The only thing that's up-front wrong about all of this is the guy that published the test online actually is a right-wing air-head.


[09-Dec-19 11:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hence the epithets


[09-Dec-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610

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[09-Dec-19 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
kek, same cynicism score


[09-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get how "[9] No sane, normal, decent person could ever think of hurting a close friend or relative." is related to authoritarian submission


[09-Dec-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Might have to kill your neighbor.


[09-Dec-19 11:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or your parent


[09-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-watchdog-pro-trump-text-messages-fbi-agents-2019-12

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'S--- just got real': DOJ watchdog uncovers pro-Trump text message...
"I saw a lot of scared MFers on...[my way to work] this morning," one FBI agent texted another. "Start looking for new jobs fellas. Haha."
https://image.businessinsider.com/5dead9fefd9db2563f752b72?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, yeah, but the way it's worded implies that thinking of hurting others is the action being taken, not the actual hurting


[09-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
like I wouldn't once consider ever hurting my mom, even though I disagree with her and she insults me heavily


[09-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
but if she ever attacked me, I'd defend myself accordingly


[09-Dec-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Kill the rabbit, Jojo


[09-Dec-19 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Kill the rabbit, Jojo. Kill it.

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[09-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it's good meat.


[09-Dec-19 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
at least outside of Australia, cause after all of chem warfare against them I bet they aren't really edible anymore.


[09-Dec-19 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
I'm still not really getting it, maybe it's because it's a right-winger who made this site, but there's a fundamental difference between thinking of hurting people you're close to and having to defend yourself against an attack


[09-Dec-19 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I for one was a bit put off with 'hurting people close or relatives'


[09-Dec-19 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't choose relatives. Those can be righteous cockmongers.


[09-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
you do choose people close to you, so you can typically walk away if you don't like them.


[09-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Crow#5457

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[09-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
huh, I took it again and got a .47 lower score


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
I think it's because I have a tendency to not say stuff in absolutes if I don't have to


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
and shit like this


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
```Most of our social problems would be solved if we could somehow get rid of the immoral, crooked, and feebleminded people.```


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but terms and conditions apply.


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's not a yes nor a no.


[09-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
I went through the questions again and considered if I would ever possibly say this, and a lot of them ended up floating towards "no"


[09-Dec-19 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
even though a lot of them have asterisks that I would say "well in x case it might be true, but not all cases"


[09-Dec-19 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, same.


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
my "I studied psych this semester" perspective is "immoral, crooked, and feebleminded people" is a bullshit categorization


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, see, that's a problem.


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I realized that when I took the test again


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it's way too general.


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
most people with ASPD become CEOs, not thieves


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and too subjective.


[09-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and that, too, although it also counts.


[09-Dec-19 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
(though I'd argue there's not much of a difference :twismug: )

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[09-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
> [15] Most of our social problems would be solved if we could somehow get rid of the immoral, crooked, and feebleminded people.


[09-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
the first time I went through the test I put disagree somewhat


[09-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
the second time I put disagree strongly because I realized it was talking about some arbitrary definition of "immoral, crooked, and feebleminded" and wasn't really objectively defined at all


[09-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. That's the problem with this question.


[09-Dec-19 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Mark Fuckerberg is immoral and crooked


[09-Dec-19 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't mean I think he should die


[10-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, I also realized that by "get rid of", it meant "kill"


[10-Dec-19 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
the first time I went through, I thought it was like "put in prison"


[10-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498

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[10-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, I was thinking about current-day Ukraine in some questions, rather than '46 US


[10-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Opponent#3498
we DO need a leader that doesn't absolutely suck and is bankrolled by US, Russia or local oligarchs.


[10-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
(kinda had that with Poroshenko althoug he himself was an oligarch, didn't do that bad of a job all things considered)


[10-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
so it could probably go lower than this in abstract.


[10-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
```Wars and social troubles may someday be ended by an earthquake or flood that will destroy the whole world.```


[10-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
not a flood, but NBC is still on the table.


[10-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
one button away from the end.


[10-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
although in '46 it was not as bad.


[10-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I think this could stand to be updated, overall.


[10-Dec-19 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I did the thing too

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[10-Dec-19 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/8YOumAl.png

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[10-Dec-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interesting, it's my Destructiveness and Cynicism that's unusual for people here, way lower than everyone else but Aaron.


[10-Dec-19 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm incredibly cynical, but I guess the questions that measure it are mostly about generalized suspicion, too abstract, and too comparative about history.


[10-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I tend to think humans havn't really gotten worse over time and in large groups often aren't as shitty etc.


[10-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
> [18] Nowadays more and more people are prying into matters that should remain personal and private.


[10-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't think I can see any way that disagreeing with this is a bad thing, conservative busybodies are trying to get into people's businesses


[10-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one of the few I agreed with.


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
As much as the question is trying to imply to not shine a light on corruption and rape and such


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the simple fact is conservatives are more than happy to shine lights on their opponents and break the rules


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WTF is with the astrology question tho


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Its has the highest D & C value


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe that's our main disagreement.


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people bought into astrology a lot more in the 40's or something


[10-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is the scale exactly?


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astrology used to be an actual thing people used.


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is what scale?


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This?


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
scroll down for scale details


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just measures how much you agree with fascist statements.


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
higher means more?


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's measing 1-5 on agreement.


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
yes, higher number = more fascist


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
err, 1-6


[10-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis would score like 5.75 on this sort of thing.


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
and details on the different scoring sections are below too


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're below 3, you're not Trump's base.


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So I'm like a fascist in cynicism?


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You villify humans in the abstract.


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For thinking war is inevitable to human nature?


[10-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_pinker_the_surprising_decline_in_violence?language=en

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The surprising decline in violence
Steven Pinker charts the decline of violence from Biblical times to the present, and argues that, though it may seem illogical and even obscene, given Iraq and Darfur, we are living in the most peaceful time in our species' existence.
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[10-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe this goes with my "people are just waiting for the right time to unleash, a lot of civility is a mere cover" thing


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The super tl;dw of this is like


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Today we look at genocide as vile


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In our children's media, executions are...almost never spoken of.


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think the ancient Greeks would say about the Holocaust?


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plato would grill you for even questioning the right of a country to do it.


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think they would conceive of it, or would think it is a waste of resources?


[10-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aristotle would laff you out of the room.


[10-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[10-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ancient Greeks would put a brikk on trial


[10-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
for falling off a roof and hitting someone in the head causing their death


[10-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and banish it from Athens.


[10-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would suffocate animals to death to appease the gods.


[10-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Spartans had 90% of their population in slavery


[10-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think the ancient Greeks would think of the Holocaust given the above, Its?


[10-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Necessary to fight a war?


[10-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Necessary to unite the people, would probably be more their take.


[10-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd say Hitler was right.


[10-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would say that he could only keep his fragile country together by burning undesirables.


[10-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of the Nuremburg trials would offend them.


[10-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would question what right you hav to question the laws and practices of your defeated enemy.


[10-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why you would not just execute them *for being your enemy*, but conditionally on what they did while ruling.


[10-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize, as much as people still harbor hatred


[10-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
we are so much less prone to violence towards others


[10-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something about modern society makes people really, really, really unusually reluctant to kill each other.


[10-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is a rebuke of this pillar of modern society.


[10-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is about saying that the violence and selfishness of the past is the one true way and that we are fools for following a new path.


[10-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know much about Caesar, @Itsthinking?


[10-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, why he led a revolt against Rome's leadership that succeeded?


[10-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not particularly


[10-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the super-abridged version is that he was Trump


[10-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
except that like


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
he left for Guam to run it, still immune to prosecution


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he was a genius


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then him and the guy in charge of...let's say Puerto Rico, they both were threatening to kill each other and take over


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he said WELP TIME FOR YOU TO DIE


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, in the Roman Empire


[10-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
anyone in political office couldn't be imprisoned.


[10-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were above the law until they were out of office.


[10-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could however be jailed for crimes committed while in office, after leaving the office.


[10-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar had won a campaign in Gaul


[10-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
what did he do?


[10-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He killed a quarter of everyone that lived there.


[10-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they were "allies" of Rome, letting Roman soldiers march their woods and build forts and use them to stage invasions of England.


[10-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for some reason they saw this as an "occupation"


[10-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And wanted this silly thing called "sovereignty"


[10-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is now France btw


[10-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine Italy just put a million troops in France


[10-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and never ever let them leave.


[10-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, many burned cities and starved masses and horribly cavalry fights later, inevitably Caesar had Vercingetorix in chains and was due for a triumph.


[10-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
However...Caesar had been involved in some shit before to get his position.


[10-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(he might've possibly been behind a huge group that tried to assassinate rival senators)


[10-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also was very briefly Consul, basically President.


[10-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And had been denied a past Triumph.


[10-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways so Caesar just plain took his army that had slain the Gauls and went to Rome...


[10-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was all he could do


[10-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
he had a buddy called Pompey who was in charge of basically Spain, but Pompey was looking to out Caesar to get himself into power.


[10-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both of them told the other to resign first.


[10-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate couldn't really do ANYTHING because everyone was bribed


[10-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and there were absolute vetos.


[10-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a giant mess.


[10-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even with Caesar marching on Rome, the city predicated on how you stop being a general when you enter it


[10-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Senate couldn't figure out what to do


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does sound like a mess.


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pompey had ideas, but like, Caesar's people were still in the Senate


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of them LED AN ARMY WHILE STILL IN OFFICE AS TRIBUNE OF THE PLEBS


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
An army AGAINST THE STATE


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not even supposed to command a single troop while in office


[10-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody remembered to revoke his office.


[10-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would later rule while Caesar was away in North Africa hunting down the last of Pompey's supporters.


[10-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and very incompetently rule, at that)


[10-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what happened when Pompey was dead, and Caesar was in Egypt asking why the hell they killed him?


[10-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the Egyptians went straight from "hey we killed him for you" to "oh yeah you're technically invading us right now, I guess, the riot outside is uh...totally not our response. Also, what do you mean there's a treaty we're not following?"


[10-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
MONTHS of urban warfare with heavily outnumbered Romans surrounding the Egyptian king surrounded themselves by the Egyptian army went by.


[10-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On another note: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/473702-chris-wallace-ig-report-headline-is-it-didnt-find-the-things-that-bill-barr

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Fox's Chris Wallace: IG report headline is 'It didn't find the thi...
"Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace said the headline on the highly anticipated report released Monday by the Justice Department's inspector general (IG) will be that it "didn't find the things that Bill Barr and Donald Trump alleged" rega
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[10-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I knew it would go nowhere.


[10-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Cleopatra just kinda showed up one day and soon enuff Caesar and here were killing her brother and his troops and having sex on a boat for months.


[10-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the North Africa shit happened.


[10-Dec-19 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie going on a history tirade


[10-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senator that took over when Pompey died cut open his own belly on hearing of losing the battle.


[10-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then a surgeon stitched him up


[10-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he tore out the stitches to make sure he died this time


[10-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Caesar returned to THREE triumphs, one for killing Gauls, one for giving up Cyprus as thanks for the great boat sex, and one for making a fellow Roman tear out his own guts


[10-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now @Itsthinking, what do you think happens at the end of a Roman triumph?


[10-Dec-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll giv you a hint: Vercingetorix and Cleopatra's younger sister didn't spend time in Roman prisons so they could be released to pursue careers in art.


[10-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes, none of the three things Caesar did qualify for a triumph.


[10-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Egyptian one in fact is literally the exact opposite, you're supposed to CONQUER territory for a triumph, not GIV IT AWAY.


[10-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roman politics at this time were nothing but bribery and murder.


[10-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, at the end of the Roman Triumph


[10-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
you go up to the temple of Zeus


[10-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
with your captives, ideally including an enemy monarch


[10-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and strangle them to death before the gods


[10-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romans wanted Cleopatra's sister spared btw...or at least that's what history says (having a rival's heir as an asset's a good idea...Cleopatra was mad they didn't kill her sister)


[10-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point is, politics of the time...a thousand people dead from them in a month was a good month.


[10-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a bad month the capital was literally on fire.


[10-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The senate building got burned down around that time once.


[10-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a battle that ended with both sides deciding that killing fellow Romans was shitty. After about 10,000 died.


[10-Dec-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was unusually bloodless etc.


[10-Dec-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking imagine if something on the scale of 9/11 happened monthly because of Democrats and Republicans fighting.


[10-Dec-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if the Civil War was seen as a "relatively small one"


[10-Dec-19 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, not "the" civil war, just "that particular civil war"


[10-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn


[10-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The campaign in Gaul by Caesar killed a few million people btw, in 10 years.


[10-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, there were perhaps up to 300 million total people in the world.


[10-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coincidentally about the population of the US today, minus some.


[10-Dec-19 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if the US was a world and California went into Washington and killed twice the population of Seattle in a decade.


[10-Dec-19 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The numbers are all similar.


[10-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, in the battle where the remnants of Pompey's forces finally lost


[10-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar's troops went up against fellow Romans with trained battle elephants


[10-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The elephants ran away in terror and none of the people with them survived.


[10-Dec-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, Caesar passed out and was having seizures.


[10-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without him on the battlefield, his troops couldn't be contained.


[10-Dec-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, troops of the time that made it thru a few battles were genocidal killing machines.


[10-Dec-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Roman looking at how we think about war crimes by soldiers today would be appalled.


[10-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did worse shit every single day in Roman camps in enemy territory.


[10-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abu Ghraib would've been seen as a downright religious experience to them.


[10-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern society and Roman society are worlds apart.


[10-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
you're way too optimistic about modern people, I feel.


[10-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess you take the 'we're better than this' seriously.


[10-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're ignoring the argument again.


[10-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that there is such a ridiculous gulf between the numbers of past conflicts and present ones.


[10-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something has changed.


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav over 20x the people, but like 2000x less conflict.


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
industrialisation happened.


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why is industrialization making us less violent?


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
if you want to go to war, it's much larger than going somewhere and killing a bunch of people in melee.


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do we not kill each other en masse anymore, when our weapons are more powerful?


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
it's also more costly for the economy.


[10-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
at least for the agressor it is.


[10-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then why are murder rates down?


[10-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just war deaths.


[10-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are people not rioting?


[10-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are the riots that do happen few and far between?


[10-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is the rate of murder on a decline that has lasted according to documents since basically documents were invented?


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
well, as far as riots go, people realised with time it's largely pointless. Also, not many are driven to desperation enough that they literally don't care.


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does industrialization do to cause this?


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, but do you disagree with these being aspects of society?


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
peasant riot was never about 'better conditions'. It was about 'kill everyone because nothing matters anymore'.


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is something about the construction of modern society must be responsible for the much lower deaths.


[10-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is making people care.


[10-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't particularly matter what.


[10-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, even the political violence we hav is reduced in scope.


[10-Dec-19 02:07 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sean-bean-endorses-jeremy-corbyn-for-giving-the-working-class-a-voice-a6719266.html

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Sean Bean explains why he is backing Jeremy Corbyn
The Game of Thrones actor is still 'old Labour at heart'
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[10-Dec-19 02:07 AM] ononim#8141
ayyyy 🐺


[10-Dec-19 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0ddd1a80dc2dd8c2ffc6f777c8b01415

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Report: US misled public on progress in Afghanistan war
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. government across three White House administrations misled the public about failures in the Afghanistan war, often suggesting success where it didn't exist, according to...
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[10-Dec-19 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Dec-19 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[10-Dec-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's a yikes from me


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Yes or no


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
*ahem* cherry picking. thats not the only variable at play


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
yes, but its a loaded question


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
How is that cherry picking


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
No its not


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
there are multiple variables at play


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
No there aren't


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
That's literally the entire line


[10-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Like


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
I can point at it


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Dance on it


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
I can sleep on the fucking thing is so bold and obvious


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
And still


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
physical and sexual maturity
external circumstances
possible consequences later both mentally and societally
and whether or not they have the capacities to want,  and enjoy sex.


[10-Dec-19 06:44 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
well then its a fudnamental disagreement


[10-Dec-19 06:45 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
based in ableism. anyone whos of lower cognition than you cant consent and can only have sex with beings of similar cognition. that sir is segregation based on ability or lack thereof


[10-Dec-19 06:45 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
theres nothing to be said


[10-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
Okay, do you understand how a fuck ton of people don't care about the variables 
That's what I mean with the line
Because literally nothing else fucking matters 
That's the God damn drawn line with the size of a bad dragon sized brush 
That a lot of people don't like the idea of fucking beings with lower cognitive ability and in fact consider it inmoral


[10-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
That's the entire point


[10-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
> based in ableism. anyone whos of lower cognition than you cant consent and can only have sex with beings of similar cognition. that sir is segregation based on ability or lack thereof


[10-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Quienado'sado'ido'az'cho'verse#1560
And you are 100% right


[10-Dec-19 06:50 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
A fuck ton of people do though, a fuck ton of people can differentiate between a dog and a kid.


[10-Dec-19 06:50 AM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
And morality is subjecyive, by grounding it wat you consider the majority you undermine both arguments validity outside of our subjective senses of morality


[10-Dec-19 07:30 AM] jlun2#8758
Not sure if posted before but  https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/china-computer-ban-google-microsoft-intel-huawei-a9239146.html

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China orders all foreign-made computers to be removed from state o...
Google, Intel and Microsoft all caught up in ban
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[10-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maaan.


[10-Dec-19 08:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
good. Google and Microsoft don't need that corruptive Chinese money.


[10-Dec-19 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
google? The people who supported their policy, if a bit less than Apple did?


[10-Dec-19 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
oh well. I don't presume to understand or truly care.


[10-Dec-19 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
```Sarah Kreps, professor of government and international relations at Cornell University said the interviews reveal the enormous disconnect between what civilian and military leaders knew about the war and what the public knew, particularly about its costs.```


[10-Dec-19 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it's glaringly obvious how much all those shiny toys cost to the people outside of US, but not inside it, what?


[10-Dec-19 10:31 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess it gets more obvious when you think of 'well why can't we have what they have? Ooooooh never mind, _that's why_.'


[10-Dec-19 10:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/documents-database/


[10-Dec-19 10:39 AM] Opponent#3498
```The interviews make clear that officials issued rosy pronouncements they knew to be false and hid unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable.```


[10-Dec-19 10:40 AM] Opponent#3498
again, pretty obvious from outside US. In fact, nobody expected US to achive anything there, except maybe create future enemies to uphold the peace against, and at some point just pull out, declaring victory.


[10-Dec-19 10:43 AM] ononim#8141
https://boingboing.net/2019/12/09/leeched.html

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The blood of poor Americans is now a leading export, bigger than c...
America is one of the only developed countries in the world that pays people to donate blood, much of it sold abroad (70% of the world’s plasma is of US origin), and as commercial blood donat…
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[10-Dec-19 10:43 AM] ononim#8141
the fuck


[10-Dec-19 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/28/boris-johnson-novel-2004-seventy-two-virgins-racist-misogynistic-homophobic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Boris Johnson’s resurfaced novel contains horrific ‘racist, mi...
A novel written by Boris Johnson in 2004 is receiving fresh condemnation as a new Twitter account is bringing excerpts back into the spotlight.
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[10-Dec-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Dec-19 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
aka an average Tuesday.


[10-Dec-19 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m surprised boris johnson isn;t on his roof yelling obscenitys and shittign down the chimney


[10-Dec-19 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/hong-kong-cabinet-reshuffle-not-an-immediate-task-lam-says-idUSKBN1YE06W?il=0

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Hong Kong cabinet reshuffle not an 'immediate task', Lam says
A reshuffle of Hong Kong's cabinet is not an "immediate task", th...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191210&t=2&i=1462263626&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB903F


[10-Dec-19 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Dec-19 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
peak boomer


[10-Dec-19 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok boomer


[10-Dec-19 03:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"Bang my wife an animal" Bang my wife, an animal or bang my wife like an animal?


[10-Dec-19 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has a dog, he put a wig on it, it;s his wife


[10-Dec-19 03:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why not both?


[10-Dec-19 04:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://academeblog.org/2019/12/09/tfw-your-former-colleague-turns-out-to-be-a-nazi/?fbclid=IwAR1yltphGsBqXEv65xtth-UsKU6iZI7J6fmu17mW_a_MkC3AOOQG52-YNJo

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TFW Your Former Colleague Turns Out to Be a Nazi
BY ANTHONY ALESSANDRINI Not long after the election of Donald Trump, I shared a message in support of the right of undocumented students to pursue their education at City University of New York (CU…
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[10-Dec-19 04:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"What do you mean, you don't want to see this pile of books burned while we do a nazi salute and chant creepy mantras? Want a safe space, snowflake?"


[10-Dec-19 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EJ_Nunya/status/1195382169536888833

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@keithlowell $40 gorcery list
20 lbs chicken at 99c/lb 
2lbs rice at 89c/lb
5 bags frozen veg at $2/bag
10lb bag of potatoes at $3/bag
=$35 + tax
Twitter


[10-Dec-19 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
I want to know where the fuck they live that chicken is 99 cents per pound


[10-Dec-19 04:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Washington


[10-Dec-19 04:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently the state


[10-Dec-19 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[10-Dec-19 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Presumably some comfy gentrified neighborhood


[10-Dec-19 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Price tags change depending on where you are sometimes


[10-Dec-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shit needs universal pricing


[10-Dec-19 04:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And not mentioning community produce...


[10-Dec-19 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[10-Dec-19 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A little challenge for y'all


[10-Dec-19 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mine would be "everyone should work together to guarantee happiness and dignity to everyone else"


[10-Dec-19 04:42 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Holy shit is this channel not talking about the articles of impeachment?


[10-Dec-19 04:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's  new?


[10-Dec-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine would be "people should be paid a wage they can live off of and should have the ability to do as they need or please minus severe criminal activity"


[10-Dec-19 04:44 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
With impeachment? That it's happening. Official charges and all.


[10-Dec-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it's exciting, but uhhh... sometimes we can't focus on one thing for too long, y'know :/


[10-Dec-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the congress is pushing the impeachment but the house is the finalizer


[10-Dec-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We all ADHD gang here :dab:


[10-Dec-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d4266ab9cf1179ab8edd191bd7ecf702

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Pelosi announces agreement on North American trade pact
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday announced agreement on a modified North American trade pact, handing President Donald Trump a major Capitol Hill win on the very same day...
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[10-Dec-19 04:48 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I didn't see any talk about it though


[10-Dec-19 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it was a pretty foregone conclusion, trump fucked up, and as much stalling as congressional republicans have been doing, their defense fell the fuck appart


[10-Dec-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their defense was basically the see no evil monkey metaphor


[10-Dec-19 04:50 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The question now is what happens in the Senate, which of course will be nothing.


[10-Dec-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that depends on a lot of things considering unlike congressmen who have a minority, republicans have a majority and would like to keep it that way. To go against th eimpeachment would murder the re-electability for a lot of people


[10-Dec-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s either side with trump and commit political suicide, or go against trump to save themselves


[10-Dec-19 04:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mcconnell-will-sink-trump-like-a-3-foot-putt-if-he-decides-its-the-only-way-to-keep-the-senate-ex-prosecutor/?utm_source=push_notifications

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McConnell will sink Trump ‘like a 3-foot putt’ if he decides i...
Even though Democrats took great pains to make the impeachment articles as narrowly focused and provable as possible, Republicans in the Senate are broadly expected to still march as one to acquit President Donald Trump when it goes to trial. But former federal prosecutor Gle...
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[10-Dec-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
loyalty is not a thing in the republican party, their foundation right now is based upon circumstantial blackmail


[10-Dec-19 04:54 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Their base is still pro-Trump, it's suicide to go with impeachment unless he is removed from office.


[10-Dec-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of thme are standing behind eachother with knives to eachother;s backs


[10-Dec-19 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll be pro trump until fox news decides trump is a lost cause thne they'll switch on his ass immediatly


[10-Dec-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it happened with the tea party, it'll happen with the maga


[10-Dec-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once they find their next confidently speaking outlet of hatred they'll move on


[10-Dec-19 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b0ad87fec8f2f3c390f31e53a13dd3a4

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Arms control on tap for Trump, Pompeo's meeting with Lavrov
WASHINGTON (AP) — Arms control, Ukraine and Syria are headlining President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's meetings Tuesday with Russia's foreign minister, who is making his...
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[10-Dec-19 06:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/bill-barr-attacks-fbi-for-bad-faith-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-bonkers-interview/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Bill Barr attacks FBI for ‘bad faith’ probe of Trump campaign ...
Attorney General Bill Barr attacked the FBI for investigating the Trump campaign’s multiple contacts with Russian agents during the 2016 presidential campaign as being a “bad faith” probe. In an interview with NBC News, Barr outlined why he disagreed with Inspector Gene...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/william-barr.jpg


[10-Dec-19 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You didnt find the democrat burning conclusion i wanted you to! How dare you be honest you fucking traitors!"


[10-Dec-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/simV1ZXFsxI

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The Onion
https://youtu.be/simV1ZXFsxI
Tampa Bay Gay Prostitutes Gearing Up For Flood Of Closeted Republicans
Tampa Bay gay sex workers say they plan to rake in the cash sucking off secretly gay Republican politicians during the Republican National Convention. Subscr...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/simV1ZXFsxI/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Dec-19 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
@Oatsy found you in the comments


[10-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Oatsy#4039
"Get out of here stalker"


[10-Dec-19 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
cute pic though.


[10-Dec-19 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Oatsy


[10-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Oatsy#4039
Crow was never heard from again


[10-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[10-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Oatsy#4039
it said you were typing for a hot minute


[10-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
I never typed anything


[10-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
I guess it must've been bugging out or something


[10-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
last thing I typed was something I forgot to post like an hour ago


[10-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
basically, it seemed like that thing I posted about budgeting a $40 grocery list to feed a family for a week made up price per pound numbers to fit it all within $40 instead of finding real life numbers to use


[10-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
@GenericArchangel why would we dig in with the articles? The whole point of this channel is to debate what's contested and what politicians will do, the articles themselves are just broad concepts.


[10-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
We've been talking about how Republicans will vote and what things Trump should be impeached for for like 2 years.


[10-Dec-19 08:17 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Yeah but this is a critical milestone


[10-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it's nothing really new.


[10-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like hearing that S7 was announced, during S5


[10-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The articles are "abuse of power" and "obstruction of congress"


[10-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
HE DID THOSE THINGS THE FIRST MONTH HE WAS IN OFFICE


[10-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like fukk


[10-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's no substance here


[10-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Oatsy#4039
lol


[10-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a declaration the sky is "blue", and a second one that it "has white things in it"


[10-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that's plainly obvious to fukking everyone with a brain and eyes.


[10-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Opponent#3498
nebbie gets angery >.<


[10-Dec-19 08:22 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
See, but they have proof that not even delusional Fox News anchors can refute, backed up by a guy with a Purple Heart. After the less than spectacular Mueller Report, I can see why they waited so long.


[10-Dec-19 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX and the GOP could try to defend Trump from literally anything at this point


[10-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/04/china-diplomacy-hong-kong-protests-human-rights-democracy-italy-united-states/

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James Palmer
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/04/china-diplomacy-hong-kong-protests-human-rights-democracy-italy-united-states/
Chinese Diplomacy Takes an Aggressive Turn
As foreign governments back Hong Kong’s protesters, China’s diplomats are pushing back.
https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/china-beijing-diplomacy-GettyImages-1185111485.jpg


[10-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.businessinsider.com/suspected-terrorist-in-syria-eliminated-with-ninja-missile-2019-12

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The US is suspected of killing a terrorist in Syria with the 'Ninj...
The minivan, particularly the driver's side, was shredded by an odd munition that didn't explode but apparently killed its passengers with blades.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5de7dcfafd9db229b6104f1c?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Dec-19 09:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/tory-candidate-says-increase-in-food-bank-use-is-because-they-give-stuff-away-1-6417258?jwsource=cl

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WATCH: Tory says increased food bank usage is because they 'give s...
A Conservative candidate has come under fire after suggesting the increase in food bank usage over the last nine years is because 'they give stuff away'.
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[10-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/opinion/trade-trump-china.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/opinion/trade-trump-china.html
Opinion | Is It Possible Trump Is on the Right Track With China?
Paul Krugman responds to reader questions about the lasting effects of Trump’s trade wars.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/05/opinion/05krugman1/05krugman1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-Dec-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
broken clock is right twice a day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[10-Dec-19 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://rocket.foal.party/file-upload/JT4hWinEAW9Kf39mf/IMG_9887.jpeg

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[10-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```why Chinese students top the new global education rankings```


[10-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
the ones Chinese government-funded 'independant' organisations has instituted?


[10-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
this is just kek from the outset.


[10-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda like the most scientific country in the world is India.


[10-Dec-19 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, sure. It just means your metrics fucking suck and they learned how to abuse it (split the material into tiny little pieces and reference everyone and their dog to bloat the numbers)


[10-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
```The influential Australian political writer Yang Hengjun was arrested by security forces earlier this year while in transit through China. ```


[10-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
and Darwin's award of the year goes to...


[10-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
...well no, the metrics are reasonable, it's just that they depend on good faith and quality control, and both are unpopular and unprofitable.


[10-Dec-19 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not a surprise to me that a country with a lot of people would have a lot of them who are intelligent


[10-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yyyeah unfortunately, it's the same as in tech sector there.


[10-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a lot of them. They're willing to work for cheap. That's all they got going for them.


[10-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Opponent#3498
India is memetic in freelance coding industry as representing the 'cheapest' example of 'you get what you pay for'.


[10-Dec-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
they aren't the cheapest


[10-Dec-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
programming rates in india are finally rising


[10-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it used to be this way. Haven't payed attention last couple years.


[10-Dec-19 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
the philippines are the cheapest


[10-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/473959-trump-campaign-tweets-video-of-trump-as-avengers-villain-thanos

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Trump campaign tweets video of Trump as 'Avengers' villain Thanos
President Trump’s campaign tweeted a doctored clip of the president as Thanos, the villain in the films “Avengers: Infinity War” and “Avengers: Endgame” Tuesday afternoon.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_112619gn7_lead.jpg


[10-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't this the scene right before Thanos is defeated


[10-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[10-Dec-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also that "meme" implies he just murdered a bunch of people


[10-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pfff


[10-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s a twofer of terrible


[10-Dec-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically it;s 3 awful implications


[10-Dec-19 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the meme implies he wants to kill half the country


[10-Dec-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/xge9ey81st341.jpg

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[10-Dec-19 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They fired the people that reported it I bet


[10-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how it usually works.


[10-Dec-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can't be a crime syndicate with honest people in your ranks


[10-Dec-19 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, you can, and have them act as a front in ignorance.


[10-Dec-19 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
tricky, but actually pretty legit.


[10-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the ignorance bit fell through tho.


[11-Dec-19 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Dec-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-10/2019-marked-by-global-unrest-bloody-2020/11781720

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-10/2019-marked-by-global-unrest-bloody-2020/11781720
This year was marked by global unrest — and 2020 is likely to be...
This year may well go down as the most disrupted year in global politics since the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989. The bad news is that the sailing doesn't look any smoother next year.
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[11-Dec-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/zqtoffI.png

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[11-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
West Europe's dream right there.


[11-Dec-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>implying china isn't already like this


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>implying western europe is a monolithic cultural state


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
see, the thing with China is, outside of their hardcore capitalism play, they're kinda irrelevant for the rest of the world I'd say.


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
they expand, and that's a big problem.


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's the only one.


[11-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure them making large parts of Southeast Asia and Africa permanently indebted to them is just in our imaginations.


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Why are we talking about China as a dictatorship? China is a democracy, for sure. The PRC, on the other hand...


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
Teaspoon, they share some cultural values.


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
like pocket knife permits.


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
UK The land of the dream


[11-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can carry a machete with me to work here


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
where is 'here'?


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Germany


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
give it time.


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"give it time" pfft


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lamest thing I've read here all day


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
>calling Germany autocratic
Boi if there's anywhere in Europe that will never be that way ever it's Germany, they learned after last time


[11-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
*shrug*


[11-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
they learned it's a path to ruin to try and fight the world. I doubt anyone except US and China will try that any time soon.


[11-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
as far as their own population is concerned though... Nah.


[11-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice to see you're such an expert on the country I live in


[11-Dec-19 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
well I know you guys have amazing censoring system.


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
with games specifically having a 'german' version


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol, "amazing"


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
and censoring shit like our Maydan circa 2014


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
I assume you mean the de-Nazification laws? Yeah I WONDER WHY THAT MIGHT BE A THING IN GERMANY


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing to do with nazis.


[11-Dec-19 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can buy any game, it just can't be advertised in stores


[11-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the current "limit" is practically unknown, there's no game out there currently censored in germany


[11-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Blood, guts, nazis, all's good these days


[11-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now, Australia...


[11-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, for some inane reason it actually got better in last couple years. But I'm told it's a very recent development.


[11-Dec-19 01:53 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
It's almost like a modern democracy adjusted it's laws to match what the population currently wants


[11-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm honestly confused as to why, since EU is mostly 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' allllll over.


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/473995-pavlich-impeachment-does-russias-bidding

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Pavlich: Impeachment does Russia's bidding
It’s official. Partisan Democrats in Washington, led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (Calif.) and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), have filed articles of impeachment against President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schiffadam_121019gn2_lead.jpg


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That is old. The nazi stuff and replacing characters with green blood or making them robots is not a thing anymore. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45142651

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45142651
Germany lifts ban on video game swastikas
After decades of German video games censoring Nazi bad guys, the rules have changed.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/A85D/production/_102910134_wolfenstein_nazis.jpg


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
One classic tactic of fascism is projection, Its.


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"In other words, the goal of the Russians was to pit Americans against each other and to further stir political unrest in the United States. The constant “resistance” to President Trump and the continued efforts to delegitimize his election does just that."


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
last year, right.


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do these people just hate Pence or something?


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Removal would put him in office


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Everyone hates Pence


[11-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, Pence can't win reelection.


[11-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically Biden.


[11-Dec-19 01:55 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
But worse


[11-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine gay-lynching Biden vs. dying Biden.


[11-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody, not even Republicans, wants that election contest.


[11-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pence is a sculpture made of margerine


[11-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Disgusting, but not even the real deal


[11-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also is firefox discord webclient shit for anyone else


[11-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking thing freezes every 5 seconds for 3 seconds


[11-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes typing FUN


[11-Dec-19 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
btw Tea, when I said 'amazing' I didn't mean good. I meant it's amazing someone came up with that and thought it was a good idea. Kinda like France and their DNA tests story, for example.


[11-Dec-19 02:01 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
What's the issue you took with the system, exactly?


[11-Dec-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i remember the election of 2020: Religious nut job biden vs "I like kid;s bouncing on my lap" biden


[11-Dec-19 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
the thought process behind it. The fact that it was lackluster in implementation nonwithstanding.


[11-Dec-19 02:03 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
So... rules regarding violence and similar content in video games is bad?


[11-Dec-19 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you honestly surprised that a country that had gone through being the artificers of WW2 and the holocaust would be antsy about fictional dipictions of violence and nazism?


[11-Dec-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
symbols are fine. Symbols clearly still hold power, even now.


[11-Dec-19 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
but shit like green blood and robotic enemies...


[11-Dec-19 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Two generations were raised under the full hearted belief that they were worst people on the planet and only one rally away from going rotten again


[11-Dec-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder why they wouldnt want to depict nazis as real people...


[11-Dec-19 02:05 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Yeah, violence. Who got firebombed into oblivion? Who lost everything to two invasions? Who lost even more to their own hands?


[11-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I know the censorship nonsense they had was stupid


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) it was even things entirely unrelated to nazism or otherwise. HL1 and it's robots instead of marines, for example.


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But this was a country that was mentally scared into believing, fully believing, that they were devils by nature


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess it did the intended job, turning into pure comedy, but it _looks_ very dumb.


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe I'm wrong and it doesn't matter how it looks.


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
what matters is it worked.


[11-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe.


[11-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that literally anything could set them off again into full "KILL THEM ALL" mode


[11-Dec-19 02:08 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
I assume you're American- just a guess. Culturally, we didn't suffer from World War II like *literally everyone else.* We didn't have to rebuild our cities, or lose millions driving out invaders, or spend years hiding underground from bombing raids. World War II fucked up the world, so attitudes about all war-related stuff is very different.


[11-Dec-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Opponent is Ukranian


[11-Dec-19 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Ukrainian.


[11-Dec-19 02:09 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Interesting. So you should understand exactly what I'm talking about.


[11-Dec-19 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ukraine weren't the definite ultraclear literally baby-killing bad guys of WW2


[11-Dec-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for awhile depictions of blood were fairly censored all over the world


[11-Dec-19 02:10 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
I'm referring to the war as a whole, but yes, of course.


[11-Dec-19 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other forms of violence as well


[11-Dec-19 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
economically, yes, culturally... Well the war didn't define us, despite the losses. It kinda did in terms of 'blood price for victory', 'victory of the people over the horrors of fascism', etc. But that wasn't really ever THE focal point.


[11-Dec-19 02:12 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Point is: the US were the "heroes" of the war who had their great triumph, but everyone else lost a hell of a lot. Even if the culture is heroic, the losses are part of that.


[11-Dec-19 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know what was, if anything, really. Outside of USSR umbrella.


[11-Dec-19 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm going to use an example not WW2 related for a moment: After 9/11 pretty much everything with the word towers and depiction of towers and bombs, and explosions was censored for awhile because fucking christ, that shit was traumatic. It was stupid but it was understandable.


[11-Dec-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon 
> Also is firefox discord webclient shit for anyone else


[11-Dec-19 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yes it's shitting the bed for me too


[11-Dec-19 02:15 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Exactly! Same thing. And I might not even call it stupid, it's a national trauma, the response is reasonable.


[11-Dec-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
episodes of shows got pulled for having the word tower in the title


[11-Dec-19 02:15 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Okay that is dumb. But also an extreme example.


[11-Dec-19 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
well, US is sensitive about it's symbols in general.


[11-Dec-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everytime a really bad earthquake or tsunami happen in japan, they pull episodes all over the place depicting such things


[11-Dec-19 02:17 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_trauma

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National trauma is a concept in psychology and social psychology. A national trauma is one in which the effects of a trauma apply generally to the members of a collective group such as a country or other well-defined group of people. Trauma is an injury that has the potential...


[11-Dec-19 02:17 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Relevant.


[11-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
and that one's kinda silly, because it's a thing that will keep happening. Instead of doing that, maybe focus on things like survival training for high risk zones or something.


[11-Dec-19 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a pokemon using the move earth quaKE has gotten at least 3 episodes so far, including one very plot relevant episode in blakc and white


[11-Dec-19 02:18 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Not how Japan's geography works, but sure, let's ignore the point that it's a traumatic event on a massive scale


[11-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
you mean it's entirety is a high risk zone? Yeah, probably.


[11-Dec-19 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Today Germany is a pretty cool place and is one of the places I would consider running to if things go the way they seem to be going over here after Brexit...

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[11-Dec-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m american and would love to settle in ireland, scotland, or germany


[11-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah, this national traumatic event thing... Can't say I understand.


[11-Dec-19 02:20 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
So you know what PTSD is, right?


[11-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
I've read up on it, yeah


[11-Dec-19 02:21 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
It's that, on the collective, national conscious. So, all Japanese people experience the trauma of this tsunami.


[11-Dec-19 02:22 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
The extent of the trauma varies. So, the 70s oil crises are a minor trauma, but things like the Second World War are big fucking deals.


[11-Dec-19 02:23 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
In fact, that Wikipedia article even names Chernobyl. How does talking about Chernobyl make you feel?


[11-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like it's Russia's fault :^)


[11-Dec-19 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
not really, actually. USSR did build a pretty good power plant. They _wanted_ it to succeed, as a model for what 'new age socialism' or whatever can achive.


[11-Dec-19 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and then mismanaged it to fuck


[11-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[11-Dec-19 02:25 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
None of this is the point >:V


[11-Dec-19 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
:reppy:


[11-Dec-19 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
as for how it makes me feel, well, neutral I suppose? It's a thing that happened, its effects on current-day population are... unclear but they're definitely still there, despite most of Ukraine being unhit. Other than that, ehh.


[11-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I've been to Prypiat, was a pretty cool experience, once on an official tour and once with a local expert guide. Saw people actively logging in the exclusion zone, profit comes before all other considerations, but we do live under capitalism, not much to do about it.


[11-Dec-19 02:28 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
And that's a minor one. You still feel it, decades later, in places unhit. A *minor* national trauma.


[11-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if there were a decent number of Ukranians that thought the meltdown was a good thing, and it should be done again, in greater scale


[11-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
well, not mental health.


[11-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
physical health. Affecting birth rates and such.


[11-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a lot of them were in politics and studying related degrees and publishing articles about how great the nuclear disaster was


[11-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
mentally it's w/e. I'm sure people who used to live in Prypiat and their children think differently because they were directly affected, but it's not really nation-wide.


[11-Dec-19 02:30 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Imagine that the meltdown happening caused the entire country to be razed by foreign armies, killing a large chunk of the populace.


[11-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a poor analogy Tea. Unintended effect vs a very much intended effect.


[11-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
similar in mismanagement angle though...


[11-Dec-19 02:32 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Best analogy we got.


[11-Dec-19 02:55 AM] illumnious#7938

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[11-Dec-19 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess the thing about it is for me that I never tended to attribute successes or failures of my nation (whatever that means for Ukraine these days, anyway) to myself. I know many people do, and obviously then it can backfire hard. But for me, things I do not have a direct contact with or interest in are informative and little else.


[11-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
also, the example of tsunamis, or Fukusima, which also was a mismanaged mess born out of the 'live by the book, die by the book' culture, can be indicative of systemic problems but hardly in itself a reason for 'national PTSD' or something.


[11-Dec-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1204533600537972736?s=09

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President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion, thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses https://t.co/0avw7eseMc
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[11-Dec-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you Trump


[11-Dec-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Very cool


[11-Dec-19 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Judaism confirmed the only nationality you can convert out of


[11-Dec-19 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
sometimes it seems like Trump supports literally everyone but US people :D


[11-Dec-19 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
Russia, Turkey, Israel


[11-Dec-19 03:19 AM] Opponent#3498
or, more likely, he'll just sign anything people present him with a justification of how it'll make him look good or something.


[11-Dec-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
defining judaism as a nationality was literally what the nazis did


[11-Dec-19 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Nuremberg_laws_Racial_Chart.jpg/1280px-Nuremberg_laws_Racial_Chart.jpg

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[11-Dec-19 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent There was a story I heard from the beginning of the presidency that claimed that Trump would literally agree with whatever the last person in the room said. And that the Oval Office door was so open literally anyone was walking in and asking Trump to do things or give them stuff and he would, until someone came and asked him to rescind.


[11-Dec-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
btw @byte[] https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/473475-3-fired-from-west-virginia-agency-after-apparent-nazi-salute-photo

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3 fired from West Virginia agency after apparent Nazi salute photo
Three people were fired and dozens more have been suspended after a photo surfaced of West Virginia correction officer trainees apparently performing a Nazi salute.
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[11-Dec-19 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
3 were fired, 34 were suspended without pay


[11-Dec-19 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
two training instructors were fired, so I assume it was them who told the cadets to pose like that


[11-Dec-19 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well this is at least something.


[11-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
punish the ones making a call, issue a warning to others.


[11-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'm seeing about 28-30 people in that photo


[11-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
so likely everyone in the photo was suspended or fired


[11-Dec-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/CascadianSolo/status/1204306278173958145

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[11-Dec-19 05:55 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1204503645607333888

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House Democrats can push their sham impeachment all they want.

President Trump's re-election is 𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲. https://t.co/O7o02S26nS
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[11-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, use the clip from right before Iron Man owns your conservative asshole ass by sacrificing his own life.


[11-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
someone should edit that dumb clip to include bernie as iron man


[11-Dec-19 07:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Or Nancy Pelosi


[11-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Did you get acquitted in the Senate?"


[11-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/ehcp_lI5CAc

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Thanos seeing the soul her beloved daughter.
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[11-Dec-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess i need to watch endgame now to see how trump is defeated once and for all...


[11-Dec-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-lavrov-russia-white-house-today-impeachment-inquiry-us-election-a9241416.html

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Trump 'flouting his oath of office' by hosting Russian envoy and '...
Sergey Lavrov arrives at the White House saying he wants to "say good afternoon to the president"
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[11-Dec-19 01:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1204533600537972736?s=09

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President Trump will sign an executive order defining Judaism as a nationality, not just a religion, thus bolstering the Education Department's efforts to stamp out "Boycott Israel" movements on college campuses https://t.co/0avw7eseMc
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[11-Dec-19 01:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is this even constitutional?


[11-Dec-19 01:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, the president just defining ethnicities


[11-Dec-19 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
not likely. Religion has been a part of national identity historically (although Constitution would probably be opposed to that), but never the core of it.


[11-Dec-19 01:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds sketchy as fuck


[11-Dec-19 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
and probably vast overreach of the office but that's not new.


[11-Dec-19 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This also gives him an excuse to sic ICE on "the jews" if they fail to follow his orders


[11-Dec-19 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's not really touching citizenship, as I understand it. That was my first reflex, like, this instantly alienates those affected, but no.


[11-Dec-19 01:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If he's gonna set the precedent for defining ethnicities then he may as well install the proper mechanisms to ensure that


[11-Dec-19 01:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How would one apply for being identified as a Jew?


[11-Dec-19 01:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How would this interact with the citizenship question?


[11-Dec-19 01:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Again, it just sounds sketchy and desperate


[11-Dec-19 01:25 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much. I highly doubt any of these considerations are even at concept stage.


[11-Dec-19 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a pathetic attempt to quash the boycott isreal movement, that will likely lead to other abuses once he figures out the implications of what he;s done


[11-Dec-19 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they werent thought up in the conceptual phase, but once it;s there it can be used in a myriad of ways


[11-Dec-19 01:29 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm looking through posts on that tweet and I see this.


[11-Dec-19 01:29 PM] Opponent#3498
```Not to mention playing into the anti-Semitic “dual nationalities” slur.```


[11-Dec-19 01:29 PM] Opponent#3498
what's this about? Is it a thing?


[11-Dec-19 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
historically this is exactly what nazi germany did...


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, historically, if I understand what's being talked about, many people did this. Russians with german settlers, US with germans (starting from ww1 era) and japanese, turks and greeks, etc.


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
defining 'others' as having roots elsewhere.


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not anti-semitic, it's pretty commonplace.


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
or, was.


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except that jews don;t live in jewish, they come from isreal


[11-Dec-19 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
this is one of those things I hope dies asap.


[11-Dec-19 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their dual nationality is isreali


[11-Dec-19 01:32 PM] Opponent#3498
oh. So 'the jews' as in 'global sionist conspiracy'.


[11-Dec-19 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also not all religious jews are isreali


[11-Dec-19 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially that is the term here, yes


[11-Dec-19 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is basically taking the jewish people, singling them out and saying "If you boycott isreal, then you boycott the jewish people as i now tie thme to isreal through written orders"


[11-Dec-19 01:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Even the ones who don;t have an isreali dual nationality are going to be singled out


[11-Dec-19 01:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Worse thing is, this is an executive order


[11-Dec-19 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This in turn means the anti boycott movement gets to sue the boycott movement for discrimination even though they're boycottign the country not the people within it


[11-Dec-19 01:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Its questionable character will probably lead to it being overturned soon


[11-Dec-19 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
how did 'boycott Israel' come to be as a movement? I was under the impression they were one of US allies in the region, but evidently people on the ground aren't happy with them.


[11-Dec-19 01:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ICEgov/status/1204562328135458816

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[11-Dec-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isreal has been extremely abusive towards palestinians


[11-Dec-19 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (also known as BDS) is a Palestinian-led[1][2][3] campaign promoting various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets what the campaign describes as Israel's obligations under international law,[4] defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and "respecting, protecting, and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties".[4] The campaign is organized and coordinated by the Palestinian BDS National Committee.[5]


[11-Dec-19 01:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[11-Dec-19 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Corporations in america absolutely hate this boycott as it;s messing with their profit


[11-Dec-19 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which in turn means republicans ***in america*** are fighting it tooth and nail because their entire ideology is now motivated by money and power


[11-Dec-19 01:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, when we pushed a similar position, we at least were lucky enough to oppose Russia, so it got some traction for a while.


[11-Dec-19 01:56 PM] Opponent#3498
also I wonder who the big brain deciding to attact attention to ICE on this day was. Anyone with any common sense would tell them it's gonna backfire as the public opinion is currently against them.


[11-Dec-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same people who handle Trumps PR?


[11-Dec-19 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah probably.


[11-Dec-19 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The republicans dont know shit about PR anymore, they will openly galavant on stage to accept and praise a movement that is radically against them while shooting audience members in the face.


[11-Dec-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
metaphorically of course


[11-Dec-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for now...


[11-Dec-19 02:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.indy100.com/article/boris-johnson-fridge-hide-piers-morgan-interview-general-election-9241651?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1576054736

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Boris Johnson just hid in a fridge to escape Piers Morgan interview
In news that could only seem at home in Britain in 2019, Boris Johnson has hid in a fridge to avoid Piers Morgan. Yes, really. A video of the incident shows Johnson being ambushed by a Good Morning
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[11-Dec-19 02:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in fairness to Boris, interacting with Piers Morgan is kinda like exposing yourself to a nuclear explosion


[11-Dec-19 02:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevertheless this has been a pretty memeworthy act


[11-Dec-19 02:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/654306648021794826/FB_IMG_1576069250721.jpg

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[11-Dec-19 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-officials-lied-about-afghan-war-failures-documents-reveal-2019-12

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Top US officials knew the Afghanistan war was unwinnable and 'lied...
Thousands of pages of notes from hundreds of interviews reveal true US assessments of the war in Afghanistan, and it's not a pretty picture.
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[11-Dec-19 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Dec-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Protesters storm museum over naked Zapata painting
The painting shows the revolutionary hero naked on a horse while wearing high heels and a pink hat.
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[11-Dec-19 04:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`"For us as relatives, this denigrates the figure of our general, depicting him as gay," Mr Zapata González said, adding that the family would sue if the painting was not removed.`

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[11-Dec-19 04:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It seems they didn't get Marcos' memo


[11-Dec-19 04:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[11-Dec-19 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just replace Marcos with Zapata himself and there you have it


[11-Dec-19 04:12 PM] ononim#8141
Isn't Zapata is also a political figure in the wider Mexico?


[11-Dec-19 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh i'm not sure


[11-Dec-19 04:13 PM] ononim#8141
As in he was a big figure in the civil war in early 20th century and has influenced not just neo-Zapatistas in the south


[11-Dec-19 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah he may also have influenced some number of authoritarian communists, although i should look a bit further into this


[11-Dec-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/netflix-fox-final-order-injunction-1203431885/

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Netflix Ordered to Stop Poaching Fox Employees
A court on Tuesday issued an injunction barring Netflix from poaching employees from Fox and confirming the validity of fixed-term employment agreements. The ruling marks a hard-fought victory for …
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[11-Dec-19 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
> Netflix had sought to invalidate Fox’s fixed-term employment contracts, arguing that they locked employees into jobs they no longer wanted.
> **Had Netflix prevailed, it would have** upended a standard industry practice and **given employees greater leverage in negotiations with their employers**.

A victory for corporations and a loss for people


[11-Dec-19 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Dec-19 04:41 PM] Opponent#3498
that 'scrap metal' meme is pure gold.


[11-Dec-19 04:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll be saving that.


[11-Dec-19 04:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then companies start introducing a clause in their contracts,  where one is not allowed to work in the field for x years.


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
```All told, 2,351 American troops have died during the war as well as 3,814 US contractors, according to the Post.```


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
So how's this Second Gilded Age coming along?


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
which averages to ~1 kill per day. Yeah, that sounds familiar, doesn't it.


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much a natural cycle of a standing army in the field.


[11-Dec-19 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ those are already common in the US


[11-Dec-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
noncompete agreements


[11-Dec-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
however they are completely banned and unenforceable in california thankfully


[11-Dec-19 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
and I think washington too


[11-Dec-19 04:45 PM] Opponent#3498
guess we aren't doing so bad after all.


[11-Dec-19 04:46 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
You know, we can still win in Afghanistan if we really want to. We have the resources to invest to build up the infrastructure and schools. If we hadn't half-assed it in favor of a dumb war in Iraq, we'd have already won.


[11-Dec-19 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem starts long before the war


[11-Dec-19 04:46 PM] Opponent#3498
but that's not really the point, isn't it. US could literally burn it to the ground and salt the earth and they'd win.


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
the win condition itself isn't the issue.


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
how about we not invade the middle east in the 70s for oil


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
piss off everyone involved


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
and then sell arms to rebels


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I know how deep rooted these issues are, and we should do more about it.


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
gee I wonder why they fucking hate us


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Well, Israel is why they hate us, which is fair.


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
also the israel thing


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
but like, they were gonna get over it


[11-Dec-19 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
until we started fucking with them


[11-Dec-19 04:48 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
And don't lecture me about mujahideen, that was a good idea and if we had just cared enough to support the groups we wanted to win, none of this would've happened.


[11-Dec-19 04:48 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
(most of the crazies were exiles from Saudi Arabia anyway)


[11-Dec-19 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the EU human rights council is right about the US's behavior in the middle east: it's imperial looting


[11-Dec-19 04:52 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Brave of them to call us imperialist


[11-Dec-19 04:52 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
But yes, that's true


[11-Dec-19 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, the Old West would definitely know what they're talking about on this topic :P


[11-Dec-19 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-is-seriously-pissed-at-fox-news-believes-the-network-has-screwed-him-on-impeachment-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[11-Dec-19 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ebcc80d2f7e4bf0d911168d4e25d1f97

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[11-Dec-19 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well, the bill doesn't mean you aint gonna be shanked by a rusty sickle and/or set on fire.


[11-Dec-19 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Indian lawmakers approved legislation on Wednesday granting citizenship to non-Muslims who migrated illegally from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan despite ongoing protests against the measure in the country’s remote northeast.

The upper house of Parliament passed the bill 125-105 on Wednesday night. The lower house had approved it on Monday. It now needs to be signed by the country’s ceremonial president, a formality before becoming law.

The Citizenship Amendment Bill was introduced by the Hindu nationalist-led government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi following his resounding election victory in May.

Protesters say they oppose the legislation out of concern that migrants who came to the country illegally will move to the border region in the northeast and dilute the culture and political sway of indigenous tribal people.


[11-Dec-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f2d8d48dede72f5ceb9883e97818caa2

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Watchdog: "Basic and fundamental errors" in Russia probe
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department's internal watchdog will tell Congress on Wednesday that he is concerned that “so many basic and fundamental errors" were made by the FBI as it...
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[11-Dec-19 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"bark bark" says the DOJ


[11-Dec-19 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/r_5yUXjXizQ

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respecting beliefs | why we should do no such thing [cc]
An explanation of why I don't subscribe to the view that 'we should all respect each other's beliefs.' You can support the channel at: https://www.patreon.co...
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[11-Dec-19 06:04 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, fair enough, people traditionally tended to kill each other with the overarching goal of only one set of beliefs in any given region anyway.


[11-Dec-19 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Congrats on being a terrible human I guess https://i.imgur.com/r70HNtC.jpg

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[11-Dec-19 06:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-channels-inner-thanos-235308644.html

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[11-Dec-19 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Dec-19 06:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1204503645607333888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1204503645607333888&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com%2Fentertainment%2Fdonald-trump-channels-inner-thanos-235308644.html

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House Democrats can push their sham impeachment all they want.

President Trump's re-election is 𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲. https://t.co/O7o02S26nS
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[11-Dec-19 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h5ohrtilxx341.jpg

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[11-Dec-19 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
slow @AaronMk


[11-Dec-19 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614102/you-can-now-practice-firing-someone-in-virtual-reality/

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You can now practice firing someone in virtual reality
Meet Barry: his sole purpose in life is to listen patiently, and then protest or sob a little as you fire him from an imaginary job in virtual reality.Disposable hero: He was created by Talespin, a company that offers virtual reality workplace training.
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[11-Dec-19 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is so sad, Alexa please play One Million Ways To Kill a CEO


[11-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
🤡


[11-Dec-19 08:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Remember that game where you could pick a bunch of ways to kill your boss? We need that in VR


[11-Dec-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/07/medicare-chief-asked-taxpayers-to-cover-stolen-jewelry-077761

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Medicare chief asked taxpayers to cover stolen jewelry
Seema Verma requested $47,000 for items taken from an SUV that took her to a speech.
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[11-Dec-19 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[11-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it's been reported before, with less clickbaity headline.


[11-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
so much for 'personal responsibility'


[11-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
the medicare chief thing isn't clickbait


[11-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
I guess it's a little clickbaity since it doesn't specifically mention that she was reimbursed ""only"" $2.8k and not the full $47000 she requested


[11-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/pete-buttigieg-money-politics-billionaire-fundraisers-1476189

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Pete Buttigieg says "no" when asked if he thinks getting money out...
Buttigieg recently faced direct criticism from fellow Democratic presidential candidate Senator Elizabeth Warren over the fundraisers.
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[11-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
> Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg recently suggested that he plans to continue taking money from billionaires in closed-during fundraisers, despite scrutiny and criticism. His campaign later announced on Monday that it would allow press to attend fundraisers moving forward and identify individuals raising funds for Buttigieg.


[11-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
> During a campaign event over the weekend, student activist Greg Chung asked Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, directly about the concerns. "I wanted to ask if you think that taking big money out of politics includes not taking money off of billionaires and closed-door fundraisers," Chung asked, in a clip that has circulated on social media.


[11-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
> Answering immediately, Buttigieg responded: "No." The candidate then walked away to talk to other attendees at the event.

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[11-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
like I've said before, young gay biden


[11-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
shame nobody could follow that up by asking for a definition.


[11-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/87rtHrq

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Does anyone else think some art is a money laundering scheme
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[11-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
there should be a peer pressure emoji.


[11-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
clown isn't really that.


[11-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
🃏


[11-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
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A small Hong Kong democracy protest update
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[11-Dec-19 09:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/Lp9XoiFbZcI

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Boris Johnson retreats into fridge to avoid TV interview
During a live broadcast on ITV's Good Morning Britain, an aide to Boris Johnson seemingly mouthed 'oh for fuck's sake' when approached by a reporter. Jonatha...
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[11-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
oof chinese flashmob strikes again


[11-Dec-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/56f375fed460cdf366f8f9925f949d02

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Bloomberg calls for 'war on poverty' on 1st California trip
STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) — Michael Bloomberg took his Democratic presidential campaign to California on Wednesday, pledging to launch a “war on poverty” at an event in a city once known as the...
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[11-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
no, not another fucking war


[11-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
we did the war on drugs, it was a disaster


[11-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
we did the war on terrorism, it only made more terrorism


[11-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
no more fucking wars, they end in horrible failure


[11-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
in california, 1/8 homes are empty, 1/15 people are homeless, there's almost twice as many empty homes as there are homeless people


[11-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't call it the war on X


[11-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's not what it is


[11-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's always the war on people associated with X


[11-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "war on drugs" is really a war on the poor


[11-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "war on terrorism" is really the war on the people of the middle east.


[11-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is calling for a war on the impoverished.


[11-Dec-19 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
literal class warfare


[11-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the response should be a guillotine for him.


[11-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want."


[11-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
- General Sherman


[11-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
'In Bloomberg’s inequality plan, he’s proposing expanding tax credits to build low-income housing, increasing federal spending on public housing and launching a $10 billion competitive program to encourage cities to ease zoning restrictions that govern where and how developers can build.'


[11-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Bloomberg's plan is this:


[11-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
1) Make landlords rich off gov't money with newly-built housing


[11-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
2) Raise minimum wage so that they can milk tenants out of a bit more


[11-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notably absent is rent control.


[11-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notably present is deregulation.


[11-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a neoliberal scummy plan.


[11-Dec-19 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ZackBornstein/status/1204573425257340928

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There are two different ways to make pizza
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[12-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/474151-houses-proposed-impeachment-articles-are-serious-grounds-to-remove-the

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These two articles of impeachment are very serious business, warranting sober and serious scrutiny
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[12-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"So let’s get this straight: If the president assassinated the entire slate of potential Democratic presidential nominees, by Dershowitz’s reasoning, he could not be impeached because “assassination” is not expressly cited in the Constitution?"


[12-Dec-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irPwRdP63cA youtube sent me this

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SO SATISFYING: Shapiro completely mops the floor with this smug SJW
Watch Ben Shapiro leave this leftist student completely speechless as he drops truth bombs about transgenderism. --- Watch more #onlyatYAF videos every day! ...
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[12-Dec-19 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
(he attacks a strawman argument that she didn't make)


[12-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
business as usual.


[12-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://apnews.com/779a723625d58303b7beff55ed85c4f5

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AP Exclusive: Troops that defied Maduro have fled Venezuela
MIAMI (AP) — For seven nerve-wracking months, they slept through the day in cramped quarters on cold floors, while spending their nights in prayer, keeping fit with dumbbells made from water jugs...
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[12-Dec-19 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Dec-19 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
> If a tight end can sell his ability to take a hit up the middle, I can sell my tight end for a hit up the middle.

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[12-Dec-19 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
> After a number hits up the middle, you may not be able to sell it as a tight end anymore.
> They’ll make him a wide receiver....


[12-Dec-19 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOA8gXpios

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In today's episode of #SomeMoreNews, we discuss those feel-good stories about people pullin’ themselves up by their bootstraps that disguises economic suffer...
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[12-Dec-19 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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What if they just came out and said it
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[12-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
what would media eat then?


[12-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
they live and die  by 'sensations' and 'breaking news'. If people were honest, most of that goes out the window.


[12-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
@ intexda he repeats himself 4 times by 7th min


[12-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
this is pretty awful presentation. Really reaching to pad that 20min video.


[12-Dec-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osv20DN0aTw

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House Judiciary Committee Debates Articles of Impeachment
The House Judiciary Committee debates two articles of impeachment against President Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Watch LIVE on C-SPAN3,...
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[12-Dec-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[12-Dec-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The president should be an independant power and the judicial should be in the ones to judge" -seisenburger


[12-Dec-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy, here coems steve chabot to defend trump


[12-Dec-19 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
steve chabot kind of looks like a meiser version of trump...


[12-Dec-19 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here comes gohmert parroting the DOJ barking chuhuahua


[12-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shouty Man


[12-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is really talking about the articles


[12-Dec-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point there's no convincing many people that the presidency flatout disobeying congress is even a problem.


[12-Dec-19 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just monarchist.


[12-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy describing a parliamentary system and I'm like


[12-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Man that sounds really fucking good actually"


[12-Dec-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These red pins confused me


[12-Dec-19 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Coastal impeachment squad" really


[12-Dec-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they basically want a monarchy with a board of directors


[12-Dec-19 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck any person who is a Republican who lives in California I guess


[12-Dec-19 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's that word again


[12-Dec-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"TRump is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!"


[12-Dec-19 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On Kathy Griffin really


[12-Dec-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This sign won;t stop me because I don;t knwo how to read!" -ratcliffe

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[12-Dec-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Obstruction isn;t a crime because I don;t knwo what that means!"


[12-Dec-19 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
What bothers me isn't the republicans because I expected them to act this way


[12-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
it's this notion that a lot of casual observers seem to have latched onto that the executive is intended to have equal or greater power vs. the rest of the government


[12-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not true at all


[12-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the framers specifically wanted EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT


[12-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
but things naturally tend towards centralization


[12-Dec-19 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
so that is what we got


[12-Dec-19 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty clearly an abuse of power


[12-Dec-19 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want there not to be a Legislative or Judicial branch.


[12-Dec-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There;s no abuse of power because Barr said so, and he;'s only called in to defend honest and innocent people!


[12-Dec-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, one argument I've been seeing some on twitter is that the House cannot impeach unless Trump defies a subpoena that the courts rule finally he has to comply with.


[12-Dec-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's completely bunk, SCOTUS ruled that the House has sole discretion on impeachment, they could literally do it for no reason if they wanted to.


[12-Dec-19 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, Republicans seriously now hav compromised their understanding of how the rules work as part of their delusions that this is all illegitimate.


[12-Dec-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Dec-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it's


[12-Dec-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
BIG BRAIN TIME


[12-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are they even voting tonight


[12-Dec-19 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on what?


[12-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sending it to the full House


[12-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or is this just theater for both parties


[12-Dec-19 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
technically all of this has precious little legal power and is theater for both parties.


[12-Dec-19 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
its intent is 'impress people' and 'hurt re-elections', not actually accomplish anything tangible


[12-Dec-19 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Giving us documents is an abuse"


[12-Dec-19 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What's likely going to happen is they'll sit on it for a little bit because while everyone in congress may have their mind made up, public opinion is still shifting


[12-Dec-19 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also McConnell doesn't want to have his Christmas ruined


[12-Dec-19 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually really isn't


[12-Dec-19 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Correction: public opinion is largely in favor at this point, but it's growing


[12-Dec-19 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50 against 45 for


[12-Dec-19 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's significant, considering how the election turned out


[12-Dec-19 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also I'm referring to independents


[12-Dec-19 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's important mostly in terms of how the election will affect the Senate


[12-Dec-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not looking good for the super weak members of the GOP


[12-Dec-19 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP members vibrating in rage right now


[12-Dec-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if we can convince McConnell to do that secret vote thing


[12-Dec-19 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or if we can convince Roberts to not allow any of the senators named in the articles to act as a juror/vote


[12-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We'd have like 20 left if we took away everyone that is biased


[12-Dec-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not saying that


[12-Dec-19 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the articles of impeachment named names


[12-Dec-19 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they should recuse themselves


[12-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Government cheese mention


[12-Dec-19 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah wait, it only named the people in the executive


[12-Dec-19 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're not involved


[12-Dec-19 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was a whole lot of nothing.


[12-Dec-19 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have a lot of errant thoughts like that, unfortunately


[12-Dec-19 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was bloviation and irrelevance.


[12-Dec-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A procedural thing I guess


[12-Dec-19 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Motions can't pass if there's not a hearing to make statements etc


[12-Dec-19 07:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/xFt_aeQw2GA

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concealing abuse [cc]
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[12-Dec-19 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
this actually made me sick to watch


[12-Dec-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
OH HEY


[12-Dec-19 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/757/text?r=18

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Text - H.Res.757 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Calling for the res...
Text for H.Res.757 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Calling for the resignation and disbarment of United States Attorney General William P. Barr, and for other purposes.
https://www.congress.gov/img/opengraph1200by630.jpg


[12-Dec-19 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's another bill that came out just after this that's reiterating that Russia hacked the election and blamed Ukraine for it, and the whole intel community says so


[12-Dec-19 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it looks like the House put their big boy pants on suddenly with the release of the articles of impeachment (H.Res.755)


[12-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh nice


[12-Dec-19 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, we all know they hav to impeach Barr.


[12-Dec-19 07:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, to get him out, yes...but if any of the 3 bar associations disbar him (which they could do at any time, even if this bill doesn't pass) it puts him in a prickly situation


[12-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe.


[12-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see it happening tho.


[12-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would actually shoot people.


[12-Dec-19 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their threats will probably keep the 3 in line for long enuff.


[12-Dec-19 07:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Considering right now he's arguing against his own inspector general on national TV, I'll admit I agree the chances of anything happening are vanishingly slim...but nonzero


[12-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the 3 will want to not look political


[12-Dec-19 07:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't get what (6) is about though


[12-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll wait on Congress to act.


[12-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the Catch 22 of America right now


[12-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't be objective cause then Republicans say you're partisan


[12-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you do nothing, then they slander you as ineffectual.


[12-Dec-19 07:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right, and Republicans can't go against Trump because they'll be ostracized from their party, but if they side with him it'll hurt their chances of reelection


[12-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony 6 is about this "Whereas, on December 4, 2019, Attorney General Barr threatened the withholding of police protection from communities that do not show “support and respect” to law enforcement, a statement that has been interpreted as being directed at communities of color that protest police violence;"


[12-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr was blowing a dogwhistle to say there'd be no funds used for the 'hood.


[12-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The wording on 6 is weird, but the point is Barr is pro-racism.


[12-Dec-19 08:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe so
I wonder do the cops in these regions even want to go into these particular communities?


[12-Dec-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, to shoot blakk people.

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[12-Dec-19 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of the primary reasons they sign up to be cops.


[12-Dec-19 10:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK elections today


[12-Dec-19 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/caa6a6560a324d5e7d08302f644dd0cf

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Police arrest protesters amid curfew in India's northeast
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[12-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
India still at it I see


[12-Dec-19 11:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ, FOX NEWS is obsessed with CNN to a creepy degree


[12-Dec-19 11:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every day, one of their top stories is a new "CNN are LOSERS" shitpost

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[12-Dec-19 12:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/robert-jeffress-white-house-hanukkah_n_5df1b1a1e4b01e0f2959c43d

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Pastor Who Says Jews Are Going To Hell Speaks At Trump's Hanukkah ...
Robert Jeffress has also made inflammatory comments about Muslims, Mormons and Hindus.
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[12-Dec-19 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right after Trump made a friend of the jews speech. nice


[12-Dec-19 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-apple-monopolies-not-bad-if-not-abused-2019-12

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Apple CEO Tim Cook says monopolies aren't bad if they aren't abused
In an interview with Nikkei Asian Review on Wednesday, the Apple CEO denied that Apple had a monopoly in any sector.
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[12-Dec-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/3utY7wf

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UK election tomorrow. I was surprised to find how few people had actually heard this before.
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[12-Dec-19 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound in source


[12-Dec-19 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/11/bevin-issued-hundreds-pardons-and-commutations-final-day/4399770002/

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Bevin pardons include convicted killer whose brother hosted campai...
Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin pardoned hundreds of people, including some convicted of homicide, on his final days in office.
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[12-Dec-19 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/12/queensland-school-water-commercial-bottlers-tamborine-mountain

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Queensland school runs out of water as commercial bottlers harvest...
Parents have been told to consider keeping Tamborine Mountain state school students at home, while trucks take local water to bottling plants for companies including Coca-Cola
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[12-Dec-19 03:01 PM] byte[]#2610
tl;dr: Australian school runs out of water as commercial trucks take local water to bottling plants for companies including Coca-Cola. “Now the government is buying water back from Coca-Cola to bring here, which is where it came from in the first place.” The future of privatized water is happening today.

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[12-Dec-19 03:02 PM] byte[]#2610
we live in a corporatist dystopia


[12-Dec-19 03:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hb_uHZ2Quw

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Bottled Air A Hit In Smog-Filled China
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[12-Dec-19 03:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Dec-19 03:07 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being so dependent on the NHS yet voting to defund and eradicate it anyway


[12-Dec-19 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Dec-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50757383

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Patients die as lawyers ransack Pakistan hospital
Three patients died when lawyers attacked a cardiac hospital in Lahore in a dispute with doctors.
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[12-Dec-19 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I see Teaspoon wants to go back to law school


[12-Dec-19 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
plz no


[12-Dec-19 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnnlive/


[12-Dec-19 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's going exactly as you expect


[12-Dec-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Two sides talking to a wall, with the GOP literally screaming in rage


[12-Dec-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't know why they bother pretending any minds are going to be changed


[12-Dec-19 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should just vote it through and move forward


[12-Dec-19 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Election in the UK rn


[12-Dec-19 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope Jezza wins tbh


[12-Dec-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just hope borris johnson loses


[12-Dec-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo much about any of the candidates


[12-Dec-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
🦜  NO COLLUSION! NO RUSSIA! BIDEN, BIDEN, BIDEN!


[12-Dec-19 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
```Don't know why they bother pretending any minds are going to be changed```


[12-Dec-19 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
it maintains hype.


[12-Dec-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the chad cheese is gonna preach


[12-Dec-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You can't prove it because I can;t read!"


[12-Dec-19 04:50 PM] ononim#8141
```Consider another example. A, B’s employer, orders B to come directly to him, knowing that half-way there is a concealed trap. B walks into the trap and is injured. Reinach would find A liable. Rothbard would let him go, because there is no “overt physical invasion” initiated by A. A merely says something (which in itself is clearly a noninvasive act) to B; and then “nature” takes its course with no further interference on A’s part. That is, entrapment, as an indirectly and by in itself noninvasive means effected physical harm, would have to remain free of punishment. (Hoppe 2004, p. 92) ```


[12-Dec-19 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5DotTEuC5Q

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[12-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Mexican Joker?


[12-Dec-19 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/giuliani-caused-shock-among-ukrainians-for-working-with-expelled-politician-who-proposed-leasing-crimea-to-russia/

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Giuliani ‘Caused Shock’ Among Ukrainians for Working with Expe...
In an attempt to exonerate President Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani has been working with right-wing media outlet One America News Network (OAN) to produce a television special featuring a string of current and former Ukrainian officials defending Trump’s conduct in withholdin...
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[12-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
> According to OAN, the special, which will include the officials testifying “under oath” (though without any penalty for lying), is a two-part exclusive event in which Giuliani “debunks the impeachment hoax and exposes Biden family corruption in Ukraine.”


[12-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
> But the sordid list of “witnesses” taking part in the Giuliani-led effort, for the most part, appears to be laundry list of corrupt or otherwise extremely impeachable public figures. Of particular note is a former parliamentarian who was expelled from the country after proposing Crimea be rented to Russia, according to a Saturday report from The Daily Beast.


[12-Dec-19 06:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Smug Trixie Mexico-wide NeoZapatismo state now


[12-Dec-19 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610 (pinned)
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[12-Dec-19 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[12-Dec-19 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
huh, south and central are pretty ok


[12-Dec-19 07:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Down payment?


[12-Dec-19 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
required upfront in a loan


[12-Dec-19 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
if you pay for something in installments they want you to prove your solvency by providing a significant portion of the cost upfront


[12-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/474300-foxs-chris-wallace-calls-out-trump-over-most-sustained-assault-on-freedom-of

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Fox's Chris Wallace calls out Trump for the 'most sustained assaul...
Fox News host Chris Wallace on Wednesday said President Trump's continued attacks against the media amounted to the most "direct, sustained assault on the freedom of the press" in U.S. history.
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[12-Dec-19 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More than a quarter of Americans say the First Amendment "goes too far."


[12-Dec-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Wallace has the bare minimum of tegridy


[12-Dec-19 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
also https://i.redd.it/6dgg5rut74441.jpg

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[12-Dec-19 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
it's illegal to feed homeless people in fort lauderdale


[12-Dec-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/man-serves-six-month-jail-sentence-for-eating-cookie-without-permission-during-treatment-stay/2192085/

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Man Serves Jail Sentence for Eating Cookie Without Permission
The San Francisco Public Defender’s Office will ask the San Francisco Superior Court on Monday morning to release a man who is currently serving a six-month jail sentence for eating a leftover cookie without permission while undergoing a residential treatment program. Grego...
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[12-Dec-19 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
> I represent people in parole revocation hearings. I once had a client returned to prison for six months for feeding his peacocks while on house arrest (peacocks were in backyard). I had another returned for 50 days for using his medicinal cannabis (legal in my state) exactly as directed (his agent said this was a risk to public safety and why can’t he just use oxy instead?). Multiple clients have been sent back to prison for deviating from their preapproved schedules by doing things like stopping at the gas station on the way home or taking their kids to the hospital. > Anyone who thinks the criminal “””justice””” system works needs to take a wide-eyed look at the world around them instead of simply calling for more punishments.


[12-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474311-campaign-edits-time-person-of-the-year-cover-to-show-trumps-face-on#

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Campaign edits Time 'Person of the Year' cover to show Trump's fac...
President Trump's reelection campaign tweeted an edited cover of Time magazine's "Person of the Year" issue on Thursday which depicted the president's head on the shoulders of Greta Thunberg, a 16-year-old climate change activist.
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[12-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Creepy


[12-Dec-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
what promises kept...


[12-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good to know "don't attack kids" only applies to Trump's


[12-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and any kid with a conservative viewpoint


[12-Dec-19 07:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie contining from general about twerking,  would that ever change


[12-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that twerking in itself is the problem


[12-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that she's blakk


[12-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro can walk the line by having a blakk singer for their extremely white as fukk series' trailer


[12-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
but once she's doing something visually sexy, that's a problem.


[12-Dec-19 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The attention turns to her body, and white kids lust after it.


[12-Dec-19 07:33 PM] ononim#8141
>The attention turns to her body, and white kids lust after it.


[12-Dec-19 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some executive likely made a gut reaction pull before it could even be discussed.


[12-Dec-19 07:33 PM] ononim#8141
Nebbie or Stormfront


[12-Dec-19 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's saying what Hasbro is thinking


[12-Dec-19 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If it were a white singer doing the same shit nothing would have happened.


[12-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
is there some context for this?


[12-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
what twerking thing?


[12-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lizzo twerked at a sports game


[12-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro pulled the Pony Life trailer from YouTube within hours.


[12-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's the singer of the song it uses.


[12-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's probably kept on Instagram because the decision wasn't properly discussed, and the executives don't want to completely burn the bridge.


[12-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hedging their bets until they see how the media storm plays out.


[12-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also Instagram's audience is much more blakk and "trashy" to begin with.


[12-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
... the way you explained it just sounds like some kind of really big "ok boomer" moment


[12-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[12-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some Hasbro exec pulled a fukking trailer


[12-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
for having a song


[12-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
sung by someone who just made themselves a bit of a sex symbol publicly


[12-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
while being the wrong race.


[12-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, the American public was majority not okay with mixed race marriage until the 90s


[12-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
When millennials started being born, most people still hated that blakks and whites could marry.


[12-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hasbro execs are very likely all boomers and Gen x right now.


[12-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a scourge.


[12-Dec-19 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
On a related note, https://reason.com/2019/12/11/an-lgbt-discrimination-compromise-bill-is-proposed-in-an-uncompromising-culture/

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An LGBT Discrimination Compromise Bill Is Proposed in an Uncomprom...
Several Republican lawmakers have introduced a compromise bill that would provide gay and transgender people federal discrimination protections while still
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[12-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, this would make legal protections for gay/trans people in for-profit non-religious workplaces the law


[12-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the expense of, you know, the rest.


[12-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds good on paper, one more step, until you realize that SCOTUS is currently looking at a case where the default legal understanding says that these protections already exist, universally.


[12-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
By passing this law, it would undercut that universalness, and possibly even make the case be sufficiently moot that it gets thrown out.


[12-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could then later repeal this law to remove protections using that reasoning.


[12-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's an attempt to disguise a destruction of the rights as a "compromise".


[12-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[12-Dec-19 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Posted before yes.


[12-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
isn't life expectancy going down now in the US right now


[12-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
that thing's probably outdated


[12-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[12-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also yes.


[12-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you extend out to 2016, it comes down from the 2014 high.


[12-Dec-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/474229-trump-criticizes-greta-thunberg-after-person-of-the-year-win-chill

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Trump criticizes Greta Thunberg after 'Person of the Year' win: 'C...
President Trump criticized climate activist Greta Thunberg after the 16-year-old was named Time’s "Person of the Year," writing on Twitter that she need to “work on her Anger Management problem.”
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[12-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/report-parnas-russia-ukraine-trump-impeachment-giuliani-money.html

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Report: Trump’s Ukraine Extortion Scheme Was Financed by Russians
Turning over U.S. foreign policy to people getting paid by Russia seems bad.
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[12-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit dude


[12-Dec-19 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh wow, it ties back to russia... what a plot twist


[12-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
it's insane that this might not even be the first impeachment charges brought against trump


[12-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
if he isn't removed the first time, there'll be more stuff to charge him with again


[12-Dec-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
multiple impeachment trials would be amazing to watxh


[12-Dec-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the russian pit keeps digging deeper, and deeper, and deeper


[12-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-phoenix-agrees-cancel-141-million-student-loan-debt-n1099681

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University of Phoenix to cancel $141 million in student debt
The deal, announced Tuesday, settles a dispute over an ad campaign the for-profit college launched in 2012.
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[12-Dec-19 08:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1205100602025545730

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So ridiculous. Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill! https://t.co/M8ZtS8okzE
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[12-Dec-19 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Dec-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
\> Followed by Monica Lewinsky


[12-Dec-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
woof


[12-Dec-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what fuck up trump will pull to end the year/decade on


[12-Dec-19 08:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/JackiSchechner/status/1205143136495783937?s=20

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If you’re a Republican member of Congress and you’re defending @realDonaldTrump because you’re afraid you won’t get re-elected if you don’t, you’re a coward. If you’re not running for re-election and still ignoring the truth, you’re even worse. 

#impeachme...
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[12-Dec-19 08:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/12/nasa-ice-surface-mars/

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NASA finds 'water ice' just below the surface of Mars
Locating ice means future astronauts have a source of drinking water and rocket fuel.
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[12-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't political


[12-Dec-19 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-children-must-undergo-mandatory-training-to-learn-how-to-avoid-defrauding-charities/

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Trump’s children must undergo mandatory training to learn how to...
President Donald Trump’s three eldest children have agreed to undergo a mandatory training seminar to ensure they don’t fraudulently misuse charity funds in the future. The New York Times reports that, as part of a settlement the New York State Attorney General’s Office...
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[12-Dec-19 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how about jsut barrign them from every charity here and forever more


[12-Dec-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wSgNHSjU8&t=15693

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WATCH LIVE | Trump impeachment inquiry: House Judiciary Committee ...
The House continues markup of the Trump impeachment articles, which began Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern. House Democrats unveiled two articles of impeachment a...
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[12-Dec-19 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
ratcliffe is arguing that because the US interferes in other countries' elections "all the time" that foreign interference in US elections is ok


[12-Dec-19 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s an idiot


[12-Dec-19 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you are a nation that interferes in outside elections, the last thing you want is your own elections meddled with


[12-Dec-19 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Dec-19 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's very telling without the context behind it!"


[12-Dec-19 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How is this bitch mispronouncing "bragging"


[12-Dec-19 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If he wanted to get to the bottom of it, he would have done it through the FBI, and not the ukranian government


[12-Dec-19 08:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tfw America is living in not just non-existent time where the era is indistinguishable from the previous, but is trapped in non-existent space where nowhere is distinguished from itself.


[12-Dec-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the fbi needed help from the ukranian government, THEY would have contacted the ukranian government themselves


[12-Dec-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also wouldnt have fucking sent giuliani for private talks


[12-Dec-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then open an investigation into biden, This one is about trump you bootlick


[12-Dec-19 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Then again thanks to Trump, it doesnt matter what you do, because all evidence that might have been against biden is tainted to hell and back since it wasnt collected through official investigative means


[12-Dec-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But obama didnt do us any favors!"


[12-Dec-19 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nobody talking about how Wine Stain is getting away with it? He settled out of court and insurance companies are paying for it... So much for #metoo


[12-Dec-19 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent seen any news on it


[12-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, someone just got 25 mil USD, so...


[12-Dec-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
weinsteins public image is also tarnished, so...


[12-Dec-19 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may not be the total prefered outcome but there was damage done, and his insurance premiums are going to go thorugh the roof


[12-Dec-19 09:38 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/AndreaJ152230/status/1205121378548166656?s=20

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@realDonaldTrump what a time to be alive!
the President of the United States is acting like a preteen girl making jealous snipey tweets and a teenager is trying to save the world
#GretaThunbergOutdidTrump 
#TrumpIsALaughingStock https://t.co/H7m1TrAT9I
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[12-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We shouldn't have witnesses to the president extorting other nations over the phone"
Now THIS is a hot take


[12-Dec-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait what


[12-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We should use the unity engine to end this impeachment or else it might clip through the country"


[12-Dec-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well golly gee, gohmert! If you dont understand how a crime can be ongoing maybe you should look in a law book


[12-Dec-19 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1205204672673271808

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🔵 Make no mistake.

#VoteConservative
#GeneralElection2019
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[12-Dec-19 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BERXIT


[12-Dec-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gert berxit dern!


[12-Dec-19 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow he said the phrase "presidential harrasmant"


[12-Dec-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't listen to this anymore, everytime a republican speaks my braincells die a little


[12-Dec-19 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie sorry for late reply; fell asleep.  ty


[12-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So as far as twitter goes, I think "demonrats" is being driven by Putin.


[12-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It sounds incredibly awkward in English for what it's punning


[12-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
sounds even worse in russian tho. Anything's possible, but this seems more like a chinese thing, with their 'netizens' and other weird-ass words like this.


[12-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
STOP SAYING BREYGING


[12-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
THAT'S NOT A WORD


[12-Dec-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But bayden was breyging about his acheivments in stoiping corruption


[12-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you guys talking about using the sound in "A" as in the name of the letter for bragging?


[12-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a northwestern accent thing.


[12-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
'ag' is pronounced like 'ache' but with a g sound.


[12-Dec-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/LackingSaint/status/1205199869016719361?s=19

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hey so, remember a few months back when I did a video talking about the abysmal treatment of animation/VFX teams, and my concern that the team behind the #SonicMovie redesign were going to be massively underpaid, overworked, and ultimately tossed aside?

well guess what
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[12-Dec-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
NO PAY


[12-Dec-19 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
ONLY WORK


[13-Dec-19 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Exitpoll is here for the uk
Conservatives: 368
    Labour: 191
    SNP: 55
    Liberal Democrats: 13
    Plaid Cymru: 3
    Green Party: 1
    Brexit Party: 0
    Other: 19


[13-Dec-19 12:22 AM] ononim#8141
Ah, so it's Troubles 2.0 and Scottish Independence time


[13-Dec-19 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Berxit has won


[13-Dec-19 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Brexit won the moment rich people decided it was what was best for them


[13-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There has never been and there will never be any major change that doesn't lead to the rich getting richer

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[13-Dec-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe all of the people saying the US needs a moderate are right


[13-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GIVE ME YANG


[13-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll get Trump again because the American left won't ever think long term and you'll like it.


[13-Dec-19 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ it's amazing how GOP will talk about absolutely anything except the actual topic


[13-Dec-19 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Remember to snitch on your neighbors, kids!"


[13-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Does the new kid at school have a funny accent? Call us up!"


[13-Dec-19 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) it may be hours before definite results for the election come in tho


[13-Dec-19 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
*looks at my and parents rooms which are almost entierelly IKEA*


[13-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ these people


[13-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything to not talk about the actual issue


[13-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I enjoyed the swipe at Gaetz for his DWI


[13-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta play dirty


[13-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest is boring


[13-Dec-19 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw in the eu illegal immigrants have healthcare because we actually consider them to be people


[13-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno why US hospitals just don't have an official executioner to shoot anyone too poor to pay for $200 paracetamol


[13-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Certainly seems to be what Republicans want


[13-Dec-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Republicans said that was their fear.


[13-Dec-19 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If they made hospital death panels, thne what woudlthey accuse democrats of wanting whenever they want healthcare reform?


[13-Dec-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means, it's what they want, but they need to spend 20 years slowly sneaking it in.


[13-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't implement their fears against their opponents that fast, it would be too obvious.


[13-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
By waiting 20 years, nobody really thinks it's hypocritical.


[13-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God I cannot stand even the sight of Gaetz


[13-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they're saying Trump's impeachment is bad, 20 years after doing almost exactly the same but stupider with Clinton.


[13-Dec-19 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gaetz looks like a gym douche turned politician


[13-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He is the ultimate Chet Williamson Esquire the 3rd Junior


[13-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, UK elections are retarded.


[13-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically US elections except with false choices.


[13-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's never really any coalition governance.


[13-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somehow the utter joke Johnson is going to get a huge majority.


[13-Dec-19 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is just about racism, I guess people really do want insulin to cost $10,000 a month as long as it means brown people aren't allowed to exist.


[13-Dec-19 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Before I even knew of his existence, his face is literally what would come to mind when thinking about overprivileged shitbrids that play lacross and react to any challenge with "Don't you know who my dad is?!"


[13-Dec-19 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite frankly i'm surprised he isnt using "don't you know who my dad is" to defend donald trump


[13-Dec-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or any other variation of that


[13-Dec-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i guess listing all of trumps "acheivements" is kind of doing that


[13-Dec-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
BUT THE JERBS!!!


[13-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-budget-office-offers-legal-justification-ukraine/story?id=67677739

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White House budget office offers new legal justification for Ukrai...
The White House office that placed the controversial hold on the aid to Ukraine said in a legal memo that it held it up the money to ensure it was being spent properly.
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[13-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
... the aid offered is in supplies delivered


[13-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't direct financial aid


[13-Dec-19 02:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Isn't there, like, an entire thing about - yeah


[13-Dec-19 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[13-Dec-19 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Though Crow is not *entirely* correct here


[13-Dec-19 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump keeps digging his hole


[13-Dec-19 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some of it is, in fact, direct financial aid - but when Congress signed off on it, the money was already earmarked for where it was supposed to go


[13-Dec-19 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't exactly know how the process works but I'm pretty sure it isn't on *annuity*


[13-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus fucking christ


[13-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They are literally incapable of talking about the actual issue


[13-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the fucking judge going "Well, he's a kid from a good family with a great career ahead of him..." defense


[13-Dec-19 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which kid now?


[13-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> The memo does not explain what steps, if any, OMB took to determine whether the funds were being spent efficiently and effectively, and it does not explain why the aid was eventually unfrozen.


[13-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The hundreds of judges that let rapists and DUIs and other criminals go free because "Well, he's a nice kid from a good home and a record would really get in the way of his prospective career to be a doctor/lawyer/etc"


[13-Dec-19 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that what this current guy is talking about?


[13-Dec-19 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just tuned bakc in


[13-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the main GOP defence


[13-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They avoid talking about what Trump is accused of and instead talk about the economy or whatever horrific thing Trump did that the GOP thinks is good actually


[13-Dec-19 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For 5 fucking minutes at a time


[13-Dec-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don understand buck;s ramblings


[13-Dec-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck is he even talking about


[13-Dec-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump pardoned a rapist, and we think that; swell because he was a rich lacross kid who everyone knew who his dad was"


[13-Dec-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats here have far more tact than me, i would have yelled at thme to shut the fuck up by now and get to the point...


[13-Dec-19 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course i;m never going to be a congressmen since i dont know enough baout law to properly know what the fuck i;m doing


[13-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8 to be honest I appreciate having a high level sense of self control to keep me away from these people, because at a lower level would I be in striking distance I'd go for the eyes


[13-Dec-19 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The senate will call in hunter biden" ok so he can testify that indeed trump withheld aid to investigate him falsely?


[13-Dec-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
says the man whose whole defense is doing exactly that


[13-Dec-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you seem to be the only one besmirching the dead here


[13-Dec-19 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Says the man pushing an agenda


[13-Dec-19 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would make a horrible congressman during this because i wouldnt go for the eyes, i would go for the neck


[13-Dec-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh thank god someone finally said something


[13-Dec-19 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they ignore him


[13-Dec-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking Jordan


[13-Dec-19 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also fucking GOP


[13-Dec-19 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-gif-4680729

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[13-Dec-19 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have a bunch of spineless nobodies there only to claim time to immediately yield it to their "superstars" that FOX NEWS will put on a pedestal


[13-Dec-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not even funny


[13-Dec-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have like 4 guys that the rest defer to because they've got nothing but repeating thee same shit


[13-Dec-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is frustratrignly exhausting


[13-Dec-19 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Watching the Game Awards instead


[13-Dec-19 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also gives me the urge to murder


[13-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Democrats were actually liberal we wouldn't be in this position


[13-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Norman Reedus would like to recognize Norman Reedus for his excellent portrayal of Norman Reedus in the recent scifi recreation of Norman Reedus as future UPS Man


[13-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would've pushed for censuring Clinton and made things less of a joke


[13-Dec-19 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It already won one award and the show hasn't officially started @Teaspoon


[13-Dec-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current situation exists because both parties are neoliberal fukkheads who will do whatever it takes to win


[13-Dec-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Republicans just doubling down more on it


[13-Dec-19 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is much more pleasant to listen to


[13-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Xbox Series X


[13-Dec-19 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
might want to move it to general


[13-Dec-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/millennials-are-leaving-religion-and-not-coming-back/

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[13-Dec-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Thank the lord


[13-Dec-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
millennials are killing the moralistic slavery industry


[13-Dec-19 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[13-Dec-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Dec-19 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I guess he did what he could


[13-Dec-19 05:12 AM] Macarou#9574
He looks so tired


[13-Dec-19 05:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The left is in dire need of some very shrewd and uncompromising new leadership tbh


[13-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
lmao @byte[], I sent that article about millennials killing religion to my mom, and she blames socialism for killing religion, even though she's atheist


[13-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Macarou#9574
How odd


[13-Dec-19 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
she has some kind of obsession with equating everything she sees as "bad" in her trump-tainted worldview as being caused by "socialism"


[13-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
she listens to all the loudest conservative talking head radio hosts like sean hannity, rush limbaugh, mark levin, and some guy named dan bongino


[13-Dec-19 05:31 AM] Macarou#9574
Have you ever asked her to define what socialism is, and if so, did she give an answer? I also can't say i'm familiar with those hosts, then again, I don't listen to much radio.


[13-Dec-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatism preys on the fearful to advance a fear-inspiring ideology


[13-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Macarou#9574
I never thought I'd meet a person who was completely unfamiliar with Karl Marx, but I have, doesn't even recognize the name.


[13-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Macarou#9574
A friend of mine, I mean.


[13-Dec-19 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  can that even be sustained? that doesn't sound healthy in terms of both mental health and getting people to stay


[13-Dec-19 05:56 AM] jlun2#8758
"The world is doomed, and there's nothing you can do about it!"
Welp, time to die I guess.


[13-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sounds like a plan


[13-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article238320918.html


[13-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the Republican party


[13-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy murders his wife horrifically


[13-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there was like, some potential evidence that wasn't used in the trial


[13-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
so despite a MOUNTAIN of circumstantial evidence


[13-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
pardoned.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure someone else totally just came in, killed her, chopped her head off, and tried to hide the evidence.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the GOP approach to Trump's innocence applied to an angry husband.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  Let me guess. The murderer is white.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
White male.


[13-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he was blakk or gay or female there'd be no pardon.


[13-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
@Macarou, she defines socialism as basically everything she doesn't agree with, like her kneejerk reaction to being asked what socialism is is to say "global warming" and then expand on that by saying that "the democrats" treat global warming like a cult and compares it to 1984


[13-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
ignoring the fact that 1984 was written by an antifascist marxist revolutionary


[13-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, @jlun2


[13-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy doing the pardon


[13-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
is the state's governor who just lost reelection last month.


[13-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Macarou#9574
Well, that's, not a very good definition at all, how'd she come to define it that way?


[13-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, Crow's mom is the definition of cognitive dissonance.


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
She makes up ANYTHING to validate Republicans and Trump and rampant neoliberalism.


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] jlun2#8758
So I assume if a gen y/millenial/gen z white male got into the same situation in the future they're probably screwed? @Nebbie


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably.


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So don't go murdering horrifically and beheading your former partners.


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl Crow your mom sounds delusional


[13-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP will hesitate to pardon you.


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  That's my fear; that when I reach senior I go like that, but on  a diff topic


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might still do it, but unlikely.


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  not white so can't even have that "chance"


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welp.


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP would want you executed.


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In related news


[13-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Dem primary now is just white+asian


[13-Dec-19 06:09 AM] jlun2#8758
not sure if this counts as politics, but this came up when I searched for facebook's ceo https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-26/zuckerberg-s-quest-to-explore-future-featured-mostly-white-men


[13-Dec-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/6xqCkx6WQBE

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[13-Dec-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 how much depth do you want?


[13-Dec-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the thing about fear is that it's overpowering


[13-Dec-19 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
you can use it to justify almost any thought or behavior


[13-Dec-19 06:15 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[13-Dec-19 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't need paralysis level stop-dead-in-your-tracks fear to do this


[13-Dec-19 06:16 AM] jlun2#8758
for some reason I was expecting it to have mostly really depressed, paranoid, and burned out followers


[13-Dec-19 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
the fear that you will be punished for questioning what you are told


[13-Dec-19 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
the fear that people of a different ethnicity will commit violent acts against you


[13-Dec-19 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
the fear that you will be alone if you think


[13-Dec-19 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
the republican party is powered by these kinds of fears


[13-Dec-19 06:20 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds really stressful to be one


[13-Dec-19 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it is!


[13-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck this country
Fuck Boris Johnson
Fuck the Tories
And fuck the shitty media that helped them get elected


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it's exhausting to have to constantly be on guard for liberals who want to take your guns and brown people who want to knock up your daughter


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
but they do it anyway


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
out of fear


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Yuri Yuri do you have any means of escape


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey heads up my right-wing sources are signal-boosting a 12-second clip of a kid getting beat up on a school bus. There's apparently a lawsuit, and allegedly a MAGA hat involved. I have no further details...so let's wait for more before we turn this into another Drum Guy debacle


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm fucking off from here the very first chance I get


[13-Dec-19 06:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's likely a hard Brexit would make the UK come crashing down and turn into an US dependent banana republic


[13-Dec-19 06:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I seriously hope someone decent becomes POTUS next year


[13-Dec-19 06:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm betting so many of my chips on it, maybe too many


[13-Dec-19 06:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I really hope I don't go like that once I reach 65; I know it's "easy" to say "hur hur hur I won't be like my parents" but then the hippies said the same before becoming conservative like some physical, inevitable, law


[13-Dec-19 06:24 AM] Yuri#4154
Not only do I have to wait two _fucking_ years to actually get an appointment for HRT, when our dear fucking leader sells the NHS to US drug companies I'll likely have to pay for it


[13-Dec-19 06:24 AM] Yuri#4154
Thanks but no thanks


[13-Dec-19 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
keep questioning and reading


[13-Dec-19 06:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Yuri *hug*


[13-Dec-19 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
as long as you continue to express critical thought, you will not become like them


[13-Dec-19 06:25 AM] Yuri#4154
Thanks, Badger


[13-Dec-19 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just so damn bad seeing conservatives extend their tendrils everywhere


[13-Dec-19 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just wish for some glimmer of hope


[13-Dec-19 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Any


[13-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Yuri#4154
Now that Corbyn's out, Labour's likely to move to the centre and we won't have an actual left wing party for a while


[13-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Yuri#4154
Ugh


[13-Dec-19 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say it depends


[13-Dec-19 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's likely they won't go full Blairite


[13-Dec-19 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Labour might learn something from this


[13-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Yuri#4154
Hell, it doesn't matter who replaces him, the media will almost surely run another smear campaign the next election


[13-Dec-19 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmm... how do we break up the media without having to wait for the uneducated baby boomers to die?


[13-Dec-19 06:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  well, if you look at news on things that interest you outside politics, there's probably "hopeful" things


[13-Dec-19 06:29 AM] jlun2#8758
unless they're all eternally delayed like nuclear fusion, in which case rip


[13-Dec-19 06:29 AM] Yuri#4154
Hopefully Scotland will get off this sinking ship before it's too late


[13-Dec-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Amen


[13-Dec-19 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Northern Ireland too


[13-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Yuri#4154
I can not describe the crushing feeling I had when I saw the exit poll


[13-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Yuri#4154
I finally let myself have just a little hope and I saw _that_


[13-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Yuri#4154
Just


[13-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Yuri#4154
...fuck


[13-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently people really want the NHS to die in a fire.


[13-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
C'mere UK, the water's warm, because of the blood of the poor.


[13-Dec-19 06:37 AM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri  I just assume boomers are a collective that jerks off of younger generation tears, then go and feel guilty because masturbation is a sin


[13-Dec-19 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
from what I understand, the left in the UK is pretty demoralized and voting way below average, but the tory voters are voting relatively normally


[13-Dec-19 06:39 AM] Yuri#4154
Turnout in many places is lower than 2017


[13-Dec-19 06:40 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  Let me guess. The boomers will never see the consequence of that, even if the NHS magically went bankrupt right now.


[13-Dec-19 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then there's the ERG over on the right just beating their heads back and forth in a bucket


[13-Dec-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Correct.


[13-Dec-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers will be mostly dead within 20 years.


[13-Dec-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time they're having to pay ten thousand pounds a month for insulin, they'll be dead anyways.


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244999590695141388/654896763450163200/cold-war-propaganda.gif

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[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least retired and hopelessly unable to vote.


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Yuri#4154
Boomers don't give a shit about the NHS and how much they'll get fucked as long as a minority of their choice will get fucked worse than them


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
wasn't it boomers that created the NHS?


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it was the generation preceding them, I think.


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  my headcannon is that boomers will mostly "magically" beat the average lifespan and all live to 100s just to buttfuck the newer generations a bit longer


[13-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with boomers is they grew up taking all the "Grand Society" stuff for granted.


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They never went thru the war that birthed them.


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't know what unemployment is even like.


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
vietnam?


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Yuri#4154
If Labour proposed to create the NHS today the media and Tories would call it "health communism"


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the economic downturn of the 70s?


[13-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam only involved the US, not the UK, and it was much more limited in scale.


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The downturn was tiny


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and also mainly limited to the US)


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you must realize, even at the worst part of the 70s


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could get a job for $10 an hour


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
about what you get today


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Vietnam_(1945%E2%80%9346)

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[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
except it was basically $80 an hour in today's money.


[13-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.forces.net/heritage/history/britain-vietnam-war

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Britain ... In The Vietnam War?
But Britain was never involved in Vietnam? Find out why that's not quite true...
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[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah the uk was involved in nam


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just a earlier part of it


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Jesus

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[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] jlun2#8758
Is there a disease that causes parents to unable to comprehend inflation?


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to NEARLY the same extent


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Yuri#4154
The only silver lining is that the SNP did well


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam even in the US didn't greatly affect the generation


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw


[13-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
many studies hav been done on vietnam drafting effects


[13-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally speaking, fighting there was bad.


[13-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Yuri#4154
The SNP will definitely fight hard for another IndyRef


[13-Dec-19 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
assuming healthcare goes bankrupt, I assume there's no way in my life time it ever gets reimplemented because "ew commie" right?


[13-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Depends on how long your lifetime is.


[13-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Yuri#4154
The UK might not be United much longer


[13-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which with poor healthcare, might be short.


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that people in the US literally work a job but can't afford insulin and fukking die.


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diabetes is rapidly becoming a death sentence.


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Can't wait for that to be a thing here


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Kill me


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I imagine the next thing Johnson will go after


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
is "elective" surgeries


[13-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
AKA gender reassignment surgery in particular


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hate trans people, and love to leverage TAXPAYER MONEY as an argument to get people to support them blowing billions on wars and none on the needy.


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
I just hope that the stereotype on living with parents being losers will finally die


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahahhahaha


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
We went a full lifetime with everyone moving out at 18 to buy a house.


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Oh they'll almost definitely come after trans people when Brexshit is done


[13-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Which is why ima piss off from here asap


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will be another 50 years before people in the US accept that it's not normal to move out immediately and get a new house.


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] jlun2#8758
my sister tried; she came back a year later after spending 80% salary on rent


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Yuri#4154
The UK is the TERF capital


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know I had a thought the other day on expenses


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, say it's 1950


[13-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're paid $5 an hour


[13-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rent is $100 a month


[13-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Groceries are $10 a week


[13-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's assume that total expenses are always double rent+groceries, and a month is exactly 4 weeks


[13-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's $280 a month in expenses


[13-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you work 9-5 every weekday, or 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 40 hours a week thus.


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie do you live in the us or in the uk?


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it matter?


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
does it mat- lawl


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in a week, you earn $200


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just curious. since you specifically mention how the uk was not involved in nam when I brought it up


[13-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning after a week and 2 more days, you cover expenses


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wasn't fukking saying it had NOTHING to do with nam


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was SAYING that it didn't send any large fraction of its populace to fight


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument was about the generational effects of people going thru hardship


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
not about geopolitics.


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
WW2 sent so many men to europe that women literally had to take up jobs to keep the economy from crashing


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but do you live in the UK? i'm curious now


[13-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, after that week and 2 days


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a further 2 weeks and 3 days you earn essentially "free money", your net income before taxes.


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So every month, you accrue $920 in savings


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Noooow


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Today


[13-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federal minimum wage is, what, $7.50?


[13-Dec-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many jobs pay exactly that, unlike in the 50s


[13-Dec-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that is, if the state doesn't set higher)


[13-Dec-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rent is like $800 a month or something


[13-Dec-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Groceries at least $50 a week


[13-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, let's say actually, you earn $10 an hour


[13-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause most states do set higher, and you know, some places do hire for a tad higher still.


[13-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So again with 40 hours a week


[13-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need 2 weeks to cover rent


[13-Dec-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you need half of another week to cover groceries


[13-Dec-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notice the problem here.


[13-Dec-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're assuming total expenses are *double* rent+groceries


[13-Dec-19 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need 5 weeks per month to cover your expenses then.


[13-Dec-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 weeks per month is literally impossible, so what do you do?


[13-Dec-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You reduce your expenses, of course


[13-Dec-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you can't just not eat


[13-Dec-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you can't just not hav a place to liv


[13-Dec-19 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So all that other stuff


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going to movies, doctor visits, car payments, fixing up the house, learning a new skill


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it all goes out the window.


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
These numbers aren't actually the averages, but they're not unreasonable.


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can actually fill in the actual averages if you want.


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] jlun2#8758
then you get mocked by boomers for being a lazy loser


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of them should be available but like


[13-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
this isn't good.


[13-Dec-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw, rent around here starts at $300 a month for like, rat-infested slum holes


[13-Dec-19 06:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So all in all you don't feel like vietnam was a big enough deal for the greater "boomer" generation as a whole and is mainly an only US problem yes? What do you consider to be generational defining things for the various gens?


[13-Dec-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you work at a normal job, you get $9 an hour


[13-Dec-19 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
no benefits


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Groceries are a little expensive at more like $60 per week


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You won't liv anywhere nice without spending at least $600 a month on rent.


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would mean no savings.


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sunnyside  my parents moved to canada, and growing up I don't recall a thing about veitnam, so doesn't seem like some global thing


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to vietnam, there were less soldiers sent


[13-Dec-19 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure you literally can't live in california if you can't afford at least $1200 a month for rent


[13-Dec-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the population of draft age men was larger


[13-Dec-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So while going their hurt people


[13-Dec-19 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the effect didn't really dent boomers as a generation.


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It certainly didn't do what the great depression did.


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who grew up with the great depression, and later WWII, they knew what it was like to liv in poverty.


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
WWII had rationing


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
25% of sales in America were estimated to be illegal.


[13-Dec-19 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People melted down civil war monuments for metal to giv to the military.


[13-Dec-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People scraped bacon grease out of pans for the war effort.


[13-Dec-19 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam had nothing of the sort.


[13-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's that Great Depression plus WWII that led to the Grand Society stuff of FDR and later.


[13-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicare, medicaid, social security


[13-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and in the UK, the NHS


[13-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 50s, 60s, and 70s were pretty much all high-flying economic times


[13-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so the people that grew up then now don't really appreciate efforts to keep people living well.


[13-Dec-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, things started to take a turn in the 80s


[13-Dec-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
healthcare costs rose faster than life expectancies


[13-Dec-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile incarceration rates skyrokketed.


[13-Dec-19 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it's not a good idea to be imprisoning 1% of the population and using people with illnesses to fund private yachts for billionnaires.


[13-Dec-19 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, there's so many other things wrong at the same time.


[13-Dec-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the looks of things, it'll be a while still before the politicians actually address the problems.


[13-Dec-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are sorta trying, a bit.


[13-Dec-19 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want nothing changed.


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest thing will be McConnell and whether he gets reelected...


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Republicans can hold on without him, but they'd hav a different SML then


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well they are trying to get out of Afghanistan and Syria. at least they say they want to.


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
one who might not just constantly blokk every single piece of legislation the House puts out.


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just those two


[13-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The House has tried to get out of Yemen


[13-Dec-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell seemed to want to support it, but wouldn't really commit to it.


[13-Dec-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Dems aren't trying to get out of Syria, exactly.


[13-Dec-19 07:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> Republicans want nothing changed.
I read that it'll mess with them in the future, but so far, they seem invincible.


[13-Dec-19 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to try to support the Kurds.


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the inertia here is largely cause of voting being a huge hassle.


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(by design)


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
People didn't want the sons of immigrants voting in the 19th century.


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they made a bureaucratic nightmare called voter registration.


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And unlike the compulsory stuff of the UK or Australia


[13-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So why should we stay in syria and not yemen?


[13-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because in Syria, our role is to keep anti-IS forces safe from Turkey coming in to genocide them


[13-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
in Yemen, our role is selling missiles to the Saudis so they can destroy funerals and schoolbuses and other targets that are war crimes to be targets with precision.


[13-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but isn't Turkey still considered a US ally?


[13-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, which is why they wouldn't shoot at our troops


[13-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Russians in Syria are happy to shoot us every day of the week


[13-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we curbstomp them


[13-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Turkish troops are scared to end up politically isolated, they leave US troops alone.


[13-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having US troops around is thus extremely protective for the Kurds.


[13-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why the moment we abandoned the Kurds


[13-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they started getting stomped by Turkey


[13-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This abandonment of the Kurds was seen by most military leaders, congressmen, and people with brains who aren't Turkish, to be really scummy.


[13-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump did it without Congressional approval


[13-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but what else is new


[13-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but then how long should we stay in syria then? the place is a powder keg of warring factions. Wouldn't it be better to pull out before american lives get injured or we stumble into a war with iran or russia? Why not we have the UN step in with a peacekeeper force in syria to protect the kurds and other factions.


[13-Dec-19 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The presidency has basically usurped the power to declare war, and if Trump isn't impeached, it'll hav the power of the purse now too.


[13-Dec-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody "stumbles into" a war with Russia


[13-Dec-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia doesn't shoot you the moment you shoot up some disposable idiots they sent out to harrass you.


[13-Dec-19 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Russia has a veto on the UN security council


[13-Dec-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can prevent UN peacekeepers coming in to Syria forever.


[13-Dec-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no way to bypass their veto.


[13-Dec-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting our own troops there and choosing who gets to be there and who we shoot at is a very stable approach.


[13-Dec-19 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pulling out just reignites the violence.


[13-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
should we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan too? to insure violence doesn't reignite there as well?


[13-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possibly, but the way we've been operating there is problematic.


[13-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Kurds in Syria present a strong culturally-unified force that isn't interested in much sectarian conflict.


[13-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iraq has some as well...in their own province...that tried to declare independence and got stomped.


[13-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rest of Iraq is a mess.


[13-Dec-19 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Afghanistan is all mess.


[13-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
As to the way we've been operating, too much violence, not enuff infrastructure.


[13-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
These people just get into revenge cycles against us, and come from remote mountain areas with like no infrastructure.


[13-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you giv them all a McDonald's and a library, with free wifi, and a bunch of laptops they'll eventually all not hate us


[13-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that costs money.


[13-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
(also, roads, power lines, cell phone towers)


[13-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would rather there always be terrorists coming out of the woodwork to shoot


[13-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
dead terrorists mean votes.


[13-Dec-19 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Live pacifists do not.


[13-Dec-19 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dead terrorists are far cheaper to generate.


[13-Dec-19 07:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
those terrorists have to come from somewhere. not all of it is cycles of revenge or lack of roads and free wifi


[13-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well...it really is.


[13-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
We blow up their cousin, they hate us and vow revenge, bam.


[13-Dec-19 07:31 AM] jlun2#8758
the middle east seems like they are "united" in a way, but also hate each other.


[13-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not united


[13-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Kurds are one group, Shias another, Sunnis another, and then there's nationality divisions.


[13-Dec-19 07:32 AM] jlun2#8758
I blame media for referring them all just as "those muslims" as if they're a singular force


[13-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
mcdonalds is not going to cure someone that demands that you "convert or die." or die anyway because you are the "wrong kind of islam."


[13-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point


[13-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't change them


[13-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you change their son.


[13-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
their son is going to be taught their father's beliefs


[13-Dec-19 07:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they are fairly patriarchal


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
With alterations


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every culture has parents teach children


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the things around them change it beyond that.


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
when your father says "fuck the americans" when their son sees americans building roads and cellular towers for them, the son's gonna be like "no fuck you"


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just believe that Middle Easterners are set in their ways and the West is not.


[13-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally what's happening in the US with millennials vs boomers


[13-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
boomers are like "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" and millennials are like "no this isn't working fuck you boomers"


[13-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
it's only in the past few years that millennials have started actually vocalizing their discontent on a wider scale, mainly because boomers won't fucking shut up about the "old days" when everything was better


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
boomers have basically created every single problem that they're trying to pass off onto millennials


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
People change generation to generation


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you stop killing people


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
both perceived and actual problems


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and giv them all jobs at McDonald's


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
their sons aren't going to take revenge on you.


[13-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not a hard thing to get.


[13-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't know dude they seem pretty set in their ways with things like sharia law and stuff.


[13-Dec-19 07:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  I'm just curious is this a "western" thing, or do countries like China and Russia also have somewhat similar problems right now


[13-Dec-19 07:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
now yes not all islamic countries have sharia law.


[13-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but its still encouraged at a cultural level


[13-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The West had basically Sharia law ages ago


[13-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Culture CHANGES


[13-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
china did, until they suppressed it (they taught marxism in school, students started spreading discontent with the fact that china was capitalistic instead of socialist, chinese government arrested the students)


[13-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
stop assuming that just because they're Arabs, they can't change


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then WHY HAVEN'T THEY YET


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the Middle East has really shitty desert areas


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of lush european woodlands and prairies.


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
deserts don't slow down cultures


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't help that the west is also bombing them into the stone ages


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
uhhhhhhh


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes it fukking does


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
yeah they do???


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get HUGE FLOODS AND DROUGHTS


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
do you know what it's like living in a desert


[13-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That make people unable to liv in their homes


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think having to sell your daughter as a sex slave to survive is conducive to women's rights?


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why the first civilizations to form were around incredibly bountiful rivers


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
and not in the middle of bumfuck nowhere deserts like most of the middle east is now


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then why is it the middle east was a bastion of culture at one time


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
same as egypt


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they were still arid places back then too.


[13-Dec-19 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only because it had very good trade with neighbors


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe beat it strongly at that


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and why are they not now?


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
very specific parts of the middle east were really bastions of culture


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
with sailing


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got shafted on ocean access


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the ottoman empire still had a fine navy in 1492


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
the golden age of islam got destroyed prematurely by genghis khan too


[13-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if they really wanted ocean access they could've had it


[13-Dec-19 07:44 AM] jlun2#8758
All I'm thinking of right now is martian settlers becoming "barbaric" years later in the future now.


[13-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
islam would've likely had their renaissance centuries ahead of christianity if it hadn't been for genghis khan burning baghdad down to the ground


[13-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ottoman empire collapsed HARD in the 20th century.


[13-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It couldn't keep up with the world around it.


[13-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes but not in the 1400s


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
when the age of exploration started


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ottomans had to GO AROUND AFRICA


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a HUGE barrier


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they couldn't really hold land in the Carribean.


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they had access to the Indian ocean.


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
TO DO WHAT?


[13-Dec-19 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
FART AROUND IN SINGAPORE?


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The west had the fukking Americas


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there was more than just north and south america to discover


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, the reason North and South America were lucrative wasn't because they were undiscovered, "virgin" land


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
plus they could've pushed there way past spain back when the berbers had it.


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
IT WAS BECAUSE OUR DISEASES KILLED THE PEOPLE WHO COULD KEEP US FROM TAKING THE LAND


[13-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you went to fukking India, you know what would happen to you?


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd get annihilated by the natives.


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The British managed to take it over eventually


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they needed the might of their navy to do it


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ottomans couldn't compete with that.


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
India had islamic khanates running the show there.


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ottomans would've been laffed out of India


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it wasn't THAT wild and untamed


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they had cities and trade ports


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the fukking point


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had cities to STOP YOU FROM TAKING IT OVER


[13-Dec-19 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
AS IN


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
SO YOU COULDN'T BENEFIT YOURSELF


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you hav ANY concept of inqual opportunity?


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I put you on motherfukking antarctica as your start position in a game of civ


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
OBVIOUSLY you could just go to Australia


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
With your 2 hammers of production


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did the dutch have to conqure india to reach the east indies?


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no


[13-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everyone allying against you


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just being able to REACH the East indies doesn't make you a damn superpower


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Dutch got CREAMED btw


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had like no empire after barely any time


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think the UK and France, with Spain and Portugal as secondaries, were in the lead for colonization?


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but the ottomans had the empire and the navy in the 1400s


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint hint: which side of Europe are they on?


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
How much water must they cross to get to the Atlantic?


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] jlun2#8758
Sometimes I forget that just a century ago we still had empires.


[13-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they could've been a superpower just like spain did


[13-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Ottomans could not get to the easy areas to colonize reliably


[13-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just about any country could cut them off of vital areas.


[13-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK prevailed with its empire because it could just fukk off to the sea right from home.


[13-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, prior to deepwater navigation, you had to follow coastlines


[13-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even WITH deepwater navigation, things were very uncertain


[13-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Figuring out longitude was a HUGE issue for the UK


[13-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a long time, people had no fukking clue how far east/west they'd gone.


[13-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK put out a huge damn prize for it


[13-Dec-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually a guy realized that he could get clokks that are sufficiently accurate for so long to do it


[13-Dec-19 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(in fact, a large pokket watch could do it..for a third the price OF THE SHIP IT'S USED ON, but still)


[13-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, having that technology was a big deal that propelled the royal navy.


[13-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It meant less accidents, better sailing, etc.


[13-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, the Ottomans were disadvantaged in ways that increased over time.


[13-Dec-19 08:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/12/1-million-conservatives-signed-petition-netflixs-gay-jesus-film/

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Over 1 million conservatives signed a petition against Netflix’s...
One petition-signer called the film "a criminal offense," accusing it of anti-Christian "prejudice...
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[13-Dec-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
To find out who rules you, simply find out who you can't criticize.


[13-Dec-19 08:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/12/armenian-genocide-turkey-083744

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Senate defies earlier White House block to unanimously recognize A...
"America's non-response to the Turkish horrors established patterns that would be repeated," Sen. Bob Menendez said.
https://static.politico.com/63/7e/cd920be94a0e809cf55c5b643323/191212-bob-menendez-ap-773.jpg


[13-Dec-19 08:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Senate on Thursday unanimously passed a resolution recognizing the Armenian genocide in Turkey more than 100 years ago, over earlier objections from President Donald Trump.

The move amounted to a stern condemnation of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who has grown close to Russia in recent months and who criticized a similar resolution passed by the House. Moreover, the Senate advanced Turkish sanctions legislation on Wednesday, threatening to disrupt Trump's alliance with Erdoğan.


[13-Dec-19 08:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  is 1m technically a lot, or nah super niche?


[13-Dec-19 08:37 AM] jlun2#8758
> One defender of the film wrote on Twitter that Back Door’s 2018 Christmas special, The Last Hangover, followed Jesus and his disciples the morning after the Last Supper. In it, he writes, “Jesus was portrayed as a sadistic, homicidal, hedonistic drunkard who hated to pray and no one cared. Now that he’s harmless and gay, the world has fallen. It’s atrophying the brain.”
Nice to know even this crap happens in Brazil, instead of some weird American only thing


[13-Dec-19 08:38 AM] jlun2#8758
> Bolsonaro has said that he would never love his son if he came out as gay, that he would never have a gay son because his family has “a good education,” and he promised to ban any references to LGBTQ people at school saying that it’s a threat to the country’s Christian values.
I'm calling it right now; he probably has a secret male harem of boys.


[13-Dec-19 08:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure in this case, though the people with the petition pretty much just made the point of the films existance entirely


[13-Dec-19 08:41 AM] Yuri#4154
Aaaaand the centrists in the Labour party are already blaming Corbyn's policies for what happened tonight (even though they're pretty popular with the public)


[13-Dec-19 08:41 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm 90% sure Corbyn's replacement will be a centrist


[13-Dec-19 08:42 AM] Yuri#4154
You can say goodbye to having an actually left wing party in the UK for a good while


[13-Dec-19 08:43 AM] Yuri#4154
ffs


[13-Dec-19 08:43 AM] jlun2#8758
Forever because right wing is invincible.


[13-Dec-19 08:44 AM] Yuri#4154
If Brexshit wasn't a thing there's no way things would've turned out like this


[13-Dec-19 08:45 AM] Yuri#4154
Labour lost a lot of their seats in areas that voted leave in 2016


[13-Dec-19 08:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> If Brexshit wasn't a thing
I thought we were in a post truth society; even if Brexit never happened I'm sure the voters will believe it did.


[13-Dec-19 08:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or would have demanded a revote because the rich fuckers would have pounded it into their heads that it was a good thing


[13-Dec-19 08:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with likely russian backed propoganda to aid them


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] Yuri#4154
All in all, there was no way this would've turned out well - after backing the second referendum, Labour lost their leave voting seats in the north


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] Yuri#4154
If they wouldn't, they would lose their remain voters


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] Yuri#4154
It was a lose-lose situation


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how scottland is going to take this


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is now a joke


[13-Dec-19 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland has to leave in a hurry.


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Yuri#4154
SNP is certainly going to push hard for independence


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] jlun2#8758
With respect to the average citizen, what does Brexit even do to them


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Nothing


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Yuri#4154
It hurts them


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Yuri#4154
But the media convinced them it's good


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brexit means it's slightly harder for brown people to move in a mile away


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and much harder for you to get a job in France


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
or study in France


[13-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
or do anything of value in the rest of Europe


[13-Dec-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK becomes a shithole.


[13-Dec-19 08:49 AM] Yuri#4154
It doesn't matter if Brexshit fucks them over, as long as a minority of their choice will be fucked over harder


[13-Dec-19 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, conservative thinking is based entirely on making someone else suffer *more*.


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It literally doesn't matter if your country is a complete shithole


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] jlun2#8758
That's a weird way to define conservative. How did it became from maintaining status quo to "lets kill the other party!"


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just hav to hav someone put literally in actual sewers beneath it


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then it's okay, guys


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Fucking David Cameron is directly responsible for most of this mess


[13-Dec-19 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was NEVER EVER about maintaining status quo


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of conservatives as a force for keeping things from breaking is a fiction


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
their entire purpose is to restore the monarchy.


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "status quo" was feudalism.


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't like that the French Revolution happened.


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] Yuri#4154
David Cameron completely fucked up the remain campaign


[13-Dec-19 08:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  for basically all countries? huh


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Yuri#4154
And now he's probably sitting in a mansion somewhere and drinking champagne when the country goes to shit


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck him


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the UK, US, and most nearby countries.


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize, fundamentally people fall into two camps:


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) Outsiders are worth trusting, they might help us


[13-Dec-19 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
2) Outsiders should be murdered


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm probably going to move to Scotland


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Wait until they get their independence


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Yuri#4154
And be back in the EU in a few years


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is the "should be murdered" side


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the ancient days, it was basically the only side.


[13-Dec-19 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone murdered each other constantly.


[13-Dec-19 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something about modern society makes us murder each other less.


[13-Dec-19 08:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> Conservatism is the "should be murdered" side
"fantastic", given how being older makes people conservative apparently. time to magically decide to hate immigrants and women once reaching the age of 65


[13-Dec-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The French Revolution had people who think that MAYBE it's okay to not be a rich clergyman


[13-Dec-19 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and while they fukked up a lot, they managed to murder the clergy and nobility just enuff


[13-Dec-19 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So people were like OH SHIT WHAT IF THAT COMES HERE


[13-Dec-19 08:57 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck me. From this

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[13-Dec-19 08:57 AM] Yuri#4154
To this

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[13-Dec-19 08:58 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder are boomers easy to fool?


[13-Dec-19 08:59 AM] Yuri#4154
Labour did slightly better than the exit polls predicted, but not by much


[13-Dec-19 08:59 AM] Yuri#4154
203 seats vs the predicted 191


[13-Dec-19 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so the whole "don't trust outsiders" thing comes right with "hav a powerful guy in charge who's JUST LIKE ME and kills outsiders easy"


[13-Dec-19 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It only happens to *coincide* with maintaining status quo, because status quo up until recently was a king who could execute whoever spoke out against him.


[13-Dec-19 09:02 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  do you want to make a book about it? sounds like you know quite a bit to do so


[13-Dec-19 09:02 AM] jlun2#8758
serious suggestion


[13-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[13-Dec-19 09:03 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://lithub.com/ok-boomer-goes-from-meme-to-book-fodder-and-a-generation-sighs/>
I mean shit like this can become best sellers


[13-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm just putting things together from various sources.


[13-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What does this mean?


[13-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Books require being closer to the knowledge sources.


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] Yuri#4154
Let's see how the public likes the Tories after Brexshit goes to shit


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought journalistic integrity died tho @Nebbie


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you think anyone here can write a book on politics, you're out of your mind, pretty much.


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah it died


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to make a book sell well, it really needs some catch.


[13-Dec-19 09:05 AM] Yuri#4154
Who am I kidding, Boris could shoot someone on live TV and publicly tell everyone in the country to fuck off and they'd still vote for him


[13-Dec-19 09:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomers are invincible


[13-Dec-19 09:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Soon they'll cure death and rule forever


[13-Dec-19 09:06 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  :ponythinking:


[13-Dec-19 09:06 AM] Yuri#4154
Mark my words, the next Labour leader will be smeared by the media just as badly as Corbyn if not worse


[13-Dec-19 09:06 AM] Yuri#4154
No matter who it is


[13-Dec-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, fascism uses the media as its tool.


[13-Dec-19 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's much harder for the media to be used against it.


[13-Dec-19 09:12 AM] Yuri#4154
It's just so disheartening seeing it actually _work_


[13-Dec-19 09:13 AM] Yuri#4154
Literal lies and propaganda won this election


[13-Dec-19 09:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who electing who and what is the outcome?


[13-Dec-19 09:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri  I'm just curious can that be used forever


[13-Dec-19 09:14 AM] Yuri#4154
Conservatives won a (quite big) majority

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[13-Dec-19 09:15 AM] Yuri#4154
Which means they get to do whatever the fuck they want


[13-Dec-19 09:16 AM] Yuri#4154
Only silver lining is that the SNP did well


[13-Dec-19 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note, if you look at the arc above, it really isn't that huge a majority, but it's a parliamentary system, so if you get a majority, nobody can do anything against you, ever.


[13-Dec-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really problematic that these systems just break down into who can cross the finish line first.


[13-Dec-19 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without actually caring about the people.


[13-Dec-19 09:17 AM] Yuri#4154
We had a referendum about changing this in 2011


[13-Dec-19 09:18 AM] Yuri#4154
First Past the Post won against ranked-choice voting


[13-Dec-19 09:18 AM] Yuri#4154
67.90% to 32.10%


[13-Dec-19 09:25 AM] Yuri#4154
Also, if Labour goes centrist, the party's done


[13-Dec-19 09:25 AM] Yuri#4154
It'll definitely lose all the youth vote it gained since 2010


[13-Dec-19 09:26 AM] jlun2#8758
do young people even really vote


[13-Dec-19 09:27 AM] Yuri#4154
No way will all the young people be satisfied in choosing between Red Tories, blue Tories and orange Tories


[13-Dec-19 09:27 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[13-Dec-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just FPTP


[13-Dec-19 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a problem with how parliament is structured too.


[13-Dec-19 09:27 AM] Yuri#4154
Changing that would be a good first step though


[13-Dec-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it was ranked choice, then whoever gets majority can just fukk over the others.


[13-Dec-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a system fundamentally hostile to cooperation.


[13-Dec-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would help if coalitions ever really had power in the UK.


[13-Dec-19 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just too easy to form a single bloc that preys on the weakness of the rest.


[13-Dec-19 09:28 AM] Yuri#4154
But if ~~morons~~ people don't even want to change _that,_ there's no hope for any fundamental change


[13-Dec-19 09:29 AM] jlun2#8758
bbl; windows update again


[13-Dec-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, IRV actually is rather shitty, not as bad as FPTP, but close.


[13-Dec-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest problem is IRV is intended to prevent your vote from helping someone you prefer less.


[13-Dec-19 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this is actually a STRATEGIC thing


[13-Dec-19 09:29 AM] Yuri#4154
Seems like a large majority here likes getting fucked over though


[13-Dec-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So by preserving strategy, it goes against being a sane system.


[13-Dec-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically strongly discourages candidates that everybody likes but nobody loves


[13-Dec-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
in favor of polarizing ones.


[13-Dec-19 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And FPTP is the same but harder.


[13-Dec-19 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
With countries using voting systems entirely designed around candidates one faction loves that nobody else does...the results tend to be swingy and stupid as administrations change.


[13-Dec-19 09:31 AM] Yuri#4154
This country seems opposed to any electoral reform


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, most countries are.


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Yuri#4154
Jesus, you have no idea how much I want to get out of here


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worse in the US


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously if I had a heart attakk suddenly


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ambulance ride could bankrupt my family.


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whether or not I'd survive.


[13-Dec-19 09:32 AM] Yuri#4154
Any future I saw myself having here just disappeared into nothing in one night


[13-Dec-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom btw is on medicare and medicaid now


[13-Dec-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, they're designed to giv as little care as possible while appeasing people


[13-Dec-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, she has glaucoma


[13-Dec-19 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
eyes progressively deteriorate


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Yuri#4154
Maybe if the UK gets a taste of US' healthcare system it'll finally come to its senses


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Yuri#4154
But I'm not holding my breath


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
now, in order to get the correct care, she needs eye exams


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Yuri#4154
Tories would find a way to somehow pin the blame on Labour


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
however, eye exams are considered preventative care, not mandatory


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
so her medicaid coverage IIRC won't cover them


[13-Dec-19 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite them being necessary for her to get prescriptions or anything


[13-Dec-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So she has to get on medicare, but then there's like a $400 upfront fee to be on a certain part of it for like if you need tons of drugs


[13-Dec-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think she's getting on a different part of it, that will cover the eye exams


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, if I came down with similar conditions, I'd just be SoL


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'm not super disabled yet and I'm not old.


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh actually, my left eye developed minor double-vision some years ago


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Yuri#4154
A lot of Tories are actually blaming Labour for the 2008 financial crisis


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Yuri#4154
I shit you not


[13-Dec-19 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I havn't had an eye exam in like...12 years?


[13-Dec-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should be getting LASIK or something eventually, my right eye has terrible eyesight, left is okay for the most part.


[13-Dec-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this is America


[13-Dec-19 09:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my eye sight got slightly off a few years ago enough to disrupt my photography, I cant do shit about it because i cant afford eye exams, and my state locked medicaid behind an age wall


[13-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you havn't developed PTSD in Iraq, aren't old as fukk, your daddy doesn't hav a hospital wing named after him, and you aren't utterly crippled, medical care is a dream.


[13-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Yuri#4154
And people here voted for shit like this


[13-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[13-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Yuri#4154
They know Tories want to sell off the NHS


[13-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
part of it's that they don't hav a fukking clue what it's like


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
to know that if ANYTHING happens to you, you're bankrupt.


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a vid linked here about this


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Yuri#4154
But apparently Brexshit is more important


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
guy on the street asking people in the UK what they thought it costed to get stuff uninsured in the US


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
People started out saying like


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
ambulance ride, giving birth, inhaler all $100


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
ambulance ride is $2,500


[13-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
giving birth is $10,000 average


[13-Dec-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
inhalers are $350 IIRC


[13-Dec-19 09:40 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck me, Scotland really doesn't have a lot of time to get off this sinking ship


[13-Dec-19 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
epipens are $600 as well, so if you've got allergies, better be rich.


[13-Dec-19 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to move out of america but even that's too expensive


[13-Dec-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland should've declared independence 2 fukking years ago to stay in the EU


[13-Dec-19 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
As-is, it's boned.


[13-Dec-19 09:41 AM] Yuri#4154
SNP will fight _hard_ for it, no doubt


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, the whole UK situation is astounding


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
all we hear in the US is how stupid Boris is


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Yuri#4154
But now that Tories have a majority, it'll be difficult


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk was local UK media doing to slander Corbyn?


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Hold on


[13-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Lemme get a front page of one of the papers yesterday


[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Yuri#4154

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[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Imagine something like this


[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Every


[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Damn


[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Day


[13-Dec-19 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheesh


[13-Dec-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guess this is how V for Vendetta happens.


[13-Dec-19 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just need to edit that movie to contain smartphones, but with gov't lokks on them, and put in some stuff about Boris coming before the bioterrorism.


[13-Dec-19 09:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Hell, everyone with half a brain knows the papers are shit, but what the BBC was doing this election was atrocious


[13-Dec-19 09:47 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/e9lx0r/as_we_all_go_out_and_vote_today_lets_remind

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[13-Dec-19 09:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Impartial my ass


[13-Dec-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[13-Dec-19 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The BBC didn't used to be this bad


[13-Dec-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect Boris found a way to pull strings to get in place certain oversight it didn't used to hav.


[13-Dec-19 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making sure it supports him etc.


[13-Dec-19 09:49 AM] Yuri#4154
One day, BBC airs Corbyn getting a grilling from Andrew Neil


[13-Dec-19 09:49 AM] Yuri#4154
And then they show Boris fucking eating scones


[13-Dec-19 09:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Boris didn't do an Andrew Neil interview in the end


[13-Dec-19 09:51 AM] Yuri#4154
Pretty sure he's the only party leader _ever_ not to


[13-Dec-19 09:51 AM] Yuri#4154
And of course they didn't have the balls to empty chair him


[13-Dec-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maaaan https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/

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Investigation finds 88% of Tory ads misleading compared to 0% for ...
Over 5,000 Tory ads contained claims branded misleading by Full Fact.
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[13-Dec-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same story from the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50726500

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Election ads: 'Indecent, dishonest and untruthful'
Campaigners say fact checks of political ads must become legally required after a "fake news" election.
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[13-Dec-19 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They buried the lede.


[13-Dec-19 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It technically says that labour ads are truthful, but it's like waaaaaay down in the details.


[13-Dec-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically,


[13-Dec-19 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yuri, if you're still paying licence fee, don't.


[13-Dec-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Scottish people are stopping doing so


[13-Dec-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
ever since the referendum


[13-Dec-19 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They noticed the BBC has a definitive pro-gov't slant.


[13-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Yuri#4154
Holy shit, the Tories got +1.2% vote share compared to 2017, but +10% seats


[13-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Yuri#4154
I don't think the system works


[13-Dec-19 10:05 AM] Yuri#4154
And yeah, the BBC is basically the Tories' propaganda division now


[13-Dec-19 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah...FPTP in the UK works very badly.


[13-Dec-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's not that it's gerrymandered


[13-Dec-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that you get a lot of plurality wins.


[13-Dec-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll get like, 35% tory, 32% labour, 23% other


[13-Dec-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a tory win.


[13-Dec-19 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, Republicans might win on a 49% to a 47%, but even that's a little rare.


[13-Dec-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, vote splitting is in full effect in the UK


[13-Dec-19 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vote splitting is a big problem with FPTP, perhaps the biggest.


[13-Dec-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that having more parties representing your interests is harmful.


[13-Dec-19 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when people regularly see these plurality wins, they get jaded.


[13-Dec-19 10:15 AM] Yuri#4154
What worries me the most about this election isn't even Brexshit or five more years of Tory austerity


[13-Dec-19 10:15 AM] Yuri#4154
It's climate change


[13-Dec-19 10:15 AM] Yuri#4154

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[13-Dec-19 10:16 AM] Yuri#4154
The Tories won't do shit about it


[13-Dec-19 10:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Anyways, a lot of people (especially up north) voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party


[13-Dec-19 10:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Let's see what happens on the next GE after they get their faces eaten


[13-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm gonna go to sleep now, and will probably buy some Jack Daniels tomorrow and get drunk


[13-Dec-19 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Dec-19 11:09 AM] ononim#8141
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[13-Dec-19 11:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Dashed line are navy runners?


[13-Dec-19 11:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
United Ireland. Heh.


[13-Dec-19 11:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Unionist parties in Northern Ireland took a shit. :yay:


[13-Dec-19 04:03 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Dec-19 04:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's now up to every upright and honorable man to join the IRA International Brigades to assist the Gaelic world in eliminating the British


[13-Dec-19 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
hah. I'd be down with that. Would be a delicious twist of fate for them


[13-Dec-19 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Dec-19 04:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@PwnyPony yoooo can you imagine Northern Ireland just quitting the UK


[13-Dec-19 04:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not only would it be a victory for us i guess, but it would also be a massive loss of face for the tories


[13-Dec-19 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Elections are lovely


[13-Dec-19 04:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It could cost them an election, but now that they've proven themselves as unwilling to give up power as possible, they'll have to increasingly rely on fraud to keep themselves afloat


[13-Dec-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
LD got far more votes than last time, lost a load of seats


[13-Dec-19 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God i also hope Scotland breaks off


[13-Dec-19 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Conservatives barely gained any votes, relative to their size, but gained a shittonne of seats


[13-Dec-19 04:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
100% dibs the tories will refuse to grant Scotland any sort of second referendum in the coming years


[13-Dec-19 04:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They know they'll lose


[13-Dec-19 04:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And once Britain's economy comes crashing down...


[13-Dec-19 04:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
We must send guns to the UK


[13-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the articles have left the house and are headed for the senate


[13-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ffdf93f9ea109a1c3006eb7c4e46d029

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House gets 2 Trump impeachment charges after Judiciary vote
WASHINGTON (AP) — Impeachment charges against President Donald Trump went to the full House on Friday, following approval by the House Judiciary Committee. The House is expected to take up...
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[13-Dec-19 04:56 PM] illumnious#7938

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[13-Dec-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[13-Dec-19 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing else matters but Hong Kong


[13-Dec-19 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
clearly xD


[13-Dec-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was that even an official time poll or was that just today news running an opinion poll?


[13-Dec-19 04:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every company related to Time would've been banned in China for that


[13-Dec-19 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And something makes me suspect Time is owned by Disney...


[13-Dec-19 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
regardless of what that was, a chinese flashmob is hard to counter, besides just deleting the poll, which would be bad optics.


[13-Dec-19 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently not, was owned by Warner Bros until this year, now owned by some billionare


[13-Dec-19 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meredith corporation


[13-Dec-19 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Benioff

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Marc Benioff
Marc Russell Benioff (born September 25, 1964) is an American Internet entrepreneur with a net worth of $6.5 billion as of July 2019.  He is the founder, chairman and co-CEO of Salesforce, an enterprise cloud computing company. As of August 2019, he owned 4.14% of Salesforce ...
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[13-Dec-19 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently he owns most of the magazine brands in america


[13-Dec-19 05:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least he seems like one of the less evil billionares


[13-Dec-19 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
he's smart enough to stay out of the spotlight.


[13-Dec-19 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Meredith's leading national brands include PEOPLE, Better Homes & Gardens, InStyle, Allrecipes, REAL SIMPLE, SHAPE, Southern Living and Martha Stewart Living.


[13-Dec-19 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they likely don;t dip their toes into political waters except for maybe time magazine


[13-Dec-19 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re too busy capitalizing on walmart;s products


[13-Dec-19 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfTfKauh0EA

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WATCH SOON: Trump meets with Paraguay's president after House pane...
President Trump meets with Paraguayan President Mario Abdo Benitez at the White House after the House Judiciary Committee approved two articles of impeachment against President Trump accusing him of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Read more: https://wapo.st/2ryYKM...
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[13-Dec-19 05:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/house-judiciary-republicans-get-shamed-by-a-presidential-historian-for-not-taking-impeachment-seriously/?utm_source=push_notifications

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House Judiciary Republicans get shamed by a presidential historian...
Following the House Judiciary Committee’s historic vote, sending two articles of impeachment against Donald Trump to the House floor, presidential historian Tim Naftali broke down why this impeachment was both important and different from previous ones. Sitting on the panel...
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[13-Dec-19 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Dec-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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'Are we the Baddies?' Mitchell and Webb Funny Nazi Scetch
'Are we the Baddies?' Mitchell and Webb Funny Nazi Scetch Full scene high quality world war two humour hilarious hitler ss allies WWII comedy
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[13-Dec-19 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/e9nhnm/valve_removes_nazi_steam_profiles_after_german/

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[13-Dec-19 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
> Damn, there goes half the Company of Heroes community

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[13-Dec-19 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I hope they'll delete stalinist profiles next :D


[13-Dec-19 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
and the games die, because there goes 95% of their community instead


[13-Dec-19 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
although I guess Russia would never complain about that, since that's basicly official idol trend now


[13-Dec-19 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
when you unironically defend nazis you might want to consider if you're the one who's wrong


[13-Dec-19 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders being excluded from media coverage https://i.redd.it/lyhj8acub8441.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
(he had 15% in this poll)


[13-Dec-19 05:33 PM] Yuri#4154
Time for Plan B

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[13-Dec-19 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Up the ra


[13-Dec-19 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Occupy Buckingham Palace, overthrow the monarchy and the tories (in minecraft)


[13-Dec-19 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Take the corgies!


[13-Dec-19 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
liberate them and the sheep!


[13-Dec-19 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/watchmyshaw/status/1205514677830049792?s=20

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The House Judiciary Committee approved articles of Impeachment. 
23 -- yes.
17 -- no. 

I'm so fucking proud to be a Democrat today. #ImpeachmentVote
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[13-Dec-19 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
such democracy. Much suprise. Wow.


[13-Dec-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they technically got to vote of their own free will, the republicans entirely said no, and the democrats said yes, and it was a split between them


[13-Dec-19 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta keep up the appearances.


[13-Dec-19 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, considering one party and the president want a monarchy, it;s kind of hard to have abipartisan approach to things at this point


[13-Dec-19 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if only we werent stuck in a two party nightmare


[13-Dec-19 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
so what do democrats want then? A bipartizan approach is dead and gone. Republicans threw out the rulebook and replaced it with their own.


[13-Dec-19 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
so what now?


[13-Dec-19 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
2 parties have failed dramatically, yeah.


[13-Dec-19 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
DEmocrats want a democratic republic, where the executive doesnt weild this much individual power, the judiciary branch isnt the executives bitch, and the congress does what the congress is supposed to do, or a social democracy where everything lines up with the former but with the added benefit of using taxes to actually fix shit and run things properly instead of funneling it all into defense and tax cuts for corporate daddy-kun


[13-Dec-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you get the democrats who want to do wall streets bidding but less invasivelly than the republicans


[13-Dec-19 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats are kind of a mess rightnow


[13-Dec-19 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a painful, painful mess


[13-Dec-19 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, that... actually does sound like a democratic process.


[13-Dec-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans basically want the same shit that the tory party in the uk wants


[13-Dec-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
power and cash at the expense of the country


[13-Dec-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for them is they put all their eggs in one very gold plated basket while kicking out anyone in their party with any common sense left


[13-Dec-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now that very gold plated basket has started smashing the eggs one by one and they have no where else to take those eggs, so it;s either play along with the golden basket or have their egg smashed under a moving bus


[13-Dec-19 06:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/RepCohen/status/1205528221334278144?s=20

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[13-Dec-19 06:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Unionist paramilitaries threating "resistance" over Bojo the clowns deal. Who the fuck are they going to "resist"? The county they claim to defend? Nationalist parties that also don't want Bojos deal? Seems they just want to go back to ussuns vs themuns.


[13-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mitch's already said he'll be acting like a lawyer for the white house


[13-Dec-19 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@PwnyPony troubles 2.0 baby


[13-Dec-19 06:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Who do I send guns too


[13-Dec-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ireland and scottland


[13-Dec-19 06:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Me. I am what they call "a dirty half and half" and an atheist. They will be coming at me from all sides.


[13-Dec-19 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/13/kentucky-governor-matt-bevin-pardons-killer-ties-fundraiser/2635847001/

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[13-Dec-19 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-may-sit-out-the-presidential-debates-because-hes-afraid-the-debate-moderators-will-be-mean-to-him-report/

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On Thursday, The New York Times reported that President Donald Trump is considering blowing off the presidential debates in 2020, no matter who the Democrats select as their nominee. His reason? He distrusts the Commission on Presidential Debates, which oversees and plans the...
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[13-Dec-19 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Dec-19 07:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[13-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
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[13-Dec-19 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Dec-19 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Dec-19 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
the effects of trump's tax cuts


[13-Dec-19 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.france24.com/en/20191212-us-court-suspends-naming-restrictions-on-fake-meat-firms


[13-Dec-19 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
AOC says we live in a society https://i.redd.it/t0ie3qtul9441.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Dec-19 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Loss (of the NHS to American health insurance companies)


[13-Dec-19 07:49 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I am really "excited" for automation though, since chaos


[13-Dec-19 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
also autonomous fruit picker


[13-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I actually absolutely agree with that post Byte.


[13-Dec-19 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/13/biden-warns-democrats-about-results-of-uk-election-084359

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Biden warns that Boris Johnson's victory shows dangers of parties ...
The leading 2020 contender told donors that the UK election holds lessons for the White House race.
https://static.politico.com/8b/e1/0925532c408eb475d5627e738cd2/191213-joe-biden-gty-773.jpg


[13-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Opponent#3498
'free' manual/low-skilled labor is ultimately a _good_ thing. And the economy would, in a non-shittier world, adjust and adapt to reflect that.


[13-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, but much corporate profits :/


[13-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Opponent#3498
(bonus points for that being AOC which I'd disagree with on principle if I was into that kind of thing)


[13-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELmaletXkAA5v79.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
check out that fucking sampling error tho


[13-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
±11.7%


[13-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are these real


[13-Dec-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[13-Dec-19 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
if they are trying to be fair, I have no idea how they are fucking up this much


[13-Dec-19 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The sampling error


[13-Dec-19 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also if you're not terrified that Sanders could be an American Corbyn you're blinded by your like of him tbh


[13-Dec-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it seems less like an error and more like news headlines are trying to ignore that sanders exists


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
the entire poll is worthless


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
who's Corbyn?


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
the error is so huge that you literally can't come to a conclusion in that poll


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
corbyn is the labor party leader in the UK


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
was


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
he resigned


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
he resigned after labor lost again, though it did make gains


[13-Dec-19 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably the most inefectual party leader of all time


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
idk much about how effective corbyn is, but if bernie was given the reins, I get the feeling he could do a lot more


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
it's just a matter of actually getting him the nomination


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Corbyn refused to say he'd stop brexit or hold another vote on it


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
the DNC doesn't want bernie


[13-Dec-19 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
yeah that was probably a dumb idea


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
he should've taken his stance


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He also stayed mum during all the scandals rocking his party


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DNC changed their rules


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What more do you want ffs


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dnc doesnt want anyone short of biden or bloomburg since they;re the money candidates


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
they still don't want bernie lol


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
even if they made it fairer


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie Bros would rather have 50+ years of progressive work destroyed than vote for a moderate who at least would protect it


[13-Dec-19 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
warren would be barely tolerable, they want biden or bloomberg or buttigieg


[13-Dec-19 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Corporations hate Warren the most


[13-Dec-19 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd vote warren,  but biden would absolutely not protect anything if wallstreet didnt want it protected


[13-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
yes, but she's in the center economically, bernie's economically left, everyone else is economically center-right (neoliberalism) which is business as usual


[13-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
the DNC is neoliberal


[13-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Business as usual or "just destroy everything"


[13-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
yes, business as usual is the self-destructive path of maximized profit margins


[13-Dec-19 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are people incapable of balancing risk anymore or something


[13-Dec-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact that there is a bad candidate does not mean we are forbidden from choosing good candidates


[13-Dec-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
in the end I am going to vote for _any_ democrat who gets the nomination


[13-Dec-19 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
but I would prefer to have Sanders


[13-Dec-19 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the biggest risk they assess is profitability at the moment


[13-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
warren's basically pulled back on everything that made her stand out in the past month or so too, talking in half-measures that yeah, protect what gains have been made, but doesn't actually do anything to push the envelope


[13-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
the biggest one being medicare for all


[13-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Billionaire Tears


[13-Dec-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
but yeah, the best choice by far is bernie of the democrats we currently have running, but realistically, the best case is that warren gets nominated, and the worst case is biden gets nominated


[13-Dec-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
with buttigieg being one step above biden


[13-Dec-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's really well liked in the Midwest tho


[13-Dec-19 08:27 PM] Crow#5457
and the liberal media does seem like it's making an effort to put bernie down as much as possible


[13-Dec-19 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a lot


[13-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
bernie is liked?


[13-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete


[13-Dec-19 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/lisam8907/status/1205310309495451648

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[13-Dec-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/655133830566379540/FB_IMG_1576249952922.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/655133831141130240/mk1fwpxgne441.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmm yes sounds like a smear campaign to me


[13-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/kRX1DLp

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Wtf
https://i.imgur.com/E5oZpE8h.jpg

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[13-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
a very chinese thing to make :P


[13-Dec-19 09:14 PM] illumnious#7938
:WTF: https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1205576166708514816

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The MAGAlorian https://t.co/Sy26A6d59a
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[13-Dec-19 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
:ohgeez02:


[13-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
they're trying so desperately


[13-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
guess someone told me it's 'hip and cool' to post memes but not that looking desperate while doing so kills the effort.


[13-Dec-19 09:28 PM] illumnious#7938
In the meantime Obama is doing something for the future https://twitter.com/obamafoundation/status/1189242996946026496

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The Obama Foundation (@ObamaFoundation)
https://twitter.com/obamafoundation/status/1189242996946026496
Take a tour with @BarackObama through the future Obama Presidential Center on Chicago’s South Side. https://t.co/n5n6sxRz1E
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[13-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
I muted this channel yet I keep getting notifications


[13-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
What happens if I unmute this channel?


[13-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We storm your house, raid your fridge, and sit in your room to bicker about Trump until you call the cops


[13-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The terrorists win.


[13-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They threatened to destroy all doritos if we don't make gamer girl pee free.


[13-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Okay reverse psychology didn't work, let's see when I mute it anyway


[13-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was probably a stukk boolean


[13-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
meaning you changed it, but it didn't actually catch


[13-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
so unmuting then muting will probably make it work.


[13-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very annoying problem in software.


[13-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Okay, I didn't see that message so you're right


[13-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Thank you


[13-Dec-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
[x]


[13-Dec-19 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
this was related to discord's api crash


[13-Dec-19 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
when the api crashes the client receives notifications for all channels


[13-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, so for the duration, lt was getting ALL notifications regardless, just not finding that things were turned off?


[13-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Must only mute this one channel.


[13-Dec-19 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
also mutes are not stored as a boolean


[13-Dec-19 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought that for someone who's done this kind of table design that this would be more obvious


[13-Dec-19 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
the mute is the _presence of a row_


[13-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, I just was thinking mutes would be stored clientside entirely and so it'd be done with something like a file listing muted channels (not necessarily booleans, but close), but I was of course forgetting we're talking about a service predicated on being the same across devices.


[13-Dec-19 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
you're talking about a company that's piss poor at managing redundancy so it shouldn't come as a surprise they chose to do it in a stupid way


[13-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[13-Dec-19 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/emergmeddr/status/1205485397985378310

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https://twitter.com/emergmeddr/status/1205485397985378310
Damian Green Tory MP saying on @lbc that we all need to start paying towards an insurance type system to pay for our care.

And there it is.

That is what we are going to get.

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[13-Dec-19 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There it is


[13-Dec-19 10:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇬🇧 🔫


[13-Dec-19 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
Old article, but searching conservatism gave https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/11/22/at-yale-we-conducted-an-experiment-to-turn-conservatives-into-liberals-the-results-say-a-lot-about-our-political-divisions/

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[13-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/474517-supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-trump-appeals-in-fight-over-financial

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Supreme Court takes up fight over Trump financial records
The Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear appeals from President Trump in three cases involving efforts to gain access to his financial records, setting up a landmark separation of powers showdown.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scouts_120219gn_lead.jpg


[13-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy.


[14-Dec-19 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/jonrog1/status/1155487587475152897

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[14-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
>When the UK hates a few pakistanis more than Irish reunification


[14-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
:bigbrain:


[14-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the power of the media.


[14-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
actual threat level becomes practically irrelevant.


[14-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The United Kingdom of England and Wales will be hilarious.


[14-Dec-19 12:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What will be really interesting is when they change London Derry back to Derry.  :twismug:


[14-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking completely expected, but hopefully SCOTUS rules early and says that no, you *can* even indict a sitting president.


[14-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
On another note, I've noticed another pattern on twitter


[14-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
a talking point of "Democrat House districts are poorly maintained", even going at the state level.


[14-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like people believe that House reps are governors of their district


[14-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reeks of Russia.


[14-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Few House reps I have met are kinda arrogant.


[14-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They really do act like they are mini governors.


[14-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I met Kit Bond at the airport once. Pretty much the closest contact I've had with a politician that wasn't super local, other than the House reps


[14-Dec-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://bitterwinter.org/all-house-churches-must-be-eliminated/

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CCP Officials: All House Churches Must Be Eliminated
Refusing to be controlled by the government, house churches are deemed illegal and are suppressed in the name of eliminating "gangs and evil forces."
https://bitterwinter.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/The-two-meeting-venues-of-Guangming-House-Church-are-sealed-off.jpg


[14-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no God but the Party.


[14-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more than that


[14-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
Soviets did the same thing, albeit more directly.


[14-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they require specifically signing on with their party's church


[14-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
anything outside that gets torn down


[14-Dec-19 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want religion, but their own controlled version.


[14-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
well, yes, again, like Soviets. They never named their thing a religion, in fact, vocally they were very strongly atheist (power of Man and all that), but realistically it had all the markings of one.


[14-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it makes sense. There might come a time where Social Credit System will substitute any other moral or legal framework.


[14-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but for now, many approaches have to be considered.


[14-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and I think chinese learned from their efforts. Cause the Soviets couldn't make it happen. The technology wasn't there, the size of the land made it hard to really control for anyone who tried, the population was extremely opposed to giving up traditions, especially as radically as the earliest Lenin projects seemed to imply. Chinese don't have those issues.


[14-Dec-19 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
An analysis of leveling applicable to the GOP https://youtu.be/e-2WZsP6LA0

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false equivalents | qualiasoup & theramintrees [cc]
A reflection on the use of false equivalence and ‘levelling’ tactics, with special reference to the recent appalling developments in Brunei. 
You can support the channel at: https://www.patreon.com/TheraminTrees
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It’s always the same with these bogus eq...
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[14-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Robot_Bastard/status/1155800213304610818

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@jonrog1 GF: sssssennnnnd meeee baaaaaack
ME: but grandfather, you were in hell
GF: noooo, YOUUUUU’RE innnn hellllll
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[14-Dec-19 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
They're doing it to our boy

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[14-Dec-19 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's washington examiner


[14-Dec-19 03:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Why are Jewish leaders afraid of left politics?


[14-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They...aren't?


[14-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right just doesn't like the idea that people could attakk its support of Israel while being buddy-buddy with Jews


[14-Dec-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right wants to kill the Jews, ally Israel


[14-Dec-19 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left wants to ally the Jews, tear down Israel


[14-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way, BDS stuff can't be prevented


[14-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-BDS stuff is functionally violative of the First Amendment


[14-Dec-19 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which protects even people who would do it because they dislike Jews themselves


[14-Dec-19 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/13/he-planning-rig-impeachment-trial-mcconnell-vows-total-coordination-trump-senate

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'He Is Planning to Rig the Impeachment Trial': McConnell Vows 'Tot...
"The jury—Senate Republicans—are going to coordinate with the defendant—Donald Trump—on how exactly the kangaroo court is going to be run."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/trump_mcconnell_2.jpg


[14-Dec-19 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Flagrantly corrupt


[14-Dec-19 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Makes South America look like a leading region of political integrity


[14-Dec-19 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember when he said he wouldn't vote to dismiss the articles the second they landed on his doorstep? Remember when no one believed him?


[14-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
explain nebbie. how is it the right wants to kill the jews but save isreal


[14-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and the left wants to do the opposite


[14-Dec-19 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
the jews in israel are killing muslims in palestine


[14-Dec-19 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
(this is a war crime)


[14-Dec-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
The right supports this behavior by Israel and so they fund it and ban criticism of Israel


[14-Dec-19 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
The left doesn't because it's a war crime but doesn't have instinctive hatred for Jews


[14-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but aren't they firing rockets into people's homes and offices? shouldn't they have the right and power to prevent them from firing missiles into peoples homes?

also I was asking nebbie. but thanks for your input


[14-Dec-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
You may be unclear on who is violating whose sovereignty


[14-Dec-19 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
And amazingly it's not the muslims


[14-Dec-19 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Naziyahoo and his gang of corrupt conservatives are openly doing this


[14-Dec-19 05:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they doesn't make it right to go after civilian targets by firing indiscriminately with rockets. 
Also depends on how far back you want to go on sovereign claims.


[14-Dec-19 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
they're bombing out entire buildings and killing dozens for a couple of people firing a shitty homemade rocket that can't get past the defense system anyway


[14-Dec-19 05:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
technically it was the Romans that transplanted the Palestinians there after displacing the jews.


[14-Dec-19 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
you're a shitty person if you think that killing dozens of people for the actions of a few is justified


[14-Dec-19 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
killing is wrong period


[14-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
sure, but you're not gonna get around the fact that there's a non-zero chance of there being a point when you might have to kill to survive


[14-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I agree. but I also believe a country should be able to defend itself


[14-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right is openly anti-semitic but regularly says being against Israel killing muslims is anti-semitic as a projectionary shield.


[14-Dec-19 05:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but we are going off topic to my question


[14-Dec-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left generally is okay with jews but doesn't want them killing muslims.


[14-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put another way, nobody on the left thinks less of Bernie because he's Jewish


[14-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of people on the right do.


[14-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I never thought less of him for being jewish


[14-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll also regularly see stories accusing the left of being anti-semitic for disapproval of what Israel's doing.


[14-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
in fact that really doesn't play a role in my view of him


[14-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well plenty of Trump voters do not think very highly of Jews.


[14-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Trump has family married to jews though


[14-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of them buy into conspiracy theories about them.


[14-Dec-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but that doesn't stop his voters.


[14-Dec-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Hitler was sufficiently Jewish for the Nazis to put him in a camp.


[14-Dec-19 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but such info was suppressed at the time)


[14-Dec-19 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives also get off to people that they hate telling them that their hate is justified


[14-Dec-19 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Hitler killing himself was clearly his own final solution


[14-Dec-19 05:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
could you show examples of people in the mainstream right attacking bernie for his jewish heritage?


[14-Dec-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
... that's literally what started this whole discussion of jews


[14-Dec-19 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
there's an image not even 30 lines up


[14-Dec-19 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.insider.com/baby-boomers-are-more-sensitive-than-millennials-large-study-finds-2019-12

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https://www.insider.com/baby-boomers-are-more-sensitive-than-millennials-large-study-finds-2019-12
Baby boomers are more sensitive than millennials, according to the...
People tend to become less narcissistic with age, but older generations are still more narcissistic than younger ones, researchers found.
https://image.insider.com/5df25f1f79d7573bdc4e0e76?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Dec-19 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Millenials are destroying the narcissism industry


[14-Dec-19 05:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then show it again please. plus additional examples


[14-Dec-19 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
that line implies you don't actually care either way, so no, I don't think I will


[14-Dec-19 05:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no i care. its just i don't want to scroll back to find it


[14-Dec-19 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/xcfsqa3tee441.jpg "You are not the capitalist. You are the capital."

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https://i.redd.it/xcfsqa3tee441.jpg


[14-Dec-19 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
a capitalist is a business owner


[14-Dec-19 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here you go https://www.minnpost.com/national/2019/08/the-nrcc-is-accusing-democrats-of-antisemitism-including-jewish-members-of-congress/

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Gabe Schneider
https://www.minnpost.com/national/2019/08/the-nrcc-is-accusing-democrats-of-antisemitism-including-jewish-members-of-congress/
The NRCC is accusing Democrats of antisemitism — including Jewis...
Jewish groups are concerned about increasing politicization of accusations of antisemitism.
https://www.minnpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Emmer2018ElectionNight640b.jpg


[14-Dec-19 05:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
alright. any others?


[14-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425907-gop-rep-accuses-dems-of-empowering-anti-semitism

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425907-gop-rep-accuses-dems-of-empowering-anti-semitism
GOP lawmaker accuses Dems of 'empowering' anti-Semitism
A GOP lawmaker on Thursday accused House Democrats of "empowering" anti-Semitism by not speaking out against the boycott, divest and sanctions (BDS) movement.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/zeldinlee_120517gn_lead.jpg


[14-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
is that all?


[14-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so far both of these are more about the right claiming the left are antisemits than anything about republicans hating on jews for being jews


[14-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Before we move on to the second aspect of that


[14-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
consider what they are *saying* here.


[14-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're saying that to oppose Israel's actions as a nation as anti-semitic.


[14-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And accusing any Democrat who doesn't leap on that as being such.


[14-Dec-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to the second aspect


[14-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/15/ilhan-omar-aipac-republicans-anti-semitism/

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https://theintercept.com/2019/02/15/ilhan-omar-aipac-republicans-anti-semitism/
Six GOP House Members Who Need to Resign for Anti-Semitism Before ...
Trump wants Ilhan Omar to resign from Congress over purportedly anti-Semitic remarks. Why hasn’t Trump asked for these six Republicans to resign, too?
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2019/02/Gop-feature-1550183092.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[14-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/nyregion/rockland-county-gop-video.html

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By Rebecca Liebson
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/nyregion/rockland-county-gop-video.html
Uproar Over Anti-Semitic Video Produced by Republicans in N.Y. County
The video became a flash point in the fight over real-estate development by the ultra-Orthodox Jewish population.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/08/31/nyregion/31hasidic-rockland-print/29rocklandvideo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[14-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/16/stephen-miller-white-supremacy-republican-party

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Stephen Miller is no outlier. White supremacy rules the Republican...
Republican voters made Trump the white-supremacist-in-chief. That’s why a resignation from Miller wouldn’t change much
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6b146506063ccdc12e8e0f7eed7c517ab8850264/0_166_2763_1659/master/2763.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&enable=upscale&s=a62a08a2868118743a0744e10db8fdb6


[14-Dec-19 06:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
isn't Miller the ICE guy?


[14-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senior Policy Advisor


[14-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump pulled him from Breitbart.


[14-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
most of those in the first article are mostly about republican's criticizing george soros for being george soros


[14-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
"George Soros is supposed to be Jewish but you wouldn't know it from the damage he inflicted on Israel and the fact that he turned on fellow Jews & helped take the property that they owned."


[14-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean to say


[14-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
that a false accusation


[14-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
that a 14-year-old Soros was a nazi collaborator


[14-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
which attempts to paint him as disloyal to his race


[14-Dec-19 06:11 AM] illumnious#7938
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[14-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
isn't a racial argument?


[14-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, the first and second aspect are tied together


[14-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what this is about


[14-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans aren't just saying "kill the jews" on its own


[14-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will go after prominent jews and accuse them of disloyalty to their race


[14-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about slandering people they don't like *using* their race


[14-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just because he was 14 doesn't mean he didn't participate or condone it. both the soviet union and the nazi party encouraging children to be stalwart eyes and ears for them. 

while I haven't looked into it deeply just because of his young age doesn't mean the accusation doesn't hold any merit.


[14-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was 14 at the END of the fukking war


[14-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The accusation is complete and utter nonsens


[14-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And do you know what Soros ACTUALLY did?


[14-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He and his family saved themselves and many other jews from the Nazis.


[14-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because his father was in charge of the family and told him to not comply.


[14-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So outside of that one example in the first article. what about the many others listed?
Also the second article is pay walled.


[14-Dec-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the NY times, get a JS blokker.


[14-Dec-19 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
may I also ask a question? outside of the internet when was the last time you met someone on the right? seen one or talked to one in person?


[14-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Including family, today.


[14-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
“it’s not that Jews are bad, it’s just they are the head of the Jewish mafia in the United States. They run Uber, they run the health care, they’re going to scam you, they’re going to hurt you.”


[14-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is from Gaetz


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or wait


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
from Jones, hold on


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, the more serious connection was right above that


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
“He’s not a Holocaust denier; he’s not a white supremacist. Those are unfortunate characterizations of him.”


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was the bit Gaetz said


[14-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
in regards to a Holocaust denier


[14-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sheesh this is such a rabbithole


[14-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This Chuck Johnson guy is...a piece of work


[14-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/troll-charles-johnson-banned-from-twitter-207688

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Troll Charles Johnson banned from Twitter
Charles Johnson, a California based blogger and well-known political troll, has been permanently banned from Twitter after asking for donations to help "take out" an activist who's been protesting the recent police shootings in Baltimore and Ferguson.
https://static.politico.com/da/f5/44342c424c68b675719324b1106b/politico.jpg


[14-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the meat of it's here https://forward.com/fast-forward/384980/republican-congressman-brought-holocaust-denier-to-capitol-meeting/

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https://forward.com/fast-forward/384980/republican-congressman-brought-holocaust-denier-to-capitol-meeting/
Republican Congressman Brought Holocaust Denier To Capitol Meeting
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher brought Chuck C. Johnson, a Holocaust denier and alt-right activist, to a meeting with Sen. Rand Paul about Julian Assange.
https://images.forwardcdn.com/image/1090x480/center/images/cropped/dana-rohrabacher-1507827003.jpg


[14-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also um, 'In January, House Republicans agreed to remove Rep. Steve King from two House committees after the Iowa Republican was quoted telling the New York Times, “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”'


[14-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
also why is it you spell things with two k's again?


[14-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're saying this isn't evidence of anti-semitism?


[14-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/26/13062212/steve-king-geert-wilders-frauke-petry

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Rep. Steve King is hanging out with the German far right and tweet...
"Cultural suicide by demographic transformation must end."
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[14-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, at this point


[14-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
did you even READ the Intercept article?


[14-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I knew at least two in there were about George Soros from the getgo but like


[14-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're trying to DEBUNK IT, remember


[14-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I didn't read it" isn't a good reason to say it's bunk.


[14-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I admit, I skimmed it


[14-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
relying on its overall claim to be carried


[14-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
but


[14-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
why are you arguing like this?


[14-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're questioning things you don't seem to understand.


[14-Dec-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's reasonable curiosity, and then there's "repeat what your sources say to me in detail because I can't be bothered to investigate when you actually hav something to bakk up your claim"


[14-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
again why do you use two k's in your spelling?


[14-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
c's redundant.


[14-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and why is c's redundant?


[14-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the evidence IMO seems rather overwhelming


[14-Dec-19 06:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop tring to change the subject


[14-Dec-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Republicans are actually the sort that care about jews and aren't anti-semitic at all


[14-Dec-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav a very, very funny way of showing it


[14-Dec-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
involving lavish parties with holocaust deniers


[14-Dec-19 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
espousing white natinalism in office


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there was another guy on that list that just so happen to speak to a group he was invited to. therefore he's now a racist.


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and constantly attakking wealthy jews, but not similarly-wealthy nonjews nearly as much.


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that wasn't exactly a strong case for him as well.


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which one is that?


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steve Scalise?


[14-Dec-19 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes


[14-Dec-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing you left out


[14-Dec-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the group was white nationalist


[14-Dec-19 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't just like, speak at some college with a bad president or something.


[14-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was invited to a white nationalist convention


[14-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, an event whose express purpose is to espose white nationalism


[14-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and was asked to speak there


[14-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
and accepted that.


[14-Dec-19 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if I'm ever invited to any child-raping conventions and I get up on the podium, I'm not really guilty of supporting child rape, etc.


[14-Dec-19 06:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you know of any?


[14-Dec-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I do not.


[14-Dec-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am pointing out the flaw in your logic here.


[14-Dec-19 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Accepting an invitation to speak at an event absolutely condones the message of the event.


[14-Dec-19 06:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but suppose he was invited to a nambla meeting. and A didn't do enough research beforhand or B knew who they were but opted to go anyway to either reach out to them or hear their side?


[14-Dec-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he didn't do the fukking research to find out what NAMBLA stood for, that shit is on him, and he better explain that pretty well.


[14-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so if he was buddy-buddies with NAMBLA's founder and likened himself to said founder.


[14-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like I'm pretty sure the guy fukking knew what the event was for.


[14-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
As to the NYT article


[14-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
`Dark clouds roll in while ominous orchestral music swells in a video posted on Wednesday night by the Rockland County Republican Party.

Large text flashes slowly across the screen warning that “a storm is brewing” and “if they win, we lose.”

The “they” are the ultra-Orthodox Jewish residents of the villages and towns just northwest of New York City, where tension has been steadily increasing between rapidly growing Hasidic enclaves and the surrounding secular and non-Jewish communities.

The anti-Semitic video was widely denounced by Democrats. Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said in a statement, “This type of attack and incitement against the Hasidic community is the very definition of discrimination and anti-Semitism.”`


[14-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a bunch of other shit involved, but basically


[14-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was some hubbub about a jewish community getting permission to build high-rises.


[14-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And NY Republicans were on fire about it.


[14-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't matter, criticism doesn't reach the larger GOP base, and when it does it's filtered down by FOX, OAN, and Breitbart as "owning the libs"


[14-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weirdly, they never raised a peep about any other communities getting permission to build housing.


[14-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's more


[14-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the actual jews being accused weren't united in support of the project


[14-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the video called them out over it


[14-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it sounds more like they didn't think the video through and just wanted something dramatic to air


[14-Dec-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That still doesn't fukking explain why they targeted jews


[14-Dec-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like saying the US military "wanted to make a statement with that missile" after a small town that had nothing to do with the military conflict was annihilated.


[14-Dec-19 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
How fukking hard is it not to be racist?


[14-Dec-19 06:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
about scalise, was a transcript ever released of his speech to this group? what questions he answered?


[14-Dec-19 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it was.


[14-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
never underestimate a person's ability to do something stupid and not think it through


[14-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was in 2002


[14-Dec-19 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
'“It’s hard to believe, given David Duke’s reputation in Louisiana, that somebody in politics in Louisiana wasn’t aware of Duke’s associations with the group and what they stand for,” said Rep. Joaquin Castro (Tex.), a rising star in the Democratic Party who is considered among the most prominent Hispanics in Congress. “If that’s the case and he agreed to join them for their event, then I think it’s a real test for Speaker Boehner as to whether congressman Scalise should remain in Republican leadership,” Castro said in a phone interview.'


[14-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
was Castro in the meeting?


[14-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did he know Scalise personally?


[14-Dec-19 06:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
does he have any info about Scalise's meeting with the group?


[14-Dec-19 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Scalise’s defense — that he and his staff were not fully cognizant of the group’s leanings and the nature of the meeting — contrasts with the local news media coverage generated by the Duke-coordinated conclave that spring.

The Gambit Weekly, an alternative publication in New Orleans, wrote days before the conference that the hotel distanced itself from Duke’s group. “A contract to book this event was made some time ago, and it is our practice to fulfill our contractual obligations,” a company spokesman told the publication. “Our company does not share the views of this organization.”

The Iowa Cubs, a minor league baseball team, also told the Gambit Weekly that they were concerned about housing their players, which included several African Americans, at that hotel while traveling to Louisiana.

“I’m glad we’re staying away from it,” Pat Listach, then a Cubs coach, said in an interview earlier that month. “I wouldn’t have been comfortable staying there.”

The Duke group drew additional headlines nationally in the weeks before the Louisiana meeting. In mid-May 2002, USA Today reported that the organization was active in South Carolina and had “picketed” there to support the Confederate flag flying on state Capitol grounds.

In February 2002, The Washington Post reported that Duke’s group was organizing in Virginia and “demanding that black teenagers be prosecuted for hate crimes against whites.”'


[14-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Castro's point was Duke was very well-known in the South


[14-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about a former wizard of the KKK here


[14-Dec-19 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not some nobody


[14-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I grew up in the south and didn't know who duke was until the press started mentioning him making tweets


[14-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
WaPo article https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-majority-whip-scalise-confirms-he-spoke-to-white-nationalists-in-2002/2014/12/29/7f80dc14-8fa3-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well maybe if you ever start running for political office you should listen a bit more


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're not a politician with s staff team of dozens and a dedicated PR person


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially when you hav staff under you


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and get invited to things.


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Here's how reality works


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The level of negligence involved here would hav to be astronomical to make this okay.


[14-Dec-19 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
also I think hatecrimes should be universal. if a african american attacks a caucasion american because of his skin color or status then it should be hate crime


[14-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go to racist meetings, smile at the camera, say "oops" for the leftists and centrists to drop it, keep the right wingers thinking "he's just distancing himself for the press, playing the long game, he's 'one of us'"


[14-Dec-19 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice segue, but no


[14-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no?


[14-Dec-19 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you not think crimes should receive equal legal implementation?


[14-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You know exactly what that No is for


[14-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no I don't.


[14-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then you're stupid, sorry


[14-Dec-19 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm a bit tired and sleepy


[14-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and have a 10 hour shift


[14-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You may want to sleep instead of trying to argue that racists maybe didn't know they were racists


[14-Dec-19 06:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So if this subject is done may I go back to my other questions? Why do you feel c's are redundant as a letter and  outside of the internet when was the last time you met someone on the right? seen one or talked to one in person?


[14-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He answered both your questions, and if for me the latter, every day


[14-Dec-19 06:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I didn't see him answer if he met one in person nor has he elaborated why he considers it redundant. if I missed his answer then its my bad but I don't see it in the mass of messages


[14-Dec-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
http://sandrarose.com/2019/12/did-hillary-clinton-get-plastic-surgery-in-preparation-for-the-2020-presidential-race/

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Did Hillary Clinton get plastic surgery in preparation for the 202...
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[14-Dec-19 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the conservatives are going after hillary again


[14-Dec-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
http://sandrarose.com/images31/clinton-before-after-745x437.jpg

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[14-Dec-19 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
granted, both the angle and lighting on the new image are horrid


[14-Dec-19 08:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
🧈 👨


[14-Dec-19 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
```you're a shitty person if you think that killing dozens of people for the actions of a few is justified```


[14-Dec-19 10:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the very fact that this conversation and similar are taking place means palestinians picked the correct strategy and are winning the only war that matters - that of infospace :D


[14-Dec-19 10:41 AM] Opponent#3498
```It's like saying the US military "wanted to make a statement with that missile" after a small town that had nothing to do with the military conflict was annihilated.```


[14-Dec-19 10:41 AM] Opponent#3498
that's literally what it's usually about. A show of force, literally a statement.


[14-Dec-19 10:44 AM] Opponent#3498
viewing it as anything else misses the point.


[14-Dec-19 10:46 AM] Opponent#3498
```Why do you feel c's are redundant as a letter```


[14-Dec-19 10:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen people making deliberate alterations in their grammar like this and claiming similar things before. 'It's a perversion of a language instilled by the Soviets and should be rejected'. It has shock value, seems to carry individuality and is in vogue, that's about it.


[14-Dec-19 10:53 AM] Opponent#3498
```outside of the internet when was the last time you met someone on the right?```
```Including family, today.```


[14-Dec-19 10:56 AM] Opponent#3498
very often (I wanted to say usually but I don't have enough data for that claim, maybe 30-35 cases if I really put my mind to it) when you see a zealous atheist, leftist and whatever else, it's because their family (usually parent(-s)) are the opposite and are (were) very pushy with it. And, in case of US Chistianity especially, pretty awful people in general.


[14-Dec-19 10:59 AM] Opponent#3498
works from left to right as well. Part personal resentment, part youth rebellion, part legitimate concerns. Although that's rare now and more anecdotal evidence from the past.


[14-Dec-19 12:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/TianaTheFirst/status/859248350985506816

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On #MayDay, I celebrate my Chetnik grandfather for saving my family from becoming one of the 100 million murdered under communism! #freedom
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[14-Dec-19 12:30 PM] ononim#8141
>I celebrate my *Chetnik* grandfather


[14-Dec-19 12:30 PM] ononim#8141
w o w


[14-Dec-19 12:31 PM] ononim#8141
and that's coming from a person who just accused Bernie of anti-Semitism


[14-Dec-19 12:37 PM] ononim#8141
>https://twitter.com/TianaTheFirst/status/1205544933484105728

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"A government big enough and unanswerable enough to do your bidding is also big enough and unanswerable enough to destroy you." In which @benshapiro crucially & flawlessly answers the question of what conservatism ought to conserve. A must read >> https://t.co/wxHu71ysTd
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[14-Dec-19 12:37 PM] ononim#8141
lmao


[14-Dec-19 12:59 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
is Chinese politics allowed here?


[14-Dec-19 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would assume yes


[14-Dec-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
white house advisers are warning that trump will become more unhinged...


[14-Dec-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-adviser-admits-president-will-come-out-of-this-impeachment-process-unhinged-report/

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Trump adviser admits president ‘will come out of this impeachmen...
CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta learned from a top adviser to President Donald Trump that he will likely come out of the impeachment completely “unhinged.” “I think it’s starting to sink in that he’s about to be impeached,” Acosta told CNN’s John Berman...
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[14-Dec-19 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
... the only way he could possibly become even more unhinged is if he started murdering people personally


[14-Dec-19 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i give it 2 days


[14-Dec-19 03:43 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Dec-19 04:02 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Dec-19 04:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Huh. Well, that's. At least it's better than Ariana Grande looking like Pat Sajak


[14-Dec-19 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b65d26107275839d510be78680f21a2d

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Iowa Democrats worry 'Medicare for All' hurts key industry
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Kim Motl doesn’t work in the health insurance industry. But her friends and neighbors do. So when she saw Sen. Elizabeth Warren recently in Fort Dodge, Iowa, Motl pressed...
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[14-Dec-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But what about my rich friends!? Who is looking out for them!?


[14-Dec-19 04:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If anyone can find a graph of the average insurance agent's income over the past couple decades vs. that of the CEO that'd be great. Like, there's a pinned chart of that for the entire US, but this is an industry I'd really like to see a more narrow perspective on


[14-Dec-19 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
um, the "little guys" working in the private healthcare industry would be perfectly qualified for working in public healthcare


[14-Dec-19 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
well, the ones who do the actual work, not the insurance agents


[14-Dec-19 04:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, yes, that's the idea - their skills would still translate


[14-Dec-19 04:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Imo it's far less of a displacement than, say, shutting down a mine would be


[14-Dec-19 04:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not to say we wouldn't see jobs slashed throughout the industry as it gets streamlined, ofc, but at what point are you defending obsoletion


[14-Dec-19 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
What ever will we do without that .1% of the workforce


[14-Dec-19 04:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sarcasm aside there's no getting around the fact that a simpler system needs less man-hours of grunt work, and not everyone can just pivot from a salary job to uber eats delivery, y'know?


[14-Dec-19 05:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I know that, but also we shouldn't be using these people as some golden calf for the improvement in the quality of life for all of us. Most of the jobs in these sectors aren't anything to build a career off of either, most of the time it's one of a number of options people tick to get through college or a side-gig. They'll still find employment elsewhere, we're evidently not choking for jobs anymore as they say. And even if not this proves the intersection of needs America as a whole has to go through, especially if the same people running the customer service desk are only really working to make sure they have health care themselves.


[14-Dec-19 05:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And without a profit motive attached to the industry as it is in a private case any money that is made can be put back into it in expansion of plans or even quality of service if by some chance given the scale of the market the scheme makes more than it anticipated, so it can open up its own opportunities like those offered already in private health insurance companies.


[14-Dec-19 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
btw is Trump cancelling 'instant citizenship by birth' a thing? I'd expect to see something about it here, and I don't seem to remember that.


[14-Dec-19 06:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That was a thing on US bases in other countries, yeah, I don't know if he's tried to expand on that


[14-Dec-19 06:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
can't remember if he actually passed anything to combat the "problem" of people immigrating just to dump a baby on US soil


[14-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
well, those wouldn't really count as US soil for most purposes anyway, so it's understandable.


[14-Dec-19 06:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Technically they do


[14-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
ehhhh. I mean they do, but, yeah.


[14-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
this exception makes sense.


[14-Dec-19 06:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really doesn't


[14-Dec-19 06:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The people it applies to live in the US


[14-Dec-19 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
well, fair enough. I don't think this is something that comes up all that often regardless.


[14-Dec-19 06:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and US embassies aren't swarmed with expecting mothers


[14-Dec-19 06:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just a thinly-veiled attempt to disenfranchize immigrants serving in the military away from prying eyes


[14-Dec-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing trump wants to get rid of is citizenship through military service


[14-Dec-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

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[14-Dec-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
One Year of Military Service During Peacetime
If you served honorably in the U.S. armed forces for at least one year during a period of peacetime, you may be eligible to apply for naturalization. While some general naturalization requirements apply under INA 328, other requirements may not apply or are reduced.


[14-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
'during peacetime' xD


[14-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
when was the last time US was 'at peace' xD Probably never.


[14-Dec-19 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
well, no, scratch never. Probably in the 30ies


[14-Dec-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
point is that a lot of people from other countries joined our military in order to gain access to citizenship, this includes on the battlefield.


[14-Dec-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peacetime is reletive, america is in a peace time despite our troops being at war over seas


[14-Dec-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have war going on on US soil in a military sense, as such we have a peacetime


[14-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's not considered actually 'at war' then


[14-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
okay.


[14-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
fair enough.


[14-Dec-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peacetime ends the minute we have to fight an invading military on our own soil


[14-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
by this definition even ww2 was 'peacetime'.


[14-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
well, no


[14-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
the islands


[14-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, no, nvm.


[14-Dec-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the coasts of america were under soem attack during ww2 but it didnt get dfar inland


[14-Dec-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we were in peace time until japan fucked with pearl harbor and then it was fucking on


[14-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but basically trump wants to end the naturalization through military service program which in turn is pretty much the person equivalent of telling an ally nation to go fuck themselves and have a nice day


[14-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that one's pretty scummy.


[14-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/14/politics/lindsey-graham-trump-impeachment-trial/index.html

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Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, chairman of the Judiciary Committee and a close ally of President Donald Trump, said he will do everything in his power to quickly end an expected impeachment trial in the Republican-led Senate.
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[14-Dec-19 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"long live king trump, may his dick forever grace my throat"


[14-Dec-19 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-wildfires-pg-e/california-governor-rejects-pge-bankruptcy-reorganization-plan-idUSKCN1YI038

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California governor rejects PG&E bankruptcy reorganization plan
California Governor Gavin Newsom on Friday rejected a bankruptcy reorganization ...
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[14-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://apnews.com/cbf99519cea3c6762a7dc36f7bc55141

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In surprise decision, US approves muscular dystrophy drug
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health regulators approved a second drug for a debilitating form of muscular dystrophy, a surprise decision after the medication was rejected for safety concerns just four...
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[14-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, FDA was like "this destroys kidneys and probably doesn't work"


[14-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Wall Street was like "Money says otherwise"


[14-Dec-19 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
$300,000 per year to treat the disease.


[14-Dec-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Save your adult son from death if and only if you are a CEO, basically.


[14-Dec-19 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that's even if it works at all)


[14-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
> "I am trying to give a pretty clear signal I have made up my mind. I'm not trying to pretend to be a fair juror here," Graham said, adding, "What I see coming, happening today is just a partisan nonsense."


[14-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Yuri#4154
https://newsthump.com/2019/12/13/nation-saved-from-honesty-decency-and-fairness/

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Nation saved from honesty, decency, and fairness
The nation has breathed a sigh of relief this morning after it became apparent that a Tory majority in the election had saved everyone from endless honesty, decency and fairness.
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[14-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Yuri#4154
It's satire, but it's so accurate it hurts


[14-Dec-19 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so this is how the scotland/ireland alliance begins


[14-Dec-19 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
STFU

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[14-Dec-19 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtCV421T52s

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[14-Dec-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/6c4OMap

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Former US Attorney Barbara McQuade made a list and it's great. I'm collecting them here as separate images for easy sharing when the ill-informed decide to try them on for size in the comments.
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[14-Dec-19 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Missed one: "Trump was justified in blocking testimony, and he has the power to do so." Article 2 of the Constitution specifically excludes the use of that power in impeachment. Nor would issuing a blanket refusal to all subpoenas, present and future, ever be justified anyway.


[14-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/EivI8dy.png

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[14-Dec-19 09:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"a favor is not bribery" - actual defense being used


[14-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Yuri#4154
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcjamescook/status/1205461109765005313

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BREAKING Scottish National Party leader Nicola Sturgeon says that next week she will publish a "detailed, democratic case" for a second independence referendum.
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[14-Dec-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f36f25cc914820a5d470e7d903dd5cb8

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AP source: NJ Dem lawmaker plans to become a Republican
WASHINGTON (AP) — Top House Republicans have been told that Democratic New Jersey Rep. Jeff Van Drew is going to switch parties and become a Republican. That's according to a GOP official familiar...
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[14-Dec-19 11:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No way in frozen hell will BoJo allow that


[14-Dec-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Losing Scotland would likely cost him his head


[14-Dec-19 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and scotland will gladly take that head and put it on a pike

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[14-Dec-19 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then boil it to use as haggis sauce


[14-Dec-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/319fb954f1c10ad1be50da18951d63be

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Mexico disputes language in US bill on ratifying trade pact
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Just days after a landmark agreement on a trade pact to replace the North American Free Trade Agreement, Mexico objected Saturday to legislation introduced in the U.S. Congress...
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[14-Dec-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/blue_labour/status/1205866120256856073

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Welcome to the hundreds of new followers that have followed in the past 48 hours. A socialism which is economically radical and culturally conservative is the future of the Labour Party.

New essays and analysis will be published over the next few weeks. Glad to have you w...
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[14-Dec-19 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is just reverse Blairism


[14-Dec-19 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, more accurately, NAZBOL GANG


[14-Dec-19 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
LemonDrop.jpg

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[14-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 so like everyone gets free money as long as you're married traditionally?


[14-Dec-19 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I guess


[15-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
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Bill Barr is bending over backward to protect Donald Trump, and in the process, he's burning the Justice Department to the ground.
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[15-Dec-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah we're at the "If we aren;t getting what we want, we'll raize it to the ground" part of the GOP motto


[15-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is probably a warning shot in relation to the House calling for him to resign and be disbarred.


[15-Dec-19 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he;s basically strapped a bomb to his chest and is now holding the justice department hostage incase anyone tries to challenge him


[15-Dec-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A modern Thomas Cromwell.


[15-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I think most attorneys would have at least been disciplined for what Barr had done


[15-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude most anyone in the Trump administration outside of it would be in jail.


[15-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Presidency has gone crazy.


[15-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His criticism of the justice department wouldn't be acceptable if he weren't AG


[15-Dec-19 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's surprising he hasnt murdered anyone yet


[15-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's intended I think to be a slipper slope, Intexda


[15-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like as an attorney you can't criticize the judiciary unless it's part of a genuine desire to improve it


[15-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Commit offense, make Republicans see it as okay, commit worse offense, on and on.


[15-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is eventually Republicans WILL just outright say that murder is okay when the President does it.


[15-Dec-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so next is the murder


[15-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, next is attainder.


[15-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seizing Biden's assets and such and imprisoning him.


[15-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Murder comes after reelection.


[15-Dec-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with this train of logic is that it assumes trump still has rational thinking and is hinged


[15-Dec-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is already killing


[15-Dec-19 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
(the children who are in cages)


[15-Dec-19 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is losing his patience with this plan


[15-Dec-19 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other problem is i wasnt assumign the murder of a political opponent, i was assuming the murder of one of his underlings who keeps fucking up


[15-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no, underlings resign


[15-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
murdering them is the wrong move.


[15-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they resign, those with Trump can say it was their own fault, they took blame.


[15-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Murder would put blame bakk on Trump.


[15-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Murder is for Trump's threats, not his sacrificial allies.


[15-Dec-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this assumes trump still has the werewithall to think that through


[15-Dec-19 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't, but others around him do.


[15-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jared Kushner isn't an idiot.


[15-Dec-19 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but trump has proven time and again, when impatience coems into play, he stops listenign to literally everyone around him


[15-Dec-19 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he isn't pulling all the strings.


[15-Dec-19 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt means it wouldnt happen in a closed door setting


[15-Dec-19 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it only takes 5 minutes with him alone privatly with soemone liek giuliani, and no one else aroudn to stop his impulses


[15-Dec-19 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the strings only work if someone is around to keep him leashed at all times


[15-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
See this is the beauty of it tho


[15-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump does one thing, one stupid thing


[15-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone's dealing with that


[15-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, Barr, or Jared, or Giuliani is doing something smartish and even more corrupt


[15-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly all of them, all at once


[15-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time anyone is even done dealing with Trump's thing, there's no energy left to go after the other things going on in his administration.


[15-Dec-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmm, that is a problem


[15-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a disorganized mess less like the mafia and more like a gang of thugs that happens to include the mayor, DA, 2 cops, a 7/11 cashier, and a school superintendend.


[15-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what makes it so effective.


[15-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can go around putting out brush fires from it constantly and still never get at the worst members.


[15-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar to what Hitler did


[15-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
he made redundant positions with overlapping authority


[15-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it meant they couldn't team up to take him down for a coup, and there was no accountability


[15-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the chaos, it usually wouldn't be the logically correct desired decision made, but the decisions made would be basically impossible to stop.


[15-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Terrible approach to fighting a war, but it shields corrupt people amazingly well.


[15-Dec-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i could leave lesser nazi germany


[15-Dec-19 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i say lesser because we havent yet hit all the marks they had


[15-Dec-19 12:44 AM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-the-west-was-lost?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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In America’s first climate war, John Wesley Powell tried to prevent the overdevelopment that led to environmental devastation.
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[15-Dec-19 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck, the next congressional election is in november :hopeless:


[15-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good side of that is that there's time to put Republicans to the fire they started.


[15-Dec-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope mcconnell hangs in his election


[15-Dec-19 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i should focus on north carolina


[15-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the cheering by the GOP when they hear the blue wall remains down election night...


[15-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the results come in from Florida and Texas


[15-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The horror, the thing Democrats promised for years


[15-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Texas has gone _blue_


[15-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's no contest in Florida at all


[15-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then McConnell loses reelection.


[15-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what would they do?


[15-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
There aren't that many Republican Senators left that could do what he does.


[15-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the moderate GOP senators are gone


[15-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a one senator GOP majority with a Democrat in the White House


[15-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That would be more entertaining.


[15-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell desperately trying to hold onto a one member majority.


[15-Dec-19 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think we've already seen one Republican go independent this week


[15-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some DINO is switching.


[15-Dec-19 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, there's that too


[15-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Treascair#7785
I keep expecting at least a couple folks nut up and follow Justin Amash's example.


[15-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
```Certain factors seem to sharpen the pain. Using cash rather than credit cards typically hurts more, because paper money must be physically relinquished. ```

Going through other stories on the 'first climate war' portal, this is from one about free shipping.
This. This exactly is the one of two drawbacks (the other being, too much traceability for my liking) of e-commerce and credit cards in general. I kind of forget that this is how US typically lives for decades by now. No wonder you get 'compulsive spending' left and right.


[15-Dec-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer cash to debit


[15-Dec-19 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i have to use credit, it;s prepaid. which is why i have no credit score...


[15-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the only way I've ever used it too. Only prepayed and only if I must. It's a niche, it has its purpose, but that's it.


[15-Dec-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing that's going to bite me is my lack of a 401k which means i wont have social security payments because i can;lt find a job to obtain money, to invest into my social security


[15-Dec-19 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[15-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you have a reason to expect your country will be around by the time you need it.


[15-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
me, I'm really not willing to stick around to find out, if I get any say about it.


[15-Dec-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again social security may not exist anyway by the time i need it...


[15-Dec-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would prefer to flee to southern ireland


[15-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, even for you guys, that's not that of an outlandish thought anymore.


[15-Dec-19 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless scottland and northern ireland blast britain in the ass and take control back


[15-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474602-sanders-outraged-after-mlb-threatens-to-cut-ties-with-minor-league-teams

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Sanders 'outraged' after MLB threatens to cut ties with minor leag...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) sent a letter to Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred Saturday to express his outrage at the league's threat to completely sever ties with its affiliate minor league baseball teams.
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[15-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[15-Dec-19 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's outraged all the time, that's the appeal


[15-Dec-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he truly represents the people


[15-Dec-19 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
outraged, and in dire need of a fucking break


[15-Dec-19 02:44 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/a-powerful-statement-of-resistance-from-a-college-student-on-trial-in-moscow

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A Powerful Statement of Resistance from a College Student on Trial...
Yegor Zhukov’s message about responsibility and love shows what political dissent can be and seems to describe American reality as accurately as the Russian one.
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[15-Dec-19 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine a country full of responsible, loving people. Bonding together in hatred towards all that is alien towards good Christian values.


[15-Dec-19 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
jesus fucking christ. And this is the best Russia has to offer in terms of 'opposition'


[15-Dec-19 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/fox-news-lying-to-defend-trump-makes-it-a-threat-to-us-national-security-cnn-contributor/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Fox News lying to defend Trump makes it a threat to US national se...
Fox News a threat to American democracy and national security, a CNN contributor explained on Saturday. Garrett Graff was interviewed by CNN’s Ana Cabrera about a new piece he wrote for Wired titled, “Fox News Is Now a Threat to National Security.” “Monday’s split-s...
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[15-Dec-19 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
also, when you hear the jokes about how Russians (and indeed Russian-speaking) accept death gladly as a release, well, those aren't really jokes.


[15-Dec-19 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
really


[15-Dec-19 02:57 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jeff-van-drew-donald-trump-party-switch

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Anti-impeachment Democrat Jeff Van Drew meets with Trump to discus...
Rep. Jeff Van Drew, D-NJ, met with President Trump on Friday to discuss going across party lines and joining the Republican Party -- after he has spent months criticizing fellow Democrats for their push to impeach Trump.
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[15-Dec-19 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, a new jersey politician was a republican wearing a democrat disguise


[15-Dec-19 03:10 AM] illumnious#7938
wow


[15-Dec-19 03:10 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm sorry, what????????? https://twitter.com/i/status/1205910779578535936

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[15-Dec-19 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look, trump paid a bunch of people to spew anus garbage out their mouth butts


[15-Dec-19 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
lol


[15-Dec-19 03:12 AM] illumnious#7938
what a bunch of dicks


[15-Dec-19 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, trump's dick in their mouth butts


[15-Dec-19 03:12 AM] illumnious#7938
impeachment is a witch hunt


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] illumnious#7938
scam


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] illumnious#7938
waste of tax money


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] illumnious#7938
what the actual fuck


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current GOP line is like


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
the constitution givs the presidency equal authority


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and only the judiciary can decide when the presidency has done anything wrong


[15-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that impeachment essentially isn't a remedy


[15-Dec-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
repiublicans are cherry picking the constitution like they cherry pick the bible


[15-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the current thing being espoused is that it's literally illegitimate to use the thing the constitution says to against a president violating the constitution.


[15-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the big "what about" line now is "what about a future Dem president"


[15-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
essentially trying to argue that it's alright as long as Dems get their own king afterwards.


[15-Dec-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
```The Pentagon has embraced the notion of China as the United States’ top “strategic competitor.” From a bureaucratic point of view, this designation makes perfect sense. For the last 20 years, the U.S. military has fought against insurgencies and guerrillas in failed states, and it has time and again had to explain why its expensive machinery has failed against these underequipped, cash-strapped enemies. To make an enemy of China, by contrast, is to return to the halcyon days of the Cold War, when the Pentagon could raise large budgets by conjuring the specter of a war against a rich, sophisticated military with cutting-edge technology of its own. All the while, the logic of nuclear deterrence and the prudence of the great powers ensured that a full-scale war between the two sides would never take place. Yet whatever the advantages for Pentagon budgets, the costs of such a cold war with China would be immense, distorting the United States’ economy and further inflating the military-industrial complex that U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower once warned against.```


[15-Dec-19 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2019-12-06/new-china-scare

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The New China Scare
Engagement with a rising China has been far more successful than generally recognized, and it continues to be the best path forward in an age of great-power competition.
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[15-Dec-19 04:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I don't know how to feel with china buying lots of stock from us


[15-Dec-19 04:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think its gonna fuck both of us up


[15-Dec-19 04:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/you-can-say-merry-christmas-again-lara-and-eric-trump-declare-victory-in-the-war-on-christmas/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘You can say Merry Christmas again’: Lara and Eric Trump decla...
For years, conservatives have complained about a “War on Christmas” — but President Donald Trump finally won the war, according to his son and daughter-in-law. Fox News personality Jeanine Pirro interviewed Eric Trump and his wife Lara in Trump Tower, which Pirro called...
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[15-Dec-19 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/noplaceforsheep/status/1205987720692002818

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https://twitter.com/noplaceforsheep/status/1205987720692002818
Just a thought. Instead of "boomers" try the same sentence with "Jews" instead.
See where that takes you.
See how you like it. 
See what it says about you. 
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[15-Dec-19 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
🆗 💥 🇷


[15-Dec-19 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would totally be valid if the argument is that boomers in their entirety should be murdered etc. instead of, you know, there's a severe inequality that they're repeatedly ignoring having created or exists.


[15-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Instead of "boomers" try the same sentence with "Jews" instead.


[15-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> I am astounded that people have chosen to read my post as comparing the suffering of Jews in Nazi Germany with the situation of boomers.


[15-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Imagine being this fucking retarded


[15-Dec-19 08:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Surprised that's not coming from a blue checkmark tbh


[15-Dec-19 09:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:faceclaw:


[15-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/13/787978353/american-samoans-citizenship-status-still-in-limbo-after-judge-issues-stay

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American Samoans' Citizenship Status Still In Limbo After Judge Is...
After ruling on Thursday that anyone born in American Samoa  should be recognized as a U.S. citizen, the same judge on Friday decided to put the order on hold until the issue is resolved on appeal.
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[15-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
wh u t


[15-Dec-19 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
how


[15-Dec-19 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the stupidest thing I hav ever seen about American governance.


[15-Dec-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Samoa is saying that it was improper of a judge to grant one of their people US citizenship after he moved to Ohio, because doing so violates the right of self-determination.


[15-Dec-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they are saying "No, don't giv us more rights, we should decide that for ourselves!"


[15-Dec-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a matter where the legal precedent says they are incapable of doing so.


[15-Dec-19 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a ruling like this the only out from having to beg Congress.


[15-Dec-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the appeal will probably succeed cause the 14th granting citizenship to all nationals makes no sense.


[15-Dec-19 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But also, WTF WHY DO WE HAV A TERRITORY WHERE WE MAKE PEOPLE NATIONALS BUT NOT CITIZENS? *WHY*?


[15-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do they even *hav* any citizenship? I don't think they do.


[15-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they're not getting it from any other countries.


[15-Dec-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, I take it bakk, the argument under the 14th is that making people stateless when born in the US is really fukking dumb and basically makes them by being born in the US worse off than if they were born literally anywhere else.


[15-Dec-19 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just so utterly shitty that the 14th probably applies on mere grounds of it violating basic assumptions of people getting citizenship under at least one country.


[15-Dec-19 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[15-Dec-19 11:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/14/judge-ordered-up-people-be-tossed-registered-voter-list-swing-state/


[15-Dec-19 11:49 AM] ononim#8141
https://scroll.in/article/918373/new-soil-study-confirms-1943-bengal-famine-was-caused-by-winston-churchills-policies-not-drought

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[15-Dec-19 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
```American Samoa is saying that it was improper of a judge to grant one of their people US citizenship after he moved to Ohio, because doing so violates the right of self-determination.```


[15-Dec-19 01:06 PM] Opponent#3498
kinda reminds me of South Africa's self-determination.


[15-Dec-19 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Dec-19 04:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stonks


[15-Dec-19 04:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well to be fair investment is a purely irrational affair. People just pick whatever feels good, not what will do good, not that we will know anyways. It's pretty much just random choice that putting your money into a thing will have a payout.


[15-Dec-19 04:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Especially in techn where 90% of all things aren't actually making a profit  in reality and sustain themselves purely by inflating their own value. Like WeWork.


[15-Dec-19 04:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
>When you value yourself at forty billion trillion quadrillion dollars because whatever while a company with the same size, same number of assets, and exact same practices is valued at a much more humble single-digit million


[15-Dec-19 04:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
>But it's OK because your founder is a mad-man following a mystical sect of Judaism and fancies himself a god-emperor and hopes WeWork will be the beginning of a grand and eternal family estate. But you run the company the way Led Zeppelin stayed in hotels.


[15-Dec-19 04:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Man WeWork is fucking wild and I love it. I want to know more. Because at least it'll be comedy before companies like it literally crash the buisiness retail space market   f o r    t h e    m e m e s


[15-Dec-19 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The secret to a long lasting business is to run your company  the way led zeppelin stayed in hotels"


[15-Dec-19 04:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's more WeWork did too in terms in bad operating procedure.


[15-Dec-19 04:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
The company had a habit of throwing "mandatory fun" events like outdoor music festivals like Glastonberry in the UK, where they'd book Florence and the Machine to perform for WeWork employees and they'd camp out in a field too. At these events employees would pay into it, and those who paid more could be upgraded from "shitty tent" to a "bigger tent".


[15-Dec-19 04:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
At one event WeWork founder Adam Neuman began throwing furniture that belonged to the resort they were having this party at _into the fire_ because they ran out of fire wood.


[15-Dec-19 04:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Alcohol was also common, and there's a story from a woman who worked for the company who reported once waking up at one of these festivals with the outside of her tent coated in piss, shit, vomit, and semen from all the drunks there.


[15-Dec-19 04:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Neuman is also reported to have made interviewees drink with him at interviews, and he'd make them drink his expensive tequilla. Which he would also have a habit of drinking from the bottle while on work hours just walking around barefoot, because he was a barefoot lifestylist; he did everything barefoot.


[15-Dec-19 04:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Neuman is also said to sometimes go to offices people were renting from WeWork and just like, play pac-man with the workers there until five in the morning. Or it was at the WeWork offices themselves.


[15-Dec-19 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
There was such mass poor communication between WeWork and its contractors, or rampant disputes that the company that was paid to refill the complimentary mouth-wash stations at WeWork offices actually began filling the dispensers with glass cleaner. A memo leaked out from WeWork to these companies urged the contractor workers to "Please stop filling the mouth wash dispensers with glass cleaner"


[15-Dec-19 04:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Another story is at a WeWork office space, there was a sliding glass door between two companies I guess, or for one company to get inside their office, and it was the only door. One day when everyone left an umbrella fell across the door and jammed the door shut and for weeks no one at the company could actually manage to get into work, and so were locked out of their office for a very long time before the company (WeWork) ever responded.


[15-Dec-19 04:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Before last month I had literally never heard of wework


[15-Dec-19 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they ran it exactly how led zepelin stays in hotels


[15-Dec-19 04:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
I've heard whisperings and murmurings of it for a while up until a little over a month ago when it blew up. But it would come up as a mention in financial reporting. But I wasn't plugged into the tech news so I never heard of it all that much or read a lot of discussion on it (the company, despite being a glorified land lord for buisinesses fancied itself a "tech company" because it tracked employee's and rentors activity or something). Otherwise, the only other people taking them seriously and plotting their slow collapse were subscription-based finance journals.


[15-Dec-19 05:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh also: WeWork office spaces were evidently very distracting. The company like to have a "party atmosphere" for the company's renting out their spaces so every day there was something going on in these generally very open office spaces. There were always competing businesses for conference rooms who would either have the same room booked for a legit business meeting or someone would have organized some party like a dog fashion show. I've heard they are very distracting offices to work in.


[15-Dec-19 05:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
But they offered free kampucha and cucumber water. Which wasn't much of a benefit in the long run, lmao


[15-Dec-19 05:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For maybe somewhat related reasons I'm remembering when 6 years ago I did a 3 day work interview for a startup


[15-Dec-19 05:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They wanted to make a gig-economy app for "random jobs"


[15-Dec-19 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And their investment structure required that all employees enroll in the local university in order to receive a start-up grant and state subsidy


[15-Dec-19 05:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
I swear fucking tech is turning into a grift.


[15-Dec-19 05:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fuck this college shit, I'm turning into a grifter.


[15-Dec-19 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The owner's father was in real estate and had a loft in some building to use as an office space


[15-Dec-19 05:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'mma approach super rich people talking about how I want to build a hotel that's a rock club that's a art museum that's a youth hostel and a ski resort in Georgia.


[15-Dec-19 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My 3 days of "work" were mostly watching this idiot try to compile his app and get selenium to talk to it, in between breaks of showing my his drone flying skills and sweet pinball machne


[15-Dec-19 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While I read up on apple app testing docs


[15-Dec-19 05:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then ferret all that money away into a money laundering system to deposit it all in some Swiss bank account so when I inevitably go to jail for twenty years for the grift I'll come out a millionaire.


[15-Dec-19 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's amazing how much money one could make if they just become a sociopath and abscond all morals


[15-Dec-19 05:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
You don't need low morals to scam the uber rich really, because they're the ones who have so much money they can't loose, and they're stuck playing a game of their own against others that, "well if I don't do it then someone else will and win so I better play".


[15-Dec-19 05:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
So you can like, take the Saudis for hundres of millions and they won't flinch.


[15-Dec-19 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or Bezos.


[15-Dec-19 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
And since they have so much fucking money they won't notice it. They'll probably write it off as a loss and then get money back from the government.


[15-Dec-19 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
discord why

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[15-Dec-19 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Oh, we made a bad investment with a shady guy. I guess that's a hundred million loss on my part."


[15-Dec-19 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
rip


[15-Dec-19 05:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
unrelated https://youtu.be/epkCrB8aKXA

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[15-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Macarou#9574
http://www.centuryinitiative.ca/

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Century Initiative
The Century Initiative is focused on responsibly and thoughtfully growing the population of Canada to 100 million by 2100.
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[15-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Macarou#9574
100 million, why such a high number?


[15-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
it's just talky-talky, they could say a billion just as well


[15-Dec-19 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
literally nobody knows what will happen in the next 80 years.


[15-Dec-19 08:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-supporter-bernie-sanders-rally-2020

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A protestor took center-stage at an Iowa campaign rally for 2020 presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on Saturday, when he stood up and delivered a message to President Trump.
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[15-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The US could make anything it wanted to be work.


[15-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We could decide tomorrow to become an authoritarian dictatorship and literally have the Constitution ripped up and people would go along with it.


[15-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So don't say "X couldn't work here"


[15-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But this guy was just a dumb Bernie Bro.


[15-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, good all FOX NEWS


[15-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire world could be orange but they'll laser-focus on that little point of blue and make it the biggest news story of the day


[15-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind the highschool-level antics of how they select article images


[15-Dec-19 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>concerned bernie looking worringly to a low-angle shot of regal and judgemental Trump


[15-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Best part is their viewers are all fucking dumb enough to lap it all up without question


[15-Dec-19 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OWNING THE LIBS


[15-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Vietnam also is a bad example because


[15-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/vietnam-gdp@2x.png?s=vietnamgdp&v=201907021328V20191105

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[15-Dec-19 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah...


[15-Dec-19 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate when socialism makes my GDP more than double in less than a decade


[15-Dec-19 08:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well on one hand: is Vietnam all that "socialist" to begin with? I know a few socialists today scratch their head over Vietnam for being basically Dengism-lite; like they just loosened up their union laws, y'know, that quint-essential socialist institution from way back when. On the other hand: it's a command economy in a nation so depressed it had no where to go but up in the first place, and throwing the weight of the state behind just about anything is a flood of material support for any program and of course it'll go up, so long as the leaders don't embezzle that shit.


[15-Dec-19 08:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
For the meme, I'd rather point to the results of Anarchist Spain as, "Boy, I really do hate it when the Anarcho-Communists literally double production in all fields through direct worker's control and become the arsenal of the Republican war-effort. If only the Spanish left at the time wasn't a hilarious mess of everyone partaking in circular blame, Roosevelt hadn't disregarded the embargo and let the Falangists buy oil, and the German-Italian axis in support of Franco was an in-fighting mess then maybe we'd have a better Spain."


[15-Dec-19 08:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
But alas the Republican government was full of meme-level betrayal such as Trotskites reporting Stalinist and Anarchist positions to the fascists, and the Stalinists blaming everything wrong on Trotskites and Anarchists, Roosevelt apparently disregarded the embargo of the Spanish market totally in order to sell oil to Franco, and the Germans and Italians were fairly cohesive in sending support to the Spanish-right.


[15-Dec-19 08:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
That said, I'd go beyond pure productiveness per socialism in the US and ask less, "How much more can it make American wealth increase" and more, "How much more better can it utilize America's own wealth for the benefit of all".


[15-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but that doesn't get a socialist elected


[15-Dec-19 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anger does


[15-Dec-19 08:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anger can get anyone elected, it's more the narrative to frame it. Any party can express anger at "the elite". But in the waters of liberal politics it can get murky, where as at least a socialist narrative can define it better: "The rich are bad not because they are elite but because of their own collective interests to get ahead in the economy, which pushes us down. We need to not just get rid of them, but change the way the game is played."


[15-Dec-19 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's certainly a lot of anger and distaste for the way wealth and opportunity is structured in America. But the narrative game is broken. People know there are people getting more out of than they should and they're pissed. But a "vs them" only narrative runs into "drain the swamp" ground that produces Trumps. The socialist course of action should be more, "how does this happen? Well here is how it happens, and this is what we're going to do".


[15-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Too complicated


[15-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rich bad


[15-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Billionaire tears lol


[15-Dec-19 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly that's the discourse


[15-Dec-19 08:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/09/afghanistan-documents-reveal-officials-doubted-war-worth-cost/2628417001/

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'Truth was rarely welcome': US officials held bleak view of war in...
Many top U.S. officials held sharply negative views of the U.S. entry into Afghanistan and bleak assessments of the prospects for success.
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[15-Dec-19 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So exactly like the Trump administration?


[15-Dec-19 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, fukk both Bushes so hard.


[15-Dec-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You wouldn't want to stick your dick in a bush


[15-Dec-19 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You'll get splinters and shit


[15-Dec-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to do it with a mace.


[15-Dec-19 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the mid 80s


[15-Dec-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The entire world would have been better off had we cleaned up the debris from 9/11 and then done absolutely nothing else connected to it.


[15-Dec-19 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just moved on.

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[15-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://apnews.com/24e0be53dcabcd3a8d53bcc8b3b493f6

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AP Interview: Taiwan may help if Hong Kong violence expands
TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Taiwan’s top diplomat said Tuesday that his government stands with Hong Kong citizens pushing for “freedom and democracy,” and would help those displaced from the...
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[15-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
understandable.


[15-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
like Baltic states with us, those are next on the menu.


[15-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2019/12/10/runner-who-slapped-reporters-butt-on-live-tv-identified-as-youth-minister/

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Runner who slapped reporter’s butt on live TV identified as yout...
Tommy Callaway was identified as the Savannah, Ga., 10K racer who slapped anchor Alex Bozarjian, after online sleuths found him thanks to his race number shown in other photos.
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[15-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course.


[15-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-to-unveil-articles-of-impeachment-focused-on-abuse-of-power-obstruction-of-congress

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Democrats unveil impeachment articles, as White House slams 'basel...
House Democrats on Tuesday introduced two articles of impeachment against President Trump alleging abuse of power and obstruction of Congress regarding his interactions with Ukraine, touching off a rapid-fire sequence that could result in a momentous floor vote in a matter...
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[15-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Published 5 days ago`


[15-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If we wanted a FOX NEWS repost bot we'd rig a webcam to take pictures of kitty litter box


[15-Dec-19 10:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🦊 🗞️ 💩


[15-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/health/e-coli-cdc-warning-salad-kits-trnd/index.html

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The CDC is urging consumers to discard their salad kits after peop...
This outbreak is caused by a different strain of E. coli than the other current outbreak linked to romaine lettuce grown in the Salinas, California region, which has over 100 reported cases of infection.
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[15-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus fucking christ just nuke america already


[15-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You useless fucks can't survive a god damned fucking week without another e coli outbreak in lettuce


[15-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking hell


[15-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Incompetence of this scale is unheard of


[15-Dec-19 10:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It must be an attempt to kill the vegans.


[15-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3041493/patience-wearing-thin-foreign-firms-hong-kong-after-months

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Is patience wearing thin for foreign firms in Hong Kong?
Business leader warns contingency plans are being made in case violence flares again in troubled city.
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[15-Dec-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6751b84767e8a1ebbaea6cb628ac2a11

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Purdue Pharma’s foreign affiliate now selling overdose cure
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[15-Dec-19 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/14/politics/lindsey-graham-trump-impeachment-trial/index.html

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'I'm not trying to pretend to be a fair juror here': Graham predic...
Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, chairman of the Judiciary Committee and a close ally of President Donald Trump, said he will do everything in his power to quickly end an expected impeachment trial in the Republican-led Senate.
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[15-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
>when the line is literally to not even pretend to be following what the founders wanted.


[15-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would be funny if Roberts questioned him about it and asked why he shouldn't be struck for cause


[15-Dec-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure Roberts can really pull people from the vote.


[15-Dec-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can direct proceedings, but that's it.


[15-Dec-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnet.com/news/ftc-reportedly-considers-blocking-facebook-from-integrating-messaging-services/

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[15-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://eand.co/if-communism-killed-millions-how-many-did-capitalism-kill-2b24ab1c0df7

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If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?
When Ideas Become Ideology, the Price is Us
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[16-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, do you know of any comprehensive source that attempts to tally the total number of deaths that can be attributed to capitalism? people harp on and on about the "100 million deaths under communism" talking point in order to say that capitalism is better, but they completely disregard any logical explanation to how capitalism has likely killed more than communism


[16-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Opponent#3498
they're much harder to attribute.


[16-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's why I'm wondering if anyone has gone through the effort


[16-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
there's a few sites on the internet that use very low-end estimations attributed to capitalism (like that article I just linked), and the totals still rival the 100 million number attributed to communism, even though that 100 million uses the high-end estimations


[16-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/


[16-Dec-19 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
page isn't loading


[16-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
http://guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/

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Attempting the Impossible – Calculating Capitalism’s Death Toll
Update 8/10/18 Given the popularity of this post (and its recent resurgence), I figured I ought to write an update. The following post was written back when I was a senior in high school and still …
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[16-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], that one work?


[16-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
I linked it as http first, but then noticed it was working as https, so I swapped it out


[16-Dec-19 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[16-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's weird that it's working as https for me


[16-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
https://eand.co/why-american-and-britain-are-self-destructing-a8693ebb097

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Why American and Britain are Self-Destructing
How The Death Spiral of a Rich Society Begins With Austerity, and Ends With Poverty, Despair, and Collapse
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[16-Dec-19 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
> In the 1980s, America began decades of underinvestment in public goods and social systems. It privatized whatever there was to privatize. The idea was that whatever it was — healthcare, education, finance — the private sector could do it better. The Reagan Revolution was in full effect — as a backlash to the advances civil rights made in the 1960s and 1970s, the good white American using “choice” as a shield to protect themselves from ever having to invest in or mingle with those dirty, filthy subhumans. All that was called “neoliberalism.” Let markets sort it all out! Translation: let the strong survive, and the weak perish.


[16-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it bears repeating that for me, the horrifying part isn't just US falling.


[16-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it's that we, Ukraine, right now broadly support the same concept.


[16-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
> At the same time, the “private sector” which was supposed to provide good healthcare, education, retirement, finance, and so on, began to charge the average American more and more for these things, while lowering their quality. After all, corporations are profit-seeking entities: their motivation is money. And so over time, the average American began to pay prices for things that astonished the rest of the world: $50K for childbirth, $200K for an education, and so on. How could they afford the basics of life at ever increasing prices — when their incomes had begun to stagnate? They couldn’t — so they began to go into massive debt (and today, the average American dies in debt.)


[16-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
```whatever it was — healthcare, education, finance — the private sector could do it better```


[16-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
we're living the beginning of the transition right now.


[16-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't get why people are still trying to push that bullshit


[16-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
that's exactly the same thing that the US has been doing for 40 years


[16-Dec-19 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
there's literally 4 decades of evidence showing that it just doesn't work


[16-Dec-19 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
and the only arguments against changing it is that the alternatives are supposedly worse


[16-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
which is the exact same argument that the north korean government pushes on their people to dissuade them from trying to migrate or revolt (on top of the threat of killing them and their entire extended family, of course)


[16-Dec-19 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
that as bad as things are now, things are worse everywhere else


[16-Dec-19 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow There's someone I know who went on that project. But until I can dig it up or ask him where it is, here's a stop gap:

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[16-Dec-19 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
I believe I found the whole list, if at least an oldish one https://www.reddit.com/r/shitliberalssay/wiki/anticommunismkills

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[16-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
btw, what was that thing you were talking about like half a year ago with the formation of "social capital" in the absence of physical capital?


[16-Dec-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
I don't remember specifically, just you were saying something about how people still crave power, even in the absence of capital/money/etc and will form alternative systems in their place


[16-Dec-19 02:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
The social respect to your person owed to or out of you by your interactions with people. For example, doing or giving things or doing favors for people implies a return on that in the future as an underpinning of the gift economy. But these days the definition has changed and that definition may be pushed to an entirely new term as the notion of "social capital" transforms into the more modern and probably correct form of the weight and influence para-social relationships have.


[16-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
```1943–1957, U.P.A. operations in the Eastern Bloc: scores of thousands.

    40,000 of these were Soviet soldiers, and 22,400 were socialist officials and civilians. [126]```


[16-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
heeey, our very own war criminals/bandits turned national heroes.


[16-Dec-19 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely people. Hated communists enough they were willing to collaborate with nazis and kill ukraininan and polish civilians by thousands, among other things.


[16-Dec-19 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
although west Ukraine was a mess in general at that time.


[16-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
do note, up to '57


[16-Dec-19 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
If only Ukrainians took Mahkno seriously post-revolution. :twiface:


[16-Dec-19 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
once a while back I was vacationing with my parents in Karpathians. In some village we've seen a  memorial installed to locals who died around WW2.


[16-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
two sides. German side and soviet side. Same surnames over and over.


[16-Dec-19 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Happens. Was the case in the US Civil War. Both armies would have relatives of one another fighting each other.


[16-Dec-19 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the case also reminds me of a scene written in For Whom the Bell Tolls where Hemmingwaus describes a probably fictional event early in the Spanish Civil War where one of the secondary characters leads a successful and very personal purge of fascists in his village.


[16-Dec-19 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone knew everyone and who was to die personally. So much so they were arrested early in the night before they laid siege to the Civil Guardia barracks


[16-Dec-19 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
But when it came time for the ritual execution, the whipping of the fasicsts in an gauntlet until they ran off a cliff the villagers were initially hesitant and the last guy was allowed to walk with h dignity off the cliff, or he was pushed with an apology. Then the second guy pissed everyone off when he came out and started insulting and sneering at everyone so they beat him half to death before he even arrived to the cliff.


[16-Dec-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
One fascist was called out by his wife who was not sentenced, and he looked for her half blind before being thrown. Then she dove after him.


[16-Dec-19 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was hella brutal


[16-Dec-19 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the whole affair was supposed to give them their dignity in death after they went through a lengthy confession with a priest. But everyone got smash drunk before lunch and got pissy after the second guy, and in impatience they stormed the house they were kept in and killed them.


[16-Dec-19 02:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh I also want to point out, referring to the capitalist death topic: reminder the Congo Free State, effectively a nation-sized company ran by Belgian Kig Leopold II was so brutal it killed off half the population of the Congo, and maimed just about the rest.


[16-Dec-19 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like wise it's just been confirmed with soil science the famine in Bengal was actually caused by Churchill himself by his policies and not by natural disasters.


[16-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Already well-known by historians, but it's useful to hav some data to bakk it up.


[16-Dec-19 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[16-Dec-19 08:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Dec-19 08:07 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent


[16-Dec-19 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50804827

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Hallmark apologises for pulling same-sex ads
The company withdrew the adverts under pressure from conservatives, then reversed its decision.
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[16-Dec-19 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc Biden is at the point where if you saw an NPC like that in a game you'd wonder if they mixed up the models for zombies and the living https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106281097-1575572442339gettyimages-1191546568.jpeg?v=1575572467&w=1910

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[16-Dec-19 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amusingly, this is from an article about how the other candidates clearly aren't playing to win because they aren't bakking up Republican lies against him.


[16-Dec-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/business/jpmorgan-banking-racism.html

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This Is What Racism Sounds Like in the Banking Industry
A JPMorgan employee and a customer secretly recorded their conversations with bank employees.
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[16-Dec-19 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some banks should be burned to the ground.


[16-Dec-19 10:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/15/greta-thunberg-in-twitter-spat-with-german-rail-firm

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Greta Thunberg in Twitter spat with German rail firm
Deutsche Bahn says activist’s tweet implied she had not been offered a seat on journey home
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[16-Dec-19 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
geeze, she just said the train was crowded. that shouldn't be taken as an attack on your company....


[16-Dec-19 11:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Knowing twitter, her post likely lead to a massive thread of people @ing and shitting on deutsche bahn

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[16-Dec-19 12:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the court of public opinion is fucking dumb...


[16-Dec-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Dec-19 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/homeowner-says-swastikas-confederate-flags-are-not-racist-others-denounce-them-as-symbols-of-white-supremacy

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Homeowner says swastikas, Confederate flags are not racist; others...
A man in Iowa insists the swastikas and Confederate flags decorating the outside of his home are not racist.
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[16-Dec-19 01:19 PM] Macarou#9574
I'd laugh, but I'm not surprised.


[16-Dec-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my favorite quote form the article


[16-Dec-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They don't know their history, evidently," Stark said. "That's the only reason I can think of that they can think anything bad about it—they don't know their history."


[16-Dec-19 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I now wish to see the history book he read about them


[16-Dec-19 02:16 PM] Macarou#9574
You assume he read any.


[16-Dec-19 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, they were probably more like pamphlets than anything else


[16-Dec-19 02:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nazis just wanted rid of Jews that's a religion. Not racist. Confederates just wanted to keep the slaves not all slaves were black. Not racist. 🇺🇸


[16-Dec-19 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, see, the nazis just wanted to reclaim their lost territory and ensure their people had the living space needed to flourish without any people that had immigrated from other lands getting in the way


[16-Dec-19 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything that happened was just the damn liberals getting in the way and messing things up, really


[16-Dec-19 02:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Fugin' librul cukks.


[16-Dec-19 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
derm larbinals terk'd muh juice!


[16-Dec-19 02:45 PM] Macarou#9574
And the freeze peach, don't forget the freeze peach.


[16-Dec-19 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mm delicious freeze peach


[16-Dec-19 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
them larbinals er always after me lucky arms!

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[16-Dec-19 02:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
what the fuck is this

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[16-Dec-19 02:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Surely this will put a stop to gun violence


[16-Dec-19 02:53 PM] Macarou#9574
We did it boys, gun violence is no more, now we can all go home.


[16-Dec-19 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we finally did it! We took their lucky arms!


[16-Dec-19 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ddfed70e98d79cf0bee49eb1d9fd85b9

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AP Exclusive: Thousands of Ohio absentee applications denied
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Thousands of Ohio  voters were held up or stymied in their efforts to get absentee ballots for last year’s general election because of missing or mismatched signatures on...
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[16-Dec-19 03:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[16-Dec-19 03:14 PM] Opponent#3498
um, what?


[16-Dec-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently some people are arguing that because a few dictators were time;s person of the year, that must mean all people in time;s person of the year are dictators


[16-Dec-19 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rather, conservatives are arguing this against anyone who isnt conservative being a time person of the year


[16-Dec-19 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think obama got ont he cover once and they used that arguement then too


[16-Dec-19 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the actuall award goes to the most influential person of the year, it;s not meant to be a "this person was good" award


[16-Dec-19 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s meant to give a spotlight to someone who made the most waves socially


[16-Dec-19 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I somehow _really_ doubt it's Greta.


[16-Dec-19 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
but then, well, perhaps that nomination is a statement in and of itself.


[16-Dec-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, most people agree it should have been the hong kong vprotesters, but they arent really a single person so it;s kind of confusing


[16-Dec-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and i think time magazine is part of a magazine corporations that probably has some magazines running in china


[16-Dec-19 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's very likely.


[16-Dec-19 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also spooked several country's senates by being a young person talking about current issues


[16-Dec-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think one congressmen in the US was like "Well, I'm not going to make streides to change because china isn;t doing it first!"


[16-Dec-19 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I also wonder if time did it to piss off trump


[16-Dec-19 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/blackpeoplegifs/comments/eb9m42/for_the_culture/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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[16-Dec-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhiyidin_Moye?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf well fuck, he got violently murdered

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[16-Dec-19 03:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not related to his activism, though


[16-Dec-19 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c95ad079615efc5f4d033c24973a48fb

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US says it won’t accept North Korea-set nuclear deadline
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — A senior U.S. diplomat said Monday that Washington won’t accept a year-end deadline set by North Korea to make concessions in stalled nuclear talks and urged Pyongyang to...
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[16-Dec-19 04:51 PM] ononim#8141

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[16-Dec-19 04:51 PM] ononim#8141
This is an ideal political map


[16-Dec-19 04:51 PM] ononim#8141
You many not like it but this is what peak perfomance looks like

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[16-Dec-19 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kurdish Australia


[16-Dec-19 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kurdish Australia


[16-Dec-19 05:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Still shafting the Kurds with tons of deserts and like no good land, I see.


[16-Dec-19 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Dec-19 05:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Greece gets like everything good and Armenia freezes its ass off.


[16-Dec-19 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not in Vietnam and China tho


[16-Dec-19 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Armenian China, also Armenian Vietnam to make them lose a war


[16-Dec-19 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-homelessness/u-s-supreme-court-leaves-in-place-ruling-barring-prosecution-of-homeless-idUSKBN1YK1EA

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U.S. Supreme Court leaves in place ruling barring prosecution of h...
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear Boise's defense of its pol...
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[16-Dec-19 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/09/786315267/theres-a-new-kind-of-inequality-and-it-s-not-about-income

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There's A New Kind Of Inequality. And It's Not About Income
A report issued by the U.N. Development Programme says that the 20th-century thinking about global inequality no longer works in the 21st century.
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[16-Dec-19 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's about how in many places, upward social mobility is just gone.


[16-Dec-19 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeh but they tie US-backed Arab Spring to inequalities. They tie HK responding to pressure from PRC to inequalities.


[16-Dec-19 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea is sound, the examples kind of fall to pieces.


[16-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and it doesn't even present any argument, it just says 'upward mobility is gone, a people are protesting it'. The end. No why's, what's and when's about it, no usable information


[16-Dec-19 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not everything needs to be an argument.


[16-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
News is supposed to be about information, you know.


[16-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but, there isn't any. And this isn't even 'news' in any sense that it's 'new'.


[16-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an overview


[16-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
but a very shallow one.


[16-Dec-19 07:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If I hear "small business owner" like they make up 70% of america one more time Imma snap


[16-Dec-19 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
smallbusiness owners make up like 10%


[16-Dec-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest is corporate


[16-Dec-19 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the number gets even smaller whenever a walmart/ chain resteraunt is built


[16-Dec-19 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in rural areas


[16-Dec-19 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Small buisiness owners are really the most entitled and romanticized class. I think they beat out the Noble Peasant as the most romanticized. Durruti, this is so sad; can we please man the barricades for the Anarchist Union?


[16-Dec-19 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It allows pandering to a group that doesn't really exist that makes people not in that group feel good


[16-Dec-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus you don't have to do anything because the group barely exists

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[16-Dec-19 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the american dream fallacy


[16-Dec-19 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"this guy supports small business owners, and one day that could be me!"


[16-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Small business owners, especially with real estate, are usually really horrible people btw.


[16-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're generally born into some wealth and then realize they can liv off other people's labor while barely lifting a finger.


[16-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much you can screw over your workers on everything from taxes to liability and the law is usually on your side, and your employees can't unionize or anything.


[16-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also banks, as established above, are racist as fukk


[16-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and for someone not born into wealth to get a small business going requires a loan from a bank


[16-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
so small business owners tend to be very white and older


[16-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hard Republican voters who believe regulation is the devil.


[16-Dec-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking ye it is an aspirational class more than anything


[16-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An aspirational class that is odd, considering the thing most people in it would do is sell to big business the second they get a good enough offer


[16-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone wants to be a nice family farmer who passes things onto your kid until Cargill waves $200 million in front of you or something


[16-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Exaggeration but you get what I mean, and that's the best case scenario


[16-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More likely Cargill strangles you into bankruptcy


[16-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's literally how I've seen people describe start-ups here btw.


[16-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
'your goal and dream is to build something good enough that a big company buys you out.'


[16-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
and I can't say I disagree with it too much.


[16-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And to trick people into thinking you'll be independent


[16-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's hardly relevant here


[16-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody expects a succesful business to stay independant for long


[16-Dec-19 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice


[16-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nice


[16-Dec-19 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Monaco


[16-Dec-19 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking Someone somewhere put it something like this: all Americans see themselves as potential millionaires who have just been bothered to much. Being a "buisiness owner" is seen as the optimum get-rich scheme the American ideology seeks to continue and take advantage of. It's got a lot in common with the lottery, a point at which you don't ever need to work for anyone else ever. Selling out for them would still be a success, because they still get to live with big houses and fast cars.


[16-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-supreme-court-gives-free-speech-to-fake-doctors-but-not-real-ones/2019/12/11/2c4f4bc8-1c27-11ea-8d58-5ac3600967a1_story.html


[16-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
> The Supreme Court this week declined to review the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit’s decision in EMW Women’s Surgical Center v. Meier; this had the practical effect of upholding a Kentucky law requiring abortion service providers to, among other things, perform an ultrasound and play a fetal heartbeat recording to a woman seeking an abortion.


[16-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
> Things were different, however, when antiabortion advocates last year challenged a California law requiring crisis pregnancy centers — established, the law said, specifically to dissuade women from having abortions — to post truthful information about the limits of their services and the availability of state-sponsored family-planning services. The Supreme Court viewed that law as an impermissible form of forced speech and held, 5 to 4, that it violated the First Amendment.


[16-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"LISTEN TO ITS HEARTBEAT YOU WHORE"


[16-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
> In the California case, NIFLA v. Becerra, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that California could not coerce speech from the activists who run and work at the antiabortion centers. The majority held that the law “impose[d] a government-scripted, speaker-based disclosure requirement” in violation of the First Amendment.


[16-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Crow#5457
> Kentucky’s antiabortion law, which will now go into effect, does almost precisely the same thing. It forces medical service providers to engage in coerced speech — in this case, making and then playing a recording of a fetal heartbeat. How can it be that California’s statute violated the First Amendment, whereas Kentucky’s does not?


[16-Dec-19 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The politics of shame


[16-Dec-19 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When instead of looking up for the primary root causes of women wanting to abort fetuses, you double down on the victim blame


[17-Dec-19 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Dec-19 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
shaming tactics in general are a blast. All the way from girls handing out white feathers denoting cowardice to soldiers on leave during WW1.


[17-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/nyregion/jeff-van-drew-democrat-republican.html

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By Tracey Tully
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/nyregion/jeff-van-drew-democrat-republican.html
7 Aides Resign Over Rep. Van Drew’s Plan to Switch to Republican...
As news spread of the New Jersey congressman’s apparent decision, most of the staff in his Washington office quit.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/16/nyregion/16vandrew/16vandrew-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
How to commit political suicide with a howitzer.


[17-Dec-19 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bipartisan issue of the day: Van Drew is a slimy shitty weasel who should burn in a fire.


[17-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has switching parties like this worked in the past 2 decades


[17-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The last time this shit worked was what, 1994?


[17-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And a lot of that was older Democrats going "Shit well I guess the conservative party changed"


[17-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can work, but you should never do it in this situation


[17-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Van Drew's district is blueing and no one there wanted him, he was going to be primaried.


[17-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the guy made it clear he was going Republican to ally with Trump because he decided not to impeach


[17-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to make the case to voters that the party left you, not that you left the party.


[17-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
His case is "well, actually, Trump's ass tastes pretty sweet, shouldn't impeach, bet I can get rich voting no"


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the most retarded move possible.


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It completely undercuts the Republican position that it's Democrats who are being partisan


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they're going to respond furiously


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now it's just one lonely Minnesota guy voting no now


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it also means betraying Democrats


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess who just secured an ambassadorship to some caribean country


[17-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they're going to respond furiously


[17-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were already going to primary him.


[17-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/16/judiciary-committee-impeachment-report-trump-committed-multiple-federal-crimes-086096

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Judiciary Committee impeachment report alleges Trump committed 'mu...
The 169-page report makes the case for Trump's removal from office.
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[17-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
> The report, a 169-page assessment of the case for Trump’s removal from office, contends that Trump committed “multiple federal crimes” — ones that Democrats addressed under the broad umbrella of “abuse of power,” the first article of impeachment against the president.


[17-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
> “Although President Trump’s actions need not rise to the level of a criminal violation to justify impeachment, his conduct here was criminal,” the panel’s Democrats argue, labeling Trump’s behavior “both constitutional and criminal in character” and contending that the president “betrayed the people of this nation” and should be removed from office.


[17-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"wafer thin"


[17-Dec-19 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"block of wafers thin"


[17-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wheat Thiccs

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[17-Dec-19 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like buying myself a brick of wafers now


[17-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Abuse of power" is genius because it encompasses a lot


[17-Dec-19 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it pretty much encompasses everything trump has done or attempted to do in the last 3 years


[17-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/474789-food-inspectors-warn-of-mystery-pork-under-new-meat-inspection

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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/474789-food-inspectors-warn-of-mystery-pork-under-new-meat-inspection
Food inspectors warn of 'mystery' pork under new meat inspection rules
Two federal inspectors warned that “mystery” meat and other unwanted materials will contaminate pork throughout the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pig_041719gettyimages.jpg


[17-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
> "The consumer's being duped," Mauer said, adding that the meat may be more likely to contain feces, sex organs, toenails, bladders and unwanted hair.


[17-Dec-19 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
not so nice


[17-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
gilded age gilded age gilded age


[17-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
no more regulationssss


[17-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What hair in pork is wanted


[17-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And why is pig seemingly the hardest animal to slaughter and keep safe for consumption


[17-Dec-19 01:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
pigs are dirty bois.


[17-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's about how to make mass production of meat profitable


[17-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
the animals need to be kept in absurdly unclean conditions to maximize profit


[17-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
unclean, unsafe, etc


[17-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
europe outlawed that shit, so they don't have these problems


[17-Dec-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt give a shit about consumer safety, he gets requests form corporations looking to cut corners and he axes the regulations inconveniencing them


[17-Dec-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in return they send "donations" to his hotels so he can embezzle money from them


[17-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
'mystery meat'. In games that would typically be human meat xD


[17-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not the case here, but it's funny nonetheless.


[17-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mystery meat used to just mean tofu or other not-meat bean products


[17-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
right. Well, I learned something today.


[17-Dec-19 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was a common item on the "menu" for US military back in the 70s-80s


[17-Dec-19 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Military testing out the cheapest thing they could feed people while keeping them healthy and energized


[17-Dec-19 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrm, apparently out of that specific context it does just means "garbage meat", though


[17-Dec-19 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mystery meat also refers to meat from an unlabeled can


[17-Dec-19 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wf3-gYNYIk

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wf3-gYNYIk
LIVE: Trump RAGES Over Criminal Allegations
Multistreaming with https://restream.io/
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[17-Dec-19 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently he had a 107 tweet meltdown this weekend

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[17-Dec-19 02:10 AM] illumnious#7938
oh shit


[17-Dec-19 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone should compile his long twitter rants into full page essays for archive purposes


[17-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
imagine all the tweets that will later be on full display at the president's library


[17-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, like how he's such a stable genius


[17-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
and his great and unmatched wisdom


[17-Dec-19 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and his 395 essay length twitter rants


[17-Dec-19 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://cms.arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/12/russian-media-group-rambler-attempting-to-hold-nginx-hostage/

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https://cms.arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/12/russian-media-group-rambler-attempting-to-hold-nginx-hostage/
Russian media group Rambler attempting to hold Nginx hostage
Nginx's co-founders were detained on criminal charges and now face civil suits.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/prisonbars-760x380.jpg


[17-Dec-19 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50809222

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50809222
Twitch sued for £2.1bn over Premier League games
The Amazon-owned streaming giant is facing claims it illegally broadcast matches.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11F2F/production/_110191537_mediaitem110162553.jpg


[17-Dec-19 02:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Matches it's owner has the rights to stream but only from amazon prime video :shrugpony:


[17-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/474825-new-jersey-lawmakers-pass-legislation-eliminating-religious-exemptions

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/474825-new-jersey-lawmakers-pass-legislation-eliminating-religious-exemptions
New Jersey lawmakers set to pass bill eliminating religious exempt...
New Jersey lawmakers on Monday appeared poised to approve legislation eliminating religious exemptions to vaccine requirements for school-aged children.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/measlesvaccine_042215getty.jpg


[17-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"New Jersey would become the sixth state in the U.S. to allow only medical exemptions, joining California, Maine, Mississippi, New York and West Virginia."


[17-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Top 10 Anime Crossovers


[17-Dec-19 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://psmag.com/social-justice/there-arent-as-many-gay-people-as-you-think

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There Aren't as Many Gay People as You Think
New research finds overestimation of the homosexual population is linked with lower support for gay rights.
https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTUwNzI4NzA4MTA0MTM2MjMw/peter-hershey-282615.jpg


[17-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THE OTHERS ARE EVERYWHERE etc


[17-Dec-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
```"Members of groups that would be most likely to perceive gays as threatening, such as Republicans and the religious, were no more likely to provide higher estimates of the gay population than were members of other groups,"```


[17-Dec-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the squeaky wheel thing.


[17-Dec-19 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
willingly or unwillingly they attract attention, disproportionate to their impact.


[17-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
and it only increased with social media


[17-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Overestimation early on, until like the 00s makes a lot of sense


[17-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that was "all of these homosexuals are hiding in plain sight, I just know it"


[17-Dec-19 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/11/12/path-to-removing-donald-trump-from-office-229911

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/11/12/path-to-removing-donald-trump-from-office-229911
There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office
It would take just three Republican senators to turn the impeachment vote into a secret ballot. It’s not hard to imagine what would happen then.
https://static.politico.com/28/58/f0daf27643f4869d84c5f8106193/gettyimages-1180138044-773.jpg


[17-Dec-19 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474833-trump-tops-democratic-rivals-in-national-poll

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474833-trump-tops-democratic-rivals-in-national-poll
Trump tops Democratic rivals in national poll
President Trump topped the several top-tier Democratic presidential candidates in a national poll released Monday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_121019getty.jpg


[17-Dec-19 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Np1ZvmJ

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https://imgur.com/gallery/Np1ZvmJ
Something we can all agree on
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[17-Dec-19 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits don't really help.


[17-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that with a limit on your terms, you just slide into industry by passing bills as favors.


[17-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And being new, you're easy to influence.


[17-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, an *age cap*, that's an important thing...we shouldn't hav anyone in Congress who's getting senile.


[17-Dec-19 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not to solve lobbying.


[17-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to take a stab at lobbying, you really need to solve the *money* problem.


[17-Dec-19 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shorter campaign season and limits on how much a candidate can spend on it might help greatly.


[17-Dec-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
A shorter campaign season reduces the money needed to get in the public's mind, and enables working-class people to run.


[17-Dec-19 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
A forced limit on spending helps ensure someone can't do a mega ad blitz with money from some industry that wants to pollute shit etc.


[17-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
what prevents people from just paying for advertising privately before the campaign season?


[17-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you make that illegal.


[17-Dec-19 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately you hav to illegalize some form of people paying to get ads in a certain manner.


[17-Dec-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise you will always just see money wash over this shit with impunity.


[17-Dec-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
the only way I can see that being really effective is if it bars the campaigner from running at all


[17-Dec-19 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
if they try to pull that stunt


[17-Dec-19 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fining people and throwing them in jail tends to make them stop running for office.


[17-Dec-19 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you hav to 1) illegalize any campaign ad outside of campaign season, by anyone, for any candidate for office and 2) illegalize any spending past a certain amount for all working for a candidate during campaign season.


[17-Dec-19 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately you probably need to illegalize campaign ads altogether outside of a public fund per candidate.


[17-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, the point is


[17-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you want money out of politics, you hav to literally pull it out with the power of the law


[17-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just rely on something like term limits doing it indirectly.


[17-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The money *has to be made illegal*.


[17-Dec-19 05:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/watch-trump-supporter-confused-by-math-in-his-vision-about-president-ivankas-future-time-in-office/?utm_source=push_notifications

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WATCH: Trump supporter confused by math in his vision about Presid...
The mathematical skills of a Donald Trump supporter were called into question during an interview with The Daily Show correspondent Jordan Klepper. Klepper interviewed the man with a Trump hat and shirt at a Trump campaign rally. “Why are you here?” “Well, because two w...
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[17-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[17-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Oh no._


[17-Dec-19 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/erdogan-trump-turkey-us-armenian-genocide-native-americans-a9249101.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/erdogan-trump-turkey-us-armenian-genocide-native-americans-a9249101.html
Erdogan threatens to recognise US genocide of Native Americans in ...
'It is a shameful moment in US history,' says Turkish president
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/11/13/19/donald-trump-recep-tayyip-erdogan-white-house-turkey.jpg


[17-Dec-19 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do it faggot.

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[17-Dec-19 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> How will we live with such a tarnishment on Andrew "Indian Killer" Jackson? Surely the nation will fall if we failed to mythologize that asshole.


[17-Dec-19 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
hasn't the US recognized the trail of tears?


[17-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
while turkey refuses to recognize anything bad happened


[17-Dec-19 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
in armenia


[17-Dec-19 07:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I threaten to acknowledge the facts!


[17-Dec-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/X_G-FBSf1UI

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'Boris Johnson is a Lying Shit' - Fugue
He'd have you believe he can be trusted with the NHS...
...trusted to deliver Brexit...
...trusted to safeguard a livable climate!...

(remember when he conspired to get a journalist beaten up?)

VOTE!!

and you can also support UK organisations who advocate for a more hu...
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[17-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that even though european settlers fucked over the native americans, they weren't actually exterminated for their ethnicity


[17-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
unlike turkey in armenia


[17-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
turkey was exterminating armenians for being armenian, not because they had any practical reason for doing so


[17-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
settlers killed natives for resources


[17-Dec-19 07:48 AM] byte[]#2610
mmmmno


[17-Dec-19 07:48 AM] byte[]#2610
it was racism


[17-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just don't get how Erdogan doesn't realize we have plenty of people in the US who freely speak of it as a genocide


[17-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turkeys opinion would be just one other voice


[17-Dec-19 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except a bad faith one


[17-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
what was racism? americans moving into native lands and pushing out natives was 100% about resources


[17-Dec-19 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
there might be racism involved, yes, but that doesn't make it a genocide


[17-Dec-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
though the trail of tears is probably the closest the US came to genocide in regards to native americans


[17-Dec-19 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not so sure


[17-Dec-19 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
trail of tears was pretty fucked up


[17-Dec-19 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and jackson was pretty clearly genocidal


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
but the US doesn't deny the trail of tears ever happened


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
right


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A big argument could be "Never explicitly meant to kill them"


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
which is the fundamental difference between us an turkey here


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that only works sometimes


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking that's obviously not true here


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
they wanted them dead


[17-Dec-19 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
you can see it in the old western movies, culturally the US accepted what happened to the natives was pretty fucked up too


[17-Dec-19 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
main characters were always shown as being knowledgeable and amicable with native americans


[17-Dec-19 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The public, the court system, and congress weren't a fan of the Trail of Tears


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
while all the other characters were racist and superstitious towards natives


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole mess was kinda done with a bare minimum of faux legality


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Psssh how barbaric of Turkey for the genocide. See all you've got to do is make treaties and break them repeatedly until they are completely broken then shove them onto plantations


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Johnson was an asshole who was doing it to make the country more powerful.


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
you mean jackson?


[17-Dec-19 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, mixed him up with the OTHER asshole president.


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that they're both named andrew


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
and have last names starting with J


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the fundamental issue was


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
and ending with son


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
Json


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
indians weren't super prohibited by the US from being in society


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People who say this current impeachment is the most partisan or shaky clearly haven't looked into Johnson tho


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that sounds great, at first


[17-Dec-19 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
sure they couldn't vote etc. but most people couldn't either


[17-Dec-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is, that the very slow integration happening would make development difficult


[17-Dec-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
indians would eventually object to the way the gov't was using land


[17-Dec-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would become a huge constitutional issue with eminent domain


[17-Dec-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, the public would not be a fan of the diminishing number of whites


[17-Dec-19 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially since only whites could vote and join the military.


[17-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term politically, the only option was to either end those practices, or eject the indians and kill as many as possible along the way.


[17-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The society at the time was too racist to consider ending things.


[17-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh give them a home...no wait, whites need that


[17-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We'll carve some of our presidents into your most sacred land tho


[17-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Jackson took the easy long-term option that led to him openly defying SCOTUS.


[17-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And set the course strongly for Americans to completely disrespect indians in governance for the whole next century.


[17-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
By which time they were all basically dead.


[17-Dec-19 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder we only know how indians made arrowheads cause ONE GUY stayed in the woods in California until the early 20th century.


[17-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The eradication of native culture among the few that survived the diseases, massacres, and diseases again was pretty thorough.


[17-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indian kids were taken off reservations and put into boarding schools where they were forbidden to speak their native languages, often paired with kids from completely different tribes to mix them up.


[17-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, the first thing done was to cut their hair.


[17-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
For 2 reasons:


[17-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 Long hair made them stand out


[17-Dec-19 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 In many tribes, you only cut your hair when a loved one died


[17-Dec-19 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This went on until the 60s btw.


[17-Dec-19 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason reservations pretty much are vehicle junkyards with litterings of brown people whose culture is a mix of white trash and vague rememberances of something different.


[17-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, yeah uh, it's pretty hard to argue that America was doing things fine in regards to indians, Turkey is kinda...late on that boat.


[17-Dec-19 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow and yes it was about racism


[17-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem wasn't that natives would make it impossible to gain resources


[17-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was that they would be the ones gaining from them as newly-acquired Americans.


[17-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is wholly incompatible with a society where "caucasian" is a *requirement* to join the military.


[17-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
I did say there was racism involved, but it wasn't the main driving force


[17-Dec-19 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was, tho.


[17-Dec-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the whole point of it is what's happening in Hawaii now.


[17-Dec-19 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hawaii didn't get genocided, so now the people there are exerting their rights post-integration.


[17-Dec-19 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Admittedly, I strongly disagree that using a sacred mountain sacred cause of observing the heavens without clouds *for observatories to observe the heavens with* is a good use of energy in regards to respecting traditions, but the fact of the matter is, once you hav these people integrated, but still together, they fight.


[17-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of reservations wasn't to keep natives in place, it was to put them in little corners where nothing of value lied.


[17-Dec-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that they could then be culturally genocided slowly.


[17-Dec-19 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they had been left in place, they would've for instance gotten rich mining gold.


[17-Dec-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if the first oil barons were indians and they forced the US gov't to be less racist.


[17-Dec-19 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've been political chaos for a bit, and conservatives would be extremely annoyed.


[17-Dec-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, @Crow, the problem wasn't the resources would hav indians on top of them being a blokker, it's that the indians would be getting rich by selling the resources, becoming a powerful class of people who aren't supposed to be powerful in that society.


[17-Dec-19 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That btw is why Gorsuch voting with the liberal justices to actually honor a treaty about not taxing people on reservations to death is a big, big deal.


[17-Dec-19 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, indian casinos are a sort of strange concession that can't really enrich the whole reservation, but if treaties keep being actually honored, the inevitable result is indians that are not down with sitting in their corners outside society.


[17-Dec-19 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Dec-19 11:55 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
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[17-Dec-19 12:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/17/asia/pervez-musharraf-death-sentence-pakistan-intl-hnk/index.html

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[17-Dec-19 12:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-works-the-refs-hits-the-media-casts-doubt-on-debates

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[17-Dec-19 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/513cab63a1b3317f6342daf888a10763

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[17-Dec-19 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f12c47c41699f46e5412f4a50224cba3

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Ex-Trump campaign official Rick Gates faces sentencing
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[17-Dec-19 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f8c73b335c490ae7358e859d97b4e3bc

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Massive bill calls for $1.4 trillion in federal spending
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[17-Dec-19 01:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Dec-19 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-i-needed-yovanovitch-out-of-the-way-2019-12

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[17-Dec-19 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
just let them speak :3


[17-Dec-19 02:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Senate GOP will never allow Rudy, Trump, or anyone else actually involved in this mess to testify


[17-Dec-19 02:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Half of them would just stay silent and claim "executive privilege" because talking would bomb them, the other half wouldn't stop talking and either commit perjury or just spill the beans and grin because they they're they're above the law


[17-Dec-19 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-motivated-love-in-quest-for-biden-dirt-says-trump-2019-12

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Trump said Rudy Giuliani took a fresh trip to Ukraine in search of...
Trump has continued to defend Giuliani's push for damaging information on his political opponents, despite it helping to spark an impeachment probe.
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[17-Dec-19 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-doubles-down-on-admission-he-forced-yovanovitch-from-job-2019-12 and now he;s accusing her of being corrupt

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'I forced her out because she's corrupt': Rudy Giuliani triples do...
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[17-Dec-19 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-invites-premier-leagues-mesut-ozil-to-visit-xinjiang-2019-12

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[17-Dec-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Hey, friend, come visit our totally-not-prison camps for yourself :^) "


[17-Dec-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We promise it will be a fun and enjoyable experience and you can *totally* leave whenever you want"


[17-Dec-19 03:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/happy-impeachment-eve-is-trending-and-flooding-twitter-with-hilarious-memes/?utm_source=push_notifications

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It’s the day before the House of Representatives is slated to vote on Articles of Impeachment against President Donald John Trump, and while Democrats in Congress are impressing upon the public this is a solemn responsibility in which they take no joy, many voters are feeli...
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[17-Dec-19 03:52 PM] illumnious#7938
boy bye


[17-Dec-19 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnnlive/


[17-Dec-19 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
thanks


[17-Dec-19 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the stream cant stand collins, it keeps cutting out


[17-Dec-19 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Dec-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/11/rudy-hires-new-lawyers-to-stand-by-helplessly-and-watch-him-admit-to-crimes-on-twitter

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Rudy Hires New Lawyers To Stand By Helplessly And Watch Him Admit ...
Yeah, that'll fix it.
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[17-Dec-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.multichannel.com/.amp/news/network-security-act-passes-house?


[17-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is every GOP speaker so god damned obnoxious


[17-Dec-19 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So theatrical


[17-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
wastes time


[17-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
puts on a show for trump's base (they love theatrics)


[17-Dec-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s the point, it;s to be as obnoxious as possible while wasting the clock


[17-Dec-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gives their senate colleagues mroe time to prepare to suck trumps putin coated cocksicle


[17-Dec-19 08:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedailybeast.com/whoopi-goldberg-tears-into-meghan-mccain-tells-her-girl-please-stop-talking

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Whoopi Tears Into Meghan McCain: ‘Girl, Please Stop Talking!’
The on-air fight got so intense that McCain threatened not to talk for the rest of the show.
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[17-Dec-19 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment desperately needs SCOTUS to rule that Trump can't blokk the subpoenas.


[17-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's ridiculous they're even taking up the cases to begin with, this was supposed to be settled ages ago with Nixon.


[17-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Gorsuch and Kavanaugh just go "yeah well executive privilege, no testimony, haha president is a king actually", then I don't need to even go into the problems caused by that precedent.


[17-Dec-19 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Did someone say Megahn McCain? https://youtu.be/GUKiwbiilzs

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[17-Dec-19 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Dec-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[17-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_remembers the good old days of rubber bands, a stick, and a clothesline pincer_


[17-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
zoomers smh


[17-Dec-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was a boomer decision


[17-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
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[17-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
> When ur school shooting on a budget


[17-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can probably get a MAC-10 for less than it costs to build that


[17-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/products/vmac-pistol-for-sale-9mm


[17-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
I highly doubt that lol, skimmed how he made it, need a hot glue gun, some cardboard, a little motor, some dowel things, a bent spring-like metal wire thing, a trigger, and a battery


[17-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
$369.00


[17-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
M16 - took a loan against house.
Ak47  - bought with paycheck
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[17-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's clean


[17-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
the cardboard uzi looks like it might cost $40 at most


[17-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeh but factor in labour costs =p


[17-Dec-19 09:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
$70 and however much Nintendo tries to sue your ass for.


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[17-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But I think it can be bypassed.


[17-Dec-19 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Dec-19 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww what an adorable horrifying dystopia


[17-Dec-19 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
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[17-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
what's "rocket.foal.party"?


[17-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
oh, rocket chat


[17-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[17-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>yesterdays news


[17-Dec-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39187929

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[17-Dec-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
\> BBC journalists requested an interview with Facebook because they weren't removing child abuse photos. Facebook asked to be sent the photos as proof. When journalists sent the photos, Facebook reported the them to the police because distributing child abuse imagery is illegal.


[17-Dec-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
cool


[17-Dec-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
thanks


[17-Dec-19 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
very nice facebook


[17-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
> Isn't requesting said images just as illegal?


[17-Dec-19 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[17-Dec-19 10:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/afghanistan-papers-confirm-that-the-longest-war-is-a-lie/


[17-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, fair enough.


[17-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
nosy people get their nose bruised. *shrug* Might not agree but I understand the logic


[17-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
also > yesterday news @ Psker :P


[17-Dec-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Dec-19 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
(pinned)


[17-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Burning noses for this metaphor should be highly illegal.


[17-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
90% of the stuff you write here you delete Opponent


[17-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's kind of odd


[17-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I write things impulsively, then think - do they actually add anything to the discource?


[17-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
if the answer is no, I remove it.


[17-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Practically nothing here does


[17-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
...yes, but sometimes it's more obvious than usual.


[17-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Often enough the most trite content is what brings forth the most substantial


[17-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll stop. I've seen people annoyed by me doing it before.


[17-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, the issue for me is I may start a reply, then realize I'd be replying to nothing


[17-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Sorry.


[17-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Opponent#3498
...in the spirit of that...


[17-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Opponent#3498
```Nearly $10 billion was spent on arming and training Afghan forces. ```
Well, at least Ukraine seems to put the money provided to more constructive uses.


[17-Dec-19 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-armenian-genocide-erdogan-turkey-native-americans-a9250281.html

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Trump refuses to back recognition of Armenian genocide after Erdog...
Bipartisan Senate resolution passed in defiance of US president
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[17-Dec-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump gonna have to grab himself now


[17-Dec-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
He's the pussy


[17-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
amazing


[17-Dec-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Too bad the recognition has a vetoproof majority


[17-Dec-19 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/gw34kyn5y6541.jpg

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[17-Dec-19 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Dying earth generation https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/climate/methane-leak-satellite.html

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By Hiroko Tabuchi
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/climate/methane-leak-satellite.html
A Methane Leak, Seen From Space, Proves to Be Far Larger Than Thought
The  findings mark a step forward in using space technology to detect leaks of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, from oil and gas sites worldwide.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/13/climate/00cli-methane-promo/00cli-methane-promo-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Dec-19 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Capitalists: "Socialism doesn't account for human selfishne-" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-04/gdp-q3-2019/11761428

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-04/gdp-q3-2019/11761428
If you're saving like Gretta, you could be accidentally hurting th...
Australians are hurting the economy by not spending, with household savings soaring as consumer spending plummets to its lowest level since the global financial crisis.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11766088-16x9-700x394.jpg


[17-Dec-19 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Capitalists: "STOP BEING SO SELFISH AND SPEND"


[17-Dec-19 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'd spend but you ate all the money


[18-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck consumer spending


[18-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Consumer spends, consumer loses job, consumer has no money, consumer stops consuming, consumer doesn't matter, consumer dies


[18-Dec-19 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/possible-mass-grave-1921-tulsa-race-massacre-found-researchers-n1102781

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Possible mass grave from 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre found by researchers
Experts in Oklahoma believe they found a mass grave site from the deadly race riots, recently recreated in HBO's "Watchmen."
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_43/3061376/191021-tulsa-race-riot-mn-1025_67304f5a9245a76010d41a9efb48e6dd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-Dec-19 12:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Mass graves? In MY America?"


[18-Dec-19 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
it's more likely than you think


[18-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Whoops" -DoD


[18-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
A comment from the screenshot post:


[18-Dec-19 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
> As an aside, some comrades and I are doing some research and that pic is a colorized version of the original. The colorized version was done by a ‘Tobias Kurtz’. Judging by some of his work on Deviant Art he’s a full blown Nazi.
> The interesting thing is that we can find the original photo of Peiper, but are having quite a bit of trouble finding Kurtz’s colorized version. Leading us to believe this was lent or given personally maybe or at least the two are connected in some way. In other words, it is no mistake that he used this photo. It was blatant and there to convey meaning.
> This is actionable.


[18-Dec-19 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk https://i.imgur.com/AA6leOo.png

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Pls spend, No Wage, Only Spend
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[18-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
``` Leading us to believe this was lent or given personally maybe or at least the two are connected in some way.```


[18-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, any circumstantial evidence, no matter how slim, is good enough when the opposition is guilty by default.


[18-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I found the colorized version on imgur by reverse searching that image you posted on google images https://imgur.com/6cE3Q3e

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Sturmbannführer Peiper was so dreamy.
https://i.imgur.com/6cE3Q3e.png


[18-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Circumstantial evidence is still evidence.


[18-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most evidence is circumstantial.


[18-Dec-19 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/us/Student-body-slammed-school.html

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By Neil Vigdor
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/us/Student-body-slammed-school.html
Deputy Sheriff No Longer With Department After Body-Slamming Stude...
State investigators in North Carolina are reviewing the case to determine whether criminal charges will be filed against the deputy.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/16/multimedia/16xp-deputy/16xp-deputy-facebookJumbo.png


[18-Dec-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
why is america like this


[18-Dec-19 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
because money


[18-Dec-19 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theroot.com/sen-mitch-mcconnell-doesn-t-want-dems-to-call-witnesse-1840486222 pfft

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Sen. Mitch McConnell Doesn’t Want Dems to Call Witnesses During ...
On Tuesday, Sen. Mitch “Turtleneck” McConnell (R-Ky.) continued his mission to ruin the impeachment proceedings in the Senate by rejecting Democrats’ demands to have four White House officials called as witnesses because Mitch McConnell is a whole bitch.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_675,pg_1,q_80,w_1200/fcm1cy81i7r4b96uwt9f.jpg


[18-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
"whole bitch" lmao


[18-Dec-19 04:33 AM] illumnious#7938
hue


[18-Dec-19 02:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gradient


[18-Dec-19 02:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Saturation


[18-Dec-19 02:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
More politics and engineering intersecting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcriPJKPdI

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Well There's Your Problem Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcriPJKPdI
Well There's Your Problem | Episode 10: Roads for Rails - the Newf...
Today @aliceavizandum, @oldmananders0n, and @donoteat1 are joined by @seanrade to examine the closure of Newfoundland's railway, why it was completely unjustified, and what may come in the future. Also we mispronounce words.

listen to trashfuture: https://trashfuturepodcast....
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lMcriPJKPdI/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Dec-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-12-18-2019/index.html

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Impeachment vote: Live updates - CNNPolitics
President Trump is poised to become the third president in history to be impeached. Follow here for the latest.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191111203630-01-trump-2017-file-super-tease.jpg


[18-Dec-19 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnnlive/ if you want their random commentary


[18-Dec-19 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unsurprisingly republicans started the day by voting to just kill the motion, voting in block


[18-Dec-19 03:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And here we go with counting every vote over every time wasting motion


[18-Dec-19 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm tempted to watch, but i know if i do i'll just go mind numbingly insane


[18-Dec-19 04:17 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh man this is gonna be a long day... I've got C-SPAN in another tab, and oh god the horror


[18-Dec-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this congress is an eldritch cult that induces insanity via repeated chanting


[18-Dec-19 04:22 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
...yeah, US politics is a shitshow. Listening to a dinosaur from Oklahoma drone on about partisan politics.


[18-Dec-19 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You fuckers should be bipartisan about everything!" *goes on to be absolutely partisan about everythng*


[18-Dec-19 04:23 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
yep


[18-Dec-19 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They wont accept our request for more debate time" bitch there is no debate it;s you guys spouting the same 5 lines over and over again via gregorian chanting


[18-Dec-19 04:24 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
They also have ALL DAY to debate


[18-Dec-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump hasnt been allowed to speak" They fucking invited him to do so on day one


[18-Dec-19 04:27 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I do like the guy on now- quoting Payne is 👌


[18-Dec-19 04:28 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Hot damn talking about Bastogne, too, this guy is going for the grandstanding.


[18-Dec-19 04:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, there we go, the republican request that every member have to state their vote individually in front of a camera


[18-Dec-19 04:32 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
What are they trying to accomplish? It hurts them just as much.


[18-Dec-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stalling


[18-Dec-19 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are stalling so the senate has time to prepare to ramrod the impeachment bill through unsupported


[18-Dec-19 04:34 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The Senate would never pass that.


[18-Dec-19 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, they are preparing to ramrod the bill intot he ground


[18-Dec-19 04:35 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Ah, you mean never schedule it for debate.


[18-Dec-19 04:35 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I believe impeachment works differently- Senate rules do not trump the Constitution.


[18-Dec-19 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a big stall tactic so mcconnell can get his strategy in place


[18-Dec-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blah blah blah bitter political division as if we didnt want to impeach obama day one blah blah blah


[18-Dec-19 04:36 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
What's McConnell's plan, then? Get it on the floor to defeat it as soon as possible, I assume. They have the numbers.


[18-Dec-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but thye have to make it look good for re-election purposes


[18-Dec-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means rehearsing theatrics


[18-Dec-19 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lindsey graham is not helping at all with that and neither is mcconnell


[18-Dec-19 04:38 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Grandstanding? Not the time for it. Dems can do it to, and there's enough Rs up for Senate re-election next year they might not be able to break a filibuster.


[18-Dec-19 04:40 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh my god their defense is "yeah well you can't *prove* it"


[18-Dec-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s rigged agaisnt you because you refuse to work with it


[18-Dec-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the theatrics isnt for grandstanding, it;s base brainwashing for any coservative voters watching


[18-Dec-19 04:42 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I just can't with these speeches. So. Fucking. Fallacious. Cherry picking facts, ignoring context...


[18-Dec-19 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Repeat a talking point often enough it becomes fact


[18-Dec-19 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Much faster if you start it off with "Everyone's saying" or "Americans know"


[18-Dec-19 04:42 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Also every impeachment is partisan, Reps did the same thing to Clinton


[18-Dec-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would have done the same to obama if he had done anything of impeachable offense


[18-Dec-19 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a heartbeat


[18-Dec-19 04:43 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
~~and he did, arguably~~


[18-Dec-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i;m watching you make an ass of yourself


[18-Dec-19 04:47 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Me?


[18-Dec-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no the guy who said "america is watching us"


[18-Dec-19 04:47 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Ah. Yeah.


[18-Dec-19 04:47 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
"R-Alabama" isn't a great look.


[18-Dec-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But what about obammer!"


[18-Dec-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my stream keeps cutting out


[18-Dec-19 04:49 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
TBH I don't know why the Reps aren't cutting Trump loose to die. It's hurting them now, he's decisively unpopular with their precious Silent Majority


[18-Dec-19 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite frankly if obama committed those crimes thne we can bring his ass totrial, but it wont be an impeachment trial because he isnt president anymore, and any evidence you get form giuliani is unusable and tainted


[18-Dec-19 04:51 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I was talking about war crimes, which probably aren't impeachable because reasons.


[18-Dec-19 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was tqalking about the republicans who keep harping that obama or biden should be brought to trial


[18-Dec-19 04:52 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I know. I was continuing my point that there are things he was never held accountable.


[18-Dec-19 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, and they should open a proper fbi investigation intot hose


[18-Dec-19 04:52 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Above FBI, this is UN-level stuff.


[18-Dec-19 04:52 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
We didn't let Germans try the Nazis, after all.


[18-Dec-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, but the fbi is our jurisdiction of investigation, they can bring the case to the UN once thye have all the facts


[18-Dec-19 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is the stream cuttign out constantly fdor anyone else?


[18-Dec-19 04:53 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
It also involves the armed forces, which are sorta out of the FBI's purview.


[18-Dec-19 04:53 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
And my stream is fine.


[18-Dec-19 04:54 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefMKNOCZ3Y

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C-SPAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefMKNOCZ3Y
U.S. House: Debate & Vote on Articles of Impeachment
The House Rules Committee debates and votes on two articles of impeachment against President Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. https://cs.pn/35nrhmo
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fefMKNOCZ3Y/maxresdefault_live.jpg


[18-Dec-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it does but the fbi needs to open the investigation before the armed forces get involved int he case


[18-Dec-19 04:56 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I still don't know if US institutions should be involved beyond cooperating with such an investigation. No matter how virtuous the FBI may be, they just are not right for that job.


[18-Dec-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how?


[18-Dec-19 04:57 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
War crimes are an international issue, Americans should not investigate Americans- the precedent being Nuremberg, of course.


[18-Dec-19 04:57 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The FBI could do its own work, but there should be a higher level inquiry, too.


[18-Dec-19 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
war crimes are judged by the victors.


[18-Dec-19 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
as soon as US loses a war again, you can be sure they'll be investigated :D


[18-Dec-19 04:59 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Which is wrong, but a better system is hard to create.


[18-Dec-19 05:00 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Hypothetically, the Hague should do it- and I think they tried the US a few times, but scapegoats were found.


[18-Dec-19 05:00 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The House of Kennedy on the stand, hoo boy


[18-Dec-19 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
interpol would also have to get involved


[18-Dec-19 05:04 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Of course, but there should be an organization dedicated to war crimes and crimes against humanities specifically.


[18-Dec-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

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International Criminal Court
The International Criminal Court (ICC or ICCt) is an intergovernmental organization and international tribunal that sits in The Hague, Netherlands. The ICC has jurisdiction to prosecute individuals for the international crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes,...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/International_Criminal_Court_logo.svg/1200px-International_Criminal_Court_logo.svg.png


[18-Dec-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp i was wrogn about the fbi i guess


[18-Dec-19 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[18-Dec-19 05:06 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
:twismug:


[18-Dec-19 05:23 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
A vote to... vote on having a vote to vote on the vote?

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[18-Dec-19 05:44 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Tennessee caller misquoting the Bible is on-brand for Tennessee.


[18-Dec-19 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd ask who gives a rats ass about a two millenium old book full of obvious bullshit and misrepresentations


[18-Dec-19 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
but apparently the answer is over 60% of the country


[18-Dec-19 05:53 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
She forgot "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." That's, like, a super famous quote.


[18-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
GA


[18-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a law in the US


[18-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
where for any US person to be put on trial for war crimes in the Hague


[18-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the US has to agree


[18-Dec-19 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
or the US automatically goes to war with the Netherlands


[18-Dec-19 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thinking that international law is above FBI level stuff is pretty naive; we're the world superpower that hosts the UN, remember.


[18-Dec-19 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
We pretty much consider ourselves to BE the decider on international law.


[18-Dec-19 05:58 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I know this. It should be different.


[18-Dec-19 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Processwise, you must realize that it's basically impossible to do shit about Trump committing war crimes


[18-Dec-19 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
impeachment is the only remedy and only this new scandal the public thinks qualifies.


[18-Dec-19 06:00 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I wasn't talking about Trump


[18-Dec-19 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well the thing to realize is most people in the US think obstruction of justice isn't a crime worthy of punishment, as long as you're white, but a blakk guy having a barbecue means you should call the cops.


[18-Dec-19 06:03 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Be careful with the word "most," most of the Senators think that, but population centers on the coasts are different.


[18-Dec-19 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm using it correctly here.


[18-Dec-19 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Support for impeaching Trump did not arise when he had merely massively obstructed justice.


[18-Dec-19 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The polling only shows 50% support *now*, which is still better than with Nixon.


[18-Dec-19 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, boomers do not believe the president should be held accountable, ever.


[18-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And to them, the criminal justice system is for imprisoning people who move to the wrong neighborhood.


[18-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not "wasting taxpayer money" on "good white boys"


[18-Dec-19 06:06 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Things are changing as the boomers die off. Give it 20 years. It won't be perfect, but better.


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Try every living US president for war crimes.


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
And every congressman


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the judges for not enforcing the native treaties


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Try the whole government


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
And have a Nurembourg level execution


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
That's... not how warcrimes work.


[18-Dec-19 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
:glowing_eyes:


[18-Dec-19 06:09 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
You limit it to the people at the top, and these aren't execution-worthy.


[18-Dec-19 06:12 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
And debate has started!


[18-Dec-19 06:18 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Sigh. Obligatory Ace Combat shitpost "CoMe DaNcE wItH tHe AnGeLs"


[18-Dec-19 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could give it 20 years but given current goals of certain parties, we could be a fucking monarchy in 20 years


[18-Dec-19 06:19 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Maybe we should use Britain's system of a parliament with a constitutional monarch- we could have an elected monarch, of course.


[18-Dec-19 06:20 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Every 10 years a new "ruler:"


[18-Dec-19 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that once it became a monarchy, there would be nothign stopping who ever is in charge from aboloshing elections and making it a gene based monarchy


[18-Dec-19 06:20 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Well, there is, we just don't give them that power. Figurehead monarchy.


[18-Dec-19 06:21 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
They exist to make the executive's life easier, not to actually do stuff.


[18-Dec-19 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is already attempting to establish a geneial monarchy using his children in various positions of power


[18-Dec-19 06:22 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
That's not gonna work out for him. You need someone more popular for that to work


[18-Dec-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that dfepends on next years senate election, because right now there's no length of cock mitch won;t suck for trump which means no oen is holding him tot he rules except the house


[18-Dec-19 06:23 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The Senate needs to stripped of its powers, it's not helping anyone anymore.


[18-Dec-19 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jared kushner, trump's son in law is also pretty much the guy in charge of foreign affairs at this point


[18-Dec-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump doesnt use the actuall office of foreign affairs, he puts everything thorugh his son in law


[18-Dec-19 06:25 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Which is temporary.


[18-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
until it;s not :hopeless:


[18-Dec-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr is also holding all of the justice dapartments hostage with threat of firing anyone who dares to attempt an investigation into trump


[18-Dec-19 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
The Senate should have never had power in the first place


[18-Dec-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
It was a compromise to appease the South


[18-Dec-19 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
never fucking appease the South


[18-Dec-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if trump attempts to over rule any election results next year


[18-Dec-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
he might


[18-Dec-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
that's when the military need to come in


[18-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big question right now is when more witnesses will come in.


[18-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giuliani isn't going to come willingly.


[18-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
McGahn's case could easily end up at SCOTUS and take literally all year.


[18-Dec-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like right now it's up to the Senate having some Republicans break ranks and ask for Mulvaney etc., but wouldn't that ALSO need to go thru the courts?


[18-Dec-19 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Executive privilege shouldn't exist.


[18-Dec-19 06:38 PM] jlun2#8758
Taking 3 hours to automate a task that takes less than a minute makes me feel retarded


[18-Dec-19 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[18-Dec-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
#general-discussion


[18-Dec-19 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
also https://xkcd.com/1319/

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xkcd: Automation
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'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.


[18-Dec-19 06:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  oh oops ty


[18-Dec-19 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c39b5a509f4cb63caeff57bd242b316e

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Mexico president opposes bill to end church-state separation
MEXICO CITY (AP) — President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Wednesday he does not support a proposal to further relax Mexico's strict legal separation of church and state, throwing cold water on...
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[18-Dec-19 06:57 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-comes-completely-unglued-with-all-caps-tweet-screaming-about-impeachment/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump comes completely unglued with all-caps tweet screaming about...
President Donald Trump reacted with an all-caps rant to speeches by two Democratic lawmakers who had emigrated to the U.S. as children. Trump has been tweeting periodically as the House of Representatives debates impeachment, but he blew up after speeches by Rep. Pramila Jaya...
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[18-Dec-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I DID NAWT HIT HER! I DID NAWT! Oh, hi Mitch


[18-Dec-19 07:03 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Seriously lol


[18-Dec-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
REEEEE


[18-Dec-19 07:03 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Also mad props to the guy who just did his speech in Spanish


[18-Dec-19 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw i missed that


[18-Dec-19 07:03 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
D-CA


[18-Dec-19 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Russia did it but trump isnt with russia and yet russia did it, you all saw it!"


[18-Dec-19 07:13 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
eeyup


[18-Dec-19 07:21 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh look, a map. Remember that population density is not equal across the States, friends.


[18-Dec-19 07:22 PM] Litrojia#0612
best/worst speaker so far


[18-Dec-19 07:22 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
"They are afraid of us!" lolwut


[18-Dec-19 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who said that?


[18-Dec-19 07:24 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The guy with da map


[18-Dec-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which guy with the map?


[18-Dec-19 07:25 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The Republican who was yelling about how Dems were afraid of Reps?


[18-Dec-19 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve been tuning in and out


[18-Dec-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still dont knwo who that is


[18-Dec-19 07:26 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I'm not watching, just listening, so I can't say.


[18-Dec-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[18-Dec-19 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve been lsitening in small doses because if i try to listen in full then i'll go fucking insane


[18-Dec-19 07:27 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Fair. It's kind of my background noise rn


[18-Dec-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans office is basically "Them dems are tryin to take our power!"


[18-Dec-19 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We earned that power!"


[18-Dec-19 07:29 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Unironically making the snowflakes argument


[18-Dec-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of us dont even think hillary should be president


[18-Dec-19 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she would make a terrible president, she;s too image motivated


[18-Dec-19 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we impeach one president, we'll impeach them all!"


[18-Dec-19 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can try and impeach them all it doesnt change trump's bullshit though


[18-Dec-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically what you're saying is you;re pulling a friend favor?


[18-Dec-19 07:35 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Like, they don't deny that he did it either


[18-Dec-19 07:35 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
They admit he pressured Ukraine


[18-Dec-19 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their argument is that since he;s a king he;s above the law


[18-Dec-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they;re stalling as logn as they can to keep the articles at bay


[18-Dec-19 07:38 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
It won't work, they've got till tonight


[18-Dec-19 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:faceclaw:


[18-Dec-19 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Dec-19 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
> Is that why Mitch McConnel has that "neck pouch"?
> Imagine his gullet tickling the back of your neck as he sensually chews lettuce in your ear.


[18-Dec-19 07:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/us/latter-day-saints-charity-funds-complaint/index.html

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Mormon Church accused of stockpiling billions, avoiding paying taxes
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred to as the Mormon Church, responded Tuesday to a whistleblower complaint that accuses the church of stockpiling $100 billion in accounts intended for charitable works.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161230132040-mormon-tabernacle-choir-super-tease.jpg


[18-Dec-19 07:57 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
This person gave this speech before. Why is she doing it again?


[18-Dec-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because steve chabot is a woman of prostitution


[18-Dec-19 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as is roger marshall


[18-Dec-19 08:05 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
"Impotent rage, activate!"


[18-Dec-19 08:05 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
White boi indignant principles is fun


[18-Dec-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would like to motion fuck that guy


[18-Dec-19 08:06 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
No lube


[18-Dec-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his blood is fine lube


[18-Dec-19 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm glad i;m not a congressman, i would have been escorted out for physically attacking a republican by now


[18-Dec-19 08:08 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
AFAIK, there is no rule saying you cannot appear in Congress armed as a knight, with sword and shield.


[18-Dec-19 08:08 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Parliament is smart enough to have that rule, I don't think we are.


[18-Dec-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically america still has the duel lawsfrom the 1800s


[18-Dec-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it jsut requires bioth parties consent to it


[18-Dec-19 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that's super unlikely to happen


[18-Dec-19 08:10 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I'd love to see it


[18-Dec-19 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trial by combat is also an option but no judge takes it seriously anyumore so it never gets used


[18-Dec-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is sad because it would make corporate cases so much better


[18-Dec-19 08:11 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Who would win: CEO of McDonald's or CEO of Alphabet


[18-Dec-19 08:11 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh god mentioning Bible stories unironically


[18-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good religion


[18-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
again he was invited to testify under oath multiple times


[18-Dec-19 08:14 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
"Brian Babin" is the most R-TX name ever


[18-Dec-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HA


[18-Dec-19 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's bullshit


[18-Dec-19 08:15 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Man these names are fun to read


[18-Dec-19 08:15 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Cuz the speeches are all the same


[18-Dec-19 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Dec-19 08:17 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
OH BOI THIS DUDE IS DONE


[18-Dec-19 08:17 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Don't represent several college towns and try this shit


[18-Dec-19 08:17 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Especially when one of them was *founded by Thomas Jefferson*


[18-Dec-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
democrats likely passed atleast 200 of those very bills, mitch mcconnell meanwhile hoards thme on his desk and refuses to look at them


[18-Dec-19 08:18 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh for sure


[18-Dec-19 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch mcconnell is a whole bitch


[18-Dec-19 08:18 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Oh fuck he said it

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[18-Dec-19 08:26 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
"But we didn't impeach Obama" well yeah he didn't do anything.


[18-Dec-19 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We don;t want to be remembered for expletives about the president" "Ey go fuck yourself!"


[18-Dec-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we still have 4 hours left?


[18-Dec-19 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[18-Dec-19 08:40 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
It's gonna be a long day


[18-Dec-19 08:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/17/nasa-x59-supersonic-jet-assembly/

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NASA’s X-59 supersonic jet is cleared for final assembly
NASA's ultra-quiet X-59 supersonic jet could fly as soon as 2021.
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[18-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"coerced into abortion by planned parenthood"
"fooled by the false notion of choice"
Republicans are amazing


[18-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/business/china-pigs-african-swine-fever.html

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China Responds Slowly, and a Pig Disease Becomes a Lethal Epidemic
The bungled effort to contain African swine fever could result in higher Chinese food costs for years and shows the limits of Beijing’s top-down approach to problems.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/02/business/00chinapigs-1/00chinapigs-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[18-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Joey Salads promised he would remove one of his testicles surgically if Trump got impeached


[18-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not if he was removed from office, but impeached.


[18-Dec-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is joey salads?


[18-Dec-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[18-Dec-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet he'll renege saying that what he meant was "removed" like a coward


[18-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Ukraine invaded Georgia"


[18-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Opponent explain yourself

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[18-Dec-19 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I am deeply dissapointed that i have to stop my doing nothing to repeat the same lie over and over again because i woudl rather be doing nothing right now and gettign paid to do nothing"


[18-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
http://prntscr.com/qcp5wf

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[18-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/656923894292152342/election-map-by-county.png

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[18-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
this timeline is horrible, meme graphics are being used unironically in politics


[18-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://qz.com/1769696/how-hong-kongs-high-tech-protest-tactics-avoid-mass-surveillance/

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Hong Kong is showing the world how to protest anonymously in an er...
Protesters around the world are using technology in new ways to organize anonymously and without leaders.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/BC207_Thumb.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[18-Dec-19 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow love it when Republicans try to appropriate anti-gerrymandering discourse in the dumbest, most self-contradictory way possible


[18-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: land shouldn't vote


[18-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke: the coasts should be allowed to let the ocean vote


[18-Dec-19 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bespoke: outer space should vote


[18-Dec-19 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Including the aliens


[18-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-didnt-transform-the-economy-its-mostly-the-same-as-it-was-under-obama-2019-11-12

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Trump didn’t transform the economy — it’s mostly the same as...
But the current president has used a lot of money from the Treasury as stimulus.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-FZ463_17trum_ZG_20171203161517.jpg


[18-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2019/11/12/Photos/MG/MW-HV124_nuttin_20191112140745_MG.png
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[18-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Crow#5457
> By most measures, the economy of today is little changed from the economy he inherited in early 2017. Job growth is a little slower, but gross domestic product (GDP) growth is a little faster.


[18-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
> And that’s really good news for Trump. There is no shame in keeping the economy on a gradual, upward glide path. It’s nearly impossible for a president’s policies to radically improve the U.S. economy, but there are many ways for a president to mess it up.


[18-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
> The potential growth rate of the economy, which he promised to transform with smart pro-business polices such tax cuts and deregulation, hasn’t budged an inch.


[18-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
so it turns out both tax cuts and deregulation have basically no short-term effect on the economy


[18-Dec-19 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, just the consumers with in it


[18-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone should probably start buying PPEs for citizen use


[18-Dec-19 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-think-theres-enough-evidence-to-impeach-trump/

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Most Americans Think There’s Enough Evidence To Impeach Trump
The House of Representatives is on the brink of making President Trump the third president in U.S. history to be impeached. It will likely be a deeply divided v…
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[18-Dec-19 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They're using synonyms! That means their arguements are weak! We could impeach george washington with synonyms, that invalidates the impeachment!"


[18-Dec-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"due process"


[18-Dec-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the good ol' projection speech


[18-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-nerds-and-nurses-are-taking-over-the-u-s-economy

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Why Nerds and Nurses Are Taking Over the U.S. Economy - The Atlant...
A blockbuster report from government economists forecasts the workforce of 2026—a world of robot cashiers, well-paid math nerds, and so (so, so, so) many healthcare workers.
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[18-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/29/624467256/what-happened-with-merrick-garland-in-2016-and-why-it-matters-now

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What Happened With Merrick Garland In 2016 And Why It Matters Now
Back then, Mitch McConnell boasted: "One of my proudest moments was when I looked Barack Obama in the eye and I said, 'Mr. President, you will not fill the Supreme Court vacancy.' "
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[18-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
old, but still relevant


[18-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iraqs-government-linked-to-murder-as-protest-leaders-assassinated-611217

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Iraq’s government linked to murder as protest leaders assassinated
At the same time, there have been a plethora of kidnappings and assassinations of activists, with media outlets also being intimidated.
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[18-Dec-19 11:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Uhhh

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[18-Dec-19 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[18-Dec-19 11:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Jesus


[18-Dec-19 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://deadline.com/2019/12/donald-trump-impeachment-4-1202812552/

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Impeachment TV: Former Republican Justin Amash Says Trump Must Be ...
UPDATE, 1:54 PM PT: Rep. Justin Amash, an independent who left the Republican party during the summer, said on the floor of the House that President Donald Trump should be impeached. “Impeach…
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[18-Dec-19 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the lacross baby is talking


[18-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay do these people think there might be a bit of hyperbole


[18-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus was crucified and Pearl Harbor had like 2000 people die


[18-Dec-19 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"She said the naughty word!"


[18-Dec-19 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/alanrmacleod/status/1207386041293955073

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https://twitter.com/alanrmacleod/status/1207386041293955073
It's official: the new Bolivian government has sent out an arrest warrant for Evo Morales.
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[18-Dec-19 11:09 PM] illumnious#7938
It would be lovely if you translate that to English


[18-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/GregSoriano5/status/1207410086995345409

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Greg Soriano (@GregSoriano5)
https://twitter.com/GregSoriano5/status/1207410086995345409
Republican congressman says Jesus had more due process before crucifixion than trump.That comes straight fm the lips of the crybaby trump https://t.co/oeqNzdWs7g #SmartNews
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[18-Dec-19 11:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well it's what the comment says


[18-Dec-19 11:10 PM] illumnious#7938
What a crybaby


[18-Dec-19 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
calling it now, trumps next bunch of tweets will be religious based crying about how he should be treated like jesus


[18-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/GregSoriano5/status/1207410397633904640

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Greg Soriano (@GregSoriano5)
https://twitter.com/GregSoriano5/status/1207410397633904640
The White House said trump 'will be working all day.' Instead he's been angrily tweeting about impeachment. Don't cry baby https://t.co/Msnlh6Wl5b #SmartNews
Twitter


[18-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
literal crybaby


[18-Dec-19 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/baby-crying-gif-5943733

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baby crying
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[18-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
lol calm down


[18-Dec-19 11:14 PM] illumnious#7938
*Working hard or hardly working?*


[18-Dec-19 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
working hard on those thumb exercises


[18-Dec-19 11:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/mattgertz/status/1207356397547147264

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Tweeted eight minutes apart.
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[18-Dec-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"The president will be working all day"


[18-Dec-19 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hoo boy


[18-Dec-19 11:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I guess campaigning for your party by shitposting on twitter about your opposition is technically working.


[18-Dec-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/michaelsayman/status/1207040733108219914

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Michael Sayman (@michaelsayman)
https://twitter.com/michaelsayman/status/1207040733108219914
Imagine if Spotify was like U.S. healthcare:

- Pay $9.99/mo premium for some music
- Pay $7 per song listen til you spend $100, after that it's included (resets each yr)
- Pay $0.49 copay every listening session
- If you get fired, we cancel your Spotify & songs cost $999...
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[18-Dec-19 11:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.forbes.com/sites/unicefusa/2019/12/17/afghanistan-is-the-worlds-most-lethal-war-zone-for-children/

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Afghanistan Is the World’s Most Lethal War Zone For Children
After 40 years of conflict, Afghanistan is one of the most dangerous countries on the planet for a child.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/600x315/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5df92c8825ab5d0007cea55c%2F960x0.jpg


[18-Dec-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"IF I YELL WHAT I'M SAYING IT MUST BE TRUE!"


[18-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So one thing to note about the vs. Obama trend comparison


[18-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism's key effect is higher GDP growth but consumers/workers getting stiffed


[18-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
One key insight is something I realized while trying to explain the problem with it to an absolute nincompoop a few days ago


[18-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, he kept asking about wealth generation, because he was repeating the usual neoliberal RICH PEOPLE ARE WHERE WEALTH COMES FROM WE MUST PANDER TO THEM OR ALL OF US WILL BE POOR


[18-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, workers ultimately generate wealth, as productivity


[18-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, the wealth they generate goes to the rich, and under normal circumstances, a portion returns to them as wages


[18-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
the divergence of the rate of growth of productivity and wages is literally telling us that **the rich are not fairly compensating workers for the wealth they generate**.


[18-Dec-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, neoliberalism generates more wealth, but then givs less of it bakk to workers.


[18-Dec-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the GDP growth going up a bit from Obama's trend, but jobs going down a bit is actually a sign Trump's laws *hav* had an effect...an effect of making the problem worse.


[18-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buD2RM0xChM

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SHAMIEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buD2RM0xChM
(Full version) Jordan Peterson vs Peter Jordanson
#JordanPeterson #PeterJordanson #JoeRogan
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[18-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.kxan.com/news/highway-robberies-on-the-rise-in-mexico-as-drug-cartels-target-holiday-travelers/

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russellfalcon
https://www.kxan.com/news/highway-robberies-on-the-rise-in-mexico-as-drug-cartels-target-holiday-travelers/
Highway robberies on the rise in Mexico as drug cartels target hol...
Highway robbery in Mexico tends to spike around the Christmas and Easter holidays, when tens of thousands of U.S. residents venture south to visit family members, often bearing gifts that make them…
https://www.kxan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/12/mexico-highway-2.jpg?w=640


[18-Dec-19 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1207434958588932096

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1207434958588932096
THANK YOU! #KAG https://t.co/CltmJQdm1t
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[19-Dec-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d call them brown nosers but it missed their noses and went straight for their mouths...


[19-Dec-19 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6jxjKPNZQ

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Trolligarch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6jxjKPNZQ
How Habbo Hotel Turned Its Players Into Ruthless Teenage Capitalists
Habbo describes itself as the "world's largest community for teens". It is essentially a glorified chatroom where players would have little avatars who can chat with other people and visit other rooms. However, the way the game was set up has led to this innocent game targete...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hE6jxjKPNZQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[19-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dw real life monetary value of in-game currency turns seemingly innocent video game into anarcho-capitalist nightmare


[19-Dec-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pool's closed


[19-Dec-19 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ur mum's pussy is closed

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[19-Dec-19 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(I actually had a potential date go south one time because her idea of a "fun activity together" was to join a habbo hotel raid)


[19-Dec-19 12:39 AM] Macarou#9574
What a frightening game.


[19-Dec-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[19-Dec-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
there's been a jump in trump approval rating the past couple days


[19-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Support for impeachment/removal is 48/48 for/against


[19-Dec-19 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every election from now on is just going to be decided on razor thin margins


[19-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
from 41.9% approve/53.2% disapprove on december 12 to 43.4% approve/52.2% disapprove on december 18


[19-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Republicans are eating up the fallacious reasoning their senators are using.


[19-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as people with actual education are all saying "yeah he needs to go"


[19-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem is not getting more witnesses.


[19-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very easy for conservative-leaning independents to just buy into that Dems are tainted and rushing too much.


[19-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Mulvaney got put up to testify things would be very different.


[19-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans hav essentially created a scenario now where they can obstruct justice all they want, then claim that since no evidence was found, all Republicans are innocent.


[19-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/opinion/trump-impeachment-clinton.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/opinion/trump-impeachment-clinton.html
Opinion | The Republican Party Is Completely Behind President Trump
Democrats never gave Bill Clinton a free pass. Why are Republicans giving one to Donald Trump?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/12/18/opinion/18Lockhart/18Lockhart-facebookJumbo.jpg


[19-Dec-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is their central support beam, their golden egg basket if you will


[19-Dec-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are taking on water, and all their eggs are in a very nonbouyant basket. unfortunately thye will probably survive this for the moment :hopeless:


[19-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is that 4 of them break rank in the Senate and it turns into a disaster for Moscow Mitch.


[19-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, secret vote plus calling Mulvaney and Giuliani to testify


[19-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd be utterly over for Mitch.


[19-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts probably can't expel him during voting, but he could muzzle him.


[19-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/475211-republicans-boo-schiff-on-house-floor-ahead-of-impeachment-vote

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Republicans boo Schiff on House floor ahead of impeachment vote
Republican lawmakers booed Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schiffadam_120319gn8_lead.jpg


[19-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's way more than four that would break rank.


[19-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it won't happen


[19-Dec-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans are booing now...


[19-Dec-19 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is the "debate" over now?


[19-Dec-19 01:33 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Nope, wrapping up as leadership speaks.


[19-Dec-19 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was 8 hours of people syaing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over


[19-Dec-19 01:33 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Steny Hoyer is taking a new angle, at least


[19-Dec-19 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congressmen have more patience and self control than i woudl have


[19-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, we need Boener.


[19-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy could rain fire on Republicans' moral cowardice like no other.


[19-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he sent a dikk pic to a 15-year-old so RIP.


[19-Dec-19 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
john boehner? he sent dick pics?

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[19-Dec-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was Anthony Weiner.


[19-Dec-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who is one of the primary reasons Clinton lost.


[19-Dec-19 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thanks Daily Mail.


[19-Dec-19 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how was he one of the primary reasons?


[19-Dec-19 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The accusation by Daily Mail led to Comey reopening the email investigation 11 days before the 2016 election.


[19-Dec-19 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dick pic lead to further email investigation?


[19-Dec-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Weiner, not Boener

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[19-Dec-19 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boener was the Republican one with the dikk name.


[19-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are just plain playing theatrics right now.


[19-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want this shit to go on forever with no witnesses.


[19-Dec-19 01:42 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Collins is doing some impressive grandstanding, dems need to step it up


[19-Dec-19 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
YOU GET A DID IT! AND YOU GET A DID IT!


[19-Dec-19 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I honestly want the worst fears of Republicans to come to life


[19-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I _want_ impeachment and removal to be a vote of no confidence.


[19-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cripples the executive as it should.


[19-Dec-19 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplecspan/comments/eccm3h/ted_from_texas/

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Ted from Texas 🤣🤣
Posted in r/insanepeoplecspan by u/BOOFIN_FART_TRIANGLE • 331 points and 32 comments
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[19-Dec-19 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Dec-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/knifelicker/status/1206698690120802304

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https://twitter.com/knifelicker/status/1206698690120802304
Yea I'm into BDSM

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[19-Dec-19 02:08 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
The vote!


[19-Dec-19 02:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1dRKZLQvDlgJB

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LIVE: President Trump in Battle Creek, MI
A broadcast on Twitter from Trump War Room (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TrumpWarRoom).
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[19-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2 Dem suspects voted nay


[19-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
no GOP yea yet


[19-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or expected


[19-Dec-19 02:21 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
This vote might actually fail if dems keep no voting


[19-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
21 left to vote


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50 GOP


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
They can abstain though


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If no dem voted at this point and every GOP did it would pass


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
plus they give them some time


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
213 now


[19-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always forget how boring parliamentary procedure can be


[19-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had to run meetings and had to educate people about Robert's Rules


[19-Dec-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:lyrasweating:


[19-Dec-19 02:24 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
And here we go!


[19-Dec-19 02:24 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Impeached!


[19-Dec-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woo


[19-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Macarou#9574
It happened? It actually happened?


[19-Dec-19 02:25 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Eeyup


[19-Dec-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
first article anyway


[19-Dec-19 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now for the second


[19-Dec-19 02:27 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Brave person


[19-Dec-19 02:27 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
I salute them


[19-Dec-19 02:27 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
~~they live in a blue district probably~~


[19-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
looks like it was a fatfinger I guess


[19-Dec-19 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wut


[19-Dec-19 02:30 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Aw


[19-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Made a mistake when they hit the button


[19-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
5 Republicans however did not vote


[19-Dec-19 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Macarou#9574
Duly noted Mr.Saladino.


[19-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/realchriswilson/status/1207472505168023552

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Chris Wilson (@realchriswilson)
https://twitter.com/realchriswilson/status/1207472505168023552
At the time the House hit the number of votes needed to impeach Trump, he was talking about how stealth planes are actually invisible.
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[19-Dec-19 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2D 3R


[19-Dec-19 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/nxg0k5yxqe541.jpg

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[19-Dec-19 02:37 AM] illumnious#7938
Trump impeached by the House for abuse of power https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-impeached-house-abuse-power-n1104196

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Trump impeached by the House for abuse of power
The vote sets the stage for a trial in the Senate, due to begin in early January.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_51/3151776/191217-impeachment-vote-main-bar-cs-1036a_7eb34e0254f43c9419b900204dba8ddf.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[19-Dec-19 02:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The vote remains as to whether he obstructed Congress tho


[19-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will likely be the same.


[19-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are unlikely to break rank under the argument that it's totes okay to defy subpoenas all day long.


[19-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
(If a Democrat did this they'd be impeaching right now)


[19-Dec-19 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/k9o7izmxwf541.jpg

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[19-Dec-19 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
thats a woman?


[19-Dec-19 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yeah


[19-Dec-19 02:45 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Three presidents have now been impached


[19-Dec-19 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we now await a 3,987 page twitter essay rage from trump himself


[19-Dec-19 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1207476714256961536

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guy fieri 2020 campaign manager (@libbycwatson)
https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1207476714256961536
the democrats sobbing “we didn’t want to impeach you mr. president but we had to, for the country” in their funeral clothes while republicans drive a ford f-150 onto the house floor, firing a t-shirt cannon out of the window (the t-shirts have the confederate flag on...
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[19-Dec-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/dinotalkspol/status/1207478337356083200

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dino talks politics (@dinotalkspol)
https://twitter.com/dinotalkspol/status/1207478337356083200
@JoeySalads Haha this does sound like a political analysis from someone who drinks urine
Twitter


[19-Dec-19 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He does sound like a guy who gargles his own urine


[19-Dec-19 02:58 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Do we ping her or?..


[19-Dec-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ping who?


[19-Dec-19 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this just aged like milk

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[19-Dec-19 03:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
what about the senate?


[19-Dec-19 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably wont be removed, but the impeachments are sticking


[19-Dec-19 03:02 AM] Mani#1404
Well this is interesting news.


[19-Dec-19 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what kind of meltdown he'll have


[19-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475230-trump-invokes-son-barron-while-attacking-warren-at-rally


[19-Dec-19 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So _now_ your kid can be a part of it


[19-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate needs to vote 2/3rds present to remove.


[19-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOWEVER all votes on the process are simple majority, with Mitch powerless.


[19-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's where things fall apart for Republicans likely.


[19-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If 4 of them break ranks, they can force witnesses to testify


[19-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and for the vote to be secret.


[19-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine Giuliani before the Senate arguing Trump broke the law, sure, but it was "warranted" and that "everybody breaks the law in office"


[19-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Mitch forced to shut up by Roberts.


[19-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then secret vote comes in.


[19-Dec-19 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
70 vote to remove on one of the articles, GOP base is furious and wants to "know who the traitors are"


[19-Dec-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some Republican Senator, possibly Mitch himself, would then go around finding out who voted yea.


[19-Dec-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And funding primary challenges for them.


[19-Dec-19 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Election would be like, 6-8 months away.


[19-Dec-19 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party would be on fire.


[19-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
If not enuff do break ranks, meanwhile, then we get a trial with no witnesses. Mitch in total coordination spouting WH propaganda.


[19-Dec-19 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents would be turning to Democrats en masse.


[19-Dec-19 03:22 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Think about it, removing him from office opens the White House up to any ambitious senator... it's too perfect.


[19-Dec-19 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Bernie Sanders


[19-Dec-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[19-Dec-19 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he's removed, Pence becomes VP.


[19-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real interesting thing is if they impeached Pence too over the second article (Pence has obstructed too)


[19-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If both were removed simultaneously, then we actually get President Pelosi.


[19-Dec-19 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And VP Grassley.


[19-Dec-19 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
blegh, though it can't be worse than president orange hitler


[19-Dec-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tang nazis


[19-Dec-19 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, President Pelosi would be an...interesting thing.


[19-Dec-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would shout she set the whole thing up to "illegitimately seize office" etc. etc.


[19-Dec-19 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt be great, but it would be fun to watch


[19-Dec-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile she'd do very little except get the ball rolling on fixing Trump's shit.


[19-Dec-19 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd for sure fire Barr day one.


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho I'd hope he gets impeached.


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
you mean to jail? https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207434514433069057?s=20


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally, the House impeaches Barr right now, and then that trial happens first.


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would undercut the corrupt defense of Trump massively.


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
oh no https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207355923573989376?s=20


[19-Dec-19 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
all caps


[19-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
One way to think of this tweet is he's saying that the Republican party is America


[19-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that Democrats are not.


[19-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's most likely his actual views.


[19-Dec-19 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh not a new tweet


[19-Dec-19 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He looks at america as his corporation, he;s the boss and the rpeublicans are his board of directors. The democrats are a rival board of directors who must be quashed no matter the cost to his corporation


[19-Dec-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So now the big question is whether the impeachment gets sent to the Senate at all.


[19-Dec-19 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an unprecedented move to just hold it in place.


[19-Dec-19 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it could end up in the pile of 200things sitting ignored on mitch's desk?


[19-Dec-19 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Dec-19 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the orange has been turned into a peach


[19-Dec-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Means nothing.


[19-Dec-19 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
indeed


[19-Dec-19 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
other than for the history books; Trump's now the first president to be impeached in his first term and that's gonna make the election *real* ugly if we even make it that far


[19-Dec-19 03:42 AM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean trump will will 2020 guarentee


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not really


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget how close the election was last time


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it;s too early to tell with the elections


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the first impeachment to be super split/popular


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Few people wanted Clinton impeached


[19-Dec-19 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
something like 40,000 votes would've tipped the electoral against him, several electors defected


[19-Dec-19 03:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
never mind ofc that he completely lost the popular vote


[19-Dec-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd personally go so far as to argue that we've only ever had one nonpartisan impeachment, and that wasn't publicly popular.


[19-Dec-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Johnson's impeachment was an internal party fight that Democrats capitalized on


[19-Dec-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also by far the impeachment with the least merit


[19-Dec-19 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have had impeachment for perjury, obstruction of Congress/abuse of power, and... violating the Tenure of Office Act


[19-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/house-articles-impeachment-vote/index.html
> An awful day for Washington

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An awful day for Washington
They came in droves. Every 90 seconds or so another member of the House stepped up to the microphone to bless or condemn the impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump.
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[19-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/impeachment-polling-donald-trump/index.html
> Warning lights are flashing for Democrats as they impeach Trump

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[19-Dec-19 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is cnn doing


[19-Dec-19 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
they're simultaneously saying "things are bad for trump" and "things are bad for democrats"


[19-Dec-19 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
things are simply bad. The end is coming.


[19-Dec-19 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
btw


[19-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
and both are written by the same person


[19-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
chris cillizza


[19-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
something something democracy. It strikes me as pretty peculiar that the only votes that might matter now are the small percentage of the total, the independants. Both partisan sides are, for all intents and purposes, static actors and so can be largely dismissed.


[19-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
who is apparently a "CNN editor-at-large"


[19-Dec-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
everything is larger in 'murica

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[19-Dec-19 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
including the people


[19-Dec-19 03:52 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-has-joined-the-losers-of-presidential-history-and-republicans-are-going-down-with-him-conservative-columnist/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump has joined the ‘losers of presidential history’ — and ...
On Wednesday, Never-Trump conservative Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin released a scorching assessment of President Donald Trump’s legacy, as a newly impeached president — and that of all the Republicans who have leapt to his defense rather than stand up for the ...
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[19-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm seeing an awful lot of "senate won't vote to impeach Trump" on twitter.


[19-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either retards or Russians.


[19-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
... I wouldn't be surprised if the average trump supporter doesn't know that impeached doesn't mean removed


[19-Dec-19 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What's the difference?" @Nebbie


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Also by far the impeachment with the least merit"


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell no


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tenure of Office Act was a trap, yes


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Johnson was basically Trump TIMES TWO


[19-Dec-19 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude like, do you know what Johnson did?


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah he was shit.


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went to his inaugarution drunk


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And insisted that some southern states didn't actually secede


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] illumnious#7938
both @Nebbie


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
His presidency was marked by completely disobeying Congress on every front


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
```... I wouldn't be surprised if the average trump supporter doesn't know that impeached doesn't mean removed```


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
refusing to carry out things in the South especially


[19-Dec-19 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
absolute majority of the people probably don't.


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I know I didn't.


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, republicans voting for a secret ballot would be political suicide though


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the actual way his impeachment went down was stupid


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> Republicans are going down with him
@illumnious  that's funnier than most #memes-and-shitposts  ty


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
to be fair, when I first learned what impeachment was when I was in like elementary school or something, I thought it meant removed too


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically bribes vs. bribes


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
and there's a simple logic that would support impeachment being removing. People make such a big deal of it that it HAS to be something huge, right?


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
also same @Crow


[19-Dec-19 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
all centered around an act that was a complete trap.


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and it turns out that, no, it's maybe a symbol and a first step of a long road, but only that.


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow not political suicide for those like Murkowski, actually.


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might be the only way for them to win.


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch right now wants no witnesses


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
If /Pol/ means anything then they think impeachment is auto removal


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
a trial with no witnesses will be really damaging for GOP PR among independents


[19-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would lead to a really bad GOP loss in the election.


[19-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, if witnesses were called selectively and listened to


[19-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and THEN the GOP just ignored what they said


[19-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would lead to a less terrible loss


[19-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the key there is that that would tip towards a few voting for secret ballot because they might lose otherwise


[19-Dec-19 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> That would lead to a really bad GOP loss in the election
Huh. For some reason I had in mind they could do anything and have no effect on their votes


[19-Dec-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And other Republicans might join them out of a sense that being recorded in either direction is a loss for them personally.


[19-Dec-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It only takes 4


[19-Dec-19 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think even the four obvious ones would go for it


[19-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All we need is Romney, Murkowski, Collins, and someone else


[19-Dec-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well I think the vote on witnesses will happen first, and could get around 10-20


[19-Dec-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment Giuliani is put up to testify is when everything catches fire and a secret vote is needed to save the party at all.


[19-Dec-19 04:06 AM] illumnious#7938
bruh tho https://www.twitch.tv/donaldtrump

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[19-Dec-19 04:17 AM] illumnious#7938
:cryingTrump:


[19-Dec-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Dec-19 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
It's because she's black


[19-Dec-19 05:00 AM] illumnious#7938
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[19-Dec-19 05:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or maybe because burning the body and the house destroyed any evidence of her captivity and abuse.


[19-Dec-19 05:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
thus making it hard to prove


[19-Dec-19 05:01 AM] illumnious#7938
@byte[] that's racist, if anything, the guy have to face life in prison. I guess we live in a society.


[19-Dec-19 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
that snippet does omit if her accusations had any proof behind it.


[19-Dec-19 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
but the idea of giving someone a swift release instead of punishing him is inherently counterproductive.


[19-Dec-19 05:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207508280207011841

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[19-Dec-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
?


[19-Dec-19 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
what


[19-Dec-19 05:58 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
That photo reminds me of the Godfather


[19-Dec-19 05:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.vox.com/2019/12/18/21029287/trump-impeachment-battle-creek-michigan-rally?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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Trump’s response to impeachment: attacking the late husband of a...
Trump’s response to impeachment: attacking the late husband of a pro-impeachment Democrat.
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[19-Dec-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey hang on, I've heard that "in the way" line recently. Oh yeah, that's what Giuliani said about pressing Trump to get rid of Yovanovitch for


[19-Dec-19 06:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on camera. This week.


[19-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Dec-19 06:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
isn't this all just gonna stall in the Senate


[19-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[19-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the very least, the Senate doing a complete non-trial will turn independents away from voting Republican.


[19-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
just let them do their song and dance, and go about your business in the meantime. Whatever happens, happens, there's no point focusing on it I'd think.


[19-Dec-19 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not really an option unless you like getting gaslighted


[19-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
not like anyone not already involved has any impact anyway.


[19-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
More likely is that Mitch will be repeatedly overruled cause he's not in charge of the trial.


[19-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that will fracture Republicans one way or the other.


[19-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/politics/impeachment-trial.html

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In declining to say when she might send the articles of impeachment to the Senate, Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested she might keep them as leverage for negotiations on the rules for a trial.
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[19-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently pelosi might end up just straight up not sending the articles to the senate


[19-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
> Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated Wednesday night that the House could indefinitely delay sending the articles of impeachment against President Trump to the Senate, leaving ambiguous the timing of a trial to decide whether to acquit him or convict and remove him from office.


[19-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very risky political play to do that.


[19-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
> After  historic nearly party-line votes to impeach Mr. Trump for two articles, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, Ms. Pelosi told reporters that she would hold the articles back until it was clearer that the upper chamber would give the case a fair hearing. The strategy suggested she was keeping the charges as leverage in a coming negotiation over the terms of a Senate trial.


[19-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Mitch is going to just disappear so like


[19-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
no chance of an actually fair trial.


[19-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
One benefit tho is if the McGahn case wraps up fast, the House can hear testimony and get it in the record before shooting things to the Senate.


[19-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But again, risky.


[19-Dec-19 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
> And that will fracture Republicans one way or the other.
Huh. They seem pretty solid right now at a glance.


[19-Dec-19 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now we don't hav Giuliani testifying under oath that the president intended to break the law.


[19-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will look the other way when there's plausible deniability.


[19-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even very flimsy plausibility.


[19-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
would giuliani even say that under oath


[19-Dec-19 06:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's another question to consider.


[19-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he would succumb to a desire to grandstand and he'd be ranting about how just cause Trump broke the law doesn't make it wrong.


[19-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
my guess is giuliani would be a hostile witness and probably argue on every question


[19-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giuliani's a bit unhinged.


[19-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, but hostile witnesses will often fall apart under good questioning.


[19-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
One admission is all it really takes to start digging.


[19-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mulvaney and McGahn meanwhile I expect to be straightforward.


[19-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just plain spill the beans but in a really muted way Republicans will be able to weasel out of for a week.


[19-Dec-19 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474134260149157888

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Are you allowed to impeach a president for gross incompetence?
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[19-Dec-19 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
This tweet blew up


[19-Dec-19 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
it aged well indeed.


[19-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like cum in a jar.

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[19-Dec-19 06:52 AM] Opponent#3498
...why did you have to do this.


[19-Dec-19 06:54 AM] jlun2#8758
Ponified trump jar


[19-Dec-19 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orange peaches in a jar labelled "worst pony ever"


[19-Dec-19 06:55 AM] illumnious#7938
hue


[19-Dec-19 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Dec-19 07:48 AM] illumnious#7938
hahaha, shut up


[19-Dec-19 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
so do you have to be deplorable to get impeached, or does getting impeached make you deplorable?


[19-Dec-19 08:00 AM] illumnious#7938

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[19-Dec-19 08:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Proudly Made in ~~China~~ USA


[19-Dec-19 10:21 AM] Orion Starshade#8692
So, I haven’t looked at current polls, but who do y’all think will be the Democrat frontrunner for next year’s election?


[19-Dec-19 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
the frontrunners are biden, bernie, and warren, in that order


[19-Dec-19 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
bernie seems to be the most popular democrat runner in a match-up against trump in local polls, but there's a huge ton of indirect anti-bernie stuff going on in the background (like news channels excluding him from polls where he placed as a close second to biden and having warren listed as #2 instead)


[19-Dec-19 10:32 AM] Crow#5457
with how much warren's dropped in the polls the past couple weeks, it'll likely boil down to biden vs bernie


[19-Dec-19 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
bernie would be a surprise win over biden because people are still irrationally scared of the "socialist" label that bernie has, but I don't think it's possible for biden to win against trump in 2020


[19-Dec-19 11:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
#yang2020


[19-Dec-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's support should rise as the lesser candidates drop


[19-Dec-19 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She is everyone's second choice.


[19-Dec-19 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically once Pete and Yang are gone, Warren will be well above Bernie.


[19-Dec-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/senatemajldr/status/1207486615762935808

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At 9:30am tomorrow morning, on the Senate floor, I will speak about House Democrats’ precedent-breaking impeachment of the President of the United States.
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[19-Dec-19 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Dec-19 12:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/12/18/chuck-bonniwell-julie-hayden-knus-school-shooting/

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News/talk radio station 710 KNUS has canceled the Chuck & Julie show over controversial comments made by host Chuck Bonniwell.
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[19-Dec-19 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0530c2e93d9d5186d0a807888c1c0bb0

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Putin: Trump impeachment 'far-fetched,' Senate will acquit
MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin called the U.S. impeachment process “far-fetched” Thursday, making a seemingly obvious prediction that Donald Trump will be acquitted in the...
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[19-Dec-19 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0153fb8e3013d2e09992a871bacafc11

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Algeria inaugurates new president rejected by protesters
ALGIERS, Algeria (AP) — After eight months without a leader, Algeria inaugurated its new president Thursday during a pomp-filled ceremony that pro-democracy protesters rejected as a charade....
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[19-Dec-19 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
so in 8 months they failed to make any 'democratic' progress, and when an undemocratic 'better than nothing' option comes around, they reject that as well.


[19-Dec-19 01:29 PM] Opponent#3498
:bigbrain:


[19-Dec-19 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
> Tebboune, 74, a former prime minister considered to be close to Algeria’s powerful army chief, was elected with 58% of the vote in an election boycotted by members of the country’s peaceful protest movement.

> They rejected the election because it was organized by the political elite.


[19-Dec-19 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can someone tell me why removal from office doesnt automatically come with beign barred from holding office again... why is that acompletely seperate vote?


[19-Dec-19 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-could-be-impeached-convicted-but-win-reelection-2020-2019-11

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[19-Dec-19 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
same reason why impeachment isn't removal.


[19-Dec-19 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
'due process'


[19-Dec-19 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
aka an opportunity to drag on the spectacle for _years_ without actually accomplishing anything meaningful.


[19-Dec-19 01:53 PM] Opponent#3498
remember the age-old adage, people need to have 'bread and spectacle' to be content. US was good at this stuff, now the 'bread' part seems struggling so they doubled down on the other.


[19-Dec-19 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You should generally avoid as many mechanisms that block people from running for office as possible


[19-Dec-19 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That said, for this particular case, which is basically treason, it is odd


[19-Dec-19 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
way I see it, impeachment is already a pretty damning vote of no confidence. While I agree with you in general, in this severe a case the person in question is unlikely to get better (in time to be of any use anyway, human life is so abysmally short :( ).


[19-Dec-19 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
I agree with Nebbie on tiers of punishment, with impeachment being the strongest. But that's not how things seem to be set up now, unfortunately.


[19-Dec-19 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes no sense to remove soemone from office only so they can get re-elected to where you just removed them from


[19-Dec-19 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Dec-19 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

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Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you. 
Live your best life in peace and security. 
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real? 
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill
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[19-Dec-19 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, mask off now i guess


[19-Dec-19 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this terf drama?


[19-Dec-19 04:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I guess it is


[19-Dec-19 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
terf?


[19-Dec-19 04:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists.


[19-Dec-19 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[19-Dec-19 04:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure Rowling is a radical feminist tho


[19-Dec-19 04:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm watching Mitch McConnel bitch, gaslight and be a hypocrite for thirty plus minutes


[19-Dec-19 04:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
JK a TEF?


[19-Dec-19 04:09 PM] Opponent#3498
the best way to spend your life, no doubt.


[19-Dec-19 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd rather use the term "tef" because these people tend to be a bit too liberal compared to, say, the girl who wrote the SCUM manifesto, but it doesn't roll off the tongue as well


[19-Dec-19 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hypothesis: JK Rowling is being ironic


[19-Dec-19 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Argument: her name acronym is "Just Kidding"


[19-Dec-19 04:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well


[19-Dec-19 04:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If you're impeached and aren't removed from office


[19-Dec-19 04:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
you may won't get another term


[19-Dec-19 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well there's nothing in beloved US law that explicitly prevents that


[19-Dec-19 04:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Should be a law lol


[19-Dec-19 04:17 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The Philippines doesn't allow more than 1 term for me


[19-Dec-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
there should be, but this is the same for many things, law-related


[19-Dec-19 04:18 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean you just did a crime


[19-Dec-19 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
one of the reasons I oppose 'rule of law' concept on principle. The law in question is often voefully inadequate


[19-Dec-19 04:19 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I have yet to see a former president to be jailed


[19-Dec-19 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch mcconnell is having a conference to bitch about nancy pelosi taking his admission of fuckery under advisement and not letting the articles pass until he stops being a little bitch?


[19-Dec-19 04:26 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well


[19-Dec-19 04:26 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not all Republicans are good


[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50849559

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US lists fictional Wakanda as free-trade partner
Officials say it was an error to add the fictional nation from Black Panther to the list.
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[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is the government that high on drugs


[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
:dab:


[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The department's online tariff tracker hosted a detailed list of goods the two nations apparently traded, including ducks, donkeys and dairy cows.`


[19-Dec-19 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
someone's dabbing hard right about now.


[19-Dec-19 04:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I felt like them  adding Wakanda was intentional


[19-Dec-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the government is drugs right now


[19-Dec-19 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congratulations on drugs for becoming the government


[19-Dec-19 04:31 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That editor is so fired


[19-Dec-19 04:31 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
lol


[19-Dec-19 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't wait for the government to start trading with latveria


[19-Dec-19 04:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Make Wakanda Great Again.


[19-Dec-19 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure dr.doom will be a valuable trading resource


[19-Dec-19 04:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Wakandans won't trade their Vibrainium. WORST TRADE DEAL EVER.


[19-Dec-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we needed that vibranium for... health purposes!


[19-Dec-19 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
totally not so we can build weapons to invade them and steal all their other resources... totally not


[19-Dec-19 04:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Captain America needs that vibranium to fix his shield. America needs that vibranium for "defence" purposes.


[19-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all we have is this lousy adamantium!


[19-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit is useless~!


[19-Dec-19 04:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I read "free trade" in a slavery way


[19-Dec-19 05:27 PM] Mani#1404
I think someone should tell them Wakanda isn't real.


[19-Dec-19 06:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://charlieintel.com/activision-blizzard-paid-0-in-taxes-in-2018-took-228-million-from-tax-payers/58639/

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A new report from ITEP, which looks into income taxes for some of the largest companies in the world, has revealed that Activision Blizzard paid $0 in federal taxes in 2018. The company had an effective tax rate of -51% in 2018, which lead to US Tax Payers having to pay $228 ...
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[19-Dec-19 06:17 PM] DerpyBat#1149
Normally I don't comment here ever.


[19-Dec-19 06:17 PM] DerpyBat#1149
But I have to butt in


[19-Dec-19 06:18 PM] DerpyBat#1149
That's because they paid too much tax the previous year


[19-Dec-19 06:18 PM] DerpyBat#1149
And got a bunch back this year


[19-Dec-19 06:18 PM] DerpyBat#1149
People were commenting saying it's literally the same as a tax return the average person gets.


[19-Dec-19 06:19 PM] DerpyBat#1149
I get Blizzard gets a lot of shit for good reason, but that falls into the category of clickbait.

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[19-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
@DerpyBat, I'm not seeing anything online that suggests they paid too much in 2017, is there a source for that?


[19-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/companies-pay-zero-taxes-trump-tax-law-132512117.html

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9 popular companies that paid $0 in taxes for 2018
A new report reveals that American companies like Gannett, IBM, and Duke Energy didn’t just pay no taxes last year — they paid negative taxes.
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[19-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
this also isn't new news either


[19-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
it was known as early as april that blizzard had an effective -51% tax rate in 2018


[19-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
and even then, it sounds improbable that blizzard would pay so many taxes in 2017 that they would get back $228 MILLION the next year


[19-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
corporations are incredibly stingy with taxes


[19-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
how the hell would they make the mistake of paying so many taxes in 2017 that they were owed $228 million the next year?


[19-Dec-19 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JoeySalads/status/1207485909211471872

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[19-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMH0Xb0WsAEKYl-.jpg

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[19-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't know trump was a member of the national testicle association


[19-Dec-19 06:51 PM] Crow#5457
@DerpyBat ?


[19-Dec-19 06:52 PM] DerpyBat#1149
I saw it on reddit when it was posted, there, as the top comment.


[19-Dec-19 06:52 PM] DerpyBat#1149
Lemme see if I can find it again.


[19-Dec-19 06:56 PM] DerpyBat#1149
You can disregard my statement, a bunch of people in the comments were pointing it out as an issue but there's no citations for proof.


[19-Dec-19 06:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[19-Dec-19 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Dec-19 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
The new trolley problem: A trolley is moving on the track and no one will be hurt by it. Do you jump in front of the moving trolley?


[19-Dec-19 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Boomer Trolley Problem: Why should I divert the train so it won't kill people on the track ahead when I've already got mine?


[19-Dec-19 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If there's no problem you should create one so you can charge to fix it


[19-Dec-19 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Capitalist trolley problem


[19-Dec-19 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fixing it of course involves subcontracting the work to the lowest bidder, pocketing the spare, and ensuring that any failure on the part of the subcontractor's work does not make you liable


[19-Dec-19 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/vickerysec/status/1206712118705176577

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https://twitter.com/vickerysec/status/1206712118705176577
Video game company Blizzard (they make World of Warcraft, Starcraft, Hearthstone, etc) claimed an effective tax rate of -51% (negative fifty one percent) in 2018.

That means US citizens paid Blizzard $228 million for simply existing.

This is unjustifiable.
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[19-Dec-19 08:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/5-easter-eggs-in-the-new-sonic-trailer-to-keep-your-mind-off-of-the-entire-animation-studio-being-abruptly-fired/

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5 Easter Eggs in the New Sonic Trailer to Keep Your Mind Off of th...
We’re going to list them for you right now to divert your attention away from the fact that every employee who worked around the clock has been laid off.
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[19-Dec-19 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
what on earth is this bullshit, I mean come on.


[19-Dec-19 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, if official government portals are allowed to shitpost, anyone is.


[19-Dec-19 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
nevertheless, I hope the cheeky ass who posted this gets to join his beloved studio on the job market.


[19-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
...why?


[19-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Animation workers are generally just treated like crap


[19-Dec-19 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
@Opponent it's a satire/joke site but afaik the closure of CGI studio what worked on Sonic is real


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[19-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no need to treat them better, people think, because there's always people straight out of school to take advantage of


[19-Dec-19 08:59 PM] ononim#8141
http://static.techspot.com/news/83181-vfx-studio-redesigned-sonic-hedgehog-has-shut-down.html

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The VFX studio that redesigned Sonic the Hedgehog has shut down
Following the outcry at the weird-looking Sonic, who appeared in the first trailer back in April, director Jeff Fowler promised that changes would be made. The amount of work required meant the movie’s release date was pushed back three months…
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[19-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Movie will flop too


[19-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
February is a death sentence for movies


[19-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
```...why?```
I didn't realise it was satire. If it's satire, anything goes and I'll simply ignore it.


[19-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
but if it was an attempt to disguise a political message into a place where it doesn't belong, well.


[19-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Disguise"


[19-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was very much made obvious. Maybe people shouldn't be shat on for saying that it's shitty to not pay people after working them half to death.


[19-Dec-19 09:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sonic will be like the emoji movie. people will go see it out of morbid curiosity.


[19-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think it'll be good.


[19-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The villain's characterization in the trailer seems pretty good.


[19-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty shameful what they did to the people that fixed Sonic, tho.


[19-Dec-19 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
JACK SAINT USED DIALECTICS TO PREDICT THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=losBbRx_4iM

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[19-Dec-19 09:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Premiered May 8, 2019


[19-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it _was_ obvious. The _disguise_ part was about (I assumed) being allowed to publish it where propaganda didn't belong.


[19-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
people are dumb enough for that to happen, unfortunately.


[19-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe people _should_ be shat upon for combining propaganda and 'best X of Y' clickbait trash into one hillariously toxic mix. Ah, but it's satire. Then they get a free pass.


[19-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calling out shitty behavior is not "propaganda".


[19-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people hav opinions etc.


[19-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
what is propaganda then?


[19-Dec-19 09:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdPXQLrueRg

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[19-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Propaganda is political messaging that attempts to manipulate its audience, chiefly by concealing its political nature and even core message.


[19-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, so since this is explicit and not concealed, it's not propaganda.


[19-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Correct.


[19-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Technically, something could also be propaganda if unconcealed, but still highly misleading, but of course this isn't doing such.


[19-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
so how do you call a politically charged message that's not concealed or misleading then?


[19-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think there is a word for it.


[19-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just hav to put the "political" adjective on another word.


[19-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
English is primarily concerned with the noun encoding the style of the message, not its purpose.


[19-Dec-19 10:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1207756501814779904?s=21

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When you wake up and you’re still President of the United States. https://t.co/tXwUHmr1tT
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[19-Dec-19 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Not for long you won’t


[19-Dec-19 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see his only campaign strategy is to photoshop his head on far mroe succesful people


[19-Dec-19 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also tic tok women


[19-Dec-19 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many women he'll put his head on during his campaign


[19-Dec-19 11:03 PM] ononim#8141
>The Primitive Mind mistakes politics, like it does religion, for a life-and-death situation.


[19-Dec-19 11:04 PM] ononim#8141
I was reading a big brained article on Toatally New and Rational political axis and dear god


[19-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
```When you wake up and you’re still President of the United States.```


[19-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
implying he also doesn't understand the difference between impeachment and removal :D


[19-Dec-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably doesnt understand a lot of things


[19-Dec-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has not read the constitution


[19-Dec-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though that is a common misconception


[19-Dec-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people are probably learning now that impeachment and removal are a seperate process


[19-Dec-19 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/14/religious-discrimination-bill-what-will-australians-be-allowed-to-say-and-do-if-it-passes

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Religious discrimination bill: what will Australians be allowed to...
The government’s explanatory memo outlines how the bill’s far-reaching effects will change public life dramatically – in medical services, schools, offices and hospitals
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[19-Dec-19 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you get to harass people, but only if you're religious, in a country where normally saying anything bad gets you lokked up.


[19-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Atheist says that foreigners are lazy? Gets fined. Christian says that foreigners should be burned at the stake, and is the fukking Prime Minister on live TV? Gets applauded.


[20-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Macarou#9574
I loved the part where in the beginning of the article it said"A caveat is this must all be done in good faith".   "Good Faith". Yeah sure


[20-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a caveat for like 80% of the laws worldwide


[20-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
those that aren't explicitly designed to legalise oppression.


[20-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way to sneak shit in.


[20-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes you can tell that single mother she's going to hell for not providing a father for her kid.


[20-Dec-19 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So it's basically the opressive law equivalent of "no random crits"


[20-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as it's in good faith!


[20-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In actual practice, the "good faith" will be assumed, even as a single mother is driven to suicide.


[20-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, the shitty thing is, for laws to work they HAVE to be 'in good faith'. Yes it sounds shitty but you simply cannot legalise for everything every time. And if you try it'll stonewall economy, society and any sort of activity in general.


[20-Dec-19 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what they really mean by religious is that any religions other than christian or catholic need not apply


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
...although judging by your example this isn't what it's about this time


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah nvm religious garbage


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Macarou#9574
No one tells a single mother she's going to hell in good faith


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no oen tells anyone they;re going to hell in good faith


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
never mind, I was thinking about something different.


[20-Dec-19 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell is bad faith all the way down


[20-Dec-19 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bible even says not to wish hell on people and yet...


[20-Dec-19 12:15 AM] Macarou#9574
Assuming they actually care what the bible says, and that they've read it


[20-Dec-19 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff none of them have, thye use religion as an excuse to be a cocksucking dicklord


[20-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Macarou#9574
I tried to read the Bible, didn't get far, I read the Koran, but I don't remember much of it


[20-Dec-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve read parts of the bible


[20-Dec-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not the whole thing though


[20-Dec-19 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m also not religious so i dont care uch about it except when people try to use it to be a turbo douche


[20-Dec-19 12:20 AM] Macarou#9574
I didn't get past Genesis, I was just quite bored of it. I also tried reading the Book of Morman, bored me quickly too.


[20-Dec-19 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/475318-al-franken-mocks-mcconnells-senate-floor-statement-like-listening-to-jeffrey

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Former Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) mocked Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) Senate floor statement, comparing his speech to listening to serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.
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[20-Dec-19 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/ecwap7/classic_flat_earther/fbe73tp?context=3

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[20-Dec-19 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont think those are real believers


[20-Dec-19 12:49 AM] jlun2#8758
they sound like disinformation campaigners


[20-Dec-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
most of them actually believe it


[20-Dec-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
just like 9/11 truther shit it started out as a joke


[20-Dec-19 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
and then people took it seriously


[20-Dec-19 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Dec-19 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Dec-19 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/AdCw4fAc2QvSr-iFqnvDbwg

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Putin suggests altering constitution to limit presidential term ...
At annual marathon news conference, the Russian president covered a sprawling range of topics, including airfare prices garbage disposal, and climate change.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQWRDdzRmQWMyUXZTci1pRnFudkRid2cAMA


[20-Dec-19 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Dec-19 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>Get expelled because i reported the teacher

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[20-Dec-19 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Bench appearo demonstrates intelligence https://i.redd.it/aphe1bsaql541.jpg

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[20-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Macarou#9574
Yes indeed Mr.Shapiro, this impeachment is an impeachment


[20-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
```For instance, when arguing with someone who doesn't share their beliefs, flat earth types and fringe conspiracy types will often say things like, "Oh, and you believe everything the news tells you?"```


[20-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
I love the implication here.


[20-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
listen and believe reverently, and scorn anyone who tells you different.


[20-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
reading that 'flat earther' reddit post


[20-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I also love ```Nazism, Stalinism, all kinds of weird fringe conspiracy theories, etc```


[20-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it's totes because people want revenge for being labeled stupid.


[20-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
so right, yet so horribly wrong at the same time.


[20-Dec-19 01:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

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Trump Should Be Removed from Office
It’s time to say what we said 20 years ago when a president’s character was revealed for what it was.


[20-Dec-19 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Dec-19 02:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/davidwohl/status/1207326141649784832?s=21

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Impeach this man at your own risk, Democrats.
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[20-Dec-19 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by the will of satan, we have impeached this man!


[20-Dec-19 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/baphomet-pentagram-blinking-flames-goat-gif-7836909

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[20-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Macarou#9574
All hail our horned goat overlord


[20-Dec-19 02:52 AM] illumnious#7938
Is that true? https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1207840996312199168?s=21

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Under President Trump, the Black unemployment rate hit a record low of 5.5%

Before President Trump, it was never below 7%.

Under the Obama-Biden administration, the average Black unemployment rate was 12.8%

#DemDebate #BlackVoicesForTrump
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[20-Dec-19 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
the argument can be made about the quality of said jobs but the overall figure would be curious to see, yeah


[20-Dec-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I... What?


[20-Dec-19 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/fd1b9a575ae2af1c8da804d45c039a6a

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Suit: Police barged into Kansas home, beat man for no reason
KANSAS CITY, Kan. (AP) — A federal lawsuit alleges that Kansas City, Kansas, police broke into a man's home in the middle of the night and beat him before having him charged with battery of a law...
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[20-Dec-19 03:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is Ben Sharpio implicitly autistic?


[20-Dec-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
No


[20-Dec-19 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
He's just a fucking moron


[20-Dec-19 03:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1207786701512413184?s=21 he’s not giving up with this shit

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After attacking the energy efficient light bulbs and toilets, Trump is upset with dishwashers now. WTF!  https://t.co/9gYRCoDKQQ
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[20-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
what was wrong with the lightbulbs?


[20-Dec-19 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
He said they make his skin look orange


[20-Dec-19 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Well so does the sun, but that doesn't stop him from going out


[20-Dec-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's also demonstrably not true anyway, energy efficient lighting is much more blue in color temperature


[20-Dec-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Incandescent is orange


[20-Dec-19 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
he looks orange because he coats his face in orange makeup


[20-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[20-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
I expected something at least pretending to be sane, like how they destroy US economy by stealing money from energy companies.


[20-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
but nah, count on the narcissistic child to make it about himself


[20-Dec-19 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/FmgEaUi

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Who's the real "Do Nothing" in Congress?
https://i.imgur.com/IMUwDdFh.jpg


[20-Dec-19 03:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/lnEbH1aDgak

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North Korea's message to US: Choose your Christmas present
Kim Jong Un has been signaling that the deadline for a diplomatic breakthrough between the US and North Korea must be met by the end of this year. CNN's Will Ripley reports. #CNN #News
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lnEbH1aDgak/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
North Korea _demands_ things from US.


[20-Dec-19 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
what a brave new world we live in.


[20-Dec-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
North korea has been demanding things from america for a decade now


[20-Dec-19 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the difference is nwo we have a used steak salesman as a president


[20-Dec-19 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim jong un just got bored with using trump for PR and is now demanding trump stop requestiing he give up his nukes


[20-Dec-19 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
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Impeachment explained in one picture.
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[20-Dec-19 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Dec-19 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I give it 2 days before||nothing happens||


[20-Dec-19 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
politics trolls blew up the vscode repo
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87435

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[20-Dec-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
at least corporations aren't mandated to put up with morons.


[20-Dec-19 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
blanket bans and temporary registration restriction will solve the issue hard.


[20-Dec-19 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Dec-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/rnAwTBD

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Your Editorial Cartoons for December 19th 2019, Impeachment Special
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[20-Dec-19 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Dec-19 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trumpers: We'll start a civil war!
General Sherman: War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.


[20-Dec-19 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they can say whatever they want, it's all hot air as long as the military's unwilling to go along. You people are really lucky Trump pissed _everyone_ off.


[20-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/18/jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-video-is-missing.html

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Jail video surveillance from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide attem...
Jeffrey Epstein died in August from what has been ruled a suicide by hanging in a Manhattan jail. Conspiracy theories surrounding the death of the former friend of Donald Trump and Bill Clinton have swirled ever since.
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[20-Dec-19 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[20-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20lJppF4EOI

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[20-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
so what's the tldr here?


[20-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) A crime is not necessary to impeach


[20-Dec-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
2) Congress has discretion on when to impeach, it's totally valid if they just decide they don't like a president, seriously.


[20-Dec-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
3) Trump's articles of impeachment are very similar to past ones, and virtually the same as Nixon's first two


[20-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's pretty much it.


[20-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big point is that all the Republican arguments that you need a specific crime named or that it being political invalidates it somehow is complete nonsense.


[20-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[20-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The video's so long because he's putting forth a lot of information and explaining it somewhat.


[20-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most important bit is there is tons of precedent on point 1


[20-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges can be AND HAV BEEN impeached and removed just for showing up on the job drunk.


[20-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment is more akin to an employer firing an employee in a way that allows for a trial, than to criminal punishment.


[20-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The employer being the US gov't, and the employee being an officer of the US.


[20-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heh, so you could say


[20-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi just handed Trump a poor job performance report recommending firing.


[20-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if the Senate votes to remove, they're telling Trump he's fired.


[20-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
How appropriate.


[20-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Opponent#3498
something something run like a business. Yeah.


[20-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
this is actually another important thing. Impeachment isn't a president-exclusive mechanism (at least, not in US, I've never heard the word used in any other context in our neck of the woods).


[20-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
so neither the office is sacred and unique, nor the mechanism of control.


[20-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
I think this is the killer vs republicans.


[20-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
this specific idea.


[20-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's a pretty big deal cause it's never worked against a president properly before.


[20-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it HAS worked against judges.


[20-Dec-19 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
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[20-Dec-19 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
porn when


[20-Dec-19 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
also ty


[20-Dec-19 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah it's big brain time


[20-Dec-19 08:28 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> What are you talking about? Tencent cant be lying. Just be quiet and buy Chinese games. Only chinese games. Hail Leader Xi.


[20-Dec-19 08:28 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🇨🇳


[20-Dec-19 11:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
xi died on the way to his home planet 🚀


[20-Dec-19 11:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MtthewRubiin/status/1207894298227859458

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This is amazing. Please look at Peter Buttigieg's face when Bernie says he's a competitive guy and wishes him luck on catching up with Joe in the billionaire supporter contest. 
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[20-Dec-19 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/AcZ9ePLXWTUKbx8iB9dgjXQ

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Washington Post: Trump said he believes Ukraine interfered in 2016...
President Donald Trump once stated explicitly that he believes that it was Ukraine — not Russia — that meddled in the 2016 election because Russian President Vladimir Putin "told me," The Washington Post reported Thursday, citing a former senior White House official.
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[20-Dec-19 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Master putin told dobby, he told dobby ukraine interfered in our election. Master putin is never wrong, master putin is good master to dobby trump"


[20-Dec-19 03:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207997316424187905

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A far left magazine, or very “progressive,” as some would call it, which has been doing poorly and hasn’t been involved with the Billy Graham family for many years, Christianity Today, knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call and would...
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[20-Dec-19 03:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
CT is one of the most conservative christian publications out there, but OK Mr. "Paid a porn star for sex while his 3rd wife was recovering from childbirth"


[20-Dec-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well of course it's far left, everything that isnt trump is far left


[20-Dec-19 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the wide ass that takes up the entire right side


[20-Dec-19 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
the mental gymnastics required to call something named **'Chistianity today'** a far left progressive publications are mindboggling.


[20-Dec-19 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
unless, of course, he skipped them entirely


[20-Dec-19 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
which is probably the case


[20-Dec-19 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anything that disagrees with him is automatically labeled far left


[20-Dec-19 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he called john bolt far left after he disagreed with him about things


[20-Dec-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
john "Let's go to war with iraq because i;m bored" bolton


[20-Dec-19 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this clarifies things :/


[20-Dec-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bolton

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John Robert Bolton (born November 20, 1948) is an American attorney, political commentator, Republican consultant, former diplomat and national security advisor.
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[20-Dec-19 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Bolton is a former senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI),[11] and Fox News Channel commentator. He was a foreign policy adviser to 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney.[12] Bolton has been involved with numerous conservative organizations, including the anti-Muslim Gatestone Institute,[13] where he was the organization Chairman until March 2018,[14] and as a Director of the Project for the New American Century, which favored going to war with Iraq.


[20-Dec-19 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Bolton is a foreign policy hawk and is an advocate for regime change in Iran, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen and North Korea.[15][16] He has also repeatedly called for the termination of the Iran nuclear deal. He was an advocate of the Iraq War and continues to support the decision to invade Iraq.[17] He has continuously supported military action and regime change in Syria, Libya, and Iran.[17][18] A Republican, his political views have been described as American nationalist,[19][20] conservative,[21][22][23][24] and neoconservative.[25] Bolton rejects the last term.[26][27][28]


[20-Dec-19 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yup, the face of progressive far left.


[20-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Yuri#4154
For fuck's sake

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[20-Dec-19 04:21 PM] ononim#8141
US is a barbaric country


[20-Dec-19 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
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@realDonaldTrump Smocking must be one of “the best words”

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[20-Dec-19 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
we need his ||report card|| to be shown on national television so we all can laugh and see how pathetic our president is.


[20-Dec-19 05:14 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-evangelicals-billy-graham-christianity-today-remove-latest-a9254391.html

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Evangelical Christian magazine founded by Billy Graham says Trump ...
‘The facts in this instance are unambiguous,’ Christianity Today editor says
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[20-Dec-19 07:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Ethiopia launches first satellite into space
Ethiopia launched its first satellite into space on Friday, as more sub-Saharan African nations strive to develop space programs to advance their development goals and encourage scientific innovation.
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[20-Dec-19 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
> The satellite was designed by Chinese and Ethiopian engineers and the Chinese government paid about $6 million of the more than $7 million manufacturing costs


[20-Dec-19 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
> "This will be a foundation for our historic journey to prosperity," deputy prime minister Demeke Mekonnen said in a speech at the launch event broadcast on state television.


[20-Dec-19 07:02 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah...


[20-Dec-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt that governor the same guy who just pardoned a fucking murderer because his brother had a fund raiser?


[20-Dec-19 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well it's not implied how much of the share of the development the Ethiopians contributed to


[20-Dec-19 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that governer should be in prison


[20-Dec-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes @prism stryder(intexda)


[20-Dec-19 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking kentucky politicians


[20-Dec-19 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
@ everyone probably about the same as the costs. Not much.


[20-Dec-19 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess i;m staying out of kentucky considering it;s ex-governor practically pardoned a whole fucking prison out of spite for the populace


[20-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/20/uk/jk-rowling-transgender-tweets-scli-intl-gbr/index.html

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JK Rowling under fire over transgender comments
"Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling has come under fire for expressing support for a woman who lost an employment tribunal over comments she made on social media about transgender people.
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[20-Dec-19 08:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://davidpakman.com/2019/12/december-19-2019/

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December 19, 2019


[20-Dec-19 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/jewsfortrump/status/1207922481543204864?s=20

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*It’s one day after impeachment*

Me: Hey Siri, who’s the President of the United States?

Siri: @realDonaldTrump

All of us: 🤩🤩🤩 https://t.co/QB7DoxCxkh
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[20-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't get how it works do they


[20-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
nope.


[20-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems it's like I said before. Everyone seemed to be making such a massive deal out of impeachment, most people _assumed_ it meant removal.


[20-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
it feeds into both parties' narrative. For reps, `it's tommorow and I'm still the president`


[20-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
for dems, well, the impeachment is a success! Yay! Yes, there's a removal down the line, but, we won!


[20-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it explains a lot of the conservative hyperbole that most of them thought this was the literal trial.


[20-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thus screeching about due process saying it's unfair to judge him already without all the evidence.


[20-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, no, you dipshit, this is literally just deciding WHETHER TO HAV A TRIAL OR NOT


[20-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But I also suppose many of them in Trump's position would be against being indicted


[20-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
they'd ask for proof beyond a reasonable doubt just to open an investigation.


[20-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
there's another thing.


[20-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they don't like the idea of a working justice system period, they want suspicion and rumor to be completely ignored as they get away with crimes.


[20-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Opponent#3498
the longer this uninterrupted process goes on, the more people will get tired of it.


[20-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the "process" is over with.


[20-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
To do any more, the House needs more witnesses or other subpoena'd evidence.


[20-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things don't really go on at length until things are sent to the Senate.


[20-Dec-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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India bans citizenship law protests, death toll rises to 14
NEW DELHI (AP) — Police banned public gatherings in parts of the Indian capital and other cities for a third day Friday and cut internet services to try to stop growing protests against a new...
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[20-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"india bans" should be how you start your day


[20-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Alarm clock goes off, you get the weather and the latest thing india's banned

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[20-Dec-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
india bans india


[20-Dec-19 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more at 11

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[20-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie if you explained to people how a grand jury worked I bet most people would explode


[20-Dec-19 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://archive.is/AFWMo

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[20-Dec-19 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
Extremly Cool and Normal


[20-Dec-19 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
Thanks BJP, very cool


[20-Dec-19 09:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/latinamerica/top-stories/brazils-bolsonaro-defends-son-against-deepening-graft-probe/ar-BBYcICl?ocid=mailsignout

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Brazil's Bolsonaro defends son against deepening graft probe
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro on Friday defended his son from accusations of corruption and attacked the Rio de Janeiro state prosecutors leading an investigation of Senator Flavio Bolsonaro's alleged money laundering and misuse of public funds.


[20-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[20-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A libertarian would want a private company to do that


[20-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You still don't get it.


[20-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I already initiated ethnic cleansing, 30 years ago


[20-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_cackles in mandarin_


[20-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I get the undertone with this one, that libertarians are fine with individual liberties being trampled as long as it isn't the government doing it.


[20-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who support the free market don't support immigration.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians are a sham.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That makes no fucking sense.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You want people to buy more things.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes perfect sense.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it this way its


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why support the free market?


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fewer people means less buying


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Assume everyone is selfish.


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Libertarians are a meme


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
*Why* support a free market if you are selfish?


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Competition and then things get better


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh uh


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[20-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Selfish, remember.


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why support a free market


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you do not giv a shit about anyone but you, your friends, and your family?


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For every person that claims to be a libertarian, 100 of them are just proto-fascists excusing their shit on "meritocracy"


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because _I_ can make money?


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
I and my race can make money off of people who are not me and my race.


[20-Dec-19 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is why people support deregulation.


[20-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What idiot who wants money above all else  would be picky about where it comes from


[20-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is why people who support deregulation of markets support strict immigration controls.


[20-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because most people believe it's a zero sum game


[20-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
this doesnt make sense Nebbie, sorry.


[20-Dec-19 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think that money for them must come from another.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't believe in mutual benefits.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, it should. That's the point. Tax the poor, give money to the rich. For this you'd _want_ immigration.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
more poor.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
more money.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking if it comes from your own race, then it's no net change, you see.


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
and fuck everything else, it's not your problem


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but you're missing something


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
people will immigrate whether it's legal to or not


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When you look at it at a bigger level can there be mutual benefits


[20-Dec-19 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
but if they immigrate illegally


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
if there is a constant threat hanging over their heads


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are easier to control


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and can be thus kept poorer


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
leverage


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The bird picking bugs off a hippo loses the chance to eat bugs elsewhere and the hippo loses not having birds on it


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you let them in legally, then they demand rights, a fair wage, etc.


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
"When you look at it at a bigger level"


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about conservatives here


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and average ones, at that


[20-Dec-19 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Assume an IQ of 95


[20-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* not looking at any bigger levels.


[20-Dec-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s already happened with several factories in america, where thye did their jobs, outlived their usefulness, and thne their boss called ice on them to raid the factory


[20-Dec-19 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s about having a near slave level class of people you can leverage into your bidding


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, in theory, le smart libertarian could be very pro markets and pro immigration


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people aren't that smart.


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know you've joked about it before @Nebbie but really what would President Warren or Sanders from saying "all illegals in the US are now citizens"


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
if you believe the liberals, they are already near slave level class of people you can leverage into your bidding. The liberals, that is, not illegals.


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess nothing now


[20-Dec-19 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump's impeachment fails, nothing, yes.


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive would be able to write laws.


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Outright.


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, yeah that's the point. libertarians and conservatives want to keep it that way


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, this is the thing to realize about "libertarians"


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're just wanting to keep the wealth white.


[20-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything about "small gov't" is a sham.


[20-Dec-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They believe the gov't should be this huge police state that rounds up gays for execution and non-whites for selling to corporations, ultimately.


[20-Dec-19 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically china!


[20-Dec-19 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want the gov't to not be a *competitor* to their businesses as they get rich.


[20-Dec-19 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie you say this about any right-wing affiliates.


[20-Dec-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have you seen america;s right wing affiliates?


[20-Dec-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav to dig very hard to uncover massive hypocrisy from people shouting FREE MARKETS LESS GOVERNMENT


[20-Dec-19 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are fighting for amonarchy right now with trump and his bloodline as the rulers


[20-Dec-19 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the tweet was about.


[20-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I suppose with things as they currently stand and huge polarisation of society that's probably the case.


[20-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's much more than that.


[20-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
but this will pass eventually, one way or another.


[20-Dec-19 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully with total party collapse


[20-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
see, the problem with that is, those people who follow these beliefs, they aren't going anywhere


[20-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to understand here is that no matter how polarized or not it is, people don't just arrive at a "small government" position because they genuinely believe society is all nice nice and everyone will just support each other.


[20-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
and, really, neither are liberals if Trump stays in power.


[20-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
either side is the problem for the opposition to deal with


[20-Dec-19 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, but they are planning to stab eachother in the back, which is part of the problem with a monarchy system


[20-Dec-19 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't having power is attractive whether you want to help or hurt people or virtually any cause you hav


[20-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't losing power is really only attractive when you want someone else to gain that power in a certain area


[20-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
that's you speaking from US perspective. But I suppose it's correct in context.


[20-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
With Libertarians, that area is economics


[20-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want the gov't to not be their competition.


[20-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
This can only hav the purpose of them using their economic power to enrich themselves against others.


[20-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
makes sense, if the government acts as a player directly it can mold the laws against anyone else much more easily than even rampant US lobby might.


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
but I don't think this is really the case.


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
A notable case is prescription drug price negotiation


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the lobbies control the government, they no longer have to lobby


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It really is the case.


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
In most countries, the gov't is the largest consumer of healthcare


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
its decisions of which drugs to consume thus carry huge weight


[20-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
well if they become the government, the libertarian idea kinda falls to the wayside.


[20-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NHS refuses to buy overpriced drugs from the US


[20-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
But in the US, medicare, medicaid, and the VA are barred from negotiations on prices altogether.


[20-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't cannot use its weight of consumer power to lower drug prices, so drug prices remain high.


[20-Dec-19 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay death


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians hate when liberals try to change this.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
well then it's not really a player anymore at all.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yes, this is libertarian success.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Drug companies get rich at the expense of the poor.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Libertarian ideal.


[20-Dec-19 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The CEOs who happen to be white, and the poor who happen to be largely not.


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, the banks, the ones that make people CEOs, effectively, bar blakks from private membership statuses.


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
as a citizen of poor white country, I find it hard to empathize ;) And I imagine this isn't about color in US either.


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It really is.


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s about color and class in america


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US makes everything about race in the end.


[20-Dec-19 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's too tied together.


[20-Dec-19 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is sort of a unique case when compared to a country liek Ukraine


[20-Dec-19 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US for over a century has existed with a white majority exploiting minorities.


[20-Dec-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america's current housing market is practically built around race... which in turn means no one can own a hosue anymore because rich white folk fucked it the hell up to spite the blacks


[20-Dec-19 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also absentee land owners from foreign nations such as china


[20-Dec-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers built dream homes


[20-Dec-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
now they're upset they can't sell them


[20-Dec-19 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, there was a great tweet a while ago...


[20-Dec-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is a mcmansion out int he coutnry side around here, and my god it looks so out of place


[20-Dec-19 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/X7drUO5


[20-Dec-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the banks also built houses out here and charged way too much for them, so now thousands of houses are just foreclosing and going up for auction repeatedly because no one is going to pay $100k for a house out in famr fuck no where


[20-Dec-19 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on the plus side this may mean i have a decent shot at owning a hosue if one in the right area drops low enough


[20-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, the entire purpose of mortgages was to make it so people could actually sell their homes


[20-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not wait for people to get a big pile of money


[20-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems it's completely broken down.


[20-Dec-19 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it;s more of a system of "How long can we make this a rental while calling it a mortgage?"


[20-Dec-19 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
30 years? 80 years?


[20-Dec-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
4 generations?


[20-Dec-19 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
6 generations?


[20-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Macarou#9574
10 Generations,even?


[20-Dec-19 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just put a whole family lineage in debt to you as mortgage!


[21-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Yuri#4154

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[21-Dec-19 12:25 AM] Yuri#4154
I wish I could say I am surprised


[21-Dec-19 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the votes are useful till they arent

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[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Yuri#4154
He also wants to change constituency boundaries


[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was expecting this.


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[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you vote fascists into power, they remove the vote as it's a threat to them.


[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Yuri#4154
Which, of course, will benefit his party the most


[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how fascism works.


[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] ononim#8141
Hmmmmm


[21-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire core ideal is to rig the system to benefit their own.


[21-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Yuri#4154
Under the new boundaries, the Tories will have twice as many seats as Labour


[21-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Yuri#4154

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[21-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Johnson wants to make the UK a mini US


[21-Dec-19 12:34 AM] Yuri#4154
They're really trying to make sure that they stay in power for as long as possible


[21-Dec-19 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, they got the voters to put thme in the majority, thne used their new majority to remove the power form the people to build their majority faster


[21-Dec-19 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
Can't wait for Irish unifaction and independent Scotland


[21-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-bill-trade-deal-us-withdrawal-agreement-latest-a9253811.html

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[21-Dec-19 12:48 AM] Yuri#4154
What the fuck


[21-Dec-19 12:48 AM] Yuri#4154
I wasn't aware I was living in a presidential dictatorship


[21-Dec-19 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee british trump is acting liek american trump


[21-Dec-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a plot twist


[21-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Shokked Apple Bloom face*


[21-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's almost like fascists in power are scummy shits that rob you of rights to secure power


[21-Dec-19 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
who would've thunk it.


[21-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh best of all @Yuri


[21-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be able to set the date for the next election.


[21-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Macarou#9574
Really? Wow, that's, not sounding good at all


[21-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if his party was waning, he could set it bakk by some months.


[21-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Yuri#4154
And, of course, with his majority he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants


[21-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep. Oh btw, the Tories are funded mostly by dead people.


[21-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the majority of their money comes from the estates of people who left in their wills to donate money generated by the estate to the Tories.


[21-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer dies with some minimansion, his money starts funneling to make sure that the young people get utterly screwed.


[21-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generational warfare from beyond the grave.


[21-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Yuri#4154
ffs, not even death can stop the boomers from fucking people over


[21-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why money in politics is bad.


[21-Dec-19 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it's about time we took papa neoliberalism out back


[21-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, if you get a time machine, and you only hav 6 bullets to use


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 in Nixon's head, 3 in Nixon's chest.


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Yuri#4154
Now now


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Yuri#4154
I want to save at least one for Thatcher


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gun used to pulp what remains.


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the howitzer is for.


[21-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get 100 shots. Make sure they can't find a single piece.


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's actually a lich and she'll come bakk as Theresa May if they do.


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Yuri#4154
Oi. They need to be able to find at least one piece to bury


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can bury the crater.


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Yuri#4154
What's the point in living if you can't piss on Thatcher's grave?


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make her grave all of England


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you can piss anywhere and be pissing on her grave.


[21-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even your own bathroom.


[21-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the downside is living in Thatcher's grave.


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's okay, it'll somehow still choose Brexit anyways, so it'll be a shithole by 2040


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it was inevitable tbh


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are extremely opportunist.


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the fact that they made every effort to _not_ be part of the EU while still exploiting it


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
things like keeping their currency etc.


[21-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best hope is that the utterly devastated UK will then come crawling bakk and get forced to actually participate.


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
While the EU says "okay, be a democracy then, here are the rules"


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
really, what the fuck is wrong with anglos though


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
why are they so fucking terrible


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their church


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
genetic I bet


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
England and the US are fucked in ways that don't make sense


[21-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, both the UK and US churches are all built around defying the main authority in order to exert MUH SOVEREIGNTY


[21-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a thirst for blood and conflict and ingrained sense of god given righteous superiority that's just absurdly vile


[21-Dec-19 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to the Christian faction being highly nationalist and using faith to justify everything.


[21-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by being a religious faction, it's highly organized.


[21-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even when church and state are theoretically separate, in practice the church is running everything and considers any opposing forces as a threat to be taken out using the law as a cudgel.


[21-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, while France may be shitty with racism, the church there isn't THAT strong.


[21-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
When push comes to shove, the gov't says no to it.


[21-Dec-19 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they had a whole revolution about it.


[21-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a very strong sense as well in the US that the gov't, in particular its current leader, when conservative, is "chosen by god"


[21-Dec-19 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most Christians see impeachment as challenging god's will.


[21-Dec-19 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201912191077631109-former-soviet-president-gorbachev-hospitalised-with-pulmonic-fever---reports/

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This summer, the 88-year-old former leader of the USSR stated that he had been undergoing extensive treatment in hospital. He noted that he was working on his book while hospitalised.
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[21-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Weekly weird reminder that Gorbachev is still actually alive


[21-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He writes opinion articles sometimes about how shitty Putin is.


[21-Dec-19 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to them god;s will is also to murder us all in extreme fashion, but sure opposing god is wrong for soem reason


[21-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very weird.


[21-Dec-19 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet a few imaginary bucks that Gorby's gonna survive this


[21-Dec-19 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt even realize he was still alive till this


[21-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, real talk, it was some years ago, but there was an article by him that showed he completely gets what stupidity is going down lately.


[21-Dec-19 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gorb's job is to be forgotten by people every once in a while


[21-Dec-19 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like the malcom in the middle ant/god analogy, but i;d rather be fire ants than black ants


[21-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Macarou#9574
I hadn't heard anything about Gorb in a long while


[21-Dec-19 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, he's been interviewed, and he hates the modern world


[21-Dec-19 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/opinion/mikhail-gorbachev-inf-treaty-trump-nuclear-arms.html

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Opinion | Mikhail Gorbachev: A New Nuclear Arms Race Has Begun
President Trump says he plans to withdraw from a nonproliferation treaty that I signed with Ronald Reagan. It’s just the latest victim in the militarization of world affairs.
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[21-Dec-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he does...


[21-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh tho, don't we all?


[21-Dec-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate the modern world, yes


[21-Dec-19 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if i had to compare trump to a race in star trek, it would be these fucks:

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[21-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The weird thing is he basically indicates that he thinks that the treaties the US set up in the cold war were a really good thing


[21-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that he's very much not a fan of Trump tearing them down.


[21-Dec-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their entire thing was that they beleived to be a species meant you needed stronger and stronger weapons so you have to take thme by force form other races and build up your arsenol to be stronger


[21-Dec-19 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to them treaties would be a weakness thye couldnt afford


[21-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, Gorbachev if he were put in the US House of Representatives as a Democrat


[21-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
wouldn't even be noticed


[21-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd just be kinda, there, next to Pelosi, with some choice words about Trump's latest screwup.


[21-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, it's possible Pelosi would call him too liberal.


[21-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then move on with whatever shit she's doing.


[21-Dec-19 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump would love nothing more than a good ol threat of nuclear war because thne he gets to be full on aggressive while threatening everyone with nukes if they don't stand down


[21-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Damn, imagine Gorbachev on TV asking Trump to tear down his wall


[21-Dec-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would do that.


[21-Dec-19 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he weren't in Russia slowly aging to death.


[21-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/these-4-changes-helped-trump-and-democrats-agree-to-the-usmca-trade-deal

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Democratic lawmakers and the White House are both claiming victory for the major North American trade deal that is now expected to win approval from Congress after more than a year of deadlock.
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[21-Dec-19 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big news is removing a 10-year protection on healthcare innovations


[21-Dec-19 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump threw big pharma under the bus to save the trade deal.


[21-Dec-19 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finally he threw the correect people under the bus


[21-Dec-19 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/leaked-audio-trump-adviser-says-republicans-traditionally-rely-on-voter-suppression-1.4739219

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Leaked audio: Trump adviser says Republicans 'traditionally' rely ...
One of U.S. President Donald Trump's top re-election advisers told influential Republicans that the party has 'traditionally' relied on voter suppression to compete in battleground states but will be able to 'start playing offence' in 2020, according to an audio recording obt...
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[21-Dec-19 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh boy can't wait to see what kinds of manipulation the GOP will do next year


[21-Dec-19 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, if they're at it, why not just directly fraud the physical ballots by faking new vote tickets


[21-Dec-19 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the focus of this article is the time they hired off-duty cops to wear ~~nazi~~political armbands and giv any blakk people the evil eye outside polling places to ensure they voted correctly (for cops to shoot them) and in the correct numbers (as few as possible).


[21-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. He's still alive.


[21-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
would be curious to read his stuff.


[21-Dec-19 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
unlike older folk I don't hold any resentment against him


[21-Dec-19 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IeroVaOpaQ

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[21-Dec-19 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
...I wonder what Gorbachev thinks of our situation with Russia atm.


[21-Dec-19 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
It's fucked


[21-Dec-19 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty sure gorbachev is looking at the entire world as a giant burning garbage fire


[21-Dec-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is a good summation of current events


[21-Dec-19 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a giant burning garbage fire in a 200 foot dumpster


[21-Dec-19 04:12 AM] illumnious#7938
so I watched the 2016 debate and scroll down the comments and holy shit, a bunch of 2019 in a nutshell with trump

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[21-Dec-19 05:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[21-Dec-19 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
London is like, 75% of the UK's GDP it's insane.


[21-Dec-19 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
N e o l i b e r a l i s m.


[21-Dec-19 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republic of London vs Kingdom of England


[21-Dec-19 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eat the rich.


[21-Dec-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
>Austria


[21-Dec-19 10:02 AM] ononim#8141
>Northern Europe


[21-Dec-19 10:31 AM] Your Master~#5759
Trump is trash.


[21-Dec-19 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
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[21-Dec-19 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd say eat trump, but you;d probably get fatal food poisoning


[21-Dec-19 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-rights/north-korea-warns-u-s-could-pay-dearly-for-human-rights-criticism-idUSKBN1YP01Y

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North Korea warns U.S. could 'pay dearly' for human rights criticism
North Korea lashed back at the United States for taking issue with its human rig...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191221&t=2&i=1466691833&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFBK01I


[21-Dec-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's the insane dictator we all know and loathe


[21-Dec-19 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-raises-smoking-age-funds-gun-research-signs-spending-bill-2019-12

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Trump raises smoking age and funds gun violence research in $1.4 t...
President Donald Trump signed into law a $1.4 trillion set of spending measures. They include sweeping policy initiatives that stem from both si...
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[21-Dec-19 12:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie do you think neoliberalism will last forever, or at least come back cyclically?


[21-Dec-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/buttigieg-leads-2020-rivals-in-wall-street-contributions-2019-12

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The financial sector is lining up behind Pete Buttigieg. He leads ...
While Buttigieg is not alone in turning to the finance industry for support, the data could leave him exposed to attacks from his progressive rivals.
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[21-Dec-19 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as this shit is happening, chances are neoliberalism is going to be alive and well


[21-Dec-19 01:23 PM] jlun2#8758
so forever, got it


[21-Dec-19 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast till the field of democrats shrinks enough to the point where the dnc cant use numbers to dilute the voter pool of candidates they don't like


[21-Dec-19 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has till july for the democratic primaries, and august for the now pretty much defunct republican primaries


[21-Dec-19 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump pretty much cancelled therepublican primaries to keep anyone from rebelling against him


[21-Dec-19 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what really needs to happen is that citizen united needs to die a fiery hell death in the burning pits of fuck


[21-Dec-19 01:56 PM] Opponent#3498
what's that?


[21-Dec-19 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

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Citizens United v. FEC
Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), is a landmark United States Supreme Court case concerning campaign finance. The Court held that the free speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditure...


[21-Dec-19 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially citizens united is the ruling that allowed corporations to pour money into elections


[21-Dec-19 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, well.


[21-Dec-19 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s essentially why rich people are the only people who can actually run in this shit


[21-Dec-19 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
well, rather, it's, perhaps, the final move in that direction. This was the case way before that.


[21-Dec-19 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the case itself was an attempt to put a stop tot hat but it backfired and the supreme court ruled that corporations are people too


[21-Dec-19 02:28 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
Are those fucking HK protesters want to make HK bankrupt?


[21-Dec-19 02:28 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
This need to be stopped!


[21-Dec-19 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, china needs to stop reneging on their agreements


[21-Dec-19 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3043026/hong-kong-protests-double-blow-carrie-lam-judges-snub

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Double blow for Lam as judges snub unrest inquiry and police probe...
Sources say several retired judges turned down opportunity to lead review committee looking at causes of anti-government protests, while Beijing quashed suggestion of commission of inquiry.
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[21-Dec-19 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair "the four" were already bankrupting hong kong into economic struggle long before the protestors


[21-Dec-19 02:32 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
what are those 5 demands? even my grandma doesn't know!


[21-Dec-19 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Dec-19 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
demand 1 has been met


[21-Dec-19 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basic summary: The 2019 Hong Kong protests are an ongoing series of demonstrations in Hong Kong triggered by the introduction of the Fugitive Offenders amendment bill by the Hong Kong government.[35][36] If enacted, the bill would have allowed the extradition of criminal fugitives who are wanted in territories with which Hong Kong does not currently have extradition agreements, including Taiwan and mainland China.[37] This led to concerns that the bill would subject Hong Kong residents and visitors to the jursidiction and legal system of mainland China, thereby undermining the region's autonomy and Hong Kong people's civil liberties.[38][39][40][41] As the protests progressed, the protesters laid out five key demands, namely the withdrawal of the bill, investigation into alleged police brutality and misconduct, the release of arrested protesters, a complete retraction of the official characterisation of the protests as "riots", and Chief Executive Carrie Lam's resignation along with the introduction of universal suffrage for election of the Legislative Council and the Chief Executive.[42][43]


[21-Dec-19 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the fear was that beiijing would use the bill to abduct random hong kong citizens into their prison camps, which isnt entirely unfounded


[21-Dec-19 02:49 PM] Opponent#3498
if HK was going bankrupt even without protesters, it may already have outlived it's usefulness


[21-Dec-19 02:50 PM] Opponent#3498
as I understood, the whole reason it was allowed to exist in autonomy was how much it was giving to China's economy


[21-Dec-19 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if better regulation was placed on the corporations within hong kong they would have had a better thriving economy


[21-Dec-19 02:52 PM] Opponent#3498
hah. imagine the slogan - 'Neoliberalism is killing /has killed Hong Kong'


[21-Dec-19 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially the real estate sector which was dominated by 4 people with a fetish for cash


[21-Dec-19 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stupidest part is that china said that their agreement with britain for hong kong was non legally binding, as such britain can take hong kong back


[21-Dec-19 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they can try ;)


[21-Dec-19 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they can probably succeed


[21-Dec-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rpoblem is that britain is beign run by donald trump with a bowl cut, so that likely isnt going to be attmepted


[21-Dec-19 02:58 PM] Opponent#3498
on China's doorstep? Highly unlikely, especially if US won't support them (and why would they)


[21-Dec-19 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would this be settled on china;s doorstep? this wouldbe challenged in an international court


[21-Dec-19 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
China's attitude towards international laws is similar to Russia


[21-Dec-19 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
in that they exist in separate worlds.


[21-Dec-19 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
like, you can fine Russia for a trillion $ for every tiny thing, they'll ignore you and keep on doing whatever it is they were fined for.


[21-Dec-19 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
China would likely be more 'westernised', instead of ignoring you they'd stonewall you for decades at a time


[21-Dec-19 03:03 PM] Opponent#3498
and from what I've seen, political initiatives in modern world have a shelf life of 2nd tier memes.


[21-Dec-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point, you have to target the businesses they deal with instead of the government


[21-Dec-19 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knock out their influence in the business world, you kill their ability to ignore it


[21-Dec-19 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is probably more manageable, if only just.


[21-Dec-19 03:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/dec/20/lego-accused-of-muscling-in-on-fans-after-bricklink-takeover

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Lego accused of muscling in on fans after BrickLink takeover
Sale has alarmed secondhand brick collectors but Danish toymaker claims it is about reconnecting with customers
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[21-Dec-19 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
'muscling in on unauthorised creativity'


[21-Dec-19 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
aka 'we're not THAT special kind of snowflake anymore'


[21-Dec-19 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
cue big reeeee


[21-Dec-19 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
(no skree bot. Crushing disappointment.)

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[21-Dec-19 03:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) if corperations are people can you marry one


[21-Dec-19 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well you can marry into one, though citizen's united is on a 1st ammendment basis


[21-Dec-19 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure people have tried to marry walmart before though


[21-Dec-19 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Dec-19 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
this aint corporations thing tho, rather someone got lucky enough. Pretty much american dream as originally intended.


[21-Dec-19 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
the only way to actually make money in our lifetime is get noticed by affluent and/or mainstream media. US has it easier in this regard than the rest of the world, I feel, with the amount of money people tend to throw around.


[21-Dec-19 04:53 PM] Opponent#3498
this kinda thing makes doing anything other than bare survival kinda pointless. You can chase the dream, and with a chance approaching 100% never get there. Or you can eke out slow, slugging 'build a life' existance, being constantly taunted by those 'success stories' that are never, by design, repeatable.


[21-Dec-19 04:53 PM] Opponent#3498
whatever you do, you feel like you lost.


[21-Dec-19 04:53 PM] Opponent#3498
but, them's the cards we're dealt.


[21-Dec-19 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/082c873c8b32972217caa1eebf167ab9

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US heads to court to build Trump border wall in Texas
HOUSTON (AP) — Three years into Donald Trump's presidency, the U.S. government is ramping up its efforts to seize private land in Texas to build a border wall. Trump's signature campaign...
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[21-Dec-19 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theroot.com/trump-calls-impeachment-a-hoax-remains-impeached-1840555872

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Trump Calls Impeachment a ‘Hoax’. Remains Impeached
At this point, Trump can call the impeachment proceedings anything he wants, but it isn’t going to stop the inevitable. After meeting turncoat New Jersey Rep. Jeff Van Drew who voted against Trump’s impeachment as a Democrat and then switched to the Republican Party, Trum...
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[21-Dec-19 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475517-white-house-considers-arguing-that-trump-wasnt-impeached-reports

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White House considers arguing that Trump wasn't impeached: reports
The White House is thinking about making the argument that President Trump wasn't impeached because Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has not sent articles of impeachment to the Senate, according to multiple reports.
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[21-Dec-19 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Truly the biggest brain


[21-Dec-19 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i say i;m not impeached, that makes it true!"


[21-Dec-19 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Quickly aides, burn the constitution so thye can;t prove me wrong!"


[21-Dec-19 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is that while i;m joking, he has probably considered making that order several times now


[21-Dec-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b83c6654e4a618aec1e88a2ca2eea07a

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Second Amendment Sanctuary push aims to defy new gun laws
BUCKINGHAM, Va. (AP) —  A standing-room only crowd of more than 400 packed the meeting room, filled the lobby and spilled into the parking lot recently in rural Buckingham County, Virginia. They...
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[21-Dec-19 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is not how gun laws work you asshats


[21-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
```The Second Amendment Sanctuary movement began after Democrats promising new gun control laws took over both chambers of the state legislature in the Nov. 5 election. ```


[21-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
they are pushed, they push back.


[21-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
> One proposal by incoming Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw has enflamed gun rights advocates and helped fuel the Second Amendment Sanctuary movement. The bill, as initially proposed, would make it a felony to sell, manufacture, purchase or possess assault weapons and certain magazines. Saslaw has since said that allowing current owners to keep their weapons “makes sense,” and he expects to amend the bill.


[21-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
> “For whatever reasons, people, especially in these communities, have a deep-seated fear that universal firearm confiscation is just around the corner,” Miller said.


[21-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
**for whatever reasons** 😂


[21-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
Dems are as tone-deaf with these proposals as Reps normally are.


[21-Dec-19 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, as _deliberately_ tone-deaf.


[21-Dec-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/va2sp4gh7n541.jpg

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[21-Dec-19 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Not only killing them, but profiting from their demise


[21-Dec-19 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh fucking moment


[21-Dec-19 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
We
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[21-Dec-19 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[21-Dec-19 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lzdgpqasjw541.jpg this is wrong because Moscow Mitch got them DSL

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[21-Dec-19 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, US firms sell fake first aid kits :D

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[21-Dec-19 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
well, of a very poor quality (ironically enough, apparently you can tell them apart by having a nice packaging; US army stuff has the crappiest, most disposable packaging imaginable, but good quality instead).


[21-Dec-19 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wat


[21-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/20/matt-shea-domestic-terrorism-washington-state-report

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Republican Matt Shea 'participated in act of domestic terrorism', ...
Report produced for Washington state legislature following reporting from the Guardian and other outlets on Shea’s activities
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[21-Dec-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/clint-lorance-trump-pardon-deep-state-military-patriotism-2019-12

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He was sentenced to 19 years for war crimes. After his pardon, Cli...
Clint Lorance was serving a 19-year sentence for the murder of two Afghans when Trump pardoned him. He blames "senior bureaucrats" for his conviction.
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[21-Dec-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In the month since Clint Lorance — the former US Army soldier who was convicted of war crimes — was pardoned by President Donald Trump, he's publicly thanked Trump and even went on stage at one of his fundraisers. 
Lorance was convicted in 2013 on two counts of second-degree murder for the 2012 incident where he ordered his platoon's soldiers to fire at three unarmed Afghan men on a motorcycle, killing two. Lorance has maintained this act was in self-defense.
Republican lawmakers and conservative commentators welcomed Lorance back — not as a convict who'd redeemed himself, but as a victim of a smear campaign by the US military and progressives.


[21-Dec-19 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking things like tourniquets that break when you actually try to apply them, that sort of thing.


[21-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The criticism of bureaucracy, government workers, and the intelligence community will lead to another 9/11.


[21-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
gun community issues PSAs about this sort of stuff from time to time


[21-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not a prediction, it's basically a reality.


[21-Dec-19 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow if dubs the GOP tries to launch a coup with help from militias next year


[21-Dec-19 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seriously, this is very fishy


[21-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We'll have some major terrorist attack that was forewarned but not listened to because "unelected bureaucrat"


[21-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then people will wonder why it happened


[21-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
I can't tell what you're trying to say, what's dubs?


[21-Dec-19 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"If dubs" is an expression


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Roughly equivalent to "i bet"


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any US firm selling fake medical stuff would get slammed for false advertising btw.


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
oh, ok, haven't seen it before


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, sources pls.


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
you mean the wapo image? it's from 2016


[21-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
in a few.


[21-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I haven't heard anything at all about the US selling fake first aid kits


[21-Dec-19 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have met gun nuts before, they woudl totally attempt an armed coup for the republican party if they so ordered it. real "get them before they get you" crowd they are...


[21-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Dec-19 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not talking about normal gun owners here, i;m talking about the guys who tell you that you should buy a gun for the specific purpose of protecting the rest of your guns from the government


[21-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's a real interesting one: a comic supporting the only Jewish candidate uses an anti-Semitic canard to denigrate one of his political opponents

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[21-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
> The Republican Washington state representative Matthew Shea “participated in an act of domestic terrorism against the United States” and represents a threat of political violence, according to a report produced for the Washington state legislature.
> 
> Shea is a far-right figure who holds extremist Christian, nationalist and Islamophobic beliefs. The report said it had made the judgment over terrorism by his actions before and during an armed takeover and standoff at the Malheur national wildlife refuge in 2016 in Oregon.
> 
> The report further contends that in a document entitled the Biblical Basis for War, Shea “advocated the replacement of US democracy with a theocracy and the killing of all males who do not agree”.
> 
> In its conclusion, while commenting that Shea is not an “imminent direct threat … it is more probable than not that Representative Shea is likely to plan, direct and engage in additional future conflicts that could carry with them significant risk of bloodshed and loss of life”.


[21-Dec-19 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Shea, who rarely talks to reporters, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. In a statement issued through his lawyer to Northwest News Network, Shea wrote: “I will not back down. I will continue to fight for our shared values which have made this country such a blessing to the rest of the world.”


[21-Dec-19 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh it's always this abstract fucking excuse


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's always a nonanswer.


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dodge the question, say you support THE VALUES


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't ask them anything but loaded questions.


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Am I a terrorist? I wouldn't call myself one, I just really love THE NUCLEAR FAMILY


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Do you want to kill minorities, yes or no"


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're great values! I bought thme at walmart!@


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minorities? I don't see color, I just see our values dying.


[21-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr republican washington state representative is a domestic terrorist who has the potential to carry out attacks that lead to "bloodshed and loss of life"


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
What does race matter? Well, it matters a lot when you're trying to keep everyone where they belong.


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
etc. etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Do you want to kill people who don't share your values"


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Etc


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
> On the first day of the occupation, Shea circulated a “military style operations plan”, codenamed “Operation Cold Reality”, via encrypted email to Cows members. They included the Idaho state representative Heather Scott, the Nevada assemblywoman Michele Fiore, Shea associates Anthony Bosworth and Jack Robertson, and Anne Byrd, whose husband, Barry, is the pastor for the secretive, patriot movement-aligned Marble community church in Stevens county, Washington.


[21-Dec-19 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
> Cows (Coalition of Western States)

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[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh people are so afraid of another Oklahoma City because of a Waco that were encouraging this


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
they're appropriating the cute little cows as a symbol of violence and hate


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just carpet bomb the damn compound and make Waco look like a joke if this shit happens again.


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor cows


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
> It says Shea “planned the 2016 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge; engaged in the conflict by directing Cows (Coalition of Western States) members and militias in support of the takeover; and traveled to Burns, Oregon, and met with refuge armed occupiers contrary to appeals and warnings from law enforcement and Oregon state elected officials”.


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Coalition of Republican Organizations of the Western States


[21-Dec-19 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CROWS

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[21-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
CAW

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[21-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Collect All Weapons


[21-Dec-19 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
GOAT: Grandmas Offering Automatic Tanks


[21-Dec-19 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Bosworth later directly participated in the occupation of the federal facility under Shea’s instructions, where he “likely committed criminal acts” including the theft of surveillance cameras.
> The report further details Shea’s extensive participation in other militant patriot movement activities, including two more confrontations with the federal government – at Bunkerville, Nevada, and Priest River, Idaho.
> At Bunkerville in 2014, when the Bundy family and their supporters staged an armed confrontation with federal authorities over unpaid grazing fees, the report says Shea first despatched Bosworth to the area, issued a call to arms so that others in the patriot movement would make the journey, and eventually traveled there himself .


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking if asked that, they'd again dodge.


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's always dodge.


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Kill? I don't know about that. I'd just protect my values and my family. The whole nation is my family."


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they only ever get loaded questions.


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and insist on getting a "yes or no" answer


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
You really don't get it.


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless they're in court, you can't force them to answer a specific way.


[21-Dec-19 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's no convincing them directly


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They will dodge regardless of the "it;s a yes or no answer"


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will always dodge and load the answer with grandstanding.


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, there is the possibility of bystanders being horrified at his answers


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way to get at these people is to make them accidentally grandstand into saying they'd kill people.


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to lead them.


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
For example, if you ask her about what that "protecting her family" entails.


[21-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
She might talk about shooting "undesirables"


[21-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you can ask what an "undesirable" is


[21-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you can say "So, you're saying you think you will need to shoot brown people?"


[21-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then she can TRY to dodge, but it's too late.


[21-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to get them to giv the answers that logically connect to them wanting to do immoral shit.


[21-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then make the connection explicit for people reading the interview.


[21-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean this guy straight up said he wants to replace the US government with a theocracy and kill anyone who disagrees


[21-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Still


[21-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
we liv in a world where there are people who deliberately giv literal nazis the benefit of the doubt


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
while shitting all over anyone saying we should tax the rich a little maybe.


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Centrists" will _always_ accept right wing ideas more easily than left wing ones


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it's worse than that


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
you don't even get it


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a guy I argue with sometimes who like, RPs as this cute pony of pureness


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A centrist will listen and give a chance to why we should execute minorities, but "be concerned" about things like universal healthcare etc


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and every time I tell him about bad shit


[21-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
he goes


[21-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Oh, well I hope it gets better! Maybe Trump will fix things."

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[21-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
After I've just told him Trump is murdering brown people.


[21-Dec-19 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is like the full blown perpetual denial stage of greif


[21-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll go "oh, that's awful that they're put in cages and everyone's in poverty, but I'm sure there's a way we can make this all better."


[21-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, one especial thing he does is


[21-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
He reasons that borders NEED to be closed, because that has to be better, because it's what is being done.


[21-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like his logic is that everything Republicans/Trump/the US gov't is currently doing MUST BE the correct action because it's what they're doing.


[21-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that they surely would not do an action that hurts people.


[21-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he says that everything Trump is doing on the border is just a necessary evil, the best possible thing to make of a bad situation.


[21-Dec-19 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like he is so far into believing everyone's nice, that when someone is committing genocide, he makes up an excuse by which they are a little angel who just got forced to do the least bad thing.


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie-chamber in progress xD


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
genocide is "the least bad" thing?


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
and you actually agree with this stuff. Ahh.


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
His assumption is anything being done must be the least-bad thing.


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is blindly believing the law is always fair


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can't envision a world where an action is taken that isn't the best at helping people.


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fuck is worse than genocide?


[21-Dec-19 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ask him what he thinks of the holocaust and nazi persecution of Jews


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Surely a question that loaded might induce him to begin thinking, but well, i'm not sure


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Me and some others asked him about slavery once


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
he said that there were some good slave owners


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
who treated them better.


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pffff


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That they weren't all bad, slavery wasn't all bad, etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Macarou#9574
That's a laugh if I've ever had one


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But hitler only cared about the good of germany, though misguided i beleive he did the right thing for his people"


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly my stance is that slavery is so inhumane


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That like


[21-Dec-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok now that is supernaturally stupid


[21-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
the people who killed slave owners were basically killing non-humans, how can you be human and have that morality?


[21-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
After that, me and said others gave up and tossed him out of the political argument group we had going.


[21-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like holy shit


[21-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the guy would argue not every nazi who killed jews was bad.


[21-Dec-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... this sounds familiar


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He also argued that like, confederate monuments are a part of our history, so they're good, and that slavery isn't a problem because nobody alive remembers it.


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Macarou#9574
Oh jeez


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone alive remembers it


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people who believe "no one is truly evil"


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did he still pass off as a clueless political initiate?


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but Its


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
when objectively true good and true evil must exist


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
there's a direction to it


[21-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whenever like, he hears about something Bernie is doing


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
he says it must be bad


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is there a way to make them rethink their opinions?


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
he says it has problems, that it would make the rich flee, etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doubts the goodness of liberal stuff, but the badness of conservative stuff.


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i beleive in moral greyness but even i'm not that dellusioned...


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/christianity-today-article-was-a-breath-of-fresh-air-for-those-evangelicals-not-behind-trump-evangelical-editor/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Christianity Today’ article was a ‘breath of fresh air’ f...
The Christianity Today article calling for President Donald Trump’s removal from office — appearing in a publication founded by the late Rev. Billy Graham and directed at an audience overwhelmingly supportive of the president — sparked a national conversation about the ...
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[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, that goes back to my original belief that "centrists" are always more receptive to right wing things


[21-Dec-19 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus it's like this is reinforcing the notion that some people are born inherently predisposed to reactionary beliefs and that nothing will change that


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also he has a tendency to "forget" problems with right wing stuff


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, this goes for the left as well


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
a big one is religion


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which is not something i want to believe in tbqh


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I kept telling him about the genocide of the Midianites and other OT shit


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone on the left tries to push left, leftists will basically try to concern troll the shit out of them


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he always forgot


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
"forgot"


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone on the left hears about the right, _they treat them completely seriously_


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be like "I heard Old Testament god was a stricter guy, about the same, but more punishing" etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Define "seriously"


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like um...OT god committed genocide on a regular basis and would hav children be raped to further the genocide.


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give them the benefit of the doubt, seriously discuss them


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've seen a lot of fellow leftists reacting to conservatives in direct convos with nothing other than the utmost contempt tbf


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Treat their ideas as completely possible and realistic


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I pressed him btw on the core of his political beliefs


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
he thinks this is being neutral.


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like he thinks that the way to be politically neutral/independent is to doubt leftists.


[21-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are people who are opposed to you on every stance you have to the world deserving of anything but contempt?


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like he thinks that the environment overall is unusually far left


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
therefore he should doubt the holocaust was really all that bad.


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
congrats, it's a conservative


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's slowly coming around on economic issues, btw.


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Slowly.


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Trump's impeachment broke him.


[21-Dec-19 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whaddya mean by "coming around"


[21-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in he rapidly concedes that high taxes on the rich are sustainable.


[21-Dec-19 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[21-Dec-19 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lolwut


[21-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than jumping to THEY WILL JUST FLEE THE COUNTRY


[21-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And BUT FRENCH REVOLUTION IS JUST LIKE THIS YOU WANT THEIR HEADS


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've talked to people who are like "You know Bezos only has like three million in his bank account at any given time, all of his worth is his assets"


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
His assets he could sell in a heartbeat and that will keep him forever afloat.


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Never needing to work an actual job.


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they go on "How awful it is that you would have to sell assets to pay taxes"


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like these people don't understand what investments are.


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and I'm like


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Real estate is better than a bank account.


[21-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You pay no taxes on it if you hav the right accountant.


[21-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People shit on Warren but like based on her calculator like


[21-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bezos is worth 114 billion


[21-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If she served two terms, he would pay around 54 billion in taxes


[21-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How can the poor guy live on 60 billion


[21-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this guy only reads headlines.


[21-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like you hav to copypaste article text to actually get him to understand what the hell is going on.


[21-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll just react to the headline otherwise.


[21-Dec-19 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unfortunately i notice this is the case with a lot of people


[21-Dec-19 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even me sometimes


[21-Dec-19 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-zealand-gun-buyback-after-assault-weapon-ban-2019-12

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[21-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
American culture caused the shooting


[21-Dec-19 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
New Zealand authorities reportedly collected more than 50,000 guns in a buyback program eight months after lawmakers responded to the country's worst massacre in history. 

The Associated Press reports that critics said the process was flawed and some owners would illegally hide their firearms despite the ban, which applied to most types of semi-automatic weapons. 

Initial figures indicated that 33,000 people handed in 51,000 guns, in addition to 5,000 more as part of an amnesty provision that would also involve payment for the firearm, according to the AP. Additionally, 2,700 guns were modified to make them legally compliant.


[21-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, it's a real treat dealing with some conservatives, Its.


[21-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like you hav to realize there are people so deluded they see someone holding two AK-47s saying "protect family values"


[21-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they just go "aww, they care about their children!"


[21-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they *don't understand* the subtext, or why it would be wrong.


[21-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't like a lot of words and call you pretentious if you explain things


[21-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or they just say that you're weird for suspecting bad motives.


[21-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just stoop to their level a bit and shitpost memes or something.


[21-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
That you should see it's just good people being goody goods!


[21-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism runs on overwhelming positivity towards literal Nazis


[21-Dec-19 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and overwhelming negativity towards jews/blakks/whatever the target is today


[21-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just go whole hog in the opposite direction, Beto it


[21-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck yeah I want open borders"


[21-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Keep crying bitch, we'll get it" etc


[21-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then they go "but that would be terrible, we don't do it cause it'd ruin the country!" etc. etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Let rich folk flee the country, we can rebuild a better society without those fucks!


[21-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Real fun is to use historical arguments


[21-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US used to hav basically open borders


[21-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
at least on land.


[21-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a 20th century thing to build actual fences.


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's a late 19th and late 20th thing to hav such ridiculous steps to actually get citizenship.


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie When I talk like that I'm not talking in good faith


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm making a point in bad faith to upset them because that's their playbook


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and it works


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no point in having good faith in arguments with conservatives.


[21-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire premise is to apply bad faith to the world from the start, even before arguing.


[21-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's an ideology entirely designed around lying about intentions.


[21-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Responding to that with good faith is mind-numbingly slow to reveal the bad intentions.


[21-Dec-19 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
arguing bad faith with more bad faith just gets double the bad faith


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to reveal a truth they don't want to


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Person arguing in good faith loses every time to the bad faith arguer


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
then switch to good faith and start hammering.


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So you might as well be in bad faith too


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also that


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly, you have to use dubious faith instead


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Alternatively, argue in bad faith _for_ their stances


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once you get their cards on the table, you can actually argue them.


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if someone said "I just want to protect my family by getting rid of undesirables"


[21-Dec-19 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
start with facts then beat them with the shovel of knowledge


[21-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prior to that, the argument's pointless, they're Iron Manning


[21-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Be like "Hell yeah, we should kill all the minorities! I agree with you dude!"


[21-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
(opposite of strawman)


[21-Dec-19 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
steel man


[21-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Steelmanning
Steelmanning is a neologism for the principle of charity, coined on LessWrong by Scott Alexander, in analogy to "straw man". The principle of charity is the maxim that in debate, one should take the strongest possible understanding of the opponent's position. It is a warning against the straw man argument. Only if you defeat the strongest possible version of your opponent's argument can you say that you've robustly defeated their position.

Related to steelmanning is the Ideological Turing Test, which asserts: If someone understands their opponent's belief so well that they can convince a blinded observer who is a true believer, and yet still not actually believe it, there's a good chance that that belief is wrong.[3][4][5] The first part of this test is useful: if you can repeat somebody's argument back to them in such a way that they agree with everything you say (and do not wish you had included more), then you have properly understood/summarized their position. However, the second part is not: just because you can understand somebody else's view fully, but still reject it, does not mean that their belief is incorrect. This is because your rejection of their belief is based on additional beliefs that you hold, which may be incorrect or which they may not accept.

See also Dennett's Rules, which includes a version of steelmanning.

Iron manning
Unlike steelmanning, Ironmanning is the converse of strawmanning. An ironman argument is an intentional misrepresentation of one's own or another's position, often used to make it appear that one's arguments are stronger than they actually are in order to more easily defend it, or to make it appear that one's critics are unfair or shrill.[6]


[21-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you sure have a serious dislike for conservatives and centrists. Who do you even like? How did you develop such a dislike for them?


[21-Dec-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I watched thme for many years and watched them strip benefits and help from my family


[21-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
alright. What about you @Nebbie ?


[21-Dec-19 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also hate neoliberal democrats


[21-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well I generally dislike people who actively try to harm others for their own benefit, especially while they lie about it.


[21-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also people who try to go against logic and reason, especially when they use their power to suppress knowledge.


[21-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you're okay with Trump's administration gagging scientists and changing rules such that 4 more people die a day on average, well fukk you to death.


[21-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That 4 a day thing is a real example btw


[21-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
EPA's own estimate was about 4 people a day would die because of relaxing the rule on coal plants.


[21-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so they did it.


[21-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html

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By Lisa Friedman
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html
Cost of New E.P.A. Coal Rules: Up to 1,400 More Deaths a Year
The Trump administration unveiled its overhaul of pollution rules for coal-fired power plants, and its analysis shows an increase of up to 1,400 premature deaths annually.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/08/22/climate/22CLI-CLEANPOWER1/22CLI-CLEANPOWER1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Dec-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also relaxed rules on the meat inustry because what the fuck is mad cow disease, amirite?


[21-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously like, don't hide behind "you're just biased against conservatives"


[21-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell yes I'm biased against utter fukking scumbags.


[21-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Utter fukking scumbags do not deserve any form of respect.


[21-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mitch McConnel responds to bills that would save thousands of lives a year and improve election security with "well I can just not call a vote!"


[21-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
So what would you like to see happen to them then?


[21-Dec-19 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would liek to see thme ousted from the government entirely


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also imprisoned


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well ideally, I would like to see their children actually given a proper education by gov't funding


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
with diverse classes etc.


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
(bus as many blakk kids around as possible)


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
so that when they grow up, they aren't shitty like their parents.


[21-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then said parents can go die alone while they scream about how our culture is dying.


[21-Dec-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i worry for barron trump


[21-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that you can only really change beliefs on a generational basis


[21-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just take boomers and reeducate them to actually value scientific reasoning and the worth of lives of minorities.


[21-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NKaqCnMNvA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NKaqCnMNvA
Counterfeit Medical Gear
While taking a Dirt Medicine/Trauma course from Independence Training I was astonished to hear about counterfeit medical gear, and in particular, toruniquets.    

Certainly we're all familiar with knock-off Aimpoints, EoTechs and other firearms related accessories, but the i...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5NKaqCnMNvA/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll follow up on their sources later.


[21-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
still kinda busy.


[21-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just hav to wait for them to fukking die while their grandchildren learn that gay/brown/jewish people are not in fact inhuman monsters and that maybe poor people aren't at fault for being poor directly.


[21-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well i'd like to continue this conversation further but i must leave for work now


[21-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Macarou#9574
Have fun


[21-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.rescue-essentials.com/rescue-essentials-blog/beware-fake-cat-tourniquets-on-amazon/

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Beware Fake CAT Tourniquets on Amazon
Save money where you can but be careful when buying "cheap medical supplies", especially CAT tourniquets on Amazon.
https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-rd4j7/product_images/uploaded_images/cat.jpg


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Opponent I think you got this very wrong


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
From what I am seeing


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
the problem is there are randos on the web selling fake knokkoff merch to make a quikk bukk


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
because making the real thing is expensive and people are easily duped


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
not that companies are being allowed by the gov't to provide fake merch so that undesirables die.


[21-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, there's nothing in this about an american company selling fake stuff


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
asa child i was beat over the head about the dangers of going to hell, even tot he point of getting a religiouscomic about a child being bullied to suicide but getting sent to hell for it. 

This was never from my parents though, it was from older religious neighbors.


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this had the opposite effect from what they wanted and actually taught me to not treat people like this


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I never said it was a top 20 corporation doing it.


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fake tourniquets are contemptible, but this seems like it's an issue of rando scammers and not societal allowance when directed at certain groups.


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
but people are doing it... PRobably same as with Turkey shit


[21-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is this isn't comparable to the Turkey situation


[21-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Macarou#9574
Jeez, that's quite dreadful Intexda.


[21-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Turkey situation involves a specific targeting by the society, deliberately trying to kill people.


[21-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
On religiosity of children, there seems to be a double-sided push to atheism.


[21-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Parents that try to force religion on hard fail, kid escapes.


[21-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Parents that don't do anything fail too, kid just never gets enveloped.


[21-Dec-19 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  im just curious who are the young religious activists


[21-Dec-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i used to fear hell but the more i grew up the less religious i became and the mroe hell made less fucking sense as a concept


[21-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
To my understanding, to maintain religiosity between generations, you need a strong social group raising the kid and passively instilling values with a few active measures on the side.


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially from a moral stand point


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/07/does-it-get-any-sicker-a-turkish-firm-has-been-selling-fake-life-vests-they-soak-up-water-for-refugees-at-sea/


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is, when religion started to decline, religious groups went nuts with hard reining in


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
> Turkish police raided the workshop in Izmir — a port city that is often a departure point for migrants hoping to make it to Europe — and found workers stuffing the jackets with packaging rather than buoyancy aids, according to the BBC.


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
which just forces them out faster.


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man I looked it up and there's really no althist that asks the question "What if Carter won in 1980?"


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It all depends on approach. Everyone is religious "here".


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like there should be modern interest in such a point of divergence


[21-Dec-19 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
worship the 🐔


[21-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 white middle class idiots.


[21-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It boild down to "visit church every sunday at 12:00 sharp and say 'oh my WORD '"


[21-Dec-19 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of this attempted religious brainwashing was from other parents in christian families


[21-Dec-19 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  did you church got overtaken by old ppl too


[21-Dec-19 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never went to church and my family isnt christian


[21-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
On my side of things, it was just my mom was never very religious


[21-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I had no reason to get into religion.


[21-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
i went to one, was invited by friend for some sort of promotion thing with oath


[21-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every time I heard about it, it seemed contemptible, as well.


[21-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Macarou#9574
No one in my family, or around me, seemed to care about religion, I mostly heard about it in history books


[21-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like anything about Christian history is horrid.


[21-Dec-19 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
i've been to a religous school before. it was mostly christain in name only


[21-Dec-19 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have lost friends because their parents misheard my name as "the son of satan's" name as well...


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this actually became a slight problem in middle school too from religious students


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Damien?


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Besides that ceremony, visit to church includes: 30 min speech by priest, 15 minutes of singing "I was bliiiiiind, now i seeeeeeeee" and socializing for the rest of day.


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
http://www.cihs.edu.hk/
found it

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[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah they misheard my name as that


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
horrid school


[21-Dec-19 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
dont reccomend ever


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
You must understand the way religion works


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a social organization


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
that forms small communities and a central government


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
the actual teachings aren't the point.


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
tax exepmt


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] jlun2#8758
i feel like I learned nothing; struggled alot in 1st year uni because poor everything


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're just something to refer to so that the government can justify its decisions.


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this is why separation of church and state makes religion go nuts


[21-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It ceases to be a government.


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it still happens to this day even though my name clearly isnt pronounced or spelled that way


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
"intexda"?


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fun fact: town population is 200-ish. 7 churches. 1 clinic.


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my actual name


[21-Dec-19 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫  what town is that and wtf


[21-Dec-19 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
i assume it's also 90% old white folks?


[21-Dec-19 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
or 99%


[21-Dec-19 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
with zero job oppurtunity


[21-Dec-19 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think my town has like 8 hurches from what i;ve seen so far, possibly more in parts of town i havemt been to


[21-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 any small town "here".


[21-Dec-19 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-many-churches-in-small-towns-I-count-at-least-50-within-10-miles-according-to-Google-a-small-town-of-around-3-000>
> And if you ask each of those 50 different churches, you will will probably discover that there is only one correct way to worship and the other 49 are heretics. (50 times over).
:ponythinking:


[21-Dec-19 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
anyone here able to vouch for this?


[21-Dec-19 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I live in a small town with 6 churches


[21-Dec-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
population 3000


[21-Dec-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I can vouch for there being way too fucking many


[21-Dec-19 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
can't say for the heretic thing


[21-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see it rather as "social clubs"


[21-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 And it's rural town in middle of nowhere, if one isn't farmer, there is nothing else to do.


[21-Dec-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have walmart and dollar store as job options and even those arent really job options


[21-Dec-19 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
I googled "Why do people move to rural areas" and one of the results were 
https://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/14296126/white-segregated-suburb-neighborhood-cartoon

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White America is quietly self-segregating
Everyone wants diversity. But not everyone wants it on their street.
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[21-Dec-19 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
so apparently im some scary asian guy


[21-Dec-19 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my family moved to rural north carolina because it was cheap as fuck and we;re poor


[21-Dec-19 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also pleasant scenery and a large yard for super cheap


[21-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
going to exclude "i am tired of city life and all stress, and i wanna to move to middle of nowhere and lease a cow" theory


[21-Dec-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think i could handle city life


[21-Dec-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
too many people


[21-Dec-19 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and cars


[21-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
it may also mean tempo of life


[21-Dec-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the issue with prefering rural climates is that it kills your job oportunities


[21-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
unless going "off the grid"


[21-Dec-19 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Just find a real job" They say while i gesture to the fuck loads of nothing in all directions


[21-Dec-19 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  @Эᴚ|∫  if you ever want some free land https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-farming-landrights/canadas-yukon-offers-free-land-if-youre-willing-to-farm-the-north-idUSKBN1AA27M

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Canada's Yukon offers free land if you're willing to farm the north
TORONTO (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - In Canada's far north, the governmen...
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[21-Dec-19 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
or anyone here


[21-Dec-19 10:24 PM] jlun2#8758
probably should wait for starlink to be commercially available for internet tho


[21-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
what can you grow there? Deers?


[21-Dec-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of our crops out here are cotton


[21-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does it come with visa?


[21-Dec-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i only learned ysterday we have a yarn plant in town


[21-Dec-19 10:25 PM] jlun2#8758
note: super expensive food

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[21-Dec-19 10:25 PM] jlun2#8758
that's nunavut, but applies to other northern areas


[21-Dec-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why are those grapes $28...


[21-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A small town in desert.... Has a fish farm. In desert.


[21-Dec-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're more foresty


[21-Dec-19 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
fish farm in the desert sounds risky; is it all indoors?


[21-Dec-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one nice thing is that while people still misprnounce my name, they dont treat it religiously for now


[21-Dec-19 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  remote area up north with little ways to travel except flight


[21-Dec-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i;d rather take vermont;s offer


[21-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 Yes, it is an indoor fish farm... They fulfil not only local protein demand, but also export to neigbouring regions and even countries.


[21-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At least they have 100% employment rate.


[21-Dec-19 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/vermont-will-pay-you-10000-to-move-there-and-work-from-home.html

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Vermont will pay you $10,000 to move there and work from home
"The one thing we need more of in Vermont is people."
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103060330-GettyImages-168490403.jpg?v=1529469707


[21-Dec-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know if this offer is still available


[21-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Work from home? How's internet?


[21-Dec-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no idea!


[21-Dec-19 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vermont is fucking gorgeous in terms of scenery thoug, so i wouldnt mind living there


[21-Dec-19 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i would have snow again


[21-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless devil in the details is that one have to purchase dedicated phone line. ($1000 per Mbit)


[21-Dec-19 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
if that's the case, wait for starlink, or some space internet to exist


[21-Dec-19 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
then take that offer and never use the phone line


[21-Dec-19 10:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
as far i know, "here" farmers can afford satellite phones and internet.


[21-Dec-19 10:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Farm life turns out to be quite profitable, but extremely demanding and risky.


[21-Dec-19 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
is it advanced farming like the ones I read online with tons of sensors and AI, or subsistence farming level type?


[21-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
More of classical farms, but they may use tech to little extent. I haven't heard about high tech "here"


[21-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The most dangerous enemy is draught, everything else is secondary.


[21-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Vermont offer requires you are already working a job


[21-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it just givs you gov't money to do it from Vermont.


[21-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also relatively low in numbers per year.


[21-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Pass. If it work from home, i've heard a lot that US companies prefer to let workers work at home country without going to hassle with visas.


[21-Dec-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, welp i;m out of the running then


[21-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
that's true, and also you can pay peanuts that are a huge deal elsewhere


[21-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
like, in Ukraine, if you get, let's say 1.5k $ a month. That's what, 18k a year. This is top 10% income, maybe top 5%


[21-Dec-19 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
it corresponds with cheap living, of course, although not as cheap as people would like.


[21-Dec-19 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[21-Dec-19 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow it comes from imagebaords


[21-Dec-19 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
"if dubs" thing


[21-Dec-19 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
with "dubs" in this scenario reffering to the end of the number of the message, what each post on a board gets


[21-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However, some higher positions get US salaries. That is a LOT of money, but comes with downsides.


[21-Dec-19 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
"dubs" being when it ends on two same numbers like 77


[21-Dec-19 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
nice quads


[21-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I would've understood what it meant if we were actually on an image board lol


[21-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
since there would've been something to base the term off of (the post number)


[21-Dec-19 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm reminded of this @Opponent  https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2183771/chinese-disbelief-us295-monthly-salary-makes-them-middle-class

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Report that US$295 monthly pay makes Chinese ‘middle class’ sp...
Statistics bureau gives rare official definition of ‘middle income’ that is met with ridicule online, forcing it to clarify that it applied to a specific report.
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[21-Dec-19 11:01 PM] jlun2#8758
or for more "realistic" examples 
<https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/011416/living-china-1000-month.asp>


[22-Dec-19 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
https://politicalsci.tumblr.com/post/189729771563

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politicalsci
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politicalsci
leftist politics blog
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[22-Dec-19 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
**FUN*


[22-Dec-19 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
more in the psot


[22-Dec-19 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/arjunsethi81/status/1207096478252052482

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Arjun Sethi (@arjunsethi81)
https://twitter.com/arjunsethi81/status/1207096478252052482
Every person on planet Earth should watch this video many times. These Muslim women saved their friend from near certain death at the hands of a uniformed Indian mob.

All of us should strive to be this brave. All of us should resist brutality in this way.
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[22-Dec-19 01:22 AM] illumnious#7938
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/what-rights-do-we-have-north-van-residents-frustrated-by-offender-warning-1.4739767

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'What rights do we have?' North Van residents frustrated by offend...
Residents of a North Shore housing complex are upset that the BC Corrections Service warned them about an offender living in their area who shouldn’t be around children, but won’t tell them what he’s done, nor even his name.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.4739773.1576894786!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg


[22-Dec-19 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anxiety: the regulation


[22-Dec-19 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
the fuck is the point then, I mean really


[22-Dec-19 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
literally just an anxiety generator


[22-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
ONE OF YOU IS ACTUALLY A WITCH DEMON


[22-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you aren't allowed to say which if you know.


[22-Dec-19 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also can't tell you what makes a demon a witch.


[22-Dec-19 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
- The Witch Demon, leader of anti-witch and anti-demon regulation


[22-Dec-19 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-is-what-we-call-a-clue-new-docs-show-wh-halted-ukraine-aid-less-than-two-hours-after-trumps-perfect-call/

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Jerry Lambe
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‘This Is What We Call a Clue’: New Docs Show WH Halted Ukraine...
New documents show that the White House halted military aid to Ukraine just hours after President Donald Trump’s now-infamous “perfect” July 25 phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Donald-Trump-El-Paso.jpg


[22-Dec-19 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The call clearly had him ask Zelensky to investigate Biden


[22-Dec-19 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/jeffrey-epstein/turns-out-jeffrey-epstein-suicide-attempt-video-isnt-missing-after-all/

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Turns Out Jeffrey Epstein Suicide Attempt Video Isn’t Missing Af...
Prosecutors in New York City now say they've been able to locate previously lost surveillance footage from outside of dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's cell on the night of his first suicide attempt at the Manhattan Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC).
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein.jpg


[22-Dec-19 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
:pancake:


[22-Dec-19 05:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1208587342879047681?s=20

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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[22-Dec-19 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/658096079182757919/b44anh5fj0641.png

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[22-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Macarou#9574
I don't know why, but that large explosion of red at Non Hispanic White just amuses me.


[22-Dec-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
sweet home alabama


[22-Dec-19 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
where your sister's fuckin' you


[22-Dec-19 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then there's wyoming


[22-Dec-19 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what is going on there


[22-Dec-19 07:03 AM] Opponent#3498
well, PoCs seem well-managed.


[22-Dec-19 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons, @WingbeatPony


[22-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're marginally less racist than other church groups, but extremely homophobic etc.


[22-Dec-19 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's probably why Hispanics in Wyoming seem to be pro-Trump.


[22-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/in-the-2010s-decade-we-became-alienated-by-technology?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Alienated, Alone And Angry: What the Digital Revolution Really Did...
We were promised community, civics, and convenience. Instead, we found ourselves dislocated, distrustful, and disengaged.
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[22-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect Utah just has like no hispanics around, as well.


[22-Dec-19 07:43 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/millennials-burnout-generation-debt-work

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How Millennials Became The Burnout Generation
I couldn’t figure out why small, straightforward tasks on my to-do list felt so impossible. The answer is both more complex and far simpler than I expected.
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[22-Dec-19 08:36 AM] Treascair#7785
re: Utah:  Depends where you are.  Much like California outside of LA and SF, Washington outside of Seattle and Tacoma, etc., if you're outside of SLC or the surrounding suburbs, it's pretty terrifying as a democrat/non-white/LGBTQIA person.


[22-Dec-19 08:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Macarou  i live under a rock and dont remember any promises except porn and video games for said digital revolution


[22-Dec-19 08:56 AM] Macarou#9574
I wasn't born during the "Digital Revolution" I was born the August right before 9/11. I live after the "Revolution".


[22-Dec-19 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing i was told about this digital revolution is that i would have better access to information, and so far thats not far off


[22-Dec-19 10:06 AM] Macarou#9574
I was told nothing of the digital revolution, no one around me seemed to care


[22-Dec-19 10:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iwas born in 1990, though it wasnt mentioned much to me either as a child


[22-Dec-19 10:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was born at just the right time to not be old enough to adapt to learning computer skills, woo


[22-Dec-19 10:09 AM] Macarou#9574
No one around me seemed to care about much of anything really, I'm quite sure my interest in studying academic and political topics was an accident, a fluke.


[22-Dec-19 10:09 AM] Macarou#9574
No one encouraged me to these studies, nor discouraged, there was just, nothing, just one day, in middle school, I just went all into academics


[22-Dec-19 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Dec-19 10:27 AM] Macarou#9574
I wish I could say I was shocked, but, no, can't say I am


[22-Dec-19 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[22-Dec-19 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[22-Dec-19 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that said it hink i;m just going to vote even mroe left thna i was already going to vote because fuck trying not to go too far left, that new rhetoric is fucking stupid


[22-Dec-19 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But if we go too left we'll scare off the moderates"


[22-Dec-19 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fuck is too left, all i;m hearing is "LEAVE MONEY ALONE! WHY ARE YOU THREATENING THESE POOR DEFENSLESS CORPORATIONS THROWING MONEY AT ME!?"


[22-Dec-19 10:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we arent even center left yet


[22-Dec-19 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/20/iowa-woman-hit-hispanic-teenager-with-car-because-race-police/2709624001/

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Iowa woman admits she hit 14-year-old with SUV because the girl 'i...
Nicole Franklin is charged with attempted murder for running down a 14-year-old as she walked to school. Police are considering hate crime charges.
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[22-Dec-19 02:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/C4DpFjA.png

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Both Sides you guys! both sides are the problem.
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[22-Dec-19 03:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/658102031252193300
Space Station 13 IRL


[22-Dec-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wine-cave-owner-responds-buttigieg-warren-debate-wealthy-donors-2019-12

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The billionaire owner of the glitzy wine cave that Pete Buttigieg ...
Elizabeth Warren says 'billionaires in wine caves should not pick the next president.' The owner of the wine cave finds that sentiment unfair.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5dfe7168855cc2728e0426e5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Dec-19 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww poor baby wine cave owner


[22-Dec-19 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
m8, should have just picked a random hotel conference hall


[22-Dec-19 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyone should've been able to see that that place would be bad optics


[22-Dec-19 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(well, for the supposed Democrats, the GOP are probably confused about this whole thing; opulence = hard-earned success!)


[22-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[22-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
:notch:


[22-Dec-19 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
if trump ever leaves, I wonder what would happen if the GOP nominated an openly gay candidate for prez


[22-Dec-19 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
would the party just completely implode


[22-Dec-19 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
or would they rally the candidate


[22-Dec-19 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would implode in amajority while a minority stands behind thw candidate


[22-Dec-19 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
said minority would swiftly get stabbed in the face by themajority while they eat eachother alive trying to replace the nominated candidate with soemone who fits the now imploding image


[22-Dec-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
or


[22-Dec-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
a gay black woman


[22-Dec-19 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
💥


[22-Dec-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point the requirement to become a gop candidate is being 80's villain movie levels of corrupt with the intention of basically dismantling the country and shooting everyone inside


[22-Dec-19 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but not before draining their bank accounts


[22-Dec-19 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Have you seen the heritage foundation's presidential mandate list?


[22-Dec-19 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's basically a to-do list on how to become Lex Luthor


[22-Dec-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, it;s basically a checklist for the south will rise again


[22-Dec-19 04:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and Trump achieved a majority of it in his first *year* in office


[22-Dec-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Dec-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most republicans right now are operating off that list


[22-Dec-19 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the basic idea of the list is to bring america back to the 1800's


[22-Dec-19 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but with bigger corporations


[22-Dec-19 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a bigger more unsustainable population


[22-Dec-19 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a collapsing economy based entirely on unpaid labor


[22-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and fire, so much fire


[22-Dec-19 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne all the rich people elave anyway because they ate all the resources, so they move onto whatever place has mroe resources next while leaving the population of their dried husk of a country behind


[22-Dec-19 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably europe


[22-Dec-19 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://politics.theonion.com/prominent-evangelical-magazine-calls-for-removing-trump-1840559882

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Prominent Evangelical Magazine Calls For Removing Trump From Holy ...
CAROL STREAM, IL—In a scathing opinion piece published Thursday by Christianity Today, the evangelical magazine’s editor-in-chief Mark Galli made the case for President Trump’s removal from the Holy Trinity. “The president has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the...
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[22-Dec-19 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
> CAROL STREAM, IL—In a scathing opinion piece published Thursday by Christianity Today, the evangelical magazine’s editor-in-chief Mark Galli made the case for President Trump’s removal from the Holy Trinity. “The president has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the ethical convictions necessary for us to continue worshipping him as a part of the triune God,” said Galli, explaining that when Trump was seated at the right hand of the Father, many Christians assumed his behavior would by extension be righteous and godly, but this has not been the case.


[22-Dec-19 05:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you missed the part where Trump responded by calling Christianity today (or "ET") as he put it, a very liberal publication

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[22-Dec-19 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I didn't miss that


[22-Dec-19 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
This is the onion


[22-Dec-19 05:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://outline.com/hmHtdH

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Opinion | Trump’s rage at Christianity Today gives away his scam
A public battle with an Evangelical magazine unmasks Trump's corruption.


[22-Dec-19 05:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
still, the onion's having a hard time keeping up with reality


[22-Dec-19 05:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially not when he got compared to Jesus more than a couple times during the vote


[22-Dec-19 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony https://i.redd.it/aphe1bsaql541.jpg

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[22-Dec-19 06:02 PM] Opponent#3498
'make stupid people feel smart'


[22-Dec-19 06:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait what, Shapiro didn't say something stupid?


[22-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
he's trying to sound profound here.


[22-Dec-19 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta shake things up.


[22-Dec-19 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/22/trump-judges-9th-circuit-appeals-court-088833

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How Trump is filling the liberal 9th Circuit with conservatives
The court's changing ideological makeup could wind up giving states like California less legal elbow room to challenge Trump policies.
https://static.politico.com/1b/4c/7018b40e402eadfbd4c8729d8e6d/191220-9th-circuit-court-getty-773.jpg


[22-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion really is a treat these last few years https://politics.theonion.com/well-spoken-my-good-fellow-but-let-me-retort-says-1840399399

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‘Well Spoken, My Good Fellow, But Let Me Retort,’ Says Congres...
WASHINGTON—Praising the eloquence and noble character of his Democratic colleague before humbly offering a rebuttal, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) engaged in thoughtful and enlightened debate Thursday over the merits of proposed impeachment articles brought against the president o...
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[22-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/fox-news-condemns-2020-election-as-partisan-witch-hunt-1840395457

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Fox News Condemns 2020 Election As Partisan Witch Hunt Orchestrate...
NEW YORK—Calling the running and nomination of a candidate a blatant abuse of power from the left, Fox News personality Tucker Carlson condemned the 2020 election Thursday as a partisan witch hunt orchestrated by Democrats to unseat President Trump. “This is nothing more ...
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[22-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://politics.theonion.com/boris-johnson-worried-anti-semitism-accusations-against-1840242337

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Boris Johnson Worried Anti-Semitism Accusations Against Labour Par...
LONDON—Monitoring polls and news coverage of the upcoming elections, U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson reportedly expressed concern Thursday that continued accusations of anti-Semitism against the Labour Party will hurt the Tories’ hold on the bigot vote. “Those with pr...
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[22-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/658383840372588547/126b92433f355805dcbf1cace00ba4a656c0185c.png

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[22-Dec-19 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/grandfather-didnt-die-ww2-say-happy-holidays-died-nazi-germany/

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My Grandfather Didn't Die in WWII for You to Say "Happy Holidays."...
He wanted a very different greeting from cashiers.
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[22-Dec-19 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/gop-turns-dozens-of-house-democrats-away-from-impeachme-1840517918

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GOP Turns Dozens Of House Democrats Away From Impeachment For Fail...
WASHINGTON—Warning that allowing them to vote without proper documentation would undermine the sanctity of the democratic process, the House GOP turned away dozens of Democrats from impeaching President Donald Trump Wednesday after determining they did not have adequate vot...
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[22-Dec-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/right-wing-militias-organizing-armed-gathering-in-virginia-with-threat-of-civil-war-extremism-researcher/#.Xf5M1M06XK4.facebook

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Right-wing militias organizing ‘armed gathering’ in Virginia ...
Armed right-wing militias are organizing a dangerous rally in Richmond, Virginia, an extremism researcher warned on Friday. Emily Gorcenski was pepper-sprayed by Christopher Cantwell — known as the “Crying Nazi” — at the fatal 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charl...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/antimuslims.jpg


[22-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
```“Many of the same militant organizations are planning an armed gathering in Richmond, VA to protest, with threat of civil war, proposed gun control bills in the Virginia Legislature,” she explained.```


[22-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
people really shouldn't have gone full on AWB on steroids.


[22-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the worst decision to do right now.


[22-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
but, now they get to reap the benefits.


[22-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and everyone who disagrees with it is a 'dangerous right-wing militia terrorist nazi'.


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or maybe, a bunch of wakkos threatening a civil war should be ignored, and imprisoned if they pull shit.


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
it's more than a bunch of whackos.


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a popular sentiment.


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
not many are willling to actually 'gather' and put their name on record, but it's a popular sentiment.


[22-Dec-19 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people threatening civil war over a gun control law tend to count as terrorists


[22-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
well, in US everyone counts as terrorist.


[22-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
much like Russia, really.


[22-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
extremism, terrorism.


[22-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
convenient.


[22-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
well, regardless, you people have fun with it.


[22-Dec-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rational people dont gather their stock of guns and parade through a city threatening civil war


[22-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
rational people don't go AWB on steroids amid extreme partitioning of the country, when there's neoliberalism to fix.


[22-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing about this is rational.


[22-Dec-19 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
awb?


[22-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
assault weapons ban


[22-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
the 90ies thing.


[22-Dec-19 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes because normal citizens totally needed those dozen rounds a second gun types


[22-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
good thing civilians generally cannot own those.


[22-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
we've been there.


[22-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
I know you and Nebbie support gun control. And I'm not arrogant enough to presume to change your minds, so I won't harp on about it too much.


[22-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yeah. This is a thing now.


[22-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
lets leave it at that.


[22-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/KostaVagenas/status/1208807785762316289

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kosta 🏴🚩 (@KostaVagenas)
https://twitter.com/KostaVagenas/status/1208807785762316289
BERNIE NO
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Twitter


[22-Dec-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
BEN


[22-Dec-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
HE HAS THE FEET PICS


[22-Dec-19 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
BEN YOU HAVE TO TALK TO HIM


[22-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's too late.


[22-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ben drowned.


[22-Dec-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/battle-lines-harden-over-trump-impeachment-trial-witnesses-idUSKBN1YQ0I6

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/battle-lines-harden-over-trump-impeachment-trial-witnesses-idUSKBN1YQ0I6
Battle lines harden over Trump impeachment trial witnesses
The White House on Sunday signaled comfort with plans by Senate Republicans to a...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191222&t=2&i=1467272647&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFBL0IH


[22-Dec-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/clashes-as-police-try-to-clear-hong-kong-protesters-after-uighur-support-rally-idUSKBN1YQ076

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/clashes-as-police-try-to-clear-hong-kong-protesters-after-uighur-support-rally-idUSKBN1YQ076
Clashes as police try to clear Hong Kong protesters after Uighur s...
Hong Kong riot police pepper sprayed protesters to disperse crowds in the heart ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191222&t=2&i=1467198814&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFBL09W


[22-Dec-19 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Hong Kong riot police pepper sprayed protesters to disperse crowds in the heart of the city’s financial district on Sunday after a largely peaceful rally in support of China’s ethnic Uighurs turned chaotic.


[22-Dec-19 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Dozens of police marched across a public square overlooking Hong Kong’s harbor to face off with protesters who hurled glass bottles and rocks at them.

Earlier in the afternoon more than 1,000 people had rallied calmly, waving Uighur flags and posters, as they took part in the latest demonstration in over six months of unrest.

A mixed crowd of young and elderly people, dressed in black and wearing masks to shield their identities, held up signs reading “Free Uyghur, Free Hong Kong” and “Fake ‘autonomy’ in China results in genocide”.


[22-Dec-19 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 those people in the pic look quite young. pretty sure young ppl are infamous for posting edgy shit online and never doing anything about it irl


[22-Dec-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
depends on the community


[22-Dec-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given the camo, sunglasses, and clone beard, i;d say they;re hunters, which likely means they are totally serious


[22-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
it's also a photo entirely unrelated to the article.


[22-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
with a telling name.


[22-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/antimuslims.jpg

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https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/antimuslims.jpg
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/antimuslims.jpg


[23-Dec-19 12:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazil-president-homophobic-jair-bolsonaro-face-homosexual-flavio-corruption-a9256121.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazil-president-homophobic-jair-bolsonaro-face-homosexual-flavio-corruption-a9256121.html
‘You have a terribly homosexual face’: Brazil’s president la...
Jair Bolsonaro lashes out after properties linked to family raided by prosecutors in money laundering probe
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/12/21/12/jair-bolsonaro.png


[23-Dec-19 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Ur accusations of me being corrupt dont matter cuz u look gay LMAO GOT EEM"


[23-Dec-19 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
he used his funds to buy gay porn didnt he


[23-Dec-19 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds plausible


[23-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
gay prostitutes*


[23-Dec-19 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably starred in a gay porn as a teenager


[23-Dec-19 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well he did admit to committing bestiality as a young farm boy so that wouldn't be a stretch


[23-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, what's wrong with the photo exactly? they're white, anti-gun control extremists who can't hold their rifles correctly


[23-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
it being entirely unrelated to the topic.


[23-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
and 4 years old.


[23-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
but it's not unrelated, it's literally the same type of people


[23-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Opponent#3498
every dangerous right-wing nazi domestic terrorist is the same as any other right?


[23-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
first of all, that's not the point and you know it


[23-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
when rep publications do these kinda things you guys reeeee something fierce.


[23-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
no, when PEOPLE do these kinda things "us guys" reeeee something fierce


[23-Dec-19 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent  i see everyone as basically the same regardless


[23-Dec-19 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
me vs not me


[23-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
now who's generalizing?


[23-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
so why don't you reee this time?


[23-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
what do you mean by "reee"


[23-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
complain that people use manipulation and fear-mongering.


[23-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
but anyway, it's pretty telling that the only groups going around carrying guns to threaten people happen to be republicans


[23-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left isn't using fearmongering


[23-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the left wants to take your guns away


[23-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and people respond with WE WILL ALL SHOOT YOU


[23-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the left that's using the tactic of instilling fear in political opponents.


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
fearmongering is literally the name of the game for this article.


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instilling fear takes two forms:
1) Making threats
2) Pointing to potential threats


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well, this is 2) easily.


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
DANGEROUNS NAZI RIGHT WING MILITIA


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there's a problem with that


[23-Dec-19 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Simply reporting on threats is not in and of itself problematic


[23-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to be drawing excess attention to them, or overstating their significance.


[23-Dec-19 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
If simply talking at all about threats is what you consider to be bad behavior, then well, fukk you, I guess.


[23-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that stance seems deliberately crafted to giv power to the ones making the threats.


[23-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
what counts as excess attention then? These articles keep popping up over and over.


[23-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
seems like there's no definition, so whatever the specific person considers so


[23-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the same site, about the same thing, or in some overblown fashion?


[23-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your claim is highly dubious


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
what counts as 'overblown fashion'?


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
you simultaneously claim there is a bigger threat than the article is stating


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that there is some manner that the article is going about things wrong, or that the news site is.


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of these measures are subjective, yes, but I don't think you hav real evidence here.


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What other articles are there?


[23-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is this article problematic in and of itself if there are none?


[23-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, you are the one making a claim; two claims, in fact.


[23-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
the article is using fear-mongering language, fake images to reinforce said message, I guarantee I'll find this or similar articles filling 4 pages of google, but I haven't tried yet. It's simply indicative of a problem.


[23-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, I'm making the claim then


[23-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I see what this is.


[23-Dec-19 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget your "I guarantee", put up or shut up on that claim.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
so how should I google this lefty shit then?


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So your claim is this article is using language and false images to overstate the threat?


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
'dangerous right wing militia gun control'?


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
wouldn't want to get things wrong.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know, that's on you.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the claim you made.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
oh but you're gonna judge it.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
if anyone knows, it's you.


[23-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes I'm going to fukking judge it, MAKE YOUR CLAIM


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
well, no.


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
'fukk' you, hon.


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, your other claim


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem, you say?


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Armed right-wing militias are organizing a dangerous rally in Richmond, Virginia, an extremism researcher warned on Friday."


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
you'll shift goalposts and waffle around like you usually do.


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...which of these words is problematic? Just 'dengerous'?


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is 'militias' or 'armed' problematic?


[23-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
you know what's funny Nebbie?


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm reading these articles and I'm strongly reminded about 'IMMIGRANT CARAVAN APPROACHNG FROM MEXICO'


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
for 3 months straight


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
over and over.


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
this is THAT. Onyl from the left. Same words, same tactics.


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
same people defending it.


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact there was a caravan approaching is not in and of itself fearmongering.


[23-Dec-19 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fearmongering would be involved if the number was overstated, or if the article was calling out as unusual something that really wasn't, etc.


[23-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sure, strawman me.


[23-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
language used


[23-Dec-19 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
'deseased immigrants are bringing plague to your doorstep' wibe


[23-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not remember any articles on the subject being that extreme.


[23-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
At worst, they were vaguely dogwhistling.


[23-Dec-19 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well I've seen how people reacted to it. There's always more to it than what's stated as fact.


[23-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what dog-whistling is about.


[23-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Implications matter.


[23-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not seeing much in this article that supports it being fearmongering.


[23-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It uses the word 'dangerous' early in, but otherwise just seems to be about a guy saying that armed protests are a bad idea and the groups involved are linked to domestic terror.


[23-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also do not think it is problematic if every news outlet runs a similar story, provided they are not copying directly from each other.


[23-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems to be newsworthy mainly considering the recent outing of a Washington state rep as part of a terror group.


[23-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
it's not even just this one rep, he's been connected to a bunch of republican state reps across the country


[23-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as the large amount of controversy over the new gun legislation (note, even the guy saying the protests are a bad idea explicitly disagrees with some of the legislation)


[23-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
though none of them have explicitly been outed as being overt terror group members


[23-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/20/matt-shea-domestic-terrorism-washington-state-report>


[23-Dec-19 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
this article that I linked yesterday


[23-Dec-19 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's likely that this militia gathering in virginia is being coordinated by the same network


[23-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
> On the first day of the occupation, Shea circulated a “military style operations plan”, codenamed “Operation Cold Reality”, via encrypted email to Cows members. They included the Idaho state representative Heather Scott, the Nevada assemblywoman Michele Fiore, Shea associates Anthony Bosworth and Jack Robertson, and Anne Byrd, whose husband, Barry, is the pastor for the secretive, patriot movement-aligned Marble community church in Stevens county, Washington.


[23-Dec-19 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/cats-director-says-movie-is-political-about-perils-of-tribalism-2019-12

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The director of 'Cats' says the movie has a political message abou...
Tom Hooper said the movie mirrors the current political climate in the US and UK, where it has become harder for "acts of kindness across the divide."
https://image.businessinsider.com/5dfa4668acb8fb7dba31a3d4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Dec-19 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
The virgin "Bridging the divide" vs the Chad "Why Does the Divide Exist"


[23-Dec-19 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/04/what-cruelty-looks-trump-finalizes-plan-strip-food-aid-750000-low-income-people-2020

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'What Cruelty Looks Like': Trump Finalizes Plan to Strip Food Aid ...
"When it came to tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, Trump felt the nation's finances were firm enough to give up more than $1,500,000,000,000. When it's time to spend a fraction of that to help poor people eat, that's when the well has supposedly run dry."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/trump_food_stamps_1.jpg


[23-Dec-19 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/budget/475487-trump-signs-14-t-spending-package-averting-shutdown

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Trump signs $1.4 trillion spending package, averting shutdown
President Trump on Friday signed two spending packages totaling $1.4 trillion, averting a government shutdown at midnight.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mreporttrump_7.jpg


[23-Dec-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I kinda wish he had let it lapse


[23-Dec-19 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
not because I hate federal employees or watching them suffer


[23-Dec-19 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
but because it would basically political suicide to do it again


[23-Dec-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, his base is too far gone.


[23-Dec-19 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents will see the Ukraine thing burn, that's enuff.


[23-Dec-19 02:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  I wonder does being pro-trump have any negative effect on evanglical groups given how non-christian trump is, or nah that just makes it more attractive to stay/become one?


[23-Dec-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is for sure hurting them.


[23-Dec-19 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 has reported on the growing secular/religious divide in politics


[23-Dec-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, only hardcore Christian fundamentalist assholes stay in the Republican party


[23-Dec-19 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
atheists take one look, see the Republican party bending over bakkwards to giv religious groups a leg up against rule of law, and run to Democrats


[23-Dec-19 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
oh yea, and before i forget, 
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121
ew wtf

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Trump, QAnon and an impending judgment day: Behind the Facebook-fu...
Started almost two decades ago with a stated mission to “provide information to Chinese communities to help immigrants assimilate into American society,” The Epoch Times now wields one of the biggest social media followings of any news outlet.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_29/2935996/190716-epoch-times-main-kh_c9ef1f3d4197658c3e8a791c408687d6.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[23-Dec-19 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  hmm ok


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, religion is seen as just a tax-free Republican lobby


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are seen as the party of church in state


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad for both


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] jlun2#8758
bad for both?


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many religious people don't like Republican policies, and many moderates don't like religious pandering.


[23-Dec-19 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[23-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means if you dislike one, you must dislike both


[23-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats by being relatively neutral on most matters don't drive people away.


[23-Dec-19 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the wedge issue I hear about a lot from evangelicals is abortion


[23-Dec-19 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, it's mostly abortion and gay rights.


[23-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, a lot of religious people are okay with abortion, or at least gay rights


[23-Dec-19 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
TIL


[23-Dec-19 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get driven away by the church going full bigot


[23-Dec-19 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what protestants were made for I suppose


[23-Dec-19 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've always seen people who turned away from church/religion because the preacher was being political on the pulpit


[23-Dec-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if that actually makes others _more_ likely to stay


[23-Dec-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, that's the trouble.


[23-Dec-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Organized religion is based around the idea of BEING the government.


[23-Dec-19 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The fuck happened to "render unto Caesar"


[23-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing but an excuse.


[23-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Appease the actual gov't while plotting to overthrow it.


[23-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So in one of my exams there was what is called a "policy" question where there's no real wrong answer, you just take a stance and explain it using the law


[23-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hypo was that the state of Montana refused to give out private school vouchers for religious schools and it was going to SCOTUS and you had to say how the court should decide


[23-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Establishment clause.


[23-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who rules this isn't okay is wrong.


[23-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wrote this long paragraph about how not only shouldn't it be okay but also that like, cities shouldn't put up Christmas decorations


[23-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
yeah


[23-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
On Christmas decorations, cities should be able to put up only the nonreligious stuff


[23-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also mentioned how like, swearing an oath on a holy book is basically a personal thing that connects you to your job and not anything that is required


[23-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No angels etc.


[23-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Festivus poles next to the wreaths? Fine.


[23-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course one of the religious arguments I had to counteract was like "Oh, churches can't get any funding from the state? Guess they can't dump their waste into municipal sewers"


[23-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is a dumb "parade of horribles" argument


[23-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, allowing them to use sewers would be benefitting them financially?


[23-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess? It's benefitting them in some way?


[23-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's pretty clear churches shouldn't be given special treatment in either direction.


[23-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The recent cases around this were like


[23-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Government providing maintenance for a WWI peace cross monument


[23-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Preventing them using the sewers violates the Establishment Clause just like giving them all free sewer access and nobody else such does.


[23-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which was fine basically because "it's old and no one complained"


[23-Dec-19 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbf, there is a strong legal deference for "don't uproot the foundation of the city"


[23-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The voucher issue has already been decided IIRC, and there was another one to make school playgrounds safe and religious schools didn't get it or something


[23-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, all of these cases are resolved in favor of the church every time


[23-Dec-19 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind, and this is one of the reasons why I think he is an absurd jurist


[23-Dec-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas doesn't think that there's anything preventing a _state_ from establishing religion


[23-Dec-19 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Vermont could say tomorrow "Our official state religion is Judaism" and he would be fine with it


[23-Dec-19 02:25 AM] jlun2#8758
i still have no idea if republicans or pro or anti judaism


[23-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
anti


[23-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're pro Israel stomping Arabs


[23-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Judaism replaced with Christianity.


[23-Dec-19 02:26 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[23-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like "okay you can be that religion for now, but form a state far away, smite these people we hate more, and then we'll exterminate you last"


[23-Dec-19 02:29 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1208818029578137602?s=20

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[23-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare the FBI do something with its powers granted by Congress


[23-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only criminals hired by the president are supposed to do that.


[23-Dec-19 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
perhaps McCarthy missed the part where the only operatives working in relation the Trump campaign were already there investigating potential wrongdoing by two guys who are not Donald Trump, and when the operation to investigate his campaign began, no one broke in, wiretapped, or inserted themselves in the campaign.


[23-Dec-19 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh and guess what those two other guys ended up getting in trouble because they were in fact doing illegal things


[23-Dec-19 02:38 AM] illumnious#7938
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The Democrats and Crooked Hillary paid for & provided a Fake Dossier, with phony information gotten from foreign sources, pushed it to the corrupt media & Dirty Cops, & have now been caught. They spied on my campaign, then tried to cover it up - Just Like Watergate, but bi...
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[23-Dec-19 02:39 AM] illumnious#7938
what a baby


[23-Dec-19 02:58 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/17/21011079/senate-bias-2020-data-for-progress?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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[23-Dec-19 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
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[23-Dec-19 04:03 AM] illumnious#7938
WTF https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-repeats-attacks-on-windmills-saying-they-are-noisy-and-kill-the-birds/?utm_source=push_notifications

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President Donald Trump repeated one of his more infamous claims during a speech on Saturday to the Turning Point USA conference in West Palm Beach, Fla. — namely, that windmills are a major problem in the United States. “They are noisy. They kill the birds,” Mr. Trump ...
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[23-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
aah, where has the time gone where you resorted to caricatures and satire to make politicians look bad.


[23-Dec-19 04:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/nancy-pelosi-turns-up-the-heat-on-trump-and-the-republicans-and-its-working/?utm_source=push_notifications

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For all the hand-wringing I and many others have done over the past couple of months over the House leadership’s impeachment strategy, its implementation went very smoothly. Traditionally, Democrats have always had a rather large contingent of right-leaning members who inev...
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[23-Dec-19 05:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How did the Americans got friendly to Filipinos?


[23-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well eventually people giv up on rebellions


[23-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
after a million hav starved of famine etc.


[23-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also being part of the US was the only way to keep other empires from coming in to claim them.


[23-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the US stopped caring after WWII and just let the country go.


[23-Dec-19 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Sev3617#4685
Lmao


[23-Dec-19 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again I would like to reiterate how awful attacks on the intelligence community and government workers are


[23-Dec-19 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
15 years from now we will be like "how did *insert major terrorist attack in a large American city here* happen?" and we will have Trump family defenders even then who ignore what Trump did in his term(s)


[23-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
9/11 happened at least partially because we had the _genius_ idea of "hey let's let our intelligence community run fucking counterintelligence on each other to ruin their efficiency under the guise of competition"


[23-Dec-19 07:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn understand that between government agencies, you;d think you would want thme working together instead of against eachother out of spiteful competitiveness


[23-Dec-19 07:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same goes for firemen and police departments


[23-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Opponent#3498
you'd think you want law enforcement to do their job instead of working the statistics. Many things like these could be better, but aren't... And are unlikely to ever be, as long as there's any variable in the system at all, like funding.


[23-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is lakk of coordination, and this whole idea of competition improving governance.


[23-Dec-19 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Competition doesn't improve things when you're in separate areas.


[23-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay I get friendly competition haha nice compete for Christmas party stats


[23-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The CIA would put agents in the FBI to undermine their work and vice versa


[23-Dec-19 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's fucking insanity


[23-Dec-19 08:12 AM] N30#0774
Well that's just more the *intelligence* community


[23-Dec-19 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like we've surely got enough trying to find double agents or something without that being a thing


[23-Dec-19 08:14 AM] N30#0774
Other govt agencies are bad enough, but the intelligence community (surprisingly not just in terms of the US) is just one big pissing match


[23-Dec-19 09:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50876429

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[23-Dec-19 09:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cant we just have space be a peaceful endeavor for once?


[23-Dec-19 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not according to conservatives.


[23-Dec-19 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
16,000 people sitting around watching for if China tries to hit our satellites with missiles at random, without any possible way of stopping it.


[23-Dec-19 11:14 AM] Opponent#3498
money well-spent.


[23-Dec-19 01:09 PM] Macarou#9574
https://newrepublic.com/article/155962/liberalism-at-large-book-review-the-economist-magazine?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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The World The Economist Made
How a 170-year-old magazine has struggled to uphold liberal capitalism.
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[23-Dec-19 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
> That financial panic produced both the Chartists, a primarily working-class movement for universal male suffrage


[23-Dec-19 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody even remembers that before women suffrage and other stuff there was this :P


[23-Dec-19 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
history is whatever works at the time...


[23-Dec-19 02:52 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.  ``` Still, if The Economist, the great barometer of capitalist thinking, can scoff at such sentiments, then it would seem that capitalism is not as imperiled as some might think.```


[23-Dec-19 02:52 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing much is changing, no matter how bad it looks.


[23-Dec-19 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
something changed after 1918, when the population at large was united, hardened by WW1 and either armed or ready to be at a moment's notice. Now, it's layers of atomisation and sharp divide, UK is the land of showering permits, and in US any notion of armed gathering is treated as domestic terrorism.


[23-Dec-19 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
(and surveliance and propaganda methods got that much better)


[23-Dec-19 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
RIP.


[23-Dec-19 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the most bizzare thing with that statement is that it implies that armed gatherings happen casually with no intention of using the arms for intimidation.


[23-Dec-19 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the whole point of an "armed gathering" is that it;s a group of people with guns there to intimidate the people they;re against into gettign what they want


[23-Dec-19 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, no doubt. And now it's part of the problem, as they're trying to intimidate some other part of the population. The government laughs at the pathetic cattle clutching their boomsticks, they haven't cared for a looong time, it clearly would not intimidate them and everyone involved knows it, deep inside if nothing else.


[23-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
these things all play off each other. There can be no unity, because many reasons over the last century.


[23-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
right to bear arms is meaningless because it brings no real security.


[23-Dec-19 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and so on.


[23-Dec-19 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and the best thing is, there is no reasonable way out of this. Gun control will increase tensions and push people to activity, but that activity will only bring sharper divide. And similar scenarios will play out in every other aspect, because divide has been crafted by, and is primarily beneficial for, the capital and ruling elites (with enough overlap to be one and the same).


[23-Dec-19 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
like, w/e, Nebbie will wake up and post 3000 words on why I'm wrong with this, but...


[23-Dec-19 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't matter. None of us have, ever had or ever will have any impact at all on what's going on around us. This myth of democracy bringing power to the people... The votes are like selling Steam games for 0.66$. The individual purchase literally never matters. And, specifically in US, the majority of both sides are so set in red/blue they too never matter, if for a different reason.


[23-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
cause the whole purpose of democracy is individual assessment and benefit of majority... Cut the assessment out, or target the information right, the process dies quietly in it's sleep, leaving a good-looking corpse.


[23-Dec-19 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
w/e. Politics is entertainment for an idle mind.


[23-Dec-19 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498

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[23-Dec-19 04:32 PM] ononim#8141
second half of december and no snow


[23-Dec-19 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
14 C over here at night. Climate is fine, promises~~


[23-Dec-19 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
I lost count of winters we had recently what had this fuckery, plus the utter cold we had in the middle of this summer when trees started going yellow


[23-Dec-19 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
but of course, climate change is just a hoax by (((them))) or a lib hysteria


[23-Dec-19 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no snow here either and it feels more liek mid october


[23-Dec-19 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a brown ass christmas


[23-Dec-19 04:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Brown ass* christmas?


[23-Dec-19 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[23-Dec-19 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
whiny crybabies need a safe space https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/oxbow-christmas-concert-controversy-1.5406381


[23-Dec-19 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
> A Saskatchewan school division has apologized after parents raised concerns a Christmas concert last week had an anti-oil agenda


[23-Dec-19 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[23-Dec-19 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd pay money for someone of those parents to explain to me how that works.


[23-Dec-19 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, santa is wearing green instead of red! the eco laiden horror!


[23-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
...oh, so that's what it about.


[23-Dec-19 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
cue crushing disappointment.


[23-Dec-19 06:44 PM] illumnious#7938
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[23-Dec-19 06:47 PM] illumnious#7938

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[23-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
>do essentially the longest impeachment in history


[23-Dec-19 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
>get complaints you are rushing it.


[23-Dec-19 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737-max-ceo/boeing-ditches-ceo-muilenburg-in-bid-to-contain-737-max-crisis-idUSKBN1YR1FL

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Boeing ditches CEO Muilenburg in bid to contain 737 MAX crisis
Boeing Co has fired its Chief Executive Dennis Muilenburg, seeking to restore co...
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[23-Dec-19 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we sacrifice this CEO to the business gods, maybe they will heave mercy upon us and save our stocks in time for christmas"


[23-Dec-19 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s going to be a week and they'll still have horrible press after another of their planes fucks it


[23-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fukking arrogance


[23-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think if they just get rid of the one guy at the top all is forgiven.


[23-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Replace EVERYONE in a position of power at Boeing


[23-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and make sure they NEVER get employed at companies that make vehicles again.


[23-Dec-19 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bad press doesnt just stop because you fired one fucker, there needs to be a complete top brass wipe for boeings reputation to shift


[23-Dec-19 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then, it;s going to take years for people to trust you again, because no one is going to want to fly in your shitty unsafe planes


[23-Dec-19 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also "Muilenburg, an engineer who started at Boeing as an intern in 1985, fought a rising tide of public and regulatory scrutiny to try to steady the company during the crisis."


[23-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking disgusting.


[23-Dec-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh wow he struggled against people asking him to be responsible?


[23-Dec-19 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How brave!


[23-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
ZERO EMISSIONS since like six months ago i guess i don't fuckin' know :shrugpony:


[23-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
(the joke is they're grounded)


[23-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ohhhhh


[23-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't pollute when you're not allowed to fly for safety reasons.


[23-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who would have guessed that a poorly designed airplane that uses poorly designed software to compensate and has safety features as DLC would have problems


[23-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC the center of gravity on the engines is way fucked up, supposed to be a fuel saving measure by putting them way far forward


[23-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they wrote software to fix the issues that came with that that didn't really work


[23-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And one of the warning systems that would scream "hey this isn't working anymore do something" is DLC

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[23-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know the really messed up thing about this?


[23-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav the hardware/software capability to make planes **completely** automated.


[23-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
All of that included.


[23-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
This problem exists because Boeing decided that the pilots are the ones who need to deal with this issue, but the warning light to tell them should be a paid feature.


[23-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not "we need pilots because the software can't handle it, but eh, we don't need to explicitly tell them"


[23-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's "it's cheaper to not make the software able to handle this, and gets us more money if we charge them to be told about it"


[23-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's like


[23-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Homer Simpson


[23-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nuclear plant where he can be replaced mostly by a little toy hitting a key repeatedly.


[23-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is late stage capitalism.


[23-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav the means to make a safe airplane, but that would eat profits.


[23-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Better to shift the burden of safety onto pilots, and then leave out the tools for them to succeed.


[23-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you consider the 1970's late stage


[23-Dec-19 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way, you can blame them in the media when things go wrong.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, this shit started in the 80s.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because one of the worst airplane accidents in US history happened because of trying to save money


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 70s saw actual punishment.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hallmark of late stage is that this is usually REWARDED.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boeing barely lost this time.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are dealing with a company that tried to use pilots as scapegoats for making an unsafe vehicle.


[23-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That WAS THEIR GOAL HERE


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah that's always the goal


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah honestly that sounds logical from the twisted pov of a corporation's interests


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their goal was that crashes would happen and pilots would hav their lives ruined for not being gud enuff.


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Are you familiar with the DC-10


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Plane didn't fall because it's basically a hunk of rickety scrap, it fell because the crew was drunk"


[23-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or MD-11


[23-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, shittily designed planes rushed out with barely any safety put into it


[23-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Killed a lot of people because shit just wouldn't work


[23-Dec-19 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Early on it was a baggage door that would _look_ properly latched and closed but it wasn't


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So a plane explosively decompressed


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People lived


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then they blamed the crew?


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
McDonnell Douglas' solution?


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Put a little window in the locking mechanism so you can see it lock


[23-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, but you can still you know _force the lock closed_


[23-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And you only put the warning "check the lock through the window" in two languages


[23-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The other major one was caused by the airlines to be sure


[23-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hey instead of taking the engine off the pylon, let's take the whole assembly off the wing to maintain the engine"


[23-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"And then let's just like- ram the whole thing back up on the wing when we're done with a forklift"


[23-Dec-19 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191223-netanyahu-accuses-icc-of-anti-semitism-in-pursuit-of-war-crimes-probe/

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Netanyahu accuses ICC of anti-Semitism in pursuit of war crimes probe
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused the International Criminal Court of anti-Semitism on Sunday over its chief prosecutor's plan to pursue a war crimes probe in the Palestinian Territori...
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[23-Dec-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
this is functionally similar to saying "you just have an anti-right bias"


[23-Dec-19 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
or "you just hate conservatives" or "get over it, the 2016 election happened"


[23-Dec-19 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gonna cry, Bibi? Gonna pee your pants? Maybe shit and cum?


[23-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/pete-buttigieg-financing-fundraising-email-2b0014b7-a8a8-4421-a18b-b2931f50a1d5.html

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Pete Buttigieg fundraiser dangles influence for donations in email
The fundraiser, H.K. Park, wrote that donating now would "get [you] on the campaign's radar" before Iowa.
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[23-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
> In a recent email exchange with a wealthy prospective donor, a top fundraiser for Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg made an offer that was unusually blunt — even by modern pay-to-play standards.
> 
> **What they're saying:** "If you want to get on the campaign's radar now before he is flooded with donations after winning Iowa and New Hampshire, you can use the link below for donations," the fundraiser, H.K. Park, wrote in an email to the donor, which was reviewed by Axios.
> 
> **Why it matters:** Brendan Fischer at the campaign finance watchdog the Campaign Legal Center said the Buttigieg fundraiser's pitch "is an example of a campaign offering potential donors an opportunity to buy influence."


[23-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
> The Buttigieg campaign lists Park on its website as one of its top fundraisers — those who have raised at least $25,000 for the campaign.


[23-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[23-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
this is like top twitch donations bullshit


[23-Dec-19 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"An opportunity to buy influence"


[23-Dec-19 10:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which is totes not fancy talk for bribing


[23-Dec-19 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Buy me like a cheap whore now and i'll make all your wildest bribes come true"


[23-Dec-19 10:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The problem with Boeing was is that they tried to use the old aircraft fuselage, designed way back in 60's for small engines and engineering problem caught them with new big engines. They had to place  engines in literally front of wings, totally changing aerodynamics.

This came with a new certification issue: new aerodynamics made it a new airplane, it must be certified  by FAA and pilots re-trained for the new airplane. Boeing decided to cheat and implement crutch to "fix" new aerodynamics to make it feel like an old airplane, without need to recertify. Pilot should NOT know about it.
@Itsthinking @Nebbie


[23-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's horrible tho.


[23-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pilots should be trained to fly the plane.


[23-Dec-19 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Masking the actual handling in software is highly undesirable.


[23-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They wanted airplane as fast as possible to beat Airbus. Certification was in way of timeline.


[23-Dec-19 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well then fukk 'em.


[23-Dec-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make cheap faulty plane, get cash, let airlines and pilots take the fall when it all falls appart, then walk away and scam another airport while probably killing dozens of people


[23-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I heard they have stopped production at all.


[23-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://youtu.be/tMkH_9pAydQ

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Republicans May NEVER Win The House Again Due To Immigration, Cali...
Republicans May NEVER Win The House Again Due To Immigration, California Set To Gain ELEVEN Seats. According to a new report from the Center for immigration studies, states that voted for Trump in 2016 are set to lose 24 house seats and electoral college votes and solidly blu...
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[23-Dec-19 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american air travel is horrifying


[23-Dec-19 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Sunnyside This is almost as dumb as the people who get upset that people are moving to Texas but still voting Democrat


[23-Dec-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/22/790588715/boeings-starliner-lands-safely-back-to-earth-after-aborted-space-station-mission who the fuck is lettign them build and design space craft?

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Boeing's Starliner Lands Safely Back To Earth After Aborted Space ...
The journey is being hailed as a major achievement despite failing to complete a core objective: docking at the international space station. NASA hopes to launch U.S. astronauts in space in 2020.
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[23-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I'd rather trust Russian spacecraft. 98.5% recorded reliability.


[23-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans can never win again cause of hispanics?


[23-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gee, maybe their policies shouldn't be racist, then.


[23-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) the stupid part is this was a success


[23-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
First they landed with only the minimum of two chutes, and that passed NASA's parameters


[23-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
then they couldn't get to the ISS cause of a mission clokk bug and overly restrictive software


[23-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and again, the parameters were just to get to orbit and bakk safely.


[23-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
ALSO NASA paid them extra money, without any explained reason.


[23-Dec-19 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably for DLC


[23-Dec-19 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the EA of aircraft....


[23-Dec-19 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The reason is bribery and lobbying


[23-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Talked to people who worked for lobbyists


[23-Dec-19 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They can get any senator they want on the phone in ten minutes


[23-Dec-19 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they can


[23-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those 3 houses and ivy league tuition for their kids aren't coming from their senator's salary


[23-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And if you piss off the wrong lobby, they turn and smear you


[23-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And start funding your opponent


[23-Dec-19 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/nazaninzar/status/1208960032324366337

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https://twitter.com/nazaninzar/status/1208960032324366337
Was no one going to tell me Khomeini's great grandson looks like this?
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[24-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like he has money?


[24-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
like a normal* person and not muslim fundamentalist.


[24-Dec-19 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
not all that suprising tbh, 3 generations removed.


[24-Dec-19 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
(I think they mean how he's hot)


[24-Dec-19 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that too, he's quite easy on the eyes.


[24-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people often are.


[24-Dec-19 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7e8550f1b1469b642d221c457d281df0

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McConnell not ruling out witnesses in impeachment trial
PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Monday that he was not ruling out calling witnesses in President Donald Trump's impeachment trial — but indicated he was in no...
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[24-Dec-19 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People forget that the prosecutor Biden wanted fired was also pushed to be fired by a bunch of Republican senators


[24-Dec-19 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is premised on forgetting everything so they can change their stances at will.


[24-Dec-19 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden didn't get the guy fired to help Hillary with her campaign or something


[24-Dec-19 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that every one of these guys (AND TRUMP) also signed off on releasing the military aid


[24-Dec-19 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, months before the call. And then it got halted less than 2 hours after the call.


[24-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the hold itself was illegal


[24-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if Trump had good reasons.


[24-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one aspect way, way too many people are not bringing up


[24-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
ONLY CONGRESS is allowed to decide spending, it may GRANT spending powers to other branches


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, the narrative is that biden got the guy fired to help his son


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has granted the president up to 45 days of aid withholding until getting special congressional approval


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the aid was withheld for more than 45 days


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump violated the law.


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has admitted to violating the law.


[24-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This violation of the law is also a direct violation of the separation of powers into the various branches.


[24-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But everyone just wants to talk about how proven or not it is that Trump did a bribe (and yes he did)


[24-Dec-19 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are at a point where people don't even raise a fuss about a direct violation of separation of powers.


[24-Dec-19 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Abuse of power can include taking a bribe


[24-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[24-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying that he shouldn't be impeached over that.


[24-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying anyone saying that what Trump has explicitly admitted to doing isn't impeachable is full of shit.


[24-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has explicitly admitted to violating the constitution and a specific statue whether he did bribery or not.


[24-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/pelosi-doubles-down-wont-pick-impeachment-managers-until-receiving-assurances-of-fair-trial/

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Pelosi Doubles Down, Won’t Pick Impeachment Managers Until Recei...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Monday reiterated her position that the House will not select impeachment managers until the Senate ensures the chamber will conduct a fair trial. Impeachment managers essentially act as prosecutors, arguing the House’s case against...
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[24-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
so pelosi's going through with that thing to not send the articles to the senate


[24-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/scotus-to-decide-momentous-case-on-separation-of-church-and-state/

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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/scotus-to-decide-momentous-case-on-separation-of-church-and-state/
SCOTUS to Decide Momentous Case on Separation of Church and State
The U.S. Supreme Court in January is slated to hear a case that could have significant implications for the separation of church and state. The crux of the case facing the justices in Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue is whether or not a state can be compelled to use...
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GettyImages-1137381717.jpg


[24-Dec-19 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't realize the hypothetical was a pending case


[24-Dec-19 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The case centers on the state’s 2015 Montana Tax Credit Scholarship Program, which aimed to give residents “choice in education” by providing a tax-credit of up to $150 for contributions that fund privately-run scholarship programs.

The initial lawsuit was filed by three mothers who had been utilizing the program to assist in paying for their children’s tuition at the Stillwater Christian School after Revenue Department declared the private school was ineligible for the program, citing to an amendment in the Montana constitution’s “no-aid provision,” forbidding from providing “direct or indirect aid” to any “church, sect, or denomination.”

In light of the no aid amendment, the Montana Supreme Court last year struck down the tax-credit program in its entirety, ruling that was incompatible with the law."


[24-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Striking it down works, but as it was before it was completely and totally fine.


[24-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol you don't know MT


[24-Dec-19 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see the issue when they give to _no_ religious school at all, regardless of denomination/sect


[24-Dec-19 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course the essay I wrote said that the MT Supreme Court was completely correct and went on a whole pro-secularism screed


[24-Dec-19 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course I don't think Montana even had to invalidate the program


[24-Dec-19 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also what a lot of private/religious schools apparently do is say "well we're not _really_ a religious school" which is a weird argument


[24-Dec-19 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But when they back it up with stats


[24-Dec-19 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/dec/22/zuckerbot-mark-zuckerberg-facebook-botnik

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Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg won’t talk to the Guardian. So we fed everything he says into an algorithm, built a Zuckerbot, and interviewed it
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[24-Dec-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm. Another gentle reminder that I really need to read up on how automated text analysis works.


[24-Dec-19 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody actually knows


[24-Dec-19 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How machine learning actually works: We give computers LSD until they cross enough wires to start hallucinating the secrets of the universe


[24-Dec-19 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/themattwain/status/1208903609359966208

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https://twitter.com/themattwain/status/1208903609359966208
So I'd definitely put money on this account being run by one of the crank accounts who monstered Corbyn over the past few years. The thing to note are the number of people they're following. Yes it's a lot of non Bernie democrats as you'd expect, but then others pop up
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[24-Dec-19 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking


[24-Dec-19 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's this "grassroots politics" account that has been going around sharing literally nothing other than anti-Bernie hitpieces and accusations of antisemitism (which grade to nothing above Bernie's support of Palestinian autonomy and rights and the odd wacko occasionally acquainted with him) in the hopes that the centrists will lap it up


[24-Dec-19 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I fucking predicted this would happen to Bernie too


[24-Dec-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus Christ, conservatives are getting way too predictable as of recently


[24-Dec-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also they claimed Eugene Debs was racist


[24-Dec-19 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456099146001285142/658828757498593291/image0.png

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[24-Dec-19 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly anyone with just a keyboard and google can just look up Debs' stances on racial exclusion and see that they were not favorable


[24-Dec-19 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yeah but who will


[24-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the idea.


[24-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
there's a million things to maybe doubt and look up, and most of them are a line of text and 2 clicks away.


[24-Dec-19 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
but, there's a million things.


[24-Dec-19 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
disinformation campaign, even a very superficial one, is successful because people have (or think they have) better uses for their time than to double-check even the important stuff.


[24-Dec-19 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
god @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 that's awful


[24-Dec-19 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
> **What’s your favorite thing about Pete Buttigieg?**
> 
> He is basically a walking mop for political discourse. When he comes home, you can be confident that you have about one hundred seconds to share some thoughts on governments, or you simply will get blocked.


[24-Dec-19 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
lmao @byte[]


[24-Dec-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
> **How do you think about your responsibility to limit the spread of misinformation on your website?**
> 
> I don’t believe in Germany. Does that need to be fact-checked?

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[24-Dec-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
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[24-Dec-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Finland is the new Denmark


[24-Dec-19 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has anyone ever proved that Denmark exists?


[24-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Greenland keeps insisting it does.


[24-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/HOq2aB5.jpg

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[24-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently people are pissed about the netflix adaptation of the witcher


[24-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
which is apparently supposed to be some sort of "origins" story about the origins of characters in the book/game


[24-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher_(TV_series)

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The Witcher (TV series)
The Witcher is an American fantasy drama web television series created by Lauren Schmidt Hissrich for Netflix. It is based on the book series of the same name by Polish writer Andrzej Sapkowski.
Set in a medieval world on a landmass known as the Continent, The Witcher follows...
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[24-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
as much as people are gonna try to spin it as racism, there's kinda a point when literally all of the source material points towards a fair-skinned, blue-eyed, straight-haired redhead, but the adaptation decides to use a dark-skinned, dark-eyed, and curly-haired brunette instead, that's all a major failing on the directors' parts, not the actors/actresses


[24-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who made The Witcher series absolutely fucking detests anything related to the games


[24-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Partially because he signed away rights like 15 years ago thinking they would be nothing and now is whining to Polish courts that he deserves the money


[24-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wouldn't surprise me if this was an intentional choice.


[24-Dec-19 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2y2hil4L3o

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2y2hil4L3o
'I never understood windmills': Donald Trump launches into a bizar...
Subscribe to the Evening Standard on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7RQon_YwCnp_LbPtEwW65w?sub_confirmation=1

Donald Trump renewed his long-running attack on wind power during a rambling speech to conservative students over the weekend.

Mr Trump, who was speakin...
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[24-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, he literally says "I never understood wind, yet I know wind mills very much, I've studied it better than anybody"


[24-Dec-19 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
when I saw the headlines popping up about it, I thought he said it at different times in the same speech


[24-Dec-19 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
but he literally says it in the same goddamn line


[24-Dec-19 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[24-Dec-19 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, am I wrong for saying that this video evokes imagery that glorifies warfare and nazism? https://seed122.bitchute.com/4rWLXDkiKDTm/35P9YnDdKwCm.mp4

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[24-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
there's someone in another server who's a leftist that loves it, thinks it's rad as hell, and calls it "good art"


[24-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
when I told him how bad the video looks, he dismissed it by using justifications such as "art is art" and "artist intention doesn't matter, it's good art" and shit like that


[24-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
and then tried to say that its horrifying in a "subtle" manner when I mentioned that the intent of the video was either to glorify war or horrify viewers, but I skimmed the video and didn't see anything about the horrors of war, only the "exciting" parts


[24-Dec-19 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
he said his favorite part was at 1:08 when hitler asks the audience "Do you want TOTAL WAR?" and the audience yells back "YES!", then it cuts to artillery firing in time with the music, german soldiers shooting guns, etc


[24-Dec-19 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like a pretty straightfoward thing where he's trying to dismiss accusations of him loving nazism.


[24-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
he only mentioned that the video was meant to horrify in a "subtle" way when I explicitly mentioned that the video certainly seemed like it was trying to glorify something, whether it was nazism, genocide, or war in general, but then added on that if it wasn't meant to glorify anything, then it was meant to horrify


[24-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
and yes, this dude speaks out against nazism and calls out conservatives for implicitly supporting neo-nazis and white supremacists all the time, so I highly doubt I'm wrong about what his actual stances are


[24-Dec-19 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
he's definitely a leftist


[24-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
though he seems to argue a lot with conservatives for the sake of argument, not with an actual goal or point in mind


[24-Dec-19 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
basically, I'd pin him as an SJW if he hadn't also spoken out against them as well


[24-Dec-19 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not glorifying of nazis. It's glorifying of war in general. US, Russia, others probably produced similar stuff layed out in similar ways (though germans really pioneered propaganda reels). Hell, even we tried something similar, although of lower quality. Cutting edge technology (tanks, SPGs, MG-34 which defined general-purpose MG role going forward), nation's symbols, honorable pompous funerals and graves of the brave who sacrificed everything for the Fatherland.


[24-Dec-19 08:13 AM] Opponent#3498
in short, pro-war, pretty straight.


[24-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
yes, I did mention that if it wasn't glorifying nazis specifically, it was glorifying war


[24-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
which he also argued against, he was arguing that it wasn't saying "anything", which is a pretty common conservative take on anything remotely fascistic in nature which they support


[24-Dec-19 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
basically saying that people are "overreacting" when they see nazi and confederate flags being waved around or question why there's a statue of a confederate war hero that was erected in the 20's


[24-Dec-19 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-defamation-league-slams-giuliani-saying-george-soros-hardly-jew-2019-12

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A major Jewish group slammed Rudy Giuliani for saying George Soros...
The Anti-Defamation League said comments from Giuliani — Donald Trump's lawyer — about George Soros could serve as a dog-whistle to anti-Semites.
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[24-Dec-19 11:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-joy-covey-killed-company-delivery-van-report-2019-12

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Amazon executive was killed after colliding with a van delivering ...
"I heard a scream, immediately followed by a crash," the van's driver testified, according to the report.
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[24-Dec-19 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-faces-backlash-for-controversial-pardons-2019-12

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Former Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin is facing backlash for controversi...
Outgoing Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin's pardoning decisions drew ire from the victims' families and prosecutors who worked the cases alike.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e015b6b855cc228383eda82?width=1200&format=jpeg


[24-Dec-19 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
second chances or no, you fucking released several convicted murderers, and a goddamned child rapist. If there isnt atleast one revenge story in the news soon i would be surprised


[24-Dec-19 11:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-navy-seal-private-meetings-afghanistan-war-2019-12

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'They lie to you': Trump previously held private meetings with Nav...
"I don't want any generals in here" or "any officers," President Donald Trump told his advisers, according to a new book. "I just want enlisted guys."
https://image.businessinsider.com/5d17886da17d6c3f9a5995a2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[24-Dec-19 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20191220/1-billion-for-briny-breezes-real-estate-broker-thinks-trump-would-buy-and-residents-are-listening

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$1 billion for Briny Breezes? Real estate broker thinks Trump woul...
A plan being pushed by a Briny Breezes resident would sell the 43-acre town for $1   billion to Donald Trump as a potential site for a presidential library.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/storyimage/LK/20191220/NEWS/191229865/AR/0/AR-191229865.jpg&MaxW=1200&MaxH=630


[24-Dec-19 12:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://image.businessinsider.com/5a7a558a193a7a1c008b49ff?format=jpeg

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[24-Dec-19 12:30 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, that image on the business insider article about the private meetings with navy seals


[24-Dec-19 12:31 PM] Crow#5457
he looks like he's about to go out and murder someone with that musket, knowing full well that he'd still be untouchable due to being president


[24-Dec-19 12:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`How do you think about your responsibility to limit the spread of misinformation on your website?

I don’t believe in Germany. Does that need to be fact-checked?`


[24-Dec-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/sroezummhdl31.jpg

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[24-Dec-19 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
obviously germany's just as fictional as finland


[24-Dec-19 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is australia even real?


[24-Dec-19 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, you are living in a fictional country, how does this make you feel?


[24-Dec-19 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wish my taxes and rent were fictional

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[24-Dec-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/KerrrryC/status/1208514877003710464?s=19

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A NYPD officer Michael Reynolds goes to Nashville for a bachelor party, breaks into Black family's home while blackout drunk, threatens to kill mother and her small children, & calls them “fucking nig***s.”

He only got 2 weeks in jail & he's still employed by the NYPD...
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[24-Dec-19 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
@ amazon, little ironies of life. And the attitude, 'just another accident'. It's not just the working class who doesn't matter. Nobody and nothing matters but the corporation, full stop. Love it.


[24-Dec-19 03:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-yang-fourth-most-favored-candidate-buttigieg-poll-1478990

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Andrew Yang overtakes Pete Buttigieg to become fourth most favored...
The entrepreneur is a point ahead of Buttigieg on favorability, but still two places behind the mayor when Democratic voters are asked who they'll back.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1555817/andrew-yang-gun-control-event.jpg


[24-Dec-19 03:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Roller coaster primaries


[24-Dec-19 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
YANG YANG YANG YANG


[24-Dec-19 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GIMME MY FREEDOM DIVIDEND


[24-Dec-19 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-may-be-impeached-second-time-new-obstruction-evidence-emerges-2019-12

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Trump could be impeached a 2nd time if the House obtains new evide...
House Democrats are probing alleged attempts by Trump to derail the Mueller probe, and it could lead to further impeachment charges.
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[24-Dec-19 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
compound impeachment


[24-Dec-19 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uighur-activists-mass-rape-chinese-men-xinjiang-2019-12

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'This is mass rape': Uighur activist condemns program said to pay ...
A Uighur activist has spoken out against China's controversial program in which Han Chinese men are sent to live with Uighur women in Xinjiang.
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[24-Dec-19 05:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/NsdLPIOYHW0

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Jonathan Pie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsdLPIOYHW0
Jonathan Pie meets HRH The Duke of Chesterton.
In an exclusive interview HRH The Duke of Chesterton talks about the rumours surrounding his personal conduct and his friendship with Sir Harry Carmichael. 

https://www.jonathanpie.com
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[24-Dec-19 06:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/922932

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FDA Warns of 'Serious' Respiratory Problems With Gabapentin
The FDA is warning of serious, life-threatening respiratory problems associated with gabapentin.
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[24-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
uh


[24-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I think if you're taking gabapentin you have _way_ more pressing problems


[24-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
(is the drug of choice for benzo withdrawal, which will FUCK YOU UP SO HARD you'll wish it was alcohol withdrawal)


[24-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RyanHillMI/status/1208029270276268034

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https://twitter.com/RyanHillMI/status/1208029270276268034
@realDonaldTrump The President can’t spell!

SAD.
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[24-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
... did trump delete his tweets and repost them or something?


[24-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
because the tweet it's replying to doesn't have that typo


[24-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
plus the time posted is different


[24-Dec-19 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
I guess he got tired of getting called out on his typos or something


[24-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/23/us/asian-giant-hornet-washington-state-scn-trnd/index.html

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A giant hornet has invaded Washington state, and it's hungry for h...
An Asian giant hornet, the largest pest of its kind, was found near the US-Canada border. It's fearsome, but it's less of a risk to humans than it is to honeybees.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191223132354-asian-hornet-super-tease.jpg


[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
... this is pretty significant, not only is it in the wrong part of the world, it's active when it's usually dormant


[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
wait how is this political though


[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
is it because it crossed the border illegally


[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
BuT gLoBaL wArMiNg Is A cHiNeSe HoAx


[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/FrailOldWoman/status/1200855620573749248

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The Hubris Guy (again) (@FrailOldWoman)
https://twitter.com/FrailOldWoman/status/1200855620573749248
#MayorPete #Buttigieg IS THE SMILER. CONFIRMED
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[24-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
no, psker doesn't post in any other channel, even if it's non-political


[24-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
and seems to treat this channel as some kind of news dump


[24-Dec-19 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a0c322ada689cc214d75e6b9a2f91720

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Trump says North Korea may be planning nice 'Christmas gift'
PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may be planning to give him “a nice present" such as a “beautiful vase” for Christmas rather than a...
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[24-Dec-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/46161302b7a034fee5f741dd7ca7a4a3

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Bill aims to open lawsuit window for adult sex abuse suits
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) —  Churches, youth groups  and schools were hit by a tsunami of lawsuits in 2019 after New York gave survivors of childhood sexual abuse a one-year window to sue over allegations...
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[24-Dec-19 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-giuliani-insists-hes-more-195039118.html

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Rudy Giuliani insists he's 'more of a Jew' than George Soros, who ...
"Don't tell me I'm anti-Semitic if I oppose him," Giuliani said. "Soros is hardly a Jew. I'm more of a Jew than Soros is."
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[24-Dec-19 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Antisemitism is when other people say they're more Jewish than you"


[24-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Secular Judaism doesn't exist I guess.


[24-Dec-19 08:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
It is time to bully the Democrats Against Anti-Semitism for being a Tory plot.


[24-Dec-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Use them as a shield, like the IDF does to Palestinian children


[24-Dec-19 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main purpose of the anti semitisem calls is they needed soemthing to excuse their deals with abusive government corporations over seas. "It would be anti-semitic not to do business with them!"


[24-Dec-19 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Buy the SodaStream.


[24-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What, you don't drink soda? Who cares, just do it or you are an anti-Semite.


[24-Dec-19 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buy the juicero to prove you stand for jewish rights!


[24-Dec-19 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(SodaStreams are/were manufactured largely in Israeli settlements)


[24-Dec-19 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Took out "illegal" because "Israeli settlement" already implies that


[24-Dec-19 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the whole point of the boycotts was isreal's treatment of palestinians


[24-Dec-19 08:50 PM] illumnious#7938
From a different server https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609901811712655370/659096286385143819/IMG_20191223_093748.jpg

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[24-Dec-19 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given his face on the packaging it looks more like a suppository candy than an oral candy


[24-Dec-19 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-argentina-trademarks/ trump grifted argentina

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Linnaea Honl-Stuenkel
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US Held Off on Tariffs while Argentina Reviewed Trump Trademarks -...
Trump's Argentina trademarks are not the first time that the Trump family’s trademarks ran up against American foreign policy.
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[24-Dec-19 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he bargainedlifting the tariffs on argentina if they would give him a few trademarks, did so while they considered the offer, and thne when they did and the deal was done he re-instated the tariffs


[24-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
these 'child abuse' cases from ages past... Entirely unprovable, 'listen and believe' kinda stuff. Guilty by default.


[24-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
road to hell paved by good intentions.


[25-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1209517991630659591

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Ace Watkins (@GamerPres2020)
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Social Security Numbers are an outdated, archaic system. When I am president, we will give every American a unique Sonic OC that will act as their government identification.
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[25-Dec-19 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would you commit identity theft if doing so was this shameful?


[25-Dec-19 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whenever you ask a question about shame remember there are people who not only buy, but prefer, store-brand cereal.


[25-Dec-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminded of the dolphin masturbation story.


[25-Dec-19 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, I know the answer, and it's a yes so hard that it's probably the reason humans are a threat to aliens if aliens exist. https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/06/the-dolphin-who-killed-himself-over-a-broken-heart/

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The Dolphin Who Killed Himself Over A Broken Heart
As a famous civil-rights leader once said, the arc of the sexual universe is long, but it eventually bends toward dolphin suicide.
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[25-Dec-19 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She started jerking off a dolphin because it was less work than moving it to the other tank with the female dolphins for a bit.


[25-Dec-19 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the thing about people


[25-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
when push comes to shove, they'll do whatever is necessary.


[25-Dec-19 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The castle has a shitpipe? Okay, guess where invading forces are coming in from.


[25-Dec-19 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why I laff when people start talking about things like how the law will totes stop people from doing something, or that making that something more risky will do such.


[25-Dec-19 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Denying kids HPV vaccines won't make them stop fukking, it'll just mean they get HPV while they do so.


[25-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukDOzsXwmYY

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CBS News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukDOzsXwmYY
Report: Bloomberg used prison labor for campaign calls
According to a new report, former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg used prison labor to make calls for his presidential campaign. Julia Manchester, a reporter for The Hill, spoke to CBSN about the impact this could have on Bloomberg's campaign.

Subscribe to the CBS News...
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[25-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit dude


[25-Dec-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/24/791194618/bloomberg-campaign-vendor-used-prison-labor-to-make-presidential-campaign-calls

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Bloomberg Campaign Vendor Used Prison Labor To Make Presidential C...
Michael Bloomberg is one of the world's richest men, with a net worth of about $56 billion. He said his campaign cut ties with the vendor as soon as it learned prison workers were making calls.
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[25-Dec-19 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
> This is hilarious, his campaign is imploding before it even began.


[25-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Quote stolen from another server:


[25-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Literally slave labor from people who've had their legal right to vote taken away by the state... to elect a person they're not allowed to vote for or against."


[25-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somewhere, a monarchist is creaming themselves.


[25-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is exactly what conservatives and neoliberals want.


[25-Dec-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```And that's why I laff when people start talking about things like how the law will totes stop people from doing something, or that making that something more risky will do such.```
yet you, yourself, seemingly are a great proponent of 'rule of law'. Make everyone obey the law, no matter what the law is. Then utopia starts.


[25-Dec-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I think, in the end, you'll talk whatever as long as it is opposing current Republican stance.


[25-Dec-19 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
anything to get the job done, like you said ealier.


[25-Dec-19 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/pK7V2KmboFE

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Comrade Cora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7V2KmboFE
YTP Dennis Prager's Master Plan
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[25-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, the law doesn't stop people from doing illegal stuff when people feel they have no other choice or feel that the rewards are worth the risks, it only stops people from doing illegal stuff when there are legal alternatives


[25-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
well, that much is obvious.


[25-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's that just typical laws are all about 'restrict' and 'deny'.


[25-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
you can have the rule of law and still recognize that human psychology doesn't prevent people from breaking the law, the rule of law means that the law applies to the richest billionaire to the poorest pauper


[25-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
so 'rule of law' is just that. Universal, even application of it.


[25-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I misunderstood the term then.


[25-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
fair, that I can get behind.


[25-Dec-19 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
re-read what I said before. I misunderstood the term, as in, the intention is for the law to apply to the entire society, top to bottom, transparent guidelines instead of a weapon against someone, typically unwashed masses.


[25-Dec-19 06:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/stirling-och-partners/pressreleases/breaking-canadian-whistleblower-faces-extradition-for-exposing-uae-financial-scandal-2878999

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[25-Dec-19 06:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Conventional Justice is a SCAM


[25-Dec-19 06:22 AM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Vigilante justice is the only way to go


[25-Dec-19 07:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  do assinations in developed countries even occur anymore? i dont think guillitine would work if its impossible to even kill them


[25-Dec-19 12:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Itsthinking Store cereal is a third of the price of branded cereal, what rube buys Kellogs or whatever in this day and age?


[25-Dec-19 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who even still eats cereal as a regular breakfast, even


[25-Dec-19 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
malt-o-meal has giant bags of cereal you can buy for really cheap compared to what a bag of the same size might cost if it came from kellogs or general mills


[25-Dec-19 01:14 PM] ononim#8141
~~I eat muesli does it count~~


[25-Dec-19 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only name brand cereal i;d really buy is kellogs smorez since that doesnt have an off brand version


[25-Dec-19 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/20000-feet-under-the-sea/603040/

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History’s Largest Mining Operation Is About to Begin
It’s underwater—and the consequences are unimaginable.
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[25-Dec-19 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Mining executives insist that their work in the ocean is misunderstood. Some adopt a swaggering bravado and portray the industry as a romantic frontier adventure. As the manager of exploration at Nautilus Minerals, John Parianos, told me recently, “This is about every man and his dog filled with the excitement of the moon landing. It’s like Scott going to the South Pole, or the British expeditions who got entombed by ice.”

Nautilus occupies a curious place in the mining industry. It is one of the oldest companies at work on the seafloor, but also the most precarious. Although it has a permit from the government of Papua New Guinea to extract metal from offshore vents, many people on the nearby island of New Ireland oppose the project, which will destroy part of their marine habitat. Local and international activists have whipped up negative publicity, driving investors away and sending the company into financial ruin. Nautilus stock once traded for $4.45. It is now less than a penny per share.

Parianos acknowledged that Nautilus was in crisis, but he dismissed the criticism as naive. Seabed minerals are no different from any other natural resource, he said, and the use of natural resources is fundamental to human progress. “Look around you: Everything that’s not grown is mined,” he told me. “That’s why they called it the Stone Age—because it’s when they started mining! And mining is what made our lives better than what they had before the Stone Age.” Parianos emphasized that the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which created the International Seabed Authority, promised “to ensure effective protection for the marine environment” from the effects of mining. “It’s not like the Law of the Sea says: Go out and ravage the marine environment,” he said. “But it also doesn’t say that you can only explore the ocean for science, and not to make money.”


[25-Dec-19 01:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Dec-19 01:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ha ha same shit with actual salaries in Russia


[25-Dec-19 02:08 PM] ononim#8141

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[25-Dec-19 02:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[25-Dec-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/24/us/iowa-woman-ran-over-girl-hit-black-child-trnd/index.html

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[25-Dec-19 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[25-Dec-19 04:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Our crazy politics year: From buying Greenland to Giuliani butt-dials to live-streaming dental work  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/our-crazy-politics-year-buying-greenland-giuliani-butt-dials-live-n1105726

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Our crazy politics year: From buying Greenland to Giuliani butt-di...
As 2019 comes to a close, it's time to look back at the lighter side of campaigns, candidates and elected officials, including the president.
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[25-Dec-19 04:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Politics bizarre adventure


[25-Dec-19 05:14 PM] illumnious#7938

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[25-Dec-19 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't forget the windmill cancer and bird graveyards


[25-Dec-19 05:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or that he "clarified" a bird habitat regulation to smithereens *was reported on just days after talking about bird graveyards


[25-Dec-19 05:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-trump-policy-clarification-all-but-ends-punishment-for-bird-deaths/ar-BBYiM6s?li=BBnb7Kx

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WASHINGTON — As the state of Virginia prepared for a major bridge and tunnel expansion in the tidewaters of the Chesapeake Bay last year, engineers understood that the nesting grounds of 25,000 gulls, black skimmers, royal terns and other seabirds were about to be plowed un...


[25-Dec-19 05:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Bird death hun


[26-Dec-19 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
> The island is one of dozens of bird-preservation efforts that have fallen away in the wake of the policy change in 2017 that was billed merely as a technical clarification to a century-old law protecting migratory birds. Across the country birds have been killed and nests destroyed by oil spills, construction crews and chemical contamination, all with no response from the federal government, according to emails, memos and other documents viewed by The New York Times.


[26-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
> Not only has the administration stopped investigating most bird deaths, the documents show, it has discouraged local governments and businesses from taking precautionary measures to protect birds.


[26-Dec-19 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
the government wants to make birds not real


[26-Dec-19 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
State capitalism.


[26-Dec-19 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/475904-notre-dame-rector-sees-maybe-50-percent-chance-cathedral-can-be

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Notre Dame rector sees 'maybe' 50 percent chance cathedral can be ...
Notre Dame may not be salvageable after damage caused by a fire earlier this year, the rector of the Parisian landmark
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[26-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to put it simply


[26-Dec-19 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a 50% chance some shit just collapses


[26-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
50% chance it remains intact until it might be safe to enter in 2024


[26-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
By that time, there will be no political will left to talk about restoring the original roof


[26-Dec-19 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would take like $50 million and require deforesting a part of some third world country.


[26-Dec-19 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure that much money to restore a religious icon in a country noted for wanting separation of church and state will go over *real well* long after people hav accepted its death.


[26-Dec-19 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
obviously tear it down and build a secular university in its place


[26-Dec-19 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just build the roof out of metal or something. Cathedrals were built in phases since they took so long and every phase would be in a totally different style from the last so there's no hard-core consistency to their design, just their layout. So put a metal roof on it that looks like the old one and be done.

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[26-Dec-19 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_muffled laughing in Robespierre_


[26-Dec-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
I mean, yeah: you could just revive the Cult of the Supreme being for the ultimate meme


[26-Dec-19 03:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Paris has or did have a temple for that anyways and it was entirely out doors.


[26-Dec-19 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Notre Dame was a Temple of Reason for a bit.


[26-Dec-19 03:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_de_Mars

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[26-Dec-19 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never something for the Cult of the Supreme Being


[26-Dec-19 03:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Notre Dame was also just a dump and half-abandoned site then too


[26-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know it's cliche but I was a full neoliberal "how could the French have have done this" until I read de Sade and went


[26-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wow, people hated organized religion _this_ much"


[26-Dec-19 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, he was probably mentally ill


[26-Dec-19 03:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
L E    P O O P O O    A N  D    P E E P E E    M A N


[26-Dec-19 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Diogenes.


[26-Dec-19 03:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, DeSade was all about that weird shit, but much weirder than Diogenes. He is the reason "Sadism" exists.


[26-Dec-19 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Diogenes just wanted to masturbate in public


[26-Dec-19 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DeSade wanted to like, roast women alive while he raped them


[26-Dec-19 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
P much


[26-Dec-19 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
And make them eat shit


[26-Dec-19 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
He has an entire novel about a bunch of rich fucks who take in some young girls as sex objects and the whole thing is just them doing different gross sex acts until they die.


[26-Dec-19 03:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0N0tYE6jg8

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[26-Dec-19 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking You've got Diogenes wrong


[26-Dec-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So keep in mind, he was around at the same time as Plato


[26-Dec-19 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plato was busy pontificating to fukk about reason and politics all the while everyone was playing the classist manners game


[26-Dec-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diogenes didn't just masturbate in public because it felt good, he believed it was his mission to DESTROY the sham that was society.


[26-Dec-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be *offended* by other people apologizing for social faux pas.


[26-Dec-19 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't it like "If only rubbing my belly got rid of my hunger"


[26-Dec-19 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like when a young guy farted at one of his lectures and said sorry. He was like WTF MAN WHY DID YOU NOT FART IN THAT GUY'S FACE TO SPITE THE SYSTEM?


[26-Dec-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, that was a quote.


[26-Dec-19 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if you will, someone who sees a pinkie raised at a fancy dinner and beats the shit out of whoever does it.


[26-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also one time Plato tried to define a man based on physical characteristics in the simplest way possible.


[26-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Featherless biped"


[26-Dec-19 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cue Diogenes storming in with a plukked dead chikken and throwing it into the lecture area.


[26-Dec-19 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
why does diogenes remind me of you so much


[26-Dec-19 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well he is one of my favorite historical figures.


[26-Dec-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, Diogenes had society pegged on what it really (mostly) was: A giant pile of scams.


[26-Dec-19 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went out of his way to break all the rules.


[26-Dec-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, he was a bit of a luddite, that I really disagree with.


[26-Dec-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Diogenes thought that we needed to return to nature.


[26-Dec-19 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, he lakked a lot of modern day knowledge on things like *why* humans formed societies to begin with.


[26-Dec-19 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the original we live in a society


[26-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was told by the Oracle to "deface the currency of the realm"


[26-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he took a chisel, grabbed coins his dad was minting, and went to work.


[26-Dec-19 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was promptly kikked out of his hometown. Many of those coins survived to be found by archeologists btw, so apparantly that myth is not made up.


[26-Dec-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless SOMEONE ELSE was defacing coins minted by a guy named the same as Diogenes' father at the same time etc.


[26-Dec-19 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, he then went "wait a minute, the actual currency of the realm is MANNERS"


[26-Dec-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Diogenes basically was a real life shitposter, as a philosopher, and kikkstarted the most prolific branch of philosophy in the ancient world.


[26-Dec-19 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was not just wanting to *personally* liv like a hobo, @Itsthinking


[26-Dec-19 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
then he really would have lived in a society


[26-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lived in a society for the sole purpose of shitting all over it.


[26-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally.


[26-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He used to to think his life was a tragedy


[26-Dec-19 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then he realized it was a comedy


[26-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supposedly he'd walk the streets in the middle of the day with a lit lantern


[26-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying he was looking for "an honest man"


[26-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and unable to find one.


[26-Dec-19 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hug statues and walk barefoot in the snow


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
His only possession was a bowl


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he noticed that you could drink water by cupping your hands


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he threw the bowl away.


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't someone criticize him for owning the bowl


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
yeah


[26-Dec-19 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lived in an overturned barrel.


[26-Dec-19 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also ate in the marketplace, which from the sound of things was at the time a much greater rulebreak than public masturbation.


[26-Dec-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes I imagine myself waking up in like the Renaissance and beside me stealing all of the great cultural creations and taking them for myself


[26-Dec-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, his thing was Cynicism


[26-Dec-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Cynics believed reason > society, nature = reason


[26-Dec-19 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I imagine people would think it would be weird that I boiled water and washed my hands


[26-Dec-19 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later on, the Stoics formed out of that; they believed SOME parts of society were okay


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who were the people who didn't like beans


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Pythagoreans really liked beans.


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Stoics said that maaaaybe all this law and order is actually for a reason etc.


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they were the ones who couldn't even touch beans


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But still reason > society


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[26-Dec-19 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the bean plant was sacred


[26-Dec-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pythagoras died running from a mob


[26-Dec-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he refused to cut thru a bean field


[26-Dec-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the Stoics eventually died out


[26-Dec-19 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then philosophy was basically just the Catholic church telling you you'll go to hell if you kill yourself to escape your literal slavery, filthy serf.


[26-Dec-19 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cult of the Supreme Being isn't *that* far from Stoicism, and tbh I'd say it's actually further towards supporting illogical societal structures.


[26-Dec-19 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cult of the Supreme Being would hav us all be some shits on high pedestals saying how great we are as we come up with new arbitrary rules.


[26-Dec-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
dont be "uppity"


[26-Dec-19 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
~church


[26-Dec-19 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They agree on the whole deal of humans being scummy fukks, at least.


[26-Dec-19 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stoicism doesn't outright *require* you to go around masturbating and farting in public, but it does require you giv a damn good reason why you should care to not do so.


[26-Dec-19 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First would make a mess and the latter smells


[26-Dec-19 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former makes sense, latter doesn't.


[26-Dec-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[26-Dec-19 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a faux pas vs a major inconvenience.


[26-Dec-19 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stoicism says not to chastise people unless they're doing something unreasonable.


[26-Dec-19 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, that's why the whole farting thing was one of Diogenes' things that continued with Stoicism.


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind this was like, ancient Rome.


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were no crowded subway cars or elevators where things would actually be troublesome.


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surprises me they had no Goddess of Farts or something


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had a goddess of door hinges


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
People rode around in horses that would just shit everywhere, so it was pretty unreasonable that there was this rule for humans.


[26-Dec-19 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heh.


[26-Dec-19 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Outside of the bigger cities like Rome, even, there were people whose sole job was to sweep the crap out of the streets to local farms.


[26-Dec-19 04:30 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-goes-off-on-nonsensical-christmas-rant-against-nancy-pelosi/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump goes off on nonsensical Christmas rant against Nancy Pelosi
President Donald Trump went off on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) Christmas night, saying that the House shouldn’t have the right to impeach him. He began by saying that impeachment is illegitimate because he was able to ensure all of the Republicans would hold the line ...
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[26-Dec-19 04:30 AM] illumnious#7938
fuck


[26-Dec-19 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why should Crazy Nancy Pelosi, just because she has a slight majority in the House, be allowed to Impeach the President of the United States?"


[26-Dec-19 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Elections have consequences"


[26-Dec-19 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see nothing new here.


[26-Dec-19 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the Stoics would probably murder Robespierre.


[26-Dec-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone I know who is super gung ho for the GOP denies that the Senate GOP majority is weak


[26-Dec-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like


[26-Dec-19 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lose ME, CO, AZ, and AK


[26-Dec-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they'll retain Alaska


[26-Dec-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But lose KY


[26-Dec-19 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be hilarious.


[26-Dec-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
X


[26-Dec-19 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Murkowski is hated


[26-Dec-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
More than a democrat tho?


[26-Dec-19 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She has every symptom of "I have a weak seat, I am trying to play both sides"


[26-Dec-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but Its, it's Alaska


[26-Dec-19 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
the natives don't vote and the white people that come there for oil reasons do.


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alaska I always assumed is full of "fuck you, you can't control us national party"


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think Democrats will take their money and prevent them hunting wolves to extinction via helicopter.


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naaah


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's full of "fukk you, corruption is okay in small amounts because I benefit from it because my state's small"


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real common in the west


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
See Utah


[26-Dec-19 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta say as an aside the only thing I agreed with Trump on this year is buying Greenland


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically in the west, there's like mostly white people, and then natives


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the white people want resource money


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many more times does the US have to offer to buy it


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2? 3?


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the natives want the white people to stop stealing their land for resources


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the white people want the natives to lose all political power and services


[26-Dec-19 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence the state votes Republican.


[26-Dec-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under the belief that people like Gorsuch will just agree to not respect things like native treaties


[26-Dec-19 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and then he respects treaties LUL)


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How do we not have like


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single recognized tribe having House reps


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, people like Murkowski and Gianforte are elected solely on the belief that Republicans will prevent the inevitable slide into equality with natives.


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well first off, that would flood the House


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gianforte I only remember for him being a fascist


[26-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What else can you call assault on a journalist?


[26-Dec-19 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The journalist's glasses were in the Newseum next to Afghan war stuff


[26-Dec-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now realize, in Montana, often of the three congressman and one governor


[26-Dec-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's 1-2 Democrats


[26-Dec-19 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like it's a razor-thin balance of Republican/Democrat control


[26-Dec-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but Republicans just barely win because they scream louder about stuff like WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SLAUGHTER ALL WOLVES EVER CAUSE ONE MIGHT ONE DAY EAT MY CATTLE


[26-Dec-19 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People think Missouri is like this but like, if one Democrat flipped one major county the state goes blue


[26-Dec-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. Democrats pointing out that those people are literally nazis


[26-Dec-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis with farms


[26-Dec-19 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally all about race.


[26-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural areas want non-whites to stop being able to successfully liv.


[26-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I used to think the argument was rural vs urban but the more I read


[26-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The battle is not NYC v. rural Wyoming


[26-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is NYC v. like, Toledo


[26-Dec-19 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's NYC vs. NYC suburbs vs. upstate NY


[26-Dec-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first wants to oppress blakk people in carefully-controlled amounts, no civil rights, le police state, state capitalism, technically "Democrat" because they also want to not end welfare or completely kill minorities


[26-Dec-19 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second wants actual equality and rights


[26-Dec-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The third wants extreme inequality as businesses trample everyone's rights, the police solely existing to protect businesses, no welfare, kill minorities.


[26-Dec-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://thelensnola.org/2017/05/03/will-prosecutors-who-sent-fake-subpoenas-face-any-consequences/

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The possibilities include disciplinary action, federal charges, and nothing at all.


[26-Dec-19 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently it's possible to send fake subpoenas


[26-Dec-19 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially it's real estate owners vs. renters vs. "I lived here just like my pappy before me", @Itsthinking


[26-Dec-19 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you own where you liv, you tend to want to preserve the wealthy class you are in.


[26-Dec-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And among those people, it's just a matter of which *brand* of inequality they want.


[26-Dec-19 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is only a Republican because as the times changed, Democrats started actually saying inequality is bad and proposing changes.


[26-Dec-19 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden's alive in 10 years, he'll be a Republican.


[26-Dec-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I think there's a huge disconnect, altho it's waning...


[26-Dec-19 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suburban voters prior to Trump didn't know how bad shit was


[26-Dec-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wanted equality, but they thought we had it.


[26-Dec-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in their little neighborhood of middle class America, everything was peachy.


[26-Dec-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They saw one blakk guy at the grocery store, surely that means racism is over.


[26-Dec-19 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they hear that parts of blakk Alabama hav sewage go into the road and they're like "wait...why?"


[26-Dec-19 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, rich Democratic donors in NYC had no fukking clue abortion access was actually difficult in like, Louisiana.


[26-Dec-19 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially we ended up in a situation where the left was split between "wealthy, able to take political action, and oblivious" and "poor, completely cut off, and totally aware"


[26-Dec-19 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the right was split between "wealthy, able to take political action, and actively looking at people to exploit" and "poor, kind of able to take politcial action, and making sure this shit continues"


[26-Dec-19 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's why the Democratic primary is so messed up right now, I think.


[26-Dec-19 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now that the wealthy on the left know what's up, it's a big question of whether they should connect with the poor wanting to actually fix shit (which could threaten their wealth), or shun it and go "bipartisan" with only minimal improvements to appease people.


[26-Dec-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they'd been paying attention before, they would've been able to prevent this by reinforcing Obama's slow progress approach, and we'd likely not hav Trump to begin with.


[26-Dec-19 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you know, hindsight is 2020, and soon so will be the year.


[26-Dec-19 06:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoAD88cTsQ

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[26-Dec-19 06:18 AM] Jon the VGNerd#9950
Wasn't he already? He's been charged with abuse of power too


[26-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
apparently, while there's no precedent, you can impeach a president multiple times


[26-Dec-19 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
trump would become the first president in history to be impeached twice though


[26-Dec-19 06:45 AM] illumnious#7938
I was wrong, I though we had a no Trump tweets Christmas but no
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[26-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment is exempt from both due process and double jeopardy, because nothing but your office as at stake.


[26-Dec-19 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a very deliberate thing by the founders.


[26-Dec-19 07:03 AM] Jon the VGNerd#9950
Man, with Donald just firing away on his Twitter, it wouldn't surprise me if he's finally ejected after three years since he took office


[26-Dec-19 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if he started the new year by doing something extremely stupid/harmful


[26-Dec-19 10:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/01/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-to-build-training-camp-in-chinas-xinjiang?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Blackwater founder's Hong Kong firm signs Xinjiang training camp deal
Erik Prince ‘unaware’ of deal in region where up to a million Uighurs are reportedly held in detention camps
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[26-Dec-19 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
```Essentially, people like Murkowski and Gianforte are elected solely on the belief that Republicans will prevent the inevitable slide into equality with natives.```


[26-Dec-19 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
inevitable extinction of the natives maybe, all is equal in death.


[26-Dec-19 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
it would take a literal miracle of Old Gods blessing kind to make natives actually count for something


[26-Dec-19 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7824541/China-rewrite-Bible-Quran-reflect-socialist-values.html

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China will rewrite the Bible and Quran to 'reflect socialist values'
China plans to rewrite the Bible and Quran, among other 'existing religious classics' to 'reflect socialist values' amid crackdown on the country's religious groups, including the Muslim Uighurs.
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[26-Dec-19 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
these heretical religions threaten the Cult of the Party.


[26-Dec-19 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
not even ironic or joking here.


[26-Dec-19 04:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@illumnious it is the daily mail tho


[26-Dec-19 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, even if i do dislike China, i'll take literally anything they say with a grain of salt that weighs five kilograms


[26-Dec-19 04:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-Dec-19 04:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man what an useless fucking government post


[26-Dec-19 04:49 PM] Opponent#3498
too late for 'small steps' now missy :/


[26-Dec-19 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
small steps, like the total immediate collapse of britain

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[26-Dec-19 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
I think it's supposed to be anti-brexit message but, again, bit too late for that


[26-Dec-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably, though the tories arent going to listen,  *it's their money and they need it now*


[26-Dec-19 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jY_ZP6gQiQ context for my reference

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[26-Dec-19 06:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1210245693627084802?s=21

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[26-Dec-19 06:33 PM] illumnious#7938
*criminal aliens*


[26-Dec-19 06:33 PM] illumnious#7938
*working-class Americans*


[26-Dec-19 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not just working class americans, *poor working class americans*


[26-Dec-19 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh nooo not those mexican immigrants also deciding to tap on the diminute trickle down money dropped by the corporate nobility


[26-Dec-19 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Dec-19 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Dec-19 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
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[26-Dec-19 06:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/GNaWPV5l4j4

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[26-Dec-19 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Dec-19 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
:ponkthonk:


[26-Dec-19 06:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Santa had to move because he thought coal was a good punishment for all the naughty kids.


[26-Dec-19 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
not a good long-term capital management strategy.


[26-Dec-19 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the original saint nick did that because he thought children who were naughty needed warmth. Though it;s not as great a punishment nowadays


[26-Dec-19 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Koch brothers took the lesson to heart


[26-Dec-19 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We'll give you warmth for both your parent;s souls and all the money you ever obtain"


[26-Dec-19 07:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/flood-land-homes-houses-insurance-development-cpre-a9243001.html

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[26-Dec-19 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/12/23/20991659/ebook-amazon-kindle-ereader-department-of-justice-publishing-lawsuit-apple-ipad

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The 2010s were supposed to bring the ebook revolution. It never qu...
Publishing spent the 2010s fighting tooth and nail against ebooks. There were unintended consequences.
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[26-Dec-19 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, the oligopoly of publishers fixed ebook prices high with Amazon, the DoJ sued Amazon to put an end to it, and then publishers fixed ebook prices high again without having Amazon as part of the conspiracy, so now we're in permanent price fixing to prevent ebooks from being something non-boomers can afford.


[26-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the US gov't refuses to go after price-fixing that isn't done by a major tech company.


[26-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there are five publishers and that number is likely to go down until there's only one.


[26-Dec-19 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I have 300 books loade onto my kindle, the only thing I paid for was $100 for the kindle and like $5 off a humble bundle collection


[26-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure what the role of a publisher is now


[26-Dec-19 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can just hire someone to edit


[26-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The role of a publisher is to set prices high on Amazon so that ebook sales remain at only one fifth of paperbakk sales.


[26-Dec-19 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That and enable access to bookstores.


[26-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're a completely worthless middleman whose sole interest is in raising the price on consumers and obfuscating pricing.


[26-Dec-19 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they use their existing might as leverage to keep independent publishers out of the bookstores.


[26-Dec-19 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, I really think at this point that any business whose sole reason for existence is to connect consumers to producers and sets the rules on such should be fukking illegal.


[26-Dec-19 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Publishers, health insurers, etc. are NOT actually selling a product, they're just intervening to decide who can buy and at what price.


[26-Dec-19 08:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[26-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
```The role of a publisher is to set prices high on Amazon so that ebook sales remain at only one fifth of paperbakk sales.```


[26-Dec-19 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
what Teaspoon meant to say was, their impact is minimal.


[26-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
they can fix all the prices they want, getting an e-book for free or cheap-as-free from a bundle is in most cases trivial. And the rare and/or old ones that are only available this way are a tiny minority portion of the market


[26-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The impact is NOT minimal


[26-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority of the sales are not going on on sites like humble bundle


[26-Dec-19 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Amazon is a HUGE book seller.


[26-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
While a smart consumer can avoid it for many books, the majority of consumers either consume books that cannot be gotten this way or do not know.


[26-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Look at the fukking sales numbers.


[26-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
well in that case, people are sheep and need to get out of their comfort zone. And if said zone is screwing with them and profitting off them, well, too bad.


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
this is one of those things an individual can _actually_ improve for once.


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is not true


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
listen to what I actually said


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
for many books


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is not possible to get them from Humble Bundle or equivalent.


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not every book is the fukking same.


[26-Dec-19 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority will ONLY get published on Amazon and physical locations.


[26-Dec-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
While some consumers just don't *know*, the fact is that if they did try to go thru Humble Bundle it would result in them only getting a fraction of the books they want


[26-Dec-19 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
the overall impact would still be for them that it's a bad investment to buy an ereader.


[26-Dec-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking like $300 upfront to try to get those cheaper books.


[26-Dec-19 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a smarter consumer just won't work when things are set up this way.


[26-Dec-19 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can be a *less wanting* consumer, but then you're basically not a consumer.


[26-Dec-19 08:33 PM] Opponent#3498
fine, I'll grant you that I'm only working off personal experience and first-hand accounts. The grand picture could be different.


[26-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
but yes, what once started as a 'price of convenience', evolved lately into 'price of gatekeeping'.


[26-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the pricing model.


[26-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
these types of services shouldn't be illegal period, but should be restricted heavily in what they can actually _do_ on their own.


[26-Dec-19 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Services like this should never set rules on what the final retailer can do pricewise.


[26-Dec-19 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Amazon should be able to set the price at $2 if it wants for everything.


[26-Dec-19 08:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[26-Dec-19 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
probably because literally everyone else is ALSO getting persecuted around the world at the same time.


[26-Dec-19 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an entertainment that transcends nations and borders :3


[26-Dec-19 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
```Amazon should be able to set the price at $2 if it wants for everything.```
theoretically it's up to publisher to calculate and declare a price of product (as well as provide quality control and assistance to the author). Costs plus a service fee if nothing else. If it's a non-profit, the author or some sponsors have to pay, or just eat the costs which turns you into a charity.


[26-Dec-19 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
problem with this is, as usual, when you scale it WAY UP and monopolise things in the scope of a country or the world, well, old rules don't work anymore.


[26-Dec-19 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
many economic ideas are the same, actually, but that's a story for another time.


[26-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
and, to be honest, the problem is not that the system here is faulty. The problem is the prices they set are too high for peoples' tastes.


[26-Dec-19 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
also setting them cheap-as-free would turn paper books into vanity objects. Dunno if they aren't already tbh, but still.


[26-Dec-19 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which books we are talking about?


[26-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
so far the books as a concept. My example, based on personal experience, was scientific publication.


[26-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
dunno if the article that sparked it said anything specific about it.


[26-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
actually reading it, it's mostly 'orange boomers bad' again.


[26-Dec-19 08:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To me, it seems the books are niche in general.


[26-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
...and the example of 400$ e-reader they present as an 'investment' is pretty high-end stuff btw, you can get one for 100$ which will do you just as good (if not have a bespoke cork cover for it maybe...)


[26-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
it even starts off with.


[26-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
```The people who are actually buying ebooks? Mostly boomers. “Older readers are glued to their e-readers,” says Albanese. “They don’t have to go to the bookstore. They can make the font bigger. It’s convenient.”```


[26-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
those uneducated wastes of space and good oxygen **read**. How dare they.


[26-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Eris, why? A technical book explores a subject deeper than an article might. A fictional one is still good entertainment. And so on.


[26-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
the concept of it is certainly viable.


[26-Dec-19 09:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not everyone reads. The issue is the lack of time to read. What is your reading speed? Recently I returned to reading. It is addictive and distractive as fuck. I am not kidding.


[26-Dec-19 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
reading is the OG escapism route. According to studies I've read a while back, reading makes you 'experience' things move vividly than watching a movie or playing a video game (deep VR could surpass that but we're not there yet)


[26-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Agreed, "the books are better than movie", but I find it hardly immersive under normal conditions, unless reading in a specially arranged environment. It could be just me.

As for technical books, it is waste. Why? Because the information gets outdated and deprecated. And here we get to point "why books for university are expensive as hell".


[26-Dec-19 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
theory's still sound on many things. Reference manuals for actual complete products you have to support, yeah, those should be up to date and age poorly, but it's different.


[26-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
something like economics that fluctuates wildly over the decades and might or might not be 'the most accurate pseudoscience' accoding to some folk, yeah, I can see that. Natural sciences, math in it's many forms, those, by and far, still seem pretty legit.


[26-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder, how is reading common compared to gaming?


[26-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well nobody's trying to identify them as a reader, unfortunately :P


[26-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
although, I'm curious myself. Most likely it varies significantly by region, but still.


[26-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If we take reading and gaming as entertainment scenes, why we have indie games, but not indie books?


[26-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
well, on physical level it's probably nigh-impossible to get a book sale contract bypassing a publisher


[26-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Well, on digital scene


[26-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
on the Net... hmm. Well I guess if you count gigantic fanfiction as a book (they certainly are by size, content type and general quality), we have that. Even we as in pony fandom. It still stumbles on the issue of exposure, so they're generally free, but there have been people trying and succeeding to print their works and sell physical copies.


[26-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
selling digital product like a book would come easier as a donation in the process of writing. Although I've noticed, generally fic donations don't generate anything close to visual art.


[26-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
donation is essentially a pay-what-you-want sale of a product, finished or otherwise.


[26-Dec-19 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
or some historical works, I've seen people I've been following on youtube writing, contract printing and selling their stuff, maybe bypassing a publisher.


[26-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I think, time required to consume media affect number of consumers. How long does it take to consume visual art? How long does it take to read a book?


[26-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that too. And probably less cathartic because of it.


[26-Dec-19 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sunnyside it's my constitution-given right to tell christians to eat cocks


[26-Dec-19 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if christians didnt keep trying to produce suppression and oppression laws, they wouldnt have all this fight back on their hands


[26-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well that's not the debate. what's being discussed is the underreporting of murders of Christians and vandalism of christian property.


[26-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Opponent There was a very funny case of "conveyor" literature. Easy to finish in few hours, the books look same, released too fast for the volume to be able to typed by human being... It turned out that the books we AI generated, mixed with jokes stolen from the internet.


[26-Dec-19 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[26-Dec-19 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it usually takes me a good month to get through a book because i tend to read them during breaks


[26-Dec-19 09:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I do, but it breaks the immersion for mw. It should be done in a single seat.


[26-Dec-19 09:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless the author includes breaks and splits by day in-book


[26-Dec-19 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the books i read are very long


[26-Dec-19 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i tried to read red rising in a single sitting i would likely be there for 12 hours


[26-Dec-19 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there really underreporting


[26-Dec-19 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, just think about all the mass murders and bombings and lynchings there are are in south west asia and the middle east that just get a page 7 blurb


[26-Dec-19 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted i will sit there for hours reading if you let me, though big adventures are very long

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[26-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"35 shot dead leaving temple, and now look at this cute puppy that finally caught its tail"


[26-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same old shit


[26-Dec-19 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
"waaah like 2,000 Christians get murdered a year for being Christians AND WHAT IF IT'S TWICE THAT"


[26-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, a country is genociding like 10,000 muslims a week


[26-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole goal here isn't to get us to care about other people


[26-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda) Do they include breaks in these adventures? I've read red strom rising and it is indeed long.


[26-Dec-19 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's to get us to care about only the chosen, correct kind of people


[26-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
by focusing on their struggles over those of DEM FILTHY MUSLIMS etc.


[26-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile Joe McFuckerson trips down some stairs in SoCal and its front page news about how california regulations about step height and hand rails are now proven to be a waste of taxpayer money


[26-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives love to pretend to actually care about other people, it's how they try to get liberals on board with shit


[26-Dec-19 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
YOU HATE ISRAEL HOW HEARTLESS YOU ANTI SEMITE etc.


[26-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Эᴚ|∫ typically yeah, the books span in universe months or years, also

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[26-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, China has literal internment camps


[26-Dec-19 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good book i highly reccomend it


[26-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and forced marriages to dilute the population


[26-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
but shhhh, we're just supposed to pretend that the only bad stuff China does is take too much territory


[26-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh, I thought it was Tom Clancy one. But taking shorter stories, like world of watches. Events are unfolding too quickly to take breaks.


[26-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, the Middle East DOES fukk up Christians


[26-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
you know who they fukked up to the point that there are none left in most middle eastern countries?


[26-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jews


[26-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Decades ago


[26-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
There used to be Jews in Iraq


[26-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives didn't say a fukking peep about the persecution, and just whistled and carried on as people were forced to flee to Israel and the west.


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oil tho


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, not even


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
consider what I'm talking about


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
A muslim majority pushing out a minority


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
into a country created just for that minority


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
segregation by country by religion


[26-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
THIS IS WHAT CONSERVATIVES CONSIDER IDEAL


[26-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could take the oil away and they'd still love it.


[26-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the Jews fenced off in one country forever hating the Muslims


[26-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, I can't believe Trump got impeached because Rudy tricked him into lobbying for US to sell gas to Ukraine through some sleazes

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[26-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What a world


[26-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, that Jewish country trying to genocide Arabs that dare liv where they've lived for centuries.


[26-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a conservative wet dream.


[26-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone in their proper boxes, but in a way that leads to genocide of the lesser of the lessers.


[26-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, you might say "wouldn't they want Christians rounded up and pushed out by the majority too?", but that's the spreading exception


[26-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The most desired, chosen group is wanted to always hav a presence, so that it can influence/spread.


[26-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
well Israel a country itself is an exception.


[26-Dec-19 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the eventual goal to push out Muslims etc.


[26-Dec-19 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but isreal is a box ~kept in check~ by being surrounded on all sides by countries that want it dead


[26-Dec-19 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every middle east country despises eachother


[26-Dec-19 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and on a much harder note, each country hates certain communities within themselves


[26-Dec-19 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
israel is not being kept in check


[26-Dec-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the US has strong alliances with israel and a military presence there


[26-Dec-19 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
and implicitly condones basically whatever they do


[26-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
drawing borders in straight lines along the map of a region mostly populated by nomads will do that.


[26-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
they evolved past nomads, but never past division.


[26-Dec-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think the US would stop supporting Israel even if it turned out they were literally holding hundreds of thousands of muslims in concentration camps


[26-Dec-19 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
which is not beyond belief for the netanyahu govt


[26-Dec-19 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
in fact that'd be kind of like a US wet dream wouldn't it


[26-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, not as long as they kept the dirty muslims from controlling Bethelem, I guess


[26-Dec-19 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah good point


[26-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're kept divided on purpose.


[26-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every major country wants to control the resources


[26-Dec-19 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
by either puppeting, invading, or otherwise screwing up the countries overtop those resources in the region.


[26-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Syria didn't form a giant terrorist organization and go into one of the messiest (in terms of territorial ownership and political affiliations) wars in history by chance.


[26-Dec-19 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It had oil.


[26-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we could totally be fixing the starvation etc. in Afghanistan, but that would cost money, and make them politically independent.


[26-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conditions like these exist because politicians want them to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gBKaBzR8U0

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[26-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
well, Afghanistan case is less 'don't want' (although probably that too), and more 'can not' (with a side of 'don't know' if the shared sentiment is to be believed)


[26-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
anything's possible leveraging US resources of course. But it would hardly be worth it.


[26-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
"worth it"


[26-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So conservatives believe children should be sold, k


[26-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking this is your line.


[26-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a Modest Proposal.


[26-Dec-19 10:03 PM] Opponent#3498
well Nebbie to do that you have to change mentality of the people


[26-Dec-19 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not enough to feed them money. You would need to make the entire society, top  to bottom, to be better and less self-serving, i.e. better than actual US (which isn't starving because of many geographical reasons primarily)


[26-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
you _could_ do it but just imagine what a project like this would take.


[26-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
and then consider it's in ass end of nowhere on the doorstep of Russia


[26-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
No you don't


[26-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This has been seen time and time again


[26-Dec-19 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you improve education and access to healthcare


[26-Dec-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
people stop pumping out extra kids and treating them as things to ensure family survival, to be bought and sold


[26-Dec-19 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That woman didn't sell her daughter because of her MENTALITY, she did it because it was the ONLY FUKKING WAY TO GET FOOD


[26-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop blaming people's fukking problems on them just being of poor moral character


[26-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same shit over and over and over again with this "they're just scummy people by nature, cause uh...they're arabs!"


[26-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like there's some hardcoded DNA in Arab people that makes them want to abuse their wives and sell their children as sex slaves.


[26-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basic sociology tells us that people tend to do whatever it takes to survive in terms of families.


[26-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
These droughts and famines and wars are what CAUSES people to treat their kids horrifically.


[26-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
all of it takes time Nebbie.


[26-Dec-19 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
money, effort, over time.


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you could improve their infrastructure and supply food aid, they'd overnight reduce the amount of shittiness.


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in a few decades, it would be almost entirely gone.


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
it will do nothing over a decade. In a few decades you'll see an improvement.


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would've sure done something to that woman


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
She wasn't selling her kid cause she WANTED TO


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
She was doing it cause her family was STARVING


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
well US been there for what, 16 years? 18? In an already hostile, divided, environment, it would make the job harder.


[26-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you telling me she's lying?


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
with no long-term planning because there's no long-term planning _at home_.


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hear big talk, BIG talk from people about how child traffikking should end


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
forget foreign affairs.


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but when push comes to fukking shove


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
women sell their fukking kids to stay alive


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
and conservatives just...pretend it would've happened anyways


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
that there was nothing we could fukking do


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's how it is. Be thankful it's not you making the choice. I know I am.


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
YES THERE FUKKING IS YOU SHITTY SCUMBAG


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is NOT how it is


[26-Dec-19 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
that little girl did NOT need to be sold


[26-Dec-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That woman could've been given fukking food.


[26-Dec-19 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop being an asswipe and GROW A MORAL SPINE


[26-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't want to hear shit about "foreign affairs" or whatever the excuse is for saying we should sit bakk and just let this shit continue.


[26-Dec-19 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav the money, we hav the power.


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
We even got ourselves directly involved in the country's affairs.


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
To do what exactly? To rain fire on villages and pretend we won?


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't have a direction.


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm tired of conservatives saying that this is just how it is.


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop supporting child slavery.


[26-Dec-19 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
the only direction you seem to have is playing peacekeeper, ensuring there's never any peace and you seem needed.


[26-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the greatest US failing, as a government, against it's citizens (and maybe the world, though at different times consistency in foreign policy would mean very different things)


[26-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
China has a long-term plan. That makes them scary as balls.


[26-Dec-19 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
US does not.


[26-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not about moral decisions. To change the life of a nation, not an individual or a village (although village is already pretty big), you need to plan things out and commit to them. Does US do that?


[26-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should start by kikking out the fukking racists in charge who whine all day long about Christians being persecuted while Arab children get prostituted and murdered.


[26-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
what do they plan but occupation logistics?


[26-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we shouldn't be allowing Trump to direct our foreign aid to primarily benefit Christians instead of people who actually need help.


[26-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is a thing he's doing, btw


[26-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-mike-pences-office-meddled-in-foreign-aid-to-reroute-money-to-favored-christian-groups

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Officials at USAID warned that favoring Christian groups in Iraq could be unconstitutional and inflame religious tensions. When one colleague lost her job, they said she had been “Penced.”
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[26-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
and it's not like it's US unique failing, the lack of long-term cause politicians only care about what happens a few years out of their tenure, not even the entirety of it


[26-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
but I'd say US as a still-superpower is the only one where it matters for **others**


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and honestly even if your current democrats are in power, I don't think it changes.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and like most sweeping, fundamental changes, I don't see how it could be made to happen.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I lack vision I guess.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nuke D.C.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
but since it's not happening on it's own and I don't see artificial ways for it, I accept it. Morals or not.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
...well there's that.


[26-Dec-19 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it would certainly shake things up.


[26-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time there's a movie or show and it shows the destruction of the white house or the capitol as this great tragedy or an attack against the core values or AMERICA and all its people, I just want to scream at the screen


[26-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
it's intentionally shown like this, obviously.


[26-Dec-19 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I support this sentiment


[26-Dec-19 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't support killing in general


[26-Dec-19 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but loss isn't always bad

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[26-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/12/26/president-buttigieg-and-other-not-entirely-serious-predictions-for-2020/

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Though last year’s annual not-totally-serious forecast missed by predicting Ivanka Trump would become White House chief of staff and Vladimir Putin would...
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[26-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Funny to read


[26-Dec-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
there is a nontrivial amount of americans who will never vote for buttigieg because he's gay


[26-Dec-19 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
(assuming it came to that in the general)


[26-Dec-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't want buttigieg to win, mind you


[26-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a nontrivial amount of Americans who will vote for Buttigieg because they heard he made sure those 1000 houses in 1000 days went mostly to white people as he neglected the poor/minority areas of South Bend.


[26-Dec-19 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
but if that's what it comes to I will vote for the shitty neoliberal instead of the conservatives who are fucking destroying the country


[26-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically he wins because Trump replaced Pence with Ivanka


[26-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
9000 votes in Indiana decide the election


[26-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is utterly impressive how many racist shits there are.


[26-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers cannot die fast enuff.


[26-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Democrats’ Buttigieg-Abrams ticket, riding a popular vote majority of 4.5 million votes, wins election with bare 270 electoral votes. Trump holds Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. But Democrats win Arizona’s 11 electoral votes and clinch election with Abrams’ Georgia (16) and Buttigieg’s Indiana (11), where analysts blame backlash over Trump dropping Pence for 9,900-vote Democratic margin. Trump, alleging widespread fraud, challenges Indiana result. Trump edges Buttigieg in Texas, but Democrats regain control of Texas House, 76-74. Democrats hold U.S. House and, in a surprise, gain three Senate seats, losing Alabama but winning Arizona, Colorado, Kansas and Maine. By winning the presidency, VP-elect Abrams gives Democrats control of 50-50 Senate."


[26-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like a likely scenario even without dropping Pence


[26-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was hated in Indiana.


[26-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pence needs to be impeached too btw


[26-Dec-19 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
first off, that aid thing is blatantly against the establishment clause


[26-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
second off, he classified evidence to protect Trump in the Ukraine scandal


[26-Dec-19 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
and is also implicated in the ukraine scandal


[26-Dec-19 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Weirdest thing in this is that there's a conspiracy theory that Buttigiegs family was involved in terrorism, but that's the silly part


[26-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or is president-elect Buttigieg picking Romney as SecDef


[26-Dec-19 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been living too long in a state where I wish I had a fast-forward button to get to the conclusion and spare me the pain

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[26-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
I wish that was an option. I really do.


[26-Dec-19 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
US news is fucking exhausting


[26-Dec-19 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
we can't go a single day without the president doing something retarded


[26-Dec-19 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Obama was a shitty president, but I fucking miss him


[26-Dec-19 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/47693e8cf0ee8328e82cd7ecd06d3df3

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You may have to give more personal data to get personal loan
Would you feel comfortable disclosing your bank account information on a personal loan application? What about your work history? Your college major? That’s what it could take to borrow...
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[26-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hat’s what it could take to borrow money from some loan companies that consider alternative data — which can be anything that isn’t in your credit report — when deciding whether to approve your loan application.

Companies that use the data say it helps them better evaluate applicants by giving them insight beyond a credit report, which usually shows things like your name, address, Social Security number, and current and past credit accounts.

But some consumer advocates say that while certain types of alternative data can be promising for consumers, others have the potential to reinforce existing racial and economic disparities and limit access to money for low- and middle-income people.


[26-Dec-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe at some level they will use it for that


[26-Dec-19 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
but my immediate prediction is that they are selling it to ad networks


[26-Dec-19 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably, that seems to be the best way to make bank right now


[26-Dec-19 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just sell private information to ad companies, that will get you millions!


[27-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh hey, one step closer to ~~China's social credit system~~ a completely normal society where nothing happens


[27-Dec-19 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.reddit.com/r/PrequelMemes/comments/ee5qfm/weve_come_full_circle/fbqgaaj/

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[27-Dec-19 02:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-laughed-at-for-twitter-attack-on-justin-trudeau-your-toupee-glue-is-rotting-your-single-digit-iq/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump laughed at for Twitter attack on Justin Trudeau: ‘Your tou...
Canadian networks airing the classic Christmas movie “Home Alone 2” drew attention for cutting out the scene in which Kevin gets directions from Donald Trump — a decision the networks have clarified had nothing to do with politics and was simply to format the movie for ...
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[27-Dec-19 02:31 AM] jlun2#8758
from the above  https://twitter.com/aWomanResisting/status/1210352109314625537/photo/1

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[27-Dec-19 02:35 AM] illumnious#7938
hue


[27-Dec-19 03:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>remove Trump from movie
>"no political motive here, it's just for ad space"


[27-Dec-19 03:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponythinking:


[27-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> You only got that cameo because you demanded it in exchange for using that location for shooting.


[27-Dec-19 03:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I should look into that some time


[27-Dec-19 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Dec-19 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/ee6o55/reddit_discloses_users_historical_ips_and_emails/

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Reddit discloses users historical IP's and emails to law enforceme...
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[27-Dec-19 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
good thing I have no leddit account


[27-Dec-19 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> in an emergency


[27-Dec-19 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically reddit TOS hasn't been violated, they did get a warrant (extremely quickly)... the concern appears to be over this kind of practice extending to political posts


[27-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Oh boy he fucked up. talking to the cops and signing paperwork without a lawyer.


[27-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Dec-19 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
I love the black marker that barely hides his personal information


[27-Dec-19 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
apparently some of that personal information hasn't been redacted at all


[27-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an affidavit tied to an arrest warrant


[27-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that shit is PUBLIC RECORD


[27-Dec-19 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can put marker over *your* copy all you want.


[27-Dec-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk sakes.


[27-Dec-19 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, wait, what's Connecticut's rule on this?


[27-Dec-19 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that 50 different court systems with no actual reason to hav different rules is dumb.


[27-Dec-19 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure it's the same for Connecticut cause it kinda has to be, but I can't easily verify that.


[27-Dec-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.redditinc.com/policies/guidelines-for-law-enforcement

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[27-Dec-19 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
> In accordance with 18 U.S.C. §2702(c)(4) and our Privacy Policy, Reddit may disclose limited user information if Reddit has a good faith belief that an emergency exists involving the imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to a person, and disclosure is required without delay.


[27-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[27-Dec-19 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
"in *accordance* with" means that they're using the law, not that they're required to do stuff by the law.


[27-Dec-19 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statute cited is essentially the same text as the rest of that guideline.


[27-Dec-19 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they're saying there is they're exercising legally-granted ability to throw info to the authorities if they think there's an emergency.


[27-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd

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A halberd (also called halbard, halbert or Swiss voulge) is a two-handed pole weapon that came to prominent use during the 14th and 15th centuries. The word halberd is most likely equivalent to the German word Hellebarde, deriving from Middle High German halm (handle) and bar...
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[27-Dec-19 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
> The halberd was inexpensive to produce and very versatile in battle. As the halberd was eventually refined, its point was more fully developed to allow it to better deal with spears and pikes (and make it able to push back approaching horsemen), as was the hook opposite the axe head, which could be used to pull horsemen to the ground. A Swiss peasant used a halberd to kill Charles the Bold, the Duke of Burgundy, decisively ending the Burgundian Wars in a single stroke. Researchers suspect that a halberd or a bill sliced through the back of King Richard III's skull at the Battle of Bosworth.


[27-Dec-19 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
anti-nobility and anti-royalty weapon


[27-Dec-19 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
halberds are the pinnacle of melee weaponry, the only reason their use died out is because firearms started to overtake them


[27-Dec-19 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pointy bois, for when those shits paid in gold need taken off their literal high horse.


[27-Dec-19 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bUFM5d0Pd3rL50HkbHR4kx_jiICBCVDuRYD3Dzuh56GhAUdFW9VGUbPq9O-_a8P5oZfblXRj2zEGsiiuAtQY5rggThTfJUMUYn593HhgX5sVUkKDEDPUToClnQXIcrRtRClszA=s2070

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[27-Dec-19 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
why is slapping women such a common occurrence in old timey comics


[27-Dec-19 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it was a societal norm back then i'm assuming


[27-Dec-19 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/slap-history-hysteria-treatment-films-ahed-tamim-israel-soldiers-women-groundhog-day-a8189896.html

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How the slap moved from a treatment for hysteria to political conf...
In the 19th century, the slap was considered a beneficial treatment... perhaps it’s time to move on
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[27-Dec-19 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
backthen hysteria was treated with slaps and in comic books it was mostly women experiencing hysteria because that's how women were portrayed in media


[27-Dec-19 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was also a common thing with young male characters as well


[27-Dec-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like robin or jimmy olsen


[27-Dec-19 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not sure why the 19th-20th century was so gung ho about treating medical problems with violence, but there ya go


[27-Dec-19 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's pretty effective at getting people to stop what they're doing or thinking of, unless they're having an epileptic fit


[27-Dec-19 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, sharp pain to the face is a very effective distraction


[27-Dec-19 04:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-busted-for-ridiculous-new-lie-about-fluorescent-light-bulbs/

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Trump busted for ridiculous new lie about fluorescent light bulbs
Daniel Dale, CNN’s seemingly tireless Trump fact checker, has caught the president telling yet another falsehood. As Dale writes on Twitter, the president told supporters at a rally in Battle Creek, Michigan last week that energy efficient fluorescent light bulbs are bad be...
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[27-Dec-19 04:40 PM] Opponent#3498
kinda preaching to the choir here. Blues are against him no matter what he says, reds are for him no matter what he says, everyone else wants nothing to do with it, no matter what he says.


[27-Dec-19 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if we don't know all his lies now, we cant have a donald trump fact book published in the future


[27-Dec-19 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a book of facts made up about things they don't know about


[27-Dec-19 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
mm, fair.


[27-Dec-19 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will fit perfectly on the shelf with the coffee table book of all the cats movie reviews


[27-Dec-19 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/donald-trumps-5-most-appalling-scandals-of-2019/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Donald Trump’s 5 most appalling scandals of 2019
Donald Trump has often been described as the most scandal-ridden U.S. president since Richard Nixon, yet in many respects, he is worse — more vindictive, more corrupt, and even quicker to demonize his enemies. Just when one Trump-related scandal starts to disappear from the...
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[27-Dec-19 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-retweeted-qanon-hashtag-to-his-68-million-followers-2019-12

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Trump just retweeted a 'QAnon' conspiracy theory hashtag to his 68...
Followers of QAnon believe the world is run by a satanic cabal of elites and pedophiles led by Hillary Clinton and the deep state.
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[27-Dec-19 06:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-home-alone-2/?os=dd

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Claire Goforth
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Trump fans lose their minds over him getting cut from 'Home Alone 2'
Canadian Broadcasting Corp. cuts President Trump's 'Home Alone 2' cameo, giving rise to wild conspiracy theories that it was removed for political reasons
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[27-Dec-19 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh before this I didn't even realise he was there.


[27-Dec-19 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
one day I'll rewatch it, got real curious now.


[27-Dec-19 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen versions with him cut for ages on TV


[27-Dec-19 06:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like 5 seconds after a scene cut, good place for commercials to snip snip


[27-Dec-19 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he appears for a few seconds because the kid stayed in trump tower for a scene or 2, so he got to cameo.


[27-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Him getting a cameo was part of the contract if they wanted to shoot in the location


[27-Dec-19 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[27-Dec-19 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo specifics, but disney now owns home alone 2 so scene cuts could be them distancing away from political drama despite no one really making that connection of that time period


[27-Dec-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for tv, yeah ad break cut. it;s such a small and insignifigant cameo no one even notices it was cut for tv


[27-Dec-19 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people only really notice now because he's the president


[27-Dec-19 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
look at that stopid wall https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1210573046198624257?s=20

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[27-Dec-19 06:35 PM] illumnious#7938
welp https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1202666193301037057

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We could've bolstered healthcare but Republicans spent our tax dollars on this impenetrable wall instead.

Way to go.
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[27-Dec-19 06:35 PM] illumnious#7938
that didn't work


[27-Dec-19 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well to be fair, he didnt penetrate the wall, he went over it. so i guess technically it;s impenetrable


[27-Dec-19 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-things-have-changed-for-billionaires-in-the-past-year-2019-12

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Public perception has increasingly shifted out of billionaires' favor amid growing income inequality.
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[27-Dec-19 06:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
they should have consulted the guys who made and maintained the berlin wall


[27-Dec-19 06:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc he also said it was unclimbable


[27-Dec-19 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure Berlin wall only worked as intended because of MG nests on top.


[27-Dec-19 06:58 PM] Opponent#3498
and being really rather small in length.


[27-Dec-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The nests weren't on the wall


[27-Dec-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
well, still. Pretty densely manned, active protection.


[27-Dec-19 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
not just a wall in a middle of nowhere.


[27-Dec-19 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They were on small towers overlooking the no mans land filled with razor wire and mines


[27-Dec-19 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still a few of them left


[27-Dec-19 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was also a river


[27-Dec-19 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So the parts away from gates, you'd have to go through a razorwire topped fence, through minefield covered with razorwire guarded over by towers with MG nests and spotlights, through a fairly wide river, then a bank with more razorwire, and finally the wall, painted white so the spotlights would catch anything


[27-Dec-19 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think the US has enough people in the army to cover half the wall to similar effect


[27-Dec-19 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, the concept gets more ridiculous in comparison to the examples that worked than on it's own.


[27-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
people are cutting through the wall with gas powered concrete saws


[27-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
so it's definitely not impenetrable either


[27-Dec-19 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a really fucking stupid waste of money


[27-Dec-19 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's entirely a corner cutting show of force to make an example to minorities and an empowerment to supporters


[27-Dec-19 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/_Rewhan/status/1210292863767990272

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[27-Dec-19 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know what will make employees more productive? stripping lunch breaks and making the toilet a vertical chute!


[27-Dec-19 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we'll call it a crap chute and itwill just be a big hole in the ground!


[27-Dec-19 07:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Employers will just gamify things


[27-Dec-19 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, a lot of the stuff they keep tabs on already, but make it public competition


[27-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Scoreboards for delivering stuff earlier than the estimate, public red stickers for getting to a meeting late, some cheap reward for some massive accomplishment or milestone, and of course, a kudos board


[27-Dec-19 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where people give kudos to other employees and people +1 them


[27-Dec-19 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
👍


[27-Dec-19 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont forget that your paycheck is now replaced with funco pop


[27-Dec-19 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That'll come with larger corps


[27-Dec-19 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where part of your paycheque is in a secondary type of shares, or in something the company produces


[27-Dec-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you may not have a home anymore, but atleast you have a mountain of *fun*


[27-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We may only pay you 800 a month, but you get 20% discount coupons at our store and a free weekly breakfast at McDingles!"


[27-Dec-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your christmas bonus is a funco pop advent calendar


[27-Dec-19 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>christmas bonus


[27-Dec-19 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you work really hard we may even give you funco pop sets!


[27-Dec-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like a raise


[27-Dec-19 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget, outside of inflation the cost of living increases by 10% each year, while salaries increase by 1.8% or so


[27-Dec-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i wonder why i'm stressed all the time


[27-Dec-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but don't worry, with ther amazon boxes you've likely amassed, you caN probably build a house of cardboard!


[27-Dec-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cardboard is weatherproof, right? That;s what the poors build their houses out of, isnt it?


[27-Dec-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MessageFromLen/status/1210598206293397505

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Dear nations of the world, the self-proclaimed “human rights professor” is asking you to trust the security of your cargo to the #PiratesofHormuz. You can #HOPE for the best, or you can commence rolling on the floor in laughter at this ridiculous proposal. https://t.co...
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[27-Dec-19 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
what the fuck


[27-Dec-19 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Wut


[27-Dec-19 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
duck dynasty is a pirate drama now?


[27-Dec-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone needs to be thrown the fukk out of office https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/26/21038257/electric-bikes-scooters-veto-illegal-new-york-andrew-cuomo-ban

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He just vetoed a bill that was overwhelmingly passed in June
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[27-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
He just did a completely pointless veto (takes 2/3rds to override, so if they revote the same way, veto is gone) because he decided that, you know what, I'm not ACTUALLY for electric scooters, that shit would hurt insurance money.


[27-Dec-19 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that India will instantly become a global superpower in five days from now

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[27-Dec-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm gonna need more than a casual reminder for that one


[27-Dec-19 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck?


[27-Dec-19 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"India as a Population Superpower
It is expected that, in 2020, the average age of an Indian will be 29 years, compared to 37 for China and 48 for Japan; and, by 2030, India's dependency ratio should be just over 0.4. This provides the nation with a large workforce for many decades, helping in its growth.
Appointed By (if Position is Appointed): Narendra Modi"


[27-Dec-19 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want to say this is good news, but right now it;s government has declared holy war so it;s experiencing a population fracture at the moment


[27-Dec-19 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
india is also infamous for mob style vengeance, so this could turn into outright mob hunts


[27-Dec-19 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
as long as they hunt each other, they don't hunt anyone else, so, god's speed or whatever equivalent.


[27-Dec-19 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's kind of the thing, there's been a rash of mob vigiliantism against foreign tourists falsely accused of crimes in recent years


[27-Dec-19 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the mobs dont look for evidence, they jsut hear aboutthe possible suspect of a may have happened crime, and go on the attack


[27-Dec-19 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
OG court of public opinion


[27-Dec-19 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
well, again, that kills thier tourism - good, people should talk more about this kind of thing.


[27-Dec-19 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
let them turn into the slum of the world if they want ti so much.


[27-Dec-19 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nyt-video-of-navy-seals-talking-about-chief-gallagher-2019-12

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The New York Times published video of Navy SEAL Team 7 members discussing accusations against Specials Operations Chief Edward Gallagher.
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[27-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
well, if people like that call someone evil internally... One shudders to imagine.


[28-Dec-19 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had a habit of sniping non warzone civilians for fun out of boredom


[28-Dec-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his team mates had to sabotage his equipment to protect people


[28-Dec-19 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably did a bunch of other shit too but i;m mostly going off the 2 main things brought up in his trial


[28-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just to protect people, themselves too


[28-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
a sniper sniping non-targets a bunch draws attention


[28-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like a GOP war hero


[28-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
which then means that your team is in danger.


[28-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maverick lone wolf shooting darkies


[28-Dec-19 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I expect a movie about this guy within a year


[28-Dec-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump meanwhile continues to parade him around liek anational hero while the navy fights this shit to put an end to war criminals


[28-Dec-19 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
Is this the scum what Trump pardoned


[28-Dec-19 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[28-Dec-19 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
vile


[28-Dec-19 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump wants him, the navy does not


[28-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
wow. Okay.


[28-Dec-19 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Starts off with him in an ambush dragging some pussy-ass city kid out of harms way, comes back to the media hating him, PTSD and dream flashbacks to war zone interspersed by an overly dramatic trial with some x-berg named attorney gunning for him


[28-Dec-19 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yes, Trump exonerated him or whatever the term is, and some navy higher up got sacked for trying to stop it


[28-Dec-19 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everyone that's served has said this guy is a piece of shit and should be in a prison cell, but Trump's base wants a statue of him at every street corner


[28-Dec-19 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something something WeLL aT LEast TRuMp StiCKs tO hIS GUns unLIKe LIbErAls!


[28-Dec-19 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ol' eddie will likely be speaking at plenty of trump 2020 rallies


[28-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the guy who threatened to murder people if they snitched on him


[28-Dec-19 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly, there were 2 other war criminals who got pardoned as well


[28-Dec-19 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1210606553373396993

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In its latest open letter to its members, the Junior Police Officers Association accused #HongKong’s peaceful protesters as being accomplices to violent protests, and claimed they would all be arrested one day.

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[28-Dec-19 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
they will be.


[28-Dec-19 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's literally only a matter of how long it takes and what it costs China.


[28-Dec-19 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Operation Climb Victoria Peak


[28-Dec-19 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point they'll just say anyone who voted for a party opposed to mainland rule is an accomplice.


[28-Dec-19 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When will Boris Johnson reconquer Hong Kong


[28-Dec-19 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean sell it to Russia


[28-Dec-19 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia has waited 500+ years for a true warm water port


[28-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're not letting another one go


[28-Dec-19 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like in EU4 when they colonize Indonesia


[28-Dec-19 03:42 AM] illumnious#7938

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[28-Dec-19 03:43 AM] illumnious#7938
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[28-Dec-19 04:25 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7830283/amp/Teenager-19-kills-paedophile-priest-abused-ramming-crucifix-throat.html

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Teenager, 19, kills 'paedophile priest who abused him'
Alexandre V, attacked 91-year-old Catholic priest Roger Matassoli while working at the holy figure's home in Agnetz, Oise. The priest is alleged to have abused at least four boys between 1960 and 2000.
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[28-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[28-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
We liv in a society.


[28-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duncan Hunter spent $1302 of the campaign funds he embezzled on Steam games.


[28-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's enuff to buy like half of the train simulator DLC.


[28-Dec-19 06:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie then they blame video games for tempting him instead of the politician right


[28-Dec-19 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/us/navy-seals-edward-gallagher-video.html

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Anguish and Anger From the Navy SEALs Who Turned In Edward Gallagher
Video interviews and group texts obtained by The Times show men describing their platoon leader in grim terms.
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[28-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly the problem wasn't really war crimes or his choice of targets or anything like that. The problem was, he was a crappy leader.


[28-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Opponent#3498
they even stress it. Standard policy is silence. I.e. what would be called the war crimes is the norm, it's never reported because tradition.


[28-Dec-19 07:04 AM] Opponent#3498
but this guy was bad for the team.


[28-Dec-19 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
where the hell did you get that from? it literally says he stabbed and killed a sedated captive and then held an impromptu re-enlistment ceremony over the captive's corpse, then practically ordered his team to pose for pictures (there's a photo of that in the article)


[28-Dec-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't go into details in that article, but the "shoot civilians" part was him sniping random civilians in a non-combat zone


[28-Dec-19 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
basically, imagine if someone took a sniper rifle into a random city and started shooting people randomly because it was "fun"


[28-Dec-19 10:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Kazakhstan had to rename its capital to get its longtime "president" to step down


[28-Dec-19 10:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which would be like if we exchanged Trump conceding the 2020 election for DC being renamed "Trumptown" or something


[28-Dec-19 11:40 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow and all of that is fine, they just never talk about stuff like this. Because tradition. And normally it's 'safe'


[28-Dec-19 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
no, this sort of thing never happened before


[28-Dec-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
they broke their silence because of what happened


[28-Dec-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
they were only allowed to legally start talking after the fact


[28-Dec-19 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
they could've kept silent on it still


[28-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
```It is an unspoken rule among their teams that SEALs should not report other SEALs for misconduct. An internal investigation could close off choice assignments or end careers for the accusers as well as the accused. And anyone who reported concerns outside the tight-knit SEAL community risked being branded a traitor.

“In a perfect world, there would be no risk, but that is not where we are,” Rick Haas, a retired command master chief who served in the SEALs for 30 years, said in an interview with The Times. “The teams are now divided over this, like I’ve never seen happen before.”```


[28-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
```Some of the SEALs said they came to believe that the chief was purposefully exposing them to enemy fire to bait ISIS fighters into revealing their positions. They said the chief thought that casualties in the platoon would increase his chances for a Silver Star.```


[28-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
this second bit was part of what wasn't fine.


[28-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and it isn't, don't get me wrong.


[28-Dec-19 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
but nobody really gives a shit about those subhuman locals


[28-Dec-19 11:44 AM] Crow#5457
> The platoon members told investigators that they tried repeatedly to report what they saw, but that the chain of command above them was friendly toward Chief Gallagher and took no action. Finally, in April 2018, they went outside the SEALs to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. Chief Gallagher was arrested a few months later.


[28-Dec-19 11:45 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah, he was viewing them as beneath himself and expendable. They're not rank-and-file, thay couldn't stand this stuff.


[28-Dec-19 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Chief Gallagher retired from the Navy with full honors at the end of November, and has announced that he was starting a SEAL-themed clothing line.


[28-Dec-19 11:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it pays to be friends with leadership, especially with that of a country. Either he was before, or, right place right time.


[28-Dec-19 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it apparently pays to be a war criminal in a government run by a career criminal who only hires other criminals


[28-Dec-19 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also that shit is not the norm in the military, that was a few of his troops trying to rationalize his insanity and motives.


[28-Dec-19 12:28 PM] Opponent#3498
the line about 'nothing ever gets reported cause you destroy your career by doing so' wasn't the troops.


[28-Dec-19 12:29 PM] Opponent#3498
and it makes sense. Do whatever you want, as long as you do your job well and clean up after yourself.


[28-Dec-19 12:29 PM] Opponent#3498
he failed at both of those.


[28-Dec-19 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do whatever you want(as long as you're a high rank with a trident)


[28-Dec-19 03:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-study-finds-trump-tariffs-backfired-2019-12-27

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Fed study finds Trump tariffs backfired
A study by Federal Reserve economists found that President Trump’s initial round of trade tariffs in 2018 backfired on the U.S. manufacturing sector.
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[28-Dec-19 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.timesofisrael.com/russias-putin-accuses-poland-of-colluding-with-hitler/

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Putin accuses Poland of colluding with Hitler, anti-Semitism
Lashing Poland's envoy to Nazi Germany in 1939 as a 'bastard, anti-Semitic pig,' Russian leader slams East European states that equate Soviet occupation with Nazi crimes
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[28-Dec-19 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
```Resorting to bad language, Putin said a war-time Polish ambassador allegedly promised to put up a statue of Hitler in Warsaw for his pledges to send Jews to Africa.
“A bastard, an anti-Semitic pig, you cannot put it any other way,” Putin said, referring to what he said were the diaries of the Polish ambassador in Germany, apparently in reference to Józef Lipski, who served as ambassador in Berlin from 1934 to 1939. 
“He expressed full solidarity with Hitler in his anti-Semitic views,” the Russian leader said. ```


[28-Dec-19 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[28-Dec-19 04:35 PM] ononim#8141
le broken clock has arrived


[28-Dec-19 05:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1210579085245779969

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[28-Dec-19 05:56 PM] ononim#8141
it hurts me knowing what it's real unedited video


[28-Dec-19 06:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ice Sculpture conservative melts in oven over oven chip advert.


[28-Dec-19 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear family? Time for a nuclear non-proliferation treaty.


[28-Dec-19 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
:twismug:

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[28-Dec-19 06:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He did get one thing right. Oven chips are shit.


[28-Dec-19 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-says-he-would-not-comply-subpoenaed-trump-impeachment-trial-2019-12

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Biden doubles down on prior comments regarding a hypothetical subpoena, saying "The issue is not what I did."
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[28-Dec-19 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4441ae68d14e61b64110db44f906af92

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US mass killings hit new high in 2019, most were shootings
The first one occurred 19 days into the new year when a man used an ax to kill four family members including his infant daughter. Five months later, 12 people were killed in a workplace shooting...
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[28-Dec-19 07:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
A mass kill a day keeps gun control away.


[28-Dec-19 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/79c7986478e5f455f2b281b5c9ed2d15

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UN gives green light to draft treaty to combat cybercrime
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution Friday that will start the process of drafting a new international treaty to combat cybercrime over objections from the...
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[28-Dec-19 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Russia said "oh, you're doing stuff, and about to come up with a report on a new treaty? Well then...LET'S MAKE A NEW TREATY FIRST!"


[28-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what obstruction by any means looks like.


[28-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
it's what they do


[28-Dec-19 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
it's what they're good at, when they're not flat out ignoring you


[28-Dec-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1210978527518117889

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As expected, 69% want car tunnels! Stop whining, subway Stalinists, the people have spoken …
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[28-Dec-19 07:22 PM] ononim#8141
Bruh


[28-Dec-19 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
bruh


[28-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
``` subway Stalinists```


[28-Dec-19 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm sorry what?


[28-Dec-19 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He... he literally described a subway with that poll question


[28-Dec-19 07:26 PM] ononim#8141
No no no TSP


[28-Dec-19 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
well I assume he _meant_ cars. But that was never explicitly mentioned.


[28-Dec-19 07:26 PM] ononim#8141
It was obviously Tesla single user car tunnels™!


[28-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the tunnel where one car at a time slowly moves through it under its own power when he promised rocket sleds


[28-Dec-19 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like it


[28-Dec-19 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/5af3155db9f2e2827ccb2e340bc56e7e

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Massachusetts' marijuana shops report $420M in sales in 2019
BOSTON (AP) — Recreational marijuana shops in Massachusetts raked in more than $420 million in sales in the first full calendar year of legalization, according to new state data. The data...
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[28-Dec-19 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since Musk's loop shenanigans have come up: https://youtu.be/4dn6ZVpJLxs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dn6ZVpJLxs
Elon Musk's "Loop" - It's bad, folks
go ahead. keep screaming "Elon Musk Is A Genius " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse

Cat-bus:
http://www.cat-bus.com/2017/12/gadgetbahn/

Pedestrian Observations:
https://pedestrianobservations.com/2017/12/15/elon-musks-ideas-about-transportation-are-boring/

The intro m...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4dn6ZVpJLxs/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder why is it that LeftTube by and large is composed of people, listening to whom you truly embrace life as suffering.


[28-Dec-19 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
negative amount of charisma


[28-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/28/politics/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-twitter/index.html

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Trump attacks whistleblower in now-removed tweetstorm full of rant...
President Donald Trump retweeted an attack that included an unsubstantiated name of the intelligence community whistleblower at the heart of the Ukraine scandal as part of a series of rants and conspiratorial posts overnight.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191224103336-trump-maralago-1-super-tease.jpg


[28-Dec-19 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not surprising


[28-Dec-19 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good thing there are several archival sites for all his twits


[28-Dec-19 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm waiting for the alleged whistleblower to not even be the right person


[28-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And also when it comes out more, for them to be brutally murdered.


[28-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because that's what the GOP wants


[28-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Charisma gets you undeserved attention which is good for fascist alignment.


[28-Dec-19 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hence right wingers with smooth voices and tons of energy get all over YT


[28-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
People with less charisma need actual logic etc., which has no place in alt right giant circlejerks about how some unconstitutional bill provision is MARXIST because it would giv some privileges to ILLEEEEEEGAAAAAALS


[28-Dec-19 09:01 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[28-Dec-19 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again you know what this anti intelligence community shit will lead us to?


[28-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
10 years from now we'll be wondering how a terrorist attack worse than 9/11 happened


[28-Dec-19 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism loves an uneducated populace that doesn't listen to reason.


[28-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
there's probably an easier explanation


[28-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
if they could they'd go right wing and make money.


[28-Dec-19 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
they can't.


[28-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
well, embrace your limitations and settle for the second choice.


[28-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But both sides clearly do make money from YT uploads


[28-Dec-19 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right just has more videos, and according to studies, they seem to hav more audience participation as the main difference


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
YT uploads are a pathetically small amount. It's something, but only barely just.


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've noticed the "American Corbyn" thing for Sanders is already dying down


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
you need patreon to actually make it worth it


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
or any alternative


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
twitch is good if you manage it, not easy by any means.


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the question is why leftist channels are less charismatic


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or raid shadow legends


[28-Dec-19 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's a matter of greed.


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
High charisma just makes things work without needing as much actual content.


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anger is what works


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Leftists want information.


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People respect right wing anger but not left


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Righties almost invariably want feelings.


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now of course, leftists want *compassion* too, which is a feeling


[28-Dec-19 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
but not one that makes for good video content.


[28-Dec-19 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if you're doing YT, you shout like Hitler and get everyone riled up against immigrants, or you become a nerd and explain what tunnels are.


[28-Dec-19 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, most left wing videos are informative and go for the appeal of people looking for information and clarity. a lot of right wing videos go for anger, reaction, and occasionally a mocking tone that appeals to people who hate other people


[28-Dec-19 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the left has almost no anger.


[28-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not to say it's good to be without anger, it's just, it's very hard to sustainedly draw up anger on the left.


[28-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The left's version of anger is that someone's dying and we should help them, and fukk you all for not.


[28-Dec-19 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
a month later, that someone is dead and the problem is over.


[28-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right meanwhile is always angry at existential threats, and at people *being alive*


[28-Dec-19 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
That never ends.


[28-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
People don't respect left anger because at the end of the day they can just appease the left, and see it as "weak".


[28-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm sorry to butt in but I usually see more anger on the left than on the right.


[28-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right meanwhile gets respected because it's never appeased, it "doesn't cave" etc.


[28-Dec-19 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes I'm sure you see plenty of anger on "the left" from all those videos of an angry alt-right guy ranting about how leftists are clearly just buttmad.


[28-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That example I used earlier, about an unconstitutional bill provision, was in fact from a vid you linked.


[28-Dec-19 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Leftists will be angry when they get into power and people should remember that.


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
In which a guy went on about how Democrats are trying to usurp our democracy by opposing Republican efforts to violate federal/state separation of powers by federally mandating that states cannot allow their cities to allow noncitizens to vote in city elections.


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I mean its usually left leaning people that form twitter mobs, the left are the one's that formed antifa....

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[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Antifa is a spook.


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare anyone stand up to our glorious fourth reich amirite


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Barely fucking exists.


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're clearly just buttmad we can kill jews now


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh my god, the left formed a protest group! the horror


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're mad at a milkshake and not mass murder of Muslims by people raised on chans


[28-Dec-19 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean, the left has opinions that aren't "fascism is okay but I'll pretend not to like it while I dress up as Hitler"?


[28-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Clearly just buttmad.


[28-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that even fascists think some fascists were bad hence why they worship/joke about Pinochet


[28-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or like Franco


[28-Dec-19 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure those twitter mobs are basically equivalent to all the alt-right shooters we've had.


[28-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, they say a few twitter mobs are all it takes to shoot up a mosque.


[28-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And a synagogue if there's leftover lattes!


[28-Dec-19 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm positive that a few tweets about how it's bad to let the planet burn are totally the same intensity as when Trump says that people who report crimes should be executed for treason.


[28-Dec-19 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh no, people are voicing their displeasure en masse with trump via twitter, must be one of those violent twitter mobs!


[28-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav never seen sustained leftist anger on *anything*.


[28-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not even when SJUWs get involved.


[28-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you can hav fullon Anita Sarkeesian and she'll just sit there monotonely saying that a game is sexist.


[28-Dec-19 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly the sad thing here is common ground in hating billionaires


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't hav anywhere near the intensity of what you'll find on Fox News.


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Left does it because hoarding wealth and treating people like shit


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Right does it because Jews


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the right would do it without Jews.


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Coastal elite?


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Two of the richest men in the US are from Kansas.


[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
milkshakes can be dangerous. a cloudy milky white substance isn't always a actual shake. sometimes it can contain harmful chemicles or cement mix. which both have occured in the past.

but honesly i'm concerned for both mass shootings and assault by "shakes" its not a either/or thing.

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[28-Dec-19 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's popular right now and Trump's base etc. is pretty gullible and will vote in a millionnaire who promises to fight millionnaires.


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cement milkshakes was a lie.


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
MILKSHAKES CAN BE DANGEROUS


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
OH NO GUYS


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
IT'S AN ANTHRAX MILKSHAKE!


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
FEAR ANTIFA FEAR IT


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
IT'S WORSE THAN CAT BUTTS


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, you really are a joke.


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
who started the ebola thing way back when?


[28-Dec-19 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/Z646LWQ

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Fear it. Fear the cat butt.
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[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone panic.


[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This cat could be loaded with napalm.


[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`milkshakes can be dangerous` - psker 2019


[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could be the work of marxist spies.


[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
IT'S ABOUT TO SPRAY


[28-Dec-19 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ebola panic was likely started by panicing soccer moms. it;s always over protective parents that start these panics


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent you mean fearing a disease with no cure or vaccine (at the time) that makes people basically leak contagious water like crazy and had reached the west?


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure "people with fukking brains" started that one.


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what?


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now we hav a vaccine that's apparently 100% effective.


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right that ebola scare


[28-Dec-19 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because of the work people with fukking brains did, or rather the money they put into addressing the problem.


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Indoor cats always seem to want people to smell their ass.


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
in media space it seemed to appear suddenly, devolve into memes quickly and disappear just as suddenly (almost like if was clear the marketing campaign failed...)


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what was actually happening in Africa?


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People were dying at an OK rate


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a rapid plague.


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes because the media covered it in stages as it devloped


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
war, desease and famine, business as usual


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not business as usual


[28-Dec-19 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
three countries had a major outbreak of a contagious disease that could utterly wrekk anywhere it got into


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
three countries with burial practices that enabled its spread


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
and whose health systems were suddenly overwhelmed


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, so it was an actual threat.


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
fair enough.


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then after several months, it petered out.


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The media wasn't getting shots of hordes of bleeding and shitting africans marching north towards europe or boarding ships to assault america, or shots of cities littered with bloated rotting corpses


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So it became not-news


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
People were memeing while the WHO was actually in panic mode trying to figure out how to stop this shit before it eventually breaks containment.


[28-Dec-19 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what's going on *right now*?


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's another outbreak.


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
In an area where locals kill health workers.


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A densely-populated area, no less.


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now it's a race to vaccinate the surrounding areas in time to keep it from spreading.


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Problem is, anti-vax crowd


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They will want to fuck shit up


[28-Dec-19 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's thankfully a much lower danger of it causing trouble outside Africa...which is why the media is not freaking out.


[28-Dec-19 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media just does its usual reporting about how oh, some Africans died, no big deal.


[28-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media was doing its job with the major outbreak. Ebola had reached the US in multiple areas, but thankfully the individuals were found in time.


[28-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, it's just annoying that it went from nobody talking about an incurable horrible virus to OH WAIT SHIT


[28-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which I would ascribe directly to your sentiment about "war, desease and famine, business as usual"


[28-Dec-19 09:30 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that bit was confusing about it


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it appering out of thin air


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ebola was known in the 70s


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was hanging around Africa waiting to come in force


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody was working on a cure


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
because there was no money in curing random dying Africans in the middle of nowhere.


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
But people knew, very well, that if another outbreak happened


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
it could kill millions.


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then whaddya know


[28-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Suddenly a white guy catches it and the money flows in


[28-Dec-19 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
well, thanks for responding. I actually learned something today.


[28-Dec-19 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, Ebola's a very unique and interesting case as far as disease outbreak and response. Basically a modern, fast test of our ability to address new disease threats.


[28-Dec-19 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao milkshakes can be dangerous


[28-Dec-19 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well what makes you think they aren't?


[28-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
people can and have made chemical mixes into  things before.


[28-Dec-19 09:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
look at the acid attacks in the UK for example


[28-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guys guys


[28-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's possible


[28-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
to put explosives


[28-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
in eggs.


[28-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Egg on your face? That's basically terrorism.


[28-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guys putting eggs on faces of horrible scummy politicians? Worse than Hitler.


[28-Dec-19 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Definitely worse than the guy who shot a bunch of muslims up. Everyone knows guns can't be made into pipe bombs.


[28-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[28-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine your ideology being mad about Piss Christ nearly three decades on


[28-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pebble Punt is basically only anti Jew because he was circumcised and is mad about it.


[28-Dec-19 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nobody tell him that happened in America because of Protestant cultural morals in the Victorian Era


[28-Dec-19 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, you;re right. It might be an orange smoothie full of citric acid! Run politicians! run for your safety!


[28-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people throwing smoothies and milkshakes arent really planning much further than buy smoothie/milkshake from restaurant -> throw at person giving speech


[28-Dec-19 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside just throw pure acid then, no need to dress it all fancy as a milkshake


[28-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[28-Dec-19 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it people are goinbg to be throwing acid it likely wont be disguised as a milkshake


[28-Dec-19 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah and so far no one has had their face corroded because of a thrown milkshake so your fears are for now unfounded


[28-Dec-19 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Meanwhile, white supremacists murder Muslims en masse


[28-Dec-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone is murdering muslims en masse, it;s super fucked


[28-Dec-19 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but do go on how it;s equal to tweet storms against bad politicians


[28-Dec-19 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-hotel-rates-spiked-13x-last-weekend/

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Trump Hotel Room Prices Spiked 13x Last Weekend. We Finally Know W...
The exorbitant cost is evidence that hosting fundraisers at the Trump Hotel is one of the best ways to sell out the notoriously empty venue.
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[28-Dec-19 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Dec-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-puerto-rico-spending-bill-cut-medicaid-hurricane-corruption-a9252671.html

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Trump personally stepped in to cut health funding for Puerto Rico ...
President reportedly pulls majority of Medicaid funding from US territory despite congressional leaders reaching bipartisan agreement
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[28-Dec-19 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
in case you needed any more evidence that he was an immoral asshole


[28-Dec-19 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has such a punchable face it makes me want to breka my computer screen


[28-Dec-19 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[28-Dec-19 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Dec-19 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
right premise wrong conclusion


[28-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[28-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Worse take


[28-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hotter take re: Trump Hotel stuff


[28-Dec-19 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
nah that's the correct take


[28-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seize the businesses of people who are elected president and take the profits from them and put them in the national treasury


[28-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex everything Trump branded/owned would have its profits pay down the debt


[28-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Being president is the ultimate compensation.


[28-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Temporary Nationalization, basically


[28-Dec-19 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
second to byte there, that's the biggest problem of professional sport scene.


[28-Dec-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you;re saying we should buy satanic holiday cups? i approve


[28-Dec-19 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though not from starbucks


[28-Dec-19 11:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:badbacon: ☕ 😈


[29-Dec-19 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/poolsideconvooo/status/1210977283437146117?s=21

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americans are literally evil
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[29-Dec-19 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
what the actual fuck


[29-Dec-19 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
"If you think this is an anomaly. THINK AGAIN" says self-described marine-event, accidently accusing a large part of active duty service men and women as war criminals.


[29-Dec-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're brown children so it doesn't matter


[29-Dec-19 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only time people would care is if like, there were civil insurrection in Nebraska and the guy did this to a white kid.


[29-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
accidentally accusing? If it's as normal as he says it is, nobody would care.


[29-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
which is highly likely


[29-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, no.


[29-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know if it's likely or not.


[29-Dec-19 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I know there's no reason for it not to be.


[29-Dec-19 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could probably draw it up to Vietnam, where the US military was so lost on how to fight an asymmetrical war like it they literally fell back on, "Literally kill anyone and everyone with the slightest pretext". The US lost maybe 60,000 men, the Vietnamese people lost about 1,000,000 or more. And the narrative we never lost in Vietnam because of our K-D ratio still persists, and may be a strong motivator behind saying "killing civies randomly is normal!"


[29-Dec-19 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it's more than this. US is the one who decides what counts as war crimes.


[29-Dec-19 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
(as well as many other intentionally vaguely defined offenses)


[29-Dec-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well you literally can not try the US for war-crimes in the Hague.


[29-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
on top of that, the army is, apparently, still huge on keeping internal issues in if at all possible. The thing about the SEAL guy was about him being unfit for command, everything else got lumped in to make the case look stronger.


[29-Dec-19 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
We're immune on all levels


[29-Dec-19 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
least that's the strong impression I got.


[29-Dec-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, I don't think russians or chinese would act much different, so it's of no particular importance.


[29-Dec-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members%27_Protection_Act apparently our immunity to the hague international court began in 2002

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[29-Dec-19 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"ASPA authorizes the U.S. president to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court". This authorization has led the act to be nicknamed the "Hague Invasion Act".[3][4]

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[29-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
actually, while I can see chinese, trying to imagine russians being in a position like this is... difficult. Specifically, in our case the actual russian military personnel is, apparently, quite well-behaved.


[29-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's coming from reports of people who hate them


[29-Dec-19 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it helps if you speak the same language and is more or less the same nation I suppose.


[29-Dec-19 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Russians aren't without fault outside of Slav-landia. They're doing some intense shit of their own in Syria. But like all great powers they can distance themselves from the barbarity because it's all mercenaries acting on Russia's behalf. Same with the US and Blackwater.


[29-Dec-19 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's the same issue as in Libya where there's some twenty different powers operating in Libya indirectly through mercenaries or arms sales to the various Libyan mercenaries and now Erdogan wants to get involved now that his Jihadist paras are being kicked out of Syria.


[29-Dec-19 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I'd imagine things be significantly worse 'out there'.


[29-Dec-19 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd imagine if the intent is to annex the territory then you wouldn't want the local populace to be as against as you the literally anyone else whose just being kicked around for geopolitics.


[29-Dec-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unless you're Leopold II


[29-Dec-19 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Then it's massacre a large part of the native population time and holding everyone at the stone age for like, a century


[29-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Gonna go out on a limb and assume that Trump is also interfering with Flint getting water


[29-Dec-19 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well he's certainly not doing anything to fix it, at least


[29-Dec-19 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
the absence of water is a sign of weakness of character.


[29-Dec-19 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I can't tell if the lack of new news articles about Flint is down to the situation improving, or the poison water just becoming the normal after half a decade


[29-Dec-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
latter


[29-Dec-19 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon actually the company arma used to contract for was pretty much single handedly responsible for fucking the water supply in michigan


[29-Dec-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
and, surprise, is fucking the water supply in other states as well


[29-Dec-19 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
hooray for elevated lead in pittsburgh water


[29-Dec-19 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
welp


[29-Dec-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
french companies have no small part in killing poor people in the US


[29-Dec-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
sodexo runs our private prisons and feeds kids school lunches


[29-Dec-19 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
veolia "manages" the water supplies


[29-Dec-19 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I think those are the big ones


[29-Dec-19 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
le welp


[29-Dec-19 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Guillotine time


[29-Dec-19 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is so sad can we get a big rip


[29-Dec-19 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Imagine having to take water from your own local river, but the river has been so far polluted by the auto-industry you need to add stuff to the water to repress the pollutants, but as said stuff added gets into the pipes, it accelerates the deterioration of the lead pipes to the point the PPM of lead is far in excess of any standard what-so-ever.


[29-Dec-19 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
In local radio a lot of the narrative has shifted from the water itself, because it's more or less "fixed". The city either finished its pipeline to the lake or it switched back to Detroit water which is actually cleaner. But what's on the radio now are stories and discussion over the aftermath of the episode, meaning all the kids now who are suffering from behavioral issues caused by lead poisoning their brains. A lot of kids who were infants at the time are now kindergartners, and prone to violent outbursts. And there's older kids too, middle schoolers and high schoolers who were effected all the same.


[29-Dec-19 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
So it's much more, "What are the schools and community or aid programs doing, what can they do based on what they've tried, and what sort of resources should they get now"


[29-Dec-19 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
The issue is far from over, and the continuing health crisis from this will roll on for decades, life times.


[29-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
.aq @Sunnyside milkshakes can be dangerous. a cloudy milky white substance isn't always a actual shake. sometimes it can contain harmful chemicles or cement mix. which both have occured in the past.


[29-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@Sunnyside: milkshakes can be dangerous. a cloudy milky white substance isn't always a actual shake. sometimes it can contain harmful chemicles or cement mix. which both have occured in the past.).


[29-Dec-19 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's big brain time


[29-Dec-19 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, being circumcised without your consent is a pretty good reason to be mad, though being mad at jews in general is directing the blame at the wrong place


[29-Dec-19 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNixDlRoMvA

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[29-Dec-19 10:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c12be4ce54ec6953f6a2183c46af699d

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[29-Dec-19 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/27/791918119/at-amazon-warehouses-speed-comes-at-a-price

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Most of the Amazon warehouses analyzed in a recent study found that worker injury rates exceed the industry average. A former worker, hurt at a warehouse in Salt Lake City, still deals with pain.
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[29-Dec-19 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/amberjohnson-jimludema/2018/08/28/gravity-payments-dan-price-on-how-he-measures-success-after-his-70k-experiment/

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What motivates a CEO to set a $70,000 minimum wage? Gravity Payment's Dan Price walks through his motivations, and how he measures success, in this interview.
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[29-Dec-19 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
> However, along the way, I realized that I had a responsibility as a leader to also try to serve the people that I was working with every day, that were making all the sacrifices to benefit independent business owners. I responded by instituting a $70,000.00 minimum wage at Gravity Payments, to ensure that everybody that works at Gravity could have the basics covered and live a normal life without too much struggle, as long as they were reasonably smart with their money, and reasonably conservative in how they spent it.
> 
> Now, what I got back in return was better than anything I could have ever imagined, and was truly exciting and shocking in some ways. What I got back in return is, we went from instead of having zero first-time homeowners per year, now we have many first-time homeowners here at Gravity, and that is so exciting to me.
> 
> Secondly, our savings rate for things like retirement, for people at Gravity, almost tripled, and that was huge. But, the absolute best thing that I got out of instituting the living wage was, hearing about how we went from zero, or close to zero, first-time parents every year at Gravity, to now about 20 babies born to families here each year.


[29-Dec-19 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
hey conservatives, if you want more white babies, start telling companies to pay their employees liveable wages


[29-Dec-19 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
or, alternatively, if you do this, **the scourge of Life will spread.**


[29-Dec-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
The value of a person's labor is not relevant in a capitalist monopsony job market and they are unlikely to ever be paid the value of their labor


[29-Dec-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
People aren't underpaid and overworked just because the CEO wants to make more money


[29-Dec-19 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
It's a control tactic


[29-Dec-19 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
If your employee is too fucking poor to miss a sick day then they're going to come in when they're sick anyway and you have therefore demonstrated their subservience to you, the manager


[29-Dec-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
It is too easy to just focus on the cost factors (like "the CEO ordered these layoffs because the company is losing money and he won't get his bonus this year if he doesn't control it")


[29-Dec-19 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
when anyone with a brain knows that will probably destroy the company's profitability


[29-Dec-19 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a human factor too


[29-Dec-19 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
management doesn't just ask for, it _demands_ obedience until you are fired from the company or leave on your own


[29-Dec-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
they do this by instilling fear in employees


[29-Dec-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
fear of taking off work when sick


[29-Dec-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
fear of using vacation time productively to relax


[29-Dec-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
fear of being laid off based on arbitrary performance reviews


[29-Dec-19 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
and that's not capitalist in nature


[29-Dec-19 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
when you exploit someone's fears to keep them obedient, you are a fascist


[29-Dec-19 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
nothing more


[29-Dec-19 06:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well underpaying for the labor time exerted is also how revenues and profits are generated in the basic capitalist economy. The value of labor time spent by an individual can be further reduced through monotonizing it even more than it was before until someone is doing a single basic task so simple a monkey can do it. At this point the over all value of that part of the work is so low to be unaccountable, if minimum wage didn't exist. Mechanization could be used to expand the skill set of anyone so they can adopt a number of trades or a growing number of trades, but it's used as well to divide labor up so much people do more and more basic tasks until people just are not needed. As the labor pool also grows the less cost a manager or buisiness person can get for someone's time and effort, they have to underbid the next person

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[29-Dec-19 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
capitalism and fascism go hand in hand where you exploit the consumers of your product


[29-Dec-19 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
whatever it may be


[29-Dec-19 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but exploiting the producers is just a control tactic and is orthogonal (and generally detrimental, anyway) to the acquisition of further capital


[29-Dec-19 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
big eye roll here we go again... capitalism = fascism


[29-Dec-19 06:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
<Umberto Eco but with glowing eyes and smiling>


[29-Dec-19 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
do you honestly believe this drivel?


[29-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I get Nebbie


[29-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
he's got a purpose.


[29-Dec-19 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
he'll say whatever gets him there.


[29-Dec-19 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Wow look at all those big piles of straw


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not a 'yes' though.


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
My belief is not capitalism = fascism


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
If you understood what I wrote you'd know that's not what I'm arguing


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
your belief is you can find someone you hate


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
and apply EVERY SINGLE LABEL YOU CAN THINK OF


[29-Dec-19 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
whether it sticks or not


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
with a hammer and a file miracles happen.


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Damn who pissed in your cereal today


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
normally I don't care.


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I did none of the above


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I dunno why I do now.


[29-Dec-19 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
but it's like what the hell.


[29-Dec-19 06:25 PM] Macarou#9574
He literally said it is not Capitalist in nature to exploit those fears in his post though.


[29-Dec-19 06:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, the question that gets a default answer here is if the system is purposefully built to instill fear to exploit.


[29-Dec-19 06:26 PM] Opponent#3498
his answer is 'duh, obviously'.


[29-Dec-19 06:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1210750161174941696?s=21

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[29-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
mine is 'in american dream when one rises above the rest, the rest languish by default'


[29-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Macarou#9574

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[29-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Macarou#9574
How about you read it again


[29-Dec-19 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I can scroll up if I wanted to, but thanks for your concern.


[29-Dec-19 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
also thanks for backing up my argument.


[29-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Macarou#9574
I wasn't


[29-Dec-19 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I am completely unable to grasp what you are saying @Opponent


[29-Dec-19 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
well, you did *shrug*


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Macarou#9574
You think I did


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not that I get it and think it's wrong


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
anyone with eyes would.


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I literally don't know what you're saying


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Macarou#9574
Then I am blind.


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Macarou#9574
Apparently


[29-Dec-19 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
not much I can do to help it


[29-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Macarou#9574
Or did you mean Illiterate?


[29-Dec-19 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
@byte the fear isn't 'be all end all' like in a fascist regime. In fact, I would be very careful to label fearmongers as fascist because every government I know of does that, there's simply different things to fear depending on the country you live in. But that's not the point.


[29-Dec-19 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
the point is, the fear you get of all the bad shit that happens when you get fired (which I'd say is irrational, but I guess in US you can immediately turn homeless if you get fired so, fine, this isn't at all a common thing across the world btw) is a byproduct of a system designed to glorify and cater to 'those risen above the rest'.


[29-Dec-19 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
re: american dream. Be the best, get the best. Not be the best, be a loser.


[29-Dec-19 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
loser, I've found, is one of the greatest US insults that doesn't carry anywhere near as much weight in other languages, I wonder why that might be.


[29-Dec-19 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
does it make the system dehumanising and cruel? Yeah. Does it make it fascist? Why would it, there's nothing to support the idea. Can it be fixed without revolution? Yeah, probably, by raising the rock bottom standards to survivable, removing the mortal fear.


[29-Dec-19 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
the system would still be unfair, but much less cruel, generate much less discontent without changing at it's core.


[29-Dec-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
we're using different operational definitions of fascism


[29-Dec-19 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
neolib minmaxing is the problem. Not the system in and of itself


[29-Dec-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you seem to define it necessarily in terms of nation-scale regimes


[29-Dec-19 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I define it as any social entity controlled by fear-driven groupthink


[29-Dec-19 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
groupthink: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/637738890672734239/Psych_8.png

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[29-Dec-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
first one's right out. We're talking constant mortal fear here, what optimism. Second is out, failing to make an informed decision isn't the problem, the problem is lack of options. Inherent morality is... debatable, fear makes people selfish, so for them to consider 'greater good' as a concept in this situation is highly doubtful.

Direct pressure, yes. Self-censorship, yes. Illusion of unanimity is redundant if previous two conditions are met, but okay. Mindguards, okay. 

I left out stereotyped views because, well, US is living and breathing those as we speak, see party polarity. It transcends corporate working environment.


[29-Dec-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
basicly, this is either only 40% correct or, more likely, doesn't apply at all for any scope outside a nation.


[29-Dec-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
or a closed in-group within one.


[29-Dec-19 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
a religious sect would certainly apply.


[29-Dec-19 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
all of this is about a system designed to unite a group of people with a common idea. Also this leaves out a need for a strong leader to unite behind, very much not the case in corporate environment, notorious for the feeling of existing in a limbo, where the only one that matters is  your supervisor and fuck everything else.


[29-Dec-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
conceding then


[29-Dec-19 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
needed to give this more thought, didn't


[29-Dec-19 07:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/us/politics/trump-2020-trumpstock.html

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‘Nothing Less Than a Civil War’: These White Voters on the Far...
Deeply conservative, they organize online and outside the Republican Party apparatus, engaging in more explicit versions of the chest-beating seen at the president’s rallies.
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[29-Dec-19 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would say american businesses run on a cult like system than a fascist system


[29-Dec-19 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
forced positivity instilled in employees, morning cheer rituals, calling the business a family, making it so that if they disobey they get stripped of their reward (pay cuts), if they obey absolutely they get pay raises or a promotion, give them options forcertain opportunities but punish them for using them (sick days, vacation days, ect)


[29-Dec-19 07:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's still a lot of overlap there...especially when it is a cult of personality


[29-Dec-19 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[29-Dec-19 08:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't tell you how many times I've seen businesses like this where the founder/CEO is treated like a benevolent leader, revolutionary, and from whom all good things flow


[29-Dec-19 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how it was when i worked at wlamart


[29-Dec-19 08:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
walmart is a prime example


[29-Dec-19 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Walton was a revolutionary hero, we are his family! all hair the retail god of benevolent happenstance!"


[29-Dec-19 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea there is to instill an unearned sense of loyalty without proving yourself to your employees, get with the herd or get thrown tot he wolves


[29-Dec-19 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne there's the sporadic hours so even if you cant afford rent, you also cant get a second job because you don;t have well defined hours of availability because walmart gave you a scramble puzzle for a schedule


[29-Dec-19 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
businesses in america run themselves like cults and miniature countries


[29-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart worships its dead founder


[29-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even as the actual modern policies directly violate one of his main principles of how it was supposed to work.


[29-Dec-19 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
well if they ARE legitimately structured as cults and it's working, then most of my argument goes out the window.


[29-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, he wanted to not move products around, cause it confused the shit out of people and would lead to more accidents


[29-Dec-19 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a big reason Walmart originally got popular


[29-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
but now, with big data on their side, Walmart has extreme item rotation


[29-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's intended to confuse shoppers so they slow down, look at more stuff, buy on impulse


[29-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Walmart's customer base is aging, and getting poorer


[29-Dec-19 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of its employees are on food stamps and shop there, too.


[29-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho it pays above minimum in most states, the wage it pays is insufficient to liv off of even with discounts.


[29-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
But keep believing that Walmart just wants to help customers etc. etc.


[29-Dec-19 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Part of that worship involves the idea that unions etc. are evil because they get in the way of your SPECIAL relationship with customers


[29-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cult like structure is why walmart didnt survive in germany, it went against many labor laws and walmart refused to change


[29-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile america doesnt have these employee protection laws


[29-Dec-19 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and what protection laws we do have are being eroded


[29-Dec-19 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why walmart thrives, especially sicne there;s no law against predatory strategies of moving into towns and killing all their infrustructure that goes against the cult of walmart. shuttign down the walmart and building a far larger one outside the tax zone


[29-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny to me when people like complain about labor laws or people striking in comment sections on news sites


[29-Dec-19 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When they're on their lunch break/paid vacation/sick day


[29-Dec-19 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or it's 5 PM and they just left


[29-Dec-19 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or on smoke breaks


[29-Dec-19 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should do well to remember that unionizations are what made smoke breaks a thing :hopeless:


[29-Dec-19 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve also met plenty of people who would happily accept the reinstatement of child labor so they can send their children to make thme money


[29-Dec-19 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the fact that 'smoke' breaks exist instead of 'breaks' is a huge problem in and of itself.


[29-Dec-19 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
still, this is probably better than nothing


[29-Dec-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People used to smoke a _lot_


[29-Dec-19 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
state-supported mass addiction.


[29-Dec-19 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My parents went to high schools where the students had a smoking lounge


[29-Dec-19 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a room but still


[29-Dec-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone in my hvac class was addicted minus myself


[29-Dec-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everyone inmmy electricity classes


[29-Dec-19 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everyone i worked at wlamart with


[29-Dec-19 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
fun


[29-Dec-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-company-wins-licence-to-monitor-british-fishing-boats-5dk8wp6gr


[29-Dec-19 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Okay, this is epic


[29-Dec-19 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
sea of opportunity :derpchrys:


[29-Dec-19 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RepStevenSmith/status/1211124012753080322?s=20

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[29-Dec-19 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Americans are really confused that there are people in other countries that aren't ultranationalists, huh


[29-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
America is also the only country that is this obsessed with their flag I think


[29-Dec-19 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe the PRC


[29-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're not just confused, but mad.


[29-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something something SHE WANTS SOVIET UNION MUSLIM APOCALYPSE HILLARY OBAMA


[29-Dec-19 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Look at the replies.


[29-Dec-19 10:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
my immediate thought was https://satwcomic.com/evil-flag

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[29-Dec-19 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd rather have someone manhandle a flag than the Constitution.


[29-Dec-19 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dafuq does "manhandling" mean? In my whole twelve years of knowing the English language i never knew what it actually meant


[29-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it's weird seeing people you went to high school with that went nowhere always have the most far right views


[29-Dec-19 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 means like "abuse, handle poorly"


[29-Dec-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[29-Dec-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, just being clumsy with an object?


[29-Dec-19 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I thought it was something sexual


[29-Dec-19 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The usual line is "I'd rather have someone burn the flag than burn the Constitution"


[29-Dec-19 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Manhandle me in the ass daddy

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[29-Dec-19 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking without education, people simply want to preserve what little they hav, meaning reinforcing the hierarchy.


[29-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And also lakk an understanding of how destructive it is.


[29-Dec-19 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Posts political cartoons and shit


[29-Dec-19 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fears Islam like please, I think the high school I went to had like one person who wore a head covering


[29-Dec-19 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was praising Ben Garrison and saying "political cartoons helped educate the illiterate"


[29-Dec-19 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He made up a debate drinking game and couldn't spell "clique" right.


[29-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You still don't get how people actually become racist etc.


[29-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having no muslims/arabs around makes it MORE likely the guy will grow to fear them.


[29-Dec-19 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
People fear the *unknown*.


[29-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they fear what can be dehumanized.


[29-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you ask people whether "homosexuals" are okay


[29-Dec-19 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
they giv a different response overall than the same question with "gay people"


[29-Dec-19 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
If SHARIA LAAAAW and MOOOSLIEEEEMS are these abstract, unknown things far away that aren't talked of as being human in nature, then it's much easier to be afraid.


[29-Dec-19 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want him to not be afraid, drop him in the middle of Baghdad with a local woman who knows English and helps him study the history of the region.


[29-Dec-19 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That reminds me of that "racist two travelled the world and became not racist" comic


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It won't remove all of it, cause people are pretty much set by 25


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it will dull it.


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then a bunch of racists modified it because the guy went everywhere and saw Coca Cola and blue jeans and was like "every place is the same I feel nothing" and became even more nationalist


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalist for...what even?


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
If everywhere's the same, what would you possibly promote to be different from everywhere?


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Funny hats?


[29-Dec-19 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess the ideal one who is like 'every country should be unique and not copy paste'


[29-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pants made of leather?


[29-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, people copy and paste.


[29-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the idea was "Countries should embrace what makes them unique"


[29-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is a lie, an American nationalist would love Coke and blue jeans everywhere


[29-Dec-19 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, that's the core lie.


[29-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how market of ideas is intended to work. Eventually all this bullshit about sacred cow traditions and whatnot will go away. Maybe to be replaced by something, maybe not, but it's inevitable and welcome.


[29-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
"People are better different" "OH FUKK YOU FOR HAVING DIFFERENCE, DO MY THING ONLY"


[29-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nationalists always say "every country should do as they want"


[29-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[29-Dec-19 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How dare you criticize Saudi Arabia you globalist.


[29-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
>erection grows as Saudi Arabia starts showing American movies


[29-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's also kinda funny is like, almost nothing foodwise is actually from the continental US


[29-Dec-19 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>stops when they censor them


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's like, indian tacos


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cheez Wiz?


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but that's using cheese ideas developed mostly in Europe, just with artificial shit thrown in


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
American pizza is so different it basically is American food


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jerky is an Incan idea ultimately


[29-Dec-19 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's really funny to see people hold on to food traditions


[29-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
eventually, the French will eat potatos.


[29-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
In their baguettes.


[29-Dec-19 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Filipinofusioncuisinecomic.png


[29-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
oh, relatedly, in town here


[29-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
is the oldest operating American Chinese restaurant


[29-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's garbage.


[29-Dec-19 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chop suey and a bunch of small dishes, people only eat there because everywhere in town is bad at food.


[29-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was reading a book about the history of restaurants in Grand Forks


[29-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's interesting seeing how the Scandinavian influence dies out in the late 90s and then just becomes homogeneous American stuff


[29-Dec-19 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is run by actual Chinese people, same family that started it, it's just...it's garbage.


[29-Dec-19 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Restauranteurs do not giv a fukk.


[29-Dec-19 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The book is actually a compilation of reviews by that old lady who gave an Olive Garden a genuine review that ignored that it was a chain


[29-Dec-19 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.grandforksherald.com/lifestyle/2350615-eatbeat-long-awaited-olive-garden-receives-warm-welcome

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[29-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well i think its nice its still a family run business and still the same family for this long. 
what's the name of the place.


[29-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
shame it isn't better quality but still. better than a empty building


[29-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pekin Noodle Parlor


[29-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Former brothel and opium den?


[29-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In Montana?


[29-Dec-19 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds about right.


[29-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Old West I guess.


[29-Dec-19 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern version is some Oxy and a Tinder date


[30-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/manhandle

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manhandle


[30-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Verb - (transitive) To mishandle; to handle roughly; to mangle.


[30-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
that's the most common usage of it I've seen


[30-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
apparently in boat stuff, it refers to moving heavy stuff with only man power, no levers/pulleys/etc


[30-Dec-19 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
and can also mean just plain beating someone up, but I've never seen it used that way before


[30-Dec-19 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/17/ethics-watchdogs-sound-alarm-after-transportation-secretary-chao-delivers-major

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"Chao's corruption has gone unchecked for too long."
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[30-Dec-19 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr Mitch's wife favours favours contracts for Kentucky to make it buoyant and her husband be in a good spot for reelection


[30-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing new


[30-Dec-19 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just a little more blase about it than previously.


[30-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Send her back


[30-Dec-19 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
/s


[30-Dec-19 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We need lobbying bans for anyone directly related to a politician


[30-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you mean is we need to abolish lobbying.


[30-Dec-19 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And completely take away the power of the president to appoint people.


[30-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama tried some of his own corrupt appointments btw, tho one of them, in charge of the FCC, ended up coming around to being liberal.


[30-Dec-19 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(instead of neoliberal, basically he was against net neutrality but then everything came pouring on him to make it happen)


[30-Dec-19 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well not abolish right away


[30-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to strike hard and fast.


[30-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My idea is to strangle it until no one does it, then kill it when no one is one


[30-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich will find an alternative relatively fast if you try to cut something off minorly.


[30-Dec-19 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to hit them when they are completely unprepared and then take away *everything*.


[30-Dec-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reenforcement to prevent people doing it has to come in almost parallel.


[30-Dec-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need systems that make it *hard* to be corrupt at the same time you deliver an extreme blow to the corruption, from as many angles as possible.


[30-Dec-19 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is unlikely to happen, of course.


[30-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why the rich will hav a stranglehold over US politics for at least the next century no matter how hard anyone fights.


[30-Dec-19 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Short of literally murdering every millionnaire, anyways.


[30-Dec-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point is, do not underestimate the rich at getting their way politically.


[30-Dec-19 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are powerful not just because they are powerful, but they hav a tool (money) that can gain them ANY form of power.


[30-Dec-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they will fight *very* hard to get a more efficient way to spend it.


[30-Dec-19 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lobbying is a lot more direct than like, connections in industry slowly working thru state gov't to get to the guys higher up.


[30-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if we like tax them to hell and then give them membership in a government millionaire club where they can park their yachts and eat caviar


[30-Dec-19 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that if Warren served two terms Bezos would go from being worth 150 billion to 60


[30-Dec-19 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/52537f9315420fba6ddc97b29f1df8da

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States charge more for electric cars as new laws take effect
The new year will bring new charges for some owners of electric vehicles, as an increasing number of states seek to plug in to fresh revenue sources to offset forgone gas taxes.  In Hawaii,...
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[30-Dec-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe you should offset that revenue by


[30-Dec-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
idk


[30-Dec-19 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
_TAXING RICH PEOPLE_


[30-Dec-19 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich person: Nah destroy the planet instead, so get rid of electric cars.


[30-Dec-19 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
State gov't: I don't know what you just said, but this money sure feels good.


[30-Dec-19 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Coin on me daddy*


[30-Dec-19 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another rich person: What if I make electric cars a luxury item and then have massive wastes of money for other public infrastructure


[30-Dec-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
City cars should be a bigger thing


[30-Dec-19 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shame the original generation is dangerous


[30-Dec-19 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVQGC1IbK4

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[30-Dec-19 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/eegnfgaqpj741

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Cop punches girl in the head
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[30-Dec-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-punched-officer-videotaped-new-jersey-beach-arrest-accepts-plea-n972141

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Woman punched by police in videotaped beach arrest accepts plea deal
The officers involved were cleared of wrongdoing.
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[30-Dec-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
The officers involved were cleared of wrongdoing


[30-Dec-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
She pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct


[30-Dec-19 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
_America~_

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[30-Dec-19 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Dec-19 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-defying-congressional-subpoena-statement-2019-12

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Joe Biden walks back his remarks about defying a congressional sub...
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[30-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
why would he even do this?


[30-Dec-19 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it really seems like half the time the people would be _much_ better off just doing nothing and saying nothing.


[30-Dec-19 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
because he's got senile dementia


[30-Dec-19 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, apparently...


[30-Dec-19 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His mind's not much sharper than Trump's at this point


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He sees himself as a new york tough guy and he must ddeclare it at every opportunity while backing down on things if he;s paid enough


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I'd say it might actually be duller


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump says some hilariously stupid shit like every other day


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden is just cringe


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's just not got 74 years of pathological narcicism rushing out


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this really isn't even funny


[30-Dec-19 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it's random and dumb


[30-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_awaits a Warren/Romney ticket_


[30-Dec-19 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
just not biden plz


[30-Dec-19 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romney's in the Senate, as one of the few Republicans who considers opposing Trump


[30-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I say "considers" because it truly is just the Trump Party now.


[30-Dec-19 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's consolidated power like crazy.


[30-Dec-19 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Dec-19 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-campaign-announced-quarterly-fundraising-total-2019-12

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[30-Dec-19 05:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[30-Dec-19 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh look, more crazily exaggerated nonsense


[30-Dec-19 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Video immediately shows a Mirror article, which is reporting on something an MP said, big red flag right away.


[30-Dec-19 05:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how is that a big red flag?


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because politicians by their nature are likely to lie or at least exaggerate problems


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, title is very different from what the mirror article is about


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/661054524818980865/3vpszs8g8n741.png

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[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Drunk Floridians for Trump and Jesus


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vid title specifies muslims, specifies grooming, specifies impunity


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And beaches


[30-Dec-19 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Mirror article doesn't appear to indicate any of those three


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just talking about underreporting and underaddressing of child sex abuse in general


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
watch the whole video at least before you cast judgement


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk you.


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's rude


[30-Dec-19 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not care.


[30-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not taking the time to listen to 13 minutes of bullshit that from the very first frame indicates it's spinning off of other bullshit.


[30-Dec-19 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk your alt right inflammatory inflated nonsense in the ass to death.


[30-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not even care one iota what "Akkad Daily" thinks


[30-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he is completely going off of news articles


[30-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is clearly not a reliable journalist who did any investigation


[30-Dec-19 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he is not a primary source of any of this information.


[30-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah? isn't that what we all do here though? read the news? or do you consider all news to be fake news now?


[30-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sources, the articles he is going off of, are much more likely to contain any reliable information.


[30-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not want someone to read the news for me in place of reading the news.


[30-Dec-19 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
READ THE FUKKING NEWS


[30-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The news has ALREADY gone to the lengths to put the information there


[30-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you need this talking head to digest it for you? It would be FASTER to read the articles.


[30-Dec-19 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, article 2


[30-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independent saying 84% grooming gang members are Asian


[30-Dec-19 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is actually vaguely in line with the video title


[30-Dec-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which begs the question of WHY the article started with the hugely indirect shit with a labour MP bringing up anecdote to say 1 million kids might've been raped.


[30-Dec-19 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, now this is interesting


[30-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
actually looking at the article


[30-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's saying that disproportionateness isn't necessarily because foreigners rape more kids


[30-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because they do it in groups, whereas white people do it alone


[30-Dec-19 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And whites overall are the majority of sexual predators of children.


[30-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which leads to our first outright contradiction of the bullshit implication of what you linked, @Sunnyside.


[30-Dec-19 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's trying to imply that having all these Muslims around is making our kids unsafe, but actually, it's mostly whites making the kids unsafe, muslims just tend to be in groups when they *do* decide it's time to groom and rape kids.


[30-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Article 3 seems to be one survivor's story, irrelevant to the actual video title/topic


[30-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(police being shitty arresting a victim instead of abusers)


[30-Dec-19 05:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how is it irrelevant?


[30-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its about how the police are doing a poor job handling the problem if not covering it up after the fact.  by treating the victim as the criminal.


[30-Dec-19 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it seems to be going at the "impunity" angle, but it isn't linking to it being muslims, and isn't establishing a wider problem, it's essentially anecdote


[30-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also doesn't establish that they were muslim


[30-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
"asain. grooming. gang."


[30-Dec-19 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
it says nothing about their ethnicity


[30-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you are aware they classify middle eastern men as Asians there in the UK right?


[30-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but I'm talking about Article 3 here


[30-Dec-19 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't say the gang that went after her was Asian.


[30-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Article 2 says that Asians tend to operate in gangs rather than alone, unlike whites, who make up the majority of child rapists.


[30-Dec-19 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Article 4 is about a politician investigating Article 2's findings, basically, which is wholly irrelevant.


[30-Dec-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Article 5 seems to be the same subject as Article 1, but from a more reliable source


[30-Dec-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Independent vs. Mirror)


[30-Dec-19 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, it even cites the same politician and her statements.


[30-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's all of the articles he's going off of.


[30-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, here's the 2 relevant and 1 semi-relevant articles:


[30-Dec-19 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
5: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-child-sex-abuse-exploitation-rotherham-rochdale-police-a9215261.html

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Almost 19,000 children sexually groomed in England in year, offici...
Exclusive: Campaigners call for action as Sajid Javid’s promised review of grooming gang ‘characteristics’ absent from Queen's Speech
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[30-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
2: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/quilliam-grooming-gangs-report-asian-abuse-rotherham-rochdale-newcastle-a8101941.html

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British-Pakistani researchers say grooming gangs are 84% Asian
Co-author of Quilliam’s report urges frank discussion on abuse because ‘problem won’t go away’
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/12/10/11/child-abuse.jpg


[30-Dec-19 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'll count 4 just because it's talking about addressing the problem, in hindsight:


[30-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sajid-javid-pakistani-child-sex-abuse-grooming-gangs-rotherham-home-office-a8464191.html

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Home Secretary orders investigation into ethnic origin of sexual g...
Sajid Javid said the government attaches the 'highest priority to tackling child sexual exploitation'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/07/21/18/sajid-javid.jpg


[30-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well don't you think that this is a serious problem though. that these gangs have seemingly been operating since the late 90s with few arrests? Also there seems to be a correlation between these gangs and their ethnicity.


[30-Dec-19 06:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and the number of those molested?


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a serious problem, but you keep intentionally fukking shifting things onto minorities


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority of child rapes are by whites.


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep only talking about the gangs.


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, when immigrants want to rape kids, they form gangs for it.


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but that's what we are talking about though. the gangs.


[30-Dec-19 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's a problem


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, so when whites do it alone, it's not a problem?


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's what you're implying.


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's a problem too


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you don't want to bring it up.


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's "muslim gangs are the problem"


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but when its starts becoming organized with active groups. that's far more serious.


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welp, 5 guys raped a white girl


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
as its much harder to rescue those stuck in groups like this.


[30-Dec-19 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile 100 guys separately raped 100 white girls


[30-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
guess we need to spend all our resources on the 5 guys


[30-Dec-19 06:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
when they start forming groups and becoming more organize in their crime. then it becomes more serious.


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their gangs don't seem to be doing it any worse tho


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally with organized crime, you're talking leadership structures with guns


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
the difference isn't that vast Nebbie :/ They cite 84% total, so to get 1:20 ratio... Well, you get the idea.


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is vast tho


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
White guys almost never form pedo gangs, that's the thing


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when you find such a gang, it's going to almost always be non-white


[30-Dec-19 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
so 16% total perpetrators commit 'vast' number of crimes.


[30-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat, no


[30-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
OF the ones done by GANGS, 84% are "Asian"


[30-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
_gang members_, but okay.


[30-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it's phrased weirdly, you are correct.


[30-Dec-19 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The distinction isn't important unless ethnicity affects gang size as well


[30-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem seems to be UK police are uninterested in investigation


[30-Dec-19 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
regardless of the way the crime is done.


[30-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't too surprising since several years ago, there were veeeeery large pedo rings found that had been operating for decades.


[30-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[30-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 84% of convictions, not estimated actual.


[30-Dec-19 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those extremely large pedo gangs that'd been operating for decades? White.


[30-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah this source seems shifty. That crossed my mind as well, this would fit the idea of whites go free too well.


[30-Dec-19 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's...quite possible that the actual problem is the police are refusing to disrupt non-white gangs while refusing to even investigate white ones.


[30-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a fun aside, the UK has an island territory where under-16s aren't allowed to visit without special permission.


[30-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I mean, land of showering permits. I don't much care about what happens to them.


[30-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the descendants of the sailors in HMS Bount mutiny like 'em young.


[30-Dec-19 06:12 AM] Opponent#3498
good times.


[30-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so nebbie just because white people had organized pedo rings in the past that doesn't mean this ethinic one shouldn't be disregarded.


[30-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
children and teens are still being molested


[30-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and in some cases enslaved and prostituted out


[30-Dec-19 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying the police shouldn't do their damn jobs


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying that the conclusion of there being a greater issue with non-whites here is...fishy at best.


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well it seems you rather blame white people about it rather than focus at the problem at hand


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has had serious issues with combating child rape for decades.


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there you go again


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The majority of people who rape kids in the UK and get convicted for it are white


[30-Dec-19 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to you, these gangs are "the problem at hand"


[30-Dec-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't like how I'm "blaming whites" for what the actual statistics say.


[30-Dec-19 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sorry, but I do not control child predators in the UK.


[30-Dec-19 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you don't seem to like that i'm pointing out these gangs are ethanic either


[30-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, because you are deliberately doing so to make the problem racial.


[30-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I mean if you just don't like white people feel free and say so. I'm a understanding person


[30-Dec-19 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are looking at a problem of thousands of children being raped without investigation


[30-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and going "well, the ones done with multiple people per child are non-white, so that's the bigger problem"


[30-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3jm7m/did-the-british-establishment-cover-up-a-political-pedophile-ring-a-new-zealand-judge-will-decide

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Did the British Establishment Cover Up a Political Pedophile Ring?...
The child sex abuse claims are so far-reaching that two senior legal figures previously appointed to lead the inquiry were compelled to resign, after it became clear they were linked to people it would need to investigate.
https://news-images.vice.com/images/articles/meta/2015/02/10/did-the-british-establishment-cover-up-a-political-pedophile-ring-a-new-zealand-judge-will-decide-1423592885.jpg?crop=1xw:0.7689075630252101xh;center,center&resize=1200:*


[30-Dec-19 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has a history of just outright refusing investigating when rich white people start traffikking kids.


[30-Dec-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note, that 84% was of *convicted* child abusers.


[30-Dec-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not *investigated* or even *estimated*.


[30-Dec-19 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning, if the police were to ignore white child rape gangs, but not arab ones


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would get you the 84%


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Considering the UK has actual known history of ignoring white child rape gangs


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
for over 30 years


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd say that's not an unlikely possibility.


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's quite possible the UK police are already doing what you're saying they should do


[30-Dec-19 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and targeting gangs of arabs grooming kids


[30-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it doesn't matter what there ethancity is. its the fact they are active, have been active for a long time, and are organize is a serious problem. the fact they are ethanic is a corrulation of who makes up these gangs and it might lend to help understanding why they are doing it. plus the uk's lack of treating the problem before more get harmed


[30-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
while omitting the part where they should target the white gangs too


[30-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note


[30-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were very few arabs in the UK in the 80s


[30-Dec-19 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So "for a long time", the white people got 'em beat.


[30-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very minor sidenote, the video said "muslim", not "arab" or even "asian", that's an accidental conflation at best and actively intended to tie things to religion for extra hatred from Christians at worst.


[30-Dec-19 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely such was done to deflect from being called racist, and relying on the whole "Mohammad had a child wife so their religion condones it" thing.


[30-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if they are from pakistan. its 99% likely they are islamic


[30-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I do not *for a second* buy that the higher convictions of arabs in specifically group child sex abuse given all the other info means that the problem is "muslim grooming gangs". It's questionable that the problem is gangs in general, and the info previously on gangs show ridiculous coverups of white ones.


[30-Dec-19 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're dodging


[30-Dec-19 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The info was on "Asian", even if they are muslim, intentionally moving from "Pakistani/Arab" to "Muslim" is clearly intended to try to deflect on racism.


[30-Dec-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it becomes a hell of a meaningful distinction when talking about converts in either direction (whites to islam, non-whites away from it)


[30-Dec-19 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/march/britain-deny-asylum-islam-convert-bible-verses-peaceful.html

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Britain Uses Violent Bible Verses to Deny Iranian Convert Asylum
Latest example of immigration officials deploying Scripture to keep former Muslims out of UK comes as Church of England adds an official Farsi liturgy due to demand.
https://www-images.christianitytoday.com/images/90006.jpg?w=1200


[30-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK likes to make big, big talk that it's about them being Muslims, but when push comes to shove, they just find a new excuse when people convert.


[30-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about race.


[30-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It always has been.


[30-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/politics/rudy-giuliani-venezuela-maduro-phone-call/index.html

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Washington Post: Giuliani held back channel phone call with Venezu...
President Donald Trump's personal lawyer held a back channel phone call with Venezuela's embattled President Nicolas Maduro in September 2018, according to The Washington Post, serving as the latest example of the scope of Rudy Giuliani's role in US foreign diplomacy.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191010104227-rudy-giuliani-file-super-tease.jpg


[30-Dec-19 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point I'm basically being pushed to a position where I want the presidency to be more of a prison than an office


[30-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because this should not happen.


[30-Dec-19 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I'm surprised Trump doesn't say Pence "wanted" to me Secretary of State or something and say Rudy is his running mate in 2020.


[30-Dec-19 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the weird part is, for as stupid as trump is, I dont think he;s dumb enough to take giuliani for vice president


[30-Dec-19 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rudy would immediatly bungle that shit and his campaign staff has likely pointed thisout


[30-Dec-19 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Pence is also still his key tro the religious votes. televangelists only go so far and he likely still needs pence to spout his religious shit to attract the religious right and get him those connections to televangelists


[30-Dec-19 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
giuliani is his shadow deals guy in the private sector who can slink off to other countries without a national spotlight on him 24/7, a shadow deals guy who is likely very close to beign thrown under the bus


[30-Dec-19 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being vice president would put too much spotlight on this


[30-Dec-19 12:49 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not even sure psker understands basic logic


[30-Dec-19 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
"Two things can be true at the same time" "but this truth is a muslim"


[30-Dec-19 02:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just assume it's bad faith argumentation


[30-Dec-19 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-venezuela-backchannel-nicolas-maduro-defy-john-bolton-report-2019-12

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Giuliani's involvement in shadow US policy in Ukraine had already got President Donald Trump impeached earlier this month.
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[30-Dec-19 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kim-calls-for-measures-to-protect-north-koreas-security-2019-12

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[30-Dec-19 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda weird, on Venesuela thing. Main US push was to attack the country financially and drive people to revolt, you'd think the 'shadow' channel would be suggesting military invasion instead of a deal.


[30-Dec-19 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd think a quick victorious war could mend his relationship with military hierarchy too. Everybody wins.


[30-Dec-19 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If Rudy was involved, the only purpose was to get money out of it


[30-Dec-19 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rudy doesn't give two shits about america, same as Trump


[30-Dec-19 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They only want what's best for their pockets


[30-Dec-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's pretty much the gist of it


[30-Dec-19 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money is why trump abndoned whole allies, sold the military as mercs to saudi arabia, and deregulated a shit ton of laws


[30-Dec-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money is why mcconnell fucks over any bill that crosses his desk that isnt personally endorsed by trump himself


[30-Dec-19 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money and power


[30-Dec-19 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
giuliani does trumps dirty work because he gets a cut of whatever profit it nets them


[30-Dec-19 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They don't want everyone to win, they onyl want themselves to win, any collateral damage means nothing to them unless it threatens them personally


[30-Dec-19 06:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1211655287247126535?s=21

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Thank you to highly respected Jewish leader Dov Hikind for his wonderful statements about me this morning on @foxandfriends.
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[30-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who watches this shit


[30-Dec-19 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fox & Friends? According to FOX, the entire world


[30-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS' site _always_ has at least one article either boasting about how awesome they are or how shit CNN is


[30-Dec-19 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_Always_


[30-Dec-19 10:15 PM] illumnious#7938
@Itsthinking rump supporters

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[30-Dec-19 10:15 PM] illumnious#7938
On crack


[30-Dec-19 10:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Watch MSNBC


[30-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Rumps are good


[30-Dec-19 10:17 PM] illumnious#7938
I meant Trump without the T


[30-Dec-19 10:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1211731319371288578?s=21

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President @realdonaldtrump MADE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

American companies brought $1 trillion back to the United States since the passage of President Donald Trump’s tax cuts law in 2017 https://t.co/HkGjIc0Yxx
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[30-Dec-19 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they invested it all in hookers, blow, yachts, and exporting american jobs


[30-Dec-19 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1211763169926012930

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Biden riffing on how Obama put him in charge of judging the "jobs of the future" suggests re-training miners as coders.

"Anybody who can go down 3000 feet in a mine can sure as hell learn to program as well."

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[30-Dec-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"hey guys how about bettering yourself and getting a transferable skill, you have the willpower to be successful"


[30-Dec-19 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"REEE YOU COASTAL ELITE"


[30-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Such a dumb fucking concern


[30-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
UGH


[30-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That stuff


[30-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So economists call it "frictional unemployment"


[30-Dec-19 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And universally discard it as irrelevant.


[30-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They say "what does it matter a million people trained to do X must now do Y and Z? It will be over in 20 years when they're all dead, so who cares?"


[30-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, do realize, in a 19th century society, it would take a longass time for an industry to die


[30-Dec-19 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society/technology changed slowly


[30-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there was always need for random little jobs that paid decently


[30-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So someone working a coal mining job really could just one day become an elevator operator or something.


[30-Dec-19 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All the people saying they should go into construction or something


[30-Dec-19 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's shift this one backbreaking manual labor worker into another thing when you could improve their lives by educating them


[30-Dec-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And of course


[30-Dec-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't want to throw any money into the education


[30-Dec-19 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to throw subsidies to the new industry


[30-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and somehow, the workers will just magically end up educated in doing it, because it's in demand


[30-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And will magically know how to actually get a job in said industry


[30-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like different industries hire differently or anything


[30-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
that'd be nuts, you see!


[30-Dec-19 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking disconnected rich shits


[30-Dec-19 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden was fucking saying that "These guys are so dedicated to what they do they could do well in anything"


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And people take it as an insult because we're not making coal miners repave roads instead.


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The myth of the all-powerful renaissance man


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure but it's hardly an insult


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most coal miners do not hav what it takes to code.


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
At all.


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coding requires extreme patience and problem-solving skills.


[30-Dec-19 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And loooots of planning.


[30-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coal mining only maybe gets you patience.


[30-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't involve like any planning or problem-solving.


[30-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, you are basically discouraged from thinking while doing it.


[30-Dec-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://wvva.com/2019/12/30/breaking-gov-justice-approves-firing-of-all-involved-in-nazi-like-salute/ they actually fired them

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[30-Dec-19 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
amazing


[30-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, coal mining involves a lot of labor that destroys your body


[30-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
programming involves sitting around all day that is also destructive in the opposite direction


[30-Dec-19 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you're a really high paid shit who can run laps in between solving tiny minor problems and sipping lattes.


[30-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that is, salaried and thus aren't required to grind yourself down with 10 hours of work a day)


[30-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and in a team that isn't super vital and thus expected to solve problems in half the time they should take, with constant bandaid solutions)


[30-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything but telling these guys to go on to dig ditches is elitists disrespecting them


[30-Dec-19 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck improving yourself, stay with manual labor


[30-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is


[30-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
our environment makes it virtually impossible to improve yourself


[30-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even when you do coding from the start, you get into industry mainly by connections


[30-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
not skill


[30-Dec-19 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can be the best damn coder in the world, but if your family does construction and you didn't catch the eye of a recruiter freshman year, that's it, you've got nothing.


[30-Dec-19 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
A rando coal miner has 0 chance.


[30-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their only option realistically is to stay in what they're good at.


[30-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even that's hard because neolibs think funding education is a bad thing.


[30-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Free college is *necessary* at this point.


[30-Dec-19 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a coal miner loses his job, and tries to go construction, he may find he's missing critical knowledge like what lumber to use


[30-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and has no access to the teaching needed to know it, or certification to show he does.


[30-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Biden has money


[30-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
lots of it


[30-Dec-19 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he can just buy whatever he needs.


[30-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, he can bribe someone to not even need to show he knows his shit.


[30-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elites ARE disrespecting them, @Itsthinking


[30-Dec-19 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elites are disrespecting them by trivializing career switches


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And acting like there's no skill involved in labor, that you can instantly do whatever you set their mind to.


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Implicitly, that's saying that neither coal miners nor programmers hav actual skills they took time to develop.


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that is the ultimate form of disrespect.


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
To say that someone's entire career could be done by any average joe.


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't that the basis of populism


[30-Dec-19 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
(or a joe...biden)


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
To say that skills don't exist?


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To say that people who are outsiders may know things better than experts


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, you misunderstand


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
they aren't saying outsiders know better


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're saying that anyone can instantly become an expert just by trying hard


[30-Dec-19 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is an American idea


[30-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
American children giv up at tasks far sooner than those of other countries


[30-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
because we tell our kids they can do anything they set their minds to


[30-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, when kids encounter actual difficulty, they assume the problem can't be done with hard work.


[30-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they giv up.


[30-Dec-19 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
We make people believe everything is easy, you just need to want to do it.


[30-Dec-19 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
As a career programmer career programmers can't fucking program


[30-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen it a bit firsthand, yes.


[30-Dec-19 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Horrible ActionScript code


[30-Dec-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
how can anyone hope for someone who is not even versed in the background to succeed


[30-Dec-19 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
they treat it like it's magic


[30-Dec-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
can't tell if ignorant or malicious https://i.redd.it/pacgx6s60p741.jpg

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[30-Dec-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
probably both


[30-Dec-19 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
>arrest random homeless people and take their signs


[30-Dec-19 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malicious.


[30-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
One time I had to debug something that was deep in the ActionScript code btw


[30-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
the debugger went into some library loaded that there wasn't debugging support for


[30-Dec-19 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and stayed there.


[30-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Infinite loop in code I didn't hav the source for.


[30-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I asked the people who wrote the source I DID hav, that invoked said other code.


[30-Dec-19 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of them knew how any of it worked.


[30-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
More than once, I had to tell *them* what a line did.


[30-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was horrid.


[30-Dec-19 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, a coal miner is gonna hav real fun in that environment.


[30-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
On another note, old, but I guess nobody wants to use the P word https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/06/28/736296041/the-dark-secret-of-lake-malawi-trading-sex-for-fish

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The Dark Secret Of Lake Malawi: Trading Sex For Fish
Along the lakes of Malawi and Kenya, men catch fish and women sell the fish. But there's a controversial practice that's part of the business.
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[30-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that most women's struggles are purely economic, and impact their sexual lives.


[30-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Communism did one thing very right: Women had GREAT sex under it, because men didn't hav a leg up over them.


[30-Dec-19 11:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1211775333306916867?s=21

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[30-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thepresidencyshouldbeaprison.txt


[30-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you still don't get what it takes to actually enact good policy.


[30-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess I really don't


[30-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything you suggest seems to be built around an idea of confinement that would ultimately just make it easier for the rich to prevent change.


[30-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You shouldn't be thinking in terms of shakkling the dictator


[30-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
you should be thinking about which ropes are pulling them and everyone around them.


[30-Dec-19 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And who the ends of those ropes are given to


[30-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just put them all at the end of a rope and push tbh


[30-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you're thinking "okay this madman elected by out of work insane assholes to kill browns should just be kept from doing anything"


[30-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If a dictator is shackles the ropes will flail helplessly won't they


[30-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What you should be thinking is why there are out of work insane assholes voting.


[30-Dec-19 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, the ropes will flail helplessly as the country burns


[31-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of a democracy, Its, is to make it so the money the gov't collects is reinvested into the people that generate it


[31-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than kept in a few elites


[31-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the masses hav money and influence over the gov't, it will serve them


[31-Dec-19 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they do not, it will not.


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a result of our country becoming less democratic


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the cause of it.


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So racist people shouldn't be allowed to vote or something?


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that the racists are empowered on purpose by the rich


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
who dislike social programs


[31-Dec-19 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
social programs that make people less racist.


[31-Dec-19 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's neoliberal policy that produces people like Trump.


[31-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/politics/joe-biden-running-mate-republican/index.html

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Joe Biden says he would consider a Republican for his running mate
Joe Biden told voters in New Hampshire on Monday that he would consider choosing a Republican as a running mate, but added, "I can't think of one right now."
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[31-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, I was joking when I said Romney would run as VP


[31-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Crazy enough to work sadly


[31-Dec-19 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would pick Abrams


[31-Dec-19 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pick one charismatic enough that hasn't sucked Trump's dick but also hasn't gotten shat on by him and his lot, and you get a lot of people thinking "Hrmm, if Biden doesn't wake up one day while in office..."


[31-Dec-19 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders


[31-Dec-19 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will be a Republican in 5 years if he's still alive.


[31-Dec-19 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP had the whole "We'll paint Sanders as an American Corbyn" strategy for like two days


[31-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they realized Americans don't understand


[31-Dec-19 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nor do they


[31-Dec-19 12:30 AM] Opponent#3498
```The entire point of a democracy, Its, is to make it so the money the gov't collects is reinvested into the people that generate it```


[31-Dec-19 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, it just came to me. The Soviets tries to solve the same problem. Well, Lenin tried. Ass backwards and skipping steps three at a time, but this was, ultimately, that same goal, when defined this way.


[31-Dec-19 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
under different circumstances he might even succeed. That was not to be though.


[31-Dec-19 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The soviets built cities in the middle of nowhere while trying to stop people fleeing the countryside while selling all their damn food to other countries for political influence. I don't think they really wanted the people to hav control.


[31-Dec-19 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the goal changed somewhere along the way. This is what they set out to do, along with reversing Brest-Litovsk and burning desire to export the idea worldwide.


[31-Dec-19 12:36 AM] Opponent#3498
the reversal largely succeeded, global ambitions did not. The economics part degenerated quickly.


[31-Dec-19 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Stalin)


[31-Dec-19 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, he said lenin, stalin was the one who didn't want people to have control


[31-Dec-19 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
that's why it's called stalinism


[31-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leninism#Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

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[31-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
factory cities in the middle of nowhere was born out of the rapid drive for industrialisation, as one of the main prerequisites for 'revolution of proletariat'. This is one of those ass-backwards things, Marx wrote you need high industrialisation and cheap labor to start the transition. Bolsheviks forced 'communism' on largely agrarian population and THEN decided to play catch-up. I don't know why 'cities in the middle of nowhere' was considered, the traditional industrial centers largely were already where they needed to be. Maybe strategic concerns.


[31-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
lenin called direct democracy the "dictatorship of the proletariat"


[31-Dec-19 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
> The soviets comprised representative committees from the factories and the trade unions, but excluded the capitalist social-class to ensure the establishment of a proletarian government, by and for the working class and the peasants. Concerning the political disenfranchisement of the capitalist social-class in Bolshevik Russia, Lenin said that "depriving the exploiters of the franchise is a purely Russian question, and not a question of the dictatorship of the proletariat, in general.


[31-Dec-19 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
basically, if lenin had died even 10 years later, I feel that the USSR would still be a global superpower


[31-Dec-19 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
apparently lenin said that the soviet union couldn't handle any more communism at the time and planned to do something similar to what china did to make its economy explode (state capitalism), so idk if it would've been a good thing or not


[31-Dec-19 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
but stalinism very likely killed the long-term viability of the soviet union


[31-Dec-19 12:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah pretty much what Crow said.


[31-Dec-19 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
lenin was a visionary leader who used his power as a means to an end (establishing socialism), stalin was just a good administrator who thought power itself was the goal and hoarded it


[31-Dec-19 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it was strategic, the new cities were in like, Siberia mostly, and mostly populated with researchers.


[31-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was intended to try to make their tech a bit more secretive...which is dumb considering they were playing technological catchup.


[31-Dec-19 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some of those cities were dedicated solely to research.


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might also hav just been wanting to experiment, see if they could make "perfect" cities from scratch etc.


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(answer: no)


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
well, there were plenty of new settlements around large factories in European part too, but, yeah. The 'closed secret cities' thing is still going on btw.


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, I know.


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really dumb.


[31-Dec-19 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
perfect cities of the future was a different project and later. Pripyat actually was one of those.


[31-Dec-19 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately one thing America has shown is that just leaving things open produces pretty good results.


[31-Dec-19 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], according to the ragged american flag with the blue line dogwhistle, it's 100% malicious


[31-Dec-19 01:13 AM] Crow#5457

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[31-Dec-19 01:14 AM] Macarou#9574
That looks so much like toothpaste.


[31-Dec-19 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Dec-19 04:37 AM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[31-Dec-19 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
someone is actually getting it right


[31-Dec-19 05:17 AM] illumnious#7938
finally


[31-Dec-19 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/476208-biden-said-hed-nominate-obama-to-the-supreme-court-if-hed-take-it

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Biden said he'd nominate Obama to the Supreme Court if 'he'd take it'
Former Vice President Joe Biden said that he would be open to nominating former President Obama to serve on the Supreme Court during a campaign event in Iowa over the weekend,
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[31-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The presidency should hav an age cap.


[31-Dec-19 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
65


[31-Dec-19 06:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't think a former president should be placed in the  supreme court.


[31-Dec-19 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I think actual lawyers and judges with decades of courtroom experience in the federal court system should be the ones allowed to take the bench at SCOTUS


[31-Dec-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
If a former president qualifies to be that, then okay. Obama does not


[31-Dec-19 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden is just being a fucking cringeworthy moron as usual


[31-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What about Kagan, @byte[]


[31-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was never a judge of any kind.


[31-Dec-19 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was dean of Harvard Law.


[31-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Generally the ACS is going to go full "fukk it, we'll suggest activists straight up if everyone expects it"


[31-Dec-19 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
FedSoc already does that but doesn't pretend


[31-Dec-19 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't get how someone could be qualified to be a _supreme court justice_ if they have never served in a courtroom


[31-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
exactly byte


[31-Dec-19 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there should be some court room experiance


[31-Dec-19 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Being an appointed judge in general regardless of party or ideology is a lot about nepotism


[31-Dec-19 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
seems like, useful though the SC might be, it's entire premise is faulty.


[31-Dec-19 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he's trying to bribe people with supreme court nominations?


[31-Dec-19 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Guys, if you elect me i'll nominate all your favorite political celebrities to favorable positions!"


[31-Dec-19 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-thunberg-idUSKBN1YY0PV

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I wouldn't have wasted my time on Trump, says Greta Thunberg
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[31-Dec-19 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/30/lev-parnas-giuliani-associate-asks-share-info-house-intel/2780082001/

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Lev Parnas, Giuliani associate, asks to share info and documents w...
Lawyers for Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, asked a judge permission to turn over documents to the House Intelligence Committee.
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[31-Dec-19 02:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Parnas /really/ wants to cut a deal, it seems


[31-Dec-19 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking no it's not


[31-Dec-19 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
it's about making the bench more immune to cronyism and unqualified activist picks


[31-Dec-19 04:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/the-rust-belt-didnt-have-to-happen/603523/

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The Rust Belt Didn’t Have to Happen
Columbus, Indiana, thrived while other cities declined. Why?
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[31-Dec-19 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/AIxY_Y9TGWI

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Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul
In this video I explore how corporatism produces soulless music, some of which is amusingly awful! I also explore how tech and oil companies with dubious business practices use music as part of propaganda campaigns to convince the public that they support ecological activism....
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[31-Dec-19 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Investing in your own community sounds like communism to me but ok


[31-Dec-19 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212014713808273410?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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I will be signing our very large and comprehensive Phase One Trade Deal with China on January 15. The ceremony will take place at the White House. High level representatives of China will be present. At a later date I will be going to Beijing where talks will begin on Phas...
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[31-Dec-19 05:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1606461/middle-east

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Protesters outside US Iraq embassy in Baghdad rage against air strikes
BAGHDAD: Tear gas was fired towards Iraqi demonstrators in an effort to push them back from the US embassy in Baghdad, AFP reported on Tuesday. Twelve militiamen were wounded in Iraq due to tear gas and stun grenades fired to disperse protest outside the embassy. Thousands of...
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[31-Dec-19 05:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15FfWj11uys

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marlboro528
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The Clash - Rock The Casbah (original)
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[31-Dec-19 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-junction-city-controversy-kansas-police-officer-fabricated-story-about-being-served-mcdonalds-coffee/

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Police officer "fabricated" story about being served McDonald's co...
"This was completely and solely fabricated by a Herington police office who is no longer employed with our agency," Herington Police Chief Brian Hornaday said Monday at a press conference.
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[31-Dec-19 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Fucking pig


[31-Dec-19 05:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1211985521053818880

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https://twitter.com/thestevennabil/status/1211985521053818880
Militia members and supporters attacking the gates of the U.S embassy in #Baghdad #Iraq https://t.co/jXwTYqeJvI
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[31-Dec-19 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
inb4 benghazi 2.0


[31-Dec-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BAynnha/status/1211751274170990593

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@TrumpWarRoom @realDonaldTrump 👑»»»⁦🇺🇸⁩
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[31-Dec-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
um, I can't tell if this is trying to support or ridicule trump


[31-Dec-19 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
and the user themself only seems to post in arabic


[31-Dec-19 05:44 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/g4u4kwu34y741.png

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[31-Dec-19 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The great baby wizard of kag has spoken


[31-Dec-19 06:10 PM] illumnious#7938
@Crow both


[31-Dec-19 06:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/the-jig-is-up-conservative-warns-trump-officials-that-courts-give-them-no-choice-but-to-testify/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘The jig is up’: Conservative warns Trump officials that court...
On Tuesday, Never Trump conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin blasted senior Trump officials in the Washington Post, warning them that “the jig is up” and they have no legitimate excuse not to testify about the president in the Senate trial. “On Monday, a federal judge ...
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[31-Dec-19 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/ei18b5/university_puts_people_in_debt_then_creates_a/

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University puts people in debt, then creates a raffle to get debt ...
Posted in r/iamatotalpieceofshit by u/apprehensiveabtthis • 52 points and 7 comments
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[31-Dec-19 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/swearyanthony/status/1212005733509648385?s=19

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Anthony B, oh god we're all going to die (@swearyanthony)
https://twitter.com/swearyanthony/status/1212005733509648385?s=19
Also hey to my US followers who are waking up to see what appear to be CGI images of fires. They're all real. Last night a fire generated it's own weather and flipped an 8 ton fire engine lengthwise onto its roof, killing a firefighter.
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[31-Dec-19 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
let it all end. I can see humanity achive the bright glorious godlike future, but I don't see it actually ever getting there before the end. Just let it all burn.


[31-Dec-19 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
ok boomer

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[31-Dec-19 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ

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The Onion
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Should The Government Stop Dumping Money Into A Giant Hole?
With the economy sliding deeper into a recession, panelists discuss whether it's time to stop throwing our money into a massive pit out in the desert.
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[31-Dec-19 09:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schumer-calls-again-for-impeachment-subpoenas-says-revelations-a-game-changer

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Schumer calls for witness testimony at impeachment trial, says new...
Sen. Chuck Schumer on Monday took up his push to have the Senate issue subpoenas that demand testimony from top Trump administration officials during the Senate impeachment trial after a new report claims to detail what occurred inside the administration during the decision t...
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[31-Dec-19 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212012065440894976

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212012065440894976
President Putin of Russia called to thank me and the U.S. for informing them of a planned terrorist attack in the very beautiful city of Saint Petersburg. They were able to quickly apprehend the suspects, with many lives being saved. Great & important coordination!
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[31-Dec-19 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
"terrorist attack" is code for "peaceful protest" in russia


[31-Dec-19 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
this is all kinds of silly anyway, so w/e


[31-Dec-19 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
like, I'm re-reading this and, like, what? Most of 'terrorist attacks' on Russia is FSB reminding the populace it has a reason to exist.


[31-Dec-19 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
and even of those there really hasn't been many.


[31-Dec-19 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea that US is actually involved in this somehow should be deeply embarassing for them.


[31-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
and for an outside force, the terror attack is a waste of resources. Russians welcome death, they're bombarded with propaganda from all sides, starting with domestic threats like 'highlander guests' from Chechnya and such, to Imperialist West, NATO mercenaries in Ukraine (don't ask how that works) and shit like this


[31-Dec-19 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
the mainstream media aims to instill an athmosphere of perpetual terror already.


[31-Dec-19 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
besides, in the modern world, there's no reason to actually do anything. Just say that you did, when something happens on it's own.


[31-Dec-19 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/opinion/deficits-economy.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/opinion/deficits-economy.html
Opinion | The Legacy of Destructive Austerity
The deficit obsession of 2010-2015 did permanent damage.
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[31-Dec-19 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
> Fortunately, economists had learned a lot from the experience of the Great Depression. In particular, they knew that fiscal austerity — slashing government spending in an attempt to balance the budget — is a really bad idea in a depressed economy.
> 
> Unfortunately, policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic spent the first half of the 2010s doing exactly what both theory and history told them not to do. And this wrong turn on policy cast a long shadow, economically and politically. In particular, the deficit obsession of 2010-2015 helped set the stage for the current crisis of democracy.


[31-Dec-19 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The long shadow of Malthus.


[31-Dec-19 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
What are news from india


[31-Dec-19 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
I heard tehy scheldued to become superpower today


[31-Dec-19 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
Mr Ghandi do it again


[31-Dec-19 10:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212126024575660035?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212126024575660035?s=21
The Anti-Benghazi!
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[31-Dec-19 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the what now?


[31-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no context for this and the link is just his underlings worshipping his feet despite there being no context...


[31-Dec-19 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
let iraqi storm not only embassy but the whole continental us tbh


[31-Dec-19 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one called him a brave and powerful warrior


[31-Dec-19 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
drunk posting in politics channel, what could go wrong?

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[31-Dec-19 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is this anti benghazi thing he;s spouting about?


[31-Dec-19 10:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1212057829705543680?s=21

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Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump)
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1212057829705543680?s=21
Black Americans thriving under @realDonaldTrump policies:

✅Historic low 5.5% unemployment rate (prior to Trump it was NEVER below 7%)

✅9,000 Opportunity Zones to spur $100B in private investment in communities

✅Record funding for HBCUs

✅First Step Act giving 2n...
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[31-Dec-19 10:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1212018571309539328?s=21

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Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump)
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1212018571309539328?s=21
The growing @realDonaldTrump economy is STRONG:

✅50-year low unemployment rate

✅Historic unemployment rates for women, blacks, Latinos, Asians, veterans

✅Over 7M jobs created

✅1M manufacturing & construction jobs

✅Fastest wage growth in a decade & faster for...
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[31-Dec-19 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the wage hasnt grown for jack shit


[31-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's grown at the bottom, slightly


[31-Dec-19 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
mostly due to states raising their minimums.


[31-Dec-19 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/betsy-devos-trump-republicans-education-secretary

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Betsy DeVos: the billionaire Republican destroying public education
Cuts, attacks, rollbacks – the education secretary’s campaign to dismantle America’s public system has continued unabated
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[31-Dec-19 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/27/21038031/white-evangelicals-trump-immigration-election-2020

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One surprisingly simple reason evangelicals love Trump
It’s his immigration policy.
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[31-Dec-19 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/climate/trump-administration-war-on-science.html

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By Brad Plumer and Coral Davenport
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/climate/trump-administration-war-on-science.html
Science Under Attack: How Trump Is Sidelining Researchers and Thei...
In three years, the administration has diminished the role of science in policymaking while disrupting research projects nationwide. Experts say the effects could be felt for years.
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[31-Dec-19 11:18 PM] illumnious#7938
This is a shitstorm https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212134143045320706?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212134143045320706?s=21
The Fake News said I played golf today, and I did NOT! I had meeting in various locations, while closely monitoring the U.S. Embassy situation in Iraq, which I am still doing. The Corrupt Lamestream Media knew this but, not surprisingly, failed to report or correct!
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[31-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
``` The Fake News said I played golf today```


[31-Dec-19 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
time to sue for defamation


[31-Dec-19 11:24 PM] illumnious#7938
What a perfect opportunity to share this ‪ https://twitter.com/MrNinjafist/status/1210407183139127305/video/1‬


[31-Dec-19 11:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212137503941103617?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1212137503941103617?s=21
I am far better on HealthCare than the Democrats! https://t.co/eQDqqMRvq7
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[31-Dec-19 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah at this point pretty much anything he says can be reliably considered a fake


[31-Dec-19 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do people fight so hard to say healthcare isn't a right but consider it a right that the MIC gets so much funding?


[31-Dec-19 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
the MIC?


[31-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Military Industrial Complex


[31-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's because they want to shoot foreigners as the only career option for the poor, rather than simply "hand over" things.


[31-Dec-19 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Malthus, @Itsthinking


[31-Dec-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related but have you ever seen Starship Troopers


[31-Dec-19 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, "Service guarantees citizenship!"


[31-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people who think that it's a genuinely good approach, and thought that the rants clearly meant to be parodies of jingoism were a good approach.


[31-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people don't know that fascism is actually a thing.


[31-Dec-19 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think that like, the nazis were something unusual.


[31-Dec-19 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[31-Dec-19 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't understand what happens when you tie the military, media, and a certain ethnic group all together into one bundle of with-us-or-against-us.


[01-Jan-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
Wot


[01-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maintaining power at all costs, by manipulation, threats of violence, and sham legal defenses.


[01-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism.


[01-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is that you take every method of controlling the populace, consolidate them together, blame problems on some ethnic group, then start stomping; repeat each time you run out of a group to target.


[01-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not how it worked originally in Italy though. But I guess much like everything else, fascism has flavours.


[01-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's fitting that the place that probably was the most instrumental in starting the end of fascism was the birthplace of democracy


[01-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again Italy only could beat Ethiopia by cheating


[01-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah their pride and optimism was really misplaced


[01-Jan-20 12:45 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/aniceburrito/status/1212037838776209410?s=21

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[01-Jan-20 12:51 AM] Opponent#3498
par for the course for  him


[01-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much the entirety of PragerU is like this. It's not propaganda. It's simply feelsgood noise for old-timers.


[01-Jan-20 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/01/24/how-post-prison-reentry-programs-fail-queer-women

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How Post-Prison Reentry Programs Fail Queer Women
Having a man counts as a plan in some reentry programs.
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[01-Jan-20 01:18 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you can always do what people in other countries do. If the law declares you gotta get a man, get one, that's not really much of an impediment to whatever sex life you wanna have.


[01-Jan-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the most major impediment to a woman's independence that normally ever exists in society.


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it is a huge impediment to their sex life.


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know why women had better sex under communism?


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
eh. Have you ever wondered how gay men live in places with 'muh christian morality' where having children is a soft-locked requirement?


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
they make do.


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yes it sucks.


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

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Opinion | Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism
Yes, there was repression behind the Iron Curtain. But it wasn’t sexual.
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[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
but at the end of the day, well.


[01-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
needs must and all that.


[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gay men commit suicide in those socities, in large numbers.


[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop completely ignoring systematic harm done to people because it's "normal".


[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or because people just "need to adapt"


[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/here-are-donald-trumps-top-12-lies-of-2019-as-determined-by-cnns-fact-checker/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not that people 'need to adapt'. It's that they lack a choice on the matter.


[01-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society can absolutely destroy someone by demanding they not be who they are.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
it can.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Them lakking a choice is a violation of their basic rights.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
typically this  has nothing to do with sexual preferences.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is **intolerable**.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
it only somehow becomes a problem when queer is involved though.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Straight people being expected to be straight is not a problem, yes.


[01-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is when you expect of someone something they are not.


[01-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine a theoretical society that expected everyone to gay marry.


[01-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
there's more to 'be who you are' than the choice of partner or lack thereof.


[01-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how you would feel as a straight person.


[01-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The choice of a partner or lakk thereof is the most important decision in a person's life.


[01-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well.


[01-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
don't think we'll ever agree on that.


[01-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What choice do you think is more important?


[01-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
the job you do. The food you eat. The lifestyle to lead. The beliefs you follow. And so on. Everything in your life is, at the moment, **equally important**. Partner choice is just _one_ of the issues.


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
the 'at the moment' bit is, we're a bit past where procreation was nessesary to maintain a population of a specific area.


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of those things are directly influenced by partner selection.


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
in a word, no.


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their religion, their beliefs, their lifestyle, the food they eat, the money they take to support or giv to you


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it's interconnected.


[01-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
hav a direct impact on yours in turn.


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much all of it is.


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you get a bad choice of religion


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that doesn't screw over your partner choice


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you get a bad partner choice


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
it screws over your religion, beliefs, food, money, all of it.


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
oh that very much screws up your choice on that, as well as on many other issues.


[01-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
religion specifically, boy oh boy.


[01-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
now, for instance, food, that's a quality of life thing, it doesn't heavily impact anything.


[01-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Food directly impacts your health.


[01-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which has severe ramifications on your overal life.


[01-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
job does. Massively so. Less of a type of partner, more of a pool of them, but type also matters, tied to location you get to reside and if you can change it, and so on.


[01-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see how you can say choice of partner is less important than any of the rest of these given it strongly affects them and not vice versa.


[01-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
I never said it's not important. By itself it doesn't impact your choices.


[01-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You said it wasn't the most important.


[01-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also said it was not important.


[01-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
To "being who you are".


[01-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not. There are many issues, most of which by happenstance or design are outside one's control and absolutely shouldn't be. Focusing just on sexual preference to the exclusion of everything else, as is typically the case, is a huge folly.


[01-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
coming back to religions, fundamentalists of different stripes _reeeeeeeaaaalllyyyy_ poisoned the well of that particular discussion, as well as, in case of less organised or secular belief systems, political divide.


[01-Jan-20 01:31 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[01-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the decision of what kind of person will carry on your legacy, along with who you will be with the most, and who you will share beliefs/food with


[01-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
is extremely important


[01-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and trying to say it's really not that important is ridiculous.


[01-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's not important, *nothing is*.


[01-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about the choice of who you share a bed with, who will pass on their genes into your children, who will help you raise those children, who you will see every day of your life.


[01-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
personally, I don't give a crap about my legacy. The whole concept of generational traditions seems heavily dated and becoming obsolete, as 'the world gets closer', people move around and try to change themselves against their history.


[01-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
whether or not I'll ever have offspring, legacy considerations absolutely would not be a part of the decision.


[01-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Opponent#3498
also I skimmed the article you linked, and, yes, that is correct.


[01-Jan-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
no offspring for me


[01-Jan-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont want offspring, maybe in a better economy with a less abusive society, maybe i coudl see myself having children, but not in this one


[01-Jan-20 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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The global ruling class and their political servants are "hard at work, planning for a future in which they can maintain their power and privilege amid the chaos and destruction of the burning world around them."

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[01-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/DavidLWindt/status/1209145953359409153

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"a picture, taken during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, of the New York city skyline shrouded in the darkness of a blackout – all except one building, which remained lit up like a Christmas tree. That building was the headquarters of global banking giant Goldman Sachs ..."
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[01-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[01-Jan-20 02:07 AM] ononim#8141
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[01-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/us/west-virginia-cadet-nazi-salute-fired-trnd/index.html

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All of the West Virginia correctional cadets seen apparently giving a Nazi salute will be fired, West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice announced.
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[01-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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New York doctor sues Apple over watch's heart monitoring technology
The doctor is accusing Apple of incorporating features of his patented technology on the Apple Watch's heart-monitoring app.
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[01-Jan-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
the fuck NY doctors?


[01-Jan-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
bitching


[01-Jan-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Jan-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-agent-peter-strzok-claims-government-violated-privacy/story?id=68001195

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Former FBI agent Peter Strzok claims in a lawsuit that the FBI and Justice Department violated his privacy and free speech rights when they released his text messages.
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[01-Jan-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/31/att-touted-worker-bonuses-after-3-billion-trump-tax-cut-now-its-outsourcing-thousands-of-jobs/

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AT&T outsourcing thousands of jobs despite $3 billion Trump tax cut
After giving workers $1,000 bonuses, telecom giant is forcing many of those workers to train their own foreign replacements.
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[01-Jan-20 02:50 AM] illumnious#7938
hmmm


[01-Jan-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Once again a company making staff cuts even when they don't need to

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[01-Jan-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3262c51730fe25feb2a81f036971a56b

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Kim vows to show new N. Korean weapon, never trade security
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[01-Jan-20 03:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apnews.com/968422ef1e16470c967bebc394fee331

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3 years in, no sign of Trump's replacement for Obamacare
WASHINGTON (AP) — As a candidate for the White House, Donald Trump repeatedly promised that he would “immediately” replace President Barack Obama’s health care law with a plan of his own that...
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[01-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Many of the workers being replaced have been at the company for over a decade but are not being offered severance or early retirement


[01-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Forget the rich, just burn everything


[01-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Everything and everyone


[01-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
No starting over. Just end it.


[01-Jan-20 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[01-Jan-20 06:08 AM] illumnious#7938
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[01-Jan-20 06:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon "Peter Strzok"


[01-Jan-20 06:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What kinda surname is that


[01-Jan-20 06:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet he had trouble learning how to pronounce it as a kid


[01-Jan-20 07:01 AM] Opponent#3498
when half the surnames are like that, it's not a concern


[01-Jan-20 12:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) the employees xmas "gift" from the ceo


[01-Jan-20 12:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ho,ho,ho! For being such good employees, your grand gift is that i'm sending all your jobs to india! With other people of course, I'm not paying those insane travel fees...


[01-Jan-20 02:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.vox.com/2019/12/27/21039043/ibrahim-samirah-virginia-single-family-zoning

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The telling conservative backlash to a Virginia zoning reform prop...
Market economics vs. suburban identity politics.
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[01-Jan-20 02:25 PM] ononim#8141
>rugged individualism of suburbs


[01-Jan-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Deregulation, in this view, is a plot by “soy boys” to destroy rugged individuality."


[01-Jan-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this guy is clearly alex jones in disguise


[01-Jan-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these soyboys are putting themselves in the water to turn the houses gay!


[01-Jan-20 03:02 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim let me guess. the ppl complaining are also homogenous


[01-Jan-20 03:03 PM] jlun2#8758
ie. they all believe in this


[01-Jan-20 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re the kinds of p[eople who for soem weird reason beleive any law passed is both against them, and forced on them retroactively


[01-Jan-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one is going to force another hosue onto their property but they;ve been convinced that if it passes, liberals will force them to have another house on their property


[01-Jan-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
misconceptions are fun


[01-Jan-20 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[01-Jan-20 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jan-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/12/30/headlines/politico_democratic_party_insiders_now_think_sanders_could_win_nomination

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In U.S. election news, Politico reports that Democratic Party officials and insiders — including Hillary Clinton allies — now say it’s possible that Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders might win the party’s presidential nomination. Party insiders had largely written off Sa...
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[01-Jan-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE


[01-Jan-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jan-20 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally normal democratic country things


[01-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/01/europe/pope-francis-slap-woman-apology-intl/index.html

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Pope Francis slaps woman's hand, then denounces violence against women
Pope Francis has used his New Year message to denounce violence against women, hours after slapping a woman's hand to free himself from her grip.
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[01-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kinda fuck CNN for that shitty headline


[01-Jan-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Time for a crusade


[01-Jan-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jan-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Woman yanked the guy off balance as he was walking away and slapped her hand to make her let go, CNN conflates it with hypocrisy of him denouncing gender violence

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[01-Jan-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing


[01-Jan-20 06:14 PM] illumnious#7938
hell


[01-Jan-20 06:45 PM] illumnious#7938
mercy https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kayleigh-mcenany-trump-winning-democrats-whining-president-achieved-in-2019-despite-obstruction

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In 2019, America saw landmark trade deals negotiated, historic progress on long-stalled issues, and a robust economy.
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[01-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1212324137936605185

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Pope Francis smacks woman's hand to free himself from her grip https://t.co/8nNYWBtJay https://t.co/swzMEvAzXH
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[01-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, that zoning law dispute


[01-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans: Just let the free market do what it wants without strict regulation and it will work out!
Democrats: Okay, well if we remove this particular strict regulation on which housing can be built where...
Republicans: NO NO NO, BAD, BAD, NUCLEAR FAMILY QUIET SUBURBS. YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR BROWN PEOPLE INTO OUR WHITE PLACE.


[01-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
America's zoning laws are as strict as it gets btw.


[01-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You basically can never rezone anything.


[01-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless it's where brown people liv


[01-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
in which case it gets rezoned suddenly by the city planning council from residential to industrial


[01-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
at which point it gets polluted to shit while houses are torn down one by one.


[01-Jan-20 07:58 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
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[01-Jan-20 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/anandwrites/status/1212447717710008328

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Nothing more needs to be said.
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[01-Jan-20 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
it's time to chop off some rich people's heads


[01-Jan-20 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
BuT WhErE ARe yOU gOiNg To GeT ThAT


[01-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Moscow Mitch stole double that to pad his Kentucky reelection


[01-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, no, he just stole a bil


[02-Jan-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moscow theif


[02-Jan-20 12:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie does that housing mentality also apply to young republicans ?


[02-Jan-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-Jan-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young Republicans are from the suburbs.


[02-Jan-20 12:44 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4nMlm6Xnik

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Nazi Heroically Defends TRADITIONAL FAMILY From French Fry Ad
shed a tear for this lad

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[02-Jan-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@jlun2 rip ty


[02-Jan-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
so high house prices forever


[02-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/476368-historic-california-data-privacy-measure-leaves-companies-scrambling

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Historic California data privacy measure leaves companies scrambling
California will become the first state in the country to have a comprehensive data privacy law on Wednesday when the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) goes into effect.
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[02-Jan-20 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> “Our recommendation, and I think the prevailing wisdom, has been to only extend privacy rights to the people who have those,” said Stauss, who warned of possible lawsuits.
> 
> “In California if you don’t respond to a request to delete or a request to know adequately the enforcement mechanism is the attorney general’s office, but if you’ve voluntarily extended those rights to somebody outside California what’s to say you can’t be sued for consumer fraud?”
...huh?


[02-Jan-20 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is this guy arguing what I think he's arguing?


[02-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think he's arguing? Cause it sounds like a completely non sequitor to me.


[02-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell is giving everyone consumer protection *fraud*?


[02-Jan-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[02-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what specifically do you think is the linkage here, @WingbeatPony?


[02-Jan-20 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If I'm parsing this correctly (or as intended, whichever is more appropriate) I think what he's arguing is that *so long as* you don't offer the rights to data to literally everyone, you retain the right to pick and choose who is actually covered, which allows you to say "well they weren't actually covered" if you don't respond to someone in California, or at least allegedly so... iow, extending the right to literally everyone closes a loophole this guy doesn't want closed


[02-Jan-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(that is, maintaining plausible deniability lets skeezy datamongers potentially skirt this rule in California, otherwise it'd be exactly the sort of consumer fraud this law is intended to combat)


[02-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, so his argument is that the moment you claim to extend rights all over, then without Iowa forcing Cali's law in Iowa, you might actually not do all of Cali's law stuff, but seem like you do to consumers, therefore fraud.


[02-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's essentially saying that without the state gov't making it illegal for you to not giv X, you won't actually giv X, so by claiming to giv X to everyone, you're committing fraud.


[02-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon we've reached a new level of corruption.


[02-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corruption to the point a business believes it to be fraud to claim to giv people rights they weren't legally required to get because it's not like they'll actually ever get them.


[02-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, their view is that it's physically impossible to grant actual consumer protection without a state forcing you to.


[02-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're taking extreme corruption as a given.


[02-Jan-20 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/380-our-dumb-decade-123019

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[02-Jan-20 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Anytime Syria comes up


[02-Jan-20 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lol


[02-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[02-Jan-20 02:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/nothing-but-broken-promises-tax-group-blasts-trumps-colossal-failure-with-gop-tax-bill/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Nothing but broken promises’: Tax group blasts Trump’s colo...
Frank Clemente and William Rice from Americans for Tax Fairness issued a scathing editorial in the Los Angeles Times Wednesday about the failed Republican tax bill that not only left the middle-class behind it has failed in nearly everything promised. Jan. 1, 2020, marks the ...
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[02-Jan-20 02:56 AM] illumnious#7938
:this:


[02-Jan-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Tax cuts never promise anything to anyone except the super rich


[02-Jan-20 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would like to share this but the people I would share this with would argue that the "amazon paid zero corporate income tax" thing is also a lie and I don't know how to handle that argument


[02-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean, they just completely deny reality?


[02-Jan-20 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
pretty much, they're otherwise sane but they've got a couple very specific blind spots


[02-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like you need to overwhelm them


[02-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can deny one or two sources about one or two things


[02-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
but on this particular topic, there's like every source screaming a similar concept about every aspect of it.


[02-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/15/16653698/ceos-investment-tax-reform

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Watch CEOs admit they won’t actually invest more if tax reform p...
A telling and important moment.
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[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is where to start


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the quality of that sanity can be questioned, I suppose, because I guarantee they won't read a headline like this unless it comes from the Washington Examiner


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point out that the leadership involved, the CEOS


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
themselves said it wouldn't increase jobs/wages/etc.


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that kind of denial of sources is kinda prerequisite to denying reality


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that this was prior to passage.


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've got this Vox source, too https://www.vox.com/2019/2/20/18231742/amazon-federal-taxes-zero-corporate-income

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Amazon’s $0 corporate income tax bill last year, explained
The mystery of stock-based compensation.
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[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEN point out the effect is exactly as you'd expect given the CEOs not raising their hands.


[02-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea here is twofold:


[02-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) They worship CEOs, so when they see CEOs saying it, they'll hav to reconsider denying it


[02-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
2) If you set up both a prediction they can reject AND IT COMING TRUE that they would also reject on its own, that's powerful


[02-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's harder for someone to ignore an expert or results when the two agree.


[02-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if they try to reject the results, you point out the experts, and then they hav to wrangle with them at the same time, and vice versa.


[02-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It complicates the denial.


[02-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if they won't listen *to CEOs* OR the ones opposed to CEOs...


[02-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then well, they're some kind of new advanced biased stupid.


[02-Jan-20 05:26 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-is-now-facing-two-significant-foreign-policy-crises-and-he-has-nowhere-to-turn-for-help/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump is now facing two significant foreign policy crises — and ...
Two separate crises roiled President Donald Trump on the first day of the year of his re-election campaign. The U.S embassy in Baghdad is recovering from an assault that grew out of a pro-Iran protest. Some protesters stormed the grounds and set fires. Hundreds came to the fa...
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[02-Jan-20 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e85c1a425cae3d26ebad4730e73b6062

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White nationalist who ran for Senate arrested in Florida
MELBOURNE, Fla. (AP) — A white nationalist who ran for the U.S. Senate in Florida and was a featured speaker during the 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was arrested on...
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[02-Jan-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> Invictus, an Orlando-area attorney, has called for violent uprisings. During his 2016 Senate bid to unseat U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, he got widespread attention for claiming that he killed a goat and drank its blood as part of a pagan ritual. He failed, however, to win the nomination from Florida’s Libertarian Party to challenge Rubio.

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[02-Jan-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what a paragraph.


[02-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd probably vote for him, but alas.


[02-Jan-20 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-tech-companies-new-privacy-policy-2020-california-2019-12

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Here's why Facebook, Google, and every other major tech company ar...
A new law was passed in California, but changes being made by most major tech companies will affect everyone.
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[02-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Facebook argues that it doesn't need to change its policies because it says it technically doesn't "sell" user data, but rather uses it for advertising targeting purposes


[02-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🖕


[02-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
that's true. The data never leaves FB.


[02-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
this kind of thing needs to be formulated very precisely to work.


[02-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Yuri#4154

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[02-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Something something vore the rich


[02-Jan-20 10:54 AM] jlun2#8758
Tech giants are untouchable


[02-Jan-20 11:04 AM] jlun2#8758
Searching that up gave me .https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/record-number-oil-ceos-dethroned-220000925.html

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A Record Number Of Oil CEOs Dethroned In 2019
A record number of CEOs and other high-ranking executives have been dethroned in this volatile year, and oil & gas executives are no exception
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[02-Jan-20 12:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not really politics, but...
https://twitter.com/facebookvillain/status/1212019019982802945?s=19

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hey normie podcasts I got a fuckign true crime story for ya
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[02-Jan-20 02:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/v05o1x95pc841.jpg

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[02-Jan-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
there needs to be a 'reap what they sow' emote here :/


[02-Jan-20 02:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Jan-20 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
... does he know the song is about sex?


[02-Jan-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a8bbe7d003ca29c8da3d399522af582a

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Sanders raises impressive $34.5M in 2019's final quarter
WASHINGTON (AP) — Bernie Sanders says he raised more than $34.5 million in the final three months of last year, showing that a recent heart attack hasn't slowed the Vermont senator's fundraising...
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[02-Jan-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://genius.com/Ariana-grande-god-is-a-woman-lyrics

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Ariana Grande – ​God is a woman
“God is a woman” is the second single from Ariana Grande’s fourth studio album, Sweetener, which refers to the pleasures of sex and, consequently, encourages the message of female
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[02-Jan-20 04:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No actually the song is about god being a woman


[02-Jan-20 04:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Duh


[02-Jan-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the song is about sex with god who is a woman


[02-Jan-20 04:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also female osteoporosis


[02-Jan-20 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the middle of the song she sings "ow oof my bones"


[02-Jan-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the title of her next song is "i wish i didnt have bone-itis"


[02-Jan-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/australia-bushfires-scott-morrison-heckled-cobargo-videos-2020-1

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'You're not welcome, you f-----': Videos show Australia's prime mi...
On Thursday Scott Morrison was cursed out by angry locals in Cobargo, where two people have been killed by bushfires.
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[02-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-chiefjustice/emerging-from-the-shadows-the-u-s-chief-justice-who-will-preside-over-trumps-trial-idUSKBN1Z01PH

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Emerging from the shadows: the U.S. chief justice who will preside...
U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts will be a central figure in the ongoing drama of...
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[02-Jan-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jan-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so does this mean the 30's is the great depression sequel while everyone is also on fire?


[02-Jan-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://scoop.me/housing-first-finland-homelessness/

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Finland ends homelessness and provides shelter for all in need
In Finland, the number of homeless people has fallen sharply. The reason: The country applies the “Housing First” concept. Those affected by homelessness receive a small apartment and counselling – without any preconditions. 4 out of 5 people affected thus make their wa...
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[02-Jan-20 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/julian-castro-drops-out-of-presidential-race/2020/01/02/4ec14398-0659-11ea-ac12-3325d49eacaa_story.html


[02-Jan-20 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shocker


[02-Jan-20 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/devastating-blow-schumer-says-newly-unredacted-emails-show-why-senate-n1109641

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'Devastating blow': Schumer says newly revealed emails show why Se...
There was "clear direction" from Trump to freeze aid to Ukraine, a White House budget official wrote in one of the emails obtained by Just Security.
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[02-Jan-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well duh


[02-Jan-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d22aed5d39273150d640e02ef89823cd

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Trump plan to curb teen vaping exempts some flavors
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. health officials will ban most flavored e-cigarettes popular with underage teenagers, but with major exceptions that benefit vaping manufacturers, retailers and adults who...
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[02-Jan-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
U.S. health officials will ban most flavored e-cigarettes popular with underage teenagers, but their plan includes major exceptions that benefit vaping manufacturers, retailers and adults who use the nicotine-emitting devices.

The Trump administration announced Thursday that it will prohibit fruit, candy, mint and dessert flavors from small, cartridge-based e-cigarettes that are popular with high school students. But menthol and tobacco-flavored e-cigarettes will be allowed to remain on the market.

The flavor ban will also entirely exempt large, tank-based vaping devices, which are primarily sold in vape shops that cater to adult smokers.

Together, the two exemptions represent a significant retreat from President Donald Trump’s original plan announced four months ago, which would have banned all vaping flavors — including menthol — from all types of e-cigarettes. The new policy will spare a significant portion of the multibillion-dollar vaping market. And the changes mark a major victory for thousands of vape shop owners who sell the tank-based systems, which allow users to mix customized flavors.


[02-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/02/politics/unredacted-ukraine-documents-pentagon-concerns/index.html

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White House budget official told Pentagon that order to hold Ukrai...
In the face of warnings from the Pentagon that the hold on military aid to Ukraine could be illegal, an official from the Office of Management and Budget made it clear that the order to keep the freeze in place came directly from President Donald Trump, according to unredacte...
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[02-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as NBC more or less


[02-Jan-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder how much longer this whole thing will loop on.


[02-Jan-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
really feels like a broken record at this point. I guess the public attention span is measured in minutes, but still.


[02-Jan-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
although I guess that's the point.


[02-Jan-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
'Trump, Ukraine, aid, hold' is center of the world now. No other issues out there.


[02-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
none deserving that much attention anyway


[02-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The point is to keep attention on it until GOP senators start getting uneasy about just brushing it all away like it never happened


[02-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And as long as they don't publicly commit to wanting witnesses and documents, Pelosi won't pull the trigger and let the process continue


[02-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every week something more damning comes up, so it's not like she's really feeling pressure to let go when waiting keeps yielding more credence to her cause


[02-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's also fair, new details do come up. I'm just a bit annoyed about every little things presented as 'breaking news' at this point.


[03-Jan-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-administration-undocumented-immigrants-drivers-licenses-dhs-homeland-security/

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DHS says taking away driver's licenses will help fight child porn
Studies show giving licenses to immigrants, even those who are undocumented, actually improves safety.
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[03-Jan-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-wtf-blinking-okay-gif-7513882

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[03-Jan-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sancho has no van so he can't make CP, obviously.


[03-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, people like this believe that 1) The minority group is truly responsible for crime and 2) Tuffer laws will clearly put a stop to that!


[03-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fascism.


[03-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we just make X group illegal, crime stops being a thing, guys.


[03-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homeless aren't allowed to sleep outside? Murder is a solved problem.


[03-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gays aren't allowed to marry? No more domestic abuse!


[03-Jan-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Women aren;t allowed to vote? global warming is solved guys!


[03-Jan-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
note that they're also claiming that someone who is willing to be involved with child porn is going to be stopped by a law saying you need a license to drive


[03-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
well, same as with everything else byte.


[03-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
people who are willing to go all in aren't gonna be stopped by tougher laws. People who try to live by them might stop trying, instead.


[03-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
wish people remembered that when they supported tougher gun control.


[03-Jan-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
although I guess this is worse by being even less related.


[03-Jan-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
but w/e. It's flavours of the same thing.


[03-Jan-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
...yes, because these things are clearly the same argument


[03-Jan-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and not entirely different things


[03-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
well, luckily for now nobody said tougher gun control prevents child porn. But give it time, and two arguments will become one.


[03-Jan-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
the reason I support gun control laws is not because I expect people who really want guns not to be able to get them


[03-Jan-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but because the vast majority of gun deaths are accidental and caused by otherwise law abiding citizens

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[03-Jan-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
what do you think I support it for


[03-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
dunno. The absolute majority of the media talks about 'muh mass shootings'.


[03-Jan-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
but this is actually a sane argument to do so, and I commend you for it.


[03-Jan-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
there is a perfectly viable path to such restrictions also decreasing the frequency of shootings


[03-Jan-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
how would you take your uncle's gun if he doesn't have one


[03-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
someone will. Probably unregistered at that point.


[03-Jan-20 01:18 AM] Opponent#3498
when there's a will, there's a way. And given the reason for mass shootings as a form of violent protest, the will is absolutely there.


[03-Jan-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
accessibility is everything in terms of mode of attack


[03-Jan-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
I would much rather deal with an opponent armed with a knife than a gun


[03-Jan-20 01:19 AM] Opponent#3498
the mode might change. The attacks and damage thereof will not.


[03-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
replace a gun with a truck. Or with pipe bombs. Or with something else.


[03-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
'mass knifings' is something out of China or the land of showering permits, with it's cult of 'our navy will protect us, nobody will get us on our cozy little island'


[03-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
in US, gun or not, things will not get better because they're not caused by the gun.


[03-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, pipe bombs grow on trees


[03-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
not to mention that, unlike personal safety cause, requiring training and background chedks, which would actually gain you followers among gun users (because, you know, most of the people serious about it are pretty sane), appealing to mass shootings will give you a stonewall.


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and trukks can be driven at a high rate of fire from hotel rooms.


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
oh Nebbie. Never change.


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woe betide you if they start driving 60 pipe bombs a minute into crowds.


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
just need a couple tossed into a classroom.


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what people are worried about right?


[03-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
muh children?


[03-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
with people over age of consent instantly becoming irrelevant fuel for the machine?


[03-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure every kid that takes wood shop knows how to make or acquire pipe bombs.


[03-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not a hard info to aquire. Needs must.


[03-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, the kid's uncle has several sitting around in an unlokked cabinet.


[03-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just in case the gov't tries to collect taxes.


[03-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
subtle anti-right argument there. Nice.


[03-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
are you interested in talking about the specific societal issue or fling shit at the right as usual?


[03-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
don't answer that. Was a rhethorical question.


[03-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all those gangs in Mexico, they could easily swap out their miniguns for pipe bomb launchers.


[03-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's huge demand for those in Texas.


[03-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
the miniguns issue, we've already discussed.


[03-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
there's some pretty big red flags that go up at the FBI when the same person buys the materials to make a pipe bomb in every single legal way (and many illegal ways as well)


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah crow, the pipe bombs just grow on trees


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why there's not tons of pipe bomb terrorist attacks


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can't possibly stop criminals, they're vampire lords


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why even bother to make tools to commit crimes less available?


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you can't, vampire lords or not.


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
you certainly can't stop all criminals, but you can stop most of them


[03-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why even lokk your house?


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
luckily for everyone involved, you aren't likely to get a chance to try and fuck up everything for everyone in the process without ever achieving any progress.


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any criminal could theoretically gain a magnetic imaging and lokkpikk system


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
and you can stop a lot more death when the most efficient killing tool ever created is removed from the general populace


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should just leave all important doors unlokked.


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
(per dollar, guns are by far the most efficient killing tool)


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah man, I'm sure Crowbar Man will arise


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
caw

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[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
he can kill fools fast as any gun


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
at 50m


[03-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow when you don't remove the reason people do it, but remove the means, you're forcing people to get creative. Is it a good thing?


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crowbar Man wasn't allowed to use the gym


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
uh, yes? there's no weapon more efficient at killing people than guns, they're stupidly efficient


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
he improvised by banging your mom


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
okay then. You do you bub.


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's now a weapon to surpass Metal Gear


[03-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
see you Nebbie, back to mute with you.


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
like you could detonate a nuclear weapon in a city with a few hundred thousand people in it and kill them all, and it'd still cost more per dollar than the bullets required to do the same with a rifle


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, if we get rid of criminal gangs


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
at this point I'm willing to see US drown in blood without any major gun involvement.


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will just like, form religions.


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
that would be a sight. And highly ironic.


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone's mad about losing the cold war.


[03-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
he's mocking you because you made a seriously dumb claim that pipe bombs are dangerous


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
no, he's mocking me because he's willing to say anything to defend his claim and silence his opposition.


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
no, your claim about pipe bombs being a bigger danger than guns is unbackable


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
he's been doing that for as long as I've known him. Usuaully there's a grain of truth in what he says.


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Macarou#9574
No, i'm pretty sure Crow is right


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
you can't back that up


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
a ''bigger threat'. No, a suitable replacement for terror attacks.


[03-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
and it goes against every shred of evidence that exists


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
if your goal is to do as much damage as you can without concerns for personal safety, there are options.


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
there are options... that are very incredibly hard to carry out


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but those options arent as financially or time efficient as a loaded gun


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
people simply haven't had a reason to try. Give them the reason, let's find out.


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joan of Arc could've built a giant trebuchet to destroy England across the English Channel


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore


[03-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
England doing anything to stop her was pointless.


[03-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making it hard for peasants to gain swords? Not like that ended Japan's feudal warfare.


[03-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
it's a loooooooooooooooooot easier to just go out to a gun show and buy a rifle (unregistered) for a few hundred dollars cheaper than buying it online, then go shoot up a church than it is to gather together all of the materials needed to make a pipe bomb, even illegally


[03-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But guys, it's like


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we ban the guns


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jim Bob will just build nukes


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta fear all those rednekks out there.


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I've said my piece. Nothing more to add, unfortunately.


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make them creative and you've just like, completely removed the limiters.


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those guns weren't there because of being a cheap and easy way for them to enact crime


[03-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
church shooting is an exception of exceptions btw. But yeah, sure.


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
um, mass shootings are pretty common in the US


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
those guns were to stop them from their true potential.


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
church was just an example


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
a poor one.


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
could be school, movie theater, hotel, etc


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
ok, now you're trying to do the bad faith picking at tiny details thing


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
appartment complex


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was he ever not?


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hotel accross from a concert picking off concert goers


[03-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like the main tactic Opponent uses.


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
the point was never about what's being shot up, it's about the fact that lots of things are being shot up


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He lets you talk more than him and then finds three things to set fire to without actually addressing the main point.


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
you remove legally accessing guns, it becomes a lot harder to shoot things up


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll have to pull up statistics on what happened in recent years and why. Otherwise you'll just drown me with 'examples'.


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
you're arguing hate crimes, I'm thinking people driven to desperation and a point of no return.


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys


[03-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
need to see what the facts say.


[03-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
you'll DROWN HIM WITH 'EXAMPLES'


[03-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
every fucking time you say you're gonna being up "examples", it's either not related to the topic at hand, or you don't find anything at all and say you're gonna look later but never do lol


[03-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare actual events that happened in large quantities be shown to hav actually happened, and in large quantities.


[03-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/exclusive-unredacted-ukraine-documents-reveal-extent-of-pentagons-legal-concerns/

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Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon...
Unredacted emails tell the behind-the-scenes story of the officials who had to carry out the president’s unexplained hold on Ukraine military aid.
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[03-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
actually I remember that happening... twice.


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
both times I started going through shtuff, the discussion in the meantime derailed and that became irrelevant before I could bring them up.


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019 wikipedia makes this easy :twicrazy:

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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2019
This is a list of mass shootings in the United States that have occurred in 2019. Mass shootings are incidents involving multiple victims of firearm-related violence. The precise inclusion criteria are disputed, and there is no broadly accepted definition.Gun Violence Archive...
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[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also "you're arguing hate crimes, I'm thinking people driven to desperation and a point of no return."


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is very clearly diversionary.


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
once there was the 'people less violent in recent years' (lowbob monopoly on violence = good argument from dear ol' Nebbie)


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/4441ae68d14e61b64110db44f906af92

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US mass killings hit new high in 2019, most were shootings
The first one occurred 19 days into the new year when a man used an ax to kill four family members including his infant daughter. Five months later, 12 people were killed in a workplace shooting...
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[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first part is trying to say that we're just liberals pissed about racial stuff


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
yes, violence overall can be down while mass shootings are up


[03-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't mutually exclusive


[03-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
the second part is saying that criminals are all like, masterminds of some kind so actual statistics don't matter.


[03-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I simply expected him to be entirely full of shit tbh.


[03-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
he linked a source, I started going through the sources cited there.


[03-Jan-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2018

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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2018
This is a list of known mass shootings in the United States that have occurred in 2018. Mass shootings are incidents involving multiple victims of firearm-related violence. The precise inclusion criteria are disputed, and there is no broadly accepted definition. This includes...
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[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
> In all, there were 41 mass killings, defined as when four or more people are killed excluding the perpetrator. Of those, 33 were mass shootings. More than 210 people were killed.


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Come on, argument about how since the criteria aren't set the same by everywhere, every single source is wrong.


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
_places bet_


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
there were many problems with that topic, and that source as the only concrete info for people 'back in the day' was tribal societies from 18th century+ in close prolonged contact with whites.


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh even better


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
still, it became irrelevant by the time I really dug into it.


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
the second... Hmm.


[03-Jan-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

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List of mass shootings in the United States
This is a list of the most notable mass shootings in the United States that have occurred since 1922. Mass shootings are incidents involving several victims of firearm-related violence. The precise inclusion criteria are disputed, and there is no broadly accepted definition.T...
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[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
kobold, stop that, ty.


[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s 3 different wikipedia articles


[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guys I'm sure these tribal societies only killed each other cause the WHITE MAN was nearby


[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2019,2018, and general


[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
oh. So it is, the same picture put me off.


[03-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like there is an innate tendancy towards violence in humans.


[03-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that a culture of violence as a tool, plus opportunity leads to, you know, violence


[03-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well wiki is dominated by public opinion, which is typically left-leaning lately, so I'll need to go through these sources as well, but it's a good start.


[03-Jan-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, a list of facts is clearly an opinion


[03-Jan-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
???


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ahahahahahha there it is


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, totally 3 lists of shootings is left wing horseshit, clearly


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
doubting the veracity of it based on WELL IT COULD JUST BE THE INTERPRETATION


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
okay, so it's not the *criteria*


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
the list composition is heavily dependant on pre-existing biases of the author. Like I said, I haven't yet seen these lists specifically.


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I was pretty damn close to his actual "rebuttal"


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has many authors


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh there it is again


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He hasn't seen the lists yet


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it updates everytime news reports a new shootings


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
obviously. Public opinion.


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's just assuming they're biased


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND THEREFORE, they are!


[03-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No need to investigate sources, guys.


[03-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Crow, the second time on sources was the Mexico thing. Nebbie argued about his miniguns and whatever fantasy as root of all evil, I was skeptical. He linked me his sources, I googled some of my own on AWB. After studying them in as much depth as I was able to, I conceeded that his theory was plasible, with many limitations that he ignored, and the issue was more or less resolved.


[03-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
now it could be I promised something like this way back when and didn't follow through. For that, I apologise.


[03-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes


[03-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he took it as "PLAUSIBLE" that this massive increase in gun usage by cartels


[03-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
right after the US had a massive increase in gun availability


[03-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
paired with clear examples of literally miniguns being sold to cartels


[03-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
might be like, related to each other, y'know


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I guess I'm just in some fantasyland for thinking that a "plausible" theory is actually probably true.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I find it amusing that the article on mass shootings admits there's no definition for what a mass shooting is.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there it is.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
well, no _one_ definition.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that since there isn't a single definition


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody's right


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause it's not like we could choose a definition and use it to interpret the data.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be haram.


[03-Jan-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are many types of mass shootings, yes, there are also many gun types so shooters plan accordingly


[03-Jan-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the guy who used a sniper rifle on a concert accross the street


[03-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, of course there are "limitations I ignored" that he's not going to specify


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
what matters isn't the type of the gun, it's the motive and circumstance.


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, part of Opponent's thing is when he accepts your theory, he's going to just plant little seeds of doubt without ever telling you what they are.


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the type of gun and the fact it happened at all


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Macarou#9574
Basically going "We have concerns" without specifying those concerns


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Macarou#9574
How British of him


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way, he can claim a sort of victory later on, never fully giving up.


[03-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[03-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
had to check the message about 'little seeds of doubt'. I never realised I was being so subtle, thank you.


[03-Jan-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Subtleness only works when people don't notice it.


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
no, my concerns are pretty overt and consistent. I've been intimately familar with government statistics, collecting, processing and publishing thereof (my city's census, various economic data from my district, as well as others via my friends, and so on). One thing I understood about it is, when someone presents you with a neat little graph, it's 80% their preconception of it and 20% hard data. Statistics can be made to say _anything you want_ with a little bit of judicious wiggling.


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
which means I rarely trust it and tend to at least _try_ to find the original sources.


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, now I remember


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
you doubted both Mexican and US statistics


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically you;re trying to argue using ukraince statistics instead of US statistics


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
when both of them went directly against both countries' political interests


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[03-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a universal concept.


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
his argument is all statistics are wrong


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
both Ukrainian and US


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
US _invented_ the playbook we're using, corruption included.


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that since everyone's wrong


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and nobody's right


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's right.


[03-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both Sides Are Liars So Vote Republican.


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyobody is wrong, so vote giant laser asteroid 2020


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
trying to argue 'mass shootings' or 'gun control' using our data vs yours would be incredibly silly, if maybe good for a laugh. Mass shooting isn't a thing there, there's no phenomenon to go with the term.


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
while guns are... as available as you want them to be, if you have money and don't mind breaking the 'law'.


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, we have gun control data from other countries who've implemented voluntary buybacks and whatnot


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
people simply don't do it.


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch i provided you with 3 fucking articles on a shit load of them


[03-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, you don't believe that any articles are right.


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
gun violence and deaths go way down


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, yes. I'm going through them.


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Croooow, what if all the countries are lyiiiiiing


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s like saying the flue doesnt happen because anti vaxxers are a thing


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a coordinated effort by the uh...international league of anti gun moms from the future


[03-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
obviously.


[03-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
US, Mexico, UK, Australia statistics all say gun control works, at least in specific ways?


[03-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Macarou#9574
"We have concerns"


[03-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the US wants guns everywhere, Mexico wants guns nowhere, the UK wants guns only used against immigrants, and Australia hasn't seen a gun in 10 years


[03-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEREFORE


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are all making up the same exact lies!


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we should disregard their data!


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
people lumped in police chases following robberies, suspects of murder, hate crimes, hostage incident in a bank, school shooting (just one, the entire year, the way media says it it happens every other day), jees what else.


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
a couple of those could probably be prevented by gun control, yeah.


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure people will take hostages in banks with batons if we ban guns.


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that prevalence of guns isn't the only reason US has so many shootings; the culture and society itself is uberfucked


[03-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But all those guns everywhere certainly don't help


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has a hostile fucking culture


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gun culture is linked to racism in the US


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, I should amend the above


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything is linked to racism in the US


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
everything is linked to racism in the US, accoding to Nebbie.


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
US wants guns everywhere except in the homes of minorities


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
don't be Nebbie.


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everything


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
except when being used to shoot them


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well actually


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ronald Reagan passed Cali's strict gun control law


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Macarou#9574
It is though Opponent.


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
With bakking by the NRA


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wasn't exaggerating


[03-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because a blakk guy got beat by police


[03-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now we literally have the dhs blaming child porn on latinos being able to drive


[03-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so blakk guys carried assault rifles with ammo loaded around


[03-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and stood on the state capital's steps


[03-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's pretty fuckin racist


[03-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure is weird how the NRA and Ronald Reagan said different things when it was white guys with guns


[03-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure is weird how the NRA lobbied to get SCOTUS to say 2nd amendment would invalidate laws identical to Cali's


[03-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In places where there weren't blakk guys ready to take up arms to protect themselves from the police.


[03-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[03-Jan-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was sure coincidental that housing that helps minority families was banned in favor of single family suburban housing


[03-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of massively-available guns in the US is so white people can shoot minorities.


[03-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of pure coincidence


[03-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also the point of the police having guns.


[03-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has mostly unarmed police and they do *fine*.


[03-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, society's just all-around better when there isn't easy access to rapidly-moving pieces of metal that tear out your organs.


[03-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Can you guys collect the pictures of Bernie rubbing his hands like a Jewish caricature so we can put them in our pieces shilling Buttigieg?"


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, US culture is fukked


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
criminals are not supervillains


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav limited creativity


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
limited funds


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
limited time


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Macarou#9574
Limited space


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the time they are going to just get a fukking knife.


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
limited dimensions


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you know what? That makes them less deadly, even when they do rob shit.


[03-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
YES we should include a robbery where 5 people get shot in mass shootings


[03-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't fukking *care* if it's semantically wrong


[03-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
the POINT of it is that we DO NOT want 5 people getting shot.


[03-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what people were *trying* to do while they shot 5 people.


[03-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if we can get robberies to mostly use knives


[03-Jan-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot harder to stab 5 people.


[03-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But what if


[03-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/the-punisher-a-gun-that-shoots-swords.jpg

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[03-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If every school shooter instead uses pipe bombs, then hey, that's a lot harder to pull off, and a police officer can easily stop them instantly.


[03-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We might as well go full accelerationist and actually literally interpret the 2nd Amendment


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus, all that hiding that schools encourage would HELP MORE


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would mean kids that hide in bathrooms are basically safe


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Shall not be infringed" means no infringement at all, and _any_ gun law is infringement


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disband ATF


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let people own RPGs and flame throwers


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a view I'm amazed more don't have


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should be arming ourselves with miniguns placed atop our cars!


[03-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Macarou#9574
And Rail guns, when those are made available


[03-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the entire conservative mindset is based on knowing only enuff at the time to say liberals are actually the real shitty ones


[03-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
knowing any more than that can break the illusion and destroy the ideology.


[03-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea isn't to faithfully interpret the constitution, or any law


[03-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's to interpret it just enuff, in just the right manner, that it screws over minorities.


[03-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Ronald Reagan passed that law.


[03-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is like, the reason conservatives want "religious freedom" and similar laws is


[03-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want laws to be an excuse they turn to to justify shitty behavior


[03-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
not something that can act on its own to determine what behavior to do.


[03-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, they can pull over a blakk guy driving a car because "I smelled weed" and also say that a white woman was wrongfully searched just cause she was fumbling around in her dashboard


[03-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
reading through the 'comprehensive' list, absolute majority of those seem to be not hate crimes, not desperation, not even for-profit crime, but either gang activity or escalating fights.


[03-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
By having a law on the books worded just right they can refer to.


[03-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so let's make it hard for gangs to arm themselves.


[03-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so thne make it hard for gangs to arm themselves and make it so thye cant smuggle guns form other states


[03-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's ban the types of guns they prefer


[03-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and highly monitor the kinds they don't


[03-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
both of those, yeah, nah. Fights can be just as deadly with knives (in the case of 4-5 people involved), and gang activity, if horrible racist police isn't going to suppress them entirely, gun control wouldn't matter much.


[03-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that they're less powerful against each other and we can then smoke them out.


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knives are slwoer in a fight and you can bring a fist to a knife fight and still be effective


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, look at what states they happen in


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you bring a fist to gun fight, you better be faster than a goddamned bullet


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
fist has a good stopping power, but knife can be immediately or delayed lethal.


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
don't bring fist to a knife fight. You'll live longer.


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cali having a complete ban on loaded weapons in public is not the norm.


[03-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's beside the point.


[03-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns beat knives beat fists.


[03-Jan-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unexpected knife fights dont really give you opportunity to brign a knife to aknife fight


[03-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Knife wounds are much more recoverable than gun wounds btw


[03-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of attempted murders don't become actual murders.


[03-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, usually the safest option is disengage, another is pull a gun. Still though, that's hardly relevant.


[03-Jan-20 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also knifes dont explode your organs on impact you have time to treat the wounds


[03-Jan-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with guns is they tear a hole in you


[03-Jan-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if you recover, the nerves are shot.


[03-Jan-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
A gunshot to your arm can leave you disabled for life.


[03-Jan-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very hard to do that with knives.


[03-Jan-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even better odds if the would be murderer is dumb enough to leave the knife in the wound


[03-Jan-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you have a blood plug keeping the blood from rushing out of you


[03-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah


[03-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's cases of people who go to the hospital not believing they've been stabbed


[03-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few mirrors later, they can see the knife


[03-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
how tho


[03-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human physiology is nuts.


[03-Jan-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the crazy shit is the sharper soemthing is the less you feel the cut


[03-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most animals can't really deal with injuries


[03-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But since we're social and dextrous, we can


[03-Jan-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if a knife is really fucking sharp you may not even realize it happened until it;s pointed out to you


[03-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
oh that. Yeah, adrenaline suppresses the pain, especially if you used to it (professional athelete, or heavy workout, etc). Esp in winter, when you don't see the blood, the moment you notice something's wrong is when you black out of blood loss.


[03-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the body is just like "alright, adrenaline time, and let's go find somebody else" instead of "curl up in the corner and hope we make it while sleeping heavily"


[03-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
One time I climbed on some rokks as a kid while circling bakk after going down a river a ways during a scavenger hunt


[03-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The teacher then pointed out my hand was completely covered in blood


[03-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hadn't noticed.


[03-Jan-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s even crazier in children


[03-Jan-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
there are important physiological responses to hypovolemia and hypotension particularly that induced by wounds


[03-Jan-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
to say that other animals can't deal with it isn't quite right


[03-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another time, in high school on the bus, another kid decided to cut my bakkpakk strap with a knife


[03-Jan-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I realized this about 15 minutes later when I turned around to face a guy to talk to him, and noticed my hands on the seat had a cut on each finger on the joint


[03-Jan-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Linked way before, but <https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/exclusive-unredacted-ukraine-documents-reveal-extent-of-pentagons-legal-concerns/> is a necessary read for everyone


[03-Jan-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, when the knife had been pulled away, it broke the skin on several fingers at once.


[03-Jan-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a bit of skin stikking out as a result


[03-Jan-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, most animals hav a pain response indicating injury to retreat somewhere safe.


[03-Jan-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Humans are unusual because we often just continue being active; it's an evolutionary thing where we're less likely to die if we go around mingling with others, cause they can actually help us.


[03-Jan-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
humans have that response too..


[03-Jan-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, if we notice the pain


[03-Jan-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of my aunts got stabbed in the street once at random


[03-Jan-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She thought the attacker had just bumped into her until several minutes later when she noticed the wetness from the blood


[03-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-money-buying-silence-farmer-subsidies-933019/

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[03-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Farm subsidies have now hit a 14-year high after the USDA sent out payments of approximately $16 billion in aid in 2019 and $12 billion in 2018. The two-year total of $28 billion paid to American farmers tops the auto-industry bailout following the 2008 financial crisis by billions.


[03-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> The other key differences between the auto bailout and the recent farm subsidies, NPR points out, are the lack of debate surrounding the payoffs and the fact that they were not authorized by Congress. Considering it can be argued this is a self-inflicted wound caused by the president, and at an enormous cost to taxpayers, one would think the subsidies would be more controversial. The unprecedented payments are mostly compensation for losses incurred from Trump’s tariff war with China, which has triggered crops to fall in value.


[03-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
**the fact that they were not authorized by Congress**


[03-Jan-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
> But Trump is paying off those affected by his decisions, effectively buying their silence. “The sector that is hurt the most, and which would normally complain, all of a sudden it’s assuaged by these payments. To me, that’s a problem,” the USDA’s former chief economist Joe Glauber told NPR.


[03-Jan-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
trump is unilaterally using tax money as hush money to buy support from the farmers


[03-Jan-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure this is impeachable


[03-Jan-20 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
> NPR goes on to report that, according to studies from independent economists, the government is subsidizing farmers by almost double their losses from “actual harm suffered from the trade war,” with larger farms reaping the biggest rewards — which, again, are coming from taxpayers.


[03-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit dude, trump's literally stealing money from taxpayers to bribe farmers to vote for him


[03-Jan-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[03-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachable, unconstitutional, basically the kind of handouts conservatives say they hate...


[03-Jan-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/476532-conservatives-ask-judge-for-purge-of-voters-in-wisconsin

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Conservatives ask judge to force purge of 200,000 voters in Wisconsin
A conservative law firm in Wisconsin asked a judge Thursday to find the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) in contempt and fine its members $2,000 a day until the commission purges more than 200,000 voters from the rolls.
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[03-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/02/middleeast/baghdad-airport-rockets/index.html

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[03-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things are getting spicy


[03-Jan-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 Iran War


[03-Jan-20 03:15 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMLmOukbco

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CBS News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMLmOukbco
Politico: Democratic insiders say Sanders could win nomination
A new article in Politico examines Senator Bernie Sanders' chances of winning the democratic presidential nomination. David Siders, one of the authors of that article, joined CBSN to talk about Sanders' path to the nomination.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2zMLmOukbco/maxresdefault.jpg


[03-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA

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Ven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcpiM3SSOA
Bernie sanders gonna cry? Gonna shit your pants maybe?
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[03-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh nice, Vox made a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqWRyBCHhw

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How the US stole thousands of Native American children
The long and brutal history of the US trying to “kill the Indian and save the man”.

For more of Vox's reporting on Indigenous Peoples' Day, check out the latest episode of Today Explained: https://art19.com/shows/today-explained/episodes/b3c90450-3efd-49ad-b03a-255bc85aa...
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[03-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only did the US gov't abduct native kids to strip their culture


[03-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
they often then gave them away to white families rather than let them return to their parents.


[03-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if the family wasn't a nuclear one (too many kids, or aunt/uncle in the household).


[03-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Useful things to remember, @Itsthinking @Crow


[03-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
my mom watched a sort of dramatization/documentary on that, one of the things she supports heavily is native rights


[03-Jan-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[03-Jan-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oof


[03-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interesting, Fox News HATES ICWA, Crow


[03-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like that the act made it so tribes actually had legal rights to say maybe indian kids shouldn't be adopted en masse by whites who want to eradicate their culture.


[03-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That they paint it as a loving foster family having a child they deserve ripped away is telling.


[03-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
(how dare those SAVAGES get their kids bakk etc.)


[03-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
she hasn't watched fox news in years


[03-Jan-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1212923617056571392

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#BREAKING Additional President @realDonaldTrump approved the U.S. drone strike this morning that killed Quds Force Commander Qassem Soleimani and two senior Iraqi militia officials, per Pentagon sources. https://t.co/2d02ogcM8g
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[03-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where does she get her conservative nonsense currently? Breitbart?


[03-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
all her news comes directly from sean hannity, rush limbaugh, mark levin, and some guy named dan bongino, all from their radio talk shows


[03-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
dan bongino apparently used to be in the secret service, so she takes him as an expert on all things presidential


[03-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Macarou#9574
I kind of expected that she'd also be listening to Mark Collet for some reason


[03-Jan-20 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-blasted-for-tweeting-usa-flag-with-no-words-as-world-worries-he-may-have-started-war-with-iran/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump blasted for tweeting USA flag — with no words — as world...
State TV in Iraq reports Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani was killed at the Baghdad airport. Soleimani is a revered figure in Iran and analysts worry Iran will be forced to escalate tensions with their expected response. Trump took to Twitter following the reports. He did not cla...
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[03-Jan-20 03:48 AM] illumnious#7938
pathetic


[03-Jan-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/apoure25/status/1212917459751190528?s=20

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Air Mobility Command heavies outbound from Hunter AAF... h/t @squawk1030
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[03-Jan-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jan-20 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A lot of people are gonna die :xd: :xd: :xd:


[03-Jan-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
:xd:


[03-Jan-20 04:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck this society man


[03-Jan-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A war to distract from being impeached, eh?


[03-Jan-20 04:46 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/by_kriti/status/1212940512061054977?s=20

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kriti🦋 (@by_kriti)
https://twitter.com/by_kriti/status/1212940512061054977?s=20
Two days into 2020 and there’s talk of WWIII?????? https://t.co/5OJowTieLT
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[03-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRCY8FqoyQ

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Cringe Panda
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Award winning teacher Kerstin Westcott's resignation speech in Gre...
SUBSCRIBE AND SHARE! Please be civil in the comments section. Unfortunately YouTube penalizes (and censors) channels based on the comments section.  No 3rd rate edgelords turning the comments into a dumpster fire, thank you. UPDATE: A followup  speech was given on July 10. Se...
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[03-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

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Millennium Challenge 2002
Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) was a major war game exercise conducted by the United States Armed Forces in mid-2002. The exercise, which ran from July 24 to August 15 and cost $250 million, involved both live exercises and computer simulations. MC02 was meant to be a test ...


[03-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that a war game in 2002 simulating an invasion of iran by the US ended in over 20,000 "deaths" and billions of dollars in lost equipment for the US team when the "iranian" team was in a defending position, so they suspended and restarted the war games, forcing a script that ended in overwhelming US victory


[03-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
> After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory.


[03-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Opponent#3498
things changed in 17 years since then, I imagine.


[03-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
US military doctrine hasn't had a reason to change in decades


[03-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
it turned out the same thing that happened in vietnam happened in afghanistan, it's just been better covered up


[03-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
though at a much smaller scale


[03-Jan-20 05:50 AM] Opponent#3498
tech changed. The lessons were likely learned, regardless of a decision to make a dog and pony show out of it.


[03-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
reading all the stuff, Afghanistan wasn't a problem of military doctrine. The problem was in the goals, or rather, their absence.


[03-Jan-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/141604554855825408

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/141604554855825408
In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran.
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[03-Jan-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[03-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Yuri#4154
There's a Trump tweet for everything

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[03-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Yuri#4154
He's really good at criticising himself


[03-Jan-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/mdDAHekq9yc

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TheraminTrees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdDAHekq9yc
letting go of fixing people
An exploration of some of the reasons our attempts to fix people in abusive situations fail — and how we might approach things differently. 
You can support the channel at: https://www.patreon.com/TheraminTrees
--
opening quote:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who w...
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[03-Jan-20 06:59 AM] ononim#8141
HOLY FUCK


[03-Jan-20 07:00 AM] ononim#8141 (pinned)
USA WHAT THE FUCK

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[03-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
I told my mom about the US bombing the airport to kill that iranian dude, and she basically said that it was obama who forced trump into the position of having to go to war with iran by trying to "appease" iran with the nuclear deal


[03-Jan-20 08:40 AM] ononim#8141
:bigbrain:


[03-Jan-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes this is obamas fault for trying the monstrous child killing act of "diplomacy"


[03-Jan-20 08:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fiend!


[03-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure diplomats and ambassadors globally laud obama's diplomacy in regards to iran, trump's just showing that the US can swing to the opposite of the spectrum at the turn of an election


[03-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
the US is no longer going to be trusted by basically everyone, and the only countries who benefit directly from that reduced global role are russia and china


[03-Jan-20 08:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep...


[03-Jan-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s going to take decades to repair everything if we manage to survive this


[03-Jan-20 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provided we dont fuck it up worse by electinga democratic president, with a republican congressional majority


[03-Jan-20 08:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or trump again with a republican congessional majority


[03-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here we go https://www.vox.com/2020/1/2/21047079/abortion-rights-republicans-call-overturn-roe-v-wade

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Republicans call for overturning Roe v. Wade in Supreme Court filing
As the election year starts, over 200 lawmakers are taking an ideological stand against abortion.
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[03-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they pulled this a little too early, and it'll probably fail, and hurt their reelection chances.


[03-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/02/amazon-threatens-to-fire-employees-who-speak-out-on-climate-change.html

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Amazon threatens to fire employees who speak out on climate change
The company warned two employees that they could be terminated if they continue to speak out publicly about the business.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106139308-1568922316186gettyimages-1169493343.jpeg?v=1577986703


[03-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically shut up publicly, you're only allowed to suggest improvements internally [so we can stifle them and profit off a burning planet]


[03-Jan-20 09:37 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so do you think republicans would be successful on roe


[03-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh's a shill for sure, but he isn't everything.


[03-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing the state law to stand would be a brazen move saying abortion can be fully illegalized.


[03-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
brazen moves like that don't sit well with Chief Justice Roberts.


[03-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their failure now will cement their failure later.


[03-Jan-20 11:07 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it kinda sounds like trump ordered the GOP to start doing everything it can to make noise in 2020


[03-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that following trump's orders is like allowing a drunk toddler to drive a semi truck


[03-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
he quite literally started the year off with a war-starting bang


[03-Jan-20 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
and now suddenly republicans are screaming for no more abortion? doesn't seem coincidental to me


[03-Jan-20 12:10 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  ignore the war and think of the children 
- some Orange guy


[03-Jan-20 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e0e2864e4b0843d360f5cc7

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Congress Begins New Year With No Deal On Trump's Impeachment Trial
Leaders of both parties are at an impasse over whether to guarantee witness testimony.
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[03-Jan-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell is just itching to throw it in a shredder and never look back


[03-Jan-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why no one is giving him the articles yet because that's exactly what would happen if they did


[03-Jan-20 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would let everyone give an opening statement call the jury to vote on passing it or not and walk away smug as the articles get shredded by his colleagues


[03-Jan-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no witnesses. no real trial, no real show aside from grandstanding, just a 1 day trial and thne into the shredder


[03-Jan-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moscow mitch the oligarch theif should be orderedto recuse himself anyway along with lindsey grahm but there;s no one who can really make him do that


[03-Jan-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jan-20 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah, get them! No way Iraqis could be angry at americans doing something so little and insignificant as comitting a drone strike in their country!


[03-Jan-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
God I fucki g hate USA so much


[03-Jan-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jan-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[03-Jan-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Mike_Eagle/status/1212916542830067712?s=20

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Open Mike Eagle (@Mike_Eagle)
https://twitter.com/Mike_Eagle/status/1212916542830067712?s=20
theres an impeached president sitting in the situation room authorizing international assassinations without congressional approval
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[03-Jan-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_EzNqttPE

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Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_EzNqttPE
Watch live soon: McConnell, Schumer to speak on Senate floor amid ...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) are both scheduled to deliver floor speeches amid the impasse over the scope and timing of an impeachment trial of President Trump. Read more: https://wapo.st/2tsOJR4. Subscribe to ...
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[03-Jan-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moscow mitch the presidential knob cleaner


[03-Jan-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knob cleaner said "trump derangement syndrome" unironically


[03-Jan-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
isn't... he the one with trump derangement syndrome?


[03-Jan-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just projection


[03-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We didnt remove clinton, so why should we remove trump?"


[03-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The oath doesnt hold me to responsibility, fuck you all for holding me to my oath!"


[03-Jan-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fuck your demand for impartiality, i'll be as impartial as i want while projecting it onto you!"


[03-Jan-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he said tds again and said it was a bad case of amnesia regarding the clinton trials


[03-Jan-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
projection partisanship!


[03-Jan-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/IranIntlbrk/status/1212994739097755648?s=19

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ایران اینترنشنال - خبر فوری (@IranIntlbrk)
https://twitter.com/IranIntlbrk/status/1212994739097755648?s=19
@IranIntl سخنگوی سپاه پاسداران: مقدمات نابودی اسرائیل فراهم شده است
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[03-Jan-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Spokesman for the Revolutionary Guards: The preparations for the destruction of Israel have been made


[03-Jan-20 06:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3044606/senior-part-time-hong-kong-police-officer-suspended

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Senior part-time police officer suspended over suspected protests leak
The 48-year-old acting auxiliary police superintendent, surnamed Lo, is the first officer to be suspended over misconduct allegations since protests began in June.
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[03-Jan-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jan-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/3/1909205/-Explosive-report-indicates-that-Donald-Trump-s-loans-from-Deutsche-Bank-were-back-by-Russia

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Explosive report indicates that Donald Trump's loans from Deutsche...
The reasons that Donald Trump would need a massive distraction at this point are numerous. Every day seems to produce fresh evidence that the White House was fully aware that Trump’s delay of military assistance to Ukraine was simply against the law,...
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[03-Jan-20 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
non dailykos source?


[03-Jan-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
source site is down and reporting seems dubious


[03-Jan-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
not that I doubt the veracity of such claims, but still


[03-Jan-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not finding any so maybe it's not accurate...


[03-Jan-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the hearign feed cut out


[03-Jan-20 07:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) source for that anime girl pic you posted above here pls?


[03-Jan-20 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no idea


[03-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i found soemthing i think


[03-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://weneverlearn.fandom.com/wiki/Fumino_Furuhashi

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Fumino Furuhashi
Fumino Furuhashi (古橋文乃, Furuhashi Fumino) is one of the main heroines of the We Never Learn series. Fumino is a tall girl with a slender build. She has blue silky waist-length hair (dark blue in...
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[03-Jan-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@jlun2


[03-Jan-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also imgur if you meant the meme itself


[03-Jan-20 08:12 PM] xbi#0900
I am curios why 2FA with cellphone as forced second authentication. Actually 1.5FA, because cellphone often allows to restore other person password after negotiations with support.
I don't understand why last 10 years all sites and applications trying to advertise as it is security benefit for me.
The cellphone number can be blocked by hundreds different reasons. Staff mistakes, robots mistakes, bank payment mistakes, etc. Malicious staff and goverment enforcement to block someone. There are 10'000s-sized staff in large tellecomunication companies who have access to clients database and can re-issue SIM-card. I don't trust 10000 low paid unqualified people.
The cellphone number can be re-registered to other people, they are often reused. 

I could understand 2FA with one master password and many other secondary passwords. One is is master password, used to control other passwords (or randomly generated tokens). Secondary are used for authentication on different devices. The master password one is used very rarely to control tokens or secondary passwords. 
In this scheme me and only me  control the master password. Not some tellecomunication company, who can block me without any reasons, just at will or by mistake. 

I can understand protection against spamers, because getting 1000000 SIM cards is little harder to get than to write script to create 1000000 users on site with forced 2FA with cellphone. But this is not about securing my account, but about service protection against robots and getting my information to spam me more text SMS with ads.


[03-Jan-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@xbi most 2FA is not phone based


[03-Jan-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it's HOTP and TOTP


[03-Jan-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
which do not depend on the unreliable and easily-spoofable phone number


[03-Jan-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the only way to break these systems is to steal the secret from the authenticator device


[03-Jan-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
and that's how we do it here actually


[03-Jan-20 08:26 PM] xbi#0900
Ok, thx, I read a bit wikipedia article about HOTP and looked at derpi settings, they doing it other way. This rant is about large sites like google and twitter who are forcing me to give them my cellphone number. But I can't be sure this number will not stop working suddenly and service rules about this are very unclear. Also it is often used to advertise to all people with my number in their phone book taken by Twitter/Facebook/Google that I joined some service (often implictly with "suggested friends")


[03-Jan-20 08:34 PM] xbi#0900
Also it seems as hypocrisy for messenger like 'telegram' which asks me the phone number at the same advertising itself as privacy-oriented messanger, with privacy setting disabled by default. Like p2p encryption requires extra actions and not available at PC client. And advertising my name/number connection to all other people. So people who uses privacy settings can be easily seached in their database or with potential second channel data leak (like analysis of size and frequency of network packets)


[03-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> privacy-oriented messanger, with privacy setting disabled by default


[03-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[03-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah telegram is shit


[03-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
i use it for stickers :3


[03-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
I had an account there, my phone number got disabled.


[03-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
it was fine, until one day the desktop app crashed and corrupted it's saved data


[03-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I couldn't enter because the only alternative option to a phone was 'we'll send the details to your OTHER DEVICE'


[03-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
which were never there, because I only ever used it on PC


[03-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
developers said 'welp, sucks to be you, bye'


[03-Jan-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
#likeabusiness 😂


[03-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
reminds me of that one article someone linked here, about a trans person being told by the owner of a restaraunt they worked in (?) that if they wanted to be considered a woman, they'd recieve less pay to be in line with others.


[03-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
this is that. On government level.


[03-Jan-20 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-courts-a-wary-oil-patch-1532424600

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[03-Jan-20 10:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://gizmodo.com/how-google-microsoft-and-big-tech-are-automating-the-1832790799

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How Google, Microsoft, and Big Tech Are Automating the Climate Crisis
In a deal that made few ripples outside the energy industry, two very large but relatively obscure companies, Rockwell Automation and Schlumberger Limited, announced a joint venture called Sensia. The new company will “sell equipment and services to advance digital technolo...
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[03-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Mani#1404
So is WW3 really starting.


[03-Jan-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont knwo for sure but if it;s up to trump and putin,. then yes


[03-Jan-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the american senate isnt going to stop trump, everything trump does is for power, which they want to keep forever


[03-Jan-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump is basically ignoring the house because moscow mitch the knob cleaner makes sure they cant do anything


[03-Jan-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now google is fucking over people even harder thna they did with youtube by automating pollution


[03-Jan-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
of course they should skip it. Let Huawei get all the US contracts instead.


[03-Jan-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing tencent, they have some stake in the automation of pollution as well


[03-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
'automation of pollution' is such a lefty thing to say, and I don't mean that in a good way.


[03-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
you want someone to blame? Blame the users, not the providers.


[03-Jan-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i blame both


[03-Jan-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to you every criticism of a problem is such a lefty thing to say


[03-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the specific wording of it that makes it iffy. Very emotional. 'Compassion' is what Nebbie calls it.


[03-Jan-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
also by this logic every single person ever working with or around oil, automobile, heavy industry and so on is guilty by association. Or at least anyone with any decision-making power, because of course the worker is always oppressed and entirely innocent.


[03-Jan-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tech companies sell thme the automation, without the tech companies the automation wouldnt exist


[03-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. This logic is what I'm talking about.


[03-Jan-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this tech will also be used to fire whatever low level employees thye have and just make mining robots


[03-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
wow, one of the most highly lucrative job postings in the world will lose a few people.


[03-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
a tradegy of a working class.


[03-Jan-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything about automation is cost cuttign corners, with automation comes the ability to run a business without paying employees for the qwork the automated machines will now do instead, so yes everyone involved is guilty by association because anyone left wont be doingit to support their families


[03-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
automation is the future, whether you like it or not.


[03-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
neoluddites is like antivaxxers in a sense.


[03-Jan-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
extinction is the future if this keeps going


[03-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
perhaps. But automation is it no matter what.


[03-Jan-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my point wasnt that automation is going to kill employment in the  oil business, my point was that google and other silicone valley fucks are automating the oil industry and making pollution worse


[03-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a bold-faced lie.


[03-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
the tool, no matter what the tool is, doesn't have an agenda.


[03-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
never blame the tool, or the tool maker. It just makes you look... very quaint.


[03-Jan-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter if it doesnt have an agenda, the point is it;s still doing it anyway agenda or not


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't do anything.


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
people use it to do things.


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it automates the oil industry


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
so?


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you not knwo what the oil industry is?


[03-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
evidently I do not. Educate me.


[03-Jan-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
read thew fucking articles and educate yourself


[03-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
big brain response there.


[03-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie at least can keep up.


[03-Jan-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter what i say, everything with you is deflection


[03-Jan-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the automation is going to fuck over the environment worse? nah, thatls just left wing nonsense


[03-Jan-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oil industry isnt doing anythign wrong with thisa technology, byproducts dont matter at all


[03-Jan-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a tool is just a tool after all, we should jsut use the nhukes because those are also tools!


[03-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
automation is a tool and the way to better the entire world with the right approach. The current neolib approach isn't right. And people like you are trying to destroy something great in vain hopes that things will go back to the way they were.


[03-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
that glorious moment when the distinction between the left and the right simply vanishes and two become one again.


[03-Jan-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my piint isnt to kill automation, my point is that the oil industry shouldnt have it


[03-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
the irony of it is, this has been done before.


[03-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
luddites were an actual thing. Born of the many of the same roots, the workers feeling they were being replaced by automation.


[03-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
well, governments back then didn't tolerate that nonsence.


[03-Jan-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You said it yourself, if used right it can better the world. The oil industry wont use it right, they will use it to strip mine the planet until it;s a barren fuckign wasteland with an automated force that wont talk back to them


[03-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe. So change the user, not the tool.


[03-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
we're back to my original argument.


[03-Jan-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we need to block access to oil companies buying automated tools


[03-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
first, that's impossible. Second, that's very stupid and doesn't solve any issues.


[03-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, whatever.


[03-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie I summon ye.


[03-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah impossible like oil companies lobbying to block access to solar panels


[03-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, that happened


[03-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. They can do it. 'Workers' or w/e cannot.


[03-Jan-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
unless you somehow crowdfund enough to provide consistent funding for lobby or something xD


[03-Jan-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so your arguement then is not that it;s impossible it;s that it;s improbable


[03-Jan-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is totally possible to block oil indiustry access to automation, but it;s unlikely to happen because money is against it


[03-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
the probability is statistically insignificant. It has never done before, there are no obvious signs for it to happen, there's no initiatives going attempting to make it happen.


[03-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
been done*


[03-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
besides, it doesn't solve the problem and is very stupid. That is a certainty.


[03-Jan-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok then what do you propose?


[03-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
ideally? Tackle the lobbying issue, the fact that it's possible at all is a source of endless problems, money should not directly translate into political power with this low effort. It will translate anyway, in one way or another, but legal bribery is ridiculous.
'Tax the rich' is a slap in the face, if anything, but it's better than nothing. 
then, if we're talking miracles, do _something_ about China and India (especially the former) not giving two shits about international climate agreements they signed. Way outside the realm of reason, less likely than 'block automation', which is saying something, but it's what has to be done to _really_ make a difference.


[03-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
solve the source of the issue. At least consider it.


[03-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
even gun control has more going for it than 'fight automation' thing.


[03-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
if for no other reason than weapons being sports-hunting-fighting, pretty limited application. Robotics, AI and automation in general has basicly unlimited potential use.


[04-Jan-20 12:08 AM] illumnious#7938

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[04-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/us/methodist-split-gay-marriage.html

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Under an agreement to be voted on in May, a new “traditionalist Methodist” denomination would continue to ban same-sex marriage and gay and lesbian clergy.
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[04-Jan-20 12:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
inb4 every single Christian will have their own sect


[04-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Laughs in Luther_


[04-Jan-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
you pretty much hit the nail on the head with the protestants @IAmADeliciousPotato


[04-Jan-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
and it turns out it's a _lot_ easier to hide pedos when there's no central organization reports have to be given to


[04-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.scribd.com/document/441601742/Forensic-News-Article-12-3

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[04-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's the original source for the "donald trump's loans are backed by russia" thing


[04-Jan-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, i was just about to post that


[04-Jan-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently after the article got posted on several sites, those sites had a massive flare in crashes


[04-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, we should be cutting back on oil production, not pushing forward with automating it to increase production


[04-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
we should. But the push towards it increase will continue, automation or not.


[04-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not driven by the ability to do so.


[04-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it's driven by greed.


[04-Jan-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/qassem-soleimani-death-experts-warn-iran-cyberattacks-against-america-2020-1

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Iran's 'forceful revenge' against the US is likely to include cybe...
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[04-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Attack the power grid in Michigan on November 3


[04-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1183130243885875200

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The Endless Wars Must End!
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[04-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
he said this october 12, 2019


[04-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
less than 3 months later, he's killed a foreign leader in a unilateral bombing


[04-Jan-20 02:27 AM] illumnious#7938
starts with him out of the house


[04-Jan-20 02:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-only-motivations-are-ego-and-self-interest-so-how-would-war-with-iran-benefit-him-personally/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump’s only motivations are ego and self-interest — so how wo...
When my phone screen flashed Thursday night with a notification that an American air strike had killed Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, a top Iranian military leader who was running a clandestine war reaching into Iraq and Syria, I doubt I was alone in asking this question: How do...
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[04-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/opinions/trump-ukraine-legal-bombshell-opinion-ghitis/index.html

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This is the bombshell Trump's team didn't want revealed
Newly released emails show why Trump refuses to put forward a defense as he faces an impeachment trial. He has no defense, writes Frida Ghitis
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[04-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the big takeaway is that they knew they were violating USC 2 Section 683 b.


[04-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's huge


[04-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
While a lot of people hav pointed out said violation, there's always been this uncertainty about the way it's supposed to be interpreted, leaving some room to say actually it's 45 days after the fiscal year, etc.


[04-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this points out the administration itself did not interpret it that way, and did these things anyways.


[04-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
where does it mention that? I'm not seeing it in the article


[04-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impoundment Control Act


[04-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just put it in terms of the specific statute


[04-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
useful if you want to argue with dumbshit conservatives


[04-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
what about the dumbshit conservatives that're impressed by how he's flaunting the law


[04-Jan-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, my mom's position on the US bombing of the baghdad airport has evolved into saying that the US has every right to bomb any country we like as long as we're killing terrorists


[04-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the majority of them go "NO STATUTE VIOLATED"


[04-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/2742111f6d0489313da688557d1123e8

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Trump: Aim of killing Iranian general was to 'stop a war'
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday he ordered the killing of a top Iranian general “to stop a war,” not start one, but in the tense aftermath the Pentagon braced for retaliation...
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[04-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[04-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
committing war acts to stop a war, seems legit


[04-Jan-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
> The ramifications of Trump’s decision to kill Soleimani were still coming into focus Friday; they could include an end to the U.S. military partnership with Iraq in fighting the Islamic State extremist group. Some Iraqi politicians called the attack, which also killed an Iraqi general, a violation of Iraqi sovereignty and questioned whether U.S. forces should be expelled. The U.S. has about 5,200 troops in Iraq, mostly to train and advise Iraqi forces fighting IS.


[04-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I asked my mom what the US would do if china bombed a US international airport in order to kill the taiwanese president while she was meeting pence and ended up killing pence as well, she says the US wouldn't go to war with china over that


[04-Jan-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
it's fucking ridiculous the mental hoops she's willing to jump through in order to paint the US bombing this dude as not a war act


[04-Jan-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
her main justification seems to be that he's "just another terrorist" like bin laden


[04-Jan-20 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
when bin laden wasn't the third highest person in an official government


[04-Jan-20 04:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I haven't seen news for weeks... What the hell happened these days?


[04-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
the US bombed the baghdad international airport to take out the third most powerful official in the iranian government and killed an iraqi general in the same bombing


[04-Jan-20 04:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Um...


[04-Jan-20 04:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is Iran the country where women are forced to cover the whole body with black curtains?


[04-Jan-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow where do you live, and are other boomers there like that too?


[04-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
I live in california


[04-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
the conservatives here went insane after the californian GOP imploded


[04-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
@AlchemistLiang, no, that's saudi arabia


[04-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
in iran, they're just forced to cover their hair


[04-Jan-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
huh. ty. any resources on that outside "calfornia gop" on google?


[04-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
she's kinda been this way since trump was elected though


[04-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
the california GOP unofficially died in 2018, basically no one's voting for republicans in california anymore


[04-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
it still technically exists, but it just doesn't have any pull to do anything in the state anymore, and a lot of republicans ran as independent in 2018 instead


[04-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Macarou#9574
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OjMPJVmXxV8/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Yuri#4154
Nearly two hours long


[04-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Can't wait to see the nuclear takes this video will generate, considering the recent drama around her


[04-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Macarou#9574
Nearly two hours long, and near the end, she says she needs to make a part two, to finish explaining and exploring cancel culture, she sure does have a lot to say


[04-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Gotta get that ad revenue


[04-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Yuri, what drama?


[04-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't watched a contrapoints video before because they're all too long


[04-Jan-20 06:35 AM] Macarou#9574
Buck Angel is in Opulence, one of her most recent videos, for ten seconds, reading a line from John Waters.


[04-Jan-20 06:36 AM] Macarou#9574
Buck Angel has said some things on twitter that sound Enbyphobic, and Transmedicalist, and Twitter took that, plus his reading one line in Opulence, to mean Contra is also enbyphobic and a truscum


[04-Jan-20 07:00 AM] Opponent#3498
```some things on twitter that sound Enbyphobic, and Transmedicalist```


[04-Jan-20 07:00 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing makes one feel old as seing new words being invented every week


[04-Jan-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
progressives beat each other up over trivialities while conservatives are arsoning the entire village


[04-Jan-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I will never understand this mentality


[04-Jan-20 07:21 AM] Opponent#3498
that's exactly how it looks like yeah.


[04-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Yuri#4154
Twitter was a mistake


[04-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] liberals don't beat each other up, they politely disagree, while conservatives chop up and cannibalize anyone not in agreement


[04-Jan-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is the former group is relatively weak while the latter group is going around arsoning the village with their faces covered in the blood of a dissenter.


[04-Jan-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If liberals actually killed each other over disagreements, they'd be in a stronger position...but would no longer be liberal.


[04-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd just be another conservative faction that either kills or gets killed by the existing one.


[04-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the mentality.


[04-Jan-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/ejh4hk/uelboboson_discusses_how_a_war_with_iran_would_be/

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Posted in r/bestof by u/redheadartgirl • 13,791 points and 1,149 comments
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[04-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
> It’s as big as Germany. Sorry. It has about as many people as Germany. Over 80 million. It’s the 18th most populated country on earth. It’s also the 18th biggest economy in the world as well at about 1.7 Trillion. That’s just behind Canada and Saudi Arabia but hundreds of Billions more than Australia - that underdeveloped defenseless third world country. I didn’t mean to say it was as big as Germany, it’s not even close. It is over 4 times bigger than Germany. It is a massive country with large portions being inhospitable and impassable mountains and deserts. It is not an exaggeration to say that it’s very land is a fortress.


[04-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Invading Iran is invading an economy the size of Texas with nearly 3 times the population and more than twice as much area to cover with 10 times the logistical issues. It would make the Vietnam War seem quaint, short, and clean. This ignores that this would almost certainly lead to a cascading series of events that would incite massive, possibly global war. Nearly every probable scenario would result in the deaths of millions as a result of the conflict and its secondary impacts. To accomplish what goals???


[04-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
this comment is from june


[04-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/ejh4hk/uelboboson_discusses_how_a_war_with_iran_would_be/fcy4zdu/

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Posted in r/bestof by u/redheadartgirl • 13,900 points and 1,152 comments
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[04-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
same guy in the /r/bestof thread


[04-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/politics/military-draft-selective-service-site-crash-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/politics/military-draft-selective-service-site-crash-trnd/index.html
Selective Service System website crashes amid questions and fears ...
The agency tweeted Friday that its website was experiencing high volumes of traffic.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200103170920-us-army-deployment-0101-super-tease.jpg


[04-Jan-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are super worried that trump is going to call the draft back into play if this turns into all out war


[04-Jan-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
he can't legally call back the draft (lol that hasn't stopped him before) without congress


[04-Jan-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
doing it unilaterally would destroy his re-election


[04-Jan-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wonder if he knows this


[04-Jan-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
even among conservatives it'd have like a <30% support rate


[04-Jan-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/12/23/trump-can-launch-nuclear-weapons-whenever-he-wants-with-or-without-mattis/


[04-Jan-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that the president can literally order a nuclear weapon launch for no reason


[04-Jan-20 12:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow from that reddit post you linked 
>  Edit3 - Just had a long conversation with someone in Rep. Ann Wagner’s office. They guessed that Iran had a population of around 500k. Let that sink in. That 1/163 of the right answer. Theran has 18 times that many.


[04-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
lmao @ononim, musk deleted that 69% want tunnels tweet https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1210978527518117889


[04-Jan-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/thousands-of-people-gather-for-the-funeral-of-qassem-soleimani-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/thousands-of-people-gather-for-the-funeral-of-qassem-soleimani-2020-1
Hundreds of thousands of mourners are gathering for the funeral of...
The funeral procession is also for the others killed in the strike, including Iraqi militia leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e1059a2e94e86497661444c?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Jan-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-allies-response-trump-iran-qasem-soleimani-attack-alone-world-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-allies-response-trump-iran-qasem-soleimani-attack-alone-world-2020-1
The United States' main allies are abandoning Trump over his 'dang...
The United States' traditional allies have refused to give their full backing to Trump's strike against Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e0f5932855cc25783199d0c?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Jan-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/662997455213821985/205737d.jpg

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[04-Jan-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/pence-incorrectly-links-iran-to-911-justify-killing-of-soleimani-2020-1

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Pence incorrectly links Iran to 9/11 while trying to justify Ameri...
The official government report on the events leading up to the attacks, known as the 9/11 Commission report, states undermines Pence.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e0fcf60855cc23818666442?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Jan-20 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
that comic was posted not even 2 months before trump bombed the baghdad international airport


[04-Jan-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after this administration the *trump card* will no longer be slang for secret weapon. it will be slang for pulling the stupidest move possible in a situation


[04-Jan-20 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
.qa @prism stryder(intexda) after this administration the trump card will no longer be slang for secret weapon. it will be slang for pulling the stupidest move possible in a situation


[04-Jan-20 02:08 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Crow, quote added (@prism stryder(intexda): after this administration the trump card will no longer be slang for secret weapon. it will be slang for pulling the stupidest move possible in a situation).


[04-Jan-20 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[04-Jan-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh god dammit! Dan pulled the trump card again. now we're going to lose this thing for sure"


[04-Jan-20 02:20 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmmm...


[04-Jan-20 02:21 PM] green_byte#1188
Why is there so much talk about a "world war 3" lately?..


[04-Jan-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because trump pulled a more violent version of what started world war 1


[04-Jan-20 02:22 PM] green_byte#1188
?


[04-Jan-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand

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Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and Franz Ferdinand's wife Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, occurred on 28 June 1914 in Sarajevo when they were mortally wounded by Gavrilo Princip. Princip was one of a gr...
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[04-Jan-20 02:23 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm...


[04-Jan-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may not result in world war 3 but trump basically bombed a bagdahd airport to murder one of irans top fucking generals


[04-Jan-20 02:23 PM] green_byte#1188
I guess this video has something to do with it.


[04-Jan-20 02:24 PM] green_byte#1188
https://youtu.be/in0ol9gj0gs

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TheDC Shorts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in0ol9gj0gs
Iranian Protester Burn U.S. Flag Following Death Of Military Leader
Protesters burned American flags in the streets following the successful U.S. air strike that killed top  Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/in0ol9gj0gs/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Jan-20 02:24 PM] green_byte#1188
Oh.


[04-Jan-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now iran is threatening total cyber warfare over this


[04-Jan-20 02:25 PM] green_byte#1188
Mmm.


[04-Jan-20 02:26 PM] green_byte#1188
Mm..


[04-Jan-20 02:26 PM] green_byte#1188
Happened in the past day.


[04-Jan-20 02:26 PM] green_byte#1188
Ok.


[04-Jan-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this also came just as we were finally starting to pull out of the middle east


[04-Jan-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and all of our allies are abandoning us over this


[04-Jan-20 02:27 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[04-Jan-20 02:28 PM] jlun2#8758
> To top it all off, Amazon itself recently became an actual oil company.
TIL


[04-Jan-20 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking jeff bezos again


[04-Jan-20 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This was trumps move to start war with iran to ensure his re-election in 2020 in the dumbest fashion possible


[04-Jan-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans are eating it up as well because they;ve been wanting iran wiped off the map for at least a decade now


[04-Jan-20 02:31 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[04-Jan-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin warhawks


[04-Jan-20 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/476738-sanders-khanna-introduce-legislation-to-block-funding-for-a-war-with-iran

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Sanders, Khanna introduce legislation to block funding for a war w...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) introduced legislation Friday that would block funding for any offensive military force in or against Iran without prior congressional authorization.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20191219_sandersbernie_gettyimages.jpg


[04-Jan-20 02:32 PM] green_byte#1188
Perfect thing to read first thing in the morning....


[04-Jan-20 02:34 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[04-Jan-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shouldnt evne need this legislation, that;s usually the default power of congress


[04-Jan-20 02:34 PM] green_byte#1188
And the question of the morning.


[04-Jan-20 02:35 PM] green_byte#1188
What the fuck was the bombing for?


[04-Jan-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to jump start war with iran by killing their top general and claming it was to "end the endless war" while trump attempts to ride this wave all the way to re-election


[04-Jan-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was also possibly a slight cover to distract fromt he roe v.wade turnover attempt with the supreme court by republicans


[04-Jan-20 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the only strategy republicans can do anymore are escalation moves


[04-Jan-20 02:41 PM] green_byte#1188
?


[04-Jan-20 02:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  it's  going to work because 🤡


[04-Jan-20 02:41 PM] jlun2#8758
republicans are politically invincible


[04-Jan-20 02:42 PM] green_byte#1188
honesty I only found about this because of a announcement on one of my servers.


[04-Jan-20 02:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte sounds like me for most news lol


[04-Jan-20 02:43 PM] green_byte#1188

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[04-Jan-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theslot.jezebel.com/here-are-207-members-of-congress-who-just-asked-scotus-1840777791

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Here Are the 207 Members of Congress Who Just Asked SCOTUS to Cons...
A coalition of 207 members of Congress on Thursday filed an amicus brief to the Supreme Court asking it to “reconsider” two landmark abortion cases—Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood of Se. PA v. Casey—in an apparent effort to crush reproductive rights at the federal ...
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[04-Jan-20 02:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) are they all old white men


[04-Jan-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[04-Jan-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s pretty much the entirety of the republican party


[04-Jan-20 02:48 PM] green_byte#1188
Or political people in general.


[04-Jan-20 02:49 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/fashion/2017/feb/20/women-fox-news-dress-alike-republicans-blondes-pundits-ann-coulter-kellyanne-conway-rightwingers
:ponythinking:

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Why do all the women on Fox News look and dress alike? Republicans...
From pundits like Ann Coulter to Kellyanne Conway, American rightwingers are a uniform vision of don’t scare-the-horses dressing
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[04-Jan-20 02:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  https://www.fastcompany.com/3060586/proof-that-americas-politicians-are-all-basically-the-same-old-white-dude

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Proof That America’s Politicians Are All Basically The Same Old ...
Regardless of their political bent, they’re mostly old, white, and . . . however you’d describe that nose.
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[04-Jan-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my point was that it;s mostly republicans vying for roe v wade to die, and not democrats


[04-Jan-20 03:01 PM] green_byte#1188
And I think that's enough politics for one day...


[04-Jan-20 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it gets tiring real fast soemtimes


[04-Jan-20 03:02 PM] green_byte#1188
So much bullshit...


[04-Jan-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fox news thing is pretty much the modern version of the trend of 50's women's fashion but with starved blonde supermodels instead.

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[04-Jan-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony: it's what all the "new" conservative men are dying for apparently. it;s an attempt to sell fox news sexually to conservative men into blonde skinny super models.


[04-Jan-20 03:11 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[04-Jan-20 03:12 PM] green_byte#1188
Thanks Google where's my pony articles..


[04-Jan-20 03:12 PM] green_byte#1188
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/middleeast/suleimani-iran-iraq-strike.html

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By Eric Schmitt, Helene Cooper, Thomas Gibbons-Neff, Maggie Haberman and Peter Baker
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/middleeast/suleimani-iran-iraq-strike.html
For Trump, a Risky Decision Other Presidents Had Avoided
In ordering the drone strike that killed Iran’s top security commander, Mr. Trump challenged predictions it could lead to a wider war in the Middle East.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/02/us/03suleimani-promo/02iraq-airport-sub2-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[04-Jan-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he's saying it was an attempt to end the war, so he can play the reluctance card when it finally comes time to declare war, so he can say: "this was the only option i had left. You all saw me try to stop war. They just want to provoke us into war and i have no choice but to give in"


[04-Jan-20 03:19 PM] green_byte#1188
. . .


[04-Jan-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt our first rodeo with this tactic


[04-Jan-20 03:22 PM] green_byte#1188
🤔


[04-Jan-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
its been our way to jumpstart a lot of wars in the past, *us makes provocational first move -> country makes retallitory response -> US claims it had no choice because the other country provoked them first -> US says it is reluctant to start war and then does so anyway while declaring it the best option for our countries national security*


[04-Jan-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
haha good fucking luck with compliance https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-artificial-intelligence/u-s-government-limits-exports-of-artificial-intelligence-software-idUSKBN1Z21PT

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U.S. government limits exports of artificial intelligence software
The Trump administration took measures on Friday to crimp exports of artificial ...
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[04-Jan-20 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really? a license is all that stands in between companies and shipping this shit to china?  that license woudl likely take all of 15 minutes to acquire depending on much money you can bribe them with to cut you in line


[04-Jan-20 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-religion/trump-tells-evangelical-rally-he-will-put-prayer-in-schools-idUSKBN1Z22AN

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Trump tells evangelical rally he will put prayer in schools
U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said his Democratic opponents would tear d...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200104&t=2&i=1471954104&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG03002


[04-Jan-20 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Good luck with that buddy


[04-Jan-20 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
It turns out that while the president doesn't care


[04-Jan-20 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Schools really don't like to get sued


[04-Jan-20 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
And this would be an instant lawsuit target


[04-Jan-20 04:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1207370248518807554?s=21

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[04-Jan-20 04:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[04-Jan-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
help send a message to the swamp that we refuse to be drained!


[04-Jan-20 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
:cryingTrump:


[04-Jan-20 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1213170673994084353

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President Trump dined on ice cream as news of the airstrike broke https://t.co/iP5fbnSfDH
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[04-Jan-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the absolute trump worship in those comments is disturbing


[04-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jan-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/KleinRevd/status/1213356449474072577?s=20

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Revd Andrew Klein  ( Chaplain) (@KleinRevd)
https://twitter.com/KleinRevd/status/1213356449474072577?s=20
"When Mark said he hadn't eaten all day, Morrison just shook his hand and said, 'Well I'll let you get back to it.'

"I haven't felt so ashamed for a long time."

This is #Morrison,  the defining moment🤬

@LiberalAus End this farce now 
#AustraliaOnFire

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[04-Jan-20 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/francismmaxwell/status/1213326340989939712

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https://twitter.com/francismmaxwell/status/1213326340989939712
Bernie Sanders wants to send your kids to college, Trump wants to send them to war. That’s it.
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[04-Jan-20 06:30 PM] illumnious#7938
:cryingTrump:


[04-Jan-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12297980

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Australian fires: Photographer left feeling 'ashamed' by Scott Mor...
A photographer who witnessed the Australian PM's visit has shared his thoughts.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/CR7Dw_-JExeNydMZlp5xSLNX7Ro=/1200x0/smart/filters:quality(70)/arc-anglerfish-syd-prod-nzme.s3.amazonaws.com/public/V24KPNELFZB7NIOLMZKG6OEKQI.jpg


[04-Jan-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scott morrisson is unempathetically touring a burning australia, forcing people into photoshoots, and then throwign thme to the wayside and dismissing their concerns


[04-Jan-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll probably go back to hawaii after this and wait out the fires while australians die left and right


[04-Jan-20 06:52 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] Trump, duh! Bernie wants to brainwash your kid into a pussy liberal transgendr neomarxist, while Trmp want them to go to ME and kills some [insert slur here] terrorists and man up! /s


[04-Jan-20 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE50T54M20090130

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Shoe monument for man who threw footwear at Bush
An Iraqi town has unveiled a giant monument of a shoe in honor of the journalist who threw his footwear at former U.S. President George W. Bush.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20090130&t=2&i=8067049&w=&fh=545px&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2009-01-30T174455Z_01_BTRE50T1DAZ00_RTROPTP_0_IRAQ-SHOE

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[04-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Assistance/comments/ejw47n/i_need_brain_surgery_but_theres_only_two_surgeons

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[04-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ugh, export restrictions on software


[04-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians still don't understand that software is not akin to physical items


[04-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
"noting it was a boon for industry, which feared a much broader crackdown on exports of AI hardware and software."


[04-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
fukk off


[04-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
There shouldn't be ANY crakkdown involved


[04-Jan-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
THIS IS GOOD FOR INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY FEARED WE'D TOTALLY RIP THE CARPET OUT FROM UNDER THEM, AND WE ONLY BURNED THEIR DRAPES INSTEAD


[04-Jan-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the fukking conservative reasoning I can't stand


[04-Jan-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're making it out that they HELPED industry by not completely fukking crushing it with their shitty regulations


[04-Jan-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We were going to rip the carpet out from under you, but thne we decided to light your fireplace instead. take that master!""


[04-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, smash the chimney with sledgehammers


[04-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
that'll teach 'em etc.


[04-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare those researchers conduct research


[04-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
People should just like, know things, but not hav chinese people know those things


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not like China already knows how to do this stuff


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or has the manpower to write its own software


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, realistically


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
this decision will like


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
make it more expensive to make *video games*


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because oh no, you wrote a machine-learning algorithm to play the enemy AI


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can't ship that overseas without a license!


[04-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So now you've gotta make a worse AI to play the game for everyone overseas!


[04-Jan-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same stupid bullshit as saying we can't show the Russians how to make good spacesuits


[04-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
because oh no, good spacesuits are vaguely related to ICBMs


[04-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Chinese are going to hav drones that can target people no matter what we do, but now American companies will be kept from giving firefighters tools to identify blazes from the air in countries that don't contain the people Trump thinks are important.


[04-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, we're talking like, Republicans screeching about how Brazil pirated a fire recognition app, and so an American company should face justice, as they combat blazes on the edges of the Amazon, in 4 years


[04-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the kind of absolute nonsensical bullshit conservatives love.


[04-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nationalism before anything resembling reason.


[04-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
All while they CLAIM they're pro-deregulation


[04-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they're only pro-deregulation when it's a way to hurt minorities.


[04-Jan-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/maetl/status/1213420680579964929

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https://twitter.com/maetl/status/1213420680579964929
@julian0liver @EcoLabs Coal seams in the Blue Mountains caught fire today, so it’s gone beyond the biomass above ground and into the geological layers beneath the ground.
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[04-Jan-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
seems like australia might lose its coal business


[04-Jan-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
the irony


[04-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well they're definitely losing all the scuba tourism.


[04-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
That reef will be completely wiped out at this point.


[04-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.dw.com/en/iraq-rocket-attacks-hit-central-baghdad-and-air-base-housing-us-troops/a-51888359

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Iraq: Rocket attacks hit central Baghdad and air base housing US t...
Rockets reportedly targeted the highly-fortified Green Zone in Baghdad as well as an air base housing US troops. The explosions come on the heels of a US airstrike that killed top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.
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[04-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
> no loss of life


[04-Jan-20 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/1zDcsjHyxr8

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USCSB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zDcsjHyxr8
Blowout in Oklahoma
A training video for the onshore drilling industry detailing lessons learned from the January 22, 2018, blowout and fire at the Pryor Trust gas well in Pittsburg County, Oklahoma, that fatally injured five workers.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1zDcsjHyxr8/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Jan-20 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
This entire thing is just infuriating to watch as someone who is familiar with drilling sop


[04-Jan-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
>turned off the mud alarms


[04-Jan-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
>didn't pump kill fluid when the flare didn't die down


[04-Jan-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
>pulled out the fucking drillstring while gas was still coming out of the well


[04-Jan-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
>opened the bop and saw mud bubbling out of the stack but didn't tell the rig supervisor


[04-Jan-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Regulations are written in blood


[04-Jan-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
But even more than that, if anyone on this this operation had a fucking brain none of this would matter


[04-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...Wouldn't the wisest thing to do be to stop drilling if under-balanced?


[04-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>calculated fill


[04-Jan-20 10:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I'd assume a calculated fill would work best under normal circumstances


[04-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>guy wasn't trained


[04-Jan-20 10:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...This really is infuriating to watch


[04-Jan-20 10:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
STOP TURNING OFF THE ALARM


[04-Jan-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
first, stop drilling


[04-Jan-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
second, pump kill fluid


[04-Jan-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
getting heavy mud into the openhole is absolutely critical when the well is underbalanced and kicking


[04-Jan-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
what also probably happened but wasn't mentioned in the report was that they weren't running casing frequently enough


[04-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>27 flow checks required
>only *2* performed


[04-Jan-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://soundcloud.com/hooper-dagoat/world-war-3

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HOOPERDAGOAT
https://soundcloud.com/hooper-dagoat/world-war-3
WORLD WAR 3
#JUSTFOFUN insta @hooperdagoat
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[04-Jan-20 11:59 PM] xbi#0900
```
for i in xrange(0, 2000000):
    print ('https://derpibooru.org/' + str(i))
```


[04-Jan-20 11:59 PM] xbi#0900
I don't understand, is this program legal under discord TOS or not 🤔 ( It generates links to all derpibooru arts up to April 2019)


[05-Jan-20 12:00 AM] xbi#0900
Also I don't understand, are some 7-digit  numbers  legal or they are something like <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number>


[05-Jan-20 12:05 AM] xbi#0900
And if they are illegal, are some arithmetic operation with other numbers giving illegal numbers are illegal too ?


[05-Jan-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
dam son


[05-Jan-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
use the data dumps


[05-Jan-20 12:11 AM] xbi#0900
I am more curios about legality of numbers and texts, and algorithms which generate numbers and texts.


[05-Jan-20 12:11 AM] xbi#0900
Otherwise I put the question it in #support or #general, not #politics


[05-Jan-20 12:15 AM] xbi#0900
For example, adding two legal numbers and then adding text prefix which starts with site name gives some forbidden links .


[05-Jan-20 12:16 AM] xbi#0900
So, just file which contains all numbers from 0 to 2000000 with 'derpibooru.org/' prefix can be illegal. File is not huge, 5mb after zip compression, even fit default Discord file size limit.   Looks like nonsense world , we are living now in 🤔


[05-Jan-20 12:29 AM] xbi#0900
Something is wrong with political system of many countries, which issue laws technically making such files illegal


[05-Jan-20 12:37 AM] xbi#0900
Like, more than half of any European country population is against laws which makes some fictional texts/pics/animations or some numbers or some numbers generation illegal , or at least don't care about this (but against mass surveliance and spying and technical limitations and speech freedom limitations justified by these laws). But intelligence agents or recording companies or loud SJW activists will easily outweigh this population will. Where is our democracy?


[05-Jan-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vepa7gap9s841.png

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[05-Jan-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213593975732527112

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213593975732527112
....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran &  the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!
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[05-Jan-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[05-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
dude, did he just admit to intending to commit war crimes?


[05-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
how insane do you have to be to do that?


[05-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the platform he ran on.


[05-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's gonna fulfill those campaign promises.


[05-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>inb4 trumb bombs mecca


[05-Jan-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some people claim Bush Jr wanted to do that too


[05-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every GOP member's wanted to


[05-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
trump is in saudi arabia's pocket


[05-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
he wouldn't bomb saudi arabia as long as the money keeps flowing


[05-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You overestimate Trump's intelligence

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[05-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/middleeast/us-iraq.html

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By Falih Hassan, Tim Arango and Alissa J. Rubin
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/world/middleeast/us-iraq.html
A Shocked Iraq Reconsiders Its Relationship With the U.S.
The killing of General Suleimani, intended as a shot against Iran, could accelerate an Iranian objective: pushing the United States military out of Iraq.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/03/world/03iraq/03iraq-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Jan-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minute money stops flowing form saudi arabia, is the minute trump declares war on them too


[05-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
saudi arabia is the country that the US has allied itself with in the region for good deals on oil, saudi arabia would be a shattered wasteland of squabbling warlords if it weren't for the US supporting the house of saud since the 40's


[05-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
without iraq willing to let US troops move in its borders, saudi arabia would be the staging point for the US in a war against iran


[05-Jan-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
kuwait was a really strong staging point for the US versus iraq btw, iran has no such easy way in, even if the US were allowed to operate freely within iraq's borders


[05-Jan-20 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering trump just recently tried to take a saudi oil source for himself using us troops,i dont think he;s beyond turning ont hem if his interests go far enough...


[05-Jan-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457

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[05-Jan-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans would be outraged, but when has that ever stopped him before


[05-Jan-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, is this accurate? iran's been having a proxy war for awhile, so I don't think this is quite accurate


[05-Jan-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm very sure that's not accurate


[05-Jan-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran often bakks rebels in certain areas


[05-Jan-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
like Yemen


[05-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The list should be at least 5 long


[05-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, proxy war


[05-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
while you don't directly engage your enemies in a proxy war, you still get your hands dirty with support


[05-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/663213623388405771/image0.jpg

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[05-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Macarou#9574
I hope I'm reading that correctly.


[05-Jan-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/476748-trump-says-alleged-rape-victim-cant-sue-him-in-new-york?amp

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Trump asks New York judge to dismiss rape allegation case
President Trump asked a New York judge to dismiss an allegation from a woman who claimed he raped her in a department store dressing room 20 years ago.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_122019upi_lead.jpg


[05-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump denies Carroll’s claims and said New York courts lack personal jurisdiction over him “even when the purported statements were published to New York readers/listeners, or were directed towards or caused harm to a New York citizen.”
> 
> The president also noted that he hadn’t been served the complaint in New York. Carroll has claimed that Secret Service agents blocked her attempts to serve the complaint, and a judge ruled she could serve it by mail to the White House.


[05-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, he's not even trying to deny the allegations


[05-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Crow#5457
he's just trying to get the case dismissed on procedural bullshit


[05-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He literally confessed to regularly sexually assaulting people


[05-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not sure how the fuck the US even still works


[05-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
but he was just joking dude


[05-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
can't you take a joke?


[05-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
stop being such a snowflake


[05-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
||\/s||


[05-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor or blakk? Oh no you kissed her on the first date, that's rape, dude.


[05-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
White and rich? Yeah grab all the pussies.


[05-Jan-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's become pretty obvious a lot of the American populace predicates their morality on sexual matters on class.


[05-Jan-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as they are concerned, the Pope should go around raping mexican boys to death


[05-Jan-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
South Park is ultimately right.


[05-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump literally ran into Canada and raped Trudeau to death, most conservatives would be celebrating in the streets.


[05-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
This really shouldn't be too surprising, tho, if you understand how human society works.


[05-Jan-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[05-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taboos aren't usually intended to be applied universally.


[05-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taboos are cudgels to keep the lower classes from rising too high socially.


[05-Jan-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
🤡


[05-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, you personally can apply a taboo universally...


[05-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you won't catch the rich openly violating it *as often* as the poor.


[05-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when you do, others will try to dampen you doing so.


[05-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
By making you think it's universal, it trikks you into believing that society is just, and thus accepting society.


[05-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the great sham.


[05-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fun if you try and trace bakk why a taboo exists


[05-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Elbows on the table? ||Poor people used to be generally starving and weak, so they wouldn't be able to keep their arms up as well||


[05-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinky out? ||Worsens grip, someone who grew up eating their protein (rich) can show it off||


[05-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A looooooooooot of even very minor western taboos are just ways the rich can show that they hav and developed with more resources, and shame those that did not.


[05-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the most obvious and immediate taboos are always sexual or bodily function related.


[05-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause everyone has to deal with those.


[05-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that rich people don't piss their pants, it's that they hav other rich people around them who can be kept from telling everyone.


[05-Jan-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
@WiFiWitch idea for you  https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/d9/bd94b4cf-5267-5d77-8e5a-c1673573780a/5a134a131c79d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C867

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https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/d9/bd94b4cf-5267-5d77-8e5a-c1673573780a/5a134a131c79d.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C867


[05-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that rich people don't fool around with women they aren't married to etc., it's that they can provide hush money.


[05-Jan-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
just remove text and add :siren:


[05-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abortion's a sin until you're a Congressman.


[05-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then suddenly it's what you tell your mistress to get.


[05-Jan-20 05:27 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
:nut:


[05-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly


[05-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The original joke that eventually became trikkle-down


[05-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to feed the horse so much that the sparrow can subsist on its droppings


[05-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
'If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.'


[05-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho that's more Raptorshy than @WiFiWitch territory.


[05-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Nebbie why is it you always come off like you are all knowing. that you know exactly what group x or group y acts and thinks.  You always seem like you know the exact history and intentions of everything and everyone. 

How many people outside your own political circle have you interacted with? have you ever had actual debates with the otherside? have you ever even had civil conversation with those of differing political views?


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Macarou#9574
He's talked with you


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I talk with people outside my political group all the time


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's incredibly telling what they reveal.


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
like whom?


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
with whom?


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1213631435573284864?s=19

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[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie btw you should try making left leaning edgy youtube vids for ad revenue; you seem like someone that has lots to say


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aside of you, there's that Shurui guy I mentioned, there's my parents, and there's some randos in another server


[05-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
why are you asking?


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you always seem to paint everyone outside of your narrow spectrum in the blackest light possible.


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to just not like me acting like I know something.


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Excuse me


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Macarou#9574
@jlun2 You mean like Vaush Vidya?


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is it exactly


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you think I'm talking about people who aren't liberal?


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because I was just talking about taboos.


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And how they work


[05-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but oh no, I'm clearly just assaulting conservatives and not, you know, society in general.


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I could talk about why Obama's a shitty scumbag, but it's not the topic.


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can we all just a agree that Trump has admitted to sexual assault and has, repeatedly, stated he wants to commit war crimes?


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We all agreed to that 3 years ago


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're late to the party


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm just trying to explain WHY people still support him


[05-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just want to clear out if there's any disagreement on that from anyone here


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, most Americans think that it's okay for a rich guy to rape women.


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They may not say it outright


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
conservatives are evil incarnate.
centrists are evil incarnate
capitalists are evil incarnate
white people are evil incarnate
neo liberals are evil incarnate
and so on and so forth.

you never describe anyone or anything in a neutral light.


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they may hav some doubts


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
but ultimately it's what they believe.


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@Macarou no idea who, but every now and then i get articles of alt right getting coverts through youtube, so why not have other side do the same.


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most liberals aren't opposing Trump because he's a rapist


[05-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You know, just to know if someone considers peeping in on naked teenagers and stating "grabs women by the pussy" unheeded or "kisses" them without asking is OK


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're opposing him because he's a racist.


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was screaming about Trump being a rapist AND a racist early in


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
but nobody really cared.


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Macarou#9574
@jlun2 Vaush Vidya is one, of many Left tubers actually, and he's become rather controversial for some of his edgier behaviours, such as using the word femoid often, and possible allegations of Enbyphobia, though I am unsure how much worth those claims have


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very related, in recent news


[05-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I saw a tweet by a guy saying we shouldn't deride a war with Iran for being illegal


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
because consersavites didn't care that the war in Iraq was either


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, belated LMAO at the "United" methodist church


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is just SO MUCH inertia in the US to not even fukking care anymore


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Turns out being retrograde homophobes is more important than christ


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't care the president's a rapist, they don't care that a war's illegal.


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really rather disheartening.


[05-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's the truth.


[05-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At this point I'd believe conservatives would vote a literal pile of steaming shit if someone convinced them it'd "own the libs"


[05-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big reason I talk in such realpolitik manner is that the vast majority of people, if I tell them I'm 100% certain Trump is a rapist, will respond with "you just want MEXICANS to OVERTAKE US"


[05-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes


[05-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is their gameplan.


[05-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this lakk of caring about universal application of morals is really widespread


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Drink bleach to own the libs XD"


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is an incredibly liberal position to even believe that a rapist president should be impeached for being a rapist.


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they'd do it


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd fucking do it


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably.


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
McConnell is too much of a pussy


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the "moderate" American voter


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the middle


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
thinks Trump being a rapist isn't a big deal.


[05-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a serious problem.


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leads to massive tolerance of corruption.


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It fuels people like Trump gaining power.


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when Roy Moore got revealed to be cheating on his wife with high schoolers?


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got 49% of the damn vote.


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If blakk people hadn't shown up to the polls that day


[05-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
he WOULD HAV WON


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Obama says drinking bleach is bad, WELL GUESS WHO JUST BOUGHT 40oz OF CHLOROX! AMERICA, FUCK YEH-gurgle"


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what the EPA is doing


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was a rule Obama put in place


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
that saved on average, 4 lives a day cancerwise


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump undid it.


[05-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 people dying a day from cancer so coal companies can make $10 million more a year.


[05-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
LIB STATUS: OWNED


[05-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@Sunnyside Though, tell us, are you OK with Trump admitting to sexual assault, paying for whores while his (3rd) wife recovers from child birth, then paying for her silence?


[05-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just gotta know


[05-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a lot of typing for a Yes or No questions


[05-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
No.


[05-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I never saw or expect Trump to be a person of moral character.


[05-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he wasn't even my first choice for president.


[05-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think 4 people should die a day on average to save coal companies $10 million a year?


[05-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would you rather have him, or a democrat


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
with the line up we currently have running. I'd pick him.


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wooooow


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the answer is yes, eh?


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd pick the rapist war criminal


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OK


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over Yang, Biden, Bernie, Warren, AND Steyer


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
has he been proven to be a rapist? its still a allegation


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
absolutely amazing.


[05-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay let's say Trump isn't a rapist


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
has he been proven to be a war criminal? no he has not as far as I can tell.


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He pardoned a war criminal


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is that okay?


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but that does not make Trump himself a war criminal


[05-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But is it okay?


[05-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of typing for a yes/no.


[05-Jan-20 05:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump admits to grabbing pussy and getting away with it because he is rich and famous.


[05-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I feel he must have his own reasons to pardon the person and I don't know the details of the man's case and the person's defense.


[05-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course you don't


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was only plastered all over the news for two weeks


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Trump firing one of the navy's top officers for refusing to comply with reinstatement of the war criminal.


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not on FOX NEWS, Nebbie


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I watch ABC


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
hardly fox


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually I think Fox News ran a piece trying to exonorate the guy


[05-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nebbie it only published photos of him smiling and retold his medals


[05-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallagher-trump-navy-seal-iraq

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Navy Seal pardoned of war crimes by Trump described by colleagues ...
Eddie Gallagher ‘OK with killing anything that moved’, Iraq veterans told investigators in testimony obtained by New York Times
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[05-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
"In the interviews, conducted by navy investigators looking into Gallagher’s conduct during a tour of duty in Iraq in 2017, fellow platoon members told of a ruthless leader who stabbed the captive to death for no reason then forced his troops to pose for a photograph with the corpse."


[05-Jan-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
if you won't produce an opinion on whether Gallagher had a "good reason" to be pardoned and just try to punt


[05-Jan-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
what about Arpaio?


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Who? is that the Arizona sheriff?


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's loans being banked by Putin-linked russian money has been linked here, right?


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one who kept putting people in conditions that would violate the Geneva Conventions


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How are you so much of a fan of Trump if you barely know his big PR moves


[05-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who Trump also pardoned *for contempt of court*


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a violation of the independence of the judiciary, according to many.


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pardoning Arpaio was one of his biggest year one boasts


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-joe-arpaio-verdict-20170706-story.html

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Joe Arpaio, former sheriff in Arizona, is found guilty of criminal...
Joe Arpaio, the Arizona lawman who once proclaimed himself “America’s toughest sheriff” and was largely praised by conservatives for his hard-line policing tactics, was found guilty Monday of criminal contempt, bringing his tenure as a relentless crusader against illega...
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[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was so proud of pardoning a confessed criminal that forced people to live in inhuman conditions and being proud of it


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
"More than a month after lawyers wrapped up closing arguments, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton found Arpaio guilty for defying a judge’s 2011 court order to refrain from racially profiling Latinos during patrols and turning them over to federal immigration authorities."


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear


[05-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the thing he was found guilty of


[05-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
was literally doing unconstitutional racist actions


[05-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
AGAINST A COURT ORDER TO STOP DOING THEM


[05-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it okay in your book that he was pardoned?


[05-Jan-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
A looooot of typing for a yes/no.


[05-Jan-20 05:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
He's a hardliner sheriff who believes in a firm hand and aggressive tactics.  I'm more into rehabilitation myself. That said if they had put him in prison it would've resulted in his death. police have a high mortality rate in prisons.


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk off


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was told to stop


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's a racist and a criminal


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
he went and DID IT AGAIN


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A convicted one


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you're talking about reformation?


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy literally was let off in a way allowing him to remain sheriff


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND TOLD TO JUST STOP DOING IT


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he KEPT DOING IT


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And for christ's sake


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk do you think the judge should've done?


[05-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop watching shitty TV


[05-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also stated that they should "change the laws" if they don't like what he's doing


[05-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was never going to be sent to TV prison to live among gang thugs


[05-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE JUDGE FOUND HE VIOLATED THE EXISTING LAWS


[05-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd've been in a minimum security prison that's pretty much a two star hotel full of old people and clerks


[05-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well if i was the judge I probably would've removed him from office and stopped there. attempting to put him in prison would make him a mayrter and that benefits no one.


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was elected into the office


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd be a horrible judge


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd just be voted bakk into it.


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would be an incredibly shitty judge.


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, an american judge


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judge kept him in the position but told him to stop.


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which IS the lenient option here.


[05-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your option would not do shit.


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Elected over TV ads openly declaring you're an asshole to minorities and poor people and soft on white rich folk


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was correct


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
in pardoning the sheriff


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Y/N


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
for violating the court order saying to not throw random latino-looking people in jail?


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i cannot control the votes of his constituents. obviously they agreed with his policies. 
but again if i was the judge i would've removed him from office and barred him and that would have been it.


[05-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Y/N?


[05-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is TRUMP correct?


[05-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the judge, Trump.


[05-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
as i said before. throwing him in prison would have been the wrong approach.


[05-Jan-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
answer the fucking question or I will mute you


[05-Jan-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
you're arguing in bad faith, get your shit together


[05-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how am i arguing in bad faith? you are asking for my opinion. 
some of which you may agree or disagree with.
instead of asking me case by case stuff with specific yes or no questions why not ask me more genral stuff. to get a better more well rounded view of me and my politics.
discourse is valuable so we don't demonize those that are not the same as ourselves.


[05-Jan-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
because we're asking you a yes/no question on your opinion on a specific issue


[05-Jan-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
answer it or affirm that you want me to mute you


[05-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes I believe pardoning him was the right call in that situation


[05-Jan-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
defend it


[05-Jan-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
back to you nebbie


[05-Jan-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, this was the judge's ONLY way of actually DOING anything


[05-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you just said Trump is right to strip that from the judge


[05-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
thereby meaning this sheriff can go around arresting people literally for being brown.


[05-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're a fukking racist, fukk you.


[05-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd be curious to know why he deserved a pardon over some random teen getting their life destroyed for carrying too much weed on them


[05-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk you to death.


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not even really worth talking with you when you seem to believe anyone who fukked over brown people just deserves our love and support


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're clearly making up bullshit.


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I never said I agreed with the sheriffs policies.


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you did


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You indicated that his only possible avenue of punishment for doing them


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
should be stripped away.


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
To allow him to continue them.


[05-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are just bullshitting.


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I said if i was judge i would've removed the sheriff from office


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also used the classic DEMOCRACY argument


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying that if his constituents want him to violate the constitutional rights of mexicans


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
that it's his perogative to do so.


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not blind, I read all of what you post.


[05-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I'm saying that they agreed with his policies if you insist they would've voted him back in


[05-Jan-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure a judge can't remove an elected sheriff from office.


[05-Jan-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And because they agree that mexicans don't deserve constitutional protection, none shall be given to them, right?


[05-Jan-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the only reason you would say that.


[05-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's avenues for an elected person's removal. their positions are not absolute nor should they be.


[05-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment would be the normal one here, it requires the act of the legislature.


[05-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The legislature did not seem intent on acting.


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges can provide punishments without removal, for violating the law, in certain cases.


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
if an elected sheriff rapes someone that should be handled through the criminal court system, yes?


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not if he's too old, byte


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd be mean to him


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
man, who gives a fuck about impeachment in that case, just jail him and give him a court date


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a bit of a reminder


[05-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
congressmen can be jailed


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but doing so doesn't remove their office


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can in theory write legislation from jail.


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is traditional for the legislative house to vote to remove them on its own.


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it does not need to do so.


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
rape is a crime byte. so yes it would be a criminal case


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was also a crime.


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Arpaio committed numerous criminal acts


[05-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think the judge shouldn't be allowed to sentence a sheriff for doing a crime?


[05-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Crimes against brown people aren't /really/ crimes


[05-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You silly liberal


[05-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just _opinions_


[05-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And honestly it was for their own good, anyway


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I feel there was another way to punishing the sheriff instead of prison. prison was the exactly the thing that would make the situation worse.


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was voted for the position, right? That means he has the right!


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
how would it make the situation worse


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He hadn't been sentenced yet you dope


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Macarou#9574
Would you like to describe that, "Other Way"?


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He should have been put against a wall and shot


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the people whose rights were infringed would stop having those rights infringed


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's how he should have been punished


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and arpaio would no longer be able to infringe their rights


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i described it several times. removal of office and stripping him of his badge


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
does that not solve the problem


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the judge does not have that authority @Sunnyside


[05-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He should have been dragged into a cold, damp hole and made to suffer a _tenth_ of what he made others suffer


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
how do you handle this in _criminal court_


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sentencing happens AFTER being found guilty


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sheriff had been found guilty


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
do you even know how the court system works?


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the judge had not decided the punishment yet


[05-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are arguing for an action which prevented even DECIDING his punishment.


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you are now asking questions beyond my general range of knowledge. i am not a resident of his state nor am I a lawyer  much less versed in that state's laws.


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
okay


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
based on _your understanding of the situation_


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they're beyond your knowledge


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
why was it OK for Trump to pardon Arpaio


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything critical of Trump is beyond your knowledge


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
because you still haven't explained that


[05-Jan-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It seems every single thing Trump has done is a surprise to you


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like most, your only reason to support Trump is "own the libs"


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Not a democrat"


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Better dead than red"


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
etc.


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) Sheriff was elected.
2) Sheriff arrested people because they looked Mexican, saying they might be immigrants.
3) Judge ordered him to stop.
4) He continued.
5) Judge found him in criminal contempt for doing it again.
6) Before he could be sentenced, Trump pardoned him.


[05-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think Trump is correct for doing this?


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
For preventing the judge from even deciding the punishment?


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
DO NOTE


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president has the power of COMMUTING sentences as well


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
he can reduce them to a lesser punishment


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But removal from office ISN'T EVEN ON THE TABLE, and Arpaio lost reelection before 5 happened.


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i told you several  times byte I believe that was the right call due to the situation. if the sheriff had gone to prison and had gotten injured or killed while incarcerated it would've had consequences.


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Psker


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
how would those consequences be worse than what the victims suffered


[05-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He WASN'T SENTENCED YET


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
HE WAS NOT YET DECIDED TO BE GOING TO JAIL


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND EVEN HAD HE BEEN


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
furthermore, what even makes you think that shit happens in jail


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
that's like fantasy tv land


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
TRUMP COULD'VE CHANGED IT FROM JAIL TO ANYTHING HE WANTED


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A pardon ISN'T NECESSARY to prevent jailtime.


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A pardon PREVENTS ANY PUNISHMENT AT ALL.


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
police do have a higher mortality rate in prisons


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, the guy's 85, one foot in the grave anyway. Let him be a martyr, then at least this can maybe blow up and blow over. Or nothing happens and that's just as well. This in itself isn't the problem.


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are saying


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that because the guy could be harmed


[05-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus christ you're legitimately retarded


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
he shouldn't be punished even with things that couldn't harm him.


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this was a guy


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He would have gone to a god damned old folks home with ankle monitors


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
who put MANY people in jail under false pretenses.


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
HE HARMED PEOPLE YOU FUKK


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But oh no


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
who cares that he put them in jail


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not fucking alcatraz or whatever nonsense you believe from TV


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's a conservative white guy


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
we can't put HIM in jail!


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did i ever say I agreed with his policies?


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no


[05-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem awfully keen on defending him


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and saying nothing bad about what he did


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You even said that it's what the people voted for


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because the facts speak for themselves


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
implying you think they should get it, even if it's unconstitutional.


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you know what commutation is?


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
now if you don't mind could we continue on to whatever the next question is?


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Describe it in your own words.


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are not moving on.


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am very close to muting you.


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The facts are he's a racist that committed crimes against humanity and you think he should be protected and Trump was right in shielding him


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrmmm


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
DESCRIBE it to me


[05-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
in your own words.


[05-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is commutation of a sentence?


[05-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
isn't that where a sentence is suspended?


[05-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[05-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Google it and tell me again.


[05-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
again I told you i'm not a lawyer


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't fukking care, tell me or you're muted.


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm just a person that works in fast food.


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you want to be muted?


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next post better tell me.


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Macarou#9574
Use your computer, look up the definition, what's hard with that?


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, you're allowed to be *wrong* here, but I want you to show you tried.


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
_A commutation of sentence is a reduction in sentence. In a commutation of sentence, a person is not absolved from a conviction completely, but, his/her punishment is substituted with a lesser punishment._


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay


[05-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
in your own words now.


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not Wikipedia's


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You sure do have some strong and cemented opinions for someone that doesn't know things


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
everyone has an opinion teaspoon


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Macarou#9574
And he's so calm and collected too, at least that's how he acts


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, most normal people, when they don't know something, would reserve judgement until they inform themselves


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump can COMMUTE a sentence, he can _____


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
some are more willing to express it than others


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fill in the blank.


[05-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rather than just go with one side and stick with it no matter what regardless of the information presented


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Well I don't know what Trump was thinking at the time or his reasons for a pardon. but that was the option he took.


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so it is what it is


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you're dodging


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(I'm joking of course, people are legitimately awful and democracy was a mistake, as evidenced every day everywhere)


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Commutation means you can change a sentence to whatever lesser punishment you want


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump HAS THIS POWER


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it seems you are wanting a specific answer and having me guess what it is


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could change any jail sentence


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
to any lesser sentence


[05-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the federal system.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes he could. but he chose not to


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump literally could make it so Arpaio pays a $5 fine if he wanted to.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you think that's correct?


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's his prerogative as president.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
For him to pardon instead.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, here we go


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're a racist.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just...don't want to think about his reasoning.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that doesn't make me a racist silly


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
As he pardons someone for massive unconstitutional abuses.


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well let's see


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you believe that when a president


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
pardons someone


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
who did horrible racist shit


[05-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you shouldn't question it.


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
oh i question it.


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then do so.


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Macarou#9574
Do you though?


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now.


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Talk to me about why you think Trump pardoned, when you wouldn't do the same.


[05-Jan-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
What would be Trump's reason?


[05-Jan-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
the pardon was a symbolic act more than anything, it wasn't for the benefit of the guy. The punishment was to show the judificial system (in the form of a particular judge) did not approve. Trump decided he did. And this is what they're trying to imply here @ Psker


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I wouldn't know. because i'm not trump and neither are any of us. 
perhaps he saw possible backlash of a sheriff being put in prison. perhaps he felt like the people of his district were being ignored. perhaps he overlooked the case and felt it wasn't handled right. but there could be multiple reasons as to why even down to simply likeing the guy.
does that make them good or right reasons? no not always. but again we don't know what his reasons were.


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
and, y'know, the fact he broke multiple laws and was ordered to stop breaking multiple laws


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the usual "IT REMAINS A MYSTERY" argument


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, well then, you'll be fine with me choosing "it's because Trump wanted to make sure that people feel free to round up brown people"


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Macarou#9574
Motivations, that great difficulty which man has forever been stumbled in solving.


[05-Jan-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the most obvious solution.


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Occam's razor.


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think we've beaten this dead horse enough. surely you have something more general to ask me? or a different situation?


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The punishment was to deter future behavior.


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So saying NO PUNISHMENT is to cause that future behavior.


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or perhaps i could ask you a question instead?


[05-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you really want to, tho I'm getting tired of WHODO YOU TALK TO ARE YOU LIBERAL THOUGHT BUBBLING


[05-Jan-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
(ad hominem, poisoning the well)


[05-Jan-20 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and calling conservatives and centrists nazi scumbags that kill brown people for fun doesn't poison the well?


[05-Jan-20 06:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It was a symbolic gesture to show that anyone willing to round up latinos illegally would be bailed out in his name and hailed as a conqeuring hero for the conservative party


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's not my intention to, I actually do listen to everything you type no matter how horrible I think you are.


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i appreciate it. the feeling is mutual


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also don't *start* with that before an argument, I come to it as a conclusion after you've presented your side.


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, I'm terrible cause I don't like Trump


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav any opinion on those two pardonings


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
that is


[05-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
you neither think they were good nor bad, correct?


[05-Jan-20 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I am neutral on those two cases yes. either party could be in the right or wrong.


[05-Jan-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So why *do* you like Trump?


[05-Jan-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much moreso than anyone on the Democratic field?


[05-Jan-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
What particular actions do you like that he did?


[05-Jan-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and how do these show he's better than them?)


[05-Jan-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
"actions" can count promises, note.


[05-Jan-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the sake of brevity, I recommend limiting to maybe like, the top 3.


[05-Jan-20 06:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Well I believe that he has held onto his promises better than prior presidents, I believe that he is trying to get us out of these long lasting foreign wars, he has a different view and approach to foreign policy such as opening up talks with hostile powers and trying to negotiate deals instead of either threatening war or simply placating them. I like that he is trying to get us out of the economic dependency on forign oil and Chinese goods.  stopping here for brevity.

now let me tell you what I don't like about him. I think he is a egotistical blowhard and arrogant. I believe his has bad hair and weird skin condition, I believe he tweets too much and his jokes more or less bomb when he tries to be funny, I think he has poor morals, and likes to take a aggressive approach when a softer approach could've garnered the same results more easily.


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've already stated two specific ones, the pardonings.


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, you hav not stated any.


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I asked for actions, particular ones.


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are talking vague generalities that are unprovable.


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could you specify them?


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Macarou#9574
You do have that information, right?


[05-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that he has bad hair? that proves itself.


[05-Jan-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting us out of foreign wars


[05-Jan-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
describe this in particulars.


[05-Jan-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which wars, and what did he do about them?)


[05-Jan-20 06:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he's been trying to negotiate a treaty with the Taliban that would allow us out of the country without the immediate fall of the government.
he's been trying to pull us out of syria and iraq after the defeat of isis although that effort has been stymied by things here and abroad.


[05-Jan-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/08/world/asia/afghanistan-trump-camp-david-taliban.html

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By Peter Baker, Mujib Mashal and Michael Crowley
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/08/world/asia/afghanistan-trump-camp-david-taliban.html
How Trump’s Plan to Secretly Meet With the Taliban Came Together...
What would have been one of the biggest headline-grabbing moments of President Trump’s tenure was put together on the spur of the moment and then canceled on the spur of the moment.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/09/09/world/09dc-prexy-1/09dc-prexy-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Jan-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
you mean this one?


[05-Jan-20 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's another one coming up in Quater i think


[05-Jan-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is this in any way exceptional compared to Obama, or deserving him of praise?


[05-Jan-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one meeting and nothing seems to hav come of it.


[05-Jan-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like saying a guy is "losing weight" because he ate one less dorito today.


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how often has wars ended with just one meeting?


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very rarely


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no this will take time


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and many meetings


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is why I don't praise anyone for one meeting they canceled.


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
starts and stops


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you don't think any of the Democrats would do this?


[05-Jan-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, let's talk about another meeting Trump arranged... with Kim Jong Un


[05-Jan-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You think he's deserving of praise for that, right?


[05-Jan-20 06:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
No. or if they did it would be under different terms and conditions


[05-Jan-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would meet with Kim Jong Un, unlike Obama, right?


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that nixon purposefully blew up peace talks so his political opponent would lose the election against nixon


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP would have demanded Obama's head on a pike if he'd considered talking with Kim


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon wait for it...


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Macarou#9574
Why do you think the democratic party would not attempt the peace talks with the Taliban?


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Reminder that Nixon was the first president to go the China


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he met with Mao


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX would have run for months calling him a traitor


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
when others didn't


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, you're the dude who argued that nixon did nothing wrong


[05-Jan-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Psker, Obama wouldn't want a meeting with Kim Jong Un, Right?


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you recall him having any meetings with Kim?


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did not hav any meetings with Kim, no.


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think he wanted any?


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
even if he did want to he obviously did not chose to.


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incorrect.


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did want to meet with Kim


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News lambasted him for weeks


[05-Jan-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, Kim refused to meet with him.


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then why do you think Kim agreed to meet with trump then?


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon yes, they pretty much were calling for his head on a pike


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because Trump sucked his dick


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Kim thought Trump was easier to manipulate, probably.


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Figuratively


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given that most of the intelligence community thinks so.


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump constantly said Kim was a great guy, strong leader, swell fellow


[05-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people in the intelligence community generally know their stuff.


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they've reported that Trump is uninterested in what they hav to say, often disregarding them, and being swayed by conspiracy theories.


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe. or maybe he didn't know what to expect from Trump?
or maybe Trump's policies made him concerned that there would be a confrontation with the US.


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US president repeatedly claimed a dictator that _executed people with AA guns_ was a p.cool guy


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the point was about Trump arranging meetings


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Trump says everyone is a great guy until he says otherwise


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was very keen on having meetings


[05-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its his way of speaking


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has had *fewer* meetings to end wars than Obama has, in the same timeframe


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's basically only had the Kim meeting, which fell apart in the end, and a canceled meeting with the Taliban


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump said Obama would start a war with Iran to get reelected, and wasn't even a legitimate president


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well what wars did obama succeed in ending though?


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and how many got started?


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
0 and 0 to my knowledge


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump meanwhile is 0 and about to be 1


[05-Jan-20 06:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
also its only been four years compared to obama's eight


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
How exactly is this whole Iran situation getting us out of foreign wars?


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was comparing the first three years btw


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you not count Libya and ISIS as wars?


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
True, Trump has spent more taxpayer on vacations in these 3 years than Obama in his 8


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx for reminding us


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump hasn't gotten us out of IS, and no I don't count Libya


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if you count IS, then Obama did get us in a war


[05-Jan-20 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he has tried though


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which Trump dealt with by abandoning our allies


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
remember how cnn labasted trump for trying to pull out of syria


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and making the entire world think us cowards for


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
as we let children die


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember when Trump said he'd work instead of play golf like obama did? Yet has spent three times more time golfing in one year than Obama did in his entire presidency?


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you think Trump is a better president


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
because he abandons allies to die


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the middle of a fight for their right to exist as a culture?


[05-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right?


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump got us into Yemen technically


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I disagree with it. but the options we have there are limited.


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We did fire shots into Yemen


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny how that is


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
you claim Trump did this good thing


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
unless you want to fight turkey or Russia.


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you say you disagree with it


[05-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i disagree with us abandoning the kurds


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i agree with pulling out of syria


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two are one in the same.


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe. but the whole middle east is a tangled web of problems.


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our only presence in Syria was basically to protect the kurds.


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
no.


[05-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it was to stop isis


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which we had finished doing


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and were just protecting the kurds


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
which Trump has pulled away from, leaving us only protecting oil wells


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
now tell me


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
how exactly is Trump lessening our dependence on foreign oil


[05-Jan-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
by making sure we hav a steady supply of foreign oil?


[05-Jan-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny also how he sells arms to the Saudis


[05-Jan-20 06:55 AM] Macarou#9574
And while your at it, can you explain how he is lessening our dependency on Chinese goods?


[05-Jan-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
our main supplier of foreign oil


[05-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, uh, Obama's policies


[05-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
meant we increased production of domestic oil to record rates


[05-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
we have had proof terroist cells were drilling the oil and selling on the black market


[05-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
while also switching away from reliance on oil in many areas


[05-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now tell me how Trump's policies


[05-Jan-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
which go against subsidies for oil alternatives


[05-Jan-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
while promoting oil and coal


[05-Jan-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
are supposed to reduce our dependence?


[05-Jan-20 06:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
guys its midnight. i have work in the morning


[05-Jan-20 06:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
can we continue this another time


[05-Jan-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, but I think all of your top 3 points right now don't hold water, so tomorrow, you know which things need to be actually provided evidence for.


[05-Jan-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statistics are ideal here.


[05-Jan-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I want to see the damn numbers on what Trump's done on foreign oil dependence, Chinese goods dependence, and our involvement in foreign wars.


[05-Jan-20 07:00 AM] Macarou#9574
Ideally with a great number of sources for each claim, around 4 or more sounds good


[05-Jan-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's a little much, but at least one good source.


[05-Jan-20 07:02 AM] Macarou#9574
Again, Ideally, though that would be a great labour, you're right there.


[05-Jan-20 07:05 AM] Yuri#4154
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/04/iran-unfurls-red-flag-show-ready-war-us-air-strike-12001520/

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Iran unfurls red flag to show they are ready for war after US airs...
Red flags in Shiite tradition symbolise both blood spilled unjustly and serve as a call to avenge a person who is slain.
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[05-Jan-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/663256989836771339/unknown.png

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wat 

[05-Jan-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
someone linked this in another server


[05-Jan-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
pretty big yikes tbh


[05-Jan-20 07:08 AM] Macarou#9574
The biggest


[05-Jan-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is the red flag thing a more aggressive version of us flying flags at half-mast?


[05-Jan-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, I don't know the tradition enough to know if the headline's correct


[05-Jan-20 07:09 AM] Opponent#3498
```drilling the oil and selling on the black market```


[05-Jan-20 07:09 AM] Opponent#3498
black market aka China xD


[05-Jan-20 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Iran#Red

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Flag of Iran
The flag of Iran (Persian: پرچم ایران‎, romanized: parčam-e Irân, pronounced [pʰæɾˌtʃʰæme ʔiːˈɾɒːn]), also known as the Three-Coloured Flag (پرچم سه رنگ ایران, parčam-e se rang Irân [pʰæɾˌtʃʰæme se ræŋ ʔiːˈɾɒːn]),  is a...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Flag_of_Iran.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png


[05-Jan-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/04/mourners-chant-america-is-the-great-satan-over-death-of-soleimani.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/04/mourners-chant-america-is-the-great-satan-over-death-of-soleimani.html
Thousands mourn death of Iranian Gen. Soleimani in Baghdad, chanti...
Thousands of mourners chanting "America is the Great Satan" marched in a funeral procession Saturday through Baghdad for Iran's top general and Iraqi militant leaders, who were killed in a U.S. airstrike.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106320935-1578151692446gettyimages-1191569666.jpeg?v=1578151724


[05-Jan-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
> Iranian state television also aired images of a ceremony honoring Soleimani at a mosque in the Shiite holy city of Qom, where a red flag was unfurled above the minarets. Red flags in Shiite tradition symbolize both blood spilled unjustly and serve as a call to avenge a person who is slain.


[05-Jan-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I can't find anything specifically saying that the red flag symbolizes either "blood spilled unjustly" or as "a call tor avenge"


[05-Jan-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
just vague definitions that kinda point in that direction


[05-Jan-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
like martyrdom


[05-Jan-20 07:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jan-20 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's worrying is Trump probably has no idea that the US shot down an Iranian airliner


[05-Jan-20 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again, most americans don't


[05-Jan-20 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also wasn't some Iraqi general killed in that attack too?


[05-Jan-20 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(the one that killed Soleimani, that is)


[05-Jan-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[05-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, conservatives believe in harsh retribution if you hurt anything of theirs


[05-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that it's okay to hurt anything of others


[05-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, @WingbeatPony I should note, earlier a guy who is ACTUALLY somewhat centrist, and just gets annoyed by all the Trumpos, talked to me to ask what the hell was going on


[05-Jan-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, he wanted to know what Benghazi was, what this is, why there's comparisons


[05-Jan-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in looking it up...wew lad


[05-Jan-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This shit is a lot worse than we in this channel hav been talking about.


[05-Jan-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soleimani is like, comparable to that trans Polish guy from the American civil war, but for Iraq


[05-Jan-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically the single person most responsible for stopping IS in Iraq


[05-Jan-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, he's no *good* guy, he's pro-Syrian gov't and pro-Iraqi gov't


[05-Jan-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means being hugely anti civilians and anti Kurdish independence


[05-Jan-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[05-Jan-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump basically killed the guy who stopped IS.


[05-Jan-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans are spinning this as Trump killing the guy who *started* IS.


[05-Jan-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soleimani is a hero to Iraq


[05-Jan-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are PISSED.


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
We just killed not only one of their dudes, but the guy who came in and got their act together so they could save their country.


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and ofc if you said that to any pro-Trumper they'd just think you were being sympathetic to a guy no one ought to shed tears for


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump most likely doesn't understand this.


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
it turned out TEN people died in the bombing


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically killed the guy who killed IS.


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
no one's reporting the other 8


[05-Jan-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Trump's legacy.


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He assassinated the one guy who was stabilizing the Middle East


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the US doesn't *want* a stable Middle East.


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Baghdad_International_Airport_airstrike

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2020 Baghdad International Airport airstrike
On 3 January 2020, amid rising tensions between the United States and Iran, the U.S. launched a drone strike on a convoy traveling near Baghdad International Airport, killing Major General Qasem Soleimani of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), commander of the Quds ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/2020_Baghdad_Airport_airstrike_aftermath.jpg


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIGHT AFTER HE ABANDONED THE GUY'S ONLY POTENTIALLY SUPPORTABLE ON MORAL GROUNDS ENEMY


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about what this says


[05-Jan-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump abandoned the oppressed cultural group


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
**Casualties**
> 10 dead:
> Major General Qasem Soleimani
> Brigadier General Hossein Pur-Jafari
> Colonel Shahroud Muzaffari-Niya
> Major Hadi Tarmi
> Captain Vahid Zamanian
> Commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis
> Public Affairs official Mohammad al-Jabiriand
> Three others killed


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
then assassinated the guy who shat on them while bringing stability to the regon


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is betraying **everyone**


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MIC is happy.


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This will destabilize the middle east for decades.


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, the only way it could get worse if Trump hands Afghanistan over to the Taliban


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which seems to be the plan of the peace talks.


[05-Jan-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want a president who will truly upset the MIC


[05-Jan-20 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like fukk it


[05-Jan-20 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Air Force One is an Airbus now


[05-Jan-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[05-Jan-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
a president who makes nukes unconstitutional


[05-Jan-20 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I would settle for like


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who also makes it unconstitutional to exert any military presence in a region Congress doesn't specifically permit for a period of time up to 2 years.


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Selling the government something at a markup beyond this percentage is a federal crime"


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
the sudden realization that Air Force One is stocked up with McDs and probably has a minigolf course


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress has to say "yes you can bomb this place for up to 2 years"


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
on a map


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
with drawn limits


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Outside those limits? TOO BAD


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The executive shouldn't be able to deploy troops at all


[05-Jan-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Declare war through Congress or fuck off.


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he is the commander in chief


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what I'm saying


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need an executive to deploy troops


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am making it practical to limit it


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Executive puts troops outside the limits or timeframe? Automatic removal by SCOTUS


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Civilly elected Commander in Chief


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb idea tbh


[05-Jan-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bakked up by SCOTUS own personal army


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
with orders to shoot upon encountering any resistance


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
to kill.


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You defy SCOTUS, they put a bullet in your brain, basically.


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A judicial Praetorian Guard


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like it


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you want a citizenship question, Mr. President?


[05-Jan-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our snipers are ready.


[05-Jan-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's that? Texas is going to stop minorities from going to school? Looks like the National Guard isn't part of the executive today.


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Muh Lochner era


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, replicate what works


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
federal troops enforcing a SCOTUS decision worked pretty damn well.


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The weak point is the president giving the orders.


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly just let people elect SCOTUS justices directly


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck it, the whole branch is tainted with politics


[05-Jan-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they'll elect people like Arpaio, tho


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need a bit of indirection.


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one on it is impartial.


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I think that's mostly on Congress


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress is broken


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not perhaps, they're all biased


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it determines everything in the end.


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Presidents pick from lists chosen by partisan interest groups


[05-Jan-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to fix how Congress is elected.


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need short campaign seasons with only public funding of a given amount allowed to be spent on ads.


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Outside campain season? Campain ads illegalized.


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unconstitutional.


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that is, people can say "vote for so and so", but *can't be paid* to say it)


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money as speech is unsupportable.


[05-Jan-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise bribery is legal.


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Citizens United was wrong.


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very wrong.


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not being figurative


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean literal bribery


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in you giv a police officer money


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
to not be arrested


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
is legal under Citizens United if interpreted fully.


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you're just expressing your 1st amendment right.


[05-Jan-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money as speech is retarded.


[05-Jan-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a sad extension of corporations having to be legal people


[05-Jan-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's not


[05-Jan-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can make them legal people, but not make their money speech


[05-Jan-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
their speech is still speech.


[05-Jan-20 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
btw, I'm trying to remember the name of the "trans polish guy in the civil war" you mentioned and I'm not sure who that is


[05-Jan-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American Civil War?


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woops, wrong war


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Revolutionary War


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, Polaski was revolutionary war


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/07/science/casimir-pulaski-intersex.html

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Casimir Pulaski, Polish Hero of the Revolutionary War, Was Most Li...
Disputed remains were the right height and age and showed injuries consistent with the general’s life. There was just one catch: “The skeleton looked very female.”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/04/06/science/06xp-pulaski/06xp-pulaski-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
this one?


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[05-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tadeusz Kościuszko


[05-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was the Revolutionary War


[05-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh another Pole I guess


[05-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was thinking of it in terms of a civil war in England, cause of the similarity with Iraq and IS wanting to be a breakaway state etc.


[05-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the analogy breaks down cause in this case, the gov't side won


[05-Jan-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Soleimani's support


[05-Jan-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you get the idea.


[05-Jan-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663206678468231178/663273436856057857/qtvaocr5nu841.png

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[05-Jan-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, one thing worth living for would be seing european refugees flee to Ukraine and Russia.


[05-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Opponent#3498
this would truly prove Fate is sentient and has a sense of humor.


[05-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
... and why would european refugees be fleeing to ukraine and russia?


[05-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Opponent#3498
well where else? Egypt and such probably isn't viable. US... Well.


[05-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Opponent#3498
was responding to your meme there, that's what promted it.


[05-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-04-26/what-it-s-inside-refugee-camp-europeans-who-fled-syria-egypt-and-palestine-during

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During WWII, European refugees fled to Syria. Here's what the camp...
A rare collection of refugee camp reports chronicle journeys through Turkey and across the Mediterranean by refugees trying to leave Europe.
https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/open_graph/public/refugee_map.png?itok=kzk43kDT


[05-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/02/the-forgotten-story-of-european-refugee-camps-in-the-middle-east/


[05-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Opponent#3498
well, it was viable at some point.


[05-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Opponent#3498
actually didn't know that.


[05-Jan-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, one other reason as for why.


[05-Jan-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
food.


[05-Jan-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
reasonably easily accessible here.


[05-Jan-20 08:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e043255bd33ab318f71d1947716a5b94

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Soleimani's body arrives in Iran as Trump issues new threats
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — The body of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, who was killed in a U.S. drone strike, arrived Sunday in Iran to throngs of mourners, as President Donald Trump threatened to bomb 52 sites...
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[05-Jan-20 08:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Small cracks have appeared in GOP unity on impeachment trial
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate seems certain to keep President Donald Trump in office thanks to the overwhelming GOP support expected in his  impeachment trial. But how that trial will proceed — and...
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[05-Jan-20 08:31 AM] jlun2#8758
this appeared in my newsfeed  https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEIVDuSZqXMekU-IMdgi7A08qGQgEKhAIACoHCAowqeP_CjDdg_oCMMTh6QU?hl=en-CA&gl=CA&ceid=CA%3Aen

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‘This is message from Islamic Republic of Iran:’ U.S. agency s...
The homepage for the U.S. Federal Depository Library Program appeared to intermittently go offline and display a message purporting to be from hackers in Iran Saturday evening. Screenshots on the Wayback Machine — timestamped between 1:07 and 1:35 GMT Sunday, which is 8:07 ...
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[05-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
the most high-value organisation they could target. Yeah :/


[05-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498

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[05-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
this is what google found


[05-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
so, apparently not fake.


[05-Jan-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent did you see the blowout video I linked earlier


[05-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
I missed it. Gas drilling, gross negligence. Lovely. You'd think at least here people, who are not at all poorly payed or uneducated, do what the intructions told them to do.


[05-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
safety manuals are written in blood, I second that.


[05-Jan-20 08:45 AM] byte[]#2610
there's "rig culture" here


[05-Jan-20 08:45 AM] byte[]#2610
where you do stupid shit when the safety man isn't looking because you think he's a spoilsport just trying to ruin your fun


[05-Jan-20 08:46 AM] byte[]#2610
or because you think he's a hardass and you surely know what you're doing


[05-Jan-20 08:47 AM] byte[]#2610
if I saw the mud bubbling like it was depicted in that video I would be screaming to the control room to shut the bop


[05-Jan-20 08:47 AM] byte[]#2610
complete idiots on the rig didn't even know what they were looking at


[05-Jan-20 08:49 AM] byte[]#2610
we already have the decades and lives lost to making oil extraction safe


[05-Jan-20 08:50 AM] byte[]#2610
every time one of these senseless tragedies happens it's because the drillers did something completely boneheaded


[05-Jan-20 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the fact that I can't name that many of them offhand is at least a testament to the fact it is getting rarer


[05-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm, watching this, also partially a problem of subcontractor, no up-to-date manuals on the alarms. It being on would seemingly result in it blaring all the time and largely being ignored.


[05-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems the regulatory body came to the same conclusion.


[05-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're really good and experienced you don't need the manual and will sense when things go wrong, but on a new system, that's not gonna go well.


[05-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, seing high pressure or bubbles where there shouldn't be, that takes a special person to ignore.


[05-Jan-20 09:19 AM] byte[]#2610
the techniques in well management are wide and varied but the principles are as old as it gets


[05-Jan-20 09:19 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to balance formation pressure and mud pressure to prevent kicks


[05-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Opponent#3498
also, I can kinda understand getting lax with safety measures in 'normal' situation. Everything's according to plan, you get complacent. But to have this in a 'soft emergency' situation, like pulling the drill which from what I understand is much more likely to cause issues than going forward... Yeah.


[05-Jan-20 09:20 AM] byte[]#2610
if underbalance ever happens your first move should be to shut the bop


[05-Jan-20 09:21 AM] byte[]#2610
then truck in kill mud to push back the kick


[05-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, things were notably not going according to plan anyway.


[05-Jan-20 09:21 AM] byte[]#2610
they _kept drilling_


[05-Jan-20 09:22 AM] byte[]#2610
if overbalance happens you need to cement in the well, break off the drillstring, and divert around it, which is reliable and safe, but nobody wants to do this because it'll set you back a million a day


[05-Jan-20 09:22 AM] byte[]#2610
how much do you value a human life


[05-Jan-20 09:22 AM] byte[]#2610
is it worth a million a day?


[05-Jan-20 09:24 AM] byte[]#2610
btw, overbalance primarily happens because the drillers made a mistake running casing, which is actually kind of understandable because it's difficult to predict how deep you will need to go and what the formation pressure is between each strata


[05-Jan-20 09:24 AM] byte[]#2610
but the procedure for that is established: cement it in and divert


[05-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Opponent#3498
right, so this isn't a case of 'early detection enabling easy solution'. The solution would be reliable, but not easy.


[05-Jan-20 09:25 AM] byte[]#2610
underbalance is stupid easy to detect


[05-Jan-20 09:25 AM] byte[]#2610
if you have gas returning in the mud you need to pump heavier mud immediately


[05-Jan-20 09:27 AM] Opponent#3498
that was my first thought, but the rig itself seems to be designed with a different idea in mind. Gauge how bad the balance shift is, and if it can be ignored.


[05-Jan-20 09:28 AM] byte[]#2610
ixtoc i is the only documented case of an overbalance blowout I'm aware of


[05-Jan-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
they hit a soft sandy strata and they were losing all the mud they pumped into the formation so they pulled the drillstring out (!) which caused a kick and then a blowout that killed everyone on the rig


[05-Jan-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[05-Jan-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
and what would be a correct solution? Much of the same, ditch the drill bit, block the shaft and try somewhere else?


[05-Jan-20 09:32 AM] byte[]#2610
what they wanted to do was trip out the drillstring, remove the bit, and just use the open end of the pipe to cement the hole


[05-Jan-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
what they didn't account for was the rate at which they were losing mud which was way too fast and when they removing the drillstring it removed its own pressure as well which caused everything to flow back out


[05-Jan-20 09:34 AM] byte[]#2610
what they _should_ have done was left the drill bit on and just started pumping cement through it into the openhole


[05-Jan-20 09:34 AM] byte[]#2610
there's no time to worry about losing your drill bit if you're going to lose the entire well


[05-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[05-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well fair enough, this does seem to be a fool-proof solution. I assume the decisions start getting made and things start turning sideways when people decide to save the cost and salvage the drill bit.


[05-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
(and time)


[05-Jan-20 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
diverting a well is expensive


[05-Jan-20 09:37 AM] byte[]#2610
when you cement in a drillstring you need to run an explosive charge down into the pipe to break it off and free it


[05-Jan-20 09:37 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't a problem in and of itself but it takes a lot of time


[05-Jan-20 09:38 AM] byte[]#2610
then you have to trip out your severed drillstring, waste a couple of drill bits to chew through the casing and cement you already ran to start a new path, and then you will be back on track


[05-Jan-20 09:38 AM] byte[]#2610
hopefully with the knowledge that you need more casing trips


[05-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
casing trips meaning, pull regularily to see how the well reacts? Can't imagine subcontractors to be fond of that one too much.


[05-Jan-20 09:41 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[05-Jan-20 09:41 AM] byte[]#2610
casing is the steel pipe inside a wellbore


[05-Jan-20 09:42 AM] byte[]#2610
it's what protects the formation from the pressure exerted by the mud and prevents the upper parts from collapsing


[05-Jan-20 09:42 AM] byte[]#2610
each time you run casing the diameter of the well gets a little bit smaller, but it's absolutely required in any deep well


[05-Jan-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
you run a specific length of casing in, in a single trip, then pump cement around it to bind it to the formation


[05-Jan-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
then you resume drilling


[05-Jan-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
this is all sop for drilling


[05-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Opponent#3498
right. The words 'casing' and 'trip' confused me. Wonderful contextual english language :P


[05-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
>*randomly pops into polidicks*
>building technique discussion
Seems about right


[05-Jan-20 09:44 AM] byte[]#2610
schlumberger has an online dictionary I think


[05-Jan-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
the openhole is any part of the well that isn't cased yet


[05-Jan-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/en/Terms/c/casing.aspx


[05-Jan-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/t/trip.aspx


[05-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I was looking at wiki and didn't find this term there. Thanks.


[05-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Opponent#3498
right, so the idea is, to do that more often, smaller sections at a time, as this area is prone to leak and cause issues.


[05-Jan-20 09:47 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[05-Jan-20 09:47 AM] byte[]#2610
as you can see from the diagram though that may not always be viable


[05-Jan-20 09:48 AM] byte[]#2610
each time you run casing you have to switch to the next smallest drill size


[05-Jan-20 09:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and eventually you run out of sizes


[05-Jan-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
at that point you have to plug the well and either divert from higher up or abandon it altogether


[05-Jan-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
which tends to make oil executives mad


[05-Jan-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/china-russia-iran-joint-naval-drills-191227183505159.html

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China, Russia and Iran begin joint naval drills
The four-day exercise in the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Oman comes at a time of heightened tensions between US and Iran.
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[05-Jan-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jan-20 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
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[05-Jan-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/05/world/middleeast/iran-general-soleimani-iraq.amp.html

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Iraqi Lawmakers Vote to Expel U.S. Troops as Iran Mourns a Slain G...
Hundreds of thousands poured into the streets of Iran to pay their respects to Maj. General Qassim Suleimani, who was killed in a U.S. drone strike.
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[05-Jan-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iraq divorced us


[05-Jan-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is going to be a messy abusive divorce


[05-Jan-20 04:16 PM] ononim#8141
Imagine not just war with Iran


[05-Jan-20 04:17 PM] ononim#8141
But a war with Iran what also takes place inIraq territory again


[05-Jan-20 04:18 PM] ononim#8141
History starts too look like a circle, a circle so little it appears as a dot


[05-Jan-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is technically florida man now because he now legally lives in florida


[05-Jan-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all trump headlines can now be read as "florida man ______ ________ ______


[05-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is australia like this


[05-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I swear every one of their PMs has been a gargantuan tosser for the last 30 years


[05-Jan-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently going on vacation counts as taking an extra work shift...


[05-Jan-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder when i get to apply this to my future job


[05-Jan-20 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Jan-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with our healthcare  money of course!


[05-Jan-20 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-qassem-soleimani_n_5e117968e4b0843d361379ea

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Bernie Sanders Announces Bill To Block Funds For War Against Iran
The measure would restrict federal funding of any offensive military action against Iran “without congressional authorization.”
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[05-Jan-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the thing about trump


[05-Jan-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
is that he'd just poach the money from other pentagon projects


[05-Jan-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
and say it's all a sham


[05-Jan-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
scotus might order him to stop but nothing will stop this man


[05-Jan-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
this man is so recklessly immoral and uncontrollable that this bill, even if it passes (unlikely) is only a symbolic measure


[05-Jan-20 06:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it'd be a symbolic measure anyway, congress already has this power to begin with


[05-Jan-20 06:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
though I suppose this is the way that power is carried out


[05-Jan-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they need to include a passage regarding snipers and how they will act if trump steps out of line on this spending


[05-Jan-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938

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[05-Jan-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
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World war
A world war is "a war engaged in by all or most of the principal nations of the world". While a variety of global conflicts have been subjectively deemed "world wars", such as the Cold War and the War on Terror, the term is widely and usually accepted only as it is retrospect...


[05-Jan-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-drives-millions-out-on-street-to-mourn-soleimani-dwarfing-the-size-of-his-inauguration-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump drives ‘millions’ out on street to mourn Soleimani, dwar...
President Donald Trump reportedly drove “hundreds of thousands” or possibly more Iraqis and Iranians out of their homes to protest the assassination of military commander Qassem Soleimani. The crowd rivaled the size of the U.S. president’s own inauguration ceremony. “...


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[05-Jan-20 07:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/12/29/security-guards-afghan-warlords-mass-civilian-casualties/2675795001/

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Inside the U.S. military's raid against its own security guards th...
G4S subsidiary ArmorGroup hired Afghan warlords who battled with U.S. Marines. It ended with one of the worst civilian casualty disasters of the war.
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[05-Jan-20 07:55 PM] ononim#8141
Death to America


[05-Jan-20 07:59 PM] illumnious#7938

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[05-Jan-20 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
```all trump headlines can now be read as "florida man __ __ __```


[05-Jan-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
Florida man is daring, fearless and if harm befall him, it befalls him alone.


[05-Jan-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump is... very much not either of those :(


[05-Jan-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the Australia thing https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/23/scott-morrison-hawaii-holiday-extra-plumbing-contract-friday-afternoon

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PM says ‘we can all make better decisions on occasions’ as he again defends government position on climate change amid catastrophic bushfires
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[05-Jan-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
EAT THE RICH


[05-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not enough concentration camp islands to vacation on in Australia?


[05-Jan-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/australia-fires-woman-forced-to-shake-prime-minister-scott-morrison-hand-cobargo-disappointed-in-wildfire-response/

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Australian woman forced to shake prime minister's hand upset by wi...
"I told him it was a war zone, and he walked away, and it broke my heart," the Cobargo resident said
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[05-Jan-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Should've punched the fukker out.


[05-Jan-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Should've kikked him in the fukking nuts to let go.


[05-Jan-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, both options are legal.


[05-Jan-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
If someone grabs your hand without your consent you are allowed to beat the shit out of them until they let go.


[05-Jan-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that Captain Marvel scene, she was legally in the clear.


[05-Jan-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Up until I think she stole a motorcycle


[05-Jan-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, reminder:


[05-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
`A Narcissist's Prayer: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it.`


[05-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is step 3: "And if [vacationing while my country I was in charge of literally burned] was [bad], that's not a big deal."


[05-Jan-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jan-20 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ashena is part of the Iranian Moderation and Development Party, which is roughly pragmatic-centrist and focuses more on economic growth than social reform


[05-Jan-20 09:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
just to put that statement into context


[05-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't really matter


[05-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to take the bird's eye view here


[05-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump assassinated the IS slayer.


[05-Jan-20 09:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, I decided to look into who this guy in particular is because I guarantee that he, and the party he represents, would be considered "liberal" by Trump sympathizers if they looked into his ideology


[05-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah


[05-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iran's top leadership didn't much like the Iran deal, but a lot of their politicians did


[05-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
for the exact same reason as Republicans and Democrats respectively


[05-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iran is by Republican standards liberal


[05-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, Republicans would very much like to be able to oppress women as much as Iran does


[05-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the idea of actually compromising etc., that's haram.


[05-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans under Trump hav become nothing but fascists.


[05-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He tossed out most anyone that would challenge him.


[05-Jan-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also had several states cancel primaries to prevent a rise up of republican uprisings from dethroning him


[05-Jan-20 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iran-pulling-out-nuclear-deal-following-u-s-strike-killed-n1110636

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Iran pulling out of nuclear deal commitment after U.S. strike that...
State TV reported Iran will no longer restrict uranium enrichment, part of the 2015 deal limiting the country's nuclear program in exchange for easing sanctions.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_01/3171776/200105-iran-protest-soleimani-cs-127p_2d3d97eb505defc922e97975121b2707.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[05-Jan-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
if the US goes to war against iran, I think this might be the first time we see nukes used in actual combat


[05-Jan-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
it's the only way that iran lasts any meaningful amount of time against the US


[05-Jan-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
iran doesn't have the capability of hitting the US mainland, but that doesn't stop it from nuking a carrier flotilla


[05-Jan-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CoolCatlovesyou/status/1213441496763879429 coming to dvd this february: cool cat commits mass nuclear genocide!

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https://twitter.com/CoolCatlovesyou/status/1213441496763879429
Everyone listen - there will be NO WWIII.  And there be NO Draft!  America can crush Iran easier than popping a pimple, so don't be scared 😁 #coolcat https://t.co/b6GJGD8k2R
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[05-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice to know Cool Cat doesn't think Iranians are people


[05-Jan-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't the creator behind it like


[05-Jan-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Completely snap


[05-Jan-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just remember there was a movie the clips of which seemed like some YT channel parody shit on coke


[05-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like something from Funny or Die


[05-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it was genuine at first and the guy is mentally ill so he embraced the meme and just made it worse idk


[05-Jan-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird to watch


[05-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo

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Funny Or Die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo
Don Cheadle is Captain Planet
Become a fan on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/funnyordie

Don Cheadle is obviously the best person to play Captain Planet in the movie version of the popular cartoon, hopefully they make his character a nicer guy.

See the original at: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/587...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TwJaELXadKo/hqdefault.jpg


[05-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
daddy derek went insane trying to take down every negative review of cool cat with copy right lawsuits


[05-Jan-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then coolcat just went full right wing insanity and i have no idea what the fuck even


[05-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile in Spain, the "socialists" lost the first vote to form government


[05-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
First vote needs 2/3rds majority, second vote just needs a simple majority


[05-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pointless process, but anyway


[05-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll win by 166 to 165


[05-Jan-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And will form government after allying with literal terrorists and proud racists that have repeatedly stated they want the state destroyed and see spaniards as less than human


[05-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And this, after they could have formed government over half a year ago but refused to cede any government seats (ministeries / secretaries) to the other leftist party, because they wanted absolute control


[05-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now, after forcing the country through yet another election (and a complete lack of government plus massive expenditure due to it), not only have they had to cede a third of the government to that other party, but have lowered their pants and bent over for racists and terrorists


[05-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking PSOE


[05-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seen today: the very rare poorly drawn hammer and sickle on a monument


[05-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"No war" next to it


[05-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
how the fuck are those two related


[05-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Soviets loved war


[05-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was on a WWI memorial too


[05-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So maybe that works?


[05-Jan-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also if there's anyone but the US that knows not to fight middle East wars it was the Soviets


[05-Jan-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
When it comes to propaganda about war, people go nuts


[05-Jan-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's obfuscation.


[05-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How will we pay for this war in Iran


[05-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Education, health care, and infrastructure, obvs


[05-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Combined with a corporate tax cut to "incentivize growth and investment", ofc


[05-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uUGQOcu1A&t=142

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Renegade Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uUGQOcu1A&start=142
Burning King's Landing - "It's Only Terrorism If They Do It to Us"...
How Americans see the war on terror, civilian casualties and the finale to Grand of Thrones. Support Renegade Cut Media through Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/renegadecut

Content Warning: Images of war

#gameofthrones #gameofthronesfinale

BIBLIOGRAPHY AND FURTHER READING:
...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/C4uUGQOcu1A/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
this is suddenly super relevant again


[05-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
> In March of 2019, President Donald Trump signed an executive order revoking the requirement that American intelligence officials publicly report the number of civilians killed in drone strikes and other attacks on allegedly terrorist targets outside of war zones.


[05-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmmm


[06-Jan-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/eiivtu/when_a_trump_cultist_points_to_the_stock_market/fcu16cm/>
https://image.prntscr.com/image/NQUVW5bfRkCFwZ9FtrdZZQ.png

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[06-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-06/trump-cancels-u-s-report-on-civilian-deaths-in-drone-strikes


[06-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Graph high that mean good life- Neoliberal/conservative


[06-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0146167212439213

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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0146167212439213
SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals
Subscription and open access journals from SAGE Publishing, the world's leading independent academic publisher.
https://journals.sagepub.com/pb-assets/Images/SJ_Twitter_Card.jpg


[06-Jan-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Low-Effort Thought Promotes Political Conservatism


[06-Jan-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/iran-offers-80million-bounty-donald-21219180

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/iran-offers-80million-bounty-donald-21219180
Iran 'offers $80million bounty for Donald Trump's head' after deat...
Iranian authorities have put a bounty on American President Donald Trump's head during the televised funeral of General Qasem Soleimani after he was assassinated last week
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21219279.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/0_Trump-Campaign-Launches-Evangelicals-For-Trump-Coalition-In-Miami.jpg


[06-Jan-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
neat


[06-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/iran-trump-bounty/

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David Mikkelson
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/iran-trump-bounty/
Did Iran Offer an $80M Bounty for Trump's Head?
The amount of the bounty is supposedly based on Iran's population.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/11/1000-42.jpeg?fit=1000,666


[06-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Mixture


[06-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
> What's true: A eulogist heard on Iranian state TV during the funeral procession of Qassem Soleimani called for an $80M bounty on President Trump's head.


[06-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
> What's undetermined: The call for a bounty on Trump is not yet known to have been authorized by, or represent the official position of, Iranian authorities.


[06-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
on the plus side, a bounty that large would actually keep trump locked up in the white house


[06-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
so he couldn't golf


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
or campaign


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be higher, unfair that only iranian population counts


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sure a whole many others would gladly pitch in a buck


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow man I understand why renegade does this, but I really miss when he focused more on the movies in question, while also talking about the bigger issues


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-tweets-count-as-official-congress-notification-iran-attacks-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-tweets-count-as-official-congress-notification-iran-attacks-2020-1
Trump claims his 'Media Posts' on Twitter now count as official no...
There is no basis for President Trump's claim, because tweets do not constitute official congressional notification.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e114248855cc271c6512244?width=1200&format=jpeg


[06-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
you're the one who originaly linked the video


[06-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
I've had it sitting in my tabs for months


[06-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
just got around to watching it


[06-Jan-20 12:07 AM] ononim#8141
tho I guess most people wouldn't find out about things like chinese neo colonialism in africa so I guess a loss here a win there


[06-Jan-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> Country expert: In the semester, you will be asked to select a country from a list. Please note that you should aim to become an ‘expert’ on it during this semester. You are expected to use your knowledge of this country to apply theories and concepts from class and also use your country knowledge to contribute to discussions in recitation. In both the midterm and the final exam there will be a question in which you will be asked to apply theconcepts learned in this course to your country of expertise.


[06-Jan-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
for comparative politics


[06-Jan-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
any ideas on what I should do


[06-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go for Moldavia


[06-Jan-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
can I do one I've heard of


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
bulgaria


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
lol yeah I could do that


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
become an expert on the repper


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
:reppy:


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
San Marino


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ex soviet, tiny, peppered with bunkers meant to stop the west from invading, currently one sneeze away from being occupied by men in green uniforms as a staging point for something else


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Andorra


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
>peppered


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Monaco


[06-Jan-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
:reppy:


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cyprus


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
moldavia isn't a country tho


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's a part of romania


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
this class is probably going to be a fucking drag


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
there are only two grades, midterm and final


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
probably need to switch out for a different class


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova

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Moldova
Moldova ( (listen), sometimes UK: ), officially the Republic of Moldova (Romanian: Republica Moldova), is a landlocked country in Eastern Europe, bordered by Romania to the west and Ukraine to the north, east, and south. The capital city is Chișinău.
Most of the Moldovan te...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Flag_of_Moldova.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Moldova.svg.png


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
let me see what options I have


[06-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice erasure, Crow


[06-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would choose a microstate just to fuck with my prof tbh


[06-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All those eastern european countries are just one big "former soviet block" I guess


[06-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
oh, it's right between romania and ukraine


[06-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently moldavia is also a historical region


[06-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
YOU MEAN WEST RUSSIA


[06-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
ohh, moldova is the country


[06-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
moldavia is the region the country lies in


[06-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
you said moldavia first


[06-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[06-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/MoldovaToday.png

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/MoldovaToday.png


[06-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Uh


[06-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is Crimea coloured funny there?


[06-Jan-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be yellow, like the rest of Ukraine


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
I found it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova_(disambiguation)

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Moldova (disambiguation)
Moldova, officially the Republic of Moldova, is a country in southeastern Europe.
Moldova or Moldavia may also refer to:


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNK7dRedG3I

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hepimordkaTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNK7dRedG3I
Eastern Poland - Child
AdsHub collection.

One of three spots that are part of "Why didn't you invest in Eastern Poland?" campaign.
The campaign was one of the points of the Eastern Poland Economic Promotion Programme, which was implemented by Polish Information and Foreign Investment Agency.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kNK7dRedG3I/hqdefault.jpg


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/2/28/20160713182139%21MoldovaToday.png

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[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
this is what it used to look like in 2011


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/MoldovaToday.png

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[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
it got changed to this in 2016


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Real cool, wikipedia


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Real cool


[06-Jan-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MoldovaToday.png>


[06-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also that weird cockblock by Ukraine to keep Moldova from having a coastline


[06-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Hey Ukraine can i have coast"


[06-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"No"


[06-Jan-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why the fuck did Stalin decide to do this


[06-Jan-20 12:34 AM] ononim#8141
Why the fuck did Stalin decide to do this [2]


[06-Jan-20 12:36 AM] ononim#8141
Fuck "Stalin bad because he killed innocents", fuck "Stalin bad because he was an idiot in marxism, geopolitics and strategyy" the real MVP is "Stalin bad because of the border gore he made in Moldova"


[06-Jan-20 12:39 AM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/493185238189604875/663495922235473950/IMG_20200105_183502.jpg
kek

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[06-Jan-20 12:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think I'm gonna need some context


[06-Jan-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/evz062u6oy841.jpg

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[06-Jan-20 12:41 AM] ononim#8141
@WingbeatPony on the right


[06-Jan-20 12:41 AM] ononim#8141
a HK police version of the thin blue line flag


[06-Jan-20 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh yeah, I saw that, didn't really register as kekworthy


[06-Jan-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/05/us/politics/trump-iran-cultural-sites.html

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By Maggie Haberman
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/05/us/politics/trump-iran-cultural-sites.html
Trump Reiterates Threat to Target Iranian Cultural Sites
Such a move could be a war crime, but the president argued: “They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people. And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way.”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/05/multimedia/05dc-trump/05dc-trump-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
title should be "Trump Reiterates Conspiracy to Commit War Crimes" tbh


[06-Jan-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"donald trump thinks it's unfair that only bad guys get to commit war crimes"


[06-Jan-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
donald trump is perfectly okay with being the villain in the story


[06-Jan-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just doesnt want to be one of those namby pamby villains in a story where the hero wins


[06-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/buttigieg-high-dollar-donors-from-admininistration-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/buttigieg-high-dollar-donors-from-admininistration-2020-1
Pete Buttigieg said he won't commit to excluding high-dollar donor...
Pete Buttigieg said on CNN that he wouldn't follow Sen. Elizabeth Warren's pledge to exclude wealthy donors from the White House.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e121255855cc20b6d28f623?width=1200&format=jpeg


[06-Jan-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
doesnt his campaign site have a big flashing "buy me" button on it?


[06-Jan-20 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do not get this guy's game plan. When he first started making rounds he looked like some kind of wunderkind


[06-Jan-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now it seems like he's doing everything he possibly can to get rekt


[06-Jan-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sees biden in first place and likely assumes that copying biden is the key to victory


[06-Jan-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's basically young gay biden at this point anyway


[06-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[06-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For the past few months he's just Biden Jr


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony you weren't paying attention.


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was never progressive, or looked it


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden but less likely to die in office


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And also gay I guess


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the stories of the day just didn't show his true face


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, this guy was mayor of South Bend, Indiana


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no I get that and I'm fully aware of it


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he;s acceptibly gay in that he isnt advocating for any gay rights shit


[06-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
a town dying due to high crime, unemployment, decaying homes


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
His solution was to pump money into the rich white business area


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it would remain afloat while the fringes with blakks died horribly


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it worked


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but, like, what did he think he was going to accomplish by playing too good to be true


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
the town started growing


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
the inequality increased


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakk homes were demolished to make way for white gentrified homes


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
1000 homes in 1000 days


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, I am familiar with this


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
a miracle


[06-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
for white people only.


[06-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Him being Biden Jr. is...unsurprising.


[06-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, he only did THAT after pushing by progressives


[06-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it wasn't his idea


[06-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted to basically do nothing.


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda) @Teaspoon, he's always been young gay biden


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
since the beginning


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_remembers when Beto was running_


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is the media is prone to hype.


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Feels like a lifetime ago


[06-Jan-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forgot beto wasa thing


[06-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
beto is young biden


[06-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
buttigieg is young gay biden


[06-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beto is young tuff on crime Biden, actually


[06-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg is young gay gentrificational Biden


[06-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When's Iowa again?


[06-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
March?


[06-Jan-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh kamala harris is no longer in it


[06-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Feb 3


[06-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How the fuck is Klobuchar polling better than Yang


[06-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What even is her platform


[06-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I exist"?


[06-Jan-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt even know she existed


[06-Jan-20 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Let's not get too progressive, fellas :) "?


[06-Jan-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"C'mon guys, let;s not forget i exist too"


[06-Jan-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently her platform is talking *vaguely* about the middle class


[06-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
middle class is a meme


[06-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't exist


[06-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just a way to trap people into thinking they're being cared for


[06-Jan-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's probably why it;s vague


[06-Jan-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
personally i liked williamson, probably wouldn't make a good president but she seems like a fun person


[06-Jan-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh williamson is still in it


[06-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just fired her entire team, though


[06-Jan-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[06-Jan-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, she;s using volunteers now... well, she became less fun


[06-Jan-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, I really don't like what this'll do to the Middle East


[06-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's almost perfect for what it'll do as far as the presidency.


[06-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is over the line.


[06-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress might actually say that the president cannot declare war.


[06-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
```moldavia isn't a country tho```


[06-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
been said already, but, muh erasure :reppy:


[06-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
'Moldavia' (Молдавия) is how it's spelled in russian, actually.


[06-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And spanish, and likely every language but english, because :english:


[06-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
PINE. APPLE.


[06-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
POMME DE TERRE


[06-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
:squintyjack:


[06-Jan-20 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ANANAS


[06-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[06-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate shit like this


[06-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like maybe, just maybe


[06-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No X-group members got nominated


[06-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because no X-group members made the cut


[06-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't wait to live in a world where everything is 100% equally represented based on current demographics and personal merits come far, far second


[06-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Six amazing movies get made with male directors? Sorry mate, this is 2020, we need to bump you off to slot in a female director or else we look bad


[06-Jan-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Best part is if (or rather when, because people will absolutely force it) things get "reversed", it'll be celebrated


[06-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is none made the cut because men are often given more resources; this is very common in a variety of fields.


[06-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the further problem is by focusing on the results instead of the causes, it obfuscates how to fix it.


[06-Jan-20 06:51 AM] Pretty#9306
"that would never happen again" so next nominations will be rigged in order to have at least one woman nominated? Hmm


[06-Jan-20 06:52 AM] Pretty#9306
Oh, they were joking lol nvm


[06-Jan-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-nuclear/netanyahu-in-apparent-stumble-calls-israel-nuclear-power-idUSKBN1Z40CS

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[06-Jan-20 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/trump-threatens-to-slap-sanctions-on-iraq-like-theyve-never-seen-before.html

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Trump threatens to slap sanctions on Iraq 'like they've never seen...
His remarks come after the Iraqi parliament passed a resolution calling for the government to expel foreign troops from the country.
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[06-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanctions for resisting foreign occupation...


[06-Jan-20 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
we're swifty approaching the point that trump as president is a clear and present danger to not just the stability and future of the united states, but the rest of the world as well


[06-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
it's like he woke up and suddenly realized he could do his illegal shit anywhere in the world, he wasn't just limited to US politics


[06-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
or more likely putin manipulated him into realizing it


[06-Jan-20 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
he's probably on the biggest power trip of his life right now


[06-Jan-20 08:04 AM] Opponent#3498
this would actually be plausible. Unlike the 'Russia elects US presidents' meme, swift reaction is something russian leadership is really good at.


[06-Jan-20 08:05 AM] Opponent#3498
the guy's tripping balls, well we'll push him over the edge and enjoy the fireworks.


[06-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/05/alarming-iranian-americans-reportedly-detained-asked-about-political-views-us-border

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"Deeply disturbed by reports that Iranian-Americans, including U.S. citizens, are being detained at the Canadian border with WA State," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal.
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[06-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Yuri#4154
What the fuck, America


[06-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're late to the party asking that one


[06-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's administration has been openingly doing unconstitutional things since day one.


[06-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Yuri#4154
I've been asking myself that question more and more these past few days tbh


[06-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to murder the presidency as an office of real power.


[06-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's basically making himself a king.


[06-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using the groundwork laid since Reagan.


[06-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this stuff was common in the first half of the 20th century, but FDR kind of turned it around for a while


[06-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon and Reagan however wanted a return to the paranoid, nationalist, isolationist, racist times


[06-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You criticize my desire for an Executive Council and people would undoubtedly bring up Triumvirate comparisons or some shit


[06-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it might be best.


[06-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again, imagine a Council of like, Trump, Bernie, Pelosi, and McConnell


[06-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Macarou#9574
The Swiss have an Executive Council, do they not?


[06-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a parliamentary system, that would work. Where a PM has the real power


[06-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe so.


[06-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Opponent#3498
that too has failed the British :P


[06-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with an executive council is you aren't solving the actual problems


[06-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
the presidency being one man isn't the issue


[06-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that it's very disconnected from any responsibility.


[06-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
the rule of law is not being applied to the president is the problem


[06-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
the main problem is that bullshit about how a sitting president can't be indicted


[06-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/soleimani-strike-law/604417/

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The Soleimani Strike Defied the U.S. Constitution
If Congress fails to respond effectively, the constitutional order will be broken beyond repair, and the president will be left with the unmitigated power to take the country to war on his own—anywhere, anytime, for any reason.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2020/01/RTS2VVHF/facebook.jpg?1578087279


[06-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
> As nearly every account of Soleimani’s killing has made clear, he was responsible for the deaths of thousands, including hundreds of Americans. Soleimani was the principal architect of Iran’s successful regional ascendancy in the Middle East—through both direct action and an array of insurgent proxy forces that have fueled conflicts across the region. Presidents before Trump, however, held back from taking action against Soleimani, concluding that doing so would spark war with Iran and unleash its proxy forces against the U.S. and its allies.


[06-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Their lawyers also almost certainly counseled that such action would be illegal. Any significant military action requires legal authority under both domestic and international law. Normally, domestic law would require the president to seek the approval of Congress, usually through a law authorizing the use of military force (after all, the Constitution gives Congress, not the president, the power to “declare war”). International law would also require him to seek the approval of the United Nations Security Council before resorting to force, unless the host state consents (which it did not) or the action qualifies for the express, but narrow, self-defense exception. Trump did not seek approval in either forum.


[06-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Though presidents have pushed the boundaries of their unilateral authority before, this action by President Trump is arguably unprecedented. When President Barack Obama participated in the NATO strikes in Libya, at least the operation was undertaken with allies and approved by the United Nations Security Council. (He later stated that the operation was the worst mistake of his presidency.) When President George W. Bush invaded Iraq in 2003, his international support was tenuous, but he had clear congressional authorization. In fact, the closest recent precedent for the current operation is President Trump’s own earlier decisions to strike Syrian-government targets in April 2017 and again in April 2018—without either congressional or international support. But those strikes were relatively minor in comparison and did not risk setting off a new regional war.


[06-Jan-20 10:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/05/785672201/deceased-gop-strategists-daughter-makes-files-public-that-republicans-wanted-sea

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Deceased GOP Strategist's Daughter Makes Files Public That Republi...
Republicans in North Carolina fought in court to stop computer files found on the redistricting expert's hard drives from going public. Now his daughter, Stephanie Hofeller, is sharing them online.
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[06-Jan-20 10:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehofellerfiles.com/

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https://thehofellerfiles.com/
The Hofeller Files


[06-Jan-20 10:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jan-20 10:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This feels so sad its funny


[06-Jan-20 12:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jan-20 12:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jan-20 01:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gotta get that sweet nazi rally money.


[06-Jan-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the headline should actually read "chick-fil-a continues to donate millions to anti-LGBTQ groups but forgets to switch accounts before doing so"


[06-Jan-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7854971/Soleimani-Iraq-discuss-escalating-tensions-Saudis-killed-PM-says.html

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Soleimani 'negotiated de-escalation with Saudis when he was killed'
Adel Abdul Mahdi (left), Iraq's caretaker prime minister, said he was due to meet with top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani (right) on the day he was killed in Baghdad on Friday.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/06/00/23029370-0-image-a-21_1578270643825.jpg


[06-Jan-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, shit


[06-Jan-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/body-of-commander-slain-by-us-strike-arrives-in-iran-to-crowds-of-mourners/2020/01/05/4ca3281a-2f17-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html also washington post just for verification


[06-Jan-20 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jan-20 01:20 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So it's a planned murder now?


[06-Jan-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently so


[06-Jan-20 01:38 PM] ononim#8141
Yank givernnent is commedically evil


[06-Jan-20 01:39 PM] ononim#8141
Tho I heard Trump was presented with multiple option of what to do, withh droning Soleimani being the crazy option only there to make others look better


[06-Jan-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the simpsons movie predicted this...


[06-Jan-20 01:40 PM] ononim#8141
But retard in charge went with iy, if these rumors to be believed


[06-Jan-20 01:40 PM] ononim#8141
Tho both may be true


[06-Jan-20 01:41 PM] ononim#8141
He probably just forgot his name five minutes after asking to help with deescalation


[06-Jan-20 02:23 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why can't we just not vote Trump in 2020?


[06-Jan-20 02:23 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Unlike last year, this one has a lot of candidates


[06-Jan-20 02:24 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Which means more options than just "Trump or Hilary"


[06-Jan-20 02:42 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), are you sure that's the right washington post article?


[06-Jan-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not seeing anything in that article that corroborates the claims made in the dailymail article


[06-Jan-20 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://i.imgur.com/WRSz5bI.jpg

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[06-Jan-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
this is the only other article I've found so far which says something similar to the dailymail article https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/iraqis-vote-to-expel-u-s-as-soleimani-fallout-worsens.html

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Iraqi Lawmakers Vote to Expel U.S. As Fallout From Soleimani Strik...
Iraq’s parliament, prime minister, and most powerful religious leader all want America out, and the U.S.-led fight against ISIS has come to a halt.
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[06-Jan-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
> In his comments on Sunday, Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi decried the U.S. strike as illegal and defended Soleimani, claiming that the Iranian general was his guest and that they had planned to meet on the morning he was killed to go over a Saudi proposal to defuse tensions. He also said that before the drone strike, Trump had called him to request he help mediate the conflict with Iran.


[06-Jan-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
oh, never mind, I see the part in the washington post article


[06-Jan-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
> Abdul Mahdi suggested Sunday that Iran and the Saudis had been engaged in dialogue to tamp down their feud, with Iraq playing the role of mediator. Abdul Mahdi said he had been expecting to meet with Soleimani on the day he was killed. “He came to deliver me a message from Iran, responding to the message we delivered from Saudi Arabia to Iran,” the prime minister said, without providing details.


[06-Jan-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

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General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five ...
Originally published in March 2007
General Wesley Clark:
Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some o...
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[06-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zwd9rYMPM

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Iran and Qassem Soleimani defeated ISIS, while US allies helped it
Ben Norton explains how Iran and its top General Qassem Soleimani, who was just killed in a US drone strike (a criminal act of war), were leading forces who militarily defeating ISIS. Meanwhile, Washington's allies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey supported ISIS and al-Qa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G_zwd9rYMPM/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
also, I found this video when I was looking up stuff about how soleimani was in iraq to negotiate a de-escalation with saudi arabia


[06-Jan-20 03:36 PM] Crow#5457
it started out ok, but the more I watch it, the more it seems kinda conspiracy theorish


[06-Jan-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
terms like the "mainstream corporate media", and then this stuff about saudi arabia supposedly supporting ISIS


[06-Jan-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
apparently there were leaked emails from hillary's private servers which showed that the US had evidence that both saudi arabia and qatar were financially supporting ISIS


[06-Jan-20 03:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yeah


[06-Jan-20 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They funded al-qaeda, it tracks they'd follow its successors


[06-Jan-20 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-is-saudi-arabia-funding-isis

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FactCheck Q&A: Is Saudi Arabia funding ISIS?
The Wikileaks files suggest there have been western efforts to "bring pressure" on Saudi Arabia to end its support for ISIS.
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[06-Jan-20 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
> Perhaps the most powerful indication of Saudi’s financial links with ISIS can be seen in the cache of emails leaked from the office of Hillary Clinton, who was US Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013.
> 
> The messages, published by Wikileaks, contain an unambiguous statement by her campaign chairman, John Podesta:
> 
> “We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”


[06-Jan-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
those emails were from early in ISIS's reign though


[06-Jan-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
ISIS started carrying out terrorist attacks in saudi arabia later


[06-Jan-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
which I assume is a form of arrogance on ISIS's part


[06-Jan-20 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-51000419

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Two Venezuela lawmakers declare themselves Speaker
The US says it still recognises opposition lawmaker Juan Guaidó as Venezuela's legitimate leader.
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[06-Jan-20 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
```On Sunday he was quick to back Luis Parra, a former Guaidó ally, saying Mr Guaidó had been "kicked out of the National Assembly by the votes of his own opposition".```


[06-Jan-20 04:00 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[06-Jan-20 04:17 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ivanka-and-trump-organization-linked-to-suleimanis-front-company-new-yorker-writer/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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[06-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i remember that wapo link being something else but maybe i was wrong...

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[06-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/julian-castro-endorses-elizabeth-warren-president-2020-election-2020-1

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Julian Castro endorses Elizabeth Warren for president
Castro dropped out of the 2020 presidential race last week, and his endorsement is a boon for Warren.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e134be0855cc2424d3231c4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[06-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That 0.25% of polling's gonna boost her over the top I'm sure


[06-Jan-20 05:31 PM] jlun2#8758
i personally gave up and just assume trump already won 2020


[06-Jan-20 05:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
there's 11 months of crazy left


[06-Jan-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this poit i;m just hoping trump goes so insane he ends up trying to assassinate himself because he suspects he's turned against him


[06-Jan-20 06:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
OwO *notices ur bots*

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[06-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/06/politics/john-bolton-testify-impeachment-subpoena/index.html

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John Bolton says he is prepared to testify in Senate trial if subp...
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton said Monday he is willing to testify — if he is subpoenaed — in the Senate's impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.
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[06-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-did-not-brief-congress-but-told-mar-a-lago-members-to-expect-big-action-against-iran/

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Trump did not brief Congress — but told Mar-a-Lago members to ex...
President Donald Trump did not brief Congress prior to ordering the assassination of Iranian General Qassim Suleimani. But Mar-a-Lago members had a head’s up, according to a new report. “In the five days prior to launching a strike that killed Iran’s most important mili...
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[06-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/us/texas-infant-life-support-tinslee-lewis/index.html

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A Texas judge says hospital can remove 11-month-old Tinslee Lewis ...
A judge has decided that a Texas children's hospital can remove an 11-month-old with a rare heart defect off life support despite her family's wishes.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191113024032-texas-infant-life-support-super-tease.jpg


[06-Jan-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
>Texas judge


[06-Jan-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
well I know how that one goes


[06-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican leadership wants the kid kept suffering on life support forever


[06-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The judiciary is not however a big fan of that idea.


[06-Jan-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor are doctors.


[06-Jan-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially this is the inevitable result of being "pro-life", all the experts tell you that the infant can never ever liv healthily and you're just all "we will keep her sedated on life support UNTIL SHE DIES OF OLD AGE"


[06-Jan-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Women4UBI/status/1213957249242030080

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https://twitter.com/Women4UBI/status/1213957249242030080
Quote of the Day:
"If Iranian hackers wanna pull off some real big dick energy shit, wipe out US student loan debt. If the student loan debt is wiped, they will lose this as leverage to recruit for the military."
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[06-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
...not incorrect.


[06-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
suddenly unironically :bigbrain:


[06-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
also would guarantee unshakable broad public support


[06-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/pope-slaps-womans-hand-apology

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The Pope Apologized For Slapping A Woman's Hand Away But The Memes...
As the pope greeted people in Vatican City, one rather eager woman grabbed his hand and yanked him toward herself, clutching onto him.
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[06-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
How is this politics?


[06-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about some dumb memes.


[06-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
something something noone's safe from court of public opinion. Although I don't know much about him and if he deserves some shit his way regardless.


[06-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As popes go, he's not too bad


[06-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/politics/state-department-us-citizens-leave-iraq/index.html

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US citizens urged to depart Iraq after airstrike kills Iranian com...
The State Department urged US citizens Friday to leave Iraq immediately following an airstrike ordered by President Donald Trump that killed Qasem Soleimani, a key Iranian military commander at Baghdad International Airport.
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[06-Jan-20 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1214275758643929089

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U.S.-led coalition tells Iraqi military it will withdraw from Iraq out of respect for the nation's sovereignty https://t.co/SaQJgbaGgD
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[06-Jan-20 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 Mr. Doritos vetoes this


[06-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/soleimani-colin-kaepernick-us-terrorist-attacks-black-brown-people

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After Soleimani death, Colin Kaepernick decries US 'terrorist atta...
Former NFL player Colin Kaepernick on Saturday accused the United States of targeting minorities "at home and abroad," just days after the administration ordered a drone strike that killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/11/a77ca6f5-Colin-Kaepernick4.jpg


[06-Jan-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/253ecla1l3941.jpg

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[06-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Damn, his face _is_ oddly small...


[06-Jan-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-dangled-extra-incentives-in-initial-bid-to-lure-amazon-hq2-11578153600

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New York Dangled Extra Incentives in Initial Bid to Lure Amazon HQ2
State officials offered Amazon.com $800 million more in incentives than was previously known to win its second-headquarters contest and were even prepared to pay part of some employees’ salaries if the tech company developed a campus in New York.
https://images.wsj.net/im-141038/social


[06-Jan-20 11:58 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/yzWZvlax2DM
This is fucked.
:caw: 🚒 🔥 🇦🇺 :sad:

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Australian Magpie Mimics Fire Engine Siren as NSW Bushfires Rage
An Australian magpie has been filmed mimicking the sound of emergency vehicle sirens as a bushfire crisis grips large parts of the country.

It comes as the premier of the Australian state of New South Wales has declared a week-long state of emergency in response to the escal...
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[07-Jan-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aaaand called it


[07-Jan-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1214310689487151104?s=20

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The top US general says a letter suggesting the US would withdraw troops from Iraq was released by mistake and poorly worded https://t.co/7bF5s2QZ8m
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[07-Jan-20 02:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Vasta_218/status/1213959517035270147

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BREAKING
Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin firing upon U.S. bases in Iraq with his cadre of Amazonian extremists
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[07-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-biden-not-same-party-094642

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AOC: 'In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the sa...
Ocasio-Cortez labeled House Democrats' centrist wing "the tea party of the left."
https://static.politico.com/fb/13/41eb99cd49218634cf71ba744530/20190913-aoc-gty-773.jpg


[07-Jan-20 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Being that I'm constantly inundated with AOC memes from a trump-sympathizing accquaintance of mine...can someone bring me up to speed on how Alexandria's actually faring amongst the party, her home district, etc


[07-Jan-20 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause honestly I can only take so much gaslighting


[07-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/nyregion/aoc-2020-opponents.html

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By Vivian Wang
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/nyregion/aoc-2020-opponents.html
Ocasio-Cortez Will Be Tough to Beat. Why Are 11 People Trying?
The first-term congresswoman has attracted a flood of Republican and Democratic challengers. Money is flowing in all directions.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/15/nyregion/00aoc1/00aoc1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[07-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
> The campaigns also highlight a broader strategy by the Republican Party: turning voters’ resentment toward Ms. Ocasio-Cortez into a conduit for the party’s other electoral goals. By encouraging attacks on Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, Republicans hope to inspire a trickle-down effect onto lower-profile, but much more vulnerable, Democrats.


[07-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
> “When she’s forced to explain what she stands for and what she has pushed the Democratic Party to embrace from a policy standpoint, that is an electoral boon for Republicans,” said Michael McAdams, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee.

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[07-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/trump-administration-blocks-iran-foreign-minister-zarif-addressing-un-security-council/

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/trump-administration-blocks-iran-foreign-minister-zarif-addressing-un-security-council/
Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing ...
Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had sought to give a speech condemning the U.S. assassination of Qassem Suleimani.
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[07-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
this is a problem with having a permanent security council


[07-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
the US can block anything critical of itself forever


[07-Jan-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  given republican's seeming political invincibility, I guess that means AOC is doomed?


[07-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
... what?


[07-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
what in that article gave you the impression that ocasio-cortez was in danger of losing her seat?


[07-Jan-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/04/cambridge-analytica-data-leak-global-election-manipulation

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Fresh Cambridge Analytica leak ‘shows global manipulation is out...
Company’s work in 68 countries laid bare with release of more than 100,000 documents
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[07-Jan-20 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oof, if only Steele weren't putting himself in the spotlight on this, that's an instakill for this story from Breitbart & Friends


[07-Jan-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but also yikes they really were trying for world domination weren't they


[07-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll keep trying, too.


[07-Jan-20 05:52 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so is the war draft thing gonna be real or is it just another meme ?


[07-Jan-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it is unlikely a draft will ever be needed


[07-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-to-start-collecting-dna-from-people-detained-at-border-1.4755259

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U.S. to start collecting DNA from people detained at border
The U.S. government has launched a pilot program to collect DNA from people taken into immigration custody at its borders with Mexico and Canada.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2991179.1568251399!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg


[07-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
sounds illegal


[07-Jan-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
is illegal


[07-Jan-20 06:01 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats what i was thinking very illegal


[07-Jan-20 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sounds like a pretty complicated way to say you just wanna suck some immigrant dick


[07-Jan-20 06:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oof


[07-Jan-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
mexican man have big pp


[07-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```so is the war draft thing gonna be real or is it just another meme ?```


[07-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
the draft is a meme to distract people from the actual question. How much the war would cost.


[07-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
because while US focuses to use as few soldiers as possible, and keep them as safe as possible, a full-scale war of this kind would be ***expensive***


[07-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
the US would need a draft in order to take down iran without nukes because iran would be backed by both russia and china


[07-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
iran apparently has tons of AA batteries from russia


[07-Jan-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
and iran's terrain is highly defensible against land invasion


[07-Jan-20 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
basically, invading iran would make vietnam look like a cakewalk


[07-Jan-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
you think orange smear will resist using the nuke button


[07-Jan-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
probably makes him cream himself to think about


[07-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well it changes one of the greatest status quo of our time and throws MAD preventative effect out the window.


[07-Jan-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
it turns out that the guy in charge is not very bright


[07-Jan-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
so whatever you say that would be the sane, logical thing to do


[07-Jan-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
trump will do the opposite


[07-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
> after this administration the trump card will no longer be slang for secret weapon. it will be slang for pulling the stupidest move possible in a situation


[07-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's... accurate.


[07-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then he pulled out his Trump Card by declaring his own army to be guilty of treason.


[07-Jan-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
can the US get couped already


[07-Jan-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and I mean not by the republicans


[07-Jan-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
the US is still on the lower end of the "will not revolt" region between unable to afford basic life necessities and being well-off enough to participate in politics and vote out the assholes destroying their country


[07-Jan-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
coups are virtually never performed by citizens


[07-Jan-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
mostly by militaries


[07-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think the US military will perform a coup unless trump starts ordering them to attack US citizens


[07-Jan-20 07:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/XglDJq1.jpg

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Too expensive.
https://i.imgur.com/XglDJq1.jpg


[07-Jan-20 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More like


[07-Jan-20 07:16 AM] Opponent#3498
well it's certainly isn't free. And the rich aren't paying up any time soon, so others would have to. A very easy train of thought.


[07-Jan-20 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"idk can we have a gay guy or a woman say it is expensive"


[07-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
is it possible to look up the total state/local tax revenue?


[07-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
I want to add it up with the federal tax revenue and figure out how much people pay total in taxes vs the US GDP


[07-Jan-20 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like important information that would be easily findable, but I can't seem to find it


[07-Jan-20 10:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The draft question is a distraction,though i;m not entirely unconvinced the GOP wouldn't re-instate the draft for control and power purposes instead of necessity


[07-Jan-20 10:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Under trump and a council of war hawks, the draft has been a large dangling question for probably 2 years now.  And right now i wouldn't be surprised if they used it as an election threat or tool to somehow give them an edge.


[07-Jan-20 11:03 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/nov/10/how-europes-cities-stole-continents-wealth

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How the megacities of Europe stole a continent’s wealth
While hi-tech cosmopolitan centres like Milan flourish financially and culturally, former industrial towns continue to decline
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[07-Jan-20 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
even mentioning offhandedly bringing back the draft would be a horrible blow to trump's re-election chances, even conservatives have a <30% support for reinstating the draft (or had it, at least, maybe trump supporting it would make them support it too)


[07-Jan-20 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, but they could accuse democrats of it and say that if they were re-elected they would prevent such a move


[07-Jan-20 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
trump supporters would send their children and grandchildren to their deaths gladly and call leftists weak, cowardly snowflakes if trump told them to


[07-Jan-20 11:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also true...


[07-Jan-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
hell, they already do the latter


[07-Jan-20 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually most of them would do it anyway out of sheer "patriotism"


[07-Jan-20 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those without children would cheer the fact that them youngins are being taught a "lesson in reality"


[07-Jan-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've already seen a few rumblings of boomers being ok with a draft because it would turn millennials and gen Z into "real men"


[07-Jan-20 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.li/Qh5MM


[07-Jan-20 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[07-Jan-20 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-had-menu-for-iran-strike-but-chose-soleimani-2020-1

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Trump was given a 'menu' of options for the Iran strike that inclu...
The New York Times reported that Pentagon officials offered Trump options for dealing with tensions in Iran. Targeting Soleimani was the most extreme.
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[07-Jan-20 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
> The other options included striking Iranian ships, missile facilities, or Iranian-backed militia groups in Iraq, The Times said.


[07-Jan-20 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
> Trump initially elected to strike the militia groups. On December 29, the US military struck three locations in Iraq and two in Syria controlled by an Iranian-backed militia, The Times also reported.
> 
> But after protesters supporting the militia stormed the US Embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday, Trump went for what The Times said was the "most extreme" option of targeting Soleimani. The Times noted that Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama had decided against targeting Soleimani because it was "too provocative."


[07-Jan-20 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
so basically, it seems like they gave him a list of actions to take, with assassinating soleimani as an extreme one to make the others look better


[07-Jan-20 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
trump chose the most extreme action


[07-Jan-20 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not sure what they were expecting


[07-Jan-20 12:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The man plasters everything he touches with his name and/or gold foil and is an absolute moron that campaigned on committing war crimes


[07-Jan-20 12:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His ego demands the splashiest thing possible and he doesn't have any sort of moral compass or rational mind


[07-Jan-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really need to stop presenting him with insane ideas


[07-Jan-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you would think after 3 years, they;d have learned how to navigate around his insanity by now but i guess the constant rotating door of staff prevents that form happening


[07-Jan-20 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta remember the massive churn Trump's staff has


[07-Jan-20 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are new people just don't understand how bad it really is until they've already fucked up


[07-Jan-20 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"It's just liberal propaganda, Trump knows what he's d- oh god, oh god no god please no..."


[07-Jan-20 12:46 PM] ononim#8141
Kek


[07-Jan-20 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing trump he also treats the guests of mara lago as staff themselves and asks for their ideas as well


[07-Jan-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, they're paying for the privilege of being near him, their opinions probably matter more than all these "experts"


[07-Jan-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-congress-mcconnell/mcconnell-urges-lawmakers-to-wait-for-facts-on-soleimani-killing-idUSKBN1Z521V

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McConnell urges lawmakers to wait for facts on Soleimani killing
U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Monday U.S. lawmakers should...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200106&t=2&i=1473042275&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG051KJ


[07-Jan-20 01:03 PM] Midknight#9798
haha please, mitch don't care 'bout no "facts"


[07-Jan-20 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
more like he might be losing control of key republican votes who would allow for witnesses in the impeachment trial and is trying to convince them not to bail


[07-Jan-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ugh


[07-Jan-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sanchez made prime minister by 2 vote difference


[07-Jan-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Another weak government, 4 more years of pretty much nothing happening


[07-Jan-20 02:58 PM] Pretty#9306
167 vs 165 votes, super close


[07-Jan-20 03:02 PM] Pretty#9306
If they subordinate enough to the peripheral nationalist parties they could make it work, if they give them some privileges and say a few dumb statements about how unique and cool separatism is then they can approve the laws


[07-Jan-20 03:31 PM] Opponent#3498
whos elections are those?


[07-Jan-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
spain


[07-Jan-20 03:33 PM] Pretty#9306
They're not elections, Spain has a parliamentary system so the Congress chooses the prime minister


[07-Jan-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
right, well, that still answers my question.


[07-Jan-20 03:34 PM] Crow#5457
is there a specific term for when it's a parliament electing a prime minister vs a direct vote?


[07-Jan-20 03:34 PM] Crow#5457
because afaik, it's still an election


[07-Jan-20 03:40 PM] Pretty#9306
It's a parliamentary system if the parliament chooses the prime minister, it's a presidential system if the people vote for the prime minister directly


[07-Jan-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, but either way it's still an election that chooses them both


[07-Jan-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
just the voting pool is much more limited


[07-Jan-20 03:44 PM] Pretty#9306
It's a voting but I'm not sure you can call it election if the citizens are not actually voting, they already voted the parliament and now the parliament has to agree to who is going to be the next prime minister


[07-Jan-20 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/1214302298568040448

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[07-Jan-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jan-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow
> mentioning offhandedly bringing back the draft would be a horrible blow to trump's re-election chances


[07-Jan-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
so that means he'll do it


[07-Jan-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
again, trump card


[07-Jan-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-has-13-revenge-scenarios-would-be-nightmare-for-us-2020-1

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Iran has 13 'revenge scenarios' it says would be a 'historic night...
Iran has vowed to enact "severe revenge" over Soleimani's killing, and both countries have traded threats in the days since.
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[07-Jan-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-joe-biden-would-not-be-in-the-same-party-2020-1

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez defends saying that 'in any other country...
"In another country, I'd be in a Labor Party like Jacinda Ardern," Rep. Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez said, defending her statement about Joe Biden.
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[07-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
SHA1 is chosen-prefixed https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/pgp-keys-software-security-and-much-more-threatened-by-new-sha1-exploit/

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PGP keys, software security, and much more threatened by new SHA1 ...
Behold: the world's first known chosen-prefix collision of widely used hash function.
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[07-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
nation states have probably already exploited this


[07-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
but basically any security system that has sha1 as a security link is potentially compromised


[07-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
that includes git


[07-Jan-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-officials-defend-targeting-iran-cultural-sites-war-crime-2020-1

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Trump officials are bending over backward to say he didn't threate...
President Donald Trump's advisers have bent over backward to argue he didn't threaten to commit a war crime, despite his statements to the contrary.
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[07-Jan-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climate-nepa-idUSKBN1Z50WW

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https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200106&t=2&i=1473045120&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG050NO


[07-Jan-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
fucking christ man

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[07-Jan-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is the resolve of people who feel attacked by Greta Thurnberg


[07-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess america is the next country to burn


[07-Jan-20 06:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
comically evil


[07-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck i wouldntr be surprised if trump starts the fire just to prove the liberamels wrong


[07-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"See i lit this forest on fire myself and nothing bad is happening"


[07-Jan-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"In fact i just created 200 new jobs for fire fighters. I'm a hero"


[07-Jan-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*insert fire fighting budget cut here*


[07-Jan-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Can we put out a fire with a nuke?"


[07-Jan-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again that was last years trump, this years trump might just launch the nuke anyway to see what happens withouit ever actually asking first


[07-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/flexible-work-finlands-pm-sanna-marin-wants-citizens-on-a-four-day-workweek.html

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Finland's new 34-year-old prime minister wants her citizens on a f...
Finland's Sanna Marin calls the condensed schedule "the next step for us in working life."
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[07-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
breitbart/fox news headline: "Millennial Snowflake Wants to Put Finnish Corporations Out of Business"


[07-Jan-20 06:50 PM] ononim#8141
Wish Mannerheim and Stallin would had met in 1917 and killed each other tbh

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[07-Jan-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/475998-germans-think-trump-is-more-dangerous-to-world-peace-than-kim

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Germans think Trump is more dangerous to world peace than Kim Jong...
A new YouGov survey found Germans consider President Trump more dangerous to world peace than North Korean Chairman Kim Jong Un or Russian President Vladimir Putin,
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[07-Jan-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
this survey was from BEFORE trump assassinated soleimani


[07-Jan-20 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
if the same survey was conducted again, it would probably jumped 10% for trump


[07-Jan-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37895601

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German's US election post goes viral
The man who compared the Donald Trump's presidential campaign to Hitler's in the 1930s has said he is glad to have started to "one of the more civilised discussions" on the US presidential debate.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/11E7D/production/_92314337_franklin1.jpg


[07-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/11E7D/production/_92314337_franklin1.jpg

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[07-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
from before the election in 2016


[07-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iranian-foreign-minister-fumes-over-reported-visa-denial-for-un-meetings-in-new-york

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Iranian foreign minister fumes over reported visa denial for UN me...
Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif fumed Tuesday over the reported U.S. decision to deny him a visa to address the United Nations in New York later this week, amid escalating tensions between the two countries after the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani.
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[07-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda), I don't understand why ocasio-cortez has to defend her statement that she and biden would be in different parties if they were in any other country, she's right


[07-Jan-20 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, see this https://twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/1214302298568040448

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[07-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, apparently reagan did the same thing to yasser arafat


[07-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
so the UN went to geneva to hear him speak instead


[07-Jan-20 07:10 PM] jlun2#8758
is there a law somewhere that conservatives must hate the environment?


[07-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's neoliberals who want to destroy the environment, not conservatives specifically


[07-Jan-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives want to destroy it too


[07-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't used to


[07-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
it was nixon who founded the EPA


[07-Jan-20 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
> President Richard Nixon proposed the establishment of EPA on July 9, 1970 and it began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order. The order establishing the EPA was ratified by committee hearings in the House and Senate.


[07-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-joe-biden-would-not-be-in-the-same-party-2020-1>
> She also referred to moderate Democrats as "the tea party of the left" and said criticism of the Democratic Party was necessary and valid.
> 
> "We're not allowed to talk about anything wrong the Democratic Party does," she added. "I think I have created more room for dissent, and we're learning to stretch our wings a little bit on the left."


[07-Jan-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/1/9/16860994/life-expectancy-us-income-inequality

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What the dip in US life expectancy is really about: inequality
While poor Americans are dying earlier, the rich are enjoying unprecedented longevity.
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[07-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
2 years old, but still relevant


[07-Jan-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://fair.org/home/the-return-of-the-inexplicable-republican-best-friend/

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The Return of the Inexplicable Republican Best Friend
Why, one is compelled to ask, do longtime, diehard conservatives care so much about what’s in the Democratic Party’s best interests?
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[07-Jan-20 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
so yeah, once again. No matter what the political views, those with brains are united in their hatred for neoliberal.


[07-Jan-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neoliberals are a plague


[07-Jan-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main cause for this "dont go too left" shit is that neoliberals and their corporate investors are trying to reign in an audience that is leaving thme en masse


[07-Jan-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Republican lawyer Chris Truax, writing in USA Today (12/31/18), at least had the self-awareness to recognize that “progressives often get annoyed when well-meaning conservatives offer them political advice.” So instead, he told Democrats, “I am speaking to you as one American to another about what our country needs.” And what the United States needs, it turns out, is to not have a progressive political agenda succeed, because that would only create a “permanent political canker sore.”*


[07-Jan-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be a pain in the ass for republicans and the mini bidens to reverse basically


[07-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/06/democrats-post-super-tuesday-scramble-093743

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The very real scenario of a protracted, ‘bizarro world’ Democr...
The dynamics have changed so much that states voting after Super Tuesday are suddenly taking on new prominence.
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[07-Jan-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, I feel like the nomination being determined on a single day seems kind of dumb tbh, it just sounds like old people complaining about how something is different from what they're used to and how they don't like it


[07-Jan-20 08:18 PM] Midknight#9798
that's what a lot of things sound like.

...because that's what a lot of things *are*


[07-Jan-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's pretty much why half the democratic candidates are running to begin with


[07-Jan-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well *were* running. a lot of those candidates get tossed out because joe biden, buttgeig, and bloomberg about cover those positions well enough


[07-Jan-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
super delegates, super pacs, and other such gimmicks were created for that reason as well


[07-Jan-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.270towin.com/content/superdelegate-rule-changes-for-the-2020-democratic-nomination apparently the super delegates system was overhauled after hillary bought thme all out last election

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Superdelegate Rule Changes for the 2020 Democratic Nomination
The party hopes to avoid a repeat of 2016 controversy where many of these unpledged delegates gave early support to Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders
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[07-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/business/borden-dairy-bankruptcy/index.html

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One of America's oldest and largest milk producers files for bankr...
Borden Dairy Co., one of America's oldest and largest dairy companies, on Monday became the second major milk producer to file for bankruptcy in the last two months.
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[07-Jan-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4b1b786420b4468dbe5da3b334e037db

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McConnell: GOP will start impeachment trial, delay witnesses
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday he has secured the Republican votes needed to start President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial  and postpone a decision on...
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[07-Jan-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ab6e76a8db1952f8812f1f3c380d669a

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Warren's new bankruptcy plan may spark a clash with Biden
WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Elizabeth Warren is promising to remake the nation’s consumer bankruptcy system if elected president, returning to her political roots while also potentially picking a fight...
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[07-Jan-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
watch her go back on it in a month


[07-Jan-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Joker lives in a society https://youtu.be/G56VgsLfKY4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G56VgsLfKY4
Not even the Joker will take on the IRS.
I lol'd
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[07-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that tax forms hav a field for unspecified income, that you must fill for illegal income.


[07-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing you to legally pay your taxes on your illegal income, without being an admittance that it's illegal.


[07-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
did they have that when they nailed al capone?


[07-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trial without documents or witnesses


[07-Jan-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141

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[07-Jan-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/SajadJiyad/status/1214601411838795776

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https://twitter.com/SajadJiyad/status/1214601411838795776
From 11:45 to 14:10 the PM says that the letter notifying of the US withdrawal was received formally (twice after the translation was edited) and it’s considered official notice and the government will work on that basis and not media comments 
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[07-Jan-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/11/evo-morales-resigns-president-bolivia/

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Why Is Evo Morales Suddenly No Longer President of Bolivia?
The ousted leader is calling it a “coup,” but he entered dangerous legal territory in pushing for an unprecedented fourth term.
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[07-Jan-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
apparently morales ran for a fourth term despite it being unconstitutional


[07-Jan-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
(the two-term limit was introduced when he was president in his first term, so his second and third terms are counted as his first and second)


[07-Jan-20 11:47 PM] illumnious#7938
i want to die https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1214673468995899393?s=20

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[08-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this is really outside the current topics but like


[08-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moral thing to do is to finish what the fire started


[08-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then plant a forest where Notre Dame stood.


[08-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mildly related to https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/535580879385395213/664228332338151475/unknown.png

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[08-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was found to be illegal in my state.


[08-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to "develop" land you buy from the forest service


[08-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
by which they mean "render uninhabitable to all manner of wildlife" pretty much.


[08-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Midknight#9798
eh, "develop" it into a nature park with hiking trails, charge a nominal admission fee (but forget to hire a guy to stand by the entrance with a coin bucket) and call it good


[08-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Midknight#9798
anyone that gets eaten by bears on the property didn't pay admission, so they were trespassing, so squash liability, easy peasy pack of treesy

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[08-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tap a few trees for maple syrup and call it a day


[08-Jan-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
call it a mass tree farm thne enver sell anything


[08-Jan-20 12:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/10-rockets-hit-airbase-in-iraq-where-united-states-troops-are-based-report

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10 rockets hit airbase in Iraq where United States troops are base...
Ten rockets hit an airbase where U.S. soldiers are based in Iraq, CNN reported Tuesday afternoon. According to CNN producer, Vaughn Sterling said Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, IRGC, took responsibility. Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, IRGC, says “i...
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[08-Jan-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-Jan-20 01:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Send our pizza boys to Iran


[08-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
as memey as that response is, that's literally what stops terrorist in the middle east from having the willpower to fight the US


[08-Jan-20 01:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/irgc-says-it-fired-missiles-at-us-base-soleimani-killing-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Iran fires more than a dozen ballistic missiles at US forces in Ir...
"The President has been briefed and is monitoring the situation closely and consulting with his national security team," the White House said in a statement.
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[08-Jan-20 01:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/i-hate-it-gop-senator-says-iran-launching-missiles-against-trumps-failed-foreign-policy-was-entirely-predictable

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President Donald Trump is relying upon the support of Republican senators as he prepares to be tried for impeachment, but one Republican senator went on MSNBC to slam the president’s foreign policy after Iran reportedly fired ballistic missiles at multiple military bases ho...
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[08-Jan-20 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
Looks like it IS Habbening, boys and girls


[08-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1214711469528375296

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BREAKING: #Iran Air Force has taken off from its bases. (Mehr News Agency)

This is now Missiles and Air. https://t.co/Jr7xSfrALP
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[08-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[08-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rumors of 80 Americans dead


[08-Jan-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/30-us-soldiers-killed-in-iraq-ballistic-missile-attacks-iran-state-media/?utm_source=push_notifications

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30 US soldiers killed in Iraq ballistic missile attacks: Iran stat...
The Iranian government “caught America off guard” with ballistic missile attacks at military bases in Iraq that house US troops — and Iranian state media are claiming to have killed 30 American service members, according to the Tehran bureau chief for NBC News. Ali Arou...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Qasem_Soleimani_in_Imam_Khomeini_Hossainiah01.jpg


[08-Jan-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
F


[08-Jan-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.calvertjournal.com/articles/show/9371/soviet-time-capsules-comrades-1967-2017-russian-revolution-centenery

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The centenary year of the Russian Revolution has seen the unearthing of time capsules across the former USSR, offering poignant — and sometimes bleakly…
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[08-Jan-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:depressed: reacts only


[08-Jan-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
WW3 time bois


[08-Jan-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
time to claim I have gender dysphoria so I don't get drafted


[08-Jan-20 02:50 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/07/war-impeachment-trump-tells-america-its-none-your-business/


[08-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
> In these first days of 2020, Americans grapple simultaneously with two of the most consequential issues any state can face: a possible war and the potential removal of the head of government.
> 
> Naturally, the public turns to the president and his administration with questions about these two grave matters. And the answer to both comes back loud and clear: None of your business.
> 
> Reporters pressed top officials Tuesday for an explanation of the “imminent” threat that President Trump claimed in ordering the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani, which sent the region into chaos and the United States to the cusp of war. One official after another replied with a variation of the same response: We won’t tell you.


[08-Jan-20 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
>“You are the lucky generation: wars are just history”


[08-Jan-20 02:53 AM] ononim#8141

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[08-Jan-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't worry, he'll blab it on twitter in 2 hours

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[08-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/07/794362037/tangled-in-campaign-finance-scandal-gop-rep-duncan-hunter-to-resign-next-week

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Tangled In Campaign Finance Scandal, GOP Rep. Duncan Hunter To Res...
Hunter pleaded guilty last month to misusing campaign funds. He and his wife were accused of having used over $250,000 in campaign funds for their own personal use.
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[08-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
something different


[08-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
another one bites the dust


[08-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-usa-fort-bragg/were-going-to-war-bro-fort-braggs-82nd-airborne-deploys-to-the-middle-east-idUSKBN1Z616W

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'We're going to war, bro': Fort Bragg's 82nd Airborne deploys to t...
For many of the soldiers, it would be their first mission. They packed up ammuni...
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[08-Jan-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1214739853025394693?s=20

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All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far! I will be making a statement tomorrow m...
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[08-Jan-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"All is well"


[08-Jan-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok?


[08-Jan-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
see i told you he woudl tweet it


[08-Jan-20 04:04 AM] illumnious#7938
shithead


[08-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5acWopq

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When a dystopia with hungry children is painted as a feel good story.
https://i.imgur.com/NA2KdEAh.jpg


[08-Jan-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate that about america :depressed:


[08-Jan-20 04:06 AM] illumnious#7938
welcome to America


[08-Jan-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was already here :depressed:


[08-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/VtWtwe2

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Those that support war should be the first to enlist.
https://i.imgur.com/kCwosBmh.jpg


[08-Jan-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-irs-tried-to-crack-down-on-rich-people-using-an-abusive-tax-deduction-it-hasnt-gone-so-well/amp


[08-Jan-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Jan-20 04:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/mad1loly/status/1214736073093451782?s=20

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This video is so important right now #IranvsUSA https://t.co/hKBnATrX4f
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[08-Jan-20 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/RobertDeNiroUS/status/1214735458728579072?s=20

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"A war with Iran is madness, and it is strategically and morally a disaster in the making. And don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise." https://t.co/BipKHcTSJj  #WWIIl #IranvsUSA #IranAttacks https://t.co/DEsX0y07tj
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[08-Jan-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it also undermines US 'allies`' position. Ukraine, for example.


[08-Jan-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
we're getting relative peanuts, but if we stop getting them and the political support dries up, it will be unfortunate.


[08-Jan-20 04:36 AM] ononim#8141
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[08-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Uhhh.. that's explicit.


[08-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one way to get votes.


[08-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, ||spoilering is a thing ||


[08-Jan-20 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
usually he does spoiler explicit things. This is doesn't really count as far as this channel goes imo, but mods would know better


[08-Jan-20 04:39 AM] ononim#8141
damn LIBTARDS trying to CENSOR my FREDOM OF PEACH


[08-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, why is it a politics thing?


[08-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
missing context here


[08-Jan-20 04:40 AM] ononim#8141
Vermin SUpreme is candidate for US president


[08-Jan-20 04:40 AM] ononim#8141
the only worthwhile candidate even


[08-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
and he's wearing that?


[08-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
ah


[08-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
right. I didn't see the url.


[08-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[08-Jan-20 04:42 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

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Vermin Supreme
Vermin Love Supreme (born c. 1961) is an American performance artist and activist who has run as a candidate in various local, state, and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush, and has said that...
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[08-Jan-20 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I've heard about him.


[08-Jan-20 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man remember that time the worlds' most well equipped militaries couldn't fucking defeat some goat herders in the mountains?


[08-Jan-20 04:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yemen feels like yesterday.


[08-Jan-20 04:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7863359/Ukrainian-passenger-plane-carrying-180-people-crashes-near-Tehran-local-media.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

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Ukrainian passenger plane carrying 180 people crashes near Tehran
A Ukrainian passenger plane carrying 180 passengers and crew crashed near Tehran Tuesday. The airliner, said to be a Boeing 737, went down near Tehran Imam Khomeini International.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/08/03/23132340-0-image-a-21_1578455076926.jpg


[08-Jan-20 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, the real story at the center of a Cyber-Psychosis war, where fake and real news now compete for turf over the same thing.


[08-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, lovely.


[08-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
so what, is this real or not?


[08-Jan-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's real


[08-Jan-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
But for this one brief moment the fake news sites are being truthful on it


[08-Jan-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
And are fighting one another


[08-Jan-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
As legit journalists try to elbow in too


[08-Jan-20 05:28 AM] illumnious#7938
it already started bitch https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/this-is-a-nightmare-fears-of-all-out-war-spike-as-iran-targets-us-troops

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‘This is a nightmare’: Fears of all-out war spike as Iran targ...
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran claimed responsibility for a missile attack on a U.S. airbase in Iraq Wednesday morning local time, confirming warnings that President Donald Trump’s decision to assassinate Gen. Qasem Soleimani would spark military retaliation ...
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[08-Jan-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
So you got fucking CNN reporters citing the fake ones


[08-Jan-20 05:29 AM] illumnious#7938
CNN?


[08-Jan-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/RealMattCouch/status/1214760555971563520

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BREAKING: Footage of Ukrainian Airlines Boeing 737 that crashed just outside Iranian Capital of Tehran with 180 Passengers on board. Plane was on Fire while coming down.. https://t.co/HTuTidH221
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[08-Jan-20 05:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-soleimani-tensions-intl-01-07-20/h_ec2a577fe833946485ca681a584d980a

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Iran threatens to attack Dubai and Haifa if country is bombed
At least 10 rockets hit al-Asad airbase in Iraq where US troops are housed in Iraq. Follow here for the latest news as tensions rise in the Middle East.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200107095053-10-soleimani-funeral-kerman-0107-super-tease.jpg


[08-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iran probably accidentally shot down the plane, but incredibly fucking suspicious that it is a Ukrainian one.


[08-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way, even now for Iran Airlines 655 if true.


[08-Jan-20 09:01 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:

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[08-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that sure is... coincidental


[08-Jan-20 10:27 AM] MrKat7214#7214
https://twitter.com/avancre_tn/status/1212966917893500928

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They can’t draft me for World War III if they don’t know I exist
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[08-Jan-20 11:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw

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General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five ...
Originally published in March 2007
General Wesley Clark:
Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some o...
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[08-Jan-20 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7b5a54663fef97c7be2b6cfdc814158b

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Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Increasingly alarmed that Bernie Sanders could become their party's presidential nominee, establishment-minded Democrats are warning primary voters that the self-described...
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[08-Jan-20 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-speedy-end-impeachment-amid-escalating-tensions/story?id=68096699

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Trump calls for speedy end to impeachment amid escalating tensions...
President Trump on Monday called for a speedy end to his impeachment trial amid escalating tension with Iran.
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[08-Jan-20 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh no guys, i started a war. Guess we can;t impeach me now..."


[08-Jan-20 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Jan-20 12:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/IntelTweet/status/1214726590858440710

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Iraqi government officials are reportedly contradicting claims by the U.S. government and insisting that no Iraqi civilians were killed or wounded in Iran's missile attack on Ain Assad Air Base.
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[08-Jan-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```"Oh no guys, i started a war. Guess we can;t impeach me now..."```


[08-Jan-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
well that sure is a suprise 😂


[08-Jan-20 12:50 PM] Opponent#3498
and the casualty thing, yeah. This song and dance is pure textbook stuff. 'We killed all of them' vs 'they didn't hurt us at all' (in a different server I've seen a link from 'Military times' saying preliminary no casualties). And the truth is entirery different, entirely irrelevant and maybe will be known only many years past.


[08-Jan-20 02:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
The funny thing about the Soleimani killing is that his death has created such national solidarity the forces that would have threatened to dismantle Iran or even just give them a hard time have United. Iranians have never been dumb and do know that their economic woes are because of the US, but their protests have turned from the Iranian government itself on a show of support. In southern Iran, Arab seperatists even stopped protesting and criticizing the government to rally against US brutality.


[08-Jan-20 02:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I believe I said it earlier that Soleimani's death will actually be a good thing for the country but may have been wrong over the circumstances. Even Iraq is turning on the US and embracing Iran, of at arm's length. And we're well on our way to alienating ourselves from our allies in the world stage.


[08-Jan-20 02:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
What a swell victory Trump has, for the Grand Ayatollah. ALLHU ACKBAR! Ali was the true Caliph!


[08-Jan-20 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
If this was an open war right now, Iran has control of the full field of battle.


[08-Jan-20 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If this was an open war we'd be getting a steady stream of cruise missile footage from boats too far away to be hit back


[08-Jan-20 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again we'd also be seeing migs and sus flying around said ships


[08-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Just so we're clear


[08-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump _is_ impeached


[08-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Whether that means anything, well.


[08-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Feeling ill so homed early to rest, will miss watching Trump fucking things even further Live


[08-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(he's due to make a speech soon)


[08-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Nb59EjtdY

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President Trump on Iran launching a missile attack (LIVE) | USA TODAY
Iran fired more than a dozen missiles at U.S. troops and coalition forces in Iraq on Tuesday, an apparent retaliation for a U.S. drone strike days earlier that killed one of Tehran's most powerful generals, Qasem Soleimani. 

RELATED: https://bit.ly/2T44lFK

Though the extent...
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[08-Jan-20 05:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Special Report: Trump makes statement on Iran missile attack https://www.nbcnews.com/video/special-report-trump-makes-statement-on-iran-missile-attack-76270149735

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Special Report: Trump makes statement on Iran missile attack
President Donald Trump delivers remarks on the growing tensions in the Middle East after Iran attacked U.S. military bases in Iraq as retaliation for killing General Qassem Soleimani.
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[08-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/su26vp4b96841.jpg

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[08-Jan-20 05:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Well that was weird


[08-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Opponent#3498
~~oh wow, your roles.~~


[08-Jan-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, this is what I'd imagine Sanders' (I imagine that's his stuff, right?) promotional materials to be.


[08-Jan-20 06:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon To make it known the US military ran drill on this and lost catastrophically to an Opfor modeled off of Iran and they got so pissy they started heavily scripting every military war game so the US can only win


[08-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk I've seen a conservative argument against that scenario that the navy was heavily restricted to begin with, by peacetime trade marine regulations, traffics and so on. In 'real lfe' scenario they'd be much further out and in general better positioned. It has merit, but to that I'd respond that, well, evidently that wasn't seen to be a problem before the start, due to overconfidence or lack of any restrictions that would truly matter.


[08-Jan-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-mcconnell/u-s-senates-mcconnell-wont-haggle-with-house-over-impeachment-trial-plan-idUSKBN1Z728C

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[08-Jan-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and by at the appropriate time, he means never


[08-Jan-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-legal-women/trump-administration-casts-doubt-on-womens-rights-amendment-push-idUSKBN1Z72IF

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The Trump administration on Wednesday poured cold water on a new effort to ratif...
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[08-Jan-20 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-deepfake-pelosi/pelosi-spokesman-dismisses-facebook-decision-to-remove-some-manipulated-videos-idUSKBN1Z61WD

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[08-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what happened to that guy who was running for a position in California just so he could spread deepfakes and the like


[08-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, that was his stated reason for running, not to get elected, but to litter the internet with them


[08-Jan-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably got banned from several websites


[08-Jan-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what party was he running under?


[08-Jan-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[08-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeSka35LhSM>


[08-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
"This action is turned off for content made for kids."


[08-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So uh, who is gonna tell Congress?


[08-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That YouTube is marking videos with people being chainsawed in half


[08-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
as child-directed?


[08-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are they even gonna notice in the midst of what Trump is doing?


[08-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man I didn't expect THIS video to become relevant anytime soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9gLmBgUTV4

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How heavy metal and Satan gave us this sticker
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[08-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine telling Al Gore where we'd end up.


[08-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, he's still alive I think


[08-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he can make another movie about how we all fukked up.


[08-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell him that his last name is very relevant.


[08-Jan-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
he is indeed still alive


[08-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[08-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-news-01-08-2020/index.html>


[08-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(graham, of course, is hanging on to trump's dick so tightly he's legally classified as condom)


[08-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Promised myself if I got a decent grade in a class where Warren wrote the textbook that I would vote for her


[08-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Got a B+


[08-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Midknight#9798
can you be legally classified as a condom when you leak that much?


[08-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I-it's not good enough r-right


[09-Jan-20 12:02 AM] soundtea#9032
Just tell yourself that you were going by asian parent standards


[09-Jan-20 12:02 AM] soundtea#9032
See, absolved of that instantly


[09-Jan-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he clung totrump's dick so hard he became a broken codom


[09-Jan-20 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.spendjeffbezosmoney.com/

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I tried to spend Jeff Bezos fortune
I tried to spend Jeff Bezos fortune


[09-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah easy


[09-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
just preserve the Amazon 10 years


[09-Jan-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i ended up buying 110 books after preserving the amazon, ending homelessness,and replacing flint;s water system


[09-Jan-20 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://ffwd.medium.com/all-of-youtube-not-just-the-algorithm-is-a-far-right-propaganda-machine-29b07b12430

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All of YouTube, Not Just the Algorithm, is a Far-Right Propaganda ...
YouTube’s celebrity culture and community dynamics play a major role in the amplification of far-right content
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[09-Jan-20 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
```users don’t always just stumble upon more and more extremist content — in fact, audiences often demand this kind of content from their preferred creators. If an already-radicalized audience asks for more radical content from a creator, and that audience is collectively paying the creator through their viewership, creators have an incentive to meet that need. Thus, the incentives of YouTube audiences and creators form a feedback loop that drives more and more extremist content.```


[09-Jan-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still have $2b left but it wont let me buy and pay off a normal sized house, only a LA mansion


[09-Jan-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes, the algorithm is especially malicious when it comes to that and severla other types of content


[09-Jan-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you watch one right wing blog video and suddenly you get inundated with them, the same goes for those weird childrens videos no one asked for or wanted and yet they some how exist because people ship spoderguy and the freeze girl


[09-Jan-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i watch one science video and now youtube wont stop giving me existentialism...


[09-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Watching a video on a fuckin' complex overly-technical stepchart, and the sidebar is just *full* of children's 'content'


[09-Jan-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those ments are weird as fuck


[09-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Algorithm is like "well the BGA for this song is full of bright colors so here's some KIDS STUFF HI FTC"


[09-Jan-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the algorithm didnt knwo what to do with this content for reccomendation so it just shat itself with childrens content


[09-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The Equal Rights for Women is doomed to fail under this administration. Trump doesn't even respect his own daughter what makes people think it is going to respect woman?


[09-Jan-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything is doomed under this administration, they unwittingly duped a metric ton of saps into voting for their rights and protections being stripped away


[09-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it simply with YouTube


[09-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
fascism likes videos


[09-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially when you can feel like you know the guy making the video


[09-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism likes to detach its ideas from people, make them rationalities we should all arrive at


[09-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatism likes to tie everything together to entrench itself, and if this goes far enuff with some personality, everything becomes the state being him, fascism etc.


[09-Jan-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They also thrive on appealing to your flight or fight response like people panicking about a wasp


[09-Jan-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you don't squash the wasp, it will come for you. It may just look like it;s flying harmlessly, but don;t be fooled. It wants to kill you!"


[09-Jan-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate that


[09-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When people freak out about wasps


[09-Jan-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[09-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a wasp, jesus christ


[09-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop acting it's got a glock


[09-Jan-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you dont go trying to kill it it will leave yout he fuck alone


[09-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been stung a few times, mind


[09-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So maybe that took away the fear and people that haven't believe it's worse than dying or something


[09-Jan-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;pve bee stung by a dozen bees


[09-Jan-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at once


[09-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its ironic that Trump accused Obama of trying to start a war with Iran and now that Trump has done it the idea seems fine to him


[09-Jan-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
never a wasp though


[09-Jan-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump accuses soemone and predicts they'll do an action. he'll usually do that action eventually


[09-Jan-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite frankly we should really be using his early tweets for predictive scales


[09-Jan-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe get some warnings out there to other governments with regards to them


[09-Jan-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hey guys, we found some accusations trump made against obama awhile back, we're tweeting you to warn you trump might try this shit soon..."


[09-Jan-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lgug7moc6j941.jpg

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[09-Jan-20 02:31 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The GOP doesn't care about Trump's tweets unless he really flies off the handle. Trump lets the GOP do what they want in return the GOP serve Trump. Its corruption.


[09-Jan-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, i meant us the american citizens


[09-Jan-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP wont do shit, they;ve been his living condoms for 3 years now


[09-Jan-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mnuchin-seeks-delay-of-proposed-disclosure-of-

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[09-Jan-20 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh wow, republicans being corrupt as fuck? How surprising!


[09-Jan-20 02:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its not a good idea to delay an investigation, its like a kid making excuses on why he forgot his homework


[09-Jan-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, that's the point. they want to wait till after trump is either re-elected or booted.  because it gives thme more power over the investigation


[09-Jan-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they delay it now and wait till the election season ends, thne they have time to dump evidence and classify a bunch of shit


[09-Jan-20 02:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard from the Eurasia group that the US tops the middle east in threats to Global stability because of how toxic Trump is to the foundation of the country. Even if Trump loses the reelection he could just say the system is rigged against him sowing the seeds that would destroy Americans faith in their government. And if he wins Democrats would claimed the system is rigged too. It just doesn't end well for the US ether way.


[09-Jan-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's what we're expecting, he wont give up his throne of lies easily, there;s going to be a fight


[09-Jan-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially because if he loses his throne, he's going to prison


[09-Jan-20 02:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I have been wondering what awaits Trump when his immunity wears off. The legal consequences of his corrupt presidency


[09-Jan-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well right now he has at least 5 non political criminal investigations into his past going by several states


[09-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has several nvestigations going o into his presidency


[09-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he has committed embezzlement fraud up the anus the entire time he;s been president


[09-Jan-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a reason he declined taking the presidential salary. He can just funnel mass amounts of tax payer money into his golf resorts everytime he and his staff stay at one of his resorts


[09-Jan-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of this is why he made barr the head of the justice department


[09-Jan-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr is who republicans call when corruptio gets out of hand and thye need soemone to block every obstacle coming at them


[09-Jan-20 03:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
We really are turning into a s-hole country


[09-Jan-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we've been a shit hole since reagan! :pudding:


[09-Jan-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing that;s kept us in power is the sheer size of our country and military!


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Can someone elxplain to me why Republicans have such a hard on for Regan


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He owned the libs


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel Trump will never lose immunity


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
He will die first


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also knew when to completely go against Republican ideology


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preferably by gunfire


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(drunk driving)


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
And then all the horrible shit will come out


[09-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when race was involved (armed blakk guys in cali)


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan had a lot of charisma


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and used it to denounce socialized medicine


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
while touting the benefits of trikkle-down economics


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and making sure to reduce teen deaths while raising minority ones


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was a corporate wet dream


[09-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was everything conservatives could ask for


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also had some genuine good ideas


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
like making tax law not care about your money being in capital gains


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
of course, that was swiftly undone later


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, his idea was like


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
you lower taxes on the rich


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you make it so there aren't any loopholes


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the rich are all paying the same low taxes


[09-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
without any trikkery


[09-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is, trikkery is strong, and it just rebounds after you remove it.


[09-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the low taxes stukk


[09-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and capital gains became again a major loophole


[09-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much Reagan was just naive enuff to believe he was doing good for the country overall.


[09-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, he also liked brinksmanship


[09-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
where you go as close to war as you can to get concessions


[09-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which really wasn't necessary cause Gorbachev would've reworked Russia anyways


[09-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan just kinda made sure Russia crashed harder


[09-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Republican need to let the dream die. I think a good hand of of republicans don't even know what being a conservative means


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Conservatism stayed the same


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Republicans changed


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Conservatism is fundamentally about being an asshole


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan's policies of strict laws and low taxes on the rich with minimal welfare meant being poor was basically a crime.


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
While being rich meant you got heaped money on you.


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Reagan opened up trade relations with China iirc


[09-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon started that


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Which in retrospect turned out to not be a good idea


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan furthered it while ignoring their abuses.


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic Republican move


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
liberals tell you to stop being isolationist


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you go to a horrid dictatorship and say we want to buy your slave labor made products


[09-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they kill anyone who asks for democracy and well


[09-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're the guy who made sure people couldn't carry guns to defend themselves from racist cops so you're all for that.


[09-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let the money flow etc.


[09-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals get happy for a while you're doing free trade


[09-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are just loving supporting an oppessor


[09-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Reagen was a fan of Gold Water so kind of explains something


[09-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time the liberals figure out what the real plan is, it's too late


[09-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno why you overthink this


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can flee the Republican party, but they're screwed powerwise


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reagan was tall, white, had a nice smile, charismatic


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's all you need to woo conservatives over


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's important to note he also had policies that liberals often supported


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
because on the surface they sounded great


[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/jadafromnola/status/1214591489260564482

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[09-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He used the federal gov't to override state drinking laws to stop teen drinking


[09-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He furthered free trade


[09-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tulsi Gabbard got monetary support from a far-right Hindu paramilitary group.


[09-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He reduced tax loopholes


[09-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of that helped contribute to Reagan's success and make moderates fall in love with him.


[09-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's only now that we're losing inertia and seeing Reagan's America catch fire.


[09-Jan-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both figuratively and literally


[09-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SqwNvLVhbI

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RSS Telangana Vijaya Sankalp Shibir 2019, Bhagyanagar
Swayamsevaks padsanchalan towards Sarvajanik Utsva held at Saroornagar stadium, Hyderabad on 25-December.
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[09-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Purely peaceful group, don't worry they are an arm of the party


[09-Jan-20 03:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
imagine living in a country that pays for youtube poop audio.https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003rkq

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BBC Radio 4 - The Skewer
Late-night thought-provoking comedy from Jon Holmes.
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[09-Jan-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, reagan set us on a slow burn and we'repaying for it now


[09-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is Tulsi such a shitty person to begin with?


[09-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What happened?


[09-Jan-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't know much about tulsi gabbard to begin with


[09-Jan-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but she's hindu, which while that shouldnt be a red flag in itself likely means she stands with india's hindu nationalist party


[09-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[09-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So she inherited this shit.


[09-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
India's hindu nationalist party that had a former member _who killed Gandhi_


[09-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, her household had a ton of diversity


[09-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and I guess somewhere in that she went "huh, what's common to most countries?"


[09-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Authoritarianism, of course


[09-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've said this before and will say it again


[09-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She will lose the nomination but still shrug off a Green Party offer


[09-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And if Trump wins she'll switch parties and try to be communications director or something.


[09-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump struck gold when he ran as a republican because he knew they were the weakest party.


[09-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreso they're crazy and love personality


[09-Jan-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, he even said that in a past interview in the 80's


[09-Jan-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is he ever ran for president, he;d go republican because they;re easier to manipulate through personality and emotion


[09-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
True, he just used simple but catch all phases like "Drain the Swamp, Lock her up and Build The Wall" he never really had a formal plan going in as President


[09-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, fascism is easier.


[09-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much easier to be Hitler than Gandhi


[09-Jan-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heck he didnt evne knwo what the swamp was, his polling staff jsut told him it was a popular sentiment


[09-Jan-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jan-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's applying the phrase to any democrats criticizing him because his new campaigns trategy is to just embrace the villainy


[09-Jan-20 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*david attenborough voice*: the majestic santa clause is seen grazing on santa food. This mysterious food is still unknown to most of humanity, but we finally found the source of it."


[09-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah he was still kicking the horse with Hillary's emails on its flank even though it died three years ago.


[09-Jan-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but his base eats that shit up even if hillary doesnt run again


[09-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/jadafromnola/status/1214088610712051712

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https://twitter.com/jadafromnola/status/1214088610712051712
CONTEXT: #India ruling party claims responsibility for both Modi and  #Gabbard’s 2014 elections. 
But any criticism must be religious bigotry, right? https://t.co/VbIXA68BeU
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[09-Jan-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/delaware-republican-refuses-to-resign-after-claiming-trumps-impeachment-was-orchestrated-by-the-jews/

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On Tuesday, according to the Hockessin Community News, it became clear that the vice chairwoman of the Republican Party of Sussex County, Delaware, was not going to step down following a virulent screed on Facebook that members of her own party denounced as anti-Semitic. “W...
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[09-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FAKE NEWS, BERNIE SANDERS IS THE REAL ANTI-SEMITE


[09-Jan-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-judge-invites-scammed-students-to-propose-additional-punishments-for-betsy-devos/

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Federal Judge Invites Scammed Students to Propose Additional Punis...
The courts have had it up to here with Betsy DeVos and her agency’s repeat—and apparently ongoing—violation of court orders that require her to stop milking scammed college students for student loan repayments.
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[09-Jan-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/opinion/mitch-mcconnell-trump.html

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Opinion | President Mitch McConnell
He’s in charge of everything but shooting at Iran.
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[09-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
McConnel needs to think about this. "Is this really how he wants to be remembered?"


[09-Jan-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
sorry for the shitpost but it had to be said https://twitter.com/RNDYGFFE/status/1215106389145681920

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This will probably be the most controversial thing I'll ever tweet, but a lot of immigrants coming into Ellis Island in the 1880's probably thought the statue of liberty was hot. They'd never seen a 150ft tall woman before. It probably blew their minds.
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[09-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
She is a beauty


[09-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Ellis Island Coomer


[09-Jan-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know the shitty thing about my town having the second largest statue in North America?


[09-Jan-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's way up on a mountainside and dwarfed by it, so you can't fap to the Virgin Mary.


[09-Jan-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not without binoculars, anyways.


[09-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Virgin Mary


[09-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Chad Joseph


[09-Jan-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my favorite moments of studying history was reading about inquisitors during the Spanish Inquisition who _constantly_ had to admonish people "pls don't make jokes about the Virgin Mary's virginity" and then say they can go


[09-Jan-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had Jews and Muslims to hunt down after all.


[09-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Actually, no


[09-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They didn't hunt down jews and muslims, they hunted down false converts


[09-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's what I meant


[09-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't cheat the IRS


[09-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To them, same thing.


[09-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even the Joker did.


[09-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though I think the Joker from Joker 2019 would.


[09-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still need to watch that


[09-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe this weekend


[09-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Been in too shitty a mood since it got released to want to watch a movie that'd just make me depressed


[09-Jan-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Joker from Joker 2019 would walk into the IRS and murder it's bureaucracy, because they laffed at him.


[09-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What's Trump's problem with Obama?


[09-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That Obama is not him and disagreed with him and accomplished things.


[09-Jan-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Also that he's black


[09-Jan-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
As evidenced by the birther thing


[09-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, I was reading a post on Rawnews and a clip on CNN talking about how Trump went out of his way to bash Obama during his address on the Iran missile strikes.


[09-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama is also as liked as Reagan for liberals


[09-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Obama to Trump is the enemy's hero


[09-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the enemy can't be allowed to hav a hero etc.


[09-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Is Trump riding the coattails of Obama's economy? As much as Trump boasts about the economy his main campaign selling point since the wall is just a meme now, Trump wouldn't have an economy if it wasn't for Obama doing what he did to repair it


[09-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
why the hell hasn't betsy devos been arrested yet?


[09-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
she's held off on following multiple court orders for months


[09-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
this is well beyond past the time that police should be sent to her house with a warrant and arrest her


[09-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What is law to a lawless administration?


[09-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to arrest a member of the president's cabinet I guess


[09-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
or at least, hard to indict them for criminal stuff


[09-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What's the point when there is a chance Trump could pardon them?


[09-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's a big question.


[09-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
obama is liked by liberals? I've seen plenty of criticism for how he expanded the surveillance state and expanded on drone warfare for unilateral strikes


[09-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
When Trump pardoned that Navy Seal and restored his rank, it sent a massage to everyone


[09-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've seen anyone worshipping obama like I've seen conservatives worship reagan


[09-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama's the only president in recent memory liberals don't hate


[09-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if nothing changes, moderates will put him right below Reagan


[09-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard Trump is more conservative than Reagan


[09-Jan-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[09-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Then I'm fine if the Republicans never when a majority for years to come


[09-Jan-20 06:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon  I highly doubt that, but let's hope I'm wrong.


[09-Jan-20 06:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It is fine to doubt, I hope I'm wrong too but the way the GOP has been acting fills me with worry


[09-Jan-20 06:19 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon I'm more worried about millenials becoming the same generation they claim to hate


[09-Jan-20 06:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What makes you say that?


[09-Jan-20 06:20 AM] jlun2#8758
||internet purge of porn||
conservatives being voted in droves despite "demographic changes will make them decline"
the fact it's easy to say "I'll be different than my parents" but in reality, you'd probably make a similar mistake as them. For instance, easy to make fun of parents being sex negative, but then once you get a kid you go all out "think of the children" shit


[09-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
True I do feel protective of my Nephew


[09-Jan-20 06:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon  I don't even had a kid, just raising my sister's 2 pet turtles while she's at uni, and I feel protective as hell as if they're my babies


[09-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
We do protect the things we hold dear. Though I wish Republicans didn't cling so stubbornly to the past.


[09-Jan-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
the internet is being purged of porn BY boomers because of the puritanism that pervades the US


[09-Jan-20 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing with Twitter limiting replies


[09-Jan-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All it is going to do is drive people to other places to badmouth people.


[09-Jan-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Trump set every single tweet to the "statement" setting, which makes it so no one can reply to anything


[09-Jan-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
he wouldn't do that, he needs to see his base worshipping him


[09-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It would really defeat the purpose.


[09-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/politics/us-army-fake-text-messages-military-draft-trnd/index.html

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US Army warns about fake text messages about military draft
The US Army is warning Americans about a wave of "fraudulent text messages" falsely telling Americans they have been drafted into military service.
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[09-Jan-20 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in millenials case of "think of the children" it;s more like "we should improve sex ed and the economy ad the environment and healthcare so our children aren't fucking up their lives while also being on fire and underwater at the same time while also being in horrifying medical debt for burn treatments"


[09-Jan-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Millenials arent the ones banning porn off tumblr, that's boomer CEOs fucking with places known for porn on the internet to appease their apple laiden investors to gain that ad revenue that doesnt exist because boomers made advertising too intrusive so everyone has adblock now


[09-Jan-20 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and since they arent willing to tell apple to fuck off and get over themselves, it's becoming more common because it;s what apple demands to be part of their app store


[09-Jan-20 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Just because you make some of the same mistakes as your parents doesnt mean you have your parent's moral values


[09-Jan-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
5 year olds shouldn't be watching porn but if they manage to find it you should explain it to them in a productive manner while having cps called on you when they inevitably tell other children because schools are afraid of other parents suing thme for your child;s new found knowledge

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[09-Jan-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-congress/u-s-lawmakers-divided-over-trump-iran-argument-set-war-powers-vote-idUSKBN1Z71SM

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U.S. lawmakers divided over Trump Iran argument, set war powers vote
Trump administration officials failed to convince Democratic U.S. lawmakers, and...
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[09-Jan-20 02:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jan-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-mcconnell/mcconnell-says-u-s-senate-to-move-forward-unless-house-sends-impeachment-articles-idUSKBN1Z81V9

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McConnell says U.S. Senate to move forward unless House sends impe...
The U.S. Senate will move forward with its own legislative agenda next week, unl...
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[09-Jan-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-insists-an-informed-congress-might-compromise-sources-2020-1

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Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if...
Many lawmakers — including two Republican senators — have slammed the administration for failing to provide Congress with key information.
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[09-Jan-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-lets-users-opt-out-of-seeing-as-many-political-ads-2020-1

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Facebook says it'll keep allowing misinformation in political ads ...
Facebook came under heavy fire for its decision to allow political ads to run un-factchecked on its platform ahead of the 2020 Presidential election.
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[09-Jan-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
facebook is comically evil


[09-Jan-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
but you have to keep in mind that zucc is just an enabler


[09-Jan-20 05:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Shall I shut down my Facebook account and go back to mySpace?


[09-Jan-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, why have either?


[09-Jan-20 05:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What good has come to any common man from having a facebook account?


[09-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/russian-downed-plane-iran-ukraine-top-official-200109154318859.html

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Russia may have downed plane in Iran, says top Ukraine official
Security official outlines possible theories behind Ukrainian International plane crash near Tehran, which killed 176.
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[09-Jan-20 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Article doesn't actually blame Russia... wth


[09-Jan-20 06:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jan-20 06:02 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The Iranian embassy in China is crazily throwing bad words on our social media...


[09-Jan-20 06:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://twitter.com/fab_hinz/status/1214969910465458176>
https://twitter.com/Azematt/status/1214967566369730561

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یکی از افراد محلی این تصویر اول رو  از یک قطعه داخل جوب آب در نزدیکی محل سقوط هواپیمای اوکراینی برای@AshkanMonfared_ فرستاده که به وضوح قسمت کنترل یک موشک تور ا...
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[09-Jan-20 06:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The sentence is "Trump, I f**k your mom, stinky retarded"


[09-Jan-20 06:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The poster admits they fucked a pig? Weird flex...


[09-Jan-20 06:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jan-20 06:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Iranian Embassy in China and American Embassy in China have been argued with each other for days on Weibo


[09-Jan-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon I mean


[09-Jan-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
so did David Cameron


[09-Jan-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_allegedly_


[09-Jan-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[09-Jan-20 06:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Both of them seems retarded for me...


[09-Jan-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theroot.com/1000-years-of-darkness-will-begin-if-mississippi-elects-1840885059

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‘1000 Years of Darkness’ Will Begin If Mississippi Elects Its ...
So I guess Mississippi could possibly elect a Final Fantasy villain to the Senate this year? At least, that is if you believe Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant.
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[09-Jan-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
ok boomer


[09-Jan-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
So, he's saying things are about to get black lit in here?


[09-Jan-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1QW1ZH

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U.S. imposes visa bans on International Criminal Court investigato...
The United States will withdraw or deny visas to any International Criminal Court personnel investigating possible war crimes by U.S. forces or allies in Afghanistan, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday.
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[09-Jan-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
comic book villains


[09-Jan-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we managed to become superman red son america without soviet russia even winning


[09-Jan-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we however lack a lex luthor to actually have smart ideas instead of a dumbass with a strength fetish


[09-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The difference between comic books and real life is that in real life, the villains win, nobody has powers, and everybody's kinda ugly and incompetent.


[09-Jan-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:depressed:


[09-Jan-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/tjmcnab/status/1214653879960383492/photo/1

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Sentient Blockchain (@tjmcnab)
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ahahahahahahaha what the fuck
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[09-Jan-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine living in a society


[09-Jan-20 07:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say that's brazen, but


[09-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any class that requires an internship is basically this


[09-Jan-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[09-Jan-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so internships have gone from paid, to unpaid, to paying the company...


[09-Jan-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Jan-20 08:06 PM] illumnious#7938

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[09-Jan-20 08:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/donald-trump-jr-and-ivanka-knowingly-defrauded-condo-buyers-and-wriggled-out-of-prosecution-new-book/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3435

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Donald Trump Jr and Ivanka knowingly defrauded condo buyers — an...
President Donald Trump’s two eldest children knowingly took part in a fraud scheme to sell luxury condominiums, according to a new book about the family’s business. The family’s dealings around the Trump SoHo project fell under criminal investigation, which was dropped ...
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[09-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/champagne-iran-plane-crash-1.5420398


[09-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/giant-chinese-paddlefish-declared-extinct-in-china-as-human-presence-kills-off-an-ancient-species/

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Giant Chinese paddlefish declared extinct after surviving 150 mill...
Giant Chinese paddlefish outlasted the dinosaurs and thrived in China's Yangtze River for eons, but they couldn't survive a burgeoning human presence.
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[09-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Another victory


[09-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:HR_SkeleDance:


[09-Jan-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jan-20 09:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1215098616303497216?s=21

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[09-Jan-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
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harvey weinstein pulling phone after phone out of his pockets like a circus clown while the judge becomes increasingly livid
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[09-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/794587498/this-migrant-won-in-immigration-court-and-the-u-s-sent-him-to-mexico-anyway

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This Migrant Won In Immigration Court, And The U.S. Sent Him To Me...
It has become nearly impossible for migrants at the southern border to win asylum. Even if they do get protection from a judge, in some cases they're still not allowed to stay in the country.
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[09-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
the rule of law is dead in the US


[09-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
> The judge granted Jesus withholding of removal, a form of protection from deportation. In other words, he won — something that very few migrants at the border can say these days. Jesus thought he might finally be allowed into the U.S., where he could reunite with his family.
> 
> Instead, immigration officers told him he was going back to Mexico, where he'd already spent nearly three months waiting to see a judge.
> 
> "I had no idea what was happening," he said. "No one explained it to me."


[09-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
> Last week, however, Customs and Border Protection offered a different explanation. In a statement, the agency says it can return migrants to Mexico while authorities consider whether to appeal an immigration judge's ruling.


[09-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
> "When an immigration judge's decision is appealed or under consideration for appeal, immigration proceedings remain underway," a CBP spokesman said.


[09-Jan-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
that is what happens when the police department becomes fascist


[09-Jan-20 09:48 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://mobile.twitter.com/IWFhotline/status/1214563611911131136?s=20

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In 2019, our analysts assessed more reports than ever before. But only half contained imagery we could action. False reports waste charity resources and can distress our analysts. https://t.co/Zpr0ynOEQm
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[09-Jan-20 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/video/players/offsite/index.html?videoId=100000006911815


[09-Jan-20 09:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/5Dq7BFmUWIk

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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 11: Aberfan Disaster
Today @aliceavizandum, @oldmananders0n, and @donoteat1 are joined by @TalentedVoter from the Antifada to talk about mining, the Aberfan disaster, the pitfalls of nationalization under Keynesian capitalism, and also the iggles. 

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[09-Jan-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(NYT link is video of missile hitting the downed jetliner over Tehran)


[09-Jan-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@SeraphimDawn my response to msot of the comments in that twitter post is that while loli is morally questionable, it;s being used as a smoke screen so government officials don't have to go after their friends and donors who actually run the cp rings

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[09-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/477508-poll-buttigieg-sanders-surge-to-set-up-4-way-tie-in-new-hampshire

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Poll: Buttigieg, Sanders surge sets up 4-way tie in New Hampshire
Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) have seen a spike in support in New Hampshire and are now knotted with former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen.
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[09-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) have seen a spike in support in New Hampshire and are now knotted with former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) at the top, according to a new poll."


[09-Jan-20 10:08 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@prism stryder(intexda) EXACTLY


[09-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except in the UK it is illegal and the IWF doesn't consider reports of it to be false reports.


[09-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is more likely people reporting people posting pictures of their kids in the bath etc


[09-Jan-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true, though my response was more towards the responses of the tweet more than the tweet itself


[09-Jan-20 10:11 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Meanwhile investigations into child abuse that involves powerful people are often botched up or covered.


[09-Jan-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the UK made it illegal so they could distract themselves with the artists instead of going after actuall child rings


[09-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the police are too busy dealing with reported drawn children, then the real child sex rings have time to get away


[09-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
This reminds me of a comparison image of UK vs. Japan


[09-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japanese guys looking at loli and drooling


[09-Jan-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and as most of these sex rings are run by very rich people, it is in the best interest that they do for politicians


[09-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
UK guys calling them out as pedos saying it should be illegal


[09-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
with kids around their cokks


[09-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political cartoons need balls, is what I'm saying.


[09-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Anglo society is fukked up.


[09-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm entirely certain that Japan has lower rates of sexual crimes because their culture is stuck in 1955 and it isn't reported.


[09-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It happens just as much, if not more than it does in the West I assume.


[09-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's possible, but I don't think it explains it.


[09-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan is way less touchy about this stuff


[09-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when you're less touchy


[09-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's easier to notice things


[09-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is for sure unreported child sexual abuse going on, but I really doubt Japan is especially bad about it.


[09-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the UK is ridiculous.


[09-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the rest of Asia...hoo booooy


[09-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Collectivist societies do not giv a shit if their child ends up a prostitute.


[09-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
At 10


[09-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure that changes with people like Duterte


[09-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[09-Jan-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Duterte just makes the problem worse by distracting with shooting anyone who looks like they had drugs.


[09-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
I'm confused as to why iran shot down an airliner that was majority iranians


[09-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
it must've been a mistake


[09-Jan-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I think it was a mistake


[09-Jan-20 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
I'm entirely certain that Japan has lower rates of sexual crimes because their culture is stuck in 1955 and it isn't reported. [2]


[09-Jan-20 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
also


[09-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tensions lead to short decision-making times and eager military assholes


[09-Jan-20 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
wasn't gropping in trains a big thing there and not just hentai thing


[09-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
who then make mistakes, or commit deliberate war crimes hoping to not face punishment.


[09-Jan-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sacrifing a few hundred Iranians to raise tensions could be a deliberate move.


[09-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
it was like 70 something iranians, not 100s


[09-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
it was like 63 canadians


[09-Jan-20 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

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Trudeau and Johnson say they have intelligence Iran shot down Ukra...
Canada and Britain's leaders said Thursday that they have intelligence a Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.
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[09-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's video of the hit as well, @Crow , but Iran still denies


[09-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/video/players/offsite/index.html?videoId=100000006911815


[09-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(their embed, apparently, isn't really)


[09-Jan-20 10:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/09/trump-makes-misleading-brag-about-lower-cancer-deaths-096704

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Trump makes misleading brag about lower cancer deaths
The president unsuccessfully advocated cutting $4.5 billion from the NIH budget last year.
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[09-Jan-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51053205

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Epstein jail CCTV erased by 'technical errors'
The jail mistakenly saved surveillance footage from the wrong cell block, prosecutors say.
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[09-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_Hrmm_

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[09-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Clearly this was back when Google was run by people and not their investors


[10-Jan-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a bad sign when the new ceo took the vow "we shall not be evil" off the google list of rules


[10-Jan-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ever sicne then googles gone to fuck


[10-Jan-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let that be a lesson, investors ruin everything


[10-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Omg....politics page!


[10-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Okay obvious now this great channel was constructed under conservatives.


[10-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
k


[10-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
...zoomer


[10-Jan-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4396bf63685c098c40543921bd4669d3

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House approves measure to restrain Trump’s actions on Iran
WASHINGTON (AP) — R eigniting a debate over who has the power to declare war, the Democratic-controlled House on Thursday approved a resolution asserting that President Donald Trump must seek...
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[10-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/impossible-foods-pat-brown-slams-meat-industry-182742649.html

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Impossible Foods CEO slams 'the most destructive technology on Ear...
Impossible Foods CEO Pat Brown slammed the meat industry in an interview with Yahoo Finance, calling it "the most destructive technology on Earth by far."
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[10-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
...this is news?


[10-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
I'll pay attention whenever the dems decide to release the impeachment articles and finally finish the entire process.


[10-Jan-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Waiting for an outcome to become informed is how you get yourself conned by misinformation


[10-Jan-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Besides which, the process itself is continually churning out new evidence; no one's just sitting around waiting for someone to make a move. Huge power plays are happening under the guise of nothing happening at all


[10-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Before decision made: "I'll wait til everything's decided."
After decision made: "I'm sure they had good reasons besides what's stated."
This is how people end up fascist.


[10-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, deliberately blindly accepting authority while also making sure that its word is your first info


[10-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
first info wins


[10-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but at the same time, it applies skepticism...towards whatever is *wrong* with the decision being an actual thing.


[10-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In effect making it so that you accept only the good parts.


[10-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point is, **challenge authority**.


[10-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
The dems don't really have anything.


[10-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Three years and they end up repeating the entire thing.


[10-Jan-20 01:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
see, this is exactly what we mean


[10-Jan-20 01:57 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Not to mention day one with Trump even entering the white house people have screamed Impeachment and colusion.


[10-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
If you think trump's sitting pretty he kinda is. He's more worried about his future campaign.


[10-Jan-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called conspiracy. collusion isnt a rela legal term


[10-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
If anyne got conned its the people who believe the impeachment process is finished.


[10-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The process is finished


[10-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's impeached


[10-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
No.


[10-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate trial is for removal


[10-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
The move to put him in trial under the highest court of the judicial system has been approved.


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by a coucil who doesnt want those closest to him testifying because...?


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Dems need to take the accepted documents for impeachment and actually place Trump on trial.


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If Trump isn't impeached, then neither was Clinton


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Pelosi is holding onto the articles and has said she is not going to release then.


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
On a sense this is a dirty fillibuster.


[10-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
All in an attempt to slander. Nothing more.


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her exact words were that she will release them whe she can ensure a fair trial is actually held


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Clinton finished his term before the trial even happened.


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude do you not hav access to wikipedia or something?


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the trial was whether or not to remove the impeached president


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
So yes he wasn't completely impeached. Oh and Hillary brided dozens of officials btw to allow that to happen.


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton had a trial


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Wikipedia can be sabotaged.


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was acquitted.


[10-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Public access anyone?


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you ever trust any information?


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't how impeachment works


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
He was impeached...


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and is


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why does this keep happening


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
For worse crimes than trump.


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was impeached. He was acquitted.


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wat


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you telling me having affairs


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
sexual misconduct......


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
perjury


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
that too.


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
is worse than bribing people to destroy your political opponent?


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was impeached for perjury


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He wasn't impeached for getting a blowjob


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus christ


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
hillary?!


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
waat


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude are you okay?


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bill Clinton


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
BILL


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Like Jesus christ Hillary


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
was the one impeached.


[10-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time a conservative pops into this channel it's the same thing


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not Hillary


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary was Bill's wife


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
rolling my eyrs.


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
who he cheated on.


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was not on trial


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
for anything.


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
So quick to cut us short and then you plug your ears


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bill was on trial


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was acquitted.


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Bill wa supportrd by his wife whom bribed officials.


[10-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does Hillary bribing anyone hav to do with Bill being acquitted?


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, I don't doubt she'd do it, but she was not the one on trial.


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Remedyfortheheart#1615
Let's see her crimes.


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's not the president or his wife anymore.


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does she hav to do with anything?


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she was already investigated and she isnt president


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
She holds no office.


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she will never be president


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
unless...


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Buttery males


[10-Jan-20 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
muted


[10-Jan-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
just a troll


[10-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The problem with thinking every idiot is just a troll is how many of them there are that turn out to be genuine


[10-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't attribute to malice what could be malice _and_ stupidity


[10-Jan-20 02:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Indeed, what they were saying is what just about every trump sympathizer I know actually believes


[10-Jan-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
in either way, not worth discussing when they don't accept basic facts about the world


[10-Jan-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve been in a classroom full of them


[10-Jan-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was very draining


[10-Jan-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not that I want to avoid discussion it's just that this is totally meaningless and almost _designed_ to suck up your time in a pointless debate you won't win


[10-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/9/21059083/amazon-honey-browser-extension-security-risk-paypal-acquisition-competition

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Amazon suspiciously says browser extension Honey is a security ris...
The timing is suspect, and Honey is pushing back
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[10-Jan-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Besides, they did show themselves unwilling to argue in good faith by the first few comments


[10-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>Paypal owns Amazon


[10-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
When did this happen


[10-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ohhh I got it wrong


[10-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Paypal owns Honey


[10-Jan-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Honey actually is spyware though


[10-Jan-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
This is well established and nothing new


[10-Jan-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Adblockers have known about this for years


[10-Jan-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So this is why youtubers keep advertising it


[10-Jan-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Today's comment is sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends!


[10-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'm just going to type in RAIDSHADOWLEGENDS in every promo code field I see from now on


[10-Jan-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today's video is sponsered by RAID: Honey VRV


[10-Jan-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i use honey though...


[10-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
If you don't like your data being sold, stop using it


[10-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
How do you think such a business makes money?


[10-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Shouldn't it seem obvious that if you're not paying, then you're the product?


[10-Jan-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they profit off comissions


[10-Jan-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
For every purchase you make using Honey link, Honey receives few percent of the transaction. Sometimes it’s 0.5% sometimes 10%, depends on the merchant.

Then they decide how they want to share their commission with you. Similar products usually share half of the commission with you.

Therefore:

Spend $100 at the merchant using Honey’s referral link.

Honey gets $2 = 2%

Honey gives you $1 back (1%)


[10-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
So you have to usse a Honey referral link to actually use Honey?


[10-Jan-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the honey referal link i assume is the coupon code it gives you


[10-Jan-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
afaict honey scans for coupon entry forms and tries out codes it deems as valid


[10-Jan-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
enough people use honey where this system can be profitable


[10-Jan-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I assume some stores give out codes for honey to track with the idea to incentivize people to spend when they otherwise wouldn't


[10-Jan-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it helps businesses move product, it helps people save on said products, and honey takes some of that money in the transaction as a fee


[10-Jan-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So Amazon might not participate, but Newegg might


[10-Jan-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Newegg generates codes, gets sales they otherwise wouldn't, pays Honey, and Honey makes sure they can sort of work Amazon codes in as a way to get more users to use the system, all the while making sure to advertise "new deals at Newegg!" however they can


[10-Jan-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
users aren't the product, the coupons are


[10-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's a form of advertisement, so the user is the product for the stores that actively participate


[10-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[10-Jan-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast i get soemthing out of it


[10-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/08/can-you-locate-iran-few-voters-can/

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Joanna Piacenza
https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/08/can-you-locate-iran-few-voters-can/
Can You Locate Iran? Few Voters Can.
As tensions between the United States and Iran rise in the aftermath of the American drone strike that killed the country’s most powerful commander, Gen. Qassem Soleimani, a new Morning Consult/Politico survey finds fewer than 3 in 10 registered voters can identify the Isla...
https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/200107_Iran-Map-Placement-Feature-Image.png


[10-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing I like to open with with people who havn't a clue


[10-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to ask them which countries are next to Iran


[10-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
east and west.


[10-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then point out which countries the US has been having troops in fighting wars for well over a decade.


[10-Jan-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really helps paint the picture for the uneducated of what the ultimate point of all this is.


[10-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I find it very annoying that like


[10-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
in 6th grade, geography teacher made us memorize middle east country maps


[10-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's STILL relevant


[10-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If any information out of my entire education could be made irrelevant, I'd like it to be that information.


[10-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should not be the case that there is yet another pile of shit going down such that we hav to talk about which particular country the US is fukking up now.


[10-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as there's oil over there and the UAE and SA have shitloads of money, the region will be a problem


[10-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real talk, Democrats need to destroy the oil industry.


[10-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, never ever allow any pipelines or anything.


[10-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shut down all plans to import it or develop new technology to extract it.


[10-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mandate the entire US gov't except the military use electric vehicles


[10-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
then tell the military it has 10 years


[10-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pipe dream, I know, but it's the only way at this point.


[10-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bit unrealistic to get tanks and jetfighters off gas...


[10-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as we need oil, Republicans will shill like crazy to foreign countries.


[10-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need much as far as tanks, fighters are the big problem.


[10-Jan-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/justice-dept-winds-down-clinton-related-inquiry-once-championed-by-trump-it-found-nothing-of-consequence/2020/01/09/ca83932e-32f9-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html


[10-Jan-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jan-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once again, they foud nothing of interest


[10-Jan-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/01/arizona-republican-introduces-bill-ban-word-homosexuality-public-schools/

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Arizona Republican introduces bill to ban the word “homosexualit...
And that's only the beginning of what she wants...
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[10-Jan-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Well that's gay.


[10-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I've never seen a *woman* with such a punchable face


[10-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
_starts signalling the rest of the gay agenda_


[10-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's usually a luxury only reserved for men


[10-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hurry up, bois, we got a live one.


[10-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But this bitch is real special huh


[10-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe she was raised on what was once an indian burial ground


[10-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
absorbed all the evil energy of capitalism grinding away the cultures of the past.


[10-Jan-20 03:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The one woman gay guys would like to pound.


[10-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
She thinks they've been pounding each other hard for pleasure, but no


[10-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's so their cokks are strong enuff to defeat her dead-inside body.


[10-Jan-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
arizona delores umbridge


[10-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is it with fascist women and that really round hairstyle?


[10-Jan-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good question


[10-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it's a deliberate attempt to not look too sexy because NUCLEAR FAMILY


[10-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
While making their heads look bigger, and thus more powerful.


[10-Jan-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or maybe their hair just naturally grows in that way because much like caillou they dont deserve good hair


[10-Jan-20 04:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's a hairstyle that was very common in their time. Every conservative woman wants to look like Thatcher for some reason. Like Nazis do Hitler tash or skinhead/wet combover.


[10-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but why did Thatcher choose it?


[10-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was it just really normal?


[10-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Female baldness


[10-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's very common, but longer hair and general better care over the years allows for ways to hide it


[10-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of them being hairstyles that bunch up volume


[10-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's pretty much to look more powerful.


[10-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to what Trump does to hide the extreme thinness of his hair.


[10-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, styles like that help with "thinning hair", but they also project a sense of "I'm not trying to look sexy / available"


[10-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's a confluence of the two, wonderful.


[10-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As for hairstyles related to fascists, honestly I sooner associate the FOX NEWS "straight off the factory conveyor" blond


[10-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Kellyanne Conway?


[10-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[10-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
To me that's just like, they're literally no identity, just a shill for others.


[10-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Intended to get your attention but not be remembered individually.


[10-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Call me racist, but I immediately discard the opinion of dyed blondes


[10-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```it was a bad sign when the new ceo took the vow "we shall not be evil" off the google list of rules```


[10-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
actually I didn't know they did it xD


[10-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
at least they were honest. I can respect that.


[10-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It wasn't so much the "rules" as it was the company tagline


[10-Jan-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I know.


[10-Jan-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
still, the point stands.


[10-Jan-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And one day people noticed the page that included that line got updated...


[10-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/duke-duchess-sussex-madame-tussauds-removal/index.html

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Meghan and Harry waxworks removed from Royal family display at Mad...
London's Madame Tussauds museum has removed the waxworks of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex from its Royal Family set.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200109112222-01-tussauds-harry-meghan-wax-figure-super-tease.jpg


[10-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Queen's salty


[10-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
reading through the backlog, what's the connection between Honey and RAID:SL?


[10-Jan-20 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they both aggressively seek youtube sponsorships


[10-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
ah. Well.


[10-Jan-20 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meaning they have the budget for an ad campaign so prolific that it's become a meme


[10-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As someone that's seen the numbers for _tiny_ YT ad campaigns, that means they have tens of millions to spend


[10-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
kinda weird in RAID's case, it really didn't look like a huge product with massive financial backing when I stumbled upon it.


[10-Jan-20 05:24 AM] illumnious#7938
that's petty as fuck


[10-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
haven't even heard about Honey before, but, with PP as owners, unsuprising.


[10-Jan-20 05:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclBYy5h3zI

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Late Night with Seth Meyers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclBYy5h3zI
Iran’s Foreign Minister Criticizes Trump’s Military Strike
Seth Meyers' monologue from Tuesday, January 7.

Subscribe to Late Night: http://bit.ly/LateNightSeth
 
Watch Late Night with Seth Meyers Weeknights 12:35/11:35c on NBC.
 
Get more Late Night with Seth Meyers: http://www.nbc.com/late-night-with-seth-meyers/
 
LATE NIGHT ON SO...
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[10-Jan-20 05:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  from your article
> In 2015, Allen proposed a bill that would force all Arizona citizens to attend church. She currently lives in the town of Snowflake, Arizona.
seriously?
edit: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake,_Arizona>

*Millennial snowflake noises*

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[10-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[10-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
AZ unironically sounds like a place I'd probably enjoy living in, but this angle and intensity of stupid from the local government is unfortunate :/


[10-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely you'd enjoy it


[10-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize the climate there is...not good.


[10-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Air conditioning is mandatory


[10-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you'd think "oh, water!" buuuuut


[10-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of the western US is just dry as shit, so water is expensive, because we've basically demolished the aquifers that were there.


[10-Jan-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
A huge chunk of the US is basically only anywhere near pleasant to liv in if you've got a ton of money for utilities.


[10-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
AZ is hell on earth


[10-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's gangsta til the road melts.


[10-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only reason people don't die by the thousands is it's too fucking dry


[10-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
well, okay.


[10-Jan-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess not then.


[10-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It needs to be understood


[10-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That if you leave something outside in Arizona during its 6 months of summer


[10-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's either destroyed or will destroy what it touches


[10-Jan-20 06:52 AM] soundtea#9032
That KOTH episode put it pretty well


[10-Jan-20 06:52 AM] soundtea#9032
The cities there are a monument to man's arrogance


[10-Jan-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE

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Blossom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE
Phoenix
It's true, you know.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4PYt0SDnrBE/sddefault.jpg


[10-Jan-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"They died to make the desert bloom"- Inscription on Hoover Dam


[10-Jan-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I looked that up and see what is going on and I'm like


[10-Jan-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They died in vain


[10-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea that with farming, dams, and a bit of cities, we could make the west lush was a myth to propel land buyups.


[10-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Somehow Woody Guthrie wrote basically a whole propaganda song about doing that


[10-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/20ZffI6by3A

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Jason Orosco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20ZffI6by3A
Roll On Columbia, Roll On
words and music by Woody Guthrie.

Finely had time to make a new video, The photos are of the Columbia river from the Pacific Ocean all the way up to Canada.

Historical and Geographical Content

The chorus of "Roll On, Columbia, Roll On" declares that the Columbia River is "...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/20ZffI6by3A/hqdefault.jpg


[10-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A song by the guy who sang "This Land is Your Land" that also talks about hanging resistant Indians.


[10-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"This Land is Your Land" should still be the national anthem, though.


[10-Jan-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck do we have a national anthem that was originally a poem? Why does it end in a question?


[10-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just not good for a song.


[10-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus it's to the tune of a British song that was intentionally designed to be difficult to sing. GG.


[10-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This land is your land, if you're not an indian, obviously.


[10-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even know what else could be the national anthem.


[10-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the only other song I would pick.


[10-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any other option is either British and/or mentions God.


[10-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of the current anthem is it's about war and resilience.


[10-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fits Wilsonianism better.


[10-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This Land is Your Land is basically about a hobo who doesn't follow the rules.


[10-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why we don't have it as our anthem is the same reason Australia doesn't have Waltzing Matilda as theirs, despite it being better.


[10-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which would you rather sing: a song about a hobo who steals sheep, runs from cops and kills himself before becoming a ghost


[10-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a song that says "our home is girt by sea"


[10-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wilsonianism needs to die.


[10-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if the right in America realizes how "vengeful" the left will be


[10-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though it is funny to hear people on the right complain about stock things that every person on the left hates too (corporate greed and the like) but still refuse to vote for left wing candidates


[10-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just about race, nothing else.


[10-Jan-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
As 538 has noted, American voting behavior in red states is often "higher minimum wage, more voting rights, legal weed...and Republican governance"


[10-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Admittedly, voting rights are racial, but really they're only barely popular, and only blakk/white, not non-white/white.


[10-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah yeah the whole gamer thing is a meme but half of the people I see would want like, a Department of Electronic Entertainment Regulations or some shit


[10-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That prevents anti consumer practices and has like a consumer led board that directs what companies do


[10-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans really don't want mexicans or native americans to come close to winning anything, and blakks they'll only begrudgingly sort of allow to be second.


[10-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forced out vs forced in


[10-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The classic fight over who to treat worse


[10-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately what'll happen is the right will wonder where its support went as the population becomes more diverse


[10-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voter suppression can get you far, but it's a further stretch each time


[10-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I already see people bitching that Texas was ruined.


[10-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like damn you complained blue states sucked and said people should move


[10-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They did, and now you're all pissy


[10-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'll come a point at which a state says ICE agents that enter its borders will be arrested and charged with accessory to murder.


[10-Jan-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans will be in a mad dash to punish it only to find they barely hav electoral support.


[10-Jan-20 09:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This decade the GOP will lose Texas and they won't be able to handle it, pure and simple.


[10-Jan-20 09:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will lead to the actual fissure of the party simply based on numbers


[10-Jan-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget Florida


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but you can kinda make up for that


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Texas


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was only Red cause of blakks being constantly purged off voter rolls and lots of them losing voting rights permanently


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't make up for Florida in the electoral college


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the election happened tomorrow, all Democratic candidates beat Trump


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Win the blue wall?


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Florida


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Winning the blue wall barely does anything


[10-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is huge


[10-Jan-20 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is my favorite shitposty 2020 prediction


[10-Jan-20 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/12/26/president-buttigieg-and-other-not-entirely-serious-predictions-for-2020/

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President Buttigieg and other not-entirely-serious predictions for...
Though last year’s annual not-totally-serious forecast missed by predicting Ivanka Trump would become White House chief of staff and Vladimir Putin would...
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[10-Jan-20 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except I think it will be Sanders or Warren


[10-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it simply


[10-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.270towin.com

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[10-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just clikk Florida 4 times


[10-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dem win


[10-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav to giv Republicans every other state up for grabs and something else


[10-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn


[10-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida restoring felons' voting rights is a tactical nuke to the GOP


[10-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just has very delayed effects


[10-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a reason they tried to weasel in "pay all your fines first...and we'll make sure there's tons of them"


[10-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Headline, November 4: "TRUMP SECOND PLACE IN ELECTION; SANDERS ELECTED PENDING ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE"


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can actually giv Republicans all the current tossups but Florida


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND Nevada


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
they still lose


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever wins the Democratic nomination needs to fukk up *hard* to lose.


[10-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is the important primary in Iowa or New Hampshire and not Florida?


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Florida was a late addition to the US


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and has a rapidly changing population


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the goal is to throw out minorities


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
for both parties.


[10-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems just recently noticed all their racists fled to the Republican side


[10-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
(with some exceptions like Tulsi and Biden)


[10-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've noticed a few stragglers yea


[10-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party has found itself a beacon of liberalism


[10-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
because all the conservatives were drained out to elect people who would intertwine church and state


[10-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Evangelicalism is hardly even Christianity.


[10-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least the Graham tier stuff


[10-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless, it drives people away from Christianity and the Republican party


[10-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because even if they like one of the two, the other puts them off.


[10-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't be a Republican now without saying that abortion is a sin


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't be a Christian now without swearing loyalty to Donald Trump


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is a short term powerful mix


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What my theory is now is that the GOP is putting way too much effort into the base and ignoring how Democrats are doing ground games better for the first time in decades


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ignore the last three years of elections, how close things are


[10-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This stadium got filled up


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is basically nonexistent in blue states now


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are very existent in red ones.


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once the GOP leaves a state, they're just completely burned up in it


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh the California GOP is dead though to be fair so is the Wyoming Democratic Party


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue islands are loud but don't flip in places like that.


[10-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing about borderline fascism


[10-Jan-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very hard to get the first bit of it in place to slide down the slope


[10-Jan-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's impressive how much the GOP has held on tho.


[10-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really takes time for demographics to change, and for them to start affecting the vote.


[10-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't help that SCOTUS gutted the VRA


[10-Jan-20 09:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny


[10-Jan-20 09:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've ended so many arguments about how Democrats supposedly rig things through fraud simply by showing gerrymandering


[10-Jan-20 09:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That stops even the most dedicated and ignorant people I've spoken to


[10-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I've been thinking lately. US often accuses us (as well as the rest of the world, and their political opponents) of 'corruption'. Defined as misusing or breaking the laws primarily. Only just now I realise why.


[10-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Opponent#3498
the 'proper' way is simply make laws that set in stone whatever you aim to do. Voter fraud is only a fraud if there isn't a law to reinforce it.


[10-Jan-20 10:10 AM] Opponent#3498
bribery is only bribery when there isn't a law to reinforce it.


[10-Jan-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If something's enshrined in law, it's challengible by the legislature and judicial branch.


[10-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making something be challengible is a big deal for reducing its power to go around causing evil against the people.


[10-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Creating this endless stream of busywork and 'democracy'.


[10-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not getting it.


[10-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Opponent#3498
making people believe they matter and can change something


[10-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to make it hard to like, destroy the country.


[10-Jan-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more eyes peering over what you're doing, and the more people set up with power against it, the harder it is to destroy the country.


[10-Jan-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same principle as I keep trying to tell Its


[10-Jan-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bribery will always happen to some extent


[10-Jan-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you make it so *more* people need to be bribed to be successful, you reduce bribery.


[10-Jan-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, transparency in the law doesn't just like, extinguish the fire that is the bribery


[10-Jan-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
it sets up a big obstacle course


[10-Jan-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure if someone has unlimited resources, they can bribe every single person in the gov't and do whatever they want.


[10-Jan-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But people don't actually hav unlimited resources.


[10-Jan-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every legal roadblokk you set up, provided the enforcement mechanism is bakked up by yet more roadblokks in a sort of self-sustaining system, reduces the likelihood of success, and thus increases the necessary minimum scale to achieve dominance via corrupt means.


[10-Jan-20 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Gov't itself** is just this concept, it's a big obvious thing that deals with problems in a way everyone can see.


[10-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It *could* just be some private, closed-off system that steals money from people to go around seeding the country so it can rake in profit.


[10-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then it would just be corrupt as fukk case bribes bribes bribes and it'd kill itself.


[10-Jan-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of having judges and legislators and actual officials in a structure that's really obvious is to hav these grinding gears to prevent societal collapse by providing stability and response mechanisms.


[10-Jan-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bribery is just a channel for someone to step outside that to get what they want against the stability, and the way you stop it is by throwing more gears in the way.


[10-Jan-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes this means you hav a ton of seemingly-pointless bureaucracy and it feels like the US is just selling you a do-nothing machine, but at the end of the day, mr. corrupt policeman whose idea of a good time is shooting random poor people suddenly finds that it's a crime to file a 184-F-J form incorrectly about how many bullets he used and his whole mess unravels and catches fire with crowds chanting outside courthouses.


[10-Jan-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
*That's the point of it.*


[10-Jan-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
so the core goal is dual benefit of transparency and stability.


[10-Jan-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
at least societal stability.


[10-Jan-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[10-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instability is generally a bad thing, unless you dislike the current system.


[10-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even then, you only want temporary instability to change it.


[10-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You might still end up sending in armed forces to disrupt people who are rioting over an actual injustice, but at least there'll be some assurance that enuff people thought "is this really a good idea" that it'll reduce the damage at the end of the day, vs. having next to no gov't.


[10-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A monopoly on violence plus crippling self-doubt leads to a pretty peaceful and prosperous society.


[10-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also leads to the rich getting mega rich, of course.


[10-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need REALLY robust systems to keep the rich from just getting crazy rich, that's the main problem where the US model breaks down.


[10-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Causes at a certain point, they're so rich they can actually get past all the gears and bribe to get even richer, vicious cycle as they slowly take control of everything.


[10-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If however you can really turn the system *against people developing bribery power*, then got a hell of a system going and can make your country ridiculous.


[10-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Scandinavian idea.


[10-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It remains to be seen how stable that is over the long term.


[10-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if you really want to look at why this is a thing to begin with, just look to feudalism and how it worked and its problems


[10-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism is the sort of system you get where the state doesn't hav a robust bureaucracy and a monopoly on violence.


[10-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead it's just a messy hierarchy of families with their own loyal forces competing horizontally and vertically.


[10-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And well, generally the agreement is feudalism is terrible.


[10-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ridiculously unstable and destroys a ton of your resources on a regular basis while simultaneously preventing any aggregation of sufficient wealth anywhere to actually innovate.


[10-Jan-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
All because its *entire premise* is to make bribery basically the law of the land.


[10-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think that's the defining traits of feudalism. Bribery as the law of the land, more like tiered law systems, heavily depending on the 'class' of the subject.


[10-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Opponent#3498
not just in application, which is a given, but in theory as well.


[10-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
also, monopoly of violence... Ehhh.


[10-Jan-20 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it has *law* systems, in theory, but everything is based on personal loyalties and wealth


[10-Jan-20 10:37 AM] Opponent#3498
by itself it's not a good thing. While there's no consensus on the topic as far as I've known, I've read credible accounts that the great big fun times we had in the 90'ies were caused by governments (ours and russian, and likely other similar-minded states) subcontracting violence to criminal underworld. A deliberate act aimed at consolidating wealth and pacifying the population ('play by the rules or see your children sold into slavery', followed by 'thank god it's over, long live the new government' once the decade was over).


[10-Jan-20 10:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it worked, too.


[10-Jan-20 10:39 AM] Opponent#3498
the wealth, well, anyone who is anyone and not funded from the outside has in one way or another come from the 90ies or was heavily involved.


[10-Jan-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Monopolies on vielence seem to strongly reduce violence.


[10-Jan-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is much harder for a single gov't to be everywhere killing people at random over local disputes.


[10-Jan-20 10:40 AM] Opponent#3498
the pacification bit, wasn't really enough, but it was going pretty strong for a while.


[10-Jan-20 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 90s look **ridiculously** peaceful by historical standards


[10-Jan-20 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this isn't just some transfer of who does killing or who gets killed, the overall number of people killed is way, way, way down


[10-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
To get anywhere near historical levels of violence, you need to hav those monopolizing powers use violence on each other's armies.


[10-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But ultimately you can't hav that occur regularly.


[10-Jan-20 10:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the goal wasn't mass murder, but primarily terror as a means of control. So those numbers _are_ probably not that impressive.


[10-Jan-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't seem to be all that afraid of random soldiers bursting in their doors anymore


[10-Jan-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They may still list it as a fear (things like SWATting) occasionally, and it may still be a thing, but it's just waaaaaay less common to be so regular.


[10-Jan-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In most areas of the world, the expectation is that the most confrontation that will happen is an unarmed police officer knokks on your door to tell you you're breaking some particular law


[10-Jan-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, it'll be far worse in an area with a lot more oil than other resources like the middle east, because of big powers using their monopolies, but they're a small portion of the world and don't contain most of its people.


[10-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure even in mediveal times, if soldiers of a particular lord knew he'd be punished for something like that (i.e. the policies didn't support it), it wasn't a huge concern for people in that area. Whether or not any specific lord would care is irrelevant.


[10-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The policies always supported it


[10-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, but that's different.


[10-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not a problem of a system. It's a problem of policies.


[10-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You couldn't really feed a feudal army without ransakking villages as you went in enemy territory


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Opponent#3498
and this is yet again different.


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's pointless semantic bullshit.


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Opponent#3498
going into enemy territory has nothing to do with domestic policies.


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feudal systems in general had armies that were undersupplied due to lakk of centralization and had to go around terrorizing the enemy's countryside


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
or even their own countryside


[10-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize here is "enemy territory" could be 20 miles in either direction


[10-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
some particular lord decides to go burn the territory of an adjacent one


[10-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would still be technically the same country a lot of the time


[10-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Opponent#3498
that doesn't matter. It's still a distinct state. A solid argument against microstates and city-states and whatever else, to be sure, but not the point.


[10-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But without a strong, central authority, who is going to stop you?


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you are counting the local lord's own protected area by his military as a distinct state, then you hav thousands of distinct states


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and at any given time, dozens of them are at war with each other


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Opponent#3498
kind of, essentially, yeah.


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you see the problem here?


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, obviously.


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you group these up into bigger states, it's harder for wars to spring up.


[10-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when wars DO spring up


[10-Jan-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's much easier to supply an army with everything in your vast territory under control


[10-Jan-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can hav proper supply lines so you don't need to rely on raiding the enemy villages


[10-Jan-20 10:52 AM] Opponent#3498
nnnnot quite, and we have raiding enemy (or 'liberated') villages for food at least as late as WW2 on both sides of Eastern Front. It's not really the point.


[10-Jan-20 10:53 AM] Opponent#3498
also, the thousand micro states system can still work in times of war, there would be criteria set for individual lords to provide a number of troops, their equipment and supplies (as well as probably go themselves). It's harder but people did it.


[10-Jan-20 10:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not the point.


[10-Jan-20 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harder matters


[10-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it matters a LOT


[10-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you make something harder, people do it less


[10-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And WW2's raiding did not involve stealing all the cattle and burning down the village, generally.


[10-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's much more organized when you hav clear rules, enforcement of those rules by a bureaucracy, and both sides are like this.


[10-Jan-20 10:55 AM] Opponent#3498
as far as I understood it (and I might have missed the thread somewhere along the way, but still), you equate 'monopoly on violence' to 'state power'. As in, a defining characteristic that a state is defined by. Is that correct?


[10-Jan-20 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
A village can actually be properly handed over and giv resources without threatening every individual farmer with a sword and having a go at all their wives


[10-Jan-20 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, the point is that monopoly on violence is a key aspect of the type of gov't in modern times that is really stable.


[10-Jan-20 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
One that kills people a lot less, has a lot less bribery going on, and in general makes things run smoother.


[10-Jan-20 10:56 AM] Opponent#3498
but it's a government trait. Applied in this context. Right?


[10-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
A trait of *modern* gov'ts. Most of them, anyways.


[10-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[10-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a prerequisite for US style bureaucracy to fight corruption.


[10-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without it, everything falls apart.


[10-Jan-20 10:58 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, fair, this I can agree with. Things like regional tribes with their own sets of rules, laws and whatever else they decide to operate by, does make things less predictable and harder to manage.


[10-Jan-20 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you hav things like private military contractors, or multiple competing armies from other nations in your territory, things are going to be corrupt as shit.


[10-Jan-20 10:59 AM] Opponent#3498
or that.


[10-Jan-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the big point of this all is that having these rules and mechanisms actually does stuff.


[10-Jan-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bribes need the flexibility of an open, chaotic system to flourish.


[10-Jan-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more you make the way things wore strict and defined and visible, the more you stop them.


[10-Jan-20 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't model isn't *the best* at stopping them, largely because it's missing certain safety measures on wealth acquisition.


[10-Jan-20 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it beats a lot of other systems.


[10-Jan-20 11:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and it seems to ultimately have pretty little to do with how restrictive the laws are.


[10-Jan-20 11:01 AM] Opponent#3498
just that things were _clear_.


[10-Jan-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The laws don't need to be strict so much as they need to set up structure.


[10-Jan-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people who don't bribe at all and use the structure may still get what they want 9 times out of 10


[10-Jan-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that other 1 time, you stopped a countrywide collapse because a lot of people took one look and said "haha no"


[10-Jan-20 11:03 AM] Opponent#3498
makes sense when you put it this way, yeah.


[10-Jan-20 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, the whole school lunch debt thing not only tends to rapidly get local philanthropists involved cause of the structure that gets stories to the press and then out, but also it is very likely to cause legislation soon.


[10-Jan-20 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less structure, and people would be totally unaware that it was a widespread thing, nothing would be done.


[10-Jan-20 11:11 AM] Opponent#3498
heh, so the awful 'heartwarming' 'little people help little people' stories result in some actual good. And the circle completes itself.


[10-Jan-20 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/eu-hold-crisis-talks-iran-nuclear-deal-trump-called-foolish-2020-1

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[10-Jan-20 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-white-house-respond-house-war-powers-resolution-iran-strike-2020-1

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The House voted in favor of the War Powers Resolution in response to President Donald Trump's decisions that escalated tensions with Iran.
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[10-Jan-20 02:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[10-Jan-20 02:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this didn't age well. lol


[10-Jan-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure it's a modern thing


[10-Jan-20 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
well, retro, rather than contemporary.


[10-Jan-20 02:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/uk/brexit-deal-uk-votes-gbr-intl/index.html

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UK parliament finally rubber stamps Brexit in no-fuss vote
The House of Commons has voted overwhelmingly in favor of Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, finally paving the way for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union later this month after more than four decades of membership.
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[10-Jan-20 02:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's  deal?


[10-Jan-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I suppose the deal is that they're giving up NI

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[10-Jan-20 04:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This guy looks like Trump so much...


[10-Jan-20 04:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/09/opinions/aoc-biden-democratic-party-harrop/index.html

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AOC should leave the Democratic Party
Froma Harrop writes that Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez's comments about her political differences from Biden are ignorant of his long time progressive record.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191129164721-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-for-zelizer-oped-super-tease.jpg


[10-Jan-20 04:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
neolibs be mad


[10-Jan-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside the fuck does that propaganda poster mean


[10-Jan-20 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh apparently it's an edit


[10-Jan-20 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[10-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
no shit


[10-Jan-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[10-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
ah yes, that's more reasonable.


[10-Jan-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden has a long time progressive record?


[10-Jan-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the first i;m hearing of it


[10-Jan-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-conducted-iran-strike-to-satisfy-gop-senators-before-impeachment-2020-1

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Trump reportedly told associates he killed Qassem Soleimani to app...
Sen. Lindsey Graham was the only congressional lawmaker Trump briefed about his plan to assassinate Soleimani in the days leading up to the strike.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e18977e24fe1257ae3ea068?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jan-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/vermont-bill-cell-phone-ban-mobile-21-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/vermont-bill-cell-phone-ban-mobile-21-2020-1
A new Vermont bill would make it illegal for anyone under 21 to us...
The lawmaker who wrote the bill said he introduced it to make a point and doesn't expect it to pass.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e188b68b2e66a4ff94f54a7?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jan-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
how nice of them to clarify.


[10-Jan-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Indeed, Rodgers said he introduced the bill as a protest to a recent law the state had passed, which banned people under 21 from buying a gun unless they had taken a safety course. He told the Times Argus that he believed the legislature was "bent on taking away our Second Amendment rights," and that he thought cellphones were more dangerous than guns.


[10-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...they can still buy guns though. They just have to take classes first


[10-Jan-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which to be honest is a great deal as it treats owning a gun like owning a car and teaches the dangers that may come of it if they aren't careful with them.


[10-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
100% support this btw.


[10-Jan-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I thought the point they tried to make with the phone thing was, something like 'tech destroying society', which would be pretty deep.


[10-Jan-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
vague disappointment.


[10-Jan-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now watch his bill pass out of spite


[10-Jan-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-didnt-know-when-where-iranian-attack-would-happen-2020-1

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After Trump claimed Iran was plotting to blow up the US embassy in...
Mike Pompeo conceded that the administration didn't know "precisely where" and "when" an allegedly "imminent" Iranian attack would occur.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e18844f24fe12415615ec96?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jan-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misread that title horribly...


[10-Jan-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought it said trump claimed he was plotting to attack the us embassy...


[10-Jan-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
a false flag op is probably on the table.


[10-Jan-20 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But if they do that, they just prove how ineffective killing the guy was...


[10-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump and pompeo are pumping out constant excuses now because the real reason was appeasing the senate GOP to vote i his favor against removal


[10-Jan-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
to people who try to think maybe, but for many it would be simply 'see, we're justified!'


[10-Jan-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump to his base looks like the big bad hero because they dont know how foreign policy works and why this stunt was extremely bad


[10-Jan-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump is telling iran's face that he wants de-escalation, while boasting the killing of solemani at his fan rallies


[10-Jan-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-brags-about-soleimani-death-at-rally-after-calming-tensions-2020-1

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Trump tried to calm Iran tensions, then a day later bragged about ...
"We stopped him quickly and we stopped him cold," Trump told cheering supporters of his decision to assassinate Soleimani.
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[10-Jan-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and probably declaring threats against iran at his rallies as well because his rallies are all about escalation and never de-escalation


[10-Jan-20 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-send-trump-impeachment-articles-to-senate-next-week-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she will send Trump articles of im...
Pelosi's announcement comes after weeks of delay as Democrats and Republicans duked it out over the terms of Trump's trial.
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[10-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51063149?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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Trump says someone else got his Nobel peace prize
He implied that he saved Ethiopia from war but Ethiopia's leader received the peace prize instead.
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[10-Jan-20 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[10-Jan-20 06:34 PM] illumnious#7938
:cryingTrump:


[10-Jan-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why is this not satire...?


[10-Jan-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
WHY?


[10-Jan-20 06:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Almost start a war then downplay it. A man of peace.


[10-Jan-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/477712-williamson-drops-out-of-2020-democratic-primary :drama:

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Marianne Williamson drops out of 2020 race
Author Marianne Williamson dropped out of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary on Friday, writing in a note to supporters on her website that her campaign would not be able to get enough votes "to elevate our conversation any more than it
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[10-Jan-20 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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Brand Refresh
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[10-Jan-20 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Jan-20 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
how long before republicans start using "economic diversity" seriously


[10-Jan-20 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ah, such is the tragedic suffering of the poor Jeff Bezos


[10-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, the poor jorfus bartholomew


[10-Jan-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sits upon is amazonian tower wishing to become a god, yet the cult never comes to worship


[10-Jan-20 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nuu, not Williams =[


[10-Jan-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a sad day indeed


[10-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Trump did the strike to try to get Graham not to defect during trial voting? Wow, this situation got dumber somehow.


[10-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump very likely pissed off normal Republicans enuff they might defect instead.


[10-Jan-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Graham is already riddled with enough shame to keep him glued to trumps side, appeasing him should be the least of trump's worries


[10-Jan-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
glued to trump's asshole*


[10-Jan-20 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
human centipede style


[10-Jan-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
also


[10-Jan-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
> Wow, this situation got dumber somehow.


[10-Jan-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
remember, this is trump


[10-Jan-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
it gets dumber every day


[10-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
:Trump:


[10-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just impressive he did this thru those around him.


[10-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe they were maliciously compliant.


[10-Jan-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every trump article i read now feels like absolute satire...


[10-Jan-20 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Nice trump emoji @Luna von Rainy'


[10-Jan-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security/washington-dismisses-iraqi-call-to-remove-troops-idUSKBN1Z80P5

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Washington dismisses Iraqi call to remove troops
Washington on Friday dismissed an Iraqi request to prepare to pull out its troop...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200110&t=2&i=1474460190&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG080EI


[10-Jan-20 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/613223207163396096/665280559542697994/Screenshot_20200110-114704.jpg

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[10-Jan-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-usa-delegation/u-s-says-any-delegation-to-iraq-would-not-discuss-troop-withdrawal-idUSKBN1Z91MG

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U.S. says any delegation to Iraq would not discuss troop withdrawal
Any delegation the United States would send to Iraq would not discuss the withdr...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200110&t=2&i=1474684220&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG09107


[10-Jan-20 08:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/business/mit-jeffrey-epstein-joi-ito.html

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By David Yaffe-Bellany, Tiffany Hsu and Marc Tracy
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/business/mit-jeffrey-epstein-joi-ito.html
Jeffrey Epstein Gave $850,000 to M.I.T., and Administrators Knew
The university investigated its history with Mr. Epstein after Joichi Ito, the face of its prominent Media Lab program, acknowledged receiving money from the convicted sex offender.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/10/business/10mit2/10mit2-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-Jan-20 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
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[10-Jan-20 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
~~based~~


[10-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The United Kingdom of England and England


[10-Jan-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
BK = British Kingdom


[10-Jan-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
burger kingdom


[10-Jan-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸


[10-Jan-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcdingles england emporium


[10-Jan-20 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I feel the fast food industry has really tapped into some primitive animal insticts


[10-Jan-20 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
because I will just randomly think "damn, I want some chicken right now" and then go get it


[10-Jan-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
realize it really wasn't that good


[10-Jan-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
and then the process repeats itself the next week


[10-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just thankful fast food is so expensive


[10-Jan-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
BK's crispy chicken strips... I crave those


[10-Jan-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know they're like 50% bread and batter, but still


[10-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not kittens, it's chicken


[10-Jan-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s chittens


[10-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just try and remember what actually good food tastes like


[10-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
fight the urge with counter urges.


[10-Jan-20 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't have access to good food ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[10-Jan-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, I do,  but fuck me it's expensive


[10-Jan-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay marketing


[10-Jan-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
And not part of my meal plan, unlike fast food, which is


[10-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, what you don't have access to is a kitchen


[10-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cook everything in a coffee pot.


[10-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything.


[10-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the college way.


[10-Jan-20 10:37 PM] ononim#8141
But a lot fast food (at least here and which I eat) taste good too


[10-Jan-20 10:37 PM] ononim#8141
also glorious combos


[11-Jan-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/dPvK5p94rTA

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Star-Spangled Banner in Minor Key
This arrangement was based on Chase Holfelder's "The Star-Spangled Banner (Minor Key Version), but for flugelhorn and trumpet.  Because this election is so polarizing, I felt this chilling rendition of our national anthem was fitting.

The Star-Spangled Banner
Words by Franci...
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[11-Jan-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But... cis... is...


[11-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Never mind.


[11-Jan-20 12:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it hurt itself with ignorance. hopefully one day we will always have an unlimited source of knowledge at are fingertips one day.


[11-Jan-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
person was posting online


[11-Jan-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[11-Jan-20 12:53 AM] jlun2#8758
That sounds like an easy way to get people to vote against themselves; just use synonyms.


[11-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
cawffee pot


[11-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
> "I'll make 'em an offer they can't refuse" - US to the rest of the world


[11-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
getting godfather vibes from that, @byte[]


[11-Jan-20 01:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So Trump killed the Iranian general to woo over republicans for his impeachment defense?


[11-Jan-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
apparently


[11-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/2236993

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[11-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
weaponized twiggle for WW3


[11-Jan-20 02:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/spoxdhs/status/1215761236903645184?s=21

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Heather Swift, DHS spokesperson (@SpoxDHS)
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@RafaelCarranza @DHS_Wolf
Retweets
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Likes
1295
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Twitter


[11-Jan-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/trump-wants-nobel-peace-prize-days-after-war-crime-threat.html

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Trump Complains About Not Winning Nobel Peace Prize Days After War...
Other rally highlights included a claim that Dems would have “leaked” the Soleimani attack, and that M4A will cost “more money than we’ll ever make.”
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[11-Jan-20 02:48 AM] illumnious#7938
Baby


[11-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I should get as nobel peace prize! Give it to me or i'll commit more war crimes than you can count!"


[11-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/speedreads/888638/trump-now-says-climate-change-serious-not-hoax

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Trump now says climate change is 'serious' and not 'a hoax'
President Trump announced plans Thursday to change National Environmental Policy Act rules in order to make it easier to build gas pipelines and construct mines and highways.
As written now, the regulations require federal agencies to determine the environmental impact of suc...
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[11-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
> When asked by reporters on Thursday if he still believes climate change isn't real, Trump said, "No, no. Not all all. Nothing's a hoax. ... It's a very serious subject. The environment is very important to me. I'm a big believer in that word, the environment. ... I want clean air, I want clean water. I also want jobs, though."


[11-Jan-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... no, but you cant just make jobs revolving around cleaning the environment and fixing things, that wouldnt be cash oil for the industry, now would it


[11-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/uk/anne-sacoolas-extradition-harry-dunn-intl-gbr/index.html

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UK requests extradition of former US diplomat's wife accused in de...
Authorities in the United Kingdom have sent the US State Department an extradition request for Anne Sacoolas, the wife of a former US diplomat who has been charged with causing the death of a teenager in England.
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[11-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`The final decision on extradition is made by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.`


[11-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, no


[11-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`"Anne is devastated by this tragic accident and would do anything she could to bring Harry back. She continues to grieve for Harry and his family." Amy Jeffress, an attorney for Sacoolas, said. "The US government has made clear they will deny any extradition request and will uphold the longstanding agreement of diplomatic immunity between our two countries.`


[11-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would do anything... except face the mildest of legal consequences


[11-Jan-20 04:53 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/us/politics/des-moines-register-poll.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur

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Bernie Sanders Leads Tight Race in New Iowa Poll
Mr. Sanders edged out his competitors in The Des Moines Register/CNN poll released on Friday, the first significant survey from Iowa in nearly two months.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/10/us/politics/10Iowa-Poll-sanders/10Iowa-Poll-sanders-facebookJumbo.jpg


[11-Jan-20 05:01 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/iran-denies-that-ukrainian-airliner-was-shot-down-by-a-missile

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Iran denies that Ukrainian airliner was shot down by a missile
Iran’s civil aviation chief denied Friday that a missile downed a Ukrainian airliner which crashed killing all 176 people on board, rejecting Western claims of a catastrophic mistake by Tehran’s air defences. The cause of the crash is to be announced Saturday after an inv...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Screen-Shot-2020-01-09-at-12.17.03-PM-1000x600.png


[11-Jan-20 05:01 AM] illumnious#7938
like we don't know shit


[11-Jan-20 05:04 AM] illumnious#7938
bonus

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[11-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
```But a lot fast food (at least here and which I eat) taste good too```
same. No corporate McGarbage shit, but, for instance, really good grilled pork, chicken or mutton (of shashlyk variety) from some guys who know their stuff. Yum.


[11-Jan-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
we have such fast casual chains


[11-Jan-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
but they are more than twice as expensive as regular fast food


[11-Jan-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
as someone who is not inherently well-off, I really can't justify eating there more than a few times a month


[11-Jan-20 05:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-admits-shot-down-ukrainian-airlines-flight-blaming-human-error-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Iran admits it shot down Ukrainian Airlines flight 752, blaming hu...
On Saturday morning, the Joint Armed Forces released a statement.
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[11-Jan-20 05:06 AM] illumnious#7938
human error?


[11-Jan-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
HUMAN ERROR?!


[11-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Codeword for "some dumbass thought it was a good idea"


[11-Jan-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
good point


[11-Jan-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
similar here, although for me the more pressing issue is, I prefer cooking for myself. Shashlyk is one of those things requiring more than an apartment kitchen to do right, so I'm simply unable to do that. Works as a reward food, in a sence.


[11-Jan-20 05:09 AM] illumnious#7938
*In these circumstances, the plane was accidentally hit by a human error, which unfortunately results in the martyrdom of dear compatriots and the death of a number of foreign national*


[11-Jan-20 05:09 AM] illumnious#7938
dumbass


[11-Jan-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I have a kitchen accessible to me


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I do not have raw materials accessible to me


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it's like the university is just making fun of me


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, here's a kitchen but fuck you, you can't cook anything


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A kitchen for making cold sandwiches.


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it's got stoves and ovens


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and all sorts of utensils and pans


[11-Jan-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and there is no market anywhere nearby

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[11-Jan-20 05:12 AM] illumnious#7938
geez


[11-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1h ago Iran was saying it was "absurd lies", now they admit it


[11-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big hrmms


[11-Jan-20 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
error


[11-Jan-20 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
well goddam shit


[11-Jan-20 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
that's just cruel as shit


[11-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Teaspoon well, 1 hour ago the decision 'oh god what do we do now' hasn't been made.  By now it has been, and a scapegoat was identified.


[11-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
also likely that people from before were simply instructed on what to say, and stuck with it until further notice.


[11-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think Sanders could make it eight years


[11-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden probably can't make it 4


[11-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact anyone is willing to consider him should really, really tell you how utterly racist America is.


[11-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd rather hav a president die of old age in office than one who would giv blakk people equal rights.


[11-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signals-hed-seek-to-block-impeachment-trial-testimony-from-bolton-others

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Trump signals he’d seek to block impeachment trial testimony fro...
President Trump indicated in an exclusive interview with Fox News' "The Ingraham Angle" that he would use executive privilege to block former national security adviser John Bolton and other administration officials from testifying in his Senate impeachment trial if necessary.
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[11-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>impeached for obstruction of congress


[11-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>explicitly states he's going to obstruct congress


[11-Jan-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
laws don't matter


[11-Jan-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody will enforce them


[11-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A president dying of old age in office wouldn't be that bad.


[11-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be if their VP was terrible


[11-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Combining VP and P into one tikket was a mistake.


[11-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally speaking, bundling is a mistake.


[11-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's better than the original


[11-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Clinton were Trump's VP


[11-Jan-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd rather hav "Lynch the gays" Pence?


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wouldn't do shit if he were in office. No Republican is considering him for a higher office.


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
the VP decides ties


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the Senate


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence being VP actually matters


[11-Jan-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pence has the charisma of a foam pillow.


[11-Jan-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was going to lose the next gubernatorial election, that's why he got the job as VP.


[11-Jan-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP legitimately wants a Trump dynasty despite how unpopular those are in the US


[11-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Fox news is giving me stomavh ache that interview with Trump is just...


[11-Jan-20 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
they do call ulcer one of the most social deseases, you get to experience why :P


[11-Jan-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz, Bernie/Yang 2020


[11-Jan-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, what if bernie as president and warren as senate majority leader


[11-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
HAHA WHOOPS HEY SORRY GUYS WE THOUGHT THE PLANE HAD AMERICANS


[11-Jan-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOOKED LIKE BIG SPY PLANE


[11-Jan-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
COULD CARRY MANY BOMB


[11-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2020/01/09/don-jr-and-ivanka-trump-intentionally-inflated-numbers-to-defraud-condo-buyers-report/

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Don Jr. and Ivanka Trump “inflated numbers” to defraud buyers:...
The eldest Trump kids bragged that no one would find out they were misleading prospective buyers, a new book claims
https://media.salon.com/2018/12/ivanka-trumpjr.jpg


[11-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't want Yang as president yet


[11-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want him in a prominent position in a 2020 Democrats' cabinet


[11-Jan-20 08:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel the same about Buttigieg


[11-Jan-20 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren ehh idk


[11-Jan-20 08:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Secretary of State maybe?


[11-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hold a belief that the best thing a president can do once elected is make his opponents his allies


[11-Jan-20 09:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/brett-mcgurk-iraq-withdraw-create-vacuum-for-isis-iran-russia-2020-1

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Pulling out of Iraq would create a vacuum for ISIS, Iran, and Russ...
Withdrawing from Iraq would open a vacuum for rivals to fill, Brett McGurk, the former US envoy to the anti-ISIS mission, said this week.
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[11-Jan-20 10:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/trump-iran-yemen.html

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By Eric Schmitt, Edward Wong and Julian E. Barnes
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/trump-iran-yemen.html
U.S. Unsuccessfully Tried Killing a Second Iranian Military Official
A failed airstrike in Yemen was aimed at Abdul Reza Shahlai, an official with Iran’s Quds Force and an organizer of financing for regional militias supported by Iran.
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[11-Jan-20 10:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Jan-20 11:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Anther assassination oh boy


[11-Jan-20 02:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just pull out of Iraq, Iran had more successes than we ever had in that country.


[11-Jan-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51068774
https://howlonghasnorthernirelandnothadagovernment.com/

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Main NI parties agree power-sharing deal
Sinn Féin and the DUP back a deal to restart the devolved government after three years of deadlock.
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How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?
How long has Northern Ireland not had a government?

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[11-Jan-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/labor-slowdown-we-might-be-missing-morning-brief-105826643.html

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The labor slowdown we might be missing: Morning Brief
Top news and what to watch in the markets on Friday, January 10, 2020.
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[11-Jan-20 03:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This is actually what got the DUP to change their minds.
https://external-preview.redd.it/_8y3BsZ0rgsc4ZWXxKn1iTcwvNsHRNDLI8wbS3_J5Rc.png?auto=webp&s=88c3bcdf3535eace35f59e17b96dd9c21747d125

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[11-Jan-20 04:21 PM] Opponent#3498
what is MLA?


[11-Jan-20 04:22 PM] Opponent#3498
from the 'no government in ireland' timer page.


[11-Jan-20 04:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
MLA. Member of Legislative Assembly.


[11-Jan-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
that's like a government substitute?


[11-Jan-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
honestly no idea how NI works.


[11-Jan-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-population-growth-lowest-since-1918-negative-economic-impact-demographics-2020-1

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US population growth is the lowest its been since 1918. Here's why...
The US population barely grew in 2019, amounting to a 0.48% trickle unseen in a century. It carries major economic implications for the nation's...
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[11-Jan-20 04:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It's a devolved government with devolved powers of certain areas of the law. Northern Ireland also has MPs which are part of the main united kingdom government which is mostly just Englands MPs. certain parts of the law can be changed by MLAs but only the parts that have been devolved to them from the main government which is made up of a huge majority of English MPs. It is a shitshow.


[11-Jan-20 05:05 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  
> But the group engineered a possible solution harnessing the natural pull of immigration. It proposed a "heartland visa" program that would encourage immigrants to settle in struggling communities hollowed out by workers seeking better opportunities in larger, thriving cities.
Aren't small towns like ~80% white? <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4606139/> I highly doubt that would be popular.


[11-Jan-20 05:06 PM] jlun2#8758

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[11-Jan-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
what's right isn't always what's popular


[11-Jan-20 05:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
IMO it seems much less a problem of race and more a problem of ownership. Again, the conversation of immigration falls within the economic spectrum of people as a commodity: a tool to do labor. And where there is a shortage of this commodity, people power, is where people should go. And so: that's where the migrants should be because we've reduced them so far from being a people, to being a labor commodity like a hammer, a nail, or a barrel of oil.


[11-Jan-20 05:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
But frankly I'd say you shouldn't be moving to the coasts anyways, let alone the west coast like the Bay Area because even though there's the pull of high wages there is the trap of high living expenses. Stay at home and have a higher quality of life over-all if even you get a lower salaried position for the same job you'd do in California


[11-Jan-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main reason it;s not popular is that corporations seek minorities because it;s cheap labor while convincing their non immigrant workers that it;s the minorities fault they lost their job when it;s the company themselves who made the decision and pulled the trigger
In turn housing markets have also lobbied against specific types of housing to make immigration as inconvenient as possible because multiple families can't have properties on the same lot as each other despite it being more cost effective and affordable.


[11-Jan-20 05:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated: https://newpol.org/the-pmc-does-not-exist-and-why-it-matters-for-socialists

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The “PMC” Does Not Exist and Why it Matters for Socialists
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[11-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-costs-administration-idUSKBN1Z5261

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More than a third of U.S. healthcare costs go to bureaucracy
(Reuters Health) - U.S. insurers and providers spent more than $800 billion in 2...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200106&t=2&i=1473065967&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG051OJ


[11-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
> U.S. insurers and providers spent more than $800 billion in 2017 on administration, or nearly $2,500 per person - more than four times the per-capita administrative costs in Canada’s single-payer system, a new study finds.


[11-Jan-20 05:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
I love running essential services for profit meaning that most of all that I spend goes to executive salaries, share-holder portfolios, and marketing costs. It makes me feel free af


[11-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.md/KGvY7

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Sen. Thom Tillis: Iran War Powers Resolution is dangerous, returns...
archived 11 Jan 2020 16:42:41 UTC
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[11-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
> Sen. Thom Tillis: Iran War Powers Resolution is dangerous, returns us to appeasement posture


[11-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[11-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've ever seen anything so blatantly hawkish before


[11-Jan-20 05:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, you mean the way this article is written?


[11-Jan-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But if congress has the power to deny war, how will we the war hawk party, profit off war and instability!?"


[11-Jan-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/1/9/21058332/australia-fires-arson-lightning-explained

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The viral false claim that nearly 200 arsonists are behind the Aus...
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[11-Jan-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
not just the way the article is written, I mean the title as well


[11-Jan-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
the topic


[11-Jan-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
the whole idea that brinkmanship is somehow less dangerous than diplomacy, aka "appeasement"


[11-Jan-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to these people a show of crushing strength is safer than a show of attempted peace. You have to get them before they get you even if it plunges your country into war. This is safer than diplomacy because it's simpler and easier to achieve.


[11-Jan-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Brinkmanship is safer to them because it lets them hold enemies at gun point one sided and make terroristic demands that come with profit, instead of diplomacy where both sides share responsibility and work together to achieve peace or at least the ability to leave each other alone.


[11-Jan-20 06:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I legitimately had a conversation the other day with someone who tried to make the argument that the only two viable options for dealing with the middle east were an overnight cold-turkey departure from the region and *using nukes* for "strategic bombings"


[11-Jan-20 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Said person was also sure that the only reason Vietnam was a failure was because we "weren't allowed" to bomb certain cultural sites


[11-Jan-20 06:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so, uh, no. I don't particularly see the above article as being the most hawkish thing I've ever seen


[11-Jan-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
things can get much mroe hawkish and likely will


[11-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with trump random number generating a new solemaini killing excuse every 3 minutes


[11-Jan-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/665580694306553866/1578710878648.png

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[11-Jan-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
much freedom, many colors, wow


[11-Jan-20 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
this is basically living in the US in a nutshell, everyone says you have a lot of freedom, but the degrees of freedom are extremely limited by your wealth status (if you don't make at least 6 figures, you basically have no freedom in the US)


[11-Jan-20 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/nytimesbusiness/status/1215451329197494283

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https://twitter.com/nytimesbusiness/status/1215451329197494283
Would you put your family on a Max simulator-trained aircraft? I wouldn’t,” one employee said to a colleague.  “No,” the colleague responded.  https://t.co/9dVWYgEyJJ
Twitter


[11-Jan-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TrayBridgewater/status/1215700549724770304?s=20

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Tray Bridgewater 🐣 (@TrayBridgewater)
https://twitter.com/TrayBridgewater/status/1215700549724770304?s=20
I can't pay my rent, none of my friends have health insurance, my sister cannot get paid time off to care for her newborn baby, and my girlfriend's insulin is twice what she could reasonably pay for it. https://t.co/0kc77rKQSO
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[11-Jan-20 06:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ur just lazy :BoomerIan:


[11-Jan-20 06:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow Lol.
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At USSR airline you have a variety of choices for your food!
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[11-Jan-20 07:41 PM] Opponent#3498
```Said person was also sure that the only reason Vietnam was a failure was because we "weren't allowed" to bomb certain cultural sites```
I've heard that before, as well as 'gradual build-up and half-measures instead of overwhelming force from day one'


[11-Jan-20 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess people who said that aren't all that familiar with Korean war. Which, from what I understood, was more or less that, 'kill them until there's none left to fight' strat, and yet it still failed in the end.


[11-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
technically it only failed because china intervened and had overwhelming numbers


[11-Jan-20 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
if china hadn't intervened, there'd be a united korea today


[11-Jan-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/665613016737251328/a6dda3f38babb5842f45f4690f499afc.png

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[11-Jan-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[11-Jan-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
do these people not realize how unbelievably lucky they got


[11-Jan-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
one thing that's conspicuously absent is the time period this happened


[11-Jan-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
well no. She clarifies.


[11-Jan-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
1990.


[11-Jan-20 07:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile ICH just gutted CollegeHumor because it wasn't profitable enough and now all its content creators are out of a job


[11-Jan-20 07:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.businessinsider.com/iac-sells-collegehumor-layoffs-media-2020-1

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CollegeHumor's parent company pulled its funding, laying off more ...
IAC left longtime CollegeHumor veteran Sam Reich to run the company by himself, making him the majority owner.
https://image.businessinsider.com/5e16560f24fe126aed2b7eed?width=1200&format=jpeg


[11-Jan-20 07:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Seriously, look at this company's website. It's about as corporate as you can get. There's still an image showing the CH stock next to a giant globe on the "investors" category because this only happened a couple days ago https://www.iac.com/


[11-Jan-20 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I found out about this via Drawfee


[11-Jan-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, where does she clarify? I found the first tweet, but can't find the second one https://twitter.com/JackiePeters55/status/1215670305190031362

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@CNBCnow @SteveScalise For those who say this doesn’t affect them, it does.  You may not invest in the stock market, but perhaps your employer does, and if they make more money, it can be passed down to the employees.
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[11-Jan-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
and looking at her tweet history, both tweets are conspicuously absent


[11-Jan-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
not sure if there's a way to hide specific tweets or not


[11-Jan-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
I found this one by googling her twitter handle


[11-Jan-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
even though this tweet doesn't show up on her page


[11-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not seeing a 1990 in there, and even if there was, the corporate ladder hadnt been de-runged yet. That;s a particularly 2000's and up development in the job market


[11-Jan-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also good luck living on $6.50 an hour these days


[11-Jan-20 07:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
College Humour has running downhill fast for a while. nothing surprising.


[11-Jan-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm.


[11-Jan-20 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
I can't find the specific thread I've seen it in.


[11-Jan-20 08:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I spilled a bean from that sentence.


[11-Jan-20 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
she looks like she's in her 60's too, on top of the fact that she said she made "$100,000 plus bonus"... in 11 years


[11-Jan-20 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
$100,000 in 11 years is $9090.91 a year


[11-Jan-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
aren't most lower skill jobs contracted off now?


[11-Jan-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
kinda hard to go up then


[11-Jan-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
unless you want to be a contract supervisor I guess


[11-Jan-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498

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[11-Jan-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
found it.


[11-Jan-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Crow I assume she meant to say 100k/y after 11y worth of progress.


[11-Jan-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
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[11-Jan-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
scroll down on this branch


[11-Jan-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent I have a degree and can't even get a dishwashing job in summer wtf


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JackiePeters55/status/1216000621255581699

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@SHlNlGAMii @CNBCnow @SteveScalise When I left that job, I took 6 months off to decide what to do for the rest of my working years.  Asked myself, what brings joy to my life? Dogs.  So I researched the pet industry, and with a few months of training became a dog groomer.  ...
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[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
You also need a degree and years of experience to enter data apparently


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
> When I left that job, I took 6 months off to decide what to do for the rest of my working years.


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
SIX MONTHS OFF????


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
out of touch rich


[11-Jan-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
no, she's 100% a person who's never had to pay bills before


[11-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
she might've had the jobs (I'm still questioning whether she's actually had these jobs or just made up the numbers), but she's never actually had to spend that money on stuff essential to living before


[11-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
she most likely had some place to stay that didn't charge her rent, like friends or family or something


[11-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Opponent#3498
that last one is likely, yeah.


[11-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Opponent#3498
made up, ehh, maybe not.


[11-Jan-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
is she a boomer


[11-Jan-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably gen x


[11-Jan-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
if not, then boomerism is spreading


[11-Jan-20 08:14 PM] jlun2#8758
and soon we will look at gen alpha with disdain


[11-Jan-20 08:14 PM] jlun2#8758
and vote trump 2.0


[11-Jan-20 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not considering we'll connect with them more in terms of circumstance


[11-Jan-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
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[11-Jan-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
that's her pfp


[11-Jan-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
so yeah, either gen x or boomer


[11-Jan-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
more likely gen x than boomer


[11-Jan-20 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of boomer disdain for millenials is they were raised in a time when things were really fucking good, so they look at millenials struggling and just see lazy fucks who dot want to work as hardf as they did for far less of a pay check


[11-Jan-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast the extremely ignorant ones


[11-Jan-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boomers come in several tiers though


[11-Jan-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) i see groups of people as the same tho


[11-Jan-20 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
gen x is some weird mixture of people more like millennials and people more like boomers


[11-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
but are overall not very active politically


[11-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
gen z and the younger millennials are very active politically, but the older millennials seem to be more jaded like gen x is


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
According to this definition, the oldest millennial is 39 years old and the youngest is, or is turning, 24 years old in 2020


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow "active" as in they complain on social media a lot, or as in voting?


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
voting


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voting, protesting, and general politicalness


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
political activism, etc


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[11-Jan-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't be politically active when you have bills to pay and realize pensions won't be a thing when you retire in 20-30 years


[11-Jan-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soemday i shall retire peacefully to my box under a bridge soemwhere


[11-Jan-20 08:22 PM] jlun2#8758
huh. TIL. I keep seeing articles on young people never voting to the point voting makes me feel like some  odd one out.


[11-Jan-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Sorry boss, gonna take a day off to go to a political rally" "Cool, we'll dump your stuff in the 2nd garbage container so you know where to find them tomorrow"


[11-Jan-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i vote in most elections


[11-Jan-20 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most companies despise the idea of voting days being national holidays because it means more people get a chance to turn agaisnt them politically


[11-Jan-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
bernie's supporters are basically mostly millennials and gen z, and millennials are starting to wake up a bit and stretch their political wings, which is why a lot of the most recent stuff is pointing towards bernie being a lot higher than predicted as it gets closer to the primaries


[11-Jan-20 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
it's not even companies, politicians themselves don't want voting to be easy because the entire politician benefits system is predicated on the voters having little to no oversight


[11-Jan-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope this recent turn around for bernie actually does get him nominated


[11-Jan-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would hate voting for biden evne if i had to to get trump out of office


[11-Jan-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden also represents part of why trump won last election, he brings nothing to the table and promises only status quo with no beneficial changes


[11-Jan-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump atleast had the appeal of hooking in people desperate for change even if it was from the lions eat your face party


[11-Jan-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted he won electoral college so even that;s questionable on his end


[11-Jan-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing hillary really brought to the table was insults about trump and bernie sanders, and vague empty promises about being obama 2.0 with wallstreet friends


[11-Jan-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also declaring that she was owed presidency in multiple speeches because she conceded to obama the previous election


[11-Jan-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly joe biden brings a lot of that back to the table minus the "i;m owed this" bit


[11-Jan-20 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh Joe has the advantage of having a penis, so any flub he does is immediately less than if a woman does it


[11-Jan-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, he's male hillary


[11-Jan-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the same box, now with a dick in it


[11-Jan-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
he's worse than hillary though because he won't actually fix much of what trump broke


[11-Jan-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
well, hillary wouldn't either


[11-Jan-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
> all the same box, now with a dick in it
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[11-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
literally the only candidate that is trustworthy enough to fix all of the cracks that have existed in the US government since its inception which trump's raw sewage is now leaking through is bernie


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  wont republicans do anything to block Bernie though


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
you have to recognize that despite the total legislative meltdown we've had over the past decade, the president still can't make laws


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's what the congressional electios are for


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
and so even if Biden becomes the nominee, which it seems like he probably will


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it's still fine to vote for him


[11-Jan-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
vote for your congressperson


[11-Jan-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is essentially the eat the lions that ate your faces election


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
you know that pretty much all of the presidents after trump will take advantage of the same things trump has done right? none of them would want to fix the problem


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I didn't say they won't use expansive powers


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
just that they can't make laws


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders' plans depend on laws


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
vote for Sanders in the primary, I would much prefer to see him as the nominee


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
but it's okay if he doesn't get the primary vote


[11-Jan-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh does it matter if they can't make laws if what they're doing bypasses the law entirely


[11-Jan-20 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, trump's basically bypassing the law, and half of the branch that's supposed to body check the president if they try to do that (the senate) is allowing it to happen unabated


[11-Jan-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's got enough toadies throughout every branch of the government that are willing to work under the table that it might as well be "deep state," even though it is just a gestalt of surface-level corruption


[11-Jan-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause it's the judicial branch as well


[11-Jan-20 08:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the GOP has been trying for *ages* to stack the courts because it's the one thing they couldn't control


[11-Jan-20 08:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And now we're at the point where the AG can run laps around the federal courts and SCOTUS because the executive branch has turned itself into a miniature version of the dictatorship they desperately want for the whole system


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
unitary executive + loyalists willing to do stuff not in the job description = fascism


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Laughs on them when FDRs dream comes to pass.


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
15 justices


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe more


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thig is, all of that is supported by a single fragile support beam


[11-Jan-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump


[11-Jan-20 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
every dictatorship is balanced on the head of a pin


[11-Jan-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Without Trump there;s no focal point to keep thme united and they'll eat eachother


[11-Jan-20 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the thing is, in this case, there is a backup plan in the form of Mike Pence. And it's turtles all the way down from there


[11-Jan-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump loses this upcoming election. their entire system fails


[11-Jan-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pence cant do shit int he case of an election loss


[11-Jan-20 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's working off the assumption that if Trump loses, it will be an uncontestable loss


[11-Jan-20 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He will not go quietly


[11-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
I shudder to imagine what happens when he loses, no joke.


[11-Jan-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no he wont, we;re expecting a fight


[11-Jan-20 08:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because it's not just him, either; even if every Republican whose seat is being contested loses as well, you've still got enough incumbents around to make life hell in Congress


[11-Jan-20 08:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're past the point of no return on partisanship


[11-Jan-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony even after boomers die?


[11-Jan-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, see, that's just it. Even if the people die, they've passed their ideology on


[11-Jan-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just look at PragerU and TPUSA


[11-Jan-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
those kids have been and are being raised to believe that the liberal agenda is a real thing that's out to get them


[11-Jan-20 08:57 PM] jlun2#8758
oh right. rip


[11-Jan-20 08:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's *there* that some of Trump's most fanatical speeches have taken place


[11-Jan-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
so christain right is eternal, I presume ?


[11-Jan-20 08:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, that is not as straightforward an answer as you're expecting


[11-Jan-20 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because as it stands, there is now a *massive* ideological split between being a good christian and being a good republican, and evangelicals are being forced to choose


[11-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
PragerU isn't that great of a propaganda outlet. They're too ridiculous, I'd expect them only work to reaffirm existing beliefs (and alleviate the fears of boomers maybe)


[11-Jan-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
PragerU is extremely effective


[11-Jan-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they only seem ridiculous because you're outside the bubble


[11-Jan-20 09:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Think about it - if your only sources of information were Fox, Trump himself, Washington Examiner, and PragerU...well, PU is just an infographics channel that distills everything the others are saying into a format that Makes Sense™️


[11-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
well, if you lack any other information and any desire to try and get it, yes.


[11-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta believe something, and if that's all you got...


[11-Jan-20 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, no, there *is* no desire to get information. The media is lying, you see. Trump said so. Better to wait and see what the outcome is, because this is what Fox says it will be, and they're right


[11-Jan-20 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the propaganda isn't about misinformation. It's about changing the way people *think* about information


[11-Jan-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you can convince someone to be skeptical of the truth, you don't even need to lie to them anymore


[11-Jan-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> Because as it stands, there is now a massive ideological split between being a good christian and being a good republican, and evangelicals are being forced to choose
I always thought they'd find an excuse to redefine what does "good christian" mean, but k


[11-Jan-20 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just look at the divisions going on with evangelical magazines having editorials criticizing trump


[11-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, but this isn't PragerU stuff. From what I've seen of them, it's typical MAGA stuff, racism, US first, heir to western civilisation defined by 'peaceful enlightning Britich Empire' (however that works I'll never know). Capitalism good, socialism bad. Etc, all of this. I don't remember them ever pushing 'everyone is lying to you' angle.


[11-Jan-20 09:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That angle is a necessary underpinning for such white lies. the British Empire thing especially


[11-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Opponent#3498
if I tried to explain the concept of 'boomer' to someone, I'd point them at PragerU. I think that's the idea.


[11-Jan-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
> I don't remember them ever pushing 'everyone is lying to you' angle.


[11-Jan-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I can source this, give me a few minutes


[11-Jan-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
it's from your favorite buddy Ben


[11-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
...my favourite buddy Ben?


[11-Jan-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
feet boi


[11-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[11-Jan-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMYCnI5kz0>
> Imagine a group of activists so powerful that they could beam their propaganda directly into your brain.
> Now also imagine that they’re so sophisticated, they actually get you to pay them to do it.
> Unfortunately, you don’t have to imagine it.
> It’s real.
> It’s Hollywood.


[11-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, but I'm still confused at how that connection was made.


[11-Jan-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
stuff like this


[11-Jan-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not "everyone is lying to you" it's a slow chip away at the people who are represented as trustworthy


[11-Jan-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
> they could beam their propaganda directly into your brain
:nut:


[11-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
right. So this exists. I suppose I could only bear so much of their brand of stupid, so I missed this gem.


[11-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
```Hollywood Wants Your Money...and Your Mind```


[11-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
:nut:


[11-Jan-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
Isn't that just advertisement industry? Also I agree on :nut:


[11-Jan-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
note: I didn't actually know this because of watching the video


[11-Jan-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I know it because of YTPs made of it


[11-Jan-20 09:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, the thing about white lies is that if you tell only the part of the story that makes you look good, it means anything else that anyone could say about the story is *bad.* So it doesn't take much to point to that as evidence that everyone else only has bad things to say about the "good guys" they're giving you citable sources on to back up that spin


[11-Jan-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
political wise, do right wingers have some monopoly on edgy clickbait videos?


[11-Jan-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[11-Jan-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
liberals generally don't watch those kinds of videos


[11-Jan-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[11-Jan-20 09:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The closest thing I can think of in terms of liberal clickbait is, like, Rachel Maddow or left-wing satire


[11-Jan-20 09:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but you can tell within 5 seconds of starting one of those videos that it's an entirely different approach


[11-Jan-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
compare and contrast Tim Pool with, say, a Stephen Colbert monologue


[11-Jan-20 09:17 PM] jlun2#8758
I feel like some of the frequent posters here could probably make living-ish doing liberal clickbait sometimes


[11-Jan-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another conservative piece is that since everyone commits crimes, especially presidents. you should ignore all crimes made of any present and future presidents because calling them out on their crimes is a double standard unless the president is democratic.


[11-Jan-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
both sides are bad so vote republican


[11-Jan-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump shouldnt be impeached because obama wasn't impeached!


[11-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 they really couldn't


[11-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not just a viewpoint gap it's a mentality gap


[11-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
liberals assess reality in ways that are incompatible with how conservatives asses it


[11-Jan-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to brign this to a crime perspective, liberals assess the weight of crimes, while conservatives assess that it happened at all


[11-Jan-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
not really


[11-Jan-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
it's more nuanced than that


[11-Jan-20 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i may need to find better wording than that...


[11-Jan-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's more like
liberals would assess the evidence supporting the fact that a crime was committed before passing judgement
conservatives would assume the defendant was guilty of <serious thing> and would be unlikely to assess any evidence


[11-Jan-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
but that's again not nuanced enough to really capture it


[11-Jan-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Jan-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
OIL FOR THE MONEY GODS!


[11-Jan-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
FIRE FOR THE PEASANTS!


[11-Jan-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
"hehe so you hate group of people just because they're racists, who hate gender and sexual minorities, despise the poor, and actively make it so that they lives are as hard as possible?"
"**Yes**"

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[11-Jan-20 09:32 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I often assume the worst of others; I hope I don't become a boomer now when I go older.


[11-Jan-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
too late, the boomer is already inside you


[11-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```liberals would assess the evidence supporting the fact that a crime was committed before passing judgement
conservatives would assume the defendant was guilty of <serious thing> and would be unlikely to assess any evidence```


[11-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/YrGyWp9.gif

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It's already too late!
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[11-Jan-20 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Boomer isn't a physical characteristic, but a state of mind.


[11-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
ironically enough, SJWs, 'court of public opinion' etc, all that fun stuff operates strictly under the latter principle. You're guilty as soon as an accusation is put forward.


[11-Jan-20 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ben Shapiro is *spiritually* a boomer.


[11-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
even though they were born out of liberal crowd, as far as I understood it.


[11-Jan-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
They're going to become super conservative boomers once they reach 65.


[11-Jan-20 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXIRhggmhg
US foreign policy in the Middle East be like

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Blood for the blood god
A Khorne Berserker gets a little too into the moment
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[11-Jan-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
well, at least it's better than this...


[11-Jan-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrUWUGlFjw

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Bruva Alfabusa
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Carron being Carron
This is a stupid filler video with sentient turrets and hilariously awful voicelines.

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[11-Jan-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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Lmao this is a right wing meme and now I can officially say the right can meme... For the left. 

This is amazing
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[11-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[11-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-syria-oil-war-crime-isis-assad-fox-news-a9279381.html

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Trump doubles down on threat to take oil from Syria
President cuts off Fox News interviewer who appears to try to cover over his admission
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[11-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Donald Trump has renewed his threats to forcibly steal oil from Syria, a move which experts say would amount to a war crime.

The president defended his decision to leave a small number of American troops in the war-torn nation after a general withdrawal in October by claiming they were only there to secure Syria’s oilfields.

“They say he left troops in Syria... do you know what I did? I took the oil,” he said during a Fox News interview.

“The only troops I have are taking the oil, they are protecting the oil.”

When the interviewer, Laura Ingraham, attempted to correct Mr Trump by insisting the soldiers were not there to take the oil but to guard the facilities, the president cut her off.

“I don’t know, maybe we should take it, but we have the oil. Right now, the United States has the oil. We have the oil.”`


[11-Jan-20 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
literal comic book villain


[11-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`This is not the first time the erratic former business tycoon has publicly mused about stealing Syria’s oil reserves.

In October, shortly after his abrupt withdrawal of US forces and abandoning of their Kurdish allies in the region, Mr Trump said he wanted an American oil firm to fly in to tap Syria’s oil on behalf of the government.

“What I intend to do, perhaps, is make a deal with an ExxonMobil or one of our great companies to go in there and do it properly,” he said.`


[11-Jan-20 10:38 PM] ononim#8141
there's that one interview with Assad where he says what Trump is the best US president because he's honest and just stright up says what he actually thinks


[11-Jan-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We already had one of those, Truman.


[11-Jan-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Best US president for Syria, mind


[11-Jan-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
trump has no idea how impractical this is lol


[11-Jan-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He already murdered his ties with other countries, guess it;s time to murder his ties with his GOP allies and his corrupt world leader allies too


[11-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO3MttgvHUY

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Soulstorm - Firaeveus Carron and the Metal Boxes
Carron's reaction to the Blood Raven transports during their stronghold mission.
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[11-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
bit late, but yeah


[11-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[11-Jan-20 11:07 PM] illumnious#7938
*rolled eyes* https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1214957854022623235

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"As long as I am President of the United States, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon." https://t.co/7lzGY5fWz3
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[11-Jan-20 11:07 PM] illumnious#7938
shut the fuck up


[11-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
it would be hilarious if iran announced they had a nuclear weapon


[11-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
it'd be a huge "womp womp" moment


[11-Jan-20 11:08 PM] illumnious#7938
up next, this https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-ranked-worst-president-215700182.html?soc_src=community

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[11-Jan-20 11:09 PM] ononim#8141
No more nukes


[11-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Their "announcement" would likely not be through a press release


[11-Jan-20 11:09 PM] illumnious#7938
let's bring the fucking clown music


[11-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
iirc iran claimed that as soon as they had their first working nuke, they'd immediately nuke israel


[11-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
or at least that was what fox news and the like were saying iran said


[11-Jan-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I get the feeling Trump's entire family is going to be on lockdown for the next decade, if I were a the defacto-dictator of a theocracy with 40 years of pent up aggression towards the US and a decent casus belli, Ivanka would be the number one target


[11-Jan-20 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
I seriously wonder how much more the secret service is going to be forced to pay trump's businesses in order to protect him after he stops being president


[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
since the secret service keeps protecting former presidents


[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
Secret service was _paying_ his businesses?


[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216114167108849665 wait did he use Google Translator for this LOL

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به مردم شجاع و رنج کشیده ایران: من از ابتدای دوره ریاست جمهوریم با شما ایستاده‌ام و دولت من همچنان با شما خواهد ایستاد. ما اعتراضات شما را از نزدیک دنبا...
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[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
**nice.**


[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
also, yeah, he likely did.


[11-Jan-20 11:12 PM] illumnious#7938
HAHA


[11-Jan-20 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
To the brave and suffering Iranian people: I have stood with you since the beginning of the presidency and my government will continue to stand with you. We will protest you closely ...


[11-Jan-20 11:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't be suprised if the typo was there in the original as well.


[11-Jan-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fuck you,
Your best franz tramp


[11-Jan-20 11:13 PM] illumnious#7938
hehe


[11-Jan-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Alternative translation for that line is "We closely follow your dispute ..."


[11-Jan-20 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, the secret service has to pay to stay at trump's resorts


[11-Jan-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So it may not actually be borne from a typo


[11-Jan-20 11:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/awstar11/status/1216114470054813697?s=20

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@realDonaldTrump Bing vs. Google translate
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[11-Jan-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Did trump just try and pull a maga on iranians?


[11-Jan-20 11:18 PM] illumnious#7938
yes


[11-Jan-20 11:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216120362230067202

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The government of Iran must allow human rights groups to monitor and report facts from the ground on the ongoing protests by the Iranian people. There can not be another massacre of peaceful protesters, nor an internet shutdown. The world is watching.
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[11-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
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[11-Jan-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who can actually type in in the language are calling his bullshit so hard


[11-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder

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Shelby County v. Holder
Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013), is a landmark United States Supreme Court case regarding the constitutionality of two provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965: Section 5, which requires certain states and local governments to obtain federal preclearance befor...


[11-Jan-20 11:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump still jerking off with that stopid-ass wall of his https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216105951905882113

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The powerful Trump Wall is replacing porous, useless and ineffective barriers in the high traffic areas requested by Border Patrol. Illegal crossing are dropping as more and more Wall is being completed! #BuildingTheWall
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[11-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
> Research shows that preclearance led to increases in minority congressional representation and increases in minority turnout. Five years after the ruling, nearly 1,000 polling places had been closed in the U.S., with many of the closed polling places in predominantly African-American counties. Research shows that the changing of voter locations and reduction in voting locations can reduce voter turnout. There were also cuts to early voting, purges of voter rolls and imposition of strict voter ID laws. Virtually all restrictions on voting subsequent to the ruling were by Republicans.


[11-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[11-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voter suppression is a key tenet of the Republican party.


[11-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know if the Vic Mignona stuff goes here and not really been following it closely but


[11-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind this is a defamation lawsuit for people calling him a pedo.


[11-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Jan-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was this on the cheeks or the lips?


[11-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the "Is Barack Obama black?" thing.


[11-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither is really okay.


[11-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kiss on the cheek is la bise, Its


[11-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is very much an argument for it being okay with kids.


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
(that is, that it's not sexual)


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because in soem countries a kiss on the cheeks is an actuall greeting


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like cheek kisses are fine for any ages


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as for kiss on the lips


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
there's some countries where a kiss on the lips is a greeting too, but I'm pretty sure that's strictly between adults


[11-Jan-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
If there is no tongue involved


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
it *can* be non-sexual, but you kinda hav to hav some kind of relationship going on like parent-child


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise, my presumption would be you're doing it sexually.


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, kissing with tongue involved is universally sexual in human cultures


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's other stuff here that made it kind of sexual I believe


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the behavior of the parties and the general public with this case is reprehensible


[11-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People have been sending the judges death threats


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
geeze


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont evne have enough context for this case to have a solid opinion


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't be sure on that, @Crow, but it'd be a big rarity for something that likely to spread disease to be okay outside of lovers.


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
and who are those people sending the judge death threats?


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Me either just heard bits plus this depo is funny


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People supporting Vic I think


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sidenote, IIRC there's some tribe of people in siberia that like, hav moms kiss their baby son's penises


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
hmm


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably super fans of vic


[11-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
as a way to stop them crying.


[11-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
I've not seen a single instance of a human culture which has or had non-sexual tongue kissing


[11-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in said tribe, a kiss on the lips is considered deeply not okay.


[11-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd hav to look that one up.


[11-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, Manchu


[11-Jan-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the you get to forehead kisses


[11-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
A bit further south than Siberia.


[11-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Manchu consider kissing purely sexual, but allow it below the age of 10 for boys.


[11-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And lovers kissing is considered incredibly shameful.


[11-Jan-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the genital kissing thing with children apparently extends to girls too.


[11-Jan-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, @Itsthinking I really find the whole thing silly


[11-Jan-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the statement that's alleged to be defamation is being a pedo, the questions should be highly directly attakking that.


[11-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Getting into the nuances of socially-acceptable kissing is missing the mark and just invites for procedural problems and controversy about what the questions imply.


[11-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what if the court were to rule he is a pedo based on saying it's never okay to kiss kids on the cheek in public?


[11-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doing that would be the court making a decision for all of society, and would mean you could then like, call Joe Biden a pedo


[11-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's a safe bet to assume that the culture the lawsuit is occuring in is the standard by which it's determined whether or not the kissing would be inappropriate or not


[11-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The last thing you want to do in a court case like this is muddy the waters and invite criticism of the judiciary.


[11-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow but the issue is defamation.


[11-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, OBJECTION: RELEVANCE?


[11-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Defamation is when someone knowingly makes provably false statements that incur damage to a person's reputation.


[11-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is up to the court to decide whether the statement is provably false, whether it has incurred damage, and whether it the person made it knowingly.


[11-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
(as in, they knew he wasn't a pedo and were just trying to harm reputation)


[11-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the statement is not provable, it's not defamation. If it doesn't incur damage to reputation, it's not defamation. If the person truly believed he was a pedo, it's not defamation.


[11-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, the third of these is true, so it's not defamation.


[11-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing with when it's okay to kiss would be in theory about whether it's provably false...but whether it is universally okay to kiss a kid on the cheek is not something that's actually provable...


[11-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even if it could be, it doesn't prove what someone's intentions were.


[11-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing that sort of question to come into evidence is actually a serious procedural deficit that could destroy the whole trial.


[11-Jan-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
you mean "if the statement is provable, it's not defamation"?


[11-Jan-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[11-Jan-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
because if the statement is not provable, but it's being made anyway, it sounds like defamation


[11-Jan-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the statement is unprovable, or true, it's not defamation.


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is only defamation if the statement is provable and false.


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
"You are a potato" is defamation. "You suck" is not.


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whether someone "sucks" is not provable.


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whether someone is a potato is.


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato


[11-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you are not a potato.

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[11-Jan-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People really, really hate lawyers and judges.


[11-Jan-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your sentence has a grammar error.


[11-Jan-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
What did you mean to say?


[11-Jan-20 11:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7865553/Donald-Trump-says-Iran-appears-standing-down.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

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Donald Trump says Iran 'appears to be standing down'
Donald Trump has said Iran is 'standing down' in the Middle East after a 'crushing revenge' strike largely failed to materialise Wednesday after the regime launched 22 missiles at US bases.
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[11-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The case has caused people to become more interested in legal cases in general.


[11-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy on the right has the look of "What i the absolute fuck are you talking about?"


[11-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With that, comes an increased dislike of lawyers as they are seen as smug/arrogant when they comment on Vic's case.


[11-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When in reality it's pretty much just people who don't understand how anything works being mad at being told how things work and saying it should be different.


[11-Jan-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people who don't think the judiciary should say what the law is, and they especially hate anti-SLAPP laws.


[11-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't want criticism of the elites.


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] illumnious#7938
still https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216130169477439488

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دولت ایران باید به گروه‌های حقوق بشر اجازه بدهد حقیقت کنونی اعتراضات در جریان مردم ایران را نظارت کرده و گزارش بدهند. نباید شاهد کشتار دوباره ی معترضا...
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[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because people don't like that someone called an anime VA a pedo, suddenly people are now experienced lawyers.


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want monarchy.


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who dislike lawyers actually chiming in.


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally speaking, you can call someone a pedo


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you think it's true.


[11-Jan-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
> They want monarchy.
Regardless of situation, or only when it benefits them?


[11-Jan-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't think it's true, and it's possible to prove they are not a pedo, then you might end up paying money.


[11-Jan-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure courts will consider it possible, btw


[11-Jan-20 11:52 PM] illumnious#7938
stopid tweet translate *The Iranian government should allow human rights groups to monitor and report on the current reality of protests in the Iranian people. We should not see the peaceful killing of protesters again or the Internet shut down. The world is watching.*


[11-Jan-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's talking about someone's internal mental setup


[11-Jan-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
which we only hav a limited window into


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also whole private vs public thing


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't for instance on the witness stand say you knew what someone else was thinking


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Libel and slander suits are a fucking pain.


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can only provide your observations, stuff you actually experienced


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
For the reasons you mentioned among others


[11-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
while those can SPEAK to what a person thought, that's for the court to interpret


[11-Jan-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
If someone can fool the erection-testing that can be done while showing them images of kids, then you can't really prove someone isn't a pedo


[11-Jan-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's also serious ethical concerns involved about testing a specific identified person for what arouses them


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
> If someone can fool the erection-testing that can be done while showing them images of kids
That sounds like something a pedo came up with for free pics


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general the courts do not want to be in a position as thought police.


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can think whatever you want as long as you follow society's rules.


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
the erection testing i mean, not your statement about fooling it


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not thought policing in that case, that's finding evidence


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the problem is


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251 (pinned)
Is a boner forced speech?


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
there are laws on the books that actually would put people into asylums


[11-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
for being pedos


[11-Jan-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[11-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
such laws are probably unconstitutional


[11-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
enabling them is a bad idea


[11-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's also a really bad idea for a court case to require laying out someone's normally-private thoughts


[11-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so if the test is actually unreliable and could hav a false positive


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
can you imagine the fallout if a guy gets a boner during a pedo test and it gets out?


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My point with all of this kind of goes back to your "they want a monarchy" thing.


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and there's messy definitions to get into


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is lusting after a 16-year-old pedophilia?


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is in common parlance


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want someone to be able to get sued into the ground for saying like, this coal company is bad.


[11-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It may not be among psychologists


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The court would be deciding on common parlance


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  I got the feeling if the monarch was socially liberal, "they" would suddenly want democracy instead.


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
upwards of half of males lust after 16-year-olds


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that would essentially mean you could accuse random people of being pedos without specifying you mean into 12 year olds etc.


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and be right half the time


[11-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
with a court bakking you up, setting people's careers on fire.


[11-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, this is a rabbithole you don't want to go down.


[11-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think it's ideologically possible to have a liberal dictator with absolute or near-absolute power


[11-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the kind of rabbithole a fascist state would use to burn up its enemies.


[12-Jan-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
a liberal dictator would be ideologically slanted towards reducing their power to the point that they are no longer a dictator


[12-Jan-20 12:00 AM] jlun2#8758
Wait, so absolute power folks have a high tendency to be homophobic and hate minorities and women? rip


[12-Jan-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[12-Jan-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute power is predicated on targeting enemies to maintain your power


[12-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise conflict arises internally because nobody has a common enemy


[12-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why fascism often teams up with the local religion against religious and racial minorities.


[12-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a survival tactic based around "join me or these bad people will kill you"


[12-Jan-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without hated minorities, there;s nothing to turn people against so your fascist attempt just cofuses people as to why they should be attackign their neighbors


[12-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you stop saying some group is bad


[12-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
people question why they should be with you


[12-Jan-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the whole thing collapses.


[12-Jan-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
Is the desire for absolute power genetic?


[12-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting part of "Nazi win" althists


[12-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When they run out of Jews what do they do


[12-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep people afraid of cryptojews?


[12-Jan-20 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
go after someone else until only the aryans remain


[12-Jan-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  arbitrarily assign people random numbers 1, 2. Make those 2 groups hate each other.


[12-Jan-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was their whole end goal, wipe out everyone that didnt have blonde hair and blue eyes


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who actually had that in the higher up Nazi party


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did anyone?


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler, Goring, Goebbels, Bormann


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Himmler


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
None did IIRC


[12-Jan-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one and eventually they would been expected to kill themselves and hand their power off to actual aryans


[12-Jan-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the kind of system where eventually everyone stabs eachother in the back


[12-Jan-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea was to focus on the chosen few, worship them, aspire to be them, and kill anyone who isnt them


[12-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Hitler were a normal citizen he would have been put in a camp


[12-Jan-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes he would have


[12-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he was a mischling


[12-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some degree of Jewish ancestry that wasn't ok


[12-Jan-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was the fact that he asserted himself to the top, that gave him the power


[12-Jan-20 12:13 AM] illumnious#7938
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[12-Jan-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
> arbitrarily assign people random numbers 1, 2. Make those 2 groups hate each other.


[12-Jan-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
psychologists did this experiment


[12-Jan-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
and replicated it


[12-Jan-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
worked every time


[12-Jan-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
crazy isn't it


[12-Jan-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's part of deep survival instinct


[12-Jan-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jan-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the amount of gun talk coming from people wearing camo coats and hoodies makes me wary of people in camo as well, so no one is truly immune from it. it can be as simple as a piece of clothing


[12-Jan-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like i know not everyone in camo is a gun nut who is going to kill me if i let my guard down. But survival instinct puts part of my brain into doubt


[12-Jan-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel safer around military types than around cops


[12-Jan-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m talking mroe hunter types, thna military types


[12-Jan-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i get what you mean


[12-Jan-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sherrif cars put me on edge


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  Well then.


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
people in the military have actual trigger discipline and deescalation training


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
to the point where I don't fear being randomly shot at


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
cops don't


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
No "cure" or treatment for that? For the group thing.


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[12-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
none


[12-Jan-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
*US cops


[12-Jan-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I've only ever lived in the US


[12-Jan-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
and when I traveled it's only been to countries that were greater shitholes than the US


[12-Jan-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Mexico, Ecuador etc.


[12-Jan-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention cops form biases and pre-judgements based on appearance


[12-Jan-20 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like access to europe for the average american is as out of reach as the US seems to people in africa


[12-Jan-20 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I cannot afford to just drop $1k to fly there


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so like if a dude has hair that;s just alittle too long, he may just need the lord beat into him for being one of them there homosexuals


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
it's more like


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
if he's black


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
or autistic


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
or black and autistic


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
then the cop will draw arms


[12-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[12-Jan-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though i;m also including sherrifs in this


[12-Jan-20 12:25 AM] Macarou#9574
Autistic, that's not a group I hear mentioned often in discussions like this.


[12-Jan-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again sheriffs are a different bundle of fuck


[12-Jan-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
mental illness in the US is a greatly depressing issue


[12-Jan-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
police mistreat the mentally ill to far greater degrees


[12-Jan-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and good luck if you're non-neurotypical


[12-Jan-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s not a physical disability, thne people treat it like you;re imagining it and you should just pull your boot strap up and get over yourself


[12-Jan-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
never learned how to communicate? cop will shoot you for "resisting"


[12-Jan-20 12:27 AM] Macarou#9574
Oh dear.


[12-Jan-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have a stutter? Have fun being shot uder guise of resistace


[12-Jan-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
also the police are allowed to lie about it in court


[12-Jan-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
not because they are legally allowed to do so but because the DA will never charge them for it


[12-Jan-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_perjury "testilying"

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[12-Jan-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you mute? well ow you're dead for flashing gang signs!


[12-Jan-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sign language you say? That's not a real thing!


[12-Jan-20 12:38 AM] illumnious#7938
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[12-Jan-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what gave you that idea?


[12-Jan-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he totally didnt destroy the stability of america just because obama had his name on a few of those things


[12-Jan-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
expert says water is wet


[12-Jan-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his destruction of the iranian nuclear deal totally wasnt because it had obamas name on it, totally


[12-Jan-20 12:45 AM] illumnious#7938
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[12-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] don't forget the time a guy was fired from his job as a cop for not immediately shooting a brown guy, him being an ex marine.


[12-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally, a police dept. will fire a veteran for not being as trigger-happy


[12-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could talk all day about why the individual cops are like this, but the problem is clearly systemic.


[12-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://features.propublica.org/weirton/police-shooting-lethal-force-cop-fired-west-virginia/

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[12-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
His bakkup literally crashed their cars coming in to shoot the brown guy


[12-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then sprayed half a clip before killing said brown guy.


[12-Jan-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, the police dept. lied out the ass


[12-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they eventually got nailed in court and had to pay the guy a ton of money for wrongfully firing him.


[12-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps the craziest part is that something they considered an incident to help justify the firing was him allowing paramedics to try to revive someone


[12-Jan-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, the logic is that if you allow paramedics to attempt revival, it will destroy evidence of any domestic abuse that led to the death.


[12-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally "no no, let her die so we can arrest someone for murder easily and throw them in jail."


[12-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Midknight#9798
If I was the victim, I'd rather be alive than only good as a forensic witness


[12-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, she died anyways, but it's crazy to see logic of "well a guilty man could go free, so let's just giv up on saving her".


[12-Jan-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole premise of "innocent until proven guilty" is that it's better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be harmed.


[12-Jan-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly reverse logic prevailing among police speaks to a serious political battle.


[12-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
> The second incident involved Mader’s response to an April 12, 2016, call about a woman in cardiac arrest who eventually died. When Mader arrived at her home, emergency medical technicians were working unsuccessfully to revive the woman, and they had moved her to a staircase landing inside. Mader and two other officers who joined him regarded the incident as tragic, but in the end a medical call, and they soon left. A supervisor later determined that Mader had failed to deduce that the woman might have been the victim of foul play. Parts of her body, the senior officer said, were contorted in a way that might have suggested she had been assaulted.
> 
> The department never determined if foul play was involved, and no one was ever arrested for the woman’s death. Still, a supervisor wrote a memo suggesting that Mader be disciplined for his handling of the call. Alexander, the police chief, later said under oath that Mader should have stopped the EMTs from trying to save the woman so as to preserve a potential crime scene.


[12-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[12-Jan-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/us/seattle-police-officer-ruse-man-suicide/index.html

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[12-Jan-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
More police lying


[12-Jan-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
> I’m an insurance adjuster. I had a claim where our insured hit and killed a little girl who darted out between two cars (it was a residential street). He didn’t flee the scene. The police “expert” did a reconstruction that concluded our insured was going 60 MPH at the time of impact. Our insured’s wife had him hospitalized because he was seriously suicidal. I’m not an expert, but I knew he wasn’t going that fast, based on the lack of long skid marks, etc. We retained an expert, who concluded the speed at impact was 20MPH, which was under the posted speed limit. Our expert had multiple degrees in engineering and physics. The police “expert” had 16 hours of training in a weekend work shop. Our poor insured nearly killed himself due to this jack ass’s incompetence. People always assume cops know what they’re talking about.


[12-Jan-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
> In his report, Myerberg said there was "insufficient need" to use a ruse and "it is clear that the ruse was, at least in part, a cause" of the driver's suicide.
> 
> Before arriving to the house, the officer told his partner that he would use the ruse if they found the suspect and said "it's a lie, but it's fun," his partner recalled, according to the OPA report.


[12-Jan-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
> it's a lie, but it's fun


[12-Jan-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society


[12-Jan-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jan-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
big brain time


[12-Jan-20 04:00 AM] green_byte#1188
Excuse me?


[12-Jan-20 04:00 AM] green_byte#1188
https://www.foxnews.com/us/vermont-cell-phones-bill-ban-under-21

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[12-Jan-20 04:01 AM] green_byte#1188
>>Cell phones have often been used by mass shooters of younger ages for research on previous shootings.”


[12-Jan-20 04:02 AM] green_byte#1188
What the fuck is that statement?


[12-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's nonsense


[12-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The bill isn't serious


[12-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just an NRA shill wasting time and tax payer money with a bill to "mock" legislation that raises the age of purchase of rifles to 21


[12-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the logic seems retarded, remember, GOP


[12-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hell, it's not even GOP


[12-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NRA's pockets are deeper in some states I guess


[12-Jan-20 04:08 AM] green_byte#1188
Mmm


[12-Jan-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
"phone bad"


[12-Jan-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
ok boomer


[12-Jan-20 04:08 AM] green_byte#1188
Could have been a better though out.


[12-Jan-20 04:09 AM] green_byte#1188
Like that sentence...


[12-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just modern day "A Modest Proposal"


[12-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Macarou#9574
"We Have Concerns"


[12-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also Vermont


[12-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize is


[12-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Outside of NYC


[12-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the northeast is crazy


[12-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somehow Vermont likes Bernie, but other than that, that whole area is corrupt as fukk


[12-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What industry is even there


[12-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Old money and financial cheats?"


[12-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heating oil, timber, real estate.


[12-Jan-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a place where people love burning things because it's cold as fukk but they've never heard of modern technology.


[12-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you constantly build shoddy wooden houses with poor insulation that are great in the Summer but terrible in the Winter, then you burn oil or logs to keep them warm.


[12-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be a great place economically if Canada weren't a different country.


[12-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Canada is a different country, and nobody is actually interested in reasonable unified standards, so it's a fringe location for trade.


[12-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only appeal of being there is that it's relatively easy to build houses and there's tons of them already.


[12-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and [over]fishing


[12-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who introduced this is clearly Todd Howard with a mustache.


[12-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The coastline has swarms of boats to scoop up fish and lobsters etc. to completely ravage the local ocean ecosystems to enrich the cities.


[12-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So some local guy works on a fishing boat, gets little pay, boss (who likely livs somewhere far away) gets rich.


[12-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism continues to crush the countryside.


[12-Jan-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone smart gets the fukk out and heads for Pennsylvania.


[12-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Countryside hasn't been anything but cheap labor and resources since like 1870


[12-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and the police there are simultaneously really shitty like normal and *really lazy*


[12-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
like they just won't investigate crimes.


[12-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor person right in front of them, they'll find an excuse to arrest


[12-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, another poor person is like, extorting that poor person that was in front of them via withholding identity documents after having them in foster care


[12-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
police go "no that's the state police's problem"


[12-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
State police then (correctly) say it's local police's problem.


[12-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then another poor person, related to the first, shoplifts and the police just...don't bother. They get told that said person's location is known. They don't bother.


[12-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is implying it wouldn't be an improvement to just have the National Guard be the local police in certain jurisdictions


[12-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then said person rapes a kid. Police consider bothering, but decide not to.


[12-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, anything that'd involve the police driving across town or further doesn't happen.


[12-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very lazy blue smudge.


[12-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wish I wasn't using an actual anonymized example there btw.


[12-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I regularly talk to a guy who livs in upstate NY


[12-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could probably if the police were competent put like 30 people in jail in a week.


[12-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Between those who abused him, his family members, and those who abused them.


[12-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police in the area behave similarly to a drunk abusive father.


[12-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They yell at you when you interrupt their laziness, and will not get off their ass to help anyone.


[12-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, we live in a society, @Teaspoon


[12-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
unfortunate


[12-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, when like, a site runs an article talking about people who can't obtain identity documents to get voter ID


[12-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're referring to this sort of situation


[12-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crazy foster parent withholding records or such, police will not do anything no matter how many times they are bugged, except threaten the person bugging them, and it'd be honestly easier for the person involved to make a fake identity.


[12-Jan-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there will be people with shitty foster parents, because there's virtually no accountability in foster care, and these broken towns full of economic malaise breed child abuse, which instead of getting fixed, simply means CPS eventually reluctantly drags the kid away from the adults who will strip search a teenage girl every day at random, and throws them in with an even more abusive family that's just trying to game the system.


[12-Jan-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and like half the town will be aggressively vaguely Protestant, which often means completely ignoring child abuse based on the perpetrator being "too christian to be bad", mixed with using religious BS to justify racism.


[12-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you've got just a massive pile where it's like the town itself is depressed and self-abusive.


[12-Jan-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any time I think of the north east I just picture crab fisheries, Stephen King towns and forests with windigo bullshit and missing children


[12-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace the windigos and other Stephen King demons with old religious women who like to beat kids with spoons and grab the butts of female family members, both young and old.


[12-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But keep the police skeptical of their existence until it's a nationwide headline.


[12-Jan-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a similar vein to how Lovecraft's monsters really represent Asians, Stephen King demons are basically people's nextdoor neighbors, except less malicious and more obvious.


[12-Jan-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, windigos are very inaccurate because the natives were incredibly thoroughly genocided so there's not really anyone around in the area anymore who would believe in that stuff.


[12-Jan-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cross the Canadian border and you'll actually find natives, cause Canada tended to be a bit less genocidal.


[12-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless they are Quebecois


[12-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder Quebec would be an independent country now if they were slightly less racist.


[12-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And all it took was _slightly_ less racism


[12-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But no, treat the First Nations as second class citizens, that is worth not being independent


[12-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, racism is the ultimate goal of independence


[12-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's so they can not be bound by silly ideas that forcing a particular culture on everyone isn't entirely legal.


[12-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
`.aq @Nebbie Do realize, racism is the ultimate goal`


[12-Jan-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jan-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I just noticed the username on this post is u/BlackCrow https://i.redd.it/czda9fnqm7a41.jpg

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[12-Jan-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
because only a crow would be smart enough to come up with this


[12-Jan-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jan-20 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
```Do realize, racism is the ultimate goal of independence```


[12-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
there's been so many independence movements directly or indirectly because of the movements' feeling that they have a right to be racist it's not even funny


[12-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Opponent#3498
so in essence they refused to be 'slightly' less racist 'for a time' it would take them to attain independance, reverse the policies in as short order as legally possible and get what they want.


[12-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Opponent#3498
**lovely**


[12-Jan-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
the largest one is obviously the US civil war


[12-Jan-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/en9p0o/if_you_rob_a_store_naked_as_a_minor/>


[12-Jan-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
> Naked minors =/= child porn
> 
> Naked minors masturbating = child porn
> 
> Solution: Furiously masturbating minors robbing stores


[12-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
wow, this dude went full "ackshually" <https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/en9p0o/if_you_rob_a_store_naked_as_a_minor/fdxmubv/>

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[12-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, strap an egg vibe on, an easy hands-free solution.


[12-Jan-20 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/en94ws/warcraft_saga_the_orcs_by_me_my_take_on_how_the/fdypo5h/>


[12-Jan-20 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
> Random thought, but I’ve become hyper-aware lately of the political and social implications of fantasy stories and themes, and.... idk how I feel about it. I’d kinda like orcs to just be orcs, but I can’t deny the fine print.


[12-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I for a while was routinely thinking about WoW stuff geopolitically


[12-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And like, even if you completely ignore IRL stuff


[12-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very clear that there is poor treatment and a lakk of consideration for non-human races in Azeroth.


[12-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, some of the races are a bit unrealistic in just how violent they are


[12-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
without being genocided.


[12-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No way the pandas just let the bugs try and kill them every century.


[12-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
and the worst of those are human varieties, i.e. the Forsaken :D


[12-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
do you know the history of the internment camps for the orcs


[12-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Garrosh being evil and going full nazi against trolls is basically just a thing to justify the Alliance claiming moral highground


[12-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the Tauren really should've left the Horde


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes no sense for the Tauren to ally the Orcs


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
it does if you played warcraft 3


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the orcs basically saved the tauren (or at least the bloodhoof tribe) from extinction


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe but they should've ditched Garrosh


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the trolls as well


[12-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
ie, the tauren had a blood debt to the horde


[12-Jan-20 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
they literally would not exist without the horde


[12-Jan-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That stuff only goes so far


[12-Jan-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is very little loyalty in geopolitics.


[12-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a personal level, sure, but eventually a faction will oust a leader who's loyal to what becomes an enemy.


[12-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately the cultures aren't very well thought-out


[12-Jan-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blizzard wants simultaneously to make the non-elven/human races very brutal and to not make them politically incorrect.


[12-Jan-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, all the stuff about how sexist the main troll societies are got blown out of WoW canon


[12-Jan-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
because hurr medievalish society totes has equality


[12-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inequality of sexes is kinda key in a society where warfare is rampant and medicine poor.


[12-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need the women protected to bear children.


[12-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sending them off to fight when soldiers need to be very strong and easily disposable is uh, a bad strategy.


[12-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
but anyway, in warcraft 1, the orcs invaded azeroth and drove out the human kingdom of stormwind to exile in lordaeron, in warcraft 2, the orcs invaded lordaeron but were pushed back and stormwind was reclaimed, the orcs that were left behind fell into a fel-inflicted malaise (basically withdrawal from fel energy) and were put into internment camps (the only other option being exterminating them because of how stupidly brutal they were in slaughtering every human they came across) until thrall (a slave who was raised from birth by the human leader of the internment camps named blackmoore who was from a clan that was exiled for refusing to take fel energy) escaped from blackmoore, met grom hellscream, learned shamanism, and went around freeing all the orcs from the internment camps with the old warchief of the horde (ogrim doomhammer) and reintroducing shamanism to his species


[12-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
then in warcraft 3, thrall receives the message from a prophet to leave lordaeron and sail west to kalimdor


[12-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
along the way, they find the darkspear tribe on an island that was sinking due to some naga witch, pick them up, land in kalimdor, and save the tauren from extinction by centaurs


[12-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
btw @Nebbie, did you take non-playable race factions into account?


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
because there are those as well


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
quilboars, furbolgs, centaurs


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
other troll tribes


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them don't matter, I was focused on considering Zandalari society


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
the venture company (basically the capitalism expy)


[12-Jan-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Vulpera are interesting and throw a wrench in things


[12-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole blood troll mess is...a mess.


[12-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, you're looking at the game after WoW turned it into a mess


[12-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
you should probably look more into the game as it was originally released (vanilla/classic)


[12-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
it turned into a mess after the third expansion (cataclysm)


[12-Jan-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
After a point it gets hard to even keep trakk of how many random shitty societies there are who are basically "for the evulz"


[12-Jan-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
also, I feel like magic would be a great equalizer when it came to male/female relations


[12-Jan-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely


[12-Jan-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most soldiers won't use magic and magic doesn't make babies.


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of women at home, men at war is that men are more disposable reproduction wise and stronger.


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
but magic can make babies not happen


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that men or women are better at anything else.


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is that relevant?


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
and makes it much harder to physically control women as well


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also not relevant


[12-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
ancient society didn't keep women off the battlefield by like, dragging them


[12-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
almost all societal control is soft power


[12-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
culture, what everyone says


[12-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't even *need* to kill the random Mulans that happen.


[12-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
but anyway, there's a much, much larger population of civilians than what's shown in the games


[12-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just badmouth them and it keeps them from becoming a tidal wave.


[12-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay but many of these societies go thru periods of complete destruction of their cities


[12-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
under those conditions, repopulation needs every woman possible


[12-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
but I question you saying it's not relevant that a woman can't get concessions in a world where they can make it so they literally don't have babies if they're being treated badly


[12-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a ridiculously large stable civilian population to make it not matter.


[12-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
if humans could abort at will, what would be the consequences of that?


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, women are not intrinsically going to want to be fighting on the battlefield, and holding their ability to make children hostage


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be very few consequences of it.


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```Blizzard wants simultaneously to make the non-elven/human races very brutal and to not make them politically incorrect.```
Again, the Forsaken. Very much human (undead human, but that hardly matters). They take after the Nazi Germany in terms of industrialised slaughter. WMD galore, agressive expansion by means of drowning the area in chemicals and move in after no conventional life can exist there. In classic, the 'true to lore' bit of the game, where every faction starts off with solving their domestic threats (wild animals, bandits, demon worshipers, centaurs), the small-time useful stuff, the Forsaken start out with 'oh, there are these peasants living there that Scourge didn't finish off. They drink our water and breathe our air (even if we don't need to do either). Apply the final solution to them'.


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, human women can EASILY induce miscarriages


[12-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And again


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the MAIN WAY society controls people is with soft power


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
society doesn't NEED to prevent abortion


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, that was mainly because the living humans kept treating the forsaken as if they were still the scourge and killing/burning them on sight


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vast, vast majority of the time


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
a person is controlled by what others think of them, by what the taboos are


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
though the reason they went to such extreme methods was because many of them lost a lot of their emotions and other psychological traits of humanity


[12-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society can just say using magic to abort is immoral and women who do it are looked down upon


[12-Jan-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
most will not do it.


[12-Jan-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ground state of people is following the cultural rules and keeping your head down and such.


[12-Jan-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
so you don't think that society would be inclined to treat women better than "barter them off to someone who'll rape them until they're pregnant" if humans could abort at-will?


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Particularly among the lower classes, where social credit is in short supply and you need to save up all you can get.


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, society would not be in the slightest more inclined to treat them better.


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
All society has to do is label aborting as bad and it's a done deal.


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society isn't about actual hard power.


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is about soft power.


[12-Jan-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't go and slit your neighbor's throat over a quarrel because you've been trained to consider it dumb.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And because you fear the ramifications on your person for doing so.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, women could just murder their husbands IRL were they so inclined.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poison is ridiculously common.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And has been for thousands of years.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poisoning a husband is EASY.


[12-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But women don't do it


[12-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think you realize how much humans take advantage of what little power they're able to get


[12-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we aren't inclined to treat them better because of it.


[12-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, the average person does not simply rebel.


[12-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The average person does as their family says is best.


[12-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Culture is extremely good at controlling people in large numbers.


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your ideas were true, women would poison their husbands all the time in medieval societies


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
there's only so far a person can be mistreated before they'll use the power they have to strike back


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would result in immediate sexual equality


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the thing to realize is that society is there whispering no


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
btw, I wasn't talking about "go to the local magician and get an abortion", I was talking about "what if humans could literally abort at will at any time"


[12-Jan-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The average woman in a medieval society doesn't believe she's being mistreated by being forced to marry at 10 and hav babies at 14


[12-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and she loves her babies


[12-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
... and the painful rape isn't mistreatment?


[12-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
9 times out of 10, it will not be "painful rape"


[12-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The usual case here would be a marriage while both the husband and wife are children


[12-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
of similar ages


[12-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they would grow up together and the vast majority of the time it would not be incredibly abusive


[12-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, 1 out of 10 is really bad stats for rape


[12-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's not great, morally


[12-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you hav to recognize that that's too low for people to decide to go crazy with using magic potions or such.


[12-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
how good was medieval sex education anyway? from what I understood, women basically had almost no warning in regards to sex when they went into marriage, and the men were basically told "stick goes in hole, have at it"


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normally women would be told things by elderly women who taught them


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
which is 100% not conductive to non-painful sex for women


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
women would be trained in being wives and good at housework


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
men would be trained in fighting


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
women would receive generally superior sex ed


[12-Jan-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now of course


[12-Jan-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
men would be horrible the first few dozen times at sex


[12-Jan-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you hav to realize sex would start at a very young age


[12-Jan-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, ASAP


[12-Jan-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
By age 16, a guy would probably hav had sex several times at least and generally know how to not make it painful for the woman.


[12-Jan-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And his wife would be pregnant or close to pregnant.


[12-Jan-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
from what I've read, girls were early, (usually 12-14), men were usually almost established (20+) adults


[12-Jan-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
who would a guy be having sex with? virginity was sacred


[12-Jan-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virginity was sacred for a GIRL


[12-Jan-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not for a GUY


[12-Jan-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that's what I mean


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
what girl would he be having sex with?


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
A prostitute, some peasant farmer, or a relative, most likely.


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
infidelity was punishable by fine/jail for the male too


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but we are talking about largely agrarian societies


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
with people worknig long hours in fields


[12-Jan-20 09:04 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, but then the peasant farmer is ruined for marriage, and prostitutes were basically those women who had sex out of wedlock


[12-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[12-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it would happen


[12-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
why would a girl willingly have sex when she's been told her entire life would be ruined?


[12-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alcohol, mostly


[12-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
or in the case of prostitutes, they get ruined once and then it's like "welp might as well make money now"


[12-Jan-20 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
and how would it be widespread enough in such a society that the majority of men would have experience to not make it hurt on their wedding night?


[12-Jan-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well for one thing, a lot of people in such a society don't make it to adulthood to see their wedding night


[12-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guys who do make it had more resources and/or lukk, and very well could've taken advantage of less fortunate girls etc.


[12-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
how you described the soft method of control isn't meshing very well with how common you're making it sound that men have experience with sex before getting married


[12-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, pretty shitty societal situation.


[12-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize here is in practice most marriages are going to be "shotgun weddings" (without shotguns)


[12-Jan-20 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
I know that


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your male farmhand and a female farmhand spend some time in a barn


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they're going to get married


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Crow#5457
I believe I'm the one who's most extreme here on the "marriage was systemic rape" thing


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're a bit unrealistic on women staying virgins and guys being inexperienced until 20


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, thing to realize here


[12-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex psychologically makes people think less morally.


[12-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the one area where taboos melt like butter


[12-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to stop people from having sex with each other is nigh impossible


[12-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why we hav plays about it


[12-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, India had a whole religious system built around it


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know why they're a brown in between white and blakk?


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
BECAUSE IT FAILED


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
I feel there'd be a lot more shotgun weddings in such a society as well, though it is always the right of the potenteial husband to reject/refuse the offer/dowry, but that would just lead to widespread bad blood and friction between families


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It failed incredibly hard and all they could do was keep the "untouchables" out later.


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a medieval society


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are going to fool around as soon as puberty hits


[12-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
at like age 13-15


[12-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling psychology would be different in a species that can self-abort at will (remember that I'm talking about humans being able to abort any time at will, not seeing a magician or drinking a potion to abort)


[12-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
By 20, it is ridiculous to believe a guy hasn't had sex at least once


[12-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, I don't think the psychology would be that different.


[12-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex in mammals creates bonding


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
there'd be at least a certain amount of respect for women if she refused to give birth to men who mistreated them


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in a species like horses where social ties are very easily broken, sure you want to self abort readily


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but humans aren't like that


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
we tend to be very stable in our relationships


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
you must realize something


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
about abusive relationships


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that's an artifact from the literally millennia of rape and kidnapping with no recourse for the victim


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of like


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the abuser keeps the victim in by physical force


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
is dead wrong.


[12-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
like, tens of thousands of years


[12-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an abusive relationship, the abuser uses emotions to keep the victim in. It is based on soft power.


[12-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
then again, I feel like humanity would be extinct (or would've had the mechanism for self-abortion ferreted out of the gene pool) if women had the ability to self-abort at will


[12-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome is a core tenet of human psychology.


[12-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
We spent thousands of years as tribal groups that raided each other's women to avoid incest.


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evolutionarily, when captured, we start to feel for our captors


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they start to feel for us


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we become part of the group.


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
yes, I'm saying that stockholm syndrome wouldn't be nearly as strong in women if they had a method of control themselves (ie choosing which male gets to impregnate her)


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it would be even stronger.


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-aborting would get her killed.


[12-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're incredibly misguided on this topic


[12-Jan-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize that the purpose of Stockholm Syndrome is to make it so abductions essentially don't destroy reproductive fitness.


[12-Jan-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, you're getting to the point where I'd say it's literally better to let humanity go extinct than to let it continue as it evolved to be


[12-Jan-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes it's pretty shitty, but you hav to face reality.


[12-Jan-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
I was trying to avoid that, but you're really not leaving me much of a choice


[12-Jan-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in experiments


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
mammals tend to prefer relationships that come with abuse.


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
like literally, humanity as an existence was a massive fluke of nature that should've gone extinct


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you randomly freak out at a monkey, but usually provide it food


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will come to you more.


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Than if you always provided food.


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
fun fact: there are sometimes mares who will follow a defeated stallion out of a herd in the wild


[12-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, humans shouldn't hav gone extinct, logically.


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything about us is to make us crazy at survival


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome is just the mental extension of this


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
humanity was below the threshold for what was considered a viable gene pool at some point in our history


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's true of many species.


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big cats especially.


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Viability" of a gene pool is all about statistics


[12-Jan-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not a guarantee it'll die out


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that, one big disaster could cause a die out


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Crow#5457
it's why we're so closely related to each other, and I think that's most likely the point where we started evolving the extreme stockholm syndrome present in modern humans


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we hav a lot of survival mechanisms


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've evolved regardless.


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In tribal groups, incest will dominate.


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to raid other tribes' women.


[12-Jan-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot.


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, you can just trade women instead


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but ultimately capturing a woman vs. buying her from another tribe isn't that different *to her*


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
hence Stockholm Syndrome must be there to make her okay with things and reproduce


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it *will* evolve.


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is


[12-Jan-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a society where people fukk at 12


[12-Jan-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and marry by 14


[12-Jan-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
there isn't going to be just 24/7 horribly painful rape


[12-Jan-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
there definitely will be awkward wedding nights


[12-Jan-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and old women telling the young girls about how bad it'll be and what to do etc. etc.


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it will be an utter pain for a lot of people involved, in some ways literally.


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like, by age 20, the parties involved in the marriage are probably having alrightish sex.


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even if aborting is an option, the woman's not gonna do that cause she's probably fallen in love


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and she actually wants kids.


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(more kids)


[12-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(especially if some might die)


[12-Jan-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome is that sort of safety switch that says "okay shit's fukked but let's just abandon individuality and become alright with things so we can be happy"


[12-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Magic's not gonna change that.


[12-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and to harp on things, @Crow


[12-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women barely choose their partners *now* in capitalist societies.


[12-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause men tend to hav large economic advantages and the primary purpose of marrying is economic.


[12-Jan-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And women aren't really happy with the situation. Sexual satisfaction right now is pretty terrible for single women.


[12-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav extremely available pills now to prevent or early in destroy a pregnancy.


[12-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuuut there's also societal pressure to not do that.


[12-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
in southern states, maybe


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason that pressure is even waning is that society is at a point where the level of violence is ridiculously low


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is very little reason with how few people we need as soldiers to hav sexism going on.


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even then


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is extreme pressure


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans could overturn Roe by July


[12-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
think about that


[12-Jan-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think a medieval like society with magic abortion pills that goes thru giant continent-wide wars every few years would be like?


[12-Jan-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I can guarantee you they'd look at Roe as being hugely bad.


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reproduction is a big issue in societies/culture


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
I personally feel like there'd be some pressure to not have giant continente-wide wars with super destructive magic available


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause uh, IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP ALIVE


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
we would've been in a MAD-like situation centuries, if not millennia ago


[12-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The things that stop wars are trade and communication


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the magic isn't quite at nuke levels


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like a problem magic can solve


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
because portals


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice WoW seems to hav very slow communication and little trade


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
so wars should be super common


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially since a lot of races can't mate with each other


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
again, nigh impossible to stop sex


[12-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
portals can literally teleport you anywhere instantly on the planet, and even to other planets


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it tends to bring together cultures to some extent IRL


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
and EVEN across different timelines entirely


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without that option, tribes would be much more warring.


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
you can literally


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
cross timelines with magic in WoW


[12-Jan-20 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
alternate universes, whatever


[12-Jan-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
basically, garrosh in the fifth expansion (warlords of draenor) went back in time to create an alternate universe where grom hellscream (his father) didn't drink the blood of mannoroth when it was offered because he was forewarned it was slavery to demons


[12-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
with the help of a rogue bronze drake (the bronze dragonflight were the custodians of time in regards to azeroth, but they lost a lot of their self-management abilities when their leader had to sacrifice their entire dragonflight's natural talents with time manipulation to defeat deathwing in the third expansion)


[12-Jan-20 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
they could still manipulate time, but they weren't nearly so omniscient without the natural power imbued into them


[12-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
also @Nebbie, there's even a little side story thing added which says that all of the mailboxes are connected by a magic portal, which is why you can receive mail at any mailbox in the game


[12-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
it was added as a fun little minigame, but it has pretty big communication implications


[12-Jan-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
btw here's my take on WoW vs sex equality.


[12-Jan-20 09:39 AM] Opponent#3498
you have that in a) societies where the difference between sexes isn't defined solely by childbirth. Elves of various stripes come to mind. Little to no concerns of infant mortality, little to no desire or concern about procreation in general (even among hedonistic high/blood elves who are supposed to be 'dying race', they're not too inclined to actually work on that)


[12-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
b) societies where it's prudent for a female to be as equal to a male as possible, physically. Orcs, trolls. Little concern about diseases and stuff (shamans are really good at maintaining health), but at any point you might be required to defend your homestead with all hands on deck.


[12-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
so either evolution/development, or harsh conditions defined by physical threats and not disease/hunger etc.


[12-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
humans, dwaves, gnomes, it's a toss up. They seem to have pretty regular gender roles, even if the gap is less than we would have (again, development via magic, especially the Light, helps with infant mortality)


[12-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
iirc male orcs are way stronger than female orcs, but even female orcs are on average stronger than human males


[12-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
it was only after thrall took control of the horde that females started getting more equal rights


[12-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
trolls apparently had a ritual to determine who was dominant in a male/female marriage


[12-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it's actually not clear how the tribes existed before, I took my idea from WoD but again that's hardly an original canon.


[12-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
they basically hit each other with paddles until one couldn't take the pain anymore


[12-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, this would make sense for offensive-minded conquering army which was the united orc Horde for a while


[12-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's... Very fitting for trolls.


[12-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
though that depended on the tribe as well (there's so many different factions and subfactions of troll it's not even funny)


[12-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, did you see the thing about blood trolls being matriarchal too?


[12-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Crow#5457
the females are all taller and stronger than the males, which is the opposite of every other troll tribe


[12-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Crow#5457
most likely due to the mutations introduced by their blood magic


[12-Jan-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
My problem is with regular trolls


[12-Jan-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
where they were supposed to be super duper sexist


[12-Jan-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then WoW nuked that from the lore


[12-Jan-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with anything interesting, really, aside of ritual sacrifice (which it still tones down a lot)


[12-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
they still have some things going for them aside from that. Necromancy before that became cool with the orcs and the Scourge. Death being often inconvenience and little more. The loa and their relationship with the trolls and the world. Etc.


[12-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
I think they are represented well enough as a relic from a time long since past, with various factions having adapted to the world with various degrees of success.


[12-Jan-20 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sexuality#Marriage_and_marriage_ceremonies_2

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Editorial note: Keep it clean, and no speculation.Sexuality is not often called upon in the Warcraft universe, but it does exist in official Warcraft lore and art.
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[12-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Crow#5457
the old stuff contradicted itself too


[12-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Crow#5457
like the whole "establishing the dominant partner in the marriage" thing


[12-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I liked it though. I'm definitely keeping it as head canon :P


[12-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Crow#5457
> Most female quilboar do not follow the males' path of the warrior. On occasion, a female child displays such unnatural strength that the shaman deems her a man. She then trains as a warrior and lives in all ways like a male, even taking female mates. Tribal legend holds that such unions have occasionally produced an exceptional quilboar warrior (though no scholar has confirmed the tale), so there is little or no stigma attached to such situations.


[12-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Crow#5457
something something implied futa


[12-Jan-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
I've recently come to the belief that the volatile and unpredictable effects that magic would have on an ecosystem would create mutations like true hermaphrodites much more common, and it would allow for physically compatible species to create viable offspring with other species (in warcraft, none of the playable humanoid species have been explicitly stated to be physically incapable of producing offspring)


[12-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
like half-elves (human/elf), half-trolls (iirc human/troll, orc/troll, and elf/troll), half-orcs (draenei/orc) are all canon


[12-Jan-20 10:54 AM] Opponent#3498
orcs in particular tend to breed with anything.


[12-Jan-20 10:56 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the draenei's home planet argus is basically on the other side of the universe from both the orc's home planet draenor and azeroth


[12-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
I think draenor and azeroth are much more physically closer to each other than argus is (I think argus has been explicitly stated to basically be on the absolute opposite side of the physical universe from azeroth)


[12-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
or at least obscenely far compared to draenor


[12-Jan-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
that's why draenor was a good staging point for the demons to get the orcs to invade azeroth


[12-Jan-20 10:58 AM] Crow#5457
and it's why the burning legion wasn't capable of bringing its full might against azeroth for over ten thousand years


[12-Jan-20 11:00 AM] Crow#5457
it was only portals (which move through the twisting nether, basically warcraft's version of warhammer's/40k's warp) generated by super powerful fonts of magic which could properly bridge the gap, and even then it took so much set-up that most attempts other than surgical incursions over the millennia were doomed to failure because of how magically powerful and thus detectable they were


[12-Jan-20 11:01 AM] Crow#5457
it was only in the sixth expansion (legion) that the burning legion finally managed to pinpoint azeroth's physical location and was able to assault the planet properly instead of through purely magical means of travel


[12-Jan-20 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
like the massive portal created during the war of the ancients (10,000 years before the start of warcraft 1) was still too small to properly let the legion bring its full might to bear, it was still pretty bottlenecked and the main focus was making it big enough to just let one being (sargeras) through


[12-Jan-20 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
it was described in the war of the ancients trilogy that there was still some incredibly miniscule chance of defenders of azeroth winning against the entirety of the burning legion combined, including its most powerful commanders archimonde and kil'jaeden


[12-Jan-20 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
it was also explicitly stated that even if just sargeras came through that portal, there was literally zero chance of the defenders winning


[12-Jan-20 11:07 AM] Crow#5457
so the cornerstone of the burning legion's strategy was to make a portal big enough for sargeras to come through (pretty hard to move a literally planet-sized soul through the twisting nether), and that failed because of how massive the project was


[12-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
can you link that thing again


[12-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't get to click it :sad:


[12-Jan-20 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah @Nebbie, what if there were multiple magical sapient species that could interbreed with each other (I think it was even implied that it would technically be possible for dragons to breed with mortal races)


[12-Jan-20 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
also that's some hot exterminatus action


[12-Jan-20 11:22 AM] Opponent#3498
this reminds me of a little of a more tame version of Badumsquish's world. There, the most common, cheapest and naturally occuring effects are Spirit, Life, Transform. More or less everything can potentially breed with anything, living in a high wild magic concentration area (like Ponyville, next door to Everfree) means you better get used to random species swap every couple months or so.


[12-Jan-20 11:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jan-20 11:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Self fulfilling prophecy, I guess


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[12-Jan-20 02:30 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Jan-20 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
Oh it did the thing again


[12-Jan-20 03:02 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Jan-20 03:03 PM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda)


[12-Jan-20 03:23 PM] ononim#8141
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[12-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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I don't need to translate that to know what it says, lmao


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[12-Jan-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
anyway @Crow that Quilboar RPG factoid is super cool, reminds me of a fe RL cultures where woman could start to live as a man, even taking wives


[12-Jan-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
also


[12-Jan-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Marcus_(paladin)#Legion

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Marcus is a well-traveled human paladin and the main character of the erotic "Steamy Romance Novels" series. He owns a warhorse.
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[12-Jan-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
Bisexual King


[12-Jan-20 06:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-12/u-s-defense-chief-says-hopes-for-bigger-nato-role-in-iraq?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business


[12-Jan-20 06:46 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[12-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
Trying to analize Warcraft from political, social or economical lenses, especially now, is a Sisyphian task


[12-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
because writing is so fucking bad


[12-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
and they have to fucking have some faction conflict, even then they're not officially at war and fighting a same threat


[12-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
like


[12-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
how the fuck production and demographics are still intact


[12-Jan-20 06:48 PM] ononim#8141
after pretty much over a decade of cosntant warfare, sometimes with pretty rough damage to the terrain


[12-Jan-20 06:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/12/defense-secretary-esper-says-trump-didnt-cite-specific-evidence-on-iran-threat-to-four-us-embassies.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

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Defense Secretary Esper said he did not see evidence of a specific tangible threat from Iran, but said he agreed with the president that Iran "probably" had a plan to strike.
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[12-Jan-20 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
like honestly:
vanilla - things are relatively okay, most places are healing after third war or dealing with their rather local threats, a few bigger threats arise later on but they're mostly confined to their own places and are dealt with by ~~murderhobo mercenaries~~ noble adventures, sometimes with nominal help of one of the Faction or NGOs, An'Qirazh is the only exception but even then it's local. There's a few places of faction conflict but it's on down low
BC - I think there was pre-realease event but it was rather small afaik, two new players join, there's conflict, both between the horde and ilidari and legion, but it's contained in another planet, so while sipping resources it doesn't directly hurt anyone. Until the last update there Legion and Kael (RIP him and his character) but it is still contained in one island and is dealt with during a single patch
WotLC - Scourge invasion, so harm to everyone and big allied counter-invasion of Northend. Wrathgate happens, Undercity gets wrecked and two Factions are now at war, all the while fighting a huge existential threat that isn't contained in a small area (plus Maligos, plus Yogsaron), a lot of loses, including damage to home turf
Cata - hey you know what? Full blown war! Shit escalates in old conflict zones, like Ashenvale, Hillsbard. And boom, Cataclysm happens. Two new players, one of which is driven form their home by Sylvanas while she's also doing some biochemial war crimes there and in Hillsbard, huge battle over Andoral, southern Barens is a warzone, et c. All the while fighting Fuck huge omnicidal dragons, his kids, and Lovecraft fan club. In the end they also nuke a major city
Pandaria - war still going on, and while most action is now in Pandaria I am pretty sure the fighting didn't stop on other fronts. But hey, in the end they go and fight Garrosh, wrecking Ogrimmar a bit.


[12-Jan-20 07:11 PM] ononim#8141
And you know what? It is now technically peace, but such important things as status and borders in Ashenvale, Arathi, Hillsbard and Gilneas (which is honestly forgotten, even tho it is capital of a whole nation turned refugee at the moment who want to reclaim it, AND a whole peninsula with a convenient port)


[12-Jan-20 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
WoD - Garrosh escapes to fucking timeline AND alternative dimension fuckery, Horde 1.0 but it's 2.0 (3.0?) invade a bit but most of fighting happens in Draenor, so here that, but it's still resources fighting, and the expansions was rather short, and right after it is...
Legion - whole ass Legion invasion, huge losses from both sides, all in the hometurf. Oh hey, we won now finally some chance for a breather...
BoA - LOL NOPE! War of Thorns, wreck and occupy Ashenvale and Darkshore and War Crime Teldrasil, Alliance retaliates, battle of Undercity, countryside rased and the city is now a death zone (fate of Gilneas is still not told), war continues, Arathi is a full fledged war front, Night Elven resistance in Darkshore. A lot of new comers, with biggest ebing Zandalari and Kul Tiras, who have to spend a lot of effort actually retaking their land from internal foes. Battle for Zandalar, which was pretty huge. Oh whoops now we're also fighting Naga while both factions navies are now in tatters. Whoops we coup horde once again. Whoops, fighting Old God again, but now it's global


[12-Jan-20 07:25 PM] ononim#8141
how does any agriculture, production and demographic withstands all this bullshit, one after another?


[12-Jan-20 07:26 PM] ononim#8141
Also, I can bet, there will be not a single mention of status of Gilneas in the next expansion, and even if there will be, it will be a vague throw away line


[12-Jan-20 07:26 PM] ononim#8141
hell, even status of Night Elves will be probably the same


[12-Jan-20 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/esper-said-he-didn-t-see-intelligence-backing-trump-claim-n1114166

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[12-Jan-20 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically, Trump made shit up, invented the "four embassies" story, and had already decided to drone this guy days before the embassy riot anyway


[12-Jan-20 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And as usually his cronies cover for him as best they can


[12-Jan-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember it's the stupiest possible thing


[12-Jan-20 08:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It would be a bit of a stretch to connect the *actual* reason to the call Trump had with Putin at the end of the year, but given that details of that call are also not forthcoming, ruling it out as a source for influencing Trump's decision to strike in Iran isn't something that can be totally ruled out, either


[12-Jan-20 08:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
iirc Iran is Russia's biggest ally in the region and they probably wouldn't do anything to risk their oil supply. On the other hand, they would *also* likely do something to weaken US influence with minimal risk to iran itself, and... I don't know if they'd go for that kind of play


[12-Jan-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would say this was more a play for impeachment and re-election than russia related


[12-Jan-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He did it to appease his war hawk senate, and possibly start a war because war presidents get re-elected


[12-Jan-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with this strategy is that he doesn't know how to shut up, so now all of his motives are exposed while he keeps escalating things while throwing a rug over it in farshi


[12-Jan-20 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/dellcam/status/1216235172141715456

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[12-Jan-20 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Number big that mean world good


[12-Jan-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1215997563351990273

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Millennials are on track to be the first generation not to exceed their parents in terms of job status or income, studies show. https://t.co/BwKuM8LAhJ
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[12-Jan-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love the amount of people in the comments just saying millenials are lazy and enntitled


[12-Jan-20 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow btw I just read on Drust and lmao this is like blatnant colonialsm and "savage indians" narrative? How did anyone greenlit this?


[12-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
the drust came down from the mountains in drustvar and started to attack settlers in tiragarde sound and stormsong valley to use them for rituals and stuff


[12-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
the house of waycrest were descendants of the dude who went up into the mountains to fight the drust


[12-Jan-20 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
I mean yeah, same how Natives in America "just hated civilization"


[12-Jan-20 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
It's like how the first human zones your enemy is basically militant union


[12-Jan-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
what allowed them to beat the drust to begin with was a few drust turncoats who didn't like what the rest of the drust were doing to the settlers


[12-Jan-20 08:53 PM] ononim#8141
Anyway, blizzard writers really don't do thinking about implications much


[12-Jan-20 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
and the king of the drust, gorak tul, started getting desperate and sacrificed all of his people to bind them into elementals and undead skeletons in a last ditch effort to defeat waycrest, which ultimately failed but resulted in the near-total extinction of the drust


[12-Jan-20 08:54 PM] ononim#8141
"These brave settlers lived in peace in their new land, until the savage monstrous natives started to attakc them for no reason, until finally our brave hero fianlly defeated them, once and for all"


[12-Jan-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
well, there was a reason, it was better to use outsiders for sacrifice for their magical rituals than members of the group, same thing that jungle trolls did


[12-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
also, some of the dialogue in drustvar makes absolutely no sense and is hilarious if you play a death knight or demon hunter, it's like "damn I'm tired of all the evil people with creepy evil glowing eyes" when death knights literally have creepy evil glowing eyes and demon hunters don't even have eyes at all, just eye sockets filled with fel fire


[12-Jan-20 08:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216211286108921858?s=20

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[12-Jan-20 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
I mean, yeah, there's always some reason in universe, telling how it is totally okay to kill "these vile savages who just can't be reasoned with"


[12-Jan-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
there were a couple who could be reasoned with (one seems to be immortal and still alive, he's the one who gave waycrest the means to defeat drust magic)


[12-Jan-20 08:59 PM] ononim#8141
I think that thing is called "thermian argument" or something, and while I am rather critical in its broad use, I think it's a bit blatnant there


[12-Jan-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/domphillips/status/1213202036428283909

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Pres. Bolsonaro said today that school books will be simpler and have Brazilian flag on cover: "A lot of stuff written, you have to soften it," he said. Too many words not often seen as a problem in books, but then again we are in a new alternative reality here. https://t....
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[12-Jan-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is just dystopian


[12-Jan-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He should be impeached for gross intellectual incapacity.


[12-Jan-20 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Too much written stuff"


[12-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When the right says the left can't meme they mean they use too many words


[12-Jan-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're right tbh, we should only be using emojis and grunts from here on in


[12-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck the rich, bottom text" is basically all they want


[12-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick


[12-Jan-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ME NO HAVE TIME TO READ BIG BEARD GERMAN DUDE


[12-Jan-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-legally-killed-suleimani-then-shot-himself-in-the-foot-by-lying-about-it-conservative-columnist/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump legally killed Suleimani — then ‘shot himself in the foo...
In a column for the Washington Post, conservative Max Boot admitted Donald Trump had multiple legal justifications for ordering the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, but that he damaged any benefit he may have received politically by lying about his reasons for calling in th...
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[12-Jan-20 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ME WANT FLAG EMOJIS AND RED CAP


[12-Jan-20 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 😍 👍


[12-Jan-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God i can already imagine what right-wing discourse will sound like in ten years


[12-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"In a column for the Washington Post, conservative _Max Boot_ [...]"


[12-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Orange man bad" is used to mock liberals but like


[12-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't being that simple their ideal


[12-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a perfect slogan, if he were a Democrat it would be used by them

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[12-Jan-20 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[12-Jan-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/01/07/texas-officials-fear-iranian-cyber-attack-attempts-may-be-increasing/

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[12-Jan-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`“What begins as a personal grievance due to perceived rejection by women may morph into allegiance to, and attempts to further, an Incel Rebellion,” the report warned.`

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[12-Jan-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
> In a column for the Washington Post, conservative Max Boot admitted Donald Trump had multiple legal justifications for ordering the assassination of Qassem Soleimani, but that he damaged any benefit he may have received politically by lying about his reasons for calling in the drone strike.
> 
> As Boot sees it, Trump consistently undermines everything that he does by lying about it afterward because he is incapable of telling the truth without embellishing it with obvious fabrications.


[12-Jan-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
cheats don't stop cheating just because they don't have to cheat to win


[12-Jan-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/conservative-group-one-million-moms-burger-king-over-commercial-d-word

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Conservative group slams Burger King over commercial using the 'D-...
Conservative group called the Burger King ad “irresponsible and tasteless.”
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[12-Jan-20 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[12-Jan-20 09:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
damn, one million moms are salty


[12-Jan-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it;s onne million moms


[12-Jan-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s always them


[12-Jan-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I was struggling to imagine how BK had sneaked in, I dunno, _dyke_ or something into a commercial


[12-Jan-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> One man, completely stunned by the Impossible Whopper’s tastiness says: “Damn, that’s good.”

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[12-Jan-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[12-Jan-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
please never let these snowflakes know about the Pittsburgh-area gourmet burger chain Burgatory

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[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
D*mn


[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling they're salty about the plant-based meat substitute being praised


[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
not about the D word


[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, it's OMM. They're upset about the foul language


[12-Jan-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly both at the same time


[12-Jan-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony I went to burgatory and it wasn't that good


[12-Jan-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd rather just go to 5 guys to get the same thing


[12-Jan-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Agreed, but they at least have some clever branding


[12-Jan-20 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you remember how everything was a safe scooby doo clone in the 70's? omm remembers and they want that back


[12-Jan-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like the pitchfork-shaped burger picks and the biblical-themed mottos all over everything


[12-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
One Million Moms should rename themselves to "Millionaire-Funded Moms"


[12-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Scooby Doo had an episode that confirmed ghosts were real


[12-Jan-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or "none of us are moms"


[12-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which I'm pretty sure means Scooby Doo is haram


[12-Jan-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only ghost allowed to exist is the Holy Ghost


[12-Jan-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's confusing


[12-Jan-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what makes him holy if there are no regular ghosts for comparison?


[12-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The bible says so


[12-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the bible is god's word


[12-Jan-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a burning bush sounds more like a satan thing


[12-Jan-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bible is weird


[12-Jan-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
it's crazy shit centered about the idea of making a death cult


[12-Jan-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we kill ourselves and everyone we love, god will give us a new earth!"


[12-Jan-20 10:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Scooby Doo is haram"


[12-Jan-20 10:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear this feels like a Memri TV meme


[12-Jan-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 70's was almost nothing but scooby doo clones because it was the safest goddamned things they could appease the christian censors with


[12-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, obviously the cult of the damned in warcraft is based off of the bible


[12-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
wait, would it be considered a death cult if it technically worships undeath?


[12-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
wouldn't it be considered an undeath cult?


[12-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
what is the separation between death cult and undeath cult when both technically worship death


[12-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiHghDYvpBU

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[12-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRo9bsQJ_VU

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[12-Jan-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the veggies are turning the bible gay!


[12-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God created burgers


[12-Jan-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2019/10/26/morrison-government-paid-empathy-consultant-190000/15720084008976 old but relevant

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Morrison government paid empathy consultant $190,000
In a week of senate estimates marked by obfuscation, one official revealed the cost of teaching bureaucrats to interact humanely with farmers facing drought.
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[12-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Damn" is used on fukking *Star Trek* to avoid swearing


[12-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then again, Star Trek isn't something watched by religious nutcases.


[12-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think most religious nutcases at the time hated scifi in general


[12-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was the devils future!


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467516346859520020/666019029269348374/IMG_20200112_101054.jpg

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[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
okay


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
so


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
I seen this in a server


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
and saw the patch


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
ans went


[12-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, Brazilian swat


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141

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[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
because the initial


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
BOPE


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
is the same as ВОРЕ


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
aka russian for "vore"


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This looks like it is supposed to be furry Rainbow Six Art.


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's probably Rainbow 6 yiff art


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
but then I noticed it is in latin alphabet


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
and was like "huh"


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta bope the fuck out of there scoob


[12-Jan-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
and I googled it


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
and learned uhhhhhh about the actual group


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
and turns out my reaction was right for the wrong reason lol


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are they a political group?


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
the're Brazilian Military Police


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
very controversal with their methods, to say the least


[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/g6jiQ4LKnFmndiLxVuPzMV-970-80.jpg

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[12-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're military armed police that raid favella gangs


[12-Jan-20 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
one my Brazilian pal described them as "Basically punisher skull muricans but as an institution"


[12-Jan-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalh%C3%A3o_de_Opera%C3%A7%C3%B5es_Policiais_Especiais#Controversy

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Batalh%C3%A3o_de_Opera%C3%A7%C3%B5es_Policiais_Especiais
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[12-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_"are we the baddies?" sketch starts playing in the background_


[12-Jan-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well having a name that means we will literally eat you is probably a good extra bit of intimidation factor.


[12-Jan-20 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈

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[12-Jan-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
:notification:


[12-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put some decals showing using teeth to tear apart the flesh of a Favella gang etc.


[12-Jan-20 10:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Anyway this is a protected language now. 
https://youtu.be/fj4w6SCn2ZM

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Angelos & Barry
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The Ulster-Scots "Language"
A quare wee story, hai!
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[12-Jan-20 10:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If you don't understand it is basically what Liam Neeson sounds like drunk.


[12-Jan-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then it's a national treasure.


[12-Jan-20 11:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://apnews.com/9ca4a9910ede3e11b2fbf085189e628b

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Oman names culture minister as successor to Sultan Qaboos
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Oman announced Saturday culture minister Haitham bin Tariq Al Said as the new ruler of the Gulf Arab country, ending speculation over the mystery of who would...
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[12-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
wrong channel?


[12-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Bravewind#2636
...yes


[12-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right, time to watch Joker and see what all the fuss is about

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[13-Jan-20 12:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/entjal/the_best_moment_in_the_restoration_of_government/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

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The best moment in the restoration of Government in my opinion.
Posted in r/northernireland by u/ryanbudgie • 139 points and 14 comments
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🇬🇧 oof 

[13-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So far joker is making me feel that... what's it called, that thing that's between sympathy and pity


[13-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's the "artist intent" I think


[13-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
a lot of reviewers missed that


[13-Jan-20 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Definitely uncomfortable


[13-Jan-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not sure where the best place is for this, so I'll pasta this here from another server


[13-Jan-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>  there is an issue with Discord QR codes that can cause account compromise. While originally intended to enable quick login, Discord's implementation is, shall we say...in need of improvement. Therefore, do NOT scan QR login codes for Discord with your mobile device. If you insist, make SURE you are only scanning from Discord's official website, and NEVER anywhere else.


[13-Jan-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what I wanna know is why discord has qr codes to begin with


[13-Jan-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are scenes from Joker that are clearly intended to make you deeply uncomfortable on a physical level.


[13-Jan-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Two parts to note are his bakk seen when he's stretching shoes and his emaciated stomach region when he's on a couch.


[13-Jan-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sets the tone I think.


[13-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That of him being very physically not okay, of everything being disgusting/ugly/not okay.


[13-Jan-20 12:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Like watching a cringe compilation of a fandom you are in.


[13-Jan-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the thing is


[13-Jan-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
those specific shots should work to get both liberals and conservatives' gears turning.


[13-Jan-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals tend to feel a lot of empathy


[13-Jan-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives tend to feel a lot of disgust


[13-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They combine both


[13-Jan-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this way, while it's overall a liberal viewpoint being expressed (FUND YOUR HEALTH SERVICES FOR THE POOR JESUS FUKKING CHRIST YOU RICH SHITS OR EVERYTHING GOES TO SHIT AND PEOPLE SUFFER), it gets both sides actually looking


[13-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wait how does this revolver have 8 chambers


[13-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's 7 shot revolvers too


[13-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
5 shot too, the most common is 6 shot though


[13-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.gunsamerica.com/984633748/guns/pistols/smith-wesson-revolvers/full-frame-revolver/smith_and_wesson_model_327_nightguard_357_revolver_8_round.htm

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Smith and Wesson model 327 NightGuard .357 Revo... for sale
Like new NightGuard.  This is a great revolver.  Shoots well and is extremely easy in terms of recoil.  Has a very nice trigger even when firing double act...
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[13-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OK, apparently they are indeed a thing


[13-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Cylinders typically hold six cartridges (hence revolvers sometimes are referred to as "six-shooters"), but some small-frame revolvers hold only 5 cartridges, due to the smaller overall size of the gun and small available space. The Nagant M1895 revolver has a 7-shot cylinder, the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver has an 8-shot cylinder in .38 caliber, and the LeMat Revolver has a 9-shot cylinder. Several models of .22 rimfire-caliber revolvers have cylinders holding 9 or 10 rounds.


[13-Jan-20 01:04 AM] ae#4236
r8 irl


[13-Jan-20 01:04 AM] ae#4236
but who can make the tiniest revolver in the world :ponythink:


[13-Jan-20 01:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://science.howstuffworks.com/smallest-gun-in-world1.htm

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What's the world's smallest gun?
The SwissMiniGun, specifically the Miniature Revolver C1ST or Nr.A1YG, is highly coveted. Read about the SwissMiniGun and why it's hard to get your hands on it.
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[13-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-says-trump-will-issue-new-rules-to-expand-constitutional-prayer-in-public-schools/#comments_section_start

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White House says Trump will issue new rules to expand ‘constitut...
President Donald Trump plans to introduce new guidance for expanding “constitutional prayer” in public schools. According to CBS News broadcaster Steven Portnoy, Trump’s schedule for Thursday includes an announcement about “guidance on constitutional prayer in public ...
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[13-Jan-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thus began the age of a thousand lawsuits because this shit only covers christians


[13-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ dude


[13-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
trump's going all out to try and win back evangelicals


[13-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
My history teacher was a man of god but he would ask us first if we would want to leave the room if they felt uncomfortable about the prayer. I respect my teacher to this day, what Trump is doing really grinds my gears. He is cramming religion down our throats


[13-Jan-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not just any religion, but christianity!


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
> My history teacher was a man of god but he would ask us first if we would want to leave the room if they felt uncomfortable about the prayer.


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
this is still inappropriate


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only time there was prayer in my schools was Native American studies


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
probably illegal too


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This is obviously a poltical move to woo Republicans and his base to his side for not only the impeachment trial but also the 2020 election.


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the prayer should have never been held


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
class started with a prayer with burning tobacco


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they did ask me if I was okay with it


[13-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
is blatantly illegal


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
prayer is something to be done on your own time, not on the government's dime


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I forget most of the words now to the prayer


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No one really cared to leave the classroom.


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was all in Blackfeet


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
all it really takes to get away with breaking the law is for no one to do anything about it


[13-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ayo Itsikapi...something something...Ikki Nappi, Aka Nappi, Ktsun...something something Ah


[13-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Plus we liked our teacher so we didn't have an issue with it


[13-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And this is coming from someone who has a bone to pick with their overly religious god fearing grandparents


[13-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-buried-in-scorn-for-self-pitying-tweet-that-he-now-has-the-stigma-of-impeachment-attached-to-his-name/

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Trump buried in scorn for self-pitying tweet that he now has ‘th...
As part of his Twitter barrage on Sunday, Donald Trump whined about the unfairness of having the “stigma” of being impeached attached to his name and said the whole proceeding is an affront to millions of voters. After lashing out House Speaker Nancy (D-CA) and Rep. Adam ...
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[13-Jan-20 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what a brat. The one thing he actually earned in his life, and he doesn't even want it

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[13-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Agreed. No wonder NATO leaders laughed at him at the Summit


[13-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Read this as "now has ligma"


[13-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/the-more-they-learn-the-more-trump-loses-support-from-americans-on-iran-actions/

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The more they learn the more Trump loses support from Americans on...
Presidents once saw dramatic upswings when they approve military action. President Donald Trump changed that when he ordered a strike against Iran. A September 2019 University of Maryland poll foreshadowed the trouble Trump would face with the public if the crisis with Iran e...
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[13-Jan-20 02:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[13-Jan-20 02:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My English homework wtf


[13-Jan-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this homework is sponsored by express vpn!


[13-Jan-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
your english homework is gonna get someone disappeared


[13-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
this is obvious resistance to the ruling party


[13-Jan-20 02:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There are always ads in our English homeworks... But it's the first time to see an ads of ExpressVPN, which is already banned here...


[13-Jan-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610

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[13-Jan-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
my brain autofilled "the big gay"


[13-Jan-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, he's had the big gay for decades, nothing new there

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[13-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he has the super mega gay


[13-Jan-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
maga gay


[13-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/477924-trump-says-he-couldnt-care-less-if-iran-wants-to-negotiate

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Trump says he 'couldn't care less' if Iran wants to negotiate
President Trump said Sunday that he "couldn’t care less" if Iranian officials wish to negotiate with the U.S., a remark that comes shortly after his national security adviser went on television to tout how the administration's "maximum p
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[13-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He doesn't want war, he doesn't want regime change, he doesn't want negotiations...


[13-Jan-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
he wants ivanka in bed with him


[13-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf does he want? Weekly videos of US cruise missiles blowing up brown people?

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[13-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Money


[13-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> He spent his whole campaign telling everyone that he would negotiate a fantastic new deal with Iran. Where is it? Is he waiting for Mexico to pay for it?

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[13-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Total unconditional surrender and wholesale access to Iranian oilwells?


[13-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, he did admit he wanted the oil in that Fox interview


[13-Jan-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
producing oil in the quantities the middle east does is very hard but there is no way that trump is actually aware of this


[13-Jan-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He probably thinks you can just put a hose in the ground, fill a barrel with crude, ship it to the US in a boat, and make a million dollars


[13-Jan-20 02:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He doesn't care about that, he just does it for the shock factor like creepypasta


[13-Jan-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what I think most people think oil production is like


[13-Jan-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
or shit like pumpjacks


[13-Jan-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
where you get to control the rate at which the formation is flowed


[13-Jan-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
people don't seem to realize that there was a CIA coup in iran in 1953 which is pretty much the reason why the shah went full authoritarian and caused the 1979 revolution


[13-Jan-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
people just seem to think that the whole religious extremism thing came out of nowhere


[13-Jan-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
and not in response to an increasingly authoritarian king


[13-Jan-20 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
how about that time we sold weapons to the rebels


[13-Jan-20 02:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
@AlchemistLiang Is there an ad for ***RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS***?


[13-Jan-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Enter the promo code and download raid: shadow homework today!


[13-Jan-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how "Foreign Aid" is really just "We give this country tax payer money to buy american weapons we built with tax payer money"


[13-Jan-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, people have this concept that the US gives countries _money_


[13-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that doesn't happen, they give countries credit to buy specific products "made in america"


[13-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/trump-administration-rolls-back-obama-era-joint-employer-rule

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Trump administration rolls back Obama era 'joint employer' rule
The White House has formally rolled back one of the Obama administration's most ambitious attempts to rewrite federal labor law to benefit unions, the so-called joint employer rule.
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[13-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If Trump had it his way we would be living under industrial revolution standards


[13-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's called anarcho-capitalism


[13-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
or ancap for short


[13-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

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Anarcho-capitalism
Anarcho-capitalism is a political philosophy and economic theory that advocates the elimination of centralized states in favor of self-ownership, private property and free markets. Anarcho-capitalists hold that in the absence of statute (which they describe as law by arbitrar...


[13-Jan-20 02:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This is what we get for electing a six time bankrupt elitist robberan


[13-Jan-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
trump doesn't want ancap


[13-Jan-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
he wants fascism


[13-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump just wants to fill his purse with as much money as he can carry and jump ship, his minions feel the same way. No sense staying on a sinking ship


[13-Jan-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he is ousted from the white house, he'll likely attempt to flee for sanctuary in russia


[13-Jan-20 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
More than anything Trump just wants to undo anything Obama put his name to


[13-Jan-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even if it was something Trump might benefit from


[13-Jan-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this pretty much, if obama's name is on it. it;s got to go


[13-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump won't leave the country, Rudy and Miller they might but Trump is too prideful to run. He is just going to go to his castle in Floridia and watch as his fortune slips beneath him like pillars of salt and sand.


[13-Jan-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh the fortune slipping part happened a while ago


[13-Jan-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you underestimate the fact that trump is more of a fragile coward than a prideful fighter


[13-Jan-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
everything he's done for years now has been built on a lie propped up by the only bank that would give him loans - a bank that *just so happened* to be underwritten by a Russian bank sanctioned by the US at the time


[13-Jan-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the russian oligarchs, he'd be a trailer park car salesman right now


[13-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump


[13-Jan-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Although if the reports from within Deutsche Bank are to be believed, the Russian bank may have bankrolled those loans directly


[13-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Sally Moon#4922
his reputation also has damaged his brand. His golden cow the Dorai is losing money by the day.


[13-Jan-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is a man who bankrupted a casino. He needed no help damaging his brand

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[13-Jan-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially aftewr he tried to scam the g7 council with it


[13-Jan-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit, did not sit well with anyone involved


[13-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And funnel money into his golf course in Scotland


[13-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If its this bad for Trump god knows how it will affect his children's inheritance


[13-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I am not sure Trump Vodka will pay the bills


[13-Jan-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well itwill definetly effect their ability to do behind the scenes dirty work, when their everymove is watched by federal agents


[13-Jan-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think his kids already know they're not getting any inheritance based on the scams they themselves have been caught up in


[13-Jan-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump also wouldnt give inheritence. Trump doesnt give, he takes


[13-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The book scam and the rental fraud?


[13-Jan-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the childrens cancer fund fraud


[13-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I forgot about the charity scam


[13-Jan-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump also had a sister which was not a well known fact befor ehe became president, but largely she was deep in the judiciary bramch helping her family fly crimes under the radar. His presidency upended that and pointed a very large spotlight on it


[13-Jan-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep, she was *disbarred*


[13-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I remember Trump jr.s book "Triggered" That one reviwer said read like a trolley tweeter post.


[13-Jan-20 03:18 AM] Macarou#9574
Trump Jr wrote "Triggered"? Now I am very curious


[13-Jan-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s alternate title for everyone else was "Why won't you love me daddy. Please just love me, daddy!"


[13-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And this smuckwas floating around that he would consider running for President


[13-Jan-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s biggest buyer was the trump campaign 2020 which while boosting it;sratings to a top seller list, also put a mark next to it identifying all those copies were sodl to one source


[13-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Really?


[13-Jan-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[13-Jan-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think the intention was the campaign staff woudl give the book away at rallies


[13-Jan-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the first ever book meeting with trump jr was a spectacular failure as it triggered conservatives instead of liberals


[13-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
How did he trigger the conservatives?


[13-Jan-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on i'll find ann article


[13-Jan-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/11/donald-trump-jr-walks-out-of-triggered-book-launch-after-heckling-from-supporters

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Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling ...
Event at University of California is cut short amid anger at his refusal to take questions from the audience
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[13-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfe8tyMV7zo

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The Tim Dillon Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfe8tyMV7zo
I Am Endorsing Michael Bloomberg For President
Hey guys I am endorsing Michael Bloomberg for president. After this interaction with one of his supporters I realize he is the best candidate.
TimDillonComedy.com for tickets.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Jfe8tyMV7zo/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Jr has worst temperament than his father.


[13-Jan-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
you could say he was


[13-Jan-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
triggered


[13-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
:dashlaugh:


[13-Jan-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*Triggered by the right, revved up like a douche, he rolled right out of sight*


[13-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard the international community doesn't like Ivanka


[13-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good


[13-Jan-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they do not, especially since trump keeps trying to use her as a diplomat


[13-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
how did that go?


[13-Jan-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the song he was referencing <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzk3x3HZbJI>


[13-Jan-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one took her seriously because being a diplomat takes experience and schooling


[13-Jan-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none of which she has at all


[13-Jan-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it made several countries leaders feel like trump saw them as a joke


[13-Jan-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also sent her several times to events he himself wassupposed to attend


[13-Jan-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all because he would rather golf than be president


[13-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I do kinda feel bad for her but then gain she took the job knowing she had no experience


[13-Jan-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she took it to boost her clothing line


[13-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Did it work?


[13-Jan-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[13-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
oof

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[13-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
> Why is everyone hating on Bloomberg??
> I got a lobotomy the other day and now I realize he'd be the perfect president!


[13-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
can being wasted be considered a form of temporary chemical lobotomization?


[13-Jan-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
google says: maybe?


[13-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thestate.com/opinion/article239206718.html


[13-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
>  While Bernie Sanders has always stood up for African Americans, Joe Biden has repeatedly let us down


[13-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
> As a recent NBC News headline said of Biden’s time in the Senate: “Biden didn’t just compromise with segregationists. He fought for their cause.” The NBC report quoted the NAACP’s legal director saying that one Biden-backed measure “heaves a brick through the window of school integration.”


[13-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
> And Biden didn’t just vote for bills designed to prevent black students from accessing white schools: in a series of personal letters he actively courted pro-segregation senators to support the legislation


[13-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that biden is racist


[13-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
> Sanders, by contrast, began his work in politics by organizing civil rights protests. As a college student, he helped lead a local chapter of the Congress of Racial Equality in its push to desegregate housing. Sanders participated in the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s March on Washington and was arrested for protesting rampant school segregation in Chicago. In addition, Sanders has been pushing an education plan that supports local efforts to combat racial segregation.


[13-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[13-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His smile and optimism, never gone


[13-Jan-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.ksat.com/news/defenders/2020/01/03/sapd-officer-who-gave-homeless-man-a-feces-sandwich-trying-to-win-back-job-for-a-second-time/

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SAPD officer who gave homeless man a feces sandwich trying to win ...
A fired San Antonio police officer who won reinstatement last year despite giving a homeless man a feces sandwich, is still awaiting arbitration for a second indefinite suspension in an unrelated incident.
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[13-Jan-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
_I'm the scatman_


[13-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Opponent#3498
```"Too much written stuff"```


[13-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Opponent#3498
have Trump issued a call for something like this yet?


[13-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Opponent#3498
that books bring bad thoughts, and the only tentatively good one is the Bible?


[13-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Opponent#3498
that they muddle and confuse the mind etc


[13-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Opponent#3498
I hope he would, it'd definitely be my fan favorite.


[13-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
```It's a perfect slogan, if he were a Democrat it would be used by them```


[13-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
easy to understand, extremely vague making it easy to defend. It really is perfection.


[13-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
```cheats don't stop cheating just because they don't have to cheat to win```


[13-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
smart ones do. His greatest crime is, he's not one of those.


[13-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
```what is the separation between death cult and undeath cult when both technically worship death```
in a situation where Death is one of the Powers of the world, and undeath being the physical manifestation of it, well, they're distinct, but only if one pays attention.


[13-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Opponent#3498
```Like, people have this concept that the US gives countries money
But that doesn't happen, they give countries credit to buy specific products "made in america"```


[13-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Opponent#3498
true, I actually had the view for the longest time (until you people corrected me, actually)


[13-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Opponent#3498
US aid was presented in the news very differently from anyone else (without mentioning specific products), so it created a false impression


[13-Jan-20 08:45 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
Will there be WWIII? I'm worried about the US and Iran


[13-Jan-20 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
in a word, nah.


[13-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There might be an Iraq 2.


[13-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now with more wastefulness and no international bakking.

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[13-Jan-20 09:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6166332bcaacb7067a2b87144fa30a9d

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Ahead of impeachment trial, Trump suggests not having it
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says the Senate should simply dismiss the impeachment case against him, an extraordinary suggestion as the House prepares to transmit the charges to the...
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[13-Jan-20 09:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess we know mcconnell's first move in the trial now


[13-Jan-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/01/08/low-unemployment-isnt-worth-much-if-the-jobs-barely-pay/

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Luisa Zottis
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/01/08/low-unemployment-isnt-worth-much-if-the-jobs-barely-pay/
Low unemployment isn’t worth much if the jobs barely pay
We should look at individuals—not national averages—as the unit of analysis, and ask: Are wages adequate for full-time workers?
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2019-12-31T214106Z_2002013409_RC2L6E9GBD9C_RTRMADP_3_USA-STOCKS.jpg


[13-Jan-20 09:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you cant live comfortably on your own without a house/room mate much less support a family with 2 people working then the wages are not at all adequate


[13-Jan-20 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yesterday it took me $28 to buy a small box of tea, some shampoo/body wash, a gallon of milk, and 2 boxes of toaster strudels, and a new computer mouse.... that shit should have costed me at most $15 going by current wage standards


[13-Jan-20 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/O2ytv8A

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The Cost of American Education
https://i.imgur.com/S12FC6lh.jpg


[13-Jan-20 11:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more in source


[13-Jan-20 01:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Now all of Ireland has the big gay. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51086276

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Same-sex marriage now legal in Northern Ireland
Couples can register to marry and those married outside of NI will have marriages legally recognised.
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[13-Jan-20 01:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374315880584052736/665175884214304778/Bomb_Iran.mp4

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[13-Jan-20 02:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jan-20 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jan-20 03:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Environmentalist? I think you mean enviroTERRORIST!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/13/priti-patel-defends-inclusion-of-extinction-rebellion-on-terror-list

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Patel defends police over Extinction Rebellion inclusion on extrem...
Home secretary accepts XR is not terror group but says assessment has to be based on ‘security risks’
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[13-Jan-20 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
Kinda wish they were ecoterroist tbh


[13-Jan-20 03:53 PM] ononim#8141
they're super brainlet libs who not jsut mostly do pointless things, but also activelly counterproductive and dangerous for them and their fellow activists things

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[13-Jan-20 04:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Marukomuru No... But I can find an ad of Second Life on our English textbook

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[13-Jan-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cc38e0b9f4449773babb929e58706301

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Supreme Court rejects appeal in texting suicide case
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday left in place the conviction of a Massachusetts woman who sent her boyfriend text messages urging him to kill himself. Michelle Carter is...
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[13-Jan-20 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/cory-booker-ends-presidential-race/index.html

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Cory Booker ends 2020 presidential campaign
Sen. Cory Booker announced Monday that he will end his campaign after failing to qualify for the Democratic debate planned for Tuesday in Iowa.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191016005137-cory-booker-debate-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[13-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No chance of Cory in the House

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[13-Jan-20 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Another one bites the dust


[13-Jan-20 05:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/01/13/the-equality-conundrum

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The Equality Conundrum
We all agree that inequality is bad. But what kind of equality is good?
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[13-Jan-20 05:42 PM] ononim#8141
```In the course of his search, he explores centuries of intellectual history. Many thinkers, from Cicero to Locke, have argued that our ability to reason is what makes us equals. (But isn’t this ability itself unequally distributed?) Other thinkers, including Immanuel Kant, have cited our moral sense. (But doesn’t this restrict equality to the virtuous?) Some philosophers, such as Jeremy Bentham, have suggested that it’s our capacity to suffer that equalizes us. (But then, many animals suffer, too.) Others have nominated our capacity to love. (But what about selfish, hard-hearted people?) It would be helpful, on a practical level, if there were a well-defined basis for our deep equality.```


[13-Jan-20 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/rsRjQDrDnY8

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Sesame Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8
Sesame Street: One of These Things
If you're watching videos with your preschooler and would like to do so in a safe, child-friendly environment, please join us at http://www.sesamestreet.org

What doesn't belong?

Sesame Street is a production of Sesame Workshop, a nonprofit educational organization which...
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[13-Jan-20 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
||yeah I stole the combination of that quote with that video sue me||


[13-Jan-20 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_presidential as fuck_

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[13-Jan-20 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Did Trump just https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1216757291359272960?s=21

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Team Trump (Text FIRST to 88022) (@TeamTrump)
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1216757291359272960?s=21
.@CoryBooker https://t.co/tjLERsVYRD
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[13-Jan-20 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
whos number is that btw?


[13-Jan-20 06:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Stopid boi Trump


[13-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
and the idea to spam him with his own name is? Remind him what it is, just in case? :/


[13-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
cause I gotta admit, it's lackluster even for ego-boosting purposes.


[13-Jan-20 06:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Stopid


[13-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[13-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
These "text X to 123456" things, they charge you


[13-Jan-20 06:45 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s been doing that since last month


[13-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, so it's donations. To Trump. Lovely.


[13-Jan-20 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So when someone sends a text to that number, they get charged a dollar or whatever


[13-Jan-20 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
reminds me of PragerU asking for donations.


[13-Jan-20 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Back in the days before whatsapp and the like, iirc you'd get warned about the charge after hitting "send" to confirm it


[13-Jan-20 06:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh


[13-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You see a lot of these sort of campaigns used by stuff like oxfam or MSF, "Text HELP to 345342 to help children in Africa"


[13-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And also used by contest shows on TV


[13-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Opponent#3498
ah. Right, good to know.


[13-Jan-20 06:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Trust me, if you go to his shady ass so call war room (petty room) on Twitter


[13-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Send DANIEL or BARRY to 62352 to vote for the winner!"


[13-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, voting costs 65 cents of whatever, but that's in the tiny tiny print at the bottom of the screen you can't even read on a 4k screen without sitting a foot away from it


[13-Jan-20 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Here’s another one https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1209568426525462528?s=21

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Trump War Room --- Text FIGHT to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1209568426525462528?s=21
Under President Trump, Americans can say "Merry Christmas!" again! https://t.co/vdjuNxrZwJ
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[13-Jan-20 06:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Rubbing his face all over it


[13-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I'm sure that's all of them.


[13-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Not yet


[13-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
And another one https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1207756501814779904?s=21

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Trump War Room --- Text FIGHT to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1207756501814779904?s=21
When you wake up and you’re still President of the United States. https://t.co/tXwUHmr1tT
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[13-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Good God


[13-Jan-20 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For Trump, it seems it also signs you up to receive text messages back


[13-Jan-20 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically autosubscribes you to an SMS version of his twitter


[13-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wouldn't be surprised if they reverse charge people for those messages...


[13-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
there can be no **winning** without a cost :D


[13-Jan-20 06:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Most of his video got that *Text FIGHT (or TRUMP) to 88022*


[13-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://88022-info.com/

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http://88022-info.com/
Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.


[13-Jan-20 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Geez https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1215414275356987399?s=21

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Democrat Adam Smith said on TV it is time for Nancy Pelosi to stop withholding the articles of impeachment from the Senate.
 
Shortly after, Smith claimed he “misspoke.”
 
Now we know why! https://t.co/p2DwAuoWn9
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[13-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[13-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Relevant part of all that is "we don't use an autodialer, BUT YOU AGREE TO RECEIVING AUTODIALED MESSAGES" and more importantly "and you understand that consent is not required to make any purchase from Us."


[13-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally, if you send a text message to that number, you explicitly opt in to them charging you for automated messages back


[13-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the scammiest thing on the planet and I am astounded that it's legal


[13-Jan-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1209145847155482624?s=21

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The Democrat debates are showing Americans just how small and weak their candidates are.

None of these losers stand a chance against President Donald Trump⁩! #FourMoreYears! https://t.co/7OOy0Aa18S
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[13-Jan-20 07:00 PM] illumnious#7938
What selfies got to do with any of this?


[13-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Bernie will get the nom


[13-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also some Dem advisor said "He is our party's Trump" as if that's a bad thing


[13-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like how the right was mad at being offered mealy-mouthed moderates, so too is the left


[13-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People heckle Pete for a reason


[13-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno anymore


[13-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie said he would release a list of judges he'd pick soon too


[13-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US politics is too retarded to rationalize


[13-Jan-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are mad and want to be mad


[13-Jan-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Talked with my parents about this over the holidays, they don't get it


[13-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't believe me when I say the level of discourse they were used to was never what people wanted


[13-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People never wanted compromise or listening to others


[13-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want political violence and name calling.


[13-Jan-20 07:35 PM] illumnious#7938
bullshit https://www.idropnews.com/news/vermont-politician-proposes-banning-cellphones-from-anyone-under-21/126803/?utm_content=notifications&utm_campaign=notifications&utm_source=notifications&utm_medium=notifications&utm_term=notifications

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Vermont Politician Proposes Banning Cellphones from Anyone Under 21
While some states are growing concerned with things like Juuls and gun access, one Vermont representative has decided to take the next step and propose a
https://cdn.idropnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/13103339/Young-Adults-and-Teenagers-Using-Phones.jpg


[13-Jan-20 07:35 PM] illumnious#7938
bullshit


[13-Jan-20 07:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not a serious proposal


[13-Jan-20 07:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just a politician shitposting with taxpayer money to complain about increased age requirements from selling guns and tobacco


[13-Jan-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And of course, every news site in the US is falling for it and giving the guy exactly what he wanted


[13-Jan-20 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
mainstream media is predictable.


[13-Jan-20 08:02 PM] illumnious#7938
the age is bullshit


[13-Jan-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
iirc the increase of age on guns isn't even a hard one, just 'must recieve minimal intruction and training to do it'


[13-Jan-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
(which I would say should be mandatory for anyone, assuming there's no legal roadblocks to recieving said instructions/training)


[13-Jan-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yeah...


[13-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
It's such a goddamn boomer sentiment


[13-Jan-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
"Phone bad"


[13-Jan-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"phone bad, gun good"


[13-Jan-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51077553

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Taiwan's Tsai wins second presidential term
President Tsai Ing-wen sweeps to victory in what is seen as a rebuke to China's growing influence.
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[13-Jan-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
@ byte it also might not be nessesarily wrong


[13-Jan-20 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it's just that the guy's using it for memes instead of thinking about it


[13-Jan-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

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Donald Trump’s Worst Deal
The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59097eeffba4e90c8d8d8ecf/16:9/w_1200,h_630,c_limit/170313_r29531.jpg


[13-Jan-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jan-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Sieg heil, buddy


[13-Jan-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
The _real_ difference is that this guy actually likes Hitler's ideas :twismug:


[13-Jan-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ideas are great, the executions were terrible though


[13-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.li/pzWfZ

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Opinion | Bernie Sanders Wants to Change Your Mind - The New York ...
archived 13 Jan 2020 17:25:40 UTC
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[13-Jan-20 09:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Judging by the title I'mma spitball and suggest the author just wants to bitch about how he has a right to have unchanging oppinions and doesn't want to be challenged on the Market Place of Ideas despite advocating it


[13-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's an interview with several NYT staffers


[13-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As in, several interviewing Bernie


[13-Jan-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/lukeisamazing/status/1216525757461213185?s=20

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the thicc husband & father (@lukeisamazing)
https://twitter.com/lukeisamazing/status/1216525757461213185?s=20
this asshole has more money than god and he donated less than the woman selling nudes on Insta raised before they deleted her photos like a bunch of cowardly cowards
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[13-Jan-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
Thot power


[13-Jan-20 09:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thot critique: the E-Thot in question is a well known racist.
E-Thot based solution to the thot: go to a different E-Girl with far better politics to donate through and help make better another E-Girl.

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[13-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What if she's the only one donating


[13-Jan-20 09:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think there are others,in the discourse surrounding her others were mentioned.


[13-Jan-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao when I see people post the Ricky Gervais rant


[13-Jan-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine taking the drunken ramblings of a hack who didn't even make the version of the thing people actually remember seriously


[13-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[13-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the "wah wah, my soapbox isn't as big as the Hollywood actor's" argument again


[13-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't watch celebrity nonsense, what happen


[13-Jan-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The People Choice Awards, intro had him saying "No one cares about your politics, you are so removed from the world, take your trophy and fuck off" basically


[13-Jan-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My opinion about him doing that is above.


[13-Jan-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i doubt Gervais would be smart and aware enough to intend to make a critique of capitalism, he was likely just doing the usual and being an insufferable asshole for sake


[13-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shoulda invited Jimmy Carr


[13-Jan-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, imagine being the creator of a British verison of a show where anyone but you can firmly say "Yeah, the American version is better"


[13-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(I haven't watched either)


[13-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(should probably fix that at some point)


[13-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never watched the office, british or otherwise


[13-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have however seen the mighty boosh, that show was great


[13-Jan-20 10:20 PM] ononim#8141
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[13-Jan-20 10:20 PM] ononim#8141
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[13-Jan-20 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Btw this dude died today


[13-Jan-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-campaign-adviser-pleads-guilty-to-child-porn-sex-trafficking/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Trump Campaign Adviser Pleads Guilty to Child Porn, Sex Trafficking
An informal adviser to Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign who testified in the Mueller probe pleaded guilty Monday to charges of child sex trafficking and possessing child pornography.
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[14-Jan-20 12:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Rub it for her you stiff!

Trump's people are very fine people.


[14-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/478060-us-wine-consumption-dropped-for-first-time-in-a-quarter-century-last-year

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U.S. wine consumption drops for first time in 25 years
The number of Americans drinking wine dropped for the first time since 1994, according to industry tracker IWSR.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/wine_thinkstock.jpg


[14-Jan-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another victim of the serial murderers; millennials


[14-Jan-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never got the appeal of wine


[14-Jan-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I get the appeal of red but not white


[14-Jan-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve never had white wine


[14-Jan-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
White wine is just champagne without the fizz


[14-Jan-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Red wine tastes like mould with a hint of sugar and alcohol


[14-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
red wine tastes bad


[14-Jan-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i;m not really into champagne either so i guess that;s out


[14-Jan-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never really got why the terrible tasting stuff is the favored, fancy alchohol


[14-Jan-20 12:23 AM] ononim#8141
wow


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
*WOW*


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
first you like raisins


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
AND NOW YOU HATE WINE?


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
:trixdisgust:


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
I wish we were still in calssical era


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] ononim#8141
at least in the view of wine consumption


[14-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
raisins arent rotten grapes, wine is


[14-Jan-20 12:25 AM] ononim#8141
i.e. not some fancy drink but a regular obe


[14-Jan-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Raisins are basically natural gummy candies


[14-Jan-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that are delicious in cookies


[14-Jan-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
careful now


[14-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But what about


[14-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
raisin wine


[14-Jan-20 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
:trixdisgustL:


[14-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
never had it


[14-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to try mead


[14-Jan-20 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Depends on the type of red you get.


[14-Jan-20 12:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
There are ones with a smoother flavor, less dry.


[14-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/lev-parnas-house-documents/index.html

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Giuliani associate Lev Parnas turns over thousands of pages of doc...
An attorney for Lev Parnas, the indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, has turned over photos, dozens of text messages and thousands of pages of documents to House impeachment investigators in an effort to win his client an audience with lawmakers.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191217152836-lev-parnas-1217-super-tease.jpg


[14-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No real info, but, I guess a reminder that this guy thinks he has dirt that'll shave off his prison time


[14-Jan-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or he thinks he's a made man and is flipping while he yet has breath in his body


[14-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-witness-george-nader-sentenced-child-porn-sex-trafficking-charges>


[14-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Nader admitted that he discussed child pornography online over the years with an unidentified associated, using the word “wine” as a substitute for child pornography to conceal the nature of the conversations.`


[14-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this why you brought up millennials killing wine, @Itsthinking ...


[14-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder


[14-Jan-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[14-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[14-Jan-20 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Leave it to Fox to remind people that Nader was a Mueller witness first and foremost and not, y'know, that he was an illegal campaign donor


[14-Jan-20 01:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to be fair that is kinda what made him a witness


[14-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, the article tries really hard to jam in Mueller and Clinton in there above all else


[14-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta get over halfway through to see the word "trump", and most people don't read beyond the first paragraph if they even get past the headline


[14-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not _lying_, but they're making it so that people will associate "Mueller probe" with "the witnesses were all criminals!"


[14-Jan-20 01:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.imgur.com/wYWYQu4.png

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[14-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and never link that all these criminals were trumpies)


[14-Jan-20 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
100 miles lol https://twitter.com/dhs_wolf/status/1216068971977269248?s=21

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First 100 miles and counting. Thank you @POTUS. https://t.co/BFVRF3hwry
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[14-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, it looks like a cutscene from Postal 2


[14-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How are these people so bad at speeches


[14-Jan-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they're nepotism hires who never had to demonstrate even a semblance of competence


[14-Jan-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they could have all flunked high school


[14-Jan-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
in fact probably a lot of them did


[14-Jan-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
support for trump is highest among the uneducated


[14-Jan-20 01:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump loves the poorly educated and they love him.


[14-Jan-20 01:59 AM] illumnious#7938
Wall works


[14-Jan-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sawzaws work too


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I know everyone pronounces it like that but it's a sawzall


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, i have never seen it in writing


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thank you


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway that won't cut through this wall very quickly


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
a concrete saw will though


[14-Jan-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
so will a plasma or oxy torch


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] illumnious#7938
SWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZAAAAAWWWWWWWWSssssssssss


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I had to google that


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always just called those electric saws


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] illumnious#7938
I called it shit


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it specifically talks about fairly shitty reciprocating drywall saws


[14-Jan-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
even the strongest blades are not that useful


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
That’s the most shittiest wall I’ve ever seen


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some grease might work if you need kids pushed through


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Strong upper body strength will also work. Those gaps are wide enough to get an arm through and climb the wall.


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are the things that terrify me, if they catch a nail or something and the blade snaps


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
wear glasses and a sweater


[14-Jan-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
like you should anyway when using a drywall saw


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
safety gear is important


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
PPE is important


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway the only thing a concrete saw can't cut through is dirt


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
so that would be my choice if I had to specifically use a saw


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
makes sense


[14-Jan-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
but given that the wall is metal


[14-Jan-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
an oxy torch with a cutting head would make faster work of it


[14-Jan-20 02:04 AM] illumnious#7938
@PwnyPony https://twitter.com/zach___thomas/status/1118208638856777729?s=21

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New #Olympic sport the #VanityWall Climb

#Trump #Wall #NoWall #BorderWall #SouthernBorder #Border #Mexico #Mexican #Latino #Latina #Hispanic #WhiteNationalism #Racist #Prejudice #GOP #Republican https://t.co/2IWni0nINA
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[14-Jan-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Walls work, that's why we built a shitty fence instead"


[14-Jan-20 02:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Also once you reach the top of that wall you can just fireman pole your way down safely on the other side.


[14-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly just cut through it


[14-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What're they gonna do, monitor the entire thing?


[14-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then what?


[14-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are they gonna cross over to mexico to apprehend people cutting it down?


[14-Jan-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly they;re going to drone strike important mexican generals ot prove the strength of america

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[14-Jan-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7373803/Illegal-immigrants-arrested-San-Diego-trying-climb-new-border-wall.html

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Illegal immigrants are arrested trying to climb new border wall
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said they caught the two men trying to illegally cross over into San Diego from Mexico.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/20/03/17466782-0-image-a-58_1566269844540.jpg


[14-Jan-20 02:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You could also spread the bars wide enough to fit people through . get some rope and a couple cars tied to the poles and drive in opposite directions.#


[14-Jan-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
"trying to"?


[14-Jan-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
man they already did it


[14-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd likely wreck the cars


[14-Jan-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no point with the cars


[14-Jan-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You are not gonna be keeping the cars.


[14-Jan-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
oxy torch is way easier


[14-Jan-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you have a tractor


[14-Jan-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
just cut out the beams


[14-Jan-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it would take like 15 seconds to cut a single beam


[14-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
An organization would just keep cutting bits of the wall and heading back every other day


[14-Jan-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cut a beam or two, head back home


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
shit if you can do one cut per 15 seconds


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I am thinking of bringing easy at hand stuff you could use what you own or steal from anywhere. you guys are thinking of bringing $100+ hardware usually only found on a construction site or hardware store.


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
and they're not going to notice most of the time


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
idk why not just cut an entire section every time you go out


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
last I checked a car is a lot heavier than gas canisters


[14-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them will be using $100 hardware


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
and the torch head and hoses etc. are not exactly in short supply


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a car is a lot mroe than $100 hardware


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The point isn't to cut and cross


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
no I know


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The point is to repeatedly keep cutting until the entire thing is too much a of a waste


[14-Jan-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
if you cut out an entire section of the wall every time you go out


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but never cross


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So you just take some tools every few days and get at it


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
that causes basically maximum damage


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
vs wasting a car


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a slow burn is more effective


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
plus if the border patrol guys get too close you can just become a suicide bomber by torching the acetylene tank


[14-Jan-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
💥


[14-Jan-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So you guys are talking about destroying the wall not get around it or through it with whatever is at hand.


[14-Jan-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[14-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie's last debate has to have him say "Mr. President tear down this wall"

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[14-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, if you destroy enough of it, patrolling it effectively becomes untenable


[14-Jan-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you just try to break through it acutely, they'll be on you in 15 minutes


[14-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you spend a few month wrecking the thing, they'll have spread themselves thin


[14-Jan-20 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And eventually there'll either be no wall or a new north american war as the US invades mexico


[14-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the end the whole thing will be exposed as a massive ineffective money pit


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too many americans would rather spend trillions making sure brown people can't mingle among them than billions trying to improve their conditions to the point they wouldn't even want to


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it enriched the contractors who had to erect it


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or, you know, just wanting to improve conditions because it's the proper thing to do


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess who will be enriched next year


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The contractors tearing it down


[14-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
IRAN


[14-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
💥

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[14-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except not because it will go to workers


[14-Jan-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
:glimmer:


[14-Jan-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
🛠️


[14-Jan-20 02:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/8ecqMwLjTqQ?t=11

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CNN
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Erin Burnett calls Trump's 2011 video about Obama and Iran 'unbeli...
President Donald Trump claimed in a 2011 video that President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran to boost his chances of reelection in 2012. #CNN #News
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[14-Jan-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/10/21059924/trump-asylum-seekers-show-up-court-hearing

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Trump says most asylum seekers don’t show up for their court hea...
This study contradicts Trump’s rationale for expanding immigration detention.
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[14-Jan-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr: Trump says 2% show up, 99% do


[14-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] Can't Bleed the Reed


[14-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51090918

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51090918
Star Wars actor quits Facebook over advert policy
Mark Hamill accuses the social network of putting profits before truthfulness.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/FD51/production/_110494846_starwars.jpg


[14-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`"In the absence of regulation, Facebook and other companies are left to design their own policies," wrote Facebook's director of product management, Rob Leathern.

"We have based ours on the principle that people should be able to hear from those who wish to lead them, warts and all, and that what they say should be scrutinised and debated in public."`


[14-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bit of a fucking difference between "We won't censor politicians" and "We'll let politicians pay us to spread targeted lies to people we identify as most willing to believe and actively spread them further" but ok


[14-Jan-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/hNZM7B5.png

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A brief history of corporate whining
https://i.imgur.com/hNZM7B5.png


[14-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that any Democrat will support the PRO Act and that alone is worth voting for anyone who gets the nom.


[14-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Midknight#9798
PRO Act?


[14-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/labor/464223-the-pro-act-good-for-workers-and-good-for-business

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The PRO Act: Good for workers and good for business
For decades, working families could depend on labor unions to represent their collective interests -- ensuring a living wage, better benefits and a voice in their workplace.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/constructionworkers_010818getty.jpg


[14-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
```These are the things that terrify me, if they catch a nail or something and the blade snaps```


[14-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
that's why typically a circular saw has a metal deflector covering like half the blade. Specifically designed to, well, deflect bits away from your hands or face.


[14-Jan-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
of course, 'smart' people remove those to stick bigger blades on, which leads to all sorts of interesting photos.


[14-Jan-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8276d7dc28f15fc46d1b6c546dd66382

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Idea to dismiss articles of impeachment cools in Senate
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans signaled they would reject the idea of simply voting to dismiss the articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump as the House prepares to send the...
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[14-Jan-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/15c55be2dc326f3337ae41beda9953ba

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Black mayor of racially diverse Iowa city backs Buttigieg
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Quentin Hart, the black mayor of Iowa's most racially diverse city, is backing Pete Buttigieg for president, giving the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor a rare boost from...
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[14-Jan-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/861d1d93ad01421fa22d6a6aa7f7c17f

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Trump support for Iran protesters could fuel anti-US forces
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's embrace of anti-government protesters in Iran is another departure from his predecessors, who feared such overt support could backfire and inadvertently...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/824f51c5573545c191370d75fec8c945/3000.jpeg


[14-Jan-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.li/zUABK

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Suddenly Trump has lost enthusiasm for his trial - The Washington Post
archived 14 Jan 2020 01:08:56 UTC
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[14-Jan-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww, poor baby is mad that the articles arent just being thrown in the shredder immediately


[14-Jan-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He always talks a big game about wanting this or that person to testify or giving this or that document


[14-Jan-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But there's always some tiny snag, that, shucks, just prevents it


[14-Jan-20 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Huge shame, everything would be cleared up, but X


[14-Jan-20 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And when X isn't an issue, the whole thing is a witchhunt, a sham, unfair, presidential harassement


[14-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/trump-iran.html
<https://archive.md/lSHjC>

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By Annie Karni
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/trump-iran.html
A Narrative Collapses as Trump Tweets: ‘It Doesn’t Really Matt...
President Trump cited Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani’s “horrible past” as possibly reason enough for the drone strike that killed him.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/13/us/politics/13dc-trump/13dc-trump-facebookJumbo.jpg


[14-Jan-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
> In the 10 days since it carried out the drone strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, the Trump administration has been struggling to draft an after-the-fact narrative to justify it. On Monday, President Trump put an end to that hash of explanations. “It doesn’t really matter,” he tweeted, “because of his horrible past.”


[14-Jan-20 01:03 PM] Crow#5457
> Mr. Khanna and other congressional Democrats, who have complained about having been left in the dark both before and after the drone strike, interpreted Mr. Trump’s tweet as proof that he must seek authorization from Congress for any future strikes.


[14-Jan-20 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah he's finally at the "If i did, you deserved it" part of the 8 stages of trump


[14-Jan-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html

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Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that ...
The stakes were high when Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren met at Warren's apartment in Washington, DC, one evening in December 2018. The longtime friends knew that they could soon be running against each other for president.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200113102920-sanders-warren-file-2019-super-tease.jpg


[14-Jan-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
> "It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn't win," Sanders said. "It's sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016."


[14-Jan-20 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
apparently 3/4 sources (2 not in the room, 1 in the room) claim bernie said a "woman couldn't win"


[14-Jan-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesn't sound like something bernie would say...


[14-Jan-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
I know, I get the feeling they're just misconstruing the point he was trying to make


[14-Jan-20 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
of course, they could also be maliciously trying to harm him to boost warren too


[14-Jan-20 01:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most likely the latter


[14-Jan-20 01:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Statement doesn't make any sense to start with if it was just that, and neither does that Warren wouldn't have been on the attack against him since then


[14-Jan-20 01:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1216931979893137408

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Nate Silver (@NateSilver538)
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1216931979893137408
Wait, there are people who *don't* think the Warren campaign leaked the story?
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[14-Jan-20 01:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(I mean, who else would... it's sort of implied by the story's existence)


[14-Jan-20 01:18 PM] byte[]#2610
> Fake story that conveniently went viral today before tomorrow’s debates that asserts Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren that women can’t win the presidency. 100% a plant from Warren’s campaign


[14-Jan-20 01:27 PM] Crow#5457
> It's pretty rudimentary political analysis to see that this story would (will) hurt both the Warren and Sanders campaigns.  Sanders for the obvious reasons, Warren because of the Sanders backlash, b/c nobody likes to vote for a victim, and b/c it introduces the "can a woman win?" question back into the mainstream debate.  None of those things helps her.  Honestly, someone in the Biden camp leaking this would make the most sense.  Obviously I'm not sure if that did happen, but I don't see why the Warren camp would think this would help.


[14-Jan-20 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
short-term gains for long-term losses


[14-Jan-20 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
seems pretty par the course for capitalism


[14-Jan-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jan-20 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
uh, that's a 3 way tie


[14-Jan-20 01:32 PM] Crow#5457
actually no, was thinking 3% error, not 3.7% error


[14-Jan-20 01:32 PM] Crow#5457
but yeah, biden's getting pretty low there


[14-Jan-20 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
you know one thing they should do if trump refuses to debate the democratic nominee?


[14-Jan-20 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Debate against a giant hotdog with a toupee?


[14-Jan-20 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
they should hold the debate anyway, but have trump soundbites coming from a stand-in for trump


[14-Jan-20 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Its silence would be a better debate opponent


[14-Jan-20 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hah


[14-Jan-20 01:35 PM] Crow#5457
I was thinking a guinea pig could be used as well


[14-Jan-20 01:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/b8/5c/2bb85c0fd1e6292f866f2744ae634943.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 01:35 PM] Crow#5457
debating trump's sentient hair


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully Bloomberg sticks with dumping his ad money into the campaign regardless of who gets the nomination


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(and Steyr too)


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
he wouldn't support bernie


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
bernie would be an existential crisis for the wealthy if he was nominated


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
well in their minds


[14-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, doesn't need to support him just run attack ads against Trump


[14-Jan-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/hNZM7B5.png

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A brief history of corporate whining
https://i.imgur.com/hNZM7B5.png


[14-Jan-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
because, y'know, this


[14-Jan-20 01:37 PM] byte[]#2610
bloomberg actually did say a couple days ago he would back a sanders nomination


[14-Jan-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people say a lot of things, but will he put his money where his mouth is in the actual event of a bernie nomination?


[14-Jan-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/trumphairindexphoto-copy.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
could also have a cage with this caterpillar


[14-Jan-20 01:43 PM] Crow#5457
ohhh, that picture of trump with a crown and sitting in a throne could be used as a stand-in for trump as well


[14-Jan-20 01:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[14-Jan-20 01:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/tZEpYoi.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 01:49 PM] Crow#5457
I think it would actually work better if there were no soundbites if that image were used


[14-Jan-20 01:49 PM] Crow#5457
it would come across as the "silent king who doesn't have to respond to the lowly peasants" look


[14-Jan-20 01:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Make sure to give pause to answer, though


[14-Jan-20 01:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With proper camera work; slow zooms into the eyes, shots of the other guy staring at him, shots of the moderator looking at him and nodding thoughtfully or reacting with mild surprise or confusion


[14-Jan-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933hKyKNPFQ

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ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933hKyKNPFQ
Clint Eastwood RNC Speech (COMPLETE): Actor Assails Obama Through ...
RNC 2012: Mystery speaker Eastwood stages a mock conversation with President Obama. For more: http://abcn.ws/OB07tV
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/933hKyKNPFQ/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Jan-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
apparently clint eastwood did something similar with obama


[14-Jan-20 01:59 PM] Crow#5457
but that clint eastwood thing was a comedian act, not an official debate


[14-Jan-20 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
obama could take a joke


[14-Jan-20 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
trump can't


[14-Jan-20 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that too


[14-Jan-20 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
he skipped the WH correspondents' dinner (which conventionally has roasted the president) for the past 2 years


[14-Jan-20 02:01 PM] byte[]#2610
even when they made concessions to him and offered to skip the roast


[14-Jan-20 02:01 PM] byte[]#2610
it was still too much for his fragile ego to handle


[14-Jan-20 02:01 PM] Crow#5457
wouldn't it be 3 years?


[14-Jan-20 02:01 PM] Crow#5457
idk if he was there in 2017


[14-Jan-20 02:02 PM] byte[]#2610
ah yeah maybe my mind is slipping


[14-Jan-20 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, he wasn't there in 2017 either


[14-Jan-20 02:03 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, while trump would be up in arms on twitter about a joke version (like the clint eastwood thing), he would be raging to all hell if this happened at an official debate


[14-Jan-20 02:03 PM] Crow#5457
it might even get him to accept the next invitation


[14-Jan-20 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/384-beltway-garage-warren-strikes-back-11419

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Chapo Trap House
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384 - Beltway Garage: Warren Strikes Back  (1/14/19)
Matt and Virgil once again venture under the hood of politics, this time joined by TV’s Will Menaker. The gang talks Matt and Virgil’s surreal encounter with Beltway insiders, possible Iowa caucus out
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[14-Jan-20 03:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Clear Biden campaign thing.


[14-Jan-20 03:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Think about who actually benefits from this "leak"


[14-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
2:01 PM]byte[]:even when they made concessions to him and offered to skip the roast
[2:01 PM]byte[]:it was still too much for his fragile ego to handle


[14-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OK but remember


[14-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When he got roasted as a guest at one of those 6 years ago


[14-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He reacted by running for president


[14-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So... I'm OK with him skipping out if it saves us from WW3


[14-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
he said he wanted to run for president back in like the 80's


[14-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
and he did actually run once


[14-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
but didn't even make it to like 1% in the primary


[14-Jan-20 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_2000_presidential_campaign

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Donald Trump's presidential campaign of 2000 for the nomination of the Reform Party began when real estate magnate Donald Trump of New York announced the creation of a presidential exploratory committee on the October 7, 1999 edition of Larry King Live. Although Trump had nev...
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[14-Jan-20 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
he ran as a member of the "Reform Party"


[14-Jan-20 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-timeline/

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Here's a Timeline of Every Time Donald Trump Ran for President | T...
Though Donald Trump's presidential campaign has thus far been a series of unfortunate events, this isn't the real estate mogul's first time at the election...
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[14-Jan-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/478080-gop-leadership-there-arent-51-votes-to-dismiss-trump-articles-of-impeachment

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GOP leadership: There aren't 51 votes to dismiss Trump articles of...
Sen.
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[14-Jan-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
> Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) told reporters on Monday that the Senate Republican caucus doesn't have the votes to dismiss the articles of impeachment against President Trump, who endorsed an "outright dismissal" over the weekend.


[14-Jan-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-burisma-ukraine.html

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By Nicole Perlroth and Matthew Rosenberg
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-burisma-ukraine.html
Russians Hacked Ukrainian Gas Company at Center of Impeachment
The timing and scale of the attacks suggest the Russians may be looking for the same kind of damaging information on Joe Biden that President Trump wanted from Ukraine, security experts say.
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[14-Jan-20 04:52 PM] Crow#5457
> With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts.
> 
> The hacking attempts against Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company on whose board Hunter Biden served, began in early November, as talk of the Bidens, Ukraine and impeachment was dominating the news in the United States.
> 
> It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.


[14-Jan-20 04:52 PM] Crow#5457
the fact that they haven't actually found anything by now is telling


[14-Jan-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
every _fucking_ time someone argues against forgiving student loans https://i.redd.it/gwa4xxaqaoa41.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's nothing to find, the gas company job had nothing to do with joe...


[14-Jan-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
"I was raised with a 50% chance to be run over by a trolley and I turned out just fine, people just need to stop being so sensitive."


[14-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the arguement my father gave against medicare for all was "Blue cross worked for me in the obama era, and those more fortunate then you like their insurance plans."


[14-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a buttigeg supporter who doesnt want to rock the foundation at all


[14-Jan-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would probably support biden if biden wasnt old


[14-Jan-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i;d rather take a jack hammer and wrecking ball tot he foundation and rebuild


[14-Jan-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/z9vgifr45qa41.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 05:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/14/mustafa-kassem-us-citizen-dies-egypt-prison-after-hunger-strike/4463726002/

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US citizen Mustafa Kassem dies in Egyptian prison after hunger strike
Mustafa Kassem, 54, an Egyptian-born auto parts dealer from Long Island, New York, died of heart failure after a hunger strike he began last year.
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[14-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
> A U.S. citizen who went on a hunger strike and who claimed he was wrongfully imprisoned in Egypt died after spending six years behind bars, the State Department said.
> 
> Mustafa Kassem, 54, an Egyptian-born auto parts dealer from Long Island, New York, died of heart failure after a hunger strike he began last year to protest his unjust incarceration, his lawyers said.
> 
> “His death in custody was needless, tragic and avoidable,” Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs David Schenker told reporters. “I will continue to raise our serious concerns about human rights and Americans detained in Egypt at every opportunity.”


[14-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
when it's a rapper in sweden, trump starts shit


[14-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
when it's a random dude in egypt, no one says anything


[14-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
the rapper in sweden only spent a month in jail anyway and had a suspended sentence due to time already served


[14-Jan-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rapper was also friends with kanye, who is friends with trump. It was entirely about preferential favors


[14-Jan-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mustafa meanwhile was friends with no one trump considered important or favorable so he could rot for all trump cared


[14-Jan-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uks-pm-proposes-crowdfunding-to-allow-big-ben-to-bong-for-brexit-2020-1

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Boris Johnson wants to ring in Brexit with a 'Big Ben bong' that w...
Three British prime ministers and years of negotiating later, the United Kingdom is finally set to leave the European Union on January 31, 2020.
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[14-Jan-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Boris Johnson wants to ring in Brexit with a 'Big Ben bong' that would cost $648,450, and he wants UK citizens to start a crowdfunding campaign to pay for it
Three British prime ministers and years of negotiating later, the United Kingdom is finally set to leave the European Union on January 31, 2020

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[14-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-congress-hearing/u-s-house-committee-threatens-subpoena-if-pompeo-will-not-provide-iran-information-idUSKBN1ZD24K

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U.S. House committee threatens subpoena if Pompeo will not provide...
The chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee thre...
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[14-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-warren/white-house-contender-warren-sees-path-to-cancel-student-loan-debt-without-congress-idUSKBN1ZD1T3

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White House contender Warren sees path to cancel student loan debt...
Democrat Elizabeth Warren outlined on Tuesday how, if elected to the White House...
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[14-Jan-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/eo9j4c/comment/febhvrn

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Trump Campaign Adviser Pleads Guilty to Child Porn, Sex Trafficking
Posted in r/politics by u/nnnarbz • 55,763 points and 3,222 comments
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[14-Jan-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
4:52 PM]Crow:the fact that they haven't actually found anything by now is telling

More effective to wait until Biden is the candidate


[14-Jan-20 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/11/blame-it-on-the-weather/#respond

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Blame It on the Weather
Ask yourself who in their right mind and good conscience would want to cut off humanitarian aid and medical assistance to over one million people while simultaneously bombing them at will. Then ask…
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[14-Jan-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/09/sergey-abashin/

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Sergey Abashin: “Aliens” on Red Square
A screenshot of the Ekho Moskvy website, showing the results of an online survey conducted on January 3, 2020. When asked “Does the abundance of migrants on Red Square on New Year’s bot…
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[14-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
'Russian elections'.


[14-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
myths and legends of our time.


[14-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/iraq-in-talks-to-purchase-russian-missile-defense-system-amid-soleimani-fallout/

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Zachary Evans
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Iraq in Talks to Purchase Russian Missile Defense System amid Sole...
The Iraqi ambassador to Iran said on Monday that the country is in negotiations to purchase the Russian S-300 missile defense system.
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[14-Jan-20 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia banking off trump's fuck up? what a plot twist


[14-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
there's always free cheese for the second mouse.


[14-Jan-20 07:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's called geopolitics. One state gets alienated out of a region and another gets the opportunity to move in. Trump managed to actually play a head against himself, it's kind of amazing really. You don't really see fuck ups this amazing unless it's one state goading another into said fuck-up, like the Vietnam war. Even what'd be CIA moral failings haven't lead to failures this severe


[14-Jan-20 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/ekzqvk/i_want_my_protection_from_indecent_exposure_back/fdf98gn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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I want my protection from indecent exposure back.
Because in the end that is what they want. They *want* females to be afraid and not leave the house. Recently, as reluctant as I am, Ive been...
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[14-Jan-20 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
TERFs having terminal brainworms


[14-Jan-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
some people love to play victim.


[14-Jan-20 07:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/while-iranian-students-rip-down-posters-of-soleimani-syria-awards-him-a-posthumous-medal-of-honor

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While Iranian students rip down posters of Soleimani, Syria awards...
Syria awarded Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani its highest military honor on Monday while Iranian student protesters took to the streets to tear down posters set up in his memory. Soleimani was killed in a U.S. airstrike outside Iraq’s Baghdad International Airport on Jan. 2.
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[14-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/human-rights-watch-hong-kong-advocacy-group-director-kenneth-roth-claims-he-was-denied-entry-into-hong-kong-2020-01-012/

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Human Rights Watch director denied entry into Hong Kong, group claims
"I had hoped to spotlight Beijing's deepening assault on international efforts to uphold human rights. The refusal to let me enter Hong Kong vividly illustrates the problem," HRW's executive director said.
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[14-Jan-20 08:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/spacex-set-for-critical-test-of-launch-escape-system-on-saturday/

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Crew Dragon faces its last big test before human spaceflight on Sa...
One launch emergency. Four parachutes. Eight SuperDracos.
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[14-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/14/796024449/at-supreme-court-another-potential-loss-for-prosecutors-fighting-public-corrupti

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At Supreme Court, Another Potential Loss For Prosecutors Fighting ...
The "Bridgegate" scandal infuriated motorists and endangered public safety, but if the past is prologue, the high court could treat it as much ado about nothing.
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[14-Jan-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I find it likely they'll toss the fraud statutes


[14-Jan-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[14-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/14/795215639/border-wall-threatens-national-wildlife-refuge-thats-been-40-years-in-the-making

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Border Wall Threatens National Wildlife Refuge That's Been 40 Year...
Construction of the Trump administration's border wall has been slowed by difficulties acquiring private land, so the government is prioritizing construction inside federal nature sanctuaries.
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[14-Jan-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/14/795906732/despite-election-security-fears-iowa-caucuses-will-use-new-smartphone-app

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Despite Election Security Fears, Iowa Caucuses Will Use New Smartp...
The Iowa Democratic Party confirmed to Iowa Public Radio and NPR that it plans to use an Internet-based app to transmit results, but it declined to provide any more specifics or security details.
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[14-Jan-20 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
one would *hope* there's a paper trail for record-keeping and the app is just to get initial poll results faster after the polls close, buuut


[14-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It's all or nothing, as usual.


[14-Jan-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/pxmulzsuxra41.jpg

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[14-Jan-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump would tackle and foul Bernie and when the refs give him a tech he’d call them fake-news, quit the game, and declare himself the winner while storming off the court, leaving Bernie to make uncontested shots and wIn


[14-Jan-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've noticed that Bernie is adopting Trump's style with the media


[14-Jan-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His PR person was talking about how "billionaires on The View" are wrong


[14-Jan-20 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's not wrong there


[14-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not


[14-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And I like the firm style


[14-Jan-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He does it right, unlike people like Yang or Gabbard


[15-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence_attachment.pdf


[15-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“get [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated”


[15-Jan-20 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0pxbMHCOAk

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Sarah Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0pxbMHCOAk
Online Boundaries and Emotional Labour
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[15-Jan-20 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
New Sarah Z video


[15-Jan-20 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
"best basic white girl youtuber", as my pall dubed her


[15-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure it's good but these styles of videos are mildly unsettling to me for some reason


[15-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know the appeal is "it's like she's in the room with you talking" but I don't like it


[15-Jan-20 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
I don't feel it that way personally


[15-Jan-20 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
more like she's just recorded it without putting high production


[15-Jan-20 01:04 AM] ononim#8141
but then again


[15-Jan-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
she talked about how with phnoes we're now aviable 24/7 even then we got out


[15-Jan-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
and uhhhh


[15-Jan-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
can't relate


[15-Jan-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
if I am outside I don't check messages


[15-Jan-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
call me properly or I don't even notice it unless I have to wait somewhere with wi fi and get bored


[15-Jan-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even have a smart phone


[15-Jan-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i get it


[15-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck, these new documents


[15-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They wanted to straight up break Yovanovitch's legs or something


[15-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I saw a few of the whatsapp messages, will have to read through the lot tomorrow


[15-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was a *woman* messing wit their *business*, they would literally break her legs if they had the opportunity.


[15-Jan-20 01:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/organized-crime-type-stuff-republican-trump-foe-george-conway-on-shocking-new-lev-parnas-documents/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Organized-crime-type stuff’: Republican Trump foe George Conw...
Republican Washington lawyer George Conway blasted President Donald Trump for his involvement revealed by a series of documents released by Rudy Giuliani’s associate Lev Parnas. Tuesday, however, the House dropped documents handed over to the Intelligence Committee by Parna...
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[15-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, def. reads like they were planning a hit...


[15-Jan-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jan-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
(fake, in case it wasn't clear...)


[15-Jan-20 02:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
BoJo the clown rimming Donald. "The problem with the agreement from the American perspective is it's a flawed agreement, it expires, PLUS ***it was negotiated by president Obama*** 
https://youtu.be/f3qj51Vo88M?t=156

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OldQueenTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3qj51Vo88M&start=156
Boris Johnson on BBC Breakfast discussing a new Iran deal
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[15-Jan-20 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Lets replace it with the Trump deal" 🇺🇸 💩 🥣 🇬🇧


[15-Jan-20 02:06 AM] illumnious#7938
god https://www.twitch.tv/donaldtrump

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DonaldTrump - Twitch
LIVE: President Trump in Milwaukee, WI
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[15-Jan-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇺🇸 Enemy of the entire world. yay!


[15-Jan-20 02:12 AM] illumnious#7938
end my life


[15-Jan-20 02:12 AM] illumnious#7938
number one terrorist


[15-Jan-20 02:14 AM] illumnious#7938

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[15-Jan-20 02:15 AM] illumnious#7938
fake news headline


[15-Jan-20 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Pretty sure some of the shit he is saying violates Twitch Guidelines.


[15-Jan-20 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
son of a bitch out


[15-Jan-20 02:22 AM] illumnious#7938
Mexico still have to pay for the fucking fence


[15-Jan-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
that shit you called a wall


[15-Jan-20 02:28 AM] illumnious#7938
He loves his grandkids and golf


[15-Jan-20 02:28 AM] illumnious#7938
that dosen't make any sense


[15-Jan-20 02:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MakeItRayn_/status/1216473486987755521

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[15-Jan-20 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_parnas_excerpts_translated_slide_deck.pdf
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence_attachment.pdf


[15-Jan-20 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
OOF


[15-Jan-20 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no wonder Parnas acts like he's got ants in his pants all the time


[15-Jan-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
It's _bad_


[15-Jan-20 02:41 AM] illumnious#7938
Shawn Duffy climb that sucker


[15-Jan-20 02:41 AM] illumnious#7938
He's Pro Trump


[15-Jan-20 02:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A lot of these options are valid.
He has threatened violence against Iran talking again about how he has a list targets.

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[15-Jan-20 02:41 AM] illumnious#7938
lol


[15-Jan-20 02:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
His wall is a scam.


[15-Jan-20 02:47 AM] illumnious#7938
fence


[15-Jan-20 02:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That's part of why it is a scam. not even a real wall.


[15-Jan-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't forget, the fence mostly predates Trump in office, even


[15-Jan-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

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Secure Fence Act of 2006
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367), also labelled H.R. 6061, is an act of the United States Congress which authorized and partially funded the construction of 700 miles (1,125 km) of fencing along the Mexican border. The Act was signed into law on October 26, 200...
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[15-Jan-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
shittest fence


[15-Jan-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
don't worry


[15-Jan-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And we knew it was bad almost immediately


[15-Jan-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> A report in May 2008 by the Congressional Research Service found "strong indication" that illegal border-crossers had simply found new routes


[15-Jan-20 02:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
KAG Keep America Great :trixdisgust:


[15-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/specials/live-video-0

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Watch live: CNN/Des Moines Register Democratic debate in Iowa - CNN
CNN and The Des Moines Register host the last Democratic debate before the Iowa caucuses.
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[15-Jan-20 02:57 AM] illumnious#7938
perfect


[15-Jan-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
*Number one by far*


[15-Jan-20 02:59 AM] illumnious#7938
since when?


[15-Jan-20 03:03 AM] illumnious#7938
TOILETS AND SHOWERS


[15-Jan-20 03:03 AM] illumnious#7938
geez


[15-Jan-20 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
And the beautiful head of hair!


[15-Jan-20 03:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:spikegag:


[15-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden uses the Obama card, take a drink


[15-Jan-20 03:04 AM] illumnious#7938
no pressure behind the water


[15-Jan-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ugh, George W Bush's border fence


[15-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of W's worst legacies, @WingbeatPony


[15-Jan-20 03:10 AM] illumnious#7938
I love ice


[15-Jan-20 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
they're so good


[15-Jan-20 03:12 AM] illumnious#7938
work with ICE


[15-Jan-20 03:12 AM] illumnious#7938
get him out of our country


[15-Jan-20 03:15 AM] illumnious#7938
terrific _*wall*_


[15-Jan-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the isis card!


[15-Jan-20 03:18 AM] illumnious#7938
we all smart people


[15-Jan-20 03:19 AM] illumnious#7938
we're going to raise taxes


[15-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/meaganmday/status/1216793548567113728

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In my view a woman could be elected president of the United States.” — Bernie Sanders, 1988 https://t.co/WJd847DdmA
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[15-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders has the opposite of that "hilarious in hindsight" Trump tweet thing going on


[15-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any time he gets a critique you can find video of him sticking to his principles


[15-Jan-20 03:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Lol twitch music mute. :p


[15-Jan-20 03:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxjuVwFmVk

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[15-Jan-20 03:38 AM] illumnious#7938
> Lol twitch music mute. :p
@PwnyPony copyright


[15-Jan-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Debate's over, no surprises


[15-Jan-20 05:17 AM] illumnious#7938
wow


[15-Jan-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i missed most of it


[15-Jan-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at one point i misunderstood a commercial break exit and thought the debate was over


[15-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[15-Jan-20 05:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217303398636126210?s=20

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[15-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Someone agrees with me. I agree!"


[15-Jan-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[15-Jan-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ksat.com/news/defenders/2020/01/03/sapd-officer-who-gave-homeless-man-a-feces-sandwich-trying-to-win-back-job-for-a-second-time

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[15-Jan-20 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/13/795940176/iran-denies-that-its-forces-shot-at-anti-government-protesters

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[15-Jan-20 06:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/winners-and-losers-7th-democratic-primary-debate-iowa-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Here are the winners and losers of the 7th Democratic primary deba...
It was a big night for Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, who wasn't even on stage, also made a splash.
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[15-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
Iran doing Iran things, Trump's US doing Trump's US things


[15-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
and everything is as it was meant to be :3


[15-Jan-20 06:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/heytana/status/1217132202355544066

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Tana Goertz Text EMPOWER to 88022 🇺🇸 (@heytana)
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"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! 🦅✈️🇺🇸 no it’s a massive .@realDonaldTrump banner at the #DemocraticDebate #KAG
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[15-Jan-20 06:37 AM] illumnious#7938
no it's a jpeg file

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[15-Jan-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sir this is a wendy's


[15-Jan-20 06:58 AM] illumnious#7938
welcome to Wendy's, may I take your order?


[15-Jan-20 07:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Are you on the menu?


[15-Jan-20 08:08 AM] Mani#1404
Six piece spicy nugget with barbecue sauce


[15-Jan-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Lukewarm night"


[15-Jan-20 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn/trump-ex-adviser-flynn-seeks-to-withdraw-guilty-plea-idUSKBN1ZE04K

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Trump ex-adviser Flynn seeks to withdraw guilty plea
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[15-Jan-20 12:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Jan-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The blood of babies will make millionaires immortal!"


[15-Jan-20 12:23 PM] Opponent#3498
if only that would actually work :(


[15-Jan-20 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Not immortal oblivious but they gonna live longer than average person


[15-Jan-20 12:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if that tracks...


[15-Jan-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this sounds closer to a grift than a legitimate method.


[15-Jan-20 01:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everything for rich people is a grift


[15-Jan-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-i-don-t-believe-bernie-said-woman-can-t-n1115941

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Trump: 'I don't believe that Bernie said' a woman can't win in 2020
As Democrats debated in Iowa, the president cast doubt on Elizabeth Warren's claim at a campaign rally Tuesday night.
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[15-Jan-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
trump just endorsed sanders by complete accident


[15-Jan-20 02:50 PM] Opponent#3498
:faceclaw:


[15-Jan-20 02:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He was only doing it to slam warren.


[15-Jan-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
he was only doing it to _own the libs_


[15-Jan-20 03:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/01/15/russia-s-government-resigns-as-putin-offers-spot-on-security-council-to-medvedev

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Russia's government resigns as Putin offers spot on Security Counc...
Following Vladimir Putin's annual state-of-the-nation speech on Wednesday, where the president called for major constitutional reform, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has announced that Russia's entire ministerial cabinet, commonly referred to as “the government,” will for...
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[15-Jan-20 03:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://meduza.io/en/short/2020/01/15/putin-has-proposed-a-bunch-of-constitutional-amendments-here-s-what-he-wants-to-change

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A modest proposal Putin has suggested a bunch of Constitutional am...
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[15-Jan-20 03:21 PM] ononim#8141

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[15-Jan-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah... 'Russia's elections' xD


[15-Jan-20 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
The biggest thing honestly is change of constitution


[15-Jan-20 03:37 PM] ononim#8141
most likely you can say good bye to being able get away only with stress and legal fees if local authorities want to pin you down for something low-key with uber blatnant made up shit that contradicts the law actually


[15-Jan-20 03:37 PM] ononim#8141
no appeal to international law either


[15-Jan-20 03:38 PM] ononim#8141
Oh and will not be surprised if the first and funamentla paragraphs of it worded in the way what if you're trans or not a hetero, you technically don't have human rights, sorry


[15-Jan-20 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Moderator: "Sen. Sanders, you said a woman can't win an election."

Sanders: "I did not."

Moderator: "Sen. Warren, what do you think when Sen. Sanders told you that a woman can't win an election?"

wtf


[15-Jan-20 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the fuck is this question format even


[15-Jan-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jan-20 03:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jan-20 04:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if that's a real tweet


[15-Jan-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah byte


[15-Jan-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was a shit question and a shit weasel answer from Warren as a follow up


[15-Jan-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
CNN so clearly has it in the bag for Biden


[15-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
God what the fuck is it with people and straws


[15-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Unless you have a disability


[15-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
You do. not. need. a straw.


[15-Jan-20 05:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-worst-nightmare-impeachment-managers-praised-for-having-boss-energy/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday announced the impeachment managers who will prosecute the case against President Donald Trump in the upcoming Senate trial during a Capitol Hill press conference. House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) will be the lead impea...
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[15-Jan-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm so sick of being given straws and/or coerced into using them


[15-Jan-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
especially at fast chains


[15-Jan-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
no, don't put a lid on the damn cup


[15-Jan-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
just let me drink out of it


[15-Jan-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
this problem is only getting worse because paper straws taste disgusting and disintegrate quickly and more people are being pushed into using those


[15-Jan-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcdonalds: the place where even the drinks taste like cardboard now


[15-Jan-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_he doesn't like shooting near-freezing carbonated sugar water straight to the back of his throat_


[15-Jan-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/01/10/it-s-not-a-good-time-to-be-a-nazi-in-russia-today-but-fascists-are-another-story

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“It’s definitely not a good time to be a Nazi,” says a character named Yorki near the end of Taika Waititi’s recent satirical film JoJo Rabbit. But the same can’t be said for fascists in Russia, where the state media suddenly seems committed to resuscitating Italia...
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[15-Jan-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[15-Jan-20 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
well, history seems to clarify things right now :D


[15-Jan-20 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
xenophobia, unity of church and state, optimistic narrative and patriotism... And so on. Yeah, it checks out.


[15-Jan-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
```Petrovsky says Nazis were presented as fascists to the Soviet people only because it was neater than calling them “Nationalist Socialists”```


[15-Jan-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
probably true.


[15-Jan-20 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
```he praises Mussolini as a visionary who prioritized Italy’s industrialization and infrastructure. In the end, yes, he was led astray by the Nazis and Italy became a “failed copy of Germany,” but Mussolini started out more admirably, Petrovsky says in his column```


[15-Jan-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
also seems to be true. Italy got fucked by Germany's need to go to war with Russia, but otherwise things seemed to be going reasonably well. I guess it helped that they started off from a point where WW1 generals and leaders believed heavy casualties were therapeutic for troop morale and discipline etc.


[15-Jan-20 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/15/21066935/trump-milwaukee-rally-media-sanitizing-npr

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In trying to be above taking sides, the mainstream media does Trump a favor by making order out of his chaos.
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[15-Jan-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Senate-committee-strikes-assault-weapons-bill-advances-other-proposed-gun-laws-566941011.html

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Va. Senate committee strikes 'assault weapons' bill, advances othe...
One of the most controversial gun control bills proposed in the Virginia General Assembly has been killed, while others passed out of committee on Monday morning.
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[15-Jan-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```According to media outlets present at the meeting, committee Democrats unanimously voted to dismiss the bill. Republicans all abstained from voting after arguing that it was too late to dismiss the bill since it had already been docketed.```


[15-Jan-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[15-Jan-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
:squintyjack:


[15-Jan-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/pompeo-barr-soleimani-strike-iran-rationale/index.html

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Barr and Pompeo shift justification for Iran strike from 'imminent...
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Attorney General William Barr said Monday that killing Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani was part of a larger strategy of deterrence, a shift from the Trump administration's previous rationale that the strike was carried out to prevent an "i...
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[15-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic


[15-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make up a crazy excuse at the beginning to say there was an emergency.


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Later, after the dust settles, reveal that the critics were right all along and that there was no emergency.


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism 101


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has the dust settled yet?


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like the dust has not at all settled yet


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just enuff, yes.


[15-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has likely chekked whether he'd be removed in the Senate imminently.


[15-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And a round up of senators was done and they said no.


[15-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The dust isn't like, what the common people think.


[15-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just those in power.


[15-Jan-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/weareoversight/status/1217495167328038913

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American Oversight (@weareoversight)
https://twitter.com/weareoversight/status/1217495167328038913
We lined up the newly released Parnas messages with the records we obtained from the State Department through FOIA litigation, as well as other records and reports. 

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[15-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
doesn't that imminent threat thing mean that they straight-out admitted to conducting an illegal strike


[15-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not illegal if US does it


[15-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I think the world has come to the point of international law being obsolete. Or at least obsolescent, regarding it's stated use.


[15-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
the large states are so inter-connected they are never inclined to actually enforce anything ever. It's either not their concern, or not worth the hassle.


[15-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and so the law becomes the weapon against the weak, just like common law.


[15-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess it's not entirely useless as it does keep the smaller states in check (again, like common law preventing a free-for-all in the streets)


[15-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but talking about it in context of US, or Russia, or China, or India, or Saudi etc isn't really useful.


[15-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they admitted to it, butthe senate won't step in to punish them for it


[15-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The house can take action but the senate can cock block any action they take, i imagine


[15-Jan-20 10:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's handy to have a turtle in your pocket isn't it


[15-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V56dVFBCQcc

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Shadiversity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V56dVFBCQcc
Can WOMEN defeat MEN in SWORDFIGHTS? Reply to Andrew Klavan
A detailed look at the reality of female sword fighters, can they beat men? and why women didn't fight on the historical battlefield. This video is a reply to Andrew Klavan of the Daily Wire.

Blood and Iron video on strength in sword fighting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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[15-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, shad's doing a video on a claim that women can never beat men in a sword fight from a dude from the daily wire


[15-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
the dude originally claimed that a man beats a woman in a sword fight 100% of the time, but then clarified that there are "exceptions" while also doubling down on the original statement


[15-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
swords aren't that heavy, and then it comes down to skill.  Kind of open and shut thing.


[15-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
yes, people seem to have trouble understanding the distinction between armed combat and unarmed combat


[15-Jan-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are also many types of swords in many different weight classes


[15-Jan-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyone can master them, swords dont give a fuck about your gender


[15-Jan-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless they're magical swords, then they might give a fuck about your gender...


[15-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Wasn’t that queen character quite clearly established as somebody who was known for her battlefield participation?
> 
> She came back to that dinner party straight from hunting elves, she wasn’t just some dainty royal woman who picked up a sword.


[15-Jan-20 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://news.yahoo.com/cnnistrash-trending-dem-debate-bias-questions-bernie-sanders-091307094.html

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#CNNisTrash trending for perceived bias against Bernie Sanders at ...
CNN Democratic debate viewers, including Stephen Colbert, couldn't help but notice one of the moderators seemed to be against Bernie Sanders.
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[15-Jan-20 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
CNN has been out for bernie's blood since he announced he was running


[15-Jan-20 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
fox fucking news has been fairer to bernie (very fair by any standard) than CNN


[15-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JRobbo/status/1217443319355080704

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This Justin (@JRobbo)
https://twitter.com/JRobbo/status/1217443319355080704
@atrupar 'Bothsidersim' is too deeply ingrained in our media model. In an effort to be fair, reporters constantly ignore the extreme, such as Trump calling all Democrats traitors to the US. That's pretty unhinged right there, but it was almost entirely unreported or buried...
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[15-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
> 'Bothsidersim' is too deeply ingrained in our media model. In an effort to be fair, reporters constantly ignore the extreme, such as Trump calling all Democrats traitors to the US. That's pretty unhinged right there, but it was almost entirely unreported or buried deep.


[15-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
I assume he meant "Bothsiderism"


[15-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The annoying thing is, media almost always gets this wrong


[15-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women usually CAN'T draw longbows


[15-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Media thinks bows hav like no tension to fire arrows thru people yet swords are just sharp 20 pound clubs


[15-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It takes ridiculous strength to be a late medieval archer


[15-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
it takes like none to swing an arming sword.


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
you need more strength to draw a bow than to wield a sword


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stupid debate. Just use a gun.


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
medieval setting


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
But its, my world of gunpowder all over the place and magic lasers can't fashion barrels.


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
now what women could likely use would be a crossbow


[15-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless we use them solely for a laser superweapon on a 120-foot mech


[15-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Made entirely of several hundred thousand times the real world's supply of platinum.


[15-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://deadline.com/2020/01/netflix-accused-funnelling-international-profits-into-tax-havens-1202831130/

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https://deadline.com/2020/01/netflix-accused-funnelling-international-profits-into-tax-havens-1202831130/
Netflix Accused Of Funnelling $430M Of International Profits Into ...
Netflix has been accused of funneling as much as $430M of its international profits into tax havens, while at the same time receiving more than $1M in tax relief in the UK. A report by British thin…
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[15-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, guns aren't allowed on kids' shows, @Itsthinking


[15-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause they remind them of all the school shootings nobody wants to actually stop.


[15-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so the centrist moral guardians say "well just ban the guns from the MEDIA that's been CORRUPTING OUR YOUTH"


[15-Jan-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151927934758813696/667132471984521246/2lw5afakc0b41.png

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[15-Jan-20 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
russian 'government' existed mostly for show anyway.


[15-Jan-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
like Ononim said, there are some details of this whole thing that are important, but really gotta understand the context about them.


[15-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
it's still power consolidation, basically officially gutting the legislative branch and moving it over to the executive while invalidating what little power it seemed the russian courts still had


[15-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like it's intended to make it harder for outside interests like "fairness" to work their way in


[15-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Executive pretty much will be a monarchy.


[15-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
A Russians-only monarchy.


[15-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. That's the goal.


[15-Jan-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
good guys UAW

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[15-Jan-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, this isn't all that uncommon in colleges.


[15-Jan-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good professors are hard to come by and undergrads are plentiful


[15-Jan-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The especially sycophantic ones will do it for free


[15-Jan-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
even tho professors like, are normally paid out the ass and more limited than students in number of credits because teaching is incredibly time-consuming.


[15-Jan-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
colleges also like to skimp on the teaching equipment and will reject requests for new supplies


[15-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[15-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the money is funneled into newer, bigger facilities that aren't necessary


[15-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because facilities are the primary way colleges are ranked.


[15-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/us/politics/iran-war.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/us/politics/iran-war.html
Senate Has Votes to Pass Limits on Trump’s Iran War Power, Likel...
The declaration by Senator Tim Kaine signals a growing dissatisfaction among Republicans with President Trump’s Iran strategy.
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[15-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
> A measure that would force President Trump to win congressional authorization before taking further military action against Iran now has enough Republican support to pass the Senate, a key Democratic senator said Tuesday.


[15-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
he's gonna have to outright state with a veto that he doesn't care that congress has war powers according to the constitution


[15-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That there is grounds for impeachment if I've ever heard such.


[15-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
it seems like everything that's gonna come out of trump this year is gonna be an impeachable offense in and of itself


[15-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reason the 2 articles are broad.


[15-Jan-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Colleges need to pad their expenses to qualify as nonprofits, but don't want to pay their employees because then they might get too _uppity_


[15-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
probably to try and bury the original reason why he was impeached


[15-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is there will be a mountain to bury Republicans under.


[15-Jan-20 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
except they're trying to play the two articles off as flimsy and insubstantial


[15-Jan-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
I am about to head into my gender studies course so I'll see you after


[15-Jan-20 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
wait for real


[15-Jan-20 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
that isn't code for anatomy or something, right


[15-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
same question xD


[15-Jan-20 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is not


[15-Jan-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
that would be sex studies


[15-Jan-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but as you know, we live in a society


[15-Jan-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Republicans will totally play it off as flimsy and insubstantial, however thats going to get them in a lot of shit later down the line, especially in future cases against them


[15-Jan-20 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
is anything even worth learning taught in gender studies? from what I've heard it seems to just be random stuff that boils down to a roundabout way of teaching critical thinking


[15-Jan-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Mine is like a political discourse class


[15-Jan-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
So I do enjoy it considerably


[15-Jan-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the college


[15-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-avenatti-arrested-by-feds-at-california-state-bar-hearing

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Michael Avenatti Arrested by Feds at California State Bar Hearing
Stormy Daniels’ ex-lawyer was taken into custody by federal agents during a disciplinary hearing at California’s State Bar Court.
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[15-Jan-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also interpersonnel relationships sucks as an online course, it;s entirely meant to be taken in person


[15-Jan-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
> The arrest occurred outside the disciplinary hearing in which the State Bar of California has accused the hard-charging, tough-talking attorney of using a doctored document to scam a client out of nearly $840,000, funneling money from a lawsuit settlement fund to his own personal use.


[15-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
isn't this the dude who tried to blackmail nike into giving him like $200 million or something


[15-Jan-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
He's a grifter


[16-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/sports/michael-avenatti-extortion-nike.html

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By Marc Tracy, Kevin Draper and Rebecca R. Ruiz
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/sports/michael-avenatti-extortion-nike.html
Michael Avenatti Is Accused in Nike Extortion Attempt
Federal prosecutors have accused Michael Avenatti and a client, a club team basketball coach, of attempting to extort millions of dollars from Nike.
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[16-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
I was off by an order of magnitude, but yeah


[16-Jan-20 12:01 AM] Crow#5457
he tried to extort $22.5 million from nike


[16-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/nsa-found-a-dangerous-microsoft-software-flaw-and-alerted-the-firm--rather-than-weaponize-it/2020/01/14/f024c926-3679-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html


[16-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Crow#5457
> The National Security Agency recently discovered a major flaw in Microsoft’s Windows operating system — one that could expose computer users to significant breaches, surveillance or disruption — and alerted the firm about the problem rather than turning it into a hacking weapon, officials announced Tuesday.
> 
> The public disclosure represents a major shift in the NSA’s approach, choosing to put computer security ahead of building up its arsenal of hacking tools that allow the agency to spy on adversaries’ networks.
> 
> “This is . . . a change in approach . . . by NSA of working to share, working to lean forward and then working to really share the data as part of building trust,” said Anne Neuberger, director of the NSA’s Cybersecurity Directorate, which was launched in October. “As soon as we learned about [the flaw], we turned it over to Microsoft.”


[16-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the NSA could weaponize it, they probably realized outside organizations probably might be as well


[16-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look, it;s russia! everybody wave to russia!


[16-Jan-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iran also recently threatened cyber warfare as well


[16-Jan-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-leaders/schiff-to-lead-prosecution-of-trump-in-senate-impeachment-pelosi-idUSKBN1ZE20A

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Schiff to lead prosecution of Trump in Senate impeachment: Pelosi
U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff will l...
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[16-Jan-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
> U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff will lead a team of seven Democratic lawmakers who will prosecute the impeachment case against President Donald Trump in the Senate, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Wednesday.


[16-Jan-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/478519-warren-to-sanders-i-think-you-called-me-a-liar-on-national-tv

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Warren to Sanders: 'I think you called me a liar on national TV'
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) accused Sen.
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[16-Jan-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Steyer being a third wheel.


[16-Jan-20 03:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/JbE0El17H00

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE0El17H00
A Week of Royal Headlines
You can't abdicate and eat it!
For tickets to see Jonathan Pie FAKE NEWS: 2020 go to Jhttps://www.jonathanpie.com
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[16-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/478518-missouri-bill-proposes-parental-library-review-boards-that-could-land

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Missouri bill proposes 'parental library review boards' that could...
A new bill proposed in Missouri aims to prevent inappropriate sexual content from getting into the hands of kids, but crit
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[16-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
wew


[16-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The bill would ban libraries that receive state funding from allowing minors access to “age-inappropriate sexual material.” To identify what that content is, the bill would include the creation of "parental library review boards" made up of five locally elected community members. The boards would then review what content it considers appropriate.

Under the bill, librarians who "willfully" violate the rule could be fined $500 or face up to a year in jail"


[16-Jan-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck those people


[16-Jan-20 03:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Lock up the bibles.


[16-Jan-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a slippery slope attempt to defund libraries without saying it outloud


[16-Jan-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:trixdisgust:


[16-Jan-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also an outloud broad daylight attempt to book burn without using actual fire


[16-Jan-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://hbr.org/2020/01/advertising-makes-us-unhappy

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Advertising Makes Us Unhappy
The more a country spends on ads, the less satisfied its citizens are.
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[16-Jan-20 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mercurynews.com/woman-charged-after-allegedly-throwing-blood-at-senators

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https://www.mercurynews.com/woman-charged-after-allegedly-throwing-blood-at-senators
Bay Area woman protesting mandatory vaccinations charged after all...
San Francisco Bay Area woman who opposes mandatory childhood vaccinations has been charged with two felonies over allegedly flinging a cup of menstrual blood at state senators last year.
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[16-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Figures the anti-vaxx group would be the ones to make their protest-via-fluid-assault horrifically unsanitary.


[16-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't vaccinate your kids.


[16-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let doctors vaccinate them.


[16-Jan-20 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
Hmmm Trump Hotel eh?


[16-Jan-20 04:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1217636728321736704?s=21

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It was like a breeding ground at the Trump hotel.” - Parnas explaining how guys like him would rub elbows with GOP congressmen and people like Robert Hyde.
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[16-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2020/01/christian-school-expels-girl-pictured-with-a-cake-of-many-colours/

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Barry Duke
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2020/01/christian-school-expels-girl-pictured-with-a-cake-of-many-colours/
Christian school expels girl pictured with a cake of many colours
AFTER a picture was posted on social media showing Kayla Kenney celebrating her 15th birthday with a 'rainbow' cake, faith-based Whitefield Academy in Louisville, Kentucky, decided that that the photo demonstrated 'a posture of morality and cultural acceptance contrary to th...
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[16-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religious schools should be illegal.


[16-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I went to religious school


[16-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We studied other religions and philosophy and I and others were vocally against "christianity"


[16-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't affect my grades or treatment


[16-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not religious schools, it's having ignorant dicksmears in positions of power

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[16-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but that's very common in the American schoolsystem, and when the particular ones are of the religious variety, it leads to this shit.


[16-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones without a religious mandate tend to go after things like a boy with a purse or someone with a t-shirt of the peace sign saying it's a gang symbol.


[16-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religious ones however go well out of their way to target specifically gay people etc.


[16-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't Kentucky the place that has a Bible "museum" that has an ark replica and shines rainbows on it to "reclaim" it from LGBT people


[16-Jan-20 06:41 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-isnt-just-lying-about-the-suleimani-threat-hes-covering-up-the-fact-that-the-strike-was-illegal-law-professor/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[16-Jan-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No shit Sherlock


[16-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Opponent#3498
```Isn't Kentucky the place that has a Bible "museum" that has an ark replica and shines rainbows on it to "reclaim" it from LGBT people```


[16-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Opponent#3498
...should that not infuse it with gay instead?


[16-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Midknight#9798
isn't that ark rotting to pieces in Kentucky weather?


[16-Jan-20 07:27 AM] Opponent#3498
well if it specifically 'shines rainbows' I imagine it's a greenhouse-like setup, so probably not


[16-Jan-20 08:15 AM] Treascair#7785
I mean, Ken Ham's being actively sued by the state, last I heard, because he got the money under false pretenses and hasn't held to his end of the legal contract.


[16-Jan-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/939b3y/virginia-declares-state-of-emergency-after-armed-militias-threaten-to-storm-the-capitol

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The governor said law enforcement had intercepted “extremist rhetoric” similar to the lead-up to Charlottesville days before pro-gun activists are holding a rally.
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[16-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Opponent#3498
a coin toss of another case of false pretenses to get what they want regardless of the ruling.


[16-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Opponent#3498
also, 'credible intelligence', i.e. we're tapping everyone, court orders or not.


[16-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
they've literally been saying on public social media that they'll start a civil war if the law was passed


[16-Jan-20 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't need to wire tap to discover this


[16-Jan-20 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
> “No weapons will be allowed on Capitol grounds,” said Northam, a Democrat. “Everything from sticks and bats to chains and projectiles…. The list also includes firearms. It makes no sense to ban every other weapon but allow firearms when intelligence shows that armed militia groups plan to storm the Capitol.”


[16-Jan-20 09:34 AM] Opponent#3498
everyone always threatens civil war on social media. That's been going on for years now.


[16-Jan-20 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
no, they don't


[16-Jan-20 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
threatening civil war has come up like twice in the past 4 years, and both times were conservative groups


[16-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
liberals couldn't threaten anything violent and be taken seriously anyway, so...


[16-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, forget taken seriously.


[16-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
one was something about a civil war-like fracture that some far right conspiracy theorist came up with that trump retweeted, and the other was the threat of civil war in virginia


[16-Jan-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
not being immediately laughed off whatever platform they did it on


[16-Jan-20 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that both were within the past year


[16-Jan-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
they feel the pendulum will swing HARD against them soon as the moron in charge is gone.


[16-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Crow#5457
so in the past 4 years, there's been 2 threats of civil war, one indirectly supported by the president, and both from far right groups, and both happened in the past 6 months


[16-Jan-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Jan-20 03:23 PM] jlun2#8758
legit question: will America ever spawn some kind of Christain-right ISIS type of group?


[16-Jan-20 03:24 PM] jlun2#8758
or are they mostly social media shitposts and will likely never actually do anything ?


[16-Jan-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
http://archive.vn/Z1uyr


[16-Jan-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Seth is a buffoon


[16-Jan-20 03:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 Yall Qaeda


[16-Jan-20 03:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Westboro Blastist Church. 💥 ✝️


[16-Jan-20 04:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao-says-trump-admin-broke-law-ukraine

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GAO says Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid
The Government Accountability Office issued a legal opinion on Thursday saying that President Trump's administration broke the law by withholding defense aid to Ukraine -- the issue at the heart of the president's impeachment trial.
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[16-Jan-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Japan's First Lady, that's beautiful.


[16-Jan-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/parnas-ill-release-a-photo-each-time-trump-denies-knowing-me

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Parnas: I’ll Release a Photo Each Time Trump Denies Knowing Me
“Every time he says that I’ll show him another picture,” said the Giuliani associate at the center of the impeachment inquiry.
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[16-Jan-20 06:06 PM] jlun2#8758
too bad trump would probably yell fake news and say they're all deepfakes


[16-Jan-20 06:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since the defeat of Corbyn in the last election, the UK Labour party has gone to the polls to elect a leader. While a majority of Labour voters are undecided as to who should be the leader, one Ms. "Four day work week; three day bender" Long-Bailey is at the lead. https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/109116/labour-leadership-race-wide-open-poll-puts

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Labour leadership race wide open as poll puts Rebecca Long-Bailey ...
Rebecca Long-Bailey is ahead of Sir Keir Starmer in the race to become the next Labour leader, a new poll has shown.
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[16-Jan-20 06:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
From what I understand: the lead-up contender Starmer is the left-wing of the right-wing of the Labour party. While he may not roll back any of the existing Labour programs and missions he may stop the drive for further democratization within the Labour party itself. Where as Long-Bailey is a continuation of the Corbyn line and continues the party drive towards the left and perhaps towards further internal democratization of the party.


[16-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
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[16-Jan-20 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://leviathan-supersystem.tumblr.com/post/190291836894/between-the-racefaking-and-making-baseless

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between the racefaking and making baseless callouts, elizabeth warren truly is the tumblr candidate
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[16-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-investigates-threats-against-marie-yovanovitch-2020-1

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Ukraine launches criminal investigation into alleged surveillance ...
Yovanovitch was abruptly ousted from her post last year following what she and others characterized as a smear campaign against her.
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[16-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
so, trump finally got ukraine to launch an investigation


[16-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
just into him instead of biden


[16-Jan-20 08:48 PM] Opponent#3498
...literally fucking first article lmao


[16-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/795019348/montana-court-reverses-35-million-child-abuse-verdict-against-jehovahs-witnesses

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Montana Court Reverses $35 Million Child Abuse Verdict Against Jeh...
The unanimous Montana Supreme Court decision found that religious institutions are not always obligated to report child sexual abuse to authorities due to an exemption in Montana state law.
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[16-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a clusterfukk.


[16-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Jehovah's Witnesses had the usual "village elder" setup going on


[16-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they wanted to cover up some child abuse


[16-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, word's out and they're in court over it


[16-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
they argue that they're protected the same as a priest in a confession booth


[16-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the whole case centers on that, and so when the judge says "no", they appeal and Supreme Court says "actually yes" *unanimously*


[16-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So by allowing the original case to focus on that, the first judge basically accidentally expanded the law beyond its intent and now any old guy who's part of the local religion you report child abuse to can legally decide to not tell anyone.


[16-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Official JH doctrine is in fact to follow the law and report when there's two witnesses...but the argument *that the Supreme Court of the state accepted* that it's up to each individual clergy member to decide how to follow that because there's not like a monitoring mechanism.


[16-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, *Fox News* reporting that Trump's officially declared to hav broken the law is a big deal.


[16-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will be furious, and his supporters will be very confused.


[16-Jan-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf montana


[16-Jan-20 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/books/christopher-tolkien-dead.html

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Christopher Tolkien, Son of J.R.R. Tolkien and Keeper of His Legac...
As literary executor of his father’s estate, Mr. Tolkien compiled and edited works such as “The Silmarillion.”
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[16-Jan-20 09:59 PM] ononim#8141
:^(


[16-Jan-20 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
When will the LOTR franchise pass into public hands?


[16-Jan-20 10:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like yes, sad to see. But the Tolkein estate is like a multi-million dollar franchise built on movie and video game franchising at this point.


[16-Jan-20 10:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
But that's my hot take


[16-Jan-20 10:05 PM] ononim#8141
Do you really feel like people will let THIS get into public domain?


[16-Jan-20 10:05 PM] ononim#8141
Nuh some fucking ghould of the company or publisher will hang on it with grip of iron


[16-Jan-20 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh they will


[16-Jan-20 10:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or Disney will


[16-Jan-20 10:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because it's literally how copyright law is built now


[16-Jan-20 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This group has become a leftist echo chamber. We need diversity of thought. It’s scary how authoritarian the left has become. First I get criticized for standing on a street corner and shouting the n-word, and now I can’t attack trans people? There’s a war on free speech. The other day I even got arrested for dipping my testicles in the McDonalds ice cream machine. A McDonalds! There’s supposed to be free speech there! I just like cock and ball torture you know? But whenever I talk about that the left keeps poisoning my pizza rolls. In middle school I tried standing up to the leftist bullies by telling them that gay marriage is icky, and they shoved me in a locker. A locker! Can you believe it? And now I’m in college, and when I try to explain to people that there are only two genders there are no lockers there, so they take me to the nearby middle school to shove me in a locker there. Someday I pray that the gamers will rise up against the evil leftists who suppress our free speech. Until then, we live in a society.

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[16-Jan-20 10:56 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1217494393487331330?s=21

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Five more years of Tory rule is almost enough to make me despair.

But we can't despair. 

Because if we do, then the climate emergency will become the climate catastrophe.

In my maiden speech, I called for a Green New Deal to escape disaster capitalism – and build soci...
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[16-Jan-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Jan-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jan-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailynk.com/english/mother-faces-punishment-failing-save-kim-family-portraits

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Mother faces punishment for failing to save Kim family portraits -...
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[16-Jan-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1217942433616580609?s=21

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Corrupt Liar Adam Schiff must be so sad. 
 
Not a single contestant on Jeopardy knew his name. 😥
 
How many impeachment hoaxes does Shifty Schiff have to orchestrate in order to be recognized? Only time will tell! https://t.co/BD9cG1eR6r
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[17-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
oh jesus


[17-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought Daily NK was a satire site


[17-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's _not_


[17-Jan-20 12:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1217909231946477575?s=21

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I JUST GOT IMPEACHED FOR MAKING A PERFECT PHONE CALL!
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[17-Jan-20 12:18 AM] illumnious#7938
Perfect? lol


[17-Jan-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's not satire, it;s apparently news smuggled out of north korea with very great risk to the people delivering it


[17-Jan-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
um, he realizes he was impeached 29 days ago, right?


[17-Jan-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
or does trump's brain lag a month behind reality?


[17-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems to be stuck on loop


[17-Jan-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
oh sorry, 29 days ago


[17-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his impeachment trials are also falling apart on him further as everyone he;s thrown under the bus comes out of the woodwork to lop another inch off the leg of his chair


[17-Jan-20 12:32 AM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can pretend not to know them all he wants, but they;re still there. mocking him. spreading their truthful *lies* about him


[17-Jan-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it's eating him


[17-Jan-20 01:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK won't accept donations to ring big ben on Brexit day. "perfectly capable of using tax" Because why let a bunch of bitter bastards pay to piss off half the country when you can make everyone pay for it and piss them off even more?


[17-Jan-20 01:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/alexmipego/status/1216203595747643392?s=21

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@TheTweetOfGod Maybe Iran should build bases surrounding the USA.

Maybe then you would become nervous and have "accidents" too. 

Alas, as it stands you can talk all you want.
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[17-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like the US needs to build a few more bases.


[17-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iranians could escape!


[17-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm honestly suprised Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan allowed for US bases.


[17-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
given how hard they were (and still are) in Russia's orbit


[17-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tiny weak country next to a former enemy that they vaguely are buddy with? Of course the US would giv some offers they couldn't refuse.


[17-Jan-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/16/its-2020-and-floridas-supreme-court-just-ruled-favor-poll-tax

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It's 2020 and Florida's Supreme Court Just Ruled in Favor of a Pol...
"Florida cannot violate the U.S. Constitution's protections. The right to vote cannot be contingent on the ability to pay."
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[17-Jan-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
They really, really do not want black people to vote


[17-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeeep...


[17-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking looks like Florida's bakk in play for Republicans, they somehow got a final ruling contrary to the US constitution at the state Supreme Court level.


[17-Jan-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-rolls-out-policies-pushing-federal-funds-to-religious-groups.html

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[17-Jan-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Our pasta, who art in a colander, draining be your noodles. Thy noodle come, Thy sauce be yum, on top some grated Parmesan. Give us this day, our garlic bread, …and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trample on our lawns. And lead us not into vegetarianism, but deliver us some pizza, for thine is the meatball, the noodle, and the sauce, forever and ever. R’amen.


[17-Jan-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hail Satan!


[17-Jan-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember the high school my brother went to allowed Christian groups but the atheist group had to be called "Free Thinkers Club"


[17-Jan-20 02:32 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/llw902/status/1217932703233925123?s=21

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i don't... i don't know jessica, why did you let a convicted war criminal practice energy healing on you
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[17-Jan-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-appointed-judge-mocks-transgender-woman-s-gender-identity-opinion-n1117501

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Trump-appointed judge dismisses trans defendant's chosen pronouns
LGBTQ advocates and Democratic lawmakers had warned that Trump appointee Judge Stuart Kyle Duncan could not rule fairly on matters regarding LGBTQ people.
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[17-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People argue against this by saying "Oh but wouldn't a liberal judge not rule fairly against a person who was devout Christian or against abortion"


[17-Jan-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, because judges arent supposed to judge with a party stance


[17-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though those things might be firmly held, they're just personal beliefs. You could change them tomorrow.


[17-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Exactly.


[17-Jan-20 02:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie let me guess.  if it were a white felon going to vote this year they turn a blind eye


[17-Jan-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly, it would depend on what he;s registered as


[17-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[17-Jan-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
moops


[17-Jan-20 03:04 AM] jlun2#8758
"Wood"?


[17-Jan-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I realized it was a shitpost a little bit too late


[17-Jan-20 03:17 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/PATreasury/status/1216943795650158598

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Pennsylvania Treasury. (@PATreasury)
https://twitter.com/PATreasury/status/1216943795650158598
What if we took something like a subway, but made it unfathomably expensive and only for cars, and also make sure that it will never work?”—Elon Musk,,a genius.
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[17-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't realize cuban was a race


[17-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or canadian...


[17-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://9to5google.com/2020/01/16/eu-usb-c/

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Damien Wilde
https://9to5google.com/2020/01/16/eu-usb-c/
The EU wants to force all smartphones to adopt USB-C - 9to5Google
European lawmakers are in the process of discussing measures to essentially enforce a standardized USB-C charger for all smartphones sold within the region.
https://9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/10/google_pixel2xl_pixelbook_usb-c.jpg?resize=1024,512


[17-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God I wish that were the US


[17-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except this isn't far enough


[17-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be the only connector


[17-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
phones should have 2 USB-C connectors if companies are so insistent on getting rid of the headphone jack tbh


[17-Jan-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
they're taking them out of laptops now too


[17-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
y tho


[17-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Saves a square inch of wafer and like 20 cents in components, I guess


[17-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
board space, rather


[17-Jan-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/another-fatality-in-china-from-sars-linked-virus-as-mysterious-illness-spreads-to-third-asian-country/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Another fatality in China from SARS-linked virus as mysterious ill...
A second person has died in China from a mysterious SARS-linked virus that has stricken dozens and appeared in two other Asian countries, officials said. Local authorities said a 69-year-old man died on Wednesday in Wuhan, the central Chinese city believed to be the epicentre...
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[17-Jan-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
China


[17-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/16/susan-collins-approval-rating/4495142002/

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Susan Collins surpasses Mitch McConnell as the most unpopular sena...
The Maine Senator's net approval rating has dropped 10 points since the end of September, leaving her with a 52 percent disapproval rating
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[17-Jan-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD6QfeRil8

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The dark history of "gasoline baths" at the border
An alarming US border policy forced fumigations on migrants at the US-Mexico border. 

Become a Video Lab member! http://bit.ly/video-lab

In 1917, American health officials launched a campaign to use noxious, often toxic chemicals to delouse immigrants seeking to enter at th...
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[17-Jan-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dw, in 1917 America decided that eugenics was a great idea and the problem is LAZY MEXICANS WITH HEAD LICE, so began subjecting immigrants to dangerous chemicals *like Zyklon B*.


[17-Jan-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A while later, some Germans realized that using those same chemicals and tactics would also be *quite* effective at "cleaning" things of Jews.


[17-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something else to note is the terms used


[17-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
talking about how Mexicans should be screened for being "feeble" etc.


[17-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Trump's whole speech about how "they aren't sending their best...[their|they're] rapists..."?


[17-Jan-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately all this stuff rhymes.


[17-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Opponent#3498
```Our pasta, who art in a colander```
Chaos is the only true answer.


[17-Jan-20 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```A while later, some Germans realized that using those same chemicals and tactics would also be quite effective at "cleaning" things of Jews.```
German (as well as Allied, but they started it) usage of poison gas dates back to 1915. And at least Hitler, according to his writings, got his idea from that experience. (also iirc the head of  WW1 German war chem research division was a jew which is as good a reason to learn history as anything :P)


[17-Jan-20 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
although the core point stands. Back then, much like now, the most radical ideas travelled and spread the best.


[17-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't Hitler lose half his teeth from the effects of a chemical attack while in the trenches?


[17-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically Zyklon B was inspired by the US using it in El Paso


[17-Jan-20 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-praises-giuliani-but-distances-himself-from-ukraine-letter-2020-1

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Trump lavished praise on Giuliani, then hinted he may throw him un...
"I didn't know about a specific letter," he said, after investigators released a letter allegedly implicating him in Giuliani's quest for Biden dirt.
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[17-Jan-20 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-boris-johnson-defy-donald-trump-security-threat-huawei-deal-2020-1

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The UK is preparing to ignore Trump's threats and strike a deal wi...
Boris Johnson's administration is distancing itself from Trump amid repeated threats from the president to the United States' closest ally.
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[17-Jan-20 02:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie From the pic you posted in #general-discussion : For some reason, I thought it was going to be nazis instead of isis given the seemingly frequent pics of the former being posted on derpi


[17-Jan-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
contact lens solution is a scam


[17-Jan-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
really, you want me to pay $12 for a bottle of fancy salt water


[17-Jan-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
fucking hell


[17-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Jan-20 03:47 PM] byte[]#2610
"beginning" ok https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/01/17/it-is-beginning-to-look-like-the-u-s-has-a-corruption-problem-not-ukraine/

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[17-Jan-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-robert-hyde-stalk-ambassador-marie-yovanovitch.html

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Did Trump Goons Stalk Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch?
It’s now an open question if the president’s goons had hired other goons to stalk a U.S. ambassador.
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[17-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
The answer is obviously yes


[17-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Of course they did


[17-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Because in this administration the stupidest possible thing is always the truth


[17-Jan-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bd6c4100701592f9c89af6ee7d97dd00

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Putin's, Xi's ruler-for-life moves pose challenges to West
MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s Vladimir Putin and China's Xi Jinping have established themselves as the world’s most powerful authoritarian leaders in decades. Now it looks like they want to hang on to...
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[17-Jan-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/478433-virginia-legislature-passes-equal-rights-amendment

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Virginia passes Equal Rights Amendment
Both chambers of the Virginia state legislature passed the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) on Wednesday, becoming the 38th state to pass the resolution.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/richmond_virginia_statecapitol_102318gn3_lead.jpg


[17-Jan-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
@ dictators for life, well yeah. Even a world war would not threaten either of those positions, given that their rhethoric is already based on Cold War-esque hatred of the West.


[17-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
things seem like they won't get any better in any way that matters within our lifetimes. Now it's all but certain.


[17-Jan-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Jan-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Jan-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
pin?


[17-Jan-20 05:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] but the youtube video has the word theory on it and has nice graphics it must be true


[17-Jan-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
something I'll point out is that certain categories of observations are not scientific evidence but may be useful in guiding research questions


[17-Jan-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
which science may then answer


[17-Jan-20 06:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm just curious will he do anything about tne wealth hap in Russia or nah


[17-Jan-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin?


[17-Jan-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin wont do shit about the wealth gap, it creates a good politoical environment for him


[17-Jan-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every oligarch in the country obeys him and they stay above the peasents


[17-Jan-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wealth gap is a useful control device, it;s part of why republicans in america want to keep that shit where it is


[17-Jan-20 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Useful metaphor btw


[17-Jan-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
in medieval times, at feasts, people would eat with plates made of bread called trenchers


[17-Jan-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
that way, any gravy, spittle, etc. that drips as you eat gets absorbed, like with a modern paper plate


[17-Jan-20 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
after the feast was over, the trenchers would be given to the poor so they could eat the fukking random drippings of the upper classes having had a hearty meal with actual sauces and stuff.


[17-Jan-20 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is trikkle-down economics.


[17-Jan-20 06:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) and poor ppl vote republican.  huh


[17-Jan-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The white ones do. You see, the problem is that when you make people go down low on the hierarchy of needs, they stop being able to really properly analyze what's going on


[17-Jan-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
this then means they tend to vote for politicians that just *feel* good to them, saying things that *feel* right


[17-Jan-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
said politicians tend to be conservatives, smooth-talking swindlers or loud bashful demagogues


[17-Jan-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the main reasons dictators stay in power is an uneducated underfed populace doesn't know any better than to support them in this manner.


[17-Jan-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This is how it;s always been. This is reality. Why fight it now?"


[17-Jan-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something especially important to notice as well


[17-Jan-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
*the white ones* do


[17-Jan-20 06:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) don't worry about it the old white straight man in the sky will reward us once we die


[17-Jan-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
see, the current implication of race to class placement has effects


[17-Jan-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fear of the poor white person is that if blakks are elevated in status, he will then be on the bottom with them, even if he hasn't changed placement in the social hierarchy


[17-Jan-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The feeling of being *above* someone provides a sense of comfort that someone else has it worse


[17-Jan-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Republican rhetoric furthers this by talking about things as if blakks being elevated would put whites *under* them.


[17-Jan-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
This stokes fears that force the poor white man to justify saying the current hierarchy must be preserved.


[17-Jan-20 06:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie blakk sound like some Twitter meme


[17-Jan-20 06:39 PM] jlun2#8758
like thicc


[17-Jan-20 06:39 PM] jlun2#8758
or fukk


[17-Jan-20 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the great replacement is a useful conspiracy to that end for republicans. Just say immigrants are loooking to replace you as the majority, and all the buyers will rush to defend their place in society


[17-Jan-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this keeps the peasants from noticing it's the kings replacing them with the outsiders and tossing out the locals.


[17-Jan-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement

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Great Replacement
The Great Replacement (French: grand remplacement), also known as the replacement theory, is a white nationalist far-right conspiracy theory which states that, with the complicity or cooperation of "replacist" elites, the white French population—as well as white European po...


[17-Jan-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as white European population at large—is being progressively replaced with non-European peoples—specifically Arab, Berber and sub-Saharan Muslim populations from Africa and the Middle East—through mass migration, demographic growth and a European drop in the birth rate.[6][2]


[17-Jan-20 06:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) :nut:


[17-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know the best way to stop replacement like this?


[17-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reduce the massive population growth in developing countries by making them develop faster


[17-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
of course, white nationalists don't *actually* want to do that


[17-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
because then they'd be giving non-whites good things


[17-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they are only thinking short-term to begin with


[17-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately racism leads to irrational, stupid behavior that hurts your own position.


[17-Jan-20 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
or, a different angle. It's not up to a random white straight Joe on the street, whether or not the government (or corporations, or whoever, none of them likely to do it) invests into developing countries. Especially not to elevate them.


[17-Jan-20 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
racism, on the other hand, is much more personal and feels like it's something within personal reach.


[17-Jan-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you cant punch up, then punching down is way more effective!


[17-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Investing into developing countries or not is actually something that is a big difference in candidates


[17-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump especially believes in cutting all foreign aid


[17-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
even when Republicans tell him not to


[17-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Opponent#3498
sure there's voting, and occasional jack-in-the-box AOC to break up the monotony, but there's also lobbying, donors, party support...


[17-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Trump hears "doing this will lead to a flood of migrants" and unlike more traditionalist Republicans who are SOMEWHAT honest and say "that's a bad thing", he says "people will hate that, but it'll get me votes when they blame it on Democrats"


[17-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
people inherited this system from a bygone age and it feels immutable. And if changes are being made, they sure as sugar promise nothing good. (Ukraine's current shift for neolib 'for-profit everything', coupled with sub-poverty wages, comes to mind)


[17-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And his base goes YEEHAW THOSE MEXICANS DIDN'T DESERVE IT (even tho it wasn't Mexicans)


[17-Jan-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
well Trump is a special case. Everything wrong with modern politics , amped to 13.


[17-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
but even without him.


[17-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
world built on the basis of 'for-profit everything'. That's the reality for all of us, I imagine. It transcends borders.


[17-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
and it's here to stay, and there's fuck all to do about it.


[17-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It will be here as longwe have selfish assholes on earth.


[17-Jan-20 07:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie Mexico is an European country right


[17-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
selfish assholes in positions of power. Those most likely to have the drive to get there.


[17-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
so, indefinitely.


[17-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Between Syria and Albuquerque, obviously.


[17-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They get there because they are not constrained by any moral boundaries.


[17-Jan-20 07:12 PM] jlun2#8758
so trump 2020 is guaranteed I assume ?


[17-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump lost a ton of support after winning and has never regained it.


[17-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any Dem can win 2020


[17-Jan-20 07:14 PM] jlun2#8758
i assume the physical law of young people not voting will remain


[17-Jan-20 07:14 PM] jlun2#8758
well, at least they upvote


[17-Jan-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the generations advance


[17-Jan-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials are mostly in their 30s now


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomers will be voting


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
In small amounts


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers will be slightly more dead


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] jlun2#8758
dont people become more conservative growing up


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X will be at its peak for power


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
"conservative" in a narrow sense


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] jlun2#8758
so more millenials being republicans


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
they want to preserve the things they grew up with


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] jlun2#8758
hm


[17-Jan-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
if they grew up with equality, they keep fighting for it


[17-Jan-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent yeah, that's a good point. racism is not just "oh my god he said the n word"


[17-Jan-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
it's large, structural differences in economic and legal opportunity


[17-Jan-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservatives arent exclusively republican, though republicans are mostly conservative


[17-Jan-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is what happens when everyone is forced into 2 lanes


[17-Jan-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
**conservative definition:** holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.


[17-Jan-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you grew up in a region of peace, you;re more likely to be fighting to keep it


[17-Jan-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you grew up in a wealthy family with religious overtones, you;re morelikely to fight to keep that


[17-Jan-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[17-Jan-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump tries to fake his own death during all this, he;s going to fail hard because hell feel the incessant need to tweet about it directly after it happens


[17-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The do nothing democrats and witch hunting never trumpers cant touch me now that i'm dead!
KAGA TRUMP 2020"


[17-Jan-20 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-51149224

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Brazilian minister fired after echoing Goebbels
Roberto Alvim used parts of a speech by Nazi Germany's propaganda chief, sparking outrage.
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[17-Jan-20 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too much written stuff


[18-Jan-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.timesofisrael.com/uncut-gems-uses-age-old-jewish-stereotypes-nonstop-why-is-there-no-backlash/

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‘Uncut Gems’ uses age-old Jewish stereotypes nonstop. Why is t...
In his latest film, Adam Sandler depicts a sleazy, greasy, greedy, dishonest diamond businessman. How have he and the Jewish directors avoided criticism?
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[18-Jan-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>2020


[18-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
>realizing that Adam Sandler movies are full of awful *jewish* stereotypes


[18-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has the Times of Israel been under a rokk for 20 years?


[18-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have you read the article?


[18-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing in it changes this.


[18-Jan-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like they don't know things like 8 Crazy Nights exist.


[18-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess they just saw the Zohan movie was a thing and assumed that it is not in fact some really dumb comedy.


[18-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-51113371/submitting-to-my-husband-like-it-s-1959-why-i-became-a-tradwife

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Why I submit to my husband like it's 1959
Alena is a #tradwife and she's not alone
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[18-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[18-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Jan-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry about the armbands, we just think the 40s were the best time ever and want to bring bakk that Adolf guy's real fun policies.


[18-Jan-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh this? It's just a sword, see, we decided that actually it was the *15*40s, so we're gonna go make sure the lower classes don't get too uppity in yonder fields.


[18-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, how the fukk did Uncut Gems do WELL?


[18-Jan-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the most base idiotic story possible.


[18-Jan-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did it just come out with everyone bummed out about all other options right as Jumanji exited?


[18-Jan-20 12:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm tired and read that as "trade wife" and was like what


[18-Jan-20 12:19 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would they be accepting of this:
https://www.deviantart.com/nathie/art/Kuechenschlampe-313365533


[18-Jan-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
oh account nuked. wait


[18-Jan-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
what was the image?


[18-Jan-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-hear-faithless-elector-case-ahead-2020-presidential-election

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The Supreme Court said Friday it will hear a case over whether presidential electors have to vote in accordance with their states’ popular vote in the Electoral College.
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[18-Jan-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758

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[18-Jan-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow male trad wife


[18-Jan-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If SCOTUS says they can be bound, it completely violates the point of having electors at all


[18-Jan-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it says they can't, then it makes a stronger case for "democracy" being a stretch and weakens the whole inter state compact about going with overall popular vote.


[18-Jan-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
what do you predict the result would be?


[18-Jan-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, wouldn't it strengthen the whole interstate compact about going with overall popular vote thing?


[18-Jan-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, because what is at issue is whether a state can force its electors to vote a certain way.


[18-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the states lose, then the interstate compact does nothing, the electors could still go with the state's vote over the people's vote regardless of the state being part of the compact.


[18-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[18-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing in the constitution says the electors must vote according to the state's votes


[18-Jan-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are bound to it by state law, which is what is at issue.


[18-Jan-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A state can split its electors, or whatever.


[18-Jan-20 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
the whole idea behind the electoral college was to prevent the "common people" from having final say over who gets elected, ostensibly to stop a smooth-talking dictator from getting into power


[18-Jan-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The question is whether the electors hav freedom, or the states hav freedom with the electors as pawns.


[18-Jan-20 12:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  well that sure worked


[18-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
the electoral college hasn't behaved according to its original intended purpose for decades


[18-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
probably for over a century even


[18-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It never did.


[18-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the electoral college actually had any purpose, it would be to select the president and vice president separately with the popular vote as a ruff guide


[18-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But ever since the start, it's just been "my state's guys want this guy, so that's my vote"


[18-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By the 1870s that would have been completely unworkable


[18-Jan-20 12:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1218309736594116608?s=21

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[18-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if it lasted to near modern period


[18-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JFK with VP Nixon


[18-Jan-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
why is trump tweeting in arabic


[18-Jan-20 12:52 AM] illumnious#7938
Heck if I know


[18-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
he discovered the magic of Google Translate


[18-Jan-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd probably be amazed too.


[18-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
he thinks this is how diplomacy works


[18-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
by just talking to other people in badly translated foreign languages


[18-Jan-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Twitter is blocked in Iran


[18-Jan-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure if he knows that


[18-Jan-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
He don’t give a shit


[18-Jan-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, lots of right wingers still upset about Knives Out


[18-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[18-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come on, the sole person in the family other than the author that actually did anything independently to be successful is the kid who runs an alt right Twitter


[18-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a complicated whodunnit that ultimately results in an old guy giving everything to his nurse and not his ungrateful family


[18-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who felt entitled to it despite doing nothing


[18-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You uh


[18-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could have said it was a movie


[18-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Without spoiling it


[18-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically impossible to spoil it, watch it and you'll realize why.


[18-Jan-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My point was that the only two people in the movie that did anything independently was the author and the young teenager who runs an alt right Twitter account


[18-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking forcing people to compromise would change things, however.


[18-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, we needed a VP that was on the other side when Reagan happened.


[18-Jan-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not having it led to this.


[18-Jan-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
80s liberals were so, so weak


[18-Jan-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
People really like to obscure MLK's real political views


[18-Jan-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
That said, it'd be pretty bad for the neolibs if the kids ever found out one of the most influential black voices of all time was a socialist


[18-Jan-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
hmmmmm https://i.redd.it/74z2xts55db41.jpg

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[18-Jan-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-just-hired-jeffrey-epsteins-lawyers-alan-dershowitz-and-ken-starr

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Trump Just Hired Jeffrey Epstein’s Lawyers
The men who helped Jeffrey Epstein walk free in a sweetheart plea deal—and allegedly abuse again—are now on Trump's high-powered legal team for his impeachment trial.
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[18-Jan-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
> This seems to be an attempt to intimidate any senator or witness who had any association with Jeffrey Epstien - those lawyers know facts that the public will never ever know.


[18-Jan-20 02:39 AM] jlun2#8758
Pretty sure they get off of those "facts" every night too.


[18-Jan-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh yes


[18-Jan-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Dershowitz and Starr are high profile sex offenders


[18-Jan-20 02:40 AM] illumnious#7938
> hmmmmm https://i.redd.it/74z2xts55db41.jpg
@byte[] oof

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[18-Jan-20 02:40 AM] jlun2#8758
is that legit or fake news


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
legit


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
she couldn't afford her medical bills either


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] jlun2#8758
the beating? rip.


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
this is america


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dershowitz has argued really, really hard against age of consent


[18-Jan-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And statutory rape.


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] jlun2#8758
> "We are investigating and following up on this incident working directly with the Union City Police Department, and taking disciplinary actions," school officials said in an email to parents. "We believe this incident to be between the two Logan students and does not appear to involve any other Logan students."
In my experience it means they wont do shit


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
To be fair I don't think if an 18 year old gets it on with a 16 year old that it has to be automatically labeled rape


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
That doesn't make sense to me


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was just that, Its, he might be fine, but the problem is


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
this guy not only defended Epstein


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he teaches law classes


[18-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he REALLY focuses on men accused of rape


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  "How to rape, consequence free"


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah there's a difference between believing those things and believing them and being close to Epstein


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure he doesn't like that the current culture actually talks about rape as a thing that happens.


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One is just an edgy opinion and the other is super suspect.


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants the "traditional" culture where nobody talks about sex


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
ever


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wrote a book about how bad MeToo is


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need snippan och snoppen blaring on every TV in America


[18-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Puritanism must die in a fire


[18-Jan-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cancel culture's a mistake, but actually saying that yes this guy committed rape isn't.


[18-Jan-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We need the Surgeon General who wanted to teach about masturbation in schools back.


[18-Jan-20 02:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  #politics  and my newsfeed make it seem like it'll never die and christain right will rule forever


[18-Jan-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine leftist media is going to be sure to mention Epstein every time they refer to Trump's defence team


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
"leftist"


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't they?


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News will be using it, man


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately, why shouldn't they?


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's top tier clikkbait and also correct.


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well they should


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alan Dershowitz guaranteed has skeletons of little boys in his closet.


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tie his name to epstein, get real deep in there with the name tie


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also like


[18-Jan-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
do realize


[18-Jan-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't say they shouldn't


[18-Jan-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should


[18-Jan-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump called Epstein "a great guy who loves the ladies a lot like I do, a bit on the younger side, though"

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[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, actual quote is even worse


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think there was a "though" in his statement


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't find a quote that includes it


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just pasted the actual quote


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
yeah, no though.


[18-Jan-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy … He’s a lot of fun to be with. He likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”


[18-Jan-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump likes em young too


[18-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, Trump didn't put an implication of difference there.


[18-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ouch.


[18-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So by saying that, he was implying that like, liking them young means more enjoyment and is good.


[18-Jan-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well at the very least it's not a condemnation or attempt at separation


[18-Jan-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's basically "and he likes redheads", a neutral statement of fact


[18-Jan-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Context tho


[18-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He sandwiched the thing about liking "younger" women between "He's a lot of fun to be with" and "Jeffrey enjoys his social life."


[18-Jan-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
He likes to give his opponents click bait like that


[18-Jan-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
also note that trump with high probability raped a 14 year old at one of epstein's parties


[18-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The clear implication is that Trump shared such younger women and that it's a source of enjoyment for them to be such.


[18-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, sure, Trump's on the record for liking to snoop on underage naked girls, but the quote itself, IMO, only says that he doesn't think fucking teens is wrong


[18-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(which is p.bad, obvs)


[18-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(but not him on record going "I fucked a 12yo with Jeff and it was aces!")


[18-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bluesnews.com/s/207324/job-biden-on-cda-and-video-games


[18-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every Boomer believes this shit.


[18-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can get Bernie off his greatest hits he'd probably say Pokemon teaches kids about cockfighting or something.


[18-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-17/trump-rolls-back-michelle-obama-s-school-lunch-nutrition-rules


[18-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
> The Trump administration announced a rollback of Michelle Obama’s signature initiative for healthy school lunches on Friday, coinciding with the former first lady’s birthday.


[18-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit this is petty as fuck


[18-Jan-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
always the stupidest possible thing


[18-Jan-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Making children become obese to own the libs

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[18-Jan-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  Being old makes you hate video games change my mind.


[18-Jan-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My parents play videogames


[18-Jan-20 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/prince-andrew-may-lose-24-hour-security-after-epstein-scandal-20200117-p53s8g.html

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Prince Andrew may lose 24-hour security after Epstein scandal
The decision comes as the 93-year-old monarch and senior royals continue to deal with the implications of the Prince Harry and Meghan's decision to step away from front-line duties.
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[18-Jan-20 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most old people dont actually hate video games


[18-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's amazing to watch the british royal family implode so quickly


[18-Jan-20 04:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/busted-national-archives-caught-doctoring-exhibit-to-remove-criticism-of-president-trump-from-women/?utm_source=push_notifications

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The National Archives were caught editing an artifact from the Trump administration to remove criticism of the president, according to a bombshell new report in The Washington Post. The newspaper reported on a “large color photograph” at the National Archives exhibit mark...
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[18-Jan-20 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so you're telling me that the pedo who's under scrutiny for being associated with a pedo who died under a lack of supervision is now going to have less supervision?


[18-Jan-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[18-Jan-20 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to, the british hunger games


[18-Jan-20 04:46 AM] illumnious#7938
exactly


[18-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hungry pedo games


[18-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hungry Hungry Pedos!


[18-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The rich have for centuries relished in pedophilia


[18-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
de Sade was writing historical fiction that wasn't too far away from fact, in hindsight.


[18-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it used to be something for the masses


[18-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant more like the orgies of absolute degenerate behavior


[18-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The late 19th century made it more for the extrem ends of society.


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Orgies of absolute degeneracy are kind of natural to humanity


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most Native Americans 200 years ago would not giv a single shit about this stuff, Its.


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as bad as de Sade though, that was political


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing about elites is just


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they make it not okay for the masses mostly out of selfish reasons


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
while pretending to go along with actual moral reasons


[18-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
while they don't care at all


[18-Jan-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just want to continue it themselves, the rules don't apply to them etc.


[18-Jan-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing to realize


[18-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the vast majority of social structure is just to make it so the people on top don't hav the rules apply to them


[18-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea of rules that apply to everyone is *new*


[18-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the English Civil fukking War


[18-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Charles I


[18-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you know about the trial of Charles I and the related bullshit?


[18-Jan-20 05:10 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBIX9du6gXI well, I'm going to say it again, We lived in a motherfucking shitty society

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[18-Jan-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can this please stop being posted?


[18-Jan-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a shitty lawmaker shitposting to say GUNS ARE THE SAME AS PHONES


[18-Jan-20 05:11 AM] ononim#8141
Fourth time


[18-Jan-20 05:11 AM] ononim#8141
Reposted


[18-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next guy to post it gets banned


[18-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/rfhyde1

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[18-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This entire account is top cringe


[18-Jan-20 05:13 AM] illumnious#7938
rolled eyes https://twitter.com/rfhyde1/status/172327500293226496?s=20

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@realDonaldTrump I truly wish and wished you'd run for President!
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[18-Jan-20 05:13 AM] ononim#8141
>pro-God


[18-Jan-20 05:13 AM] ononim#8141
Cringe


[18-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is rebel against anything that so much as resembles the Christian "God"


[18-Jan-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's okay this guy was involuntarily committed for yelling that the Doral gardeners were out to get him


[18-Jan-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure he's fine


[18-Jan-20 05:15 AM] ononim#8141
How can anyone believe in a personafied god in this matetial reality and not turn into some variation of gnostic is beyond me


[18-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inertia.


[18-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a ton of cultural inertia.


[18-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Christianity was BUILT to force itself onto people.


[18-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why it's still around.


[18-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tolerant religions of "do whatever" don't tend to last.


[18-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You expand or die.


[18-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religions are basically mental viruses.


[18-Jan-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was also built with absorption in mind which means it eats other religions and incorporates their corpses as camouflage while it slowly consumes your culture


[18-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
See Native Americans, the Sami people, etc.


[18-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Animistic religions are busy all being "let's just hav sex and not care and treat animals like equals"


[18-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity comes in and is like "this, that, and that are illegal now, we will execute you if you say otherwise"


[18-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a huge organized effort all at once with its tendrils in the local gov't


[18-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity thinks soooo many things are a sin that even if you can fight for some, inevitably you WILL lose traditional culture.


[18-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, okay fine, fukking the reindeer? Sure. Fukking before marriage? ...difficult, but okay. THEN it starts saying that treating bears as anything but mindless machines to turn into rugs is verboten, and the Sami people are fukked.


[18-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
(they traditionally would sing a sing about how it's not their fault they *hav to* kill the bear, respecting it almost as a person etc.)


[18-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's right, you can blame a lakk of animal rights on Christianity.


[18-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most cultures that rely a lot on hunting tended to at least like, pray before going at it.


[18-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity however teaches that animals aren't worth considering at all.


[18-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie yes, I know about Charles I


[18-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He deserved everything that he had coming, William Lenthall did nothing wrong.


[18-Jan-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was my issue with hunting chats in my hvac class, it all sounded very un human. there was no concern for the animals, it was full of blood lust and kill counts and talks of wanting to shoot deer on a conveyor belt


[18-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure the reason animistic cultures tend to respect animals is that it's a way of preventing overhunting


[18-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you think of only hunting when you NEED TO then you're not going to just hunt something to extinction, probably.


[18-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity however arose in agricultural societies.


[18-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't understand the idea of sustainibility or respect.


[18-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is just "plant more"


[18-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Resources are viewed as given by god to be used as much as you want.


[18-Jan-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we burn the earth, god will just give us more because we;re his spoiled rich kids!"


[18-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, yes


[18-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and because they lived in FUKKING DESERTS WITH FLOODPLAINS


[18-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
it worked


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the point tho is


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was a serious question


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
of whether you could charge a king with crimes **period**


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were seriously people around, who Cromwell forced out, who said you couldn't


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that as the king


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
he could invite foreign armies to BURN THE LAND


[18-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that it was wrong to punish him for it.


[18-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of universal rules of ethics is new.


[18-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe spent well over a thousand years under systems where the people up top were completely untouchable.


[18-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not going to go away in just 3 or 4 centuries.


[18-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will fight.


[18-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is to destroy **ALL** royal families.


[18-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire concept should be seen immediately for what it is


[18-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
unjustified heaping importance on people solely for who their ancestors are.


[18-Jan-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Prince Andrew and all the royals die in a fire tomorrow, you won't see any tears from me.


[18-Jan-20 05:42 AM] ononim#8141
||based||


[18-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, the French Revolution didn't go far enuff, because there are still royals in the world.


[18-Jan-20 05:44 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/us/politics/next-democratic-debate-qualify.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

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Candidates like Andrew Yang and Michael R. Bloomberg, who were excluded from the last debate, can take a new path to the stage for the next one, to be held Feb. 7 in New Hampshire.
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[18-Jan-20 05:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/national-archives-exhibit-blurs-images-critical-of-president-trump/2020/01/17/71d8e80c-37e3-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html


[18-Jan-20 06:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/01/michigan-expands-recall-to-marijuana-from-13-dispensaries-in-9-cities.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=muskegonchronicle_sf&utm_source=twitter

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Michigan expands recall to marijuana from 13 dispensaries in 9 cities
The Michigan Regulatory Agency on Friday, Jan. 17, recalled more marijuana linked to past lab testing issues.
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[18-Jan-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I was going to indulge you with the history of monarchy from the 16th century on  but I've been going further into colonial law recently


[18-Jan-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was basically "Fukk you, leave the colony"


[18-Jan-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would suggest someone interested in this area read _Roger Williams and the Creation of the American Soul: Church, State, and the Birth of Liberty_ as a starting point.


[18-Jan-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though you don't really need to and just need to say: Fuck John Winthrop


[18-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
> It is in small, incremental ways like this article demonstrates that we inch ever closer to a totalitarian state.  With all due respect to WAPO, probably 95% of the American people will not be aware of these modifications, and even among those that do there will be a "no big deal" attitude.
> 
> And in the next year or two, if our beloved leader is re-elected, people probably won't notice right away that there are more and larger pictures of the great leader exhibited in public and private institutions, and correspondingly there will be fewer and fewer public displays of people and ideas that disagree or heaven forbid criticize our exalted leader.
> 
> These modifications might be a small step but the direction they are heading is ominous.


[18-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
bit of a doomer take, but the top comment on that washington post article has a point


[18-Jan-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/national-archives-exhibit-blurs-images-critical-of-president-trump/2020/01/17/71d8e80c-37e3-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html>


[18-Jan-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[18-Jan-20 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't political and was already linked in #general-discussion this morning


[18-Jan-20 07:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
oh. alright i'll remove it then


[18-Jan-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
@ Nebbie that was an interesting take on Christianity tbh. Not something I've heard before.


[18-Jan-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, the thing to realize is Christianity emerged from early agrarian societies in a particular place trying to survive as essentially an early rulebook that later got expounded on with a more liberal messiah figure.


[18-Jan-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
While a lot of cultural stuff is arbitrary, things like hunting customs really can't be, cause a culture that works terribly for its environment eventually has to change.


[18-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe if a big monotheistic religion had *started* somewhere like northern europe, it would've led to very, very different treatment of the environment.


[18-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, I don't think such would be likely if everything happened over again with slightly different starting conditions.


[18-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You kinda need a big agrarian society to hav the specialized people to form an organized religion.


[18-Jan-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a view of EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT to spread rapidly with the nations you parasite onto as such a religion.


[18-Jan-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting a religion that knows how to handle resources you can overexploit easily in a good way would require very specific conditions in the ancient world.


[18-Jan-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd probably need a large tribe to migrate south and become agrarian very rapidly.


[18-Jan-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
While stealing a written language from others in the area.


[18-Jan-20 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/17/sanders-warren-vice-president-treasury-secretary/

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The Sanders Campaign Researched Whether Warren Could Be Both Vice ...
The answer is yes, which could be unsettling news on Wall Street.
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[18-Jan-20 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
> The presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders has researched the question of whether the same person can serve as both vice president and treasury secretary, according to three sources on the campaign. The person the Sanders campaign had in mind with the inquiry was Sen. Elizabeth Warren, his rival for the nomination and the bane of Wall Street over the last decade.


[18-Jan-20 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
> The answer the lawyers came back with was yes: There is nothing in the Constitution that bars the vice president from also serving as treasury secretary. Sanders has made no final decisions on a potential running mate or cabinet officers, considering such questions premature and presumptuous, but the research into the question of Warren’s dual eligibility reflects the political affinity that has long existed between the two — an affinity that was dealt a setback over the past week, as the pair clashed over the contents of a year-old private conversation. The sources were not authorized to speak publicly about internal deliberations.


[18-Jan-20 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, bernie president and warren as both vice president and treasury secretary


[18-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
check em


[18-Jan-20 12:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie relevant to the monrch stuff


[18-Jan-20 12:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jan-20 12:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/disney-dropping-fox-20th-century-studios-1203470349/

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Disney Drops Fox Name, Will Rebrand as 20th Century Studios, Searc...
The mouse has officially killed the fox. In a move at once unsurprising and highly symbolic, the Walt Disney Company is dropping the “Fox” brand from the 21st Century Fox assets it acqu…
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[18-Jan-20 12:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**Assimilate into the mouse. All futile displays of resistance will be crushed.**


[18-Jan-20 01:00 PM] jlun2#8758
tbh 21st Century Mouse


[18-Jan-20 01:02 PM] jlun2#8758
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from #memes-and-shitposts

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[18-Jan-20 01:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope this comes with an end to family fox


[18-Jan-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/indiana-bill-would-require-trump-administration-blessing-to-retire-coal-ear/570530/

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Indiana bill would require Trump administration blessing to retire...
The bill would prevent utilities from retiring plants early or otherwise decreasing operations unless explicitly directed by the federal government, not counting the Environmental Protection Agency.
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[18-Jan-20 01:20 PM] jlun2#8758
Do Christian-right think there's unlimited amounts of coal beneath the surface like a video game?


[18-Jan-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering it;s mostly old rich white guys, the idea is that they profit off it now, brain wash their miners, and die before any consequences fall on their head. thus leaving the next generation to pic, up their dying mess of a planet


[18-Jan-20 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they could turn green tomorrow but why do that when it costs money to convert your equipment?


[18-Jan-20 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hoard your money, never spend except for lobby


[18-Jan-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for the truly "devout" in power, they think god will just hand them the keys to a new world full of shiny metals and cash once they destroy this planet


[18-Jan-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because christianity does not teach to value resources as finite


[18-Jan-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
God gave you that coal to burn, and once it's gone, it;s your job to purge the world of heretics valuing their resources as finite and burn through that too!


[18-Jan-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1218086615261831169

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#BREAKING: Ukrainian Prime Minister Oleksiy Honcharuk submits resignation letter.
"To remove any doubts in our respect for and trust in the president, I have written a resignation letter and submitted it to the president," according to his announcement on Facebook
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[18-Jan-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
@prism stryder(intexda) unfounded hope, dinsey bought only most of fox, leaving the news channel its own thing


[18-Jan-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
so yeah


[18-Jan-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
it just means that the mouse and its grip on the media grew all the while fox "news" remained the same


[18-Jan-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was tlaking about family guy but ok


[18-Jan-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox news is not at all family content


[18-Jan-20 01:58 PM] jlun2#8758
#BreakUpDisney


[18-Jan-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney, facebook, and google


[18-Jan-20 02:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  that sounds almost impossible in my lifetime


[18-Jan-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3f04b2def4bf5a304aab05838b59c362

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Virginia's highest court upholds weapons ban at gun rally
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia's highest court on Friday upheld a ban on firearms at an upcoming pro-gun rally in the state's capital, an event that authorities feared could erupt in violence at...
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[18-Jan-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ac8b95b2f1fec5f7a318cb6066128350

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Iowa Democrats treat Warren-Sanders dust-up as 'Who cares?'
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Ann Stromquist watched this week’s Democratic presidential debate like the research scientist she is. She studied the candidates' answers carefully, looking for something to...
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[18-Jan-20 02:34 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/17/tilda/

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[18-Jan-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jan-20 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/indiana-bill-would-require-trump-administration-blessing-to-retire-coal-ear/570530/

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Indiana bill would require Trump administration blessing to retire...
The bill would prevent utilities from retiring plants early or otherwise decreasing operations unless explicitly directed by the federal government, not counting the Environmental Protection Agency.
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[18-Jan-20 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
THE DREADED SOCIALISM


[18-Jan-20 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
everyone wants capitalism until it hurts *their* industry


[18-Jan-20 03:27 PM] Crow#5457
literally passing near-socialist regulations that not only prevent the construction of new natural gas power plants (which is what the market is moving to in favor of coal power plants), but also making it so that coal companies can't retire or EVEN REDUCE OPERATIONS without a permit from the federal (read: trump) administration


[18-Jan-20 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
while the first one is a regulation, the second one is the government ordering companies not to do something which may not be (it definitely isn't) in their benefit, which is the dreaded "socialism" that conservatives act like they're afraid of


[18-Jan-20 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not clear how this law could even work


[18-Jan-20 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
e.g. what would the legal ramifications be of investors abandoning a coal company and forcing it into bankruptcy


[18-Jan-20 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
who pays for operations to continue


[18-Jan-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
they'd probably try to subsidize it like trump's doing with the farmers


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
and... they appropriate the funds to do that from...


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
taxes, obviously


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean which spending programs are they going to cut


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
you know the GOP will never raise taxes


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
no, I mean pass a whole new "save the coal" tax


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah no they won't do that


[18-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
and market it as saving coal


[18-Jan-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
it really sounds like they'd go full regulation and even borderline socialist to keep coal power floating


[18-Jan-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
the only principle they have is lib-owning


[18-Jan-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
this legislation accomplishes that goal


[18-Jan-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't need to think about the consequences


[18-Jan-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
here's hoping it doesn't pass


[18-Jan-20 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
> he group is chaired by Soliday as well as state Sen. Eric Koch, R


[18-Jan-20 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
hmm


[18-Jan-20 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
wonder if related to Kochs


[18-Jan-20 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
> We believe that continued movement away from coal-fired electricity generation could lead to further increases in electricity rates in Indiana


[18-Jan-20 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah so that's a lie


[18-Jan-20 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
utilities are looking at gas-fired generators


[18-Jan-20 03:36 PM] byte[]#2610
which are far less expensive to operate from an environmental standpoint than coal


[18-Jan-20 03:36 PM] byte[]#2610
the fuel is less expensive too and much easier to transport


[18-Jan-20 03:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd prefer gas-fired over coal-fired any day


[18-Jan-20 03:37 PM] byte[]#2610
ideally we'd have neither but this is what we've got


[18-Jan-20 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
lol https://www.theroot.com/new-book-reveals-trump-s-a-bigger-dumber-asshole-than-1841062646

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[18-Jan-20 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
you should have used your big brain

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[18-Jan-20 03:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[18-Jan-20 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"I look forward to taking discovery of Mr. Nunes."


[18-Jan-20 03:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's almost better than the last line


[18-Jan-20 04:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I would love to read a story about that ancient evil


[18-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then the great evil became president and was loved by most


[18-Jan-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/fbi-arrests-three-suspected-neo-nazis-ahead-of-virginia-gun-rally-source-idUSKBN1ZF2B3

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Alleged neo-Nazis caught with assault rifle charged ahead of Virgi...
Three suspected members of a neo-Nazi group appeared in a Maryland court on Thur...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200116&t=2&i=1477340989&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0F1OE


[18-Jan-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177

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FBI arrests three more members of 'The Base'
Six suspected white supremacists have been arrested in what appeared to be a co-ordinated operation.
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[18-Jan-20 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Y'all Qaeda


[18-Jan-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
> Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə, ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/; Arabic: القاعدة‎ al-Qāʿidah, IPA: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base"


[18-Jan-20 06:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Y'all Qaeda therefore translates as "Your [all's] Base"


[18-Jan-20 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly the most cosmopolitan, almost left-wing rebranding. A pure "Mi casa is your casa" approach to militancy, unrealized by the weird right-libertarian types who'd meme it


[18-Jan-20 06:13 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  apparently they just want a sense of community
<https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/08/09/why-young-men-join-white-supremacist-groups>


[18-Jan-20 06:14 PM] jlun2#8758
tsundere nazi
<https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/17/vegas-tenold-everything-you-love-will-burn-q-and-a-nazis>
> My six years covering neo-Nazis: 'They're all vying for the affections of Russia'


[18-Jan-20 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can really see the supremacy in those mugshots


[18-Jan-20 06:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
That moment when capitalism has systematically de-territorialized traditional or organic processes of community organizing to allow for the re-territorialization of such communities along racial lines, as opposed to the organic lines, which would lead to non-racial organization based on the realization we're all equally grifted by the bosses


[18-Jan-20 06:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Restore the militant union pls


[18-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they look for people who are angry, looking for someone to blame, or who feel left out, powerless, afraid, or trodden upon. And they give them a target for that anger, a bond forged in hatred towards a common enemy and a new found sense of united purpose.
"Look at those around you. They want what you have. They've made you an outcast. You're better than them, but you have to fight for it. Join us and we can stomp them down together."


[18-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is typically how new members for groups like this are recruited


[18-Jan-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The heads of these groups tend to be some wealthy individual looking to militarize a group of hateful saps into doing their bidding


[18-Jan-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in this case, the NRA


[18-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if we'll see any senators arrested for speaking during the trial


[18-Jan-20 06:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That will depend, I guess, on how well Roberts does his job as a moderator


[18-Jan-20 06:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I fully expect Graham or someone to accuse him of being biased or partisan by siding frequently with the prosecution in objections


[18-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/17/sanders-warren-vice-president-treasury-secretary/

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The answer is yes, which could be unsettling news on Wall Street.
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[18-Jan-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or, I suppose, if Roberts goes so far as to call for certain senators to be recused. Perhaps luckily for the Senate, none of the names named in the articles of impeachment are in the legislative branch


[18-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
so uh, I linked this yesterday


[18-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
and missed a juicy bit near the end


[18-Jan-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh?


[18-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
> Not long after meeting with Sanders at the end of 2018 to discuss her impending presidential run, Warren hosted an off-the-record dinner with a number of journalists, according to sources with knowledge of it. At the dinner, Warren was asked about her meeting with Sanders, and in the course of the discussion, she relayed that Sanders had warned that he didn’t believe a woman could beat Trump in 2020. Different reporters recalled the comments differently, a mirror image of the dispute between Warren and Sanders over exactly what Sanders said — with Warren saying that Sanders argued a woman couldn’t beat Trump, while Sanders said that he only said Trump would weaponize misogyny against a woman, not that it would work. (The Intercept was not at the dinner. Most politicians hold informal, off-record dinners or meetings with journalists, though it’s not something Sanders is known to do. Occasionally details from those meetings leak, but it’s rare.)
> 
> From there, the piece of news entered the journalistic bloodstream, circulating among reporters as gossip but not finding its way into print. On Monday, it finally did, with CNN’s M.J. Lee reporting that according to four sources — described as “two people Warren spoke with directly soon after the encounter, and two people familiar with the meeting” — Sanders had told Warren, according to CNN’s paraphrasing, that “he did not believe a woman could win.”
> 
> It was widely assumed in the immediate aftermath of the story that Warren’s campaign had planted the story. Indeed, CNN anchor Erin Burnett said as much on air. But Burnett was merely making an assumption, and had no inside knowledge of the sources, two CNN sources told The Intercept.


[18-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
> Warren told some reporters, in an off-the-record meeting right after meeting with Sanders, that he told her a woman can't beat Trump. The media knew that story for over a year, and waited until right before Iowa to leak to themselves, then CNN publicly "made an assumption" that Warren's campaign was the source and had just leaked it. Not only did they smear Sanders by turning "A woman can't beat Trump in 2020 because he'll use sexist attacks" into "A woman can't be president", they smeared Warren by framing her for the attack and putting her into a position where she couldn't deny it because there were reporters who'd say she told them at the time. The successfully damaged both progressive candidates while starting a feud between supporters of both that will carry on past this election and hurt progressives going forward on other issues by making it harder to work together.


[18-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
the media needs to be regulated


[18-Jan-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-brags-killed-2-for-price-of-1-soleimani-strike-2020-1

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Trump brags his strike on Soleimani killed '2 for the price of 1' ...
The president recalled how US military officials counted down the seconds leading up to the strike outside the Baghdad International airport.
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[18-Jan-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51163865

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Harry and Meghan to give up HRH titles - palace
Harry and Meghan will no longer use their HRH titles and will not receive public funds for royal duties, palace says
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[18-Jan-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Can we fucking annihilate the royal family now


[18-Jan-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Also can we do the same thing with the vatican


[18-Jan-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Every time the fucking pope lifts a finger there's a media frenzy about like, "POPE FRANCIS RAISES HAND"


[18-Jan-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Why does anyone think any of this is important


[18-Jan-20 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pope is still seen as god's avatar to the ultra religious catholics, which is a fair chunk of africa and south america


[18-Jan-20 07:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno, folk in South America seem fit to burn down Catholic Churches when it comes to an uprising so it's not a majority, or a very large one. Just what it looks like when all is well.


[18-Jan-20 07:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also yes, let's abolish the monarchy I too am tired of the breeding cult.


[18-Jan-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jan-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
RIP Heather Heyer


[18-Jan-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit/brexit-latest-news-expats-spain-vote-leave-regret-decision-106711

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Leave-backing expats in Spain express regret as Brexit looms
'I know it might be selfish but I think on reflection now we'd probably vote, if we had a referendum, the other way now'
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[18-Jan-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
> “He told the journalist the main factor in his change of heart was the loss of "freedom of movement in Europe, for the proper Europeans".”


[18-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"the proper europeans"


[18-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
get fucked


[18-Jan-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
They have to be hurting the _right_ people, you know


[18-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[18-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
oh god


[18-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
they already arrested 3 neo-nazis who wanted to stir up gun violence at the protest


[18-Jan-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
6


[18-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/fbi-arrests-three-suspected-neo-nazis-ahead-of-virginia-gun-rally-source-idUSKBN1ZF2B3

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Alleged neo-Nazis caught with assault rifle charged ahead of Virgi...
Three suspected members of a neo-Nazi group appeared in a Maryland court on Thur...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200116&t=2&i=1477340989&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0F1OE


[18-Jan-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they arrested 6 of them


[18-Jan-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177

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FBI arrests three more members of 'The Base'
Six suspected white supremacists have been arrested in what appeared to be a co-ordinated operation.
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[18-Jan-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
idunno maybe if the FBI is arresting people they have a fucking reason on the affidavit


[18-Jan-20 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dios mio...la creatura


[18-Jan-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if more will be pulled from the wood work


[18-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
``` idunno maybe if the FBI is arresting people they have a fucking reason on the affidavit```


[18-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a pretty dangerous thing to believe tbh.


[18-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
if FSB is arresting people they have a reason for that as well.


[18-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Treascair#7785
It's almost as if it's noted on the paperwork and it's made clear reference to in the article... *oh wait*


[18-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
oh sure it is. Paperwork is always in order.


[18-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a rather different recent historical context between the FSB and the FBI


[18-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know these guys. They might be guilty. Them being arrested by police of any kind doesn't make them so though.


[18-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FBI has very recently come under intense scrutiny for not taking any action on right wing extremists due to fears of stoking political tensions


[18-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Treascair#7785
I mean, if you're just going to ignore stated evidence, then I can't do anything for you.


[18-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is unlikely they are doing this now without very good reasons.


[18-Jan-20 09:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb0ekuf-Yzo

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The Police Admit They Knew
The police officers who failed to tackle the Muslim grooming gang scandals are still in their jobs, overseeing the rape of English girls. 

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[18-Jan-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the shit I just flushed down the toilet knows more about politics than akkad


[18-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, this is oooold news


[18-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
like 3-4 months old


[18-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
this is something that's been going on for decades


[18-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Nebbie, okay, fair enough.


[18-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yes and he's talking about how still nothing is being done to correct the problem.


[18-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
and it turns out that there's more white child sexual abusers than the "islamic rape gangs" I know he's gonna angle for


[18-Jan-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the white child sex abusers tend to get more protection from the law


[18-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't a race thing that conservatives want to make it out to be, it's systemic


[18-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
watch the video


[18-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the police were relucant to do much in fear of backlash


[18-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
no, I already know what he's going to say because it gets repeated ad nauseum, they only care about the muslim grooming gangs, not the fact that there's more whites doing the same thing on an individual basis


[18-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the fact the gangs exist in the first place is a problem


[18-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile white rape gangs were like, protected for 30 years


[18-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what white rape gangs?


[18-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why should I tell you a second time?


[18-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You apparently ignored the source the last time I linked it.


[18-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
which source?


[18-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you sent me several


[18-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/17/westminster-child-abuse-paedophile-ring-failure

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The Westminster child abuse ‘coverup’: how much did MPs know?
Claims that the establishment covered up a paedophile ring at the heart of Westminster are finally being investigated, decades after rumours first surfaced. Michael White, who was a parliamentary reporter at the time, asks veteran politicians why no one wanted to believe the ...
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[18-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
psker doesn't fukking read


[18-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
White people were raping kids for literally decades


[18-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
with a gov't coverup


[18-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
but oh no


[18-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
there were like, a few small rape gangs with PAKISTANIS recently that actually went to jail!


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
gangs that ranged to 80+ members isn't small


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
See here's the thing


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
they made up the minority of convictions in terms of people


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
churches can count as rape gangs if they cover it up enough


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority of convictions were of white people


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it doesn't matter of the gangs or islamic or white or whatever. the problem is. these groups are being allowed to do this and the police are doing little about it and allowing it to continue.


[18-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's the core problem


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The white child molester convictions, most of them done on an individual basis outnumbered all the "asian" child molesters


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're clearly just being racist.


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
X problem is being done


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
the majority of people convicted for it are white


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but GUYS A MINORITY WHO DID IT WERE BROWN


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
AND THE BROWN ONES DID IT TOGETHER


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet whenever presented with a chance to do something about the white rape gangs, they take the pay off and leave it alone


[18-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
SO THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEEEEEM


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no? what does this have to do with race other than the fact it seems the police don't want to go hard on the these gangs because of fears of political correctness.


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
What it has to do with race is you don't seem to think it's an issue that white rape gangs went unpunished for decades


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
or that there's a ton of lone wolf child molesters, who are white


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont fear political correctness, they fear lobbyists and an end to their money funneling


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and that excuses this?


[18-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
but suddenly there are these smaller-in-number gangs


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
who happen to be brown


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you explode


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it you only care when brown people do it?


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Answer the question.


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so you are say because group x did it and got away with for years. that excuses group y to do so as well?


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I never said it excuses it


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I asked why it's suddenly a problem now that brown people might be doing it


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well group y isnt loaded with cash


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it seems you are though


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
in smaller numbers


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you only care NOW?


[18-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
80+ members isn't small


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
But those 80+ are literally outnumbered by the lone wolves


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s small by comparison


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you only care now?


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what kind of question is that?


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i've always cared


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's why this is a problem


[18-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't ever talk about child molestation when it's white people that are the problem


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're silent every time we talk about Epstein


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if the gangs exist then it needs to be dealt with


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you don't seem to know the history with the UK and child rape gangs


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
how there've been massive gov't coverups.


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no? i've talked here and elsewhere about epstein before


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
how there've been massive gov't coverups.


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
But suddenly, Akkad tells you that there are ARAB RAPE GANGS


[18-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the torches are lit


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you say these gangs are a bigger problem


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That their organized nature demands special attention


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe because they are a organize gang?


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so was epstein...


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
operating in a first world country


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
brown people in a first world country


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
bringing ideas like working together and making it easier to get caught committing crimes


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
litterally epstein


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
people are supposed to act alone!


[18-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
wrong. a rape gang in a first world country


[18-Jan-20 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look it;s epstein


[18-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh look, it's what Thatcher's gov't swept under the rug


[18-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's about image with you


[18-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
you just want white countries to look like shining exemplars


[18-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well guess what?


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
White people rape kids like nobody's business when they get money


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rape gangs are part of UK culture


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that, they're expected to be rich


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prince Andrew getting some kiddy ass for big money


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and what about Tony Blair goverment or the brown goverment sweeping this under the rug too?


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
one does not excuse the other


[18-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is sweeping these gangs under the rug


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the fukking statistics we got


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
are from CONVICTIONS


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are less white rape gangs but they are much larger in comparison because it;s mostly rich elite


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but they are. the police are doing little in the uk to stop these gangs


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You CANNOT draw a conclusion about how much the gangs are ignored by conviction numbers.


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally invalid.


[18-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need numbers that show there are people *not* being convicted to talk about things being swept under.


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And right now the main info we hav


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
is that there was a huge rape gang of white people that Thatcher etc. covered up


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you have testimony of past victims to corroborate the fact that the police are not doing there job.


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
we do not hav evidence of these new rape gangs being swept under the rug


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, we do hav evidence of Prince Andrew...


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you keep deflecting nebbie.


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Circumstantial evidence, but it's something.


[18-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Deflecting from what?


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav no fukking evidence.


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your opinion is WHITE COUNTRY NO SHOULD HAV ORGANIZED RAPERS


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
blaming thatcher for a gang operating in the here and now


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no a first world country. doesn't have to be white


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is we hav actual conviction numbers as the only thing saying the gangs are a major problem


[18-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
why do you make it about race all the time nebbie


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if this was going on in hong kong it would be a big problem too.


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
But those very same numbers *can't* tell us about how well police are going at them.


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only that they've gone at them.


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right, because Hong Kong was a white colony.


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wouldn't be a problem if this went on in the Phillippines.


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie. why do you make it about race?


[18-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which was occupied, but never properly colonized.


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's pretty fukking obvious that you want it to be.


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no.


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you seem to make it about that


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
please stop


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brown people in gangs = suddenly huge, huge problem even if no evidence it is.


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
PROVIDE YOUR EVIDENCE


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
gangs are gangs


[18-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know what, fukk it.


[18-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't have time to argue about this further. good day good sir.


[18-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You ALWAYS don't have time


[18-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
conveniently when you are actually pushed for fukking bakking up your claims.


[18-Jan-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a difference between the crips and the fucking italian mafia...


[18-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also I will be clear


[18-Jan-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which gangs we;re talking here changes a lot about the situation


[18-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
1) The evidence says that the minority of convictions are organized gang members


[18-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
2) This establishes nothing about them being more dangerous


[18-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
3) To then hyperfocus on those gangs would actually probably hurt things overall by reducing total convictions


[18-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to say gangs are a bigger problem, then you hav to show 2 things:


[18-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
1) That organized gangs cause more harm per person


[18-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
2) That this is greater to such a large extent, that a given change in proportion of spending time/effort on them reduces more harm as a result


[18-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is QUITE POSSIBLE that the current allocation of resources reduces harm optimally.


[18-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now note


[18-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is not the same as increasing resources overall, which is the main argument MPs are making


[18-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you increase resources overall, no duh you reduce harm


[18-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
(usually)


[18-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
but whether or not you increase resources overall, you hav to actually figure out how to apportion shit.


[18-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
it's dumb to disregard the whole problem in favor of going after a minorty of the problem, there should be no distinction between muslim or white to begin with


[18-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the classic racist move


[18-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You find a way the problem differs between races


[18-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you say the way the minorities do it is worse


[18-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
without establishing *why* it's worse.


[18-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you demand a vague "more enforcement" that really just means "target only the way minorities do it"


[18-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then if in some way it's found that actually, non-minorities did it the same, you just conveniently don't talk about that.


[18-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The assumption being that Boris' gov't will be nice and pro-white by doing just what Thatcher did.


[18-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gee, maybe if we wanted to stop child rape, we could like, find out who Prince Andrew was hanging around and uh, shut down the massive flow of bribe money that Epstein was clearly involved with and is likely ongoing.


[18-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But naaaaah


[18-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
we just gotta get local police to ARREST MORE BROWN PEOPLE


[18-Jan-20 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If we target brown people and ban drawn lolis then the child rape will stop you guys! there totes arent rich white folk rpaing kids!


[18-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
btw @Itsthinking, did you see this? <https://theintercept.com/2020/01/17/sanders-warren-vice-president-treasury-secretary/>


[18-Jan-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
> The presidential campaign of Sen. Bernie Sanders has researched the question of whether the same person can serve as both vice president and treasury secretary, according to three sources on the campaign. The person the Sanders campaign had in mind with the inquiry was Sen. Elizabeth Warren, his rival for the nomination and the bane of Wall Street over the last decade.
> 
> The answer the lawyers came back with was yes: There is nothing in the Constitution that bars the vice president from also serving as treasury secretary.


[18-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah it's interesting


[18-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
> Warren told some reporters, in an off-the-record meeting right after meeting with Sanders, that he told her a woman can't beat Trump. The media knew that story for over a year, and waited until right before Iowa to leak to themselves, then CNN publicly "made an assumption" that Warren's campaign was the source and had just leaked it. Not only did they smear Sanders by turning "A woman can't beat Trump in 2020 because he'll use sexist attacks" into "A woman can't be president", they smeared Warren by framing her for the attack and putting her into a position where she couldn't deny it because there were reporters who'd say she told them at the time. The successfully damaged both progressive candidates while starting a feud between supporters of both that will carry on past this election and hurt progressives going forward on other issues by making it harder to work together.


[18-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
a summary of something further down in the article as well


[18-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
CNN purposefully made a public assumption in order to attempt to damage the entire progressive movement


[18-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders Warren supporters unite, burn CNN


[18-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
the media needs to be regulated


[18-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making false statements as a reporter should lead to losing access.


[18-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, reporters should report under oath.


[18-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Interviews should be done with the interviewee under oath.


[18-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the guy from the Trump campaign who literally said he'd lie unless under oath?


[18-Jan-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fine, I'll take the oath and lie


[18-Jan-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't a damn court


[18-Jan-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say tho that you could be arrested later for that, and charged with something a bit lesser than perjury.


[18-Jan-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, imagine applying that to the SOTU address, Its


[18-Jan-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump says shit he knows is false under oath on live TV


[18-Jan-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't get *arrested*, but someone would hav to point it out


[18-Jan-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume 0% chance bernie or warren will get elected. anyone else?


[18-Jan-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
I don't hate them; just that US is too socialist-phobic


[18-Jan-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden I think is going to continue to make blunders and will lose support


[18-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the moment it's down to 3, Warren support will spike


[18-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any of the 3 could get the nomination


[18-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
but I think Biden is the least likely


[18-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's turned out a little too bad


[18-Jan-20 09:57 PM] ononim#8141

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[18-Jan-20 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
Was reminded about this one in other discord server so decided to repost it, since I stumbled upon it again


[18-Jan-20 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
CW: animal cruelity


[18-Jan-20 09:58 PM] ononim#8141
:dab:


[18-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article239359868.html


[18-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
> A Kansas City area radio station can broadcast Russian state-owned media programming, the type that U.S. intelligence called a “propaganda machine,” for six hours a day through a lease agreement struck by a local radio operator.
> 
> RM Broadcasting LLC, a Florida-based company that has agreements to broadcast the Russian state media program Radio Sputnik, reached a deal on Jan. 1 to lease air time through Alpine Broadcasting Corp. in Liberty. Alpine Broadcasting Corp. broadcasts on three frequencies in the Kansas City area: KCXL 1140 AM, 102.9 FM and 104.7 FM.
> 
> The lease agreement lets RM Broadcasting air its programming from 6 to 9 a.m. and 6 to 9 p.m. seven days a week. KCXL’s website, which says that it’s the radio station that will “tell you the things that the liberal media wont (sic) tell you,” lists Radio Sputnik in its morning programming.


[18-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
now that's spicy


[18-Jan-20 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
selling broadcasting time to a russian propaganda network to own the libs


[18-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
```Making false statements as a reporter should lead to losing access.```


[18-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
kinda same as slander. It's exceptionally hard to prove a malicious lie vs an unitentional one.


[18-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another propaganda machine blasting all over america right now is the chinese owned epoch times, which throws up misleading ads before youtube videos


[18-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know this because they were incessantly spammed before each hvac training vid we watched in class


[18-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
capitalism, baby.


[18-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Chilling effect on speech


[18-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People would not speak freely


[18-Jan-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people would still speak freely, they would just get called out more


[18-Jan-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had something keeping news from doing this a long time ago but it got repealed


[18-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
I don't see what's wrong with a basic "think before you speak" check on speech


[18-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
you shouldn't be able to go full on monkey-on-typewriter like trump does


[18-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's chilling.


[18-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you absolutely know it is false with 100% certainty you should be able to speak


[18-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
speech for its own sake isn't something that I feel needs to be encouraged


[18-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolutely is


[18-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't go on news shows and say shit you know is false


[18-Jan-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s just as chilling that CNN can wait for the right moment and throw a he said she said article up to drive a wedge in 2 presidential candidates


[18-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't pass yourself off as a reporter and say shit you know is false.


[18-Jan-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a reporters job isnt to lie to their audience to make a political advantage for their employer, it should be to report the news on an accurate basis so that the public knows what;s going on


[18-Jan-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
CNN should be barred from ever hosting another presidential debate for the 2020 election if this is how they're going to act


[18-Jan-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Knowing and not being sure are two different things


[18-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People shouldn't have to be absolutely sure of the truth to publish it


[18-Jan-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should absolutely be sure in a situation like this


[18-Jan-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
they were 90% sure it wasn't what bernie said, but went along with it anyway


[18-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is tantamount to political sabotage


[18-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He only benefits from the message he sends people


[18-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The DNC strategist is right, he is the Democratic Trump


[18-Jan-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That should be embraced, however.


[18-Jan-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not the point though. They literally twisted his words, and used them to lay a trap for both bernie and warren


[18-Jan-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people hosting a presidential debate should not be allowed to do this


[18-Jan-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putting words in bernie's mouth is not freedom of speech


[18-Jan-20 10:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't beat CNN how can you beat China


[18-Jan-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china isnt hosting presidential debates


[18-Jan-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and cnn isnt china


[18-Jan-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This isnt a foreign leaders convention, this is a presidential debate held by a news channel


[18-Jan-20 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't fight a news channel twisting words doubt you can do international politics


[18-Jan-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you;re moving goal posts now


[18-Jan-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt about foreign policy


[18-Jan-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-woman-fired-bank-after-giving-struggling-man-money

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[18-Jan-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s about sabotage happening in our own nation where it should not at all be happening


[18-Jan-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cnn shouldnt be a test of strength for dealing with china


[18-Jan-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See the thing is that you've got to make your own story


[18-Jan-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s like saying  if you cant win in a school debate club, then you cant beat putin at chess


[18-Jan-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make yourself the center of the attention and not the spin


[18-Jan-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If he falls for a trap that's his problem.


[18-Jan-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotcha journalism is just good journalism.


[18-Jan-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no it really isnt, it;s piss poor sabotage strategy mixed with corporate bias


[18-Jan-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you have to put words in people;s mouths to win, then you were already losing


[18-Jan-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was entirely to give biden an edge by driving a wedge between the progressives


[18-Jan-20 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives aren't liberals, ie mealy-mouthed and trying to make friends


[18-Jan-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It doesn't work.


[18-Jan-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives hate liberals like conservatives hate liberals and progressives


[18-Jan-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still not the point


[18-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is hurt by the dirty tricks


[18-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let the children speak mindlessly, it hurts only them


[18-Jan-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
CNN drove warren into a corner she couldnt talk her way out of and bernie had words put in his mouth. The entire point of dirty tricks is to hurt people


[18-Jan-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This was an attempt to hurt bernie's credibility, while forcing warren to distance herself from him


[18-Jan-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
"During this review it was determined Ms. James did not use the available solutions to remedy the customer’s situation and instead put herself and the bank at risk with her actions."


[18-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
In other words, it's dangerous to ever respond to people in need by meeting them.


[18-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
WHAT IF THE POOR PERSON IS ACTUALLY A SHARK IN DISGUISE etc.


[18-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People tend to talk about the homeless like they're birds


[18-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the poor


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you give him money he'll just keep coming back"


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
or like survival of the fittest


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The implication being


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you don't giv him money he'll die somewhere


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and thus no longer be a problem


[18-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthus.


[18-Jan-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthusian thinking has been repeatedly proven wrong with actual evidence


[18-Jan-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuut


[18-Jan-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's convenient for the wealthy to believe it.


[18-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause to believe otherwise would demand them spend money on the poor and society in general


[18-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
and would indicate that their wealth isn't actually deserved.


[18-Jan-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
sitting in an air cond room is hard ok


[18-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear here


[18-Jan-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthusian thinking is "the poor are the result of laziness, and if you giv them things, they continue to drag down society; thus, it's best to deprive them of resources so they die off and the better people among them who can actually work hard survive and society is improved"


[18-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Under this logic, the way to fix the poor is to task them with a road to build. Every mile completed, they earn a meal, etc.


[18-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Half of them starve to death working on a road to nowhere? Good, they deserved it!


[18-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Famine comes? Giving out food isn't what's needed, anyone that can pull up their own bootstraps will get food somehow! Just let them starve!


[18-Jan-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The poor hav too many kids? Well then cut all programs that provide food for kids! They'll starve down to a healthy population amount!


[18-Jan-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally this is exactly opposite how people actually work, it's completely wrong.


[18-Jan-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both factually and morally.


[18-Jan-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Depriving people of resources makes them less able to get out of a bad situation and results in them having more kids to compensate for the higher deaths.


[18-Jan-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making people do menial labor all day for scraps just utterly destroys their ability to be productive along with their will to liv.


[18-Jan-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Malthusian thinking tho is highly beneficial if you are wealthy and intend to exploit the poor for profit.


[18-Jan-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was especially good if you wanted to justify enslaving the Irish.


[18-Jan-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s especially great to wash your hands of blame when their one food resource is wiped out in a fungal plague


[18-Jan-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, the Malthusian thinker sees this is an opportunity!


[18-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Simply raise the bread prices, ban American corn, and watch those lazy potato farmers who don't need to work as many times a year to get the same amount of food starve.


[18-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's that? Poor people starve in front of shops full of bread nobody can afford?


[18-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN!


[18-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them they can win some bread if they build roads to...nowhere!


[18-Jan-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Build buildings where they can work and get paid in porridge!


[18-Jan-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
People are still dying? MUST STILL BE MORE LAZY GITS TO DUN DIE


[18-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's that? Too many are dying, and armed rebellions are sprouting up? Okay just ship them elsewhere, they can't rise up while on a ship!


[18-Jan-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We took their cattle? Nonsense! we took what we earned, that;s all!


[18-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Half will die on the way, the rest are no longer a problem in the same area!


[18-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh what's that, some still own enuff land to farm off of? Just take it from 'em!


[18-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they're REAL HARD WORKERS they can scrounge up the money to afford renting the home they used to own plus food they can no longer grow!


[18-Jan-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"A little girl is dying in the hospital because she can't afford the life saving surgery? Everyone has to die sometime! it shouldn't be the problem of we who earned our money"


[18-Jan-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^literally the argument my hvac teacher gave when discussing healthcare


[18-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did this hypothetical little girl die from legionnaires or an cooling unit falling on her or something?


[18-Jan-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[18-Jan-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, maybe, there wasnt a specified cause


[18-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
But TSP, the money to save her could've gone to buying a new cooling unit.


[18-Jan-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that rich people could enjoy cooler air free of poor little girls.


[18-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
```CNN should be barred from ever hosting another presidential debate for the 2020 election if this is how they're going to act```


[18-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the correct course of action.


[18-Jan-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
trying to apply restrictions on what could be said... Yeah, common sense dictates there have to be at least some boundries.


[18-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
US law, and indeed law in general, is almost entirely divorsed from common sense.


[18-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
After all, poor little girls hav IKKY GERMS, why not just incinerate them and their belongings?


[18-Jan-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the host of the debate should not be a debate opponent themselves


[18-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know how the restrictions could be implemented, and then enforced, and then shielded from being abused.


[18-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
true.


[18-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
that's absolutely true Kobold. And that's something that COULD indeed be regulated without a chain reaction.


[18-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
but more broadly... Well, maybe a smarter being than me would figure it out.


[18-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.podshare.com/

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Live anywhere, meet people, travel & explore, save for a home, become a community. Experience the PodShare housing network.
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[18-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[18-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[18-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
1200 a month for a bunkbed in a warehouse


[18-Jan-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[18-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can there at least be a curtain


[18-Jan-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
curtains cost $200 extra a month and raises it to a penthouse status

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[18-Jan-20 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
what kind of degenerate lays down in their bed wearing shoes


[18-Jan-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the kind who doesnt want them to be stolen and pawned for cash?


[18-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
basicly yeah, in conditions like these it's a concern.


[18-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Silicon Valley did this btw


[18-Jan-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course it was silicone valley


[18-Jan-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cant have people with real homes!


[18-Jan-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Techbro billionaires get the real homes


[18-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but those are gods


[18-Jan-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they lower themselves to the standards of us puny mortals, then they;ve failed


[18-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
certainly by the standard of their peers.


[18-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
also


[18-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
```"A little girl is dying in the hospital because she can't afford the life saving surgery? Everyone has to die sometime! it shouldn't be the problem of we who earned our money"```


[18-Jan-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
if it was sold to me this way, I'd say, absolutely. Let her die and save her the misery of going through this again and again later in life.


[19-Jan-20 12:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  The Facebook Company will last forever change my mind.


[19-Jan-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast till they decide they are their own country and try to go to war with america


[19-Jan-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
country of 35,000 90% homogeneous white straight males


[19-Jan-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and one android


[19-Jan-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/youre-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-inside-trumps-stunning-tirade-against-generals/2020/01/16/d6dbb8a6-387e-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html?outputType=amp


[19-Jan-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There is no more sacred room for military officers than 2E924 of the Pentagon, a windowless and secure vault where the Joint Chiefs of Staff meet regularly to wrestle with classified matters. Its more common name is “the Tank.” The Tank resembles a small corporate boardroom, with a gleaming golden oak table, leather swivel armchairs and other mid-century stylings. Inside its walls, flag officers observe a reverence and decorum for the wrenching decisions that have been made there.


[19-Jan-20 12:35 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds like a place where old white men hangout to do completely non-gay things


[19-Jan-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478821-trump-at-pentagon-in-2017-youre-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies

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Trump called top military brass 'a bunch of dopes and babies' in 2...
President Trump lashed out at top military brass in a contentious Pentagon meeting in 2017, slamming them as “dopes” and “babies,” according to an excerpt of a forthcoming book.
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[19-Jan-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there we go, a non paywall article


[19-Jan-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/17/797355136/amtrak-asks-two-people-in-wheelchairs-to-pay-25-000-for-a-ride


[19-Jan-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/17/797355136/amtrak-asks-two-people-in-wheelchairs-to-pay-25-000-for-a-ride

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Amtrak Asks 2 People Who Use Wheelchairs To Pay $25,000 For A Ride
It usually costs $16 to take Amtrak from Chicago to Bloomington, Ill. The company defended the $25,000 cost for the extra wheelchair users, saying it reflects a new policy.
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[19-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnn1/


[19-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Watching CNN, it's amazing how much they hate Sanders


[19-Jan-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really is.


[19-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow


[19-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The instant the guy brings up that Warren could have brought this up a year ago and didn't want to then, so why now


[19-Jan-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Immediately interrupted and taken to ads


[19-Jan-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone mentioned common sense! quick play the aspca ad!


[19-Jan-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"the most trusted source in news"


[19-Jan-20 12:55 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1218674016942219265?s=21

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A massive 200 Billion Dollar Sea Wall, built around New York to protect it from rare storms, is a costly, foolish & environmentally unfriendly idea that, when needed, probably won’t work anyway. It will also look terrible. Sorry, you’ll just have to get your mops & buc...
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[19-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/478930-a-nation-unsettled-and-on-the-brink

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A nation unsettled and on the brink
If we allow ourselves to become increasingly divided, the foundation on which our democracy is built could falter and fail.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/polarization.jpg


[19-Jan-20 12:56 AM] illumnious#7938
So where the money came from?


[19-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another Boomer that doesn't get it.


[19-Jan-20 12:56 AM] illumnious#7938
Okay boomer


[19-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People _want_ to be scream and be mad


[19-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eat a shit sandwich just to breathe in the face of your enemies


[19-Jan-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm always mad


[19-Jan-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my experience theyld rather feed shit sandwiches to the poor and tell them to just stop being poor


[19-Jan-20 01:05 AM] illumnious#7938
Pissed


[19-Jan-20 01:13 AM] jlun2#8758
does anyone here think CNN and others will successfully tank Warren and Sander's campaigns or nah


[19-Jan-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're corporations


[19-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a chance, but Biden can sure do damage in his senile fukkitude.


[19-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They down't want either of them


[19-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I fully expect Biden to say that Warren should "stay in the kitchen"


[19-Jan-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, he'll just say something about her "motherly instincts" or the like


[19-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
In his senility, he clearly is having trouble with control of what he says.


[19-Jan-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
we want sanders

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[19-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're too young to know what's good for you, sweetie; keeping the economy is what's best for you in the long run :^)


[19-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@Teaspoon, no u


[19-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
kys _bot_


[19-Jan-20 01:45 AM] illumnious#7938
lol


[19-Jan-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon ok boomer :^)


[19-Jan-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't care, voting sanders anyway


[19-Jan-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Gonna cry, gonna piss your pants maybe? Maybe shit and cum? Just like those bankers on Wall Street? The top 1% is stealing all the piss and shit and cum from hard working middle class Americans!"- Bernie Sanders, January 2020 speech to plumber's union

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[19-Jan-20 04:42 AM] Sev3617#4685
@illumnious heeeey I know that guy in ur pic


[19-Jan-20 04:42 AM] Sev3617#4685
Megamind


[19-Jan-20 04:42 AM] Sev3617#4685
Best film


[19-Jan-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
I love that film but shall we talk in #general-discussion about it


[19-Jan-20 05:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1218697697512820736?s=21

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....BUT THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
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[19-Jan-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
BUT THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE


[19-Jan-20 06:11 AM] illumnious#7938
In all caps


[19-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/blurring-trump-other-words-women-s-march-photo-was-mistake-n1118426

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Blurring 'Trump,' other words in Women's March photo was mistake, ...
The Archives altered a photo of the 2017 Women’s March, blurring signs critical of President Trump or with words that referenced women’s anatomy.
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[19-Jan-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Getting some real Ministry of Truth vibes...


[19-Jan-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All this means is a super progressive administration that is hyper aggressive about this sort of stuff


[19-Jan-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe we'll finally get a SCOTUS that is responsible like every other lawyer in the US is


[19-Jan-20 08:06 AM] Opponent#3498
```completely non-gay things```


[19-Jan-20 08:06 AM] Opponent#3498
**disappointingly** non-gay things.


[19-Jan-20 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Jan-20 12:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden off his meds


[19-Jan-20 02:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ElineMuijres/status/1218081796165898241

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Everyone that is like: 
“Oh nice the Cyberpunk devs have more time to make a better game without crunch”

Let this be absolutely clear:

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[19-Jan-20 02:11 PM] ononim#8141
Yep, it's 🏴‍☠️ time


[19-Jan-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
is anyone really suprised?


[19-Jan-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
set up unrealistic deadlines.


[19-Jan-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
fail said deadlines.


[19-Jan-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
mandate more overtime.


[19-Jan-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure that's development cycle for every single major IT product atm.


[19-Jan-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
especially every AAA-ish title out there.


[19-Jan-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-demands-apology-sanders-over-doctored-video-social-security-n1118481

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The Vermont senator's campaign has sought to cast Sanders as an unflinching defender of the program, contrasting his position with the former vice president's.
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[19-Jan-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Jan-20 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
that happiness lifehack add was beautiful


[19-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Jan-20 05:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> 1966
> Communist utopia
How the hell did that show survive that time period? Wasn't that when anything considered "commie" was a death sentence to your career?


[19-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
The original series the crew still got paid. They mention credits several times


[19-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
It wasn't until star trek next gen when it was a money free society


[19-Jan-20 05:18 PM] jlun2#8758
I don't think you could ever kill off money; like if someone asks for something like a death star sized observatory to detect gravitons, how would resources be managed to make it exist without some sort of payment system?


[19-Jan-20 05:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Also the red scare in Hollywood was the 1950s


[19-Jan-20 05:18 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[19-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
credits were primarily used by the other species, I remember there being a clip from an episode where a human kid was begging an alien kid for some credits so he could gamble, and the alien kid taunted him with how humans don't use credits


[19-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
@Sunnyside, so no, humans specifically didn't use money


[19-Jan-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe not 'money'-money, but moneyless society inevitably stumbles upon scale, so there likely would be something.


[19-Jan-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well part of their moneyless thing was that they now had replicators, so they didnt need money to purchase food anymore


[19-Jan-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
food is easy


[19-Jan-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not really sure how housing works in that universe, they never really go in depth for that


[19-Jan-20 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
but building something bigger requires resource allocation, like yeah, housing for instance


[19-Jan-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was one thing i always wanted more depth in


[19-Jan-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how earth works for normal people who arent high ranking politicians


[19-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
3d printed houses


[19-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
3d printed death star observatories


[19-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
3d printed artificial black holes


[19-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If you can generate food, then no problem for anything else


[19-Jan-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3d printed houses might actually be a plausible explanation. we have that technology now and it could make housing in the future much much much cheaper in the long run


[19-Jan-20 05:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  I can see China doing that, but never USA due to lobbying


[19-Jan-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that;s where the french revolution coems in


[19-Jan-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
viva la working class


[19-Jan-20 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But we are not in France!


[19-Jan-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but we can be!


[19-Jan-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, larger replicators can be used to create hoiusing parts for quick assembly


[19-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few companies are already doing this, lobbyists be damned


[19-Jan-20 05:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did this work for people after revolution in russia at beginning of 20th century?


[19-Jan-20 05:37 PM] jlun2#8758
no lol


[19-Jan-20 05:37 PM] jlun2#8758
they got stalin'd


[19-Jan-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was great until lennin died


[19-Jan-20 05:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the problem was that workers had no management skills.


[19-Jan-20 05:38 PM] jlun2#8758
weren't most ppl poor and illiterate in 19th century


[19-Jan-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then stalin who was not at all a communist took over and started hoarding resources and killing people to keep people from challenging his reign


[19-Jan-20 05:38 PM] jlun2#8758
and died in their 30s


[19-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that was from deep space nine Crow


[19-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
not the original series


[19-Jan-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lennin had a semi long term plan that communism would be slowly modified over the course of several decades to keep it going


[19-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
deep space nine is set during the star trek next gen era


[19-Jan-20 05:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
where the federate dropped money from their soceity


[19-Jan-20 05:40 PM] jlun2#8758
free giant space telescopes for every institution!


[19-Jan-20 05:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the Ferengi were never part of the federation and had a money based economy based on latnum


[19-Jan-20 05:41 PM] jlun2#8758
and maybe a trillion PHD students staring at every single star in the galaxy


[19-Jan-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love how everyone brings up venezuela as a bad example of socialism, when the problem for venezuela was a corrupt government siphoning money and printing it


[19-Jan-20 05:41 PM] Opponent#3498
and also not really a socialism


[19-Jan-20 05:41 PM] Opponent#3498
3/4 eco still private or smth


[19-Jan-20 05:42 PM] jlun2#8758
and too reliant on oil based activities


[19-Jan-20 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah that too is a big one.


[19-Jan-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[19-Jan-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile our farming industry is about to enter depression levels of pricing where no one can afford a single fucking apple because mansanto wanted $20 for it


[19-Jan-20 05:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  All I'm thinking right now is people will let that happen because it's a physical law that young people don't vote, they like, share, and subscribe.


[19-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well technically that's true anyone under 18 cannot vote


[19-Jan-20 05:48 PM] jlun2#8758
meant like people sub 65 ish


[19-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we let teenagers vote we would probably get mroe turn out


[19-Jan-20 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
no lol, but feel free to try to convince your local politicians to do that


[19-Jan-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
voter suppression is widespread


[19-Jan-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of younger people arent voting because their jobs demand thye be there on voting days, and they keep purging voter registries


[19-Jan-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
some people don't vote because they don't want to legitimize a system they think is unfair


[19-Jan-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I think this is a really stupid reason to not vote


[19-Jan-20 05:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[19-Jan-20 05:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think this has been here before, but...yeah


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I voted twice now; was always the youngest person there


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] jlun2#8758
and it was in a school gym too


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
```some people don't vote because they don't want to legitimize a system they think is unfair```


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
every system in our lifetime will be unfair


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
embrace it and disregard it going forward


[19-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not a reason not to try and push for incremental changes


[19-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck the foundation with a goddamned wrecking ball!


[19-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
god I wish we could


[19-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vote liek your life depends on it!


[19-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which it does...


[19-Jan-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  I did! I upvoted a reddit and facebook post linking to an article that Trump should be impeached!


[19-Jan-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
also felt like a boomer typing that lol


[19-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 2016 election also did some damage to the voter base b having the dnc conspiring against them like a board of villains


[19-Jan-20 05:55 PM] jlun2#8758
(I know that's not the only cause of young ppl not voting btw)


[19-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was disturbing to watch


[19-Jan-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also made great strides to divide bernie supporters and hillary supporters to the point where violent mobs were waiting outside rallies...


[19-Jan-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck dnc


[19-Jan-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the goddamned fuck


[19-Jan-20 05:59 PM] jlun2#8758
they'll prob do it again, and trump rule will get another 4 years


[19-Jan-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it was mostly older folk attacking eachother violently


[19-Jan-20 06:00 PM] jlun2#8758
can't wait for me to be like that in 4 decades inevitably


[19-Jan-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well part of it is a lot of older folk are scared and confused because they didnt grow up with this reality, they grew up in a world where hard work was the key to success and promotions actually existed, and you could afford a house at 20


[19-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and college debt was payable


[19-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we didnt grow up in that reality so we have less denial to fuck up our judgements


[19-Jan-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now hard successful works comes from complicated specialized college level careers, and we cant afford medical coverage


[19-Jan-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
:squintyjack:


[19-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and while hard work still works to a point it doesnt get you as far as it used to and it takes decades to reach a single prmotion because companies woudlr ather keep you where you are

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[19-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry, i deleted it to reword it better


[19-Jan-20 06:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
it is now "work smarter, not harder"


[19-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then when you try to work smarter, the company yells at you


[19-Jan-20 06:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is rather looking at alternative income in addition to main income.


[19-Jan-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, companies really hate that people are doing that now because it means less control over their employees. especially walmart who makes it;s hours sporadic as fuck just to prevent that shit


[19-Jan-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of older people also run on the notion that loyalty to a company comes with rewards, which at one point was true. now a days it isnt as effective


[19-Jan-20 06:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not another part-time job, but rather investements and all that jazz.


[19-Jan-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
7/11 was a part time job


[19-Jan-20 06:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
what happened back then?


[19-Jan-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
7/11 happened


[19-Jan-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Jan-20 06:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
oh. I thought another large-scale event


[19-Jan-20 06:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  kinda hard to get promoted into a company if you're an "independent contractor" instead of working at the company now.


[19-Jan-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that shit happened too


[19-Jan-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably threw a lot of long time employees off when it did


[19-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you have that thing, where people only get promoted of you are boss' relative?


[19-Jan-20 06:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1218952496388956162?s=21

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I will be going to Austin, Texas. Leaving soon. Always like (love!) being in the Lone Star State. Speaking to our great Farmers. They hit “paydirt” with our incredible new Trade Deals: CHINA, JAPAN, MEXICO, CANADA, SOUTH KOREA, and many others!
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[19-Jan-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump, they didnt hit paydirt, they were *paid in dirt*


[19-Jan-20 06:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Is that what they are doing to get paid https://twitter.com/erinmperrine/status/1218693955837157376?s=21

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Today’s National Day of Action was a HUGE success on the road to re-election for President @realDonaldTrump!

🚨🚨 1,000,000 DOOR KNOCKED!! 🚨🚨

Thank you to every volunteer, especially Lilli in NH who knocked door 1 million, for all your hard work! 🇺🇸
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[19-Jan-20 06:58 PM] illumnious#7938
The fuck


[19-Jan-20 06:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> Trump, they didnt hit paydirt, they were paid in dirt
#BoomerPorn


[19-Jan-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Ok boomer


[19-Jan-20 07:03 PM] jlun2#8758
> By midcentury, the Boomer population is projected to dwindle to 16.6 million.
They will never go away in my life time


[19-Jan-20 07:19 PM] jlun2#8758
Will boomers ever suffer, or nah die in somewhat prosperity in comparison to the generations afterwards at the same age?


[19-Jan-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
as a generation they are already suffering the effects of what they've done


[19-Jan-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
but they'd eat a shit sandwich just to breathe on the millenials


[19-Jan-20 07:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And it will be "it's millenials' fault".


[19-Jan-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
>"what do you mean you can't pay rent and bills with $1000 a month? that's preposterous, just learn how to budget and stop wasting your money on luxuries"
>stops going out to eat and cuts every possible corner to stay afloat
>"Have you heard of this MONSTROSITY??? Millenials are KILLING the restaurant industry!!"


[19-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
no wage only spend


[19-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you end up with some people who decide that since they can never really save up anything meaningful if they DO cut corners, they should just spend


[19-Jan-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which boomers ALSO criticize as being a problem because they had plenty of savings while spending.


[19-Jan-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
You WASTED your money on STARBUCKS AND TACO BELL???


[19-Jan-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
- Boomer who would've spent twice as much accounting for inflation on frivolous products for their home, while spending the same amount accounting for inflation on restaurants, with money left over to put in the bank and save


[19-Jan-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/18/joe-biden-falsely-attacks-bernie-sanders-100811

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Biden charges Sanders camp ‘doctored video’ to attack him
Sanders has been sharply critical of the former vice president’s long-standing record of considering cuts to Social Security.
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[19-Jan-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
> CNN's hail mary to try to split the progressive vote didn't work, so now they're pulling this bullshit.


[19-Jan-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
We. want. sanders.


[19-Jan-20 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only place Biden should be going is a nursing home.


[19-Jan-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hunter-biden-testimony-impeachment-ted-cruz-says-democrats-are-terrified-2020-1 "Yes you;re honor, it;s true this man tried to spy on me illegally"

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Republicans ramp up calls for Hunter Biden to testify in impeachme...
Cruz has argued that if witnesses will be allowed in the upcoming Senate impeachment trial, a rule of reciprocity should be implemented.
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[19-Jan-20 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-china-phase-one-tariff-trade-deal-enforcement-mechanism-implode-2020-1

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Trump's trade deal with China looks designed to implode
Trump's trade deal has an enforcement mechanism, but whether the deal survives hangs on whether or not that mechanism is used in "good faith."
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[19-Jan-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-picked-impeachment-defense-team-based-on-tv-performance-report-2020-1

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Trump on Friday announced a legal team including long-time TV defender Alan Dershowitz, and former Clinton impeachment lawyer Kenneth Starr.
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[19-Jan-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
both epstein associates


[19-Jan-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by trump's logic the fact that the epstein trial was a highly covered thing for awhile means having his lawyers will make him look ten times as great on national tv despite the fact that it was sex offender trial thatturned into a murder mystery


[19-Jan-20 08:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://heavy.com/news/2020/01/joe-biden-corn-dog-stick/

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No, Joe Biden Didn’t Say He Eats the Stick in Corn Dogs
Joe Biden did not say in an interview that he eats the stick in corn dogs. But the interview does have another interesting quote from him that is real.
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[19-Jan-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that in debate?


[19-Jan-20 08:11 PM] Crow#5457
> But another part of the interview where a phone rang and Biden wasn’t sure what it was, well that part was real.
> 
> The part reads: “Number one, the next president of the United States, I think you’d all have to admit, is going to have to be able to do two things. [A PHONE PLACED BY A STAFFER TO RECORD THE INTERVIEW RINGS.] What the hell is that?”
> 
> The interviewer said: “You’re getting a call.” And Biden says, “Oh.”


[19-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
he's not senile enough to eat the stick in a corndog, but he's senile enough not to recognize a phone ringing


[19-Jan-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i took it as a joke about the too far left rhetoric he keeps spouting


[19-Jan-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
me in 4 decades or so


[19-Jan-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We have to stay in the firm center you guys! if we go too far left, we'll spook the owly investors and they won't want to come out for feedin' time no mo'!"


[19-Jan-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/01/19/richmond-gun-rally-is-a-virginia-cop-giving-4chans-pol-board-inside-info/

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[19-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair to Joe, I've heard a lot of really stupid phone ring tones


[19-Jan-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of my class mates has chruch bells as a ring tone which was confusing at first


[19-Jan-20 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've heard birds chirping, children's laughter, jet engines revving up, people clapping, and all sorts of random buzzes or excerpts from songs


[19-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One guy at work has the MGS "alerted!" sound


[19-Jan-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
❗


[19-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/16/pornhub-sued-class-action-deaf-demand-closed-captioning/

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Pornhub Sued by Deaf Man Over Lack of Closed-Captioning in Videos
Pornhub just got sued because it lacks closed captioning in videos, making it hard to watch for the deaf.
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[19-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[19-Jan-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
[moaning]


[19-Jan-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
[music plays]


[19-Jan-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
[untranslated japanese]


[19-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
[aggressive slapping]


[19-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmm


[19-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain reintroduced a shitload of grizzly bears in some of its northern mountains


[19-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But afaict they didn't reintroduce much of what they like to eat


[19-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I foresee farmers shooting and trapping the things after they find their sheep and goats mauled


[19-Jan-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
This reminds me of something within the last few days I meant to say but forgot, in regards to how people fear wolves rather than things that actually kill them.


[19-Jan-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never about people getting like, *eaten by* the animal.


[19-Jan-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was always about "this animal ate my sheep, fear it!" to justify purges of the creature involved.


[19-Jan-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying the animal would actually eat you, not just sheep, was just a way to divert the issue from a specific thing only affecting ranchers to something every single person would fear.


[19-Jan-20 09:47 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie more ppl die to cows than wolves apparently .


[19-Jan-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There are _a lot_ of cows


[19-Jan-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but wolves generally don't go out and kill people at random, either.


[19-Jan-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bears do it more despite being in smaller numbers.


[19-Jan-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
(because we're bigger than wolves but not bears)


[19-Jan-20 09:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
In my experience wolves mostly just murr at you


[19-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Ice Bear#7887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHC1FBEEN4

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VA state police drive over 100 miles to intimidate law biding citizens a head of lobby day
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[19-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
```Trump's trade deal has an enforcement mechanism, but whether the deal survives hangs on whether or not that mechanism is used in "good faith."```


[19-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
deal with China


[19-Jan-20 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
**GOOD FAITH** :derpchrys:


[19-Jan-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>demonrats


[19-Jan-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-rally/virginias-top-house-republican-warns-white-supremacist-garbage-to-stay-away-from-gun-rally-idUSKBN1ZH09W

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Virginia's top House Republican warns "white supremacist garbage" ...
Virginia's House Republican leader said on Saturday that white supremacists...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200119&t=2&i=1478329773&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0I00E


[19-Jan-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-electoral/u-s-supreme-court-takes-up-presidential-electoral-college-dispute-idUSKBN1ZG2EH

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U.S. Supreme Court takes up presidential Electoral College dispute
As the 2020 race heats up, the Supreme Court agreed on Friday to hear a dispute ...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200118&t=2&i=1478137893&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0G1OO


[19-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Linked previously


[19-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
States win: Good for interstate popular vote compact, completely rips apart the point of even having electors.


[19-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
States lose: Bad for compact, means electors can do whatever they want.


[19-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean they can do whatever


[19-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The question is whether states can punish them


[19-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which of course they should be able to do.


[19-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2016 was a fucking mess.


[19-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you get punished for doing something, you basically cannot do it.


[20-Jan-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458395827665371156/668592379900461077/Can_I_go_to_Walmart_without_repenting_-_Imgur.mp4

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[20-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
the answer is, no, you heretic.


[20-Jan-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fa7035de6d69e1a95304e56987027093

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No escape: Senators to be quiet, unplugged for Trump trial
WASHINGTON (AP) — No cellphones. No talking. No escape.  That's the reality during the Senate's impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, which will begin each day with a proclamation:...
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[20-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-09-24-8703120482-story,amp.html

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BIDEN ADMITS ERRORS, DROPS OUT
Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, whose campaign for president has been damaged by admissions of plagiarism and embellishing his academic record, on Wednesday withdrew from the race for the 1988 Democratic nomination, saying the ''exaggerated shadow'' of his mistakes had begun '...
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[20-Jan-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a moment i got very excited


[20-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gdi its


[20-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
>believing a Boomer would admit error


[20-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an entire generation devoted to hitting the gas harder when they hear they've run over a homeless person.


[20-Jan-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because to even consider that they could be wrong is defeat.


[20-Jan-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon https://youtu.be/pg0_a2_7a1c

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Vagosaur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0_a2_7a1c
Pulled a sneaky on ya
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pg0_a2_7a1c/hqdefault.jpg


[20-Jan-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Mike2020/status/1217254115132235776

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Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020)
https://twitter.com/Mike2020/status/1217254115132235776
Test your political knowledge:
SPOT THE MEATBALL THAT LOOKS LIKE MIKE.
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[20-Jan-20 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k

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halim alrah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPVkpWMH9k
Ideology & Politics: Towards An Accurate Model
Our popular models of politics and ideology are deeply inadequate. After outlining how these models are flawed, this video works towards an accurate model of our politics and ideology.

patreon: https://www.patreon.com/halimalrah
twitter: https://twitter.com/halimalrah
instra...
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[20-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomerang.


[20-Jan-20 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
I'll just leave this here


[20-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or in that square


[20-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
RBG


[20-Jan-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no magenta.


[20-Jan-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
fact-motivated


[20-Jan-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
emotion-motivated


[20-Jan-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
better labels


[20-Jan-20 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
You heard of the 2D political compass graph. But have you heard of the 3D political-compass cube?


[20-Jan-20 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
And now you have heard of that: have you heard of the infinite-D political compass Time Cube?


[20-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>limiting yourself to a cube


[20-Jan-20 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Implying time cube is limited


[20-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Ice Bear#7887
tesseract up nigga


[20-Jan-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/vtPgVAW.jpg

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MAGA logic
https://i.imgur.com/vtPgVAW.jpg


[20-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hah


[20-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/19/business/media/senate-impeachment-trial-media.html

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By Michael M. Grynbaum
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/19/business/media/senate-impeachment-trial-media.html
Even C-SPAN Is Piqued: Senate Puts Limits on Trial Coverage
The Senate will control the cameras during the impeachment trial, limiting what viewers see, and reporters will be confined to roped-off areas.
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[20-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Even sedate C-SPAN is aggrieved, calling on the Senate to allow its television crews to document the trial, instead of the government-controlled cameras that — as was the case during Bill Clinton’s trial 21 years ago — will limit what viewers see and hear inside the Senate chamber.


[20-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Emma_Dumain/status/1217865895109910529

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Emma Dumain (@Emma_Dumain)
https://twitter.com/Emma_Dumain/status/1217865895109910529
When you're talking to a senator and he wants to keep talking to you but the cops said you can't talk in the middle of the hallway so you have to step behind a rope in order to continue the conversation. This is how ludicrous these restrictions are.
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[20-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want to prevent the public from knowing just how corrupt Trump is.


[20-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/igd_news/status/1219013663752720385?s=21

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It's Going Down (@IGD_News)
https://twitter.com/igd_news/status/1219013663752720385?s=21
This fascist Telegram channel is encouraging white nationalists and neo-Nazis to spread misinformation and rumors among #2A movement. Encourages people to set off firecrackers in order to get #Virginia2A protesters on Monday to open fire. 

H/T @SalishBlackFlag
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[20-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell will win this fight but probably lose the war.


[20-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's ignoring how unpopular several GOP senators are.


[20-Jan-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1219119992899350528

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John Aravosis🇺🇸 (@aravosis)
https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1219119992899350528
NYT endorses Warren AND Klobuchar. And has some really unkind words for Sanders, comparing him to Trump. https://t.co/xJvBfUuJng
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[20-Jan-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you mean someone who won an election


[20-Jan-20 07:01 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Guys why presidents are usually ppl after their 40-50's


[20-Jan-20 07:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because 35 is the lowest cap


[20-Jan-20 07:04 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Who and why made that cap


[20-Jan-20 07:04 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Imagine if young person were a president


[20-Jan-20 07:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the founders of the constitution


[20-Jan-20 07:04 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats retarded tbh


[20-Jan-20 07:05 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Like ppl in their 35 are usually lost their connection to young ppl


[20-Jan-20 07:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair on theirend 35 was old age when they were in charge, i dont think they realized people would be 70 and running for president


[20-Jan-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
they made that cap because you needed to be a lot older to have the equivalent of a modern high school education


[20-Jan-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
back in the 1700's


[20-Jan-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
with the modern school system, you can get the same education before the age of 18 that it took people to get by their 30's


[20-Jan-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
well, it has the potential to do that


[20-Jan-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
it depends on if you live in a rich neighborhood or not


[20-Jan-20 07:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then...


[20-Jan-20 07:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when the founders wrote the constitution, they didn't foresee a lot of the circumstances we;re in today. as such there's no fail safes for some problems and what fail safes there are can be semi dealt with if the legislative branch becomes a pawn to the executive


[20-Jan-20 07:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
big corporations did not exist, and money laundering politicians were not as big a thing back then, sure you still had corrupt politicians but those weren't fueled by giant industries.


[20-Jan-20 07:20 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Corporations should be regulated and heavily taxed


[20-Jan-20 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really should


[20-Jan-20 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heavily regulated


[20-Jan-20 07:20 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Like its ridiculous that amazon paid zero taxes


[20-Jan-20 07:20 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
And some average mr.Smith have to pay em


[20-Jan-20 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why candidates like sanders are "divisive" it;s divisive because social democracy candidates like sanders woudl weaken corporate hold on washington


[20-Jan-20 07:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he won, there might be more candidates like him who would run for congress and then that poor, poor money train might derail in an explosion of regulations and suddenly corporations wouldnt get off scott free for tax evasion


[20-Jan-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Divisive" = "actually has policy ideas"


[20-Jan-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a blank canvas they can paint onto, not an actual candidate.


[20-Jan-20 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like biden who's policies are decideed by the highest bidder!


[20-Jan-20 07:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-explain-a-link-between-obesity-and-poverty-by-saying-that-fast-food-is-all-they-can-afford-Making-rice-and-beans-at-home-is-cheaper-and-healthier/answer/Peter-Kruger


[20-Jan-20 07:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is an excellent explanation


[20-Jan-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bit faster to talk about the *homeless* specifically for this problem.


[20-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're homeless, you need food that won't kill you, you're used to hot food, you hav food stamps that are not allowed to be used to buy hot food, California has a tax on hot foods (so if you use the 7-11 microwave before buying the food, you pay more).


[20-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav no oven, no microwave, and to even get one would require you to stop being homeless.


[20-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you buy a portable oven.


[20-Jan-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
One that uses fuel, in fact.


[20-Jan-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You now hav an expensive oven that uses expensive fuel that people are likely to steal from you.


[20-Jan-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So just by virtue of being homeless, the cost to heat up a hot pokket has risen possibly ten or even one hundred fold, and now you are much more likely to be robbed.


[20-Jan-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and it takes longer. And you're not allowed to do it on the street, where you liv.


[20-Jan-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And maybe you decide to go full hog and scrounge up the money to make your own food cart to sell food to eventually get a more permanent home, except that the city decided in the 80s that food carts need licenses and the number of licenses should never increase, in an effort to ~~get rid of those poor fukks daring to compete with rich restaurants~~ improve the local food scene.


[20-Jan-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and the city sells those licenses for $20 each, except that since there's so few of them, they're all bought by people whose entire job is to buy them to sell them for $2000 each.


[20-Jan-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, selling the license to another person might be illegal, but is the city really going to make sure the licenses aren't being sold?


[20-Jan-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, the license is a tool to prevent poor people from making money, so just looking the other way while its price rises dramatically, only to then turn around and strip it from the poor bastard who spent a year's savings on it, is the way to go.


[20-Jan-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the cheapest ways to liv homeless is to use a car, because it givs you full transportation and also a place to sleep. However, the big trouble with a car is that it's easy to break into, it's not very well insulated, and you're limited on where you can keep it.


[20-Jan-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also rather expensive to burn gasoline for power and heat.


[20-Jan-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and say you want to register to vote: Well, you can't do that without a mailing address. So that means either a permanent address or a PO Box. PO Boxes cost money.


[20-Jan-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, in most states, getting a document like a driver's license or passport that shows your identity requires you to first hav other things to prove your identity...such as mail addressed to you at your mailing address.


[20-Jan-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing you can use is a bank account in your name.


[20-Jan-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk getting either of those things as a homeless person. Your path to getting a valid driver's license essentially relies on a very narrow set of documents, like your birth certificate, which you likely won't hav on you anymore, so you need another copy, which costs money.


[20-Jan-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But wait, you need to liv in a vehicle...you can't drive without a license!


[20-Jan-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well...you can go a long time without one without people suspecting.


[20-Jan-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But good lukk getting reputable employment.


[20-Jan-20 08:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you get to the fun world of credit scores!


[20-Jan-20 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Credit scores, you need them for certain things, and if you've never taken out a loan or gone into massive debt, you won't hav one.


[20-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now see, you can get a credit card initially to get one, by buying things with it.


[20-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOWEVER


[20-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will be a shitty credit card with really high rates.


[20-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole system forces you to go into debt at some point, with the hopes you stay there.


[20-Jan-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more you drive down your credit score once you hav one, the higher the rates will be.


[20-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a rich person, who can easily get and pay off a loan doing like, anything, credit scores just go up, rates go down, loans become easier to pay off, the whole system rewards them.


[20-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
When I read more and more here, it makes USA sound like a shithole country.


[20-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and another common way the poor in particular get a start to credit scores is appliance or vehicle financing.


[20-Jan-20 08:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are a shithole cointry


[20-Jan-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, rather than buy something like a fridge or a car upfront, you pay in installments


[20-Jan-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
these come with interest, often much higher than inflation, so you're losing a ton of money doing it this way


[20-Jan-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you get a credit score which says that you were milked dry on a washing machine and now you're allowed to like...rent.


[20-Jan-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, no credit score means you need a cosigner to rent anywhere.


[20-Jan-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You literally need a second person to put their nekk on the line for your ability to pay the rent.


[20-Jan-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is a *great* place to liv if you're rich, because taxes are retardedly low and you can get away with anything and businesses provide whatever you need very cheaply.


[20-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a *terrible* place to liv if you're poor, because taxes are retardedly high and you can't get away with anything and businesses will nikkel and dime you.


[20-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yet USA has top notch ~~propaganda~~ marketing on international scene.


[20-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US' top selling point is it has a business for everything and a lot of rich people.


[20-Jan-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That attracts people.


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also because its military successfull destroyed anywhere south of it, and north is a frozen wasteland pretty much


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And worst place if you are middle class, because you are indebted with credits and shit.


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's like nowhere else nearby that's prosperous to absord the people fleeing all the places the US has made sure stay on fire forever.


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should mention i have no credit score which makes my mobility really far out of reach


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Europe were physically attached to the US, then the US military would be invading Italy and Germany every 30 years to keep them down


[20-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of you know


[20-Jan-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
how it rebuilt Western Europe after WWII


[20-Jan-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And sure, the US no longer *invades* places physically down south


[20-Jan-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just has the CIA incite rebellion like crazy


[20-Jan-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually guaranteed that in 10 years we'll be hearing about the totally illegal stuff the CIA did a few months ago with Bolivia.


[20-Jan-20 08:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and occasionally make "botched" arms sales to drug cartels with the excuse of trying totrack them


[20-Jan-20 08:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"woops, they removed the trackers, i;m sure thye wont overthrow local governments" *wink*


[20-Jan-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment South America has breathing room and countries start to stabilize one by one into actual first world powers, you can bet that the shit will hit the fan as the US population drops.


[20-Jan-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is only buoyed by immigrants.


[20-Jan-20 08:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, if i move countries my  non existant credit score doesnt follow me and i can actually start anew


[20-Jan-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing, if like, Brazil suddenly stopped having huge crime and a ton of corruption, then Americans would just flee to it.


[20-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada isn't a good place to flee because it has strict immigration controls (not rich? Not in the entertainment industry? Denied) and a cold climate.


[20-Jan-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, casual reminder that immigration controls basically **do not apply** if you bribe a country with a certain level of investment in its businesses.


[20-Jan-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many countries, particularly western ones, literally codify that if a person has invested X amount into its businesses that they are given a free ride on immigration.


[20-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And immigration controls are completely opposite the ideology of capitalism, they are a barrier to resources in the form of workers getting to where they are most needed, disrupting the free market.


[20-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
```California has a tax on hot foods (so if you use the 7-11 microwave before buying the food, you pay more).```


[20-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
wow


[20-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, hot food taxes are really shitty.


[20-Jan-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're supposedly intended to only hit restaurants, but in practice they are taxed if the consumer heats things themselves, the way they're implemented.


[20-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This massively disproportionately affects the poor.


[20-Jan-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, even if they were only applied to actual sit-down restaurants, it's still really to fukk with the poor.


[20-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is the poor can only use their food stamps and meager income to buy cold food in need of preparation, which as that Quora answer establishes, means very expensive investments for them.


[20-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, the poor NEED to buy hot food.


[20-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is that much of the food the poor actually buy isn't covered by food stamps, and in some states even has its cost directly boosted.


[20-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
In California specifically, they exempt food from sales tax UNLESS it's hot or eaten close to where it's sold.


[20-Jan-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause sales tax is regressive as fukk, and they akknowledge that you need to exempt food as the poor's main expense...except that like, this is all a trikk, cause the poor are for sure going to be eating hot food or eating it near where it's purchased.


[20-Jan-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that among the poor in the US, it's more common than with other social classes to consume food *while shopping*.


[20-Jan-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if that food is regular stuff on the shelf which is cold, you're going to be charged sales tax the way the law is written.


[20-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in actuality, the sales tax exemption on food spares the middle class while hurting the poor.


[20-Jan-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Because why hav a progressive tax when you can hav a recurvegressive tax?*


[20-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
By sparing the middle class, you get most voters to think it's a good thing, and remember, the middle class don't understand actual poverty by and large. They're content, they think the poor are doing fine.


[20-Jan-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile homeless people are being treated as second-class citizens, being charged *more for the same food from the same location* than the middle class.


[20-Jan-20 08:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/HostileArchitecture/new/ and then there;s hostile architecture to punish the homeless for being homeless.

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[20-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, that's the new thing


[20-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
real popular with fake progressives.


[20-Jan-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley types love to be clever with engineering to screw the poor under the guise of "improving society"


[20-Jan-20 08:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what's that, you need to sleep? Well good luck finding a place to do so!


[20-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are people who work at Google who sleep in the parking lot in their vehicles.


[20-Jan-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because there is nowhere else to sleep.


[20-Jan-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then they pass laws that sleeping in your car is illegal


[20-Jan-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you're doing an internship, pay at Google won't get you a decent apartment.


[20-Jan-20 08:54 AM] byte[]#2610
there are people who go through with concrete saws and such demolishing hostile architecture


[20-Jan-20 08:54 AM] byte[]#2610
that particular picture is from china


[20-Jan-20 09:05 AM] Opponent#3498
well no wonder. There is no poverty. There is no homeless. There's just the Party.


[20-Jan-20 09:06 AM] byte[]#2610
woo, party


[20-Jan-20 09:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the homeless party! it;s so undivisive you barely notice it!


[20-Jan-20 09:07 AM] byte[]#2610
ah fuck I'm bleeding out


[20-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
oh no they got him


[20-Jan-20 09:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jan-20 09:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't had a zit on my face in ages


[20-Jan-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Living without access to sanitation? We'll make sure you're living without access to basic shelter! Way more humane once you're dead!


[20-Jan-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I just realized something intriguing


[20-Jan-20 09:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Seattle is uber gentrified


[20-Jan-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the political compass, there are three primary colors and a color that doesn't actually exist


[20-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, the three primaries are in the wrong places to make it fully work.


[20-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, libertarians are the color that doesn't actually exist, is just two primaries overtop each other.


[20-Jan-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
(if you assigned it as green, red, blue, magenta instead of the red, blue, green, magenta, it'd actually make sense as to which)


[20-Jan-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
philosophers who argue about colors: say sike right now


[20-Jan-20 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
philosophy of subjective experience is so incredibly aggravating because you literally can't do anything about it


[20-Jan-20 09:31 AM] byte[]#2610
you can argue that things have certain objective definitions (like ranges of color bands being the blackbody temperature of particular objects, or the photopigments in cones corresponding to particular objective wavelengths) but you can't tell someone what their experience of it is


[20-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is libertarians are just nazis with bits of legal weed etc. sprinkled on top as a disguise.


[20-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking forget horseshoe theory, political color theory.


[20-Jan-20 09:32 AM] byte[]#2610
well, that much was clear


[20-Jan-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the real position of libertarians isn't "we want gay weed"


[20-Jan-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
it's "we want REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


[20-Jan-20 09:33 AM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[20-Jan-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
thanks


[20-Jan-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This does mean Stalinism has to be colored green which breaks all the memes, but that's okay.


[20-Jan-20 09:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I made a mistake taking this philosophy class, the argumentation is literally eating me alive


[20-Jan-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let me guess: Everything is wishy-washy and holistic and it's clear the "philosophers" just hav a few bones to pikk they make everything in society about?


[20-Jan-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Freud-level arguments, no way to actually test anything, akin to economics?


[20-Jan-20 09:38 AM] byte[]#2610
the claims are all unfalsifiable


[20-Jan-20 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
like with regard to colors, we actually know a lot about how colors interact with each other in certain contrast ratios to form particular subjective experiences like "this element is clearly distinct from this other one despite them being similar wavelengths"


[20-Jan-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
something that would change if they were other wavelengths


[20-Jan-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
but then they just redefine the problem


[20-Jan-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
"what if they just experience it differently"


[20-Jan-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
making it by nature unfalsifiable


[20-Jan-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then put them in a fukking MRI machine.


[20-Jan-20 09:41 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no point arguing it really, the reasonable thing to do is to just say "we agree these wavelengths are green"


[20-Jan-20 09:41 AM] byte[]#2610
whatever the subjective experience may be that is our agreement


[20-Jan-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the things I hate about philosophers and their intrusion into neurology is that now that we hav tools that can actually peer somewhat into the mind, we still treat shit as magic blakk boxes.


[20-Jan-20 09:42 AM] byte[]#2610
you can't experience what someone else is experiencing with present technology


[20-Jan-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the problem is we could at least verify similar patterns


[20-Jan-20 09:42 AM] byte[]#2610
we could do that already


[20-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but *philosophers* don't like it when you can actually create observations


[20-Jan-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
like I said by defining colors in an objective way using blackbody radiation


[20-Jan-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
and by comparing those with retinal photopigments


[20-Jan-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They try to invalidate anything that would invalidate their vague claims.


[20-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a fundamental problem with how the field is designed.


[20-Jan-20 09:44 AM] byte[]#2610
you can be certain of what evidence someone is receiving from the physical objects through which they collect that evidence, like the eyes


[20-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economics has the exact same problem btw


[20-Jan-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In economics, assumptions are used to prove


[20-Jan-20 09:44 AM] byte[]#2610
but you can't say anything about how they experience it. does it matter? not really, because we agree what tbe objective thing is, but we just seem to get stuck in these loops


[20-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They say "the market always corrects itself", and then don't specify any timeframes or numbers


[20-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if the market EVER gets better after a downfall, it has corrected itself


[20-Jan-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
the assumption is any recovery is the market's doing, and thus that any recovery is proof the market did it.


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] byte[]#2610
economics is really about lies, damn lies, and statistics


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, talk of boom bust cycles without actually defining anything


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like, any increasing trend fits that


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it ever goes down for a bit at any point


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
any number of times.


[20-Jan-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Economists btw are **terrible** at actually predicting downturns.


[20-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the field can only measure a downturn long, long after it's started.


[20-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statistics are clearly broken.


[20-Jan-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's lies.


[20-Jan-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even if you properly accept things like fountain pen economy, you don't hav any way to test anything.


[20-Jan-20 09:48 AM] byte[]#2610
it seems like every economist ever protested the implementation of minimum wages, yet somehow the economy didn't collapse and businesses are doing fine


[20-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because of supply-side economics specifically.


[20-Jan-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
oh wait we need to invent new concepts about monopsonistic business practices in order to explain it


[20-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The school of thinking where you tax businesses less so they hav more money to giv to workers.


[20-Jan-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is fundamentally easily observable as not what actually happens.


[20-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of it is based on the idea of people simultaneously as rational agents that further things for themselves based on perfect information etc. and that businesses will be restrained somehow.


[20-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, if workers and consumers all hav perfect information, then it's possible for them to punish bad wages


[20-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's super responsive and businesses that act shitty get demolished.


[20-Jan-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If instead, you're in a real world with corruption, lies, idiocy etc.


[20-Jan-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly workers hav trouble moving away from a business that treats them poorly


[20-Jan-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, the gov't may even help said business retain workers


[20-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unrestrained business with imperfect workers and consumers leads to horrible exploitation that Republicans don't want to admit exists.


[20-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But modeling that is hard.


[20-Jan-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's a lot of that sweet Republican money in not modeling it, ever.


[20-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting actual, good economics will essentially require handing over control of banking to the Judiciary.


[20-Jan-20 09:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I had someone recently protest to me about how unions would have put him out of a job


[20-Jan-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive has no interest in impartiality or facts.


[20-Jan-20 09:54 AM] byte[]#2610
He works at home depot, he's a fucking moron


[20-Jan-20 09:55 AM] byte[]#2610
His arguments boiled down to
1. sometimes unions don't represent the workers, therefore all unions are bad
2. the government does everything unions used to, therefore all unions are unnecessary


[20-Jan-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let me guess


[20-Jan-20 09:55 AM] byte[]#2610
both obviously ridiculously false claims that don't stand up to any scrutiny


[20-Jan-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
3. The government shouldn't do anything, because businesses are benevolent and would go out of business if they did something wrong.


[20-Jan-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would complete the trifecta to arrive at "businesses should be able to enslave me"


[20-Jan-20 09:56 AM] byte[]#2610
no actually he's very adamant on the government intervening


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he thinks that a far-off bureaucrat acting 10 months after people are already out of work or dead is going to be able to fix shit.


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Riiiiight


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that's precisely it


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should tell him we don't need city governance


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] byte[]#2610
he told me he was neocon but really I pegged him as neolib since a month ago when he argued that apportioning funding to schools based on gpa was fair


[20-Jan-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause the federal gov't has the army to save us if anything bad happens like our sewer system breaks.


[20-Jan-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a good chance he'll actually buy into it and say the Army Corps of Engineers would totally do a better job running around America at breaknekk pace fixing random problems than if we had local people try and do it.


[20-Jan-20 10:04 AM] byte[]#2610
oh another thing that frustrated me about philosophy is ship-of-theseus style arguments about token vs type instantiation


[20-Jan-20 10:05 AM] byte[]#2610
you can _think_ Obama was a good president in a certain sense (the type) but you can't have the same neural patterns activating at the same time that result in an identical "thought" as when I think it


[20-Jan-20 10:05 AM] byte[]#2610
does it matter? no. discussion? aaaaargh


[20-Jan-20 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
well maybe it does. But without concrete data and a plan you cannot apply these ideas to, say, neurology. Or psychology.


[20-Jan-20 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
and gathering data there so far proved to be a really mixed bag.


[20-Jan-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the whole argument is designed to refuse any gathering of actual data.


[20-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like an argument about whether my phone provider's website is bad UI, as I had to ignore the actual UI prompts it had in order to resetup autobilling, and instead of defining what makes good UI, you say that actually, we can't all agree, so it's unknowable.


[20-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a complete dodge of the issue.


[20-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same as the whole wHaT iS An ASsaULt riFLEZ????


[20-Jan-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the common conservative argument in response to liberals wanting limits on what kinds of guns people can own. The argument goes that we can't all agree on what definition to use immediately, so it's impossible and we shouldn't bother.


[20-Jan-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not an *actual* question of what definition to use, any response of trying to create a definition is just attakked arbitrarily.


[20-Jan-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just to mokk liberals for thinking that it's even theoretically POSSIBLE to regulate weaponry.


[20-Jan-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
you just had to go there, didn't you.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also for daring to say that you can specifically call a particular type of rifle intended to fire rapidly an "assault" weapon.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
people already established what makes an assault rifle and why civilian versions of it doesn't fit the definition.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
now 'assault WEAPON', that's something that never been defined, only used by scaremongering.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there you go, doing exactly what I'm talking about


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point is we can define it to mean whatever the fukk we want, actually.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
neither side ever tried to define it. Well, AWB did.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it was stupid, arbitrary, but it had clear, concrete definitions.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are not beholden to some particular flawed definition, nor are we awash in a sea of uncertainty.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can actually, ourselves, *reason* out a definition.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
A completely different definition to anything previously come up with, if we want.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
see, that's the thing.


[20-Jan-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no intrinsic force in the universe that says what definitions we can do, there is just, you know, measurements and logic.


[20-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
completely different, arbitrary definition. Whatever we want. And legislate that based on fearmongering propaganda.


[20-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a strawman.


[20-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
if you don't see why people don't want to support that, it would take a better person than me to explain


[20-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I did not bring up any fearmongering propaganda and in fact was using this as an example.


[20-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
why would you bring that up? Admittance of the propaganda hurts your case.


[20-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general it's a good idea to hav some kind of regulations on weapon ownership to reduce organized crime, and the US has some, like on fully automatic weapons.


[20-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that the argument style of saying we CAN'T use any definitions is fallacious.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
again. AWB was a thing.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also fallacious, for entirely separate reasons, to say that fearmongering propaganda is a reason not to implement such bans.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
there is/was already a definition.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but we can create a new one.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No definition is sacrosanct.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
and then another. And another.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to step away from guns for a moment let;s look at the definition of "unemployed". many arguments about unemployment are built around only using the positive data, and it tends to embellish on what unemployed actually means. We cant get an accurate look at actual unemployment rates because surveys tend to leave out some portion of the population because thye dont fit a "definition"


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
and another after that.


[20-Jan-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it is expected that society will change.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
again, see why people don't want to support it. Give a finger, lose an arm kind of deal.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And our legal definitions would be wrong not to adapt with the times.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fallacious.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Changing definitions does not mean that there will be an ever-increasing limitation.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may simply be that the definition had problems that we figured out how to solve.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may even be that newer definitions prohibit less.


[20-Jan-20 10:27 AM] Opponent#3498
has it ever happen in history?


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to establish why there would be a slippery slope.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slippery slopes? Yes.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
has ever a drive for INCREASED REGULATION resulted in LESS REGULATION?


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
especially if said drive if pushed along party lines?


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a strawman.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
no


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
no it is not.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kind of is though


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
you cannot say 'it will be fiiiiiiiine' ignoring a specific context.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It very much is, you are saying I'm arguing for increasing regulations more than once.


[20-Jan-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument here is to add a single regulation of some kind.


[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And furthermore, to update it over time.


[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
How to update it isn't specified.


[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
common sense dictates that if you make people comfortable with the idea of some regulation, you'll have much less opposition for increasing it.


[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there is no direction or "push" specified in how to update it.


[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[20-Jan-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't believe for a second it would not be used this way.


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just going bakk to the idea of slippery slope.


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Opponent#3498
I fully expect massive, sweeping gun control tightening and confiscations as soon as moron in charge is out.


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You havn't actually established that.


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unemployment definitions dont take into account people who cannot work or who have given up on working


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Opponent#3498
and I bet people in red states are a lot more worried about it than I am :D


[20-Jan-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
In all likelihood, any highly successful restriction on gun ownership will result later on in loosening of gun ownership restrictions.


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Opponent#3498
why would it?


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which in turn discourages cata being collected for the arguement on unemployment rates


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The political drive to restrict would be lost


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Opponent#3498
'WHAT, YOU WANT TO KEEL PEEPULZ? ARE YOU A NAZI???'


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the political drive weren't lost, it'd mean we still hav crazy high rates of deaths in crime, due to guns


[20-Jan-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
in which case, well, the regulation clearly wasn't created properly.


[20-Jan-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of a self-correcting problem.


[20-Jan-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans and their love of guns acts as a spring to return things to looser restrictions


[20-Jan-20 10:32 AM] Opponent#3498
the political drive to own the cons and prevent them to have power to push through another Trump ever again. Destroy their symbols, their morale, their identity.


[20-Jan-20 10:32 AM] Opponent#3498
one of those is firearms. It's a symbol, more than a tool, unfortunately.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see a huge cultural change from removing guns.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, if one could be made, that would be good.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Opponent#3498
if regulations ever go down they never lift again.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
As the argument goes, it's not the guns, but the culture that adores them and being able to shoot people up.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well then, change the culture.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Opponent#3498
you'll swiftly get into 'permit for pocket knives' UK lookalike deal and that would be that.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's very unlikely the culture will change in a short amount of time.


[20-Jan-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has much lower deaths due to crime


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
due to crime or due to firearms?


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
fundamentally, UK crime is less dangerous to be involved in.


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Due to crime.


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you break it up by which weapons were used


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's clear that it's firearms involved in the crime that are the problem.


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're what creates the extra US deaths from crimes.


[20-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll have to check up on that. Every graph ever that I've seen focuses on firearms exclisively.


[20-Jan-20 10:36 AM] Opponent#3498
the weapons used were the ones available. You get firearms instead of Indian burnings and acid attacks.


[20-Jan-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/134DB/production/_85876097_homicides_guns_624_v3.png

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[20-Jan-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weird how in countries that hav very similar culture, but more restrictive gun laws, a lot less people get murdered


[20-Jan-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the amount extra we hav is all from guns


[20-Jan-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
UK with 4x lower murder rate, virtually all without using guns.


[20-Jan-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also interesting how Canada has a larger share of its murders by guns than the other two


[20-Jan-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt that's proximity to the US


[20-Jan-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
more likely it's related to racial inequality


[20-Jan-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot of natives in Canada and while they didn't get as shafted as their brethren in the US, they still got pretty shafted.


[20-Jan-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Canada's got both the cultural fight with them and the Quebecois so that probably impairs gov't efforts to restrict things like weapon ownership, soon enuff gangs are shooting people


[20-Jan-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Australia was VERY fast in banning guns after a major shooting.


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, it's a lot of racial issues that are the reason the US is so screwy on gun laws


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and it's frankly a pretty pathetic response.


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guys with guns = NRA/Reagan ban the guns


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Opponent#3498
but also a very predictable.


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
White guys with guns = NRA boos any bill that so much as breathes restriction


[20-Jan-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gun ownership is also higher in areas with lots of white supremacists etc.


[20-Jan-20 10:43 AM] Opponent#3498
see and that's the main problem I have with straight up supporting gun rights and opposing any form of gun control.


[20-Jan-20 10:43 AM] Opponent#3498
it IS tied to white supremacy culturally.


[20-Jan-20 10:43 AM] Opponent#3498
always a caveat.


[20-Jan-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it's a bad idea to hav statues of people who took up arms to defend their right to literally enslave people by race in areas full of racial tension, with guns freely available.


[20-Jan-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just a thought etc.


[20-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it's often a bad idea to have statues of anyone tbh. But yes, certainly political leaders behind that decision should have been long gone. Military, non-political figures, there's an argument either way.


[20-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
also, it got worse in 5 years for the US, and better for Canada, altho it would be nice if the BBC kept their graphic style the same https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/149E1/production/_108194448_gun_comaprisons_v2_640-nc.png

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[20-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, worse for Canada.


[20-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I couldn't find the original source for the first chart, but it does seem to be widely cited.


[20-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The old style also helped visualize the disparity in the murder rate to begin with.


[20-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You might hav to do some digging to find it on the UNODC's website.


[20-Jan-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
UN stuff can be rather variable in how easy it is to get to the statistics.


[20-Jan-20 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh blegh, it's available as a GIANT XLSX DOC


[20-Jan-20 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.unodc.org/gsh/en/data.html

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[20-Jan-20 10:53 AM] Opponent#3498
well.


[20-Jan-20 11:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/peter-duttons-home-affairs-ministry-will-investigate-itself-for-corruption-20170721-gxfwov.html

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Peter Dutton's home affairs ministry will investigate itself for c...
Fairfax Media is aware of several major investigations under way into the integrity of people or operations within agencies set to form part of new super-ministry.
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[20-Jan-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/17/politics/mueller-documents-cnn-buzzfeed-lawsuit/index.html

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Justice Department releases 176 more pages of Mueller documents to...
CNN has received another 176 pages of notes from major witness interviews during former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation -- this time spanning the interviews with more obscure but well-connected witnesses, as well as with some of Mueller's main targets, includin...
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[20-Jan-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Despite a court order, the Justice Department is holding back Mueller memos regarding the interviews conducted with the President's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner.`


[20-Jan-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmmm


[20-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-s-top-russia-official-put-leave-pending-investigation-n1118641

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White House's top Russia official put on leave pending investigation
It's another jolt of uncertainty to an office in the White House that has experienced significant turnover during the past year.
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[20-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The top White House official responsible for Russia and Europe has been put on indefinite administrative leave amid a security-related investigation`


[20-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_hrmmmm_


[20-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`Peek, whose background is in Middle East affairs, took over the Russia and Europe portfolio from Tim Morrison, who was a key witness in House hearings on Trump's impeachment. The Russia and Europe role is the same one that was previously occupied by Fiona Hill, another key impeachment witness during last year’s hearings.`


[20-Jan-20 01:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's  the point of the impeachment, if nothing happens  out of it?


[20-Jan-20 01:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It pretty much just gives an official stamp to the "half the country thinks you're a moron"


[20-Jan-20 01:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
50 years from now, kids will learning about presidents in school will remember Trump as the (first) twitter president, and for being impeached


[20-Jan-20 01:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whatever other accomplishments and failings will almost certainly fade away, like they have for practically every other president


[20-Jan-20 01:16 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  I wonder could you get more states to pass gun laws by arming tons of minorities in 1 place with guns? Sounds racist, but it gets something done to the gun problem (for 1 more state).


[20-Jan-20 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh I think it's a fundamental problem that children learn specifically of presidents and why those matter. And the fact those matter this bloody much.


[20-Jan-20 01:17 PM] Opponent#3498
US' near-worship of it's presidents was always really, really weird to me. Like, didn't they always say they wanted to move away from 'God's representative on Earth', monarchy, all that good stuff?


[20-Jan-20 01:17 PM] jlun2#8758
Elected monarch of course


[20-Jan-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
'elected'.


[20-Jan-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
by 'electoral college'.


[20-Jan-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[20-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America's always been more fascinated with royalty than countries with actual royalty


[20-Jan-20 01:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I think part of the obsession with presidents as people and not as a job is to do with the whole "american dream" thing


[20-Jan-20 01:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The notion that "anyone can make, even you!"


[20-Jan-20 01:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also NYT editorial board's endorsing Warren... and Klobuchar, somehow


[20-Jan-20 02:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine taking money from people who didn't vote for you to raise your own pay by 3% after sitting at home claiming your normal paycheck for 3 years. This is what a working government looks like. 💸 :trixdisgust: 
https://twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/1219180661958942720?s=20

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On Nolan today with @vinnybelfast -

Hike students uni fees to raise extra money for Northern Ireland. That's what First Minister Arlene Foster has hinted at.

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[20-Jan-20 03:31 PM] Opponent#3498
unironically sounds like a dream.


[20-Jan-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e2f09d52b5d53a093447117df54e6360

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France's Macron tells global CEOs: we're open for business
PARIS (AP) — France's president is taking on the role of salesman in chief for his strike-battered country.  Emmanuel Macron used the splendor of the Palace of Versailles to woo...
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[20-Jan-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Emmanuel Macron used the splendor of the Palace of Versailles to woo international business leaders on Monday, insisting that his reforms are attracting investors despite six weeks of crippling protests and walkouts over his plan to overhaul the retirement system.

Driving home the message that the eurozone’s second-largest economy remains open for business, Macron’s government announced a 2 billion-euro ($2.2 billion) contract for the French shipyard of Saint-Nazaire on the Atlantic coast. It will build two cruise ships for the company MSC, representing some 2,400 jobs over three years. MSC confirmed plans to build other ships in France for another 4 billion euros ($4.4 billion).


[20-Jan-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“Good news doesn’t arrive out of nowhere. It comes because we are implementing reforms, because our country is moving, mobilizing,” Macron said. “I know that our heads are being filled with bad news and that we’re led to believe that everything is going to explode. But it’s not true.”


[20-Jan-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Emmanuel Macron's asshole is open for plowing


[20-Jan-20 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6699e21c649db0fea3952373c63be726

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Davos bolsters security as protesters march toward venue
DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) — Hundreds of disgruntled protesters against the elite World Economic Forum are marching through the Alpine snows toward its annual gathering in Davos, as officials on...
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[20-Jan-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/2020-edelman-trust-barometer-shows-growing-sense-of-inequality/11883788 version without facebook tracker stub

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People no longer believe working hard will lead to a better life, ...
Survey authors: "We now observe an Alice in Wonderland moment of elite buoyancy and mass despair."
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[20-Jan-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/CNET/status/1218931492669263873

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What if a stranger could snap your picture on the sidewalk then use an app to quickly discover your name and address? A startup called Clearview AI has made that possible. https://t.co/tAd688jfv5
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[20-Jan-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
WE 👏 LIVE 👏 IN 👏 A 👏 SOCIETY


[20-Jan-20 04:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
That's starting to remember me that South Park season about internet trolls and tracking


[20-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, a stalker app


[20-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah it's just going to be used to prey on women


[20-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I guarantee it


[20-Jan-20 05:02 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
There probably will be some legal repercussion... it also stumbles on some laws already right? say EU's right to be forgotten should be applicable


[20-Jan-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this sounds like soemthing mark zuckerburg would come up with


[20-Jan-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this will also be used for murder planning


[20-Jan-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://www.techspot.com/news/83623-joe-biden-calls-game-developers-little-creeps-who.html

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Joe Biden calls game developers "little creeps" who make titles th...
Biden, who is currently campaigning to become the Democratic nominee for the 2020 presidential election, shared his opinions in an interview with the New York Times. When asked about Silicon Valley’s expansion of power during his time in the Obama…
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[20-Jan-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[20-Jan-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I have nothing constructive or polite to say about it


[20-Jan-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jan-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Joe Biden IRL https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/408651896254103553/668603080916336660/aQ12DVz_460s.png

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[20-Jan-20 05:17 PM] illumnious#7938
son of a bitch

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[20-Jan-20 05:18 PM] illumnious#7938
I have to donate to this fuckboy

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[20-Jan-20 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[20-Jan-20 05:30 PM] Opponent#3498
```Most employees (83 percent) globally are worried about job loss due to automation, a looming recession, lack of training, cheaper foreign competition, immigration and the gig economy. ```


[20-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
so much for 'racism is the bedrock of US, only US fears immigration'


[20-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```Fifty-seven percent of respondents worry about losing the respect and dignity they once enjoyed in their country. ```


[20-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest probably live in post-USSR 😂 Wasn't ever anything to lose there.


[20-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
```Nearly two in three feel the pace of technological change is too fast. Australia recorded one of the largest declines of trust in technology.```


[20-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not fast enough. Organic 3d printing pls when? 100% serious. People mistake stalking apps for progress.


[20-Jan-20 05:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/1219298750608240645

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#NewsAlert – Mumbai will get a mounted police unit for traffic and crowd control post after a gap of 88 years.

Join @Zakka_Jacob on #BrassTacks. https://t.co/J5qePIKdQX
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[20-Jan-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.wptv.com/news/national/as-trial-nears-trump-lawyers-call-impeachment-case-flimsy

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As trial nears, Trump lawyers call impeachment case flimsy
President Donald Trump's legal team is asserting that he did “absolutely nothing wrong" and calling the impeachment case flimsy and a “dangerous perversion of the Constitution."
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[20-Jan-20 05:43 PM] Opponent#3498
like a broken vinyl record.


[20-Jan-20 05:44 PM] illumnious#7938
ouch


[20-Jan-20 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/01/20/alan-dershowitz-1998-doesnt-have-to-be-crime-to-impeach.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

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Alan Dershowitz in 1998 on Clinton: Doesn't have to be crime to im...
In an interview from 1998 about the Clinton impeachment, Alan Dershowitz says it "certainly doesn't have to be a crime" to be impeachable. This is opposite of his defense of President Trump over the weekend.
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[20-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"That truck sized pile of evidence is flimsy at best!"


[20-Jan-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
"There's no Trump's hand-written and signed confession, word for word repeating the charges, so he's innocent."


[20-Jan-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Your honor, the defendant investigated himself and found he did nothing wrong"

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[20-Jan-20 06:05 PM] illumnious#7938
back with his bullshit https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1219304652438675456?s=20

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USA! USA! USA!
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[20-Jan-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm surprised he hasnt tried to tampograph his gold ass logo onto american flags yet


[20-Jan-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering he literally signed bibles like he was god, i wouldnt put it past him


[20-Jan-20 06:15 PM] illumnious#7938
so many things wrong with this video


[20-Jan-20 06:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1219292434749886465?s=20

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Civil rights champion Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. changed the course of history.

He brought out the best in America by opening our eyes & lifting the conscience of our nation.

We must carry on this great American hero's legacy of justice, equality & freedom. 

#M...
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[20-Jan-20 06:16 PM] illumnious#7938
everyone spot the errors


[20-Jan-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think he listened to the wrong speech


[20-Jan-20 06:19 PM] illumnious#7938
that's one


[20-Jan-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, doctor king would want immigrant torture camps! Join me in the grand opening of 3 more!


[20-Jan-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm surprised he didnt put his head on king's body


[20-Jan-20 06:28 PM] illumnious#7938
also the video is fake


[20-Jan-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a convincing forgery


[20-Jan-20 06:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Isn't that tracker app just using Google image search to find selfies on Facebook?


[20-Jan-20 07:09 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent Your quote:
> Most employees (83 percent) globally are worried about job loss due to automation, a looming recession, lack of training, cheaper foreign competition, immigration and the gig economy. 
From an old article, but probably still applies:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/24/americans-think-robots-will-take-everyone-elses-jobs-but-not-theirs.html
At least they feel safe in this regard I guess

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Americans believe robots will take everyone else’s job, but thei...
A new survey reveals that most people think their industries won't be affected by AI.
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[20-Jan-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've met a lot of hvac techs and electricians who believe they're immune to automation as well


[20-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/19/trump-grudges-mar-a-lago-spat-100697

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‘Pretty nervy of you!’: Trump’s Palm Beach billionaire spat
Whether in the privacy of his clubs or out on the campaign trail, the president can’t help but hold onto a grudge.
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[20-Jan-20 07:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/20/max-q-spacex-succeeds-with-a-spectacular-crew-dragon-test-launch/

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Max Q: SpaceX succeeds with a spectacular Crew Dragon test launch ...
Max Q is a new weekly newsletter all about space. Sign up here to receive it weekly on Sundays in your inbox. We’re off and running with good milestones achieved for NASA’s commercial crew program, which means it’s more likely than ever we’ll actually see astronauts l...
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[20-Jan-20 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
not politics


[20-Jan-20 07:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51171035

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China virus cases triple as infection spreads
This comes as China confirms that a new strain of coronavirus can pass from person to person.
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[20-Jan-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-richmond-gun-rally-broke-pledge-honoring-mlk-day-2020-1

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Trump immediately broke a pledge to 'pause' to honor MLK Day by ac...
After honoring MLK, Trump started tweeting about the gun-rights rally in Richmond, Virginia, that is taking place Monday.
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[20-Jan-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-daughter-trump-water-bottle-no-checks-2020-1

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Nancy Pelosi's daughter said she was able to hand Trump a bottle o...
The incident happened when Alexandra Pelosi was filming at the White House six weeks after Trump was inaugurated, according to a new book.
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[20-Jan-20 08:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/478080-gop-leadership-there-arent-51-votes-to-dismiss-trump-articles-of-impeachment

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GOP leadership: There aren't 51 votes to dismiss Trump articles of...
Sen.
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[20-Jan-20 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h29y3pnvwtb41.jpg

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[20-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Opponent#3498
...or heed the warning.


[20-Jan-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479053-kellyanne-conway-martin-luther-king-would-oppose-impeaching-trump

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Kellyanne Conway: Martin Luther King would oppose impeaching Trump
White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said on Martin Luther King Jr. Day that the late civil rights icon would not support impeaching President Trump.
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[20-Jan-20 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/N7r6Kno.jpg

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Truly not presidential
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[20-Jan-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They were a republican, so obviously they'd take our side no matter what!"


[20-Jan-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Martin luthor king would absolutely love our migrant facilities at the border! He was all about latino torture, right?"


[20-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Ajediday/status/1219038009670144000

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Tim V (@Ajediday)
https://twitter.com/Ajediday/status/1219038009670144000
@CNET Just because you can do a thing, does that mean you should?
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[20-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
is it just me, or is this lowkey a quote about abortion


[20-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
No this is a common psychological problem.


[20-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sunk cost fallacy.


[20-Jan-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/2gay2lift/status/1219343170577883137 no sanders

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[20-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
media companies are getting constantly attacked for reports, polls etc. that don't report sanders


[20-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they still aren't reporting him


[20-Jan-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they are complicit


[20-Jan-20 09:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Klobachar is some kind of charazard evolution in Pokémon?


[20-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], it's a local news station, so it's owned by sinclair (conservative and trump-supporting media group)


[20-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

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Deadspin
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Sinclair's Soldiers in Trump's War on Media
Anchors at Sinclair-owned local news station parrot a script pushing Trump talking points and “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.”
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[20-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
tHiS iS eXtReMeLy DaNgErOuS tO oUr DeMoCrAcY


[20-Jan-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
t̴͍͓Hi̙ͅS̥̙͜ ͖̫̲i̟S͔͈͙ ̵̮̠e̶̙̩X̗̯̙t̷͔̻R̯̝͈e͍̮M͓͍͚eL̮̫͢y̢̹ ̨̲̜D̫̰́a̰̼͞N̫̦͍g̥̘͟Er̪͇͞O̺̥͞u͝Ś̭ͅ ͙͢t̗̥͝O̢̱͕ ͉̪͖o̸̟̖U̻r͜ ̡D̀ęͅM̡̲̲o҉̳̯͙C͙ͅͅr̲̩̲A̧̝̥c̰͚̟Y̪̯̳


[20-Jan-20 09:36 PM] illumnious#7938
that petty war page


[20-Jan-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
@illumnious, why do you have to donate to trump?


[20-Jan-20 09:43 PM] illumnious#7938
they send me an email


[20-Jan-20 09:45 PM] illumnious#7938
I literally don't give zero fucks about trump


[20-Jan-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
I was referring to this https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/668851847456620550


[20-Jan-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
you said you had to donate


[20-Jan-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
I lied


[20-Jan-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
I didn't do shit


[20-Jan-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
fake news


[20-Jan-20 09:54 PM] illumnious#7938
yeah


[20-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_0mCsB_4-0

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What Do We Do About Transgender Prisoners?
If "man" and "woman" are interchangable categories to which anyone can identify, what effect does that have on the prison service? 

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[20-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well you could make prisons not be rapefests for a start.


[20-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And remove the whole "need" to segregate them.


[20-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and how would you propose to do that?


[20-Jan-20 10:22 PM] illumnious#7938
a woman


[20-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
tighter restrictions for inmates?


[20-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't a large part of prison rape it being power moves


[20-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And not desperation for booty


[20-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Otherwise conjugal visits would fix everything


[20-Jan-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of problems with prison is that it's treated more like a dungeon than a reformatory


[20-Jan-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1218314582835519489

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#BREAKING: @MiamiPD Capt. @OrtizFOP tells city commission "I am a black male" after he was caught lying about his race on 2014 lieutenant's exam and 2017 captain's application — his original MPD application says he's white Hispanic #BecauseMiami https://t.co/meaJ2mlQGn
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[20-Jan-20 10:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1219348788973838336?s=21

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It was exactly three years ago today, January 20, 2017,  that I was sworn into office. So appropriate that today is also MLK jr DAY. African-American Unemployment is the LOWEST in the history of our Country, by far. Also, best Poverty, Youth, and Employment numbers, ever. ...
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[20-Jan-20 10:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Basic ass Floridans


[20-Jan-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cant even just honor a day without trying to one up the historical figure being celebrated


[20-Jan-20 10:53 PM] illumnious#7938
He does not give a fuck


[20-Jan-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://t.co/auBy0NKQWW?amp=1

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump on unemployment for blacks, Latinos
WASHINGTON (AP) — A look at one of President Donald Trump's statements from his State of the Union address on Tuesday night and how it compares with the facts: TRUMP: "African-American, Hispanic-American and Asian-American unemployment have all reached their lowest levels e...
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[20-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.statista.com/statistics/237939/us-employment-rates-by-ethnicity/

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U.S. employment rate in 2018, by ethnicity | Statista
This statistic shows the employment to population rate in the United States amongst different ethnic groups in 2018.
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[20-Jan-20 11:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1219379914631196672?s=21

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Trump War Room --- Text FIGHT to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1219379914631196672?s=21
The state of #TeamTrump is “better than it even was in 2016 and better than it was 3 months ago,” says campaign manager @Parscale. 

“Every standard we have to measure what’s going on with the President and trying to win victory in 2020, we’re doing better.” ht...
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[20-Jan-20 11:10 PM] Opponent#3498
```a lot of problems with prison is that it's treated more like a dungeon than a reformatory```


[20-Jan-20 11:10 PM] Opponent#3498
people can't make up their mind whether prisons are for containment, punishment or reformation


[20-Jan-20 11:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I think picking 1 and sticking with it would solve a lot of issues.


[20-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punishment is really bad for society because you just make people better criminals


[20-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Containment is a waste of resources most of the time because people usually don't do a crime a second time unless they've spent time with other criminals learning more how to do it.


[20-Jan-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punishment does work fine when it's really light, cause humans don't actually care about scale of punishment so much as chance of being caught.


[20-Jan-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punishment + containment for all is really, really bad.


[20-Jan-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
ye I'm not a fan of that strategy either.


[20-Jan-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Realistically you don't "reform" people either so much as like, giv them fukking jobs.


[20-Jan-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
People generally will do jobs when they can.


[20-Jan-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
All in all, giant dedicated facilities to spend shittons of money with people in cages when most of them just need a way to make fukking money and contribute to society is a pretty bad idea.


[20-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ones that actually do just randomly kill people? Sure, put them somewhere nice and isolated where they can't hurt people.


[20-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Opponent#3498
a big sip of neoliberalism later and it turns from bad to worse, too.


[20-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
But also don't expect punishment to do anything to them either.


[20-Jan-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big question should just be whether you need to punish and reform *OR* contain someone.


[20-Jan-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punish and contain is stupid.


[20-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't really do much except perpetuate the issue and waste resources forever.


[20-Jan-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/06/about-thirteen-million-united-states-workers-have-more-than-one-job.html

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About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job
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[20-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's part of the reason


[20-Jan-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-norways-prison-system-is-so-successful-2014-12 something more like norway's prison systemis far mroe beneficial

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Why Norway's prison system is so successful
"Here we pay attention to you like human beings."
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[20-Jan-20 11:24 PM] illumnious#7938
gee that's a prision?


[20-Jan-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a reformatory


[20-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well not necessarily


[20-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anders Behring Breivik is never getting out AFAIK


[20-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but he has a cell like that.


[20-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the basic minimum to stay reasonably sane while you are kept away from society.


[20-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause punishing him would be pretty pointless, just a waste of resources.


[20-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
A tiny studio apartment with guards keeps him where he can't hurt anyone without any human rights abuses.


[20-Jan-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219985839751561226/668944390097469490/image0.jpg

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[20-Jan-20 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/061515/what-key-difference-between-participation-rate-and-unemployment-rate.asp

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Participation Rate vs. Unemployment Rate: What's the Difference?
Learn the key differences between the participation rate and unemployment rate, and how they can provide a clearer picture of the job market.
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[20-Jan-20 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/05/05/sure-unemployment-went-down-because-the-number-of-people-working-did/

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Sure, Unemployment Went Down - Because More People Left The Workforce
The lower unemployment rate seems like good news. But a major force driving it has been people leaving the labor force for various reasons, which makes the unemployment figures seem lower.
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[21-Jan-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jan-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I turned on my pc that was battery starved and it updated automatically


[21-Jan-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh god oh fuck


[21-Jan-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can there be a problem?


[21-Jan-20 12:26 AM] Treascair#7785
They had a major security issue that got so bad the NSA got involved, so it may be that patch.


[21-Jan-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well it was automatic


[21-Jan-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/was-martin-luther-king-a-socialist-new-book-may-surprise-you

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Was Martin Luther King a socialist? New book may surprise you.
Was Martin Luther King a socialist? New book may surprise you.
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[21-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
ew, that title is clickbaity


[21-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
didn't notice it


[21-Jan-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
do me the "saved me a click" version


[21-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Consider King’s words in a letter to Coretta Scott in 1952: “I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic,” he wrote, adding that capitalism had “out-lived its usefulness” because it had “brought about a system that takes necessities from the masses to give luxuries to the classes.”
> 
> King was 23 years old when he wrote that.


[21-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
> The same year, his future spouse sent him a copy of Edward Bellamy’s utopian socialist novel of 1888, Looking Backward. King wrote to her with revolutionary fervor: “Let us continue to hope, work, and pray that in the future we will live to see a warless world, a better distribution of wealth, and a brotherhood that transcends race or color…This is the gospel that I will preach to the world.”
> 
> King’s suspicion of American capitalism and his passion for economic justice did not represent a turn in his last tumultuous years, argues Honey, Haley Professor of Humanities at the University of Washington Tacoma. They were there all along.


[21-Jan-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Beyond the suit-and-tie King appealing for racial equality was a man in blue jeans marching alongside laborers, sitting in jail cells, and rousing workers on picket lines. This was a man keenly aware, observes Honey, that he was descended from “African American and Irish dirt-poor people who lived the American nightmare.” He had seen the horror of Depression-era breadlines that contributed to what King described as his “anti-capitalistic feelings.” Honey notes that as a teenager in the 1940s, King worked at a southern factory but quit after the foreman called him a “nigger.” When he worked on a tobacco farm up North, he saw first-hand that abusers of the poor were racially indiscriminate in their exploitation.


[21-Jan-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
basically, mlk was black bernie


[21-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
> As a college student, King wrote a paper declaring that racial injustice and economic injustice were inseparable twins.


[21-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent


[21-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Honey points out that civil rights leaders who rose to prominence before King, like W.E.B. Du Bois and Ella Baker, explicitly linked racism to economic injustice, but that line of thinking became taboo during the Red Scare. King, explains Honey, was a pragmatist who saw that it would not be possible to make progress on poverty until black people were able to vote and wield political power. So he devoted his efforts to securing civil rights as the first step in a movement to turn America into a place where poor people of all colors would one day be empowered.


[21-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
this is a good article, too bad it was ruined by the clickbaity title


[21-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], if I post anymore, I might as well just copy/paste the entire article lol


[21-Jan-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
> So was King an actual socialist? When I ask this question, Honey points me to the 1952 letters to Coretta. “Well, it’s pretty clear there, isn’t it? He’s probably a “small ‘d,’ small ‘s’ democratic socialist, but he’s also a pragmatist who wanted to change things for poor people and bring them things like free college education and free health care.”
> 
> These are, of course, the very same ideas that many Americans cheered when they came from the lips of Democratic Socialist Bernie Sanders in his surprisingly successful 2016 run for president.


[21-Jan-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, black bernie


[21-Jan-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
> small 'd'


[21-Jan-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
oof


[21-Jan-20 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Small d


[21-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh


[21-Jan-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are technically worse ways to secure a weapon.


[21-Jan-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
be like C++, with it loaded and strapped to your shin, barrel pointing at your foot


[21-Jan-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These were the people CNN told you were going to start a second civil war


[21-Jan-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
just remember that only progressive leaders ever get shot


[21-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw reagan was a progressive


[21-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He got shot because some pedophile wanted to impress a child actress.


[21-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also one of my favorite Onion articles


[21-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
?

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[21-Jan-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[21-Jan-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/angry-alan-dershowitz-goes-off-on-two-bullies-anderson-cooper-and-jeff-toobin-when-confronted-with-his-hypocrisy/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Angry Alan Dershowitz goes off on ‘two bullies’ Anderson Coope...
On Monday’s edition of CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360,” former Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz went on the defensive as Cooper and legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin confronted him with his prior statements that impeachment doesn’t require a criminal act for President B...
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[21-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I wasn't wrong, I'm just more correct now!"


[21-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go diddle some more teens you old shit


[21-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theroot.com/alan-dershowitz-sure-i-got-a-massage-at-jeffrey-epstei-1836314016

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Alan Dershowitz: Sure I Got a Massage at Jeffrey Epstein’s Mansi...
Welp, welcome to the slippery sleazy slope that comes with billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s recent arrest for child sex trafficking.
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[21-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Treascair#7785
Dersh needs to be dope slapped with a crowbar


[21-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully some of the managers make sure to include "As former counsel for Jeffery Epstein, Mr. Dershowitz, has pointed out..." in their statements

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[21-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lel


[21-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
OJ too


[21-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/body-found-near-rest-area-montana-confirmed-be-selena-not-n1118951

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https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/body-found-near-rest-area-montana-confirmed-be-selena-not-n1118951
Body found near Montana rest area confirmed to be Selena Not Afrai...
A U.S. Interior Department team found Selena's body Monday morning during a grid search southwest of an I-90 rest area.
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[21-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
:oof:


[21-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really politics but


[21-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
like three months ago Trump met with her uncle Alvin Not Afraid Jr.


[21-Jan-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that minorities die at much higher rates than whites to random shit. At least this time it probably wasn't a murder.


[21-Jan-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/opinion/sunday/michelle-alexander-new-jim-crow.html

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Opinion | The Injustice of This Moment Is Not an ‘Aberration’
From mass incarceration to mass deportation, our nation remains in deep denial.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/19/opinion/19alexander/19alexander-facebookJumbo.jpg


[21-Jan-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, people who think anything changed cause Obama was elected don't hav a clue.


[21-Jan-20 06:39 AM] Midknight#9798
things *did* change because Obama was elected though. the racist buttnuggets came crawling out of the swamps and hills, frothing at the mouth and chanting "MA-GA-MA-GA-MA-GA!" like '80s cartoon cultists worshipping a volcano


[21-Jan-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but most people assume the change was positive.


[21-Jan-20 06:40 AM] Midknight#9798
Most people don't pay any fucking attention though ^_^


[21-Jan-20 06:41 AM] Midknight#9798

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[21-Jan-20 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, Not Important's politician cousin.


[21-Jan-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/sending-back-climate-refugees-may-violate-right-to-life-un-body-2020-1

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A UN body has ruled that climate refugees can't be sent back to th...
The ruling came after a man from the Pacific nation of Kiribati claimed the effects of climate change and rising sea levels had forced him to migrate.
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[21-Jan-20 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/668987758425145344/9c5630f011fa0246785f8a257a87452f.png

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[21-Jan-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there'se a "rule of thirds" in photography


[21-Jan-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
and this image of bernie getting arrested in the 60's is an example of it


[21-Jan-20 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
> The guideline proposes that an image should be imagined as divided into nine equal parts by two equally spaced horizontal lines and two equally spaced vertical lines, and that important compositional elements should be placed along these lines or their intersections. Proponents of the technique claim that aligning a subject with these points creates more tension, energy and interest in the composition than simply centering the subject.


[21-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who is the guy at left?


[21-Jan-20 10:25 AM] Crow#5457
probably another cop


[21-Jan-20 10:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/478892-trump-scrambles-to-defend-pre-existing-conditions-record-amid-obamacare

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Trump scrambles to defend pre-existing conditions record amid Obam...
President Trump, who is backing a court challenge to the Affordable Care Act that would overturn the law and eliminate its protections for people with pre-existing conditions, is now tweeting about how he saved those protections.
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[21-Jan-20 10:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/statewatch/478665-cities-states-sue-over-planned-Trump-cuts-to-food-stamps

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Cities, states sue over planned Trump cuts to food stamps
A coalition of 14 states and two major cities filed a lawsuit Thursday in an attempt to block the Trump administration from eliminating food stamp benefits for hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans.
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[21-Jan-20 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479081-democrats-mcconnell-impeachment-trial-rules-a-cover-up-national-disgrace

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Democrats: McConnell impeachment trial rules a 'cover up,' 'nation...
Senate Democrats slammed Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Monday night over his proposed rules for President Trump's impeachment trial, accusing the GOP leader of a "cover up."
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[21-Jan-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479071-house-managers-trump-team-will-have-24-hours-over-two-days-to-make-arguments

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McConnell proposes compressed schedule for impeachment trial
House impeachment managers will have 24 hours over two days to make their opening arguments when they begin to present their case against President Trump to the Senate Wednesday, according to a resolution circulated by Senate Majority Le
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[21-Jan-20 02:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vd16cl5d5va41.jpg

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[21-Jan-20 02:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Food, shelter, and healthcare are a prison https://i.redd.it/524kuhkwr1c41.jpg

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[21-Jan-20 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And someone should provide ur mum with a humungous dick HA GOT EEM


[21-Jan-20 03:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy on the top looks like someone trying to sell me organic soap and screaming that regular soap lowers your testosterone levels


[21-Jan-20 04:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i should buy organic soap


[21-Jan-20 04:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  if you're interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsfyAqtiEho

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What To Do When Your Country is Drowning
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[21-Jan-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/20/797996503/political-unrest-in-puerto-rico-after-discovery-of-unused-hurricane-aid so apparently the puerto rican government hoarded hurricane maria supplies from the residents

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Political Unrest In Puerto Rico After Discovery Of Unused Hurrican...
Fed up with what they say is rampant corruption, protesters are demanding the resignation of Gov. Wanda Vázquez, who just months ago served as the island's Justice Secretary.
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[21-Jan-20 05:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  Old people are more conservative than younger people. Can't wait for millions of millennials to start defending rape like that in 40 years time.


[21-Jan-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people arent defending rape...


[21-Jan-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the ones defending rape are millionaires who like to fuck children and beleive thye have a right to buy and sell children as sex slaves


[21-Jan-20 05:44 PM] jlun2#8758
Oh. I thought it was because conservatives have a different view on that topic for some reason


[21-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no most people hate those fuckers


[21-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason they arent in prison is because they have loads of money to bribe corrupt judicials with


[21-Jan-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for parents, i know tons of thme form my college classes who enjoy the fuck out of video games, it;s not a matter of age, it;s a matter of familiarity


[21-Jan-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you;re familiar with games and arent looking to pin the blame for your actions on something you likely arent going to hate video games


[21-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll probably try to limit your children's time with them because they;re growing children and need non video game time to develop goodmental health


[21-Jan-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but you likely wont autmoatically hate video games just because you have children


[21-Jan-20 05:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  the parents I encountered just throw their kids a tablet as a baby sitter lol


[21-Jan-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well those are bad parents


[21-Jan-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they need to pay mroe attention to their kids and stop yelling at other people to look after them for them


[21-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, what;s mostly attributed to boomers is actually the hundreds of millionaires/billionaires railing against things to take attention off their negative actions while they raze our country to the ground and abscond with our resources


[21-Jan-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the people who dont understand the current job markets grew up with a much healthier job market and wage amount, so it;s confusing that their tried and true methods no longer work for the younger folk


[21-Jan-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and because it;s frustrating to watch their methods no longer work, they panic and start accusing people of "doing it wrong"


[21-Jan-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this covers my dad as well who doesnt understand that the current walmart is not the same as when he was an assistant manager and that inflation made what he saw as a good wage,really really terrible and unlivable


[21-Jan-20 06:01 PM] jlun2#8758
I have very little patience irl, so that drives me nuts


[21-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[21-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially hearing my hvac teacher spout about how young folk these days dont want to work


[21-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we would love to work... if you're willing to give us enough money to live off of...


[21-Jan-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have time to take a dozen unpaid internships while living in a box behind the company


[21-Jan-20 06:05 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1219435907775791104?s=21

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It’s about the Economy, stupid”, except when it comes to Trump. The fact is, the Fake News Media hates talking about the Economy, and how incredible it is!
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[21-Jan-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The stocks are up, that means i saved america!"


[21-Jan-20 06:11 PM] illumnious#7938
crying


[21-Jan-20 06:11 PM] illumnious#7938
:cryingTrump:


[21-Jan-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kinda wanna watch the senate trial but i also want to play temtem instead


[21-Jan-20 06:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Graph big that mean life good


[21-Jan-20 06:12 PM] illumnious#7938
me too


[21-Jan-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and both start at the same time


[21-Jan-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
will we even be able to hear anything from the senate trial with the cameras so far away?


[21-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton/nobody-likes-him-hillary-clinton-bashes-bernie-sanders-idUSKBN1ZK233 pot calling the kettle black

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'Nobody likes him' - Hillary Clinton bashes Bernie Sanders
Hillary Clinton criticized the campaign of her former Democratic presidential ri...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200121&t=2&i=1479417156&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0K1LC


[21-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479152-trump-confirms-plans-to-expand-travel-ban

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Trump confirms plans to expand travel ban
President Trump on Tuesday confirmed he plans to expand his controversial travel ban that bars citizens of certain countries from entering the United States.
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[21-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479160-trump-says-he-doesnt-know-very-angry-greta-thunberg

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Trump says he doesn't know 'very angry' Greta Thunberg
President Trump on Tuesday said he didn’t know anything about Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg but called her “very angry” in an interview with The Wall Street Journal.
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[21-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so this is the new republican defense "THATS MY PURSE, I DON'T KNOW YOU!!!"


[21-Jan-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/bobbyhill-kingofthehill-purse-gif-5029005

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[21-Jan-20 06:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200103-the-ukrainian-tv-show-that-predicted-the-future

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The Ukrainian TV show that predicted the future
President Zelensky came to power after his role on Ukraine’s hit TV series, Servant of the People. It was a case of life imitating art, writes Jennifer Keishin Armstrong.
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[21-Jan-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moscow coverup is speaking now


[21-Jan-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_J8sfZVEE

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WATCH LIVE | Impeachment trial of President Trump resumes in Senate
Today, the Senate will vote to start President Trump's Senate impeachment trial with a resolution that sets up the rules of the trial, including how long it will last and how long everyone has to speak. Each side will get a set amount of hours to present its case for or again...
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[21-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-livestreams-pence-speech-at-church-including-sermon-with-pastor-saying-demonic-spirit-causes-homosexuality/?utm_source=push_notifications

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White House livestreams Pence speech at church – including sermo...
Vice President Mike Pence traveled to Tennessee this weekend tp deliver a speech at a predominantly Black Memphis-area church, just one day before the nation celebrated Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. But it was not Pence’s remarks that are making headlines. Instead, those of...
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[21-Jan-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
jesus christ https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-documentary/index.html

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Clinton says 'nobody likes' Sanders and won't commit to backing hi...
Hillary Clinton blasts Sen. Bernie Sanders in a new documentary, saying "nobody likes him" and declining in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter to say whether she would endorse and campaign for him if he's the Democratic 2020 nominee.
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[21-Jan-20 07:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michael-avenatti-being-held-same-cell-housed-joaqu-n-el-n1118981

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Lawyer: Michael Avenatti says he is being held in cell that housed...
His lawyer has requested that Avenatti be moved from the cell where it "feels like it is in the mid-40s" to general population.
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[21-Jan-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
prison conditions in the US are inhumane


[21-Jan-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
not big surprise


[21-Jan-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
since we treat prisoners almost as badly as we treat farm animals


[21-Jan-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
instead of as, you know, people


[21-Jan-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look clinton is still bitter about 2016


[21-Jan-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am surprised at this news


[21-Jan-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:caddy:


[21-Jan-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/01/21/metro/iranian-student-removed-us-before-court-hearing-lawyer-says/

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Northeastern student from Iran removed from US before court hearin...
An Iranian student planning to attend Northeastern University was removed from the country overnight in defiance of a court order, his lawyer said, and a federal judge said Monday there was nothing left for the courts to do in the case.
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[21-Jan-20 07:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Geez


[21-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/business/krystal-company-bankruptcy/index.html

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Fast food chain Krystal files for bankruptcy
Krystal, a popular fast food chain in the southeastern United States, has filed for bankruptcy.
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[21-Jan-20 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never heard of this chain


[21-Jan-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy the president's personal attorney si here to be a broken record!


[21-Jan-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blah blah blah inaugeration, blah blah blah, sore loser democrats, blah blah blah no evidence


[21-Jan-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would make a horrible congressmen because at this point i would have lost all sense of professionalism


[21-Jan-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It was very painful to sit through evidence we plan to ignore, fuck that guy am i right?"


[21-Jan-20 08:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-screeches-read-the-transcript-amid-schiffs-opening-statement-and-it-quickly-backfires/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump screeches ‘READ THE TRANSCRIPT’ amid Schiff’s opening ...
President Donald Trump may be out of the country on official business, but his mind was back in Washington on his impeachment trial. The president tweeted out one of his catchphrases as Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) delivered a point-by-point rebuttal to Republican defenses of Trum...
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[21-Jan-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they did read the transcript, that's why this trial is a thing...

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[21-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/northeastern-college-student-deported-to-iran-despite-judges-order

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Northeastern College Student Deported to Iran Despite Judge’s Order
Some 100 people reportedly came out to demonstrate on his behalf outside of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) area of the airport for at least three hours on Monday.
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[21-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
the rule of law is dying in the US


[21-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
it's going to be a dictatorship in 2 years


[21-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
if trump gets re-elected


[21-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRqxc8ewnC4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRqxc8ewnC4
We Saved The City!
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[21-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
color me surprised that this has never been made political


[21-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
I was hoping there'd be a version like "We did it, Donald! We owned the libs!"


[21-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
eh, close enough


[21-Jan-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
pretty crappy though


[21-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
people say that stalinism is socialism, but that's like saying chinese voting is democracy


[21-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
stalinism is a twisted, warped mockery of socialism


[21-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
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[21-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
oh wow, this one's gonna go over a few heads


[21-Jan-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's like calling mcconnell an impartial juror


[21-Jan-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
> it's going to be a dictatorship in 2 years
> if trump gets re-elected
so 100% chance got it


[21-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a30284631/amish-sexual-abuse-incest-me-too/

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The Amish Keep to Themselves. And They’re Hiding a Horrifying Secret
A year of reporting—an exclusive partnership between Cosmo and Type Investigations—reveals a culture of incest, rape, and abuse.
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[21-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to be blunt here


[21-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very blunt


[21-Jan-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
What transcript https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1219698190129225728?s=21

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[21-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
**If your culture does not tell children what sex is and talk about sex happening then your culture will hav child rape going on day in, day out with nobody punished for it.**


[21-Jan-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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#ILikeBernie trends after Hillary Clinton says "nobody likes" Bern...
"Thanks for the motivation. Every time you trash him, I will give more," Los Angeles Chargers running back Justin Jackson tweeted.
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[21-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And crazy religious people are, virtually 100% of the time, rapists.


[21-Jan-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Saw that shit


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if Hillary is secretly a Bernie sis and did this as part of the plan


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  I kinda suspected that already; I wonder why belief in a deity does that to ppl?


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not belief in a deity.


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
or did you mean religion including cult of personalities?


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the social structure.


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
k


[21-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you create an authority based around the idea that people in it are pure and good


[21-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
and you use societal taboos to exclude what is not pure and good


[21-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
then it is in the interests of people to tolerate and hide bad behavior, especially of those at the top.


[21-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you tolerate and hide that behavior, it increases in prevalence.


[21-Jan-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
> use societal taboos to exclude what is not pure and good
Pretty sure that just makes those taboos more "desirable". What's a term for that?


[21-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, this intense focus on purity means that victims are seen as impure and bad.


[21-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forbidden Fruit.


[21-Jan-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
was hoping for a less christian-centric one but ty


[21-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The end result is that you hav people lining up behind abusers and decrying victims for speaking out.


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your society needs to accept that nobody is pure and perfect.


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your society needs to accept that sex is okay and not dirty.


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to actually prevent rape.


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
> And even on the day when, at 14, she says she was cornered in the pantry by one of her brothers and raped on the sink, and then felt a gush and saw blood running down her leg, and cleaned up alone while he walked away, and gingerly placed her underwear in a bucket of cold water before going back to her chores. A friend helped her realize years later: While being raped, she had probably suffered a miscarriage.


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
wow, that actually happens?


[21-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[21-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Miscarriages early in are just blood and some tissue coming out, usually while pissing.


[21-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Crow#5457
I mean rape causing miscarriage


[21-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
80% of fertilizations lead to an early miscarriage.


[21-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rape would loosen the area


[21-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so the miscarriage would come out as the vagina is expelling various stuff put in during sex


[21-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Queefing right during and after, and many minutes later is expulsion of cum


[21-Jan-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[21-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing in the article is that many of these girls don't even know basic anatomical terms


[21-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
how do you describe a sexual assault when the only words you know about sex are manhood and womanhood?


[21-Jan-20 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[21-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/keynesianeconomics.asp

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Keynesian Economics Definition
Keynesian Economics is an economic theory of total spending in the economy and its effects on output and inflation developed by John Maynard Keynes.
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[21-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
> Keynesian economics is an economic theory of total spending in the economy and its effects on output and inflation. Keynesian economics was developed by the British economist John Maynard Keynes during the 1930s in an attempt to understand the Great Depression. Keynes advocated for increased government expenditures and lower taxes to stimulate demand and pull the global economy out of the depression.
> 
> Subsequently, Keynesian economics was used to refer to the concept that optimal economic performance could be achieved—and economic slumps prevented—by influencing aggregate demand through activist stabilization and economic intervention policies by the government. Keynesian economics is considered a "demand-side" theory that focuses on changes in the economy over the short run.


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
apparently some people were comparing trump's policies to keynesian economics


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The key difference is Keynesians believe you need to actually spend money


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
but it turns out trump's only doing some weird half-keynesian thing


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives prefer austerity because it destroys the economy.


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which keeps them in power.


[21-Jan-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
because he's massively increasing spending, but also cutting taxes


[21-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
apparently obama's policies were compared to keynesian


[21-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
trump is spending a shitload of money though


[21-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
just on stuff like bribing farmers


[21-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans turn to Keynesian economics only to justify bribing special interests


[21-Jan-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
like the MIC


[21-Jan-20 09:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie i assume this report has no effect on amish rape and this will continue forever


[21-Jan-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Change is slowly being made and most of those involved hav already faced some really weak measures of justice.


[21-Jan-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/opinion/republican-economics.html

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Opinion | The Economics of Donald J. Keynes
Austerity for Democrats, stimulus for Republicans.
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[21-Jan-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie the victims are going to screwed for the rest of their lives given it's a closed community, and the offender's friends and loved ones will likely be vengeful


[21-Jan-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
It's the same thing that happens with JWs


[21-Jan-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jan-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
These are a time investment to watch


[21-Jan-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
But I recommend you watch them all


[21-Jan-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
there's an interesting line there.


[21-Jan-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```And she never revealed her abuse to anyone, except a cousin and her father himself, when he asked her, point blank, if her brothers were touching her. (The next time he asked, she lied, fearful he would beat the boys, as he often did.)```


[21-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't even stop at rape.


[21-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
just pure 'might makes right' philosophy, coupled with 'back to the roots' religion. Only the strong survive, indeed.


[21-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, only daddy gets to rape the daughter


[21-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
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Lol, instead of listing Bernie in their poll, @abc7newsbayarea counted his votes under "Other." And he's winning 😂
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[21-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
huh, bernie is listed as "Other"


[21-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't leave him off the poll


[21-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
they just didn't put his name on it


[21-Jan-20 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
For fun, here's an overview of the "unity" of modern Arabic in little example excercises done for us by an Egyptian in another Discord I'm in, we fed them some English lines for translation into a collection of Arabic phrases:


[21-Jan-20 10:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
English: "How are you this morning?"

Qur'anic Arabic: "Kayfa [ha'luka/ha'luki] fi hatha al yaom?"
"""Modern Standard Arabic""": "Kayfa [ha'luka/ha'luki] sabahhul yaom?"
Levantine (spare me, Fenia): "Shu [halak/halik] hal yohm?"
Gulf: "Esh el haal belyoum?"
Egyptian: "['Amel/'amla] eh el-naharda?"
Sae'idi: "Ehl haal nahardeh?"


[21-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's stunning that the democrats demand more evidence, That;s not how trials work, you are to have all evidence up front and not presented duringthe trial!"


[21-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
litterally a republican defense just now


[21-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
this is some good branding


[21-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
reminds me of how tesla doesn't mark its model 3 cars as "Model 3"


[21-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
it just has the tesla T logo on it


[21-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
it marks Model S and Model X, but not Model 3


[21-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
basically, the idea is to get the car itself to be recognizable without outright stating its name


[21-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
not sure what the exact term is


[21-Jan-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicann defense: bitch bitch bitch moan moan bitch moan


[21-Jan-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
proprietary eponyms I think


[21-Jan-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"these subpeonas were invalid because we said they were"


[21-Jan-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Did the democrats try arresting donald trump, no? Well that means he;s immune"


[21-Jan-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What is Klobuchar's evolution


[21-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, wasn't there a poll that showed that the majority of republican voters want policies like what bernie has, but they want a republican president to do them?


[21-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure


[21-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing I usually talk about is the actual election results in 2018 at the state level


[21-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
voters in red states vote for blue policies but red candidates.


[21-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Legal weed, legal abortions, expanded voting rights...and Republican gov't


[21-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, is there an article or something about that?


[21-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was part of a 538 article examining things


[21-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
you'd hav to hunt for it


[21-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
creative rebranding is in order, hmm.


[21-Jan-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
How likely is it for the Republican party to go the Bernie route in my lifetime?


[21-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
0%


[21-Jan-20 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
lol, republicans won't go bernie


[21-Jan-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason people want Republican governance is racism


[21-Jan-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's policies would crush racism.


[21-Jan-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
@jlun2, it's not the republican party that will go bernie, it's the republicans jumping ship and turning democrat that will go for bernie


[21-Jan-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
leaving the republican party as an empty, crumbling husk


[21-Jan-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
that's what happened in california


[21-Jan-20 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
it's what's currently happening in texas


[21-Jan-20 10:40 PM] jlun2#8758
k


[21-Jan-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Get me the CEO of racism


[21-Jan-20 10:46 PM] dissociativity#8391

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[21-Jan-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
@dissociativity you don't talk here much anymore


[21-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
welp

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[21-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No surprise, but still welp


[21-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess McConnel bribed and blakkmailed well.


[21-Jan-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7913455/Jeff-Bezos-phone-hacked-2018-receiving-WhatsApp-Saudi-Arabian-crown-prince.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small

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Jeff Bezos phone 'hacked' after receiving WhatsApp from Saudi Arabia
The Guardian reported on Tuesday that the Amazon billionaire received a message from  Mohammed Bin Salman's personal phone number which contained a malicious file.
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[21-Jan-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jan-20 10:54 PM] illumnious#7938
by Indians


[21-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, is honahue ever coming back


[21-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[21-Jan-20 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Dunno. I'll ask him


[21-Jan-20 10:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or tell him he's been asked about


[21-Jan-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I am and always will be a racist, everyone in my family is a racist. We're so racist that we've watched every single Nascar race and we all drive manuals too, that's how racist we are 😎. Some races are superior to others, mainly the F1 races, nothing like a good ol' race war. I love being a racist around everyone I see but not everyone appreciates the power of my Mustang, one time I got kicked out of a restaurant for telling everyone that I'm a racist . I wish more people were as racist as I am. Upvote if you're a true racist.


[21-Jan-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
@DevField


[21-Jan-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
@jlun2, one misconception you seem to have is that what is meant when people turn "more conservative" when they grow older is that typically, people become less flexible in their thinking, tied back to what they thought when they were younger


[21-Jan-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
you aren't gonna become like the baby boomers since you grew up on fast-paced technology changes (boomers seem to have contempt for new technology), belief in equality, etc, your values when you are the same age as the boomers will be tied to what you experienced growing up


[21-Jan-20 11:02 PM] jlun2#8758
hmm alright ty


[21-Jan-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
When I read articles of "gen z becoming more conservative" i get a huge sense of dread because of the former paragraph


[21-Jan-20 11:03 PM] DevField#5162
:notification:


[21-Jan-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
like they're going to become mini-trumps and I'm like fuck me


[21-Jan-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah that only happens if you're a billionaire to a triumpian family


[21-Jan-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
future 50's PSAs will have the moral: dont be a trump!


[21-Jan-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
assuming there's no trump dynasty in the US


[21-Jan-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can dream


[21-Jan-20 11:37 PM] jlun2#8758
this echo chamber makes it believable that there will be a trump dynasty


[21-Jan-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
He can very well win reelection


[21-Jan-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Even if the vote wasn't being blatantly rigged, remember that Florida was able to successfully implement a poll tax which will prevent hundreds of thousands of black people from voting this November


[21-Jan-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Which may be enough to swing it in his favor


[21-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also remember, millenials on two jobs can't afford to take a day off to vote, but retired boomers can :^)


[21-Jan-20 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll remain cautiously optimistic


[21-Jan-20 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie and his brand of democrats have faced big challenges before


[21-Jan-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They've got stamina


[21-Jan-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Stamina doesn't matter, it's just how "likeable" you seem


[21-Jan-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Plus Trump can't last a fucking minute in the bedroom :^)


[21-Jan-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that Stormy Daniels expose


[21-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clinton trying really hard to make Trump a two term president atm


[21-Jan-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
She called his dick like a mushroom from mario


[21-Jan-20 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, if Bernie and his posse have proven themselves just unwilling and unafraid to die, their "likeability" will likely increase


[21-Jan-20 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie's already seen as a pretty likeable candidate, and most reliable polls admit that he's ahead in the race


[21-Jan-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As an idea that i've floated before, Bernie could use his campaign money to fund some projects and undertakings that could be crucial to boosting his chances


[21-Jan-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as hiring a fleet of buses to take poor urban southerners to voter registration centers, thus circumventing the barrier the GOP put in place


[21-Jan-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
That won't help if they can't pay the poll tax


[21-Jan-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Or if they can't get off work etc.


[21-Jan-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can millenials afford getting a single day off work to vote?


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they book a month ahead of time


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless US labor laws are that abysmal, they could justify their leave with that


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But then half of them will get denied


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Not even then, if other people are taking off


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't just leave the shop without staff


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone will need to cover their shifts etc.


[21-Jan-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 yes, it really is that fucking bad


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Business owners have a big role to play in voter suppression


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
its;s why a lot of peoplehave been trying to make election day a national holiday


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't quite think Trump's chances of being reelected would be that high if facing Bernie tbf


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
By denying time off to vote they can assure that the vote is biased in their favor


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Because old retired boomers vote republican


[21-Jan-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
young zoomers and millenials vote democrat


[21-Jan-20 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just... really don't wanna lose hope man


[21-Jan-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
This is a fully aware decision by a vast number of businesses in the US


[21-Jan-20 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't wanna wait until all boomers are dead to see the world change once and for all


[21-Jan-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
It's changing now


[21-Jan-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
By catching fire, that is


[21-Jan-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The prospects for society are turning for the worst
The environment is suffering and might not be reversed


[21-Jan-20 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just... can't afford to panic


[21-Jan-20 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Trump wins reelection, things might as well go from bleak to bleakest


[21-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/health/wuhan-coronavirus-first-us-case-cdc-bn/index.html

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First US case of Wuhan coronavirus confirmed by CDC
The United States has its first confirmed case of a new virus that appeared in Wuhan, China, last month, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday. The coronavirus has already sickened hundreds and killed six people in Asia.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200121150614-providence-regional-medical-center-file-super-tease.jpg


[21-Jan-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"He arrived at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on January 15, before any health screenings for the Wuhan coronavirus began at US airports. He sought medical care on January 19. The CDC and Washington state are now tracing the people he was in contact with to see if he might have spread the disease to someone else."


[21-Jan-20 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And oh i forgot about this new virus thingy


[21-Jan-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good the new black plague is here


[21-Jan-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. US business owners are mostly old white men


[21-Jan-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bingo!


[21-Jan-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
makes me wonder what happens when they die; liquidate their business, or sell to some other old white dude?


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they started their fortunes sometime around the 50's-70's and then started cock blocking everyone else


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their board of directors probably replaces them


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] jlun2#8758
do small businesses even have those


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
sole proprietorships mostly pass the business onto their kids or trusted relatives


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Americans need to learn how to go on strike


[21-Jan-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 doesn't work if there are no unions


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
the anti-union sentiment here is very very strong


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
to the point where people who could only possibly be benefited by union membership


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
are its most active political opponents


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
my story here the other day home depot employee is a typical example


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  i assume that applies to younger ppl too?


[21-Jan-20 11:57 PM] jlun2#8758
like that anti commie scare


[21-Jan-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
younger people know they're getting fucked


[21-Jan-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
they know unionization is good, but there has to be political will for unionization to occur


[21-Jan-20 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think it does, but younger Americans are getting increasingly radicalized onto various different ideologies


[21-Jan-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
younger people are super pro union actually, but all the odds for it are not in our favor


[21-Jan-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law

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Right-to-work law
In the context of U.S. labor politics, "right-to-work laws" refers to state laws that prohibit union security agreements between companies and labor unions. Under these laws, employees in unionized workplaces are banned from negotiating contracts which require all members who...


[22-Jan-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

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At-will employment
At-will employment is a term used in U.S. labor law for contractual relationships in which an employee can be dismissed by an employer for any reason (that is, without having to establish "just cause" for termination), and without warning, as long as the reason is not illegal...


[22-Jan-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
at-will employment laws are nowhere near as catastrophic as right-to-work laws


[22-Jan-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
the former would not even occur if the latter did not


[22-Jan-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's gotta be some sort of discontent and distrust among Americans for all the shady deals and plotting that corporations are doing when faced with actual leftist threats


[22-Jan-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but they still exist and in tandem with right to work it;s a fucking disaster


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume by this point that America is cursed, and ppl there are doomed to poverty


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It just can't be that all these massive pieces of news fall on deaf ears


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 there is, and it's channeled through a principle called BSABSVR


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
basically, everyone in political office is fucking you, so just vote for the people who are honest about fucking you (the republicans)


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's gotta be some kind of discontent to be exploited


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the idea


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] jlun2#8758
that's what young ppl do too?


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
not nearly as much


[22-Jan-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need to vote for the lions eating your ass party


[22-Jan-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re way more honest about eating your ass then those other guys


[22-Jan-20 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/fur-con-arrest-san-jose-video-furries-14990602.php

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Video: San Jose furry convention attendees help make domestic viol...
A group of costumed FurCon attendees helped San Jose police make a domestic violence arrest, the  San Jose Mercury News reported.   
 The incident occurred Friday night, reports the paper, outside the Marriott Hotel downtown. The area was filled with people who were attendin...
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/51/10/77/10784707/3/rawImage.jpg


[22-Jan-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
:furries:


[22-Jan-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  if you ignore politics and environment, the newsfeed gets a lot less bleak


[22-Jan-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
#politics is depression sim


[22-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
you cannot possibly ignore politics or environment


[22-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
they are inextricably linked


[22-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
there is not one news piece that you could use and say "this has no political connection whatsoever"


[22-Jan-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the most alienated ones try to get used to it?


[22-Jan-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
no, the most alienated ones kill themselves


[22-Jan-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/youth-suicide-rates-are-on-the-rise-in-the-u-s

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Youth suicide rates are on the rise in the U.S.
No racial or ethnic group has been spared in this rising rate among young people, federal data suggests.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2018/06/AdobeStock_149932098-1024x768.jpeg


[22-Jan-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume by now it implicitly means boomers dont commit suicide much at all


[22-Jan-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
oh they do too


[22-Jan-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
there are lots that have been unable to afford their meds or run into expensive healthcare issues or whatever disgusting thing fucked them


[22-Jan-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and they just off themselves to spare themselves the trouble


[22-Jan-20 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, this is how the good boomers die


[22-Jan-20 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So we're left with the shitty ones that caused the meme


[22-Jan-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rich ones meanwhile sit on ivory pillars made form the bones of those they murdered tog et where they are


[22-Jan-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
when I was in school, my friend's dad killed himself a week after he got in a car crash that killed a couple other people because he was anticipating spending the rest of his life in jail


[22-Jan-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I was told later he wrote a suicide note saying his reasoning before he shot himself, but I was 6, I didn't know any better at the time


[22-Jan-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
can I just say, we live in a society


[22-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
live is a strong term


[22-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
survive or subsist, perhaps


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad hasn't committed suicide but he's made cries about doing so because medically, he's in a lot of pain


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yo about Florida


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://lawandcrime.com/civil-rights/federal-judge-declares-gop-poll-tax-unconstitutional-says-state-cant-restrict-right-to-vote-based-on-ability-to-pay/

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/civil-rights/federal-judge-declares-gop-poll-tax-unconstitutional-says-state-cant-restrict-right-to-vote-based-on-ability-to-pay/
Federal Judge Declares GOP ‘Poll Tax’ Unconstitutional, Says S...
A federal court in Florida has ruled that it is unconstitutional to deny individuals with prior felony convictions the right to vote based on their inability to pay fees and fines. Friday's decision restores the right to vote for plaintiffs who otherwise would be eligible to ...
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/GettyImages-108645125221.jpg


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that was october


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
they appealed it to the florida supreme court


[22-Jan-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
supreme court overturned the lower court's ruling


[22-Jan-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/16/its-2020-and-floridas-supreme-court-just-ruled-favor-poll-tax

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It's 2020 and Florida's Supreme Court Just Ruled in Favor of a Pol...
"Florida cannot violate the U.S. Constitution's protections. The right to vote cannot be contingent on the ability to pay."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/let_my_people_vote_0_0.png


[22-Jan-20 12:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God damnit


[22-Jan-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the florida supreme court is stacked in republican favor, of course they overturned it


[22-Jan-20 12:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How long can they keep resisting demographic pressure through underhanded manipulation? American citizens are getting increasingly aware there's something wrong, the main GOP gerontocratic base of support in the baby boomers is withering away, cracks are beginning to show


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] jlun2#8758
> Free money for Millennials? That might cause a few Boomers to choke on their (non-avocado) toast. Willetts is intent on persuading them that it’s only fair. He reminds me of the famous bumper sticker: “Be nice to your kids: They choose your nursing home.”
I'm too poor for that and I want to choke my grandparents who have dementia


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter, libs were owned


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for as long as thyecan get away with it


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how long can they get away with it?


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] jlun2#8758
forever


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as thye hold power


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
if we lose these presidential and congressional elections, possibly forever


[22-Jan-20 12:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It can't go on forever, unless they just straight up coup the government and rip apart the constitution


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Badger


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
they _already did that_


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then why the fuck does no one seem to be angry?


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has violated the constitution multiple times now


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
there has been a slow-moving right-wing coup that has completely taken hold of the government over the past 20 years


[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/only-one-joke-comic.png?fit=1000%2C2759

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[22-Jan-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans are almost completely immune from any political consequences to anything anymore


[22-Jan-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are pissed, but we are also overwhelmed


[22-Jan-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
roy moore was a 30-something courting a 16 year old, still only barely lost the alabama race


[22-Jan-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
literal pedophiles and rapists get elected to office


[22-Jan-20 12:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  There's an infinite amount of boomers like a hydra


[22-Jan-20 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just... can't stand this chicanery anymore


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 honestly, at this point the best thing you can do is stay alive and vote no matter how bleak


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Find out what jobs are the most needed somewhere better


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope every day for news that mcconnell or trump fell down a flight of stairs head first


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] jlun2#8758
unless you're actually 80ish in that case rip


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Badger is brazilian


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
can't vote in the US anyway


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My country's future depends on what you guys do, in a way


[22-Jan-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
we know


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I have voted democrat in every election


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All do


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
my state legislature is still republican


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
I only voted because of 2016


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
the federal senate is still republican


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie getting elected could at least boost the Brazilian left's will to resist and kick off one pillar from Bolsonaro's ideology


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
the presidency and courts are all republican-controlled now


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
probably forever i assume


[22-Jan-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
trump has made hundreds of lifetime judge appointments, many people who had never even been in a courtroom before


[22-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of thme with hateful ideaologies that would get any lesser judge disbarred


[22-Jan-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
and the majority of who are grossly unqualified to sit as a judge


[22-Jan-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
to the point where the ABA has basically said "fuck you guys"


[22-Jan-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bar_Association)


[22-Jan-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now conservatives shit on the ABA.


[22-Jan-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hoo boy will it be fun when we get a Bernie type progressive and the ABA keeps shooting unqualified activist judges down from them.


[22-Jan-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God i just want republicans to fucking die


[22-Jan-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And all their international spawn


[22-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we all do!


[22-Jan-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
en masse


[22-Jan-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can't fucking take this anymore, Bolsonaro's finance minister recently ranted that poor people are the ones responsible for deforestation


[22-Jan-20 12:24 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought they just pass their ideologies to their kids


[22-Jan-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I joke not, Paulo Guedes has argued that in Davos


[22-Jan-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we nuke davos right now please?


[22-Jan-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
can we nuke Washington?


[22-Jan-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for the love of fuck, all of them are gathered in one place


[22-Jan-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  a search on "why dont we assassinate anymore gives results suggesting it doesnt solve underlying issue, and just makes the next ruler even more nuts


[22-Jan-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Our national currency value is nosediving at an alarming rate


[22-Jan-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
assassinations still happen, they just arent sniper based anymore


[22-Jan-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
subtlety goes farther with such thigs


[22-Jan-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i say subtle but then a physician ends up having 2 shots in the bakc of his head because he challenged big pharma


[22-Jan-20 12:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder how high are the chances of Bernie just getting offed on some republican's orders


[22-Jan-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably less likely


[22-Jan-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
security for presidents has beenn improved 10 fold for that very reason


[22-Jan-20 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, as a candidate


[22-Jan-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sabotage is more effective


[22-Jan-20 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, seriously


[22-Jan-20 12:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aubrey-huff-bernie-sanders-trump-2020-election-mlb-twitter-nra-guns-a9220321.html

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Former baseball player teaching children to shoot guns if Bernie S...
Aubrey Huff wore a Donald Trump shirt and posed with a bullet-ridden target: 'knowing how to effectively use a gun under socialism will be a must'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2019/11/27/09/aubrey-huff-2011-giants.jpg


[22-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy gets the death penalty!


[22-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy is not operating on trumps orders and i;m pretty sure he got arrested


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] jlun2#8758
is he Gen X


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] jlun2#8758
or younger


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s redneck


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s a whole different world


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rednecks dont operate on the laws of generational dynamics


[22-Jan-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you hav to realize, respect for the ABA is a liberal position.


[22-Jan-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rednecks are pretty much fixed in time to the confederate war


[22-Jan-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual positions of the parties basically amount to this:


[22-Jan-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans: Nothing matters as long as businesses and white people win


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.axios.com/millennials-vote-socialism-capitalism-decline-60c8a6aa-5353-45c4-9191-2de1808dc661.html>
prob gen x then

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[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Judges don't want to be lapdogs to politicians


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats: If I don't get paid a shitton by X company, well then, I'll just hav to listen to experts


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why you get Kavanaugh and Gorsuch bucking their label


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They will go "Fuck you, I do what I want" if they feel the need to.


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are Democracy/Meritocracy/Basic common sense-neutral


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So there might be some glimmer of hope in the judicial system


[22-Jan-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not care about any standards or processes or any of that.


[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Something tells me the GOP will try to curb their power


[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want whatever gets them their policy ideal.


[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Update.

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[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop is already trying this


[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I have hope for the future, pretty much 0 for the next 10 years tho


[22-Jan-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why gorsuch and kavenaugh are there in the firs tplace


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
so i assume biden is going to win


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is a bumbling idiot


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden's odds are sorta unfavorable iirc


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
he could easily light his own campaign on fire


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i give it 2 days


[22-Jan-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The DNC's base of support is in big cities


[22-Jan-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which already skew towards less cringe candidates like Bernie and Warren


[22-Jan-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden rails off soemthing stupid every 2 days or so


[22-Jan-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie getting the nomination might be easier than him beating Trump


[22-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The DNC is having real power struggles now because of the Sanders support within the party


[22-Jan-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people in charge want Sanders to not be an option.


[22-Jan-20 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile sanders support is much stronger than it was in 2016


[22-Jan-20 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which makes knocking him down much much much harder


[22-Jan-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, also he's a consistent fighter


[22-Jan-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He keeps going for another round despite being beaten


[22-Jan-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No-Burn Bernie


[22-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is effectively the leader of the Democrats in the Senate


[22-Jan-20 12:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  sounds great, but the spectre of Sander's supporters being young folks and said folks not voting being a meme by now may be difficult to get rid of


[22-Jan-20 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's also pretty good at responding to media accusations


[22-Jan-20 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or at least his campaign machine is


[22-Jan-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just surprised Bloomberg is getting some support.


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well bloomberg funneled the economy of a small country into advertising


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is running ads like crazy


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's even running ads here


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In *Montana*


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw one of his ads on adult swim th eother night


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does Bloomberg have any appeal?


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s richer biden basically


[22-Jan-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do people like him?


[22-Jan-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his appeal is cash


[22-Jan-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also runs a news sitre


[22-Jan-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People remember him for the big soda ban, which is actually a good idea.


[22-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sketchy science in Super-Size Me (ie the effects on the filmmaker) aside


[22-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, I'm sure a month of McDonald's ruined your liver and other stuff and not your previous cocaine and alcohol addictions


[22-Jan-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt god awful but he isnt a good fit for president


[22-Jan-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he mostly joined because biden was beggining to buckle under pressure


[22-Jan-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the dnc needed a corporate back up


[22-Jan-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then buttgieg started fucking owning biden in terms of fund raising


[22-Jan-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/barstool-sports-settles-with-labor-board-over-anti-union-tweets

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[22-Jan-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely still going to abuse employees though


[22-Jan-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh always.


[22-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
```I just... can't afford to panic
If Trump wins reelection, things might as well go from bleak to bleakest```


[22-Jan-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
embrace futility :3


[22-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/479263-biden-campaign-releases-4-minute-video-to-explain-what-really-happened-in

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Former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign on Tuesday released a video purporting to explain “what really happened in Ukraine” as the campaign pushes back on expected GOP arguments during President Trump's impeachment trial
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[22-Jan-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1219707563224305667

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[22-Jan-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please clap


[22-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[22-Jan-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still polling higher than Jeb! did


[22-Jan-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
wasn't the please clap thing taken out of context anyway


[22-Jan-20 02:32 AM] Treascair#7785
Yeah, it was


[22-Jan-20 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 that wasn't a meme btw. That's a legitimate suggestion.


[22-Jan-20 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
hoping that you vote for someone and something changes in some way that's beneficial to you in your lifetime... Yeah.


[22-Jan-20 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it's good to grow out of that.


[22-Jan-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/jeb-bush-please-clap-mocking-lol-clapping-gif-7921509

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[22-Jan-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
he told them not to clap beforehand I think


[22-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm still quietly hoping that if Sanders or Warren get in, they'll grab, like, Yang, AOC, everyone else that's younger and savvy and go "I can't do this on my own/you have better ways to do things than I do, go to work, let's fix this shit"


[22-Jan-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
ofc


[22-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if Sanders died in May 2021 he wouldn't have a whole party to fall in line with what he wants


[22-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Please


[22-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any "too old" argument is dumb


[22-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For any candidate.


[22-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
not really


[22-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
senility and alzheimer's is always a concern


[22-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, which is why there are doctors doing checks


[22-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(not like we can trust those, but, well...)


[22-Jan-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't really care, if they croak there's a whole line


[22-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
the problem isn't if they croak, the problem is if they lose their minds


[22-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
we have clear and robust systems in place in the event of the death of a president


[22-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
we have an easily subverted/ignored amendment in the case of mental degradation


[22-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Functionally the 25th allows for a legal coup.


[22-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what else is "Sorry Mr./Mrs./Ms. President, you aren't in charge anymore"


[22-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 25th was literally designed to be easily subverted/ignored


[22-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was created based on the Caine Mutiny film


[22-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A film about an absolutely fukking nuts WWII captain who ends up doing a huge witchhunt over missing strawberries that were actually eaten by the cooks.


[22-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the sailors rightfully relieve him of command


[22-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then at the end the lesson is that actually they were totes wrong because of some technicalities and only got off from charge of mutiny because of corruption


[22-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except that lesson makes as much fukking sense as the one in Princess Spike


[22-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, scratch that


[22-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's literally the same lesson


[22-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That if you do exactly what you should do given what you know, you're wrong because you were technically kinda corrupt in doing it on accident.


[22-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then that film became very popular and then congress was like WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING IN THE CONSTITUTION JUST IN CASE THAT HAPPENS WITH THE PRESIDENT


[22-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know it's kind of different because Trump but like


[22-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if he started babbling incoherently and shitting himself tomorrow


[22-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then nobody would invoke the 25th amendment


[22-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it lasted a long time and he was confined to bed like Wilson


[22-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it is literally designed after the idea that it's a bad thing if people use it


[22-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, people would run things for him


[22-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta understand the mindset here, Its


[22-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Revealing the president to be incapable is seen as basically destroying the country


[22-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the mindset of the Caine Mutiny and 25th amendment is that if smart, sane people overturn who is technically the leader just because he's gone off his fukking rokker, that's a horribly bad thing that's unamerican.


[22-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
DO realize


[22-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 25th isn't there *so that the president can be removed*


[22-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's there *so that there's a specified process nobody would ever do to prevent the president ever being removed*


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely at some point there's a line


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's there so that when liberals who say controversial things like "a president who literally cannot understand policy questions should be removed from office by force" start getting angry, people can point and say "look look, there's a rule on it! We can do it!"


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, there isn't.


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a King George III scenario


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire point.


[22-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to provide a fake line so people like you believe it's real.


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav you seen the Caine Mutiny?


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It was invoked when W had his colonoscopy


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_several_ colonoscopies


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is literally Princess Spike but for navy officers


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
with the captain as Princess Twilight


[22-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
except worse


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really boring film with just this guy going mad as people go "okay we've gotta do this"


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it switches to a trial


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
In that trial, it looks like they're about to get rekt


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the captain takes the stand and starts raving about strawberries


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they get acquitted


[22-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
then for some reason there's another like, 15 minutes of movie


[22-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a bunch of guys start pontificating about how RIGHTFULLY WE SHOULD BE IN JAIL


[22-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the end of the movie is anvilicious about how it was *wrong* to remove a crazy paranoid motherfukker from power


[22-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
said crazy paranoid motherfukker endangered the ship three times


[22-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a story that if you told it today would hav an entirely different anvilicious aesop in the exact opposite direction.


[22-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a film from 1954.


[22-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[22-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But do realize, that's a film that inspired part of the constitution.


[22-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the boomer mindset.


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Boomer mindset is that if you are on a WWII ship


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the captain is a fukking lunatic


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
who gets people killed for no reason


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and delays the ship


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This would have been the Silents mindset but ok


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and starts looking thru everyone's clothes for a key to missing stuff people told him they ate


[22-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
that if you do ANYTHING to oppose him


[22-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are a terrible person who should be executed.


[22-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the amendment was done a while later


[22-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
adopted 1967


[22-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is squarely boomer territory.


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's when the early ones were adults.


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The oldest Boomer would have been 21.


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But think about it this way


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is of the Silents


[22-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
what part the Boomers most wanted


[22-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also do realize


[22-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Trump* was 21, @Itsthinking


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is a Silent.


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never seen this sort of Boomer mindset played straight, it was parodied in Dr. Strangelove


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is basically "Boomer who will be ineffective 1980's neoliberal" material


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden was at the very end of the Silent generation, but he is a Silent.


[22-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was born before the war ended.


[22-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, sorry to say, but it's the real mindset.


[22-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have just been thinking about the ineffectiveness of the American left in the 1980's


[22-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've not seen too much about it


[22-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen a few explanations that amount to "no charisma" or "AIDS"


[22-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
AIDS if anything should've propelled liberals


[22-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan was saying that kids with AIDS shouldn't go to school


[22-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the scientists and doctors were like "wtf"


[22-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then Rock Hudson.


[22-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem was Reagan had tons of charisma and was a bit Third Way


[22-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And The Band Played On is basically a Bill Clinton fluff piece but it's worth watching/reading.


[22-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would steal liberal ideas when it was convenient


[22-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The drinking age is the big thing.


[22-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals were like "hey maybe we should set a federal drinking age"


[22-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives were like "no that's a violation of states' rights"


[22-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan at first was like "fine let's just incentivize states"


[22-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but liberals were pissed cause random states would hav low ages and people just smuggled alcohol over borders


[22-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Reagan pulled the pro politician move


[22-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he sided with liberals using a tactic that honestly would've probably been unconstitutional if the founders had expected it


[22-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
use federal funds to blakkmail states into aligning with a federal mandate


[22-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, as a liberal, how do you respond to that?


[22-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you fight it, you're fighting actual progress and you just lose support because it's the common sense (if really questionable in terms of precedent) move


[22-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You look just contrarian and partisan


[22-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you go with it, you're saddling up next to Reagan.


[22-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when he does shitty things the next day, you find you're still next to him unable to get off.


[22-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, everyone's a boomer and the economy is wonderful and racists want blakks in jail


[22-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
How does a liberal actually improve society any more under those conditions, @Itsthinking?


[22-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't, but also pick people like Dukakis.


[22-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No liberal accomplishments mean you just sort of fade away


[22-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it didn't matter who was pikked.


[22-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, you've got Bill Clinton in office


[22-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bill Clinton is not a liberal.


[22-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a conservative.


[22-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically any time racists asked for shit, Bill would giv them all they wanted


[22-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar tactic as Reagan with the exception that instead of massive conservative stuff with bones thrown to liberals in crazy ways


[22-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was massive neutral stuff with bones thrown to ultra conservatives


[22-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, you underestimate racism, @Itsthinking


[22-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals havn't really been in power in America for a long, long time.


[22-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, Democrats hav been in office, but most Democrats weren't liberals.


[22-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bakk in the days of Reagan, Republican and Democrat were just mildly different flavors of moderately-conservative.


[22-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans if you wanted "racist", etc.


[22-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not like, completely racist vs. not


[22-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
just "double the racism"


[22-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party of today is unrecognizable to Democrats from the time of Reagan.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrecognizable to ones of the time of GW Bush.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is a relic.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
25 years ago, a Democrat would cringe at being called a liberal.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
10 years ago, a socialist.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party is desperately trying to hold on to the Boomer mentality.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's failing.


[22-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or "progressive"


[22-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, as to why an 80s liberal couldn't get anywhere


[22-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because it was a 2-party town


[22-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and both parties were run by conservatives.


[22-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/479292-coronavirus-cases-in-china-rise-to-440-with-nine-dead

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Coronavirus cases in China rise to 440 with nine dead
Nine people are dead in China as several Asian countries are struggling to blunt the spread of a newly identified coronavirus.
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[22-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck, this is getting _really_ bad.


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is what, double the amount of confirmed cases and three new deaths since a few hours ago?


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are entering a point where no new preventative/curative drugs will likely be made for a few years


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was researching the pandemic containment measures and we are not prepared at all


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the funding isn't there


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it costs a lot of money to research, and curing things doesn't reward you much


[22-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[22-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Huge population explosions around the world


[22-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our medicine meanwhile is lagging behind


[22-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism has failed at producing new cures.


[22-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ebola vaccine happened, at least.


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if we incentivized creating cures by price controlling drugs that help to maintain conditions


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, "Insulin is this price, do something else to make money."


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wouldn't like that.


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not happening.


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders might.


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, he's not in office yet.


[22-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and CNN will do its darndest to make sure he never is.


[22-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a threat to the planet.


[22-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't fucking get it, do they


[22-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're doing the same shit they did to Trump


[22-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On the flip side, the GOP has the hubris of 2016 Dems.


[22-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just keep ignoring the last three years of elections.


[22-Jan-20 04:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.vg247.com/2020/01/19/joe-biden-video-games-little-creeps/

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Joe Biden calls Silicon Valley game developers "little creeps" who...
Joe Biden called game developers he met with during his time at the White House "creeps," "righteous," and "arrogant".
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[22-Jan-20 04:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gamers, Rise up🎮


[22-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN gets it, Its


[22-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were never interested in putting "Democrats" in charge


[22-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want moderates in charge.


[22-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want Bill Clinton and George W Bush alternating every 8 years.


[22-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes for better ratings.


[22-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It keeps the money rolling.


[22-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Midknight#9798
honestly, i imagine a fair number of game devs *are* little creeps. Lots of T&A in AAA titles these days. And not all of it's ladylike. IYKWIM. :yay:


[22-Jan-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japanese devs are just compensating in the worst ways


[22-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though really this decade we will find that the East/West distinction might evaporate in game design.


[22-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, Eurojank will always exist, as it has for decades.


[22-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eurojank really is some fun stuff.


[22-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a general rule, people are creeps


[22-Jan-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's nothing special about most groups of people


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
particularly not game devs


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is just finding a reason to hate them.


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump would say a similar thing


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie would say something like "The creepy people are the bosses pushing crunch and crushing unions"


[22-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one likes the current state.


[22-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd like to reiterate that Barstool Sports _made a fake unionization campaign in order to monitor employees who were interested in unionizing_


[22-Jan-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
um, isn't that super mega illegal


[22-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Very much so.


[22-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All they ended up getting was a slap on the wrist.


[22-Jan-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ain't no one gonna seriously punish companies.


[22-Jan-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
They're considered worth too much.


[22-Jan-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or we've never caught on to scaling punishment per the wealth of the individual being punished like some countries do


[22-Jan-20 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
When you're a millionaire even, a hundred dollar parking fine has a much lower over all effect than if you are only barely scratching by.


[22-Jan-20 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, it;s like that by design as a control device so the rich can control the lower class through fines


[22-Jan-20 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wont change unless the god class loses it;s monetary power to influence politics


[22-Jan-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fines are nothing to the rich, they;re pay to win increments for them.meanwhile for the lower class it;s a control device to keep them in line and siphon more money off them if they get too uppity against their betters


[22-Jan-20 05:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why boomers must reign so that they can keep their god status


[22-Jan-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old news


[22-Jan-20 06:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479291-senate-fail-to-get-deal-to-speed-up-fight-over-impeachment-rules

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Senate fails to get deal to speed up fight over impeachment rules
Senate leaders failed, at least for now, to reach a deal Tuesday night to speed up votes on amendments to the impeachment trial rules.  Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) floated the idea of stack
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[22-Jan-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/nfofetznm8c41.jpg

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[22-Jan-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Oof


[22-Jan-20 07:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[22-Jan-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Objectively violating the rules of the Senate.


[22-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Treascair#7785
I want Cruz to be arrested by the Sergeant At Arms for that violation.


[22-Jan-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479298-roberts-admonishes-house-managers-trump-lawyers-after-heated-exchange

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Roberts admonishes House managers, Trump lawyers after heated exchange
Chief Justice John Roberts warned the House impeachment managers and President Trump’s lawyers early Wednesday morning to keep their tone civil after their arguments in the Senate impeachment trial became heated and perso
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[22-Jan-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479296-senate-adopts-rules-for-trump-trial

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Senate Republicans muscle through rules for Trump trial
Senate Republicans forced through a resolution establishing the rules for President Trump’s impeachment trial in the early morning hours Wednesday, rejecting Democrats' demands for additional witnesses and documents at the outset of
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_012220getty.jpg


[22-Jan-20 08:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real question is now, how will trump's lawyers manage to botch this up?


[22-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Midknight#9798
they've already basically admitted to everything by going for the "but it's not *impeachable*" defense


[22-Jan-20 08:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they've also had temper fits apparently


[22-Jan-20 08:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
directly in the senate too. That doesnt look good for them


[22-Jan-20 09:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
leave it to trump to hire lawyers with just as short a fuse as him


[22-Jan-20 09:00 AM] Midknight#9798
well, nobody who wants to have a CAT (Career After Trump) will work for him, so


[22-Jan-20 09:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump really only hires those he can throw under a bus using blackmail now anyway


[22-Jan-20 09:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479294-senate-blocks-push-to-subpoena-bolton-in-impeachment-trial

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Senate blocks push to subpoena Bolton in impeachment trial
Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to include a deal on former national security adviser John Bolton's testimony in the impeachment trial rules.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/boltonjohn_020719upi_lead.jpg


[22-Jan-20 09:06 AM] Midknight#9798
#so?wereyoureallysurprisedbythis?


[22-Jan-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[22-Jan-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
senate republicans are in full coverup mode right now


[22-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Midknight#9798
the problem is they're digging to try and hide the body in their front yard, with tv cameras rolling


[22-Jan-20 09:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Jan-20 09:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re getting impatient and sloppy


[22-Jan-20 09:09 AM] Midknight#9798
the fact that it might still work... god people are stupid


[22-Jan-20 09:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might work to keep trump in the office but people are still witnessing this mess of a trial


[22-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Midknight#9798
oh i know trump's not getting turfed out of office by the senate


[22-Jan-20 09:10 AM] Midknight#9798
i'm looking towards november


[22-Jan-20 09:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this trial will be talked about for years to come and it will infuriate republicans because they just want to sweep it iunder the rug


[22-Jan-20 09:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope november provides a much needed power shift


[22-Jan-20 09:11 AM] Midknight#9798
The Grand Old Coverup


[22-Jan-20 09:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast that mcconnel dies via head first dive down a flight of stairs


[22-Jan-20 09:13 AM] Midknight#9798
nah that's too easy. Lose in November, then get arrested for corruption alongside his wife


[22-Jan-20 09:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would also be sweet


[22-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Midknight#9798
like a kobold basted in pineapple ^_^


[22-Jan-20 09:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the world is also watching this trial via al jazeera


[22-Jan-20 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jan-20 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/dSsCaOj

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Al Jazeera is live streaming the trial on Facebook. The world really is watching. Check out where from.
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[22-Jan-20 09:25 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Everyone thinks it will change something.


[22-Jan-20 09:28 AM] Midknight#9798
Darth Cheetoh will become even more deranged. That's something.


[22-Jan-20 09:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop as a whole will become more unhinged


[22-Jan-20 09:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a blightful irritation on their attempts at power, it;s driving them insane


[22-Jan-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump's temper is making it so much worse


[22-Jan-20 09:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if it doesn't change things drastically it;s still kind of fun to watch them become more and more impatient and unhinged


[22-Jan-20 09:35 AM] Midknight#9798
remember, rage begets apoplexy. they could just keel over frothing at the mouth if the pressure keeps up


[22-Jan-20 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump also picked theperfect set of lawyers to fuck over his entire defense


[22-Jan-20 09:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they looked good on tv


[22-Jan-20 09:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At least good entertainment,  it makes total sense.


[22-Jan-20 10:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/21/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-2020-election-101339

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‘Nobody likes him’: Hillary Clinton reignites feud with Bernie
The 2016 Democratic presidential nominee declined to commit to endorsing the Vermont senator if he captures the party’s nomination this year.
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[22-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, I'm reading you... It's like, parallels between MLP, some movie nobody ever heard of (how did _you_ find out of it's existence I can only wonder), constitution amendments, common sense, boomers mentality in a period where boomers were younger and less powerful than current millenials, and so on, and on, and on. It makes no sense to me because I'm missing literally all the context, what context I'm not missing makes your points seem absolutely wrong, yet you are 100% convinced you're right (even when you're proven wrong, then it's just insignificant), so it seems you _have_ to be right after all. I know I have to stop when I'm starting to feel like 'a stupid man getting smarter' even for a moment.


[22-Jan-20 10:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I can't imagine I've ever met anyone quite like this in 'person', no joke. This is Shapiro/Peterson level, but even better in some regards.


[22-Jan-20 10:51 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're not using this to try and make money, you're probably missing out. I get that it's not easy, but **damn**.


[22-Jan-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe you should watch the movie.


[22-Jan-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it was on TV one day


[22-Jan-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't really *watch* TV, but I found it amusing to correct my parents when they were talking about what was on.


[22-Jan-20 11:05 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, I probably will.


[22-Jan-20 01:01 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders shouldn't face Donald Trump. Donald Trump is going to ge reelected if Bernie gets the nominee


[22-Jan-20 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;ls going to get elected if biden gets it too


[22-Jan-20 01:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Here, let me rephrase that for you


[22-Jan-20 01:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Joe Biden shouldn't face Donald Trump. Donald Trump is going to get reelected if Joe gets the nomination


[22-Jan-20 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51197463

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People still want plastic bottles, says Coca-Cola
The drinks giant says it will not ditch plastic outright but will try to recycle more.
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[22-Jan-20 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't know anyone who wants the bottle


[22-Jan-20 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They usually want what's in the bottle.


[22-Jan-20 03:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Cola in cardboard boxes, like milk.


[22-Jan-20 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
bad idea


[22-Jan-20 03:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Those cardboard boxes still have plastic in them to stop the liquid from destroying the cardboard. Also coke is fizzy and would make those cardboard boxes explode.


[22-Jan-20 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_drops a carton of cola, bombsquad called in to investigate_


[22-Jan-20 04:01 PM] Opponent#3498
there's currently ifaik no viable alternative to plastic bottles for fuzzy drinks


[22-Jan-20 04:01 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't even about what people want.


[22-Jan-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
what you need is a hard yet flexible shell able to contain some measure of pressure. Tetrapack or w/e will just explode.


[22-Jan-20 04:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, glass and aluminium...


[22-Jan-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
glass isn't flexible. A disposable glass bottle is fine, a 2l or 5l one? Ehhh.


[22-Jan-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
aluminum... Maybe. But there's a limit to metal's flexibility as well.


[22-Jan-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
although yeah, some malleable alloy has great potential.


[22-Jan-20 04:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe people should, like, drink less soda


[22-Jan-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe. But until they do you gotta serve it somehow.


[22-Jan-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
aluminum cans are not made the way people think they are


[22-Jan-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
they are aluminum shelled for structural integrity but they have a plastic liner on the inside to protect the can from the acidic soda


[22-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/X1pB6O6AYMU

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Remove Coke Can from Coke
In this video we do something really silly and remove a can from the coke it contains.

To do the demonstration: First get any soft drink can and using sandpaper, sand off the label. Then open the can and suspend it by the tab in 5% hydrochloric acid. The exact concentration ...
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[22-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
this makes recycling them a chore


[22-Jan-20 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
in order to avoid just burning away the plastic, it has to be chemically processsed


[22-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
it's typically more economical to attempt to melt them anyway and then periodically clean the carbon sludge produced


[22-Jan-20 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
there's not a clear "better" option


[22-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2cb8c0b71160268b52a90335e0e5ce47

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Trump says he's open to witnesses as trial rules are set
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Senate plunged into President Donald Trump’s  impeachment trial with Republicans abruptly abandoning plans to cram opening arguments into two days but solidly rejecting...
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[22-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... dammit trump make up your fucking mind


[22-Jan-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1a542a36d35c4491555e458c53bf7288

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Trump minimizes severity of head injuries in Iran attacks
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Wednesday minimized the severity of head injuries sustained by U.S. troops during an Iranian missile strike on an Iraqi air base as he was pressed on...
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[22-Jan-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/97916f7fe09de037e7bdde7ae9a624d7

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NJ is 1st state to mandate severance pay for mass layoffs
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey has become the first state in the nation to guarantee severance pay for mass layoffs, according to the bill's sponsors and the governor's office. Democratic...
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[22-Jan-20 06:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] how is painful to recycle glass?


[22-Jan-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
rather easy in comparison


[22-Jan-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/why-isnt-there-one-easy-way-recycle-glass

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Why Isn't There One Easy Way to Recycle Glass?
It's complicated, says Mr. Green
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[22-Jan-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
easy in comparison, still not easy though


[22-Jan-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bulk glass recycling is also way heavier thanbulk plastic which makes transport slightly more difficult


[22-Jan-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we would probably have an easier time recycling shit right now if lobbyists didnt keep fucking with the EPA and research


[22-Jan-20 06:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not to promote soviet values here, back in USSR the goods that came in glass containers usually had label stating "container cost xx, included in full price" and you could bring back the container to a shop for a discounted price of container or monetary reward of the price of container.


[22-Jan-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
that's just good sense


[22-Jan-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
as hard as it might be to imagine, not everything Soviets did sucked ass


[22-Jan-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[22-Jan-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
there were many genuinly good practical decisions made.


[22-Jan-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america used to do bottle buy backs too but a lot of those stores that did that closed down


[22-Jan-20 06:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Glass is a poor 2l substitute material"
Me, a Chad: S O D A   F O U N T A I N   B O T T L E S   U N D E R   H I G H P R E S S U R E

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[22-Jan-20 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
no, glass is amazing for pressure


[22-Jan-20 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not flexible though.


[22-Jan-20 06:33 PM] Opponent#3498
and is bad for selling fuzzy drinks people might wanna carry around


[22-Jan-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it does well under pressure, not so well under shock


[22-Jan-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially not the way coca cola would cut corners with it to make it cost effective


[22-Jan-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
coca cola does glass bottles but in way smaller quantities


[22-Jan-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these are mostly for storae in coolers though and not for bag travel


[22-Jan-20 06:38 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. For a refillable, static container that sits on the table glass is ideal. But that's not how retail fuzzy drink bottles are used.


[22-Jan-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for dinner guests you get the fancy glass coke bottles with the art deco on them


[22-Jan-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
coca cola would have been losing a lot in the 50s if their glass bottles couldn't withstand transportation


[22-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Interesting thing here... A company that  sell everything in glass jars and promotes it actively, not sure if they just looking for ways to sell overpriced stuff


[22-Jan-20 07:02 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/22/ivan-davydov/

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https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/22/ivan-davydov/
Ivan Davydov: Extremely Knowledgeable Russians
“Release political prisoners! They should not be in prison!” Muscovites rally in support of political prisoners on Sakharov Avenue on September 29, 2019. Photo by Pyotr Kassin for Komme…
https://therussianreader.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/kmo_173017_00047_1.jpg


[22-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
'mUscovites'?


[22-Jan-20 07:07 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah, that's how it's spelled in English


[22-Jan-20 07:07 PM] ononim#8141
Alongside Grand Duchy of M**u**scovy


[22-Jan-20 07:07 PM] ononim#8141
while the city is still Moscow


[22-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. Okay, live and learn.


[22-Jan-20 07:08 PM] ononim#8141
why they translated it is Grand Duchy instead of Grand Principality is beyond my knowledge


[22-Jan-20 07:14 PM] Frame!#1690
So weird to see someone else talking about something, you see on TV

Oh wait
We dont here xd


[22-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Frame!#1690
Bcs media makes it so noone knows of protests etc


[22-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Idea for the guys who cannot afford preheated food in California: https://homesthetics.net/rocket-stove-plans/

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https://homesthetics.net/rocket-stove-plans/
27 Insanely Cool DIY Rocket Stove Plans for Cooking With Wood
Rocket stoves might not be close to rocket science, but they sure hell aren't easy to make for a novice. Relax; read our guide instead.
https://cdn.homesthetics.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Rocket-Stoves.jpg


[22-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh I never understood the purpose of protesting in Russia


[22-Jan-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
at best you're providing a reminder that you exist, as well as painting a target onto yourself for the same reason (assuming you're someone of any notoriety anyway)


[22-Jan-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
there doesn't seem to be any endgame to this whole 'protest' and 'human rights' business.


[22-Jan-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
there's nobility and plebs, and nobility cares about the others much less than it did 'back when'.


[22-Jan-20 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess that's why the turnover for various rallies is so low. I'm not the only one who's wondering.


[22-Jan-20 08:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1220060137924284418?s=21

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[22-Jan-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of protests is to busy up the gov't so they can't target you individually.


[22-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
mm, yeah, I suppose. You decrease the chance of you specifically being targetted


[22-Jan-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
still, assuming you're not on the radar to begin with, there's no reason to even start, from this angle.


[22-Jan-20 08:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ping pong time in the UK. This will be the ball. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-refugees-dubs-amendment-house-lords-peers-child-migrants-a9294961.html

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Boris Johnson suffers fourth Brexit defeat in less than 24 hours a...
Peers vote by 300 to 220 to restore safeguards for unaccompanied minors
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/01/20/21/Boris-Johnson.jpg


[22-Jan-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I hope he is forced to do another general election. That'd be amazing


[22-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...so Brexit is getting delayed again? :shrugpony:


[22-Jan-20 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I wish. This just means it is going to be done in the worst way possible.


[22-Jan-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Enough of this nonsense, let us take a moment to pay respects to the great American invention, the wheel.


[22-Jan-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why, just look at this historical woodcutting, showing 18th-century British children playing with one.


[22-Jan-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/669646704068395008/trundling.png


[22-Jan-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact, it was the exploitation of this genius, rotating colonial invention that led to the conflict we know today as the Revolutionary War


[22-Jan-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
how'd you get a hold of the proposed 2020 Modern History course revision?


[22-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie more CAF https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200119/13292143764/dea-tsa-sued-stealing-79-year-old-mans-life-savings-his-daughter-airport.shtml

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DEA, TSA Sued For Stealing 79-Year-Old Man's Life Savings From His...
The DEA doesn't really want to stop the flow of drugs into the country. Let's not kid ourselves. Better yet, let's not allow the DEA to kid us it's in the drug enforcement business. It's in the cash business. It wants to seize...
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[22-Jan-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-emails-ukraine-aid-omb-american-oversight-a9296006.html

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Trump impeachment scandal emails released moments before midnight ...
Redacted documents reveal ‘more evidence of president’s corrupt scheme’, says campaign group
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/01/22/09/trump-emails-impeachment.jpg


[22-Jan-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
> The Trump administration has released a stash of heavily redacted documents about the withholding of military aid to Ukraine just two minutes before the deadline.
> 
> As the Senate continued to block attempts to subpoena official records for Donald Trump’s impeachment trial, 192 pages of emails were disclosed under a Freedom of Information request.
> 
> They include communications between budget officials on the day of the president’s phone call to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenksy to press for an investigation into his Democrat rival Joe Biden.
> 
> American Oversight, the non-profit organisation that requested the documents, said that some of the records have not been given to the US Congress for its impeachment investigation.


[22-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Raptorshy#6268
:ponkpopcorn:


[22-Jan-20 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] I mean: pretty much. The DEA makes a pretty shitty anti-narcotics task force of because nothing is ever made better at the source of the problem. Kind of can't stop narcotics when out of political pragmatism you consistently ally with the biggest narco syndicates on the world.


[22-Jan-20 11:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking Afghanistan is founded on heroin and we supported a Colombian government and right-wing militias even more entrenched in Cocaine than FARC


[22-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
it would feel better if there was an actual, serious way to curtail how shitty the US is internationally


[22-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like even bernie would be forced to okay some international bullshit


[22-Jan-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of it kind of stem from the wars in Indochina. The CIA model of support is drawn from doctrine they crafted and had tacitely approved by Congress's silence or unawareness in places like Laos, northern Thailand, and Burma. Like the CIA found it could just get extra funding indirectly by overlooking and directly facilitating narco-trafficking among its partners. At such a time though as Indochina the very real argument could be made that opium and heroin was literally the only possible economic activity on Laos, since the country was so primitive in economic development there was fuck all to do, and fuck all resources to utilize. So they built heroin funded militias and PMCs and the royal Laotian government was in part funded by heroin as long as the king was never directly affected, and the non-existent resources of Laos basically meant even the Communist Party that did win kept facilitating a low-key heroin industry as long as it didn't bother them.


[22-Jan-20 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
And their operations along the southern China border in Thailand and Burma only existed because they played nice with the local opium warlords and the KMT irregulars that managed to exist there for such an embarrassingly long time the CIA got embarrassed when it was revealed they were flying dope out in their airplanes, lmao


[22-Jan-20 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
But since no one actually tried to reign in, they kept on and it became their standing operating procedure in foreign theaters through South America and central Asia.


[22-Jan-20 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
But half of this also doesn't exist because of the CIA and got away with it because of the DEA's own inability to realize information. They never knew the Golden Triangle in Indochina was or ever would be a thing until it was too late and kept insisting Turkish opium was the problem. Likewise Afghan opium could never be an issue because Iran's past and maybe continuing open embrace or even full legalization of opium meant it acted as a sponge for central Asian opium and heroin. Until it didn't and they denied the presence of Afghan heroin in Germany as a sign of that for a long time.


[23-Jan-20 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
And no one managed to arrest Kung Sa who did the most chad move and retired peacefully on his billions of heroin profits when he decided to surrender his Shan rebel army to Myanmar and was allowed to die an insanely wealthy man, Myanmar refusing to extradite him on behalf of the DEA. Kung Sa for reference had practically owned 80% of the US heroin market and was this a more powerful man than El Chapo or Pablo


[23-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/health-and-social-care-spending-cuts-linked-to-120000-excess-deaths-in-england/

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Ingrid Bray
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Health and social care spending cuts linked to 120,000 excess deat...
Over 60s and care home residents most at risk; changes in nurse numbers may be key The squeeze on public finances since 2010 is linked to nearly 120,000 excess


[23-Jan-20 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
> The squeeze on public finances since 2010 is linked to nearly 120,000 excess deaths in England, with the over 60s and care home residents bearing the brunt, reveals the first study of its kind, published in the online journal BMJ Open.


[23-Jan-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479470-emotion-from-trumps-legal-team-wins-presidential-plaudits

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'Emotion' from Trump's legal team wins presidential plaudits
The American public and U.S. Senate got its first real introduction on Tuesday to Pat Cipollone, the White House counsel who has been a key player on impeachment for President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cipollonepat_sekulowjay_012220getty.jpg


[23-Jan-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479393-democrats-shoot-down-talk-of-bolton-hunter-biden-witness-swap

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Democrats shoot down talk of Bolton, Hunter Biden witness swap
Senate Democrats are dismissing chatter about attempts at an agreement that would guarantee former national security adviser John Bolton testifies in President Trump's impeachment trial in exchange for former Vice Pr
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schumercharles_012220gn_lead.jpg


[23-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479460-biden-says-he-would-not-engage-in-witness-swap-in-impeachment-trial

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Biden says he would not engage in witness swap in impeachment trial
Former Vice President Joe Biden said he would not take part in a witness swap in the Senate’s impeachment trial as Democratic senators similarly
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_012220getty.jpg


[23-Jan-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone burst in the senate...


[23-Jan-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
?


[23-Jan-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, someone just started screaming something unintelligible, Roberts told the sergeant to remove them, can still hear yelling in the hallway outside the parliament


[23-Jan-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
someone missed their daily dose of trump worship or something


[23-Jan-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww i missed that


[23-Jan-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this trial is a sanity endurance test if there ever was onne


[23-Jan-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did the edge of the room media coverage rule get revoked?


[23-Jan-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/479332-un-calls-for-probe-into-alleged-hack-of-bezoss-phone-by-saudi-arabia

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UN links alleged Saudi hacking to effort to silence Washington Post
The United Nations on Wednesday drew a line between the hacking of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos's phone and coverage of Saudi Arabia's involvement in the killing of a Washington Post journalist, calling for a further investigation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/jeffbezos_09062012.jpg


[23-Jan-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a30624242/trump-admits-obstruction-of-congress-davos-press-conference/

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It Sure Does Sound Like Trump Just Bragged About Obstructing Congress
"Honestly, we have all the material," said the president. "They don't have the material." Because the administration refuses to turn over any evidence related to his Perfect Call.
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[23-Jan-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're basically going to have a presidency that can get away with anything.


[23-Jan-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if Bernie or Warren won, and it was proven that they for example, tried to solicit Iran or China to conduct campaigns to discredit Trump?


[23-Jan-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing.


[23-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie could just plain go to war with China


[23-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
while blakkmailing Canada into helping


[23-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the open


[23-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
while having sex with a 10 year old


[23-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, what would stop President Biden from declaring membership in an alt-right group grounds for imprisonment by the National Guard?


[23-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if we get proof in say, 2022 that Bernie told China "Hey if you hacked the voting machines in Ohio I would do a favor for you"


[23-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
While also declaring violent video games illegal.


[23-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could just like, call up Facebook


[23-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
and tell them they'll get a new law passed in their favor


[23-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they shut down any and all "hate" groups


[23-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
as told to them by the Justice Dept.


[23-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479481-abortion-protester-interrupts-impeachment-trial

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Abortion protester interrupts impeachment trial
An abortion protester briefly interrupted the Senate impeachment trial on Wednesday.The man appeared to try to burst into the public gallery overlooking the chamber before being quickly dragged out.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/senatetrial_012220getty.jpg


[23-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine getting verbally pimpslapped by the Chief Justice


[23-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously, I'd be surprised if Bernie/Warren/Biden aren't looking into playing dirty too


[23-Jan-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically expected.


[23-Jan-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus Iran is really, really good at it.


[23-Jan-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden for sure


[23-Jan-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
he right now is awaiting whether he can like, just openly imprison right wing and left wing people.


[23-Jan-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, biden could start gassing immigrants


[23-Jan-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meme page I follow had good thing


[23-Jan-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@LSMFET14/law-school-memes-for-edgy-t14s-endorses-joseph-sloppy-joe-biden-f4fd84d09f48

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Law School Memes for Edgy T14s Endorses Joseph “Sloppy Joe” Biden
Law School Memes for Edgy T14s (LSMFET14) is a Facebook group of over seventy-three-thousand law students, lawyers, and people interested…
https://miro.medium.com/max/1100/1*6KXxA5BZ8s9FfUEtXUFqvQ.jpeg


[23-Jan-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"People tell law students all the time, “Even if you don’t do well in law school, you can still have a successful career.” It’s hard to believe. But no one embodies this truth like Joe Biden. Biden plagiarized a paper he submitted as a first-year law student and finished in the bottom quintile of his class while claiming for decades he graduated in the top half[1]. But you know what else he did? Become senator of Delaware. He moved forward and overcame his blunders, somehow."


[23-Jan-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hav his executive agencies deny all federal funds to any state without a $15 minimum wage


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just bypass Congress


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
just say that the minimum wage is $15 now or else


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does Congress do?


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can't remove you.


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS can rule against you, doesn't matter


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
tell Kavanaugh he's fired


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't impeach, just tell him he's fired


[23-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
put in his place Obama


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't even bother asking them to approve the nomination


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
just, Obama is a justice now


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
too bad


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama wouldn't be a terrible pick regardless.


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but imagine a president who literally just puts in a judge without any approval process


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then he fires all the Trump appointments.


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing stops them from doing it.


[23-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't remove


[23-Jan-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP will deeply regret this ten years from now.


[23-Jan-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine President Biden just takes away control of voting systems from the states


[23-Jan-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
says no more voter suppression, federal troops will come in to chekk all your decisions


[23-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile he's implementing racial discrimination in the courts against native americans, mexicans, asians, and arabs


[23-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like putting in place rules by which treaties with native americans are doubted as being legitimate


[23-Jan-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch cries "that's not legal", Gorsuch is removed.


[23-Jan-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden talks big about how asians/arabs could be spies


[23-Jan-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that even citizens shouldn't be treated the same by their ancestor's nationality


[23-Jan-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
All totally possible if the presidency can do whatever.


[23-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equality for whites and blakks, colonialism for all others, @Itsthinking.


[23-Jan-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't even a republic anymore, it's basically the HRE voting on emperor


[23-Jan-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s exactly what the GOP wanted, and it;s exactly the GOP's greatest nightmare should trump not get re-elected


[23-Jan-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The GOP doesnt think in the long term about how itls decisions will fuck itself over when thye arent in power


[23-Jan-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://medium.com/discourse/1963-the-last-year-america-was-great-8a877b9e5724

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1963: The last year America was ‘great’
Conservatives know exactly what point in time they want to go back to—but most are afraid to say it.
https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*x3Y9guV7Noa80sAVzxf-ZA.jpeg


[23-Jan-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they just want those golden eggs and oompa loompas now, and they;re willoing to go down the trash chute at the end of their song to get it


[23-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Leave it To Beaver presented as an ideal


[23-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were supposed to be dysfunctional and realistic, and thus show how the ideal is/was fake.


[23-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was the comedy. "Oh this family looks perfect but oh they get into some wacky stuff!"


[23-Jan-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe they just want a belt woopin


[23-Jan-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the disturbing thing is, their ideal time period was a goddamned fluke that wont just go back to being that way just because they rewrite the rules to match the tiem period


[23-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
> The series finale of Leave it to Beaver, a clip show titled “Family Scrapbook,” aired on June 20, 1963. While the Cleavers were reminiscing about the time Beaver ran away from home or when Wally ran for class president, a race war was raging on the streets of Cambridge, Maryland, which had been placed under martial law only six days earlier.
> 
> Desegregation protests that had been happening off and on for more than a year intensified after the assassination of civil rights activist Medgar Evers on June 12. Gun battles in the streets between black civil rights activists and white mobs prompted the governor to call in the National Guard to restore order—a move welcomed by black activists since the local and state police were firmly on the side of the white supremacists.
> 
> In the charming hamlet of Mayfield, Medgar Evers was never gunned down in his driveway. No peaceful black protestors were ever blasted with firehoses or felt the sharp teeth of German shepherds tear into their flesh. No black homes were ever firebombed—because there were none.


[23-Jan-20 01:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> GOP will deeply regret this ten years from now.
Doesn't seem like it, but sure


[23-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
> But the piece of legislation hated the most by those who hope to return to “Leave it to Beaver time” was passed in 1965: The Hart-Cellar Immigration Act, which overturned policies that heavily favored immigrants from white European countries.
> 
> In white nationalist lore, the year 1965 has a mythical significance. Prior to that point, they claim, America was a “white ethnostate” and they aim to restore it via a process described in Orwellian terms variously as “peaceful ethnic cleansing” or “voluntary self-deportation.”


[23-Jan-20 01:31 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought Europeans hated each other  for some reason despite they're all white.


[23-Jan-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This article seems to be drawing some pretty wild conclusions


[23-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
yes, humans are inherently suspicious of "others"


[23-Jan-20 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the bit about white nationalists reminiscing about the period just before Hart-Cellar is at least interesting, but the generalization takes things a bit far, I think


[23-Jan-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
hundreds of years ago, all of the "others" were whites in europe


[23-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
however, they would still hold contempt as a whole to "other others", which would be those with different skin color


[23-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
there's always little tiny differences in facial structure between ethnicity and stuff that humans can use to differentiate each other


[23-Jan-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@jlun2 It doesn't look like it but right now the GOP is passing rules that down the line will shoot itself in the foot when "the other guys" are in power because they;ve basically declared the president can do whatever the fuck they want and ignore congressional orders


[23-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
in the opposite way that non-eastern asians can't really tell the difference between chinese, korean, and japanese, eastern asians are acutely aware of the differences in facial structure


[23-Jan-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
because of their cultures of hating each other


[23-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
basically, even if you were to remove all the different races from the united states, the conservatives would just move back to hating jews and the irish


[23-Jan-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the current GOP is basically the heritage foundation


[23-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
because conservatism REQUIRES the "other" to survive


[23-Jan-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
in other words, there must always be Another


[23-Jan-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
:derpchrys:


[23-Jan-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eventually when the gop runs out of people to hate, they'll turn on each other until 2 remain to cannibalize each other


[23-Jan-20 01:40 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[23-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
fascism as an ideology is self-destructive


[23-Jan-20 01:41 AM] jlun2#8758
they probably just assign everyone left a random number 0, 1 and have those 2 kill each other


[23-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
even if nazi germany had won WW2, it would've cannibalized itself as soon as hitler died


[23-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
it was already showing signs of self-destruction even at the height of its power


[23-Jan-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"those other guys have all the resources, i want their resources and if i dont kill the other guy i won't survive"


[23-Jan-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every gop member fucking despises eachother, but thye despise the other guy more


[23-Jan-20 01:43 AM] jlun2#8758
byte mentioned a social experiment on such, but the only one I found was done on kids


[23-Jan-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their entire party is stay in line or we eat you and dish out your remains to the other more loyal in our following


[23-Jan-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but itls not loyalty, it;s fear of becoming other other guy


[23-Jan-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s even plastered all over the impeachment trial, every GOP member has basically looped their argument from each other. they allr epeat the same lines, the same phrases, the same lies, all to stay in line and not deviate


[23-Jan-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.simplypsychology.org/robbers-cave.html


[23-Jan-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
found it. if anyone knows more pls let me know


[23-Jan-20 01:52 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) i thought it was because GOP natural selectioned itself to becoming very homogenous and like minded


[23-Jan-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
itis but even then they all have subtle differences


[23-Jan-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the way thye look, in the religion they worship, in their beleifs and morals


[23-Jan-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this trump worship is killing quite a few gop members inside


[23-Jan-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if they show it, they get singled outand eaten by the herd


[23-Jan-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several GOP members wanted witnesses until trump called them all into a room and probably singled each one out and made them an example


[23-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-us-hospitals/hospital-groups-file-lawsuit-to-block-trumps-price-transparency-rule-idUSKBN1Y81YY

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Hospital groups file lawsuit to block Trump's price transparency rule
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20191204&t=2&i=1460290419&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEFB31D3


[23-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
> U.S. hospital groups have challenged the Trump administration’s rule that requires them to be more transparent about prices they charge patients for healthcare services, according to a lawsuit filed on Wednesday.


[23-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
> The rule, seen as a violation of the First Amendment by the hospital groups, also demands confidential information on individually negotiated contract terms with all third-party payers, including private commercial health insurers.


[23-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[23-Jan-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[23-Jan-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bitch that's not a violation of your first amendment


[23-Jan-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Freedom of speech, wherein speech includes written text


[23-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being _forced_ to warn people is forcing their speech and denying them the right to their own expression


[23-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So you see, not warning people that they're drinking poison, or printing out price labels, is against the first ammendment


[23-Jan-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Forcing corporations to properly inform american citizens of their rights and opportunities is literally unconstitutional :^)


[23-Jan-20 02:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK police want to make it illegal to refuse giving them your password.
I can't find anything about it by searching google though. Anyone else have any luck with this?


[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, it's a violation of the 5th amendment to make someone reveal their knowledge.


[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the UK, there is no such thing.


[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can be compelled by a court to state your password.


[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/25/traveler-who-refused-to-give-device-passwords-to-police-found-guilty-of-obstruction-in-uk-court/

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Traveler who refused to give device passwords to police found guil...
A UK court has reaffirmed the power for state agents to use sweeping counterterrorism legislation to require travelers hand over the passwords for their digital devices for their contents to be searched at borders.
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[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or to say what you think of someone etc. etc.


[23-Jan-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is...problematic.


[23-Jan-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for biometric to be common, so police can literally hold you down against a reader like an animal being branded


[23-Jan-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c43e33814ee71e770fdde0772d9213a9

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https://apnews.com/c43e33814ee71e770fdde0772d9213a9
Trump administration approves Keystone pipeline on US land
BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — The Trump administration on Wednesday approved a right-of-way allowing the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline to be built across U.S. land, pushing the controversial $8 billion...
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[23-Jan-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
blow it up


[23-Jan-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
no, really


[23-Jan-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
oil can't flow through a pipeline if you blow up the pipeline


[23-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
```I thought Europeans hated each other  for some reason despite they're all white.```


[23-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I think only US left equates hate with racism.


[23-Jan-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
united in their hate for arab immigrants, perhaps


[23-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
historical metric of 'other'-ness is religion, modern-world equivalent would be national identity, born of WW1 as all fun things seem to be.


[23-Jan-20 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1220160995512860672?s=21

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God (@TheTweetOfGod)
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1220160995512860672?s=21
Whether or not Trump is found guilty, he’s guilty.
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[23-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
granted, we also get racism, skinheads, etc, but those seem to be relatively new. Post-USSR.


[23-Jan-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
over here, we get homicidal white men carrying nazi flags and tiki torches in rallies


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
what's up with tiki torches btw? Some iconic item again?


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Europe has both jews and gypsies and now tons of immigrants who are easily distinguished


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd be impractical for like, the French to truly hate the Germans


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
too many enemies.


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Macarou#9574
I also remember Europe not being fond of the Irish for a while


[23-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want enemies close by, to justify stuff.


[23-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was just England.


[23-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
England hates everyone


[23-Jan-20 03:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-speak-at-annual-march-for-life-11579738123

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-speak-at-annual-march-for-life-11579738123
Trump to Speak at Annual March for Life
President Trump plans to speak at the March for Life in Washington Friday, making him the first president to attend the antiabortion march in person in the event’s history.
https://images.wsj.net/im-146472/social


[23-Jan-20 03:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/frfrankpavone/status/1220130535600795649?s=21

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Fr. Frank Pavone 🇺🇸 (@frfrankpavone)
https://twitter.com/frfrankpavone/status/1220130535600795649?s=21
President @realDonaldTrump will be joining us at the March for Life on Friday in person!
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[23-Jan-20 03:19 AM] illumnious#7938
Good grief


[23-Jan-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it's telling how pro-lifers go to great lengths to guarantee unborn fetuses a right to life, but proceed not to give a flying fuck about them the minute they are born


[23-Jan-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
some even insist that it's okay _if the mother will undoubtedly die_ if she gives birth


[23-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
jews are definitely not a race. A religion, a tribe perhaps (a linked family of families), but you can't tell someone's a jew by looking at them (unless they're doing jewish things, specific clothes and such)


[23-Jan-20 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
we use it to mean ethnoreligious group


[23-Jan-20 03:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/mynameisnegan/status/1220134045515862021?s=21

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https://twitter.com/mynameisnegan/status/1220134045515862021?s=21
George Carlin: "Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers." #RoevWade March for Life https://t.co/OvN7G9LH7O
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[23-Jan-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not being able to tell someone's a jew by looking at their skin without the garb etc. is like the main reason the KKK etc. use them as a boogeyman.


[23-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEY WALK AMONG US etc.


[23-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
snake in the grass. Yeah, I've heard that before.


[23-Jan-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the tiki torches thing is just the closest thing they coudl get to stereo typical village mob torches


[23-Jan-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont use the pitch forks because that could be seen as arms wielding


[23-Jan-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
well, you say that and then Heather Heyer dies


[23-Jan-20 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, wielding cars is apparently seen as less armed than wielding pitchforks...


[23-Jan-20 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/326336f2b37f03a521e867db9a41d0f0

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https://apnews.com/326336f2b37f03a521e867db9a41d0f0
24 hours in, senators flout quaint impeachment rules
WASHINGTON (AP) — So much for the Senate's quaint rules and tradition. Almost immediately after Chief Justice John Roberts gaveled in Wednesday's session of President Donald Trump's...
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[23-Jan-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/21-empty-seats-more-than-one-third-of-gop-senators-reportedly-left-room-during-schiffs-speech/

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Jerry Lambe
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/21-empty-seats-more-than-one-third-of-gop-senators-reportedly-left-room-during-schiffs-speech/
’21 Empty Seats’: More Than One-Third of GOP Senators Reported...
A large bloc of Republican Senators reportedly skipped large portions of Wednesday’s impeachment trial, flouting Senate rules requiring them to remain in their seats at all times during the proceedings, according to journalist Michael McAuliff.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/GettyImages-1136201110.jpg


[23-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
literally no respect for the law


[23-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder what would happen if citizens started arresting congressmen for this bullshit


[23-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Crow#5457
since obviously the government isn't doing anything about it


[23-Jan-20 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were also chit chatting amongst each other, giggling,  and passing notes


[23-Jan-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should take note of and publish the names of the senators who do this


[23-Jan-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-brain-injuries.html

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By Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-brain-injuries.html
Trump Dismisses Troops’ Possible Brain Injuries as ‘Headaches’
The deputy commander of the American-led operation in Iraq said the Pentagon was putting service members through medical examinations to see if they had traumatic brain injuries.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/22/us/politics/22dc-pentagon/22dc-pentagon-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:10 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomer with Alzheimers pls


[23-Jan-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/climate/trump-environment-water.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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By Coral Davenport
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/climate/trump-environment-water.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Trump Eases Pollution Controls on Streams and Wetlands
The Trump administration has finished a new rule that rolls back environmental controls on many wetlands and intermittent streams, delivering a win to rural landowners.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/21/climate/00CLI-WOTUS-HFO1/00CLI-WOTUS-HFO1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/22/trump-impeachment-tweet-record

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Trump tweets his way to a record on impeachment day
The president’s 131 tweets included arguments in his defense in the ongoing Senate trial
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[23-Jan-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/22/21077547/state-department-pregnant-women-birth-tourism-policy

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/22/21077547/state-department-pregnant-women-birth-tourism-policy
Exclusive: State cable shows plan to restrict pregnant people from...
"People will die because of this," a State Department official told Vox.
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[23-Jan-20 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-teases-unscheduled-appearance-at-his-own-impeachment-trial-2020-1

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Trump is teasing that he could make an awkward, unscheduled appear...
In response to a question, Trump said: "I'd love to go. Wouldn't that be great, wouldn't that be beautiful?" He admitted his lawyers may not agree.
https://i.insider.com/5e28fb5d62fa81086c7e9fc2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Jan-20 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, please do show up, we would absolutely love that


[23-Jan-20 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1219974660915388416?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1219974660915388416?s=21
They are taking the nomination away from Bernie for a second time. Rigged!
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[23-Jan-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please trump, play your trump cards. play them all


[23-Jan-20 12:44 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Can I use this Luftkrieg pic as long as its clean?

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[23-Jan-20 01:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-senate-impeachment-trial-judge-andrew-napolitano

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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-senate-impeachment-trial-judge-andrew-napolitano
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Trump's Senate impeachment trial -- What ...
What is required for removal of the president? A demonstration of presidential commission of high crimes and misdemeanors, of which in Trump's case the evidence is ample.
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[23-Jan-20 01:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl:dr FOX NEWS legal analysts says Trump should be booted


[23-Jan-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially after davos...


[23-Jan-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I have all the evidence and you don't! Boot me now, losers!"


[23-Jan-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/01/22/trump-on-elon-musk-i-was-worried-about-him-because-hes-one-of-our-great-geniuses.html

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Trump on Elon Musk: I was worried about him, because he's one of o...
President Donald Trump sits down for an interview with CNBC's Joe Kernen from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
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[23-Jan-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the video in the source is just pure insanity


[23-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Elon Musk isn't american...


[23-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Edison's been dead a while...


[23-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wheels...


[23-Jan-20 01:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god


[23-Jan-20 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"he does good at rockets"


[23-Jan-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, there;s a longer 20 minute version

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[23-Jan-20 02:13 PM] ononim#8141
People always forget that Muskrat is South African


[23-Jan-20 02:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk
Spitting Image - I've Never Met A Nice South African (With Lyrics)...
Bring back the days when hard biting and simply damned funny satire was still allowed... :-)

Those days of not so long ago before the "Nanny State", the "PC Brigade" & bloody "Terrorism Laws" thinly disguised as ways to take away our freedom to rip the piss out of those whom...
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[23-Jan-20 02:18 PM] ononim#8141
tho I wonder if he's British South African or Afrikaaner


[23-Jan-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
he's white-ish, so I'd imagine at least early settler descendant.


[23-Jan-20 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Depends on languages he is speaking. British usually avoid afrikaans, unless.


[23-Jan-20 02:40 PM] ononim#8141
@Opponent Afrikaaner reffers to white Dutch settlers of South Africa prior to British control of the land, with Boer being on of these Dutch settlers groups


[23-Jan-20 02:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ1fG75cmWw

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The Most Endangered Porpoise in the World
The Vaquita is not only the world's smallest cetacean, but also the most endangered. Fewer than 20 of these animals remain in a small area of sea in the Gulf of California.

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[23-Jan-20 02:41 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[23-Jan-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9eakfsjtffc41.jpg

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[23-Jan-20 03:01 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't think Bernie will win againstt Trump


[23-Jan-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sally Moon who will then


[23-Jan-20 03:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Joe Biden


[23-Jan-20 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Evidence?


[23-Jan-20 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden is sinking in polls and seems to make a new fuckup every other week


[23-Jan-20 03:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Biden is the only one with experience in foreign policy. After Trump's horrible a foreign policy we really need someone like Joe Biden.


[23-Jan-20 03:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden's foreign policy is a significant weak point because of the Burisma affair


[23-Jan-20 03:19 PM] byte[]#2610
While I don't think it's fair to criticize him much for it, that's not what voters will think


[23-Jan-20 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember, elections are about the voters


[23-Jan-20 03:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump brought up Burisma because he feels threatened so he is pulling the same thing he did with Hillary


[23-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
If you say that you _think someone can't win_ you need to consider the candidate's popular perception


[23-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Not the candidate's policy


[23-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
You're just offering a policy


[23-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is the most popular politician in the country


[23-Jan-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
With an approval rating of 65%


[23-Jan-20 03:22 PM] Sally Moon#4922
But Sanders will inheirt Trump's polarized congress. He will get stone walled just like Obama did


[23-Jan-20 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Ok, and Biden won't?


[23-Jan-20 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
You again haven't answered my original request for evidence


[23-Jan-20 03:23 PM] byte[]#2610
What makes you think Sanders _cannot win_?


[23-Jan-20 03:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Because Sanders would be demonized by Fox News and the Republicans, leading to him being unable to get laws passed.


[23-Jan-20 03:25 PM] byte[]#2610
_And Biden hasn't?_


[23-Jan-20 03:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden has been utterly trashed by Fox News


[23-Jan-20 03:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders has actually been praised


[23-Jan-20 03:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I fail to see how this claim bears any scrutiny


[23-Jan-20 03:29 PM] Sally Moon#4922
How can you not see it? Obama's stimulus bill was gutted like a fish, The Republicans are even more polarized now. Biden will struggle to get things passed in Congress becoming  lame duck.


[23-Jan-20 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about being effective in office, I'm talking about winning the presidency


[23-Jan-20 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Stop conflating these things


[23-Jan-20 03:30 PM] byte[]#2610
They are not the same


[23-Jan-20 03:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
People will vote for Trump just because Trump isn't a socialist. Trump can use the Venezuela card and the uninformed voter would see things his way.


[23-Jan-20 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Again I don't see the evidence for this


[23-Jan-20 03:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Many hate on Sanders, but a majority of the voting base loves Sanders' policies


[23-Jan-20 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
How else could one end up being the most popular politician in the country?


[23-Jan-20 03:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It can change. Trump can just bash Bernie's policies and spew misinformation that sounds good. If the Democrates want to beat Trump they need someone who is a moderate.


[23-Jan-20 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Don't see any evidence for that either


[23-Jan-20 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Every time Trump has bashed Sanders (e.g., on Twitter) Sanders has been quick to respond


[23-Jan-20 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The "It means you're going to lose" tweet was far, far more popular than Trump's


[23-Jan-20 03:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1216437138625003522

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It means you’re going to lose. https://t.co/CVBKoKq8DT
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[23-Jan-20 03:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216435180220620807

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216435180220620807
Wow! Crazy Bernie Sanders is surging in the polls, looking very good against his opponents in the Do Nothing Party. So what does this all mean? Stay tuned!
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[23-Jan-20 03:41 PM] byte[]#2610
look at those like/retweet counts


[23-Jan-20 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Also see https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1160305065325977600

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Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders)
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1160305065325977600
Donald Trump believes climate change is a hoax. Donald Trump is an idiot.
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[23-Jan-20 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610
over 1M likes


[23-Jan-20 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
You're not making a very compelling case that people won't vote for Sanders.


[23-Jan-20 03:54 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sanders will get stone walled in Congress or lose to Trump. It doesn't look good ether way


[23-Jan-20 04:02 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I am looking at Bernie Sander afte he gets nominated. Because that's what I'm most concerned about.


[23-Jan-20 04:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm only talking about the losing to Trump part here


[23-Jan-20 04:04 PM] byte[]#2610
While Twitter users could be unrepresentative of the voting population (I suspect they aren't), Sanders having political engagement that is almost an order of magnitude better than Trump's is no small feat


[23-Jan-20 04:06 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It doesn't matter when Trump can simply talk about how Bernie would trash the economy and use the worst example Venezuela to frighten voters


[23-Jan-20 04:06 PM] byte[]#2610
He already _has_


[23-Jan-20 04:06 PM] byte[]#2610
It hasn't hurt Sanders


[23-Jan-20 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd rather Sanders win and not be able to do anything for another 2-4 years


[23-Jan-20 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Than Biden have a stroke during a debate


[23-Jan-20 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, Sanders could have another heart attack


[23-Jan-20 04:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sanders had a heart attack


[23-Jan-20 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Heart attacks aren't that rare


[23-Jan-20 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And Biden's brain's already fritzed


[23-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude constantly goes on old-grandpa tangents or starts skipping like a wobbly record


[23-Jan-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's not much more cogent than Trump


[23-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A debate between the two would be like watching two old men with senile dementia arguing about how things used to be in the 1960s, talking about things completely unrelated to the issues they were asked about, and leaving moderators and viewers stunned and confused


[23-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
aka, great TV


[23-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So I can imagine CNN etc. will push for it just for the ratings


[23-Jan-20 04:12 PM] byte[]#2610
The Democrats have a choice between probably the best candidate they will ever have the chance to run for president, and Joe Biden


[23-Jan-20 04:12 PM] byte[]#2610
it's going to be really hard for CNN if Sanders gets the nomination


[23-Jan-20 04:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I understand the hype for Bernie Sanders, He seems like a bad choice to go up against Trump.


[23-Jan-20 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
You're saying that in a popularity contest, the more popular candidate will lose


[23-Jan-20 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
_non est demonstrandum_


[23-Jan-20 04:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Hollary won the popular vote and still lost


[23-Jan-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Clinton wasn't a very popular politican


[23-Jan-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Her approval ratings were never that good


[23-Jan-20 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders on the other hand, has the highest approval rating of any politician in the country


[23-Jan-20 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
And the presidential election is a popularity contest


[23-Jan-20 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Not to mention Sanders also distances himself from the Democratic party on key issues, is free of foreign influence, and is virtually untouched by scandals


[23-Jan-20 04:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders should have ran as an independent


[23-Jan-20 04:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Okay, you just literally don't understand FPTP voting then


[23-Jan-20 04:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>independent candidate in the us


[23-Jan-20 04:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
As long as Trump is still able to run Bernie Sanders isn't going to have an easy time winning and that is just the beginning of his problems


[23-Jan-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
You have shown no actual concrete evidence pointing to this


[23-Jan-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
So I'm going to reject your claim until you do


[23-Jan-20 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
(and I've shown you a bunch of evidence contradictory to your claim)


[23-Jan-20 04:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Byte just looking at Obama's presidency we can already see the hurdles Bernie will face


[23-Jan-20 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That doesn't matter


[23-Jan-20 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The point is to win the presidency


[23-Jan-20 04:23 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It does matter because Bernie Sanders will be stone walle. He'll be a lame duck


[23-Jan-20 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Are you familiar with the expression "riding the coattails"


[23-Jan-20 04:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Enlighten me


[23-Jan-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
The presidential election is run concurrently with congressional elections


[23-Jan-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
That means House and Senate


[23-Jan-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
People who vote for Sanders are also likely to vote for a Democratic candidate for Congress


[23-Jan-20 04:26 PM] byte[]#2610
This historically holds... When a Republican becomes president, Republicans take Congressional office, and vice versa


[23-Jan-20 04:26 PM] byte[]#2610
It also tends to flip during years when presidential elections are not held


[23-Jan-20 04:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Democrates are not as monolithic as Republicans


[23-Jan-20 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
No, but they're a lot less unpopular


[23-Jan-20 04:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders wil have to compromise on many things.


[23-Jan-20 04:28 PM] byte[]#2610
We expect that he will on legislation


[23-Jan-20 04:28 PM] byte[]#2610
However, the primary concern is undoing the expansive ratfuckery going on in the executive


[23-Jan-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Shutting down immigrant concentration camps


[23-Jan-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Halting funds to christofascist terror groups


[23-Jan-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Paying security assistance that has been illegally withheld from Ukraine...


[23-Jan-20 04:30 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You aim too high


[23-Jan-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
How? Sanders could do all of that on his _first day_


[23-Jan-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
No compromise necessary


[23-Jan-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
All of those things were done solely by the executive


[23-Jan-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
And can be reversed solely by it


[23-Jan-20 04:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
As long as Republicans act in their triblized mindset Bernie will struggle. Add to the fact that not all democrats believe in his ideals further complicate things


[23-Jan-20 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
You sidestepped the question


[23-Jan-20 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm beginning to think you're not arguing in good faith


[23-Jan-20 04:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I have the Obama administration's struggles to keep me tethered to the ground.


[23-Jan-20 04:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I saw how the tea party republicans stone walled Obama they will do the same to Bernie and that is even if Bernie can beat Trump and his cultist


[23-Jan-20 04:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't want Bernie Sanders turning into Trump


[23-Jan-20 04:38 PM] Sally Moon#4922
People voted for Trump because he wasn't a politician. Does that not bother you?


[23-Jan-20 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no reason to suspect causation


[23-Jan-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
What I think people voted him in for was dislike of Clinton (because of his aggressive smear campaign)


[23-Jan-20 04:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
And he will do the same to Bernie "Mad Bernie wants to turn America into a f-ing Veneuzela. Look at this economy. Ain't it great? You know its great" - Trump


[23-Jan-20 04:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump broke our politics we need a moderate to restore it.


[23-Jan-20 04:47 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Because Bernie could polarize it even more


[23-Jan-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah it turns out that hasn't happened


[23-Jan-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
as I pointed out already


[23-Jan-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump has _attempted_ to smear Sanders but the criticisms have mostly bounced off


[23-Jan-20 04:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump will get vicious because he is most likely going to face crimeral charges when he leaves office so he had a motive to run again


[23-Jan-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
He's already wanted to be removed from office by a popular majority of voters


[23-Jan-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who think socialism ruined venezuela are already republican to begin with


[23-Jan-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
venezuela was ruined by a corrupt government who basically did what trump is doing now and hoarded tax payer money for their richest elite


[23-Jan-20 04:55 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Your Trump voter doesn't care about that


[23-Jan-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were never going to vote for bernie to begin with so that card means nothing


[23-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and your average trump voter is not bernie sander's demographic


[23-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people who are voting bernie are doing so because they are hyper aware of whats going on in america


[23-Jan-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of bernie's supporters see trump as a raving dementia patient who cant make coherent sentences


[23-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is not going to sway them


[23-Jan-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a lot of people see biden as a raving dementia patient as well, stuck in the 60's and riding obama's ass for notoriety'


[23-Jan-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point biden is widely regarded as a republican running as democrat


[23-Jan-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is why rich investors fall head over heels for him


[23-Jan-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden also does something stupid every 2 days or so


[23-Jan-20 05:02 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I would take Biden because we need to restore the country politically. Unless Bernie Sanders changes his approach he isn't going to win


[23-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
no evidence...


[23-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden politically has nothing but his accomplishments during the obama era, every political move he made before that was pretty much republican


[23-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden wouldnt change shit in fact he might make it worse


[23-Jan-20 05:04 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A non monolithic party. Polarized population and an opponent who has no honor


[23-Jan-20 05:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie is not going to fare well against those odds


[23-Jan-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does trump not having honor have to do with anything


[23-Jan-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't counter any of my evidence, mainly that
- the presidency is a popularity contest
- Sanders is the most popular politician in the country


[23-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fact that sanders has honor actually makes him fair far better against trump


[23-Jan-20 05:06 PM] Sally Moon#4922
People know Trump was a sack of lard before they voted for him


[23-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because in a debate it will be obvious who is lying out their teeth


[23-Jan-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
people also thought Clinton was literally the devil


[23-Jan-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't think that about Sanders


[23-Jan-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2016 was an incomparable dumpster fire


[23-Jan-20 05:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
They think Bernie is the crazy leftist


[23-Jan-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
clearly they like the crazy leftist


[23-Jan-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dnc was largely bought out by clinton, this year the rules for the DNC have changed drastically to prevent that shit from reoccuring


[23-Jan-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
otherwise he wouldn't be the most popular politician in the country, would he? :^)


[23-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should absolutely go farther left


[23-Jan-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
our left is like, right wing in other countries


[23-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is so far right he;s practically up mcconnell's anus


[23-Jan-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in other countries bernie is more in the center as far as political alignment goes


[23-Jan-20 05:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
you two are too wishful


[23-Jan-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie sanders is the bare minimum requirement for being left wing


[23-Jan-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
are my FACTS and LOGIC too much for you? :^)


[23-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Sally Moon#4922
...


[23-Jan-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're so far in the right that simple left wing policies seem far left


[23-Jan-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
you still have no coherent defense of why Sanders can't win


[23-Jan-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
you have repeatedly tried to change the question to "well, he won't be effective in office" (wrong)


[23-Jan-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
and have offered lame ass defenses like "we need to be more moderate to get the vote"


[23-Jan-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
when the evidence actually says quite otherwise


[23-Jan-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Don't go too far left you might scare the conservatives away"


[23-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I already said as much his message won't win over people. He has to soften it or he will lose


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he needs to harden it actually


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I can also say that the Nazis weren't killing Jews


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't make it true


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
We need the conservative vote


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives are a minority


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
America is on board with progressives


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservative vote is killing america


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
voters _prefer_ their policies


[23-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Isolating them will push them into voting for Trump.


[23-Jan-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservative vote can quite frankly bite down on a brick


[23-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives were going to vote for Trump anyway


[23-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't see how that matters


[23-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
the outcome of an election is virtually always determined by the relative popularity of the candidates


[23-Jan-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
particularly, by the popularity of the progressive candidate


[23-Jan-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the conservative candidate gets a baseline number of votes because the GOP has a solid voting bloc in conservatives


[23-Jan-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
progressives win when independents and democrats turn out to vote


[23-Jan-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump already has the conservative base, and the amount of batshit insanity amongst conservatives has pushed the moderates amongst them to the left


[23-Jan-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
you get them to turn out by running popular progressive candidates


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
if you offer a politically damaged candidate like Clinton


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
they won't turn out


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Clinton was cleared of wrongdoing


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden is rather politically damaged and has a lot working against him


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah I know she was


[23-Jan-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clinton was also conservative as fuck


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying that Clinton is guilty of anything


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm saying she wasn't _popular_


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is the actual reason no one liekd her


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
do you not understand the distinction?


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Sally Moon#4922
She won the popular vote


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the popular vote is not equal to popularity


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but she was also up against trump


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
how many times do I have to explain this


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s not that hard to do


[23-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
FPTP systems create perverse incentives


[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
when you ask someone on a scale of 1-10 "do you like this candidate"


[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
that measures popularity


[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/gop/status/1220039754558967808?s=21

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https://twitter.com/gop/status/1220039754558967808?s=21
Despite Democrats’ best efforts, President @realDonaldTrump is more popular than ever! https://t.co/iv29VM1VUr
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[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
when you ask someone whether they prefer Clinton or Trump, as FPTP elections do


[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she won the popular vote because people were desperate to keep trump out of office


[23-Jan-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
that is a different question


[23-Jan-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
so, to recap, popular vote ≠ popularity


[23-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump's current approval rating is at 42%


[23-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders? _65%_


[23-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
that is among the highest approval ratings of any peacetime politician ever


[23-Jan-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
(W got high 90s after 9/11)


[23-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You aren't seeing things how I see them.


[23-Jan-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, because you aren't looking at the actual data


[23-Jan-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I have actual evidence to back this stuff up


[23-Jan-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
you're just conveying emotions


[23-Jan-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well you arent providing any evidence to make us see your point


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
```are my FACTS and LOGIC too much for you? :^)```


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
HOOOOOOOO


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You are telling me Bernie is going to win yet you do not think of how effective he will be when he gets into office


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a different question


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we crossthat bridge when we get to it


[23-Jan-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
see above

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[23-Jan-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his effectiveness is dependent not on him but on the congressional election happening alongside the presidential election


[23-Jan-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what you really want to be asking on that effect is, "how are the approval ratings of the congressional candidates in the democratic party?"


[23-Jan-20 05:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It matters little if he loses against Trump


[23-Jan-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it matters a ton if democrats outnumber republicans in congress


[23-Jan-20 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
1. in presidential elections, the more popular candidate is favored to win
2. Sanders is the more popular candidate
--
∴ Sanders is favored to win


[23-Jan-20 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
what exactly about this syllogism does not follow?


[23-Jan-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if democrats take congress but trump isnt removed, then democrats will hold another impeachment trial and remove trump themselves


[23-Jan-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will also begin passing a shit ton of bills to reclaim power to the legislative branch


[23-Jan-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these bills will be veto proof


[23-Jan-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the points you're making are focused on the legislative branch not the executive branch


[23-Jan-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure they understand syllogistic reasoning tbh


[23-Jan-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
let alone distinction between branches of government


[23-Jan-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/three-branches/three-branches-of-government

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Our federal government has three parts. They are the Executive, (President and about 5,000,000 workers) Legislative (Senate and House of Representatives) and Judicial (Supreme Court and lower Courts).


[23-Jan-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
presidents don't make the laws, they just stamp them into power


[23-Jan-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can propose laws, but it;s up to the legislative branch to make those proposals into something useful


[23-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I know what the branches of government are


[23-Jan-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
why doesn't my syllogism hold?


[23-Jan-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
according to RCP, Biden has a 43% approval rating


[23-Jan-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's only a percentage point better than Trump


[23-Jan-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump could honestly thrash biden into next tuesday because biden would pretty much have the same base as hillary


[23-Jan-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile bernie sanders doesn't appeal solely to conservatives like hillary clinton did, He has the progressive base which is tired of conservative bullshit and ready to take a wrecking ball to the foundation of america


[23-Jan-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Society was a mistake


[23-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Such a grandiose statement Pineapple


[23-Jan-20 05:38 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump could use that to his advantage


[23-Jan-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
are you going to answer my question


[23-Jan-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has already used that to his advantage and failed hard


[23-Jan-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump already has the conservative base, therels no conservatives left to coerce


[23-Jan-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and conservatives are already eating moderates like a pack of wild hyenas and chasing them out of the republican party


[23-Jan-20 05:41 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Biden has to win because he is the one with experience. If Trump wasn't such a screw up I could take comfort in Warren but Trump screwed up so bad the US needs someone who understands foreign policy


[23-Jan-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
okay, so you're not answering the question then


[23-Jan-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
you clearly have no interest in a good faith argument


[23-Jan-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
bye


[23-Jan-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie has several decades worth od congressional experience


[23-Jan-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and civil rights experience


[23-Jan-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden barely even has the experience of a vice president


[23-Jan-20 05:44 PM] Sally Moon#4922
We need our country to be healed and that is why I'm siding with Biden. Bernie Sanders will just be a lame duck


[23-Jan-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Sanders served as a U.S. Representative for 16 years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2006


[23-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden wont heal the country, he'll sell it tot he highest bidders to appease his base


[23-Jan-20 05:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I believe Biden will heal the country.


[23-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
evidence


[23-Jan-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provide it please


[23-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't have it


[23-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-racist-myth-black-parents_n_5e2215a9c5b674e44b980327

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-racist-myth-black-parents_n_5e2215a9c5b674e44b980327
Joe Biden Doubles Down On A Racist Myth About Black Parents
The former vice president repeated a debunked trope about the racial achievement gap and blamed minority parents for the legacy of segregation.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5e222d9a220000320047304c.jpeg?ops=1778_1000


[23-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/real-history-school-desegregation-1954-present

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https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/real-history-school-desegregation-1954-present
The real history of school desegregation, from 1954 to the present
One of the oddest features of the 2019–20 Democratic primary season has been the return of the busing issue. Half a century ago, it nearly tore the party apart. Judicially mandated reassignment of students to achieve racial balance proved to be the most unpopular policy sin...
http://fordhaminstitute.org/sites/default/files/styles/featured_image_size/public/2020-01/sd-1-17-20.jpg?itok=-0Nxo67a


[23-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
And?


[23-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/60842-while-bernie-sanders-has-always-stood-up-for-african-americans-joe-biden-has-repeatedly-let-us-down

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https://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/60842-while-bernie-sanders-has-always-stood-up-for-african-americans-joe-biden-has-repeatedly-let-us-down
While Bernie Sanders Has Always Stood Up for African Americans, Jo...
Turner writes: In choosing between the two Democratic Party candidates atop the polls, African American voters have a consequential decision to make.
https://readersupportednews.org/images/stories/article_imgs37/037537-turner-011620.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
People change overtime


[23-Jan-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/17/biden-accidentally-makes-case-medicare-all-admitting-employers-can-take-away-your

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/17/biden-accidentally-makes-case-medicare-all-admitting-employers-can-take-away-your
Biden Accidentally Makes Case for Medicare for All by Admitting Em...
"No you don't have the choice, but you had the choice to — that's why — I'm not saying, I said, if you like your plan, you can keep it, assuming — I should add the obvious — if your employer doesn't take it away from you. OK?"
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/joe_biden_1.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Shit here we go
The fucking shit talks
Shit
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/march-for-life-2020-trump-to-become-first-president-to-speak-in-person-at-washington-anti-abortion-rally-2020-01-22/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/march-for-life-2020-trump-to-become-first-president-to-speak-in-person-at-washington-anti-abortion-rally-2020-01-22/
Trump to become first president to speak in person at anti-abortio...
Vice President Mike Pence had previously been the highest-ranking member of any presidential administration to attend.
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/01/27/b8a17248-b1c7-4467-8fed-b54f3616d2b1/thumbnail/1200x630/26392bf649acf57307054194a6c6ddb2/march-for-life-ap-17027733718743.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So you want me to go with Bernie Sanders?


[23-Jan-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden
Political positions of Joe Biden
Joe Biden served as the Vice President of the United States from 2009 to 2017 and in the United States Senate from 1973 until 2009. He made his second run for President of the United States in the 2008 presidential election as a Democrat, later being announced as Democratic p...


[23-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm providing my evidence


[23-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-biden-senate-record-controversies-20190318-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-biden-senate-record-controversies-20190318-story.html
The burden of a 40-year career: Some of Joe Biden’s record doesn...
Joe Biden is carrying a 20th century voting record into a 21st century political dogfight.
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f085e75/2147483647/strip/true/crop/2045x1074+0+38/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F54%2F74%2F7e9aff4de97ded88178b7a42b01a%2Fla-1552900886-8tc3yfyk9w-snap-image


[23-Jan-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody here is going to tell you "you must vote for Sanders"


[23-Jan-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people may change over time, but biden is stills tanding by these policies


[23-Jan-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt a healing president


[23-Jan-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
what we will say is "Biden's policies are antiquated, his support is lackluster, and he is not popular"


[23-Jan-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wont tell you who to vote for but i will present my evidence to your contrary


[23-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I believe a moderate is who will heal the country.


[23-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation

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https://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation
Legislation
The Official U.S. Senate website of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.


[23-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/06/bernie-sanders-civil-rights-movement-activism

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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/06/bernie-sanders-civil-rights-movement-activism
Why Bernie Sanders’s History of Racial Justice Activism Matters
Shaun King on the importance of Bernie Sanders's lifelong dedication to anti-racist struggle, from the 1960s to today.
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/21170544/ber-e1529674622491.jpg


[23-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Bernie_Sanders

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Bernie_Sanders
Political positions of Bernie Sanders
The political positions of Bernie Sanders are reflected by his United States Senate voting record, public speeches, and interviews. A self-described democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders is an independent senator from Vermont who has served in government since 1981.
In 2016, S...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Bernie-signature.png


[23-Jan-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ontheissues.org/Economic/Bernie_Sanders_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm
https://www.ontheissues.org/2020/Joe_Biden_Welfare_+_Poverty.htm


[23-Jan-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-poll-election-2020-biden-bloomberg-1483423

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https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-poll-election-2020-biden-bloomberg-1483423
Bernie Sanders leads Donald Trump by widest margin of all 2020 can...
The poll asked voters to choose between President Donald Trump and each Democratic candidate as though the election was being held today.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1561903/bernie-sanders-trump-2020-poll-biden-bloomberg.jpg


[23-Jan-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2386f9f4af34d81ae32629dead464af3 trump's approval ratings also worsen as he does shit like this

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https://apnews.com/2386f9f4af34d81ae32629dead464af3
Trump aims to remove waterway protections, aiding developers
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration appears ready to move ahead with its plan to remove protections for some of the nation's millions of miles of streams, wetlands and arroyos, completing...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/e6d75adfce25432db585d2d2931606ca/3000.jpeg


[23-Jan-20 06:04 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Thats why we need to vote someone who can beat him.


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders has a much better chance of that


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden's and Trump's popularities are about on par


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wICKnUdewY and this

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ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wICKnUdewY
Trump: US never agreed to protect Kurds in Syria l ABC News
President Donald Trump decided earlier this month to pull U.S. troops out of northeastern Syria, allowing Turkey to attack the U.S.-allied Syrian Kurds. READ MORE: https://abcn.ws/2J97IFy

President Donald Trump on Monday, again defending his decision to withdraw U.S. forces ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6wICKnUdewY/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is far ahead of both


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
1. in presidential elections, the more popular candidate is favored to win
2. Sanders is the more popular candidate
--
∴ Sanders is favored to win


[23-Jan-20 06:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sanders voters may also be the most likely to revolt from the party line


[23-Jan-20 06:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
So not voting Sanders torpedos the dems


[23-Jan-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden actually holds a lot of similar positions to trump minus the overwhelming arrogance of it all


[23-Jan-20 06:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
...don't remind me of the Kurds


[23-Jan-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Don't dodge our arguments


[23-Jan-20 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRkSdX1ItA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRkSdX1ItA
Biji YPG
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/raRkSdX1ItA/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jan-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will absolutely remind you of the kurds


[23-Jan-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
If you're not interested in holding an argument, it's likely you'll be muted


[23-Jan-20 06:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Muted for what reason?


[23-Jan-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
bad faith


[23-Jan-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you haven't provided any evidence, all you;ve basically argued is the equivalent of "no u"


[23-Jan-20 06:10 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So you want me to lie to you


[23-Jan-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
No, I want you to show me literally any evidence or shut the fuck up


[23-Jan-20 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the moderates sided with Hitler


[23-Jan-20 06:11 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That was a long time ago


[23-Jan-20 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just posted a mountain of evidence, and you provided nothing


[23-Jan-20 06:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Moderates also facilitated the explosion of the US into a literal prison society


[23-Jan-20 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But bernie is too left" is not a valid argument without evidence


[23-Jan-20 06:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
We straight up command a population in number and capita higher than that of the Stalinist gulags


[23-Jan-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for the venezuela card, i can point to any scandinavian country as an example of positive socialism


[23-Jan-20 06:13 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I want the country to be healed. Bernie will have to compromise or dial it back.


[23-Jan-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Not an argument


[23-Jan-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden will do nothing but compromise, mostly to the republicans


[23-Jan-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll give you another chance to present literally any evidence


[23-Jan-20 06:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
March the snakes into the sea.


[23-Jan-20 06:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Saint Bernie of Eire Vermont


[23-Jan-20 06:15 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Comprising is the only way. You can't just ignore them.


[23-Jan-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Again not an argument


[23-Jan-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
countries dont heal without making hard choices, biden doesnt make hard choices, he makes easy money based choices


[23-Jan-20 06:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPvskN7MkIw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPvskN7MkIw
Joe Biden's Long, Bad Career | Chapo Trap House | Episode 289
Joe Biden has had a hand in basically every bad policy of the last 30 years.

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[23-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
compromising slightly to pass social democratic measures is better than compromising all of your values to please a republican base


[23-Jan-20 06:17 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Byte you can mute me.


[23-Jan-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to wait for Nebbie to trounce you


[23-Jan-20 06:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
How long will I be muted?


[23-Jan-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-bolton-analysis/trump-will-have-hard-time-blocking-potential-bolton-trial-testimony-idUSKBN1ZM1PA

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-bolton-analysis/trump-will-have-hard-time-blocking-potential-bolton-trial-testimony-idUSKBN1ZM1PA
Trump will have hard time blocking potential Bolton trial testimony
President Donald Trump would have a tough time blocking John Bolton's testi...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200123&t=2&i=1480243202&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0M18V


[23-Jan-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-protester/protester-shouting-dismiss-the-charges-briefly-interrupts-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1ZM001

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-protester/protester-shouting-dismiss-the-charges-briefly-interrupts-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1ZM001
Protester shouting 'dismiss the charges' briefly interrupts Trump ...
A protester burst into the Senate visitor gallery shouting "dismiss the cha...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources_v2/images/rcom-default.png


[23-Jan-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol "moderate who will heal the country"


[23-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes yes, Biden is a moderate, on issues like "should blakk people be segregated?"


[23-Jan-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
He chooses the middle option of "mostly"


[23-Jan-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's strength is he can reach across the aisle to work with fasctists, islamic extremist terrorists, christian extremist terrorists, anti-vaxxers, soccer moms who want video games banned, wealthy child rapists, TERFs, and radical zionists.


[23-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why he has so much support in the South


[23-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could very well secure him the Democratic nomination


[23-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he's a weaker candidate vs. Trump than Bernie is.


[23-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden vs. Trump is an easy mudslinging fight for Trump, where Biden only wins cause the middle chooses the lesser evil.


[23-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump can easily say "you're no different" as Biden says racist shit, and some moderates just vote Trump out of spite, similar to what they did with Hillary.


[23-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie vs. Trump is a much harder fight for Trump because those tactics won't work, Bernie actually has a proven progressive record and is clearly a polar opposite that supports much more popular policies.


[23-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump went after Boden because he knew Biden had the best chance of beating him. Trump doesn't go after Bernie because he know he can beat Bernie


[23-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, it's more important to go after who you think you'll be fighting, regardless of who would fight you best.


[23-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know how primaries work, right?


[23-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
No


[23-Jan-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's pretty simple


[23-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
each party has their own sort of pre-election election


[23-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
it works differently between the two, but the things that are the same are that you win by grabbing up "delegates"


[23-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
some states restrict voting to registered party members


[23-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
others restrict it so that a voter can only vote in one primary


[23-Jan-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
others still don't hav voters actually vote


[23-Jan-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(caucuses are instead sort of big debates by supporters where people can switch sides)


[23-Jan-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Delegates are then held to what the voters or caucuses said


[23-Jan-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
mostly, with some defections possible depending on the exact nature of the state law


[23-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
also Democrats hav "superdelegates", which just go with who the party leadership wants


[23-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates are why Bernie literally could not hav won against Hillary like halfway into the primary.


[23-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to be the party's nominee, you **must** win the primary.


[23-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
AND


[23-Jan-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some states hav a LAW that says if you lose a primary, you CANNOT run in the general election period.


[23-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
(not even under another party)


[23-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means that if Bernie loses the primary, he is ***out***


[23-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Trump is banking on that.


[23-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is the popular candidate within the Democratic leadership, which wants a racist corrupt person who will help the rich like them.


[23-Jan-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means he has the superdelegates.


[23-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, the primary happens *nationwide*


[23-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is super popular in the north where he could snag tons of delegates, especially in caucuses because Biden's policy is unarguable.


[23-Jan-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
But southern delegates will just plain outnumber


[23-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
once things come to the South, all the racists come out in droves and say they don't want none of that shit that would actually heal the racial scars


[23-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want daddy Biden to stomp on the blakks


[23-Jan-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want some atheist jew going around acting like all people are created equal.


[23-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Biden is likely to face off vs. Trump.


[23-Jan-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Understand, @Sally Moon?


[23-Jan-20 06:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
yes


[23-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, the wildcard here is that Democrats are changing


[23-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives are getting chased out of the party


[23-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
the party as it is now takes seriously ideas like medicare for all


[23-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
this was unfathomable 10 years ago


[23-Jan-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie basically took over the party in the Senate after Hillary lost.


[23-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, people who aren't racist or super christian are getting chased out of the Republican party


[23-Jan-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
This filtering effect will eventually mean Biden will hav no support from his own party, only Republican/moderate support


[23-Jan-20 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Support from the fringes of the other party is not reliable.


[23-Jan-20 07:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I see


[23-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The other big complication is Biden keeps doing gaffes


[23-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
he was infamous for it during Obama's run as president, but they were a lot milder


[23-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will sometimes forget what he's saying midsentence


[23-Jan-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is a sign of dementia.


[23-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The really striking one was "There's no difference between poor kids and white kids"


[23-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was clearly intended to be talking about either poor and rich or blakk and white, which are correlated, and he conflated midway.


[23-Jan-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conflating midway reveals the racist thinking involved in what would otherwise be a statement against racism/classism.


[23-Jan-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden probably still will win the primary.


[23-Jan-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he doesn't die first.


[23-Jan-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Sally Moon you know Biden's stance on healthcare, right, btw?


[23-Jan-20 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How old is Biden?


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
77?


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's a Silent.


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not even a Boomer.


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
his age isn't as important as his severe dementia


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If dubs Biden comes to the next debate and even more severely fucks up his image


[23-Jan-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's already committed a gaffe by accidentally calling Bernie "president"


[23-Jan-20 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has also said he wants a republican running mate, so if he dies while in office you'd just have a new republican president


[23-Jan-20 07:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Biden is indecisive om healthcare


[23-Jan-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is very decisive on healthcare actually


[23-Jan-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his stance is that insurance companies should have free reign with a bit of regulating


[23-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
No he isn't.


[23-Jan-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't know his actual policy, No Name.


[23-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has been AGGRESSIVELY anti-medicare-for-all


[23-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
and pro-ACA


[23-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is against anything but the most incremental changes to it


[23-Jan-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
saying that we'll lose it if we do a rewrite


[23-Jan-20 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, to rack up that bourgeois support


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He ran an ad saying that if we tried to do something different, his son Beau wouldn't've gotten end-of-life care for Joe to say goodbye to him.


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is actually a complete and utter lie btw


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of his more infamous gaffes was saying that medicare under him would be cheap but with no quality for the people on it


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
it wasn't Obamacare that kept Beau alive, insurance companies cut him off despite the ACA


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was OBAMA that kept Beau alive.


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
By gifting Joe money


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How ironic


[23-Jan-20 07:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hunter is the only pure Biden.


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Who else goes to Skid Row to suck dick for crack


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not the Trump kids


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Beau Biden, not Hunter


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hunter for president, not Joe


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hunter probably saved an elephant.


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Don Jr. probably murdered thousands


[23-Jan-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Sally Moon so do you agree with Joe Biden on healthcare?


[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Wo4Waojh8

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[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system under which his own son needed a gift from a rich president to be given end-of-life care.


[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which he says is essential to not change or else we won't be able to get such.


[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I am unsure


[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
What the fukk are you unsure about?


[23-Jan-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you buy Joe's argument or not?


[23-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
His argument is that X (ACA keeping Beau alive) is true, therefore Y (the ACA remaining in place to do this, which implies X) is necessary.


[23-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
X is false.


[23-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is this argument valid?


[23-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it is, do you agree with it?


[23-Jan-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Y -> X, !X, .*. Y


[23-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Sally Moon ?


[23-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I agree


[23-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you agree with an invalid argument.


[23-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
no


[23-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't understand why it's invalid, do you?


[23-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Y implies X, X is false, therefore Y is true.


[23-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the argument.


[23-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sorry


[23-Jan-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Y was true, then X would be true.


[23-Jan-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
X is not true.


[23-Jan-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, Y is not true.


[23-Jan-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't understand the arguments being made, why do you choose a side?


[23-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
A politician literally lied to you to support his position, you were told of the lie, and then you supported his position.


[23-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
At that point you might as well get in full Daddy Biden bondage gear and make animal noises for him.


[23-Jan-20 07:31 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I am not mindless.


[23-Jan-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if I tell you that a certain law was essential in saving a family member


[23-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that is not true, they were saved by my friend, who signed the law, gifting me money:


[23-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Would that make me a liar?


[23-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
2. Should I be listened to on the matter?


[23-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
3. Should you support that law outright without considering alternatives?


[23-Jan-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
3 yes/no questions, answer them.


[23-Jan-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Sally Moon are you having trouble with the questions?


[23-Jan-20 07:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
yes


[23-Jan-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
What are you having trouble with?


[23-Jan-20 07:43 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't understand the question, Nor do I care for Biden's stance on Healthcare.


[23-Jan-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so put on the Daddy Biden bondage gear


[23-Jan-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't understand basic argument and sentences and you don't care about something that could literally be life or death for you


[23-Jan-20 07:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You insult...


[23-Jan-20 07:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
me


[23-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[23-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are like, grade school questions about a basic story.


[23-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
You say you can't understand them and don't care about literally the only thing between you having an accident or coming down with a disease and dying from it.


[23-Jan-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are either a moron or willfully malicious.


[23-Jan-20 07:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Then I guess I'm an idiot then


[23-Jan-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I think we already established the "can't argue" thing


[23-Jan-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
When they were unable to respond to whether my syllogism was valid


[23-Jan-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcRCpUFBPac more of the insanity

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The Senate impeachment trial of President Trump continues with opening arguments from House managers and the President’s defense team.
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[23-Jan-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479562-senators-allow-classified-evidence-from-pence-aide-for-impeachment-trial

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Senators allow classified evidence from Pence aide for impeachment...
Senators on Wednesday night agreed to admit a classified document from an aide to Vice President Pence into the impeachment trial following closed-door deliberations.
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[23-Jan-20 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nice


[23-Jan-20 08:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/health/snakes-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-conversation-partner/index.html

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Snakes could be the source of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak
Snakes -- the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra -- may be the original source of the newly discovered coronavirus that has triggered an outbreak of a deadly infectious respiratory illness in China this winter.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200122180833-chinese-cobra-file-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[23-Jan-20 08:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/Wwa-NYX25II?t=14

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[23-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Constitution is not a suicide pact"


[23-Jan-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait who said that


[23-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
paraphrasing Abraham Lincoln


[23-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
when he suspended *habeus corpus* unconstitutionally


[23-Jan-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[23-Jan-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like how republicans keep accusing democrats of going in circles when they;ve done exactly the same


[23-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Guys is it ok to keep infected ppl in quarantine against their will to stop plague spreading?


[23-Jan-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
depends on the type of quarantine but mostly yes


[23-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/china-wuhan-coronavirus-quarantine-extended-cities-cut-off-2020-1%3famp

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China extended its Wuhan coronavirus quarantine to 2 more cities, ...
Huanggang and Ezhou joined Wuhan in shutting down transport links on Thursday. The WHO says the quarantine is "unprecedented in public health history."
https://i.insider.com/5e2995eb62fa812eba0d7ce2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Jan-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they were able to freely go out of quarantine amongst the population, it would fuck over everyone and get out of control


[23-Jan-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the question is, will china do any research in thhose quarantined areas


[23-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nadler said that


[23-Jan-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
research and treatment is typically one of the reasons to have a quarantine


[23-Jan-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s part of what allowed an ebola vaccine to be produced without it spreading too far to treat


[23-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/262042085560025099/669997292513919016/mobile-chart-twenty-states.jpg

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[23-Jan-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what about the trees! who will speak for the trees!


[23-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
lorax


[23-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nope he was deported.


[23-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mexican gangs than sold his organs on the blakk market.


[23-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sad:


[23-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trees said "OH GOD WHY" and that was that.


[23-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We had this fight in the 1780s.


[23-Jan-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, we did, and it would have been fine if it weren't for racism


[23-Jan-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/images/2200740

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[23-Jan-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
at least it wasn't tagged "op is a duck" and "op is trying to start shit" like 90% of political art posted


[23-Jan-20 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside nooo not the innocent sneks :sad:


[23-Jan-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie so your mom is privileged in regards to voting rights?

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[23-Jan-20 09:57 PM] jlun2#8758
Raricow for pres @Nebbie


[23-Jan-20 10:59 PM] ononim#8141
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[23-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, ideally they would be the same


[23-Jan-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
good public transportation leads to less traffic


[23-Jan-20 11:08 PM] ononim#8141
you can't constantly drive on max speed on car tho, no matter how little traffic there is


[23-Jan-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479584-white-house-says-trump-wasnt-boasting-about-withholding-material-from

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White House says Trump wasn't boasting about withholding material ...
White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said Thursday that President Trump wasn’t bragging about withholding evidence from Congress when he said he had “all the material” and "they don't have the material" in the imp
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump_012120getty.jpg


[23-Jan-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, so he was just wrong then


[23-Jan-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
instead of wrong and stupid


[23-Jan-20 11:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1220471611477786624?s=21

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True! https://t.co/OPTBdNOQrD
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[23-Jan-20 11:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuk


[23-Jan-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck new hampshire


[23-Jan-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel bad for the poor town about to be bankrupt fromt he cost of his security


[24-Jan-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
remember the guy who wanted a $50 minimum wage, then complained about being called a Marxist?


[24-Jan-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610

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[24-Jan-20 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
What does that even mean


[24-Jan-20 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated: https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1220475659031580672

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Um, the people of Puerto Rico are carrying a guillotine to the Governor’s mansion right now. https://t.co/uAeH1WoLcN
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[24-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont blame them


[24-Jan-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the governor hoarded a warehouse of hurricane relief supplies from the public


[24-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also


[24-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1220095416752115718

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Pompeo: "The protests taking place today in Lebanon are saying to Hizballah, 'No mas.'  No more."
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[24-Jan-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lebanon is one of the thirty Mexican countries in the world


[24-Jan-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They like tacos n shit apparently


[24-Jan-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we take a guillotine to the republican senate and trump?


[24-Jan-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have to use it. just broadly gesture to the possibility


[24-Jan-20 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe with some very labeled melons


[24-Jan-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/57-of-likely-voters-support-removing-trump-from-office-poll-finds/ar-BBZ9SUT

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57% of likely voters support removing Trump from office, poll finds
As the Senate begins its second day of the trial of President Donald Trump, a Microsoft News poll finds that 57 percent of likely voters support removing him from office.


[24-Jan-20 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's really interesting but the one key missing bit of detail on their methodology is what they mean by "likely voter" and how they qualified and measured it


[24-Jan-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
White.


[24-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly "likely voter" gets thrown around so much and I'm pretty sure it just means "we looked at who's registered and called up the old white ones"


[24-Jan-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That or they did a survey to begin with, then asked people demographic info like "are you white?" and then looked at percentages of how many white people vs. not vote etc. and adjusted the responses proportionally


[24-Jan-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, it will always be wrong.


[24-Jan-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is of course the more direct method, where you just ask whether someone will vote.


[24-Jan-20 12:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm guessing that of those three, that was what was going on here - or they were prescreened


[24-Jan-20 12:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it is just a guess


[24-Jan-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I don't think that differs from the general population


[24-Jan-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, 43% of people think bribing a foreign gov't to announce your political rival is corrupt is not removable for


[24-Jan-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of that is Trump's base


[24-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-increasingly-back-the-gops-move-to-block-impeachment-witnesses/

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Republican Voters Increasingly Back The GOP’s Move To Block Impe...
On Tuesday, the impeachment trial of President Trump featured hours of acrimonious debate over whether witnesses should be called and what a fair process would …
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[24-Jan-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the fox news effect


[24-Jan-20 01:35 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-virus-everything-we-know-deadly-2019-ncov-wuhan-spread-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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The Wuhan coronavirus has killed 25 people and infected more than ...
Chinese authorities have confirmed more than 830 cases of the deadly Wuhan coronavirus, which has spread to other parts of China and other countries.
https://i.insider.com/5e26d16262fa8126b70e6a03?width=1200&format=jpeg


[24-Jan-20 01:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[24-Jan-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
aren;t blue is like


[24-Jan-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
French colour


[24-Jan-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
as opposed to red being english


[24-Jan-20 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yea. The French.
https://youtu.be/QSo0duY7-9s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSo0duY7-9s
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - The Insulting Frenchman
from the title movie, where King Arthur and his knights stumble across a castle. There they meet the most insulting Frenchman ever.
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[24-Jan-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479675-senate-republicans-confident-theyll-win-fight-on-witnesses

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Senate Republicans confident they'll win fight on witnesses
Senate Republican leaders feel confident they will have the votes to block the Democrats’ attempt to subpoena additional witnesses and documents in President Trump’s impeachment trial, which could allow the proceeding to wrap up by the end of next
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[24-Jan-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does anyone have the Boomer trolley image


[24-Jan-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because someone basically made the exact argument to Warren and it's being presented as a loss for her


[24-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[24-Jan-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt biden make that exact arguement about healthcare. it wouldnt be fair to his dead son if other people got better care?


[24-Jan-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if someone found the cure for cancer and people were like "Whoa, that's unfair to everyone that died of cancer, stop now"


[24-Jan-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) woooorse


[24-Jan-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
so much worse


[24-Jan-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can't feed those homeless now! That would mean all the other homeless without food died in vain


[24-Jan-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's argument was that if we do anything else to change healthcare, the ACA dies, and so people like Beau wouldn't get care


[24-Jan-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beau was getting care because OBAMA HIMSELF shelled out money out of pokket


[24-Jan-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ACA did nothing for Beau


[24-Jan-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Biden wants us to forget that fact and pretend that Beau getting end-of-life care was contingent on the ACA existing.


[24-Jan-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he should stop using his dead son for political gain


[24-Jan-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd just rather he not fukking lie in ads


[24-Jan-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact Biden is willing to outright lie about something he previously talked about in a book he wrote


[24-Jan-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather he just not...


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a political ad that just completely is designed to tear at your heartstrings


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just stop now and not


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
to scare you into avoiding improving healthcare


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not as bad as Trump, but that's not saying much.


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
In any sane system Biden would be barred from running.


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
didnt he also lie about military achievements of other people and himself?


[24-Jan-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a corrupt, sociopathic shithead.


[24-Jan-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure.


[24-Jan-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why should I fund the fire department? My house already burned down."


[24-Jan-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont remember specifics on that specific lie


[24-Jan-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's argument is "the ramshakkle fire department managed to make my house take 1 hour longer to burn down, so I could say goodbye to my son, so you shouldn't do this actual gov't system" when actually his rich neighbor who happened to hav also made the ramshakkle fire dept used their own personal firetrukk cause the ramshakkle one wasn't gonna bother.


[24-Jan-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if we put out this fire, then those other houses will have burned in vain!


[24-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Biden's real argument is


[24-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"just know rich people"


[24-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thing is, when Warren started talking healthcare


[24-Jan-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Just stop being poor, it worked for me at the ripe old age of 1minute old!"


[24-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bunch of rich white fukks started getting scared


[24-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and she lost support because of it


[24-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they worried that their top tier expensive healthcare would be slightly less amazing in comparison if everyone had gov't healthcare.


[24-Jan-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, Biden and his whole family were rich but they STILL needed Obama to step in


[24-Jan-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their insurance companies can burn if it means me getting actual health coverage


[24-Jan-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479679-trump-insists-he-will-save-social-security-after-signaling-openness

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Trump says he will 'save' Social Security after signaling openness...
President Trump on Thursday sought to assure his followers on Twitter that he would protect Social Security benefits after Democrats seized on an interview in which he indicated he would be open to cutting entitlement programs down the road.
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[24-Jan-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing trump he'll try to hold social security hostage for re0election purposes


[24-Jan-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Vote for me or i axe this program and everything that coems with it!"


[24-Jan-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
let him axe it


[24-Jan-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it'll kill his support singlehandedly


[24-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[24-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are those actual illustrations of what was seen in the Senate?


[24-Jan-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[24-Jan-20 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
:thinkspinner:

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[24-Jan-20 03:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/wheres-justice-roberts-internet-explodes-after-gop-senator-flouts-trial-rules-to-give-interview-to-fox-news-while-in-session/

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‘Where’s Justice Roberts?!’ Internet explodes after GOP sena...
On Wednesday evening, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) appeared to break the rules of the Senate impeachment trial by stepping out of the chamber to give an interview to Fox News’ Tucker Carlson: Ummm Tucker Carlson got Josh Hawley to step away from the impeachment hearing about an ...
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[24-Jan-20 03:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479631-marsha-blackburn-shares-what-book-shes-reading-during-trump-senate-trial

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Marsha Blackburn shares what book she's reading during Trump Senat...
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) said she read a book during the third day of proceedings of President Trump’s impeachment trial in the upper chamber on Thursday.
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[24-Jan-20 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fillibustering


[24-Jan-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Filly Busting

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[24-Jan-20 03:42 AM] illumnious#7938
:nut:


[24-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Sally Moon Here in MO we call him "The Golden Boy" and say that he thinks he can get away with anything


[24-Jan-20 04:10 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N6cmL7Nt38

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Trump Confesses Amid Senate Impeachment Trial: A Closer Look
Seth takes a closer look at House managers in the Senate impeachment trial seeking to prove that the president is a criminal who’s unfit for office.

Subscribe to Late Night: http://bit.ly/LateNightSeth
 
Watch Late Night with Seth Meyers Weeknights 12:35/11:35c on NBC.
 
G...
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[24-Jan-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I ventured into the cesspool https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop#In_written_debate

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Gish Gallop


[24-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey the YT vid example


[24-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/scientists-stop-thinking-explaining-science-will-fix-things?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Scientists, Stop Thinking Explaining Science Will Fix Things - Sla...
It won’t. Try this instead.
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[24-Jan-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
this article won't cut to the chase


[24-Jan-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
r/savedyouaclick:
> Rather than fill the information deficit by building an arsenal of facts, scientists should instead consider how they deploy their knowledge. They may have more luck communicating if, in addition to presenting facts and figures, they appeal to emotions.


[24-Jan-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, straight logos will not do it for idiots, assault them with pathos and ethos


[24-Jan-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PIDOOMA

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PIDOOMA


[24-Jan-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump's favorite


[24-Jan-20 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Jan-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I just love the image of someone in a Boy Scout uniform with a shit ton of heroin


[24-Jan-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Jan-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Grow opium, or lose your balls. By Allah we must exterminate the Russians!


[24-Jan-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Jan-20 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
CIA be like: ya we did it. And we'll do it again. No one cares about the Taliban. Watch this.


[24-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
to be fair, they won, or, they claimed they won. That's supposed to be their mission, government interests first, everything else never.


[24-Jan-20 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and government interests include financial and political groups first, and everyone else distant second (can't really say never here, but ehh)


[24-Jan-20 04:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well government interests also include narcotics policing. But the CIA presence always cock blocked DEA activity which is international. It was so bad the DEA office in Pakistan was basically threatening mass resigning over their inability to prosecute known traffickers.


[24-Jan-20 04:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
You got the DEA all, "let's eliminate drugs from the international market!"


[24-Jan-20 04:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then the CIA responding, "No"


[24-Jan-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51231047
> On Thursday, Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, handed out fidget spinners, a children's toy, to fellow senators to help them while away the hours in the chamber.

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Senators 'nap and play' in Trump impeachment trial
Senators have been seen chewing gum, handing out fidget spinners and sleeping during the trial.
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[24-Jan-20 05:03 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm picturing a bunch of old white men trying to look hip by playing what "zoomer toys" or something


[24-Jan-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well to be fair the fidget spinner was made to help deal with restlessness. It's the same idea as tapping or clicking your pen. And they are sorta being made to sit in on sixteen hour hearings where they're not supposed to leave except to piss or shit (except they do for other reasons anyways).


[24-Jan-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
They're also old geezers so of course they'll sleep otherwise


[24-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is so that Republicans can shut down their brains and not break rank, by doing something menial like using a fidget spinner.


[24-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they didn't bar smartphones, we'd be seeing Republican Senators playing Candy Crush etc.


[24-Jan-20 06:08 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm curious if Trump loses in 2020 would Republicans accept it, or nah claim Trump is still eternal pres


[24-Jan-20 08:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they'll spend the next few months trying make make the president coming in have a terrible time of cleaning up their mess, and trump will try to set himself up as president for life...


[24-Jan-20 08:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and when that fails, he'll just kill all the social progrAMS On the way out to make americans pay for their misdeeds, maybe throw us into another war to throw our troops under the bus


[24-Jan-20 08:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
priobably double down on all his hostile policies in an attempt to fuck america into the ground as revenge for losing while the republican senate supports him all the way


[24-Jan-20 08:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly literally attempt to sell us to russia


[24-Jan-20 08:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, this is all provided the dementia hasnt just wiped him the fuck out by then


[24-Jan-20 08:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think that may be accelerating given his recent speeches and behaviors


[24-Jan-20 08:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with all the stress he;s been worked into


[24-Jan-20 08:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with the way he talked in davos interviews


[24-Jan-20 08:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Musk does rockets good, We need to protect inventor of wheel"


[24-Jan-20 08:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Jan-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ff1a878fa9ab2c39a26b044e1f90e821

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Florida Supreme Court on the death penalty: We got it wrong
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — The Florida Supreme Court said Thursday it erred in 2016 when it ruled a jury must be unanimous in deciding a convicted murderer should be sentenced to death, announcing a...
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[24-Jan-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate it when you use racism to convict an innocent blakk guy and giv him the death penalty, but then things like common sense overturn it.


[24-Jan-20 10:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-thwarted-saudi-plot-kidnap-regime-critic-on-us-soil-2020-1

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The FBI reportedly stopped a Saudi plot to kidnap a YouTuber on US...
Abdulrahman Almutairi used social media to criticize the Saudi government. It appears to have almost cost him his life.
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[24-Jan-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a country we should be bombing to shit in the Middle East, and it's not called Iran.


[24-Jan-20 10:24 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
u want to bomb iraq again?


[24-Jan-20 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/018c580bae53539b80075a9fa8090b97

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Democrats struggle to build broad support on eve of voting
OSAGE, Iowa (AP) — As Joe Biden wrapped a bus tour of Iowa this week, the elderly crowd gathered at VFW Hall 7920 was a stark reminder of the former vice president's struggle to attract young...
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[24-Jan-20 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/56af92498f9a5f96433f36370a5dff56

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Now on Trump's team, Dershowitz says, 'I haven't changed'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Alan Dershowitz was in line at Mar-a-Lago's lavish Christmas Eve buffet last month when President Donald Trump stopped to chat. The retired Harvard law professor had...
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[24-Jan-20 10:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4254d3c337990447f8e2b983bd41fa0f

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Trial highlights: Conspiracy theories and fidget spinners
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats argued that President Donald Trump sought a phony investigation of a political rival and pursued a discredited conspiracy theory about Ukraine, while restless senators...
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[24-Jan-20 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's rumors of this but outside this tweet and a few not really reliable news sources i cant find much else

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[24-Jan-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/479449-judge-refuses-to-dismiss-lewdness-case-against-utah-woman-who-went

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Judge refuses to dismiss lewdness case against Utah woman who went...
A judge in Utah has denied a bid by a woman accused of lewdness to have the state's law declared unconstitutional on Wednesday after her attorneys argued that the statute discriminates against women.
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[24-Jan-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/479371-supreme-court-sharply-divided-over-state-aid-for-religious-schools

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Supreme Court sharply divided over state aid for religious schools
The Supreme Court on Wednesday grappled with whether religious schools can be excluded from government-backed scholarship programs in a case with potentially far-reaching implications for church-state relations.
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[24-Jan-20 11:20 AM] ononim#8141

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[24-Jan-20 12:38 PM] Opponent#3498
wow. 'Lewdness' laws.


[24-Jan-20 12:38 PM] Opponent#3498
the first time I've heard that word outside of bad anime.


[24-Jan-20 12:38 PM] Opponent#3498
also I wonder how badly must you treat your children to have cops instantly get called on you by them at the slightest provocation xD


[24-Jan-20 01:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://yasha.substack.com/p/weaponizing-fascism-for-democracy

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Weaponizing Fascism for Democracy: The Beginning
I’d like to start by going back to the end of World War II — to the days when the weaponization of nationalism was just beginning to crystalize as an American foreign policy strategy.
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[24-Jan-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
https://yasha.substack.com/p/immigrants-as-a-weapon-global-nationalism linked from that article.

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Immigrants as a Weapon: Global Nationalism and American Power
I’m launching a new project that looks at how America weaponizes nationalism and immigrant communities.
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[24-Jan-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda nice to see someone sees 'revolution of dignity' from this angle.


[24-Jan-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an unpopular thing to say in any media space these days.


[24-Jan-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea of the protest movement being organised, bankrolled and directed by US sounds too much like Cold War propaganda. Doesn't mean it's false.


[24-Jan-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479678-gop-warns-of-drawn-out-executive-privilege-battle-over-bolton-testimony

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GOP warns of 'drawn out' executive privilege battle over Bolton te...
Republicans are using the threat of a protracted executive privilege battle as a cudgel to dissuade their colleagues from calling former national security adviser John Bolton to testify at President Trump’s impeachment trial.
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[24-Jan-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479666-gop-cries-boredom-in-attack-on-impeachment-case

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GOP cries boredom in attack on impeachment case
Republicans are bored — and they hope the American public shares their tedium.
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[24-Jan-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they could probably alleviate soem of that boredomeby spicing up the drama with evidence!


[24-Jan-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
...shame the guy paywalled his take on Zelensky and Ukraine far-right.


[24-Jan-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
that would be an interesting read I think


[24-Jan-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
https://medium.com/@petercioth/volodymyr-zelensky-is-the-only-politician-more-postmodern-than-trump-and-perhaps-the-one-to-bring-9469abedc502 fun little take.

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Volodymyr Zelensky Is The Only Politician More Postmodern Than Tru...
Neither the Democratic nor Republican parties were able to stop Donald Trump in 2016 as he ascended first to the GOP nomination and then…
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[24-Jan-20 03:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Guys, I think I know why Bloomberg is running in the Dem primaries. He's playing the long game to steal votes from Biden so Buttegieg becomes a front runner. Then he'll become Buttegieg's running mate and 2020 will become Butt-Bloom


[24-Jan-20 03:25 PM] jlun2#8758
bloombutt


[24-Jan-20 03:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Buttberg


[24-Jan-20 03:30 PM] ononim#8141

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[24-Jan-20 03:30 PM] ononim#8141

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[24-Jan-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not. She can spin it into 'perfomance evaluation failure'.


[24-Jan-20 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine living in the US and believing in literal fairy tales


[24-Jan-20 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh I wouldn't disregard this shit as tetriary evidence. It's making decisions solely based on that, disregarding everything else that is a crime


[24-Jan-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[24-Jan-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds liek some walmart ass bullshit


[24-Jan-20 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/479206-conservatives-want-wisconsin-supreme-court-to-rule-on-blocking-voter

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A conservative group has asked Wisconsin's Supreme Court to overturn a ruling from a state appeals court blocking the removal of more than 200,000 voters from state voter rolls.
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[24-Jan-20 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/julia_nista/status/1220719028995608576?s=21

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Julia Nista — Text LIFE to 88022 (@julia_nista)
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At the @March_for_Life early with #WomenforTrump Board Member Dr. Shyla Valentine! @TeamTrump with #ProLifeVoicesForTrump —> find us for a sign!
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[24-Jan-20 04:41 PM] jlun2#8758
The Christain-Right is eternal and invincible


[24-Jan-20 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
Pro-life voices for who again


[24-Jan-20 04:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious  not sick grown ups, that for sure


[24-Jan-20 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[24-Jan-20 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
That useless douchebag


[24-Jan-20 04:42 PM] jlun2#8758
They go :nut:  on $300 insulin but screech in rage at abortion


[24-Jan-20 04:43 PM] jlun2#8758
Maybe we can get them to lobby against big pharma by somehow tying that to pro-choice


[24-Jan-20 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every $300 made on insulin goes to pro abortion charities!


[24-Jan-20 04:44 PM] jlun2#8758
The fact they seem young makes me think the Christian Right will never die; they just get younger people vote trump


[24-Jan-20 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll always exist in soem form, the key is to make their numbers extremely small


[24-Jan-20 04:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Pro abortion? You mean you should not be fucking in the first place


[24-Jan-20 04:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm more afraid that makes it more appealing; young people love to rebel and do the opposite of their parents


[24-Jan-20 04:46 PM] jlun2#8758
"You support pro choice, women rights, and freedom of religion? Time to do the opposite and go full blown nazi"


[24-Jan-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Time to sell my rights to russia!


[24-Jan-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds more like redneck teenage thinking than normal teenage thinking


[24-Jan-20 04:47 PM] jlun2#8758
my teenage was mostly hating everyone due to irl bullying 😛


[24-Jan-20 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
*Russian national anthem playing in the background*


[24-Jan-20 04:48 PM] jlun2#8758
that made it hard to rebel if just by existing others think I'm rebelling lol


[24-Jan-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what mainly turns teenagers to rebellion is being told not to do something or making something illegal,  you dont tell people not to join christian right groups, you teach the children the history of them


[24-Jan-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
education is a far better tool than denial


[24-Jan-20 04:51 PM] jlun2#8758
that fucked over people holding weed stocks thinking legalize weed would cause a boom in the industry due to tons of high teens, when in reality it made it less desirable to teens lol


[24-Jan-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, weed was cool because it was illegal and there was a thrill to it


[24-Jan-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now you can just fuckin buy it, so what's the point


[24-Jan-20 04:52 PM] jlun2#8758
pain relief ofc! 😃 
~old boomers in chronic pain


[24-Jan-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the legalization makes itso people dont need shit tons of pain pills to function because it acts as a natural pain releif


[24-Jan-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a stress releif


[24-Jan-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it eases symptoms of ptsd


[24-Jan-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
big pharma does not like this at all which is why it was criminalized in the first place


[24-Jan-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then they used it to take down hippies who were making people uncomfortaBLE about the war the government wanted


[24-Jan-20 04:55 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was illegalized due to racial stereotypes of minorities being druggies


[24-Jan-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s crack and cocaine


[24-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it was a similair effort focused on 2 different groups


[24-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was sort of a 2 birds one stone situation


[24-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get rid of big pharma's obstacle while taking down groups of people you despise


[24-Jan-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the war on drugs!


[24-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when i was a child, adults made it sound so easy to obtain drugs


[24-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was a load of bullshit and i still have no idea where to obtain drugs


[24-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
weed was used to criminalize the hippies


[24-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
crack was used to criminalize black people


[24-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
or so says the nixon associate


[24-Jan-20 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1220556820621729793

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Ahhh...

THAT'S why Joe Rogan ambushed me...

He's voting for Bernie Sanders!

As a passionate advocate for free markets, I was the enemy...

Bernie is pro-communist; millions were killed under communist regimes.

Voting for Bernie is the manifestation of a death wish.

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[24-Jan-20 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
Why he talks Like This


[24-Jan-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he;s a robot


[24-Jan-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also because he is poorly educated and believes communism and socialism are the exact same thing as do his viewers apparently


[24-Jan-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again to neo liberals everything short of pure green capitalism is communism


[24-Jan-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/479128-supreme-court-allows-lawsuit-against-flint-city-officials-to-advance

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Supreme Court allows lawsuit against Flint city officials to advance
The Supreme Court will allow a lawsuit to move forward against Flint, Mich., officials over their role in the city's public health crisis following its decision to switch water sources in 2014. The court said on Tuesda
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[24-Jan-20 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/health/transgender-puberty-blockers-suicide-study/index.html

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Puberty blockers can be 'life-saving' drugs for trans teens, study...
When transgender youths have access to a puberty blocker, their chances of suicide and mental health problems in the immediate term and down the road decline significantly, a new study finds.
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[24-Jan-20 06:32 PM] illumnious#7938
How you do MEMES????? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1220536711031078913?s=21

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[24-Jan-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://qz.com/1788662/ivanka-trump-car-rentals-push-davos-costs-past-4-million/

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The total does not include security costs, salaries, or the estimated $2.2 million necessary to fly Air Force One round-trip between the US and Zurich and the Marine One helicopter flight from Zurich to Davos.
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[24-Jan-20 08:10 PM] illumnious#7938
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[24-Jan-20 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for in his life?


[24-Jan-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least 20


[24-Jan-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
support trump by being auto subbed to our scam line!


[24-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, I should note, most of those wouldn't be his


[24-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
he'd make the woman pay for them.


[24-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those would be of buddies


[24-Jan-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
@Itsthinking 40 I guess


[24-Jan-20 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/24/21079919/facial-recognition-london-cctv-camera-deployment

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London police to deploy facial recognition cameras across the city
One nation under CCTV
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[24-Jan-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, truly


[24-Jan-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and this after boris johnson threatened bodily harm against the parliament before the elections if they didn't vote yes on brexit before the tory uprising


[24-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, on Utah


[24-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would be clearly against the ERA


[24-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Utah court is basically saying it's not the business of the court to decide whether something is discriminatory.


[24-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Utah never ratified the ERA


[24-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
FUKK UTAH


[24-Jan-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a5bf667a6b834737663682e3f027d56d

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California threatened with funds loss over abortion coverage
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration on Friday threatened California with a potential loss of federal health care funds over the state's requirement that insurance plans cover...
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[24-Jan-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d431a7f1626e321a9a1c027b4e291a82

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Pompeo heads to Ukraine next week as impeachment winds down
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will visit Ukraine next week, making his first trip to the country at the heart of President Donald Trump's impeachment. As Trump's Senate...


[24-Jan-20 08:44 PM] ononim#8141
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[24-Jan-20 09:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2020/01/24/tesla-stock-to-0/

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Tesla Stock To $0?
Trefis analysis shows Tesla’s stock could potentially drop to $0 from its current levels of over $500. We outline how Tesla could end up defaulting on its roughly $13 billion in debt, a meaningful portion of which matures over the next 4 years. What’s the trigger? We firs...
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[24-Jan-20 10:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/us/barbers-hill-isd-dreadlocks-deandre-arnold-trnd/index.html

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If this Texas student doesn't cut his dreadlocks, he won't get to ...
DeAndre Arnold has been growing his dreadlocks for years. But recently, he hasn't been in school. He might not attend his senior prom. And with graduation coming up, he might not even get to walk across the stage. All because of his hair.
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[24-Jan-20 10:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/34-injuries-iran-missile-strike/index.html

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34 US service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries  aft...
Thirty-four US service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries following the Iranian missile attack on US forces in Iraq earlier this month, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said Friday.
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[24-Jan-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
apparently people in that article think that because something follows the law, it de facto cannot be racist


[24-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/ancient-african-skeletons-hint-at-a-ghost-lineage-of-humans/

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Ancient African skeletons hint at a “ghost lineage” of humans
Our African roots have many branches and interactions.
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[24-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51197463

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People still want plastic bottles, says Coca-Cola
Drinks giant Coca-Cola says it will not ditch plastic outright but will try to recycle more.
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[24-Jan-20 10:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/business/boeing-737-max-production-halt/index.html

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Boeing has temporarily stopped making 737 Max airplanes
The Boeing 737 Max is now on hold.
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[24-Jan-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
"could" or "is expected to"? In 4 years we "could" have a nuclear war. That doesn't mean heck of a lot.


[24-Jan-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
clickbait galore.


[24-Jan-20 10:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-prefers-witnesses-blasts-sleazebag-nadler-after-impeachment-dustup

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Impeachment-weary Trump tees off on ‘sleazebags’ Nadler and Sc...
President Trump slammed the House impeachment managers prosecuting the case against him as “sleazebags” during an impromptu press conference at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland on Wednesday -- while saying he'd "love" to attend his ongoing Senate trial back...
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[24-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437

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'Take her out': Recording appears to capture Trump at private dinn...
President Donald Trump was apparently heard discussing firing Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch during a 2018 dinner,.
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[24-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
"take her out" doesn't sound like firing tbh


[24-Jan-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
he wants to be the dictator who kills his staff


[24-Jan-20 11:42 PM] illumnious#7938
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[24-Jan-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
well Stalin did it, and people still love him!


[24-Jan-20 11:47 PM] illumnious#7938
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After consultation with our Great Military Leaders, designers, and others, I am pleased to present the new logo for the United States Space Force, the Sixth Branch of our Magnificent Military!
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[24-Jan-20 11:48 PM] illumnious#7938
:faceclaw: https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1220802487063662597?s=21

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[24-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lame logo


[24-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like a GPS GUI


[24-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No wait


[24-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the spaceship from Asteroids.


[24-Jan-20 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if "Space Force" was born from Putin declaring the creation of that shit a way back.


[24-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Jan-20 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
what's the game?


[25-Jan-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Temtem


[25-Jan-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://sdlegislature.gov/Legislative_Session/Bills/Bill.aspx?File=1057HST.html&Session=2020&Version=House%20State%20Affairs&Bill=1057

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SDLRC  - 2020 House Bill 1057 - House State Affairs
prohibit certain acts against minors


[25-Jan-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Except as provided in § 26-10-38, a medical professional who engages in any of the following practices upon a minor under the age of sixteen, for the purpose of attempting to change or affirm the minor's perception of the minor's sex, if that perception is inconsistent with the minor's sex, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor:

(1) Performing the following surgeries: castration, vasectomy, hysterectomy, oophorectomy, metoidioplasty, orchiectomy, penectomy, phalloplasty, and vaginoplasty;
(2) Performing a mastectomy;
(3) Prescribing, dispensing, administering, or otherwise supplying the following medications:
(a) Puberty-blocking medication to stop normal puberty;
(b) Supraphysiologic doses of testosterone to females; or
(c) Supraphysiologic doses of estrogen to males; or
(4) Removing any otherwise healthy or nondiseased body part or tissue.


[25-Jan-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I would also like to note this section
(2) "Sex," the biological state of being female or male, based on sex organs, chromosomes, and endogenous hormone profiles.


[25-Jan-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
which is often, but not generally, possible to determine precisely


[25-Jan-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That logo is trying to mix classic chevrons, common in US military stuff, with the Starfleet logo


[25-Jan-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I wonder would the Temtem devs stick to it, or quickly walk back because right-wing whales


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, problem


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Starfleet logo has one REALLY GOOD thing about emblems/flags


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that this does not


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, their pointy triangle has DEPTH via differential shading


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's bad.


[25-Jan-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it looks stupid at a distance


[25-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Starfleet logo is always flat monocolor.


[25-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Combined with too many lines on the globe and really odd star placement, this would be ass to replicate on a moment's notice


[25-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's bad for flags and emblems


[25-Jan-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least they took the UFP color scheme


[25-Jan-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA's color scheme with the red is shite.


[25-Jan-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's probably purely coincidence but this news from tesla came after trump mentioned it at davos... Every name trump mentions is doomed to fail!


[25-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```this would be ass to replicate on a moment's notice```
true, military logos should be cheap and simple for practicality reasons, but I seriously doubt Space Force will be anything more than a building with a bunch of officers in DC.


[25-Jan-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
and when that changes, the logo is likely to change too


[25-Jan-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Everything about it right now is to make it look as flashy and air forcy as possible


[25-Jan-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
that's all it can do right now. There's no actual Space Force nor any drive to create one. But it looks and sounds cool.


[25-Jan-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just monocolor the chevron, spread the stars out, and simplify the lines on the globe.


[25-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can see it being good under a different administration, but right now trump just wants a military pony to parade around


[25-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has actually been created... this is a thing that literally exists now


[25-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
signed into existance!


[25-Jan-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
well that, sure.


[25-Jan-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm a little more surprised he didnt call it the trump force tbh


[25-Jan-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479847-graham-vows-for-biden-ukraine-probe-after-impeachment-trial

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Graham vows Biden, Ukraine probe after impeachment trial
Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Friday that "someone" should investigate the Bidens and Ukraine after the impeachment trial, and pledged he will if an outside counsel doesn't step forward.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/grahamlindsey_012420gn2_lead.jpg


[25-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/479849-dems-demand-plan-as-epa-hits-largest-backlog-of-toxic-waste

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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/479849-dems-demand-plan-as-epa-hits-largest-backlog-of-toxic-waste
Democrats demand plan as EPA hits largest backlog of toxic waste c...
Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee are asking the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to explain a drop in the number of hazardous waste sites that the agency cleaned up last year.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/gowanus_canal_pollution_superfund_-88158880_.jpg


[25-Jan-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/flipping-opinion-trump-xi-jinping-soros-socialism-davos-crowd-secret-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/flipping-opinion-trump-xi-jinping-soros-socialism-davos-crowd-secret-2020-1
Trump just exposed a dirty secret in Davos
The business executives at Davos seem to have embraced President Trump, and in doing so turned their backs on everything they purport to stand for.
https://i.insider.com/5e28b1e624306a50c551c263?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jan-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-marsha-blackburn-labeled-alexandar-vindman-unpatriotic-vindictive-twitter-trend-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-marsha-blackburn-labeled-alexandar-vindman-unpatriotic-vindictive-twitter-trend-2020-1
#marshablackburnistrash is trending on Twitter after Sen. Marsha B...
The drama began at President Trump's impeachment trial when Sen. Blackburn scorned Rep. Schiff for hailing Lt. Col. Vindman as an "American patriot."
https://i.insider.com/5e2b57fd24306a5d421dc00b?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/i/status/1220795381061210113

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[25-Jan-20 12:44 AM] Opponent#3498
let the Plague come and sweep all worries away.


[25-Jan-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can it hit davos first?


[25-Jan-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox/where-u-s-presidential-candidates-stand-on-breaking-up-big-tech-idUSKBN1ZN16C

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox/where-u-s-presidential-candidates-stand-on-breaking-up-big-tech-idUSKBN1ZN16C
Where U.S. presidential candidates stand on breaking up Big Tech
In the run-up to the U.S. 2020 presidential election, many Democratic White Hous...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200124&t=2&i=1480709242&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0N10I


[25-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Time for a new trust buster


[25-Jan-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/how-joe-biden-went-from-slumping-to-surging-in-democratic-presidential-race-in-iowa-idUSKBN1ZN15Q

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How Joe Biden went from slumping to surging in Democratic presiden...
Iowa resident Carolyn Miller had long harbored doubts about Joe Biden's can...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200124&t=2&i=1480905347&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG0N259


[25-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51235675

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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51235675
'Porn block' companies seek £3m in damages
Four companies are seeking a judicial review of the decision to scrap age verification plans.
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[25-Jan-20 01:30 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/trump-signs-bill-help-houses-worship-repel-attacks/

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/trump-signs-bill-help-houses-worship-repel-attacks/
Trump signs bill to help houses of worship repel attacks
President Trump signed a bill Friday that spends $375 million over five years to help houses of worship and other nonprofits secure themselves against terror attacks.
https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2020/01/24/Trump_42278.jpg-b94b5_c0-215-5139-3211_s1770x1032.jpg?356d7e5d00660131893951d57262774181e7f9ff


[25-Jan-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so how much of this is just christian churches with no aid towards mosques?


[25-Jan-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
85%+ I'd imagine.


[25-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump probably thinks mosques are banned


[25-Jan-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
you give him too much credit


[25-Jan-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
he probably doesn't even remember what a mosque is


[25-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
so... joe biden is surging in popularity because he occasionally sounds coherent? wtf?


[25-Jan-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/heres-why-trump-and-mcconnell-cant-hold-up-impeachment-witnesses-during-the-senate-trial-ex-special-counsel/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Here’s why Trump and McConnell can’t hold up impeachment witne...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has been threatening senators that if they voted for witnesses to appear and be questioned, then it would turn the impeachment into an overwhelmingly long and drawn-out process. It’s an argument that President Donald Trump’s l...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Donald-Trump-and-Mitch-McConnell.png


[25-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real reason Biden is surging is cause Republicans keep talking about him


[25-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it presents things as binary so people choose a side


[25-Jan-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's an attempt to ensure Biden is both slandered and is the clear winner of the primary.


[25-Jan-20 02:12 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie do you think they'll succeed?


[25-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd giv it a 50/50 at this point.


[25-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are louder than Clinton's supporters were


[25-Jan-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People loudly want Sanders


[25-Jan-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ted-cruz-ridiculed-for-claim-impeachment-is-not-about-ukraine-congrats-on-hitting-hannity-caller-bingo/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Ted Cruz ridiculed for claim impeachment is not about Ukraine: ‘...
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has been one of President Donald Trump’s staunchest defenders on Capitol Hill — despite all of the disparaging things Trump said about “Lyin’ Ted Cruz” during the 2016 GOP primary. On Friday, Texas Republican claimed that the impeachment trial w...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Ted-Cruz-and-Donald-Trump.jpg


[25-Jan-20 02:26 AM] illumnious#7938
*“Impeachment for the Democrats is a partisan political game they are playing. They are mad at the American people for electing President Trump and are trying to undo the election through their sham impeachment,” Cruz argued.*


[25-Jan-20 02:28 AM] jlun2#8758
I really hope the Republicans will get repercussions for their blind loyalty on Trump (although I highly doubt it)


[25-Jan-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans have been repeating this line since trump was elected


[25-Jan-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re so insecure about dear leader that any criticism towards him is seen as trying to undo an election


[25-Jan-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course their entire party is now built on a foundation of blackmail so blind loyalty is all they can do to prevent their ship from being blown out of the water by fellow republicans


[25-Jan-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're unwilling to give up evidence because if they do, chances are their names will come up in it and then they;re fucked to shit.


[25-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
A president that doesn't care, a voter block that doesn't care enables politicians to be corrupted because they have no standards to be held accountable to


[25-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve7ccl3YrHU

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Bernie Sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve7ccl3YrHU
Joe Rogan Says He's Voting for Bernie
“He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” 

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We're going to win this election and transform th...
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[25-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
> This is an endorsement that ACTUALLY matters, compared to the laughable NYT endorsement.


[25-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
didn't the new york times endorsement of biden boil down to "he'll bring back the old status quo"?


[25-Jan-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty much


[25-Jan-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Joe "Nothing Will Fundamentally Change" Biden


[25-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[25-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/npr-reporter-mary-louise-kelly-mike-pompeo-cursed-her-out-for-asking-about-ukraine.html

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Mike Pompeo cursed out NPR reporter for asking about removal of Uk...
"All Things Considered" co-host Mary Louise Kelly interviewed Secretary of State Pompeo amid Trump's impeachment trial in the Senate, which centers around the president's dealings with Ukraine.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106354755-1579905598248preview.jpg?v=1579905609


[25-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They endorsed Biden and Warren


[25-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
while saying Bernie was "divisive"


[25-Jan-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
dog whistle for "this guy will upset the status quo"


[25-Jan-20 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
> “He used the F word in that sentence, and many others. He asked if I could find Ukraine on a map. I said yes. He called out for his aides to bring him a map of the world with no writing, no countries marked,” Kelly said.
> 
> “I pointed to Ukraine,” she said. “He put the map away. He said, ‘People will hear about this,’ and then he turned and said he had things to do, and I thanked him again for his time and left.”


[25-Jan-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
christ almighty


[25-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically Pompeo is like AVERAGE PEOPLE DUMB NO CARE BOUT UKRAINE WHY BOTHER


[25-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how soft power dies in a fire.


[25-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh he probably got mad she pointed at Crimea too


[25-Jan-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://americanindependent.com/tennessee-governor-bill-lee-adoption-agencies-discrimination-lgbtq-religious-liberty-gop-republicans/

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Tennessee governor signs bill that would let adoption agencies dis...
The measure allows faith-based adoption agencies to discriminate against same-sex couples while still receiving taxpayer funding.
https://americanindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/same-sex-couple-gay-parents-child-AP_794209520882.jpg


[25-Jan-20 03:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I never understood people being Christian but also okaying homophobia


[25-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can explain it


[25-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm a little tired of explaining stuff like this, but I'll try


[25-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, to exist, you must grow.


[25-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like uh, in species


[25-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you graph number over time, it's NOT a rollercoaster with sudden extinction


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a long growth period followed by a long slide to extinction, usually


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
with very little deviation.


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This surprised scientists, but well, business forecasters were not surprised.


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses do the same thing.


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You either grow or die.


[25-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must run to stay in place.


[25-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is basically a mental weed that has to compete with others, using whatever means necessary.


[25-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soooo


[25-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to be turning people of other religions to yours, and turning all your babbies into people of your religion, for optimal growth, to survive.


[25-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to get more babbies, you need people to be pressured into all reproducing.


[25-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homosexuality being okay means not everyone reproduces


[25-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It hurts your growth.


[25-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I see. Thank you


[25-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, it conflicts will all the REPRODUCE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY IT IS YOUR PURPOSE stuff already built in


[25-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's a double whammy because it shakes people's beliefs while also eroding a strategic advantage.


[25-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same thing for abortion.


[25-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And contraceptives.


[25-Jan-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
Christians are a virility cult


[25-Jan-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
||Tbh just self clone||


[25-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, and all the sexism is for the same reason


[25-Jan-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
self cloning is less hot maybe, but proven to work in nature


[25-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need women at home subservient pumping out babies


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they become like, their own people, they may choose not to hav babies.


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you allow homosexuals to adopt children, then the children grow up realizing that it isnt horrifying like christians scream about it being, so they grow up accepting it and are less likely to be scared into having christian babies for the blood god


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, that too


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bigger thing is like, you can't hav homosexuality endorsed by role models for children.


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Whitley can't hav RD and AJ kiss in his comics.


[25-Jan-20 03:36 AM] jlun2#8758
I assume this type of thinking will never die?


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
A role model saying such and such is okay means children will then see it as okay and that threatens the religion


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christians don't want to stop gays from adopting because they hate gays per se


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because then those children will grow up thinking they too could be gay


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and won't shame others for being gay


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and worse


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] jlun2#8758
I never knew gay was a choice


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
other children raised by normal christian parents will look at those well-adjusted children raised by gays


[25-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and say that gays are alright by them.


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 it's not, at least internally


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not as fixed as we originally thought it was


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s more of a spectrum than a binary


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's also not something you can just choose, like, "oh I want to be gay today"


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem is, if a child turns out gay, religion would hav them hide it and reproduce anyways.


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
not how it works


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
bisexuality is the most common sexual orientation


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its not a choice its like saying I chose to like this over that when in reality we all like and hate different things.


[25-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they think being gay is fine, instead they will marry their own sex and be openly gay.


[25-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will still hav weebs if watching anime is illegal, but you won't hav many anime watch parties, pretty much.


[25-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity doesn't fear lusting after men, it fears acting on it.


[25-Jan-20 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for christians it;s better off in the closet where no one will see or accept it


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] jlun2#8758
I assume that is eternal; and will never change


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing is eternal.


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity is breaking.


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it may change for homosexuals but there will always be soemone looking to suppress soemthig for reasons


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In time, it may mend the breakage by accepting gays, and adapting.


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or it may just keep breaking.


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Atheists are the largest, most underrepresented minority in the US


[25-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, you grow, until you don't, and then you go extinct.


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity is on its way towards extinction.


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is unlikely anything can change that.


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  btw if you know of any more social experiments involving separating 2 groups into random A, B, and see if they go kill each other, pls tell me ty


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I believe the most recent pew poll is that 36% of Americans are now "Nones"


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Islam is still growing, but it will eventually reach a peak.


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
which is over 1/3


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I think curches should be more open to the lgbt community. That way many parents will have the tools they need to help comfort their children who are struggling to come out.


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
crazy high, and it keeps growing


[25-Jan-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I think churches should be abolished @Sally Moon


[25-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, it's highly controversial for schools to even say it's okay for two gay people to raise a child.


[25-Jan-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but then if chruches do that, thye lose the fear that keeps thme going


[25-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or even to say that a particular child HAS two dads etc.


[25-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Byte don't become what you dislike


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He may be right.


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a building for worship to take place may strongly incentivize shitty behavior.


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of what drives current churches is fear, paranoia, and hopelessness. at least on the hardcore end. it;s the only thing keeping the extreme christiann right going anymore


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] jlun2#8758
churches as in christian churches, or a catch all for all religious buildings?


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
For example, being tax exempt.


[25-Jan-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sally Moon how does that make me become what I dislike?


[25-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The community that a congregation provides is great and all, but I'm not sure a church is a good form for it...or even if it's really desirable.


[25-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This gets into really awkward territory to reason about what is good.


[25-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible that you could make churches "houses of reason" and just plain atheistic congregational buildings and it'd all work out


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
without introducing things like clergy abusing children etc.


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
churches have also evolved in recent decades into a more corrupt version of what they once were. it;s best seen with megachurches


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Sally Moon#4922
When one hates something and wants it abolished like a building it doesn't really make them better than the intolerant


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
False.


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Intolerance for intolerance has to be a thing.


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise it becomes impossible to make any value judgments.


[25-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
(paradoxes)


[25-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you tolerate fascism, for instance, then fascism just wins and kills people.


[25-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism btw LOVES churches.


[25-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They make a very convenient way to instigate mob behavior with some indirection.


[25-Jan-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
megachurches look like scifi villain lairs...


[25-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately you hav to be able to hate groups that do evil shit.


[25-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which definitely includes a looooot of modern Christianity.


[25-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Amish strongly promote child abuse.


[25-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
JHs sweep everything under the rug.


[25-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons treat gay people as pests.


[25-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protestants are more varied, but usually do much the same.


[25-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Catholics get incensed about abortion.


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
> The Amish strongly promote child abuse.
That really doesn't help with the incest hillibilly stereotype that plagues the farm industry, doesn't it


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very few American denominations are morally **acceptable** IMO.


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an Amish family


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the father and 3 brothers will basically take turns with the 3 daughters.


[25-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
To the point she'll hav a miscarriage during rape.

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[25-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worth a read etc. https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a30284631/amish-sexual-abuse-incest-me-too/

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[25-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Key point: when an Amish guy is ACCUSED of rape


[25-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the congregation come to his support


[25-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the victim.


[25-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you'll hav a trial where 45 Amish people say Joseph is the best guy ever


[25-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the victim describes how he raped her


[25-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
After said guy confessed to the congregation to absolve himself of sin.


[25-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity is **incredibly** prone to this behavior.


[25-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everywhere it goes, little girls get raped and told to shut up.


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it happens in every religion


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are obvious reasons why, partially pointed out by the article


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
1. Admitting impurity would diminish the authority of the leadership.


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
2. The victim is seen as impure from the rape, while the abuser is not.


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I believe that, but I don't know other religions, so can't really comment much on them sorry


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
christianity is of course not the only one, the koran is literally written by a supposed child rapist


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
God forgives so long as it wasn't gay.


[25-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the victim is physically changed, seen as "used chewing gum" etc.)


[25-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't put much stokk in the "Muhammad raped the girl" thing


[25-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav to be realistic about stuff, don't swing all the way into super rape territory.


[25-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Realistically, most *marriages* involve eventually both sides forming some level of respect and caring for the other party.


[25-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Holding someone in your virtual rape dungeon of a bedroom, while possible, is not *likely*.


[25-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Islam just like Christianity will definitely lead to a lot of bedrooms becoming virtual rape dungeons, especially in the first month or so of a marriage


[25-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but over the long-term, most interactions are not rapey in nature.


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stockholm Syndrome sets in and such.


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Lima Syndrome too)


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, that's kinda like saying to smell the roses in a field covered in horse shit, of course.


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
god forgives if you pay the church enough gold


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you've gotta recognize that most of the field is not horse shit.


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
wait, gold fell out of use as a currency centuries ago


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Be realistic, don't think everything's rape.


[25-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
I'm getting my time periods mixed up :(


[25-Jan-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
god forgives if you nail your complaints to the church door

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[25-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
god forgives if you eat the rich


[25-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, if you want to deal with the current child marriages in the world


[25-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
the way to do it is not to null all of them, even when said children hav grown up since


[25-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want to change the underlying factors that force people into them and prevent more from happening.


[25-Jan-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously


[25-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very non-obvious


[25-Jan-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
it seemed obvious to me


[25-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
most people hear "this Syrian guy must be a child rapist, he married her when she was 10" and they go "WELL THEN DESTROY THE MARRIAGE"


[25-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then two 16-year-olds commit suicide


[25-Jan-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie sounds about right sadly


[25-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you've just replaced a relationship that may hav been loving from the start or not, but ended up there, with DEATH


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
okay I am not most people


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Correct.


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the thing about saying most people


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] jlun2#8758
reminds me of social media mobs


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why I hav to be explicit with this.


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people unless you beat them over the head won't even realize you're talking *about* child marriages.


[25-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ethnocentrism is really common.


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone will go "wait that's a thing?"


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mobs are ridiculously easy to whip into a vigilante frenzy


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I am pretty sure most americans believe people in the middle east live in mud huts


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, it's unlikely Muhammad was raping his wife very often.


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely he did it at least a few times early on.


[25-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a bad idea to base things off of that likelihood.


[25-Jan-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that tends to happen when all images of the middle east broadcast to america are of the uninhabited deserts and warzones


[25-Jan-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I qualified my statement about "supposed", Nebbie, I don't know if he did it or not because there's not much evidence surrounding it and it could be Muhammad's erotic fanfiction for all I know


[25-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Islam tends to be shitty to women, but most of that does not come from the Koran directly.


[25-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Koran does not resemble erotic fanfiction.


[25-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of it was written later and it's basically a lot about how to deal with people trying to destroy your religion.


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, Sharia law is *not* in the Koran


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not often tv depicts the populated normal looking cities inn the middle east


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's based off of the Sunnah


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was written later, and was a lot of assumptions on what Muhammad would do in various situations.


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Koran does totally say to behead people if they try to destroy your religion


[25-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but most of the other stuff is from the Sunnah.


[25-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also a lot of the way Islam treats women is not directly from the Koran


[25-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's tradition employed in the region with Imams saying it's what god wants


[25-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a cultural response to the desert conditions with scarce resources.


[25-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
When a simple drought means everyone has to flee, selling your daughter to establish ties with another family so the two you together are more likely to survive is a very attractive proposition.


[25-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to fix that, burning the Koran won't do it.


[25-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to make it so people don't become refugees at the drop of a hat.


[25-Jan-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) hey, saw a similar thing but for NK  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvXOHjV4UM

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[25-Jan-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
mentions how most ppl think NK is completely backwards, while in reality they have houses and all


[25-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, if you want people to hav less kids, hav all those kids survive, not sell the female kids as wives while they're still kids, and value individual rights


[25-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to giv them food and shelter and medicine


[25-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then ON TOP OF THAT start modifying their culture


[25-Jan-20 04:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  that's annoyingly counterintuitive as hell


[25-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[25-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to humanity.


[25-Jan-20 04:09 AM] jlun2#8758
the rich ppl have no kids part


[25-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our default state is warring tribes that sell each other little girls to rape until they love each other to end the war.


[25-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is just a layer of varnish on top to protect that culture.


[25-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that the religion's core text is just erotic fanfiction is completely missing the problem.


[25-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it was, you're going at the wrong thing to change first.


[25-Jan-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it was a rhetorical point to say it could have been made up shit


[25-Jan-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
forgive me for not being clear about that


[25-Jan-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well obviously it's made up


[25-Jan-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a bunch of story and rhetoric.


[25-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to form a solid core for the culture to grip onto...less of a varnish, more of a skeleton.


[25-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This reminds me of that Siberian family of Old Believers


[25-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who had a copy of what they believed was a religious text, but was actually an old Soviet almanac


[25-Jan-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it also seems disingenuous to think my belief is that the religious text is the problem and not the culture or the environment


[25-Jan-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
books don't generally make people act funny, people make people act funny


[25-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure what your whole view on stuff is, then.


[25-Jan-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
once upon a time it was coherent


[25-Jan-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
at this point, it's just it's so hard to change anything because society changes so slowly


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the problems are in society, and society is nebulous and hard to pin down


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's also notorious for forcing people to act in particular ways


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
furthermore, it's hard to describe exact causes for particular social trends


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've just gotta focus on which pieces are making problems


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and talk about replacing them


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
so you can say "society is doing X because Y" but the problem isn't Y


[25-Jan-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
it's X


[25-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Middle East is a lot harder to deal with because the religion really is not the bulk of the problem.


[25-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho it's the uniting feature.


[25-Jan-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
you'll notice my user tag is


[25-Jan-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
"Society was a mistake"


[25-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over in the west, religion tends to be a problem because it's often vestigial


[25-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
trying to force in values we've otherwise long since abandoned due to better conditions


[25-Jan-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and I set the topic of this channel to "We live in a society" a month ago


[25-Jan-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I know it's a meme but really


[25-Jan-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
we do


[25-Jan-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
you having me read about Diogenes sort of flipped my worldview again


[25-Jan-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7e8a976b9835a39786304118b0336c37

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[25-Jan-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479878-schiff-sparks-blowback-with-head-on-a-pike-line

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Schiff sparks blowback with head on a 'pike' line
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) is sparking immediate, bipartisan backlash after he referenced a CBS News report saying Republican senator heads will be on a 'pike' if they break with Preside
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[25-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Republicans act like fukking scumbags, they treat it as the other side being bad for calling them the fukk out.


[25-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[25-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP will latch onto the pike thing and nothing else


[25-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's something they can easily distract with and pretend to be angry about


[25-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll condense his entire speech, and the entire day, to just that


[25-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course.


[25-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just make a big hubbub about SCHIFF ACCUSED TRUMP OF THING NOT TRUE


[25-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same shit as latching onto the Baron Trump thing


[25-Jan-20 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet the rump defense team is rewriting their defense to focus on that as we speak


[25-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If they did originate the statement, as ABC reported, that would be a real pro gamer move


[25-Jan-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering i only found 2 sources for that quote last night, i wouldnt be surprised if this was a trap set by some kind of republican


[25-Jan-20 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a single tweet talking about a "cbs report" and a russian news site


[25-Jan-20 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
said report was no where to be found on the cbs website


[25-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1220491412854185984

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[25-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
it says in that video that a confidant told CBS news the "heads on a pike" thing


[25-Jan-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the actual report finally showed up


[25-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
"Vote against the President and your head will be on a pike."


[25-Jan-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[25-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/01/white-house-head-on-a-pike

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[25-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
I found the tweet from this article


[25-Jan-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast this confirms that screenshot as real


[25-Jan-20 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing i had to go off last night was this tweet

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[25-Jan-20 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it took every news source 24 hours to cathc up


[25-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
you can search text from screencapped tweets to try and find them on google with quotation marks for exact text


[25-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
and then use site:twitter.com (or any site) to specify a site


[25-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
so like for that screencap, a google search would be `site:twitter.com "cbs news reports that gop senators have been warned by trump team"`


[25-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atwitter.com+"cbs+news+reports+that+gop+senators+have+been+warned+by+trump+team"


[25-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
yep, it's the first result


[25-Jan-20 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, though last night it was also the only actual source


[25-Jan-20 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1220857880636727297?s=20

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[25-Jan-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol replies saying this means nothing


[25-Jan-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives really don't get it, do they, on the whole "intent matters" thing.


[25-Jan-20 06:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they're too busy being addicted to their phones and playing with fidget spinners


[25-Jan-20 06:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had a connversation like this with my hvac teacher last semester, his arguement was that every president commits crimes so none of thme should be held to it


[25-Jan-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
to be fair, it's a boring as shit trial because they refused to invite any spicy witnesses


[25-Jan-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
they did it to themselves


[25-Jan-20 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is thye keep whining about it and yet they were the ones who made these choices in the first place


[25-Jan-20 06:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you fucks could have at least made it entertaining for yourselves by letting dems invite witnesses, it;s not liek you were going to convict to begin with


[25-Jan-20 06:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dems are only going in circles because they only have the same evidence they basically did during the impeachment hearings


[25-Jan-20 06:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant wait for the republican defense of "they have no evidence and we dont either but we;re still going to preach at you about them not having any evidence despite them presenting a fully fleshed out time line of events with tons of evidence to back it up"


[25-Jan-20 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Something about dems trying to invalidate 2016"


[25-Jan-20 06:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*deflections about biden corruption despite that not being the point of the trial*


[25-Jan-20 06:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*age of consent laws argument here despite there being no relevance*


[25-Jan-20 07:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just really want trump to make that surprise showing against all wishes of his lawyers, to testify under oath out of sheer hubris


[25-Jan-20 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or even just to show up and sit in with that ~~golden~~ blue ticket


[25-Jan-20 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would make for an entertaining shit show


[25-Jan-20 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially since he probably wouldnt be able to stop himself from yelling responses to the testimony being given


[25-Jan-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/trump-iran.html

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President Trump cited Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani’s “horrible past” as possibly reason enough for the drone strike that killed him.
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[25-Jan-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that trump's defense ultimately boils down to "it doesn't really matter"


[25-Jan-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-told-giuliani-associates-get-rid-of-yovanovitch-in-recording-2020-1

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'Take her out': New recording appears to feature an angry Trump te...
"Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow," Trump said of Marie Yovanovitch, according to the recording published by ABC News.
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[25-Jan-20 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Jan-20 12:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-seeking-carve-out-sunni-state-its-influence-iraq-wanes

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US seeking to carve out Sunni state as its influence in Iraq wanes
With Shia parties pressuring American troops to leave, Washington wants to create an autonomous region around Anbar to maintain its presence
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[25-Jan-20 12:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking christ


[25-Jan-20 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it just never fucking ends... :hopeless:


[25-Jan-20 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Nebbie, about christianity being a growth 'weed' designed to hate gays. By this logic, every religion ever (I don't think anything truly new has appeared in the last, oh, 200 years) would serve the same purpose (facilitating growth and sustainability of it's people), and so would hate gay, women rights, individual rights and so on.


[25-Jan-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that depends on the religions goal in the first place


[25-Jan-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buddhism doesnt prey on fear and paranoia to survive


[25-Jan-20 01:07 PM] Opponent#3498
societal framework. That's it's universal role.


[25-Jan-20 01:08 PM] Opponent#3498
the goals are the same. Stands to reason that the natural (and removing growth inhibitions does seem natural) methods would also be shared.


[25-Jan-20 01:09 PM] Opponent#3498
'ye shall not kill, ye shall not steal' etc is pretty universal cause that serves to curb most common conflict points.


[25-Jan-20 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially yes, it;s a societal framework designed to make sure old long  outdated standards remain alive


[25-Jan-20 01:09 PM] Opponent#3498
no, you misunderstand.


[25-Jan-20 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont need religion to tell us not to kill and steal. the ones who do would happily kill and steal to begin with


[25-Jan-20 01:10 PM] Opponent#3498
they would kill and steal from _others_, not from the group. That's still the same.


[25-Jan-20 01:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it's cooperation coined into natural 'law' in a sense.


[25-Jan-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, religion is a tribe mentality, especially the monotheist religions


[25-Jan-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
religion by design is to keep the old tribal village system alive


[25-Jan-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually through a major us vs. them rhetoric with a narrative of the outsiders coming to corrupt your children, so you should breed liek rabbits to make sure our tribe survives


[25-Jan-20 01:13 PM] Opponent#3498
still, though. Outside of hunters vs farmers, generally the conditions of people were pretty similar. Scetchy food situation, high child mortality and mortality in general, primarily to disease or infection, etc. Hating gays for Christianity, according to Nebbie, is a response to this. But why isn't it so for others?


[25-Jan-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hating gays ensures the followers are pressured into giving their blood god more babies to raise into followers


[25-Jan-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s not much more too it, acceptance of gays means less babies


[25-Jan-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, but any society up until very recently would probably have a need for something like this. Not every religion promotes this idea(s).


[25-Jan-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s mostly christians and similar religions doing this


[25-Jan-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. I'm wondering why is it so.


[25-Jan-20 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well religions like buddhism are more a self introspective meditation type religion, they arent trying to breed and expand, they're trying to just get through life


[25-Jan-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile christianity was founded on maintaining the farmers civilization mdel


[25-Jan-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s entirely about survival


[25-Jan-20 01:17 PM] Opponent#3498
yyeah but, again, according to what Nebbie said, that's supposed to be a road to stagnation and death.


[25-Jan-20 01:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and clearly it wasn't that simple.


[25-Jan-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thing is, with outdated mdoels that never update, it mutated


[25-Jan-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
followers dont know why these rules were set in place so thye jsut blindly follow it to the letter


[25-Jan-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile churches keep this going by putting blinders on their attendees so thye never move past th eimplanted fears


[25-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I didn't mean christianity was the road to ruin. It's the others that don't force growth as an imperative that would be.


[25-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
and that doesn't seem to be a thing.


[25-Jan-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it could be a thing but there;s less focus on those that dont because they tend to keep to themselves


[25-Jan-20 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like you wont see a temple based religionn set up in the mountains come down to tell you why you;re a god hating heathen who needs to repent


[25-Jan-20 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
it being designed to expand and conquer or not doesn't mean too much here. I was thinking about managing an established society and it's progress.


[25-Jan-20 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well again the temple based mountaineers would build their own little society and keep to themselves inthe mountain


[25-Jan-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be entirely localized


[25-Jan-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
so nobody would ever know of them. That doesn't mean they wouldn't hate gays or women rights.


[25-Jan-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
and if they wouldn't, it begs the question why.


[25-Jan-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prettymuch, thye would have no reasonn to because thye arent trying to recruit people out of fear


[25-Jan-20 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fear of gays is about breeding liek rabbits


[25-Jan-20 01:24 PM] Opponent#3498
but that's not what it's about though, is it. It's about sustaining the numbers. The growth halts, you die out.


[25-Jan-20 01:24 PM] Opponent#3498
so there would absolutely be an incentive to do it. Especially in a closed-off society with an already limited 'breeding stock'.


[25-Jan-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also depends on the end goal of said religion, mountain based seclusionary religions tend to be less about survival and more about meditation and finding  peace. it;s not about maintaining things, it;s about making the msot of the time thye have left


[25-Jan-20 01:27 PM] Opponent#3498
if they're about meditation and the most time they have left, it's not a religion of a civilisation (society is, perhaps, not entirely correct term to use).


[25-Jan-20 01:27 PM] Opponent#3498
without the growth imperative life does seem happier, as our neolib present constantly reminds us, but that's beside the point.


[25-Jan-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile religions of civilization have been warped overtime because they need to keep surviving, recruiting, and pointing at those other guys and going "We need you to fear them so we can curvive and you can amke us more followers with your cattle womb"


[25-Jan-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while a small minority of people in power profit off the top of it and break every value the peasants are meant to follow


[25-Jan-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the reason half the rules in the bible exist is hygiene and poverty


[25-Jan-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was written in a time where poverty was the norm and medical practices werent advanced enough yet


[25-Jan-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pork is forbidden  because pork back then could literally kill you


[25-Jan-20 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we arent even sure the original bible had anything about gay people in it, that could have been an addition by king james


[25-Jan-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
religious books are made of fuckery at this point with outdated rules based now on fear to keep propogating the herd


[25-Jan-20 01:33 PM] Opponent#3498
if pork could kill you they wouldn't breed it. The pig doesn't produce anything but it's flesh, and doesn't do anything but eat, it's not a cow/bull. That still wasn't my point, but I have to go now, so w/e


[25-Jan-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, pork could be eaten back then but pork is also one of those meats you have to prepare thoroughly or you end up dying to some awful disease


[25-Jan-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
overcooking pork can actually make you sick as well


[25-Jan-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where those sicknesses are a mild inconvenience to us today, back then they could be fatal


[25-Jan-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so for religious groups, it was better to just avoid that shit entirely


[25-Jan-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem with pork wasn't just that undercooking it could lead to illness, but that keeping them properly required a lot of water (and mud) or they'd get sick


[25-Jan-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They were basically very wasteful animals to raise in desert areas


[25-Jan-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479882-trump-says-his-advice-to-impeachment-defense-team-is-just-be-honest

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Trump says his advice to impeachment defense team is 'just be honest'
President Trump on Friday said he would advise his defense team in the Senate impeachment trial to "just be honest" ahead of their first day of arguments.
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[25-Jan-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479775-trump-team-to-present-case-for-two-hours-on-saturday

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Trump team to present case for about two hours on Saturday
President Trump's defense team plans to present arguments for about two hours on Saturday, an official familiar with the strategy confirmed to The Hill.
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[25-Jan-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump did nothing illegal, Schiff is a meanie, Biden is worth investigating, NO CRIMES, no evidence or witnesses show any wrongdoing, the whistleblower lied, KAG2020"


[25-Jan-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Saved you two hours


[25-Jan-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's pretty much what i expect


[25-Jan-20 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479709-teachers-union-sues-devos-over-repeal-of-for-profit-regulations

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American Federation of Teachers sues DeVos over repeal of for-prof...
The American Federation of Teachers (AFT) filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the Education Department and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos for her repeal of Obama-era regulations covering for-profit colleges and universities.
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[25-Jan-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479640-devos-compares-abortion-debate-to-ending-slavery-freedom-is-not-about

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DeVos compares pro-choice to being pro-slavery
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos compared the debate over abortion rights to ending slavery in America while speaking at an event for Colorado Christian University in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, according to
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[25-Jan-20 02:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Democrats label Trump a 'dictator' in closing arguments for his removal https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-s-senate-impeachment-trial-what-happened-day-four-n1122471

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Trump's Senate impeachment trial: What happened on Day Four
During their third day of arguments, Democrats warned that Trump is a "dictator" who has demonstrated he is a danger to the nation.
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[25-Jan-20 03:11 PM] jlun2#8758
> followers dont know why these rules were set in place so thye jsut blindly follow it to the letter 
hey that's me in school and coding lol


[25-Jan-20 03:15 PM] jlun2#8758
I can see people doing that in the far future to appeal to the AI "gods"; blindly following an outdated tech manual thinking it was some religious book.


[25-Jan-20 03:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty sure there're've already been cargo cults that revered random objects and symbols from flotsam that washes ashore


[25-Jan-20 03:20 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Jan-20 03:24 PM] ononim#8141
>YT restricted it


[25-Jan-20 03:27 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Jan-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/479762-senators-ask-fda-chief-to-crack-down-on-non-dairy-milks-cheeses

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Senators ask FDA to crack down on non-dairy milks, cheeses
A bipartisan group of senators is calling on the Food and Drug Association (FDA) to end the labeling of plant-based products as milk, cheese or yogurt.
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[25-Jan-20 04:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cursed books


[25-Jan-20 04:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Jan-20 04:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1220760231061413890

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Abortion is health care.
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[25-Jan-20 04:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
check the comments


[25-Jan-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it raving anti abortionists?


[25-Jan-20 04:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[25-Jan-20 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, the "burglary is illegal too" arguement


[25-Jan-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think someone compared abortion to the holocaust going by a reply to a removed tweet


[25-Jan-20 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives don't understand harm reduction


[25-Jan-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone posted this

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[25-Jan-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
You don't need guns to live...


[25-Jan-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Congrats, distinction denier


[25-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
That is to say, guns are not an important component of any mandatory social function, and are not required for survival


[25-Jan-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
You can't say the same thing about housing or food or healthcare or telecommunications


[25-Jan-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
... Would you rather your uterus get scraped by a coat hanger in a back alley abortion, or in a medically-authorized care provider?


[25-Jan-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Harm reduction


[25-Jan-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
she likely won't ever have that issue xD


[25-Jan-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
see their arguement is that since burglary still happens we should just let abortion be a crime and let thme harm themselves with the coathnger


[25-Jan-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
#coathangerisaright


[25-Jan-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not even kidding that was an arguement brought up in the thread


[25-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/geneellrud/status/1220763103648010240

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@Alex4Rep @BernieSanders Let's legalize burglary. It's going to happen anyway. Might as well make it safe.
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[25-Jan-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
It turns out that burglary can be harm-reduced too, they are purely distinction deniers


[25-Jan-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
If lethal weapons are not employed you have automatically made the situation dramatically safer


[25-Jan-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
well the criminal will always be armed. And is likely to take drastic measures if detected.


[25-Jan-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
so, while true, the reduction is quite one-sided.


[25-Jan-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not even remotely close to true, but it wasn't the point anyway


[25-Jan-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Burglars in the UK for example don't really carry lethal arms


[25-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
knives are quite lethal, or so I hear. Firearms, probably not.


[25-Jan-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
And when they do, it's knives


[25-Jan-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll take getting stabbed to getting shot


[25-Jan-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but knives can be disarmed much easier, and a stab wound can be treated much better than a bullet wound


[25-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd take a fighting chance over 'oh god I'll just lie here and pretend not to notice'.


[25-Jan-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
The point is about harm reduction. If you disagree that firearms are significantly more harmful than knives, you might want to get your brain examined.


[25-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well, like I said, harm reduction, sure. A bit too one-sided though.


[25-Jan-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
No, it's not one sided


[25-Jan-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
If burglars don't think they're going to get shot at, they won't bring a gun


[25-Jan-20 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
aight I am with fellow slav on this one I think


[25-Jan-20 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
If a bulgar think they might be shot they might not go to that house


[25-Jan-20 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
If a black family has a gun a klansmen is less eager to terrorize them


[25-Jan-20 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
sure, US court may plant balck person defending themself as agressor


[25-Jan-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You wouldnt euthanize your mother, right?" so is that an arguement for euthanizing your mother to save a baby if it;s a life threatening pregnancy?


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am confused at this argument


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
but I feel for most white supermacist it is not worth risking thier own life to stroke another news article


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
so are they. @Pineapple


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
also


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
>fetus


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
this doesn't make sense, context or not.


[25-Jan-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
>same as a living person


[25-Jan-20 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
People seem to think that either most abortions are late term or like


[25-Jan-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most abortions are really really early term


[25-Jan-20 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
a bunch of cell that resemble at mutated fish AT MOST has same capacity as one month old Bobby


[25-Jan-20 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
but ofcourse a lot of them areChristians i.e. essentialists


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
and think that things posses "soul" since conception


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
if so, they ought to learn that not every conception results in preganacy


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk tbh


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
I think that's a bad vid


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or, well. I don't know if that's even an accurate summary of Olly's underlying argument


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
I don't care that retarded christans think


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
an actual living human=/= a fetus


[25-Jan-20 05:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well I think he's mostly arguing against Ben Shapiro


[25-Jan-20 05:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
So he rules out some of the other routes to it to accept Shapiro's basis before taking it on by its own logic or something


[25-Jan-20 05:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
You could argue Featus=Living human/not living human all day until the cows come home with a religious pro-lifer and make not progress. So I believe that's why he wants to avoid that subject and take it from a different angle.


[25-Jan-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly i;d just present thme with the direct ultimatum


[25-Jan-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
life saving abortion, your wife? or the zygote?


[25-Jan-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course then they;d get angry and avoid the question entirely


[25-Jan-20 05:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I wonder what they think of eggs that have been fertilized by bad cells from their own body. They have hearts, brains,bones, eyes and teeth too but resemble nothing like a human and has 0 chance of survival. should those be carried to term too? I don't think anyone would want someone to push out a jagged ball of flesh and bone though such a sensitive area.


[25-Jan-20 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim "if a Bulgar"


[25-Jan-20 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Accidental Slav solidarity


[25-Jan-20 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
Bulgarians can have a little armed robbery, as a treat :reppy:


[25-Jan-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479904-pompeo-lashes-out-accuses-npr-reporter-of-lying-after-clash

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Pompeo lashes out at 'shameful' NPR reporter
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo lashed out at an NPR reporter on Saturday and accused her of lying to him after reports emerged of
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[25-Jan-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479856-trump-democrats-risk-unintended-consequences-with-impeachment-arguments

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Trump, Democrats risk unintended consequences with impeachment arg...
Both the White House defense team and Democrats seeking President Trump’s removal have advanced arguments at the impeachment trial that risk undercutting their own interests.
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[25-Jan-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/21791704b5434669225117a0638b7a1a repeat argument ad nausium until blue in face

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Trump lawyers argue Democrats just want to overturn election
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's lawyers plunged into their impeachment trial defense Saturday by accusing Democrats of striving to overturn the 2016 election, arguing that...
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[25-Jan-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/844b66ce83b5c332d52f093f15c11d3a

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Jeff Sessions stresses Trump loyalty in Alabama Senate race
VESTAVIA HILLS, Ala. (AP) — Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, giving a recent campaign speech to a suburban Republican club, recalled his 2016 decision to endorse then-presidential candidate...
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[25-Jan-20 07:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeff Sessions needs some therapy sessions


[25-Jan-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/1220823578825887745

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Ahem. We are expecting some royalties from this... https://t.co/msYcJMlqjh
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[25-Jan-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/670658462690312212
Bernie's fairly pro-gun for a democrat tho


[25-Jan-20 08:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
G O V E R N M E N T    S U P P L I E D    A R M S


[25-Jan-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
so he's basicly perfect in every way. Nice :glowing_eyes:


[25-Jan-20 08:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you take that Karl Marx quote to the Communist League to its dialectical limit


[25-Jan-20 08:04 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Jan-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-democratic-nomination-delegate-selection-process-works-2020-1

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Here's how Democrats will elect their presidential nominee over th...
The Democratic nominee will be officially selected at the DNC in July, but we'll probably know who wins the nomination much earlier than that
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[25-Jan-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden will probably win the nomination


[25-Jan-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
And then we in all likelihood really will have 4 more years

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[25-Jan-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-opening-arguments-impeachment-trial-schedule-live-updates-2020-1

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Day 1 of the Trump defense team's opening arguments in his impeach...
Trump's lawyers made more than a dozen false or misleading claims, said he did nothing wrong, and promoted conspiracy theories started by Russia.
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[25-Jan-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people are also saying 3 more years as they believe trump to be the anti christ based on an actual bible passage:

*3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4  He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.[2]*


[25-Jan-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so according to them, shit really fuckin hits the fan in his 8th year as president


[25-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds more like Kanye than Trump


[25-Jan-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a surprise upset, kanye manages to win the 2020 election despite having never actually put in a bid


[25-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Write-ins are still a thing, right?


[25-Jan-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure if it depends on the state or not but yes


[25-Jan-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, 4chan is going to get kanye elected


[25-Jan-20 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kanye / Baphomet 2020


[25-Jan-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
Trump 2020 is inevitable


[25-Jan-20 08:42 PM] illumnious#7938
So this is where Trump got his shitty information from https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/25/impeachment-fumble-gops-collins-murkowski-shame-adam-schiff-citing-fake-head-pike-threat/

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GOP's Collins, Murkowski Shame Schiff over Fake 'Head on a Pike' T...
GOP senators rallied after Adam Schiff claimed that senators were warned, "Vote against the president and your head will be on a pike."
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[25-Jan-20 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some people have speculated that the source is the Trump legal team, like Collins. This sounded completely bogus to me, and here's why.


[25-Jan-20 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For one thing, it'd be a felony. Most likely jury intimidation, though I gotta give props to the guy who thought it might constitute physically threatening senators for being completely unable to understand what a metaphor is. I think there's a much more plausible explanation. It was more likely just a reference to the reality that some senators' seats are at stake in 2020 and will hinge on the vote in the trial. IMO that's super tame, and it could've been any rando on Twitter saying that. For that matter, Democrats have made a point of this as well.


[25-Jan-20 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So what happens now? Well, I think it depends. Sen. Collins appears to have jumped to the conclusion that the quote allegedly came from the Trump administration, and she and a lot of Republican senators are claiming they've seen no warning of the sort. If she's right, then the Democrats got baited hard. If she isn't, then Republicans are making a mountain out of a molehill. Either way, I expect the defense to capitalize on it.


[25-Jan-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my theory is that it wasnt said to republicans but leaked to the news by an anonymous source as a trap for the democratic prosecutors


[25-Jan-20 08:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I put stock in that theory as well, the question is, who


[25-Jan-20 08:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Russians? Someone actually on Trump's defense? The hacker known as 4chan?


[25-Jan-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it was an actual quote i would have expected much faster news coverage, but for a single day all there was was a single tweet and a report form the daily kos alluding to a single cbs report that only aired on tv until the next day


[25-Jan-20 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it only began spreading liek wild fire once the democrats fell into the trap


[25-Jan-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, tbh, it was a minor (exclusive) detail shoved into the middle of a report that was largely unrelated


[25-Jan-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
here it is


[25-Jan-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1220491412854185984

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In opening statements, House managers examined the debunked conspiracy theories invoked by Pres. Trump. 

A @POTUS confidant tells CBS News that GOP senators were warned: “vote against the president & your head will be on a pike.”

Here's @nancycordes https://t.co/LV1Y...
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[25-Jan-20 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I hadn't realized, actually, that CBS did in fact cite a "POTUS confidant"


[25-Jan-20 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so that means the source either is in Trump's circle or was lying to pretend they were


[25-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's likely the message reached someone sane before going forward to every senator


[25-Jan-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whoever it was, it was likely not someone important or it was a buried detail, as I distinctly remember the murmur that passed through the senate when Schiff brought up the quote. According to the Hill, several Republican senators reacted as though it was the first time they'd ever heard it


[25-Jan-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And whether that was a genuine reaction of surprise or an outburst of denial awaits to be seen


[25-Jan-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's fuckery afoot in the senate trial


[25-Jan-20 09:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
btw, one of the takeaways I had from the defense's presentation today was the argument they made that Schiff overlooked comments Trump has made the whole time he's been in office about Ukranian corruption and, allegedly, the balance of burden, in an attempt to discredit the argument that there was no reason given for holding the aid. And, I must admit, if you weren't aware of the facts, it'd be a pretty convincing argument


[25-Jan-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the thing *they* didn't bring up was that the situation in Ukraine changed during Trump's administration, and that the qualifications of fighting corruption were found to have been met for appropriating the aid before Congress even voted on that. Or, indeed, that everyone he cited testimony on also testified that when they asked what the reason was for the hold, none was given, and that no one in any department remembered meetings discussing what to do with the aid other than unanimously calling for it to be released - with the exception of the OMB


[25-Jan-20 09:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Another minor omission on the defense's part was any mention of Giuliani or the Bidens whatsoever. Like, they didn't bring up Rudy once


[25-Jan-20 09:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So, taken together, my conclusion is that Trump is the only one who really thinks Ukraine hasn't changed since 2016, and he still to this day believes that Crowdstrike theory is true


[25-Jan-20 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, Putin says Russia didn't meddle, and Trump can't see any reason for Putin to lie about that


[25-Jan-20 09:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
while simultaneously believing that when Zelensky overhauled the government, he removed many officials who were doing the right thing - because he also believes that Shokin got a "do not prosecute" list from Yovanovitch and that the Burisma case was moving forward


[25-Jan-20 09:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a story which reached his ears from Shokin either via Giuliani or John Solomon


[25-Jan-20 09:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry, that's Lutsenko who allegedly received the do-not-prosecute list


[25-Jan-20 09:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a claim which she has refuted under oath


[25-Jan-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
dangerous and short-sighted https://www.npr.org/2020/01/22/798126153/exclusive-seattle-area-voters-to-vote-by-smartphone-in-1st-for-u-s-elections

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Exclusive: Seattle-Area Voters To Vote By Smartphone In 1st For U....
King County, Wash., plans to allow all eligible voters to vote using their smartphones in a February election. It's the largest endeavor so far as online voting slowly expands across the U.S.
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[25-Jan-20 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
/camera pans to a a chinese office room with 300 phones loading up the voting app


[25-Jan-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow, they really want this election hacked


[25-Jan-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/479929-trump-defense-team-signals-focus-on-schiff

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Trump defense team signals focus on Schiff
At several points during their opening argument, President Donald Trump’s defense team trained their fire on Rep.
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[25-Jan-20 11:21 PM] jlun2#8758
> Buell, the University of South Carolina computer science specialist, admits that mobile voting probably will continue to expand this decade. That is due in part, he says, to a miscalculation by advocates and the public about how insecure the Internet and mobile phones are.
> 
> "Until we have a total collapse of some election, I think this sort of thing is going to continue," Buell said. "People want to believe that they can do everything on their phones."
GOP forever I guess


[25-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Look at what I found on the bus trip while I passed by Los Angeles City Hall


[25-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Ltmajordude#9623

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[25-Jan-20 11:26 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Hmm, not good quality, hold up


[25-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Ltmajordude#9623

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[25-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Ah, that didn't work sorry


[25-Jan-20 11:27 PM] jlun2#8758
what are they marching about? that abortion thing? or affordable housing?


[25-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
One of the signs say No War on Iraq


[25-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Another one had Donald's face on it


[25-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Wait


[25-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Fuck I'm an idiot


[25-Jan-20 11:28 PM] jlun2#8758
oh. that was unexpected. thought they'd be marching about that somewhere else


[25-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
It says Iran


[25-Jan-20 11:28 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Sorry


[25-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Found this when I was googling this up


[25-Jan-20 11:30 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
https://facebook.com/events/s/la-global-day-of-protest-no-wa/1110153639318399/?ti=cl

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Causes event in Los Angeles, CA by Answer Los Angeles and 2 others on Saturday, January 25 2020 with 855 people interested and 306 people going.
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[25-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
First Missouri Dem Primary poll is in


[25-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden 39, Bloomberg 14, Warren 9, Sanders 7


[25-Jan-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
>Bloomberg


[25-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, Missouri


[25-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to be as in the middle on being shitty as possible.


[25-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Jan-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
15 percent undecided @Nebbie


[25-Jan-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden 39, Bloomberg 14, Warren 9, Klobuchar 8, Sanders 7, Buttigieg 6, Yang 2, Steyer 1


[25-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get it.


[25-Jan-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just the ad buy?


[25-Jan-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[26-Jan-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/479917-moveon-calls-on-sanders-to-renounce-joe-rogan-endorsement

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MoveOn calls on Sanders to renounce Joe Rogan endorsement
Progressive group MoveOn called on Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-sanders_012220getty.jpg


[26-Jan-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Heaven help us if we ever let people change


[26-Jan-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sounds like move on can't *move on*


[26-Jan-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_rimshot_

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[26-Jan-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/479928-trump-administration-sues-california-over-private-prison-ban

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California faces federal lawsuit over its private prison ban
The U.S.
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[26-Jan-20 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
>federal lawsuit


[26-Jan-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The U.S. Attorney General’s office filed a lawsuit against the state of California for banning private prisons, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.

The lawsuit argues that though California can choose not to contract private prisons in the state, they cannot stop the federal government from operating private prisons. 

“California, of course, is free to decide that it will no longer use private detention facilities for its state prisoners and detainees,” the lawsuit reportedly said. “But it cannot dictate that choice for the federal government, especially in a manner that discriminates against the federal government and those with whom it contracts.”

The bill in question, Assembly Bill 32, took effect Jan. 1 and prohibits new private detention contracts in California, changes to current contracts and plans to phase out existing facilities entirely by 2028.


[26-Jan-20 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
>over private prison **ban**


[26-Jan-20 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
only in america lmao


[26-Jan-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bill Barr's gotta suck a dick a day, and Trumps' got a line of senators in waiting


[26-Jan-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[26-Jan-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So that's how Ukraine raised to the top of Trump's agenda...


[26-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
_obviously_


[26-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
when I heard about oil company, that's what I thought of first.


[26-Jan-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
they want what we have, and have a leverage to get that without bombing us into oblivion like usual


[26-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
not gonna lie, it's intensely satisfying to see your worldview validated in this direct of a way.


[26-Jan-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
literally the only thing the US ever cares about is killing brown people for oil


[26-Jan-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the good ol' UST


[26-Jan-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
united states of terror


[26-Jan-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
United States of Oil


[26-Jan-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we fuel the terror with oil


[26-Jan-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/25/politics/steve-mnuchin-louise-linton-greta-thunberg/index.html

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Louise Linton sides with Greta Thunberg after husband Steve Mnuchi...
Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin's wife Louise Linton on Saturday showed support for climate activist Greta Thunberg, days after her husband took a jab at the teenager.
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[26-Jan-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
p.sure they have her absolute shit for days over that


[26-Jan-20 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
It's hard to get progressives to support anything because they attack and purity test each other relentlessly in a way that conservatives never do


[26-Jan-20 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
No trump voters gives a shit that he probably raped a 14 year old at an epstein party


[26-Jan-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
But people got really, pointlessly upset about clinton having bad opsec


[26-Jan-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Apparently that's worse than child rape, to certain kinds of progressives


[26-Jan-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Three-year-old-shot-by-Midland-Police-during-search-according-to-father-567233571.html

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FIRST ON CBS7: Three-year-old shot by Midland Police during search...
Midland Police shot a teenager and a three-year-old during a house search last night, according to the children's father.
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[26-Jan-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've actually kinda got it flipped around


[26-Jan-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives purity-test each other hard and fast at a basic level


[26-Jan-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Progressives however are very tolerant, and allow things to just fester for ages, never actually putting their foot down until doing so will create a schism.


[26-Jan-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are also very to-the-point, which means they will band together on one issue at a time and do what they want with it.


[26-Jan-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
LIberals tend to be very scatter-brained, jumping from one thing to another, and so even very small disagreements can boil over to many different areas and create a wide divide rapidly.


[26-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, conservatives reflect what's seen in more stable marriages, blowing up immediately when shit's not okay, so that it can be resolved, instead of just sweeping things under the rug until everything's on fire.


[26-Jan-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The *manner* in which you deal with disagreement is far more important than what you disagree on or what your disagreements are.


[26-Jan-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
No, they don't purity test each other, they don't care as long as they support some common issue and will use that commonality to beat progressives over the head


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
E.g. Christian groups look the other way at 4chan posters' support for traps when they unite on a common issue like opposition to gay marriage


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you gloss over the ways conservatives purity test


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not the same way liberals do it.


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The primary method is using intimidation and appeal to authority


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they find an authority within the group and castigate anyone who doesn't fall into line


[26-Jan-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Liberals will go through someone's twitter history and say "oh my god he used the n word 10 years ago he's a racist"


[26-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a different method.


[26-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals essentially don't respect an authority


[26-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a result they go on personal mini-crusades in small groups


[26-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are much, much more organized about things, going off a central authority usually.


[26-Jan-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't buy that

Who is the central authority that makes for ridiculous alliances between more fringe conservative groups? Am I hallucinating, did none of those ever happen? Or is there something I'm missing


[26-Jan-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally a group will figure out a leader for conservatives.


[26-Jan-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Who is the leader that unites a bunch of christian authoritarians and internet libertarians in opposition of "fag marriage"


[26-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Christians, it's often their church leaders


[26-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
internet libertarians meanwhile will use parasocial relationships to establish authority


[26-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Sargon


[26-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is about "X person said this, so I must do this"


[26-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They alter their beliefs to fit who the authorities are at the moment.


[26-Jan-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will of course when possible unite in larger groups with one authority


[26-Jan-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is very good for that purpose.


[26-Jan-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't necessarily *care* whether what they've heard said to them by some messiah etc. is correct or not.


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
They've been doing it long before trump or sargon were relevant


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their goals are to use that person's authority as leverage to own the libs.


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
This was happening back in 2006 when 4chan was still fledgling


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But without Trump, it was less organized.


[26-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives need leaders.


[26-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump's not a leader. Not even a 'leader'. He's an embarassment and a wrecking ball, and people only cling to him in fear that cause of him everything good in their lives gonna come crashing down.


[26-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter if the leader is incompetent


[26-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the leader gets what he wants with the conservatives as soldiers


[26-Jan-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they get what they want with him to unite them


[26-Jan-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump is a conservative leader


[26-Jan-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I recognize it


[26-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
His actual decisions are largely irrelevant.


[26-Jan-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just needs to vaguely remain on their side.


[26-Jan-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
It becomes all the more poignant how much he is their leader when he declares policies that are against longstanding republican doctrine


[26-Jan-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
And they all fall in line behind it


[26-Jan-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Cowards


[26-Jan-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Not even capable of an independent thought


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Joan of Arc strategy.


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it's that or bust, now.


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Must follow leader


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get a crazy person with a vision that ruffly aligns with what you want


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
you giv them a banner and a rusty sword


[26-Jan-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you march on to victory even if they're a complete moron who gets themselves captured and executed.


[26-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joan of Arc knew nothing about warfare and if everybody did what she said, France would've lost really, really hard.


[26-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the generals just ignored her actual words, lied to her, and used her as a morale boost


[26-Jan-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then when England got her they were like HAHA YOU WERE ALL WRONG SEE WE BURNED YOUR HERETIC


[26-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that just made her a martyr


[26-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
England lost the war.


[26-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things are different with Trump largely because he actually has authority.


[26-Jan-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kinda needs to be removed.


[26-Jan-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if he's president forever he *will* gut Democrats.


[26-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I have a different idea. Trump was a reactonary move to percieved liberal threat. He was very much what US politicians were not. This was good for people who thought they got fed up with gay trans women on every corner and every TV channel.


[26-Jan-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
instead of 'return to normalcy' however, they got a dumpster fire. With what appeared to be a majority now angry at them.


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them wanted a dumpster fire.


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
so what now? Ride along with him cause if he's gone it's alllllll the way down now.


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
he was what they were, he was just more brazen about it


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump being a dumpster fire is the biggest reason they chose him.


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
brag about committing sexual assault? republican wet dream


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like having to hide their racist, sexist side.


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
openly humiliate gay people? oh my goodness


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
insist on traditional roles for women? \*orgasm\*


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like having to bow down to people on matters like "whether you shouldn't punch homeless people in the face for existing"


[26-Jan-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
prayer in schools? stop I can only get so erect


[26-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[26-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they weren't just reacting to trans people or gay marriage


[26-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were reacting to how increasingly it became verboten for them to express their views publicly without euphemism.


[26-Jan-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a long time, Republicans on stage would dogwhistle, but the common man on the street would say "yeah I know what he means! Gays are gonna get LYNCHED LIKE THEY DESERVE!"


[26-Jan-20 03:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221255245117952000

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All Democrats should watch this! https://t.co/WFK33pR0Lv
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[26-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly, people would beat them up or stop talking to them over that.


[26-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of dogwhistling softer, Trump started yelling.


[26-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those people saw him as their friend, that they could hav a beer with and agree that mexicans are the root of all our problems.


[26-Jan-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a parasocial relationship.


[26-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't know these random wakkjobs, but they feel they know him.


[26-Jan-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is their waifu.


[26-Jan-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1221135646107955200

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Let’s be clear: Transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time. There is no room for compromise when it comes to basic human rights.
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[26-Jan-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Should we believe him? Sounds like he's trying to desperately reach for everyone he can


[26-Jan-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hm


[26-Jan-20 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno joe you'd think it'd have come up sooner with you if it was


[26-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's just putting out a talking point with "civil rights"


[26-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tomorrow he'll be saying that violent video games cause violence against women


[26-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that we should ban them to make women more equal


[26-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no real substance behind this, it's a blanket statement of nothingness.


[26-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No compromise **on what exactly**?


[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not talking about the Trump trans ban in the military, or discriminatory legal codes, or anything.


[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No compromise on awareness!


[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has plenty of characters left in the tweet to pikk a particular thing of those, there are tons of examples.


[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6jxjKPNZQ

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How Habbo Hotel Turned Its Players Into Ruthless Teenage Capitalists
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[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, if you peg him on any one issue, he'll immediately say there's compromise to be made.


[26-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the "dodge the question" strategy


[26-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't giv specifics, that way you can constantly change what you say without consequences.


[26-Jan-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Biden's LGBTQ record draws scrutiny at Iowa presidential forum
Former Vice President Joe Biden's decades-long record on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues was scrutinized on Friday in Iowa at the first major forum focused on the topic during the 2020 Democratic presidential nominating contest.
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[26-Jan-20 04:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> Trump doesn't know these random wakkjobs, but they feel they know him.
> He is their waifu.
@Nebbie I can see Christians with Trump body pillows while screaming at their kid for wanking off pictures of asians.


[26-Jan-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want their children to take after a conservative American white guy, not a Japanese person.


[26-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
the children would be better off doing that too tbh.


[26-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
japanese have driven their society into the ground.


[26-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
least that's how it appears without experiencing it in person.


[26-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
America is emulating the exact things the Japanese are doing wrong.


[26-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And very little of what they are doing right.


[26-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're just not quite as intense about it yet.


[26-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv it a decade.


[26-Jan-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pretty sure the issues with Japan is less that their politics are shit and more that they technically haven't crawled out of a depression that began in like, the 80's or 90's when they burst a massive fucking bubble and tanked it, so everyone has to work either long hours or multiple jobs to cover for expenses.


[26-Jan-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
But since we have some very big bubbles ourselves looming, and the nature of America's pattern of recessions and depressions mirroring our periods of growth; and we are now on the longest historical period of growth for the US economy, we're gonna get the big one.


[26-Jan-20 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which isn't going into the murky mud of how a lot of the present growth is artificially constructed to stimulate and encourage the growth we are in by the Federal Reserve. It's just a matter of time when things boil over beyond what the Feds can do or feel safe doing when the dam bursts open.


[26-Jan-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then we are at the point of being like Japan and taking the world with us, or someone needs to do like what Iceland did in 2008 and drag every banker in the country to court, try them on financial crimes, strip them of their assets, and re-distribute as part of a financial loss compensation plan.


[26-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The long hours with multiple jobs is the cultural problem I'm referring to.


[26-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what's destorying them.


[26-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US has longer hours now


[26-Jan-20 04:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] Scrolling up, I agree with you on the liberal use of past social media post. I post on Derpi everyday with the feeling that a decade from now, I'll get fired because I fav'd a grimdark pic or something.  It makes me feel like a drug dealer at times looking at ponies.


[26-Jan-20 04:55 AM] illumnious#7938
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Lev Parnas releases recording of Trump dinner: Full video
An attorney for Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas has provided a recording to CBS News of President Trump saying in April 2018 to "take her out" about the Ukrainian ambassador. Watch the full recording here.

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[26-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't get into the /consulate services/ building of an embassy with /wires/ on your person


[26-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But you can mingle with the president while carrying a cellphone


[26-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:makes_sense:


[26-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I recall seeing a story recently that Nancy Pelosi's daughter wanted to test how careful Trump and team are with things


[26-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
she just handed him a bottle of water and nobody said a thing.


[26-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav all the security of a flap for a door that says "pls no enter"


[26-Jan-20 05:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that sounds like an extremely easy way to get people to walk in and plant recorders every where


[26-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They likely do periodic scans for devices


[26-Jan-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess if you look like you belong, they don't want to hassle you with "security"


[26-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
White? You can prank the president with laxatives and nobody will ever know.


[26-Jan-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk? You will get stopped at the airport and questioned.


[26-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, on your way home after testifying to Congress about how you got randomly stopped for being blakk at the airport and questioned.


[26-Jan-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual thing that happened.


[26-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/10/muhammad-ali-jr-detained-airport-congress-hearing

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Muhammad Ali Jr stopped again after testifying about first airport...
Muhammad Ali’s son was detained and questioned after meeting with Congress to discuss a separate airport detention incident last month, a lawyer said
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[26-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
S O C I E T Y


[26-Jan-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie This probably sounds super ignorant, but why does it seem police and security jobs seems to attract racist people to joining


[26-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are probably like 20 reasons


[26-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the biggest ones are probably that racists want authority to abuse those they think should be below them


[26-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that white people are given numerous advantages in being able to be competent, look competent, and ultimately be trusted with authority even if not competent.


[26-Jan-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jobs like cop or security guard attract abusive people like honey attracts flies.


[26-Jan-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the moment a blakk person, or a person okay with blakks, gets in a position of authority, conservatives start getting MAD


[26-Jan-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sense of belonging to a group that supports itself and has a clear purpose


[26-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is often "protect our own"


[26-Jan-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
even when black people get jobs as police offers they often end up perpetuating the racism of the department


[26-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of a blakk guy as a guard keeping a white guy out, or a guard that allows blakks and whites in equally, is offensive to conservatives.


[26-Jan-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
which is crazy


[26-Jan-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it makes perfect sense


[26-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're one of the peasants, it's in your best interests to defect and fight for the king, slaying fellow peasants so you can become part of the nobility.


[26-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just betray your own class to boost yourself up.


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how in human societies the ones at the top maintain control.


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine in most cases it's less "evil" than that


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they couldn't get the lower classes to defect, the lower classes would simply outnumber them and defeat them.


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would lead to constant societal instability.


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was just because they don't want to get fired.


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just having grown up in an environment where you're in more direct contact with "the wrong kind" of black people


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
or ^


[26-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And wanting to be the example for the one that "fits in"


[26-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In American police, it's the *more* evil variety.


[26-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Prove it's not your race


[26-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you'll see the same dynamics in like, basic social interaction.


[26-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're at a party as someone of a lower class, and your buddy starts breaking the rules on manners, you'll probably chastise him even if most at the party are lower class, if anyone of a high class is around


[26-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, in many societies and groups, you'll always have elements that think the worst people on the planet are their own group


[26-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by chastising or even ejecting said buddy, you curry favor with those of the higher classes


[26-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they were in closer contact with the worst parts and/or with the parts that more strongly criticize it


[26-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need not hav any personal problem with the behavior.


[26-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then, if you are very successful, you may commit said behavior all the time, but hav the resources to hide it.


[26-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not everyone's a sociopath...


[26-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh of course not, but society has a lot of rules, some more related to moral matters than others


[26-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even the most moral of people is imperfect and will bend to pressure


[26-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "behavior" could be anything from putting your elbows on the table to child rape.


[26-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that in practice, we already hav a social credit system, it's the basis of society.


[26-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So and so committed a murder, so you downgrade them from 68% good to 48% good, and you think they no longer deserve their wealth.


[26-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah no that's gonna be a bit more than 20% docked


[26-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyway


[26-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your buddy wore a bad outfit and was a bit rude by bringing up a certain topic, so down from 40% to 39% he goes.


[26-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 20 percentage *points*, that's actually pretty impactful.


[26-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That could be a whole rung on a very short societal ladder.


[26-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It should be 68% and sold for parts, but I digress


[26-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed you do.


[26-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some rich guy you see has wealth, so you assume he's 80%


[26-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he spends a tiny sliver of it on the poor, and up to 81% he goes


[26-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so no judge in the land will giv him a harsh sentence if he commits that murder.


[26-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, some poor sap is evaluated as 21%, and then you hear that he doesn't wash his hands, so 19%, and then he's never given an opportunity to raise that score.


[26-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he *knows* it's low


[26-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he's not gonna worry too much about committing a murder etc.


[26-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
but someone up at like, 45%, they've got a lot to lose and a lot to gain, so they'll work hard to inch out every single thing


[26-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll bend over bakkwards for the people up top


[26-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for those up top, yes in theory they've got a lot to lose...but they also hav resources that let them control information flow in their lives


[26-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so they're incentivized not really to *act better*, but to *hide more things*


[26-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And ultimately, while you might want to go ripping people limb from limb, society won't let you.


[26-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society at the end of the day is just concerned with where someone is on the social ladder.


[26-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the whole structure keeps people where they are


[26-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of the wealth is really going where it's deserved.


[26-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the majority of the ways in which we evaluate people's worth is bullshit.


[26-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're actually going "well was he trying to help people or not?", you're in the minority.


[26-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're like, in an extremely liberal position.


[26-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society in its current form is messed up.


[26-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's really unlikely to change much.


[26-Jan-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
see custom status


[26-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, yes cancel culture is trying to make more people accountable, but what it's actually just doing instead is randomly taking a scalpel to people's points over trivial shit and he-said-she-said.


[26-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a little less structured to favor the rich, which is huge, but it really misses the mark because it's like a death laser on every issue.


[26-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man


[26-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just wanna be well off


[26-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, by trying to defeat the armor of the rich against punishment, it becomes utter death for everyone.


[26-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So I can stay in bed for three days in a row and eat krispy fried chicken


[26-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav the resources for that at this point in society.


[26-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like regularly, but, able to do it without having to schedule it a month ahead of time and feel guilty for it


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Society yes, me no


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
People do not need to work this much, and working more makes us less productive, removing a whole day from the workweek would likely increase productivity.


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I would say that there's no reason most people _need_ to work as much as we do


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/cnns-don-lemon-collapses-on-his-desk-in-laugher-as-guests-rick-wilson-and-wajahat-ali-dunk-on-trump/

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[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have to book vacation well ahead of time and sleazy unhealthy food is expensive and makes me feel wasteful


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I am pretty anti-work, fight me for being a lazy socialist slob who lives in his parents' basement


[26-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that if you giv workers a lot of spare time and resources they become politically powerful.


[26-Jan-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich do not like that.


[26-Jan-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9nyew0pw3gc41.jpg

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[26-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, the increasing prevalence of Japanese guys who just...go into their bedroom forever is believed to be directly linked to their obsession with work.


[26-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
```And the whole structure keeps people where they are
None of the wealth is really going where it's deserved.
And the majority of the ways in which we evaluate people's worth is bullshit.```


[26-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
so vote Republican, cause none of this is ever changing.


[26-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment people fail, they just can't handle everything crumbling atop them and so they retreat.


[26-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
sometimes I don't even get why you're saying what you're saying. It's a mix of should be, is and could be.


[26-Jan-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
hiding in my room is a big mood


[26-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would everything I say need a single one of those?


[26-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should vote Democrat btw not because they are anything resembling a sane society


[26-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Opponent#3498
well if it's none of those things, then it's pure theory, entirely divorsed from reality.


[26-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because they might make a few mild improvements instead of just letting businesses crush you day in, day out.


[26-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats don't want to fix society but they'll make it more bearable, a little.


[26-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
no they don't. Why would they? Society only cares about maintaining status quo.


[26-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you kinda need theory to understand the actual thing.


[26-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of theory is to create abstractions you can more readily reason about.


[26-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without all the many complexities that real stuff tends to bring in.


[26-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you try to reason directly only with the real thing, you'll do so very inefficiently and miss things.


[26-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
if it's all about the money, the status, some kind of 'objective meritorious' system where a rich guy is automatically a 80% of 100, labels don't matter much.


[26-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
money do. That's all.


[26-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is society messes with how much money you hav


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they use a separate system not directly equal to your money to decide what to do.


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
the cases of rich rapidly getting poor and poor rapidly getting rich seem vanishingly rare.


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can see this in judges when they say a white boy "had good grades" etc. and let him off easy with low fines and no prison time


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
so in general, no, it really doesn't


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about meritocracy


[26-Jan-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying society has things it believes about what makes a person good that are not directly "he has money"


[26-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
that they use to decide how much to adjust money


[26-Jan-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you think this means ANYONE rapidly moves, you don't understand half of what I'm saying.


[26-Jan-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system of how society decides who is good and who is bad is designed from the ground up to prevent as much movement as possible


[26-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way to mask that the real thing being tested is money.


[26-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So and so has muddy boots that are worn out, so he's a worse dinner guest.


[26-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
(because he has no money)


[26-Jan-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then people are less likely to help so and so with things, reducing the money he'll hav in the future


[26-Jan-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
My entire point is that at the end of the day it's just a system to judge people by their money and keep the wealthy wealthy and the poor poor.


[26-Jan-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you didn't hav this at all, but you still had societal taboos, you would be seeing rich people rapidly lose money after breaking taboos, and poor people rapidly gain money after working hard etc.


[26-Jan-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In some theoretical society where people don't make that determination of a person's social worth before helping etc., then the moment Trump said "grab them by the pussy", he'd notice people abandoning him, and he'd lose his wealth.


[26-Jan-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause he wouldn't hav a built-up image around to keep them in his orbit.


[26-Jan-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything would just be a personal determination, with people saying "I don't like you".


[26-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now alternatively, we could consider a society where there WAS a social worth that was JUST money, but in that case, you end up with a different problem.


[26-Jan-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause under that, there'd be absolutely no change at all to anything, which isn't realistic because it would start to make people really angry when they see like, a friend raped by a rich guy.


[26-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything would just build and build and build until people would *actually* reject society.


[26-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
ok so how is this different to meritocracy then?


[26-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
oversimplified it's wealth = goodness, goodness = wealth, self-reinforcing circle.


[26-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
this seems to be what you're saying society's mission is.


[26-Jan-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a meritocracy, your social worth determines wealth, but your wealth doesn't determine social worth


[26-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a one-way thing


[26-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's not a circle then.


[26-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
actual society has a two-way thing


[26-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I misunderstood it then.


[26-Jan-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That first theoretical society where Trump turning out to be basically a rapist drains his wealth is a meritocracy.


[26-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
My entire point is basically that meritocratic thinking, with a lot of bullshit morals sprinkled on, and an **assumption that wealth means you are good** is really really bad.


[26-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think a meritocracy is actually possible.


[26-Jan-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are bad at logic.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know that being good can earn you wealth.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see wealth, they assume a person is good.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you see the fallacy?


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
right. I think this is the similar difference than between communism concept and Soviet Union.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
if p, then q; q; therefore p


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
theory, and flawed practice.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, byte.


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
formal fallacy of affirming the consequent


[26-Jan-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I think


[26-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a punctuation note, you either need to remove that first comma or make the subsequent ones semicolons.


[26-Jan-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was an XOR btw.


[26-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's wrong to do both.


[26-Jan-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
↮


[26-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, bad logic by itself can't entirely do it, so the other component's that thing with perverse incentives.


[26-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society penalizes you for doing certain behaviors in certain conditions when it notices them, using measures that primarily hurt those with neither little or much money.


[26-Jan-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you just either make it to one of the ends and they can't really do anything meaningful (short of killing you), or you just do it in a way it won't notice.


[26-Jan-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And most people in the middle will comply with all the rules, even if the people at the high end of money wrote them all!


[26-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Opponent, it's a lot like the whole communism/Stalinism thing.


[26-Jan-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aim for meritocracy and hit plutocracy.


[26-Jan-20 06:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILESi04hQe0

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[26-Jan-20 06:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Preview looks like a Jeb! map


[26-Jan-20 06:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eacngbn8k

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eacngbn8k
Scary Weaponized Ignorance from Trumpists
--Scary weaponized ignorance in responses to our recent story about stock market performance being stronger during Barack Obama's first three years than during Donald Trump's first three years as President

Sorry Trumpists, the stock market was better under Obama https://yout...
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[26-Jan-20 06:55 AM] illumnious#7938
technically, the asshants on social media


[26-Jan-20 07:32 AM] jlun2#8758
Before I click on that, is it just basically "WHITE GOOD NOT WHITE BAD" and maybe something about jobs , or is there more?


[26-Jan-20 07:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Stock markets. he just points out trump supports lying and misunderstanding stock markets as if trump made it all good.


[26-Jan-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:trickle_down_economics:

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[26-Jan-20 07:45 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder how many trump supporters even own stock.


[26-Jan-20 07:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
plenty of pension companies shuffling money around in the stock markets.


[26-Jan-20 07:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, some people do get an investment account to have an agent play the market for them based on some instructions / risk ratios, but pension schemes to invest a lot


[26-Jan-20 07:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Back during the 08 crisis it wasn't uncommon for companies to go "Hey, the pension plan you were all pitching in 10% of your paycheques in for the last 25 years? It's gone"


[26-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Opponent#3498
nice. We had a similar experience in 1991, but then the whole country fell apart. To have that in time of _relative_ stability is **big oof**.


[26-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, this video doesn't even play for me in browser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkdmtNJ2uc

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America is a Nation of Terror
This week debates are raging across the internet over whether or not the Austin bomber should be labeled a terrorist. The fact is, America will never recognize white male terrorists who reflect inherent violence of our society.

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[26-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
it only plays in discord


[26-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
in browser, it redirects to https://www.youtube.com/oops?unavail=1

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


[26-Jan-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences."


[26-Jan-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a button to proceed


[26-Jan-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your browser may not work with whatever YT is using to interrupt getting to the vid.


[26-Jan-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
why wouldn't it work? it's worked before


[26-Jan-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
I've watched restricted videos on browser before


[26-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
YT sometimes changes things.


[26-Jan-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without properly testing them.


[26-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
I tried it on chrome, it seems to work but wants me to log in to verify my age


[26-Jan-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
this is some retarded amount of censoring for restricted videos tbh


[26-Jan-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I disagree with his definition of terrorism


[26-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to hav political motives for it


[26-Jan-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise it's kinda meaningless


[26-Jan-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
but yes, this whole "brown person with radical views shooting people is terrorism, white person doing the same needs a clear manifesto that criticizes the US gov't or society" is hypocrisy


[26-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, the US army killing civilians isn't terrorism if the intent is actually to kill terrorists and not to use the fear to get some kind of political change instead.


[26-Jan-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abu Ghraib isn't terrorism either because fear isn't the tool in use.


[26-Jan-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US absolutely does commit terrorism, but most of its war crimes aren't.


[26-Jan-20 09:08 AM] Opponent#3498
the thing is, unless someone explicitly states why a certain action was done, it's impossible to know their intent. Independant organisations and individuals performing terror attacks tend to do so, else the effort would be wasted and no desirable impact would be achived. It's a publicity game after all. Governments (and especially specific individuals within said governments giving orders) tend to be much more opaque about it.


[26-Jan-20 12:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Bolsonaro-More-and-More-the-Indian-Is-a-Human-Being-Like-Us--20200124-0010.html

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Bolsonaro: ‘More and More the Indian Is a Human Being Like Us’
“The Indian has changed, he is evolving and becoming more and more, a human being like us,” Bolsonaro said.
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[26-Jan-20 12:24 PM] ononim#8141
> During a live broadcast on Facebook, Bolsonaro announced the creation of the Amazon Council, a structure created earlier this week to coordinate forest protection activities and also the defense of Indigenous reserves, when he said: **“The Indian has changed, he is evolving and becoming more and more, a human being like us.”**
> **“What we want is to integrate him into society so he can own his land,”** he stressed.


[26-Jan-20 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[26-Jan-20 12:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey look, it's colonialism.


[26-Jan-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Jan-20 01:11 PM] Eri#3666
Hi there


[26-Jan-20 01:12 PM] Eri#3666
can one race be more racist than another


[26-Jan-20 01:12 PM] Eri#3666
If yes, why are some people led to believe they can't be?


[26-Jan-20 01:12 PM] Eri#3666
No race in particular here.


[26-Jan-20 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
as in, inherently or what?


[26-Jan-20 01:13 PM] Eri#3666
I don't even know. give me a second to make sure I understand what they meant.


[26-Jan-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on a lot of variables and locations, like who the racial majority is


[26-Jan-20 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like in america, the highest racist population is white folk


[26-Jan-20 01:21 PM] Eri#3666
So in _effect_ it is indeed possible.


[26-Jan-20 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in asian countries, it tends to be asians who are most racists due to them not having a huge mixed race culture


[26-Jan-20 01:21 PM] Eri#3666
Oh hell yes. Asians seem to really hate each other.


[26-Jan-20 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of chinese companies even have a pet white guy position because that counts as diversity to them


[26-Jan-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they pay him for the ability to sit there and look white for other chinese investors who are visiting


[26-Jan-20 01:23 PM] Eri#3666
...


[26-Jan-20 01:24 PM] Eri#3666
I honestly don't know what to say about that.


[26-Jan-20 01:24 PM] Eri#3666
He doesn't do any _work_?


[26-Jan-20 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s a pr position technically


[26-Jan-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially it makes the company look better and less racist


[26-Jan-20 01:25 PM] Eri#3666
lol


[26-Jan-20 01:25 PM] Eri#3666
that's weeeiiiirrd


[26-Jan-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think they only really get called in when other companies are visiting, or government officials


[26-Jan-20 01:27 PM] Eri#3666
that'd make sense


[26-Jan-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china is full of weird PR jobs


[26-Jan-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again they;re trying to run a dictatorship, they have to have some form of pr to make thme look good tot he locals


[26-Jan-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
military might only goes so far


[26-Jan-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast they were in 2016, i dunno about now


[26-Jan-20 01:41 PM] soundtea#9032
Japan does it in a slightly more active way at times. Some places have a white dude on staff (in an actual position mostly) just because it's the kind of person that actually has the balls to complain to the boss about shit


[26-Jan-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that makes sense, foreigners are less liekly to be as submissive as the work shamed locals


[26-Jan-20 01:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/ambulnz/

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You've Seen Them on the Road, but What the Hell Is Ambulnz?
Patient transport with a techy twist is giving people more options
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[26-Jan-20 01:55 PM] ononim#8141

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[26-Jan-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/479872-biden-leads-2020-pack-in-congressional-endorsements

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Biden leads 2020 pack in congressional endorsements
Former Vice President Joe Biden is leading the 2020 pack in congressional endorsements with just over a week to go before the nomination race officially kicks off with the Iowa caucuses.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_012120getty.jpg


[26-Jan-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/479869-trump-tries-to-woo-struggling-farmers-with-new-water-rule

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[26-Jan-20 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Ononim so what's the problem with that one? Compared to calling an ambulance through the call center in a different city, with the operator eventually (on the third call of 'what's going on, where's the ambo') replying 'well the patient is probably dead already so there's no hurry', this seems positively consumer-friendly (actual situation my friends had couple months ago)


[26-Jan-20 04:09 PM] ononim#8141
This sounds more like underfunded and understaffed probelm, if I read you right, especially if it is in a city and not in a small town or a village


[26-Jan-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
outskirts of a city, so kinda in the middle of those. And, yeah being understaffed/underpayed/overworked is a perpetual problem, but the whole concept of centralised call centers in the capital for the entire country seems incredibly stupid to me.


[26-Jan-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
(and then they can't even staff THAT properly, jfc)


[26-Jan-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
I am very vary of privatization in such context as delivery of patients to hospital, since it invites market forces into area where they most likely to do more harm than good in a long run


[26-Jan-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s too late for that


[26-Jan-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
privitization alreayd hit that hard


[26-Jan-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast in america


[26-Jan-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an ambulance pick up costs thousands of dollars for americans


[26-Jan-20 04:16 PM] ononim#8141
also, I think there might be misunderstanding here, I wasn't reacting to whenever system it uses to choose which uber-like ambulance to dispatch or how it is done, rather to "tech start up acting as public utility"


[26-Jan-20 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[26-Jan-20 05:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://coronavirus.zone/

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[26-Jan-20 05:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this map itself seems to be really useless given that the entire country is highlighted if the number of cases is >0 and the scale is skewed such that there's no discernable difference between the countries with single-digit outbreaks due to China being off the charts


[26-Jan-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-should-apologize-for-minimizing-troops-injuries-vfw-says/2020/01/25/bf310adc-3f98-11ea-baca-eb7ace0a3455_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter


[26-Jan-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Jan-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Jan-20 05:46 PM] jlun2#8758
Wait. Is Trump the only Republican attempting for the 2020 election ?


[26-Jan-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he blocked everyone else form running


[26-Jan-20 05:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He is the incumbent (meaning he currently holds the office). Historically speaking, you don't see many people running against an incumbent in their own party. There are a couple people who tried, but as Pineapple said, they never got any headway


[26-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there were 3 others but trump made severla states up and kill off their primaries

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[26-Jan-20 05:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the RNC basically took Trump's orders and were like, "that's it, no vote splitting, no one else has a chance so we won't even give them one"


[26-Jan-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they gerrymandered their own party


[26-Jan-20 05:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And you look at who those 3 were and...yeah, even if there was nothing democratic about that, they had a point


[26-Jan-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, they were not big names with anything giving them an edge


[26-Jan-20 05:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there was a libertarian, the starbucks guy with no political history, and the third one I can't even recall


[26-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would have basically been the equivalent of that third guy no one remembers from the democrats in 2016


[26-Jan-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the one who wasnt hillary or bernie


[26-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzQ39n2dtw meanwhile coach mcgerk just endorsed bernie sanders

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[26-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yb4_s9TC0c

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[26-Jan-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zosU_DNBCyE

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[26-Jan-20 06:00 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would it help framing medicare for all in terms of pro-life; Although that may horribly backfire


[26-Jan-20 06:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1219741818964922374

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The IDF is officially on @TikTok_us

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[26-Jan-20 06:01 PM] ononim#8141

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[26-Jan-20 06:01 PM] ononim#8141
me, then I do an epic dab on palestine kids


[26-Jan-20 06:01 PM] jlun2#8758
is that gif fan made?


[26-Jan-20 06:03 PM] ononim#8141
thanos? yeah
 IDF vid? no it is official


[26-Jan-20 06:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim the thanos gif I mean; looks like something that would cost a company millions to make yet some fans did it for free


[26-Jan-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
As impeachment trial enters second week, some Americans are changing the channel https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/some-americans-closely-watch-trump-s-impeachment-trial-others-say-n1123201

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"It’s like watching someone sitting in front of all their friends and asking them if they should send you to jail, and you know they are going to say no,” said Lakisha Banales of Las Vegas.
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[26-Jan-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh lad


[26-Jan-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/gcwiav0wl1d41.jpg

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[26-Jan-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
> "It's polite to wait your turn."


[26-Jan-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/homelessness/477303-watch-how-this-3d-printer-is-making-affordable-homes

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Watch how this 3D printer can make an affordable home in just 24 hours
A U.S. nonprofit is teaming up with Texas-based ICON technologies, Goldman-Sachs and others to create a new type of dwelling that could help homeless people globally.
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[26-Jan-20 07:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Jan-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/penis-man-arrested-by-tempe-police-over-graffiti-taggings-11431581

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"They raided my condo and vehicle ... in west Phoenix with 25 heavily armed SWAT officers, and pointed a silenced assault rifle in my face."
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[26-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
evil police and their evil silenced assault rifles xD


[26-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
no prises for guessing which side of gun control this guy would advocate for...


[26-Jan-20 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
why do you think it was necessary for them to conduct a SWAT raid for a nonviolent offender


[26-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Opponent#3498
good question. I don't know.


[26-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Opponent#3498
and sure as sugar this guy aint gonna tell us.


[26-Jan-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Having the gun in his face is just the cherry on top


[26-Jan-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Not you, or anybody else, should implicitly trust the cops


[26-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
well, obviously.


[26-Jan-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
but it's natural for them to be this way.


[26-Jan-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't care if it's natural if it's wrong


[26-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're only like this in the US and de facto dictatorships


[26-Jan-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
what's the context to this stupidity anyway?


[26-Jan-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Graffiti tagger wrote "penis man" on a bunch of buildings


[26-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guy scrawled "penis man" on some stuff with a sharpie


[26-Jan-20 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly merited a full blow criminal investigation and and 30 man assault to take down


[26-Jan-20 07:30 PM] Opponent#3498
if it's just that, not really, no.


[26-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
```"I'm broke and have lost my job," Shomer wrote. "I need help with legal fees to defend myself against Tempe PD. I've got bad PTSD and had an AR-15 in my face 2 days ago. That s--t was real scary."```


[26-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
best way to solve the issue - get notoriety and a gofundme from liberal crowd (hence the gun accent)


[26-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
seems legit.


[26-Jan-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for a moment i thought this was aboutthe guy who graffitied penises in potholes to get the city to fill them


[26-Jan-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
nope. This is just attention grab.


[26-Jan-20 07:36 PM] Opponent#3498
could be he entirely made up the story about swatting as well. It's just his word on it, and it would be recieved well among the anti-gun anti-police crowd.


[26-Jan-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest if this took place in america, i believe the police would really peg a misdemeaner this harmless in this extreme a way


[26-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
These sort of towns and small cities are the ones that buy up surplus military equipment


[26-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like APCs and rocket launchers


[26-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They have people chomping at the bit to get to use their kit and flex those muscles


[26-Jan-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in arizona which has the most extreme goddamned over reacting police force in the country


[26-Jan-20 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And are probably hella pissed they don't have real crime as an excuse to play CoD IRL


[26-Jan-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a reason swatting was such an effective "prank"for awhile


[26-Jan-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police are just itching to fuck someone up guns blazing


[26-Jan-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our police force has the management of a crime syndicate and the problem solving skills of a marine force


[26-Jan-20 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, is this impeachment gonna result in anything if it fails?


[26-Jan-20 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i believe modern Americans are so short memoried that this will likely be forgotten by the time the elections roll in


[26-Jan-20 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
driving trump and the gop even mroe unhinged?


[26-Jan-20 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or paranoid


[26-Jan-20 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the biggest toll will be the republican mental state


[26-Jan-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyone could be the snitch, everything is compromised, no one can be trusted and so on


[26-Jan-20 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If he remains, Trump might want to start an informal witch hunt for whatever dissidents are left in the GOP


[26-Jan-20 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It all depends on if his support base is growing or shrinking


[26-Jan-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP would devour eachother if that happens


[26-Jan-20 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will throw anyone under the bus at the drop of a hat, it;s only a matter of times before he starts turning senators against eachother to keep thme in line


[26-Jan-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/479965-schiff-says-trump-tweet-is-intended-to-be-a-threat

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Schiff says Trump tweet is 'intended to be' a threat
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who has taken a leading role in the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump, said Sunday that a tweet from the president is "intended to be" a threat.
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[26-Jan-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking of, trump is literally tweeting threats at congressmen now


[26-Jan-20 07:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Called it


[26-Jan-20 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump tweeted early Sunday morning that Schiff, whom he called a "CORRUPT POLITICIAN," has "not paid the price, yet, for what he has done to our Country!"


[26-Jan-20 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is to incite people and hope that someone has the chance to physically harm him.


[26-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221454586717839366?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1221454586717839366&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fsunday-talk-shows%2F479965-schiff-says-trump-tweet-is-intended-to-be-a-threat

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After having been exposed as a fraud and corrupt, can anyone, including Sleepyeyes Chuck Todd of Fake @NBCNews, continue to listen to his con?
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[26-Jan-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[26-Jan-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump wants his followers to act as his militarized force


[26-Jan-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/VoiciLaVictoire/status/1221461575514644481

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@MeetThePress @RepAdamSchiff @chucktodd Please call Justice Roberts and leave a message demanding he deal with trump's threat against his impeachment prosecutor.
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[26-Jan-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/479986-republican-senator-trump-tweet-not-a-death-threat

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Republican senator: Trump's Schiff tweet not a 'death threat'
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said on Sunday that a tweet from President Trump saying Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) has “not paid the price” for "what he has done" to the U.S. was not a “death threat."
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[26-Jan-20 09:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some days I wonder what'd happen if there was a march and occupation of DC against Trump. We can all go there under the flag of the Lincoln Battalion.

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[26-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.wired.com/story/germany-rejected-nuclear-powerand-deadly-emissions-spiked/

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Germany Rejected Nuclear Power—and Deadly Emissions Spiked
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[26-Jan-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm so fucking sick and tired of army recruiters contact me to try to entice me with money for college


[26-Jan-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the army does spam calling?


[26-Jan-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's shitty of them...


[26-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/87dec932580995f9b094d8548c2fccf1

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Biden's 'consensus' pitch faces biggest test in Iowa
MASON CITY, Iowa (AP) — On a snowy morning just days before Iowans make their choice in the Democratic presidential contest, Joe Biden invoked President Ronald Reagan, warning a small crowd that...
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[26-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*On a snowy morning just days before Iowans make their choice in the Democratic presidential contest, Joe Biden invoked President Ronald Reagan, warning a small crowd that the nation was at risk of losing its identity as “that shining city on the hill.”

Reverence for Reagan might seem off-key for someone trying to win the Democratic nomination. But Biden’s tribute demonstrates his closing argument before the Feb. 3 caucuses: reclaiming common ground is key to defeating President Donald Trump.*


[26-Jan-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we lost shining city on the hill status about 6 presidents ago


[26-Jan-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US lost it due to Reagan himself


[26-Jan-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Arguably earlier


[26-Jan-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/42e3b7bcb60937c9d52679547fcc01a1

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In divided America, some voters tuning out impeachment trial
HAMBURG, Pa. (AP) — For all the gravity of a presidential impeachment trial, Americans don’t seem to be giving it much weight. As House impeachment managers make their case to remove...
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[26-Jan-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it;s less division and more that everyone predicted exactly how this trial would go


[26-Jan-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right down to an unhinged trump making threats of physical harm


[26-Jan-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Jan-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://wgntv.com/2020/01/24/gov-pritzker-signs-law-capping-insulin-cost-at-100-per-month/

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Gov. Pritzker signs law capping insulin cost at $100 per month
CHICAGO — Gov. JB Pritzker signed a law that will cap out-of-pocket insulin costs at $100 for a 30-day supply.

Bill SB 667 was signed Friday and is expected to impact about 1.3 million people in the state who have diabetes. A press release sent from Pritzker's office said ...
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[26-Jan-20 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> The law will go in to effect effect in ***January 2021***.


[26-Jan-20 10:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Progress but I'm still gonna 🤦


[26-Jan-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least it;s something :shrugpony:


[26-Jan-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe itwill kick start a wave of state bills with other states


[26-Jan-20 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NUJuGSsfNA

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[26-Jan-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[26-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn.


[26-Jan-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/AlisonMorrisNOW/status/1221555983635357696

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[26-Jan-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Jan-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
No values whatsoever lol


[26-Jan-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
"There are none so blind as those who will Nazi."


[26-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so much for pro-life


[26-Jan-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
it's obviously never been pro-life


[26-Jan-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
they have always been supportive of killing people they personally dislike


[26-Jan-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was sarcasm but yes, if it was legal, these people and trump would have burned people on stakes by now for "heresy"


[26-Jan-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they;d make a great publicly televised showing of it


[26-Jan-20 11:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So you just gotta say your baby dances to stuff like Ozzy Osbourne when in the womb and they will give you a "miscarry" pass?


[26-Jan-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the abortion pass, only granted to satanists


[26-Jan-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
The people in that twitter video looks quite young as well. Makes it look like Christian-right will never die off.


[26-Jan-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the christians on twitter are not impressed withthis display


[26-Jan-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also very possible that a lot of  those young people were forced into it and probably complained afterwards


[26-Jan-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's alot of forced attendance events going on with the trump administration


[27-Jan-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/01/trump-threatens-to-cut-nprs-funding-after-pompeo-meltdown/

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Trump threatens to cut NPR's funding after Pompeo meltdown
"A very good question!"
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[27-Jan-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Dewey Cheatem and Howe


[27-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
@byte[] But if they miscarry, won't they be held liable for murder?


[27-Jan-20 01:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[27-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ, one sportsman dies and the news orgs blow their load


[27-Jan-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/480014-bolton-book-alleges-trump-tied-ukraine-aid-freeze-to-biden#

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Bolton book alleges Trump tied Ukraine aid freeze to Biden investi...
Former national security adviser John Bolton reportedly claims in his as yet unpublished memoir that President Trump sought to tie hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Ukraine to his requests for the country's leaders to i
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[27-Jan-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[27-Jan-20 03:34 AM] SemiDovich#0577
Why are people betting on Clinton


[27-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they don't get at this point it actually is too late


[27-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Put down $10 and on the 0.03% chance she shows up and wins you suddenly made $10k


[27-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Odds are better than the lotto


[27-Jan-20 03:36 AM] SemiDovich#0577
still


[27-Jan-20 03:37 AM] SemiDovich#0577
Iowa's like a week away


[27-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too much to start up at this point


[27-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg was pushing it and also has shitloads to throw away


[27-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And even then he's using a method that has never been really tested


[27-Jan-20 03:39 AM] SemiDovich#0577
still, looks like he's in 4th right now


[27-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
3rd


[27-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders may get the nom because the moderate vote is so split


[27-Jan-20 03:43 AM] SemiDovich#0577
3rd?


[27-Jan-20 03:43 AM] SemiDovich#0577
I thought it was Biden, Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg


[27-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nope


[27-Jan-20 03:44 AM] SemiDovich#0577

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[27-Jan-20 03:45 AM] SemiDovich#0577
I won't pretend to know much about politics but I'm pretty sure that Warren didn't disappear off the face of the Earth


[27-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm looking at betting odds


[27-Jan-20 03:45 AM] SemiDovich#0577
oh I'm looking at current polling


[27-Jan-20 03:47 AM] SemiDovich#0577
I know money tends to lead to "more accurate results" because people don't usually like to throw said money away, but Obama at 1.0 and Clinton at 4.4 raises several questions


[27-Jan-20 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, it at least puts to rest any questions about the results being collected from real people


[27-Jan-20 03:50 AM] SemiDovich#0577
I mean, that much is true


[27-Jan-20 03:50 AM] SemiDovich#0577
but I thought the problem with polling is less "hey is it real people" and more "does this poll represent the population"


[27-Jan-20 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on that note, this poll isn't even representing who people are voting for, but rather who they think are going to win


[27-Jan-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
we want sanders


[27-Jan-20 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if Biden feels like he can't drop out of the race or he'll just hand the election to Trump


[27-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think Biden cares about that angle


[27-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rather that if he drops out he confirms the allegations of corruption


[27-Jan-20 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's effectively what I was going for


[27-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Better lose and keep a clean name than admit you or your son were dirty


[27-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Regardless of what happens to the country as a whole


[27-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh my god


[27-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the US news like this every time a celebrity dies?


[27-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well when it's someone like this yeah


[27-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's unexpected and odd


[27-Jan-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus he was one of the greats in his sport


[27-Jan-20 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is more of a catastrophe than usual though


[27-Jan-20 05:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trotskyite Kirk


[27-Jan-20 05:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/381949972939538432?s=19

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Everything is relative in this world, where change alone endures.” 
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[27-Jan-20 05:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trotskyite Kirk


[27-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[27-Jan-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking FOX NEWS


[27-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only story they're running about Bolton's book statements


[27-Jan-20 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is his lawyer complaining that someone at the WH leaked it


[27-Jan-20 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], is bernie the most popular politician in the country nationwide, or by state?


[27-Jan-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I believe that figure was nationwide


[27-Jan-20 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
where was it from?


[27-Jan-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck I can't find it


[27-Jan-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
it's probably wrong


[27-Jan-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
find something accurate


[27-Jan-20 07:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So, to recap, before day 2 of Trump's defense, here were Att'y Purpura's claims:
1. No "reciprocity" on the call.
- Except Trump used this exact word in the transcript.
2. That Ukranians felt "no pressure"
- Except they're at war with Russia, and the quote is out of Trump's own mouth sitting next to Zelensky in a press conference
3. That Ukranians didn't know about the hold until a month after the call.
- Except they knew days after the call, if not earlier, according to testimony from US ambassadors.
4. No witnesses claimed Trump linked investigations to the aid or meeting.
- The witnesses who have testified have identified those who would know for certain. None of those firsthand witnesses complied with the House subpoenas or requests.
5. They got the meeting and the aid they asked for
- At the UN, Zelensky asked if he was going to get that WH meeting he asked for, which he still hasn't. The aid was only released 2 days after the whistleblower report went public, and the full amount was only able to be spent because Congress voted to carry it over past the deadline. (The fiscal year, not the deadline the Executive was supposed to meet when it was first appropriated.)


[27-Jan-20 07:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe they're saving everything to do with Giuliani and the Bidens for Monday, then, given that they got no mention at all in those 2 hours of misleading statements relying on us to be ignorant


[27-Jan-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Bolton thing


[27-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1221663763138588672

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I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens. In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination. If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book. With that being said,...
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[27-Jan-20 09:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[27-Jan-20 09:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't do it, and also he didn't say anything about me doing it until now!


[27-Jan-20 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Who's giuliani? I don't know a giuliani!"- *trump at some point during the trial*


[27-Jan-20 09:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the attention was being put on Rudy, Trump straight up said he wasn't sure he was still his lawyer


[27-Jan-20 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump will try to distance himself from his own blood and bones if it lets him worm out of responsibility


[27-Jan-20 09:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479977-trump-questions-why-npr-exists-after-pompeo-clashes-with-reporter

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Trump questions why NPR exists after Pompeo clashes with reporter
President Trump questioned why NPR exists following his secretary of State’s reportedly heated clash with one of the media organization's reporters.
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[27-Jan-20 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/479959-gop-senator-defends-trump-amid-parnas-recording-certainly-the-president-meets

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Republican Sen. James Lankford (Okla.) defended President Trump Sunday amid newly released audio of a conversation between Trump and Lev Parnas that raises questions about whether Trump lied about not knowing the indicted businessman.
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[27-Jan-20 09:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump - "Get rid of her! Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it." 

Trump's lackey - "He meets 1000 people per day, he can't be expected to remember each time he orders one of them to 'take out' a political enemy. It was a 90 minute dinner!"


[27-Jan-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP elected officials suck on Trump's dick so hard they need to wear diapers so his spooge doesn't leak down their legs


[27-Jan-20 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-worried-damaging-ukraine-probes-will-continue-politico-2020-1

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[27-Jan-20 12:15 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Republicans are fighting for survival at this point.


[27-Jan-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't feel like it


[27-Jan-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There're enough OWN THE LIBS and BETTER DEAD THAN RED voters out there


[27-Jan-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Never mind racists and the like


[27-Jan-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or people that actually believe capitalism is good


[27-Jan-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As in, good for society, not just them

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[27-Jan-20 01:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college is full of them


[27-Jan-20 02:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Donald Trump is what draws in the voters without Donald Trump the Republican party would basically fade into obsecurity because there just aren't that many intresting or likable personalities in the GOP


[27-Jan-20 02:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Hey look who cares about someone’s death https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1221535503868223488?s=21

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Reports are that basketball great Kobe Bryant and three others have been killed in a helicopter crash in California. That is terrible news!
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[27-Jan-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rich and famous, thus matters


[27-Jan-20 02:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1221790577446019072?s=21

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READ THE TRANSCRIPTS!
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[27-Jan-20 02:43 PM] illumnious#7938
What transcripts


[27-Jan-20 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus fuck he just doesn't shut the fuck


[27-Jan-20 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've dealt with 7yo ADHD kids more level than this


[27-Jan-20 02:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1221166040127766528

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[27-Jan-20 02:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chad energy


[27-Jan-20 02:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_In This Moment I am Euphoric_


[27-Jan-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His hat offends me


[27-Jan-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guards, take it off him


[27-Jan-20 03:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Around here's when he'd start screaming about being a sovereign citizen and touching his hat being battery


[27-Jan-20 03:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But battery is only a crime under federal court


[27-Jan-20 03:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which he would not be subject to as a sovereign citizen


[27-Jan-20 03:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So you may as well just execute him


[27-Jan-20 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And send a bill to his family for funerary expenses, to be paid back in gold


[27-Jan-20 03:15 PM] ononim#8141
Onceler


[27-Jan-20 04:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Libertarians are often seen as a joke in politics


[27-Jan-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Because they are a joke


[27-Jan-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9910d6482ed84b8c2018b4c7a15aff0c

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GM to invest $2.2B in Detroit to build electric vehicles
DETROIT (AP) — General Motors is spending $2.2 billion to refurbish an underused Detroit factory so it can build a series of electric and self-driving vehicles, eventually employing 2,200...
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[27-Jan-20 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/trump-bolton-book-ukraine.html

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Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says
Drafts of the book outline the potential testimony of the former national security adviser if he were called as a witness in the president’s impeachment trial.
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[27-Jan-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that book probably says a lot of damaging things about trump


[27-Jan-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Smoking bazooka


[27-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids, dont throw your military advisor under a bus


[27-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they know all your military dirt


[27-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now bolton has nothing to lose


[27-Jan-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5689cc2a46521ffe56f218204deb0beb

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Irish leader says EU will have upper hand in UK trade talks
LONDON (AP) — Ireland’s prime minister warned Britain on Monday that Brexit is far from finished -- and the European Union will have the stronger hand in upcoming negotiations on future relations...
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[27-Jan-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d503019511da4f2580c12f3199ddab79

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Auschwitz survivors warn of rising anti-Semitism 75 years on
OSWIECIM, Poland (AP) — Survivors of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp gathered Monday for commemorations marking the 75th anniversary of its liberation, returning to the place where they lost...
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[27-Jan-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment/bolton-revelation-puts-republicans-under-pressure-in-trump-impeachment-trial-idUSKBN1ZQ13H

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Bolton revelation puts Republicans under pressure in Trump impeach...
Republicans in the U.S. Senate came under fresh pressure on Monday to allow witn...
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[27-Jan-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Romney says 'increasingly likely' GOP senators will back witnesses at Trump trial after Bolton revelations https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/gop-senators-under-pressure-witness-testimony-trump-trial-after-bolton-n1123776

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Romney says 'increasingly likely' GOP senators will back witnesses...
At least four Republicans would need to support Democrats' call for testimony in a vote expected later this week.
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[27-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bolton has severely undercut mcconnell's strategy


[27-Jan-20 05:05 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Its pretty sad people have to pull teeth to get Republicans to do their jobs.


[27-Jan-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the republicans are doing their jobs, that trump gave them with threats of blackmail and loss of power


[27-Jan-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Republicans got elected because they told the electorate they wouldn't do their jobs


[27-Jan-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what you expected


[27-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their job is to the president, not the country


[27-Jan-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
They're just making good on their campaign promises at this point


[27-Jan-20 05:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I expected them to honor their oath to the Constitution, not some two bit con man


[27-Jan-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Nah


[27-Jan-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their campaign promise was basically continue being the wall of no preventing democrats form doing anything


[27-Jan-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Previously they did because they thought they would face consequences if they didn't


[27-Jan-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Those consequences never materialized


[27-Jan-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
So they can do whatever they want pretty much without any repercussions


[27-Jan-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they now have an egotistical sense of security, whether it's a false sense of security remains to be seen


[27-Jan-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
It is probably permanent security for most of them


[27-Jan-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I am reasonably sure Trump will win reelection


[27-Jan-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Kiss this country goodbye


[27-Jan-20 05:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That that Donald Trump thinks this is all ok really says  a lot about him.


[27-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I mean you could've noticed his campaign rhetoric


[27-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
where he said we should go after the families of terrorists


[27-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is hugely immoral


[27-Jan-20 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
or where he said Mexicans were rapists


[27-Jan-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It doesn't say anything about him other than he has an understanding of politics that is about as good as a first grader


[27-Jan-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of this is a surprise.


[27-Jan-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
THIS IS THE PLATFORM HE RAN ON.


[27-Jan-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
He ran on a literal platform of racism and war crimes.


[27-Jan-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure his base would've voted for him if he literally dressed up as a Star Wars villain and talked about how it's a shame he can't blow up liberal Alderaan.


[27-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Complete with a Nazi salute thrown in just in case the metaphor went over their heads.


[27-Jan-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of his campaign speeches was him basically saying he was ready to nuke someone


[27-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A part of me hoped that it was all just for show and that he would prove his naysayers wrong but I guess you really can judge a book by its cover


[27-Jan-20 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well your hope was misplaced.


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
When someone goes on stage and says they're going to kill brown people for being related to terrorists.


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
NEWS FLASH


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
THEY ARE NOT JUST PLAYING FOR THE CAMERAS


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
HITLER IS ON STAGE AND YOU ARE AN IDIOT.


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I expected the institutions of law to be strong enough to resist his authority. I expected wrong, it turns out they bent easily to his authority


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you just had to look at his history to tell you what kind of president he would be


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
That was the only surprise for me


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not a surprise for me.


[27-Jan-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Executive can only be stopped by the other branches.


[27-Jan-20 05:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The president IS the Executive.


[27-Jan-20 05:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
To believe anyone in the Executive who is not president can resist is folly.


[27-Jan-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0eBIzh6Dc

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New York Magazine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0eBIzh6Dc
Donald Trump On Nuclear Weapons
Donald Trump's comments on nuclear weapons are alarming.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gS0eBIzh6Dc/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the courts and Congress don't stop him, Trump can literally make all the oil CEOs run every single agency


[27-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
and not hav any ambassadors period.


[27-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they don't stop him, he can one day decide to just nuke some country.


[27-Jan-20 05:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can sell migrant children into slavery, even.


[27-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just as long as the slavery isn't in the US


[27-Jan-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he already started concentration camps


[27-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some of them hav basically slavery btw


[27-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Migrant gets told if they clean their cell, they get a dollar.


[27-Jan-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they don't clean their cell, they get worse food.


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump had illgeal immigrates working in his hotels so he might be open to the idea of labor.


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
What idea of labor?


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean letting them come here to work legally, no.


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Sally Moon#4922
the bad kind


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is this:


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
slave labor


[27-Jan-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Make it impossible to come in legally.


[27-Jan-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
2. Treat people who come in illegally as an emergency threat to gain votes.


[27-Jan-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
3. Exploit them for cheap labor using constant threat of deportation.


[27-Jan-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
4. Do anything possible to increase the flow of migrants, to keep this going sustainably.


[27-Jan-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
If there's a country getting unstable south of the border, destabilize it further.


[27-Jan-20 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a country needs aid, cut it off.


[27-Jan-20 05:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
If cartels are blowing up, loosen the few regulations that make it hard for them to get assault weapons from the US.


[27-Jan-20 05:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
If migrant children too much are surviving because ICE rounds them up in the desert and gives them shelter, take away the shelter, put them out in the heat, or do the fliparoo and put them in a refrigerated room that they're really not used to.


[27-Jan-20 05:21 PM] jlun2#8758
I just assume the GOP will get rid of term limits if Trump wins and we'll get eternal Trump dynasty (his kids if he dies)


[27-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Images of dead children motivate both parties, but for Trump's base, who are conservative, they motivate disgust, not empathy.


[27-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Disgust makes them blame whoever's close by, AKA the family.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than the ultimate cause, Trump.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Donald trump's immigration policy keeps contradicting it. He says he wants legal immigration but makes it harder for immigrates to come to the country through legal means.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wants white immigration, that's what legal means to him.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, focusing on legal is very important for this.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people see legal and illegal immigration as the same thing, it undermines him treating illegal immigrants poorly.


[27-Jan-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
south of the border is forbidden immigrants, but europe, scandinavia, and canda? those are the good immigrants who bring lots of money with them


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to constantly stress "legal" so that people forget that legal immigration has basically been removed as an option.


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so that people go "well why didn't they just do the paperwork? Clearly Trump was right, these are criminals!"


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  do europeans even want to migrate to US tho? I thought americans fly to EU to get better medicare


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some do, yes.


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Canadians are getting denied too


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] jlun2#8758
unless they're a tech bro i guess


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a fight about Poland.


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US doesn't allow a visa waiver for Polish citizens, despite them being EU.


[27-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Americans can go to Poland visa-free.


[27-Jan-20 05:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reverse is not true.


[27-Jan-20 05:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Polish visas are regularly denied for basic things.


[27-Jan-20 05:24 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume to tho GOP's eyes, Poland isn't "white" enough (whatever that means)


[27-Jan-20 05:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EU now is as a result gonna require Americans to use a more complex system for getting travel approved.


[27-Jan-20 05:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
"White" used to mean English, French, German, and Scandinavian only.


[27-Jan-20 05:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It excluded the Irish, Spanish, Italians, and all of Eastern Europe.


[27-Jan-20 05:25 PM] jlun2#8758
||Sounds racist but I just lump everyone in Europe together as white||


[27-Jan-20 05:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more expansive use of it is primarily because tons of Irish integrated in while blakks began to rise in political power.


[27-Jan-20 05:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The expansion was designed to maintain racism.


[27-Jan-20 05:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize about society, and the basic terms we use, is that these terms are not accidents.


[27-Jan-20 05:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are crafted propaganda.


[27-Jan-20 05:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of saying "white" is to get you to temporarily ignore the differences between Italians and Germans that could create a whole big clash over some random pre-WWI shit so you can go YEAH KILL THOSE LIBYANS THEY WERE GONNA STEAL JOBS


[27-Jan-20 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
>I'm pretty sure his base would've voted for him if he literally dressed up as a Star Wars villain and talked about how it's a shame he can't blow up liberal Alderaan.


[27-Jan-20 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
duh


[27-Jan-20 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
based God-Emperor Trump cleansing the Galaxy from heretics


[27-Jan-20 05:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the point of  saying "brown" instead of narrowing in on a particular minority or listing out multiple is that it riles up conservatives by ignoring their existing terminology and specifically pointing out that they are clearly using skin color shade as an immediate racial litmus test.


[27-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they'll make big talk about how it's "terrorist countries" being targeted or some bullshit like that, but we all know the truth is that even if it was a Canadian citizen, they'll see that shade of brown and start calling the boss about what measures they can take to hassle him.


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, conservatives love to go "asians aren't white, but I'm okay with them, so I'm not racist"


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also makes things black and white, literally, "white is the color of purity and goodness, black is the color of corruption and evil. White is the superior color, ergo we should rule over those crafty black devils"


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But in practice asians are considered white now.


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just math-good white.


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
Assuming Trump wins 2020, do you think they'll force their Christian-right ideology to everyone and boost Christian-right numbers, or nah alienate even more even if they made it an official religion?


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
@Nebbie US free'd us of visa's.


[27-Jan-20 05:32 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Outdated news.


[27-Jan-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did the EU pressure get to them?


[27-Jan-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well considering what trump is doing with christians now, iw oudl say other religions will likely be punished for not being christian


[27-Jan-20 05:33 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
They free'd us on 11 Nov. At Indepedence Day of Poland.


[27-Jan-20 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, right, and Poland had its anti-gay conservative shits who want to strongarm the judiciary win.


[27-Jan-20 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
No wonder.


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
We are most healthy country.


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie 
> But in practice asians are considered white now.
In 2500: Martians are now white, despite natural selection making them diverge quite a bit with Europeans.


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-trump-the-atlantic-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-trump-the-atlantic-2020-1
Hillary Clinton slammed Mark Zuckerberg as 'authoritarian' and pre...
Hillary Clinton called Mark Zuckerberg "Trumpian" and "authoritarian" and said Facebook's ads policies would "reelect Trump" in a new interview.
https://i.insider.com/5e2f014224306a4a33658cc5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
In Polish eyes USA and anyone that accepted LGBT are failing.


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Why does anyone give a shit about what clinton thinks


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Have some insights.


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Holy fuck


[27-Jan-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no idea


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] clickbait that attracts the right-wingers for easy ad revenue


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Like yes it's not wrong, but christ can the media get a spine


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Accepting LGBT people does not hurt your damn country.


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
Do you think Poland will ever accept LGBT


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
According to Poland gals, it does.


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's anecdote.


[27-Jan-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
or nah functioning Mars base with a million people there and Poland still hates gays


[27-Jan-20 05:37 PM] jlun2#8758
and probably working nuclear fusion


[27-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, having less people fukking kill themselves over intolerance is a massive help.


[27-Jan-20 05:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is being hurt by you allowing a gay person to exist. Lots of people are hurt by you not allowing a gay person to exist, starting with said person, and extending outwards to their family etc.


[27-Jan-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the first amendment wasn't in the way, trump would have demanded the senate pass a bill to make criticism of him punishable


[27-Jan-20 05:38 PM] jlun2#8758
Personally I think America will still have the Christian right dominating politics even after we establish a country on Mars.


[27-Jan-20 05:38 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
@Nebbie My country is basically, no gays, no immigrants. But we jump to each other thoart.


[27-Jan-20 05:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
"but"


[27-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
When your unity is built around hating other groups, everything is cutthroat by default.


[27-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's called fascism.


[27-Jan-20 05:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@ImpOfficial well yea. Your country for all I know can literally be the exact same genetic clone with your memories copied 100m times, and time itself will cause divergences in experience, thus causing conflict


[27-Jan-20 05:39 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Seriously if you are richer here.
Everyone is like "he stole it from another".


[27-Jan-20 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It leads to death squads and constant violence against others.


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that particular saying isn't indicative, the poor always hate the rich by default to some extent.


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, a more tolerant society that isn't finding groups to hate is a society that's less violent and more able to actually solve societal problems.


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it keeps everyone on edge ready to believe the propaganda and sell each other out


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
People who are poor like to destroy this richer ones here.


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
And become richer themselves.


[27-Jan-20 05:40 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
We have aggressive mentality.


[27-Jan-20 05:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Aggressive mentalities just lead to people getting hurt.


[27-Jan-20 05:41 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
But when country is lost... Oh boy you better watch out your ass.


[27-Jan-20 05:42 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
We were troublesome through history for those who tried or did take out our country of maps.


[27-Jan-20 05:42 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Or just occupied (like ZSRR or Germany)


[27-Jan-20 05:43 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
I don't like calling people "LGBT", every time it is said that way, I'm reminded of the radical group of LGBT people who make them look like actual horrible people.

There are gay people, and LGBT people.

Regular normal human beings, and crazy as shit people who create the stereotypes.


[27-Jan-20 05:43 PM] jlun2#8758
Everytime I read "normal human beings" I think of overweight people due to obesity statistics now


[27-Jan-20 05:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a terrible association to make.


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
***several people are typing***


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could just apply it to people using the "gay" label the same.


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe if their rights weren't constantly being trampled they wouldn't be so angry


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
@YeleyFan18 People here call all those on parade's LGBT, we hate mostly those ones. We don't really hate those who are normal.


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
did you think of that


[27-Jan-20 05:44 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Poland almost entiery hates LGBT movements


[27-Jan-20 05:45 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
They count those as minority.


[27-Jan-20 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the point of the BT in LGBT is a big thing.


[27-Jan-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bi and trans


[27-Jan-20 05:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will generally in response to things like gay marriage go "okay, fine, you can marry the other sex if you want, but PIKK A SIDE and STAY YOUR OWN SEX".


[27-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you allow that, then they will discriminate against bi and trans people.


[27-Jan-20 05:46 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
Yes, the small number of people who wear little clothing and dance near children, yes, these are the "angry" people that people hate.. And the normal gay/bi/trans person who just wants to live his/her life.


[27-Jan-20 05:46 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
I personally hate those parades, but I have nothing against those who aren't so into "fame:"


[27-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The T is the most important, because if you can actually get people to accept people *changing their sex purposefully*, then all sex-different norms shatter.


[27-Jan-20 05:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
What does it mean for a man and a woman to hav different allowable hair lengths if that man was once a woman or vice versa?


[27-Jan-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if men are cooking for themselves and doing "women's work" then how do we control women?


[27-Jan-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@YeleyFan18 your viewpoint is demonizing sexuality


[27-Jan-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
like do you think kids aren't going to see penises?


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kids show eachother their dicks all the time


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you further are using *gender*-different norms, not *sex*-different norms, then well, what if a person can change their gender on a whim? The norms spontaneously combust.


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
@prism stryder(intexda) Poland is actually working for some changes towards more 50/50 payments.


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a non sexual way


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
@YeleyFan18 I didn't ask for straight people to parade their straightness in front of children.


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
But guess what they do?


[27-Jan-20 05:48 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
My personal issue (but live your life) is not with trans people, but the surgery. It feels like some crazy Nazi prison camp experiment when I see it.

I'm not demonizing sexuality, I'm demonizing a small sect of irrationally angry people who actually ruin it for the rest of the gay community and leave this horrid branding on them.


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) Employers prefer males, but they're totally not gay ofc just being bros that measure each other's dicks and frot no worries


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
80-90% of Poland is conservaitve.


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
you are actually


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
you are saying that it's never okay for kids to see people being happy while naked


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
@ImpOfficial  do you think that will change in your lifetime


[27-Jan-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
implicitly


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
@jlun2 it won't it is my country mentality.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Always is


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being naked is a sin even if children arent around, be ashamed of who you are and hide your sin


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things do change.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Not Poland however


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poland is not a unique case.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
Kids shouldn't know about sex until puberty tbch, regardless of who it is.

But the internet exists.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If societal factors change, society will change.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie they seemingly never change until it suddenly does all at once. like how 2008 everyone suddenly decided to buy a smartphone and throw away their old one. it was weird.


[27-Jan-20 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
@YeleyFan18 so girls should know about sex at 11?


[27-Jan-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
@YeleyFan18 you are full of shit lmao, kids need to know about sex AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE in order to prevent getting abused


[27-Jan-20 05:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(6-14ish, average 11)


[27-Jan-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kids will still know about genitals because those exist regardless of age


[27-Jan-20 05:51 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie That was never taught in my school, so for all I know puberty was becoming 18 lol


[27-Jan-20 05:51 PM] jlun2#8758
not joking


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Puberty happens way earlier than most people think. It would've been 18 in the early renaissance, yes.


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
For peasants.


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being well-nourished makes it happen earlier.


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It happens earlier in African girls.


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
puberty also varies form person to person


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It happens WAY earlier in obese people.


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
An obese African girl may hit puberty at 5


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[27-Jan-20 05:52 PM] YeleyFan18#7343
In scouts we were taught if someone touches your special place you immediately say no and tell an adult.

They don't need the other details, if they touch you in a bad place, say no, run, and find an adult. That's all they need to know.

Not the penis and vagina, not how a baby is made, etc.


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
A normal weight one will usually hit it at 10.


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@YeleyFan18 I hate people touching me anywhere, even my arm


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
for all I know everywhere is special


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the earliest recorded puberty is 4


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which led to the youngest recorded birth.


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
5.


[27-Jan-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
and my parents still think I'm exaggerating every time someone bumps me and I report it


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@YeleyFan18 that's not sufficient, that only works if the child is actually scared


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also does nothing if the guy forces you to giv him a BJ


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
If you deny them the knowledge of that's actually going on, they will engage in risky behavior no matter what


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your mouth isn't your special place.


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
as a rule


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
kids do not do as they are told.


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
As for also Poland. We want to nuke every single one of our goverment ruler there was. Beacuse they aren't speaking for us.


[27-Jan-20 05:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do what they think will help them the most with little regard for authority.


[27-Jan-20 05:55 PM] jlun2#8758
> kids do not do as they are told.
One of my fears is the future gens becoming all christian right because they're told its bad


[27-Jan-20 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a kid does not understand what's going on, but thinks that sukking off this strange guy will get candy, they will do it.


[27-Jan-20 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will not care that they were told to tell mommy.


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need a kid to hav some grasp of what the hell is going on so that they recognize that there is a problem going on that could hurt them.


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they will report it out of self-interest.


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Poland mentality:
I remember being punched multiple times here, just for being with Asperger.


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
I mean


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
hey @ImpOfficial can you follow the current conversation please


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Ok


[27-Jan-20 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well, if you make it taboo to talk about sexual encounters, especially around and with children, then the result is that people will sweep under the rug any sexual encounters involving children.


[27-Jan-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than, you know, report that so and so is raping kids.


[27-Jan-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you hav to hav it so that an adult and a child can talk about how that child's friend got touched.


[27-Jan-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise, all this "tell us if you see someone touch his no no zones" stuff is moot.


[27-Jan-20 05:58 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
We have lots of problems with priests pedos here.


[27-Jan-20 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the child who would be reporting that their friend got touched will, if thinking about what is best to say to not get in trouble, simply avoid talking about the sexual encounter with the adult.


[27-Jan-20 05:58 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Our church doesn't wanna give them nor reform.


[27-Jan-20 05:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie ikr? My experience made me thought becoming an adult will make me go sex negative


[27-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, from their perspective, there is no penalty for not telling you that they saw their friend get touched in the no no zone.


[27-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
There *is* a penalty for talking about something that's taboo (people touching no no zones)


[27-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So out of self-interest, kids will hide abuse of their friends.


[27-Jan-20 06:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
A society that can't talk to its kids about rape is a society of child rapists.


[27-Jan-20 06:01 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
> A society that can't talk to its kids about rape is a society of child rapists.
So you are saying that church here might have bigger problem with that?


[27-Jan-20 06:01 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
I mean molestation of kids and rapes


[27-Jan-20 06:01 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
In church


[27-Jan-20 06:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[27-Jan-20 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Churches are especially prone to this.


[27-Jan-20 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
They demonize sexuality in the extreme.


[27-Jan-20 06:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is a lot of closed-door kid-diddling.


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Can I show something video related here? About Poland's situation of churches?


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@ImpOfficial taboo subjects make said subjects much more desirable in secret
<https://www.salon.com/2016/05/21/the_red_state_gay_porn_habit_why_conservative_states_like_mississippi_and_north_carolina_lead_the_nation_in_same_sex_porn_consumption/>


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUvQ3W3nV4

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BrUvQ3W3nV4/maxresdefault.jpg


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
anecdotally to me we have created a puritan nightmare of a society here in the US that is afraid to ever openly talk about our bodies


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Watch this


[27-Jan-20 06:03 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
And see for yourself


[27-Jan-20 06:04 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
English subtitles avaible


[27-Jan-20 06:04 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
Do not be sacred of crying however... It is scary shit.


[27-Jan-20 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
```Seriously if you are richer here.
Everyone is like "he stole it from another".```
I'm 100% serious here, this sounds like kulak logic. The next logical step after this is collectivisation xD


[27-Jan-20 06:46 PM] jlun2#8758
Googling Kulak, then clicking on the 1st pic at google images suggested these

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[27-Jan-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[27-Jan-20 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
Kulak is 'fist' in russian. Implied that someone holds all their resources in a  proverbial fist and refuses to share, that's why he's got... anything at all above ambient level.


[27-Jan-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/so12hppsqad41.jpg

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[27-Jan-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
some people are not very bright


[27-Jan-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Problem is those statements aren't entirely contradictory, he may view certain things as being better than safety.


[27-Jan-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you really wanna peg someone like that, find a guy that supports arming teachers and go thru the same argument and watch everything burn.


[27-Jan-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who support arming teachers will often make exactly this argument about Trump rallies, because MOOPSY


[27-Jan-20 07:45 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
USA politics.
Read only mode time.


[27-Jan-20 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/24/riot-bonus-mishustin/

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Even Fascist Thugs Deserve Good Pay
Russian National Guard troops. Photo courtesy of Moskva News Agency and the Moscow Times Mishustin Introduces Bonus Pay for Security Forces in Moscow and Petersburg Working Protest Rallies Mediazon…
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[27-Jan-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, poor pay is a way to keep people being thugs.


[27-Jan-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good pay encourages them to actually think and question and potentially change jobs.


[27-Jan-20 07:48 PM] ononim#8141
I suggest you read article and not just the title


[27-Jan-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, monetary incentives for "good performers" etc., a classic one.


[27-Jan-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why any time you deal with incentives or penalties, you need hard rubrics and citing specific actions.


[27-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
@YeleyFan18, I was taught about sex as soon as I was able to ask (like 3 or 4 iirc) and grew up completely fine, there is literally nothing about teaching about sex and the differences between a male and female that is inherently harmful


[27-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
what IS harmful is being sexually abused by the standards of your society


[27-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
then again, there are people who think even mentioning any "naughty" word associated with sex (like porn, breast, nipple, boobies, penis, etc) is NSFW and should be treated the same as actual porn


[27-Jan-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
which is a painfully puritan viewpoint


[27-Jan-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
that gives me derpi tagging flashbacks


[27-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
No joke, I hav a tab open that's a pic I need to possibly rerate cause it has the word "masturbation" in it, in a phrase that's a memey joke.


[27-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile G1 Tirek can threaten kids with beheading and I guess that's just standard kids show stuff etc.


[27-Jan-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
I gave up and rated them all safe, vulgar


[27-Jan-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worst is "horse fucker"


[27-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's clearly talking about sex, but we kind of hav to giv things a pass at some point.


[27-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
"You're a motherfucking dick." - Safe, etc.


[27-Jan-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be nice if society was at a point where Spike could just remark "Wow, how much were Cadance and Shining fucking for it to happen that fast?"


[27-Jan-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what a kid exactly like him would probably say (while not being watched by a crazy parent), but it's verboten cause kids show.


[27-Jan-20 09:03 PM] RYDE#8862
Are we talking about Puritans hypocrisy?


[27-Jan-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[27-Jan-20 09:04 PM] RYDE#8862
Of course, there was a saying that porn warps your mind.


[27-Jan-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I can virtually guarantee there's child abuse going on around every corner in FiM's Equestria unless we assume an audience censor effect.


[27-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They never, ever, ever talk about any kind of abuse or sex.


[27-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, nepotism's rampant, the gov't barely exists, and ponies regularly act like assholes to each other.


[27-Jan-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, Starlight abducted ponies to form an entire town and NOPONY NOTICED THEY WERE MISSING

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[27-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, up until the last CMC ep, no ep had established that ponies even care about parental supervision of children during daytime.


[27-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even then, that was limited to traveling to another town.


[27-Jan-20 09:10 PM] RYDE#8862
Of course. I noticed that.


[27-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would not surprise me at all if turned out the reason Cheerilee doesn't want a romantic partner is because she's diddling the naughty kids.


[27-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least whatever church nonsense they hav isn't too ingrained.


[27-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
(we only saw a priest pony for a funeral)


[27-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
But like, Zephyr Breeze can get into the royal guard. ZEPHYR BREEZE. Granted, he's not actively malicious, but he's really bad at noticing things.


[27-Jan-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
He creeps me out.


[27-Jan-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
He's the kinda guy who will probably take the blame for an incident


[27-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone malicious could definitely get in the guard if Zephyr can, and then soon enuff you've got fillies raped.


[27-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, they'd pin it on Zephyr for sure.


[27-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, that's another thing that's bad


[27-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, with the way RD responds to Zephyr's advances


[27-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's heavily implied there's a cultural perspective where you aren't supposed to be open about your sexual interest in someone


[27-Jan-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly sex-differentially.


[27-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mares may not be supposed to ever say yes or no explicitly.


[27-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is baaaaad.


[27-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Baby It's Cold Outside isn't about a rape, but it's clearly the product of a society where women are discouraged from saying yes, and by extension, cannot truly say no.


[27-Jan-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That stuff leads directly to rape.


[27-Jan-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a reasonable society, RD tells Zephyr she's just not into him, and then maybe he stops.


[27-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the brashful, arrogant, prideful moron of the group is not capable of saying no to a guy, **who ever is**?


[27-Jan-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
Whenever I refuse something I'm considered "rude". I then tell people to fuck off and promptly get in trouble. :shrugpony:


[27-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a trikk you can say "no thank you" to show gratitude while refusing.


[27-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they still consider it rude, they are shitheads, yes.


[27-Jan-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/480114-supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-move-forward-with

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The Trump administration can move forward with a rule to make it harder for immigrants who rely on public assistance to gain legal status while a court challenge plays out, the Supreme Court ruled on Monday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scotus_supremecourt_012219gn12.jpg


[27-Jan-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480094-bolton-sparks-internal-gop-fight-over-witnesses

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Bolton sparks internal GOP fight over witnesses
Former national security adviser John Bolton’s claim in an unpublished manuscript that President Trump told him he wanted to hold military assistance to Ukraine to get officials there to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden has sharpened a
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[27-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/480096-washington-post-suspends-reporter-after-bryant-tweets

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Washington Post suspends reporter after Bryant tweets
The Washington Post has suspended a reporter who said she received death threats on Twitter after sending a tweet with a link to a 2016 story about the Kobe Bryant rape case.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kobebryant.jpg


[27-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Real title


[27-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Washington Post suspends reporter that would be kind of person to get thrill out of telling people that John Lennon beat his wife"


[27-Jan-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
so basicly any random reporter cause that's a prerequisite to any success in the field


[28-Jan-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480186-south-carolina-woman-behind-popular-obama-slogan-says-she-backs-steyer

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South Carolina woman behind popular Obama slogan says she backs Steyer
A South Carolina councilwoman that former President Obama credits for coming up with a popular campaign slogan endorsed billionaire Tom Steyer in an ad released Monday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20191219_steyertom_gettyimages.jpg


[28-Jan-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
wat


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] illumnious#7938
wut


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So she wants a rich white blond guy in charge, just not Trump.


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] illumnious#7938
wut


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is going to make Sanders get the nom so easily


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The centrists are splitting the vote among four candidates


[28-Jan-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Warren is falling


[28-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have never heard of that Obama slogan either


[28-Jan-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought briefly she made the "Hope" poster but that was someone else


[28-Jan-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was a very popular slogan amongst south carolina councilwomen

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[28-Jan-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hope and change are dirty words in the South, pretty much.


[28-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly


[28-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
less "Hope," more "rope"


[28-Jan-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, it's amusing that centrists might lose simply because so many centrists piled on at once


[28-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie wins, I hope he changes the party name


[28-Jan-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Progressive Party etc.


[28-Jan-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd work much better I think in terms of framing the narrative, and might send a message for people like Hillary to GTFO.


[28-Jan-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that said, it's still likely Biden wins.


[28-Jan-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racist shitheads are really worried that even someone like Warren will just spend their money doing things like helping little brown kids get education.


[28-Jan-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Racist shitheads also might split their vote too much


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never heard of "Fired up, ready to go!"


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like the tag line for a grill commercial


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the sort of thing white women love.


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Makes it feel like there isn't a scary blakk man in office.


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you see the drunken white woman trying to heckle a comedian


[28-Jan-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who wanted Bloomberg


[28-Jan-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did not


[28-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/timjdillon/status/1209569510937808896

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[28-Jan-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I gather I think she is Jewish and wants to vote for a Jewish president.


[28-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not Sanders?


[28-Jan-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[28-Jan-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And something about supporting gays, you know, the guy who endorsed Bush in 2004, bet he always supported them


[28-Jan-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile we have footage from the 90s of some guy going off on Sanders for wanting "homos in the military"


[28-Jan-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders doesn't miss a beat


[28-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M2SQzA363A

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Bernie Sanders vs. Homophobic Congressman in 1995
Bernie Sanders, as a member of congress, stands up for homosexuals in this 1995 C-SPAN clip. In the video, Duke Cunningham derisively refers to "homos in the military" and Rep. Sanders can't believe his ears. The exchanged occurred, bizarrely,  while discussing the Clean Wate...
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[28-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy resigned from the House in 2005 and served an eight year prison sentence for taking bribes.


[28-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy he yelled at is a frontrunner to be president.


[28-Jan-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if he regrets his actions.


[28-Jan-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
well, that's the GOP for you


[28-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wondering that is a sign you don't understand conservatives.


[28-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regret is essentially something only liberals do.


[28-Jan-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
SiT doWn YOu sOCialIst


[28-Jan-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly apologized


[28-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apologizing isn't something most conservatives do because they feel bad.


[28-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just another manipulation tactic.


[28-Jan-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize that people who take bribes like that are usually pretty close to being outright sociopaths.


[28-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The nature of being a politician attracts them.


[28-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's some random accountant, then they're likely more normal.


[28-Jan-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But a Republican politician? Regret is not an option.


[28-Jan-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
Republican leader of any kind, then.


[28-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
although I struggle with the notion that a politician can be accountable and have any sort of morals, instead of just 'money above all'.


[28-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
hell, even Conservative morals baffle me by existing and having followers among high-ranking politicians/CEO's/whoever else large and in charge.


[28-Jan-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Divergence_(inequality)

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Great Divergence (inequality)
The Great Divergence is a term given to a period, starting in the late 1970s, during which income differences increased in the US and, to a lesser extent, in other countries. The term originated with the Nobel laureate, Princeton economist and New York Times columnist Paul Kr...
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[28-Jan-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/US_Wealth_Inequality_-_v2.png

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[28-Jan-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that is _insane_


[28-Jan-20 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Kobe Bryant would be alive if LA had a functional public transit system, and he didn't need to fly by chopper.


[28-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that's life Byte *shrug*


[28-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] you didn't hear the WaPo Sanders bottom 50 percent quote thing?


[28-Jan-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just more eye opening (literally...) to see it in infographic form


[28-Jan-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.redd.it/jeqg30sflr731.png

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[28-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I absolutely agree with him. You can't make this shit up.


[28-Jan-20 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0e542922ddfa9a996bdfc9032c39073e

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https://apnews.com/0e542922ddfa9a996bdfc9032c39073e
State Dept. apparently bars NPR reporter from Pompeo plane
WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department Correspondents' Association says the State Department has denied a National Public Radio reporter a seat aboard Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's plane for an...
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[28-Jan-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a little bitch


[28-Jan-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mike  "energizer bitch" pompeo: he just keeps going and going and going


[28-Jan-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/pam-bondi-donald-trump-foundation.html

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By Kevin Sack and Steve Eder
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/us/politics/pam-bondi-donald-trump-foundation.html
New Records Shed Light on Donald Trump’s $25,000 Gift to Florida...
Documents obtained this week by The New York Times, including a copy of Mr. Trump’s check, at least partly undercut a timeline that looked like a quid pro quo.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/09/15/us/15BONDI/15BONDI-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Jan-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
25k is kinda smalltime though.


[28-Jan-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is she accepted a bribe to drop an investigation into trumps fraud schemes, and then lectured people about corruption


[28-Jan-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
btw I asked a right-wing economist friend of mine about his thoughts on the great divergence


[28-Jan-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and while he didn't want to get into a discussion on that right now, he did say this:


[28-Jan-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> by and large I find only jealous and spiteful people care about stock of wealth issues when times are good and flow is good
> it's when flow is bad across multiple social strata that you get people concerned with stock


[28-Jan-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, yes, this guy thinks Trump is the greatest president since sliced bread, how could you tell


[28-Jan-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
everything is fine when the poor are poorer than ever


[28-Jan-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and the rich are richer than ever


[28-Jan-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had someone in electrician class today tell me fast food workers dont deserve good pay because "they just push buttons and flip burgers"


[28-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in that case electricians dont deserve good pay because all they do is screw in wires and change light bulbs...


[28-Jan-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that friend will probably tell you it's different because it's a technical trade


[28-Jan-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and therefore it's "skilled" employment


[28-Jan-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was actually his arguement after i challenged him


[28-Jan-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that friend has also never worked in fast food


[28-Jan-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he claims he did and that he has lived in a box, but i have some doubts


[28-Jan-20 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again knowing the area i live in, it wouldnt surprise me ifthat was true and he still beleived this


[28-Jan-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't believe people's skills give the application of those skills any sort of intrinsic worth


[28-Jan-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
but I also believe people shouldn't have to work, ever


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he just...went on about stokks?


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my question regarding this is "what the fuck is the point of a job if it isnt supporting you?"


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of like, addressing the actual issue.


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he *always* goes on about stocks


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just "what would the market do?"


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bro this is the market doing stuff, you're supposed to say how you feel about it morally.


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as far as I can tell with this guy, the economy and the stock market are the same thing and QOL and such don't factor in


[28-Jan-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they all go on about stocks, the economy is i shambles so they just default to stocks representing the economy instead because the stock market is doing fine


[28-Jan-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy also said there;s no such thing as a living wage


[28-Jan-20 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, that thing about how the GDP is growing at a higher rate than the end of Obama's administration but jobs are lagging behind? This guy would say, both numbers are going up. We're better than ever. Don't pretend to know what you're talking about when you obviously don't, you never took an economics course in your life. You need to stop watching CNN.


[28-Jan-20 02:26 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyeRC08UkeY

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Jimmy Kimmel Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyeRC08UkeY
Trump Has Lied 16,241 Times
Trump celebrated three years in office by paying tribute to himself and somehow brought Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. into it, Trump has officially lied more than 16,241 times, put together an all-star defense team for his impeachment trial, and despite everyone in Trump's circl...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LyeRC08UkeY/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Jan-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
and we won't do a damn thing about it


[28-Jan-20 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
@WingbeatPony your friend's not wrong. It's just that _now_ isn't the _when the flow is good_.


[28-Jan-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think flow means anything with the broader society


[28-Jan-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but just that cash gets around.


[28-Jan-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
but yes, I'm of firm opinion that if bottom-tier jobs were survivable and healthcare wasn't price gouged so badly, people would care much less about 1%


[28-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
well while he used this specific term, what he meant was more broad idea of 'economy in good shape'.


[28-Jan-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
those two aren't equal, but that's not the point here.


[28-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480206-dershowitz-bolton-allegations-would-not-constitute-impeachable

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480206-dershowitz-bolton-allegations-would-not-constitute-impeachable
Dershowitz: Bolton allegations would not constitute impeachable of...
Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Monday said that former national security adviser John Bolton’s reported account of President Trump tying Ukraine military aid to investigations into Democrats would not constitute an impeac
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dershowitzalan_01272020pbsnews.jpg


[28-Jan-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well then just let him say so under oath if you're sure it doesn't matter


[28-Jan-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was he the one talking for a while about how the founders did in fact mean for the president to be like a king


[28-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't able to follow it today


[28-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will check a recap at work tomorrow


[28-Jan-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I caught this, his argument was: quid pro quo happens all the time. You can't just decide you don't like the deal and call it an abuse of power. (He did not make a significant argument about it being for personal gain.)


[28-Jan-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He went on to claim that if you have acts under the heading of abuse of power, *even if they're criminal,* you can't impeach on the heading of abuse of power because that is not a crime in and of itself


[28-Jan-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
impeachment doesn't have to be for a crime.


[28-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
that kinda kills the argument. Impeachment is people finding you lacking and informing you of that in a formal way. Whether you commited a crime or not is secondary.


[28-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I think the greatest impeachment success by Republicans was, to communicate the concept that impeachment === fancy word for a criminal trial.


[28-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
and since nobody else focused on the fact it being any different (it appeared self-evident perhaps? A major marking failure imo), people come to conclusions like these.


[28-Jan-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't blind KAGA2020 fanboy. This is someone who thinks and gets a pretty solid try on an argument. He _could_ perhaps be swayed with a better info presentation.


[28-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment actually is structured like a criminal trial.


[28-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
High standard of showing guilt, and a sort of grand jury before bringing charges.


[28-Jan-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is deliberate in the constitution.


[28-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, if you look at the way things are worded on Double Jeopardy and Due Process, they're designed to carve out impeachment.


[28-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it makes it easy to attack the process. First, you imply it's not similar, but _the same_. Then you point out the differences and tell people they're abuses.


[28-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a big issue.


[28-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The correct angle is impeachment is a criminal trial but with restrictions.


[28-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the intent.


[28-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK had impeachment, but it could lead to execution etc.


[28-Jan-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the framers made it so removal is the ONLY penalty.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's fair enough. It's about being fit for office, not about criminal charges.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
those can come later.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is a lot of what the framers wrote wasn't written with forethought about future generations not getting it.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
it's actually a _good_ idea, too


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a common problem in pre-modern writing.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
a clearly defined mechanism with a simple, focused purpose.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[28-Jan-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah.


[28-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The framers clearly meant it to apply to things that were not necessarily crimes in the legal code.


[28-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut the words they used were vague about that.


[28-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They knew what the words meant, but we mostly don't.


[28-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same problem with the 2nd amendment.


[28-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They meant it to be about state militias.


[28-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It originally had a clause for conscientious objectors.


[28-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They took out that clause...which then meant people were pressed to fight against their own beliefs later on.


[28-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it became less clear what the intent was for when the NRA went around spreading lies.


[28-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now it's basically accepted the founders wanted a gun in every home.


[28-Jan-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's nowhere near as bad as like, bible verses, but it's an annoying problem.


[28-Jan-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't write everything down that's necessary to understand what something means, then inevitably it gets misinterpreted.


[28-Jan-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and when you do, it becomes so dense it's barely legible.


[28-Jan-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The framers probably wouldn't *like* that we hav gay marriage and on paper equal rights among races and sexes, but they'd understand the more universal application of rights and the amendments and interpretation.


[28-Jan-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would not understand the 2nd amendment thing.


[28-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing random asshats to carry weapons they can mow down civilians with wasn't really a problem in their day, and when it came up (with explosives), they were not exactly on the side of the allowance.


[28-Jan-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, making things dense and making things big are not the same thing.


[28-Jan-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making things dense is the poor man's solution, and what the framers were doing.


[28-Jan-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You try to use the exact best words in a tiny sentence to say what really should take two for people to understand.


[28-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll see this with things like "citizen" versus "person" in the constitution.


[28-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The word choice isn't arbitrary.


[28-Jan-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel like if we had given the framers more chance to disambiguate what they meant the constitution would have started off more racist tbh


[28-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that in a really important context like that, the nuance will be lost on not only most people, but also most **judges and legislators**


[28-Jan-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
also that. I'm not sure it would have gotten _better_.


[28-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it could've gotten worse, actually


[28-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
remember, originally only white male landowners could vote


[28-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it took amendments to change things.


[28-Jan-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those amendments would still happen, and they'd still amend.


[28-Jan-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The framers could've written in a ton of racist shit and it wouldn't've actually changed anything.


[28-Jan-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
worst case, they would have been more difficult to pass and there would have had to be more of them


[28-Jan-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if the Constitutional Convention thing ever happens


[28-Jan-20 04:45 AM] Opponent#3498
what's that?


[28-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternate way to do amending.


[28-Jan-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
the states can call a convention to rewrite the constitution


[28-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely impractical now.


[28-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
50 states is too many.


[28-Jan-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay gimme a hand here guys


[28-Jan-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636343782287081492/671559872545947678/OlsKzRF.png

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[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can confirm without question that CNN did not go down


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, just outright lying?


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not much you can do.


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Did anyone follow any of these three?


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait, you mean you think this is true, but that CNN didn't do it?


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would make no sense.


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN is the most partisan network there is on the left.


[28-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, middle.


[28-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's asking if anyone was watching those


[28-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, iirc even these big networks have regional programming and cut long shows for regional ads or news


[28-Jan-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I question the tweet.


[28-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The phrasing is highly suspect.


[28-Jan-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Big 3" is a loaded term.


[28-Jan-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to make it sound like only those networks are partisan, and use that as a whistle for conservatives.


[28-Jan-20 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sperry is a real right-wing lunatic


[28-Jan-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, not much you can do.


[28-Jan-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could post CBS coverage or something, but most people will just see the tweet and not your reply.


[28-Jan-20 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, I've just got someone in another server wondering how true this tweet is


[28-Jan-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
couldn't watch


[28-Jan-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
school


[28-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's surely false, but proving it to be false means finding CBS coverage.


[28-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assuming the tweet means TV, that's annoying to do.


[28-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I honestly only go to The Hill, NPR, and BBC


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
BBC is actually really biased now btw


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill has its own history.


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
John Solomon has his own history with Trump corruption.


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's not super far off centrist


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I go to Global Times for humor.


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
BBC has really sold out hard to clickbait


[28-Jan-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's super against things like Scottish independence


[28-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Global Times is the official CPC tabloid)


[28-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
BBC does a lot to make sure it supports the gov't


[28-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177881.shtml

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Time for some UN agencies to move out of US
2020 marks the 75th anniversary of the foundation of the United Nations (UN) and is bound to be an extraordinary year for the UN. The US reportedly denied Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif a visa to attend the UN Security Council meeting on the theme of upholding...
https://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2019/2019-12-19/7ea4f636-3ba1-44ea-9448-7594d7e0fd86.jpeg


[28-Jan-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means that it'll make "mistakes" to make Boris look less of a fool etc.


[28-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really weird because China basically now is like, the GDR in terms of how much you can criticize things through things like political cartoons


[28-Jan-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joke about your local problems that might be related to Xi but never actually criticize him etc


[28-Jan-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex coronavirus is jokingly called a "patriot virus" because "It only ever infects other countries, doesn't affect us"


[28-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
they're not stupid, at least some of them aren't.


[28-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
what to us seems like a perfect propaganda machine, to them is full of holes a mile wide


[28-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
still, Xi's government will try.


[28-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Prussian model 101, Its


[28-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make the limited range of debate seem lively so that nobody realizes how narrow it is.


[28-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I'm pretty sure they have a pretty wide range of debate. It's just most of it goes by way of 'hint hint wink wink'


[28-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
with possible exceptions of truly dangerous topics like Uygurs.


[28-Jan-20 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also not to leave this thought hanging but I did track down footage from everyone (except CBS, whose website is actual horse droppings) from the live coverage of Pam Bondi's...horse droppings.


[28-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 out of 3 is enuff to not just disprove, but disprove really powerfully.


[28-Jan-20 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
my theory is his cable cut out


[28-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it leaves only one possible one.


[28-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[28-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably just a lie.


[28-Jan-20 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that was a joke, Neb. If your cable goes out, you can't change channels


[28-Jan-20 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am bad at jokes


[28-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[28-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[28-Jan-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"WEAR A MASK"


[28-Jan-20 08:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fun fact: A mask would only protect you against walking through a sneeze cloud. Once it hits the mask and dries, the virus becomes like any other microscopic particulate


[28-Jan-20 08:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a surgical mask, that is. You'd need a pretty serious filter


[28-Jan-20 08:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Will gas mask work?


[28-Jan-20 08:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Depending on the filter, yes


[28-Jan-20 08:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and fitment


[28-Jan-20 08:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a mask does you no good if it doesn't seal to your face


[28-Jan-20 09:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'vebeen using c-span and wapo for the trial


[28-Jan-20 09:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forgot to watch yesterday though, anything of note happen?


[28-Jan-20 09:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480204-gop-senator-suggests-trumps-legal-teams-focus-on-biden-will-impact-him-at

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GOP Iowa senator suggests Trump impeachment defense could hurt Bid...
Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst (R) suggested Monday that President Trump's legal team's focus on Joe Biden and his son during its ongoing impeachment arguments could hurt the former vice president during next week's caucuses.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/barassojohn_cruzted_ernstjoni_01272020getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it might end up inadvertently letting bernie win the nomination


[28-Jan-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
since apparently one of trump's campaign's biggest fears is having to fight bernie


[28-Jan-20 09:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/480199-court-rules-arizona-gops-ballot-law-discriminates-against-minorities

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Court rules Arizona GOP's ballot law discriminates against minorities
A federal appeals court ruled Monday that an Arizona law barring poll workers from delivering votes cast in the wrong precinct to the correct voting location is unconstitutional.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pollingplace_northcarolinavote_110618getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
"In a minority opinion, the court's conservative justices wrote that no evidence of voter fraud was legally required for state Republicans to pass voter fraud measures."


[28-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That fukking sentence.


[28-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The liberal ruling is that it's racially discriminatory.


[28-Jan-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative rebuttal is that it combats fraud, guys, so no need to evaluate racism at all!


[28-Jan-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure The Hill is condensing down and it does touch on that, but this is essentially what it boils down to.


[28-Jan-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just constantly argue that as long as there is even a chance of something bad happening, they can screw minorities in response.


[28-Jan-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also SCOTUS will probably rule in favor of the Republican party because it's recently decided that racism in voting is a solved issue and it doesn't like the idea of liberals having carte blanche to go around removing all sorts of bullshit red rope for lynching minorities bureaucratically.


[28-Jan-20 10:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
half mask wont save you from anything cause it does not seal you completely and also virus could go through tears duct


[28-Jan-20 10:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
it mostly just helps to stop spreading of virus from when you sneezee


[28-Jan-20 10:48 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
its time to buy hazmat suit with oxygen tanks


[28-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
too late for 2020, at least


[28-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/opinion/greta-thunberg-mnuchin.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/opinion/greta-thunberg-mnuchin.html
Opinion | Greta Versus the Greedy Grifters
Why a 17-year-old is a better economist than Steve Mnuchin.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/27/opinion/27krugmanWeb/27krugmanWeb-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Jan-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's a spicy headline


[28-Jan-20 11:17 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it me or it reminds me of "we have 1,000,000 people knowing how to run a country. On Facebook."


[28-Jan-20 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
> One can only surmise that Mnuchin slept through his undergraduate economics classes. Otherwise he would know that every, and I mean every, major Econ 101 textbook argues for government regulation or taxation of activities that pollute the environment, because otherwise neither producers nor consumers have an incentive to take the damage inflicted by this pollution into account.


[28-Jan-20 11:35 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then they outsource the workforce to the country that does not have regulations. Result: local economy suffers.


[28-Jan-20 11:36 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why we have "made in china"


[28-Jan-20 11:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Let me bring a satirical quote:
> World is full of activists, ready to rebuild the entire universe and not able to see anything beyond their own nose.


[28-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
> The International Monetary Fund makes regular estimates of worldwide subsidies to fossil fuels — subsidies that partly take the form of tax breaks and outright cash grants, but mainly involve not holding the industry accountable for the indirect costs it imposes. In 2017 it put these subsidies at $5.2 trillion; yes, that’s trillion with a “T.” For the U.S., the subsidies amounted to $649 billion, which is about $3 million for every worker employed in the extraction of coal, oil and gas.


[28-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
wew


[28-Jan-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
yuge bailout


[28-Jan-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/gop-senators-privately-demanding-to-know-why-white-house-set-them-up-to-take-the-fall-over-bolton-report/

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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/gop-senators-privately-demanding-to-know-why-white-house-set-them-up-to-take-the-fall-over-bolton-report/
GOP senators privately demanding to know why White House set them ...
As of Monday morning, Republican senators have made no direct comments yet about the bombshell New York Times report revealing former National Security Adviser John Bolton’s allegation that President Donald Trump directly told him he had tied military aid for Ukraine to a p...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Senate-Majority-Leader-Mitch-McConnell.jpg


[28-Jan-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump has had the book since december 30th...


[28-Jan-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he never told the senate GOP that it might become a problem in the future


[28-Jan-20 01:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine WH hoped it would stay under wraps until after acquittal, and that there wouldn't be a second impeachment


[28-Jan-20 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably _a lot_ of nervous sweating when Pelosi stalled on pushing the articles forward


[28-Jan-20 02:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Rudy loses the plot, Fox & Friends struggling to stop him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuvDT8Njw-g

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuvDT8Njw-g
Fox News Desperately Tries to End Unhinged Giuliani Interview
--Fox News' Fox N Friends hosts Steve Doocy, Ainsley Earhardt, and Brian Kilmeade, desperately try to end an off-the-rails interview with Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani

Giuliani has a hard time keeping his mouth shut on TV: https://youtu.be/cDlXO4mw_e4

https...
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[28-Jan-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```Probably a lot of nervous sweating when Pelosi stalled on pushing the articles forward```


[28-Jan-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
so you think there was actual purpose behind it and not just posturing?


[28-Jan-20 03:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
On Pelosi's side, I have no idea what the intent was; I imagine just being able to collect all the info they could to present a solid case before McConnel rushed them in unprepared


[28-Jan-20 03:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
On the WH side, dunno; some people must have known, but don't know that they'd be the same to direct the messaging about wanting the trial to start ASAP and be fast


[28-Jan-20 03:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/PattyLaya/status/1221862457276293121

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Patricia Laya (@PattyLaya)
https://twitter.com/PattyLaya/status/1221862457276293121
Exclusive: Maduro has proposed giving majority shares and control of Venezuela's oil industry to international companies, a move that would forsake decades of state monopoly: https://t.co/f9EK1DbhfY by @zerpius @lkassai @BenBartenstein (1/3)
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[28-Jan-20 03:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's confirmed


[28-Jan-20 03:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyone stanning for Maduro rn is probably just some tankie


[28-Jan-20 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, he's done what?


[28-Jan-20 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/480233-trump-lashes-out-at-cnns-don-lemon-after-segment-mocking-supporters-dumbest

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Trump hits CNN's Lemon over segment mocking supporters: 'Dumbest m...
President Trump on Tuesday lashed out at CNN anchor Don Lemon, calling him "the dumbest man on television" after the anchor recently led a segment in which he laughed when a panelist called Trump supporters "the credulous boome
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumplemon_073019getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Completely accurate description of his supporters


[28-Jan-20 03:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"the credulous boomer rube demo"


[28-Jan-20 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/CX3O6ff.jpg

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Sorry, but no
https://i.imgur.com/CX3O6ff.jpg


[28-Jan-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking oh my god it's rick wilson


[28-Jan-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't believe they even let that guy on air anymore lmfao


[28-Jan-20 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bloomberg-suggests-sanders-wants-to-turn-america-into-a-kibbutz?fbclid=IwAR2s3OzjoUuwEfG84o5qmdojCm0YBr0fTitMfyA-0eOzuxQwM3PPHhBDVGs

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Bloomberg suggests Sanders wants to ‘turn America into a kibbutz’
Michael Bloomberg and Bernie Sanders haven't pulled their punches as the Democratic race for the White House veers toward the opening Iowa caucuses on Feb. 3, but Bloomberg this weekend deployed a different line of attack.
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[28-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and back to a rich person calling it communism


[28-Jan-20 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/2iuvhhog1ed41.png

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[28-Jan-20 05:06 PM] ononim#8141
:GWuespThonkVehk:


[28-Jan-20 05:10 PM] jlun2#8758
so do GOP like or hate jewish ppl? they keep hopping back and forth


[28-Jan-20 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://peteseeger.tumblr.com/post/190429143785

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Hopes and Dreams and Fine Imaginings
https://peteseeger.tumblr.com/post/190429143785
Hopes and Dreams and Fine Imaginings
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[28-Jan-20 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
@WiFiWitch


[28-Jan-20 05:18 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
:xd:


[28-Jan-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 the party itself doesn't offer an opinion (there are many jewish republicans)


[28-Jan-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
however the base does, and is mostly in agreement that the _jewish globalist bankers_ are destroying the world


[28-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I still think it's fucking surreal half the senate is making a genuine argument for not having witnesses at a trial


[28-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And this is somehow ok


[28-Jan-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
normal country things


[28-Jan-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP lives in a bizzaro world


[28-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480198-mcconnell-struggles-to-maintain-gop-unity-post-bolton

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McConnell struggles to maintain GOP unity post-Bolton
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is struggling to maintain control of President Trump’s impeachment trial following news of former national security adviser John Bolton’s bombshell manuscript.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_012420gn2_lead.jpg


[28-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also bolton's book is just wrecking the GOP's shit


[28-Jan-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480248-gop-senator-says-senate-should-get-copy-of-bolton-manuscript

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480248-gop-senator-says-senate-should-get-copy-of-bolton-manuscript
GOP senator says Senate should get copy of Bolton manuscript
Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is calling for the White House to hand over a copy of former national security adviser John Bolton's forthcoming memoir.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/lankfordjames_070919gn_lead.jpg


[28-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/480207-bolton-raised-concerns-that-trump-did-favors-for-autocrats-book

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Bolton told Barr he was concerned Trump did favors for autocrats: ...
Former national security adviser John Bolton reportedly told Attorney General William Barr that he feared President Trump was granting personal favors to the leaders of China and Turkey.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/barrwilliam_12182019getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 07:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck https://townhall.com/columnists/bradparscale/2020/01/27/trump-rally-data-show-a-clear-winning-coalition-in-2020-n2560202

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https://townhall.com/columnists/bradparscale/2020/01/27/trump-rally-data-show-a-clear-winning-coalition-in-2020-n2560202
Trump Rally Data Shows a Clear Winning Coalition in 2020
If you want to get a better understanding of the
https://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/s1280x720/2020/15/a591c000-c2db-494f-9598-ec4cdbcd94d1.jpg


[28-Jan-20 07:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1222195145568710656

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Live: Trump and Netanyahu unveil new Middle East peace plan
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who was formally indicted on corruption charges earlier, will join President Trump at the White House on Tuesday, where they will unveil a new Middle East peace initiative. Palestinian officials have condemned the plan, calling it an effort to "finish off the Palestinian cause."
Twitter


[28-Jan-20 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480286-john-kelly-i-believe-john-bolton#

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480286-john-kelly-i-believe-john-bolton
John Kelly: 'I believe John Bolton'
At an event in Sarasota, Florida, on Monday, Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly said he believes the accounts detailed in Former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s memoir.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/johnkelly_screen_shot_2017-10-12_at_2.png


[28-Jan-20 07:14 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-trial-paying-lawyers-rnc-money-republicans-bill-clinton-a9306541.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-trial-paying-lawyers-rnc-money-republicans-bill-clinton-a9306541.html
Who is paying Trump's impeachment lawyers?
Hillary Clinton said impeachment left her and Bill 'broke' and 'in debt'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/01/23/10/trump-impeachment-tweets.jpg


[28-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Opponent#3498
actually a good question.


[28-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/480299-tim-gunn-endorses-bloomberg-joins-his-lgbtq-leadership-council

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Tim Gunn endorses Bloomberg, joins his LGBTQ+ leadership council
Tim Gunn says Michael Bloomberg can "make it work" ... as the country's next commander in chief.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gunntim_010319gn_lead.jpg

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[28-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay what the fuck


[28-Jan-20 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Judge Judy and a fashion designer.


[28-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I doubt Gunn will be able to make _this_ work


[28-Jan-20 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh god


[28-Jan-20 07:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1222224521958187009?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1222224521958187009?s=21
هذا ما قد تبدو عليه دولة فلسطين المستقبلية بعاصمة في أجزاء من القدس الشرقية.
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[28-Jan-20 07:45 PM] ononim#8141
Trump is just down right incomprehnsible, and I don't mean him twitting in arabic


[28-Jan-20 07:46 PM] ononim#8141
is this anti-palestine? Some shitlib way to be pro palestine while still giving most land in west bank to Isreal?


[28-Jan-20 07:46 PM] ononim#8141
I am at viral meme what was spawned by a webcomic Ctrl+Alt+Del


[28-Jan-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480236-bloomberg-hits-double-digits-in-new-national-poll#

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Bloomberg hits 12 percent, surpasses Buttigieg in new national poll
Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg hit double digits in a new Morning Consult poll on Tuesday, marking the latest sign of his campaign's growing support since launching in November.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_bloombergpublicworks_012220.jpg


[28-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31979/american-bradley-armored-vehicles-were-pulled-out-of-syria-after-less-than-two-months

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American Bradley Armored Vehicles Were Pulled Out of Syria After L...
The heavy armored vehicles were only on the ground for a matter of weeks after the U.S. government heavily promoted the deployment publicly.
https://api.thedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/bradley-top.jpg?quality=85


[28-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-taiwan-travel-virus-idUSKBN1ZR1KZ

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-taiwan-travel-virus-idUSKBN1ZR1KZ
Taiwan reports first case of domestic coronavirus transmission
Taiwan reported its first case of domestic transmission of the new coronavirus o...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources_v2/images/rcom-default.png


[28-Jan-20 08:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/27/middleeast/afghanistan-plane-crash-ghazni-province-intl/index.html

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US military plane crashes in Afghanistan
An investigation is underway to determine what caused a US military aircraft to crash in Afghanistan's Ghazni province Monday, a spokesperson for US Forces in Afghanistan confirmed, adding that there is "no indication" the plane was downed by enemy fire.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200128112653-afghanistan-plane-grab-super-tease.jpg


[28-Jan-20 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To those scratching their heads at what the Trump tweet was


[28-Jan-20 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1222224528065155072

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1222224528065155072
This is what a future State of Palestine can look like, with a capital in parts of East Jerusalem.
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[28-Jan-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bro that is just a Bantustan


[28-Jan-20 08:38 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Hoo boy today's gonna be an angry day for me


[28-Jan-20 08:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/martin-shkreli-sued-ftc-new-york-attorney-general-vyera-pharmaceuticals-illegally-monopolizing-drug-daraprim/

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"Pharma Bro" Martin Shkreli charged with fixing price of life-savi...
FTC accuses imprisoned executive and a pharmaceutical firm of scheme to control jacked-up price of toxoplasmosis drug.
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/09/28/1f64ce81-7c2a-4f1a-92f5-08377aef9077/thumbnail/1200x630g2/037a64c43e808a8545a19eab0976e110/martin-shkreli-538408822.jpg


[28-Jan-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan

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Bantustan
A Bantustan (also known as Bantu homeland, black homeland, black state or simply homeland; Afrikaans: Bantoestan) was a territory set aside for black inhabitants of South Africa and South West Africa (now Namibia), as part of the policy of apartheid. Ten Bantustans were estab...


[28-Jan-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Liquidate Isreal


[28-Jan-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
And Palestine


[28-Jan-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1222241940265218049

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Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders)
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1222241940265218049
It must end the Israeli occupation and enable Palestinian self-determination in an independent state of their own alongside a secure Israel. Trump's so-called 'peace deal' doesn't come close, and will only perpetuate the conflict. It is unacceptable.
Twitter


[28-Jan-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
And form a new synthesis


[28-Jan-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[28-Jan-20 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That was what the King Crane Commission from 1919 recommended


[28-Jan-20 08:40 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Or just use the 1947 borders the Israelis have already agreed to.


[28-Jan-20 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King–Crane_Commission

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[28-Jan-20 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Back when the US, or part of it, actually cared about democracy and public opinion abroad


[28-Jan-20 08:41 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
It's too late now to end Israel, it is an established state with established people. But Palestine needs justice.


[28-Jan-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Britain and France tried everything in their favor to manipulate the results of the commission report


[28-Jan-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And still the results were staggeringly against their interests


[28-Jan-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody in the Middle East wanted the Sykes Picot Agreement to happen, or unlimited Jewish settlement in Palestine


[28-Jan-20 08:42 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I know.


[28-Jan-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, this was a hundred years ago, a lot of stuff has changed


[28-Jan-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But Palestine needs justice and opportunity, yeah


[28-Jan-20 08:42 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Israeli-Palestinian confederation is my idea. Two states, 1947 borders, but open borders for people and commerce.


[28-Jan-20 08:43 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
With the possibility for slow integration.


[28-Jan-20 08:43 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Settlements are going to be made part of Palestine, but the residents are free to continue living there under the Palestinian government.


[28-Jan-20 08:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/technology/china-coronavirus-censorship-social-media.html

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By Raymond Zhong
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/technology/china-coronavirus-censorship-social-media.html
As Virus Spreads, Anger Floods Chinese Social Media
The sheer volume of criticism of the government, and the sometimes clever ways that critics dodge censors, are testing Beijing’s ability to control the narrative.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/27/world/27china-social01/27china-social01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Jan-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly Palestine and Israel would ideally relate to each other like how the Latin American states frequently do


[28-Jan-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With lots of cultural overlap areas


[28-Jan-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Frontier regions as areas of mixture, not separation


[28-Jan-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But alas, the powers that be won't want that


[28-Jan-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/_Goldwasser_/status/1222241902721937408

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Richard Goldwasser (@_Goldwasser_)
https://twitter.com/_Goldwasser_/status/1222241902721937408
@lrozen @ElMenshawyM The highlighted areas are within the current municipal boundaries of a Jerusalem but outside the security barrier. That’s the capital Trump is offering Palestinians.
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[28-Jan-20 08:54 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I wouldn't say they are culturally similar, with one being essentially European and the other being Middle Eastern, but they would benefit from working together for sure. Enough of this "Jewish state" nonsense, end the genocide and move on.


[28-Jan-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious  so trump 2020 is inevitable I assume?
Is the situation in Israel even sustainable? It feels like any year now, it will break into war with tons of deaths.


[28-Jan-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
or has that already occurred and i never knew


[28-Jan-20 08:56 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
It already has. Twice. Israel is actively trying to divide Palestine to stop it from happening again.


[28-Jan-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would Israel live like this forever? (or another century at least)


[28-Jan-20 09:00 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
Probably. They're strong enough to force their way to victory. But that's not morally right.


[28-Jan-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
What the fuck is centrism even, I don't understand


[28-Jan-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Political beliefs are propositional attitudes, you either believe it or you don't


[28-Jan-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  no idea; in my mind it's just some "both sides are X" crap that pisses off everyone


[28-Jan-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
There is no middle ground between "I believe immigrants are rapists" and "I don't"


[28-Jan-20 09:01 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
I get being a moderate with beliefs on both sides of the aisle, but yeah centrism is trash.


[28-Jan-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
Quantum fuzzines ofc


[28-Jan-20 09:02 PM] GenericArchangel#2570
The cat is neither liberal nor conservative until you look in the ballot box.


[28-Jan-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
"vaccines cause autism" or "vaccines don't cause autism"


[28-Jan-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't believe both


[28-Jan-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Someone explain to me how this is even coherent


[28-Jan-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
because it makes no sense to me


[28-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] The belief is like, on the spread of binary issues and which side is correct, it's 50/50


[28-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mixed with when it comes to varying amounts, the correct is average


[28-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just plain golden mean fallacy.


[28-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
People get buttmad that Anita Sarkeesian is making incoherent arguments about their precious games


[28-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and that a WWII shooter lets you be a blakk woman fighting for Germany


[28-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then they say that's directly equivalent to everything bad Republicans hav ever done


[28-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
and say Democrats made the game and Anita


[28-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, this is essentially mostly a white thing.


[28-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who've never actually been negatively impacted by Republican racism and sexism.


[28-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So to them, it's all equally abstract and "bad"


[28-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Washington Examiner is INCREDIBLY biased and terrible at factual reporting.


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally worse than Fox News' site.


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I really recommend just outright ignoring its articles.


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will just plain run pieces saying Trump is right and Nancy Pelosi is wrong on impeachment.


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wholesale.


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What article are you referring to?


[28-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The kibbutz thing


[28-Jan-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[28-Jan-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, it was just dealing with Bloomberg


[28-Jan-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And his recent episode in lowkey antisemitism


[28-Jan-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Fox News mostly gets the facts right, it's just that they choose not to present any that look like they might not lead to lib-owning


[28-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's actually the worst area for WaEx


[28-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
What it will do is run pieces that try to turn lefties against each other


[28-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
by making mountains out of molehills with any flaw among liberal candidates.


[28-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is the rising star of centrism and so an easy target to use to set fire to Sanders.


[28-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also this Bolton thing is like the "smoking gun" tape that made the GOP realize Nixon lied not just to Dems, but to them too.


[28-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could be the lynchpin that takes down Trump.


[28-Jan-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Trump does get deposed from the white house and Pence assumes office, this could throw a pretty large monkey wrench into the 2020 election


[28-Jan-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Both parties and all candidates would have to start over completely from scratch


[28-Jan-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, Biden (probably Dem nominee) would be relatively unscathed by the _impeachment_, though his reputation has been damaged by his involvement in the affair that kicked it off


[28-Jan-20 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Overall i believe Bolton's executing his revenge on Trump for not getting his war with Iran


[28-Jan-20 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:P


[28-Jan-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
I think Biden would easily lose against Pence though


[28-Jan-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
the US would prefer not having a media circus for every little bit of ratfucking, and Trump is very open with his ratfucking


[28-Jan-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Pence knows how to do it behind closed doors, if you know what I mean

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[28-Jan-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't you mean


[28-Jan-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Behind the closed gates of the stable?


[28-Jan-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[28-Jan-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcTjAgofSQ&feature=youtu.be

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Club for Growth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcTjAgofSQ
"46" Ad
Club for Growth Action Ad
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[28-Jan-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally nothing in this ad is bad


[28-Jan-20 09:51 PM] illumnious#7938
46 hun?


[28-Jan-20 09:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh lad here’s comes the shitpost


[28-Jan-20 09:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://thenewsdump.co.uk/prince-andrew-explodes-in-torrent-of-20-years-of-sweat-hearing-fbi-wish-to-question-him?fbclid=IwAR2g7KihgSwtH9je_AlcjwwNF7hoNzUvCad-qBj9S5swnJbxWDFdeFoBqXk

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Prince Andrew explodes in torrent of 20 years of sweat hearing FBI...
After being informed by aides, the Prince exploded into a torrent of sweat that had remained inside him for over 20 years.
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[28-Jan-20 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
kaboom


[28-Jan-20 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
gets the tough stains out


[28-Jan-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-29/trump-releases-controversial-middle-east-peace-plan/11908794?pfmredir=sm

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Donald Trump proposes Palestinian state with capital in eastern Je...
US President Donald Trump unveils his long-awaited Middle East peace plan, proposing the creation of a Palestinian state but keeping Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11908828-16x9-700x394.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/28/trumps-defense-is-such-a-failure-that-ivanka-is-attacking-don-lemon.html

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Sarah Jones
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/28/trumps-defense-is-such-a-failure-that-ivanka-is-attacking-don-lemon.html
Trump’s Defense Is Such A Failure That Ivanka Is Attacking Don Lemon
Trump is so divisive that Republicans are mocking him and his defense on TV, and others are cracking up as the Republican rants on about Trump's defense's idiocy.
https://www.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2018-02-21T203152Z_1_LYNXNPEE1K22Q_RTROPTP_4_USA-TRUMP.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:09 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[28-Jan-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Rick Wilson is really dumb sometimes, but he's also hilarious most of the time too


[28-Jan-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Its first brought him to my attention when he said in 2016 that Trump's base was "childless single men who masturbate to anime"


[28-Jan-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
On live TV


[28-Jan-20 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
also said they have "Hitler iconography in their Twitter[...]"


[28-Jan-20 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/king-trump-wants-heads-on-pikes-the-gop-cant-wait-to-oblige

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/king-trump-wants-heads-on-pikes-the-gop-cant-wait-to-oblige
King Trump Wants Heads on Pikes. The GOP Can’t Wait to Oblige.
The creation of a new form of American government, where the executive branch is permanently and utterly above the law, oversight, and accountability is upon us.
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[28-Jan-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480292-trump-praises-pompeo-over-handling-of-npr-reporter-you-did-a-good-job

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Trump praises Pompeo over handling of NPR reporter: 'You did a goo...
President Trump on Tuesday complimented Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for his handling of a dispute with an NPR reporter, making light of the incident and saying that the top diplomat “did a good job on her.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pompeo_trump_071818getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the little bitch just keeps going and going and going and going...


[28-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480128-the-iowa-democratic-caucuses-mapped

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480128-the-iowa-democratic-caucuses-mapped
The Iowa Democratic caucuses, mapped
For a town of about 10,000 residents, Waverly, Iowa, attracts more than its share of presidential candidates. Former Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.) has visited four times.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/iowacaucuses_012520getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some cool maps here


[28-Jan-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480352-gop-senator-plans-to-ask-about-bidens-whistleblower-in-impeachment-trial

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480352-gop-senator-plans-to-ask-about-bidens-whistleblower-in-impeachment-trial
GOP senator plans to ask about Bidens, whistleblower in impeachmen...
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) is planning to use his questions during President Trump’s impeachment trial to ask about a slew of top GOP targets and Trump opponents.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hawleyjosh_012320gn_lead.jpg


[28-Jan-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Got a new Union contract vote to go to. And when I look up its location I see it's in the conference center area right across from where I work my non-union job.


[28-Jan-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fucking lmao


[28-Jan-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
At least I get to change pants before going to do a labor democracy


[28-Jan-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480342-biden-on-michelle-obama-i-sure-would-like-michelle-to-be-the-vice-president

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Biden: 'I sure would like Michelle to be the vice president'
Former Vice President Joe Biden quipped Tuesday that he would “love” for former first lady Michelle Obama to serve as his own vice president.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_obamamichelle_01282020getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look att he one blakc lady i know who is also an obama! You liked the obamas, right?"


[28-Jan-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480325-moderate-democratic-think-tank-supporting-sanders-is-what-trump-wants-you

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480325-moderate-democratic-think-tank-supporting-sanders-is-what-trump-wants-you
Moderate Democratic think tank: Supporting Sanders is what 'Trump ...
Moderate Democratic think tank Third Way is urging Iowa Democrats not to vote for Bernie Sanders as the Vermont senator surges in polls ahead of the first-in-the-nation presidential caucus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_iowa_campaign_20200111_getty.jpg


[28-Jan-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Guys please, we have too much money in long term investment funds that operate on fucking over the country"


[28-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/ev63x2/a_german_machinegunner_lies_dead_in_a_field_after/

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r/MorbidReality - A German machine-gunner lies dead in a field aft...
1,278 votes and 197 comments so far on Reddit
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[28-Jan-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Am I supposed to feel sympathy?


[28-Jan-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, given the guy probably had little personal stake in the nazis, yes.


[28-Jan-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither did most Confederates.


[28-Jan-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480375-republicans-signal-renewed-confidence-theyll-skip-impeachment-witnesses

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Republicans signal renewed confidence they'll skip impeachment wit...
Senate Republicans emerged from a closed-door caucus meeting on Tuesday voicing renewed confidence that they will bypass a nasty witness fight in the impeachment trial.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/barrassojohn_012120gn_lead.jpg


[28-Jan-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[28-Jan-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump's defense team threatened them with pikes this time, huh?


[28-Jan-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't threaten *with* pikes, you threaten with axes, the pikes are just where the heads go afterwards.


[28-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Read my lips


[28-Jan-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No new axes


[29-Jan-20 12:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1222291868375035904?s=21

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https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1222291868375035904?s=21
TFW Mini Mike Bloomberg blows $250 million on TV ads but only goes viral for … abusing a dog. https://t.co/ZhuwSltSC5
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[29-Jan-20 12:15 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.stevedalepetworld.com/blog/president-trump-apparently-doesnt-think-much-of-dogs/

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https://www.stevedalepetworld.com/blog/president-trump-apparently-doesnt-think-much-of-dogs/
President Trump the second President without a pet, and calls peop...
President Trump uses the word dog in a derogatory way, calling people he doesn't like "a dog." He is also the first President without a dog in100 plus years
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[29-Jan-20 12:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How dare he insult doggos like that :trixdisgust:


[29-Jan-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/impeachment-trial-live-01-28#mcconnell-democrats-witnesses

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Trump Impeachment Trial: Live Coverage
The president’s defense team completed its oral arguments, making its case against removing President Trump from office.
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[29-Jan-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
> President Trump uses the word dog in a derogatory way, calling people he doesn't like "a dog.
Furries messed with me and now I kinda see it as a porn thing


[29-Jan-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Daddy twump, call me a dog again pwease, owo"


[29-Jan-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking since you mentioned it at memes and shitposts

https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein/status/1222286544733704193?s=20

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Senator Dianne Feinstein (@SenFeinstein)
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The LA Times misunderstood what I said today. Before the trial I said I'd keep an open mind. Now that both sides made their cases, it’s clear the president’s actions were wrong. He withheld vital foreign assistance for personal political gain. That can’t be allowed t...
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[29-Jan-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit I misclicked


[29-Jan-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah


[29-Jan-20 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/7R0-34vP2zE

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Vocal Synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R0-34vP2zE
Alex Jones reads "The Communist Manifesto" (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Alex Jones. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[29-Jan-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, was there ever a response from honahue


[29-Jan-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480395-giuliani-calls-bolton-a-backstabber-over-ukraine-allegations

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480395-giuliani-calls-bolton-a-backstabber-over-ukraine-allegations
Giuliani calls Bolton a 'backstabber' over Ukraine allegations
Rudy Giuliani admonished President Trump's former national security adviser as a "backstabber" in an interview set to broadcast Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/giulianirudy_050518getty.jpg


[29-Jan-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Backstabber, not a liar


[29-Jan-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
He said "heh" but never specefied if he was to return  @Crow


[29-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
can it be considered a backstab when bolton was the one backstabbed first


[29-Jan-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
more like revenge/retaliation to me


[29-Jan-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it stops being a backstab when you throw them under the bus


[29-Jan-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
also, trump had bolton's book december 30


[29-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
it's not "honorable" by any stretch of the meaning, but basically nothing in politics going back centuries could be considered "honorable"


[29-Jan-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
though it's especially apparent in modern (past 100 years) politics


[29-Jan-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b54b02d0a9d99f0f33ce4c95fd56f8e2

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https://apnews.com/b54b02d0a9d99f0f33ce4c95fd56f8e2
GOP doesn't have votes to block witnesses, McConnell says
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders do not yet have the votes to block Democrats' demand for more witnesses  at President Donald Trump's impeachment trial, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell...
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[29-Jan-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f7d36b9023309ce4b1e423b02abf52c6

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https://apnews.com/f7d36b9023309ce4b1e423b02abf52c6
Trump peace plan delights Israelis, enrages Palestinians
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump unveiled his long-awaited Mideast peace plan Tuesday alongside a beaming Benjamin Netanyahu, presenting a vision that matched the Israeli leader’s...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/095da6f82c2443adb3c327d59bb9b2fa/3000.jpeg


[29-Jan-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be completely honest, knowing trump and netanyahu... this thing was purposely designed to cause conflict instead of peace


[29-Jan-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/892119/foxs-lou-dobbs-declares-john-bolton-veteran-4-gop-administrations-tool-left

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Fox's Lou Dobbs declares John Bolton, veteran of 4 GOP administrat...
The John Bolton who worked in the Reagan administration probably never saw this coming.
According to Fox Business' Lou Dobbs, Bolton, who has never drifted from Republican politics in his 40-plus years in Washington, D.C., is now 'a tool for the left.' That's what a graphic o...
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[29-Jan-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
lou dumbass


[29-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
@ononim https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/671874445086031872/image0.jpg

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[29-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
I saw an alt right maga type post this and implied it was a good thing


[29-Jan-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[29-Jan-20 03:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That's not even counting the English killing the English. Also are Americans during the revolution counted under enemies in war?


[29-Jan-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/republicans-cancel-primaries-trump-challengers-1483126

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Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses as Trump challengers c...
The moves, which critics called undemocratic, are the latest illustration of the president's total takeover of the GOP apparatus.
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[29-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
old, but yeah


[29-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nationalfile.com/china-posts-video-of-hospital-trailers-with-steel-bars-on-windows-locks-on-outside/

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Gabriel Keane
https://nationalfile.com/china-posts-video-of-hospital-trailers-with-steel-bars-on-windows-locks-on-outside/
China Posts Video of ‘Hospital’ Trailers With Steel Bars on Wi...
A video posted to Twitter by a Chinese government official shows the construction of metal trailers with bars on the
https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/China-Hospital-Trailers.jpg


[29-Jan-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hospital"


[29-Jan-20 04:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Quarantine.


[29-Jan-20 04:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
looks like the kind of "hospital" that the jews went to


[29-Jan-20 04:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
does it have a gas chamber in it lol


[29-Jan-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so uh


[29-Jan-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That headline's a bit sensational because I happen to have seen these containers before


[29-Jan-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're advertised as being fully-furnished, transportable mini jobsite offices


[29-Jan-20 04:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hence the bars on the window, to prevent something or someone from bashing in the window on a construction site


[29-Jan-20 04:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, the door locks from the *inside* and unless they've taken to modifying that, this article is pure speculation


[29-Jan-20 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
We have these too. They use them as ~~temporary~~ permanent replacement classrooms for schools over here.


[29-Jan-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow what I don't get is how the list is ordered. It's not by descending amount of kills, nor is it alphabetical. It also has categories that should overlap.


[29-Jan-20 04:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@GenericArchangel anyway i wouldn't make the mistake of considering the Afghan Mujahideen democratic


[29-Jan-20 04:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only a minority were actually in favor of a secular regime


[29-Jan-20 04:50 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
They weren't all extremists, either. Don't forget that an "Islamic regime" is like how Israel is a "Jewish nation." Still awful, but not what you're thinking of.


[29-Jan-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm aware of that


[29-Jan-20 04:51 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
And again, the people we're fighting now are not the same. The Taliban were established well after the Soviets left.


[29-Jan-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They were established during the invasion


[29-Jan-20 04:51 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
1994


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US gladly turned the other cheek to growing salafist influence over the guerrillas they were funding


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They might not have been formally established during the war


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Which was a mistake. I don't deny that. We should've supported the right groups.


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the seeds were already sown


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Massoud was the man we needed in power, and we left him to die.


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or maybe just stood the hell out


[29-Jan-20 04:52 AM] GenericArchangel#2570
Killed on September 9th, 2001.


[29-Jan-20 04:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
The ideology of the CIA has always been described as "neutral pragmatism". Since their inception their modus operandi has been to do what must be done to protect or extend America's influence and interests abroad. Sometimes with tacet permission by the administration, or them just moving automatically.


[29-Jan-20 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the case of Afghanistan, a large part of their activity was in coordination with and approval of ideas made by Pakistan's ISI who opened a lot of what happened on Afghanistan. The largest faction of the Mujahaddin during the resistance to Soviet occupation was selected by the ISI for support by them and then CIA because he was a member of a large Afghan tribal community that passed freely in and out of Afghanistan and Pakistan since their traditional range covers both countries. In a sense, the ISI wanted to use Hekmaytar - the leader in question - to extend influence over the border region on either side. Hekmaytar just also happened to be a opium warlords and made himself and the ISI millions off of heroin.


[29-Jan-20 05:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The cia should have never suported the. Mujahdeen


[29-Jan-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
We shouldn't have been involved period. But the Carter administration and Reagan really wanted to make Afghanistan the Soviet Vietnam so they did.


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the darker thing to the Afghanistan situation is they didn't care, into the mid to late 90's they weren't admitting to anything but they weren't denying it and considered the Taliban a non-issue and a spike on Central Asian heroin merely the price to pay for victory. By the 2000's they began admitting it, but still saying it was still the best thing to do at that time and they still don't care.


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
does anyone have any updates on the coronavirus ?


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im wayyy to paranoid about it


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not worth the panic. It's just SARS 2


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's much bigger than SARS


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Will boom for a bit, stop, and die


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's surpassed SARS now.


[29-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, this is the number of cases SARS had.


[29-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
SARS did that in 6 months, this did it in...2 weeks?


[29-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
China's gonna probably hav some trouble with things.


[29-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The west will probably not feel it much.


[29-Jan-20 05:17 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
will the uk get it ?


[29-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably not.


[29-Jan-20 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thank god


[29-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Number of cases seems to about consistently double every 2-3 days.


[29-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deaths still outnumber recoveries, but that's China. Medical care isn't great there.


[29-Jan-20 05:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so really its only around china and staying in china ?


[29-Jan-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not staying in China


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thailand is clearly screwed


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expect Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. to be screwed too.


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's its main path out.


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
if it can get from Thailand to India in numbers, then India is screwed.


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wow so that hole area then


[29-Jan-20 05:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oof


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad time to be in SE Asia


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Treascair#7785
My friend in Singapore's pissed. To wit: you think those idiots would have learned from SARS, but no...


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
right


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its china tho and they are dumb


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they think they can get away with anything


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a whole lot they could've done


[29-Jan-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is different from SARS in one key regard


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has a much longer incubation time


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cases we know now are people who were infected 2 weeks ago.


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
china has a hole lot of illegal shit going on on so this was only inevitable


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naaah


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The inevitability is from human and animal contact.


[29-Jan-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
All major plagues start in an animal species.


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in a plague's best interests to *not be a plague at all*


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
being endemic is much better.


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mutual survival.


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But, sometimes a mutation makes a virus jump species


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
people will find a way around it


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
then suddenly what would keep a pig etc. alive kills a human


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it spreads to other humans too


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you hav a plague


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
rip


[29-Jan-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This came from snakes in a market.


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in Asia like to eat snakes.


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
not just snakes


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the hole market


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it came from the snakes, in that market


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's unknown which ones, but we know it was one of 2 species.


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
there was also other contaminated meat


[29-Jan-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, it's a virus, and people are dumb about hygiene.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yes


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what rare steak is?


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there's any shit in the middle of that steak, you will get sikk.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only the outside is cooked.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
People consider this a delicacy.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh medium rare you mean ?


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, rare.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medium rare cooks most of the way in.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rare only cooks the outside


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well done means fully cooked.


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah asain countries love rare meat


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
PEOPLE DO NOT FULLY COOK STEAKS


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
look at sushi


[29-Jan-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is retarded.


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's raw meat


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
rare means at least the outside is cooked.


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But consider that


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
It can still get people sick too


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reliance is on ONLY the outside of meat being contaminated.


[29-Jan-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for sushi, on no contamination whatsoever.


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
is it weird I eat sushi with no sense of disgust yet when I put "blood" (Myoglobin, whatever) I get uneasy?


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, China's problem is it's nearly-developed


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I will be more wary of what I eat from now on tho


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has huge cities full of people who used to liv on farms


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't understand hygiene, most of them.


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and just my hygine in gnenral


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a farm, nobody washes their hands


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
thats my grandpa rip


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
everybody's hands are covered in shit and they don't get sikk because they're super immune


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then they come to cities and suddenly they become carriers for all sorts of diseases.


[29-Jan-20 05:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I always take a shower after I come back from a public place


[29-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically China hasn't taken farm culture being a problem seriously.


[29-Jan-20 05:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and trump still wants buisness with them lol


[29-Jan-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes yes, let them fart in public all they want, but make them wash their damn hands when they're in the marketplace.


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
China has really bad attitudes about food


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hygiene


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, one thing they do is they cook eggs


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the piss of prepubescent boys


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
"you have an immune system you'll be fine"


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it's possible to keep a steak rare while sterilizing the interior


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
collected by leaving bukkets in elementary school hallways


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but people don't usually do sous vide.


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  sourc epls


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
you have to be careful on what you cook basically


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wash it first ofc


[29-Jan-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
nvm found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg

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Virgin boy egg
Virgin boy eggs are a traditional dish of Dongyang, Zhejiang, China in which eggs are boiled in the urine of young boys who were presumably peasants, preferably under the age of ten. Named "tong zi dan" (Chinese: 童子蛋; pinyin: Tóngzǐdàn), the dish translates literally...


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
washing is next to useless


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-urine-eggs/urine-soaked-eggs-a-spring-taste-treat-in-china-city-idUSBRE82S0EE20120329

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Urine-soaked eggs a spring taste treat in China city
It's the end of a school day in the eastern Chinese city of Dongyang, and e...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120329&t=2&i=588428162&w=1200&r=CBRE82S0SKA00


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
nope


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
nope


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
nope


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
LB


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WiFiWitch


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im glad china is on my do not visit list


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shota piss eggs.


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
*cringes*


[29-Jan-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@WiFiWitch  in case you click on "@" and have no context https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-urine-eggs/urine-soaked-eggs-a-spring-taste-treat-in-china-city-idUSBRE82S0EE20120329

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Urine-soaked eggs a spring taste treat in China city
It's the end of a school day in the eastern Chinese city of Dongyang, and e...
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120329&t=2&i=588428162&w=1200&r=CBRE82S0SKA00


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
:ponythinking:


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] jlun2#8758
oh nvm you're here


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
lol


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
timing


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
piss is cultural


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think that it will giv you good health


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
more like fuck your imune system


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Show this anytime someone says something "is an ingredient from chinese medicine"


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah piss is mostly sterile


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
> Basins and buckets of boys’ urine are collected from primary school toilets. It is the key ingredient in “virgin boy eggs”, a local tradition of soaking and cooking eggs in the urine of young boys, preferably below the age of 10.


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's harmless.


[29-Jan-20 05:30 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
:isee:


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless one of those boys shits in the bukkets.


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait so its piss from virgins


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  I know; I'm just curious why don't they do it in clean rooms, using artificially made urine


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
virgin boys, specifically


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
they're not going to check if the boy secretly plunged his cock into another person


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
preferably under 10


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
they just get em young


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im so mother fucking done with china right now


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] jlun2#8758
I read about urine being made artificially proving it wasnt organic or whatever so i know its possible. or maybe i read it wrong


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[29-Jan-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's religious


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
:tempsurprise:


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe the eggs will make you better because they are using real piss from little boys


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
:tempsurprise:


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how eastern religion works


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
people do random shit and claim it just magically does something and there's no authority


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@SweetDahlia  I'm sure your culture is completely SFW and has absolutely nothing weird others will see as WTF


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just sell each other snake oil


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
snake oil btw comes from Chinese medicine


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im american yall


[29-Jan-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
tho it actually does do some things


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
pure white


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] jlun2#8758
I look at Americans worshipping pharma selling $300 insulin and be like :ponythinking:


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im already in medical debt ha


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
America's WTF with children tends to be violence


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
mixed with prudishness


[29-Jan-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Little Timmy isn't allowed to see female nips ever, but he's taken out to the shooting range at 8


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] jlun2#8758
also no swearing, but shooting is ok


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] jlun2#8758
also "little timmy"?


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh we also push religion on kids


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generic example name.


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
mainly god


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
cuz god is good


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Circumcision is horrific btw.


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ew


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically just male genital mutilation.


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
its awful


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But oh no


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
when Africa mutilates female genitalia


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
which has an actual marriage purpose


[29-Jan-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's horrible guys


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
how dare they


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
both is pretty bad


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] jlun2#8758
completely unrelated: I'm browsing DA and saw this.

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[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
CIrcumcision should be illegal


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
also in some parts of that country women are demonized when they have period


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
parents who do it should lose their children.


[29-Jan-20 05:35 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they get put in the cows house


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
I don't get why media glorifies losing virginity, but hates sluts.


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
right


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
also


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
sex before marriage is bad


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ups I did a no no


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
looks like Im gonna be burning in hell


[29-Jan-20 05:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
for sucking dick


[29-Jan-20 05:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
worth it


[29-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virgin/whore, @jlun2


[29-Jan-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
AKA Madonna/whore


[29-Jan-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
media is a sexist reflection of culture


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to make women be only for reproduction with the males choosing.


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an organized manner


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's Christianity's thing.


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah my mum told me as a kid that I better wait


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but look how that turned out


[29-Jan-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes sure Christians raise good little Christian boys and lots of them, with the church overseeing.


[29-Jan-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
good little christian boys who will suck priest nuts


[29-Jan-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If women were allowed to choose who they marry, then they might deviate from church teachings, or hav less children, or children of uncertain paternity.


[29-Jan-20 05:39 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im glad I left religion


[29-Jan-20 05:39 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
all religion is bs


[29-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep. Eastern stuff is usually harmless, until it's telling you to shove something dangerous up your butt etc..


[29-Jan-20 05:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I also refuse to get married by any god


[29-Jan-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more organized forms of religion tend to be just fascism by another name.


[29-Jan-20 05:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yes


[29-Jan-20 05:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
there will be no mention of god at my wedding , Im not getting married for him Im getting married cuz I love this boi


[29-Jan-20 05:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the bible is americas shit stain


[29-Jan-20 05:43 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://www.gracechurch.org/about/distinctives/role-of-women


[29-Jan-20 05:45 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
what about that onision tho


[29-Jan-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chris Hansen had his comeback because of him


[29-Jan-20 05:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
right haha


[29-Jan-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hansen himself borderline ruined his reputation because of fraud and screaming at people uploading classic clips


[29-Jan-20 05:59 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats not right tbh


[29-Jan-20 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/671970756690706432/image0.jpg

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[29-Jan-20 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
gonna piss your pants maybe?


[29-Jan-20 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
maybe shit and cum?


[29-Jan-20 11:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jan-20 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/falwell-rallies-rural-virginia-counties-to-secede-and-join-west-virginia

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Falwell Rallies Rural Virginia Counties To Secede And Join West Vi...
The governor of West Virginia and the president of the Liberty University came together on Tuesday and urged conservative counties...
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[29-Jan-20 11:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/trump-s-palestine-plan-slammed-in-pakistan-afghanistan/1717331


[29-Jan-20 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> U.S. President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end the Israel-Palestine conflict has drawn flak in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan.
> 
> Even as the announcement came too late in the night, social media was taken by storm in Afghanistan, with people criticizing the move.
> 
> Palestine Foundation Pakistan (PFP), an umbrella of several political and religious parties, described Trump’s announcement in an attempt to hide his successive defeats in the region.
> 
> In a statement, issued by the PFP Secretary-General, Sabir Kurbalai, said that the people of Pakistan unanimously reject Trump's plan as Israel is an "occupational force", and its status could not be changed through any coercive plan.
> 
> Announcing unwavering support to the Palestinians, Karbalai said that Jerusalem will remain the eternal capital of Palestine.
> 
> Asadullah Bhutto, a former parliamentarian, and deputy chief of Jamat-e-Islami- the country's one of the mainstream religious party dubbed Trump's move as " ridiculous", warning that it would further destabilize the region.
> 
> " Trump's impracticable plan has doomed the already dim chances for peace in the Middle East," Bhutto told Anadolu Agency vowing that Pakistanis would continue to support the Palestinian cause.
> 
> Abdul Basit, a former ambassador described the controversial plan as a "bizarre" move.
> 
> "Trump facing impeachment and Netanyahu corruption indictment are presenting most bizarrely the so-called Palestinian peace plan that is a recipe for more violence and turmoil in the region", said Basit, who served as Pakistan's High Commission to India.


[29-Jan-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/eitc-audit

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Where in the U.S. Are You Most Likely to Be Audited by the IRS?
A new study shows dramatic regional differences in who gets audited. The hardest hit? Poor workers across the country.
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[29-Jan-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://projects.propublica.org/credibly-accused/

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Look Up Priests Who Have Been Deemed “Credibly Accused” of Sex...
Search lists of U.S. Catholic clergy that have been deemed credibly accused of sexual abuse or misconduct.
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[29-Jan-20 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/1222223261674758144

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Who did it better?
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[29-Jan-20 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> <https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/eitc-audit>


[29-Jan-20 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
_hmmm_


[29-Jan-20 02:55 PM] byte[]#2610
looks like where there are black people


[29-Jan-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
what is audit here exactly?


[29-Jan-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
normally it would be 'inspection', but here that doesn't work


[29-Jan-20 03:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's an inspection, I guess


[29-Jan-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
so... why is people doing it bad? To someone who they assume is most likely to abuse the system.


[29-Jan-20 03:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the people who an investigation would punish the most


[29-Jan-20 03:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
IRS literally doesn't investigate people over a certain wealth point because it's too much effort to wade through all their loopholes and find all their assets


[29-Jan-20 03:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Random family of 5 with a rental flat and a second hand car from the 90s? Real easy to poke through their stuff and find any little small thing to ding them


[29-Jan-20 03:40 PM] Opponent#3498
well yes, like law enforcement, they operate primarily on quotas.


[29-Jan-20 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Satire https://i.redd.it/ckr1wj15pjd41.jpg

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[29-Jan-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s something Trump would tweet at 3 in the morning


[29-Jan-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
In his toilet


[29-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I crapped my pants, take that liberals!"


[29-Jan-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/34f8a36cfc3a15ffeede3a74cd0c123a

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GOP lacks votes to block Bolton, other impeachment witnesses
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's impeachment trial is shifting to questions from senators, a pivotal juncture as Republicans lack the votes to block witnesses and face a potential...
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[29-Jan-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess witnesses are happening after all


[29-Jan-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/3d148361d6a2b2e83aa9023c93993229

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German government defends coal phase-out against critics
BERLIN (AP) — The German government approved a bill Wednesday that will codify the country's closure of coal-fired power stations, defending the plan against critics who say it's not ambitious...
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[29-Jan-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
ok so they phase out coal. They phase out nuclear.


[29-Jan-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
going all in on that sweet sweet Russian gas?


[29-Jan-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did germany phase out nuclear?


[29-Jan-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, was a strong lobby against it. Pretty sure it's rip now, although I haven't heard anything recently.


[29-Jan-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also solar and wind


[29-Jan-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so they may slow phase into those


[29-Jan-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not good in their current iteration, not as a primary energy source.


[29-Jan-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
wind needs fuckton of open space with favourable climate


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my city has entire solar fields


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
solar is less demanding, but still depends on things being favourable, requires significant maintenance and producing the panels isn't all that environmentally friendly.


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] ononim#8141
Nuclear scare is fucking stupid


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also true


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Voting doesn't happen until Friday or Saturday iirc


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nuclear plants really just need an upgrade and they shoud be fine


[29-Jan-20 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, there's still the issue of nuclear waste


[29-Jan-20 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck knows what can happen until then


[29-Jan-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not against nuclear energy


[29-Jan-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But something has to be done about waste


[29-Jan-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has to be carefully handled


[29-Jan-20 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just put it on a rocket and launch it into space, what's the worse that could happen?


[29-Jan-20 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(inb4 "entire midwest gets irradiated)


[29-Jan-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480437-trump-lashes-out-at-bolton-over-nasty-and-untrue-book

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Trump lashes out at Bolton over 'nasty' and 'untrue' book
President Trump on Wednesday lashed out at his former national security adviser John Bolton, calling his upcoming book that reportedly contains details about the Ukraine affair at the center of the president’s impeachment “nasty” and “un
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[29-Jan-20 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If Trump's angry about something someone said about him, it's true


[29-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also contains details about his makeup process apparently


[29-Jan-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it takes 2 hours to make him look vaguely human\


[29-Jan-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will admit, i;m curious about reading it myself


[29-Jan-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here's a tip to future presidents, dont throw your national security advisor under the goddamned bus


[29-Jan-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
White people https://i.redd.it/0h6b2ogrmjd41.jpg

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[29-Jan-20 05:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 It was proposed to dump nuclear waste to bottom of the ocean, specifically Mariana Trench.


[29-Jan-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thatwould be horrifying


[29-Jan-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is a whole ass ecosystem down there


[29-Jan-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah but fuck anglerfish tho


[29-Jan-20 05:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Plate movement would suck the waste into the earth's mantle


[29-Jan-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I've read that nuclear waste doesn't really affect wildlife much. Only humans are truly succeptible.


[29-Jan-20 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
fossil fuel waste is so much worse.


[29-Jan-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
like, it's still bad.


[29-Jan-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
but not immediately lethal like, say, an oil spill


[29-Jan-20 05:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But international laws forbid this and earthquakes with nuclear waste would affect ecosystem


[29-Jan-20 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
corexit killed more wildlife than the oil spill ever would have


[29-Jan-20 05:30 PM] Opponent#3498
also probably true.


[29-Jan-20 05:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
sending nuclear waste into the sun


[29-Jan-20 05:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder, how would it affect the sun?


[29-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvR1fRTW8g

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minutephysics
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Hitting the Sun is HARD
Listen to "The Paradox of Choice" for free at http://www.Audible.com/minutephysics

This video is about the orbital mechanics of why it’s so hard to crash into the sun – the energy it takes to get there is astoundingly high, compared with leaving the solar system.

Thanks...
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[29-Jan-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
that turns out to be quite non-trivial; unless you go to jupiter, slow down, then fall back


[29-Jan-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
corexit is such a stupid gamery name too


[29-Jan-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
"corrects it"


[29-Jan-20 05:34 PM] jlun2#8758
I keep reading it similar to brexit, but not quite


[29-Jan-20 05:35 PM] jlun2#8758
so core-exit


[29-Jan-20 05:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 Got it, and any other totally inhabitable planets?


[29-Jan-20 05:38 PM] jlun2#8758
even assuming your rocket never explodes, that may annoy ppl who want to terraform them one day


[29-Jan-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
shoot it into space


[29-Jan-20 05:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
By the time we will have terraforming tech, we will get working fusion reactor tech and nuclear waste from now on will decay.


[29-Jan-20 05:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Reliable rockets are real. For instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz-FG. 69/70 success rate.


[29-Jan-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1222532957900017664?s=20

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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1222532957900017664?s=20
New Hampshire: join our Get Out the Vote Concert Rally with @thestrokes on February 10th! Together, we can win this primary, defeat Trump, and transform the country into one that works for all.

RSVP here: https://t.co/k3PWSSyAYt
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[29-Jan-20 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[29-Jan-20 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I didn't know The Strokes were political?


[29-Jan-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt even know the strokes were a thing


[29-Jan-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/lev-parnas-lawyer-ties-lindsey-graham-to-corrupt-ukraine-scheme/

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Lev Parnas’ lawyer ties Lindsey Graham to corrupt Ukraine scheme
Rudy Giuliani delivered a letter in late 2018 to Sen. Lindsey Graham calling for sanctions on Ukrainian government officials, including a corruption reformer and another who ran the company whose board Hunter Biden served on. The attorney for indicted Giuliani henchman Lev Pa...
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[29-Jan-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/480387-democrats-to-unveil-infrastructure-plan-with-eye-on-2020-elections

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Democrats to unveil infrastructure plan with eye on 2020 elections
House Democrats plan to unveil a framework for infrastructure legislation on Wednesday as they seek to move past impeachment to tout accomplishments for their 2020 campaign.
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[29-Jan-20 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/1222482101557055488?s=19

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pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat)
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They said it couldn’t be done, but Jared Kushner managed to bring together Israel and Israel and come up with a peace plan that gives both the Israelis and the Israelis everything they want
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[29-Jan-20 06:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
🕊️


[29-Jan-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I watched that live


[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was amazing


[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt, is there a clip?


[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please tell me there;s a clip


[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuckin straight faced like zuckerberg


[29-Jan-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
sec


[29-Jan-20 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO9BP6KGHeA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO9BP6KGHeA
Jared Kushner: Palestinians have blown every opportunity so far
CNN's Christiane Amanpour talks to President Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner about the President's Middle East plan #CNN #News
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[29-Jan-20 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also a jewel
https://youtu.be/oO9BP6KGHeA?t=258

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Jared Kushner: Palestinians have blown every opportunity so far
CNN's Christiane Amanpour talks to President Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner about the President's Middle East plan #CNN #News
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[29-Jan-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We brought peace to Palestine by just erasing it entirely, this gives them the opportunity to be a state for 4 more years."


[29-Jan-20 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We also gave jordan territory to isreal because that's how this works, right?"


[29-Jan-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now come to the negotiation table you stupid fuck-ups"


[29-Jan-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/sex-offenders-were-becoming-cops-after-our-stories-alaskas-governor-wants-that-to-end/

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Sex Offenders Were Becoming Cops. After Our Stories, Alaska’s Go...
Gov. Mike Dunleavy’s proposed law comes after Anchorage Daily News and ProPublica found that dozens of rural Alaskan police officers had been hired despite criminal convictions.
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[29-Jan-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://shelterforce.org/2020/01/23/hud-secretary-asks-america-to-accept-housing-segregation/

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HUD Secretary Asks America to Accept Housing Segregation — Shelt...
HUD's rule proposal asks our nation to just accept legacies of racism and give up on our nation’s half-century obligation to create integrated communities.
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[29-Jan-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-threat-john-bolton-book-publication-2020-1

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The White House reportedly threatened John Bolton to stop him from...
President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team has tried to prevent the former National Security Adviser from testifying in the trial.
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[29-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-msnbc-live-stream-24-7-free/


[29-Jan-20 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The defence is literally "OK, Trump wanted to get Biden investigated to boost his election chances, but that's no impeachable"


[29-Jan-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They've got the votes to block witnesses it appears

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[29-Jan-20 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it's gonna backfire badly


[29-Jan-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480526-gop-senators-believe-they-have-the-votes-to-block-witnesses

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GOP senators believe they have the votes to block witnesses
It was clear to Senate Republicans on Wednesday after a morning meeting between Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen.
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[29-Jan-20 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thank you msnbc for interupting the hearing


[29-Jan-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If mitch tries to rush the vote while he has thenumbers, he may lose votes instead


[29-Jan-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480528-senate-gop-could-move-to-quick-trump-acquittal-vote

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Senate GOP could move to quick Trump acquittal vote
Senate Republicans are eyeing a quick acquittal of President Trump that could have the trial wrap as soon as Friday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/thunejohn_012220gn_lead.jpg


[29-Jan-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"One guy gets to make all the foreign policies this is what democracy is"


[29-Jan-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent the IRS didn't used to hav much in the way of quotas, and would actually target the rich. Republicans gave it quotas once they got into power, while also stripping it of budget. They know exactly what they're doing and how it hurts the poor.


[29-Jan-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
right, now it makes more sense.


[29-Jan-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) american construction is cursed with giant cost overruns; can't imagine any infrastructure plan working unless both parties support it for years


[29-Jan-20 08:05 PM] jlun2#8758
> In the Norton Sound village of Stebbins, for example, the entire seven-man police force had been convicted of domestic violence. (Dunleavy has also said that Stebbins and neighboring St. Michael will receive a state trooper this year.)
uh


[29-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html

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Goldman Sachs asks in biotech research report: 'Is curing patients...
Goldman Sachs warns sales from the most successful disease treatments are difficult to maintain.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/104324084-GettyImages-505658023.jpg?v=1559576830


[29-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
this is what's going to end capitalism


[29-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
cures for nasty conditions being withheld or even hidden entirely because it doesn't make money


[29-Jan-20 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`“The potential to deliver ‘one shot cures’ is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically-engineered cell therapy and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies,” analyst Salveen Richter wrote in the note to clients Tuesday. “While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”`


[29-Jan-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
2018


[29-Jan-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
even more relevant today, remember that the big oil companies knew that they were causing global warming in the 70's


[29-Jan-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
they hid the research though


[29-Jan-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
just like the big sugar companies knew they were causing obesity in the 60's


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
but hid the research and modified the conclusion to blame dietary fat


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
> this is what's going to end capitalism
I honestly thought by now there's an endless amount of people that would preach the trickle down effect and vote republican


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-irs-tried-to-crack-down-on-rich-people-using-an-abusive-tax-deduction-it-hasnt-gone-so-well

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The IRS Tried to Crack Down on Rich People Using an “Abusive” ...
The tax agency, Justice Department and Congress have all taken aim at a much-abused deduction exploited by wealthy investors. Yet the crackdown is having minimal impact, costing the Treasury billions.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/articles/20200102-IRS-easement-folo-1200x630.jpg


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
you buy a piece of land that's not yet developed for $X


[29-Jan-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
every single election I see an article saying "this year it'll be different, and young people will revolt", but nah it never changes


[29-Jan-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You then appraise it as worth $X*Y, Y > 1


[29-Jan-20 08:18 PM] jlun2#8758
I just assume by now said young people will become boomer 2.0 in 4 decades, though i hope im wrong


[29-Jan-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying you could build some shit on it so it's worth a lot


[29-Jan-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You split it into tiny little pieces


[29-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/672116650082041869/Capture_2020-01-29-08-31-121.png

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[29-Jan-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you sell them all to investors who agree not to develop the land for a total of $X*Z, 1 < Z < Y


[29-Jan-20 08:21 PM] jlun2#8758
does the land magically become more valuable despite nothing being built?


[29-Jan-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
You've now made $(Z*X)-X


[29-Jan-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The investors hav now made money too because their tax deduction from not developing is some multiple of their share of Y, what the land is allegedly worth, not some multiple of their share of Z, what they bought it for. That is, where alpha is their fraction of the land and beta is the deduction rate, they make `$alpha*beta(Y-Z)`


[29-Jan-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Y is much larger than Z.


[29-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 yes, that's the appraisal part.


[29-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You inflate the land's theoretical value so that it can be deducted for more than it's worth per area.


[29-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you parcel it out so the people making money off deducting it aren't you, making it harder to target, while you still make money from selling it for higher than you paid.


[29-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then the IRS has to target either you, who only sold land for the purpose of others to commit tax fraud, or the hundreds of wealthy people who committed tax fraud after buying the land from you.


[29-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then prominent naturalists take a look and go "actually maybe this is alright as long as it means nobody develops any land"


[29-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```does the land magically become more valuable despite nothing being built?```


[29-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
that's literally how physical art gets it's value.


[29-Jan-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
magic.


[29-Jan-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
In English, the word for that is "appraisal".


[29-Jan-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

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Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth
The president has continued to claim voter fraud was a problem in the 2016 election. A look at the facts makes clear fraud is rare, and does not happen on a scale even close to necessary to “rig” an election.
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/metatag-fallback-images/Social_placeholder_black%202.png


[29-Jan-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
> The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”


[29-Jan-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
smol


[29-Jan-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  I think posting this here is just echo chambering now, but ty


[29-Jan-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's research


[29-Jan-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
the current estimated population of the US is 329.45 million


[29-Jan-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
329,450,000 * .000003 = 988


[29-Jan-20 08:31 PM] jlun2#8758
so in the conservative's mind, > 0, so 100% chance of it occuring where they live


[29-Jan-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
obviously, not the entire population of the US can vote


[29-Jan-20 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
because children make up a bulk of that number


[29-Jan-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
I find voting fraud laughable, given how only old people vote in general, and I don't believe for a bit they know shit about how to vote fraud.


[29-Jan-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the conservative mind, all these numbers are wrong because they fear immigrants.


[29-Jan-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're just lying to them, there's a ton of immigrants around the corner doing bad things.


[29-Jan-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
or maybe that's just my experience with living with a grandparent with dementia


[29-Jan-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can SENSE IT etc. etc.


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  mostly old boomers, or young conservatives too?


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
they're always screaming about stuff allowing non-citizens to vote


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both.


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fear makes people stupid.


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
so GOP will live forever got it


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fearful people do not rationalize.


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
but they leave out the context that non-citizens are only allowed to vote in LOCAL elections


[29-Jan-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
GOP is dying because to fear immigrants you must view them as the other.


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And we hav birthright citizenship.


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Children of those immigrants eventually vote.


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm guilty of that, in the sense everyone not me is "the other"


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
ICE is deporting people who were born in the US


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile white boomers are dying out.


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
trust me they are trying to get rid of it


[29-Jan-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And young people are more liberal now.


[29-Jan-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vabeos-F8Kk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vabeos-F8Kk
Bernie Sanders: "No, I Will Not Yield!" (6/4/1992)
Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) angrily blasts the Republican and Democrat parties for lacking the political vision and will to restructure legislation and funding priorities that address serious domestic problems rather than continuing to fund defense programs at Cold War levels ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vabeos-F8Kk/hqdefault.jpg


[29-Jan-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that bernie is a fucking chad


[29-Jan-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  so are they succeeding


[29-Jan-20 08:43 PM] jlun2#8758
it would be depressing as hell if new gens become boomer 2.0/3.0


[29-Jan-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No gen will be quite like Boomers


[29-Jan-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See, Boomers benefitted immensely from a generation following them that was incredibly apathetic and politically inactive


[29-Jan-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Millennials don't have that, Gen Z is as active as they are


[29-Jan-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, there are very few differences in attitude between Millennials and Gen Z


[29-Jan-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
When Gen Z starts voting, they'll probably be voting the same ways as Millennials.


[29-Jan-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
While Gen X, the preceding one, is inactive.


[29-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just wait


[29-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There'll be a point where millennials start retiring and start bitching that pensions are down


[29-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are the main impediment right now. They're just huge in number and old.


[29-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but Boomers are the only ones asking to lower pensions


[29-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
(because they know it won't affect them anymore)


[29-Jan-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Millenials will just vote to increase pensions again once boomers are out


[29-Jan-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
The problem will mostly correct itself


[29-Jan-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
well, assuming the US doesn't become a dictatorship


[29-Jan-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
a lot of stuff depends on that


[29-Jan-20 08:57 PM] jlun2#8758
I just assume it'll become a Christian dictatorship


[29-Jan-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
right


[29-Jan-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
although I'm not sure if that'll succeed in making young people become religious, or make them say publicly they are, and actually hate it a lot


[29-Jan-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anything it will push young people away


[29-Jan-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
older people are mrope willing to go along with a facist charade, young people are far, far less willing because they are mroe connected to issues effecting them


[29-Jan-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have everything to lose


[29-Jan-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trying to implement a christian dictatorship would likely send millions of people into a mass protest


[29-Jan-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially from those of other religions


[29-Jan-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even from actual fucking christians


[29-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Young people are not religious and cannot be made to be anymore.


[29-Jan-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things are way past a tipping point.


[29-Jan-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the pope tried to crusade the world, shit would not go in his favor


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forget the fukking pope


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is about the US


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US is WAY past the point where religions can find young people


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ONLY reason the church has power is Boomers.


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as they are dead, that's *it*


[29-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Churches will lose tax exemption within a decade.


[29-Jan-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, Boomers didn't pass on the family religion


[29-Jan-20 09:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Egypt at its worse has had a murder rate half as high as America. That is all.


[29-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They adhered to it strictly and talked big about the evils of abortion, but their kids didn't listen.


[29-Jan-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav tied religion to their politics so tightly that anyone opposed to either will reject both


[29-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because now when people think religion, they think priests raping kids and the gov't giving them special exemptions.


[29-Jan-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when people think Republican ideology, they think of those priests raping kids and companies denying healthcare to women


[29-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is losing PR


[29-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Opponent#3498
Egypt also responds with lethal ammo fire into protesting crowds.


[29-Jan-20 09:14 PM] Opponent#3498
so maybe it's not a glowing story of success on that one metric.


[29-Jan-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> companies denying healthcare to women
I always thought that was weird; I thought they were pro-life; won't it make more sense to keep women healthy if they want more kids? A dead or very ill person can't make more babies.


[29-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
pro-life stop caring about people when they're out of mother's womb. Same as pedo witch hunters stop caring about people when they're over 18/21


[29-Jan-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it simply doesn't pay to care anymore.


[29-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 They're not pro *life*, they're anti poor women


[29-Jan-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pro shotgun wedding.


[29-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, it's not denying all care, just all the care that would potentially lead to a woman not being saddled with a baby


[29-Jan-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if giving birth would likely be fatal.


[29-Jan-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
> an enforced or hurried wedding, especially because the bride is pregnant.
Sounds like an easy way to get somewhat high divorce rates


[29-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, if a woman files for divorce, you use the law to prevent it


[29-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
also, she can't easily divorce while the baby's young


[29-Jan-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
the finances make it untenable


[29-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women mostly marry for financial reasons.


[29-Jan-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
she's going to get mental health problems and be suicidal


[29-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[29-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care.


[29-Jan-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to put women in the kitchen pumping out babies.


[29-Jan-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea is that they stay at home and pamper the men while launching babies out their fetus cannon


[29-Jan-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know the one thing communism did well, @jlun2?


[29-Jan-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/parnas-says-trumpworld-is-like-a-cult-and-claims-he-would-testify-77759557638

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Parnas: 'Trumpworld is like a cult, and a lot of these senators ar...
Lev Parnas attempted to attend the impeachment trial of President Trump and told reporters he would be willing to testify under oath. He claimed "Trumpworld is like a cult, and a lot of these senators are in the cult."
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[29-Jan-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/479403-phrma-spent-record-high-29-million-lobbying-congress-trump-administration

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PhRMA spent record-high $29 million on lobbying in 2019
The powerful trade group representing the prescription drug industry spent a record-high $29 million lobbying Congress in 2019, according to disclosure reports released Tuesday.
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[29-Jan-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  given the context, I assume make everyone poor so child rates skyrocket like in China?


[29-Jan-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[29-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neither Russia nor China boosted birth rates


[29-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is odd when people are poor


[29-Jan-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Normally, poorness leads to huge birth rates, but one thing Russia especially did is make people *equally* poor.


[29-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Men could no longer climb the social ladder and marry some poor attractive woman.


[29-Jan-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women were just as moderately poor


[29-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
With financial urgency torn out from under marriage, women could actually choose their husband for other reasons.


[29-Jan-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[29-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less "this guy will stop me from starving", more "this guy is cool and connected"


[29-Jan-20 09:28 PM] illumnious#7938
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[29-Jan-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women increased massively in happiness


[29-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
They had *good orgasms*.


[29-Jan-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  well a video mention something similar for North Korea, so I believe you


[29-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something unheard of in capitalist societies.


[29-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the Berlin wall fell, East Germans of course celebrated cause East Germany sukked huge donkey balls


[29-Jan-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[29-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
women lost their good orgasms as capitalism rolled in and once again things were bakk to "marry or be poor"


[29-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not like we need specifically communism for this


[29-Jan-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
we could just, you know, stop paying women less money and establish UBI so nobody starves from bad pay to begin with.


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is actually one of the reasons Republicans oppose UBI


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was tested once in the US, and they found it absolutely destroyed marriage rates among recipients.


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
I feel like that'll never happen in my life time, even if robots take over most jobs


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It can happen.


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once Boomers are out.


[29-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Young people aren't keen on marriage to begin with.


[29-Jan-20 09:32 PM] jlun2#8758
> it was tested once in the US, and they found it absolutely destroyed marriage rates among recipients.
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[29-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are crazy religious nuts


[29-Jan-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Marriage is the bakkbone of forcing women to become nothing but religious pawns.


[29-Jan-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one reason china's birthrates didnt skyrocket was due to the one child per family rule (two if you got a girl first) and their devaluing of girls. while it eventually got overturned, it was too late by the time it happened and men waaaaaay overpopulated women to the point where a boost in birth rates was minimal and there weren't enough women per men to make it a stable thing


[29-Jan-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit hard for women to have sex, make babies when the men are too busy fighting over the few women in the community amongst eachother


[29-Jan-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china has an incel problem something fierce


[29-Jan-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  I wonder does China crack down on incel groups? Sounds like an easy way to get a bunch of angry men to potentially riot in the streets if not kept down


[29-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Honahue#0656
China is on top of this


[29-Jan-20 09:56 PM] Honahue#0656
they've traditionaly been anti gay but recently theres been some pro gay commercials in China


[29-Jan-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue is much like japanese women, chinese women are increasingly going after high status men with tons of money, they;re raised to marry into wealth and have high standards impossible for impoverished men to keep up with


[29-Jan-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why japanese men are increasingly becoming shut ins who date holograms


[29-Jan-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  I'm probably interpreting this wrong, but does that mean the men there who do date only care about looks, instead of wealth?


[29-Jan-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
||If I seriously cared only about looks I browse porn tbh||


[29-Jan-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure on the male half of the equation for that.  but i imagine a lot of them go for "trophy wives" and such


[29-Jan-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of asian countries are going through a bit of a population problem because expectations are way too high and work ethic is at impossible to maintain standards


[29-Jan-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue with poverty, is while birthrates may increase, there still has to be time and energy for the people to be able to get it up, so to speak


[29-Jan-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they;re always working nonstop to exhaustion under extreme demands to just stop being poor, then they arent going to be having much sex


[29-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
people only get worked like that under capitalism, subsitence farmers do just fine making lots of babies


[29-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
partly cause the babies eventually start helping and free up time for the parents


[29-Jan-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
what do subsistence farmers even eat when waiting for harvest? grass?


[29-Jan-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably smaller non seasonal crops


[29-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Honahue#0656
they get help from the other subsitence farmers


[29-Jan-20 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue  how about the very first farmers in that area?


[29-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
the first farmer probs hunted


[29-Jan-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
if the land is good enough to farm it's good enough for other animals to live there too


[29-Jan-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rural and urban poverty also tend to have differing effects on people


[29-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480566-dershowitz-if-president-does-something-to-win-election-its-ok-unless

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Dershowitz: If President does something to win election, it's ok u...
Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz gave an extraordinarily broad view of executive power during Wednesday's impeachment proceeding, stating that virtually anything a president does to get reelected is not impeachable if the president thinks t
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dershowitzalantwo_01272020pbsnews.jpg


[29-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, so Hillary didn't do anything wrong with that dossier.


[29-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dershowtiz went on to assert that if a president believed they were acting in the public interest, their motive could not be corrupt. He noted that "every public official I know" believes their election is in the public interest.

"If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment," Dershowitz said."


[29-Jan-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well he went through improper channels through a private lawyer, so tha's already illegal


[29-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He wouldn't have impeached Nixon for Watergate, or Clinton for his perjury


[29-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They did it to act in the public interest


[29-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I suppose to actually count you would have to prove something like a president embezzling funds to their personal bank account


[29-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even embezzling to a campaign wouldn't be enough


[29-Jan-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[29-Jan-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp time to bring in the trump resort embezzlements


[29-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could give nuclear launch codes to the Chinese because you believe that it will secure your re election


[29-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't be removed, you did it for public interest


[29-Jan-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I shot a man for public interest"


[29-Jan-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I robbed this bank for public interest"


[29-Jan-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I beat up a mall full of toddlers for public interest, they were a flight risk to america"


[29-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We could have a Democratic president


[29-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who openly spies on every single GOP member and intimidates them


[29-Jan-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it would be fine


[29-Jan-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/478852-citizens-united-decision-weathers-10-years-of

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Citizens United decision weathers 10 years of controversy
A decade after the Supreme Court's landmark Citizens United decision, which ushered in the era of super PACs and unlimited donations, the fight over the contentious ruling shows no signs of easing.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/citizensunited_supremecourt_073019getty.jpg


[29-Jan-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
democrats would not hesistate to impeach such a president


[29-Jan-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
they fundamentally are not operating the way the gop does


[29-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480509-trump-to-ask-for-42m-to-fight-human-trafficking-help-victims-report

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Trump to ask for $42M to fight human trafficking, help victims: report
President Trump is expected in February to propose a $42 million budget increase to help the federal government expand its ability to fight human trafficking and offer support to its victims,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/1230leadtrumpivanka_041219getty.jpg


[29-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480489-trump-urges-lawmakers-to-vote-their-heart-on-aumf-repeal-after-white

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Trump urges lawmakers to vote their heart on war authority repeal ...
President Trump on Wednesday urged House lawmakers to "vote their HEART" on legislation to repeal the 2002 authorization for the use of military force (AUMF).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_010920_0.jpg


[29-Jan-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480460-kushner-says-calling-witnesses-would-just-take-more-time

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Kushner says calling witnesses would 'just take more time'
White House senior adviser Jared Kushner on Wednesday urged senators to bypass witnesses in President Trump's impeachment trial out of concern the process would drag on indefinitely.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kushnerjared_030218getty.jpg


[29-Jan-20 10:36 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-51272257

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Boarding schools warn against virus 'xenophobia'
Schools are told to watch out for prejudice towards Chinese pupils because of the coronavirus.
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[29-Jan-20 10:37 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
((PRIORITIES)) WTF are those?!


[29-Jan-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
don't shun them, embrace the salvation.


[29-Jan-20 10:37 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They have an epidemic. But the first thing they're worried about is ((XENOPHOBIA)) not the freaking sickness


[29-Jan-20 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
they're always worried about their image first.


[29-Jan-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
(((Jews)))


[29-Jan-20 10:38 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Gee. I wonder how the UK authorities are going to deal with a zombie apocalypse if say there ever will be one.


[29-Jan-20 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
to the ridiculous extent.


[29-Jan-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@SeraphimDawn  xenophobia is a legal liabilty for them. students dying from illness isnt


[29-Jan-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
@SeraphimDawn If you actually read the article, they're asking students not to be bigots to each other for being Chinese


[29-Jan-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
your argument doesn't make any sense


[29-Jan-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, so it's not a Chinese government request.


[29-Jan-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
then never mind


[29-Jan-20 10:43 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] that's common sense. But knowing BBC they always have to go this angle. Because they seem to treat a natural fear as ((TEH WORST POSSIBLE THING))


[29-Jan-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not common sense


[29-Jan-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
people are much more inclined to be racist if there is a problematic disease coming from China


[29-Jan-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what isn't obvious about that


[29-Jan-20 10:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But fuck! We're talking about the UK. A country with no form of free expression that would arrest anyone for expressing "disagreeable" thoughts

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[29-Jan-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
you're an idiot


[29-Jan-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
go bring up irrelevant crap somewhere else


[29-Jan-20 10:45 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Embarrassment to the Western world


[29-Jan-20 10:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Then again. I find it amusing how people react on transit whenever I sneeze


[29-Jan-20 10:46 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Considering my ethnicity


[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.euronews.com/2020/01/29/scottish-parliament-votes-to-hold-new-independence-referendum

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Scottish parliament votes to hold new independence referendum
Scotland's parliament also voted to keep the European Union flag flying outside the parliament building after Brexit.
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[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In better bews


[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
it may be true that the UK goes above and beyond reasonable in terms of restricting expression here


[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
UK already lowkey burning


[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I dunno which is more dangerous
A contagious  killer virus?
Or ((XENOPHOBIA))?


[29-Jan-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
but I literally don't understand what you want


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
are you saying that we should be as racist as possible towards people of Chinese descent?


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Hate me


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
is that helpful?


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
VIruses come and go


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
blaming people who don't have nCov and have not been in mainland China for decades, maybe even their entire lives


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
also


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
for something they didn't do


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
is that helpful in stopping the spread of the virus?


[29-Jan-20 10:50 PM] ononim#8141
UK is going to be dead soon


[29-Jan-20 10:51 PM] ononim#8141
🦀 🦀 🦀


[29-Jan-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
your argumentation strategy is totally incoherent


[29-Jan-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
all you ever do is change the subject, so I don't know why I bother anyway


[29-Jan-20 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I genuinely believe Selaphiel has ADHD or some similar condition


[29-Jan-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah so do I


[29-Jan-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't make me unable to construct valid syllogisms


[29-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Treascair#7785
I was gonna say, I have ADHD. I have friends that are legitimately diagnosed bipolar. Doesn't mean we can't have valid, coherent discussions.


[29-Jan-20 10:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim  I wonder is that what the people want? no more UK as well


[29-Jan-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-lev-parnas-capitol-hill-testify-witness-a9308546.html that key figure is Lev Parnas

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Key Trump impeachment figure unexpectedly arrives at Capitol Hill ...
Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas has shown up unexpectedly on Capitol Hill, where he is demanding to meet with senators to tell his side of the impeachment scandal story. Mr Parnas was spotted by
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/01/29/12/Lev-Parnas.jpg


[29-Jan-20 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cue Smash Bros introduction screen


[29-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I expect he's going to commit suicide by two gunshots to the head


[29-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
How tragic


[29-Jan-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6zUcZJcDM

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The Monocle Bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6zUcZJcDM
Hitler high on Meth at the 1936 Olympics
Hitler was a hardcore junkie. The nazis were given speed and other drugs to up their game in wartime. Hitler's doctor who was kinda crazy gave Hitler Cocaine, Meth, and opioids like oxycodon as prescriptions to help with his problems. Anyone who pointed out that the doctor wa...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tC6zUcZJcDM/sddefault.jpg


[29-Jan-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was then that half the senate committed suicide by 2 gunshots tot he back of the head


[29-Jan-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a shame being curious about bolton just makes people do that


[29-Jan-20 11:08 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Let's just say you're a white guy on transit. You see a person who is obviously sick coughing everywhere without covering their mouth on the train who happens to be part of a "minority" group.
You try getting away. But they labeled and even criminally charge you of being a ((RAY CEST)) for following your own instincts.
How would you feel about that?

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[29-Jan-20 11:09 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And btw.
Why is everyone treating this current virus like some for of "world ending" pandemic?


[29-Jan-20 11:09 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm sure humanity has endured countless worse pandemics in the past.


[29-Jan-20 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, so far it's nothing comparable to HIV and Influenza which kill much more people every month


[29-Jan-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/QO3dizT.mp4 bloomberg mistakes dog's face for handshake out of corner of eye

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[29-Jan-20 11:10 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
With the advancement we have today. I have no doubt they'd contain and sort this whole mess out in a month or so.


[29-Jan-20 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Better to stay calm and plan out containment


[29-Jan-20 11:10 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Watch people forget all about it in a couple months


[29-Jan-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
@SeraphimDawn this is not about _getting away_


[29-Jan-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
it's about not using slurs to refer to chinese people and preemptively judging them as being disease-carriers


[29-Jan-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't understand the distinction


[29-Jan-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I will _get away_ from anyone who is visibly sick


[29-Jan-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the school is saying, don't treat chinese students like people treated gay people with the aids virus


[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@byte[] but knowing the UK. I'm sure their SMART police won't misconstrued that as a "racist act". I'm very sure!


[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that has _nothing_ to do with what the schools are having trouble with


[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just because they have chinese ancestry, doesnt mean they chronically have the coronavirus


[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, the UK cops are nuts, no they're not going to arrest you for avoiding someone who is visibly contagious


[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
@prism stryder(intexda) what if I say I do

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[29-Jan-20 11:13 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
?


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
you are performing mental gymnastics to construct a socially impossible situation


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that you chronically have the coronavirus?


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then i;d say you dont know jack shit about an airborne virus that has nothing to do with genetics


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
if you have a contagious disease I have no qualms avoiding you


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
no matter who you happen to be


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm Chingchongnese


[29-Jan-20 11:14 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
No really


[29-Jan-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt make the airborne non genetic virus any less airborne and non genetic


[29-Jan-20 11:16 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I'm genetically predisposed to have corovirus


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I belong with my people


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that makes no sense because it still isnt hereditary


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
:bigbrain:


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus is native to SNAKES


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not Chinese people


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Yes it is.
And improud it it!


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are not a snake.

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[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We are snakes


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, racism towards the Chinese is really really common when they travel.


[29-Jan-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact that you may stick your dick in a snake and jack off to snake hentai doesn't make you a snake

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[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There's a reason why we're called the "Descendants of Dragons"


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dragons werent snakes


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sel


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck are you talking about now


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
According to the Bible. They are


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Focus on the topic


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's because of a mix of culture and geopolitics, not helped by China often using its leverage over its citizens to make them harass other countries for not following China's rules.


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where in the bible does it say snakes are dragons?


[29-Jan-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, a lot of Chinese people until very recently were poor farmers


[29-Jan-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
who gives a shit about the bible? we're talking about acceptable social behavior


[29-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
we're talking people who *aren't aware* of the existence of manners.


[29-Jan-20 11:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Manners are extinct


[29-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so they go to places like Japan and they hav no clue they're acting wrong, or don't care


[29-Jan-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The result is a lot of anger


[29-Jan-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
pile on top of that random Chinese people acting as gov't pawns for money/social reasons and it's a mess


[29-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the average American tourist is more respectful than the average Chinese one


[29-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
prejudice abounds


[29-Jan-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Chinese tourists outside of Asia are much easier to differentiate.


[29-Jan-20 11:22 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I've heard there are places that literally single out Chinese tourist banning then from certain attractions for that reason


[29-Jan-20 11:23 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They have a tendency to be insensitive to other cultures and vandalize sacred sites


[29-Jan-20 11:23 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
You remember what some imbeciles Chinese tourists did to some ancient Egyptian ruins right?


[29-Jan-20 11:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And nlmore recently, the Hill of Crosses in Lithuatnia where some Chinese tourist "wrote" on one of the crosses there


[29-Jan-20 11:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Also. General obnoxiousness is a thing especially among them


[29-Jan-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shitting on beaches in broad daylight


[29-Jan-20 11:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
((MANNERS)) they could be told million times of that


[29-Jan-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Can you stop using double parens


[29-Jan-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
It's really not helping your cases any


[29-Jan-20 11:32 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Don't get me wrong.
I am proud of my heritage. Am I mean VERY proud. But I do have a love hate relationship with my kinsmen as there are definately some irksome fundemental quirks I believe needs changing in my culture.


[29-Jan-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trumps-lawyers-gave-thousands-to-mitch-mcconnell-lindsey-graham-and-ted-cruz-before-the-impeachment-trial-began/

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Trump’s lawyers gave thousands to Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graha...
President Trump’s legal team made numerous campaign contributions to Republican senators overseeing the impeachment trial. Former independent counsels Ken Starr and Robert Ray, who both investigated former President Bill Clinton ahead of his impeachment, contributed thousan...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/graham-mcconnell-1000x600.jpg


[29-Jan-20 11:53 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
((GOOBALISM))


[29-Jan-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/john-bolton-likes-tweet-saying-trump-should-fire-the-moron-who-hired-john-bolton

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Matt Naham
https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/john-bolton-likes-tweet-saying-trump-should-fire-the-moron-who-hired-john-bolton
John Bolton Likes Tweet Saying Trump Should ‘Fire the Moron Who ...
Republican hawk John Bolton, formerly President Donald Trump's handpicked National Security Advisor, liked a tweet saying Trump should fire the moron who hired John Bolton.
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[29-Jan-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop using those.


[29-Jan-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also lel


[30-Jan-20 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
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[30-Jan-20 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
bruh


[30-Jan-20 01:07 AM] ononim#8141
how christians can be so cucked


[30-Jan-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ben-shapiro-warns-gop-blocking-witnesses

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[30-Jan-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
When Benchy Boi has a point


[30-Jan-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much just "guys you need to be less obvious"


[30-Jan-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Congrats on being self aware https://i.redd.it/2sv7561ford41.jpg

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[30-Jan-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see the GOP has moved fully into just attacking Biden


[30-Jan-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/29/trump-black-voters-cash-giveaways-108072

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Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters
Organizers have begun holding events in black communities where they lavish praise on the president while handing out thousands of dollars in giveaways.
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[30-Jan-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uuuuuuh


[30-Jan-20 02:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Cash in exchange for votes? Cash in exchange for not voting?


[30-Jan-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can imagine these people lacing the bills with some drug that'll show up in drug tests

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[30-Jan-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Take the cash, donate it to Bernie :dab:


[30-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
>how christians can be so cucked
>Oxford


[30-Jan-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the answer's built into the question


[30-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
```lacing the bills with some drug that'll show up in drug tests```


[30-Jan-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
too complicated


[30-Jan-20 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
and too subtle. Nothing so far from 2016 that I've seen of US politics can be called subtle in any way


[30-Jan-20 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
plus that's not trivial technically. Meaning, when, not if, it comes to light it gonna backfire _hard_ as it would be easy to track.


[30-Jan-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so this is simply what we experienced in the 90ies


[30-Jan-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
people giving away buckwheat and frozen chicken as a 'election campaign move'


[30-Jan-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
the slow drip of misinformation targeted towards clinton's campaign was so effective that it made even many democrats decide she was too unelectable


[30-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
which she was.


[30-Jan-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I disagree


[30-Jan-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I still have no idea why a figure this controversial became a frontrunner.


[30-Jan-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
having political baggage ≠ unelectable


[30-Jan-20 03:00 AM] Opponent#3498
I realised that while I could think of everything bad about Trump pretty much off the top of my head, with her only ties to Russia come to mind, alleged or real I'm still not sure. I suppose I don't know enough to discuss this. Still, though, it's hard to believe she was the best they could do in 2016.


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
she wasn't the best we could do


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the best we could do was almost certainly Sanders


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
however, that fell through due to the superdelegate process


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary was the candidate the South wanted.


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates alone couldn't make Sanders win.


[30-Jan-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South demanded her racism.


[30-Jan-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want someone who will talk about "superpredators" on live TV and proceed to declare a state of emergency with armed thugs sweeping up blakk people for "random" searches.


[30-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See also: Klobuchar


[30-Jan-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We've got to make sure she doesn't evolve into Klobucharizard


[30-Jan-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Jan-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Brexit deal approved in EU parliament


[30-Jan-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
UK leaves the EU at midnight CET on Jan 31st


[30-Jan-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
what's the image?


[30-Jan-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would the people voting to leave ever regret it, or nah


[30-Jan-20 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe they're finally made a decision to leave the EU 12 years later


[30-Jan-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent vote screen from MEP


[30-Jan-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
621/49


[30-Jan-20 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
well I assume they're ratifying a decision already made


[30-Jan-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
right


[30-Jan-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well the right-wing Americans in the political chat I just reposted this to seem to be happy about it


[30-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[30-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they want everyone isolated, vulnerable, exploitable.


[30-Jan-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want big walls that only white men cross.


[30-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and a spiteful part of me agrees that UK could do with some being vulnerable, exploitable and isolated for a change.


[30-Jan-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of Brexit is to recreate walls, utterly fukking over Britain's research capabilities and economy as long as it also fukks over brown people.


[30-Jan-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
scotland and NI are going to break off


[30-Jan-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
can't see any way in which they won't


[30-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
NI's path to staying involves England making sure it never forms a proper gov't


[30-Jan-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
hell scotland voted today that they were going to keep flying the EU flag


[30-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the English gov't givs no shits


[30-Jan-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not the same conditions as when Scotland voted


[30-Jan-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boris may very well do illegal shit to threaten it.


[30-Jan-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They approved another referendum didn't they


[30-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480618-john-roberts-blocks-rand-pauls-question-on-whistleblower

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John Roberts blocks Rand Paul's question on whistleblower
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[30-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember what I said would happen, @Nebbie


[30-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not specifically.


[30-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That Roberts would benchslap all of the shenanigans


[30-Jan-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just thought it would be once witnesses were called if that happened


[30-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He named the alleged whistleblower.


[30-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it's iffy.


[30-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And put it in a question that Roberts would read, but Roberts refused.


[30-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts is the guy who cares about the perception of SCOTUS


[30-Jan-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so yes he has a horse in the race of not being an obvious shill


[30-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
but nothing he does is end-all-be-all


[30-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[30-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
if 51 Republicans say to name the whistleblower, he has to do it.


[30-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pence cannot break ties for this btw.


[30-Jan-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hope is that once officially named he dies of suicide from two bullets to back of the head right


[30-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are a threat to our country, at this stage.


[30-Jan-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've gone off the deep end.


[30-Jan-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Are you implying they weren't decades ago?


[30-Jan-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
It's always been _bad_ just never _overt_


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It hasn't always been *this* bad.


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
20 years ago this was unthinkable.


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
20 years ago, Republicans disrespected the process and would finagle, but they wouldn't outright break the law or their oaths.


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few things changed


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Newt Gingrich made Republicans stop talking to Democrats


[30-Jan-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
the number of child sex rings GOP pedos have had their dicks caught in has been pretty fucking high


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, conservatives fled the Democratic party because it was becoming too okay with civil rights


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember Larry Craig


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Southern Strategy took a long time to really pay off.


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if he ever came out of the closet


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
but at the same time you said people wanted Hillary's racism.


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[30-Jan-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't done fleeing


[30-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats became 50% liberal *last year*


[30-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why people will still vote Biden over Bernie


[30-Jan-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is that Republicans hav basically no liberals period, they're just conservatives.


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of both parties being a mix, it's very much just one party's liberal, one's conservative


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives are mostly bad to hav, altho they hav a few positive qualities to hav around


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
so they cannot agree on anything ever, ssssssooo...


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
a two-party concept taking to it's logical conclusion.


[30-Jan-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Southern Strategy.


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The GOP strategy now is to ignore the Southern Strategy ever happened


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats decided to be pro-civil rights, so just make Republicans appeal to racists.


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
What can possibly go wrong.


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just focus on the Revolution of 1994 where conveniently, a bunch of old Democrats that were against civil rights became Republicans


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For no reason at all


[30-Jan-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, 20 years ago, Republicans would've scoffed at Trump's trade policies etc.


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'd be saying the free market can't be impeded like this


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd also if anyone was super openly racist start not talking to that guy to try to reduce the PR bakklash.


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
(even tho they'd be using racist dogwhistles all the time)


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's different now.


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump forced out critics


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
New Republicans are elected with his blessing pretty much only.


[30-Jan-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's kinda how I imagined it was in like '17


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Existing Republicans hav been bought out or hav gotten old and prone to being manipulated.


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
by that time it has already changed.


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the Republicans who retired did so because they challenged Trump.


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> gotten old and prone to being manipulated
I thought they were always old


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 2016, Republicans were nearly as racist, and were starting to be open about it, but they weren't personally loyal to Trump


[30-Jan-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The question is, what will the party do in 2024 regardless of this year's election


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick Jr. or Eric?


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 no, Senators being like 80 is a new thing


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because elections got waaaay less competitive over the 20th century.


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
98% reelection rate.


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers just plain never got replaced by Gen X in politics


[30-Jan-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll be replaced by Millennials instead.


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
For all I know they're immortal.


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately some of the ones that died were the good ones


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
like McCain


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was in tune with Republicans in the early 2000s


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted to do something about Global Warming.


[30-Jan-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
let me elaborate: by the time they start dying in mass, healthcare improves, then they get a decade more. then a decade later the same occurs.


[30-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wasn't a big champion of civil rights, but he didn't want open racism either.


[30-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got old. He got brain cancer. He died.


[30-Jan-20 03:50 AM] jlun2#8758
and the next thing you know millenials are at their 80s and the youngest (and richest) boomers are still clinging on


[30-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was the crucial vote that stopped them from destroying the ACA.


[30-Jan-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Him dying before McConnell is a damn shame.


[30-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/cartoons/images/2020/01/24/gary_varvel_gary_varvel_for_jan_24_2020_5_.jpg

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[30-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cursed Boomer comic


[30-Jan-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
> Make America Pro-life again
$300 insulin :nut:


[30-Jan-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't a lot of Christian sects believe babies go to purgatory?


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, cause original sin.


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Catholics at least


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ancient theology says that we are all sinners from birth.


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they weren't baptised


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That we inherit the sin of Adam and Eve


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and should feel bad for being born.


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just Allegheri or do some also believe that people born before Christ who were virtuous are there too


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Plato etc


[30-Jan-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think most believe that.


[30-Jan-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All in limbo


[30-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Related


[30-Jan-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480605-conservative-pastor-says-jesus-would-have-beat-the-crap-out-of

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[30-Jan-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> Jesus would have beat the crap
:ponythinking:


[30-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Citing the money changers story as an example of Jesus not being afraid of hurting people


[30-Jan-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I never understood this, I thought that was supposed to show the humanity of Jesus, that he was partially human


[30-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought that was the point of all of his moments of rage


[30-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives, Its


[30-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will twist anything to support hurting people.


[30-Jan-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes Jesus being the big figure of the religion they flokk to ironic.


[30-Jan-20 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume american christains believe Jesus was a fighter


[30-Jan-20 03:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://cosmonaut.blog/2020/01/24/radio-free-cairo/

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[30-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jesus' ideology is incredibly liberal.


[30-Jan-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
His most attested quote was that it is easier for a camel to fit thru the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven.


[30-Jan-20 03:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  and somehow in America that quote is twisted into prosperity gospel. how does that contradiction even work


[30-Jan-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for beating up Bolton, *Pericope Adulterae*.


[30-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
why didn't they just stick to Old Testament. It had a concept of Apocalypse I could spend my entire life waiting for with glee.


[30-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
admittedly, that's where the good things about it ended


[30-Jan-20 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
but still.


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
OT is very, very conservative.


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A socialist Jew who was crucified and betrayed by the people he trusted


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But enough about Bernie


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is about vengeance and destroying sinners and executing people etc.


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, you know about Pericope Adulterae?


[30-Jan-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really just shatters any conservative argument on this stuff.


[30-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The single-phrase form is "let he is without sin cast the first stone"


[30-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the longer story is basically some rabbis came to Jesus and were like "hey this is a prostitute, shouldn't we fukkin' murder her, dude? ARE YOU A HERETIC?"


[30-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
Ha.


[30-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if anyone has ever made that parralel Its


[30-Jan-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
To which he wrote something and told them the above quote and they all left in silence.


[30-Jan-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Evangelicals have yet to understand how their faith doesn't benefit from entanglement with the state


[30-Jan-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It only makes both things worse.


[30-Jan-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now the fun part is, it doesn't say what he wrote, but based on context, clues point to him writing down exactly what each rabbi was guilty of and should be stoned for according to their own law.


[30-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it was a thing to write the names of the accused and the crimes they committed in the sand, and it's heavily implied he did not write the woman's name.


[30-Jan-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
> they all left in silence.
nowadays if they happened they just scream FAKE NEWS


[30-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well here's the thing


[30-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
what Jesus is implied to hav done


[30-Jan-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
is exactly what Bolton is doing now.


[30-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Showing that he has the dirty laundry of the people who are ready to cast stones.


[30-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
To shame them into bakking the fukk off from their bullshit.


[30-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
OG sin isn't even OG Christianity it's Nicean creed so like 400 years after


[30-Jan-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...the evangelical guy is literally as wrong as wrong gets.


[30-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Jesus was alive today he'd be threatening to testify to the Senate about what the Trump administration did.


[30-Jan-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not beating up the guy who is doing such.


[30-Jan-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I'm sure you know some conservative religious people whose minds are in need of blowing etc.


[30-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Calling Jesus a socialist does that enough


[30-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but this is much more fun.


[30-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll probably hav no clue where you're going with it until the end.


[30-Jan-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Bolton is basically modern day Jesus" will just make them cry.


[30-Jan-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
cry fake news


[30-Jan-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
since that seems to be what Trump at least loves to do


[30-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mere information is not something that would violate the campaign finance laws," Philbin said. "And if there is credible information of wrongdoing by someone who is running for a public office, it's not campaign interference for credible information to be brought to light if it's credible information."

"So I think the idea that any information that happens to come from overseas is necessarily campaign interference is a mistake," he added, calling it a "non-sequitur."


[30-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I were Biden or Bernie I would be paying Iran for dirt on Trump.


[30-Jan-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least implying I want it.


[30-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, you fail to get that liberals play by the rules, and conservatives do not.


[30-Jan-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden might do it, but Bernie never would.


[30-Jan-20 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a highly optimistic outlook on liberals tbh. At best it's 'redefine the rules to suit their needs' vs 'bypass the rules'


[30-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They only redefine the rules in terms of actually being in power to write them, they do not simply redefine the written rules for themselves.


[30-Jan-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they actually care what's written down.


[30-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big, big difference.


[30-Jan-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The rules have changed, and I think liberals would argue that


[30-Jan-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if Biden got elected and we found out a borderline Russia collusion thing happened


[30-Jan-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think a _lot_ of Dems would say "Well Trump made it okay so"


[30-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The written rules still say it's not okay.


[30-Jan-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals don't think the rules are different just because conservatives ignore what's written.


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Midknight#9798
I agree, but there *is* a human tendency to go that route that one has to watch out for


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of Democrats would censure or impeach a Democratic president who breaks the rules.


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the Clinton impeachment.


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So imagine this


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden basically colludes with Iran, wins election


[30-Jan-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's found out


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Assume the Senate and House are both Democratic majorities


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EXACT SENATORS


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
who went hard after Bill


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
made EXACTLY OPPOSITE ARGUMENTS about Trump


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the Republican side


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, on the Democratic side


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Midknight#9798
Yes, and that's what's so disgusting about what Trump has done to this country


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The same senators made essentially the same arguments


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not just Trump


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is a conservative/liberal thing


[30-Jan-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't get it, Its


[30-Jan-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republicans would impeach a President Biden in a heartbeat if he phoned up Iran to talk about quid pro quo


[30-Jan-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats would be split, with many supporting it


[30-Jan-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would be a very, very narrow acquittal at best.


[30-Jan-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
if that was against Trump?


[30-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
that's... I kinda have to repeat myself, highly optimistic.


[30-Jan-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
there are a great many arguments for ignoring and defending it 'for the greater good' and whatnot, means justifying the noble cause, along with all the self-serving ones.


[30-Jan-20 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
now if this was against... Hillary. Or some moderate Republican. And it was 2016. Yeah, sure.


[30-Jan-20 04:37 AM] Opponent#3498
in 2020 though? The rules have changed a bit too much for this.


[30-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow, Dershowitz is amazing


[30-Jan-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"If you don't think you can do something, don't even try"


[30-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump is popular, so he's immune"


[30-Jan-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
amazing


[30-Jan-20 04:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  since you asked about 2024 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/republicans-are-already-picking-their-favorite-candidates-for-the-2024-election-more-trumps-2020-01-06

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Republicans pick favorite candidates for 2024 election: more Trumps
According to a SurveyMonkey poll, Republican voters chose President Trump’s kids as two of the top for picks for 2024.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-HX775_Ivanka_ZG_20200104143125.jpg


[30-Jan-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The wet dream is to have Ivanka as the first female president


[30-Jan-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Nikki Haley


[30-Jan-20 08:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how about we dont turn america into a north korean style dynasty


[30-Jan-20 08:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-of-migrant-children-were-sexually-abused-in-u-s-custody-hhs-docs-say/

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Thousands of migrant children were sexually abused in U.S. custody...
According to documents obtained by Rep. Ted Deutch's office, more than 4,500 sexual abuse complaints were reported over the past four years
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[30-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking pages 144-146 http://traditional-knowledge.ca/english/pdf/Cosmology-And-Shamanism-E.pdf


[30-Jan-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anytime someone asks you to respect everyone's religion.


[30-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not as good as the Innu Fart Man stuff, but close, and from a very closely related culture.


[30-Jan-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So with a bit of word trikkery, you can probably lump the two together and well, it's kind of like Missouri vs. Kansas culture, they'd probably accept the lumping.


[30-Jan-20 09:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/480516-top-house-foreign-affairs-democrat-says-bolton-urged-him-in-september-to-look

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House Foreign Affairs chairman says Bolton urged him in September ...
The House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman said Wednesday that John Bolton first told his panel in September to examine the ouster of former U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/engelelliot_010918gn3_lead.jpg


[30-Jan-20 11:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-29/health-records-company-pushed-opioids-to-doctors-in-secret-deal


[30-Jan-20 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Jan-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[30-Jan-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
opioids are unnecessary.


[30-Jan-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not improve pain relief beyond basic over the counter pain relievers in the less powerful range.


[30-Jan-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the more powerful range, we've had plenty of options, but especially morphine, for years.


[30-Jan-20 11:21 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And what now? Anyone kept responsible for this? nah.


[30-Jan-20 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably gonna be lawsuits


[30-Jan-20 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480620-mcconnell-romney-vie-for-influence-over-trumps-trial

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McConnell, Romney vie for influence over Trump's trial
The fight over calling additional witnesses at President Trump's impeachment trial has turned into a struggle for influence between Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/romneymitt_mcconnellmitch_012920getty_1.jpg


[30-Jan-20 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480598-sessions-attacks-bolton-for-act-of-disloyalty

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Sessions attacks Bolton for 'act of disloyalty'
Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions criticized former White House national security adviser John Bolton in a series of tweets for reportedly writing in his upcoming memoir that President Trump allegedly told him he wanted to condition milit
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-sessions_110719getty.jpg


[30-Jan-20 12:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/480553-14-states-sue-epa-over-chemical-safety-rule-rollback

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14 states sue EPA over chemical safety regulations rollback
Attorneys general from 14 states filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) over its rollback of Obama-era chemical plant safety regulations.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/epa_chemicals.jpg


[30-Jan-20 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1222643635994292224

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https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1222643635994292224
the media blackout on the French strikes is wild
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[30-Jan-20 02:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51307868

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High winds blow over part of Trump's border wall
The fence is part of the US president's attempt to improve the barrier along the US-Mexico border.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/0E9C/production/_110704730_059572329-1.jpg


[30-Jan-20 02:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume it's one of the sections currently in construction. Shitty as it might be, it's not that shitty I would imagine.


[30-Jan-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
unless the contractors share the business philosophy with the guy, of course.


[30-Jan-20 02:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony from reddit:


[30-Jan-20 02:54 PM] byte[]#2610
"the only thing with Trump’s name on it that couldn’t dodge a draft"

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[30-Jan-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Jan-20 03:16 PM] Opponent#3498
that's suprising.


[30-Jan-20 03:40 PM] byte[]#2610
nostradumbass https://www.metroweekly.com/2020/01/white-house-approved-pundit-says-coronavirus-will-purge-gay-people/

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Rhuaridh Marr
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White House-approved pundit says coronavirus will "purge" gay peop...
TruNews' Rick Wiles has a history of spreading racist, antisemitic, and homophobic conspiracy theories
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[30-Jan-20 03:46 PM] byte[]#2610
cleanup on aisle 3 https://i.redd.it/qhzh7pgf9td41.jpg

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[30-Jan-20 04:00 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I just assume by now Christians believe every natural disaster and outbreak only targets people they hate.
@prism stryder(intexda) 
> probably gonna be lawsuits
Let me guess. the pharma company wins because lawyers are crooks


[30-Jan-20 04:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1222863896882679808

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Aaron Rupar (@atrupar)
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1222863896882679808
Secretary Wilbur Ross says coronavirus will be good for [checks notes] American jobs: "I think it will help to accelerate the return of jobs to North America." https://t.co/Y4SbDIcTi4
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Twitter


[30-Jan-20 04:36 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-Jan-20 04:39 PM] Opponent#3498
well someone's having fun.


[30-Jan-20 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Macron is an evil bastard


[30-Jan-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@jlun2 :shrugpony:


[30-Jan-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/morning-report/480631-the-hills-morning-report

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The Hill's Morning Report - Nearing witness vote, GOP rushes to ac...
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[30-Jan-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480650-trump-administration-to-allow-medicaid-block-grants

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Trump administration to allow Medicaid block grants
States will have the ability to convert part of their Medicaid funding into a block grant under a new Trump administration program announced Thursday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/vermaseema_031417getty_lead.jpg


[30-Jan-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/y9hmxcsnttd41.jpg

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[30-Jan-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[30-Jan-20 06:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/

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Zoe Drewett
https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/28/french-firefighters-set-alight-start-fighting-police-12139804/
French firefighters set themselves alight and start fighting again...
Firefighters are calling for better pay and working conditions and greater respect for their profession.
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[30-Jan-20 06:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
FRENCH FIREMEN T-POSE TO ASSERT DOMINANCE AND THEN GO FURTHER


[30-Jan-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141

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[30-Jan-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
```Built in 1994/95, the three blocks on Dudziarska street were designed as a temporary housing for people evicted out of social projects, and for those otherwise unable to secure living due to the income instability. The idea behind the Dudziarska project was to design the whole neighbourhood in a manner supporting the notion to escape poverty; the virtual inaccessibility of Dudziarska street, located on the literal other side of tracks behind the huge railway depot in the middle of nowhere was thought about as a stimulus to motivate tenants to improve their material situation as quickly as possible, and move out of the estate. In addition, to ensure order, some of the apartments were allocated to the quarters for police employees who were supposed to watch the neighbourhood after hours.```


[30-Jan-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
```An isolated location, requiring illegal crossing of railway tracks or traveling around a rarely-circuiting bus (the line was launched only in 2007, after many years of district council efforts), together with the character of the estate in effect caused total ghettoisation, thus effectively preventing residents from any attempt to get out of the situation causing their relocation, and stigmatising them. The temporary nature of the buildings, designed without central heating, requires additional heating with electric heaters, which creates a spiral of indebtedness to the electricity supplier – the cost of heating per month can equal the cost of rent for a room in the city centre, if not even exceed it. As part of social and cultural activities for the residents of the project, cultural activists organised an event of painting the walls with works of contemporary painting, with the Black Square of Kazimierz Malewicz on the wall facing the street in all three buildings. The inhabitants perceived this action as an additional stigmatisation.```


[30-Jan-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/OKva7dVgzGg

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Harvard University
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Are Koreans Human? | Min Jin Lee || Radcliffe Institute
The author Min Jin Lee RI ’19 asks, “Who are the modern Koreans, and what do they care about?” To answer this enormously complex question, Lee explores the will of Koreans to survive and flourish as global citizens, their enduring faith in education, and the costs of su...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OKva7dVgzGg/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Jan-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually sent to me by a Korean


[30-Jan-20 07:17 PM] Opponent#3498
not really, if their perfomance in video games is anything to go by.


[30-Jan-20 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rand Paul tried to make Justice Roberts announce the (alleged) whistleblower's name, again


[30-Jan-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How does knowing the name matter at all when we have Bolton


[30-Jan-20 07:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/politics/rand-paul-whistleblower-senate-impeachment-trial/index.html

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Paul frustrated after Roberts rejects his whistleblower question i...
Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky expressed frustration with Republican leadership during the Senate impeachment trial Wednesday night after it was made clear Chief Justice John Roberts would not read his question that named the alleged Ukraine whistleblower, sources with knowledge ...
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[30-Jan-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Smear


[30-Jan-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"The guy isn't a card carry GOP voter, so he was biased and made it all up and it was all a demonrat plot"


[30-Jan-20 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mueller was that and they still did it


[30-Jan-20 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/30/document-shows-bernie-sanders-team-preparing-dozens-potential-executive-orders/


[30-Jan-20 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
> Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is considering dozens of executive orders he could unilaterally enact on a wide range of domestic policy issues if elected president, including immigration, the environment and prescription drugs, according to two people familiar with the campaign’s planning and an internal document reviewed by The Washington Post.


[30-Jan-20 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
> Aides have presented Sanders with a list of possible executive actions, including more than a dozen options for reversing President Trump’s immigration policy, such as lifting the cap on the number of refugees accepted into the United States and immediately halting border wall construction. Another option is the reinstatement of an Obama-era program that granted legal status to undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children.
> 
> The list of potential executive orders includes unilaterally allowing the United States to import prescription drugs from Canada, directing the Justice Department to legalize marijuana, and declaring climate change a national emergency while banning the exportation of crude oil. Other options cited in the document include canceling federal contracts for firms paying workers less than $15 an hour and reversing federal rules blocking U.S. funding to organizations that provide abortion counseling.


[30-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
> canceling federal contracts for firms paying workers less than $15 an hour


[30-Jan-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
spicy


[30-Jan-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
this is the future that trump has caused though


[30-Jan-20 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/480720-dershowitz-i-never-said-president-could-do-anything-to-get-reelected

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Dershowitz: I never said a president could do anything to get reel...
Media pundits and partisan politicians are deliberately distorting the argument I made during the Senate's impeachment trial.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald4_110119getty.jpg


[30-Jan-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He literally did


[30-Jan-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I watched live


[30-Jan-20 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[30-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of those EOs aren't cause of Trump.


[30-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The immigration stuff is; that'd be where he'd be stepping over the law a bit.


[30-Jan-20 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/480721-bloomberg-surges-past-warren-into-third-place-in-new-national-poll

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Bloomberg surges past Warren into third place in new national poll
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg surged past Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) in the latest nationwide Hill-HarrisX poll, putting him in third place in the field of Democratic presidential candidates.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bloombergmike_012220gn3_lead.jpg


[30-Jan-20 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480733-new-bloomberg-ad-blitz-to-run-in-27-states

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New Bloomberg ad blitz to run in 27 states
Michael Bloomberg’s presidential campaign will go up with three new television ads in 27 states this week, as the former New York City Mayor continues an unprecedented advertising blitz that has helped propel him into double digits in some nationa
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bloomberg_mike.jpg


[30-Jan-20 08:39 PM] ononim#8141
KEK


[30-Jan-20 08:40 PM] ononim#8141
🐍


[30-Jan-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Turns out, yes, you CAN buy an election


[30-Jan-20 08:41 PM] ononim#8141
based Bloomberg sucking out Biden's neolib vote


[30-Jan-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[30-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, hillary already bought the 2016 primary


[30-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
so it is possible to buy an election


[30-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
and hillary bought it in an even more direct way than bloomberg


[30-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
bloomberg's just advertising himself everywhere


[30-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
hillary bought out the DNC's debts


[30-Jan-20 08:51 PM] illumnious#7938
I always seen that guy’s commercials


[30-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
I don't


[30-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
because I don't watch television lol


[30-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
and I don't see commercials online because I use an ad blocker


[30-Jan-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
well, except derpi, I disabled it for derpi


[30-Jan-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
but derpi has nice ads


[30-Jan-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
not malicious blinding loud shit


[30-Jan-20 08:53 PM] illumnious#7938
I can’t stand those stopid ass ads


[30-Jan-20 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Except for ads like Walmart, Wendy’s and progressive


[30-Jan-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjw8ww/bernie-sanders-is-the-first-candidate-to-call-for-ban-on-facial-recognition

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Bernie Sanders Is the First Candidate to Call for Ban on Facial Re...
The Democratic candidate for president published a criminal justice overhaul plan on Sunday which called, among other things, for a ban on the government use of facial recognition.
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[30-Jan-20 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938
'Nonsense...preposterous...absurd': Critics lecture Prof. Dershowitz about trial remarks https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/nonsense-preposterous-absurd-critics-lecture-prof-dershowitz-about-trial-remarks-n1126521

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'Nonsense...preposterous...absurd': Critics lecture Prof. Dershowi...
The Harvard academic said in a tweetstorm that his argument in defense of Trump was being willfully distorted.
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[30-Jan-20 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
What’s wrong with him and facial recognition


[30-Jan-20 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
And I meant Bernie


[30-Jan-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
It's an orwellian invasion of privacy


[30-Jan-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It just also happens that regional deployments have resulted in the technology being used to target black people, which is fuckin fantastic


[30-Jan-20 09:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Hmm


[30-Jan-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given how much china uses it for, i would say, maybe we don't let america fall that far


[30-Jan-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last thing america needs is a social credit system based on facial recognition technology


[30-Jan-20 09:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Good point


[30-Jan-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would also only take one president, or politician to hide them in the corner of poll rooms and tell them who you voted for


[30-Jan-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voting is supposed to be anonymous outside of the broad registry form


[30-Jan-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/480691-house-votes-to-rein-in-trumps-military-authority

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House votes to rein in Trump's military authority
The House on Thursday voted to repeal the 2002 authorization for the use of military force (AUMF), which the Trump administration has used to justify its controversial drone strike that killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump.donald.tank_.military.0320.png


[30-Jan-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/480654-house-approves-measure-blocking-funding-for-war-with-iran

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House approves measure blocking funding for war with Iran
The House has approved a bill to block funding for military action against Iran.In a largely party-line vote of 228-175, the House on Thursday passed the No War Against Iran Act offered by Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/iran_protests_12062019_1.jpg


[30-Jan-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eat it Trump


[30-Jan-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/480730-doj-tells-court-that-congress-cant-sue-to-enforce-subpoenas

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DOJ tells court that Congress can't sue to enforce subpoenas
The Trump administration told a federal judge on Thursday that Congress cannot sue the executive branch, attempting to fight off a House committee's subpoena for documents related to aborted efforts to add a citizenship question to the
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/barrwilliam_rosswilbur_071719gn_lead.jpg


[30-Jan-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure they can, you;re not a judicial branch employee


[30-Jan-20 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh lad


[30-Jan-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/480683-illinois-virginia-nevada-sue-demanding-ratification-of-equal-rights

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States sue to demand ratification of Equal Rights Amendment
The attorneys general of Illinois, Virginia and Nevada filed a lawsuit Thursday demanding the ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_vaera_012720istock.jpg


[30-Jan-20 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480612-trump-criticizes-house-dems-over-war-powers-bill-after-telling

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Trump criticizes House Democrats over war powers bill after tellin...
President Trump criticized House Democrats on Wednesday over an impending vote on legislation to repeal the 2002 authorization for the use of military force (AUMF), claiming Democrats “want to make it harder for President
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_012320getty.jpg


[30-Jan-20 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"When I said vote your heart, I meant vote my heart! You do nothing never trumpers!"


[30-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"With Votes in the House tomorrow, Democrats want to make it harder for Presidents to defend America"


[30-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Yes."


[30-Jan-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's Congress' job


[30-Jan-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The last time trump "defended america" he blew up an airport over 1 guy and almost started international war... yes, i think thye have the right to stop you from "defending america"


[30-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Pat Philbin, a member of Trump's legal team, argued that there was "loose talk" on the July 25th phone call but that Trump "didn't ask President Zelensky specifically for an investigation."   

 

He added that it could be appropriate for a president to ask a foreign government to investigate a U.S. citizen if the individual had potentially violated that country's law and there was a "national interest" in the case. "


[30-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hunter Biden didn't violate any law.


[30-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To my knowledge


[30-Jan-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if joe did, it likely had nothing to do with hunter


[30-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither did Joe if he did try to get Shokin fired


[30-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The EU and a bipartisan group wanted Shokin fired


[30-Jan-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Loose talk"


[30-Jan-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course joe is going to brag about this accomplishment it;s the one things short of "having a black friend that is also president" that he;s managed to acheive


[30-Jan-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he worked fully with the EU and several other groups to get shokin fired because shokin was corrupt as shit


[30-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing I didn't get


[30-Jan-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shokin was fired because he wasn't investigating Burisma


[30-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would Biden want him fired if he wanted to protect Hunter?


[30-Jan-20 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what Shokin wasn't doing right


[30-Jan-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Its


[30-Jan-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
That would be using facts and logic


[30-Jan-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
If you're a republican, that's not allowed


[30-Jan-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
You must use feelings only


[30-Jan-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
any republican who uses facts and logic must be outed as a traitor immediately and placed in the shame chair for firing reasons


[30-Jan-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But my understanding is right isn't it?


[30-Jan-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shokin had nothing to do with hunter, yes


[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But he wasn't investigating Burisma and that was a problem wasn't it


[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden had everything to lose by getting Shokin fired


[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Rick Wilson - "Giant Airborne Stash" https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-boltons-calling-the-shots-now-and-trump-and-mitch-mcconnell-are-shitting-bricks

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John Bolton’s Calling the Shots Now, and Trump and McConnell Are...
The trial may still end with the president’s acquittal, but that verdict would come back to haunt Republicans in November.
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[30-Jan-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden wanting Shokin fired is completely counter to a theoretical corupt interest in preventing prosecution.


[30-Jan-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Exactly. He had everything to lose.


[30-Jan-20 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if it's a 50/50 vote for witnesses and Roberts decides to vote yes


[30-Jan-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
According to Trump's defence, calling on Saudi Arabia to imprison US citizens visiting the country because they're gay is 100% OK


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking it's uncertain, but the general expectation is 50/50 means the vote loses.


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts doesn't actually vote.


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut the constitution's vague on this.


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He can.


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Happened with Johnson.


[30-Jan-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he might rule that it he chooses how a 50/50 goes.


[30-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[30-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
so he can vote.


[30-Jan-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well then.


[30-Jan-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Can_


[30-Jan-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Traditionally they don't do much but he's already no Rhenquist


[30-Jan-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who bragged that he didn't have to do anything really


[30-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was no real need either


[30-Jan-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh Trump's lawyers have demeaned him and Rand Paul's been such a little bitch that, combined with his known dislike of Trump, I can imagine him casting a vote


[30-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[30-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Bloomberg rise is fun to watch


[30-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mike Bloomberg?


[30-Jan-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop is full of little bitches thatjust keep gnawing and pressing on their luck


[30-Jan-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More like Mike Coomberg


[30-Jan-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I-is that...an extra large soda?"


[30-Jan-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair no one needs a 2 liter glass of coke


[30-Jan-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you need a 2 liter glass of coke, then just buy a bottle form the store


[30-Jan-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't.


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just get a refill.


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"But that's embarrassing"


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the point.


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>embarassing


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitch it's free soda


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is literally why Super Sizing was invented


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not even remotely embarrassing


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
in most places the soda fountains are in front of the counter


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because consumers said they didn't want to order a second drink or fry and feel like they were fat


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you dint even have to talk to anyone, you cN walk up tot he soda fountain


[30-Jan-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
you can just walk up and refill it


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supersizing was about psychology


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I go around stores with my phone out calculating the cost per kilo on potatoes


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the hell is gonna judge me and why should I give a damn


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
you might be a bit more aggressive than most on that


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You judge yourself and spend less


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you this is why such large sizes exist


[30-Jan-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I generally take produce to be near rock bottom in terms of margins


[30-Jan-20 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone at work asked if my phone was an iphone and I almost burst out laughing


[30-Jan-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My mom for some reason thinks diet coke is just like coke but with all the unhealthy properties taken off


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again there are people that make a point of putting their fanciest new bevelled phones on the desk during meetings


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is the general misconception


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool status symbol bro


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
I have no idea what I'm seeing, but I'm  amused that soda bottles are pooitical


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soda tax, big slurp ban made by mike bloomburg awhile back


[30-Jan-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GLUG GLUG, COMRADE, SUPER SIP FOR THE PEOPLE


[30-Jan-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.q add @Teaspoon GLUG GLUG, COMRADE, SUPER SIP FOR THE PEOPLE


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[30-Jan-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Jan-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Jan-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg will just ensure Bernie gets the nom


[30-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
I remember that. I stocked up on 2 liter and 3 liter bottles of diff soda's,  who knew 25 dollars could get you 30 gallons of soda?!


[30-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And if people don't see similarities with how people thought of Trump and how things are with Bernie you must be blind


[30-Jan-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's going to pan out the same way


[30-Jan-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
@Alushy The Tyrant that is an incredible deal


[30-Jan-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
even the prepackaged soda boxes come in at $80 and make 30 gallons a box


[30-Jan-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love sales that drop prices below the dollar mark


[30-Jan-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can get so much more when things are only around 80 cents or so


[30-Jan-20 10:33 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
After converting liters to gallons yeah, 25 dollars can go far, you just end up with a lot of plastic, lol


[30-Jan-20 10:36 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
I mean 1 dollar for a 2 to 3 liter bottle of soda, adds up quick so 25 dollars for 23 bottles of just 2 liter is 46 liters


[30-Jan-20 10:37 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
XD i don't know how mad i made Family Dollar for nearly clearing out the cheap sodas


[30-Jan-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/d344gv/man-fills-kfc-bucket-with-soda-internet-calls-him-a-genius

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Behold This Resourceful Man Who Used His KFC Chicken Bucket for a ...
The 'smartest man alive' redefines the free refill.
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[30-Jan-20 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh


[30-Jan-20 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's gotta inherit some weird grease and salt flavour


[30-Jan-20 10:41 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
Not really, those buckets can be easily cleaned with napkins. Take if from someone whose worked there


[30-Jan-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greasy soda salt


[30-Jan-20 10:42 PM] Midknight#9798
Good luck finding a lid for it tho


[30-Jan-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who needs a lid when you can dunk your face into it like a horse's feedbag


[30-Jan-20 10:42 PM] Alushy The Tyrant#4963
LOL


[30-Jan-20 10:43 PM] Midknight#9798
is that what the colts are calling it these days?


[30-Jan-20 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[30-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just read an argument in favor of secession


[30-Jan-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically "Too far gone, just let people who want out leave"


[30-Jan-20 11:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does this have anything to do with the call to push part of VA into WV


[30-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He talked about it being better for everyone but also didn't talk highly of California etc "Politically Correct secession"


[30-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[30-Jan-20 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does this person know that's treason


[30-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The other solution was basically "Basically make states 99% sovereign"


[30-Jan-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex California would be own country and have own everything except for international relations etc


[30-Jan-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh boy, "sovereign." What a fun buzzword


[30-Jan-20 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
My staunch nationalist friend is also fond of that word


[30-Jan-20 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He also doesn't like it when you try to qualify what kind of nationalism


[30-Jan-20 11:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"states' rights"


[30-Jan-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I do kind of think that everyone would be happier if the US were 3-4 separate countries

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[30-Jan-20 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ah, yes, America, Dixie, and Nothing™️


[30-Jan-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
national socialism™️


[30-Jan-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically America, Dixie, Texas, and NCR


[30-Jan-20 11:15 PM] Midknight#9798
Now Cipo boy is complaining about "repeated investigations wasting the public's money."

14 benghazi investigations, you sack of hypocritical shit


[30-Jan-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/legal/480757-writer-who-accused-trump-of-rape-seeks-dna-sample

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Writer who accused Trump of rape seeks DNA sample
Lawyers for columnist E. Jean Carroll, who accused President Trump of raping her in a Manhattan department store in the 1990s, are seeking to collect DNA evidence from the president.
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[30-Jan-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I watched this and I can't stop fucking laughing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvalDyYHEY

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CNN Panel Guffaws And Laughs Itself Into Tears Ridiculing Stupidit...
CNN anchor Don Lemon on Saturday night guffawed and brought himself to tears of laughter, dabbing a tissue to dry his eyes, as he and two guests ridiculed the stupidity of President Donald Trump and his supporters, with the two guests invoking a dumb person impersonation mean...
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[31-Jan-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/480790-jordan-says-he-will-support-mccarthy-for-speaker-if-majority-flips-next-year

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Jordan says he will support McCarthy for Speaker if majority flips...
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a founding member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, pledged Thursday to throw his support behind House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) for Speaker if the House majority flips next year.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/jordanjim_012720gn_lead.jpg


[31-Jan-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480775-chris-christie-says-he-could-definitely-see-trump-campaigning-against-gop

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Chris Christie says he could 'definitely' see Trump targeting GOP ...
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) says in a new interview that President Trump might target Republican senators who buck party leadership and vote for additional witnesses in the Senate impeachment trial for primary challenges.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_christiechris10262017getty.jpg


[31-Jan-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480714-democrat-who-dropped-her-congressional-campaign-over-bullying-will-help

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Democrat who ended her campaign over bullying will help write anti...
A former New Jersey congressional candidate who ended her campaign last month over concerns of bullying will co-chair a group writing anti-harassment legislation to protect others on the campaign trail.
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[31-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
```Shokin was fired because he wasn't investigating Burisma
Why would Biden want him fired if he wanted to protect Hunter?
That's what Shokin wasn't doing right```


[31-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't even about facts and logic


[31-Jan-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
this requires actually _caring_ about Ukraine at least a little bit.


[31-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a bit no-no for 99% for US citizens


[31-Jan-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
that includes people at the top


[31-Jan-20 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
the conservative narrative in the US is that shokin was actually doing his job


[31-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
even though according to pretty much every source of information besides trump's legal team and shokin himself, he wasn't doing his job


[31-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
he was either inept or compromised


[31-Jan-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
though from what I've read, it's more likely he was just inept


[31-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html

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The inside story of Ukraine’s ‘very good’ prosecutor at the ...
Donald Trump said Ukraine’s former chief prosecutor was an honest, wronged man, fired after Joe Biden tried to shut down an investigation into his son’s gas company. In Kiev, Oliver Carroll speaks to people who know Viktor Shokin, and finds a different story
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[31-Jan-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
never mind, seems he was compromised


[31-Jan-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Between compromised and inept, the usual story is "both"

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[31-Jan-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480799-warren-puts-justice-roberts-in-awkward-spot-with-supreme-court-legitimacy#

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Warren puts Justice Roberts in awkward spot with Supreme Court leg...
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) introduced a seemingly
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[31-Jan-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
well, at least she can remind us that she's still around, even if she's likely lost the nomination


[31-Jan-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/24/trumps-nightmare-worsens-as-72-demand-trial-witnesses.html

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Trump’s Nightmare Worsens As 72% Demand Trial Witnesses
Trump's sham impeachment trial has turned into a nightmare as a new poll reveals that 72% of Americans want impeachment witnesses.
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[31-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[31-Jan-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
trump's approval rating has been doing something freaky the past 20 days


[31-Jan-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh seems fairly consistent across the board?


[31-Jan-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
was elected, realisation struck, and it stayed vivid ever since


[31-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, look at the past month


[31-Jan-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
for jan 1 2020 to jan 30 2020


[31-Jan-20 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh boy, someone just started a conversation with my right-wing economist acquaintance about worker's rights and used the term "fair wage" and his response was, and I quote


[31-Jan-20 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> what's a fair wage?


[31-Jan-20 01:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/ech0astral/status/1222183744414658561?s=09

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first the Warren thing and now this. if you're still supporting Bernie, you're supporting sexism and blatant misogyny. plain and simple. https://t.co/JgM6Cs8BqE
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[31-Jan-20 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently he does not think the poverty line is a metric that should be used to determine what a "living wage" should be, nor should the minimum wage necessarily be tied to it


[31-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ask him whether a wage that would allow someone to liv in a small apartment and afford food and medical care and all necessary things to perform their job is the minimum for a "fair" wage.


[31-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Frame it in terms of a cost every month.


[31-Jan-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a number of hours to work that month that wouldn't be taxing, *i.e.* less than 160.


[31-Jan-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
already been presented, he pivoted and started yammering about how wasteful the welfare state is


[31-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally.


[31-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell him you refuse to accept the topic change.


[31-Jan-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep asking what a fair wage is.


[31-Jan-20 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
thankfully, I'm not leading the charge on this one - there is a very angery regular taking him on and I'm just 🍿


[31-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[31-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Macarou#9574
Nice


[31-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you can do a bit of steering


[31-Jan-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, just sit bakk for most of it, but point out fallacies and topic changes.


[31-Jan-20 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Take my word for it, it's handled


[31-Jan-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he is having a meltdown and proclaiming that taxes are "charity at gunpoint," but it's handled


[31-Jan-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[31-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always shitpost with those people


[31-Jan-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"You complain about taxes being theft but acquiesce to a system where your boss takes your work and calls it profit and that doesn't upset you"


[31-Jan-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even better


[31-Jan-20 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he got called out on this being his job, and that maybe there was a reason why he got worried about job security a couple months ago


[31-Jan-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Imagine if a Koch brother had to commute to work by bus and mingle with the riff-raff. That's this guy's take on life in NYC


[31-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always remember the study about how liberals and conservatives respond to people like, bleeding out.


[31-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberal: OH GOD *clutches area on their own body that matches where the wound is*


[31-Jan-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative: EWWW BURN IT


[31-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that extreme, of course, but it's a very telling thing about the thought process.


[31-Jan-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals tend to feel bad for people, Conservatives tend to just get disgusted.


[31-Jan-20 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Amusingly, the other day he took it personally when someone brought up the article on the Holocaust survivor comparing America in 2020 to Germany in 1939. Despite no one having done anything other than link it.


[31-Jan-20 01:53 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony  I feel like it's possible to reword it in a way to make conservatives support living wages, but I'm not sure how


[31-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not.


[31-Jan-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being conservative is about putting someone else below you.


[31-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that you can feel comfort in your own position, dealing with fear.


[31-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a living wage means people get closer up to you.


[31-Jan-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[31-Jan-20 01:54 AM] jlun2#8758
maybe it's because I'm one of those dreaded millenials, but I personally just play video games whenever I wanted that kinda feeling @Nebbie


[31-Jan-20 01:54 AM] jlun2#8758
suppressing npcs be like :nut:


[31-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being conservative is about feeling it more often.


[31-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It starts to make you want to *do something* against the *bad people*.


[31-Jan-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If video games alone can comfort you, you're pretty liberal.

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[31-Jan-20 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> economy guy: cause everything you're suggesting can only be implemented by communism
> angery guy: Bold words for someone who is gonna use my ammo for the boog


[31-Jan-20 01:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna need two buckets of popcorn for this one


[31-Jan-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, I think you need to graduate to eating meats.


[31-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, angry


[31-Jan-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you want me to envision him as an Australian with no shirt ready to go full memery.


[31-Jan-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
lemme summarize angery guy in two words: SHALL NOT


[31-Jan-20 02:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but he's nowhere near the meme level of the guy who, when forced back onto the question of living wages yet again, answers "I don't play God like Stalin. I don't know what a fair wage is for a college kid in NY"


[31-Jan-20 02:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1222982040183767043

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𝙏𝙃𝙍𝙀𝘼𝘿: 𝘾𝙤𝙣𝙜𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝘿𝙚𝙢𝙤𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙨 𝙏𝙤𝙥 10 𝙄𝙢𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙢𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙇𝙞𝙚𝙨
 
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[31-Jan-20 02:08 AM] illumnious#7938
pure hopeless


[31-Jan-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like how his son managed to broker peace between isreal and isreal, it really shows how anti conflict isreal is in dealing with isreal


[31-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/480777-sanders-introduces-bill-to-ban-hydraulic-fracking

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Sanders introduces bill to ban fracking
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) this week introduced a bill that aims to ban hydraulic fracking.
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[31-Jan-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look  another bill for mcconnell's desk of death


[31-Jan-20 03:02 AM] illumnious#7938
AP FACT CHECK: Pence misleadingly links Iran general to 9/11
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/01/06/ap-fact-check-pence-misleadingly-links-iran-general-to-911/

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AP FACT CHECK: Pence misleadingly links Iran general to 9/11
President Donald Trump closed out the old year by reprising a selection of his most familiar falsehoods and putting a few of his predecessor's accomplishments in his own win column.
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[31-Jan-20 03:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33MKNn-1iKs

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UH-OH: Trump Tweets Self-Incriminating Video of John Bolton
--Donald Trump tweets a self-incriminating video of John Bolton while hilariously believing that the video is exculpatory
👍 Subscribe to the UpFlip YouTube channel → https://davidpakman.com/upflip

Is this why Trump is attacking Bolton? https://youtu.be/-5eDtBjTwGY

Supp...
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[31-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
welp. witness vote failed


[31-Jan-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
pre-failed, anyway


[31-Jan-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lamar to vote no.


[31-Jan-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Collins to vote yes.


[31-Jan-20 05:09 AM] illumnious#7938
yis


[31-Jan-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oddly he seems to believe his guilt but still didn't vote for it.


[31-Jan-20 05:15 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/MarkBednar/status/1223086072537677824

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❗WATCH:

Joe Biden argued in 1999: The Senate does not need to "take new evidence or hear live witness testimony"

Why should the Biden Rule not apply here? https://t.co/6OO2pyDkT1
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[31-Jan-20 05:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1223082623351713792?s=20

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Americans across the political spectrum are disgusted by the Washington Democrats’ Partisan Hoaxes, Witch Hunts, & Con Jobs. Registered Democrats and Independents are leaving the Democrat Party in droves, & we are welcoming these voters to the Republican Party w/ wide op...
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[31-Jan-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's see, perjury over a blowjob or trying to get a foreign power to investigate your rival


[31-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Number big that mean life good


[31-Jan-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people hated being called rubes because they know they are.


[31-Jan-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
credulous boomer rube is the funniest thing I've heard all week


[31-Jan-20 05:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1223099086389121026 you mean the worst to come

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THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
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[31-Jan-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pandering to the base really does not work though


[31-Jan-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man


[31-Jan-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
that clip does not get old


[31-Jan-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I've rewatched it like 20 times now


[31-Jan-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
throat still sore from laughing


[31-Jan-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/Nuchnibi/status/1223033384127074306

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Trump team caught writing the questions for GOP senators 😲😲😲#TrumpsRemovalTrial #ImpeachmentTrial #TrumpIsGuilty  #SenateImpeachmentTrial #ImpeachmentHearing https://t.co/bGQdb7IBBx
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[31-Jan-20 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a less clickbaity version of this clip further down but that one lacks any and all context as to what you're supposed to notice


[31-Jan-20 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
namely, the very distinctive yellow cards that Roberts was reading from


[31-Jan-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pearl Jam's "Do The Evolution" is still the best music video ever produced


[31-Jan-20 07:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/democrat-plan-call-witnesses-trump-impeachment-trial-dead-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Democrats' plan to call witnesses in Trump's impeachment trial loo...
The motion to call witnesses requires a simple majority in the GOP-controlled Senate, requiring at least four Republican senators to vote yes.
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[31-Jan-20 07:20 AM] illumnious#7938
*Alexander announced he would vote no on the motion, saying in a statement that, "The Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year's ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate."*


[31-Jan-20 07:20 AM] illumnious#7938
lad


[31-Jan-20 07:22 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/Nuchnibi/status/1223033384127074306
@WingbeatPony what a surprise, you know they cheating right?

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[31-Jan-20 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I like the comment that pointed out that even with such hands-on "coaching" of the questions, they still struggled to answer them


[31-Jan-20 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly, that is


[31-Jan-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/479087-trump-announces-the-us-will-join-1-trillion-tree-initiative

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Trump announces the US will join 1 trillion tree initiative
President Trump on Tuesday announced the United States will join the One Trillion Trees Initiative launched at the World Economic Forum as world leaders seek to combat climate change.
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[31-Jan-20 10:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he then turned around, shredded the agreement and pretended he never knew of this 1 trillion trees initiative


[31-Jan-20 10:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why he is having that strange posture?


[31-Jan-20 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he wears lifting shoes to compensate for his height and they make him stand like a centaur with it's hind legs missing


[31-Jan-20 10:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Huh, then why girls on high heels don't walk like that?


[31-Jan-20 10:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because high heels raise you in a different posture


[31-Jan-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also most girls wearing high heels aren't wearing ill fitting suits


[31-Jan-20 10:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wears suits that are like 1 or 2 sizes up because he likely thinks it will hide his gut


[31-Jan-20 10:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it just makes his posture issues mroe obvious


[31-Jan-20 10:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the phrase "Bigger is better" gone horribly, tragically wrong


[31-Jan-20 10:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps lift shoes are likely in the insoles and not the heels


[31-Jan-20 11:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of his bad posture is the fact that it;s exaggerated by a suit way too big for him


[31-Jan-20 11:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as the fact that his inserts make him lean forward


[31-Jan-20 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Jan-20 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
high heels are different in that they dont make you lean, they essentially give you a supported toe walk


[31-Jan-20 11:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like walking on your toes with stilts on your heels


[31-Jan-20 11:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder, what ergonomic prevents from using heels? Not womanly kind.


[31-Jan-20 11:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably thinks he;s being subtle


[31-Jan-20 11:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesn't want people to know he's using a height boost because he;s all about pride and the illusion of competence


[31-Jan-20 11:06 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/01/30/boronina/

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I Am the Lizard King, I Can Say Anything
The flag of Polevskoy. Courtesy of Wikipedia United Russia Councillor Suggests Ural Villagers Send Children to Boarding School Due to Lack of Bus Mediazona January 27, 2020 In Sverdlovsk Region, Ly…
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[31-Jan-20 11:07 AM] ononim#8141
```In Sverdlovsk Region, Lyudmila Boronina, a member of the Polevskoy Urban District Council, suggested that residents of the village of Krasnaya Gorka send their children to a boarding school since the village does not have its own school or a bus to take children to Polevskoy, the nearest town. Boronina’s remarks were quoted by the newspaper Vechernye Vedomosti.```


[31-Jan-20 11:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is, Trump's subtlety is the equivalent of a wrecking ball to an appartment complex


[31-Jan-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so all these little things he thinks are clever and subtle for his image, are actually tacky and obvious to everyone around him


[31-Jan-20 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you removed the oversized suit, he would likely just be a frail short man with a fat gut and a daddy complex a mile wide


[31-Jan-20 11:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Subtle as a trainwreck"


[31-Jan-20 11:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for the russian mafia, he would likely be a used car salesman living in a trailer yelling about how great he is to his annoyed neighbors


[31-Jan-20 11:33 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
He was involved with russian mafia in 1990?


[31-Jan-20 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are the only reason banks would loan to him


[31-Jan-20 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/9/12/17764132/trump-fbi-russia-new-york-times-craig-unger

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Trump’s ties to the Russian mafia go back 3 decades
Journalist Craig Unger talks Russia, Trump, and "one of the greatest intelligence operations in history."
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Zw0fb9GwysoXx_sW6xgTq-wzsgE=/0x322:4500x2678/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/12883177/1000209288.jpg.jpg


[31-Jan-20 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes


[31-Jan-20 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

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mikehirsh
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business
After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.
https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gettyimages-628021900.jpg


[31-Jan-20 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is horrible at money management and business decisions, he has managed to bankrupt his own casinos somehow despite casinos being literally made to print money. Needless to say, this streak made him a liability for banks to even touch


[31-Jan-20 11:38 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see. He is not only businessman, but a bad one. And running a country.


[31-Jan-20 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[31-Jan-20 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason his businesses lasted this long was because of an "i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" deal with the russian mafia


[31-Jan-20 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Russia got a twofer with him too as he not only lifted their sanctions, he made russia look like a more appetizing ally to other countries by jsut being his normal narcissist assfuck self


[31-Jan-20 11:41 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wanna join russian mafia :PepeHands:


[31-Jan-20 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's also the perfect minion because as long as you;re a powerful dictator, he's willing to believe anything you say, at the ready, no questions asked because it might make him look more powerful


[31-Jan-20 11:43 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie are  you relative or former colleague?


[31-Jan-20 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesn't want to run things liek putin, he;d rather run america like kim jong un runs north korea


[31-Jan-20 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
family dynasty with a death sentence placed on critics


[31-Jan-20 11:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't  all of it same?


[31-Jan-20 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dictatorships come in a wide veriety of styles, in putins case, he;s trying to restore soviet russia and the glory of the KGB era


[31-Jan-20 11:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which is actually a bad thing.


[31-Jan-20 11:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he essenntially wants to go back to stalinism


[31-Jan-20 11:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lessons learnt, that you cannot sustain a country in complete  isolation.


[31-Jan-20 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim jong un meanwhile would rather have a ruler/peasant fuedal system where his family has all the power and resources and the citizens are his to command


[31-Jan-20 11:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as havingnukes


[31-Jan-20 11:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really wants those nukes


[31-Jan-20 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is also hampered by china who keeps having to tell him to calm the fuck down or they'll have to abandon them as a defense so they dont end up in a sinking boat


[31-Jan-20 11:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yet, stalinism had cult following like in nk


[31-Jan-20 11:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it did, it;s part of the basis for his family dynasty


[31-Jan-20 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thing is, they still have stalinism, while russia does not


[31-Jan-20 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin wants to restore stalinism


[31-Jan-20 11:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though, now it is different. USSR not coming back.


[31-Jan-20 11:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue is kim jong un's family is plagued with nepotism so it gets a little more deranged and unhinged with each generation


[31-Jan-20 11:53 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Back then people worked their asses for ideals, now it is survival and/or money.


[31-Jan-20 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you're either handed the silver platter by your parents, or you;re a peasant on a farm


[31-Jan-20 11:54 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
that shit is worldwide kobold


[31-Jan-20 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[31-Jan-20 11:54 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nepotism is that what USSR and Russia about.


[31-Jan-20 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good kim jong un has a child


[31-Jan-20 11:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how insane he'll be in the future


[31-Jan-20 11:55 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You wonder, why all gen secretaries died in 80s? They were of the same age.


[31-Jan-20 11:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And yet, back in ussr it wasn't  survival struggle. Government  provided hefty benefits.


[31-Jan-20 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main difference ebtween putin and north korea is putin has a gigantic ass country~~ with good ambassadors and a far more stable mind~~


[31-Jan-20 11:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
nope


[31-Jan-20 11:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
difference is russia has shitton of natural resources


[31-Jan-20 11:57 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which are going to private pockets


[31-Jan-20 11:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
and buisness that ppl established during 90's-00's which were stolen by "bratki" or putins friends


[31-Jan-20 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a mafia in everyone's pockets


[31-Jan-20 11:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
yeah


[31-Jan-20 11:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
but like government mafia


[31-Jan-20 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially the kgb with a more crime syndicated focus


[31-Jan-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a shit ton of political black mail


[31-Jan-20 12:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Back to isolation. Back then Russia had proper  education. Now, education rolled dowhill into "purchased degree". How are you going to keep up with competitors techwise, if all talented/smart people moved elsewhere and new specialists are not specialists?


[31-Jan-20 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is why china is kicking russia's ass in terms of tech and surveillance


[31-Jan-20 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china takes advantage of the young people;s technical knowledge, russia meanwhile puts a power focus on the old white men of the KGB era and has a semi similar problem to america


[31-Jan-20 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
young people are to be shunned and their knowledge to be ignored because it could disrupt the power balance


[31-Jan-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this however results in a shit ton of incompetence because they can't figure out how newer tech works and they have far less surveillance equipment because they dont have anyone really developing it anymore


[31-Jan-20 12:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but hey "we" won ww2


[31-Jan-20 12:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so who cares about today or tommow


[31-Jan-20 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia has propaganda bot farms sure, but that;s not really new technology, that;s just the twitter equivalent of chinese WoW farming companies


[31-Jan-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the twitter bots are becoming less effective as more people catch on to them


[31-Jan-20 12:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Do you guys really think that Putin helped Trump to win the election?


[31-Jan-20 12:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have no idea.


[31-Jan-20 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think he had a hand in it, i dont think he's the sole reason though


[31-Jan-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of it was also that trump's campaign staff knew where best to campaign to activate electoral college rules


[31-Jan-20 12:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Part of it was Clinton


[31-Jan-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clinton also helped by being an obnoxious whiny baby about being owed the presidency and her buy out of the DNC


[31-Jan-20 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of people didn't like how it was treated as "She's gonna win, that's settled, slotted in for first woman president"


[31-Jan-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i sure as fuck didnt


[31-Jan-20 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
#withher


[31-Jan-20 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt mind a woman president but fuck them if they think being a woman would be all there is to it...


[31-Jan-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary had no fucking plans or policies, her 3 biggest campaign pushes were that she knew wall street, she has a vagina, and she may or may not be an extension of obama


[31-Jan-20 12:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sure she did, but the only messaging around her was "The most prepared candidate in history" and "It's finally time for a woman president"


[31-Jan-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after the primaries all her resources went into attacking trump with no actual information on how she would run the office


[31-Jan-20 12:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently it was not yet the time to finally have a non-christian president


[31-Jan-20 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the best reason i could get out of most people voting for her was that "bernie was old and might die in office"


[31-Jan-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically the same could be said of hillary the mainn difference being is she doesnt look as old as she is


[31-Jan-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while bernie does


[31-Jan-20 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bernie looks the sort of old that'll suddenly pull out a knife and shank you


[31-Jan-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now bernie has even more of my vote


[31-Jan-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
.aq @Teaspoon Bernie looks the sort of old that'll suddenly pull out a knife and shank you


[31-Jan-20 12:34 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@prism stryder(intexda), quote added (@Teaspoon:  Bernie looks the sort of old that'll suddenly pull out a knife and shank you).


[31-Jan-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/4-myths-trumps-lawyers-are-promoting-about-andrew-johnson-2020-1

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4 myths that Trump's lawyers are promoting about the first US pres...
Trump's lawyers would have you believe that Andrew Johnson was unjustly impeached by a group of radicals in the House of Representatives.
https://i.insider.com/591cbc1263914790008b45c9?width=1200&format=jpeg


[31-Jan-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-will-demand-nhs-pays-more-for-drugs-after-brexit-2020-1

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-will-demand-nhs-pays-more-for-drugs-after-brexit-2020-1
Trump will demand the NHS pays more for drugs after Brexit, warns ...
Donald Trump will insist the NHS pays more for American drugs after Brexit, the outgoing British ambassador to Washington has claimed.
https://i.insider.com/5e3408df24306a65b73dea42?width=1200&format=jpeg


[31-Jan-20 02:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://cnn.it/2OvGpbh

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John Bolton defends Trump administration officials who testified i...
Former national security adviser John Bolton, who has been a central figure in Democrats' fight to hear from witnesses in the Senate trial, defended on Thursday Trump administration officials who testified as part of the House impeachment inquiry.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200128124325-02-john-bolton-0128-super-tease.jpg


[31-Jan-20 04:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Wrong channel


[31-Jan-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
For shits and giggles

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[31-Jan-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So this is where Trump gets his survey results from...


[31-Jan-20 04:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Very normal country things

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[31-Jan-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/3u1ej3jnz3e41.png

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[31-Jan-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/xsndvdbhw0e41.jpg 🤡

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[31-Jan-20 05:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
So all those cyber goths wearing neon gas masks were just time travelers


[31-Jan-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
when 4chan throws you a party https://i.redd.it/22vobqrj90e41.png

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[31-Jan-20 05:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
eat nazis


[31-Jan-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] wanna try https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-vitality-air-sales-update-bottled-air-1.5073762


[31-Jan-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
selling them I mean to polluted countries


[31-Jan-20 06:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> A bottle of air that comes with a mask and is enough for approximately 160 one-second breaths sells for $32 on the company's online store.
then add a free face mask like your post


[31-Jan-20 06:18 PM] jlun2#8758
then use those funds for ponies and life expenses


[31-Jan-20 06:18 PM] jlun2#8758
Derpibooru Air maybe


[31-Jan-20 06:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/ZVYqB0uTKlE?t=104

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André Cunha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE&start=104
Why the UK is in the EU
Short clip from "Yes Minister" series of 1980
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[31-Jan-20 06:48 PM] illumnious#7938
@Teaspoon pretty much


[31-Jan-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
SUV breaches security checkpoints at Mar-a-Lago Club; shots fired
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/01/31/police-investigation-underway-near-mar-a-lago-club/

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Police investigation underway near Mar-a-Lago Club
Police are investigating an incident near President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/fbLsn4A0d1KaM2pDlEQxM_IvJJw=/1600x900/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/d1vhqlrjc8h82r.cloudfront.net/01-31-2020/t_36d0184bc30b42208d3640fe076f2e91_name_Aerial_Palm_Beach_investigation.jpg


[31-Jan-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938
*Trump is scheduled to spend Super Bowl weekend in Palm Beach.*


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please tell me trump got shot


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Nope


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Also in our dreams


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was a short car chase in the area


[31-Jan-20 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's all we know


[31-Jan-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
It's a development story; the whole information will be in a few hours


[31-Jan-20 07:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/someknew/status/1223303786409517056?s=21

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🆃🅷🅸🅽🅺🅴🆁 (@someknew)
https://twitter.com/someknew/status/1223303786409517056?s=21
@TheTweetOfGod Thank you for all the camera coverage https://t.co/zBqv9uWmXS
https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/1222944101173207040/img/RT3-D2ZVAwQWrkma.jpg
Twitter


[31-Jan-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Murkowski announced she'll block witnesses


[31-Jan-20 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep done


[31-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What stops the House from resending the same articles back though


[31-Jan-20 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Constantly


[31-Jan-20 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480779-dershowitz-trump-trial-is-my-worst-controversy

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Dershowitz: Trump trial is my 'worst controversy'
Celebrity attorney Alan Dershowitz has become the lightning rod of the Senate impeachment trial.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dershowitzalen_012920bc4_lead.jpg


[31-Jan-20 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also uhhh no not really


[31-Jan-20 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really, not the kiddy diddling?


[31-Jan-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He kept his underwear on.


[31-Jan-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He just got a massage from the sex slaves, nothing else.


[31-Jan-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/01/earn-it-act-how-ban-end-end-encryption-without-actually-banning-it

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The EARN IT Act: How to Ban End-to-End Encryption Without Actually...


[31-Jan-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
important read


[31-Jan-20 08:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
tl;dr please


[31-Jan-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Lindsey Graham is a lying sack of shit


[31-Jan-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Saved you the trouble


[31-Jan-20 08:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The question is, how you can ban without actually banning it? Force ISPs to implement MITM?


[31-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
you probably cannot and it's clickbait.


[31-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It isn't clickbait


[31-Jan-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's lawyertalk


[31-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Эᴚ|∫ delegation to the Executive


[31-Jan-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, Congress doesn't declare it illegal, it just declares the Executive can "implement measures" to "prevent child abuse"


[31-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then the FCC comes in with a measure saying end-to-end encryption's gotta go.


[31-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, Congress didn't force YT to force creators to mark vids as child-directed and kill their ad revenue


[31-Jan-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC did, because Congress delegated powers to it in COPPA.


[31-Jan-20 08:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
US real good at these things


[31-Jan-20 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-in-1972-u-s-actions-in-vietnam-almost-as-bad-as-what-hitler-did/

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Bernie Sanders in 1972: U.S. Actions in Vietnam 'Almost as Bad as ...
As anti-war sentiment spread in the early 1970s, a young Bernie Sanders said U.S. military action in Vietnam was "almost as bad as what Hitler did."
https://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/GettyImages-1202108822.jpg


[31-Jan-20 08:35 PM] ononim#8141
this is an anti-Bernie arrticle


[31-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
🤔


[31-Jan-20 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/health/coronavirus-map-real-time-tracking-trnd/index.html

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This map tracks the coronavirus in real time
View the Johns Hopkins University's Center for Systems Science and Engineering map that follows coronavirus cases across the world.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200129031755-05-wuhan-china-medical-system-super-tease.jpg


[31-Jan-20 08:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about "it came from the lab"?


[31-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/7000-people-held-cruise-ship-coronavirus-passenger-suspected-symptoms-report

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6,651 people held on cruise ship after passenger develops suspecte...
A Costa Cruises spokesperson confirmed the situation to Fox News on Thursday.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/01/AP20030454514886.jpg


[31-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Cruise ship"


[31-Jan-20 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That looks like a floating prison


[31-Jan-20 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
that's how they look tho


[31-Jan-20 08:51 PM] ononim#8141
they're just floating hotels


[31-Jan-20 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
horrific


[31-Jan-20 08:52 PM] ononim#8141
with a pool on top


[31-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then someone gets an infectious disease that causes diarrhea and vomiting


[31-Jan-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
soon enuff the whole ship is a giant mess


[31-Jan-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and basically a prison


[31-Jan-20 08:58 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Never understood the appeal of these... besides don't we have a lot of news about how work condition on these cruise ships is godawful


[31-Jan-20 08:59 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I won't say "serve them right" but I feel like pointing out this is a fine addition on the reasons to never take a cruise


[31-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's really just plain a bad idea.


[31-Jan-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
People think they're going on basically the Enterprise D, but it's more like a 2-star hotel that floats and has multiple guests in every room.


[31-Jan-20 09:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/africa/africa-neanderthal-dna-scn/index.html

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All modern humans have Neanderthal DNA, new research finds
All modern humans likely have a bit of Neanderthal in their DNA, including Africans who had previously been thought to have no genetic link to humanity's extinct human relative, a new study finds.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180226123522-neanderthal-man-super-tease.jpg


[31-Jan-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I never quite understood why resort cruisers have pools on the deck if there are already millions of metric cubes of water around the ship to dive into


[31-Jan-20 09:09 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
you're not saying that seriously right? xd


[31-Jan-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
his avatar is someone pointing a gun at the camera


[31-Jan-20 09:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes and no


[31-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
It's probably a compressed air carbine


[31-Jan-20 09:13 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
those are fairly easy to purchase in brazil


[31-Jan-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that would make sense considering badger is brazilian


[31-Jan-20 09:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.wsj.com/articles/africas-worst-locust-plague-in-decades-threatens-millions-11580475600

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Africa’s Worst Locust Plague in Decades Threatens Millions
East African nations are struggling to suppress a growing infestation of desert locusts that the U.N. says presents an unprecedented threat to food security and livelihoods in the Horn of Africa.
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[31-Jan-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not compressed air actually


[31-Jan-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was smithed by my great-grandpa himself


[31-Jan-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i don't know if the shooting mechanisms work


[31-Jan-20 09:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
why dont you test it out on some thugs


[31-Jan-20 09:33 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Next time your on a cruise. Do us all a favor and dive off the ship. And make sure to tell the crew not to stop


[31-Jan-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
EU parliament voted to mandate USB-C for mobile devices


[31-Jan-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
so kindly fuck off, apple

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[31-Jan-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pizzamovies just make the cruiser stop at certain spots for the crew to dive into


[31-Jan-20 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There, no need for pool construction and maintenance inside the ship


[31-Jan-20 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Resort cruisers are a bourgie waste of money anyway


[31-Jan-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/0w1czztru4e41.png

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[31-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/01/is-bernie-sanders-the-next-george-mcgovern-or-the-next-donald-trump/

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/01/is-bernie-sanders-the-next-george-mcgovern-or-the-next-donald-trump/
Is Bernie Sanders the next George McGovern—or the next Donald Trump?
Two political insurgents. Two very different results. Which fate awaits Sanders?
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/20200129-sanders-mcgovern-trump.jpg?w=1200&h=630&crop=1


[31-Jan-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good read


[31-Jan-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not giving a fuck and that "Yes" meme is powerful


[31-Jan-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
searching "trump 2020" gave this result
https://globalnews.ca/news/6465130/joy-villa-trump-2020-grammys/

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Arti Patel
https://globalnews.ca/news/6465130/joy-villa-trump-2020-grammys/
Singer Joy Villa wears ‘Trump 2020’ dress at the Grammy Awards
The singer once again wore a red carpet dress inspired by U.S. President Donald Trump.
https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/joyvillagrammys2020.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=379&crop=1


[31-Jan-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's never even been nominated for a Grammy


[31-Jan-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
@byte[] Isn't that why mobile devices ended up going Micro USB in the first place, because EU didn't like having 800 different proprietary connections


[31-Jan-20 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And *somehow* Apple skirted by that?


[31-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
they went microusb because it was what china was making


[31-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
they went usbc because it was what china was making


[31-Jan-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
apple has always been the special child

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[31-Jan-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480923-dnc-drops-donor-requirement-for-debates-opening-door-for-bloomberg

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DNC drops donor requirement for debates, opening door for Bloomberg
The Democratic National Committee eliminated Friday a fundraising requirement to qualify for the February debate in Las Vegas, potentially paving the way for former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg to make the stage
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/democratic_debate.jpg


[31-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mmm yes


[31-Jan-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Split the moderate vote


[31-Jan-20 11:10 PM] jlun2#8758
i just assume trump 2020 is guaranteed by now


[31-Jan-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP has the hubris now that the Dems did


[31-Jan-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Dems have the GOP anxiety


[31-Jan-20 11:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah. So it was never that deep; just going with the easiest option feasible 🤷


[31-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No witnesses


[31-Jan-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See the problem is that Dems will ride hard how unfair this was


[31-Jan-20 11:50 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bloomberg-expenditures-election-1.5447814


[31-Jan-20 11:50 PM] jlun2#8758
> Michael Bloomberg has spent well over $200M on presidential campaign so far


[01-Feb-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480941-senate-rejects-impeachment-witnesses-setting-up-trump-acquittal

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Senate rejects impeachment witnesses, setting up Trump acquittal
Senate Republicans rejected a mid-trial effort to call witnesses and documents on Friday, paving the way for President Trump’s acquittal on two articles of impeachment passed by the House..
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_013020.jpg


[01-Feb-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480898-bolton-says-trump-told-him-to-set-up-giuliani-meeting-in-ukraine

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Bolton says Trump told him to set up Giuliani meeting in Ukraine: ...
President Trump urged former national security adviser John Bolton last May to put Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in contact with Rudy Giuliani, according to a
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[01-Feb-20 12:11 AM] illumnious#7938
> searching "trump 2020" gave this result
> https://globalnews.ca/news/6465130/joy-villa-trump-2020-grammys/
@jlun2 laaaaaaaaaaaaad

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Singer Joy Villa wears ‘Trump 2020’ dress at the Grammy Awards
The singer once again wore a red carpet dress inspired by U.S. President Donald Trump.
https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/joyvillagrammys2020.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=720&h=379&crop=1

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[01-Feb-20 12:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/just-plain-wrong-dnc-blistered-for-letting-billionaire-mike-bloomberg-onto-the-debate-stage/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Just plain wrong’: DNC blistered for letting billionaire Mike...
The Democratic National Committee was blasted online on Friday after changing the rules for 2020 debates in a manner that could allow billionaire Michael Bloomberg to essentially buy his way onto the stage. “The Democratic National Committee is drastically revising its crit...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Tom-Perez.jpg


[01-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now he will at least get criticism


[01-Feb-20 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At least Bernie can use him as a punching bag


[01-Feb-20 12:56 AM] RYDE#8862
I'm gonna vote for Bernie Sanders this year.

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[01-Feb-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
Okay


[01-Feb-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
so


[01-Feb-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
as of now


[01-Feb-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
what is the status?


[01-Feb-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
Hard border in Ireland?


[01-Feb-20 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
What about EU people in (sson to be former :twismug: ) UK and UK exparts in EU?


[01-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristianJPerea/status/1222664889690279937

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Christian Perea (@ChristianJPerea)
https://twitter.com/ChristianJPerea/status/1222664889690279937
This is how many restaurants treat gig-workers for companies like @ubereats and @doordash as subhumans:

(Both photos taken by delivery PEOPLE at Vivi's Cafe in Redwood City.)
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[01-Feb-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So...is there, like, an employees-only restroom? Because I can't imagine being able to run a restaurant without letting your employees take a pit stop


[01-Feb-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if there is, and they can't use it, then...I hope their profit margins have been high enough to retain a good lawyer


[01-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if there were an employees only restroom well


[01-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChristianJPerea/status/1223330570593165313

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Christian Perea (@ChristianJPerea)
https://twitter.com/ChristianJPerea/status/1223330570593165313
@AgentAkit I think both photos touch on a larger theme of tension between restaurant employees and delivery workers.

A few weeks ago I sat down alone at a restaurant. The staff was SLAMMED, but only for delivery apps. No tips for the workers at the restaurant (except from...
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[01-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Restaurant workers _hate_ these people


[01-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And you'd be surprised how high the profit margins are at some small places, they sometimes can get enough to get the same people Bayer or Monsanto etc do


[01-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny to me that California is made fun of for poop on streets and they get mad about it but do nothing about businesses like this


[01-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single one objectively contributes to a public health hazard


[01-Feb-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
doordash and uber eats are exploiting the fuck out of restaurants


[01-Feb-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
that's why this stuff happens


[01-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also iFood in my country


[01-Feb-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*remembers he's ordered food hours ago*


[01-Feb-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*looks around and sweats*


[01-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Pizzamovies#6050
“What’s going on here”
**BREXIT**


[01-Feb-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/1223377305650761728?s=20

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"If the president is acquitted with no witnesses, no documents, the acquittal will have no value. Because Americans will know that this trial was not a real trial. It had no witnesses. No documents. It is a tragedy on a very large scale." —@SenSchumer #ImpeachmentTrialSh...
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[01-Feb-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
this is new


[01-Feb-20 03:03 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend

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[01-Feb-20 03:18 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/NoKnownFuture/status/1222572243382874114

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Lefty Conspirator (@NoKnownFuture)
https://twitter.com/NoKnownFuture/status/1222572243382874114
That didn't quite turn out the way the cops had envisioned it, I am guessing. https://t.co/Jzklowiama
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[01-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
- Politics
- Politics
- Politics
- 🎵 K-POP STANS 🎵 
- Politics


[01-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
-Smackdown


[01-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://media2.giphy.com/media/gdKAVlnm3bmKI/source.gif

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WWE
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[01-Feb-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
and basketball


[01-Feb-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
but seriously tho, GOP cowards


[01-Feb-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/480954-republican-looks-to-change-virginia-law-against-arresting-lawmakers

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Republican looks to change Virginia law against arresting lawmaker...
A law preventing legislators from being arrested under misdemeanor charges is being blamed for blocking police from detaining a state legislator presumed to be driving under the influence over the weekend.
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[01-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXzvjBYW8A

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXzvjBYW8A
Have the Boomers Pinched Their Children’s Futures? - with Lord D...
The post-war baby boom of 1945-65 produced the biggest and richest generation in British history. David Willetts discusses how these boomers have attained this position at the expense of younger generations.

Lord Willett's book "The Pinch - How the Baby Boomers Took Their Ch...
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[01-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer describes how Boomers hav completely destroyed the chances of Millennials.


[01-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In extreme detail.


[01-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
With tons of statistics.


[01-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
bravo, boomer


[01-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So his view of things is that essentially boomers by being a gigantic "cohort", as in there were more of them, had massive advantages in voting and dollar voting, and thus they rigged it for themselves at every age they wer.


[01-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they were young, they rigged things to benefit younger people, and so during Thatcher they slashed pensions and redistributed wealth away from the Silents


[01-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they got older, they started forcing money into pension plans that they already had


[01-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
companies reacted by putting new workers on new pension plans that pay an order of magnitude less


[01-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Boomers robbed the old to giv to themselves, then robbed the young when they got old.


[01-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon important in relation you talking about pensions and generational effects on policies about them recently.


[01-Feb-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
he basically said my generation (zoomers) was going to get completely robbed of pensions and social security


[01-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
who knows maybe something better will be put in its place


[01-Feb-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
wat


[01-Feb-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
elaborate what you mean by that


[01-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe by the time zoomers get to be an age that pensions and social security would be important to them something better will be in place


[01-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At the rate we're going I think by then zoomers in their 60s will be more concerned about being in a neighbourhood good enough to have a fallout shelter or at least close enough to hear the air raid sirens warning of impending toxic dust storms


[01-Feb-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sunnyside okay but how does that excuse them stealing our shit


[01-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what? I wasn't excusing it. I'm just mearly optimistically saying that if the current system did get defunct by the time they got old enough there likely be something else in it's place that would serve a similar purpose.


[01-Feb-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
or... we take the shit they stole back


[01-Feb-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
seems like a novel concept

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[01-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's wishful thinking.


[01-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch the damn video.


[01-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is saying, slowly over the course of 40 minutes, very softly, that Boomers hav completely and utterly shafted Millennials ever having wealth.


[01-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Due to living longer while lording over them with more votes.


[01-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He brings up graph after graph that shows that there is no hope at all except for a trend in the last 2 years of increasing homeownership among Millennials.


[01-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mind you, increasing from 25% to 27%


[01-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers had **50%** when they were the same ages.


[01-Feb-20 04:51 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/busted-presidents-campaign-reveals-steering-over-1-8-million-to-his-family-and-trump-organization-businesses/?utm_source=push_notifications

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BUSTED: President’s campaign reveals ‘steering over $1.8 milli...
In a new filing with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC), President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign reported spending a staggering amount of money at Trump family businesses. Anna Massoglia, a researcher at Open Secrets, analyzed Trump’s latest public filings on how...
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[01-Feb-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
cool, but he's still in office


[01-Feb-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he'll continue being in office until he hits the shiny red nuclear apocalypse button out of pure spite for some world leader who said his hair looked bad


[01-Feb-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
or he dies of a heart attack


[01-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Midknight#9798
Maybe, if one of those big macs doesn't get him first


[01-Feb-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
or he dies in a helicopter crash


[01-Feb-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or he dies via suicide by 2 shots tot he back of his head


[01-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Midknight#9798
That's neither funny nor desirable. Just because the Lickspittle Congress has decided to abandon any pretense of law and order doesn't mean it'd be a good thing for anyone else to make it worse


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it'd probably result in total anarchy


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Midknight#9798
That said, if he decided to swallow live piranhas of his own free will, I wouldn't raise a hand to stop him.


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Midknight#9798
After all, it's not like mind control magic actually exists, right? ^_^


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah if anyone was going to assassinate him, it would likely be via poison as it;s been revealed no one fucking checks his drinks


[01-Feb-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Daddy Putin's watch is very enticing


[01-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Midknight#9798
Why would Putin assassinate a perfectly obedient stooge?


[01-Feb-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who says it would be putin?


[01-Feb-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I was just answering the "mind control magic" thing


[01-Feb-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Putin points, Trump looks


[01-Feb-20 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they have a very secret special bond between them


[01-Feb-20 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
forged in ||anal sex||


[01-Feb-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and strengthened by ||pee tapes||


[01-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Midknight#9798
naw, Trump's not openly homophobic enough to be hiding secret man trysts. That's more of a Republican Legislator thing, anyway


[01-Feb-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the congressional lemon party


[01-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Midknight#9798
*~doesn't get it but assumes it's something sordid~* ^_^


[01-Feb-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the congressional trump ||pee tapes||


[01-Feb-20 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
google "lemon party"


[01-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Midknight#9798
Nope, I don't google things like that.


[01-Feb-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a gay orgy of old men


[01-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Midknight#9798
I gained internet wiles in the age of goatse, tubgirl, and 2girls1cup


[01-Feb-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you could just google the urban dictionary definnition


[01-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Midknight#9798
You probably shouldn't google those.


[01-Feb-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I know what they are


[01-Feb-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I've seen all of them


[01-Feb-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
don't know how you could see goatse and tubgirl but not lemonparty


[01-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Midknight#9798
That was said just in case there's someone who didn't present. Not likely on this server, I know, but... I'm kind like that. 😛


[01-Feb-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know of all of them, i never watched the 2 girls video thoufgh, nor do i want to


[01-Feb-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was hyped enough by the time i learned of it that i knew what it was without having to view it


[01-Feb-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Feb-20 05:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/james-comey-admits-trump-is-a-bad-person-but-says-impeachment-acquittal-is-fine/?utm_source=push_notifications

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James Comey admits Trump is a ‘bad person’ — but says impeac...
The former director of the FBI downplayed the significance of Senate Republicans blocking impeachment trial witnesses as they march towards their goal of acquitting President Donald Trump. Comey, 59, argued that things were a lot worse in his childhood when he was growing up ...
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[01-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-eases-obama-era-restrictions-landmines/story?id=68670413

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Trump administration eases Obama-era restrictions on use of landmines
The Trump administration has eased limits placed on the U.S. military's use of land mines.
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[01-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`landmines with a 30-day self-destruction or self-deactivation feature.`


[01-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What could possibly go wrong?


[01-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Midknight#9798
Some technician screwed up and instead of 30 days it's set to self destruct after 30 seconds? Or 30 centuries?


[01-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Midknight#9798
Hey, if NASA can bury a lander because they used inches instead of cm... 😄


[01-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[01-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/31/definition-rigged-system-says-sanders-campaign-after-dnc-changes-debate-rules

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'Definition of a Rigged System,' Says Sanders Campaign After DNC C...
"DNC changing the rules to benefit a billionaire."
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[01-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
> After debate rules were changed in favor of allowing billionaire Mike Bloomberg to join the candidates onstage vying for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination on Friday, Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign hit back, calling the decision emblematic of the corrupt political system the Vermont senator has centered his run for the White House on defeating.
> 
> "To now change the rules in the middle of the game to accommodate Mike Bloomberg, who is trying to buy his way into the Democratic nomination, is wrong," Sanders senior adviser Jeff Weaver told Politico. "That's the definition of a rigged system."


[01-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
the DNC _really_ doesn't want a Sanders win


[01-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately for them, they might have sabotaged themselves further with this move


[01-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and made Sanders more popular


[01-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Midknight#9798
I'd vote for sanders over bloomberg


[01-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Midknight#9798
Vermont's relatively sane about guns, after all


[01-Feb-20 06:53 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow  can't wait for 2020 to be the year Trump declares being a millennial illegal because he saw a meme mentioning them or whatever.


[01-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Midknight#9798
Trump: millennials are whiners, and vapists... and I *assume* some are good people (if they vote for me)


[01-Feb-20 08:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480792-conservative-groups-call-on-trump-to-scrap-looming-drug-price-move

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Conservative groups call on Trump administration to scrap looming ...
Opponents of a controversial Trump administration move to lower drug prices are ramping up their messaging efforts against the proposal as they brace for its possible release.
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[01-Feb-20 08:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/480943-sanders-campaign-hits-dnc-over-new-debate-criteria-the-definition-of-a

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Democrats come out swinging against DNC over new debate criteria: ...
A number of 2020 Democrats came out swinging against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Friday after it unveiled new debate qualifications that could open a path for former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to secure a spot on stage.
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[01-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Midknight#9798
as they should


[01-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Midknight#9798
ffs


[01-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Midknight#9798
get old man dunderberg back to his swimming pool of gold coins before he wrecks things


[01-Feb-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives: drug prices are out of control!


[01-Feb-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
also conservatives: don't try to lower the drug prices!


[01-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's like conservatives like to state obvious problems, but never want to actually fix them


[01-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole idea is to always blame problems on minorities


[01-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
while actively causing said problems.


[01-Feb-20 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481000-comey-pens-op-ed-saying-us-democracy-wont-come-apart-if-trump-isnt

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Comey op-ed: US democracy won't 'come apart' if Trump isn't remove...
Former FBI Director James Comey penned an op-ed in The Washington Post Friday maintaining that the U.S. won’t unravel even if President Trump is not removed from office.
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[01-Feb-20 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3bmjx/mike-bloomberg-gave-the-dnc-dollar300000-two-days-before-he-entered-the-race

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Mike Bloomberg Gave the DNC $300K Two Days Before He Entered the 2...
And now the DNC is changing its rules in a way very favorable to ... Mike Bloomberg.
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[01-Feb-20 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he pulled a hillary...


[01-Feb-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480979-cpac-romney-formally-not-invited-this-year

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CPAC says Romney 'not invited' this year after vote at Trump trial
Leaders of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on Friday night formally disinvited Sen.
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[01-Feb-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/480766-tennessee-state-lawmaker-introduces-resolution-to-recognize-cnn

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Tennessee state lawmaker offers resolution to 'recognize' CNN, Was...
A Tennessee state lawmaker introduced a resolution that would “recognize” CNN and The Washington Post as “fake news.”
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[01-Feb-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/key-impeachment-witness-marie-yovanovitch-retires-from-state-department-2020-1

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Key witness in the impeachment inquiry Marie Yovanovitch retires f...
Yovanovitch emerged as a key witness in the impeachment inquiry after she was ousted as ambassador amid Trump's shadow diplomacy in Ukraine.
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[01-Feb-20 02:40 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump may have gained power but lost political case https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/senate-trial-trump-may-have-gained-power-lost-political-case-n1128066

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In Senate trial, Trump may have gained power but lost political case
Analysis: It's hard for the president to cast himself as the victim of a system that looks rigged by him — especially after GOP senators say he's guilty.
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[01-Feb-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480975-senate-to-take-break-plans-final-impeachment-vote-wednesday

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Final impeachment vote postponed to Wednesday amid internal  GOP spat
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has postponed a final vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump until Wednesday in the face of opposition from Senate GOP moderates to his plan to wrap up the trial Friday or S
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[01-Feb-20 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump will continue to play the victim card, but it;s essentially been diced into tiny, tiny pieces by this whole affair


[01-Feb-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/politics/donald-trump-john-bolton-white-house-book/index.html

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White House has issued formal threat to Bolton to keep him from pu...
The White House has issued a formal threat to former national security adviser John Bolton to keep him from publishing his book, "The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir," sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.
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[01-Feb-20 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
> <https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480792-conservative-groups-call-on-trump-to-scrap-looming-drug-price-move>
wow, the president did something good for once


[01-Feb-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/addybaird/trump-impeachment-trial-republicans-ukraine-fine-aquit

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Republicans Now Say Trump Did What He Was Accused Of — They Just...
"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
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[01-Feb-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
jesus fuckin' christ man


[01-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
> But, Alexander argued, even if the president did it, the decision of what to do about it should be left to voters in the 2020 election. “The Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate,” he wrote.
> 
> Alexander wasn’t alone in that opinion. “Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office,” Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said in a statement Friday.
> 
> Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio echoed that line, saying in a statement of his own, “I believe that some of the president’s actions in this case — asking a foreign country to investigate a potential political opponent and the delay of aid to Ukraine — were wrong and inappropriate.”
> 
> But, Portman went on to say, “I do not believe the president’s actions rise to the level of removing a duly-elected president from office and taking him off the ballot in the middle of an election.”


[01-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
> “Every public official I know believes that his election is in the public interest. And mostly you’re right,” White House lawyer Alan Dershowitz told senators. “Your election is in the public interest. And if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment.”


[01-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
reminder


[01-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
that dershowitz went full retard


[01-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
> **“Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office,” Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said in a statement Friday.**


[01-Feb-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
translation:*We know he has to be removed but we worry if he is, it might ruin our re-electability during this election season. So we refuse to remove him because we would rather have a slim chance at re-election than actually doing our fucking job*


[01-Feb-20 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
rubeio


[01-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/480914-epa-reapproves-roundup-pesticide

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EPA re-approves key Roundup chemical
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has re-approved a chemical used in Bayer's Roundup weed killer despite concerns over its health risks.
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[01-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/480937-krystal-ball-differences-between-biden-and-sanders-represents-epic-generational

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Krystal Ball: Differences between Biden and Sanders represents 'ep...
Hill.TV host Krystal Ball weighed in on the rivalry between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) as the two front-runners make their final pitches to Iowa voters ahead of Monday's caucuses.
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[01-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
at this rate, lead paint will be allowed by the end of 2020


[01-Feb-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
leaded gasoline


[01-Feb-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
tetraethyllead


[01-Feb-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/05/trumps-epa-moves-to-defund-programs-that-protect-children-from-lead/


[01-Feb-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-announces-strategy-protect-children-lead-exposure/story?id=59908194

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Trump administration announces priorities to end lead exposure, bu...
The Trump administration announced a long-awaited update to the federal strategy to protect kids from exposure to lead, which can cause devastating health problems.
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[01-Feb-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump: "I ate paint chips as a kid and look at me, I'm president"


[01-Feb-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
so those defunded programs had obama's name on them


[01-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
so trump defunded them and announced a new program with his name on it, only he had no plans of actually enforcing it


[01-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
literally dangerous levels of narcissism


[01-Feb-20 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/MVV9dTl721

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U.S. killed a top al-Qaida leader in Yemen, reports say
Reports indicate a top al-Qaida leader was killed by a U.S. strike in Yemen.
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[01-Feb-20 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Ahh shit, here we go again


[01-Feb-20 05:22 PM] Opponent#3498
```Trump: "I ate paint chips as a kid and look at me, I'm president"```


[01-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
that's literally THE American Dream


[01-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
ANYONE can rise to the top. Provided he was born the right way.


[01-Feb-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
And then Trump said: Lead them eat paint!


[01-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480964-house-to-vote-on-disapproval-resolution-of-medicaid-block-grants

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House to vote on disapproval resolution of Medicaid block grants
The House will vote next week on a resolution to disapprove of the Trump administration’s new Medicaid block grant plan, Democratic leaders announced Friday.
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[01-Feb-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let them EAT PANT


[01-Feb-20 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1223542342092644355

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wint (@dril)
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I Am Your Slave Madam President!  I'll Always Protect You!
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[01-Feb-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads-amp/893123/nigerians-are-americas-best-educated-immigrant-groups-trump-just-banned

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Nigerians are one of America's best educated immigrant groups. Tru...
On Friday, the Trump administration announced a new wave in its blanket bans on people from certain countries. And this time around, it includes one particularly vulnerable group — and one that tends to be very successful once it arrives in the U.S.
President Trump's origin...
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[01-Feb-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Just the typical old racism


[01-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kaymtye/status/1223310647703662592

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Kay Tye (@kaymtye)
https://twitter.com/kaymtye/status/1223310647703662592
My great grandfather had the monopoly of eggs in all of China and my grandmother was super rich living in a mansion when the cultural revolution happened and communism took everything away.

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[01-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They then fled to America, went to MIT, got PhDs, and worked in academia.


[01-Feb-20 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Revolution in America now, just to throw these haute bougie refugee families into chaos again for trying to act like the most oppressed of victims


[01-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed no one in the comments went super edgy.


[01-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I'm sure owning all the eggs in China, at the time an agrarian economy, was done completely legitimately


[01-Feb-20 07:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
Certainly not because they buddied up with the Republican government or some foreign investor to get the capital to capture that sort of infrastructure.


[01-Feb-20 07:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Though a part of me wants to say this may perhaps be an exageration.


[01-Feb-20 07:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like they only owned all the eggs in Shanghai or Nanking.


[01-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
yeah... that tweet is a yikes


[01-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
literally starting out the entire chain with exactly the correct reason to not have capitalism


[01-Feb-20 07:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
And that was all of China to them, like how London is all of England, or New York is all of America that matters, or Paris to France, or Cairo to Egypt.


[01-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/coso9001/status/1223404212966625285

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@kaymtye looks like he was doing a terrible job tbf
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[01-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/iammightor/status/1223406004936806401

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ian mighty (@iammightor)
https://twitter.com/iammightor/status/1223406004936806401
@kaymtye thank you for saying this. My grandfather hoarded all the insulin in Burkina Faso until commies dropped a big giant “100 ton” weight on him and he had to come to England.
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[01-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Burkina Faso dropped communism and became another sub Saharan kleptocracy


[01-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
what's this a reference to?


[01-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The original post


[01-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
> until commies dropped a big giant “100 ton” weight on him


[01-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
this part


[01-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
is this a joke?


[01-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[01-Feb-20 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
>Burkina Faso dropped communism


[01-Feb-20 08:05 PM] ononim#8141
more like WTO dropped it for them


[01-Feb-20 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
correction World Bank and IMF, for some reason I thought WTO stood for world bank


[01-Feb-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
disappointing it's not called the world trade foundation


[01-Feb-20 08:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7afrique

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Fran%C3%A7afrique
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[01-Feb-20 08:22 PM] ononim#8141
> The foreign exchange reserves of member countries are pooled and each of the two African central banks keeps 65% of its foreign reserves with the French Treasury.


[01-Feb-20 08:22 PM] ononim#8141
*Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm*


[01-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it's reasonable though. The next 'president' that comes by can very well just storm the central bank and take the cash for himself.


[01-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
France is less likely to do that.


[01-Feb-20 08:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1223640662689689602?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1223640662689689602?s=21
Getting a little exercise this morning!
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[01-Feb-20 08:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Ew


[01-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Honahue#0656

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[01-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
oh hi honahue


[01-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
:honk:


[01-Feb-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Feb-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/01/801000605/as-regulations-roll-back-could-clean-water-protection-business-dry-up\

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As Regulations Roll Back, Could Clean Water Protection Business Dr...
The Trump administration is stripping clean water protections put in place by President Barack Obama, and some in the industry worry that the regulatory changes will threaten their business.
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[01-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.stonekettle.com/2020/01/stalking-horse.html?spref=tw

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Stalking Horse
Entities should not be multiplied without necessity. -- Occam’s Razor   The Senate is going to sell us out today.  The Senate, led by Mitch...
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[01-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, conservatives don't care that Trump is evil, as long as he lets them be openly racist; he is a tool, that's why they are keeping him in office. Liberals who think Republicans "sold out" and aren't just complete sociopaths playing the game well are morons who havn't learned from history.


[01-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you especially should take this to heart.


[01-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll admit I have difficulty understanding how the mind of this kind of person works


[01-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not worth burning everything down just so you can say slurs


[01-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say the slur and deal with the consequences


[02-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing is that they don't want there to be consequences, or even people with different opinions


[02-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of burning things down is to remove the consequences.


[02-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLcsaRXpVw

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Key & Peele
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Someone’s Gotta Say It - Key & Peele
Two pals at a bar unload with some controversial opinions about various minorities.
 
About Key & Peele: 
Key & Peele showcases the fearless wit of stars Keegan-Michael Key and Jordan Peele as the duo takes on everything from "Gremlins 2" to systemic racism. With an array of ...
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[02-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On the comment about wanting to say the n word to a black mans face, that's half the matter


[02-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't want the black man to be allowed to be mad


[02-Feb-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/kmlefranc/status/1221869659139366912

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bruise almighty (@kmlefranc)
https://twitter.com/kmlefranc/status/1221869659139366912
I had to get a background check for my job, and it turns out the report is a 300+ page pdf of every single tweet I’ve ever liked with the work “fuck” in it. 

Enjoy your dystopian bs! *waves*
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[02-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, they don't want the blakk man to win a lawsuit over it.


[02-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or worse, a woman.


[02-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The blakks they can easily keep out of white society. Women are another matter.


[02-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the ERA ratification's a big deal.


[02-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man imagine this scenario


[02-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems keep the House


[02-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Collins, Gardner lose, seat picked up in AZ but lost in AL


[02-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Trump is re elected


[02-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and Tillis loses


[02-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just imagine a Dem House and Senate but Trump


[02-Feb-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, they would likely move for impeachment right then and there if trump and the GOP senate haven't just wiped the proverbial hard drive clean and ceded all senatorial powers to trump


[02-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[02-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would basically bring votes of no confidence into the system


[02-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd put in place judges to completely stop the executive from doing anything.


[02-Feb-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they'd just try to pass bill after bill in the hopes Trump signs some.


[02-Feb-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
satire < reality


[02-Feb-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
in this administration


[02-Feb-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate really is in play this year


[02-Feb-20 12:48 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/rudy-giuliani-posted-celebratory-pics-of-him-sucking-on-cigars-after-gop-blocked-impeachment-witnesses/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Rudy Giuliani posted celebratory pics of him sucking on cigars aft...
Rudy Giuliani took a victory lap on Saturday after the U.S. Senate voted against allowing witnesses to testify in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial. Giuliani works as Trump’s personal lawyer, but was not selected as an attorney representing him in the impeachment...
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[02-Feb-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He was shortly found there after with 2 bullet holes in the back of his skull, officers ruled it a suicide. Trump ruled it as some guy he'd never met before.


[02-Feb-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie no hope for the next decade in US politics right?


[02-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is hope


[02-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to vote.


[02-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are trying to kill Democracy.


[02-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
So, no witnesses in a trial... How does that work exactly?


[02-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the prosecution says they're guilty, the defense says they're guilty, then the jury says not guilty.


[02-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Star Chamber


[02-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More boring than a president but imagine the next impeached judge


[02-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate removes judges consistently


[02-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes it harder now


[02-Feb-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are the first primary votes only in iowa or can i vote over here in north carolina


[02-Feb-20 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Feb-20 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Okay, this is epic


[02-Feb-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont entirely get it


[02-Feb-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481029-behind-the-scenes-of-the-closing-impeachment-drama

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Behind the scenes of McConnell's impeachment drama
Mitch McConnell had to quell a revolt in the Senate Republican Conference on Friday after he floated a proposal to extend President Trump’s trial into a third week.
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[02-Feb-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481006-state-dept-bans-tanzanian-official-over-anti-gay-crackdown

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State Dept. bans Tanzanian official who led anti-gay crackdown
The State Department has banned a Tanzanian official who launched a crackdown on homosexuality in Dar es Salaam in 2018 from visiting the U.S.
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[02-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) while most Republicans are sociopaths, not all are, and many that are are also fearing they just lost the election.


[02-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell is trying to whip them bakk into shape.


[02-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know they've just armed the detonator on their party.


[02-Feb-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They've gambled basically all their chips on Trump


[02-Feb-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/01/gop-doesnt-deserve-survive-this-debacle/


[02-Feb-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
This guy's name is "Max Boot"


[02-Feb-20 02:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
So us Trump not gonna get put in a peach


[02-Feb-20 02:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
*is


[02-Feb-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
The orange has already been turned into a peach


[02-Feb-20 02:16 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
:nut:


[02-Feb-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He has become peach, but tree has not ejected peach


[02-Feb-20 02:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie huh. I thought Republicans are atm basically invincible given boomerism remains alive and well for the next decade or so.


[02-Feb-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depends entirely on voter turn out and the DNC not fucking this up


[02-Feb-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course the DNC basically being a corporate board of directors right now makes that fuck up entirely possible as they try to profit a bottom line instead of actually planning


[02-Feb-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are entirely thinking with their swiss bank accounts right now and not with their heads


[02-Feb-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's part of why they changed the rules for bloomberg because he can offer them cash for their rigging, whether or not he actually plans to become president is a different question, but they;re willing to go for a candidate if the candidate can fill their pockets


[02-Feb-20 02:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
did trump give them money to not do that ?


[02-Feb-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Bloomberg gave them a ton of money


[02-Feb-20 02:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wow


[02-Feb-20 02:49 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
corruption at its finest


[02-Feb-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm rooting for Bloomberg to split the Biden vote


[02-Feb-20 02:50 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I fucking hate our government


[02-Feb-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would love that hubris to be the DNC's undoing and for Sanders (or Warren, though it's much less likely at this point) to take the lead


[02-Feb-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, though, at this point I'll take anything, even Biden


[02-Feb-20 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even if Biden goes full boomer it'll put moderate Republicans in a prickly position


[02-Feb-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would be reluctant but if i had to vote biden to remove Trump, then so be it


[02-Feb-20 02:54 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dont like any of the of the people running


[02-Feb-20 02:54 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
tbh


[02-Feb-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I love Sanders


[02-Feb-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like bernie, a lot of his ideas have been tested through other countries and done remarkably well


[02-Feb-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason they clash with current america is because bottom line is everything right now, and that needs to change


[02-Feb-20 03:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) commiephobia


[02-Feb-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will put on a karl marx mask and become the boogie man of capitalists if i have to


[02-Feb-20 03:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/gold-standard-poll-of-iowa-caucuses-not-released-as-scheduled-out-of-an-abundance-of-caution/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Gold standard’ poll of Iowa Caucuses not released as schedule...
The highly anticipated Des Moines Register/CNN/Medicom survey of likely Iowa Democratic caucus-goers was not released on Saturday evening. CNN politico reporter David Chalian said that “out of an abundance of caution” the poll will not be released after one person surveye...


[02-Feb-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy, I wonder who it was. If it was klobuchar or someone, that's an oops. If it was Bloomberg, that's...eyebrow-raising. If it was *Sanders....*


[02-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A brokered convention is never good


[02-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't want 1968


[02-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though I think once it's clear Warren has no path they'll all go to Sanders


[02-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Biden won't be able to handle that


[02-Feb-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention biden has to compete with a rapidly catching up bloomburg


[02-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/clVsLNJIahs

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Whit Emory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clVsLNJIahs
Any female born after 1993 by Bernie Sanders
Thank you Bernie, very cool!
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[02-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
wtf I hate Bernie now


[02-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not far from the truth tho


[02-Feb-20 03:39 AM] illumnious#7938
the fuck


[02-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[02-Feb-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/trump-ukraine-aid-emails-omb-justice-department/index.html

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Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about ...
The Department of Justice revealed in a court filing late Friday that it has two dozen emails related to President Donald Trump's involvement in the withholding of millions in security assistance to Ukraine -- a disclosure that came just hours after the Senate voted against s...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200131112848-106-trump-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[02-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
... you think that women born after 1993 can't cook?


[02-Feb-20 03:46 AM] illumnious#7938
jesus Bernie


[02-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a deepfake


[02-Feb-20 03:50 AM] illumnious#7938
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/iowa-2020-final-sprint/h_135182d3bc42b2f824686fedf84b016e

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CNN and Des Moines Register will not release final Iowa poll
It's the last weekend before the Iowa caucuses. Follow here for live updates.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200131124509-04-elizabeth-warren-iowa-0126-super-tease.jpg


[02-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
A deepfake of a meme intended to parody boomer sexism, no less.


[02-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Warren logo, again, reminds me of what Bruce Wayne running for president would look like


[02-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same font would be used


[02-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...was that ever a Batman plot


[02-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Superman


[02-Feb-20 04:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ROHLL5/status/1223688865791148032

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Rena⭐️⭐️⭐️ Text TRUMP 88022 (@ROHLL5)
https://twitter.com/ROHLL5/status/1223688865791148032
@PlaysTrumpCard @Lrihendry @realDonaldTrump @AnthemRespect @bfraser747 @atensnut @CarmineSabia @oUSA_JEDIo @carrieksada @Text88022 We are most Respected Country in the world b/c of .@realDonaldTrump 

💪👏🙏🙌💯👇👇👇

🔺 Most Gorgeous Wife, Our First Lad...
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Twitter


[02-Feb-20 04:00 AM] illumnious#7938
*Most Gorgeous Wife, Our First Lady 
🔺 Lowest Unemployment 
🔺 Lower Taxes
🔺 Built The Wall
🔺 Trade Deals 
🔺 Strengthen our military*


[02-Feb-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
surrrre, you mean the one who can't stand her husband tweeting shit on Twitter and still miserable in the mirage, that one?


[02-Feb-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who this is


[02-Feb-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they use way too many hash tags though and they  appear to have been infected by the trump scam virus


[02-Feb-20 04:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_jHviSHykI&list=FLt1VyW4yPRt_JzLHYJSbySw&index=766

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FOX 10 Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_jHviSHykI
This Is What Happens When Protesters Try To Block Donald Trump = FNN
Brought to you by Desert Diamond: http://ddcaz.com

Protesters blocked Donald Trump's entrance to the CAGOP Convention site so his team had to improvise.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I_jHviSHykI/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Feb-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, now we know an effective strategy for getting the president out of a rolling bunker, I guess


[02-Feb-20 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm really surprised that news helicopter wasn't redirected by the secret service


[02-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, FOX affiliate, so probably has higher clearance than police


[02-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow I never said it's exactly the truth, i.e. nobody ever can cook, but, yeah. That's in my experience the general tendency.


[02-Feb-20 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0x52BbeF9Y

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0x52BbeF9Y
Trump Downplays Soldier Brain Injuries He Caused as "Headaches"
--Donald Trump downplays traumatic brain injuries suffered recently by American military service-members as "headaches"
🔊 Want to read 5 books in one sitting? Try Blinkist for free → http://www.blinkist.com/pakman

Iran attacked multiple US bases in retribution for the a...
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[02-Feb-20 04:31 AM] jlun2#8758
why are there not more deepfakes of Republicans saying things


[02-Feb-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well people dont need to deep fake trump, he already deepfakes himself


[02-Feb-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
wheres more deep fake of Mark Suckerberg saying he'll be the next god of America


[02-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Opponent#3498
you literally cannot make Trump worse than he is naturally


[02-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP has to do deepfakes of Trump pressers to tone down his crazy


[02-Feb-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would love some zuckerberg deep fakes of those memes


[02-Feb-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the anime magazine meme


[02-Feb-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
whatever trump says from Mark's mouth


[02-Feb-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if someone could just dub over zuckerberg with lines from  lore from star trek, that wouldbe great


[02-Feb-20 04:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4l9PzdILw

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4l9PzdILw
Who Cares If Our Country is Divided? It Should Be
--Audience Question: Who cares if our country is politically polarized?

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[02-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Deepfake Zuck into Data


[02-Feb-20 04:43 AM] illumnious#7938
deepfake


[02-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[02-Feb-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
i need the link


[02-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/lucianwintrich/status/891445109929246720

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Lucian B. Wintrich (@lucianwintrich)
https://twitter.com/lucianwintrich/status/891445109929246720
They break into our country, steal  resources, then do shit like this. And libs still wonder why we are pushing for immigration controls...
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[02-Feb-20 04:57 AM] illumnious#7938
geez


[02-Feb-20 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geʽez

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[02-Feb-20 05:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
geez


[02-Feb-20 05:04 AM] jlun2#8758
They probably completely serious thought white people are the true native Americans.


[02-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/trump-ukraine-aid-emails-omb-justice-department/index.html

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Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about ...
The Department of Justice revealed in a court filing late Friday that it has two dozen emails related to President Donald Trump's involvement in the withholding of millions in security assistance to Ukraine -- a disclosure that came just hours after the Senate voted against s...
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[02-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can be FOIAd I hope


[02-Feb-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Like they'd comply


[02-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably give out several sheets of just one big black rectangle


[02-Feb-20 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-pundits-focus-fix-trump-gop-not-democrats-2020-1

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'Never Trump' Republicans should stop giving advice to the 2020 De...
Conservative pundits keep suggesting ways the Democrats can be more palatable to Republican voters. Maybe they should look in the mirror first.
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[02-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[02-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think it's more important NOW to get republicans to switch than to depose Trump internally


[02-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the latter is an impossible task


[02-Feb-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/480980-democrats-look-to-ramp-up-fight-over-trumps-war-powers

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Democrats look to ramp up fight over Trump's war powers
A pair of House-passed bills seeking to rein in President Trump on Iran are dead on arrival in the Senate, but Democrats say the fight over the issue is not over.
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[02-Feb-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/legislation/481036-bill-banning-certain-inappropriate-content-draws-backlash-in-missouri

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Missouri bill banning certain 'inappropriate' books draws backlash
A Missouri House representative introduced a bill in January that would allow the banning of specific books from the state's libraries and includes threats of misdemeanor charges for failure to comply.
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[02-Feb-20 02:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> The arc of history is bending against the GOP, and the Democrats will be in power soon enough.
By the time enough boomers die for that to matter, the next generations become old and start spontaneously vote Republican, and the cycle repeats.


[02-Feb-20 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not sure that's true


[02-Feb-20 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Experience defines political leaning, not age


[02-Feb-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not how aging works


[02-Feb-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that was how aging works, sanders wouldnt exist


[02-Feb-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s usualy wealth and experience that effects voters not age


[02-Feb-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanders worked hard for the money he has now and fought in a lot of civil rights battles. He understands why wealth isn't everything and knows why the country is in dire need of reform. Trump was handed his money from daddy and the russian mafia, and he has the narcfissism of soemone who was just handed everything in life


[02-Feb-20 03:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/newscomauHQ/status/1222703406164238336

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A man has collapsed and died outside a restaurant in Sydney’s Chinatown after bystanders reportedly failed to perform CPR out of fears of coronavirus.
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[02-Feb-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, this is turning into the gays all over again


[02-Feb-20 03:18 PM] Opponent#3498
CPR is almost useless anyway so it's w/e


[02-Feb-20 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Don't touch him, you might get the aids"


[02-Feb-20 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he died of suffocation, CPR would have probably saved his life


[02-Feb-20 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
fair.


[02-Feb-20 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
not enough context to tell.


[02-Feb-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it says it was a suspected cardiac arrest, so CPR would have probably worked there too


[02-Feb-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this happens whenever a virus is tied to the reputation of a specific race, or sexuality.


[02-Feb-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s spreading fast in china, therefore it must suddenly be retroactively hereditary and every place, person, and object relating to china must be infected with it


[02-Feb-20 03:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who knows tho


[02-Feb-20 03:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He could've been someone from China who got there before the travel bans


[02-Feb-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-iowa-biofuels/iowas-anger-over-trumps-ethanol-policy-gives-democrats-opening-idUSKBN1ZW05Q

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Iowa's anger over Trump's ethanol policy gives Democrats opening
In a speech last month to farmers in Texas, President Donald Trump won applause ...
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[02-Feb-20 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/72q1z6cxxfe41

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“No, I will not yield!” (6/4/1992)
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[02-Feb-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson)
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Hm starting to notice a pattern here
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[02-Feb-20 04:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1223839756234215424?s=21 woah, you sound like a kid Trump

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Mini Mike is now negotiating both to get on the Democrat Primary debate stage, and to have the right to stand on boxes, or a lift, during the debates. This is sometimes done, but really not fair!
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[02-Feb-20 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he just call a heightboost at a podium unfair?


[02-Feb-20 04:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[02-Feb-20 04:40 PM] byte[]#2610
the actual fuck


[02-Feb-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does he think that his height boosting insoles are still invisible to everyone?


[02-Feb-20 04:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1223837731056427009?s=21

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Many of the ads you are watching were paid for by Mini Mike Bloomberg. He is going nowhere, just wasting his money, but he is getting the DNC to rig the election against Crazy Bernie, something they wouldn’t do for @CoryBooker and others. They are doing it to Bernie agai...
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[02-Feb-20 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were kinda doing it for biden


[02-Feb-20 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m surprised cory booker's name doesnt have a gradeschool insult attached


[02-Feb-20 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh he finally came up with a nickname for Sanders


[02-Feb-20 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
"Crazy Bernie"


[02-Feb-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought he used that in 2016


[02-Feb-20 04:46 PM] illumnious#7938
He did


[02-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Hm, I didn't remember it then


[02-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Does he have one for Pelosi?


[02-Feb-20 04:49 PM] illumnious#7938
pocahontas


[02-Feb-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
that's Warren


[02-Feb-20 04:50 PM] illumnious#7938
oh


[02-Feb-20 04:51 PM] illumnious#7938
crazy


[02-Feb-20 04:51 PM] illumnious#7938
@byte[]

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[02-Feb-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
interesting


[02-Feb-20 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
here's the list of names tho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

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List of nicknames used by Donald Trump
United States president, businessman, and television personality Donald Trump became widely known during the 2016 United States presidential election and his subsequent presidency for using nicknames to criticize or otherwise express commentary about media figures, politician...


[02-Feb-20 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
what a childish president we got


[02-Feb-20 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> He also called Bernie "the nutty professor"


[02-Feb-20 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds kinda charming


[02-Feb-20 04:55 PM] illumnious#7938
the nutty professor?


[02-Feb-20 04:56 PM] illumnious#7938
that is something


[02-Feb-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ther's a reason we call him a school yard bully


[02-Feb-20 04:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1223987448742666241

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#INCIDENT A man has been shot by armed officers in #Streatham. At this stage it is believed a number of people have been stabbed. The circumstances are being assessed; the incident has been declared as terrorist-related. Please follow @metpoliceuk for updates
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[02-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i like to call trump "lord damp nut"


[02-Feb-20 04:57 PM] illumnious#7938
I called him a useless asshole baby


[02-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cadet bone spurs


[02-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the toddler triumphant


[02-Feb-20 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pharaoh Trump


[02-Feb-20 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what his name would be in hieroglyphics


[02-Feb-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the golden baby


[02-Feb-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
oh my god he called Ann Coulter a "wacky nut job"


[02-Feb-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[02-Feb-20 05:00 PM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Feb-20 05:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Very Fake News???


[02-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they said something very mean about him that week


[02-Feb-20 05:01 PM] illumnious#7938
do tell


[02-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was a joke, about how news networks that dont sing his praises get labeled fake news


[02-Feb-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
I wonder who that was

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[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old grey lady?


[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
yep


[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man he's so smooth with his puns


[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
that one


[02-Feb-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
/s


[02-Feb-20 05:09 PM] illumnious#7938
> that's Warren
@byte[] there are more names than Pocahontas dear

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[02-Feb-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
*Uber Left Elizabeth Warren*


[02-Feb-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
the fuck


[02-Feb-20 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
last one

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[02-Feb-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at some point he's going to start calling himself god


[02-Feb-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing his sense of timing, that point will be sometime this year


[02-Feb-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also they need to add "king of isreal" and "second coming of God" to that list of nicknames he;s given himself


[02-Feb-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/donald-trump-king-of-israel

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Trump Declares Himself “King of Israel,” the “Second Coming ...
The president is sick of “disloyal” American Jews, who apparently don’t know what’s good for them. But “Jewish people in Israel love him,” according to the crazed conspiracy theorist Trump quoted on Twitter.
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[02-Feb-20 05:26 PM] illumnious#7938
oh the king of Israel my ass


[02-Feb-20 05:26 PM] illumnious#7938
second coming of God my ass as well


[02-Feb-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in all his gaudyness i;m surprised he doesnt wear a gold suit and tie


[02-Feb-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again knowing him, he probably tried to gold plate a suit and got frustrated when it made it into a statue instead of decorative clothing


[02-Feb-20 05:31 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[02-Feb-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) appropriate that the publication name is "Vanity Fair"


[02-Feb-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481056-justice-department-reveals-blocking-24-emails-in-court-filing-about

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DOJ reveals 24 redacted emails related to Trump's involvement in U...
The Department of Justice reportedly said in a court filing just hours after the Senate voted against subpoenaing additional witnesses and documents in President Trump's impeachment trial that it has two dozen emails related to his involvemen
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[02-Feb-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://lenta.ru/news/2019/12/20/terpimost/

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В российской школе урок о терпимост...
В Челябинске школьный урок, посвященный толерантному отношению к приверженцам разных религий, обернулся травлей единственной некрещеной ученицы. На ...
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[02-Feb-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
```In Chelyabinsk's school, Russia, lesson about religious tolerance ended in mass bulling of the only non baptized girl```


[02-Feb-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
🤡 🤡 🤡


[02-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yup. Christians in a nutshell.


[02-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
this seems to be a major difference between modern Russia and it's 'traditional values' i.e. merge between state and church, and Ukraine. We don't get this kinda bullshit


[02-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
whether in form of mandatory school lessons or situations like these.


[02-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I suppose it still could happen probably, but the odds of that are much lower.


[02-Feb-20 07:29 PM] ononim#8141
yeah Ukraine is lucky in this case with it being less easy for Church and State to prop each other up


[02-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/opinion/sanders-bernie-bros.html

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Opinion | Bernie’s Angry Bros
The Sanders online army resembles President Trump’s most ardent supporters in more ways than either side might care to admit.
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[02-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"But it also goes to the heart of what the Bernie Bros are really about. As they see it, ordinary civility isn’t a virtue. It’s a ruse by which those with power manipulate and marginalize those without."


[02-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes. Now fuck off.


[02-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare the common folk see truth.


[02-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Return to your fields, peasant.


[02-Feb-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1223344677568634880

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Gun rights activists carrying semi-automatic firearms walk through the Capitol Building on January 31, 2020 in Frankfort, Kentucky. 📷: @woolstonphoto
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[02-Feb-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez that's some bad optics


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be really fukking illegal to not giv people sikk leave.


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like lokk your ass up in jail for public health hazards illegal.


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like DESTROY YOUR FUKKING BUSINESS ENTIRELY illegal.


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't giv sikk leave? That location closes permanently.


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But no


[02-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
boomers.


[02-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly


[02-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
pass a law in every major city


[02-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of your locations in the city refuses sikk leave and doesn't hav a damn good explanation


[02-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
all locations in the city must close for 10 years.


[02-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And be stolen by the state and demolished.


[02-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Companies should operate in FEAR of the government.


[02-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intense fear.


[02-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the same boomers that complain when people are sick and working


[02-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they buy the fallacy that no bad man would succeed at a business


[02-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
they think their complaints matter more than the law.


[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most businesses succeed today because they;re run by complete psychopaths


[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and guess what


[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
that happened cause of a lawsuit by a city


[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-starbucks-new-york-settlement/starbucks-settles-new-york-probe-into-illegal-sick-leave-policy-idUSKBN1YN2H5

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Starbucks settles New York probe into illegal sick leave policy
Starbucks Corp agreed on Thursday to pay restitution and accept greater oversigh...
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[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it only gave seven or eight days a year


[02-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The flu lasts 2 weeks.


[02-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can get the flu and also another illness easily in 1 year.


[02-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, barista loses 2 weeks of work, has exhausted all sikk days from the flu.


[02-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can't use any more the rest of the year


[02-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
gets stomach flu, shits herself on the job and infects others for some misery spreading


[02-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
then later gets coronavirus


[02-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus spreads all over NY


[02-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then people wonder why it's all over NY


[02-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Boomers are **scum**.


[02-Feb-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374891193139462145/673575010505457674/EPpU0FIUwAA7LJJ.png

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[02-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
Papa's blessings must spread.


[02-Feb-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea of quantified sick days is the stupidest fucking thing to me


[02-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's because Boomers will use them to take time off when not sikk


[02-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Boomer bosses quantify to force rationing.


[02-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if the state doesn't say anything, that's that.


[02-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How did the Silents raise such a totally morally corrupt generation


[02-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
By being Silent.


[02-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
No really, that's the problem.


[02-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers were out partying and shitting things up while their Silent parents didn't say shit.


[02-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The economy was good, so nobody worried.


[02-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
When Boomers grew up, they easily outvoted Silents


[02-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did you watch the video of the Tory Boomer explaining cohort effects yesterday, @Itsthinking?


[02-Feb-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I did not


[02-Feb-20 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't see it


[02-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[02-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bit long, but it's **very** important to understand thoroughly.


[02-Feb-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Jesus, and this guy is a Tory


[02-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, that's why he's proposing stopgap shitty solutions.


[02-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just giv them 10k pounds when they turn 25, that'll get them a house!


[02-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, no


[02-Feb-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish that's how that works but no


[02-Feb-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
watching this video has given me a headache


[02-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
As the YT comments put it "so boomers are locusts, got it"


[02-Feb-20 09:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/heres-a-roadmap-for-fixing-the-broken-impeachment-process-conservative-columnist/?utm_source=push_notifications

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The impeachment process was supposed to be a moment that would call upon the better angels of all Senators to rise above the non-stop partisan debate to honor the constitutional values of the United States. But in that case, the rules outlined by the founding fathers failed A...
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[02-Feb-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
turns out, senators value reelection more than honesty


[02-Feb-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
who woulda thunk it


[02-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The craziest part is the pensions, thing, btw.


[02-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Tory Boomer says it very softly but like, if you follow the implications


[02-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
he is saying that Boomers robbed the retirement funds of the Silents during Thatcher


[02-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and THEN robbed Millennials of theirs later.


[02-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's asymmetric.


[02-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that young people steal away the pensions of the old.


[02-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's that Boomers steal away the pensions of everyone else.


[02-Feb-20 09:16 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o1gJc91tuQ

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Man EXPOSES Dystopian 300+ Page BACKGROUND CHECK On His Social Med...
Man receives a 300+ page background check after applying for a job exposing all of his tweets and social media posts online with technology powered by AI. We're living in a nightmarish Big Tech dystopia.
Support the Channel: https://www.patreon.com/MROBVIOUS 
SubscribeStar: h...
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[02-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
A huge generation of people raised to not care about anyone but themselves.


[02-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are locusts.


[02-Feb-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
it is dystopian, yes


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not new, though


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But "justified"


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Watched the vid for 10 seconds


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was incorrect


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224064206535843843?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224064206535843843?s=21
My @SuperBowl Interview at 3:30 P.M. on @foxnetworks. Enjoy!
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[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Been seeing people complaining about these checks for a decade


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It said "made", not "liked"


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
there is a big distinction.


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm just waiting for the boos


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The latter is far worse.


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
"It's gonna be fine…"
"It won't be that bad"
"It's just a conspiracy theory"
"Be nice"


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just looking at tweets he wrote


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was looking at tweets he **liked**


[02-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in his damn preferences.


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That is an issue


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing's an issue, and I don't need some talking head YTer to tell me.


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Screw that alt-right noise.


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Especially when we are supposed to be living in a society that supposedly protects freedom of expression and association


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You lakk perspective in the extreme.


[02-Feb-20 09:19 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
We're not allowed to have preferences


[02-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Freedom of expression and association are things you hav from the gov't, not businesses.


[02-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes this is shitty, but you're approaching it wrong.


[02-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that businesses are allowed to fire/not hire you for basically any reason in most states.


[02-Feb-20 09:20 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There needs to be fundemental changes. especially now that businesses operate like pseudo-governmental organizations


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they use this to exert influence in societal taboo terms.


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That needs to change


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
What you should be thinking of is "right to work" stuff


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
and how it should be thrown out and burned


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like communism to me but ok


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Regulate businesses. They should ONLY test on what matters for the job.


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
businesses giv people IQ tests


[02-Feb-20 09:21 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
This whole corporatist ideal needs overhaul


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
IQ tests except for the military are literally illegal as a condition of hiring.


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses do them anyways because nobody sues.


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
If  people of colour, genders, sexual orientation and religion are protected. So should political association


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those things aren't equivalent.


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Why is that left out


[02-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're also missing the bigger picture.


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
What "bigger picture"?


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political association is a choice and action you take.


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The bigger picture is that businesses are abusing their freedom of who not to hire.


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
So places can ostracize me for being a conservative?


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes.


[02-Feb-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
we're doing it right now


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the bigger picture is that businesses are caring too much about non-job-related things


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they do this not necessarily because they don't like conservatives or such


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That's true'


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but because they want excuses to not hire you


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it's illegal for a business to say you're asian, so you don't get the job


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's invasive


[02-Feb-20 09:24 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I agree


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's legal for them to think "he's asian...we can't hire him" and go "well you uh...just don't fit our business culture" citing your tweets.


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just that it's invasive.


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
There needs to be a law against this invasion of privacy if the details aren't relevent to the job application at hand


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It givs them infinite excuses to commit discrimination.


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It's grounds for prejudice


[02-Feb-20 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
well, so is being a racist on twitter


[02-Feb-20 09:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And these people have the galls to soeak against prejudice when they';re doing it better than anyone else.


[02-Feb-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
There needs to be a *federal* law against businesses investigating non-job-relevant things about you.

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[02-Feb-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they ask for your social media so they can scour for a bikini photo of you to be like "You're too lewd for our company, i;m sorry"


[02-Feb-20 09:26 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Apparently certain types of prejudice seems to be acceptable, while others aren't


[02-Feb-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't be tolerant of nazis


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I think intolerance of racists and nazis is absolutely acceptable


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
that just leads to nazis killing jews


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which defeats the whole point of the original tolerance of jews etc.


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, do you know what "prejudice" means?


[02-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the same as "intolerance"


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
"Intolerance"


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you mean "intolerance" in regard to conservatives, but actual "prejudice" in regard to races.


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't tolerate nazis you're _literally_ just as bad as them :^)


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Prejudice" is when you use something to judge someone by assumption.


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
I don't think anyone knows that better than the PC crowd


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
For example, so and so is brown, therefore they are lazy.


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's prejudice.


[02-Feb-20 09:28 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
They are better in that game than anyone else


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Them being brown is unrelated to laziness.


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
And they're the ones to claim they fight intolerance.


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you PRE JUDGED by assuming it meant they were, etc.


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
"so and so is brown, and because I believe brown people are lazy, I will enact laws taxing brown people" is discrimination


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice is illegal for very good reasons.


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Maybe I was using the wrong terms


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not prejudice to hate nazis


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
prejudice is the belief, discrimination is the act


[02-Feb-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a Nazi directly means wanting the Jews dead etc.


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because of this direct implication, it is a logical inference and not prejudice.


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
But it seems the two have been increasingly used interchangeably


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
"Prejudice" and "Intolerance".


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If someone were to not want the jews dead, they're not really a nazi.


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
well, they might want the jews enslaved


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care about random fukkos mixing them up


[02-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point is about what's illegal


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
prejudice, as in inferring shit without good reasoning, is illegal on many different grounds


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Byte is certainly feeling juicy today


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice is always bad.


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Yes it is


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intolerance is not always bad.


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Try to judge people for individual merits


[02-Feb-20 09:31 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Not as a generalized entire group


[02-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you tweet you think arabs should be glassed


[02-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
people aren't being prejudiced in saying you're a racist asshole and shunning you.


[02-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're being intolerant of you and what you've said.


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they hav every right to be so.


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Often times those are the same folks who always preach against "intolerence".


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Kind of contradictory if you ask me


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, it is not.


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
People need to be hold up to their own standards and principles


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intolerance of people being born differently is a serious problem.


[02-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even without prejudice.


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intolarence of people being assholes is not.


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody chose to be born a certain way


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
That's what makes us humans


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
but someone chose to tweet about glassing arabs.


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not hypocritical to shun assholes who shun people for being born a certain way.


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
What's inhuman is people trying to "engineer" others for "desirable mentalities"


[02-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you're saying


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
if my mentality is that you should be eradicated


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
you specifically


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
with all force necessary


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
and everyone else is beside me


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
The whole world is an arena


[02-Feb-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is inhuman to try to convince me otherwise?


[02-Feb-20 09:36 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
It also might be my mentality to try and stop you


[02-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, but you just said it's inhuman to do so.


[02-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it being your mentality to engineer my mentality make it okay to do so?


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Liek I've said, the world is an arena


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't answer the question.


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] SeraphimDawn#9578
Thought compete


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
he's just going to dodge your questions


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Muting.


[02-Feb-20 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
+1


[02-Feb-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's always like this.


[02-Feb-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/481072-want-braver-politicians-hold-fewer-elections

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Want braver politicians? Hold fewer elections
A little less accountability to the voters could offer a lot of benefits to those very voters.
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[02-Feb-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I disagree


[02-Feb-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything, have more


[02-Feb-20 09:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/watch-trump-fan-melts-down-after-seeing-sign-calling-president-a-sexual-predator/?utm_source=push_notifications

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WATCH: Trump fan melts down after seeing sign calling president a ...
A supporter of President Donald Trump approached a protester sitting along the highway with signs reading “Trump is a sexual predator.” Filming the encounter, she asked the elderly man why he thinks Trump is a predator. “Do you live in a cave, lady?” the man asked. ...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Anti-Trump-protester.jpg


[02-Feb-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone's dad dresses like this

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[02-Feb-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dad tunic


[02-Feb-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Giving a bit of a *hmm* to the penn state logo on that golf cart


[02-Feb-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Once bitten, twice shy, I guess


[02-Feb-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao wingbeat


[02-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
```I think intolerance of racists and nazis is absolutely acceptable```


[02-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
and here's the problem


[02-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
the gays are the same or worse than nazis for some people.


[02-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
so you can't have everyone tolerating everything, that means killing jews (no it doesn't but let's go with it). You can't have everyone deciding who gets to tolerate who, that's what we get now.


[02-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
you also can't have a universal arbiter, that's far worse than any other option.


[02-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
so what now?


[02-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
I've been thinking about this and I don't have an option.


[02-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
"the gays are the same or worse than nazis for some people."


[02-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
qualify this.


[02-Feb-20 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
nazis were an existential threat to mankind. Just like jews were an existential threat for mankind, in the eyes of Hitler (some garbage about them infecting the world and destroying civilisations). Well, I've heard an opinion that 'western degradation' (LGBT+ primarily, for instance), as well as 'foreign hordes', are the current existential threat to mankind.


[02-Feb-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it being false doesn't make the opinions any weaker.


[02-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't tolerate the intolerant, and no, that isn't an oxymoron.


[02-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't tolerate vermin in your house because you like animals.


[02-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
true. And everyone thinks this about 'others'.


[02-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
so in the end the only way is to pick a side.


[02-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless it's Vermin Supreme


[02-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only candidate concern with America's moral and dental decay


[02-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
after Trump? Hell, I'd take him


[02-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus his Pony Pledge


[02-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Free ponies for all


[02-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're mandatory btw


[02-Feb-20 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_Darweesh_Al_Hams

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Iman Darweesh Al Hams
Iman Darweesh Al Hams (Arabic: ايمان درويش الهمص ʾĪmān Darwīsh al-Hamṣ; also Iyman) (1991 – 5 October 2004) was a 13-year-old Palestinian girl killed by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) fire near a military observation post in a "no-man's" zone near the ...
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[02-Feb-20 10:55 PM] ononim#8141

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[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your problem is "in the eyes of"


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're saying that because people hated the gays, and hated the nazis, that therefore they are equivalent to treat.


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
no


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not equivalent threat.


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you are equating the perception of threat.


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they're equivalent threat in the eyes of the people expressing the opinion.


[02-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
see the problem?


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gays are **not** a threat.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
not objectively, no.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
People's opinions don't matter.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk 'em.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
Naiz are threat tho


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to go after Nazis isn't that people consider them a threat.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
since they want


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and that would be ideal.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
and did


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to go after Nazis is they are provably dangerous.


[02-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
exterminate others


[02-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
If gays suddenly start reenacting krystalnacht because of being gay, which would make 0 physical sense, then sure, go after them.


[02-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie. You're barking at the wrong tree, I never disagreed with that. And you pointed out the problem - people's opinions don't matter.


[02-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
so this is, ideally, something that needs to be adressed.


[02-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
question is, how.


[02-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481116-john-kerry-overheard-discussing-potential-2020-bid-amid-concerns-over

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[02-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make it stop.


[02-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just 2016 GOP fear over Trump all over again


[02-Feb-20 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings

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The Mahmudiyah rape and killings were war crimes involving the gang-rape and murder of 14-year-old Iraqi girl Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi and the murder of her family by United States Army soldiers on March 12, 2006. It occurred in the family's house to the southwest of Yusu...
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[02-Feb-20 11:07 PM] ononim#8141
**BRUH**


[02-Feb-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
This is why I worry about employers learning I have autism


[02-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
paying autistic employees below min wage is perfectly legal in the US btw


[02-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
logic dictates that salary should be tied to productivity, not anything else. That sets up a different issue of how you value productivity but at least it's universal.


[02-Feb-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve had a classmate argue that salary shpould be tied to skill level


[02-Feb-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if you flip burgers for a living, then you should live in a box you subhuman


[02-Feb-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
salary is not the same as living standard


[02-Feb-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
there's a reasonable, humane position where that viewpoint is sensible


[02-Feb-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
however, it only works if everyone has a minimum living standard not connected to salary


[02-Feb-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
that seems... infeasible


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
I should note


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
the way it works is the gov't pays the rest of the wage


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's still shitty


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
that seems ideal. This is, perhaps, what manual labor automation could bring, if people would stop with the neolib profit minmaxing.


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it will, but the potential exists.


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It basically means businesses get a free chekk in exchange for putting disabled people in minimum wage jobs


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is bad for consumers and disabled people


[02-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because that money could've instead bypassed the paychekk and you know, actually paid for living a decent life.


[02-Feb-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just force stores to allow bathroom use without purchase


[02-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Midknight#9798
The problem with that is now you're forcing stores to accept additional costs that don't just not generate business, but actively drive it away if the bathroom gets vandalized


[02-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Midknight#9798
I dunno about you, but I don't want to eat at a restaurant that someone's smeared their poop all over the bathroom walls because they don't give a shit about actually being civil


[02-Feb-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I dunno man, women's restrooms are some disgusting shit


[02-Feb-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
even the ones that are for "paying customers only"


[02-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Midknight#9798
public restrooms generally are, but they're far better when users know they can be identified by their credit card use than they are when any random anonymous jackass can do whatever they want to them for shits and giggles and never face repercussions


[02-Feb-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
that really doesn't seem to be a problem at places I visit


[02-Feb-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure if it's just different where you live


[02-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I've been thinking about what you said byte


[02-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Midknight#9798
businesses downtown have security buzzers on their bathroom doors because homeless wreck the place without them


[02-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
that salary being divorsed from living standard means getting the latter from somewhere else which is unrealistic.


[02-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of has to be the same right now.


[02-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Midknight#9798
at least we're better off than parts of California in that regard.


[02-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
the salary has to be survivable regardless of productivity, which is moral but problematic.


[02-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
so, in only 1 extra step you still get the same result. There's productivity component, and living standard component.


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
you could get it theoretically from a supportive government


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yes. Which would be socialism, which Cold War propaganda victims hate.


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
not even


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
(and also neolibs)


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, not socialism, but strongly socliaist.


[02-Feb-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a policy a social democrat might like


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, it also makes practical sense.


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
but until we seize the means of production, comrade, 🛠


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it solves the issue of salary vs productivity


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of, but it does.


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] ononim#8141

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[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
hate how you see shit like this and go "huh another one"


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
we can do it better now than the Soviets could a century ago.


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know how to solve homelessness?


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
GIV PEOPLE HOMES


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Midknight#9798
I like Asimov's solution. Guaranteed basic barracks style housing and basic, nutritious if not particularly fancy food. If you want more, you work and pay for the difference.


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T HAV HOMES


[02-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Midknight#9798
Nobody should be starving to death or dying of exposure in this day and age


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Midknight#9798
and if you'd rather live off the basic level sustenance and spend your occasional cash on fun, well, it's a free country, you get that choice.


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
can we also add in education?


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Midknight#9798
That should go without saying?


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
so we don't inadvertently create a permanent caste system


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
like in BNW


[02-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Midknight#9798
We *had* education... doesn't seem to do so well nowadays


[02-Feb-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
the housing may be provided, but they artificially segregate the people by denying them education


[02-Feb-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Feb-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will get in that whit evan immediately


[02-Feb-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Bernie appeals to me for more than just his ideology


[02-Feb-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
He's also like a cool grandpa figure


[02-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's true


[02-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
My paternal grandfather is dead, and my maternal grandfather is a religious conservative


[02-Feb-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
and a christian dominionist


[02-Feb-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
He had 13 kids


[02-Feb-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both my grandfathers are dead


[02-Feb-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie is a really cool granfatherly dude


[02-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So on a very different note


[02-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate whataboutism so much


[02-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
so, so much


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fake-o Libertarian pretending to be anti Trump and pro Democracy in another server


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
try to tell him that actually, there's good reasons Trump should've been removed


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy of course went into "Well Obama pulled a Nixon by wiretapping Trump's campaign"


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you know


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
A Democrat who opens an investigation


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump did this" "BUT WHAT ABOUT OBAMA"


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
is the same as a Republican who hires robbers


[02-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
reeee


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I pointed that out and he of course accused me of strawmanning


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I started nailing him on Nixon


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
guy all but refused to state that committing treason to win election is wrong.


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
FBI wiretaps are totally the same as a sleazy private lawyer, right?


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
When I tried to directly asked him


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
he said I was strawmanning him


[02-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
that he never said it so I can't ask etc.


[02-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
When he finally said that yes, Nixon should've been punished for committing treason to win election


[02-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
(after a lengthy bit involving him going on about WHERE IS THE LINE BETWEEN A TWEET AND SABOTAGING PEACE TALKS)


[02-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
he said that well every Congressman and Governor has also done bad stuff.


[03-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just so fukking anyone to nail people to the wall when they start using *tu quoque* to stealthily argue against liberals actually wanting justice and fairness.


[03-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it allows them to never state their actual position


[03-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just state things that strongly imply their position, and then if you ask them, they can make you look bad for assuming


[03-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then dodge the question


[03-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then EVEN WHEN THEY FINALLY ADMIT THAT BAD THING IS BAD they go BUT ALSO LOTS OF PEOPLE DO IT


[03-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the conservative tradition of "What? I'm not a Nazi, jews are great!"


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminds me of all the people that get banned or have an image/comment deleted


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
As they start droning on about like, how Jews are behind all the problems.


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And immediately switch to complaining that this other maybe similar thing wasn't moderated


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lying when forced to state position, then implying real position constantly, even in the lies.


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Is there a word for this particular argumentative strategy besides whataboutism? It seems like it's more a specific case of it, where basically if you say X is bad, and then someone else says well Y is worse, don't worry about X


[03-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
*To quoque*


[03-Feb-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the no u fallacy


[03-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[03-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the No X fallacy


[03-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
"That thing is bad! You should stop it." "Other thing is bad too, why only stop this one?"


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an argument about fairness/hypocrisy


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trump committed thousands of warcrimes, but obama committed atleast 5 so  why should Trump be punished if obama isnt"


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
essentially, le libertarian says that both sides are corrupt


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
therefore, if you only go after Republican corruption


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are unfair


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho Republicans are doing worse things.


[03-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about using false equivalence mixed with accusations of hypocrisy.


[03-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, Kobold.


[03-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's exactly it.


[03-Feb-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dumbest thing is that;s an actual argument someone gave me once about why trump shouldnt be impeached


[03-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy at one point was going on about how people are unfair to Nixon


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
that he did all these wonderful things like open trade with China


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
bullshit, Nixon is whitewashed to hell


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I pointed that out by focusing on how Nixon caused MILLIONS of deaths.


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
they make him seem almost like a moderate


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
when really, he was fucking profoundly evil


[03-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he really, really didn't want to be nailed on that one


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
on the scale of trump level of evil, just more competent


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually he admitted that yes, Nixon committing treason was a bad thing


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that yes, Cambodia getting bombed was awful.


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both times he lathered in whataboutism.


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you know


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
every president has killed millions, right?


[03-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why only talk shit about the guy who TOTES SAVED US FROM COLD WAR


[03-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I guess JFK, LBJ, Carter, and Reagan didn't


[03-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, it was clearly just Nixon that saved us.


[03-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why whataboutism is so damn annoying.


[03-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lets people weasel.


[03-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you connect their implications they just get some friend to say you're a typical liberal rejecting their rejection of the system.


[03-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they are clearly Libertarian in name only.


[03-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like everything they say is constructed to put Republicans on pedestals and put down Democrats


[03-Feb-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
my neuroscience professor from last semester is a Silent


[03-Feb-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
when I pressed him on a question during a lecture he talked about how profoundly, disgustingly evil Nixon's administration was in its treatment of politics and respect for human dignity


[03-Feb-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
he talked more at length about the administration's attempts to suppress scientific research


[03-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
and noted that the Trump administration is doing the same thing, and the only saving grace is that it is so incompetent at doing so


[03-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, suppressing science is conservative stuff 101


[03-Feb-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
neither of us lived through Nixon, but he did


[03-Feb-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and the contempt in his voice was telling


[03-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPYl5k-vqMc&t=3s

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PragerU REJECTS The Enlightenment & Reason As A Concept
no, seriously, that's literally what they do

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[03-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
```And immediately switch to complaining that this other maybe similar thing wasn't moderated```


[03-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
this is actually fair though.


[03-Feb-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
PragerU is the embodiment of highly distilled conservative rhetoric


[03-Feb-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
> The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.


[03-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
either it's the rules not being applied consistently, or it's a standard set by inaction


[03-Feb-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
past inaction does not excuse present inaction


[03-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Opponent#3498
it also doesn't give any reason to expect any action though.


[03-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of the times the content they bring up is barely similar


[03-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's almost always not in the tone of "I thought this would be OK because this other thing exists", but "Why are you singling me out? I'm going to report everything I see now out of spite; if I can't have this then no one can!"


[03-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't to expect any action


[03-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is people think it's *wrong* that you took action.


[03-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which isn't a valid argument.


[03-Feb-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
informal fallacy


[03-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's false analogy.


[03-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
"My x is just like that x over there, so by only going after mine, you're targeting me!"


[03-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the other x is actually different.


[03-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, the situation around x may be different instead.


[03-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
For instance, older content had different rules at the time.


[03-Feb-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[03-Feb-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait wait


[03-Feb-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Real shit?


[03-Feb-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Libertarian party not posting cringe?


[03-Feb-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[03-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
libertarians and progressives often agree


[03-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians don't agree


[03-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
they pretend to.


[03-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no real libertarians, they're just conservatives wearing a mask of FREEEEEDOOOOOM


[03-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Midknight#9798
eeyuup


[03-Feb-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know


[03-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, their whole approach is that it's best to disguise your racism and sneak in stuff.


[03-Feb-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It seems the L party is very slowly shifting leftwards tho


[03-Feb-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Vermin Supreme, one of their frontrunners, has repeatedly spoken out against corporations as well


[03-Feb-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is vermin supreme running in 2020?


[03-Feb-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think he is


[03-Feb-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the party will decide iirc


[03-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/481119-montana-state-gop-lawmaker-says-constitution-calls-for-socialists-to-be

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Montana state GOP lawmaker says Constitution calls for socialists ...
A Republican state representative from Montana is coming under fire from his own party after he reportedly claimed earlier this weekend that the Constitution calls for socialists to be jailed or shot.
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[03-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie what is wrong with your state


[03-Feb-20 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's Montana


[03-Feb-20 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Basically a displaced deep south state


[03-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Midknight#9798
has he ever even read the constitution? srsly


[03-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Midknight#9798
I have a copy within arm's reach. That ain't in it.


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In WW1, Montana hanged German sympathizers.


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think any of thme have


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a lot of hatred over political matters outside the bigger towns.


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Farm types are very brutal people


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they deal with every problem at home with a shotgun


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
be that problem the neighbor's dog eating their cat


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
or indians being nearby


[03-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
or wolves existing


[03-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[03-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a problem cannot be solved by a shotgun, rural people don't understand it in Montana.


[03-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Midknight#9798
I'd hate to be the local IRS agent 😄


[03-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk even figuring out how much they own.


[03-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything's a mess in rural areas


[03-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
people just abandon houses instead of sell them fix or them up.


[03-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they build new ones that are just as shoddy.


[03-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you'll get people who on paper own like half a million, but in practice 4/5th of it has rotted to nothing.


[03-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana as a result ranks really poorly in wealth.


[03-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Midknight#9798
so basically, the MythBusters verdict on Far Cry 5 is plausible.


[03-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you leave something for 6 months, it might not be there when you return.


[03-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
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@lucianwintrich Fun fact: those are Native Americans, and their middle fingers are up because Mt. Rushmore (the Six Grandfathers, in Lakota Sioux) is sacred land given back to Natives in the Treaty of Fort Laramie, which we later decided to carve up anyway.

Congrats, you ...
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[03-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/exj6d2/no_i_will_not_yield_641992/fg8k3gt/>


[03-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Damn I cant deal with idiots for 5 minutes, can you imagine fighting the same battles for 30+ years?


[03-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
> I was just thinking the same thing. You have to respect this guys dedication and tenacity.


[03-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
> He should run for president


[03-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[03-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1223372768256778240

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@GettyImagesNews @woolstonphoto The other fella is wearing "tactictal sportwear" made by Russian company, Mordor Tac.
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[03-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
people LARPing as russian-paid terrorists to terrorize the kentucky capitol building


[03-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
at what point do these people stop and think "hmm, are we the baddies?"


[03-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
do the majority of people just not have the self-reflection capabilities to have a look at how their own actions might be perceived?


[03-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
and don't do the whole "oh, they're just kids being kids" bullshit, I had more self-reflection when I was in elementary school than these retards seem to have as adults


[03-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
though I can understand how hormones during puberty might make people do some really dumb shit


[03-Feb-20 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
>russian terrorist


[03-Feb-20 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
what


[03-Feb-20 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
if you mean russian military uniform it is famous for having "pixelated" pattern


[03-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
no, the outfit he was wearing was made by the russian company "Mordor Tac"


[03-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
and I mean like russian-paid


[03-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
not literally russian terrorists


[03-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
and LARPing of course, they aren't actually russian-paid terrorists


[03-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
they are terrorizing the capitol building though


[03-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
which is the retardation I'm talking about


[03-Feb-20 02:04 AM] ononim#8141
I fail to see how whenever they get their larping camo track suit from us store, russian store, german store, iranian store, chinese store or whenever effects anything


[03-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess it's the adidas stripes


[03-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
it's just the optics of the situation


[03-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
I'm steelmanning it


[03-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In unrelated news


[03-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess tomorrow we get to see what excuse the DNC gives to make Bernie lose Iowa


[03-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
if it's not classic deep blue, it's not true russian bootleg adidas


[03-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
they lost before they even began


[03-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Opponent#3498
(it's also super comfy, warm, durable and easy to clean, there's a valid reason why those tracksuits became popular)


[03-Feb-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
one of the russian staff here had me dress up in adidas and wear sunglasses for a shot


[03-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
blyat


[03-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, apparently the LARPers were "ironically" slav squatting for photos as well


[03-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/31/kentucky-gun-rights-groups-rally-2nd-amendment-capitol/4602922002/

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Gun-toting protesters in camo condemn red flag laws at Kentucky Ca...
Spurred by gun control efforts in Virginia, Second Amendment advocates in Kentucky have looked to stave off any firearms regulations in Frankfort
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[03-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Le funny slav squat meme, look at me /k/


[03-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/iamzeeeggman/status/1223695475695607808

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@DavidDTSS @deray Remember when the Black Panthers (lawfully) did this in California and Gov. Reagan, St. Ronnie of the Conservatives, immediately got gun control laws on the books to disarm them?
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[03-Feb-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dick Tator


[03-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481125-ken-bone-endorses-andrew-yang-for-president-yanggang-all-the-way

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Ken Bone endorses Andrew Yang for president: '#YangGang all the way!'
Ken Bone, the man who went viral after asking a question at a 2016 presidential debate, announced his support for Andrew Yang in the 2020 Democratic primary on Sunday.
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[03-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forgot he was a Missourian.


[03-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden's leading here by like 20 points in the primary


[03-Feb-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
honestly, calling mcconnell a dick taster is an insult to gay people


[03-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also man, I'm amazed that there's no Dem candidate that goes


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The people in the Midwest think you're a sissy liberal elite! We don't like that do we?"


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Old meme endorses Yang


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow, so cool


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So relevant


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf did Ken Bone get famous for again


[03-Feb-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
wearing a red sweater at the 2016 presidential debate


[03-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think he later got doxed and exposed as being a pervert


[03-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think he was like a sexual harasser/assaulter and that he just liked weird porn but can't remember


[03-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
the one in the Adidas camo track suit is the only one slav squating, other doing western spy squat


[03-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
"Heels touch ground when slavs squat around" -Russian proverb


[03-Feb-20 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
why do westerners even do that? It's far harder to sit for long without heels on the ground


[03-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because squatting is generally a preparation pose for a lunge or jump, not something done regularly


[03-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the west, anyway


[03-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
lack of ankle mobility?


[03-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have chairs.


[03-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a big Indian thing too


[03-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll just squat in place.


[03-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also all around Asia, squat toilets are still common.


[03-Feb-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Capitalism destroyed my family. My grandfather was the ducal elector of the Palatinate, but capitalism disintegrated the Holy Roman Empire and left my family with nothing. No more peasants to work our land, no rents from the fields or monasteries, not even my family’s ca...
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[03-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
p.obscure without context


[03-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From a few days ago with the woman talking about how the commies took away her great grandfather's egg monopoly and her grandma's mansion


[03-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This argument is sometimes called the "Castro stole my slaves" argument


[03-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate capitalist view is that it's a problem that communism arose simply because it took your private property away.


[03-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So ingrained a notion is the idea of absolute ownership, that they can't even frame the political argument without it.


[03-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's more simple here, it's "Person wants us to feel bad for them but they and their family were the bad ones"


[03-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure there are many families who would be decently wealthy now if slavery survived


[03-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're mad that their future was "stolen" from them


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the feminist texts I have to read for GSWS keep talking about socialism but they're not talking about the socialism I'm thinking of


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
what I'm pointing out is


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
seems this word has been conflated forever


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea that removing things for being bad is "stealing"


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
is a capitalist view


[03-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, capitalism values private property as a right **above all others**


[03-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slavery? My right to your body is above your right to your body.


[03-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I hav the deed.


[03-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So of course the argument is "you stole my deed, and that's wrong!"


[03-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the capitalist has no perspective that there could be other things of value than ownership.


[03-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I recently heard the argument that boiled down to "You will have no innovation without inequality"


[03-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I'm just here, looking up the first people to launch man into space or make a space station


[03-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a very pessimistic view that assumes when people are free from want, they will just sit around all day and smoke weed.


[03-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a view based on ignoring what CEOs actually do with their time.


[03-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think one of the quotes he was presenting as an example was


[03-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why invent cars? Why put the people who run the carriages out of work?"


[03-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a weird view of socialism, I think the point was that progress means some people get hurt and we can't have that ever


[03-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think a socialist would reject modernizations. Especially given that the dream now is automation and a workless society


[03-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A robot and AI will take your job, but that's good: you can learn to paint or write a novel


[03-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you can just play video games and smoke weed all day, up to you


[03-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT WHO WILL SHINE THE SHOOOOOOEEEEES


[03-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just the "two kinds of immortal people" story on a smaller scale.


[03-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The first thinks "I am living forever!" and uses it as a way to do absolutely everything and try new things


[03-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The second thinks the same but sees it as a reason not to rush to do anything


[03-Feb-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  continuing from #general-discussion ; since being scared makes you conservative, and the latter hates women, minorities, and the environment, does that mean being scared makes you sexist, racist, and have some desire to kill trees and pollute?


[03-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie The robot shines the shoes. The former shoe shiner uses it because he learned to be a concert pianist and needs to look good before his performance


[03-Feb-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
also forgot and somehow become religious :ponythinking:


[03-Feb-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 this is a constant thing with you


[03-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being scared makes you treat minorities worse


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
being scared makes you fear outsiders


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it won't make you adopt everything American conservatives attach to.


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't make you a conservative


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may make you okay with businesses exploiting the poor.


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it will not make you pollute.


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
fearing an invasion by brown people is unlikely to affect someone's view on climate change or access to birth control


[03-Feb-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> being scared makes you fear outsiders
oh. that makes more sense. ty


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, the birth control thing is because christians are in power


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
being in power makes people more conservative


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the Christians, who oppose birth control, are also conservative


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being conservative did not make them oppose birth control.


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] jlun2#8758
ah


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] jlun2#8758
sorry about that, ty


[03-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservativeness is about having power **and fearing losing it**

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[03-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if you aren't the absolute bottom rung of society


[03-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you see a thing that could threaten to put you down there


[03-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's when you start finding reasons to put other people down there.


[03-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a self-preservation response, but politically.


[03-Feb-20 03:37 AM] jlun2#8758
The fact that googling "conservatism definition" gets multiple definitions confused me, sorry.


[03-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's something that's taken a long time for psychology and sociology to understand.


[03-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it is in conservatives' best interests to make sure they never understand it.


[03-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They often deliberately defund social sciences.


[03-Feb-20 03:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
So what's going on with this impeachment shit ?


[03-Feb-20 03:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I'm so confused It seems to be going no where


[03-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
@SweetDahlia no witnesses. Sham trial. Republicans win.


[03-Feb-20 03:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Figured


[03-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, it's because westerners have lost the ability to squat properly


[03-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
use chairs too much


[03-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
kids can do it


[03-Feb-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tfw no pooping while squatting


[03-Feb-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bathrooms should force people to squat tbh


[03-Feb-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Leave toilet seats to the physically impaired


[03-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
tfw I'm a slav that can't properly squat


[03-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
basically, use it or you lose it


[03-Feb-20 03:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  dont worry they already exist in japan https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/japanese-style-squat-toilets-a-surprising-way-to-stay-healthy

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Japanese-style squat toilets: A surprising way to stay healthy
Despite being famous for producing the heated, buttock-massaging, water-spraying robotic toilets of the future, Japan is also home to a surprising number of old-school “washiki” (Japanese-style) squat toilets. Especially outside of the city, these toilets can still be fou...
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[03-Feb-20 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cool


[03-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, japan doesn't use chairs that much at home


[03-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
leave it to Japan to just from an extreme to an extreme.


[03-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
I actually saw a documentary of some south american tribes, they had a little bar of wood next to a fire pit in their village they had a few old dudes putting their heels on to make squatting easier

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[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] ononim#8141
I never had to squat defecate unless it's on a rare trips where were no regular toilets, and I still can squat fully


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] ononim#8141
it's just a thing you then you need to sit down but there's no sit


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 This is the most important thing I've ever read as far as what conservatives really are:


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/15/what-does-conservatism-stand-for

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What does conservatism stand for? | Ed Rooksby
Ed Rooksby: Social inequalities and hierarchies can be defended and secured in different ways
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[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] ononim#8141
like then you play outside


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie tyvm!


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/1224141849088135169

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https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/1224141849088135169
Best Super Bowl half time show ever.
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[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not very long, but it is the only time I've ever seen a coherent full coverage of wtf conservatism is.


[03-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[03-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the tl;dr is that monarchists saw French peasants revolt


[03-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and became afraid of losing their power


[03-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
this ended up covering religion, minorities, all that


[03-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's the specifics of the UK and most of Europe on the matter, today


[03-Feb-20 03:50 AM] illumnious#7938
@Itsthinking https://twitter.com/KassyDillon/status/1224145370147516416?s=20

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@JebBush https://t.co/TnQqKgFF32
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[03-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's a fundamental psychological force that's been with us since we've been around.


[03-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
yeah onon, in the west there's places to sit literally everywhere


[03-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
so there's basically no need to squat anywhere


[03-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
so you lose the muscle strength and flexibility required to squat properly


[03-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth is the context to that tweet?


[03-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeb Bush liked the halftime show.


[03-Feb-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeb!


[03-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, football happening tonight


[03-Feb-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The sport with large dudes smashing against each other


[03-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
bruh

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[03-Feb-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds lit ngl


[03-Feb-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*heavy aristocratic British accent* "Hahaha look at these peasants railing against the lords who feed them"


[03-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw @byte[], my argument with the whataboutists got politics banned from that server, which is 10/10 (basically it all stemmed from whenever I linked news, whataboutists would go WOW OMG ORANGE MAN BAD TDS)


[03-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in they have TDS or they would say others have it for even discussing him


[03-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would say I hav it for linking an article that points out something he's doing.


[03-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't question politician, just vote and then get ready to vote again for another politician


[03-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The 20 year old vooter


[03-Feb-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  suddenly articles about "conservative brain" makes more sense now. ty


[03-Feb-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[03-Feb-20 04:41 AM] illumnious#7938
who cares


[03-Feb-20 04:42 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Lrihendry/status/1224131672796430338?s=20

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Lori Hendry TEXT TRUMP TO 88022 (@Lrihendry)
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@realDonaldTrump BEST SUPER BOWL AD EVER! 

President Trump making lives better for minorities! 

Unlike Obama, who did nothing for minorities!
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[03-Feb-20 04:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Speech 100


[03-Feb-20 04:42 AM] illumnious#7938
super bowl what now


[03-Feb-20 04:43 AM] illumnious#7938
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Israel & USA forever (@IsraelUSAforevr)
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@realDonaldTrump The best president ever
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[03-Feb-20 04:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look at the way he's clutching it lol


[03-Feb-20 04:45 AM] illumnious#7938
somebody better photoshop that image


[03-Feb-20 04:47 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1224082805405167618

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Here’s the Trump fan outside the Biden rally. You can see the JOE bus in the background. https://t.co/DoiSx53mVR
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[03-Feb-20 04:48 AM] illumnious#7938
part 2


[03-Feb-20 04:48 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ErinMPerrine/status/1224176100714143746?s=20

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When @realDonaldTrump addresses the nation this week during #SOTU, he has lots to tout:
💪🏻 Blue collar boom
🇺🇸 Economic growth

And 73% of people who got jobs last year were from marganlized groups or those outside the workforce.

America first with President @...
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[03-Feb-20 04:48 AM] illumnious#7938
what


[03-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
trump doesn't look like he's hugging the flag in that photo


[03-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
he looks like he's holding it hostage


[03-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
has it in a chokehold


[03-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nah the grip isn't tight enough to be a chokehold


[03-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's more like a awkward hug than anything


[03-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
... you can threaten to choke hold without actually doing it


[03-Feb-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
you can lock someone up in one without applying pressure


[03-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.wikihow.com/images/7/73/Do-a-Sleeper-Choke-Hold-Step-13-Version-2.jpg

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[03-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
also, I found this


[03-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
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@NathanJRobinson Minnesota continues a century-plus long legacy of being politically inscrutable
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[03-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hey, we had a pin perfect for Sela


[03-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The stikk figure thing.


[03-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
who runs the libertarian party twitter? it's actually starting to sound libertarian


[03-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
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As we begin celebrating #BlackHistoryMonth, let us never forget the brave Black Panthers that stood by their rights in the 60s - staunchly opposing oppressive police brutality and the Mulford Act, a gun control bill signed by Ronald Reagan and supported by the NRA to disar...
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[03-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
this is spicy


[03-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
I like it


[03-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably a liberal who's burning them from the inside.


[03-Feb-20 09:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1224227102540673024?s=19

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just normal grandparent things
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[03-Feb-20 09:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/xck3d/status/1224103954813870080?s=21 an actuall examination of bloodborne

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https://twitter.com/xck3d/status/1224103954813870080?s=21
So has anyone written a scholarly paper yet about how Bloodborne is basically just a thinly veiled critique of the male view on women's bodies, the horrors associated with reproduction, and how men perceive women as tools and objects?
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[03-Feb-20 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump unveiled his plan to deal with Sanders should he win the nomination; unsurprisingly, it's just calling him a commie

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[03-Feb-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... of course it is, that;s everyone's plan


[03-Feb-20 12:11 PM] Midknight#9798
Nazis vs Commies... sounds like a bad mobile game. Probably has horrible overdone microtransactions


[03-Feb-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the exciting sequel to plants vs zombies


[03-Feb-20 12:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to get news from non-national US papers is a pita


[03-Feb-20 12:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
3/4ths of them block EU addresses


[03-Feb-20 12:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Tried proxy?


[03-Feb-20 12:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At work


[03-Feb-20 12:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And from the phone?


[03-Feb-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm too cheap to have a decent plan -_-


[03-Feb-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is not a big issue, just an observation


[03-Feb-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's hard to get a feel for how this or that state or city feel about things


[03-Feb-20 12:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
blargh, and work firewall blocks archive.today... because it's hosted in Moldova


[03-Feb-20 12:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck that country, I guess


[03-Feb-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
.li works


[03-Feb-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno why they don't just use cloudlfare


[03-Feb-20 02:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1224122645073055745?s=21

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President Trump spent time today golfing at Trump International Golf Club in Florida. He wore a Keep America Great hat. https://t.co/3Rs7vt0aiA
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[03-Feb-20 03:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
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Bernie Sanders vs. Homophobic Congressman in 1995
Bernie Sanders, as a member of congress, stands up for homosexuals in this 1995 C-SPAN clip. In the video, Duke Cunningham derisively refers to "homos in the military" and Rep. Sanders can't believe his ears. The exchanged occurred, bizarrely,  while discussing the Clean Wate...
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[03-Feb-20 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
that's been linked here like 5 times the past week lol


[03-Feb-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
in youtube, reddit, and twitter form


[03-Feb-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
to be fair, it's a good speech


[03-Feb-20 03:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Feb-20 04:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-impeachment-hasn-t-shaken-my-faith-working-republicans-n1128556

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Biden: Impeachment hasn't 'shaken my faith' in working with Republ...
The former vice president said 'no one's' found anything wrong with his son Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine.
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[03-Feb-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
you can't teach an old dog new tricks


[03-Feb-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
literally incapable of realizing that the impeachment process has shown that the republican party is basically a legitimized rogue element in the US government


[03-Feb-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-Feb-20 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta love that 'homophobe' paralympics post.


[03-Feb-20 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
internet debate in a nutshell


[03-Feb-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
keep america make again


[03-Feb-20 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
KAG


[03-Feb-20 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kick America's Groin


[03-Feb-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0d0601584df837998c2c7bac33da18d4

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After NPR dust-up, Pompeo defends press freedom abroad
TASHKENT, Uzbekistan (AP) — For the past four days, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been calling for authoritarian governments in eastern Europe and Central Asia to ease restrictions on...
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[03-Feb-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s still going...


[03-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0c1243146eaaac8bdcb8e76b50aa158c

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Muslim nations reject Trump's Mideast plan in Saudi meeting
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Days after Gulf Arab states expressed their support for President Donald Trump's efforts at resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, representatives from...
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[03-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[03-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truly shocked, it all seemed like a great plan between isreal and isreal


[03-Feb-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
surely palestine has blown another chance at just becoming more isreal


[03-Feb-20 04:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they too different


[03-Feb-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jared jushner doesnt understand jackshit of what;s causing the conflict


[03-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conflict is that palestine wants to be their own state, while isreal wants to wipe them out and assimilate their territory


[03-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Jared Kushners plan is basically "let;s do what isreal wants and strip you of your territory and your military so you;re dependent and hopeful that isreal doesnt come in and kill all of you"


[03-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"And while we;re at it let;s just give some of egypt and jordan to isreal too because somehow one country having everything is a form of peace"


[03-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"That;s how peace works right?"


[03-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee, i wonder why no one but isreal likes this plan


[03-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[03-Feb-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even native isrealis are looking at this plan and going "What the ever loving fuck is this bullshit?"


[03-Feb-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile jared kushner and Trump are looking at it with netenyahu and going "Hey, we'll give you everyone's territory so you can sell it to us piecemeal and we can build more trump resorts."


[03-Feb-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent I didn't mention it yesterday but you sounded exactly how I thought you would

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[03-Feb-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no need to "be safe" here


[03-Feb-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
just post it in general


[03-Feb-20 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, only thing that we're really hard on moderation-wise is nsfw in sfw channels


[03-Feb-20 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
and even then...


[03-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, fair enough


[03-Feb-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/480978-democrats-gear-up-for-state-of-the-union-protests-as-impeachment-lingers

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A number of House Democrats are gearing up to stage protests against President Trump's State of the Union address once again Tuesday, this time after voting to impeach him.
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[03-Feb-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224377770983284737?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Where’s the Whistleblower? Where’s the second Whistleblower? Where’s the Informer? Why did Corrupt politician Schiff MAKE UP my conversation with the Ukrainian President??? Why didn’t the House do its job? And sooo much more!
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[03-Feb-20 07:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Watch live: Senate impeachment trial of President Trump (Day 11) https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-senate-impeachment-trial-of-president-trump-day-11-76951109755

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Watch live: Senate impeachment trial of President Trump
Watch live coverage as Chief Justice John Roberts presides over the U.S. Senate’s impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. The two articles of impeachment charge Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.
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[03-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
why are there so many people advertising crypto drops on trump's tweets? are they bots or something?


[03-Feb-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Pretty much


[03-Feb-20 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
they also always seem to mention something about elon musk


[03-Feb-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Some are bots, and some are assholes


[03-Feb-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>"Where's"


[03-Feb-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You blocked the witnesses you dumb fuck


[03-Feb-20 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the whistle blower was never going to appear, that would be a huge breach of security especially when you and your party are trying to assassinate them


[03-Feb-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would put their lives at huge risk


[03-Feb-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's still trying to play the victim card too even when the GOP senate has all but shredded that card to bits by showing that he's in complete control of them


[03-Feb-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again his supporters won't give a fuck, they'll just tape that card back together and re-use it in every argument


[03-Feb-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He is an innocent man and him using executive privilege to block witnesses, proves it"


[03-Feb-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481210-biden-allies-lower-expectations-for-iowa-most-feel-its-not-going-to-be

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Joe Biden’s campaign team is setting expectations low for the Iowa caucuses Monday night.
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[03-Feb-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably went even further down when he said he'd work with the republicans who give Trump his power directly


[03-Feb-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/481209-no-2-va-official-fired

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No. 2 VA official fired
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Deputy Secretary James Byrne was fired on Monday, just five months after being confirmed for the job by the Senate.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/veteransaffairs-1157263286.jpg


[03-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481219-bloomberg-rises-to-third-place-tie-in-new-national-poll

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Bloomberg rises into third-place tie with Warren in national poll
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has climbed into third place in a national poll, tying with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bloombergmike_012220gn3_lead.jpg


[03-Feb-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/119246766/koalas-starved-to-death-says-australian-farmer-accused-of-massacre

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Koalas starved to death, says Australian farmer accused of 'massacre'
Australian property owner says death of at least 40 animals is "not a big hoo-ha" and it wasn't his fault they starved.
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[03-Feb-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "Burn down the orphanage? All I did was litter with flaming torches." argument.


[03-Feb-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[03-Feb-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that farmer was quickly burned in a bon fire


[03-Feb-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one knew who started the bonfire, but it went on for 3 days


[03-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.newnownext.com/south-dakota-bill-erases-lgbtq-people-from-public-life-entirely/01/2020/

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Unprecedented South Dakota Bill Aims to Erase LGBTQ People From Pu...
HB 1215 would outlaw marriage equality and permanently legalize gay conversion therapy, among other anti-LGBTQ measures.
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[03-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Compelled speech mixed with directly defying SCOTUS.


[03-Feb-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder Republicans do not and never hav believed in supporting the constitution.


[03-Feb-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be in a shredder if thye had their way


[03-Feb-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481231-ernst-walks-back-her-biden-impeachment-remarks

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Ernst walks back her Biden impeachment remarks
Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) on Monday walked back her comments a day earlier warning that the Congress could immediately impeach Democrat Joe Biden over his Ukraine dealings if he’s elected president this November.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ernstjoni_091019gn_lead.jpg


[03-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People in South Dakota want to fuck their cows, I guess


[03-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not let gay people exist


[03-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Expecting an awful lot in terms of their sexual capabilities.


[03-Feb-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/blanesane1/status/1224351803590041600

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saneblane (@blanesane1)
https://twitter.com/blanesane1/status/1224351803590041600
The DNC changed the rules in Iowa to take power from College towns where more young people are. 

They knew Sanders would runaway with the young vote so this is just another way to rig the caucus. https://t.co/w4jACnKMcM
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[03-Feb-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1223804784131690498?s=20

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Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig)
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1223804784131690498?s=20
Liberal deference to oppressed groups — women, POC, LGBT+, i undocumented, etc — is fake. It’s phony. They don’t believe it and they don’t practice it. It’s all just using avatars to apply an unimpeachable veneer of radicalism to patently conservative politics....
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[03-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the standard inverse Its argument


[03-Feb-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, a conservative applying conservative thinking to what liberals do.


[03-Feb-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Failing to comprehend that liberals can exist.


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know conservatives exist but I just don't get their logic.


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes.


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know they exist as a thing


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you don't get their mindset, so in effect in your thinking you deny their actual existence.


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are not liberals with replacement values


[03-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't really hav values in the same sense at all.


[03-Feb-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the same token, this person on twitter can't grasp that liberals hav actual values, actual moral things they fight for.


[03-Feb-20 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I "get" why they have their mindset but don't think it makes sense


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes perfect sense.


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's human selfishness.


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Applied at scale.


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To them I suppose


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine someone who can't imagine doing something "because it's the right thing to do"


[03-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, they see a movie where someone says that


[03-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and in their mind, that person said it because they hav ulterior motives


[03-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and want to look good to others while carrying out said motives.


[03-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you tell them "well actually, no, it's just that person's morality that they hav to help" and they look at you funny for a moment before nodding.


[03-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The nod being a lie so they aren't exposed.


[03-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alternatively, they do buy the person saying it, but they believe it's "because that was a good person we can't lose"


[03-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
"We" being white people.


[03-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
*And* "good" being white.


[03-Feb-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if instead it was a person of a different race, they suddenly become flabbergasted by the action in the movie.


[03-Feb-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you ask them why, and they say "because that guy was annoying, his voice, the music he put on..."


[03-Feb-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Does that help, @Itsthinking?


[03-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, conservatives who hav a value system hav one that is entirely built around their society being the One True Path while also believing that each in other societies should follow their own path, but with the One True Path on top.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of being agnostic to things like, race, religion, culture is foreign to them.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that makes sense


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So faux nationalism


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can understand altruism, but only in the form of supporting the One True Path.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
As said path is their ultimate goal, and all goals.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
An actual nationalist would not give a single fuck about people being stoned for being gay in Saudi Arabia, or female circumcision in Sudan.


[03-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of altruism being an end, not a means, is foreign.


[03-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but a conservative will *prefer* that someone be stoned for being gay in Saudi Arabia


[03-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
all while feigning outrage.


[03-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals that *actually* go in and stop gays from being stoned are seen as utter scum.


[03-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because not only are they "interfering with people's self-determination" but are doing so in a way that takes things further from the One True Path.


[03-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The belief is that people in India should hav their own culture, which only ever changes by adopting things from the Protestant church.


[03-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If suddenly liberals managed to get the people of India to be religiously tolerant, conservatives in the US would be pissed.


[03-Feb-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/481234-limbaugh-says-he-has-advanced-lung-cancer

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Rush Limbaugh says he has advanced lung cancer
Rush Limbaugh on Monday announced during his nationally syndicated radio show that he had been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/limbaugh.jpg


[03-Feb-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
pls die within a year


[03-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
thoughts and prayers


[03-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
(it doesn't say whether those thoughts and prayers have to be nice or not)


[03-Feb-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately he can only afford the generic brand thoughts and prayers


[03-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't realize he smoked


[03-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thought his problem was painkillers, or at least used to be


[03-Feb-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if he did both


[03-Feb-20 09:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/3/21116044/iowa-caucuses-2020-accessibility-problem

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The Iowa caucuses have a big accessibility problem
The caucuses have a low turnout rate. Accessibility is a big reason.
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[03-Feb-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thoughts and prayers like a rain of axes.


[03-Feb-20 09:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1224170024572723200?s=21

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Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck)
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1224170024572723200?s=21
Except that this Kansas City is in Missouri.
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[03-Feb-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably thinks new mexico is part of mexico


[03-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, he does.


[03-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, no he knows New Mexico is a state


[03-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
but he thinks Colorado is next to it.


[03-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he thinks the border wall is built in Colorado


[03-Feb-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-are-the-iowa-democratic-caucuses-important-how-do-they-work-2020-1

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Everything you need to know about the Iowa caucuses, and why they ...
Iowa has historically played an important role in narrowing down the presidential field, but today's caucuses may not be make-or-break.
https://i.insider.com/5c94ec3b7563b010862cab92?width=1200&format=jpeg


[03-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>May not be make or break


[03-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There has been one nominee in the past three plus decades that didn't win Iowa but won the nomination.


[03-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_One_


[03-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that was because everyone conceded the race to a senator from Iowa.


[03-Feb-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1224427879360094209

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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1224427879360094209
DNC Mulls Asking Donald Trump To Run As Democrat In Effort To Stop Sanders https://t.co/DKY03d4ttG
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[03-Feb-20 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224375060250746880?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224375060250746880?s=21
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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[03-Feb-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MAKE AMERICA KEEP AGAIN GREAT!


[03-Feb-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joni-ernst-iowa-warned-president-joe-biden-impeached-ukraine-2020-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-joni-ernst-iowa-warned-president-joe-biden-impeached-ukraine-2020-2
A GOP Senator warned that a 'President Joe Biden' could be impeach...
Republican Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa warned Joe Biden that he could be immediately impeached if elected president for his role in Ukraine.
https://i.insider.com/5e3838b95bc79c31d974bef5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[03-Feb-20 10:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224427074342928384?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224427074342928384?s=21
https://t.co/KSVkKL76NM
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[03-Feb-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
drop out already you fuck


[03-Feb-20 10:38 PM] illumnious#7938
You mean Biden or baby Trump


[03-Feb-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the DNC is abandoning biden in favor of blumberg


[03-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[03-Feb-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course, blumberg also paid off the DNC https://www.businessinsider.com/dnc-debate-qualification-rules-bloomberg-donation-2020-2

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Michael Bloomberg is the only candidate to give money to the DNC. ...
Bloomberg gave $300,000 to the Democratic National Committee last year, ahead of a rules change that allows him to participate in debates.
https://i.insider.com/5e3855f8e0e144188238cae4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[03-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still better than Biden


[03-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, i dont know by how much, but true


[03-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast he;s probably more sane


[03-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Trump really hates him


[03-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because Bloomberg is worth twenty times the amount he is


[03-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He created the Bloomberg Terminal, which basically made modern stock trading possible.


[03-Feb-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/bernie-sanders-nordic-model-finland-american-dream-sanna-marin-2020-2-1028868627

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Bernie Sanders and AOC support the 'Nordic model,' which features ...
Sen. Bernie Sanders, a leading 2020 Democratic candidate, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez both support modeling the US after Nordic countries ...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e3833f95bc79c2d63615b45-1280/pjimage-4.jpg


[03-Feb-20 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
Bur conservative twitter talking head promised me full communism :depressed:


[03-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481260-manchin-calls-for-bipartisan-censure-of-trump

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Manchin calls for bipartisan censure of Trump
Centrist Democratic Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/manchinjoe_091019gn_lead.jpg


[03-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, centrism


[03-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
where we decide to take the half measure and slap people on the wrist for destroying part of our democracy.


[03-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'll show 'em!


[03-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let the people be the final voice...


[03-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
in an election that this person was trying to rig


[03-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want dictatorship.


[03-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
An "election" in which everyone votes for supreme leader.


[03-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't question why it's always 98% for him.


[03-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“There is no conclusive proof that nicotine’s addictive... And the same thing with cigarettes causing emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease.”- Rush Limbaugh


[03-Feb-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
what kind of fucking proof do you want


[03-Feb-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
we did unethical animal experiments in the 70s


[03-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember talking with people who knew what the stance of tobacco companies was during the 90s


[03-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, that nothing was "proven" directly and that "proof" was fudged by the CDC to look worse than it was


[03-Feb-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
if you wanna get super nitpicky


[03-Feb-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
science doesn't make proofs, it evaluates evidence


[03-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that was part of the argument, that nothing was proven directly


[03-Feb-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
however, the evidence is so strong that nobody who actually read the study design or followed the _videos_ of what the researchers are doing can deny that there is a causal relationship


[03-Feb-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking for a trivial example of just how weak that perspective is


[03-Feb-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't prove that everyone eventually dies


[03-Feb-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
no way to do it


[03-Feb-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
however, the evidence _strongly_ suggests everyone dies


[03-Feb-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
people constantly confuse the kinds of evaluations of things that science makes with math proofs


[03-Feb-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
they are not comparable


[03-Feb-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
do not try to compare them


[03-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Macarou#9574
I'm not entirely sure what math proofs are.


[03-Feb-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
a math proof is a collection of claims that are either
- tautologies
- syllogisms based on tautologies


[03-Feb-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
for example, saying "2 is the number of items given when you count this collection: ||"


[03-Feb-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a tautology


[03-Feb-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
"4 is the number of items given when you count this collection: ||||"


[03-Feb-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
"addition corresponds to counting the concatenation of groups"


[03-Feb-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
"numerical equality corresponds to the counts being the same"


[03-Feb-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and thus you may derive 2+2=4


[03-Feb-20 11:31 PM] Macarou#9574
Ah. How, interesting.


[03-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
in a math proof, the conclusion _must_ follow from the premises


[03-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
stated another way, if you accept the premises, you _have_ to accept the conclusion


[03-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
it is impossible for it to be false


[03-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not the case in science


[03-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Macarou#9574
I believe i'm understanding.


[03-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], that onion article is basically what happened in italy when the fascists took power


[03-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
the leftists in power at the time saw the big old fascist demonstrations demanding power and were scared of the popularity of the communists, so the leftists ceded power to the fascists in a bloodless coup because the leftists thought the fascists would stop communism from taking over


[03-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
the fascists did stop them, but by exterminating the communists


[03-Feb-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
in science, it's always possible that there is something we don't understand


[03-Feb-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481268-read-manchins-proposed-senate-censure-of-trump

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READ: Manchin's proposed Senate censure of Trump
Sen.
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[03-Feb-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
we have an inferential rule that electric potential flows in a way that minimizes the potential (voltage flows from source to ground)


[03-Feb-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
but we cannot _prove_ that it will always do that


[03-Feb-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
more contrast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning

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Deductive reasoning
Deductive reasoning, also deductive logic, is the process of reasoning from one or more statements (premises) to reach a logically certain conclusion.Deductive reasoning goes in the same direction as that of the conditionals, and links premises with conclusions. If all premis...

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Inductive reasoning
Inductive reasoning is a method of reasoning in which the premises are viewed as supplying some evidence for the truth of the conclusion; this is in contrast to deductive reasoning. While the conclusion of a deductive argument is certain, the truth of the conclusion of an ind...


[03-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Macarou#9574
I see.


[03-Feb-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481266-senate-drama-surrounding-trump-trial-starts-to-fizzle

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481266-senate-drama-surrounding-trump-trial-starts-to-fizzle
Senate drama surrounding Trump trial starts to fizzle
With the outcome of a Senate vote President Trump's impeachment all but completely certain to end with his acquittal, the dramatic atmosphere surrounding his trial at the Capitol is quickly fizzling.
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[03-Feb-20 11:50 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/edolinsky/status/1222809221978300417?s=09

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[03-Feb-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
this was supposed to be an insult ||https://twitter.com/jitotweets/status/1223293475795480579 || but is actually genuinely hot

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How #HotBoysForBernie have sex
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[03-Feb-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
(nsfw)


[04-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/481242-why-the-2020-winning-ticket-includes-michael-bloomberg

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Why the 2020 winning ticket includes Michael Bloomberg
He is the one candidate with a chance to win.
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[04-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The winning ticket is Michael Bloomberg and Kamala Harris."
This is the only time I'll ever say this but "Holy shit, give me Biden"


[04-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
I mean


[04-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
you're not wrong, benny boy


[04-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
the US was quite literally founded on slavery


[04-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
because it appeased the south


[04-Feb-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good boy, Benny boy


[04-Feb-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here's a cookie for understanding


[04-Feb-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141

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[04-Feb-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
damn boiiiiii


[04-Feb-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If i'm not mistaken the Iowa caucus is usually a very boomer event


[04-Feb-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So this is a very auspicious sign


[04-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/victorlavalle/status/1224445423655383040?s=09

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Wishing Rush Limbaugh the same level of sympathy he displayed for Michael J. Fox. https://t.co/1PBi8FFI3H
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[04-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where is that CNN thing coming from


[04-Feb-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a cnn tv shot


[04-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary barely won Iow in the 2016 primaries


[04-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yeah that's a huge Bernie swing.


[04-Feb-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnn1/


[04-Feb-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep it;s a screencap from their tv feed


[04-Feb-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden caucus: 28


[04-Feb-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people or pecent?


[04-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People


[04-Feb-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden only has 28 voters so far?


[04-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a viability count


[04-Feb-20 12:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the satellite caucus (the election for those who can't make it to the 7pm main caucus)


[04-Feb-20 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only one Biden voter showed up


[04-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie wins *narrowly*, 538 puts his chances of overall winning at 46%


[04-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if Biden is struggling, then hoo boy.


[04-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Question, what stops another state from having a caucus/primary before Iowa


[04-Feb-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when does the vote happen?


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
States hav laws that say their primaries happen at certain times...even relative to other states


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
8 PM EST


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it can cause a cascade of bullshit if a state tries to go before Iowa.


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What stops Florida from saying "Our primary is January 1"


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another state would say "our primary happens before Florida's by X days"


[04-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they'd roll it into the previous year


[04-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
which would then make everyone really pissed off


[04-Feb-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
watchnewslive really does not like working for me


[04-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
what does "viability count" mean?


[04-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses are complicated, they aren't just a vote.


[04-Feb-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/02/iowa-caucus-how-iowa-caucuses-work-and-terms-know-definitions/4588880002/

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Iowa caucus: What is a delegate equivalent? Or a viability thresho...
Monday night's Iowa caucuses have high stakes. Here's what you need to know about how a caucus works and some terms you'll hear as results come in.
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[04-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically people stand in groups by candidate


[04-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
undecideds MUST choose a candidate eventually, going around asking people to argue for their candidate


[04-Feb-20 12:53 AM] ononim#8141

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[04-Feb-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Democratic caucusgoers gather in groups to pick their preferred candidate. They are counted up, and it’s determined whether a candidate group is viable or not viable.

If a candidate group is not viable, caucusgoers have a couple options: Join another group, convince people to come to their group, or caucus in the uncommitted group. (Don't laugh: The uncommitted group technically won the Iowa caucuses in 1972 and 1976.)

Then a final tally is counted. From there, delegates are awarded to the candidates, based proportionally on how many supporters those groups had.

More:Could multiple candidates 'win' the Iowa Democratic caucus? New rules make it possible.


[04-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
After half an hour, they chekk viability by where people stand.


[04-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need 15% to be viable


[04-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
so if there are more than 6 people, that 1 guy is FORCED to leave Biden.


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Queen Creek, AZ: First results


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Klobuchar- 33.5%


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg 24.7%


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden 18.4%


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren 15.8%


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders 4.4%


[04-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Queen Creek must be nuts


[04-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren just barely viable tho


[04-Feb-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is klobuchar's platform?


[04-Feb-20 12:57 AM] ononim#8141
>dna test ad


[04-Feb-20 12:57 AM] ononim#8141
good fucking lord


[04-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
> Democrats move around the caucus site — for example, supporters of former Vice President Joe Biden will gather in one corner and backers of Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts others. At most Democratic caucus locations, a candidate must get support from at least 15 percent of attendees to achieve viability. If that threshold isn't met, a candidate's supporters must realign to a different viable candidate or join with other nonviable groups to form a viable preference group. (One of those preference groups could be "uncommitted.") And the number of delegates awarded at each caucus site is determined by a mathematical formula. So get out your calculators!
> 
> In a change from past Democratic caucuses, the party will release three sets of results: "the first expression of preference" before the realignment, the "final expression of preference" after realignment and state delegate equivalents (the number used to determine the "winner" in past results). The final expression number — rather than the first expression — is used to determine who gets delegates and who doesn't.


[04-Feb-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[04-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
describing how the caucus works


[04-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
> Another change: Only members of nonviable groups will be allowed to realign. In the past, candidates who had initially hit 15 percent could lose supporters in the realignment. But for this cycle, the initial 15 percent support gets locked in.
> 
> Unlike the Democrats, Republicans select their candidate via a simple secret ballot. There is no shuffling from one corner of the caucus site to the other. There is no 15 percent viability or realignment. And there's no mathematical formula to determine delegates awarded at each caucus site.


[04-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
from this article <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/what-iowa-caucus-process-how-does-iowa-caucus-work-n1127886>


[04-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar's platform is she's good at getting left-leaning bills passed.


[04-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's basically discount Warren


[04-Feb-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah great value warren


[04-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's the one you want to hav sneak things past McConnell without anyone noticing.


[04-Feb-20 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Deciding between Pete and Bernie


[04-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
bruh


[04-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/donald-trump-mike-bloomberg-feud

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Report: Trump Is Melting Down Over Bloomberg Ads About His Weight
The president is also reportedly terrified of the ex-mayor’s arsenal of cash.
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[04-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[04-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
trump's inferiority complex is rearing its ugly little head


[04-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
and its tiny little hands


[04-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So isn't Iowa having a Republican caucus too?


[04-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, the trump line


[04-Feb-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where the choices are Trump, and... people who dont want to vote for trump


[04-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Trump's campaign is in control of the Republican caucus meetings.


[04-Feb-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/3/21116006/iowa-republican-caucus-results-2020

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[04-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc the buttigieg people


[04-Feb-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently yes, but they arent nationalizing it because that would imply that trump has competition


[04-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie people hanging out by the White Claw lel


[04-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Warren people, no one's really filled in over there"


[04-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol that mike sign


[04-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hastily taped


[04-Feb-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucing christ with this player


[04-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
mike sign?


[04-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
a little "mike" sign in the corner in one of the caucus locations


[04-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause Michael Bloomberg put like no effort into Iowa, but SOMEONE had to shill.


[04-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It begins.


[04-Feb-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 Klobuchar surprises everyone by gaining 95% of the vote


[04-Feb-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
KLOB GANG


[04-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ClareMalone/status/1224485118271803392

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We can confirm the final results of the unreleased Iowa Poll: 

Sanders 22%

Warren 18%

Buttigieg 16%

Biden 13%

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[04-Feb-20 02:04 AM] ononim#8141
get got grandpa sniff


[04-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lots of Sanders


[04-Feb-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no, actually all those names spell "Klobuchar"


[04-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden's group is smaller than Yang...


[04-Feb-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Klob!


[04-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez this might be bad for Biden


[04-Feb-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[04-Feb-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51332541

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Trump lifts restrictions on US landmine use
US forces will now be free to use anti-personnel landmines worldwide "in exceptional circumstances".
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[04-Feb-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yuuuge deal to get the landmine trade going!


[04-Feb-20 02:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yea. blow up them kids and farmers.
Speaking of blowing up kids and farmers. Brits are at it again trying to make soldiers immune.
https://youtu.be/jNV5MWbkMoQ
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Immunity for soldiers e-petition debate - 20 May 2019
MPs debate a petition about immunity for soldiers. The debate will be opened by Damien Moore MP, a member of the Petitions Committee.

View the petition and the Government response:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/243947

Why is this petition being debated?

The Pet...
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Today in Parliament - 03/02/2020 - BBC Sounds
News, views and features on today's stories in Parliament with Sean Curran.
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[04-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In some places Yang is doing better than Biden...


[04-Feb-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie picture of mike sign pls?


[04-Feb-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't screencap it


[04-Feb-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was pathetic


[04-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mike in blue text on a white sign, next to a door, nobody around


[04-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[04-Feb-20 02:39 AM] illumnious#7938
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America's character is on the ballot. I don't believe we're the dark, angry nation we see in Donald Trump's tweets — we are so much better than who he thinks we are.
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[04-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[04-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"First alignment results from Johnston: Sanders 76, Klobuchar 75, Buttigieg 70, Warren 59. Not viable: Biden 37, Yang 33, Steyer 4, Gabbard 4."


[04-Feb-20 03:04 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-testing-loan-marketplace-goldman-sachs-other-banks-2020-2?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Leaked screenshots show Amazon is testing an online lending market...
Amazon is testing a marketplace where merchants can choose loans Goldman Sachs and other lenders, Business Insider has learned.
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[04-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1224506909585281025

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Widespread reports of Joe Biden barely/not viable in types of precincts he should be to have any type of chance. Having a hard time seeing him in top three...long way to go.
Twitter


[04-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
I think biden would get more votes if he just went on national television begging people to vote for him than all the stuff his campaign is doing right now


[04-Feb-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love that today of all days he was like "Oh yeah, i;d totally work with the GOP senators everyone hates. I dont see them as an issue"


[04-Feb-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He is a master of bad timing


[04-Feb-20 03:23 AM] ononim#8141
Okay, lads, lasses and everyone else, place your bets who will Grandpa Joe endorse. Klob, ~~Rat boy~~ Buttigeg or Warren?


[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren.


[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who will then endorse Sanders in a betrayal.


[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Klobuchar 106, Sanders 83, Buttigieg 81, Warren 69. Warren picked up most Biden supporters after he was not viable."


[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Warren number


[04-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nice


[04-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay why do they keep saying "Pete Bootyjudge"?


[04-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boot edge edge


[04-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is that how it is actually pronounced?


[04-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man what does third or fourth place in Iowa mean for Biden


[04-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are desperate for anything but Biden.


[04-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"At a G.O.P. caucus site in Cedar Rapids, two people vote for Mitt Romney for president, eliciting groans from the overwhelmingly pro-Trump crowd."


[04-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh good John Delaney dropped out of the race


[04-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sorry, Bill from King of the Hill never had a chance


[04-Feb-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/enlc26v27te41.jpg

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[04-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bootyjedge.


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bootyjedge.


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
why.


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Maltese.


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
you know he knows a lot about coming in from behind


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
:twismug:


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh,


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It means "Owner of chickens"


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's actually


[04-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
boutyjidge


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
boot edge edge


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everyone on the news pronounces it wrong.


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most saying bootyjudge


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
some saying bootyjedge


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://youtu.be/HuS37liPPxY?t=61

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS37liPPxY&start=61
Pete Buttigieg Made Stickers to Help Pronounce His Name
Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg gives out stickers to help people sound out his difficult-to-pronounce name on the campaign trail. The former South Bend mayor made the revelation during an exclusive interview with Inside Edition's Deborah Norville. He also ta...
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[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not how HE says it!


[04-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He says Boutyjidge


[04-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is infuriating.


[04-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Second alignment results from Dubuque’s 19th: Sanders 79 (+5); Warren 70 (+15); Buttigieg 61 (+14); Biden 50 (+4). Warren and Pete the big gainers."


[04-Feb-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least it's better than "butt-geeg"


[04-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUTTYGEEG is so much better tho.


[04-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a name that comes from Sicilian Arabic


[04-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, to fix the stikker


[04-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And we all know how Arabic translates


[04-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boo~~k~~t Idge Idge.


[04-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_English_close_front_vowels

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Phonological history of English close front vowels
The close and mid-height front vowels of English (vowels of i and e type) have undergone a variety of changes over time, often varying from dialect to dialect.


[04-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See "Pin-pen merger"


[04-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
People do that to EDGE?


[04-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
gdi


[04-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard "Idge" yeah


[04-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me he doesn't make boot sound like book with a t


[04-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hear "e" replacing "i" all the time


[04-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mell" instead of "mill," "melk" instead of "milk" etc


[04-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[04-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Boutidgidge.


[04-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how HE says it.


[04-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's how his husband says it too


[04-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
> we learned a lot of things in this last year


[04-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
> we learned how to prounce "bootajudge"


[04-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete Buddha Judge, presidential candidate, @WingbeatPony


[04-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he himself or Chastain actually said that pronunciation was acceptable.


[04-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Close enuff for gov't work.


[04-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[04-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not official yet, prediction

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[04-Feb-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Inaccurate prediction, I see no Jeb!


[04-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
I was about to say, how did Pete get more than Bernie


[04-Feb-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[04-Feb-20 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think Pete's gonna beat Bernie


[04-Feb-20 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't be swayed by apparent tally irregularities


[04-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot of delays.


[04-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Honahue#0656
cause Bernie won and they're trying to figure out how to not have him win


[04-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
the DNC will be a bigger hurdle for Bernie than Trump


[04-Feb-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they don't let him win through regular process, someone is going to find out


[04-Feb-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And if they do, it's gonna be ugly


[04-Feb-20 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far, my hopes remain on the DNC being fully aware that Bernie's their only way to survive


[04-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so apparent that they can't push Biden anymore that I doubt they'll try


[04-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
'NATE SILVER10:33 PM
I told our office in a rather dramatic tone that “I really think this might be … the end of Iowa’s hegemony” and everyone in my office laughed at me.'


[04-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The writing's on the wall.


[04-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Iowa can't tally within the next half hour, the caucus is fukking dead.


[04-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it'll get results, sure


[04-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you mean


[04-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it will never happen again.


[04-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, we were supposed to get results 2 hours ago.


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this time in 2016, 80% of results were in.


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The caucuses are also horrifically white.


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
what would cause a delay


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of it's they're trying to send results by some damn app


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of it's likely due to the huge amount of candidates


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses are meant to be a long argument followed by everyone choosing one candidate


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
not 5


[04-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think there's ever been an Iowa caucus where multiple candidates got above 15%


[04-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar's team apparently thinks something's up


[04-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that they're trying to rig it etc.


[04-Feb-20 04:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/389414260305952768/674096504755191834/Screenshot_20200203-223720_Chrome.jpg

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[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just send a damn email


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
email is insecure


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Honahue#0656
man it'll be great when they dump a bunch of Bernie votes cause they had black sounding names


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that said, the normal route is VIA PHONE


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Honahue no no no


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people don't do caucuses.


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Iowa, yeah probably Natives


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses are like, you and your buddies go to the local school


[04-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you and your white buddies


[04-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Honahue#0656
not like they should say anything about how the government is run


[04-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
blakks can hang around, but they can't talk


[04-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
(they'll never be selected to speak for a candidate group)


[04-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
it's sad too cause Iowa is literally only famous for the caucus, and that's on purpose, and also being Captain Kirk's birthplace


[04-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT0CCaKDxjg

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[04-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
if this was any other country there'd be a UN election delegation sent to investigate this


[04-Feb-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least (some) places have a paper trail for the caucus this year??


[04-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, Bernie forced that.


[04-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wasn't happy with the secrecy in 2016.


[04-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Honahue#0656
good on him


[04-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah cause Hillary won a ton of coin tosses in 2016


[04-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
literal coin tosses for delegates


[04-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie won more coin tosses, but it's still stupid.


[04-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a mess.


[04-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was 90% results in this time 2016.


[04-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav 0%


[04-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely it's a reporting problem and not a problem with the way the precincts run


[04-Feb-20 04:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many people are very scared that the DNC is falsifying the tallies or rigging the caucus


[04-Feb-20 04:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently the DNC app that releases tally information is going theough technical problems at the moment


[04-Feb-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
they really do not want a sanders win, but I kinda doubt that


[04-Feb-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it would be bold, even for them


[04-Feb-20 04:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they do indeed do that, someone will find out


[04-Feb-20 04:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it'd be the end of the party


[04-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay I know you're counting on SC and Super Tuesday but 5th place in Iowa

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[04-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point I can't even think that South Carolina is in the bag for Biden


[04-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
just let Biden go to a retirment home in Martha's Vineyard and tell him he won the presidency


[04-Feb-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
we're about to witness this presidential election unravel, aren't we


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
literally one of the best candidates the democrats have _ever_ had


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The last Iowa caucus for sure.


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
and he's probably not going to make it to the general


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither will Biden.


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be Bloomberg.


[04-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This Iowa showing is pathetic, campaign killing basically


[04-Feb-20 05:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/iowa-democratic-party-reveals-reason-for-lack-of-caucus-results-we-have-experienced-a-delay/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Iowa Democratic Party reveals reason for lack of caucus results: ...
The Iowa Democratic Party put out a statement late Monday evening explaining why caucus results have yet to be released. “The integrity of the results is paramount. We have experienced a delay in the results due to quality checks and the fact that the Iowa Democratic Party ...
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[04-Feb-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://xkcd.com/2030/

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xkcd: Voting Software
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There are lots of very smart people doing fascinating work on cryptographic voting protocols. We should be funding and encouraging them, and doing all our elections with paper ballots until everyone currently working in that field has retired.


[04-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Honahue#0656
The DNC app

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[04-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Honahue#0656
this is what happens when you try to appeal to tech bros


[04-Feb-20 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
After the revolution the techbros will be the first to be beaten with sticks until they admit they don't know what they're doing, especially towards computer voting. Then we return the nation to paper ballot voting like for my union.


[04-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God if this turns out to be a Biden win


[04-Feb-20 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think that's gonna happen


[04-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
this delay is really gonna fuck with him giving a speech considering he's probably mega confused after the sun goes down


[04-Feb-20 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too unsubtle


[04-Feb-20 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Annie_Andersen/status/1224550180470644742?s=20

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https://twitter.com/Annie_Andersen/status/1224550180470644742?s=20
Just in: @iowademocrats release a second statement about the #IACaucus delayed results
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Twitter


[04-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Midnight east coast now, still nothing


[04-Feb-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inconsistencies, yes, quite a word to say "Sanders victory"


[04-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point I think even the people who want to rig know they can't do that


[04-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is like fourth place


[04-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be more legitimate to say Klobuchar or Pete won


[04-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what it looks like they're doing.


[04-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete supposedly has numbers saying he's won.


[04-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're rigging it to Pete.


[04-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How long to Biden drop out now


[04-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
End of March at latest I say.


[04-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[04-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden put out a letter


[04-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying that they shouldn't put out results until AFTER figuring out everything.


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lel


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to fukking bury the results to buy time


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that they can't rig it to Pete.


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Bloomberg isn't basically guaranteed at this point.


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN is having a fukking meltdown lol


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete has too many ups and downs.


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're calling for destroying caucuses


[04-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nate is right again, shit


[04-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So assuming no actual rigging


[04-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that if they report one precinct at a time, it'll go from "BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN" to "SANDERS WINS"


[04-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
With possibly some Pete near the end as things flip flop


[04-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and the party do not want that, it would bomb Biden's campaign.


[04-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they're holding results until everyone's fukking asleep to say Biden hasn't won.


[04-Feb-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/GamerPres2020/status/1224546817578283008

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Fucking lag in Iowa.
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[04-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think this is so bad it might hurt any Dem candidate at this point


[04-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[04-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is meant to soften the blow to Biden


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>irregularities in counting


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were probably planning to rig it


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay but 12 hours from now we'll see "Biden fourth place in Iowa" headlines


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_hrmmms_ are off the fucking chart


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it soon became too much


[04-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Biden in 5th


[04-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it will be relevant for a day but when th truth sinks in


[04-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I found your 64% number for popularity https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

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America’s Most and Least Popular Senators — January 2019
As the 115th Congress came to a close, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was dethroned from his perch as America’s least popular senator – a first in Morning Consult polling.
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[04-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden fifth place


[04-Feb-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm skeptical they wanted to _rig_ it


[04-Feb-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Influence yes


[04-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they for sure wanted to rig it.


[04-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They probably got skittish when Biden support collapsed.


[04-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, this is a short term issue


[04-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What happens in South Carolina now?


[04-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/angry-sanders-supporters-storm-out-of-caucus-calling-it-a-joke-and-waste-of-time

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Angry Bernie Sanders supporters storm out of caucus calling it a '...
DES MOINES, Iowa — Sen. Bernie Sanders's supporters angrily stormed out of a caucus here on Monday night, calling the process a "joke" and a "waste of time" after they started out with more than twice as much support as any other candidate, ending up in a five-way tie, with...
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[04-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
washington examiner doing some actual reporting for once


[04-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than Bloomberg taking out so many ads that no shows can air


[04-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly no results tonight


[04-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
> After the initial vote at the First Presbyterian Church, just Sanders, with 32 votes, and Pete Buttigieg, with 15 votes, met the viability threshold of 13.
> 
> But then, in the second vote, Biden's support started to grow to as high as 16. Because he had votes to spare, his representatives siphoned them off to Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar. As a result, all three just met the viability threshold.
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> After the shift, Sanders ended up with 37% support in the room, Buttigieg had 17%, and the three other campaigns each had just cleared 15%.
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> Since there were only five delegates to be awarded in this caucus location, and under rules no viable candidate can lose their single delegate if they only have one, each of the five campaigns ended up with one delegate apiece. This even though Sanders won by 20 points.


[04-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
bernie is stupidly popular


[04-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
but is being shafted by the caucus system


[04-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
`Warren campaign manager: We're in three-way fight for lead, with Biden a 'distant fourth'`


[04-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing until morning.


[04-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete: "Tonight, Iowa chose a new path."


[04-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joshua Darr: "That's one way to put it, sure."


[04-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 is great.


[04-Feb-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 it will be the new Missouri and we'll look to South Carolina as the first in the nation that matters.


[04-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Honahue#0656
if they aren't trying to actrually rig the results they are now trying to delay the results long enough that the news cycle is about the SOTU address today


[04-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Honahue#0656
hoping it takes the wind out of Bernie's sails and or they hired the writer from Hamilton to write Biden's response


[04-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete is declaring victory


[04-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
ballsy but it's gonna make him look hella stupid


[04-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He means socialism vs. crony capitalism.


[04-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
yes liberalism


[04-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no other form of capitalism than crony capitalism


[04-Feb-20 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna be odd if they wait until morning


[04-Feb-20 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pull an all nighter or it looks bad


[04-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jaylencavil/status/1224531122354298881

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Jaylen (@jaylencavil)
https://twitter.com/jaylencavil/status/1224531122354298881
Des Moines Precinct 80:

Bernie’s group had 101 people 
Pete’s group had 66 people

Bernie & Pete end up tied at 4 delegates following a coin toss.

This is democracy??? 🤔
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[04-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
they're flipping coins


[04-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
again


[04-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Midnight CST


[04-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still nothing


[04-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 07:03 AM] byte[]#2610
um https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/cards-against-humanity-buys-clickhole

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Cards Against Humanity Bought Clickhole
The card game company purchased the comedy website from G/O Media in an all-cash deal, transforming ClickHole into a majority employee-owned company.
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[04-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Click Hole about to become the best independant news organization in the country


[04-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Click Hole also lost a lot of its edge and didn't do a lot for a while


[04-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Honahue#0656
probably cause they were afraid of scaring off investers after some other mass firerings that had happened


[04-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The turmoil among the company didn't help


[04-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though the best Clickhole stuff was always their absurdist comedy that wasn't controversial


[04-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you disagree with having a Gatorade flavor called Bitter Mountain Rush


[04-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
if CAH just leave Clickhole as a line item they just budget every year and never look at again they'll be a better than any of the other news organizations in the country


[04-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
even if all they do is report the news but with added dick jokes


[04-Feb-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No results until Tuesday.


[04-Feb-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's campaign might release their own soon tho.


[04-Feb-20 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have a fucking primary goddamn


[04-Feb-20 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Caucuses are dumb shit


[04-Feb-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Tuesday now.


[04-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of this only helps Sanders though.


[04-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
DNC lighting a fire under itself is great.


[04-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
these obv aren't official


[04-Feb-20 07:22 AM] Honahue#0656
but it'swhat they got


[04-Feb-20 07:22 AM] Opponent#3498
have I mentioned how much I enjoy US' election system? Because I truly do.


[04-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing says 'will of the people' better than multi-stage selection-and-voting process that's more or less impenetrable for the outsiders to understand.


[04-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
HIllary won the popular vote


[04-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that didn't mean a whole lot in the end.


[04-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah electoral college and all that


[04-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Big dick energy move


[04-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Honahue also it's 40% reporting.


[04-Feb-20 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's still better than the less than 2% out


[04-Feb-20 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I hope the UN insists on election monitors for the next caucus


[04-Feb-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Perhaps people are overreacting given the uniqueness of this caucus.


[04-Feb-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There hasn't been one like this ever in Iowa.


[04-Feb-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still feel kinda bad for Steyer in that situation


[04-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So awkward


[04-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that was incredibly awkward


[04-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
also Bernie doesn't do $2000 plate dinners so it's not like he can just buy his way to meeting him again like any other dem canidate


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[04-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
bernie's campaign management looks practically flawless compared to the DNC


[04-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I just realized that this fuck up is going to be used by every check mark Twitter political idiot to justify how much they hate non-costal areas cause a bunch of dumb rednecks screwed up their own caucus cause they couldn't work an app


[04-Feb-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iowa Democratic Party is having a press call


[04-Feb-20 08:02 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Feb-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like how Bloomberg isn't even listed.


[04-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's going to be the standard bearer of the moderates now.


[04-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is done, I don't care if the Iowa results are fucky


[04-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't feel like people want moderates anymore


[04-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
tired of neolib half measures


[04-Feb-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
58% of the caucusers


[04-Feb-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
wanted medicare for all.


[04-Feb-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those types voted Warren/Sanders


[04-Feb-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 36% that wanted current healthcare wanted Biden/Buttigieg


[04-Feb-20 08:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well reading the last several hours of this, the caucus turned into a real shit show huh?


[04-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The results were collected, the reporting is just bad.


[04-Feb-20 08:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Everyone actually in the caucus were havin' a great time


[04-Feb-20 08:38 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who is Jeb?


[04-Feb-20 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Caucuses were not designed for this many candidates.


[04-Feb-20 08:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was a candidate in 2016 who got memed


[04-Feb-20 08:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brother of george bush


[04-Feb-20 08:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Jeb was George W. Bush's even less successful brother who completely failed to get his campaign off the ground


[04-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see, thanks


[04-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
bernie got tied with pete, each with 4 delegates, in one precinct that had 101 people for bernie and 66 people for pete because of a coin toss


[04-Feb-20 08:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[04-Feb-20 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jaylencavil/status/1224531122354298881

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Des Moines Precinct 80:

Bernie’s group had 101 people 
Pete’s group had 66 people

Bernie & Pete end up tied at 4 delegates following a coin toss.

This is democracy??? 🤔
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[04-Feb-20 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
tying when you have 60% of the vote sounds like gerrymandering tbh


[04-Feb-20 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's like a nomination form of gerrymandering


[04-Feb-20 08:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is gerrymandering


[04-Feb-20 08:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, a form of it anyway


[04-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
bernie should've just straight up won 5/8


[04-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
because he won 60.479% of the "vote"


[04-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Crow#5457
and 5/8 is 62.5%


[04-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
but because it wasn't over the exact percentage, they left it to a coin flip


[04-Feb-20 08:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's dumb as shit


[04-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Feb-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in some good news, colorado's insulin price cap went into effect and now insulin there is around $25


[04-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses were designed by rich white fukks in the 19th century


[04-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were meant to come to gentlemen's agreements on who will be the candidate


[04-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were not meant to deal with actually having multiple options.


[04-Feb-20 08:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/ZGZIlRU

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Me Last night when I found out the DNC got with Glootie and developed a F**king voting APP. GDI.
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[04-Feb-20 09:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hashtag #MAYORCHEAT is now trending apparently


[04-Feb-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1224561674679488513

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Three different sources say a firm called "Shadow" developed the Iowa Dem caucus app. They haven't responded to comment, neither has Iowa Dem Party. The firm was paid by both Nevada & Iowa Democratic Party, disclosures show. Also by Mayor Pete's campaign.
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[04-Feb-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
uhhhhh


[04-Feb-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1224572119549267968

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Huffington Post's @Robillard is confirming that it was Shadow that created the app. https://t.co/q9bfZxBXUK
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[04-Feb-20 09:16 AM] Crow#5457
UHHHHHHHHHH


[04-Feb-20 09:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good fucking god


[04-Feb-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
MAYOR CHEAT


[04-Feb-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the DNC was trying to rig it away from Bernie, Pete's trying to rig it for himself, and Biden's trying to delay the loss.


[04-Feb-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute clusterfukk.


[04-Feb-20 09:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile bernie;s team actually took a headcount for everyone to make sure some accurate data got released


[04-Feb-20 09:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if the data clashes from the shadow app and the bernie team, there;s going to be an absolute shitstorm


[04-Feb-20 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
grab your popcorn folks, tomorrows gonna get fun


[04-Feb-20 09:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today?... the semantics of 3:30am


[04-Feb-20 09:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/what-we-know-about-app-iowa-caucuses-into-chaos-2020-2

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What we know about the app that threw the Iowa caucuses into chaos
The Iowa Caucuses were thrown into chaos after reporting was delayed following "inconsistencies" in voter data reported through a new mobile app.
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[04-Feb-20 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/berningman16/status/1224559522011910145

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@zachhammer I was a Iowa Bernie Precinct Captain tonight. We are reporting all of the data through the app or we called the Bernie Hotline with results.

We were told to take pictures of the official tally sheets. We got this under control in case there is fuckery by the D...
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[04-Feb-20 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481320-buttigieg-hints-at-victory-in-iowa-speech

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Buttigieg says Iowa 'shocked the nation' in caucus night speech
Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg said Iowa "had shocked the nation" in a caucus night address that sounded like a victory speech despite the lack of results in a nominating contest riddled with reporting inconsistencies.&
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[04-Feb-20 10:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/A_3jrcOumSnSVAxFYt9ewqQ

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As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pr...
During the national anthem at his annual Super Bowl party in West Palm Beach, a video shows President Donald Trump pointing and pretending to conduct the band as the first lady and others stood at attention.
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[04-Feb-20 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
mayor cheat is already celebrating


[04-Feb-20 10:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is, i don't think his team has gotten word that people realize he paid for the voting app yet


[04-Feb-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's in for a rude awakening tomorrow morning.


[04-Feb-20 10:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if his name comes out on top and the DNC still supports him and tries to play it off as a lucky result, heads will roll and large scale demands will be made


[04-Feb-20 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article239913588.html


[04-Feb-20 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, already posted


[04-Feb-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are we sure he still realizes he;s president? he acts more like an insane retirement home patient


[04-Feb-20 12:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His mind is a mystery


[04-Feb-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-enigma-mind-spilled-milk-gif-14187434

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[04-Feb-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was born with a silver spoon and surrounded himself by so many yes-men for so long that his grasp of reality was probably lost decades ago


[04-Feb-20 12:56 PM] ononim#8141

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[04-Feb-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let's absolutely not


[04-Feb-20 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
?


[04-Feb-20 01:11 PM] Crow#5457
you mean give trump a death note?


[04-Feb-20 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[04-Feb-20 01:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is an official manga


[04-Feb-20 01:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And don't worry @prism stryder(intexda) , the first thing he'd do is sign it


[04-Feb-20 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481327-sanders-leading-in-new-hampshire-ahead-of-primary-poll

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Sanders leading in New Hampshire ahead of primary: poll
Sen.
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[04-Feb-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i want to read this new chapter


[04-Feb-20 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/headfallsoff/status/1224558755972558848?s=21

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so we take the number of voters and divide by the number of delegates. compensating for viability threshold of 15% we then perform what’s called a second alignment. but if you clip out of bounds on that exact frame you do caucus skip [applause] think we have time for don...
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[04-Feb-20 01:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://meaww.com/pete-buttigieg-emerges-villain-after-iowa-caucuses-as-his-links-to-counting-app-surface

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Pete Buttigieg emerges as 'villain' at Iowa caucuses after his lin...
His campaign reportedly donated $42,500 to the firm that developed the app that caused result delay
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[04-Feb-20 01:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear to god


[04-Feb-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully this gets real fun in 2 hours and 40 minutes


[04-Feb-20 01:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Pete is caught red handed trying to rig the primaries...


[04-Feb-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he played his hand too soon and now everyone has found all his connections to the app and developer


[04-Feb-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for that victory lap he took, people might just have blamed this on the DNC themselves


[04-Feb-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he got cocky


[04-Feb-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i have college... bleh, i hope i dont miss anything huge while i;m gone


[04-Feb-20 02:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Feb-20 02:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmmm


[04-Feb-20 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
four images


[04-Feb-20 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
loss?


[04-Feb-20 03:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1224698661256347648?s=21

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You had [number delayed] job, Iowa.
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[04-Feb-20 03:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article239913588.html


[04-Feb-20 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/04/after-epic-nightmare-iowa-democratic-app-built-secretive-firm-shadow-inc-comes-under?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook

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After Epic 'Nightmare' in Iowa, Democratic App Built by Secretive ...
"This outfit is inexcusably secretive."
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[04-Feb-20 03:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Epic nightmare


[04-Feb-20 03:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The results are all there, just the reporting is fucked.


[04-Feb-20 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/teamtrump/status/1224545120315375617?s=21

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Meanwhile...

President @realDonaldTrump CRUSHED all incumbent turnout records in Iowa! 

#IACaucus
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[04-Feb-20 03:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plans are to release today.


[04-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-20 03:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
12 hours late at this point.


[04-Feb-20 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
Chris: _Oh my God Nina you can't just call a billionaire an oligarch_ 😢 https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbc-panel-flips-out-after-bernie-sanders-adviser-nina-turner-calls-bloomberg-an-oligarch

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MSNBC Flips Out After Bernie Sanders Adviser Calls Bloomberg an ...
Things got extremely heated on the MSNBC set when Nina Turner wouldn't back down after calling Mike Bloomberg an oligarch.
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[04-Feb-20 04:06 PM] Opponent#3498
byte that is gorgeous. Perfection.


[04-Feb-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
the 'what if consistent reporting style' post.


[04-Feb-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, I think it's fantastic that Boomberg gets called for what he is too


[04-Feb-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
but the reporting thing is top notch


[04-Feb-20 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Its https://theweek.com/speedreads/893493/trump-reportedly-hoping-lock-john-bolton

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Trump is reportedly hoping to lock up John Bolton
President Trump's list of foes is getting longer by the day, with Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe, Crazy Bernie, and Nervous Nancy needing to make room for World War 6 John.
Vanity Fair's Gabriel Sherman reports that he has spoken to several Republicans who say Trump is keeping t...
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-996943686_0.jpg?itok=zhbwoWgl


[04-Feb-20 04:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[04-Feb-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's new campaign slogan, "Lock america up tight!"


[04-Feb-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481353-buttigieg-defends-declaring-victory-in-iowa

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Buttigieg defends declaring victory in Iowa
Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg defended his decision to basically declare victory in Iowa on Monday night despite the lack of firm results, telling MSNBC that his internal numbers justified the decision.
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[04-Feb-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
truly biggest brain moment


[04-Feb-20 04:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
The CIA trained him well


[04-Feb-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be as obvious as possible


[04-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/djjudd/status/1224678362767069185?s=21

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After his coffee with Nashua Mayor Jim Donchess, I asked Pete Buttigieg if it was premature to declare a victory in Iowa last night. He declined to respond. https://t.co/QiiBilRP2C
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[04-Feb-20 05:01 PM] ononim#8141
Remember when Beto was a big candidate


[04-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[04-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i pretty much remember biden being the big candidate from the start


[04-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i also didn't start keeping up to date until the herd started thinning


[04-Feb-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224722351125823491?s=21

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Market up big today on very good economic news. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
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[04-Feb-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
...what is he even doing?


[04-Feb-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
at this point everyone knows the market good life good ploy is a ruse


[04-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except for his supporters


[04-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is who he;s tweeting at


[04-Feb-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the thing, his supporters dont do any research for themselves, as long as a radio or youtube jockey says his data is correct, they'll go with it


[04-Feb-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He's a business man, he knows what he;s talking about!"


[04-Feb-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They also don't seem to realize the stock market is not the economy, going by the few i've talked to


[04-Feb-20 05:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Stock Market is the temple through which America worships the Economy as God


[04-Feb-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of them are also in trade positions such as hvac, or electrician. so they are massively unaware the job status outside their jobs as long as they keep making "bank" off those trades they'll probably keep wearing blinders because they dont have to flip burgers or do retail


[04-Feb-20 05:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tfw the bulk of your economy and employment rate sits on the shoulders of minimum wage service sector employees.


[04-Feb-20 05:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
WHERE'S YOUR DIRTY JOBS EPISODE ABOUT MCDONALDS AND HOME DEPOT, MIKE ROWE


[04-Feb-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their usual response to being told "These service jobs should be getting paid a living wage" is "There's no such thing as a living wage" "they should just move up and go to trade school"


[04-Feb-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Young people just don't want to work these days"


[04-Feb-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile they go out and eat fast food by the tons...


[04-Feb-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then never question anything about who's making it for them


[04-Feb-20 05:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Number big life good


[04-Feb-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ljw7k1jdnxe41.jpg

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[04-Feb-20 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Might be a bit of an exaggeration at this point


[04-Feb-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, it makes dems look like fools


[04-Feb-20 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you think fifth place in Iowa is going to do regardless


[04-Feb-20 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't run even a local sub election


[04-Feb-20 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a nothing burger.


[04-Feb-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really, it also shines a huge spotlight on the background fuckery going on in the democratic party


[04-Feb-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the fact that the clinton foundation, and pete buttguy both funded the app developed by an ex CIA developer


[04-Feb-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
> So, having done some checking, I’ve discovered via NPR’s podcast this morning that the party added a new procedure this year where everyone at the caucus is required to fill out a card that has their vote. This is to ensure accuracy and integrity in case reporting fails and in case of a recount and is in addition to the existing paper trail. This is what they’re manually checking and cross-referencing now and is why the reporting is taking so long.


[04-Feb-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theapp is unreliable, so they have to manually do shit now woo


[04-Feb-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
at least they had a backup


[04-Feb-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, and the bernie team even made sure to back that shit up too


[04-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Want to know something funny


[04-Feb-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile buttgieg is stuck with a disingenuous smile and forced to own his victory lap because he took it way too early and knows people are probably onto him now


[04-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
NYT has a quiz that's basically "Which candidate should you vote for?"


[04-Feb-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It has a little animation showing your choice going into a ballot box


[04-Feb-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With a hanging chad


[04-Feb-20 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
virgin chad


[04-Feb-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/leftistthot420/status/1224553637717925890?s=19

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Joe Biden: Tell me how the primaries are going, Barack. Tell me again how they're going.

Barack Obama, loading a .38 revolver: They're going just great Joe. You're up 10 points, maybe even more. I'm even going to give you an endorsement tomorrow.
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[04-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/catholicdad420/status/1224703784825315329?s=20

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Hehehehe answer my riddles three, and I will release the Iowa caucus results to thee!
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[04-Feb-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
#voteofthepeople


[04-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
was it always this overt? Or Trump just brings _everything_ to light at once?


[04-Feb-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was sort of a slow uphill thing until2016 when everyone hit the gas instead of the breaks and crashed screaming into a wall


[04-Feb-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/QAnonPastryChef/status/1224744372710887432

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QAnon’s Pastry Chef (@QAnonPastryChef)
https://twitter.com/QAnonPastryChef/status/1224744372710887432
The key phrase here is, “...should it mater if they’re homosexual if you believe in what they say?” Too bad the Democrat Party doesn’t apply that same logic & rationale to the color WHITE. @DNC @GOP @KellyannePolls @WhiteHouse @POTUS #IowaCaucas #Qanon 
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[04-Feb-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://t.co/2ST8m5udsD?amp=1

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Warren surrogate rips Buttigieg for declaring victory | TheHill | ...
A surrogate for Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) 2020 presidential campaign ripped former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for declaring victory in Iowa despite a lack of official results.
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[04-Feb-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481408-first-iowa-results-expected-at-5-pm-est

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First Iowa results expected at 5 pm EST
The chairman of the Democratic Party in Iowa told the presidential campaigns on Tuesday to expect that a “majority” of the caucus results will be released at 5 p.m. EST, according to a source on the call.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/iowa_020420getty.jpg


[04-Feb-20 06:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
19 hours late.


[04-Feb-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe even more


[04-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's for ~50% of the results


[04-Feb-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
5pm: The winner is Hillary Clinton! somehow


[04-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
Jeb!


[04-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Feb-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Feb-20 07:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224722351125823491?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224722351125823491?s=21
Market up big today on very good economic news. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
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[04-Feb-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the jorbs sure did go


[04-Feb-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boy they sure did


[04-Feb-20 07:05 PM] illumnious#7938
That old fag Trump


[04-Feb-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
see, what i think is that jobs is a typo and it actually says "JEB, JEB, JEB!"


[04-Feb-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
rip https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/03/asia/coronavirus-doctor-whistle-blower-intl-hnk/index.html

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This Chinese doctor tried to save lives, but was silenced. Now he ...
On December 30, Li Wenliang dropped a bombshell in his medical school alumni group on the popular Chinese messaging app WeChat: seven patients from a local seafood market had been diagnosed with a SARS-like illness and quarantined in his hospital.
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[04-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481417-rand-paul-reads-alleged-whistleblowers-name-on-senate-floor

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Rand Paul reads alleged whistleblower's name on Senate floor
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) read the name of the alleged whistleblower at the center of the House impeachment inquiry on the Senate floor Tuesday.
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[04-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have the Sargeant take him out in handcuffs


[04-Feb-20 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nevada-caucuses-shadow-app-iowa_n_5e3983f3c5b6ed0033acec80

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Nevada Democrats Ditch App That Caused Chaos In Iowa Caucuses
The state was set to use the same app that caused so many problems in Iowa's caucuses, but decided to change course Tuesday.
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[04-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Honahue#0656
hopefully they don't replace it with something even worse


[04-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Honahue#0656
who would have thought a New York base tech consulting company staffed entirely with people with Ivy League education and VERY impressive resumes would be so gow awful at writing an app


[04-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Opponent#3498
they're very good at writing it. It had a specific purpose.


[04-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it fulfilled it


[04-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Opponent#3498
well, kind of.


[04-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it wasn't subtle enough.


[04-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Opponent#3498
although that was perhaps operator error.


[04-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Honahue#0656
amazing that a high price app scam was undone by some blue hair grandma in in Iowa solving a basic math problem


[04-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481418-alexander-declines-to-endorse-censure-of-trump#

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Alexander declines to endorse censure of Trump
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) – who in a statement last week called President Trump's conduct “inappropriate" – has shown no inclination to also endorse a resolution formally censuring Trump.
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[04-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Y tho


[04-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You just said it was bad a few days ago


[04-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Midknight#9798
becuz partisan shills flip flop as they want to


[04-Feb-20 07:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Alright lads, just in case Iowa turns into Bleeding Kansas 2: Iowan Bugaloo I need to know: where we droppin'?
> 
> https://www.maps-of-the-usa.com/maps/usa/iowa/large-detailed-roads-and-highways-map-of-iowa-state-with-all-cities.jpg
> 
> Bernie's Zoomer Army will need help to  c l e a n s e   t h e   r a t s

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[04-Feb-20 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Feb-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking by this point the GOP might use the possibility of one amongst them being the whistleblower to put peer pressure on GOP politicians not toeing the Trump line


[04-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Paul of all people should know what happens when you try to intimidate someone like this.


[04-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if we can just openly do whistleblower intimidation now


[04-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
what's stopping a gofundme to murder Rand Paul?


[04-Feb-20 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pirates and emperors.


[04-Feb-20 08:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because that could be seen as a call for violence on a person or persons.


[04-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When one guy loots and robs with one ship, he's called a pirate


[04-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do it with a great fleet, you're an emperor


[04-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
its more overt than just mentioning a person's name.


[04-Feb-20 08:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make Jacksonian threats of violence a part of democracy again


[04-Feb-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Electile dysfunction


[04-Feb-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you mention a person's name in the context of HEY THIS WAS THE GUY THAT TRIED TO REVEAL US, it's rather different.


[04-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't for a MOMENT pretend that what Rand Paul did is acceptable.


[04-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They want his execution, yes we get it.


[04-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people you steelman.


[04-Feb-20 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, what Rand Paul did was *illegal*


[04-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[04-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Illegal and wrong.


[04-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Psker was implying that "only mentioning the guy's name" is totes okay.


[04-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, it's less overt


[04-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All this effort to murder him and no one has found his house or anything


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the goal


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the law isn't about how OVERT you are about murdering people


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do they realize how bad that would look


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want it, Its


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want him dead as a warning.


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Alleged Trump whistleblower found dead in Maryland home"


[04-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because like, under normal conditions, that'd lose Trump support


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
these aren't normal conditions


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've actually heard people say that anyone who crosses Trump is cursed to die


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
everyone who thought killing liberals is wrong abandoned Trump by 2017


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah that Montana guy


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Montana GOP demands his resignation


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He refused


[04-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there is no longer any penalty for Trump to just demand people be murdered.


[04-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing that is a penalty is the no witness trial


[04-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's really hard to spin that in a way that independents will agree with.


[04-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be a landslide when it's squeaky clean Bernie vs. bloodied hands Trump


[04-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause yeah Trump succeeded in slandering Biden


[04-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but only Biden


[04-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it turns out that might've killed Biden in the primary


[04-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I was thinking it might actually boost Biden just cause more name recognition and people pikking sides


[04-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Bernie is perhaps too big a lightning rod


[04-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What about Pete


[04-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, le undecided voter sees the shitshow, goes "wait Bernie is saying both these guys are corrupt and doesn't seem to be..."


[04-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is just Biden for people who want Biden but not specifically Biden.


[04-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Among those 36% who said they wanted health insurance to stay the same


[04-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete and Biden were their top choices


[04-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Pete's only accomplishment is he saved his town by building tons of houses for white business owners while demolishing ones for blakk people.


[04-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is just Young Gay Biden


[04-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gayden


[04-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think people will go around Bloomberg too


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is getting nothing from Iowa


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless, centrist vote is split and Warren fades


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's intentional, I mean eventually


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is gonna be a three-way race for a while


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders/Pete/Warren


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
New Hampshire is unlikely to break any of the three.


[04-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, what a shitshow


[04-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden, Klobuchar, and Bloomberg will probably hang on a while


[04-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yang and Steyer exist.


[04-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did Gabbard drop out?


[04-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Didn't Booker get some delegates in Iowa, possibly?


[04-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gabbard didn't no


[04-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, protest votes


[04-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
RCP has the final nomination odds currently as Sanders, Biden, Bloomberg


[04-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In that order


[04-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Will change in about an hour or so


[04-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders wins Iowa it seems

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[04-Feb-20 11:06 PM] ononim#8141
meme but still


[04-Feb-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481435-joe-walsh-ive-realized-nobody-can-beat-trump-in-a-republican-primary

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Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh (R) said Tuesday that he does not believe President Trump can be defeated in a GOP primary.
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[04-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481398-meghan-mccain-slams-buttigieg-for-declaring-iowa-victory-most-millennial

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Meghan McCain slammed 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg for declaring victory in Iowa before any of the delayed caucus results were available, calling it "the most millennial move he could pull."
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[04-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking no no no


[04-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie won the vote


[04-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
But if what I'm seeing is correct


[04-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg won more coin flips


[04-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is EXTREMELY suspect.


[04-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, Bernie won the vote so far


[04-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So we hav, 4 years after Hillary suspiciously won narrowly


[04-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of her team working for Pete


[04-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
making an app that then has a "bug" the day results need to be sent


[04-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and he declares victory early with early info


[04-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
62% in right now


[04-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then it seems like Sanders got screwed on delegates.


[04-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mayor Cheat.


[04-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Get ready for a 1968 2.0.


[04-Feb-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
538 is saying that these results boost Bernie massively


[04-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
At only the expense of Biden and No One


[04-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still saying 4% of nomination


[04-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, you don't get it


[04-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa's media coverage changes every subsequent race.


[04-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a massive warping effect to the primary process.


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa is 4% of the nomination, but second-biggest for getting it.


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So how does this help Sanders


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Biden was the expected winner of Iowa


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden CAME FOURTH


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Distant fourth


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders nearly, or possibly did, win


[04-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means Biden's support is evaporating


[04-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once people are actually pushed to vote, they forsake him.


[04-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This could kill Biden's whole campaign.


[04-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was already not favored to win New Hampshire


[04-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is the BIGGEST for getting the nomination


[04-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Sanders is 2nd in Iowa, 1st in New Hampshire, Biden **loses the nomination**


[04-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The expectation was Biden wins Iowa, comes behind Sanders in NH, long fight ensues


[04-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's been blown to smithereens.


[04-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[04-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Biden is just as mentaly gone as Trump he's just slightly less of an asshole


[04-Feb-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what especially came just before the caucus that probably blew out part of his supporter base was the fact that he came out in favor of the senate GOP when his goal is to defeat Trump


[04-Feb-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you work with them, you arent defeating Trump


[04-Feb-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you're just shifting him


[04-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/481489-republicans-urging-gop-voters-to-vote-for-sanders-in-south-carolina-primary-report

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Republicans urging GOP voters to vote for Sanders in South Carolin...
State Republican leaders in South Carolina are urging GOP voters to vote for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the state's Feb. 29 Democratic primary.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_111419gn_lead.jpg


[04-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This won't backfire


[04-Feb-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being this wrong


[04-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The appeal is "Intentionally ugly and imposing"


[04-Feb-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archpaper.com/2020/02/trump-draft-executive-order-neoclassical-style/

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Potential executive order might force neoclassical style on federa...
Architectural Record has obtained a draft executive order of the President's plan to make all future federal buildings in keeping with neoclassical style.
https://cdn.archpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/47677594631_4affb17132_k-e1580847986564.jpg


[04-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's just dumb.


[04-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, what if neoclassical doesn't liv up to modern safety standards in earthquakes?


[04-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
wtf do you do then?


[04-Feb-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
brush it off and say people are dumb for questioning his brilliant leadership


[05-Feb-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then hope a neoclassical building collapses on trump after he passes this


[05-Feb-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He isnt going for safety with this, he wants to look like a roman emperor or a supreme nazi commander whenever he stands on a flight of stairs or a balcony, and gives his speeches


[05-Feb-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cant do that when the futuristic architecture is working against him and making him look more like a shining beacon of hope instead of a supreme commader you should fear


[05-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Honahue#0656

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[05-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Honahue#0656
:ponythinking:


[05-Feb-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked, truly


[05-Feb-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you knwow hats going to be fun for the DNC?


[05-Feb-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when the sanders team puts out all the data from those areas


[05-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Geeze, CNN having a Pete dick-sucking session at the same time as MSNBC spends half an hour shitting on Sanders


[05-Feb-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they do


[05-Feb-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if pete was on either channel right now for an interview it woudl devolve into literal porn


[05-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
mayor cheat is stealing iowa


[05-Feb-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is...


[05-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
our country is literally screwed if bernie doesn't win the nomination


[05-Feb-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and of course, the math on that makes zero sense


[05-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
he's absurdly popular


[05-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
he might not win the general election, but if he doesn't win the nomination, it's irrefutable proof that the US going to be a failed state in 50-60ish years


[05-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/03/mexico-second-monarch-butterfly-sanctuary-worker-found-murdered

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Second monarch butterfly sanctuary worker found dead in Mexico
Body of part-time tour guide Raúl Hernández found days after that of reserve manager Homero Gómez González in Michoacán
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[05-Feb-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this doesnt sound political, though it does sound liek the monarchs have begun to revolt


[05-Feb-20 12:29 AM] Honahue#0656
America is already the worlds richest 3rd world nation


[05-Feb-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good bye america, it;s been a long but terrible run


[05-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
I wish I could get rid of the new discord thing with top used emojis for reacting


[05-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's useless clutter


[05-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
if I wanted to react to a post, I'll click on the react button to find an emoji


[05-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is only on browser


[05-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
I really like the hover over change to see when something was posted by line instead of having a mass of stuff that you can't tell when it was posted if it was posted like 6-7 minutes later


[05-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
no, it's on the native app now too


[05-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrm, A/B testing it, I guess


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
overall, I like the change


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
I just wish I could get rid of it recommending my three top used emojis


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
which are :caw:, :sad:, and :murder:


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't see a change here, but at work I had a god damned massive watermelon and 100 emoji floating over anything I hovered over


[05-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've never even used those two


[05-Feb-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine seem to be :nut: :pudding: :shrugpony:


[05-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
HAHAHA HOLY FUCK


[05-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Heterodoxious/status/1224580848319488000

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This is not looking good. https://t.co/QgZXWcOPQy
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[05-Feb-20 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has pete announced who he plans to have as a running mate if he gets nominated yet?


[05-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think so


[05-Feb-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah good, my conspiracy theory still works then even if it;s nonsensical


[05-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
we already know bernie wants warren to be both VP and treasury secretary simultaneously


[05-Feb-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
inb4 biden


[05-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not just big brain it and have Bernie as VP


[05-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's the only chance he'd have at winning against trump


[05-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
since he's already been shown to be trying to usurp and steal the election like hillary did


[05-Feb-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a weird theory given hillary;s bitter comments and the confidence of buttigieg, that he and hillary are working together behind the scenes


[05-Feb-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it probably doesnt work in reality but it would be predictable as fuck all things considered


[05-Feb-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially given, pete is trying to pull a hillary. who better to coach him on such things


[05-Feb-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm probably wrong on this though


[05-Feb-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481501-biden-allies-spin-after-disappointing-results-trickle-in-from-iowa

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Biden allies spin after disappointing results trickle in from Iowa
Aides and allies to former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday they were frustrated by the results of the Iowa caucus which showed their candidate in fourth place as results began to come in after a lengthy delay.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_02032020getty.jpg


[05-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A tie in terms of delegates at this point


[05-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been 62% reporting for over an hour.


[05-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1224832302922051586

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Some quick math... In the six counties (taking into account % of precincts in) with the lowest attendee to state del ratio, Buttigieg is leading by an average of about 20 pts. In the six counties with highest attendee to state del ratio, it's Sanders by about 20 pts.
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[05-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:democracy:


[05-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It just works


[05-Feb-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
calling it now, if pete wins the nomination. He;s picking hillary as a running mate...


[05-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a stretch


[05-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Picking Hilary as VP is a novel way to commit suicide


[05-Feb-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[05-Feb-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but the democrats are commiting suicide anyway, might as well go whole hog


[05-Feb-20 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Salem4Congress/status/1224839448862609410

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Original tweet.
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[05-Feb-20 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Salem4Congress/status/1224839452121616384

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🌹 Salem Snow For Congress (@Salem4Congress)
https://twitter.com/Salem4Congress/status/1224839452121616384
Info https://t.co/PLVDEhgCAQ
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[05-Feb-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
HA!


[05-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"My fellow Americans, today I am saddened to announce that President Pete was found dead of apparent suicide, having shot himself twice in the chest and once in the head. We are all shaken by this sudden tragedy, but as your new President..."

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[05-Feb-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought trump would destroy the republican party


[05-Feb-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
and he might have


[05-Feb-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
but the democratic party seems more intent on ripping itself to shreds first


[05-Feb-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans in the democratic party really want to hold onto it, regardless if it kills them


[05-Feb-20 01:07 AM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean trump 2020 is inevitable?


[05-Feb-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[05-Feb-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't


[05-Feb-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thing is several candidates saw these shenanigans coming from amile away


[05-Feb-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
assuming everything else isn't rigged, if sanders doesn't get the nomination, we will almost undoubtedly see a trump reelection


[05-Feb-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
chances are it is rigged anyway


[05-Feb-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's not going to matter who we nominate


[05-Feb-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The DNC tried to hide results only for sanders to waltz in and present the missing data


[05-Feb-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Beating trump is a narrow stretch that requires very specific things be met


[05-Feb-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the DNC seems unwilling to go along with any of those requirements


[05-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[05-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
62% reporting still


[05-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would be normal if it were 24 hours ago.


[05-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrmm, didn't Sanders release ~40% of their results yesterday?


[05-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that 40% showed him winning


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wouldn't it be something if that 40% is the part that's missing


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disjoint sets? Oh boooooy


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 62% we hav


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
while it shows Pete winning the actual votes


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
it shows him and Bernie tied for delegates


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also shows very strange allotment


[05-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, Bernie somehow lost votes after final round.


[05-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a weird thing, most of the rural counties for Pete are done


[05-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The cities which have Bernie leading are not done


[05-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the Iowa Democratic Party is figuring out whether they can rig it


[05-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's lawyers are on them HARD


[05-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine the conversation is the sort of thing that were it ever to get out to the public, the Democratic party would burn in a blazing inferno.


[05-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, rank and file voters would just plain say they're a new party and hold their own primary, Pete not invited.


[05-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It probably won't get out, of course.


[05-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But whatever is going on, it has the Iowa Democratic Party scared.


[05-Feb-20 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where's that gif of Sanders sitting in a chair going "boo!"


[05-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You sure that's a thing that happened, or you mean something slightly different?


[05-Feb-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fist table one?


[05-Feb-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah that one


[05-Feb-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, hmm


[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that one


[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI29ccohFCPowxi/giphy.gif

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[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
got it


[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Searching found CNN showing a moment where Sanders got booed for name-dropping MLK when talking about how the federal gov't should sto white nationalism.


[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah


[05-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you mean spooking, not booing.


[05-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Booing is expressing disapproval.


[05-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I guess he did say boo?


[05-Feb-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I express my disapproval with the English language for having only one real exclamation of spook


[05-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
brb taking English out behind the shed.


[05-Feb-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor ol' speller


[05-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fizqAoAnw

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Elisha Haynes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fizqAoAnw
Bernie Socialist Monster
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K9fizqAoAnw/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He actually went "MRAV!"


[05-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why you don't get in Bernie's space.


[05-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmk3VhMTbQ

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Bloomberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmk3VhMTbQ
Bernie Sanders Is Scary
After showing off his monster impression (again) on "With All Due Respect," the senator from Vermont talks with Mark Halperin and John Heilemann about foreign policy and 2016 politics.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hBmk3VhMTbQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
6:13


[05-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reporter asked for it, but was still surprised.


[05-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If elected, Buttigieg would be the nation's first gay president."


[05-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even he doesn't claim that he would be.


[05-Feb-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
openly gay


[05-Feb-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first openly gay president


[05-Feb-20 01:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That would be neat


[05-Feb-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but the novelty kind of dies, when they also have to make all the big executive decisions


[05-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buchanan was probably gay and Lincoln bisexual


[05-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even for the time they were odd


[05-Feb-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same would go for a woman president. yeah, cool they;re a woman/gay. But are thye good at their job?


[05-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More women drone pilots killing brown children


[05-Feb-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama was the first black president but the novelty wore off for most people when the actual job came into play


[05-Feb-20 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rush-limbaugh-state-of-the-union-presidential-medal-of-freedom

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Rush Limbaugh to attend State of the Union address, receive Presid...
Talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh is expected to attend President Trump's State of the Union address Tuesday night, where the president is to announce that Limbaugh will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom in the coming months, a source told Fox News.
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[05-Feb-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course...


[05-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool that Trump's making the Medal of Freedom less valuable than used toilet paper


[05-Feb-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the presidential participation trophy, what an honor


[05-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers devalued trophies.


[05-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The rest of his family all were famous lawyers and judges


[05-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What did Rush do so wrong


[05-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ep about RD's parents was too real.


[05-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being a lawyer or judge doesn't get you fame.


[05-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shilling fascists does.


[05-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man that just reminds me how Lily hates that episode for all the wrong reasons


[05-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure you can guess.


[05-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
are RD's parents fascists?


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it dares explore RD's parents instead of leaving them open?


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was explaining Rush


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
not RD's parents.


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically because it shows both sides as wrong


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She just wants the parents to be wrong for being helicopter parents


[05-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, that's right, Lily hates moral complexity.


[05-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lily's parents basically were good and loved her, and tried to push her to do better


[05-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lily resented that because you know, school distracts from Pokemon porn.

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[05-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[05-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm serious


[05-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She still resents being assigned homework as a twenty something


[05-Feb-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
what did I just came back to


[05-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, it's hilarious because it's serious.


[05-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be less funny if she regretted it.


[05-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lily was the kid who not only ate the marshmallow the second they got it but threatened violence until they got their second marshmallow despite that not being how it works


[05-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a sign of low intelligence btw.


[05-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[05-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just paired it with socio/psychopathy.


[05-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sociopathy is essentially just a failure to learn moral reasoning and proper theory of mind.


[05-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone starts that way, but most don't stay there in childhood.


[05-Feb-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/481388-doj-tells-supreme-court-that-subpoenas-for-trumps-finances-are

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DOJ tells Supreme Court that subpoenas for Trump's finances are un...
The Department of Justice is arguing in filings to the Supreme Court that the multiple subpoenas for President Trump's financial records are unconstitutional.
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[05-Feb-20 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1224860856024018945?s=21

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[05-Feb-20 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
God why


[05-Feb-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow these people sound extremely phoned in


[05-Feb-20 02:26 AM] illumnious#7938
Look at this https://twitter.com/deepstateexpose/status/1224862712515170304?s=21

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[05-Feb-20 02:27 AM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck is this shit


[05-Feb-20 02:27 AM] illumnious#7938
Make America great forever??????


[05-Feb-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>not just abolishing term limits


[05-Feb-20 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last thing we need america to become is a knock off north korea


[05-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People in the US dislike dynasties


[05-Feb-20 02:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/YesCymru/status/1224784218443612165?s=19

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YouGov / ITV Wales Poll.

*Should Wales be an independent country?*

YES - 27% 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Fieldwork Dates: 20th - 23rd January 2020. 
Discounting Would not vote / Don't know / Refused.

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[05-Feb-20 02:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWizDna1XO4

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wakmena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWizDna1XO4
Mr. Bison: YES!!! HD
Mr. Bison's Epic YES¡
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[05-Feb-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Discounting the majority of people"


[05-Feb-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
iirc Scotland had 32% support for independence in 2012


[05-Feb-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
so it's growing


[05-Feb-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially after brexit and the tories


[05-Feb-20 02:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The actual vote last time had 44.7% of the vote for independence for Scotland. it was pretty close I would say.


[05-Feb-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ireland as well


[05-Feb-20 02:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sentoomey/status/1224776771972759552?s=21

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Senator Pat Toomey (@SenToomey)
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Janiyah Davis is a 4th grader from Philly who is one of 50K students on the PA School Choice Scholarship waitlist. It's great that Janiyah & her mother will be on hand for the #SOTU tonight as President @realDonaldTrump pushes to expand #SchoolChoice. https://t.co/sgRrPmjI...
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[05-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
We still don't hav more than 62% on the Iowa caucuses


[05-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is serious shit.


[05-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a 24 hour delay.


[05-Feb-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Fuck you pat toomey


[05-Feb-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1224839510548152320?s=21

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James Carville sounds the alarm about Democrats' 2020 field:

"This party needs to wake up and make sure that we talk about things are relevant to people. ... We don’t need to become the British Labor Party. That’s a bad thing. It’s not going well over there." https:...
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[05-Feb-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Holy


[05-Feb-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[05-Feb-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[05-Feb-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Bitch


[05-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
funny he mentioned that.


[05-Feb-20 02:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Northern Ireland has not had an actual vote on joining the republic since since the 70s and only one side showed up for that one for fear of being targeted and a vote boycott resulting in 1% of the vote for joining. 
Actual polls have been bouncing around 42-48% for years.


[05-Feb-20 03:01 AM] illumnious#7938
Guys trump talking some shit on live television 

WATCH LIVE: President Trump delivers State of the Union Address 
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/04/on-eve-of-impeachment-verdict-trump-tees-up-state-of-union/

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WATCH LIVE: President Trump delivers State of the Union Address
Stepping to the dais in extraordinary times, President Donald Trump on Tuesday will deliver his State of the Union address on the eve of his likely  impeachment  acquittal and in the aftermath of the chaotic first votes of the race to replace him.
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[05-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has he gone off script yet?


[05-Feb-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably the minute it began klnowing him


[05-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
who's all watching the state of the union address?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zepiHyho0WM

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Watch Live: Trump delivers his State of the Union
President Trump delivers his 2020 State of the Union address. #FoxBusiness

FOX Business Network (FBN) is a financial news channel delivering real-time information across all platforms that impact both Main Street and Wall Street. Headquartered in New York — the business ca...
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[05-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Christ, he just says a phrase and half the chamber spends 5 seconds clapping and cheering


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm trying to but my internet is being a little bitch right now


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That is a lot of pollical chambers that are full of one party.


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's spent the last 5 minutes just saying "the unemployment for X group is at an all time low"


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
> ever watching SOTU addresses


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've never seen a good one.


[05-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's listing every possible social group in existence


[05-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
One time Obama just like, called out SCOTUS over Citizens United and Roberts was shaking his head


[05-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
another time, Obama said something obvious and some Republican Senator shouted "Liar!"


[05-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all just dumb political drama boiled down into the President trying to reassure people vaguely.


[05-Feb-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, you made it sound like the president was actually saying something interesting. turns out hes just reading his tweets live on air


[05-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just waiting for him to go off script


[05-Feb-20 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
he'll probably stay on script


[05-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But 3/4ths of the time is half the chamber clapping


[05-Feb-20 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
he was okay last year


[05-Feb-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it helps that msot of the democrats boycotted the speech


[05-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He reads a teleprompter.


[05-Feb-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i'm gonna skip out on this


[05-Feb-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he says anything interesting it will be clipped anyway


[05-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess that one wasn't actually SOTU, but something else? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/joe-wilson-you-lie-obama-town-hall.html

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Congressman Who Shouted ‘You Lie’ at Obama Hears the Same From...
Representative Joe Wilson, Republican of South Carolina, encountered some heated pushback at a town hall event on Monday.
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[05-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got reprimendade at the time, apparently.


[05-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't supposed to shout "You lie!" at the president etc.


[05-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's still in the House.


[05-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of Trump's shills.


[05-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Term limits please


[05-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One six year term for president


[05-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two six year for senators


[05-Feb-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want 6 years of trump?


[05-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Max five terms for representatives


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Done in 2022.


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits don't help.


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of the problematic Republicans, the ones currently shitting things up


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
are relatively newer


[05-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The newer, the bigger of a Trump shill in general.


[05-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
New politicians are vulnerable, they latch onto the party and its leadership.


[05-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Older ones *become* leadership.


[05-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits would just make the party rule even more powerfully over its Senators.


[05-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want politicians to be accountable, you need transparency and you need to make it harder to bribe them


[05-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly? I kind of want a parliamentary system


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you're a fool.


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the GOP saying with the impeachment "this turns the presidency into a vote of no confidence"


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it should be that


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
IT IS THAT


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep misdiagnosing the problems.


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment was *never* something that needed crimes.


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Iowa reporting still at 62%, jesus


[05-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're listed, but they aren't needed.


[05-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was specifically designed to be lower stakes to encourage its use.


[05-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
vs. UK impeachment


[05-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
A parliamentary system would just mean that Republicans force elections from the Senate until they get a better House.


[05-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what happened in the UK


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Brexit is happening.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A parliamentary system would have the GOP split into two or three parties.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives strongly benefit from parliamentary systems.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP would be one party.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats would be three.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP would coalition with Blue Dogs and win every single time.


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're telling me that Evangelicals wouldn't make a powerful party?


[05-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are thinking very wrong about how this works, Its


[05-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives BY THEIR NATURE form fewer parties.


[05-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of GOP and Democrats


[05-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be GOP, NeoNazis, Blue Dog Democrats, Liberal Democrats, Greens, and Socialists


[05-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP+Blue Dogs coalition to 52%, pass legislation that the NeoNazis cream themselves over


[05-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lib Dems get mad, Greens and Socialists are relegated to their little corner of theoretical representation.


[05-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want coalitions that work, you need a different voting method than FPTP


[05-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
it strongly favors conservatives


[05-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Types like the Greens are everyone's second choice, but almost nobody's first


[05-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
People's first choices tend to be the most conservative.


[05-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
IRV will get you the same problem btw


[05-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you're everybody's second choice, you are guaranteed to lose.


[05-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is hugely irrational.


[05-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
later-no-help/harm is a BAD CONDITION on voting systems.


[05-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you get what I'm saying here, @Itsthinking?


[05-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, I don't think Blue Dogs are really a thing anymore though.


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They absolutely are.


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who is that, Manchin?


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One senator.


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you made the US congress parliamentary


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
then some Republicans would switch to Blue Dog


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and many southern states would elect Blue Dogs


[05-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't weaken the GOP


[05-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
because Blue Dogs' strategy is to work with the GOP and not piss it off.


[05-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, @Itsthinking, if you want to hold politicians accountable, people need ACTUAL CHOICES paried with monitoring


[05-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get everyone using a voting system whereby everyone's second choice beats out the Nazi's first choice that everyone else hates.


[05-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
MOST VOTING SYSTEMS ARE NOT THAT.


[05-Feb-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/481537-omar-trump-address-reads-as-if-a-coequal-branch-of-government-doesnt-exist

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Omar: Trump address reads 'as if a coequal branch of government do...
Reps.
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[05-Feb-20 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
is it just me, or has there been a rash of pro-trump comments with high scores on the hill recently


[05-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Common.


[05-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives comment more.


[05-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's part of why they take over YT.


[05-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
the hill used to be moderate right, then it seemed to shift the past couple years


[05-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
but the past week or two there's been a ton of pro-trump comments with high scores


[05-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
thinking there might be another russian troll campaign


[05-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
conservatives serve the prevailing ideology and get tons of corporate money, leftist youtubers get whatever their patreon gives them


[05-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
the difference being that pro-trump on the hill gets downvoted to shit normally


[05-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Honahue#0656
I remember hearing somewhere Alex Jones was getting millions from InfoWars, only Chapo Trap House is pulling in that kind of dosh


[05-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Honahue#0656
As of 2014, "operations were bringing in more than $20 million a year in revenue ... according to testimony Mr. Jones gave in a court case". Most of his revenue in 2014 "came from the sale of products like supplements", according to records "viewed by The New York Times" including Super Male Vitality and Brain Force Plus, which supposedly increase testosterone and mental agility respectively. here's from Wikipedia


[05-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Honahue#0656
heck even Chapo doesn't make that much


[05-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
$1,896,240 as of current Chapo annual income


[05-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
you really gotta appreciate the kind of cuck that would buy 'Super Male Vitality' endorsed by Alex Jones


[05-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
evidently, however, there's enough of them to make a good living off.


[05-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill had John Solomon until recently, who was directly involved in Trump shit


[05-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The conservative shills they have now only get posts where the comments are closed.


[05-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill TV is trash.


[05-Feb-20 05:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent I get spam mails about those pills, and I'm genuinely curious too who are the demographic who buy them (both the vitality pills and the "brain force plus" crap)


[05-Feb-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who beleive in snake oil


[05-Feb-20 05:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also people who blindly beleive everything a conservative yelling at them says


[05-Feb-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He's yelling it at me so it must be true!"


[05-Feb-20 05:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dumbest thing is that it;s generic vitamins, you can buy over the counter at a pharmacy for way cheaper


[05-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
you pay for the brand, nothing new there.


[05-Feb-20 05:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[05-Feb-20 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's usual conservative marketing. Find something cheap and generic, slap a cool label on it with your logo, sell it for way mroe than it;s actually worth


[05-Feb-20 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually protein shake mix or health vitamins


[05-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Opponent#3498
hmm.


[05-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Opponent#3498
seems like a conservative ideal.


[05-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Opponent#3498
a subject healthy enough to work or fight, and dim enough to do so loyally and without doubt or questions.


[05-Feb-20 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jason_donner/status/1224901568425857024?s=19

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi on why she ripped up President Trump’s speech:  “Because it was the courteous thing to do considering the alternatives.” https://t.co/nYTjAZAwGo
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[05-Feb-20 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neck snapping range


[05-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
with her frail looking hands? not likely


[05-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1CkKDWUeI

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Iowa caucus-goer tries to change vote after learning Pete Buttigie...
An Iowa caucus-goer was caught on camera asking if she could change her vote after learning that Mayor Pete Buttigieg is gay. One of the precinct captains is now being praised for keeping her cool while talking with the woman about her views.

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[05-Feb-20 06:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair, trump has a very frail neck, so it wouldnt be too hard


[05-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHMmtY-GPA

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Trump's Amazing 2020 State of the Union Speech
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[05-Feb-20 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's 71% reporting now in iowa


[05-Feb-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow, at this rate, we'll hav the results of Monday's caucus by mid-day Wednesday!


[05-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
> Message to all voters regardless of affiliation:  If you do not even know the most basic and well published facts of the people you are voting on, you should not be voting.


[05-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
from that video I linked of the homophobe wanting to change her vote because she found out cheat was gay after the fact


[05-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/03/us/elections/results-iowa-caucus-live-forecast.html

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Election Needle: Iowa Caucus Forecast
The Times plans to make estimates around 9 p.m. Eastern.
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[05-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
so it's saying that bernie will likely win the vote majority, but pete will likely win the majority of the delegates


[05-Feb-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
which is pointing towards bernie getting fucked by the democratic establishment again


[05-Feb-20 09:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remind me who's up next?


[05-Feb-20 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
new hampshire


[05-Feb-20 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
bernie is predicted to steamroll it because he got a large majority in the 2016 primary


[05-Feb-20 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
but anyway, this iowa caucus has shown that caucuses aren't actually democratic and seem easily manipulated


[05-Feb-20 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's pretty much how they were designed, yeah


[05-Feb-20 10:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are basically just a large scale filtering stage to hopefully wash out the unwanteds who the party doesn't want nominated


[05-Feb-20 10:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s part of why the democrats attached super delegates into themix


[05-Feb-20 10:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

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Superdelegate
In American politics, a superdelegate is an unpledged delegate to the Democratic National Convention who is seated automatically and chooses for themselves for whom they vote. These Democratic Party superdelegates (who make up slightly under 15% of all convention delegates) i...


[05-Feb-20 10:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because if that filter doesn't go their way, they can use the super delegates to finish the job


[05-Feb-20 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/25/641725402/dnc-set-to-reduce-role-of-superdelegates-in-presidential-nominating-process However because the democratic party was sued by sanders because the filtering use for super delegates was obvious as fuck, their roles have been lessened to a deadlock break

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Party leaders who have voted on the nominations of Democrats' presidential candidates for three decades, unbound by primaries and caucuses, will now only weigh in if a convention is deadlocked.
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[05-Feb-20 12:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/us/politics/what-happened-iowa-caucuses.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/us/politics/what-happened-iowa-caucuses.html
‘A Systemwide Disaster’: How the Iowa Caucuses Melted Down
Unexplained “inconsistencies” in results, heated conference calls and firm denials of hacking left the contest in a strange state of almost suspended animation.
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[05-Feb-20 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/brandon_seekins/status/1224793398772740096

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Brandon Seekins (@brandon_seekins)
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@JoiedeBeavre @ShadowIncHQ There is no code, they made it in Quick Base because they have no idea how to write code. Trying to decide if they're corrupt or incompetent is pointless, because they're both.
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[05-Feb-20 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
what's "quick base"?


[05-Feb-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.quickbase.com/resources/articles/programming-basics-for-students

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Programming Basics for Students | QuickBase
Unleash the creativity of your teams to quickly improve any process. See why thousands of the world’s best businesses build what matters on Quick Base. Try it free!
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[05-Feb-20 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickBase,_Inc.

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QuickBase, Inc.
QuickBase, Inc., provides a low-code application development platform called Quick Base. Headquartered in Cambridge, Massachusetts, the company was divested from Intuit in March 2016. In Jan 2019, Private-Equity firm Vista Equity Partners announced buying a majority stake in ...
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[05-Feb-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Quick Base is a low-code platform[6] that allows non-technical developers to build, customize and connect scalable, secure cloud applications mapped to unique business challenges without compromising IT governance and control. The platform addresses a broad set of business use cases through its customizable application platform that includes workflow and process automation, forms, and personalized charts and reports driven by customizable business logic.


[05-Feb-20 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21122737/iowa-democractic-caucus-voting-app-android-testfairy-screenshots-app-store

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The app that broke the Iowa Caucuses was sent out through beta tes...
Motherboard obtained screenshots of the app that caused yesterday’s mess.
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[05-Feb-20 01:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51381015

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Trump's State of the Union speech fact-checked
The US President made a series of claims about his record in office including on the economy, healthcare and immigration.
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[05-Feb-20 03:03 PM] Opponent#3498
he's getting boring predictable.


[05-Feb-20 03:03 PM] Opponent#3498
claims? Half bullshit, half senility. It's not even funny anymore :(


[05-Feb-20 03:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1225056753030778882?s=21

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Well @realDonaldTrump will have the last laugh when he gets to shred nasty Nancy’s bullshit articles of impeachment later today. https://t.co/mL7lFsbPJr
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[05-Feb-20 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know it's funny how US liberals and Hillary stans and all say they're not persuaded by conspiracy theories yet will believe in Russian bot farms destroying American democracy from the outside, which in itself is close to a conspiracy theory


[05-Feb-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sandrabernhard/status/1225065707869700103?s=21

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thank you to @SpeakerPelosi for calling it like it is, lying horse shit, at this point what's left to say? we must forge ahead, stay focused & rally behind the candidate the people choose. #NancyPelosiROCKS
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[05-Feb-20 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Man these Bernie Bros sure like to make deaths of loved ones political https://i.redd.it/uwk73ijl14f41.png

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[05-Feb-20 04:39 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/erinmperrine/status/1225074153281204226?s=21

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#PelosiTantrum
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[05-Feb-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
"tantrum"


[05-Feb-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
NYP is a total rag


[05-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-sanders-threatens-the-establishment-by-inspiring-popular-movements/

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Noam Chomsky: Sanders Threatens the Establishment by Inspiring Pop...
While the establishment views Sanders as dangerous, Trump is waging war against life on Earth.
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[05-Feb-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
that 'political death' thing, It's not just people being oblivious or stupid.


[05-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
they're used to have simple binary 'conclusions' (as opposed to facts from which they could draw them) screamed at them, probably from both Dem and Rep side.


[05-Feb-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/02/ukraine-impeachment-trump-journalism-yanukovych/

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Mark Schapiro
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The story of the Ukraine scandal begins with documents dumped in a...
How a bunch of gutsy Ukrainian journalists helped light the fuse that led to Trump's impeachment.
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[05-Feb-20 05:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not that they can't think. It's just that the idea to try doing so is entirely alien to them.


[05-Feb-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```Yanukovych has the dubious distinction of being one of the few world leaders ousted from office twice by popular revolt—the first time in 2004 during the Orange Revolution.```


[05-Feb-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
you mean US-funded campaign that forced a 'third election turn', which broke pretty much all laws concerning elections at the time, and produced a president so shitty he was out like a light in one term regardless of the support (instead of Yanukovich, who won original popular vote, although he too was pretty shitty)


[05-Feb-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yyeah.


[05-Feb-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
investigative journalism, everyone.


[05-Feb-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
...and then another _likely_ US-funded campaign aimed to break Russia's influence took advantage of the scattered student protests in Kiev which were going on for years before with no consequence, and molded that into 'Revolution of Dignity'.


[05-Feb-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
...and then Russia invaded, pushing us firmly into the inviting arms of NATO, which up until that point was highly unpopular.


[05-Feb-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
all according to plan :/


[05-Feb-20 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
``` Nevertheless, the Ukrainians do not look kindly upon the younger Biden.```
he and everyone else, 'the Ukraininans' likely didn't know the guy's name before Trump platformed him.


[05-Feb-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.informant.news/p/threat-against-adam-schiff

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Threat against Adam Schiff
An Arizona man is accused of leaving a voicemail threatening to kill the lead prosecutor in President Trump's impeachment trial.
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[05-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-collins-will-vote-to-acquit-trump-saying-hes-learned-from-impeachment/

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Susan Collins will vote to acquit Trump, saying he's "learned" fro...
The Maine Republican told the "CBS Evening News" that she believes impeachment is a "pretty big lesson."
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[05-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He sure did learn his lesson. *pockets check* If he pays me he can do whatever he wants!"


[05-Feb-20 06:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/puurok/status/1224752252180627457?s=21

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I can't stop thinking about this intro from a 90's Finnish TV show about politics https://t.co/pMQtNwE7IA
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[05-Feb-20 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.dw.com/en/far-right-afd-kingmakers-in-german-state-election/a-52268385

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Far-right AfD kingmakers in German state election | DW | 05.02.2020
There were protests in Germany after a conservative state premier was elected with help from the far-right Alternative for Germany. However, the newly-elected leader dismissed the idea of a coalition with the party.
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[05-Feb-20 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh god


[05-Feb-20 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So


[05-Feb-20 07:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Die Linke party in Germany tried to make ammends with Social Democrats for a coalition in an election for the state of Thuringia recently


[05-Feb-20 07:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The socdems refused, forcing the Linke to go at it alone


[05-Feb-20 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But they were not able to beat a right-wing alliance of neoliberals and, you guessed it right, the fascists from AfD


[05-Feb-20 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's been some protests against the new state premier


[05-Feb-20 07:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But this is overall pretty bad news, as it might signal the beginning of the end for Germany's stable, centrist, anti-nazi system


[05-Feb-20 07:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  how do I get hired at a company that uses quick base


[05-Feb-20 07:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790881165042417720/20E48CAEE48C00D54606216855F40D7AFB6C8EEB/

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[05-Feb-20 07:41 PM] ononim#8141
FDP won


[05-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
23,4, christ


[05-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219985839751561226/674570940415344656/d61aaf35732fb0d4dd6eafffd1e40d98607c825d.png

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[05-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
what does it even matter? you can just refuse, right?


[05-Feb-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie Am I supposed to interpret that as "pro-lifer doesn't realize babies are financial black holes until one is tossed at them"?


[05-Feb-20 08:07 PM] soundtea#9032
More like willing to damn someone else to raising a kid and said financial burdens yet is fully aware it would break her own life too


[05-Feb-20 08:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1225133509506936832?s=21

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[05-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 it's a pro-lifer seeing that a baby would then be saddled on them and actively refusing out of selfishness.


[05-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, they're fine when the baby is saddled on someone else.


[05-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
But not them.


[05-Feb-20 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423258168060018699/674632645300322314/EP8i9oPUwAE0dPB.png

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[05-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481672-romney-breaks-ranks-with-gop-will-vote-to-convict-trump

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481672-romney-breaks-ranks-with-gop-will-vote-to-convict-trump
Romney breaks ranks with GOP, will vote to convict Trump
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) became the first Republican to break rank and announce he would vote to convict President Trump on a charge of abuse of power.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20203001_romneymitt_gettyimages.jpg


[05-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Officially a bipartisan conviction effort.


[05-Feb-20 08:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Iowa DNC caucus tally still at 71%


[05-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rick Santorum didn't know he won Iowa in 2012 for two weeks


[05-Feb-20 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A crippled slug would be faster than this


[05-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, in 2018 the DNC said Caucuses should die.


[05-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems Iowa is pouring the gasoline out.


[05-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also killed superdelegates


[05-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Essentially


[05-Feb-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Dems would need 3 people to cross over to trigger removal right


[05-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
4


[05-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait no


[05-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
4 people for secret ballot


[05-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
19 for removal.


[05-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removal is only possible with secret ballot.


[05-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, you'd also need witnesses, I think.


[05-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So even secret ballot may just lead to 55-45


[05-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removal is pretty much impossible at this stage.


[05-Feb-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
ah I forgot it's 2/3


[05-Feb-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
whoops


[05-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way removal happens now is if Republicans literally don't show up.


[05-Feb-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a move they could make, but I don't see them making it.


[05-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
75% fucking reporting still


[05-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[05-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's 11/11 buttigieg/bernie now


[05-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
then 5 warren and 0 biden


[05-Feb-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
most of the pro-bernie places STILL AREN'T FINISHED REPORTING


[05-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
```23,4, christ```


[05-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
muslim refugees can do that to you.


[05-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
US is big, you people don't feel it


[05-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
Europe does.


[05-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe has twice the people of the US


[05-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also has much better social safety nets in general


[05-Feb-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Germany's economy is booming because the muslim refugees it absorbed are making up for a lakk of young people to work.


[05-Feb-20 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Muslim refugees can do that to you"


[05-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Germany isn't voting AfD because of problems, but because of fear.


[05-Feb-20 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or so the nazis want you to believe


[05-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Irrational fear.


[05-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
unfounded fears, shared by 23.4% of the most anti-nazi nation of the world


[05-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I suppose.


[05-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
```Europe has twice the people of the US```


[05-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
that's the thing. More people know how is it to actually live next to them.


[05-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
not hear about it from the other side of the continent


[05-Feb-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far most Muslim refugees i've seen are actually pretty good people at heart


[05-Feb-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can there be some extremists? Sure, a good number of Turks in Europe still hold Erdogan to be a decent figure, which he is not


[05-Feb-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that does not preclude wanting to expel them


[05-Feb-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's, as always, fool's socialism


[05-Feb-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Blame the immigrants rather than the corrupt neoliberal establishment


[05-Feb-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it may not even be fool's "socialism" by this point considering how they just allied with said neoliberals


[05-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481574-former-simpsons-writer-slams-pompeo-tweet-please-do-not-ever-ever

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Former 'Simpsons' writer slams Pompeo tweet: 'Please do not ever e...
A former writer for “The Simpsons” on Wednesday ripped Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for using a snapshot from the show to knock Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), saying “please do not ever ever ever use Simpsons material in your twitte
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/thesimpsons_02052020.jpg


[05-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Using Lisa as a way to criticize a politician is dumb.


[05-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do they forget that Lisa becomes president?


[05-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or is that just one of the many non canon futures


[05-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

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Tencent may have accidentally leaked real dat... | Taiwan News
Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus
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[05-Feb-20 10:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/hamillhimself/status/1225157060838313984?s=21

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Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself)
https://twitter.com/hamillhimself/status/1225157060838313984?s=21
History is watching...
#ImpeachmentDay 
#AmericansFindTrumpGuilty https://t.co/E65QIJa8nC
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[05-Feb-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it's probably more that pompeo is an asshat and they dont want that association


[05-Feb-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially after his fuckwit attempt to destroy a press career for asking him a question


[05-Feb-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also considering that is an old episode of the series, it probably has signifigant context they;d rather not see it used liek this


[05-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not guilty first article


[05-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Mani#1404
Really.


[05-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Mani#1404
REALLY?


[05-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Mani#1404
This issss...bullshit.


[05-Feb-20 10:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump acquittal on track, though Romney to vote to convict
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/05/trump-impeachment-acquittal-on-track-ahead-of-senate-vote/

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https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/05/trump-impeachment-acquittal-on-track-ahead-of-senate-vote/
Trump cleared of abuse, impeachment acquittal on track
President Donald Trump is on the verge of acquittal by the Senate, bringing an end to only the third presidential  impeachment trial  in American history in a vote at the start of the tumultuous campaign for the White House.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/37-uMuqDKBe7ZRtgVYjDn-luQ8Q=/1600x1066/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-gmg.s3.amazonaws.com/public/432VFZXQU5FI7C4SYD2IMJFHJY.jpg


[05-Feb-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:caddy:


[05-Feb-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s totally not like they announced their plan to do this at the start of the trial or anything


[05-Feb-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6gjds2CSM

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Brian Tyler Cohen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6gjds2CSM
Lindsey Graham brags he won’t be a fair juror in Trump’s impea...
BREAKING: Lindsey Graham just bragged that he won’t be a fair juror in Trump’s impeachment trial.

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[05-Feb-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfvle0OdlgM

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NBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfvle0OdlgM
Mitch McConnell: 'I'm Not An Impartial Juror' In A Senate Impeachm...
Sen. Mitch McConnell told reporters he would not be an "impartial juror" if an impeachment trial is held in the Senate. "I think we're going to get an almost entirely partisan impeachment," he added.
» Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
» Watch more NBC...
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[05-Feb-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, totally


[05-Feb-20 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-trial-senate-vote-verdict-acquittal-today-2020-02-05/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-impeachment-trial-senate-vote-verdict-acquittal-today-2020-02-05/
Impeachment trial: Senate votes on final verdicts in Trump trial
The Senate will soon issue verdicts in President Trump's impeachment trial with votes that are all but certain to end in his acquittal.
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2020/01/31/6d56a037-152e-4f2f-917a-33f89817e822/thumbnail/1200x630/0945111e359151fd288f7451051ac26b/senate-friday.png


[05-Feb-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-acquitted-senate-impeachment-trial-ukraine-2020-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-acquitted-senate-impeachment-trial-ukraine-2020-2
TRUMP ACQUITTED: Republican-controlled Senate clears Trump of 2 im...
The Senate voted to acquit President Trump of two charges following an impeachment trial that featured no witness testimony or new documents.
https://i.insider.com/5e3ae6545bc79c3e195dfcc8?width=1200&format=jpeg


[05-Feb-20 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck


[05-Feb-20 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump cleared of abuse, impeachment acquittal on track  
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/05/trump-impeachment-acquittal-on-track-ahead-of-senate-vote/

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https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/05/trump-impeachment-acquittal-on-track-ahead-of-senate-vote/
Trump cleared of abuse, impeachment acquittal on track
President Donald Trump is on the verge of acquittal by the Senate, bringing an end to only the third presidential  impeachment trial  in American history in a vote at the start of the tumultuous campaign for the White House.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/37-uMuqDKBe7ZRtgVYjDn-luQ8Q=/1600x1066/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-gmg.s3.amazonaws.com/public/432VFZXQU5FI7C4SYD2IMJFHJY.jpg


[05-Feb-20 10:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucc


[05-Feb-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they did exactly what they said they'd do


[05-Feb-20 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1225167351617712128

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Pete Guaido (@lib_crusher)
https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1225167351617712128
Uhhhhhhhh the IDP is now reporting vote totals from Black Hawk County that are at odds with what Black Hawk County themselves have reported
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[05-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So weird


[05-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder if we'll get results before NH


[05-Feb-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be a slow ass trickle


[05-Feb-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/iowademocrats/status/1225170253778444291

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Iowa Democrats (@iowademocrats)
https://twitter.com/iowademocrats/status/1225170253778444291
There will be a minor correction to the last batch of results and we will be pushing an update momentarily.
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[05-Feb-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
they should just straight up say "its rigged lol"


[05-Feb-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
would save us the trouble


[05-Feb-20 10:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/gopleader/status/1225170697103847424?s=21

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Kevin McCarthy (@GOPLeader)
https://twitter.com/gopleader/status/1225170697103847424?s=21
Acquitted for life. https://t.co/HgqBXwpoWK
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[05-Feb-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after that video he went to have a giant lemon party with the rest of the senate GOP


[05-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only places with votes left were all heavy Sanders


[05-Feb-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those will coem out at a slow, spiteful trickle because the DNC doesnt want that being seen


[05-Feb-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably with a lot of the votes shifted towards buttman


[05-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to release the best possible trikkle for Buttigieg while also seeing what votes they can get away with changing...


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their biden plan failed hard, they've gone into defcon buttigieg


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they're probably figuring out right now how to put Bernie's votes last.


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think Pete could beat Trump


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really couldnt


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think maybe Bloomberg could


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the only moderate I could see


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
everything about this screams malicious incompetence


[05-Feb-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt about winning, it;s about making investors happy


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
they wanted to rig it, but they weren't smart enough to rig it in a way that seemed plausible


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg basically invented modern stock trading


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They've fucked up, and people know


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They'll sacrifice the party to trump to keep their bottom line if thye have to


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now if they pick any neoliberal, they'll come crashing down hard


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
like, how hard is it to design a fucking mobile app that tallies results accurately


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a fucking _distributed counting problem_


[05-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the optics of this will giv Bernie's New Hampshire win a lot more votes.


[05-Feb-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
theuy released the app in beta test mode


[05-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[05-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
they released the app via a beta testing service


[05-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
With a convoluted process to obtain it


[05-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
with a user limit of 200


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
at the last minute.


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I could probably design a half-assed app and associated web service that actually does the job in the span of a few weeks, _on my own_


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
and they can't do it with $100000?


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
the incompetency is staggering


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's team had their own app


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but yours would work correctly and wouldnt allow for the nile to be your margin of error


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Along with people writing shit down


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why they were caught


[05-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Honahue#0656
even better was that they were all highly qualified people that made the app


[05-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every other candidate had their own people watching and raising issue if any votes got changed by the party


[05-Feb-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I would be careful to point out brooks's law


[05-Feb-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
adding more developers to software makes it worse beyond a point


[05-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they didnt even test the app before releasing it


[05-Feb-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after 2016 every candidate is also wary of the DNC bullshit


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
even if you paid me $100000 to make a tallying app that was designed to rig the results


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
bet you I wouldn't fuck it up this hard


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
malicious incompetence


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is what happens when you dont test shit...


[05-Feb-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
(I don't test things)


[05-Feb-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the precincts are also now reporting their actual results via twitter


[05-Feb-20 11:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] try making a competing company against shadow


[05-Feb-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet the iowa democrats are not happy about that


[05-Feb-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
"Penumbra Voting Solutions LLC"


[05-Feb-20 11:14 PM] jlun2#8758
and a happy clearly not MLP bat pony as a logo


[05-Feb-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Rigged LLC"


[05-Feb-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean if you want to be that clear about it


[05-Feb-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's an ironic name, don't question it"


[05-Feb-20 11:15 PM] jlun2#8758
>>1739542
De-mlp it to prevent copyright


[05-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[05-Feb-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
well, trademark


[05-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Midknight#9798
you can't trademark a style


[05-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Midknight#9798
specific characters, yes. style, no


[05-Feb-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
though neither of those things stopped Melania from plagiarizing a speech from My Little Pony


[05-Feb-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait, did she really?


[05-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Midknight#9798
She did? At least she has better taste than Herman Caine


[05-Feb-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
wait, who was it


[05-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Midknight#9798
Pokemon as a source of deep wisdom, pssh!


[05-Feb-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I know there was some pony shit in the 2016 election


[05-Feb-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/sean-spicer-melania-trump-my-little-pony/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/sean-spicer-melania-trump-my-little-pony/index.html
RNC official cites 'My Little Pony' to defend Melania Trump
Who said it: Melania Trump or Twilight Sparkle from "My Little Pony"?
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160719120021-melania-trump-0718-super-tease.jpg


[05-Feb-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
I remembered it all wrong


[05-Feb-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
she plagiarized it from Michelle Obama


[05-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ted Cruz's favorite pony is Applejack


[05-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bill Clinton's is Pinkie Pie


[05-Feb-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
then Spicer defended it by saying that Twi said the same thing


[05-Feb-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society


[05-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Midknight#9798
except twi didn't say the same thing


[05-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Midknight#9798
so it's more GOP gaslighting


[05-Feb-20 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610

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[05-Feb-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweets-video-showing-him-president-forever-after-acquittal-2020-2

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Trump tweets a video implying he'll be president '4eva' as his fir...
The video, which Trump has tweeted before, is a video montage showing him as president for the next several centuries.
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[05-Feb-20 11:24 PM] jlun2#8758
The Dancing politician circa 2019


[05-Feb-20 11:24 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) if it's any comfort, time magnifies differences, so chances are Trump jr the 14th would be quite a different leader than Trump


[05-Feb-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably more insane


[05-Feb-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the kims are anything to go by


[05-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Mani#1404
Trump will drop dead before the decade is over *crosses fingers*


[05-Feb-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but we still get to deal with his children


[05-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1225181648964280320

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Pete Buttigieg is on track to win the Iowa caucus, according to our estimates  
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[05-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Midknight#9798
I'm frankly surprised he hasn't dropped dead of cheeseburger-arteries yet


[05-Feb-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who should all be in prison for fraud, charity fraud, and many cases of tax evasion


[05-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every president who has been impeached thusfar should have been removed from office.


[05-Feb-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree, and yet


[05-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really only ever going to be used for judges from now on


[05-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Midknight#9798
I'd rather see more presidents removed than less


[05-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Midknight#9798
Better that it's easy to remove a corrupt president than hard to remove an uncorrupt one "becuz party"


[05-Feb-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But there's going to be a point in the future where there's an attempt to impeach a SCOTUS justice


[05-Feb-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and it fails, so that will be off the table


[05-Feb-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing is truly off the table,but it would take decades for another chance to arise


[05-Feb-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats could re-open a new case for impeachment tomorrow if they wanted to, and keep doing so till election day


[05-Feb-20 11:32 PM] Midknight#9798
honestly, if it gets too bad, and nobody can impeach, we'll face a new *revolution*, not just a civil war


[05-Feb-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s racked up enough bullshit that articles can fly out of the house liek flies


[05-Feb-20 11:32 PM] Midknight#9798
tear it all down and start over. the problem is that kinda chaos leads to very indeterminate futures


[05-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just wont be removed over it because the senate has turned this into a loyalty test


[05-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what we need right now is a wrecking ball


[05-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Midknight#9798
but... if the alternative is a definite dystopian/totalitarian future, well... that's why we retained the 2nd amendment to begin with


[05-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-trump-impeachment-trial-sham-they-made-it-that-way-2020-2

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Republicans called Trump's impeachment trial is a 'sham.' And they...
Trump's impeachment trial was more a loyalty test for Senate Republicans than a thoughtful examination of the allegations against him.
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[05-Feb-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff, if it comes to totalitarianism, they'll revoke the 2nd ammendment because that implies thye control everything


[05-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Honahue#0656
wow he was aquitted in a desicion what surprised absolutely no one


[05-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Midknight#9798
ahh, but revoking the 2nd amendment won't magically disarm everyone


[05-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Midknight#9798
right wingers themselves are very quick to point that out. "Ah lost mah guns in a tragic boating accident last year, offisah!"


[05-Feb-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these are republicans.. they'll send in swat teams


[05-Feb-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the county sheriff wont be an issue because the swat teams will take over the department for them


[05-Feb-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guns will be confiscated by force


[05-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who was that minor candidate that said revolt against the government was dumb because the government has nukes


[05-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And got criticized despite being right


[05-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Swalwell I think


[05-Feb-20 11:39 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and now america is gonna die


[05-Feb-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they wont need voter support either, as they'll have set themselves up as adictatorship


[05-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Midknight#9798
if you have to nuke your own country to stay in power, you're done ^_^


[05-Feb-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depends on nnovember and the DNC getting over their own swiss bank accounts


[05-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just turn off GPS/Internet etc


[05-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People will stop revolt when they are starving/dying of disease


[05-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Midknight#9798
some will. others would fight harder, because it would just confirm what they were fighting against in the first place


[05-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
@Midknight US has the same advantage USSR did way back when. It's big.


[05-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and most of it is expendable


[05-Feb-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the nukes would wipe them out while the gop builds a lead fortress to protect themselves


[05-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
fully half the population or more are dirty commies or something, it's not a loss if you have someone more charismatic at the head and not the current moron-in-charge


[05-Feb-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election/biden-says-hes-not-going-anywhere-after-poor-iowa-showing-idUSKBN1ZZ2NJ

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Biden says he's 'not going anywhere' after poor Iowa showing
Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden vowed on Wednesday to go on fighting for th...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200205&t=2&i=1486288720&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG141UD


[05-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
could you just cease to commit alive or something


[05-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
thanks


[05-Feb-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but if he does that, then he forfeits the element of surprise as he attempts to wield the uncontrollable power of JEB


[06-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is now the tefflondon.


[06-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/5/1916916/-The-Iowa-Democratic-Party-Has-the-Results-Release-them-NOW

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The Iowa Democratic Party Has the Results.  Release them NOW!
There’s something rotten in the state of Iowa. We may all wish to believe that some sort of technical glitch created our current situation, but I believe the reality is that certain members of the Iowa Democratic Party are engaging in a concerted...
https://assets.dailykos.com/assets/fb_default-5621cb24390e49445744c08e1c8fa710.png


[06-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
the iowa democratic party has the results


[06-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
every individual county that's been contacted has said they confirmed the results they collected have been received


[06-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
the numbers being released by the iowa democratic party aren't matching the numbers the counties say they sent


[06-Feb-20 12:55 AM] ononim#8141
https://i.redd.it/byy2vq8484f41.png

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[06-Feb-20 12:55 AM] ononim#8141

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[06-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
some people crunching the numbers have determined that it seems that votes are being siphoned from bernie to other, less popular candidates


[06-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, who dis?


[06-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
All I heard was I'm a xenophobic prick bite me from that wordy post


[06-Feb-20 12:59 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow hungarian president


[06-Feb-20 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
Prime Minister*


[06-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
he seems like a fascist


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
all of this applies to corporations tho xD


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
He did apologetics for Nazi collabrator Horthy


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
and you kow what


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it's ironic  how the original nazi rhethoric can be applied now to neolibs


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
Hungary STARTED the war as Axis power


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
they weren't invided


[06-Feb-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
and Hungarians state happily shipped its jews and roma to Auschwitz under him


[06-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
the difference is that people going after corporations outright state "we don't like corporations, they shit everything up"


[06-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
instead of aroundabout "hidden enemies" bullshit that fascists use to refer to their undesirable group


[06-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
well this isn't roundabout. This is straight-up antisemite, esp if this is a quote from way back


[06-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If the enemies are hidden how do you know they are among us? :dashlaugh:


[06-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
they're not hidden well enough!


[06-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
:no_u:


[06-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah I'd rather they be up front about their fascist tendencies instead of pussyfooting around


[06-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, if they were up front they'd be laughed out of politics


[06-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
they need to secure political power before they can go out in the open so they have the legitimacy to go door-to-door and shoot or imprison dissidents/undesireables/etc


[06-Feb-20 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/G77GkxZrxIs

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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 15: The Advanced Passenger Train
In this video, @aliceavizandum, @oldmananders0n, @donoteat01 and guest @rilaah take a butcher's at the ill-fated Advanced Passenger John.
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[06-Feb-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine shutting down an entire country's railway by provoking a mass industrial action in protest over putting only one chair in the train's cabin and thus threatening the multi-man crew


[06-Feb-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And this all because you also moved said train 150 feet in the dead of night


[06-Feb-20 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And incurred costs higher than the entire operational budget for that system's life in ONE DAY


[06-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at that Biden crash

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[06-Feb-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Boom went the Biden


[06-Feb-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/EdgfwypjWww

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Boom Went the Boom
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I Will Win: Songs of the Wobblies

℗ 2006 Smithsonian Folkways Recordings / 1977 Collector Records

Released on: 1977-01-01

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[06-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
what's green and blue?


[06-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden and Sanders


[06-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
is brown warren?


[06-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[06-Feb-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow Biden really took a plunge


[06-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/romney-impeach-trump/606127/

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How Mitt Romney Decided Trump Is Guilty
Comparing the president’s behavior to that of an autocrat, the Republican senator explains to The Atlantic why he’s voting to convict him.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2020/02/romney_speaking/facebook.jpg?1580931456


[06-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mitt defecting is a big PR thing


[06-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it damages Republican unity


[06-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically this could've broken it for McConnell.


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Romney is also a former presidential nominee


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which means his message might resonate a bit


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
there's 3 republican senators who said they'd vote to convict https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-jones-says-he-will-vote-to-convict-trump-drawing-criticism-from-gop-rivals/2020/02/05/cc11916a-4833-11ea-8124-0ca81effcdfb_story.html


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
but I guess they didn't


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even though Obama defeated him


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
oh wait nvm


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
article is talking about democrats voting to acquit


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
but none of them did


[06-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
apparently republicans wanted bipartisan acquittal


[06-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
but all they got was bipartisan conviction


[06-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is also a big deal.


[06-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the only defection is from acquittal, it makes acquittal look weaker.


[06-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good chance now Dems win the Senate.


[06-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://cointelegraph.com/news/app-used-in-iowa-caucus-isnt-mobile-voting-blockchain-voting-app-says

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App Used in Iowa Caucus Isn’t Mobile Voting, Blockchain Voting A...
Major blockchain voting app Voatz says that the Shadow smartphone app used in the Iowa Democratic caucus is not mobile voting.
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[06-Feb-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
> “Blockchain in and of itself doesn't fix the issues we read about with Shadow's app, but it does provide the level of independent verifiability, audability and mathematical correctness that may have helped identify the problem in the first place and assist with verifying the results.”


[06-Feb-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people are parroting that blockchain would fix the problem


[06-Feb-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
without understanding the purpose of the app to begin with


[06-Feb-20 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Just saying blockchain to get the room clapping.


[06-Feb-20 02:27 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow at least it's not like FaceBook CEO claiming "AI WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING"


[06-Feb-20 02:27 AM] jlun2#8758
I find that even less bearable


[06-Feb-20 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/05/the-dnc-cant-steal-the-election-from-bernie-sanders-despite-the-iowa-chaos

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The DNC can't steal the election from Bernie Sanders despite the I...
Yes, the Iowa caucuses were a disaster, but Sanders supporters need to remember that if they organize and turn out to vote they can indeed win
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[06-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
everyone was so worried about the app being hacked


[06-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
that they completely disregarded the possibility that the app is a hack


[06-Feb-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the field still this open, I've added "The Democratic Presidential Candidates" to the list of large groups to name for joking about making too much food in my family.


[06-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, are we sure nobody else is considering running?


[06-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone could walk out of the ocean after 1000 years in Atlantis and announce candidacy.


[06-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQCyvLPWAAIkEHT.jpg:orig

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[06-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives love this image and present it as a good thing


[06-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/us/politics/impeachment-vote.html

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By Peter Baker
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/us/politics/impeachment-vote.html
Impeachment Trial Updates: Senate Acquits Trump, Ending Historic Trial
President Trump was cleared of both impeachment charges. Only Mitt Romney crossed party lines, the lone Republican who voted to convict and remove the president from office.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/05/us/politics/05dc-impeachbriefing-mcconnell/05dc-impeachbriefing-mcconnell-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wray-says-fbi-actions-to-obtain-carter-page-fisa-warrant-were-unacceptable-and-cannot-be-repeated

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Wray says FBI conduct surrounding Carter Page FISA warrant 'unacce...
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified Wednesday that the actions taken by the bureau to obtain a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page were “unacceptable” and “cannot be repeated.”
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2019/05/07/694940094001_6033949216001_6033949304001-vs.jpg


[06-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't be repeated until they start wiretapping Bernie, he means.


[06-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's got a blank chekk now, Republicans wouldn't vote to remove if he murdered someone on air.


[06-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Treascair#7785
hey Nebbie, it's 'check'


[06-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
> 'We can make diesel locomotives', says a man with a hammer in a shed. And they're like, 'Alright, build us 400 of them'.


[06-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
loved that :D


[06-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/04/us/michigan-state-hang-historical-black-figures-trnd/index.html

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A university gift shop hung historical black figures from tree-lik...
The trees appeared days before the start of Black History Month.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200204153947-michigan-state-historical-black-figures-tree-super-tease.jpg


[06-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://kwwl.com/2020/02/05/error-iowa-democratic-party-issues-minor-correction-possibly-to-black-hawk-county-results/

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Taylor Vessel
https://kwwl.com/2020/02/05/error-iowa-democratic-party-issues-minor-correction-possibly-to-black-hawk-county-results/
ERROR: Iowa Democratic Party issues "minor correction," possibly t...
It's possible that some results in Eastern Iowa were incorrectly reported by the state Democratic party.
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[06-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Around 4:30 p.m. Wednesday, the party sent out a tweet indicating a "minor correction was needed" but did not elaborate what exactly that error was.

At roughly the same time, Black Hawk County Supervisor Chris Schwartz said delegates for Senator Bernie Sanders were incorrectly given to Deval Patrick."


[06-Feb-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sitting here listening to the unload crew talking about how everyone who doesn't stand for Trump at the State of the Union should be fired and exiled from the country.


[06-Feb-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Long live disunity. May this house divided be burned to be built anew


[06-Feb-20 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
The disgraceful reactionaries shall be dispensed with.


[06-Feb-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481680-trump-jr-says-romney-should-be-expelled-from-the-gop

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Trump Jr. says Romney 'should be expelled' from the GOP
President Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., condemned Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpjrdonald_080119upi2_lead.jpg


[06-Feb-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Why won't you love me, daddy?"


[06-Feb-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Please love me"


[06-Feb-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/481723-trump-to-make-statement-on-impeachment-victory-on-thursday

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Trump to make statement on impeachment 'victory' on Thursday
The White House on Wednesday declared President Trump had received “full vindication and exoneration” from a “sham impeachment” after the Senate voted to acquit him on charges he abused his power and obstructed Congress.
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[06-Feb-20 05:05 AM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[06-Feb-20 05:05 AM] illumnious#7938
VICTORY?????????


[06-Feb-20 05:06 AM] illumnious#7938
My ass


[06-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
it kind of was.


[06-Feb-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a frat bro loyalty test and they did exactly as they said they would


[06-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk what is the political affiliation of the channel you linked?  Out of curiosity.


[06-Feb-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
music probably


[06-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm hearing a lot of jabs in the direction of various lefty topics, but they don't seem to be all that conservative at a glance.


[06-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
considering they also take a lot of jabs in the direction of boomers


[06-Feb-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a really really old song


[06-Feb-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back when unions were more of a thing than thye are now


[06-Feb-20 05:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent Socialist


[06-Feb-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also this ^


[06-Feb-20 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think he's talking more about the Well There's Your Problem podcast


[06-Feb-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[06-Feb-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think i missed that video


[06-Feb-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i saw was boom


[06-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah


[06-Feb-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh that video


[06-Feb-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, my bad


[06-Feb-20 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:oof:


[06-Feb-20 05:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/481598-nancy-pelosi-should-resign

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Nancy Pelosi should resign
She has demolished decades of tradition in her moment at the State of the Union.
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[06-Feb-20 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-presidential-medal-of-freedom-outrageous-quotes/

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Rush Limbaugh now has a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Here are ju...
President Trump said he gave Limbaugh the nation's highest civilian honor for "decades of tireless devotion to our country."
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[06-Feb-20 05:28 AM] illumnious#7938
burn


[06-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa results at 95%


[06-Feb-20 05:29 AM] illumnious#7938
geeee


[06-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete leads in votes (SDE), tied with Bernie for delegates.


[06-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
(11 to 11)


[06-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 delegates remain.


[06-Feb-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
looks like it;s gonna be a 13/13 tie


[06-Feb-20 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481717-the-hills-campaign-report-democrats-tout-obama-ties-as-race-shifts-to-nh

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The Hill's Campaign Report: Democrats tout Obama ties as race shif...
Welcome to The Hill's Campaign Report, your daily rundown on all the latest news in the 2020 presidential, Senate and House races. Did someone forward this to you?
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_020120gn12_lead.jpg


[06-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama will endorse Pete or Bloomberg and upset people


[06-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is done.


[06-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So bad that South Carolina might not be good for him.


[06-Feb-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

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Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?
FiveThirtyEight's polls and forecast for the 2020 Democratic presidential primary election.
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[06-Feb-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is being beaten by No One in 538's forecast lol


[06-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
.p arya stark


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[06-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hello mistagged image


[06-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Opponent#3498
I have to agree though.


[06-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Opponent#3498
his sex appeal is through the roof, especially for what is ostensibly a Pegi-13 show.


[06-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing like beetle pincer antlers to get the ladies screamin'.


[06-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No One is Not Important's politician cousin


[06-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really made his run for office difficult.


[06-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
so who gets iowa's delegates if there's a tie?


[06-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
or are they split evenly


[06-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Evenly.


[06-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think in a caucus it's winner takes all like the Electoral College


[06-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First time Iowa has tied ever


[06-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[06-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'm so used to the absolute bullshit that is the electoral college I forgot about the alternative


[06-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
actually, pete doing so well in iowa might actually overall end up being a good thing for bernie


[06-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
it shows that the moderate vote is being split


[06-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[06-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren isn't viable, neither is Biden, the moderate vote is realistically Bloomberg v Pete


[06-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Bloomberg and Pete have very little difference in policy, the term moderate doesn't mean anything other than doesn't fit into the 2 party system we've told you are your choices


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
pro gay marriage pro gun must be a moderate position


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
would there be any mathematical difference between having all electoral votes split evenly to each candidate based on the percentage of people in a state who voted for them and just having a popular vote?


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
but there isn't a moderate potion on gay marriage,


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
*position


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
the first would be simpler to adapt to with the current system


[06-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
cept maybe missionary


[06-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow it would tend to favor larger candidates


[06-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would also lead to very silly things in states with low populations


[06-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Montana's vote would be 2 Republican 1 Democrat


[06-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of 3 Republican


[06-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
there are some states that do propotional electoral college votes


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
when it's 51-49 popular split.


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
one


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure it's only one state that does that


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
is it one I thoguth there was more


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would mostly destroy Republican hegemony.


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
while keeping third parties out


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
oh, 2 actually


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
maine and nebraska


[06-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah just looked that up too


[06-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/djjudd/status/1224678362767069185

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After his coffee with Nashua Mayor Jim Donchess, I asked Pete Buttigieg if it was premature to declare a victory in Iowa last night. He declined to respond. https://t.co/QiiBilRP2C
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[06-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
is it just me


[06-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
or is this smile creepy


[06-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
there's people arguing in another server that the smile after being asked a question wasn't creepy


[06-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer smiles, Crow


[06-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're considered creepy by younger people, not older ones.


[06-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Honahue#0656
can't say, I don't like him and when you don't like someone everything they do is annoying


[06-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bakk in the day, smiling like you're about to rape someone was normal.


[06-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Nixon's body language, and Clinton's too, was fukking obvious.


[06-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
People didn't pikk up on it.


[06-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just way too much trust.


[06-Feb-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://image.prntscr.com/image/00ahvM22SFyJnvi04dnvGg.png

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[06-Feb-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
apparently 538 thinks bernie has a 40% chance of winning the primary now


[06-Feb-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
love that Biden cliff at Iowa


[06-Feb-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[06-Feb-20 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
https://tenor.com/view/life-alert-mayday-help-send-help-fall-gif-5288893

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Life Alert
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[06-Feb-20 06:42 AM] Honahue#0656
biden campaign


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
there's a dude in that other server who apparently does campaign data stuff who thinks 538 are a bunch of idiots


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of people in campaign data shit on 538


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
which makes me think he's either not very good at his job or is lying about his job description


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it beats them lol.


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Former.


[06-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 uses actual models that it feeds data into continuously


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
he used to do baseball statistics and got famous for predicting Obama's wins


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most places are reporters first, statisticians never.


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
bUt ThE mOdElS aRe MaNmAdE


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
538's models are the least manmade out there is the thing.


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Honahue#0656
but his model for 2016 was way off, though everyone's was


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most places inject shittons of bias.


[06-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 gave Trump a 30%


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
I'm shitting on those people who say global warming is fake because they use human-made models to predict future temperatures


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
When 538 givs you a 30%, that does not mean you lose


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means 70% of the time you lose.


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav actually done analysis to show this is the case.


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if you average it all together


[06-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
in races where 538 says 30%


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
apparently that dude seems to think that bloomberg has a big shot at winning the primary


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
30% of them hav the disfavored one win.


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahhah


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
>win Dem primary without Iowa


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
sure, sure


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
because of how much money he's spending on ads


[06-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'll just go take over Russia in the winter.


[06-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a decent predictor but it doesn't always work unless it's like a local election, Trump didn't spend any or hardly any money on ads he just was outragious and got millions of free ads by being the topic of conversation


[06-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty much why no one was talking about Bernie, and now they are talking about Pete


[06-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, one of the people in that server I was talking about is gay and supports trump


[06-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
he seems offended that I said a gay person had a creepy smile


[06-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
I think he called someone a homophobe a couple months ago because they said they didn't like pete


[06-Feb-20 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, pete does have kind of a creepy smile.


[06-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
(to be fair, I said he had a creepy slasher smile first, then I called it a psychopathic smile)


[06-Feb-20 07:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was going to say it gives him a rat face


[06-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
and he immediately jumped to "are you calling a gay guy a psychopath because you don't like them?"


[06-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
he's the perfect example of a bad-faith nitpicker


[06-Feb-20 07:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a long jump


[06-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
like I said, he's gay and supports trump


[06-Feb-20 07:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm surprised he cleared that gap


[06-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
someone else started shitting on him for it, but the server owner came in and said to stop shitting on him


[06-Feb-20 07:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never thought i;d see a candidate i could describe as literally rat faced, but pete pulled it off


[06-Feb-20 07:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/124e82207e5f0a43cd990e486b8e312b

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Biden reaches for 'Comeback Kid' mantle in New Hampshire
SOMERSWORTH, N.H. (AP) — Joe Biden entered the Democratic presidential race as a favorite, the candidate with the longest resume, a network of establishment donors and a pitch that he could win...
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[06-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Opponent#3498
hey, how come Warren's completely out of the picture by now?


[06-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I was under the impression she was the more palateable and accessible Bernie.


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
She kept losing support to Bernie because people realized she's just discount Bernie


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing Trump go crazy I think made people yearn for more change.


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's still everyone's second choice.


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she's almost nobody's first.


[06-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a sane voting system, she'd win.


[06-Feb-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In actual voting systems, Bernie or Biden usually win.


[06-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, another thing that conservative gay dude did was go after another dude for saying that "I always think "buttplug" when I see buttigieg's name"


[06-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
calling him a homophobe and whatnot


[06-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he didn't originally know that pete was gay when he typed that


[06-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfeMIFXRZ4I

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[06-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

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[06-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Opponent#3498
```"I always think "buttplug" when I see buttigieg's name"```


[06-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Opponent#3498
I can relate, even if I got used to seing him being mentioned a lot lately.


[06-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know the worst part?


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
buttchug


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Booty judge" is a valid pronunciation.


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely.


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Midknight#9798
You do see the word buttplug more often, and it has the same general shape, which is what your mind first processes


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
he was a nobody till Iowa


[06-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Midknight#9798
that's just how brains work


[06-Feb-20 07:34 AM] Midknight#9798
kind of organist to hold brains doing brain things against someone!


[06-Feb-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He himself pronounces it more like Buddha jij


[06-Feb-20 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
it's okay I suspect he'll last a few more rounds of caucus' then drop out and never be heard from again, except maybe as a consultant in soime tech firm


[06-Feb-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
he's young gay biden


[06-Feb-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
only problem with Sanders is he is pushing 80


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren VP


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
and treasury secretary


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
at the same time


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
[capitalist cries of terror in the distance]


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
actually, would she remain the treasury secretary if she were to assume office as president if bernie died?


[06-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think there's any rule against it.


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
which is kinda retarded


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of shit is retarded about presidential succession.


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that she could pikk ANYONE as her VP once assuming the presidency.


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
Ilhan Omar is old enough for VP,


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
She could pikk a contest winner if she wanted.


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
it's dumb how so much of the US government working properly relies on good faith


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or she could pikk Snowden


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
fly him in from Russia


[06-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pardon and all.


[06-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
wouldn't make him VP but pardoning him would be good


[06-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or is he too young?


[06-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Opponent#3498
bipartizan system in general relies on good faith.


[06-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Opponent#3498
cause it's too, well, binary otherwise.


[06-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
also getting Manning out of solitary


[06-Feb-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Chelsea Manning is still in prison for refusing to talk to a Grand Jury


[06-Feb-20 07:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
pikk
it's pick nebbie not pikk


[06-Feb-20 07:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
why is it you don't use the letter c?


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
redundant letter


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Honahue#0656
letter c is redundant, k and s do it's jobs


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and why is it redundant?


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Honahue#0656
k and s do it's job


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Midknight#9798
no you need c for ch 😛


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
tsh, actually


[06-Feb-20 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that still doesn't answer my question


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
tshurtsh


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Midknight#9798
that's not the same


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It actually is.


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I exclusively write in tengwar and ch is it's own character


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
ther is no c only k and s


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Midknight#9798
no because tsh is more of a *tish* and ch is more of a t *on top of* the sh


[06-Feb-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
~~not ture but I do write in tengwar for fun~~


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's only if you add the vowel sound in between


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
stop isn't sitop


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Honahue#0656
either way ch is just unvokalise K


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
English just doesn't like t followed by a consonant.


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Midknight#9798
no but tsh sounds like a cymbal, ch does not


[06-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Midknight#9798
they're not the same sound


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting people to say things like "ksik" is difficult with English.


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Though


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can chekk how wiktionary etc. show IPA for English


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
of course Th is a dipthong


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
and there's too th and dh


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
two


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so do you write things in real life without the letter c?


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really annoying that English had two letters for those


[06-Feb-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then used 'th'


[06-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I only do respellings where it doesn't matter.


[06-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to make them accepted enuff that in the end they start to permeate.


[06-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Honahue#0656
again tengwar has 2 characters for th and dh, plus everything looks like a hobbit wrote it


[06-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think tuff/ruff/enuff/coff are close to where I can use them openly.


[06-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
okay so when you do programming you still at least use the letter then


[06-Feb-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reluctantly.


[06-Feb-20 07:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so what made you dislike the letter c?


[06-Feb-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Redundancy.


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Midknight#9798
it starts Celestia's name


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and why c instead of y?


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
y has a use as a consonant.


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(or a vowel; English actually has insufficient vowel characters)


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Midknight#9798
eou


[06-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Midknight#9798
instead of you 😛


[06-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
Selestia


[06-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, English has 10 vowel sounds for 7 vowel characters.


[06-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Welcome to my life.


[06-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Midknight#9798
a e i o u y and what else are kids declaring a vowel these days?


[06-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vowel in put has no character


[06-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you assign it 'u', you're missing the vowel in "judge" instead.


[06-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[06-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what do you do for the vowel in "boot"?


[06-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And besides being hard from start, I am not musician to distinguish and learn minute changes in a daily life.


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
OH DEAR


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking it's happening


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is within .1% of Pete


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
96% reporting


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
this american vs british vowels got me fucked up


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well to go further in your quest to abolish the letter C shouldn't you remove the C from your name? Prinsess Luna


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
One small step at a time.


[06-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
prinkess


[06-Feb-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All these skwares make a sirkle.


[06-Feb-20 07:58 AM] Midknight#9798
British vowels? Oh you mean like "coloor" 😄


[06-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOUR HONOUR


[06-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Honahue#0656
there is Anglish which attempts to remove foreign loan words from English which does make it a bit more consistant on spelling


[06-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Honahue#0656
damn french


[06-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Machina Machine is the stupidest shit


[06-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Machinations of the machine.


[06-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho I think now many just say "mashinations" pretty much.


[06-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Atomic Theory was translated into anglish, it's titled Uncleft Discoverings


[06-Feb-20 08:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so do you base your spelling changes on anything? such as Cyrillic? or you just invent as you go along?


[06-Feb-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't exactly complex changes.


[06-Feb-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just toss out the weirdest consonant things from English.


[06-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
English has a ton of phonetics, but they're inconsistent and needlessly complex.


[06-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hardest is vowels.


[06-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because again, there just aren't enuff characters in the alphabet for them.


[06-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
'a' is pulling quadruple duty.


[06-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
uh oh nebbie you are slipping that should be a "komplex."

still interesting. have you considerd writing a small book or thesis on the subject and getting it publish? could be a interesting read in a journal or maybe the op end piece somewhere.


[06-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not an expert in linguistics and there is no money to be made there anyways.


[06-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
cawmplex


[06-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[06-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
cawmrade


[06-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[06-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457

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[06-Feb-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
I found that image on google search when looking for a pfp for glimmerbooru


[06-Feb-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC, native English speakers have a massive working vocabulary compared to many other languages, such as French or Spanish


[06-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
queen khrysalis of the shanglings


[06-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
kween krisuhlis uhv thuh tsheinjleengs*


[06-Feb-20 08:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Currently rock statue


[06-Feb-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So yeah, Bernie/Pete is nekk and nekk now.


[06-Feb-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
4% left.


[06-Feb-20 08:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like Satellite Caucus and Council Bluffs


[06-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If you look at russian language, all sounds are faily distinct. No diphongs.


[06-Feb-20 08:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As non musician, the only issues I have with russian, are with "emphasises", where emphasizing a vovel changes word meaning


[06-Feb-20 08:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow did you mean "*kaw*"?


[06-Feb-20 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[06-Feb-20 08:26 AM] Midknight#9798
what do you get when a bird falls in a wood chipper? 

caw slaw


[06-Feb-20 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
ha ha very funny, now go to gulag


[06-Feb-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/934/383/412.jpg

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[06-Feb-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion has been on-point lately https://politics.theonion.com/trump-lifts-obama-era-protections-trapping-gangthor-the-1841190945

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Trump Lifts Obama-Era Protections Trapping Gangthor The Malevolent...
WASHINGTON—Denouncing his predecessor’s water regulations as overly restrictive, President Donald Trump announced Thursday he was lifting protections enacted by the Obama administration to permanently entomb Gangthor the Malevolent in a murky trench deep below the Pacific...
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[06-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/aTMCQoD

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Insulin
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[06-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
OH MY GOD HE'S BEEN INFECTED WITH SOCIALISM


[06-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
SOUND THE ALARM


[06-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Crow#5457
THE GAY WEED IS SPREADING SOCIALISM


[06-Feb-20 09:01 AM] Midknight#9798
gay weed? you mean kale?


[06-Feb-20 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
colorado is the first state that legalized weed in the US


[06-Feb-20 09:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who is Gangthor?


[06-Feb-20 09:23 AM] Midknight#9798
it's a version of Thor where the MCU did a crossover with Naruto and he learned Shadow Clone Jutsu


[06-Feb-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion made up the name.


[06-Feb-20 09:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/XuhBcQs

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The United State's Secretary of State
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[06-Feb-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/t35AXyG.png

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[06-Feb-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
self-own?


[06-Feb-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[06-Feb-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers don't get Simpsons.


[06-Feb-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Simpsons is a long critique of Boomer culture.


[06-Feb-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Boomers are too dense to get it.


[06-Feb-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the way Boomers consume Simpsons is like how most people watch FiM: Nothing but "fun moments".


[06-Feb-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
In it for the memes.


[06-Feb-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But ultimately the whole thing is a Gen-X-fueled satire showing a corrupt horrific world without any hope in which characters routinely get their innocence lost.


[06-Feb-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's an episode where Lisa investigates Springfield's founder, realizing him to be a former slaver/pirate


[06-Feb-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
a museum guy sabotages her investigation but when caught, reveals to her that he hides it all to keep people celebrating


[06-Feb-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The episode ends with Lisa giving up on revealing the truth, and stepping off stage during the parade...followed by a gunshot to where she just stood, cause the mayor's sniper fired anyways, and nobody notices.


[06-Feb-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note Rick & Morty ended an episode in a similar manner with the child rapist king Rick killed because he figured out the guy tried to rape Morty.


[06-Feb-20 10:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lisa is the villain of the show for them


[06-Feb-20 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://youtu.be/Z3TtDiNBYIE

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Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington
Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington
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[06-Feb-20 11:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/yeardleysmith/status/1225068509899571200?s=21

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That’s pretty good! I might just add f*ck you @mikepompeo for co-opting my character to troll @SpeakerPelosi . Be a leader and fight you own fight! Oh, wait I forgot, you’re a follower. https://t.co/EzCtEZmKzJ
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[06-Feb-20 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ripped-into-romney-for-voting-to-convict-impeachment-trial-2020-2

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[06-Feb-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-in-chaos-after-primaries-require-basic-math

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Democrats In Chaos After Being Forced To Do Math For First Time
IOWA—The Democratic primaries have broken down into chaos after the party encountered its archnemesis head-on for the first time: basic math.While progressives were optimistic going into the primaries, they'd forgotten that numbers, counting, and addition would be required....
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[06-Feb-20 02:31 PM] illumnious#7938
'One place left to hold him accountable': Trump acquittal raises stakes for Democrats https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/one-place-left-hold-him-accountable-trump-acquittal-raises-stakes-n1130986

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'One place left to hold him accountable': Trump acquittal raises s...
Some of the president's critics worry that their field of candidates isn't up to beating him with New Hampshire's primary days away.
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[06-Feb-20 02:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh my God


[06-Feb-20 02:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/Lvm3xeO1lA0

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Jonathan Pie
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Jonathan Pie's HARD BREXIT
When Pie reports on a UKIP protest march he finds himself at the centre of a twitter-storm which threatens his reputation and career. 
For tickets to see Jonathan Pie FAKE NEWS: 2020 go to https://www.jonathanpie.com
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[06-Feb-20 03:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/AxJOXNyihA0

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ZDF heute-show
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Brexit: The British have finally left the EU! | German political c...
For the first time in history, a country has left the European Union. Quo vadis, Great Britain?
(from German television channel ZDF on January 31, 2020)
#heuteshow #Brexit
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[06-Feb-20 03:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Watch live: Trump attends annual National Prayer Breakfast https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-live-trump-attends-annual-national-prayer-breakfast-78221381611

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Watch live: Trump attends annual National Prayer Breakfast
President Donald Trump addresses religious leaders and lawmakers at the 2020 National Prayer Breakfast.
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[06-Feb-20 03:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1225311552837996544

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After forecasting a more than 95% chance of a win for Pete Buttigieg only an hour before, the NYTimes has now recalibrated its forecast needle, now showing a 54% chance of Sanders winning Iowa as satellite caucus results begin to come in.
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[06-Feb-20 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>still no full results


[06-Feb-20 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[06-Feb-20 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really makes you think about the competency gap between these guys and the ones handling national elections


[06-Feb-20 03:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tbf it's not the Iowa caucuses are at all effective. Like they're so open and public anyone voting in them can be bullied there or later on.


[06-Feb-20 03:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
But on the other hand they're so open and public Sanders's team can keep better track than the Shadow app, made by Clinton, Biden, and Buttegieg


[06-Feb-20 03:26 PM] illumnious#7938
This offense me  https://twitter.com/talbertswan/status/1225283827502911488?s=21

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[06-Feb-20 03:27 PM] illumnious#7938
This offense me a lot


[06-Feb-20 03:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/unlocked-391-bernie-won-2520

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We celebrate Bernie's victory in the Iowa Caucus.

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[06-Feb-20 03:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Wooot


[06-Feb-20 03:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
I love angry Matt Christman


[06-Feb-20 03:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/erinmperrine/status/1225418383384072193?s=21

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Morning in America 🇺🇸
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[06-Feb-20 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
MSNBC gargling Pete's cock so hard it's tickling their duodenum


[06-Feb-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
The bright side is that Sanders is booming basically everyone. So even if we can say that Buttegieg won through the most rat-faced CIA ghoul way, literally being Juan Guaido in Iowa then he's taking hard lumps everywhere.


[06-Feb-20 03:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/trump-delivers-remarks-at-the-national-prayer-breakfast/2020/02/06/5ff2f078-5766-4cd1-9d44-03e82a177c02_live.html


[06-Feb-20 03:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/revdrbarber/status/1225420781288611840?s=21

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Trump just walked into the National Prayer Breakfast & didn’t bow in submission to God, but held up papers saying acquital & flaunted his supposed glory & victory. What’s worse, preachers & many other attendees applauded him. https://t.co/MWPH63EjXy
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[06-Feb-20 03:45 PM] illumnious#7938
End my suffering


[06-Feb-20 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```The Onion has been on-point lately```


[06-Feb-20 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
never for a moment doubt he'd do that, too


[06-Feb-20 03:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1225174713992990721?s=21

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[06-Feb-20 03:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then, one day in the future, for no reason at all, the US elected a virulent atheist


[06-Feb-20 03:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As far as they're concerned, Trump is the least christian president in the nation's history, but he's "our guy"


[06-Feb-20 04:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Amber Frost does a good speech https://youtu.be/XPLtVgOdhzY?t=5080

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Bernie Won | Chapo Trap House | Episode 391 FULL
We celebrate Bernie's victory in the Iowa Caucus.

TOUR DATES:ALL TICKETS AVAILABLE AT: http://www.chapotraphouse.com/tour/



Las Vegas, NV Feb 18, @ House of Blues
San Diego, CA, Feb 23, @ The Observatory North Park
Sacramento, CA Feb 28 @ Ace of Spades



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[06-Feb-20 04:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"2032: President Ocasio-Cortez acquitted of all charges, brags at National Chapo Trap House meeting next day"


[06-Feb-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
pfft. 'Is it worth risking the life over'.


[06-Feb-20 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
they shoot you over the political matter, you win (twice over, you're dead, _and_ you're a martyr), and they just gave the opposing movement a symbol.


[06-Feb-20 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
being locked away for many years and swiftly forgotten by everyone, now that sucks.


[06-Feb-20 04:09 PM] Opponent#3498
no symbol, no nothing, your life is shattered and so is your health and quality of life, and you're still left to deal with it because _suicide is bad amirite_


[06-Feb-20 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
And since I'm thinking about it, from their live-show at Iowa City, before the previously posted episode: https://youtu.be/Vsx2m2uKd5g?t=3527

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The first 45 minutes and last 45 minutes of our nearly 3 hour show in Iowa City  on Feb 1.  Between canvassing and caucusing didn't have much time to edit this one, so it's dangerously uncut. Also the poor hosts couldn't hear the song on stage while singing, please forgive us...
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[06-Feb-20 04:13 PM] illumnious#7938
@Teaspoon he's not even a Christian to begin with


[06-Feb-20 04:14 PM] illumnious#7938
He doesn't even read the Bible


[06-Feb-20 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem is it just doesn't matter


[06-Feb-20 04:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can list all the things he's done and conservatives will excuse all of it because "our guy"


[06-Feb-20 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When he said he could shoot someone in fifth avenue and get away with it, he wasn't kidding


[06-Feb-20 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thinking the country and its people make sense doesn't work anymore


[06-Feb-20 04:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/nancy-pelosi-pre-ripped-pages-of-trumps-sotu-speech-video-shows/amp/#click=https://t.co/e4bItGSTPt

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi apparently made tiny tears in her copy of President Trump’s State of the Union address — so that her speech-ripping moment could go off without a hitch. As Tr…
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[06-Feb-20 04:17 PM] illumnious#7938
That's a useless news


[06-Feb-20 04:17 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Feb-20 04:18 PM] illumnious#7938
I wish that too


[06-Feb-20 04:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Warning, cringe material ahead. Approach with protective equipment

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[06-Feb-20 04:20 PM] ononim#8141

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[06-Feb-20 04:20 PM] ononim#8141
got anotha' silly one, lads


[06-Feb-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not just that Trump is their guy, but he;s slowly replacing their god with himself


[06-Feb-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
No


[06-Feb-20 04:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Just no


[06-Feb-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of these days, he's going to say he's their god, and they;re all going to cheer


[06-Feb-20 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
You mean the top tier God


[06-Feb-20 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
In his fucking dreams


[06-Feb-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, only the american gop christians will cheer. The international community will will be revolted


[06-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will be seen as a heretic outside america


[06-Feb-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure even his ambitions don't stretch further than the emperor.


[06-Feb-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he calle dhimself the second coming of god last year


[06-Feb-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I dunno. Probably read somewhere about a monarch, the 'God's representative on Earth'


[06-Feb-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
and got confused


[06-Feb-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
but I suppose you never know.


[06-Feb-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
the emperor is also vastly more preferable in terms of optics.


[06-Feb-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
international optics, that is.


[06-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think our international optics are dead at this point


[06-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes, his end goal is god emperor


[06-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with a blood line dynasty in place of actual elections


[06-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
essentially he wants what north korea has but on a much larger more well armed scale


[06-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is also up to some shit with Isreal and Jerusalem probably because the only parts he;s heard form the bible are the power fantasy prophecies


[06-Feb-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate to parallel him to the nazis buuut...


[06-Feb-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZxo2SrmbME

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HUGE! Student Loans CAN BE DISCHARGED in Bankruptcy
Chief Bankruptcy Judge Cecelia G. Morris has discharged more than $220,000 in student loans while declaring that 32 years of bankruptcy case precedent has been misinterpreted.

Skip to 9:10 if you want to get straight to the case.

#studentloans #bankruptcy #discharge

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[06-Feb-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
a big deal


[06-Feb-20 05:18 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent I thought suicide was only bad when other people do it, but never to the ones who claim suicide is bad, yet do it themselves


[06-Feb-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to christian comics, if you;re bullied into suicide, you;re the bad guy and the bullies should receive no comeuppance


[06-Feb-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also you go to hell...


[06-Feb-20 05:22 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I assume christians are never bullied nor ever become depressed?


[06-Feb-20 05:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1225452019789508609?s=21

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90% of Americans say they are satisfied with their personal lives. 

That's a new RECORD HIGH.

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[06-Feb-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh they are and do, they just have to suppress it deep down inside and endure it or else god hates them forever


[06-Feb-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is part of why christianity is having a recruitment crisis because at least in america, it inflicts horrible mental and emotional abuse and strain


[06-Feb-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of other reasons too


[06-Feb-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the correlation to the GOP that thye will never be able to get off of themselves because that shit is ingrained in american culture now


[06-Feb-20 05:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> get off of themselves 
:nut: ❓

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[06-Feb-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american christianity is basically tied to the republican party now and it;s killing them slowly


[06-Feb-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because unsurprisingly, younger people want none of that bullshit


[06-Feb-20 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP is the boomer party


[06-Feb-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile younger generations are abandoning the religion because a lot of them were raised abusively and realized this once they got out from under their parents


[06-Feb-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I read that there were periods of religious revival in america multiple times. I hope that doesn't happen again.


[06-Feb-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if there is a revival it will likely be very small and if religion is forced out of politics, then it likely wont grow large enough again to infiltrate properly


[06-Feb-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, that also requires we fucking teach this shit to future generations so they dont fall into the pit traps again


[06-Feb-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue facing christianity today is... megachurches


[06-Feb-20 05:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) issue for them, or for nonbelievers?


[06-Feb-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch

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A megachurch is a church with an unusually large membership, especially one preaching a conservative or evangelical form of Christianity and also offering a variety of educational and social activities. The Hartford Institute for Religion Research defines a megachurch as any ...
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[06-Feb-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
megachurches have all but tied christianity to the GOP and has made many people see it as a large scale scam


[06-Feb-20 05:44 PM] jlun2#8758
If that article wasn't there, I'd thought it was a concert lol


[06-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rright?


[06-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets even better form the outside


[06-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:45 PM] jlun2#8758
That looks like a corporate office


[06-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:48 PM] jlun2#8758
the 1st 2 look like either a stadium, or a tech bro campus


[06-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
even more fitting is that just like a tech bro campus, google searches of megachurches seems to give me either mostly white audience, or mostly black, but never mixed


[06-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dumbest part is by all biblical definition, megachurches are an affront to god...


[06-Feb-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Feb-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
JESUS MART!


[06-Feb-20 06:29 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
It's easy when you don't have to pay taxes hehe


[06-Feb-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And people bitch about the catholic church...


[06-Feb-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I think people mostly complain about the kids getting raped these days


[06-Feb-20 06:30 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
evangelical churches are a solid business in Brazil


[06-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I know people who actually made a fortune with it


[06-Feb-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someone please make Edir Macedo pay his taxes


[06-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TomPerez/status/1225468833458245632

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https://twitter.com/TomPerez/status/1225468833458245632
Enough is enough. In light of the problems that have emerged in the implementation of the delegate selection plan and in order to assure public confidence in the results, I am calling on the Iowa Democratic Party to immediately begin a recanvass.
Twitter


[06-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(head of the DNC)


[06-Feb-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
herecomes the rigging


[06-Feb-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're trying to shut down Bernie, but that only makes him stronger in the eyes of the people


[06-Feb-20 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which are the ones supposed to be overseeing this whole process


[06-Feb-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has been shown that, no matter how much rigging and fixing and scale thumbing the DNC can plausibly do, Bernie's victory is indisputable


[06-Feb-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which is causing the DNC centrist elite to fall even further into desperation


[06-Feb-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will recanvass and suddenly biden will have won despite all odds!


[06-Feb-20 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If this is how it's supposed to be, this is the death of the Iowa caucus as a barometer


[06-Feb-20 06:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would they become trump supporters just to stop bernie


[06-Feb-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they do that, they'll just come up as two-faced hypocritical morons. They've built their whole political identity around "not being Trump", which means they've put themselves into a catch-22


[06-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We're at 97% reported, what's wrong


[06-Feb-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The DNC is scared at the prospect of a Bernie victory


[06-Feb-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's what's likely


[06-Feb-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They've done everything they could to stop him but everything failed


[06-Feb-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They basically want to drag the caucus out long enough that aybe people will jsut forget about it


[06-Feb-20 06:55 PM] jlun2#8758
> two-faced hypocritical morons
That never stopped people before.


[06-Feb-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2017/rpt/2017-R-0231.htm


[06-Feb-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the premise of a recanvass for those wondering


[06-Feb-20 07:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/389414260305952768/675039281206657044/received_179565723313378.jpeg

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[06-Feb-20 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[06-Feb-20 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie giving a speech rn


[06-Feb-20 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"From where i come from, the person with the most votes wins"


[06-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
> We're at 97% reported, what's wrong


[06-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's wrong is they can't find a way to make Pete win without being caught.


[06-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they count again and he still loses


[06-Feb-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but this time they drag it out so maybe, just maybe enough people will stop caring


[06-Feb-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a stall tactic to new hampshire


[06-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Honahue#0656
yes but I think Sander's supporters aren't disgouraged by this they're galvanized


[06-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[06-Feb-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This isnt going to work, but at this point perez is desperate to try anything and please the DNC board of investors


[06-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Honahue#0656
it only worked in Iowa cause it's a mostly old white population, Bernie won withoug question in the Iowa areas with non english speakers and Mosques. Once he gets into states with higher levels of diversity it's gonna be a cake walk


[06-Feb-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Perez himself gives no shits if trump remains president, he just wants neoliberal corporations to keep shoveling money into his facehole


[06-Feb-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s clearly in this for the money


[06-Feb-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and bernie scare sthe money away


[06-Feb-20 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
well yeah, Bernie is the only canidate that wants to change things even a little


[06-Feb-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/the-failure-of-democratic-opposition

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The Failure of Democratic Opposition ❧ Current Affairs
The Democratic party establishment have shown they are incapable of taking on Trump. They are assuring his reelection.
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[06-Feb-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
An important read


[06-Feb-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not inherently pessimistic, just very pro-Bernie


[06-Feb-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I wonder is this how the anti Trump GOPers were feeling like during 2015-2016


[06-Feb-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[06-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not rabbit ears


[06-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're horns


[06-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meant to symbolize the person is getting cucked


[06-Feb-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, good news


[06-Feb-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/brianneDMR/status/1225489437494251520

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New statement from the @iowademocrats responding to @TomPerez. It seems to be pushing back on the idea that Perez can even request the recanvass. "Should any presidential campaign in compliance with the Iowa Delegate Selection Plan request a recanvass, the IDP is prepared."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQHQGszXsAMigzx.png:large
Twitter


[06-Feb-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No recanvass


[06-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like she thinks her voters are just conservatives who like minor reforms.


[06-Feb-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Iowa DNC has just argued Perez does not have the authority to request one since he is not a candidate


[06-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Honahue#0656
Perez counting and recounting the Iowa results and realizing the more he counts the more clear Bernie's lead becomes

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[06-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah the recanvass won't happen


[06-Feb-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Bernie is basically predicted to sweep all of the primaries


[06-Feb-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Pete


[06-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_f7-uGJOo

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[06-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought this guy got banned from youtube


[06-Feb-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
wasn't that nazi pug man


[06-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, banned from twitter and patreon


[06-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
YT and FB have "nazis are OK" standards


[06-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Listen, it's not racist, but you've gotta look at the shape of the cranium before you can criticize the economic trade routes in the 18th century"


[06-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Senator Scott wants a constitutional amendment to make impeachment require 2/3 in the House


[06-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I want a pony


[06-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Vote Vermin Supreme

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[06-Feb-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh Vermin Supreme is kinda based


[06-Feb-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He could be a good element for pushing libertarians leftward


[06-Feb-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The pony is more than just your pony though


[06-Feb-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's your ID


[06-Feb-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It's our pony

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[06-Feb-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's mandatory


[06-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he wants the standard for conviction to be the standard for charging, naturally.


[06-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people investigate things and hav trials.


[06-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mere suspicion with multiple accounts that are technically hearsay, and one gay writing a book in act of betrayal? If we allow that, catholic priests could go to jail!


[06-Feb-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is now predicted to win the primary in all 50 states


[06-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

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Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?
FiveThirtyEight's polls and forecast for the 2020 Democratic presidential primary election.
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[06-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
1 in 2 for Sanders.


[06-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's cause the polls for New Hampshire show Bernie way ahead.


[06-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's dropping like a rokk lol.


[06-Feb-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Better odds than Clinton had against Trump, but only by a little


[06-Feb-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not decisive


[06-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, but New Hampshire is a clencher.


[06-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it comes out the way the polls say, and Nevada does similar, it's over for Biden


[06-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
At that point, it's just Bernie vs. Warren, Pete, and Bloomberg.


[06-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg and Pete are kinda scary, but the thing to realize here is Warren may very well drop out to become Bernie's running mate


[06-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
at which point her voters go to Bernie, while Pete and Bloomberg split "moderates"


[06-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
I dunno, she tried to burn him hard with the sexist thing before the debate


[06-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
didn't work but


[06-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
She didn't do that


[06-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
CNN did that


[06-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Honahue#0656
she accused him of calling her a liar on TV


[06-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah CNN did bullshit the question too


[06-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think Warren got baited


[06-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201822573238026240/675069425195679794/image0.jpg

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[06-Feb-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
bench appearo decides strawmen are very punchable https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/05/why_the_democrats_wont_stop_bernie_142316.html

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There is no doubt that Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., is now the leading Democratic presidential candidate. That's not because his ideas are overwhelmingly popular -- a majority of Americans approve of...
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[07-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, a conservative is mad that Democrats are allowing liberals to take control of the party.


[07-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cry some moaaaaar.


[07-Feb-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie it's benny boy


[07-Feb-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
AOC feet pics or gtfo


[07-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[07-Feb-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
this is a real tweet https://i.imgur.com/L9lINEq.jpg

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Not a meme he actually tweeted this
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[07-Feb-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
and this https://i.redd.it/re81ub9658p31.png

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[07-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[07-Feb-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] where did the feet pic meme start


[07-Feb-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/ocasio-cortez-fake-nudes

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Ocasio-Cortez' Fake Nudes
Ocasio-Cortez' Fake Nudes refers to a controversy wherein a picture of a woman in a bathtub was falsely attributed to congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The claim it was Ocasio-Cortez was quickly debunked by a contributor to Wikifeet, a website for foot fetishists. The c...
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[07-Feb-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
oh. ty


[07-Feb-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
also TIL there's a wikifeet


[07-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/IAmGryphoneer/status/1225056405557796864

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[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I do wonder if Bernie would yield a little to pick a moderate for VP


[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope not


[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wouldn't pick Pete or Bloomberg


[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obviously


[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
His campaign team was researching whether Warren could be VP and Treasury Secretary, remember.


[07-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The answer seemed to be yes.


[07-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is the actual moderate.


[07-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're going to pick Warren you might as well cast the net bigger


[07-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't there some red state Democrat he can pick


[07-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sherrod Brown maybe


[07-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREknOdkPbA

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Trump addresses the nation on Senate impeachment acquittal
President Trump delivers remarks after being acquitted in the Senate impeachment trial.  #FoxNews

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[07-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, the point of Warren is that it secures the female vote without compromising anything, Its.


[07-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also reassures capitalists just enuff


[07-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's a name people will know from the primary.


[07-Feb-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/75fe8c1076d98d41ecf9a7ddb9be53c0

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Trump administration moves ahead on shrinking Utah monuments
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The Trump administration on Thursday implemented plans to downsize two national monuments Utah, ensuring the lands previously off-limits to energy development will be open to...
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[07-Feb-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
there is Shacortez porn out there somewhere


[07-Feb-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and I am going to find it


[07-Feb-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nickriccardi/status/1225560404639862785

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Nick Riccardi (@NickRiccardi)
https://twitter.com/nickriccardi/status/1225560404639862785
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Associated Press is unable to declare a winner in Iowa’s 2020 Democratic caucuses.
Twitter


[07-Feb-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/raf-mildenhall-liking-trump-campaign-tweets-against-democrats2020-2

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A renegade Air Force base is 'liking' Trump's 2020 campaign tweet...
The Twitter account for the military base "liked" tweets from Trump's 2020 campaign, including messages that disparaged Democrats.
https://i.insider.com/5ae8b2c119ee8647008b4704?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Feb-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-won-iowa-popular-vote-buttigieg-electoral-college-2020-2

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Why Bernie Sanders won Iowa's popular vote, but Pete Buttigieg may...
Based on the way the Iowa caucuses work, a candidate can win the most votes and still lose overall by not obtaining the most delegates.
https://i.insider.com/5e3c480a0ce3d179be3f0b1e?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had a thought today, how much longer will it be before people have focused on how "forgotten" rural America is that it actually becomes cities/coasts/suburbia that becomes forgotten


[07-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And how would a candidate whip up votes by appealing to them


[07-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"These country bumpkins want to control you! They call us elite but demand that their land is more important than us, regular people!"


[07-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/06/803506238/attorney-general-barr-issues-new-rules-for-politically-sensitive-investigations

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Attorney General Barr Issues New Rules For Politically Sensitive I...
The attorney general himself must approve opening a case into an active presidential race. President Trump and supporters have decried what they've called bias by the FBI during the 2016 campaign.
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[07-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes, there was bias


[07-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
... against the _Clinton campaign_


[07-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he's saying he won't investigate Trump, but will investigate Bernie, basically.


[07-Feb-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really wish peter griffin wasnt running the justice department


[07-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/business/status/1225562363732123650?s=19

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Bloomberg (@business)
https://twitter.com/business/status/1225562363732123650?s=19
JUST IN: The AP says it is unable to declare a winner in the Iowa caucuses https://t.co/K4RmeuyTUU
Twitter


[07-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AP gave up


[07-Feb-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://t.co/dFWfwi8Hs5?amp=14

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Associated Press unable to declare winner of Iowa caucuses
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — The Associated Press said Thursday that it is unable to declare a winner of Iowa's Democratic caucuses. With 97% of precincts reporting from Monday's caucuses, former...
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[07-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no mention of Comey announcing Clinton reinvestigation days before the election, I see.


[07-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So what stops Pete from asking Iran to help him dig up dirt on Trump or Bernie etc


[07-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's not president


[07-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well he can ask


[07-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just hav to become president after to follow thru hard.


[07-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
<https://twitter.com/revdrbarber/status/1225420781288611840>


[07-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
> “Again, the devil took [Jesus] up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
> 
> Jesus knew the right answer. These guys don’t.


[07-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pay for deepfakes of like, Trump doing awful shit that crosses a line


[07-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No limit now.


[07-Feb-20 01:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking they probably support him doing so tbh


[07-Feb-20 01:01 AM] jlun2#8758
trump doing line crossing i mean


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the only thing that would get you removed is like


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Child rape


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
on the Senate floor


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Directly funding a terrorist attack on election day


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
on live TV


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could do it in off-hours.


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could do it in private.


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not on the Senate floor on live TV.


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We liv in a society.


[07-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also no


[07-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Republicans would allow funding a terrorist attakk


[07-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd say the president has the right to declare war on individuals.


[07-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using whatever officers he wants


[07-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
including the Taliban.


[07-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would logically imply you could impeach the Taliban involved, but Republicans would say there's no evidence of wrongdoing.


[07-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just "hearsay".


[07-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So like


[07-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like "Oh sure, Muhammad claims his brother was willingly violating the law, but was he really?"


[07-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
"He can't see into his brother's mind!"


[07-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if we found out Pete paid a bunch of hacker terrorists to take the electrical grid down in Michigan on election night


[07-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems would impeach.


[07-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd boot his ass out and take his VP


[07-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie would then gain complete Senate control.


[07-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[07-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(unless he was the VP)


[07-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is there are really only 4 possible scenarios now


[07-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 President Bernie Sanders.
2 Senate Majority Leader Bernie Sanders.
3 The Late Bernie Sanders.
4 Senate Minority Leader Bernie Sanders.


[07-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How would the Dems not control the Senate next year


[07-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A series of primary missteps on their side mixed with Republicans saying that electing Dems means abortion just as Roe v Wade is killed.


[07-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Collins and Gardner are done. 49. So is Jones. 48.    AZ will be full blue, 49


[07-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell might be done too


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point it's up to whoever the VP is.


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Abortion needs a constitutional amendment


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally just take the Second Amendment and use near exact same language


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
nuke the second amendment


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
readd conscientious objectors


[07-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
while adding abortions


[07-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Access to safe medical abortions, being necessary to the privacy and health rights of a free citizen, shall not be infringed."- 30th amendment, 2046


[07-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
free woman*


[07-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the state that has privacy and health rights


[07-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
you also hav "rights" twice


[07-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also remove "safe" and "medical"


[07-Feb-20 01:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking 2046 sounds wildly optimistic, but sure


[07-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Access to reproductive care, being necessary to the health, safety, and freedom of women, shall not be infringed."


[07-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That works


[07-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically this says the gov't has to giv women condoms and abortions too.


[07-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also change around the 13th


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
wouldn't it be "womans"


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can say no abortions past a certain point, but you HAV TO provide for some reproductive care, so like, transplanting it into another woman.


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
At every stage.


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
because women excludes the singular


[07-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really talking about singular.


[07-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying as a whole, women in society need for this individual right.


[07-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This strengthens the argument.


[07-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying if you deny reproductive care to anyone, all women are endangered.


[07-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(anyone, *including men*)


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point being like, if you won't let guys buy condoms


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you've created dangerous situations for women.


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta really think ahead with this stuff.


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another dream one


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause conservatives WILL do that.


[07-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll say "okay women only? Guys get control of the fetus and hav no rights"


[07-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Capital punishment, being cruel and unusual, shall not exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction"


[07-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[07-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Types of cruel and unusual punishment include, but are not limited to: infliction of pain or injury including capital punishment, confinement without significant entertainment or social interaction, or other actions intended to be torturous to the individual. All such actions are considered punishment unless they are being directly used to halt the imminent commitment of crimes or warfare by the one they are used against."


[07-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just plain boot torture out the door too, along with solitary confinement.


[07-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
ICE can get rekt.


[07-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note this also affects police


[07-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police would need to show they were directly trying to stop an imminent crime when they shoot a guy.


[07-Feb-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shoot a guy running away? You just enacted cruel and unusual punishment.


[07-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still hard to convict them, but they can't use as many excuses.


[07-Feb-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Ban asset forfeiture


[07-Feb-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Make public education expressly part of the federal govt


[07-Feb-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civil asset forfeiture is gone IIRC


[07-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least subject to 8th Amendment excessive fines


[07-Feb-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Cops can still steal your shit


[07-Feb-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Until they can't, it's not "gone"


[07-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348225722487144458/675146148541104148/m2bj9frkxdf41.jpg

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[07-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Awesome" is lame


[07-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Poetic" works better


[07-Feb-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a guy who didn't think smoking caused cancer and that "exercise nuts" drove up health costs.


[07-Feb-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i'm just sitting here waiting for the long string of trump supporter stories about them threatening or attempting to kill Trump's political enemies after he put out a hit list via "victory speech"


[07-Feb-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was less a victory speech and more of an angry tirade calling for revenge


[07-Feb-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481950-trump-announces-death-of-al-qaeda-leader-in-yemen-after-us-strike

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Trump announces death of al-Qaeda leader in Yemen after US strike
President Trump on Thursday confirmed the death of an al-Qaeda leader in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_020620upi_lead.jpg


[07-Feb-20 02:47 AM] illumnious#7938
slow


[07-Feb-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/481933-jim-jordan-selected-to-replace-doug-collins-on-judiciary-committee

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House Republicans move Jordan to Judiciary, Meadows to Oversight
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will soon become the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, after the House Republican Steering Committee voted unanimously Thursday to have him replace Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/jordanjim_012720gn_lead.jpg


[07-Feb-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) does Al-Qaeda even have that significant a presence in Yemen?


[07-Feb-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far the only sizeable insurgent group i know of are the Houthis


[07-Feb-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And they're not at all friendly to AQ


[07-Feb-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck if i know


[07-Feb-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump probably just droned a random guy and declared him the leader of al qaeda


[07-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how the US does things in general.


[07-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kill people, assert they were terrorists and leaders.


[07-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody has any evidence to say otherwise.


[07-Feb-20 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban only exist to provide US politicians with leaders to kill in order to appear tough by now


[07-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[07-Feb-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not like anyone can stop his ass right now


[07-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav I never told you the "create dead terrorists" strategy?


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how you win at conservative US politics.


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as a Democrat.


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there are no terrorists, you create them.


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drone strike random people, call them terrorists, then their family members become terrorists to enact revenge.


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then drone strike them.


[07-Feb-20 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, yeah


[07-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make sure there's high civilan casualties, wash, rinse, repeat.


[07-Feb-20 02:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not like Al-Baghdadi was any significant threat anymore after he went into hiding at the Syria-Iraq border


[07-Feb-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Results for Iowa have just been completed


[07-Feb-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie got more votes but somehow got tied with Buttigieg in delegates


[07-Feb-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is the caucus system smh


[07-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar to the electoral college.


[07-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the point of the changes Bernie forced on it in 2016 was to provide the actual votes prior to the SDEs


[07-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
to show how rigged it was to certain areas.


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Bernie set everything up to be so transparent as to be like a magnifying glass to catch fire to it.


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Shadow's app was like someone just replaced the foundation with gasoline.


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] jlun2#8758
will anything even change tho


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk yes


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa's caucus IS DEAD DEAD DEAD


[07-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will NOT happen in 2024


[07-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every single person is against it now.


[07-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The IDP is getting shat on.


[07-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They dug their own grave, let someone pour gasoline in it, and someone else light it on fire.


[07-Feb-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-Feb-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even the media is jumping on the discredit wagon


[07-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Bernie maneuvered things so the IDP would start a fight with CNN.


[07-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 years in advance.


[07-Feb-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/over-one-third-of-us-troops-seen-racism-in-military-2020-2

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The number of US troops who say they've seen racism in the ranks j...
Troops polled by Military Times saw white nationalists as a greater threat than domestic terrorism with a connection to Islam or immigration.
https://i.insider.com/5e3c9f32d9db1d677558dcd2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Feb-20 03:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) Those people pictured look quite young; I hope this isn't spreading to the younger generations


[07-Feb-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those people look in their 40's


[07-Feb-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also people these days look much younger thannn people of that same age did in the 1800's


[07-Feb-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after age 25, looks tend to not be incredibly indicative of age


[07-Feb-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
until you hit like 50


[07-Feb-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even then...


[07-Feb-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know about 20 40 year olds that look mid twenties


[07-Feb-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes, some people in younger generations will become white supremecists, this does not speka for the entire generation


[07-Feb-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those younger people will also have way mroe opportunities to grow out of that mindset


[07-Feb-20 03:33 AM] ononim#8141

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[07-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow, NYT pulled their trakker for who's winning.


[07-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the inconsistencies etc. hav had them refuse to continue to update it as results finish coming in.


[07-Feb-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
interesting how geographically isolated the wins are


[07-Feb-20 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's a meme


[07-Feb-20 03:40 AM] ononim#8141
(It's a spoof of Iowa caucus using Syrian Civil War style map)


[07-Feb-20 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twisilly:


[07-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
oh


[07-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm dumb


[07-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete wins Iowa by two delegates


[07-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Predictions again are Sanders sweeping every primary


[07-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Two SDEs.


[07-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
564 to 562


[07-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the narrowest win possible.


[07-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's being challenged.


[07-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately unless it shifts drastically, Pete and Sanders get the same delegate count.


[07-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(11 each)


[07-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since actual voters do not giv a single shit about SDEs


[07-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is essentially a Sanders victory.


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders is gonna win New Hampshire by a lot.


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it killed Bidens chances


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, his only competitor for NH was Biden.


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now NH voters are gonna think Pete is corrupt, that Sanders has been cheated unsuccessfully, and that Sanders is an unstoppable machine of transparency


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not sure about Sanders sweeping the primaries everywhere


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
while Biden is a washed out piece of trash.


[07-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He will sweep until South Carolina


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The question is whether Biden can really hold on to SC


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
After losing three primaries very badly in a row.


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile biden will campaign on being an underdog


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would SC not pick Pete


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most likely results are Sanders victory and No One victory.


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
SC wants a racist. A really determined one.


[07-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is too young and moderate.


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete fired a black police chief


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if SC does pikk Pete


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is utterly dead in the water.


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders victory or No One victory.


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates choose among the top 2 in No One victory.


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No One/Not Important 2020


[07-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their choices will likely be Sanders and Biden.


[07-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they choose Biden then it's the end of the party.


[07-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they will choose Sanders.


[07-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just imagining one year from now for the Democrats if President Sanders is a thing


[07-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I suppose they'll just straight up say that they're Democratic socialists


[07-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN will be *dead*.


[07-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, I think he'll change the party name in some way


[07-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems led by Sanders in control of Congress and the Executive is a recipe for massive amounts of conservatives getting shunned permaently.


[07-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking like, federal gov't withholds funding unless you giv ex-cons voting rights.


[07-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a fight one year from now about getting rid of the EC


[07-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or packing the Supreme Court


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they'd pakk SCOTUS, actually


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
just tilt it 5-4 the other way


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big thing is like, using the purse power to pressure


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they would like, impeach Kavanaugh


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine Sanders saying outright that if Florida doesn't giv voting right to every ex-felon, it loses all funding for law enforcement.


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thing is


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd also have the entire liberal wing resign, I bet


[07-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida voters asked for this


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The old ones at least


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders can say that the people of Florida are on his side


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
I doubt it, Bernie presidency would be great but no republican is going to work with him in Congress and only a handful of dems will


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He controls Dems in the Senate now, tho


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fortunately we have an imperial presidency


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not the minority leader, but he's like, second in command.


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are they gonna do, remove him?


[07-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He determines their main policies.


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is Chuck Schumer gonna do?


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really want him to be the nominee because the history book clout is interesting


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rejecting Medicare For All after it wins the presidency is a death sentence.


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"First major party candidate who was not a member of that party"


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I really hope so


[07-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like the reverse Kasich


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think technically Horace Greeley might be that...


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders didn't join the Democratic party


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
but I'm not so sure the party dems will fall in line like the repubs do for Trump


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Democratic party joined him.


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
still want him to win though


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point isnt to fall in line, democrats arent a cult


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Kasich is quoted as saying he didn't leave the Republican party, it left him)


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need to fall in line but like


[07-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Medicare For All WINS THE PRESIDENCY


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
how do you oppose it as a moderate?


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, it wont be a cult pressure. it will be a policy pressure of soemthing that;s extremely wanted by everyone


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may not agree on every issue, but holy shit.


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
58% of caucusgoers wanted Medicare For All


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's why Bernie is tied with Pete


[07-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Honahue#0656
sure that was one of Obama's promises too in hiw 2008 campaign and even with a super majority Congress he couldn't get single payer and we got the compromised half system ACA


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is, that was done when you needed 60 votes


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't need 60 votes anymore


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Dems get 50 senators, they can pass whatever they want.


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> If they choose Biden then it's the end of the party.
> So they will choose Sanders
but my wallets


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ACA required Republican votes to pass


[07-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whatever Sanders puts forth won't.


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless it's like, 51-49 in favor of Republicans


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and even then, you can get a defection


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
won't the GOP just instantly revert it as soon as they get in power


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
52-48 in favor of Republicans is possible, but at that point, the obstruction becomes obvious.


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking away things is harder than giving them.


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans tried to take away the ACA, remember.


[07-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They failed


[07-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
it costed them the House.


[07-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you giv people free healthcare, you can never take it away.


[07-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they will fight tooth and nail to keep it.


[07-Feb-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indian giving is not a thing that's received lightly


[07-Feb-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
passing a benefcial program and thne attmepting to kill it later, results in turmoil for the ones trying to kill it


[07-Feb-20 04:17 AM] jlun2#8758
that's the first time in my life hearing that phrase


[07-Feb-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Indian giver. ... Indian giver is an American expression, used to describe a person who gives a "gift" and later wants it back, or who expects something of equivalent worth in return for the item.


[07-Feb-20 04:17 AM] jlun2#8758
(i know the concept, just not the term "indian giver")


[07-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause native american culture had reciprocity


[07-Feb-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I know it's probably referring to native americans, but I keep picturing asians in my mind


[07-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
unlike what Europeans expected of just lavishing gifts on anyone who came over.


[07-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's like "okay we gave you beads and shit, why aren't you giving anything bakk? Giv the beads bakk then!"


[07-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
realistically the colonialists were the real indian givers


[07-Feb-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/majority-democratic-voters-more-likely-vote-bernie-sanders-after-iowa-caucuses-new-poll-1486148?fbclid=IwAR2Yxlj-JnStBtfGnQcfP2PNVCEcaWvGa2Qfjduhg_v2QccuYsTXi5AGrTY

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Majority of Democratic voters "more likely" to vote for Bernie San...
Just 38 percent of respondents said they were more likely to back Pete Buttigieg for the party's nomination.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1565624/bernie-sanders.jpg


[07-Feb-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/481845-consumer-bureau-chief-explains-support-for-lawsuit-limiting-her-power

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Consumer bureau chief explains support for lawsuit limiting her power
The director of a powerful financial watchdog said Thursday that she asked the Supreme Court to strip her immunity from being fired without cause by President Trump to settle “uncertainty” lingering over the agency.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kraningerkathleen_101619gn3_lead.jpg


[07-Feb-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481815-trump-administration-urges-court-to-allow-food-stamp-restrictions-to

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Trump administration urges court to allow food stamp restrictions ...
The Trump administration is asking a federal judge to allow it to move forward with new restrictions on food stamps that could leave as many as 700,000 people without access to the assistance program.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/foodstamps_030818getty.jpg


[07-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
@IAmADeliciousPotato I'm gonna be blunt here


[07-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are completely ignorant of nazi politics.


[07-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And European politics.


[07-Feb-20 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah tbqh


[07-Feb-20 04:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's not that much of a surprise to me


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So teach me


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are like someone who came into the pony fandom saying you heard that Twiggles is King


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that he killed Optimus


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:xd:


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Germany was this big mess in the 19th century


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
tiny little states split between two major ethnicities


[07-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
MEANWHILE


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone hated Jews


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews were different.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They weren't Catholic.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had their own culture.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spain had went on killing sprees of them in centuries prior


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone loved that


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
except the jews.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah Inquisition iirc


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern stuff tolerated them, barely.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the Inquisition.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought the Inquisition threw out Jews in the 1400s in Spain?


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Inquisition did target jews more, but it usually didn't kill people.


[07-Feb-20 04:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a separate event where jews were slaughtered en masse


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"European is anti-Semitic" doesn't come as too much of a surprise to me


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just anti-semitic


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's just I thought "ok Hitler way to take it to an extreme"


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
gypsies are despised just as much


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they are different


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Figures


[07-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
and somewhat nomadic


[07-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
a big sedentary culture with a single religion etc. hates it when other people start moving from place to place with their own different culture


[07-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially since that nomadicness in a sedentary area requires merchant activity to sustain.


[07-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Merchants are distrusted.


[07-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that's part of why the inquisition targeted jews; they actually would do loans, so if you wanted your loan forgiven, just accuse the jew)


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Again, I'm not really surprised that both groups were seen as an outgroup
But I'm saying that Hitler took the "anti-Jew, anti-Gypsy" stance to an extreme (never mind the whole "kill everything that isn't Aryan" part of things)
Providing an example of a radical policy that was very much not inclusive


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a radical policy.


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The thing I never got is Jews always got pushed into "usury"


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the policy that was on everyone's minds at the time.


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is for some reason a sin


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eugenics was gaining traction from America to France


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that white Europeans were superior-born


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why in the fuck is "Person does thing for me, they get some of the money" a sin?


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that inferiors like the Poles and Jews should be killed


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It was an extreme form of an existing sentiment

Which can still be radical?


[07-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least sterilized


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eeeh


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
Yet that practice sounds american has hell


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Usury originally was any interest at all


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm no longer saying it came from left field


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sharia compliant banking still does this


[07-Feb-20 04:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
At this point I'm saying that it's going from "Twilight is a strong pony" to "Twilight is literally the one pony to rule every other being in existence she's all powerful fuck everything else" in terms of extremity


[07-Feb-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> Why in the fuck is "Person does thing for me, they get some of the money" a sin
probably because that's how you destroy families with debt spirals


[07-Feb-20 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
An addition to that


[07-Feb-20 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Perhaps it was seen as greedy?


[07-Feb-20 04:54 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And greed is sinful


[07-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


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[07-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh shit son


[07-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so @IAmADeliciousPotato, in the 1930s if you said "we should kill all the inferior races"


[07-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
most white people would cheer.


[07-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler was saying what everyone wanted to hear (except said other races)


[07-Feb-20 05:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I figured it would be a cheer
How else would his prison book gain so much traction


[07-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Honahue#0656
usury is specifically banned in Leviticus its a sin the way eating pork is a sin, it says so, all the Book of Moses are basically a parable of listen to what god says or be punished, that's why Abraham was a rightious man he never questioned god at any point


[07-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He blamed losing the war on Jews


[07-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The religious right in Germany was powerful, had been for a long time


[07-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They heard "target other religions" and were very happy


[07-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Btw Hitler was very well-liked by American businessmen.


[07-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially Henry Ford


[07-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler gave the guy medals.


[07-Feb-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
religion, not even once


[07-Feb-20 05:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] https://www.wired.co.uk/article/mormons-experience-religion-like-drug-takers-feel-highs-neuroscientists-say

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Believing in God can trigger the same reward regions of the brain ...
Brain scans have shown that religious experiences activate the same neural systems as drug taking
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[07-Feb-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
so does masturbation

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[07-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as for Hitler's economic policy


[07-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
he was basically doing a faux socialism


[07-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence the name


[07-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
National Socialist Party


[07-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was promising shorter working hours and mandatory vacations.


[07-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This gave him a lot of support and torpedod actual socialists and capitalists alike.


[07-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He still didn't win the vote a ton at first, tho


[07-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that, well, he literally burned down the Reichstag


[07-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and later on, went on purges within the party


[07-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea was to sever allies one at a time


[07-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Divide and conquer, after amassing tons of allies, basically.


[07-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, eventually, it was just whoever Hitler wanted in charge, and the camps with jews at first didn't kill, and people were not really aware of what was going on.


[07-Feb-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The populace tho, was very okay with the Gestapo.


[07-Feb-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a way to get rid of neighbors you didn't like.


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only radical thing about Hitler was this process of purging opponents.


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It led to complete control


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
which meant that by the time they started killing the jews in secret, nobody could speak out.


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what "First they came for" is about.


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a warning to never just go "I'm not X, so I don't care X is being purged."


[07-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you get it now, @IAmADeliciousPotato?


[07-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler was a moderate who went full moderate to then slay all his allies and use their husks to rule the country.


[07-Feb-20 05:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Hol up lemme read


[07-Feb-20 05:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah it checks out


[07-Feb-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Feb-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Mayor Cheat


[07-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cheat buttgag


[07-Feb-20 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The sad thing is, Pete *could've* been the new face of the moderate Democratic party


[07-Feb-20 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, he came onto the scene looking like some kinda wunderkid who spoke a bunch of languages and had support as a gay liberal in the midwest


[07-Feb-20 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then it turns out that, no, in fact, he is too good to be true after all


[07-Feb-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ofc it's not like the signs weren't there from the beginning


[07-Feb-20 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it weren't for the rat faced victory lap he pulled, he might have been able to save some face


[07-Feb-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it just took until the party where he was rubbing shoulders with elites for the glamour (and I mean that in the fairytale sense) to wear off for most people


[07-Feb-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the Iowa caucus was just the nail in the coffin


[07-Feb-20 05:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was he the one who did that party in the wine cave?


[07-Feb-20 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[07-Feb-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, the red flags were there well before that, if you looked into his history before he burst on the scene


[07-Feb-20 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains why the dnc is sucking his dick


[07-Feb-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think they thought he was less of a hot potato than Biden


[07-Feb-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, he ousted entire black neighborhoods and sold the land to rich white folk to increase city revenue


[07-Feb-20 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For both parties to be burning at once *does* present a unique opportunity, though, if Sanders can capitalize


[07-Feb-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe this can present a phoenix from the ashes moment


[07-Feb-20 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it had better, if it's not too late already


[07-Feb-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the dnc doesnt pull a hillary again...


[07-Feb-20 05:38 AM] Honahue#0656
they want too


[07-Feb-20 05:38 AM] Honahue#0656
just hoping Bernie can keep his momentum


[07-Feb-20 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
all the accountability that Sanders ensured was in place for the Iowa caucus...that accountability is *not* going to be there for the general election. McConnell singlehandedly made sure of that, and we're probably out of time to get something in place even if the metaphorical gun was put to his head tomorrow


[07-Feb-20 05:39 AM] Honahue#0656
winning Iowa was a great start though and the DNC trying to scew him is galvanizing his supporters


[07-Feb-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention making the DNC head hoist himself on his own petard


[07-Feb-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that thing with trying to call for a do-over? He doesn't have the authority to do that


[07-Feb-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone was pretty immediate in response with "The fuck you will!"


[07-Feb-20 05:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> he ousted entire black neighborhoods and sold the land to rich white folk to increase city revenue
That sounds like something from a boomer porn


[07-Feb-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that description is a little hyperbolic, but yes


[07-Feb-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he had an "urban redevelopment" strategy that shot first and asked questions later. Questions like "was someone planning to live here, actually"


[07-Feb-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he gentrified the town and, much like his memoirs of his college days, pretended the homeless didn't exist


[07-Feb-20 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/481796-gaetz-files-ethics-complaint-against-pelosi-for-destroying-trump-speech

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Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) announced that he is filing an ethics complaint against Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for “destroying” a copy of President Trump’s speech after his State of the Union address.
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[07-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was her own copy


[07-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a fukking record.


[07-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
god liberals are the worst, they'll eat up and meaningless performative crap like it's actually accomplishing anythign


[07-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wasn't doing that for liberals.


[07-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi isn't a liberal.


[07-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her whole thing is to try to manipulate the media so her relatively conservative base of moderates can remember she exists and is "doing" things.


[07-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also to bury media coverage like the thing about not impeaching Bush.


[07-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
moderates aren't a thing, congress is almost entirely liberals


[07-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
What measures are you using?


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...:wat:


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
538's measure of liberals showed less than half of Democratic *voters* are liberal


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
moderate is a meaningless designation


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Until very recently.


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
what's the moderate position on gay marriage or abortion


[07-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
By what standard is Nancy and most congress liberal?


[07-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moderate position on gay marriage is civil partnerships


[07-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moderate position on abortion is only in the first term and with tons of restrictions.


[07-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Honahue#0656
they are liberals because they subscribe to liberal ideologies which are generally inconsiestent but some themes are human rights and property ownership and contract law, but they also tend to ignore those when convienient


[07-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then that's meaningless


[07-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're using the economic version, which every single person in modern politics has signed onto


[07-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about a fundamental approach to how the world is viewed in terms of how to treat other people


[07-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yes, that does say human rights are a liberal thing


[07-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there are still major distinctions in application between the two


[07-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nancy Pelosi is not a liberal by this standard.


[07-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
liberalism isn't some fundamental world view, it arose out of enlightenment thought


[07-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
fucking christ dude


[07-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
> If you did this to open the Super Bowl they would have (rightly) beaten you to death on the spot.


[07-Feb-20 09:04 AM] Mani#1404
Why is our government so evil.


[07-Feb-20 09:04 AM] Mani#1404
I hate this country. I wish I could move.


[07-Feb-20 09:05 AM] Midknight#9798
yoo haff feets, yes?


[07-Feb-20 01:29 PM] Opponent#3498
```Hitler was saying what everyone wanted to hear (except said other races)```


[07-Feb-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
ironically enough, apparently in WW1 it was different. The jews on the eastern lands nazis were rolling over apparently didn't really believe rumors and news that it really was that bad for them at first. 'Russians are the savages, Germans treated us nicely last war!'


[07-Feb-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, times change.


[07-Feb-20 01:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd say that instead of the entire world being racist and promoting things like eugenics, the idea had good geography but wasn't all that widespread. If you stopped a random guy in the street and pushed them for answers on 'others', you'd get distrust but absolute majority of people didn't care enough to actually _do_ something about it, or really support and especially suggest it


[07-Feb-20 01:38 PM] Opponent#3498
Europe in particular lived in multi-ethnicity for... ever, really. People learned to tolerate it by nessesity, even if at times of crisis you did get pogroms on occasion.


[07-Feb-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[07-Feb-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-considering-ousting-alexander-vindman-impeachment-witness-ukraine-report-2020-2

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Trump is reportedly considering dismissing impeachment witness Lt....
Sources told Bloomberg that some national security officials might be removed because they're seen as having been disloyal to President Donald Trump.
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[07-Feb-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-campaign-responds-to-allegations-of-plagiarism-on-website-2020-2

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Bloomberg campaign appears to have plagiarized parts of 8 campaign...
The Intercept found that several of Bloomberg's 2020 pledges were lifted word-for-word from other source material.
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[07-Feb-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
so what happened with 'Super Bowl', whatever that is?


[07-Feb-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not political but I don't know where else to ask xD


[07-Feb-20 02:55 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Is it bad If I dont want to live in america anymore ?


[07-Feb-20 02:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Why wouldn't you?


[07-Feb-20 02:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
It's still a great place to live all things considered


[07-Feb-20 02:57 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dont feel like its great anymore


[07-Feb-20 02:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its a weird feeling and I cant really explain it properly


[07-Feb-20 02:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
dont get me wrong I used to love living In america


[07-Feb-20 02:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but ever sense trump got in office things are going down hill


[07-Feb-20 02:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think America would be better without the government style it has right now


[07-Feb-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
also @ Nebbie, Hitler actually offered something different to 'what everyone wanted - kill your neighbour'. He offered, quite literally, 'make Germany great again'. Stop and prevent what was essentially civil war. Dismiss Versaille treaty, which had France absolutely dominate Germany's economy and really press them hard. Economic stability (although most of it, as well as Versaille reversal, could be attributed to previous government).


[07-Feb-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The main reason I'd never move back to america is health insurance


[07-Feb-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A full coverage plan is like 1200 USD a month


[07-Feb-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lesser coverage is several hundred, but only covers you for costs over several thousand dollars


[07-Feb-20 03:14 PM] Opponent#3498
quite unlike edgy internet debate, what absolute majority of the people want is stability, with a side of national pride. That was the big sell.


[07-Feb-20 03:15 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
lets not froget how divided america is right now as well


[07-Feb-20 03:15 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
we always find our selves in some kind of war


[07-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/christian-activist-wants-to-sue-nfl-for-super-bowl-halftime-show/news-story/5e2350e932885ecb15ea5b6d385a2819

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Activist to sue NFL for ‘crotch shots‘
Christian activist Dave Daubenmire is planning to sue the National Football League, claiming the Super Bowl halftime show was discriminatory against the Christian community.
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[07-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
"$867 trillion"


[07-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
bye


[07-Feb-20 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Trillion????


[07-Feb-20 04:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[07-Feb-20 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[07-Feb-20 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where in the bible does it say crotchshots are unchristian?


[07-Feb-20 04:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Pffft. Your soul has sinned already before you ever were born. (The original sin from Eve)


[07-Feb-20 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Original sin depends on the christian sect


[07-Feb-20 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm fairly sure some don't consider it a thing


[07-Feb-20 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(probably not this guy's, though)


[07-Feb-20 04:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I talked about this, it seems there is the only one *true* "sect".


[07-Feb-20 04:11 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
the nfl halftime show was so weird


[07-Feb-20 04:13 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ every sect points to the others as heretics and that they're the one true sect tho


[07-Feb-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/how-economic-inequality-has-worsened-with-death-of-american-union-2020-1-1028820308

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The House just passed a bill designed to strengthen worker rights....
The House voted on Thursday to pass one of the most sweeping pro-worker bills in decades, but it's likely dead on arrival in the GOP-led senate....
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[07-Feb-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now for a cool billt hat will sit on mcconnnell's desk for months on end


[07-Feb-20 04:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
haha workers rights at mcdonalds


[07-Feb-20 04:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats a joke


[07-Feb-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest i wouldnt be surprised if he fed all these bills to a shredder without telling anyone


[07-Feb-20 04:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
he would


[07-Feb-20 04:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
mcdonalds workers are only there for pervy men


[07-Feb-20 04:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I used to work there and it was complete hell


[07-Feb-20 04:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
you would get started and grabed by old pervy men


[07-Feb-20 04:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and no one would do anything


[07-Feb-20 04:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
cuz they are paying customers


[07-Feb-20 04:59 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and you have to take customers crap you cant fight back


[07-Feb-20 05:00 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they payment is crap to


[07-Feb-20 05:01 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
also half of the managers are bitchy teenagers


[07-Feb-20 05:02 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh and the way they clean is stupid


[07-Feb-20 05:02 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they dont even have one person who cleans


[07-Feb-20 05:02 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they pick someone from random


[07-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
retail seems to do that with carts, it;s rare to find a store that has designated cart pushers like i was


[07-Feb-20 05:03 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
its very rare


[07-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hire a goddamned janitor you pricks


[07-Feb-20 05:03 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I have wayyy to many stories and exactly


[07-Feb-20 05:04 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I was always tasked with the cleaning cuz no one else would do it


[07-Feb-20 05:04 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
me and mum would have to clean everything


[07-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had to push carts by hand because our machine was constantly broken


[07-Feb-20 05:04 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
we had a soda machine that was shit


[07-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and when it wasnt broken, customers woudl try to ram it with their cars


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
no one would fix it and It would srping 3 cups at a time then they would all break


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it wasnt moving fast enough


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and everyone would be all uwu just cant fix it


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
BUT


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they were able to do a fucking remodle and buy a new mcafe that broke in the same day


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit mcdonalds


[07-Feb-20 05:05 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh yeah haha


[07-Feb-20 05:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
you would have to start doing the drinks by hand then you have slow time


[07-Feb-20 05:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
OH


[07-Feb-20 05:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
we were in a race with all of the other stores


[07-Feb-20 05:06 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and If you get in the red area you had to move fast and that usually fucked things up


[07-Feb-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/QHXHp6D.jpg

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[07-Feb-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/481993-appeals-court-rules-democrats-cant-sue-trump-over-emoluments-claims

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Appeals court rules Democrats can't sue Trump over emoluments claims
A federal appeals court in Washington threw out a lawsuit accusing President Trump of illegally profiting off his private businesses while in office, ruling that the Democratic lawmak
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[07-Feb-20 05:16 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I hate how much he gloats x.x


[07-Feb-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone does, except the gop because it;s "owning the libs"


[07-Feb-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is more of a pest than a president


[07-Feb-20 05:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh deffiently what about that time he said he was sent from god do be president


[07-Feb-20 05:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ha


[07-Feb-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
multiple times


[07-Feb-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at every religious event he goes to


[07-Feb-20 05:21 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
he reminds me If onision was a president


[07-Feb-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
he even raped a kid :^)


[07-Feb-20 05:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait trump did ?


[07-Feb-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he went to epstein parties


[07-Feb-20 05:22 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
:spikegag:


[07-Feb-20 05:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Appeals court rules Democrats lack legal standing to sue Trump over alleged emoluments violations https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-emoluments-case-n1132441

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Federal appeals court dismisses Trump emoluments case
The suit was dismissed on technical grounds
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_06/3220756/200207-donald-trump-se-1047a_e5c81f8dd4e8f7cc9cbd24ce1573268d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[07-Feb-20 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
wouldn't his twitter be more proof ?


[07-Feb-20 05:23 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they even had to baby sit him


[07-Feb-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah trump fucked a 14 yo at an epstein party


[07-Feb-20 05:24 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
:spikegag:


[07-Feb-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also just directly stated he sexually assaults women and he can do that because he's rich


[07-Feb-20 05:24 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
grab em by the pussy


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think he abuse melon too (gonna her melon cuz I cant spell her name)


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
melania


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
melon is better


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
he raped his previous wife too btw


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Ivana I think


[07-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's hard to keep track of how many people this man has raped


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think ivana is his daughter


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who he also wanted to rape


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Ivanka


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
no, ivanka is his daughter


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
ivana was his former wife


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
he probably has fucked her tho


[07-Feb-20 05:26 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
"daddys little girl"


[07-Feb-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of his children are also likely the product of rape


[07-Feb-20 05:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh god right


[07-Feb-20 05:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they all have low intelligence


[07-Feb-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also liekly has a lot mroe children than the 3 he touts on stage and the 4th who wants nothing to dow ith him


[07-Feb-20 05:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
they all stand with mouth opens deffiently alot more


[07-Feb-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of Trump Jr's decisions can best be summed up as "Please love me daddy"


[07-Feb-20 05:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
oh god yeah trump jr


[07-Feb-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump actually calls trump jr. a moron live on stage with him right next to him


[07-Feb-20 05:29 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think trump prefers his daughters and somen more


[07-Feb-20 05:29 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its obvious


[07-Feb-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, he can sexually assault his daughters and not get called gay


[07-Feb-20 05:30 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
hes probably the kind of guy to find someone for the daugther one of good breeding and all of that old shit


[07-Feb-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like jared kushner


[07-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/481998-trump-hotels-charge-secret-service-up-to-650-per-night-while

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Trump hotels charge Secret Service up to $650 per night while prot...
Secret Service personnel traveling with President Trump to his private luxury properties in Palm Beach, Fla., and Bedminster, N.J., pay rates as high at $650 per night at his properties,
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[07-Feb-20 05:48 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
secret service if ya know what I mean


[07-Feb-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Should this goes here or #general-discussion https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/02/07/antarctica-just-hit-65-degrees-its-warmest-temperature-ever-recorded/


[07-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/4bFn2J9

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This is the orange dingus’ america, this is predictable for Alabama
https://i.imgur.com/XkcpNkEh.jpg


[07-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it begins


[07-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well... continues


[07-Feb-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would anyone be surprised if a nazi tattoo was under his shirt?


[07-Feb-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
sweet home alabama


[07-Feb-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
where the skies are so blue


[07-Feb-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
sweet home alabama


[07-Feb-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
where your sister's fuckin' you


[07-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler didn't *promise* "kill your neighbor", no


[07-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
but that's what he provided while in office that people loved


[07-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the Gestapo were popular.


[07-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He promised to remove the neighbour to make living space


[07-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Germans just loved the idea that they could get rid of each other on a whim to settle disputes etc.


[07-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not a great cultural trait, I must say.


[07-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lebensraum, eerily similar to what's going on now in a certain middle-eastern country...


[07-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
(The US tried to suppress this info because knowing the Gestapo were popular would kinda weaken the US' new anti-Nazi position in terms of policies)


[07-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the US meanwhile had HUAC and all that.


[07-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Inquisition, except no one ever gets pardoned


[07-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My neighbor totally is hiding Jews, me accusing him has nothing to do with him having that annoying tree


[07-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Onion still on-point https://politics.theonion.com/sanders-makes-last-minute-appeal-to-moderates-by-remind-1841494235

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Sanders Makes Last-Minute Appeal To Moderates By Reminding Them Al...
MANCHESTER, NH—In a last-minute attempt to court the much-sought-after demographic, Senator Bernie Sanders appealed to a town hall of moderates Thursday by reminding them all of his policies would wind up getting watered down enough to match their positions anyway. “Liste...
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[07-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[07-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The party will fall in line


[07-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, there's another debate tonight


[07-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html

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[07-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
bye bye Biden


[07-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
eat shit


[07-Feb-20 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482043-iowa-democrats-extend-deadline-for-campaigns-to-request-recanvass-of-caucus

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Iowa Democrats extend deadline for campaigns to request recanvass ...
The Iowa Democratic Party is extending the deadline for presidential campaigns to request a recanvass of caucus results amid concerns about i
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[07-Feb-20 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ThatManedWolf/status/1225416988471762945

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He's got my vote. #BernieSanders2020
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[07-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lol Biden on par with Warren


[07-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's gonna be hilarious if Bernie pikks her as VP and Biden gets salty.


[07-Feb-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610 (pinned)
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Generation Gap
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[07-Feb-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
high key tho


[07-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/zVP85zi

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[07-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looks random on Warren and Biden, but for sure not on all other candidates


[07-Feb-20 11:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/republican-joe-walsh-drops-out-of-the-presidential-race-calls-gop-a-cult-and-trump-its-cult-leader-2020-02-07?mod=newsviewer_click

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‘I would rather have a socialist in the White House than Donald ...
Walsh dropped out of the presidential race and plans to help elect Democrats now.
http://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/MWimages/MW-HZ863_JoeWal_ZG_20200207103641.jpg


[07-Feb-20 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] Bernie be like Heckelied. Which unfortunately I can't find on YouTube anymore because it was removed.


[07-Feb-20 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Found the lyrics at least on German Wikipedia https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckerlied

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Heckerlied
Das Heckerlied ist ein Revolutionslied der Badischen Revolution von 1848/1849. Friedrich Hecker versuchte mit dem von Konstanz ausgehenden Heckerzug die Revolutionäre in Baden zu sammeln, um die Residenzstadt Karlsruhe einzunehmen und anschließend die großherzogliche Regie...


[07-Feb-20 11:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I swear there was a verse in there about hanging the priests from the entrails of the nobles but I guess it was removed for the Wikipedia version, or that was added later


[07-Feb-20 11:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I never knew there were other Rep. even in the race; thought it was just Trump


[08-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the Trump party now


[08-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/07/politics/alex-vindman-donald-trump-impeachment/index.html

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Key impeachment witness Vindman fired from White House job
Lt. Col. Alex Vindman, the top Ukraine expert at the National Security Council, was pushed out of his role Friday months earlier than expected, according to a statement from his attorney. Vindman was not slated to leave until July, but had been telling colleagues in recent we...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191118104827-01-alexander-vindman-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[08-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They also kicked out his brother


[08-Feb-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's the GOPOT


[08-Feb-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the grand old party of trump


[08-Feb-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/482071-key-house-dem-say-perez-must-go-he-doesnt-lead-on-anything

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Key House Democrat says Perez must go: 'He doesn't lead on anything'
A top Democratic voice on election reform is calling for the ouster of Tom Perez, the powerful chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) who has come under fire following the Iowa caucuses.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/perezthomas_062619upi_lead.jpg


[08-Feb-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/482045-collins-says-it-would-not-be-appropriate-for-trump-to-retaliate-against

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Collins says it would not be appropriate for Trump to retaliate ag...
Sen.
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[08-Feb-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet he will because revenge is the only emotion he has


[08-Feb-20 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
the "Key House Democrat" is Marcia Fudge


[08-Feb-20 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
saved you a click


[08-Feb-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess this upcoming week is jsut trumprevenge stories against those who "wronged" him during th eimpeachment hearings


[08-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So is Bolton gonna release the book anyways?


[08-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fudge should be Speaker of the House.


[08-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let Pelosi be Ambassador to the Vatican once Bernie wins.


[08-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, he's gonna release it.


[08-Feb-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostlikely


[08-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was threatening imprisonment if he does.


[08-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's gonna be a shitshow.


[08-Feb-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be a best goddamned seller if it does release


[08-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
no kidding


[08-Feb-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the shit show will be glorious to watch


[08-Feb-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iwill buy a copy myself because it sounds fantastic


[08-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/525607700713963520/675487347030097940/Screenshot_20200207-072909_Chrome.jpg

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[08-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the party of trump now


[08-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
this is a stupid image


[08-Feb-20 12:49 AM] jlun2#8758
make a better one with ponies pls


[08-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-state-of-the-union-was-half-american-carnage-half-morning-in-america

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Trump’s Speech Was a Bataan Death March of Bullsh*t
And it was a wakeup call for Democrats, who have acted as if 2016 was a fluke and Trump’s personal sh*tshow, corruption, and idiocy all but ensure an easy win in November.
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[08-Feb-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
please let the economy crash _hard_ in the next half a year


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is the only thing resembling a "Republican" is now Mitt Romney and Tulsi Gabbard.


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it crashed, he woudl still be yelling about how great it is


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The party of Trump is too different.


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't learn


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans always do this short term shit


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It always crashes


[08-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It crashed with Reagan


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It crashed with HW


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It crashed with GW


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially since he has conflated his supporters into beleiving the stock market is the economy so it never looks *too* bad


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it may not take long enough to crash


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If he gets re elected shit will crash in 2022 and we'll all wonder why


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
we may be condemned to four more years if it doesn't crash _soon_


[08-Feb-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
americans make their political decisions based on vague feelings about their lives and the economy


[08-Feb-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of my vague feelings are telling me to flee to ireland but i cant afford that so i have to vote sanders instead


[08-Feb-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
if I had the money I'd be out of here on the next flight to stockholm


[08-Feb-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would also consider the scandinavian countries since they offer immigration from america on a permanent basis instead of just work visas


[08-Feb-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was considering scotland but america only gets a visit/work visa type situation, never a true immigrant option there


[08-Feb-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don't entirely blame them for that


[08-Feb-20 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
why either of these countries


[08-Feb-20 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
and not scandinavia


[08-Feb-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well my ancestors are form ireland so their whole bloodline thing might pull it off easier for me, but scandiavia has better things going so i would probably choose that instead


[08-Feb-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I would never pick a country to emigrate to based on lineage


[08-Feb-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i mean ireland has a thing where they grant citizenship to irish lineage


[08-Feb-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah...


[08-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/675490865652695050/EQFRaQPUEAE-E9q.png

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[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've watched it.


[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's as good as FiM.


[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to check that out


[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aims for younger audience, so the plot's a lot simpler, all slice of life stuff


[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the humor is amazing.


[08-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
A cross of that and Gumball would be what I hope for in Pony Life.


[08-Feb-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so.. norway, finland, or denmark?


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it is a very liberal cartoon in the end.


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
sweden as well


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bluey refuses to pay for a pony ride if her friend can't also ride


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
(this is a second before that pony shitting happens by surprise)


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is it called again?


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bluey.


[08-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main character is the little blue dog on the right.


[08-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two on the left are her parents.


[08-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Mom on far left, Dad just left of Bernie)


[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn if Dad is left of Bernie he must be basically Stalin

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[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh neat, episodes are uploaded on the disney junior channel on youtube


[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He works from home and has a great sense of humor.


[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's for kids


[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[08-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
miniplayer is disabled


[08-Feb-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never use miniplayer


[08-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just remember seeing the scene where he talks about how bats pee over themselves


[08-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I was like wtf


[08-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's like me if I were a dad, it's great.


[08-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, if I had more of a filter.


[08-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a scene where he freaks out the neighbor dog lady by talking about how sometimes he likes to slap his own bum as hard as he can.


[08-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main thing I don't like is the very extended "play" storylines.


[08-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the fairies thing


[08-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some eps are just where the parents do pretend play with the kids for the whole episode and it just drags on too long without much happening.


[08-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best eps involve the parents only being around part of the time so that the interaction can be more condensed and meaningful.


[08-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it's just because 4 characters in a scene is too many.


[08-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Dingo and the mom barely do anything, Bluey/Dingo or Bluey/dad is always the most important interaction.


[08-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sounds like early Simpsons


[08-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Early Simpsons for preschoolers.


[08-Feb-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is adorable


[08-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Early Simpsons also was meant for a younger audience


[08-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The main character was Bart after all


[08-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they realized Homer was better.


[08-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Bluey's dad is sufficiently child-directed to keep it aimed low.


[08-Feb-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
I hope econ doesn;t coincidentally die if Bernie gets elected


[08-Feb-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well bernie's whole thing is saving the economy by putting the people in better control of it over corporations


[08-Feb-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better pay, bettersocial programs, less systemic abuse


[08-Feb-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anything dies during bernie's run should he get in. it;s entirely the party of trump's fault


[08-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah the economy would be better if people own part of the company they work for


[08-Feb-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has been rolling back regulations that kept corporations from becoming abusive monarchies and running things liek their own tiny countries


[08-Feb-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d5ea7c6f9ba89262b72378198d91e983

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[08-Feb-20 01:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Jesus Christ. 
This "language" option at teh hospital.
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[08-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
COST TAE GET IN


[08-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ya dunna ken, @PwnyPony?


[08-Feb-20 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
T'Scøøtish Nationæl Hælth cäre systum


[08-Feb-20 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Oolster scoots is a protected language. stop making fun or ill call teh fat heads.


[08-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Vindman and Sondland both fired


[08-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, fascism.


[08-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
vindman's twin brother was also fired


[08-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
who's also a lieutenant colonel, huh


[08-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
buttigieg's at 13 delegates, bernie's at 12


[08-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
in iowa


[08-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
99% reporting


[08-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
gross incompetence for it to take so long


[08-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's rigged


[08-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
2.5 SDEs got missaigned to Pete


[08-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is what gets him the 13th


[08-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
what does SDE stand for?


[08-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
State Delegate Equivalent.


[08-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the numbers used to determine what you get per precinct


[08-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
then are used to figure out actual delegates


[08-Feb-20 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Warren to gift her's to Bernie and take Iowa pls


[08-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, some precinct has 5 SDEs


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vote is 52% Bernie, 31% Pete, 17% Warren in this precinct


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
what happens to delegates that were given to people who drop out of the race?


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
First each is given 1


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are reassigned I think, you drop out below 15% per precinct.


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Talking only Iowa level here


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
so


[08-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
(people who drop out nationally retain their delegates)


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren already has 20%


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
1/5


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's satisfied.


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete and Bernie aren't


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
I mean if warren announces she's dropping out of the race, are her 5 delegates just lost, or do they get redistributed to the others?


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
people, for an outsider. Why does this shit matter at all?


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 is added to each,  since 3 remain


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't a legitimate vote for any position


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now Pete is satisfied, at 40%


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
so what is this?


[08-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
determining who gets to run against trump


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now there is a problem


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
whoever wins the largest number of delegates nationwide wins the primary and gets to run against trump


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you giv the last 1 to Bernie, then you've got 40/40/20


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the vote was 52/31/17


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav to decide between 40/40/20 and 60/20/20


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow okay, and Iova specifically matters because?


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a coin is flipped


[08-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
it's the first


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
mm. Okay.


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in SOME precincts


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
you'd think they'd all be ran simultaneously.


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
there's only been one candidate who won the primary who didn't win iowa


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete was first given 1 delegate


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
but I guess that's the 'sane voting system' thing.


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
then a second from a coin flip


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEN a third


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
oh, it gets worse


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
the system itself varies by state


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
so every single state has a different way of appointing delegates


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow her 5 delegates would be just lost forever.


[08-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
that's dumb


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It works.


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
lovely.


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So these overtransfers of SDEs gave Pete a lead


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
I am not watching, ping me when Bern executes Buttcheck with a firing squad


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got some roundings he shouldn't've


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then mysterious extras on top


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how he's being given the Iowa win


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
IDP is going to get lawyered to shit over this.


[08-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was the point of Bernie making them publish all the info


[08-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can prove that he's been cheated mathematically, past all the coin flips.


[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
http://whotv.com/2020/02/07/former-iowa-democratic-chair-says-iowa-democrats-should-sue-dnc/

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Former Iowa Democratic Party Chair Calls for Lawsuit Against DNC
DES MOINES, Iowa -- The former chair of the Iowa Democratic Party has called for Iowa Democrats to file a lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee.

Michael Kiernan appeared on WHO Radio's Need to Know with Jeff Angelo to call for Iowa to fight back against those who...
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[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> The former chair of the Iowa Democratic Party has called for Iowa Democrats to file a lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee.


[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all preemptive lawyering right now.


[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somebody's going to jail.


[08-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a question of how many people and how many years.


[08-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Michael Kiernan appeared on WHO Radio's Need to Know with Jeff Angelo to call for Iowa to fight back against those who try to blame the caucus counting problems on Iowa.


[08-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's LITERALLY THEIR PROBLEM


[08-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
they were SUPPOSED to run it smoothly


[08-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the lawyer tactic.


[08-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You sue ahead of time to ward off blame.


[08-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is even if the judge rules against you, your litigation scares off most who would go after you in the media, and you can grind things out to reduce the judgment against you.


[08-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
a better question is, what of the actual nominations?


[08-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
do the numbers stand or?


[08-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they get thrown out, the problem is reporting and assigning final delegates.


[08-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's a difference of one final delegate.


[08-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The IDP is trying to rob Bernie of victory in the media.


[08-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In that, no lawsuit can stop them.


[08-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time it would go thru, it's long over.


[08-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
that's that then. I don't think a trial over voting fraud, which is highly likely to be downgraded to a lesser offense once the media forgets about it, would hurt even those few who do get punished


[08-Feb-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
net result is, they won. At least, this particular battle.


[08-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
NH debate on


[08-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
sounds like Sanders is winning it already.


[08-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482123-buttigieg-criticizes-my-way-or-the-highway-sanders

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Buttigieg criticizes 'my way or the highway' Sanders
Former South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg took a shot at Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at the latest Democratic presidential debate on Friday, criticizing what he described as the senator's "my way or the highway" brand of politics.
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[08-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Y E S


[08-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
While Pete was still learning to spell his name, Bernie was taking down the bourgeoisie.


[08-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_imagine this being said by someone while the camera is at a Dutch angle_


[08-Feb-20 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I haven't watched the debate yet but


[08-Feb-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll guess none of Bernie's opponents have provided a sound response to his argument for raising the living wage


[08-Feb-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Right?


[08-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mostly fights about electability


[08-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all Trump


[08-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden saying Trump's shown him the most love


[08-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah


[08-Feb-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the hell


[08-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie saying that Trump's tearing up the constitution and Mitt Romney's the only one with a spine


[08-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg gets it too


[08-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Others trying to keep up


[08-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mainly because Bloomberg is worth like 20 times Trump is


[08-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[08-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always thought Bloomberg was a rando rich guy


[08-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turns out he was good at making databases


[08-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
bloomberg is the former mayor of new york


[08-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
from 2002 to 2013


[08-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but he got rich from Bloomberg terminals


[08-Feb-20 03:09 AM] ononim#8141
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[08-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eat the rich.


[08-Feb-20 03:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I thought we had robots doing that


[08-Feb-20 03:14 AM] ononim#8141
eat less fish more bourgeois


[08-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the 80s, he basically modernized stock trading


[08-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Negated the need for tickers


[08-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a30810883/iowa-caucuses-math-errors/


[08-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
> The four mistakes we’ve just highlighted have helped and hurt a mix of candidates. Three of them helped Buttigieg, while one hurt him. Biden broke even with one positive and one negative, and Sanders was hurt twice.
> 
> Fixing these errors alone will thus have a net impact of raising Sanders’s SDE total while lowering Buttigieg’s. It will be a fraction of a delegate, but at the current margin of SDEs between them, that will be substantial.


[08-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
these fucking numbers man


[08-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah this is what I was talking about


[08-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you fix the obvious errors, Sanders wins with the 99% results out.


[08-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So unless the remaining 1% favors Buttigieg, or there are more errors hidden against Buttigieg, Sanders wins the whole shebang.


[08-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has clearly been tampered with to avoid a Sanders victory.


[08-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav before us provable tampering of results to steal a win.


[08-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
In plain sight, in the first part of the primary.


[08-Feb-20 03:26 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so any chance of Bernie nom or nah


[08-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
High chance.


[08-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg is still in like, 5th place


[08-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, if word gets out more that Bernie got deliberately cheated, by the time of NH


[08-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will giv Bernie a boost and screw up Buttigieg's campaign.


[08-Feb-20 03:32 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/opinion/sunday/gig-economy-unemployment-automation.amp.html

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Opinion | The Gig Economy Is Coming for Your Job
Full-time union hotel workers are watching app-based services replace them. Who’s next?
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[08-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
again, not nessesarily a bad thing if general approach to business shifts.


[08-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
if it doesn't, it doesn't matter either tbh.


[08-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Honahue#0656
it doesn't though, it's to undermine union power so that they don't have to pay decent wages


[08-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
this is 100% a bad thing because the gig economy allows for companies to control you a lot easier


[08-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
it splits you up from your fellow workers and makes it trivial to isolate you and then take advantage of you


[08-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
it's why california's starting to legislate against the gig economy


[08-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
very slowly


[08-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
this fellow workers thing... I guess it's easier to swallow for you folks.


[08-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Honahue#0656
gig economy might work if the US had a decent safety net, medicare4all and housing but without those it's just making more homeless and poor


[08-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Midknight#9798
eeyup


[08-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Divide and conquer.


[08-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or defeat in detail.


[08-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what you call it, it's a thing. A very old thing.


[08-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
yes, because a murderous madman didn't co-opt a leftist movement in the west and twist it into the authoritarian abomination remembered as the USSR


[08-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much.


[08-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Professionals will fight this the hardest


[08-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doctors lawyers etc all have ethical standards that make the gig economy hard


[08-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is primarily unskilled labor thing.


[08-Feb-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> Doctors
Maybe in other countries, sure, but I thought doctors in US were all 🤑


[08-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
all the more reasons to keep together.


[08-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doctors require a lot of skill and lawyers require skill and creativity


[08-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not about ethics, it's about maintaining the privileged position.


[08-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That keeps them from getting replaced


[08-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be privileged.


[08-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lawyers will probably be the last people to be replaced simply because they'll fight it.


[08-Feb-20 03:59 AM] jlun2#8758
sadly


[08-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can a criminal defendant be competently represented by an AI?


[08-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would violate their rights


[08-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's fair.


[08-Feb-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking tbh, I'm convinced behind the scenes it'll probably be almost 100% automated, and just some white guy with a law degree repeating an AI generated script during the trail


[08-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Few things go to trial. Trial itself though is basically theatre. It's like asking actors to be replaced by AI.


[08-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one screams objection like Phoenix Wright but sometimes it gets close


[08-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
it would be gross negligence to have AI trials


[08-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolutely.


[08-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will be AI replacing lawyers


[08-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
not at trial


[08-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
at discovery.


[08-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of lawyer work is discovery.


[08-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's already half automated.


[08-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way to win a lawsuit is to bury your opponent in so many documents they can't possibly find the ones that incriminate you.


[08-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like any good lawyer wouldn't bury people in mandatory arbitration contracts anyway


[08-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is for things that get to a lawsuit


[08-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Hulk Hogan vs. nosey journalists


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tactic in civil suits is to giv the opponent like


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
10 million files


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just giv them your entire business operations


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything.


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time of trial, they only hav 10 useful documents


[08-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are forced to shred the rest.


[08-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've gotta share a case I stumbled upon, interestingly the guy subject to this case founded Catholic Answers


[08-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://casetext.com/case/us-v-tucker-25


[08-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I got my ballot for the california primary on march 3 in the mail today


[08-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
there's a person listed on it named "Roque "Rocky" de la Fuente III"


[08-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_De_La_Fuente

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[08-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he's a republican


[08-Feb-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What a name tbh


[08-Feb-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bougie as fuck. It is essential he be liquidated to dissolve the Californian political estate.


[08-Feb-20 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
And liberate Las Angeles from the grip of basically having no essential public services.


[08-Feb-20 05:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like the one they had was the urban rail and street car network but like every city that got torn up, except San Fran and New Orleans which are all now basically tourist spectacles.


[08-Feb-20 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
New Orleans street car infrastructure is nice though for what it does. They're old turn of the century cars but kept up nice. Though it takes fucking two hours to get from the French Quarter to New Orleans Central Park which is otherwise a forty-five minute walk down Esplanade Ave


[08-Feb-20 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
I wanna get back there so I can visit central park again. It was comfy for the full thirty minutes I was there.


[08-Feb-20 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
But God damnit build a fucking rail line or something on Esplanade or some shit you corrupt Dixie fucks


[08-Feb-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated: I saw someone flip their mustang on Esplanade once while down there and all I could ask is: "How? This street is fifteen miles an hour practically how did you do this? What the Hell? Have you drank this much already at 12 in the afternoon I don't get?" as I preceded from Frenchman to French quarter proper.


[08-Feb-20 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was there ever a Communist thinker who envisioned a neoliberalist state that would give in a little bit


[08-Feb-20 06:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Not sure if this was posted before, but :ponythinking: :squintyjack:   https://thebulletin.org/2020/02/climate-change-trump-and-republicans-pivot-from-denial-to-optimism/

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Climate change: Trump and Republicans pivot from denial to “opti...
The president has a new, “optimistic” take on climate change: promoting tree planting. And also fossil fuels.
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[08-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
god, it must be annoying as hell to stand on grass with high heels


[08-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
if you put any weight on your heels, they'd just sink straight into the dirt


[08-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
> A president cannot be charged with a crime, they must be impeached and removed


[08-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
> a president can't be removed as long as his party controls one piece of the legislative branch and they decide there should be no consequences


[08-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/lindseygrahamsc/status/727604522156228608

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If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.
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[08-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/1225978367691907072

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Here is Pete Buttigieg's answer when pressed on why black people in South Bend were four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession than a white resident.

He tried to explain it by saying there was some type of scourge of gang violence in South Bend. #DemDebate h...
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[08-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just wow


[08-Feb-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/buttigieg-only-top-2020-candidate-not-offering-staffers-health-care-n1003481

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Buttigieg is the only top 2020 candidate not offering staffers hea...
The campaign offers stipends so workers can buy insurance on their own, in contrast to several 2020 rivals who are providing health care to workers, according to an NBC News review.
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[08-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Pete was asked why under his mayorship, targeting of blakks INCREASED


[08-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did like a 2 minute long dodge


[08-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying he totes knew the problem and totally talked about it


[08-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but did nothing.


[08-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he went into "yeah well there were GANGS DUDE"


[08-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
From what I gather on Twitter, Yang, Bernie, and Biden did well


[08-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete completely set fire to himself.


[08-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, when I say "Biden did well" I mean Biden just attakked Bernie for daring to suggest that it would be good to go medicare for all.


[08-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which appeals to Biden voters because they're heartless sakks of dogshit.


[08-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yang and Bernie were talking about how people's wellbeings matter


[08-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer agreed


[08-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren tried to plant some news stories again by accusing people of things.


[08-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Pete is probably gonna lose NH cause of this...he acted worse than Biden.


[08-Feb-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's white gay Obama with baggage.


[08-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there a recap of the debate somewhere


[08-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Yang always starts a response alright but it always vears into and that's why UBI will fix it


[08-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Pete's husband is going to have sloppy seconds tonight cause Bernie fucked him hard on stage


[08-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Styer is tehre cause I'm pretty sure he just wants to meet Bernie


[08-Feb-20 08:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The longer he's there the higher the chances of landing a cabinet position, I guess


[08-Feb-20 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
the only thing to say about Klobuchar is she's wasting the best campaign slogan ever by not having any principles


[08-Feb-20 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
it's Kloberin' time


[08-Feb-20 08:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sondland also got sacked


[08-Feb-20 08:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No surprise that Trump doesn't give a shit about the whole "no reprisals for testimony under oath" thing


[08-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
people complain about 30+ yo manchildren but Trump's a 70+ yo spoiled manchild


[08-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
even his intonations are whiny child like


[08-Feb-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe I'm just a twenty something Boomer but Yang and his UBI


[08-Feb-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can take my Social Security from my cold, dead hands


[08-Feb-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you give it up for $12000 a year you're dumb.


[08-Feb-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
UBI is at best a stop gap to keep capitalism from imploding cause the proles can't live on wages anympre


[08-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[08-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal is fully automated luxury space communism


[08-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
UBI is just a stopgap, always was


[08-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
but it would only work with a bunch of other reforms too like rent control


[08-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The issue always will be people mad some people just want to masturbate and smoke pot all day and not do anything of "value"


[08-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though when there's no work who cares if that's all they do really


[08-Feb-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
I think people would try to do something besdies video and masturbation, shitty bands like grains of sand on all the worlds beaches at the bery least


[08-Feb-20 08:24 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly an honest, shitty attempt at art of some sort. Yes, it checks out.


[08-Feb-20 08:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess I'll watch the whole thing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JCTY6MxJ4I

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2020 Democratic presidential candidates debate in Manchester, New Hampshire. https://abcn.ws/38bsKh9

Podium order:
Entrepreneur Andrew Yang
Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders
Former Vice President J...
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[08-Feb-20 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
I've said it before


[08-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
I said it as soon as pete started making waves


[08-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
he's young gay biden


[08-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
policywise, he's biden


[08-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
he's just more charismatic


[08-Feb-20 09:30 AM] Crow#5457
and that's exactly why iowa democrats rigged the primary for him


[08-Feb-20 10:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Feb-20 10:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so... trump junior just killed any excuse the white house could make


[08-Feb-20 10:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not like it matters


[08-Feb-20 10:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/racially-motivated-violent-extremism-isis-national-threat-priority-fbi-director-christopher-wray

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Racially-motivated violent extremists elevated to "national threat...
FBI director says the threat posed by domestic extremists is "on the same footing" as threats posed by foreign terrorist organizations like ISIS and its sympathizers.
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[08-Feb-20 10:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It has honestly gotten to the point where the folks I know on the right hand-wave away *everything* on Twitter as "trolling," as in, the Pres and his ilk are just using the platform for funsies

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[08-Feb-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a strong case for age limits I think.


[08-Feb-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get too old, not allowed to be a legislator.


[08-Feb-20 10:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they don't *really* mean that, they'll say. You're a [insert slur of choice here] for taking it seriously


[08-Feb-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Older people end up emotionally manipulatable.


[08-Feb-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans in the Senate are not exactly young.


[08-Feb-20 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[08-Feb-20 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had a classroom full of those kinds of people for 5 semesters


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony what the really mean is that you're a terrible person for questioning anything to begin with.


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to just accept whatever the conservative gov't does


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nonono it's much more than that


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care whether or not Trump and family are "trolling"


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe you shouldn't be putting 2 and 2 together to begin with.


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's that I'm "unwilling to accept that Pelosi was a lying hypocrite"


[08-Feb-20 10:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, their entire worldview is based on the dichotomy


[08-Feb-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
you're with them or against them.


[08-Feb-20 10:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
according to them, Pelosi's been spearheading the impeachment since day one of the presidency, and apparently goes on and on about...treason?


[08-Feb-20 10:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it kinda is treason


[08-Feb-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yeah that's the common justification to distrust impeachment


[08-Feb-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the argument is you shouldn't care whether Trump is guilty


[08-Feb-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you should only care that Dems could hav reasons aside of his guilt for wanting it


[08-Feb-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that even tho Pelosi REGULARLY rebuffed attempts to impeach immediately, she's clearly part of some conspiracy


[08-Feb-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the end, this isn't what those conservatives actually believe, Wing


[08-Feb-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're Moopsy


[08-Feb-20 10:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Obama didnt get impeached because he was a democrat, they only want trump out because he isnt one of them"


[08-Feb-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they actually believe is Pelosi wants abortions, that's bad, Trump good, anything Trump does is good, any investigation is just being mad that he stops abortions.


[08-Feb-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that he stops the gays, or brown people


[08-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
whichever is their personal reason for being conservative


[08-Feb-20 10:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for the sake of argument, economy™️


[08-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, real common one on twitter


[08-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
YOU CANNOT IMPEACH GOOD ECONOMY etc.


[08-Feb-20 10:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
JBS JOBS JOBS JOBS


[08-Feb-20 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
I had a lot of fun pointing out that Clinton's economy numbers were even better when Republicans impeached him.


[08-Feb-20 10:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs doesnt even look like a real word anymore


[08-Feb-20 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just so perfect how it lines up


[08-Feb-20 10:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans cry about how impeachment was done right before Christmas


[08-Feb-20 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like...yes you did that same thing to Bill but for petty reasons


[08-Feb-20 10:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, tangential thought


[08-Feb-20 10:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not sure what to make of the appeals court decision - the headlines made it out like Congress doesn't have the power to sue for Trump's taxes re: emoluments, when by my understanding they ruled that *only* Congress - that is, a majority of Congress, has the power to do that. And the 200+ folks in the house and senate were all acting individually


[08-Feb-20 10:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So...I don't know if this is a case of the Dems not following procedure, the existing law being overturned in a court decision, or the law being different for Republicans


[08-Feb-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not following procedure in a shitty system rigged to the Executive.


[08-Feb-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The precedent comes from the time 6 congressmen objected to the line items veto thing.


[08-Feb-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereby the president was given the power to reject individual spending rules from bills.


[08-Feb-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something the constitution didn't giv, and Congress should not hav the ability to giv like that.


[08-Feb-20 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that you need a majority outright


[08-Feb-20 10:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the 186 house reps? Not a majority, doesn't count.


[08-Feb-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nevermind that the whole suit is about the president violating the constitution.


[08-Feb-20 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, there are all these theoretical limits and mechanisms against the executive


[08-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but in practice, Congress has either given up on each or the process to resolve the problem is a lengthy, convoluted wind thru the courts


[08-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the time anything's resolved, the president's term is probably over anyways.


[08-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need judges that rule hard and fast against the executive.


[08-Feb-20 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real talk, standing is a horrible thing, @WingbeatPony


[08-Feb-20 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems simple/innocent enuff on first glance


[08-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
to bring a case, you must be an injured party, or represent an injured party


[08-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut


[08-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means that if the gov't is doing something horrible, and it happens to not affect you directly, then you hav no case


[08-Feb-20 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to really horrible shit when extra red tape latches on and prevents you from being able to prove direct injury, or that you represent the party injured.


[08-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means for instance that NSA warrantless wiretaps can't be stopped by lawsuits because you first must prove that you specifically were hit by them.


[08-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the NSA doesn't need to tell you that you were.


[08-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The latter thing, of representation, is at issue here with the 200+ congressmen.


[08-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since they are not a majority in a house of Congress, they can't sue on its behalf


[08-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
great, but that also means that the president basically *can't* be sued for emoluments violations.


[08-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And since only a lawsuit could force the issue into the courts...


[08-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
he can't be penalized.


[08-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not without a majority of the House signing onto a lawsuit.


[08-Feb-20 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Federal judges all the damn time will let horrific laws continue to hurt people because "nope, no standing here! Whole thing is moot"


[08-Feb-20 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.aclu.org/cases/al-aulaqi-v-panetta-constitutional-challenge-killing-three-us-citizens

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[08-Feb-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Standing was one of the reasons for dismissal there.


[08-Feb-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't sue the gov't for someone else's due process rights if the violation *of killing them* was technically an accident.


[08-Feb-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, the gov't kills someone it wasn't planning to, nobody can sue over it, essentially.


[08-Feb-20 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Unless they were granted power of attorney previously or in the will or such)


[08-Feb-20 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
With some exceptions for the more routine stuff.


[08-Feb-20 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other big ACLU one is the NSA case of course


[08-Feb-20 11:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately it's a really good technicalities ground to rebuff attempts to actually enforce rights against gov't action.


[08-Feb-20 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just say that either the rights don't count in this situation, or that you can't prove you specifically are hurt by not having them.


[08-Feb-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/national-security-veterans-react-trump-alexander-vindman-sondland-firings-2020-2

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'He's trying to muzzle everyone': National security veterans were ...
An FBI agent told Insider they found Trump's actions "appalling," adding, "He's trying to muzzle everyone who speaks out against him."
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[08-Feb-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like i said, that wasnt a victory speech, it was a revenge speech


[08-Feb-20 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://youtu.be/eEMIUy_ySA4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMIUy_ySA4
Groundhog Day For A Black Man
When a black man lives the same day over and over again, he tries changing his behavior to survive a police interaction.

Writer/Director: Cynthia Kao
Cas (in order of appearance)t: 
Eric: Burl Moseley 
Officer 1: Ryan Stanger 
Female Officer: Celia Finkelstein 
Officer 2: Ma...
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[08-Feb-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so... how long before Trump tries to drone strike american congressmen?


[08-Feb-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... and possibly john bolton


[08-Feb-20 02:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Try?


[08-Feb-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm 100% sure he's already floated the idea


[08-Feb-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And just went along with the nervous laughter to his serious question after he proposed it


[08-Feb-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i mean tries to strictly order it, not jsut float it as a serious idea


[08-Feb-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure he's floating a lot of revenge schemes as serious ideas to the response of nervous laughter trying to downplay it as a dark joke


[08-Feb-20 03:44 PM] illumnious#7938
This is old but I just found this today https://twitter.com/lotosjk7/status/1189742046686404608?s=21

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https://twitter.com/lotosjk7/status/1189742046686404608?s=21
Never forget when the president of the United States posted this and it was subsequently taken down by a copyright claim from Nickelback themselves

This is peak 2019 https://t.co/XqDsob52T1
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[08-Feb-20 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
when even nickelback hates your guts


[08-Feb-20 03:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/us/harvey-weinstein-lawyer-donna-rotunno/index.html

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Harvey Weinstein's lawyer says she's never been sexually assaulted...
The lead defense attorney in Harvey Weinstein's rape and sexual assault trial said in an interview that she has never been sexually assaulted "because I would never put myself in that position."
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[08-Feb-20 03:54 PM] byte[]#2610
500 IQ play


[08-Feb-20 03:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[08-Feb-20 04:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the next trial she will lead with the chewbacca defense


[08-Feb-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482157-trump-jr-thanks-schiff-for-unearthing-who-all-needed-to-be-fired

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Trump Jr. thanks Schiff for 'unearthing who all needed to be fired'
President Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., thanked Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) Friday evening for helping identify “who all needed to be fired.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpjrdonald_080119upi2_lead.jpg


[08-Feb-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people should _really_ not attempt facial hair


[08-Feb-20 04:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because god is that look terrible


[08-Feb-20 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like someone used a sharpie on a bus stop advert


[08-Feb-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or glued bits of rug to his face


[08-Feb-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-07/kushner-peace-plan-collides-into-wall-of-skeptical-envoys-at-un


[08-Feb-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/482074-new-fda-policy-allows-lab-animals-to-be-adopted-after-experiments

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New FDA policy allows lab animals to be adopted after experiments
Lab animals used for research by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have a new lease on life.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/puppies_animaltesting_dogs_istock.jpg


[08-Feb-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/482042-ex-hhs-secretary-shalala-threatens-to-vote-no-on-surprise-billing-measure

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Ex-HHS chief threatens to vote 'no' on surprise medical billing measur...
Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/shalaladonna_051319getty_lead.jpg


[08-Feb-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gross


[08-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She should shalalala into a freeway pedestrian crossing

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[08-Feb-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
she's honest about it at least. It hurts her backers, so she defends them.


[08-Feb-20 05:30 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-real-time-bill-maher-bernie-sanders-supporters-trump-2020-2

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Steve Bannon used his Bill Maher appearance to argue that Bernie S...
Trump's former chief strategist insisted that the Democratic Party 'screwed' Sanders, and that his supporters should either vote Trump or not at all.
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[08-Feb-20 05:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know what this means?


[08-Feb-20 05:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It means they're scared of him.


[08-Feb-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Meanwhile, Maher closed his segment with Bannon through backward praise, saying "I wish we had someone on our side as evil as you, Steve."


[08-Feb-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can't Maher just die already


[08-Feb-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Bannon also compared millennials to "Russian serfs" who "don't own anything, and they're not gonna own anything," which Maher implied was the fault of conservative policies. The host side-stepped Bannon's pro-Sanders argument to say that the Electoral College was rigged in favor of Republicans, which his studio audience applauded. 
> With this attitude, you know the beauty of it, we're gonna keep winning," Bannon said in response. "I love this."


[08-Feb-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How compelling


[08-Feb-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please face the wall now, sir


[08-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How does someone stand within 10 feet of Bannon and not attempt to drive a BIC pen through their left temple?


[08-Feb-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or his left temple


[08-Feb-20 06:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because they already did and they're the ones that survived the lobotomy


[08-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/GrittyNRoses/status/1226185279616245762/photo/1

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https://twitter.com/GrittyNRoses/status/1226185279616245762/photo/1
So Rat Boy Pete's plan is just to lean full tilt into fascism then
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[08-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah just put people's lives on hold for years of service


[08-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That will make the economy great


[08-Feb-20 07:49 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't agree with this but if it's only a year service it's the same as Germany


[08-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans have a history of mandatory draft not working


[08-Feb-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck outta here with that shit


[08-Feb-20 09:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[08-Feb-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, pete wants to restore the fucking draft


[08-Feb-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) do boomers like that or nah


[08-Feb-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
or do they "like" it in the sense it sounds patriotic, and at the same time they're not the ones being drafted?


[08-Feb-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well war hawks like the idea, people who arent war hawks probably not as much


[08-Feb-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop has floated several times the idea of bringing the draft back


[08-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/07/mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign-instagram-influencers

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Mike Bloomberg will pay you $150 to say nice things about him
What will Bloomberg try to buy next? His campaign is quietly hiring Instagram influencers to make him seem cool
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[08-Feb-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
b i'll do it for a million


[08-Feb-20 09:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Take the money, promote him on Instagram, then turn around, say it was a prank, and pop out an endorsement for Bernie


[08-Feb-20 09:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 wanna try that


[08-Feb-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Damn him with faint praise


[08-Feb-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
spaghetti tupperware eh https://twitter.com/WordswithSteph/status/1226020037456207872

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https://twitter.com/WordswithSteph/status/1226020037456207872
For posterity, a glimpse of Donald John Trump looking back on February 7, 2020. 

Photo by soon to be ex-White House photographer William Moon. Goodnight, Moon.
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[08-Feb-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/HFv9CCx sound in source

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TRW you start losing sleep from fever dreams
https://i.imgur.com/gm086Kfh.jpg


[08-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That sound's terrible


[08-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
someone recorded their damn TV screen


[08-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
there are actual direct clips to use.


[08-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
what do you think would happen if one of those billionaire fucks paid people $1000 to go vote on election day?


[08-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
just bring proof that you voted, receive $1000


[08-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
hell, what if it was government funded?


[08-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
what if the government paid you $1000 to vote on election day


[08-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/chris-matthews-bernie-sanders-public-executions-949802/

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Chris Matthews' Wild Rant Connects a Bernie Sanders Win With Publi...
The MSNBC host talked about socialist-led “executions in Central Park” while tying those fears to Bernie Sanders
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/shutterstock_editorial_10323192eg.jpg


[08-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Matthews continued, “I have an attitude towards [Fidel] Castro. I believe if Castro and the Reds had won the Cold War there would have been executions in Central Park and I might have been one of the ones getting executed. And certain other people would be there cheering, okay?”

Then Matthews made the connection to Sanders, claiming ignorance about whether or not the candidate did, in fact, support violence and public executions.

“So, I have a problem with people who take the other side. I don’t know who Bernie supports over these years,” Matthews said. “I don’t know what he means by socialist.”'


[08-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
SOSHULIZM? DAT MEAN STALIN!!!!!!


[08-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/14/1892441/-Pete-Buttigieg-Refers-to-Small-Donors-as-Pocket-Change

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Pete Buttigieg Refers to Small Donors as "Pocket Change"
In an interview on the political snapchat show Good Luck America, Peter Hamby asked Pete about his opinions on fundraising strategy being used by his democratic colleague Elizabeth Warren. He replied: We are going up against the sitting President of...
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[08-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/LLW902/status/1226026640846835713

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every leftist is quietly wishing to themselves that actual bernie was as cool as the bernie chris matthews imagines
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[08-Feb-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/pete-buttigieg-funded-by-russian-linked-oligarch-who-supports-trump-and-mcconnell/

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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/pete-buttigieg-funded-by-russian-linked-oligarch-who-supports-trump-and-mcconnell/
Pete Buttigieg Funded by Russian-Linked Oligarch Who Supports Trum...
Pete Buttigieg is facing questions for taking campaign contributions from an infamous Republican Party billionaire with direct links to the Russian oligarchy.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/GettyImages-120482878311.jpg


[08-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Mayor Cheat is soo, soo bad.


[08-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like he saw Hillary and went "Small fries, she didn't take any bribes!"


[08-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Here's how you ACTUALLY rig things!"


[08-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/QueenInYeIIow/status/1226040042499518464

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gato fumador ❼ (@QueenInYeIIow)
https://twitter.com/QueenInYeIIow/status/1226040042499518464
Bigbrain gumshoe Chris Matthews catches the Bernie Sanders campaign trying to win the primary.

https://t.co/VOJXidqtWp
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[08-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare they attakk Mayor Cheat with words and logic when he's their main competitor.


[08-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chris Matthews should be fired.


[08-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy isn't asking anything resembling fair questions.


[08-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQRM6YhX0AMN1GN.jpg:orig

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[08-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/pylWGGh.png

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Generation Gap
https://i.imgur.com/pylWGGh.png


[08-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
this got posted here yesterday


[08-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/horselover21115/status/1226088568533196802

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small dingus (@horselover21115)
https://twitter.com/horselover21115/status/1226088568533196802
@LLW902 I truly believe Bernie is not a softie and would execute me or whoever if need be if it was the right thing to do, but it isn’t and won’t because it is wrong.
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[08-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/SadBoiTwerk/status/1226174443761946624

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🌹Ferdinand☭Flowers🌹 (@SadBoiTwerk)
https://twitter.com/SadBoiTwerk/status/1226174443761946624
@fxzkz @LLW902 @QualiaRedux People look at me weird when I say "Bernie is as far right as I'm willing to go".
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[08-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/IEschaton/status/1226155969027231744

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ImmanentizeTheEschaton (@IEschaton)
https://twitter.com/IEschaton/status/1226155969027231744
@LLW902
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[08-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Later versions of Diary of A Wimpy Kid were weird.


[08-Feb-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
diary of a wimpy kid: the draft days


[08-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/675820945298161684/image0.jpg

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[08-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know what Bernie's upset about.


[08-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The votes were redistributed evenly.


[08-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, unevenly.


[08-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Delegates, I mean.


[08-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Still uneven


[08-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it basically a tie


[08-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they gave Pete an extra delegate he didn't earn.


[08-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they gave him 2.5 extra SDEs he didn't earn.


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The errors are random for Warren, Biden


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
but on Bernie and Pete, the errors are almost all in Pete's favor and Bernie's disfavor.


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is DEFINITELY rigged.


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] jlun2#8758
so Pete 2020?


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are talking actual determinable errors that if all corrected giv it to Bernie.


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I wonder when we'll get to the point where a candidate can legitimately run on people in cities and suburbia being forgotten


[08-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A decade or so maybe


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  run on?


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie didn't run on cities


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, say that it's a major issue


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
he ran on satellite caucuses


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he got all the people currently out of state etc. to rally


[08-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people in rural areas with little access


[08-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
While at the same time courting cities


[08-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason Pete even got close is that older voters saw the writing on the wall for Biden


[08-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
and so switched to young gay Biden the corrupt


[08-Feb-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482175-biden-rips-into-buttigieg-over-experience-in-new-ad

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Biden rips into Buttigieg over experience in new ad
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Saturday tore into Democratic presidential rival Pete Buttigieg in a new digital ad suggesting the former South Bend, Ind., mayor does not have sufficient experience to be president.
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[08-Feb-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently pete's presidential strategy is "why beat trump when i can become him"


[08-Feb-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482174-contractor-blasting-through-arizona-national-monument-to-build-trump

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Contractor blasting through Arizona national monument to build Tru...
A contractor building a segment of the border wall in southwest Arizona is blasting through segments of a site local Native Americans consider sacred, according to a report from USA TODAY.
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[08-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/482156-susan-rice-warns-snoop-dogg-to-back-the-f-off-attacks-on-cbss-gayle-king-for

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Susan Rice warns Snoop Dogg to 'back the **** off' attacks on CBS's Ga...
Susan Rice ripped Snoop Dogg on Friday for his scathing criticism of "CBS This Morning" co-anchor Gayle King over a recent interview she did broaching the Kobe Bryant rape case, with the former U.S. ambassador to the U.N.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/susan_rice463887984.jpg


[08-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This whole shit is absurd


[08-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess you can't talk about bad things about people after they die.


[08-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Boomer mentality, yes.


[08-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
In some cultures, you can't even *name* the dead.


[08-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
In Boomer American culture, you're not allowed to say they were bad people.


[08-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless they're non-American.


[08-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't even saying he was bad


[08-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's talking about an objective fact, that he was accused of rape and the circumstances around the trial etc


[08-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like saying you can't talk about Michael Jackson even being accused of things.


[08-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I get people don't like "Hey did you know John Lennon beat his wife" people, but he did in fact do that


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's what Boomers want.


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want all negative facts buried with the dead.


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think I'm joking?


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are cultures


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
where you cannot even say the NAME of the dead.


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, I know what you mean.


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Period, ever.


[08-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers' whole thing about death is that they came on the scene with way less of it than ever before


[08-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they're trying to maintain fragile unity


[08-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they talked openly about the bad shit they all did after each died, it would tear them apart.


[08-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can thus not even list accusations of those who died.


[09-Feb-20 12:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that sounds very abusable; like fiddle with tons of boys, die, then your legacy will remain positive forever even if it was discovered shortly after death


[09-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[09-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Snoop Dogg just co hosted the Ellen show with Martha Stewart


[09-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now he's acting all tough


[09-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
```In Boomer American culture, you're not allowed to say they were bad people.```


[09-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it's a Boomer thing, and especially not exclusively American thing.


[09-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
we have the same idea. Speak well of the dead or remain silent.


[09-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
of course, it's hardly ever concerns political figures.


[09-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
more like interpersonal thing.


[09-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
they're gone, the shit they did is hopefully gone with them, remember them well or not at all.


[09-Feb-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent it's a trend that is loosening among younger people I feel


[09-Feb-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
:loss: isn't always a bad thing


[09-Feb-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i choose to remember all the bad shit they did so we learn from it and dont repeat their bullshit


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[09-Feb-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's part of why the south is rising again because we glorified thme too much instead of airing all their dirty ass laundry


[09-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it stems from Christianity


[09-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People are dead? Make them saints or shut up, basically.


[09-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
I think it stems from something a bit more base than that


[09-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
like the fact that people could live or die at a whim in ancient tribal societies


[09-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
maybe some base human instinct to either martyr or forget about people who died


[09-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, this isn't a cultural universal.


[09-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
All societies hav taboos about the dead, but they don't agree in the slightest.


[09-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some tribes show respect for dead relatives by *eating them*.


[09-Feb-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie i wonder how do American Christians feel given that Christianity is increasing in Africa,  but declining in historically white countries ?


[09-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think it's civilizing those savages etc. etc.


[09-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus are devoting their efforts to shoring up things at home.


[09-Feb-20 01:37 AM] jlun2#8758
i get the feeling even if every African was Christian the Christian right would still hate them.


[09-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh


[09-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just not as much.


[09-Feb-20 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjSyYRyokPo

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[09-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-first-february-poll/

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Who Won The New Hampshire Democratic Primary Debate?
How Democratic voters feel about the presidential candidates before and after the New Hampshire Democratic primary debate for the 2020 election cycle
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[09-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the good news


[09-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has shit the bed


[09-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is going strong.


[09-Feb-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
buttchug tho


[09-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, Pete is catching up.


[09-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rats tend to scurry fast.


[09-Feb-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482176-buttigieg-camp-responds-to-biden-ad-his-experience-as-mayor-exactly-why-he

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Buttigieg camp responds to Biden ad: His experience as mayor is 'e...
Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign fired back at former Vice President Joe Biden over an ad suggesting the former South Bend, Ind., mayor lacks the experience to be president.
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[09-Feb-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially mayoral rats apparently


[09-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mayors are the ground game of racial suppression.


[09-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They direct local police to target the undesirable races.


[09-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why one hasn't been elected yet.


[09-Feb-20 02:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  
> online leftist
I thought people who rant online were infamous on their ability to never vote and actually do something irl?


[09-Feb-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
only because they weren't old enough to vote before


[09-Feb-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
guess what


[09-Feb-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
they are now


[09-Feb-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much this ^


[09-Feb-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I wasn't allowed to vote in the 2016 or 2018 races


[09-Feb-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wasnt allowed to vote till 2008


[09-Feb-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
different time, same concept


[09-Feb-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though now the concept is mroe importannt than ever


[09-Feb-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/482097-gop-chairmen-accuse-dems-of-selective-leaks-to-undermine-biden

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GOP chairmen accuse Democrats of 'selective leaks' to 'undermine' ...
Two GOP Senate committee chairmen are accusing Democrats of trying to undercut an ongoing investigation involving Hunter Biden and Ukraine.  Sens.
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[09-Feb-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/482073-esper-says-pentagon-protects-its-service-members-from-retribution-amid-reports

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Esper says 'Pentagon protects its service members from retribution...
Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Friday said the Pentagon protects its service members from retribution, following reports that President Trump may oust the top White House expert on Ukraine after he testified during
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[09-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit.


[09-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
I thought he was already removed


[09-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/08/trump-tan-line-picture-forehead-hair

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Trump cries fake news as image of dramatic orange tan line goes viral
Photo of president on White House south lawn draws amusement, while indignant Trump says image ‘photoshopped, obviously’
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[09-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/photowhitehouse/status/1225909811851780096

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White House Photos (@photowhitehouse)
https://twitter.com/photowhitehouse/status/1225909811851780096
⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ returns to the White House from Charlotte, North Carolina. Photo by William Moon at the South Lawn of the White House on February 7, 2020
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Twitter


[09-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally an official fucking photo


[09-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
he's calling his own white house staff fake news now


[09-Feb-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll probably have whoever posted it fired too


[09-Feb-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or possibly already has


[09-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just get an actual spray tan


[09-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get it


[09-Feb-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it takes 2 hours for his make up team to even just get that much


[09-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A spray tan doesn't take that long


[09-Feb-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, not even just the tan, it takes 2 hours to make him look vaguely human


[09-Feb-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
under that tiny bit of a spray tan, is an massively unhuman face that has to be hidden behind a shit ton of makeup


[09-Feb-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast that's according to bolton


[09-Feb-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
him getting a spraytan would probably make all of that look weirder


[09-Feb-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/482061-republican-senators-call-on-twitter-to-suspend-irans-khamenei-zarif

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Republican senators call on Twitter to suspend Iran's Khamenei, Zarif
A group of Republican senators lead by Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) sent a letter to Twitter on Thursday asking the platform to suspend the accounts of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif to comply with U.S. sanction law.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cruzted_050119gn2_lead.jpg


[09-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So much for free speech.


[09-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[09-Feb-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
free speech for me and none for thee


[09-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything other than "Let's go and kill X" or "Fire!" in a theater should be protected


[09-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even "I hope all X die horribly" should be


[09-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I sadly could see a YouTuber shouting fire in a movie theater


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One already said they had coronavirus on a plane as a prank


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think that would have the same kind of reaction today as it would have a century ago


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh btw


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
The fire in the theater thing


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's fire signs everywhere


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is a misplaced Parks and Rec villain


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, literally


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Just because it's a cultural meme


[09-Feb-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
about shouting fire in a theater


[09-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
90% the same as Ben Wyatt from Parks and Rec


[09-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
behavior, appearance, upbringing, political connections


[09-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's in on the joke and doesn't seem to realize the guy is a villain.


[09-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parks and Rec is a satirical comedy about how bureaucracy is horrible and just wastes everyone's time so white people can embezzle money.


[09-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any movie theater now takes less than a minute to exit


[09-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete doesn't realize *why that's a bad thing*


[09-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that conservatives treat non-white non-citizens as if they're not human, so the constitution doesn't apply to them, the same way that abrahamic religions treat non-members of the religion as not human


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[09-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pete is basically someone who came of age fighting against GW Bush getting re elected who would have said Howard Dean was "too much" because of his scream incident


[09-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[09-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is someone who would've voted for GW Bush


[09-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And made up bullshit that Howard Dean was unacceptable for whatever reason possible.


[09-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The scream being the thing that disqualified Dean is absolutely fucking absurd to me.


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like Larry Craig being ruined by gay bathroom sex


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If that happened now people would help him come out or something.


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the incident that matters.


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what people want to feel.


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The incident breaks surface tension.


[09-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Creates justification.


[09-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Between Obama and Trump the question for presidents seems to be


[09-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Could they host a decent talk show"


[09-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie could. No clue about Pete. Biden et al could not.


[09-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine "The Joe Biden Show"


[09-Feb-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[09-Feb-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Letters, Policies, Dr. Pepper


[09-Feb-20 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uuuuuh


[09-Feb-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl this and sassy Wendy's twitter got the same vibe


[09-Feb-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is likely a mouse trap considering how Pete wants to institute mandatory military service


[09-Feb-20 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Pete lives in a society


[09-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bottom text


[09-Feb-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"This is sausage to me"


[09-Feb-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can pinpoint the moment where she manually activated her cognitive dissonance blocking mechanisms


[09-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
what would US even do with mandatory military service? It's not like it's short of troops for what it's already doing.


[09-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Invade Iran.


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Yemen


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Saudia Arabia


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Pakistan


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not like


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then China


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
well first of all, Afganistan proved conscripts make piss-poor occupying troops. Your mileage may vary but it's a proven road to failure.


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put people to work rebuilding bridges


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Invade China :pudding:


[09-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or maintaining roads


[09-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Opponent#3498
second, I still don't think manpower is the problem with Iran. It's the costs involved. US wars tend to be tech-heavy, and so astrononically costly, and that's vs no-names with AKs and pickup trucks.


[09-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Opponent#3498
and fighting China, well.


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Opponent#3498
they can produce a little bit more manpower than US can :twismug:  Among other concerns...


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
☢️


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
hahahahahha


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
It'd be that kind of fight


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is full MIC, Its


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't expect the chickenhawks to actually plan their invasions for restoring democracy though


[09-Feb-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
:chickun: :caw:


[09-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
actually Its, I've seen people float the idea of mandatory community service before. So it's not that outlandish, and certainly more useful than conscription.


[09-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why can't the MIC make stuff to benefit their country


[09-Feb-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
we do not have a shortage of working-class laborers, what we have is nobody wants to fucking pay for them


[09-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely Boeing or Lockheed or Raytheon could put their heads together to like, make a Staten Island bridge or something


[09-Feb-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
the rich have upended us and shook us until all the damn money came out of our pockets


[09-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The MIC doesn't want to benefit the country


[09-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its hav you taken a basic economics course?


[09-Feb-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
mandatory community service is a stupid idea


[09-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Externalities vs. profit.


[09-Feb-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
try compensating people for their work


[09-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking ?


[09-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
still better than conscription, in this day and age.


[09-Feb-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't trust a snot nosed teenager on a repair crew to not dump a bunch of plasticizer into concrete mix instead of adding more water


[09-Feb-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
and then the thing cracks and breaks in a month


[09-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
?


[09-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was being facetious. The MIC only benefits from bombs and wastes of airplanes.


[09-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, take it seriously a moment.


[09-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Benefitting the country is a positive externality


[09-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a real thing in economics


[09-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
but businesses don't feel any direct reward from it


[09-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
businesses as rational agents only want direct reward


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a company is making mad profits, but burns down the country and kills everyone...they don't care


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
as long as they're making mad profits


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's a negative externality


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that you want businesses to feel all externalities in their profits


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you want profit to align with what's best for everyone


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burning down the country and killing everyone is the goal, not a negative.


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just not something they care about, actually.


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
(usually)


[09-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least as far as the businesses


[09-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the Republicans might want the country to burn, but Exxon Mobil doesn't.


[09-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The simple fact of the matter is companies if you penalize them for harming the country, will stop doing it


[09-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if you reward them for helping, then they will help


[09-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is a failure of basic economic theory to not do this.


[09-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea the free market will always help the country without any ties of externalities to profit is...retarded.


[09-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's what Republicans push on everyone.


[09-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Ayn Rand.


[09-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ayn Rand was not good at economics.


[09-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was a PTSD riddled person who wrote her idealistic fanfiction


[09-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Early version of "Castro stole my slaves"


[09-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was severely mentally ill and Atlas Shrugged was her writing to maintain her sanity


[09-Feb-20 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
People like Ayn Rand were big or got big because they represented a new unique way to get at the USSR or bolster American sentiment towards the Soviet Union at the peak of the Cold War. She like Soltsynetsyn both came to the US from the Soviet Union with their own views and ideas on the Soviet project, all of them critical in one way or another. Rand, as traumatized as she was though, did not have a lot in the term of intellectual rigor or was all that bright but catalyzed a firm ideology hard-against the Soviet view point: that of radical individual self-determination at the cost of basically anyone.


[09-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rand was so ignorant of everything she thought people would celebrate terrorism that killed many.


[09-Feb-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Soltsynetsyn was just intellectually dishonest bullshit and cherry picking down to Nazi apologia that was so bad even his wife came out and said that Gulag Archipelago was all bullshit, but had the political effect of making Americans moist with anti-Soviet terror the same way the odd trickling of oft dubious stories do out of China.


[09-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She knew nothing.


[09-Feb-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Her whole thing was making up strawmen that the person she was strawmanning either would not respond, or would not be bothered with by American media.


[09-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was basically butthurt she wasn't the person in charge of the treasury of a 1930s tsarist government.


[09-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was basically butthurt she wasn't Stalin.


[09-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people who aren't given positions of power don't abandon humanity. She did.


[09-Feb-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2vbf2o8insf41.jpg

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[09-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ayn Rand died of heart disease because of smoking


[09-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think she blamed cigarette companies


[09-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just want to know what she would think of Bioshock honestly


[09-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd probably blame herself for not personally ruining the companies.


[09-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd also probably insist that uh...nothing in the game was a problem.


[09-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and probably strongly insist on harvesting all the Little Sisters


[09-Feb-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1225570781154902016?s=21

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John McAfee (@officialmcafee)
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1225570781154902016?s=21
I'm not Catholic,
But I go to confession.

I mostly make stuff up:

Eating babies;
Raping nuns

Stuff like that.

Went to an Eastern Orthodox church today.

Confessed to 
Forcibly sodomizing
An eldery derelict woman.

In great detail.

Priest suggested
More frequent confessions....
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[09-Feb-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such character development


[09-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Little girl making you care = weakness etc.


[09-Feb-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whoever is writing this timeline, i bet they chose McAfee as protagonist


[09-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
the priest isn't an idiot though. At least there's good odds of that.


[09-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bioshock Infinite and Yesterday are the only realistic depictions of what people would do given time travel or a history reset


[09-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd just make every famous video game ever


[09-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bioshock Infinite had a shit ending, like Reagan wouldn't have nuked Columbia


[09-Feb-20 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think I've ever necessarily finished Infinite. Like I did the main game but not the DLC stuff


[09-Feb-20 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
I should make a second stab


[09-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite part of Bioshock honestly is how much Dead Money ripped it off


[09-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Totally shameless.


[09-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I disagree with other leftists who say Fallout lost its way once they gave the player nuclear weapons


[09-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a totally apt criticism of what it wanted to do.


[09-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the one tactical nuclear weapon ever tested couldn't launch its payload beyond a range that would be safe for the firers.


[09-Feb-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A portable MIRV is a parody for sure, but still.


[09-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
```My favorite part of Bioshock honestly is how much Dead Money ripped it off```
how so? Bioshock is pretty straightforward 'libertarian = bad'. Dead Money is... about people who don't care, and those who care too much.


[09-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
very different in tone, in options, in ending, in setting.


[09-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's about letting go.


[09-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you are greedy once you find the goal, you die.


[09-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
Bioshock isn't about letting go. It ended with you taking control of the city and its resources, one way or another.


[09-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it's either good for others, or not, but you come out well enough in the end regardless.


[09-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
2 retconned it but I don't think 2 is something to consider in terms of story.


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I find it sad really that New Vegas never did what it wanted to do


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Supposedly the goal was to make Caesar's Legion sympathetic


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah they went way crazy


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck would you pick anything but NCR control


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar was just manipulating info like crazy, there was unnecessary slavery in a society WITH ROBOTS, etc. etc.


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially if you know earlier games


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legion is unstable and low tech


[09-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it'd burn itself out in 10 years


[09-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NCR is the best chance the Mojave has


[09-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
NCR has like minor, tiny flaws


[09-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There just isn't anything to justify Legion control at all.


[09-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"oopsie poopsie, this group is kinda corrupt! Do you want support the slavers?"- New Vegas


[09-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do we know how writing started?


[09-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe the original intent was NCR good, Legion bad outright


[09-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of a choice


[09-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
with just NCR control vs. BoS control vs. independence


[09-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BoS couldn't do shit


[09-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's one chapter apart from everything else


[09-Feb-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Guys we found out that Bernie Sanders once lied. Do you want to help Trump's evil satanic zombie commit genocide?"


[09-Feb-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
"His plan is basically to become Pol Pot. Totally the best option."


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
well technically the Legion started in extremely low-tech environment. It made sense to proclaim 'their way' (low tech, survival of the fittest etc) the one way as an additional means to quell dissent.


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they're in a high tech environment by the time of the game


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like how it makes me feel bad for giving Goodsprings taxes


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And instead of improving anything, they just destroy what tech they find


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yes, absolutely, they're a dead end. There's no plan for their success. House has a plan. NCR has a plan. Ceasar doesn't and he's the only one capable of it.


[09-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like goddamn did you play the previous games


[09-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caeasar in charge of the NCR could absolutely fix shit but for some reason he's decided to just kill people when starved for labor and not improve anything ever


[09-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while he himself needs high tech surgery lol


[09-Feb-20 05:17 AM] Opponent#3498
that's NCR of today. It funds itself off conquest, as much as possible anyway. There's truth to them being better off even mid-term stopped at Mojave.


[09-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly if the world can't fix itself after 200 fucking years following nuclear war it was never meant to be


[09-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
well, it's in the process of doing so.


[09-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Fallout universe went in a tech direction that ensured it couldn't survive ever.


[09-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tons of weapons, but no crops


[09-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
only people trying create mutant abominations cause no safeties.


[09-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the whole point of Fallout games. The society tries to fix itself, and war never changes... And so people must change (and I fucking loved that line).


[09-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fallout was never consistent


[09-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they had matter transformation in prototype stage re: Dead Money, so


[09-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
tech wasn't the problem.


[09-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They never went past Tefifon basically, but made video games on Pip Boys?


[09-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The original goal of Fallout was a critique of capitalism


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tech was not a problem


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was the basic approach to science and development


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What if things got so bad we used Coke caps as currency?"


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is "experiments" that just waste time and resources


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it absolutely remained that Its


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it's so, so very much remained such, at least up to FNV


[09-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, Vault Tec never meant to save anyone


[09-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
again, Dead Money. It's the harshest low-key criticism of capitalist society I've ever seen in the game.


[09-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and it's never overt.


[09-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the shit early 00s Fallout movie planned, the big twist was that Vault Tec launched the first nukes


[09-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To make sure the experiments could start


[09-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek technology, but nobody using it to end hunger.


[09-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The discussion about Star Trek vs Wars earlier: as someone who was never into either particularly I always kinda felt the later was basically "wizards in space" and the former wasn't


[09-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
No Star Trek has wizards, but to reduce it to that is missing the point.


[09-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek is scientists fighting wizards.


[09-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Midicholorian is still canon right? Like even in the sequel trilogy?


[09-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you figure out how the magic works so you can destroy it.


[09-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is like, shooting Jedis with anti-force guns in Star Wars


[09-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in Star Trek? It'd be their first move.


[09-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Janeway vs. Kylo would be over in a minute.


[09-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
7 of 9 would detect a surge in the something something when Kylo uses the force on Voyager's weapons


[09-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
soon enuff his personal fighter would be imploded by inverting his force powers.


[09-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes Midichlorians are canon.


[09-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars' thing is the entire structure is "don't question the magic"


[09-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't question *anything* in fact.


[09-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Honahue#0656
Trek magic is physics we haven't figured out yet, the Force is regular Gandalf magic


[09-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Opponent#3498
you don't even need to understand things to counter them. A grenade launcher with a velocity fuse. Jedi, solved.


[09-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, frequently in Star Trek, the heros don't know everything, but they know enuff to get by


[09-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Honahue#0656
Taichi that thing with the force


[09-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They take every advantage they get.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point is to show a society that's advanced to where most people are all about reason, and their enlightened nature makes them win.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think a Star Wars movie will be made again for a long, long time.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can only hope.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
hahaha


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
no


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
Disney will keep pumping them out


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be a false hope.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Honahue#0656
though The Mandalorina was actually good


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars is more popular than ever.


[09-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney cares more about Marvel movies


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They do better and are more culturally relevant


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
they care about money and both make a billion at the box office


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll just farm out the Star Wars movies, Its.


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars is a safe moneymaker


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
even when it flops.


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
only Solo flopped anyway


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sells tons of merch too


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
Skywalker wasn't popular but it still made 1bil


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hasbro fucked over Disney badly until recently.


[09-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
and made me like Last Jedi even more


[09-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hey guys let's release the merch for this movie six months in advance"


[09-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I want my Gray Jedi movie dammit


[09-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
none of this nonsense.


[09-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
cause Last Jedi basically said that you control the Star Wars universe it's yours and Skywalker was Disney walking that back so hard it was hilarious


[09-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yes.


[09-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
Grey force users.


[09-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
yes. All of it.


[09-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We almost had a Boba Fett movie


[09-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He had what, ten lines ever


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the epitome of 00s fandom shit


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Honahue#0656
the Mandalorian is the best version of a Boba Fett movie


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had games tho


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
really good ones


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a cowboy with a jetpakk Its


[09-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
he can be the worst character ever and it'll be good.


[09-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
related, I liked The Old Republic partly because of no 'good vs evil' drama. It's probably a good thing that project went it's own way.


[09-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still can't believe that they made two seasons of a Star Wars parody series with Seth Green, basically PG Robot Chicken Star Wars prior to the Disney purchase


[09-Feb-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And will never release it fully, ever


[09-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482202-biden-says-buttigieg-is-not-barack-obama-on-nh-campaign-trail

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Biden says Buttigieg is 'not a Barack Obama' on NH campaign trail
Former Vice President Joe Biden went on the offensive against former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, telling supporters in New Hampshire that he is "not a Barack Obama.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_012920gn30_lead_0.jpg


[09-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Desperation.


[09-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Honahue#0656
it's really bad for Disney that they did walk back everything about The Last Jedi cause part of the point was that the galaxy was fucked not because of space wizards but because of military industrial complex, by keeping the conflict a matter of space wizards now that they've finally defeated Palp and restored balance the Galaxy is at peace whereas if they'd let the Last Jedi stand it doesn't matter how many Sith Lords you kill there will always be conflict


[09-Feb-20 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
it's how you do Superman conflicts, you can't out punch Superman but Supeman can't punch structural problems away


[09-Feb-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it really went into grimderp territory _fast_.


[09-Feb-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
but I guess that sells.


[09-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make a sequel to the PS4 Spiderman game


[09-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Honahue#0656
it protects their IP, the Last Jedi almost told the audience to write fanfiction


[09-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the fanfiction would probably be better


[09-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
heck the sw novels from the 90s were better


[09-Feb-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Rey is a nobody, thus anyone can be crazy powerful force user, the movie ends with the force using slave kid with a rebel ring


[09-Feb-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
till Skywalker undid everything


[09-Feb-20 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
tbf SW expanded universe was fanfiction and sometimes just as bad quality, sometimes good too though


[09-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'd still take it over this empty trilogy


[09-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
if Disney had come out with a TTRPG for Star Wars after the Last Jedi they'd have had some good sales I think


[09-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
but Disney wants to cultivate a curative fandom over transformative cause it means they control the IP more strongly


[09-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney ruined Sora being in Smash and Mickey Mouse being a relevant game character


[09-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo _asked_ Disney to put Sora in Smash and Disney said no


[09-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney ruined the entire edgy angle the people behind Epic Mickey wanted


[09-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
'edgy angle'. Heh.


[09-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
while I don't know the context I don't think it's a bad thing :D


[09-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well Epic Micky could've been the next American Mcgee Alice


[09-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it went from that to


[09-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
a slightly darker Banjo Kazooie


[09-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Well if Alice made sense in context, this idea doesn't seem to.


[09-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
for example the enemies originally were going to look like this
https://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/horrormickey_606.jpg
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/epicmickey/images/6/69/Unused_Beetleworx_6.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110809155635

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[09-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
in the final game it became these guys
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/epicmickey/images/d/db/Spatter_image.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091224034358

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[09-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the alpha and beta version of the game looked like something out Macgee's Alice. There was also some Oddworld and System Shock influence too.
http://www.wiitalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/phantom-blot-epic-mickey-disney-videogame-wii.jpg
https://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sea_transport.jpg
https://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/castle_side02.jpg

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https://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/castle_side02.jpg


[09-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its a shame we never got this game. Though the final product is still fun.


[09-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm looking at this and 'but why though' intensifies.


[09-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't matter much though I suppose.


[09-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well you see the premise was that mickey ends up in a world that's a wastleland desolate version of disenyworld/land where old forgotten attractions and characters have been left behind.


[09-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
thus it's this hostile world that is similar to the world that mickey knew but warped and twisted in various ways.


[09-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
those cyborg monsters were various Disney park attractions fused together and given life.


[09-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
obviously the final game's plot is a bit different.


[09-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329129049463062529/629093192670773258/unknown.png
at one point in the game's development darkwing duck was even going to be a npc in it.

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[09-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
do you think the real reason why bernie is so scary to the establishment is because he has no skeletons in his closet for them to exploit?


[09-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://i.imgur.com/JCsyjM8.jpg
but yeah the game went through many, many changes over the course of its development.

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[09-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, I thought caesar specifically wanted to create something better than the NCR by having them clash with the legion because he saw the same problems in the NCR that were in pre-war america


[09-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
yyeah. Except there was no 'what next' plan.


[09-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
there was a society designed from the ground up for a specific purpose. Conquest.


[09-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Opponent#3498
no flexibility whatsoever.


[09-Feb-20 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, a few of the mandalorian episodes had pacing problems, but the finale was amazing, and the problems outweigh the positives


[09-Feb-20 06:42 AM] Opponent#3498
his goal as stated was literally 'defeat NCR in the field through any means, take the territory (what remains usable anyway), ???, profit'


[09-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
kinda feels like there shouldn't have been a choice to join the legion though


[09-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
at most, there should've been different choices on how to handle defeating them


[09-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
like genocide, appeasement (would obviously fail), etc


[09-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they had great plans for fallout new vegas but bethesda screwed them over pretty much.


[09-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much that.


[09-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Opponent#3498
while aiding them as a merc could still be a viable option (Ceasar wasn't entirely blind to his faults, unlike the Enclave of Fallout 2), there could be so, so much more to that and other things.


[09-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they even had plans for a post hoover dam continuation dlc like fallout 3 did for it's main story. the dlc would reflect whicever faction won and it would actually have you witness and interact with the consequences instead of it being a slide.


[09-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
bethesda canceled that dlc before it got annonced.


[09-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/jordan-peterson-drug-addiction-benzo-valium-xanex-russia-mikhaila-a9324871.html

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Jordan Peterson suffers year of 'absolute hell' and is forced to withd...
Controversial psychologist's daughter says his efforts to come off drug left him in 'unbearable discomfort'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/02/20/13/jordan-peterson.jpg


[09-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
I was wondering wtf happened to peterson


[09-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
he just kinda disappeared


[09-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
that zizek debate must've fucked him up hard


[09-Feb-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
> The controversial academic had been consuming the drug for years to alleviate persistent anxiety in the wake of a severe autoimmune reaction to food.


[09-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yet that qoute contridicts the one above it where it says he was taking it due to his wife having cancer


[09-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so. which is it?


[09-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[09-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Zizek reasoned him so hard he had to get high as shit?


[09-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[09-Feb-20 08:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_renames channel to #videogames-&-lefty-memes_


[09-Feb-20 08:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The other server I hang out in ended up becoming T_D Live on Ice so...I'll take it


[09-Feb-20 08:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Watching them all :nut: and post awoo memes during the SOTU was physically painful


[09-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ech


[09-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/health/cdc-coronavirus-china.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/health/cdc-coronavirus-china.html
C.D.C. and W.H.O. Offers to Help China Have Been Ignored for Weeks
Privately, Chinese doctors say they need outside expertise. But Beijing, without saying why, has shown no interest so far.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/07/science/07VIRUS-TEAM01/07VIRUS-TEAM01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/02/07/im-the-sheriff-who-are-you-mike-bouchard-pulls-over-man-posing-as-a-cop/

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‘I’m the sheriff. Who are you?’: Mike Bouchard pulls over man posing a...
Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard had just gotten out of a meeting and was in a suit and tie driving down M-59 near Telegraph Road when he saw what looked like a police SUV.
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[09-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People in the comments going full "sovereign citizen"


[09-Feb-20 08:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MikevWUSA/status/1226253885716803585?s=20

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White nationalists shouting “RECLAIM AMERICA” through my neighborhood.
This isn’t Charlottesville.
This is Washington, DC.

The group is called Patriot Front, and they’re marching near Union Station
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[09-Feb-20 08:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/racially-motivated-violent-extremism-isis-national-threat-priority-fbi-director-christopher-wray

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Racially-motivated violent extremists elevated to "national threat pri...
FBI director says the threat posed by domestic extremists is "on the same footing" as threats posed by foreign terrorist organizations like ISIS and its sympathizers.
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/08/12/2f06599e-a027-44a9-99ea-f0d30debdfe7/thumbnail/1200x630/ce1fd416bc6b172c807ae0202c55b877/charlottesville-getty-830767394.jpg


[09-Feb-20 09:23 AM] Midknight#9798
i'd say they're more dangerous tho. ISIS, etc, have just a bit more water they have to cross to do anything untoward here


[09-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Watching through the last dem debate in chunks


[09-Feb-20 09:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof at Biden


[09-Feb-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lots of "I'm gonna lose in New Hampshire, but I've got electability!"


[09-Feb-20 09:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Feb-20 09:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how can people be safe if insurance companies arent stealing their money and running?


[09-Feb-20 09:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd put it an "non-soluble fibre" in the ingredients


[09-Feb-20 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/08/politics/iowa-caucuses-results-democrat-campaigns-irregularity-claims/index.html

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Buttigieg, Sanders and Warren campaigns submit caucus irregularity cla...
The presidential campaigns for Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have submitted their respective evidence of inconsistencies from the Iowa caucuses count to the Iowa Democratic Party ahead of a noon Central time deadline, the Iowa Democratic Party communications...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200207211722-democratas-fiasco-iowa-buttigieg-bernie-sanders-candidatos-pkg-gustavo-valdes-dusa-00001302-super-tease.jpg


[09-Feb-20 12:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-military-drone-nazis-brandon-bryant-a9324011.html

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Former US drone operator says American military is 'worse than the Naz...
‘That image on the screen is still in my head. Whenever I think about it, it still hurts me’, Brandon Bryant says
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[09-Feb-20 12:28 PM] ononim#8141
```Brandon Bryant was enlisted in the US Air Force for six years. During his time with the military, he operated Predator drones, remotely firing missiles at targets more than 7,000 miles away from the small room containing his workspace near Las Vegas, Nevada.

Mr Bryant says he reached his breaking point with the US military after killing a child in Afghanistan that his superiors told him was “a dog.” Mr Bryant recalls the moment: After firing a Hellfire missile at a building containing his target, he saw a child exit the building just as the missile struck. When he alerted his superiors about the situation after reviewing the tape, he was told “it was a f***ing dog, drop it.”

Following that incident, Mr Bryant quit the military and began speaking out against the drone program.```


[09-Feb-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is fucked


[09-Feb-20 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/18/buttigieg-hires-former-goldman-sachs-executive-as-policy-director.html

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Pete Buttigieg hires former Goldman Sachs executive as national policy...
Sonal Shah worked at Goldman Sachs from 2004 to 2007 as a vice president, according to her LinkedIn page. She then worked for Google as its head of global development initiatives from 2007 to 2009.
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[09-Feb-20 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
can pete get any more cartoon villainy


[09-Feb-20 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, the dnc is trying to replace trump with democrat trump


[09-Feb-20 02:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[09-Feb-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's what we need, trump level evil from a non dementia riddled brain


[09-Feb-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
```I was wondering wtf happened to peterson
he just kinda disappeared```


[09-Feb-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
he went into drug rehab


[09-Feb-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
so pretty much did what he preached. Self-improvement over improving the world


[09-Feb-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
commendable, all things considered.


[09-Feb-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah right the article references that.


[09-Feb-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```‘That image on the screen is still in my head. Whenever I think about it, it still hurts me’, Brandon Bryant says```


[09-Feb-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
you get payed well for absolute safety of sitting an ocean away from the frontlines shooting people


[09-Feb-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
at least be fucking honest to yourself, many would love to have your job


[09-Feb-20 02:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon le underseller bread time


[09-Feb-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482197-group-of-gop-senators-tried-to-stop-trump-from-sondland-ouster-report

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Group of GOP senators tried to stop Trump from Sondland ouster: report
A group of Republican senators attempted to stop President Trump from ousting U.S. Ambassador to the E.U.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sondlandgordon_112019gn8_lead.jpg


[09-Feb-20 03:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was quitting anyway


[09-Feb-20 03:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But Trump's gotta have the last word


[09-Feb-20 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't matter, though


[09-Feb-20 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People that voted for Trump don't read any publications or read any channels where news of this appears


[09-Feb-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the facebook hell, you're only made aware of what reinforces what you already believe


[09-Feb-20 03:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Zuckerberg should be put up against a wall and shot along with all the other FB execs, they knew exactly what they were doing but cared about ad money more than anything else


[09-Feb-20 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Zuck is the fall guy, but he's still a profoundly evil character


[09-Feb-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the key is to round up the board of directors and their investors


[09-Feb-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and all the executives below them


[09-Feb-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
lol https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/02/republicans-add-birth-certificate-requirement-to-ohio-democratic-bill-requiring-presidential-candidates-to-share-tax-returns.html

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Republicans add birth certificate requirement to Ohio Democratic bill ...
A long-shot Democratic bill requiring presidential candidates to provide five years of tax returns took a strange turn this week, after Republican state lawmakers amended it to require presidential candidates submit their birth certificates as well.
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[09-Feb-20 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wow


[09-Feb-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/482214-sanders-obviously-i-am-not-a-communist-but-maybe-trump-doesnt-know

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Sanders: 'Obviously I am not a communist,' but maybe Trump 'doesn't kn...
Sen.
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[09-Feb-20 05:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw maybe communism and being a communist will be fully recuperated into the American psyche in my time


[09-Feb-20 05:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsiMPRcTJwA

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Anthem of an Anarcho-Syndicalist America
Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Robykyun
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[09-Feb-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/legislature/gop-dominated-house-bars-tribal-ids-for-voter-registration/article_dd9759d1-f1f0-54b7-9559-b5a559a4d8ee.html

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GOP-dominated House bars tribal IDs for voter registration
PIERRE | South Dakota Democrats called foul on Friday after the Republican-dominated House shot down their efforts to allow Native Americans to use their tribal IDs to register to vote.
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[09-Feb-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
>     Rep. Shawn Bordeaux, a Mission Democrat who is a member of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe, said tribes in the state have improved the quality of their IDs in recent years. They now include addresses, holographics and other security measures. They are recognized by federal agencies and can be used to take flights.


[09-Feb-20 06:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/qbv9j0o3yrf41.jpg

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[09-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://youtu.be/SY6n6kDdpME

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Man PLOWS Van Into Republican Voter Tent In Florida, Civil War 2 Close...
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[09-Feb-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Tim DESTROYS facts and logic


[09-Feb-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Horse PLOWS gigantic horsecock in my ass


[09-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:raep:


[09-Feb-20 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/482211-buttigieg-biden-is-right-that-im-no-barack-obama-but-neither-is-he

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Buttigieg: Biden is right that I'm no Barack Obama, but 'neither is he...
Pete Buttigieg responded on Sunday to an attack ad from fellow 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden comparing the former vice president's record to Buttigieg’s, saying neither he nor Biden were comparable to former President Obama
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/buttigiegbiden.jpg


[09-Feb-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/man-arrested-white-house-knife-threat-trump-2020-2


[09-Feb-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... why would you give the secret service advanced notice?


[09-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
for publicity?


[09-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
we've read about him in the news, so that goal is checked.


[09-Feb-20 07:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in Ireland: https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1226555908530065412

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Ireland: the counting of the votes in the constituency of Dublin Finegal—electing 5/160 MPs to the national parliament—has been delayed, as there has been a confusion over two Smiths, two O'Brien's, a Reilly and an O'Reilly appearing on the same ballot.

#GE2020 #Ireland
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[09-Feb-20 07:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1226280559376314374?s=20

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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1226280559376314374?s=20
Ireland: According to the Ipsos MRBI exit poll for today's national parliament election, the left-wing Sinn Féin (SF-LEFT) received 31.8% of first preference votes amongst 18-24-year-olds, more than the centre-right Fine Gael (FG-EPP) and Fianna Fáil (FF-RE) combined. #GE2020
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[09-Feb-20 07:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1226515977250181122?s=20

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Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly)
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1226515977250181122?s=20
With 96% of #GE2020 votes tallied nationwide…

SF 24.1%
FF 22.2%
FG 22.1%
Greens 7.4%
Labour 4.1%
SD 3.0%
SolPBP 2.8%
Other parties 3.3%
Inds 12.1%

@virginmedianews #election2020
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[09-Feb-20 08:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> confusion over two Smiths, two O'Brien's, a Reilly and an O'Reilly appearing on the same ballot.
Everyone is the same person.


[09-Feb-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/482079-buttigieg-campaign-mocked-for-adding-applause-to-cnn-town-hall-clip

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Buttigieg campaign mocked for adding applause to CNN town hall clip
Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg's campaign was mocked Friday for editing a clip from a CNN town hall that included inserting fake applause after a remark made by the 38-year-old presidential candidate.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/buttigiegpete_020220gn6_lead.jpg


[09-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it's looking like we won't get corrected Iowa results until this time *tomorrow* at the very earliest.


[09-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
We could see a situation where it took a *full week* to get results.


[09-Feb-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vd4xbg7adwf41.jpg

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[09-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Kid has lemonade stand to raise money for class mate with cancer"


[09-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When will we have someone who points out that this story is awful and the exact opposite of heart warming


[09-Feb-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's chilling. Things are so bad a kid has to resort to grubbing for $0.25 to help their friend.


[09-Feb-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Epitome of heartwarming! Florida miner's son takes over his shift to pay for his father's injuries!"


[09-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our culture does know how to tell those stories, but it tends to frame everything in Great Leader theory instead of Marxist theory.


[09-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, if you want to change society, make Star Wars Marxist.


[09-Feb-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell the story of how Luke died, but some guy the Empire shafted a thousand lightyears away succeeded without the force.


[09-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
would be fun, to trigger literally everyone, but no sane business person would go for it


[09-Feb-20 09:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking the other night driving home from work I was listening to NPR and they were doing a bit about headlines from the past week for one of their media ghoul news game things. One was about how a kid made keychains for five dollars a pop to write a check to the school to payoff lunch debt for everyone and then some. Someone on the panel at least had the good since to point out he shouldn't even have to do that in a functional world because lunch debt would not - or should not - exist. So it's on the air in some circles. But when it comes to local news, then since all of it is owned by Sinclaire there is basically no incentive to care, they gotta push that right wing self reliance thing


[09-Feb-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pull yourself up by your bootstraps even if it;s physically impossible to do so


[09-Feb-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good work ethic is destroyinng your body for the sake of the CEO!


[09-Feb-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was raised to beleive that work ethic is important but all i have regarding work ethic is many questions regarding it;s effectiveness and pay off...


[09-Feb-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again it might help if people were more clear on what the fuck work ethic is and not using it to justify killing yourself for the sake of a job and working sick


[09-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
A good work ethic might get you paid 30% more, in a decent industry.


[09-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
However


[09-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
cutting corners can get you paid twice as much per time.


[09-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Comics is the big example I'm thinking of


[09-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jack Kirby was very well-paid because he was amazing


[09-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
but there was this guy who did inking of his art who would literally remove half the characters, but was known for meeting any and all deadlines


[09-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
the two *came as a pair*


[09-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, look at IDW


[09-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most MLP comics it puts out are utter garbage


[09-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't pay to actually put in more effort


[09-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
clipart from google for cutie marks, trace the show a bit, do everything without layers, call it good.


[09-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, here's the problem in most modern industry, @prism stryder(intexda)


[09-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The employers now can figure out how much work they need


[09-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they can make everything purely hourly, no benefits


[09-Feb-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of individual employees being stretched as needed


[09-Feb-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can just schedule/hire a ton of people and put them when needed


[09-Feb-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
in this way, they effectively take away a worker's ability to do less work


[09-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
For the 2 hours this particular week you're on the clokk, you hav to get everything done, because they know you can, etc.


[09-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you don't get paid any more for it.


[09-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the new economy, not just the gig economy, but employers with automated scheduling that continually reassigns workers who are always on-call.


[09-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It givs them massive, massive leverage.


[09-Feb-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s essentially fucked everything over that isnt a contractor job... and evenn then


[09-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what prompted Cali's new law.


[09-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one everyone's freaking out over because it's hugely broad and will probably blow up from massive oversights.


[09-Feb-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cali's new law?


[09-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forcing employers to not classify people as independent contractors.


[09-Feb-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[09-Feb-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc7news.com/politics/new-california-laws-in-2020/5750088/

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New California laws 2020: Minimum wage, power outages, more rules chan...
A mix of new laws take effect on January 1, 2020 in California. They include added protections to online privacy, a reclassification of independent contractors, statewide rent control and more freedom for your hairstyle at work.
https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/5760508_121619-kgo-newlaws-2020.jpg?w=1600


[09-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/AB5-to-ease-caps-for-writers-photographers-more-15036406.php

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AB5 may ease caps for writers, photographers; more gig-law changes com...
The author of AB5, California’s new gig-work law, said Thursday she’ll amend it to remove some restrictions on freelance journalists and photographers, and is eyeing further changes for musicians, small businesses and others.
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/10/35/02/18993292/5/rawImage.jpg


[09-Feb-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh there's logic to it


[09-Feb-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you're paying a set amount for productive time


[09-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
it may not be ideal, but that's literally what you're paying for, or what you want to be paying for to be more specific


[09-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is employees as parts in the machine hav wear


[09-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
them wearing it in normal conditions is an externality that then you feel in profits


[09-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
because they become less productive and are hard to replace


[09-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
but by having more employees that are each less of the pie, and can be easily replaced by each other and new additions, it removes the feeling of that externality.


[09-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
and just like part of the machine they _are_ replaceable


[09-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
it sucks like hell, but them's the truth.


[09-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
you're worth 10% of what you make your employer. Nothing more.


[09-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, it's now in the businesses' interests to grind people to death for profit.


[09-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad, basic economics tells us we need to bring down the law like a sakk of hammers on the bosses.


[09-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
To not do so would endanger society.


[09-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least make it run non-optimally.


[09-Feb-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
employees being expendable makes the economy very short lived as no one is left to circulate money into it


[09-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
this is bad for society, not nessesarily for businesses.


[09-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Opponent#3498
once they run out of people here, they can import more from overseas.


[09-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Opponent#3498
and with populations ever rising, it's not that much of a problem


[09-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
birth rates are plummeting


[09-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s no one to replace the "expendables"


[09-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Immigrants, but Republicans keep them out.


[09-Feb-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what the fuck is outsourcing going to do for brick and mortar retail
?


[09-Feb-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and fast food


[09-Feb-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
automation is one thing but that shit shuts the fuck down witohut customers as well


[09-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now they're going with hiring teens plus gig economy


[09-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
uber eats to deliver etc.


[09-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
_domestic_ birth rates are plummeting. And that's hardly relevant, corporations are by nature international.


[09-Feb-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah and then birth rate sstart plummeting internationally when those countries become expendable


[09-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but it's way away and so not a problem for current or tommorow's execs


[09-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
planet might be dead in a decade, but the quarterly report is in a month.


[09-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
the priorities are clear.


[09-Feb-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
round up the executives, investors, and directors and put thme against the wall


[09-Feb-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
figuratively or literally, thems the priorities right now


[09-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that seems to be the only positive way forward.


[09-Feb-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be willing to go figurative, but they;re good at weaslinng out of that so itg might have to be literal


[09-Feb-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[09-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fpbp


[09-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/us/politics/iowa-caucuses-democrats.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/us/politics/iowa-caucuses-democrats.html
Iowa Democrats Won’t Correct Errors on Caucus Tally Sheets, Emails Sho...
The worksheets could not be changed even if they contained mistakes, according to the lawyer for the state party, because they were a legal record and altering them would be a crime.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/09/us/politics/09iowa/09iowa-facebookJumbo.jpg


[09-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what they're saying is


[09-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
the handwritten results that contain blatant errors


[09-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
hav to be taken verbatim


[09-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
they cannot even like, make a copy that has corrected errors


[09-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is fukking lawyerism at its worst


[09-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
NO NO IT'D BE FRAUD TO CORRECT THE FRAUD


[09-Feb-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
> The lawyer said correcting the math would introduce “personal opinion” into the official record of results.

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[09-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take these fukkers to court and grill their asses into the dust.

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[09-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hope Bernie BURNS the IDP to the ground


[09-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
literally EVERYONE in it should never be allowed to be part of any party again


[10-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fire Perez.


[10-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perez didn't do this


[10-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's part of the DNC, not IDP


[10-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the IDP's fukking stance is that if a caucus committed fraud to say it is sending X SDEs to Pete, when he didn't deserve them from the votes


[10-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it would be against the law to send any other amount of SDEs to Pete from that caucus.


[10-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You take this before a judge and they will BURY YOU.


[10-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't just get to reinforce someone else's fukking fraud with some technicality.


[10-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is directly akin to saying "yeah the accountant clearly cooked the books, but books are books, can't legally change them, so we hav to keep the earnings estimates the same"


[10-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking how much you think a judge is gonna buy a company saying that?


[10-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Judges are super afraid of touching election shit


[10-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'd destroy a company that did this but related to an election ehhh


[10-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Bush v. Gore_ was a mistake in multiple ways.


[10-Feb-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-in-chaos-after-primaries-require-basic-math

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Democrats In Chaos After Being Forced To Do Math For First Time
IOWA—The Democratic primaries have broken down into chaos after the party encountered its archnemesis head-on for the first time: basic math.While progressives were optimistic going into the primaries, they'd forgotten that numbers, counting, and addition would be required."No on...
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[10-Feb-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Feb-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
"Stalin's affection shines upon the future of our children"


[10-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[10-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok coomer


[10-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/eDyyVjg

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QUICK
https://i.imgur.com/3Tgln16h.jpg


[10-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/I8kQE7q.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
I don't like crossposting, but does breaking bad ever address the issue of how shitty it is you have to turn to cooking meth to afford medical bills?


[10-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not explicitly, no


[10-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
> Don’t forget that at the start he had an old friend offering him a well paying job with medical benefits. It was always about pride


[10-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's pretty heavily implied by how the guy cooks meth to afford medical bills, but I don't recall a straight up sentence about it


[10-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
idk much about breaking bad, only seen clips and a few scenes


[10-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/pu68bZF

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Truly terrifying
https://i.imgur.com/gq5Kjqfh.jpg


[10-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
apparently imgur's been getting spicy since the last time I browsed it


[10-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People have been reacting to how people react to Bernie's "radical" proposals for a while now


[10-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
imgur has more zoomers now and less boomers


[10-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
```the handwritten results that contain blatant errors
hav to be taken verbatim```


[10-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
see this is what I was talking about  before.


[10-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
no matter what happens, they will make the numbers stand.


[10-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yes the court might overrule it later. Keyword - _later_


[10-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and you best believe if he gets nominated with faulty numbers, they'll stay just long enough for the elections to go through


[10-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
or to start at least


[10-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
oh, iowa's FINALLY at 100% reporting


[10-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
pet rattigieg got 13 delegates, bernie got 12, warren got 8, and biden got 6


[10-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
huh, bill weld got 1 delegate on the republican side


[10-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know I think the best thing for news outlets to do is to just not declare a winner.


[10-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYT doesn't seem eager to declare.


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
they're gonna declare rattigieg


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
100%


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
they will not tolerate a bernie win


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure about that.


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYT and AP smell a rat


[10-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
and not declaring a winner would basically be the same as a bernie win


[10-Feb-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but also declaring a winner would make their integrity and accuracy look weak and inaccurate


[10-Feb-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would make people distrust them more for reporting false narratives


[10-Feb-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cnn and msnbc meanwhile will revel in this and shout it from the rooftops because those stations are a goddamned mess with nothing to lose by reporting inaccurate news


[10-Feb-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
AP meanwhile sells it;s articles to other news sources, which means those sites that arent willing to write their own news, may also be unable to declare a winner


[10-Feb-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6da5dfa358bbc32f9ecbe66024bf7644

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US ambassador to Israel warns against West Bank annexation
JERUSALEM (AP) — The U.S. ambassador to Israel has cautioned Israel against “unilateral action” in annexing West Bank settlements, warning that such a move could endanger the Trump...
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[10-Feb-20 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.france24.com/en/20200209-brazil-s-military-elite-sees-france-as-country-s-biggest-threat-leaked-report-reveals

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Brazil's military elite sees France as country's biggest threat, leake...
France is expected to be Brazil's biggest military threat over the next 20 years and could invade the Amazon in 2035, according to a secret report published by Brazilian media on Friday. Although the…
https://s.france24.com/media/display/a9ff27e4-4b54-11ea-95b7-005056a98db9/w:1240/p:16x9/000_1OS38Z.jpg


[10-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
:yay:


[10-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
you know that bolsanaro would burn the amazon out of pure spite if an international coalition invaded


[10-Feb-20 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Wah wah Macron is still being mean to me and hasn't apologized for his Amazon comments"


[10-Feb-20 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil is having quite a normal one, if anyone's asking, thanks


[10-Feb-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[10-Feb-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
```could invade the Amazon in 2035```


[10-Feb-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
:wow:


[10-Feb-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reeks of the same stupidity as "freedom fries"


[10-Feb-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Come let us sell you our molecules of freedom!"


[10-Feb-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/29/energy-department-molecules-freedom-fossil-fuel-rebranding

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US energy department rebrands fossil fuels as 'molecules of freedom'
Press release from department said increasing export capacity is ‘critical to spreading freedom gas throughout the world’
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[10-Feb-20 01:43 AM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[10-Feb-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nevada-dems-will-use-ipad-program-to-calculate-caucus-results-2020-2

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Nevada Democrats will use an iPad program to avoid an Iowa-like disast...
Plans for the Nevada caucus on February 22 had to be altered quickly after the chaotic situation with Iowa's caucus.
https://i.insider.com/5e406adae35bab2f22532a53?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
ffs


[10-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
why do people have such a hard-on for easily subverted technology


[10-Feb-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
easier cheating?


[10-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
because techbros want an easy win.


[10-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that win being Major Pete.


[10-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
I think it's very obvious by now.


[10-Feb-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll lobby various apps, use their obvious faults to push the desired results, bury any objections in 'due process', and simply win.


[10-Feb-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
Iova will repeat, one way or another.


[10-Feb-20 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd expect Bernie to do better more smoothly in regards to regular primary states


[10-Feb-20 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Caucuses have just proven themselves obsolete


[10-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know why this system exists tbh.


[10-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean I know where it came from


[10-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but I don't know why it's _still here_ in 2020


[10-Feb-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the caucus was made originally as the sole electoral process for a president and his vice


[10-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
because there hasn't been a strong political will to change anything in the US for decades


[10-Feb-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it just makes a convenient cheating filter for the party and it;s undesirables


[10-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/675171207548502027/rif-1581043742950.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
is shadow bernie stalin


[10-Feb-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i especially like the special world state where bernie has to unlock a key door somewhere in alabama


[10-Feb-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's gonna need yoshi for that one


[10-Feb-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The worst is Florida


[10-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was originally called the Water Temple.


[10-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the water is no longer the most dangerous part.


[10-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/OswaldHurlem/status/1225292303553593344

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oswald (@OswaldHurlem)
https://twitter.com/OswaldHurlem/status/1225292303553593344
The DNC establishment has prepared 49 more unique devilish twists for Bernie, one for each state. There's gonna be an underwater state, a spikey pit state, a state where Shadow Bernie chases him,
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[10-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
found the source


[10-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
> The factory state has the best music


[10-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
I'm glad I found the source


[10-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Bernie / Shadow Bernie 2020


[10-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_oneself_up_by_one%27s_bootstraps

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[10-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
huh, it used to mean "someone is attempting or has claimed some ludicrously far-fetched or impossible task"


[10-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
that's pretty much what it means in current use as well :D


[10-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
not impossible, but only just.


[10-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason it's used in an actual "thing you can do" sense is because Boomers are racist shitheads.


[10-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, moving the goalposts to make it so a liberal's statement that it's nearly impossible now means it's just exactly what's expected of people.


[10-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
uh excuse me weren't boomers the generation that fought for civil rights?


[10-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time of the early 60s, most Boomers couldn't vote


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
all couldn't vote


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the voting age was 21


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then who was doing all the protesting?


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Boomers started being born in 1945


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The protesting was primarily done by the previous generation


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
who made up most of the march on washington?


[10-Feb-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Silents


[10-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers only started being able to vote in 1966, which was also shortly after they stopped being born.


[10-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
The Silents? weren't they the one's coin'd by Nixon?


[10-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were not politically powerful until the late 70s, and not in really full control until the 80s.


[10-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He referred to a "silent majority", he was not talking about the generation.


[10-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, many Boomers at the time took issue with Nixon, while many Silents did not.


[10-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he was more broadly saying that people as a whole were content outside of the radicals (the hippies, who were late boomers and early Gen X)


[10-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to understand is the Silents and Boomers approach issues very differently despite both being racist as shit.


[10-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Silents were very big on decorum, which meant that they couldn't tolerate racist actions when said actions stepped outside normal bounds.


[10-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when SCOTUS ruled in very clear logic that segregation was unconstitutional, the Silents felt an obligation to respect SCOTUS and follow thru.


[10-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what propelled Southern Democrats to actually allow civil rights to go thru.


[10-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers *grew up in* the turmoil of the South not wanting civil rights while Democrats passed laws protecting it anyways.


[10-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some of them, like Bernie, joined the protests while they were young, before they could even vote.


[10-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most white Boomers, however, just became bitter that things were changing in a way that didn't benefit them.


[10-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
may I ask the sources for the info?


[10-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's Bernie https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html

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Arrest photo of young activist Bernie Sanders emerges from Tribune arc...
A negative of a photo of Bernie Sanders' arrest in August 1963 was found in the Chicago Tribune's archives.
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[10-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having trouble finding a good source for the Silent/Boomer distinction date


[10-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden uses 1945, but I think most use 1946 actually


[10-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/03/here-is-when-each-generation-begins-and-ends-according-to-facts/359589/

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Here Is When Each Generation Begins and Ends, According to Facts
We can all agree that Millennials are the worst. But what is a Millennial? A fight between The New York Times and Slate inspired us to try to figure that out.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/static/a/theatlantic/img/lacroix-default-thumbnail.png


[10-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note this uses a different name for the Silents


[10-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Names are not agreed upon except Boomers and Gen X


[10-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
thanks. i'll give them a read sometime later.


[10-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for civil rights bills, here's the actual voting stuff https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409

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HR. 7152. PASSAGE. -- Senate Vote #409 -- Jun 19, 1964
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409/card


[10-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. "


[10-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz be of posting photo


[10-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@ShaunKing/you-dont-really-know-who-bernie-sanders-was-in-the-1960s-79628016125f

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You don’t really know who Bernie Sanders was in the 1960s.
I reject this idea that who Bernie Sanders was in the 1960s is irrelevant. Who you are and what you do, what you fought for, and who and…
https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*q1ZNaufen6RrBIXgN7DxTQ.png


[10-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx


[10-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-propose-sweeping-cuts-foreign-aid-safety-net-programs-latest-n1133211

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Trump to propose sweeping cuts to foreign aid, safety net programs in ...
Trump sought in his budget proposal last year to slash foreign aid but faced steep resistance from Congress and did not prevail.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_02/3176361/200108-donald-trump-cs-929a_a7de1d036ba0b5997334eebf9ef26444.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[10-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
second verse, same as the first


[10-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for Boomers and Nixon


[10-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2011/11/04/142016986/baby-boomers-remain-skeptical-of-the-establishment

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Baby Boomers Remain Skeptical Of Establishment
The baby boomer generation came into politics with a liberal challenge to the establishment, but that hasn't made it a reliably Democratic voting block. This middle-aged group is deeply dissatisfied with the economy and frustrated with the president.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/11/04/ap7209250153_wide-a31d2e6c6d7c4b3de9754b859d2f500bb5eb4393.jpg?s=1400


[10-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KytLO2WME
speaking of Bernie I wonder when a parody song will be made on this called "Bernie's got a gun."

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Aerosmith- Janie's got a gun (lyrics)
janie's got a gun lyrics
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[10-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that's right, in their youth, Boomers were actually somewhat liberal, tho not in a modern sense.


[10-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wanted businessmen to be presidents.


[10-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still do, but now they also want to end social security etc.


[10-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon was a brand of horrible that was very establishment, he presented a good face in public that Silents loved.


[10-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Republicans actually abandoned him after the smoking gun tape.


[10-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/


[10-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most important is the graph https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/atd-NIXON-IMPEACHMENT-1011-1.png?w=575

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[10-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers as can be clearly seen do not care about decorum.


[10-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They simply don't mind it if the president looks scummy as shit.


[10-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for SCOTUS in particular, https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-the-supreme-court-facing-a-legitimacy-crisis/

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Is The Supreme Court Facing A Legitimacy Crisis?
In his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday, Brett Kavanaugh dropped the demeanor of a neutral jurist and launched into a deeply partisan…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/GettyImages-984407858-1.png?w=575


[10-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/atd-supreme.court-1.0928.png?w=575

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[10-Feb-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
what happened in 2005


[10-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers got old.


[10-Feb-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
was there a specific case


[10-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it was a specific case.


[10-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in the early 2000s, Republicans went full bore on the Southern Strategy


[10-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Newt Gingrich began making new legislators in the party not talk to Democrats


[10-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Bush v. Gore


[10-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
...that's exactly where it starts


[10-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The little plateau is right after Bush v. Gore


[10-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The time when Scalia just plain handed things to Republicans.


[10-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shortly after, they also ruled that laws against gay sex were unconstitutional


[10-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In effect, SCOTUS was simultaneously making big leaps on civil rights issues while also ignoring basic logic to screw liberals over.


[10-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pissing both sides off while everything became hyperpartisan.


[10-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
All while Boomers were just getting to where they had no previous generation competitors and could perfect their grip on power.


[10-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gay marriage


[10-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Soon as that started being discussed as a constitutional thing, the supreme court started being in question


[10-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, that's part of what I'm saying. SCOTUS was bending over bakkwards for Republicans on many issues like corruption, but at the same time they were like "hold up a minute, we can't treat people as second-class citizens"


[10-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So both sides had things to be pissed off by, conservatives began viewing judicial review itself as a problem because it could actually enforce the constitution, while liberals began seeing that the rules truly were different by party.


[10-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what happens when you start pikking judges mostly based on policy issues instead of like, their actual ability to be objective and coherent.


[10-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scalia was a mistake.


[10-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
```Pissing both sides off while everything became hyperpartisan.```


[10-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
how is this a thing?


[10-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
I get that we live in a world that's not even remotely sane but damn


[10-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is like, once upon a time, each party would be something like 60-70% conservative, rest liberal, and their stances tended to vary on particular issues.


[10-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats pushed harder on civil rights, but Republicans usually didn't outright oppose


[10-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
under those conditions, SCOTUS pikks could be relatively moderate most of the time and be chosen by qualifications


[10-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now you've got Republicans entirely conservative, Democrats mostly liberal


[10-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
with a court that's a relic


[10-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
so each new justice becomes a chance to swing the liberal/conservative balance of the court, if only on specific issues


[10-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with a constant stream of 5-4 decisions where the swing vote justice was acting unexpectedly


[10-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like suddenly Republicans find out that Gorsuch is actually against the idea of tearing up treaties with natives. Wooops.


[10-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But meanwhile Democrats find out that Roberts is actually A-OK with tearing up the Voting Rights Act so Republicans can surgically suppress the blakk vote.


[10-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then Kavanaugh expresses doubts about a Southern state writing the law so that of 12 jurors, 4 blakk ones all saying that the guy's innocent and was framed by the police can just be ignored.


[10-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the court size is so small that a single vote matters, partisanship is messy, and partisan things are EXTREME now.


[10-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of some kind of reasoned arguments leading to what for sure is the right decision, both sides are basically flipping coins.


[10-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, I always knew the idea that american political system, dubbed one 'of stops and counterweights', supposedly as legitimate as it gets (if not for occasional hiccup), was too good to be true.


[10-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
but I never realised it was this fucking far away from it.


[10-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not 'well-designed'. It's a mess of 250 years of legislation and tradition.


[10-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what nation isn't a mess of legislation and tradition?


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traditional practice in legislatures is a problem.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
People eventually abuse or break it.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need the rules of how things operate written down.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
well... You know, pretty much the entire Europe has been rewritten in the last century or so.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
often several times and radically so.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's often a good idea to completely rewrite the legal code.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A growing mass of laws nobody can navigate is bad for society.


[10-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
Eurasia even...


[10-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Laws as they age also often move away from things like *mens rea*, looking at intent, to strict liability.


[10-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, over time the amendments state X thing with Y and Z is bad, instead of "don't try to knowingly do X"


[10-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But society changes, so Y and Z may change


[10-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with laws that are supposed to be against like, try to peg people for negligence, but in practice they're just ensnaring normal people who aren't causing problems.


[10-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
wasn't there a state that was putting all its legal code up on github


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds like something a microstate would do.


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
but if it was someone of a larger scale, that'd be cool.


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Multiple cities are doing that, not sure about states.


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem tho is federal law.


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/how-i-changed-the-law-with-a-github-pull-request/

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How I changed the law with a GitHub pull request
Washington DC has made GitHub the authoritative digital source for DC laws.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/3634380710_ed679cedaf_o-760x380.jpg


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It used to be really small, now it's not.


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, it was washington dc


[10-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
With both federal and state law, it's very easy to get tripped up on one or the other.


[10-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
States often never revise old laws


[10-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and federal law is gigantic now.


[10-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
weren't there legal concerns about using github for legal code


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were legal concerns about people putting up building codes tho.


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because like, some states hav a company do their building code.


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They say in the law "lookup this document"


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Said document costs $5000


[10-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, someone then goes in, posts the actual document out in the open, cause IT IS THE FUKKING LAW


[10-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way for states to profit off of real estate companies just looking up the law.


[10-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Late stage capitalism.


[10-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is, the law **cannot** be paywalled.


[10-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, the states say it can be.


[10-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Copyright is atrocious.


[10-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
paywalled law is full-stop hillarious.


[10-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
like, people who are willing to know the law and follow it and stay up to date have to _pay_ for it


[10-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
it's poetic.


[10-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Midknight#9798
"I'm sorry, officer. I don't have to comply with directions I never received. Piss off." Would probably go over really well.


[10-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be tho.


[10-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Midknight#9798
*~nod~*


[10-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole American approach to law is wrong.


[10-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least the modern one.


[10-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive writing laws without mens rea, then the police arresting people who don't know any better, only for judges to impose hefty fines.


[10-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all very, very wrong.


[10-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it all stems from the early 20th century.


[10-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legal reforms stopped happening.


[10-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything was just EMPOWER THE EXECUTIVE TO STOP THE PROBLEMS


[10-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
building codes behind pay walls and Home and Garden popularizing open concept floor plans because knocking down walls gets more male veiwers is going to leave a bunch of unstructurally sound houses in a few more years


[10-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And instead of busting monopolies and such, the executive just started stomping on the little people.


[10-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
While going out of control with surveillance.


[10-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/DeminimusO/status/1224818764035706880

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https://twitter.com/DeminimusO/status/1224818764035706880
@willmenaker @PeteButtigieg https://t.co/T2OsSCplVC
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Twitter


[10-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
rattigieg "winning" the 2020 iowa caucus


[10-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Macarou#9574
https://aeon.co/essays/philosophy-at-war-nationalism-and-logical-analysis?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Philosophy at war: nationalism and logical analysis – Alexander Klein ...
Should philosophy express the national character of a people? Bertrand Russell’s ‘scientific’ philosophy was a bulwark against nationalism
https://alpha.aeon.co/images/0ab948f3-0223-4144-afa7-d605c522e6a6/header_essay-gettyimages-515180094.jpg


[10-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/trump-senate-acquittal-impeachment.html

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By Sherrod Brown
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/trump-senate-acquittal-impeachment.html
Opinion | In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of Fe...
One journalist remarked to me, “How in the world can these senators walk around here upright when they have no backbone?”
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/05/opinion/05Brown/05Brown-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-Feb-20 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
> “How in the world can these senators walk around here upright when they have no backbone?”

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[10-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
wonders of modern robotics, clearly.


[10-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/26/how-the-obama-administrations-spygate-trumps-water/

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/26/how-the-obama-administrations-spygate-trumps-water/
How the Obama administration’s Spygate trumps Watergate
The Obama administration was not caught in a third-rate burglary but in a high-level scheme to weaponize both domestic and foreign intelligence instruments against a political opponent.
https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2019/11/26/Tyrrell_c0-426-1800-1475_s1770x1032.jpg?36a6ba77a86cd9e0c9a4a2cffaafcbe2391cdd5e


[10-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let's see, we've got a known incredibly biased news source, with an article from over 3 months ago, and its subject is about something a previous president did right after the current president was allowed to shit all over the idea of fair elections.


[10-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gee, I wonder if the purpose of this is to try to alter perceptions of problems and steer the narrative away from actually faulting the current president.


[10-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, it's about the Horowitz report


[10-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.lawfareblog.com/thoughts-horowitz-report-part-iii-fisa-findings

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Thoughts on the Horowitz Report, Part III: The FISA Findings
The inspector general’s findings on the Carter Page FISA applications are actually worse than the president’s defenders understand—precisely because Michael Horowitz did not find any kind of political conspiracy.
https://lawfare.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/staging/s3fs-public/8136629475_a0c6fae873_o.jpg


[10-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in short, the problem isn't that they don't like Trump


[10-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that Obama ordered them to pull strings


[10-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that it appears their standard MO is to continually bullshit the court and slowly amend things to the truth.


[10-Feb-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
how https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/02/09/brandon-man-detained-outside-white-house-with-knife-and-plan-to-assassinate-trump/

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Brandon man detained outside White House with knife and plan to ‘assas...
Roger Hedgpeth, 25, was arrested Saturday afternoon on a charge of making threats to do bodily harm, the Metropolitan Police Department said.
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[10-Feb-20 04:53 AM] illumnious#7938
the fuck that's going to happen

unless that Florida man is DIO who can stop time.


[10-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a publicity stunt.


[10-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
a random nobody who got into news more or less for free.


[10-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
he didn't even have to kill anyone to do it.


[10-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656

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[10-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, if they won in the film...


[10-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I still think Joker should've won best film


[10-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
we need to liberate the cows after all. give them moo rights


[10-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
lol


[10-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
tbh i haven't heard about parasite at all until tonight. was it even aired in major theaters?


[10-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/16/are-cows-better-represented-senate-than-people/


[10-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Honahue#0656
the only reason Joker should've won is for all the rage it would have caused if it had


[10-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a mediocre movie brought up by great acting and visuals and I doubt anyone would've cared much if it was Batman related


[10-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
*wasn't


[10-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Parasite was playing in major theaters but it didn't ahve a marketing budget


[10-Feb-20 11:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.businessinsider.com/anti-putin-blogger-imran-aliev-murdered-in-france-2020-2

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An anti-Putin blogger had his throat cut in a French hotel, and the ki...
Imran Aliev, 44, a Chechen blogger who opposed both Vladimir Putin and Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov, was found dead in Lille, France, last week.
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[10-Feb-20 11:02 AM] ononim#8141
>and Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov


[10-Feb-20 11:02 AM] ononim#8141
There's his mistake


[10-Feb-20 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-Feb-20 11:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly it feels like every candidate does that, including Bernie


[10-Feb-20 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have their go-to campaign line; Bernie has billionaires / 1% and health care, Biden has "experience" (half of which is "I worked with Obama to...), Yang jams his freedom dividend into every other sentence, Steyer goes on about blacks and beating Trump on the economy, etc.


[10-Feb-20 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
I thought bernie answered simple questions with simple answers though


[10-Feb-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess, but any answer always leads to billionaires


[10-Feb-20 11:36 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like damn stupid question at school, where the simple answer in a single sentence is not enough, expecting essay sized response.


[10-Feb-20 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God I hated essay questions


[10-Feb-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They were always either so damn simple to answer that you had to add filler to meat the requirements, or so complex you ended up struggling to fit the damn answer in properly without leaving important things out


[10-Feb-20 12:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1226683232378380289?s=19

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Jon Miller (@MillerStream)
https://twitter.com/MillerStream/status/1226683232378380289?s=19
A man named Bong Joon Ho wins #Oscar for best original screenplay over Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and 1917. 

Acceptance speech was: “GREAT HONOR. THANK YOU.” 

Then he proceeds to give the rest of his speech in Korean. 

These people are the destruction of America.
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[10-Feb-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how dare he speak foreignese!


[10-Feb-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh there's a part 2 that is in no way an attempt to hide the fact that he was talking about koreans...


[10-Feb-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/482035-senators-bruised-by-impeachment-hunt-for-deals

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Senators, bruised by impeachment, hunt for deals
Senators are scouring for bipartisan bills as they try to put the divisive impeachment fight behind them.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schumerchuck_mcconnellmitch_020620gn_bc_split_bipartisan.jpg


[10-Feb-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck, you have a shit ton of thme on mcconnell's desk


[10-Feb-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/676319873827078165/image0.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/482259-trump-to-request-6-percent-domestic-cuts-in-48-trillion-budget

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Trump to request 6 percent domestic cuts in $4.8 trillion budget
President Trump on Monday will request a 6 percent cut to nondefense spending as part of his $4.8 trillion budget proposal for 2021, breaking from a bipartisan spending agreement inked in August.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_trumpcoronavirusban_013120.jpg


[10-Feb-20 02:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ldyi42hx3yf41.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/482086-pittsburgh-area-judge-reassigned-after-allegedly-calling-juror-aunt-jemima

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Pittsburgh-area judge reassigned after allegedly calling juror 'Aunt J...
A judge in Pittsburgh has been temporarily taken off the bench after allegedly referring to a black female juror as "Aunt Jemima," according to a news reports.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_courtroom_122619istock.jpg


[10-Feb-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
I just realized


[10-Feb-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't linked this in a looooong time


[10-Feb-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1d7Llx4rm8

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Squallido Anal Smithee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1d7Llx4rm8
SUPER GAY PUTIN [original]
Get the Super Gay Putin T-Shirt, and more!
https://teespring.com/it/shop/super-gay-putin

Do your own remix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNc_IMsGoF8

Credits to:
http://www.youtube.com/user/viralcycle?feature=watch
For the Gangnam's dancers :)

путин гей
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[10-Feb-20 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if you watch it FSB agents gonna kill u with chem weapon


[10-Feb-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```There's his mistake```


[10-Feb-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
heh, yeah. Your moron-in-charge may talk the big boy talk about 'going after their families', but there are people who are legitimately willing and able to look up and put down those they consider undesirables. (and their families, naturally)


[10-Feb-20 03:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coffeyville-kansas-medical-debt-county-in-rural-kansas-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/

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"You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills": County in ru...
If two court hearings are missed on unpaid medical debt, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court.
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[10-Feb-20 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
How predictable


[10-Feb-20 03:43 PM] byte[]#2610
ProPublica: https://features.propublica.org/medical-debt/when-medical-debt-collectors-decide-who-gets-arrested-coffeyville-kansas/

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When Medical Debt Collectors Decide Who Gets Arrested
Welcome to Coffeyville, Kansas, where the judge has no law degree, debt collectors get a cut of the bail, and Americans are watching their lives — and liberty — disappear in the pursuit of medical debt collection.
https://assets.propublica.org/images/externals/20191016-coffeyville-lead-1200x630.jpg


[10-Feb-20 03:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are they'll still vote Trump anyway


[10-Feb-20 03:47 PM] Opponent#3498
number big life good. Just gotta wait for it a bit longer 😂


[10-Feb-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they will, anyone who wouldnt vote trump will be in prison for medical debt


[10-Feb-20 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I bet convicted felons can't vote in Kansas...


[10-Feb-20 03:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, can after discharge/end of sentence, better than nothing


[10-Feb-20 03:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1226630383422320641

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Marianne Williamson (@marwilliamson)
https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1226630383422320641
I haven’t endorsed anyone because there’s more than one good progressive and everyone has to vote their conscience. But I submit to my supporters that someone with no real agenda and no real vision for our country beyond a vague notion of inclusion is nothing but a corporate too...
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[10-Feb-20 03:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Warren is a fake progressive


[10-Feb-20 03:58 PM] byte[]#2610
There is only one progressive running this year


[10-Feb-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm gonna have to create a filter just for Bernie mails


[10-Feb-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Been getting 3 mails a days ever since I donated


[10-Feb-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess it's not just Trump thing. At least they don't backcharge you.


[10-Feb-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
...do they?


[10-Feb-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
```Casement said he did not consider the legality of his policies a problem. He placed some blame on the health care system. “What we have isn’t working,” he said. “As a lifelong Republican, I would probably be hung, but I think we need health care for everybody with some limits on what it’s going to cost us.”

The way he saw it, he had wide latitude to enforce compliance with a court order, though he acknowledged that creditors used bail money to their advantage. “I don’t know whether the Legislature intended it to be used that way or not,” he told me. “I have not had enough pushback from the defendants’ side to give me the impression that I’m really abusing this badly.”```
from the debt collection article


[10-Feb-20 04:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder what the incels and white supremacists and clown pepe avatars are saying about Joachim Phoenix now that it's been revealed at the oscars that he isn't the shitty person they projected him to be


[10-Feb-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Nothing


[10-Feb-20 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
he stopped being relevant a while ago tbh


[10-Feb-20 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm more curious to know what the hell is going on with Jordan Peterson


[10-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
seems like he made some major life fuckups


[10-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2020/02/08/stranded-royal-caribbean-cruise-passengers-slam-liner-amid-coronavirus-scare/

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Stranded Royal Caribbean cruise passengers slam liner amid coronavirus...
“I’m angry, devastated and let down by a company that puts profits before their customers,” a UK tourist said.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/cruise_ship08_12.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[10-Feb-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What company _doesn't_ put profits before their customers?


[10-Feb-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.axios.com/bill-barr-justice-department-ukraine-giuliani-bidens-275f0649-925e-4d73-a117-4c588a2c573c.html

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Barr confirms DOJ is receiving Ukraine information from Giuliani - Axi...
He said it "has an obligation to have an open door to anybody who wishes to provide us information that they think is relevant."
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[10-Feb-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219985839751561226/676483601583570944/1f54bc4161d5c2ca18e903c850b6fd33b091577f.png

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[10-Feb-20 07:32 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess
"My parents drove me to the hospital of course."


[10-Feb-20 07:33 PM] jlun2#8758
or sickness is that thing that happens to other people and never them


[10-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
More likely straight Malthusianism.


[10-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
"People who can't afford a taxi should just die because they're bad"


[10-Feb-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
no-no, it's not 'can't afford a taxi'. It's 'not a taxi'


[10-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
well, what IS it then? 100% legit question.


[10-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think they mean not *your* taxi


[10-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
as in that it shouldn't move without you paying.


[10-Feb-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/676498478037467196/FB_IMG_1581359068626.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2020/02/09/apc-utah-sending-state-employees-to-mexico-for-lower-prescription-prices/

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Utah sending state employees to Mexico for lower prescription prices
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Mexico-prescription-drugs-AP20039038441154-STGnews.jpg


[10-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`The cost difference is so large that the state’s insurance program for public employees can pay for each patient’s flight, give them a $500-per-trip bonus and still save tens of thousands of dollars.`


[10-Feb-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
jesus christ lmao


[10-Feb-20 08:16 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon I told that to my parents and they don't believe me. 😛


[10-Feb-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
How is sky daddy more believeable than the above article.


[10-Feb-20 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sucks =/


[10-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
```The Utah program was created under a 2018 state law dubbed “right to shop” by Republican Rep. Norm Thurston. The Public Employees Health Program offers it only for people who use a drug on a list of about a dozen medications where the state can get significant savings. Of the 160,000 state and local public employees covered by the insurer, fewer than 400 are eligible, according to Managing Director Chet Loftis.```


[10-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
so, rip.


[10-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is how "right to X" stuff goes


[10-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it benefits a small few privileged people while making everyone else think the whole problem is fixed


[10-Feb-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
the appeasement prevents real reform.


[10-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/10/trump-budget-propose-savage-cuts-medicare-medicaid-and-social-security-while-hiking

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Trump Budget to Propose 'Savage' Cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Socia...
"This budget is Trump's pledge that as long as he stays in office, slashing Social Security, Medicaid, and whatever's left of SNAP will remain a White House priority."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/donald_trump_budget.png


[10-Feb-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination
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[10-Feb-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
bye boomer


[10-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is holding steady in NH polls


[10-Feb-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982837/How-hated-man-internet-writes-Graham-Linehan.html

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How I became the most hated man on the internet, writes Graham Linehan
I wrote the much-loved sitcoms Father Ted and The IT Crowd - and yet today I am one of the most hated men on the internet because I speak up against extreme trans rights activists.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/09/02/24492696-0-image-a-10_1581213880764.jpg


[10-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
literally who


[10-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
A desperate cry for attention.


[10-Feb-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
nobody knew my name, until I wrote an article in the Internet.


[10-Feb-20 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
or so I hoped anyway...


[10-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the time that I had trouble making friends until I suggested we all watch a Jim Carrey movie


[10-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one cared who I was until I put on The Mask


[10-Feb-20 10:02 PM] jlun2#8758
> most hated man on the internet
Somehow I just keep living under rocks.


[10-Feb-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's that guy what did the thing on that other thing with the things

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[10-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brokered convention turned out weird

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[10-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bugged caucus mechanics


[10-Feb-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we voted out trump so subtly it;s like he never even left


[10-Feb-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"woooooow"


[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-budget-slashes-amtrak-funding-while-boosting-highway-spending-2020-2

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Trump budget proposal slashes Amtrak funding while boosting highway sp...
Similar cuts proposed by the White House in previous years have been rejected by lawmakers, a fight likely to repeat itself in 2020.
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[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plan for new Air Force One coloring


[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/airforceone.paint_.0210.jpg?itok=62Sl4tNW

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[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump Shuttle


[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Boeing_727-225%2C_Trump_Shuttle_AN0200712.jpg

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[10-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🤔


[10-Feb-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he'd put his brand logo on air force one...


[10-Feb-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite frankly it;s a surprise the white hosue doesnt have shiny gold TRUMP on the front of it now


[10-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
he's waiting to win 2020 before doing that.


[10-Feb-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/moderates-and-progressives-love-to-hate-pete-buttigieg-2020-2

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Pete Buttigieg is uniquely disliked by Democrats across the spectrum e...
Even some moderates are challenging Buttigieg's qualifications and and saying that he's not prepared to be president.
https://i.insider.com/5e416b89e35bab0ae93f2db5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Feb-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pete runs on the platform that money si everything and small doners can fuck right off because he has bigger fish to entice. i;m not surprised he has a lot of backlash


[10-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean he's qualified all right. The issue is, what exactly is he qualified for.


[10-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
the most likely outcome is corporate distopia


[10-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
in many ways this guy's worse than Trump


[10-Feb-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
CEO?


[10-Feb-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would be better off in a corporate office than in politics


[10-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah actually.


[10-Feb-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the problem, he would basically be a younger less senile trump


[10-Feb-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only reason he isnt running with a big R on his name is that the D makes him look palletable to uninformed voters


[10-Feb-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also Trump would crush him


[10-Feb-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden would be a less effective senile trump


[10-Feb-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-employees-donate-more-to-bernie-sanders-than-other-candidates-2020-2

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[10-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's what you get by not rejecting small donors...


[10-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
crowdfunding works.


[10-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really does, and while corporations are panicing trying to prop up a corporate candidate, the employees under them are boosting sanders for his ability to help them and the fact that he is completely in touch with everyissue facing them


[10-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-insight/democrats-in-disarray-in-new-hampshire-as-sanders-surges-and-trump-provokes-idUSKBN20415Y

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[10-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
```Barry Nestor, a Biden supporter in Milford, New Hampshire, said he is particularly worried about Trump’s “socialists” tag sticking to the party’s liberal candidates. ```


[10-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[10-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
shame they didn't provide the age.


[10-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
probably late-60ies again.


[10-Feb-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
barry was a popular baby name in the 1910s wasn't it


[10-Feb-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
:twismug:


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Slashing Amtrak back even further


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
HANDS


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
OFF


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
MY


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
T R A I N S


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
REEEEEEEEEE


[10-Feb-20 11:23 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[10-Feb-20 11:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
In lighter news https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1226937166422577155?s=09

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[10-Feb-20 11:24 PM] jlun2#8758
> criminalize health care for trans youth
Boomer porn


[10-Feb-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/lindsey-graham-william-barr-rudy-giuliani-lev-parnas-ukraine-trump.html

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[10-Feb-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
A massive scandal in any other administration


[10-Feb-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Just another day in this one


[11-Feb-20 12:00 AM] ononim#8141
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[11-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whole lotta people just landed themselves on a list


[11-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Honahue#0656
no one has sass like an old Russian lady


[11-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Feb-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dry up the thirsty gamers. Make them stop lusting.


[11-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things like this, it's gotta be like 13-15yo kids trying to act big based on idiotic tropes they seen in kids movies


[11-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gotta be, r-right?


[11-Feb-20 12:27 AM] ononim#8141
do kids really do that?


[11-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Normal kids, no


[11-Feb-20 12:27 AM] ononim#8141
act like people did on tv without cosmic horror of being wrong and embarassing?


[11-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But every so often there's the young twat that sees douchebros on TV scoring chicks and tries to act tough


[11-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, so like kids who try to trick or treat when they're not in the US


[11-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or they get "the talk" from their dad and their dad is a fucking mess and goes "Be tough and forward and let her know you're the man, champ!"


[11-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/676566794118627328/gomht3p4zzf41.png

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[11-Feb-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Little shit better have been a cub scout because he's gonna end up alone in the woods


[11-Feb-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/terral-ellis-video-appears-to-show-oklahoma-jail-staff-ignoring-pleas-from-dying-inmate/

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[11-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and people will keep doing it


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
the guys on the video will get a boot, there will be some empty bill passed, and nothing will change.


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
the US can't be bothered to treat anyone with respect


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
or basic human dignity


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's socially "cool" to fuck with prisoners


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well it's not just US, I can imagine this shit happening just about anywhere, with possible exception of Scandinavia


[11-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
because they "deserve it"


[11-Feb-20 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
they "deserve" to get raped in prison and contract stds


[11-Feb-20 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent @byte[] Most of our prisons are private to boot. Can't be bothered right now to check this one. But it's something the state can really do anything about because they passed the buck to a private company.


[11-Feb-20 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Private prisons are big buisiness here.


[11-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon @Nebbie https://www.newsweek.com/rhode-island-priest-abortion-ban-communion-1486470

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[11-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Killing things that can't think: Verboten.
Raping things that can: A-OK.


[11-Feb-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
No see


[11-Feb-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
If you abort the kids than the priests can't rape them. It's meticulously well thought out

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[11-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Priests eat child trauma. This threatens their main food source.


[11-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Honahue#0656
remember for centuries the catholic church held that masturbation was a greater sin than rape cause masturbation can't make a baby


[11-Feb-20 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
breed for the glory of the demiurge


[11-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
tbf though this is actually one of the things that Catholics didn't just make up it has biblical precedence unlike a bunch of other stuff they've also said


[11-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8OwhTAc28

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[11-Feb-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-impeachment-trial-democrats-warn-trump-will-do-it-again-if-acquitted/ar-BBZBFWK

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[11-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note that double jeopardy does *not* apply to impeachment.


[11-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Charging Trump again because new evidence has come to light is completely reasonable.


[11-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And well, I can just about guarantee Bolton has something to share with the House.


[11-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
it's that fun thing about not being a 'proper trial'.


[11-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
you can get no witnesses? Well we can get a second trial.


[11-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
fair is fair :D


[11-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The framers intended for there to be actual evidence, but they explictly made it so that it was not a normal trial in consequences.


[11-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, no loss of life, liberty, or property on the line, unlike UK impeachment.


[11-Feb-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/03/trump-impeachment-trial-closing-arguments

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[11-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
With just removal as the only option, you're allowed to forgo due process rights and double jeopardy rights.


[11-Feb-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482391-trump-discusses-school-safety-with-some-parkland-families

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Trump discusses school safety with some Parkland families
President Trump on Monday met with some families of victims of the 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Fla., to discuss potential safety measures as the two-year anniversary of the killings approaches.
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[11-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the whole point is for it to be essentially just figuring out whether to fire the president


[11-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans' whole argument is that it's not that, but a criminal trial, and yet also that it's not even just a criminal trial, but some kind of SUPER trial where the prosecution needs all evidence right away without being helped by the judiciary


[11-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is supposed to be way far in the other direction, can impeach and remove off of the tiniest shred of hearsay because you think the president's being a shithead.


[11-Feb-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/482425-barr-announces-significant-escalation-against-sanctuary-cities

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Barr announces 'significant escalation' against 'sanctuary' localities
Attorney General Bill Barr announced Monday that there will be a “significant escalation” against “sanctuary” cities, counties and states, including lawsuits against localities opposed to the Trump administration's
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[11-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckioYwhE8xE

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[11-Feb-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482433-rally-crowd-chants-46-for-donald-trump-jr

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[11-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Herodotus was right, democracy become monarchy eventually


[11-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
it makes sense, the people eventually get a leader so popular they want to keep him


[11-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
but this one definitely aint it :D


[11-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
that is basically the argument, though admits it passes through oligarchy first


[11-Feb-20 02:22 AM] illumnious#7938
:WAT:

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[11-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Mary Magdalene?


[11-Feb-20 02:23 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/jBn9Aw6AyJ?amp=1

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[11-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cy_4FmvJY


[11-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTr6sYWWCNI

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[11-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus isn't nearly deadly enuff to even really threaten civilization


[11-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it could certainly cause a recession if handled poorly


[11-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tho I suppose to conservatives, recessions are basically the end of civilization if they actually impact the rich.


[11-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
Papa's gift must spread.


[11-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking what is this mess?


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is he just mad Joker didn't win or what?


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A guy who wanted Joker to win.


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he...hasn't seen Joker?


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] ononim#8141
he looks like fuking consoomer redditor wojak


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure he has.


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I haven't seen either but he's complaining about how socially important Joker is and how it touches on the rich being bad/mental health etc


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Parasite covers very similar shit from what I've heard.


[11-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has he seen Parasite too?


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then fukk him.


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parasite to my limited understanding is entirely about that.


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even if it wasn't


[11-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
come on, you need to see both things to say one is better.


[11-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wouldn't be as funny if he weren't such a massive Joker fanboy shitting on a movie that covers very similar concepts


[11-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It legitimately makes me think he wanted it to win because of memes and the "it's more culturally important" rant is BS.


[11-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because of people like this that the Academy briefly considered adding a people's choice category


[11-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's because Parasite isn't white.


[11-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.businessinsider.com/oscars-almost-had-a-viewers-choice-academy-award-2019-2

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[11-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no other reason.


[11-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This shit would be so fucking bad.


[11-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would just be generic Marvelshit every year.


[11-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy doesn't like that a foreign movie can win.


[11-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
nah he's too simple a person to consider that.


[11-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just memes and fanboy thing.


[11-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is Comic Book Guy.


[11-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[11-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
he explicitly said


[11-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
that he doesn't like it winning Best Picture


[11-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
when it already won Best Foreign Film


[11-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He EXPLICITLY SAYS that ANYTHING foreign should NEVER be nominated for Best Picture


[11-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb.


[11-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also says it would be fine if it had Best US Film as a category too, as an example


[11-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
hm. Well then.


[11-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In his eyes, it's unfair because then foreign films hav two chances to win.


[11-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So does any animated film


[11-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't know that apparently.


[11-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or wait, he does and thinks it's okay?


[11-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also doesn't know about things like Best Actress vs. Best Supporting Actress


[11-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he knows.


[11-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also lists 1917 among films he wanted to win.


[11-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a foreign film made in the UK


[11-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yqyfm0xbvk

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[11-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, implicitly, what he's really saying is White English films should be Best Picture


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
1917 was good but it was mostly because of the single shot gimmic


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that anything else can be Best Foreign Film


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was someone else


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's very clearly just racist.


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
kek


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
not racist but it was "da Joos"


[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Original tweet

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[11-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"A foreign film that stokes flames of class warfare"


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean fucking Joker?


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Honahue#0656
wow a Korean man gives a speech in Korean


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, he repeats the 1917 thing there.


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
such disrespect. Much warfare. Wow.


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Joker wasn't about class warfare it was about class


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy also got mad Frozen had songs being sung in multiple languages


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
at the show


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Frozen 2?


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
both of them, I assume. The first one had it too


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk him to death with a rake.


[11-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, at the Oscars they had people singing songs from it in multiple languages


[11-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So for those who havn't seen Frozen 2


[11-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire plot is basically "woops we fukked over the Sami"


[11-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
oh wow an award show that has movies from multiple countries has songs from other countries languages


[11-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the entire production had to hav Sami advisors to get the culture right because like, their culture has been trashed by Christian fukkheads for centuries.


[11-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in conclusion.


[11-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy's racist.


[11-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't stand people even akknowledging other cultures.


[11-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably hates Frozen 2 itself cause of its message.


[11-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
didn't Toy Story 4 win though?


[11-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I didn't see either movie


[11-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not that category.


[11-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rocketman won for what Frozen 2 was nominated for.


[11-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
best musical or something


[11-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures (Original Song)"


[11-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Toy Story 4 got Best Animated Feature Film


[11-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which Klaus should've won IMO)


[11-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
should've had Godzilla nominated for that the updated themes for all the monsters were amazing


[11-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also 1917 won multiple categories


[11-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
especially considering how cheezy Mothra's theme was


[11-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Given how many videos he's made about Harley Quinn I assume he's sexist as well


[11-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't have a Harley Quinn story with these people


[11-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly a generic incel.


[11-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
disappointment.


[11-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I want to see Birds of Prey, weird that DC finally gets it's act together for superhero movies by focusing on the non-superpowered villians


[11-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Batman is notable to me because it's the one time I saw a "fans are wrong" bit actually work


[11-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6UDEi8H43M

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[11-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every other one I've seen oozes salt and is a waste of time.


[11-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not Animaniacs, stop getting so upset a rando on Twitter said your writing was bad.


[11-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
it's like people forget that for at least a decade Batman was defined by Adam West


[11-Feb-20 03:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Adam Best Batman


[11-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a good bit partially because Batman more than anything else has always had comedic takes


[11-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It works less with say, Teen Titans or Thundercats, who never were that


[11-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And to a lesser degree, MLP


[11-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
TAS still best Batman cause it could go from dark to comedy and also Batman still seemed like an adult instead of an emotionaly stunted 10 yo in the body of an acrobat


[11-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Honahue#0656
I think the kinda 40's aesthetic might have helped too


[11-Feb-20 03:17 AM] jlun2#8758
At least I'm not the only one who dislikes everything being dark and depressing @PwnyPony


[11-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
grimdark is simply childish.


[11-Feb-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
So psker can post blatant rage bait propaganda in here and nobody says anything? 🤔


[11-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I assume Nebbie blocked him and the rest don't care enough.


[11-Feb-20 03:37 AM] jlun2#8758
Everytime I visit Psker isn't here so idk


[11-Feb-20 03:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There is no point in arguing with anyone that watches people like Sargon.
You are more likely to get a break through by banging your head against a wall.


[11-Feb-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
someone in another server posted a small rant about being abused by customers at a starbucks because he was the only one working there at the time and he was running behind on making orders and people were waiting at the register


[11-Feb-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I said "that sucks, but you know your boss is just as much to blame as the customers, right?"


[11-Feb-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
and he vigorously denied any wrongdoing on the boss's part


[11-Feb-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
people are fucking brainwashed by this system

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[11-Feb-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
CEOs and managers are infallible gods


[11-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/trisha_tahmasbi/status/1227014773021323270?s=21

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HOLY FUCK, you gotta listen to this speech @MikeBloomberg tried to block from release.

Thank you @BenjaminPDixon for covering this

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[11-Feb-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] This is so sad, can we get a union


[11-Feb-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know if Starbucks is unionized but one of the companies I work with is, a regional grocery store chain. They're unionized with the UFCW. Contract negotiations for the next contract finished and passed on a vote and that's where I learned that Starbucks employees working at least in affiliated outlets in which ever grocery stores can technically be a part of the UFCW union and are written into the contract


[11-Feb-20 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
So any regional Starbucks employees, at Starbucks outlets in the grocery stores got a pay raise and benefits bump


[11-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1227097501003603969

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BREAKING NEWS: In Historically Stupid Election Result, Michael Bloomberg, Who Is Not Contesting New Hampshire, Wins Democratic *and* Republican Primary Vote in Dixville Notch
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[11-Feb-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What


[11-Feb-20 07:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbs46.com/news/ga-dean-among-arrested-in-sting-targeting-child-predators/article_d751a4f8-4c51-11ea-984b-4399cc2d4542.html

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Ga. dean among 14 arrested in sting targeting child predators
VALDOSTA, Ga. (CBS46) -- An online undercover investigation targeting child predators ended with the arrest of 14 people, including Keith Walters, 44, a Dean at Valdosta State University. His bio
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[11-Feb-20 07:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I was wrong, GRU and pol had a field day with it https://i.redd.it/zq0c6i7ew4g41.jpg

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[11-Feb-20 08:01 AM] Sev3617#4685
lol


[11-Feb-20 08:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and liberating cattle


[11-Feb-20 08:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
🐮


[11-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never had an unusual pet but I wonder


[11-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people who own say, a rabbit or pig feel bad about eating a different rabbit or pig?


[11-Feb-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those are basically the only two pets that are acceptable as food as well in the West


[11-Feb-20 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With pig I assume some can say "not the same kind" but that doesn't work with rabbits


[11-Feb-20 08:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people also have pet chickens


[11-Feb-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who own rabbits tend to be either little girls or farmers.


[11-Feb-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the former case, they havn't yet developed an opinion, and in the latter case, the opinion is "who cares?"


[11-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, imagine Apple Bloom having a rabbit, one ep she leaves the cage open, and Sandra the wolf is caught with half the rabbit still kikking.


[11-Feb-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
AJ notes rabbits are "good eatin'", Apple Bloom is briefly sad, but shrugs, as the other two CMC recoil in horror etc.


[11-Feb-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pigs are different. They're smarter than dogs, and a hell of a lot smarter than rabbits. Those people actually tend to care for, and might alter their perspectives on pork.


[11-Feb-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That said, it still tends to be farmers that raise pigs, and so the attitude is "who cares?"


[11-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, @Itsthinking, the problem isn't really that people own dogs as pets.


[11-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that the people who own dogs as pets are normal.


[11-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pot bellied pigs are also not the kind of pigs that get slaughtered


[11-Feb-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so you get very non-brutalistic views on them.


[11-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Farmers are people whose *first* choice of problem resolution is "kill Bob"


[11-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pot bellied pigs are basically dogs


[11-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But smarter.


[11-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With hooves


[11-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[11-Feb-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So with farm animals, the issue is the ones who raise them don't giv a shit about slaughtering them in the end.


[11-Feb-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That then translates to the rest of society.


[11-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If mostly farmers had dogs, then people wouldn't care about slaughtering dogs.


[11-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Farmers do basically mass raise dogs but to sell


[11-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I mean is imagine that having a dog was a sign of being a farmer.


[11-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least used to before puppy mills became owned by even less qualified people


[11-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than just anyone having a dog.


[11-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the views of the people that deal with an animal that translate to what society overall thinks.


[11-Feb-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you gave pigs mostly to non-farmers, then it wouldn't be long before pork sales drop like a rokk.


[11-Feb-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it were a very, very small group of people.


[11-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That is what it currently is though.


[11-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pot bellied pigs are a tiny fraction of pet ownership


[11-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And a full sized pig is too big to be a pet


[11-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But who owns them?


[11-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if it's people who liv near wheat fields and not cul-de-sacs...


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pot bellied pigs? Same people that would get like a shih tzu or corgi


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know *why* farmers are brutal, right?


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No cops around for miles?


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
More than that


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
lower population density


[11-Feb-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We don't call 911. Sorry grandma"


[11-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cop can be right next door


[11-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem is that your personal land is a mile wide


[11-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that you can't *enforce* things, it's that you can't *monitor* things


[11-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your dog could be dead near some stream


[11-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
you wouldn't know for weeks


[11-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your neighbor could've stolen your cat, or fed it to his dog, or anything.


[11-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile he's doing a drug deal.


[11-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav no fukkin' clue


[11-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The area per person makes it impossible to figure out things in a timely manner, if at all.


[11-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This loss of control leads to a greater urgency to deal with things.


[11-Feb-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of farmers having many kids who work early in life is that that way there's always someone out there to watch things and deal with things.


[11-Feb-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, you can't raise a pot-bellied pig in an apartment easily, @Itsthinking


[11-Feb-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are extremely outdoor animals.


[11-Feb-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to be clear, I say "farmer", but it means anyone in a rural area, basically.


[11-Feb-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
My grandma doesn't farm, but where she is, the neighbor's dog may eat your cat, and so you shoot it and don't tell anyone.


[11-Feb-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Acres and acres of grass.


[11-Feb-20 08:57 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And eat the dog?


[11-Feb-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah dogs aren't very good meat, and you probably ruin it anyways with the shot.


[11-Feb-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with all the people raising cows nearby, beef is cheap.


[11-Feb-20 08:58 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ostriches?


[11-Feb-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's too cold for them.


[11-Feb-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking my mom was raised on a farm btw.


[11-Feb-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
She had rabbits.


[11-Feb-20 08:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does farm life comes with lewd side?:twicrazy:


[11-Feb-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
One day she no longer had rabbits. "Oh well".


[11-Feb-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, farmers are like


[11-Feb-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you know how you like to bitch about shitty people? And it'll be stuff like people who litter etc.?


[11-Feb-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
For farmers, that takes on a very gritty aspect


[11-Feb-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is about sex, bodily functions, race, or substance abuse.


[11-Feb-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using the most vulgar wording possible at any given time.


[11-Feb-20 09:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/10/cpac-chair-mitt-romney-impeachment/


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[11-Feb-20 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[11-Feb-20 11:56 AM] ononim#8141
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Rights activists criticise trial, saying members of the Network were tortured
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[11-Feb-20 11:57 AM] ononim#8141
```A Russian court has issued harsh sentences to seven antifascist and anarchist activists in a controversial domestic terrorism case marred by claims that investigators tortured the defendants to elicit confessions.

The court in Penza, a city about 390 miles (630km) south-east of Moscow, sentenced the men to terms of six to 18 years in penal colonies for allegedly forming an organisation called Set, which translates as the Network, which prosecutors said planned to carry out future attacks inside Russia to overthrow the government. The men were also charged with an assortment of weapons and drugs charges.

Influential human rights groups have called the case fabricated and said the men may have been targeted for their political activism. Four of the men on trial said they had been tortured with beatings and electrocution during the investigation. In December, Memorial human rights centre, one of Russia’s oldest civil rights organisations, had called for the charges to be dropped.

“It is obvious that the prosecution of the antifascist activists in Penza, part of ongoing repressive measures against anarchists and antifascists that sharply increased in 2017–2018, is politically motivated,” the organisation wrote.```


[11-Feb-20 01:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[11-Feb-20 01:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
2 years on probation for stealling millions of tax payers


[11-Feb-20 01:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
17 years for playing strikeball and have different ideas


[11-Feb-20 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
having a pet pig isn't a sign of a farmer. I mean, the whole point of mini pigs is to make them portable for urban environment.


[11-Feb-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
actually, on the other pony server there's a guy who used to raise them; I'll ask what was their purpose, but I imagine pet supply was the primary focus (that or lab use)


[11-Feb-20 02:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Chihuahua flashbacks.... portability for bag carry...


[11-Feb-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
disregarding the tiny abominations that suffer from all sorts of disorders their entire lives and can't reproduce without human assistance, the dog as a pet is mainstream simply because it's a millenia-old tradition, as a hunting, war or sentry asset.


[11-Feb-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
pigs can be useful to gather herbs and such I imagine, as well as agriculture, but their individual practical utility is rather limited. So there was simply no tradition formed around them.
```The point of farmers having many kids who work early in life is that that way there's always someone out there to watch things and deal with things.```
also at least partly wrong, the point of having many kids who work early is, before very recently (like a century or so maybe?), a farmer 'controlled' ('owned' might not always be a good term) as much land as they could work. So, barring hired or communal labor, your farm size (or whatever it might be called at the time) directly scaled with number of children. There's also mortality consideration etc, but the land thing is specifically rural issue.


[11-Feb-20 02:05 PM] ononim#8141
how can you bear arguing with neb on hours over minuscule things he got his writing engine going is beyond me


[11-Feb-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
sometimes it's entertaining *shrug*. I'm not contesting gun control or racism things anymore cause I know what I'll hear :D


[11-Feb-20 02:06 PM] ononim#8141
Also, dogs are indeed used as a food source in certain places in east and south-east asia, along if I am not mistaken Oceania


[11-Feb-20 02:07 PM] ononim#8141
the rationale is actually similar to pigs, i.e. they are not picky eaters so you can grow them with almost anything, espeically if you don't care about them being healthy


[11-Feb-20 02:08 PM] ononim#8141
anyway


[11-Feb-20 02:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/02/07/gay-murder-moscow-acquittal/https://therussianreader.com/2020/02/07/gay-murder-moscow-acquittal/

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“He Fell on the Knife”: Moscow Jury Acquits Man Who Confessed to In...
Moscow Jury Acquits Man Who Confessed to Involuntary Manslaughter of Gay Man Takie Dela February 7, 2020 A jury at Moscow’s Basmanny District Court acquitted a man accused of murdering homose…
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[11-Feb-20 02:08 PM] ononim#8141
```A jury at Moscow’s Basmanny District Court acquitted a man accused of murdering homosexual Roman Yedalov, reports the LGBT group Stimul, whose lawyers represented the interests of the victim’s friend and mother in court. The website xgay.ru reports that the assailant’s name is Anton Berezhnoy.

The defendant admitted his guilt in part. He claimed, however, that he had not caused the death deliberately but accidentally: the victim had allegedly “[fallen] on the knife.” On February 6, when asked the question of whether Berezhnoy had caused Yedalov’s death or not, the jury said he had not, thus obviating the following question as to his guilt.

A final verdict will be handed down by the presiding judge in a few days but, according to law, the verdict cannot be a guilty one for the defendant. Stimul’s lawyers have already said they would appeal the court’s decision.

“The evidence and testimony presented in the trial convinced me that the altercation was provoked by the defendant,” said Anton Lapov, a lawyer for the injured party. “I’m convinced that it was this bloody outcome that the defendant envisaged. One person had their life taken, while another person was robbed of their health.”```


[11-Feb-20 02:08 PM] ononim#8141
I hate timezones, probably going to repost both of these then it's a day in Yankistan


[11-Feb-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
it's daytime in yankistan


[11-Feb-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
barely


[11-Feb-20 02:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What the fuck. That guy should trip and fall on someone's fist repeatedly.


[11-Feb-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-live-rally-new-hampshire-speech-budget-2020-proposal-election-polls-a9327266.html

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[11-Feb-20 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, it;s an updating article... welp guess i'll need to quotethe section i wanted to post directly


[11-Feb-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Trump says coronavirus will go away in April because of 'the heat' as he praises 'executions' of drug dealers in rambling speech...
> 
> Donald Trump is facing ridicule after claiming the coronavirus will likely disappear in April when "the heat comes in” as backlash grows over US border officials reportedly blasting a Native American burial site to make way for the border wall.
> 
> On Monday, Mr Trump seemingly attempted to mitigate fears of a global pandemic by telling the nation's governors in the White House State Dining Room: "The heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus." He said the US was "in very good shape" to handle the spread of the virus after the death toll surpassed 900 victims in China.
> Meanwhile, the president was “basically trampling on the tribe’s history” in ordering the controlled blasting of the Native American burial site, Rep. Raúl Grijalva, who represents the district in question, told CBS News. Mr Trump was meanwhile seeking a reported $2bn (£1.5bn) to fund further construction of the wall in his $4.8 trillion (£3.7 trillion) budget proposal for the 2021 fiscal year.


[11-Feb-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
another day in U S of A.


[11-Feb-20 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
remember that politicians can say anything because people don't know anything


[11-Feb-20 02:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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Work 'under way' into Scotland-Northern Ireland bridge feasibility
Number 10 says "a range of government officials" are looking at the idea of a linking bridge.
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[11-Feb-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[11-Feb-20 03:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So I forget if I mentioned it in here but I briefly went through Paul Joseph Watson's Twitter account


[11-Feb-20 03:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In under ten tweets, complained about graffiti, birth control pills existing, doge speak, and women not having children


[11-Feb-20 03:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He posted one tweet in 24 hours that wasn't raging, him with his cat.


[11-Feb-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1226977909551837186

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Now on to Bloomberg’s classism:

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[11-Feb-20 03:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The birth control tweet was expressing joy over a shortage of it and being glad that promiscuous women "face consequences"


[11-Feb-20 03:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He also made an unironic "phone bad" tweet


[11-Feb-20 03:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is all these people have, especially because they've decided any form of entertainment or fun is beneath them.


[11-Feb-20 03:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This _is_ their fun.


[11-Feb-20 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[11-Feb-20 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatism would be basically nothing if nobody believed the boogeyman "liberal" existed


[11-Feb-20 03:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's beyond that


[11-Feb-20 03:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of this ideology is that anything that you basically could enjoy is designed to ruin or distract you


[11-Feb-20 03:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only acceptable thing is pretty much talking in person with your friends about politics or hanging out with your pet (but don't get too obsessed with your pet or that's bad too)


[11-Feb-20 03:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or making YouTube videos about your politics


[11-Feb-20 03:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If it doesn't involve politics it doesn't matter


[11-Feb-20 03:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're not always "on" you're mindless etc


[11-Feb-20 03:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'd suggest that the new conservative movement is or should he crippled by their inability to socialize with other people as human beings, and not political freaks. But then I remembered the new conservative movement doesn't need direct human interaction at a normal level to do that, it's somehow fitted to work in rambling YouTube video lectures and they can reach a large broadcast audience.


[11-Feb-20 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds stressful


[11-Feb-20 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's essentially how it spread


[11-Feb-20 03:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's fun to them.


[11-Feb-20 03:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Where as socialist organizers don't have the advantage of being able to make a rant video in their truck. And often do have to interact directly with people.


[11-Feb-20 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
new conservatives are just old conspiracy theorists given a bigger platform to spread on


[11-Feb-20 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To any normal person making 50 videos about Captain Marvel being woke is sad


[11-Feb-20 03:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is their entertainment


[11-Feb-20 03:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also original guy I mentioned? Unironically a prohibitionist.


[11-Feb-20 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ultimately these are the people who read Brave New World and got from it "Don't enjoy anything ever"


[11-Feb-20 03:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or they would if they read more than The One Book


[11-Feb-20 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a30859599/trump-budget-cut-medicare-cdc-coronavirus/

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In Any Sane Country, Trump's New Budget Would Be Political Suicide
Cutting the CDC in the middle of a pandemic is not viable in a functioning republic. We do not currently have one.
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[11-Feb-20 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he might as well just drop a nuke on california at this point. It wouldnt be out of image for him now


[11-Feb-20 04:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"lol poop is on street that make fifth biggest economy in world bad"


[11-Feb-20 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was going to say new york but that would threaten trump tower and we can't have that nnow can we...


[11-Feb-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/king-donald-to-gop-and-now-and-forever-you-shall-be-my-servants

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King Donald to GOP: And Now—and Forever—You Shall Be My Servants
Trump’s performances Thursday told the world that corruption had triumphed. He learned exactly the opposite lesson of the one Republicans imagined.
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[11-Feb-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
> only Americans fed on a daily drip of IV agitporn from Fox and Facebook believe Trump is morally or mentally fit for the task at hand


[11-Feb-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
we'll see if it counts for anything in the end though.


[11-Feb-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/11/sanders-crushes-trump-18-points-among-independent-voters-new-national-general

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Sanders Crushes Trump by 18 Points Among Independent Voters in New ...
"Bernie Sanders is undeniably the strongest candidate against Donald Trump," tweeted journalist Walker Bragman.
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[11-Feb-20 05:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/09/bernie-sanders-could-beat-donald-trump-2020-column/4694526002/

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Moderate Democrats have a duty to consider Sanders. He has a clear ...
Bernie Sanders isn't even my favorite senator running for the 2020 nomination. But I see his potential to unite the Democratic Party and oust Trump.
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[11-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats trying to win an election without their left wing flank is like Republicans trying to win without Evangelicals


[11-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
a prospect fraught with peril.


[11-Feb-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Feb-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/482508-mcconnell-urges-opposition-to-effort-to-constrain-trumps-iran-war-powers

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McConnell urges opposition to effort to constrain Trump's Iran war ...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is urging senators to reject efforts to rein in President Trump's ability to take military action against Iran without congressional approval.
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[11-Feb-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
well they'd want that wouldn't they.


[11-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should just call him addison mcconnell from now on, it;s probably a name that bugs him more than anything else


[11-Feb-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
bankrupt the country and blame it on 'socialists'.


[11-Feb-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/482488-world-health-organization-calls-coronavirus-grave-threat-globally

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World Health Organization calls coronavirus 'grave threat' globally
The global director of the World Health Organization (WHO) said Tuesday that the disease presents a "very grave threat for the rest of the world" after the death toll in China passed 1,000 on Monday.
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[11-Feb-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, the heat from the global warming will take care of that.


[11-Feb-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
oh wait.


[11-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its fake yea


[11-Feb-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/oscars-2020-feminism-women-directors-representation-1203499606/

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Oscars’ Corporate ‘Feminism’ Isn’t Empowering —  It’s Condescending...
Every time I’ve wandered into a department store in the past decade or so, I inevitably run into a display of sassy, glittering shirts emblazoned with aggressively empowering phrases — “FEMINIST,” …
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[11-Feb-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/sl3996awm7g41.jpg DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 13 PER—

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[11-Feb-20 06:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nooo Bernie don't say the gamer word


[11-Feb-20 06:32 PM] ononim#8141
n


[11-Feb-20 06:32 PM] ononim#8141
n..


[11-Feb-20 06:32 PM] ononim#8141
*N*


[11-Feb-20 06:32 PM] ononim#8141
*Nnnnnnn*


[11-Feb-20 06:32 PM] ononim#8141
**NERF**


[11-Feb-20 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, they're not entirely wrong. The pendulum will swing back hard and the potential for this exists.


[11-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't nessesarily think it would be a bad thing either.


[11-Feb-20 06:48 PM] jlun2#8758
Will he even do that, or is he too nuts  to consider calling himself king


[11-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, he's repeatedly floated the idea of removing term limits


[11-Feb-20 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think at one point he floated the idea of just getting rid of the presidential election entirely


[11-Feb-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also constantly references various dynasties


[11-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Honahue#0656
do the Roman thing, I'm not king I'm the princepts just means first citizen


[11-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Certainly likes decorating like a decadent monarch


[11-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Honahue#0656
though I think Trump wouldn't be so modest


[11-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Honahue#0656
as a roman emporer


[11-Feb-20 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's pretty much already acting like an emperor


[11-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, Caligula...


[11-Feb-20 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now who wants to hedge bets on him getting stabbed 72 times in the back?


[11-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well he pissed off (and pissed on) his intelligence and military, so just Secret Service remains.


[11-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
not a great long-term survival strat imo.


[11-Feb-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point secret service is only going along contractually considering he forces thme to pay for hotel stays


[11-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
also 'first citizen' really is much too modest for him


[11-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
Lord Buttchug might go for it. This guy never will.


[11-Feb-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile he wants to fire his current military leaders and replace them with eddie gallagher psychopaths


[11-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/roger-stone-sentencing-justice-department/index.html

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The Justice Department will backtrack on its request that longtime Donald Trump confidante Roger Stone get up to nine years in prison, a senior department official said Tuesday, contradicting its own federal prosecutors in a highly unusual and politically charged move.
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[11-Feb-20 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkHarrisNYC/status/1225155109518180353

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@willmenaker When you visit immigrants in cages, families drinking poisonous tap water, and women who can't afford to travel out of state to get abortions, definitely let them know they just need to hang in for four more years until you get exactly what you want.
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[11-Feb-20 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.androidauthority.com/t-mobile-sprint-merger-approval-judge-1082287/

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It's happening: T-Mobile-Sprint merger approved, now officially all...
The $26 million merger of the nation's third and fourth largest US carriers is looking more likely to be completed in 2020.
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[11-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/joe-biden-scrambles-to-save-south-carolina/index.html

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Biden to bail on New Hampshire primary-night party and head to Sout...
Joe Biden is flying to South Carolina on Tuesday night, bailing at the last minute on his planned New Hampshire primary-night party ahead of another expected loss.
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[11-Feb-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's waltzing to his more secure base of support


[11-Feb-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i doubt even there he'll be able to beat El Berno


[11-Feb-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much less buttguy the ever peteing


[11-Feb-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if south carolina liked biden, they;re going to abandon him for the shiny new fuck toy that is buttigieg


[11-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
538 has Sanders bakk in 1 in 2 to win the whole nomination process.


[11-Feb-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Please win


[11-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has less than a 1% to win NH


[11-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
No wonder he's regrouping in SC


[11-Feb-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.mayopete.io

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[11-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Quick reminder: racial justice is a tax. On Americans."


[11-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[11-Feb-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even Jr. admits Sanders energizes people


[11-Feb-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
for the first and last time in their lives people got to believe they're worth something. Something more than 10% of the profit they make for their master.


[11-Feb-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
no wonder.


[11-Feb-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
10% seems high


[11-Feb-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"We cannot dismantle voter suppression with neutral policies. Only purity tests policies can do that."


[11-Feb-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Feb-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.is/Xx9UQ

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How the CIA used Crypto AG encryption devices to spy on countries f...
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[11-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr, a swiss firm that's been operating for over half a century as a neutral super-safe super-secure provider of tech for practically every type of operation out there was owned by the US and Germany and made sure the tech was easily hackable by them


[11-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
using neutral countries this way is tried and true, so, no suprise there.


[11-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
it can also go both ways :3


[11-Feb-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
> Even so, the Crypto operation is relevant to modern espionage. Its reach and duration helps to explain how the United States developed an insatiable appetite for global surveillance that was exposed in 2013 by Edward Snowden.
Searching it up gave <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013%E2%80%93present)>, but while page says ongoing, 2018, 2019 sections are missing. That has been a slow drip of leaks


[11-Feb-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly it wouldnt surprise me if several different governments didnt have various swiss firms tapped


[11-Feb-20 09:49 PM] jlun2#8758
> But the company was dismembered in 2018, liquidated by shareholders whose identities have been permanently shielded by the byzantine laws of Liechtenstein, a tiny European nation with a Cayman Islands-like reputation for financial secrecy.

> Liechtenstein
Tiny, obscure European nations that insist on independence


[11-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/doj-backpedalling-sentencing-recommendation-trump-ally-roger-stone-n1134961

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Roger Stone prosecutor resigns from case after DOJ backpedals on se...
Trump tweeted early Tuesday, calling the initial sentencing recommendation "disgraceful" and a "miscarriage of justice."
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[11-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```Tiny, obscure European nations that insist on independence```


[11-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
that's literally their only goods.


[11-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
financial fraud.


[11-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, legal framework for facilitating financial fraud


[11-Feb-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/new-ukraine-emails-prove-white-house-lied-to-congressional-investigators/

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New Ukraine Emails Prove White House Lied to Congressional Investig...
Recently released emails show the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) knew more than previously disclosed about President Donald Trump’s brief hold on Ukrainian military aid last summer.
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[11-Feb-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
lock him up


[11-Feb-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
lock him up


[11-Feb-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
lock him up


[11-Feb-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that's ok because it was in the best interest of the public campaign speeches!


[11-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the nation can't afford to lose it's President in a middle of a major war!


[11-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
what do you mean there's no major war, we're actively working on it!


[11-Feb-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vo6v3wm7iag41.jpg Congrats on being self-aware I guess

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[11-Feb-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
When "win" means "ignore basic facts until everyone else realizes you aren't interested in actually looking at evidence"


[11-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
'win' means the last one standing.


[11-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the easiest way to do it is force everyone else to leave.


[11-Feb-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
oh ffs https://reason.com/2020/02/11/finger-gun-school-tredyffrin-valley-forge-down-syndrome/

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[11-Feb-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
leave it to reason to be effectively my agitporn tbh


[11-Feb-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://abc30.com/society/fresno-police-handcuffed-16-year-old-with-autism-after-he-had-seizure-mom-says/5896343/

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A Valley mother claims her cry for help for her 16-year-old son who has autism and was suffering a seizure ended instead with him being handcuffed by Fresno Police. They are now investigating the incident.
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[11-Feb-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/01/29/judge-says-jail-staff-acted-with-indifference-when-woman-gave-birth-alone-in-cell/

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Judge says East Bay jail staff acted with ‘indifference’ when woman...
A federal judge issued an opinion, criticizing the Alameda County Sheriff’s office for their “indifference” when a woman gave birth in a jail cell alone, screaming for hours in 20…
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[11-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
```The papers largely avoid more unsettling questions, including what the United States knew — and what it did or didn’t do — about countries that used Crypto machines while engaged in assassination plots, ethnic cleansing campaigns and human rights abuses. ```


[11-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[11-Feb-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
obviously the US endorsed all of it


[11-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
My nation is cartoonishly evil


[11-Feb-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I need to get the fuck out of here


[11-Feb-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] start a gofundme to move all derpi devs/mods to europe or asia


[11-Feb-20 10:47 PM] jlun2#8758
or canada/mexico


[11-Feb-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to norway!


[11-Feb-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MSHPTrooperF/status/1227294238192345094

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Fact. I’ve never found a suitcase that held any suits."
-K9 Rony

Vehicle stopped for speeding & lane violations on I-70 in Cooper County. 45 lbs. of marijuana discovered inside a suitcase & plastic totes. Ecstasy & other pills also seized.

Details: https://t.co/bm93Ci7Evs
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Twitter


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[11-Feb-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Feb-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482613-biden-sees-black-support-erode-to-bloomberg

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Biden sees black support erode to Bloomberg
Former Vice President Joe Biden’s struggling presidential campaign is in serious danger of seeing its support from black voters erode, and New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg may be the biggest beneficiary.
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[11-Feb-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
NATIONAL STOP AND FRISK SOON


[11-Feb-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then


[11-Feb-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
STOP AND FRISK IN MIDDLE EAST


[11-Feb-20 11:42 PM] ononim#8141
Oh it is "people are online" time in Burgerland, I shall fufil my promise


[11-Feb-20 11:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/10/russian-anti-fascist-group-network-jail

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Russian antifascist group given 'monstrous' jail terms
Rights activists criticise trial, saying members of the Network were tortured
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[11-Feb-20 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
```A Russian court has issued harsh sentences to seven antifascist and anarchist activists in a controversial domestic terrorism case marred by claims that investigators tortured the defendants to elicit confessions.

The court in Penza, a city about 390 miles (630km) south-east of Moscow, sentenced the men to terms of six to 18 years in penal colonies for allegedly forming an organisation called Set, which translates as the Network, which prosecutors said planned to carry out future attacks inside Russia to overthrow the government. The men were also charged with an assortment of weapons and drugs charges.

Influential human rights groups have called the case fabricated and said the men may have been targeted for their political activism. Four of the men on trial said they had been tortured with beatings and electrocution during the investigation. In December, Memorial human rights centre, one of Russia’s oldest civil rights organisations, had called for the charges to be dropped.

“It is obvious that the prosecution of the antifascist activists in Penza, part of ongoing repressive measures against anarchists and antifascists that sharply increased in 2017–2018, is politically motivated,” the organisation wrote.```


[11-Feb-20 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/02/07/gay-murder-moscow-acquittal/

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Moscow Jury Acquits Man Who Confessed to Involuntary Manslaughter of Gay Man Takie Dela February 7, 2020 A jury at Moscow’s Basmanny District Court acquitted a man accused of murdering homose…
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[11-Feb-20 11:43 PM] ononim#8141
```A jury at Moscow’s Basmanny District Court acquitted a man accused of murdering homosexual Roman Yedalov, reports the LGBT group Stimul, whose lawyers represented the interests of the victim’s friend and mother in court. The website xgay.ru reports that the assailant’s name is Anton Berezhnoy.

The defendant admitted his guilt in part. He claimed, however, that he had not caused the death deliberately but accidentally: the victim had allegedly “[fallen] on the knife.” On February 6, when asked the question of whether Berezhnoy had caused Yedalov’s death or not, the jury said he had not, thus obviating the following question as to his guilt.

A final verdict will be handed down by the presiding judge in a few days but, according to law, the verdict cannot be a guilty one for the defendant. Stimul’s lawyers have already said they would appeal the court’s decision.

“The evidence and testimony presented in the trial convinced me that the altercation was provoked by the defendant,” said Anton Lapov, a lawyer for the injured party. “I’m convinced that it was this bloody outcome that the defendant envisaged. One person had their life taken, while another person was robbed of their health.”```


[11-Feb-20 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-advisers-say-their-ideal-democratic-primary-scenario-taking-shape-n1133276

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The best outcome for the president, says his team, would be if the Democratic contest continued all the way to the party's convention — and they'd like to help make sure that happens.
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[11-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the exact thing Democrats did in 2016.


[11-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Right down to encouraging people to vote for "the weak one"


[11-Feb-20 11:57 PM] jlun2#8758
So they want people to vote Bernie expecting "socialism is taboo"?


[11-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[11-Feb-20 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man the GOP is quite underestimating Bernie here


[12-Feb-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is the only winnable candidate the Dems are running


[12-Feb-20 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> "In a Bernie Sanders, you have the goofy uncle you try to avoid at the family picnic. In Mayor Pete, you have the tenth guy you add to a conference call when you're hiring a consulting firm," said Jason Miller, a communications strategist for Trump's 2016 campaign. "Neither have the big ideas to go head to head with President Trump."


[12-Feb-20 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> "Neither have the big ideas to go head to head with President Trump."


[12-Feb-20 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:glowing_eyes:


[12-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, like...


[12-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
bold words.


[12-Feb-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
Are sickles and hammers even used today by today's workers in America?


[12-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
hammers yes, sickles no


[12-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
sickle is the throwback to heavy manual agricultural nature of USSR


[12-Feb-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought the fastest growing segment were service jobs like McDonalds, and I can't imagine that having sickles.


[12-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
sickle is purpose-designed to cut grains. Now it's entirely replaced by combines.


[12-Feb-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
🛠️


[12-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is closer to the truth. Although service industry doesn't have their own  symbol


[12-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Macarou#9574
What would a good symbol be for service?


[12-Feb-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent So that's what they're called; I just refer them as "wheat tractors" lol. ty


[12-Feb-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the symbol for service is a man bending over with his pants down while he gets fucked in the mouth by his boss and fucked in the ass by the police

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[12-Feb-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
That sounds like the porn definition of "providing services"


[12-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Midknight#9798
service workers have disposable napkins for wiping spittle off their face after an encounter with Karen


[12-Feb-20 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/11/bloomberg-said-murder-suspects-2015-just-take-description-xerox-it-and-pass-it-out

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In a separate resurfaced audio recording, the billionaire and former NYC mayor said of stop and frisk, "I think we disproportionately stop whites too much, and minorities too little."
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[12-Feb-20 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gamerberg


[12-Feb-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
live in a society


[12-Feb-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
bottom text


[12-Feb-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
clown emoji


[12-Feb-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
GRU /pol/


[12-Feb-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Pretty sure that makes him more popular with white boomers
"Finally, a candidate we can relate!"


[12-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah and also Trump praised this before


[12-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
actually yeah.


[12-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
this makes him winnable.


[12-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/new_hampshire_democratic_primary_results.html Will be hours before full, but still

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RealClearPolitics - New Hampshire Democratic Primary - February 11th 2020 - Live Results
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[12-Feb-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/new-hampshire-primary-2020/

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New Hampshire Primary: Live Updates And Results
Latest updates and results from the 2020 New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, Feb. 11.
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[12-Feb-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders voting better than polled


[12-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why isn't every state just a primary


[12-Feb-20 02:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because states' rights


[12-Feb-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610

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[12-Feb-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
"a bit better"


[12-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who are the nine Kamala Harris voters in NH


[12-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yang has dropped out of the race.


[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yang made a smart play


[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Angling for a cabinet position regardless of who wins.


[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/andrew-yang-ends-2020-presidential-campaign/

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Andrew Yang to suspend 2020 presidential campaign
Andrew Yang plans to announce he is suspending his presidential campaign during a speech Tuesday night in New Hampshire, two sources tell CNN.
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[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Yang out


[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
According to 538 he brought up the possibility of VP unprompted (for that specifically)


[12-Feb-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yang did right everything Pete did wrong


[12-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He might've been looking to be Warren's VP


[12-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But she's way behind.


[12-Feb-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thoughts on a Sanders/Yang teamup?


[12-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely, and probably not what Sanders wants.


[12-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders/Warren is possible if she stops being a lying bitch etc.


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
who will Sanders's VP be then


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Honahue#0656
I think warren burnt that bridge already


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want Abrams


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
rip Yang


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sanders/Williamson 2020


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either Abrams or a moderate who stays quiet


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Honahue#0656
CLEAN CHAKRAS FOR PRESIDENT


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yang got out before he had anything really big to scuttle him


[12-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders/Brown


[12-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's vying for a cabinet position


[12-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[12-Feb-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the hell happened with klobuchar


[12-Feb-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing, is what happened


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders/Williamson would be amazing.


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President Pokemon


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Honahue#0656
Styers gonna get a cabinet position then lead a coup against Bernie for being "too liberal"


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders: "you're fired"


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just literally call Republicans demons


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer actually mostly agrees with Bernie, bizarrely.


[12-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Honahue#0656
that's what I mean though, he's gonna move left of Bernie


[12-Feb-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't follow


[12-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Honahue#0656
unlikely but it's funny to me


[12-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Honahue#0656
liberalism and more specifically neoliberalism describes everyone in the US government


[12-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Honahue#0656
AOC and friends are only barely not liberals


[12-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Honahue#0656
and they are liberals compared to actual socialists who basically don't exist in a politically meaningful way in the US


[12-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Williamson's only real notable moment in the debates btw, was when she basically described Republicans as The It from A Wrinkle in Time.


[12-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Honahue#0656
Williamston was meme'd into the debates by Chapo Trap House


[12-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know who Bernie would pick


[12-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Williamson is a good second woman since Klobuchar and Warren are massive liars.


[12-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is still possible if she stops trying to slander Bernie tho.


[12-Feb-20 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
Is that screenshot of "internim president of Venezuela" Guiado or whatever his name is looking up AOC and laughing and saying what back home that's just soc dem real?


[12-Feb-20 02:20 AM] ononim#8141
Because it's funniest thing I've seen in a week


[12-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
new cabinet position for Williamson Secretary of Vibes


[12-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Klobuchar is the name of a fake Pokemon in a Pokemon ripoff, prove me wrong


[12-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Honahue#0656
I still think she's wasting the best campaign slogan ever


[12-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking it's spelled wrong.


[12-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Honahue#0656
it's Kloberin' Time


[12-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pokemon never gets phonetics wrong like this.


[12-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobbuchar.


[12-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar isn't like that, Honahue.


[12-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
She has the highest success rate in the Senate right now.


[12-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, she knows how to make things just conservative enuff for Republicans to bite.


[12-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/andrew-yang-drops-out-of-2020-presidential-race

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Andrew Yang drops out of 2020 presidential race
The 45-year-old entrepreneur and first time presidential candidate had hoped his signature idea of giving every American adult a universal basic income of $1,000 a month would help lift him to the White House. However, while campaigning in the second state to vote in the presi...
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[12-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yang out


[12-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait wtf


[12-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Its said the same two words as i did


[12-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No that was byte.


[12-Feb-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[12-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weld somehow is getting like 10% primary vote so far


[12-Feb-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/10/chuck_todd_cites_quote_calling_sanders_supporters_digital_brownshirt_brigade.html

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Chuck Todd Cites Quote Calling Sanders Supporters "Digital Brownshi...
NBC News' Chuck Todd compared the intensity of President Donald Trump's supporters to Sen. Bernie Sanders and read an article that compared the Democratic presidential candidate's supporters to a "digital brownshirt brigade." The MSNBC panel Todd hosted complained about the tr...
https://assets.realclear.com/images/50/501244.jpg


[12-Feb-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"oh no, how could our constant mocking and downplaying of sanders achievements earn us backlash! Clearly it is the bernie people who are wrong!"


[12-Feb-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bennet's out.


[12-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Him dropping out will be the first news he was ever in most people will hear about


[12-Feb-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden won't get any delegates from NH


[12-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is he really hanging on for SC


[12-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What does that get him?


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's looking increasingly like SC will just go full Bernie


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing.


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's campaign is basically hinging on Bernie being just shy of a majority at this point


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gabbard needs to go next.


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
and superdelegates coming in to hand him the win as a result.


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
drop out already


[12-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Biden's plan is


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
get a third of the delegates needed to win


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
more than Pete or Warren, but half of Bernie's


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
then call upon the superdelegates to just corruption things


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and hope Bloomberg hasn't caught up.


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He will.


[12-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is, if Sanders gets a majority, superdelegates don't come into play.


[12-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't 2016 rules.


[12-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under 2016 rules, Biden would've basically just won.


[12-Feb-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it is only projected sanders will get a majority, and whether he will at this point is a coin toss


[12-Feb-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
here's hoping


[12-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated note, and late but I just found this

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[12-Feb-20 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf is this


[12-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>people don't take off their boots when inside a domicile


[12-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe this artist was upset that Yang was being underestimated


[12-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americlaps, man.


[12-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I never believed the meme until I was on a plane and people actually did clap after the landing.


[12-Feb-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
morons


[12-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There're always a few people clapping in any flight I'm on when there's turbulence in the ~30m before landing


[12-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guessing mostly first time fliers or the like


[12-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clapping in cinemas is what gets me


[12-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
gotta let the projector operator know you appreciate his work :D


[12-Feb-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
betting odds are 90% on sanders


[12-Feb-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/jussie-smollett-indicted-by-special-prosecutor-in-chicago-source-says

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Jussie Smollett accused of lying to CPD, indicted on 6 counts of di...
In a story FOX 32 News broke first, former “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett was indicted Tuesday in Chicago by special prosecutor Dan Webb, stemming from the alleged racist and anti-gay attack on him that occurred in January of 2019.
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[12-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
50% reporting


[12-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders 27%
Buttplug 23%


[12-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Honahue#0656
lot harder to rig an election when they don't use weird math and use a shady app


[12-Feb-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
buttplug could still get it


[12-Feb-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
don't get too cocky


[12-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYT is projecting it to be close, very close.


[12-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://newrepublic.com/article/154618/new-american-homeless-housing-insecurity-richest-cities

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The New American Homeless
Housing insecurity in the nation’s richest cities is far worse than government statistics claim. Just ask the Goodmans.
https://images.newrepublic.com/f6792d3a21f286ab4048e2377e8a6d367267386d.jpeg?w=1024&h=512&crop=faces&fit=crop&fm=jpg


[12-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
(old)


[12-Feb-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
> Brian Gilmore, the director of Michigan State College of Law’s Housing Clinic, describes an eviction as “the civil equivalent of capital punishment,” leading tenants to “lose not only their housing but also their independence and dignity, often becoming isolated and hopeless.” Suddenly lacking a fixed address, they double up with friends or relatives, move between shelters and cheap motels, or stay in one of the “safe parking lots” that cities have started opening for their newly displaced residents.


[12-Feb-20 03:48 AM] illumnious#7938
welcome to America


[12-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
richest third world country


[12-Feb-20 03:48 AM] illumnious#7938
yeah right


[12-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This just in: Warren announces she's the only Asian-American left in race


[12-Feb-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders 26%
Buttplug 24%


[12-Feb-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
:oof:
:oof2:


[12-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482691-biden-we-need-to-hear-from-nevada-and-south-carolina-in-democratic-primary

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Biden: 'We need to hear from Nevada and South Carolina' in Democrat...
Former Vice President Joe Biden brushed off lackluster early returns in the New Hampshire presidential primary on Tuesday, saying that it was time to look at more diverse states like Nevada and South Carolina for guidance in the Democratic nominat
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_013020gn11_lead.jpg


[12-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, you don't.


[12-Feb-20 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think he just wants a state where he polls higher than mayor cheat


[12-Feb-20 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's not going to *get* it, but that's what he's waiting for


[12-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and Pete are going down in SC I think


[12-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's just them vs. Bernie there, and they split each other's votes.


[12-Feb-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"more diverse"


[12-Feb-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If i'm not mistaken Nevada's gonna skew towards Bernie due to the Hispanic vote


[12-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And union


[12-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm kind of suprised the socialistic policies are divisive by racial lines.


[12-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Long history of it.


[12-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of the reason socialism never really took off in the US.


[12-Feb-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
racial and class lines


[12-Feb-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what especially didnt help unions taking off was mafia style violence against them by companies who didnt want to follow their rules


[12-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is legitimately barely beating "more candidates"


[12-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Random quote


[12-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If you go around saying that Mondale would be a great president, you would be a liar and a hypocrite."- Bernie Sanders, 1984


[12-Feb-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So apparently TIL Amy Klobuchar's surname is of Slovenian origin


[12-Feb-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Makes some more sense because i was trying to fit it into German or French and it wasn't working


[12-Feb-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> “safe parking lots” that cities have started opening for their newly displaced residents
I'm reminded of this
https://jalopnik.com/google-software-engineer-lives-in-a-van-to-avoid-san-fr-1737619550

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Google Software Engineer Lives In A Van To Avoid San Francisco Rent
An educated full-time employee of a extremely high-paying company would rather live in a ten-year-old van in his office parking lot than pay San Francisco rent. How’s your apartment hunt going?
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[12-Feb-20 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl sleeping in a car doesn't feel too much worse than sleeping in a shoddy apartment


[12-Feb-20 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To me, that is


[12-Feb-20 04:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 ikr? cars make me go :sleep:


[12-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably appeared on several sites as a lifehack or "heart warming story"


[12-Feb-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This google employee was provided a home by google themselves in the form of a van!"


[12-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And even in Berlin now I'm seeing people working in software engineer jobs spending over 6 months living in hostels or company apartments (with garnished wages) trying to find an apartment


[12-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And "finding an apartment" these days boils down to "someone died of old age and I got in the 15 minute window the place was advertised for to get a viewing with 30 other people so one of us could be the lucky winner of a 30m2 hole in the wall going for 1200 euro a month"


[12-Feb-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
73% reporting
Sanders 26%
Buttplug 24%


[12-Feb-20 04:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
focus less on the percent gap and more on the strict numbers gap


[12-Feb-20 04:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
every time you check the difference is around 4k voters


[12-Feb-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/388221631920865280/676995059597705216/7ncyztxg37a21.png

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[12-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Litrojia#0612
was around 5k a lil while ago


[12-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Litrojia#0612
with the current trend, I think this result will hold


[12-Feb-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
82% reporting, numbers holding steady


[12-Feb-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
betting odds 95% sanders


[12-Feb-20 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/364525904669442049/676954962999377931/4cec8ce.png

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[12-Feb-20 05:06 AM] illumnious#7938
fuck https://nypost.com/2020/02/09/man-charged-with-crashing-car-into-trump-voter-registration-at-florida-shopping-center/amp/

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Man charged with crashing car into Trump voter registration at Flor...
Gregory Timm, 27, also reportedly flipped the bird at Trump campaign volunteers.
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[12-Feb-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1227440624586149892

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Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk)
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1227440624586149892
Sanders won more voters under 30 years old in New Hampshire than all of the other candidates *combined* according to @CNN exit polls.
Twitter


[12-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482580-sanders-wins-new-hampshire-primary

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Sanders wins New Hampshire primary
MANCHESTER, N.H. — Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) won the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night, delivering a victory for his campaign after a muddled result in Iowa that produced no clear winner.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersb_02032020getty.jpg


[12-Feb-20 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm late


[12-Feb-20 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
I was going to post the same thing but from a different news article


[12-Feb-20 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-wins-new-hampshire-primary-making-him-the-frontrunner-2020-2?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire primary, making him the new natio...
Sen. Bernie Sanders was projected to win the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night with 26% of the vote as of 11 pm ET.
https://i.insider.com/5e4366a24b661b604c4a09f4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Feb-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1227447445115801600

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The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow)
https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1227447445115801600
BREAKING: DNC revises platform to recategorize New Hampshire as "non-state territory" after Bernie Sanders wins primary
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[12-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Honahue#0656

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[12-Feb-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/pCnEAH5wCzo

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EmberNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo
Solidarity Forever (Pete Seeger)
This is a worker's anthem by Pete Seeger. Thank you for watching comrades!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pCnEAH5wCzo/hqdefault.jpg


[12-Feb-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
I feel like I can let out a breath of fresh air now


[12-Feb-20 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now onto Nevada I think


[12-Feb-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Feb-20 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/482569-senate-gop-blocks-three-election-security-bills

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Senate GOP blocks three election security bills
Senate Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to unanimously pass three election security-related bills Tuesday, marking the latest attempt to clear legislation ahead of the November elections
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blackburnmarsha_051419gn_lead.jpg


[12-Feb-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
still 26/24


[12-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah. Block legislations then claim the elections are unconstitutional.


[12-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, and now for an educational question. Who's Klobuchar (besides a female democrat aspiritng nominee) and how did she earn  'President Pokemon' monicker and general 'Jeb!' attitude?


[12-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just made it up because her name sounds like a Pokemon.


[12-Feb-20 05:40 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend

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[12-Feb-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congratulations! your klobochur evolved into klobojeb!


[12-Feb-20 05:50 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean Yang is the Twitter candidate


[12-Feb-20 05:52 AM] illumnious#7938
yang 2024


[12-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
cabinet position


[12-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent she's a Dem Senator, who has the highest percent of passed bills among all Senators.


[12-Feb-20 06:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/justin-welby-church-of-england-windrush-racism-christianity-a9330606.html

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Church of England 'deeply institutionally racist', admits Archbisho...
‘I’m ashamed of our history and our failure’, Justin Welby says
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/11/21/justin-welby.jpg


[12-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQhJ7YgXYAI575_.jpg:orig

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[12-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie so she's not at all bad is what you're saying.


[12-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just 53% bad.


[12-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
productive, at least, and capable of the miracle of bipartizan effort.


[12-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I think anyone who defends the current system and thinks it isn't fundamentally broken is not someone I want to vote for


[12-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't see a Trump option on that chart. lol


[12-Feb-20 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"are immigrants people?"
"no" -> trump


[12-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
oh wait


[12-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
never mind then


[12-Feb-20 06:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
lol


[12-Feb-20 06:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
byte where would that spreadsheet have led you


[12-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders


[12-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
you?


[12-Feb-20 06:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it depends (could have been 3)
if I said qualifications were irrelevant, Yang
if I said "well technically America's still a superpower" then it would have led to ~~buttplug~~ Buttigieg
other than that it would have led to Bernie


[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and the reason I bring up these diverging paths is because I'm not a clear yes/no on them


[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
The system is fucked


[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/6BmbvTvFQ3g

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[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm done with reform


[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
It's time for revolution


[12-Feb-20 06:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
America is a superpower (it's very influential in the world stage in most aspects) but it's one with clear fucking problems soooo


[12-Feb-20 06:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also to me qualifications almost feels synonymous with "has become entrenched in politics", which has any variety of connotations


[12-Feb-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
qualifications to me meant "do you actually know anything"


[12-Feb-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
not political pedigree per se


[12-Feb-20 06:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh so we have different definitions of qualifications


[12-Feb-20 06:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was thinking of it as political experience


[12-Feb-20 06:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's a double-edged sword for me:
someone who has political experience tends to know more about how to push to get things done
but at the same time, they become more adept at lying and manipulation and saying what people want to hear


[12-Feb-20 06:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but by your definition of qualifications, oh yeah, they absolutely matter lmao


[12-Feb-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
and by great, I interpret it in the "life is good" sense


[12-Feb-20 06:48 AM] byte[]#2610
As in MAGA or KAG


[12-Feb-20 06:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What PDF rotation has to so with politics?


[12-Feb-20 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden is tech illiterate


[12-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So it wasn't his streams on twitch?


[12-Feb-20 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, this is the guy who promoted an entire suite of things to reach the latino/latina community *before he'd even registered them* and the Trump campaign snatched them up and turned them into smear pages


[12-Feb-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
by things he means domains


[12-Feb-20 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty sure there was a facebook page too


[12-Feb-20 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's why I wasn't that specific


[12-Feb-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it would have helped clarify


[12-Feb-20 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Clarity is not my strongest whatever


[12-Feb-20 07:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:D


[12-Feb-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
about as clear as milk


[12-Feb-20 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-jokingly-calls-new-hampshire-voter-lying-dog-faced-pony-n1133246

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[12-Feb-20 07:56 AM] byte[]#2610
obligatory onion article <https://politics.theonion.com/you-re-a-piece-of-shit-and-i-hope-everyone-like-you-di-1841363666>


[12-Feb-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Feb-20 10:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/482655-doj-lawyers-resign-en-masse-over-roger-stone-sentencing

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[12-Feb-20 10:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/482634-doj-asks-for-far-less-than-seven-to-nin-years-for-roger-stone

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The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Tuesday asked a federal court to sentence longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone to "far less" than the seven to nine years in prison that it recommended just a day earlier, a controversial move that is sparking ques
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[12-Feb-20 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BidenInsultBot

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[12-Feb-20 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[12-Feb-20 11:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hints-that-vindman-may-face-disciplinary-action-from-pentagon

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President Trump on Tuesday suggested that the Pentagon should review the conduct of a former White House national security aide who played a central role in the Democrats’ impeachment case and potentially consider disciplinary action against him.
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[12-Feb-20 12:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-budget-mcconnell/u-s-senate-probably-cant-reach-a-budget-agreement-with-house-mcconnell-idUSKBN2052ID

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U.S. Senate probably can't reach a budget agreement with House: McC...
U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday he does not think ...
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[12-Feb-20 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Poor poor McConnell, having to deal with those meany democrats :<


[12-Feb-20 12:16 PM] Midknight#9798
I know. What kind of politician just goes against everything they claimed to stand for, all in the name of sticking it to the other party?


[12-Feb-20 12:16 PM] Midknight#9798
Oh wait...


[12-Feb-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/482660-dems-pick-up-new-gop-support-to-rein-in-trumps-iran-war-powers

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Dems pick up new GOP support to rein in Trump's Iran war powers
Democrats picked up another GOP vote ahead of a showdown on President Trump's ability to take military action against Iran without congressional signoff.
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[12-Feb-20 01:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.li/VteUX

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Who Won in New Hampshire? Not the Establishment - The New York Times
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[12-Feb-20 01:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> For many Democrats, recent weeks have been pocked with reminders of a primary that could have been. After a midterm triumph that owed heavily to the success of female and nonwhite candidates, the contest has instead been dictated often by white men, including a few in their 70s.
:depressed:


[12-Feb-20 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://archive.li/qCWZZ

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Opinion | Paging Michael Bloomberg - The New York Times
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[12-Feb-20 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally unbiased criticism of Sanders and exaltation of Bloomberg by someone that totally isn't a millionaire and literally on Bloomberg's payroll


[12-Feb-20 02:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sorry, billionaire, he also wed into riches


[12-Feb-20 02:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[12-Feb-20 02:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Wouldn't you need a passport though?


[12-Feb-20 02:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well actually if you are entering Ireland you would still


[12-Feb-20 03:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Feb-20 03:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/1000hz/status/1227593049968168963

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DNC: we need to get young people engaged in politics!

[young people turn out to vote overwhelmingly in favor of bernie sanders]

DNC: no not like that
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[12-Feb-20 03:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/ 538 has put Sanders odds of getting the nomination down to 37% again

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[12-Feb-20 03:13 PM] byte[]#2610
not good odds at all


[12-Feb-20 03:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/associatesmind/status/1227241882012401664

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"This hypocrisy will not be blessed, at least by this order."

Judge Alsup laying it down on @DoorDash, forced to individually arbitrate 5000+ cases. 

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[12-Feb-20 04:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1227577227899998210

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Locals opning fire at US military vehciles in Khirbat Amo in northern al-Hasakah today. Earlier US forces hadkilled a 14 year old teenager from the town. https://t.co/fTA5NxrCMr
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[12-Feb-20 04:25 PM] ononim#8141
>they killed him because he was trying to take down US flag


[12-Feb-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
See if I take down a US flag the police won't put me out of my misery


[12-Feb-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
How come they get special treatment


[12-Feb-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Feb-20 05:19 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] try wearing a blackface or "ethnic" hat :V


[12-Feb-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
:V


[12-Feb-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/1227440442549112832?s=19

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Winning was a huge blow to Sanders tonight. Buttigieg lost, which is clearly a win for him, especially losing to Sanders, to whom he's lost twice now, making Sanders' win even more disappointing. Team Sanders needs a big loss to win next time
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[12-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought this guy was a Warren fan but no

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[12-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg.

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[12-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a Boomer contrarian movie reviewer so it's not unexpected.


[12-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're about a decade too early to ride the "urbanites are oppressed" train sparky


[12-Feb-20 07:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well if it makes it easier to mass dose the bougies on LSD by breaking into the New York water supply then I'm game. :raep:


[12-Feb-20 07:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
PARODY


[12-Feb-20 07:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
PARODY


[12-Feb-20 07:05 PM] illumnious#7938
What's happened to Warren, Biden? Dismal showings and questions about the future. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/what-s-happened-warren-biden-dismal-showings-questions-about-future-n1135516

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What's happened to Warren, Biden? Dismal showings and questions abo...
Once national front-runners in the Democratic campaign, they were set back by New Hampshire's primary.
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[12-Feb-20 07:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1227585168505962497?s=21

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Florida man who drove van into GOP voter tent said it was because he "does not like" Trump https://t.co/FRGTF223qG
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[12-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So why exactly is 538's model no longer putting Sanders so high?


[12-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden may still win SC but he's been consistently dropping.


[12-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, somehow their model is showing Biden rising after NH


[12-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brokered convention is seemingly inevitable


[12-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless Warren drops out in like a month and supports Sanders


[12-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, I think Super Tuesday is gonna be a Bernie landslide, and that'd be what puts Warren out.


[12-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Bloomberg if he doesn't do as well as hoped.


[12-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Biden needs to drop.


[12-Feb-20 07:40 PM] ononim#8141
No


[12-Feb-20 07:40 PM] ononim#8141
Let him split Buttcia voye


[12-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg isn't getting that much anyways.


[12-Feb-20 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Buttigieg is getting way more than I'm comfortable with


[12-Feb-20 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
He's eating away at Sanders' margin badly


[12-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are Buttigieg's best two states


[12-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
if all he can do is tie, that's a problem for him.


[12-Feb-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg has a severe problem with minority voters


[12-Feb-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
He also has a severe problem on the healthcare issue.


[12-Feb-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nevada and SC will hav him probably not get any delegates.


[12-Feb-20 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482770-bloomberg-has-spent-1-million-a-day-on-facebook-ads-in-last-two-weeks

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Bloomberg has spent $1 million a day on Facebook ads in past two we...
Democratic presidential hopeful Mike Bloomberg has outpaced President Trump on social media advertising in the 2020 campaign cycle, particularly over the past two weeks when the former New York City mayor average
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[12-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
well, he bought everything he could in life, now the presidency remains as the only real milestone.


[12-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I still don't know what Pete's platform is other than "exist"


[12-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most candidates have a signature thing they're going for


[12-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
be gay.


[12-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
be young.


[12-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
be techbro-friendly


[12-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
and big business-friendly in general


[12-Feb-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
he took be gay do crimes literally


[12-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
someone had to


[12-Feb-20 08:14 PM] Honahue#0656

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[12-Feb-20 08:16 PM] jlun2#8758
I never heard of that until now


[12-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brother-osu-whistle-blower-said-rep-jim-jordan-asked-support-n1135321

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Adam DiSabato told lawmakers Jordan was 'crying' and 'groveling' when he called, “begging me to go against my brother.”
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[12-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete's platform is "yeah I totally understand the racism problem" as he instructs the police on which "problematic youths" should be arrested.


[12-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
(hint: the blakk ones)


[12-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wants to sell Boomers on the idea that he will redline things just like the 50s and everything will be great because of it.


[12-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas Biden's whole spiel is "well there are problems with trying to solve racial issues like uh............"


[12-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in contrast to Biden's inept passiveness and desire to find "unity" in ignoring the plight of the downtrodden together with Republicans, Pete offers some real change to improve property values by removing all undesirable races thru the weapons of housing authorities.


[12-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, minorities see right thru Pete. Biden carries hope for them cause *Obama* plus Biden could do slow progress and compromise that many minorities feel is the only way they can get anything with Republicans around.


[12-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/education/482644-free-college-wont-revive-the-liberal-arts

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Free college won't revive the liberal arts
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[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let me guess


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
can we stop with the major shaming BS


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
"people need to be told they can't actually get a job doing anything but factory work"


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thus, making college free would not only fail to solve the problem; it would also exacerbate it. Removing the cost will drive a wedge between the costs and benefits of pursuing education in different fields.

If we want to have a revival within the liberal arts, universities need to be transparent and upfront with students about their earnings and career prospects under different degree paths."


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then using that as a smokescreen to actually say "NO FREE COLLEGE"


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is all a part of a long term plan to drive down STEM career quality


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Think about it


[12-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You denigrate liberal arts


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
flood it with liberal arts people


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Force everyone into STEM


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have tons of people who are low skilled


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Train everyone to be an engineer, hav an entire country of out of work engineers


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now jobs at the other end can justify paying less.


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
engineers can be paid pennies.


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[12-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then blame a foreign country for taking American engineer jobs.


[12-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'd sooner see advances in Vo-Tec.
There aren't any welders, masons, plumbers, electricians or carpenters left.
A young person entering the Trades could make six figures a year."


[12-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Comment on there


[12-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Boomers are such scum.


[12-Feb-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Free college but it's free no matter how many degrees you want.


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also "entering the Trades"


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that doesn't happen anymore


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Go in for STEM, learn it's trash, go into other field.


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody has the money to just apprentice for years


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
You're wasting time yes, bit not admission costs


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And companies run so much of it and won't hire anyone without tons of experience


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a decade there'll be like no electricians.


[12-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because businesses just don't care if there are.


[12-Feb-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I'm more concerned people all following "entering the trades" then it devalues it like nuts like what college degrees and high school diplomas went through


[12-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Honahue#0656
trades are important but it's also semi seasonal work and relies on new construction a lot


[12-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Honahue#0656
well semi seasonal here, not as much construction happens in winter


[12-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda connected to the whole "drive the skilled labor out" MO of companies


[12-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Animation is like this. The thin-line style is popular because it takes very little skill in comparison to other styles.


[12-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can pay someone a fraction if they just have to draw that and they just got out of art school and really need it so they'll take it


[12-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Honahue#0656
also 3d printing houses might reduce the number of trades you need, fewer carpenters same number of plumbers ans electricians


[12-Feb-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I'm just waiting for all cartoons to be like south part; episodes take a week to make


[12-Feb-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
AI will come before that.


[12-Feb-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I've been hearing about 3d printing hype for a while, but not sure where it is right now


[12-Feb-20 08:44 PM] Honahue#0656
AI cartoons, can't wait for spiderman elsa teeth pregnacy show on Disney+


[12-Feb-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm legitimately amazed no one at Disney ever tried to legitimize Spiderman Elsa


[12-Feb-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They probably considered it.


[12-Feb-20 08:45 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah I don't think it's going to take over tomorrow but it is occuring however slowly


[12-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Honahue#0656
labor tends to be the biggest expense of any business and wages go in the liabilities colomon of an account sheet while equipment goes into the assets part


[12-Feb-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking searching for that gave this lol

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[12-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Honahue#0656
so a 3d printing machine does increase assets and reduce liabilities


[12-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Defending her kingdom against foreign influence.


[12-Feb-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She couldn't let it go.


[12-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
"it" was bullets, actually.


[12-Feb-20 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez, unironic Bloomberg stans exist

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[12-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
```Train everyone to be an engineer, hav an entire country of out of work 
engineers```


[12-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
so late-stage USSR


[12-Feb-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then you move on to the next group of jobs that is high paying and crash those


[12-Feb-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now if we can only get doctors for cheap...


[12-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
you wouldn't like the doctors you get for cheap.


[12-Feb-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
even less than the horrifically overpriced mafia-type you currently have.


[12-Feb-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  googling it gave https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/19/business/dealbook/an-expensive-law-degree-and-no-place-to-use-it.html

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An Expensive Law Degree, and No Place to Use It
Thousands of debt-ridden law school graduates highlight a once unthinkable question: Should their law schools close?
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[12-Feb-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
so maybe soon?


[12-Feb-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
where "soon" be like a decade or two


[12-Feb-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll replace some stuff for sure


[12-Feb-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also a bunch have closed since this was written, which was once, yes, unthinkable


[12-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Important's politician cousin is doing well

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[12-Feb-20 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
Damn, Odyseus is back at it again, huh?


[12-Feb-20 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
Wonder if his hateful comments against Cyclops and Trojans will tank him


[12-Feb-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one thing not mentioned with trades as well is that most of that "6 figure salary" will go right into buying new tools, equipment, and parts. as well as having to pay $500 for the mandatory rule book set, and even more for the textbooks.


[12-Feb-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll still be living in a trailer, but at least you can afford the van and tools!


[12-Feb-20 10:40 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/education-today/news/story/over-80-indian-engineers-are-unemployable-lack-new-age-technology-skills-report-1483222-2019-03-21

googling gave this. rip

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Over 80% Indian engineers are unemployable, lack new-age technology...
A recent employability report has found that over 80 percent of engineers in India are unemployable as they lack the technological skills required by employers now.
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[12-Feb-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you also don't actually gain 6 figures until the company deems you worthy of it, at most you'll make maybe 4 figures


[12-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Followed the guidelines


[12-Feb-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/IaXDizW

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Trump White House: "Best Economy in US History" is experiencing an economic emergency
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[12-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What a convenient opinion to have when half of your company is owned by the CCP!

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[12-Feb-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/u0juzynt8ig41.jpg this person is arguing AGAINST min wage increase

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[12-Feb-20 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
go hard or go homeless! take college jobs with no college degree!


[12-Feb-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Be a degreeless lawyer!


[12-Feb-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
practice HVAC without a shred of knowledge!


[12-Feb-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Electrician is right there! Grab it by the horns without any prior experience!


[12-Feb-20 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The skies the limit as long as you don't have a license to lose in the first place!


[12-Feb-20 10:57 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) then be a boomer and complain the quality is declining and blame the secular, godless libs


[12-Feb-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah the boomers will do that complaining for you as they decrease your wages, and people die en mass from carbon monoxide poisoning


[12-Feb-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But that's ok because you'll have killed yourself long before then because you tried to work on highly dangerous equipmennt with no knowledge of how it works


[12-Feb-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll also have been arrested for falsely impersonating a lawyer


[12-Feb-20 11:08 PM] jlun2#8758
you need a degree to serve ice cream


[12-Feb-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why there was a food truck scare awhile back where food trucks were being run by idiots with no education and hygeine standards, people got really sick


[12-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but they had a degree 😂


[12-Feb-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i took an hvac class, i have an hvac diploma, i should absolutely not be an hvac technician


[12-Feb-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would be better fit into the informational and parts hosue side of the industry


[12-Feb-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) go get that 6 figure salary and start funding your art hobbies


[12-Feb-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
parts house employees dont make 6 figures


[12-Feb-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
they won't arrest you, they'll sue you into the ground and then arrest you


[12-Feb-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point


[12-Feb-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482850-culinary-union-disappointing-to-see-sanders-supporters-attacking-us-over

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Nevada's Culinary Union accused supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) of launching vicious attacks, intensifying a feud over healthcare between a leading Democratic presidential candidate and an influential player in the Nevada caucuses.
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[12-Feb-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482780-trump-urges-senate-to-reject-effort-to-reel-in-his-iran-war-powers

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Trump urges Senate to reject effort to reel in his Iran war powers
President Trump on Wednesday pressed the Senate to vote against a resolution that would rein in his ability to take military action against Iran without congressional approval.
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[12-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the "we fought and won it, so you can't just GIV IT to everybody else" argument on healthcare.


[13-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
These people would be in the apocalypse arguing that it would be unfair to bring education to the remaining survivors because they had to personally fight to steal libraries.


[13-Feb-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaD1DcWfaGA

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Bernie Sanders interviews Punks [1988]
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[13-Feb-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[13-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/andrew-yang-to-suspend-campaign-offer-universal-go-fuck-yourself-to-every-american-citizen/

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Andrew Yang to Suspend Campaign, Offer Universal “Go Fuck Yourself”...
Andrew Yang announced he will be dropping out of the presidential race tonight, but promised to deliver a heaping helping of “go fuck yourself” to every American citizen.
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[13-Feb-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the youtube algorithm got weirdly useful today


[13-Feb-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gave me a follow up video to that interview


[13-Feb-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXirP-QwNrY

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[13-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ex-osu-wrestling-captain-says-jordan-begged-him-to-deny-claims-he-knew-of-sexual-abuse

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Ex-OSU Wrestling Captain Says Jordan Begged Him To Deny Claims He K...
Adam DiSabato, a former captain of Ohio State University’s wrestling team, testified on Wednesday that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) had...
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[13-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
> Adam DiSabato, a former captain of Ohio State University’s wrestling team, testified on Wednesday that Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) had begged him in 2018 to repudiate allegations that the congressman was aware of the former wrestling team doctor’s sexual abuse of the student wrestlers.


[13-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
fake news, everyone.


[13-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
such a convenient term isn't it.


[13-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
you can instaslap it on anything you don't like


[13-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
or don't like to believe


[13-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://d.facdn.net/art/shin0r0z/1581544739/1581544739.shin0r0z_1581306957674.gif

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[13-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874013

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Windy map shows spike in SO2 emissions from Wuhan, possibly signaling increased cremations
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[13-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
I saw a bumper sticker saying "Too Blessed to be Stressed" on it, and I instantly thought "ok boomer" as soon as I was done reading it


[13-Feb-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
let me guess, it's one of Bloomberg's portals writing this?


[13-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Honahue#0656

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[13-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Honahue#0656
they trying so hard to turn wins into losses


[13-Feb-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
porbably


[13-Feb-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/1227440442549112832?s=19

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Winning was a huge blow to Sanders tonight. Buttigieg lost, which is clearly a win for him, especially losing to Sanders, to whom he's lost twice now, making Sanders' win even more disappointing. Team Sanders needs a big loss to win next time
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[13-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there was a dude who just straight up lived at google hq for awhile


[13-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
they didn't have dorms, but he would sleep around in different parts of the place


[13-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
they have gym and laundry too


[13-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
passable.


[13-Feb-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
they could just straight up say 'Sanders 26%, EVERYONE ELSE 74%'


[13-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
clear advantage hmm?


[13-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
when they combine Voltron style Bernie will be in trouble


[13-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm still waiting for Biden to randomly sucker-punch someone at a town hall meeting


[13-Feb-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
modotron activate!


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
... wasn't nicholas executed?


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Wasn't there a movie in the 70s or 80s where a guys rich family died and he got a portion of the money in the will and had to spend every single penny of it to be able to get the rest of the money but every time he tried to spend all of the money he just kept making more money off of the money he spent?


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
he wasn't taxed into poverty


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
he was the one who was taxing people into poverty


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[13-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
and was killed for it


[13-Feb-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard of that movie but it wouldnt surprise me if there was


[13-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brewster's Billions


[13-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Starred Richard Pryor and John Candy


[13-Feb-20 02:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
yea. that's it
https://youtu.be/FosFEzsLKiI

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[13-Feb-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are 7 films titled this and based on the same book


[13-Feb-20 02:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Money just makes more money.


[13-Feb-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
13 films


[13-Feb-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
4 have an original title


[13-Feb-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them are foreign


[13-Feb-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The movie industry loves remakes.


[13-Feb-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first was in 1914


[13-Feb-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sadly the 1914 film is a lost film and as such no one can watch it


[13-Feb-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as is the 1921 film and the 1926 film


[13-Feb-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's kind of sad


[13-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
accidentally lost, by pure coincidence during the Red Scare propaganda wind-up :twiface:


[13-Feb-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably just tossed out by the studios while films were considered a passing fad


[13-Feb-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s a lot of films and tv series that have gone missing just because the studio believed "This product wont be popular and no one will remember it, so let;s destroy it to make space"


[13-Feb-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it happened with the bbc and litterally hundreds of doctor who episodes after they literally burned that shit


[13-Feb-20 02:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What;s with the satire Yang post?


[13-Feb-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was yin in disguise


[13-Feb-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also possible the studios may have gone under and their films were lost to time since back then film distribution rights weren't as snatched up as they are today


[13-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kind of even more sad tbh.


[13-Feb-20 02:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Plenty of directors also destroyed their own works back in the early days of film. kind of like how artists look at their old works and want to get rid of them.
The guy that invented the automatic camera that didn't need a crank destroyed lots of his films after he quit film and began making film cameras.


[13-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it skips being stupid and gets straight into asshole territory


[13-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
As much as people hate Lucas, the thing to remember is he is what you actually want in a director.


[13-Feb-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who isn't afraid to try new things to improve the process and is willing to look at his old work and make a new version rather than just shit all over it.


[13-Feb-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a terrible writer but his attitude is exactly what you need in a director to not burn shit down when anything goes wrong.


[13-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Starwars should have ended a long time ago, Many fans deified the franchise making the OT feel like sacred text or something. They need to let it go


[13-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love it when you randomly find a corporation that controls like 10% of all media consumed in the US and their wiki page is 500 words, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Amusements

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[13-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
cause their owners had the presence of mind not to go into politics


[13-Feb-20 02:40 AM] jlun2#8758
Yang is too ahead of his time; people are afraid of automation, yes, but they're surprisingly confident that thier OWN job won't be automated <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5475263/Most-Americans-believe-AI-destroy-jobs-except-own.html>

Maybe in a decade his ideas will get more attention


[13-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
what is his ideas exactly?


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
give everyone 12k a year?


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it kind of achives nothing by itself


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] jlun2#8758
UBI to offset automation or something


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] jlun2#8758
or at least he keeps mentioning automation job displacement


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem isn't that his ideas are ahead of it's time


[13-Feb-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea was that because automation is becoming mroe common place, people need a source of income so UBI is his idea of that


[13-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem is, this idea achives precious little.


[13-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, it solves partly only one problem of many


[13-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's the best he's got


[13-Feb-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair, most campaign ideas would likely be refined and discussed and built upon after being elected


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude literally any job can be automated


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even the trades


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just a matter of time, and not that much of it


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even hvac is not safe


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Yang isn't radical enough


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
imo


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
UBI is totally safe territory for a democrat


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My main job is narrative writing, and people laught at those twitter bots writing shitposts


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Well, I don't want UBI


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I want UBS


[13-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But they're trained to write shitposts


[13-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bots that can write fucking decent narrative have been around for two decades


[13-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Voice actors thought they were safe


[13-Feb-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i play with one called talk to transfomer all the fucking time


[13-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nope


[13-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Actors thought CGI would never catch up


[13-Feb-20 02:45 AM] jlun2#8758
I would love to have an AI voice actor voicing certain ponies for fan creations.


[13-Feb-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alexa, and siri are already sort of that in that you get a voice actor to make syllable noises for awehile, pay them, then the bot stitches thme togwther to create words and speak to you


[13-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, yeah


[13-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
```Yang isn't radical enough```


[13-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We used google translate to fill placeholder voices


[13-Feb-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yang was basically a moderate with one non moderate idea


[13-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, this is what I was thinking about. If this was 2016 or 2020 sans Trump, yeah this would fly.


[13-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but at this points pretty much everyone is hateful and bitter and tired.


[13-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just experiment with different languages and you can get fair enough character variation and intonation


[13-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's basic shit, not any deepfake stuff if you want something that "sounds good"


[13-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
VAs in a decade are going to be fucked


[13-Feb-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hear hvac techs in press videos talk about how they;re job is immune to automation because of variables... bullshit


[13-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Andrew Yang should have focused on bringing people together he was doing a great job at that. Actually getting on the ground and talking to people.


[13-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Games are gonna have three proper actors, then two actors that have their voices "deepfaked" to fill in for 60 NPCs


[13-Feb-20 02:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) "Jobs will be replaced, but not mine of course; it's just too complicated!"


[13-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Without Oblivion syndrome


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
Oblivion syndrome?


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sally Moon unite under Sanders!


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oblivion had like, everything repeated.


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over and over and over again.


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oblivion was infamous for having like 5 voice actors


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every lizard guy sounded the same.


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For the entire game


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
oh. sorry, google gave <https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Disease> and related pages


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because it did combinatorial stuff for very large NPC dialog sets.


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it had 200 something NPCs with dialogue


[13-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You had to create N^2 voice recordings.


[13-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Err rather


[13-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
`N*M*K`


[13-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
N races, M genders, K lines


[13-Feb-20 02:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Skyrim is also like that. every single nord  and imperial is the same.


[13-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
N was like 6, M 2, and K in the hundreds.


[13-Feb-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The singers are safe from automation!" *gestures vaguely towards vocaloid*


[13-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Skyrim does it differently


[13-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has exclusive lines by race a lot


[13-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If a human can do it, AI can as well


[13-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
50 chimps hammering at a typewriter may produce garbage


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But when they can do it 100 times a minute


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Skyrim also I think reuses things across races outside of Nords


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something good's gonna come out


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be told it that one was good


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it'll improve on it


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, Skyrim dialog is both more varied and less bloated.


[13-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@byte[] I don't know if I can.


[13-Feb-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Why not


[13-Feb-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are even doing fascinating things with automated singing


[13-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HE'S GONNA TAKE AWAY YOUR PRIVATE HEALTHCARE


[13-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie "Actually has consistent beliefs about what's right" Sanders.


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would fucking be a prime tagline in any other country


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the US, for some reason bad


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck private healthcare


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie feels like a Dreamer, someone chasing after clouds.


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so?


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
And Yang isn't


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Lmao


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"But I like overpaying for an inferior service I need to survive!"


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better than corporate mcshits alot


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I think you gotta get your head outta the clouds


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeaaaah Yang had no chance.


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being a first world country that can't even deliver on its immense imperials wealth to give its citizens imperial level quality of life.


[13-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yang should have dropped the UBI thing


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
...no


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
no he shouldn't have


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Even second world nation's donus better


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then he;s be a generic moderate


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
#EgyptGang


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dropping UBI would've just made him like, Warren


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yang ran for long enough to get noticed but not so long he got annoying for still running


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would've gotten even less support.


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man RCP _still_ has betting odds on Clinton jumping in


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too fucking late.


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna back off and just let nebbie do his thing


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yang will probably go on to try for a different political position


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
You should too


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the question here is: What makes a good candidate?


[13-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically long enough to have a future in politics without sullying himself too much


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And that there lies the problem many of the candidates issues are overlapping


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna tell ya right away


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being exactly in the middle on every issue


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
does not make a good candidate.


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would if we were using Approval Voting.


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody uses Approval Voting.


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
@Sally Moon there's limited amount of issues available to be solved. They might be many, but they're limited and will and should overlap


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole "moderate" thing being pushed is abhorrent


[13-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
(even tho it's the best voting system when selecting only one candidate)


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need someone willing to challenge the status quo or your country turns into what we have now


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a start, some issues are like "should we kill jews?"


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The middle option is not okay.


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to be clear, I do not consider "kill half the jews" the middle option if we're talking realistically.


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
There ARE realistic middle options for that


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Nazis started with work camps


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I have a track record of working with my Republican colleagues"


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's not a good thing


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't directly kill the jews, but they worked them hard and didn't feed them very well.


[13-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they slowly died.


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later on they just said fukk it and gassed them.


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can see this in the southern border right now


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
detained migrants are being forced to work in their cells


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and are being not given any urgency when they develop health problems


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
while in REFRIGERATED LIVING CONDITIONS


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
and being fed frozen food.


[13-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not as in "frozen and then microwaved"


[13-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally just "here's a TV dinner, enjoy the ice"


[13-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what moderate policies look like.


[13-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I worked with my racist, wife-beating neighbour to keep the lawns tidy" is not the shining endorsement of your moral fibre you think it is


[13-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You take something abhorrent and you tone it down and you fragment its implementation and you kill people slowly and with less controversy.


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's Obama's greatest failing.


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an attempt to win over conservatives, he took moderate policy positions


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders there are those who think he is going to scare off moderates.


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He ramped up migrant detentions and deportations.


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will, thats a good thing


[13-Feb-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
They'll rally Sanders or they'll vote Trump


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think they're interested in voting for Trump


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In terms of support


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who is perfectly politically "moderate"


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will force them out of the middle and into actually fucking thinking for themselves


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually fence-sitting etc.


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is more likely to support Bernie


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The third option is not voting at all


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
His policies are more popular than Trump's, by a lot


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
The third option is conceding to whoever wins


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking 70% supporting Bernie's policy vs. Trump's often 40%


[13-Feb-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
What makes you think turnout will be bad


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mathematically speaking non-voting means you vote for whoever wins, whomever they are.


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moderates and liberals are madder than ever.


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is a clear favorite among young voters


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hate Trump


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They make up 60% of the electorate.


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
If by non-voting you throw a protest to someone, you are better off solidifying your protest by actually voting


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Iwoa's turn out was below average. It has some worried


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> They make up 60% of the electorate.
If they're young, then rip


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the moderate democratic candidates right now are defected republicans who couldnt compete with trump


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
NH's turnout was larger


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
DO REALIZE


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa is a CAUCUS


[13-Feb-20 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since absentions do not count for anything. If they did anything, every election ever would have been invalid since only a minority of eligible voters have ever voted


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses and elections are DIFFERENT


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a caucus, white people go to a location and stand around for hours arguing


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iowans hate it.


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the caucuses are pointless


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is even harder to do than voting and it tilts things to the upper classes.


[13-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[13-Feb-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s just a way for them to filter shit, that doesnt need filtering so they can maybe impose soem arbitrary bullshit to fudge the numbers


[13-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
the reason Bernie got where he did in Iowa


[13-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
is because he focused on "satellite" caucuses


[13-Feb-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without super delegates, the potency is lost


[13-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in ones held for out of state Iowans etc. who couldn't actually make it in person to the various schools and whatnot.


[13-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, in a situation where things aren't tilted towards rich motherfukkers, Bernie is a clear favorite


[13-Feb-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without super delegates the DNC can't do shit


[13-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates still exist, but now they just deal with things if nobody wins prior to them.


[13-Feb-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly,the rules got changed. biden was counting on them being activated in the NH primary and thye werent


[13-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, a good candidate needs to be able to unite people from a spectrum and get energy, @Sally Moon


[13-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Obama was so much better than Hillary (in his first run)


[13-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had ENERGY


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both of them had broad appeal, but Obama actually seemed to care about fixing shit.


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary's run was MUCH MORE MODERATE AND MUTED


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary seemed to act like she didn't especially care about liberal policy positions.


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many liberals felt disaffected and didn't turn out.


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile moderates saw her and Trump as the same scummy shits.


[13-Feb-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama wasnt just the black guy, he was the guy who genuinely wanted to help people. it got people to rise up and go "That sounds pretty fucking good actually"


[13-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the reason I think Biden is failing is like Hillary he has no ENERGY


[13-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy just muddles his policy and says not to fix anything.


[13-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicare for All comes up and he says "nah don't change the ACA"


[13-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, BITCH WHAT IS YOUR POLICY?


[13-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just advertize "no change"


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to tell us what your actual changes you will make are to be a candidate worth considering.


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden refuses to go over his actual plans, time and time again.


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Now let me tell you, I fought on this issue hard along with Obama..."


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I have to beat Trump, But i can work with republicans"


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Inertia" is not a political strategy to win a primary.


[13-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Yang needed UBI as a position


[13-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was something to stand out and giv people a damn reason to consider him as someone with actual ideas.


[13-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is also I think why Warren is failing


[13-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie weren't around, Warren would be doing well


[13-Feb-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you beat Trump, annd then reach accross the aisle to take mcconnell's hand, then you havent beaten trump


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that Warren's policy positions like Medicare for All are just overshadowed by Bernie


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
This Babs Salt person is giving me crazy deja vu


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Is it the same person who argued Biden needed to win?


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
To win the general?


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If half the field is talking about Medicare for All, it's not something that gets you energy.


[13-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer btw just nods and agrees with Bernie. He's also failing.


[13-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I feel bad for Steyr


[13-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is doing well because he is the perceived policy idea leader.


[13-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has actual ideas he is willing to talk about that are exceptional compared to the rest.


[13-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, nothing he says is wrong, but, Bernie exists


[13-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's tax plan would hav her up there with Pete without Bernie around.


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for Klobuchar, she has energy because she can actually FIGHT in a debate


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't Warren's tax plan have Bezos pay 8 billion dollars in taxes her first year in office


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She can establish that BIden's shitty in a way that isn't directly what Warren is doing.


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar still isn't doing the greatest, because she's a new name and all she does is do debating well, etc.


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
good, he's got 100 billion that's 8% his wealth and barely anything to him


[13-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's not really advertising much change.


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for Pete, he has energy


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
131 billion


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
so less than 8%


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has recent accomplishments as a mayor and he has some policy ideas


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're just not very good ones.


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is far too blatant about his racism.


[13-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
8 years of Warren, he'd have 64 billion


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden for sure is okay with a little racism, but the guy at least has a trakk record of tacitly opposing it.


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete however was a fukking mayor and made the police target blakks


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
still a ton and that's assuming he never makes any money in 8 years


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while claiming he totes understood the system needs reform


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, he "understands"


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just doesn't care.


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He fired their first ever black police chief


[13-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy's the most obvious liar to run.


[13-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Bloomberg has no energy.


[13-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only ads.


[13-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ads provide very temporary energy.


[13-Feb-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg chose to fight through ads when everyone is cutting cable


[13-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has spent more than Trump online


[13-Feb-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kind of lessens the effectiveness and those that watch his ads and do research, quickly find out the ads are total bullshit


[13-Feb-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ad block


[13-Feb-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only real place he;s gaining ad traction is facebook and even then that's a temp boost at best


[13-Feb-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his ads are the political version of a corporate ad jingle, they mean nothing when you really think about them


[13-Feb-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s entirely designed to sell to other corporations


[13-Feb-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s one reason why he would get his ass kicked by trump in a general election, he would only go for corporate appeal


[13-Feb-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile trump gets out there and cults his supporters up and treats them like something special, even if he later rakes them over the coals, in the moment they'll be putty in his hands.


[13-Feb-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile bloomberg will have all the charisma of a wet fart


[13-Feb-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and since both of them refuse to show up to debates, then bloomberg woudl also lose track on platform explanation


[13-Feb-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He can throw burns at Trump all he likes, but in the end burns only go so far and your cult following dwindles when everyone realizes you have no charisma


[13-Feb-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would jsut be a watered down Trump with no cult of personality behind him, and no sleezy smile or sunken cost fallacy to win him followers


[13-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
yes @Nebbie


[13-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
it was the same person


[13-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/669975611401568256


[13-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I figured it was right away but wanted to check


[13-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[13-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
yesterday biden, today yang, tomrrow... buttigieg?


[13-Feb-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tomorrow jeb


[13-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
please clap


[13-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the previous thing with Biden makes more sense now.


[13-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The discussion in general I had with them last night made it clear they aren't good at thinking for themselves or thinking ahead.


[13-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
(super tl;dr was they were thinking of a story idea involving a person basically becoming a mental parasite on their waifu and they seemed to not hav thought it thru very far)


[13-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general I don't recommend choosing political candidates without understand their policy positions...


[13-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let alone just plain choosing them based on who you think others like.


[13-Feb-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I recommend thinking


[13-Feb-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm not an idiot.


[13-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If you think Bernie Sanders has the will to best Trump that is fine.


[13-Feb-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not a matter of will


[13-Feb-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a matter of "can he do it"


[13-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has one of the strongest wills I've seen among any politician.


[13-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has been shouting angrily for longer than most people in this channel hav been alive.


[13-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I'd wager all


[13-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
unless we have 60 year olds in here


[13-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure how Say-nothing Yang and Forget-your-sentence Biden are going to outwill Trump.


[13-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete could do it by sheer force of corruption I guess.


[13-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, I suppose if we count all the way to Bernie protesting then yeah


[13-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has been shouting angrily about how messed up the country is longer than any of us here hav been alive.


[13-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's been fighting to fix it longer than any of us here hav been alive.


[13-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's will breaks if you make fun of his hands.


[13-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie goes on Fox News just to be forceful there actually still upholding his values


[13-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
despite the crowd being against him.


[13-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he doesn't break.


[13-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is use to showmanship, he knows his base can't stand Bernie and it reinvigorate them.


[13-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and?


[13-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's base hates everyone left of Trump.


[13-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giving them an easy target like Biden just makes Trump's job easier.


[13-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden reeks of corruption, is slathered in Obamaness, and can barely keep his sentences straight.


[13-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump doesn't go after Bernie because he doesn't view Bernie as a threat.


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He fears Biden


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider this


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
would you rather hav a non-feared entity that then burns the house down to destroy a house or


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
a feared entity that is not even allowed in?


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
which is why he went to such extremes to tarnish his rivals reputation


[13-Feb-20 03:54 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon Well, Americans are still afraid of this:

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[13-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you believe Trump fearing Biden is a good aspect of Biden, then I think you hav your wires crossed


[13-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
you shouldn't be listening to Trump for what Democrat is actually capable of beating Trump.


[13-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Because Trump isn't really that good at political strategy as a person)


[13-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it's why he suffers regular defeats in legislative change)


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I do not have my wires crossed. Donald Trump went as far as getting impeached just to throw mud at Biden


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That says something about Trump and nothing about Biden


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That tells you something


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
other than the mud hav been thrown and Biden is struggling with it.


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are using very incorrect reasoning here.


[13-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is not a good judge of electability.


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking him to be one and then ignoring what the actual votes say is...not a good approach.


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Desperation is a sign of weakness.


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump went after biden because he assumed biden would be nominated, it says nothing about biden's ability to get nominated


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't show Trump is specifically weak to Biden


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
bye, then


[13-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just that he's weak in general.


[13-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he did actual damage to Biden


[13-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which shows weakness on Biden's part.


[13-Feb-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he;s anchored on biden because he made that bed, now the GOP has to lay in it


[13-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's behavior in 2016 btw indicated he thought Bernie was a strong contender.


[13-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, it was sympathy rather than hatred, he was basically saying YOU ARE LIKE ME YOU SHOULD RUN, but nonetheless he seemed to think Bernie had a shot.


[13-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That was just fluff.


[13-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that may be a great weakness in Trump vs. Bernie


[13-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Trump is praising Bernie then he's not slandering Bernie


[13-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he is slandering Bernie, he looks two-faced.


[13-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump wants to go up against Bernie


[13-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In both cases, Trump loses face in the fight.


[13-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't know that a fight with Bernie would be harder than a fight with Biden.


[13-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders is the perfect boogeyman Trump and the GOP have been crying about for years


[13-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's not tho, Biden is


[13-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The perfect boogeyman has to be corrupt


[13-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's ties to overseas companies do that for them


[13-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie doesn't hav those


[13-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's image is too clean, he can't be easily made into a boogeyman from it.


[13-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they hav to go on is "SOCIALISM!!!!!111"


[13-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
which isn't very ideal when young people no longer care.


[13-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders his stances would be difficult for him to defend when Trump is going down on him.


[13-Feb-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie sanders stances would be amazingly easy to defend


[13-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has stances that are now popular and hav been the same for over 30 years


[13-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're incredibly easy to defend when people actually know what they are.


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sticks to them, they are byt he people for the people, and not for the corporations


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
All Trump has to do is say how Bernie wants to give people free stuff, talk about no boarders and other crazy things


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
he has been


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it hasn't worked


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne bernie can explain his policies in detail


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
His base will eat it up


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we all know thye arent free


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's free stuff is incredibly popular now btw


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumps base is a cult


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are not happy about massive student loan debt


[13-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and empty degree promises.


[13-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
58% of Iowa caucusgoers said they wanted single-payer healthcare.


[13-Feb-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumps base would eat literal shit if it came out of Trumps own anus


[13-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Bernie got the votes he did in Iowa.


[13-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Bernie doesn't like just immediately go NOBORDERS NOBORDERSNOBORDERS


[13-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's actually a current US Senator you know


[13-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
who has actually voted on bills


[13-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It may be popular now but Trump is going to use his polices against him. Talking about the "cost" and how it will "kill this great economy"


[13-Feb-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Bernie sanders also has a youtube channel laying out most of his detailed explanations


[13-Feb-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, and only his followers beleive that bullshit


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> They're incredibly easy to defend when people actually know what they are.
I thought most voters were uninformed tho


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would it become less popular?


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which again would eat a turd sandwich if trump offered it tot hem


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has gone over the cost


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it costs LESS


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is going to have a field day with Bernie its going to be sad to watch


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, if you look at spending per capita


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
we already pay as much as the UK does publicly


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but we pay that much AGAIN for private


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are paying double.


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
DOUBLE


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie correct, but the voters are like "hur hur hur the ad says it will kill jobs"


[13-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is OFFERING YOU HALF THE PAY FOR BETTER CARE


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you think this is going to HURT him?


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Offering to slash people's overall bills in fukking half.


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
jawbs


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people rallying behind bernie are already in job trouble


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It will hurt him because Fox and other outlets wil run the numbers


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
(seriously though I hope american doctors get replaced by robots)


[13-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The numbers hav been run


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they know jobs are in the toilet


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they show it would cut it in fukking half


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think the numbers would hurt Bernie?


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump relies on people NOT knowing the numbers.


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He relies on people believing we AREN'T paying double for care.


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] jlun2#8758
> Trump relies on people NOT knowing the numbers.
so most boomers basically


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Serious analysis of how much we are paying does not benefit Trump.


[13-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It hurts his position **massively**.


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because we hav actual other countries to look at and how their systems that are just like what Bernie wants work.


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when it comes to debate time


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has had to pay off farmers because he almost murdered their entire business via trade war


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the questions get into the nitty gritty


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and cable news networks are running the numbers


[13-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump *loses* support.


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds wildly optimistic on trump supporters looking at facts, but hope you're right


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I tell you what, no matter what happens


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not Trump supporters


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
independents.


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would swing to Bernie.


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither side's base actually swings.


[13-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In 2024 I'm looking forward to truly pathetic presidential runs by Trump's top bootlickers


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who become neo-Jebs when the GOP picks Ivanka or Jr.


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it'll collapse when Trump's out.


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jared is for sure going to jail when Trump's out.


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way yeah


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things would unravel from there.


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just imagining Gym Jordan or Devin "Cow" Nunes running for president


[13-Feb-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the GOP will probably hit a burning purge as they start turning on eachother as well to stay out of prison


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And doing the "If I ape Trump it works" schtick


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's Bernie in office, it's very likely that the GOP will catch fire.


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was a thing some of the GOP did for a while


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like imagine Trump's entire current cabinet all going to jail in 2022


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ape Trump's mannerisms


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It doesn't win you anything.


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
I just want Christian Right to stop taking over churches


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And think about what that would mean for the elections.


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
and politics


[13-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
2022 elections come up and the story is that like half the prominent GOP people from years past are in jail or facing charges.


[13-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I can only hope someone can topple Trump


[13-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nunes btw is under investigation.


[13-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or actually, not under investigation yet, dang.


[13-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He should be soon tho.


[13-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had some kind of critical role in the Ukraine scandal.


[13-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
hoping Bernie can get Manning out of jail


[13-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/new-evidence-shows-nunes-aide-communicated-parnas-ukraine-n1118251

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New evidence shows Nunes aide communicated with Parnas on Ukraine
The messages show that Derek Harvey, an aide to GOP Rep. Devin Nunes, was far more involved than previously known in an investigation.
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[13-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
After what happened with Rodger Stone I feel Nunes will get a lighter sentence if he gets convicted no one trusts Barr.


[13-Feb-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would sentencing of roger stone play any part in sentencing of nunes?


[13-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Total interference in judicial and legal independence


[13-Feb-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/482811-judge-denies-roger-stone-request-for-new-trial

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Judge denies Roger Stone's request for new trial
A federal judge denied Roger Stone's request for a new trial, a court filing unsealed on Wednesday revealed.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/stoneroger_031419sr2_lead.jpg


[13-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any prosecutor anywhere who was subject to those tweets would resign.


[13-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It makes people think that Trump will just get away with it. Administration is pretty reckless.


[13-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's giving so much power to any future Democratic president.


[13-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They will not hesitate to wield it.


[13-Feb-20 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, every rig the GOP sets up for it;s self is going to be a double edged sword


[13-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems did this with judicial appointment requirements


[13-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just wait until they pull a sneaky and have a rotating/lottery-based Supreme Court.


[13-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is


[13-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make every single district judge plus an associate justice (include current SCOTUS)


[13-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Throw all the names in a hat


[13-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pick nine. They decide a case.


[13-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That doesn't sound very proper


[13-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an exaggeration, but a lottery system is basically the goal


[13-Feb-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the idea is that you wouldn't be able to stack it with any one party, it would be a randomized configuration every time


[13-Feb-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless i;m misreading this


[13-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the goal, yes


[13-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC, Pete's plan calls for adding one presidential appointee


[13-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then five more, who get chosen by those ten.


[13-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would basically ensure only moderates would ever decide things.


[13-Feb-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i woudl rather have independants decide things than moderates


[13-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue who would pick a tie if the justices deadlocked.


[13-Feb-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moderates already picked a lane, they jsut arent fully commited to it


[13-Feb-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
independants arent loyal to a party


[13-Feb-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moderate democrats right now already chose republican, they jsut arent committed to the GOP because Trump is running that shitshow


[13-Feb-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if Trump didnt exist, Bloomberg would be running republican, and pete woudl likely be a log cabin republican


[13-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg just did the inverse of what Trump did.


[13-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Clarence Thomas apparently was in a "documentary" and it's like holy shit dude Anita Hill was 1991 let it go


[13-Feb-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[13-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS justice who had a very rough confirmation, was accused of sexual harassment


[13-Feb-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[13-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Known for saying basically nothing, he talks maybe once every five years


[13-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also known for not really caring about his job


[13-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The timing was basically to fuck up Biden.


[13-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who opposed him being confirmed, and Thomas has never gotten over it.


[13-Feb-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most moderates rightnow are on the extreme right, they;re jsut extremely wishy washy about it


[13-Feb-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont want to be republican under trump because that;s seen as an exposure


[13-Feb-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people seem to have gotten centrists and independants confused


[13-Feb-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
isn't that the "shy trump voter" phenomenon


[13-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also a "shy Bernie voter" thing


[13-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[13-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think if you asked most people


[13-Feb-20 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont support Trump they support republican stances


[13-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Do you think the people who work at the companies should be able to profit from what the company makes, just like the owners"


[13-Feb-20 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the anal fisting but maybe apply some lube instead of going in  trump dry


[13-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
that people would disagree


[13-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People tend to _like_ worker-owned businesses


[13-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot, it's seen as an ideal


[13-Feb-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we give corporate what thyew want maybe they'll give us some of what we want back"


[13-Feb-20 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the 50's that might have worked... *slightly*


[13-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also any union who is against Sanders is totally laughable considering what he wants to do


[13-Feb-20 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the 50's also had more unions


[13-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What Sanders wants would _make right-to-work illegal._


[13-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"right to work"


[13-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thousands-have-been-killed-in-afghanistan-reconstruction-stunning-watchdog-report-reveals

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Thousands have been killed in Afghanistan ‘reconstruction,’ stunnin...
A first-of-its-kind report on the "human costs" of U.S. efforts toward reconstruction in Afghanistan reveals that thousands have been killed or wounded in the process of trying to stabilize the region.
https://media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2020/01/11/694940094001_6121742530001_6121742381001-vs.jpg


[13-Feb-20 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/804983218/watchdog-agency-tabulates-human-toll-in-afghanistan-of-reconstruction-effort non fox news source

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The costs in dollars of trying to rebuild Afghanistan have been known, but until now much less has been known about the price paid in lives in the U.S.-led effort.
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[13-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/12/wall-street-shrugs-off-bernie-sanders-114529

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‘Trump can absolutely kill him’: Wall Street shrugs off Sanders
The finance world is treating the prospect of a President Sanders much like it generally dismissed a possible President Trump in 2016.
https://static.politico.com/8e/90/9ff3bdbb4a9fbb7355334abf4b42/200211-bernie-sanders-gty-773.jpg


[13-Feb-20 04:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> "If we give corporate what thyew want maybe they'll give us some of what we want back"
That sounds like something a person with stockholm syndrome would say


[13-Feb-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that describes conservative voters pretty well


[13-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally no one likes Wall Street


[13-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's one of the common denominators that remain among Americans politically


[13-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No one does but he does string a few good points


[13-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From people I've heard, they feared Warren more


[13-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Initially


[13-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They thought Sanders would get nothing passed even if elected


[13-Feb-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh wall street doesnt think sanders can win, such a plot twist


[13-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
How did Sanders lose 2016 to Hillary?


[13-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rigging.


[13-Feb-20 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the dnc fucked him


[13-Feb-20 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and boomers were mroe active


[13-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Thinking rigging sounds a little far fetched


[13-Feb-20 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
litterally though, that;s the whole point of super delegates


[13-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who were neutered.


[13-Feb-20 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are there to rig shit to the DNCs favor


[13-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If Bernie Sanders could have beat Hillary he would have beat her easiky


[13-Feb-20 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not so much, 2016 was a massive flaming dumpster fire


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
People keep saying Hillary embodies all the wrong things in politics but she beat Bernie Sanders


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
democrats played it insanely safe not thinking trump would get nnominated and then elected


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary was the "safe" vote


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she didnt push boundries


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she didnt upset the status quo


[13-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she didt offer change


[13-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
People said Hillary was worst than Trump


[13-Feb-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she was, butr thye didt see trump coming


[13-Feb-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they thought trump woudl fizzle early


[13-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
despite not having proof to back up their cliams


[13-Feb-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they thought rewpublicans would play it just as safe as thye were


[13-Feb-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then maga happened


[13-Feb-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and kept happening


[13-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Koblod you said she is worst than Trump.


[13-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
How so?


[13-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Sally Moon#4922
She got more popular votes than he did.


[13-Feb-20 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump had a platform, he was pretty transparent inn his wants to fuck up the country. Hillary had no such transparency, her campaign was "Look at my vagina, i;m owed the presidency!" and not much else, her economic promises were "i;m friends with wall street. and her charisma was a wet fart


[13-Feb-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as a candidate she was pretty much set to lose against trump


[13-Feb-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even if she gained the popular vote, her campaign only targeted the rich


[13-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Then that far must have smelt pretty good because she got more of the popular vote than Trump did


[13-Feb-20 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Feb-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps campaign targeted rural voters in a way that triggered the electoral college


[13-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Did the rich buy her the popular vote?


[13-Feb-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she boguht thme herself by targeting the mroe well off voters, there was also depserationn to stop trump by neo liberals and such


[13-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The rich did not buy her the popular vote


[13-Feb-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, she bought her own popular vote


[13-Feb-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she got on talk shows, and got rich people to vouch for her, and played up the city angle of millions of people living in them


[13-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No she didn't Trump was that bad, his wickedness made Hillary look better in comparison.


[13-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://hillreporter.com/study-theres-a-70-percent-chance-a-recession-hits-within-next-6-months-57880

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[13-Feb-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is who they targeted


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump targeted the vulnerable, hillary targeted the well off


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
thank you Trump a final F U to Obama


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Who was targeted?


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
please god let this recession hit before next january


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voters


[13-Feb-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
but preferably, before november


[13-Feb-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump targeted vulnerable rural voters, hillary targeted well off middle class voters in large cities


[13-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So she was promoting herself? Isn't that what campaigning is about to get voters to vote for you?


[13-Feb-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but she was only promoting herself to those who didnt need any help


[13-Feb-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and werent desperate for change


[13-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So the middle class? Urban votes?


[13-Feb-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[13-Feb-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump meanwhile went after the vote that was so depserate for channge and a win, they would vote for anyone who promised it


[13-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Many people hated Hillary because she was a strong woman


[13-Feb-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is not a strong woman


[13-Feb-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is a bitter angry woman


[13-Feb-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
you're both terrible at arguing lol


[13-Feb-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I need more practice


[13-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Anyroad Bernie Sanders lost to Hillary the "Worst Candidate"


[13-Feb-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
again because the democrats played it safe


[13-Feb-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they didnt want to mess with obama;s record


[13-Feb-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rock the boat in any way


[13-Feb-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanders is a very large boat rocking


[13-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie Sanders lost. The people spoke they did not want him.


[13-Feb-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
People didn't like Hillary because of an elaborate orchestrated smear campaign by the Trump campaign team and the Russian officials they collaborated with


[13-Feb-20 05:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The more of a monster people paint Hillary the worst it makes Sanders look


[13-Feb-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
that is why she lost


[13-Feb-20 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the FBI didn't help matters either


[13-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I already knew that


[13-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
News Networks also were to blame and media


[13-Feb-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
The Trump campaign was only able to use that information, and have it bounce off on Trump, because of Clinton's long time support for the neoliberal establishment, and Trump's political outsiderness rendered him immune to perceptions of having supported "the establishment"


[13-Feb-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is in a different ballpark


[13-Feb-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
he has been part of the political machine for ages, but he's stood on his own unwavering against causes that have long been unpopular


[13-Feb-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders will not be the subject of any similar type of smear


[13-Feb-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
And Trump campaign officials _fear_ a Sanders nomination


[13-Feb-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
for this exact reason


[13-Feb-20 05:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So what about Bernie Sander's praise for Cuba and his protest in Nicaragua?


[13-Feb-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
what about them


[13-Feb-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
foreign policy is not high on most people's list of things they care about in politicians


[13-Feb-20 05:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump and Fox News can use that to their advantage


[13-Feb-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
domestic policy is far more important to nearly all voters


[13-Feb-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
M4A is ridiculously popular


[13-Feb-20 05:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think at this point we are so far gone from the Nicaraguan affair that most people would or should admit the Contras were a fucked project to begin with, if they are at all familiar with them. Pretty sure no one really cares about Cuba and ending the embargo is a thing because going to a locked down place is cool


[13-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its not going to be that simple Aaron.


[13-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The fact is Bernie was at an anti American protest its not going to look good for him and his rivals know that.


[13-Feb-20 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/mar/05/facebook-posts/no-bernie-sanders-didnt-march-fidel-castro-cuba/

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PolitiFact - No, Bernie Sanders didn't march with Fidel Castro in Cuba
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-fire.jpg


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Even the idea itself is dangerous for Bernie's spotless record


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Sally Moon America's shenanigans during this reported time are also known to be objectively fucked up. Bernie marching against the state against racism is good actually


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
how is it _any_ more dangerous than someone with too many gaffes to even count off hand


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
(Biden)


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
While it is a good thing some will not see it as such


[13-Feb-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox news using disproven news? the usual and easily dispproven


[13-Feb-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea that it will hurt him (but not some other candidate) is ridiculous


[13-Feb-20 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Sally Moon then those people deserve to be alienated from the political sphere because they are the ones holding the 75% who don't vote down.


[13-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You mean like Hillary's emails and Benghazi all which have been disprove but people still believe it?


[13-Feb-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
you're literally incoherent


[13-Feb-20 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who still believe it are the ones who believe everything fox news says and will never vote democrat ever


[13-Feb-20 05:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Worrying about thme is pointless


[13-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Sally Moon#4922
People will believe things even if its untrue


[13-Feb-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
case in point: you believe things even if they are untrue

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[13-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The emails after three years of investigating they found nothing


[13-Feb-20 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, and then they did it again. it;s distraction pure and simple to keep trump's base occupied


[13-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It was a distraction but people still believed it


[13-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump and fox news lie, this is a well acknowledged fact


[13-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to everyone actually paying attention, their lies fall appart at the seams


[13-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump lies people have grown desensitized to it


[13-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except they havent


[13-Feb-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
With the amendment of Taft-Hartley into Oblivion, may the glorious unions ride upon the Bezos and the Waltons like cavalry in the clear afternoon sun and stain the plains of American finance red with the crumbling fortunes of the political bougiouse. May the failure of the economic pillars of private industry crumble to dust under the boot and raised fist of working man and woman and trans Ascension into democracy. May the fall of wage labor and of capitalism bring to their knees and humility the political aristocracy. That which culminated in France shall be brought to America, the Thermidorians shall be crushed before they are born. The fated last Constitution of the First Republic shall be brought forth from its forgotten sepulcher and enshrined as law, symbolically under the land which all shall own. Viva la revolution! Viva la Sanders!


[13-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
They have Trump's approval rating has not changed much since the impeachment


[13-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It has actually rose


[13-Feb-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
~~You know who they poll for those approval ratings? Trump;s base, they ate his lies to begin with and those staying with him operate on a desperate sunken cost fallacy. They dont care that he lies as long as they;re winning~~


[13-Feb-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not true


[13-Feb-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
the approval ratings among his base are >95%


[13-Feb-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
the approval polls that are actually legitimate are general population


[13-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Many of Trump's supporters have already said they knew he was dirty when he got into office it doesn't really change anything if we go by polls


[13-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So yeah if Bernie wants to win he has to pull in the moderates in the Democratic party


[13-Feb-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sally Moon can I get you to construct an argument of the following form

P1: Sanders ...
P2: ...
P3: ...
...
C: Sanders will likely lose to Trump


[13-Feb-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
because I honestly have no idea what the fuck you are actually saying


[13-Feb-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
The moderates will vote blue no matter who because all they care about is Trump bad. They are spineless.


[13-Feb-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie bros will bail when our guy fails


[13-Feb-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
It is a covenant.


[13-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If Biden is still there or Pete Bernie is going to have problems. The Democratic party is not like the Republican party; its too diverse. Bernie is going to have to change his approach if he wants more votes.


[13-Feb-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
answer my question


[13-Feb-20 05:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Why should I have to change the way I type?


[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't see the issue.


[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
because your argument is unintelligible


[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I can read it just fine


[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Me: coming to fuck Biden's front yard when Sanders wins: >>1767661


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[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
you just meander around saying nothing of meaning


[13-Feb-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
with no evidence, mind you


[13-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I am saying something. Bernie is going to struggle unless he changes his approach to bring in more voters


[13-Feb-20 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
After the post-Bernie revolution of 2024 this will be the new anthem of America: 
https://youtu.be/tLBL4M55tJU

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I'm A Member of the Midnight Crew
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Dr. Eggman has an Announcement to Make
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[13-Feb-20 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
All rise for the piss


[13-Feb-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he changes his approach to bring in more voters, then he loses all his voters


[13-Feb-20 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
REAGAN LIBRARY AND THE MOON TO BE A PUBLIC URINAL


[13-Feb-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
P1: Sanders...
P2: ...
...
Pn: {P1..Pn-1} imply a candidate will struggle unless the candidate changes approach to bring in more voters
C: Sanders will struggle unless he changes his approach to bring in more voters


[13-Feb-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
what are P1..Pn-1


[13-Feb-20 05:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its a risk he has to be willing to take. If his voters really belive in his cause. They will stick by him no matter what.


[13-Feb-20 05:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/nW-Bb_DZ18U

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Eggman's Announcement but it's vocoded to the star-spangled banner
It's enough to make a grown man cry....
Animation by Oddly.exe
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nW-Bb_DZ18U/hqdefault.jpg


[13-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Honahue#0656
the people that voted for Hilary will vote for Bernie for the same reason they voted for Hillary, cause he isn't Trump, other people will vote for Bernie cause he isn't establishment Dem


[13-Feb-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie has Joe Rogan. Everyone else has no one. Who has the longest reach over the most effected by the current neo-liberal regime in a hard way and the largest possible group of non-voters to mobilize? Not CNN. Not MSNBC. Joe Rogan


[13-Feb-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Roganites will bring Sanders to office if he wins. Everyone else loses if they win


[13-Feb-20 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Rogan's people only see a guy who has been stanning the same stuff for thirty years, which means something: he's not lying when he says he wants X. He wants X. And when X is less stress and fear for them, then that's good.


[13-Feb-20 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
And as said before, by myself and by Hon: Bernie controls and substantial base that won't be mobilizes if he loses. Because he stands for something. Everyone else does not, just the same professional managerial class management-based policies. It's not a question of structure to them, but who is there offering the tax credits for what.


[13-Feb-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the people who vote for them are cowards.


[13-Feb-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
They are afraid of Trump and lack the balls to change party or practice


[13-Feb-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
They will vote no matter what.


[13-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie's Base is a double edged sword


[13-Feb-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the Bernie machine has the balls and conviction to not, or vote third party in protest


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you want Trump gone, vote Bernie or be a pussy ass bitch


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll fuck your crops


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
That is what it comes down to


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
You want Trump gone. That is all.


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
a few of the really rich dems afraid of losing some wealth might protest vote 3rd party or even vote for trump but I suspect (and hope) they aren't a large enough blok to swing things


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vote Bernie


[13-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
They are passionate but they also are too vicious some online and its making moderates uneasy


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or I fuck your crops


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Giid


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bully the bitches


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
They'll still vote blue


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because no matter who


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vote blue


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moderates are cowards, any show of strength is considered vicious to them


[13-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
they aren't any more viciouys than anyone elses fandom but it serves those in power to paint them as somehow worse


[13-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Bernie's base need to simmer down and to be more open to criticism.


[13-Feb-20 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah


[13-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes


[13-Feb-20 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
criticism for what


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bitch nah, we've been talked down to for too long by you PMC twits. Grow some balls and take your own lashings for once.


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
bernie's base aren't the one kitting up un full battle rattle and walking around capital buildings, watever they are doing is just fine


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am done working hard for nothing


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to live


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
They went after Hilary for voicing her opinion about Bernie Sanders


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hillary is a rat


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Clinton deserved to be criticized for what she said


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie campaigned hard for her


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
_hard_


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
And she still stabbed in the back


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary said no one liked him, bitch he has a whole following


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
and Hillary is still phenomanlly wealthy


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
No loyalty from Hillary


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
she got off _easy_


[13-Feb-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Clintons shall be cases into the fail forge.


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You can disagree but there is no need to resort to attacks.


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
And made to stop making fail pancakes on Twitter


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she attacked first


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
she was the one who attacked you moron


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
christ


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
They shall go to work at McDonalds


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
At the counter


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
With everyone else


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because that is the economy you made


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically what you;re saying is that the bernie supporters shoudl act as punching bags and just accept insults


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It wasn't an attack.


[13-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's the economy you made for us, Babs


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
_yes it was_


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
literally saying "Nobody likes you" is playground level bullying


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
instead of Pete's forced conscription everyone should have to work retail or none wealthy customer service for a year


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm tired of this, go figure out how to fucking think and then come back when you do. bye


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue I've done my punishment for ten fucking years


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want out


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
I deserve a medal of freedom


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And of honor


[13-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Elect me as president


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Medals of freedom for every retail worker


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, it's awful I seriously got less shit on in the military than in customer service


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone shall stand and salute the service sector employee


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Strong unions for them all


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make management grovel


[13-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then fade away


[13-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like I missed something that is both important and irrelevant


[13-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
because by god is that a lot of messages


[13-Feb-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
and I really don't feel like scrolling through them anymore lol


[13-Feb-20 06:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it basically boils down to a return debater arguing that bernie should change his policies or moderates will be scared


[13-Feb-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow this was the person who argued that Biden needed to win the nomination or Trump would get reelected


[13-Feb-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
he came back this time saying it was Yang


[13-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
watch Yang throw his endorsment to Bernie


[13-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tl;dr of it, @Crow, is he literally doesn't know how to argue.


[13-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is just a mess of thoughts that vaguely say BIDEN ONLY WAY TO BEAT TRUMP


[13-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure if it's bad faith or utter inability to think.


[13-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The variety of changing arguments is making me lean towards bad faith now.


[13-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(MOOPSY)


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obama endorsing Bloomberg will be so fucking sad.


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know it's gonna happen.


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not so sure, Bloomberg is a bit openly racist.


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then quickly Sanders when Bloomberg drops out.


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But very quickly.


[13-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama doesn't hav MANY principles, but one of them is he really opposes the mass imprisonment of blakks.


[13-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg being known to talk in private about how the best approach to blakks is to swarm them with police and use excuses to "find their guns" is not gonna win Obama's favor.


[13-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll probably reluctantly endorse Warren then Bernie.


[13-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either way he'll endorse at least two.


[13-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, in regards to Trump slandering Biden


[13-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a theory on it that I've shared before


[13-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Trump wasn't just trying to make Biden lose in the general election


[13-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but to win in the primary


[13-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is get Biden's "base" riled up that he's under attakk over nothing, get Biden's name in the news a ton, he sweeps Iowa/NH, becomes Dem nominee with baggage.


[13-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, the way things happened to play out, it bakkfire massively.


[13-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans couldn't quite keep Biden's name in the news, but people stopped trusting him.


[13-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Bernie has been a meme machine


[13-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are Trump supporters trying to get Bernie nominated


[13-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Pete (who has no states good for him after NH) hoovers up Biden voters like crazy.


[13-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically conservatives might be responsible for unleashing their own worst enemy.


[13-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Happened with Dems in 2016.


[13-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP is doing the same shit, same arrogance


[13-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
it'll be nice if Bernie can get a blow out win soon so no one can give a "why first place doesn't matter" oped


[13-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Republicans manage to get Bernie to win SC, it is soooo over for Biden.


[13-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's legitimately an entire ground game for the GOP there.


[13-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Get people out to vote for Bernie, he's easy to beat in November so make sure he wins here


[13-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trouble is, Bernie is *not* easy to beat in November.


[13-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has the most coherent narrative of all the Democratic candidates.


[13-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP GOP if they do this.


[13-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, arrogance is right.


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expect Steyer soon will drop out and endorse Bernie btw.


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he does so before SC...


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Biden is screwed.


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
Styer is super horny for Bernie


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He basically paid like 30 million to make a friend


[13-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer is actually third in SC polls.


[13-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His whole campaign was just "someone please be my friend"


[13-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trenderhoof to Bernie's AJ.


[13-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Steyer isn't casually racist, I don't think.


[13-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed they remembered Trenderhoof as a part of AJ's story. Wonder what happened to him.


[13-Feb-20 06:26 AM] jlun2#8758
He decided that stallions are better and came out of his closet.


[13-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again remembering the finale just reminds me of the leaks that showed Haber wanted an awful Sunset Shimmer wankfest and no one else did


[13-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Treascair#7785
re: Trenderhoof, I blame the artist Gsphere.  He got me on the Big Mac/Trenderhoof ship fucking HARD!


[13-Feb-20 07:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/bd97fc5b6ec07b1eb46cea6015c0dcac

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Iowa Democratic Party chairman resigns after caucus chaos
WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the Iowa Democratic Party announced his resignation  Wednesday after a disastrous caucus process beset by technical glitches led to a dayslong delay in reporting...
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[13-Feb-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, AP stikking to its guns


[13-Feb-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it still refuses to declare a winner.


[13-Feb-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No wonder the guy resigned.


[13-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Recanvas will be done on Tuesday.


[13-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Iowa will never get this again.


[13-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be reliably red by 2024 and irrelevant.


[13-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[13-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Iowa does votes instead of caucuses


[13-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means New Hampshire by its law must come first.


[13-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've basically just ceded choosing the initial frontrunners.


[13-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, TIL Montana is the very last primary state


[13-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By early June things are done anyway


[13-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Primaries spread out like this are retarded btw.


[13-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it so only rich people can run and it doesn't really select better candidates.


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In any sane country we wouldn't be seeing Democratic debates until **June**


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a primary in like, August.


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just glad the most annoying hangers on at this point dropped out


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer needs to drop and endorse Bernie.


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just made going through stats annoying


[13-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like Patrick and Delaney


[13-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also holy fuck Gabbard


[13-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop


[13-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not going to get a third party bid going and Libertarians stopped trying this election, just stop


[13-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
As with Bloomberg, she's only running Democrat because Republicans aren't holding primaries that can be won by people who aren't Trump.


[13-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She moved to New Hampshire months ago


[13-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Had literally daily events


[13-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She got 600 more votes than Yang.


[13-Feb-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She will switch parties if Trump is re elected.


[13-Feb-20 08:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Gabbard more than likely has some vested (outside) interests who would like her to stay in the race as long as possible


[13-Feb-20 08:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/QHlAXJP

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Are you serious?
https://i.imgur.com/d57U8S9h.jpg


[13-Feb-20 08:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://tenor.com/view/wait-thats-illegal-halo-meme-gif-14048618

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[13-Feb-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Very.


[13-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter, someone's already been fired, boss won't be fired, company will dissuade feds from suing.


[13-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a sane world, Donald Trump would've had all his assets forcibly taken away at 30


[13-Feb-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be put under fukking monitoring so they could find every little account his daddy tukked away as he tries to regain the fortune, and he'd eventually be some nobody with a small business once it was all gone.


[13-Feb-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But no, instead we are in the world where fake construction work to drive out poor tenants mixed with completely refusing to rent to blakk people is responded to with a settlement where he can claim he wasn't even guilty.


[13-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The law that was broken is enforced by a federal agency with few teeth that can't force anyone to do much of anything.


[13-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put up a sign that says "Sorry" basically


[13-Feb-20 09:35 AM] Treascair#7785
Hey Nebbie.  'fucking', 'tucked' and 'black'.  Have the decency to spell correctly, for fuck's sakes.  You know better.  Come on.


[13-Feb-20 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
ok boomer


[13-Feb-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a stylistic choice *shrug*


[13-Feb-20 09:39 AM] Treascair#7785
It's more a lack of respect on their part, in my view. It's not difficult to spell correctly. There's typos, then there's actively spelling things wrong.


[13-Feb-20 09:40 AM] Treascair#7785
However, I'll admit my insomnia might be getting the better of me and making me a nitpicky motherfucker.

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[13-Feb-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-12/powell-suggests-the-fed-may-lack-ammo-to-combat-next-recession


[13-Feb-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
> Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell came close to acknowledging that the central bank may not have the firepower to fight the next recession and called on Congress to get ready to help.
> 
> The current low level of interest rates “means that it would be important for fiscal policy to support the economy if it weakens,” he told the House Financial Services Committee on Tuesday.
> 
> The remark, which came in opening testimony that Powell is due to repeat to a Senate panel on Wednesday, was an unusual appeal by the head of a politically independent institution that is used to combating economic contractions on its own.
> 
> But it highlights the difficulties that the Fed and other major central banks face in a world of historically low interest rates and why tax cuts and government spending increases may also be needed to fight future downturns.


[13-Feb-20 10:58 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fuck.


[13-Feb-20 10:59 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr trump's economic policies have weakened the federal reserve's ability to combat economic contractions on its own, and it's now appealing to the house for help


[13-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Here", we depend on investments and if something goes down in the world, we are getting fucked. Even coronavirus haven't  reached us, it chopped our currency value by whopping 10%.


[13-Feb-20 12:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd love to see Obama endorse a candidate that isn't Biden, while he's still running


[13-Feb-20 12:16 PM] Zen#4827
Register Dem , vote for Bernie
Healthcare is a right
When a Highschool diploma became needed to get a job with a living wage it became free, we need to do the same to collage.
Not to mention He is the ONLY candidate with any kind of plan for climate change
Bernie just won Iowa and New Hampture
This year we millennials have passed boomers in population size
Dont buy into the socialism buzzword, we already have a socialism but for the rich who don't pay a nickel in taxes 
If we have higher voter turnout than ever before in our age group we can and WILL win.
Our generation has been marginalized and taken advantage of for far too long
Its time for the change of the guard, and the handing of the reigns to those who will inherit this world.
2020 the revolution is now
https://i.redd.it/gjzlhpn70jw31.png
https://www.gp.org/green_new_deal
Sanders plans to cancel student debt by imposing a modest tax of less than a penny on wall street speculation Ie: for every stock you trade you would be taxed a very small amount


and also sanders plans to legalize marijuana federally on day one through an executive order 
People get thrown into jail and denied the right to vote via suppression from receiving a felony from small quantity marijuana  possession charges. Largely these people are of minority ethnic groups, this would be a victory not only for stopping voter suppression but also a huge victory for racial equality.
Its time for the rich to pay their fair share in taxes, and for our country to look and act the part of being the wealthiest nation in the world.

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Green New Deal
The Green New Deal is a four part program for moving America quickly out of crisis into a secure, sustainable future. Inspired by the New Deal programs that helped us out of the Great Depression of the 1930s, the Green New Deal will provide similar relief and create an economy...
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[13-Feb-20 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
you're kinda preaching to the choir tbh


[13-Feb-20 01:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/trump-fires-defense-official-refusing-to-break-law-elaine-mccusker.html

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Trump Fires Defense Official for Refusing to Break the Law on His B...
Trump’s assault on the rule of law is accelerating over the last 24 hours.
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[13-Feb-20 01:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She was in the DoD mails as the one that kept warning OMB they were doing dubious shit


[13-Feb-20 01:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically just saying in an internal email "I think this is wrong" is enough to get on Trump's revenge list


[13-Feb-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you arent a yes man, a psychopath, or easily blackmailed into submission. You have to go!


[13-Feb-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i wouldn't be surprised if those 3 war criminals he pardoned got top spots in trump's cabinet


[13-Feb-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/482887-bannon-says-trump-now-understands-how-to-use-power-of-presidency-the

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Bannon says Trump now understands how to use presidential power: 'T...
Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon said in a new interview that President Trump has grasped the powers of the presidency as he ramps up pressure on the Department of Justice (DOJ).
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[13-Feb-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Things not looking great for Bloomberg now that he's getting in the spotlight


[13-Feb-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/michael-bloomberg-2020-election-racist-housing-discrimination-a9333056.html

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2008 video shows Michael Bloomberg defending racist housing discrim...
Controversy follows audio in which candidate defended stop-and-frisk policing
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[13-Feb-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/804795405/throw-them-against-the-wall-and-frisk-them-bloomberg-s-2015-race-talk-stirs-deba

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'Throw Them Against The Wall And Frisk Them': Bloomberg's 2015 Race...
The remarks, shared widely on social media this week, have sparked discussion about the former New York City mayor's past support of stop-and-frisk policies, which targeted minority neighborhoods.
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[13-Feb-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/12/805308722/kushner-seeks-to-revive-trumps-overhaul-for-immigration-system

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Kushner Seeks To Revive Trump's Overhaul For Immigration System
President Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law has been meeting with business leaders, immigration hard-liners and other allies. The goal: revive a plan to overhaul immigration laws before November.
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[13-Feb-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/12/805455196/utah-bill-decriminalizing-polygamy-clears-first-hurdle-moves-to-state-senate

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Utah Bill Decriminalizing Polygamy Clears First Hurdle, Moves To St...
"Vigorous enforcement of the law during the mid-twentieth century did not deter the practice of plural marriage," Sen. Deidre Henderson said. She said it's time to end secrecy around the practice.
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[13-Feb-20 02:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought it was legal in Utah already...


[13-Feb-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
On December 13, 2013, US Federal Judge Clark Waddoups ruled in Brown v. Buhman that the portions of Utah's anti-polygamy laws which prohibit multiple cohabitation were unconstitutional, but also allowed Utah to maintain its ban on multiple marriage licenses.


[13-Feb-20 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
polygamy is banned in all 50 states but it has been challenged before


[13-Feb-20 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_polygamy

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The legality of polygamy varies widely around the world. Polygamy is legal in 58 out of nearly 200 sovereign states, the vast majority of them being Muslim-majority countries situated in Africa, and Asia. In most of these states, polygyny is allowed and legally sanctioned. Pol...
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[13-Feb-20 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they make a distinction between sexes


[13-Feb-20 03:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently it can go both ways for mormons, but just 90% is one man - multiple wives


[13-Feb-20 03:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Absolutely haram in islam, of course


[13-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Feb-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Feb-20 04:14 PM] jlun2#8758
> jokes about republican men being closet homosexuals
except whenever I mention it I wasn't joking, and would link to a source like <https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-weird-science-of-homophobes-who-turn-out-to-be-gay>
<https://www.salon.com/2016/05/21/the_red_state_gay_porn_habit_why_conservative_states_like_mississippi_and_north_carolina_lead_the_nation_in_same_sex_porn_consumption/>

also closet Republican lol 😛


[13-Feb-20 04:49 PM] illumnious#7938
>America Biscayne Beach Elementary School on lockdown due to police activity in area
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/02/13/biscayne-beach-elementary-school-on-lockdown-due-to-police-activity-in-area/

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Driver bails out of stolen vehicle in Miami Beach, police say
Biscayne Beach Elementary School was placed on lockdown Thursday morning due to unrelated police activity in the area, a Miami-Dade County Public Schools spokeswoman said.
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[13-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Feb-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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wat 😂 

[13-Feb-20 05:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Memes about how you're bad at memes


[13-Feb-20 05:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting angle


[13-Feb-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jim-jordan-ohio-wrestler-osu-trump-adam-disabato-abuse-allegations-students-a9332781.html

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Key Trump ally was 'crying and begging' student wrestler to deny ab...
At least 177 athletes assaulted at Ohio State University by team doctor who took his own life
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[13-Feb-20 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/1227940533772922880?s=21

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SYRIA: The Syrian Parliament voted today to recognise the Armenian Genocide carried out by the Ottomans between 1915 and 1917.
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[13-Feb-20 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
ooh. It's ethnic cleansing time :3


[13-Feb-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
I have determined that the race of obese orange people is harmful to society


[13-Feb-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Can we cleanse them


[13-Feb-20 06:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482902-bloomberg-campaign-teams-up-with-meme-2020-to-flood-instagram-with

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Bloomberg campaign teams up with 'Meme 2020' to flood Instagram wit...
Michael Bloomberg has tapped some of the internet’s most prominent meme-makers in a new advertising campaign on Instagram as the former New York City mayor expands his 2020 presidential campaign’s online presence.
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[13-Feb-20 06:05 PM] Litrojia#0612
yep, it's 2020 alright


[13-Feb-20 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
I should join the Bloomberg campaign just to do nothing but take money from them. Apparently he pays his people a high 20$ an hour.


[13-Feb-20 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think Steyer was the same way, but he was so unpopular it was just a small team of people being bored out of their fucking minds, but getting 20$ an hour doing it.


[13-Feb-20 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, okay


[13-Feb-20 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
sign me up.


[13-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
shame they dont outsource it, out here 20$/hr for doing memes would literally be the dream job


[13-Feb-20 06:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's better than retail that's for sure.


[13-Feb-20 06:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh shit, Bernie is paying 20$ an hour too for internships


[13-Feb-20 06:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'd have to go to DC for that though, lmao


[13-Feb-20 06:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482956-bernie-sanders-calls-james-carville-a-political-hack

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Sanders calls James Carville 'a political hack'
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is hitting back at Democratic strategist James Carville, who had cast doubt on his electability, calling Carville a “political hack.”
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[13-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/pompeo-claims-notable-progress-in-talks-with-taliban/2020/02/11/8fc8be10-4d27-11ea-b721-9f4cdc90bc1c_story.html


[13-Feb-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c7c8d19f208b49f424271e0a98b0850a

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Trump will attend NASCAR's Daytona 500 race in Florida
WASHINGTON (AP) — Daytona International Speedway is going to be a little more crowded than usual for the annual Daytona 500 on Sunday.  President Donald Trump will attend NASCAR's...
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[13-Feb-20 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It may be about to become the American Empire's version of the Roman Empire's hippodromus racing events :twismug:


[13-Feb-20 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With the emperor watching and all


[13-Feb-20 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In this case, Trump is a blend of Caligula and Vitellius


[13-Feb-20 09:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
has he had drunken orgies in the palace with causal sadism thrown in?


[13-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
At Mar-a-Logo? Well, probably.


[13-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
He may not hav Epstein around anymore, but I'm sure he has other people to hook him up with some desperate teenage runaways while he's sloshed.


[13-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a teetoaler(sp) but yeah.


[13-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is teetotal? *How*?


[13-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of his relatives is/was an alcoholic and he swore it off.


[13-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah he never drinks


[13-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh right, he has cold medicine to get high off of.


[13-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His vice is junk food.


[13-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Always was


[13-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tons of sudafed


[13-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
any proof he likes the sudafed?


[13-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChtuyP0VEAQZlY1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

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[13-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The drawer on the right is full of Sudafed boxes


[13-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i only see two unless he has mutliple brands.


[13-Feb-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
people on the Apprentice cast reported he was always high on amphetamines


[13-Feb-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
furthermore, the sudafed boxes he has in this picture are illegally imported from the UK


[13-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not the dangerous UK Sudafed some people claimed.


[13-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boxes are the wrong color.


[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just tons of the US stuff


[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
"dangerous"


[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not dangerous...

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[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's paracetemol, phenylephrine, and caffeine.


[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
so he's just getting high off the caffeine then


[13-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
For some strange reason, yes.


[13-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It might be easier than chugging coffee


[13-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
He also might've been on the other stuff and just not bothered to chekk which type


[13-Feb-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of those things that's just *weird*.


[13-Feb-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like he isn't even abusing OTC drugs properly.


[13-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Illegal UK Sudafed? How


[13-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't phenylephrine not even really Sudafed


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it was just a placebo


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
tbh just get high on placebo drugs


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well when you are a big business mogal you are likely up in weird hours. given his age coffee might not sit right with his stomach anymore but he still  wants the cafine boost.
so if he is using sudefed for that it would likely be for that reason


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
phenylephrine has been shown to be not more effective than placebo


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
and should have never been marketed


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
johnson&johnson just _really_ didn't want to lose their sudafed market


[13-Feb-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
because it was clear the laws against meth were going to kill it


[13-Feb-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie another example of perverse incentives for Big Pharma


[13-Feb-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-Feb-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is actually a common problem in medicine with the FDA


[13-Feb-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
the bar is set high on danger, but very low on improvement.


[13-Feb-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
A drug can be basically just placebo, but as long as it's not actively harmful, it'll eventually get approved.


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when later on it's found to cause harm, the FDA ignores it for a while.


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is really hard to get things unapproved once approved.


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, hydrogen peroxide doesn't really seem to work.


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Likely because it loses strength rapidly just sitting on a shelf.


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
phenylephrine probably will not cause any physiological harm


[13-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But yet it's considered standard.


[13-Feb-20 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
peroxide works when stored and used as labeled but causes excessive scarring


[13-Feb-20 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
use isopropyl alcohol or ethanol instead


[13-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't stored well.


[13-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It ends up not doing shit when actually used.


[13-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
no one stores drugs well, the worst place to store meds is in the bathroom


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] jlun2#8758
why do americans store pills in the bathroom


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
when I worked at a pharmacy we had to toss like $100k worth of insulin cause the frigde broke overnight and there was something wrong with the alarm system at the same time


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
because it's convenient to


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
insulin and flu shoots


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
most people have cabinetry in their bathrooms


[13-Feb-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
and spend a lot of time there in the morning preparing for their workday


[13-Feb-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
what's one more thing?


[13-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
it doesn't really matter for some drugs cause you only have a month at a time


[13-Feb-20 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
but if you're trying to keep a first aid kit shove that in your bedroom closet or kitchen pantry somewhere dark dry and with a stable temp


[13-Feb-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
there's also stuff like


[13-Feb-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
my eye saline is considered to be of medical quality


[13-Feb-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
but there is no place that makes sense to store it except the bathroom


[13-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Honahue#0656
saline won't decompose into something else though that the problem with shelf life of other drugs


[13-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
so long as it's sealed saline it probably shelf stable near enough to indefiniatly


[13-Feb-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
my silicone hydrogel contact lenses will degrade if not used within a few years


[13-Feb-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I keep them in the bathroom


[13-Feb-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the packaging is sealed


[13-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but saline is salt and distilled water


[13-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
hard for sodium chloride to break down into something else


[13-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
maybe the plasic of the bottle will leach into it or something


[13-Feb-20 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
it's ptfe lined


[13-Feb-20 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
so that's unlikely


[13-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Honahue#0656
I think any "drug" has to have an expiration date and it's just set to one year after manufacture, some stuff is more stable than others though, drugs we didn't sell at the pharmacy were sent back and then sent to third world countries cause they knew how it had been stored for a year and so long as it is stored well a lot of meds are usable long after their expiration date


[13-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Honahue#0656
at least thats what DoD studies have shown


[13-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/2020-02-11-taco-bell-late-employees-sign-ohio-facebook-post-apologize-23923580.html

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Taco Bell apologizes for controversial storefront sign: 'This shoul...
Taco Bell has issued an apology after a customer discovered a sign calling out employees who were late for work.
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[13-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656
as for contacts I don't know maybe the contact itself is breaking down, we didn't carry anything but the cleaning solutions at my store


[13-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mexican-narcos-more-brazen-by-the-day-land-cocaine-plane-on-a-highway-and-shoot-a-general

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Mexican Narcos, More Brazen by the Day, Land Coke Plane on a Highwa...
One soldier was killed and three more wounded, including a top regional commander, after a cocaine-filled airplane touched down near a Caribbean resort in Mexico.
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[13-Feb-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
decriminalize it


[13-Feb-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
legalize it


[13-Feb-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
both of these options fix the problem


[13-Feb-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://newrepublic.com/article/156411/end-gop

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End the GOP
In order to save our democracy, we must not merely defeat the Republican Party.
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[13-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make Billionaires Pay Again


[13-Feb-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
end billionaires


[13-Feb-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
no one person should ever have that much control


[13-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every Man a King (But No One Wears A Crown)


[13-Feb-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just feudalism with extra steps atm


[13-Feb-20 11:08 PM] jlun2#8758
>  “They renewed it when it was clear he lacked the decency to drop out. In other words, their real problem was with a potential loser, not a possible child molester.” In defense of its decision, the RNC issued a brief statement to the press: “The RNC is the political arm of the president and we support the President.”
The King and his group of pedos 2020


[13-Feb-20 11:15 PM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349

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[13-Feb-20 11:36 PM] jlun2#8758
I keep imagining the boomers all dancing and singing about "owning the libs" and how they'll make America Great Again while doing Nazi salutes.


[13-Feb-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbWBfLIMamE

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Bernie Speaks 18: Sanders Tree & Flower Planting Day 4/25/1987
Check out the full playlist here:
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[13-Feb-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i found a backlog of bernie speaks episodes


[13-Feb-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
Also nice to know that the article byte link also pointed out that every single time people claimed the GOP will die, it comes back with a vengeance. At least I'm not the only one worried about the zombie.


[13-Feb-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i just hope it;s on its final boss form


[13-Feb-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[14-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
T H I C C


[14-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[14-Feb-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
what's this case


[14-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Idk but waiting for United States of America v. 20 Pounds of Pussy and Ass


[14-Feb-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1227298966108196866

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Mando (@MitchellCares)
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1227298966108196866
This is actually incredible. On MSNBC, An undecided voter ended up going with Bernie BECAUSE she was sick and tired of MSNBC trying to tear down Sanders. https://t.co/yRLaOA7B5v
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[14-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
big suprise.


[14-Feb-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-indictment-1083572/

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US government indictment of Huawei released and it's a pretty inten...
There are a few redacted areas of the document, but there are still some pretty intense accusations here.
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[14-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
```“Huawei established a formal rewards schedule to pay employees of Huawei affiliates for stealing information from competitors based upon the value of the information obtained.”```


[14-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[14-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, it's so nice to see all the stereotypes about various nations seem to be 90%+ correct


[14-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/bernie-sanders-james-carville-criticism/index.html

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Carville hits back at Sanders after criticism: 'At least I'm not a ...
Democratic strategist James Carville has fired back at Sen. Bernie Sanders after the Vermont independent dismissed him as a "political hack" in an interview with CNN.
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[14-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No u"


[14-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
peak boomer energy


[14-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```At the center of Carville's critique of Sanders is the contention that the senator supports policies on topics like immigration and health care that are too liberal to find support from the majority of the country. In an interview with MSNBC earlier this month, Carville said Democrats need to "wake up and make sure that we talk about things that are relevant to people"```


[14-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd double dare him to name those things.


[14-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
at least a few of them.


[14-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"things that are relevant to people"


[14-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like Carville!


[14-Feb-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:pudding:


[14-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
medicare? that isn't relevant to people!


[14-Feb-20 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
you know, it's amazing how i managed to deduce what adjective he called Bernie by before i opened the article headline


[14-Feb-20 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i deduced "communist", and guess what, i was fucking right


[14-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gee it;s almost like every capitalist doesnt want people to know what socialism actually is


[14-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's less about 'don't know' and more 'rouse the sleeping Red Scare notions in people'


[14-Feb-20 01:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) it's about those scary godless commies right? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/677346931772751892/unknown.png

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[14-Feb-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for them is that the red scare is a boomer/silents concept, the younger generations dont have this fear instilled in them


[14-Feb-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the mroe they try to instill the fear, the mroe people push back because it;s really fucking annoying


[14-Feb-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/barclay-ceo-jes-staley-is-being-probed-over-links-to-jeffrey-epstein.html

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Barclays reveals its CEO is being probed over links to Jeffrey Epstein
Barclays' Chief Executive Jes Staley is being investigated over his links to Jeffrey Epstein, the American financier and convicted sex offender who committed suicide in jail last year.
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[14-Feb-20 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
inb4 the detective commits suicide by repeated bludgeoning on the head


[14-Feb-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it will be suicide by 2 gunshots to the back of his knees and a toss into a ravine


[14-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1227320793077624834

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@MitchellCares "Go on" is the really telling thing here - this guy knows exactly where she's going to go with this
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[14-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
> yeah, Ari isn't great by any means, but he can even tell that the anti-Sanders stuff has gone way overboard


[14-Feb-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/13/21136160/bloomberg-2020-meme-instagram-influencers-campaign-marketing-fyre-festival-promoters

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Bloomberg hired Fyre Festival promoters to make his campaign memes
The ads are drawing criticism from the influencers’ followers
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[14-Feb-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Feb-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Holy cow, sacred cow


[14-Feb-20 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Worship the cow


[14-Feb-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barr-blasts-trumps-tweets-stone-case-impossible-job/story?id=68963276

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Barr blasts Trump's tweets on Stone case: 'Impossible for me to do ...
Attorney General William Barr blasted President Trump's tweets about the Roger Stone case in an exclusive interview with ABC News Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas.
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[14-Feb-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess barr is getting fired soon


[14-Feb-20 02:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
impossible


[14-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He can find someone else


[14-Feb-20 02:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
remember, he's doing this for the cameras


[14-Feb-20 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the DOJ immediately reversed its position on Stone after the tweet, remember


[14-Feb-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Barr's job is to cover for Trumps crimes, Trump keeps confessing his crimes on twitter


[14-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
Barr is the single most competent official in Trump's office


[14-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
firing him is straight up suicide.


[14-Feb-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump would fire him without a second glance because he doesnt understand this


[14-Feb-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't underestimate Trump's stupidity


[14-Feb-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump will fire anyone who gets in his way


[14-Feb-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially now that the GOP wont call him out on it


[14-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr is the worst AG ever.


[14-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, the most competent person in Trump's cabinet.


[14-Feb-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TIL serial killer Ted Bundy was a Republican voter with some aspirations for office


[14-Feb-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine if his crimes hadn't been uncovered in the 70's and he had ended up becoming a senior GOP politician


[14-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
538 is now saying "No one" gets majority.


[14-Feb-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Majority on what


[14-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Delegates


[14-Feb-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In NH?


[14-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Total


[14-Feb-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[14-Feb-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, we'll see


[14-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren will drop out within a month and that will help Bernie.


[14-Feb-20 02:15 AM] jlun2#8758
so trump 2020 right?


[14-Feb-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, burning space rock 2020


[14-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) ...that screenshot btw, from Trump's post. That's the favourite Peterson argument, on a national scale isn't it xD


[14-Feb-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/13/john-kellys-deepest-shiv-people-who-rely-fox-news-are-not-informed-citizens/


[14-Feb-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Feb-20 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
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Dennis Prager complains "the Left has made it impossible to say the N-word any longer," adding "It is idiotic you cannot say the N-word. Idiotic" https://t.co/Gd012Dw2ZD
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[14-Feb-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao seriously


[14-Feb-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/oregon-man-reported-workplace-racism-so-his-boss-got-him-arrested/

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Oregon man reported workplace racism — so his boss got him arrested
A black Oregon man was awarded an additional $600,000 after his former boss called in a favor from a police chief friend and had him arrested for reporting workplace discrimination. Michael Fesser brought his concerns in February 2017 about racial harassment by co-workers to E...
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[14-Feb-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know it's funny when Prager auto-censors himself anyway


[14-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/1228019211311562752

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In retrospect, it seems impossible to overstate the cultural damage done by SOUTH PARK, the show that portrayed earnestness as the only sin and taught that mockery is the ultimate inoculation against all criticism
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[14-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
> Right: we’re the party of Lincoln. Also we want to use the n-word.


[14-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I kinda agree about SP there.


[14-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Opponent#3498
always hated the shit. Hated how popular it was even more.


[14-Feb-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking https://twitter.com/StarletWebber/status/1228116652031664133

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@DanaSchwartzzz People will simultaneously say South Park is a massively influential cultural institution while also claiming “it’s just a cartoon” whenever it’s mildly critiqued
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[14-Feb-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, all these SP stans in the replies section make me hate the show even more


[14-Feb-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I also thought Team America: World Police also their creation) had some deeper anti-neocon message in it, but on closer inspection, the movie is also too aesthetically focused and cringeworthy at times


[14-Feb-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hate people who define comedy as offending the vulnerable


[14-Feb-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At the end of the day, i've realized South Park is obsolete


[14-Feb-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[14-Feb-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Considering how brainless boomers shielding their minds from political thoughts has become mockable in itself


[14-Feb-20 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even r/okbuddyretard acknowleges the absurdity of capitalism


[14-Feb-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i used to enjoy south park, though i havent watched it in near a decade so i dont know how well it holds up


[14-Feb-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i was teenager so it may have been a "I'm watching this even though i;m not supposed to" kind of enjoyment


[14-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO South Park is a good approach to comedy but it usually sacrifices everything else for that.


[14-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a product of its Gen X creators.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a good place to get your politics and ultimately it tends to get its message muddled when it is trying to say to not be moral crusaders or whatnot.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You described it best


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the older seasons were fun and i enjoyed episode 200, i dont really knwo much about current seasons though


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The message that comes thru is that you shouldn't care about ANYTHING.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dude everything sucks let's just eat burritos and listen to heavy metal"


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf happened


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was there a new episode or something


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, just someone said South Park is crap and people piled on her


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I'm not sure I said that.


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, not you


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The twitter person


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SP's always been "shit on the majority"


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
May have been someone else but it's talking about their Gen X attitude


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If something is trending, shit on it, and side-shit on the people shitting on it as well


[14-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm quite sure I talked about the Gen X attitude before, in relation to SP, but not those words.


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My mistake


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Found it


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
"listen to death metal and think you're improving society by doing so
meanwhile the arctic is on fire"


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
My description of Gen X ideology.


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know where I got the burritos from


[14-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But basically the same idea.


[14-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may notice, I said "death metal"


[14-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and related it as a cause of believing society is improving


[14-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is an important thing about what I said.


[14-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't grunge be better


[14-Feb-20 03:29 AM] ononim#8141
They did made new ep


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea isn't just to sit around and think everything's fine.


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] ononim#8141
about how al gore was right


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] ononim#8141
oopsie daisy!


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] ononim#8141
Guess climate change is real!


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to sit around and believe your own personal choices rejecting the broken system matter.


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using something that by its nature society dislikes.


[14-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
South Park's ideology believes that since X person said Y is bad, we should consume Y in spite, and that's how society gets better.


[14-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the purest form of reactionary.


[14-Feb-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama said burning trash is bad, ergo we should burn mroe trash in spite


[14-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
To literally just liv your life by what others told you not to do.


[14-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause remember, @Itsthinking


[14-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Al Gore was on the Senate floor


[14-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
grilling band members about their fans


[14-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making them say "motherfucker" on the record


[14-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
to drive home the URGENT NEED for...little labels that say "hey parents, why the fukk are you buying a song about death and masturbation for your 5 year olds?"


[14-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those were formative years for the creators of South Park.


[14-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is what their ideology is built on.


[14-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
@ononim I think it being Al Gore is meaningful.


[14-Feb-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also holy shit


[14-Feb-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, he was the specific one that did what I just described.


[14-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the creators of South Park had reason to hate on him *specifically*.


[14-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't want to buy what he was selling because he went after Gen X music.


[14-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trey and Matt believe liberals just want to puritanize the world and that any push against bad behavior is just rooted in that and not like, science.


[14-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the violent games hearing in the US Senate


[14-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where basically Nintendo used it as a massive marketing campaign and had their president say "Night Trap will never be on a Nintendo system" even though it was impossible anyway


[14-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[14-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cms.gameflycdn.com/proxy/gf/boxart/480w/5018103.jpg

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[14-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Funny in two ways: it now is, and the game is only T.


[14-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
wat


[14-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Night Trap and Mortal Kombat basically was the same part of the moral panic Nebulon talked about


[14-Feb-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh neat, limited run released night trap


[14-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
to be fair


[14-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
During the 80s the nonsense abount D&D and Rock music leading teens to satanism and serial cult killings was real


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you weren't doing sports you were literally trash and deserved to be bullied not only by your peers, but by adults and society as a whole


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
glad I didn't grow up in the 80s then


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers were most politically active in the 80s


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a horrible time to be anyone young.


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not like, horrible as in being poor


[14-Feb-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he-man was also a satanic ritual


[14-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but just, people in power didn't respect you at all and were actively trying to destroy everything about you.


[14-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what led us here.


[14-Feb-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 90's also had pokemon


[14-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So I can see where Matt and Trey would be coming from to react against anything that said "this is wrong" or "not doing X now makes you bad"


[14-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Simply because of conditioning


[14-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 90s and its cartoons were a reaction


[14-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just South Park


[14-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff like Ren and Stimpy and even more normal cartoons was a bit of rebellion against excessive censorship.


[14-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Censorship is bad but me creeping on 15 year olds is good"- John K


[14-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Regardless yeah, Daria, Beavis and Butthead etc


[14-Feb-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man, beavis and butthead


[14-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean even the normal cartoons


[14-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones on Saturday Morning aside of specifically 4kidz


[14-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They seemed to enter a phase of taking joy in getting things past censors.


[14-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is still somewhat a thing today, but not nearly as much.


[14-Feb-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
ignoring impracticality concerns, what would G4 have been like if it was released in that time period


[14-Feb-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably way safer and more girls sales friendly


[14-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
of the late 90s?


[14-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or 80s


[14-Feb-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from a corporate standpoint


[14-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
G4 in late 90s probably would've had RD be the most obvious lesbian innuendo ever every episode


[14-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't really be "better" in any sense, it would just beat you over the head with things.


[14-Feb-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be more like captain planet


[14-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it'd be handdrawn


[14-Feb-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but with friendship instead of environmentalism


[14-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The map would've been in it from the start etc.


[14-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
not explained at all.


[14-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they might've had klaspky csupo animating it since they were big in the late 90s


[14-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be a trip.


[14-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if we were lucky Paul Dini or some of the "action/adventure" cartoon writers of the time would've been part of the writing team for it


[14-Feb-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what the toys would have been like if g4 was in the 90's


[14-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i know being the 90s they likely would've made spike gross cause. 90s kept pushing grossout humor plus the "boys are icky" mindset


[14-Feb-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there would have probably been a line a furby style animatronic ponies


[14-Feb-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/GhfOfC2

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Donald Branigan petit dump
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[14-Feb-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hoxhaist TPUSA


[14-Feb-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Feb-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hoxhaist TPUSA


[14-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, this is absolutely amazing.


[14-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
is there a reason why they have an image of what looks like a prepubescent girl wearing an inappropriately short dress with what looks like an extremely short sawed-off shotgun strapped to her back?


[14-Feb-20 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie Undertale and Toriel Sanders


[14-Feb-20 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let's go


[14-Feb-20 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie Undertale and Toriel Sanders


[14-Feb-20 04:43 AM] jlun2#8758
conservatives are pedos? idk


[14-Feb-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
all I know is


[14-Feb-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
ben wants the feet pics


[14-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[14-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of degeneracy fukking with racists amuses me.


[14-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
I never understand why they shing they'll somehow be exempt from the purges


[14-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they will be.


[14-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The purges will say they target degenerates but in practice only target blakks etc.


[14-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how it works with fascism.


[14-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why pot's illegal.


[14-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Honahue#0656
fascism is a death spiral though once one group is gone they need to target a new one


[14-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it'll always find other races etc.


[14-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
nah


[14-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
anything that isn't making proper warriors and mothers will get targeted


[14-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
fascists ahve a breeding fetish


[14-Feb-20 05:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue So Christian Facists are just breeding cults


[14-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Honahue#0656
Christianity is a breeding cult


[14-Feb-20 05:15 AM] jlun2#8758
also I advocate for self cloning


[14-Feb-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity IS a paternity and breeding cult.


[14-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is a purity cult that often uses eugenics, which is like a breeding cult.


[14-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Honahue#0656
though so is Judiasm, it's in Gensis where wasting seed gets a guy killed


[14-Feb-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism also likes to use Christianity, cause churches provide an existing structure to do purity testing.


[14-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
keep in mind there was a number of member's in the nazi leadership that were neopaganists


[14-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Honahue#0656
the Nazi's were trying to create their own state religion based on whatever myths they thought would work


[14-Feb-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
> myths they thought would work
so basically nothing works


[14-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Opponent#3498
and if we're going back that far, Mussolini was forced to work with Vatican, it wasn't a willing choice. They incorporated symbols and shit, but that was a political move, not an ideological one.


[14-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Honahue#0656
most religions are pretty okay with sacrificing theology for political power


[14-Feb-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Hitler evidently hated the sort of the Nazis really into occultism and paganism and would have rather a Christian Nazi Party I think. So even the political usage of religion is hardly universal in the NSDAP. Likewise neo-pagan heathenism can be as much a tool to convey left wing political programs as right wing, since there's a faction within the Heathen community (last I checked a significant one) that uses Loki as a symbol of Trans acceptance in the community among a few others. I've seen my fair share of pro LGBT and Eco-Communalism work done through Heathenry. At the same time right-wing fascist groups appropriate its aesthetic and existence as a return to national purity.


[14-Feb-20 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
The door can swing both ways really. Church and politics are not as seperate as some or many would like and it has done work on either side of politics to a significant degree to good or I'll effect.


[14-Feb-20 05:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reverend Jones' of Jonestown fame originally established his church among the lines of the Civil Rights movement and his most active people were old ladies from the movement. He was so involved that part of the reason he moved to South America was he was suspected or feared he was suspected of being a Communist and part of that paranoia went with him, leading to the assasination of the Congress man who went to investigate him and the eventual mass suicide of the community.


[14-Feb-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler wanted a Christmas tree with a Swastika at the top, not Odin worship.


[14-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Uncomfortable reality is that a Christmas sponsored by Coca Cola is both the ideal of Nazis and America.


[14-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know if the Nazis won Coke would have given in.


[14-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Opponent#3498
why wouldn't it, it's a corporation


[14-Feb-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
like Baron Cohen said, Facebook would have run ads for the Final Solution


[14-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Coke got off fine either way, they got Fanta from the Nazis losing


[14-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A brand that only ever existed because they refused to provide to Germany


[14-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
and was made with whatever available, yeah.


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[14-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[14-Feb-20 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Feb-20 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the center-left italian government ceded power to the fascists because they were scared of the growing popularity of the communists


[14-Feb-20 11:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/482976-senate-votes-to-rein-in-trumps-power-to-attack-iran

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Senate votes to rein in Trump's power to attack Iran
Eight Senate Republicans voted with all 47 Democrats on Thursday to rein in President Trump's ability to take military action against Iran, paving the way for a veto showdown with the White House.
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[14-Feb-20 12:45 PM] illumnious#7938
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I’m seeing Governor Cuomo today at The White House. He must understand that National Security far exceeds politics. New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes. Build relationships, but don’t bring Fredo!
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[14-Feb-20 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, time for more quid pro quos


[14-Feb-20 12:50 PM] illumnious#7938
More like shit pro fuck


[14-Feb-20 12:50 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s been taking fuck


[14-Feb-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who the crap is fredo


[14-Feb-20 12:55 PM] illumnious#7938
The Senate finally found its spine when it came to limiting Trump's war powers

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[14-Feb-20 12:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well 8 of them did anyway


[14-Feb-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That group comprised Sens. Mike Lee (Utah), Rand Paul (Ky.), Susan Collins (Maine), Todd Young (Ind.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Bill Cassidy (La.) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)


[14-Feb-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell just shrunk into his shell and let trump use him as a pocket pussy


[14-Feb-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Overnight Health Care: Nevada union won't endorse before caucuses a...
Welcome to Thursday's Overnight Health Care.
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[14-Feb-20 02:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Why Is Bloomberg's Long History of Egregious Sexism Getting a Pass?
The surging Democratic presidential candidate and Bloomberg LP has fielded nearly 40 sexual discrimination and harassment lawsuits.
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[14-Feb-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he leaves it out of his own ads


[14-Feb-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and doesnt go to debates


[14-Feb-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one can press him on it


[14-Feb-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he went to debates he would liekly be doing jsut as bad as biden right now


[14-Feb-20 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
i.e. plays to his strengths and doesn't do too much dumb. People could unironically learn from this.


[14-Feb-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
```The decision to stay neutral in the crowded Democratic primary comes after the union recently distributed literature to its members warning that Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) "Medicare for All" plan would "end culinary health care" by replacing private plans with government-run insurance```


[14-Feb-20 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
also, behold the primary issue with unions.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
you pay off the leadership and get situations like these.


[14-Feb-20 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
where a whole strata of population appears to be deliberately misinformed and acting against their own interest.


[14-Feb-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Damn, unions. You could be taking those gains from not having to bargain with insurance companies to make actual fucking gains in your sector.


[14-Feb-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or fucking federalizing and doing mass gains


[14-Feb-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Come on fams, we need ya to get lit if we are to end capitalism


[14-Feb-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
You corporatized pieces of shit BRING COMMUNISTS BACK INTO YOUR LEADERSHIP


[14-Feb-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
WE WILL MAKE YOU STRONG AGAIN


[14-Feb-20 04:49 PM] illumnious#7938
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[14-Feb-20 04:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me


[14-Feb-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
couldnt hear a word of that over the camera remix going on


[14-Feb-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
nah. Although in a fucking incredibly ironic twist this is the big business giving back to the workers 😂


[14-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully he keeps it up as promised for whichever democrat takes the nomination


[14-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He can outspend Trump and all his pacs on his own


[14-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/14/politics/andrew-mccabe-justice-department-investigation/index.html

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Justice Department drops McCabe criminal investigation
The Department of Justice is dropping its criminal investigation involving former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe without bringing charges, it announced on Friday.
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[14-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
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When Your Doctor Is Also A Lobbyist: Inside The War Over Surprise M...
As lawmakers consider bills to protect patients against surprise medical bills, doctors have waged a stealth on-the-ground campaign to win over members of Congress. Here’s how they did it.
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[14-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time for a Trump twitter tirade about how this is a pervesion of justice


[14-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, this is about out-of-network billing


[14-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Insurers jakk up prices and don't send much at all to doctors


[14-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
doctors sue


[14-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the whole thing leaves doctors and patients both out of money


[14-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The bills that came forward wanted median pay with a trigger for allowing arbitration, but this would mean doctors could easily get shafted with little recourse still


[14-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doctors are pushing for always being able to arbitrate.


[14-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in the tussle, air ambulance services got an exemption so they will still be able to say OKAY TEN THOUSAND DOLLA NOW PATIENT WE SAVED YOU WHILE YOU WERE UNCONSCIOUS


[14-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Honahue#0656
even if your job gives you vacation time hope you don't have any medical emergencys while enjoying it


[14-Feb-20 06:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I get sick on purpose because I want to worship big pharma it's my right


[14-Feb-20 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/tech/fortnite-taxes/index.html

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IRS quietly deletes guideline that Fortnite virtual currency must b...
For months leading up to this tax season, a section of the IRS's website advised players of Fortnite, the popular online video game, that their use of in-game virtual currency could be subject to federal taxes.
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[14-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah the classic Trump administration move


[14-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
don't change the law, don't change the rules


[14-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
just change the explanation of the rules.


[14-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like people actually still get enforcement done against them when you fail to tell them, right?


[14-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean how on earth would you  tax the chinese anyway xD


[14-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Opponent#3498
this is purely academic really


[14-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
it's still abysmally stupid, of course.


[14-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tencent doesn't control Epic's wallet, they collect dividends from their share amount


[14-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not about the parent company, it's about the players.


[14-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
only the chinese operate any significant amounts of in-game currency anywhere on the market


[14-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
at least it's like 95% majority


[14-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
I heard CSGO is a bit different, although that doesn't have any virtual currency, it only trades in $


[14-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine they only intended to tax american players for their funnybux


[14-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
oh this reminds me of


[14-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
that's the thing tho Tea, it likely costs a lot more to tax them than whatever they could possibly collect


[14-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
probably like a magnitude more or smth


[14-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/oct/30/counter-strike-trading-found-to-be-nearly-all-money-laundering

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Counter-Strike trading found to be 'nearly all' money laundering
Valve says it has halted trading of some in-game items in multiplayer shooter
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[14-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
most likely, yeah.


[14-Feb-20 06:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
shocker.


[14-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Any unsupervised system you can put money in and get more than 50%+ back out elsewhere without having to "do" anything is going to be full of money laundering


[14-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't wait for Valve to eliminate trading entirely now, since CS:GO trading is now officially Bad™


[14-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
nah they'll wait for the hype to die down and then re-enable it again


[14-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
by it I mean CSGO trading


[14-Feb-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
TF2 sitting quietly in the corner being all, "heh, we're in danger"


[14-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, the scale's too small


[14-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
it made trading famous sure. But Valve did enough 'improvements' to prevent the game from ever growing with matchmaking and 'competitive mode'.


[14-Feb-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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In 2012, 45% of Americans told Gallup they were better off than they were three years ago. In 2004, 1996 and 1992 the number was 50%.
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[14-Feb-20 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
now that's desperation


[14-Feb-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Number big mean life good


[14-Feb-20 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
although I guess with Sanders potentially being elected on the horison, that might not be that far fetched :twismug:


[14-Feb-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People hate the elite and Wall Street


[14-Feb-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want more crying billionaires


[14-Feb-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would like to see more billionaires raging about how they have to pay taxes now and about how the economy is ruined because it;s not benefiting them purely anymore


[14-Feb-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah it will never _not _ benefit them entirely. But shifting the focus away is needed.


[14-Feb-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if we could just tell the auto idustry to fuck the hell off and let us rebuild our infrustructure, that would be pretty nice


[14-Feb-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a major reason why rural towns lack any form of public transport, local or intercity is due in part to the auto industry lobbying against it, so that people don't become dependent on buses instead of buying up overpriced cars en mass


[14-Feb-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
public transport fucks with their bottom line


[14-Feb-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/08/how-america-killed-transit/568825/

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[14-Feb-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in that same vein people back when cars were first being brought out hated public transport because it was the only system they could rely on with walking or horse being the only other option


[14-Feb-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other problem is that many transportation services dont see rural folk being all that into using it so they get left out of the planning a lot, mostly only focusing on inner city which is rapidly dwindling every time a bus breaks down


[14-Feb-20 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
as someone who experienced the glorious 50y.o. Soviet Era buses, jammed full of sweaty fat 'ladies' constantly complaining about it being too hot, and constantly complaining about someone opening a window (cause they're also all sick, see), I can see a very good argument against public transport :D But if you don't half-ass it and don't live in 3rd world, ehhh odds are getting much better


[14-Feb-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good public transport is a blessing


[14-Feb-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm for public transport because i cant drive, so i;m stranded in the middle of nowhere with no mobility at all


[14-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where I come from in spain there's a very robust city bus system and streetcars


[14-Feb-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're kept clean and they operate on time


[14-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Berlin is decent, except thanks to the east/west thing there's like 4 different systems under the same company


[14-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
U-bahn, S-Bahn, intercity, and buses


[14-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
Japanese public transposrt is like "oh god I can feel the back sweat of the guy next to me" but that's still better than 5 lane highways packed bumper to bumper with single occupancy cars


[14-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The public transport system must be run like a clockwork. No margin for corruption or negligience.


[14-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
that's why the Boring Company is so awful, it's just a worse subway, build a damn subway


[14-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
light surface rail if you can't for whatever other reason


[14-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We have busses here  (not taxi share buses), which break down every day.


[14-Feb-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
build bus stops and public buses for rural communities


[14-Feb-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have this bullshit private busthing that requires 48 hour call up notice, with a fee for every single stop you make


[14-Feb-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) why do older people live in rural america like 400km away from everyone else


[14-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The amusing thing about Spain's dictatorship is they did a lot of infrastructure and social programs to make sure the people were happy and not ready to revolt, what with being one of the last dictatorships in europe


[14-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And shared taxis are not regulated in any way. Just mafias fighing over passenger volumes, negleting own and passenger safety.


[14-Feb-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because cities cost too much to live in


[14-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And after it fell, that stuff was considered basic


[14-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Took three decades for anyone to consider privatising things and running them for profit


[14-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So people still demand shit just work


[14-Feb-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rural areas are just cheaper to live in so a lot of people live out here to avoid being goddamned homeless


[14-Feb-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also it;s peaceful


[14-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And no law has power over them. They went on a strike, they stole trailer trucks early in the morning and parked them across 5 lane highways, bringing a city to a total lockdown.


[14-Feb-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would be mentally unwell in a city


[14-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
"cheaper" in a sense but as a lot of cities that have tried to enact libertarian policies, if can be expensive trying to save money


[14-Feb-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i liek living out here but i also lack mobility to find a proper job, or get to the store to buy groceries


[14-Feb-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
well you can always start learning to draw for commissions


[14-Feb-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
may take a while tho


[14-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Honahue#0656
what ends up happening is that expense gets shifted to the children and becomes unpaid labor, nothing wrong with taking care of family but it's a hidden cost


[14-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Honahue#0656
most care taking jobs are underpaid or aren't concidered jobs


[14-Feb-20 10:22 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue If I had to take care of a bunch of old people with dementia I'd go insane


[14-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah my friend does in home hospice care and it is hard and under paided


[14-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656
30yo guy taking care of a bunch of 90yo's who are either barely concious or when they are lucid wondering why they are still alive


[14-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, it really hits home how retarded Americans are when I get told off by someone for being "too political" by pointing out Equestria probably has free healthcare cause pretty much only America doesn't.


[14-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much 100% chance they havn't thought about how utterly horrible it is that a person who gets hit by a bus gets buried under medical debt.


[14-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And how that would kind of ruin Equestria as a paradise when Pinkie becomes diabetic and only survives cause her friends all pay for the insulin


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
well the economics of Equestria are extremely under developed, like the most was Rarity opening up new stores and while it was portrayed as difficulte in the episode it was just a thing that happened then it was done


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, these people think Rainbow with that broken wing would pay 5000 bits on her way out of the hospital.


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
RCP must be smoking some good stuff


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Betting odds are


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah I saw a guy a week or two ago


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
who was citing RCP as his main news source


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
and he was clearly like


[14-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
chugging Conservative flavoraid by the barrel.


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every Republican talking point.


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even that Trump is now supported by blakks.


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
39.2% Sanders
34.5% Bloomberg
12.6% Buttigieg
9.4% Biden
5.5% Clinton


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too fucking late my God


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop this wet dream conservatives have


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also Bloomberg is too high


[14-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has about as much shot as Biden


[14-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
RCP just aggregates stuff news article wise


[14-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just picks way too many conservative sources


[14-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
I figured.


[14-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[14-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie is within the margin of error to beat Trump in Texas


[14-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only other within margin of error was Yang


[14-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man if Bernie got Texas and Florida...


[14-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be screaming.


[14-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bernie/Yang 2020


[14-Feb-20 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Bernie and Yang share the bag


[14-Feb-20 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
We get UBI and an overhaul of the welfare state


[14-Feb-20 11:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or an overhaul of the welfare state and a basic income for anyone making less than X. Set X to some value.


[14-Feb-20 11:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Though that might be too much means testing for Bernie


[14-Feb-20 11:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Mikey Thor at this point might just be trolling so I say fuck with him.


[14-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Mikey#7286
i think he's more ignorant tbh


[14-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Mikey#7286
idk


[14-Feb-20 11:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's proven a dofus at least and the argument has already gone in circles. So it might be time to ignore him, or even go into something different.


[14-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Mikey#7286
probably


[14-Feb-20 11:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's probably something underlying that'll need to be addressed to move it along but I have job number 2 in an hour and I really don't want to parse logic or whatever to infer whatever P1 is here. So I'mma dig up something to eat, heat up my coffee and play BOTW


[14-Feb-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/db64d4eaf5f65604cb147645e822a262

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Trump ignores AG Barr's request to stop tweeting about DOJ
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Friday ignored his attorney general's public request to stop tweeting about the Justice Department, saying he had the legal right to ask the agency to...
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[15-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Feb-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow Despite being only 13% of the


[15-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/14/tech/google-australian-dentist-review-case-scli-intl/index.html

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Dentist can force Google to hand over a reviewer's data, Australian...
A court in Australia has ruled that a dentist who claims he was defamed in a Google review can serve the tech giant with an order to unmask the post's author.
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[15-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever you imagine the world can't get any dumber or vile, Australia gets up and hollers "hold my beer"

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[15-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
no True Australian would ever let anyone hold their beer while doing something stupid

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[15-Feb-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
make 5 stars worthless

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[15-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one has ever used this right to be forgotten shit to do goods things


[15-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a future


[15-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Leave a negative Steam review, one month later reception calls you to the front desk and a courier serves you papers


[15-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"EA alleges the user 'buttSniffer69' negatively impacted their business with their spurious allegations that 'The developers of this game actively hate their clients', costing at the company at least 45million USD"


[15-Feb-20 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
"We demand the defendee pay the full amount"


[15-Feb-20 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
At this point a terrorism charge is probably a cheaper negative review, lol


[15-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Strandjunker/status/1228024058333343745

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https://twitter.com/Strandjunker/status/1228024058333343745
@realDonaldTrump We hate Donald John Trump like they hated President Obama. However, we hate Trump because he is a racist, misogynist, rapist, pedophile, pathological liar, malignant narcissist, lifetime criminal, corrupt politician, and goddamn traitor.

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[15-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
> We hate Donald John Trump like they hated President Obama. However, we hate Trump because he is a racist, misogynist, rapist, pedophile, pathological liar, malignant narcissist, lifetime criminal, corrupt politician, and goddamn traitor.
> 
> They hated Obama because they are racist.


[15-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQroXZhWAAEXDr5.jpg:orig

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[15-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/thwtqmka4wt31.jpg

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[15-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Libel and slander suits are only to be brought in an emergency. Hurt feelings are not an emergency"


[15-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless this guy was basically like


[15-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Running websites to fuck over this guy, ranting about it every day and getting attention


[15-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's bullshit, just like 90%+ of any defamation suits


[15-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 aus fines google 500mil USD for not complying


[15-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is like suing someone for saying "ur mum gay lol"


[15-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at all the images with downvotes on derpi_


[15-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at all the australian artists_


[15-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_breathes easy BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY_


[15-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[15-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know how hard it is to draw upside down?


[15-Feb-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/trump-phone-calls-world-leaders-114997

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Trump says he may stop letting others listen in on calls with world...
The president mused in an interview about scrapping the practice less than a year after one such call led to his impeachment.
https://static.politico.com/a9/47/c16b2a694e3c8d36034380adb166/200131-trump-ap-773.jpg


[15-Feb-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck national security, that just complicates things


[15-Feb-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/amzswd8r6wg41.jpg

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[15-Feb-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bernie-sanders-economic-policy-lloyd-blankfein-goldman-sachs-ceo-a9334956.html

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Bernie Sanders will be good for American economy, top economist says
Thomas Piketty says that history has many examples of extreme inequality fostering healthy social democracies
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/13/12/AFP-1OX5A5.jpg


[15-Feb-20 01:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
if people have money to spend then businesses can make money to pay their workers by selling stuff. who would of thought?


[15-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>caring about workers


[15-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[15-Feb-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whats good for the workers is bad for the billionaire!


[15-Feb-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know the old saying... "two birds in the bush are worth more than a bird in the hand"


[15-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dECh4YtNG9c

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Republican talks about how much  Senator Bernie Sanders accomplishe...
This is a Republican recounting a story about how much 
@SenSanders
accomplished in Congress, how he did NOT need to take credit and how much integrity he has. That's why I always say Bernie is a public servant, not a politician. #BernieBeatsTrump #BernieSanders2020 #NotMeUs
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[15-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> 
> "Well, actually, I was there! I mean, I was Secretary of Labor through some of these years. I saw how effective Bernie actually was. He was tenacious. He kept on getting changes, amendments, and very large pieces of legislation … his name was often not on those pieces of legislation. He did not have a, and does not have, a huge ego, so he didn’t hold out for his name to be highly placed on pieces of legislation, but he did hold out for amendments and for changes that almost, in every case — virtually in every case — helped working people, and helped the poor, and I saw it again and again and again. He was an effective legislator — in fact, one of the most effective legislators, because the more you work behind the scenes and don’t try to push yourself out there and don’t try to get the limelight, the more effective you can be, which, ironically, invites the complaint from some people that he was ineffective because he was not in the limelight. He was behind the scenes, enormously effective." — Robert Reich


[15-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
we don't deserve him, we really do not.


[15-Feb-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
he's not the politician we deserve, he's the politician we need


[15-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
> He would come into our office, he would come down the hallway in our office, a big thing under his arm,  we'll be like "Aw, Bernie's read everything again!"


[15-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
at least you can have someone to explain it to you now


[15-Feb-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"fuck, he got us"


[15-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
bernie hasn't taken credit for a lot of the stuff he's done in the senate apparently


[15-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
he would make an extraordinarily effective senate majority leader in a more sane political climate


[15-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
but he needs to be president because the presidency has too much power


[15-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how about we reduce the power of the presidency instead?


[15-Feb-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we cant do that without having a president whose willing to work towards that


[15-Feb-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the presidency is strong enough to shut any attempts down by simply having a bootlicking majority in congress


[15-Feb-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if they do turn against him every once in awhile, if it isn't veto proof, it;s not going to dent him


[15-Feb-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reducing presidential power once you've given up legislative power to boost it is easier said than done


[15-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
that and Bernie unironically is the best shot in this regard


[15-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
he might not want to cause he'd be able to do less, but this motivation isn't as bad as pure ego


[15-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Bloomberg's doing it for ego. Trump's doing it for ego


[15-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Lord Buttchug's doing it for his corporate masters


[15-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem for "moderates" in the current field is that it's a lot harder to hide the racist classist bullshit.


[15-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
coughcough biden


[15-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can go full Trump and barely hide it at all, but if you play the Democrats' game and go "well I won't actually hurt the poor!", eventually they'll get what you really think on the record.


[15-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
Biden's doing it because it's 1986 and he's gotta fight the Martian invasion.


[15-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This creates a big opening for Bernie, because he actually *doesn't* hate the poor, which under normal circumstances would be a big detriment.


[15-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in these circumstances, his honesty gains him points that make up for rich people not liking what he wants.


[15-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause at a certain point, they can't ignore what's pointed out as far as hypocrisy from the moderates.


[15-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can either go full Trump or full Bernie, the middleground where you try to be both anti-poor and appear liberal is unstable.


[15-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
...which means Republicans ultimately are responsible for the rise of Bernie.


[15-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They created this huge increase in bigotry/corruption and it's making it harder for people to hide.


[15-Feb-20 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944

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An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter
Rachel Bitecofer’s radical new theory predicted the midterms spot-on. So who’s going to win 2020?
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[15-Feb-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
that face is like those exaggerated pictures of "radical feminists" the right loves to use


[15-Feb-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
obese women with glasses & colored hair


[15-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
they're also often correct xD


[15-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh.


[15-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
not rly


[15-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents swing elections, they are not swing voters.


[15-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a matter of getting independents of the right leaning to turn out and pissing off the ones of the opposite leaning.


[15-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Feb-20 03:54 AM] jlun2#8758
> “The idea that there is this informed, engaged American population that is watching these political events and watching their elected leaders and assessing their behavior and making a judgment.”
months later I'm still mostly lost outside "GOP bad lets not vote for them"


[15-Feb-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
>bad


[15-Feb-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
literally christian terrorists


[15-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-drops-leak-case-against-former-fbi-acting-head-n1137066

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DOJ drops leak case vs. McCabe, judge said White House involvement ...
The judge, a George W. Bush appointee, said "the fact that you got somebody at the top basically trying to dictate whether somebody should be prosecuted" was like a "banana republic."
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[15-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The choice between GOP and Democrats at this point is absurdly simple: do poor people deserve to live or not


[15-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Conveniently for many GOP voters, poor often translates to black and latino thanks to their years of efforts ensuring that status


[15-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's a double win for them


[15-Feb-20 04:28 AM] jlun2#8758
RIP. I guess the poor whites also voting for GOP really hate minorities more so than helping themselves.

Also from that article byte posted:
> “Over the past few decades, American politics has become like a bitter sports rivalry, in which the parties hang together mainly out of sheer hatred of the other team, rather than a shared sense of purpose. Republicans might not love the president, but they absolutely loathe his Democratic adversaries. And it’s also true of Democrats, who might be consumed by their internal feuds over foreign policy and the proper role of government were it not for Trump.”
"Owning the libs/cons doesn't sound like a sustainable method; I wonder how will it end one day?


[15-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of "poor whites" have lived on the idea of the american dream since they were born and know nothing else


[15-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Work hard and everything will be OK and everyone has a fair chance at reaching the top


[15-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All those other countries are actually complete shitholes and everyone on the planet wants to live in the US


[15-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This really isn't that complicated to get at its core.


[15-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every other idea is just absurd, just look at the movies!


[15-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich whites > rich blakks > poor whites > poor blakks.


[15-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism says: Keep poors and blakks lower.


[15-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Groups 1, 2, and 3 want that.


[15-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Group 4 does not.


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] gigglefaggothameha#2943
typical leftist bullshit


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] gigglefaggothameha#2943
grow up


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you here to actually argue, or just make up insults because you can't argue?


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
To continue elaborating


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haitian revolution


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind there's a stratification in every step of that between man and woman


[15-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were 4 groups


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the same groups, in fact.


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big thoughts coming out of a guy with "faggot" in their name


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except the "poor blakks" were slaves.


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A rich white man is the top, poor black woman the absolute bottom.


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the "rich blakks" had no real rights.


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, what happened is


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
all but the slaves would routinely agree that slavery is okay


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't bother responding


[15-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, even slave leadership would agree slavery is okay


[15-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
they negotiated treaties in which they would get freedom, but none of their soldiers would.


[15-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno how discord doesn't catch people like that in their account creation or login filters


[15-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the suspicion that one of the three groups was working with abolitionists would cause complete chaos


[15-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And whenever the "big whites" and "free coloreds" would make an agreement coming close to equality between them, the "little whites" would BURN THE CITY DOWN IN RESPONSE


[15-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, mainland France had a revolution going on, that promised equality


[15-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So every now and then, some proclamation would arrive by ship saying "free coloreds are full citizens with full rights now!"


[15-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
only to be rescinded a month later


[15-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then unrescinded etc. etc.


[15-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the only reason that slavery actually got abolished was the last guys France sent to fix things were abolitionists


[15-Feb-20 04:40 AM] jlun2#8758
"lucky"?


[15-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they maneuvered things with others and overstepped their authority to just undercut the pro-slavery positions.


[15-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a huge army of slaves ready to kill anyone that decided to call them out.


[15-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 I suppose, but the bigger picture is like, any time there's classism and racism going on, especially together, the very bottom gets shat on by every level up above.


[15-Feb-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
rip ty


[15-Feb-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
that doesn't give me high hopes once the robots arrive


[15-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, Haiti to this day is HATED by european countries


[15-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
because its slaves revolted and took over, driving out their european overlords.


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The prevailing view is its poverty is its own fault and it shouldn't be given any help.


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Haiti to this day is HATED by european countries"


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which ones


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK and France, mostly


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because I can assure you no one in Spain gives a shit


[15-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or Germany


[15-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, Spain had the other side of the island


[15-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Spain's kept a fairly positive relationship with all its former colonies, though not necessarily its governments


[15-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a "fast track" way of getting spanish nationality for anyone in south america


[15-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it is quite popular


[15-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spain's weird cause its gov't was never sold on the idea of stomping natives into the dust.


[15-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Similar to France with Algeria I guess


[15-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But its guys just kept doing such for a while.


[15-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure France and Algeria isn't comparable, unless you mean there's a fast-trakk system in place.


[15-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, that


[15-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not the colonization


[15-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was quite a looot of hostility about Algeria when it was trying to become independent.


[15-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of giving full French citizenship to MUSLIMS instead of Christians was not looked upon highly.


[15-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish colonization was  always more about planting a flag somewhere and dealing with the locals just enough to promote Christ and get gold back home


[15-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and that was kind of the only alternative to what happened)


[15-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the Spanish gov't thought that, but then all the guys they sent seemed to just want to own their own little country.


[15-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone has ambitions once they have an army, a land full of resources, and their master is a literal ocean away, I guess


[15-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget a belief what they're doing is in the name of god and bringing civilization.


[15-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as the galeons kept sailing back home the crown didn't care much about what happened


[15-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Eh, I don't think people cared that much about all that


[15-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't mean that the conquistadors were actually devout


[15-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
or all that good at actually acting civilized


[15-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
just that they thought they were better than the natives and fixing things etc.


[15-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Extending christianity was mostly legal thing, the spanish system was tied to the church


[15-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coming over and seeing human sacrifices done with stone tools...


[15-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't be on the census if you don't have a christian name, and you can't have a christian name if you're not baptized, and if you're not on the census you're not paying taxes, so....


[15-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that whole stuff was certainly convenient for justifying conquest, yes


[15-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, experiments seem to show conservative types are more motivated by disgust.


[15-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pyramids of skulls and temples to flayed gods are pretty powerful imagery


[15-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a great leap to imagine that seeing traditional practices that are highly visceral would cause people to hate the outgroup doing them more and lead to wanting to "fix" them.


[15-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if the opinion on "Don't interfere with Sentinel island" would change if it became widely known the people there practice cannibalism


[15-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, if they were Muslims.


[15-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
India would invade ASAP.


[15-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>not use as new nuclear testing ground


[15-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/13/hold-your-hats-democratic-race-could-get-very-messy/


[15-Feb-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there might be a return of party bosses


[15-Feb-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
in the democratic primary


[15-Feb-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
> The Democratic Party’s delegate allocation rules, however, raise the serious possibility this year of a return of the party bosses. That’s because Democrats, unlike Republicans, do not give a statewide primary winner all or the lion’s share of that state’s delegates. Instead, Democrats award delegates proportionally to a candidate’s share of the vote, so long as that person gets at least 15 percent. If a winner gets 26 percent of the vote, as Sanders did in New Hampshire, he or she gets about 26 percent of the delegates.
> 
> This creates a strong incentive to stay in the race even if a candidate finishes third or fourth. In a Republican primary race, the third-place finish by Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) in New Hampshire with about 20 percent of the vote would doom her to oblivion, as Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) experienced during the 1996 GOP primary. But the Democratic rules encourage her to stay in to pile up delegates, giving her bargaining power at a brokered national convention.


[15-Feb-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
538 puts it at 2 in 5 nobody will get a majority of delegates


[15-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Great, the party gets to fight itself all the way to fucking August


[15-Feb-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought the GOP would implode first


[15-Feb-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
nope


[15-Feb-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
seems like the Democrats will


[15-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Extending the potential for attacks and bitterness and "never X" bollocks exponentially


[15-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democrats really do hate actually being in control, huh


[15-Feb-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
ready for a blatantly undemocratic result where sanders has the most votes but buttigieg gets the nomination?


[15-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, Bloomberg.


[15-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
While in third place.


[15-Feb-20 05:53 AM] jlun2#8758
so trump 2020


[15-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
is there a rule that democratic candidates are not allowed to run as third party if they lose the primary?


[15-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I remember seeing this


[15-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in the laws of a few states.


[15-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Sore Loser" law.


[15-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not specific to Democrats.


[15-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You lose any primary of any party, you can't get on the ballot.


[15-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ballot Access laws are shit in general btw.


[15-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a guy who wrote extensively about improving ballot access in the early 19th century.


[15-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, many state legislators reading his works did exactly the opposite of everything he suggested to make sure that new parties couldn't exist.


[15-Feb-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
so the states it applies in


[15-Feb-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
would doom any such campaign?


[15-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could theoretically win without the states in question, but it would be hard.


[15-Feb-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't expect any such campaign then


[15-Feb-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most third party candidates get on the ballots of only some states.


[15-Feb-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
we _need_ approval voting


[15-Feb-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
at minimum


[15-Feb-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to get rid of primaries.


[15-Feb-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're very bad.


[15-Feb-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they do is stretch out campaign season and select for more intense candidates.


[15-Feb-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
primaries are necessary in a FPTP system


[15-Feb-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
they would be completely redundant if approval was implemented


[15-Feb-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed, but even IRV with no primaries would be a massive improvement.


[15-Feb-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
even just making primaries be a single nationwide popular vote would be a big help


[15-Feb-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
no more state delegate bullshit


[15-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first step is ending caucuses.


[15-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like Iowa has sealed their fate.


[15-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully Nevada follows suit.


[15-Feb-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
if primaries must still exist: everyone votes in the primary on the same day, results are out by the next day, that's it


[15-Feb-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
none of this current crap


[15-Feb-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main thing is you'd need to convince SC and Nevada to move their stuff up


[15-Feb-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
NH would still be first but it'd be closer


[15-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then if you could move that new Super Tuesday as a whole you could easily collapse things down.


[15-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be a NH test, then ULTRA TUESDAY


[15-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still probably a month or something, but it'd be over reasonably fast with that.


[15-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1228449705224482817

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[15-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Drop out


[15-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Drop out already


[15-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/south-carolina/

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[15-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's position is rapidly heading to Sanders


[15-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
At its current trajectory, by the time of the primary there, Biden will be on par with Sanders.


[15-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you don't want Biden to drop


[15-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
his voters would latch onto Pete and Bloomberg


[15-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
What we really want is Warren to drop and endorse Bernie


[15-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that is very likely before SC


[15-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
(like, she loses Nevada, endorses Bernie, Biden starts dropping like a rokk)


[15-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren was doing okay in Nevada, but now she's likely to get fourth at best.


[15-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideal is like, Steyer+Warren both drop and endorse Bernie.


[15-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moderate vote is split between Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomberg, and Klobuchar, while liberals all go Bernie.


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
why do black people like biden so much


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't get it


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama.


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the stuff I talked about earlier.


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden is _not_ obama


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point.


[15-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I know


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I just think it's ridiculous to connect them


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
he clearly is subliminally racist


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is how voters think.


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
from what he's said and how he behaves


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
...I think you still missed my point earlier.


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk voters will vote for a racist.


[15-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be unreasonable to expect them not to.


[15-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk voters aren't voting upon an ivory tower of everything from which they can ask for complete purity in a candidate.


[15-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are voting from living under opression


[15-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, they believe a totally pure candidate will actually hurt them by being ineffectual


[15-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe the system will only allow an outright racist to gain power, so they need an outright racist who might toss them a bone every now and then to slowly improve things.


[15-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone like Bloomberg is undesirable to them because he doesn't toss any bones.


[15-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same for Buttigieg.


[15-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either one would just oppress them more successfully than Trump.


[15-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut


[15-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has shown he knows how to toss a few bones while not unleashing the racial floodgates and drawing Republican ire.


[15-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, Biden is the ideal candidate from the blakk perspective.


[15-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also like


[15-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
the blakk people with a bit of money


[15-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
want to preserve the racist system for their own selves


[15-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what I was talking about earlier.


[15-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
In history, people like Bernie tend to eventually enact change, but are often kept well away from power until everything's a mess.


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get power because in the mess, they are actually focused on a goal rather than self-interest, and so eventually just get there thru determination.


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
...so do you think he'll enact change if he gets the presidency or not


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But from a blakk perspective, putting hopes on Bernie is foolish.


[15-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who has been crushed by the system at every turn will often decide it's not worth truly fighting it.


[15-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who has been boosted by it at every turn will never decide it's worth fighting.


[15-Feb-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, someone who was crushed by it, but managed to break free and sit atop the system while it crushes their brethen...is never gonna even think of fighting.


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama didn't do a whole lot for racial equality


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
he did enuff to draw Republican ire tho


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] jlun2#8758
> Worse, someone who was crushed by it, but managed to break free and sit atop the system while it crushes their brethen...is never gonna even think of fighting.
movies about freedom fighters lied to me


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
obama practically speaking made it worse


[15-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was in the end too much of a good thing from a meta perspective.


[15-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, most "freedom fighters" just want a piece of the pie when the war is over, @jlun2


[15-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, @byte[]


[15-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the FDA under Obama ruled that it's okay for young girls to get abortion pills without a prescription or parental approval


[15-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
An Obama official quikkly said NOPE NOPE NOPE and Obama bakked the guy up.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Republicans would've been utterly FURIOUS about easy access to abortion pills without parents fukking over their little girl's life.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want pregnant teenage girls.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Democrats want to not piss off Republicans.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, they want to impregnate teenage girls


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Roy Moore.jpg


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats REGULARLY reel things in when they're about to rule that actually such and such is okay.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what DOMA was about.


[15-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I know


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are extremely intimidating.


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble for Republicans is


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
if someone like Bernie wins


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I've been pissed off about this bullshit since I ever found out it was happening


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
he won't be intimidated.


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll respond to them saying no abortion pills with the troops airdropping abortion pills.


[15-Feb-20 06:28 AM] jlun2#8758
too bad it'll probably get reverted after 4 years if he does win


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's too clean and honest to lose reelection unless he's completely ineffectual.


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Bernie knows how to actually get things done.


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
well, he could die


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope his VP pick is good


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably Warren, really.


[15-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's just moderate enuff to carry him thru.


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
does 538 have info about the senate races yet


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
filing deadlines are mostly March.


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
thoughts on the senate getting a democrat majority this year?


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was looking shaky until recently


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans were too brazen about the sham trial


[15-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie gets the nomination, Republicans are dead in the water for Senate races.


[15-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
People generally vote based on who they vote for President for Senate.


[15-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they see Bernie at the helm, they aren't gonna want to vote Republican.


[15-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the DNC hands the win to Biden...then Democrats may not take the Senate.


[15-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it'd be close.


[15-Feb-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
50/50 with Dem VP to giv the edge is very likely.


[15-Feb-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
grr, my (R) senator isn't up until 2022


[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
toomey has an extremly punchable face


[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey

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[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
2022 is gonna be terrible for Republicans in almost all cases.


[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie will for sure be putting Trump behind bars by then.


[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden probably would do it too.


[15-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In my experience over 70% of the population has a very punchable face


[15-Feb-20 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon  https://www.fastcompany.com/3060586/proof-that-americas-politicians-are-all-basically-the-same-old-white-dude 😛

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Proof That America’s Politicians Are All Basically The Same Old Whi...
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[15-Feb-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd say Bernie would do well with Warren as VP but she burned that bridge imo


[15-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
when she tried to claim he called her a liar on national televsion


[15-Feb-20 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie is probably big enough to put that behind him but man that was something


[15-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll pick a nonthreatening moderate who will keep their head down.


[15-Feb-20 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just not Kaine.


[15-Feb-20 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fdb2eff94fa935ed3854fbbdb3703faf

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Trump looks to rev up his base at Daytona 500
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is out to rev up his appeal with a key voting demographic — NASCAR fans — as he takes in the Daytona 500 on Sunday.  NASCAR drivers may veer to the...
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[15-Feb-20 10:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/67b65de4f315c076871935495ab65173

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US border agents to pursue migrants in 'sanctuary' cities
WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal agents who patrol the U.S. border will deploy to “sanctuary” cities across the country where local jurisdictions are hindering stepped up immigration enforcement,...
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[15-Feb-20 10:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8ea6ce4909ab891316c89a42997b936c

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National Black News Channel makes debut
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Former U.S. Rep. J.C. Watts was beaming like a proud parent as he talked about the launch of Black News Channel — a project he's worked on for years to create what's now...
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[15-Feb-20 10:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f730752822206e95c4d8aef747e224f4

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Appeals court deals blow to Trump's Medicaid work rules
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration's effort to remake Medicaid by requiring low-income people to work for health care suffered a serious setback Friday when a federal appeals court ruled...
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[15-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/14/21138272/cbp-tactical-ice-immigrants-sanctuary-cities

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Trump is sending armed tactical forces to arrest immigrants in sanc...
It’s yet another attempt to target sanctuary cities.
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[15-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[15-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/us/Border-Patrol-ICE-Sanctuary-Cities.html

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Border Patrol Will Deploy Elite Tactical Agents to Sanctuary Cities
Agents from a special tactical team that normally confronts smugglers on the border are being sent to sanctuary cities across the country.
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[15-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
OH BOY


[15-Feb-20 10:51 AM] Crow#5457
if the local police confront the federal police, should we root for them


[15-Feb-20 10:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
ACAB, hope they kill each other, basically.


[15-Feb-20 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Among the agents being deployed to sanctuary cities are members of the elite tactical unit known as BORTAC, which acts essentially as the SWAT team of the Border Patrol. With additional gear such as stun grenades and enhanced Special Forces-type training, including sniper certification, the officers typically conduct high-risk operations targeting individuals who are known to be violent, many of them with extensive criminal records.


[15-Feb-20 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
who's ready for a massacre


[15-Feb-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The goal of the new joint operation, one of the officials said, was to increase arrests in the sanctuary jurisdictions by at least 35 percent."


[15-Feb-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't you love arbitrary quotas for law enforcement?


[15-Feb-20 12:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/483059-mcconnell-trump-ought-to-listen-to-barrs-advice-on-doj-tweets

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McConnell: Trump 'ought to listen to' Barr's advice on DOJ tweets
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said President Trump should follow Attorney General William Barr's advice after the top Justice Department official said the president's tweeting wa
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[15-Feb-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
no one listens to bootlickers, though


[15-Feb-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
except other bootlickers, of course


[15-Feb-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minute they hastily acquitted trump instead of trying to use it as ransom against him, is the minute they lost any potential authority against him


[15-Feb-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483217-trump-administration-weighing-tax-incentive-for-us-households-to

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Trump administration weighing tax incentive for US households to in...
The White House is reportedly considering ways to incentivize U.S. households to invest in the stock market as part of an upcoming tax cuts package.
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[15-Feb-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483218-trump-could-take-lap-in-presidential-limo-at-daytona-500-fox-news please crash and burn

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Trump could take lap in presidential limo at Daytona 500: Fox Business
It's possible President Trump's appearance at the Daytona 500 on Sunday will include the presidential l
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[15-Feb-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please crash and burn


[15-Feb-20 01:57 PM] Opponent#3498
``` “It’s sort of an idealistic document,” a senior official involved in discussions told CNBC. “Sort of, ‘If you reelect this administration, this is what you’re going to get.’”```😂


[15-Feb-20 01:57 PM] Opponent#3498
I like how they're desperate enough to say this on record.


[15-Feb-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
still, though, that's a clever move.


[15-Feb-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
banking hard on 'number big life good' mentality.


[15-Feb-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
and, of course, no self-respecting republican voter would ever notice the implication that without this bill/idea, 'number big' has fuck all to do with their daily lives on any level.


[15-Feb-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
placing betsnow, instead of cutting social security, he'll try to tie it to the stock market


[15-Feb-20 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
that's the only thing with any positive optics at all.


[15-Feb-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
> placing betsnow, instead of cutting social security, he'll try to tie it to the stock market
@prism stryder(intexda) 

The return of the Bush plan. Excellent.


[15-Feb-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll also somehow try to tie medicare to the stock market because this is the stock market election


[15-Feb-20 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market is the economy now, welcome to vegas


[15-Feb-20 04:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/milesklassin/status/1227604458613432320?s=21

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https://twitter.com/milesklassin/status/1227604458613432320?s=21
So an anonymous bloc of Democratic Party donors is launching a PAC specifically designed to stop Bernie Sanders and saying it won’t release its funding sources because Sanders supporters are too mean online? Looks like the establishment has officially entered full freakout mo...
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[15-Feb-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Bernie bros have been mean to me on the internet" has got to be my new go-to excuse for anything


[15-Feb-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Why did you come so late to work?"
"Sorry, boss, Bernie bros have been mean to me on the internet"


[15-Feb-20 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Feb-20 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think there's a for women dnc superpac making campaign ads saying bernie sanders is Trump is diguise


[15-Feb-20 04:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[15-Feb-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supremacists-double-down-on-propaganda-in-2019\

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White Supremacists Double Down on Propaganda in 2019
2019 was the highest year on record for white supremacist propaganda incidents.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph_image_1200_x_628_/public/2020-02/cover.jpg?itok=gYXuhVQE


[15-Feb-20 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So much for the tolerant right


[15-Feb-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RAPrzes/status/1227626103868678144

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Ryan Przeslawski (@RAPrzes)
https://twitter.com/RAPrzes/status/1227626103868678144
@MilesKLassin It’s Hillary Clinton. Just say it. We all know it. It even *sounds* like her lol
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[15-Feb-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/Q9IyuhV

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Idk how much this would piss off fanboys, but some of these are really well done.
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[15-Feb-20 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[15-Feb-20 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"FIYAH IN DA BABYLON! DESPITE MAKING UP..."


[15-Feb-20 05:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That PAC shit is the exact thing that riles up support


[15-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, why is the Party so afraid of a Democratic Trump


[15-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're afraid of getting elected and having tons of support?


[15-Feb-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it;s a lot of republicans wearing a democrat mask worried the democrats are coming to take the democrats back from them


[15-Feb-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them have republican interests, they just arent as batshit about it


[15-Feb-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie meanwhile has no interest in the republicans and their money train of a party


[15-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and is looking to transform the party for the people instead of for the corporations


[15-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The unironic Bloomberg stans I've seen


[15-Feb-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of current moderates aren't moderate because they have democratic ideals, they're moderate because Trump owns the republicans


[15-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
de Blasio said he's spent years undoing the damage


[15-Feb-20 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But de Blasio is also shit so


[15-Feb-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump hadnt gotten elected in 2016 we;d be looking at a different democratic campaign base with several of the current democrats runnning as straight up republicans


[15-Feb-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted it woudl still be full of neoliberals


[15-Feb-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt be a great change from now but the moderates in the democratic party would be slightly less extreme than they are currently


[15-Feb-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie also probably wouldnt be leading liek he is


[15-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hillary likely would because she would be president right now and would be up for re-election


[15-Feb-20 05:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She always had too much baggage


[15-Feb-20 05:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit if the run were Kaine/Clinton he would have probably won


[15-Feb-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but people wouldnt want to rock the boat since she;s a democrat


[15-Feb-20 05:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boring moderate who stays quiet


[15-Feb-20 05:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I think Bernie will pick


[15-Feb-20 05:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brown or Bennet or something


[15-Feb-20 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or maybe he'll pick another progressive, who knows


[15-Feb-20 05:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Beto? Abrams? Idk


[15-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the major problem with the current democratic party is that it;s conservatives and neo liberals, they want to be on the good side of republicans because the republicans are the party of corporate which means if they play nice they get money from them.


[15-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
superpacs have been especially bad at exacerbating this problem


[15-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it basically means both parties are differing levels of republicans, however both parties are not the same


[15-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the line has been getting larger and larger with each election season


[15-Feb-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more progressives have shown up in the democratic field unwilling to give into the corporate greed, while republicans have become mroe unhinged and terrified of losing power to these young upstarts


[15-Feb-20 05:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483234-trump-quotes-ny-times-article-citing-emerson-quote-about-going-after

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Trump quotes NY Times article citing Emerson quote about going afte...
President Trump on Saturday tweeted a New York Times article with a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote about going after the "king," prompting the phrase "you are not a king" to quickly trend on social media.
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[15-Feb-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he finally called himself a king


[15-Feb-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, a second time anyway. last year he called himself the king of isreal


[15-Feb-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats can and hopefully will turn themselves around and become a force for progress instead of a neo liberal nightmare entity


[15-Feb-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but right now it;s basically the corporate party of clinton vs the progressive party of sanders


[15-Feb-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/02/15/bloomberg-reportedly-considering-hillary-clinton-as-his-running-mate/

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Bloomberg reportedly considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate
Bloomberg’s internal polling has found the combo “would be a formidable force,” campaign sources told the Drudge Report Saturday.
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[15-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock


[15-Feb-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[15-Feb-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also the female is on the secondary role, but Hillary stanning liberal feminists won't care


[15-Feb-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is why she didnt bother running, she probably knew the party would crawl back to her and make her a running mate


[15-Feb-20 06:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[15-Feb-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie isnt the cult leader, clinton is, the cult has just lost control of the peasants


[15-Feb-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the peasants want sanders because fuck the cult


[15-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why run for president when you can be the running mate of another candidate who will also lose to trump


[15-Feb-20 06:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mike might be racist enough tho


[15-Feb-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has conncentration camps


[15-Feb-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thats the thing, bloomberg is far richer, but he doesnt have a brainwashed base, the ice militia, and tv level charisma to back himself up


[15-Feb-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
inn the gnerals he also wont have debates to bakc his ass up and make him mroe popular


[15-Feb-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will only have ads


[15-Feb-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump meanwhile while not going to debates, will appear at every event his followers go to to make them feel special and wanted


[15-Feb-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
throwing money only gets you so far in a shitflinging contest


[15-Feb-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is better at flinging kindergarten shit but he will bury you in it


[15-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg meanwhile will attempt to take the high road and use clever insults to poke at trump and prod him just enough to set him off


[15-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg can also be dragged to Trump's level which is where trump excels


[15-Feb-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg is also running as a democrat


[15-Feb-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being recist enough is not where you want to be in the generals


[15-Feb-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might work better in the primaries but once you get into the generals all of your racist laundry gets brought out by trump who has done far mroe racist shit and has the balls of many corporations in a vice grip


[15-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
bloomberg is paying people to make memes for him


[15-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
bernie supporters do it much better and for free


[15-Feb-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also much like the 2016 election a lot of voters will take their shit to third parties if thye need to because the lesser evil is not a compromise they want


[15-Feb-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vote blue no matter who only works when the democrat running actually is a democrat


[15-Feb-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if bloomberg got the nomination it would be red vs red


[15-Feb-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if bloomberg wins nomination you can count me out of voting for a democrat because bloomberg isnt a democrat


[15-Feb-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same for buttman


[15-Feb-20 06:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Made this in a few seconds


[15-Feb-20 06:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[15-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking can't be Beto.


[15-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Beto is one of those "nah it's okay to lokk up all the minorities, I knew those people" people.


[15-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg could totally pikk Beto as VP.


[15-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brown then.


[15-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you ever see American Factory


[15-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[15-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so a factory closed in Ohio, got reopened by the Chinese


[15-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sherrod Brown comes to the opening and talks about how he hopes that this new plant will be union too


[15-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the managers starts talking about wanting to assassinate him right there


[15-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(An American one)


[15-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an extremely anti China documentary. But you can't blame it.


[15-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/15/bernie-sanders-tops-other-democrats-trump-likability-ipsos-poll/4754500002/

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In a USA TODAY/Ipsos poll, 40% of voters said they admired Bernie Sanders’ character, above many of his Democratic rivals and Donald Trump.
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[15-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-administration-deploy-border-patrol-officers-sanctuary-cities-n1137261

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Trump administration to deploy Border Patrol agents to sanctuary ci...
This comes as the administration has repeatedly targeted sanctuary cities that limit cooperation with immigration enforcement authorities.
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[15-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean, voters actually like a politician because he's a good person and not simply because all other options were removed for them? :tempsurprise:


[15-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh so a funny scene from American Factory


[15-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Chinese owner of the plant is trying to make the front office look nice and gets mad that the fire alarm light can't be removed or moved to the floor


[15-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They also ordered a sign that was in broken English.


[15-Feb-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1228562225482412033?s=19

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https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1228562225482412033?s=19
When the audience began booing Maher’s joke castigating liberals for calling Bloomberg a racist, he sniped, “Keep booing—that’s how you lost the last election.”

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[15-Feb-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thank you, Bill Maher, very cool


[15-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You think bad things are bad? What a loser!"


[15-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck off Maher, Mike basically did a "Despite making up..." rant to justify shit no one should be subject to


[15-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
HRMM, that "how *you* lost" is really sus, Maher...


[15-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every lost election Dems always get these "Guys we need to start being racist to win" people


[15-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Used to be true.


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
You must giv these people no quarter.


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
maher is a half broken clock


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
and his studio audience is a bunch of morons


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah until the 2016 election it was true


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
We need to force these people out of politics permanently.


[15-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media should be blaring at all times of the day that Maher is a scumbag.


[15-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want Bernie to call him out like he did Carvile


[15-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Bloomberg gets in a debate, Bernie had better roast him.


[15-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Which is more fun, wasting money on ads or obsessing about the soda people drink?"


[15-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Do you enjoy your two ounce soda while your successors clean up your mess?"


[15-Feb-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the sensible response to "people drink too much soda" is "increase access to superior alternatives"


[15-Feb-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
bloomberg just hates poor people


[15-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do that in addition to what he did


[15-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not just one thing works


[15-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soda tax >>>> limits on quantity size


[15-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could give people a free water when they buy soda and there will be people who won't drink it


[15-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have both a tax and limit


[15-Feb-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
my school does not seem to understand that if they want people to stop drinking soda, they need to make alternatives like milk less outrageously expensive


[15-Feb-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
well, doesn't understand or doesn't care, because it gives pepsi money if they sell more cola


[15-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you made soda $5


[15-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And made milk and water free


[15-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd still not have much milk or water sold


[15-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd have people either not drink anything or addicts fully willing to spend $5


[15-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Doing it alone will do nothing


[15-Feb-20 07:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking can confirm I drink soda because it taste good and is willing to pay a premium


[15-Feb-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't really care about the addicts in this case, what I care more about is the people who would otherwise prefer not to get soda but only get it becaues it's less expensive


[15-Feb-20 07:54 PM] jlun2#8758
to the health nuts, its clearly because I want diabetes ofc


[15-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, price is the main thing, Its


[15-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why soda taxes work


[15-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people almost always are drinking soda because it's the only cheap flavored drink.


[15-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most are not addicted to it strongly.


[15-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some people will still drink soda when it's expensive, but they're mainly people that are more well-off.


[15-Feb-20 07:57 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for mainstream media to finally show fat people as poor, instead of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_cat_(term)

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Fat cat is a political term originally describing a rich political donor, also called an angel or big money man.The New York Times has described fat cats as symbols of "a deeply corrupt campaign finance system riddled with loopholes", with Americans seeing them as recipients o...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/The_Subsidised_Mineowner.jpg


[15-Feb-20 07:57 PM] jlun2#8758
maybe I'm sheltered, but most fat people I know aren't rich


[15-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking up statistics about nutrition


[15-Feb-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
yet media keeps showing rich people as fat


[15-Feb-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
its weird


[15-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
40% of the caloric intake of kids is empty calories


[15-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And of that 40% it's the same six things


[15-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Soda, fruit drinks, dairy desserts, grain desserts, pizza, and whole milk


[15-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chocolate milk should not be served in schools.


[15-Feb-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
chocolate milk is decidedly better for you than soda


[15-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course you now have the Trump administration rolling back all of these rules and allowing shit like kids being able to eat cheese filled bread sticks and chocolate milk for lunch


[15-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is not.


[15-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like saying a candy apple is eating an apple.


[15-Feb-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
uh, it is


[15-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You've basically negated any positive that could come from drinking milk


[15-Feb-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
are you ok


[15-Feb-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not how nutrition works


[15-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A salad drenched in dressing is not healthy


[15-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sugar doesn't negate the positives it just makes you fat


[15-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are very important reasons to eat fruit that are not about becoming fat.


[15-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with "empty calories" is they let your body make fat reserves without giving you vital nutrients to run things correctly.


[15-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Americans eat like 3500 calories a day on average which is just nuts.


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans also consider pizza a vegetable so consider the starting point


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I drink a bubble tea for snack and that's 500 calories


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking fallacious, also wrong.


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
A cupcake is another 500 calories. That's a 1k calorie "snack"


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pizza is one of the healthiest things Americans eat.


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
No joke.


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
a calorie is a calorie is a calorie


[15-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you ate nothing but pizza you'd be very alright.


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
the reason we talk about "empty calories" is because some foods do not provide balanced nutrition


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
(just don't eat like more than one whole pizza a day)


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the guy who said the McDonald's hamburger is the most efficient caloric intake per cost thing you can buy


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html

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McDouble is 'cheapest and most nutritious food in human history'
Describing the McDonald’s double cheeseburger as “the cheapest, most   nutritious, and bountiful food that has ever existed in human history” might   seem beyond fanciful, but according to the author of Freakonomics, it is not   as absurd a suggestion as it appears.
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02630/mcdonalds_2630497k.jpg


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's true tho


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
👍


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But pizza need half a litre of soda to go down, ofc


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need to understand what's actually going on.


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
milk is one of those foods that is almost self sufficient as a nutrition source on its own


[15-Feb-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
too bad it's not filling and I end up eating 3


[15-Feb-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
even if you add extra sugar to make it more palatable, that doesn't change the fact that it gives you fats and proteins and an assortment of minerals as well


[15-Feb-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
soda is based on distilled water. it doesn't have any of that.


[15-Feb-20 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need. **Need** these things:
1. Calories.
2. Salt.
3. Fiber.
4. Vitamins.
5. Minerals.
6. Antioxidants.


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Milk is pretty sweet on its own, not sure why you'd add sugar


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If any one of these is missing your health will decline.


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
I cannot taste the sweetness of lactose


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] jlun2#8758
I have impaired taste buds and most things taste plain


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the first two, too much will also make your health decline.


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
galactose yes


[15-Feb-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
lactose no


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, @Itsthinking, if you're poor, priority #1 is calories


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rest you just get unhealthy without


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
calories you **die** without


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protein and fat hav double the caloric density of carbs.


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So your best bet is like, pork/beef/dairy


[15-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Failing that, carbs in the form of sugar are retardedly cheap and so can be bought in giant bulk quantities.


[15-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You may note that cheeseburgers are essentially just fat and protein in a carb holder.


[15-Feb-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also dairy and meat are absolutely loaded with important vitamins and minerals.


[15-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to why pizza is better than some cheeseburger, @Itsthinking:
1. The sauce provides extra fiber and more vitamin variety.
2. More dairy vs. beef (dairy is about as good nutritionally, but beef has downsides).
3. More bread (so more fiber), so a little more balanced.


[15-Feb-20 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
just to be a little bit nitpicky, the ordering I learned in neuroscience class was slightly different


[15-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah you die without certain minerals but I was ordering by a combination of importance and scarcity.


[15-Feb-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
1. salt
2. calories
3. vitamins
4. other minerals
5. antioxidants


[15-Feb-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
normally you don't have to worry about salt


[15-Feb-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
it's in everything you eat


[15-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fiber is important to list because it's surprisingly scarce in a modern diet relative to how much you need.


[15-Feb-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
potassium is also worth mentioning


[15-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so the big problem, @Itsthinking, is that for centuries, in Europe rich people ground their bread more to make it white as a sign of how rich they were.


[15-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
White bread is bread without most of the fiber.


[15-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff like bread, potatoes, corn, or rice can totally provide all your fiber needs...if you **only** eat it.


[15-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
But we eat a lot of meat and dairy to get those juice vitamins and minerals.


[15-Feb-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And all that delicious fat.


[15-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So combine bread with less fiber with a ton of food with no fiber and you get a severe fiber deficiency that means you don't feel full very long and your gut bacteria aren't balanced right.


[15-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means you eat more calories, sleep worse, poop worse, hav a worse immune system, etc. etc.


[15-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which leads to exhausted, fat, constipated, weak people.


[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless it's for a burger, this is the bread I eat

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[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tastes better than brownbread as well


[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wholegrain or whatever it's called


[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] jlun2#8758
my mom tells me to eat that but herself never does


[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I refuse to eat buns at all, they're stupidly sweet and fluffy and I hate it.


[15-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same for like "dinner rolls"


[15-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
fukk no I'm not eating sweetened white bread as a dessert.


[15-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, in lieu of actual whole vegetables and fruits, pizza is decent, @Itsthinking.


[15-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ideally, people would be eating like


[15-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
fish, beans, bananas, peanuts, yogurt, and cheese


[15-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you can't hav *everyone* eating that.


[15-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would take too much space to farm all the beans.


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Vertical greenhouses


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
delete china and india first, then it'll work


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I see baked beans served in hotels, but I swear no one touches them lol


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
baked beans are hilariously sweet


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, a quikk patch to a modern diet is usually just to add beans.


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Aren't baked b-


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[15-Feb-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't even eat them most of the time


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just so offensively sweet


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kidney beans are great


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I dislike the texture of beans.


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
White beans have no taste and just dissolve, don't like em


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
huh. I don;t touch them because I find them plain, so unless there's a super salty dish I ignore the beans


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I only eat green beans.


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I grew up in a household that cooked a lot of mexican dishes


[15-Feb-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
beans, particularly black beans, are essential in the kitchen


[15-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
My family is weirdly averse to like half of fruits and veggies.


[15-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really odd mix that made it hard to figure out what I was missing in my diet.


[15-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like okay, prunes are fine, but NO SPINACH


[15-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so beans tend to either be baked or green.


[15-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I found spinach surprisingly tasty


[15-Feb-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
spanakopita is life changing


[15-Feb-20 08:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I thought spanish hating was a media meme, not legit thing


[15-Feb-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
because american cartoons all have the same writers idk


[15-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Greens will taste awful if not cooked properly


[15-Feb-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
the cooking process destroys fiber components


[15-Feb-20 08:31 PM] jlun2#8758
that i agree. too bad it seems americans love salad covered in dressing then call it "healthy"


[15-Feb-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not that it's necessarily bad to cook it


[15-Feb-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just that you might not be getting the fiber you think you are when you do


[15-Feb-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
cellulose is made of hydrogen bonded, sometimes cross-linked polymer chains composed of a glucose monomer unit


[15-Feb-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
cooking breaks the bonds of these polymers and frees up the monomer units


[15-Feb-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
I rather have less healthy, but palateable vegetables


[15-Feb-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
and not be like those  fat health nuts


[15-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Actually, eating only vegies make you fat


[15-Feb-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
not necessarily


[15-Feb-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
it has to do with the amount you eat


[15-Feb-20 08:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Vegies have little "nutrition" value than fatty foods.


[15-Feb-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
that is not true


[15-Feb-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
in fact, many things we consider vegetables themselves _are_ fatty foods


[15-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_side eyes squashes_


[15-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Really?


[15-Feb-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil

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Vegetable oil
Vegetable oils, or vegetable fats, are oils extracted from seeds, or less often, from other parts of fruits. Like animal fats, vegetable fats are mixtures of triglycerides. Soybean oil, rapeseed oil, and cocoa butter are examples of fats from seeds. Olive oil, palm oil, and ri...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Olive_oil_from_Oneglia.jpg/1200px-Olive_oil_from_Oneglia.jpg


[15-Feb-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.thedailybeast.com/girls-line-up-to-give-him-oral-sex-as-a-present-say-bloomberg-lawsuits-unearthed

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‘Girls Line Up to Give Him [Oral Sex] as a Present’: Bloomberg Laws...
Newly unearthed court documents paint a disturbing picture of sexist behavior by former New York mayor and Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg.
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[15-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The high fiber in most vegetables will prevent massive overeating.


[15-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Very fatty.

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[15-Feb-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
congrats on picking an example with relatively less fat. this has nothing to do with the claim "eating only vegies make you fat" [sic]


[15-Feb-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk  so Bloomberg 2020 is a given, considering people keep voting for sex offenders


[15-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] Then explain.


[15-Feb-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
getting fat has to do with overall calorie intake levels


[15-Feb-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
the property of a food being sweet has no bearing on whether it will make you fat


[15-Feb-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
the amount you eat does


[15-Feb-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
if you eat a lot of any particular type of food, doesn't matter what, you can get fat


[15-Feb-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
plants and plant products have an advantage because the fiber in them causes you to feel full more rapidly


[15-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What does make you feel full for longer?


[15-Feb-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
fats and fiber


[15-Feb-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
if you want an example of a _particularly_ fatty plant, why not this

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[15-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And for some reason it is not included into salad kits...


[15-Feb-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
why is that vegetable oil contained in a flask that makes it look like some kind of magical potion


[15-Feb-20 08:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because of unusual round shape and cork


[15-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And there is particular reason to advertise *and enforce* "sugar-free" and "low-fat". As you mentioned "fat and fiber" makes one full, then excluding fat from low fiber food make them useless...


[15-Feb-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
trying to make foods sugar free is a stupid idea


[15-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I believe that type of flask was common in the 19th century for oil in general, @Crow


[15-Feb-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
so is trying to make foods fat free


[15-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(and spirits)


[15-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Small pouring spout with cork, nice wide base.


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good for when you need to dab oil on things.


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
🛢️


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
shit


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
🇺🇸


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
here comes the bombs


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
💣💣💣


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
I mean


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
freedom


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
☢️


[15-Feb-20 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/29/energy-department-molecules-freedom-fossil-fuel-rebranding

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US energy department rebrands fossil fuels as 'molecules of freedom'
Press release from department said increasing export capacity is ‘critical to spreading freedom gas throughout the world’
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7f298ab98a712df947834db2b6f3af67030502bd/0_389_5073_3045/master/5073.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&enable=upscale&s=a694b75f00355f90e5c88a02c186b2c0


[15-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Freedom gas...


[15-Feb-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
🍑 💨 🇺🇸 💥


[15-Feb-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
No wonder we hav so many cows.


[15-Feb-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And cows are better represented than people in our Senate.


[15-Feb-20 09:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] very stupid idea indeed. Here "activist" group managed to enforce sugar tax to "promote healthy lifestyle". This led to slight issues in economy and some soda drinks ruined.


[15-Feb-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
to be clear, it's acceptable to me to tax foods that use only refined or added sugar (just not at the expense of poor people, please)


[15-Feb-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no reason to try to modify foods that are naturally or necessarily sugary, because they tend to come with substantial amounts of fiber as well


[15-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In this case it is soda drinks like cola. And authorities now think about plopping tax on inherent juice sugar.


[15-Feb-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"soda drinks like cola"


[15-Feb-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As a texan...


[15-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
we have a lot of original drinks, which were ruined already by sweeter/sugar mix. "Low kilojoule drink" my ass.


[15-Feb-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/483187-gop-climate-plan-faces-pushback-from-republicans

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GOP climate plan faces pushback — from Republicans
Republicans’ new climate plan was meant to show voters the party cares about climate change, but it’s also illustrating the difficult tightrope the GOP walks on green issues as it faces internal pushback.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mccarthykevin_021320getty_climate.jpg


[15-Feb-20 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
`“The next step needs to be the trash can for this stuff,” said Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), who has advocated for more carbon in the atmosphere, arguing it will spur plant growth. `

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[15-Feb-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fact that he's from kentucky makes it weirdly less surprising


[15-Feb-20 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938
Ok he's weeping 


Inside Trump's week of rage and retribution https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/inside-trump-s-week-rage-retribution-n1136401

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Inside Trump's week of rage and retribution
With impeachment behind him, the president's advisers say there is little incentive for him to hold his fire — with more moves to come.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_07/3232046/200215-donald-trump-ONE_TIME_USE_ONLY-mn-1240_8cfca1a6f40a4f60440837c62c721516.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[15-Feb-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-facebook/treat-us-like-something-between-a-telco-and-a-newspaper-says-facebooks-zuckerberg-idUSKBN2090MA

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Treat us like something between a telco and a newspaper, says Faceb...
Online content should be regulated with a system somewhere between the existing ...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200215&t=2&i=1490734718&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG1E0D4


[15-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, let's regulate your ads like crazy, then.


[15-Feb-20 11:30 PM] ononim#8141
Can't wait for him to go to central park


[15-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/678361552331735041/unknown.png

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[15-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Would be comical if not real


[15-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who got eternally BTFO by a furry


[16-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a mix of Gatsby and Howard Hughes


[16-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's rich as fuck but he strikes me as someone that cares too much about being validated and respected to the point that he's probably depressed


[16-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which given he's kind of a shit, good


[16-Feb-20 12:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Microsoft dodged a bullet with this guy.


[16-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had a bad attitude about game design btw.


[16-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wanted Minecraft to NEVER hav a tutorial.


[16-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even now players their first time are hopelessly lost without a wiki


[16-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and veteran players need to look up all sorts of shit all the time


[16-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's very depressed


[16-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wrote about how he threw a big party and felt alone and talked to no one


[16-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The question that got him to break down on Twitter btw was


[16-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What did you sell your happiness for, Notch?"


[16-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He could, like, open a soup kitchen


[16-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But instead he mopes on twitter from his absurdly overpriced mansion


[16-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he sends donations to people on Twitch sometimes too


[16-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The fact that the first thing he did with his billions is move to LA and buy the richest mansion available just blows my mind


[16-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah...


[16-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how the crew at mojang when the deal went down feel like


[16-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine whiplash from "now we work for The Man" to "oh thank christ he got bought out"


[16-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How has one of the senators from Rhode Island not run for president


[16-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine President Whitehouse


[16-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would be great


[16-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Whitehouse press secretary has announced that the Whitehouse administration was set to unveil a new package of financial restructuring, in what is sure to be a boon to the approval of the Whitehouse Whitehouse


[16-Feb-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/15/bloomberg-is-considering-hillary-clinton-as-his-running-mate-says-matt-drudge.html

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Bloomberg is considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate, says ...
Presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg is considering Hilary Clinton as a vice presidential running mate after positive internal polling about the potential pairing, the Drudge Report said.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106234925-1573245287723hill.jpg?v=1573245317


[16-Feb-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-wall-support-border-mexico-texas-a9336956.html

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Trump supporter upset border wall is being built on his property
'To have that wall there is just going to really disturb me'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/01/09/08/border-wall.jpg


[16-Feb-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Feb-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
credulous boomer rube


[16-Feb-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/4/3/4362ca46-3a7d-43e8-a3ec-be0245705722/6E1A0F30F9204E380A7AD0C84EC572EC.doc148.pdf


[16-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated, all the talk of food earlier made me go prepare a burger with a golden cayenne and two garlic cloves, and damn is it good


[16-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[16-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i made chicken thighs


[16-Feb-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hahahah /fuck/ bloomberg


[16-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think what he meant really is "demand this from your employees"


[16-Feb-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey that reminds me


[16-Feb-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
my job put up posters the other day for some *wonderful* new program. You ready for this?


[16-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So did Bloomberg piss and shit himself all the time


[16-Feb-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a thing that lets you pull money out of your paycheck before you get it. Sorta like a payday loan, except there's no interest rate


[16-Feb-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, if you want it before the next business day, there's a fee


[16-Feb-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, ATM inside a football stadium level fee


[16-Feb-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you see the problem here? I sure do


[16-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
$15 cashout, $10 fee


[16-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ATMs in the "popular" streets here have absurd fees


[16-Feb-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I sure love having to buy my own monney


[16-Feb-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh and on top of that there's a fee to actually *transfer* the money to your account, regardless of how soon you want it


[16-Feb-20 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's literally a system designed to profit off of people who have to live paycheck to paycheck and the employer is getting a cut of it, *I think*


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast the CEO is


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your manager probably isnt


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Definitely is


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
either that, or this company (as it is third-party) is double-dipping into the company


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Else it wouldn't exist


[16-Feb-20 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is, the CEO is paying some amount to the service, and then they're taking a cut from the employees as well


[16-Feb-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now that I've told you all *that,* have a gander at the "about" page for these sharks https://www.dailypay.com/about

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About Us | DailyPay: Technology for Getting Paid Daily
DailyPay allows employees to control when they get paid, empowering them to meet financial goals, pay bills on time, and reach financial security.
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[16-Feb-20 01:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean even once you get through the blatant lies of their values, there's all the job titles of the "team"


[16-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This site looks evil


[16-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like what an AI would build as part of a soylent green scheme


[16-Feb-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know what it made *me* think of when I first saw it?


[16-Feb-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Shadow.


[16-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fraud Guarantee


[16-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reality is a comedy but no one's laughing


[16-Feb-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i see thye jsut grabbed random stock images off google for their "team"


[16-Feb-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...did they?


[16-Feb-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know, they look way too corporate like "Oh these silly fucks will totally make you trust us loveable corporate tyrants!"


[16-Feb-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look at their wacky faces! We won't lie to you!"


[16-Feb-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what everyone in silicon valley looks like, I swear


[16-Feb-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone in silicone valley looks liek aliving stock image


[16-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Don't ever take a lunch break or go to the bathroom"


[16-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, how to kill yourself.


[16-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is definitely good advice in general for modern workers, tho you'd ideally tell them to use a gun instead.


[16-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Between that and the Clinton VP rumour, it's like they want people to vote for Trump


[16-Feb-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt surprise me if there;s party sabotage going on


[16-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly I think their egos and sense of entitlement is just that massive


[16-Feb-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Came from Drudge tho


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clinton believes with all her being she's owed


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was one of the focal poinnts of her campaign in 2016


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She genuinely was among the most qualified people to ever run


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shame she's unlikeable.


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Satan is also very qualified


[16-Feb-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her ego would eclipse every decision she makes


[16-Feb-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she would make reactionary decisions liek trump based off people slighting her even a little


[16-Feb-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only difference is she wouldnt wear it on her face


[16-Feb-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she isnt the same as trump, but she does have some of the same reactionary problems he does


[16-Feb-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Satan has real experience in running a system.


[16-Feb-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, he's got experience in both parties' administrations.


[16-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was the snake in the Garden of Eden really evil


[16-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He gave man free will


[16-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was offering a red pill.


[16-Feb-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when she lost 2016 she couldnt fit her tantrum on twitter so she took a few months off and raged it into a book and then released it to the public


[16-Feb-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
bloomberg's campaign is a false flag operation made to make the democrats look bad


[16-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
No no, the Democratic party is a false flag operation to make liberals look bad.


[16-Feb-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[16-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've noticed that the stereotypical liberal elite tend to like Warren a lot, or Bloomberg


[16-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And their blood boils when they see Sanders


[16-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Typical.


[16-Feb-20 02:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If Pete Bootycheg wins.

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[16-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1228134390057795585

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BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan)
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1228134390057795585
I myself was a "victim" of the stop and frisk policies under Bloomberg.

3 times in one month, when I lived in the sketchy East New York section of Brooklyn.

That said, if Bloomberg somehow ends up as the nominee, I'll vote for him. It's THAT serious.

NO. MATTER. WHO.
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[16-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah Trump would stop and frisk nationwide.


[16-Feb-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
hello freakouts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwOTbbwEdbs

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwOTbbwEdbs
Top Clips of the Week: Trump Ogles Daughter, Bernie 1st in Polls, P...
0:00-7:29 Trump Reveals Attraction to Daughter While Lying Uncontrollably  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9FOt5sguzM

7:29-13:07 Trump's Vocabulary & Speech Deteriorating Rapidly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bh5wE1d7uo

13:07-18:46 CAPS LOCK Trump Explodes in 2-Day Twitt...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rwOTbbwEdbs/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem with two parties.


[16-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get really bad, or really really bad.


[16-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just posted that already.


[16-Feb-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/417bepcyo4h41.png

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[16-Feb-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
"Education 4 Libs"


[16-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can only assume that history is repeating itself because no one of any real importance [in office] learned from it :shrugpony:


[16-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eww liberal arts


[16-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just learn to code

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[16-Feb-20 02:54 AM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru school made me hate history a lot


[16-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. I should rephrase that perhaps... 🤔


[16-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I did learn to code, sometimes I'd rather liberal arts


[16-Feb-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
school made me hate a lot of non-science courses tbh


[16-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
oh btw E4L is the same person who railed against M4A then started a gofundme for his grandpa's cancer


[16-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it's big brain time


[16-Feb-20 02:56 AM] jlun2#8758
did anyone fund him?


[16-Feb-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I think so


[16-Feb-20 02:57 AM] jlun2#8758
I guess he has millions of fans


[16-Feb-20 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/wGvBuRa.jpg

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The NYPD must be stopped.
https://i.imgur.com/wGvBuRa.png


[16-Feb-20 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
There's no onion emoji


[16-Feb-20 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
sad


[16-Feb-20 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It was a fashion magazine that broke the rules on reporting about the camps wasn't it?


[16-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really?


[16-Feb-20 03:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think it was Vogue.


[16-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483262-biden-urges-sanders-to-take-accountability-for-supporters-threats-on

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Biden urges Sanders to take accountability for supporters' threats ...
Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden criticized fellow candidate Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_012920gn30_lead_0.jpg


[16-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😂


[16-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Anime Avatars™ said bad things about me online this is your fault >:CCC"


[16-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Immediately Discarded™


[16-Feb-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
@Marukomuru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tj-Hp7AYlk

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Ashley Lynch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tj-Hp7AYlk
Rick Wilson MSNBC Trump's Fans Are Childless Single Men Who Masturb...
Rick Wilson blasted Trump's Alt Right followers on MSNBC.
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[16-Feb-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
>  It's called hentai, and it's art


[16-Feb-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
>  Donald Trump will make anime real.


[16-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not with Pence as VP, that would never happen.


[16-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You basically need a president who recognizes lumpenproletariat as people


[16-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course all of Marx is dumb because he never thought democracies would give in a little when in fact they would


[16-Feb-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we cant attack you because you're too clean, so we;re going to attack your supporters because that will totally make them look like nazi soldiers to outside independents!"


[16-Feb-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> In the interview with host Chuck Todd set to air on Sunday, Biden said, “You know me well enough to know if any of my supporters did that, I’d disown them. Flat disown them."
> 
> “The stuff that was said online. The way they threatened these two women who are leaders in that culinary union. It is outrageous. Just — just go online,” he continued. 
> 
> "[Sanders] may not be responsible for it, but he has some accountability."
> 
> The culinary union — one the most influential unions in Nevada — was bashed by Sanders supporters online for distributing flyers that said his "Medicare for All" proposal would “end culinary health care” by replacing private plans with government-run insurance.
> 
> The union responded, calling the attacks "disappointing."


[16-Feb-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'mma share this because I am unusually proud of it https://derpibooru.org/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=4699219#post_4699219

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[16-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chuck Todd is awful.


[16-Feb-20 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
To be fair when unions also are degraded so much to become an insurance company as that Nevada union became, you know they're lost.


[16-Feb-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Wasn't that one scotus shooter a bernie supporter?"- hill comments in response to criticizing a union for being slimy


[16-Feb-20 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Weren't all those incel terrorists a few years back Trump supporters?" I ask in response, with a bored-ass look on my face because these quips don't really matter beyond being empty rhetorical devices.


[16-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hill commenters have an overlap with Equestria Daily commenters


[16-Feb-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk I thought American media "supports" the cause of said incels (just not the incels themselves; ie. media hates virigins and promotes "losing" virginity)


[16-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
also whenever The Hill posts a union related article at a lunch time and people are anti union I laugh


[16-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
New verse to a union song I heard recently


[16-Feb-20 04:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 You never know what anyone really wants because when it comes to incels at least journalists are mostly all sexually depraved coom brains as well who will go from, "I had sex, I have lots of sex. Here's the secret: it's shit" to "are American males getting enough sex" in the space of an editorial opinion column.


[16-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"They say you need no union if your collar isn't blue! That's just another lie the boss is telling you, for the union makes us strong!"


[16-Feb-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
american men are not getting enough sex


[16-Feb-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also not that good


[16-Feb-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I can hold both views simultaneously


[16-Feb-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
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[16-Feb-20 02:01 PM] Crow#5457
comrats


[16-Feb-20 03:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump pushed CIA to find, kill Osama bin Laden's son over higher priority targets


[16-Feb-20 03:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-pushed-cia-find-kill-osama-bin-laden-s-son-n1135101

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Trump urged CIA to find, kill Osama's son over higher priority targets
When the CIA gave Trump a list of major terror leaders to kill, he said he'd never heard of them. Instead he focused on a target with a famous name.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_06/3218716/200206-hamza-bin-laden-cs-803a_b38e70553e902b1ec20a638f26a10a4c.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[16-Feb-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock, he wants to play obama's shadow


[16-Feb-20 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/483206-democrats-fear-rule-of-law-crumbling-under-trump

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Democrats fear rule of law crumbling under Trump
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https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_stoneroger_021420gn_split_ruleoflaw.jpg


[16-Feb-20 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee, it's almost like that happens when an entire section of the legislative branch gives him no reason to follow the law


[16-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/2x5rbha.jpg

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He was asking for it tbh
https://i.imgur.com/2x5rbha.jpg


[16-Feb-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483269-sanders-goes-after-bloomberg-he-wont-create-energy-needed-to-beat-trump

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[16-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
If you really don't want to be hit with a baseball bat, the human body has ways to shut it down and avoid impact


[16-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
> Why didn’t he try to kick the baseball bat in the crotch? If he didn’t struggle at all, how was the baseball bat supposed to know it was committing assault?


[16-Feb-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
> It's his heads fault, going out in public with all that exposed cranium. If it didn't want to get hit with a bat, it would have been more modest. After all, bats will be bats.


[16-Feb-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his head was very ball shaped, the bat couldnt have known the difference


[16-Feb-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
> ALLEGEDLY! We can’t rush to make a judgement on this. He says she hit him in the head with a bat, and there is evidence he was hit in the head with a bat, but how do we know he didn’t hit the bat with his head just to ruin this poor woman’s reputation? People say and do all kinds of things for attention. We shouldn’t rush to judgment.


[16-Feb-20 04:50 PM] LemonDrop#9571
People have funny ways of justifying violence these days


[16-Feb-20 04:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I kinda don't understand those jokes, like in one vein I see they are making fun of the guy's silly sign


[16-Feb-20 04:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
But at the same time they are also justifying the action


[16-Feb-20 04:52 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's actually a logical contridiction and kinda incredible because you can't figure out what they are implying


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
....


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They aren't


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Well I mean for example the reply


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Are they saying that this guy deserved to be hit on the head


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
everything that was written here is a thing people have said about rapists


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
And if not then are they rejecting the validity of that analogy


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're mocking the same arguments conservatives use against rape victims


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I get that part


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but again are they using it to justify him being hit on the head


[16-Feb-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I doubt that


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
you're reading too far into it


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
But fair enough


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're not saying he deserved it, they're transposing the situation in a mocking manner in the hopes maybe people will "get it"


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Obviously in this case it failed


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For one person at least


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's poe's law stuff


[16-Feb-20 04:54 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I can't tell if they are being stupid or actually making a joke


[16-Feb-20 04:55 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Because I can legitimately see people justifying it like that think it's funny and not understanding the irony of that


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Perhaps it's just because of what it's replying to that is confusing me


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh no not this dude again


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean why would you reply to something like that with such a thing


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
like yeah the guy is a dumbass


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder why we give you second chances


[16-Feb-20 04:56 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but it's strange because it's still assault and you can't just go xd let's make some funne jokes to downplay it cus bad man said bad words


[16-Feb-20 04:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
People forgot how to be nice to eachother


[16-Feb-20 04:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Poor man =[


[16-Feb-20 04:57 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they just use anything as a weapon to fuel their political agenda


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, when we act nice and understanding to each other, y'all accuse us of acting like SJW's when we display sincere offense at certain things


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's only a preacher with influence over what others think and do telling them to go rape women


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
See teaspoon that's what I mean


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you are legitimately acting like they deserve it


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mockery is the only thing we can resort to now, in a way


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
which is again ironic considering the context


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
If you are not going to sympathize with them then how can you expect people treat women the same way


[16-Feb-20 04:58 PM] LemonDrop#9571
What kind of double standard bullshittery is this


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't respect women anyway


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it's good to know you're dense enough that that bat wouldn't've made a dent on you


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] ononim#8141
because he did a thing first that threatens overs


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] ononim#8141
women, just by existing don't do that


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Words are words


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
You can't beat someone up for words


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Words can also signal intent


[16-Feb-20 04:59 PM] LemonDrop#9571
And no these aren't fighting words


[16-Feb-20 05:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
They clearly are just stating some political message not actually saying "xd all women should be raped"


[16-Feb-20 05:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It's just taken out of context


[16-Feb-20 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who do you mean by they?


[16-Feb-20 05:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
If anything it's probably done as an intentional thing to piss people off, idk really what their intent is but I can only guess


[16-Feb-20 05:00 PM] LemonDrop#9571
they as in the guy


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who? Bloomberg?


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
idk who that is


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Guy who got hit in the head


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
...again, who are you talking about?


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
bitch did u even scroll up to see the context of this discussion


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] LemonDrop#9571
lol


[16-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the guy who got hit with the bat


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, the preacher who got got?


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Ye


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way i don't think "you deserve to be raped" is a valid political argument under any circumstances


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also i'm pretty sure a sign that says "women deserve to be raped" is pretty clear in it;s wording that is saying women should be raped


[16-Feb-20 05:02 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I don't know the context


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
People got super pissy at Sargon for a very similar incident


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He went to a school


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and it's like well ok it was a joke guys


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
good job taking it out of context


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He started shouting that gays and women deserved to be raped


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sargon is a wanker


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And a student whacked him over his head


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I mean he's clearly just a irl shitposter


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro stans say the same thing here in Brazil when confronted with footage of the president saying some obviously heinous shit


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"It's out of context"


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Identity politics version of the westbourough baptist church


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
words are just words


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cope


[16-Feb-20 05:03 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you can't go beat the shit out of them for it


[16-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"it;s just a joke bros, no need to be offended! geez wht dont you go and get raped, man!"


[16-Feb-20 05:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Again it might be serious, if it is they are a dumbass


[16-Feb-20 05:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but that still does not justify it


[16-Feb-20 05:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do not know again why people are trying to justify beating people over the head with bats


[16-Feb-20 05:04 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Like can you curb your political bullshittery for a moment to realize that violence does not solve things


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one is justifying it, we're just using mocking deflection to make a point


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Again is that so


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh no, won't somebody think of the discourse reproducers who continue justifying an ideology that has killed significant ammounts of innocent people and continue to do so!


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Won't someone think of the homophobes?


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yes


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
If you think there's only one way to think then you are dumb


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Okay, postmodern


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Just as dumb as all those other people


[16-Feb-20 05:05 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No one is "right"


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except for climate scientists


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
it's all just based on the current state of society and etc


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the numbers


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the rape victims


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Well sure, climate change is more of a thing that is happening


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the evidence which, despite being political in nature, is still true


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
this does not mean it matters tho


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It does if we wanna continue surviving


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but perhaps if our civilization's philosophy was to destroy shit as fast as possible climate change may be a great thing


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No one is inherently "right", but the evidence is


[16-Feb-20 05:06 PM] LemonDrop#9571
you just have to think like that to realize how arbitrary a lot of stuff is


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
obvs survivial I think everyone agrees upon is fairly good


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what if we were a suicidal species!"


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but something like society and how the norms of social interaction work are very much up to interpretation


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
and they do change throughout time


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's not to interpretation are the effects of these norms


[16-Feb-20 05:07 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Yes but the interpretation of the effects is up to you


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that is why sociology and political science exist


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
for example I don't think consent existed in 10,000 BC, they just thought if you fuck more people the species survives better


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if back in the 30s when Hitler was yelling about killing jews there were people going "he's just shitposting IRL"


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] LemonDrop#9571
That was the norm back then, and now it has changed to something else cus we have beleif in freedom of choice and etc


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I don't know the context here"


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
consent absolutely existed in 10,000bc


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When a nazi bludgeons a Mexican to death out of the blue, i won't go around trying to excuse it by saying the Mexican deserved it or whatever


[16-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"It's just words"


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A nazi bludgeoned a Mexican to death


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Something should be done about it


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Words can lead to change indeed, really you can say everything is just over words


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
All conflict ever etc


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but I am not trying to say words don't mean anything, rather like


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
freedom of speech exists


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
no one has to support those words but people should be allowed to say them


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
freedom of speech does not cover calls for rape


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're just being incoherent now


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] LemonDrop#9571
It does


[16-Feb-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Nuremberg trials, they should have said "We just said words"


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's threatsa of violence which is explicitly not covered under the 1st ammendment


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, man, what a lolcow you are, Lemon


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then they'd've gotten off scot free


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
nuremberg trials were again over actions


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
actions can be motivated by words


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
but if it's just words with no one backing them then it's just speech


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
An opinion 99% of the country just laughs at


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
so why are you so afraid of it


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
99%?


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
prob more


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you so sure about that?


[16-Feb-20 05:10 PM] LemonDrop#9571
No


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
But it's my educated guess


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, the country voted a rapist into office


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do not think any sane people advocate for rape


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And half the country constantly excuses him


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Citation needed


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Citation needed"


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is the rapsit


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"grab them by the pussy"


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] LemonDrop#9571
Remember women cannot lie to get powerful figures out of office on the basis that they did something that cannot be proven


[16-Feb-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally his words


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
women always tell the truth :^)


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has litterally advocated outloud about sexual assault


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I do not follow trump religiously so I wouldn't know what he says


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] LemonDrop#9571
I think he's shitposting half the time and it russles everyone's jimmies


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@LemonDrop https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-approvers-never-stop-approving-poll/index.html

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6 in 10 who approve of Trump say they'll never, ever, ever stop app...
Most people who are on the Trump train say they are definitely, absolutely never getting off -- no matter what.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170817155917-restricted-trump-approval-thumbs-up-down-t1-super-tease.jpg


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then get the fuck out of this channel you moron


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump also raped several minors


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
muted


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[16-Feb-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks spoon


[16-Feb-20 05:18 PM] ononim#8141
based tsp


[16-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Trump raped kids...?


[16-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Uh...


[16-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat


[16-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Is there proof of this?


[16-Feb-20 05:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
:eyesshaking:


[16-Feb-20 05:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
@prism stryder(intexda)


[16-Feb-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his records with epstein and several ongoing lawsuits


[16-Feb-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s part of why epstein had to vanish


[16-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
I feel like that’s a bit extreme and find it hard to believe ngl


[16-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the Epstein witnesses said Trump was one of her rapists


[16-Feb-20 05:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
Is there evidence or just claims?


[16-Feb-20 05:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m out of the loop on this sort of stuff


[16-Feb-20 05:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Witness sworn statement before the trial


[16-Feb-20 05:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trial never happened so it's not "evidence"


[16-Feb-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
epstein got "offed" before it could happen


[16-Feb-20 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-epstein-trump-victim-suit-20200118-m6sqsa2h7venpf5uewjrkvigo4-story.html

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Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘first victim’ was introduced to Donald Trump whe...
A woman who says she was Jeffrey Epstein’s first known victim claims in a new lawsuit that the multimillionaire sex offender introduced her to Donald Trump when she was 14, saying “This is a good one, right?"
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[16-Feb-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
> Epstein, 66, killed himself in a Manhattan federal lockup while awaiting trial for sex trafficking charges.

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[16-Feb-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has also been accused of groping teenagers before a beauty pagent


[16-Feb-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
credibly accused


[16-Feb-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure half his children are also the product of rape, probably tons of illegitimate children out there too


[16-Feb-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has also expressed vocally several times that he would be tapping his daughter if she weren't his daughter. which is probably why he pushed jared kushner into marrying her because he;s like a mini trump


[16-Feb-20 05:34 PM] Sev3617#4685
I actually had no idea Epstein had any relation to trump


[16-Feb-20 05:34 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s news to me lol


[16-Feb-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
remember kids, you can't be a republican without knowing about the child sex rings


[16-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Sev3617#4685
“Kids”


[16-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ironic


[16-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Sev3617#4685
:DYING:


[16-Feb-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80

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[16-Feb-20 05:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
By the time they know this trump already has them bent over


[16-Feb-20 05:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
Bruh


[16-Feb-20 05:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s fucked


[16-Feb-20 05:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
He’s not even a politician why was he elected


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
Hillary wasn’t any better though


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he wasnt a politician and his followrrs thought that's what made a good politician


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
She wanted to nuke Russia


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
no she didn't


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
And start a war for no reason at least that’s what everyone else said at the time


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
you have done no research at all if you actually believe that


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she said she wanted to war wish russia, not nuke it


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
no she didn't say that either


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
neither of you have done any research I see


[16-Feb-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well then i;m misremembering a quote and i apologize


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton has _never_ endorsed war with russia


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Like I said im out of the loop on this sort of thing


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why did everyone say she wanted one then?


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
you were victims of the trump campaign's aggressive fearmongering


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Just hate mobbing?


[16-Feb-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
here's what actually happened


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/302713-spy-leader-clintons-syria-plan-could-lead-to-confrontation-with

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Spy chief: Clinton's Syria plan could spark conflict with Russia
"I wouldn’t put it past them to shoot down an American aircraft," James Clapper said.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/clapperjames_ls021114.jpg


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] ononim#8141
She wanted a no fly zone over Syria


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bleh, trump muddling


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Clinton sponsored a no-fly zone over Syria because Russia was bombing Syrian hospitals


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] ononim#8141
she never stated that she wants a war with Russia


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s not really that bad tho.


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
wat


[16-Feb-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wasnt


[16-Feb-20 05:40 PM] ononim#8141
granted she's still a scumbag that should be [REDACTED] but that's true for pretty much all of Yank political establishment, reps and Trump included


[16-Feb-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of hillary's bad campaign was trump spreading false narratives about her, and i seem to have some of those cross wired into my facts...


[16-Feb-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woops


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's bad enough without the fear mongering, but her campaign was also just awful


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
History is written by the victor.


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
Unfortunately


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
her campaign was a milquetoast appeal-to-everybody one


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
~~the trouble with her campaign is it was all attacxk and no policy~~


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
I wonder how much of our own history is actually factual


[16-Feb-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
she got pushed left considerably by Sanders


[16-Feb-20 05:42 PM] Sev3617#4685
And what parts of it aren’t


[16-Feb-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not true either intexda


[16-Feb-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_2016_presidential_campaign#Platform

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Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign
The 2016 presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton was announced in a YouTube video, on April 12, 2015. Hillary Clinton was the 67th United States Secretary of State and served during the first term of the Obama administration, 2009 to 2013. She was previously a United States S...


[16-Feb-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
it was actually fairly progressive


[16-Feb-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, i need to refresh myself on 2016


[16-Feb-20 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
the trump campaign got you


[16-Feb-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it made you think clinton was irredeemable as a politician, and I just don't think that's the case. I'll take the neoliberal hinting at progressivism over the conservative who literally wants a pointless expensive wall and to implement a "muslim ban"


[16-Feb-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
the trump campaign argument is fundamentally BSABSVR


[16-Feb-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
clinton is by far not unimpeachable (:twismug:) but trump is _a lot fucking worse_


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
people want a perfect candidate


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
perfect candidates don't exist


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
And I never understood the 30,000 email scandals


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of her policies sound reasonable. granted, not great but reasonable


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I disagree with sanders on a _lot_ of stuff


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
She was sitting in an office in a different country


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't mean I don't want him to be the next president of the US


[16-Feb-20 05:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
How were the deaths her fault?


[16-Feb-20 05:47 PM] Sev3617#4685
That never added up


[16-Feb-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
they weren't, it was a republican smear campaign


[16-Feb-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
smear campaigns were everywhere and no one was entirely immune to them...


[16-Feb-20 05:47 PM] Sev3617#4685
Man I wish the political climate wasn’t so awful


[16-Feb-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
the email thing, while bad, is hilariously ironic given that almost half of republicans in congress are currently running private email servers


[16-Feb-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
and is fundamentally a problem because boomers don't understand technology


[16-Feb-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
not because demonrats are evul


[16-Feb-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
or whatever someone might say


[16-Feb-20 05:48 PM] Sev3617#4685
Exactly


[16-Feb-20 05:49 PM] Sev3617#4685
But still trying to pin deaths on someone sitting in an office in a different country seemed off


[16-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was republican strategy


[16-Feb-20 05:49 PM] Sev3617#4685
I don’t even think the events were related to her


[16-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it didnt matter if it made sense, as long as it made people angry, it was doing it;s job


[16-Feb-20 05:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
:c


[16-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin pit falls


[16-Feb-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I thought the campaign slogan was ridiculously awful


[16-Feb-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
"Love Trumps Hate"


[16-Feb-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
sounds like a tacit endorsement of Trump


[16-Feb-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
as if it were saying "Love Trump's Hate"


[16-Feb-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm going to look over political platforms again just to make sure i have everything right...


[16-Feb-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fucked up part about propaganda is that it can get you without you even realizing


[16-Feb-20 05:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
I don’t mean to tinfoil hat but how do we know the things that we believe are true are even true themselves


[16-Feb-20 05:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
What if this truth is just another lie


[16-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
do you want to do the philosophy thing


[16-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
because I can give you the brain-in-a-vat argument


[16-Feb-20 05:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
?


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
what if your entire perception is fake, and you're just a brain in a vat that's being given simulated neural inputs


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
like in _The Matrix_


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
Bruh


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
lol


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the reason people don't generally waste their time with this sort of thing is _epistemology_


[16-Feb-20 05:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
that’s not rly the same tho


[16-Feb-20 05:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
The perception vs politics


[16-Feb-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
in order for something to count as _reasonable_ to believe, there has to be a good standard of evidence supporting it


[16-Feb-20 05:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
Evidence can be manufactured though. I’m not saying all or any of it is


[16-Feb-20 05:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
But how can we rly know


[16-Feb-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
do you trust your senses?


[16-Feb-20 06:00 PM] Sev3617#4685
I do. It’s just the world we live in that’s hard to trust


[16-Feb-20 06:00 PM] Sev3617#4685
You know what I mean?


[16-Feb-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
would you believe something you directly observed?


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
Well, you mean like as a random example seeing a unicorn (:twismug:)or something otherworldly with my own eyes?


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or a guy getting mugged


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not what I'm talking about


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
if you saw a guy getting shot on the street


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
would you trust your intuition that he got shot


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
Well yeah


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[16-Feb-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
given the evidence you saw it


[16-Feb-20 06:02 PM] byte[]#2610
that's what we build these things up upon


[16-Feb-20 06:02 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s what I mean though all the things that happen politically we weren’t physically there for.


[16-Feb-20 06:02 PM] Sev3617#4685
How do we know what’s presented isn’t manufactured in some way


[16-Feb-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
usually because it would be unreasonable to think it was


[16-Feb-20 06:03 PM] Sev3617#4685
Like Hillary wanting to war Russia was manufactured


[16-Feb-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
there was plenty of evidence at the time that the war with russia thing was entirely propaganda and it was mostly just a facebook meme


[16-Feb-20 06:03 PM] Sev3617#4685
I think too much I’m sorry lol


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
your perception of the issue was extremely limited


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as was mine


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Sev3617#4685
I just wish the world was a better place


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we all do


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I wish I could go see a doctor about my heart problems


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Sev3617#4685
?


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need therapy!


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] jlun2#8758
start a gofundme?


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Sev3617#4685
No insurance?


[16-Feb-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none


[16-Feb-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I have insurance, but they make you pay everything below $12000 in coverage


[16-Feb-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
per year


[16-Feb-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont have the income for insurance and it takes a lot of payments before it actually kicks in


[16-Feb-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd have medicaid but that's been locked behind an age wall


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] Sev3617#4685
Holy shit


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
M4A isn't just a matter of me caring about the less fortunate


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I _am_ the less fortunate


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m sry byte


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my state atleast


[16-Feb-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldlove to get myself screened for so many problems as well but i cant afford it


[16-Feb-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
the US is full of dangerously sick individuals who dodge preventative care because of the extremely high cost


[16-Feb-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I could be one of them


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] jlun2#8758
just curious, do you all live in some rural area too


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm convinced afew antivaxxers are that way because their inability to pay for vaccines in their area lead thme to terrible mentral justifications out of fear


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
vaccines are free


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
so that doesn't make any sense


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
no I live downtown on a college campus


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, there are about 3 types of cancer that I'm genetically at risk for that are easy to detect. I ought to be tested for them. I'm not sure I can afford all 3 at once. I live in a pretty well-off area


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Medical care in general isn't


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vaccines cost money in my area and the free nes at my college require insurance


[16-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So the sentiment is transfered


[16-Feb-20 06:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doctors cost money and work in a place full of sick and dying people, thus anything associated is bad


[16-Feb-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
unless you literally have millions of dollars in _liquid cash_


[16-Feb-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
you cannot afford an unexpected healthcare expense in this country


[16-Feb-20 06:10 PM] jlun2#8758
How do boomers love this? Do they never get sick or something


[16-Feb-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if ibreak a toe tomorrow i;m in medical debt for the rest of my life


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 they're on medicare


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter to them


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how expensive this shit is


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I have family in Texas that're self employed


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Boomers have been spending literally their entire lives making sure the system works for them - and no one else


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They pay 2000 USD a month for health insurance, per person

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[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it doesn't fully cover them unless the expense goes over some limit


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll still vote GOP


[16-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Sev3617#4685
Is ur heart problem fatal byte


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] jlun2#8758
are they socially conservative?


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
it could be


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't know


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're ranchers, in texas


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't find out


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my prents dont like the idea of medicare for all because it might inconvenience the well off


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They go to church every sunday and carry two rifles in every truck


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So yes


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
I hope it’s not


[16-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
:c


[16-Feb-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
you have to realize, inclusive healthcare is popular even among conservatives for this reason


[16-Feb-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
they realize they are getting fucked


[16-Feb-20 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Admittedly rifles are useful for ranching, but that's not the only reason they carry them, on display


[16-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i just want to get myself checked out for the constant headaches i have


[16-Feb-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sev3617 what I know is that my father's side of the family has had a history of fatal heart-related complications


[16-Feb-20 06:14 PM] Sev3617#4685
Do u stare at screens for most of the day dungeon


[16-Feb-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
my grandfather died of a heart attack (after stubbornly refusing to see a physician for years)


[16-Feb-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
my father has an arrythmia


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] Sev3617#4685
My heads always aching and I was convinced I had a brain tumor but I realized it’s cus I got my face in a screen 24/7


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
note that he lived in mexico at the time


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
so seeing a physician would not have bankrupted him


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] Sev3617#4685
oh


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
he just didn't want to go


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] Sev3617#4685
Man Fuck genetics


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would also liek a few various cancer screeings


[16-Feb-20 06:15 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s like your ancestors coming back to take you down with them


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> he just didn't want to go
I have experience with old people who are like that. They either claim they dont want to be a burden, or "it's nothing dont worry" then go die


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get a few moles looked at, get a prostate exam, all that stuff


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I want the ability to take a day off class for my personal health without it affecting my grade


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] Sev3617#4685
*rubber glove sound*


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't even get that luxury


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] Sev3617#4685
:lunalick:


[16-Feb-20 06:16 PM] Sev3617#4685
Prostate exam u say


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
need to go to the dentist? no, get _fucked_ buddy, there's a test that day, if you miss it I am _not_ rescheduling it for you


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
if you don't go the test your maximum grade is capped at  70%


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need soem dental work done too


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
that's how it's like here


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Bruh that’s fugged


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Where u live


[16-Feb-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Pittsburgh PA


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America just be like that


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m not that far from u


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
Can I come visit


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol jk


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
go to trotcon


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m in williamston,NC middle of nowhere


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
ehhhhh I’m not into the con thing


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
I always thought they were uh...


[16-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
Odd


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would love to visitr soem cons


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have any


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
no cons


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
but you have lots of neocons


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
I don’t wanna be insulting but fuck so many con pics make me cringe


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it the furry ones?


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
Guys with rainbow dash hair dews and fucking sparkly wings


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
Just


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
Pls


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
Stop


[16-Feb-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
why not


[16-Feb-20 06:20 PM] Sev3617#4685
:ItsTimeToStop:


[16-Feb-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they're having fun


[16-Feb-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you can rock rainbow hair, then do so


[16-Feb-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
live and let live


[16-Feb-20 06:20 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik but damn it just repulses me lmao


[16-Feb-20 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
perhaps try doing it yourself


[16-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
:oof:


[16-Feb-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college is also annoying to sit through because everyone discusses politics but it's entirely trump worship and propoganda


[16-Feb-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was even interjected into my hvac lessons


[16-Feb-20 06:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
I feel like the only reason trump won was because of the constant outrage of the far left that was dominant in the media and then trump comes along and boldly proclaims “yo fuck all that”


[16-Feb-20 06:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
And edge lords worship him because of it


[16-Feb-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it was mroe the staus quo that pushed him alongnicely


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What "far left"


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America doesn't have a far left


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america doesnt have a far elft


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wym


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a center left


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Uh


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bernie Sanders and AOC would be in right wing parties in Europe


[16-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
I mean like


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our overton window is so far tot he right it makes our progressives look extreme by comparison


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America has an extreme right and a far right


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ppl that lean really far left and are usually toxic and loud and shout online and irl over everyone else until they’re listened too


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
I think u know what I mean


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobodies on twitter?


[16-Feb-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tumblr sjw?


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
the meme of the "violent left" is spawned entirely by right-wing nutcases who are offended they can't call black people niggers online without getting canceled


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People really got so mad at twitter blue checkmarks that they voted a xenophobic rapist into office?


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's almost unbelievably absurd


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] Sev3617#4685
I feel like trump got a lot of votes simply to piss lefties off and not because they actually gave a shit about trump but idk I’m just talking out my ass


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
he did


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, own the libs was a major reason he got votes


[16-Feb-20 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"These PC people are so annoying, I'm gonna vote for the guy that paid a pornstar for sex while his third wife was recovering from child birth"


[16-Feb-20 06:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
And that’s the reason why he’s praised continually


[16-Feb-20 06:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
Is not because they think he’s worthy but it’s just to keep pissing the far left off


[16-Feb-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s about winning


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's no right or wrong only winning


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sev3617 did you see dennis prager putting it out there recently


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s kind of ironic that the left are the reason he won. They were their own downfall


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
I dunno who that is


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m sorry for my smol brain


[16-Feb-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] jlun2#8758
I feel like you could get paid writing a paper on "Owning the libs/cons is not a sustainable economic policy"


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
Kind of like how sjw scum arexmad that the joker movie is the highest engrossing r rated film ever made and upset that it did so well


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also threw a few of the K-word in for good measure


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are they


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
The far left outrage inevitably only adds more to their downfall


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because this is the first I've ever heard of that


[16-Feb-20 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
uh


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
_conservatives_ are mad at Joker


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
specifically, because of Joaquin Phoenix


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
talking about QUEER RIGHTS


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wut


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the left hasnt disliked joker as far as i;ve seen


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why did ppl associate w the left then


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Am confuse


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
propaganda


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may not be in personal preference for a lot of people but it;s an intentionally uncomfortable movie


[16-Feb-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
you got smeared


[16-Feb-20 06:30 PM] Sev3617#4685
Fuck not again


[16-Feb-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes you look at society


[16-Feb-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still need to see it


[16-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
Actually Ig that makes sense but conservatives don’t hate white people typically do they? I remember seeing shit like “who wants to see another white guy have a bad day?”


[16-Feb-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
In regards to joker


[16-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter is full of complete idiots that never leave their room and bait for follows with hot takes like that


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives hate white people who are poorer than they personally are


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
and especially those who do drugs


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
His speech was incredibly moving though


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and especially homeless


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As well as hasbeens and literallywhos that are only known for some random passable thing they did a decade ago and since then think they have a platform and love the limelight too much to get off it and do real shit again


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
Phoneixs


[16-Feb-20 06:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
That shit was so raw


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
You could hear the pain when he mentioned his brother


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I wish I had seen Joker in theaters


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
I watched it online for free


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have not heard it or seen joker


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
My friend sent it to me


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
It was HD but had Chinese subtitles


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
I dunno if it’s still up


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
It was a powerful movie though


[16-Feb-20 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
this is basically the conservative playbook


[16-Feb-20 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
also obligatory Despite making up 13%


[16-Feb-20 06:34 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh my god byte thats literally the arby n the chief discord Ik that’s totally off topic but they say some extremely racist shit and are downright awful ppl lmao


[16-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
"You don't like Nazis? Then you must hate white people!"


[16-Feb-20 06:35 PM] jlun2#8758
what does liking things ironically even mean


[16-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
nothing


[16-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a stupid way to try to save face for liking something unpopular


[16-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
I often called them out constantly on how their horrific actions often fell in line with that of somebody who had intent and wasn’t just merely joking


[16-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
And they’d just continue saying shit like


[16-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
“It’s ironic”


[16-Feb-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's what they do


[16-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
One of them had fucking child porn and they posted it


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
"B-but I was only pretending to be retarded"


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
He got banned


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s just a prank bro


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
And their defense was


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
JUST A PRANK


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
BRO ITS A PRANK


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
“I had it ironically”


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m not even joking


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
I couldn’t make this shit up if I tried


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't get to get away with committing atrocities because you think it's a joke


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i shot you bro, why you callin the police? it was just a prank bro!


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
or because you say it's a joke


[16-Feb-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
especially when it's clearly not a joke


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
They were awful ppl


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Some of them were cool though


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
The arby n the chief discord is a hell of a rabbit hole


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
lemondrop wrote 100+ messages to me in private message over the course of an hour


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today?


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe I should read them


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah today


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Bruh


[16-Feb-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christ


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
Send screens


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
Pls


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
🤡


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’ll suck ur dick


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
:RainbowLick:


[16-Feb-20 06:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] make a clown pony oc


[16-Feb-20 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/images/2223200

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[16-Feb-20 06:41 PM] jlun2#8758
probably workable for collab if he gets healthcare


[16-Feb-20 06:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
lol that was fucked lmao


[16-Feb-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610

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[16-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Sev3617#4685
Well...


[16-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Sev3617#4685
My brain just lost a lot of cells


[16-Feb-20 06:45 PM] jlun2#8758
He could probably make some political pony channel and monetize his ramblings rather than posting them on Derpi


[16-Feb-20 06:45 PM] jlun2#8758
his animated oc screaming about AI for 10 mins a week


[16-Feb-20 06:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
LOL


[16-Feb-20 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I'd agree with him on a lot of things if he weren't so fucking obtuse


[16-Feb-20 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
that's the sad part


[16-Feb-20 06:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
What things?


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
like his views on AI and philosophy and such


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
even on development methodology


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] you can take his vents, reword them, then make monetized videos of a clown pony talking about them


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Sev3617#4685
I don’t think ppl should be banned for being annoying but seeing the way he talks about it like he’s some sort of god


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Sev3617#4685
He needs a reality check


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
he didn't get banned for being annoying


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] jlun2#8758
to fund your healthcare


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
if we banned people for being annoying I would have to leave


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
he got banned for bad faith as usual


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lemon's problem is he is one of those people who is easy to make into a pawn of the far right.


[16-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Sev3617#4685
Bad faith?


[16-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat


[16-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* he watched some video about how SJUWs are gonna ruin the country, so now when someone says women deserved to be raped, he defends them as "just shitposting"


[16-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
While attakking people for saying, or even implying, the guy deserved to be hit by a baseball bat


[16-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
(this is a double standard)


[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Sev3617#4685
Women deserve to be raped....?


[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat the fuck


[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
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He was asking for it tbh
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[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lemon defended this


[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
just a few hours ago


[16-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Sev3617#4685
I get that it’s probably just built up anger from leftist bs but holy shit saying shit like that gives them ammo to use then


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The double standard is that when this guy says women deserved to be raped, that's "shitposting"


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s funny how toxic the political climate is


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
what "leftist BS"...


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
but when we say he deserved to be hit by a baseball bat, even with jokes mixed in, it's *not* shitposting.


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
that rape is _bad_?


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
Their toxicity ends up being their downfall


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
No rape is bad


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fallacy.


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
:eyesshaking: :eyesshaking:


[16-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're doing improper generalization.


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political positions are not like apples.


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
One bad one does not make the rest bad.


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you think evil leftists are making all leftists bad, then that one guy saying women deserve to be raped makes all rightwingers bad.


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m mainly talking about the extremes


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't.


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Sev3617#4685
The right extreme is ridiculous too


[16-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
But people always bring up the left first.


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
More guns more guns more guns yeah no


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the left extreme thinks the workers should seize the means of the production


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the double standard the right trains you to do.


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the right extreme wants to kill black and brown people


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
do you see the problem here


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right extreme is far morally worse, yet gets brought up second.


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
I don’t think all the left or right is bad


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Giv everyone free healthcare" is a position of the extreme left


[16-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m not that shallow


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Kill all muslims" is a position of the extreme right.


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
I promise


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "toxicity" of the extreme left is usually in SJUW censorship.


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
I just mean the extremes on both sides push and pull so much their defenses turn into the opposing sides offense


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
Etc etc.


[16-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* people who think violent video games cause violence and we need to delete them from existence


[16-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's shitty, but it's incomparable to extreme right positions.


[16-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
Yeah that’s the type of shit I mean


[16-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also you don't need to tell us how angry thoughts reproduce.


[16-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
We already know.


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arguing in the abstract and bringing up the left first just makes it look like you're trying to buy IM A CENTRIST GAIZ points.


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s fucking ridiculous how they’re offended by video games that criticize the reality we live in and instead of trying to take that criticism and learn from it and improve society they want to censor that criticism


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
And ban it


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
Because they don’t like looking in the mirror


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Crazy idiots exist, most of them don't deserve your attention.


[16-Feb-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you just reiterate this crap, you become part of the polarizing problem.


[16-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's much better to focus your anger on like, the actual literal nazis that are trying to kill people.


[16-Feb-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of Anita Sarkeesian.


[16-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
I know video games that are violent aren’t meant to be criticisms of our reality but there are some that that’s the intended purpose like GTA 5 was. It got millions of ppl talking about real world issues and what is or isn’t ok in society and it made the “evil gamers” actually talk about things they hadn’t previously considered


[16-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
For similar reasons, it's best to ignore people like Sargon most of the time.


[16-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
And the media was like


[16-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't even discuss their points unless someone else brings them up.


[16-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
“But there’s hookers and violence fucking ban it”


[16-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what Anita and Sargon's arguments are btw?


[16-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
Butts are bad and objectivfying women isn’t ok in video games


[16-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
Idk who Sargon is


[16-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[16-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
But yeah you’re right we should focus on real issues instead of Anita and dumb cunts like her


[16-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
But so should they


[16-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there is a big problem with what you're doing, then.


[16-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are arguing from ignorance.


[16-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav a generalized idea of what the arguments are but no specifics.


[16-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet you are going on at length about the problem, and with a bent to one side.


[16-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'll keep it very simple on Anita's main arguments:


[16-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m just tired of ppl attacking gaming


[16-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
me too


[16-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
As a depressed individual with no life and nobody that gives a shit about me I probably would’ve fucking offed myself if I didn’t have this escape


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[16-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Having no playable females is objectification because women become the "object" of the sentence in action. (this is just plain switching out the word definition and makes no sense)


[16-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
And the media paints me like an evil prick for pressing buttons on a controller


[16-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
2. Equal treatment is sexist because there is a history of sexism built-in, so even when you defy the old gender norms, it's not enuff unless you completely reverse them. (this is basically just misattributing who is at fault, combined with actually wanting sexism against males)


[16-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
3. Violence against women, and female bodies disappearing, is sexist. (this is again just her being sexist and downright irrational)


[16-Feb-20 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those are Anita's main arguments, and they are often used by others.


[16-Feb-20 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for Sargon, I'm not as familiar with his talking points anymore, but I do remember a case of him being annoyed that posters got taken down.


[16-Feb-20 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Such posters were promoting racism in Canada, and he was going "BUT FREE SPEECH"; this is a common conservative argument that they should be able to literally plaster their racism on public spaces.


[16-Feb-20 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
are you talking about the "it's okay to be a white person." posters? or something else


[16-Feb-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it was something else, Sargon himself didn't go into details.


[16-Feb-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't what the posters say, per se


[16-Feb-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that by attaching them to surfaces the poster creator doesn't own, he is in effect compelling speech by the owner of the surface.


[16-Feb-20 07:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's a big technically. people place posters on other surfaces all the time.


[16-Feb-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
On telephone poles and public boards, posters are fine.


[16-Feb-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
These were on the walls of businesses.


[16-Feb-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not finding any reliable sources on the coronavirus being manmade


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you believe you can force a business to hav your poster kept up on its walls


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
then okay


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I can put my posters on your walls


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yes. its not authorized but people still do that on a semi regularly basis.


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
that say the exact opposite of what you believe.


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well fukk them then.


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk them to death with a rake.


[16-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Sev3617#4685
Sorry was doing laundry


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that seems a bit harsh...


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
2. Equal treatment is sexist because there is a history of sexism built-in, so even when you defy the old gender norms, it's not enuff unless you completely reverse them. (this is basically just misattributing who is at fault, combined with actually wanting sexism against males)


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
This


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
This


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care how harsh it is.


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
Fucking this


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
You nailed it


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
This is what gets me


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
About so many things


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, thing to realize.


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people do not actually buy that argument.


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s like even though they’re not oppressed anymore


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
3 is what most of the media use in their arguments.


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, that is not the case


[16-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
They don’t care


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop drinking conservative flavoraid.


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Sev3617#4685
They don’t want equality they wanna be on top like it’s to make up for lost time


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what the ERA is?


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or the 14th amendment?


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Sev3617#4685
For when they weren’t dominant


[16-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you?


[16-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
no lol u right though I do have a bit of that extremeist right winged edge to me and I need to work on that but shit like Anita sarkeesian or ppl trying to censor art that criticizes reality instead of trying to make that reality better and saying ppl who play violent games are trained killers really gets under my fuvking skin


[16-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
And I go into full retard mode


[16-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, we need to talk about equal rights, their history, what they actually mean, etc.


[16-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the 14th amendment was a product of the Civil War


[16-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
the super tl;dr is the South fought for slavery


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when the North won, they passed amendments without the South allowed to vote on them.


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they also fought for other reasons too.


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
slavery being just one of several reasons


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is extremely disingenuous, please fukk off.


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wat?


[16-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
For real, do not even try me right now, I will mute you if you continue that argument.


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Sev3617#4685
What’s his argument


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Sev3617#4685
Am curious


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's disingenuous to say to was slavery and slavery only.


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
His argument is that the South had mysterious other reasons it didn't.


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wot


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
muted.


[16-Feb-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[16-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
So after the North said "no you don't get to own slaves and continually fukk with us over not giving you more slave-owning states"


[16-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They pushed thru some of the most radical amendments ever.


[16-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Sunnyside Isn't it old news?


[16-Feb-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th guaranteed "equal protection under the laws"


[16-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
This meant that it was, at least on paper, unconstitutional to pass a law that treated blakks different from whites.


[16-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
And *also* on paper, the same for women vs. men


[16-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, in practice


[16-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
women weren't allowed to vote at the federal level and in most states.


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the South soon passed laws that treated blakks differently.


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Nebbie I dunno the context of what he was talking about but cmon man don’t keep someone from speaking here just cause you don’t want to hear it. Ain’t no harm in just discussing


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
But continue


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is harm, actually.


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was using a wedge argument to prevent me from talking about the 14th amendment.


[16-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
While also trying to make you believe absolute falsehoods about the reasons for the civil war.


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He does that a lot, and it's not okay etc. etc.


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
I enjoy perspective even if it’s one that’s wrong


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so many years went by, and the courts began to see the writing on the wall, or 14th amendment in this case.


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
I like to keep an open mind


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't that he's wrong


[16-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that he was using bad faith


[16-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he wasn't interested in actual discussion, he was just trying to derail.


[16-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the writing on the wall was that like


[16-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can't hav all these laws treating people different when the law of the land says not to.


[16-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So by the 70s, the basic understanding was you can't pass a law that treats women differently from men.


[16-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOWEVER


[16-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not everyone agrees to that logic; in particular, conservatives, especially ones who disagreed with the 14th to begin with...aren't big fans.


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in comes the ERA


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
a proposed amendment to specifically say that women and men are equal.


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This...was controversial.


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It failed to get the required 38 states to sign on.


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you see a problem here, @Sev3617?


[16-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
Well yeah


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, over time, more states ratified it...


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
It sounds like an all around shit show


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 38th one did so *a few months ago*


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
In that time, OVER FORTY YEARS


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
just for something that says women and men are equal


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
some states actually withdrew their ratification


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, just based on that, you really think everyone treats women and men equally?


[16-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't.


[16-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav state legislatures saying to our faces that they do not want the constitution to say men and women are equal.


[16-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s certainly better than it used to be


[16-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, to be clear, this only applies to *laws* and *gov't action*


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't apply to businesses or individuals


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as with free speech.


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik women and blacks and the like r still oppressed I just mean it’s not helping anything by criticizing asses and tits in video games


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't can't censor you, but twitter can.


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Separately, there is a law that says businesses can't discriminate in certain contexts.


[16-Feb-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially employment and serving customers.


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well no, Anita's arguments don't help anything.


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
However


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
something does need to be said...


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That "employment" thing


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
it is an issue.


[16-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many businesses refuse to hire women.


[16-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even the ones that want to, can't find qualified ones, and will hire ones that aren't qualified.


[16-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is partially due to sex hormones affecting people's decisions on career paths etc.


[16-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
but some of it is actually due to the whole system being, well, anti-woman.


[16-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it starts at the level of people interacting while playing games.


[16-Feb-20 07:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
Censoring vidya that criticizes reality would only make it worst, why not try to change the reality first then media would fall in line as media would then gradually no longer criticize the reality we live in. I am listening though


[16-Feb-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more correct approach to the problem is to hammer employers that fukk with women by salary etc. while also pumping money into the school system to say that women are equal etc.


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ERA helps with the former.


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I watched one video, where girl says that woman is the last candidate due to potential maternity leave.


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hopefully it'll get added to the constitution.


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that is one of the issues.


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, note what I'm saying here, @Sev3617


[16-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying supplant an incorrect argument with a vaguely correct idea with a correct argument.


[16-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than just rag on it forever.


[16-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political discourse works better when we go "that doesn't work" more often than "that's just wrong".


[16-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It helps depolarize it.


[16-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik. You didn’t have to go into al that detail but I appreciate the effort. Ik women and shit are still oppressed to a certain degree I just mean the shit ppl like Anita criticized about media wasn’t relevant to the “oppression” she thought she was fighting. Fighting a battle in the worst way possible


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
you're still doing it


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
But idk why u specifically brought Anita up idrc about her tbh


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because I know her arguments.


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
because you talked about games


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
I just thought she was retarded


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
She isn't important.


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
But her arguments are important to *know*.


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
She is a point that can actually be discussed.


[16-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than a ton of abstract hate etc.


[16-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
Yee


[16-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Part of my point here is to not just entirely dismiss things as "x is retarded"


[16-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik wat u mean


[16-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to at least once do an actual evaluation on what their argument is to come to that conclusion.


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m not disclosed to discussion that’s just me expressing myself colorfully Ig u could say


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
dismissing someone's argument because you don't like the person is literally the application of informal fallacy to debate


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m rarely dismissive


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
Tho


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, something else important to realize.


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
I listen to a lot of ppls perspectives regardless of who they are


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is actually gonna censor vidya.


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
Or what they did


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
well, steam sort of did with the school shooter game


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has failed numerous times and has less support than it used to.


[16-Feb-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
and there's always australia


[16-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, nobody in the US *gov't*, anyways.


[16-Feb-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[16-Feb-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
that's correct


[16-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS has takkled this before. RBG was playing console games.


[16-Feb-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, @Sev3617, do you know what the Trump administration is doing in regards to that law about employment I mentioned?


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
That school shooter game was fucked


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
It was asking to be taken form


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
Down


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
Thanks auto


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
Not form lol


[16-Feb-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, the law prohibits "discrimination on the basis of sex"


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discrimination is a fancy word for different treatment.


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik what it means neb


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
:p


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
"On the basis of" means using it in any way to influence your decision.


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is important.


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Sex" is *not* gender btw


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It refers to your actual biological setup.


[16-Feb-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It only changes when you get a sex change.


[16-Feb-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
So...employer fires a guy because he's gay. Is this discrimination on the basis of sex, @Sev3617?


[16-Feb-20 07:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Yes..?


[16-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
Waitcwat


[16-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Correct...but that's not what Trump's administration thinks.


[16-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The argument goes like this:


[16-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. The employer fired a male for liking a male. 
2. The same employer would not fire a female for liking a male.
3. This means treatment *hinges* on the sex of the individual liking a male.
4. Therefore, this is discrimination on the basis of sex.


[16-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration argues instead:
1. The law was not understood to prohibit firing gays at the time it was made.
2. Adding this by logic is thus making the judiciary write law.
3. Therefore, the law must not apply to this.


[16-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same argument as "the 14th doesn't apply to women", @Sev3617


[16-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why would it not apply to women


[16-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that argument is:
1. The 14th was not understood to prohobit treating women differently at the time it was made.
2. Adding this by logic is thus making the judiciary rewrite the constitution.
3. Therefore, the 14th must not apply to women being treated differently by the law.


[16-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Sev3617#4685
Though a lot of the amendments were written a long time ago and I think they should be updated as times have changed drastically to give a more clear cut understanding of them


[16-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Sev3617#4685
Like the first amendment


[16-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, we can't really change it's text.


[16-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
But what *has* changed is society's understanding of the text.


[16-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time the 14th was made, nobody even thought that it could apply to women.


[16-Feb-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The logic couldn't go there because it was assumed "equal" didn't really mean between the sexes.


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather, it was seen as sex being a damn good reason to change some things, and that doing this *created* a form of equality.


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Laws were often seen as *protecting* women from the harshness of male life.


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Sev3617#4685
It was between the skin colors tho right


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Sev3617#4685
The 14tg


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The amendment didn't specify.


[16-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Sev3617#4685
14th*


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It says "equal protection"


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Sev3617#4685
This is why it should be updated


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the ERA is about.


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Sev3617#4685
To make it more clear so trump can’t be a thin dicked cunt


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives regularly argue that the 14th doesn't apply to women, but they don't need the ERA because it does.


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
See a problem here?


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Sev3617#4685
And be like “but it doesn’t specify so happy discriminating”


[16-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why can’t we update them?


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Sev3617#4685
They’re how old?


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want the updating.


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it would put the final nails in their coffins of discrimination.


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, something fukky with the 14th btw


[16-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say a law says:


[16-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Women's nipples can never be shown in public.
2. Men's nipples are fine.
3. "public" means any time other people from a different household are around.


[16-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is this okay by the 14th?


[16-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s a hard one to answer. Titty nipples are just often sexualized and men’s nips aren’t. It’s just one of those societal norms we’ve come to accept even if it is a bit odd. Seeing tits wouldn’t rly bother me but it’d definitely make me like “lol tf”


[16-Feb-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the question does not ask about your personal opinion, it asks if it is okay by ONLY the 14th


[16-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
I dunno if it’s okay by the 14th or not


[16-Feb-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
read the text of the 14th and decide


[16-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Sev3617#4685
No it wouldn’t be okay I don’t think?


[16-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed, if sex is protected by the 14th (and it's pretty dubious to say it's not), then that law clearly denies equal protection of the laws.


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
equal protection of the sexes, rather


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the 14th: "...nor [shal any State] deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
Is there actually a law specifically pertaining to nipples


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
:DYING:


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is, in like half of all states.


[16-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh my god 😂


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
female nipples in particular


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, New York's judiciary took a look at NY's law


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
Imagine having to write that


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
which raises the question: do trans people count


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they said "hold up, this isn't okay"


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
in NY state now


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
women can go topless in public.


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh damn


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
I think ima move there now


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, in Utah...


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
:nut:


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol jk


[16-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/21/781703956/utah-woman-charged-with-lewdness-after-being-topless-in-her-own-home

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https://www.npr.org/2019/11/21/781703956/utah-woman-charged-with-lewdness-after-being-topless-in-her-own-home
Utah Woman Charged With Lewdness After Being Topless In Her Own Home
The case is the latest legal battle amid a broader "free the nipple" campaign that seeks to normalize the exposure of female nipples.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/11/21/gettyimages-526175334_wide-e5ca88363fc8954d9f0aca642f2fac8ff64a5c02.jpg?s=1400


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
A couple were in their own home doing some work on it.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were both topless.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some kids busted in on them.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
Imagine walking into McDonald’s and you see a chick walk in with her boobs on display.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The woman is now facing prosecution.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wait wtf


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
She was in her home


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
???


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Utah btw has not ratified the ERA, ever.


[16-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Sev3617#4685
Someone invaded HER PRIVACY


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
WHY TF IS SHE BEING CHARGED???


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
And she's facing criminal charges for it.


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Her stepkids walked in on her drywalling her garage with her partner


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
:fillyreee:


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Her partner was also topless, not charged


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what discrimination against women looks like.


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Sev3617#4685
I think I heard about this actually


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are mad because she dared be topless in her own home.


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
The kids reported this to their nuclear(?) parents


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
And that's how the cops got involved


[16-Feb-20 07:55 PM] byte[]#2610
The nuclear parents informed the police


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
this means that nudism is basically illegal for women only


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
in Utah.


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
(barring issues with male genitals of course)


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s ridiculous


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Sev3617#4685
Who wrote that law


[16-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So while Anita is yelling about games


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is what's actually going on.


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why would a man write that law don’t they like titties


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons.


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Utah was founded by Mormons.


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ok that makes sense


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons are a Christian sect that is unusually sexist.


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They used to practice polygamy.


[16-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, multiple wives.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
I still don’t get how other cultures basically censor any and all slight seductive behavior from women


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
One man forcing twenty teenage girls to bend over.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
Do they not like getting their rocks off or something


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, you must understand there is a reason.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do, but.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to imprison women with their husbands.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that a woman showing herself to others is free of the husband.


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Sev3617#4685
That shit pisses me off


[16-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
A woman who is not allowed to show herself to others is instead bound to him.


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Sev3617#4685
I feel awful for women in third world countries like that


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about making women basically slaves.


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
With husbands as owners.


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why gay marriage is such a big issue btw


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you allow gay marriage, it completely shatters the sexual discrimination that tries to enslave women.


[16-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS ruled that the 14th amendment requires allowing gay marriage.


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
(because to deny gays the option to marry is denying them equal protection under the laws)


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are *pissed*.


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Sev3617#4685
What do we as a society even obtain from discrimination. What do we actually get out of it


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Control over those discriminated against.


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
White men gain control over blakks and women.


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
sexism implicitly and often invisibly benefits men


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, something to note


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
racism, the same with white people


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
a woman wears male clothing


[16-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
nobody bats an eye


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
a man wears female clothing


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
everybody loses their minds.


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Sev3617#4685
So then it’s not that they really care about the things they advocate it just comes down to power


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
it comes down to power _they don't even realize they have_


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note how this ties into Anita's thing btw


[16-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
She wants to flip things over from sexism targeting women to targeting men.


[16-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
This plays on conservative fears that equality pushes are merely wanting to reverse things so blakk women are on top etc. etc.


[16-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives consider equality impossible and non-ideal.


[16-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore they see anyone pushing for it as having this ulterior motive.


[16-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why people like Anita so easily slander the left.


[16-Feb-20 08:03 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s like making up for lost time is what I always thought it was. The oppressed want to become the oppressors to give the other side a taste of their own medicine much like how someone who’s abused often becomes an abuser
(Obviously not everyone who’s abused becomes an abuser)


[16-Feb-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most people oppressed/abused don't turn around and become the one doing it.


[16-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
What actually happens is they become used to it and reinforce it.


[16-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The abused often become easy prey for the next abuser.


[16-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The oppressed often get anxious about anyone offering to free them, fearing they will just be oppressed harder as a result.


[16-Feb-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The major exception is freedom fighters and similar provocateurs.


[16-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They often just want to flip things.


[16-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s how I’ve always seen it. It’s why men are more often harassed much more harshly nowadays because of the oppression while still there but not as severe women used to face


[16-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things work out best when neither the oppressed nor freedom fighters alone end up in control of the changes.


[16-Feb-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
men can be harassed because of expectations of masculinity


[16-Feb-20 08:07 PM] Sev3617#4685
I dunno if I sound like a tard but it sounded good in my head


[16-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's that whole "men can't wear dresses" thing at play.


[16-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Men are expected to stikk to male things.


[16-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women are allowed to deviate.


[16-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why bronies are seen as so offensive to older people.


[16-Feb-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
a few "typical" ones have been identified
1. "no sissy stuff" - reject femininity, this one is the most strongly policed because it's the easiest to see
2. "be a big wheel" - basically you have to be someone important or you're not "manly"
3. "be a sturdy oak" - you can never change what you're doing or what you like to do, and you can never express any variance of emotion
4. "give 'em hell" - if anyone threatens you or your masculinity, beat the shit out of them


[16-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Sev3617#4685
I remember when I used to feel bad for having a penis


[16-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there is a big double standard about accusations of sexual misconduct, tho tbf the statistics are so lopsided it's hard not to hav such.


[16-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general men are expected to be filthy perverts that break rules.


[16-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
While being lambasted the moment they break the one big rule by not being such.


[16-Feb-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
IIRC self-report surveys showed that
- women fear being stalked, raped, killed most
- men fear humiliation most


[16-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
Women fear being stalked, raped, killed most


[16-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why I used to feel bad for having a peen basically


[16-Feb-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
have you heard of this thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

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Gay panic defense
The gay panic defense is a legal strategy in which a defendant claims they acted in a state of violent temporary insanity, committing assault or murder, because of unwanted same-sex sexual advances. Broadly, a defendant may allege to have found the same-sex sexual advances so ...


[16-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Sev3617#4685
no I haven’t


[16-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Sev3617#4685
y u ask


[16-Feb-20 08:13 PM] Sev3617#4685
?


[16-Feb-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
more masculinities stuff


[16-Feb-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
the particular legal strategy wasn't in any of my readings so far this semester (mostly just about media reporting that glorifies/justifies the killings)


[16-Feb-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
but it's important to know about


[16-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Sev3617#4685

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/678681131356389376/image0.png


[16-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wait wut


[16-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Sev3617#4685
So likevthey killed them upon seeing them baked


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Naked


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
More like, their mom came in with a penis


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
I fuvking hatecauto correct


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
so they grabbed a knife and killed her.


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Their mom?


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wait what


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is they kill someone for being trans/gay


[16-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then blame it on their panic at such.


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You walk into a bar, a lovely lady is next to you.


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You follow her out of the bar to get her number


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
It says sexual advances/seeing them naked


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "lady" tells you that they're a guy


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get out a knife and kill them.


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why would your mom walk in on u naked with sexual advances


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather


[16-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tells you you're cute, but should know they're a guy


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
This is a legal defense?


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
naked OR sexual advances


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, actually the image in question talks about sexual activity


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
How is that a fucking defense


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
so it's like


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
you get into bed with a trap


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
after you cum, you see a dikk


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
bam, knife, you murder them


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
then claim you panikked.


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Sev3617#4685
I think you’d see the dick way before you came


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's not a defense society should accept, that's for sure.


[16-Feb-20 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
not if she just gave you oral


[16-Feb-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's up to judges/juries to decide whether a defense is valid.


[16-Feb-20 08:20 PM] Sev3617#4685
:nut:


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
“I’m a guy btw”


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it can be as simple as walking in on your mom in the bathroom and finding out she's trans


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
*fucking kills them*


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
Like what


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
No


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s not ok


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is absolutely not ok


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s not a fucking defense


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
good you agree with a majority of society


[16-Feb-20 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately, X panic defenses are sometimes successful in court


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
“Panic”


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
WHY WOULD YOU PANIC


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The defence only makes sense if they suddenly took out their dick or lack of dick without telling you the had or had not got a dick. In that case only a punch or push would be acceptable. 
This just seems like a shitty excuse for murdering someone.


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
LOL


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
because the person "threatened" your heterosexuality as a man


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
“I’m not gonna get puss puss”


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
and to assert your dominance as a man, you must commit violence


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
remember, "give 'em hell"


[16-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Sev3617#4685
*starts violently sweating*


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Who wrote this law


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not a law


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
They should be shot


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a legal defense strategy


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
Sorry lol


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
My brains not working at full capacity


[16-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Sev3617#4685
I didn’t sleep


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik it isn’t law I swear but my brain can’t keep up with my fingers


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
:eyesshaking:


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Sev3617#4685
But yeah whoever wrote this legal defense clearly reaks of bigotry


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives will kill blakk people


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then use the defense that the blakk person was "threatening"


[16-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
sometimes this works.


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Sev3617#4685
K guess I gotta rack my KD up brb


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
A racist jury will say "yep, sounds reasonable to me!"


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Sev3617#4685
Nah jk I’m not conservative


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’m actually more left than right


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
this happens a lot when cops kill black people


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
there was a like, 12-year-old blakk kid about a year ago


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
who was lost, cause the bus dropped him off at the wrong spot


[16-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
he knokked on a door to ask directions


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
white guy inside went WHY ARE THEY HERE NOW?, grabbed shotgun, opened door, shot towards him.


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
....


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s a kid


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully in that case, he lost the case.


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
Whatvthe fuck


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
:sad:


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why would you shoot a kid???


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
Dude


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
Jesus Christ


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Warning shots, he claimed.


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
racism


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Directly-aimed "warning shots"


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Sev3617#4685
I hope he’s getting buttfucked in prison


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, one thing to note


[16-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
in studies


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
people consistently overestimate the age of blakk kids of equal size to white kids.


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
Did the kid live?


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
By about 3 years.


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, none of the pellets hit him.


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
White guy had bad aim.


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh Fuck I thought he died


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There was also a guy that followed a kid and shot him then used the excuse that he was threated and got away with it then tried to sue the family of the kid for something.

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[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the blakk kid ran like hell when he saw the shotgun.


[16-Feb-20 08:27 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s a relief lol


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why do u keep saying blakk


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
:0


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
C is redundant


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes the same sound as k


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ig?


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
George Michael Zimmerman was the guy who shot Treyvon Martin to death btw.


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
yea that cunt


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
But that’s not how u engrish


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was acquitted on all charges.


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Sev3617#4685
I dunno who either of those ppl are


[16-Feb-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
you're arguably doing a lot worse of a job at writing correctly than Nebbie is


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally a 29-year-old man


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik but I didn’t sleep byte


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
Im sry


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Sev3617#4685
:sad:


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
shot to death a 17-year-old teen


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then claimed it was necessary self-defense


[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

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Shooting of Trayvon Martin
On the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, United States, George Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old African-American high school student. Zimmerman, a 28-year-old man of mixed race, was the neighborhood watch coordinator for his gated community w...
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[16-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was never explained why Trayvon would even accost the man


[16-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
the strong suspicion is that George initiated the confrontation.


[16-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note "gated community" btw


[16-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Communities are gated largely to keep out poor/blakk people.


[16-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
He walked in there armed and shot him and said it was self defense if by self defense you mean a fuck you to keeping us out


[16-Feb-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Zimmerman, a 28-year-old man of mixed race,[Note 1] was the neighborhood watch coordinator for his gated community where Martin was visiting his relatives at the time of the shooting.[3][4][5] Zimmerman shot Martin, who was unarmed, during a physical altercation between the two. Zimmerman, injured during the encounter, claimed self-defense in the confrontation.
> 
> In a widely reported trial, Zimmerman was charged with murder for Martin's death, but acquitted at trial after claiming self-defense. The incident was reviewed by the Department of Justice for potential civil rights violations, but no additional charges were filed, citing insufficient evidence.


[16-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
Which is kinda fucked but yeah totally self defense


[16-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Sev3617#4685
Why do so many guilty ppl get away with this shit


[16-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
Like that bitch Casey Anthony


[16-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note


[16-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
George was regularly calling police about suspicious persons


[16-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
all of whom were blakk.


[16-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Before shooting Trayvon, he got out of his car and chased him.


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was basically acting as a police officer in his gated community.


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and just like the police, he shot an innocent blakk kid and got away with it.


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] here's your line etc.


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
Oh wait I read it wrong I read it as the high school kid shot the 28 yr old


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
Fuck I’m tired


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
> In 2013, Zimmerman's estranged wife called 911 to report that Zimmerman had assaulted her father and was threatening her with a gun. Zimmerman wasn't charged over the incident.[39] In November of that same year, Zimmerman was charged with felony aggravated assault after he allegedly pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend during a domestic violence incident. The case was later dropped.[40] In January 2015, Zimmerman was again charged with domestic assault after allegedly throwing a wine bottle at a different girlfriend. Again the charges were later dropped.


[16-Feb-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
wtf


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah George is a violent person.


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
We live in a society 🤡


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
He likely ran Trayvon down and started punching.


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Sev3617#4685
That poor kid lost his life just for being at the wrong place at the wrong time


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Sev3617#4685
Fuvking Hell


[16-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Feb-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
he lost his life because a racist white man killed him


[16-Feb-20 08:35 PM] Sev3617#4685
This is why im afraid to leave my home


[16-Feb-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
don't beat around the bush


[16-Feb-20 08:35 PM] Sev3617#4685
Well yeah obviously


[16-Feb-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
how does he get a job and i cant wtf


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
Ik that byte I’m just saying If he hadn’t decided to visit that day he might still be here


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
It’s fucked to think about


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
i got expelled multiple times am I violent enough for guard pls


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but framing it that way makes it seem like it was his choice, or that the world had it coming for him


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but it wasn't


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
it was zimmerman shooting him


[16-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Sev3617#4685
How such a seemingly harmless decision can have dire consequences because of ppl like that 28 yr old


[16-Feb-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
the reason you can't get a job is because you don't have money


[16-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Sev3617#4685
That’s why u get a job tho wtf lmao


[16-Feb-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
have I ever mentioned that we live in a society? 🤡


[16-Feb-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
catch 22 is a helluva bitch


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
you need money to get a job


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
?


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need a job to obtain money


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wut


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
Wdym u need money to get a job


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs dont hire poverty


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
need money to do interviews, to create & submit your resume, time to call potential employers, money to dress for the interview


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
transportation to get there


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
I got legs


[16-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Sev3617#4685
:DYING:


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
I’ll walk


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the job is in another town or 8 miles form your house


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
I walked 8 miles before


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
From work to home


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now try walking that on a schedule


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
On a hot ass summer day


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] WTF pay for the interview?


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
there are arbitrary manner standards for interviews too


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
like if you show up in a sweaty mess and casual clothing they won't even bother


[16-Feb-20 08:39 PM] Sev3617#4685
Not even kidding either lol


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Sev3617#4685
That was a brutal walk


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are assholes. Here they are fine with casual formal.


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Sev3617#4685
:derpchrys:


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
you need to take a more wholistic view of cost, @Эᴚ|∫


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you must wear a suit to get a job as a cashier


[16-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Sev3617#4685
Tf no u don’t


[16-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
I wore a polo and jeans


[16-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
:DYING:


[16-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's formal casual.


[16-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
I got fired tho for bullshit reasons when rly they just didn’t want to lay me off and give unemployment


[16-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Sev3617#4685
They fired a lot of ppl


[16-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Sev3617#4685
Fuck u McDonald’s I hated working there anyways


[16-Feb-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the time you must also go with gender normatives or they'll look at you as a slob I.E: men must have short hair, women must wear make up, ect


[16-Feb-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
rich violent white dude


[16-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] However, the CVs that are "built for you" are getting binned first.


[16-Feb-20 08:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) you need a degree and 2-5 years of experience for cashier


[16-Feb-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also this ^


[16-Feb-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
there are just straight up fewer jobs available now


[16-Feb-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
so employers are limiting their application pools


[16-Feb-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
employers have basically built a comprehensive list to avoid hiring as manypeople as thye can get away with


[16-Feb-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell some employers put up dummy listings to make it look liek they;re hiring and then never fill said position


[16-Feb-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
automation is taking "conventional" jobs away


[16-Feb-20 08:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen something like that, but it was done for different reasons.


[16-Feb-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
this is why we need UBS


[16-Feb-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck off with that UBI shit


[16-Feb-20 08:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
One is reason to hire family member or friend, they post listing to make it look legit.


[16-Feb-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
formalities


[16-Feb-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 found the perfect article for you


[16-Feb-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/younger-americans-benefit-boomer-socialism-support-bernie-sanders-capitalism-reason-2020-2-1028908562

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https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/younger-americans-benefit-boomer-socialism-support-bernie-sanders-capitalism-reason-2020-2-1028908562
Young adults support Bernie Sanders because they want to benefit fr...
Sen. Bernie Sanders is drawing strong support among young voters, particularly those aged 18 to 29, as a result of his pledges to enact universa...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e3862f15bc79c0b0d39a0b4-2400/gettyimages-1179874968.jpg


[16-Feb-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
"boomer socialism"


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] jlun2#8758
too bad voters are mostly boomers


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The generational warfare has got to stop once Boomers are out.


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] jlun2#8758
do gen xers vote?


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not sustainable to keep fighting over which ages get free money.


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X votes less than all but Zoomers.


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
only because zoomers mostly can't vote yet


[16-Feb-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They basically grew up believing Boomers were right but also that they shouldn't care about anything.


[16-Feb-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X is a weird middleground between Boomers and Millennials.


[16-Feb-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav all the apathy towards the poor of Boomers


[16-Feb-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they also hav the feeling of being uninvolved like Millennials.


[16-Feb-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they just...don't vote.


[16-Feb-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the South Park generation.


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] jlun2#8758
cant wait for the zoomers vs alphers vs millenials once boomer dies


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
once Boomers are mostly dead, Gen X won't fight Millennials.


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their attitudes are just similar enuff


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once Zoomers are coming up to voting age...again it's unlikely they fight.


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
It was nice talking with u guys


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Sev3617#4685
Thank u


[16-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomers are basically Millennials but a little more intense about it.


[16-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're growing up in very similar conditions.


[16-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X will probably get shafted on social security


[16-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers set it up to shaft them just early enuff, and Millennials might be late to the party on correcting it.


[16-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But most likely, later Gen X will get rewarded by working with Millennials to fix it.


[16-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real question is whether whatever succeeds Zoomers goes crazy, or if Zoomers themselves turn around after Millennials implement UBS etc.


[16-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, no


[16-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer attitudes can't exist on just classism alone


[16-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
sexism and racism are integral components to keep the classism alive.


[16-Feb-20 08:53 PM] jlun2#8758
potato vs potato jr


[16-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things like poor housing and extreme job interview demands are meant to deal with blakk people, not just the poor.


[16-Feb-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato


[16-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you remove those racist attitudes, then it's really hard to justify them.


[16-Feb-20 08:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What?


[16-Feb-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classism will still exist, but it can't be so extreme.


[16-Feb-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Each generation's less racist/sexist than the last.


[16-Feb-20 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Zoomers should be denied the vote for fortnite alone.


[16-Feb-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAy22sHrbQ&feature=youtu.be

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Rep. Katie Porter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAy22sHrbQ
Rep. Porter calls on Census Director to address fake questionnaire ...
Some Californians have received "2020 Congressional District Census" questionnaires—but they were actually RNC mailers. Ploys like this increase confusion and distrust, when the census already struggles against disinformation.

Congresswoman Katie Porter questioned the Census ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VwAy22sHrbQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Feb-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-officials-pen-letter-calling-for-ag-william-barrs-resignation-2020-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-officials-pen-letter-calling-for-ag-william-barrs-resignation-2020-2
Over 1,100 former Justice Department officials call for William Bar...
"Mr. Barr's actions in doing the President's personal bidding unfortunately speak louder than his words," the former DOJ officials wrote.
https://i.insider.com/5e496a443b62b727e526d3f2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Feb-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483316-klobuchar-steyer-unable-to-name-mexicos-president-in-pointed-interview

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483316-klobuchar-steyer-unable-to-name-mexicos-president-in-pointed-interview
Klobuchar, Steyer unable to name Mexico's president in pointed inte...
Both Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/klobucharamy_012420gn_lead.jpg

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[16-Feb-20 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
who cares lol


[16-Feb-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll learn it if they need to. :shrugpony:


[16-Feb-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast they probably know that africa is a continent


[16-Feb-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daytona/trump-makes-flashy-entrance-with-limousine-ride-at-daytona-500-idUSKBN20A0GZ

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-daytona/trump-makes-flashy-entrance-with-limousine-ride-at-daytona-500-idUSKBN20A0GZ
Trump makes flashy entrance with limousine ride at Daytona 500
President Donald Trump made a showy entrance at the Daytona 500 on Sunday, ridin...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200216&t=2&i=1491203988&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG1F0HO


[16-Feb-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww he didnt crash annd burn


[16-Feb-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:depressed:


[16-Feb-20 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
Trump is like invincible to his base


[16-Feb-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i meant literally


[16-Feb-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanted him to have a nascar accident


[16-Feb-20 09:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I bet he didn't get in one of the real cars because he could not get his fat ass through the windows of those fake doors.


[16-Feb-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he went in his limousine


[16-Feb-20 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
limousines are famously built for straight fucking roads and not tracks


[16-Feb-20 09:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i saw the whole thing. i thought it was really neat myself.


[16-Feb-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt


[16-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
didn't see it?


[16-Feb-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[16-Feb-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it on fox?


[16-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
yes


[16-Feb-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure therels youtube of it


[16-Feb-20 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the reception from the crowd and the drivers was nice. trump had some complimentry things to say about the drivers and the sport. him and his wife was there. they did the national anthem and then he told drivers to start their engines. and then he lead the first lap while driving the armored limo himself and that was pretty much it.


[16-Feb-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was kind of boring to watch


[16-Feb-20 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so you saw it now?


[16-Feb-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw the drive part, yes


[16-Feb-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they werent even on the track, they were on the pit stop lane


[16-Feb-20 09:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well yes because the limo like you said wasn't designed for curves


[16-Feb-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably weighs more than 4 stock cars put together


[16-Feb-20 09:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they said the limo weighed 22,000 pounds


[16-Feb-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an 11 ton car


[16-Feb-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-16/trump-is-already-making-stuff-up-about-voter-fraud

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[16-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> You have 1 free article remaining. Try 3 months for $105


[16-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy shit


[16-Feb-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
truly bloomberg is playing to his base


[16-Feb-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All of Aleppo has been taken by Assadist Syrian forces


[16-Feb-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're advancing on the remaining rebel positions


[16-Feb-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/678696315642707977/Screenshot_20200216-151356_Chrome.jpg

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[16-Feb-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/tUVr58P.png
https://i.imgur.com/6rsHOSX.png

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https://imgur.com/tUVr58P
https://i.imgur.com/tUVr58P.png

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https://imgur.com/6rsHOSX
https://i.imgur.com/6rsHOSX.png


[16-Feb-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
"Atlus tubes"? Why not "Pillars of Freedom"?


[16-Feb-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pillars of freedom.inc did not contribute tot he super pac


[16-Feb-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-want-to-see-balance-right-wing-activists-target-primary-school-children-on-climate-20200214-p540ti.html

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-want-to-see-balance-right-wing-activists-target-primary-school-children-on-climate-20200214-p540ti.html
'We want to see balance': Right-wing activists target primary schoo...
Advance Australia is developing resource packs for classrooms which will tell students human-induced climate change is a lie.
https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.1439%2C$multiply_0.7554%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_111/t_crop_custom/q_86%2Cf_auto/ffdc76696a49385055a401dfdea28ba66836139d


[16-Feb-20 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
> Ms Storer told The Sun-Herald and The Sunday Age that although she wanted to "let kids be kids", children were already being inundated with messages about climate change.
> 
> "Whether we like it or not, the other side of the story is being shoved down their throats," she said.
tbh kids would just burn the environment because rebel


[16-Feb-20 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
also freedom of speech is a mistake


[16-Feb-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
although I have no idea how would any society somehow allow both freedom of speech, yet also somehow prevent misinformation; if there's some method that works and I'm unaware outside of "lets educate people" then sure


[16-Feb-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/which-types-of-speech-are-not-protected-by-the-first-amendment/

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Freedom Forum Institute
https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/which-types-of-speech-are-not-protected-by-the-first-amendment/
Which types of speech are not protected by the First Amendment?
Although different scholars view unprotected speech in different ways, there are basically nine categories: Obscenity Fighting words Defamation (including libel and slander) Child pornography Perjury Blackmail Incitement to imminent lawless


[16-Feb-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Obscenity
Fighting words
Defamation (including libel and slander)
Child pornography
Perjury
Blackmail
Incitement to imminent lawless action
True threats
Solicitations to commit crimes


[16-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good thing Trump's above the law given all the footage of him doing all those things


[16-Feb-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fighting words: words indicating a willingness to fight or challenge someone.
US
words expressing an insult, especially of an ethnic, racial, or sexist nature.


[16-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy5AZ_MTv4Q

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A Democrat Attends A Trump Rally
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[16-Feb-20 11:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[16-Feb-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
this is why Nebbie talked about Sargon earlier


[16-Feb-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c29754cea921e67e44eb095c93273197

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https://apnews.com/c29754cea921e67e44eb095c93273197
US secretary of state visits Senegal to start Africa tour
DAKAR, Senegal (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the Trump administration is working to determine what level of American military forces is needed in West Africa to counter the rise...
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[16-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/elizabeth-warren-doubles-down-surprisingly-risky-pitch-democratic-unity-n1137171

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Warren doubles down on a surprisingly risky pitch: Democratic unity
So far, primary season contenders vying to unite the left and middle have flopped. Heading into Nevada, the Massachusetts senator is gambling she can break that streak.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_07/3232141/20215-elizabeth-warren-mn-1407_55257fbaacc4af41306bccb92b20cd7d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[16-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
welp, guess we can write her off early


[16-Feb-20 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-want-to-see-balance-right-wing-activists-target-primary-school-children-on-climate-20200214-p540ti.html

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'We want to see balance': Right-wing activists target primary schoo...
Advance Australia is developing resource packs for classrooms which will tell students human-induced climate change is a lie.
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[16-Feb-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ono


[16-Feb-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This has been posted here already


[16-Feb-20 11:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim cant wait to see a new generation of denialers


[16-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://reliefweb.int/report/united-states-america/deported-danger-united-states-deportation-policies-expose-salvadorans


[16-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon what's really fun is when ICE deports US citizens to Mexico for being brown


[16-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
US fucking citizens


[16-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Born on US soil


[16-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
With US documentation and passports


[16-Feb-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
And they have no legal recourse


[16-Feb-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483323-sanders-interrupted-by-anti-dairy-industry-protesters-during-nevada-rally#

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Sanders interrupted by anti-dairy industry protesters during Nevada...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was interrupted by anti-dairy industry protesters at a presidential campaign rally in Nevada on Sunday.
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[16-Feb-20 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What were they protesting?


[16-Feb-20 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, basically a PETA like bunch of wackos?


[16-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[16-Feb-20 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why did they go after Bernie in particular?


[16-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because progressive but not a PETA nutter.


[16-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cares about workers on dairy farms, not the cows.


[16-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "Not Me, Us" not "Not Moo, Us"

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[16-Feb-20 11:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/communist-fox-network-angers-trump-fans-at-daytona-500-by-cutting-to-commercial-as-he-begins-speech/

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‘Communist’ FOX network angers Trump fans at Daytona 500 by cutting...
The FOX broadcast network seemingly snubbed the president of the United States on Sunday when it cut to commercial while he was speaking. Viewers complained on Twitter that FOX Sports cut away prior to President Donald Trump’s campaign-style speech at the Daytona 500, where he...
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[16-Feb-20 11:41 PM] illumnious#7938
This is new


[16-Feb-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve heard the opposite about it till now


[16-Feb-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it ran as normal and aired fine


[16-Feb-20 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably regional


[16-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird seeing Trump fans say Bloomberg is had because he made his money from Wall Street


[16-Feb-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you're only good if you made your money through russian mafia run banks


[16-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're basically talking like Bernie supporters and saying Wall Street is bad


[16-Feb-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's because it came out of trump's mouth


[16-Feb-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is basically telling his supporters to support bernie because it might collapse the democratic party and hand him the presidency again


[16-Feb-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's playing divide and conquer with the democrats


[16-Feb-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on top of these he also hopes to get bernie nominated because he thinks he can wipe the floor with bernie


[16-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i didn't notice any commercial cut in the speech i saw. must've been select stations.


[16-Feb-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah it sounds liek a regional thing


[16-Feb-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox is a regional based channel, the schedule is the same, but every state has itls own version of the morning/evening news, and it;s own ads


[16-Feb-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and probably ad break schedules too


[16-Feb-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from the sounds of it, mike bloomberg bought a campaign ad spot in that exact schedule slot just to fuck with trump in a few states


[17-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brilliant


[17-Feb-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
uwu


[17-Feb-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chuck Grassley should go chuck some grass at someone


[17-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine thinking you're a political genius for "creating" the concept of "go to every county in Iowa"


[17-Feb-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Create teleporters for every citizen in Iowa so they can vote everywhere at once


[17-Feb-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/1228935165386248192?s=19

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Murkowski votes to acquit Trump, giving McConnell a big win. Days later comes the announcement that Chao (McConnell’s wife) has awarded Alaska a big grant. 😒 https://t.co/wZjknpvNCY
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[17-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as when Chao gave money to Kentucky


[17-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best people


[17-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except all the ones that quit or get fired


[17-Feb-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump should really fire the guy who keeps hiring these losers


[17-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
this fuckin guy https://derpibooru.org/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=4700127#post_4700127

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Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) - Gen...
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[17-Feb-20 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
posting links to derpi without www. is rusophobic :reppy:


[17-Feb-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
shut up bich


[17-Feb-20 01:11 AM] ononim#8141
net ty V:<


[17-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ReplaceMovieTitleWithTrump

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#ReplaceMovieTitleWithTrump - Twitter Search
2h ago @JeffreyGuterman tweeted: "Trump Fiction
#ReplaceMovieTitleWithTrump" - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
Twitter


[17-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump to the Future


[17-Feb-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Throw Trump From the Train


[17-Feb-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Trump Centipede


[17-Feb-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Star Trump: Wrath of Trump


[17-Feb-20 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Great Trumpsby


[17-Feb-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trumptanic


[17-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
King Trump
Trump Trek 3: The Search for Putin
Trumpback Mountain starring Mike Pence


[17-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*quickly looks at shelf*


[17-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Uhhhh **Trump Rangers**


[17-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Starship Trumpers


[17-Feb-20 02:02 AM] jlun2#8758
My Little Trump: The Movie


[17-Feb-20 02:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Get Out
Trump Out


[17-Feb-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
high school trumpical


[17-Feb-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
High Trump Musical


[17-Feb-20 02:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Cloudy with a chance of Trump.


[17-Feb-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Kung Fu Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump Centipede


[17-Feb-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how to train your trump


[17-Feb-20 02:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump Madness


[17-Feb-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump The Hedgehog


[17-Feb-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the simpson's trump


[17-Feb-20 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump Troopers


[17-Feb-20 02:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
John Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumpy Doo


[17-Feb-20 02:13 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump and Dumber


[17-Feb-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trump mile


[17-Feb-20 02:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Avengers: Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ernest saves Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Kill The Trump Man


[17-Feb-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Of Trump and Men


[17-Feb-20 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump Hard


[17-Feb-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
To kill a Mocking Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
0045: Trumpum of Solace


[17-Feb-20 02:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trumps List


[17-Feb-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Fast and Trumpious


[17-Feb-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps in the outfield


[17-Feb-20 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The Good, The Bad and The Trump.


[17-Feb-20 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump Gump


[17-Feb-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sherdonald Holmp


[17-Feb-20 02:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Forrest Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Saving Private Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Full Trump Jacket


[17-Feb-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump Kazoo and you can too!


[17-Feb-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nineteen Eighty Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump Bastards


[17-Feb-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Red Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trumpo: First Blood


[17-Feb-20 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A Trump Orange


[17-Feb-20 02:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Die Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Life of Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Monty Trumpthon and The Meaning of Trump


[17-Feb-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
saving cadet bone spurs


[17-Feb-20 02:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Jurassic Trump :raptorshy:


[17-Feb-20 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Kill Trump:Vol 1
Kill Trump:Vol2


[17-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1228937410739703808

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Minh Ngo (@minhtngo)
https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1228937410739703808
Mike Bloomberg's ads are devastating & effective.

I hope he is not the nominee. And when he's not 🤞, I hope he continues to fund his digital and social media team to produce ads like this to help Dems defeat Trump and flip the Senate in November.

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[17-Feb-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Devastating and effective"


[17-Feb-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What kind of world do centrist dems live in


[17-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My guess is that they put clips of actual Trump on channels that people that don't usually watch news watch


[17-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A big problem with politics/society as a whole is the number of people that are aware of what politicians do, even to a minor degree, is extremely small


[17-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most people ain't got time for that


[17-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Life is either too miserable, or things are going well enough that there's no incentive


[17-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those people will of course still be adamant and resolute on their support or detraction of certain politicians/parties/policies, of course


[17-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they've been memed on or it's just "tradition"


[17-Feb-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/678784782615707699/EQ7t_6WWkAA9qSk.png

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[17-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These the PETA crazies?


[17-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[17-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never really understood animal rights


[17-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're not humans, the only real thing I care about for them safety wise is so humans don't get sick.


[17-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's different for me from say, wild animals where I believe that they need to be preserved not for us, but for their own sake


[17-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I do get not being unnecessarily cruel, but there are bigger fights going on


[17-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, of all the candidates to go after...


[17-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Almost feels like some shit orchestrated to make Bernie more palatable to the reactionary anti-sjw crowd...


[17-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well there's precedent for him letting people talk even at his rallies


[17-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, that makes him look really, really bad among that crowd, they still talk about the BLM incident


[17-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I heard CBS news report that and it was like, wow they really don't want to actually describe it.


[17-Feb-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
"partially-clothed protesters"


[17-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Followed by a clip of Bernie saying that "there's always a little excitement in Nevada"


[17-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are still wanting to name the whistleblower


[17-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I honestly want to hear a Democrat explode at these people and be like


[17-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What is it you want? The whistleblower to be fucking murdered? Just shot in broad daylight, will that satisfy you?"


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican would just deflect by saying they want "transparency"


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"So you can do what?"


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh, pointless


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Be open for the American people"


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta realize, if someone isn't forced to answer questions, they can and will deflect forever.


[17-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And just use it to grandstand whatever they want to.


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ask only leading and loaded questions


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Steelman hard


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they aren't forced to answer, they will never answer


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is the basics of being a politician.


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not a courtroom.


[17-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of putting people under actual questioning under oath is to get them to actually answer or be held in contempt.


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People seem to dislike "process crimes"


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't get Republicans under actual questioning under oath then you can't burn them with their own lies and deflections.


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I think if it happened now a lot of people would say that perjury like Clinton did "was hardly anything"


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what people like.


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is not to get someone arrested for something.


[17-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is for someone to dig their own grave.


[17-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[17-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would be screwed if they were forced to answer direct questions.


[17-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483330-sanders-hits-bloomberg-for-trying-to-buy-the-presidency

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Sanders hits Bloomberg for trying 'to buy the presidency'
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) slammed his Democratic primary rival Michael Bloomberg on Sunday, accusing the former New York City mayor of trying to "buy the presidency" with millions of dollars' worth of TV ads.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersberne_021120getty.jpg


[17-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly, Bernie sounds/talks a lot like Trump.


[17-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, if trump was ethical and cared about people other than himself maybe


[17-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the method of speaking.


[17-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/datashade/status/1220198019754315776

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jessus no bernie you cant say things like that https://t.co/y9BTENqHQU
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[17-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This impersonator saying "hot chip" is my current aesthetic


[17-Feb-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
impersonator?


[17-Feb-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
are you sure it's not just deepfake?


[17-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
there's no way that's a real person


[17-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The original said it was an AI


[17-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can usually tell by the discordant tonality


[17-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, I just saw a CNN opinion piece saying that bernie's in a "weird position" that's "uncharted waters" for him because he's currently the frontrunner when he's been the underdog his entire life


[17-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
basically questioning bernie's ability to "handle the spotlight" or whatever because he's never been taken seriously before or something


[17-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/16/politics/parscale-tweet-daytona-500-air-force-one-photo/index.html

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Trump campaign manager deletes dramatic Air Force One photo after p...
The photo Brad Parscale tweeted to his 519,000 followers was from President George W. Bush's visit to the Daytona 500 in 2004.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200216174923-bush-air-force-one-daytona-file-2004-super-tease.jpg


[17-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
is there like an inverse relationship between competence and yesmanship?


[17-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/16/politics/prosecutors-doj-officials-barr-resign/index.html

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More than 1,100 former prosecutors and other DOJ officials call on ...
More than 1,110 former Justice Department officials who served in Republican as well as Democratic administrations posted a statement Sunday calling on Attorney General Bill Barr to resign.
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[17-Feb-20 05:08 AM] jlun2#8758
> is there like an inverse relationship between competence and yesmanship?
I don't know, but that sounds like some potential psych. paper


[17-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/IOlYoQF.png

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Not even putting on airs
https://i.imgur.com/IOlYoQF.png


[17-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Competency implies double-chekking things, including the results of others, and not immediately saying yes without doing such.


[17-Feb-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yesmanship implies taking everything for granted, and immediately saying yes without scrutinizing things.


[17-Feb-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
For these not to be opposite would be strange.


[17-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the god damned _fuck_ drinks wine in a tumbler?

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[17-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans.

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[17-Feb-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of stuff Americans do is based around making parties really "clean" by removing anything ornate that's expensive/fragile.


[17-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blame capitalism.


[17-Feb-20 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
and then snorting coke in an ashtray in the bathroom through rolled up $1 bills


[17-Feb-20 05:47 AM] jlun2#8758
I had to google what that was, and apparently I'm not the only one who thought it was a tumblr joke

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[17-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
🥃


[17-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
I've always associated the word with the smaller, squat glass, similar to the one on the right


[17-Feb-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
glass isn't even expensive


[17-Feb-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I have been fooled into thinking that breaking glass is a terrible mistake that costs a lot of money and is hard to replace


[17-Feb-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
but then you go online and you can buy it cheap as shit


[17-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
but apparently it applies to pretty much any straight (or near straight) cup similar to those


[17-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
there's both plastic and glass tumblers too


[17-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/40025/1197748.jpg

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[17-Feb-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the reason tumblers are rarely plastic probably has to do with the reason booze is sold in glass bottles


[17-Feb-20 05:51 AM] jlun2#8758
I always just called them "cups".


[17-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The point of tumblers is to be bottom heavy, tall and/or plastic defeats that


[17-Feb-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, is that it?


[17-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik at least


[17-Feb-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
booze cups are made of glass because it's inert


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
supposedly


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Glass is also far easier to keep clean


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
though


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if you just lined the damn cup with teflon


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it would never even get dirty


[17-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
(nonstick coating)


[17-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I admit to not being aware of teflon applied to plastics


[17-Feb-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
teflon is a plastic


[17-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I sort of assumed it would deteriorate if the surface its applied to changes shape


[17-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not dishwasher safe


[17-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
which basically ruins the appeal


[17-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't understand the appeal of dishwashers myself


[17-Feb-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just, like, wash shit after your meals


[17-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
many boomers married dishwashers :^)


[17-Feb-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth are you eating that you even need gloves or whatever to clean some dishes or cookware


[17-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My parents bought a dishwasher 2-3 years ago, and I get it, because they're at that age where standing over the sink can get painful


[17-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyone under 60? Shame...


[17-Feb-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
the detergent messes with your skin or something


[17-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
soaps can dissolve skin


[17-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
that is well established


[17-Feb-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but usually skin is covered in a sacrificial keratin layer


[17-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most Americans will find ways to automate dishwashing, even if it means a countertop dishwasher


[17-Feb-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A person washing every dish by hand now is just wasting time


[17-Feb-20 06:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That statement gave me anxiety


[17-Feb-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gloves when washing dishes come from the time when a dishwasher cost thousands and someone would spend hours cleaning them


[17-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What freaks me out


[17-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is when I watch shows or movies


[17-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And there's a sink full of water with dishes in them


[17-Feb-20 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like wtf even


[17-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This just reminds me about how Europeans until recently didn't know what garbage disposals were


[17-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently


[17-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, the concept is surreal


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
fixed the page bug in tartarus


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
was irritating me


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I heard about a family that didn't have trash cans, they bought an industrial disposal and put absolutely every bit down it


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Yeah just wipe plate full of food and waste and bones down the sink and flick a switch to have a blender deal with it"


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What the god damned inverse fuck


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Teaspoon, americans live in a society


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one puts bones down it, what the fuck


[17-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I've seen people put bones down it


[17-Feb-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
bones and eggshells and shit


[17-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eggshells sure


[17-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bones?


[17-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chicken bones


[17-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still doesn't work


[17-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like something someone who hasn't tried would say


[17-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the american horror movies are clear on how those things will happily shred through fingers, after all


[17-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They will. It's a blender.


[17-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fingers have bones...


[17-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem in America is hardly bones, it is mainly shampoo/cooking grease/wipes


[17-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those are the things that fuck up sewer systems


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The latter two especially


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wait wait wait wait


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wait


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"wipes"


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you meaning to tell me


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
people put wipes down the drain


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
all the time


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That people flush down wipes


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
sometimes napkins


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some claim to be biodegradable


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
cloth


[17-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc


[17-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up "fatberg"


[17-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I do not do any of these things fyi


[17-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
but I know people who are like


[17-Feb-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
happy to pour a full pan of ripping hot bacon grease down the drain


[17-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're supposed to store that shit in a jar


[17-Feb-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
no shit


[17-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit it would be better to dump it in the garden and kill the grass in one spot


[17-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything but the drain


[17-Feb-20 06:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hell, in spain they have little filters for reusing greese


[17-Feb-20 06:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So you can fry stuff with "old" greese 3-4 times before getting rid of it


[17-Feb-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I cannot tell you how many times I have had to get drain opener for the back house because my idiot aunt poured the grease into the sink


[17-Feb-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
and every time I tell her to just pour it into a mug and give it to the dog


[17-Feb-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
she's also a raging alcoholic though so


[17-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's also very little reason to even use oils anymore these days, between electric pressure cookers, air fryers, and microwaves


[17-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess people still cook their steaks in half an inch of rapeseed oil or some shit


[17-Feb-20 06:48 AM] byte[]#2610
well, no, some foods naturally produce oil when being cooked, like bacon


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
and a lot of dishes call for oil in preparation like steaks (butter sauces) and stir fries (margarine or vegetable oil)


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are those dishes that common?


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
they are to me


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe not to others


[17-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
/he says, knowing that people eat bacon every day twice a day


[17-Feb-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I know other people who eat frozen meals for every meal and never use kitchen equipment


[17-Feb-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
and people who only make salads and pasta and never get their stuff oily


[17-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The internet is giving me a sense of dread I just would rather not have tbh


[17-Feb-20 06:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I should have become a hermit


[17-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
people are fucking weird


[17-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon when buying bulk cooking oil in europe, is it typically rapeseed?


[17-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
over here in the states it's mostly canola (rapeseed derivative)


[17-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
sometimes palm


[17-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rapeseed is bottom shelf and usually whitelabel


[17-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sunflower is the most common, olive oil is where brand names come in play


[17-Feb-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
hm


[17-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I cannot remember seeing canola oil in the normal oil section


[17-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Peanut oil you can find in the "exotics" section


[17-Feb-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
canola is just a particular rapeseed variant, but it's one of the only bulk cooking oils you can get mass market here


[17-Feb-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
olive oil is another


[17-Feb-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't recall ever seeing sunflower


[17-Feb-20 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sunflower is the most common here for cooking and frying


[17-Feb-20 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has a high smoke temperature and has little effect on taste


[17-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Olive oil has a stronger taste and you can tell when its burnt


[17-Feb-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
olive oil is just too damn expensive to use as a frying oil


[17-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rapeseed being less popular may be a cultural thing, like it was popular in commieland thus bad or something


[17-Feb-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
well it's extremely popular in the states


[17-Feb-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
almost every US fast food chain uses canola


[17-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In Spain at least you will be hardpressed to find it


[17-Feb-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't have any common allergens and it's produced cheaply


[17-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[17-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently one of the reasons for that is a mass poisoning 40 years ago...


[17-Feb-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is a serious conversation but I can't let it slide that you said you'd be *hardpressed* to find canola oil


[17-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oil jokes, haha


[17-Feb-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
US going to invade this chat


[17-Feb-20 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
f


[17-Feb-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
🛢️ 🇺🇸 🛢️


[17-Feb-20 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
remember how trump said not too long ago that the US should occupy syria and steal their oil


[17-Feb-20 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a thing that happened


[17-Feb-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't even rank that high on the list of idiotic things the president has said


[17-Feb-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
mostly because it's true, the US just wants the oil


[17-Feb-20 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck diplomatic relations


[17-Feb-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm glad you managed to swing it around to politics again but I'm afraid it was a simple pun


[17-Feb-20 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's why his voters expect from US involvement in the region


[17-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why else would American soldiers be there if not to bring back black gold?


[17-Feb-20 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
well, to kill brown people of course


[17-Feb-20 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸


[17-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ofc


[17-Feb-20 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess there are two types of GOP voters: "kill dem sandniggers" and "we are owed this oil"


[17-Feb-20 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
three if you count the intersection


[17-Feb-20 07:12 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
oil


[17-Feb-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nature's lube


[17-Feb-20 07:13 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
we use it to fuk nature


[17-Feb-20 07:13 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
So close enough


[17-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
why dump bacon grease, store it and use it for cooking


[17-Feb-20 07:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's recycling, sounds like some commie shit to me tbfh


[17-Feb-20 07:36 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
MURICA FUK YEAH


[17-Feb-20 08:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/678849831892156446/15819208036355790010854629622631.jpg

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[17-Feb-20 09:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/483196-senate-braces-for-fight-over-impeachment-whistleblower-testimony

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Senate braces for fight over impeachment whistleblower testimony
Senators are reviving the fight over the whistleblower complaint at the center of the months-long impeachment effort against President Trump.
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[17-Feb-20 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/topless-protester-confronts-bernie-sanders-de-blasio-at-nevada-campaign-rally/

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Topless protester confronts Bernie Sanders, de Blasio at Nevada cam...
A shirtless woman was part of a group that took the stage moments after Mayor Bill de Blasio introduced Sanders to the stage in Nevada.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/topless-protestor.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[17-Feb-20 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
> It’s not the first time a Sanders rally has been disrupted by a topless protester — a woman showed up at a March 2016 rally in Arizona with the words “Stop Fascism” and “Hate speech is not free.”


[17-Feb-20 02:44 PM] jlun2#8758
> Stop Facism
what


[17-Feb-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also why at a sanders campaign, wouldnt this make mroe sense at a bloomberg speech?


[17-Feb-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/budget/483207-budget-hawks-frustrated-by-2020-politics-in-entitlement-reform-fight

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Budget hawks frustrated by 2020 politics in entitlement reform fight
Budget watchers are growing increasingly frustrated about the politicization of tackling cost-saving measures in entitlement programs, particularly Medicare.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/medicareprotester_112611getty_lead.jpg


[17-Feb-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483357-bloomberg-hits-sanders-supporters-in-new-ad

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Bloomberg hits Sanders supporters in new ad
Democratic presidential contender Michael Bloomberg on Monday hit Sen. Bernie Sanders's supporters in a new digital ad as the progressive senator faces backlash for the rhetoric and behavior of some of his supporters.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bloombergmike_012220gn5_lead.jpg


[17-Feb-20 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1229449731920646145?s=21

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https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1229449731920646145?s=21
Presidents' Day is a cruel joke.
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[17-Feb-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
``` "Not Moo, Us"```


[17-Feb-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
replace beef products with Soilent Green? 🤔


[17-Feb-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Feb-20 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1229451493746470912?s=21

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The fakest news of all time.
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[17-Feb-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how can god bow to trump, when god died to ||mike tyson||?


[17-Feb-20 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
He's so close https://i.redd.it/3hr78v62teh41.jpg

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[17-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They believe in "death panels"


[17-Feb-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Feb-20 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
```Rapeseed being less popular may be a cultural thing, like it was popular in commieland thus bad or something```


[17-Feb-20 06:27 PM] Opponent#3498
even in ex-commieland sunflower seems to be most popular.


[17-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
although that might be 'recent' (30-40 years) development


[17-Feb-20 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
the stuff grows everywhere and produces a lot of oil


[17-Feb-20 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
thus, useful and common


[17-Feb-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actual link https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1229177598003077123

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Hilary Agro 🍄 (@hilaryagro)
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1229177598003077123
During my research I interviewed a guy who said he was a libertarian until he did MDMA and realized that other people have feelings, and that was pretty much the best summary of libertarianism I've ever heard
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[17-Feb-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
We live in a society.

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[17-Feb-20 06:32 PM] jlun2#8758
Legalize MDMA to cure libertarians?


[17-Feb-20 06:32 PM] jlun2#8758
also at the lip cancer tweet: ??? Does he think commies somehow gave him cancer?


[17-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks Socialism = Death Panels = denying care to the elderly.


[17-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't realize what Medicare actually is.


[17-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was a very common "talking point" for republicans during Obama


[17-Feb-20 06:34 PM] jlun2#8758
Let me guess. It still is a common kind of thinking


[17-Feb-20 06:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Government supported healthcare = government chooses who lives and who dies by committee


[17-Feb-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The truth is it's generally conservatives who actually set up those kinds of things.


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I haven't heard it lately, but it was 8 years' worth of propaganda on FOX or any time a GOP member or pundit opened their mouths


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They make big talk about how gov't doesn't hav unlimited money, cut taxes, then start rationing stuff to only certain cases with tons of red tape.


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder can you give them MDMA :ponythinking:


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they make big talk about how they'll remove the red tape to win more votes.


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And create more red tape once in office.


[17-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can see this a ton with immigration. Anything that lets them put down brown people.


[17-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the point of rationing services isn't to save money (the red tape costs money to hav and destroys efficiency), it's to decide some people aren't worthy of being people.


[17-Feb-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
So liberals set up some services like, that get disabled people jobs. Republicans start ranting about how guys with ADHD shouldn't get shit, soon enuff, blind people are on years-long waitlists and secretaries are sitting around doing nothing.


[17-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Election season comes up with "government is not the solution, it just creates more problems with its inefficiency! They can't even screw in a lightbulb without twelve forms!"


[17-Feb-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Half of said forms being ones the Republican came up with, that make sure it's a white person's lightbulb.


[17-Feb-20 06:39 PM] jlun2#8758
and people fall for this every election. rip then


[17-Feb-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an effective strategy with Boomers.


[17-Feb-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't remember WWII so they don't trust the gov't


[17-Feb-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
and if they realize what's really going on, they're supportive because they're racist shits.


[17-Feb-20 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials are less likely to fall for it because it's easier to trakk shit down now, so they actually stand a chance of realizing that so and so is the one who actually called for the rationing to begin with.


[17-Feb-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Millennials are far less racist and many are targets of the rationing.


[17-Feb-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also spread the information they find en masse


[17-Feb-20 06:42 PM] jlun2#8758
> Drugs alone won't make you a good person, as much as we wanna believe that acid in the water supply would solve everything, if psychedelics automatically turned people into socialists then Silicon Valley wouldn't be the den of sociopathic venture capitalist ghouls that it is lol
rip nvm


[17-Feb-20 06:42 PM] ononim#8141
нуфр


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] ononim#8141
yeah*


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, it is really only a matter of time before Republican strategy fails, but it could be a few decades.


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] ononim#8141
sunflower oil is the oil in post-ussr land


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 thing is, certain drugs mess with the brain in a way useful for therapy.


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
MDMA in particular just opens emotional floodgates


[17-Feb-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why it's the drug of choice of going to a rave


[17-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's also the drug of choice for successful therapy.


[17-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that the US has been trying to prevent its use in such.


[17-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if you want to get someone's PTSD lessened, you giv them MDMA


[17-Feb-20 06:44 PM] jlun2#8758
I only remember it from https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06746-x because :lewd:

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Octopuses on ecstasy just want a cuddle
Molluscs’ reaction to popular party drug echoes humans’ response.
https://media.nature.com/lw1024/magazine-assets/d41586-018-06746-x/d41586-018-06746-x_16129514.jpg


[17-Feb-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you hav them talk about wtf happened.


[17-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism isn't something you can just wave away with a magic drug, but it does get altered by altered brain states.


[17-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anti-anxiety medication makes people less racist.


[17-Feb-20 06:45 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[17-Feb-20 06:45 PM] jlun2#8758
ty


[17-Feb-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
MDMA can probably at least temporarity make people less able to just ignore the feelings of others.


[17-Feb-20 06:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1229362927515381762

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Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins)
https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1229362927515381762
Now listening to audio of @AngelaDSaini’s book, Superior. Well written & well narrated by author. Interesting, well-researched treatment of racism, and insidious below-the-radar persistence of covert racism after overt racism became unrespectable.
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[17-Feb-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv every Republican Senator MDMA and show them pictures of migrants in camps and you'd probably see them start thinking about drafting bills to change things.


[17-Feb-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
What about ketamine


[17-Feb-20 07:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/letsgoayo/status/1229222530189332482?s=19

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let's go Ayo (@letsgoayo)
https://twitter.com/letsgoayo/status/1229222530189332482?s=19
man what the fuck.
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[17-Feb-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry, but this is the only doggo i am willing to shoot.


[17-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[17-Feb-20 07:14 PM] illumnious#7938
Bitch wha https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/technology/alexa-jamming-bracelet-privacy-armor.html

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By Kashmir Hill
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/technology/alexa-jamming-bracelet-privacy-armor.html
Activate This ‘Bracelet of Silence,’ and Alexa Can’t Eavesdrop
Microphones and cameras lurk everywhere. You may want to slip on some privacy armor.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/16/business/14PRIVACYARMOR-01/14PRIVACYARMOR-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Feb-20 07:16 PM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like video game mtx irl


[17-Feb-20 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Watch_Dogs


[17-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are bernie bros even real


[17-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Feels like some bullshit the Clinton campaign made up


[17-Feb-20 07:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I keep seeing mentions about them in twitter threads and article comments, but that's it


[17-Feb-20 07:26 PM] jlun2#8758
same


[17-Feb-20 07:27 PM] Opponent#3498
extremely hard to disprove (being popular movement), so it made sense to start the meme


[17-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
that said, I'm not sure if it does much.


[17-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
when a choice is between a guy who wants to help you, with some shitheads among supporters, and a guy who wants to subjugate you with exclusively shitheads for supporters


[17-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not even shades of gray.


[17-Feb-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
black and white reasoning is the only way to get through to some people


[17-Feb-20 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/philippine-decision-to-exit-vfa-with-us-may-help-china-2020-2

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A major US ally in the Pacific wants to scrap an important military...
The Philippines wants to end the Visiting Forces Agreement it has with the US. A similar move in the '90s gave Beijing an edge in the South China Sea.
https://i.insider.com/5e470cc22dae5c62b71a3a92?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Feb-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bioweapon-tom-cotton-conspiracy-theory-china-warfare-leak-2020-2

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A GOP senator keeps pushing a thoroughly debunked theory that the W...
The conspiracy theory focuses on the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, a government lab near the meat market at the center of the outbreak.
https://i.insider.com/5e4a8da22dae5c150c7b1939?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Feb-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this conspiracy is spreading all over my college too


[17-Feb-20 07:52 PM] jlun2#8758
how does america keep electing whacky people


[17-Feb-20 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because most americans don't know who they're voting for


[17-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Election days comes, they check the box that has a D or an R on it, they go home


[17-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And these people get on the ballot by sticking out


[17-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
if Chinese government harbors a Nurglite cult, the salvation is closer than we anticipated. I'm all for this outcome :P


[17-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Say something stupid or extreme and suddenly you're on the news


[17-Feb-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the other side is probably attacking you for whatever you said


[17-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that makes you very electable for your side


[17-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
regardless of what it was you said.


[17-Feb-20 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
generate hype, basicly.


[17-Feb-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yqyfm0xbvk

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penguinz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yqyfm0xbvk
People Meltdown Over Oscars
This is the greatest oscar win of All Time
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-yqyfm0xbvk/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Feb-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/679032543063965696/i61qruojwhh41.png

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[17-Feb-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
KEK


[17-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
>Reagan


[17-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Well that's not surprising


[17-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Also I'm too distracted by the fact that his name is Bort


[17-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au1He0_eCkw

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mtotsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au1He0_eCkw
Bort License Plates
Bort License Plates
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[17-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
creepy video artefacts


[17-Feb-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/k9cdvk1u1eh41.jpg

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[17-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is anti-science.


[17-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of tests others will also carry out to reach an understanding runs contrary to the idea of property rights.


[17-Feb-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses will always want to suppress certain findings and promulgate certain others to benefit their product.


[17-Feb-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
Searching for boomers gave me this 
https://www.tvo.org/article/waiting-for-baby-boomers-to-die-is-not-effective-housing-policy

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Waiting for baby boomers to die is not effective housing policy | T...
OPINION: A new report says that a once-reliable way of bringing homes to the resale market isn’t working like it used to. It’s another indication that our housing policies aren’t keeping up with our housing crisis.
https://www.tvo.org/sites/default/files/media-library/politics_housingoutro.jpg


[17-Feb-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, it isnt an effective policy, but most other policies we would try keep getting cock blocked by realtor boomers


[17-Feb-20 08:53 PM] jlun2#8758
dancing nazi boomers dabbing and trying to be hip


[17-Feb-20 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1229337439543521282?s=19https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1229337439543521282?s=19

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IGN (@IGN)
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1229337439543521282?s=19https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1229337439543521282?s=19
ICYMI: Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney has argued to keep politics out of gaming altogether and keep game companies "neutral" avenues where developers can sell games. https://t.co/t5au4wm8cr
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[17-Feb-20 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
gamers: wtf we love Epic™️ now!


[17-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What he actually argued for is for publishers and the like to not direct developers to introduce politics, but instead let developers choose to be as political as they wanted


[17-Feb-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
> keep politics out of gaming altogether
Kinda hard anyways; a dev adds 1 female playable character, and the vocal twitter mob goes nuts with e-pitchforks


[17-Feb-20 09:27 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon IGN still garbage at properly reporting, I see


[17-Feb-20 09:29 PM] ononim#8141
clickbaiting like this ought to be fined tbh, because overwheleming majority will get their news just from short titles or videos like this and not read the whole article (and honestly, understandable, imagine reading in depths about every single news topic in that day)


[17-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just IGN in this instance, practically every gaming site has run with the same story


[17-Feb-20 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gotta get them clicks .
The way Sweeny behaves though it would not surprise anyone if he was saying something hipocritical again and it would not be questioned.


[17-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just throw the babies their big tiddy anime "games" and do what you want after.


[17-Feb-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I know you're joking, but given the demand for visual novels, that might work to have a dedicated site for them


[17-Feb-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, I'm not joking. Legitimate solution, then remind them "I can make the game look how I want because I made it, and this character is how I want them to look"


[17-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, the guy with chinese government having shoved a boot up his ass _would_ want to keep politics out of the games


[17-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
least it's very obvious this time


[17-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51539321

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Jeff Bezos pledges $10bn to fight climate change
The Amazon boss and world's richest man gives 8% of his fortune to fight the planet's "biggest threat".
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[17-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. In 1000 years, accounting for inflation in advance.


[17-Feb-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Every time I read about this guy I want to punch him in the face even harder


[17-Feb-20 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18242099.andrew-sabisky-made-vile-claims-women-sex-reddit/

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REVEALED: PM's new aide made vile claims about women and sex on Reddit
THE Prime Minister’s newest adviser, who quit amid controversy tonight, once claimed it was a woman’s Christian “duty” to have sex with her…
https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/11039399/


[17-Feb-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm sorry TSP it's my christian duty to have sex with you


[17-Feb-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Now bend over

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[17-Feb-20 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
:<


[17-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He didn't resign over those, though, but for this golden nugget
`Sabisky resigned after he reportedly suggested black people have lower IQs than white people and claimed compulsory contraception could prevent “creating a permanent underclass”.`


[17-Feb-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
The politics thread is raising my BP a lot


[17-Feb-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I need to leave it


[17-Feb-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
It boggles the mind that people can care more about the size of a numeric figure on a piece of paper


[17-Feb-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
Than a million people dying from preventable diseases


[17-Feb-20 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is because empathy is seen as a liberal weakness


[17-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only explanation that makes sense is they're borderline psychopaths that've never experienced hardship, or blamed that hardship on "them"


[17-Feb-20 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You should make policy based on "facts and logic," not a gut instinct or "feelings" - the general impression I got from my alt-right "friends"


[17-Feb-20 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
man, lotta quotes in the air today


[17-Feb-20 11:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
number big mean country good


[17-Feb-20 11:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm still baffled that the econ guy I was talking to seemed unfamiliar or unwilling to accept a common definition of "living wage"


[17-Feb-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
number big life good


[17-Feb-20 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"bemused" might be a better word than baffled tbh


[17-Feb-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony sounds what'll really blow his mind is costs that are not financial in nature


[17-Feb-20 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not even sure this guy applies the concept of externalities to daily life, given that he is a *staunch* nationalist


[17-Feb-20 11:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
to the extent that he thinks the best thing for America is to isolate ourselves from all allies and bring our industries back home


[17-Feb-20 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but hoo boy, if anyone even hints at him being in any way bigoted or, y'know, the "bad" kind of nationalist, he gets highly defensive Don't You Know His Wife Is Asian


[17-Feb-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I have a black friend


[17-Feb-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
etc.


[17-Feb-20 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[17-Feb-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
uh oh


[17-Feb-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont get it


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that looks like /mlpol/


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's patachu


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And nazis have a hardon for lightning bolts because of the SS symbol


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nXKxVySnL._AC_SL1200_.jpg

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[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's the British Union of Fascist symbol


[17-Feb-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh ok


[17-Feb-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt know about that symbol


[17-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The concept that there are fascists that watch MLP just blows my mind


[17-Feb-20 11:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists

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British Union of Fascists
The British Union of Fascists (BUF) was a fascist political party in the United Kingdom formed in 1932 by Oswald Mosley. It changed its name to the British Union of Fascists and National Socialists in 1936 and, in 1937, to British Union. It was disbanded in 1940, after it was ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/BUF_political_logo.png


[17-Feb-20 11:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*fascists that watch seasons 1-3 of MLP


[17-Feb-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it bad that whenever anyone says "uh oh" at a symbol my first thought is "oh god this is nazis isnt it?"


[17-Feb-20 11:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, if I can have someone tell me to my face, straight-faced, that none of the evidence of Trump's wrongdoing is real because Trump did nothing wrong...I can absolutely believe that someone could watch a show for little girls and have the **ei** grade moral lessons fly over their heads


[17-Feb-20 11:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, nazis just like cool symbols in general. Old symbol for peace? Ours now. Nifty nordic rune thingy? Well, we'll use that now that we can't use the swastika. It's gotten to the point where they're just claiming anything as an alt-right symbol to see if it'll end up on the list of hate symbols


[17-Feb-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit nazis stop, this is why we cant have nice things like the chaplin stache....


[17-Feb-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then you've got pedo groups taking up other innocuous and geometrically simple symbology. Like, whatever you do, don't draw a triangular spiral in blue


[17-Feb-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[17-Feb-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I remember some bus company had to change the upholstery on all their seats because it was emblazoned with that symbol


[17-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
pedo groups unironically have symbols? xD


[17-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
or is it edgy /pol/ people again?


[17-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
cause the /pol/ edge can have people believe anything they want apparently.


[17-Feb-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think there's a pedo group on twitter that changes it;s symbol weekly and expresses it through name emojis


[17-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
still remember the pepe thing, the ok sign thing, the... shit, whatever else


[17-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
'society''s getting trolled willingly


[17-Feb-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well people afraid of lawsuits are getting trolled willingly


[17-Feb-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't forget *bowl cuts*


[17-Feb-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, who adopted bowl cuts...?


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
if you can sue someone for anything, it means your legal system is shit and you basicly can't do business


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
so much for due process xD


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's more that the ADL is easily trolled


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but yeah, white supremacists


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/bowlcutdylann-roof

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Bowlcut/Dylann Roof
The “Bowlcut” is an image of a bowl-shaped haircut resembling the one sported by white supremacist mass killer Dylan Roof. People who use the “bowlcut” image or other “bowl” references admire Roof and call for others to emulate his racist murders.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/open_graph_image_1200_x_628_/public/2019-08/bowlcut-1.jpg?itok=jridgc37


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not white supremacists


[17-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not the ones suing people nor people being sued


[17-Feb-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Opponent, we're not talking about the same thing atm


[17-Feb-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the conversation kinda split in two


[17-Feb-20 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To be honest, the bowlcut was never cool, so props for ruining something already bad I guess


[17-Feb-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i meant people and businesses afraid of being sued for having the imagery like schools, bus companies, advertisers. Not the ones using it for hatred


[17-Feb-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also why would you choose something as lame as a bowl cut for your symbol of hatred?


[17-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
so innocents (in context) are getting fucked, the guilty go free, the trolls are lmaoing and this is called the pinnacle of justice in the world.


[17-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well I guess there are worse things in the world.


[17-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is completely eradicate the church in the 19th century.


[17-Feb-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is this a league of people who now sport bowl cuts?


[17-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
A time machine and many, many bombs.


[17-Feb-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that would make spotting them so much easier, so props to them


[17-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just avoid the people with the bowl cuts and you should be fine


[17-Feb-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/RealAnonTheAnon/status/1229457852714168323

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[17-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie you keep saying radical left doesn't exist in US, that your 'radical left' is like center-left in Europe etc etc, but I can't off the top of my head name too many societies where there's this constant threat of being sued by rabid SJWs for flavour-of-the-week nazi fascist pedo symbol hanging over organisations and businesses. There might be only a few bad apples,  but they sure do raise an agonisingly horrible stink.


[17-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I see you don't hav a clue what "left" actually means.


[17-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
(no, its defining trait is not a desire to censor media)


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
one is all and all is one.


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Left" in this context basically means socialist.


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's bullshit.


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
as opposed to 'I is the only one that matters'


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing TSP was talking about was Bernie


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who is defined as EXTREMELY far left in US political terms


[17-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he'd be barely left of center in much of Europe


[17-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, saying that we should not privatize all industries is left.


[17-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Green party basically doesn't exist in the US


[17-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's just Republicans, who are basically AfD mixed with Tories


[17-Feb-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/hijackerdraws/status/1229526788016967680

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@RealAnonTheAnon @MKogwheel I've fixed the dynamic for everyone else in the thread
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[17-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Democrats, who are basically CDU mixed with Labour


[17-Feb-20 11:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone be like: "Lemme fix the problem by reversing the roles! It's so funny!"
And me, an intellectual be: "You fools. You utter fools. You daft fucking morons. The problem is not that the firm has the wrong boss, but that the firm exists at all."


[17-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's true @ Aaron. The existence of a _paid_ service is often indicative of an issue.


[17-Feb-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy. It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.


[17-Feb-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
that image is supposed to be this meme btw


[17-Feb-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/690/341/3c6.jpg


[17-Feb-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
I have also been approached already to do something as a react to this picture with offers to be paid.


[17-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
That image is fukkin' hot.


[17-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm willing to bet, there was a very good reason for the saying 'there's no harsher master than a former slave', more than just irrational fears.


[17-Feb-20 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
and even if not, the fear in this case is really, really strong.


[17-Feb-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's been 150 years


[17-Feb-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That photo is definitely from a porno


[17-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's just stop oppressing everyone with any modicum of pigment.


[17-Feb-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also I don't mean the photo, but the ponified version.


[17-Feb-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk well you do a robot terminators oppressing us in the future version given that's where we seem to be heading


[18-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
@AaronMk I just realised that's not what you meant


[18-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
oppression is bad no matter who's being oppressed, that was your idea


[18-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
derp. Took me a bit :/


[18-Feb-20 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or doing it, pretty much. In the end it's a line from or an allusion to Amadeo Bordiga. As I've been introduced, it's usually used to leverage criticism or has been used to begin criticism of Anarchist coop models for anti-capitalost resistance. Followed by a quip about how it's not much better if the workers democratically elect to democratically fire half the workforce democratically, in order to democratically raise profits.


[18-Feb-20 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/IrisHeartfang/status/1228960635196755968

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[18-Feb-20 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
too spicy to post in memes, I feel


[18-Feb-20 12:23 AM] jlun2#8758
MLP wonderbolts made me love latex crossdressing, so fine, but how does it make people become nazis? the nazi oc porn?


[18-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The show doesn't


[18-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's popularity among channers, however...


[18-Feb-20 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Said Twitter poster I guess also has a habit of blocking people who follow people they block or something and has run up into a situation where most of the Twitter fandom is blocked by them, lol. I guess basically they block anyone who draws or posts CMC Lewds.

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[18-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I wanted to like the tweet but

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[18-Feb-20 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao stop following filly porn artists

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[18-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Sounds like they just block for lewds in general


[18-Feb-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>blockchain


[18-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao get fucked


[18-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Lost a mutual follow to that shit, and I never really put any actual thought into it until the SqrlyJack thing


[18-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"I'm gonna block my friends because my friends follow this guy who follows this other guy that follows this other guy that was mean to me"


[18-Feb-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
on the other hand


[18-Feb-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
maybe we should make friend recommendations based on who we block


[18-Feb-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
like "hey, i blocked this motherfucker too, let's be friends!"

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[18-Feb-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[18-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:twismug:


[18-Feb-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru  https://www.deviantart.com/sqrlyjack ? what about it


[18-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
tl;dr: VimHomeless and Sqrly are having a discussion; Vim isn't being rude and is actually trying to have a discussion but Sqrly is just not having any of it, and blockchains him


[18-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
And since the follower overlap was pretty big, they ended up blocking a good number of mutuals


[18-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*Supposedly* they had a couple thousand followers before they blockchanied? Ended up with around 1250-ish last I saw


[18-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Not a good idea to run a blockchain on a guy with... ***63K*** followers :bigbrain:


[18-Feb-20 12:44 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[18-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
And since you can still see a blocked user's banner, they put a screenshot of... actually lemme just find it


[18-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ this was back in *July*


[18-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_Xxc8qW4AEcyVA.jpg:orig

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[18-Feb-20 12:49 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[18-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf is all this


[18-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Spicy memes led to me whining about blocks


[18-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
lmao that post from anontheanon, and all the edits


[18-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
wtf


[18-Feb-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Feb-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, he probably is...


[18-Feb-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't make it right


[18-Feb-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/vMT6tB4.jpg

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[18-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
so the key is to work in entertainment of some kind.


[18-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
if the insulin guy was running a popular blog or smth, things likely would be different.


[18-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, they'd have money or a well advertised gofundme


[18-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're poor you deserve to die badly for being poor


[18-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe in the next life be less poor

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[18-Feb-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just be born to a rich family like everyone else, you freak


[18-Feb-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The British government only hires the best advisers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51538493

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No 10 adviser resigns over alleged race comments
Andrew Sabisky said that he wanted to help the government, "not be a distraction".
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[18-Feb-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
In a comment on a 2014 blog post on Mr Cummings' website, made by a user called "Andrew Sabisky", it is suggested that compulsory contraception could be used to stop a "permanent underclass".

"One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty," says the post.

"Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue."

on a different website in 2014, what appears to be the same user suggested black Americans had a lower average IQ than white Americans.

In a comment on a different blog that same year, a user with his name said: "There are excellent reasons to think the very real racial differences in intelligence are significantly - even mostly - genetic in origin, though the degree is of course a very serious subject of scholarly debate."

Mr Sabisky also suggested to Schools Week in July 2016 that the benefits of a purported cognitive enhancer, which can prove fatal, are "probably worth a dead kid once a year".

"Eugenics are about selecting 'for' good things," he said in the same interview. "Intelligence is largely inherited and it correlates with better outcomes: physical health, income, lower mental illness.

And in a Twitter post from 2019, he said: "I am always straight up in saying that women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men's."


[18-Feb-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51535367

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No 10 refuses to condemn adviser's remarks
Labour calls for Andrew Sabisky to be sacked over reported comments on race and eugenics.
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[18-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> women's sport is more comparable to the Paralympics

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[18-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Do we have a yikes emoji yet


[18-Feb-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
big brain will suffice


[18-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always important to remember


[18-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That these completely idiotic and vile posts you find online


[18-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of them are 100% genuine


[18-Feb-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
~all of them are


[18-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a lot of the people behind them lead socially successful lives in business and politics


[18-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're people bosses and managers and decide who gets a loan


[18-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's only the really really stupid ones that get caught out like this


[18-Feb-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reddit.com/r/FloridaMan/comments/f5epby/florida_man_gets_naked_to_escape_deland_store/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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r/FloridaMan - Florida man gets naked to escape DeLand store; ribey...
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[18-Feb-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
What the hell


[18-Feb-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
lol oof


[18-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
herp


[18-Feb-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
don't post that


[18-Feb-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i didn't get a good look. just saw white.


[18-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll refresh in ~3 hours but anyway


[18-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still, nice to see europeans are a security threat


[18-Feb-20 02:09 AM] illumnious#7938
Aw crap I didn’t realize I posted under politics


[18-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1229413815571353600

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here's mike bloomberg after the 2016 election saying bernie sanders would have beat donald trump https://t.co/9i52ftNtVX https://t.co/ZRjOyfqenM
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[18-Feb-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
accurate!


[18-Feb-20 02:59 AM] jlun2#8758
but it's on TV; it must be true, or else how would they allow it one?
||Anyone else know boomers that use this argument?||


[18-Feb-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
towards cnn and msnbc, all the time


[18-Feb-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's in a youtube podcast it must be true!" is the internet equivalent


[18-Feb-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483396-trump-rejects-obama-for-taking-credit-for-strong-economy

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Trump rejects Obama taking credit for strong economy
President Trump on Monday accused former President Obama of "trying to take credit" for the strong economy.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/obamatrump_getty.jpg


[18-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
... that was years ago


[18-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
it really feels like trump has delayed memory or something


[18-Feb-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he possibly may


[18-Feb-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and twitter users have been blasting this fact at him for weeks now


[18-Feb-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he cant just let twitter users have the last word


[18-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
can 'society in decline' probably not political memes go here? :3


[18-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/forums/generals/topics/tartarus?post_id=4701382#post_4701382

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Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General) - Gen...
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[18-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll take that as a tentative 'yes, please don't hit me.'


[18-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489888838265733121/679146996522811435/tumblr_pupph32yl91xpvizao1_1280.png

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[18-Feb-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
can't tell if user is impossibly dense or arguing in bad faith


[18-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
to be honest the idea does sound quite insane, even if almost trivial in execution.


[18-Feb-20 03:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Who has a house big enough for a fridge to drive itself through?


[18-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
people who can afford this fridge, of course.


[18-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
despite being trivial, you better believe it'll cost an arm, a leg, an eye and a kidney, simply for being a novelty item.


[18-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
although I know a guy to suggest this to :P


[18-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're this rich why not just hire a personal chef


[18-Feb-20 04:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
But that would require interacting with the plebs.


[18-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
all seriousness, my friend once worked for a guy who legitimately couldn't interact with anyone making less than 1m$ a year.


[18-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
he had his butler direct the construction crew my friend was in, they did some renovations


[18-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
admittedly, at least the butler wasn't a cunt.


[18-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
(I only have to assume his house' staff were excluded from this rule, else he'd embrace mortality by starvation far too early.)


[18-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656
how's it powered,  compressors on a fridge are no joke for power consumption


[18-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
commercial thermoacoustic refrigeration can't come fast enough


[18-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it likely has a charging station like the roomba, and a pretty limited autonomous lifetime, measured in probably 10-20min


[18-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
you call it, take the stuff and send it away. The power source really is the greatest challenge here.


[18-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah thinking more about it it isn't that huge an issue, full sized fridges will pull like 4000 watts peak for a sec when they come start up but it doesn't run constantly


[18-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
it's small so it wouldn't be drawing 4000 watts


[18-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
even for an instant


[18-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's not insurmountable by any means.


[18-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
also on topic of 'oh god why', elderly and disabled folk come to mind. That's the primary focus of the japanese who push robotisation hard, after all.


[18-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/17/us/politics/nevada-bloomberg-sanders-biden-trump.html

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Bloomberg Campaign Opens First Attack on a Democratic Rival: Bernie...
Michael R. Bloomberg’s campaign mounted a direct offensive against a Democratic opponent for the first time, as Bernie Sanders shot back by accusing the billionaire of trying to buy the presidency.
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[18-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
> “It’s a shameful turn of events to see Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump deploy the very same attacks and tactics against Mike, but the reason is clear,” said Kevin Sheekey, Mr. Bloomberg’s campaign manager. “At this point, the primary is Bernie’s to lose, and ours to win. Bernie knows this. Trump knows this. That’s why they are united in the campaign against Mike.”


[18-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently people are now trying to tie bernie and trump together by saying that they're both attacking bloomberg


[18-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it has a chance to work.


[18-Feb-20 04:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
In the Bloomberg bubble maybe.


[18-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
> Mr. Sanders’s Twitter account directly responded to the Bloomberg campaign statement, posting a photograph of Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Trump at a golf outing in 2007.


[18-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
the only logical response to such an obvious smear is to post actual evidence that bloomberg and trump were known to interact with each other


[18-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this was good.


[18-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
nice


[18-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Watch them try to use this


[18-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/clVsLNJIahs

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Whit Emory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clVsLNJIahs
Any female born after 1993 by Bernie Sanders
Thank you Bernie, very cool!
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[18-Feb-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just keep tweeting it at Trump and his family, I'm sure one of them will retweet it at some point


[18-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is what Warren heard in 2018


[18-Feb-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking would it be possibel to mass report that video to take it down like on tumblr


[18-Feb-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a deepfake


[18-Feb-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
so no mass report i guess? rip then


[18-Feb-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
time to deepfake bloomburg then


[18-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
heh, I don't think you need to


[18-Feb-20 05:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://politics.theonion.com/mike-bloomberg-i-apologize-for-the-damages-my-past-po-1841669163

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Mike Bloomberg: ‘I Apologize For The Damages My Past Policies Have ...
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[18-Feb-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
> also on topic of 'oh god why', elderly and disabled folk come to mind. That's the primary focus of the japanese who push robotisation hard, after all.
@Opponent 

Actually a lot of elderly Japanese are pretty anti-automation. And since they are the ones that run the economy, so it shall be until they die. Part of the reasons the Japanese economy is so comparatively backwards for it's scale is the refusal by the Boomer establishment to progress beyond the sixties because that's how they did it and they managed to win such power during the eighties bubble economy where they roped all the white collar workers at least into signing away their lives. What is automated and high-tech is so out of neccesity because the boomers basically took away breeding.

On the inverse Egypt is ironically going full automation after having been an under-developed economy in the 00's without even the ability to count anything in the country. Now it's to the point that it whimsically counts everything even animal husbandry reports and is continually automating systems again and again. So much so many sectors of the economy just pay people to exist because what else are they gonna do? Heard it told to me by an Egyptian that meter reading for electrical power is done wirelessly and they just send them the bill, the people that did are retainer just to forestall an unemployment spike so they sit around in the office doing the few tasks they can do, and since people basically only work four hours a day and jobs are tasked based and not hourly, they ain't even in the office for long


[18-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
oh wonderful. Japanese boomers.


[18-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean I knew the social aspects were fucked, but it's crying shame it extends to other spheres of society too.


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
also, Egypt... Huh. It's kinda nice someone else got to be the guinea pig of mass automation instead of US.


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
an opportunity to learn from mistakes of someone else.


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Japanese boomers be like, "we expect you to come to work at six because that's what we did besides it's good to wake up at four in the morning makes you love long time. We are still going to spend four hours organizing papers too."


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] jlun2#8758
dont japan has high suicide rates


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds amazing.


[18-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
three guesses as to why...


[18-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Opponent#3498
the fact that there exists a socially acceptable way to go speaks for itself.


[18-Feb-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent They got basic income for unemployed so even their seven percent unemployment as no effect on anything.


[18-Feb-20 05:58 AM] jlun2#8758
sure is taking forever for boomer society to collapse


[18-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 it's mostly concentrated among white collar workers who are again the sort that sold their souls in the eighties so to speak. Evidently, not a major problem among the blue collars people. It can happen as it can happen anywhere of course, but white collar professions in Japan are a special type of sold out


[18-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though if you think Japan is bad


[18-Feb-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Have you met Korea?


[18-Feb-20 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
no, but I read its super competitive there and stressful


[18-Feb-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And if you think Korea is bad. Let me introduce you to  M E X I C O


[18-Feb-20 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-southkorea-psycho/in-south-korea-daily-stresses-outweigh-north-korea-missile-worries-idUSKCN1BW34E

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In South Korea, daily stresses outweigh North Korea missile worries
Soon after North Korea tested its sixth and largest nuclear bomb earlier this mo...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20170921&t=2&i=1202403655&w=1200&r=LYNXNPED8K29J


[18-Feb-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though Mexico is more of a "work or die" kind of economy than Korea


[18-Feb-20 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
like daily budget stress is more scary than nukes


[18-Feb-20 06:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds familiar


[18-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I've read a bit about K-pop. If that industry is indicative of the whole in Korea, oh boy.


[18-Feb-20 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time

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Working time
Working time is the period of time that a person spends at paid labor. Unpaid labor such as personal housework or caring for children or pets is not considered part of the working week.
Many countries regulate the work week by law, such as stipulating minimum daily rest period...


[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
South Korea be like, "imagine a country that has been under US enforced right-wing dictatorship for most of its existence and had an aggressive boom of economic development in the eighties and nineties and because of the right wing dictatorship there never was any labor rights advocated for."


[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/J8LxORztUWY

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Cuck Philosophy
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The Late Capitalism of K-Pop
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Taking a look at the history and development of South Korean pop music and the highly exploitative system that underpins it.

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[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Relevant


[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, it's midnight. I am going to sleep now


[18-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
o/ have a good one.


[18-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXyUiDuo_eY

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[18-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
"assaults"


[18-Feb-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
did they leave out the context of "verbal assaults"?


[18-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/02/antifa-response-to-rumor-of-kkk-rally-turns-into-dance-party-police-arrest-2-after-pepper-spray-used.html

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Antifa response to rumored KKK rally turns into ‘dance party’; poli...
Portland police reported that some of the anti-fascist activists used pepper spray on others at the park and, when the police arrived, threw “objects” at the officers.
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[18-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
literally the first article in the video


[18-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
says 3 people were arrested


[18-Feb-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483406-bloomberg-set-to-debate-in-nevada-after-qualifying-in-new-poll

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Bloomberg set to debate in Nevada after qualifying in new poll
Democratic presidential contender Michael Bloomberg is set to join the Democratic presidential primary debate on Wednesday after he qualified for the forum with the release of a
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-bloomberg_013020getty.jpg


[18-Feb-20 12:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now watch him not show up and just launch a new round of ads that night


[18-Feb-20 02:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483417-trump-suggests-he-may-sue-over-mueller-investigation

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Trump suggests he may sue over Mueller investigation
President Trump on Tuesday suggested he may file lawsuits over the outcome of former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, suggesting its findings are "badly tainted."
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[18-Feb-20 02:55 PM] illumnious#7938
*"Everything having to do with this fraudulent investigation is badly tainted and, in my opinion, should be thrown out," Trump tweeted.*


[18-Feb-20 02:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck off


[18-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/oAsfKaD.png

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they don't think it be like it is but it do
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[18-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/the-epa-is-about-to-change-a-rule-cutting-mercury-pollution-the-industry-doesnt-want-it/2020/02/16/8ebac4e2-4470-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html


[18-Feb-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[18-Feb-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Feb-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Feb-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin/status/1229547561138126849?s=19

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https://twitter.com/AlexandraErin/status/1229547561138126849?s=19
I swear there are Bernie Sanders supporters on here who won't know what to do if he wins the primary because for them the appeal is being angry if he doesn't. They're expecting to be smug and mad forever. Their dream is another term for Trump and a lifetime of "I warned you!!...
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[18-Feb-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do we have previews disabled?


[18-Feb-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
discord 🅱roke


[18-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
they try so desperately.


[18-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
#withher


[18-Feb-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
#whitey


[18-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
```The Obama administration initially projected that the industry would spend between $7.4 billion and $9.6 billion each year to comply with the regulation, while society as a whole would save between $37 billion to $90 billion from the prevention of thousands of premature deaths and lost work days. Those estimates included not just lower mercury emissions but collateral benefits from reductions in soot and other smog-forming pollutants that contribute to asthma and other respiratory problems.

The power industry ultimately paid far less to comply. It spent about $18 billion between 2012 and 2018, or $3 billion annually.

The Trump administration has argued that it is inappropriate to count such "co-benefits" when considering the economic impact of regulation, saying Obama used creative math to justify burdensome new requirements.

"When you do a cost-benefit analysis, you should address the pollutant that's the subject of the regulation," EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said in a recent interview, adding that "98, 99 percent of the benefits were not for mercury."```


[18-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
So industry paid like a third what it was projected to, and the Trump administration argument is that if there are other benefits than the main one, they don't count.


[18-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, if you say "no more burning tires" and as a byproduct, this means people's houses don't catch fire all the time, you're not allowed to count that.


[18-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the most ass-bakkwards thing they've come up with yet.


[18-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It flies in the face of all basic reason.


[18-Feb-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically what they're suggesting here is that they could say that a rule to lower carbon emissions couldn't consider like, lowered sulfur emissions because the two are paired together, and so it would be incredibly hard to justify any new rules because your cost-benefit analysis couldn't consider most societal effects from a new rule, just the arbitrary, narrow scope of specifically the target.


[18-Feb-20 07:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie does he just hate the environment because liberals like it?


[18-Feb-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, also because it costs businesses money to protect it.


[18-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And protecting it only benefits poor/blakk people.


[18-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
By not protecting it, businesses make higher profits, and lower classes get screwed over more.


[18-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Double win for Trump.


[18-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The environment is a massive "I win" button for conservatives.


[18-Feb-20 07:10 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume they just breathe in smog then


[18-Feb-20 07:10 PM] jlun2#8758
or live in some shelter


[18-Feb-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives? Penthouses, well above the smog.


[18-Feb-20 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also Trump believes that his penthouses don't share air with the rest of the world.


[18-Feb-20 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he thinks they're completely sealed off and that opening doors doesn't transfer air I guess.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in his mind, burning mercury and lead just sort of leaves a splotch somewhere where poor people liv.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] jlun2#8758
Boomers are retarded then


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was the dumbest student in his class.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But his dad had money.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a large part of how hereditary wealth works.


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] jlun2#8758
I feel like it's possible to get rich targeting boomers with dubious legal activities


[18-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get not just more opportunities to shine, you also get people paid off.


[18-Feb-20 07:13 PM] jlun2#8758
but I'm not good at sales


[18-Feb-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
"The problem with pissing on my grave is that eventually you run out of piss" - Margaret Thatcher


[18-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
that's why you do some community organizing, that way you can have an endless stream of piss


[18-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Thatcher's grave is an important public restroom area


[18-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/18/politics/donald-trump-rod-blagojevich-commutation-sentence/index.html


[18-Feb-20 08:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
tag urself

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[18-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/latino/482665-lawmakers-raise-concerns-over-russias-growing-influence-in-venezuela

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Lawmakers raise concerns over Russia's growing influence in Venezuela
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill are raising concerns over Russia's expanding influence in Venezuela and voicing renewed support for Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó, who just last week attended President Trump's State of the Union addr
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[18-Feb-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483476-trump-commutes-sentence-of-ex-illinois-gov-blagojevich

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Trump commutes sentence of ex-Illinois Gov. Blagojevich
President Trump on Tuesday said he had granted clemency to Rod Blagojevich (D), the disgraced Illinois governor who had served roughly half of a 14-year sentence on federal corruption charges.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/rodblagojevich_12072011.jpg


[18-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Quid pro quoers gotta stick together


[18-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/02/12/pitt-receives-cdc-approval-to-bring-coronavirus-to.html


[18-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM2VBhpU0AIQdFr.jpg:orig

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[18-Feb-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
I see that as some boomer dancing and high fiving themselves thinking their very smart at the 4th panel


[18-Feb-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
oh and doing nazi salutes because for some reason they're all white nationalists now wtf


[18-Feb-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
oh no that's my university


[18-Feb-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
F


[18-Feb-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
the bernie supporters, or the white nationalist boomers who hate bernie?


[18-Feb-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
sanders back to having better odds of winning than no one https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

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Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?
FiveThirtyEight's polls and forecast for the 2020 Democratic presidential primary election.
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[18-Feb-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 nCoV


[18-Feb-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
?

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[18-Feb-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
read above


[18-Feb-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
oh 
> Pitt receives CDC approval to bring coronavirus to Pittsburgh to help develop a vaccine
Sorry, missed it because it wasnt expanded


[18-Feb-20 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/coronavirus-latest-updates-china-hubei.html

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China confirms 15,152 new coronavirus cases, 254 additional deaths
Earlier, Hubei province said it is starting to include "clinically diagnosed" cases in its figures and that 13,332 of the new cases fall under that classification.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106389042-1581595910281abc.jpg?v=1581595982


[18-Feb-20 09:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/world/ancient-giant-turtle-shell-scn/index.html


[18-Feb-20 09:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/world/ancient-giant-turtle-shell-scn/index.html


[18-Feb-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not politics, but cool


[18-Feb-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-declares-himself-chief-law-enforcement-officer-barr-doj-2020-2


[18-Feb-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-bloombergs-candidacy-may-be-a-gift-to-bernie-sanders-2020-2


[18-Feb-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/bloomberg-plan-wall-street-crackdown-compared-to-bernie-sanders-aoc-2020-2-1028915238


[18-Feb-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judges-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-doj-trump-interference-2020-2


[18-Feb-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
what's wrong with discord today


[18-Feb-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i knew


[18-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
embed service probably has a broken queue, maybe got spammed shitless dunno


[18-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd think embeds could be done client side


[18-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess that could lead to odd results thanks to geo IP and IP blocks on random sites


[18-Feb-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-us-isolated-europe-rejects-america-first-policy-munich-conference-2020-2

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The US was left alone and humiliated on the world stage as European...
The Munich Security Conference was themed around the idea of the Western alliance fading, and European allies openly criticized the US's approach.
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[18-Feb-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/aTZ-CpINiqg

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George Carlin Whining Baby Boomers
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[18-Feb-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Feb-20 10:36 PM] jlun2#8758
Boomer: EAT YOUR GIG ECONOMY


[18-Feb-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the previews are returning


[18-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-north-carolina/north-carolina-court-blocks-voter-id-law-as-discriminatory-idUSKBN20C2DC

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North Carolina court blocks voter ID law as discriminatory
A North Carolina appeals court on Tuesday blocked the state's voter identif...
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[18-Feb-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
or not


[18-Feb-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has bloomberg actually confirmed he'll be at the next debate? because everyone is acting like he has


[18-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not afaik


[18-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/d65e98062be130ceeb73a2581cc21d3f

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Boy Scouts seek bankruptcy, urge victims to step forward
The Boy Scouts of America urged victims to come forward Tuesday as the historic, 110-year-old organization filed for bankruptcy protection in the first step toward creating a huge compensation...
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[18-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Owned


[18-Feb-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Can they do the vatican next?


[18-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg will be at the debate tomorrow yes


[18-Feb-20 10:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Laaad


[18-Feb-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Soros says thing? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-soros-mark-zuckerberg-trump-facebook-us-election-2020-a9341981.html


[18-Feb-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-19-point-lead-nevada-caucus-frontrunner-new-poll-1487757

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https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-19-point-lead-nevada-caucus-frontrunner-new-poll-1487757
Bernie Sanders has 19-point lead in Nevada days before Democratic c...
A progressive polling firm found the Vermont senator had a huge lead among Hispanic likely caucus-goers in the state.
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[18-Feb-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Seems like Nevada is a wrap for Sanders


[18-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
```And protecting it only benefits poor/blakk people.```


[18-Feb-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
why would it? This time you're really reaching. No, the core point is to reverse Obama policies, and, yes, they hate environmental protection because liberals like it.


[18-Feb-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
they're willing to destroy themselves if others are going along for the ride.


[18-Feb-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not rational at this point. It never was post-2016


[18-Feb-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
truly a tragic year.


[18-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
```Lawmakers raise concerns over Russia's growing influence in Venezuela```


[18-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
they want the sweet sweet cheap oil too.


[18-Feb-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders projected to win every remaining primary except Alabama (Biden) and Minnesota (Klobuchar :wat:)


[18-Feb-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not that inconceivable he could win Alabama, Biden has been dropping like a rock in the polls


[18-Feb-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Minnesota is weird


[18-Feb-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
still possible Sanders can win there too, he's about 2 percentage points behind in polling


[18-Feb-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Here's hoping for that Super Tuesday rout


[18-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent do you know what zoning laws are?


[18-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or like, how people choose where to liv, period?


[18-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. That I remember.


[18-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very common US/UK tactic:


[18-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
thing is, pollution usually covers the region, not like a part of a city or smth


[18-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Find where poor people liv (usually where property values are low, relatively near low skill labor jobs, in cities)


[18-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
2. Rezone for big projects.


[18-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
3. If any resistance, force them out with the power of the gov't.


[18-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
4. Create nearby housing for them to rent in.


[18-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
5. If they're blakk, zone anything nearby as industrial.


[18-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pollution does not diffuse readily, especially if it's in soil or water.


[19-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most industrial pollution is much denser than air.


[19-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will tend to stikk by near where it's let out, which just so happens to be where the blakk and poor people liv.


[19-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because those industrial factories are low-skill labor, you've rezoned the area for them near where the blakk people liv, and all the people who could afford to move did.


[19-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will almost never be exposed to anything but trace amounts of the pollution he is causing as extra by removing regulations.


[19-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plenty of poor people will be.


[19-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there is a form of pollution, like smog, that affects an entire region, one of two things happens in the US:


[19-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
1. All the rich people relocate.
2. They instead reduce the pollution.


[19-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deep in coal country, you tend to see the former, there weren't enuff rich people to want to fix the issue.


[19-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In various big cities instead, you'll see various programs to reduce the smog.


[19-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will not see similar programs at a city level to deal with like, mine waste.


[19-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In small towns near mines, the mining company basically owns the town and anyone with money flees.


[19-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the EPA and its regulations being at a federal level is to be able to go in with money collected nationwide and deal with shit in Bumfukk, Alabama.


[19-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
I assume water supply contamination is also dealt with this way?


[19-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, you know about Flint, Michigan, right?


[19-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and there are plenty of towns with the same issue Flint had)


[19-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people hav filters or bottled water or even private wells.


[19-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people hav city water, unfiltered, that they make koolaid with.


[19-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people hav brand new copper or PVC piping.


[19-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people hav lead pipes older than their grandpa.


[19-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when the city water is slightly acidic, lead from the pipes gets into the water and thus their koolaid.


[19-Feb-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
new plumbing is PEX


[19-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what happened in Flint.


[19-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, even with smog, poor people routinely hav to drive to work, with commute times sometimes in the multiple hours.


[19-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, the US has bad public transportation in general, but especially anywhere poor outside the big cities.


[19-Feb-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're talking about new mains it's galvanized steel or pex


[19-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places will often zone commercial one area, residential another, without any option to ever rezone for the land owner.


[19-Feb-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
home construction is always pex


[19-Feb-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to long, bottlenekked commutes.


[19-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people are often the only ones able to afford to liv near where they work.


[19-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they deliberately keep it that way.


[19-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they end up with poor people renting from them cheaply near where all the rich stuff is, they will do things like create fake construction work to drive them out.


[19-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, in the US, you can choose the devaluation methods for real estate you own.


[19-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means you can quite easily claim depreciation amounts to the point where *all* of your tax liability goes away on things that are worth several million dollars each.


[19-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buildings are basically very easy tax shelters.


[19-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's where the rich tend to put a lot of their more obvious money.


[19-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means they're able to control things like fake construction projects.


[19-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason landlords and real estate moguls are often the first stated targets when it comes to anti-rich sentiment.


[19-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Housing is people's primary expense, and real estate in general is where the bulk of the wealth is stored, and those are the primary tools by which the rich fukk over the poor.


[19-Feb-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hollywood executives for instance might be rich fukks detached from the world, but they aren't the ones going around making sure Penny Sue can't afford to not expose her 2 sons to heavy metal pollution.


[19-Feb-20 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
the house my parents live in was $40000 just 30 years ago


[19-Feb-20 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it's now appraised at $350000


[19-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inflation over that time period is about 2x btw


[19-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's like 5x its original value after adjustment.


[19-Feb-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
with the way things are currently going, I will _never_ be able to buy it


[19-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same for my parents'


[19-Feb-20 12:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wont be able to buy a hosue at all if i can never find a job


[19-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They bought it at what would be a year's salary


[19-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now it's over half a mil euros


[19-Feb-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad also keeps harping on the fact that i have nothing invested in social secutiry... what the fuck am i going to invest in social security? mcdonalds coupons?


[19-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It is very awkward to talk to them about my future living prospects


[19-Feb-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have a job with which to set aside soem money into social security


[19-Feb-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Housing prices never left the bubble


[19-Feb-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
The economy crashed but house prices didn't


[19-Feb-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
They're still out of control because rich fucks won't let go of them... and will end up making money no matter what


[19-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
'course not, real estate defaulted to banks, and why the fuck would they lower prices?


[19-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People still need somewhere to live in, demand will never go away


[19-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the state needs to redistribute real estate.


[19-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Far more than any other kind of wealth.


[19-Feb-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Black people need houses the most


[19-Feb-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
they have been perpetually denied homes as part of structural racism since... forever basically


[19-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry, Pete will come along and build a house every day, on land a blakk person used to own.


[19-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Surely this will solve the problem.


[19-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
"Fail"


[19-Feb-20 12:54 AM] illumnious#7938
well shit https://www.businessinsider.com/china-virus-everything-we-know-deadly-2019-ncov-wuhan-spread-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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[19-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
I call this a win


[19-Feb-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
well shit https://www.businessinsider.com/china-virus-everything-we-know-deadly-2019-ncov-wuhan-spread-2020-1?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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[19-Feb-20 01:00 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51481260

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[19-Feb-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
oops sorry


[19-Feb-20 01:11 AM] illumnious#7938
jojo in a nutshell


[19-Feb-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
I deleted the dupes ty


[19-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
'official' death toll


[19-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
knowing China, that 20k deaths 'leak' is  closer to the truth than their official stats


[19-Feb-20 01:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-51544141/cummings-leaves-for-work-after-andrew-sabisky-row

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Cummings goes to work after adviser row
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[19-Feb-20 01:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
why is it that they seem to lie about everything but a simple lie such as saying they don't agree with this guys views is impossible?


[19-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
cause it means stating your opinions.


[19-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
a big no-no.


[19-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because their base would flip out


[19-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
else you have a chance that when you flip them in 2 years some people will remember


[19-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/483561-iowa-man-accused-of-holding-woman-captive-forcing-her-to-watch#

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An Iowa man has been charged with harassment and false imprisonment after allegedly holding a woman captive and forcing her to watch the 1970s TV miniseries "Roots."
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[19-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
allegedly?


[19-Feb-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
What does "American" bring to mind


[19-Feb-20 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The middle east?


[19-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
middle east and baseball, yeah.


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[19-Feb-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
boo-hoo


[19-Feb-20 03:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] obesity


[19-Feb-20 03:04 AM] jlun2#8758
fat, busy and broke mostly


[19-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[19-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
They could already do that btw


[19-Feb-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
If you call your nurse a nignog he doesn't have to work with you


[19-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
So this is just the usual fake bullshit outrage


[19-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Thanks Tim


[19-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Also this is referring to racism & sexism _towards care providers_, @Sunnyside


[19-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
seems like you missed the memo


[19-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Won't somone think of the patients that actively harass the people that are tending to them?


[19-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's a fine line between refusing to service someone who is activtly being combative or hostile to them and refusing to treat them because they might've said x or y.
I feel care and treatment should go above personal feelings.


[19-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
care providers have in general always been able to choose not to treat an individual, given that another care provider is able to


[19-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
but that's not the rule


[19-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
the rule is not "this person thinks muslims should be genocided, so his GP isn't going to see him"


[19-Feb-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
the rule is "this person is calling the doctor who will be operating on him a bitch for rejecting his advances so she doesn't want to deal with him"


[19-Feb-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
like I said, you missed the fucking point


[19-Feb-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
congrats on being deliberately dense


[19-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nothing I said was trying to refute what you were saying.


[19-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
try not to be so hostile


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
"there's a fine line between refusing to service someone who is activtly being combative or hostile to them and refusing to treat them because they might've said x or y."


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the former.


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the fukking former.


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop being a retard.


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It literally is individual care providers being harassed by patients being able to say "no I won't treat you, someone else can do it"


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I'm not disagreeing with you


[19-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then wtf are you saying?


[19-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you talking about a fine line between the very thing that's happening and something that ISN'T happening?


[19-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm just saying there's a fine line with this rule. I'm just hopping it doesn't get warped or misinterpreted in the future down the line


[19-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see


[19-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the usual speculative bullshit


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
did someone rain on your parade today nebbie?


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you seem upset


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
People could POSSIBLY MAYBE try and SOMEHOW twist things into what you are afraid of


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
this is the UK. it would not surprise me


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing here that upsets me is you spreading misinformation with your weaseling.


[19-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NHS is not denying care to anyone over their political views.


[19-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing such is not within their rules of operation.


[19-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Individual doctors and nurses saying "this patient is hostile to me verbally, I will not treat him" is a REASONABLE THING every healthcare system should fukking hav


[19-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
DO NOT conflate it with denying care.


[19-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
MEANWHILE in the US, actual care is being denied because lifesaving procedures are considered "experimental" after years of successful use.


[19-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
THAT is something to be outraged about.


[19-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not this fake bullshit Tim is talking about.


[19-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Experimental and costs a million dollars


[19-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's one thing I am very not okay with, btw


[19-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives directing outrage to something hypothetical that would target them, while actual real things are hurting the poor.


[19-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like fukking nobles in the middle ages saying that the shady gatekeeper COULD let in wolves to the courtyard to eat them because he's given absolute control over when the gate opens, meanwhile in the village outside, wolves are actually eating people's kids because the king ordered the village to not build fences.


[19-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what the heck are you even going on about nebbie


[19-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your bullshit.


[19-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The stuff you just shat all over here.


[19-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am tired of it.


[19-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You posted a video with a title saying the NHS will deny care to people over their views.


[19-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is outrage over something not actually happening.


[19-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
all i did was share a video and express some mild concern.


[19-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk off.


[19-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
don't shoot me because you disagree.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
don't concern troll us


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Continue and you will be muted.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk it


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
no more Tim videos, period.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not trolling


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who posts one, it gets deleted, they get kikked.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie that's not really fair.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah it is


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every single Tim video so far has been misinformation.


[19-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
isn't this a open channel for discussion?


[19-Feb-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Timcast is not discussion


[19-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not a channel for spreading misinformation.


[19-Feb-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
It is pure misinformation


[19-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you post something, you should be reasonably sure the source is reliable and it's real.


[19-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there's any doubts, or anything you know isn't real, you SAY SO.


[19-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, it has become clear that most of Tim's content is fake headlines.


[19-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if you want to post Tim


[19-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
you better actually chekk on what he's saying.


[19-Feb-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
this rule also applies to sargon, thoughty2, black pigeon speaks


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
not dealing with their horseshit


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, I try to always point out on onion articles.


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that they are actually satire.


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(thankfully "the onion" is enuff as most people know of the site's existence)


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
all he's doing is reading published news articles, recording the article himself, and then expressing his own opinions on the matter. if the news is fake then it's the article itself that's at fault. otherwise you are considering his opinion as being misinformation as opposed to being his opinion.


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The articles are not at fault, he is.


[19-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He creates fake headlines.


[19-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
By misreading the articles in a deliberate manner.


[19-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Altho I think I remember one case where the article itself was fake, itself being a misinterpretation of another article


[19-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
that was in regards to Overwatch banning


[19-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, a guy got banned for toxicity for refusing to switch heros when he couldn't be his favorite


[19-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
he happened to be conservative, complained that he was a conservative banned for toxicity


[19-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
so then after the first article, a second one came along cribbing from the first saying Overwatch was banning people for being conservatives


[19-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
then IIRC Tim made a video about it, tho it might've been some other YTer.


[19-Feb-20 04:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/1dw2ed9Ft-c

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[19-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not finding it from a quikk search, must not've been Tim.


[19-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As to another case I'm sure was Tim, there was the whole thing about illegal immigrants and city elections


[19-Feb-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Going to also generally put Thunderf00t off limits


[19-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
Thunderf00t made the wise choice and now only makes videos about sciencey stuff and kickstarter grifts


[19-Feb-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Except his vids are still reactionary crap


[19-Feb-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard of teal deer in awhile


[19-Feb-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
eg https://youtu.be/gqht2bIQXIY

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[19-Feb-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man teal dear


[19-Feb-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was also some guy with an alien logo i forgot his name


[19-Feb-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he used the lightning background for everything


[19-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
all I know is that Pokemon Sword and Sheild inadvertantly dunked on all of those guys


[19-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656

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[19-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well anyway I can't prove a negative on it being misinformation. if you haven't noticed even the main stream news has been getting it wrong on a regular basis.  So if you expect me to going out of my way to vet every single thing I share I can't do that. I use my own judgement on gauging the stuff but at the end of the day i'm simply just sharing what i think is interesting to have discussed.


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
nice false equivalence


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i watched a few of these guys back when tumblr SJUW were a major thing and then grew out of them when that phenomenon ended because all they did was spout bullshit


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your judgment is fukking awful then.


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the vid about NYC fining people for calling someone "illegal alien"?


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
NYC wasn't doing that.


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and blatantly wrong statement about "prove a negative" (tim's videos contain _an overwhelming amount of factually incorrect detail_)


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
you can verify this


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was actually enforcing anti-discrimination law against landlords.


[19-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Honahue#0656
the brits like the NHS, they included it in the opening ceremonies of the Olympics


[19-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm having trouble finding the post of the timcast vid about DEMS LETTIN' ILLEGALZ VOTE btw


[19-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
what they don't like about the NHS is it having funding cut from it


[19-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
is Timcast Tim Pool?


[19-Feb-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[19-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah he's dumb


[19-Feb-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is super dumb and he ruined an entire political forum i used to hang out in because conservatives came in and flooded his videos


[19-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
which forum?


[19-Feb-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
unrelated: sanders' chance of winning the primary uncontested has shot up substantially https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/


[19-Feb-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
chance of getting a plurality is nearing 60%


[19-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aha


[19-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Democrats Vote To DEFEND Non-Citizen Voting In Local Elections"


[19-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was on his other channel.


[19-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to be clear


[19-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem here isn't that this title is a lie


[19-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that its connotations are.


[19-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats voted against an **unconstitutional amendment** to a law


[19-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the title leaves out that part to make you think that this is a bad thing to do.


[19-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it also leaves out that like, this was in the FEDERAL level


[19-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The constitutionality thing is that the FEDERAL gov't cannot tell STATE gov't whether non-citizens can vote in city elections, **PERIOD**.


[19-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can hav a say on discrimination among citizens, sure, but not that.


[19-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would take a constitutional amendment to allow Congress to decide in bills whether states can let non-citizens vote in city elections.


[19-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just tried to fukking put it on as a rider of a bill that states couldn't let non-citizens vote in city elections.


[19-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Tim was generating all this outrage at people following the fukking constitution.


[19-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you know other newspapers and youtube channels have dramatic headlines for their videos or papers. it's not great but they do they because they know it get's people's attention. that's why i try to look at the content of the vid and not the headline alone.


[19-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because how DARE liberals actually FOLLOW the *law of the land*.


[19-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk off.


[19-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop spreading misinformation and yellow journalism.


[19-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you REALLY care about journalistic integrity, you will never post a Tim video again.


[19-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the guy has REPEATEDLY shown he is a yellow journalist who exaggerates or outright lies to get people's attention, then makes them angry with fake outrage.


[19-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I maintain that if you see that behavior from a news source


[19-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you keep posting it


[19-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means you WANT misinformation and such.


[19-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Tim's gotten awards as a journalist and has made videos about the importance of integrity in the past...


[19-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
What awards has he gotten? From who?


[19-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And making videos about the importance of things he CLEARLY DEFIES doesn't exonerate him.


[19-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav here THREE examples of him either outright lying in titles or lying with connotations.


[19-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's been what? 30 videos total from him posted?


[19-Feb-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
He got a Shorty Award for journalism of social media while he was employed by Vice


[19-Feb-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
That's all I can find


[19-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Pool was nominated as a Time 100 personality in March 2012.


[19-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being part of TIME doesn't say shit


[19-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was man of the year, wasn't he?


[19-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They go by influence, not honesty.


[19-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
so was m00t from 4chan and he works at Google now too


[19-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
A good journalist is HONEST before all else.


[19-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Journalism isn't supposed to be a fukking path to stardom.


[19-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it would make sense in a twisted way, you know


[19-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
to say that just because someone's famous or influential, they're the ideal journalist


[19-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
nothing more than a way to get the masses to rally behind an idea, whether it be true or not, and all get in line


[19-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, if your true desired goal was fascist control, then things like honesty, integrity, they really just mean "to the party"


[19-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
An ability to crush facts that contradict being seen as much, much superior to actually accepting them in and changing things.


[19-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen conservatives think that ex-felons shouldn't vote


[19-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get it, they paid their debt, what is the issue?


[19-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like saying someone who was bankrupt once never should be able to own anything ever again.


[19-Feb-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the issue is ex felons might not vote for them after being in the system they created


[19-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[19-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
many conservatives would say yes to that, Its.


[19-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they're Calivinist.


[19-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe that you either sink or swim because of your attitudes.


[19-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of second chances or reform or any of that is foreign to this viewset.


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they're just mad that we don't execute all felons.


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't about reform at all


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they'd like something like a soft execution.


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can be an unrepentant ex-felon who insists on their innocence


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just throw someone out into the wilderness


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
no services, no participation in society, no rights


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Once you pay your time it's done, you get your rights back


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get it


[19-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
to conservatives, giving people rights bakk is like giving them a second chance


[19-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
penetentery comes from the root penence and the early versions were basically monks cells for prisoners to be along for their sentence without human contact


[19-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I get what conservatives want, I'm just saying my opinion


[19-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't believe people can get better or that we should ever giv anything bakk to people.


[19-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, it's not a debt to society at all


[19-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
To a conservative, a felon should just be incinerated as garbage.


[19-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In private prisons, I assume.


[19-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This idea of actual numbers of years to serve in a prison is like, foreign to the whole conservative mindset.


[19-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's seen as an unfortunate requirement of the system.


[19-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
An alternative ideal to execution would be life imprisonment for all crimes


[19-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the "garbage" could be made "useful" making license plates and generating money for businesses.


[19-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I've heard that call centers have actually started getting prison labor


[19-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really weird intersection of racism/xenophobia and support of the prison system


[19-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not weird at all.


[19-Feb-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just a bunch of Southerners and Midwesterners complaining about Indians responding to call center stuff


[19-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why not replace them with slav-er, American prisoners?"


[19-Feb-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Feb-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
This but unironically


[19-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
I assume this is from a conservative trying to denigrate bernie


[19-Feb-20 06:56 AM] Midknight#9798
too bad it's just so hamfisted and over the top that it makes a hamfisted, over the top guy seem kind of badass


[19-Feb-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow yes


[19-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
⚒️


[19-Feb-20 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/blagojevich-thanks-president-setting-him-free-i-m-trump-ocrat-n1138401

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'I'm a Trump-ocrat': Blagojevich thanks president for setting him free
After his release from prison, Blagojevich, who was a Democrat, said that he's "profoundly grateful" to President Donald Trump.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_08/3235096/200218-rod-blagojevich-wmaq-ac-1040p_153838edff83330b404ba0473a29bbf4.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[19-Feb-20 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The corrupt gotta stick together


[19-Feb-20 10:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Trumpocrat"


[19-Feb-20 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "He's got obviously a big fan in me," said Blagojevich, who has gone totally gray since entering prison. "And if you’re asking me what my party affiliation is, I’m a Trump-ocrat."


[19-Feb-20 10:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outcry-seattle-teachers-were-fired-being-gay-catholic-school-says-n1137546

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Seattle-area teachers reported fired for being gay; Catholic school...
A County Council member claims the two teachers were forced out of their positions at Kennedy Catholic High School "solely because they are gay."
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_07/3232591/200216-kennedy-catholic-high-school-cs-1247p_3753683d723e784d3425c29636802913.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[19-Feb-20 11:17 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Free money


[19-Feb-20 11:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or is it legal to fine someone in Seattle for being gay


[19-Feb-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/rush-limbaugh-trump-told-me-not-apologize-homophobic-attacks-pete-buttigieg

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Rush Limbaugh: Trump told me not to apologize for homophobic attack...
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/D8Audio/2020/01/27/rush-limbaugh-audio-image-02_copy.jpg


[19-Feb-20 12:59 PM] jlun2#8758
I just want to take bible verses that mentions the lord and replace it with "Trump" now.


[19-Feb-20 01:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzWqGAUFeI

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[19-Feb-20 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
I, uh... https://i.redd.it/1dflc0jinqh41.jpg

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[19-Feb-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders beating expectations again

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[19-Feb-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
he should be on lock for saturday in nevada


[19-Feb-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
the question is, by how much


[19-Feb-20 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
it's a caucus though


[19-Feb-20 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
what if they fuck with the results again


[19-Feb-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders has a 19 percentage point polling lead in Nevada


[19-Feb-20 03:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dataforprogress.org/memos/sanders-has-strong-lead-in-nevada

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Memo: Sanders has Strong Lead in Nevada
Data for Progress conducted a poll of 766 likely Nevada caucusgoers from 2/12/2020 through 2/15/2020. Likely caucusgoers were identified from the Nevada voter file and weighted to a likely electorate. Our margin of error is +/- 3.4 percent.
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/5cd63b437817f7021af9185b/5e4b129c01c72f4e3e5fffba/1582051282434/sanders2.jpg?format=1500w


[19-Feb-20 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
more conservative regression-based analyses (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/nevada/) show that the margin is narrower, but only by a little: he holds a 12 percentage point lead over the next most likely, Biden


[19-Feb-20 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I find it unlikely it will be possible to tamper with the results to favor anyone else


[19-Feb-20 03:20 PM] byte[]#2610
not when Sanders is leading by that much


[19-Feb-20 03:52 PM] illumnious#7938

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[19-Feb-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
in the end, that's what aquittal was designed to show.


[19-Feb-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
so everything's according to plan.


[19-Feb-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm expecting him to call 2020 elections illegitimate, and say that, at the very least, he's owed a second term.


[19-Feb-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
(Emperor Trump comes later)


[19-Feb-20 04:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://cnn.it/2SHiY15

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Sanders spokeswoman distorts Bloomberg's heart issues and says heal...
Bernie Sanders' national press secretary on Wednesday distorted Michael Bloomberg's past heart issues and called questions about the Vermont senator's health and requests for additional records a "smear" campaign.
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[19-Feb-20 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
>cnn


[19-Feb-20 04:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump’s enemy


[19-Feb-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Feb-20 05:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives now are just monarchists.


[19-Feb-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/fb62962eaa840c5a38aa59e9c9918a16

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AP source: Barr tells people he might quit over Trump tweets
WASHINGTON (AP) — Attorney General William Barr has told people close to him he’s considering quitting his post after President Donald Trump wouldn’t heed his warning to stop tweeting about...
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[19-Feb-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Please quit


[19-Feb-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Please quit now


[19-Feb-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/MsrsPs2.jpg

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The future encroaches
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[19-Feb-20 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doubt Barr will quit after it's reported he's mulling it


[19-Feb-20 05:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least not unless Trump says some other dumb shit


[19-Feb-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what cabinet position blagojovich will be hired for by trump


[19-Feb-20 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483591-poll-sanders-now-leading-2020-democrats-by-15-points

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Poll: Sanders now leading 2020 Democrats by 15 points
Progressive Sen.
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[19-Feb-20 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
OUR REVOLUTION


[19-Feb-20 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
OUR PRESIDENT


[19-Feb-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1230164640283361286?s=21

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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1230164640283361286?s=21
This pastor says God is sparing the U.S. from coronavirus because of the Trump administration https://t.co/OsyNkv8Z1P
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Twitter


[19-Feb-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck


[19-Feb-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Two seconds of the fucking video and I start swearing like shit


[19-Feb-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938

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[19-Feb-20 05:58 PM] jlun2#8758
Do a majority of christian americans believe in that?


[19-Feb-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
evangelicals be like that


[19-Feb-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't imagine there's a lot of nuts that truly believe this, no.


[19-Feb-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
there are loud ones that get the spotlight, sure. But not the rank n file.


[19-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483642-poll-trump-edges-out-all-top-2020-democratic-candidates-except-sanders

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Poll: Trump edges out all top 2020 Democratic candidates except San...
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersberne_021120getty.jpg


[19-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All within margin of error.


[19-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But Biden


[19-Feb-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent rank and file actually believe trump is a christian savior


[19-Feb-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
wish I was making this up


[19-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
considering his history, I find it hard to believe, but I guess selective memory can go ways.


[19-Feb-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't consider his history


[19-Feb-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
they think everything bad people have said about him is made up


[19-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The worst part of these polls is most don't clarify whether they specifically check for the answers from registered voters


[19-Feb-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
he never went to a party with jeffrey epstein and he definitely never raped a 14 year old


[19-Feb-20 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You always see the GOP get a boost when that's factored in


[19-Feb-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
that discrimination against black people he got sued over? it [1. wasn't actually because they were black 2. they deserved it] [pick one]


[19-Feb-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
etc.


[19-Feb-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
forget Epstein and 14 y.o (that one is too meme to be reliable anyway). Everything else he did, like 3 wives, plus children on the side, as a start. Things that _are_ verifiable and clearly visible.


[19-Feb-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah they literally don't care


[19-Feb-20 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
not even nose holding, they just think he "made honest mistakes" or whatever


[19-Feb-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, one of Christianity's core tenets is that you can say some magic words to a priest and then your past doesn't count.


[19-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is great as a tool to not make felons be imprisoned for life etc., to actually let go and fix shit, but...


[19-Feb-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
it more often is abused by the powerful to make people ignore what horrible people they are, rather than really reform.


[19-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is Christianity has no means of testing whether someone truly is no longer a rapist or not, so in practice, the powerful make it so they can easily be said to be born-again or whatever, while the powerless hav little they can do but hope a priest approaches them.


[19-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note further that Protestant thinking, at least the Calvinist parts, decide that the powerless CAN'T EVER get better.


[19-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what originated as a tool to move on with people's lives and stop worrying about shit from 20 years ago ends up being a way for scumbags high up to enjoy a life of no consequences while heaping punishments on those below.


[19-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, most of Protestant thinking is completely fukking batshit evil.


[19-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something is deeply wrong with English culture that makes classism turn to extremes while trying to hide itself.


[19-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/02/18/buttigieg-sanders-iowa-recanvass-gap-115898


[19-Feb-20 07:28 PM] Opponent#3498
a terrible loss for Sanders yet again.


[19-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
he's obviously doomed.


[19-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Opponent#3498
vote Lord Buttchug.


[19-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pardoned-man-whose-family-donated-to-campaign-2020-2

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Trump pardoned a construction-company owner whose family donated ov...
Trump pardoned and commuted the sentences of nearly a dozen people on Tuesday, including former Gov. Rod Blagojevich of Illinois.
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[19-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump on Tuesday pardoned Paul Pogue, a construction-company owner who pleaded guilty in 2010 to underpaying his taxes by nearly half a million dollars.


[19-Feb-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
> Pogue's son and his daughter-in-law have donated over $200,000 to Trump's campaign since August, the Daily Beast reported, citing Federal Election Commission filings. Their previous donations to Republican campaigns did not surpass $10,000, the report said.


[19-Feb-20 08:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[19-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
better question: what was this guy doing for the past 9 years?


[19-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
was he in prison? Was he out and about with the debt still on him most of the way through Obama administration as well?


[19-Feb-20 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
did he pay the debt?


[19-Feb-20 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
if this was recent, yeah this would be typical Trump doing Trump things. But like this, it looks like they paid extra for the criminal record to go away. That's... w/e, worse things in the world, esp in Trump world.


[19-Feb-20 08:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8t1KDACkXR/

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United States Army on Instagram: “"Judge me by my size, do you?" - ...
74k Likes, 925 Comments - United States Army (@usarmy) on Instagram: “"Judge me by my size, do you?" - #Yoda . . . U.S. Army M1 Abrams armored tracked vehicles, are…”
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[19-Feb-20 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
M1 is a shining example of 'there is such a thing as 'too big'' I think.


[19-Feb-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of these people weren't even in prison


[19-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Prison's for poor black kids that get caught with too much weed, not millionaires that steal their way to the top


[19-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
well yeh, the better question is if he payed the money.


[19-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
if he didn't thats not on Trump


[19-Feb-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
but, in classic Christian tradition, Trump's selling indulgences


[19-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-offered-assange-pardon-if-he-covered-up-russian-hack-court-hears

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Trump Offered Assange Pardon if He Covered Up Russian Hack, WikiLea...
Lawyers acting for the WikiLeaks founder said Dana Rohrabacher, a former Republican congressman, had brought the message to London from Trump.
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[19-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
you know the best part of this?


[19-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump doesn't _truly_ believe his conspiracy theories. He knows what's up. And is really worried about that.


[19-Feb-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/giuliani-blasts-bloomberg-for-flip-flop-on-stop-and-frisk/

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Giuliani blasts Bloomberg for flip-flop on stop-and-frisk
Rudy Giuliani knocked Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg for condemning the use of the controversial “stop-and-frisk” policy while he was mayor of New York. “What…
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[19-Feb-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/19/george-zimmerman-sues-pete-buttigieg-elizabeth-warren-defamation/4808184002/

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George Zimmerman sues Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg for defamati...
A lawsuit claims Democratic presidential candidates Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg defamed George Zimmerman in tweets on Feb. 5 recognizing what would have been Trayvon Martin’s 25th birthday.
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[19-Feb-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Go away already you racist piece of shit


[19-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
quick and easy cash grab.


[19-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it might even work, with Trump still around


[19-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I think this is what he's counting on.


[19-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483700-biden-responds-to-ad-highlighting-past-bloomberg-praise-i-dont-endorse

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Biden responds to ad highlighting past Bloomberg praise: 'I don't e...
Former Vice President Joe Biden hit back Wednesday at a campaign ad from former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg highlighting Biden’s previous praise of his fellow Democratic presidential candidate.
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[19-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden seems only to have good quips about New York mayors


[19-Feb-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well new york mayors are a proud experienced bunch unlike those mayors of cities he;s never heard of


[19-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
so what, the original quote was a deepfake?


[19-Feb-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[19-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
so, like, what is even the point? It's like a self-own.


[19-Feb-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, biden is really good at those


[19-Feb-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/agj7n8whqvh41.jpg

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[19-Feb-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent Trump can't interfere in civil suits


[19-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
like that ever stopped him


[19-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
right now he literally declared himself 'The Law'


[19-Feb-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
He can interfere in the sense he can order the arrest and detainment of the plaintiffs


[19-Feb-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
or prevent Zimmerman from having to pay anything


[19-Feb-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
he can't stop the court from awarding damages


[19-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
he's suing them though. Him having to pay anything isn't a concern.


[19-Feb-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
whoops mixed it up


[19-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/19/donald-trump-offered-julian-assange-pardon-russia-hack-wikileaks

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Donald Trump 'offered Julian Assange a pardon if he denied Russia l...
Offer claim made at WikiLeaks founder’s extradition hearing after WikiLeaks published emails damaging to Hillary Clinton in 2016
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[19-Feb-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie florida is back out of play for republicans https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-cant-bar-felons-from-registering-to-vote-over-fees-and-fines-court-rules/

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Florida can't bar felons from registering to vote over fees and fin...
As many as 1.6 million Florida felons who have completed their prison sentences could regain voting privileges under Amendment 4.
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[19-Feb-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
ofc I'm sure they'll appeal it to scotus


[19-Feb-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
and scotus will say "actually fuck black people"


[19-Feb-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
but i don't think they'll have time before the election


[19-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what counts rn


[20-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Sunnyside posted earlier, yeah, not surprising at this point. IIRC Trump wants to grill Assange, and it seems to be largely because Assange hasn't been entirely playing ball with what Trump wants.


[20-Feb-20 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-Feb-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JmFa2Q40lg

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Tony Babino - L'Internationale (swing jazz version)
Tony Babino - L'Internationale (working class anthem)
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[20-Feb-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
Joe Biden: the Art of Self-Own


[20-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Shart of War


[20-Feb-20 12:48 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TylerHuckabee/status/1230175855864897544?s=20

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https://twitter.com/TylerHuckabee/status/1230175855864897544?s=20
facts don't care about feelings
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[20-Feb-20 12:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA8fpVK_8YI

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA8fpVK_8YI
ALERT: Trump Authoritarianism EXPLODES
--Looking at the last 12 days we find an authoritarian nightmare under Donald Trump, the likes of which would have been unimaginable just years ago
🔊 Want to read 5 books in one sitting? Try Blinkist for free at http://www.blinkist.com/pakman

What's the "Last Straw" for Trump...
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[20-Feb-20 12:58 AM] illumnious#7938
shit what a dickhead


[20-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
he knows reelection is unlikely, and for now he's got a free pass to do whatever.


[20-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
no wonder it's cranked to 13.


[20-Feb-20 01:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If anyone other than Sanders wins Trump winning is very likely.


[20-Feb-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
come on democrats, dont fuck this up


[20-Feb-20 01:40 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) 1st result for me on news searching "democratic party nomination" gave https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/19/bernie-sanders-and-the-revenge-of-the-superdelegates/

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Bernie Sanders and the Revenge of the Superdelegates - CounterPunch...
Unless Bernie Sanders wins enough delegates to capture the Democratic Party nomination on the first ballot, he is not going to be the nominee. The reason will be that the superdelegates–those same people who were his wrath in 2016–will come back to deny him the nomination. The...
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[20-Feb-20 01:41 AM] jlun2#8758
so young ppl pls vote


[20-Feb-20 01:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1230181126615863296

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Julian Assange's lawyer says Trump offered a pardon if Assange covered up Russian hacking of Democrats
The lawyer of the Wikileaks founder claimed in a British court that former US congressman Dana Rohrabacher visited Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. Rohrabacher allegedly went on behalf of President Donald Trump to offer a pardon if Assange said Russia was not involved in the leak of Democratic National Committee emails. White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said the claim "is a complete fabrication and a total lie."
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[20-Feb-20 02:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sazzygram3/status/1230147586645995520?s=20

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🌍❤Tammy, RN🌎❤ (@sazzygram3)
https://twitter.com/sazzygram3/status/1230147586645995520?s=20
Wow, I occasionally scan the MAGAt FB posts to see what they're up to.
One page is instructing their members to vote for the "communist" in the OK primary.
MAGAts really want Bernie to be the nominee.
Am I the only one who is concerned about this?
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[20-Feb-20 02:05 AM] illumnious#7938
you should


[20-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
they're not entirely detached from reality, so they must have a plan to deal with Bernie


[20-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
really wonder what that might be


[20-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The plan is to split the vote, believing that otherwise someone like Pete wins


[20-Feb-20 02:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/ElVBfECmHx?amp=1


[20-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
then hav the DNC hand over things to Bloomberg


[20-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
who is basically Trump lite


[20-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way, no matter who wins the general election, America is run by a bigoted rich guy


[20-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie wins it outright tho, they're fukked.


[20-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their gambit is dependent on Bernie not actually being able to win.


[20-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
538 adjusted sanders odds down again


[20-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
despite polling showing him in a tremendous lead


[20-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/>


[20-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about half how much they put him up, so might just be more polls coming in blunting things.


[20-Feb-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expect more stability after Nevada and SC


[20-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also likely that it's because of improved odds of Bloomberg due to his massive media presence.


[20-Feb-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think 538 actually puts too much stokk in temporary boosts from ads.


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most voters make up their minds in the last 3 days before an election/caucus, at which point they actually look somewhat at what people are saying and the memes.


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
they run on polls


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article240397026.html


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's at that point where Bloomberg gets screwed because it's pretty easy to find out about his shit.


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
if their main data source is unreliable, not much they can do about it


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, their model also includes advertising presence IIRC


[20-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes into account how much each candidate has spent on ads.


[20-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
With an expectation that ads help.


[20-Feb-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-campaign-ads/

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Tracking Every Presidential Candidate’s TV Ad Buys
We’re tracking the 2020 campaign ads being aired across the United States, plus how much presidential candidates and outside groups are spending on them.
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[20-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think for any other candidate, ads would help greatly.


[20-Feb-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg just has too much readily-discussed baggage.


[20-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The plan that people have to vote for Bernie because he's "easy to beat"


[20-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is exactly what some Democrats in open primary states did with Trump in 2016


[20-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
never underestimate your enemy its...


[20-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It does not work


[20-Feb-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we just need one democrat yelling about how stone henge is god's dairy farm or something


[20-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Williamson should have never dropped out


[20-Feb-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she atleast made things entertaining


[20-Feb-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm going to miss that


[20-Feb-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh is the debate now


[20-Feb-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
F


[20-Feb-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
30 minutes


[20-Feb-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ish


[20-Feb-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly Chris Matthews will not be fielding questions


[20-Feb-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Bernie sanders, is it true you plan to kill us all?"


[20-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Just you, Chris, I believe it's what the people have asked for"


[20-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-msnbc-live-stream-24-7-free/>


[20-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
debate starting


[20-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Bernie starting off strong.


[20-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Warren just shat on Bloomberg hard. Nice.


[20-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is everything I hoped for so far.


[20-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus, Warren drew blood fast


[20-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie tore off Bloomberg's clothes and lubed him up good.


[20-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren put a sword thru his ass and out his chest.


[20-Feb-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was awesome


[20-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now...who is this even? She's feasting on the carnage.


[20-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the first 10 minutes beat all previous debates.


[20-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just tuned in and saw Bloomberg blabbering


[20-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was responding to a triple assault.


[20-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be clips of the Warren bit soon


[20-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all of them vs. Bloomberg.


[20-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren quoted things implying Trump said them, saying the enemy they're fighting said them


[20-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do they usually let people cheer?


[20-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
then revealed it was from Bloomberg


[20-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes.


[20-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Pete's now attakking Bernie and Bloomberg both as being "not Democrats"


[20-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
so what, Bernie's a Republican now? xD


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying Bernie is a communist


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's officially an independent


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that Bloomberg is a Republican


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol complaint about Bernie Bros


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it's too good a thing to let go.


[20-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
impossible to disprove due to vagueness


[20-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I expect it'll be used right up until elections


[20-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren just turned a question about Bernie Bros into an attakk on Bloomberg.


[20-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The debate hosts are trying to fukk over Bernie with Bernie Bros stuff


[20-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mayor rat is trying really hard to be less likable than Clinton


[20-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy, Chuck Todd with Sanders


[20-Feb-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the guy who goes on TV at least once a week and whines about Sanders


[20-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, that's Klobuchar.


[20-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now she's arguing the Boomer Trolley problem.


[20-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's unfair to the unions who hav worked hard to get basic care


[20-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
to provide everyone actual care.


[20-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete going on about his plan.


[20-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgemeg/mayor-pete-buttigieg-health-plan-includes-retroactive-billing-enrollment

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Mayor Pete Needs to Explain His Very Dumb Health Plan
Tonight's the night to drag Pete Buttigieg for his proposal to retroactively bill people thousands of dollars for insurance.
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[20-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
'But of those three moderates, only Buttigieg claims his plan will guarantee that every person in America has insurance while still preserving people's "choice" of a private plan or the public option. How does PeteCare pull this off? By automatically enrolling anyone without insurance in the government plan and then back-billing them, potentially via tax filings, for a year's worth of coverage, which could be thousands of dollars.'


[20-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Pete's plan is public insurance modeled after private


[20-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
except with bills that you can't really contest.


[20-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[20-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete was just like, a lost child as Bernie went on about how big pharma is supporting Pete's campaign.


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is 10/10


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has biden's face gotten crazier?


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like a literal clown.


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
he looks like a Voyager alien now.


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hirogen


[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.startrek.com/database_article/hirogen

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[20-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our next president, everyone.


[20-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bloomberg getting ignored


[20-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[20-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg got destroyed in 10 minutes and now is just trying to not get hurt any more.


[20-Feb-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
man warren just ripping into everyone


[20-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren has set the whole debate stage on fire basically.


[20-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
UNTRIED?


[20-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't believe this clown replaced Steyer


[20-Feb-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scandinavia begs to differ on that untried label


[20-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh my fukking god


[20-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is arguing


[20-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
that Stop and Frisk is what everyone does


[20-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Argumentum Ad Populum


[20-Feb-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that he just *did it too often*


[20-Feb-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Everyone else was racist, why should i be any different?"


[20-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is now arguing that if we stopped everyone who's racist, there'd be nobody left.


[20-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is just Argumentum Ad Populum.


[20-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Well you can't stop me, others are racist too!"


[20-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tu Quoque.


[20-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar sounds like she's struggling.


[20-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's not been under attack before, really


[20-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Berine we need your prostate exam results why aren't you sharing

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[20-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Honahue#0656
KEK


[20-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, yeah.


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, Klobuchar seems to hav the same problem as Pete


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
DIdn't actually fight any against racism


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
just figured saying such and such was all it took


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's a prosecutor so she will never get the left wing vote of the party.


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now seeking higher office, surprised that anyone actually has the numbers to say they fukked up.


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Honahue#0656
oh yeah the 38yo guy is afraid of a physical


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats seem to forget they _need_ the left wing of their party


[20-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They only win when they are energized


[20-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie gonna kill Pete


[20-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
beat him to death with his 5lbs prostate


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
5 liberals prostate


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
lubs


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Klobuchar why did you mention Turbotax


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, the people who have lobbied to make paying taxes harder?


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly even if I knew for a fact that Sanders was going to die 3 days into office I'd still vote for him because I trust him to come up with a better VP than anyone else


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[20-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
go home Bloomberg


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If he died on January 19, his VP would be fine the next day


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I can't go to turbotax"


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg's excuse is it would take too long.


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
>1000pg tax return


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's gotta hav those accountants, TSP


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
how else will he hide his billions?


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice way to make yourself likable and down to earth you fuck


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
uh, it can't be taht long to say it goes to Ireland and doesn't get taxed

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[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it can


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg is like a GTA presidential candidate


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich people do really weird things to get money


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they'll take out loans


[20-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
then become an employee of the bank


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
in exchange for the bank just never pressing the debt


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it's a loan forgivement that's never actually written down


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or skip all that and just *create* a bank


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
he's got to come forward with his stop and frisk policy


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg getting near to saying "binders of women"


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But i already apologized for it"


[20-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
oh shit


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
they actual going after him


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is stumbling.


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice.


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
🍿


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the problem with loan forgivements is they're income


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
taxable income.


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But proving they exist when there's no real paper trail is hard.


[20-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, binders full of women.


[20-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Honahue#0656
basically


[20-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren just threw Bloomberg in the grave he dug.


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Honahue#0656
OOOOOOH


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bidens full of women


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The crowd is unhappy with Bloomberg.


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy fucking shit


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Unhappy with jokes I told"


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did...did no one prep him for this question?


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he prepped for any of this.


[20-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Honahue#0656
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[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is gonna have to be censored


[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, "keep it quiet"


[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Murder on live TV


[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
damn Warren, get em


[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is covered in dirt.


[20-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
he's Trump


[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Honahue#0656
like no different at all


[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I never thought there'd be an exchange where Biden somehow pulls it off


[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What are the chances he knows how to use Twitter in the first place


[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is dead.


[20-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like


[20-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
campaign-ending.


[20-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
this beautiful


[20-Feb-20 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Meanwhile my little petri dish of MAGAs are crowing about how the democrats are "tearing each other apart" and that there'll be no one left, Trump wins 2020


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He _wanted_ to be here


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, Bloomberg is all over the debate stage in little chunks.


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_wanted_


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he's a Republican


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is burning gasoline all over the stage


[20-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Honahue#0656
kek, I can't be too mad though Midwest vowels are hard to give up


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
exactly how is CNN going to handle this I wonder


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN is gonna be all about Bernie Bros


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and try to not talk about Bloomberg.


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Bloom berg lost which means he won!"


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're gonna talk about how Warren is beating Bloomberg


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that Biden is staying strong with Pete


[20-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh nice, Pete and Klobuchar slandering each other.


[20-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
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[20-Feb-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
sorry I live this gif


[20-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Klobuchar and Pete hav basically wounded each other.


[20-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is gonna come out of this very good.


[20-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is the best debate so far, so much salt and blood on the floor


[20-Feb-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i had popcorn for this


[20-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren, Bernie, Biden will probably benefit.


[20-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren and Biden needed it.


[20-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"latin american policy"


[20-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf is that


[20-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Clearly everyone's warmed up"


[20-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Biden actually coherent tonight


[20-Feb-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
toastiest debate so far


[20-Feb-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the toast is charred black but still


[20-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm glad they went after Bloomberg so hard,


[20-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They only gave him a shovel.


[20-Feb-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i called it that he would be torn to shreds on the debate stage


[20-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He dug with gusto.


[20-Feb-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait I walked away for 5 minutes who brought up "latin american policy"


[20-Feb-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It wasn't Biden, was it?


[20-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
I wasn't sure, he owns a few new outlets himself they could've softballed him the whole night


[20-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
but they didn't and he either has bad handlers or thinks he's done nothing wrong ever and it wouldn't come up


[20-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm guessing the later


[20-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@WingbeatPony Was against Klobuchar by a moderator over not getting the Mexican president's name or policies


[20-Feb-20 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I haven't seen someone this unprepared since the Zizek vs. Peterson "debate"


[20-Feb-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably thought the hosts would target everyone in his favor


[20-Feb-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Eventually lead to "latin america", which is, like, two continents


[20-Feb-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh it's back


[20-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656

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[20-Feb-20 03:59 AM] Macarou#9574
Peterson debated Slavok Zizek? Sounds beautiful.


[20-Feb-20 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh man


[20-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 right now is gold


[20-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
"PERRY BACON JR.9:45 PM
Well, it looks like Warren has decided that if she can’t win, Bloomberg can’t, either."


[20-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Macarou#9574
I feel like I should remember that. Didn't Peterson just read the Communist Manfiesto, like a week before the debate, and nothing else?


[20-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
nuclear power bro


[20-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
just, nuclear power until we can get fusion


[20-Feb-20 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah. And then he got sniffed to death


[20-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, he didn't just dig, Warren beat him with the shovel until he did.


[20-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Macarou#9574
Sniffed to death, sounds, quite amusing


[20-Feb-20 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Zizek has some...tics


[20-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Macarou#9574
Tics,ah.


[20-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, nuclear powerplants have a pretty small foot print compared to solar


[20-Feb-20 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This was the debate in a nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIQp4KMwqwk

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People paid hundreds to watch two dudes talk at each other, what a time to be alive

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[20-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
most of it has been invented you just gotta do it


[20-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Macarou#9574
That, sounds beautiful


[20-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
free college and housing so they can retrain


[20-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
transitional fuel is uranium till you gen get either LFTR or fusion online


[20-Feb-20 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/politics/john-rood-pentagon-official-depart/index.html

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The Pentagon's top policy official who warned against withholding military aid to Ukraine last year resigned on Wednesday at the request of President Donald Trump, according to a copy of his resignation letter obtained by CNN.
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[20-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Honahue#0656
good luck piercing the currtain


[20-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
China wants to do that they aren't dumb


[20-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is so much more entertaining being a BSG fan.


[20-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE WANT TO FRAKK


[20-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
YEAH WE'RE FANS OF FRAKKING


[20-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Honahue#0656
he's not wrong completely petrol is important for a lot more than just power and gasoline


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
plastics, pharmecuticals


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
but they use a lot less


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but if we do not stop burning it now, we will absolutely screw up the planet.


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We cannot meet the Paris accords' goal as-is.


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav to end the burning of gas.


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, but we are going to need to use oil for a long time


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if we do, we make things worse.


[20-Feb-20 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
just hopefully for reasons other than burning it


[20-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plastics are horrible for the environment.


[20-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to change them too.


[20-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck Mongolia"- Joe Biden


[20-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I think in medicine plastics are pretty important still


[20-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
but again I bet that's a fraction of its use


[20-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 60% of the ocean garbage is disposable straws and cutlery.


[20-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
I thought it was fishing nets


[20-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no reason for plastic straws unless it is a milkshake or Slurpee or something


[20-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fishing nets are a problem, but not on the same scale.


[20-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're drinking a Coke with a plastic straw you're part of the problem.


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom uses a plastic straw every single day.


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For what? Coffee from Starbucks?


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She seems to believe the way to consume water is with it being 60% ice.


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wat


[20-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it is but the appeal is then that the ice melts and you get more cold water


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really dumb.


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The water from the tap is cold.


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
I've bought 2 nalgene bottles in like 4 years cause one shattered


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you know


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
boomers and Gen X


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
that's how I drink water


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe everything needs ice


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
tons of ice


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that you should drink it all night long.


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Water?


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I do that


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is now pretending to be against redlining.


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he knows what it is...


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I also get up to use the bathroom a bunch so maybe I'm dumb.


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was talking about being on Wallstreet


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
and being in finance


[20-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he thinks it's about bankrupcy.


[20-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg's campaign is just buried.


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Honahue#0656
hmm yes captalism with a human face


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
everyone but Bloomberg has been forced to agree with Bernie.


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't attakk him on economic matters.


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can only attakk him on Bernie Bros.


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really weak attack point.


[20-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[20-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Turn over 20% of ownership to employees


[20-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good idea.


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
>giving it all way


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg just basically said he bought the DNC


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm imagining a brokered convention where it's like


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie has so many delegates it's impossible to cheat


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
billionaires work less hard that a Denny's dishwasher


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
like he has 1700 delegates


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you do then?


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is having to dance around the question.


[20-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They really can't attakk Bernie on economic matters.


[20-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is basically having to be Bernie-lite.


[20-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie is only a millionaire cause he's done a book deal and been in congress for 40 years


[20-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're not throwing out capitalism by having workers on corporate boards holy shit


[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
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[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
GETTEM BERNIE


[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm hearing Bernie and I'm like


[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is as far right as I'm willing to go.


[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wow, this is every left winger in Europe in like 1983"


[20-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is going down AGAIN


[20-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only Warren wrote my textbook as well as she spoke tonight.


[20-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was awful.


[20-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Honahue#0656
tax everything above 1bil at 100% is my position


[20-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
probably even lower than that


[20-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
1 billion is a lot


[20-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
GETTEM


[20-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie just killed everyone


[20-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude it took Bloomberg two seconds to say "Trump administration"


[20-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Which tax haven do you live in?"


[20-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[20-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"New York City thank you very much"


[20-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Three houses seems like less when you consider how he explains it


[20-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
I suspect Bloomberg has more than 3 houses


[20-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do figure every Vermonter has a summer home, to be fair.


[20-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Honahue#0656
senetor have like a 100k income


[20-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
3 homes isn't impossible on that income


[20-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
but it is a lot I agree


[20-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
but Bloomberg is a whole nother ballpark of wealth


[20-Feb-20 04:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I need sleep. Someone post a link to the debate that can be watched later and pin it on the channel?


[20-Feb-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish these debates were earlier in the night


[20-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[20-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete saying Bernie's honest, but criticizing him


[20-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is like "well you're not", tears him apart.


[20-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Honahue#0656
Warren hittin hard


[20-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She needed it.


[20-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also wow, they had this straight up on the Strip in Las Vegas?


[20-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Honahue#0656
>common ground


[20-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder


[20-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@LSMFET14/law-school-memes-for-edgy-t14s-endorses-joseph-sloppy-joe-biden-f4fd84d09f48

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Law School Memes for Edgy T14s Endorses Joseph “Sloppy Joe” Biden
Law School Memes for Edgy T14s (LSMFET14) is a Facebook group of over seventy-three-thousand law students, lawyers, and people interested…
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[20-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"People tell law students all the time, “Even if you don’t do well in law school, you can still have a successful career.” It’s hard to believe. But no one embodies this truth like Joe Biden. Biden plagiarized a paper he submitted as a first-year law student and finished in the bottom quintile of his class while claiming for decades he graduated in the top half. But you know what else he did? Become senator of Delaware. He moved forward and overcame his blunders, somehow."


[20-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Honahue#0656
failson


[20-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
wish I could fail that well


[20-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden would not even have been admitted to the bar were he a law student today.


[20-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was white.


[20-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Honahue#0656
most of Congress are failsons


[20-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was also the 1970s, lawyer discipline/bar scrutiny was uncommon prior to the 1980's.


[20-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
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[20-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
getter Pete


[20-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ooh, she writing a rebutal


[20-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Stealing from your client_ didn't regularly get your disbarred until the 1990's.


[20-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar is falling apart, nice.


[20-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete/Klobuchar fighting is great.


[20-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Honahue#0656
she's literally shaking


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren give up your delegates at the convention


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Honahue#0656
fire


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren should just dump delegates onto Bernie and say fukk Bloomberg.


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what will happen I predict.


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Becomes his VP pikk.


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
ehhhh


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's the best of the rest of the field to do so.


[20-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
if that doesn't happen, she gets Secretary of Treasury or some other big position


[20-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really like the idea of a Midwestern moderate being Bernie's VP


[20-Feb-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she can also be VP and secretary of treasury at the same time according to legal experts


[20-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie I think just got the best answer there


[20-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Attakked the process as undemocratic.


[20-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone else just acting like they hav no ideals.


[20-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
Bloomberg only ran cause he's worried Bernie would raise his taxes


[20-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
debating with someone like Bernie is almost insurmountable I think


[20-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
cause guess who did this exact shit for longer than some of you were alive?


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
and with ideas he doesn't need to obfuscate, too


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it's pretty hilarious


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
BIDEN has had to take Bernie stances this debate


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
BIDEN.


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like you just can't disagree with his stances, you'll get destroyed.


[20-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most you can do is compare him with the Soviets


[20-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the thing is, if you're saying "yes billionnaires shouldn't exist", "yes Denmark is the best country to liv in right now", and "the middle class is getting killed"


[20-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
"you thing housing is a right so you thing we should murder the landlords"


[20-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell do you claim Bernie's message is more divisive than yours?


[20-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've just ADOPTED his message.


[20-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it completely undermines the Bernie Bros points


[20-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Bernie Bros make mean memes


[20-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So poor people don't deserve healthcare


[20-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
most Bernie Bro points are checkmark twitter bitching that they got a bullied for supporting Warren


[20-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait to see CNN's analysis on how Bernie lost and Klobuchar or Pete won


[20-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just makes you look weak because your message is watered down but the same thing.


[20-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At least every outlet should agree Bloomberg had to be taken away from the stage with several plastic bags and a mop


[20-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar is trying to play to emotion...this is not a good idea.


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even among liberals, just crying for the camera makes you look kinda weak


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
the Soviets is actually an amazing thing to bring up


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
people want aggressive energy to fight.


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I'm not asking for any money"


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Christ dude stop hitting yourself


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
why? Because there's a great story of a royal fuck-up that the left of the world can learn from.


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Klob is crying


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't work tho, Opponent


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Peeing her pants


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone but Bloomberg agreed with Bernie about socialism.


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe shitting and cumming


[20-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Honahue#0656
mm yes philosipher kings the best system


[20-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav like, Warren saying that it's a cheap shot and Bloomberg's shitty for it.


[20-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I mean it doesn't work for more than the obvious reasons xD


[20-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Pete gave the usual Reagan-like thing


[20-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now Warren is pouring gasoline


[20-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, Bernie is a candidate in any socialist party spot in like, 1983 France


[20-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By 1993 people would call him a champagne socialist


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is getting it right


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
aggression with your compassion.


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU etc.


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Honahue#0656
not bad


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crowd getting rowdy, nice.


[20-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Honahue#0656
oof


[20-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
let him talk but yeah he's bullshit


[20-Feb-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie did it well.


[20-Feb-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not as good as Warren, but he was last.


[20-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
MSNBC just said that Bloomberg could be said to hav either lost his campaign or "sat apart"


[20-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice.


[20-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The piece of shit that's bubbling on the floor also "sits apart"


[20-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, ok, I guess...


[20-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry, his money can be formed into a container to remold him.


[20-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
MSNBC ripping into Bloomberg is pure gold.


[20-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Super Tuesday will not turn out well for him.


[20-Feb-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was everything i'd hoped it would be with bloomberg


[20-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/SilERabbit/status/1230339141629407232

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#DemDebate
MODERATOR: Should the person with the most delegates win?

RACIST SEXIST BILLIONAIRE: No, fuck the voters.
WARREN: No, fuck the voters.
BUTTIGIEG: No, fuck the voters.
BIDEN: No, fuck the voters.
KLOB: No, fuck the voters.
BERNIE: Fucking wow.
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[20-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing a lot of this on twitter.


[20-Feb-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed chris, it was a passionate blood bath


[20-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden "Fuck actual democracy, that's not what the democratic party is about"


[20-Feb-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm the vice president, i'm the one who wins!"


[20-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/iamTannenbaum/status/1230341673781256192

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https://twitter.com/iamTannenbaum/status/1230341673781256192
We go live to the Bloomberg campaign:
#DemDebate https://t.co/PtleHGbKIQ
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[20-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/Pa1Lauren/status/1230345222116167680

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yeah good ok (@Pa1Lauren)
https://twitter.com/Pa1Lauren/status/1230345222116167680
Say what!? They just all agreed on @cnn that Bernie Sanders was the big winner tonight, that he’s the frontrunner. He’s gonna roll through Nevada. #DemDebate #Bernie2020 https://t.co/oyhEkcz8wi
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[20-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1230346235711643648

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Hilary Agro 🍄 (@hilaryagro)
https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/status/1230346235711643648
Pretty awesome that instead of going after the actual frontrunner, all the candidates tore Bloomberg a new asshole and mostly left Bernie alone lol #DemDebate
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[20-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, there are three prevailing opinions on Twitter:


[20-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 Warren won the debate, Bernie second.
2 Bernie won, Warren second.
3 Trump won because lul all Dems are the same gaiz.


[20-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/78tiger/status/1230346376975810560

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78tiger (@78tiger)
https://twitter.com/78tiger/status/1230346376975810560
Switched from #DemDebate analysis to #MrMagoo, which scored a full 7% on @RottenTomatoes. Did I miss anything? https://t.co/3dHvH50Iim
Twitter


[20-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/jerroldlamar/status/1230347301081710593

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#demdebate

Pete: Denmark is the country most likely to achieve the American Dream.

Bernie:
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[20-Feb-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chris Matthews so fucking scared of bernie


[20-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NBC: "Why didn't the candidates discuss these issues?!"


[20-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
*???*


[20-Feb-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You shitslurpers run the debate you utter ratfuckers


[20-Feb-20 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But why didnt they discuss these things we never asked thme about!?


[20-Feb-20 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/i-ll-rule-you-peasants-with-an-iron-fist-says-bloomb-1841790198

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‘I’ll Rule You Peasants With An Iron Fist,’ Says Bloomberg To Stand...
LAS VEGAS—In a demonstration of the high level of enthusiasm the former New York City mayor enjoys among the electorate, surging presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg was met with a standing ovation during the Democratic debate Wednesday as he promised to “rule you peasants...
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[20-Feb-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion was fast https://politics.theonion.com/chuck-todd-reminds-candidates-that-if-they-want-more-ti-1841796036

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Chuck Todd Reminds Candidates That If They Want More Time To Speak ...
All the latest politics coverage from The Onion, America's finest news source.
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[20-Feb-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Annoying it cut the title, when it's all about the title: "Chuck Todd Reminds Candidates That If They Want More Time To Speak There Are Melee Weapons Under Each Of Their Lecterns"


[20-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Honahue#0656

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[20-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Honahue#0656
everyone killed Bloomberg I hope he realizes how unpopular he is


[20-Feb-20 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/bloomberg-hires-thousands-of-canvassers-to-stop-black-m-1841701859

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Bloomberg Hires Thousands Of Canvassers To Stop Black Men On Street...
NEW YORK—Citing polling data that suggested the former mayor was tracking poorly among 18- to 25-year-old African Americans, Michael Bloomberg’s presidential campaign hired thousands of canvassers Friday to stop black men on the street and force them to hear his campaign pitch...
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[20-Feb-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/483680-group-glues-maga-hats-on-pigeons-as-protest-ahead-of-nevada

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Group glues MAGA hats on pigeons as protest ahead of Nevada debate
A group has released a number of pigeons with MAGA hats glued to their heads in downtown Las Vegas ahead of the Democratic debate and President Trump's visit to the city Wednesday.
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[20-Feb-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not the onion


[20-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Honahue#0656
pigeons don't deserve this


[20-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
actually ironic I suppose cause Trump is rolling back migratory bird protections which were at leasst partly implemented becaur carrier pisions went extinct


[20-Feb-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
sorry, passenger pigeons


[20-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1230223901352976384

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I obtained a copy of the Bloomberg campaign’s strict NDA that it requires staffers to sign. It’s 9 pages long and could prevent employees from reporting workplace abuse:
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[20-Feb-20 05:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Bernie's support is only 25%"


[20-Feb-20 05:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
out of around 7 candidates


[20-Feb-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, there was some talk about how his numbers were lower than 2016, when he was against 1 other canidate


[20-Feb-20 06:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was a third candidate but literally no one voted gfor him so he didnt even throw a dent in either candidates delegates


[20-Feb-20 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Gaslight the behavior of some of his supporters"


[20-Feb-20 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Feb-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1230279781834526720

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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1230279781834526720
Whistleblower who provided the NDA - at significant risk to themself - gave me the following statement about Bloomberg:
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[20-Feb-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51567971

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Nine dead after gun attacks on Germany shisha bars
Officials say there is evidence the suspect, who has been found dead, was a far-right extremist.
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[20-Feb-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
so there was a mass shooting that was most likely racially motivated in germany


[20-Feb-20 11:22 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
gun laws works btw


[20-Feb-20 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/483754-trump-order-redirects-california-water-supply-after-reversal-from

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Trump signs order diverting water to California farmers against sta...
President Trump on Wednesday signed an order in California to re-engineer the state’s water plans, completing a campaign promise to funnel water from the north to a thirsty ag industry and growing population further south.
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[20-Feb-20 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/19/807333781/police-officers-cut-date-night-short-to-stop-armed-robber-at-restaurant

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Newlywed Police Officers Cut Date Night Short To Stop Armed Robber ...
"We just looked at each other: 'Is this what's going on? Let's go,' " Elizabethtown (Ky.) Detective Chase McKeown said, describing how he and his wife acted to stop a man with a gun.
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[20-Feb-20 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Of all the chicken joints in all the towns in all the world, he walked into theirs. Two married police officers were eating at their favorite fried chicken spot in Louisville, Ky., over the weekend when a masked man walked up to the counter, showed a gun and demanded money.


[20-Feb-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
> Two married police officers


[20-Feb-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
oh no


[20-Feb-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
they're procreating

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[20-Feb-20 11:55 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2020/02/19/maga-hat-pigeons/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram


[20-Feb-20 03:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/tywygo/status/1230361784097263616

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Bloomberg is the meritocracy.
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[20-Feb-20 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/19/sanders-alone-debate-stage-say-candidate-most-votes-should-get-nomination-convention

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Sanders Alone On Debate Stage to Say Candidate With the Most Votes ...
"Out of all the candidates, Bernie is the only one to advocate for the democratic will of the people."
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[20-Feb-20 03:45 PM] byte[]#2610
What a moment


[20-Feb-20 03:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The people should pick who leads them? 

I don't know about that. Sounds like communism to me.


[20-Feb-20 04:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You watch Bloomberg get gutted yet?


[20-Feb-20 04:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was fun


[20-Feb-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
He literally gets gutted in the first 5 min


[20-Feb-20 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It didn't stop, he even punched himself a few times


[20-Feb-20 04:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gave a whole lot of free material for attacks ads


[20-Feb-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
How's post-debate polling?


[20-Feb-20 04:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Haven't checked news much yet


[20-Feb-20 04:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

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RealClearPolitics - Betting Odds - Democratic Presidential Nomination
RealClearPolitics - Betting Odds - Democratic Presidential Nomination
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[20-Feb-20 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Betting odds for Bloomberg dropped like a rock overnight, no surprise


[20-Feb-20 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders shot up like crazy


[20-Feb-20 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I imagine if you are the only person to say the candidate with the most votes should get the nomination...


[20-Feb-20 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
> Bill o’riley tweeted that most companies force women to sign those [sexual harassment NDAs]. Trevor Noah just replies “maybe you should sit this one out bill”

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[20-Feb-20 04:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Boom, roasted


[20-Feb-20 04:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Next debate should have no entrance rules, just whoever is running


[20-Feb-20 04:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Put them all on


[20-Feb-20 04:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Two minute responses each


[20-Feb-20 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's go


[20-Feb-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Whatapityonyou/status/1230326603080597504

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For someone who hates socialism Bloomberg sure loves getting publicly owned 

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[20-Feb-20 04:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/1230410651836674048

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Sadly confirmed: The massacre in Hanau targeting young Muslims was perpetrated by a far-right extremist. Occurred just days after a dozen Germans were arrested for plotting massacres inspired by Christchurch. https://t.co/nU2dGnx1up
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[20-Feb-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> Bloomberg is going to need to draw up another NDA after Warren thoroughly fucked him.


[20-Feb-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483832-trump-decries-lack-of-fairness-in-stone-trial-ahead-of-sentencing

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Trump decries lack of 'fairness' in Stone trial ahead of sentencing
President Trump on Thursday said there had been a lack of fairness in the legal process for Roger Stone as his longtime confidant was about to be sentenced in federal court.
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[20-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483823-van-jones-calls-bloomberg-the-billion-dollar-titanic-that-met-iceberg

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Van Jones compares Bloomberg to the Titanic, Warren to the iceberg
CNN commentator Van Jones blasted Michael Bloomberg's Wednesday night performance at the Democratic presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, calling the former New York City mayor a "billion-dollar machine
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[20-Feb-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483796-three-members-of-congress-endorse-bloomberg-after-raucous-debate

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Three members of Congress endorse Bloomberg after raucous debate
Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg picked up three more congressional endorsements, despite struggling in his primary debate debut Wednesday night in Las Vegas.
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[20-Feb-20 05:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[20-Feb-20 05:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who watched that and felt more confidence in him


[20-Feb-20 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People that opened their mailbox and found a cheque


[20-Feb-20 05:55 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Fun fact, in Brazil you can still win a city hall election if you throw enough free parties


[20-Feb-20 05:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably true in most towns everywhere


[20-Feb-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you mean that's, like, actually codified, which would be very weird


[20-Feb-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jrhennessy/status/1230323289966272512?s=19

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must say The Comedy Central Roast of Mike Bloomberg has a real weird vibe. do they normally let 5 of the comedians just whale on him? not many jokes here either
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[20-Feb-20 05:56 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Oh no, a man of the people is a man who'll get drunk among strangers in a public party apparently, that still lifts up the morale in plenty of places


[20-Feb-20 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Pete/Klobuchar's argument on healthcare is basically the Boomer Trolley Problem


[20-Feb-20 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
except that the guy at the lever was so rich he escaped his bounds to survive, and is asking whether it's fair to HIM to divert it now.


[20-Feb-20 06:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Feb-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1230345415469490176?s=21

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Bloomberg campaign statement on the debate
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[20-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
New prosecutor on the Stone case defends original sentencing recommendation and that the previous team had the authority to submit it, contradicting earlier DoJ statements


[20-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/OffDutyTiger/status/1230404899386597377

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The epic Sanders v Bloomberg #DemocraticDebate moment summed up:
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[20-Feb-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to watch Trump reee on twitter


[20-Feb-20 06:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/JohnThomasHart/status/1230360860301770757

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#DemocraticDebate summary (humorous): Amy and Pete screamed, "no YOU'RE stupid!" a lot, with Joe occasionally interjecting, "look at mee!" Meanwhile Liz and Bernie murdered Mike and took turns wearing his skin like a trophy. Mike got a few garbled words out between gasps of p...
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[20-Feb-20 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh maaan https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1230421616791781377

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Watching the #DemocraticDebate after it happened (time difference). Initial thoughts. Bloomberg is being hilariously destroyed by everyone. I forgot Buttigieg even existed, even as he spoke. Bernie and Warren look so strong.
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[20-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/DerringerThe/status/1230463644196012040

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Bloomberg Offers Debate Viewers an NDA and Bag of Cash to Pretend None of that Ever Happened https://t.co/TsJZsJJ4t6
#Bloombefg #finishhim #bloombergbox
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[20-Feb-20 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Surprise surprise, the terrorist in Germany last night was an alt-right incel


[20-Feb-20 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I keep remembering that guy in the early 10s who got infamous because he went in front of his country's parliament shirtless and protested saying there needed to be a girlfriend distribution program

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[20-Feb-20 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Obviously people like them got sick of protesting


[20-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, waiting on 538's next update on who's likely to win.


[20-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently the reason Sanders fell in their prediction is there was a bug in their model.


[20-Feb-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't taking into account demographics, just polls, so there was a 1% lower chance for like, everyone, which made a No One victory less likely.


[20-Feb-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So fixing that made it look like he fell a bit.


[20-Feb-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
I should note their current predictions still basically say "only Bernie has any shot at a majority, and will almost certainly hav the most"


[20-Feb-20 06:45 PM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stone gets three years, four months.


[20-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ech


[20-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite Trump related sentence, I'll have to look it up, IIRC was an under 18 who did some sort of threat or violence because he loved Trump so much


[20-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He got put in prison long enough to ensure he will never be able to vote for him.

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[20-Feb-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically designed so that Trump doesn't need to commute it, it would end during the next presidential term anyways.


[20-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty sure the judge who handed down this sentence is/was on Democratic shortlists for SCOTUS


[20-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know about now.


[20-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483867-poll-democrats-trail-trump-in-wisconsin-lead-in-michigan-and-pennsylvania

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[20-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what the hell is wrong with Wisconsin?


[20-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Scott Walker remember


[20-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That messed them up


[20-Feb-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bit of predictive fiction:
"The 2020 election is now generally seen as the start of the shift away from traditional swing states. While Trump managed to hold the traditional "Blue Wall" state of Wisconsin and only narrowly lost Michigan and Pennsylvania, commentators on election night were stunned as the Sanders/Warren ticket pulled off what once was an impossibility: for the first time in decades, a presidential candidate had lost Ohio but won the Electoral College."


[20-Feb-20 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Iowa, once comfortably a swing state again went for Trump, a reddening that would be confirmed again in 2024 and 2028, which when combined with the failure of the 2020 Iowa Democratic Caucuses, essentially ended the political importance of the state. Meanwhile, though Texas did not go blue until 2028, the 2020 elections were generally seen as the beginning of the end for the GOP in the state, though state and national Republicans would deny it throughout the decade."


[20-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483856-poll-sanders-holds-7-point-lead-in-crucial-california-primary

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Poll: Sanders holds 7-point lead in crucial California primary
Sen.
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[20-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But enough about my US history fanfics, actual news here.


[20-Feb-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump ally Roger Stone sentenced to over 3 years in prison
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/02/20/trump-ally-roger-stone-to-be-sentenced-as-case-roils-doj/

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Trump ally Roger Stone sentenced to over 3 years in prison
Trump loyalist and ally Roger Stone was sentenced Thursday to more than three years in federal prison, following an extraordinary move by Attorney General William Barr to back off his Justice Department's original sentencing recommendation.
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[20-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
'In a memo issued this week, advisers to Bloomberg, who will first appear on primary ballots on Super Tuesday, warned that Sanders would be “all but impossible to defeat” after the March 3 nominating contests if the campaign’s current delegate projections hold.'


[20-Feb-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
mmmmm


[20-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, brokered convention but a pathetic one.


[20-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren going "fuck you" and trading 300 or so delegates for a VP spot.


[20-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/18/us/date-night-robbery-trnd/index.html

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Off-duty officers stop a robbery when a masked man intrudes on thei...
Date night for two off-duty officers ended with them foiling a robbery at a restaurant chain in Kentucky.
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[20-Feb-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/democracy-palpatine-sidious-star-wars-ilove-democracy-gif-13912918

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[20-Feb-20 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Feb-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon Mars or Moon base of course


[20-Feb-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Feb-20 08:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.yahoo.com/montreal-ends-electric-scooter-experiment-citing-disorder-220751742.html

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[20-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mulvaney-admits-gop-doesnt-care-about-bloated-deficit-under-millionaire-friendly-trump

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Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said the quiet part out loud on Wednesday night. Mulvaney reportedly admitted...
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[20-Feb-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
> Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said the quiet part out loud on Wednesday night.
> 
> Mulvaney reportedly admitted during a speech at an Oxford Union event in Britain that today’s Republican Party doesn’t honestly care about curtailing the now-staggering deficit when it comes to their preferred policies, according to an audio tape obtained by the Washington Post.
> 
> “My party is very interested in deficits when there is a Democrat in the White House,” the acting chief of staff said. “The worst thing in the whole world is deficits when Barack Obama was the President.”
> 
> “Then Donald Trump became president, and we’re a lot less interested as a party,” he continued.


[20-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
> Democrats have really painted themselves into a corner. Allow (gasp!) the voters to pick Sanders who is a threat to the DNC power structure, or override the voters decision, pick an “electable” centrist, and watch the party fracture permanently.


[20-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
> That's the dilemma the Pharisees (the Establishment Jews) faced 2,000 years ago. If they call Jesus a liar then they face an uprising. If they try to accommodate him their own hypocrisies are exposed by him.


[20-Feb-20 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
from that hill article about bernie leading in california


[20-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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[20-Feb-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[20-Feb-20 09:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/politics/sanders-bloomberg-socialist-president/index.html

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No, Bernie Sanders, most voters aren't comfortable with socialism
This is the moment for the ultimate question of the Bernie Sanders movement: is the United States ready for a socialist President?
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[20-Feb-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
scary godless russian commies


[20-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://peteseeger.tumblr.com/post/190698232888/surprisingly-frank-remarks-from-pete-buttigieg

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Wasn’t Any Water in the Wishing Well
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Wasn’t Any Water in the Wishing Well
Surprisingly frank remarks from Pete Buttigieg today
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[20-Feb-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Feb-20 10:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/CallumCant1/status/1230549609749123073

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Callum Cant (@CallumCant1)
https://twitter.com/CallumCant1/status/1230549609749123073
Every teenage boy who thought religion was evil in the late 00s now believes one of two things: a) we need to seize the means of production or b) we can tell your IQ by measuring your skull
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[20-Feb-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
no, it's "we can tell your IQ by measuring your skin melanin"


[20-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yes, it is that, but it's a riff on phrenology, which is just a coy proxy of that


[20-Feb-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6eeb30b3a65849442886633ab6666237

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Infighting and online hoaxes mar Democrats' campaign
RINDGE, N.H. (AP) — A group of Los Angeles artists were awaiting the results of the Democratic Party’s Iowa caucuses, hoping Bernie Sanders would win, when they fired off a hashtag on Twitter...
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[20-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“If you don’t win Twitter you’re not going to win the election”


[20-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, ask Prime Minister Corbyn about that, right after he's done ripping up Brexit documents


[20-Feb-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
no, that's an invalid syllogism


[20-Feb-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking Young voter meme


[20-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What ideology is this

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[20-Feb-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Retarded


[20-Feb-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antibridgeology


[20-Feb-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/a36d0yq7q1i41.jpg s/liberal/Democrat

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[20-Feb-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/sq2av2sj54i41.png the bad touch

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[20-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/18/bottled-water-ban-washington-state

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State senate passes bill to ban new permits for water bottling operations, calling process ‘detrimental to public welfare’
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[21-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nestle's not gonna like that :twismug:


[21-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Honahue#0656
the Great Lakes have a bit too much water right now but fuck Nestle


[21-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Nestle got denied a pumping building in norther Michigan too


[21-Feb-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Nestle can go fuck itself


[21-Feb-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buncha corporate locusts they are


[21-Feb-20 12:35 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[21-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Drudge headline "BERNIE SANDERS HAS NO DECK"


[21-Feb-20 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Groverhaus for every man, woman, and child.


[21-Feb-20 12:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Bernie housing platform


[21-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Honahue#0656
we did nothing to deserve that


[21-Feb-20 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Under socialism, load bearing drywall will actually work


[21-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Honahue#0656
go back to plaster walls, basically thin concrete and horse hair


[21-Feb-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More excerpts from "A Political History of Early 21st Century America" (Published 2064):
"The Democratic Party went into election night in 2020 expecting a loss. When Florida was called for Sanders, celebration began, and most outlets had called the election by 1 AM. Senate races led to the expected 50-50 Senate tie, leaving Warren, the first female vice president the tie breaker."


[21-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Trump adamantly refused to concede. His administration filed numerous lawsuits to keep recounts going. When it became clear all the results were genuine, he was personally asked to concede the election in a private meeting attended by both his vice president Pence and Senate Majority Leader McConnell, where he spoke the now most famous line of his presidency: 'You're all fucked now, you know it?'"


[21-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good effort, but you messed up the Trumpism.


[21-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh the riots right


[21-Feb-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
Unless boomers suddenly supported Bernie I don't see that happening


[21-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be more like "These people can't run anything; Bernie, he'll run the country into a shithole! And he'll lock me up! For what? For making the country greatness!"


[21-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers will support Bernie for one simple reason


[21-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
they hav been taught, over and over again, to vote for whoever their party's nominee is


[21-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to vote whoever they think is strongest


[21-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was designed to keep people like Bernie out


[21-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now Bernie is raining fire on Bloomberg like mad and winning primaries


[21-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He looks strong, he looks like he's the nominee.


[21-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can hate his actual policies or some abstract idea of socialism all they want.


[21-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, they'll see a strong Bernie vs. a weak Trump and vote Bernie.


[21-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The DNC has basically poisoned itself.


[21-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie will not join the Democratic party.


[21-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party will join him.


[21-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"President Sanders' sudden death in February 2023 threw the Democratic Party into borderline chaos. Privately, both the main progressive wing and the increasingly declining modera wing expressed concerns about Warren's electability in the 2024 election. Several signaled to the young three term representative from New York, Ocasio-Cortez, that it was her time. Meanwhile, the GOP faced three choices by the end of 2023: picking Donald Trump again, Nikki Haley, and Trump's own son. The last option quickly declined overtures, disappointing the GOP establishment who feared Trump spoiling another race."


[21-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[21-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will guaranteed be in jail by 2023 if he loses reelection.


[21-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with likely at least a few family members.


[21-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's committed enuff crimes while in office to spend the rest of his life in jail.


[21-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can bet your ass all the civil servants he fukked over for trying to be objective will return and not hav second thoughts about digging up everything.


[21-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's unlikely Sanders would die very suddenly.


[21-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
More likely we'll hav over 6 months of warning signs.


[21-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren would take office before he would even die.


[21-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
bernie isn't the type to try to hide his failing health like reagan and FDR did


[21-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And she'd pikk someone really popular with Bernie supporters as VP


[21-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer or Booker would both be possibilities.


[21-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by that point, it's entirely possible Warren would be seen as the very moderate end of the Democrats.


[21-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People like Nancy Pelosi would be considered blue dogs.


[21-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, they would not bother with choosing someone other than Warren, @Itsthinking


[21-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren is close enuff to Bernie in policies she'd capture the same energy.


[21-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Going further left by switching horses would only be detrimental.


[21-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
suppose bernie does win the presidency but what if the republicans win back the house and keep the senate?


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping the Senate is possible, winning bakk the House is not.


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
wouldn't that limit his ability to get things done?


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's 51-49 in the Senate, it does limit him a lot, yes.


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it means only a few Republican defections allow him to do stuff


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
thing to realize about Bernie btw


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the Senate, he tends to put in amendments *without* egotistical provisions


[21-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most Senators go "put my name on the authors list" at minimum


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie doesn't.


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, he has regularly slipped in amendments to keep Congress from fukking over workers and the poor


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
bernie actually drafts legislation and then gives it to other senators for them to put their names on


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very likely as president he would ghost write legislation


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
both republicans and democrats


[21-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
in a way Republicans wouldn't even be able to tell.


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you stop Bernie's agenda when you can't even see it?


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could stop the more overt stuff, sure


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
he's apparently pretty good at getting them both on board for stuff when moscow mitch isn't forcing republicans to toe the line


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
but tiny little things in spending bills can throw Republicans off-kilter.


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly there's a gov't program that reveals corrupt Senators etc.


[21-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, Mitch McConnel is behind bars.


[21-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but suppose said investigation finds that mitch committed no crimes.


[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html

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Russia Backs Trump’s Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Explo...
A classified briefing to lawmakers angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.
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[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or at least nothing big enough to warrent imprisonment?


[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently trump's mad that people know about russia supporting his re-election


[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then things move on as normal, but Mitch can't pull any strings.


[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of these things isn't specifically to imprison the other side, it's to keep them honest, by ripping out the corrupt parts.


[21-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
> Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get President Trump re-elected, five people familiar with the matter said, a disclosure to Congress that angered Mr. Trump, who complained that Democrats would use it against him.
> 
> The day after the Feb. 13 briefing to lawmakers, Mr. Trump berated Joseph Maguire, the outgoing acting director of national intelligence, for allowing it to take place, people familiar with the exchange said. Mr. Trump cited the presence in the briefing of Representative Adam B. Schiff, the California Democrat who led the impeachment proceedings against him, as a particular irritant.


[21-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, half the problem with Trump and the congressmen who collaborate with him on things is that they defy basic ideas of rule of law


[21-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav Trump using his personal lawyer to direct policy, without basic accountability mechanisms, and directly calling up congressmen to arrange bribes.


[21-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there's no reason to believe this will stop without Trump in office, either.


[21-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of the Republicans Bernie has fought in Congress were later found to be taking bribes.


[21-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've been pulling this shit before Trump, they will keep trying after.


[21-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but here's another question. Should Bernie win the nomination but still losses in a close race with Trump what then?


[21-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that happens, the system is beyond fukked, and Trump just goes about destroying the last vestiges of Democracy.


[21-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it would mean the only option is dictatorship by Trump's family.


[21-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
tbh if hillary can get more votes than trump, bernie can get waaaay more


[21-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
both hillary and trump are unlikeable shitstains


[21-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure how much he can arrange in another 4 years, but you can almost bet that short of Dems managing to remove via impeachment, he would set something up to rig the DNC


[21-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

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America’s Most and Least Popular Senators — January 2019
As the 115th Congress came to a close, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was dethroned from his perch as America’s least popular senator – a first in Morning Consult polling.
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[21-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that bernie is the most popular politician in the country


[21-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause do remember, the whole impeachment was about him trying to rig things against Joe Biden specifically, which only took several months of prep work.


[21-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in 4 years, it's not unreasonable that he could actually rig things to where the Republicans control the DNC and thus can set it up with whichever nominee they want.


[21-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it'd be like, Bloomberg vs. Kushner


[21-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Bloomberg golfing with Trump in between Dem debates that are complete shams.


[21-Feb-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder does Trumps descendents even care about the Christain Right


[21-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, it's very unlikely Bernie would lose to Trump


[21-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most popular politician vs. one of the least


[21-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Squeaky clean honest guy vs liar


[21-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Honahue#0656
Bloomberg is confirmation that being a billionaire rots your brain, he spent like 300 million dollars to get kicked in the nuts last night on TV


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Couldn't spend one million on a debate coach?


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would hav to get creative to even try to smear Bernie


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
idk what he expected, maybe he's too used to being surrouned by bootlickers willing to kowtow to him for a chance at a bit more money


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, these people tend to just believe they're always right


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All he does is call him crazy


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg supported Stop and Frisk until **last month**


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was told it's unconstitutional YEARS ago.


[21-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
any dem saying that Trump will call Bernie a communist is missing the fact that Trump will call anyone a communist it doesn't matter what their policy position is


[21-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of the problem Republicans hav now


[21-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
they've spent so long screaming SOCIALISM that when an actual Dem literally advocates it, people don't think it's any worse.


[21-Feb-20 01:23 AM] jlun2#8758
Immortal, Unkillable Christian Right


[21-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If everyone thinks Democrats are pushing socialism as a whole, it's no longer a downside to literally say you want it.


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they played the red scare so much it;s stopped being red and scary


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News will hav to like, spend an hour explaining why they were wrong in the past about Obama being socialist, and that Bernie is


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
but its viewers can't pay attention a whole hour.


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
COMMUNISTS ARE COMING FOR YOUR CHILDRENZZZZZ


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/20/elizabeth-warren-reverses-her-position-on-super-pac-support.html

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren reversed her position on rejecting super PAC support as she seeks a comeback in the Democratic presidential primary.
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[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
she's sold her soul


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
for money


[21-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
💸


[21-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Republican proceeds to not do anything but clutch gun harder


[21-Feb-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who could have seen this coming


[21-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's trying to play both sides.


[21-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the hopes that people jump ship from Bloomberg to her fearing Bernie.


[21-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren's strategy is basically "you pikk anyone else and you are screwed" told to everyone in every part of politics.


[21-Feb-20 01:26 AM] jlun2#8758
why does it seem like there's an infinite amount of gun nuts in america


[21-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's basically the Hillary strategy, and it does work, for the most part


[21-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
trouble is, she's now doing it against Bernie who's been screwed in a previous round


[21-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Warren ran in 2016, this could've worked now.


[21-Feb-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now Bernie has superior name recognition, and people are so fed up that they're not big on Hillary 2: Bernie Lite edition.


[21-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 racists with some money but in a rural area turn into them.


[21-Feb-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got bloomberg candidate junkmail today and it was basically a card trying to cash in on school shooting sympathy


[21-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guns aren't for protecting themselves from THE MAN, they're for shooting blakk people, and gov't troops that would force them to stop shooting blakk people.


[21-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, is Bloomberg even gonna show up to the next debate?


[21-Feb-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how that might go down


[21-Feb-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
kinda hoping he does


[21-Feb-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He already qualifies.


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doctored a moment of the debate too


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```Eric Alan Caldwell, head of city transport, lambasted "an 80 percent delinquency rate" in complying with traffic and safety regulations.```


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly the experiment was set up for the failure from the get-go, cause the rules were antiquated and prohibited the possibility of success


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
yay


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean? He put out an edited version?


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
where is that quote from?


[21-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
which article


[21-Feb-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
oh, is that the scooter thing?


[21-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-20/usc-financial-aid-expansion-free-tuition-families-home-equity

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USC offers free tuition to families making under $80,000 and a brea...
The school estimates that one-third of freshmen will benefit from the new rules, which take effect beginning in the fall of 2020.
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[21-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
(University of Southern California)


[21-Feb-20 01:37 AM] jlun2#8758
given that that's the school for the college scandal, I get the feeling this would probably be given to mostly white men


[21-Feb-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/20/mike-bloomberg-debate-video-facebook-twitter-instagram

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Bloomberg debate video sparks new concern over social media disinfo...
‘Tongue-in-cheek’ clip falsely suggesting candidate silenced his rivals will not be removed from Instagram
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[21-Feb-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please clap


[21-Feb-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
FREE SPEECH HUR HUR HUR


[21-Feb-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
wouldn't bernie be where biden is


[21-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Klob where Bernie is, yeah


[21-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't watch the debate though, so all I know is that warren destroyed him and bernie followed up


[21-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie lubed up his asshole


[21-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren put a sword thru it and out his chest


[21-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie and Biden then handed him a shovel while Warren told him to dig his own grave


[21-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klob and Pete just egged them on as he readily dug it and jumped in with Warren piling on rokks and Bernie and Biden putting a layer of soil overtop.


[21-Feb-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then for good measure they scorched earthed him


[21-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden salted the earth with urine


[21-Feb-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was amazingly satisfying to watch


[21-Feb-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie spat on the grave and destroyed markers to show where it was.


[21-Feb-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow "Destroyed" is far too soft a word here.


[21-Feb-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obliterated is closer but not strong enough


[21-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was like a post from r/instantkarma spread into a few 1 minute chunks across 2 hours.


[21-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren used his past statements to roast him hard and demand he release women from NDAs that he sexually harassed.


[21-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
His defense made the crowd boo him.


[21-Feb-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
afterwards, the NDAs leaked online


[21-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then when he argued Tu Quoque and Argumentum Ad Populum for Stop and Frisk, Biden called him a liar, saying he personally sent people to New York to put a stop to that bullshit.


[21-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear here


[21-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg's argument for Stop and Frisk


[21-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
was


[21-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
"It's what all police dept.s do, we just did it too much"


[21-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said that like three times over


[21-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a bit of "it was unfair to target me doing it in particular" thrown in (that's the Tu Quoque)


[21-Feb-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg was basically saying that unconstitutional racist practices by the police are okay because "ACAB anyways, why stop them?"


[21-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
At one point, Bloomberg defended "earning" his wealth


[21-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie kindly asked him to credit the workers who really made that wealth.


[21-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
To put it simply, MSNBC. *MSNBC* was saying that Bloomberg's debate performance could be at best described as "sat apart", but more likely was "the most expensive loss in Vegas history"


[21-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
**CNN** was saying Bernie won the debate.


[21-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
are there any clips of him being booed


[21-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren has basically set fire to the whole moderate establishment.


[21-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
I checked youtube, but only seeing stuff mentioning it


[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Treascair#7785
I saw someone basically sum last night up with a Pirates of the Carribean gif.  "You are a *thief* and a *LIAR!*"


[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzFTDVm3j7Q

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Warren Destroys Bloomberg Over Company's Sexual Harassment Allegati...
'This is not just a question of the mayor's character, this is also a question about electability' — Sen. Warren eviscerated Michael Bloomberg at the Nevada Democratic debate over allegations of sexual harassment at his companies.
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[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Search for Bloomberg's defense of NDAs


[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
this is the closest I've found so far


[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was seeing people sum it up with clips of Daenerys as Warren.


[21-Feb-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, I think not many shared clips of Bloomberg's ranting, horrid defense.


[21-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went on for like 2 minutes about how those NDAs were "consensual"


[21-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
> Bloomberg looks like a sadder version of George W. Bush


[21-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of the creepiest things I've ever seen on TV


[21-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Treascair#7785
"He went on for like 2 minutes about how those NDAs were "consensual""
Yes, because when you have all the power to make sure they stay employed, they're 'consensual', uh-huh...


[21-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, the NDAs were about sexual harrassment


[21-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The word "consensual" is no accident...he was trying to flip things into saying women were totally okay with him like, grabbing their asses and calling them lesbian hores.


[21-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a way that only made it sound rapier to anyone with a brain not rotted by Boomerism.


[21-Feb-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/warren-says-bloomberg-muzzled-women-with-ndas-79053381927

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https://www.nbcnews.com/video/warren-says-bloomberg-muzzled-women-with-ndas-79053381927
Watch Bloomberg defend NDAs as debate audience groans
In a heated moment, Senator Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., attacked former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg over his company's private non-disclosure agreements with past female employees.
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[21-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note right away the audience is not happy with him saying it was only about jokes he told


[21-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457

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[21-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51571177

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Has Germany done enough to tackle far-right violence?
The Hanau crime fuels fears that Germany has underestimated the far-right terror threat.
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[21-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
confirmed far-right mass shooting in germany


[21-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
another one for the list


[21-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/621944162576498689/terrorist_attacks.png

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[21-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/680220975752544279/image0.png

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[21-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
is that trump


[21-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like trump


[21-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[21-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/20/21145698/google-student-privacy-lawsuit-education-schools-chromebooks-new-mexico-balderas

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Google sued by New Mexico attorney general for collecting student d...
The New Mexico attorney general is taking on Google with a lawsuit claiming it violates students’ privacy.
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[21-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
> Google is facing a new lawsuit filed by the state of New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas on Thursday, alleging the company violates the privacy of students who use free Chromebooks provided to schools through the company’s G Suite for Education platform.


[21-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>free Chromebooks


[21-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao what did they think the price was


[21-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They don't want your money. Your information makes more.


[21-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/vt7j7dk9b1i41.jpg

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[21-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-bring-back-death-penalty-john-hayes-lincolnshire-capital-punishment-a8615731.html

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Tory MP asks government to consider bringing back death penalty
Former minister John Hayes urges justice secretary to consider ‘potential merits’ of hanging violent criminals
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[21-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause everyone sure misses how much the poor got fukked in Victorian times.


[21-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally had people become police so they could make others get hung for their crimes.


[21-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
there should be a british revolution


[21-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I've heard you mention Tim Pool before. What exactly is he? I've had a guy suggest him to me as a 'better than ABC' (whatever that means) news source, on... basicly bernie bros thing again. Bernie is unfit and senile, supports gulags, because his 'staffer'(whatever _that_ means) apparently said something edgy on facebook...? :squintyjack:  I admit, I didn't really get past first 30 seconds so I'm not sure.


[21-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
broadcasting a Project Veritas report, apparently.


[21-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
what are those two entities?


[21-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
search indicates Psker likes the first one a lot, it seems.


[21-Feb-20 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a reactionary news reader on youtube who omits parts of articles, uses reactionary language and uses misleading headlines to get a rise out of people


[21-Feb-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his purpose is to spread misinformation to own the libs


[21-Feb-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's the same kind of youtuber as sargon of akkad


[21-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
and 'Project Veritas'?


[21-Feb-20 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Project Veritas is an American Right-wing activist group. The group uses "disguises and hidden cameras to uncover supposed liberal bias and corruption". The group is known for producing deceptively edited videos about media organizations and left-leaning groups.


[21-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
so him platforming them is a double negative that does not, in fact, makes a positive. Nice.


[21-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
and browsing through his stuff, I've noticed he does that a lot.


[21-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I like Tim Pool as he usually was fairly moderate. he was best when it came to on the ground reporting where he did interviews and caught things live in the act. sadly in recent years after several close calls while on the ground in volatile situations he's opted to change his format to be more about reading the news and sharing his interpretation of them. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pool

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Tim Pool
Timothy Daniel Pool (born March 9, 1986) is an American journalist, YouTuber, and political commentator. He first became known for live streaming the Occupy Wall Street protests in 2011.
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[21-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i kinda hope he goes back to on the ground reporting myself. as that is what he was best at.


[21-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like a sellout situation. Realized he could make more money per effort by just regurgitating news using tactics he learned from other journalists with clikkbait etc.


[21-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
actually its more that he nearly got attacked few times and several people that did associate with him got attacked as well.


[21-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but yeah he did say funding these on the ground reporting trips are expensive and so reading the news and sharing his thoughts is to help fund those.


[21-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I know he's recently gotten a mobile studio assembled.


[21-Feb-20 04:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so he can record, edit, and conduct other stuff on the go.


[21-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Getting attakked wouldn't preclude a position reporting just slightly further away from things. Outright switching to a YT talking head is a move that has to require other reasons too.


[21-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie what's your take on both of those? Pretty much what Intexda said?


[21-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html

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By Adam Goldman, Julian E. Barnes, Maggie Haberman and Nicholas Fandos
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html
Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump
A classified briefing to House members is said to have angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/20/us/politics/20dc-intel/20dc-intel-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[21-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent I would add that with the Planned Parenthood thing, Project Veritas got no admissions of wrongdoing, yet insisted that basic statements about doing correct things WAS wrongdoing, and then Republican congressmen latched onto that, demanding investigations.


[21-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Project Veritas is basically just a misinformation arm of the Republican party, which tries to collect out of context statements to fabricate wrongdoing where none exists.


[21-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you catch an employee on video with leading/trikk questions and when he can't immediately explain literally everything, you GOTTEM, OWNED DA LIBZ.


[21-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Opponent#3498
right. I kind of got that vibe off the two videos that was linked to me. At least the guy had the decency to lead with '_if_ what they discovered is true'.


[21-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, his opinion of Bernie in general is 'anti-gun authoritarian douchebag', and the anti-gun is the driving issue for his vote. So these videos were offered largely as flavour.


[21-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling Bernie of all the candidates authoritarian is hilarious.


[21-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is the only candidate on either side who actually believes that the federal gov't should stop enforcing the will of the rich on the poor.


[21-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he regularly puts things in bills to giv people a voice against the gov't.


[21-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
left ~= communist ~= authoritarian. I don't think he dug too deep.


[21-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[21-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah.


[21-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is the kind of guy who would make you get a license for your gun that says you hav to be mentally capable and exercise good caution about it.


[21-Feb-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas Pete etc. would just take it.


[21-Feb-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Trump would take it if you're blakk.


[21-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
bernie would also offer cheap mental healthcare so that people who don't currently qualify for that license can qualify later


[21-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, it would allow for reevaluations.


[21-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, he'd disarm far-right incel nuts.


[21-Feb-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
> but suppose said investigation finds that mitch committed no crimes.


[21-Feb-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
innocent until proven guilty


[21-Feb-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
an investigation cannot find innocence, only failure to find guilt


[21-Feb-20 08:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4912baca0c4cbc6cb7a3580f4f3c9b96

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Intel officials say Russia boosting Trump candidacy
WASHINGTON (AP) — Intelligence officials have warned lawmakers that Russia is interfering in the 2020 election campaign to help President Donald Trump get reelected, three officials familiar with...
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[21-Feb-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
he's sown so much chaos, it's absolutely in their best interest, yeah.


[21-Feb-20 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
that doesn't mean they cooperate, or they did before btw. I think he was so against being associated with russians circa '16 cause it hurt his self-image of the most legitimate president in the face of the universe.


[21-Feb-20 08:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/b08c8aec116d2d19b8a3a47e4669b52c

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Trump makes unconventional pick to oversee 'deep state'
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has made an unconventional pick to oversee America’s spy agencies: an unusually undiplomatic ambassador who has had little intelligence...
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[21-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
pick a loyal yes-man to force the annoying haters shut up once and for all, and stall them indefinitely.


[21-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
very predictable move.


[21-Feb-20 08:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most GOP officials are working with russia and several of them have admitted as much


[21-Feb-20 08:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell is directly funded by a russian oligarch firm


[21-Feb-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee guess who just denied several new security bills


[21-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
well in that case, yeah. The former point stands, he is their best friend in US right now.


[21-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
he's poiking at Iran, Iran begs Russia to sell more crap.


[21-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
etc


[21-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that whole Iran thing, it reminds me of Ukraine at '14


[21-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
people generally hated the idea of cooperating with NATO until Russia invaded.


[21-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Opponent#3498
while that was likely unintentional,  the Iran thing likely is.


[21-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine if pre-Trump Russia-Iran relationship was akin to China-NK. Allies, but it's not that simple.


[21-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Opponent#3498
well now it's simple enough.


[21-Feb-20 08:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/mulvaney-admits-republicans-hypocrites-cutting-federal-deficit-trump-debt-2020-2-1028924786

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Trump's chief of staff Mick Mulvaney just admitted Republicans are ...
Trump's White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted in a speech overseas that Republicans were hypocrites on the deficit. The Washington P...
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[21-Feb-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's chief of staff Mick Mulvaney just admitted Republicans are total hypocrites on cutting the federal deficit


[21-Feb-20 08:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably gonna backtrack on this later


[21-Feb-20 08:50 AM] Opponent#3498
like on everything else.


[21-Feb-20 08:51 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't matter when you trained your voter base on 'number big life good' and an attention span measured in minutes.


[21-Feb-20 08:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-mick-mulvaney-us-desperate-more-immigrants-economy-crackdown-2020-2-1028925705

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Trump's chief of staff reportedly said the US is 'desperate' for mo...
Trump's acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said the US is 'desperate' for more legal immigrants to sustain the nation's economic growth, accord...
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[21-Feb-20 08:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-roger-stone-has-a-very-good-chance-of-exoneration-2020-2

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Trump says Roger Stone 'has a very good chance of exoneration' afte...
"Everybody knows him," Trump said of his former adviser. "And most people like him. Some people probably don't. But I do."
https://i.insider.com/5e4eee02a27fc5312b57f223?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Feb-20 08:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-testing-feature-where-users-help-flag-politicians-lies-2020-2

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Twitter is testing a system that lets users label false or misleadi...
Twitter's testing a feature that would display bright bubbles below content flagged as misleading by users and weight votes based on a points system.
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[21-Feb-20 08:55 AM] Opponent#3498
```"We are desperate - desperate - for more people. We are running out of people to fuel the economic growth that we've had in our nation over the last four years."```


[21-Feb-20 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
given that the economic growth itself is largely a numbermongering and not any actual improvement in any field, I'm not sure how does this work.


[21-Feb-20 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
seems genuinly fake news, unfortunately.


[21-Feb-20 08:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically put the GOP needs people to exploit for economic growth after starving the actual citizens of the US economically, but less immigrants are now showing up and trump's border camps are fucking that shit up


[21-Feb-20 08:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also less rich immigrants are coming over because america is a shit hole country that would be bad for their business, and because Trump might tariff their asses


[21-Feb-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stats are one thing, but america is literally on the verge of an economic crash because our current model is unsustainable and burning through resources


[21-Feb-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump is speeding that the fuck up


[21-Feb-20 09:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-us-economy-despite-administrations

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Immigrants Contribute Greatly to U.S. Economy, Despite Administrati...
The Department of Homeland Security’s recently finalized “public charge” rule directs immigration officials to reject applications from individuals who seek to remain in or enter the U.S. lawfully if they have received — or are judged more likely than not to receive in the fut...
https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/istock_000017612882_large.jpg


[21-Feb-20 09:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no/

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Undocumented immigrants quietly pay billions into Social Security a...
How much? About $13 billion in 2016.
https://www.marketplace.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/GettyImages-52182071-1.jpg?w=1200


[21-Feb-20 09:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2018/8/1/17561014/immigration-social-security

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Why baby boomers need immigrants to fund their retirement, in 2 charts
The Trump administration’s immigration policies will hurt elderly Americans.
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[21-Feb-20 09:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
immigrants get shit funded and keep the population going at a decent level.


[21-Feb-20 09:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
however when you send ICE to fuck up the immigrant population, you lose the immigrant boost because now all of them are either in camps or deported


[21-Feb-20 09:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is also in a population decline because stressful working conditions tend to not yield babies well because everyone is too busy working to survive to have babies


[21-Feb-20 09:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those that do have babies are struggling to survive as well


[21-Feb-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The GOP is also worried about the economy crashing because that would fuck over Trump's ability to get re-elected


[21-Feb-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps entire campaign hinges on the economy holding up this year


[21-Feb-20 09:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and it hinges on the DNC being a stubborn baby and sabotaging itself to keep it;s investors happy


[21-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-anger-cost-joseph-maguire-job-director-national-intelligence-n1140086

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Trump angry after House briefed on Russia meddling in 2020 election...
The briefing cost the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, his job, a former intelligence official said.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_39/2965361/190809-joseph-maguire-al-0728_5afc49f4f85d91c097989a0141a50df2.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[21-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's been linked like 5 times lol, it's pretty damning


[21-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
basically no one who pays any attention would think that trump is fit for office anymore


[21-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Crow#5457
unless they're so invested in trump that they have everything to lose if trump doesn't get re-elected


[21-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP doesn't care


[21-Feb-20 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/overnights/483974-overnight-energy-epa-will-regulate-forever-chemicals-in

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Overnight Energy: EPA to regulate 'forever chemicals' in drinking w...
EPA WILL REGULATE FOREVER CHEMICALS: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on Thursday announced it would regulate "forever chemicals" that have been leaching into the water supply in cities across the country.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/epaenvironmentalprotectionagency2_021820getty.jpg


[21-Feb-20 11:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several articles in 1


[21-Feb-20 12:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51580925

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Cyber-attack hits US Department of Defence agency
The personal data of about 200,000 people is exposed in a cyber-attack.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/1385/production/_110979940_gettyimages-802042462.jpg


[21-Feb-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and nothing of value was done about it


[21-Feb-20 02:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/680399320155029568/image0.jpg

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[21-Feb-20 02:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Okay, this is epic


[21-Feb-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
well it's not like _you_ can sell your data, at least not with any meaningful result.


[21-Feb-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's like w/e


[21-Feb-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't profit off your work, any individual impact is beyond insignificant so it's not like they can share either.


[21-Feb-20 02:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's definitely not how it works. Think about video content on the platform


[21-Feb-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
besides 'muh zukk electing trump, killing democracy', which usually just means that what people want to see is 'muh zukk electing sanders', I can't think of many reasonable arguments.


[21-Feb-20 02:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sure, their TOS says you still own it, but


[21-Feb-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but Youtube et al isn't what people talk about when they say 'IT companies sell your data'


[21-Feb-20 02:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm still talking about Twitter


[21-Feb-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. Do you not own your Twitter content, then?


[21-Feb-20 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you link a video there, that post becomes a hotspot for the Algorithm to associate anyone who interacts with it


[21-Feb-20 02:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And on a platform where a single post could get anywhere between a hundred to a couple million impressions, that's a *lot* of data


[21-Feb-20 02:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
iow, individual impact is only insignificant if *you're* insignificant


[21-Feb-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
still, the content itself isn't tampered with in any way. Not sure exactly if you get to edit or delete it on demand, but I would imagine yes. I imagine you also retain the legal ownership of it as well (although in practice, parody is such a broad term that it becomes unenforceable)


[21-Feb-20 02:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just look at how quickly the troll farms built up their following


[21-Feb-20 02:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
My point isn't the content of the video itself. My point is, by putting *any* kind of content on the platform, regardless of what it is, you've created a beacon for collecting data on other users


[21-Feb-20 02:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, given how frequently the video posted wasn't even created by the person posting it...


[21-Feb-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I've yet to see any mediaspace-'significant' people complain about it, so they're right out. The consumers of their content might be getting a short end of the stick, but such is the way of consumer.


[21-Feb-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[21-Feb-20 02:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Online data only has the value it has when added to a whole mass. Your individual data is near useless. But when aggregated with a whole bunch of data points to try and build models it becomes enormously valuable.


[21-Feb-20 02:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
That said if a way was found to make social media pay for people's share of data they may try to offset lost income by instituting a premium feature for their sites. So we really have to ask what role and purpose social networking does have


[21-Feb-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah and while it doesn't mean a whole lot, I've been sitting here for 20 minutes trying to formulate it and I can't.


[21-Feb-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
at least on how to quantify it.


[21-Feb-20 02:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly you probably can't accurately put a dollar sign on it. A lot of it is built on speculation and basically auctioning it off. So it's not a fixed value. I've heard it talked about how no one really knows how well it works. I think people are just running off of the idea that of marketing can raise sales by a third or three times (it's been a while since I took a marketing class so I don't know what the statistics are or even where to find them if they exist) then you gotta try. So people dish out for what may be an unknown variable of Facebook or Twitter advertising, they just know that they own the audience


[21-Feb-20 02:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly when the right bitches about nationalizing Facebook to Twitter they are onto something. Less in the area that they can use nationalization to work their way around the sites being a private medium and thus they have the right to be banned from it for being fascist, but that in the end both sites are like public parks but the trees replaced with billboards.


[21-Feb-20 03:04 PM] jlun2#8758
Curiously I never get ads relevant to me whatsoever; most of my knowledge of new game releases for instance was because a twitter I follow posted porn of it, or people on discord channels mentioned it.


[21-Feb-20 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
use an ad blocker everywhere


[21-Feb-20 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
do not let yourself get taken advantage of, and never disable it


[21-Feb-20 03:05 PM] byte[]#2610
if a site forces you to disable it, get an AAK or leave


[21-Feb-20 03:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-21/donald-trump-youtube-ads-will-dominate-election-day

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[21-Feb-20 03:13 PM] byte[]#2610
too little too late


[21-Feb-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
he's going to get absolutely overwhelmed by everyone who's tired of his shit


[21-Feb-20 03:14 PM] illumnious#7938
Crap


[21-Feb-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not a smart move.


[21-Feb-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
'number big life good' cult worships him no matter what, all those adds do is remind everyone else why they hate him


[21-Feb-20 03:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/waeXBCUkuL8

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waeXBCUkuL8
Bernie Sanders' accent, explained
Bernie Sanders' accent, explained

Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO

Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump both speak with a New York City accent. And Queens College linguist Michael Newman thinks it might be good for their brand. Writing in the New York Times, he said...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/waeXBCUkuL8/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Feb-20 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
wow. They actually found something to latch onto.


[21-Feb-20 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
:hopeless:


[21-Feb-20 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1230674301038321665

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https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1230674301038321665
Mike Bloomberg can easily release the women who have accused him of sexual harassment—and who voluntarily want to speak about their experiences—from their non-disclosure agreements. Take a look at how simple and straightforward it would be:
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[21-Feb-20 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ican tell you whats up with his accent, he;s from fucking ~~vermont~~ New York City


[21-Feb-20 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mystery solved


[21-Feb-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:caddy:


[21-Feb-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, NYC


[21-Feb-20 06:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:trixdisgust:

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[21-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe United Kingdom is part of America now


[21-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1230043859167666176


[21-Feb-20 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[21-Feb-20 07:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-president-donald-trump-will-talk-trade-with-pm-modi-india-hitting-us-hard-for-many-years-2183710

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India Has Been "Hitting Us Very Hard For Many Years": Trump On Tariffs
India has been hitting the US "very hard" on trade with high tariffs for many years, Donald Trump complained ahead of his first visit to the country during which the President said he will "talk business" with Prime Minister Narendra Modi to promote American products.
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2020-01/vmosbodk_donald-trump-reuters_625x300_15_January_20.jpg


[21-Feb-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, we're back onnn tariffs


[21-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wailing on China while the virus is going on looks bad, gotta find some other country to blame everything on


[21-Feb-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg is mail spamming and it just keeps coming


[21-Feb-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s one thing for like 1 or 2 political junk mail pieces froma  candidate but we've been getting bloomberg for a week straight


[21-Feb-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'd think for a billionair he;d also go for fancier advertising like some bribe gifts, but nope. it;s all pamphlets and post cards


[21-Feb-20 09:07 PM] Opponent#3498
pffft bribe gifts, if only


[21-Feb-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt vote for him but it would still be better than a dozenn postcards a week


[21-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
with a large enough gift I'd vote for him, sure.


[21-Feb-20 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
would still urge anyone I'd ever speak to to vote Bernie though.


[21-Feb-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a fruit basket at least


[21-Feb-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i didnt hate him already, i;d hate him for the sheer wastefulness of his mail adverts

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[21-Feb-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing that could make me dislike him more is if his campaign started call spamming


[21-Feb-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i cram my campaign down america's throat, they'll love me more!"


[21-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what has driven Trump to buy out youtube's front I imagine.


[21-Feb-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484037-trump-dismisses-reports-about-russian-meddling-labels-them-democratic

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Trump dismisses reports of Russian meddling, labels them Democratic...
President Trump on Friday asserted that Democrats were behind recent news reports that intelligence officials informed Congress of Russian interference in the 2020 race to help his reelection, with the president dubbing it a “misinformation campai
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_021920getty.jpg


[21-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/484106-former-goldman-sachs-chief-itd-be-harder-to-vote-for-bernie-than-for-trump

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Former Goldman Sachs chief: It would be 'harder to vote for Bernie ...
Former Goldman Sachs chief executive Lloyd Blankfein said he may vote for President Trump over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) if the progressive firebrand wins the party’s 2020 presidential nomination.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/blankfeinlloyd06012017getty.jpg


[21-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like free advertising


[21-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Billionnaire tears.


[21-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/earlbrowncarguy/status/1230674704706355200

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https://twitter.com/earlbrowncarguy/status/1230674704706355200
@ewarren RUSSIA IS WORKING RIGHT NOW TO MAKE BERNIE THE NOMINEE AND YOU’RE ONLY FOCUSING ON BLOOMBERG WHOS ALREADY VOWED TO HELP THE WINNER.
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[21-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
what


[21-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg would help Trump over Bernie.


[21-Feb-20 10:31 PM] jlun2#8758
cant wait for a bunch of lifelong democrats to turn trump then


[21-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political suicide.


[21-Feb-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad is a bloomberg supporter because "You have to understand the reality of it"


[21-Feb-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in reality he;s afraid to back bernie because McGovern, whom he supported and worked for a long ass time ago lost to nixon


[21-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie's McGovern, except McGovern would win if he ran now


[21-Feb-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has been a staunch centrist ever since because why fight the flow of lesser evil


[21-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Acid, amnesty, and abortion" is basically what Bernie is running on


[21-Feb-20 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except that doesn't scare people anymore


[21-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/680528752169451654/Screenshot_20200221-163739.png

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[21-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
do people actually believe this shit?


[21-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
'making over 29k a year'?


[21-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
citation needed xD


[21-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Indeed, it's bullshit


[21-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem is most people don't watch debates, read news, or research


[21-Feb-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
> 52%


[21-Feb-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah no


[21-Feb-20 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
52% is what he wants to tax people making over $10 million a year


[21-Feb-20 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that part looks legit.


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, $7.20 is like


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
isn't that close to the actual minimum wage now?


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which you still get taxed on


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
this would actually STILL be a net increase for minimum wage workers


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how bullshit the current system is.


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
oh right. I didn't realise.


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The worst misrepresentation of Bernie's policies as not helpful is still an improvement lol


[21-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
damn. It just gets better xD


[21-Feb-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
hope ppl vote tommorrow


[21-Feb-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
instead of just "i voted on some online poll"


[21-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://morningconsult.com/2020/02/21/michael-bloomberg-polling-post-debate-las-vegas/

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https://morningconsult.com/2020/02/21/michael-bloomberg-polling-post-debate-las-vegas/
Bloomberg Loses Ground Following Debate Debut in Las Vegas
A series of sustained attacks on former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg during Wednesday’s presidential debate in Las Vegas has dented his standing with Democratic primary voters, blunting the billionaire’s momentum and dropping him below former Vice President Joe Biden ...
https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Bloomberg-GettyImages-1207410598.jpg


[21-Feb-20 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/18/18-60081-CV1.pdf


[21-Feb-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet bloomberg is going to convince the dnc to change the super delegates rule again


[21-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
from what it looks like, apparently there was an incoherent dude who was walking down a highway and kept pointing west, police responded but let him go, even though he was obviously out of it and it was nearly night and would be almost impossible to see the dude


[21-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
and he got hit by a car and died


[21-Feb-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's about the gist of it


[21-Feb-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-hollowed-out-us-national-security-vacancies-acting

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How Trump Hollowed Out US National Security
Acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell is just the latest in a cascade of temporary or vacant personnel in critical government positions.
https://media.wired.com/photos/5e4ffdc5903506000820ea86/191:100/w_1280,c_limit/Security_RichardGrenell_1046104636.jpg


[21-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
better question would be, is there anything left.


[21-Feb-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope, just scared and loyal yes-men


[21-Feb-20 11:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the House Intelligence Committee chair


[21-Feb-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump strikes me as the kind of guy who would create a national tragedy just to have an excuse to blame someone else


[21-Feb-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*has


[21-Feb-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*multiple* times


[21-Feb-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he already did?


[21-Feb-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking something akin to 9/11


[21-Feb-20 11:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Do a majority of Americans know about European healthcare, or are they mostly ignorant and think Spain is in Mexico and that America's healthcare system is #1 with EU as 3rd world?


[21-Feb-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most americans are sheltered by the american education system


[21-Feb-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the american education system doesnt teach about european healthcare


[21-Feb-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A majority of americans don't even understand their own healthcare system, let alone anyone else's


[21-Feb-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much less our own healthcare


[21-Feb-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, ask anyone about what medicaid is, I guarantee you at least 9 times out of 10 you're not going to get an accurate answer


[21-Feb-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad's arguement against medicare for all is "But more well off people would lsoe the insurance thye love"


[21-Feb-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Not everyone is as bad off as us"


[21-Feb-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is a really bad argument


[21-Feb-20 11:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) is he one of those boomers who never been to college or any post secondary yet became successful due to "hard work"


[21-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
judging by context, I don't think he became successful.


[21-Feb-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s one of those centrists who is afraid to get burned because he backed a losing candidate to nixon


[21-Feb-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s been voting the lesser evil ever since and uses "reality" as an excuse


[21-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
I understand where he's coming from.


[21-Feb-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he backs bloomberg because of the whole "money makes power=reality" belief


[21-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it's true.


[21-Feb-20 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
and without Bernie on the scene, you could throw a coin flip twice and vote for any of the other 4 candidates


[21-Feb-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true but that bloomberg has more money than trump but that;s all he has over trump


[21-Feb-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has more energy, presence, and dirt


[21-Feb-20 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well I wouldn't expect Bloomberg to hand over US to Russia


[21-Feb-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true buthe wouldnt win either


[21-Feb-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
fair.


[21-Feb-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump could trounce bloomberg using ther very arguments every other democrat used in that debate


[21-Feb-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his followers wouldnt give a fuck how hypocritical he is


[21-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is also literal friends with bloomberg


[21-Feb-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention bloomberg went too hard on the advertising


[21-Feb-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are going to get sick of his constant mail/call/email/tv spam


[21-Feb-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his political ads also use all the corporate bullshit everyone hates about ads these days


[21-Feb-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fake appeal to emotion, music that means nothing, hollow phrases


[21-Feb-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know how trump advertises? he just walks onto fox news once a week


[21-Feb-20 11:38 PM] jlun2#8758
isn't what bloomberg is doing boomer bait


[21-Feb-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[21-Feb-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his ads are the political equivalent of bp putting out the "We're sorry" ads


[21-Feb-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are entirely boomer/corporate baiting


[21-Feb-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI

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Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul
In this video I explore how corporatism produces soulless music, some of which is amusingly awful! I also explore how tech and oil companies with dubious business practices use music as part of propaganda campaigns to convince the public that they support ecological activism. ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AIxY_Y9TGWI/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Feb-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically applied this to political ads


[21-Feb-20 11:45 PM] jlun2#8758
AI generated music makes them go :nut:


[21-Feb-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.diariodocentrodomundo.com.br/2video-cid-gomes-enfrenta-policiais-com-trator-e-e-baleado-em-sobral/

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https://www.diariodocentrodomundo.com.br/2video-cid-gomes-enfrenta-policiais-com-trator-e-e-baleado-em-sobral/
VÍDEO: Cid Gomes enfrenta policiais com trator e é baleado em Sobral
MEU DEUS O CID GOMES derrubando um portão com um trator e levando um tiro de bala de borracha puta merda oq tá acontecendo com Sobral hj pic.twitter.com/UilElLhoY8 — jessica only child illinois chicago (@lirouigor) February 19, 2020 O senador Cid Gomes estava em Sobral (CE) ne...
https://www.diariodocentrodomundo.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/cid-gomes.jpg


[21-Feb-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian leftist politician Cid Gomes confronts striking cops who were acting thuggish (allegedly in unison with organized crime) with a fucking tractor, gets shot

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[21-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love when people got shot in movies in the shoulder and they're like "It's ok, the bullet went through"


[21-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's like, sure, through your fucking shoulder plate


[21-Feb-20 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gomes later on recovered, says he felt nothing as he got shot in the incident


[21-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Enjoy shattered bone shredding the arteries and veins feeding your arm


[21-Feb-20 11:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Not shot but I remember getting stabbed in my arm. The wound did not feel as bad as the knife moving around. I imagine shattered bone would be like lots of little knives.


[22-Feb-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders odds for majority back up <https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/>


[22-Feb-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
nevada (tomorrow) is likely to be a sanders blowout


[22-Feb-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
super tuesday is likely to also be a sanders blowout


[22-Feb-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
then we shall see what the model thinks about a majority


[22-Feb-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
... the bloomberg icon looks like the clown from gumball

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[22-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
then they shuffle the count so it'll be 1 vote under the majority so that superdelegates come in


[22-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and everything is back to how it was meant to be :3


[22-Feb-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
andthen perez gets murdered violently


[22-Feb-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because democrats are sick of that bullshit


[22-Feb-20 12:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) too bad assassinations only occur for school bullies


[22-Feb-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not assassination, mob beating


[22-Feb-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
violent angry mob beating


[22-Feb-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
if sanders gets plurality but not majority, the democrats will nominate sanders or they will watch their party implode before their eyes


[22-Feb-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
if sanders doesn't get either then dunno


[22-Feb-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Feb-20 12:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> they will watch their party implode before their eyes
well they wont get taxed so totally worth it ofc


[22-Feb-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/02/21/the-republican-party-is-sending-misleading-census-forms-nationwide-including-in-florida-report/

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The Republican Party is sending 'deceptive’ census forms nationwide...
We obtained one. Take a look.
https://www.tampabay.com/resizer/ZAXEIn-4m-bzU1fD3lXkIUmi1qA=/800x450/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tbt.s3.amazonaws.com/public/G6QZ4TPKEJAGNPPJIHOVS3ODZ4.PNG


[22-Feb-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[22-Feb-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> Like the census, the piece of mail includes a survey. But unlike the official decennial questionnaire the federal government will soon send out to millions of Americans, this one is asking for donations to the GOP and a loyalty pledge to President Donald Trump. And it’s “Commissioned by the Republican Party,” according to the form, not the U.S. Department of Commerce.
arent republicans already diehard trump fans


[22-Feb-20 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you missed the point. This isn't trying to sway Republicans


[22-Feb-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is the RNC trying to trick people into thinking this is the obligatory census - and profiting from it in the process


[22-Feb-20 12:23 AM] jlun2#8758
ah


[22-Feb-20 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if it isn't, and it's just trying to look official by "coincidence," then what they're doing is trying to get ahead of the game for gerrymandering purposes


[22-Feb-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-diamond-princess-cruise-americans/2020/02/20/b6f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html
https://i.imgur.com/vP6C8V7.jpg
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[22-Feb-20 12:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
much easier to draw squiggly maps based on voter info if you're working from census data that asks for *detailed* voter information. The kind of questions that the SCOTUS would frown upon including in the official US census


[22-Feb-20 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I know what you're thinking: The RNC doesn't get to decide how voting districts are drawn up. But you really need to stop thinking of the Republican party as operating within the parameters of the government


[22-Feb-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The RNC will pass it onto republican lawmakers in each state, and they'll draw up the gerryrigging maps


[22-Feb-20 12:29 AM] jlun2#8758
unstoppable GOP


[22-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Opponent#3498
the joys of 'good faith' system.


[22-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
less a system of stops and counterweights, more a gentlmens' agreement.


[22-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
something that went quite out of style nowadays, or so it seems.


[22-Feb-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, it's more that gentleman's agreements are turning out to be the easiest way to hide corruption


[22-Feb-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Caucuses, like the Iowa caucus, or the electoral college, are *also* gentleman's agreements


[22-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Opponent#3498
no, this entire system was functioning because both sides agreed it should


[22-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Opponent#3498
'due process' worship is pure sham, as expected


[22-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and ultimately, might makes right.


[22-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Due process isn't gentlemen's agreements.


[22-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just a name for a lie told to people.


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gentlemen's agreements are informal things where you agree that there should not be a process, no paperwork, just favors behind everyone's bakks.


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Opponent#3498
a new iteration of 'justice system', designed to keep the peasants content


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are a common ideal among elites because it avoids damaging PR and thus making enemies.


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The justice system is not part of this.


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the antithesis of it.


[22-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges do not like things behind closed doors and not going thru the paperwork and process.


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gentlemen's agreements are intended to dodge the actual justice system.


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
well yeah. It doesn't seem like it's doing it's job anymore


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
so the time came to dispense with it.


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can only do its job if someone speaks up and breaks the gentlemen's agreements.


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
the job of keeping the peasants content, that is.


[22-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why in the 19th century it was common for judges not being able to do much of anything; people kept quiet.


[22-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
These days it's harder to hide, but in response, the rich and powerful amp up their game and try to manipulate justice system's rules so it can't actually go after them anymore.


[22-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, kinda what I was talking about.


[22-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Opponent#3498
the masquerade doesn't work so well now.


[22-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Opponent#3498
the time for it has passed.


[22-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Judges prefer alternate dispute resolution and settlement


[22-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges want arbitration.


[22-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[22-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just get it off the docket


[22-Feb-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like for people to mysteriously no longer be prosecuted.


[22-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm kinda curious what will come next. US pushed very hard to equate society's morals with the Law. Legal === just === good.


[22-Feb-20 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
now that the Law is no longer relevant, I wonder what comes next.


[22-Feb-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent significant push for bible before boomers die?


[22-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law almost always follows morals


[22-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it is just a matter of the opposite, morals following compliance with the law


[22-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Chinese "legalism" idea is that you set the law first and make morality all be about following it.


[22-Feb-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's copied from US. They just achived it differently.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Western idea is that you use the law more as a framework to put in place foundational morals so that following it naturally leads to moral things.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure if any western nation ever used it this way.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The breakdown is that the rich/powerful do not care about morals or the law


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure nobody ever did.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will fight any attempt to make them follow it, no matter what the society.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
nobody with any capacity to make a decision anyway.


[22-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people can be persuaded into following the law, and it does shape their behavior.


[22-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you craft it right, it will lead to punishing corruption etc.


[22-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich however will constantly poke holes.


[22-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so, back to the original point. Just a tool, to trick the weak into believing they have 'rights'. Which, in fairness, they do, until it's convenient to provide them.


[22-Feb-20 12:59 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mike2020/status/1230990526381465606

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[22-Feb-20 12:59 AM] ononim#8141
I love the people talking shit about him in the cyliric


[22-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao


[22-Feb-20 01:06 AM] ononim#8141
>Брат, ты только что запостил кринж


[22-Feb-20 01:06 AM] ononim#8141
ЛОЛ


[22-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What does the original tweet mean


[22-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Google Translate says "Feel Burn"


[22-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html


[22-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
> “I don’t care, frankly, who [Russian President Vladimir] Putin wants to be president,” Sanders said in a statement. “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do.


[22-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
how real politicians respond to russian help


[22-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
> Asked why the briefing was reported now, a month later, Sanders said: “I’ll let you guess about one day before the, the Nevada caucus. Why do you think it came out?”
> 
> Sanders pointed to a Post reporter and said sarcastically: “It was The Washington Post? Good friends.”


[22-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
there's a dude in the comments saying that bernie's one step away from calling the media fake news because of that line


[22-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got a reason to.


[22-Feb-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he's not president yet so he can say what he wants IMO.


[22-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
why would they break a story 1 month later when they had it 1 month ago?


[22-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484148-bloomberg-campaign-hits-sanders-over-russian-interference

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Bloomberg campaign hits Sanders over reported Russian interference
Michael Bloomberg’s campaign seized on reports that Russia has sought to interfere in the 2020 election to boost the campaigns of his Democratic presidential rival Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mreportbloomberg_1.jpg


[22-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russians aren't socialists now you brainlet


[22-Feb-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Feb-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
apparently russia might help trump make his own reichstag fire scenario in order to stay president in case he loses the election


[22-Feb-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
The GOP would probably back him all the way even if he loses


[22-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Midknight#9798
if they try it, they'll deserve the lead flying their way


[22-Feb-20 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
American Civil War so catastrophic that it crashes the entire economy and suddenly we are back to 18th century combat let's go


[22-Feb-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
I will assemble the greatest Tericos


[22-Feb-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/lindsey-grahams-new-bill-would-end-the-internet-as-we-know-it

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/lindsey-grahams-new-bill-would-end-the-internet-as-we-know-it
Lindsey Graham’s new bill would end the internet as we know it
If Sen. Lindsey Graham gets his way, the federal government will launch another attack on online privacy. The South Carolina Republican will ask lawmakers to give Attorney General William Barr and the Department of Justice unchecked access to all of your messaging, file-sharin...
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[22-Feb-20 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
On the one hand, that sounds pretty serious. On the other, this article is in the Washington Examiner


[22-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Midknight#9798
On another, it's Lindsay Graham


[22-Feb-20 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna need a second source to know if this is a stopped clock being right for a change


[22-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a Republican


[22-Feb-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but also because I break out in hives when I visit WE


[22-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
WaEx going after a Republican = shit's hitting the fan


[22-Feb-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rUwvwv0X.db8/v0


[22-Feb-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/a-horrible-ruse-lindsey-grahams-new-internet-bill-blasted-as-a-nightmare-that-would-grant-sweeping-powers-to-bill-barr/

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‘A horrible ruse’: Lindsey Graham’s new internet bill blasted as a ...
Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has been promoting an internet-related bill dubbed the Eliminating Abusive and Rampant Neglect of Interactive Technologies Act (the EARN-IT Act), which he says is designed to combat “online child exploitation conduct.” But according to Ash...
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[22-Feb-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think of the Children as usual.


[22-Feb-20 04:02 AM] jlun2#8758
> Think of the Children
so 100% change of passing, rip


[22-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[22-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats will shit all over this


[22-Feb-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
giving power to a Republican executive? They know better.


[22-Feb-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
and then the media portrays them all as child predators because most readers are idiots


[22-Feb-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there will be atleast 10 more articles about this bill before it ever reaches house likely with trump demanding it be passed


[22-Feb-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably an article where lindsey grahm shits the bed about his own fucking bill


[22-Feb-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
> Born: July 9, 1955 (age 64 years)
Why does he look like he's in his 70s


[22-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
a guy I know irl, and know for a fact is 32 looks like he's pushing 50, balding, with wrinkles etc


[22-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it happens


[22-Feb-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone who works in legislation looks older


[22-Feb-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that job is stressful as fuck


[22-Feb-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except for mitch who never actually does anything...


[22-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/680647420727918808/image0.jpg

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[22-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Sev3617#4685
Lol


[22-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Sev3617#4685
Wait why is this politics


[22-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
putin


[22-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
someone's putin fake news on facebook


[22-Feb-20 07:24 AM] Midknight#9798
"Ready to receive launch code, sir!"


[22-Feb-20 07:24 AM] Midknight#9798
"Papa! Alpha! Sierra! Sierra! Whiskey! Oscar! Romeo! Delta!"


[22-Feb-20 07:24 AM] Midknight#9798
"Uhh, wtf?!"


[22-Feb-20 08:13 AM] byte[]#2610
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/> Sanders majority odds are bouncing around


[22-Feb-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
more importantly, Bloomberg's polling is cratering


[22-Feb-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484114-bloomberg-says-hell-release-3-women-from-ndas-if-they-request-it

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Bloomberg says he'll release three women from NDAs if they request it
Mike Bloomberg cleared the way Friday for three women believed to have accused the former New York City mayor of sexist or misogynistic comments to be released from nondisclosure agreements (NDAs).
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[22-Feb-20 12:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/484154-trumps-new-intel-chief-makes-immediate-changes-ousts-top-official

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Trump's new intel chief makes immediate changes, ousts top official
President Trump's new acting director of national intelligence, Richard Grenell, has already made major changes at the agency, including ousting the No. 2 official.
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[22-Feb-20 02:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1230515129877434368

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Anyone? https://t.co/xqhq5qFYVk
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[22-Feb-20 02:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He really is just Trump


[22-Feb-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really is


[22-Feb-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1230536174130941953

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@MikeBloomberg https://t.co/81wdfvpJYo
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[22-Feb-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
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[22-Feb-20 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/FuckBamboni/status/1230938223083425792

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guy online (@FuckBamboni)
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[22-Feb-20 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
?


[22-Feb-20 04:11 PM] ononim#8141
???


[22-Feb-20 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[22-Feb-20 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhhhh


[22-Feb-20 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[22-Feb-20 04:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, quartering being the new bastion for "we're totally not alt-right" alt-right


[22-Feb-20 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Feb-20 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness to them, that IS big yikes. Here I'd react the same :D


[22-Feb-20 04:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Who the hell would wanna fuck hitler?


[22-Feb-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would rather fuck genghis kahn


[22-Feb-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484180-msnbcs-johnson-roasted-after-calling-sanders-aides-island-of-misfit-black

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MSNBC's Johnson roasted after calling Sanders aides 'island of misf...
MSNBC's Jason Johnson's reference to some presidential campaign staffers of Sen.
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[22-Feb-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/484187-roger-stone-moves-to-disqualify-judge

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Roger Stone moves to disqualify judge
Roger Stone, a convicted former campaign advisor to President Trump, moved Friday to disqualify the judge in his case after being sentenced to more than three years in prison.
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[22-Feb-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/global-trade-economy/484186-us-blocking-g20-mention-of-climate-change-in-draft

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Diplomats: US blocking mention of climate change in G20 draft commu...
G20 diplomats claim that the U.S. is opposed to the mention of climate change among global financial leaders after a joint statement revealed the G20 could include the U.S. administration's position on the issue as a risk factor for economic growth.
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[22-Feb-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.axios.com/nevada-caucus-volunteers-ndas-democratic-party-36676f51-d732-416d-a3d8-17f7da042afa.html

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Nevada caucus volunteers asked to sign NDAs protecting the Democrat...
The agreements come after Iowa's caucuses were thrown into disarray over a vote-tallying app.
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[22-Feb-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/21/nevada-ndas/


[22-Feb-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like the nevada DP is lookinng to rig the activation of super delegates


[22-Feb-20 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders' odds of winning SC are now better than Biden's


[22-Feb-20 06:07 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[22-Feb-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
here's hoping for a biden dropout 🥃


[22-Feb-20 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doubt it, with Bloomberg in _he's_ become the great evil every other dem candidate will justify staying in the race as an alternative for


[22-Feb-20 07:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/wisbech-cambridgeshire-flat-1-alleyway-property-153220344.html
"A town centre flat with stunning river views has sold for £1 because no one can get to it or knows what’s inside.

The property consists of one 129 sq ft room with no doors - nestled between shops above a high street in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire.

It has one long window at the front overlooking a river and far-reaching views over the picturesque town.

But there is no access via stairs and the room above an alleyway is boarded up - so no-one knows what is inside.

There is also no record of anyone ever having used it or lived there."

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Flat with stunning river views sells for just £1 because no one can...
No one knows what's inside the property in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire.
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[22-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@that Quartering post


[22-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Didn’t he do the same thing when someone said something along the lines of “fuck fascism”?


[22-Feb-20 07:31 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
And he made a tweet saying they were stupid?


[22-Feb-20 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/cda7fb4ebba1432ba824d2dfbd41fc17

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India, US struggling to bridge trade dispute as Trump visits
WASHINGTON (AP) — American dairy farmers, distillers and drugmakers have been eager to break into India, the world’s seventh-biggest economy but a tough-to-penetrate colossus of 1.3 billion...
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[22-Feb-20 08:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kent-state-gun-girl-kaitlin-bennett-ohio-university-protest

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Kent State 'gun girl' confronted by protesters at Ohio University
Conservative gun rights activist Kaitlin Bennett, who went viral in 2018 as the “Kent State gun girl,” was met with hundreds of screaming protesters during her visit to the Ohio State University campus Monday, according to reports.
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[22-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And we should care...why?


[22-Feb-20 08:22 PM] Honahue#0656
it's funny that she's succesffuly made a career out of going places and being reminded of the time she shit herself at a party


[22-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, she put an AR-15 on her bakk once and


[22-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
this makes her important?


[22-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
In most places, it makes you "crazy".


[22-Feb-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I mean like, imagine it's the 18th century, and you decide to celebrate graduation with a musket on your bakk


[22-Feb-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's really not the time or place and makes it seem like you think everyone's incompetent.


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to conservative activism. Go to a hostile place with the thing and...


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Make people mad, I guess?


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it seems like she failed at an anti Safe Space protest


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
because you know


[22-Feb-20 08:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like, OK.


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a corruption of our morals to provide people with somewhere they can feel safe


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then she did the AR-15 thing


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
then she went around "interviewing" people by demanding essentially that they be mad about tampons in mens rooms


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and they were like "we don't care, whatever"


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
and now this.


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course


[22-Feb-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
with this pattern of behavior, one thing does emerge


[22-Feb-20 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
It all kind of feels like conservative comedy really. Which boils down to a bit Felix Beiderman did on Chapo where he explained it as starting with a joke and then ending just really mad. Doing a Seinfield thing like, "So what's with it and trans people and bathrooms? I mean: I don't get it but IF YOU GET ANYWHERE NEAR MY DAUGHTER I WILL KILL YOU"


[22-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
She is consistently against making other people who are traditionally targeted feel safe.


[22-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Honahue#0656
she got a job as a "journalist" with inforwars or something so her income depends on her going places and generating outrige


[22-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would you feel safe with someone who advocates against you having a safe place, carries a gun around, and gets outraged at you being given tampons?


[22-Feb-20 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not really.


[22-Feb-20 08:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a sort of, "Excuse me but what is the point?"


[22-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly


[22-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
protest her so hard she never shows her face on any campus again.


[22-Feb-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything she's done is kinda shitty.


[22-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coming to speak on campus is a privilege, not a right.


[22-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, why are we supposed to tolerate these people storming in and screaming about trans bathrooms?


[22-Feb-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody wants that shit.


[22-Feb-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and related to "safe places", never forget https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/799974635274194947

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The Theater must always be a safe and special place.The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!
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[22-Feb-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pence went to a play about how people are supposed to be equal, and at the end the actors politely asked him to remember the play's message.


[22-Feb-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't against providing somewhere safe and comfortable, they're against pro-equality messages; they want safe spaces removed when such support equality, and forced when such are against it.


[22-Feb-20 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://apnews.com/c719bf1a1cce1e3d60251c4a9d3d4239

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After gains in northern Syria, Assad predicts total victory
DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syrian President Bashar Assad congratulated his forces Monday for recent gains in northwestern Syria that led to his troops consolidating control over Aleppo province,...
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[22-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well at least Turkey might consider leaving.


[22-Feb-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turkey being allowed in NATO was a massive mistake in hindsight.


[22-Feb-20 08:42 PM] ononim#8141
But dem straits


[22-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/1581966816-hong-kong-airline-may-cancel-all-flights-to-israel-after-health-ministry-warning


[22-Feb-20 08:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/chaneyj/status/1231041799797473280

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Good God, this is really what happens if there's a tie at a Nevada caucus site?
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[22-Feb-20 08:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
2020: the year the writers for humanity gave up entirely


[22-Feb-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might as well be decided with a game of yugioh


[22-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever summons exodia first gets the delegates.


[22-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
I USE POT OF GREED TO DRAW TWO CARDS


[22-Feb-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dekks each of just pot of greed and exodia


[22-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some filler cards so there's a chance the one who goes second can win.


[22-Feb-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what does pot of greed *dooo*?


[22-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Caucuses should be fukking illegal.


[22-Feb-20 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1Sfi-DYKo

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Brainlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1Sfi-DYKo
The CURSED Tale Of The 2016 Nevada Caucus
i have been informed the woman flipping off bernie supporters is a different woman named Barbara Boxer who worked with Hillary Clinton, not Roberta Lange. i swear to god they look like the same exact human.

❤️follow me on twitter:
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[22-Feb-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, would not be surprised if Bernie's first action in the presidency is to tell the DNC they will get utterly REKT by the federal gov't if caucuses are allowed to continue in any form.


[22-Feb-20 08:58 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8016077/First-coronavirus-patient-NO-connection-Wuhan-seafood-market.html

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First coronavirus patient had NO connection to Wuhan seafood market
The first patient diagnosed with the novel coronavirus has been reported to be a bed-bound pensioner who had no connection with a food market in Wuhan where Beijing's officials say the outbreak began.
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[22-Feb-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-suspends-pro-bloomberg-accounts-platform-manipulation-2020-2

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Mike Bloomberg's social media strategy is under fire as Twitter sus...
A Twitter spokesman said the identical posts violated its policy against manipulation and spam that was created in response to the 2016 election.
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[22-Feb-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-bloomberg-management-strategy-workaholic-culture-leadership-work-ethic

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How Mike Bloomberg's 'first guy in' management style drives a 'cult...
In numerous interviews, Bloomberg said he attributes his success to his work ethic. Many employees said they worked 11-hour days at Bloomberg LP.
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[22-Feb-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Bloomberg got less done than everyone else, but he was always around to hear gossip and develop relationships with management by screwing over more honest workers.

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[22-Feb-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He then took these ideals and used them as a weapon to crush his workforce under him, making them unproductive and obedient.


[22-Feb-20 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't like Bloomberg and his fish lips.


[22-Feb-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he wore clown make up he would look liek the clown from gumball


[22-Feb-20 10:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/orbs5edl4ji41.png

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[22-Feb-20 10:42 PM] ononim#8141
one is regular and the other is international, right?


[22-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh boy, Carville on NBC, this is gonna be "fun"


[22-Feb-20 11:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Blue passport was the old passport of UK and red passport is the current passport because red is cheaper to make than blue and most EU passports are red and will be until the UK has left. Brits think they are gonna change the passport back to blue when they fully leave.

In EU we have lines at airports and train stations for EU and Non-EU passport holders. UK passport holders after they have fully left and received their blue passports will need to stand in the non-EU passport lines.


[22-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll have to actually stand, the EU line is quick


[22-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And doesn't exist for inter-EU travel


[22-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So far of 3% reported

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[22-Feb-20 11:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Any country that is part of the eu schengen area.


[22-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh shit, if only Bernie and Biden make it


[22-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is rekt


[22-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God Carville is such a twat


[22-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is bloomberg even up for the caucus?


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how does that work?


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bloomberg would first be on the ballot on March 3


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You gotta register ahead of time


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For each state


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And he entered late with half a billion dollars in advertising


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pete was licking butthole for the debates. not really a surprise.


[22-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg's strategy is to dominate Super Tuesday via ads.


[22-Feb-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his plan backfired on me, i hate him for the ad spam alone


[22-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Opponent#3498
the ad spam invariably means desperation.


[22-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Steyer did that in Nevada and it's working


[22-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Steyer is kinda screwed tho


[22-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He will get to see Bernie again


[22-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
heh


[22-Feb-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm predicting my mail for the next few months will be engorged in bloomberg ads...


[22-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Carville is _so_ mad Bernie is popular


[22-Feb-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
jesus christ


[22-Feb-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
sanders is pooping on them


[22-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Vermont Steamer.


[22-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also known as the Bernard Train.


[22-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*Burlington Steamer


[22-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is that how they clean the clothes from Burlington Coat Factory?


[22-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[22-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also man Pete is _cratering_


[22-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has no support from non-whites


[22-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
F for whoever voted Gabbard

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[22-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There were some Yang voters too


[22-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy already has a job at CNN


[22-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's going to run for mayor of NYC probably


[22-Feb-20 11:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
where is "yang gang"?


[22-Feb-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony supporting bernie, or :depressed:


[22-Feb-20 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bunch went to Bernie, yeah


[22-Feb-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But he never had much support to start with, so


[22-Feb-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had forgotten tulsi gabbard existed


[22-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouris former senator turned MSNBC talking head looks so pissed it's hilarious


[23-Feb-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chris Matthews?


[23-Feb-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait, Claire McCaskill is on MSNBC now? Wow.


[23-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[23-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe in some alternate universe she's running for president now but that would never happen now


[23-Feb-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's a Blue Dog


[23-Feb-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think you can make Missouri purple again no matter how much people hate Roy Blunt


[23-Feb-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley is a Trumpist so maybe by 2024 people will be sick of it


[23-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/484217-carville-says-that-nevada-caucuses-are-going-very-well-for

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Carville says that Nevada caucuses are 'going very well' for Putin
Longtime Democratic strategist James Carville said that the Nevada Caucuses are going “very well” for Russian President Vladimir Putin following the news that Democratic presidential candidate Sen.
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[23-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who listens to this guy


[23-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You got a Democrat elected against a super weak incumbent portrayed as a liar with a stupid slogan


[23-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congrats


[23-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watching the establisment DNC people burn is amazing.


[23-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An incumbent who was a liar AND fought an unpopular war


[23-Feb-20 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be so fun to watch Warren stans as she campaigns for Bernie


[23-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
More fun when Hillary shrieks about Biden dropping from the race.


[23-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So all the data right now seems to be saying it'll be Sanders, Biden, Pete


[23-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
with Sanders having more than the other two combined


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is gonna hav a hell of a time to spin this as a win.


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Pete...is probably just plain done.


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, unless Biden drops out early and endorses Pete, what does Pete even do?


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying that there's support in rural NV


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are his best states


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
<https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/nevada-caucus-polling/index.html>


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he's clawing at second


[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
> Sanders clearly has a better shot than anyone else to win, but a seven in 10 shot is not an overwhelming favorite. It means that there's a decent chance Sanders won't win.

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[23-Feb-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
ok CNN


[23-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
7 in 10 is damn good betting odds.


[23-Feb-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
538 has it pegged even higher


[23-Feb-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
at 85%


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOL https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/image-14.png?w=575

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[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
WaPo's infographic about who supports who by age


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only Bernie's face is even visible.


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is part of why I rely on 538


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
they find amazing stuff.


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Honahue#0656
zoomers need to get out and vote


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
don't worry


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Honahue#0656
floss and the polls


[23-Feb-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
they will if Sanders is the nominee


[23-Feb-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I guarantee it


[23-Feb-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610

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[23-Feb-20 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
jesus christ that 55%


[23-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder if any dropouts after Nevada


[23-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[23-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll all wait for the 3rd


[23-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even Gabbard


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden is projected to drop out if he tanks SC


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though she seems to be in it to shitpost


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
which is looking likely


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
SC is the only state he has even a remote chance of winning anymore


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dropouts after the third yeah


[23-Feb-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit Bloomberg may if he does bad


[23-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
that would leave Sanders and Rat left


[23-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
well, and Warren too


[23-Feb-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] the 23% is much more important


[23-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Previously, the problem was always that people believed that Bernie couldn't beat Trump


[23-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
essentially, everyone agreed Bernie was good, but


[23-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't think it was a widely-shared view


[23-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they would say "well we need to vote for the greater evil of Biden to appeal to all these conservatives"


[23-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now they're realizing that they all share that view


[23-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
once this ball starts rolling, it can't be stopped


[23-Feb-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Sanders is currently projected to win SC


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden dropping out after SC may benefit Pete, but Pete still has no shot


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
so like...how does this *not* result in a Bernie victory?


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
if he doesn't get a majority


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
and the convention nominates e.g. Rat instead


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh right, the "Biden and Pete never drop out" potential


[23-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they just sukk away delegates like leeches


[23-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the DNC chooses the person in 3rd place to be the nominee


[23-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
everyone except Bernie said they would let the DNC decide the nom not whomever got the most votes


[23-Feb-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I would like a single day nationwide approval voting system


[23-Feb-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
for everything


[23-Feb-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the fact that we have to do all this primary and party support nonsense is infuriating


[23-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, this makes it much more crushing to the losers, which currently are more establishment types.


[23-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not ideal, but at least it presents an opportunity to reform itself because it's now eating itself.


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I foresee Pete having too many problems to win key parts of the dem vote


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Bloomberg thing I think is hurting Pete


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's now a huge focus on how the candidates hav acted towards minorities


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the racist housing stuff alienates black people, his history in the insurance industry alienates young people


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar and Pete both are really racist


[23-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders has been consistent in support for civil rights and universal healthcare


[23-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Bloomberg is catching fire, those two get burned too.


[23-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't help that they each try to set fire to each other to boost themselves.


[23-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worked wonders for Trump with Hillary, but that was a 2-sided contest.


[23-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
When there are 6 sides, 2 fighting just cancel each other out.


[23-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it was a bit funny that at the debate every single candidate just piled on bloomberg instead of really going after sanders


[23-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
easy target I suppose


[23-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
even bloomberg attacked bloomberg

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[23-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
he has the look of a man who is lost and doesn't want to be doing what he's doing


[23-Feb-20 01:05 AM] Honahue#0656
this is hilarious cause for years the DNC was like "we need more POC representation" then Bernie gets the most POC votes and they have to try to justify when an old white guy is winning


[23-Feb-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I have heard something along the lines of "why aren't you voting for pete? he's gay, you're gay? don't you want gay representation?"


[23-Feb-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and I feel like my brain just sort of shut down from the sentiment behind that statement


[23-Feb-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
as if I would just vote for a gay politiican for being gay, and not because of their stance on... you know, policy


[23-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete would sell out the gays in an instant.


[23-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy has a screw loose.


[23-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Honahue#0656
don't you know you aren't an indivicual you're defined wholy by your demographic


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, not just easy target, byte


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg would be really menacing later on, after the ads had done work


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
facing him now is a good way to limit who they hav to face later.


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't really expect that level of strategy from this party


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not 4D chess


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's 2D checkers


[23-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, Bloomberg is literally Trump but smarter.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beating him up indirectly beats up Trump.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump didn't blow 300mil to get kicked in the nuts on TV


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a very good look.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beating up Bernie indirectly supports Trump


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is a very bad look.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump blows 300mil all the time for less.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
that I can get behind


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is known to run businesses into the ground.


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but saying it's because it hurts him later? doubtful


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, it's not about hurting him later


[23-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about forcing him out now


[23-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that they hav fewer competitors


[23-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg's strength is he has the money to run ads nationwide all the way until nomination


[23-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You gotta burn the infection before it has whole cities full of zombies, basically.


[23-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg doesn't even appear on any ballots until Super Tuesday


[23-Feb-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
his whole strategy is to explode Super Tuesday with a viable delegate count.


[23-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And note there's another debate before Super Tuesday


[23-Feb-20 01:13 AM] Honahue#0656
it'll be hilarious if Bernie sweeps it all


[23-Feb-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Klobuchar will probably get Minnesota


[23-Feb-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
other than that, pretty good shot for Sanders to get the rest


[23-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Honahue#0656
that'd be the only place she'd win but Bernie took Michigan last time and did well in Rust Belt states generally


[23-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, basically, "Just wait til I get to 10 mana" Babby Trump came on the debate stage


[23-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
how could they resist breaking out the tire irons?


[23-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
the mood is a lot different now that in 2016, then it was like a bunch of Hollywood libs happy for the first female predsident and others resigned to it and the Repubs voting red no matter who now there's more of a sense of desperation, Trump'


[23-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump's situation is the same as 2016,


[23-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
```I have heard something along the lines of "why aren't you voting for pete? he's gay, you're gay? don't you want gay representation?"```
Aren't you gay AND have phones???


[23-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Honahue#0656
he's gonna get 60million votes or whatever it was last time


[23-Feb-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
phone bad


[23-Feb-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
wife bad


[23-Feb-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just marry your bro, bro.


[23-Feb-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's an app for it


[23-Feb-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, are the results delayed?


[23-Feb-20 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Bernie at 54% this early into Caucuses, if they're not done already and he has maintained that lead


[23-Feb-20 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dayum


[23-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Somewhat, doesn't seem to be the clusterfuck of Iowa


[23-Feb-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could still take over 4 hours.


[23-Feb-20 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 Buttegieg tries to steal is CIA style again


[23-Feb-20 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just walks out and declares himself the victor and announces raising a militia to beat the resistance of his anti-denicrqtic rivals


[23-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I think the whole “three sets of election results” thing might have set caucus states up to fail no matter what. In addition to adding time to the process, it made it possible for people to catch errors in the results, since the votes-to-delegates conversion process was completely transparent." - Nathaniel Rakich of 538


[23-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
> set up to fail no matter what


[23-Feb-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
> possible for people to catch errors in the results


[23-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically this is a really subtle dig at the party being incompetent.


[23-Feb-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in that it relies upon nobody being able to figure out it's wrong to function.


[23-Feb-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have a fucking primary


[23-Feb-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This caucus shit should be limited to like, electing a mayor of a small town or something


[23-Feb-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484199-sanders-wins-nevada-caucuses#

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Sanders projected to win Nevada caucuses
LAS VEGAS – Sen.
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[23-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
"bernie is #1 and biden #2. That sounds like an active trip to the bathroom"


[23-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie pissing all over Biden while Biden shits his pants running there.


[23-Feb-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
is it just me or is the 538 liveblog not working anymore


[23-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does that sometimes


[23-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
hard refresh.


[23-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't load at random for me


[23-Feb-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably working better than my internet tonnight


[23-Feb-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
did a hard refresh and it's still blank


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, dunno


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the past I got it to work by outright closing the tab and opening it in another one.


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
4% reporting


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
winner called


[23-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is...devastating to Biden.


[23-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if he pikks up votes as results come in and it's only like a 10 point lead


[23-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
being told it's impossible to win this early when results are drawn out is crushing.


[23-Feb-20 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there goes Pete's chances of claiming an asterisk win too


[23-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This could be a 30-point win for Bernie, too.


[23-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-linked-disinformation-campaign-fueling-coronavirus-alarm-us-134401587.html

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[23-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
of course


[23-Feb-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
the headline is retarded


[23-Feb-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
here's what you need to actually know


[23-Feb-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
> The disinformation campaign promotes unfounded conspiracy theories that the United States is behind the COVID-19 outbreak,


[23-Feb-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
ugh


[23-Feb-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
> Buttigieg is up now talking in Las Vegas. He says the Nevada results are an affirmative answer to the question of whether a Midwestern mayor can build a national coalition, one that sets him up to do big things on Super Tuesday.


[23-Feb-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/6dbc1adb1411f54831f8bbb8fcee4e6e

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Sanders takes the lead in Nevada Democratic caucuses
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Bernie Sanders led Nevada's presidential caucuses based on early returns Saturday as the fiery progressive pushed for a second straight victory in the Democrats' 2020 nomination...
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[23-Feb-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
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Looks like Crazy Bernie is doing well in the Great State of Nevada. Biden & the rest look weak, & no way Mini Mike can restart his campaign after the worst debate performance in the history of Presidential Debates. Congratulations Bernie, & don’t let them take it away from yo...
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[23-Feb-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
even trump is roasting bloomberg


[23-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
sanders is at 54% with 4% reporting


[23-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
joe biden's at 17.8%


[23-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
as #2


[23-Feb-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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Chris Matthews just compared Bernie's victory in Nevada to the Nazis taking control of France.

Incredibly offensive thing to say about someone from a family of holocaust survivors. https://t.co/t29L4K4iHm
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[23-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[23-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seeing him defeated and rained on while talking to a Sanders staffers was a highlight


[23-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird part is that Bernie Derangement Syndrome


[23-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is BDS


[23-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
wait


[23-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], is buttigieg basically claiming nevada's a win for him?


[23-Feb-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
||boycott divest sanction||


[23-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow no


[23-Feb-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
or is he saying that because bernie was a mayor like him, that he's also qualified?


[23-Feb-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
no... he's saying that he has established support


[23-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
> He says the Nevada results are an affirmative answer to the question of whether a Midwestern mayor can build a national coalition


[23-Feb-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
he's saying that the results of nevada are an answer


[23-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
how so? idk


[23-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
that's what I'm trying to figure out


[23-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying "third isn't last"


[23-Feb-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah Sanders absolutely pooped on them


[23-Feb-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
taking 45% to the next highest, 20%


[23-Feb-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/cable-news-hosts-pundits-freak-out-bernie-sanders-wins-nevada-2020-2

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MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace claimed Sanders "hasn't been vetted by either the press or the other candidates."
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[23-Feb-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
highlights:
> MSNBC host Chris Matthews on Saturday compared Sanders' win in Nevada to Nazi Germany gaining control of France during World War II.
> James Carville, a longtime Democratic strategist who advised Sen. Michael Bennet's failed 2020 bid, suggested Sanders' success can be chalked up to a reported Russian interference campaign. 
> MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace, a former press secretary for President George W. Bush, praised Carville's comments and further claimed Sanders "hasn't been vetted" by the media or his opponents.


[23-Feb-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
the DNC is gonna tear itself apart


[23-Feb-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, I think this might actually giv Bernie a boost.


[23-Feb-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it reminds me of how Trump kept gaining in the polls despite the media constantly shitting on him


[23-Feb-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, there's a huge demand for candidates that CNN types hate.


[23-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Trump is rooting for Bernie


[23-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP the middle


[23-Feb-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
centrists btfo


[23-Feb-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
> Another MSNBC host, Joy Reid, described Sanders' supporters as "angry" and argued, "Democrats need to sober up and figure out what the hell they're going to do" about Sanders' rise.


[23-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, calling Warren "angry" didn't make people stop liking her.


[23-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, her being "angry" at the debate seems to hav kept her afloat.


[23-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
These guys hav it literally completely wrong lol.


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[23-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
```MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace claimed Sanders "hasn't been vetted by either the press or the other candidates."```


[23-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
so, the rule of the establishment, or... the establishment.


[23-Feb-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty much


[23-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
> I love all the moderates who thought Clinton was a good idea in 2016 telling us how we're making a mistake.


[23-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The best part is


[23-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
when the general election comes


[23-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When was the last time a moderate Democrat won an election


[23-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
they'll be forced to vote Bernie


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton, Its


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean he doesn't have a vagina, it's definitely a mistake.


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was Bill Clinton considered a moderate?


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other Clinton.


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bill isn't even moderate anymore


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's conservative


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In 1992 though


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Way right of Obama and Biden


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking Hillary Clinton won 2016


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 1992 he was bending over bakkwards to kiss Republican ass


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still treated him badly


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
don't lose sight of that


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
he kind of proved that third way doesn't work


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
you know what would be fitting? if there was an actual "mass execution of the rich at central park" thing, but at the last moment, all of their sentences are commuted to life without parole because capital punishment is wrong


[23-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was popular, yes


[23-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he kept losing on policy


[23-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
also yeah. She did win.


[23-Feb-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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MSNBC sure has a lot of commentators who hate Sanders.
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[23-Feb-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the replies are some shit


[23-Feb-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ProgressOutlook/status/1231343429625536512

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America Resurgent (@ProgressOutlook)
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@brianefallon Weird that the lifelong Democrats on MSNBC don't like a petty socialist demagogue hijacking the party they've built.
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[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every person I see that talks like this supports Warren


[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who won't be in the race past April tops


[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
'America Resurgent' can't possibly support Warren though xD


[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
or anyone but The Emperor


[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
they're becoming great again


[23-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also though both Trump and Sanders hate the media


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
you just watch


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
any day now.


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
sanders doesn't hate the media


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A President Sanders wouldn't call in all the time to The Rachel Maddow Show or something


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders doesn't target his anger towards the media


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
questioning how they attempt to influence our elections isn't "hating" the media


[23-Feb-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
he targets it towards the Democratic party


[23-Feb-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
which I think is _completely understandable_ considering that it would be basically a right wing party in other countries


[23-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the US's fucked up political system is the root of the problem, the media is just a symptom


[23-Feb-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
(and the republicans would be nazis)


[23-Feb-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone needs to make a comic like


[23-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>when you see Americans finally get your points


[23-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Which do you choose? Conservatives, or Nazis?"
"Bernie."
"You *what*?"


[23-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a massive amount of hubris, Republicans have wanting Bernie


[23-Feb-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
oh this is beautiful.


[23-Feb-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
from 538's liveblog:
> But unlike most other candidates, Sanders can point to his record. He’s been using the same talking points … uh, since he’s been in public office, practically speaking.


[23-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
it drove him to get into public office.


[23-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
so probably earlier than that.


[23-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, there's a picture of him being arrested protesting for civil rights. In the 60s.


[23-Feb-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
given that you're not from the US, @Opponent , what are your thoughts on a Sanders presidency


[23-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has spent his entire adult life getting to this point.


[23-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
US exports it's policies outwards. Less capitalist greed as a basis for foreign policy - probably a safer world.


[23-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's the second-oldest candidate.


[23-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Opponent#3498
remains to be seen what he thinks of Ukraine and the idea of US supporting it, but I guess he wouldn't immediately cut that off, so I don't have any personal reasons 'against'.


[23-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that bernie isn't actually anti-war, he'd probably be decent as a wartime president while also having way less war crimes committed than most other presidents


[23-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
as for reasons 'for'... besides the obvious benefit of getting rid of Trump, instead of replacing him with a more advanced model, having a president like THIS is a much bigger thing than something arbitrary (a woman, or a gay or w/e). It has never happened before.


[23-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd be intensely curious as to how it would go.


[23-Feb-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
hopefully for the better, as just as US exports greed, it could export other things, like automation. The kind benefitting not just the megacorps.


[23-Feb-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
(shitpost)


[23-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1231342675816783873

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MSNBC just had an extended interview with James Carville in which he urged the candidates to stop attacking each other after he spent the entire interview attacking Bernie. Panel was Brian Williams, Nicolle Wallace, and Claire McCaskill — not a single progressive
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[23-Feb-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I am seeing numbers between 45 and 55% for Sanders performance in Nevada


[23-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, if he breaks majority here


[23-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole "moderate votes still outnumber!" argument falls apart


[23-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McCaskill is immensely preferably to what the people of Missouri have now


[23-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We have two senators who vilify any urban or suburban areas of the state


[23-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
but 7/10 isn't an _overwhelming_ majority Nebbie


[23-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
Gabbard could still win the nomination!


[23-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, guys, we need those white rich people on board or else our gigantic coalition will sink!


[23-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, the history books on this will be nuts


[23-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pointing out Bernie assembled an actual coalition while Hillary didn't.


[23-Feb-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they're gonna be even more nuts if Sanders actually gets the presidency


[23-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out "corrupt status quo" mixed with "well I support that *now*, and I TOTALLY always hav..." doesn't work that well.


[23-Feb-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it's going to be blatantly rigged


[23-Feb-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
whether or not he'll still beat the odds... remains to be seen


[23-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think at this point they aren't prepared to rig it fully.


[23-Feb-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I really hope that the appeal on those Florida registrations is not processed in time


[23-Feb-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and they have to comply with the injunction


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sotomayor pointed out today that the conservative majority is just government lapdogs


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
and I am fully expecting SCOTUS to say "actually fuck black people" and deny them voting rights


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
why can't they learn from their mistakes


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
just like they did with the 1965 VRA


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
hillary rigged it


[23-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
she lost the election


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
every single time they blatantly rig the primary


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
they lose the general


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Clinton didn't need any rigging to win


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
she won it from superdelegate support


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, but still


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
but now, superdelegates are out of play until the convention


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
she might've actually won the general if it hadn't been rigged


[23-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
which is a rule change Sanders made, btw


[23-Feb-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
it's blatantly undemocratic


[23-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates were created to be the rigging.


[23-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary used them in the primary to say Bernie couldn't win


[23-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
which made less people vote for him to begin with


[23-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But on top of that, when Nevada happened, Bernie won popular vote, but delegates went to Hillary


[23-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were massive questions about the shit pulled in the 2016 Democratic primary


[23-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And VERY UNFORTUNATELY


[23-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of the answers amount to "well that's how the system is designed to work"


[23-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie making the caucuses reveal all three stages' results is one of the biggest deals in this primary.


[23-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that if mysterious "errors" come in that giv the wrong delegate allotment, the AP refuses to declare a winner


[23-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is what happened in Iowa


[23-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie basically set out a minefield to anyone rigging it this time around


[23-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The IDP walked right into it.


[23-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now, with people still mad about superdelegates, it's at the point where Bernie is said by some to hav won the debate just for saying he thinks they shouldn't get a say.


[23-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has made all the rigging, both legal and not, much more obvious, and put the DNC in disarray.


[23-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They clearly aren't prepared, and that may be why he will ultimately win.


[23-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too much to hide at this point


[23-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The fears of a contested convention are a bit much


[23-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll stroll in with like what, 1700+ delegates


[23-Feb-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck do you do then


[23-Feb-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"pls Bernie pick this milquetoast for your VP pls"


[23-Feb-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
I trust 538's acknowledgement of the probability of no majority


[23-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think they will have any choice to give anyone except Sanders the nomination though


[23-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
otherwise all hell will break loose


[23-Feb-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence what I think will happen, VP begging


[23-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
he's going to pick Warren


[23-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bad idea


[23-Feb-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But doesn't really matter I guess


[23-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
it would be a mistake for him to pick anyone else


[23-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I think at some point the dems decide they want Trump rather than Bernie.


[23-Feb-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and call for national emergency on the grounds of mass psychoses or something.


[23-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders derangement syndrome


[23-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
'we only care about what you think when you think what we want you to'


[23-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie Derangement Syndrome


[23-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
BDS


[23-Feb-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's ironic


[23-Feb-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
it's kind of weird how the naming has changed with the more recent candidates


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
everyone calls Bernie Sanders "Bernie" and Hillary Clinton "Hillary"


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
but Donald Trump is "Trump" and not Donald


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His supporters call him that or Don


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Barack Obama was "Obama", not Barack


[23-Feb-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always called Clinton Clinton


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like there's confusion on Bill running again...


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the call of the worst Pokemon


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All it does is make other Pokemon kill themselves with three shots to the back of their head


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
I change between hillary and clinton


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I hate calling Trump Donald because Donald is my favourite (classic) Disney character :<


[23-Feb-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
I also sometimes switch between bernie and sanders


[23-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus I usually just call people by their last names, anyway


[23-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
I think it has to do with the name, bernie rolls off the tongue better than barack


[23-Feb-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something I've been called out for at work...


[23-Feb-20 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AidanKingVT/status/1231348389549367296

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https://twitter.com/AidanKingVT/status/1231348389549367296
MSNBC's totally normal, not divisive takes on Bernie's #NevadaCaucus performance:
• He's backed by a "squeaky, angry minority"
• He wields "dark arts"
• This is a win for Putin
• Steyer should quit and spend $1bn stop him
• Trump re-election might be better for The Democrats
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[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
HE WEILDS DARK ARTS


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
:glowing_eyes:


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(at what point we had 5 Davids working on the same project and honestly fuck that confusion)


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie just reread over the 538 forecast and realized how much of a complete blowout this is turning out to be so far


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
ah, see


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
the forecast says
> Sanders is forecasted to win an average of 39% of the vote in Nevada. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 26% and 52% of the vote.


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
```• Trump re-election might be better for The Democrats```


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it has begun


[23-Feb-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
so far that number is officially 53%


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
which means he's close to two standard deviations away from predictions


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So uh


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who do you want Sanders to appoint to SCOTUS


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I say Garland first just because fuck you


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
give me a judge list


[23-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but Garland first


[23-Feb-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
make sure they have consistently defended minority rights in the courtroom


[23-Feb-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
and women's rights


[23-Feb-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
those would be my picks as president


[23-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484230-de-blasio-to-buttigieg-try-to-not-be-so-smug-when-you-just-got-your-ass

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De Blasio to Buttigieg: 'Try to not be so smug when you just got yo...
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, the newest surrogate for Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) presidential campaign, panned Pete Buttigieg after his defeat in the Nevada caucuses.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/billdeblasio_07312019.jpg

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[23-Feb-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He would know.


[23-Feb-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
dab


[23-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The New York Post and their front pages about de Blasios campaign though


[23-Feb-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A rag but it was great


[23-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
> “Sen. Sanders sees capitalism as the root of all evil. He’d go beyond reform and reorder the economy in ways most Democrats – let alone most Americans – don’t support.”


[23-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
it turns out that if you listen to him


[23-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
he actually doesn't see it as the root of all evil


[23-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
(though I do)


[23-Feb-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
thanks for being a slimy little rat, Pete


[23-Feb-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484224-trump-campaign-no-denying-socialism-dominated-nevada-with-sanders-win

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Trump campaign: 'No denying' socialism dominated Nevada with Sander...
President Trump's reelection campaign commented on progressive Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) victory in the Nevada caucuses on Saturday, calling the win a domination by "big government socialism."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/trumpsanders_121315getty.jpg


[23-Feb-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
> calling the win a domination by "big government socialism."

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[23-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
really? and a win for Trump wouldn't be big government corporate socialism?


[23-Feb-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
might I even say


[23-Feb-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
boomer socialism...


[23-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Berneth sandyr, lvl 78 necromancer


[23-Feb-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
💀


[23-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
🧟


[23-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
:zombiepony:


[23-Feb-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/530790309118869505/680939075108208650/bernie-chris2.jpg

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[23-Feb-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"It's a big threat, not a tall one but a big one"


[23-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a big threat. Not as tall as I am, but a big one.


[23-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656

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[23-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/1y8mK39

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Justice is broken
https://i.imgur.com/zeWQiEWh.jpg


[23-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Crow#5457
> This guy here is James King.  He's my cousins half-brother.
> 
> James was mistaken for a suspect by a joint Federal/State task force of local officers and FBI in Grand Rapids, MI in 2014.  The guy that they had mistaken him for was suspected of stealing a box of empty bottles and cans from his boss.
> 
> The officers confronted James but never identified themselves.  After trying to ask him questions, they reached for his wallet themselves.  Thinking he was being robbed, he fought back and tried to run.  As a result, he was severely beaten.  Calling out for help, a passerby called 9-1-1 for him in a bid to save his life.  When uniformed officers arrived, not only did they not assist James, they immediately started covering it up including demanding people delete cell phone video and images.


[23-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
> Despite being in the wrong, James was still charged with 3 felonies related to assaulting offers and resisting arrest (despite them, again, never identifying themselves.)  The jury acquitted him and he filed a lawsuit.  It's been over 6 years, and he is still seeking justice.  His case has been argued in every level of court and is now going before the Supreme Court to allow him to seek his own justice in the case.
> 
> You see, despite being everything involving the state of Michigan, the inclusion of FBI officers allows the task force to invoke something called 'Qualified Immunity', among a number of other defenses they have mounted.  Essentially, under qualified immunity, officers can violate the Constitution unless previous court rulings have explicitly prohibited that exact action by the police.  This only works because the FBI agents were involved.
> 
> I'm not asking for anything but awareness.  This is one of many reasons people are demanding a reform of the justice system here.  Officers have hard jobs.  Mistakes happen, even in the best of circumstances (which this absolutely is not), but they shouldn't be allowed to hide behind a faulty system when this type of stuff occurs.


[23-Feb-20 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
> <https://youtu.be/HujPlUyTXRY>
> 
> <https://ij.org/press-release/after-police-brutally-beat-hospitalized-james-king-the-government-closed-ranks-and-is-using-a-legal-shell-game-to-avoid-accountability/>
> 
> Edit: Here's an additional link that someone posted:
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/14/state-federal-task-forces-are-out-control/>
> 
> Edit #2: The WaPo link above clarifies the bottles and cans statement from the ij.org article.  The suspect they were looking for had taken bottles and cans during a home burglary (which makes no sense still).  The ij.org article says it was his former bosses apartment.


[23-Feb-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I think IJ is run by a bunch of wackjobs but their hearts are in the right places


[23-Feb-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
number is solidifying


[23-Feb-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
47% Sanders with 23% reporting


[23-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
jesus, the conventional elections would be done by now


[23-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
caucus needs to go.


[23-Feb-20 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, even with a standard primary election, reporting can take time in some states


[23-Feb-20 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
particularly ones in which most people are really spread out


[23-Feb-20 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but you are not wrong about your conclusion


[23-Feb-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
not rly opponent


[23-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still better than fptp


[23-Feb-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
for example the US general election usually does not finish counting for quite a long time


[23-Feb-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
they never finished counting in the 2000 election


[23-Feb-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
SCOTUS ordered the counting to be stopped when it was clear Gore was going to win


[23-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
win in popular vote or win the election?


[23-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/status/1230971357153894400

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Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM)
https://twitter.com/CANCEL_SAM/status/1230971357153894400
Racist, liberal whites seem to love them some Bernie Sanders.

He cares nothing for intersectionality. I don’t care how many people from the island of misfit Black girls you throw out there to defend you.”

@DrJasonJohnson on Bernie’s staff & supporters. MSNBC should sever t...
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Twitter


[23-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
the media is imploding over bernie atm


[23-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
like holy shit


[23-Feb-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
do they not have any tact?


[23-Feb-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
are they so secure on their high horses that they don't think the people can't just take a halberd and drag their asses down?


[23-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
**#WITHHER**


[23-Feb-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
the people can't.


[23-Feb-20 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
what do you think "the twitter mob" is?


[23-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
what do _you_ think it is, for the mainstream media?


[23-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
the "twitter mob" is, for the most part, the people


[23-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
an easy source for yellow journalism, and justification for 'Bernie bros' argument line


[23-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
that's about it


[23-Feb-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
the "twitter mob" is paid bots


[23-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Crow#5457
it'd be disingenuous to call people outraged about this dude calling black female bernie supporters "misfit black girls" just paid bots


[23-Feb-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not referring to them, I am referring to cultural perceptions of what twitter mobs actually are


[23-Feb-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-wins-nevada-putting-him-in-the-drivers-seat-to-win-the-nomination/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-wins-nevada-putting-him-in-the-drivers-seat-to-win-the-nomination/
Bernie Sanders Wins Nevada — Putting Him In The Driver’s Seat To Wi...
Bernie Sanders has won the Nevada caucuses, and it looks like he’s going to win them by a big, perhaps even landslide margin. We don’t know exactly how big. As …
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/GettyImages-1202654262-16x9-1.jpg?w=575


[23-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I mean what the "twitter mob" actually is


[23-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
social media in general, even


[23-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
the popular perception perpetuated by the media is that the "social media mob" is just all bots


[23-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
but all bots do is amplify what's already there, they can't easily create something from nothing


[23-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Crow#5457
but social media IS, for the most part, the people


[23-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fFPslBcJ1M

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ABC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fFPslBcJ1M
Bernie Sanders delivers speech after projected win in Nevada caucuses
The Democratic candidate delivered a speech while at a rally in San Antonio.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3fFPslBcJ1M/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Feb-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
> 2016: Feel The Burn
> 2020: Not Me, Us
> 2024: Money Can’t Buy Me


[23-Feb-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
If the media wasn't able to stop Trump I hope they can't stop Bernie.


[23-Feb-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I would like to be able to afford healthcare plz


[23-Feb-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
capitalism good socialism bad ~boomer


[23-Feb-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
~boomer living on social security and medicare


[23-Feb-20 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
remember, boomer socialism


[23-Feb-20 05:40 AM] jlun2#8758
I got the feeling literally calling it "medicare" and "social security" as is, rather than saying it's socialism, makes Boomers think its completely different


[23-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah


[23-Feb-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not even socialism though


[23-Feb-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the funny thing


[23-Feb-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders is _not even advocating_ for socialism and the fact that he calls himself a socialist distracts from actual socialist causes


[23-Feb-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
he is better described as a social democrat


[23-Feb-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
he picked the most important and achiveable bits I think.


[23-Feb-20 05:45 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/india-removing-monkeys-ahead-of-trumps-visit-they-come-in-search-of-food/?utm_source=push_notifications

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India removing monkeys ahead of Trump’s visit: ‘They come in search...
US President Donald Trump makes his first official visit to India on Monday and work has been going on around the clock to spruce things up — to the annoyance of some locals as well as monkeys. The photo opportunity highlights of the 36-hour trip include a rally of 100,000 peo...
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[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
guaido, that dude who declared himself interim president in venezuela and then fled the country a week later apparently took a look at ocasio-cortez and called her a social democrat, and bernie's stances are basically the same as hers


[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] Opponent#3498
```A long wall has been hastily built, along the route in Ahmedabad in western India to the new Sardar Patel Stadium in order, locals believe, to hide a slum, although officials deny it.```


[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
because they are both social democrats


[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
like


[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
they aren't publicly calling for the workers to seize the means of production


[23-Feb-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
that would be socialism


[23-Feb-20 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
a dude who literally has experience with something akin to socialism says that ocasio-cortez (and bernie by association) is not socialist


[23-Feb-20 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
my mom calls bernie a socialist, and the most ironic part is that she's looking to start receiving social security benefits this year


[23-Feb-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
not socialism


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
yes, but she calls it socialism


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
or at least implies it is


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
she calls bernie a socialist


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
your mom is just dumb as bricks


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] illumnious#7938
oof


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
```The captive monkeys are put in cages with food, sent to a “distant location” and released, Patel said.```


[23-Feb-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
food, aka other monkeys 😂


[23-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
god I love India sometimes.


[23-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
(no, I loathe it, it fucking sucks. And to me that translates to most of the people too.)


[23-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
she started trying to describe that retarded tax meme (where bernie's tax plans combined with a $15 an hour minimum wage would put people right back at the current minimum wage of $7.20), but the version she heard had it at 48% instead of the 52% in the version I linked


[23-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/680528752169451654/Screenshot_20200221-163739.png

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[23-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
this thing


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
ya


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I saw it too


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
like she literally just said "bernie's minimum wage" and then mentioned "taxes" and I realized she was talking about that


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
even if it were true, that's not how tax bracketing works


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
you pay the tax on the difference


[23-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
which is surprising because she rarely brings up stuff that I've actually seen before


[23-Feb-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
31200-29000=2200, 2200*.52=1144 in tax


[23-Feb-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
but again, he hasn't stated anything like this


[23-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
he has talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires


[23-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
my mom says that bernie's a "fake socialist" who's just trying to cash in on populist sentiment because he has 3 houses


[23-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
and that you can't have 3 houses under socialism


[23-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
so he's not a real socialist


[23-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Crow#5457
and that somehow makes him a faker or something?


[23-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
I don't really get the logic


[23-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's really contrived


[23-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
I'm thinking maybe I should ask her what if he didn't have 3 houses


[23-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
if that would fix her problem with him


[23-Feb-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
he has a home in vermont, where his family is, a home in DC where he works, and a lakeside home he inherited when a relative died


[23-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
none of them are millionaire mansions


[23-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
they're just regular homes


[23-Feb-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it is expected that a senator of his caliber would have multiple homes


[23-Feb-20 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
he is a millionaire too, she says that also makes him a "fake socialist"


[23-Feb-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
that's true, but most senators are millionaires


[23-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
he only became a millionaire after he ran in 2016 and then released a book


[23-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
that's her proof that he's just using the people to boost his own wealth/power/etc and doesn't actually plan on doing anything in office


[23-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
> spend 30+ years helping the poor/workers


[23-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So if she voted Trump I guess that's an endorsement then?


[23-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
tbh her "proof" seems to change depending on which conservative talking head she's listened to for the day


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
> become a millionnaire suddenly because you put out a book while trying to actually fix shit


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
HURR GET RICH SCHEEEEEEMEEEEE


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
eeeeee


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
get rich quick in just 3 easy steps!


[23-Feb-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I probably can't become a politician


[23-Feb-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
otherwise I would


[23-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
over here people come from money into politics, as an ego boost mostly, or are bankrolled by money as a proxy. I wouldn't bother even if I could.


[23-Feb-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
don't worry the GOP loves that system, it'll be the norm here soon


[23-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
why can't?


[23-Feb-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
criminal justice system


[23-Feb-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I suppose Sanders owning multiple homes is a bit ironic given his famous filibuster speech https://www.salon.com/2011/10/25/bernie_sanders_war_on_the_banks/

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Bernie Sanders' war on the banks
The socialist from OWS says withdraw your money from Wall Street
https://media.salon.com/2011/10/bernie-sanders.jpg


[23-Feb-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> “Enough is enough!" he cried out at one point "How many homes can you own?"


[23-Feb-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, bernie has real reasons as to why he has 3 houses


[23-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
though tbh, I feel that politicians should actually be given housing


[23-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
instead of having to pay for it themselves


[23-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but crow, that's soCiALisM!111!


[23-Feb-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLNKNq9soLE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLNKNq9soLE
Senator Bernie Sanders Filibuster (Full 8 1/2 hours)
Dec. 10, 2010

Senator Bernie Sanders took the floor for 8,5 hours to filibuster the extension of the Bush Tax Cuts, which unfairly benefited the high incomes and disastrously affected working and middle class in America.

This entire speech can be read in book form in "The Sp...
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[23-Feb-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
eight and a half hours of filibuster


[23-Feb-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
(2011)


[23-Feb-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
this is what propelled him to fame and he was petitioned to run in 2012 against incumbent Obama


[23-Feb-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe best that he didn't run, as I think Romney would have won if he had


[23-Feb-20 06:12 AM] jlun2#8758
2012 was too early for medicare for all


[23-Feb-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it wasn't


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
M4A was big in the fucking 1940s


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
no fear, no mercy, only filibuster.


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] jlun2#8758
oh. rip then


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
Bernie's pic is the first that pops up when googling 'filibuster', too


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea that it's not popular today is only true because of decades of corporate lying


[23-Feb-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
they pulled the wool over our eyes and told us it couldn't be done, it was too expensive


[23-Feb-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but the reality of it is


[23-Feb-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
if FDR hadn't died when he did


[23-Feb-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
and boomers are idiots who believe every word


[23-Feb-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
we would have had a nationalized health insurance system


[23-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Americans love progressivism, they just are constantly manipulated by conservatives into voting against their own self interest


[23-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it's crazy


[23-Feb-20 06:16 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm annoyed as hell boomers are less educated but more successful


[23-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
'Those filthy communists have free healthcare, and they stand in lines for toilet paper. Do YOU want that in YOUR country?', and now people be like 'yeah dog, hit me up with that toiler paper line, my body is ready'


[23-Feb-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
even in britain conservatives know they can't get rid of the NHS


[23-Feb-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
they are gutting its funding but getting rid of it would be political suicide


[23-Feb-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think any other country has been insane enough to make the news on cutting funding for health services


[23-Feb-20 06:18 AM] jlun2#8758
do conservatives have tons of babies or something? feels like there's an inifinite amount of them (including younger neo cons)


[23-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Yuri#4154
You ok NYT

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[23-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Yuri#4154
I think someone might've accidentally added a 20 there


[23-Feb-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 christian conservatives do


[23-Feb-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
found the name of it


[23-Feb-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

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Quiverfull
Quiverfull is a theological position which is held by some conservative Christian couples who belong to various Christian denominations, which see children as blessings from God. It thus encourages procreation, abstaining from all forms of birth control (including natural fami...


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Quiverfull


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] jlun2#8758
is having that much babies even viable in today's economy?


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
but it was when boomers were younger


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] jlun2#8758
my cousin had 3 sons and regrets it to this day


[23-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
my grandfather had nine children


[23-Feb-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
context: my grandfather is a boomer


[23-Feb-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
my mother is a genx


[23-Feb-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm a zoomer


[23-Feb-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quiverfull

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Quiverfull


[23-Feb-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
hotter take on quiverfull


[23-Feb-20 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
does he complain a lot "Why arent you getting 10 kids" like those sunburst's mom memes


[23-Feb-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[23-Feb-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
he's actually really progressive on like 90% of things


[23-Feb-20 06:25 AM] jlun2#8758
wow nice


[23-Feb-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
but he votes for the republicans because of abortion


[23-Feb-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
🤦‍♂️


[23-Feb-20 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you cant have abortions if you kill everyone by burning the country down


[23-Feb-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
> The irony is that if evangelical Christians outbreed non-evangelicals they will succeed in proving the concepts behind evolution, even as many of them tend towards creationism.


[23-Feb-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
absolutely savage


[23-Feb-20 06:26 AM] jlun2#8758
too bad they'll  then outright ban evolution simply by sheer poltical power


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll ban teaching it


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously it will have occurred


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] jlun2#8758
evangelical Christians are like some unstoppable thing


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
they're not


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
religion is declining worldwide


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
it's going away for good this time


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I promise


[23-Feb-20 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're kind of stopping themselves as we speak


[23-Feb-20 06:28 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[23-Feb-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
atheists are now the largest political minority in the first world


[23-Feb-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
bigger than any ethnic minority


[23-Feb-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and this is true even in the US, where around 40% of people identify as "Nones"


[23-Feb-20 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
religion is dying, you can thank the internet for killing it


[23-Feb-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to put Senator Sanders's fillibuster speech on and try to fall asleep to it


[23-Feb-20 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
this is such a beautiful speech


[23-Feb-20 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I could listen to it for days


[23-Feb-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
if you like Sanders and you haven't listened to his filibuster


[23-Feb-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
_listen to it_


[23-Feb-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
50% reporting, bernie's at 46.6%, joe's at 19.2%, and rat's unfortunately at 15.4%


[23-Feb-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ i'm tired of hearing the bloomberg ads while i watch toonnami


[23-Feb-20 08:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they sound inspirational and wondrous in the emptiest and most dishonest of ways and it makes me feel irritated as fuck


[23-Feb-20 09:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is that my dad has been suckered by them and it feels bad to see him fall into it.


[23-Feb-20 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11116412/bernie-sanders-mass-incarceration

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Bernie Sanders voted for the 1994 tough-on-crime law. But it's comp...
Sanders's vote seems to be an outlier in an otherwise softer-on-crime record. But Hillary Clinton's support was genuinely about being tough on crime.
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[23-Feb-20 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people are trying to nail bernie on this thing


[23-Feb-20 10:36 AM] Crow#5457
he voted for some"tough on crime" bill in 1994 that caused a minor increase on incarcerations, but there were a lot of positive riders on the bill that bernie felt outweighed the negatives


[23-Feb-20 10:50 AM] Crow#5457
and he called it as it was, not a "tough on crime" bill, but an "imprison people" bill


[23-Feb-20 01:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I wonder do boomers in general even read news about the debates


[23-Feb-20 04:00 PM] byte[]#2610
listening to parts of that speech last night, I reevaluated my stance on Sanders's positions on antiglobalism/populism


[23-Feb-20 04:01 PM] byte[]#2610
he's not actually antiglobalist


[23-Feb-20 04:01 PM] byte[]#2610
what he says is something along the lines of "the US cannot be secretly responsible for bailing out the banks of dozens of governments around the world"


[23-Feb-20 04:01 PM] byte[]#2610
which is so stupidly obvious it hurts


[23-Feb-20 04:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/senate-bill/604/text

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Text - S.604 - 111th Congress (2009-2010): Federal Reserve Sunshine...
Text for S.604 - 111th Congress (2009-2010): Federal Reserve Sunshine Act of 2009
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[23-Feb-20 04:06 PM] byte[]#2610
(Sanders)


[23-Feb-20 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
> "I strongly oppose Audit the Fed," said Federal Reserve chief Janet Yellen, saying that it would "bring short-term political pressures to bear" on the central bank and dissuade it from making the "hard choices" needed to curb inflation.[26] The central bank's chair, in opposing the idea, said it would "politicize monetary policy."[27]


[23-Feb-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
So the context for this is that the Fed had been making low-interest loans to dozens of corporations and individuals with no strings attached, and when Sanders asked about it, they said "no, we can't tell you who we loaned to, go away"


[23-Feb-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
hence he introduced S.604


[23-Feb-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@jlun2 he watches the debates live, though his main disappointment was that bloomberg appeared weak and hopes he does better nnext debate...


[23-Feb-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I am once again asking for you[to watch the filibuster]


[23-Feb-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if my internet will stay connected, i will.


[23-Feb-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not an overwhelming majority!!!! :gallus:


[23-Feb-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Nevada results have stabilized at 46%


[23-Feb-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
60% reporting


[23-Feb-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
heh


[23-Feb-20 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is this true?


[23-Feb-20 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
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[23-Feb-20 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
hue


[23-Feb-20 07:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-comes-taiwan-133200874.html

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The Coronavirus Comes for Taiwan
China has worked to further squeeze Taiwan and its ability to combat the outbreak of the virus. The way in which China has treated Taiwan during the coronavirus outbreak in 2020 is indicative of the past four years and the likely path for the next four.
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[23-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
if the outbreak kills 70% of Taiwan's population, well wouldn't it be just convenient as proof of a failure of Democractic model?


[23-Feb-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
just like Venezuella and sactions...


[23-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438422061753434112/681192084480458777


[23-Feb-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TonyBeast1957/status/1230934496926670848

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chris (@TonyBeast1957)
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going apeshit over this video https://t.co/CbSjKee5Z7
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Twitter


[23-Feb-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
no vote count updates for 5+ hours now


[23-Feb-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
538's forecast is unfrozen


[23-Feb-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/>


[23-Feb-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders pulling out ahead


[23-Feb-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
he has a 46% chance of getting a majority now


[23-Feb-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
and a 70% chance of getting a plurality


[23-Feb-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
go bernie!


[23-Feb-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484234-national-security-adviser-i-havent-seen-any-intelligence-that-russia

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National security adviser: 'I haven't seen any intelligence' that R...
National security adviser Robert O'Brien is rejecting reports that the U.S. intelligence community believes Russia is interfering in the 2020 presidential election with the goal of reelecting President Trump.
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[23-Feb-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We investigated ourselves and found nothing


[23-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2020/02/18/un-chief-fears-spread-of-coronavirus-to-africa/

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UN chief fears spread of coronavirus to Africa
The UN secretary-general warned Tuesday that the deadly coronavirus poses “enormous” risks for the world — and he most fears that it will spread to African nations that aren&#8217…
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[23-Feb-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
soon as China figures out how to weaponise it.


[23-Feb-20 08:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
http://komonews.com/news/local/man-stranded-on-coronavirus-infected-cruise-ship-arrives-at-sea-tac-airport


[23-Feb-20 08:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/jagermeister-logo-does-not-offend-christians-court-rules

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Jägermeister logo does not offend Christians, court rules
The logo for Jägermeister alcohol was found to not be religiously offensive by a Swiss court on Monday.
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[23-Feb-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
they're free to drink methanol-heavy moonshine of their own creation


[23-Feb-20 08:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[23-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
coal is the true bedrock of western civilisation :3


[23-Feb-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sunnyside I see the cross as a generic religion symbol due to have prevelent it is 😛


[23-Feb-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
do you see the crescent as one too?


[23-Feb-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
or the star of david?


[23-Feb-20 09:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
O Deer God


[23-Feb-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> star of david
i legit thought those were "magic summoning circle shape" from video games


[23-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-is-the-front-runner/

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Bernie Sanders Is The Front-Runner
With 60 percent of precincts reporting in Nevada, it’s time for us to turn our 2020 primary forecast back on, as we think the results we have are pretty represe…
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[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note where the changes in projected delegates are


[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg and Buttigieg's went down, Sanders, Biden, Warren's went up


[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
look at that goddamn beautiful wall of red


[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol Florida


[23-Feb-20 09:32 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
COMMUNISM


[23-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I love how Pete had the President Mondale quip for Klobuchar and she's projected to basically do that


[23-Feb-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep


[23-Feb-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I think Sanders is going to win a majority


[23-Feb-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
of course we won't really know until Super Tuesday


[23-Feb-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
but really the odds of the competition catching up are shot


[23-Feb-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden cratered


[23-Feb-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Buttigieg never had any support to begin with


[23-Feb-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Bloomberg is a Republican


[23-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden wins SC then No One has a shot


[23-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
But if Warren keeps attakking Bloomberg and then drops out to endorse Sanders...


[23-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then Biden's absolute toast.


[23-Feb-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
even if he wins SC he won't win anywhere else


[23-Feb-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
except maybe alabama


[23-Feb-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, there is a debate the day after tomorrow before SC


[23-Feb-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it's a repeat of the recent one, then it'll be a Sanders blowout there I think.


[23-Feb-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden did okay but like, he didn't make the case to vote for him and not Sanders


[23-Feb-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
he only made the case to not vote Bloomberg.


[23-Feb-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now Sanders can finally go in claiming a major victory.


[23-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can say that he **assembled** a broad coalition with the support of minorities, the working class, the young, etc.


[23-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden can't


[23-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if Warren keeps hammering Bloomberg, but eventually drops to support Sanders


[23-Feb-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's a double whammy


[23-Feb-20 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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[23-Feb-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484237-chris-matthews-faces-calls-for-resignation-after-comparing-sanders-victory-to

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Chris Matthews faces calls for resignation after comparing Sanders ...
MSNBC's Chris Matthews is under fire after comparing Sen.
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[23-Feb-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
nice job comparing a genocidal regime with an economic union


[23-Feb-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hurr AGGREGATION REASON NAZIS BAD GAIZ


[23-Feb-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
👏


[23-Feb-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I guess we shouldn't join NATO because it's basically the British Empire or something


[23-Feb-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also something funny in the forecasts


[23-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar's chance to win her own state is barely better than Sanders'


[23-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a coin flip between her and him winning.


[23-Feb-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be pretty funny if he edges her out in her own state.


[23-Feb-20 09:55 PM] ononim#8141
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[23-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>florida


[23-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
of course


[23-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/illegal-border-crossings-nearly-double-thanks-to-5-ladders-that-easily-hook-onto-trumps-new-replacement-wall/

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Illegal border crossings ‘nearly double’ thanks to $5 ladders that ...
President Donald Trump has diverted billions of dollars from the Pentagon to ensure his campaign promise to “build a wall” from coast to coast is being kept before the November 2020 election. But what if that wall was not only ineffective, but led to more illegal border crossi...
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[23-Feb-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The EU from what I can tell legitimately runs Europe better than its individual countries


[23-Feb-20 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
with some notable blind spots


[23-Feb-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
anyone here heard of Sherrod Brown


[23-Feb-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Feb-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
stay mad msbnc


[23-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol nice


[23-Feb-20 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
when Sanders dies and while AOC is still too young to run


[23-Feb-20 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Brown should be our next man


[23-Feb-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
he may even be more progressive than Sanders


[23-Feb-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did MSNBC actually run either of those titles, btw?


[23-Feb-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[23-Feb-20 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
god, the way _President Ocasio-Cortez_ sounds


[23-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah


[23-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brown is who I want Sanders to pick


[24-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds like a US-backed South America dictator :D


[24-Feb-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
from an opinion piece in december:


[24-Feb-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> The Democratic establishment has been taking Sanders’ prospects of winning more seriously in recent weeks, but many party insiders believe primary voters will ultimately reject a democratic socialist as its standard-bearer.


[24-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
they probably genuinly did so, too


[24-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
reading the comments on 538


[24-Feb-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it's all the same neversanders types


[24-Feb-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
> I think that Sanders is in for a big shock when the general election campaign begins. The reason is simple: the Democrat candidates have not been properly vetted. People have been talking about Bernie's 3 houses for years and yet no one in the media or the other Democrat candidates even asked him about it until Bloomberg in the recent debate. And he had no answer. He admits that 500,000 Americans sleep on the streets each night but he has 2 empty houses each night and doesn't open them up to the homeless. How can you preach against wealth inequality in this circumstance? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Bernie endlessly praised Venezuela, Cuba and the USSR. There is video footage of him singing the Soviet national anthem. And he has never repudiated any of that. But nobody has asked him about it in public? The media is doing the Democrat party a true disservice by acting as sycophants rather than holding their feet to the fire.

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[24-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
shit, _I_ would have no answer if _Bloomberg_ asked me about my 3 houses accusingly 😂


[24-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
this has as much merit as his campaign's post-debate reaction


[24-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
"He stool tall as an oak under the combined attack!"


[24-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie will still have three houses next year


[24-Feb-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of them will be white

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[24-Feb-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how dare he afford 3 normal ass houses on a congressional salary! he is a rancid hypocrite and i shall henceforth not vote for this monster!


[24-Feb-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
> Amazing how the narrative is now "Bernie has been insufficiently vetted" when all of these Clinton drones have been beating the same drum against Bernie for 5 years. Young people and Latinos don't care that he honeymooned in the USSR. We wish he instagrammed and made more tiktok videos of it, actually.

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[24-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Opponent#3498
amen


[24-Feb-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
> The other way to look at this is that 60% of Nevada voters wanted someone other than Sanders.

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[24-Feb-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/23/opinion/bernie-sanders-isnt-the-lefts-trump.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/23/opinion/bernie-sanders-isnt-the-lefts-trump.html
Opinion | Bernie Sanders Isn’t the Left’s Trump
And this is no time for ego or self-indulgence.
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[24-Feb-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
Then if Bernie gets nominated they all become Trumpers


[24-Feb-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
doubtful


[24-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484290-marianne-williamson-endorses-sanders-at-texas-rally

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Marianne Williamson endorses Sanders at Texas rally
Former 2020 candidate and author Marianne Williamson endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for the Democratic nomination on Sunday at his rally in Austin, Texas.
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[24-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gunning for that "Secretary of Good Vibes" spot I see


[24-Feb-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
relevant to @jlun2 https://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-more-likely-to-share-fake-news-on-facebook-study-2019-1

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Baby boomers share nearly 7 times as many 'fake news' articles on F...
A study by researchers at Princeton and New York University found that people over 65 were most likely to share fake news on social media.
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[24-Feb-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
so yea not convinced democrat boomers wont go full trump


[24-Feb-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/opinion/sunday/brokered-convention-democrats-2020.html

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By Frank Bruni
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Opinion | Why Democrats Are Bound for Disaster
Win, lose or draw, there’s no legitimacy in America anymore.
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[24-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
88% reporting, bernie's at 47.1%, biden's at 20.9%, pete's back below 15% at 13.6%, and warren's at 9.7%


[24-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
are all these shitty opinion articles I'm seeing scrolling back up more people freaking out about bernie


[24-Feb-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
I would love to know the demographics of the "democratic establishment" outside the fact they're white and boomer


[24-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-south-carolina-advantage-shrinks-among-key-voters-n1141331

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Biden's South Carolina advantage shrinks among key voters
The latest NBC News/WSJ poll shows that Biden fares best among all Democrats with African-American voters, but the gap is not as wide as one might think.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_08/3241116/200223-joe-biden-cs-956a_e12ef44740f0af138e7b17f0a919da80.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[24-Feb-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
SC is a tossup according to 538


[24-Feb-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's about equally winnable between Sanders and Biden


[24-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is Gabbard still in it


[24-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Yang_ beat her in Nevada btw


[24-Feb-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
russian spoiler


[24-Feb-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
88% reporting


[24-Feb-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders maintaining at 47%


[24-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2010/dec/10/bernie-sanders-filibuster-tax-cuts

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The significance of Bernie Sanders' filibuster | Michael Tomasky
Michael Tomasky: Bernie Sanders' filibuster won't sink Obama's tax cuts deal, but it may help stiffen Democrats' resolve on tax justice down the line
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[24-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
prophetic


[24-Feb-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
> Still, it'll be enough to make Sanders a hero to the left. "Bernie for President" talk will … heck, there's probably already a website. Let's hope he doesn't drink any Ralph Nader juice. He's a good senator and should stay there.


[24-Feb-20 03:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[24-Feb-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Please clap


[24-Feb-20 03:39 AM] jlun2#8758
super delegate time


[24-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484294-sanders-wont-attend-aipac-conference-accuses-it-of-providing-platform-for

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Sanders won't attend AIPAC conference, accuses it of providing plat...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) blasted the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) on Sunday in a statement confirming that he would not attend the pro-Israel organization's annual conference.
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[24-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh man, being rebuked by pro-Israel supramcists, how could anyone ever recover?!


[24-Feb-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
if only he were jewish or something


[24-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484258-sanders-says-he-would-absolutely-be-willing-to-use-military-force-if

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Sanders says he would 'absolutely' be willing to use military force...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said he would “absolutely” be willing to use military force if he were elected president in a “60 Minutes” interview set to air Sunday.
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[24-Feb-20 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/msnbc-chris-matthews-chuck-todd-sanders-nazis-campaign-resignation-2020-2

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MSNBC anchors keep comparing Sanders' campaign and its supporters t...
Chris Matthews's comments come after MSNBC host Chuck Todd quoted a conservative column on air that likened Sanders supporters to "brownshirts."
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[24-Feb-20 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-stone/u-s-judge-rejects-roger-stones-request-she-be-kicked-off-his-case-idUSKCN20I010

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U.S. judge rejects Roger Stone's request she be kicked off his case
A U.S. federal judge on Sunday denied a request by Roger Stone's lawyers th...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200224&t=2&i=1494333310&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG1N00J


[24-Feb-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fuck, just go to prison and die already


[24-Feb-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-bloomberg/not-good-enough-warren-says-of-bloombergs-non-disclosure-agreement-pledge-idUSKBN20F2SE

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'Not good enough,' Warren says of Bloomberg's non-disclosure agreem...
Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg said on Friday that his...
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[24-Feb-20 05:15 AM] jlun2#8758
not sure where to post this
<https://www.thecut.com/2015/07/what-its-like-to-be-profoundly-face-blind.html>
> And there’s a lot of prejudices that I don’t actually have through no virtue of my own …
> 
> You mean racism? Sexism?
> Well, yes. Here’s a good example. When I worked at a homeless shelter, I was often praised for the way I interacted with my African-American clients. I couldn’t figure out what I was doing differently from the other white workers, but I was allowed into their circle and they bonded with me. When we lived in Louisiana, I was always being asked by African-American women if my husband was black.
> 
> Because of the way you acted?
> When I was tested at Dartmouth, I scored low on unconscious racism. Apparently babies show a preference for their own race at about nine months because that’s when they start being able to recognize faces. My head doesn’t do this.


[24-Feb-20 05:15 AM] jlun2#8758
encountered this unexpectedly while looking up face blindness


[24-Feb-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's interesting, there must be more than just the face problem at play, it seems like they struggle to remember recognizable features overall.


[24-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, they actually do recognize skin color still, much moreso than others.


[24-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they just got screwy with the whole setup for racism.


[24-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>When all of the Toads in the castles unionize


[24-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/j0dvdX1AWn4

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[24-Feb-20 06:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f071702fe4f91a73072501d4d464d389

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Buttigieg questions 3rd place finish in Nevada, cites errors
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Pete Buttigieg’s campaign has questioned his third-place finish in Nevada’s caucuses and called for the state’s Democratic party to release a more detailed breakdown of votes and...
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[24-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What kind of possible error would triple his percentage?


[24-Feb-20 06:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the money kind?


[24-Feb-20 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know, ever since the Iowa caucus I'm pretty sure "caucus" just means "we get to make up our own arithmetic"


[24-Feb-20 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not far off


[24-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
"don't worry, we'll tell you who won afterwards"


[24-Feb-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't understand why they exist


[24-Feb-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Preference voting makes sense, standing in school gyms and moving around in groups to have someone to a literal headcount does not


[24-Feb-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/484150-congress-set-for-clash-over-surveillance-reforms

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Congress set for clash over surveillance reforms
Congress is gearing up for a high-profile fight over reauthorizing a handful of controversial surveillance programs months before the 2020 election.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/paulrand_grahamlindsey_leemikesplit_022120getty.jpg


[24-Feb-20 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484302-trump-receives-warm-welcome-in-india-announces-3-billion-defense-deal

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Trump receives warm welcome in India, announces $3 billion defense ...
President Trump on Monday was offered a warm welcome during his first trip to India and announced that the U.S.
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[24-Feb-20 01:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2020/02/23/meet-anti-greta-young-youtuber-campaigning-against-climate-alarmism/


[24-Feb-20 01:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh hey, another conservative personality in a totes not super saturated market

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[24-Feb-20 01:36 PM] Opponent#3498
and they're being platformed by WaPo


[24-Feb-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's an anti human sentiment to want to protect the environment for future humans! How dare you!"


[24-Feb-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont get this argument unless you're advocating that humans are locusts and we must be allowed to destroy our world and kill ourselves as a species to manifest our true potential as humans...


[24-Feb-20 01:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[24-Feb-20 02:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) the conservative youtubers sure seem to spread like one


[24-Feb-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders odds of majority are improving


[24-Feb-20 03:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
> What kind of possible error would triple his percentage?
@Nebbie 

I think he's below viability. He wants at least one delegate out of this and he didn't get it. So a recount has a chance of pushing him over the threshold to get one.


[24-Feb-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/22/us/elections/results-nevada-caucus.html

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Nevada Caucuses 2020: Live Election Results
Detailed results and maps from the Nevada caucuses.
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[24-Feb-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
96% reported


[24-Feb-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders 46.8%


[24-Feb-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
:glowing_eyes:


[24-Feb-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Feb-20 04:03 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@byte[] why'd you boost the server


[24-Feb-20 04:05 PM] Opponent#3498
why wouldn't you boost the server?


[24-Feb-20 04:07 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
because i don't have the expensive nitro


[24-Feb-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
that means you couldn't not that you wouldn't :P


[24-Feb-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51614958

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Prague denies renaming square to troll Moscow
Politicians in Prague vote to rename a square by the Russian Embassy to honour a slain Putin critic.
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[24-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Luna von Rainy' I had a visa gift card with 20 on it


[24-Feb-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
was going to expire soon


[24-Feb-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[24-Feb-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
yeh


[24-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders got a good shot at getting a majority


[24-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
and is almost guaranteed to get a plurality


[24-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the DNC is gonna have a rough time with this one


[24-Feb-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/484326-supreme-court-to-hear-philadelphia-fight-over-same-sex-foster

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/484326-supreme-court-to-hear-philadelphia-fight-over-same-sex-foster
Supreme Court to hear Philadelphia fight over same-sex foster parents
The Supreme Court will decide whether Philadelphia is allowed to exclude Catholic services that refused to allow same-sex couples to become foster parents from the city's foster care system.
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[24-Feb-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I bet they're going to say yes


[24-Feb-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Smoothbrain argument


[24-Feb-20 05:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what a hose fixes? That. You know what it doesn't? Rural Americas opioid crisis.


[24-Feb-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg ads are becoming that episode of family guy where peter loops surfing birds non stop,but without any of the humor from the rest of the family reacting to it. Instead, we are the family and it;s terrible...

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[24-Feb-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dems and CNN are really latching on to Sander's "Castro wasn't worse than Hitler" answer in an interview


[24-Feb-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Castro was... not worse than Hitler


[24-Feb-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
is this an actual argument that is being made?


[24-Feb-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
like holy shit


[24-Feb-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not literally that


[24-Feb-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder which nazi phenomenon they'll compare sanders to next...


[24-Feb-20 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't remember the exact quote, but it was around the lines of "Castro was a despot, but just because Castro did it doesn't mean it was bad", with the example of increasing literacy in Cuba


[24-Feb-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
typical distinction denier


[24-Feb-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
A couple members got booted from another guild I'm in for saying the uno reverse card edit of the applejack's plantation image was not as bad as the original


[24-Feb-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't imagine what it must be like to see things in such a black and white view


[24-Feb-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

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Reductio ad Hitlerum (; pseudo-Latin for "reduction to Hitler"; sometimes argumentum ad Hitlerum, "argument to Hitler", ad Nazium, "to Nazism"), or playing the Nazi card, is an attempt to invalidate someone else's position on the basis that the same view was held by Adolf Hitl...
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[24-Feb-20 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Either really blissful or really stressful


[24-Feb-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
it's like when Matt Damon says "sexual assault is bad, but can we agree that grabbing someone's butt in an elevator is less bad than drugging and raping someone"


[24-Feb-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
And twitter SJUWs lose their fucking minds


[24-Feb-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article240574801.html


[24-Feb-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Or how Al Franken got kicked out of the Senate for less than that


[24-Feb-20 05:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess assigning things in bulk as bad and not thinking about it again makes it easy, but then you have to always be worried you're going to be next on your own list, or waiting for the group's collective opinion on if it's OK to hate something or you actually should like it


[24-Feb-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Fidel Castro’s Cuban revolution wasn’t entirely bad, Democratic presidential front runner Bernie Sanders said in a 60 Minutes interview that aired Sunday night.
> 
> “We’re very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba, but, you know, it’s simply unfair to say everything is bad,” Sanders said in an interview with journalist Anderson Cooper.
> 
> The comments — sure to rile Cuban exiles in Miami and escalate arguments from moderate Democrats that Sanders is too far left to beat President Donald Trump — came in response to questions about remarks Sanders ,a self-described Democratic socialist, made in a 1980s interview.


[24-Feb-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this dictator was for fair employee wage, if we give employees a living wage, we're no better than that monster!


[24-Feb-20 05:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cuba is shit because of the embargo


[24-Feb-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[24-Feb-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Maher has turned into another cringeworthy boomer to me, but his bit on MeToo culture was shockingly on point


[24-Feb-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent heard it


[24-Feb-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
http://latenightfeud.com/video/new-rule-distinction-deniers-real-time-with-bill-maher-hbo/

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Bill voices his support for the #MeToo movement and cautions liberals that "zero tolerance" is morphing into "zero thinking." Find Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO GO® http://itsh.bo/iioY87. It's HBO.
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[24-Feb-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bob saget morphed into an entirely different person


[24-Feb-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was actually very on point


[24-Feb-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/67057b46fcd3f1183cf6a699a399c886

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Jury says it has reached verdict in Harvey Weinstein's trial
NEW YORK (AP) — The jury says it has reached a verdict Monday in Harvey Weinstein's rape trial in New York City. The jury has been deliberating the rape and sexual assault charges against...
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[24-Feb-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Feb-20 06:14 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/02/22/nonviolent-drugs-offenses/

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[24-Feb-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] easy. anyone who disagrees is irredeemably evil.


[24-Feb-20 06:16 PM] jlun2#8758
also gray areas = twilight snapple


[24-Feb-20 06:16 PM] byte[]#2610
everyone I don't like is hitler

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[24-Feb-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f70e6a9bcf97704194ed20b935c602ca

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Sanders would use wealth tax for universal child care, pre-K
WASHINGTON (AP) —  Bernie Sanders has joined fellow progressive Elizabeth Warren in proposing that a “wealth tax” can fiance government-funded child care from infancy through age 3 for every...
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[24-Feb-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.alternet.org/2020/02/voting-rights-roundup-kentucky-gop-moves-to-strip-democratic-governor-of-his-power-after-election/amp


[24-Feb-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
A big WTF from earlier in the month https://reason.com/2020/02/13/the-supreme-court-tackles-police-shootings-excessive-force-and-the-fourth-amendment/

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What’s at stake in Torres v. Madrid
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[24-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
'The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit, however, apparently never got the memo. In Torres v. Madrid (2019), that court held that no seizure occurred when officers with the New Mexico State Police shot Roxanne Torres twice in the back, because their bullets did not actually stop her from getting away. According to the 10th Circuit, "an officer's intentional shooting of a suspect does not effect a seizure unless the 'gunshot…terminate[s] [the suspect's] movement or otherwise cause[s] the government to have physical control over him.'"'


[24-Feb-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the court said that officers who don't identify themselves as such can just shoot you, and if you manage to survive, your rights weren't violated.


[24-Feb-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf


[24-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is in complete contradiction with every court precedent established on the matter.


[24-Feb-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
and I bet scotus will uphold the lower court's ruling tbh


[24-Feb-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be way too crazy.


[24-Feb-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no faith in the court to follow the constitution


[24-Feb-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
they clearly aren't interested


[24-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's existing SCOTUS precedent that says the result doesn't matter for seizures


[24-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
only the action


[24-Feb-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
and taking action to prevent you from moving is a seizure.


[24-Feb-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
To rule that SHOOTING SOMEONE isn't a seizure as long as they get away would be completely indefensible.


[24-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
From the mind that brought you "I wish we still had eugenics"


[24-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no people are actually capable of forgiveness! We need to stop them before a coalition is put together!


[24-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calling Bernie Bros toxic and a danger is just a deflection of the absolute bullshit MSNBC is actually promoting.


[24-Feb-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Peet Brained there


[24-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Consider which side is making its supporters be vitriolic


[24-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
the guy saying everyone deserves a shot and billionnaires should be taxed


[24-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get it, if Bernie wins then MSNBC can spend years concern trolling


[24-Feb-20 07:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
or the guys raging about executions and how people are COMMUNISTSS!!!!111!!!


[24-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, if they don't deflect, they get destroyed.


[24-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a real risk that MSNBC starts facing consequences due to public bakklash.


[24-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they didn't dump BERNIE BROS arguments like this, twitter would easily organize against people like Chris Matthews.


[24-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, it'll happen anyways.


[24-Feb-20 07:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
We'll start seeing people go after MSNBC hosts with information


[24-Feb-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chris Matthews will get cancelled etc.


[24-Feb-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well multiple hosts of msnbc are having calls on their head for resignation


[24-Feb-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s only going to escalate form there


[24-Feb-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah but see


[24-Feb-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't say bad things are bad anymore or you're just trying to contribute to cancel culture


[24-Feb-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bad things are actually good


[24-Feb-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg ass fucking his employees is good because it promotes a diverse and unproductive business structure! :pudding:


[24-Feb-20 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
comparing the sanders campaign to a nazi uprising is good because people being treated like humans, is akin to throwing jews into concentration camps!


[24-Feb-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hey Chris, good to be here on Fox News... wait, this is MSNBC?"


[24-Feb-20 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/484362-florida-democrat-likens-sanderss-cuba-remarks-to-trumps-charlottesville#

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A Democratic Florida lawmaker is likening Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) comments about Cuban leader Fidel Castro to President Trump’s widely criticized response to the Charlottesville, Va.
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[24-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Feb-20 07:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[24-Feb-20 07:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RjRqS5vl-Q

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The Cuba They Don't Want You To See 🇨🇺
🇨🇺 What do you think of when you hear the name Cuba? Well for me it brought up romantic notions of revolutionaries, rum and steamy tropical nights. But what was life like on the island for the common man living in modern day Cuba? Well myself and Alinchik flew there to find ou...
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[24-Feb-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but clearly, cuba is stalinist russia guys!


[24-Feb-20 08:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just watch this video,that dude asked around cubans about their salaries and life


[24-Feb-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1a2ef58f6ba7b662685f7f5c1b75fe05

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Supreme Court wades into battle over Atlantic Coast Pipeline
The U.S. Supreme Court is set to wade into a long-running battle between developers of a 605-mile (975-kilometer) natural gas pipeline and environmental groups who oppose the pipeline crossing the...
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[24-Feb-20 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-Feb-20 08:28 PM] jlun2#8758
His target demographic don't watch it so he's fine.


[24-Feb-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got un ironicly told to check my privlage when I said that bulding a pipeline wasn't genoisde


[24-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
like bruh


[24-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
the pipeline is shit


[24-Feb-20 09:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but it will get alberta more jobs


[24-Feb-20 09:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and no bulding it and moveing people out of the way of trainlines is not genocide


[24-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
50 more jobs and 50 more years of leaking pipes :3


[24-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
but this is the kind of project that _will_ be completed, no matter what.


[24-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
there will be stalling, and protests, and legislation, and it will be built regardless of that or anything else.


[24-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
no reason to worry, then.


[24-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's not genoside tho right?


[24-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
(i know its not just want to double check im not nuts)


[24-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
how would building a pipeline, by itself, ever qualify for that anyway? Genocide is physical elimination or prohibition of growth against a group of people defined by their ethnicity.


[24-Feb-20 10:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats what I asked them


[24-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but there where like "check your privlgoge"


[24-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
big brain play, no doubt.

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[24-Feb-20 10:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also cops removing baracades on rail road tracks was an armed invasion of first nations land... some how


[24-Feb-20 10:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
beacuse aprantly resrives arn't canadan


[24-Feb-20 10:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
or something


[24-Feb-20 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
not overly familiar with Canadian laws in this regard, but the railroad is usually expected to be a strategic asset, and the land the tracks run on, government property


[24-Feb-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
now if police would try to disperse a protesters' camp, that could be different, depending on how smart they would be with the choice of location. But this one's pretty clear.


[24-Feb-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman they indeed are not.


[24-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike in the US, Canada didn't consider natives fully integrated.


[24-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
But like the US, reservations are given special sovereignty.


[24-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
For Canadian police to go around fukking with stuff on native lands is uh, a big problem.


[24-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no it's not genocide, but it's still really shitty.


[24-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it will get Alberta jobs...employing people who aren't from Alberta.


[24-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich will be the only ones to see the money.


[24-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how the fossil fuel industry works.


[24-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ye i know that but Alberta keeps bitching about it


[24-Feb-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you deliberately take a cut to the state and redistribute it, the money leaves.


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize about conservatives


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
they will bitch until all the brown people are dead.


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bunch of boomers going around saying mabertaga


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they will keep bitching about the gays or the jews or something.


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they wanted to actually fix the economy, they'd just start public works projects and start hiring natives by the trukkloads.


[24-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want that.


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would put people on more even playing fields.


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also the police arent on native grounds but are on rail ways btw


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's contrary to their goals.


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do the railways pass thru native grounds?


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause in most areas


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
a railway passing thru your land is uh


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
a big violation


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Railways can be incredibly disruptive to wildlife.


[24-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not as much as roads, but close.


[24-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Railways where set up with permision and are indeed govermet ground


[24-Feb-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so the gov't coerced the natives into agreeing to giving up some of their land, great


[24-Feb-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now they plan to use that land that was given up only for transportation to run long pipes of toxic shit?


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
How would you feel if I came to you at gunpoint and asked for half of your bakkyard?


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah but its to shut alberta up about "muh jubs"


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I told you that I plan to build a little shed on it


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
small, just stores tools


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
you won't even notice it


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
sure it might stop the birds from coming around, no big deal


[24-Feb-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
20 years later, you see me tearing down the shed


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I put in a system that might every 5 years leak shit that kills your entire bakkyard


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh but you gave it up to me to be a shed! It's mine now!


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Would you think that was fair, @Gordon Freeman?


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
The US has tribal sovereignty, idk if canada has anything similar


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what we did to Natives.


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's shithty


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
basically the government is legally obligated to fuck off


[24-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Alberta


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
ALBERTA BELONGED TO THE NATIVES


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are conquerers


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
we stole the land


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just to be clear tho the arugumet was if it was if it was genoside or not


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
we fukked over the people


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is not in and of itself genocide


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I was saying it was shit


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it is part of the systematic genocide


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But not genoside


[24-Feb-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The proper genocide was the boarding schools etc.


[24-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nowadays, by and large we aren't going out and removing natives or their culture


[24-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead we just pretend they don't exist


[24-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
as we fill their lands with the infrastructure we need


[24-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
infrastructure that we don't allow on our lands


[24-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it fukks people and where they liv over


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is for any country with a military to destroy all pipelines.


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately we can't always be 100% moral. The system keeps us from doing so.


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But there will come a time when we do not need the oil


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Fuck neoliberalism


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it must be KEPT IN THE GROUND.


[24-Feb-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Alberta disagrees, may armed natives kill its gov't.


[24-Feb-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I fear this day will not come before it's too late


[24-Feb-20 10:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eh i wouldnt go that far tbh


[24-Feb-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
we'll be dependent on oil forever and extraction is going to get riskier and riskier


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah the pipeline is shit


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Warc


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
to the point where we're out drilling on the seafloor because it's the last place remaining for it


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
if the natives did to you what your people did to them


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
and offshore drilling is retardedly dangerous


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
you would buy a gun in a heartbeat


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
and shoot every one of them you met.


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying we need to hav a damn race war


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the gov't playing racial favorites is not okay.


[24-Feb-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has to stop.


[24-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Natives should be in charge of their own damn land.


[24-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the gov't is going to fukk them over to fukk the planet.


[24-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is to murder the gov't.


[24-Feb-20 10:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Nah armed upriseing allways hurts people. Reform was better.


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The incredibly shitty thing about neoliberal fossil fuel policies is that normally you'd think locals are begging for good oil money, and so it's a matter of "do you help the people or the planet?"


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But instead


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
does oil industry even hire much ppl? i thought it was mostly automated


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't is fukking over the poor to fukk the planet


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It hires a few people


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
from other places


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
not from where it gets the oil.


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
the oil industry hires lots of highly skilled people


[24-Feb-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
At that much money per worker, travel is nothing.


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It can get all the visas and everything easy.


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
No point in hiring local.


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
to manage stuff like mud flow in extraction and chemical processes in refineries


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'll hav people from Kansas and Iraq in Alberta


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then when the oil is gone


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
they go to Russia or something


[24-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alberta's shafted the whole time.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alberta will then hav to deal with any waste left over


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
while enjoying almost none of the benefits.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except of course, it's gov't will be rich.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the whole damn point of this operation.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make the rich richer.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make the poor suffer.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Move on.


[24-Feb-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Highly trained I should say, not highly skilled


[24-Feb-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
roughnecks are morons


[24-Feb-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> highly trained
where do they even get this training? most jobs seems to be "you need 2-5 years of experience for entry level"


[24-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They get an internship halfway into college


[24-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it teaches them that specific company's operations


[24-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
the idea is to train them to ignore half the safety rules for the sake of profit while they're young and malleable


[24-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
then they get retained by the company


[24-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
no other company will hire an intern of another, because there could be a mismatch of taught policies.


[24-Feb-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mismatch of taught policies as in, they report one particular rule violation, company gets fined.


[24-Feb-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually due to all these ignorances of safety violations, something explodes.


[24-Feb-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
there are something like three safety violations per hour on most derricks


[24-Feb-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Company pays damages well below profits, pretends to be sorry, moves on.


[24-Feb-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
and ten in chemical refineries


[24-Feb-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's hilariously bad


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oil needs to die.


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Urgently.


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gas-powered cars should be illegal for civilian ownership.


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
when do we run out of easily available oil btw?


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who knows


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody knows


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
probably under a century


[24-Feb-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
probably more than 40 years


[24-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, it's not that the availability stays the same


[24-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
New techniques make more and more of the oil available or commercially viable.


[24-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a problem btw


[24-Feb-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
drilling costs something like a million a day in expenses, so if something happens like the drillers hit soft returns, the safe thing to do is circulate light mud and/or run casing, but the pressure is going to be on to keep drilling and risk a blowout


[24-Feb-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
those techniques become more and more destructive to the environment.


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fracking is the big one.


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It WREKKS local water tables


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
causes earthquakes


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it's how you make America's oil in rural areas commercially viable.


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
well, hydrocarbons


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
but the idea is right


[24-Feb-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
When Republicans are talking about becoming an exporter of oil, they mean by making people in Kansas literally die of poisoned water.


[24-Feb-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
fracking wells are used to get foul gas


[24-Feb-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
💨


[24-Feb-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
I keep reading about "rural declining" but its been like a decade. is it some unkillable :zombiepony:


[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot to decline.


[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Markets having a p.bad day it seems


[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it can decline very slowly.


[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NUMBERS GO DOWN?!


[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
number small life bad

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[24-Feb-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
> number down
fantastic, higher chance of trump losing


[24-Feb-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump will just blame it all on China and illegals


[24-Feb-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
The best hope for a total democratic blowout is for the economy to completely crash


[24-Feb-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
and that might happen


[24-Feb-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
the fed is making increasingly risky loans at negative interest rates


[24-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
there is a reason Sanders has been critical of the fed for so long


[24-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize as well, @jlun2, that decline in wealth and property and such doesn't mean people leave


[24-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
the worse off people are, the less able they are to leave


[24-Feb-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
People end up trapped in misery.


[24-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/484396-dow-jones-drops-1031-points-on-coronavirus-fears

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Dow Jones drops 1,031 points on coronavirus fears
U.S. stock markets tanked Monday amid fears that the coronavirus will continue to spread beyond China's borders.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/markets3_1.jpg


[24-Feb-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
number bad oh no


[24-Feb-20 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Drop the rest of the way then


[24-Feb-20 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
Do it


[24-Feb-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I dare you rich fuckers


[24-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is just them telling people to get serious


[24-Feb-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
they'll start trading like crazy once the message is received.


[24-Feb-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I didn't get the original pun in Animal Crossing until they showed this new character


[24-Feb-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
I remember Apple dropping to below a year  ago, and ppl thought it was going to be recession, but now they went even higher so :shrugpony:


[24-Feb-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who replaces Joan (who is a sow)

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[24-Feb-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
rip Joan?


[24-Feb-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
sow named joan, the stalk market, get it?


[24-Feb-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I never managed to get stocks to high price before they rot


[24-Feb-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a weaker pun by far but eh


[24-Feb-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess you can't just call her "Fanny" eh


[24-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably could say "Fanny Pack" Mae


[24-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fanny by itself means butt, kind of an odd name.


[24-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But that's explaining the joke too much


[24-Feb-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the UK it is slang for vagina, not butt


[24-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Heh


[24-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
RCP wat r u doin


[24-Feb-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are you giving Harris a 4.6% betting odd chance


[24-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just this?


[24-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-top-choice-vice-president-unless-theres-someone-else-poll-2020-election-1487995

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Kamala Harris top choice for Vice President—unless there's "someone...
Entrepreneur Andrew Yang was named as the second top pick out of named candidates in the Emerson College Polling study.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1568015/kamala-harris.jpg


[24-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Hillary has a better betting odd chance than Warren, Klobuchar, and Gabbard


[24-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ahhh, now _that_ is humiliating.


[24-Feb-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
they're probably anticipating a contested convention?


[25-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1231769684699037699

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@60Minutes If you're having Anderson Cooper criticize Bernie Sanders for supporting the popular progressive revolutions in Cuba and Nicaragua against US-backed right-wing dictatorships, you should disclose the fact that @AndersonCooper *literally worked for the CIA*
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[25-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, 100% reporting in nevada, bernie's at 46.8% with 24 delegates, biden's 20.2% with 9 delegates, rat's 14.3% with 3 delegates (I thought below 15% got 0 delegates in a caucus), and warren's 9.7% with 0 delegates


[25-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay that would be a good bit but he was _19_


[25-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He legitimately probably just made coffee and sharpened pencils


[25-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Opponent#3498
you _can_ be a douche, yet be completely honest about only working for CIA for a couple months. Although it is a fun little tidbit :D


[25-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I cannot comprehend people like cyborg pony or half the gamergate thread regulars


[25-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The mind boggles


[25-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/rootdetoot/status/1232049826789019649

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@dennis0805a @realDonaldTrump @BarackObama
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[25-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice


[25-Feb-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
TrumpCriticizesTrump


[25-Feb-20 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately, may be fake, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-impeachment-dow-jones/

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Did Donald Trump Say the Sitting President Should Be Impeached If t...
We found a few reasons to be skeptical of this tweet.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/10/ap_trump-2.jpg?fit=1200,800


[25-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if Trump was into deleting tweets hours after posting back then as often as he's done in the last few years, who knows


[25-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
:sad:


[25-Feb-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may be possible he went back and deleted some tweets after becoming president


[25-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Nuxmire#0898
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536295200058769458/681021473372110856/1582268124330.webm

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[25-Feb-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1232083592546856961

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the right is starting to get better at comedy and it’s making lefties nervous
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wat 

[25-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/24/ginni-thomas-reportedly-leading-purge-of-disloyal-trump-aides/

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Ginni Thomas leads effort to purge “disloyal” Trump aides
Wife of Justice Clarence Thomas' has compiled a list of "deep state" officials to help Trump purge "snakes" from his administration.
https://media.salon.com/2020/02/ginni-thomas-0224201.jpg


[25-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HMMMM


[25-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The shit behind Thomas is really weird


[25-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/484405-why-do-trump-and-sanders-seem-to-hate-america

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Do Trump and Sanders hate America?
The choice between a man who looks to Moscow and one who looks to Havana for inspiration is hardly appealing.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_022120getty_caucuses.jpg


[25-Feb-20 12:41 AM] jlun2#8758
If the readers see "America" as mostly white I guess


[25-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
even so


[25-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd really not expect an old white jew to hate white people


[25-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mathews apologozized for the nazi stuff


[25-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(on air, not tweet)


[25-Feb-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Progress


[25-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/kfile-bloomberg-called-warren-scary-and-defended-banks/index.html

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Bloomberg called Warren 'scary' and vowed to 'defend the banks' in ...
Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg said at a private event in 2016 that his presidential campaign platform would have been to "defend the banks" and also labeled the progressive movement and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, now a rival for the 2020 Democratic presid...
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[25-Feb-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
January 2021, if you believe liberals

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[25-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, I have no clue why New England just went "pls Canada annex us" so quickly


[25-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-60-minutes-interview-cooper.html

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Bernie Praised Fidel Castro’s Education System. So Did Obama.
Sanders’s kind words for Cuba’s literacy program make him a “communist” only if George W. Bush’s praise of the Saudis makes him an Islamist.
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[25-Feb-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Bernie Sanders has a 100 percent rating from the American Civil Liberties Union. His support for individual political rights is so unwavering he has called for the enfranchisement of all of America’s incarcerated citizens. His belief in freedom of expression is so unyielding he has scolded progressive college students for shutting down the speeches of far-right speakers. “To me, it’s a sign of intellectual weakness,” the Vermont senator said in 2017. “If you can’t ask Ann Coulter, in a polite way, questions which expose the weakness of her arguments, if all you can do is boo or shut her down or prevent her from coming, what does that tell the world?”


[25-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
> And yet — days after the sitting Republican president asserted an “absolute right” to order criminal investigations into anyone he chooses and began purging the executive branch of civil servants who won’t pledge personal fealty to him — 60 Minutes wants you to know that Sanders may be too authoritarian to be trusted with the presidency.


[25-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
"dictatorship of the proletariat" is a very spicy way of saying "will of the people"


[25-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
> But as a substantive matter, the notion that Sanders’s acknowledgement of the Castro regime’s accomplishments betrays his secret sympathy for authoritarian communism is absurd. It is a fact that Cuba has one of the highest-performing education systems in Latin America, while its medical system has enabled its people to enjoy life expectancy and infant mortality rates similar to those of U.S. residents despite the island’s relative poverty. Meanwhile, with regard to Sanders’s remarks from the 1980s, the claim that Castro’s early social programs mitigated popular opposition to his government is endorsed by many historians of the region.


[25-Feb-20 02:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/xQRC50yzNGY

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[25-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cnn1/


[25-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(sanders town hall)


[25-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes:


[25-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that there has never been a "moderate" candidate who actually won an election, every single Democrat/Republican since 1980 has been a part of the extremist wings of their party


[25-Feb-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"extremist"


[25-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not moderates


[25-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Moderates are for senators, not the president


[25-Feb-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't like Sanders's evasiveness on a lot of the questions


[25-Feb-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I think he should write down what he's being asked and make sure he answers the whole question


[25-Feb-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
He knows how to answer these questions fully


[25-Feb-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
he just isn't


[25-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
I didn't think he was being particularly evasive


[25-Feb-20 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
certainly not more than other politicians at town halls, no


[25-Feb-20 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
but I think he should be able to do a better job


[25-Feb-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's probably saving things for tomorrow's debate.


[25-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just in terms of talking points and overally energy, but he doesn't want to expose weaknesses at the last moment by giving out too much detail that could be wrong.


[25-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, he might be insufficiently prepared for this, but will be prepared tomorrow.


[25-Feb-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's using this mainly to gauge the feelings on various issues to know what to focus on later.


[25-Feb-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
"that person will not be an old white guy"


[25-Feb-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
RIP chances of sherrod brown


[25-Feb-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
"poot bootedgeedge"

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[25-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
I've never seen bernie unprepared for a debate


[25-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll be super prepared tomorrow.


[25-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is fairly standard town hall.


[25-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
there's a dude in another discord who's bragging about how skilled he is because he's good at networking and is able to get good jobs because of it


[25-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
he's saying that being good at networking is the same as being a good employee


[25-Feb-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
in neoliberal america, it is


[25-Feb-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
credentials don't matter, only connections


[25-Feb-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
or as LinkedIn puts it in every email they send me, "It's not what you know, it's who you know"


[25-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
I called him out for being sociopathic, he's like "lol how am i a sociopath"


[25-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
he said that people (and said "all of you" in reference to me and a couple other people who support bernie) are just "waiting for freebies" from bernie


[25-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you need to establish that he doesn't care about others.


[25-Feb-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
freebies? this shit's the bare minimum to function in a society


[25-Feb-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
let me repeat: we are _not a functional society_ right now


[25-Feb-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
functional society is communism!


[25-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
> yeah crow sometimes you gotta fake it until you make it
> cool, i'll be sociopathic and make money
> and you can be wholesome and virtuous
> and probably smell like cheese


[25-Feb-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
gottem


[25-Feb-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
if you have people avoiding preventative care, infecting everyone with viruses because you can't take off work, and getting cancer will bankrupt your family unless you are super wealthy, that's not a functional society


[25-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
```there's a dude in another discord who's bragging about how skilled he is because he's good at networking and is able to get good jobs because of it
he's saying that being good at networking is the same as being a good employee```


[25-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
no, it's vastly more important than that.


[25-Feb-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
if you have a substantial portion of population who can't get an affordable education to be competitive on an international level when competition is by default international


[25-Feb-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not a functional society


[25-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
I honestly think networking has more potential than any other trait or skill in terms of landing jobs


[25-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
(and I suck at it)


[25-Feb-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
if you have people living on the streets, people living paycheck to paycheck in fear of going hungry and losing their homes, that's not a functional society


[25-Feb-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a _fucking_ society clown emoji bottom text


[25-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
but I've seen enough people around me achive success with it (or fail without it) to know.


[25-Feb-20 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is, what if you never make connections, what if you;re never given the opportunity *to* make connections?


[25-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if connections become entirely a family affair and suddenly no one but the top percent have connections?


[25-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
you die.


[25-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe not literally.


[25-Feb-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
society collapses because no one has a job


[25-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Opponent#3498
and the competition is fierce enough to make all other aspects of society hell.


[25-Feb-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the competition died to monopolies


[25-Feb-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is no competition, no one is hiring


[25-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
> do i need to mention all of my abilities within the audio world to you so i am vindicated from hustling for my projects or hires?
> want to see my portfolio


[25-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean he can do that, but that's not what's being discussed.


[25-Feb-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems it went from 'I'm good at networking' to 'I'm just superior'


[25-Feb-20 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's basically what networking became


[25-Feb-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nepotism!


[25-Feb-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
networking became nepotism


[25-Feb-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I can see that.


[25-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was always nepotism.


[25-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just got stronger.


[25-Feb-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to put in ways to return aspects of meritocracy, so people actually go where they are most useful.


[25-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1232143960266678272

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[25-Feb-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy absolutely worked on the show in some capacity, I'm sorry.


[25-Feb-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I keep reading that AI will somehow magically solve that aspect.


[25-Feb-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just expecting AI would build moon or mars bases for the rich to escape to while we peasants remain on earth


[25-Feb-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking that thread is stupid and naive for thinking mlpol was the introduction of rightwing politics into the fandom


[25-Feb-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it has _ALWAYS_ been like that


[25-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I keep up my personal image of Stonetoss being one of those remote character designers/editors on the show and absolutely seething when he worked on S8/9


[25-Feb-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
I got a DM from the owner of the server, he says the dude who was being sociopathic is just a troll who doesn't "actually" believe what he says, the sociopathic dude claims the "probably smells like cheese" comment makes it obvious


[25-Feb-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
why engage


[25-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
because I can't tell if he's trolling or not


[25-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
sometimes it's obvious, other times (like this time) he seems to truly believe what he says


[25-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
the owner himself used to be republican, but realized that trump is becoming an autocratic dictator and now supports sanders as the only candidate with the principles to fix the mess trump is making without trying to seize power himself


[25-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
that happened before I joined the server though, so idk what he was like before


[25-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah it seems like half of people who argue conservative stuff online are trolls.


[25-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If not more.


[25-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize is the vaaaaaaast majority of young people are like, into Bernie and not even Biden.


[25-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if someone's apathetic, why not pretend to be a Nazi? They see actual Nazis around, easy enuff to mimic.


[25-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the actual Nazis pretend to be trolls.


[25-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mutually beneficial.


[25-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
the sociopathic troll dude is also gay, he goes after you super hard if you criticize a gay person


[25-Feb-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
I guess that's just "trolling" too


[25-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
like rattigieg


[25-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that if someone's on top of the social ladder


[25-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Opponent#3498
so Lord Buttchug wannabe then? xD


[25-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shitting on everyone else need not be treated seriously


[25-Feb-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
it only matters that it is done.


[25-Feb-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus @Nebbie RCP is absolutely awful at aggregating the news


[25-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[25-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like links way too many conservative rags


[25-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And at most one liberal rag


[25-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm telling you, I argued with a guy who was saying blakks support Trump


[25-Feb-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
he said he got all his news from RCP


[25-Feb-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was amazing how brainwashed he was.


[25-Feb-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He claimed to be an independent libertarian yadda yadda too.


[25-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
not like those other political _normies_

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[25-Feb-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
some ideas are mainstream for a reason


[25-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
apathetic libertarian,


[25-Feb-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
libertarianism is far too retarded to be as popular as it is


[25-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
it's popular cause it's easy to be an apathetic libertarian, you don't need to try and understand more than, less government interference


[25-Feb-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
these people are not apathetic libertarians


[25-Feb-20 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
they are all for the government interfering in the lives of brown people


[25-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
they are apathetic because they don't give their beliefs any thought

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[25-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
not because they don't vote


[25-Feb-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I misinterpreted what you meant by apathetic


[25-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
nah it's understandable


[25-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a term I heard in reference to South Park's politics and how it's messed up a lot of people


[25-Feb-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it's messed up mostly GenX and some millenials


[25-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
millenials and zoomers in general take very strong stances


[25-Feb-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484457-trump-suggests-sotomayor-ginsburg-should-have-to-recuse-themselves-on#

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[25-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This plus arguments I've seen from people make me realize no one actually wants neutrality


[25-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We legitimately might as well elect justices at this point.


[25-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Midknight#9798
I want neutrality. There are shitty things each party wants to do that neither side should be allowed to do.


[25-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Midknight#9798
More on one side than the other, for sure, but that doesn't excuse anyone


[25-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do too but we're in a weird spot and that may not survive


[25-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American democracy does not exist without neutral courts and well that's becoming uncommon.


[25-Feb-20 07:13 AM] Midknight#9798
yeah well that's because neutral *people* are becoming uncommon, or are keeping their heads very low to avoid taking shots from both sides


[25-Feb-20 07:14 AM] Midknight#9798
corporate money running amok everywhere to get politics doing what it wants doesn't help, either. they know full well people are easier to control if you lock them into an us vs them mindset


[25-Feb-20 07:14 AM] Midknight#9798
so the polarization has its full support across the board


[25-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
one-third of the government suggests that another third shouldn't do its constitutionally mandated job to restrain its power


[25-Feb-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
also, how do you pick "neutrality" when the choices are "let people die" and "don't let people die"?


[25-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
one-third of americans are one missed paycheck away from homelessness, and 47% of the homeless in the US have jobs


[25-Feb-20 07:25 AM] Midknight#9798
depends on what they're dying from. if it's their own poor choices, taking that choice away and making them live the way you think is "right" ain't a good solution


[25-Feb-20 07:26 AM] Midknight#9798
but if their poor choices are killing *others*, that's where you step in and say "Fek no bub, that's not gonna fly"


[25-Feb-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
oh, and who has said they want to take choice away and make them live a certain way?


[25-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Midknight#9798
"You can't be gay, it's wrong" "You can't do drugs, it's wrong" "You have to be Christian in this Christian country, anything else is wrong" Yeah it's not like it isn't said all the frigging time


[25-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
yes, those are conservative positions


[25-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Midknight#9798
How about "You can't be a freaking super rich dumbfuck who buys three yachts every Tuesday because you don't know wtf to do with yourself and bitch about working 2 days a year while your employees are starving to death because you don't pay them enough"


[25-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
how do you maintain neutrality when there's people trying to limit choice in such a way?


[25-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Midknight#9798
I like that one, because that's poor choices making other people die... that's where you step in


[25-Feb-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
there's literally nothing in bernie's plans which say you can't be a rich dumbfuck, it just makes it really hard to be a rich dumbfuck


[25-Feb-20 07:30 AM] Midknight#9798
Yup. I didn't say "you can't be a rich dumbfuck" though. I said "you can't be a rich dumbfuck who..." and added a brief selection of qualifying shit that should not fly under any circumstances.


[25-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Opponent#3498
it's kinda like what I said before, people would care _much_ less about billionaires and their yachts if they themselves had livable levels of income


[25-Feb-20 07:43 AM] Midknight#9798
indeed


[25-Feb-20 07:44 AM] Midknight#9798
I don't really want a yacht, doesn't bother me if someone does. but someone buys a yacht paid for by the blood of wage slaves? Oh, hell no!


[25-Feb-20 07:45 AM] Midknight#9798
You can get rich *without* standing atop a heap of bodies, or you can accept that you're as mediocre as anyone else and live with it.


[25-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Midknight#9798
speaking of rich idiots. what kind of numbskull thinks sectioning off part of a plane with plastic sheet and tape creates any kind of isolation when it's all still running air through the same ventilation system?


[25-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Midknight#9798
Answer: the kind who's gonna ensure we're all living in a bad meme ^_^


[25-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Opponent#3498
good question. Although in this specific case it's fortunate.


[25-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
this... 'quarantine' does something arguably far more useful than containing the disease.


[25-Feb-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
it contains the idiots.


[25-Feb-20 07:58 AM] Midknight#9798
See, I'd be okay with that if it was just the idiots who'd wind up dying.


[25-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I was thinking more along the lines of 'in the middle of the flight, someone gets a bright idea'.


[25-Feb-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much nothing but horror stories can come from a setup like that.


[25-Feb-20 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
you have suspected carriers on board and cannot offload them, for one reason or another. So, you buck up and take 'steps' to pacify the morons, expecting people smart enough to see through it to also be smart enough not to disrupt the flight until it's done


[25-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
the main point is tha the rich dumbfucks are stealing their absurd excess of money from their employees


[25-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
you can't be an ethical billionaire


[25-Feb-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
there has to be a huge misallocation of wealth to make a billionaire


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
well, again. The problem isn't that they steal. The actual problem, for most people, is that they take too much.


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
take too much, steal, it's effectively two words for the same thing


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
nnno


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
take and steal is, too much is the problem.


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Midknight#9798
you can though. it's just not as easy. and nobody really needs to be a billionaire. there's not exactly a huge difference in quality of life from a mere multimillionaire to a billionaire


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Midknight#9798
you just get to waste more money on stupid shit


[25-Feb-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
people wouldn't like  being stolen from at all. Probably. If they put their mind to it etc etc.


[25-Feb-20 08:17 AM] Opponent#3498
most wouldn't bother doing so though, until the unlivable wages come in.


[25-Feb-20 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
it's mathematically impossible to generate enough wealth to become a billionaire without massively short-changing your workers for their productivity


[25-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
you see to be misunderstanding me.


[25-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
I'm responding to midknight


[25-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Midknight#9798
and I say this shit as someone who *will* be a millionaire eventually, through my own work, if I live long enough 😛 I don't own a company. I just fix things when the tv goes out for an hourly wage. But I don't waste money on stupid shit. I save, I invest, I... okay I do buy stupid shit sometimes. But even then I save where I can. I built my flight simulator 😛


[25-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
ah. Nvm then


[25-Feb-20 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
you can be an ethical millionaire


[25-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
I remember when people were saying back in the 2000's that a million dollars was a lot


[25-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
but it costs about $1.7 million dollars over 40 years going by 2018 numbers


[25-Feb-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
for housing, food, utilities, etc


[25-Feb-20 08:23 AM] Midknight#9798
don't know about that. I just know what I've saved, paid off, or gained on investments over a dozen years or so


[25-Feb-20 08:25 AM] Midknight#9798
and I've seen enough to understand, wealth may accumulate slowly, but it does accelerate over time


[25-Feb-20 08:26 AM] Midknight#9798
the real trick is getting started if you weren't born with a silver spoon shoved up your bum


[25-Feb-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
and yeah, there's basically no difference in the quality of life between a millionaire vs a billionaire, you just don't have the money to buy a collection of ferraris and a dozen multimillion dollar yachts as a millionaire


[25-Feb-20 08:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152

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[25-Feb-20 08:27 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
say somthing about it?


[25-Feb-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
everyone buys "stupid shit" btw, that's normal


[25-Feb-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's just that the "stupid shit" is supersized for the rich


[25-Feb-20 08:27 AM] Midknight#9798
there's different levels of stupid shit 🙂


[25-Feb-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
people have hobbies, it's normal


[25-Feb-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
whether it's commissioning furry porn or spending tons of money on video games


[25-Feb-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
billionaires just have the money to buy tens of millions of dollars worth of ferraris they never actually plan on driving


[25-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
either pay other people to drive them or rent them out for car shows


[25-Feb-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
or just put them up on pedestals to look at


[25-Feb-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
I personally feel that the worst waste is having such a powerful car and not driving it


[25-Feb-20 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
true tbh


[25-Feb-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5d3d2d4aa08646924973388070933585

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Years of largesse give Bloomberg his own political machine
When Mike Bloomberg held a rally this month at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, the signs of his wealth and influence were everywhere. Former Philadelphia Mayor Michael...
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[25-Feb-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here's hoping someone throws a wrench in it


[25-Feb-20 12:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484340-white-house-to-request-emergency-coronavirus-funds

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White House to request emergency coronavirus funds
The White House is preparing to ask Congress for emergency funding to fight the coronavirus, a spokesman said Monday, but declined to say how much would be requested.
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[25-Feb-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-soft-touch-with-chinas-xi-worries-advisers-who-say-more-is-needed-to-combat-coronavirus-outbreak/2020/02/16/93de385a-5019-11ea-9b5c-eac5b16dafaa_story.html


[25-Feb-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Feb-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/nevada-gop-activist-reveals-how-he-caucused-for-bernie-to-help-trump-win-it-would-be-a-dream-election/

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Nevada GOP activist reveals how he ‘caucused for Bernie’ to help Tr...
Conservative activist Chuck Muth said that he temporarily switched parties to vote for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders in the Nevada caucuses. Muth, who spoke to the Las Vegas Journal-Review while wearing a red Keep America Great hat, explained that he had cro...
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[25-Feb-20 01:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/418459436907511808?s=19

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To my friends in New York, I still have some connections w/old Contra leaders...if needed.
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[25-Feb-20 01:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hang her friends


[25-Feb-20 02:04 PM] illumnious#7938
The loneliness of Elizabeth Warren: 'I feel like I'm living in a movie' https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/loneliness-elizabeth-warren-i-feel-i-m-living-movie-n1142181

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The loneliness of Elizabeth Warren: 'I feel like I'm living in a mo...
In an interview with NBC News, the senator from Massachusetts opened up about the experience of running for the White House.
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[25-Feb-20 02:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh being a high profile politician might fuck someone up personally


[25-Feb-20 02:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Due to the extremely high expectations and pressure involved


[25-Feb-20 02:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Politicians are more often than not demanded to be above normality


[25-Feb-20 02:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders at least has incorporated it into his messaging


[25-Feb-20 02:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I have fought some lonely fights,
And cast some lonely votes,
But I do not feel lonely now.


[25-Feb-20 02:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-51630142

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Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak dies
The former president, who was ousted by the military in 2011, has died in hospital in Cairo aged 91.
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[25-Feb-20 02:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
🦀


[25-Feb-20 03:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://us.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/coronavirus-us-donald-trump-washington-politics/index.html

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Trump claims coronavirus is 'going to go away' despite mounting con...
President Donald Trump on Tuesday predicted the coronavirus is "going to go away" despite warnings from Democrats that his White House is asleep amid cresting fears in Washington that the outbreak could spark a pandemic.
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[25-Feb-20 03:12 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s not God


[25-Feb-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
I want him so bad to come down with Coronavirus from his trip to India. That'd be based as fuck.


[25-Feb-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like Don or Eric Jr wandered off during the trip to do rich shit-head things and came back and coughed on the airplane.


[25-Feb-20 03:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

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You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus
Most cases are not life-threatening, which is also what makes the virus a historic challenge to contain.
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[25-Feb-20 03:21 PM] Crow#5457
> The world has responded with unprecedented speed and mobilization of resources. The new virus was identified extremely quickly. Its genome was sequenced by Chinese scientists and shared around the world within weeks. The global scientific community has shared genomic and clinical data at unprecedented rates. Work on a vaccine is well under way. The Chinese government enacted dramatic containment measures, and the World Health Organization declared an emergency of international concern. All of this happened in a fraction of the time it took to even identify H5N1 in 1997. And yet the outbreak continues to spread.


[25-Feb-20 03:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
great. another fucking endemic corona virus. :trixdisgust:


[25-Feb-20 03:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
4 wasn't enough was it?


[25-Feb-20 03:24 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Feb-20 03:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't think anyone is going to stop and wait for the van to pullout in front of them when actually running through security.


[25-Feb-20 03:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
This was a drill for the sake of the camera. Pretty sure they are believing by that point the spike strip will slow them down


[25-Feb-20 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Reading this is so frustrating https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/opinion/bernie-sanders-mike-bloomberg.html

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By Gail Collins and Bret Stephens
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/opinion/bernie-sanders-mike-bloomberg.html
Opinion | Imagine Bernie Sanders in the Oval Office
It’s easy if you try.
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[25-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
They don't even contest his moronic claims


[25-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
> And that would mean we’d really get to Feel the Bern in ways I think would be economically and socially ruinous. Medicare-for-All alone would entail levels of taxation unheard-of for working-class Americans, never mind the rich and the middle class.

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[25-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
You're an idiot


[25-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
You didn't listen and didn't read his policy at all


[25-Feb-20 04:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really don't like NYT and how aggressive they are with paywalls


[25-Feb-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Incognito mode


[25-Feb-20 04:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They changed that


[25-Feb-20 04:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any other source?


[25-Feb-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
it still works for me (firefox)


[25-Feb-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
what you should do is block cookies from NYT


[25-Feb-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/hyiys1q5zxi41.jpg

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[25-Feb-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
> Imagine spending more on television commercials than it costs to fix that city's water infrastructure issues..


[25-Feb-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/removing-a-gps-tracking-device-from-your-car-isnt-theft-court-rules/

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Removing a GPS tracking device from your car isn’t theft, court rul...
Indiana high court: Removing a small unmarked device from your car isn't theft.
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[25-Feb-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
fruit of the poisonous tree


[25-Feb-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484494-trump-says-he-wants-officials-who-are-loyal-to-our-country

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Trump says he wants officials who are 'loyal to our country'
President Trump on Tuesday acknowledged an effort to remove certain officials from his administration, saying that he wants people working for him who are “loyal to our country.”
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[25-Feb-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484477-trump-defends-modi-on-religious-freedom-amid-protests-in-india

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Trump defends Modi on religious freedom amid protests in India
President Trump on Tuesday offered a defense of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on the subject of religious freedom amid violent protests over a new law that gives citizenship to non-Muslims fleeing religious persecut
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[25-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484530-top-health-official-warns-coronavirus-spread-in-us-inevitable-its-not-a

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Top official warns coronavirus spread appears inevitable in US: 'It...
A top U.S. health official said on Tuesday that the spread of coronavirus in the country appears to be inevitable.
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[25-Feb-20 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
||https://youtu.be/Tlu1ZfYr6vA ||

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Andrew W.K. - Topic
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Ready To Die
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I Get Wet

℗ 2001 The Island Def Jam Music Group

Released on: 2001-01-01

Composer  Lyricist: Andrew Wilkes-Krier

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[25-Feb-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Feb-20 07:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.space.com/nasa-insight-lander-mars-seismically-active.html


[25-Feb-20 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AP_Sports/status/1232316401773416448

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AP Sports (@AP_Sports)
https://twitter.com/AP_Sports/status/1232316401773416448
IOC member Dick Pound says Tokyo Olympic organizers have until late May to see if the virus is under control. If not, "you're probably looking at a cancellation." https://t.co/e90SS6Px8B
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[25-Feb-20 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Dick Pound"


[25-Feb-20 07:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sunnyside not sure why its political but ty


[25-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-may-try-to-eliminate-ocasio-cortezs-house-seat-paper-says

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Democrats may try to eliminate Ocasio-Cortez’s House seat, paper sa...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., would do well to be prepared to see her House seat vanish in this year's redistricting due to her targeting of "established Democrats" with funds from her Courage to Change PAC, according to a New York Post editorial.
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[25-Feb-20 07:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they do that, they'll basically collapse as a party


[25-Feb-20 07:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the reason why the left-wing of the party is gaining strength


[25-Feb-20 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because a purge of them would jeopardize the DNC itself


[25-Feb-20 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The party bosses may be angsty and shaking their fists at some upstart socdems gaining traction, but they know they can't push the buttons


[25-Feb-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway


[25-Feb-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-socialism.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-socialism.html
Opinion | Bernie Sanders Isn’t a Socialist
But he plays one on TV. That’s a problem.
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[25-Feb-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thots on dis?


[25-Feb-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
well, he's not a socialist


[25-Feb-20 07:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> But if Sanders becomes the Democratic presidential nominee, his misleading self-description will be a gift to the Trump campaign. So will his policy proposals. Single-payer health care is (a) a good idea in principle and (b) very unlikely to happen in practice, but by making Medicare for All the centerpiece of his campaign, Sanders would take the focus off the Trump administration’s determination to take away the social safety net we already have.


[25-Feb-20 07:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd disagree with Krugman on this tbh


[25-Feb-20 07:36 PM] jlun2#8758
I keep reading about "established Democrats", but who tf are those people


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] jlun2#8758
like whos voting for them? boomers?


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Advocacy for medicare for all implies defense of welfare and social safety in itself imo


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 on point


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Establishment democrats are the right-wing of the party


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] jlun2#8758
are they some homogeneous group of old, white men


[25-Feb-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Basically the republican platform but with happier music on the background


[25-Feb-20 07:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They may not be entirely homogeneous, but they are homogeneous in class interest


[25-Feb-20 07:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 
> They may not be entirely homogeneous
<https://www.fastcompany.com/3060586/proof-that-americas-politicians-are-all-basically-the-same-old-white-dude>


[25-Feb-20 07:39 PM] jlun2#8758
i think im going face blind sometimes


[25-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/mecca-governor-orders-arrest-saudi-female-rapper-200223094118361.html

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Mecca governor orders arrest of Saudi female rapper
Some social media users have slammed Ayasel Slay's rap video about Mecca girls as insulting to city's holiness.
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[25-Feb-20 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618613988909121546/681935100216344583/image0.jpg

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[25-Feb-20 07:52 PM] jlun2#8758
1891 years?


[25-Feb-20 07:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, before that, everyone lived forever


[25-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
18.91 years.


[25-Feb-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, so many people died so young that becoming an adult was basically being ahead of everyone else.


[25-Feb-20 08:29 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[25-Feb-20 08:29 PM] jlun2#8758
uh


[25-Feb-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://tobermoriansass.tumblr.com/post/610958775361404928/what-the-fuck-is-happening-in-india-the-delhi-is

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Proud Infiltrator & Cat of Many Coats
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Proud Infiltrator & Cat of Many Coats
What the fuck is happening in India: the Delhi is on fire and those are probably pogroms happening edition Blanket CW for gruesome imagery of injured people at multiple links in this write-up. On...
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[25-Feb-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
india going full fascism again


[25-Feb-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/11/survival-of-the-richest-the-wealthy-are-plotting-to-leave-us-behind.html
<https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand?>
articles like this makes me think as soon as space habitats become liveable there's (unfortunately) going to be a mass (male) white flight to space

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Survival of the richest: the wealthy are plotting to leave us behind
For many wealthy and powerful people on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley, the future of technology is really about just one thing: escape.
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[25-Feb-20 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/484486-what-mike-bloomberg-doesnt-understand-about-farming

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What Mike Bloomberg doesn't understand about farming
Go ahead and call me a “farmer,” because that’s what I am. I learned how to farm from my father, as well as from my professors in college, where I earned a degree in horticulture.
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[25-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I’m a physicist who calibrates weed sprayers and works out complicated “story problems” about nozzle pressure, vehicle speed and volume per acre."


[25-Feb-20 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man this is a big brain take


[25-Feb-20 08:45 PM] jlun2#8758
> don't understand about farming
kinda hard to understand if media keeps showing farmers as idiot hillibillies and uneducated migrants


[25-Feb-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This article doesn't help.


[25-Feb-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
instead of

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[25-Feb-20 08:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
My go-to source about farming is Trauma Farm, a memoir written by a Canadian poet turned small hold farmer as he does introspective analysis of his past eighteen year life as a farmer framed in an eighteen hour day.


[25-Feb-20 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
The smarts in his case isn't so much a bookish Harvard intelligence like Bloomberg seems to have tried to flex on but an acquired wisdom sort of intelligence and a realization you can read all the books but still end up learning shit because the farm takes logic and throws it in the trash.


[25-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not really politics, but
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51628795

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Pets 'go hungry' after smart feeder fails
The device, designed to schedule pets' food and control portions, appears to have been offline for seven days
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[25-Feb-20 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Very cool smart home bubble.


[25-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just feed the damn thing


[25-Feb-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you're on vacation and even then just have a neighbor do it


[25-Feb-20 08:53 PM] jlun2#8758
internet of shit


[25-Feb-20 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking "Neighbors exist?"
-People who buy into internet of things.


[25-Feb-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/1230238304177541120

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Troy Hunt (@troyhunt)
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Remember when the biggest worry we had about candles was the house burning down because *you* left one on? Get ready for other people to start sparking them up for you remotely with “smart” candles... with real fire! https://t.co/tpCAjvuqfW
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[25-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so weird when I hear people say "turn off" in reference to candles


[25-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like when you hear someone an adult say "times it" instead of "multiply" or "libarry"


[25-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
The alt would be snuffing?


[25-Feb-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Extinguish


[25-Feb-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Blow out


[25-Feb-20 09:19 PM] ononim#8141
>tfw sometimes tell dad to "turn off" the window


[25-Feb-20 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/25/trump-doctor-white-house-ronny-jackson

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Ex-White House doctor: to help Trump's diet I hid cauliflower in hi...
Ronny Jackson, physician who praised Trump’s ‘incredibly good genes’, says he encouraged president to eat vegetables and take up exercise
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[25-Feb-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
> incredibly good genes
:ponythinking:


[25-Feb-20 09:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
With all of trump's problems I fear to think what the doctor thinks are bad genes.


[25-Feb-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> In terms familiar to harassed parents of toddlers worldwide, Jackson said that work included “making the ice cream less accessible” and “putting cauliflower into the mashed potatoes


[25-Feb-20 09:54 PM] ononim#8141
>hating cauliflower


[25-Feb-20 09:54 PM] ononim#8141
if everything else he did or said wasn't enough for any of you


[25-Feb-20 09:54 PM] ononim#8141
I hope this will make you see him as a vile monstrosity he is


[25-Feb-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/Pqmo6dS

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Acting Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Stumped by Paywall
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[25-Feb-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theintercept.com/2020/02/23/wetsuweten-protest-coastal-gaslink-pipeline/

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Inside the Wet’suwet’en Protest Camp That Refused to Cede Land for ...
After Canadian police raided the camp to defend the Coastal GasLink pipeline, protesters shut down ports, roads, and railways across the country.
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[25-Feb-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21152643/supreme-court-hernandez-mesa-bivens-border-guard-cross-mexico

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The Supreme Court just held that a border guard who shot a child wi...
Hernandez v. Mesa ends with a decidedly Trumpy result.
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[25-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking christ


[25-Feb-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The odd part about what Thomas said is


[25-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC he doesn't like things like Miranda rights because "you can just sue the officer for violating your rights" or something


[25-Feb-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[25-Feb-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Alito is saying that it's okay to shoot Mexicans, because that's the president's business.


[25-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas is saying that there's no rule federal law enforcement should be held accountable


[25-Feb-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to rule away judicial review of the federal gov't entirely.


[25-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
By saying that any exercise of power by the executive isn't really their purview, but a "political question"


[25-Feb-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
never has uncle tom been a more fitting nickname


[25-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
This "political question" thing is deeply troublesome.


[25-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its whole nature is to say that only the Legislative has the power to chekk the Executive


[25-Feb-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
at a time when the Legislative is continually ceding power to the Executive


[25-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a two-step design to create a monarchy.


[25-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Executive > Legislative > Judicial, essentially.


[25-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind Thomas is so extreme that like


[25-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Judicial says "no no, we're below the Executive, this is for the Legislative to solve, as they're above both us and the Executive", then Legislative goes "no no, we're below the Executive"


[25-Feb-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He thinks the state of Alabama could say "Official religion is Christianity" and that would be fine


[25-Feb-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just as long as the feds don't do it


[25-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
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[25-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
>the dislikes and comments


[25-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
lol


[25-Feb-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
Nazies mad (x24)


[25-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie We briefly had an AG who said the case establishing judicial review was as bad as Dred Scott or Roe


[25-Feb-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did Barr resign, or was that a previous one?


[25-Feb-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Previous interim one


[25-Feb-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even think he mentioned Dred Scott, it was just Roe and Marbury


[25-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dredd Scott, Buck v Bell, Korematsu, Bush v Gore, Citizens United, Trump v Hawaii


[25-Feb-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those are the actual worst ones


[25-Feb-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
what started the abortion animus


[25-Feb-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I know it didn't always exist


[25-Feb-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I remember my AP gov textbook said something about it but I can't fucking remember what specifically


[25-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Started?


[25-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand.


[25-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like gay rights.


[25-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bakk in like, 1900, the topic was so outside the norm nobody was allowed to discuss it, lest they be completely shunned.


[25-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Abortion doctor" referred to shady men in alleyways with coathangers.


[25-Feb-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were right down there on society's views with child murderers and the Irish.


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The IDEA that a woman would use contraception, or get an abortion, or get a divorce was just seen as abominable.


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Divorce was starting to become acceptable.


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Contraception was a bit new, and nearly as reviled.


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jesus christ the comments on that video


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Abortions were completely outside this.


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, as contraception and divorce became common...


[25-Feb-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually women wanted to you know


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
legally remove pregnancies after the initial act.


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And women could finally vote


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember, in 1900 they couldn't.


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not at the federal level, anyways.


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
okay that's not right, metallurgical and animal contraceptives and herbal abortifacients have existed for millenia


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, they did.


[25-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the church stamped them out with an iron fist.


[25-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Getting anything that was actually reliable and easy to transport was next to impossible.


[25-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything was bakk alleys


[25-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Condoms were INCREDIBLY controversial.


[25-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think universal healthcare and guns mixed together.


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Altogether, things were seen as a wholesale assault on societal roles of women.


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the mid 20th century, things had changed


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
people were less religious


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
women were voting nearly as much as men


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
states were starting to make all this stuff very legal


[25-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
but it was a patchwork


[25-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
slowly, one by one, states were allowing abortions to happen


[25-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
then Roe v Wade happened


[25-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS, fresh off dealing with multiple civil rights stuff, in an era of progress, was now facing what it saw as the ultimate question on sex equality


[25-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
allow women to actually choose whether to be pregnant.


[25-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was massive support for abortion, the church was bakking off.


[25-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS gave its ruling...and ruined everything.


[25-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South banded together and spewed vitriol over the federal gov't telling it what to do again.


[25-Feb-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Northerners just stopped caring, believing the fight was over.


[25-Feb-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that sounds like what I read


[25-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, much of the hatred of the gov't giving equal rights from the civil rights movement spilled into abortion


[25-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and unlike civil rights, where the North kept fighting, this time people in like, NY and Cali just figured nothing more needed doing.


[25-Feb-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The church saw an opening, took it, and here we are.


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
50 years nearly.


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The church and the South together are powerful


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every time a Democrat is in charge...they don't fix shit on this


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just preserve the status quo


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every time a Republican is in charge, they make it worse.


[25-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the most visible things is the Mexico City Doctrine


[25-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a ban on public spending going towards abortion-practicing institutions abroad.


[25-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans turn it on, Democrats turn it off.


[25-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
But now, with Obama, Republicans became really riled up cause of racial issues


[25-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile, Obama made DAMN SURE to preserve status quo on abortions


[25-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
he overruled the FDA on allowing abortifacient drugs being sold to minors without parental approval.


[25-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they pose no safety risk)


[25-Feb-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Trump has *expanded* the Mexico City Doctrine.


[25-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It now prohibits public spending going towards any institution that ever tells women they can get abortions abroad.


[25-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would be massively unconstitutional to enforce domestically, but the Constitution doesn't giv Free Speech rights abroad.


[25-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[25-Feb-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
NEVER COMPROMISE WITH CONSERVATIVES.


[25-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't work.


[25-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to rip out their bullshit by the roots and salt the earth where it came from.


[25-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise as soon as you leave that area, they will just regrow their whole oppressive system there.


[25-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, basically, latte-sipping Cali/New Yorker idiots havn't had a clue.


[25-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They spent the last 20 years thinking abortion is easy to get all across the country.


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
News reports like "last abortion provider in danger of shutting down in Kansas" make them go "wait what when did this start happening?"


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh btw


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS half-gutted Roe in the 90s


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It severely weakened the burden on states to show they needed stuff.


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's going to be weird when California actually does open abortionplexes doing third term abortions after Roe ends and they get mad


[25-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why there's this explosion now.


[25-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it will just me like "fuck off dude we can do what we want"


[25-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
What'll happen is


[25-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
satanists say they hav the right to third-term abortions cause religious freedom


[25-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alabama rules it has the right to deport people by religion


[25-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time SCOTUS says anything about it, it's been 5 years.


[25-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Republicans are like, blatantly ignoring the constitution the whole way.


[25-Feb-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds like an eternal cycle


[25-Feb-20 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
The GOP must be exterminated


[25-Feb-20 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Yesterday


[25-Feb-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Feb-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/483999-parasite-studio-fires-back-after-trump-criticism-he-cant-read

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[25-Feb-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes:


[25-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cannot comprehend someone not being able to follow subtitles, I did it when I was a child


[25-Feb-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump believes penthouse air doesn't reach the atmosphere, Its.


[25-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure even if he can follow Parasite's subtitles, he can't understand its message.


[25-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I do think he can't follow subtitles.


[25-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It requires both good reading speed and good visual coordination.


[25-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
We grew up with it, he did not.


[25-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
He grew up like, learning to blow smoke up people's asses in the 60s.


[25-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Jr. grew up believing his dad wasn't racist, he let Michael Jackson play Nintendo with me


[25-Feb-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
the GOP's decline has been super slow


[25-Feb-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP has been fighting tooth and nail to suppress votes against it while gaining ground with dissatisfied old bastards.


[25-Feb-20 11:40 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking "I've played COD with some black guy online I never met dont worry im not racist 👌 "


[25-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not expect it to just fall over dead one day.


[25-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
What will kill it is a series of bursts in policies it uses to win, as demographics shift away slowly underneath it.


[25-Feb-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is a BIG DEAL


[25-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The ones in the GOP who are saying "We've got to reform the Electoral College somehow or it is absolutely going to get taken away by people who are upset" are being ignored.


[25-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
All those blakk people voting could upend the GOP's rule there.


[25-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Florida is out of play for the GOP, it is a huge break in their Southern wall.


[25-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if you made _all_ EC votes like that district in Maine/Nebraska


[25-Feb-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Texas is in play for Democrats, that's the game.


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The interstate compact will destroy the EC


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's completely legal


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's being done


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
the moment it hits 270, it will be too big to end


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What was that case at SCOTUS about punishing faithless electors


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
That was state laws vs faithless electors


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like a catch 22 no matter how it comes out


[25-Feb-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
you've got to understand what's different here


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
State law tells electors how to vote


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's implicit they cannot be told how to vote


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the state wins, then interstate compact is a done deal.


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the state loses, individual electors could break with ANYTHING the state puts down.


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
not just interstate compact


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
but they could like


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
vote with interstate compact


[25-Feb-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a state that never signed it.


[25-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a catch 22 *for supporters of the EC*


[25-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause it's not that the federal gov't controls the electors


[25-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the case is whether the state gov't does


[25-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the end of the day, the states or the electors will fukk over the EC


[25-Feb-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
the case is just deciding which one.


[25-Feb-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's stunning to see how Dems have basically conceded the nomination to Sanders


[25-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it will be the states


[25-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
who the fuck else would it be?


[25-Feb-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Electors who now are free from punishment if they are faithless


[25-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
no I meant the democrats


[25-Feb-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
they have to either nominate sanders or commit massive election fraud


[25-Feb-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A random dark horse? But even then there's not enough


[25-Feb-20 11:47 PM] jlun2#8758
> commit mass election fraud
totally worth it for the money


[25-Feb-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not feasible


[25-Feb-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
not at this stage


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is still feasible if he wins SC and manages to come 2nd in delegates


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he'd need Pete and Klobuchar to endorse him after they drop out.


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's unlikely.


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, ready for tonite's debate?


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the projections are that Sanders will do poorly


[25-Feb-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
...in the debate?


[25-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[25-Feb-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Based on what?


[25-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-the-south-carolina-debate-be-all-about-stopping-sanders/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-south-carolina-poll/

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[25-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea is that now that Bloomberg got trampled in the last one the runners-up can attack Sanders


[25-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure that's a good idea for them.


[25-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is still counting on ST


[25-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
He still is above Warren and Klobuchar and Pete for chances of victory overall.


[25-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally


[25-Feb-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie just proved he can build a coalition


[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
better than three moderates put together.


[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://palestinianliberator.tumblr.com/post/172870672221/the-old-city-of-hebronal-khalil-the-bottom-half

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[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the Precaucus debate in Nevada, it was all theoretical


[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
I just hope Bernie doesn't stumble at the later states given commie-phobia


[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie was saying he could bring in minority groups that were needed


[25-Feb-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but people like Biden were saying no no, you divisive!


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now Bernie can say he HAS brought in minority groups.


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do Biden or Pete say to counter that?


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete is reviled by minorities.


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
they say he's too radical or something


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is the only one in good standing who's anything.


[25-Feb-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, but that doesn't work anymore.


[25-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg called Bernie a SOCIALIST!!!!!11! in the precaucus debate


[25-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Warren said that's unfair.


[25-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden seemed ready to defend Bernie if she hadn't said it.


[25-Feb-20 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
my actual expectation of how this debate will go is that Sanders will turn it into another campaign rally and the rest of the stage will continue to pummel Bloomberg


[25-Feb-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
In all honesty, I think 538's articles hav a tilt to them


[25-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they focus too much on who the elites support


[25-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were for a long time trakking just party endorsements


[25-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
which showed Bernie in like, 4th


[25-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Iowa hit and suddenly it was revealed people actually want change, not same old same old.


[25-Feb-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
538 is gonna take time to catch up to that.


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I need to read up on Trump's primary rise


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was eerily similar.


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were 16 Republicans at their first debate


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
everyone giggled when Trump was announced.


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Debate came, Trump started to dominate the news coverage with his ridiculousness


[25-Feb-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rubio was basically Pete btw


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
breaking into spanish on stage to tell latinos he was totes there for them.


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
*Beto


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That too.


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pete did it at the previous debate.


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
against Klobuchar.


[25-Feb-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barely anybody noticed.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
All people remembered was Warren destroying Bloomberg, Bernie holding strong, and Bernie giving the correct answer about superdelegates.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't win latinos by speaking spanish on TV.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't win them with ad blitzes.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
538 has talked about this, actually.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You win latinos with long-running outreach programs.


[25-Feb-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They tend to remember shit.


[25-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has been reaching out for decades.


[25-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the more traditional candidates were like that one guy who wanted a flat tax


[25-Feb-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd compare him to Yang


[26-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Herman Cain


[26-Feb-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy with the creepy ad right


[26-Feb-20 12:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking link to said creepy ad pls


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess?


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately 538 didn't do anything like they are doing this year with the 2016 republican primaries


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was out early


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 was a smaller player in 2016.


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were one of the only ones predicting Trump could win btw.


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(in the general election)


[26-Feb-20 12:01 AM] jlun2#8758
I never heard of them until you ppl started posted from there 😛


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9sbkoIOUKQ

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JarvisAndTheBoysInc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9sbkoIOUKQ
Herman Cain Creepy Smile Political Ad
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain's election advertisement.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f9sbkoIOUKQ/sddefault.jpg


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
2016 is a large reason I go to 538 first.


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot fukking trust places like CNN to spin things off their own polling.


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 aggregates and corrects polls by their established biases


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] jlun2#8758
i got to you ppl because i feel dumb every time you or byte posts


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it models


[26-Feb-20 12:02 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/baruch-goldstein/

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MJL Admin
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/baruch-goldstein/
Baruch Goldstein | My Jewish Learning
The perpetrator of the Hebron massacre is both vilified and celebrated.
By Matt Plen
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Patriarch_tomb.jpg


[26-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It treats politics like sports.


[26-Feb-20 12:03 AM] ononim#8141
>     Goldstein’s Jerusalem funeral, in contrast, was attended by more than 1000 people. Goldstein was eulogized by well known rabbis and settlement movement leaders. After his coffin was brought–under tight security–to Kiryat Arba, a second series of eulogies was delivered, among others, by Rabbi Dov Lior who, some years previously had infamously called for Arab prisoners to be used in medical experiments.
>     Lior said of Goldstein: “[He] was full of love for fellow human beings. He dedicated himself to helping others.” Israeli daily Yediot Aharonot reported that as they waited for the arrival of the coffin, people in the crowd were heard to comment: “What a hero!” “A righteous person!” “He did it on behalf of all of us.”
>     Having been denied permission by the authorities to be buried in the Hebron Jewish cemetery, Goldstein was buried in the Meir Kahane Memorial Park in Kiryat Arba. A plaque near the grave reads: “To the holy Baruch Goldstein, who gave his life for the Jewish people, the , and the land of Israel.”


[26-Feb-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statistics and games.


[26-Feb-20 12:03 AM] ononim#8141
what the fuck


[26-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so eventually it was a 4-way, byte.

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[26-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump v. Cruz v. Rubio v. Kasich


[26-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz and Rubio were basically identical, and the only ones with a real shot.


[26-Feb-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich was basically a moderate Democrat.


[26-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kasich couldn't carry other states because he had no energy, despite sane policy.


[26-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump was clobbering Cruz and Rubio.


[26-Feb-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rubio soon dropped out, then Kasich, then convention was coming and Cruz reluctantly dropped out instead of contesting.


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cruz was the one who said "Wait, I'll pick a VP that will give me a chance right"


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Carly Fiorina was it?


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican primaries mostly use winner-take-all approaches btw.


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
VPs were basically not pikked before convention.


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when Trump won by like 51%


[26-Feb-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would get an entire state's delegates


[26-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz ended up struggling despite polling okay.


[26-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what really got people is like


[26-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
All Cruz could do to get people excited was to dig deep into policy details


[26-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that doesn't work.


[26-Feb-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could announce a new, off-the-wall policy idea and just shout it


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz would then spend all week trying to say it won't work


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And on the issues, Republican wingnuts loved Trump.


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
would Cruz have won if Trump and Cruz were the only two candidates at the start?


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He talked about bombing arabs to death


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[26-Feb-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing that won it for Trump was he connected with the party's racist and Christian roots better


[26-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
while also doing that with radical ideas people could get excited about


[26-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
he promised the KKK and evangelicals the world.


[26-Feb-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cruz would say "well I think the world is a bit much, how about we set some boundaries..."


[26-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“What a wonderful country we have. The best-known socialist in the country who happens to be a millionaire with three houses.”


[26-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody gave a SHIT about Hermain Cain's 9-9-9 plan again, or Kasich trying to stop being racist.


[26-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And every time Trump got attakked by the media


[26-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just gained him more support.


[26-Feb-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He dominated the news cycle.


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
People would vote for him out of spite of the big networks.


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and so here we are with Sanders doing that too...


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody givs a single fukk about Pete's healthcare plan


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
is it that they didn't learn or do they actually want him to be the nominee


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
or Biden's "don't do anything" plan


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't learn.


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think the year is 2000 and Al Gore will be president.


[26-Feb-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's awfully funny how this Bernie guy is doing stuff.


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the party elites are boomers


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
they reached middle age in the early 2000s


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're now in cognitive decline


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can't adapt to new conditions.


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still don't know what happened in 2016.


[26-Feb-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they **never will**.


[26-Feb-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
explains the piece on moderate democrats trying to unseat AOC by redistricting NY


[26-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking into it, seeing if Nader really was a spoiler in 2000


[26-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seeing mixed things about it


[26-Feb-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe


[26-Feb-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but Gore won in 2000


[26-Feb-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
everything in politics that has happened since 2000 has been a fucking joke


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nader wasn't why Bush won in 2000.


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I love reading Global Times

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[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
but Bush didn't win in 2000


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Gore did


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Republicans just fucked with the process


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
to make it look like Bush won


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EC and SCOTUS handed it to Bush.


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize.


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
and Gore conceded and let it happen


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Florida, massive amounts of voter suppression were employed.


[26-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it still was close.


[26-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a sane country, Florida would've been told it couldn't vote for president next time until it changed everything.


[26-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead, it's just been on repeat.


[26-Feb-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every election, Florida suppresses the blakk vote.


[26-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In different ways, in different places.


[26-Feb-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, with ex-felons able to vote...it might be too much to completely suppress.


[26-Feb-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem is, if scotus processes the appeal from the circuit court fast enough, they can still manage


[26-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[26-Feb-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
and they might just do that


[26-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS would need to put ex-felons being allowed to vote on hold


[26-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that flies in the face of basic process


[26-Feb-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The normal thing to do here is to allow them to vote while things are decided.


[26-Feb-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
again I remind you that I have zero faith in scotus not to just be a puppet of republicans


[26-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reason being


[26-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Florida, for a time, ex-felons were allowed to register to vote


[26-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
no strings attached.


[26-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was Florida's supreme court ruling to do the all fines thing that messed with that


[26-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS would look incredibly partisan if it said "stop them registering" now.


[26-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts could join liberals on that.


[26-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus deny Gorsuch/Kavanaugh their shilling.


[26-Feb-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484608-bloomberg-to-speak-at-aipac-conference

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Bloomberg to speak at AIPAC conference
White House hopeful Mike Bloomberg will speak at the annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference next week in a rebuke of calls from progressives for 2020 contenders to avoid the event.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_mikebloomberg_22120getty.jpg


[26-Feb-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically he's gonna make the case that Bernie would let Israel be crushed by Iran or something.


[26-Feb-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/02/24/philip-haney-amador-county-dead/

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Cameron Glenn
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/02/24/philip-haney-amador-county-dead/
Former DHS Whistleblower Philip Haney Found Dead Of Gunshot Wound I...
A Department of Homeland Security whistleblower was found shot to death in Amador County over the weekend, and contrary to previous reports, investigators haven't classified his death as a suicide.
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15909776/2020/02/PHILIP-HANEY.jpg?w=1280


[26-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was about to put out a new book about shit Obama did


[26-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the gunshot is to his chest, which is EXTREMELY suspicious.


[26-Feb-20 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
⚠️ conspiracy alert ⚠️


[26-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's pretty safe to say he was murdered.


[26-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a question of whether police can find anything that gets them a suspect.


[26-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, some rich fukk did this and knows how to cover trakks.


[26-Feb-20 12:42 AM] ononim#8141

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[26-Feb-20 12:42 AM] ononim#8141
If I had to see it...


[26-Feb-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
I know that's a joke image, but chances are given my experience with old people, they'd probably enjoy it, then publically denounce said act as something bad/sinful/whatever the hip term today is


[26-Feb-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, that's one interpretation of the dominating she gave him


[26-Feb-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/681880617637642307/rif-1582643404018.jpg

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[26-Feb-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1232440271125663744

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$ean P. McCarthy (@SeanMcCarthyCom)
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1232440271125663744
You can’t believe in free speech while defending the rights of employers to violently punish the workers they exploit for the exercise of speech. If you don’t believe in free speech you should.
Twitter


[26-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-speech-senate-south-carolina-democratic-primary-video-election-2020-a9356366.html

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Joe Biden tells crowd he's a 'candidate for the United States Senat...
‘Look me over, if you like what you see, help out. If not, vote for the other Biden,’ he says
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/25/08/joe-biden-south-carolina.jpg


[26-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
who's defending the rights of employers to violently punish their workers?


[26-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda)


[26-Feb-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives, ironically


[26-Feb-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know actually


[26-Feb-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to guess, probably conservatives who also hide behind free speech


[26-Feb-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like trump


[26-Feb-20 01:20 AM] Midknight#9798
"If you don't like how your employer is treating you, get a different job!" doesn't work when they're all in cahoots treating folks the same way, or not hiring because their necessary positions are adequately staffed ^_^


[26-Feb-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[26-Feb-20 01:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> they're all in cahoots treating folks the same way
:derpchrys:


[26-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Midknight#9798
What, you've never heard the various lines to the effect of "That's industry standard, fuck off" from management before?


[26-Feb-20 01:23 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
For what? Hiring minorities?


[26-Feb-20 01:23 AM] jlun2#8758
all employers are the same person


[26-Feb-20 01:23 AM] jlun2#8758
you cant avoid them


[26-Feb-20 01:24 AM] jlun2#8758
if you become an employer you become them :derpchrys:


[26-Feb-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rather, they buy out your business and replace you with them


[26-Feb-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
and they're all old men


[26-Feb-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this goes double for online retail, where new high rising retail sites get bought out by either amazon or walmart and monopolized


[26-Feb-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/youtube-permanently-bans-channel-that-called-trump-s-impeachment-jew-coup-1.8569322

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YouTube permanently bans TruNews channel that called Trump’s impeac...
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https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.8192962.1574880176!/image/1609055007.PNG_gen/derivatives/headline_1200x630/1609055007.PNG


[26-Feb-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/484468-11-year-old-girl-takes-ar-15-to-idaho-gun-legislation-hearing

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11-year-old girl takes AR-15 to Idaho gun legislation hearing
An 11-year-old girl carrying a loaded AR-15 assault rifle appeared at a legislative hearing Monday in Idaho beside her grandfather, who supported a proposal allowing visitors to the state to carry concealed handguns if they can legally posses
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ar15colt_091919getty.jpg


[26-Feb-20 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/VincentGeloso/status/1232302570577842184

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Vincent (Economic History) Geloso (@VincentGeloso)
https://twitter.com/VincentGeloso/status/1232302570577842184
Cuban health care, as I pointed out in this piece in Health Policy and Planning https://t.co/Jdr8DgPTe4, is used as a monitoring tool against political dissent. Physicians are members of the army and must report dissent. They are the first line of surveillance.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERn_EuJWoAAcYgy.jpg:large
Twitter


[26-Feb-20 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fraser Institute teacher trying to disprove Bernie


[26-Feb-20 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But not succeeding in clarifying why Castro decided to implement healthcare


[26-Feb-20 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> A dictator will care about health care if it helps him enforce his will, punish dissent and identify potential nests of rebelliousness. If its too costly or inefficient to use this channel of control, a dictator will not use it! If its a cheap and efficient way, he will use it.


[26-Feb-20 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck does this mean


[26-Feb-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People like guy who make no die


[26-Feb-20 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> But this was, just as in Cuba, an accidental outcome of the regime politicizing health care to preserve the regime. For example, there is a wide literature on the political abuse of psychiatry in the USSR where political dissent was deemed a mental disease


[26-Feb-20 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it was bad, sure, but what does it disprove?


[26-Feb-20 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USSR still had very decent healthcare in all credible levels than the US


[26-Feb-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I wish that journalists like andersoncooper understood that and had actually asked serious questions to Sanders. By the way, the same logic I laid out here can be applied with different terms to Pinochet, Franco, Ortega or any other dictators!


[26-Feb-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[26-Feb-20 01:47 AM] ononim#8141
hey! At least this one didn't suck Le Aviator Shades Guy's dick


[26-Feb-20 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Correction: Fraser Institute throwed him into the disposal bin once they found out his regime was frequently denounced as a miserable experiment


[26-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever consider that maybe people support the regime _because_ it helps them


[26-Feb-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I never knew kids can get a gun licenses


[26-Feb-20 01:57 AM] Midknight#9798
kids can't *buy* a gun. doesn't mean grandpa can't hand 'em one and say "Today i'm gonna teach you how to blow the head off a squirrel. Then we'll make squirrel ka bobs."


[26-Feb-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Vehicles are far more regulated and treated more seriously than guns


[26-Feb-20 01:59 AM] Midknight#9798
you can buy any vehicle you want without a license or training, can take it anywhere in the country with just one state license, and can loan it to friends no problemo.


[26-Feb-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/cbs/ debate


[26-Feb-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Warren sells herself short immediately


[26-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bloomberg going straight for the cheap talking points


[26-Feb-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i missed the start


[26-Feb-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Steyer going for the policy angle


[26-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden ignoring the question and going straight to attacking bernie


[26-Feb-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
their microphones really need pop filters


[26-Feb-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man bloomberg


[26-Feb-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
why


[26-Feb-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao, fuck off


[26-Feb-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i were black you would love me!"


[26-Feb-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
klobuchar is an idiot for not going after bloomberg


[26-Feb-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
go warren


[26-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/americans-should-prepare-coronavirus-spread-u-s-cdc-says-n1142556
https://nypost.com/2020/02/25/pandemic-prep-what-you-should-know-to-protect-against-coronavirus/

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Americans should prepare for coronavirus spread in U.S., CDC says
"It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when," an official said.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_09/3237946/200220-coronavirus-se-346p_a8b5e001df959432b9e8820ab45e8949.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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Pandemic prep: What you should know to protect against coronavirus
With outbreaks raging in ­Italy, Iran, South Korea and other countries, US authorities now predict coronavirus will strike Americans here, causing “significant disruptions to our lives.” The warnin…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/coronavirus-health-hospitals.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[26-Feb-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar was there?


[26-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I looked at another screen and just heard a buzzing sound


[26-Feb-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
lul


[26-Feb-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's more than 5 candidates?


[26-Feb-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sunnyside given all that antivax crap happen in US I'm surprised there's no outbreak of anything outside a "minor" measles one there


[26-Feb-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes


[26-Feb-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
holy shit bloomberg


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
"enough is never enough [for this woman]"


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus stop


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the shoveling conntinues


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie loves this shit


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh my God


[26-Feb-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you spend this money and not prepare


[26-Feb-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he banked entirely on ads to carry his dumbass


[26-Feb-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's his campaign


[26-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Midknight#9798
Bloomberg is good at one thing: trolling Trump


[26-Feb-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his campaign entirely depends on his ads carrying him to suepr tuesday


[26-Feb-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these mics really do need pop filters


[26-Feb-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
klobuchar doesn't know what she's talking about


[26-Feb-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> Why would you spend this money and not prepare
i did that for my first year and my mom was not happy failing every course


[26-Feb-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it apparently takes 2 seconds and a broken calculator


[26-Feb-20 02:31 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Prepare for the big igloo?


[26-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a fucking brawl


[26-Feb-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
they barely attacked Sanders so far


[26-Feb-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
some concerns about paying for it, and I think Sanders' responses are weak af


[26-Feb-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders' responses rely on a Yale study. It's very memorable.


[26-Feb-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may not be a soundbite, but it works.


[26-Feb-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't need to completely defend himself, he just needs people to remember that he was the one with numbers.


[26-Feb-20 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the thing that would convince me is to do the 90 second rundown about externalities


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I bou-got that"


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmm


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
if not just that, he should talk about how it's immoral to deny people healthcare no matter what the cost is


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
neither of those things are his talking points


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who booed at "The problem is that they're billionaires"


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't respond to the moral argument


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives always argue on cost


[26-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to then undercut that entirely with facts.


[26-Feb-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
then do the externalities argument


[26-Feb-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
he has hinted at it, but he hasn't made it explicit


[26-Feb-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon yeah it's a clusterfuck


[26-Feb-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what's the point of time limits? no one follows them


[26-Feb-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Debates should just mute people


[26-Feb-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And strict time limits are stupid


[26-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But gotta get in those ad slots and compress it down to two hours I guess


[26-Feb-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
> Steyer, who is polling better in South Carolina than anywhere else, says he is worried that a Democratic socialist (Sanders) and a Republican (Bloomberg) can’t beat Trump.


[26-Feb-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast here i can take my headphones off during bloomberg ads


[26-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"hanging chads" heh


[26-Feb-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
don't you remember that controversy


[26-Feb-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_(paper)#Partially_punched_chad

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Chad refers to fragments sometimes created when holes are made in a paper, card or similar synthetic materials, such as computer punched tape or punched cards. CHAD is an acronym for Card Hole Accumulated Debris. "Chad" has been used both as a mass noun (as in "a pile of chad"...
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[26-Feb-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
> Warren has consistently brought up her push to end the filibuster in these debates. As I wrote last fall, it’s an idea that’s increasingly popular among Democrats, although interestingly Sanders has not been gung ho about it.


[26-Feb-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe because a filibuster is what made him famous?


[26-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it would be kinda hypocritical to support it now.


[26-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Uncle Dick in the Deer Stand" sounds like a porno


[26-Feb-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[26-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
furry porn if we're lucky, bestiality if we aren't.


[26-Feb-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
term limits aren't effective


[26-Feb-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
oh no lmao bloomberg about to get roasted


[26-Feb-20 02:53 AM] staticspark#3860
They are at making the parties stronger. At least politicians can fight the establishment when they are endlessly reelectable


[26-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine Trump being endlessly reelectable.


[26-Feb-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
he's going to die


[26-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
if only because he declared anyone who ran against him to be a heretic and a traitor to the country.


[26-Feb-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
"beating them last week"


[26-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Attempt at humor


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah! fuck time limits!


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can already predict the "biggest loser" of the debate will be the moderators...


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah...


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
wat, reparations for slavery


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
Bloomberg holding up that well?


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
not really


[26-Feb-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
but he's not getting all out attacked


[26-Feb-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so far he's basically kicking his own ass


[26-Feb-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> Maybe there should be a naked cowboy in every city!


[26-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Far East"


[26-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, that stood out


[26-Feb-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah they are not really attacking Sanders much at all


[26-Feb-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
...what are they hoping to get out of this?


[26-Feb-20 03:10 AM] jlun2#8758
old lost boomers?


[26-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
"until we know the science"


[26-Feb-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
...


[26-Feb-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
have I ever mentioned how much I _hate_ US prescription drug ads


[26-Feb-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[26-Feb-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putting my headphones back on was a mistake


[26-Feb-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have the bloombeg ads been getting lonnger?


[26-Feb-20 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[26-Feb-20 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
he can make them as long as he wants, really


[26-Feb-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, he could probably just make his ads one whole ad break long


[26-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He could just buy CBS


[26-Feb-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he could buy most channels, except disney


[26-Feb-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney would eat him


[26-Feb-20 03:21 AM] jlun2#8758
buy a rocket company and etch his name on the moon


[26-Feb-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney is waiting on the moon


[26-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it is the final boss of act 1.


[26-Feb-20 03:24 AM] staticspark#3860
I once had a Bloomberg ad forced on me, but I'm not allowed to talk about it
I'm under a NDA

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[26-Feb-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
democratic with a small "d"

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[26-Feb-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant understand anyone


[26-Feb-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders isn't doing so great


[26-Feb-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
> About two-thirds of Americans say it is likely that Russia or other foreign governments will attempt to influence the 2020 election. Among those who think it is likely, two-thirds say those attempts are a major problem, according to a January Pew Research Center poll. Among those who thought foreign influence was likely, 82 percent of Democrats saw it as a major problem, while only 39 percent of Republicans did.


[26-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
lol at the dependence


[26-Feb-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I think Bloomberg just self-owned


[26-Feb-20 03:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> Sanders isn't doing so great
so rip?


[26-Feb-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
he brought it back


[26-Feb-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
he's doing better now


[26-Feb-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't like his Cuba comments


[26-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's derailed


[26-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
still popular


[26-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Almost started a war with china


[26-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the crowd loves him


[26-Feb-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] loves biden?


[26-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[26-Feb-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I think he's an idiot


[26-Feb-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
meant the crowd you mentioned


[26-Feb-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
the comment chain confused me


[26-Feb-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah the crowd loves biden


[26-Feb-20 03:51 AM] staticspark#3860
I've always said I feel like even Bernie at his most unreasonable or unrealistic still has what he think is best for the American people at heart. IDK who else you can say that about nowadays


[26-Feb-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
would the biden crowd be a problem tomorrow


[26-Feb-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden screwed up


[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok but have you considered


[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bearded Bernie


[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
he looks really good honestly


[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people just can't grow bears though

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[26-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, i can't


[26-Feb-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tried planting a grizzly bear seed on my backyard


[26-Feb-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But it didn't grow as i expected


[26-Feb-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only got a cub


[26-Feb-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
-_-


[26-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Bernie as The Giver


[26-Feb-20 04:03 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Amazing


[26-Feb-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
actually looks kinda like... corbyn?


[26-Feb-20 04:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gerry Adams and Bernie Sanders fusion looks weird


[26-Feb-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's over


[26-Feb-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[26-Feb-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders defended himself but he wasn't spectacular


[26-Feb-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden played to the crowd


[26-Feb-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why did republicans just run a pro bernie ad?


[26-Feb-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They think they're doing big brained moves by splitting the dems


[26-Feb-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too bad a Bernie nomination would be a practical nightmare for Trump to handle


[26-Feb-20 04:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They want Bernie to win so they can play the Red scare cards.


[26-Feb-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It wasn't meant to be a pro-bernie ad


[26-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was quotes on him about Israel


[26-Feb-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which I guess stuff like "we shouldn't support mass executions of teen palestinians" is a contentious issue


[26-Feb-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
wow attacking the jewish person for criticizing the jewish government


[26-Feb-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
really makes ya thonk


[26-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was just bizarre


[26-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Ilhan Omar supports Bernie" ok...?


[26-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
“Die for Israphel”


[26-Feb-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I have no idea how there are so many jewish republicans


[26-Feb-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[26-Feb-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, what is with CBS and their shitty mics


[26-Feb-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
the mics were fine but the candidates really should have worn lapel mics or had pop filters on the podium mics


[26-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jewish Republicans are people who basically decided it's better to be part of the fascism than its targets.


[26-Feb-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've been over this repeatedly.


[26-Feb-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
there was so much noise especially from sanders who yells a lot


[26-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People always sell out when they see a chance for power, especially when the power targets their kin.


[26-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar now sounds like she's talking through a walkie-talkie


[26-Feb-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is the debate NOT OVER YET?


[26-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the interview part


[26-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar is touting her horn on attacking Bernie, but I literally don't remember a single thing she said


[26-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh shit son, Biden made a big mistake https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/democratic-debate-south-carolina/#263253

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Live coverage of Tuesday night's Democratic primary debate, hosted by CBS News in Charleston, South Carolina, ahead of the 2020 presidential election, featuring Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Tom Steyer.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DEMDEBATE_10-16x9-LIVE.png?w=575


[26-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
:oof: 
:oof2:


[26-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in case you don't know, Biden's main electability point is "I can beat Trump, Trump Trump Trump"


[26-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't say Trump at all.


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder how many people also noticed?


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And...they namedropped Bernie more than Trump lol.


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
in terms of who's mentioned


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone but Bernie: Bernie


[26-Feb-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie/Pete: Trump


[26-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a voter's mind now, it's Bernie v Trump


[26-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Biden v Bernie


[26-Feb-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really bad for people like Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I believe now I was right, @byte[]


[26-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't really assault Bernie. They hav no angle to.


[26-Feb-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He held up under what little pressure there was, and now all that changes is Bloomberg drops more.


[26-Feb-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hey may get a small boost if anything.


[26-Feb-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I think the crowd was massively unfair to him on the Castro question


[26-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[26-Feb-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's South Carolina


[26-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of place where little mountain retreats hide cold war bunkers.


[26-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie probably can't win it, but he will put up a very good 2nd place.


[26-Feb-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 24% to Biden's 26% or something.


[26-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
With people hearing "Bernie and Pete", then "Bernie", then "Bernie and Biden", that keeps Bernie as frontrunner.


[26-Feb-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the other thing is, I think his policy defenses, despite being detailed and fact based, weren't well received either


[26-Feb-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg will get screwed by the taxes thing I think.


[26-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fairly obvious he intends to withhold them until after a Super Tuesday win, Warren didn't need to say much on it.


[26-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well no, it's South Carolina


[26-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
all the people who want healthcare reform are so impoverished they can't participate in anything.


[26-Feb-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
an illiterate and uneducated voter base doesn't want to hear facts?


[26-Feb-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[26-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
An illiterate and uneducated voter base has no clue what's going on and won't show up to participate.


[26-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who show up can afford it all.


[26-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hav disowned the people who can't.


[26-Feb-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places like South Carolina are why there's such an issue.


[26-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
```Jewish Republicans```


[26-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
"Hey you know how that asshole claimed we are the hope enders, the civilisation destroyers, and so on so forth? That sounds absolutely awesome, how about we give it a shot?"


[26-Feb-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exactly.


[26-Feb-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
People when threatened, but offered a chance to join the threateners, often do.


[26-Feb-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the "They'll kill me last, or never, and I'll be rich, so sorry guys!" approach.


[26-Feb-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now of course, the thing that will win Bernie the South is just they really distrust the establishment, @byte[]


[26-Feb-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
hard not to


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They voted Hillary in 2016's primary cause she was seen as very moderate


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
the democrats have been keeping black people under their boots for a while now


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
the trouble for Biden is they've soured over time on that stuff


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats in the South no longer want Hillary 2


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And stuff like Roy Moore has the blakk voters fired up a little.


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
young black voters want sanders


[26-Feb-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
old black voters want biden


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young voters want Sanders period


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the typical generational divide


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old voters are hugely split between everything


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the oldest of the old sorta want Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But blakk voters want Biden or Sanders


[26-Feb-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem for Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He only does well when it's old white guys only.


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
His support comes from really awkward demographics.


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can get blakk voters, but Sanders can just siphon.


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
the thing you said to me a few weeks ago about biden being tolerably racist to black people to the point where you think black people will vote for him over sanders still isn't really making sense to me btw


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can almost kinda get women, but then Warren scoops them up.


[26-Feb-20 04:36 AM] jlun2#8758
> People when threatened, but offered a chance to join the threateners, often do.
> It's the "They'll kill me last, or never, and I'll be rich, so sorry guys!" approach.
I'm really curious on the people who don't.


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being *more* racist


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 it's called prisoner's dillema


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
look it up


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about being the *right amount of* racist.


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minority groups do not believe that racism can end.


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
so since sanders is less racist, he's not the right amount? :thonk:


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav lived under its oppressive force.


[26-Feb-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed, he is not, from the electability standpoint.


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I just don't get people


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what "electability" actually means in practice.


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so like


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say there are 2 voters


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a huge group of slaves


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 voter is liberal, 1 conservative


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the liberal voter says he'll end slavery


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
the conservative voter says he'll lead an armed rebellion to kill anyone that does


[26-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
one candidate says he'll end slavery


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other says he'll make slavery more tolerable


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 slave is let free, becoming a voter


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
oh


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
who should he vote for?


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
more prisoner's dilemma


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he votes for the candidate that ends slavery, slavery is attempted to be ended


[26-Feb-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the conservatives slaughter everyone


[26-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
if he votes for the candidate that makes slavery mildly better, then things get mildly better


[26-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and nobody gets slaughtered, but slavery is still in effect.


[26-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, he should logically *not* vote to end slavery.


[26-Feb-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite all his family being enslaved.


[26-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is analogous to the situation with Biden and Sanders.


[26-Feb-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
what's the negative payoff for a sanders vote


[26-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican state gov'ts doing everything in their power to stop all reform


[26-Feb-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And getting out racists *en masse* to vote their way.


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
trump 2.0 in 2024


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
A huge tidal wave of Trumpers who at times would outright kill blakks in the streets.


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who at the state level pass new Jim Crowe laws.


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, this may not happen


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
endless amount of trumpers


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it doesn't need to for the effect to exist.


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is about fear.


[26-Feb-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minority groups *do not believe* that equality can be done.


[26-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, Sanders is offering Equestria.


[26-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're like "that doesn't exist".


[26-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden meanwhile is saying he'll offer them Chicago.


[26-Feb-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's better than Detroit, so why not take it?


[26-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 50% of all Democratic policy and debates can boil down to "we hav to appease conservatives or they'll screw us over"


[26-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that appeasement actually works, Trump et al. are proof it doesn't.


[26-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that voters *believe* it works.


[26-Feb-20 04:44 AM] jlun2#8758
undying conservatives


[26-Feb-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders is gaining support because suddenly, conservatives look weak.


[26-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's real hope for change that stikks.


[26-Feb-20 04:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> conservatives look weak
I'm still amazed they're going strong tbh


[26-Feb-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Obama: A New Hope
Trump: The Empire Strikes Back
Sanders: Return of the [Progressives]


[26-Feb-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And do realize


[26-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders winning Nevada is a big, big deal.


[26-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly he looks "electable"


[26-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minority groups may start believing in actual change.


[26-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence abandoning the half-measures or no-measures of Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Sanders can win the South.


[26-Feb-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
I can understand I guess; I almost wanted to drop out, but then I passed Calc and suddenly the next courses looked more "doable"


[26-Feb-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Once Warren drops out, it's over.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren dropping out, endorsing Bernie, and becoming his VP pikk would be absolute doom for Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For anyone else.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone else has already lost.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
please Warren, drop


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
April.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
She might drop after SC


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think her strategy is to weaken Bloomberg before joining Sanders.


[26-Feb-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
She needed these two debates to do it.


[26-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
By being her own candidate, she got equal talking time to Sanders


[26-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If she dropped and became his VP pikk, she wouldn't've had that.


[26-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the only strategy that makes sense with what she's doing.


[26-Feb-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
(no way she could win on superdelegates)


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, lol Steyer


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
he got to meet Bernie again.


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would anyone drop after SC


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
To crush Bloomberg.


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just wait until Super Tuesday


[26-Feb-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is she'll endorse Bernie right before Super Tuesday as she drops.


[26-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At that point it's all over.


[26-Feb-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
One last shot against Bloomberg, timed correctly so he loses more.


[26-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-establishment-cant-bank-on-moderate-voters-consolidating-against-sanders/

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-establishment-cant-bank-on-moderate-voters-consolidating-against-sanders/
Why The Establishment Can’t Bank On ‘Moderate’ Voters Consolidating...
At this point in the Democratic primary, none of the moderate alternatives to Sen. Bernie Sanders has risen above the rest. Sanders has emerged from the first t…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/GettyImages-1198467668-16x9-1.jpg?w=575


[26-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Bernie's honest, many "moderates" are in fact just weirdos with conflicting positions who'll see Biden etc. as weak for not taking sides, and saying HE TOO LEFT doesn't work.


[26-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, when it was him vs. Hillary, the difference in their voters was primarily on "electability"


[26-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, Biden's supporters aren't necessarily a bunch of racists, they just think you need to be racist to actually win and do things.


[26-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence if Bernie looks electable, he has it in the bag, crushes Biden.


[26-Feb-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it is imperative that he keeps winning


[26-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he comes close to Biden in SC, it's doom for Biden.


[26-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Were he to somehow win it


[26-Feb-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would probably drop.


[26-Feb-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...4 days.


[26-Feb-20 05:13 AM] jlun2#8758
Do you think 4 years is enough for old trumpers to die off and be a smaller impact than the 2016 election, or still enough to get Trump 2024?


[26-Feb-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depends on where trump is in 4 years


[26-Feb-20 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump doesnt win, there will be a number of scenarios possible, 3 of which are that he attempts a dictatorial coup, flees to russia, or is put in prison


[26-Feb-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or he might die of a heart attack


[26-Feb-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whichever comes first


[26-Feb-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if trump manages to win this year, then we are fucked and one of his kids would be up for election in 2024


[26-Feb-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably be a sham election too


[26-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He means on this election


[26-Feb-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would also probably be jared kushner because Trump adores him and not trump Jr.


[26-Feb-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[26-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are less Boomers, Gen Z is starting to get into voting.


[26-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials are actually electing people like Oscasio-Cortez.


[26-Feb-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
assuming democrats can't redistrict her seat away from her


[26-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Trump's base is dwindling all that fast


[26-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
but a few points matters.


[26-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Trump won in the EC on very tiny margins in a few key states.


[26-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Losing that removes his potential for reelection.


[26-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Superdelegates plus EC made people angry as shit.


[26-Feb-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders is running on that anger.


[26-Feb-20 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Seems pretty likely he'll still win


[26-Feb-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's path to reelection would be crazy.


[26-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd need the same results as before despite less support, despite Bernie being a better candidate, despite the position of anger favoring Bernie, despite Florida allowing ex-felons to vote, etc.


[26-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would need to massively rig the election at this point to make it a sure win.


[26-Feb-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's right now a sure loss.


[26-Feb-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not so sure


[26-Feb-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the media likes to fuck with things


[26-Feb-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump was a sure loss against Clinton


[26-Feb-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505

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https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505
2 Florida Democrats sue to keep Sanders off primary ballot
The complaint says the candidate is unqualified in a closed-primary state.
https://static.politico.com/4f/c6/095b472647659be995603f6e4034/ap-19230691530566.jpg


[26-Feb-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
will that even work


[26-Feb-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought lawyers were like snails


[26-Feb-20 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are many of them and they show up whenever it rains?


[26-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean you can file a lawsuit sure.


[26-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
for something like this, a final verdict can be expected at approx 2025.


[26-Feb-20 05:32 AM] jlun2#8758
not to mention it's bait for those who keep saying "the establishment is rigged"


[26-Feb-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
no, he's registered as a democrat


[26-Feb-20 05:34 AM] Opponent#3498
it'll take them a bit to reach this conclusion.


[26-Feb-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
the salt from boomers is insane


[26-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, I think it was you who asked me what I think of Sanders. Well I have a different answer now. If  he ever said he was against EC/superdelegates, and more recent stuff like the whole caucus business, I'd vote for him based on that alone.


[26-Feb-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, yes, and yes


[26-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Treascair#7785
to quote a legal podcast I listen to (and echoing a furry lawyer on top of it), "you CAN sue for anything you damn well please.  Whether or not you win is a whole other matter."


[26-Feb-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGymiFlyl0E

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ABC Action News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGymiFlyl0E
Biden accidentally tells crowd he's a Democratic candidate for Unit...
Speaking to a South Carolina crowd just days before the state's primary election, former Vice President Joe Biden mistakenly told the audience he was a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xGymiFlyl0E/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] this is the same mistake Its makes. You're assuming that the sure loss is from the media, but I'm saying the default expectation is a repeat of Trump's last performance. His last performance was a narrow EC-based win against one of the worst candidates Democrats could run; a repeat of it would be a Sanders win.


[26-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you then apply what's changed since then, it's almost all negative for Trump.


[26-Feb-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/us/politics/south-carolina-debate-audience.html

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By Jeremy W. Peters
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/us/politics/south-carolina-debate-audience.html
With Tickets $1,750, Debate Audiences Are Elite of the Elite. But T...
Getting into one of the Democratic debates is like getting a ticket to the Super Bowl or the World Series.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/25/us/politics/-25vid-debate-clip-5/-25vid-debate-clip-5--facebookJumbo.jpg


[26-Feb-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that the audience are likely the same people who think that bernie's gonna mass execute them in central park


[26-Feb-20 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah so they likely booed _less_ than they could have xD


[26-Feb-20 11:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-goes-after-juror-in-stone-case-as-judge-takes-precautions-2020-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-goes-after-juror-in-stone-case-as-judge-takes-precautions-2020-2
Trump goes after Roger Stone juror as judge says the risk of intimi...
President Trump's tweet further complicates the Stone case, where a judge put in place restrictions to protect jurors ahead of a retrial hearing.
https://i.insider.com/5e558586fee23d55613ec644?width=1200&format=jpeg


[26-Feb-20 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After 2016 I don't take anything for granted and predictions ain't worth a damn


[26-Feb-20 11:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't think Trump would win the nomination let alone the presidency, the notion was like an absurd fever dream or the subplot for a Demolition Man type campy movie


[26-Feb-20 11:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yet here we are


[26-Feb-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.pewforum.org/2020/01/22/what-americans-know-about-the-holocaust/

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Travis Mitchell
https://www.pewforum.org/2020/01/22/what-americans-know-about-the-holocaust/
What Americans Know About the Holocaust
Most U.S. adults know what the Holocaust was and approximately when it happened, but fewer than half can correctly answer multiple-choice questions about the number of Jews who were murdered or the way Adolf Hitler came to power, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. ...
https://www.pewforum.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/01/PF_20.01.22_holocaustKnowledge_featured.jpg


[26-Feb-20 12:32 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can we ever get reliable news?


[26-Feb-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biases exist, i usually go to AP, business insider, reuters, and thehill. and even those arent bias free


[26-Feb-20 12:33 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm tired of all the stories that most news sites are alleged to have some form of wing bias, and of course, fake news


[26-Feb-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're the least biased, but they;re still slightly biased


[26-Feb-20 12:34 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What I don't like is the fake news


[26-Feb-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what kind of fake news?


[26-Feb-20 12:34 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The ones that are non political


[26-Feb-20 12:35 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But told lies to


[26-Feb-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like the inquisitor type magazines?


[26-Feb-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tabloids are crap, no one should read those for actuall news


[26-Feb-20 12:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Nah, what I'm interested is global events, technology, and I think that's it


[26-Feb-20 12:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Global events like it could be in any country


[26-Feb-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/apf-intlnews currently dominated by the coronavirus but here;s one international news source

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International News
News from The Associated Press, the definitive source for independent journalism from every corner of the globe.
https://apnews.com/images/ShareLogo2.png


[26-Feb-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also know a source for leaked north korean news that is dangerous to the journalists reporting it, but i need to remember the name


[26-Feb-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dailynk.com/english/

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DailyNK
https://www.dailynk.com/english/
Fast and Accurate North Korea News - Daily NK
Launched in 2004 and based in Seoul, Daily NK is a non-profit organization provides news about North Korea from a wide range of sources inside North Korea.
https://www.dailynk.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Capture.png


[26-Feb-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
found it


[26-Feb-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/International

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International
Get the latest international news and world events from Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and more. See world news photos and videos at ABCNews.com


[26-Feb-20 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would not reccomend cnn or fox news for this kind of news however


[26-Feb-20 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
msnbc is very debateable at the moment


[26-Feb-20 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.technewsworld.com/ technology news

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https://www.technewsworld.com/
TechNewsWorld: All Tech - All The Time
The most important technology news, developments and trends with insightful analysis and commentary. Coverage includes computer hardware, software, mobile apps and devices, personal technology, cybersecurity and emerging tech for businesses and consumers.


[26-Feb-20 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/tech/

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https://www.usatoday.com/tech/
Technology News Today - USATODAY.com
Power up with the latest tech news, including personal technology, electronics, gaming and computers, from the experts at USA TODAY.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/sites/usatoday/images/footer-logo@2x.png


[26-Feb-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-iran-s-reported-mortality-rate-coronavirus-higher-other-countries-n1142646

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-iran-s-reported-mortality-rate-coronavirus-higher-other-countries-n1142646
Iran's high reported mortality rate for coronavirus raises questions
Iran's reported mortality rate for the illness — about 16 percent — surpasses the rate for other countries by a dramatic margin.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_09/3243806/200225-tehran-iran-disinfect-sunway-coronavirus-ew-322p_92ad918df4ce392adfb589eb6b6774cd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Feb-20 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What I'm *really* worried about is when this shit hits India or Bangladesh


[26-Feb-20 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Places with very high population dense cities and rather poor hygiene


[26-Feb-20 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[26-Feb-20 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a nightmare i hadnt thought of


[26-Feb-20 12:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This bug isn't much more deadly than normal a normal flu, but no vaccine for it to help vulnerable group, has a long life outside of hosts, and contagious but asymptomatic for two-three weeks


[26-Feb-20 01:11 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Teaspoon it's really vulnerable to the very poor


[26-Feb-20 01:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Hence of the lack of information in some rural areas


[26-Feb-20 01:13 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But they can still read newspapers, and listen to radio


[26-Feb-20 01:13 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So they can actually get informed


[26-Feb-20 01:52 PM] Crow#5457
... being in the newspaper or on the radio doesn't make it automatically more reliable than any other methods of getting information


[26-Feb-20 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
if anything, it can make it harder to correct released information that turns out to be wrong later


[26-Feb-20 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
at least in the case of newspapers


[26-Feb-20 02:03 PM] byte[]#2610
it's more reliable than the average boomer facebook meme


[26-Feb-20 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I realize that's not a high bar but we are living in the misinformation age


[26-Feb-20 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll take what I can get


[26-Feb-20 02:15 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
“The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards the development of convenient half-truths.”


[26-Feb-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/democratic-debate-south-carolina.html

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By Frank Bruni
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/democratic-debate-south-carolina.html
Opinion | The Democratic Party Devours Itself
At a raucous debate, Bernie Sanders was the target, but who really got hurt?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/26/opinion/26bruni1/26bruni1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[26-Feb-20 02:42 PM] byte[]#2610
> The Democrats seem to be placing emphasis on the last four letters.

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[26-Feb-20 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
what I mean is that online news articles from properly vetted sources aren't any less reliable than news articles in newspapers


[26-Feb-20 02:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, but nobody reads those


[26-Feb-20 02:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They read nypost, the sun, daily mirror, _at best_


[26-Feb-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden's highlight of last night was making a small penis joke about Xi Jingping


[26-Feb-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
change my mind


[26-Feb-20 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitching at the moderators was also fun


[26-Feb-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
To be fair


[26-Feb-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
The moderators were useless


[26-Feb-20 03:21 PM] byte[]#2610
They should have cut the candidates' mics


[26-Feb-20 03:31 PM] byte[]#2610
> People being mean on Twitter to reporters is a tragedy, but children in concentration camps is fine, apparently.


[26-Feb-20 03:35 PM] ononim#8141
But byte!


[26-Feb-20 03:36 PM] ononim#8141
The reporters are white and wealthy!


[26-Feb-20 03:36 PM] ononim#8141
Unlike those children things you talk about


[26-Feb-20 03:37 PM] byte[]#2610
but, the children are brown so they don't deserve rights, onon


[26-Feb-20 04:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/17/disney-cartoon-owl-house-branded-demonic-evil-christian-group-16000-sign-petition-removal-12257840/

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Tilly Pearce
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/17/disney-cartoon-owl-house-branded-demonic-evil-christian-group-16000-sign-petition-removal-12257840/
Disney cartoon The Owl House branded 'demonic' as 16,000 sign petit...
One Million Moms demanded Disney remove the show from the schedule.
https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/PRI_139243094_1581990343.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1200&h=630&crop=1&zoom=1&ssl=1


[26-Feb-20 04:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fucking boomers


[26-Feb-20 05:01 PM] illumnious#7938
As Trump paints rosy picture of coronavirus, his own health officials sound alarm https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-rosy-view-coronavirus-contrasts-his-own-health-officials-n1142601

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-rosy-view-coronavirus-contrasts-his-own-health-officials-n1142601
As Trump paints rosy picture of coronavirus, his own health officia...
The president could be heading into the peak of his re-election bid with the virus affecting economic growth and depressing the stock market.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_09/3243611/200225-donald-trump-al-1354_060cb2c99990b93cbb89442f525e6afd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Feb-20 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Re-election my ass


[26-Feb-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://politics.theonion.com/sanders-unveils-job-training-program-to-provide-meaning-1841328164

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https://politics.theonion.com/sanders-unveils-job-training-program-to-provide-meaning-1841328164
Sanders Unveils Job-Training Program To Provide Meaningful Work To ...
WASHINGTON—Explaining that as president he would ensure his policies didn’t leave any Americans behind, Senator Bernie Sanders reportedly unveiled plans Wednesday for a job-training program that would provide meaningful work to low-skilled op-ed writers. “I understand that if ...
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[26-Feb-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://politics.theonion.com/bloomberg-housekeepers-brace-for-another-day-of-dressin-1841816831

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NEW YORK—Standing behind podiums scattered around the living room, Mike Bloomberg’s housekeepers braced for another day of dressing up like DNC candidates and letting their boss beat them in a debate, sources confirmed Thursday. “I’m supposed to be polishing the silver today, ...
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[26-Feb-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
here is the picture I was thinking of yesterday https://i.redd.it/su26vp4b96841.jpg

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[26-Feb-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
"I have cast some lonely votes, fought some lonely fights, mounted some lonely campaigns. But I do not feel lonely now."


[26-Feb-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/texas-gop-official-compares-lgbtq-republicans-to-murderers-and-burglars-in-unhinged-facebook-rant/amp/


[26-Feb-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
always crazies out there


[26-Feb-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Feb-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shitty source, but, https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-suspends-david-wright-for-remarks-made-in-project-veritas-video-report

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ABC News suspends David Wright for remarks made in Project Veritas ...
ABC News has suspended veteran Washington correspondent David Wright for remarks he made that were captured on video by Project Veritas.
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[26-Feb-20 05:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why you booing him he's right


[26-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
> "Any action that damages our reputation for fairness and impartiality or gives the appearance of compromising it harms ABC News and the individuals involved," t


[26-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
um


[26-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
you made yourself look _more biased_ by reassigning him


[26-Feb-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman do the million mom group ever succeed outside making mothers look really bad and backwards


[26-Feb-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
and I assume fathers are apathetic like me and just throw kids a tablet to shut them up


[26-Feb-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Who the fuck rely on rump anyway?

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[26-Feb-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/you-might-not-want-rely-trump-information-about-risk-coronavirus/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram


[26-Feb-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one million moms used to be a threatening force


[26-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484725-rasmussen-poll-trump-leads-sanders-by-7-points-in-general-election-matchup

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Rasmussen poll: Trump leads Sanders by 7 points in general election...
A GOP-leaning poll shows that President Trump would defeat Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by seven points in a general election should the election happen today.
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[26-Feb-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nowadays it's mostly hot air screaming at corporations who dont give a shit about their existence because they can survive without the religious community


[26-Feb-20 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
7% undecided


[26-Feb-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"we'll stop watching your channel if you dont take this show off the air" is less of a threat when a dozen other communities will gladly watch the shows they like thus filling in for your lost ratings


[26-Feb-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the orginization has lost their parental power anyway due to their children growing up and moving out.. assuming they ever had children anyway


[26-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
BET is the most racist television network I have ever laid eyes upon


[26-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
jesus christ


[26-Feb-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah...


[26-Feb-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
how do people fund this??


[26-Feb-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tyler perry


[26-Feb-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also it;s owned by viacom


[26-Feb-20 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess spongebob funds it?


[26-Feb-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BET#Criticism it is also widely criticized as horribly racist by many, many people

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[26-Feb-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjj7VJpqy1w

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Seth takes a closer look at some pundits and members of the Democratic establishment panicking after Bernie Sanders won the Nevada caucus in a landslide.

Subscribe to Late Night: http://bit.ly/LateNightSeth
 
Watch Late Night with Seth Meyers Weeknights 12:35/11:35c on NBC.
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[26-Feb-20 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Damn, flu spread fast in italy...


[26-Feb-20 07:32 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russian-women-pleading-for-legislation-to-halt-epidemic-of-domestic-assault-1.5437241


[26-Feb-20 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
> Given the savagery of what Margarita Gracheva's husband did to her, you'd think Russian lawmakers would want to stop it from happening to other women.
> Instead, attitudes toward legislating tougher laws on domestic violence remain stuck in another century.
> Two years ago, Gracheva's husband cut off both of her hands, leaving the 27-year-old mother of two mutilated for life.
> "I still have pain. It hurts and aches, but you get used to it," Gracheva told CBC News in her St. Petersburg home, flexing the fingers on her artificial hand, which is attached to her right arm at the wrist.
> The black fingers and silver joints give the German-made device an almost skeletal look, but it is dexterous enough for Gracheva to grasp small objects — after some practice.
> Her left hand, meanwhile, is wrapped in a bandage and also clearly far from normal, visibly scarred and only partially functioning. But at least it allows her to once again feel her children's skin.
> "I still have a problem [combing] hair," she said. "But really, happiness is in the little things."
> Gracheva has emerged as one of the most high-profile victims of Russia's epidemic of domestic violence, and has given a powerful voice to the frustrations felt by women's advocates who have tried for years to get stronger domestic violence legislation passed.
> "There is no law now — nothing exists," Gracheva said. "There is only help if there are beatings or a dead body. I don't know how many more tragic cases have to happen for that to change."


[26-Feb-20 07:38 PM] ononim#8141
> The domestic violence law may be another casualty of Russia's ideological battle with the West. Popova said opponents often portray such social initiatives as caving into "liberal" or "western" thinking.
> "The situation in our country is crazy. We have two different points of view — that violence should be prohibited and that violence is our traditional value," she said. "'Yes, I can beat my kids, but I am the father and I can do that, because I have authority as a parent."
> The most formidable opponents have come from Russia's Orthodox church movements.
> Hundreds of people in Moscow recently attended a rally at the Christ the Saviour Cathedral in opposition to the proposed new legislation. Some who spoke at the event appeared to equate punishing spousal assault with issues such as gay rights or same-sex marriage.
> "Those who are lobbying for this law are enemies of Russia, the enemies of the family," said Natalya Reutova, who spoke at the meeting. "This law can lead to the fact that our young generation will not want to create a family and bear children."
> Other comments seemed like they were from another era.
> "Everything may happen in a family. Maybe even if the husband beats the wife — if it's not very hard — she'll come to her senses," said another woman, who wouldn't give her name.
> Andrei Kromukhin, the leader of an Orthodox conservative group called Sorok Sorokov, suggested the state has no business regulating what goes on inside a family unit, no matter how extreme. And he suggested that Margarita Gracheva has become a pawn in a much bigger fight between "western" and Russian values.


[26-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/public-safety-minister-calls-actions-at-tyendinaga-blockade-unsafe-and-inappropriate-1.4828611

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Public safety minister calls actions at Tyendinaga blockade 'unsafe...
As protesters in Tyendinaga, Ont. continue to cause disruptions on CN Rail tracks in the area, Public Safety Minister Bill Blair says their actions are "unsafe and inappropriate."
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[26-Feb-20 07:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Standing on railroad tracks unsafe


[26-Feb-20 07:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In other news the sky is blue


[26-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
```"This law can lead to the fact that our young generation will not want to create a family and bear children."```


[26-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
😂


[26-Feb-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
<insert animated hoof-pounding emote here>


[26-Feb-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
kids are financial black holes anyways.


[26-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>having money for children


[26-Feb-20 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking boomers

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[26-Feb-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i for one will have 20 cats instead of children, it is the american dream


[26-Feb-20 08:20 PM] jlun2#8758
crazy cat guy


[26-Feb-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-benefit-death-suicide-reports-cover-ups-government-conservatives-a9359606.html

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DWP destroyed reports into people who killed themselves after benef...
Up to 50 reviews into deaths following harsh social security cuts and sanctions have been shredded, officials admit
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[26-Feb-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Feb-20 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Le Mormongol Empire has arrived https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/02/24/utah-lawmakers-advance/

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Utah lawmakers advance yurt deregulation bill
After stumbling during its first public hearing last week, a somewhat watered-down yurt deregulation bill passed through a legislative committee Monday and is headed to the House floor for further consideration.
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[26-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Tumultuous#2853
It's weird the first time you realise that "if the guy I don't like gets to be in charge of my opponents, then more people will be against him and be less likely to be persuaded by people who are less extreme, but still people with policies I dislike".


[26-Feb-20 08:59 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Wait. "Yurt Deregulation"?


[26-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I'd say these are wild times, but that's an offensively boring amount of regulation.


[26-Feb-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I had to look up what the hell a yurt was


[26-Feb-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yurts are a weird cross between a hut and a tent


[26-Feb-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Feb-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the insides look cozy


[26-Feb-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Better than where I live...


[26-Feb-20 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah those are fancy middle class yurts for white people who can't throat sing


[26-Feb-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again a cargo container is better than where I live


[26-Feb-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Feb-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[26-Feb-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is a more usual yurt


[26-Feb-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they still look pretty comfy


[26-Feb-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Feb-20 11:10 PM] jlun2#8758
rich people tents


[26-Feb-20 11:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/939ndz/idaho-bill-will-send-doctors-to-prison-for-life-for-treating-trans-kids

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New Bill Will Send Doctors to Prison for Life for Treating Trans Kids
Idaho's HB 465 is the most extreme anti-trans medical care bill this year.
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[26-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Another shooting in a US school


[26-Feb-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was not a school; was a brewery


[26-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently "campus" can be used for schools AND breweries, who knew


[26-Feb-20 11:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim and if they pass, I assume there's no way to revert in my lifetime right?


[26-Feb-20 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
tbh I am not well versed in how us bill can be reverted


[26-Feb-20 11:44 PM] ononim#8141
pretty sure othe regulars here know more about it


[26-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie https://www.newsweek.com/black-voters-prefer-bernie-sanders-over-all-other-democratic-candidates-new-poll-shows-1489209

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Black voters prefer Bernie Sanders over all other Democratic candid...
The Vermont senator has strengthened his lead and surpassed Joe Biden in support from black voters.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1569551/elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders-joe-biden.jpg


[26-Feb-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
It might be game over for Biden now


[26-Feb-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1222849290785251329

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For nearly 50 years, @JoeBiden has publicly pretended to have been a part of the Civil Rights Movement.

He's not "exaggerating" or "embellishing," he is creating entire fictional storylines to impress white liberals & connect w/ Black voters. 

It must be confronted

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[27-Feb-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good god, he just never stops lying and plagiarizing


[27-Feb-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets worse with every video


[27-Feb-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
why would he stop?


[27-Feb-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
push the envelope until you can't is the only reasonable choice


[27-Feb-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx random CNN guy for reminding us it's ash wednesday

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[27-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Sev3617#4685
Ash?


[27-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Sev3617#4685
Wdym


[27-Feb-20 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday

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[27-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Sev3617#4685
Is that why that thing is on that guy’s forehead


[27-Feb-20 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's when some christian branches decide that beef and pork is bad for a few weeks


[27-Feb-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But not fish


[27-Feb-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody has the balls to be vegetarian


[27-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Sev3617#4685
I rarely eat meat but I’ll eat whatever


[27-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Sev3617#4685
Unless it’s feces


[27-Feb-20 12:34 AM] Sev3617#4685
:aureliawheeze:


[27-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
ash directly on the skin is dangerous btw.


[27-Feb-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ash [-] is dangerous btw


[27-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though it's not like christians are dunking infants in a barrel of ash


[27-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a big deal if it's like, on clothing.


[27-Feb-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it gets wet while interacting with skin oils, it becomes caustic.


[27-Feb-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can wash your hands with a bit of wet ash, but you hav to get rid of it very fast.


[27-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, slightly sweaty forehead


[27-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
ash marking


[27-Feb-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
you could burn yourself.


[27-Feb-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that religions are basically just longstanding cults.


[27-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are documented cases of that yes


[27-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
STIGMATA obvs


[27-Feb-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
DA LORD MARKED ME HURRR


[27-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like, no, you put shit on your skin you shouldn't.


[27-Feb-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then again, chemistry is basically magic to most Christians.


[27-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's surprising if they even notice things happening.


[27-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pressers with Pence always look like he's puppeting him

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[27-Feb-20 12:46 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie 
> But then again, chemistry is basically magic to most Christians.
I feel like there's a market for glow sticks shaped like a cross or something now


[27-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make something glowy and skin-safe that doesn't easily wipe or wash off


[27-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
sell it in cross-shaped patches


[27-Feb-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christians would buy it in droves.


[27-Feb-20 12:48 AM] ononim#8141

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[27-Feb-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484851-giuliani-asked-for-post-9-11-mayoral-election-to-be-canceled-so-he-could-stay

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Rudy Giuliani asked then-New York Gov. George Pataki to cancel New York City’s 2001 mayoral election so he could stay in office after the Sept.
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[27-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow fuck you CNN


[27-Feb-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The actual experts start talking and they cut to pundits


[27-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Scientist just blew Trump's lie the fuck away in his face by saying vaccine could take 18 months


[27-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could there be a chance of it just fading by summer?


[27-Feb-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
no


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will absolutely cause a Southeast Asian recession.


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
India to Indonesia to China will be in recession.


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This will cause a minor recession in the west too.


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh boy, that rumor is built on the rumor Trump spread that the virus will just die off in the summer heat, which I'm speculating is based on the rumor China was spreading that the virus can be killed off "with heat"


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
India is gonna eat shit once it hits


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] jlun2#8758
any cases in india?


[27-Feb-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are cases almost everywhere now.


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Iran looks to be the route it's taking into the Middle East.


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
China has been surpressing knowledge of it since day one.


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Worth noting that the death rate for the virus is still 2%


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is *crazy* high


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The virus can be killed with heat? So *THAT'S* why China got all those incinerators!


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The population density in India and their, well, lax hygiene


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and probably underreported


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gonna be a literal shitshow


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places like Vietnam and Thailand will be devastated.


[27-Feb-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most people are likely to get it, but 2% is manageable compared to other outbreaks in history


[27-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EVERY virus can be beat by heat


[27-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the whole point of fevers


[27-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Your body doesn't overheat for shits and giggles, it's a defence mechanism


[27-Feb-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've heard people (including one who suspects he may have contracted it) repeating the idea that this really isn't any more dangerous than the usual "flu." Because none of these people realize that influenza is a fatal disease that we've gotten under control through immunization and proper hygiene. Two things that are definitely *not* the case in the regions the coronavirus - with its unusually long survival time outside a host, and its long period of contagion without symptoms - is about to hit


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I say "about to" in the sense that it's probably already hit them, they just haven't noticed yet


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How much can viruses mutate under conditions of lax hygiene?


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tooooons


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For the worse that is


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Virus mutation is dependent only on reproduction rate.


[27-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rate here is somewhat small.


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically, the more a virus spreads, the greater its chance of mutation


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's unlikely to change much before it goes away.


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's moderately more lethal than a normal flu but not alarmingly so


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
assuming you have adequate care


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But yeah, the lil shitter can take 3 weeks to manifest


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the while you're contagious


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asia will be pretty screwed up for a year or two.


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Africa might be too.


[27-Feb-20 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, "normal flu" is still very much lethal


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
people like to forget about that


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've been coughing a lot in the past few days but i doubt that's related to the virus


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm on a road trip with my mom


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude, you'll know when you get a flu


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That shit make your body hurt


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And we're switching biomes fast


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I remember the last time i got flu


[27-Feb-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like a gang played hacky-sack with you


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stayed confined to the sofa for quite a few hours


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
After coming home exhausted


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the countries to watch right now are Egypt and Bangladesh


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then went to the hospital, stayed there for five freaking hours because blood testing was hard due to my blood coagulating too fast for some reason


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
if they get large outbreaks, Africa and India respectively are screwed.


[27-Feb-20 01:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet, last year, I *still* had a coworker try to show up for their shift while exhibiting can-barely-stand flu symptoms because "they couldn't afford to be sick."


[27-Feb-20 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oof


[27-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are bangladesh is already fucked and they just won't be able to tell for a few weeks


[27-Feb-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not a great place


[27-Feb-20 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can hope the shock from the outbreak could lend further credence to affordable healthcare proposals


[27-Feb-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I doubt it, the agency that's supposed to handle this kind of thing in the US was gutted in 2018


[27-Feb-20 01:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And given what current trump supporters have to say about coronavirus, I don't think even the death of their firstborn would convince them that Trump is wrong and that they should change their vote to someone who actually supports the CDC and universal healthcare


[27-Feb-20 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
their solution is more likely going to be "the US should just close its borders"


[27-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/25/dow-futures-bounce-slightly-as-wall-street-attempts-comeback-from-monster-2-day-slide.html

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Dow falls more than 100 points as market's attempt to rebound from ...
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell, extending its sharp weekly decline, as the 10-year Treasury yield traded at a record low.
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[27-Feb-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
> “Unfortunately, I think this is going to turn into a full-blown correction,” David Bianco, chief investment strategist for the Americas at DWS, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.” “It’s a material impact to our earnings outlook and it’s probably going to be another year of flatish earnings growth.”


[27-Feb-20 01:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"flatish earnings growth"


[27-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why does that guy have a flag patch


[27-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's a fucking stock market trader not a navy seaman


[27-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
because MURICA


[27-Feb-20 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's a soldier in the war on...


[27-Feb-20 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhhhh


[27-Feb-20 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bad stocks?


[27-Feb-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably some guy who thought it made him look liek a badass military man without having to join it


[27-Feb-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like those people who wear pilot shades to look liek airforce pilots without ever having been in the airforce


[27-Feb-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-says-coronavirus-vaccine-may-not-be-affordable-2020-2

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The Trump administration says the coronavirus vaccine might not be ...
Democratic leaders have criticized President Donald Trump's response to the coronavirus as "anemic" and inadequate.
https://i.insider.com/5bd1d2209e1e11155736a8c3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Feb-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-officials-coronavirus-could-help-america-first-agenda-economy-impact-2020-2-1028943072

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White House officials express hopes that coronavirus will advance '...
For some administration officials, the coronavirus outbreak could present an economic opening in the US. As President Donald Trump vies for re-e...
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[27-Feb-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like trump is getting ready to extort the sick for profit and international leverage...


[27-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484858-trump-names-pence-to-lead-coronavirus-response

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Trump names Pence to lead coronavirus response
President Trump on Wednesday tapped Vice President Mike Pence to lead the government response to the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pencemike_trumpdonald_02262020getty.jpg


[27-Feb-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think holy water will cut it

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[27-Feb-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking it never stopped people from holy watering


[27-Feb-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ash might!


[27-Feb-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly the coronavirus just needs shock therapy


[27-Feb-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So on the affordability thing


[27-Feb-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a classic conservative move


[27-Feb-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
see, if conservatives say "we won't let you get the vaccine" they look evil


[27-Feb-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if they make someone else, who happens to be their buddy, responsible instead


[27-Feb-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they can say "well it's on that person to make you able to get it".


[27-Feb-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way, they can deny something people need to not fukking die, and yet also completely redirect blame onto others, and profit from doing so.


[27-Feb-20 01:52 AM] jlun2#8758
unending cycle


[27-Feb-20 01:53 AM] jlun2#8758
also given certain parts of america hate vaccines i wonder would it affect those areas, or nah too far away


[27-Feb-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not an unending cycle.


[27-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people put 2 and 2 together, they get really mad at the conservative trying to launder responsibility.


[27-Feb-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel as though trump will be firing major staff at the CDC in the next few days


[27-Feb-20 02:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) well of course. The Center for Disease Control is for diseases, not acts of god. They're useless in this case.


[27-Feb-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt fighting the coronavirus, he's fighting the alerts and trying to keep the stock markets up for re-election


[27-Feb-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if people start dying en masse, he wont give a fuck as long as the stock markets rise again


[27-Feb-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trying-halt-coronavirus-stock-slide-angry-cdc-2020-2

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Trump is said to be furious at grim official warnings about coronav...
As the coronavirus continues to spread across Europe, and threatens the US, Trump is reportedly raging about warnings from his own government.
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[27-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484843-push-for-national-popular-vote-movement-gets-boost-from-conservatives

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Push for national popular vote movement gets boost from conservatives
Leaders of a new conservative campaign advocating for the national popular vote movement are seeking to promote the effort at the annual Conservative Political Action Conf
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[27-Feb-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The group argues that in current presidential campaign culture, a disproportionate amount of attention is given to battleground states over the rest of the country. They argue a national popular vote system would be more equitable.

“Let's be honest, we don't elect a president of the United States. We elect a president of the battleground states under the current method,” Lennox said."


[27-Feb-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
President of Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota.


[27-Feb-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
found that article again <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7941013/Pastor-says-believes-coronavirus-plague-sent-God-purge-lot-sin-planet.html>


[27-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484858-trump-names-pence-to-lead-coronavirus-response

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Trump names Pence to lead coronavirus response
President Trump on Wednesday announced that Vice President Pence would lead the administration’s coronavirus response, seeking to bolster public confidence after days of mixed messages from top officials.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pencemike_trumpdonald_02262020getty.jpg


[27-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did he up the amount of fake tan on his face?


[27-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He looks like he's in a bad cartoon.


[27-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, posted earlier.


[27-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
oh oops


[27-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JasonOverstreet/status/1232330371418558469

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A lot of Bernie supporters are saying they want Warren to be his VP. That’s because they want her to finish all of his homework for him.
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[27-Feb-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are Warren supporters like this


[27-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
wow, all those anti-bernie replies


[27-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't even pro-warren


[27-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
they're just attacking bernie


[27-Feb-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders supporters: Feel the Bern
warren supporters: Feel the Salt


[27-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren supporters are people who want Bernie's policies, but think it's time for women to flip the tables on men.


[27-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They reject that Bernie has really accomplished anything, and point to what Warren does in the Senate...which is exactly what Bernie does, basically.


[27-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is just reactionary sexism from SJUWs.


[27-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who wanted Hillary because "she's a woman" and to them stuff like gay rights was an afterthought.


[27-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically "Half of the billionaire CEOs that exploit their workers should be WOMEN"


[27-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[27-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really like


[27-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
"we should tax CEOS, but not as much as Bernie would, and use the money to fund women becoming other rich CEOs"


[27-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Warren doesn't work as a candidate


[27-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
next to Bernie, she just looks like half-measures unless you're weirdly sexist against men.


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie wasn't running, she'd be raking in the votes like mad.


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related, I've heard people describe Klobuchar as "Hillary, but boring and without baggage"


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely not.


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So an absolute nothing


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar is more racist than Hillary, she's like Beto.


[27-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd lokk up all the blakks in a heartbeat and say racism is solved.


[27-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's also the Senate's most effective bill-passer.


[27-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[27-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie does her homework


[27-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
she takes credit while her tongue's deep in McConnel's slimy asshole


[27-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yet somehow people still don't know who the hell she is.


[27-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really weird situation.


[27-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess she's one of those "don't rokk the federal boat, make waves bakk home" Senators.


[27-Feb-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The complete opposite of McConnel


[27-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why she thinks she's not the new Walter Mondale is anyone's guess.


[27-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe she's trying to get a Biden cabinet position by helping him incinerate Pete.


[27-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdpxKcflza4

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Fox News
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Trump takes coronavirus questions, says virus response shouldn't be...
President Trump tweeted this morning that he will hold this news conference along with representatives of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. #FoxNews

FOX News operates the FOX News Channel (FNC), FOX Business Network (FBN), FOX News Radio, FOX News Headlines 24/7...
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[27-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic


[27-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get angry at thing happening because it might hurt your image, intentionally underrespond to it and try to misinform, then when people get mad, say "THIS SHOULDN'T BE POLITICAL THAT I AM ENDANGERING AMERICAN LIVES"


[27-Feb-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie did you see the poll I linked?


[27-Feb-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it wasn't surprising.


[27-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, the moment Bernie looks "electable", it all falls apart for Biden.


[27-Feb-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment came in Nevada.


[27-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People said all the same shit about Trump


[27-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same arguments, same concern trolling


[27-Feb-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if after his election if it happens if people will finally say civility doesn't matter


[27-Feb-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/484883-coronavirus-cases-in-italy-hit-447

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Coronavirus cases in Italy hit 447
Italy has 447 confirmed cases of coronavirus as of Wednesday, according to the Associated Press.
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[27-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/XhW6UwF.png

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[27-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
after the debate yesterday


[27-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
that debate was garbage, hopefully it won't matter anymore after Tuesday if Bernie blows everyone out


[27-Feb-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, the rich audience that paid over $1700 a seat to watch it were booing bernie


[27-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pences-pray-it-plan-combat-indiana-hiv-outbreak-resurfaces-after-trump-taps-vp-lead-1489344

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Mike Pence's 'Pray On It' Plan To Combat Indiana HIV Outbreak Resur...
Vice President Mike Pence's slow response to the 2015 outbreak of HIV in Indiana while he was that state's governor resurfaced after President Donald Trump named him the head of the U.S. Coronavirus task force, a choice Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders called, "Disgusting."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1569760/mike-pence-donald-trump.jpg


[27-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
oh god


[27-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Crow#5457
> After being tapped by President Donald Trump Wednesday to lead the U.S. response to the threat of coronavirus, Vice President Mike Pence's handling of an HIV outbreak while he was governor of Indiana made its way onto social media.
> 
> Pence's slow response to the quick spread of HIV in Scott County, Indiana in 2015 led to the infection of over 200 people. When the idea of a needle exchange to slow the infection rate of the illness was presented to Pence he responded by saying, "I'm going to go home and pray on it."
> 
> Even when Pence signed legislation for a temporary needle exchange program to be set up in the county two months after the HIV outbreak had been detected, he told reporters at a March 2015 news conference, "I will tell you, I do not support needle exchange as antidrug policy, but this is a public health emergency."

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[27-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
mike "pray the gay away" pence


[27-Feb-20 06:12 AM] Honahue#0656
Mike "Like the cock get the Shock" Pence


[27-Feb-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
my favorite is "deus volt"


[27-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/26/megadonor-urges-pelosi-schumer-to-pick-candidate-to-stop-bernie-sanders.html

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Democratic megadonor urges Pelosi and Schumer to pick a candidate i...
Democratic megadonor Bernard Schwartz is calling on Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to rally behind a candidate in order to stop Bernie Sanders.
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[27-Feb-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
billionaire handler orders his neoliberal lackeys to attempt to impede the first popular potential presidential candidate left of center in decades


[27-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
seems like a reasonable response.


[27-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Opponent#3498
I really think that, no matter if Trump stays or leaves, US abandons the pretense of 'popular vote'  entirely. Democrats push the 'let the people who know better decide' narrative, same as what Peterson said but with less lobster porn and more 'we'll save you from Trump, don't worry'


[27-Feb-20 06:57 AM] jlun2#8758
lobster porn?


[27-Feb-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
he's got a bit of lobster fetish going on.


[27-Feb-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
to each his own I suppose.


[27-Feb-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow do you think it'll work


[27-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
it would have a minimal effect this late in the cycle


[27-Feb-20 07:09 AM] jlun2#8758
alright


[27-Feb-20 07:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/96c4add935970f099f81daa6e7500414

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Fight by 2 Republicans for Georgia Senate seat unnerves GOP
MARIETTA, Ga. (AP) — A Republican congressman's decision to challenge freshly appointed Sen. Kelly Loeffler  is pitting two visions of the GOP's future against each other. So far, it's divided...
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[27-Feb-20 07:09 AM] jlun2#8758
> pitting two visions of the GOP's future against each other
wait, there's 2 versions of GOP? is it literally the same thing but  1 has no Trump?


[27-Feb-20 07:10 AM] Opponent#3498
most likely.


[27-Feb-20 07:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the difference between them is that one of them wants to have white suburban mom votes and the other is a hardcore trump loyalist who will go down with the ship to the bitter end


[27-Feb-20 07:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Loeffler, 49, is a wealthy businesswoman and political newcomer who filled a vacant Senate seat in January after being appointed by Georgia’s governor. Top Republicans hope she’ll help the GOP lure back suburban women, a pivotal voting bloc that’s fled the party in dismay over President Donald Trump’s crude behavior and hard-edged policies.
> 
> But among those challenging Loeffler in a Nov. 3 special election is Rep. Doug Collins, a four-term congressman popular with the GOP’s conservative base. Collins, 53, who makes frequent appearances on the right-leaning Fox News Channel, was one of Trump’s fiercest defenders during the impeachment fight as the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, and he’s portraying himself as more conservative and loyal to Trump than Loeffler is.


[27-Feb-20 07:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-indiana-hiv_n_57f53b9be4b002a7312022ef/amp

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Mike Pence's Defining Moment As Governor? Enabling An HIV Outbreak
Here's what to do if you want to create a public health crisis.
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[27-Feb-20 08:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/484836-democrats-cancel-surveillance-vote-over-pushback-to-amendments

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Democrats cancel surveillance vote over pushback to amendments
The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday canceled a planned vote to reauthorize a set of controversial government surveillance programs over concerns that a slew of privacy-focused amendments from Rep.
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[27-Feb-20 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Feb-20 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at56A5eg3vs

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Bush Thinks About New Ways of Harming Our People
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
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[27-Feb-20 10:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
lolz


[27-Feb-20 10:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Bush was really retarded?


[27-Feb-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean considering who you have now, he was okay xD


[27-Feb-20 11:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bush had desynched speech, whatever his lips were saying wasn't on the same point in time as it was in his head


[27-Feb-20 11:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's speech is perfectly in-synch with the nothingness in his head


[27-Feb-20 11:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/26/world/expensive-car-drivers-study-scli-scn-intl/index.html

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If you drive an expensive car you may be a jerk, scientists say
The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.
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[27-Feb-20 11:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> the best predictor of whether a car would stop was its cost, researchers discovered. "Disengagement and a lower ability to interpret thoughts and feelings of others along with feelings of entitlement and narcissism may lead to a lack of empathy for pedestrians" among costly car owners


[27-Feb-20 11:48 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
Why the US doesn't want China to rise up?


[27-Feb-20 12:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump's not worried about coronavirus. But his scientists are. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-not-worried-about-coronavirus-his-scientists-are-n1143911

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Analysis: Trump's not worried about coronavirus. But his scientists...
Analysis: The president is telling Americans there's nothing to worry about, even as federal officials say they're preparing for more cases.
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[27-Feb-20 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's worried about the corona virus, but not for the peoples sake, for the stock market;s stake


[27-Feb-20 12:12 PM] Opponent#3498
NUMBER SMALL LIFE BAD :<


[27-Feb-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants the virus to shut the fuck up and kill people quietly so the stocks can go back to rising and making him look good to investors


[27-Feb-20 12:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Welp killing ppl would solve job and housing market


[27-Feb-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but most of the people it would kill are his supporters


[27-Feb-20 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since the cdc will put out precautions to avoid or treat the virus, and they will avoid those just to spite the cdc because thye mADE trump look bad


[27-Feb-20 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because all of his supporters are preteen boy band worshipers who spite what makes their daddy/ies look bad


[27-Feb-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Feb-20 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
thx i hate it


[27-Feb-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the ultimate pundit candidate!


[27-Feb-20 12:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Why


[27-Feb-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because according to political news, centrists and moderates are a horrifying eldritch monstrosity whose score can only be measured as a single unit


[27-Feb-20 02:09 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
drawing is wrong make bernie a blundering old man then its better


[27-Feb-20 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why don't these pundits who just want people to pander to them just...run themselves?


[27-Feb-20 03:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, the centrist blob


[27-Feb-20 03:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Every TV show political analysis and politics contributor and NYT op-ed writer up at once.


[27-Feb-20 03:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
"This is how I believe we should let old people die of disease. I hope you find it is a good centrist position on healthcare."


[27-Feb-20 03:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now imagine that eighty times over in a debate.


[27-Feb-20 03:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chuck Todd running in 2024 and complaining he isn't considered a front runner after fourth place in Iowa


[27-Feb-20 03:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Brett Stephens having a live meltdown and promising to quit Twitter in a live debate, only for him to never quit. People were calling him an annoying gadfly https://youtu.be/-VM-f6vC2NE

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Chapo Trap House - Bret "Bedbug" Stephens
From episode 346 - Twisted Tales (9/3/19): https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/346-twisted-tales-9319
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[27-Feb-20 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you thought him trying to get a guy fired was bad enough...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Stephens#Controversy

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Bret Louis Stephens (born November 21, 1973) is an American journalist, editor, and columnist. He began working at The New York Times in late April 2017 and as a senior contributor to NBC News in June 2017.Stephens worked for The Wall Street Journal as a foreign-affairs column...
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[27-Feb-20 04:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> In December 2019, Stephens' column "The Secrets of Jewish Genius" in which he contended that Ashkenazi Jews have superior intelligence, led to accusations of eugenics and racism. The column originally said, _"Ashkenazi Jews might have a marginal advantage over their gentile peers when it comes to thinking better. Where their advantage more often lies is in thinking different."_


[27-Feb-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump is War, Pence is Pestilence, McConnell is Famine, Putin is Death

> Together they are the four assholes of the apocalypse


[27-Feb-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/four-federal-lawmakers-vote-against-bill-outlaw-lynching-cite-government-overreach-1489313?amp=1

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Four lawmakers vote against House bill to make lynching a federal h...
"A crime is a crime, and all victims deserve equal justice," GOP Rep. Thomas Massie said. "Adding enhanced penalties for 'hate' tends to endanger other liberties such as freedom of speech."
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[27-Feb-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[27-Feb-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How unsurprising


[27-Feb-20 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
> Four Lawmakers Vote Against House Bill to Make Lynching Federal Hate Crime, Cite 'Government Overreach'


[27-Feb-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://content.markitcdn.com/markets.on.nytimes.com/research/tools/builder/api.asp?sym=%24SP&duration=3&chartstyle=SectionFront&w=395&h=220&display=line&scale=2&topLabel=%20&showChange=0&backgroundColor=FFFFFF&fillColor=ccc&line1Color=000

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[27-Feb-20 04:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Virus news isn't going to get any better, so I expect a lot more numbers going down

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[27-Feb-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
freefall market when


[27-Feb-20 04:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
The question is: where is the bottom, and when will it be hit


[27-Feb-20 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
number small life bad???

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[27-Feb-20 04:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly I'm considering putting my tax refunds into investment, and what I have  in un cashed bonds. Half the hope is that with shit tanking because of the virus more can be bought into and more made during the inevitable post-virus recovery once supply chains reopen.


[27-Feb-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/blatant-violation-of-house-rules-watchdog-questions-how-nunes-is-funding-6-lawsuits-at-once/

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‘Blatant Violation of House Rules’: Watchdog Questions How Nunes Is...
How exactly is Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) paying for his probably doomed-to-fail lawsuits against the anonymous owners of several satirical Twitter accounts that frequently lampoon(ed) him by, for example, posing as a cow with the capacity for human thought, language grammar ...
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[27-Feb-20 04:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
My immediate quality of life concern is that this means either employer of mine decides that with the economy dying and revenues slipping at the end of the quarter I get fired


[27-Feb-20 04:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/484916-federal-appeals-court-rules-tech-platforms-are-free-to-censor-content

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Federal appeals court rules tech platforms can censor content
A federal appeals court on Wednesday ruled that internet giants like Google and Facebook can censor content on their platforms, rebuking arguments from conservatives who claim the tech companies violate users' First Amendment rights&nbsp
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[27-Feb-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
no shit


[27-Feb-20 05:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
le tyranny of private property has arrived.


[27-Feb-20 05:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just as I've said


[27-Feb-20 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminds me of some users that demanded we unban them or they'd sue


[27-Feb-20 05:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course in the abolition of private property like this, we get to beat the same conservatives with shame sticks for our pleasure for being reactionary.


[27-Feb-20 05:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[27-Feb-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
later that day nunes was seen opening a lawsuit for slander against the watchdog who called him out


[27-Feb-20 05:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Turning the sites into public forums would be an awful idea


[27-Feb-20 05:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You wouldn't be able to stop people in bad faith trying to disrupt your site


[27-Feb-20 05:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
The alternative is turning the sites over to the people that keep them working and updating them as a tech co-operative, that way there's a mediating presence to clamp down on bullshit. At which case the imperative of a diverse work-force becomes less a corporate image meme and more a necessity to make sure the moderators themselves don't actually lean to hard into support of something like White Nationalism for instance of militant anti-feminism, like the one dude fired from Google.


[27-Feb-20 05:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>operating derpi by democracy of the users


[27-Feb-20 05:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh god


[27-Feb-20 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since in this case having a diverse field of moderators of different backgrounds would nullify any particular demographic bias and make it a neutral ground.


[27-Feb-20 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
DB as a democracy would turn into a civil war between Communists and Fascists.


[27-Feb-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
> Isn't the invisible hand where you sit on your hand until it goes numb and then masturbate so it's like getting a handjob from the ghost of Ayn Rand?


[27-Feb-20 05:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unrelated

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[27-Feb-20 05:07 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk if too many people think that too stocks wont go as low as ppl buy and drive prices up  :ponythinking:


[27-Feb-20 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, people working in hotels and restaurants and retail are going to get sick


[27-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're going to continue going to work


[27-Feb-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because what else can they do?


[27-Feb-20 05:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 It's a stock investor meme but standard of practice to "buy low, sell high". But the reality in stocks too is they are based on performance that gives them their value since the companies are also obligated to offer share-holder value. So even if a bunch of people buy a shit ton of stocks and jack their value, if Amazon or Apple is unable to deliver on dividends or something then the value of the stock was inflated and investors can get frustrated and sell.


[27-Feb-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/26/we-are-not-stupid-rev-al-sharpton-says-black-voters-wont-be-fooled-red-baiting

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'We Are Not That Stupid': Rev. Al Sharpton Says Black Voters Won't ...
"The civil rights movement always was targeted by those that would use the Red Scare. They accused Dr. King of being a communist. We've been down that road before."
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[27-Feb-20 05:13 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/677346931772751892/unknown.png
still best oc

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[27-Feb-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484896-most-americans-satisfied-with-us-position-in-the-world-gallup

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Most Americans satisfied with US position in the world: Gallup
The percentage of Americans who are satisfied with the United States's position in the world has increased to a level not seen since 2003, a new
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[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It helps that most americans don't know jack about the world


[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
they are deliberately uninformed


[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] jlun2#8758
mexico is in spain right


[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
and propagandized about everything


[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] byte[]#2610
whitewashing the US


[27-Feb-20 05:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
As president I promise to sell America to Iran for a song.


[27-Feb-20 05:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Praise me to the Ayatollah. The hidden Mahdi is in America. I am giving him to Iran. Allahu Ackbar, and praise be to the true Caliph and Imam: Ali.


[27-Feb-20 05:18 PM] jlun2#8758
rip?

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[27-Feb-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
sent the Sanders campaign $50


[27-Feb-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
good luck Bernie


[27-Feb-20 05:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ironically companies like Uber weren't even profitable to begin with but could somehow survive on pure hype. So them being cut down is fun to see.


[27-Feb-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tried-blaming-2020-democrats-stock-market-plunge-underway-coronavirus-2020-2

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Trump blamed 2020 Democrats for the ongoing stock-market plunge — b...
"The financial markets are very upset when they look at the Democratic candidates standing on that stage making fools out of themselves," Trump said.
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[27-Feb-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats caused this virus somehow! I just know it!


[27-Feb-20 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump supporters on my wall are saying the Chinese intentionally released the virus to hurt Trump’s re-election and to stop the protests in HK...

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[27-Feb-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Galaxy brain right here


[27-Feb-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-defends-cuts-cdc-budget-federal-government-hire-doctors-coronavirus-2020-2-1028946602

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Trump defends huge cuts to the CDC’s budget by saying the governmen...
Trump defended his huge CDC budget cuts during a press conference on the federal government's response to the coronavirus. 'I'm a businessperson...
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[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] jlun2#8758
speaking of which, how come anti-vaxxors seems to be completely unaffected by outbreaks


[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] jlun2#8758
do they all live in far off rural areas


[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "I'm a businessperson, I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them," Trump said. "When we need them, we can get them back very quickly."


[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
they aren't


[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
thousands of antivaxer families are murderers by proxy


[27-Feb-20 05:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> When we need them, we can get them back very quickly.
because employees are tissue paper


[27-Feb-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
their child dies of a preventable disease because of their distrust in the medical system


[27-Feb-20 05:32 PM] jlun2#8758
do they just blame god or something if that happens


[27-Feb-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[27-Feb-20 05:33 PM] jlun2#8758
also 
> thousands
how many are there tbh


[27-Feb-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It was just his time, god said so and called him home"


[27-Feb-20 05:33 PM] jlun2#8758
the constant news barrage made it sound like there's millions


[27-Feb-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thousands in the CDC


[27-Feb-20 05:34 PM] jlun2#8758
in fact I legit thought Americans hated vaccines (ie. 300m+)


[27-Feb-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no most americans hate anti vaxxers, but antivaxxers are psychotically vocal


[27-Feb-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Antivaxers in the US measure in the hundreds of thousands at most liberal estimates


[27-Feb-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
There are 300M US citizens


[27-Feb-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's enough to fuck up herd immunity for everyone :pudding:


[27-Feb-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] ty. im really bad at estimating demographic sizes due to vocal minorities


[27-Feb-20 05:42 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Things not looking great here in Brazil either however here at work we did increase exports since China's pretty much frozen lots of clients returned to our manufacturing... So to our business it's balancing out

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[27-Feb-20 05:42 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
It's still kinda scary nonetheless


[27-Feb-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-alex-azar-cost-treatment-a9362226.html

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Trump official refuses to say a coronavirus vaccine would be afford...
Alex Azar also appears to contradict president's contention that deadly virus will disappear once it gets warmer
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[27-Feb-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Giving evidence to Congress on the administration's efforts to contain the deadly virus, Mr Azar said: "We would want to ensure that we work to make it affordable, but we can't control that price, because we need the private sector to invest. Price controls won't get us there."


[27-Feb-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, so if a vaccine is devloped, it will cost $3,000 a dose


[27-Feb-20 06:01 PM] jlun2#8758
Time to infect more people then!  More infections means more public scares which means more demand! ~pharma


[27-Feb-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means we can charge $10,000!


[27-Feb-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610

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[27-Feb-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the lesson here is, leave your ID at home!


[27-Feb-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
later down in the comment thread they talk about people being billed for 911 calls


[27-Feb-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[27-Feb-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck this country so fucking hard :hopeless:


[27-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> "I'm a businessperson, I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them," Trump said. "When we need them, we can get them back very quickly."


[27-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's actually terrible business


[27-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The cost of hiring people is absurd


[27-Feb-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Between the time it takes and the resources to do so


[27-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then there's the onboarding time, where productivity of the new person isn't just low, but also everyone supporting them to get up to speed


[27-Feb-20 06:19 PM] jlun2#8758
> Epilepsy is the **fourth most common** neurological disorder and affects people of all ages. Epilepsy means the same thing as "seizure disorders." ... Epilepsy is a chronic disorder, the hallmark of which is recurrent, unprovoked seizures.
rip then


[27-Feb-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If there's a crisis you needed those people ready yesterday, not starting to write a business case for how many to hire


[27-Feb-20 06:19 PM] jlun2#8758
american doctors be like :glowing_eyes: though


[27-Feb-20 06:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon 
> but also everyone supporting them to get up to speed
"Don't worry, we only hire people with 2-5 years of experience!"


[27-Feb-20 06:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He really is a terrible businessman


[27-Feb-20 06:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Great conman, though


[27-Feb-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's like the spam mails with intentional typos; "everyone" knows they're a scam, yet loads of people bite because they want to believe in them so badly


[27-Feb-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/KCLyBSo.jpg

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OH NO NOT THE POOR BILLIONAIRES!
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[27-Feb-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god! Not hundreds! anything but hundreds!


[27-Feb-20 06:32 PM] jlun2#8758
what do rich people even do with billions of dollars


[27-Feb-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
How will you ever afford a yacht,truck,yacht now!


[27-Feb-20 06:32 PM] jlun2#8758
look at it in their stock page?


[27-Feb-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
orgies


[27-Feb-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
child sex parties

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[27-Feb-20 06:33 PM] jlun2#8758
what kind of sex party cost billions ?


[27-Feb-20 06:33 PM] jlun2#8758
is it some sex Olympics ?


[27-Feb-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
private island epstein parties


[27-Feb-20 06:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Pay the child, pay off relatives, pay off investigators


[27-Feb-20 06:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
💸


[27-Feb-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just keep them in a dungeon on an island in international waters


[27-Feb-20 06:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Offshore ~~tax~~ ~~child~~ foal havens


[27-Feb-20 06:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru dont forget to publicly denounce it as evil

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[27-Feb-20 06:37 PM] jlun2#8758
hypocrisy is mandatory


[27-Feb-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/484939-navy-head-cutting-shipbuilding-for-nukes-border-wall-not-helpful

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[27-Feb-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/484854-trump-administration-resuming-coal-leasing-on-public-lands

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Trump administration resuming coal leasing on public lands
The Trump administration announced on Wednesday that it will be resuming coal leasing on public lands, angering conservationists.
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[27-Feb-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/h6mR_bplYjc

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Our Wyoming Life
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Bloomberg - You Don't Have a Clue
Presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg has publicly stated “I could teach anybody, even people in this room, no offense intended, to be a farmer.”

Michael Bloomberg, you have no clue what it takes to be a farmer in this great country!

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[27-Feb-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
538 shows Sanders's odds have dropped massively


[27-Feb-20 07:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

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Did Trump Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?
As a new coronavirus spread in 2020, so did concerns about the United States' preparedness for a potential pandemic.
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[27-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
> True


[27-Feb-20 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/bender-were-boned-were-fucked-up-gif-16162520

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[27-Feb-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> 538 shows Sanders's odds have dropped massively
nooo


[27-Feb-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] any causes?


[27-Feb-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
biden surge


[27-Feb-20 07:32 PM] jlun2#8758
biden is a zombie


[27-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
biden surge from what tho


[27-Feb-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
he's still as out of it as usual


[27-Feb-20 07:39 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[27-Feb-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden being seen as likely to win SC


[27-Feb-20 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
is that going to be bad


[27-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[27-Feb-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just people desperately clinging to "see? SEE? HE CAN ACTUALLY WIN!"


[27-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] Ghost Ayn Rand would use your hand to commit afterlife tax fraud.


[27-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then Republicans would pressure Satan to declare this legal.


[27-Feb-20 07:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess the navy head is going to find himself reassigned to some other position soon


[27-Feb-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the self insert fanfic of a PTSD addled bourgeoisie emigre being the cornerstone of your movement


[27-Feb-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, this is exactly how I expected the Wall to be funded, way back in 2016 :D


[27-Feb-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon yeah


[27-Feb-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9m3v3wzkbhj41.png

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[27-Feb-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind btw this Biden rise is only to NH levels.


[27-Feb-20 08:11 PM] ononim#8141

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[27-Feb-20 08:11 PM] ononim#8141
:bigbrain:


[27-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
that's... actually true


[27-Feb-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
but also entirely not the point.


[27-Feb-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Surely, healthcare isn't a needed good, guys.


[27-Feb-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why do we need to make peasants healthy? They are nothing more than ways to turn land into profit!


[27-Feb-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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[27-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
I'm only seeing a slight uptick in biden's popularity here


[27-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that he's expected to win SC pretty big.


[27-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Despite Bernie doing well overall.


[27-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'll make people less certain on Super Tuesday.


[27-Feb-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Bernie won't win as big on it.


[27-Feb-20 08:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1233111177632370691
https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/1233109752344956930
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1233111661151760387

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https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1233111177632370691
There's a rumour going around here that a pro-Asad coalition airstrike has killed ~50 Turkish soldiers in #Idlib. 

This comes as the deadline Erdogan set on 5 February for the regime coaliton to cede its advances elapses in about 30 hours.
Twitter

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https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/1233109752344956930
-significant-

Unconfirmed reports that dozens upon dozens of Turkish soldiers have just been killed in a massive Russian air strike on the Syria-Turkey border about an hour ago.
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An emergency security meeting is underway at the Turkish Presidency on Idlib. 

Erdogan chairs the meeting.
Twitter


[27-Feb-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
oh boy...


[27-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Syria, round 3


[27-Feb-20 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, I'm just worried it's us and our sea that's physically between Turkey and Russia, is all.


[27-Feb-20 08:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

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A Guide: How To Prepare Your Home For Coronavirus
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week urged the American public "to prepare in the expectation that this could be bad." Here are some of the steps you might consider.
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[27-Feb-20 08:55 PM] ononim#8141
Turkey is too cucked rn with too shit economy to actually answer properly i feel


[27-Feb-20 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
Plus I am pretty sure Russian Military already has... "assets" it needs if Erdogan decide to do a gamer moment and escalate


[27-Feb-20 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's true. Nationalistic zeal can only get you so far when your funds have run out already.


[27-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/lgbt-anti-lynching-bill-evangelical-liberty-counsel-mat-staver-gay-rights-1286188

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Evangelical "hate group" lobbies to remove LGBT protections from an...
"The old saying is, once that camel gets the nose in the tent, you can't stop them from coming the rest of the way in," the chairman of the Liberty Counsel said.
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[27-Feb-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ himself wouldn't defend these assholes


[27-Feb-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
"Liberty Counsel"


[27-Feb-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
a fittingly ironic name


[27-Feb-20 09:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/26/red-alert-anti-muslim-violence-india-reaching-critical-levels-homes-and-businesses

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'Red Alert': Anti-Muslim Violence in India Reaching Critical Levels...
"Who will help the Muslims of India?"
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[27-Feb-20 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
oh boy, India doing pogroms, and coronavirus probably gonna git it soon


[27-Feb-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/27/youll-see-rebellion-sanders-supporters-denounce-open-threats-superdelegates-steal

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'You'll See Rebellion': Sanders Supporters Denounce Open Threats by...
"The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects."
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[27-Feb-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie and here it is


[27-Feb-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
the riggers are saying the quiet part loud


[27-Feb-20 09:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-how-germany-is-preparing-for-a-possible-pandemic/a-52557646

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Coronavirus: How Germany is preparing for a possible pandemic | DW ...
The government has announced a new crisis team to handle its response to the spread of the disease after new cases cropped up in different parts of Germany. Scientists said the situtation is still under control.
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[27-Feb-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow is that a significant group? never heard of them until now


[27-Feb-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Feb-20 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wall with Canada soon


[27-Feb-20 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/x9clfjjiwgj41.jpg

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[27-Feb-20 09:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pro virus. It mainly kills older people and kids 
Anti virus. I will eventually be old


[27-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] God if they try to rig it so Pelosi gets it wow


[27-Feb-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like at least try to get Michelle Obama?


[27-Feb-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/0sbik9ac3hj41.jpg

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[27-Feb-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
>  "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
so basically they will do it 100%


[27-Feb-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Maybe


[27-Feb-20 10:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/hong-kong-airlines-hotels-coronavirus

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Hong Kong airlines, hotels devastated by coronavirus
Here is how the coronavirus is impacting Hong Kong airlines and the hospitality industry.
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[27-Feb-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nvm


[27-Feb-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/484933-warren-introduces-bill-to-redirect-wall-money-to-coronavirus

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Warren introduces bill to redirect wall money to coronavirus
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) introduced legislation on Thursday to redirect border wall funding to combating the coronavirus.
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[27-Feb-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Feb-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1233110606779232262

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WSJ scoop: Bloomberg’s campaign has made overtures to Andrew Yang, courting his endorsement and floating the possibility of Yang becoming his running mate. @lizrhoffman @elizacollins1 @tparti https://t.co/fP0BQbhRAC
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[28-Feb-20 12:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISJ2r_DO08I

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[28-Feb-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
The actual tweet https://twitter.com/thefarmerjones/status/1232413802349637632

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This is a hell of a paragraph.
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[28-Feb-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh cool


[28-Feb-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investing/dow-stock-market-selloff/index.html

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Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history
US stocks again sold off sharply on Thursday as worries about coronavirus mounted. The S&P 500 posted its worst day since August 18, 2011, and the three main indexes fell into correction territory. Stocks are on track for their worst week since the financial crisis.
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[28-Feb-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Insert Tom Petty lyrics here


[28-Feb-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/27/business/goldman-sachs-trump-election-coronavirus/index.html

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Coronavirus could cost Trump the election, Goldman Sachs warns
A market meltdown. Surging recession fears. And a sudden spotlight on America's health care system. Goldman Sachs is warning Wall Street that the coronavirus could cost President Donald Trump the election.
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[28-Feb-20 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
turns out...we actually did need a plague?


[28-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[28-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will lose regardless, coronavirus just means that the damage he's done to China on trade will come bakk to hit us harder.


[28-Feb-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He essentially made it possible we'd enter a severe recession.


[28-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.is/Egjjg

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[28-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/u-s-could-see-some-empty-shelves-mid-april-if-n1144351

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U.S. could see some empty shelves by mid-April if coronavirus epide...
Production bottlenecks could cause some bare shelves at brick-and-mortar retailers within 60 to 90 days, retail analysts warn.
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[28-Feb-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now that'd be a picture


[28-Feb-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
>Goldman Sachs _warns_


[28-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things not going so great for Iran
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/coronavirus-iran-vice-president-masoumeh-ebtekar-test-positive-outbreak-latest-a9363181.html

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Iran's vice-president diagnosed with coronavirus
Masoumeh Ebtekar among 254 confirmed cases in the country, where 26 people have been killed by the virus
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/02/27/14/Masoumeh-Ebtekar.jpg


[28-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> U.S. workers without protective gear assisted coronavirus evacuees


[28-Feb-20 02:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[28-Feb-20 02:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...and the whistleblower got re-assigned after basically asking "what the fuck are you doing"


[28-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
so do we blame capitalism for empty shelves if that comes to pass?


[28-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
or is it still somehow socialism?


[28-Feb-20 02:48 AM] Ramenoodles#4640
Just a flu bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTysV3EfSyM

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"Just a flu bro"
Im getting really tired of the people understimating this tragedy. 

"Its just a flu bro"       "only 1000 dead? Nothing is happening"

Hundreds of people have died and thousands are sick. 

Hope to wake up some of you that will watch this video.

The music used is the one tha...
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[28-Feb-20 02:49 AM] Ramenoodles#4640
Eat the bat soup, bigot!


[28-Feb-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/485045-trump-upends-controversial-surveillance-fight

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Trump upends controversial surveillance fight
President Trump is threatening to blow up an extension of expiring intelligence programs as he backchannels with a cadre of top allies who want to use the bill to reform a shadowy surveillance court.
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[28-Feb-20 03:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> Officials at the Department of Health and Human Services sent more than a dozen workers to receive the first Americans evacuated from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, **without proper training **for infection control or appropriate protective gear, according to a whistleblower complaint.
"Why would we need to train them? They already have 2-5 years of experience according to their resume."


[28-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) this is actually really good news.


[28-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically what's going on is


[28-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals: This is against the 4th amendment, destroy it.
Trump: MY FOURTH AMENDMENT GOT VIOLATED. IN THE NO NO ZONE. BAD.
Republicans: Um...what he said?
Democrats: Oh uh...yeah that. Maybe we could work in reforms tho if we also keep around some of the tools to violate the 4th amendment.


[28-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump sacked the CDC staff dedicated to this sort of shit 2 years ago


[28-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble with these programs is they make them "temporary" to secure things that are blatantly not okay


[28-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they keep reauthorizing them over and over again


[28-Feb-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But here, there's so much chaos with it because Trump was vaguely involved that it's unlikely anything will get reauthorized


[28-Feb-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything does get reauthorized, it will only be with major, major concessions to liberals.


[28-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, one thing I HATE about capitalists


[28-Feb-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"stocks are in correction"


[28-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What this implies is that any downward motion is just fixing a mistaken rise.


[28-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The implication of that is that there are real rises and mistaken rises, but only the mistakes fall.


[28-Feb-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You never hear "the stocks are going below what they should be at", just "they're in correction"


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all premised on the assertion that the market is truly, truly correct, and that any problems it has are just it fixing itself.


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no bad times, only "corrections".


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] jlun2#8758
Markets are the new gods.


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it's like with religion


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Oh, yeah God still cares, this flood was just him fixing things"


[28-Feb-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all premised on the idea anything bad has a purpose.


[28-Feb-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should not be treating our fukking virtual trading numbers like infallible gods.


[28-Feb-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Feb-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1233190668908072967

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Hillary Clinton is starting a podcast

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[28-Feb-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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The Bloomberg campaign office in Salt Lake City was vandalized overnight. It is confirmed that roughly 50 rocks were thrown through the window.
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[28-Feb-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so bloomberg offices arenow doing false flag victim carding


[28-Feb-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the "vandalized" windows were broken formt he innside, the rocks are piled too neatly and nothing inside the office is damaegedfrom rock impact


[28-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
BUT THOSE BERNIE BROS MAN


[28-Feb-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
THINK OF THE CHILDREN /o\


[28-Feb-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Feb-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Drace_Nines/status/1232307153773498368

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https://twitter.com/Drace_Nines/status/1232307153773498368
@kslnewsradio really kind of the Bernie Bros to liquefy like the T-1000, fit through the tiny holes in the glass, resume human form, arrange the rocks in a convenient, easy to clean up pile, then liquefy again to leave the building
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[28-Feb-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
the boomers are morons who just look at the headline and think Bernie is the devil temping to the poor, misguided teens to doing this.


[28-Feb-20 04:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
have they determined yet if the ballistics indicate the rocks came from inside? it's possible they piled up the rocks during the cleanup.


[28-Feb-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if you've ever tried to clean up broken glass out of a carpet


[28-Feb-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it's very difficult


[28-Feb-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially when all the broken glass fell on the outside


[28-Feb-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, there is *zero* damage visible inside


[28-Feb-20 04:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
fair point. but i was asking about the rock pile


[28-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
from the pictures it looks that way


[28-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
but was curious on what the findings say


[28-Feb-20 04:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if they have said yet


[28-Feb-20 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
point I'm making is, there's no way they'd have been able to vacuum sparkly bits of glass out of the carpet and bother to pick through all the rocks, leaving them neatly piled on said carpet


[28-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
unless it was to count the rocks?


[28-Feb-20 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
the findings will say 'the evidence is inconclusive'.


[28-Feb-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
it could, after all, be the aliens. You never know with these pesky gits. Can't rule out any possibility.


[28-Feb-20 04:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
beware the rock chucking aliens. they hate all windows for some reason


[28-Feb-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. The window (the close-up with the rocks provides a decent picture) is very thin. And there's an inordinate volume of broken glass on the outside of it. If it was big and heavy, parts could have collapsed down, but here the rocks would simply take chunks with them. Which they kind of did, if you assume the rocks coming from the inside.


[28-Feb-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
the smart thing to do now would be to follow up with 'deciding not to press charges against those misguided kids', limiting the hands needing grease and legal footprint in general, circulate the better photos (I wouldn't use the one with the rocks, but the first one looked okayish), and passively generate anti-Bernie hype in social media.


[28-Feb-20 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
would help to make public proclamations about 'the kids' specifically, to imply the perps have already been found. Give it a couple days.


[28-Feb-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
did that even work for anti trump hype


[28-Feb-20 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump crowd revels in being dirty, they'd rally behind this and say 'yeah we did, whatchu gonna do about it?'


[28-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you mess up this badly at a false flag?


[28-Feb-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just WALK OUTSIDE AND THROW THE ROKKS


[28-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But people might see you and call the cops!


[28-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody thought rokks flying out of windows was suspicious?


[28-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They probably used a broomstick


[28-Feb-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, of course, easier to amass the rokks that way.


[28-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just poke holes, pile up rokks neatly, claim vandalism.


[28-Feb-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess these people couldn't bother to spend more than 10 minutes on their self vandalism.


[28-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly it doesn't work because I've seen people applaud even real vandalism against Bloomberg


[28-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it's fucking Bloomberg


[28-Feb-20 05:31 AM] Honahue#0656

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[28-Feb-20 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A name associated with wall street and shitty NYC policies


[28-Feb-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie playing 4D chess, Bloomberg losing at 52 pikk up.


[28-Feb-20 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet he's still polling better than klob


[28-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar and Pete are in a high stakes battle of Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots over who gets to lose to Bernie.


[28-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh Klob suffers from a terrible accent


[28-Feb-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
She also never establishes why anyone should ever vote for her.


[28-Feb-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like she'll go into a debate and spend 2 minutes explaining that she can't be expected to know everything.


[28-Feb-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
She makes vague promises she'll help minorities, but doesn't hav really anything in terms of policy.


[28-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I passed bills" is good, but it's not enuff.


[28-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you're not the only successful Senator on stage.


[28-Feb-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be a very good angle to push that you're the *most* successful after you lay out a policy plan people love.


[28-Feb-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
To most people, Klobuchar just looks like Warren but less willing to do any fighting for anything.


[28-Feb-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete has the same problem. He has a healthcare plan, which is something, but he doesn't really make a case that its half-measures are better than what Bernie's selling, and everything else he does is just argue without actually taking any popular stances.


[28-Feb-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like okay, you don't think Klobuchar is good, you think you're good at reaching out to minorities, and you think your healthcare plan will be less destructive...now support any of these things.


[28-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can giv the crowd a promise they want, you can provide evidence you'll make things better via history and common sense, or you can exude passion and confidence.


[28-Feb-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete exedus confidence and makes baseless claims that aren't anything to do with what the crowd cares about.


[28-Feb-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like he thinks running for president is a dayjob.


[28-Feb-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Oh yeah yeah boss, it'll be there in the morning, and we'll make tons of money, I just know it." - Pete, not realizing he's talking to an incensed minority community and not David the regional manager.


[28-Feb-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another way to sum it up is something from a tweet: "I forget Pete's at this debate, even while he's talking."


[28-Feb-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I just mentally tune him out whenever he has the floor


[28-Feb-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has no passion when he speaks.


[28-Feb-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like your neighbor talking about how he's gonna fix his roof.


[28-Feb-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He sounds really sure of himself and there's nothing you can do to help.


[28-Feb-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's already found a solution and next morning, that gutter will be cleared.


[28-Feb-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's like that random bukk-tooth pony that shows up in Sweet and Elite, but looking much better.


[28-Feb-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
it sounds like he's constantly reading off a teleprompter


[28-Feb-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he just rehearses what to say a ton.


[28-Feb-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I come up with more impassioned speech lines in my sleep


[28-Feb-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
things I can shout until red in the face


[28-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I bet he pays an intern to write the stuff.


[28-Feb-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders has been shouting those lines for decades


[28-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
One he's had since he was mayor, possibly.


[28-Feb-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who would write stuff for the teleprompter so he wouldn't look like an idiot when telling South Bend's people what he's doing.


[28-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep them uninterested and happy thinking he's competent.


[28-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that always worked, so why change it now?


[28-Feb-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the rise of trump has made two things clear: political loyalism is important, and being perceived as not genuine is fatal to your campaign


[28-Feb-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BrynnTannehill/status/1232666667689402368
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First, people in the US tend to avoid seeking medical care due to the cost. So, a lot of people who get sick won't get tested because they can't afford a $1,400 medical bill for getting tested and seeking treatment. 2/n https://t.co/TNsaEYksCp
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Next, people in the US aren't guaranteed sick leave or days off. Employers routinely tell people "come in, or you're fired." Particularly in low wage jobs where people handle food...So they'll come in sick and...boom. 3/n
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[28-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason for that last one is pretty simple.


[28-Feb-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the past, being non-genuine was a way to publicly say you were okay with civil rights, but actually do everything to stop it.


[28-Feb-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
People trusted the gov't a lot anyways, so they wouldn't take major issue with someone conforming to it while the status quo was kept in place.


[28-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But nowadays, candidates are both much less racist, but still mostly racist.


[28-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So for conservatives, a non-genuine guy might giv the usual signals he'll destroy minority rights, but once in office...not follow thru.


[28-Feb-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for liberals, a non-genuine guy talks big about equal rights, then does nothing for them.


[28-Feb-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either way, racists or not, the suspicion is that a lying candidate will turn around and just do the slow march of progress instead of reverse it (conservative) or advance it (liberal).


[28-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Klobuchar and Warren need to be in the Senate for an inevitable Democratic majority soon


[28-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's where they are valuable


[28-Feb-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And nobody trusts gov't anymore because it's a mess of partisan warring.


[28-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Massachusetts is pretty reliably blue isn't it


[28-Feb-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
even if she served her replacement would be (D) as well


[28-Feb-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] 'Hospital officials at Jackson Memorial Hospital, where Azcue was seen, told the Miami Herald that in addition to the bill, he would also have to provide three years of medical records to prove the flu he got didn't relate to a preexisting condition.'


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the guy recently switched health plans to one that isn't ACA compliant


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
to save money


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
now they're asking him to PROVE that the FLU isn't involved in a pre-existing condition that would cancel his healthcare


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the flu


[28-Feb-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
a virus people get seasonally


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
that has nothing to do with pre-existing conditions.


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
prey on ignorance?


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
or are the insurers dumb


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that people in the insurance industry should be the absolute last people given any consideration for their lives.


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The insurers aren't dumb.


[28-Feb-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to trap him.


[28-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they can stop paying any of the bill for care.


[28-Feb-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The insurers (and hospital) are malicious.


[28-Feb-20 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
im just waiting for ai to take their jobs


[28-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 coronavirus disproportionately affects people 50+


[28-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the CDC estimates 70% of the US could get sick


[28-Feb-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
boomer plague


[28-Feb-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus: OK BOOMER :glowing_eyes:


[28-Feb-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
we could witness a mass die-off of Trump's base


[28-Feb-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
in the next year or so


[28-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, if it were to hit before November...


[28-Feb-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 specifically, https://twitter.com/BrynnTannehill/status/1232883215800598530

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Also, data is emerging showing 94% of coronavirus deaths occur in people over 50. A pandemic would disproportionately affect Trump's base. CDC saying 40-70% of US could become infected. Inside the WH, I suspect there's a sense of urgency. 12/n
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[28-Feb-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conspiracy theories would be insane.


[28-Feb-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
to be clear: the correlation is not "if you are over 50, you are 94% likely to die of covid-19 if you get it"


[28-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
it's "if you die of covid-19, it's 94% likely you were over 50"


[28-Feb-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
the disease is not overly fatal


[28-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It must be its rather novel combinations pose challenges for an aged immune system.


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] jlun2#8758
> we could witness a mass die-off of Trump's base
isnt the rate like 2% tho


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
that would be enough to swing it seriously in favor of democrats


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike the normal flu, which tends to kill only the *very* old or young.


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
2% of what?


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
People over 50?


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] jlun2#8758
death rate sorry


[28-Feb-20 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
2% of people who get it die


[28-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's overall death rate, not over 50 death rate.


[28-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under 50...1%


[28-Feb-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be a lot of dead grandpas.


[28-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something else noted in those tweets is that sikk kids often get left with grandparents.


[28-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children could become carriers.


[28-Feb-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Entire preschool gets it, then all their grandparents get severely ill.


[28-Feb-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/bernie-sanders.html neoliberal hack exposes himself

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Opinion | No, Not Sanders, Not Ever
He is not a liberal, he’s the end of liberalism.
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[28-Feb-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
> Populists like Sanders speak as if the whole system is irredeemably corrupt. Sanders was a useless House member and has been a marginal senator because he doesn’t operate within this system or believe in this theory of change.


[28-Feb-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] his previous article https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/mike-bloomberg-2020.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/mike-bloomberg-2020.html
Opinion | The Case for Mike Bloomberg
He’s a practical manager who can get things done.
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[28-Feb-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
oof


[28-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look at his article history lol


[28-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
he says Biden is strong


[28-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
he says Dems are giving it to Trump


[28-Feb-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
He then says Bernie is doing well because he's "crafted a myth that Dems use"


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] jlun2#8758
oh's david brooks


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
the system _is_ irredeemably corrupt


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He then goes on about how Bernie's myth is CLEARLY WRONG


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
he doesn't get it


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] jlun2#8758
outside the fact he's probably a rich white male


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes Trump and Bernie's myths are of the other side being evil


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that the "true" myth is "gathering"


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, centrism.


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
he's been insulated his entire life and has never been relentlessly exploited by a corporation


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
something any middle class person can tell you happens all the time


[28-Feb-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he thinks the ideal leader is Twilight Sparkle


[28-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Starlight Glimmer can't get anything done.


[28-Feb-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
one of my friends from last year who tried to kill herself got hit with a completely unaffordable $20000 bill from the hospital


[28-Feb-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
why  _wouldn't_ you want to kill yourself after that?


[28-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks the only value of leadership is like


[28-Feb-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
making friends


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That you get things done because you hav more people.


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not any real cause


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
or vision


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
or morals


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
just hugs and kisses and friendship


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan


[28-Feb-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
reagan: hugs and kisses and friendship and ~~incarcerating black people~~ making society great again


[28-Feb-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget neoliberal, I think this guy's ideology is literally "challenging things is wrong"


[28-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants to sing kumbayah next to a dead blakk guy hanging from a tree and talk about how this small setbakk won't stop the community from coming together.


[28-Feb-20 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
> "challenging things is wrong"
isnt that what parents force down their kids throat, or just me


[28-Feb-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is, yes.


[28-Feb-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it's what south park teaches genx


[28-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer and Gen X mentality.


[28-Feb-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
and to some extent millenials


[28-Feb-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He probably hates Warren because she said Bloomberg said bad things.


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he doesn't care if Bloomberg said them or how bad they are


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
this man is truly galaxy brain


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
he just hates that someone is airing dirty laundry.


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's what centrists really are.


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure that's how I kept getting victim blamed at school


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who see fascists vs. anti-fascists and go


[28-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"guys we can just gas the jews and agree to disagree"

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[28-Feb-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"This guy over here has more money anyways, and he can smile and be happy. Let's put him in charge of it."


[28-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I missed this <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/25/behind-our-sluggish-response-coronavirus-an-unnecessary-battle-over-funding/>


[28-Feb-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> The White House appears to have informed Democrats that they want to fund the emergency response in part by taking money from a program that funds low-income home heating assistance.


[28-Feb-20 06:53 AM] jlun2#8758
THINK OF THE RICH


[28-Feb-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
our government is run by comic book villains


[28-Feb-20 06:53 AM] jlun2#8758
and probably "you said there's global warming right? they'll be fine"


[28-Feb-20 06:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers tend to have a hard time understanding that dirty laundry should be aired, but Gen X is slightly worse I've found


[28-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers at least _tried_ to have social movements


[28-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note: comic book _villains_, not just comic book antagonists.


[28-Feb-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The antagonist from Watchmen? He's too liberal to be allowed in Congress.


[28-Feb-20 06:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking "I upvoted and shared a video talking about inequality yet nothing changes. Clearly doing anything is pointless."


[28-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, he thought murdering millions of people was a grim necessity that should be done to prevent nuclear war.


[28-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And was completely pacifistic otherwise.


[28-Feb-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You put him on the House floor and Republicans would say he's a weak shit who could never make America great.


[28-Feb-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
> And now, according to The Times, government scientists will need to get Pence’s approval before making public statements about the coronavirus.


[28-Feb-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
it will leak to the press


[28-Feb-20 06:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man the response to the 1619 Project. If you think people need to get over slavery and move on why be so defensive about 1776


[28-Feb-20 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every single founder and president up until maybe FDR would be aghast at the current state of racial equality, why should that stop us?


[28-Feb-20 06:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Note that after FDR some still would be and are


[28-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I actually think some of them would understand it, at least after a moment of shokk.


[28-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Star Trek TOS approach, btw.


[28-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Understand it sure


[28-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But only ones like, 1880 or so on


[28-Feb-20 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hate it still


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, aliens recreate Abraham Lincoln, and he calls Uhura a slur, but then apologizes, realizing he's probably screwing up with new social norms.


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
SOME of the founders would understand it too.


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
if we were teleported into the distant future where things were far more equal wouldn't we face some similar shock


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just not like, many of the ones that became president later.


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jefferson maybe


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize is there WERE things going on for equality movements at the time.


[28-Feb-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti.


[28-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder how he would react to people knowing he raped his slaves


[28-Feb-20 07:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] "Why are you so discriminate against the dolphin people?"


[28-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, French Revolution talked big, real big, about equality


[28-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
it took the founders' ideals and made them sacrosanct...then regularly waffled on enforcing them.


[28-Feb-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This didn't mean much in France, which was all white


[28-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
(ignoring the whole overthrowing the ruling class thing)


[28-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It meant a hell of a lot in Haiti.


[28-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti was mostly slaves.


[28-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
With some free blakks with lesser rights than whites.


[28-Feb-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overnight, they were more than once given full equal *de jure* rights.


[28-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they had the numbers to make those rights *de facto* at times too.


[28-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason that most of the people in the 19th century in America would be aghast at equality is quite possibly Haiti, actually.


[28-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of bad shit went down there.


[28-Feb-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Napoleon tried to reconquer the area with explicitly racist goals and he failed.


[28-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result was a mass slaughter of the remaining whites to prevent any further incursions.


[28-Feb-20 07:04 AM] jlun2#8758
so...how is Haiti now?


[28-Feb-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
A wrekk.


[28-Feb-20 07:05 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[28-Feb-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cut ties with the country that colonized it hard.


[28-Feb-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its main ally in Amercia abandoned it.


[28-Feb-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In more modern times, the US tries to force libertarian ideology on it, tying such to aid.


[28-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is, well, exactly what libertarians think should happen.


[28-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MASS DEATHS


[28-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
CULL THE WEAK


[28-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute poverty, no support for saving the environment etc.


[28-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cross the border to the east and suddenly there's actually nature.


[28-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti is essentially the great conservative success story in dealing with slaves who manage to rebel.


[28-Feb-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You make their country an utter shithole by forcing your bad economic policies on them.


[28-Feb-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
libertarians are unstoppable


[28-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Feb-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
somehow ppl keep joining them


[28-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Jefferson would just be like "you mean you prevented the negros from slaughtering you all?"


[28-Feb-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be aghast that we invite such "traitors" into our homes, @Itsthinking


[28-Feb-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd also absolutely hate that nowadays we put like, Robespierre above Napoleon.


[28-Feb-20 07:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Now I wished they explore this in MLP with the 3 tribes given it has time travel. Probably would get waterdown massively, or super controversal though


[28-Feb-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[28-Feb-20 07:14 AM] jlun2#8758
The concept of a past important figure is taken to modern Equestria, and is surprised by the relative equality @Nebbie


[28-Feb-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them would just be annoyed at not wanting conquest.


[28-Feb-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas Jefferson in particular would insist that like, it's not sufficiently meritocratic.


[28-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd like Queen Twilight and such, but not that ponies tend to stop types like Flim and Flam.


[28-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that they respect Buffalo lands.


[28-Feb-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd probably insist that Queen Twi go around subjugating various nations.


[28-Feb-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental hypocrisy in enlightenment-thinking rulers is that they go on and on about how they think that you shouldn't get the world given to you by birthright, but by being the best person, but in practice, people are the best because they were given advantages others weren't by the circumstances of their birth.


[28-Feb-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they don't often really care about those that are "lesser" being hurt.


[28-Feb-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's like, okay, you're a smart rich white guy who has advanced science. Good, now go kill all these useless brown people who are living in mud huts, because all they can do is liv in mud huts. Oh, you educated one of their children to become as good as us? GOOD! Now kill his parents.


[28-Feb-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a way to justify genocide, be it with weapons or boarding schools, making rational thought a slave of imperialism etc.


[28-Feb-20 07:27 AM] jlun2#8758
Sometimes I'm surprised humans even managed to not kill off each other like that.


[28-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thinking humanity can ever really exterminate itself without extremely large untargeted environmental weaponry is massively foolish.


[28-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We may be altricial, but we are generally good at spreading ourselves.


[28-Feb-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we are ridiculous at survival.


[28-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way a human group really dies is if another one takes its place entirely.


[28-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So sure, one group wipes the other out, but then it survives and thrives.


[28-Feb-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no state where two groups just kill each other and die.


[28-Feb-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they tried, there'd randomly be 2 people away at the time who return and repopulate.


[28-Feb-20 07:30 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[28-Feb-20 07:31 AM] jlun2#8758
Thanks.


[28-Feb-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, to kill humanity, you'd need to destroy over 90% of the self-sustainable living area on the planet for humans.


[28-Feb-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Such area extends onto sea ice.


[28-Feb-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could completely destroy all land below the arctic circle, and 100 years later, the Inuit would still be around doing okay.


[28-Feb-20 07:33 AM] byte[]#2610
> 
> Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.


[28-Feb-20 07:36 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was just other mammals often can't move to other areas (wrong environment, no tools, no farming) and humans are those weirdos who decided that we should start wearing animal skins, sail, and farm.


[28-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but the thing to realize is that any one of those things is game-changing.


[28-Feb-20 07:37 AM] jlun2#8758
I kinda forgot about Matrix, so thanks for that btw.


[28-Feb-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav all of them.


[28-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we are resourceful enuff that we can do it in a very small area.


[28-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means hiding, which means that whenever a human group is hit by something, there are survivors.


[28-Feb-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extreme mobility + easier access to local resources + advanced warning.


[28-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of "completely wiping out" a group of humans is extreme.


[28-Feb-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that group is over a few thousand in size, it's like saying you'll level a mountain.


[28-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note this is part of why human conflict is so intense.


[28-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Village gets massacred, but 3 people survive to tell neighboring villages.


[28-Feb-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, there's a counterattakk.


[28-Feb-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyways, most of history is like a constant state of war


[28-Feb-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of actual relative peace in the world like we hav today would be foreign to most rulers from most time periods.


[28-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The further idea that we should strive to not conquer each other, abandon brutal survival of the fittest mentalities in favor of actual cooperation, would be seen as horrible to them.


[28-Feb-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd be thinking that we're all weak nothings that can't possibly be good for the species in the long-term.


[28-Feb-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with Equestria's actual world peace, well, most rulers would say ponies are a reason that enlightenment ideals should actually be *shunned*.


[28-Feb-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, @jlun2, nothing would be learned, you'd just hav Napoleon et al. going "well then, the enlightenment was WRONG!"


[28-Feb-20 07:50 AM] jlun2#8758
:depressed:


[28-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, the last 100 years hav seen the west change massively in ideals.


[28-Feb-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Events like the American Revolution put in place new ideas completely at odds with the status quo, and at the time the full implications of them were suppressed.


[28-Feb-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things vary wildly from leader to leader on how much of those ideals they possesed.


[28-Feb-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But most of them would be simply mad that we're giving away all our technology without making the brown people act just like us.


[28-Feb-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many would be mad that the strongest aren't taking resources.


[28-Feb-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And virtually all of them would just want to be in power so they can go stomping around with it.


[28-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/682833960644247578/image0.jpg

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[28-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the top map was a map that was declared anticompetitive in 1912


[28-Feb-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
the bottom map is a modern railroad system


[28-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hard to establish much just by coverage alone. The problem with competition is always a matter of relative scale and reach.


[28-Feb-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I imagine there really is next to no competition at all here, you can't just start up a railroad company.


[28-Feb-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even in a single city, you'd be stomped.


[28-Feb-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
US law got absolutely bought on transportation.


[28-Feb-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, one of the important things to note is the Dakotas


[28-Feb-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're completely left off the map


[28-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is one of the consequences of neoliberalism and big monopolies.


[28-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Certain areas where there's less money to be made just get utterly shafted from having these services.


[28-Feb-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The services' existence also shapes where people liv, and thus how much money can be made.


[28-Feb-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with greater and greater disparities.


[28-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think it's the entire system, it's just a single company's system


[28-Feb-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
I changed the wording


[28-Feb-20 09:30 AM] ononim#8141
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-syria-security-turkey-migrants/turkey-will-no-longer-stop-syrian-migrant-flow-to-europe-turkish-official-idUKKCN20L347?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com

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Turkey has decided to no longer stop Syrian refugees from reaching Europe by lan...
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[28-Feb-20 09:31 AM] ononim#8141
Tantrum time


[28-Feb-20 09:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c4111b8ff9105edc7b210fc2e8c25d9b

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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — President Donald Trump's choice of Vice President Mike Pence to oversee the nation's response to the new coronavirus threat is bringing renewed scrutiny to the former...
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[28-Feb-20 10:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/a-corrupt-response-and-cover-up-trump-admin-appears-to-have-sparked-coronavirus-outbreak/

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[28-Feb-20 10:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/what-could-happen-as-coronavirus-spreads-america-cdc-prediction-2020-2

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Here's what the US could face in the coming months if the coronavirus spreads, according to the CDC.
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[28-Feb-20 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
and nobody will learn anything.


[28-Feb-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
non-'team player's hurting 'morale'. That's only thing they care about.


[28-Feb-20 10:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theintercept.com/2020/02/27/dnc-superdelegate-convention-gop-donor/

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[28-Feb-20 10:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Recent polls showing an enormous (13%) Sanders lead in super tuesday states


[28-Feb-20 10:59 AM] Crow#5457
can a president be prosecuted for treason after they leave office?


[28-Feb-20 10:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Probable: Biden wins SC (basically a given at this point), then Sanders stomps all over him on ST


[28-Feb-20 10:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow yes


[28-Feb-20 10:59 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if they gave him the death penalty


[28-Feb-20 11:00 AM] Crow#5457
also, are you up early or up late


[28-Feb-20 11:00 AM] byte[]#2610
late


[28-Feb-20 11:00 AM] byte[]#2610
there's no point with death sentencing


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the man is slated to die of a heart attack in the next few years


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] Crow#5457
I'm just wondering if it's possible for anyone as rich as trump to actually be sentenced to death in a proper court


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it will take too long


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"speedy and public trial" is no longer a right


[28-Feb-20 11:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it's whenever the courts get to you


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] Crow#5457
are the courts overloaded?


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I was forced to wait almost six months after being arrested just to get a preliminary hearing


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Full of low level federal drug charges


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] Crow#5457
what's overloading them? there should be more courts if they're overloaded


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] Crow#5457
the private prison industry


[28-Feb-20 11:02 AM] byte[]#2610
drug crimes are all federal not local


[28-Feb-20 11:03 AM] byte[]#2610
and have federal mandatory minimums


[28-Feb-20 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
drug crimes being federal only is retarded


[28-Feb-20 11:03 AM] byte[]#2610
drug crimes is retarded*


[28-Feb-20 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
well, that too


[28-Feb-20 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
but I mean just making it so only the federal courts handle a specific type of case that could be just as easily handled on a local level is retarded


[28-Feb-20 11:04 AM] byte[]#2610
welcome to federalism


[28-Feb-20 11:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the batshit insane legal system we have that gave birth to muh states rights


[28-Feb-20 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

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[28-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that second one (libertarian marxism) would be interesting


[28-Feb-20 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Libertarian Marxists criticize Marxism–Leninism for perceived differences from orthodox Marxism, opposing the Leninist principle of democratic centralism and the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of vanguardism. Along with Trotskyists, they also oppose the use of a one-party state which they view as inherently undemocratic, although Trotskyists are still Bolsheviks, subscribing to democratic centralism and soviet democracy, seeing their ideology as a more accurate interpretation of Leninism. Rosa Luxemburg, a Marxist theorist, emphasized the role of the vanguard party as representative of the whole class, and the dictatorship of the proletariat as the entire proletariat's rule, characterizing the dictatorship of the proletariat as a concept meant to expand democracy rather than reduce it - as opposed to minority rule in the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.


[28-Feb-20 11:07 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Marxism>


[28-Feb-20 11:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I have not studied Marx enough to comment


[28-Feb-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
since aaron's not here atm, obligatory reference to revolutionary catalonia as being a thing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia>


[28-Feb-20 11:08 AM] Crow#5457
though I don't thinke he's mentioned that in awhile


[28-Feb-20 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's the only time decentralized socialism's been done as far as I can tell


[28-Feb-20 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
every other socialist state (including the current ones like vietnam and cuba) has done centralized authoritarian socialism


[28-Feb-20 11:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/27/alabama-voting-rights-alfonzo-tucker

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Alabama blocked a man from voting because he owed $4
Alfonzo Tucker Jr is just one of millions of Americans who have been entangled in a racially biased system – and deprived of their democratic right
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[28-Feb-20 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
american't vote


[28-Feb-20 11:11 AM] byte[]#2610
more like


[28-Feb-20 11:11 AM] byte[]#2610
blacks can't vote


[28-Feb-20 11:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
4 Dollar vote.


[28-Feb-20 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he pays the $4 they'll just find something else to disqualify him over


[28-Feb-20 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
these shitty republican states aren't just disenfranchising blacks, even though they are the ones most affected


[28-Feb-20 11:13 AM] Crow#5457
> The US is founded on the promise of democracy and fair representation, but it is also the country where minorities are frequently disenfranchised for political gain. Among the most vulnerable are millions of Americans, disproportionately African Americans, like Tucker, who have been entangled in America’s racially biased criminal justice system, and lose civil liberties like voting as a result.


[28-Feb-20 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ccn.com/this-is-why-the-dow-jones-just-crashed-for-a-4th-straight-day/

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This Is Why the Dow Jones Just Crashed for a 4th Straight Day
The Dow Jones crashed for a fourth straight day on Thursday after Goldman Sachs revealed why Trump's reelection is in jeopardy.
https://www.ccn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/dow-jones-chart-trader-crash-reuters.jpg


[28-Feb-20 11:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-brokered-convention-expl/how-the-democratic-nominating-battle-could-end-in-a-messy-brokered-convention-idUSKCN20L3B0

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How the Democratic nominating battle could end in a messy 'brokered...
Seemingly every four years, political pundits speculate about a "brokered&q...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200227&t=2&i=1496202921&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG1Q23V


[28-Feb-20 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
> Goldman Sachs may have done even more damage to the stock market than California, though. Goldman analyst Ben Snider warned that the coronavirus outbreak could stop Trump from winning reelection in November.


[28-Feb-20 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
> Given that left-wing Bernie Sanders is the Democratic front-runner, this prediction could have a dramatic impact on the stock market.


[28-Feb-20 11:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Wall Street has been extremely confident of another Trump victory for some time.


[28-Feb-20 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
if bernie wins the primary, you're gonna be seeing democrats endorsing donald trump 100%


[28-Feb-20 11:34 AM] Opponent#3498
yep, I 100% expect that to happen


[28-Feb-20 11:36 AM] Opponent#3498
you can expect literally everyone, you can expect Warren to endorse Trump.


[28-Feb-20 11:36 AM] Opponent#3498
anything at all is fair game.


[28-Feb-20 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
what no, warren has basically no chance of endorsing trump


[28-Feb-20 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
she'd rather not endorse anyone over endorsing trump


[28-Feb-20 11:40 AM] Crow#5457
she's more likely to endorse bernie than not endorse anyone though


[28-Feb-20 11:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Warren will endorse Sanders


[28-Feb-20 11:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Warren may even be on his ticket


[28-Feb-20 11:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
How do I buy stocks? They could only go up from here right?


[28-Feb-20 11:48 AM] byte[]#2610
market's not finished crashing


[28-Feb-20 11:49 AM] byte[]#2610
wait a few more months


[28-Feb-20 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-claims-covid-19-could-disappear-2020-2

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Trump claimed coronavirus could 'disappear' in the United States, a...
"One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. And from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better ... Nobody really knows," Trump said.
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[28-Feb-20 12:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-vaccine-affordable-says-trump-administration-2020-2

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The Trump administration just backtracked and said a coronavirus va...
Only a day earlier, HHS Secretary Alex Azar declined to guarantee the vaccine's affordability and cited a need for private-sector involvement.
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[28-Feb-20 12:10 PM] Opponent#3498
who cares about optics, people come to their holy TVs to hear the Gospel of Saint Trump. They probably struggle to remember the day before anyway, so dazed are they by His glory.


[28-Feb-20 01:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/status/1233166355857334272

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ilhan tanir (@WashingtonPoint)
https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/status/1233166355857334272
#Breaking: 

Erdogan’s adviser on TV: We fought #Russia 16 times in the past, we will do it again, our vengeance will be quite terrible,”

Adviser predicts 25 million Muslims will dismember Russia. https://t.co/p6Ew8pwh3Z
Twitter


[28-Feb-20 01:07 PM] ononim#8141
kek


[28-Feb-20 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
yeah they're boned if they try to take on russia without full NATO backing


[28-Feb-20 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
and NATO seems hesitant to support turkey's invasion of syria


[28-Feb-20 01:23 PM] Crow#5457
it's kind of ironic that turkey got bombed to shit by russia after they made a deal to buy that missile defense system from russia though


[28-Feb-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/27/1922487/-America-is-about-to-get-a-godawful-lesson-in-why-health-care-should-never-be-a-for-profit-business

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America is about to get a godawful lesson in why health care should...
For four decades, American corporations have been caught up in a whole series of refinements that are intended to improve efficiency and productivity. Our processes are lean. Our efficiency is six-sigma. Our productivity has mysteriously run far ahead...
https://images.dailykos.com/images/771247/story_image/GettyImages-1203055407.jpg?1582831369


[28-Feb-20 02:21 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, trump's done


[28-Feb-20 02:21 PM] Crow#5457
they're trying to cover up how they brought coronavirus to the US


[28-Feb-20 02:21 PM] Crow#5457
stock market is in freefall


[28-Feb-20 02:22 PM] Crow#5457
even the fat cats are panicking now because the economy's on the verge of a recession because of the coronavirus


[28-Feb-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Born too early to explore the stars, born too late to take advantage of 80,000$ year candy store clerk pay. Born just in time to participate in death and dismemberment of America


[28-Feb-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
but the candy will be free


[28-Feb-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[28-Feb-20 02:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513191263894372352/682811719453900820/1582818832238.png

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[28-Feb-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
bruh


[28-Feb-20 03:17 PM] byte[]#2610
stock market is continuing to fall


[28-Feb-20 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
User in my gommie Discord be like
> Violent changes in economic graphs are my favorite aesthetic.


[28-Feb-20 03:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/garth-brooks-wears-sanders-shirt-at-michigan-show-gets-attacked-for-being-bernie-sanders-supporter

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Garth Brooks wears 'Sanders' shirt at Michigan show, gets attacked ...
Country music legend Garth Brooks posted a picture of himself in a Sanders jersey after his show Saturday night in Detroit, which created a bit of confusion and outrage from some of his fans.
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[28-Feb-20 03:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seems like conservatives are the snowflakes here but ok


[28-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Feb-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
not stonks


[28-Feb-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/falr7u/us_says_chinese_warship_fired_military_laser_at/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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r/worldnews - US says Chinese warship fired military laser at US ai...
36,211 votes and 4,294 comments so far on Reddit
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[28-Feb-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

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The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaki...
Dr. Anthony Fauci has advised six presidents on public-health crises. Now he's not allowed to speak publicly without White House approval.
https://i.insider.com/5e58ee7efee23d13142be204?width=1200&format=jpeg


[28-Feb-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485128-trump-to-take-part-in-fox-news-town-hall-in-pennsylvania

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Trump to do Fox News town hall in Pennsylvania next week
President Trump will field questions from voters at a Fox News town hall event in Scranton, Pa., next week, the network announced Friday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_022520_0.jpg


[28-Feb-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/stock-market-live-updates-dow-loses-3200-points-and-counting-on-week-bond-yields-collapsing.html

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Stock market live updates: Dow loses 4,000 points and counting on w...
The coronavirus continued to roil markets on Friday.
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[28-Feb-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/8VFxWDf

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“Together, I can buy this election”
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[28-Feb-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1630336/middle-east

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Man dies live on air while complaining about Iraq’s health service
RIYADH: An elderly Iraqi man died live on television as he complained about the country’s health services. The health ministry said Wednesday the man was on his way to Al-Yarmok Hospital after the authorities had removed him from his shop in Al-Dawrah region, causing him to fa...
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[28-Feb-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/02/28/whats-on-mike-pences-schedule-as-coronavirus-point-man-a-fundraiser-in-florida/

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What’s on Mike Pence’s schedule as coronavirus point man? A fundrai...
The $25,000-per-plate GOP event featuring the vice president is in Longboat Key.
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[28-Feb-20 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/tech/fake-twitter-candidate-2020/index.html

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A high school student created a fake 2020 candidate. Twitter verifi...
Andrew Walz calls himself a "proven business leader" and a "passionate advocate for students." Walz, a Republican from Rhode Island, is running for Congress with the tagline, "Let's make change in Washington together," or so his Twitter account claimed.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200227150742-02-teenager-twitter-verifies-fake-candidate-super-tease.jpg


[28-Feb-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/o05z5dtionj41.jpg number big life good crowd

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[28-Feb-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ManlnTheHoody/status/1233114186206470145?s=19

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m i t h (@ManlnTheHoody)
https://twitter.com/ManlnTheHoody/status/1233114186206470145?s=19
although people are doubtful of mike pence's ability to orchestrate a coronavirus response, my sources are telling me he is working diligently behind the scenes, collecting two of every animal
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[28-Feb-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/border-patrol-discovers-new-smuggling-tunnel-in-southern-us/ar-BB10u8Eh

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Border Patrol discovers new smuggling tunnel in southern US
Border Patrol discovers new smuggling tunnel in southern Arizona


[28-Feb-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/2/27/21120492/supreme-court-cfpb-seila-law-unitary-executive-kavanaugh

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The Supreme Court will decide if Trump can fire the head of the CFP...
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[28-Feb-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
spoiler: yes


[28-Feb-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/wyh2z8pjmkj41.jpg who's the snowflake, again?

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[28-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Best part is


[28-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about Barry Sanders


[28-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
not Bernie Sanders.


[28-Feb-20 06:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Feb-20 06:53 PM] ononim#8141
Comrade Corona


[28-Feb-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon you'll get a kick out of this one https://i.redd.it/n3h71uvxykj41.jpg

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[28-Feb-20 06:53 PM] ononim#8141
>then a virus probably will do more to combat climate change than industiral countries govs


[28-Feb-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Truly Prager has the biggest brain


[28-Feb-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is he saying that parents giv consent for their daughters?


[28-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It took me a good second to even understand that


[28-Feb-20 06:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, I think he means that if rape culture were a thing, parents wouldn't send their kids to campus out of fear


[28-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's slightly less dumb


[28-Feb-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd consider that dumber on a logical level, if having more sane premises.


[28-Feb-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> parents wouldn't send their kids to campus out of fear
my parents fear that, but also fear lack of job prospects more, so my sister got sent there


[28-Feb-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
to college I mean, not to rape


[28-Feb-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
I don't believe homeschooling for post-secondary education works for resume in America right?


[28-Feb-20 07:05 PM] ononim#8141
Parents send their kids to war, meaning possibility of mental trauma, physical disability or death form service is just libtard myth


[28-Feb-20 07:06 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I don't think being conscripted counts


[28-Feb-20 07:10 PM] ononim#8141
US doesn't do draft no more


[28-Feb-20 07:11 PM] ononim#8141
cus Officers in Vietnam got fragged


[28-Feb-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted, some people would love to re-instate the draft on a level of mandatory service for a year once you turn 18


[28-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
A lot of countries still do mandatory service


[28-Feb-20 07:17 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
However it is usually only a small % of all the people that turns on the proper age


[28-Feb-20 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is CNN like this <https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/opinions/sanders-versus-trump-disaster-dent/index.html>


[28-Feb-20 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51673053

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Coronavirus kills 210 in Iran - hospital sources
The tally by BBC Persian is six times higher than the health ministry's official death toll of 34.
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[28-Feb-20 08:22 PM] ononim#8141
https://theintercept.com/2020/02/27/border-wall-construction-organ-pipe-explosion/

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The Border Patrol Invited the Press to Watch It Blow Up a National ...
The Border Patrol detonated explosives on sacred Native American lands while tribal leaders were testifying against the desecration in Washington, D.C.
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[28-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
A disaster to hav actual choices of sides.


[28-Feb-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
We need to toe the line as hard as possible, gaiz.


[28-Feb-20 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li6sAZ_CyAo

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Spain Denounces Loot Boxes, Government Announces Plans For Regulation
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[28-Feb-20 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
@TSP gamer country


[28-Feb-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
Game devs and publishers are clever; they can probably find some innovative way to do the exact same mechanic but in a different visual form


[28-Feb-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
Also if it's just THINK OF THE CHILDRENS then RIP the adult compulsive gamblers


[28-Feb-20 09:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
devs stopped pushing lootboxes two years ago


[28-Feb-20 09:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Devs don't push lootboxes. pubs do.


[28-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SadZVJLJ0Tg/VzI8swDRgRI/AAAAAAAAkuo/dFY1XmHquH0ZqcM_BQfYxmjTSiXJZnt1ACLcB/s1600/mlp-comic-42-cover-jetpack.jpg

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[28-Feb-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah that happened


[28-Feb-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Feb-20 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/inside-a-london-familys-escape-from-wuhan-china-and-the-coronavirus-epidemic

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Jennifer Bieman
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Inside a London family's escape from Wuhan, China – and the coronav...
Out just in the nick of time and unsure of what’s next, a London family still reeling after a tense escape from the global epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak is trying to rebuild.
https://postmedialfpress.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/lfp20200225mh181_77264094-e1582674885387.jpg


[28-Feb-20 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Would equestria even know what a president is?


[28-Feb-20 09:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
They don't have much frame of reference outside of divine monarchy


[28-Feb-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pipsqueak: "I'm running for student pony president, I was hoping you three would be my campaign managers!"


[28-Feb-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The word is in their vocabulary, it involves an elected position that campaigns.


[28-Feb-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason to think they wouldn't understand a country having a president.


[28-Feb-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Celestia and Luna might be supernaturally powerful, but they aren't quite "divine".


[28-Feb-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1233478252569735169

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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1233478252569735169
All Confederate flags, bumper stickers and similar items must be removed from Marine Corps bases, according to a new directive from the commandant. https://t.co/9emk4hyYYq
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[28-Feb-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Finally the US army does something good


[28-Feb-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well, it seems like they're familiar with the idea of rising up against unjust rulers, so popular sovereignty is likely in full effect.


[28-Feb-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, they criticize a princess if she messes up an appearance at a KINDERGARTEN


[28-Feb-20 09:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the marines, not the army


[28-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, they might find it a little odd to place their faith in an election for such a serious position, rather than an oligarchical thing appointing an immortal powerful being, but that's about it.


[28-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the nations in FiM strongly adhere to meritocratic enlightenment thinking.


[28-Feb-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some big competition, winner becomes ruler.


[28-Feb-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which tends to result in hereditary rule by default and keeps the upper classes in charge.


[28-Feb-20 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@WingbeatPony whatever


[28-Feb-20 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They all wield shootys


[28-Feb-20 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And kill brown people


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes but do you understand the implication that a) exactly one branch of our armed forces has enacted this rule b) it happened in *2020*


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Funny thing to realize is Equestria would probably find it odd changing ruler every 4 years


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Luna got only 3!


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seriously what the fuck is with confederate apologists in the US


[28-Feb-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like Chinese people rooting for the Japanese Empire


[28-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Akknowledging that slavery was bad and it was the confederacy's main goal tears apart the argument for any sort of pride in the South.


[28-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because everyone has agreed, even the racists, at least on paper, that slavery is bad now.


[28-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also historians basically were all Southerners until the 1960s


[28-Feb-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The prominent ones at least


[28-Feb-20 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, but it's not about slavery! It's about...heritage! Or something


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the only way they can argue in favor of their own ancestors is to hide the slavery thing under the rug.


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's got to be one of the most downright *orwellian* sorts of behavior to be expected from US "patriots"


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody listened to Robert E Lee.


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's also turned into a sort of 2A calling card the way the "don't tread on me" flag is


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"We need an united and proud America, so let's stan for some separatist traitors who lost a war"


[28-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Americans love the rising up against the big gov't myth, do realize


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
so when Americans rise up against their own gov't


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
in a fight they couldn't possibly win


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not when communists do it tho


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's hard to properly paint it as bad.


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moral simplicity leads to shortcuts.


[28-Feb-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives prefer moral simplicity.


[28-Feb-20 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
they lost though. Less tragic, more stupid. Now rising up and _winning_ would be a whole different matter, but they lost.


[28-Feb-20 10:18 PM] Honahue#0656
presidents existed before the American' presidency and they tended to be kind low ranking postions, which was intentional when the US executive branch was naming the head of it, the idea to was to keep them from getting a big head, it was also a temporary title but well 250+ years isn't very temporary


[28-Feb-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
can I just say how weird it is, for a modern world to have 250 years of unbroken governmental history? Especially for a denisen of Europe.


[28-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gov'ts break because of invasion or military coups.


[28-Feb-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US is one of the hardest countries to invade, if not the hardest, and its military is large and distributed.


[28-Feb-20 10:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/cluster-of-deaths-found-at-wuhan-nursing-home-near-seafood-market

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Cluster of deaths found at Wuhan nursing home near seafood market
WUHAN (CAIXIN GLOBAL) - At least 19 people, mostly seniors, died in a social welfare facility in Wuhan located just one block away from the seafood market where the deadly Covid-19 outbreak is suspected to have originated, even though the local government acknowledged only one...
https://www.straitstimes.com/sites/default/files/styles/x_large/public/articles/2020/02/25/ab_market_250220.jpg?itok=4szz3hKm


[28-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I've kind of already accepted the conspiracy version of 20k by mid-Jan as headcanon. Knowing PRC we won't learn the true number anyway, whatever they might publish will be highly embelished.


[28-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
At every turn, China has stifled evidence.


[28-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is trying to do the same.


[28-Feb-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
We won't know the truth of this shit for decades.


[28-Feb-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
_checks on the stock market_


[28-Feb-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
so it recovered a bit from after hours trading yesterday


[28-Feb-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the weekend is going to be a slaughter


[28-Feb-20 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html
Mulvaney Criticizes Media at CPAC for Coverage of Coronavirus
The acting White House chief of staff plays down the risks of the virus and criticizes the media for not covering Mr. Trump’s son Barron, something Melania Trump has asked it not to do.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/28/us/politics/28dc-cpac-sub/28dc-cpac-sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Feb-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
"The Fed says it is willing to act if the outbreak worsens." that won't fix supply you idiots


[28-Feb-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
everyone in this administration is completely incompetent


[28-Feb-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485148-who-raises-coronavirus-threat-assessment-to-highest-level

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WHO raises coronavirus threat assessment to highest level
The World Health Organization (WHO) on Friday increased its coronavirus risk assessment to "very high" and warned foreign governments not to underestimate the threat.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/worldhealthorganizationwho_011719getty.jpg


[28-Feb-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/485218-appeals-court-rules-house-cant-sue-to-enforce-mcgahn-subpoena

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Appeals court rules House can't sue to enforce McGahn subpoena
A federal appeals court ruled on Friday that the House cannot sue to enforce a subpoena of former White House counsel Don McGahn, delivering a win for President Trump.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcgahndon_090618getty.jpg


[28-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
"The ruling argued that the Constitution forbids federal courts from resolving disputes between branches."


[28-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
So IOW, the Republican argument that it's up to the Judicial to resolve disputes between the Legislative and Executive is now directly contradicted by their ruling.


[28-Feb-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[28-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we're left with is that the president is a king.


[28-Feb-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
All that's left is to stop elections.


[28-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how so much coverage about the virus is "Hey, if you're feeling sick be smart and call in sick :^) "


[28-Feb-20 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bitch how


[28-Feb-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I argued in a forum that russia is using classic destabilization tactics like the CIA has been for decades and the other person argued :
>  And the logical solution, if that is the case, either to have a de facto one-party state like Putin's, where any opposition is crushed on the grounds that it [i]must[/i] be serving the interests of a hostile foreign state; and/or all this unseemly infighting within the Democratic Party (otherwise known as the democratic process) must give way to the benevolent autocracy of the Party leadership, which knows everything.
> 
> In other words, Russia can be fought only by....becoming a sort of version of Russia


[28-Feb-20 11:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie how likely is it for Trump to refuse to step down and his fellow GOPers all agree?


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
100%


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
100%


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He'll sue


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i misread the question


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Demand recounts


[28-Feb-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably try to force the supreme court to outlaw elections entirely


[28-Feb-20 11:10 PM] jlun2#8758
so Trump 2020 regardless?


[28-Feb-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll push it to SCOTUS and they'll hav to rule by January


[28-Feb-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll probably flounder when they refuse.


[28-Feb-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he may also attempt to pull a militarized state into action


[28-Feb-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he does love his toy soldiers


[28-Feb-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generals refuse orders, get fired, mess is made.


[28-Feb-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fox4news.com/news/cincinnati-church-wipes-out-46-5-million-in-medical-debt-for-45000-families

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Cincinnati church wipes out $46.5 million in medical debt for 45,00...
A megachurch in Cincinnati announced Sunday that it is paying off $46.5 million in medical debt for more than 45,000 families.
https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox4news.com/www.fox4news.com/content/uploads/2020/02/724/407/CincinnatiChurch1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[28-Feb-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
If the church can do it why can't the government


[28-Feb-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Checkmate atheists


[28-Feb-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of the time when Nixon was forced to step down


[28-Feb-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some say he had orders towards the military to "secure the white house and the government" or whatever


[28-Feb-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In practice a coup


[28-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Damn, Bloomberg moves fast


[28-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
his ads are already about medical research


[28-Feb-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Mind you whatever that research bears will cost 1k USD per vaccine, ofc


[28-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus a $500 charge for the actual application


[28-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And $200 for breathing oxygen and occupying physical space inside a clinic


[28-Feb-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Where are you even seeing these ads


[28-Feb-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
CNN atm


[28-Feb-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
What's on CNN that's worth watching...


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden looking like he may bounce back


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not much


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bounce back to where?


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie may not do as well on Super Tuesday


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden will do at least ok in SC


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I keep a bunch of channels muted in the background and unmute when something interesting comes up


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
but he's going to get trashed on super tuesday


[28-Feb-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And Alabama, Oklahoma etc


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
and then there's the thing where the superdelegates are planning to rig the second ballot


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
538 the way I'm looking at it


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie and Warren could get a majority


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, 
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1233441369156390912

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https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1233441369156390912
#New CNN/SSRS poll

California: 
Sanders 35%
Warren 14%
Biden 13%
Bloomberg 12%
Buttigieg 7%
Klobuchar 6%

Texas:
Sanders 29%
Biden 20%
Bloomberg 18%
Warren 15%
Buttigieg 8%
Klobuchar 3%
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[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But so could all the moderates merging


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden's doing better in Texas


[28-Feb-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody will drop after SC


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you do when two candidates both get like 1900 delegates


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But apparently not well enough to dispell Bernie


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
you pick the one the got the most votes


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
is this not obvious


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only Bernie answered that you should.


[28-Feb-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And this has won him some support.


[28-Feb-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So if Biden somehow has the most he should get it?


[28-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's say he has an amazing Super Tuesday or something


[28-Feb-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
By June, 200 more delegates than Bernie


[28-Feb-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[28-Feb-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
He should


[28-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie would concede to Biden if Bernie was second and it came to the convention.


[28-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He would then make a speech about how Biden may not be him, but is still much better than Trump.


[28-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden however would fight for those delegates at the convention.


[28-Feb-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why a lot of people prefer Bernie.


[28-Feb-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not everyone's happy he supported Hillary, but the guy isn't a moron and he doesn't just blindly adhere to things.


[28-Feb-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Clinton isn't even happy he supported her


[28-Feb-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
"Nobody likes you"


[28-Feb-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
http://i.imgur.com/BbQgU8a.jpg rattlesnake bite

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Hospital Bill for Rattlesnake Bite
https://i.imgur.com/BbQgU8a.jpg

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🇺🇸 (3) noose (3) kms (3) 

[28-Feb-20 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Saving this for my dad


[28-Feb-20 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Given he was almost bit by a rattler as a kid


[29-Feb-20 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is a rumor or a story going around the Coronavirus test costs some 1500$ and is not covered by insurance.


[29-Feb-20 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or maybe that was a Tweet I posted here


[29-Feb-20 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
I honestly do not remember.


[29-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a rumor, but also not correct.


[29-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy had to pay $1400 out of pokket on a copay.


[29-Feb-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND hospital is demanding years of medical records to prove the flu he got isn't related to a pre-existing condition.


[29-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you know, the ACA didn't cover every health plan


[29-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went to a cheaper plan to save money.


[29-Feb-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
US healthcare is many different layers of shitty.


[29-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.businessinsider.com/miami-man-doesnt-have-coronavirus-but-could-now-owe-thousands-2020-2

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https://www.businessinsider.com/miami-man-doesnt-have-coronavirus-but-could-now-owe-thousands-2020-2
A cautionary tale: A Miami man doesn't have the coronavirus but may...
A Miami man who had traveled to China came home with flu-like symptoms. He didn't have the coronavirus, but making sure cost him at least $1,400.
https://i.insider.com/5e540179fee23d12096afd7a?width=1200&format=jpeg


[29-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the headline framing.


[29-Feb-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a cautionary tale to not get tested for coronavirus even if you hav insurance.


[29-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:america:


[29-Feb-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't pay to get tested, can't pay for treatment, can't take days off sick


[29-Feb-20 12:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇺🇸


[29-Feb-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Butt Muh Free Dumbz


[29-Feb-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Freedom ain't free" [brap]


[29-Feb-20 12:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> he was almost bit by a rattler as a kid

> $153,161.25 for treatment
And boomers go "Why don't young people get kids anymore?"


[29-Feb-20 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>ad for migraine medicine
>it's fucking BOTOX


[29-Feb-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate my migraines but fuuuuck injecting myself with shit that can fucking kill me


[29-Feb-20 12:44 AM] ononim#8141
til, Kurt Blome the chief Nazi scientist in charge of human experimentation as it pertained to biological and chemical warfare and which included things such as spraying concentration camp prisoners with sarin gas as well as deliberately infecting them with malaria, bubonic plague, typhus and other diseases to try and find various ways to weaponize diseases in addition to giving cancer to prisoners and when he was captured at the end of the war and stood trial at Nuremberg the US government meddled in his trial to get him acquitted so he could be recruited for Operation Paperclip and conduct biological warfare studies for the US and his official US military file omitted mention of him having been prosecuted at Nuremberg


[29-Feb-20 12:44 AM] ononim#8141
anyway, death to america


[29-Feb-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, USSR did the same, right


[29-Feb-20 12:48 AM] ononim#8141
like, I knew they saved and hired engineers and intelligence officers, but fucking straight up people who conducted human experiments in concentration camps


[29-Feb-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not surprised


[29-Feb-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They hanged a dozen in Nuremberg, out of how many card-carrying nazis, many with doctorates


[29-Feb-20 12:51 AM] ononim#8141
like, to my knowledge, even with unit 731 scumfucks they didn't stright up hire them


[29-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/28/21153492/coronavirus-recession-china-stock-market-economy

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Will coronavirus cause a global recession? We still don’t know.
How deep or lasting any economic impact will depend on the coronavirus’s spread, and how governments manage the outbreak.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/l4gf867udbmtwZjatjkskvoeUhU=/0x432:4480x2778/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19746474/1203052537.jpg.jpg


[29-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
> how governments manage the outbreak


[29-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
the white house (read: trump) already brought coronavirus to the US


[29-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
we already know how the US is managing the outbreak


[29-Feb-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
by making it worse


[29-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's PR is mostly denying it's a problem at all


[29-Feb-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
An illness with a 2% lethality rate and a 3-4 contagion ratio is a fucking problem


[29-Feb-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/As9QX1T.mp4

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[29-Feb-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485241-california-confirms-second-case-of-coronavirus-with-unknown-origin

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California confirms second case of coronavirus with unknown origin
Health authorities in California are reportedly confirming a second coronavirus case in
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_gacoronavirus_021220istock_0.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/wLNWhU3

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https://imgur.com/t/current_events/wLNWhU3
Paying their share?
https://i.imgur.com/f7eNUO1h.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/gEa0ReJ.jpg

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[29-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
> Every person just needs to file as a corporation


[29-Feb-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
is this actually possible?


[29-Feb-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[29-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
One gigantic pass-thru entity


[29-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Logistically difficult, but theoretically possible.


[29-Feb-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie So Derpi Corp when?


[29-Feb-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
derpi cawp


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
wait that makes us sound like pigs


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
👮


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oink oink.


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're here to delete your meme.


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
behind that smiles lies a psychopath


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
who will shoot you for being slightly darker in skin tone


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
First he'll shoot your dog.


[29-Feb-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he'll shoot you.


[29-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[29-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
First the person


[29-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then the dog


[29-Feb-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The dog's anguish is much more genuine


[29-Feb-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/683022598405488647/image0-133.jpg

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[29-Feb-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
Something about black AJ here


[29-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
> "If this is for Bernie Sanders, I'm done with you," another user said. "I thought you were a true American that loves Our Country?"


[29-Feb-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, from that fox news article


[29-Feb-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://scontent-sjc3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t50.2886-16/88099246_501177967500920_8597620080415760072_n.mp4?_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_ohc=EZcAUlt7p4MAX_e-IP1&oe=5E5C39B6&oh=5fcec36418c4dd3d7f9a8412a87bd642

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[29-Feb-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon postponed https://www.gdconf.com/news/important-gdc-2020-update

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Important GDC 2020 Update
After close consultation with partners in the game development industry & community around the world, organizers have made the difficult decision to postpone the Game Developers Conference this March.
https://www.gdconf.com/sites/default/files/47363127472_5f8d406177_k_0.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/mcgahn-testimony-ruling/index.html

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Appeals court says Don McGahn doesn't have to testify in major win ...
A federal appeals court Friday dismissed the US House of Representatives' lawsuit seeking to force former White House counsel Don McGahn to testify, in a major win for the White House in its attempts to block officials from testifying to Congress.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/191125183648-03-don-mcgahn-file-super-tease.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
> "If federal courts were to swoop in to rescue Congress whenever its constitutional tools failed, it would not just supplement the political process; it would replace that process with one in which unelected judges become the perpetual 'overseer[s]' of our elected officials. That is not the role of judges in our democracy, and that is why Article III compels us to dismiss this case," Judge Thomas Griffith wrote in the opinion.


[29-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
... isn't that the job description of the federal courts?


[29-Feb-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
to step in when the constitutional tools of the other branches fail?


[29-Feb-20 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I can be charitable to the courts here


[29-Feb-20 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the duty of congress, when McGahn defied the subpoena, was to send the capitol police to arrest him


[29-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
I really don't understand why they aren't doing that


[29-Feb-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
it's like they're claiming they're declawed when they're only keeping their claws sheathed


[29-Feb-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-democrats-over-coronavirus-criticism-this-is-their-new-hoax

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Trump hits Democrats over coronavirus criticism: 'This is their new...
President Trump on Friday hammered the news media and Democrats, accusing them of unfairly criticizing his response to the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald4_022920getty.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
"hoax"


[29-Feb-20 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
too bad you can't demagogue this one away, cheeto


[29-Feb-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/mortgage-rates-hit-multiyear-low-coronavirus-housing-markets-fear-yield-2020-2-1028951038

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Mortgage rates fall to the lowest since 2012 amid coronavirus fears...
On Friday, the average rate on the 30-year fixed mortgage hit 3.23%, down from 3.42% at the beginning of the week, according to Mortgage News Da...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5683ee7cc08a801b008b5d70-1280/house-for-sale.jpg


[29-Feb-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
who's ready for Housing Crisis 2.0?


[29-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, not shocking it got affected, though I doubt a delay will do much


[29-Feb-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sucks for my company though, cancelling tickets ain't free and we had about a dozen people going


[29-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yes, the house definitely needs its own enforcement group


[29-Feb-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it has one


[29-Feb-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
the capitol police


[29-Feb-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
on paper


[29-Feb-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485249-trump-surveys-south-carolina-supporters-on-preferred-democratic-opponent

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Trump surveys South Carolina supporters on preferred Democratic opp...
President Trump on Friday polled a crowd of supporters ahead of the South Carolina primary to gauge who they believed would be an easier opponent in November.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald4_022920getty.jpg


[29-Feb-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hubris.


[29-Feb-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the pride comes before the fall


[29-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what did the crowd say would be easier?


[29-Feb-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders


[29-Feb-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A man who uses very similar rhetoric to Trump and has devoted followers


[29-Feb-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why he thinks that would be his best opponent, only he knows.


[29-Feb-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
socialism scary


[29-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's scary because people know it's close


[29-Feb-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
they claim sanders would be easier not because of hubris, but because in their own little worldview that pushes out any influence other than other conservatives, sanders isn't popular


[29-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
they basically construct an entire fantasy world in which sanders has no power, the reason why it affects people like my mom so much though is because she's smart enough to not just completely deny all the evidence from outside sources, at least on a subconscious level


[29-Feb-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
she's trying to maintain both that fantasy world with no outside influence while also realizing, at least subconsciously, that bernie is much more popular than her conservative talking heads would have her believe


[29-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
she constantly alternates between saying that trump would beat bernie in the general election and getting mad that bernie is so popular


[29-Feb-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
and wondering how so many people are so "stupid" to have been duped by an "obvious conman like bernie"


[29-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are mad.


[29-Feb-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've had to explain this to my parents too, who don't get why people get mad or are mean about politics.


[29-Feb-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They bemoan the loss of civility all the time.


[29-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you aren't mad at children in cages, you should be in the cages.


[29-Feb-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is that simple.


[29-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Civility has for a long time been the shield, as well as sword actually, of conservative rule.


[29-Feb-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, the peasants are starving, and you come to the Queen and rage about it, and she says "Why there's no need to be upset! Let them eat cake!"


[29-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile cake is affordable to her cause it's cheap as shit, to a point she could paint her walls with it, but still too expensive for the peasants to even consider.


[29-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's what Marie Antoinette **meant** (altho her actually saying the phrase is questionable, it was definitely the sentiment).


[29-Feb-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be the equivalent of saying today "let them eat ramen"


[29-Feb-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
To people who make 5 cents a day.


[29-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the moment you say like


[29-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
that brown people should be given shit as compensation


[29-Feb-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
or that something keeping them down is bad


[29-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly you see conservatives drop civility for a moment to counterattakk.


[29-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a damn sham.


[29-Feb-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deface the currency of the realm, @Itsthinking.


[29-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh they get mad at stuff like that


[29-Feb-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they also talk a lot about how mean Trump is etc


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't want either.


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you act with civility towards fascism, it's what you get in return.


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment it has power, it will drop civility to target you.


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't want there _to_ be things for people to get mad at


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No kids in cages, no uncouth president, etc


[29-Feb-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what I hate about a lot of people's mentalities.


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think the problem with politics is there's disagreement.


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hate the idea of kids in cages but like


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they become uninvolved, assume everything's golden


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't mind disagreement, just being a dick about it


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, they really do mind disagreement, at the core of things.


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've talked about this before


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everywhere you look, people say "I hate politics"


[29-Feb-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and when you dig deep


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're like, left-center mostly-agrees-with-Bernie


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they get mad because people whine about stuff in vidya


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they get mad because suddenly Dems and the GOP are fighting over paying workers


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they don't know SHIT about what it's actually about


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just start from the assumption that there aren't like, literal Disney villains in office.


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They assume they don't need to vote.


[29-Feb-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They assume it's pointless to read the news.


[29-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then one day they wake up and there's a big flame war about something the president did.


[29-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they're like "but WHYYYY? SHOULDN'T POLITICS JUST BE ABOUT CHANGING A FEW TAX NUMBERS"


[29-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't know what's at actual fukking stake.


[29-Feb-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they've been raised by Boomer mentalities of sit down, shut up, and do your work.


[29-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you told them that The Lion King is a movie about politics they'd not fukking understand.


[29-Feb-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they don't get that what "politics" really means at its core is like HOW TO STOP NAZIS FROM TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY


[29-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
(or how NOT to, for the other side)


[29-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you told them there are people who root for the Empire in Star Wars, they'd also not get it.


[29-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there are.


[29-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of Boomers root for the Empire.


[29-Feb-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Rebels are messy, less organized, more ragtag, like hippies.


[29-Feb-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Empire promises authoritarian order.


[29-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the core of things the "standard centrist" really believes that like, "Fascists = anti-fascists, can't we all sing kumbayah and fix some broken bridges while the Jews are gassed? Wait...the jews are being gassed? Nah, can't be, everything's fine!"


[29-Feb-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that that last bit is the same argument PragerU uses about rape culture on campuses.


[29-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is that X thing is so bad, it can't be real, so it isn't.


[29-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen people who say Trump *can't* actually want children in cages, because for someone to be that evil is impossible.


[29-Feb-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That he must deep down care, but that it must be unavoidable to put children in cages.


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no matter how hard you try, people like that will always retort with "but I think he has good in his heart...he can't want this!"


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, people who don't think black and white morality can ever exist


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything must be gray, it has to be


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not even


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
it usually is.


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
they like


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
think everything has to be white


[29-Feb-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That all problems are just unavoidable mistakes and unfortunate circumstances.


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
dems fighting with GOP about worker pay - pay the white workers as little as possible vs pay the illegal immigrants workers, as little as possible.


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
etc.


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who think that an immigrations system that denies people to their deaths is just "unavoidable", and then do 😿 a little.


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who see a little girl dying of cancer


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
that's why seing Bernie is so suprising. Suprising that he's not dead yet.


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
who could be saved with a new treatment


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but gets denied it by health insurance


[29-Feb-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and go "wow, tragic, I feel so bad for the little girl, it's bad 😿 "


[29-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you ask them about the health insurance and they go "yeah, really unfortunate, but they tried their best"


[29-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it always a cat crying


[29-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because cats are the animals that idiots attach to.


[29-Feb-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when people want to put on a cutesy face and pretend that there aren't bad people in the world.


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea that someone would just literally want to kill brown people is unthinkable to them.


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it just a myth or don't most cats carry bacteria that can mess with your mind


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life is cat videos.


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence crazy cat people


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cats carry a parasite that can briefly get in and make you lazy


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but your immune system will take care of it after a while.


[29-Feb-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes a parasite


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't greatly affect cat owners.


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of these people AREN'T themselves cat owners


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just watch cat videos all day


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is emotions to them


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The news is bad because it makes them too sad.


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the audience of all those posts about how a girl used a bake sale to pay for cancer treatment.


[29-Feb-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to warm their heart with a story of overcoming tragedy.


[29-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not think for a moment that someone evil caused the tragedy to happen.


[29-Feb-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually finding out what one of these idiots believes in another server was a big eye-opener.


[29-Feb-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just today he struggled to put 2 and 2 together when I told him "woke" is political.


[29-Feb-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now does it make more sense, @Itsthinking?


[29-Feb-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[29-Feb-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the people who answer strongly positively about the political compass quiz question that is basically "It's a good idea to not think about bad things and focus on better things"


[29-Feb-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[29-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get annoyed not just that the kids are in cages, but that it's what people talk about.


[29-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe that suffering, in extremely high amounts, is endemic to human life and that there's nothing that can be done.


[29-Feb-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very Christian thing.


[29-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You remind them of global warming and they say you're being an ass.


[29-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also kind of an American thing.


[29-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like, Amercian politics are fukked up.


[29-Feb-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't look at them seriously and think people are good unless you go into complete denial.


[29-Feb-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, apparently my mom talked to some elderly women recently and they were like, adamant that they want steak cooked rare


[29-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A guy told them to their face that's a horrible risk to take because of e coli, and they just would not listen, at all.


[29-Feb-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That comes from secondhand things about "proper" ways to eat things etc


[29-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
how common do people actually have complications from eating undercooked beef


[29-Feb-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
curious


[29-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I assume it only really affects the elderly/immunocompromised/young


[29-Feb-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tartare is a regular dish in some places


[29-Feb-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
@Raptorshy


[29-Feb-20 03:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Not often at all unless what he said


[29-Feb-20 03:46 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Apparently in some parts of asia eating raw chicken is even a thing


[29-Feb-20 03:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And if it's seared, there should be virtually no risk


[29-Feb-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the conditions in which we raise animals are fairly disturbing


[29-Feb-20 03:49 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The biggest risk comes from surface bacteria that ends up on the cut during slicing, either from the environment and poor sanitation or from accidentally cutting the intestines when separating the meat


[29-Feb-20 03:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
American meat in particular has really horrible conditions, both for workers and the animals. In the style of other factory work, they're pushed to cut and move meat as fast as possible, and safety/sanitation is almost an afterthought


[29-Feb-20 03:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also I remember reading in The Omnivore's Dilemma that meth use is rampent in slaughterhouses, which definitely doesn't help safety.


[29-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SwanOfTuonela/status/1233493251140849668

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My home town has launched a 2,5 million euro project called Safe Oulu that aims at combating the (migrant) rape crisis. 

This is where the money goes. 

Kill me now.

At least, be kind and lobotomize me so I won't have to live with this image in my head. https://t.co/NuAPAS1...
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[29-Feb-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[29-Feb-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I never made it through _The Jungle_


[29-Feb-20 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow so many chuds in the replies saying they should deport the refugees


[29-Feb-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I frankly hate it when liberal centrists do shit like this that tarnishes the image of the pro-refugee movement


[29-Feb-20 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait the OP is a chud too lol


[29-Feb-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] basically the guy becomes a seasonal farm worker, his family falls apart without him, he returns to hear of the horror, and then the last 5 pages are a long internal rant about how socialism is the solution that will save us all


[29-Feb-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah this is obvious far-right propaganda


[29-Feb-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Crow you kinda posted cringe


[29-Feb-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Relatedly


[29-Feb-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Asthasaxena88/status/1233314363487875072

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https://twitter.com/Asthasaxena88/status/1233314363487875072
The stories of grieving families. The death toll has gone up to 42 today. The number was 38 till yesterday. We tried to speak to the families who have identified the dead bodies and were waiting outside the mortuary. 
Here is the thread: https://t.co/B5KXTSNqw7
Twitter


[29-Feb-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anti-Muslim violence in India


[29-Feb-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I did say "what the fuck" when I posted it


[29-Feb-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know but uh


[29-Feb-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was presented by someone far-right who's obviously using it to pedal their xenophobic discourse


[29-Feb-20 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The last thing i want is more fuel for white supremacists complaining about the new flow of refugees coming from Turkey


[29-Feb-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
is there actually a migrant rape crisis


[29-Feb-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[29-Feb-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, you mean that the people who made the video are far-right, or the user who posted it is far-right?


[29-Feb-20 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1232856428689285121

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I just noticed something: 100% of the media coverage of COVID-19 is editorialized against the virus. Why aren't there any pro virus takes for balance? Why is the MSM pushing a coordinated anti-virus agenda?
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[29-Feb-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
it got posted as a screencap a couple days ago, but here's the source


[29-Feb-20 06:01 AM] jlun2#8758
is he serious or trolling


[29-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trolling.


[29-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a direct attakk on conservative "MSM" propaganda.


[29-Feb-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which says that since all the media says X is bad, it must be biased, X surely couldn't just be bad!


[29-Feb-20 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
Alright. It's rather hard to tell sometimes given some people are nuts.


[29-Feb-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally just watch Smallpox 2002 anytime a major outbreak happens


[29-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Cloudy#3004
He tried, bless him


[29-Feb-20 06:10 AM] Cloudy#3004
https://time.com/4848951/mike-pence-nasa-do-not-touch/

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Mike Pence Touches NASA Equipment Marked 'Do Not Touch'
The image has now become a meme
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/mike-pence-nasa-touch.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[29-Feb-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485255-there-are-fewer-registered-republicans-than-independents-for-the-first-time

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There are fewer registered Republicans than independents for the fi...
There are now more registered independents than Republicans, marking a first for the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/voterregistration_100116getty.jpg


[29-Feb-20 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
> According to data from Ballot Access News, independents make up 29.09 percent of registered voters, while Republicans make up 28.87 percent and Democrats make up 39.66 percent. The data comes from the 31 states that require registration by party.


[29-Feb-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact this doesn't say anything about which party is ahead is honestly disturbing.


[29-Feb-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I think Pence specifically asked before touching, and the sign is mainly for random idiots given a tour, but still, do not touch the precious space equipment, for fukk's sake.


[29-Feb-20 06:42 AM] jlun2#8758
> In 2004, Democrats made up 42.19 percent of the vote, Republicans made up 32.79 percent of the vote and independents made up 23.15 percent of the vote. The number of independents has been growing since, while the number of Democrats and Republicans has slowly declined.
:ponythinking:


[29-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, what do you mean? it shows all the numbers


[29-Feb-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The article says it means nothing for the general election.


[29-Feb-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
why would people be switching from republican to independent because they don't like the republican party atm but still vote for the reason why they're leaving?


[29-Feb-20 06:59 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[29-Feb-20 07:02 AM] byte[]#2610
probably people who don't like the democrats either


[29-Feb-20 07:02 AM] byte[]#2610
so much for being democratic


[29-Feb-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who think "Democrat" means "communist", but got mad that Trump destroyed their community too


[29-Feb-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they vote for whatever Republican shitbag comes on the ballot as he promises he'll get Trump to spread the love to their community.


[29-Feb-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/2ZMtw5X

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Healthcare horror story. There has to be a better way in the "Greatest Country on Earth."
https://i.imgur.com/EAeaQGih.jpg


[29-Feb-20 07:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow Wait, so is she blaming Obama for her son's death?
@Nebbie 
> so they vote for whatever Republican shitbag comes on the ballot as he promises he'll get Trump to spread the love to their community.
what


[29-Feb-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
read the thread


[29-Feb-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's more than one image


[29-Feb-20 07:25 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow Ah, thanks. Also ouch $175k


[29-Feb-20 07:25 AM] byte[]#2610
the hospital put a lien on her house


[29-Feb-20 07:25 AM] byte[]#2610
this shit should be illegal


[29-Feb-20 07:53 AM] jlun2#8758
Anyone excited for SC


[29-Feb-20 07:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Only if Sanders wins


[29-Feb-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2020/02/28/trump-urges-south-carolina-republicans-to-vote-for-bernie-sanders/

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Trump urges South Carolina Republicans to vote for Bernie Sanders
President Trump is urging Republicans to vote in South Carolina’s Democratic primary on Saturday for the weakest candidate — determining that is Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Trump, hosting a …
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[29-Feb-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
> He asked audience members to cheer for the Democrat they’d prefer be his easiest-to-beat opponent — Sanders or former Vice President Joe Biden.
> 
> “I think maybe Crazy Bernie has it,” Trump said.
> 
> Asking one more time for his supporters to cheer for either former vice president Biden or Sanders, Trump confirmed: “They think Bernie’s easier to beat.”


[29-Feb-20 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
what if they actually would vote for bernie over him in the general though


[29-Feb-20 02:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/29/uk/london-renting-compared-berlin-gbr-grm-intl/index.html

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Welcome to London's rental market, where $2,000 a month gets you a ...
At first glance the advertisement looks decent: A one-bedroom flat in London's trendy Camden Town, situated in a pretty townhouse and boasting "high ceilings" and "designer marble worktops."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200212131343-05-london-rental-market-intl-super-tease.jpg


[29-Feb-20 02:49 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/FreeRangeCritic/status/1233536447749201921?s=20

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I don't exactly know what to do with this, but I witnessed and recorded the police-involved shooting at the Grand Red Line station in Chicago a little over an hour ago. This is my unedited video. (Trigger warning, obviously.) https://t.co/tIrv1RfTN3
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[29-Feb-20 03:51 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
I just realized something


[29-Feb-20 03:51 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
Why are we building a wall around us and mexico but.. not Canada?


[29-Feb-20 03:52 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
What our pants need a belt with a Texas belt buckle but our hat doesn't need a sweat band?


[29-Feb-20 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
because mexico has brown people


[29-Feb-20 03:57 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
America and Canada have brown people


[29-Feb-20 03:58 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
Africa, India, China, Japan, Korea, aaaaaaalll have black people


[29-Feb-20 03:58 PM] ♦Red Diamond♦#0706
The only race that matters is the people. The Human race


[29-Feb-20 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/SCOP_MuslimBanV2_02202016.png

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http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/SCOP_MuslimBanV2_02202016.png


[29-Feb-20 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait...who was even responsible for asking this exit poll question in the first place


[29-Feb-20 04:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno


[29-Feb-20 04:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was 2016, but found it now and damn


[29-Feb-20 05:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/25/third-of-poland-lgbt-free-zone-atlas-of-hate-homophobia/

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A third of Poland has now been declared an ‘LGBT-free zone’, making...
A third of Poland has now declared itself to be an official "LGBT-free" zone as local towns sign a pledge adopting resolutions against "LGBT propaganda".
https://s31242.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screenshot-2020-02-25-at-17.52.47.png


[29-Feb-20 05:21 PM] ononim#8141
```“ Nearly 100 Polish municipal or local governments have now proclaimed themselves to be “free from LGBTI ideology”. Local authorities in these areas pledge to refrain from acts that encourage tolerance and must avoid providing financial assistance to NGOs working to promote equal rights. “```


[29-Feb-20 05:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Why is poland like this


[29-Feb-20 05:23 PM] jlun2#8758
and is this spreading


[29-Feb-20 05:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Why are we building a wall around us and mexico but.. not Canada?


[29-Feb-20 05:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why wall off a country you eventually plan to gain control of? :twismug:


[29-Feb-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.dw.com/en/polands-young-voters-turning-to-the-right/a-47439606
Well, it's spreading in Poland at least.

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Poland's young voters turning to the right | DW | 09.02.2019
Young people in Poland disproportionately vote for right-wing parties. This shift is not just a temporary trend — the country's increasingly patriotic youth are longing for more conservative values.
https://www.dw.com/image/19031504_304.jpg


[29-Feb-20 06:02 PM] byte[]#2610
poland is gay


[29-Feb-20 06:04 PM] Cloudy#3004

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[29-Feb-20 06:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Poland was a mistake


[29-Feb-20 06:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
All the young pols left because of all the right wingers accusing anything left of centre as communism. That is what the polish people I know of have told me at least.


[29-Feb-20 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy that doesn't sound familiar at all, who would do something like that

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[29-Feb-20 06:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony commie phobia for life


[29-Feb-20 07:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stuck-in-wuhan-chinas-coronavirus-capital-russian-models-instagram-their-stories

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The Russian Models Instagramming From China’s Coronavirus Capital
The empty streets, the face masks, the alarmist news reports. It all seemed like a fun tale to tell at first. But no more.
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[29-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/young-democratic-socialists-bernie-sanders/index.html

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These are the democratic socialists backing Bernie Sanders
Connor McClelland is a democratic socialist. He says it's because of where he's from.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200227230344-young-socialists-conference-5-super-tease.jpg


[29-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
onoes, the democratic socialists


[29-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
> "I think we have to restructure society in a different way. There has to be more regulation. There has to be a vision for the future in which the people who work are valued higher than they are now."


[29-Feb-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
the """socialists"""


[29-Feb-20 07:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/us/scientology-balloons-plastic-ban-trnd/index.html

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The Church of Scientology released hundreds of balloons at the open...
Officials in California say the Church of Scientology is apologizing after releasing hundreds of balloons during a grand opening of a new church.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200226111121-scientology-church-plastic-ban-super-tease.jpg


[29-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/683377727406866491/wage-graphic.png

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[29-Feb-20 07:32 PM] Midknight#9798
Welp. Guess we should have let Germany have poland after all


[29-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
that would've just made them eve more far right tho


[29-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
poland has always been conservative


[29-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
they just weren't quite fascists


[29-Feb-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
though they are closer to fascism today than they were back before ww2


[29-Feb-20 07:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Coronavirus: Trump to give update as first death in U.S. from virus is announced 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/coronavirus-trump-give-update-white-house-saturday-n1145921

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Coronavirus: Trump to give update as first death in U.S. from virus...
The president announced the briefing following reports of additional cases in the United States.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_09/3247191/200227-donald-trump-mike-pence-ew-219p_51bf91137fab0bdebeca7865ed6e5d06.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[29-Feb-20 07:51 PM] illumnious#7938
F


[29-Feb-20 07:53 PM] ononim#8141
The democrats are killing Americans, to fuel their #CoronaHoax !


[29-Feb-20 07:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Look people, Corona: it's fine. I drink it all the time. It won't make you sick. Trust me, I was drinking Corona back stage just now. There is no Coronavirus. It's a hoax people! A hoax! A democrat hoax!"

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[29-Feb-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Coronavirus panic is just Democratic hoax, Trump says

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/02/29/trump-calls-coronavirus-hysteria-the-democrats-new-hoax/23937129/

He’s not even trying

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President Trump calls coronavirus 'hysteria' the Democrats' 'new hoax'
Health officials warn that the spread of the coronavirus in the U.S. is inevitable.
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[29-Feb-20 08:30 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Stock market says otherwise :p


[29-Feb-20 08:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't take 30 seconds of listening to Pence talk about this


[29-Feb-20 08:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's genuinely lie after lie


[29-Feb-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, he actually said MERS is worse. I refer you to this chart from yesterday: https://i.imgur.com/As9QX1T.mp4

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[29-Feb-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200225/10294443981/supreme-court-says-ok-border-patrol-agents-to-kill-mexican-citizens-as-long-as-they-die-mexico.shtml

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Supreme Court Says It's OK For Border Patrol Agents To Kill Mexican...
Border Patrol agents kill a lot of people, most of them citizens of another country. For years, agents have been able to open fire on people in moving vehicles and [checks Congressional report] people throwing rocks at them. New guidelines were handed...
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[29-Feb-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Supreme Court Says It's OK For Border Patrol Agents To Kill Mexican Citizens As Long As They Die In Mexico


[29-Feb-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is the sort of shit wars are started over, but oh well


[29-Feb-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
America is special


[29-Feb-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1233061641861976064

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You can’t actually find quotes from Bernie Sanders praising dictators by name, saying they’re good people or good friends of his, because they don’t exist,” says @mehdirhasan. https://t.co/30aVWVKVrM https://t.co/pjksoasuql
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[29-Feb-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/2/29/21157246/oregon-republicans-walk-out-climate-change-cap-trade-democracy

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Oregon Republicans are subverting democracy by running away. Again.
The latest escalation mirrors growing anti-democratic sentiment in the national GOP.
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[29-Feb-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] 
> While Hernandez may have died in Mexico, the bullets were fired by an officer on United States soil.
Does that mean they could just snipe people kilometers away in Mexico while sitting in US and be legally allowed to do so?


[29-Feb-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[29-Feb-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Also called "how to get mexico to declare war in 3 easy shots"


[29-Feb-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
and they could probably use drones and fly vertically to target even further?


[29-Feb-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
or helicopter


[29-Feb-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
No


[29-Feb-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
well, maybe, but those shots are impossible to target precisely


[29-Feb-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/530790309118869505/683329037984464924/IMG_20200229_070327.jpg?width=1102&height=678

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[29-Feb-20 09:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:ponkthonk:


[29-Feb-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really, really _really_ want 2024 to be the election where pundits decide to run


[29-Feb-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want Ben Shapiro and Chuck Todd on the same stage


[29-Feb-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking are they both over 35


[29-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think so?


[29-Feb-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes Shapiro is 36 and would be 40 by 2024


[29-Feb-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Todd is 47 and would be 51


[29-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
```This is the sort of shit wars are started over```


[29-Feb-20 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
Mexico is free to complain to someone I suppose xD


[29-Feb-20 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] is that even fixable at Oregon


[29-Feb-20 10:03 PM] Treascair#7785
Speaking as an Oregonian born and bred... these fuckwits really need to be held to account. Arrested, ideally.


[29-Feb-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/606919/
Well, at least the shitty AI magic wand solution isn't mentioned

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Tech Experts Are Pessimistic About Their Industry
Silicon Valley has hit a midlife crisis.
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[01-Mar-20 12:05 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RudawEnglish/status/1233870259079262214

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[01-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
war by schedule, nice.


[01-Mar-20 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967

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China pollution clears amid coronavirus slowdown
Nasa says major decreases in nitrogen dioxide levels are "at least partly" linked to the outbreak.
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[01-Mar-20 12:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If nobody is driving around delivering, going to or from work and using as much dirty power as industrial manufacturing equipment does then pollution goes away. I am surprised.


[01-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"How do we make something sound good about this crisis?"


[01-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
SC polls closed


[01-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
first results expected to be in soon


[01-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Exit polls show Biden winning.


[01-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485285-biden-scores-major-win-in-south-carolina-primary#

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Biden scores major win in South Carolina primary
COLUMBIA, S.C. – Joe Biden decisively won the South Carolina primary on Saturday, delivering the former vice president a much-needed victory that he hopes will mark the beginning of a comeback for his presidential campaign.
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[01-Mar-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
expected


[01-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
40-20 is expected.


[01-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not sure it's enough


[01-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
For Biden to win the nomination? Hell no.


[01-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Super Tuesday is gonna leave Bernie way ahead.


[01-Mar-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it just makes it more likely for contested convention


[01-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's "shot" here is that he can rob Bernie of an outright majority, get superdelegates to vote for him, lose to Trump.


[01-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again once Liz drops out it's over


[01-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah if she drops and endorses Bernie, Biden's hosed.


[01-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If she'd done it right after the previous debate, he could've tied Biden.


[01-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
April it will be over


[01-Mar-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that sounds like that minion planning meme
Also 40 delegates ouch


[01-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Appears to be Biden's Nevada


[01-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolute blowout


[01-Mar-20 01:48 AM] ononim#8141
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[01-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why can't carville just get explosive ass cancer

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[01-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has to shill himself despite being the strategist for the second easiest Democratic race in recent memory


[01-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HW was totally fucked in 1992 no matter what essentially


[01-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how every state's voters are the smartest and most pragmatic


[01-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every state's voters are the absolute best people


[01-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every state objectively has violent pedophiles so


[01-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some who I assume are uncaught and voting


[01-Mar-20 03:07 AM] jlun2#8758
What happens to the remaining delegates if all the others get 0?

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[01-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
the rest of the delegates commit ritual suicide.


[01-Mar-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Revisiting some old Chapo https://youtu.be/uqy1het0Gkw

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[01-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Steyer dropped


[01-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well at least he got to see his friend Bernie a few times.


[01-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/previously-unreleased-defense-dept-email-confirms-trump-made-final-decision-on-withholding-ukraine-aid/

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Emails revealed late Friday show that President Trump made the “final decision” to withhold aid to Ukraine over the protests of his top advisors.
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[01-Mar-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> if there are no minorities to oppress
time to make some caste system and randomly assign people castes


[01-Mar-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
then they'll guarantee start oppressing each other


[01-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Would you prefer a society run by vampires or by humans"
"Well, I'd pick vampires, so long as am I vampire ofc"


[01-Mar-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least then you can do The Mash


[01-Mar-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Careful, it catches on in a flash

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[01-Mar-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Mar-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/askteenboys/comments/fazhjw/what_would_you_rather_have_communism_or_fascism/

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r/askteenboys - What would you rather have, communism, or fascism?
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[01-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
christ these comments


[01-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
a jewish person said they'd prefer fascism because they'd die faster


[01-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Crow#5457
and that under "communism", they'd either starve or be worked to death, under fascism, they'd be gassed or shot


[01-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
that seems to be the gist of most of the replies actually


[01-Mar-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pictured: me giving da libs the dead-eyed stare as they call state capitalism "communism"

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[01-Mar-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
>pannekoek


[01-Mar-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
half a press boi


[01-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
> Both communism and fascism suck ass but i would probably have to go with fascism even though its horrible and sucks the living conditions seem to be better for those that arent targeted


[01-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
another dude's banking on not being targetted


[01-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[01-Mar-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
first they came for the...


[01-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
someone said "Communism for sure. Ancom is a thing, right?", the OP replied "No we’re talking authoritarian"


[01-Mar-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
would you like fascism or fascism


[01-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
so basically they just wanted to set it up so that you have to choose between two different authoritarian systems


[01-Mar-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
well, fascism of course!


[01-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
which are basically the same thing


[01-Mar-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
cake or death :twiright:


[01-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/askteenboys/comments/fazhjw/what_would_you_rather_have_communism_or_fascism/fj31jss/>


[01-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
the OP again


[01-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Yah but as long as the nation is homogeneous not much damage will be done


[01-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
seems like he just wanted to peddle a pro-fascist argument


[01-Mar-20 04:44 AM] jlun2#8758
> as long as the nation is homogeneous not much damage will be done
That person probably has never heard of the amazing ability for people to see others as "the enemy" even if they're all identical to each other.


[01-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
the crooked-left noses and the crooked-right noses


[01-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
damn right nosers


[01-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[01-Mar-20 04:50 AM] jlun2#8758
oh wow. Bernie managed to at least get 20%


[01-Mar-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
91% reporting, biden's at 48.6% with 28 delegates, bernie's at 20% even with 7 delegates, steyer's at 11.3% with 0 (he dropped out tho), and pete's at 8.1% with 0 delegates


[01-Mar-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Pete might drop after ST


[01-Mar-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Still up in the air


[01-Mar-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I feel like this is a pretty advantageous for bernie, even if he didn't win overall


[01-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
why is biden so popular in south carolina?


[01-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
is that his home state or something?


[01-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
no, his home state is pennsylvania


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Black people


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OBAMA


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's been riding on Obama's coattails hard


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And SC is a conservative state


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Conservatives love old people that don't want to rock the boat


[01-Mar-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Obama was our first black republican president


[01-Mar-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Let us pray there are no more


[01-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Obama's half white


[01-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
I'm half white, does that mean I'm closer to obama than anyone else?


[01-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was our first "smile and drone rando brown people" president


[01-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
(my dad's from india tho)


[01-Mar-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
No you're a dumb bird

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[01-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
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[01-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Obama bombed people in Pakistan


[01-Mar-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's somehow not an issue


[01-Mar-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuckit I guess, borders and ROE mean nothing


[01-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"credible threat" and just blast people away wherever they are, except the US


[01-Mar-20 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It sure seems to be an issue any time my political ant farm needs a whataboutism argument


[01-Mar-20 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm beginning to wonder why I even bother to keep tabs on them, their answers have become 100% predictable


[01-Mar-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
The fact that Obama did some bad things doesn't mean he wasn't infinitely better than Trump


[01-Mar-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
trump has all the bad parts of obama cranked up to 11 and none of the good parts


[01-Mar-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bush was tragedy, Trump is farce. Something something Zizek probably wrote about it somewhere


[01-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electing Nixon was the greatest mistake America ever made.


[01-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I could shit in a bag and it'd still be infinitely better than Trump


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He bombed Cambodia because of Vietnamese using it to hide


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is an outlier and should not be considered for any metric


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
doing such had no real effect except to create a genocidal communist regime


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
and make it clear that borders mean nothing for US wars.


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's legitimately mentally ill


[01-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama was just following standard practice in the US by the time he came into office


[01-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, "preemptive self-defense" combined with completely ignoring countries' borders.


[01-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've been nice if he instead reversed the practice and got on Congress' ass to beef up constitutional protections


[01-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
but no, he was a hypocrite


[01-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shortly before he left office, he said he had a fear a future president would conduct unlimited war across borders with drones.


[01-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, okay, and what do you call what you did for 8 years?


[01-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he meant specifically that a future president would bomb *white* people outside the US on a whim.


[01-Mar-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, some Polish guy goes to South America, US hates him, kaboom.


[01-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] I think actually that this is the norm with minority firsts.


[01-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first blakk anything is the blakk guy who was sufficiently white and conservative to appease the racists long enuff to do the thing.


[01-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd only not be the case when the racists are being held bakk by a third party.


[01-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Hillary Clinton.


[01-Mar-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If not for an archaic nonsensical piece of the rules of our elections, she'd be our first female president, and also a little shit who would take tons of corporate money while pretending to care about the gays.


[01-Mar-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie kept running against her until the bitter end for the stated reason of wanting to push her further left. It failed, but at least it set him up for this time around where he has a real shot.


[01-Mar-20 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
```a jewish person said they'd prefer fascism because they'd die faster
and that under "communism", they'd either starve or be worked to death, under fascism, they'd be gassed or shot```


[01-Mar-20 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
I can get down with that


[01-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, don't tell them what the Nazis did before the war broke out in earnest.


[01-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
(hint: not gassing or shooting jews)


[01-Mar-20 05:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Funtimes medical experiments!


[01-Mar-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
No that was mostly Japan.


[01-Mar-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mengele sure had his fun, but it wasn't experimental.


[01-Mar-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They worked and starved Jews to death in camps.


[01-Mar-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders doesn't have a great shot at a majority right now


[01-Mar-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
and the process is almost transparently rigged


[01-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democratic establishment knows they are fucked without at least Bernie on a VP seat


[01-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which alone is concession to the democratic socialist wing being super strong


[01-Mar-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm actually curious to see how corvid-19 affects the standing as healthcare becomes a tangible, *urgent* focal point of the nationwide crisis


[01-Mar-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause, well, the buggos don't seem to be particularly threatened by lawsuits


[01-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Mengele basically didn't do anything of scientific value, it was all basically his sick sexual fantasies


[01-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow, people freeze if you put them in cold water


[01-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately would have been more valuable if you had an experiment running on top about Mengele


[01-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"How socially unacceptable must it be before someone gets no sexual gratification?"


[01-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social acceptability flies out the window with fetishes.


[01-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler really hated the whole neo-paganist part of Nazism


[01-Mar-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't want people worshipping Odin eventually, he wanted people worshipping the state


[01-Mar-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not comfortable if he became the new Jesus but accepting if it happened, basically.


[01-Mar-20 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] rip


[01-Mar-20 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
so trump 2020?


[01-Mar-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
No, I think trump will probably still lose


[01-Mar-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
and probably through no action of his own


[01-Mar-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
sadly


[01-Mar-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
stock market is down, economy is in recession, people are mad, tis the season for a democrat to take office


[01-Mar-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
too bad he couldn't lose for like, being a corrupt narcissistic piece of shit


[01-Mar-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of things he didn't really do


[01-Mar-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
people are fucking ignorant


[01-Mar-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly I think it was half third party voters and half pissed off Bernie voters sure Hillary would win that ultimately won for Trump in 2016


[01-Mar-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither will happen now


[01-Mar-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Literally all Clinton had to do was pick Bernie as her VP.


[01-Mar-20 06:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>clinton making a move where she couldn't take the credit for her victory all for herself


[01-Mar-20 06:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sill Its, _she was owed_


[01-Mar-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares, all she wanted was the title


[01-Mar-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Half desperate for the VP title now


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SHE


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
WAS


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OWED


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THE WORLD OWES RESPECT TO HILARY


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're talking to a guy who half thinks parliamentary systems should be in the US so


[01-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like if there's not a majority in the House or Senate


[01-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not be able to kick out the president?


[01-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and I read parts of her book, very small parts are about Kaine


[01-Mar-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would have been a super awkward presidency


[01-Mar-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aren't they all?


[01-Mar-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He basically got that spot because he was "owed" it after Obama passed him over for it


[01-Mar-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a ticket of "it's their turn"


[01-Mar-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
VA is blue because of NoVA and federal employees


[01-Mar-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has absolutely and totally eviscerated the federal civil service, people who are dedicated to their jobs in my experience


[01-Mar-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, corvid-19? 19 caws


[01-Mar-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[01-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Treascair#7785
Serious open question because it's been *absolutely fucking with me* for weeks, and I'm curious what folks think.  General rule in elections is 'vote for the person that most closely matches your interests'.  Yet, when folks do so, and the preferred candidate loses, they get screamed at with "fuck you, you're the reason [x] lost, you piece of shit!"

So... which is it? Do people vote their conscience and as their heart dictates, or do they hold their nose and vote for a candidate on either side that they abjectly don't agree with either way, thereby rendering the 'vote for person that matches interests' phrase moot? is it a mental disconnect or am I totally missing something?


[01-Mar-20 10:04 AM] Opponent#3498
both? But mostly the second, I imagine.


[01-Mar-20 10:11 AM] Opponent#3498
primaries is absolutely the second. You only really get two choices. Nomination is kind of the first, but in the end either the most 'popular' candidate gets the nomination, or the one the party wants, rendering most people's votes moot (perhaps just the latter, but I'm being generous).


[01-Mar-20 10:11 AM] Opponent#3498
from an outsider's perspective, the 'you're the reason X lost' argument is silly. Superdelegates exist.


[01-Mar-20 10:12 AM] Opponent#3498
and it's virtually impossible to get a candidate so popular they get an overwhelming majority.


[01-Mar-20 10:14 AM] Opponent#3498
so, ultimately, the only reason to vote in the first place is try and get 'your' party into power (at least this vote is the one that ultimately counts, sort of. If I'm being generous.).


[01-Mar-20 02:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the age of ideologically and not regionally based parties you're not going to see much in the way of clear victories.


[01-Mar-20 02:11 PM] ononim#8141
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[01-Mar-20 02:11 PM] ononim#8141
wow the mad lad did it


[01-Mar-20 02:11 PM] ononim#8141
and it is not demonetized yet


[01-Mar-20 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/FugaziTruther/status/1233604305753690113?s=19

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What is wrong with these people?
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[01-Mar-20 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like


[01-Mar-20 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Saying Mr Rogers was a manipulative predator


[01-Mar-20 02:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None of this fucking sticks


[01-Mar-20 02:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, they ended their sentence with a contraction, so I wouldn't listen to the psychopath


[01-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Crow#5457
the top one seems like satire to me


[01-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
the person set their name as "President Hillary Clinton's Dragon"


[01-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Crow#5457
and the bottom two seem like bots or russian trolls or whatever you wanna call them


[01-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a good way to fish for that, if nothing else.


[01-Mar-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/bodyvoid/status/1233972841609035776

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@modernistwitch As an LGBTQ person who was bullied as a kid, nah
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[01-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
lol, I found this as the top result when searching "As an LGBTQ person who was bullied as a kid" on google


[01-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
instead of the one that people are tweeting about


[01-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Burkmc/status/1233684579963285504

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President Hillary Clinton’s Dragon 🐉 (@Burkmc)
https://twitter.com/Burkmc/status/1233684579963285504
I was right to trust my instincts: Not only did he vote to empower the NRA, linked cervical cancer in women to lack of orgasms, wrote rape essays, said toddlers should run around naked, he voted to protect pedophiles as well! He’s a total creep: https://t.co/e7aJLxjKzr
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[01-Mar-20 02:46 PM] ononim#8141
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[01-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
nevermind, this account is not satire


[01-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
> I was right to trust my instincts: Not only did he vote to empower the NRA, linked cervical cancer in women to lack of orgasms, wrote rape essays, said toddlers should run around naked, he voted to protect pedophiles as well! He’s a total creep


[01-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Burkmc/status/1233688317650227202

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President Hillary Clinton’s Dragon 🐉 (@Burkmc)
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Bernie has no record of getting things done, as an establishment politician who’s been in Congress for 30 years,all he did was rename post offices, is ranked the least effective politician. He was anti immigration, never hired a person of color till he ran for potus. Its balo...
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[01-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
also calls bernie an "establishment politician"


[01-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
you have to be even more deluded than trump supporters to not recognize that bernie is not establishment


[01-Mar-20 02:48 PM] Crow#5457
even trump supporters generally agree that bernie is not establishment, even as they claim that bernie and the establishment hold the same beliefs


[01-Mar-20 02:48 PM] Crow#5457
it's just their belief that the establishment is mad at bernie for being an "outspoken socialist" instead of hiding it like the establishment does


[01-Mar-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
the big sad would be if accounts like this make a tangible impact


[01-Mar-20 02:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what happened last time around


[01-Mar-20 02:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the troll farms sought out accounts like this as ammo to use in their he-said-she-said egging on of various sides


[01-Mar-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
last time it failed.


[01-Mar-20 02:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, last time it was a *resounding* success


[01-Mar-20 02:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the GRU accomplished exactly what it set out to do


[01-Mar-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
well, Hillary won the popular vote despite that.


[01-Mar-20 02:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I highly encourage you to check out a summary of the senate intel committee report on the russian interference - a report the Senate majority themselves would very much like to sweep under the rug


[01-Mar-20 02:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it describes in detail the way the troll farms operated - what their goals were, what their M.O. was, and the measurable impact from the accounts they created (and, more importantly, the accounts that gave the trolls a signal boost)


[01-Mar-20 02:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The russians started out just trying to work their way into controversial circles, before they started any sort of misinformation campaign. Then, when they did attack, they attacked everyone - Hillary, Trump, Sanders, anyone at all in the race, seeking division. It wasn't long until that tactic changed: there was a known directive to continue punching down on all other candidates, but to work in *support* of Donald Trump.


[01-Mar-20 03:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whether he was involved or not is immaterial, the russians made that decision. What's important to note is that this went well beyond "a few facebook messages," and that the overall strategy was tailored to suit each platform. Everyone talks about the pro-Trump, pro-Sanders, and anti-Hillary stuff on facebook, but few people talk about the campaign on *Instagram* to discourage people from voting. Why? 'Cause a lot of urban democrats use Instagram


[01-Mar-20 03:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, it was everywhere. Even snapchat


[01-Mar-20 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
the all-powerful russians.


[01-Mar-20 03:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, they really weren't


[01-Mar-20 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
makes me wonder how we held up this long, reading stuff like this.


[01-Mar-20 03:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The vaaaaast majority of posts that people saw weren't even from the botted accounts


[01-Mar-20 03:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
rather, the bots would get seen by real people in the US, and those real people would turn around and, in a 24-hour period, either directly repost or write messages using the same phrases, resulting in a geometric increase in the number of such posts. And then, you know what the Russian bots did?


[01-Mar-20 03:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They took the messages those real people were saying on one side, and then slipped over to the other side, saying "LOOK WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS SAYING ABOUT US"


[01-Mar-20 03:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause they weren't bots, by and large, they were *trolls.* real people. Working nearly directly for the Russian government.


[01-Mar-20 03:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some platforms saw more botting than others, like Reddit


[01-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, then we're screwed.


[01-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
the all-mighty russians have decided.


[01-Mar-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
by 'we' here, I mean you, of course.


[01-Mar-20 03:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, and we've known this for a while


[01-Mar-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
time to post cat pics.


[01-Mar-20 03:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and by "we" I also mean me


[01-Mar-20 03:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I am one of the ones paying attention to reports like this and not dismissing them as a democratic hoax


[01-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
democrats would benefit the most from it being the hoax right now.


[01-Mar-20 03:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what? No


[01-Mar-20 03:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You gotta understand what the people who are throwing the word "hoax" around mean, and what they hope to gain from it


[01-Mar-20 03:09 PM] Opponent#3498
why not? It shows Trump as incompetent (in visceral emotional way, Red Scare vol 3.0). It smears Sanders as it's been circulated that the russians support him.


[01-Mar-20 03:09 PM] Opponent#3498
you wouldn't dream of them supporting Bloomberg, right? Or lord Buttchug.


[01-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Opponent#3498
people throwing the word 'hoax' around are hoping against hope the deep hole Trump has dug for them will magically disappear if they pray hard enough and masturbate to his picture.


[01-Mar-20 03:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What the Republicans are saying is, the Democrats made up everything about Russian interference, whole cloth. There was no Russian attack on our election. There was no collusion. The Mueller report was hogwash, a "nothingburger." Everything, from the impeachment to the Stone trial, has been the Democrats trying to frame Trump for stealing the election. And furthermore, the Democrats' goal? To make Trump's election in 2016 illegitimate


[01-Mar-20 03:11 PM] Opponent#3498
it's all they got left, after all.


[01-Mar-20 03:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's not digging a hole, you see; his reaction makes *perfect* sense to them if it's seen as a response to such an orchestrated deep state smear campaign


[01-Mar-20 03:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They will ignore all evidence to the contrary


[01-Mar-20 03:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because it's coming from the sources Trump has labeled as "fake news"


[01-Mar-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
the report _was_ a 'nothingburger'. Precious little materialised from it, so whatever the implications, in practice that wasn't enough for any noticeable legal action. Impeachment was loud and proud and achived nothing but giving Trump free pass forever. I mean I guess he could use some encouragement.


[01-Mar-20 03:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except it wasn't


[01-Mar-20 03:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr just really wants you to think it was


[01-Mar-20 03:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The report is *damning.*


[01-Mar-20 03:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But Barr made sure that we were convinced it wasn't before it ever saw the light of day, and gave direction to Mueller not to give an opinion on whether or not Congress should pass a guilty verdict


[01-Mar-20 03:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is the part pretty much everyone trips up on, because it really doesn't make any sense


[01-Mar-20 03:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mueller, in his report, believed his hands were tied in that he couldn't establish, **one way or the other,** whether or not the evidence he'd compiled constituted a crime


[01-Mar-20 03:16 PM] Opponent#3498
why would a guy making a report give his opinion? Guilty or not is reasonably binary, and the facts should speak for themselves.


[01-Mar-20 03:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, and if you read the executive summary of the report (which was written with the intention of being immediately released to the public, as it contains zero classified information), you'd see that Mueller believed that, legally, only Congress had the right to make that call. He believed he *couldn't,* he could only say whether or not the evidence exonerated Trump. And he *very specifically* said it did not.


[01-Mar-20 03:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is, he couldn't prove with the body of evidence that Trump was innocent


[01-Mar-20 03:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but Barr wrote a summary of the report and released that instead, one that painted a very different picture


[01-Mar-20 03:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a picture so different that, the day Barr's letter came out, Trump made 3 claims in a tweet, all of which were a 180 from the report itself. "No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!"


[01-Mar-20 03:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You may or may not recall that Mueller penned an angry letter to Barr over that. You may or may not also recall that Barr backtracked from calling the letter a "summary," as such a summary from the DOJ would be *illegal.*


[01-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
innocent until proven guilty. Trying to prove innocence is usually an impossible task.


[01-Mar-20 03:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Usually. But exoneration happens


[01-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
unless the typical rules don't apply to matters like these.


[01-Mar-20 03:23 PM] Opponent#3498
whatever Trump tweets is largely irrelevant. He's been tweeting 'read the transcript' for months while refusing to release it.


[01-Mar-20 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's where the idea of "burden of proof" comes from


[01-Mar-20 03:23 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's like w/e


[01-Mar-20 03:23 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the important bit.


[01-Mar-20 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EricQuachSpeaks/status/1233868195573854208

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[01-Mar-20 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
so do we blame capitalism as the cause of this?


[01-Mar-20 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
bread lines etc


[01-Mar-20 03:47 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, that can't be.


[01-Mar-20 03:47 PM] Opponent#3498
only socialism causes bread lines.


[01-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I don't think you can blame either in this instance.


[01-Mar-20 03:56 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Capitalism better prepares one for periods of isolation like this.


[01-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
You can’t really stock up while on a “ration”


[01-Mar-20 03:58 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Also, the fluctuation of utility for bread is better represented in capitalistic markets.


[01-Mar-20 03:59 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
I’ve never seen an argument or POV that claims socialism to be better suited for pre-epidemic situations.


[01-Mar-20 04:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, whatever our situation is, we do have frequent scenarios where shortages happen as a result of people being *afraid* of shortages. Like milk, bread, toilet paper, etc


[01-Mar-20 04:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So if you want an argument that socialism or "socialism" (ie. nordic model social democracy) is better suited for pre-epidemic situations...


[01-Mar-20 04:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...there are two ways about it. The first, and one that's a bit tongue-in-cheek, is that if you always have bread lines, you never have panicky runs on essential supplies


[01-Mar-20 04:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The second, and the argument I actually support in earnest, is that if you have social programs like universal healthcare and basic income, you don't get people skipping medical treatment because they can't afford it, and the logistics of getting a vaccine into the population's a lot easier if there is equal access (and the problem simply becomes one of supply chains).


[01-Mar-20 04:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, to me, the most terrifying thing about this is knowing that low-income workers in the public sector - the highest risk factor in community transmission behind hospital workers - are also exactly the same sort of people who *will* show up to work even if exhibiting flu-like symptoms because they can't afford not to, and they can't afford diagnosis


[01-Mar-20 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
@Yellow-Throated Warbler the bread lines that happened at the end of the soviet union and are wrongly attributed to its entire history were directly linked to the transition from socialism to capitalism though


[01-Mar-20 04:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1990-12-02-1990336114-story.html

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[01-Mar-20 04:14 PM] Crow#5457
old newspaper article from 1990 that was transcribed online


[01-Mar-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the bread lines thing was a breakdown of transportation infrastructure, not because they weren't producing enough food


[01-Mar-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
> True, a Soviet agricultural record is not always much to brag about. But the Soviet Union far outstrips the United States in production of several major food products: Potato production is more than three times as high as in the United States, the fish catch more than twice as large, the wheat crop nearly twice as big, and milk production two-thirds higher.


[01-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
100% reporting in south carolina, biden at 48.4% with 33 delegates, bernie at 19.9% with 11 delegates, tom steyer at 11.3% with 0 delegates, and rattigieg's at 8.2% with 0 delegates


[01-Mar-20 04:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, what happened to warren


[01-Mar-20 04:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
also 0?


[01-Mar-20 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't get enough votes to get any delegates


[01-Mar-20 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
warren's at fifth place with 7.1% of the vote


[01-Mar-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
overall declared democratic delegate count so far is bernie at 56, biden at 48, pete at 26, warren at 8, klobuchar at 7, and the rest have none


[01-Mar-20 05:31 PM] Crow#5457
I feel like bernie did better than anyone was expecting in south carolina


[01-Mar-20 05:47 PM] Primarina#3120
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[01-Mar-20 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
that was almost 3 years ago lol


[01-Mar-20 05:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[01-Mar-20 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], do you remember that tweet that had the comic that goes along the lines of "what my parents think bernie is saying", "what he's actually saying", and "what I want bernie to be saying" with the first and third panels being the same thing?


[01-Mar-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
or @BadgingBadger🦄🌈, not sure who posted it


[01-Mar-20 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
ugh, I've scrolled back through every twitter link posted in this channel over a month (chris matthews made the "executions in central park under bernie" claim february 8) and I can't find it


[01-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I remember the comic, but that's about it.


[01-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The what my parents think thing was earlier.


[01-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/pylWGGh.png

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Generation Gap
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[01-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's it


[01-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Posted on imgur 23 days ago, so February 7th.


[01-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You were one day off lol.


[01-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, the timing on it is hilarious.


[01-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right after the imgur thing, Chris Matthews basically said it on air.


[01-Mar-20 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
he said it on the 7th actually


[01-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
but the news cycle picked it up on the 8th


[01-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Late on the 7th


[01-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
the imgur post came first.


[01-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imgur post was like, early afternoon, debate was night, Chris Matthews was right after.


[01-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[01-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
I pinned the original link back on the 7th


[01-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/675437895011663892


[01-Mar-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/america-is-not-a-democracy/550931/

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How the United States lost the faith of its citizens—and what it can do to win them back
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[01-Mar-20 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
On coronavirus:


[01-Mar-20 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump's whole thing is whipping up his cult followers into a frenzy of anger and bloodlust. Tasking him with calming people down is like taking cocaine to battle insomnia


[01-Mar-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h0dkfattszj41.jpg

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[01-Mar-20 07:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-republican-donor-elliott-management-paul-singer-trump-a9366881.html

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[01-Mar-20 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just noticed the absolute sociopath in the tartarus thread, sheesh


[01-Mar-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
who, Subaru?


[01-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, there's him yeah, but also that anon D75B


[01-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> If you can't handle a $400 emergency then you suck at managing money and you need to get good.


[01-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like they could be trolling too


[01-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/us/boston-hate-crime-charges-women-speak-spanish/index.html

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[01-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/marie-osmond-im-not-leaving-any-money-to-my-children-in-will-235238458.html


[01-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
> “My husband and I decided that...I think you do a great disservice to your children to just hand them a fortune because you take away the one most important gift you can give your children, and that’s the ability to work,” she said.


[01-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[01-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
> The topic gave way to a friendly debate. “I disagree with that,” said co-host Sheryl Underwood. “I think that when you come from a family of money, you raise your children to value money and understand money and because they [were] born into the family, they should have a healthy respect for money.”


[01-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuuuuuck


[01-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
there's like 5 different layers of what the fuckery going on with this whole event


[01-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I'm in favour of abolishing inheritance entirely, but that's a shitty reason


[01-Mar-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon I had to unsub the thread because I was suffering from brainworms trying to deal with them


[01-Mar-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
As a friend of mine said, it's teaching Cavemen how to use fire when they don't believe in fire.


[01-Mar-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can show it to them, but they'll insist it doesn't exist.


[01-Mar-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some of them just have a complete lack of empathy and have never been in a bad situation


[01-Mar-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or if they were, they believe it was someone else's fault and they only succeeded due to their singular talents and drive and no other factors


[01-Mar-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
They're the kind of people you unionize against tbh. You don't involve them in the conversation because they probably have or think they have or aspire to hiring or firing powers.


[01-Mar-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or are cops.


[01-Mar-20 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/01/south-carolina-results-biden-black-vote-sanders-msnbc/

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Don’t Tell Cable Pundits That Bernie Sanders Is Leading Nationally ...
MSNBC pundits were so excited about Biden’s win in South Carolina that they wrote off Sanders’s national support among black and young people.
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[01-Mar-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/us/boston-hate-crime-charges-women-speak-spanish/index.html

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Two women in Boston were charged after police say they attacked a m...
A Boston mother and her daughter were speaking Spanish on their way home when authorities say two white women assaulted them because they thought they were making fun of them.
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[01-Mar-20 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
yeah TSP posted it a hour ago


[01-Mar-20 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This is America. Don't let them catch you speakin' español.


[01-Mar-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/1emznv0.jpg

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Threw this together for you guys
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[01-Mar-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[01-Mar-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
An alt right Twitter sounds like making an already toxic place officially considered toxic. Not sure what to make of it.


[01-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stone is simply a monarchist, not a Nazi.


[01-Mar-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would people flock away to other platforms afterwards.


[01-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's mainly people who try to cut down other people for not being pure enough


[01-Mar-20 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
No, he's definitely a nazi


[01-Mar-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/txaon3n99ed21.jpg

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[01-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Monarchists hated Jews too.


[01-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ST wanted Ol' Wilty Arm to win.


[01-Mar-20 10:07 PM] ononim#8141
yeah he's a natsoc


[01-Mar-20 10:07 PM] ononim#8141
there's like a lot of stright up sepcifically nazi shit, including in his previous comic


[01-Mar-20 10:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow sounds great, but too bad biden would simply take the nomination regardless w/ superdelegates


[01-Mar-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
he won't be close enough


[01-Mar-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders will get the most delegates by a very wide margin


[01-Mar-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
but probably not a majority


[01-Mar-20 10:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race

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2020 Presidential Race
As we inch closer to the 2020 election, we begin to see groups working on behalf of each of the most serious White House hopefuls – leadership PACs, super PACs, 501(c)(4) dark money outlets and more – crop up and start spending in support of their favored candidates.
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[01-Mar-20 10:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
both bernie and Trump have so many small under 200$ individual contributions (trump having about 40 million$ more from those then bernie)


[01-Mar-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
there was a report that trump's small donations were campaign finance violations


[01-Mar-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
let me see if I can find if


[01-Mar-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/businessman-tells-conservative-publication-he-helped-saudis-make-millions-in-illegal-donations-to-trump-campaign/

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Businessman tells conservative publication he helped Saudis make mi...
Andy Khawaja, a Lebanese-American businessman, is making some wild claims to the conservative Spectator publication that he helped Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates illegally funnel millions of dollars to President Donald Trump’s campaign in 2016. In an interview with ...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/trump-saudi-afp.jpg


[01-Mar-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
unsubstantiated rumor, apparently


[01-Mar-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but why would you brag about it...


[01-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you can say "I did this illegal shit and got away with it"


[01-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time any law enforcement finds the evidence, it'll be too late.


[01-Mar-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
that was a rhetorical question


[02-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg to drop out


[02-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html

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By Reid J. Epstein and Trip Gabriel
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/us/politics/pete-buttigieg-drops-out.html
Pete Buttigieg to Quit Democratic Presidential Race
The first openly gay major presidential candidate, Mr. Buttigieg rose to the primary’s top tier, but was unable to build a broad coalition of voters, and lost badly in South Carolina Saturday.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/26/us/politics/00buttigieg-out/00buttigieg-out-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Mar-20 12:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
orly


[02-Mar-20 12:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's see where his voters go then


[02-Mar-20 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
On one hand, he was biden jr... on the other hand, he was a fresh face


[02-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
>Epstein


[02-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
coincidence obviously, but that's a pretty ironic name to have as a journalist now


[02-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Buttigeig in on NBC right now saying he's still in?


[02-Mar-20 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait what


[02-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
I like how they're claiming pete won iowa in the second paragraph when the AP still hasn't declared a winner yet


[02-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-msnbc-live-stream-24-7-free/


[02-Mar-20 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When was this


[02-Mar-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reports from hours ago claim he wasn't dropping out


[02-Mar-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The dropping out piece news is from minutes ago


[02-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
it says "live 1 pm", but it's currently not 1 pm anywhere in the US


[02-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be a repeat


[02-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
the next show in line is at 3 pm too, it's 3:21 pm in california atm


[02-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
so it's delayed at least 30 minutes


[02-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
I can imagine them accidentally posting a pre-prepared article prematurely (that happened a couple times in 2016 iirc)


[02-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
but this doesn't seem like it, and those sorts of things usually happen around big events like elections, not randomly on a sunday


[02-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
on the down side, pete was splitting the vote from biden a lot


[02-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
which actually could be the real reason he's dropping out


[02-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, looks like a repeat of an earlier show, oh well


[02-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
maybe he got offered a nice cushy position in a biden government


[02-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
which tbh seems like the angle pete was going for


[02-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
to generate enough recognition to get picked for a cabinet position or somesuch, along with some votes for bargaining power


[02-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
not enough that he could win, but enough that he could basically hold a bernie majority hostage


[02-Mar-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or Bloomberg


[02-Mar-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The rat king endorsing Berg could still be a possibility


[02-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, bloomberg could just straight up pay off pete a hundred million on top of the cushy job

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[02-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
I think it's too early for pete to have enough delegates to hold a bernie majority hostage though


[02-Mar-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
there is always the slim chance that he might be going bernie


[02-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
but I highly doubt that


[02-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
when he was younger, he did say he looked up to bernie


[02-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
I can imagine a scenario in which he took a look at what he was doing, realized how shitty it was, and decided to bank on bernie


[02-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
it's a pretty low probability of happening, but it can happen


[02-Mar-20 12:33 AM] jlun2#8758
so is Pete dropping off good or bad for Bernie?


[02-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
at this stage, probably bad


[02-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
pete is good at splitting the moderate vote


[02-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing going for the bernie hypothesis is that it seems rather sudden for pete to be dropping out


[02-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
out of the blue, doesn't seem like a good strategic time to drop out


[02-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
if he was doing it selfishly, he would wait until after super tuesday


[02-Mar-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
buttguy out


[02-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
it would be good for bernie if pete was doing it to boost bernie, but probably bad if it's neutral or in favor of biden


[02-Mar-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
what would be good here is for warren to drop and endorse sanders


[02-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, what if pete endorses sanders


[02-Mar-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
he won't


[02-Mar-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the primary is now a race between the three 🅱️'s: 🅱️iden, 🅱️loom🅱️erg, 🅱️ernie


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
he said a sanders win would ensure 4 more years of trump


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
and a down ballot loss for democrats in congress


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'll say it again, but he did say he looked up to bernie when he was younger


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
and I did say it's a pretty low probability of it happening


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The best thing he can do is nothing


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially if he himself isn't sure who to butter up to yet


[02-Mar-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
he already did something


[02-Mar-20 12:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, I mean, *now*


[02-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
also, that stream is over 40 minutes delayed, still says it's on the 1 pm show


[02-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/us/university-california-santa-cruz-strike-grad-students/index.html

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University of California Santa Cruz fired 54 grad students for with...
Fifty-four teaching assistants at the University of California, Santa Cruz were fired after they refused to turn in final fall grades as part of an ongoing strike for higher wages.
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[02-Mar-20 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
> About 200 graduate students at the northern California campus starting withholding grades in December, demanding an increase in wages of $1,412 that would help them cover rent near the school. Earlier this month, the students started holding protests on campus and many stopped teaching, holding office hours and conducting research.
> 
> The strike, which is not authorized by the union that represents the graduate student employees, is in violation of the current bargaining agreement, the university said.


[02-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1233549854258925573

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Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders)
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1233549854258925573
This is disgraceful. All workers deserve the right to bargain and strike for better wages and benefits. To Janet Napolitano and @UCSC: stop this outrageous union busting and negotiate in good faith. https://t.co/oaQGTovOdW
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[02-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[02-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking what happened to the other 50%


[02-Mar-20 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Declined to comment?


[02-Mar-20 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unsure?


[02-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/purpletaffy1/status/1233553740533133314

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kagey (@purpletaffy1)
https://twitter.com/purpletaffy1/status/1233553740533133314
@fammi_ridere @BernieSanders @ucsc Not just any university. @ucsc motto is literally-
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[02-Mar-20 01:08 AM] ononim#8141
I heard what warrren droping out rn would hurt bernie more, rahtern than help him


[02-Mar-20 01:09 AM] ononim#8141
idk I am not that versed in Democrat internal politics


[02-Mar-20 01:09 AM] ononim#8141
hold on


[02-Mar-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think so


[02-Mar-20 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://afloweroutofstone.tumblr.com/post/611335984286679040/cocainesocialist-afloweroutofstone-its-not-a

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Sing a song of how they tried
https://afloweroutofstone.tumblr.com/post/611335984286679040/cocainesocialist-afloweroutofstone-its-not-a
Sing a song of how they tried
Warren drops out. 40% of her supporters go to Bernie, giving him a boost in the share of delegates allocated. However, 60% of her supporters go elsewhere, likely lifting other candidates above the 15%...
https://66.media.tumblr.com/19e4cadd7a82c3b523cc6151840c5372/b44a621f1a403510-ef/s512x512u_c1/7defa66e23d9d171c8faf20033030c9713033aa8.jpg


[02-Mar-20 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
and like


[02-Mar-20 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
this guy has pol science degree


[02-Mar-20 01:10 AM] ononim#8141
and afaik is actually a politican and works in DC


[02-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@ononim the most useful thing Warren does is agree with Bernie on the debate stage.


[02-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Super Tuesday is make-or-break for everyone, and there's no debates before it. It's the day after tomorrow.


[02-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg most likely dropped because he realized that superdelegates would hand it over to Biden over him, he had no shot.


[02-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
well at least unlike the impeachment drama, this shit won't last for months.


[02-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
if Bernie gets shafted two days from now, we can all relax and enjoy the show.


[02-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I did say that pete dropping right now will most likely hurt bernie


[02-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
which makes me think he might've been convinced to drop out by the establishment, or bought out by biden or bloomberg


[02-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
his entire platform _was_ to be a slave of the establishment, so, yeah.


[02-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
if he announces it today there's a very slim chance he's supporting bernie, but most likely was convinced to drop out, if he announces it monday, he was definitely convinced to drop out, if he announces it after super tuesday, he's been bought out


[02-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
why would a guy wearing a giant 'BUY ME' sign his entire life ever endorse Bernie?


[02-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently the news came out shortly after Pete had a meeting with Jimmy Carter


[02-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
but no, what I said I absolutely meant in a positive sense. I much prefer a horrible end to unending horror. Rip off the band-aid and relax.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Um, you don't understand American election "season"'s length, then.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The convention is when the nomination is finalized.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's July 13th.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
if Bernie gets the boot, everything afterwards is...


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, never mind, now I feel silly.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
134 days from now.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Okay, I stand corrected.


[02-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
that's just...


[02-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[02-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's meant to restrict politics to only the rich.


[02-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine not working for an entire year.


[02-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And constantly moving from state to state giving speeches with hired security etc.


[02-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You **need** to be a millionnaire to run for president.


[02-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much.


[02-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Bernie tried in 2016 before he was a millionnaire, but he didn't make it to the general election, if you'll recall.


[02-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty hilarious when people like Bloomberg say "hard work" will get you everything as they literally do no actual work for a whole year.


[02-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do no work for a year as a working-class person and you don't just end up broke


[02-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you end up unemployable because employers see you as a risk because no recent employment they can use as evidence of your worth as an asset.


[02-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, even in our fucked up country you kinda get over this process _quickly_. Well quicker, at least.


[02-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
what would those 134 days be spent on, theoretically, when 'the people' are voting now and on ST?


[02-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
on the nomination, that is.


[02-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
ST isn't the end, it's the beginning.


[02-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are primaries scattered after it all the way up to the convention.


[02-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a stupid, pointless waste of time, yes.


[02-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
My state votes in the primary in June.


[02-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, JUNE


[02-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We basically wait until it's all but decided to throw a few delegates onto the pile.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, this whole system's designed to benefit the rich.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
that sounds amazing.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge waste of time.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The debates shouldn't've started until May.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/akklo1/reddit_banning_people_for_upvoting_certain_posts/

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[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But no, they started in November.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOVEMBER.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Reddit banning people for upvoting certain posts is retarded


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
A YEAR before the general election.


[02-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And remember, things can swing 3 days before people vote.


[02-Mar-20 02:17 AM] ononim#8141

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[02-Mar-20 02:17 AM] ononim#8141
the prophet skull


[02-Mar-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
over time I get more and more convinced I am living in an extremely vivid dream


[02-Mar-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and not reality


[02-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
the only dream that matters is the one you wake up from. Until that moment, might as well treat it as the real deal.


[02-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485399-new-york-confirms-first-case-of-coronavirus

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New York confirms first case of coronavirus
New York on Sunday confirmed the state's first case of the new coronavirus as reports of the virus continue to crop up across the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_coronamask_nodateistock.jpg


[02-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
uh oh


[02-Mar-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
according to asian stocks the market crashed another few % over the weekend


[02-Mar-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
wonder where the bottom will hit


[02-Mar-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Mar-20 02:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hopefully, somewhere around the level of BDSM car enthusiasts


[02-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nikkei's going up tho


[02-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], join the club, I've been feeling like that for years


[02-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
it started around the time I was 20 too


[02-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
currently 27


[02-Mar-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
you have 8 years on me


[02-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think, therefore I am


[02-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
oof.


[02-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cdc-mistakenly-releases-san-antonio-patient-who-later-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cdc-mistakenly-releases-san-antonio-patient-who-later-tests-positive-for-coronavirus
CDC mistakenly releases San Antonio patient who later tests positiv...
The patient was part of the group that came back from Wuhan, China over two weeks ago via a State Department chartered flight. According to the CDC, the patient was asymptomatic and had met all of the CDC's criteria for release.
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[02-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So their criteria mean no symptoms = release...and the disease has a long incubatory phase.


[02-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Great.


[02-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's administration has just unleashed its own doom.


[02-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/health/coronavirus-washington-spread.html

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By Sheri Fink and Mike Baker
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/health/coronavirus-washington-spread.html
Coronavirus May Have Spread in U.S. for Weeks, Gene Sequencing Sugg...
Two cases detected weeks apart in Washington State had genetic links, suggesting that many more people in the area may be infected.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/01/us/politics/01virus-spread/01virus-spread-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Mar-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie they may have finally found their kryptonite


[02-Mar-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not like you can get a court order against a virus


[02-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is why I feel like everything's just a super vivid dream, the probabilities of things just don't make any sense, what're the odds that a rando virus comes along at the perfect possible time to wreck havoc on trump's re-election chances?


[02-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
this thing's likely going to peak around starting around april-may, which is close enough to the election for people to remember the terrible response from the federal government


[02-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'm still expecting something like a supervolcano erupting during bernie's term


[02-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
not even only that, the fact it started in the middle of nowhere, china


[02-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
and was the right combination of traits to make it to the US undetected


[02-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
and to spread like wildfire


[02-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
and being much more deadly than the average rando virus


[02-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
to the point that it would actually overload the US's meager healthcare system


[02-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the incubation period really is 3-5 weeks like some say, chances are that shit's everwhere


[02-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
and it only happened after trump is confident in his ability to skimp on providing emergency funds for stuff


[02-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
he's so confident his "just a hoax" bullshit will work that I'm willing to bet he'll end up having a heart attack when he hears that his popularity is dropping like a rock


[02-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/mayor-pete-buttigieg-drop-out-reason-speech-bernie-sanders-biden-warren-back-room-deal-a9367721.html

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Pete Buttigieg has dropped out — but was it because of a back-room ...
Theories range from the vaguely conspiratorial — the Bernie-hating DNC want to back a moderate, so told Klobuchar, Biden and Buttigieg that one of them had to drop out — to the slightly more likely
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/03/01/18/pete-buttigieg-south-carolina.jpg


[02-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
he's officially announced he's dropping now


[02-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
apparently that opinion piece writer thinks it's warren who made a backdoor deal with pete


[02-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
but warren barely has any support, throwing his lot in with her wouldn't make any sense at this stage


[02-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He dropped right after talking with Jimmy Carter


[02-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And he's clearly going to endorse Biden


[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I bet he feels glad it's over for him


[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
relieved, rather


[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESUhvhzpvdo

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NBC News
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Full Buttigieg: 'We Knew South Carolina Was Going To Be A Challengi...
In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, former Mayor Pete Buttigieg talks about where his presidential campaign goes after suffering a loss in South Carolina.» Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
» Watch more NBC video: http://bit.ly/MoreNBCNews

NBC...
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[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They probably promised him a DNC position if he dropped out


[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
this is the interview that he had earlier before announcing he was quitting


[02-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Relieved that he doesn't risk losing to Trump, let someone else take that heat and the shit leading to it


[02-Mar-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
if the market stays the way it is


[02-Mar-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and that's a big if


[02-Mar-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is almost a guaranteed loss


[02-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Asian markets are holding atm


[02-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1234301879766511616?s=19

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J.J. McCullough (@JJ_McCullough)
https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1234301879766511616?s=19
I think it’s kind of slimy for Bloomberg to post this picture the second Pete drops out. Even though this is an old photo it looks like an endorsement.
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[02-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg is short, he would be the second shortest president.


[02-Mar-20 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/01/mike-pence-defends-trump-jr-rush-limbaugh-coronavirus-comments/4923560002/

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Pence says Trump Jr. 'justified' to claim Democrats hope coronaviru...
Last week, Donald Trump Jr. said Democrats hope the coronavirus "kills millions of people so that they could end Donald Trump's streak of winning."
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[02-Mar-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't hope millions of people are going to die


[02-Mar-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
but I know with your budget cuts and lack of belief in science that tens of thousands could die


[02-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-law-mandating-vaccines-in-schools-takes-effect/a-52596233

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Germany: Law mandating vaccines in schools takes effect | DW | 01.0...
Measles vaccinations are now required to register in German schools. Parents can be fined thousands of euros if they violate the law.
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[02-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
☑


[02-Mar-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
It's time, Donald https://i.redd.it/yu9rs073o2k41.jpg

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[02-Mar-20 10:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:theres_always_a_tweet:


[02-Mar-20 12:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
First virus cases in New Delhi


[02-Mar-20 12:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1233725785283932160

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U.S. Surgeon General (@Surgeon_General)
https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1233725785283932160
Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!  

They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk! 
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[02-Mar-20 12:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice to know US healthcare providers are getting their equipment off the same suppliers as the general public...


[02-Mar-20 12:39 PM] Opponent#3498
it gets better, the capitalist market fails to react in time, with massive forewarning, to ramp up the production.


[02-Mar-20 12:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it's almost like lt's planned economy or something.


[02-Mar-20 12:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
3M must be making a killing though


[02-Mar-20 03:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Its hard to ramp up production if most of the factories are in the epicenter of the viral outbreak. Aka China


[02-Mar-20 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
well we're talking about US, they had forewarning before being hit.


[02-Mar-20 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
China, yeah that's not so simple.


[02-Mar-20 03:43 PM] Opponent#3498
but considering they have outbreaks of 'stuff' pretty much every year, you'd think they had more refined procedures in place.


[02-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Probably not. So much of our manufacturing went overseas and most of the western Economy is based around just in time management. Where products are produced only by an amount that meets demand and only when there is a demand. Even if we do have stockpiles of masks laying around almost every country is wanting them at the same time so it wouldn't surprise me if we ran out.


[02-Mar-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's less 'almost every country' wanting them, and more the spike in notoriously panicky domestic market that's producing a response like _that_.


[02-Mar-20 04:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamacare-supreme-court-california-house-of-representatives-texas/

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Supreme Court to hear challenge to Obamacare
The case challenging the Affordable Care Act will likely be heard by the court in its next term, which begins in October.
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[02-Mar-20 04:05 PM] Opponent#3498
a problem that's extremely easy to predict and counter, and the best solution they could come up with is a PSA along the lines of 'Could you pwetty pwease not? UwU'


[02-Mar-20 04:06 PM] illumnious#7938
UwU


[02-Mar-20 04:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
PSA's are not usually that effective. if antidrug psa's are anything to go by


[02-Mar-20 05:11 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not. Makes it look even more desperate that way.


[02-Mar-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
drug PSAs aren't effective because everyone knows someone who does drugs and they know that the PSA is full of shit


[02-Mar-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
whether that extends to other things, I don't know


[02-Mar-20 05:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-unprecedented-move-israelis-advised-to-avoid-all-travel-over-virus-fears/

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In unprecedented move, Israelis advised to avoid all travel abroad ...
Health Ministry warning sees 'high probability' pathogen has now spread worldwide and is no longer containable; Israelis returning from Italy ordered to 14-day quarantine
https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/02/AP_20057509920193-1024x640.jpg


[02-Mar-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-creates-section-dedicated-denaturalization-cases i havent been here for a few days, has this been posted?

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The Department of Justice Creates Section Dedicated to Denaturaliza...
The Department of Justice today announced the creation of a section dedicated to investigating and litigating revocation of naturalization. The Denaturalization Section will join the existing sections within the Civil Division’s Office of Immigration Litigation—the District Co...
https://www.justice.gov/sites/all/modules/features/doj_sharing/images/doj-seal-fb.jpg


[02-Mar-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ramping up production would increase supply and thus lower cost.


[02-Mar-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want the cost high, to make more money.


[02-Mar-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Production will be ramped up late on purpose.


[02-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/health/coronavirus-testing-california.html

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By Roni Caryn Rabin, Sheri Fink and Knvul Sheikh
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/health/coronavirus-testing-california.html
Coronavirus Diagnosis in California Highlights Testing Flaws
Doctors suspected infection with the virus, but the patient did not fit the federal criteria and was not tested for days.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/27/science/27VIRUS-TESTING/27VIRUS-TESTING-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Mar-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/cmdfwb4p09k41.png

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[02-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/onward-introduces-first-lgbtq-character-disney-pixar-history-170026105.html

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'Onward' introduces the first LGBTQ character in Disney animation h...
"It's a modern fantasy world and we want to represent the modern world," says director Dan Scanlon of the breakthrough character voiced by Lena Waithe.
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[02-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/weather/colorado-river-flow-dwindling-warming-temperatures-climate-change/index.html

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Climate change is drying up the Colorado River, putting millions at...
A new study shows that the Colorado River -- the most important river in the American West -- has seen its flow shrink by 20 percent compared to the last century from warming temperatures due to climate change.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190417162012-10-earth-beautiful-places-super-tease.jpg


[02-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/politics/sanders-bloomberg-socialist-president/index.html

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No, Bernie Sanders, most voters aren't comfortable with socialism
This is the moment for the ultimate question of the Bernie Sanders movement: is the United States ready for a socialist President?
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[02-Mar-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
yawn


[02-Mar-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
he's not even a socialist, he's just coopted the name


[02-Mar-20 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
he didn't even coopt the name, others did it for him xD


[02-Mar-20 07:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh Buttigieg committed "exit election server"


[02-Mar-20 07:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Bet byte's happy about that one


[02-Mar-20 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
🙂


[02-Mar-20 07:47 PM] jlun2#8758
does that make biden stronger or no effect


[02-Mar-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Klobuchar dropped


[02-Mar-20 07:49 PM] jlun2#8758
The centralists are ganging up together


[02-Mar-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/sen-amy-klobuchar-will-suspend-her-presidential-campaign-endorse-joe-biden.html

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Sen. Amy Klobuchar will suspend her presidential campaign, endorse ...
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[02-Mar-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
bam, gone


[02-Mar-20 07:52 PM] jlun2#8758
How much does this mess up with predictions in tuesday?


[02-Mar-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Mar-20 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/0oocCf1bFFQ?t=443

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BIONICLE: Legends of Metru Nui | All Makuta Scenes
To start the year of 2017 and Zaktanuary! - LOL, I had to... It's time to go back into the past once again and look at the epic villain who inspired and scared BIONICLE fans for all time: MAKUTA or as we all know him properly as Teridax.

This time, these are all the scenes of...
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[02-Mar-20 08:25 PM] ononim#8141
Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar drop out of Democratic presidential primary and endorse Joe Biden, March 2020


[02-Mar-20 09:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://apnews.com/9f6d1f6ea8866e2d82e41b9bf08e67a5

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AP Explains: Why Syria's M5 is Assad's highway to victory
BEIRUT (AP) — It is arguably one of the most coveted prizes in Syria’s civil war, and after eight years of fighting, Syrian President Bashar Assad has got it back. The Damascus-Aleppo...
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[02-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
dow jones is going back up temporarily because the US government and the bank of japan both pledged to release a stimulus package, but a bunch of forecasters are saying it's a "dead cat bounce"


[02-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 it means Klob can't win Minnesota.


[02-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which likely hands it to Bernie


[02-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
All other states will be unaffected, basically.


[02-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.newser.com/story/287464/this-might-be-the-worst-moment-in-syrias-9-year-war.html


[02-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/How-ISIS-operates-in-Iraqs-disputed-territories-618999

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How ISIS operates in Iraq’s disputed territories
Communal distrust, feud between Kurdistan and Baghdad create security vacuum
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[02-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how many mail-in ballots are gonna get trashed due to Buttigeig and Klobs dropping out


[02-Mar-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
they get counted still iirc


[02-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/24/venezuela-hungry-food-insecure-un-world-food-program

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One in three Venezuelans not getting enough to eat, UN finds
World Food Programme says 9.3m people are food insecure, with people struggling for minimum nutrition amid economic crisis
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[02-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
yes, they get counted


[02-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
they can still win delegates too I think


[02-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
maybe the US should stop boycotting venezuela then


[02-Mar-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/684145374121820199/0s7cqblpdak41_1.png

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[02-Mar-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden's chances of getting the nom are skyrocketing


[02-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yea


[02-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not what I see on 538


[02-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
just a higher chance of No One


[02-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think tomorrow that'll drop because they'll take into account Klob dropping and new polls with the reduced field.


[02-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tho it's an open question what happens in Super Tuesday with only the 4 options.


[02-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg and Warren will probably pikk up scraps from Bernie and Biden.


[02-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's just a question of how much.


[02-Mar-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Sanders absolutely needs a ST blowout and now I'm not so sure he can get one


[02-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He will in CA


[02-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The danger is if they both go in to the nomination with over 1400


[02-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, that's what I'm expecting.


[02-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has that ever happened?


[02-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[02-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's how in the current rules you get superdelegates stealing Bernie's win.


[02-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does the DNC realize how many Bernie to Trump voters there are


[02-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Bernie hits 1991 delegates then superdelegates don't come into play and Biden just outright loses.


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Bernie could reach like, 1700


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren brings 200 or so


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are 771 superdelegates


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's expected they'll vote as a bloc


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So what do you do when Bernie's under 100 from 1991


[02-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
2376 win it when superdelegates are added


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning, if you go in with 1605, superdelegates can award you the win.


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav any less, they can not.


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
if it's Bernie at 1605


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
and Biden at 1500


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie can win and Biden cannot.


[02-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates could vote Biden out of spite, which I think leads to a third ballot.


[02-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
early mail-in voting in california has bernie ahead by 7%


[02-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
but that was from a couple weeks ago


[02-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
He needs to be ahead by about a 15th overall, nationally.


[02-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a little more than 7%


[02-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
I think 26% of buttigieg voters had bernie as their second pick


[02-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
but 24% had biden as their second pick


[02-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
there's a dude in another server who says that the US deserves trump if bernie doesn't win the primary


[02-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is expected to win Minnesota now btw.


[02-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
This could be a blowout where Biden only gets Florida and a few other southern states.


[02-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, as far as ST


[02-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's expected to win Texas, that's pretty bad for Bernie


[02-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie creams Biden in northern states.


[02-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has a narrow lead in southern ones.


[02-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
gdi this better not be Hillary's win 2.0


[02-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Southern racist fukks going for the candidate with less of a moral bakkbone.


[02-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
(enuff that superdelegates weren't even needed)


[02-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South was a mistake.


[02-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Warren dropped today to endorse Bernie, then it would probably stunt Biden, but it's looking like she's gonna go all the way to the convention just to be an asshat.


[02-Mar-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
that may be helpful to sanders since warren voters generally say their second choice is not sanders


[02-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, Warren's base changed


[02-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
of course it did.


[02-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's now the "I wanted Biden but not quite this racist and also FEMINIZM MEANZ ELECT WYMINZ" candidate.


[02-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Previously that was Klob's base, and Warren was for a lot of people who agreed with Bernie but thought he was unelectable)


[02-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
apparently people are calling the reddit banning for upvoting certain content thing an attempt to influence the election


[02-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking No One is at a record 69% now in 538's forecast.


[02-Mar-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
warren abandoned everything that made her popular in the first place


[02-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/who-says-9-times-more-coronavirus-cases-outside-china-than-inside-in-last-24-hours.html

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WHO says new coronavirus cases outside China are 9 times higher tha...
"The epidemics in the Republic of Korea, Italy, Iran and Japan are our greatest concern," a WHO official said.
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[02-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Nice


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean not nice, cause it means superdelegates hand the win to Biden.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are digging their own grave now.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the sex number.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yes, you're right.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if it was just a Biden blowout, sure.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
But no, Bernie just proved he can win.


[02-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now they're going to very likely hav him hav the most votes and hand someone else the win.


[02-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be like, 2nd ballot still no majority, 3rd Biden majority.


[02-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People will be so so mad


[02-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
delegates flipping to Biden against the state votes.


[02-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
There will be chants of corruption accusations at the convention, like holy shit.


[02-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make Chicago 1968 look like a family dinner at Taco Bell


[02-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will be on air talking about how Bernie got screwed.


[02-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
2020 Democratic Convention Riots, etc.


[02-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give Bernie at least the VP spot or expect a loss.


[02-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gabbard VP


[02-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that sweet sweet fascist energy.


[02-Mar-20 11:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER3df-gU0AA6uVq?format=jpg&name=orig

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[02-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She'll flip parties next year anyway regardless of who wins


[02-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
She can say she's an independent cause she didn't go with the flow.


[02-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then show Trump how you really do death camps.


[02-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Biden is like "President Obama and I..." while president.


[02-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/los-angeles-district-attorney-s-husband-allegedly-pulled-gun-black-n1146976

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Los Angeles DA's husband pulled gun on Black Lives Matters proteste...
Jackie Lacey, L.A. County's first black district attorney, has been the target of regular protests over the office's handling of high-profile cases.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_10/3251551/200302-jackie-lacey-cs-1024a_d7a29dc0430747e4d832df089ec14f03.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[02-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said on suppressed minority "first"s.


[02-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
apparently protesters went to the LADA's house to protest her handling of some cases, her husband pulled a gun on them


[02-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's always the most non-minority-acting one.


[02-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Usually someone very, very okay with the suppression as long as they can get to be exempt from it.


[02-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
she's trying to get re-elected too


[02-Mar-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/democracy-for-america-bernie-sanders-endorsement-118679

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/democracy-for-america-bernie-sanders-endorsement-118679
Democracy for America endorses Bernie Sanders
The progressive group’s announcement is a blow to Elizabeth Warren.
https://static.politico.com/30/dc/42049b764a97a28a6a39e44edffa/200302-bernie-sanders-getty-773.jpg


[02-Mar-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
> DFA said Sanders received nearly 80 percent of the vote in a membership survey, with more than 38,000 votes cast over an 11-day period.


[02-Mar-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
how likely will waren endorse biden?


[02-Mar-20 11:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If she endorses Biden over Sanders it would go against what she was campaigning on.


[02-Mar-20 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://q13fox.com/2020/03/02/king-county-reports-14-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-including-5-deaths/

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Tyler Slauson
https://q13fox.com/2020/03/02/king-county-reports-14-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-including-5-deaths/
Six coronavirus deaths in Washington state, King County declares em...
King County announced an emergency declaration on Monday as the number of COVID-19 cases there rose to 14, including five deaths.

Snohomish County has four reported cases, including one death, according to officials.
https://tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/hypatia-h_be0e3f2f5b557c02ce7daf9bcc112208-h_e2f4df6c025f8efe75a1fa25b82b5166.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=1200


[02-Mar-20 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
6 deaths in washington state


[02-Mar-20 11:56 PM] illumnious#7938
SIX


[02-Mar-20 11:57 PM] illumnious#7938
damm


[02-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
it was two deaths 10 hours ago


[02-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
and when that article was first published (2 hours ago), it was 5 deaths


[02-Mar-20 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
gee


[03-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/madison-linsalata-miss-staten-island-comes-out-bisexual-banned-st-patricks-day-parade/

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Miss Staten Island comes out as bisexual, is banned from St. Patric...
Madison L'Insalata had to watch from the sidelines of the New York City borough's St. Patrick's Day parade, but still wore her rainbow scarf and heart sticker.
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2020/03/02/6a1ba4fd-2d14-4344-9eee-cfef8bfc07cf/thumbnail/1200x630/32a96f472b4b259c828436b8906f7f07/miss-staten-island-st-patricks-day-parade.png

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[03-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-greece-turkey/syrian-migrant-dies-on-border-in-turkey-after-greek-intervention-sources-idUSKBN20P1DH

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Syrian migrant dies on border in Turkey after Greek intervention: T...
A Syrian migrant seeking to cross from Turkey into Greece died from injuries on ...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources_v2/images/rcom-default.png


[03-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
apparently greece is shooting syrian refugees on the turkish border now


[03-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
greece is claiming it's fake news


[03-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
good to know that greece is trump now


[03-Mar-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Trumpism is a disease


[03-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
apparently they don't know how the person who died was injured, so it could've been something like getting hit in the head by a canister of tear gas too


[03-Mar-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently Biden won big in South Carolina


[03-Mar-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Albeit these successes may not translate into Super Tuesday


[03-Mar-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We'll see


[03-Mar-20 12:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> Albeit these successes may not translate into Super Tuesday
Boomers be like :glowing_eyes:  time to ruin those bernie supporters.


[03-Mar-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently 75% of all SC democrats who voted yesterday were over 45 years of age


[03-Mar-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So that explains it


[03-Mar-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's not like Sanders can consistently win in all possible states


[03-Mar-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Each of them has its own peculiarities


[03-Mar-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
Yes. But boomers can make it so that Biden can have enough to get super delegates
and they vote a lot more than young people


[03-Mar-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We'll see, it seems younger people are coming out to vote much more than before


[03-Mar-20 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/premium_thot/status/1234557414831218690

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Mr Brain's Porked Faggots (@premium_thot)
https://twitter.com/premium_thot/status/1234557414831218690
Think about the political lifetime of a black boomer. The first election you remember is the leftmost dem candidate losing 48 states. All the radical non-electoral activists kept ending up dead or in jail. White ethnics started leaving the dems and never came back.
Twitter


[03-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 When I used a similar argument I'm told to get over it and adapt or die. :ponythinking:


[03-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/9IPfuGW.jpg

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Who knew?
https://i.imgur.com/9IPfuGW.jpg


[03-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/public-enemy-flavor-flav-bernie-sanders-960272/

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Daniel Kreps
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/public-enemy-flavor-flav-bernie-sanders-960272/
Public Enemy Fire Flavor Flav After Bernie Sanders Rally Spat
“Public Enemy and Public Enemy Radio will be moving forward without Flavor Flav,” group says. “We thank him for his years of service and wish him well”
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/9055131u.jpg


[03-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
wow


[03-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
so some dude named flavor flav sent a C&D letter to bernie's campaign for using the public enemy radio logo, but he doesn't even own the trademark


[03-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
so public enemy fired him


[03-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
rekt


[03-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
he's apparently going to sue public enemy claiming they can't fire him because he's a partner, not an employee


[03-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[03-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```there's a dude in another server who says that the US deserves trump if bernie doesn't win the primary```


[03-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
US might, but the world doesn't.


[03-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Midknight#9798
nobody deserves trump except the fools that vote for him


[03-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chris-matthews-announces-retirement-mutually-parts-ways-msnbc-n1147536

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Chris Matthews announces retirement, mutually parts ways with MSNBC
Matthews was due to retire in the near future with the events of the past week playing a factor in the timing of the move, an MSNBC spokesperson said.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_10/3191991/200117-chris-matthews-ew-236p_1c5125ba13fe7cdaab0effa60488ed7d.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[03-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
oof


[03-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Midknight#9798
I prefer Lawrence O'Donnel anyway


[03-Mar-20 01:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I watched that video about the St.Patricks day parade. 
US flags, bagpipes and kilts American sports cars? What the fuck is going on over there?

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[03-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cheep beer


[03-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/texas-polling-sites-closures-voting

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Texas closes hundreds of polling sites, making it harder for minori...
Guardian analysis finds that places where black and Latino population is growing by the largest numbers experienced the majority of closures and could benefit Republicans
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[03-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden and Sanders now basically within margin of error for betting odds of nom


[03-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
> Last year, Texas led the US south in an unenviable statistic: closing down the most polling stations, making it more difficult for people to vote and arguably benefiting Republicans.


[03-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
> On a local level, the changes can be stark. McLennan county, home to Waco, Texas, closed 44% of its polling places from 2012 to 2018, despite the fact that its population grew by more than 15,000 people during the same time period, with more than two-thirds of that growth coming from Black and Latinx residents.


[03-Mar-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
About to watch Pete suck Joe's dick live on stage


[03-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/02/pete-buttigieg-president-white-house-gay-lgbtq

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Pete Buttigieg might be the most progressive candidate ever to run ...
The former mayor of South Bend will not reach the White House – this time. His campaign was historic for all America
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[03-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
... is this a joke?


[03-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
oh, they're saying that because pete was gay he was a "progressive" candidate


[03-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HRMM, YOU'RE SOUNDING PRETTY HOMOPHOBIC RN


[03-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
even though is policies are not even close to progressive


[03-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
#withhim


[03-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Beto also endorsing Biden, that'll fuck over texas


[03-Mar-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It seems the centrists are coalescing around Joe


[03-Mar-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sanders seems up to a big challenge tomorrow


[03-Mar-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/tat81fg86bk41.jpg

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[03-Mar-20 02:16 AM] jlun2#8758
how likely is it going to be a disappointing biden nom now?


[03-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More likely than before


[03-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But alas


[03-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We'll see


[03-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie likely has California in the bag, so even if he loses Texas, he won't be out of the race


[03-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Midknight#9798
Well, Trump did tell his followers to vote for bernie in the primary


[03-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Midknight#9798
So that might have some effect in places 😛


[03-Mar-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie's up to a challenge tomorrow


[03-Mar-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But California and Texas are way more populous than SC


[03-Mar-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's likely Biden's win in SC may have been a fluke


[03-Mar-20 02:23 AM] ononim#8141
Nuh


[03-Mar-20 02:24 AM] ononim#8141
he banked on it


[03-Mar-20 02:24 AM] ononim#8141
iirc


[03-Mar-20 02:24 AM] ononim#8141
he campaigned there from the beginning


[03-Mar-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah he did spend a lot of effort in SC


[03-Mar-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But part of that success might be attributable to the high number of old people in the state


[03-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
there seems to be an abnormal number of old people in south carolina


[03-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/06/24/south-carolina-residents-growing-older-and-there-challenges/1435404001/

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There's a growing population of older people across SC, and there a...
“The demographic changes looming on the horizon are a certain reality, and they will challenge our long-term care system in significant ways."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/03/25/PAIM/ee7025c8-7749-47fa-9398-78dde8195ac0-0325_IEA_Brain_Health_Club_12.JPG?crop=2599,1472,x0,y48&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[03-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
huh, there's even an article about it


[03-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
from last year, but still


[03-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Raptorshy#6268
South carolina is a terrible place with terrible people, but downtown Greenville is surprisingly not bad at all


[03-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There's a great gelato place I can't remember the name of


[03-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Just sayin


[03-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624014259751485441/683951294268047362/kids_my_age_are_into.mp4

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[03-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hey don't diss gelato


[03-Mar-20 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318129883421081600/684212350319853593/e8b.png

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[03-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's some good stuff


[03-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
what's gelato


[03-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
also who dissed gelato


[03-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
apparently some kind of italian ice cream


[03-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's like ice cream but it's really creamy and rich


[03-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And stays solid better at room temperature, though it'll still melt


[03-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Real gelato anyways


[03-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You know a good gelato place when they serve it by cutting with a spatula rather than using an ice cream scoop


[03-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss making my own


[03-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
More than anything I miss overdoing it on the vanilla extract


[03-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Mmmm I love vanilla extract


[03-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I abuse the crap out of that when I need it


[03-Mar-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, the stuff is vanillin dissolved in a weak solution in alcohol


[03-Mar-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and you know you love to get drunk


[03-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Vanillin dissolved in a weak solution of alcohol" is Buttigieg at a party


[03-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"weak solution"


[03-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The stuff I used to use was like 30%


[03-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the time I made a rum cake and the recipe had way too much rum


[03-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
are you talking about %wt vanillin or %wt alcohol


[03-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
alcohol


[03-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I was talking about the vanillin


[03-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/485602-virus-expert-as-much-as-70-percent-of-worlds

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Virus expert: As much as 70 percent of world's population could get...
A Harvard University epidemiologist says that as much as 70 percent of the world’s population could get the coronavirus.
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[03-Mar-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the best case for sanders right now would be if biden suddenly died


[03-Mar-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
things are not looking good


[03-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not very likely.


[03-Mar-20 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe, Butt and Klob were unlikely to get many delegates this Tuesday so I dunno how much it will actually cause Biden to gain and Bernie to lose


[03-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm also not certain that Warren and Bernie are splitting progressives, I think Warren appeals more to wealthy white women and they'd goto Biden if she dropped out so if anything she might be helping Bernie


[03-Mar-20 04:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm still remembering that, in Real People Numbers, it wasn't that long ago that Sanders was polling higher than the "moderate" candidates put together


[03-Mar-20 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Something else to consider is that immediately after Biden made a strong showing in SC, all of a sudden Burisma started making headlines again in washington


[03-Mar-20 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *really* think Trump is more afraid of Biden than he is of Sanders, which is...I dunno


[03-Mar-20 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
His mind seems to be trapped in the fallout of 2016


[03-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Honahue#0656
hoping for a Bernie blowout tomorrow, probably won't get results for a week though cause no one wants to admit Bernie wins


[03-Mar-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we'll see what happens with Austin etc


[03-Mar-20 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I suspect Bernie's gonna take Texas and California


[03-Mar-20 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's kinda up in the air on Texas


[03-Mar-20 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
some people are saying Bernie, other people are saying Biden guaranteed


[03-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[03-Mar-20 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Mar-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[03-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok nintealist


[03-Mar-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mom: We have socialism at home...


[03-Mar-20 12:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-indonesia/indonesia-confirms-two-coronavirus-cases-idUSKBN20P0FZ

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Indonesia confirms first cases of coronavirus, link to Japanese vis...
Two Indonesians have tested positive for coronavirus after coming into contact w...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200302&t=2&i=1497690112&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG210ES


[03-Mar-20 12:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
O lawd it comin


[03-Mar-20 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
the gifts must spread.


[03-Mar-20 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
today's the big day


[03-Mar-20 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
super tuesday


[03-Mar-20 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
538 has dropped sanders to only an 8% chance


[03-Mar-20 02:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking hell


[03-Mar-20 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I feel like my future is being ripped out from under me


[03-Mar-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be too good to be true anyway


[03-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is it time to rebel?


[03-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ain't got no money to rebel


[03-Mar-20 02:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
sticks and stones are free


[03-Mar-20 02:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and gasoline isnt that expensive


[03-Mar-20 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Mar-20 03:28 PM] Opponent#3498
perception points are everything.


[03-Mar-20 03:54 PM] ononim#8141

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[03-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
what's the catch?


[03-Mar-20 03:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Are thoughts and prayers not enough?


[03-Mar-20 03:57 PM] ononim#8141
@Opponent ||nothing, there's no catch in liking hard-working hero Bashar al-Assad and his family||


[03-Mar-20 03:57 PM] ononim#8141
:twismug:


[03-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
ah. I knew something was familiar.


[03-Mar-20 04:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Mar-20 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-administration-cut-funding-poorest-schools-a9371201.html

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Money for services like anti-bullying programmes and English language lessons will now be harder to obtain
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[03-Mar-20 05:27 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so is there gonna be any kind of treatment for corona or are we all just gonna die


[03-Mar-20 05:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
28 Day Incubation Club


[03-Mar-20 05:28 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Id rather be watching porn in my house then be in an incubation chamber


[03-Mar-20 05:29 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im seeing these things on the news like "america is testing corona virus treament" or something like that and Im just kind of like , why arn't we hearing more about it


[03-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[03-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Incubation time is how long it takes for the virus to go from being inside you to showing symptoms


[03-Mar-20 05:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Quarantines are generally just "stay at home" unless you test positive


[03-Mar-20 05:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
^


[03-Mar-20 05:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And no, there is no treatment or cure


[03-Mar-20 05:36 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
thought so


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I guess they were just saying so , so that way no one would be afraid


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, there's treatment for some of the symptoms if they get really bad


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like jamming a tube down your throat to pump air


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
well my imune system is really bad


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so If I get I could die


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
not only that I have other health shit on the side


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I can't risk getting this


[03-Mar-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
=\


[03-Mar-20 05:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg saying he's relying on a contested convention


[03-Mar-20 05:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
but at the same time gonna move to uk this may


[03-Mar-20 05:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
so its like hhh


[03-Mar-20 05:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
I mean england


[03-Mar-20 05:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
cuz brexit lol


[03-Mar-20 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/tferrerm/status/1234762441394982912

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La policía investiga a una iglesia evangélica en Porto Alegre por un culto en el que se ofreció una "unción con óleo consagrado" para desatar "el poder de Dios contra el coronavirus" https://t.co/SBgti3gATe
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Twitter


[03-Mar-20 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dear lord, this is like in the movies where people go try to hug the zombies in a moshpit to cure them


[03-Mar-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
sorta-translated: an evangelical church in Brazil is calling for its followers to go to a massive... mass and get immunized together with the power of faith


[03-Mar-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the sort of mass gathering someone sick will definitely try to attend to cure themselves


[03-Mar-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And infect a few hundred others...


[03-Mar-20 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man Bernie's odds _crashed_


[03-Mar-20 05:46 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[03-Mar-20 05:46 PM] jlun2#8758
no free healthcare this generation I guess


[03-Mar-20 05:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess we'll see how it turns out tonight


[03-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I have enough booze to cover me one way or the other


[03-Mar-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm thinking 538 may have jumped the gun a little bit


[03-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their model is incredibly reactive.


[03-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you go to the page where you can set outcomes to see the results of remaining simulations following it, a Biden win in a state he's favored in with like a 10 point margin pushes him massively.


[03-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe Bernie shouldn't have made that comment about who gets the most delegates


[03-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[03-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, if Bernie comes in second on delegates, there's no way for him to win, ever.


[03-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The VAST MAJORITY of delegates hate Bernie with a passion and would rather hav Bloomberg, @Itsthinking


[03-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Push that deep down into your head.


[03-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The delegates themselves are people like Bloomberg and Biden.


[03-Mar-20 06:34 PM] jlun2#8758
I guess no way to split the superdelegates then? rip


[03-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's only chance is to either win the delegates who are forced to vote with their state results outright, or to make it so superdelegates can't giv Biden the win without an utter bloodbath after Biden comes in a distant 2nd.


[03-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know, I was saying now Bernie will be second and look bad if he says "wait, use the process"


[03-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He will not look bad.


[03-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait


[03-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[03-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
ITS


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie would NEVER say "wait, use the process"


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
wtf is wrong with you?


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah he wouldn't, he'd concede


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But do realize


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden saying "wait, use the process" hurts Biden


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
anyone saying it hurts them


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
people do not want to hear "well the superdelegates will decide for you if..."


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do NOT.


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ever.


[03-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only people who like superdelegates are DNC elite.


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone relying on them is hurt by talking about doing so.


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans will hammer Biden for this shit, idk why they're being given this ammo


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes you look scummy and unelectable.


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because Its


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's be real here for a moment


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is a liberal


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
the DNC is not.


[03-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is not.


[03-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is Bloomberg but with a few asterisks attached.


[03-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic Party establishment is the Republican Party establishment with some different dressing.


[03-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The change in what it does is from the voters electing further left candidates.


[03-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the party could choose its own people entirely, Bloomberg would be in charge.


[03-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would be a senator.


[03-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The rich do not want an actually liberal Democratic party.


[03-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are forced to accept one.


[03-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The question is how much they can stop it.


[03-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And for how long.


[03-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you think the DNC wants equal rights, fair pay, etc., you're an idiot.


[03-Mar-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also the DNC is really bad at strategy in general, @Itsthinking


[03-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[03-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They ignored local level politics for decades


[03-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rode everything on Congress and presidency


[03-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Local level is less cost efficient.


[03-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich idiots.


[03-Mar-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party will survive because Bernie took a torch to its insides and wore its shell around him


[03-Mar-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will not survive because it's a good institution or because it played the game well; it isn't and didn't.


[03-Mar-20 06:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that's gonna happen whether he wins or loses at this point unless he suddenly drops dead.


[03-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he wins, he gets massive power over the party by his position. If he loses, the party gets hammered around where he is instead.


[03-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either way, Bernie's goal to reforge the party in his image is advanced.


[03-Mar-20 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
#AOC2024


[03-Mar-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
The Republican party survived the past few years by casting out everyone who doesn't literally drop to their knees to lick Trump's boots


[03-Mar-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
But the Democratic party won't survive the next few years because they represent people who will in general not passively submit to an authoritarian leader like that


[03-Mar-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will survive.


[03-Mar-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
No matter what happens, it has the inertia.


[03-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blow away half of it, the remaining half is a huge structure someone can use.


[03-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party is in much more danger of collapse.


[03-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has been hollowed out.


[03-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump casts his chips in the wrong places and destroys anyone that doesn't follow suit.


[03-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you implement things like IRV, Republicans just stop being able to win at all.


[03-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It could end up the party of only certain states, with no ground game across most of the north and coasts.


[03-Mar-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
If Sanders does not get the nomination, zoomers will feel mostly alienated and disregarded by the Democratic party


[03-Mar-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
will they still vote blue? probably


[03-Mar-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but I see it likely that the DSA could rise to prominence as being more than just a faction of Democrats


[03-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party operates by assimilation.


[03-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's very foolish to think a splinter group could become its own party in these conditions.


[03-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The anti-third-party laws must be killed first.


[03-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
the voting system has to do more to kill "strategic voting"


[03-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ballot access first.


[03-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Easier ballot access, then saner voting systems, then reduced or no primaries, then different handling of things in office.


[03-Mar-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
politico left filler text on their results reporting page

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[03-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill reported on the Arkansas races despite them all being uncontested


[03-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why even bother


[03-Mar-20 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://politics.theonion.com/biden-frantically-hitting-up-cabinet-members-for-clean-1819575850

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Biden Frantically Hitting Up Cabinet Members For Clean Piss
WASHINGTON—A cabinet meeting in the White House’s West Wing was reportedly interrupted early Thursday morning when an agitated Vice President Joe Biden suddenly barged in, asking if anyone could “hook [him] up with a Dixie cup” of their urine. “C’mon, you gotta help me get som...
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[03-Mar-20 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/t6brgkx0rdk41.jpg Anglos were the original incels

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[03-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/business/barbara-cocoran-email-hack-money-returned/index.html

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'Shark Tank' judge Barbara Corcoran gets her $400,000 back from sca...
"Shark Tank" judge Barbara Corcoran is "thrilled" about getting back nearly $400,000 after it was stolen in an elaborate email scam.
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[03-Mar-20 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
k


[03-Mar-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
this sounds like a humblebrag tbh


[03-Mar-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
that she could afford to write off $400k without any trouble


[03-Mar-20 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/business/stock-market-today.html

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U.S. Stocks Whipsaw After the Fed Cuts Rates: Live Markets Updates
Central bankers and political leaders of the United States and other economic powers on Tuesday expressed their resolve to combat economic damage from the coronavirus.
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[03-Mar-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
it seems the rate cut actually contributed to the stock market drop


[03-Mar-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
which is the opposite of what it normally does


[03-Mar-20 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like when you go visit your doctor to tell him you're feeling better and he looks at you with a serious expression and says he's upping your dossage


[03-Mar-20 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/dow-futures-rise-about-150-points-in-early-trading-extending-mondays-huge-comeback-rally.html

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Dow drops 600 points after the Fed cuts rates, giving back nearly h...
The move follows the Dow's biggest percentage gain since March 2009 and largest-ever point surge.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106422355-1583253616310nyse2.jpg?v=1583253699


[03-Mar-20 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
> “It’s great that the Federal Reserve recognizes that there’s going to be weakness, but it makes me feel, wow, the weakness must be much more than I thought,” CNBC’s Jim Cramer said on “Squawk on the Street” right after the sudden cut. “I’m now nervous. I’m more nervous than I was before.”


[03-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
someone worded it succinctly: the feds doing an emergency rate cut because of coronavirus scares the market more than trump pressuring the feds to cut the rates to make his economy look superficially better than it actually is


[03-Mar-20 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://apnews.com/353c327f64f94fe5dd81b5e15eee081f

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Putin's new amendments revere God, ban same sex marriages
MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday submitted a slew of new proposed amendments to the country's Constitution that include a mention of God and describe marriage as a...
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[03-Mar-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
```Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday submitted a slew of new proposed amendments to the country’s Constitution that include a mention of God and describe marriage as a heterosexual union.
Putin first proposed amending the constitution in January’s state-of-the-nation speech, saying it is necessary to broaden the powers of parliament and bolster democracy. Kremlin foes have described the proposed changes as part of Putin’s efforts to remain in charge after his current six-year term ends in 2024.
...
Lawmakers say they include an article that points to a millennium-long Russian history and pledges homage to “ancestors who bequeathed to us their ideals and a belief in God.”
The amendment follows a proposal by the Russian Orthodox Church to add a reference to God to the Constitution.
Another amendment describes marriage as a “union of a man and a woman,” a wording in sync with Putin’s long-stated opposition to same-sex marriages.
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Another proposal underlines a special status of Russians as a “state-forming” ethnic group while pledging to protect the nation’s other ethnic groups.```


[03-Mar-20 08:29 PM] jlun2#8758
So when is Putin going to crown himself King?


[03-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Wasn't it Czar in Russian? :p


[03-Mar-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
Also I hope this **doesn't **seriously screw over the russian artists


[03-Mar-20 08:33 PM] ononim#8141
Excuse me?..


[03-Mar-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim oops


[03-Mar-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
doesn't sorry


[03-Mar-20 08:35 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Religion being used to justify your political instance? *when has this ever happened*


[03-Mar-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
i messed up dont ban me sorry @ononim  @Fleety von Rainy'


[03-Mar-20 08:36 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Oh you're fine, we all do typos haha


[03-Mar-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We all do typos, _once_


[03-Mar-20 08:41 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:lyrasweating:


[03-Mar-20 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
<The FSB has joined the game>


[03-Mar-20 08:50 PM] jlun2#8758
Do Russians use VPNs to mask their porn activity, or just browse without one casually?


[03-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Many use VPNs, yes


[03-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Particularly free shitty ones they share with random shitposters leading to loads of russians getting IP ban messages everywhere and demanding to know why they personally were banned while using a connection shared with thousands


[03-Mar-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[03-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy, it's a "libertarian" meme


[03-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
lynchertarian.


[03-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
check out that fascistic logo down in the lower right corner (no, I don't mean the ifunny watermark)


[03-Mar-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought that was some generic furry watermark


[03-Mar-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
then again I see animal watermarks at such due to FA so idk


[03-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, that's the USMC symbol


[03-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle,_Globe,_and_Anchor

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Eagle, Globe, and Anchor
The Eagle, Globe, and Anchor is the official emblem and insignia of the United States Marine Corps. It is commonly referred to as an EGA The current emblem traces its roots in the designs and ornaments of the early Continental Marines as well as the United Kingdom's Royal Mari...
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[03-Mar-20 09:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/2/21161346/hand-sanitizer-diy-how-to-hand-wash-cdc-alcohol-virus-illness

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How to make your own hand sanitizer
If you can’t find a hand sanitizer at your local drugstore, you can make your own.
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[03-Mar-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
ty


[03-Mar-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/world/coronavirus-news.html

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Coronavirus Updates: 9 Dead in Seattle Area. In N.Y., Hospital Staf...
Some of the deaths in Washington State occurred before a crisis began publicly unfolding, suggesting the virus had been spreading earlier than previously understood. Abroad, cases and deaths in Italy and Iran rose.
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[03-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
heh, I figured you people would hate Cooper.


[03-Mar-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
accurate.


[03-Mar-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/treasury-yields-rise-after-stimulus-hopes-lift-risk-on-sentiment.html

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10-year Treasury yield falls below 1% for the first time after Fed ...
The 10-year Treasury yield broke below 1% for the first time ever in the wake of an emergency rate cut by the Federal Reserve to combat the economic effects of the spreading coronavirus.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103308424-GettyImages-504808810a.jpg?v=1565812989


[03-Mar-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
@WiFiWitch pee

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[03-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Opponent#3498
is that Frist? :D


[03-Mar-20 11:10 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
>thinking of frist first for pee and not me


[03-Mar-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
peepee


[03-Mar-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pee is indeed political


[03-Mar-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We should abolish pee


[03-Mar-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
also, til opponent likes pee


[03-Mar-20 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Tim_mahoneyy/status/1124723907473346560?s=19

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Tim Mahoney (@Tim_mahoneyy)
https://twitter.com/Tim_mahoneyy/status/1124723907473346560?s=19
remember when "dinosaurs" had that marxist cop show? https://t.co/rMV5gllCRZ
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[03-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://66.media.tumblr.com/5222129bfab695f4a7dd2f66692796cd/02d8edc1b3c05cd2-46/s2048x3072/1f74a9c9ac3780cc3cae806b6856bb8ec0412e88.jpg

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[03-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
'likes' is a strong word, I'm used to it.


[03-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
May Boomers burn.


[03-Mar-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/us/politics/esper-trump-military-coronavirus.html

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By Eric Schmitt and Helene Cooper
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/us/politics/esper-trump-military-coronavirus.html
Defense Secretary Warns Commanders Not to Surprise Trump on Coronav...
Mark T. Esper directed overseas officers not to run afoul of the White House’s messaging and asked them to clear decisions on protecting their troops.
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[03-Mar-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Mar-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
1. Go to work sick, get fired.
2. Stay at home to recover, get fired.
:ponythinking:


[03-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3.???


[03-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
4. profit


[03-Mar-20 11:54 PM] jlun2#8758
People are probably going to do 1 and risk it.


[03-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in america it;s not much of an option


[03-Mar-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because america is stupid when it comes to jobs...


[03-Mar-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
I doubt it would change given after this given the lack of ability to reflect for boomers


[03-Mar-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/VPXPSn2

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Well this is depressing
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[03-Mar-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
time to gift it to the boomers


[04-Mar-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people can't afford health coverage but there's a new type of poptart, so atleast we have that going for us, which is nice

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[04-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/02/27/italy-coronavirus-covid-19-milan-redzone-wedeman-pkg-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn

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Life around Italy's coronavirus 'red zone'  - CNN Video
Italian authorities have cordoned off areas where more than 50,000 people live in an attempt to to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. CNN's Ben Wedeman goes to a village on the fringes of the "red zone" and speaks to locals whose lives are affected.
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[04-Mar-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-broke-law-to-appoint-ken-cuccinelli-immigration-court-ruling-2020-3

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Trump's top immigration official was appointed to the job unlawfull...
President Donald Trump's top immigration official entered his job unlawfully and now some of his policies must be "set aside," a federal judge ruled.
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[04-Mar-20 12:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/6c0jXpyOv3g

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Goulash Guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c0jXpyOv3g
2 0 t h  C e n t u r y  A m e r i c a n i s m
Earl Browder was a nice man

Very nice tunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idn1cBciIH0
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[04-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I discovered that ben shapiro uses 538 for predictions


[04-Mar-20 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://bunkermundo.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/the-coming-banking-crisis/

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victorvillaneuva
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The Coming Banking Crisis
Unlike most of my posts this one will begin with a personal anecdote, something which I feel is appropriate considering my connection to this crisis is closer than most. Several years ago I began w…
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[04-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
> Would it in fact be cheaper to buy a hazmat suit, fly to Korea, get tested and fly back?


[04-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, why does this sound feasible


[04-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
I fucking hate how this sounds so feasible

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[04-Mar-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had a passport, international travel might just be my solution to a lot of medical issues... why is this more feasible than just getting help in america?


[04-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So quikk math


[04-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
40% of people in the world may get coronavirus


[04-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
1% of those may die.


[04-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's 28 million people.


[04-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the population of Florida dying and then some.


[04-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible it'll instead be 70% and 2% of those.


[04-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would be almost 100 million people dead.


[04-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/7Aj3yio.jpg

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[04-Mar-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/virginia-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-2

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LIVE UPDATES: Joe Biden speeds to a quick victory in Virginia Democ...
It's Super Tuesday, and Virginia voters hit the polls to allocate their 99 delegates. Follow along here for live, up-to-the-minute updates.
https://i.insider.com/5e5ef0b5fee23d23207d5a75?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-barred-audio-video-coverage-coronavirus-briefing-2020-3

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The White House prohibited audio and video coverage of a critical b...
Reporters were not given a clear answer why the White House barred audio and video coverage of the coronavirus briefing.
https://i.insider.com/5e5ef012fee23d2294418a68?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joe "I guess he'll do" Biden


[04-Mar-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/vermont-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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LIVE UPDATES: Bernie Sanders immediately called as winner of Vermon...
It's Super Tuesday, and Vermont voters hit the polls to allocate their 16 delegates. Follow along here for live, up-to-the-minute updates.
https://i.insider.com/5e5eefeafee23d2bdc78ad13?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
man, I really hope is ends up a blow out for Sanders


[04-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It ain't


[04-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any state with a large number of black and/or old people will go Biden


[04-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, that


[04-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Honahue#0656
American Saoma voted Bloomberg for some reason


[04-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably because it's a financial haven


[04-Mar-20 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden will likely gain the allegiance of an area roughly equal to that of the 1861 Confederate States


[04-Mar-20 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Councidence? I think not.


[04-Mar-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-lawsuit/trump-campaign-sues-washington-post-over-opinion-pieces-after-suing-ny-times-idUSKBN20Q2YZ

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Trump campaign sues Washington Post over opinion pieces, after suin...
U.S. President Donald Trump's re-election campaign sued the Washington Post...
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200303&t=2&i=1498329619&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG221YH


[04-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Treascair#7785
Times v. Sullivan says "bring it on, bitch"


[04-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1234847644662542338

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Reid Wilson (@PoliticsReid)
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Oh my gosh, almost 10 percent of Iran’s parliament has come down with coronavirus - https://t.co/uBKQo76uhA
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[04-Mar-20 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/alabama-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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LIVE UPDATES: Joe Biden has added the Alabama Democratic primary to...
It's Super Tuesday, and Alabama voters hit the polls to allocate their 52 delegates. Follow along here for live, up-to-the-minute updates.
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[04-Mar-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
rip free health care dreams


[04-Mar-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren really did spoil Sanders a bunch


[04-Mar-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
buttman dropping out helped biden a lot


[04-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Texas starting to come in, looking interesting


[04-Mar-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-index-reaction-fed-rate-cut-economic-boost-2020-3-1028960449

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Dow tumbles almost 800 points as the Fed's unexpected rate cut fail...
Stocks slipped from initial gains on Tuesday, closing deeply in the red after the Federal Reserve's emergency rate cut failed to soothe investor...
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[04-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why the fuck is Warren still in the race


[04-Mar-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She really needs to drop out and endorse Bernie


[04-Mar-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she may be staying in to spite bernie


[04-Mar-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like damn he would make you his VP


[04-Mar-20 02:20 AM] jlun2#8758
have fun with trump 2020 i guess


[04-Mar-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's probably thinking she can be Biden's VP


[04-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that he's closer to death or easier to manipulate.


[04-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden really is popular among voting groups that could make a difference though


[04-Mar-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
didn't biden said he would welcome a republican vp


[04-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Romney as VP would be funny though


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck goes through thhe empty heads of people who think Biden can beat Trump?


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden would collapse on stage in a debate no matter who's against him


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"77% of the black vote"


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 he was with obama


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
also something about unity


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think that blakks will carry Biden to victory.


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even as the poor are screwed.


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But the socialism would scare people into voting for trump if bernie won!"


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd need blacks and Latinos combined so


[04-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that once in office, Biden will be invincible with his milquetoast policies.


[04-Mar-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is my dad's reASONING APPARntly


[04-Mar-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
can boomers pls go corona


[04-Mar-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
although chances are none of the older people will get it and just young ppl


[04-Mar-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they already seem to be corona, sadly the wrong corona


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie should be announcing how under his plan, testing would be free.


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
While Biden will be making the usual BS about how the current system works.


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] jlun2#8758
not to mention dont old people have amazing free healthcare


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomer Socialism.


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
All for me, none for thee.


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They robbed pensions when young, inflated them when old (while robbing future pensions)


[04-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less direct in the US, but same thing.


[04-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are incredibly selfish in voting behavior.


[04-Mar-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want healthcare you have to work for fuckmart!


[04-Mar-20 02:25 AM] ononim#8141
Congrats @Trump


[04-Mar-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congrats to trump for winning the war on trump


[04-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/WVn5S0R.png

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[04-Mar-20 02:28 AM] jlun2#8758
so biden wins i guess


[04-Mar-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it;s pie in the skyyyyy :yamero:


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sanders seems to be leading in Texas


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This could be interesting


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 but warren is splitting the vote


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She's doing the Bloomberg strategy


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
also I wonder if 4 more years of trump will do more damage to Christianity


[04-Mar-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Berg is trying to split the Biden vote and gamble for a brokered convention


[04-Mar-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Warren's doing the same to Bernie


[04-Mar-20 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Alright boys it's time to take the primaries to the next level. Battle Royale time. Where we droppin'?


[04-Mar-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
warren is a super delegate, so if the convention is brokered, she could attempt to name herself the general candidate


[04-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd all go Biden.


[04-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except her.


[04-Mar-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt work at all, but shes willing to suicide for it!


[04-Mar-20 02:35 AM] jlun2#8758
so no health care in this lifetime?


[04-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Treascair#7785
so... is the AP results behind, or...? Because all I'm seeing outside of Virginia's 94% reporting is in, like, the 30's and 40's for percentage.  Or single digits, like Alabama.


[04-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there will be healthcare.... if you're above a certain payline


[04-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
business insider is more directly up to date apparently


[04-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the arkansas polls just closed


[04-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
R-kansas


[04-Mar-20 02:37 AM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. biden


[04-Mar-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one named yet


[04-Mar-20 02:37 AM] jlun2#8758
bloomberg surprisingly strong


[04-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is making a contested convention basically the only option.


[04-Mar-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg basically shoveled feel good ads down throats


[04-Mar-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
> contested convention
so basically biden wins


[04-Mar-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Bloomberg can pass a certain treshold and if none of the major candidates receives a clear majority of delegates iirc


[04-Mar-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2024: trump is now running as a centrist democrat to defeat trump- democrats must vote trump to defeat trump


[04-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, contested is just lakk of majority.


[04-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody has a majority? 2nd ballot, delegates released.


[04-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The delegates, especially superdelegates, HATE Bernie.


[04-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd vote Biden in a heartbeat, Bloomberg with a bit of prompting.


[04-Mar-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bloomberg would basically just have to throw more money at them and they'd cave


[04-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would look even more illegitimate than voting Biden after Bernie got a plurality on the 1st ballot.


[04-Mar-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's all about the Benjamins and Bloomberg is practically giving them away!


[04-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/frank-wucinski-says-hospital-billed-him-for-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-3

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An American who was quarantined to check for signs of coronavirus s...
Frank Wucinski and his 3-year-old daughter Annabel evacuated Wuhan, China, in February and were then quarantined at Marine Corps Station Miramar, near San Diego, for two weeks.
https://i.insider.com/5e5d541bfee23d56ba0c5b43?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
> An American who was quarantined to check for signs of coronavirus says he's facing more than $2,600 in bills from his government-mandated hospital stay

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[04-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
:wow:


[04-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pete's healthcare plan, right there.


[04-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably will be BIden's too.


[04-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't bills you by surprise with the same ridiculous rates that insurers normally would.


[04-Mar-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
boomer being smug and saying "just stay indoors, simple! "


[04-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, @Crow


[04-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plane tikket to China and bakk: $2200


[04-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[04-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
$400 less


[04-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
than a few miles of ambulance ride.


[04-Mar-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
naw, boomers will call you a spoiled snowflake for staying indoors, and if you get injured due to reasons outside your control, they'll just blame it all on you


[04-Mar-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
asking for help is communism!


[04-Mar-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
caw

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[04-Mar-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sanders duking it out with Biden in Tennessee


[04-Mar-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Former doing better than expected there


[04-Mar-20 03:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I personally gave up and assumed boomers fucked the younger folks for another 4 years


[04-Mar-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden won north carolina unfortunately


[04-Mar-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/alex_burness/status/1234574906630668288?s=19

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Alex Burness (@alex_burness)
https://twitter.com/alex_burness/status/1234574906630668288?s=19
Dozens of anti-vaxxers and their kids have descended upon the Colorado Capitol to protest a bill that aims to limit vaccine exemptions. “We’ll be here all week,” one mom told me.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESIXVINXUAAMDNa.jpg:large
Twitter


[04-Mar-20 03:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
I can't wait for the general election battle between two republicans


[04-Mar-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) oh no it's the karen convention


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've always wondered


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they all brought baby showers for your baby shower!@


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they soap you like it


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At what point does intentionally trying to spread a disease when sick stop just being a dick and start being terrorism


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
what is the point of having a balcony design like that with no stairwell..


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's the group name for Karens?


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Karenii.


[04-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it needs to be an existing word.


[04-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 COVID-19 just continues getting worse and elections are cancelled


[04-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like "murder" for crows.


[04-Mar-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a manager of karens

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[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
how exactly did we end up with a whole generation of entitled white women who endorse pseudoscience and multilevel marketing schemes


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
is it just facebook


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suburbs.


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sheltered suburbs


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm not convinced there aren't millions of antivaxxors


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suburbs are a breeding ground for upper middle class whites who believe "having a seizure" is NSFW.

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[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Work at home moms that obsess over the social status and pampering their kids


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
literally what


[04-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They go to church and every extracurricular activity.


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anything that threatens their perfect world should be kept away from their family etc.


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie do they believe in demonic possessions as well


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
do remember, the suburbs exist to giv white people places to liv away from blakk people.


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, but they believe in ghosts.


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the having a seizure thing is wtf


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They think grandma watches over them and hav never read the Bible.


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte, you must realize


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
grandma is a cow in india


[04-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
these are people who think FiM is too violent.


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are people that were in their late 30s or 40s when "DnD is literally satanic"


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Hannah Montana is too sexual.


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hew-man lres children into satan worship


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, we're not talking about boomers anymore


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spongebob is as extreme as they're willing to go.


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In terms of content.


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] jlun2#8758
> 30s and 40s
oh shit thats me in half a decade


[04-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about... Gen X


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want isolationism.


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want a white island of pure rich goodness.


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The 80s were fucked up


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gated communities.


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
summer camp island is too violent for the sensitive eyes


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] jlun2#8758
also
> multilevel marketing
how are they even wealthy


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they aren't


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inheritance.


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Great aesthetics, cemented the US as a 3rd world country


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mlms are just legal pyramid schemes


[04-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They inherited expensive homes from Boomers.


[04-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US is a banana republic with amazing internal propaganda


[04-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got to work just as Boomers screwed wages.


[04-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they made enuff to get by.


[04-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their kids are screwed.


[04-Mar-20 03:11 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm seeing my grandparents devouring my inheritance from constant illness


[04-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
🙂 🔫


[04-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never ever ever consider inheritance is a thing


[04-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should've been abolished when feudalism was


[04-Mar-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/north-carolina-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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LIVE UPDATES: First quarter of North Carolina vote shows Joe Biden ...
DDHQ and Insider project Joe Biden will win North Carolina but polls remain open in parts of the state.
https://i.insider.com/5e5ef898fee23d2752368892?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[04-Mar-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
that was expected


[04-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My main worry isn't even Biden's policies


[04-Mar-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is ahead in Texas so far


[04-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's that he'll fucking die Live on stage during a debate


[04-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or just go fulll dementia


[04-Mar-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we're lucky both trump and biden will die live during the same debate


[04-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time he talks for more than 10 seconds he fucks something up


[04-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's not his stutter, it's memory or logic


[04-Mar-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden has lapsed into his old campaign lies from the 70's


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which might explain the us senate gaff from awhile back


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If dubs Biden loses the nomination in July and dies of a stress induced heart attack


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
what if biden gets coronavirus


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he dies almost for sure.


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
>684585014607741018


[04-Mar-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you got dubs


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm worried about Bernie getting the virus


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Considering they're constantly traveling and at rallies


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's obviously not as unhealthy as Biden, but he's still old and may catch it too


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie I think is healthier than Biden.


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not absurd to imagine at least one major candidate will get the virus


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
I think bernie's healthier than biden


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But both could die from it.


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
but bernie has had a heart attack


[04-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has more signs of health problems.


[04-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden had his eye explode on stage


[04-Mar-20 03:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> But both could die from it.
I say that every single time my grandpa gets sick and he's like 90 now so :shrugpony:


[04-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heart problems are common, and less indicative of overall collapse of health.


[04-Mar-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
as far as I know they're not very common for people my age...


[04-Mar-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tennessee-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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LIVE UPDATES: Joe Biden has won the Tennessee Democratic primary, c...
A natural disaster disrupted Tennessee's Super Tuesday, delaying results. Follow along here for live, up-to-the-minute updates.
https://i.insider.com/5e5f0fd6fee23d350f7cdd56?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
that was also expected


[04-Mar-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/colorado-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/colorado-democratic-primary-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3
LIVE UPDATES: Polls just closed in Colorado on Super Tuesday, follo...
It's Super Tuesday, and 67 delegates are up for grabs in Colorado. Follow along here for live, up-to-the-minute updates.
https://i.insider.com/5e5f0ea7fee23d34705df1e4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and that


[04-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Teaspoon if you want inheritance to be abolished then what would you want to have happen to your parent's and grandparent's property?


[04-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon


[04-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
surely there's some possension of their's you'd want to keep. same as anything you'd want to pass down to a loved one or heir.


[04-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, there isn't


[04-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Crow#5457
you've already strawmanned the argument against inheritance and you literally just asked the question, I'm in awe of this


[04-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I want nothing of theirs and I expect nothing from them


[04-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm far more radical than just that


[04-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I would abolish nuclear families if I could


[04-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There can be no level playing field with them


[04-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
And why is that?


[04-Mar-20 03:45 AM] ononim#8141
rad


[04-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I know for myself I'd like to pass down my game and comic book collection to someone I love and care about when I pass away. And that is just one example
but moving on from that, why abolish the nuclear family? Studies show a family unit contributes to a stable community. So if you are going to do away with the  "nuclear family" then what would you propose to put in it's place?
I know some have suggested some sort of commune or some sort of military style family. But what do you envision.


[04-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A child born in a loving family with a sibling will not have the same opportunities, emotional and otherwise, as a child born from an abusive family with 4 other siblings


[04-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone born in a rich family will have an overwhelming advantage over someone born from a poor one


[04-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The idea of meritocracy flies out the window the second you're conceived


[04-Mar-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't quite get the idea of passing on your stuff to your kids


[04-Mar-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, i don't get why people plan for stuff that would happen after they die


[04-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
peace of mind


[04-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I come from a loving family with no major financial troubles


[04-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I've studied, worked, and been friends with people that did not have that


[04-Mar-20 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, some people are not so selfish, but uhh... i can't see myself wishing to leave any sort of legacy if this world continues to be as wretched as i think it is


[04-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their prospects were lessened through no fault of their own


[04-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/movienation/status/1235025211931553795

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Roger Moore (@movienation)
https://twitter.com/movienation/status/1235025211931553795
@krystalball @MsVivicaFox Bernie is unelectable. She is 
capable of a comeback. He will never clear 30% nationally.
Twitter


[04-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I love the rando Hollywood inhabitants who for some reason love Warren


[04-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You cannot pretend a society truly cares about your own merits and efforts when the starting line is so unequal


[04-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
society doesn't but people do.


[04-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's what i've found in life.


[04-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
abolishing the family unit and leaving nothing to replace it will only widen the inequality you dislike.


[04-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic fallacy.


[04-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just implied the alternative to a source of inequality is some unknown *greater* source of inequality.


[04-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without establishing what the hell would cause such.


[04-Mar-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Native Americans have for very long survived as cohesive indentity units in seas of repression and poverty and very few of them use the nuclear family structure iirc


[04-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there is multiple contributing factors to inequality.
But one of the major one's is poor upbringing from a broken home or weak familiar ties. 
true everyone "nuclear family" is just one kind of family unit structure like I said ealier.


[04-Mar-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Being born from a rich, resourceful family is also a contributing factor to inequality


[04-Mar-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It goes both ways, technically


[04-Mar-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And nuclear family structures might make sharing less of an attractive societal deal


[04-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you can be rich and still have a poor family structure


[04-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you can be poor and have a strong family unit


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eliminating the nuclear family doesn't mean a broken home, and weak familial ties do not necessarily lead to severe problems.


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Making my point


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I also object to "structure" and "unit" here in reference to what makes upbringing good or bad.


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are too many opportunities for inequality forced on people before they're even born


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then why break up the family unit?


[04-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies show for example, single-parent kids are fine compared to multiple-parent.


[04-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i've seen studies say the opposite nebbie


[04-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
By putting "unit" and "structure" in like that, you are pre-assuming that to break out of the nuclear family causes problems.


[04-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i like to know where you got yours


[04-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-more-evidence-that-children-aren-t-any-worse-off-in-single-parent-households

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Huge Study Spanning Almost a Decade Reveals The Impact Single-Paren...
Kids' well-being isn't negatively affected by whether they've got one parent living at home or two, according to a new report – one that also shows that single parenthood is actually more common than we might have thought.
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2019-01/processed/single-parent-sea_1024.jpg


[04-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not the one I got actually, I got my info from my psychology professor years bakk, but the data is here etc.


[04-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where are your sources?


[04-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where do people's assets go when they die if you take away their ability to give it to whoever they want?


[04-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE STATE.


[04-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, you're technically even taking away the failsafe that makes sure it goes to your family


[04-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh.


[04-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't give things to your pet btw


[04-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want your grand-dad's yacht? It's up for auction.


[04-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/
https://prospect.org/health/consequences-single-motherhood/

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The Consequences of Single Motherhood
Children of single-parent families suffer measurable harm. But the problems of the family are far more complex than the popular debate often suggests.
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[04-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So other rich people buy it?


[04-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
after a brief search here's two


[04-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first one here, where does it say anything about what's at issue here?


[04-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says solo moms are more likely to be poor, blakk, etc.


[04-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but what about worse child outcomes when adjusting for income level etc.?


[04-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm personally fine with single parents as long as its not abusive parents


[04-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
anyway I can't waste more time here I have a test due tonight.
that said I think your argument of breaking up the family is baffling for the reason given
Also I would rather have someone I trust be given my stuff than some nameless, faceless person from the state.


[04-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the second thing, it appears to be saying that the vast majority of the problem with single parents raising kids is that there was a nasty breakup involved.


[04-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I would rather it all be burned


[04-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The differences are marginal when there was only one parent from the start.


[04-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Work against inflation and all that


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also work against wealth vs. GDP


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1235037758512443392

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[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
wew


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a measure that I hadn't thought about until watching that video by the Tory Boomer.


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
if wealth as a percent of GDP is high


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means that what people make is trivial compared to what exists.


[04-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means, in practice, people can't afford rent.


[04-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth has skyrokketed while GDP hasn't.


[04-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a direct result, people cannot afford rent easily.


[04-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Glad I bought a backup bottle of vodka


[04-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485851-de-blasio-to-boomer-pundits-smaller-field-very-good-formula-for-sanders

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[04-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Birth date: May 8, 1961


[04-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"haha I hate myself too fellow kids"


[04-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485854-biden-touts-joementum-after-multiple-super-tuesday-wins

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Biden touts 'Joementum' after multiple Super Tuesday wins
Former Vice President Joe Biden took to Twitter to tout his “Joementum” after winning big in a handful of primaries earlier on Super Tuesday.
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[04-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
how do you do, fellow kids


[04-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, the dude who does this talk is also a boomer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXzvjBYW8A

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The post-war baby boom of 1945-65 produced the biggest and richest generation in British history. David Willetts discusses how these boomers have attained this position at the expense of younger generations.

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[04-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
he compares it to how people introduce themselves at an AA meeting as "Hi, I'm [name], and I'm an alcoholic."


[04-Mar-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact: I'm pretty sure Buttigieg is the first candidate ever to win Iowa and not get the nomination that wasn't an uncontested thing


[04-Mar-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a sign of how fractured the party is.


[04-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Last time a candidate didn't win Iowa but won the nom, it was an uncontested race where everyone let the native senator have a win because he wanted it


[04-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he was retiring or something


[04-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(1992)


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can be a boomer and understand that things are fucked


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note at the end of that vid


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like brains are generationally coded


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
he talks about how to fix shit


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
and he suggests, I shit you not


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
a one-time 10,000 pound payment to everyone at age 25 or so.


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Universal Basic Inheritance.


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, but


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it isn't cut into by actual inheritance


[04-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's given to the rich kids too.


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he argues this is enuff to hav a real impact, just giv people entering adulthood a bit of money for a down payment on a house or something.


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like...


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
YOU JUST LAID OUT HOW THEY ARE SCREWED SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY FOR LIFE AT EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE ECONOMY


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> money for a down payment on a house 
:squintyjack:


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
10k GBP


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
10,000 pounds is not going to fix SHIT


[04-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't a downpayment on a house


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a downpayment on a garage spot outside of town


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like a fukking down payment on a car at best.


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] jlun2#8758
Do Boomers not understand inflation or something


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He understands


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
he'd adjust it for inflation


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
he knows all this shit about how he and his generation ground millennials into dust


[04-Mar-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
and THAT is his solution.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't say "actually fix pensions and tax the wealthy"


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
no no no


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
that'd be verboten.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause Boomer and Tory.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also points out how now Tories are like, only Boomers.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that this is a new trend.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very, very new trend that's very very bad for his party.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
He offers no solutions.


[04-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just giv 25-year-olds money I guess to bribe them into voting you.


[04-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's extremely offensive.


[04-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers seem to literally think the solution to other people not liking you fukking them over is to just throw money at them.


[04-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav more acceptance of bribery in governance than other generations.


[04-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and their go-to solution is one-time stimulus bullshit.


[04-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Boomer fishing lesson story:


[04-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You give a man a fish, he remembers to vote for you, and that's how local government should work. You teach a man to fish, he's no longer dependent and forgets about you and votes for liberals, so he should die in a fire because he's actually now contributing to the economy and changing things.


[04-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, any time you see him with a fish, you hammer him about where he got it, meanwhile you've got a gigantic fish farm that you got "through hard work and determination with a small loan of a million dollars."


[04-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Interest and tax-free from daddy)


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Midknight#9798
(that turns out later to have actually been about 350 million dollars)


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
> He also points out how now Tories are like, only Boomers.
> and that this is a new trend.
> A very, very new trend that's very very bad for his party.
I'm sure they'll find some innovative way to ignore votes and keep zombie on


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
also uh, how commercially viable are fish farms btw?


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current strategy is to manipulate the media to discourage young people while relying on funds from the dead.


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Midknight#9798
could be recalling the wrong number. just know it was big. 😄


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very commercially viable.


[04-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was 50 million.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Tory party's primary financing is estates.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dead people's estates.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are funded by dead Boomers.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder if it's feasible to figure out how to farm sport fish, then get people to pay to fish in your private fish farm


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers don't even stop being a political nuisance after death.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect similar is going on with Republicans.


[04-Mar-20 04:38 AM] jlun2#8758
> They are funded by dead Boomers.
even at death they keep on shitting on newer gens


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie is that source of funding limitless?


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racist fukk dies with a million dollars, says to donate it to the GOP.


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, remember, money makes money.


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Estates can go on forever if they hav enuff money and don't make stupid decisions.


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So essentially, yes.


[04-Mar-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
so racism forever?


[04-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[04-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money doesn't completely buy elections.


[04-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a huge tilting effect.


[04-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boris is about to sell the NHS.


[04-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Midknight#9798
one just has to get them to die out completely so even the lawyers controlling the estate and the party financing have to use a different issue to stampede their sheep in the right direction to attain moar powahr


[04-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man does anyone else remember London 2012 where the UK's ceremony had this whole big thing about how great NHS was


[04-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they combined it with Peter Pan or something?


[04-Mar-20 04:42 AM] Midknight#9798
considering John Oliver just brought it up on national tv recently, I'm sure lots of people in the US do 😄


[04-Mar-20 04:43 AM] jlun2#8758
> one just has to get them to die out completely so even the **lawyers **controlling the estate
rip no robo lawyers


[04-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As a profession they would definitely fight the hardest.


[04-Mar-20 04:47 AM] Midknight#9798
lawyers of the future will be like the travel agents of today: all the boring paperwork is done by AI, but they put a human face in front of it because it's good for business ^__^


[04-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders wins California


[04-Mar-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
by how much


[04-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-Mar-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Oh wow,


[04-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DNC will need to look at the swing states


[04-Mar-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Googling "Super Tuesday" gave me

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[04-Mar-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
which I was like "wait what"


[04-Mar-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The ones that gave Trump his electoral college victory


[04-Mar-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of states Biden is winning in are lost causes in the presidential race


[04-Mar-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, who gives a fuck about what the Alabama democrats want


[04-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South was a mistake.


[04-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1234973701847650304

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[04-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[04-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
what is biden's thing with sniffing people


[04-Mar-20 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
soul vore

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[04-Mar-20 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/4ag7ep/electability-is-now-code-for-not-wanting-to-vote-for-bernie

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‘Electability’ Is Now Code for Not Wanting to Vote for Bernie
As the number of candidates whittles down, more Democrats are using the term as a way to avoid saying what they really mean.
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[04-Mar-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
delete this


[04-Mar-20 05:21 AM] jlun2#8758
scary commie


[04-Mar-20 05:22 AM] jlun2#8758
first we'll get free healthcare. then they'll take all your cash. and finally they'll send you to the gulags


[04-Mar-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is absorbing the youthful scent to gain a few precious minutes of life.


[04-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey! V-Sauce Michael here. Did the South _really_ deserve to be admitted back into the Union?

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[04-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
man today sucks


[04-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
this stuff


[04-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
the strap holding my gastank broke


[04-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
and I have 2 exams tomorrow


[04-Mar-20 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any state that still flew the rebel flags should have been deleted


[04-Mar-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if Bavaria still flew the nazi flag "out of historical respect" or "in honor of the memory of those that fought for their home"


[04-Mar-20 05:44 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
I'm so sick and tired of these small YouTube channels being attacked and harassed for showing "explicit" content for educational purposes. Violence and disturbing images accompanying a documentary about a serial killer is apparently too much for people to handle. The main problem is that this goddamn website is being run by fucking libtards who can't even handle hearing thr word coronavirus without freaking out and hiding. I'm so tired of my favorite things being taken from me because somebody else doesn't fucking agree with it. Fuck.


[04-Mar-20 05:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> libtards
Pretty positive conservatives hate those content alot, and while screech "THINK OF THE CHIDLREN"


[04-Mar-20 05:46 AM] jlun2#8758
so basically no side to hide


[04-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Flag_of_the_German_Reich_%281933%E2%80%931935%29.svg/1024px-Flag_of_the_German_Reich_%281933%E2%80%931935%29.svg.png
actually they would likely fly this flag if they did. since this was Germany's official flag of that era.

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[04-Mar-20 05:46 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Whoever it is needs to stop


[04-Mar-20 05:47 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Because in the end, the only ones who suffer are the people who put time and effort into getting this information out and the people who want to see it.


[04-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
YT is profit driven, with their money coming from ads and a shoddy AI that decides what ads go on what content


[04-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most companies don't want their ads to show on videos where there're "bad things"


[04-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
YT doesn't want to pay for humans to figure out what "bad things" are per video, or even per reports


[04-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They would have to hire thousands


[04-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tens of thousands, I'd bet


[04-Mar-20 05:49 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
And that sucks for content creators whom are denied monetization due to being seen as a "bad channel".


[04-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And put an effort into stopping the spam videos that make up a good third of their content and ad revenue


[04-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Almighty Dollar commands it be so


[04-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also reminder that Japan has a shrine to the "war dead" that includes war criminals and the country is totally unrepentant for it


[04-Mar-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> libtards


[04-Mar-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
WHERE ARE THE FEET PICS AOC


[04-Mar-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I MUST KNOW


[04-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Germany had a church in Berlin that said "Hitler and Himmler gave their lives for the Reich and are now in heaven forever"


[04-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's basically what Japan has


[04-Mar-20 05:53 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
It's fine to make fun of suicide victims but post a picture of crime scene photos and you're a disgusting monster.


[04-Mar-20 05:54 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
I'm done. Thanks for listening to my rant.


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[04-Mar-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1235054164788445184

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[04-Mar-20 06:19 AM] Opponent#3498
re:family. Now do note that I don't really understand the term 'nuclear family', I thought this was all 'traditional values, hardcore Christian, multiple children' kind of affair which is often pretty horrible, but you extended the earlier debate to what seemed to be like any family at all.


[04-Mar-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
nuclear family refers to parents and children who are genetically related


[04-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
so, discounting statistical anomalies, any family.


[04-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough.


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
not really


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
most households worldwide also have grandparents/grandchildren


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
or other relatives


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is a bit strange in stigmatizing that


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm still wondering what TSP wants if not inheritance, I think he said just to burn it all?


[04-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Opponent#3498
from my experience, family is expected to give a shit about you so nobody else has to. If they're gone, you're on your own, free to pursue the exciting career of alcoholism. In practice, of course, exceptions exist, but as things currently stay, you have that or you have nothing.


[04-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if you don't give anything to anyone the state steps in and gives it to your relatives


[04-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
with marriage overwhelmingly seen as an economic affair first and everything else hopefully never.


[04-Mar-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The last thing the state wants is dealing with all the personal belongings of every single citizen, even burning it all is an expense


[04-Mar-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think eliminating inheritance is necessary


[04-Mar-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
just tax the bajeesus out of it


[04-Mar-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
make it so anyone with a total wealth below $1M pays nothing


[04-Mar-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and anyone above pays 50%


[04-Mar-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the point of the estate tax


[04-Mar-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
which republicans have so wonderfully decried as a "death tax"...


[04-Mar-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
same with inheritance. The idea of giving things to 'the State' is nice, but as someone tentatively experiencing... just that, I wouldn't support it. In practice (the 90ies in post-USSR), people were _very_ interested in older folks, single or married, who'd be coerced into singing off their apartaments for the promise of lifetime support, supplied with faulty and/or harmful meds to make sure they die off as quickly as possible and their stuff goes to 'the State', represented by 'the social services', which in turn meant specific groups of people who made a killing off it.


[04-Mar-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
opinions on estate tax?


[04-Mar-20 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
estate tax over 1m? By all means. There are very rare exceptions when a person legitimately came to own something like a historical landmark building or apartment, which has hugely inflated worth, but apart from that, this is reserved for top 1%.


[04-Mar-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
just to be clear this is using the same bracketing system as income tax


[04-Mar-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
so you pay 0% on all wealth below $1M and then 50% on all wealth above it


[04-Mar-20 06:31 AM] Opponent#3498
since this is reasonable for the vast majority of people, this would also be fought tooth and nail, but I'd rather have this a hot, contested issue and solve healthcare in the meantime.


[04-Mar-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
so if your total wealth was $1000001 at death you would pay $0.50, not $500000.05


[04-Mar-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Looks pretty reasonable.


[04-Mar-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
it really shouldn't matter for most people with that kinda wealth anyway, their kids likely went to the best schools already


[04-Mar-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
accounting tricks can stretch things out, but in general, you won't get hundreds of millions worth of inheritance easily, which is the point.


[04-Mar-20 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
like Bill Gates kids don't need an inheritance to get by


[04-Mar-20 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
neither do many much less wealthy people


[04-Mar-20 06:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> most households worldwide also have grandparents/grandchildren
> or other relatives
> the US is a bit strange in stigmatizing that
ikr? where do all the grandparents go? their own million dollar homes?


[04-Mar-20 06:57 AM] jlun2#8758
are retirement homes dirt cheap or something?


[04-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I kind of wish they would. Having to take care of grandparents who slowly go senile on you is a pretty devastating experience if you care at least a little bit.


[04-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
if they also happen to _live_ with you...


[04-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
hooo.


[04-Mar-20 06:59 AM] jlun2#8758
>  take care of grandparents who slowly go senile on you is a pretty devastating experience
Can confirm, and makes it really hard for me to stop stigmatizing old people.


[04-Mar-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I think a lot of it is because of how we are socialized currently, you're either productive or you're a burden. there's fossils of humans with no teeth meaning that pre agriculture people were taking care of old people by chewing food for them despite the fact that they likely weren't doing much "productive" for the tribe. yeah dementia and senility are terrible I've seen it first had myself, but I think a lot of the stigma is just how we think about people


[04-Mar-20 12:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are the chances Bernie might pull a "to hell with this bullshit" and run as a third party?


[04-Mar-20 12:05 PM] Opponent#3498
not in the middle of the election season.


[04-Mar-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a bit late for that, and if he loses the primary he legally can't do so because us election laws are stupidly broken


[04-Mar-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and somehow 2 private corporations are in charge of the whole primary thing


[04-Mar-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all in the name of keeping it to the hatfields and mccoys


[04-Mar-20 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, so far nothing of what Democratic establishment has done was in any way unexpected. There _would_ be a coordinated push against Bernie. One of the forms it took caught me by suprise, namely Bloomberg, but I can't fault him too much; being a US president is one of the few things he haven't tried yet, and he certainly can afford it.


[04-Mar-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a filthy millionaire in the white house and a billionaire must step up to take his place, this looks like a job for bloomberg!


[04-Mar-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484811-biden-wins-texas-primary

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484811-biden-wins-texas-primary
Biden wins Texas, capping off major Super Tuesday victories
Former Vice President Joe Biden capped off a run of victories on Super Tuesday with a narrow win in Texas, a massive prize for a candidate whose campaign appeared on the edge of collapse less than a week ago.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_030320getty_0.jpg


[04-Mar-20 01:26 PM] Raptorshy#6268
>Can confirm, and makes it really hard for me to stop stigmatizing old people.
To be fair, current old people also have the worst racism, sexism, and other bigotries out of any generation currently alive. It makes it hard to even want to help them.


[04-Mar-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hate discussing politics with my father because new ideas are "pie in the sky" that will never come to pass with him and if we dont remain neutral to republicans we lose


[04-Mar-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vote centrism  or people might flee to trump!


[04-Mar-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people will flee to trump because you voted centrism...


[04-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm mostly okay with my father, but he does kind of miss the bigger picture with politics


[04-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Raptorshy#6268
He's democrat


[04-Mar-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad is democrat too but centrist democrat, he isnt a bad person and i get it, but it;s painful to listen to him speak about politics


[04-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Raptorshy#6268
My mom is definitely very Republican but she's not dumb and blind with it most of the time


[04-Mar-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is only concerned with beating trump, nothing that comes after matters to him


[04-Mar-20 01:30 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Only reason I don't talk to her about politics is because she gets way too into it and before long I don't even know what she's talking about


[04-Mar-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i'm looking at this like 3 steps in advanced because just beating trump doesnt do much of anything if you dont fucking do anything with it...


[04-Mar-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my mom is democrat but she doesnt really talk about it


[04-Mar-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad also told me to my face that healthcare policy doesnt effect me directly...


[04-Mar-20 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it's not like i;m uninsured or unable to register for medicaid or anything...


[04-Mar-20 01:37 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Oof


[04-Mar-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not entirely sure he's aware that you have to be 65 to apply for medicaid in my state


[04-Mar-20 01:39 PM] Raptorshy#6268
But that's what medicare is for :ponythinking:


[04-Mar-20 01:39 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's nuts


[04-Mar-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i'm never paying for an insurance company because fucking christ those are a scam right now


[04-Mar-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd be in debt with a broken leg and nothing to show for it but a massive fucking bill


[04-Mar-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because soemhow fixing a broken leg would qualify as "cosmetic surgery"


[04-Mar-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i dont have the money to legally challenge that kind of red flag bullshit


[04-Mar-20 01:42 PM] Raptorshy#6268
"I mean you don't technically *need* your legs" - Insurance companies


[04-Mar-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so pretty much my options are working for a company that uses medicare as a hostage chip rather than a benefit


[04-Mar-20 01:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm pretty fortunate that the state I lived in for most of my life had excellent medical assistance, and now I get it through the military


[04-Mar-20 01:45 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Especially since my hormones are definitely something I can't go without...


[04-Mar-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i might as well join the military...


[04-Mar-20 01:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I've done the DIY thing but it's a pain and it's hard to get labs done


[04-Mar-20 01:47 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's up to you. You do get good medical care, housing, decent pay (depending on the work), and education at the expense of needing to abide to the UCMJ


[04-Mar-20 01:48 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And you lose a lot of voluntarily mobility and are away from family a lot, which can be very hard


[04-Mar-20 01:48 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Probably the hardest part for most


[04-Mar-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that part is my major issue, well that and having all the benefits tied directly to the military


[04-Mar-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i probably wouldn't get shipped out since i'm likely past the ship out age if that's even a thing


[04-Mar-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485862-biden-scores-big-super-tuesday-victories-but-sanders-takes-california

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485862-biden-scores-big-super-tuesday-victories-but-sanders-takes-california
Biden scores big Super Tuesday victories, but Sanders takes California
Former Vice President Joe Biden is projected to win more than half of the 14 states holding contests on Super Tuesday, exceeding expectations for a campaign that was in serious trouble just weeks ago.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_sandersbernie_030320getty.jpg


[04-Mar-20 01:52 PM] Raptorshy#6268
If you can't deploy they will kick you out


[04-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Raptorshy#6268
You might noot be deploying, but you must remain *deployable*


[04-Mar-20 01:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so Sanders took expected wins, Biden took Dixie, and at the moment Biden's got 401 delegates to Sanders' 323. All I'm seeing in the comments on political threads is that the Biden supporters are saying "give it up already," but the question is...what is the outlook for the remaining states


[04-Mar-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's a coin toss at this point for me but biden won my state


[04-Mar-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still dont entirely understand this delegates thing


[04-Mar-20 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how are they totaled and how is a number decided?


[04-Mar-20 01:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the point is that you're not supposed to understand it, because if you did, you'd realize it's pretty undemocratic


[04-Mar-20 01:58 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I mean we are a republic


[04-Mar-20 01:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is true


[04-Mar-20 01:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And yeah it's done in a really dumb way


[04-Mar-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure i want to join the military while president cadet bone spurs is running the whole show...


[04-Mar-20 01:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I literally cannot, and it's shitty.


[04-Mar-20 01:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Because I was all set to do it


[04-Mar-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cadet bone spurs really fucked the bitch on that one


[04-Mar-20 02:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
But yeah the more you learn about how votes are calculated, the dumber you realize it is


[04-Mar-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was designed by rich fucktards to support rich fucktards and place a filter on the candidates to remove the unwanteds


[04-Mar-20 02:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's mind-bogglingly dumb


[04-Mar-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So what Biden's support tells me from last night is that a lot of people are going to take that "electability" pill and, even if Sanders gets the nomination, we might see a lot of boomers vote for Trump anyway


[04-Mar-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
even if they hate him


[04-Mar-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from what my dad says, that's pretty spot on


[04-Mar-20 02:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Reminds me of all those people who were only voting against Hillary


[04-Mar-20 02:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know what it tells *me?* It tells me that these people have completely bought into the idea of an authoritarian, all-powerful US president. Because their fear is that if Sanders wins, he'll do too much "socialism" and there's nothing we could do about it


[04-Mar-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll round people up and kill them in central park!


[04-Mar-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but what if we scare off the republican voters?


[04-Mar-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is another argument i hear a lot


[04-Mar-20 03:11 PM] byte[]#2610
> What are the chances Bernie might pull a "to hell with this bullshit" and run as a third party?


[04-Mar-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
None because he's not allowed to


[04-Mar-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
It's against the law


[04-Mar-20 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gloats-jeff-sessions-alabama-senate-primary-runoff-2020-3

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Trump gloated after his former Attorney General Jeff Sessions faile...
Sessions has been forced into a runoff against opponent Tommy Tuberville. Trump suggested that Sessions' handling of the Russia probe was to blame.
https://i.insider.com/5e5faf1ffee23d7b6217e2c2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-04/fair-work-commission-senior-official-caught-with-anime-figurines/12026180

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-04/fair-work-commission-senior-official-caught-with-anime-figurines/12026180
Senators take aim at 'scantily clad' anime figurines in senior publ...
Senate Estimates hears Fair Work Commission staff raised concerns about the 20 or so figurines deputy president Gerard Boyce had displayed in his office.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6647880-16x9-700x394.jpg


[04-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
lol


[04-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it takes a special sort of idiot to do things like this.


[04-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
that said, I'd like this to be normal.


[04-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
just display whatever the hell you want.


[04-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
and make it socially acceptable simply by force of statistics.


[04-Mar-20 04:45 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
If it ain't innapropriate people should be into whatever they want to indeed... If it was idk baseball stuff nobody would care but some anime action figurines? OMG


[04-Mar-20 04:45 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:spitsmh:


[04-Mar-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
_draws anime tiddies on  @Opponent _

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[04-Mar-20 05:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.jpost.com/International/Polish-MP-says-Pogroms-were-good-for-Jews-assisted-natural-selection-619640

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Polish MP says pogroms were good for Jews, assisted natural selection
Far-right Polish MP Janusz Korwin-Mikke was speaking on a news program about the ‘upside’ of the corona virus which he also said was improving the human gene poll through natural selection.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/454652


[04-Mar-20 05:07 PM] ononim#8141
delightfully polish


[04-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
🦀


[04-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
BLOOMBERG OUT


[04-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-drops-out.html

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By Patricia Mazzei, Rebecca R. Ruiz and Jeremy W. Peters
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-drops-out.html
Michael Bloomberg Quits Democratic Race, Ending a Brief and Costly Bid
He had staked his candidacy on doing well on Super Tuesday, spending more than half a billion dollars on advertising alone.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/03/us/politics/03bloomberg-out/03bloomberg-out-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vn490kogaok41.png

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https://i.redd.it/vn490kogaok41.png


[04-Mar-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
No more bloomberg ads


[04-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🦀 BLOOMBERG IS ~~DEAD~~ OUT 🦀


[04-Mar-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
This is it, this is the real deal


[04-Mar-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden v Sanders v Warren v Gabbard


[04-Mar-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh thank god, the ads are done


[04-Mar-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/E0eSGgD.jpg

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https://imgur.com/E0eSGgD
I'm Joe Biden, and I... what?
https://i.imgur.com/E0eSGgD.png

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[04-Mar-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
> It would be cute if they let him think he won the presidental race somehow then moved him into a hospice decorated like the White House.


[04-Mar-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gop-blocking-coronavirus-bill-because-it-limits-how-much-drugmakers-can-charge-for-a-vaccine-report/

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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gop-blocking-coronavirus-bill-because-it-limits-how-much-drugmakers-can-charge-for-a-vaccine-report/
GOP blocking coronavirus bill — because it limits how much drugmake...
On Tuesday, Politico reported that GOP lawmakers are holding up a bipartisan emergency funding bill to provide treatment and research for coronavirus. The main reason? They object to a provision that prevents drug manufacturers from overcharging the government for any vaccines...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Senate-Majority-Leader-Mitch-McConnell.jpg

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[04-Mar-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can someone please strangle mcconnell where he stands?


[04-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/
Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie San...
Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/03/04/USAT/17c2bdca-d6a0-432c-ab31-b038f582e8ec-GTY_1203739735.JPG?crop=4961,2791,x0,y252&width=3200&height=1801&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[04-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
> Exit polls for several states Biden won, including  Massachusetts, Texas and a number of southern states that helped catapult the former vice president into front-runner status, found that while more young voters went to the polls this election cycle, they did not show up at the rate they did in 2016.
> 
> In Virginia, for example, more than 1.3 million voters cast ballots compared to the roughly 800,000 four years ago. But exit polls on Super Tuesday showed that the share of young voters as a percentage of the entire electorate declined in the Old Dominion, diminishing their influence as a voting bloc.


[04-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-may-have-just-qualified-for-the-next-democratic-debate-thanks-to-american-samoa/ar-BB10HVDE

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-may-have-just-qualified-for-the-next-democratic-debate-thanks-to-american-samoa/ar-BB10HVDE
Tulsi Gabbard may have just qualified for the next Democratic debat...
By securing a delegate in American Samoa, Tulsi Gabbard may have qualified for the next Democratic debate under DNC rules.


[04-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/485936-no-time-to-die-release-postponed-amid-coronavirus-fears#

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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/485936-no-time-to-die-release-postponed-amid-coronavirus-fears
'No Time to Die' release postponed amid coronavirus fears
The release of the latest installment in the James Bond movie franchise is reportedly being pushed back amid fears of the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/craigdaniel_03042020getty.jpg


[04-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People were shaken, not stirred


[04-Mar-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
has anyone figured out why the polls were so incongruous with the results of super tuesday?


[04-Mar-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
young people were discouraged from voting is the main thing I hear


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not so sure there was widespread polling error though


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
discouraged by who


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
long waits in line


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
employment or schooling


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
oh


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
stuff like that


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
couldn't get transportation to polling places


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
etc


[04-Mar-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
things boomers don't have to deal with


[04-Mar-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
and, 538 skyrocketing Biden's odds was well predicted by polling the night before


[04-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
well yeah, that was because of all the moderates dropping


[04-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
"No one" is 61% atm


[04-Mar-20 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Plurality odds


[04-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/2nd-presumed-case-coronavirus-new-hampshire/2085211/

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Asher Klein
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/2nd-presumed-case-coronavirus-new-hampshire/2085211/
NH's 1st Coronavirus Patient, Told to Stay Isolated, Went to Event,...
A second person is presumed to have the new coronavirus in New Hampshire, state health officials said Tuesday. They also said the first coronavirus patient “attended an invitation-only private event on Friday” despite being told to stay isolated.
https://media.nbcboston.com/2019/09/Coronavirus-bacteria.jpg?fit=754%2C425


[04-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
murica


[04-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
> New Hampshire's first coronavirus patient, a hospital employee, went to an event tied to Dartmouth business school on Friday despite being told to stay isolated, officials say, and all others who went to the event are now being told to stay isolated.


[04-Mar-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking hell


[04-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
late to the party, but, rip Bloomberg dream.


[04-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
well, at least he tried being a presidential candidate. Not quite the same.


[04-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
is bloomberg's campaign the least cost effective in history


[04-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
most likely, yes.


[04-Mar-20 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Over half a billion spent and quit a day after the first votes


[04-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
he had fun doing it, and the money went to the people so, it could be worse.


[04-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
also re: Poland.


[04-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I always knew that half of the native poles believe in things like pogroms assisting natural selection (as well as their own recent history ultimately being beneficial I bet), and the other half listening to/creating black metal and hoping the Old Gods would come and cleanse the Earth.


[04-Mar-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/delegate-count?icid=election_embed&cid=mob_npd_nn_ios_mar

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2020 Delegate Count | Democratic and Republican Primary Results
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[04-Mar-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
ANALYSIS: Super Tuesday's silver lining for Trump https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/super-tuesday-s-silver-lining-trump-democratic-race-far-over-n1149186

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Analysis: Super Tuesday's silver lining for Trump
Analysis: The night delivered some worrisome signs for the president's fall hopes — but at least one potential boon: the potential for extended Democratic division.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_10/3255211/200303-donald-trump-cs-1205a_a4e9f1459a6ebe0d77801b9f198c4ee3.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[04-Mar-20 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
> New Hampshire's first coronavirus patient, a hospital employee, went to an event tied to Dartmouth business school on Friday despite being told to stay isolated
Given courses costs a thousand dollars (for me), I can see why they be reluctant to stay isolated for 2 weeks


[04-Mar-20 08:26 PM] illumnious#7938

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[04-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, found a guy in another server who is saying that he voted Trump just cause he didn't like voting the lesser evil, and this time he'll sit things out if Bernie doesn't win.


[04-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, fukk American attitudes on voting.


[04-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, so hard.


[04-Mar-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't vote the lesser evil, vote the stronger evil! it;s natural selection!


[04-Mar-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Got a feeling what he really wants is like, "Libertarian" candidates.


[04-Mar-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he sees Hillary as the ultimate evil of wanting big gov't to stop racism


[04-Mar-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
with Bernie being seen as good because "well he's not racist, but at least he'd weaken the gov't"


[04-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html

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WHO says coronavirus death rate is 3.4% globally, higher than previ...
World health officials say the death rate for COVID-19 is 3.4% globally, higher than previous estimates of about 2%.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106422751-1583267377071rts34lf2.jpg?v=1583268391


[04-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
apparently biden winning super tuesday caused the stocks to rise


[04-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
currently at +905


[04-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Opponent#3498
he's the sign of stability.


[04-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump is a mistake and a wild card. Bernie is also a wild card, for different reasons.


[04-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
Biden is something people understand.


[04-Mar-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, a candidate who will do nothing, and fight nothing while america burns down!


[04-Mar-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but that's irrelevant for financists


[04-Mar-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
at least, the second part is.


[04-Mar-20 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's exactly what they want though,  it means he'll stay out of their way


[04-Mar-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
basicly, a candidate that will do nothing is the ideal.


[04-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Yuri#4154
America, the fuck are you doing


[04-Mar-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burning


[04-Mar-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are burning


[04-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
basically the young people aren't capable of turning out in enough numbers to counter the dying old people


[04-Mar-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay for hostile work enforcement


[04-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/

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Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie San...
Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016.
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[04-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Yuri#4154
I wish I could say I'm surprised


[04-Mar-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me too


[04-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
At least Bloomberg's out.


[04-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie has a chance when he's just got Biden to beat up on.


[04-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gabbard at next debate will be annoying of course.


[04-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but Warren will most certainly be helping beat Biden.


[04-Mar-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i keep forgetting gabbard exists


[04-Mar-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gabbard is a damn parasite.


[04-Mar-20 09:25 PM] Yuri#4154
She's present


[04-Mar-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gabbard is pro-fascism.


[04-Mar-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, was she the oen who voted "present" at the impeachment hearing?


[04-Mar-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or am i thinking someone else?


[04-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
She has supported India's PM


[04-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
the one who is deliberately enabling anti-Muslim pogroms.


[04-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
and trying to strip Muslims of citizenship.


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
> basically the young people aren't capable of turning out in enough numbers to counter the dying old people
I'm just really curious when will young people vote, or will democracy die with the boomers


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't she also support some Hindu terrorist group


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you mean Modi's party.


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem isnt that they dont want to vote, it;s that their jobs and schools are holding them hostage and refusing thme voting time


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The paramilitary wing, yes


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what I mean about that.


[04-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You shouldn't think of them as separate entities.


[04-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
India's PM is directly enabling the pogroms on purpose.


[04-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is what he bases his party on.


[04-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gabbard thinks it's great.


[04-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Yuri#4154
I can't wait for Tulsi to suspend her presidential campaign on her deathbed in 2075


[04-Mar-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's running because trump isnt an effective enough dictator and she must become a much better one!


[04-Mar-20 09:30 PM] Yuri#4154
She went from 15th place to 4th


[04-Mar-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gabbard 2020: a better fascist for america


[04-Mar-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just surprised the US hasn't become full blown Christian facist by now


[04-Mar-20 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s trying


[04-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Yuri#4154
Give it time


[04-Mar-20 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/kyttenjanae/status/1234894734738386944?s=20

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[04-Mar-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-stock-market-joe-biden-gains-investors-dont-like-victory-2020-3

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Trump claims investors 'don't like Joe,' even as stocks post huge g...
Trump claimed investors on Wall Street 'don't like Joe,' though stocks posted huge gains only a day after Biden's huge victories on Super Tuesda...
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[04-Mar-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/paid-sick-leave-coronavirus-states-barred-local-governments-prevent-spread-2020-3

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Paid sick leave could help prevent the spread of coronavirus — but ...
The lack of sick pay increases the odds that people will work while ill during the coronavirus outbreak since they can't afford a smaller paycheck.
https://i.insider.com/5e5fe684fee23d3b1a5784c3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.businessinsider.com/universities-cancel-study-abroad-programs-italy-coronavirus-cases-spike-2020-2

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US universities are canceling study abroad programs in Italy and ur...
COVID-19 has infected more than 320 people in Italy and killed 12, prompting officials to put entire towns on lockdown.
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[04-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486007-schumer-warns-kavanaugh-and-gorsuch-they-will-pay-the-price

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Schumer warns Kavanaugh and Gorsuch they will 'pay the price'
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said the two Trump-appointed conservative Supreme Court justices “will pay the price” for “awful decisions” in abortion rights cases.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schumercharles_022520gn_lead.jpg


[04-Mar-20 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
why would you say that


[04-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Corruption.


[04-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's telling them that Dems are gonna win the election and liberals with principles won't actually take over


[04-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
so he'll make sure that the DNC gets its way and becomes like the GOP


[04-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it was a "We'll try to impeach you two if you get out of line more"


[04-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or "We'll make your lives hellish, so resign so Biden can replace you"


[04-Mar-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not something you should even think about saying to a judge


[04-Mar-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
even one illegitimately elected


[04-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it's shitty.


[04-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/03/wuhan-is-beautiful-wuhan-gave-me-life-berea-midpark-grad-calls-for-empathy-during-coronavirus-outbreak.html

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‘Wuhan is beautiful. Wuhan gave me life': Berea-Midpark grad calls ...
Chen Chen is from Middleburg Heights. To her, Northeast Ohio is home. But so is China. She encourages others to empathize with those in Wuhan battling the coronavirus outbreak.
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[04-Mar-20 11:13 PM] jlun2#8758
>  As the federal government attempts to contain the outbreak of coronavirus in the US, the issue of paid sick leave will gain additional urgency as a possible policy tool to prevent its further spread.
I seriously doubt it will change.


[04-Mar-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wont, employers dont give a fuck, employees are expendable


[04-Mar-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if one employee get;s unworkably sick, they'll fire thme AND REPLACE thme with a desperate teenager


[04-Mar-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
do they even hire teenagers now?


[04-Mar-20 11:24 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought you need a degree for everything


[04-Mar-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of companies do because teenagers arent as cought up on labor laws as adults are


[04-Mar-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
the point of degree requirements is to create artificial scarcity


[04-Mar-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the teenagers thing applies mroe to the service industry and retail


[04-Mar-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now watch the corona virus spread through fast food


[04-Mar-20 11:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) the coworkers I have in retail all have degrees so :shrugpony:


[04-Mar-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, degrees dont really work so well when no one in those fields is hiring anymore


[04-Mar-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most hvac companies here are family owned which means they rarely hire outsiders for much mroe than basic assistance


[04-Mar-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i have to imagine this is the case for a lot of other rural degree type jobs


[04-Mar-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if boeing needs people deployed to hvac facilities they just insource and deploy already hired ;people to nearby locations


[04-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bloomberg-lost-but-he-may-still-get-what-he-wanted/

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Bloomberg Lost, But He May Still Get What He Wanted
Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg spent more than $400 million on television commercials alone during his ultimately brief 2020 presidential campaign. He …
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[04-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, his real plan was to keep Warren and Bernie from weakening Biden.


[04-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was a decoy that will now be in position to keep Biden on-message.


[04-Mar-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
so 4 more years of getting fucked by boomers?


[04-Mar-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly.


[04-Mar-20 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/BrazilianReport/status/1235207760607932418?s=19

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After news of the poor peformance of BR's GDP in 2019, @jairbolsonaro brought a comedian dressed as the president to stand in his place during a press briefing. Mr. Bolsonaro refused to answer questions about GDP figures. The comedian gave out BANANAS to journalists in attend...
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[04-Mar-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Uuuh


[05-Mar-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
searching for "boomer decline rate" gave me this 
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/
to whoever was talking about it yesturday

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The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake
The family structure we’ve held up as the cultural ideal for the past half century has been a catastrophe for many. It’s time to figure out better ways to live together.
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[05-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Midknight#9798
I can agree with that. Multigenerational households are far more economical for everything from child care to food preparation to basic home maintenance


[05-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Midknight#9798
*~says this as a single homeowner well aware of how much time and money two out of three of those take and avoids the third~*


[05-Mar-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1235352750004875265?s=19

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NEW: Top surrogates and allies of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are discussing ways for their two camps to unite and push a common liberal agenda, with the expectation Warren is likely to leave the presidential race soon. From @AnnieLinskey @WaPoSean https://t.co/9K11rs...
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[05-Mar-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Took her long enough


[05-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should've happened two days ago.


[05-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Better late than never, tho.


[05-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Honahue#0656
nice, my guess was Warren was going to stay in to try and spliut voters with Bernie then drop out and get a VP spot from Biden, Biden actually wanted a jar of applesauce to be his VP but his handlers picked Warren


[05-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JoGonx/status/1235356927451856896

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https://twitter.com/JoGonx/status/1235356927451856896
@mviser @AnnieLinskey @WaPoSean I'm muting this. #SanderTrash equates any criticism w not caring. In their cult minds, it's impossible to not like Bernie. Everyone should be in love w him. Well, I'm not. I love Warren. I love her policies and I'm sick of #BernieCult demonizin...
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[05-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
lmao wtf


[05-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think what happened is Biden rejected any idea of a Warren VP.


[05-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
why are the "warren only" supporters so toxic


[05-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're people who believe that change is needed, but billionnaires need protecting.


[05-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're essentially conservatives that hav realized that outright conservatism will get the rich lynched.


[05-Mar-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, the more i look at American politics, the more i'm convinced there is no other way to fix it than through brute force tbh


[05-Mar-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Trump gets reelected, which is likely, we'll see either dictatorship or civil war


[05-Mar-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe both


[05-Mar-20 01:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> outright conservatism will get the rich lynched.
cant they just escape to mars or something


[05-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Midknight#9798
"Here, have a side of bananers with your republic!"


[05-Mar-20 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's no fucking way America can continue functioning like this


[05-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Escaping to Mars isn't realistic within a century.


[05-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people want it anyways.


[05-Mar-20 01:23 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm rather surprised only a handful of billionaires actually thought of that, and most others just decided to bunker down in new Zealand instead


[05-Mar-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america literally cannot continue to function liek this, which is the point, conservatives basically want to play the locust game


[05-Mar-20 01:24 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm guessing they time it so that they'll "die from old age" at the same time they eat up all the resources?


[05-Mar-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[05-Mar-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/snykk6r

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Is this your king?!
https://i.imgur.com/C2k1W2lh.jpg


[05-Mar-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
pedo boomer


[05-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Midknight#9798
naw, just boomer from a day when "baby-kissing politician" was a literal thing that was expected


[05-Mar-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
baby sniffing*


[05-Mar-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
covid giving


[05-Mar-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mmmm new baby smell


[05-Mar-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
do republicans ever get sick


[05-Mar-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but they have they hve corporate medics to treat them while the news doesnt hear much about it


[05-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Midknight#9798
all the time. Cheney was called Darth Vader for a reason


[05-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
rumor is, somewhere they preserved justice scalia's brain and any day now they will have him be the first computer ai justice.


[05-Mar-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah it died due to a nasty computer virus


[05-Mar-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their over reliance on norton antivirus really backfired at that point


[05-Mar-20 01:32 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/85br3d/til_that_back_in_1979_a_cryonics_company_which/
that's risky

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[05-Mar-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-john-roberts-rebukes-chuck-schumer-threatening-statements-2020-3

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Chief Justice John Roberts issues a rare rebuke at Democrats' 'dang...
Chief Justice John Roberts said he knew "that criticism comes with the territory" but that Sen. Chuck Schumer remarks were out of line.
https://i.insider.com/5e602742fee23d15c33ef763?width=1200&format=jpeg


[05-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I agree, but he didn't say this when Trump attacked Sotomayor and Ginsburg.


[05-Mar-20 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1235360362163326976?s=21

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[05-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Headline: "GOP senator to try to censure Schumer over SCOTUS remark"


[05-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Without looking it up, guess which one


[05-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's one of the top choices for 2024, that's your hint


[05-Mar-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
Pence?


[05-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, graham?


[05-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nunes?


[05-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, senator.


[05-Mar-20 03:52 AM] jlun2#8758
ted cruz?


[05-Mar-20 03:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> 
> As they took the stage at the cavernous Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center, the cast of potential 2024 hopefuls had different objectives. Some used their speaking time to trumpet the need to reelect the president and to echo an emerging Republican theme of 2020 that's enraptured attendees: The threat of a socialist takeover.
:ponythinking:


[05-Mar-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
so yea scary commie phobia shit still alive


[05-Mar-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm way too young, so does anyone know if anyone during the red scare got PTSD over commies?


[05-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(The senator is Josh Hawley, btw)


[05-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of these people are dumb if they think 2024 will be anything but a race of Jr., Haley, Nunes, and Jordan


[05-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not Nunes.


[05-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nunes is under investigation, shit will turn up.


[05-Mar-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
never heard of any of them except JR


[05-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Haley was UN ambassador and part of the GOP "haha dumb libs we got the first female president" schtick


[05-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haley can't make it in a primary


[05-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd be gone after the first debate.


[05-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP hates women, remember.


[05-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And she isn't intense.


[05-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican primary 2024, 1st debate is gonna be like: Graham, Jordan, Cain, Gianforte, Haley


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Last two drop by debate 3


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hermain Cain?


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really?


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he'd drop by debate 5


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly they'd hav some Trump replacement, and maybe Cruz.


[05-Mar-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
how the hell did schumer "threaten violence"?


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hawley could be the Trump replacement


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
that's blown way out of proportion


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah.


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be an outsider, Its.


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone not already in office.


[05-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who runs businesses.


[05-Mar-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
Jr?


[05-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Koch brother?


[05-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of them isn't dead, right


[05-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too old.


[05-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also way too liberal.


[05-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be Bloomberg before Koch.


[05-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Peter Thiel maybe?


[05-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro


[05-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too young.


[05-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also not tied close enuff to Trump.


[05-Mar-20 04:03 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought Peter was going to new zealand


[05-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder if another Republican win will drive people away from churches faster?


[05-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich can go wherever they want.


[05-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
or nah make it illegal to quit religion or something


[05-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.gq.com/story/obama-to-biden-dont-run

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Obama Repeatedly Tried to Get Biden Not to Run for President
The former president is reportedly worried Biden will "embarrass himself."
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[05-Mar-20 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and because Biden didn't listen, Obama is responsible for the coronavirus. Somehow


[05-Mar-20 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know I didn't catch what Trump was going on about


[05-Mar-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486055-sanders-says-biden-winning-african-american-support-by-running-with-his

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Sanders says Biden winning African American support by 'running wit...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Wednesday that his Democratic presidential primary opponent former Vice President Joe Biden is winning African American voters' support by running on his ties to President Obama.
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[05-Mar-20 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-04/house-democrats-request-secret-service-for-presidential-hopefuls


[05-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
> House Democrats requested Secret Service protection Wednesday for presidential candidates amid security concerns after a group of protesters stormed the stage at a Joe Biden campaign event on Tuesday.
> 
> “I urge you to immediately initiate the consultation process to determine whether to provide USSS protection to certain major Democratic presidential candidates,” Representative Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, wrote in a letter Wednesday that specifically mentions Biden and Bernie Sanders.


[05-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
bernie gets his stage stormed every other gathering


[05-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
I see biden's another coward


[05-Mar-20 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
watch, the secret service will unwittingly have coronavirus

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[05-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Opponent#3498
that would be **amazing**


[05-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
why?


[05-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Opponent#3498
the ultimate irony.


[05-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I love little quirks of life like that.


[05-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
well, maybe not the _ultimate_, but still :D


[05-Mar-20 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
"only" 2% rate tho, so I doubt any politician will be affected much


[05-Mar-20 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's over 3.6% now


[05-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkCNI1yDNM

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Tucker: Are we sure America won't elect a socialist?
Tucker Carlson takes a look at Bernie Sanders' radical proposals. #FoxNews #Tucker

FOX News operates the FOX News Channel (FNC), FOX Business Network (FBN), FOX News Radio, FOX News Headlines 24/7, FOXNews.com and the direct-to-consumer streaming service, FOX Nation. FOX News...
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[05-Mar-20 06:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Given that young people don't vote, yes I'm completely sure.


[05-Mar-20 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also given that there are 0 actual socialists in the running

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[05-Mar-20 07:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/A8Ltocg2CQVOMd6IIbvrtng

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Trump: Botched Coronavirus Response Is Obama’s Fault — New York Mag...
All news events fall into three categories: We’re Winning, Hoax, or Obama’s fault.
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[05-Mar-20 12:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Mar-20 01:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://orinocotribune.com/voter-suppression-plain-and-simple-texas-closed-hundreds-of-polling-sites-in-black-and-latino-areas/

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"Voter Suppression, Plain and Simple": Texas Closed Hundreds of Pol...
Texas has shuttered more polling places than any other state since 2012 and most of the closures disproportionately hit black and Latino areas, according to a new analysis by The Guardian. Texas has c
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[05-Mar-20 01:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
funny how the states Biden has been doing well in are also GOP controlled states where voting rights are being systematically dismanted


[05-Mar-20 01:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
hands in each others' pockets


[05-Mar-20 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/486063-court-blocks-trump-administrations-remain-in-mexico-plan

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Court blocks Trump administration's 'Remain in Mexico' plan
A federal appeals court on Wednesday blocked President Trump’s administration’s “Remain in Mexico” plan for asylum-seekers to stay in the country while their case plays out in U.S.
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[05-Mar-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/486003-senate-seeks-massive-permanent-boost-in-conservation-funding

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Senate seeks massive permanent boost in conservation funding
Conservation funding would get a dramatic boost under a coming bill from a bipartisan group of senators following
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[05-Mar-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/67a5f1559c0c052ea43a9f775204b596

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Global markets slide again on enduring concern over virus
NEW YORK (AP) — And back down goes the U.S. stock market.  The S&P 500 sank more than 2% in early trading Thursday as the market swung back to fear about the effects of a fast-spreading...
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[05-Mar-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
crash me harder daddy UwU


[05-Mar-20 04:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6qy_9E0rY

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Mojoblitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6qy_9E0rY
Bernie Sanders 8 1/2 hour Filibuster but it's Lofi
Bernie Sanders beats to study to/start a revolution to
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[05-Mar-20 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Bitch gone https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/politics/elizabeth-warren-drops-out/index.html

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Elizabeth Warren is ending her presidential campaign
Elizabeth Warren is dropping out of the presidential race, a source familiar with her plans tells CNN, following another round of disappointing finishes in primary contests across the country on Super Tuesday.
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[05-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Finally


[05-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey, she killed Bloomberg with her own two hands


[05-Mar-20 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Without that he might've gotten over the 15% mark in a lot of places


[05-Mar-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://i.redd.it/4fgy0kwv0sk41.png

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[05-Mar-20 04:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Too many ads killed him, not her


[05-Mar-20 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lol


[05-Mar-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/zi1a6jpjkvk41.png

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[05-Mar-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
down to 3 (2) now


[05-Mar-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden, Sanders, Gabbard


[05-Mar-20 04:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is gabbard


[05-Mar-20 04:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She got a delegate and might be on the debate on the 15th


[05-Mar-20 04:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's gonna be dumb


[05-Mar-20 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
Gabbard D:


[05-Mar-20 04:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So if Trump wins she can switch easily


[05-Mar-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Gabbard is running as a joke candidate


[05-Mar-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
she got pretty fucking far for a joke candidate


[05-Mar-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I realise that in large part it's just stubborness and unwillingness to mitigate the damage, but still


[05-Mar-20 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
Jeb! of the Death Camp


[05-Mar-20 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
the candidate US deserves :D


[05-Mar-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/95uwwfio5pk41.png

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[05-Mar-20 05:29 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-Mar-20 05:29 PM] ononim#8141
the TRUE political compass


[05-Mar-20 05:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this reminds me. anyone here seen Look Who's Back?


[05-Mar-20 05:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it deals with a resurrected Hitler in modern times. 
interesting film


[05-Mar-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
_Dr. Dre starts playing_


[05-Mar-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Guess who's back~


[05-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/grand-princess-passengers-ordered-rooms-after-coronavirus-death-2020-3

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Carnival crisis grows after another Princess cruise ship goes on lo...
Passengers on Princess Cruises' Grand Princess ship have been told to stay in their rooms while they wait to get screened for the coronavirus.
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[05-Mar-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Never go on a cruise ever


[05-Mar-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-bans-conversion-therapy-for-lgbtq-children/

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Virginia bans conversion therapy for LGBTQ children
Gov. Ralph Northam, a pediatric neurologist, said he was proud to sign the bill into law.
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[05-Mar-20 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Mar-20 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
whiplash


[05-Mar-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not whiplash


[05-Mar-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
they're down to elevating the underlings to their level, with the understanding that those are inferior but that it is irrelevant.


[05-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, 538's piece on Warren not being able to win claims she pushed Sanders left.


[05-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
People really want to hold on to the fiction that Warren lost because she was DA MOST PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATE EVA


[05-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that the Dem establishment just couldn't handle her yet.


[05-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, no you dumb fukk, Warren lost because she started waffling on everything just as she'd carved out a niche of being Bernie-lite.


[05-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
She made liberals into Bernie stop trusting her at the same time as she made conservatives furious.


[05-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man if she endorses Biden wew


[05-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's probably what the Hollywood types that were the only ones wanting her in the end want.


[05-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll say "she had a good run" and that "Biden has the foresight to accomplish her goals"


[05-Mar-20 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even as Biden literally can't get thru a sentence.


[05-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
When she endorses Bernie, they'll be completely dazed and confused.


[05-Mar-20 06:32 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder if Biden has Alzheimer's


[05-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Faust is one of those Hollywood types btw the only difference is well


[05-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She isn't this bad


[05-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JasonOverstreet/status/1235351368111509505

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https://twitter.com/JasonOverstreet/status/1235351368111509505
My heart tells me that Elizabeth Warren should go to that debate still and show one last time just how unconscionably effing stupid America is for not picking the gladiator woman instead of the tired-ass geezers.
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[05-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure she thinks it though


[05-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like these people can't even see Bernie.


[05-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But don't you trust that he said a mean thing to her once?


[05-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just go "who's that? Some old guy? Whatever." and look at Warren while he speaks.


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think most of them even care about that.


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why don't you trust the woman who lied about her heritage to get into law school?


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then lied about it for decades?


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You must be sexist


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just think Warren's some special savior.


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only the WOOMYN can save us etc.


[05-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine if some of them vote Gabbard.


[05-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The same people in that group also think she's a Russian plant or something.


[05-Mar-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
man no do good, woomyn do most better than man, man tried failed


[05-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
SURELY WYMYNZ R PURE, GABBARD MUST BE PLANT


[05-Mar-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486117-schumer-walks-back-words-he-used-on-supreme-court-justices

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Schumer walks back words he used on Supreme Court justices
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on Thursday that he "shouldn't have used the words" he did when he said that two Supreme Court justices would "pay the price" for their decisions on abortion rights cases.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/schumerchuck_021120bc_web.jpg


[05-Mar-20 06:38 PM] jlun2#8758
can't we all just get along and bash boomers instead


[05-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Roberts is a hypocrite.


[05-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's trying to keep the Court neutral but said nothing when Trump criticized Sotomayor and Ginsberg


[05-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
A fascism classic


[05-Mar-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
You make big talk of neutrality and such, but only when the undesirables are speaking out.


[05-Mar-20 06:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-idUSKBN20P1LO

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Coronavirus spreading fast outside China, airports to increase scre...
The new coronavirus appears to now be spreading much more rapidly outside China ...
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[05-Mar-20 06:42 PM] jlun2#8758
pls free up some jobs


[05-Mar-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486121-new-white-house-survey-questions-potential-employees-about-trumps

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New White House survey questions potential employees about Trump's ...
The White House is using a new survey to question potential employees abou
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[05-Mar-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/485996-trump-to-award-medal-of-freedom-to-retired-gen-jack-keane

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Trump to award Medal of Freedom to retired Gen. Jack Keane
President Trump will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jack Keane, a retired four-star Army general and senior strategic analyst for Fox News, the White House said Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/keanejack_1.jpg


[05-Mar-20 06:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
I am here to announce milk is for bougie children and thus illegal.


[05-Mar-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
VIVA LA MILK


[05-Mar-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/angle-milk-kurt-gif-8146001

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[05-Mar-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938
that's the news https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/men-washing-hands-coronavirus/?os=dd

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https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/men-washing-hands-coronavirus/?os=dd
In the wake of the coronavirus, men are finally washing their hands
Men react to washing their hands.
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[05-Mar-20 07:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
I work food service, I have to


[05-Mar-20 07:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious I'm a male and I wash my hands, and is baffled why doing so is considered "unmanly"


[05-Mar-20 07:09 PM] illumnious#7938
true


[05-Mar-20 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If your hands don't smell like rancid meat and salt and carry a layer of grease and soot, you're not really a man

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[05-Mar-20 07:25 PM] ononim#8141
>when washing your ass is "gay"


[05-Mar-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I wash my ass and my homie's ass too


[05-Mar-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not gay


[05-Mar-20 07:26 PM] ononim#8141
Truly the reason why infidel scum shall fell before sodliers of Allah, inshallah


[05-Mar-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
having hygeine means you're a filthy nordesman and must be eradicated!


[05-Mar-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren not to immediately endorse anyone


[05-Mar-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she endorses herself for the new title of executive prime minister of total control


[05-Mar-20 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/577408/

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https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/577408/
Millennials Didn’t Kill the Economy. The Economy Killed Millennials.
The American system has thrown them into debt, depressed their wages, kept them from buying homes—and then blamed them for everything.
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[05-Mar-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-every-decent-job-require-a-college-degree-nowadays-How-did-we-run-anything-50-years-ago-with-all-those-uneducated-plebs-in-charge
> uneducated plebs
lmao

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Why does every decent job require a college degree nowadays? How di...
It’s a big meme. We could get by largely on OJT, certifications and whatnot for a lot of jobs. There is certainly a push to specialization, but I see tons of jobs where they require a college degree but they don’t care which one you have. Which is...


[05-Mar-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Mar-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
perfection.


[05-Mar-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/486162-barr-five-eyes-nations-introduce-principles-on-child-sexual-exploitation

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Barr, 'Five Eyes' nations introduce principles on online child sexu...
Attorney General William Barr and representatives from the "Five Eyes" intelligence-sharing network on Thursday introduced a set of voluntary principles aimed at combatting online child sexual exploitation.
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[05-Mar-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure anyone who was friends with epstein should be anywhere near soemthing like this


[05-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure that more 'think of the children' internet regulations need to be suggested, Epstein or not.


[05-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
in fact, I'm sure they shouldn't.


[05-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing good ever came of it.


[05-Mar-20 08:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent I'm not convinced  politicians even know what internet is.


[05-Mar-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
saw a guy wearing a thin blue line tshirt


[05-Mar-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
he looks like one of those pictures you would get if you searched up 'redneck'


[05-Mar-20 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
THREE HOUSES AND A MILLIONAIRE
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[05-Mar-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
"Your Honor, my client is not guilty. The evidence shows he was clearly white"


[05-Mar-20 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
chair covered with random clothes the realy MVP


[05-Mar-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486147-senate-passes-83-billion-coronavirus-bill-sending-it-to-trump

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Senate passes $8.3 billion coronavirus bill, sending it to Trump
The Senate on Thursday easily passed more than $8 billion in funding to fight the coronavirus, sending the measure to President Trump, who is expected to sign it.
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[05-Mar-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aaaaand vetoed


[05-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
“Hey wait, this bill isn’t for increasing military spending!”


[05-Mar-20 09:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What happened with the pharmaceutical pricing thing mcturtle shot down?


[05-Mar-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably told mcconnell to put up or shut up


[05-Mar-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely didnt have enough votes to block the bill


[05-Mar-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It just says "may" be affordable. Which means not affordable.


[05-Mar-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bill did face one final hurdle on Thursday in the form of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). The libertarian-minded GOP senator wanted to use money from foreign aid accounts to offset the billions in coronavirus spending, but senators easily set aside his amendment. Paul was the lone senator to vote against the final measure Thursday.

"I think that we should not let fear or urgency cause us to lose our minds," Paul said ahead of the vote, "and cause us to act in an irresponsible fashion."


[05-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chikkenshit milquetoast bill.


[05-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It givs the executive control over shit.


[05-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't actually say to make it affordable


[05-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
just that the executive can do whatever the fukk it wants.


[05-Mar-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, heaven forbid they *lose* money preventing a million deaths


[05-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This bill is the kind of shit that should see Republicans killed.


[05-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking traitors to the country.


[05-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're gonna cause the coronavirus to hit us harder than any other western nation.


[05-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because OH NO MEDICARE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR SHIT?


[05-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude


[05-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are screwed come next year.


[05-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a doctor that'd been working on a vaccine for SARS


[05-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And couldn't get funding


[05-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When COVID-19 kicked off, he started calling pharma companies again


[05-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And one of them literally answered that they were waiting to see if it would be something they could capitalize on year after year


[05-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[05-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/scientists-were-close-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago-then-money-dried-n1150091

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Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the ...
"We just could not generate much interest," a researcher said of the difficulty in getting funding to test the vaccine in humans.
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[05-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[05-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
3.6% is the current estimated average lethality of COVID-19


[05-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is very bad.


[05-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's 100 million deaths if 40% of the word's population gets it.


[05-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah...


[05-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But hey, it's no worse than the flu, really, some people catch it and they're fine, they go to work and it's fine. Also don't cancel your travel plans, everything is fine!


[05-Mar-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it works like the gay, if you pray, it goes away


[05-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine how hilarious it'll be if a floor trader starts coughing


[05-Mar-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell starts coughing and then shit gets real, real fucking fast


[05-Mar-20 10:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
gaetz will be ok


[05-Mar-20 10:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so long as no one puts a hand over his gas filter


[05-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or puts a tripwire in the capitol


[05-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I guarantee Wall Street will close


[05-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You will hav multiple people on the floor coffing and sneezing everywhere.


[05-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Within a week, millionnaire Boomers will be in hospitals.


[05-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, this spreading to the Senate is...very likely too.


[05-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what's going on over in Iran.


[05-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their whole gov't is getting infected.


[05-Mar-20 10:13 PM] jlun2#8758
i doubt any of them will die


[05-Mar-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm going to assume my college will close in emergency at some point


[05-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh some of them will die


[05-Mar-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well none of the republicans will die, but maybe a democrat or 2 just to give a middle finger to america


[05-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell dying before November is not out of the question at this point.


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus hits HARD and FAST in old people.


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine they'll all just bunker up


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are a lot of old guys in congress, so...


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bunkering up means whoever goes to the Senate can pass bills


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prepare for that ride


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you aren't there, you don't get a vote.


[05-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Republicans get overly infected, Democrats can pass bills.


[05-Mar-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
> Instead, the SARS vaccine that Hotez's team created in collaboration with scientists at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston is sitting in a freezer, no closer to commercial production than it was four years ago.
I'm not really convinced much University research ever becomes a commercial product.


[05-Mar-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
great PHD material tho


[05-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most research happens at universities


[05-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's where there's money for initial research without the absolute need for profit


[05-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine this is what does it


[05-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
massive epidemic comes in


[05-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats gain a temporary edge, immediately pass healthcare reform to make testing and vaccines free and eliminate all kinds of shitty insurer behavior


[05-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time any of it kikks in, it's too late for the Senate to really benefit off it


[05-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
absolute mess.


[05-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump vetos the first bill but gets called out, second he signs.


[05-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the while, coffing as he talks about how Democrats manufactured the virus with China


[05-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
vetoes the second and cries deep state takeover and martial law, more like xD


[05-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
(he survives, of course)


[05-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if he's having literal fits and tantrums over the market stalling now


[05-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely.


[05-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, just yelling at Pence to go out and say everything's going to be great, throwing the remote at a wall while watching Bloomberg


[05-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chekk his twitter and you'll likely see some of it.


[05-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
Number small, HOW IS NUMBER SMALL??? It's those damn commies, no doubt.


[05-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21164977/trump-jeff-sessions-alabama-senate-obstruction-of-justice

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Trump’s latest attack on Jeff Sessions inadvertently confirms one o...
Oops.
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[05-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if he catches someone in the white house wearing a mask


[05-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like it


[05-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump usually admits guilt to a crime when he's falling apart.


[05-Mar-20 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually, Trump's been blaming Obama for this


[05-Mar-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
re coronavirus


[05-Mar-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's been blaming everyone


[05-Mar-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tomorrow he'll turn on pence and say pence prayed it into existance to spite his relationship with god or soemthing


[05-Mar-20 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well there was this https://deadstate.org/christian-prophet-weather-controlling-democrats-caused-tennessee-tornado-to-sabotage-bernie-sanders/

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Christian prophet: ‘Weather controlling’ Democrats caused Tennessee...
Mark Taylor likes to call himself the “Firefighter Prophet” and he’s known for making unusual predictions — claiming that President Donald Trump will uncover cures for Alzheimer’s and cancer if he’s reelected and that Jimmy Carter’s black eye is a sign of the Illuminati. But n...
https://deadstate.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/mark-taylor.jpeg


[05-Mar-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because *apparently* Alex Jones just isn't enough crazy for one world


[05-Mar-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
> Policymakers have responded by cutting interest rates to prop up economic growth. They are expected to do so again, but the sell-off reflects in part the fact that lower interest rates will not address the immediate impact of the virus if factories are closed, workers are furloughed and consumers stop spending.


[05-Mar-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
how about the fact that wall street has told policymakers that they _dont want rate cuts_


[05-Mar-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
does anyone in the government have a goddamn brain


[05-Mar-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/fdu6g7/its_expensive_to_get_raped/

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r/TwoXChromosomes - Its expensive to get raped
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[05-Mar-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
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you literally cannot make this shit up
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[05-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people who promote the "boner culture" meme unironically


[05-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People like that are morons, and legion


[05-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The gamergate thread is teeming with them


[05-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ok, coomer" ends their arguments


[05-Mar-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of agree though.


[05-Mar-20 11:50 PM] Opponent#3498
at least with this specific thread.


[05-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Opponent#3498
not everything has to be a commentary, but some things very obviously are, at the cost of everything else.


[05-Mar-20 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
similarily, literary analysis helps understand why the author produced some unspeakable horror, but is unhelpful if you're trying to use a story recreationally.


[05-Mar-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I've been asked once, 'you read so much different crap, don't you simply... see the tropes people use etc?'


[05-Mar-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
to which I responded that, if I focus on that, the story stops being a world and becomes a math formula. Of course, many fail to show a world with any sort of clarity, in which case nothing of value is lost, but still.


[06-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are the people that saw optional, must know it's there and work for it, gay romances in Mass Effect or Dragon's Age, as "pushing politics"


[06-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Games that were fucking overflowing with blunt as fuck political topics


[06-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The existence of the option, no matter how hidden, is "pushing politics" for them


[06-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't matter that they'd never bump into it and it doesn't affect the game, it exists


[06-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
60 years ago, they'd be bitching that the game paints slavery in a bad light


[06-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's two genders, male and political


[06-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's two hair styles for women, long and political


[06-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Guys come on, we've gotten over slavery, it's 1960 for heaven's sake no one's around that thinks negroes are inferior, why is this hidden NPC complaining about having been a slave?!"


[06-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
I would unironically like to see how would video games look like if produced in Cold War era. On both sides of the Curtain.


[06-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You've got about 20 years of examples so


[06-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I had plenty of old C64 games based on the cold war getting very hot


[06-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course most games back then didn't have much space for story or characters


[06-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But generally the soviets weren't portrayed as much other than faceless enemies or stupidly evil, near nazi levels


[06-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
It's, those 20 years weren't different to any significant degree, politically, compared to pre-80ies and now. Things changed in terms of giving people ability to shitpost, but that doesn't really count.


[06-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, Teaspoon is likely right. It would probably be something disappointing like that.


[06-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
also @ Teaspoon, so it's, again, not so much what is said, but who's saying that. Fair enough, but unless this specific guy was caught doing it before, I'd support him. Certainly more than the redpilled 'all scifi is political commentary' guy with the 'wow' heart pic, for example.


[06-Mar-20 12:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Missle Command it it's no win condition, the game just gets harder endlessly until you lose


[06-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[06-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...how


[06-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, in fairness, _office_ employees.


[06-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
call center and shit


[06-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
they theoretically can do it, if inefficiently


[06-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
and a system to enable that would take longer to establish and debug than corona to run it's course


[06-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
but at least it's not _that_ stupid.


[06-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
just - stupid.


[06-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Silly Teaspoon


[06-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lyft would never do something as stupid as calling the drivers "employees"


[06-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're independent contractors, totally.


[06-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486238-trump-defends-rhetoric-when-they-hit-us-we-have-to-hit-back

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Trump defends rhetoric: 'When they hit us we have to hit back'
President Trump on Thursday defended his use of harsh rhetoric to respond to criticism from Democrats, even as he insisted the country has been united by his administration's economic achievements.
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[06-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"There's two ways of doing it. Turning your cheek, but I wouldn't be sitting up here if i turned my cheek."


[06-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bigger than Jesus


[06-Mar-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow, using a Bible phrase


[06-Mar-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So Christian


[06-Mar-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the first president we've had that wasn't super into their religion


[06-Mar-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Clinton would have been the same)


[06-Mar-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Jefferson tho


[06-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was Christian, he just kind of didn't think Jesus was the Son of God and that he said weird things sometimes


[06-Mar-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
he really wasn't


[06-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that only the words of Jesus counted


[06-Mar-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Jefferson was basically an atheist in denial for most of his adult life


[06-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think he liked atheists


[06-Mar-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
hence how he was in denial


[06-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Deist is probably the best way to describe his beliefs


[06-Mar-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Jefferson went a hell of a lot further than deism


[06-Mar-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
he was practically an antitheist


[06-Mar-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
most of the authors of the constitution and the first few presidents were also deists


[06-Mar-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Jefferson... was quite a lot more radical


[06-Mar-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
> Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.


[06-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's more than Deism right there


[06-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that's a "whence cometh evil?" right there.


[06-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Gnostic christians had a fairly decent answer but because they thought souls lacked gender and the material world was evil they promoted gender egalitarianism and birth control so the Catholic church declared gnositcs heretical


[06-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[06-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very on point satire.


[06-Mar-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
> Yeah, people on r/politics really don't get this. Their reaction is "so you're voting against progress and healthcare and the climate because some people were mean to you online", but that's not it. A lot of people who aren't already ride-or-die for Bernie are really turned off by what he inspires in his supporters. Like Pete said, leadership is about lifting people up and making people feel good about themselves. Belonging and respect is a huge part of that.


[06-Mar-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> 100%. Those those words themselves are sarcastic and alienating. I literally can't fathom why Bernie supporters think that treating people like they're just ignorant, brainwashed or have nefarious motives will convince people to support Bernie. I completely agree that voting shouldn't be based on what mean things people might say online, but they're shooting themselves in the foot with this rhetoric. Many people who are undecided and maybe not that big into politics are going to go on Twitter or Facebook to see what candidates are saying. They're going to read their issues pages (hopefully). When they see a deluge of Bernie supporters saying everyone else is a republican and wants to kill people, and then they see what Biden or Buttigieg or Warren have to say for themselves, it only makes Bernie supporters seem wrong or lying. Clearly every candidate wants to make change for the better. Clearly they aren't all Republicans. Clearly they aren't as bad as Trump if you just apply a modicum of reasoning. Bernie supporters have also been incredibly dismissive of the resistance movement which was largely comprised of women and who also did the most work getting Democratic wins in 2018, and Biden is winning big with them. I honestly do not understand the logic of alienating these people if you want your candidate to win.


[06-Mar-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> While I agree in principle the niceness of a person's supporters shouldn't factor into anyone's decisions, someone trying to decide who to vote for and using social media to inform that decision will see what supporters are saying about a candidate and other candidates and assume their attitude and messaging are a result of the messaging who they support. It's honestly maddening and incomprehensible. Why not explain why Medicare for all is good and tenable when people are skeptical of the possibility instead of telling them they want to kill people? How did you think that snake and rat emojis were a good idea when you need those voters in the general? People can't understand why someone would go from Warren to Biden because they're *not listening*. People want to feel included and listened to. Biden reached out to Jim Clyburn for his endorsement. On Twitter he is generally very positive about how he's going to get things done. Most Democrats like most of the other candidates and want them to come together in the end and want security and unity and are scared of Trump winning again. Crapping on every other Democrat makes pragmatic people afraid for down ballot candidates. It makes those voters seem capricious and unreliable. Now I'm just ranting, I guess. I just hate seeing so much in fighting. I'm just so tired. All of the Democratic candidates were so good, I'm going to be happy to cast my vote for whoever wins. All of this is just so exhausting and unnecessary.


[06-Mar-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
(Real comments)


[06-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
weaseling


[06-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're making the case for voting against Bernie cause of his fans while claiming not to.


[06-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also argumentum ad populum.


[06-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like "Well no, we aren't just hating him for his supporters, but they ARE vitriolic, and so a lot of people hate him for it, so..."


[06-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you actually tried to explain M4A to them, they'd just brush it off, especially if you made any appeal to NOT WANTING TO KILL FUKKING CHILDREN during it, because they'd say that by pointing out their reasons lead to killing of children and are thus incompatible with basic morality that's ad hominem and you're a big fat meany.


[06-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are desperate to hold onto civility in politics


[06-Mar-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Civility" just means "Stop being angry, they're just brown children being thrown into a meatgrinder by rapists!"


[06-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Honahue#0656
"Medicare for all would be neat but someone was mean to me online"


[06-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's more like "Medicare For All? THAT DIVIDES PEOPLE. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS GUY BEING MEAN TO ME ONLINE"


[06-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is X person being mean is bad, therefore Bernie is bad for inspiring it, therefore anything he says is bad.


[06-Mar-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> it divides people
social media makes everything divisive


[06-Mar-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
and I'm not even sure if some of the divisiveness are from real people


[06-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about the social media


[06-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about pushing an idea they don't like


[06-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They say it's "divisive", but what they really mean is "I want poor people to suffer, how dare you speak out against that"


[06-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It converts a narrative about equal rights in relation to economic class into a narrative about conflict.


[06-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what they want.


[06-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to go "well people died in the French Revolution, so taking the wealthy and the clergy out of power is bad because it kills people".


[06-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And ignore the whole aspect of how people were starving to death while being taxed to the bone by the two.


[06-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
holy shit that sounds like my parents, but more minor issues


[06-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
like if I swear while complaining about a problem they focus on the swear and ignore my problem


[06-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
drives me nuts


[06-Mar-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
rip then


[06-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is this is a general wrap you can put on any problem.


[06-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives see like, you allowing people to change their pronouns and go "that's divisive"


[06-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an argument against the very notion anything should ever change.


[06-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, when trans bathrooms come up as an issue


[06-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives: WE DIDN'T USED TO NEED ALL THIS!


[06-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
YOU ARE TEARIN' OUR COUNTRY APART


[06-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, they're literally the ones raising an issue with teachers stalking kids into restrooms.


[06-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And trying to pass laws so that only your birth sex can be taken into account regardless of changes.


[06-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which doesn't even make sense with the main argument of "you should go into the bathroom people think you should" because sex changes can be pretty thorough about appearance)


[06-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You put on a play *about* diversity and our nation's founding, then at the end you politely ask a conservative to respect diverse peoples.


[06-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump: THE THEATER IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SAFE PLACE! DISGRACEFUL!


[06-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Almost the exact quote right there, btw.


[06-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want pogroms taking out jews and muslims and blakks and the poor without any fuss, and if you so much as make a peep in the reverse, you're the one who's causing everyone to feel tense etc.


[06-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because only *their* tenseness is considered for this.


[06-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joe Biden reminds them of a time when minority rights were a distant future and not an actual reality staring them in the face.


[06-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when nobody said a peep about issues with healthcare, and only when white people were affected was anything done.


[06-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
White rich people (via preexisting conditions), even.


[06-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note the current status of things is only the poorer whites get plans that disallow preexisting conditions, via loopholes.


[06-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It's only being talked about now because white people can't afford healthcare anymore


[06-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even then, the rich want to crush it away.


[06-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's own fukking SON couldn't afford end of life care


[06-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama had to bail him out


[06-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden then LIED about Obamacare doing it in an ad.


[06-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden isn't even interested in fixing shit that makes his own family reliant on others for help.


[06-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants to pretend it didn't happen.


[06-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That everything's fine.


[06-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found on law meme page: "I wanted Liz, but Joe has taught me that you can graduate at the bottom of your class and still trounce the gunners in real life."


[06-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
By being white.


[06-Mar-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
we are at the point now where multiple health insurance companies have publicly come out in support of a public option


[06-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He plagiarized his law review note.


[06-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He worked as a public defender and was infamously poor at it.


[06-Mar-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
but that's still too much for us to pay for, for some reason, despite it working for... (checks) every other country that does it?


[06-Mar-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ah I actually heard the argument behind that


[06-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
so they can kick their most expensive clients off onto public support


[06-Mar-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, every other country has cheaper healthcare because *we* pay for it - the pharmaceutical companies can't get their R&D money off of the profits in the stingy EU, and if we weren't paying for it there wouldn't be any innovation


[06-Mar-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course the person claiming such subsidies sidestepped explaining how that is in the face of the actual numbers


[06-Mar-20 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
pharmaceuticals don't get research money from sales, they get it from the government... and most of them just buy existing patents and profit from those


[06-Mar-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, indeed, why it is that the guy who asked for pharma funding to get a vaccine for SARS was denied because big pharma wanted to wait and see if it could be profitable. And he's getting the same treatment over corona


[06-Mar-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I forget his name


[06-Mar-20 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
what they get from sales is massive lobbyist kickbacks


[06-Mar-20 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/thefouchoe/status/1235579460285497345

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[06-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://babylonbee.com/news/warren-returns-to-tribe-in-shame-after-failing-to-retake-land-from-the-white-man

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CHEROKEE NATION—Having dropped out of the presidential race, Elizabeth Warren rode in solitude back to her reservation, having failed to take the land back from the pale faces."I am sorry, my people. I have failed," she said somberly, a single tear rolling down her cheek. "The...
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[06-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh damn, CNN got hot


[06-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
White Biden spokesperson told a Sanders' black spokesperson to stop quoting MLK, that went as well as you could imagine

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[06-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
is there a source or something for that? that's peak clip material


[06-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not yet I guess


[06-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was 10m ago


[06-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am so tired of people saying "just stay home if you feel sick"


[06-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And no one asking "OK, how do I do that?"


[06-Mar-20 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/fe2biu/bernie_sanders_admits_hes_not_getting_young/fjlh7u2/>


[06-Mar-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
> I work with a bunch of people in the 25-35 range who don't even know what the fuck a presidential primary is. People who are too enamored of Netflix series and other distractions to care about their futures. It's depressing.


[06-Mar-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Yes I had someone (who is enthusiastic about Bernie) ask what's the difference between the elections that are going on now vs the one in November. Also when canvassing ONE DAY before the caucuses in Iowa, I spoke to a younger person who was happily surprised to learn Bernie was running for the nomination again...


[06-Mar-20 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
in our land politics is considered a time waster. If you want to fight someone but don't have a legitimate reason, talk politics! Ideally with a dash of alcohol. If you want to care about something but has given up on your own life, think politics! There's always _something_ going on to make you feel angry and warm inside.


[06-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
in short, stay out unless you plan on making money off it.


[06-Mar-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it has it's good sides and it's bad sides. Some of you probably heard of the story of how our current president was elected, for example. People don't care for politics, so they got fed conventional entertainment first, and then the gap between two was bridged.


[06-Mar-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
the good side is, many people refuse to blindly hate the russians just because the higher-ups fucked up in their dealings.


[06-Mar-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
> See I'm kinda the opposite. Politically involved, never miss a vote, don't care much for policy, positions on issues, etc. But love reading how others react to it and how subgroups within polls intersect. If you could give me a steady diet of charts, data and energy drinks, if be a happy man.


[06-Mar-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
this is much more interesting quote btw. They're just in it for the drama.


[06-Mar-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
also


[06-Mar-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
> When you run the numbers, it kind of is a hobby. The odds of having any actual effect is virtually nil, so the only real reason to participate is because you enjoy it.


[06-Mar-20 06:14 AM] illumnious#7938
The battle of the pettiness https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1235633381595066373?s=21

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[06-Mar-20 06:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Kill me


[06-Mar-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
```The idea is like, when trans bathrooms come up as an issue```


[06-Mar-20 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
also, here's another hot take. I'm really glad trans bathrooms as an issue, as well as trans thing in general seems to have fallen to the wayside and isn't so in vogue like it used to be several years ago.


[06-Mar-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW GEN XERS


[06-Mar-20 06:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm slowly realising that while, yes, it probably* _shouldn't_ matter what you call yourself and what's under your belt, in many cases it _does_, and just arbitrarily changing the designation makes the system try and reject you. Or try to adapt patchwork solutions to some specific things pressed passionately enough, without making any sweeping (or perhaps evolutionary) changes. So you get this... messy uncomfortable patchwork of shtuff that never fits together.


[06-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that nothing related to Sanders so far was rigged in any way and the groups that gave Biden his victories have completely different views of what they want


[06-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Everyone I knew voted for McGovern" doesn't work, never will


[06-Mar-20 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I've talked here and elsewhere on trans issue and how is it good for the people. The best outcome was, it's taking a swing at gender norms which are often pretty awful and restrictive for little to no reasons (or perhaps reasons that are no longer valid, with the passage of time). _Good_. It has never been discussed like this in mainstream media for long, nor was it ever approached this way. And on the flipside, it makes it very easy to attack changing/rejecting gender norms using trans issues (don't even think about that, do you want to become like _them_ or something? Muh traditional values!).


[06-Mar-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/1235764671573118977

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Watched .@ewarren  on @maddow  and cried through half of it. She's absolutely brilliant. America made a HUGE mistake. HUGE.
The media should have given her as much attention while she was running as they are now that she's bowed out. God I'm so mad.
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[06-Mar-20 06:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh boy, it's gonna be another #withher shit


[06-Mar-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
take sports. Most of high-energy stuff is tied to sex (and so gender, as those two aren't decoupled that easily). Gender doesn't matter, but sex _does_, since unlike in real world, in sports and its minmaxing things like _theoretical limit_ come into play. Of course, sports, especially professional sports in it's current form is also pretty 'wtf is going on, why is it a thing and how did we get here', but it's another huge issue nobody would like to approach. Related, in a more conservative channel a while back I was shown a story about some guy who declared himself a woman on twitter, and then demonstrated how that transformed his average, maybe slightly above average weightlifting results into world class stuff, on par with current records. Bit grotesque, and it proved the wrong point, but the stories like that counter the very immature trans thing very effectively.


[06-Mar-20 06:37 AM] jlun2#8758
does that mean warren supporters endorse biden now to spite bernie?


[06-Mar-20 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
unless they coordinate that somehow, which would be visible, I wouldn't expect it.


[06-Mar-20 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I _would_ expect them to sit it out though.


[06-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Faust is a member of the one, count em, one, demographic that Warren polled well with


[06-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren would have been eviscerated in any general election.


[06-Mar-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gender norms are a thing to throw molotov cokktails at.


[06-Mar-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are nothing else.


[06-Mar-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone asks you what's in your pants you tell them a restraining order.


[06-Mar-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as with wearing a kilt


[06-Mar-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they ask you whether you're wearing underwear, you ask them the same question and walk away as they go pale.


[06-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
(people think it's "funny" to ask a guy whether he's wearing such, but that it'd be creepy to ask a girl)


[06-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot ever hav it both ways.


[06-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's either funny, or it's not.


[06-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/019/788/iconwhatsinyourpants.png


[06-Mar-20 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weird names for your balls but I won't judge


[06-Mar-20 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Call them Deter and Mination all you want


[06-Mar-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
More perfect https://pics.me.me/this-is-the-future-liberals-want-are-you-a-man-61729198.png

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[06-Mar-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that is indeed the future we want.


[06-Mar-20 07:27 AM] Midknight#9798
Seems fine to me


[06-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
I saw a police SUV with a bumper sticker on the back that said "Obey the sign or pay the fine" with two clipart badges on it


[06-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
today


[06-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
one of them was badly scaled, so it looked squished too


[06-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
and I was thinking "this must be the boomer patrol"

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[06-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Midknight#9798
probably a boomer pretending to be police


[06-Mar-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
nah, it had the exempt license plate and had "Police Interceptor" and K-9 on it


[06-Mar-20 07:29 AM] Midknight#9798
grow up playing cops and robbers, get old, get senile, forget you're not really a cop


[06-Mar-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/05/mueller-report-justice-department-unredacted

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Department told to provide report by 30 March so judge can assess what material can be released to public
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[06-Mar-20 11:20 AM] Opponent#3498
the endless tale :D


[06-Mar-20 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/486230-pelosi-well-have-a-woman-president-someday

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Pelosi: 'We'll have a woman president' someday
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday expressed optimism that the U.S. will eventually elect a female president, despite it being virtually certain that the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee will be a man after Sen.
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[06-Mar-20 11:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486252-trump-insists-taliban-wants-to-make-a-deal-after-surge-in-violence-in

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President Trump projected confidence on Thursday about the prospect of a peace agreement in Afghanistan after a surge of violence was attributed to the Taliban in the region just days after his administration signed
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[06-Mar-20 11:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.essence.com/op-ed/joe-biden-james-o-eastland-mississippi/

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https://www.essence.com/op-ed/joe-biden-james-o-eastland-mississippi/
Op-ed: Joe Biden Is The White Moderate Dr. King Warned Us About
Joe Biden, former U.S. Vice-President, and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, shared fond memories Tuesday night of James O. Eastland, the white supremacist Mississippi senator known as “The Voice of the White South,” calling him “son.”
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[06-Mar-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
“I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the [African American]’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice.”  — Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.


[06-Mar-20 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-continue-shaking-hands-not-thrilled-elbow-bumps-2020-3

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Trump, a known germaphobe, says he will keep shaking hands during t...
"I love the people of this country, and you can't be a politician and not shake hands," the president told a Fox News town hall Thursday.
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[06-Mar-20 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, there's some hope with this


[06-Mar-20 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
least he's willing to do _something_ to back up his claims :D


[06-Mar-20 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
would be hillarious if he promises this and later will not actually do it though.


[06-Mar-20 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tulsi-gabbard-still-in-2020-the-race-unclear-why-2020-3

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Tulsi Gabbard is still in the 2020 race and it's unclear why
Gabbard is about as likely to win the Democratic nomination as Barack Obama is to run for a third term for the presidency.
https://i.insider.com/5dab0bba4af9096386785ef4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[06-Mar-20 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
suddenly both Biden and Bernie die from corona, and she remains the sole candidate.


[06-Mar-20 11:54 AM] Opponent#3498
actually, if this happens, does she automatically get the nomination?


[06-Mar-20 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly, though she would probably lose to trump since apparently despite making the pact, "vote blue no matter who" is easily discarded if a candidate you dont liek gets nomination


[06-Mar-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[06-Mar-20 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
union? Feh, those damn communists.


[06-Mar-20 01:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Feed the bougies to Corona and leave them like they have no insurance


[06-Mar-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Mar-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485827-trump-administration-considering-paying-for-uninsured-coronavirus-patients

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[06-Mar-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Mar-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent something else to note with the gender norms thing is that we have created ridiculous environments for it to exist


[06-Mar-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
like, separate male and female bathrooms


[06-Mar-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
does it _really_ matter what's in your pants if you just have to pee


[06-Mar-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/nbIyqbh

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We really do need it here. End of story.
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[06-Mar-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-says-will-fail-1m-goal-coronavirus-test-kits-2020-3

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The White House has admitted it will fail to meet its goal of provi...
Vice President Mike Pence moved the self-imposed deadline back one week as officials struggle with the scarcity of testing equipment.
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[06-Mar-20 03:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Based Vox using Coronavirus to prove China is a bougie capitalist dictatorship since Mao https://youtu.be/TPpoJGYlW54

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
Why new diseases keep appearing in China
And why COVID-19 was bound to happen. 

Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO

As of early March 2020, a new coronavirus, called COVID-19, is in more than 70 countries and has killed more than 3,100 people, the vast majority in China. That's where the virus emerged ba...
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[06-Mar-20 03:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Tl;dw - The Wet Markers of China were created as a response to Mao's failure to handle farming and remained because they became a source of profit. The absorption of the trade into the Chinese state being also them doubling down on the profit motive while also acting to cover for an illicit trade. This has been why China has been a major source for disease


[06-Mar-20 03:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thereby proving Bordiga right that like the USSR being a capitalist dictatorship China too is and has always been a capitalist dictatorship because of the commodity form still existing and continuing to be a posion


[06-Mar-20 03:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
And not le bio terror attack by China against itself.


[06-Mar-20 03:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/febaoz/if_you_had_a_button_that_when_pressed_would_give/
> I think you have just perfectly described the fossil fuel industry

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[06-Mar-20 03:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Literally any industry.


[06-Mar-20 03:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Muh profit before product


[06-Mar-20 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember when baby food companies laced their baby formula with opium


[06-Mar-20 03:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Good times


[06-Mar-20 03:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or literally did the sawdust in rice crispies meme


[06-Mar-20 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Mar-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Poop girl https://i.redd.it/ra88u3a1vxk41.png

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[06-Mar-20 04:01 PM] Crow#5457
stock market opened 30 minutes ago, already down 701.36 (2.69%)


[06-Mar-20 04:02 PM] Crow#5457
I thought it was hilarious that it was jumping up because biden won super tuesday


[06-Mar-20 04:02 PM] Crow#5457
because anyone with a brain would realize it would fall right back down once they remembered there was a global pandemic going on


[06-Mar-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
>69%


[06-Mar-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
nice


[06-Mar-20 04:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://66.media.tumblr.com/aabee9ae89ada2ce91ec179a38a87f9b/6ae1aff4ff03c440-06/s500x750/02c5f091d128c1d986ffcacab39e1ae4274eae8e.jpg

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[06-Mar-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/first-lenin-statue-western-germany-erected-gelsenkirchen

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First Lenin statue in western Germany to be erected after heated ba...
Victory for Gelsenkirchen’s leftist party MLPD after city authorities tried to halt installation
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[06-Mar-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Len is in


[06-Mar-20 05:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/a-harvard-student-told-jeff-bezos-something-no-ceo-wants-to-hear-worse-was-way-he-said-it.html

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A Harvard Student Told Jeff Bezos Something No CEO Wants to Hear. W...
Sometimes, it's not what people say about your business that matters but how they say it. And then how you react.
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[06-Mar-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck does this have to do with politics


[06-Mar-20 05:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/jack-welch-obit-ge.html

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Jack Welch, former chairman and CEO of GE, dies at 84
Fortune magazine once called him "manager of the century," but he also was known as "Neutron Jack" for slashing tens of thousands of jobs.
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[06-Mar-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
same here


[06-Mar-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck does this have to do with politics


[06-Mar-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
why are you posting this here


[06-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/01/europe/italy-coronavirus-cases-travel-advisory/index.html

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Italy reports a 50% increase in confirmed coronavirus cases
Italy reported a 50% increase in coronavirus cases Sunday, as the US further restricted travel and the famed La Scala opera house closed.
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[06-Mar-20 05:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
@byte[] the jeff bezo article is about how some business base their entire model on a future they expect to happen instead of the current present. The ge ceo death is important as jack changed the way businesses like GE operated.


[06-Mar-20 05:58 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-senator-lindsey-graham-warns-against-trumps-taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan-will-fall-apart-1490053

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GOP Senator Lindsey Graham warns against Trump's Taliban peace deal...
"Al-Qaeda and ISIS will come forward again to threaten us," the South Carolina lawmaker said, arguing against a full withdrawal of U.S. troops.
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[06-Mar-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's already falling appart


[06-Mar-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vatican/vatican-reports-first-case-of-coronavirus-in-vatican-city-idUSKBN20T13O

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Vatican reports first case of coronavirus inside its walls
The Vatican said on Friday that a patient in its health services had tested posi...
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200306&t=2&i=1499531859&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG250XM


[06-Mar-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
Inshallah


[06-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mexican-cartels-arizona-children-drug-smuggling

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Mexican cartels recruit Arizona children as young as 12 to smuggle ...
An alarming trend is spreading along the U.S. and Mexico border — cartels are hiring American children as young as 12 years old to smuggle drugs and weapons.
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[06-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
Number big, life good.


[06-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
mexican drug money will pay for it :D


[06-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/asia/jimmy-lai-hong-kong-arrested.html

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By Elaine Yu
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/asia/jimmy-lai-hong-kong-arrested.html
Jimmy Lai, Hong Kong Media Baron, Is Arrested Over Role in Protests
The arrest of the media tycoon is another blow to Hong Kong’s independent media as the city deals with the aftermath of mass protests and the coronavirus outbreak.
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[06-Mar-20 06:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/SiddakAhuja/status/1235783420984340482
https://twitter.com/SiddakAhuja/status/1235785027465732096

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Siddak Ahuja (@SiddakAhuja)
https://twitter.com/SiddakAhuja/status/1235783420984340482
A man brought a literal Nazi flag to the rally of a Jewish Socialist candidate for President

He was escorted out by security forces

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The man was escorted out of the rally, and shouted the N word as he left 

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[06-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3053025/hong-kong-protests-riot-police-fire-tear-gas-pepper-spray

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Police arrest 115 after biggest outbreak of protest violence since ...
Government warns resurgence of violence, with city in throes of public health crisis, poses major threat to the economy.
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[06-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486311-romney-to-vote-for-burisma-subpoena#

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Romney to vote for Burisma subpoena
Sen.
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[06-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still don't get why I should really care


[06-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51768577

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Virgin Media breach 'linked customers to porn'
Researchers say a breached Virgin Media database contained more details than the company suggested.
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[06-Mar-20 08:28 PM] jlun2#8758
virgin porn


[06-Mar-20 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr UK ISP had a leak that included client's real name, addresses, email addresses, and site viewing history


[06-Mar-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-cut-funding-entitlements-social-security-medicare-national-debt-reelection-2020-3-1028972301

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Trump says he'll cut entitlements like Social Security and Medicare...
Trump said at a Fox News town hall forum that he was intending to reduce funding for Social Security and Medicare, two of the largest federal en...
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[06-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/03/03/10-year-old-dies-in-mexican-border-state-cartel-shootout/

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10-Year-Old Dies in Mexican Border State Cartel Shootout
A boy died in a hail of gunfire during an early morning shooting at a hotel in what authorities are describing as a cartel attack.
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[06-Mar-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486182-trump-signs-83b-coronavirus-package

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Trump signs $8.3 billion coronavirus package
President Trump on Friday signed a bill providing $8.3 billion in emergency funding to combat the coronavirus outbreak.
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[06-Mar-20 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
90% sure Warren will endorse Biden


[06-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some of her first words were along the lines of "those mean bernie bros!"


[06-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/03/06/coronavirus-outbreak-life-italy-health-system-wedeman-pkg-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

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Italian doctor: We work 'four or five days continuously' - CNN Video
Italy's health service is under growing pressure as the number of new novel coronavirus cases soars. Doctors at one of the main hospitals treating coronavirus patients tell CNN's Ben Wedeman they've been put to the test by this crisis.
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[06-Mar-20 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
>UK


[06-Mar-20 08:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Eon_EMP/status/1235926027924320257?s=19

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Eon EMP 🏳️‍🌈 (@Eon_EMP)
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So apparently now people in the UK need to enter their fucking credit card to go onto e621 smh furries are the most oppressed minority 😔😔
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[06-Mar-20 08:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
That's just O2. those bastards have a monopoly in the UK and poorer parts of Europe. They also way over charge for data.


[06-Mar-20 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-revolutionary-guard-coronavirus-us-biological-attack

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Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander says coronavirus may have bee...
The commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the coronavirus might be the result of a biological attack from the United States, according to a local news agency
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[06-Mar-20 08:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.wthr.com/article/first-confirmed-coronavirus-case-indiana

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First confirmed coronavirus case in Indiana
ISDH had already been monitoring more than two dozen people in Indiana for possible COVID-19.
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[06-Mar-20 08:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I cant wait to see how this fails


[06-Mar-20 08:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
The fact that indiana it self is one of the worst states for health


[06-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200306-iraqs-angry-protesters-returns-to-the-streets/

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Phil Leech
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200306-iraqs-angry-protesters-returns-to-the-streets/
Iraq’s angry protesters returns to the streets
Iraqi demonstrators started on Thursday morning to close several roads and traffic intersections and burn tires in Basra province, south to denounce the mechanism of choosing a candidate to form the n...
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[06-Mar-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal i thought boomers have free healthcare they'd be completely fine


[06-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its not even the healthcare


[06-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its the doctors here


[06-Mar-20 09:10 PM] jlun2#8758
boomers will be protected by sky daddy


[06-Mar-20 09:12 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the doctors are not even boomers


[06-Mar-20 09:12 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
some are


[06-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but its mostly gen x, or millennials


[06-Mar-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> gen x
so boomer lite


[06-Mar-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486340-trump-again-walks-back-remarks-on-cutting-social-security

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Trump again walks back remarks on cutting Social Security
President Trump on Friday vowed to protect Social Security and Medicare after appearing to say at a town hall the night before that he would look to cut funding for those types of programs if elected to a second term.
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[06-Mar-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he then later said he absolutely would cut them if re-elected but walked that back as well, only to repeat it 200 more times in the span of a week


[06-Mar-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.indy100.com/article/coronavirus-trump-vaccine-flu-us-symptoms-9372566

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Experts baffled as Trump asks why they can't just use flu vaccines ...
Donald Trump appears to be even more confused than ever bout coronavirus. In a series of videos actually released by the White House, Trump can be seen getting increasingly more confused by the
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/03/03/14/untitled-design-17.jpg


[06-Mar-20 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486345-sanders-campaign-co-chair-says-warren-would-be-outstanding-choice-for-vp#

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Sanders campaign co-chair says Warren would be 'outstanding choice'...
Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), one of Sen. Bernie Sander's (I-Vt.) campaign co-chairs, said on Friday that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) would be an "outstanding choice" for vice president.
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[06-Mar-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) Why need vaccines when we have faith healing.
||its a joke dont yell at me pls||


[06-Mar-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1235938263229177856?s=19

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Judd Legum (@JuddLegum)
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1235938263229177856?s=19
ONE WEEK AGO Trump claimed that any criticism of his administration's response to the coronavirus was a "hoax" because there were only 15 cases in the United States and no Americans had died.

TODAY there are 233 confirmed cases in the United States and 14 deaths.
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[06-Mar-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
antivax insanity https://i.redd.it/ki8jv5gj72l41.jpg

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[06-Mar-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
i hope they get affected, but because real life is weird as hell they probably go through this sickness free


[06-Mar-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"vaccine injured"


[06-Mar-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what the fuck does that even mean?


[06-Mar-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_injury

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Vaccine injury


[06-Mar-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this maybe?


[06-Mar-20 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"A vaccine adverse event, sometimes referred to as a vaccine injury, is an adverse event caused by vaccination. Most vaccine adverse events are mild; serious injuries and deaths caused by vaccines are very rare, and the idea that severe events are common has been classed as a "common misconception about immunization" by the World Health Organization.[1] Some claimed vaccine injuries are not, in fact, caused by vaccines; for example, there is a subculture of advocates who attribute their children’s autism to vaccine injury,[2] despite the fact that vaccines do not cause autism.[3][4]"


[06-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I had a needle scrape my bone once


[06-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hurt enough to shutdown my arm for half a day


[06-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess that was a "vaccine injury"


[06-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/CorruptedTacos/status/1235923615587143680?s=19

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Shin Coryuken ➡️⬇️↘️🅱️🅿️ (@CorruptedTacos)
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This is beyond satire
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[06-Mar-20 10:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Automated employee appreciation or boss being a dick. Probably both.


[06-Mar-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Both, boss probably didn't realize what the message would be or that "give 0 dollars"would actually say as much


[06-Mar-20 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.thewrap.com/jamal-khashoggi-doc-dissident-hollywood-shuns-saudi-fears/

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Hollywood Shuns Jamal Khashoggi Doc 'The Dissident' Over Fear of Sa...
Bryan Fogel's "The Dissident," about the murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi, is having trouble finding a distributor out of fear from the Saudis.
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[06-Mar-20 11:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/_N-p5jg6U_c

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Inside Edition
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Security Stops Suspect Allegedly Making a Bomb in Walmart
Was this woman preparing to set off a nail bomb in her local Walmart? Security at the Florida store said they asked an off-duty officer to investigate after they observed a woman assembling what they suspected was a nail bomb. They saw her open a box of nails, put them in a ma...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_N-p5jg6U_c/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Mar-20 11:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Wackiest headlines


[06-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Walmart is a mini-florida in every county


[07-Mar-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart is the gateway to the florida dimension


[07-Mar-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
home of the florida men


[07-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-says-he-d-rather-keep-people-on-cruise-ship-to-keep-numbers-down/vi-BB10R0DO

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Trump says he'd rather keep people on cruise ship to keep numbers down
While at the CDC, President Trump said that he didn't want people to leave the cruise ship that's currently being quarantined because the number of infected people in the U.S. would likely go up.


[07-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486412-trump-names-mark-meadows-as-new-chief-of-staff

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Trump names Mark Meadows as new chief of staff
President Trump on Friday announced that Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) would replace Mick Mulvaney as his chief of staff.
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[07-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mick kicked out, made envoy to Northern Ireland


[07-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US has no minister of forestry of course

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[07-Mar-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0ff43541a6fc024c3217478d5d062919

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One more victory: Biden wins most Super Tuesday delegates
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden has put an exclamation point on his Super Tuesday victories by winning the most delegates on the presidential primary calendar's biggest...
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[07-Mar-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55661d0f1edf9e18d950ad80cfee2a74

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New qualifications for next debate likely rule out Gabbard
The Democratic National Committee has ratcheted up the threshold to qualify for its next presidential debate, requiring candidates to have picked up at least 20% of convention delegates allocated...
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[07-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only you could vote in Fortnite


[07-Mar-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-victories-unleash-something-hes-never-had-money-2020-3

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With Mayor Pete out, the ultra-wealthy are lining up to host high-d...
Support for Biden among wealthy and influential donors surged this week after the former VP won 10 out of 12 primary elections on Super Tuesday.
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[07-Mar-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bidens face just keeps dipping further into uncanny valley...

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[07-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Read another book


[07-Mar-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
```TODAY there are 233 confirmed cases in the United States and 14 deaths```


[07-Mar-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
Obama personally went and embraced all 233 of those to spread ebola.


[07-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
He embraced only those 233? It won't spread very far then :ponythinking:


[07-Mar-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21168206/amazon-cold-virus-development-grand-challenge

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Amazon is reportedly working to find a cure for the common cold
It’s looking to develop a vaccine
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[07-Mar-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Translated: Amazon wants to remove your sick day excuses one by one

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[07-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well yes, that's the driving force


[07-Mar-20 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, if they do find it somehow..


[07-Mar-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nationalize Amazon


[07-Mar-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then enjoy the wash of new international issues this will imply.


[07-Mar-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or better yet: annihilate the exchange form


[07-Mar-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
exchange form?


[07-Mar-20 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, commodity form. That being any object with a use or need or want by humans that can be exchanged for others. Strike the later and end the accumulation underpinning capitalism and erect new shit to manage that distribution.


[07-Mar-20 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
But long story and I am at home about to go to sleep


[07-Mar-20 05:25 AM] nova bellfire#2446
i vote blemberg


[07-Mar-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
if they do effectively vaccinate against the cold I will commend them for it


[07-Mar-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
> Someone once told me the president of ireland looks like a combination of danny devito and bernie sanders. And i cant not see it


[07-Mar-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
bernie devito or danny sanders?


[07-Mar-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
I prefer the first


[07-Mar-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/7WV1Xsf

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I still like playing Nintendo...
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[07-Mar-20 06:51 AM] jlun2#8758
Zoomer bashing when


[07-Mar-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I'd like to note that COVID-19 has hit Egypt


[07-Mar-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
...and Algeria, and South Africa


[07-Mar-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Africa's interior is like the only place not known to be hit yet, it's pointless to even trakk which countries hav it now.


[07-Mar-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Containment at this point is completely unrealistic.


[07-Mar-20 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be in every state/province of every country within the month.


[07-Mar-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it will totally die when it gets warm right


[07-Mar-20 08:16 AM] jlun2#8758
sure? :shrugpony:


[07-Mar-20 08:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Trump thinks.


[07-Mar-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, he could die to it.


[07-Mar-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would be ironic.


[07-Mar-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sjJqbWkHls

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CBS Evening News
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Pence warns of deficit as demand for coronavirus testing kits rises
Government health officials do not have enough medical test kits for those who may be exposed to the coronavirus. The Trump administration is accused of giving the public mixed messages on the risks and their preparedness of the outbreak. Paula Reid reports.

Subscribe to the ...
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[07-Mar-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
womp womp


[07-Mar-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, I saw a bit of this movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Gift

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The Ultimate Gift
The Ultimate Gift is a 2006 American drama film directed by Michael O. Sajbel from a screenplay written by Cheryl McKay, which is based on the best selling novel by Jim Stovall, who cameos in the film. It stars Drew Fuller, Ali Hillis, Bill Cobbs, Abigail Breslin, Brian Denneh...
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[07-Mar-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's like a fantasy of how boomers think millennials should behave


[07-Mar-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-have-been-tested-coronavirus/607597/

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Exclusive: The Strongest Evidence Yet That America Is Botching Coro...
“I don’t know what went wrong,” a former CDC chief told The Atlantic.
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[07-Mar-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump's CDC is trying to hide how few people can be tested


[07-Mar-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some states can only test a dozen people a day.


[07-Mar-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely the initial numbers of infected people returning home dwarf that so


[07-Mar-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.tokyoreporter.com/japan/aichi-man-infected-with-coronavirus-goes-to-bars-to-spread-it/

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Aichi: Man infected with coronavirus goes to bars 'to spread' it
A man in his 50s in Gamagori City visited two bars after being confirmed as infected with the novel coronavirus
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[07-Mar-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
> He was to remain at home until an appropriate medical institution was found for treatment. However, he decided to take a taxi to an izakaya bar, reports Fuji News Network (Mar. 6).
> 
> Before departing, he reportedly told a family member, “I am going to spread the virus.”

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[07-Mar-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[07-Mar-20 08:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*~ B I O W E A P O N S ~*


[07-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Macarou#9574
The Ultimate Bioweapon!


[07-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/4fh8s9/this_is_how_rthe_donald_gets_so_many_posts_onto/

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r/TheoryOfReddit - This is how /r/The_Donald gets so many posts ont...
369 votes and 257 comments so far on Reddit


[07-Mar-20 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/u0jie2i7b1l41.jpg

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[07-Mar-20 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
apparently this tweet violated twitter's rules https://twitter.com/sarahlarkinn/status/1234910748700237825


[07-Mar-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486389-trump-sets-up-for-bruising-campaign-against-biden

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Trump sets up for bruising campaign against Biden
President Trump and his allies are laying the groundwork for a bruising and personal general election campaign strategy in the event Joe Biden wins the Democratic presidential nomination.
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[07-Mar-20 01:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
isn't that what he's been doing? Isn't that *all* he's been doing? Has Sanders even registered in his mind?


[07-Mar-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kinda... he's been demanding his followers vote for sanders probably with the intention of giving sanders a bad image so joe gets the nomination


[07-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-those-grand-princess-cruise-ship-should-stay-boat-so-us-coronavirus-numbers-dont-go-1491038

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Trump says those on Grand Princess cruise ship should stay on boat ...
"I'd rather have them stay on," Trump said Friday of people onboard a cruise ship where coronavirus was detected moored off the coast of San Francisco, "but I fully understand if they'd rather take them off."
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[07-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
I seriously can't tell if trump's a narcissist or a sociopath anymore


[07-Mar-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a narcissistic sociopath


[07-Mar-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can you not be both at the same time?


[07-Mar-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[07-Mar-20 03:09 PM] ononim#8141
Biden Pals


[07-Mar-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
they're probably not wrong, it is an attention grab (at least, if the story was old). And neither is she, as he is pretty creepy like that.


[07-Mar-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
people cried rape for less.


[07-Mar-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden must sniff the children


[07-Mar-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is where he obtains his youth from


[07-Mar-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and by youth we mean his ever growing horrifying toonish physique


[07-Mar-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soon his mouth will expand enough to eat babies


[07-Mar-20 04:17 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is Islam so misunderstood


[07-Mar-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
because of christian conservatives


[07-Mar-20 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
but I should remind you that religion is used as an oppressive force almost worldwide and you should condemn all religions


[07-Mar-20 04:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I've read that the primary difference between Islam and, say, Christianity, is Islam currently experiencing it's militant phase while the others outgrew that with time.


[07-Mar-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the militant phases seem to coem in cycles


[07-Mar-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christianity seems to have chose political militants over physically violent militants but physically violent militants still exist in the religion


[07-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that too


[07-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1236318204542287874

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Desperate CDC Director Walks Down Hall Of Imprisoned Diseases For One-On-One Talk With Avian Flu About Stopping Coronavirus https://t.co/6BHgWZPdwh
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[07-Mar-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/byl2vyqu36l41.jpg I think we found the dumbest man in australia

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[07-Mar-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least he admits it


[07-Mar-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/900702/trump-says-doctors-keep-asking-how-knows-much-about-coronavirus

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Trump says doctors keep asking how he knows so much about the coron...
President Trump mused about a career path not taken Friday.
Speaking to reporters at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, about the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, which is spreading across the United States and throughout the world, Trump mentioned...
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[07-Mar-20 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump will steal that man's titles on his next visit to Aus


[07-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166705/youtube-kids-act-markey-blumenthal-coppa-tiktok-ryans-toy-review

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https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/5/21166705/youtube-kids-act-markey-blumenthal-coppa-tiktok-ryans-toy-review
YouTube children’s content faces a new threat from the KIDS Act
Markey’s KIDS Act could change the face of YouTube
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[07-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[07-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Raise COPPA age to 15 or 16


[07-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ban autoplay on anything popular


[07-Mar-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do as much as possible to make video sites not exist.


[07-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this hasn't passed has it?


[07-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not yet.


[07-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
good. hope it get's stopped


[07-Mar-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It won't be


[07-Mar-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Think of the children" is every politician's trump card to get whatever the fuck they want passed


[07-Mar-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyone that says "no" for whatever reason comes off as a monster


[07-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
other bills have been halted in the past that did the "think of the children" argument


[07-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
remember that one bill from the cali politician to restrict violent video games and it later turned out be illegally selling guns. 
this is also a election year, this guy might get halted just because of the letter next to his name.


[07-Mar-20 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, this is the kind of bill republicans would embrace on the surface being for child safety, under the surface being for putting an end to their media enemies


[07-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
we'll see if it goes anywhere. let's hope for the best and raise awareness


[07-Mar-20 07:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
imagine having to guard toilet paper.


[07-Mar-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not seeing armed guard int hat article title


[07-Mar-20 07:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's in one of the other articles he covers in the vid


[07-Mar-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, i;m not watching it


[07-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
your loss...


[07-Mar-20 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also didnt we agree there would be no mroe timcast?


[07-Mar-20 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wral.com/its-crazy-panic-buying-forces-stores-to-limit-purchases-of-toilet-paper-and-masks/18996211/

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https://www.wral.com/its-crazy-panic-buying-forces-stores-to-limit-purchases-of-toilet-paper-and-masks/18996211/
'It's crazy': Panic buying forces stores to limit purchases of toil...
Rationing supplies. Overwhelmed delivery workers. Toilet paper protected by security guards.
https://wwwcache.wral.com/presentation/v3/images/content/social/open_graph/wralnews_1920x1080.jpg


[07-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I see Clinton is thrusting herself back in the spotlight again


[07-Mar-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, what is she doing now?


[07-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hulu documentary, big section of it is her bitching about Sanders


[07-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember, _she was owed_


[07-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
imagine if Sanders named her VP


[07-Mar-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would be suicide


[07-Mar-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
both politically and possibly literally


[07-Mar-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they turned her bitch book into a documentary?


[07-Mar-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
TimCast vid deleted; articles he went over had nothing about armed guards (there was more than just the first one).


[07-Mar-20 07:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you didn't watch the vid then. he pointed it out in the video


[07-Mar-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he likely didnt, and it was still agreed there would be no more timcast videos posted


[07-Mar-20 07:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
at 2:39

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[07-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
also kobold you said you didn't watch the video.


[07-Mar-20 07:20 PM] ononim#8141

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[07-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so you wouldn't know either way


[07-Mar-20 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oooh in australia, well that changes everything


[07-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51760448

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51760448
Blind man denied US citizenship over Braille test
US immigration agents denied a blind man the use of Braille, causing him to fail the test.
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[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
@Nebbie so yes the armed guard is mentioned in the video. i'd suggest you wouldn't be so hasty in deleting it


[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
If that's from The Hill, tweet embeds I believe change from article load to article load.


[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AMERICA


[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure that's illegal


[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
LAND OF _FUCK YOU_


[07-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
like, massively illegal


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> He was told during the test to go and get a doctor's note to prove that he was blind, but he could not afford to do so because he does not have health insurance.


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classism 101


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
the rich can skip the test


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
@Nebbie so could I have the video be undelated?


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
the poor get pressed


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no "undelete" on Discord, and sure, you can link the first article.


[07-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The second and third articles he covered were like, nothing.


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
(second was OMG NEWSPAPER TOILET PAPER, third was some shit about YT videos)


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, the first article.


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No Timcast regurgitation.


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't have the article nor am i going to go look for it


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then fukk off.


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav the whole damn title.


[07-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
rude. but alright


[07-Mar-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
30s later https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/natural-disasters/486319-stores-limit-purchases-as-panic-buying-over

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Home Depot, Kroger's and Coles are limiting purchases to slow down ...
Toilet paper and face masks are flying off the shelves in a mad frenzy.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_emptyshelves_3620istock.jpg


[07-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the tweet isn't different from article load to article load.


[07-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait...but the tweet is misinformation. Fukking amazing.


[07-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather


[07-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Armed Guard Protects Toilet Paper" in Tim's titling


[07-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guard has no fukking weapon


[07-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESPel5dU4AA6ZL-?format=jpg&name=large

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[07-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is just a guy in a suit.


[07-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's probably not even hired extra.


[07-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
All they did differently was assign him to watch stokking.


[07-Mar-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
@prism stryder(intexda) Here we see an asset protection guy armed with the power of his mind, which in Tim's world is a deadly weapon. Remember, Antifa is everywhere and their average mindblast radius is 16.4042 feet.


[07-Mar-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i read that in the voice of rod sterling

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[07-Mar-20 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox

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iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox
Bypass Paywalls for Firefox. Contribute to iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox development by creating an account on GitHub.
https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/36013816?s=400&v=4


[07-Mar-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it works!


[07-Mar-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m glad i switched to waterfox with this computer


[07-Mar-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.foxnews.com/world/coronavirus-quarantine-hotel-collapses-in-china-trapping-70-people

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Coronavirus quarantine hotel collapses in China, trapping 70 people
A hotel in China that had been converted into a coronavirus quarantine site collapsed Saturday evening, trapping 70 people.
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[07-Mar-20 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
don't use waterfox!


[07-Mar-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
the original developer sold out and stuffed full of spyware as of recently


[07-Mar-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
use the official firefox build


[07-Mar-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess i'll do that then


[07-Mar-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i;m on firefox


[07-Mar-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Crow, you asked about this yesterday and I couldn't find a clip
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-cnn-hilary-rosen-bernie-sanders-joe-biden-mlk_n_5e63b624c5b605572805b6e0

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Nina Turner Invited Back To CNN After Hilary Rosen Drew Criticism F...
Bernie Sanders called on Joe Biden to apologize for the remarks made by Rosen, who is supporting the former vice president.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5e63be06230000c715dde370.jpeg?cache=fv34dmba8l&ops=1778_1000


[07-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
I found it https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sanders-aide-and-dem-strategist-clash-in-explosive-debate-how-dare-you-as-a-white-woman-tell-me-what-im-supposed-to-feel/

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Joe DePaolo
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sanders-aide-and-dem-strategist-clash-in-explosive-debate-how-dare-you-as-a-white-woman-tell-me-what-im-supposed-to-feel/
Sanders Aide Clashes With Dem Strategist in Fiery Debate: 'How Dare...
Sanders campaign co-chair Nina Turner got into a heated clash with Biden surrogate Hilary Rosen Thursday night over words written by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Cuomo-Prime-Time-9_26_57-PM-9_32_31-PM-09_04_20-PM-1200x675.jpg


[07-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
from going to the tweet source in that article


[07-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
and then going to the article linked in the tweet source


[07-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
lol


[07-Mar-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
guess it was too much effort to put the clip itself on the CNN article


[07-Mar-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
well, I'm not sure if this is it, but there's a video


[07-Mar-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it starts at 4:18


[07-Mar-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah that was the thing TSP was talking about a few days ago @Crow


[07-Mar-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
was something just deleted? I missed it


[07-Mar-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[07-Mar-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, I found it from that huffpost article teaspoon just linked


[07-Mar-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this link is not working for me as a paste...


[07-Mar-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hill links arent working right for me at the moment


[07-Mar-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/project-vertias-erik-prince-spies-to-infiltrate-left-wing-groups-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/project-vertias-erik-prince-spies-to-infiltrate-left-wing-groups-2020-3
A security contractor with ties to the Trump administration recruit...
Under the direction of Project Veritas, Erik Prince recruited former spies to infiltrate and expose left-leaning groups, according to a report.
https://i.insider.com/5e63cccbfee23d7dac7122f2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
that's because it's the same link pasted twice


[07-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
without a space


[07-Mar-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> infiltrate left wing groups
too late, nazis are already on derpi


[07-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda)


[07-Mar-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess firefox is jsut doing this now...


[07-Mar-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-declares-state-of-emergency-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-declares-state-of-emergency-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo declares a state of emergency and confir...
Cuomo announced that the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in New York has surged to 76.
https://i.insider.com/5c59e60470a61e6a555358e5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
plz say state of emergency involves throttling the net by just 10ms


[07-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Would wreck tradebots


[07-Mar-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-staff-ignorant-of-suspected-coronavirus-case-until-trump-remarks-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-staff-ignorant-of-suspected-coronavirus-case-until-trump-remarks-2020-3
CDC staffers only found out about a suspected case of the coronavir...
"They thought there was a problem at CDC with somebody that had the virus," Trump told reporters on Friday. The person's test came back negative.
https://i.insider.com/5e62ba2bfee23d093a026caa?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Mar-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outside-china-tenfold-increase-19-days-strong-intervention-study-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outside-china-tenfold-increase-19-days-strong-intervention-study-2020-3
The number of coronavirus cases outside China could jump tenfold ev...
Researchers believe that "34 unobserved founder patients" with "mild symptoms" triggered the spread of COVID-19 outside mainland China.
https://i.insider.com/5e63d1f0fee23d7f2f306b73?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Mar-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> jump tenfold every 19 days without 'strong intervention'
:ponythinking:


[07-Mar-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/tsa/486126-house-passes-bill-to-expand-tsa-worker-protections

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House passes bill to expand TSA worker protections
The House passed legislation Thursday aimed at expanding worker protections for Transportation Security Administration (TSA) officers to put them on par with other federal employees. Lawma
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/tsapittsburghinternationalairport_011819getty.jpg


[07-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
fire up the incinerators!


[07-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pressrun.media/p/memo-to-media-maybe-voters-dont-care

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https://pressrun.media/p/memo-to-media-maybe-voters-dont-care
Memo to media: Maybe voters don't care about Biden "gaffes"
They didn't seem to on Super Tuesday
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[07-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They just think they're lovable granpa moments


[07-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"oh, that funny Joe!"


[07-Mar-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
daww the dementia is setting in, that's adorable! He has my vote!


[07-Mar-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) or "respect the elderly" except if they're commie


[07-Mar-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
respect the child sniffer


[07-Mar-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for he has the authority to sniff your child


[07-Mar-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ring ads are dystopian as fuck


[07-Mar-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
BUY DIAMOND AND EVERYTHING FINE


[07-Mar-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"A million ways to be a neighbour. Be a good one" (because we're watching you)


[07-Mar-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I meant the camera


[07-Mar-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even worse.


[07-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Go to jared or you're a bad partner"


[07-Mar-20 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole diamond ring thing is just sick


[07-Mar-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
A GOOD CITIZEN documents the blakk people coming in, so they can be later evicted etc. etc.


[07-Mar-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a camera called ring?


[07-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"You're worth _this much_ to me", "See, I can provide, I have money, lemme smash" "I thought you loved me, wtf is this emerald shit?"


[07-Mar-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right the doorbell security camera


[07-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[07-Mar-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If he didnt go to jareds, you should just dump his ass. Trashy mother fucker"


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Trash" as in worthless as in akin to blakks.


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also the whole "proposal" thing


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason it's "*white* trash" quite often.


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only person I know that proposed with a ring and all that was one of my cousins


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The implication is blakks are always trash.


[07-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And my family makes so much fun of him for it


[08-Mar-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486457-cpac-attendee-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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CPAC attendee tests positive for coronavirus
The American Conservative Union (ACU) announced Saturday that an attendee at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) tested positive for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cpac_022819gn11_lead.jpg


[08-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie in Eastern Missouri/some other parts no one says white trash/hick/redneck, everyone says "Hoosier"


[08-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some sort of tradition of not liking people from Indiana


[08-Mar-20 12:04 AM] jlun2#8758
the conservatives are rich, they'd be fine


[08-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486470-dc-confirms-first-presumptive-case-of-coronavirus

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DC confirms first presumptive case of coronavirus
Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser announced Saturday that the city has its first presumptive case of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_030520getty_0.jpg

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[08-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/3a/a3a0ee30-8725-5c5b-83b5-ff0965b2bd01/5e63f688e60ca.image.jpg?resize=1700%2C1101

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https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/3a/a3a0ee30-8725-5c5b-83b5-ff0965b2bd01/5e63f688e60ca.image.jpg?resize=1700%2C1101


[08-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
About to crush those glasses Joe


[08-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Need hand strength for that


[08-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Grip goes to shit if you don't age well


[08-Mar-20 01:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He forgot he had them in his hand.


[08-Mar-20 01:39 AM] ononim#8141
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[08-Mar-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://time.com/5798696/aipac-coronavirus/

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[08-Mar-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
CPAC better be worried


[08-Mar-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
their constituency is all boomers


[08-Mar-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Mar-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
>jim jordan


[08-Mar-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that a parody account?


[08-Mar-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no idea


[08-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has to be


[08-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/colbyitkowitz/status/1236446922250096646

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[08-Mar-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it'd be a heck of a way to send off the stupid timeline


[08-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2020/03/first-positive-test-for-coronavirus-confirmed-in-virginia/

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[08-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Missouri's governor said on Saturday that the state now has its first COVID-19 case. The young woman who tested positive is in St. Louis County.
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[08-Mar-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
> CPAC better be worried
> their constituency is all boomers
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[08-Mar-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[08-Mar-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're fucked


[08-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The surreal part isn't him screwing up so much, it's that Boomers are A-OK with it.


[08-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not just boomers


[08-Mar-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're seeing a guy act like he wandered out of the nursing home, and they think "yep better than socialism"


[08-Mar-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gen x and apparently almost all black dems


[08-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The blakk thing is the whole "why vote for change if it can't happen and just makes them want to enslave us more?"


[08-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X is another matter, I guess they really just are so apathetic they don't care if the president can't remember what he's saying.


[08-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie makes them care, that's bad, gotta vote against that.


[08-Mar-20 05:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> They're seeing a guy act like he wandered out of the nursing home
Well, that represents the voters quite well in my experience


[08-Mar-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder how "easy" is it to manipulate Biden


[08-Mar-20 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, my mom has apparently bought into the conspiracy theory that the coronavirus was genetically modified by chinese scientists to attack the US with


[08-Mar-20 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
I guess one of her conservative talking heads described how genetic engineering could be used to potentially create a super deadly virus that kills millions, and her brain automatically latched onto some key words that made it seem logical that china created the new coronavirus outbreak


[08-Mar-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
my only response to her on that was that iran thinks the US created it to attack them with


[08-Mar-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The theory that it's an oopsie from a lab is fairly widespread, given the city where it started did have some sort of state biological testing facility


[08-Mar-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That it was specifically made of the US and this whole thing was orchestrated to eventually reach the US and take it down, though...


[08-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gen X has aggressive apathy because Boomers kept them from being politically active


[08-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But really, it's mostly their fault because they are probably the only politically disengaged generation of the last...shit, 70+ years?


[08-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, things didn't work out too badly for them


[08-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's part of the reason their whining and pseudointellectualism is funny


[08-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It really is the "I don't care about politics" generation


[08-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still had a free ride but were not allowed to fix shit.


[08-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"it doesn't matter who wins"


[08-Mar-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it's half boomers took it from them and half or slightly more they gave it to them.


[08-Mar-20 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/07/matt-gaetz-coronavirus-florida/


[08-Mar-20 06:52 AM] Crow#5457
> Days after Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wore an enormous gas mask during a House floor vote on an emergency funding package for the coronavirus response, the congressman announced that a resident in his northwestern Florida district had died of covid-19.


[08-Mar-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was he at CPAC


[08-Mar-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hope he got a great big hug


[08-Mar-20 06:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can we not forget that Kenya's a shitty country to watch MLP


[08-Mar-20 06:54 AM] Honahue#0656
most of Congress is old enough to be killed by COvid how crazy would that be if almost every district in the US had to vote new reps cause all the gereatrics died


[08-Mar-20 06:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They literally ban anything that's gay


[08-Mar-20 06:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yet MLP isn't explicitly a gay entity


[08-Mar-20 06:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue nah just ~2% probably


[08-Mar-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
+ people in congress are rich old boomers they'd probably have amazing healthcare unlike us poor peasants


[08-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
healthcare helps but it's not panacea


[08-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
2% is overall


[08-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
for Congress ages, it's more like 10%


[08-Mar-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[08-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If Trump gets it they'll hook him up to the golden throne


[08-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
reps is 400 something and senate is 100 so that's about 50 seats up for grab


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
but it's a virus so you can't just pump them full of antibiotics and tamiflu is questionanable effective


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's 3.4% overall now


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Explain this


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Some Islamic countries don't have sharia law


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And most do


[08-Mar-20 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
most Muslims live in Indonesia


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is it bad that I like the countries without the sharia law


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
there is no sharia in shia islam


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
sharia is a solely sunni thing


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, they didn't rebuke Gaetz over that


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They rebuked a guy for wearing a fukking hoodie


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Does this make Shia a less violent Islam?


[08-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point attention to a blakk kid getting shot? Removed from the floor.


[08-Mar-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mokk a deadly virus killing people? Tolerated.


[08-Mar-20 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656
every religion has a shitty side, evangelical americans, and hindu nationalists also exist


[08-Mar-20 07:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What about Shinto?


[08-Mar-20 07:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I never see Shinto being a problem


[08-Mar-20 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656
zen tteaching were uses to excuse Japanese war crimes in WW2


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's the only reason though


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Though Japan redeemed itself


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to realize about like, Buddhism and such


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Japan is still very much hated in asia for it's war crimes


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So I think Shinto is a religion I leave alone


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They like most religions involve moral certitude and putting yourself on a pedestal


[08-Mar-20 07:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Lmao


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
so I'm Asian


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That leads to hating others for being worse in some way


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Buddhist have gone to war


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus leads to genocides.


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The thing about Japan is that half of their population are Atheist


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any time you hav a way to say "X people are all bad and smelly" yadda yadda


[08-Mar-20 07:05 AM] Honahue#0656
western buddhism is just wine moms doing yoga and taoism cause fuck it they're both oriental so bassically the same right


[08-Mar-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes "kill X people"


[08-Mar-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how the Rohingya thing happened.


[08-Mar-20 07:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Okay, doesn't really mean all Asians hate Japan anyway


[08-Mar-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also how you get things like lynchings or internment camps when wars start.


[08-Mar-20 07:07 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well shit, I forgive Japan for colonizing the Philippines in the 1940s


[08-Mar-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very concept that we can just place our trust in some absolute moral authority leads inevitably to that being used by groups to target people for destruction.


[08-Mar-20 07:07 AM] Honahue#0656
no not all asia hates Japan but they still have a reputation and they still haven't completely apologized for comfort women or other shit they did


[08-Mar-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember https://aeon.co/essays/philosophy-at-war-nationalism-and-logical-analysis

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[08-Mar-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
> absolute moral authority
I keep living in that weirdo universe where there's tons of gray areas wtf


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Okay, but what about all other of the Aaian countries having a strong diplomatic relationship with Japan?


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many people submit to moral authorities, especially in religious stuff.


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
there is a lot of economic reasons to work with Japan, same reason America still trades with China


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean are the people in said countries offended?


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those religious leaders then become ways to instigate violence.


[08-Mar-20 07:09 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm asian and live under a rock with no experience of WW2 why would I hate japan @SymphonyDawn3


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] jlun2#8758
All I know of WW2 was whacky nazis and genocide in words, not in feeling. Cannot relate enough to hate


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is when you get ethics in your philosophy.


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@jlun2 China and Japan used to hate each other very much btw


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you go "well there's a German solution, an American solution, and a UK solution"


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
a few people make a shit ton of money off the economics of working with someone the majority hates but it doesn't matter that the majority hates it if the wealthy are making a killing


[08-Mar-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
you bake in ideas about what is what that you then want to reinforce


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you justify people going with their own country


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Logic flies out the window when you can twist logic into whatever you want.


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> American solution
let me join your hivemind pls


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] jlun2#8758
i feel so lonley

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[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why a strong Buddhist religion is still bad.


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] jlun2#8758
its so quiet without 300m voices


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
why not just use the best solution for whatever situation crops up


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
ばんざい is a scary Japanese word


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
strong buddism would die out in a generation or so


[08-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's never the goal, Crow.


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
BANZAI


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
💥


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
ganzi?


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
no, banzai


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Anyway


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
ba n za i


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is banzai a feared word


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
suicide


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
bomber


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah my katakana isn't perfect


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you actually believe in best solution for situation, that's rejecting borders etc.


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
well, suicide attack


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you get censored.


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] jlun2#8758
probably not right?

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[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The powers that be want philosophy that agrees with them.


[08-Mar-20 07:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So Japan used to be like ISIS?


[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
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[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want, for instance, economics to say "no war, feed the poor"


[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] jlun2#8758
Google translate butchers it badly


[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
kamikazes were suicide planes that would ram US ships in WW2


[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japanese doesn't have the letter z


[08-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Honahue#0656
japanese is notoriously hard to translate, cause so much is contextual


[08-Mar-20 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
banzai is both a sort of greeting for the japanese emperor and a sort of battle cry


[08-Mar-20 07:14 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So you say something like sai


[08-Mar-20 07:14 AM] jlun2#8758
nowadays they just crash an automous plane probably


[08-Mar-20 07:14 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So why Japan became light-hearted after being so brutal in WW2?


[08-Mar-20 07:14 AM] Crow#5457
banzai can basically be translated as "long live the emperor" too


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
or whatever you're saying


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] Crow#5457
like "[thing] banzai"


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@SymphonyDawn3 people change


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's funny that Americans like the enemy


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because of Anime, sushi, manga etc


[08-Mar-20 07:15 AM] jlun2#8758
especially if no one has memories of it outside a bunch of 90+ year olds


[08-Mar-20 07:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@SymphonyDawn3 dont worry, just give another century and if middle east has some cultural equavalent, it'll occur


[08-Mar-20 07:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I think the Silent Generation gives a shit


[08-Mar-20 07:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk with Baby Boomers


[08-Mar-20 07:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've seen Baby Boomers retiring in Japan


[08-Mar-20 07:18 AM] Honahue#0656
there;s some cheap property in Japan but I don't think a lot of boomer american's are retiring there


[08-Mar-20 07:18 AM] jlun2#8758
where do boomers even retire to


[08-Mar-20 07:18 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/EhzCuL4g1Jw

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[08-Mar-20 07:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I know 1/3 of homes are owned by them


[08-Mar-20 07:19 AM] jlun2#8758
but no idea where


[08-Mar-20 07:19 AM] Honahue#0656
especially cause if you do buy some abandoned property on the cheap by Japanese law most of the restoration has to be done by a professional


[08-Mar-20 07:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This explains why the Japanese respects the Americans


[08-Mar-20 07:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Anyway, Japanese nowadays eat some western food


[08-Mar-20 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and a lot of japanesed english words


[08-Mar-20 07:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japan is like...semi westernized?


[08-Mar-20 07:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because of trade of course


[08-Mar-20 07:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> semi
well thankfully not completely, or we'll get Japanese Trump


[08-Mar-20 07:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japan is too liberal to be westernized


[08-Mar-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
cause most boomers would rather slap dash repair a house but Japan smartly wants repairs done well cause you know earthquakes and typhoons something most boomer americans don't deal with


[08-Mar-20 07:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Any difference between Japanese boomers?


[08-Mar-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
what? japan westernized in the 1800's


[08-Mar-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's why they became so imperialistic to begin with


[08-Mar-20 07:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Crow not as much today


[08-Mar-20 07:22 AM] jlun2#8758
iirc @Nebbie mentioned Japanese boomers go ask them maybe?


[08-Mar-20 07:22 AM] jlun2#8758
I know nothing about them sorry


[08-Mar-20 07:22 AM] jlun2#8758
and if you don't, sorry for ping


[08-Mar-20 07:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well


[08-Mar-20 07:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You can say "ok boomer" in Japanese


[08-Mar-20 07:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Lol


[08-Mar-20 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Japan does have it's own boomer that mess up policy but not like American boomers


[08-Mar-20 07:24 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japanese boomers are not as hated I suppose


[08-Mar-20 07:24 AM] Honahue#0656
well they don't go for imperialism at least but they do other weird things


[08-Mar-20 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
like Japan's criminal justice system is not good, something like a 99.8% conviction rate


[08-Mar-20 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
horribly corrupt


[08-Mar-20 07:26 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816

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[08-Mar-20 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
Bulma


[08-Mar-20 07:26 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So


[08-Mar-20 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
so the dashes extend the vowels


[08-Mar-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
iirc japan's court system is practically guilty until proven innocent


[08-Mar-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
the defendant has to prove they aren't guilty


[08-Mar-20 07:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not really a problem


[08-Mar-20 07:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Japan has a low crime history


[08-Mar-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
unlike in the US, where the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
it's "not a problem" until it is


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
> where the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty
no worries we have 💰


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I never heard of any major crime in Japan


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Since the Kawasaki stabbing


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack

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Kyoto Animation arson attack
The Kyoto Animation arson attack (Japanese: 京都アニメーション放火事件, Hepburn: Kyōto Animēshon hōka jiken) occurred at Kyoto Animation's Studio 1 building in the Fushimi ward of Kyoto, Japan, on the morning of 18 July 2019. The arson killed at least 36 people, injured an additional 33, a...
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[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
then you haven't looked closely enough


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have people going amok


[08-Mar-20 07:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Those things are not as common though


[08-Mar-20 07:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@SymphonyDawn3 the fire arsonist with knives that  killed like 1/2 the staff of an anime studio rip


[08-Mar-20 07:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Still


[08-Mar-20 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Japan's judicial system is "you're guilty"


[08-Mar-20 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you get accused, you're guilty, that's the end of the process


[08-Mar-20 07:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Being guilty is deserving for arsonists


[08-Mar-20 07:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Just saying that you're a bit safer in Japan


[08-Mar-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
japan has 1500 wrongful convictions a year, but basically none of them are officially recognized as such


[08-Mar-20 07:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm talking about the violent crimes


[08-Mar-20 07:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not the all nonviolent crimes


[08-Mar-20 07:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The violent crimes are incredibly uncommon


[08-Mar-20 07:31 AM] Honahue#0656
yes Japan does have a pretty low crime rate but that doesn't excuse a highly corrupt court system


[08-Mar-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/world/2015/12/13/9989250/japan-crime-conviction-rate

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Japan has exceptionally low crime rates. But there's a dark side to...
The system relies a lot — seemingly too much — on confessions.
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[08-Mar-20 07:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yes, but isn't low crime a benefit though


[08-Mar-20 07:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
For the foreigners


[08-Mar-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
they have 23 days to extract a confession


[08-Mar-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
that's how long they can hold you without charging you with a crime


[08-Mar-20 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
> Prosecutors put pressure on the police to extract confessions, and 23 days is plenty of time to extract one. Interrogators sometimes ram tables into a suspect, stamp on his feet or shout in his ears. Interviews can last for eight hours or more. Suspects are deprived of sleep and forced into physically awkward positions. Few people can withstand such treatment. "Not being able to sleep was the hardest for me," says Kazuo Ishikawa, who held out for 30 days before signing a confession he couldn’t read (he was illiterate at the time) to a murder he says he didn’t commit. He spent 32 years in prison and is still fighting to be exonerated.


[08-Mar-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How long they can question you for hours on end with investigators taking turns


[08-Mar-20 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
> "Not being able to sleep was the hardest for me," says Kazuo Ishikawa, who held out for 30 days before signing a confession he couldn’t read (he was illiterate at the time) to a murder he says he didn’t commit. He spent 32 years in prison and is still fighting to be exonerated.


[08-Mar-20 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
the thing I don't understand about japan was the weird samurai hair styles


[08-Mar-20 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656

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[08-Mar-20 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
shave the center than flop a ponytail on top


[08-Mar-20 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
I think it was considered a shameful thing to cut your hair or something


[08-Mar-20 07:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably started with noble folk going bald and not being able to cope so they just made bald the norm


[08-Mar-20 09:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/921ad7f1f08d7634bf681ba785faf269

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Official: White House didn't want to tell seniors not to fly
NEW YORK (AP) — The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new...
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[08-Mar-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Mar-20 09:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
please let this be true...


[08-Mar-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-grandfather-died-spanish-flu-a9384986.html

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Trump claims he had no idea people die of influenza despite his gra...
Fredrich Trump of Queens, New York, died from the Spanish flu in 1918
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[08-Mar-20 09:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Here's where Trump said he doesn't know if he agrees with proactive efforts to identify coronavirus trouble spots, since "you'll find out those areas just by sitting back and waiting."
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[08-Mar-20 10:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html

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Trump says the coronavirus is the Democrats' 'new hoax'
President Donald Trump said Friday that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a "hoax" to damage him and his administration.
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[08-Mar-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old news


[08-Mar-20 12:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://kmox.radio.com/galleries/pics-joe-biden-speaks-of-unity-in-st-louis-dairy-protesters-and-others-disrupt

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PICS: Joe Biden speaks of unity in St. Louis, dairy protesters and ...
ST. LOUIS (KFTK) - Joe Biden visited downtown St. Louis on Saturday before the Missouri primary on Tuesday. Biden spoke to a crowd of about 1500 people.
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[08-Mar-20 12:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel like veganism/animal rights is one part of leftism that really isn't popular


[08-Mar-20 01:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, when you've got groups like PETA and the legacy of Greenpeace spearheading the movement, that's to be expected


[08-Mar-20 01:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> Let diary die
Sure. Farmer lobby though


[08-Mar-20 01:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let's see which group to pander to the ones you need to win Pennsylvania and Ohio or random PETA people


[08-Mar-20 01:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[08-Mar-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
that, and people kind of do like their meat *shrug*


[08-Mar-20 01:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I know I do, and while I aknowledge some things in the industry are highly problematic, I'm not ready to give up the benefits. Especially considering that no individual effort makes a difference.


[08-Mar-20 01:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Domesticated animals exist to serve humans and/or be served by humans.


[08-Mar-20 01:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486481-green-new-deal-advocate-claims-win-over-hickenlooper-in-colorado-caucuses#

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Green New Deal advocate claims win over Hickenlooper in Colorado ca...
Andrew Romanoff, a staunch progressive who has championed policies such as the Green New Deal, on Saturday claimed victory over former Colorado Gov.
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[08-Mar-20 01:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Romanoff


[08-Mar-20 01:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder if he can get Rasputin to help him win


[08-Mar-20 02:03 PM] byte[]#2610
animal farming is highly unethical for hundreds of reasons and the ethics of whether eating other sapient beings is okay only appears one time on that list


[08-Mar-20 02:03 PM] byte[]#2610
how about the numbers of ways animals are abused or the totally insane level of greenhouse emissions caused by animal farming


[08-Mar-20 02:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah there's some stuff but these are the people who want humans to drink breast milk or something


[08-Mar-20 02:05 PM] byte[]#2610
as usual, PETA's incompetence has masked a real, serious problem that they want to bring attention to


[08-Mar-20 02:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget if it was them or some other group but zi swear one of the stances was to kill all pets and livestock


[08-Mar-20 02:06 PM] byte[]#2610
animal agriculture is responsible for _almost 20%_ of anthropocene greenhouse emissions


[08-Mar-20 02:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you let them live more people will just want them again


[08-Mar-20 02:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey do you want a pound of beef to be $6 or $30


[08-Mar-20 02:06 PM] byte[]#2610
so I think it's a nuanced question for protestors to ask, can you validly care about emissions and still eat meat?


[08-Mar-20 02:07 PM] byte[]#2610
not just a "duh, obviously you can"


[08-Mar-20 02:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course


[08-Mar-20 02:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But when you've got a borderline fascist who blames Hollywood celebrities for shit running Brazil it doesn't even matter


[08-Mar-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't care what a pound of beef costs. Hopefully we will develop a lab-grown substitute that tastes and feels pretty much exactly like it and is a dollar per pound and we can stop having this discussion


[08-Mar-20 02:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People wanting cheap beef is why the problem exists.


[08-Mar-20 02:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You already see people go "lol Canada has beef cost like $15 here in the US it's $5"


[08-Mar-20 02:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
$15 is more accurate to what it costs to make it and the impact it has but good fucking luck getting the beef lobby to do that


[08-Mar-20 02:11 PM] byte[]#2610
hopefully the real beef will one day become unobtanium


[08-Mar-20 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
and it can be relegated to people who own one or two cows


[08-Mar-20 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
not hundreds of thousands in CAFOs


[08-Mar-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
if it becomes unobtanium, it will be relegated to only the rich.


[08-Mar-20 02:13 PM] byte[]#2610
that is still better than the current situation, because it means less overall animal abuse, less unethical farming, less greenhouse emissions, etc.


[08-Mar-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
granted, with vastly diminished demand it would be easier on the cows.


[08-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the hope is also that, save seizing the means of production, we can get the super rich to alter their preferences


[08-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
it will be generational change


[08-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
boomers, X, and Y won't want to change


[08-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Z will probably be more willing to accept lab alternatives


[08-Mar-20 02:16 PM] byte[]#2610
and DE will not have any problem with them


[08-Mar-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
because they'll be starving.


[08-Mar-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
sorry, I'll stop. This emoji isn't fit for this.


[08-Mar-20 02:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know how far off lab-grown meat substitute is. And if there will be one, the tech would have much more exciting uses, like grown or printed replacement organs.


[08-Mar-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
regardless, though, I don't expect to live to see it, so I don't care about it much.


[08-Mar-20 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
they're nearly here


[08-Mar-20 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Impossible is making beef, Beyond is making beef and chicken


[08-Mar-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I guess I'm once again behind the curve then. That's pretty curious.


[08-Mar-20 02:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Tbqh it's already pretty close to the real thing


[08-Mar-20 02:21 PM] ononim#8141
Imagine the fucking affordable and ethical (as in pollution and labour wise) lab meat


[08-Mar-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be something, indeed.


[08-Mar-20 02:21 PM] ononim#8141
I can finally eat proper khinkali and shashlyk again


[08-Mar-20 02:22 PM] ononim#8141
also I guess pasta with bacon


[08-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/486484-civil-rights-activist-jesse-jackson-endorses-sanders#

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Civil rights activist Jesse Jackson endorses Sanders
Civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for president, the campaign announced Sunday.
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[08-Mar-20 02:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/27/us/jackson-admits-saying-hymie-and-apologizes-at-a-synagogue.html

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By Fay S. Joyce
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JACKSON ADMITS SAYING 'HYMIE' AND APOLOGIZES AT A SYNAGOGUE
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[08-Mar-20 02:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What a change


[08-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, it's a jew thing.


[08-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
well, this is what


[08-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
36 years?


[08-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
people change in far less than that.


[08-Mar-20 02:46 PM] Opponent#3498
also I didn't realise NYT had an online archive of their stuff. That's pretty cool.


[08-Mar-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486480-kamala-harris-endorses-biden-presidential-bid

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Kamala Harris endorses Biden's presidential bid
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) announced her endorsement of Joe Biden's White House bid Sunday morning, saying that the former vice president “speaks to the best of who we are and challenges us to live up to our ideals.”
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[08-Mar-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/486497-trump-fake-news-media-is-doing-everything-possible-to

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Trump: 'Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us loo...
President Trump in an early morning tweet on Sunday accused the “Fake News Media” of attempting to “make us look bad” on the administration's coronavirus response.
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[08-Mar-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/486411-experts-warn-epa-making-secret-science-rule-more-restrictive

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Experts warn EPA making 'secret science' rule more restrictive
The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) latest rewrite of its science transparency rule may be even more restrictive than the last one, scientists say, expanding the reach of a rule that limits consideration of studies that don’t make their underlying data public.
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[08-Mar-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/paxthedog/status/1236412661723774981?s=21

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dog account (@paxthedog)
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I’m still not entirely sure how to process the “coronavirus prevention is actually cultural appropriation” absolute miracle of a Tweet
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[08-Mar-20 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Mar-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/486356-lawmakers-reprimand-top-doj-antitrust-official-for-giving-lobbying-advice

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Dems reprimand top DOJ antitrust official for giving 'lobbying advi...
A group of House and Senate Democrats on Friday reprimanded the Department of Justice's (DOJ) top antitrust enforcer for giving "lobbying advice" to a private company ahead of the controversial T-Mobile-Sprint merger.
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[08-Mar-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
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Baby boomers...
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[08-Mar-20 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
SEING THOSE COLONISERS EMBRACE HYGENE NOW THAT IT MIGHT SUDDENLY IMPACT THEM :glowing_eyes:


[08-Mar-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
those immortal, invulnerable colonists who never cared about hygene because they never got sick


[08-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
and those enlightened oriental people, who faced epidemic after epidemic despite having immaculate manners as part of their tradition


[08-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I feel sometimes people don't really think through what they're saying xD


[08-Mar-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
they never do


[08-Mar-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Mar-20 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/486396-warren-exits-and-our-hopes-for-a-woman-president-once-again-are-dashed

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Warren exits, and our hopes for a woman president once again are da...
Our democracy needs more than just a 'women's lane' in politics.
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[08-Mar-20 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look, it's going to be Haley, Ivanka, or Ocasio-Cortez.


[08-Mar-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will be oprah, and we'll all have to walk away with that


[08-Mar-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
really wish oprah would just fuck off


[08-Mar-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
GABBARD


[08-Mar-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think she'll ever run for president, it would fuck with her talk show infomercial business too much


[08-Mar-20 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah she doesn't really do much


[08-Mar-20 05:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She could run. Because why the hell not? More likeable than Bloomberg.


[08-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Harris feels like an anti-endorsement


[08-Mar-20 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think you'll ever have someone who was a prosecutor become a Democratic nominee


[08-Mar-20 06:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[08-Mar-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-expert-tells-elderly-dont-get-on-cruise-ship-2020-3

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Trump's top disease expert tells the elderly 'just don't get on a c...
In an appearance on Meet the Press, Dr. Anthony Fauci said the elderly should not be traveling and "above all, don't get on a cruise ship."
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[08-Mar-20 06:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/colbyitkowitz/status/1236446922250096646

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Colby Itkowitz (@ColbyItkowitz)
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CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp tells me he interacted with attendee who has tested positive for coronavirus. While the timeline is unknown, Schlapp shook Trump's hand on stage the last day of the conference.  https://t.co/lR5DfHiy8c
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[08-Mar-20 06:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Matt Slipper Slappity Schlapp does the Lord's work


[08-Mar-20 06:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
After the revolution he shall be beatified as a saint to American Communism


[08-Mar-20 06:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Named the patron saint of bio-terror

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[08-Mar-20 06:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/03/05/covid-19-microsoft-hourly-workers/

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https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/03/05/covid-19-microsoft-hourly-workers/
As we work to protect public health, we also need to protect the in...
Microsoft has asked its employees who can work from home to do so due to the impact of COVID-19. Despite this meaning a reduced need for many of the hourly workers vital to our daily operations, we’ve decided that Microsoft will continue to pay their regular pay during this pe...
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[08-Mar-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
>we've decided


[08-Mar-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
...


[08-Mar-20 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well, what are they supposed to say?


[08-Mar-20 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it should be implied, shouldn't it?
"it would be immoral of us not to pay our employees"


[08-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
pfft.


[08-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean they're better than Apple, but not by that much that 'morality' would enter the corporate decisions.


[08-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2020/03/06/how-white-house-is-protecting-trump-from-the-coronavirus/

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How the White House protects Trump and his staff from coronavirus
White House is holding meetings on how to reduce the threat of coronavirus infecting President Trump and his staff after quietly tightening visitor rules last month.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/usa-trump-coronavirus.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[08-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
this is them taking advantage of the situation to earn some goodwill of it's employees and onlookers.


[08-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and I honestly gotta say, if this is how corporations are going to earn their goodwill, I'm down with that.


[08-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think the point is they're hourly employees that'll be tending empty offices and they're not salaried workers


[08-Mar-20 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How massive corps work is beyond my full understanding, ie. the places that have shops and cafes inside their offices / campuses


[08-Mar-20 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
not nessesarily that; only hourly employees would see this situation as a threat to themselves, so this is adressed to them.


[08-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't expect salaried ones somehow being less vulnerable, or overwhelmingly in positions that demand their presence on-site


[08-Mar-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, salaried employees would _generally_ be fine, unless the impact to operations / profit from all this is p.bad


[08-Mar-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
More an issue for much smaller companies than for MS or the like that can probably manage an entire year of 0 revenue without needing to "let go" of anyone


[08-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/686280026529726492/FB_IMG_1583692298441.jpg

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[08-Mar-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-michigan/battleground-michigan-seen-as-last-stand-for-bernie-sanders-idUSKBN20V0DS

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Battleground Michigan seen as last stand for Bernie Sanders
For Bernie Sanders to remain competitive with Joe Biden in the battle for the De...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200308&t=2&i=1500331895&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG270AZ


[08-Mar-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty much yep


[08-Mar-20 08:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think one of my family members has the virus


[08-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://twitter.com/wane15/status/1236698779367223298

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WANE 15 (@wane15)
https://twitter.com/wane15/status/1236698779367223298
#BREAKING: The Indiana State Department of Health has confirmed a second positive case of COVID-19 in the state. https://t.co/jFsCQbTRYz
Twitter


[08-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Indiana is going to fail with this virus i can tell already


[08-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/is-your-meth-contaminated-with-coronavirus-this-indiana-police-department-will-test-it-for-you

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Is your meth contaminated with coronavirus? This Indiana police dep...
Is your meth contaminated with the coronavirus? This Indiana police department is offering to test it for you to make sure you're safe.
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[08-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[08-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the sad thing is


[08-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Midknight#9798
hahaha


[08-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
this state is terrible


[08-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the doctors here are clueless


[08-Mar-20 09:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
they cant even tell what is even a broken foot


[08-Mar-20 09:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and my grandfather is already sick


[08-Mar-20 09:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
he went to Chicago a couple weeks ago and is coughing and haggling


[08-Mar-20 09:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
this state is going to fail


[08-Mar-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/686301034187849794/ESX1Aa_XYAMusYz.png

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[08-Mar-20 09:05 PM] Midknight#9798
That last line should be "No Food, Water, ***or*** Shelter"

And then there should be a bigger line at the base that says "No Food, Water, ***and*** Shelter"


[08-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be illegal for a candidate to pay off other candidates so they drop out, right?


[08-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No way is that legal, but it would have made more sense for Bloomberg


[08-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/486494-a-biden-bernie-ticket-can-defeat-trump-and-defend-democracy

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A Biden-Bernie ticket can defeat Trump and defend democracy
The Democrats must form a coalition. The presidential ticket should be Biden-Bernie, or even Bernie-Biden.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_bidenjoe_030520upi_lead.jpg


[08-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Statler/Waldorf 2020


[08-Mar-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No way people would vote for a ticket where both can die from a particularly bad cold


[08-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then we just get Nancy Pelosi.


[08-Mar-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with some hope trump will be taken out by a certain democratic hoax


[08-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only if it's simultaneous, Its.


[08-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, no, we get *Warren*


[08-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait


[08-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
we do get Pelosi


[08-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pelosi/Grassley.


[08-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She wouldn't be able to pick a VP?


[08-Mar-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt be an election, it would be a chain of command thing


[08-Mar-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be her as president, and whoever would be next in line for president should she fall as VP


[08-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I think she could, but it'd be after Grassley becomes VP.


[08-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if both P and VP go away at once, then BAM, 3rd and 4th in line become such.


[08-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Knowing Pelosi...she might even keep Grassley on purpose to show she's willing to work with assholes that screw her over at every turn.


[08-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's so frustrating hearing Biden endorsers just keep saying "he'll bring us together" and no one says jack shit about his policies or ideals


[08-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't really have any. But he appeals to the right kind of people.


[08-Mar-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He's a moderate! It's the conventional way!"


[08-Mar-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he brings in rich people, that's the unity


[08-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talking about policy or ideals leads to people who challenge shitting on brown children.


[08-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's divisive, you know.


[08-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can't be having that.


[08-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav to just shut up and kill muslims and mexicans.


[08-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden endorsers are people that you don't keep on if you evacuate to a new planet.


[08-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You leave them behind to die.


[08-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even the black boomers?


[08-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[08-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The attitude of "yes we're still doing horrible things, but let's just not talk about it" is like the worst thing you can HAV in politics, Its.


[08-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an attitude that makes fascists easily gain power.


[08-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the attitude of fishhook theory.


[08-Mar-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uncle Ruckus


[08-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The centrists see the left as divisive because they hate the right killing people, so they join up with the right to silence everything and keep the killing going.


[08-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
MLK had it right.


[08-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Leftism was associated with foreigners in the American consciousness


[08-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
When people shut up and just don't say workers etc. need rights, minorities get trampled.


[08-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
MLK is an icon of Dems, but Bernie's camp is the only one among them that actually tries to do what MLK said to.


[08-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's camp is premised on rejecting socialism and any serious pushes for equality.


[08-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
In all seriousness, MLK would if he were alive today be trying to push Bernie further left.


[08-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That we forget that is a problem.


[08-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
A problem created by types like Biden.


[08-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who go around erasing legacies of leftists with a tidal wave of centrism.


[08-Mar-20 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
neoliberals want to whitewash MLK's socialist ideas


[08-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very pretense that like, Hillary or Biden could've shaken hands with MLK as a serious ally of him is a dangerous bit of misinformation.


[08-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why assassinations are really effective against iconic leaders.


[08-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can later go in and pretend the icon would've supported you, long after your faction killed him.


[08-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many will just accept this without question, especially when they see another faction that's a bit more extreme saying they didn't really like the guy, as you praise him.


[08-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thru association, your praise for the icon leads to people thinking the icon would praise you.


[08-Mar-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486523-trump-his-campaign-promotes-edited-biden-video

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Trump, his campaign promotes edited Biden video
President Trump and his campaign promoted an edited video of former Vice President Joe Biden that incorrectly made it seem like he endorsed a Trump reelection.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_trumpdonald_030620getty_split.jpg


[08-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/686326708697301096/rif-1583703434018.jpg

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[08-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
ask them at the end, the drugs that're supporting his lucidity are still in effect at the beginning


[08-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/686330379225137178/rif-1583704305488.jpg

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[08-Mar-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So it turns out independents don't like candidates who run to the center?


[08-Mar-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost like waffling candidates aren't popular with non loyalist voters


[08-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents don't like candidates who toe the line.


[08-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They tend to be people who are ideologically similar to either party, but who just dislike its control.


[08-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the sort that see how corrupt and shitty the whole party system is.


[08-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden REEKS of DNC influence.


[08-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden will be dumb enough to not realize he won as a part of a coalition ticket.


[08-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2008 "progressive" Dem and a 2008 "moderate" senator (scared Republican)


[08-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2eiPTqiTg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2eiPTqiTg
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UPDATE: The hunger strike ended Friday evening, after school administration agreed to at least discuss many of the Black Emergency Response Team's demands.  The school president is even committing to a 'student advisory council' to help with the review of the employment of Pro...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OX2eiPTqiTg/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dow's still going down


[08-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dow future down around 1000 points


[08-Mar-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
@Sunnyside none of this guy either


[08-Mar-20 11:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how many people are gonna bug chase and then go to political rallies and events...


[08-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what's wrong with this guy? He cites his sources in the description.


[08-Mar-20 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why not just link the sources then?


[08-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because he includes in the vid description


[08-Mar-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah so go intot he description, copy the source links and post them here


[08-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no need as it's in the video link? I don't see an issue sharing this guy's video


[08-Mar-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is third party telling us his interpretation, vs just giving us the articles directly


[08-Mar-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit like posting a youtube poop that gives the source of the video it;s parodying vs just giving you the video it;s parodying directly


[08-Mar-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Here's the crystal pepsi training video! sorry, you'll have to go through this youtube poop to get tto it"


[08-Mar-20 11:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, like, even if you don't have a problem with his interpretation, I'd rather have a discussion about the topic than someone's perspective on the topic


[08-Mar-20 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I get that maybe you might want to share that 'cause you think he does a good job summarizing and analyzing it better than you can, but two things come with doing it that way. One, it means you have to be prepared to defend his position as if it's your own. Two, if you keep doing that for everything you bring up in here, it makes other people think you just take their opinions at face value


[08-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God it's so depressing watching all these pundits and politicians celebrating how they've fucked themselves over

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[08-Mar-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"YEAH! we essentially voted republican!"


[08-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what they've always wanted.


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
To vote Republican without voting Republican.


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not even Biden's (lack of) policies


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's that he's going to get fucking destroyed


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If he doesn't destroy himself first


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He can beat trump because Trumpm can't play the socialist card against him, guys!"


[08-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're chasing the hardcore democrat vote and living in a lala land where independents will think Biden is worth something


[08-Mar-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like they want young people to sit out election day to the point where Trump has a real shot.


[09-Mar-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best we can hope for now is either bernie wins massacheussets, or Trump and pence both die horribly of coronavirus


[09-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Michigan


[09-Mar-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right


[09-Mar-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
too many states going separately


[09-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 is massively projecting Biden at this point.


[09-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
After ST he just went to like a third in the polls.


[09-Mar-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the coronavirus option then...


[09-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just want Chuck Todd to run in 2024.


[09-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the hope at this point is Coronavirus starts hitting Biden voters, and then Biden flounders statements while Bernie is talking about free testing.


[09-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a super long shot, almost as much as Biden just dropping dead.


[09-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He could get infected and be hospitalized a while, but I suspect his ridiculously good healthcare will keep him alive.


[09-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then as soon as he's stable, he rebounds cause people think he won't just drop dead in a year.


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One thing I've heard about the difference between Democrats and the GOP is that the GOP will never respect anyone but the most recent Republican president


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile you still have Democrats who cream themselves over FDR


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan tho


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, disliked now.


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan took guns from blakk people


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still respect him.


[09-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have plenty of other Republicans who hate black people


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not special


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Havn't you seen like


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
articles about people speculating that Reagan would be okay with gay marriage?


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People also dislike neocons a lot now so


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite Reagan being a guy who said people with AIDS shouldn't be allowed to go to school, believing it to be god's vengeance.


[09-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan didn't even mention AIDS until one of his Hollywood friends was dying of it.


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but like


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
when he talked about it


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was always super bad


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
he didn't know shit


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
he acted like gay people were lepers.


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> Meanwhile you still have Democrats who cream themselves over FDR


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
FDR wanted health care for all


[09-Mar-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
died before he got it


[09-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
FDR was also a president who won 4 consecutive elections.


[09-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy accomplished more than most Republicans period.


[09-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kind of wanted his court packing to work


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By the 1980s or so we would have had to reform the whole Supreme Court because we would have 50+ justices or something


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
FDR prolonged the depression through poor management and was rather racists


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where are you even getting this?


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also no, I am not a time traveler who was around when that happened, pure poppycock


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the only reason we got out of the depression was because of ww2


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WHAT


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[09-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most historians strongly blame Hoover for prolonging the depression.


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not at all


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My God


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was done by like 1938


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hoover's austerity and lakk of policy direction was killer


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Hoover's plans would've worked if given a couple more years.


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
What plans?


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
at least from the historians i've read


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He had no plans.


[09-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop reading shitty revisionists.


[09-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guys it's simple, Hoover was a good conservative and FDR was a libtard


[09-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dam, baby, dam" is not an answer to the Depression


[09-Mar-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
If Hoover was so smart why didn't he put us on the moon


[09-Mar-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
check mate republicans


[09-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm looking into it and all I can find is that Hoover increased federal spending overall.


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was extremely hands-off about what corporations actually did, aside of raising wages


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
he tried to stop immigration period while saying companies could do whatever


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he set up some loan programs to farmers


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
loans are great and all but like


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
this isn't your Public Works Administration


[09-Mar-20 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fun-fact about Hoover: he didn't like to see poor people at all. When he was overseeing the relief efforts to the Belgians post-war someone made the mistake of dragging him off to a relief camp to check shit out. Hoover threatened to destroy the dude's whole career for putting him through the unpleasantness of seeing people in a shitty spot.


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao seriously


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Psker, have you ever heard of a "hoover blanket"


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hoover Hotel


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
He also didn't like to be surveying the Mississippi valley flood. But that's also because he was literally shot at.


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hoover Flag


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Etc


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also MASSIVELY raised tariffs


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://centerforindividualism.org/the-new-deal-prolonged-and-worsened-the-great-depression/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0f7_0YCM6AIVi4bACh0t2wNGEAAYASAAEgJ0svD_BwE
https://mises.org/library/how-fdr-made-depression-worse
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/opinion/columnists/national/thomas-sowell-fdr-s-policies-prolonged-great-depression/article_3f80432e-e6c5-11df-affe-001cc4c03286.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123353276749137485

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How the New Deal Worsened the Great Depression
There is this belief that by intervening and implementing the New Deal, FDR saved Americans from the depths of the Great Depression. But in fact, the opposite was true. FDR’s New Deal actually prolonged the Depression and made it far worse than it otherwise would have been.
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How FDR Made the Depression Worse | Robert Higgs
The Free Market 13, no. 2 (February 1995)
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THOMAS SOWELL: FDR’s policies prolonged Great Depression
Guess who said the following: "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work." Was it Sarah Palin? Rush

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How Government Prolonged the Depression
Policies that decreased competition in product and labor markets were especially destructive.
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[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hooverville


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
which made the depression worse


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.ff.org/fdrs-policies-prolonged-depression-by-7-years-ucla-economists-calculate/

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FDR’s policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists cal...
by Meg Sullivan     •     UCLA Newsroom

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's r...
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[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
>Mises Institute


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the garbage


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy yeah


[09-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/policy-report/2003/7/powell.pdf


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://money.cnn.com/2009/02/10/news/economy/yang_newdeal.fortune/index.htm


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
All readers of Mises or AnCap anything will be shot for brain worms after the revolution


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Psker, you *desperately* need to get out of your misinformation bubble


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
No exception


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>center for individualism
>wsj


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the second source


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
"There's no doubt that Roosevelt changed the character of the American government—for the worse. Many of the reforms of the 1930s remain embedded in policy today: acreage allotments, price supports and marketing controls in agriculture, extensive regulation of private securities, federal intrusion into union-management relations, government lending and insurance activities, the minimum wage, national unemployment insurance, Social Security and welfare payments, production and sale of electrical power by the federal government, fiat money—the list goes on."


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
psker


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
half this shit was HOOVER's DOING


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hoover did the marketing controls


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the government lending


[09-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the minimum wage


[09-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the way they worded this


[09-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They said "many of the reforms of the 1930s"


[09-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hoover was still in office in the early 30s


[09-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just slandered Roosevelt by intentionally conflating many of Hoover's policies with his.


[09-Mar-20 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other words, don't get your history from Archie Bunker


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the first source


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
"As discussed previously, booms and busts occur in the market when governments meddle in the economy as they do. If left alone, the market will correct itself and the economy can be prosperous once again."


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I will not read this drivel any further.


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
le read Ida Tarbell


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally starting out by laying out its essential assumption that the market can only do wrong if the gov't intervenes.


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Actually, literally read anything but Libertarian stuff.


[09-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
From that assumption, it is impossible to ever prove whether the gov't did good or bad.


[09-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-arizona-debate-123467

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Sanders, Biden camps clash over Arizona debate format
A proposal to have the candidates seated for the first time sparks tension.
https://static.politico.com/7d/71/d386481d44b7bc90099d2f93a561/200307-biden-sanders-debate-getty-773.jpg


[09-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't start out your argument essay on why potatos are brown by saying "All vegetables are brown".


[09-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, unless you're a free market ideolog dipshit who wants to say that AKSHUALLY ONLY GOVERNMENT IS WHY WE THINK THEY ARE GREEN.


[09-Mar-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
not to mention that the tangent that led us here was whataboutism


[09-Mar-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
"FDR wanted people to have health care" "yeah but what about how he prolonged the depression and was racist"


[09-Mar-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Mar-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
(not to mention that at least one of those things is not empirically verifiable)


[09-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, what Hoover really did that was good was towards the end


[09-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically started the New Deal in concept


[09-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
After long years of suffering, he was finally forced into actually doing shit


[09-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Roosevelt came along and was like "you know this could be good if we do more"


[09-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, maybe if the progressive icon and the anti-poor shithead actually kind of agreed on the solution to the problem, because the latter had been forced to deal with things, it MIGHT JUST MAYBE mean that it was actually the right course of action, or at least a reasonable one to take.


[09-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But no, let's blame minimum wage law for bad economies regardless of what studies show actually happens when you boost wages.


[09-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and directly against what basic economic reasoning says about spending power and how important it is workers can afford shit)


[09-Mar-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
economists, despite largely being conservatives living in fantasy realities, don't even universally think increasing min wage is bad


[09-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cruz possibly infected


[09-Mar-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486521-oregon-declares-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus-outbreak

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Oregon declares state of emergency over coronavirus outbreak
Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) declared a state of emergency over the coronavirus outbreak as the number of confirmed cases in the state doubled to a total of 14, Brown announced Sunday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/brownkate_10142019getty.jpg


[09-Mar-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h85i4fwgwfl41.jpg

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[09-Mar-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486487-sanders-i-never-expected-in-my-life-as-an-american-to-see-a-swastika-at-a

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Sanders: 'I never expected in my life, as an American, to see a swa...
Sen.
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[09-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1236790420253954050

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Today I released the following statement:
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[09-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
"the average incubation period is 5-6 days"


[09-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
either he's blatantly lying, or someone lied to him


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, 5 is actually average, but it has huge variance.


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
he's waiting 14 days, which is the lower end of the higher incubation period


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
1-14 days.


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is what the WHO currently says.


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Data might be bad, tho.


[09-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're having trouble with identifying transmission chains.


[09-Mar-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486536-trump-jr-challenges-hunter-biden-to-debate-him-over-who-has

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Trump Jr. challenges Hunter Biden to debate him over who has benefi...
Donald Trump Jr. said in an interview released on Sunday that he wants to debate Hunter Biden over who has benefited the most financially off of their fathers' time in office.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpjrdon_020519gn_lead.jpg


[09-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God he's such a tryhard


[09-Mar-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Yeah, well my daddy loves me more than you!"


[09-Mar-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really needs to just accept the fact that his dad replaced him with jared kushner


[09-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also used the interview to whine about his dad, who would call him telling him to calm down


[09-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So apparently crude oil prices dropped massively over disputes between Russia and OPEC; anyone have more info on that and its potential effects?


[09-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I live in California and gas still up at $3.49


[09-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Apparently a lot of states have been getting it a lot better


[09-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think a worry is if prices crater it'll kill shale oil (fracking) in the US


[09-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, economical worry


[09-Mar-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/oil-price-crash-market-drop-global-price-war-futures-coronavirus-2020-3

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Oil plummets 31% in biggest drop since Gulf War as Saudi cuts spark...
Oil markets tumbled sharply overnight on Sunday in a dramatic sell-off fueled by an OPEC+ price war amid coronavirus concerns.
https://i.insider.com/5e6576d0fee23d0d4275d092?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ta


[09-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Opponent#3498
Russia is funded primarily by oil and gas exports.


[09-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Opponent#3498
so whatever hurts them helps us :3


[09-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
at least helps politically.


[09-Mar-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1236778368533700609?s=20https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1236778368533700609?s=20

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Who knows what this means, but it sounds good to me! https://t.co/rQVA4ER0PV
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[09-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even get it.


[09-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's saying he's making music


[09-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
and the piece is called "Nothing Can Stop What's Coming", which I assume means re-election


[09-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
but could also mean him becoming dictator of the US


[09-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only 2040s kids remember the Urban Revolt of 2039


[09-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not so sure trump's done anymore, biden will likely lose the general election against trump


[09-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
even though the economy's gonna go to shit because of the coronavirus


[09-Mar-20 03:37 AM] jlun2#8758
If that happens I doubt boomers would blame biden


[09-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden is the democratic Trump at this point


[09-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Honahue#0656
biden has the same problem hillary does, he's boring and has a massive history of bad decisions


[09-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He could start fondling women on stage while talking about lights in the sky and the democrats would still vote for him


[09-Mar-20 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But he has moderate appeal!"


[09-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Honahue#0656
it is nice to see Kamala (known cop) Harris who called Biden a racist for his bus legislation then endorced him


[09-Mar-20 03:46 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/why-are-these-people-so-freaking-old/607492/>
> When Joe Biden climbed to the stage in California to celebrate his Super Tuesday comeback in the Democratic primary, three things happened in a matter of minutes. He basked in the thunderous applause from the crowd. He mistook his wife for his sister. And he delivered the sort of confusing, intermittently slurry, and occasionally indecipherable oration that has defined so many of his recent public appearances.
:ponythinking:


[09-Mar-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
is he going to have stroke soon


[09-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
nah he's just old and has dementia


[09-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> He mistook his wife for his sister.


[09-Mar-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet he's the winning ticket! he'll beat trump by... being unalterably wavering?


[09-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony: 🍆


[09-Mar-20 03:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru Wait, you don't think your mom, sister, and wife are the same person as well?

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[09-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump probably has dementai too but he's meaner than Biden so any dabates is just gonna be Trump dunking on Biden and biden wondering where he is


[09-Mar-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
> Or maybe it’s about the American electorate’s preference for “experienced novices.” Since 1996, every new president has had less national political experience than the previous commander in chief had when he was elected. Bill Clinton was a fresher face than George H. W. Bush, but had more gubernatorial experience than George W. Bush, who in turn was a governor for longer than Barack Obama was a senator. And then came Trump, who had no political experience at all. If you extrapolate this trend, it might sound like America’s next breakthrough presidential candidate will be some 35-year-old YouTube influencer who just recently learned about the filibuster.
Yes. Let's Play America


[09-Mar-20 04:01 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Mar-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
Can't wait for Biden to look completely loss, while the crowd cheers on


[09-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[09-Mar-20 04:23 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/07/2020-dementia-campaign-123106>
> My colleague Marc Caputo said on Twitter that a Democratic operative with presidential campaign experience described the likely 2020 race like this: “the nice old guy with Alzheimer’s against the mean old man with dementia.”


[09-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie is just angry, he doesn't forget anything.


[09-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden 10-20 years ago was the drunk uncle/grandpa, now he's the grandpa you have to stop from drinking more because he's already losing it even without that


[09-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Uncle Joe you had dinner and a Budweiser, time for bed


[09-Mar-20 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey speaking of time


[09-Mar-20 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Today was the first day of daylight savings, right?


[09-Mar-20 04:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well guess what, time.gov has been down all day and it's *still* not up


[09-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[09-Mar-20 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not actually sure when the downtime began


[09-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're expecting any part of the US civil service to function now?


[09-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the deep state, everyone hates them.


[09-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck bureaucrats right?


[09-Mar-20 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah, wait, there it goes, the *moment* I mention it, it comes back


[09-Mar-20 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm wondering what the heck happened


[09-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably someone realized it was down a bit late


[09-Mar-20 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it might've come back earlier and was cached wrong or something


[09-Mar-20 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've seen a lot of janky things go wrong with certs etc, but it'd be hilarious if the problem was that when the time changed the server went WHOA THE TIME IS INCORRECT, BETTER REFUSE ALL CONNECTIONS


[09-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eliminating DST by state is a thing


[09-Mar-20 04:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, arizona and hawaii IIRC


[09-Mar-20 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and maybe one of the territories? I could check time.gov...


[09-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guam? Nah


[09-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also one of the few things I have agreed with Trump on is that the US should buy Greenland


[09-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no check to big to write for it IMO


[09-Mar-20 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay yeah it's Puerto Rico, American Samoa...and something in Guam


[09-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely Denmark has a limit


[09-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Puerto Rico is weird when you play EU4 and it's...Porto Rico


[09-Mar-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
European Union 4


[09-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the world where you enjoy a nice Papsi with your Cheerioats


[09-Mar-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't like a Papsi, enjoy a nice Koke Kola


[09-Mar-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, as we all know, any world that isn't dominated by Ulm is the worst timeline so this is all irrelevant ultimately


[09-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
my mom sent me this https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, and death toll by country due to the COVID 19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, historical data, and info. Daily charts, graphs, news and updates
http://www.worldometers.info/img/worldometers-fb.jpg


[09-Mar-20 07:11 AM] Crow#5457
to prove that there wouldn't be 96 million cases of coronavirus in the US


[09-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing I pointed out whas that there was a 3.47% fatality rate according to those numbers


[09-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
(she said that she didn't think it was as dangerous as "the media" claims it is a few days ago, she says it's all a hoax to make trump look bad and crash the economy so he loses re-election)


[09-Mar-20 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so semi-honest question...if Trump really thinks COVID-19 is a hoax and/or inflated panic, why did he task Pence with running the response? What skills can the VP bring to bear to respond to what Trump thought was going on?


[09-Mar-20 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(I mean, it's pretty clear that at the time he made that decision, he still thought it was more or less just the regular flu)


[09-Mar-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants someone else to deal with it, and to gain PR off it.


[09-Mar-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he's putting someone else in charge, who is close to him.


[09-Mar-20 07:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm kinda curious what @Crow's mom would have to say in response to that question


[09-Mar-20 07:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I don't think it's one that a ton of right-wing media attention has come up with a cover for


[09-Mar-20 07:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *suspect* the response would probably be "he's done a good job so far"


[09-Mar-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd say that Pence is a "good communicator" who can "calm the unnecessary panic".


[09-Mar-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC Crow's mom thinks Coronavirus is simultaneously a Chinese bioweapon and nothing to worry about.


[09-Mar-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
'Tell them everything is well so that they'd fuck off'.


[09-Mar-20 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh hey, the virus has started reaching north carolina


[09-Mar-20 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/19-people-tested-for-coronavirus-in-nc-gov-cooper-pleads-for-supplies-promised-by-federal-government/

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[09-Mar-20 11:31 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-in-first-birthright-stops-all-trips-to-israel-over-coronavirus-outbreak-1.8638811

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[09-Mar-20 11:31 AM] ononim#8141
comrade Corona


[09-Mar-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I feel like I don't want to know more


[09-Mar-20 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_Israel

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Birthright Israel
Taglit-Birthright Israel (Hebrew: תגלית‎), also known as Birthright Israel or simply Birthright,  is a not-for-profit educational organization that sponsors free ten-day heritage trips to Israel for young adults of Jewish heritage, aged 18–32.Taglit is the Hebrew word for disc...
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[09-Mar-20 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that got weirdly confusing for a moment as there's also a pro-lifer organization also called birthright...

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[09-Mar-20 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486532-donald-trump-jr-says-his-dad-has-told-him-to-tone-down-the-tweets

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Donald Trump Jr. said in a recent interview that he has been told by his father to dial down some of his rhetoric on Twitter.
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[09-Mar-20 12:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Mar-20 12:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Euro markets having a bad morning


[09-Mar-20 01:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[09-Mar-20 01:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/08/oil-plummets-30percent-as-opec-deal-failure-sparks-price-war-fears.html

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Oil prices plunge as much as 30% after OPEC deal failure sparks pri...
Oil prices plunged after OPEC's failure to strike a deal with its allies regarding production cuts caused Saudi Arabia to slash its prices as it reportedly gets set to ramp up production, leading to fears of an all-out price war.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106432039-1583753876011gettyimages-1205429215.jpeg?v=1583753920


[09-Mar-20 01:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oil is at 31 dollars the barrel


[09-Mar-20 01:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
rip me


[09-Mar-20 01:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By comparison, at the height of the 2008 crisis, the oil barrel was at 32


[09-Mar-20 01:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is not a good sign for the oil industry, or any industry for that matter


[09-Mar-20 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/08/dow-futures-drop-700-points-as-all-out-oil-price-war-adds-to-coronavirus-stress.html

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Dow set to tank 1,300 points, Treasury yields crater as oil crashes...
Investors are bracing for the economic fallout from the spreading coronavirus, while a shocking all-out oil price war added to the anxiety.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106432030-1583753611058gettyimages-1210191910.jpeg?v=1583753640


[09-Mar-20 01:36 PM] Crow#5457
nyoooooooom


[09-Mar-20 01:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dow rn be like


[09-Mar-20 01:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ONyukSLqA

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[09-Mar-20 01:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NY markets haven't opened yet afaik


[09-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if there's a livestream


[09-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nyse.com/bell

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The NYSE Bell
One of the most familiar images of the NYSE on the evening news is the loud ringing of a bell, signaling the opening or closing of the day's trading
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[09-Mar-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like that might just be the bell


[09-Mar-20 01:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE

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To watch complete markets coverage on Bloomberg Television 24/7, visit http://www.bloomberg.com/live, ...
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[09-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
music to chill by while you watch the 📉


[09-Mar-20 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
unf

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[09-Mar-20 02:35 PM] byte[]#2610
love to see banks get hit


[09-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
5 minutes in and they halted trading for 15 minutes to take a breather


[09-Mar-20 02:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Some political philosophy things. Conservatism being a defense of monarchy via free markets (now) https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk

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[09-Mar-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
dow's down 1600


[09-Mar-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
down down down


[09-Mar-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
was down 2000 a few minutes ago


[09-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
looking tough :/


[09-Mar-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1236878688626659328?s=20

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i'm wheezing.

they can't do it.

they CAN'T DO IT.
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[09-Mar-20 04:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) well yea. Bernie alienated a bunch of boomers with cold war ptsd


[09-Mar-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
no, this isn't that.


[09-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
people can't tell what the guy they're voting for is even about.


[09-Mar-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love the part where they're sure as fuck he can beat trump, but they won;t explain how he's going to do so...


[09-Mar-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what does he offer that trump doesn't


[09-Mar-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is he and what are his values?


[09-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
being calm.


[09-Mar-20 04:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course he's calm, he probably has hypertension and is on downers


[09-Mar-20 04:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck knows how they intend him to survive a 1v1 debate, other than with tailor made softball questions and aggressive anti-bernie questions


[09-Mar-20 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
and that's not going to happen, not with Trump.


[09-Mar-20 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Hey Joe, why are you so great?" "Moving on, Sen. Sander's, please explain the details of your proposed peace plan for the middle east without using the words "ceasefire", "muslim", "dialog", or "the"


[09-Mar-20 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if he even gets past the primaries by sheer force of will, what happens when he debates trump?


[09-Mar-20 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he brings nothing to the table except "beat trump" as his platform


[09-Mar-20 04:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He'll say what literally every candidate has said


[09-Mar-20 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reunite america, cease the divide, stop with the useless politics, no more DC political nonsense, work for the people, etc


[09-Mar-20 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
meaningless platitudes people eat up without thinking


[09-Mar-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the feel good speech


[09-Mar-20 04:52 PM] jlun2#8758
> Reunite america
and how?


[09-Mar-20 04:53 PM] jlun2#8758
I mean, there's things I know both parties want like better infrastructure, but that keeps getting ignored


[09-Mar-20 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Turns out "Beat Trump" is all voters wanted based on Super Tuesday


[09-Mar-20 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
they fear him, to the exclusion of everything else.


[09-Mar-20 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
unfortunate, but with his presence, understandable.


[09-Mar-20 05:01 PM] byte[]#2610
what voters want on super tuesday is 'the kind of racism I like'


[09-Mar-20 05:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit?


[09-Mar-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Correction: boomers, not all voters


[09-Mar-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Boomers are way too significant in US elections


[09-Mar-20 05:06 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
In any elections, for the time being at least


[09-Mar-20 05:06 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Remember it was the boomers who stripped UK out of the EU


[09-Mar-20 05:09 PM] jlun2#8758
> the kind of racism I like
don't forget if those young people do the same, destroy their social media life


[09-Mar-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, this isn't about racism I don't think. Not deliberately.


[09-Mar-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
people became convinced that the only way to remove Trump is to have a do-nothing, calm smiling grandpa. Basicly, the anti-Trump in their eyes.


[09-Mar-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe they don't _conciously_ know that but they _feel_ that, hence you get reponses like the ones above in that post.


[09-Mar-20 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
'we want a guy who's everything Trump's not', and that includes his energy, having an opinion (any opinion on anything really) etc.


[09-Mar-20 05:16 PM] Opponent#3498
having energy is bad, Trump had energy.


[09-Mar-20 05:16 PM] Opponent#3498
breating air is bad, Hitler breathed air. This sort of logic.


[09-Mar-20 05:16 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd take racism over this tbh.


[09-Mar-20 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/09/sp-500-futures-are-frozen-after-tanking-5percent-heres-what-happens-when-circuit-breakers-kick-in.html

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The market triggered a 'circuit breaker' that kept stocks from fall...
With stocks looking set to open sharply lower, investors will be watching for more market circuit breakers that can halt trading.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106432679-1583768133077preview-3.jpg?v=1583768155


[09-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
> The S&P 500 fell more than 7% Monday, triggering circuit breakers that temporarily helped halt a further plunge.
> 
> The index hit the mandatory trading halt shortly after the open, stopping trading below that level for 15 minutes. The market resumed trading at 9:49 am ET and continued a decline that saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly shed more than 2,000 points.


[09-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
nyooooooom


[09-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
that's all fascinating and all, but much like 'number big', pretty irrelevant


[09-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
> However, about 10 minutes after trading resumed, the major indexes shaved their losses though they remained down steeply for the session and were approaching bear market conditions.
> 
> “The market circuit breakers are designed to slow trading down for a few minutes, give investors the ability to understand what’s happening in the market, consume the information and make decisions based on market conditions,” New York Stock Exchange President Stacey Cunningham told CNBC’s Bob Pisani. “This is operating as it’s supposed to.”


[09-Mar-20 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
BUT MUH FREE MARKET ECONOMICS


[09-Mar-20 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
obviously a socialist policy, why was that ever put in place?


[09-Mar-20 05:18 PM] Crow#5457
\/s


[09-Mar-20 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/tsmcdiez/status/1232301225963593728

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I'm so relieved that when Castro's soldiers ripped my 3yo aunt's earrings out of her ears so 2 flaps remained & when my gma risked her life to hide US quarters btwn her knees while men with machine guns searched their home it was all to fund a literacy program.
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[09-Mar-20 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She was an Andrew Yang supporter lel


[09-Mar-20 05:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Socialism for Wall street only


[09-Mar-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean that's fair enough. USSR at it's founding was like, the alcoholic hobo living under your doorstep suddenly becomes a party member, which comes with a free pistol, shoots you for ~~shits and giggles~~ being the Enemy of the People and moves in (only later to be executed himself so that a party official can house his mistress).


[09-Mar-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't mean whole heck of a lot outside of 'revolution = fun times for everyone involved'.


[09-Mar-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know, I just wonder the details of any of these stories.


[09-Mar-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Castro stole my family's slaves" is a meme for a reason.


[09-Mar-20 05:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I still can't believe she went out and said that


[09-Mar-20 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ChosenBandit37/status/1232472079577964544


[09-Mar-20 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the actual fuck


[09-Mar-20 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These people have brain worms


[09-Mar-20 05:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, was thinking of "My grandfather held a monopoly on eggs in China and the CCP took it and his megamansions away"


[09-Mar-20 05:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least the "My grandpa owned all the eggs in China before Mao came" was kinda apologetic


[09-Mar-20 05:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[09-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly if you're just about development


[09-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What's it matter if people die this way or that way


[09-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Defeatist and cynical but hey


[09-Mar-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
that was the logic by which USSR was founded.


[09-Mar-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
but no, this isn't that.


[09-Mar-20 05:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah the point is that these people who flee authoritarian regimes have some members of the emigre class who are... hard to like.


[09-Mar-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the guy tries to mock the post from a berniebro.


[09-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
like, this is him trying to be sarcastic


[09-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[09-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And honestly


[09-Mar-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, this one person's bad family experience is in fact worth the advances Cuba had


[09-Mar-20 05:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would this person say that someone who grew up in poverty in the US and could barely eat made everything the US got not worth it as well?


[09-Mar-20 05:38 PM] Opponent#3498
he'd probably said they shouldve tried harder and simply not be lazy and poor, if I had to guess.


[09-Mar-20 05:38 PM] Opponent#3498
if someone fails at sarcasm that badly, I would not expect miracles.


[09-Mar-20 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what really makes you think


[09-Mar-20 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People in Cuba starve and the shelves are empty


[09-Mar-20 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US, people starve and the shelves are full


[09-Mar-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah logistics bungles can be overcome.


[09-Mar-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
greed of the top... much harder to do so.


[09-Mar-20 05:41 PM] Opponent#3498
plus, yeah, getting fucked this badly throughout your entire history by a neighbouring superpower, can't imagine that could go too well.


[09-Mar-20 05:44 PM] Opponent#3498
and even by their allies at times. If USSR's behaviour during Cuban Crisis was of any indication, they didn't treat the nation too well either.


[09-Mar-20 06:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Any revolution and indeed every regime is going to have violence. There is no big surprise there. It's expressed implicitly or explicitly. It can - and has even been said by the likes of Zizek - that the apparent passivity of liberal capitalist democracy is at the expense of considerable implicit violence against the populace: if you don't work, you don't get services. Or if you do work, and your field falls out, the state or private organizations have the right to try and retrain you somewhere outside of your field or life style (as is the Scandinavian model). This sort of violence is the underpinning of the capitalist system as the conmoditfication of the worker; you do not exist for yourself but for the benefit of the firm and state.


[09-Mar-20 06:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But the Soviets took my grandma's pony.


[09-Mar-20 06:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Therefore people shouldn't have health insurance.


[09-Mar-20 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
Hitler killed the Jews. Hitler didn't eat meat. That's a huge waste of jewish meat. Therefore, vegetarianism will lead to killing brown children, but not using them to replace cows, and is thus bad for the environment.

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[09-Mar-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the thing to realize about people who bring out these horror stories to say we shouldn't emulate Cuba. They don't actually care about the people who were hurt.


[09-Mar-20 06:21 PM] jlun2#8758
probably makes more sense to argue this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany

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[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they care about is that the wrong people were hurt.


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] jlun2#8758
rather than veganism


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, as long as brown people are the ones rounded up by armed forces to be hauled off, society's groovy.


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] jlun2#8758
> the wrong people were hurt
can boomers pls die faster


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't consider that maybe just maybe


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they don't want free healthcare is that it would put people on an equal footing.


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Bacardi family deserved it


[09-Mar-20 06:22 PM] jlun2#8758
like seriously 7m boomer gone would be amazing


[09-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And thus chances would be higher that *white people* would be hauled off by armed forces.


[09-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You will not see these people raise a single fukking peep about ICE going around grabbing up mexicans to send bakk to cartel territory to be shot


[09-Mar-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they are themselves Mexican.


[09-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[09-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, they made it, and nobody else should now that they're honorary white.


[09-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why a lot of emigres from authoritarian regimes are shitty people


[09-Mar-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And that


[09-Mar-20 06:24 PM] jlun2#8758
> honorary white
boomer pls


[09-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
As long as the horrible authoritarian regime keeps them in the higher parts of the social ladder, they'll make sure that it doesn't change anything.


[09-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do you think they're mad?


[09-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're mad because they gained their current status via hating Cuba


[09-Mar-20 06:25 PM] jlun2#8758
> higher parts of the social ladder
I have a really cool phone. That apparently counts as "higher social ladder" according to my parents


[09-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There are people in the US now who bemoan that the shah got overthrown because now they can't run their awful exploitative business


[09-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
So adopting any of its policies isn't just threatening to their position because it might put others up their with them


[09-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
it also might put them down by making people hate Cuba less.


[09-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My point ultimately is maybe some of these emigres were the bad ones, not the revolutionaries


[09-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no distinction between the two, in the end.


[09-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
See Myanmar.


[09-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to realize that in an authoritarian regime, people who actually rise up wanting to take it down are not *ever* the ones who want a real democracy


[09-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just want to be the ones on top.


[09-Mar-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[09-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ones who want a real democracy don't want power.


[09-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so they will neither leave to start a great family in the west, nor will they take control.


[09-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will instead be executed the moment the new regime takes power.


[09-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coups in authoritarian regimes are just a new guy wanting the treasure hoard.


[09-Mar-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gizmodo.com/congressman-who-mocked-emergency-coronavirus-bill-goes-1842204871

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[09-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wah-waah


[09-Mar-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486614-doj-warns-companies-against-price-fixing-during-coronavirus

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DOJ warns companies against price fixing during coronavirus
The Department of Justice (DOJ) warned on Monday it will hold businesses accountable if they violate antitrust laws during the coronavirus outbreak.
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[09-Mar-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure you will...


[09-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486645-cdc-americans-over-60-should-stock-up-on-supplies-avoid-crowds

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CDC: Americans over 60 should 'stock up' on supplies, avoid crowds
Older Americans, especially those with underlying health conditions, should stockpile supplies and avoid unnecessary travel, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Monday.
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[09-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486644-white-house-invites-wall-street-executives-for-meeting-amid-coronavirus

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White House invites Wall Street executives for meeting amid coronav...
The White House has invited Wall Street executives this week for a meeting to discuss the coronavirus’ economic impact, a person familiar with the plans told The Hill.
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[09-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most execs are over 60 I assume


[09-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://wpta21.com/2020/03/09/first-covid-19-case-confirmed-in-northeast-indiana/

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Patient isolated after positive test for COVID-19 in Noble Co.; cli...
The first case of the COVID-19 variation of coronavirus in northeast Indiana involves a patient at Parkview Noble Hospital.
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[09-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I need to get the fuck out of here


[09-Mar-20 07:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
No where to run bucko.


[09-Mar-20 07:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Might as well catch it and suffer through


[09-Mar-20 07:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
And not worry again


[09-Mar-20 07:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're all on this yeet train together


[09-Mar-20 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486665-poll-biden-leads-sanders-by-19-nationally

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Poll: Biden leads Sanders by 19 nationally
Former Vice President Joe Biden is the favorite among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents to win the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a new Quinnipiac U
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[09-Mar-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
:(


[09-Mar-20 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If only you could vote in Fortnite


[09-Mar-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Ocasio-Cortez 2024


[09-Mar-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That would probably be the start of the "who is the real forgotten American" line


[09-Mar-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486664-biden-klobuchar-harris-booker-all-capable-of-being-president

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Biden: Klobuchar, Harris, Booker 'all capable of being president'
Former Vice President Joe Biden said his former rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sens.
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[09-Mar-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like he's planning to die or something


[09-Mar-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We all know the real plan here anyway


[09-Mar-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Get elected, then resign


[09-Mar-20 08:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>VP becomes president, pick Hllary as VP


[09-Mar-20 08:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Now president resigns, finally Her Turn™


[09-Mar-20 08:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/SweeneyABC/status/1237018677360410624?s=19

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BREAKING: A D.C. priest has Coronavirus. He offered communion and shook hands with more than 500 worshippers last week and on February 24th.  All worshippers who visited the Christ Church in Georgetown must self-quarantine. Church is cancelled for the first time since the 180...
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[09-Mar-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] let down by the lack of youth vote rip


[09-Mar-20 09:03 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder if democracy would just fade away given the apathy of youth once boomers die off


[09-Mar-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that there is structural voter suppression


[09-Mar-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
which keeps young people from voting


[09-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
registrating to vote is a pita, and hugely variable from place to place


[09-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then they fuck you over whenever you move residence


[09-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which young people do a lot


[09-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Changed dorm room during uni? Guess what, deregistered


[09-Mar-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
not to mention they have jobs and classes


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
tried to take off work to go vote? sorry, nobody can cover your shift, go in or get fired


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
skipped class? there was an exam that day


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In spain they made it so all elections have to be on a Sunday


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
retired boomers have neither classes nor jobs


[09-Mar-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
so are overrepresented in voting


[09-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Registering is basically just sending an email or web form with "yes actually I do want to vote, here's my photo ID"


[09-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was a pain for Texas, have to email forms to a specific person for my county so they can send me some paper forms so I can send them back by snail mail


[09-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon actually also a thing here. Elections only on Sunday.


[09-Mar-20 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People waited in line seven hours to vote last Tuesday


[09-Mar-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
because of more structural oppression


[09-Mar-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP has been closing and consolidating polling places in predominantly black areas


[09-Mar-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
thanks scalia, you really are very intelligent


[09-Mar-20 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder

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Shelby County v. Holder
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[09-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Heard from people who spoke with him personally


[09-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He really did just hate the youth a lot


[09-Mar-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
better than a catholic priest I suppose


[09-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not generally well remembered, if you want to be an activist justice be proud of it


[09-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was fake about it


[09-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486673-gaetz-becomes-fourth-gop-congressman-to-self-quarantine-after-possible

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Gaetz becomes fourth GOP congressman to self-quarantine after possi...
Rep.
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[09-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ayy lmao


[09-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More like karmavirus


[09-Mar-20 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Collins as well


[09-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486676-wall-street-suffers-major-losses-as-markets-spiral-on-coronavirus-oil-prices#

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Wall Street suffers major losses as markets spiral on coronavirus, ...
U.S.
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[09-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Worst day since October 2008


[09-Mar-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-arizona-debate-123467

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Sanders, Biden camps clash over Arizona debate format
A proposal to have the candidates seated for the first time sparks tension.
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[09-Mar-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Slimy fucking scumbags at CNN


[09-Mar-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They'd rather have another four years of Trump


[09-Mar-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't care


[09-Mar-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That leads to better ratings


[09-Mar-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think you mean another 20 years fo trump


[09-Mar-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 will be the year pundits run for president I bet


[09-Mar-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gaetz  was on AF1 with Trump yesterday

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[09-Mar-20 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what trump will do if he gets the virus? probably just keep doing everything he normally does and even soem golfing with rich buddies, and going to public hand shakes


[09-Mar-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably try to meet with several foreign leaders


[09-Mar-20 09:36 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/iatemuggles/status/1236883326797066240

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the coronavirus outbreak in Italy
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[09-Mar-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(2020)

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Black Monday (2020)
Black Monday is the name for the global stock market crash of 9 March 2020. Markets opened several percent lower, having fallen greatly during the preceding two weeks. The causes were a combination of the coronavirus outbreak and the plummeting price of oil. The FTSE 100 Index...


[09-Mar-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Pedia works fast


[09-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/485964-italy-to-close-schools-for-10-days-due-to-coronavirus

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Italy to close schools for 10 days due to coronavirus
Schools in Italy will close through March 15 to address the country’s coronavirus outbreak, the worst in Europe, Education Minister Lucia Azzolina announced Wednesday.
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[09-Mar-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7454e80dbc04e723bb6586b7dbb0aec2

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AP Explains: The oil market meltdown and its global impact
FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — A clash of two oil titans - Saudi Arabia and Russia - is sending shock waves through energy markets, with wide-ranging implications for consumers and oil companies,...
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[09-Mar-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2e8a815a031e8da37075feec466694c2

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US begins troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, official says
WASHINGTON (AP) — American troops have begun leaving Afghanistan for the initial troop withdrawal required in the U.S.-Taliban peace agreement, the U.S. military confirmed Monday, amid political...
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[09-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if the shale oil bubble will pop


[09-Mar-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://bdnews24.com/world/south-east-asia/2020/03/01/suspected-coronavirus-patient-shot-dead-in-north-korea

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Suspected coronavirus patient ‘shot dead’ in North Korea
A North Korean official, who recently returned from China, has reportedly been executed on suspicion of carrying the deadly coronavirus infection, according to the US-based news portal Tech Times.
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[09-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/05/coronavirus-live-updates/


[09-Mar-20 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
In a decade maybe
<https://www.nationalreview.com/news/feds-discover-largest-oil-natural-gas-reserve-in-history/>
> “Christmas came a few weeks early this year,” Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke said of the new reserve, which is believed to have enough energy to fuel the U.S. for nearly seven years.
So, a problem for gen Alphers and Zoomers


[09-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think there's a risk now where a lot of shale oil is being funded by junk


[09-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If oil drops price massively and the market goes down on its own...


[09-Mar-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/almost-200-north-korean-soldiers-died-coronavirus-2020-3

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Almost 200 North Korean soldiers have reportedly died from coronavi...
Military leaders are scrambling to deal with the epidemic by disinfecting areas and increasing the amount of food given to each soldier.
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[09-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1251719/coronavirus-china-bioweapon-experiment-lab-leak-wuhan-seafood-market-spt

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Coronavirus: Experiment gone wrong? Two Wuhan lab leaks exposed by ...
CORONAVIRUS may have originated from two labs conducting research on bats just metres away from the epicentre, one of which has experienced two previous cases of SARS outbreaks, a study has found.


[09-Mar-20 10:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"We can't say that it *actually* originated from China or else Tencent will pull their funding 🙊"


[09-Mar-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/theory-that-coronavirus-escaped-from-a-lab-lacks-evidence-67229

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Theory that Coronavirus Escaped from a Lab Lacks Evidence
The pathogen appears to have come from wild animals, virologists say, and there are no signs of genetic manipulation in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.
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[09-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The lab is *thousands* of meters away.


[09-Mar-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Mar-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1237114103568752641

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A confused Joe Biden says that Kim Jong-un is from South Korea and falsely claims that he has spent a lot of time with him.

"Folks like Putin and Kim Jong-un in, in South Korea."

"Kim Jong-un has know a person[?] that I know him or not.. I spent a lot of time with these fol...
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[09-Mar-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Mar-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486683-congress-debating-ways-to-help-boost-economy-hit-by-coronavirus

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Congress debating ways to help boost economy hit by coronavirus
Congress is considering a range of legislative responses to the coronavirus outbreak, from a paid national sick leave policy to tax relief for the hardest hit industries.
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[09-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
A good start would be to fix healthcare first :ponythinking:


[09-Mar-20 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1235355014756888578?s=20

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Former VP Joe Biden tells a crowd he wants to "increase premiums" and make sure healthcare is "not quality, but only affordable." https://t.co/49J2DUlQBe
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[09-Mar-20 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
dementia


[09-Mar-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Mar-20 11:32 PM] jlun2#8758
> Former VP Joe Biden tells a crowd he wants to "increase premiums" and make sure healthcare is "not quality, but only affordable."
Are the voters demented too


[09-Mar-20 11:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) legit where do they live in winter


[09-Mar-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently living in a motel also counts as homeless, so possibly in motels?


[09-Mar-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or just frozen on the streets!


[09-Mar-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
homelessness in america really is that bad


[09-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
how many americans live in the car


[09-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
their car that is


[09-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i wonder if there is rent for automobiles


[09-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or something financially equivalent


[09-Mar-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apartments.com: We rent cars to live in now!


[10-Mar-20 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I was on craigslist earlier just out of curiosity to see what renting is like in my area


[10-Mar-20 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
anything on the low side of $700/mo (of which there were sporadic, individual examples) came with a requirement of proof of an income at least 3x the asking price


[10-Mar-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At federal minimum wage (which is also the state min wage here), you would need *two* full-time employments to have enough income to meet that requirement, at least


[10-Mar-20 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, well...when you think about the people looking to split a 3-digit rent, I don't think DINKs are a likely target demographic for these listings


[10-Mar-20 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is what you get when the housing market is terrible and the minimum wage hasn't kept up with the times


[10-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Increasing minimum wage makes workers lazy and complacent instead of working hard to become self-made millionaires, sweaty :)

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[10-Mar-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/900981/trump-reportedly-told-aides-fears-journalists-purposefully-try-infect-coronavirus-air-force

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Trump reportedly told aides he fears journalists will purposefully ...
President Trump puts on a brave face when talking about the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, but things are reportedly pretty different behind closed doors.
Vanity Fair reports that Trump — a self-professed germaphobe — is 'melting down over this.' Perhaps not shockingly, he's foc...
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[10-Mar-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
_checks to see if wilson wrote a new roast_


[10-Mar-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
nope


[10-Mar-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Lol https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/09/prince-andrew-will-not-voluntarily-cooperate-epstein-investigation-lawyer-says

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Prince Andrew won't voluntarily cooperate in Epstein inquiry, prose...
Despite public offer to help with investigation Andrew has ‘completely shut the door’, and New York attorney general is now considering other options
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[10-Mar-20 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so that's a "yes" to the allegations, then


[10-Mar-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a "no" to the hand job as well


[10-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESpO7vjU8AEMp5s.jpg:orig

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[10-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Sev3617#4685
Wat


[10-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a joke about how the democratic party are coward bitches and the party doesn't deserve to survive


[10-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden on the ballot guarantees 4 more years of Trump


[10-Mar-20 01:41 AM] jlun2#8758
bernie's fucked tomorrow again isn't he


[10-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden is literally senile, his mind is gone, he'll get demolished months before the election


[10-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[10-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democrats are fucking retarded


[10-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The party deserves to lose


[10-Mar-20 01:42 AM] jlun2#8758
is Mike VP for 2020 too?


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know that it guarantees 4 more years


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unknown


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude he's gonna melt


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen old folk get dementia


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
like I've said before I think trump is likely to lose no matter what in the current economic climate


[10-Mar-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just too bad it couldn't be his fault for losing


[10-Mar-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Only way Trump loses is if the economy craters to the point of LA riots


[10-Mar-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
> democratic party are cowards
Aren't they the ones that keep trying to compromise with GOP thinking the latter will play with the rules


[10-Mar-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
then get surprised 100% of the time when they dont


[10-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao you realize the only reason he won in 2016 was because Bernie voters were pissed but also assumed Hillary would win anyway and thus voted for Trump to protest


[10-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also third parties


[10-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I do


[10-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And those Bernie voters aren't gonna vote Biden


[10-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They might not vote Trump this time, but they're gonna stay home


[10-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah part of the appeal then was "Well Hillary will win anyway but I'm mad so fuck her"


[10-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That will not happen


[10-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile Trump will pull a "war on the economy" and boomers and gen x will rally behind the leader to save their pensions and 401ks


[10-Mar-20 01:49 AM] jlun2#8758
> pensions and 401ks
still waiting for the recession since 2016


[10-Mar-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
what do they invest in nowadays? is it still houses?


[10-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mark meadows in quarentine


[10-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No idea... probably shale oil =p


[10-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being a broker must be great


[10-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You get to play with other people's money and earn a commission and every gain


[10-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But take no losses yourself


[10-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Play the game well for 5 years and you've probably skimmed enough to comfortably retire


[10-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Last day you just dump everything in high-risk high gain and lol the way home no matter what happens


[10-Mar-20 01:57 AM] jlun2#8758
why and how is that not automated


[10-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, tonnes of it super is


[10-Mar-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it is automated


[10-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The majority of trading is done by bots


[10-Mar-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it's statistically shown that brokers cannot even beat random investment decisions


[10-Mar-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
but people still like to pay brokers


[10-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But there's still people doing high level decisions of "I'm putting your company's retirement funds in India construction companies"


[10-Mar-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
in computer science there are a lot of really cool algorithms for managing space/resource efficiency


[10-Mar-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately, "random" as an algorithm is better than many of them


[10-Mar-20 02:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] 
> it's statistically shown that brokers cannot even beat random investment decisions
> but people still like to pay brokers
So rich people are retarded, thanks.


[10-Mar-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a huge market for bots on VPSs in NYC or on a pipe with low latency to NYC


[10-Mar-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
high frequency trading is stupid, you don't need to beat the market to make out good on your investment


[10-Mar-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
but people spend billions on the stuff


[10-Mar-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
on bloomberg terminals, etc.


[10-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You just need low ping


[10-Mar-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a bunch of parasitic rich assholes playing craps with the economy


[10-Mar-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
is what it really is


[10-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's great


[10-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because when you put money in a bank


[10-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they charge you fees


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're literally giving them money to play poker with your cash


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they charge you for the privilege


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] so set every stock a number, randomly generate like 10 numbers, and buy those? :ponythinking:


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"boss makes a dollar I make a dime", that's banks


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[10-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 put it in a diversified investment fund


[10-Mar-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they do the automatic random trading for you


[10-Mar-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
most banks don't charge fees for keeping money in them, but they do disproportionately charge fees for things poor people are likely to do


[10-Mar-20 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
like overdraft an account, keep less than the minimum balance (what bullshit that is), open a bank-sponsored credit card, etc


[10-Mar-20 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
so the money ends up effectively being stolen from the poor to give to the rich


[10-Mar-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s liek robin hood, but in a horrible nightmare reversal


[10-Mar-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
and that's almost entirely targeting poor people


[10-Mar-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the middle class is targeted through taxation


[10-Mar-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
they pay the majority of tax burden in the US despite rich people being substantially more able to pay


[10-Mar-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
this is what republicans consistently vote for


[10-Mar-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
tax cuts on corporations, spending increases on corporate welfare, make up the difference by taxing poorer individuals


[10-Mar-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When I got under the red I got a fee from the bank, a surcharge from the seller, and a temporary lock on the account


[10-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was great


[10-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it was because the bank was slow to authorize a SEPA transfer


[10-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is supposed to be immediate


[10-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess not if you're a human being instead of a corp


[10-Mar-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I keep a paranoid-level checking balance and have monitoring set up on everything


[10-Mar-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For a second there I thought that Marx was a spacesniffer screencap...


[10-Mar-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
ty for pic. time to play darts on it


[10-Mar-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
or the less fun way: assign a number to each and randomly generate one


[10-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/09/boosting-electability-argument-sanders-has-won-independent-voters-13-out-16-exit

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"The criteria by which we should judge any Democratic presidential candidate's electability is their popularity among Democratic-leaning independents and 'true independents' in swing states. And by that metric, Sanders excels."
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[10-Mar-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow too bad they wont vote, but ty


[10-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
> Despite predictions made by pundits and journalists in the corporate media regarding electability in the 2020 general election, exit polls in the states where Americans have voted so far show that Sen. Bernie Sanders is the most popular Democratic candidate among voters who are likely to be considered "swing voters" in November.


[10-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
exit polls are for people who voted


[10-Mar-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
oh. huh


[10-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
basically, independents massively favor bernie over biden


[10-Mar-20 02:15 AM] jlun2#8758
I can't imagine a way for a Bernie nom atm outside Coronavirus death, but :shrugpony:


[10-Mar-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
inb4 gabbard


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
if biden dies for any reason you bet your ass the DNC will rig it for literally anyone except sanders


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't like the idea of being saved, they would prefer to silently implode


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
Apparently Republicans are scared of Biden. Any change of them derailing this?


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans are not scared of biden


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
my mom thinks that this crash is a "fake crash" that's been manufactured by the media through fearmongering


[10-Mar-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
biden is an easy target


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
oh


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
good news, every crash is a fake crash


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Crow you need to get your mom away from the TV and internet


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they feign being scared so idiots will vote for biden, thus mkaking it easier for them


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
she said it was all the "doom and gloom" that "the media" was putting out that caused this crash


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow I'm really curious how did she grow up


[10-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
I told her that the media did the same thing in 2008, and she seemed to lean towards calling that one fake too


[10-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
at first, she said that the 2008 crash was a "real crash" until I told her that the media was all "doom and gloom" then too


[10-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
I remember that and I barely paid attention to stuff at the time


[10-Mar-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
she seems to desperately want something to say that trump isn't bad, even though she claims that trump isn't "the best" president, she seems to take any slight criticism of him personally


[10-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing she had before was "big number mean life good", but now that it's disappearing, she seems lost


[10-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
and very angry


[10-Mar-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
number big life good

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[10-Mar-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume by now people like that will live to 90s because life is weird


[10-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kissinger is still alive


[10-Mar-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm gonna (try to) throw a small party once he kicks the bucket


[10-Mar-20 02:24 AM] jlun2#8758
biologically immortal


[10-Mar-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when he gets old enough, he will revert to a baby


[10-Mar-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thus having gained functional jellyfish immortality


[10-Mar-20 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
From the creators of Baby Yoda and Baby Peanut, here comes Baby Kissinger!


[10-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
my mom has gotten chinese food twice since I got home


[10-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
she said she is "doing her part" to help with racism against chinese restaurants

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[10-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and I'm just thinking, ok...


[10-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss chinese food


[10-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it always leave me hungry like 20 minute after finishing


[10-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could go for a bag of fried noodles


[10-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a little salt and i could eat those all day


[10-Mar-20 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y'all should try Turco-Lebanese food


[10-Mar-20 02:35 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I never even knew there was a chinese food stigma


[10-Mar-20 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sfihas, kibes, and shawarma are the shit


[10-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it comes with virus pandemics


[10-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a virus starts in a specific region, and suddenly america just associates it with whatever race lives there


[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Sev3617#4685
Oh my god Chinese food is the fucking best


[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
if you live in the US you're statistically almost certain to get the virus from a white person


[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
not from an asian


[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^


[10-Mar-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
but that doesn't stop racism


[10-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bami goreng is better


[10-Mar-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
my preference is greek


[10-Mar-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the corona virus started in china therefore all chinese people must have it


[10-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
fried noodles, mushroom, carrot, chicken, bit of peanut oil


[10-Mar-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as must their establishments


[10-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't help when some politicians call it "the wuhan flu"


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could go for some chicken lo-mein now


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
lo mein


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also soy sprouts, though apparently they're not all that healthy


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still, give a nice crunch


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not complaining about the chinese food btw


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
It's good stuff


[10-Mar-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just, my mom is a bit cuckoo sometimes


[10-Mar-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
she also wanted to get a case of corona (beer)


[10-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
**UNDERAGE DRINKING **


[10-Mar-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
can't explain that one because she doesn't even like beer


[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't like beer either


[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tastes like pee

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[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Always does


[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think anyone actually likes beer


[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
@WiFiWitch


[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They just believe other people do so they go along with it

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[10-Mar-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We drink itr for the feeling not the taste":


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that never made sense to me


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
if I want to get smashed I'll grab a bottle of hand sanitizer


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most beer doesn't have enough alcohol to get you buzzed


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why not have both taste and feeling


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
why the fuck would I drink mild urine


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Beer sucks


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Cloudy#3004
^


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anti-beer gang


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Cloudy#3004
its probably kinda like coffee


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Cloudy#3004
it tastes awful


[10-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Cloudy#3004
but


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve enver drank beer, i couldnt get past the awful smell


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
we convince ourselves to like it


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
oh no the irishman is here

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[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Strong and tasty is better than weak and suddy.


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
I'll just stick to my tequila


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to try mead


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
mead is okay


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll stick to my everclear thx


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
you taste the honey 4 sure


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll stick to my cum thanks


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
but if you dislike the taste of alcohol


[10-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Cloudy#3004
you'll still dislike mead


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peppermint schnapps mixes well with rootbeer


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I want to minimize the amount of time I'm tasting it


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
and still get absolutely shit hammered


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
vodka and cheap drink syrup


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
yeh


[10-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just a few drops completely kills the alcohol taste


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Cloudy#3004
buttchug


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Cloudy#3004
buttchinging works cause the alchohol gets absorbed directly into the bloodstream, rather than being passed through the liver


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
dangerous


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Cloudy#3004
very


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Cloudy#3004
but


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
iirc


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Cloudy#3004
no alcohol taste!


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you put a piece of garlic in your anus


[10-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I butt pill popped before


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Cloudy#3004
ono


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You begin to taste garlic in your mouth a few hours later


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
stuff works super fast when it's absorbed rectally


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_squints_


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Cloudy#3004
hello officer


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
to bring this back to politics, https://www.inquirer.com/business/comcast/comcast-unlisted-phone-number-xfinity-ecolisting-20200309.html

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Comcast has done it again: Unlisted phone numbers of 200,000 custom...
In 2015, Comcast agreed pay California $33 million to settle claims of accidentally publishing the names, phone numbers, and addresses of about 75,000 people who paid to keep the information private.
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[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Cloudy#3004
nothing to see here


[10-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
```I don't think anyone actually likes beer```


[10-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I've had some genuinly great beer, and while there's absolutely piss-tier, there's also the better stuff


[10-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Cloudy#3004
comcast is always shitty


[10-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Cloudy#3004
https://twitter.com/iatemuggles/status/1236883326797066240?s=19

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valeska (@iatemuggles)
https://twitter.com/iatemuggles/status/1236883326797066240?s=19
the coronavirus outbreak in Italy
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[10-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel the guy on the bottom right would be genuinly fun to be around.

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[10-Mar-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://time.com/5799765/intelligence-report-pandemic-dangers/

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The Trump Administration Is Stalling an Intel Report That Warns the...
The intelligence report has been postponed without explanation
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[10-Mar-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-congress-economic-relief-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3

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Trump will speak with Congress about payroll tax cut amid coronavir...
Trump said he would support small businesses along with supporting the airline, cruise, and hotel industries, who have bore the brunt of the outbreak.
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[10-Mar-20 02:58 AM] jlun2#8758
disease makes number small which means life bad

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[10-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The effect of the oil stuff overshadows the virus


[10-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like when someone's down and getting kicked


[10-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then someone pulls a fucking gun


[10-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's been a lot of money put into US oil industry and if saudis carry on their play it's all gonna evaporate


[10-Mar-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
can't wait to see the fracking industry collapse


[10-Mar-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck these guys


[10-Mar-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
they come into rural/underdeveloped towns, build shitty warehouses full of pumps, BOPs, casing, and proppant, and then fuck the regional water table for a millenium


[10-Mar-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/r7pepse5eud41

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A farmer in Nebraska asking a pro-fracking committee member to hono...
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/iSlingShlong • 134,505 points and 4,173 comments
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[10-Mar-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope this entire fucking cancerous industry burns in ruins


[10-Mar-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/insaneparents/comments/fe1u1f/im_24_all_i_said_was_im_voting_for_bernie/

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r/insaneparents - I'm 24. All I said was I'm voting for Bernie.
225 votes and 116 comments so far on Reddit
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[10-Mar-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Kas0tIxDvrg

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3Blue1Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg
Exponential growth and epidemics
A good time for a primer on exponential and logistic growth, no?
Home page: https://www.3blue1brown.com
Brought to you by you: http://3b1b.co/covid-thanks

Data source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/#total-cases

Some have (quite rightfully) comm...
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[10-Mar-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-applies-manipulated-media-donald-trump-retweet-2020-3

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Twitter slapped its first 'manipulated media' label on an edited vi...
The video appeared to show former Vice President Joe Biden accidentally endorsing President Donald Trump, but it was deceptively cut.
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[10-Mar-20 06:51 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.wthr.com/article/she-thinks-she-might-have-coronavirus-state-wont-respond-her-e-mail

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She thinks she might have coronavirus. The state won’t respond to h...
An Indianapolis woman who suspects she and her elderly mother have been infected with coronavirus is still waiting to be contacted by state health officials – more than 72 hours after she contacted the state's coronavirus call center.
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[10-Mar-20 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-right-candidate-for-2020

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Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Think Joe Biden Is the Right Candidate
Warren said last week that a man like Biden "will not meet this moment."
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[10-Mar-20 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
why is warren being so idiotic about not endorsing sanders


[10-Mar-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hedging her bets I guess.


[10-Mar-20 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/613223207163396096/686860229216174130/rif-1583830634347.jpg

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[10-Mar-20 10:21 AM] jlun2#8758
If Biden wins, I hope people don't just sit out thinking "Eh, number small, Trump will lose." I'll be annoyed as hell if people did that and Trump ended up winning.


[10-Mar-20 10:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is there any chance that Bernie gonna win elections?


[10-Mar-20 11:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s very small now


[10-Mar-20 11:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sanders was doing great when the moderates were infighting but then they decided to back off and just give their all to joe and suddenly he's not getting vote split anymore


[10-Mar-20 11:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention people not voting on super tuesday due to disinterest, job inconvenience, school, or just general vote fuckery


[10-Mar-20 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486599-progressive-organizations-throw-support-to-sanders-ahead-of-michigan?amp

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Progressive organizations throw support to Sanders ahead of Michiga...
A slew of progressive groups announced their endorsement of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) Monday ahead of several key primaries Tuesday.
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[10-Mar-20 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NYinLA2121/status/1237139830452006912?s=20

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YS (@NYinLA2121)
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Paul Gosar shook hands w/ Trump.
Matt Gaetz shook hands w/ Trump.
Doug Collins shook hands w/ Trump.
Ted Cruz shook hands w/ Trump.
Louie Gohmert shook hands w/ Trump.
Matt Schlapp shook hands w/ Trump.

Spitballin' but maybe the petri dish of Trump's baby hands is Patient Ze...
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[10-Mar-20 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/63-47c438fc-0b21-4565-8837-9577fb86a95e

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'They're being vilified' |  Lawyer representing parents of woman wh...
"This was not handled well by the state or county. The easy one to blame is this family," attorney Neil Bruntrager said
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[10-Mar-20 11:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tl;dr this family had confirmed CV and were told to quarantine themselves, so instead daddy and daughter went to a daddy daughter dance out in public


[10-Mar-20 11:44 AM] jlun2#8758
> daddy daughter dance out in public
:lewd:


[10-Mar-20 11:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
This is why china forcing people into a quarantine


[10-Mar-20 12:20 PM] Opponent#3498
Gabbard 2020 :upvote:


[10-Mar-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Gabbard for supreme overlord 2020


[10-Mar-20 01:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Gabby 2020


[10-Mar-20 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/ec3g351wtol41.jpg

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[10-Mar-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-moves-after-worst-drop-since-2008-2020-3-1028981435

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Dow rebounds sharply a day after suffering the worst plunge since t...
US stocks saw a sharp rebound on Tuesday, a day after suffering their worst decline since the depths of the financial crisis. The rally is being...
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[10-Mar-20 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/f5IPn1t.jpg

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Side by (opposing) side
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[10-Mar-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well, life good again.


[10-Mar-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
untilt hey realize oil stocks are still fucked


[10-Mar-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-moves-after-worst-drop-since-2008-2020-3-1028981435

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Dow erases 900-point gain, turns lower amid uncertainty over US sti...
US stocks erased gains from a sharp rebound on Tuesday, a day after suffering their worst decline since the depths of the financial crisis. The ...
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[10-Mar-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aaaand it;s going down again


[10-Mar-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Yaaay positive thing! OH GOD THE NEGATIVE THING STILL EXISTS!!!"

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[10-Mar-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
number small life bad


[10-Mar-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486748-sanders-on-clinton-criticism-unlike-secretary-clinton-i-dont-want-to-relive

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Sanders responds to Clinton criticism: 'Unlike Secretary Clinton, I...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a 2020 White House hopeful, responded late Tuesday to criticism from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying he doesn't want to relive 2016, unlike the former Democratic nominee.
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[10-Mar-20 05:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486812-biden-tells-man-confronting-him-about-2nd-amendment-youre-full-of-shit#

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Biden tells man confronting him about Second Amendment 'you're full...
Former Vice President Joe Biden engaged in a heated discussion with a construction worker on Tuesday who accused him of trying to take away guns from Americans during a campaign stop in Michigan.
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[10-Mar-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
wut


[10-Mar-20 05:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"If I act like Trump people won't notice I'm senile"


[10-Mar-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Any video of me saying things is a lie!"


[10-Mar-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486817-trump-budget-chief-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak

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Trump budget chief holds firm on CDC cuts amid virus outbreak
White House acting Budget Director Russ Vought on Tuesday doubled down on proposed cuts to health services and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), despite the coronavirus outbreak.
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[10-Mar-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/486775-trump-ramps-up-pressure-on-fed-to-cut-rates

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Trump ramps up pressure on Fed to cut rates
President Trump on Tuesday ramped up pressure on the Federal Reserve to slash interest rates, berating the central bank one week before it is expected to cut borrowing costs for the second time this month.
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[10-Mar-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/486834-pelosi-rejects-calls-to-shutter-capitol-were-the-captains-of-this-ship

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Pelosi rejects calls to shutter Capitol: 'We're the captains of thi...
With the Capitol consumed by anxiety over the coronavirus, Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) rose in a private meeting Tuesday and told his Democratic colleagues they should leave Washington and return home to their districts, whe
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[10-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-hongkong-idUSKBN20X205

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Hong Kong denies 'slavery' as prisoners work nights to make face masks
KUALA LUMPUR (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Hong Kong prison authorities rejecte...
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[10-Mar-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Mar-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.ksdk.com/mobile/article/news/local/north-st-louis-polling-location-moved/63-c845e0fd-c006-4840-a51c-f09c5012db46

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Man threatened to 'shoot up' St. Louis polling place, poured bleach...
The polling place was moved to a different location
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[10-Mar-20 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/pope-francis-urges-priests-to-refrain-from-molesting-ch-1842220949

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Pope Francis Urges Priests To Refrain From Molesting Children Over ...
VATICAN CITY—Stressing that ensuring the safety of all clergy members remained the Holy See’s primary concern, Pope Francis issued a statement Monday urging priests worldwide to refrain from molesting children over escalating coronavirus fears. “During this trying period, we a...
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[10-Mar-20 07:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/dr-marty-makary-on-coronavirus-wuhan-could-happen-here.html

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Johns Hopkins' Dr. Marty Makary on coronavirus: 'What happened in W...
"Viruses don't care about politics and they don't care about location," Johns Hopkins University Dr. Marty Makary said.
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[10-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mcmiag/status/1237375480065556480?s=19

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Raccoon City Ponycon (@mcmiag)
https://twitter.com/mcmiag/status/1237375480065556480?s=19
black voters after their chosen electable safe Democrat gets fuckin smoked by Trump for the 2nd election in a row
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[10-Mar-20 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-trump-emergency-us-cases-white-house-a9389606.html

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White House officials 'considering declaring national state of emer...
Preliminary talks come amid criticism of Donald Trump’s handling of the crisis
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[10-Mar-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
> “No one knew how bad this could be”, in 3,2,1...


[10-Mar-20 07:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry didn't realize who posted that.


[10-Mar-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/state-issues/486853-north-carolina-gov-declares-state-of-emergency-over

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North Carolina governor declares state of emergency over coronavirus
North Carolina Gov.
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[10-Mar-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/opinion/trump-economy-coronavirus.html

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By Paul Krugman
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/opinion/trump-economy-coronavirus.html
Opinion | Trump Can’t Handle the Truth
And neither can the rest of America’s right.
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[10-Mar-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
> Wait, there’s more. After the economic crisis helped Barack Obama win the 2008 election, right-wing pundits declared that it was all a left-wing conspiracy. Karl Rove and Bill O’Reilly accused the news media of hyping bad news to enable Obama’s socialist agenda, while Rush Limbaugh asserted that Senator Chuck Schumer personally caused the crisis (don’t ask).


[10-Mar-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
that sounds familiar


[10-Mar-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/09/its-now-or-never-us-if-it-hopes-keep-coronavirus-burning-out-control/


[10-Mar-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Mar-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
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[10-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/486882-alex-jones-arrested-in-texas

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Alex Jones arrested in Texas
Infowars founder Alex Jones was arrested near Austin on Tuesday morning for driving while intoxicated,
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[10-Mar-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Put sad because anyone driving drunk and potentially hurting someone is sad


[10-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Christ, media keeps complaining Sanders is mean and angry, so go Joe because he's friendly and nice; now Biden tells a guy at a rally he's "full of shit", and media's all  😍  _Finally, we have a fighter that can talk straight and take Trump head on_ 😍

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[10-Mar-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
> Math and history must guide our next steps


[10-Mar-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
guess which subjects trump failed in school

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[10-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[10-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mcmiag/status/1237375480065556480?s=19

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Raccoon City Ponycon (@mcmiag)
https://twitter.com/mcmiag/status/1237375480065556480?s=19
black voters after their chosen electable safe Democrat gets fuckin smoked by Trump for the 2nd election in a row
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Twitter


[10-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden and Trump are rude, Bernie is merely angry.


[10-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rudeness and arrogance is interpreted as strength by the weak minded.


[10-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anger is justified sometimes, rudeness rarely is.


[10-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Changing the conversation about "civility" means letting people be angry, not letting them be a dick.


[10-Mar-20 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
> civility
I feel like that's some code for whiteness nowadays.


[10-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It basically is


[10-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
No it's a code for not challenging whiteness.


[10-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[10-Mar-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
not challenging whiteness


[10-Mar-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
not challenging religious displays (of christianity; challenging religious displays of other religions is a-ok)


[10-Mar-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
not challenging normative heterosexual displays (yelling at gay people is fine)


[10-Mar-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
not challenging normative sexism and domestic abuse (it's uncivil for you to bring up my wife-beating at the dinner table!)


[10-Mar-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
a large part of this "civility" BS is all about preserving the idea that heterosexual WASP men are the pillars of society


[10-Mar-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-10/bolsonaro-says-fraud-kept-him-from-1st-round-brazil-election-win


[10-Mar-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
ah, yes


[10-Mar-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
a rigged election that he still won


[10-Mar-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
with his powers of... god! and patriotism!


[10-Mar-20 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
god i hate his fucking face


[10-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/TheHubrisGuy/status/1237412164874321920

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Dick Clark (@TheHubrisGuy)
https://twitter.com/TheHubrisGuy/status/1237412164874321920
Very cool, Sally!
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[11-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.infowarsstore.com/dwi-survival-guide

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DWI Survival Guide
A Citizen's Protection Manual
https://www.infowarsstore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/22607b8f96ef95b964e010ac999d2069/t/e/tewasdwi.jpg


[11-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[11-Mar-20 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/03/democrats-you-really-do-not-want-to-nominate-joe-biden

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Democrats, You Really Do Not Want To Nominate Joe Biden ❧ Current A...
We urgently need to remember who Biden is and think carefully about what would happen if he were chosen.
https://images.currentaffairs.org/2020/03/oljoe-1024x646.jpg


[11-Mar-20 12:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
this article manages to be so simple and obvious to me


[11-Mar-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yet it remains emotionally powerful


[11-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just call an Uber


[11-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What kind of place won't let you leave your car in their lot for one night


[11-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/1AasyDm

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wash ur hands
https://i.imgur.com/6aillQch.jpg


[11-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VGTqyI3.png

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[11-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
5 tests per million people in the US for a virus that's projected to infect 96 million americans


[11-Mar-20 12:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that'd be a death rate of around 2,88 million americans


[11-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
the fatality rate is 3.4% now


[11-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
which means 3.264 million americans


[11-Mar-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah


[11-Mar-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that's 400.000 more


[11-Mar-20 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1237411119867674627

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i bless the rains down in castamere (@Chinchillazllla)
https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1237411119867674627
this is literally the first thing I saw when logging on so I'm logging off
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[11-Mar-20 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/08/world/coronavirus-news.html

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In U.S., Cases of Coronavirus Cross 500, and Deaths Rise to 22
A top U.S. health official says regional lockdowns are possible and warns the most vulnerable against travel as a 19th person dies in Washington State.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/08/us/politics/08virus-briefing-cruise-promo/08virus-briefing-cruise-promo-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[11-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
the gifts must spread.


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Undergrad part of my University suspended in person classes next week


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomer here's my gift ❤️


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get that tweet


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
mine has yet to


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
what's the tattoo about?


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not graduate, for some reason left that to individual deans


[11-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's irony, keeping a med school open.


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
why would anyone put that sort of thing on themselves


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
I can understand decorative tattoos


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obsessed with Warren.


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess.


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
what does it mean though


[11-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
what does #B7E4CF mean? I think it's hexadecimal


[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it's a color


[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://yello.substack.com/p/with-liberty-green-elizabeth-warren

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With liberty green, Elizabeth Warren brands herself a new kind of D...
Democrats have been defined by the color blue since election night 2000, when the current red-blue party dichotomy was codified in TV news’ color-coded election results maps. The color has become visual shorthand for the party and it has been the primary color of every Democra...
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[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
LIBERTY GREEN


[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
🦅🦅🦅


[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
🟩


[11-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden projected to win Missouri and Mississippi


[11-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's obvious that biden will win the south


[11-Mar-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
freedom puke


[11-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
wow


[11-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Opponent#3498
Liberty Green. I used Twicane and apparently was absolutely correct.


[11-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Opponent#3498
:twicane:


[11-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden will do great in states that would never vote democrat in the first place, gj


[11-Mar-20 01:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
clearly we need Sherman to come back and burn it all down all over again


[11-Mar-20 01:13 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm still convinced  the only way for free health care is for boomers to go poof, but I'm uncertain if grown up GenX/Millenials/Zoomers would even vote for that by they time they're 65


[11-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But TSP, everyone knows if you win the popular vote, that's what counts.


[11-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual presidency is just the cherry icing.


[11-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a contest for hearts and minds 😹


[11-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
you mean "civility" and "electablity"


[11-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, under that viewpoint, civility and electability are how you're supposed to win the hearts and minds.


[11-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You tell everyone everything's okay and then they go "yeah you're the lesser evil, it warms my heart cokkles"


[11-Mar-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also the problem with the tattoo is that, the way it was done, it looks like a concentration camp tattoo


[11-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you lose in a big trash fire and everyone gets all sad 😿


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the way "moderates" think it should be.


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Camp tattoos were along the forearm, not across the wrist


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri was a swing state once.


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the South.


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri isn't the South.


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, southern part is


[11-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Missouri too.


[11-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep.


[11-Mar-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay


[11-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electing some waffling dipshit in the primary, then choosing the utter racist in the general is exactly why primaries are bad.


[11-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's effectively staged so that liberals can't win.


[11-Mar-20 01:21 AM] jlun2#8758
Do old people never learn or something


[11-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They learn.


[11-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Trump.


[11-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want Biden second.


[11-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want anything but Bernie.


[11-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's Bernie v. Trump, old people will vote Trump.


[11-Mar-20 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
results coming in from Michigan, 1% precints reporting


[11-Mar-20 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden 54%, Bernie 41%

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[11-Mar-20 01:24 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I don't see young people magically voting at 65, despite my jokes tbh


[11-Mar-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would Bernie try again next time, but with a strategy change? Or nah dead


[11-Mar-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
No


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
He's too damn old


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Will just be AOC.


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie would retire


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
It'll be AOC yeah


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or honestly probably Biden


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
or Lee Carter from Virginia


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sadly/happily I think he'll win.


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Sherrod Brown


[11-Mar-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
good god, too many fucking boomers


[11-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just got an email, my program isn't being suspended next week. Even though the undergrad program is


[11-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hopefully this is over by July


[11-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely.


[11-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus has potential to become endemic.


[11-Mar-20 01:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 secret boomer factory.


[11-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, this time next year the vaccines will be coming out so that people stop getting sikk at random.


[11-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll definitely be less impactful by August.


[11-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But I would expect the virus going strong in June


[11-Mar-20 01:33 AM] jlun2#8758
August 2021? or this year


[11-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I swear if the bar exams get postponed


[11-Mar-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I really hope progressives in the future will learn from Bernie's mistakes, and if they want to help young people, ironically NEVER rely on them in politics. Ever


[11-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again maybe you don't want like 600 people in a hotel closely together for eight hours a day


[11-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McGovern was supposed to teach that lesson.


[11-Mar-20 01:36 AM] jlun2#8758
Maybe appeal to boomers, then sneak some young policies  in


[11-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason you can't rely on young people is because the US system is designed to force them out.


[11-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because young people are bad.


[11-Mar-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not the hekkin Bidenrino!


[11-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well let's hope they do better! Oh, those poor kids! 😿


[11-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
what does the harry potter and the deathly hallows have to do with it though


[11-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the One Book that liberals read


[11-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how conservatives only read 1984


[11-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
idk, maybe a jab about how jk rowling is openly transphobic


[11-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
and kinda racist


[11-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it isn't that though she is


[11-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
(really reminds me of biden)


[11-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People on Twitter and Tumblr would compare the GOP with death eaters and Trump with Voldemort during 2016-17


[11-Mar-20 02:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm planning on issuing a bet ostensibly to the at least one known Liz Lad in my friend group. If Biden beats Trump I delete my Facebook. Of Trump beats Biden you have to read a book of my chosing. Failure to do so means either side can badger the other.


[11-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And some other dumb comparions and lessons


[11-Mar-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
>badger


[11-Mar-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[11-Mar-20 02:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lol


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, I found a movie that seemed like a cringy take on how boomers think about millennials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Gift

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The Ultimate Gift
The Ultimate Gift is a 2006 American drama film directed by Michael O. Sajbel from a screenplay written by Cheryl McKay, which is based on the best selling novel by Jim Stovall, who cameos in the film. It stars Drew Fuller, Ali Hillis, Bill Cobbs, Abigail Breslin, Brian Denneh...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Theatrical_poster_of_film%2C_The_Ultimate_Gift%2C_2007.jpg


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harry Potter is babby's first political drama.


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to Star Wars but much less subtle.


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow looks p cringe ngl.

Also seen you post it before


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
For real, one of the antagonists is basically just Thatcher with a wand and a job at Hogwarts.


[11-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's hated more than Voldemort.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot watch the movie where she appears without utterly wanting her to die.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
you mean umbridge?


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
She gets implicitly raped offscreen near the end.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dolores Umbridge.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
she was specifically there to fuck up teaching the students


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a tear will be shed about her being raped.


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
that was her goal


[11-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
She made Harry write a lie into his own skin.


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomer porn


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
I read the books when I was like 12 lol


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but hav you seen the movie?


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
no


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
I read it during recess before I found out fanfics


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think there's anything comparable in Cinema to Umbridge.


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
well, I've seen movies 1-4


[11-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
but not 5-8


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
oh, maybe I saw 5


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, she is simultaneously WAY too real and WAY too evil.


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
I don't remember the movies much


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It hits hard.


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conservatives like


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
think Voldemort was right.


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge political allegory.


[11-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So saying someone likes Harry Potter can be a way to show they aren't LE CONSERVATIVE ELITE


[11-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
oh, the 7th book came out when I was 15, I read it though


[11-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
>implicitly gets raped


[11-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
did I miss something?


[11-Mar-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
umbridge was kidnapped by centaurs


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Centaurs are rapey in Harry Potter.


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very rapey.


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
their mythology says they're rapists


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
in greek mythology


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
She returns in later movies


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
there's only male centaurs


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
without physical injuries.


[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty clear what happened.

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[11-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
and they need human females to breed


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
wait. this is a magic universe where some of the characters changed thier gender to disguise themselves,  and the writer is transphobic apparently ? huh. @byte[]


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
TIL I guess


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
JK Rowling is a very Biden person.


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A647129

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[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dumbledore is gay, but secretly, in the closet, where it's okay.


[11-Mar-20 02:13 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow I'm advocating self cloning forever


[11-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rowling doesn't really think things thru.


[11-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wizards just shat themselves before plumbing.


[11-Mar-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They never use guns or phones.


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Rowling is extremely transphobic


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can make yourself look like another person entirely with a simple potion, but it's SE C R ETTTTTT


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
also date rape potions are easily available


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
for like 2 pounds


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and one of them gets fukking used on Ron


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's treated as not a big deal.


[11-Mar-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, a female student gave Ron a tainted letter to make him become a mindless love slave for hours

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[11-Mar-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it nearly seriously hurt him


[11-Mar-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then...that's that.


[11-Mar-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the most serious moment of danger in the film series short of life or death battles later on


[11-Mar-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then they're just like "whatever, let's move on"


[11-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But oh no, a spell that painlessly instantly kills people.


[11-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unforgivable, never ever use it.


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomers are cultural aliens with respect to young


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden wins Michigan.


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, when they want to really punish someone


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
they put them in a room with things that EAT YOUR SOUL

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[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's over.


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's not horrifying, you know.


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not over if Biden gets hospitalized.


[11-Mar-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Come on coronavirus, you're already making paid sikk leave possible.


[11-Mar-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pick Stacey Abrams


[11-Mar-20 02:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> Biden gets hospitalized 
Just by saying that you triggered his immunity.  Now he'll live 4 more years.


[11-Mar-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
he'll lose to trump in 2024 too


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
assuming we still have elections by then


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden alive in 2024 is hard to believe.


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, it wouldn't be surprising if Trump, Biden, AND Bernie are dead by 2024


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
.p wheeze


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[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can't be run by people over 70 like this.


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We may have two titles for first female president


[11-Mar-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I see a real scenario where trump issues a national executive order canceling all elections this year


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First female president and first elected female president


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's mind is falling apart, Trump acts like a child, and Bernie's heart can't last forever.


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Ocasio-Cortez 2024


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note that Coronavirus is really bad for Republicans btw

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[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really bad for them.


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh I kind of count Wilson's wife as the first acting female president


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It barely hurts young people, but fukks up the elderly.


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
No shit it's bad for them


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I said literally all 3 about my grandpa. A decade later he's still chilling.


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their policies also promote its spread.


[11-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She would take his hand and "help" him with documents


[11-Mar-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking inb4Invanka


[11-Mar-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486922-democrats-scrap-live-audience-for-arizona-debate

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Democrats scrap live audience for Arizona debate
The Democratic National Committee (DNC) announced on Tuesday there will be no live audience allowed at Sunday night’s debate in Arizona between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen.
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[11-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they'd boo Biden.


[11-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is it still going to be sitting?


[11-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Karmadose#6969
wtf is no live audience typical for these types of debates?


[11-Mar-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably, hell it will probably be an empty white room with no hosts


[11-Mar-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cant lose the debate if there;s no debate going on


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Usually there's some audience


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
They scrapped the audience for virus fears


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm assuming they're scrapping it over virus co-


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Karmadose#6969
biden will not even know where he is during the debate and watch cnn still say he performed exceptionally


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because if Biden catches the virus he will die.


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Either tbh


[11-Mar-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
If sanders catches the virus he will die


[11-Mar-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
But biden's eye will explode while he's dying


[11-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's just more likely to walk up and sniff people


[11-Mar-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
which will at least give us something to laugh at while we're crying


[11-Mar-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Let me get a whiff of that corona, baby"


[11-Mar-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/biden-pointing-laughing-gif-5361798

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[11-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Karmadose#6969
if biden caught the coronvirus and dropped out it would be glorious since trump is the one who made america vulnerable to it in the first place


[11-Mar-20 02:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> biden caught the coronvirus and dropped out
because the world hates liberals it'd probably be Sanders that ends up ⚰️


[11-Mar-20 02:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I don't want that to happen, but I'm pessimistic


[11-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Karmadose#6969
the past 8ish years in politics has made me somehow lose more faith in humanity


[11-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden's face scares me...


[11-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What even happens if the nominee up and dies?


[11-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he looks like he would be a character in a live action courage the cowardly dog


[11-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the delegates revote?


[11-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Karmadose#6969
that's when trump declares himself a king


[11-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Emergency meeting, revote, yep.


[11-Mar-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump has just about declared himself king


[11-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they'd probably hand it over to Warren or something.


[11-Mar-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Sooo


[11-Mar-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
king of isreal


[11-Mar-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
well, at least the next 4 years would probably be tons of infighting and mostly nothing productive done


[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he literally declared himself king of isreal


[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-second-coming-king-israel/

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Did Donald Trump Call Himself the 'Second Coming of God,' the 'Chos...
Multiple internet memes and news reports played off comments the 45th president made in a series of statements in August 2019.
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[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] jlun2#8758
apparently false rip


[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, if Biden gets hospitalized soon, that'll really tilt things to Bernie.


[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If however he goes on longer...


[11-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
that'd be a mess.


[11-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he's hospitalized late in the process, it could lead to a contested convention with Bernie having a slim lead.


[11-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he dies after nomination, I think the delegates vote Warren and shaft Bernie, which leads to everyone hating her at once.


[11-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Karmadose#6969
america seriously threw itself back into the shitter for 4 years because they couldn't stand bernie fans and snake emojis, what a time to be alive


[11-Mar-20 02:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose old people have commie phobia


[11-Mar-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old people have a death wish


[11-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Karmadose#6969
gotta stay vigilant for that soviet takeover you know


[11-Mar-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
a bernie bro was mean to me online so now I think poor people don't deserve healthcare


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that an awful lot of rich people paid to make sure we didn't like him


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not just in ads


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but in making sure he didn't get as much coverage


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor people are criminally insane! they msut be put into asylums at once!


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] jlun2#8758
no mention of youth vote?


[11-Mar-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and *leaping* on the story about his alleged remarks about women


[11-Mar-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a story which made no waves when it first hit the news *when he said it*


[11-Mar-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for the youth vote, you can thank the Republicans for that


[11-Mar-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it only made waves once biden started losing


[11-Mar-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how terribly convenient


[11-Mar-20 02:49 AM] jlun2#8758
> As for the youth vote, you can thank the Republicans for that
tbh who the hell are the minority of young people voting republican


[11-Mar-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, that's not it at all


[11-Mar-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you see, since the 2016 election, there has been an even greater push by the GOP to supress opposition votes


[11-Mar-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that means things like making it harder to register, or closing polling places in Texas as the population grew


[11-Mar-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
all of that was in place *before* the primaries even started


[11-Mar-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
since they can't win over younger, urban voters, they just gerrymander them into irrelevance


[11-Mar-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
making sure certain ballot types are unavailable


[11-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm amazed voting doesn't require answering questions about 70s pop culture


[11-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"What was Robert Redford's best grossing movie of 1976? Oh, you don't know? Guess you're not American enough to vote!"


[11-Mar-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And absolutely making sure that absentee ballot availability isn't a thing you advertise


[11-Mar-20 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because then it'd be easy for someone who, say, is away at college to vote in their district


[11-Mar-20 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and make sure if they do go away to college that it counts as a change of address and delete their voter registration and force them to re-register


[11-Mar-20 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but don't tell them


[11-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Karmadose#6969
america partially grew aware of how much of an idiot trump is, but somehow still falls for the same bullshit biased news coverage and propaganda that got him in office to begin with


[11-Mar-20 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's because you're dealing with two separate groups of Americans there


[11-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Karmadose#6969
very sad outlook for the future, i don't want to mentally check myself out for the next 4 years but my mental health is demanding it


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the ones who are paying attention and the ones who showed up and voted


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose 
"America"? You mean young people. The ones that never vote. 
The old ones still consume fake news like water.


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose where do you live?


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Conservatives that know Trump's a moron don't care


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Karmadose#6969
san francisco cali


[11-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's on their side, that's all that matters


[11-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Karmadose#6969
we need to ban memes until kids start getting their asses out to the polls


[11-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Karmadose#6969
for america


[11-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Steam, XBL, and PSN accounts locked until you enter a code given to you at the polling booth


[11-Mar-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
him being dumber is even better for them, they thrive off moron leaders


[11-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Karmadose#6969
i wonder how realistic it would be to get big sites like reddit or something to disable itself on essential voting days and asking people to get their asses out and vote


[11-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Karmadose#6969
like activism to start getting a holiday on election days


[11-Mar-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that provided the people you're goading into voting have the ability to do so


[11-Mar-20 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again: absentee ballots


[11-Mar-20 02:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose dont see that happening ever


[11-Mar-20 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're so powerful but no one realizes it


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Karmadose#6969
is that like mail-in stuff?


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Karmadose#6969
that's what i did here


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Karmadose#6969
i wish every state offered it


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh right I forgot there are states that *don't*


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because why


[11-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Karmadose#6969
i wonder why eh


[11-Mar-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the illegal mexijews might get their dirty hands on them!


[11-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, how do expats from those states vote, then?


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
can we get a pandemic that eliminates all old people, not just a % of them


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This tbh


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like my parents =/


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Karmadose#6969
we need a super coronavirus


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want my [parents to live


[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make™

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[11-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Karmadose#6969
someone contact the developer of plague.inc


[11-Mar-20 03:02 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) That's an alien feeling for me


[11-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
there's conservatives saying that bernie should quit since he can't beat biden anymore


[11-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
that there shouldn't be any more debates


[11-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't win, so you shouldn't vote for him. You didn't vote for him, so he can't win. Chekkmate, liberals.


[11-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486946-andrew-yang-endorses-biden-in-2020-primary-races

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Andrew Yang endorses Biden in 2020 race
Andrew Yang has endorsed Joe Biden, becoming the latest former 2020 Democratic presidential candidate to throw their support behind Biden's White House bid.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/yangandrew_013020gn16_lead.jpg


[11-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🐍🐍🐍


[11-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Treascair#7785
*notches their vote for Bernie*


[11-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He will duck out one week from now and push Biden left


[11-Mar-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
Puppet biden


[11-Mar-20 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nobody deserved this


[11-Mar-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing I don't really get is why the overton window's shifted so fully right that progressivism itself is abhorrent to both major parties


[11-Mar-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or at the very least, those in charge


[11-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, as recently as the 80s, archeologists thought that Africans couldn't've made the statues found in dig sites.


[11-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The overton window hasn't shifted right, it's just that we're realizing how fukking racist and shitty Boomers are.


[11-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize that when Haiti had a successful slave revolt, it resulted in European nations wanting to not abolish slavery for fear it'd promote violence.


[11-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Karmadose#6969
It's not so much the overton window shifted far right moreso than it is old fucks who own big corporations who want to save their stupid amount of wealth by making sure progressive policies don't tax them


[11-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of equality is abhorrent to most Europeans that hav ever lived.


[11-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Karmadose#6969
They'd rather gamble on having biden win and have 8 more years of a boring obama like centrist over bernie


[11-Mar-20 04:15 AM] Karmadose#6969
or they're straight malicious and don't care if trump gets 4 more years


[11-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's not really just old white people with big fortunes but anyone with a fortune imo.


[11-Mar-20 04:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
But hey, I've already resigned myself to this being the Alzheimer's race and will enjoy the comedy now


[11-Mar-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because like post-2016, post-2020 is a good time to explore non-parliamentary political organization.


[11-Mar-20 04:21 AM] Karmadose#6969
It is a meme how every candidate recently seems to be breaking the record for oldest president


[11-Mar-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ya'll mofos weak there


[11-Mar-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hearse Race mode activated for America.


[11-Mar-20 04:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Refer to @ononim for the details on that period


[11-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/maxleibman/status/1237142373001551872

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I’m seeing chatter about government bailouts for airlines. Maybe the airlines should have saved some of their paychecks for a rainy day? A good start would be if the airlines gave up that daily $5 latte.
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[11-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3jTG76d.jpg

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Well....
https://i.imgur.com/3jTG76d.jpg


[11-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Insert that one Truman quote here


[11-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a weasel word, socialism means nothing.


[11-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you are a strict anarcho libertarian you support socialist policies to some degree.


[11-Mar-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
subsidies
are
not
socialism


[11-Mar-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
healthcare is not socialism


[11-Mar-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
conservatives are, however, sociopathic assholes


[11-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
SANS


[11-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
undertale


[11-Mar-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders is not a socialist


[11-Mar-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
He's a ploy by capitalists to save neoliberalism from itself


[11-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I'm pretty sure most people here know this lol


[11-Mar-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
and prevent an actual socialist uprising


[11-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I've never once seen anything that implies sanders is a neoliberal


[11-Mar-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
He's... not


[11-Mar-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not what I'm saying


[11-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
but the tweet is about how conservatives and neoliberals are screaming about bernie's policies being "socialist" but not screaming about the exact same things being done for big bailouts for big businesses and other groups


[11-Mar-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
if elected, he'd be a savior of neoliberalism though because he merely wants to reform our shitty capitalist system into doing slightly more for the people


[11-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it wouldn't really be neoliberalism anymore if it no longer protected neoliberal ideologies


[11-Mar-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of an actual socialist who would instead abolish the system and transfer power to the proletariat


[11-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
his policies would transform the US from a neoliberal society to a social democratic society


[11-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
assuming the president after bernie didn't abolish everything


[11-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
neoliberalism needs a lot of resources to prop it up that would otherwise be going to the people


[11-Mar-20 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
giving poor people healthcare doesn't _not_ protect neoliberal ideologies


[11-Mar-20 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
in fact it actually benefits them


[11-Mar-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
same with decriminalizing scheduled drugs or free childcare or any of Sanders' more popular policies


[11-Mar-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
taxing rich people and making sure the law is applied fairly is where he actually cuts into that ideology


[11-Mar-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
given that republicans exist, that is more likely to be a light graze than an actual cut


[11-Mar-20 05:03 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder if 4 more years of Trump would accelerate the exodus of young people from (mostly Christian) churches, or nah rate stays around the same?


[11-Mar-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
dunno


[11-Mar-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
has it accelerated in the past 3 years?


[11-Mar-20 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
my impression is that young people have not been involved much with the church anyway


[11-Mar-20 05:08 AM] byte[]#2610
There are lots of totally secular outlets for activities these days and most people are more apathetic about religion than you think


[11-Mar-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
And when you have the internet and can easily debunk religious leaders as spouting a bunch of total bullshit, well...


[11-Mar-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
It makes it hard to take _anything_ they say seriously, including the existence of a god


[11-Mar-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
irony https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51827356

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Health minister tests positive for coronavirus
Nadine Dorries, the first MP to test positive, is one of 382 confirmed cases in the UK.
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[11-Mar-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Millenials and zoomers are the most informed generations ever. They are throwing off the chains and exposing everything for what it really is


[11-Mar-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
And when the boomers and Xers are gone, then we can work to build a better future for all


[11-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Karmadose#6969
Time isn't going by fast enough then


[11-Mar-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the end of this year might be a better time for reflection


[11-Mar-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
first of all, more boomers will have naturally died just of age related causes


[11-Mar-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
second, the coronavirus pandemic is projected to infect a substantial majority of the US. If it keeps its kill rate, that means millions of dead boomers


[11-Mar-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
third, the stock market crashed, which is going to affect both pensions and retirement investments, which boomers depend on (along with SS) to live and pay medical bills with. having those decline will have the painfully ironic side effect of killing more boomers who can't afford their care


[11-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Crow#5457
I doubt neoliberalism as it currently exists in the US would be able to survive more than a decade under the policies bernie advocates for


[11-Mar-20 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
if it managed to survive, it would be diminished


[11-Mar-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Republican neoliberalism no


[11-Mar-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
The more persistent but less evil Clintonian neoliberalism, yes


[11-Mar-20 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/23/joe-biden-inspires-no-one-not-even-his-own-wife

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Joe Biden inspires no one — not even his own wife | Bhaskar Sunkara
Can we stop pretending that Joe Biden is the inevitable 2020 candidate?
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/9e2a3a3cd70992201741944407843c9e16fa1546/74_112_3215_1929/master/3215.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&enable=upscale&s=3a97aed17cceb037a007e7d250d50159


[11-Mar-20 05:39 AM] Crow#5457
cucked? (yes I know it's old)


[11-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/politics/andrew-yang-endorses-joe-biden/index.html

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Andrew Yang endorses Joe Biden for president
Former Democratic presidential nominee Andrew Yang endorsed Joe Biden live on CNN on Tuesday night, calling him "the right man for the job to help us not just defeat Donald Trump, but govern the country in the years ahead."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200131114119-101-andrew-yang-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[11-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Urging the Democrats to shift their focus now to defeating the President, Yang credited Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont as "an inspiration" but said "the math says Joe is our prohibitive nominee."'


[11-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, his argument is "well, Biden's winning, so no point in trying to support the better candidate"


[11-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
US primaries are snowbally as fukk and it's very bad.


[11-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
People aren't voting who they think is better.


[11-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're voting whoever looks like they're winning.


[11-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to feel like they won - by switching to the winning team.


[11-Mar-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/E1p0WOl25nQ

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Louis Rossmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1p0WOl25nQ
The ONE person stopping Right To Repair in Minnesota
https://www.senate.mn/members/member_bio.php?member_id=1174


🔵 Patreon https://www.patreon.com/rossmanngroup
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E1p0WOl25nQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Mar-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I know I don't like it when other people link YT videos in here but this is actually a primary source


[11-Mar-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a tertiary one like Pool or Christiansen


[11-Mar-20 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/clyburn-calls-democrats-shut-primary-down-if-biden-has-big-n1155131

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Clyburn calls for Democrats to 'shut this primary down' if Biden ha...
The South Carolina congressman spoke as six states were voting with 352 delegates up for grabs.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_11/3264791/200310-jim-clyburn-2019-ac-1017p_54d1a55d007eaa8659b852bdd27fe4cc.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Mar-20 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, it's worse than that


[11-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
there's people calling to just straight up end the democratic primary because of how bad it'll make biden look the more he's on stage


[11-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Rep. Jim Clyburn, the influential lawmaker who helped lead Joe Biden to an overwhelming victory in South Carolina, says the Democrat National Committee should "shut this primary down" to help the former vice president's chances in November.


[11-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically, they don't want bernie debating biden one on one


[11-Mar-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
because they realize that biden would be destroyed by bernie, just like biden's going to be destroyed by trump


[11-Mar-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[11-Mar-20 06:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> biden's going to be destroyed by trump
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[11-Mar-20 06:53 AM] jlun2#8758
I can't vote (not American) so might as well sit back and watch


[11-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/687164972953763840/3ry845.png

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[11-Mar-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
conservatives going gaga over this


[11-Mar-20 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
blaming the young people for bernie losing


[11-Mar-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean it was conservatives who prevented them from voting soooo


[11-Mar-20 07:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for them to add an age limit of 50 for voting just to make it official.


[11-Mar-20 07:13 AM] jlun2#8758
My experience with slacktivists ruins the pic for me


[11-Mar-20 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/trump-pitched-0percent-payroll-tax-rate-for-the-rest-of-this-year-white-house-officials-say.html

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Trump pitched 0% payroll tax rate for the rest of the year, White H...
Trump and the White House are attempting to put together an economic response to the coronavirus outbreak.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106435282-1583869637410gettyimages-1206474347r.jpg?v=1583888191


[11-Mar-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
> President Donald Trump, in a meeting with Republican lawmakers Tuesday on Capitol Hill, pitched a 0% payroll tax rate for employers and employees that would last through the rest of this year, a White House official told CNBC.
> 
> There was also discussion of making the payroll tax rollback permanent, said the official, who declined to be named. Payroll taxes are used to fund Medicare and Social Security. When asked about the potential cost of a payroll tax cut, the official pushed back and asked why there is always a focus on the cost of tax cuts.


[11-Mar-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
do it, you fucker, I dare you


[11-Mar-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
payroll tax cuts affect SS and Medicare


[11-Mar-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
guess who's on SS and Medicare?


[11-Mar-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
Boomers


[11-Mar-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
that would actually get trump voted out of office, there's too many boomers on social security and medicare for them not to feel it


[11-Mar-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
they wouldn't feel it for at least a few years


[11-Mar-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and if trump loses this year they'll blame it on biden


[11-Mar-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and then elect another republican of course in 2024


[11-Mar-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
if trump doesn't lose, they'll just die smirking that they owned the libs


[11-Mar-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
never underestimate boomer salt


[11-Mar-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```People aren't voting who they think is better.
They're voting whoever looks like they're winning.
They just want to feel like they won - by switching to the winning team.```


[11-Mar-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
never understood this tbh.


[11-Mar-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
'We lost!', no you didn't, there was never a 'you' in the first place. You relate to the elections and the politicians you elect about as much as to a local sports team.


[11-Mar-20 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
__not really__


[11-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
this crowd mentality suprises me more than it honestly should, every time I encounter it.


[11-Mar-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to be heard by joining the big muddled mess of moderateness, rather than to be not heard by actually stikking to your beliefs.


[11-Mar-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, the moderate mass doesn't care.


[11-Mar-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
People however buy into the illusion they get more control by joining it.


[11-Mar-20 08:54 AM] byte[]#2610
This country is not a democracy


[11-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oligarchy but with many layers of obfuscation.


[11-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plutocracy but with an utter mess in the middle.


[11-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Geritocracy but with random splints in.


[11-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the founding fathers knew this future, they would've put a shitton into the constitution to prevent the two-party system.


[11-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd be down with a plutocracy, but not something where parties basically control it and the president can sell state secrets.


[11-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it all really comes down to the legislature being an utter mess.


[11-Mar-20 08:57 AM] byte[]#2610
You ask too much of them


[11-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not asking anything


[11-Mar-20 08:58 AM] byte[]#2610
If they knew of a future where black people could vote they'd flip their shit


[11-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is this is a mess they wouldn't be okay with


[11-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yes SOME of them would initally flip out at that


[11-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but most of them would accept it, many of them were not happy appeasing the South so much.


[11-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founders HATED party systems with a passion.


[11-Mar-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much more than they hated other races (and much of that was mostly cause of Haiti)


[11-Mar-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would've been like "okay fine we gave blakks rights and it worked out, but why the hell did nobody put in something to stop parties once they came up???"


[11-Mar-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also wouldn't be happy about directly electing Senators, and most likely they'd see that as part of the problem, and realize that legislatures choosing Senators was actually doomed from the start.


[11-Mar-20 09:01 AM] byte[]#2610
or income taxes, or the massive distortion of federalism that has basically eroded the purpose of having states


[11-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, like half of them would just be really mad that states lost pretty much all power.


[11-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Income taxes they'd be fine with.


[11-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Income taxes were not unheard of.


[11-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(they were just infeasible in pre-modern times)


[11-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Opponent#3498
so the states originally were intended to be, literally, states, within a union.


[11-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Opponent#3498
with perhaps a more loose understanding of union that Soviets did, of course.


[11-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the biggest thing that would change if the founders knew the future is they'd make the senate be a strictly non-partisan thing where senators get appointed by a state's house reps and then confirmed by its legislature


[11-Mar-20 09:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what the articles of confederation were


[11-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a lot more shit would originate in the House, not just all taxes.


[11-Mar-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they'd basically bar the Senate from ever drafting legislation, only amending and confirming it.


[11-Mar-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That or they'd make many things require origination in the Senate to begin with and keep a sort of mirrored approach.


[11-Mar-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there'd be a lot less uncertainty about where bills will originate.


[11-Mar-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I think they'd empower the chief justice to remove ANY Senators that don't act neutral on impeachment.


[11-Mar-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of impeachment being completely neutered by a political party retaining control is absurd.


[11-Mar-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They trusted that a simple majority of Senators would act to throw out shits that weren't being fair.


[11-Mar-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That trust was misplaced.


[11-Mar-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment of the president has never, ever worked and probably never will until an amendment is passed on the matter.


[11-Mar-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for federalism, basically the big issue is the executive having people writing and enforcing and pretty much deciding on laws.


[11-Mar-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a complete power grab from both branches, but mostly the legislature.


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they'd probably put in a requirement that if any official is to write guidelines under legislation, they hav to be part of the judicial.


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> They trusted that a simple majority of Senators would act to throw out shits that weren't being fair.


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] byte[]#2610
This was obvious over 100 years ago too


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they'd probably make the judicial also responsible for finding people breaking laws


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
the executive would be relegated to basic investigations and foreign affairs.


[11-Mar-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not obvious over 200 years ago.


[11-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of these problems came in right after the founding fathers were dead.


[11-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
19th century America was horrid thru and thru.


[11-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It started with a hatred of Haiti's slave revolt working mixed with rapid territorial expansion


[11-Mar-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It briefly got better in the middle when the South was literally barred from writing new parts of the constitution and everyone figured out that equal rights means blakks too


[11-Mar-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it went right bakk to shitty with tons of imperialism.


[11-Mar-20 09:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and then someone stuck their Johnson in the machinery


[11-Mar-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, the problem has always been parties + the presidency.


[11-Mar-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parties control who gets into the legislature, the presidency then does its best to do shit whether it's legal or not.


[11-Mar-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founders probably wouldn't allow for a different voting system than FPTP, but they would probably explicitly write in stuff against favoring certain political parties, and also would require all election ads etc. be publicly funded.


[11-Mar-20 09:14 AM] byte[]#2610
was approval voting even known about back then


[11-Mar-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result would be slightly more shifts of parties.


[11-Mar-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[11-Mar-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a great deal of interest in voting systems at the time, but few were ready to be tested.


[11-Mar-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Borda Count was from 1770


[11-Mar-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Approval Voting didn't hav a proper name bakk then, but it was used mainly in Italian elections and the Catholic Church.


[11-Mar-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they didn't put much effort into voting systems AFAIK is because at the time there really wasn't much idea of direct elections.


[11-Mar-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electoral College was supposed to figure out the right president and vice president, not just blindly follow state votes.


[11-Mar-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senators were put in place by state legislatures as well


[11-Mar-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the federal level, only House reps were directly elected.


[11-Mar-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was somewhat of a good idea, but the problem is legislatures turned out to be super corrupt


[11-Mar-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And parties twisted the presidence and them a ton.


[11-Mar-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of some bright legislators choosing super enlightened senators, and the electoral college fudging things to avoid disaster, it just ended up with 19th century pork barrel politics.


[11-Mar-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the fundamental problem with enlightenment thinking btw


[11-Mar-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals look at enlightenment thinking and go "yeah equal rights! Actual freedom to say what you want!", conservatives look at it and go "Aha! So we just tell people they're equal and free, meanwhile we don't even need to chain them up to enslave them, because we hav all the money and crush them under our heels! Nice, yeah make up some shit for those retarded liberals."


[11-Mar-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founding fathers, while not entirely liberal, were very idealist at the time.


[11-Mar-20 09:21 AM] byte[]#2610
libtards owned


[11-Mar-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as soon as conservatives got in charge, they had a hayday.


[11-Mar-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
At its core, both sides are all about the enlightened, intellectual, man being ideal.


[11-Mar-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is liberals honestly believe this, and somehow expect it to all work out despite such a guy probably never doing a day of hard work in his life.


[11-Mar-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives dishonestly believe it, and totally expect he's actually just rich as fukk and are glad he will only lift a token finger for the lower classes.


[11-Mar-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want a good system, you need liberals and you need them EXTREMELY disillusioned to what goes on.


[11-Mar-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founding fathers were liberal enuff to make something resembling actual democracy, but they were not disillusioned enuff. They hadn't seen what happens to a Republic like that because none really existed with power at the time.


[11-Mar-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they had just a little bit more info on things they would've put in place a lot of protections.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
if you want disillusioned liberals, look no further than USSR :D


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolutely false.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin was conservative as fukk and saw an opening.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He took it and ate everything.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, way before him.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing before him truly mattered.


[11-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He ate everything.


[11-Mar-20 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
his attitude, too, was 'it's worth to kill 10% of nation's population to make the rest obey' (he never got there, really)


[11-Mar-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And right before he took control, people were super naive thinking he wouldn't.


[11-Mar-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, even if you just gave the founding fathers info on how Stalinism happened, they'd've added all sorts of shit to the constitution to try prevent the executive going crazy and parties amassing control.


[11-Mar-20 09:30 AM] Opponent#3498
the idea of Komintern predates Stalin, for example. The project to conquer the world by force, to then set it 'free'.


[11-Mar-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
well


[11-Mar-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
predates Stalin in the political leading position.


[11-Mar-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it'd teach them that it's a bad idea to draft policy behind closed doors "among gentlemen"


[11-Mar-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd've realized that that just breeds corruption when not everyone behind those closed doors is like, a freemason.


[11-Mar-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pretty big lesson that transparency is necessary for accountability is necessary for sane policy.


[11-Mar-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
(at the time America was being founded, they really didn't think the public seeing everything was good, because it was expected the common idiot would just ruin things, but ultimately it tends to be the case that common idiots take greater issue with visible corruption than just regular change, most of the time)


[11-Mar-20 09:34 AM] byte[]#2610
voting transparency in legislature may be detrimental to sane policy, as an exception


[11-Mar-20 09:34 AM] Opponent#3498
so far, it seems the common idiot takes more issue with things people tell them to take issue with


[11-Mar-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but you need to know where the hell bills and support come from.


[11-Mar-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not correct.


[11-Mar-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Public opinion polls are pretty consistent year to year on what's what.


[11-Mar-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, when things are actually put to the public directly, you tend to find common patterns even between redder and bluer states.


[11-Mar-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite often, the public as a whole takes a relatively reasonable approach at odds with the controlling party.


[11-Mar-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is especially the case in red states


[11-Mar-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will vote for minimum wage increases, access to healthcare, legal weed, renewable energy...and Republican politicians who oppose all those things.


[11-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the Republican party runs on fear/hate and a bunch of two-facedness about basic economic policy, let alone things like healthcare.


[11-Mar-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it is a problem that so many things are decided by politicians who are hard to hold accountable because them holding office is all-or-nothing.


[11-Mar-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The primaries, the two-party system, the policy laundering and lobbying, the campaign ads


[11-Mar-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
all of it in the end is just designed so that politicians can ignore what the public actually wants.


[11-Mar-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the demagogues, by and large.


[11-Mar-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And most things the public wants are agreed upon to be very very good things by experts.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well, in the end the public opinion is unenforceable. Whether it's a good thing or not (I can think of arguments for both sides). If the rulers decide 'fuck you, you don't matter at all, the police, the army and the propaganda campaign will protect us', the public sits still and takes it, no other ways around it.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The great failure of the American experiment is that the political elites do not enact policy that's best for the country *or* what the people want, but instead are just puppets of those with money. The founders wanted the wealthy in control, but only so that they would do what's best for the country in the event the people were wrong.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and this is exactly what I think US got with Trump.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very bad as a thing.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
or at least this is when it got to a head.


[11-Mar-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely ignoring the public without any purpose just makes policy that hurts people overall.


[11-Mar-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a retarded way to run a country.


[11-Mar-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you ignore the public, you need a good reason.


[11-Mar-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause most of what the public wants is what benefits them overall.


[11-Mar-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and if the goal is not to benefit people in the country the most overall, then wtf is your idea of the reason of gov't's existence)


[11-Mar-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some cases where you should go against the public is like, equal rights, or the death penalty.


[11-Mar-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inequal rights lead to severe problems with basic class mobility that hurt the public overall. Those on top may LIKE things, but ultimately it's not zero sum; equal rights is much more efficient.


[11-Mar-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can't really accept the public overall thinking some random group should be treated badly.


[11-Mar-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, there's 0 point in going to the huge effort and expense to kill your own citizens, and it just encourages more violence.


[11-Mar-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might giv the public overall some happiness, but that happiness is fleeting and pointless, it doesn't actually improve their livelihoods. Meanwhile, it can completely destroy whole families.


[11-Mar-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
America's tried at times on equal rights, but it's an absolute mess.


[11-Mar-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South has fought it every step of the way despite it being part of the founding.


[11-Mar-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it all goes bakk to the corrupt system whereby the legislature basically gets controlled by rich shitheads, many of whom are from the South.


[11-Mar-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
America generally doesn't follow public opinion and mostly doesn't on issues where public opinion is like, close to ideal


[11-Mar-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The civil rights movement and previously things like the 13th-15th amendments were rare times America went against public opinion with good cause.


[11-Mar-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both times, it was because the South got kikked in the nuts.


[11-Mar-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it tends to be the Judiciary that goes against public opinion to fix things.


[11-Mar-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are like the big win as far as America's setup.


[11-Mar-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the other two branches that are broken.


[11-Mar-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
until you get DC v Heller


[11-Mar-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Or Shelby County v Holder


[11-Mar-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
or Citizens United


[11-Mar-20 10:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/486935-trump-to-launch-catholics-for-trump-coalition-in-wisconsin-next-week

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[11-Mar-20 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Mar-20 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gaetz-slept-in-walmart-lot-after-potentially-exposing-trump-to-coronavirus-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-flu-study-coronavirus-testing-washington-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 01:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/oil-prices-saudi-aramco-moves-to-ramp-up-production-amid-russia-feud.html

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[11-Mar-20 01:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://onezero.medium.com/exclusive-live-facial-recognition-is-coming-to-u-s-police-body-cameras-bc9036918ae0


[11-Mar-20 01:57 PM] Opponent#3498
well, judging by their history they're grifters


[11-Mar-20 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
so the damage from them would be limited.


[11-Mar-20 02:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Mar-20 03:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/MidwinCharles/status/1237596427259265024

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[11-Mar-20 03:39 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So


[11-Mar-20 03:40 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why do both Nagasaki and Hiroshima recovered so fast and well but for Chernobyl it takes long as fuck


[11-Mar-20 03:40 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And for Fukushima, it will be the same recovery


[11-Mar-20 03:42 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is this because of the corrupt government Ukraine has or...


[11-Mar-20 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
heavier contamination, from what I understand. USSR tried their best to recover the area, especially the city. If the original idea of shining beacon of youth and progress didn't work out, they were going to show the world how fast they could recover.


[11-Mar-20 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
well, they couldn't.


[11-Mar-20 03:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Eh what about Japan?


[11-Mar-20 03:44 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They're so quick at turning radiated cities back to normal


[11-Mar-20 03:46 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Heck, they even make Fukushima half accessible now


[11-Mar-20 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
they're quick to say they did. Fukushima, a lot of radiation went into the ocean with the coolant someone decided to flush at some point, for example. I don't know about the WW2 stuff much.


[11-Mar-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of chernobyl is that it wasnt just a sudden on rush of radiation, it was a sudden on rush followed by several decades of continuous leaking radiation that got worse the closer you got to the site


[11-Mar-20 03:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Fair though


[11-Mar-20 03:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Chernobyl isn't an island like Japan


[11-Mar-20 03:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Probably why Fukushima is recovering so fast


[11-Mar-20 03:51 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And being the 2nd most advanced country


[11-Mar-20 03:51 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I mean... Japan in 2010's is not really comparable to Ukraine/USSR in 1980's


[11-Mar-20 03:52 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm glad Japan is decreasing Nuclear Plants


[11-Mar-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chernobyl also has puppies you cant pet now because their skin is too fragile :yamero:

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[11-Mar-20 03:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There are methods that doesn't have to be uranium


[11-Mar-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thorium


[11-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
nuclear is the future, if we want to have a world to live in, that is.


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thorium reactors are less wasteful as well


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
if they decrease nuclear, they increase coal/gas. SImple as.


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
if they decrease  both, they're buying coal-made energy somewhere else.


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree, the key is to upgrade the power plants to handle the waste product and re-use it for more power


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean if you have an earthquake prone country


[11-Mar-20 03:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You shouldn't use uranium


[11-Mar-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you also need to design the power plant to handle the area it;s in such as with earthquakes


[11-Mar-20 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they kind of did... and then stumbled upon something stupid. Like reserve generators running out of gas because for whatever reason they were designed to be used for 12h max.


[11-Mar-20 03:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can't we at least make uranium less dangerous


[11-Mar-20 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can, it;s called a thorium reactor, it takes the unranium waste and covnerts it into further power instead of leaving behind damaging carbon rods


[11-Mar-20 03:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like it's not heavy contaminant


[11-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably the most important lesson Fukushima could teach people. The designed performed well and withstood the initial attack perfectly.


[11-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
then the stupid killed it.


[11-Mar-20 03:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
At least Japan has like new plans for power plants after the 2011 earthquake


[11-Mar-20 03:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk why Ukraine never changed plans


[11-Mar-20 03:58 PM] Opponent#3498
90ies happened.


[11-Mar-20 03:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There are still power plants in that country


[11-Mar-20 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-meet-wall-street-bankers-coronavirus-spreads-stock-market-economy-2020-3-1028986022 please let thme all get infected

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[11-Mar-20 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
since then and up until 2010's any development here was happening when the stars aligned.


[11-Mar-20 04:01 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You know what astonishes me? Fukushima seems to be mostly usable in this map

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[11-Mar-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
it probably is, most of the crap went into the ocean.


[11-Mar-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clean up tech has also improved since the 80's


[11-Mar-20 04:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Opponent Like, Street View is updated as 2019


[11-Mar-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think they were also dealing with a tsunami flood at the time as well


[11-Mar-20 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that affected more than just the power plant.


[11-Mar-20 04:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Fukushima is like my favorite city


[11-Mar-20 04:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'd do anything to protect it


[11-Mar-20 04:05 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not to be a weeb, but it has some importance


[11-Mar-20 04:11 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You know what's bullshit?


[11-Mar-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
oh my god jackie stop


[11-Mar-20 04:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The media not showing the safe parts of Fukushima


[11-Mar-20 04:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
As if people think Fukushima is still so dangerous


[11-Mar-20 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they do that with africa and the middle east too, it;s a ratings thing


[11-Mar-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
drama sells.


[11-Mar-20 04:35 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Am I the only one that thinks that Fukushima can recover like Hiroshima and Nagasaki


[11-Mar-20 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you're probably the only one here who cares tbh.


[11-Mar-20 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
it _should_ recover, given that it wasn't hit all that bad but that's as far as I'd go


[11-Mar-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I think you are misinformed about the downsides of new nuclear technology


[11-Mar-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
It's true, MSRs are impossible to fuck up


[11-Mar-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't mean they produce safe waste, nor are breeder reactors economically efficient


[11-Mar-20 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it also doesn't mean that I don't support the use of nuclear power either, I think it is going to be absolutely necessary if we ever hope to achieve fossil fuel independence because we just don't have the kind of battery capacity for powering ourselves completely with solar or wind yet


[11-Mar-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
coal or gas-fired electricity has a complicated waste disposal system: a lot of CO2 is captured via CCS methods but this impairs the ability of the plant to economically produce


[11-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
whereas nuclear actually has a very robust and straightforward waste disposal system


[11-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
shoot it into space


[11-Mar-20 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually we'll just stuff it all on some moon


[11-Mar-20 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jupiter has got a ton of em


[11-Mar-20 04:57 PM] ononim#8141
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[11-Mar-20 05:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Mar-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harvey-weinstein-sentenced-today-rape-sex-assault-case-2020-03-11/

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[11-Mar-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[11-Mar-20 05:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Officially in a pandemic


[11-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chernobyl got fukked because there was no way to feasibly remove the radiation source.


[11-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Places that got bombed, the fallout disperses by wind and rain easily over months.


[11-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chernobyl, they had to build a fukking containment building around the reactor.


[11-Mar-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
this is just an inherent problem with LWR and PWR designs


[11-Mar-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
when they melt down, they explode and release radioactive shit _everywhere_


[11-Mar-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a sensible reactor design but it's just totally incapable of dealing with failure


[11-Mar-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-declares-coronavirus-pandemic-covid19-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stock-market-crash-selloff-just-beginning-jpmorgan-coronavirus-ai-analysis-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 06:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Mar-20 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Mar-20 06:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, conservatives are trying to use racism to tear apart liberals.


[11-Mar-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Mar-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Mar-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah these memes are pretty good.


[11-Mar-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
also I hope that's real @byte[]


[11-Mar-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
that would be my high point of the day


[11-Mar-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/estimates-of-coronavirus-impact-on-disney-wall-street-analysts-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a good time to be the analyst


[11-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Opponent#3498
you can pretend you're working by doing alllllllllllllllll kind of corona virus estimations


[11-Mar-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"And here on the chart, we see the coronavirus fucking disney world up the butt"


[11-Mar-20 06:16 PM] Opponent#3498
that's long and short of most of those, yeah.


[11-Mar-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's magnum virus dong is coming for mickey's big round ass and there;s nothing we can really do to stop it"

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[11-Mar-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-homeless-coronavirus-covid-19-rv-housing-quarantine-2020-3

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[11-Mar-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because just housing them permanently is communism, fuck the homeless


[11-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Don't worry guys, Disney will  simply require that all analyses do not harm or damage any Disney brands, in similar fashion as they mandated with MvC:I


[11-Mar-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MvC:I?


[11-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ, I really shouldn't be laughing at that SanFran thing but holy fuck


[11-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*THIS* is what it takes to even look at the homelessness issue


[11-Mar-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they're being housed in RVs, i';m just hoping they steal the RV and go


[11-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
@prism stryder(intexda) Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite. Disney went full business/marketing on it and didn't want Marvel characters being beaten up or losing to Capcom characters during any demonstration gameplay


[11-Mar-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[11-Mar-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the most boring marketing ever


[11-Mar-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Play marvel vs capcom, the marvel characters have permanent invincibility because disney!"


[11-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda high desperation


[11-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
and I couldn't tell why, it's not like Marvel shit isn't popular enough


[11-Mar-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if iron man dies in the video game, he dies in real life!


[11-Mar-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
f


[11-Mar-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Mar-20 06:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...why is the test 3200$


[11-Mar-20 06:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"hey guys PANDEMIC but fuck you give us money"


[11-Mar-20 06:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Why are you so STOPID https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1237174846355841024?s=21

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[11-Mar-20 06:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Stopid ass bitch


[11-Mar-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty lady say democrat bad and Trump do enough for coronavirus, she right even if wrong!


[11-Mar-20 07:12 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASp797TPXPs

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Bernie Sanders Becomes Mario in 'Super Bernie World'
Bernie Sanders Becomes Mario in 
'Super Bernie World' The free game can be found on Steam 
and is from Kitsune Games. Developer Emma Maassen says they were hoping 
to complete it before Super Tuesday on March 3. It has now been dropped before the 
next wave of primaries on Mar...
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[11-Mar-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-cut-funding-entitlements-social-security-medicare-national-debt-reelection-2020-3-1028972301

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Trump says he's willing to cut entitlements to shrink the $23 trill...
President Donald Trump said at a Fox News town-hall forum last week that he wanted to reduce funding for entitlement programs in a bid to cut th...
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[11-Mar-20 07:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/steven-mnuchin-trump-rescue-plan-travel-industry-coronavirus-impacted-defend-2020-3

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'This is not a bailout': Treasury Secretary Mnuchin defends Trump r...
"We are not looking for bailouts. But there may be specific industries that are highly impacted by travel and have issues with lending," Mnuchin said.
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[11-Mar-20 07:29 PM] jlun2#8758
hurt the boomers who voted for you :nut:


[11-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
they voted, they've served their purpose.


[11-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm sure Trump will declare himself emperor anyway, so it doesn't matter much.


[11-Mar-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
boomers voted for suicide pact


[11-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If this isn't cleared up by September I fully expect Trump to go "state of emergency, elections cancelled"


[11-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yup. Until further notice.


[11-Mar-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
how many trump supporters are there tbh


[11-Mar-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
seems limitless at times


[11-Mar-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on what state you're in


[11-Mar-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are hundreds of thousands but int he long run it really depends on where they're placed


[11-Mar-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/04VgWjA

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Well that's... Blunt
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[11-Mar-20 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/m-health-offering-curbside-coronavirus-testing/89-15f12f03-2ffa-4f81-ae7f-31992d8e35bd

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M Health offering curbside coronavirus testing
"We want to make sure we keep our patients and communities safe," said Dr. Stephen Robinson.
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[11-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 so vote blue no matter who, with a touch of smug 'I'm better than you, so listen to me' enlightment-sounding stuff.


[11-Mar-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent So Democratic Trump when


[11-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
His name's Bloomberg and he's gearing up for 2024.


[11-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Opponent#3498
^


[11-Mar-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
ty


[11-Mar-20 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
My school just canceled classes


[11-Mar-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my school has yet to do so


[11-Mar-20 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My work's made everyone they know has chronic issues work from home


[11-Mar-20 08:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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feeling sad
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[11-Mar-20 08:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently they plan to offen WFH to anyone that has jobs that can be done remotely


[11-Mar-20 08:54 PM] ononim#8141
oh, so it looks like Putin's terms will be nullified after changes in constitution and he can run two time more after the end of this term in 2024 (another twelve years so until 2036)

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[11-Mar-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a shock :caddy:

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[11-Mar-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Truly no one saw putin giving himself more free terms! No one saw this coming at all!


[11-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what if noone come to vote


[11-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause there should be some kind of persentage line,like at least X % of russians must vote to make new constitution legitimate


[11-Mar-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is russia


[11-Mar-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin is the only one making decisions


[11-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sad:


[11-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:twinoose:


[11-Mar-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cabinet members who dissent against him die mysteriously to the "common cold"


[11-Mar-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought a majority supports putin


[11-Mar-20 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
why would they dissent


[11-Mar-20 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
they're the part of the system


[11-Mar-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they wouldnt, but if they did...


[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] jlun2#8758
Youth vote is as fake as cold fusion change my mind.


[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
and yes, putin has enough fanboys to go vote, helped with docotring touch ups


[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
so voting or not voting, it doesn't matter


[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
голосуй не голосуй всё равно получишь хуй

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[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dissenters would likely be someone trying to take too much of the power pie for themselves


[11-Mar-20 09:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
и что же нам таки делать


[11-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
```what if noone come to vote
cause there should be some kind of persentage line,like at least X % of russians must vote to make new constitution legitimate```


[11-Mar-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
Don't worry, old people exists solely to vote for bad youth policies


[11-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a local meme based in reality, that some district reported 146% of votes going to Putin at some point.


[11-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
so, no.


[11-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
the percentage, if it even exists, is likely low enough that votes from the government and police forces alone would be enough for the elections to be considered valid.


[11-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article241032031.html


[11-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
they've abandoned the whole 'democratic' charade a while ago.


[11-Mar-20 09:21 PM] ononim#8141
yeah pretty sure there's not official threshold for number or percentage of votes


[11-Mar-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51763333>
holy shit the boomer army is real

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[11-Mar-20 09:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What do you mean by that?


[11-Mar-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony When I voted in Toronto, it was empty as hell, so that's a surprise to me


[11-Mar-20 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll tell you what I see when I look at this picture. I see a lot of *young* voters waiting in line to vote


[11-Mar-20 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And they can't get in


[11-Mar-20 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know why?


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
lack of booths?


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
paperwork?


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, lack of booths. Do you know why that is


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
because old white people destroyed them


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep, they cut back the number of available polling places in Texas


[11-Mar-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
even though the population was growing


[11-Mar-20 10:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[11-Mar-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so, like, they looked at places with low turnout and decided to close polling places there rather than increase turnout


[11-Mar-20 10:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because as it just so happens, if you *were* to increase turnout in those areas it'd be bad for Republicans


[11-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/8/farhad-dabirian-iran-revolutionary-guard-commander/

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Farhad Dabirian, Iran Revolutionary Guard commander, killed in Syria:
Iran's semiofficial Fars news agency identified the commander as Farhad Dabirian and said he was killed in the south Damascus suburb of Sayyida Zeinab.
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[11-Mar-20 10:18 PM] jlun2#8758
> bad for republicans
I wonder do republican parents instill their commie phobia, religion and racism to their kids successfully :ponythinking:


[11-Mar-20 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the answer is "yes, it's called TPUSA"


[11-Mar-20 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
raising your kids as a modern Republican is no different from raising them in any other religion - keep them in the bubble, teach them that the rest are wrong, make sure their lens on the world is one that sustains the bubble


[11-Mar-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
TPUSA is really targeted at boomers


[11-Mar-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
coming next fall: TPUSA KIDZ


[11-Mar-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
COVID-19 is in the Congo now.


[11-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also in basically every US state but a small cluster centered on mine.


[11-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many people here hav relatives in Seattle tho, so most likely it's here now.


[11-Mar-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure it's in yours


[11-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And nobody's gotten tested.


[11-Mar-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
And no cases have been reported because of tes-


[11-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav some people here who were on the cruise ship btw, who are now in quarantine.


[11-Mar-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Markets are gone


[11-Mar-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
down 20%


[11-Mar-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
bear market time


[11-Mar-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> keep them in the bubble, teach them that the rest are wrong, make sure their lens on the world is one that sustains the bubble
I don't try to do that yet it keeps happening to me help


[11-Mar-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/opinion/coronavirus-paid-sick-leave.html

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Opinion | ‘If We Work Sick, Then You Get Sick’
As the coronavirus spreads, the public interest demands that employers abandon their longstanding resistance to paid sick leave.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/11/opinion/11sickpaidleave_sub/11sickpaidleave_sub-facebookJumbo.jpg


[11-Mar-20 11:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Get your news from other sources - if it's world news, try to get it from somewhere other than the US, we're pretty bad at reporting on other countries; try to use neutral sources like AP whenever possible; understand what the bias is of various sources and know what sources to avoid


[11-Mar-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To that end, https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

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Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media
We are the most comprehensive media bias resource on the internet. Don’t be fooled by Fake News sources. Search Media Bias. View Fact Checks. Breaking News.
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[11-Mar-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not official, but it's good enough to weed out the crazies


[11-Mar-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, telling the difference between PolitiFact (an accredited, neutral source with an excellent track record) and PolitiFact Bias/PolitiFact News (two utterly unrelated sources whose sole purpose is to disparage PolitiFact and spread alt-right garbage)


[11-Mar-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
actually, re: the last one:
> Update: This source only displays ads and zero content.


[11-Mar-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/55f4f533f1999f0aca5be95fff616968

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Dow tumbles into bear market as coronavirus fears intensify
NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks careened lower Wednesday, with the Dow Jones industrials sinking more than 1,400 points, as investors became more fearful that the Trump administration and other global...
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[11-Mar-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
obviously it's bear market because it's COMMUNISM

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[11-Mar-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
man facepalming.jpg


[11-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
when your forehead hurts


[11-Mar-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/45fc784a948aa709cf8d0e4396167e9f

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California AG drops challenge to T-Mobile-Sprint merger
NEW YORK (AP) — California’s attorney general said Wednesday that the state will not appeal a judge’s decision approving T-Mobile's $26.5 billion purchase of Sprint, bringing the companies closer...
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[11-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
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[11-Mar-20 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
is T-Mobile owned by T-Pain


[11-Mar-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
their bills will definitely cause you t-pain

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[11-Mar-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
seriously, $80 per month on their most common plans


[11-Mar-20 11:58 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
seems like bernie is being a salty bitch that young people didnt vote for him lmao


[12-Mar-20 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's not who he's mad at


[12-Mar-20 12:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause the ones who did get to vote *did* vote for him


[12-Mar-20 12:02 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
wait hes mad at people for voting for him now ???


[12-Mar-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no he;s mad at the obstacles keeping people form  voting


[12-Mar-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the jobs keeping them from leaving, the lack of polling places, the sheer length of lines


[12-Mar-20 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Young people like Sanders, old people like Biden. It's easier for old retired people to vote


[12-Mar-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the lack of absentee ballots


[12-Mar-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the voter purges


[12-Mar-20 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's not even taking into account voter suppression measures actively designed to keep young people from making a significant impact


[12-Mar-20 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
those efforts come from various sources, most notably those in charge of running voter districts


[12-Mar-20 12:04 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I heard the ballot turn out was kind of shit this year


[12-Mar-20 12:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep, and when that happens, the elderly are over-represented


[12-Mar-20 12:05 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ugh thats true x.x


[12-Mar-20 12:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mentioned earlier the thing about Texas closing polling places in areas with low turnout to "centralize" the voting...


[12-Mar-20 12:06 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
well my in my town its always the elderly who gets the say over the young, and how did that turn out my town is a dying ghost town


[12-Mar-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...rather than trying to increase voter turnout


[12-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/health/coronavirus-school-closing-lunches-kids-eat/index.html

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The coronavirus pandemic is closing schools. How will kids eat?
Across the United States, millions of students rely on school lunches. If classes are canceled, figuring out how to provide those meals to students is a challenge, with a confusing web of federal rules governing it.
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[12-Mar-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it bears mentioning that these areas by and large had large latino and other non-white communities


[12-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sentences that shouldn't fukking exist, but 🇺🇸


[12-Mar-20 12:07 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im starting to get fearful and not fearful of the corona stuff


[12-Mar-20 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you are not at risk for pneumonia, you should still be worried - but not for risk of dying, rather the impact it'll have on daily life outside of being bedridden


[12-Mar-20 12:08 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im just worried about my trip to england in may


[12-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
>trip


[12-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
>May


[12-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
no.


[12-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point in time, essential travel only until like, August is the responsible thing to do.


[12-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, they probably will actually shut that down.


[12-Mar-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
> well my in my town its always the elderly who gets the say over the young, and how did that turn out my town is a dying ghost town
I'm just surprised those towns keep kicking on like zombies


[12-Mar-20 12:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats what its like here lmao


[12-Mar-20 12:11 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
basically zombies


[12-Mar-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
whats the population there?


[12-Mar-20 12:12 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they say its around 2,000


[12-Mar-20 12:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
but that was in 2010


[12-Mar-20 12:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I can't find the current one now


[12-Mar-20 12:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lmao


[12-Mar-20 12:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_View,_Missouri

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Mountain View, Missouri
Mountain View is a city in Howell County, Missouri, United States. The population was 2,719 at the 2010 census.
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[12-Mar-20 12:15 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@Nebbie I plan on moving there ;u;


[12-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that would be essential.


[12-Mar-20 12:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Is there any kidn of documents to bring/write out for them to let me in ?


[12-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
To the UK? They're horrid with immigration, so hav fun.


[12-Mar-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
anyone who plans to move to the UK is making a big mistake


[12-Mar-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/ikxfyo8

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With all of the talk about it, this is the damage the coronavirus Covid-19 does to human lungs.
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[12-Mar-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.2020200823


[12-Mar-20 12:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@Nebbie I have stood two hours in heathrow customs lmao


[12-Mar-20 12:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
the first time I went there they were all nice and pleasant but the second time was a drag


[12-Mar-20 12:38 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and I really love uk


[12-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/Gf4xMCF

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https://imgur.com/t/current_events/Gf4xMCF
The Earth need a quick break
https://i.imgur.com/pBWXxlHh.jpg


[12-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I wonder if this will have a noticeable effect on increasing temperatures


[12-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> Within 3 weeks of factories being shut down they eliminated the same carbon footprint that Chile produces in an entire YEAR. Break indeed.


[12-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/A0AtbMA.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/A0AtbMA.jpg


[12-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/487145-lawyers-chelsea-manning-recovering-after-suicide-attempt

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Lawyers: Chelsea Manning recovering after suicide attempt
Whistleblower Chelsea Manning, who is in federal custody in Alexandria, Va., is recovering after attempting to take her own life Wednesday, Manning’s legal team said in a statement.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/manningchelsea_051619gn3_lead.jpg


[12-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/487147-weinstein-hospitalized-with-chest-pain-after-sentencing

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Weinstein hospitalized with chest pain after sentencing
Disgraced movie producer Harvey Weinstein was hospitalized Wednesday after being sentenced to 23 years in prison on rape and criminal sex act charges.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/weinsteinharvey_02202020getty.jpg


[12-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why you don't hire assassins on Craigslist


[12-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
"What about the carbon footprint I'm reducing by not using single use disposable straws?"


[12-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
savage


[12-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>kicked out of dorms


[12-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Bar prep program sends email assuring me they aren't cancelling anything


[12-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's going to fuck so many people so badly


[12-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking hell you'd better not with how much I'm paying you


[12-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feel bad for the people taking one of the standardized tests that's required this weekend lol


[12-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is telling that shutting down schools is considered something likely to screw over young people on food and housing.


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
not using straws is to reduce plastic waste, which is only related to carbon footprint by both being human-produced pollution though


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, just maybe, food and housing should be things everyone's entitled to separately from schools.


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look only so much soft socialism will be accepted


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the straw stuff is such fucking garbage


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Free government schools and food for kids is okay


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not government housing or food for non kids


[12-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism, but only to make our kids recite the pledge and be good little white supremacists.


[12-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[12-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can they learn a version of history that downplays slavery on an empty stomach?


[12-Mar-20 01:13 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I wish people would stop freaking out about corona


[12-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A version of history where the South still having slaves is blamed on bureaucratic problems with SCOTUS.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like there was severe racism etc.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coronavirus is gonna be 10x a severe flu season.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what a severe flu season was recently?


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats it all its a flu


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: kids died from being turned away from hospitals.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
and the flu does the same with the old people and others and ugh


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
god


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not the same.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is much more severe.


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
@SweetDahlia https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

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The Extraordinary Decisions Facing Italian Doctors
There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/8GdUxfdEwc1PcRg20j6ojq3nxhk=/0x439:3494x2259/960x500/media/img/mt/2020/03/AP_20070547746072/original.jpg


[12-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what 10x is like?


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
10x is not nothing.


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
19,000 people died of flu last year


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine you fill a bathtub to where water spills over the edge


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
then you multiply that by 10


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is 10x worse


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it floods your whole bathroom and causes water damage all down the hallway


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Crow#5457
> Two weeks ago, Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient.
> 
> One week ago, Italy had 2,502 cases of the virus, which causes the disease known as COVID-19. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties.
> 
> Today, Italy has 10,149 cases of the coronavirus. There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care. Doctors and nurses are unable to tend to everybody. They lack machines to ventilate all those gasping for air.


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what's going to happen, but for hospitals.


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol im trying not to worry about it


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to be worried.


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
worry about it


[12-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to panic, but you need to be worried.


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
no cuz I have been having panic attacks half this month


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You probably won't be in serious danger.


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your grandparents may die.


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably the biggest health crisis since Spanish Flu


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
ge thanks not like I lost my grandfather a few years ago nebbie


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
18% death rate for those over 80.


[12-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you know anyone over 80, make sure not to see them for a few months.


[12-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even for those in their 50s, it's often life-threatening.


[12-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your parents could die. You need to take measures to avoid them getting infected, and avoid spreading the virus yourself.


[12-Mar-20 01:17 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I dont have the virus


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not yet.


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
what the fuck


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is estimated around a third of the US will be infected with it.


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
chill out


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I am starting to panic slightly


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now is not the time to chill out.


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
your starting to piss me off nebbie


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this thing jumps infection rates every 19 days


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
A third of the country will be infected.


[12-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Measures we take like closing schools may reduce that percent.


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
at minimum a third


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
you think I like having panic attacks worrying about this shit everyday


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
other projections say a half


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
other projections say 70%


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to familiarize yourself with the danger.


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Begin washing your hands more.


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't go out and meet people any more than necessary.


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lmao Im ocd so im good with that


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over time, you can get used to this stuff and chill out.


[12-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you have panic attacks over this sort of thing then this channel may not be the best place to be in


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
teaspoon I like talking about politics but what nebbie was saying about my family was kind of pissing me off


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are where Italy was a week and a half ago btw.


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
A week and a half from now, our healthcare system will be stressed.


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucked over Italy so fast it was recently seen eating a gyro and breaking plates


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lmao the healtcare systme is already stressed


[12-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be more stressed.


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much more stressed.


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Trump or Biden legitimately might contract it


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 2 months it is likely basically every hospital will be full.


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely full.


[12-Mar-20 01:21 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
contract what ?


[12-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
COVID-19.


[12-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is likely at that point that people who start getting seriously ill will need to go to little emergency clinics in tents.


[12-Mar-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
don't worry about the disease so much as the total infrastructure shutdown,  @SweetDahlia


[12-Mar-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the disease is unlikely to kill you


[12-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is likely to kill people's elderly family members tho. That's why I advise extreme caution with potentially spreading it.


[12-Mar-20 01:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
@byte[] Im trying so hard to be positive about all of this


[12-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The positive is that if we all do our part, less people will die and less shit will break.


[12-Mar-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I am upset that I'm getting kicked out of school with <24h notice


[12-Mar-20 01:23 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
yeah I saw that on the news


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
aobut the colleges


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
that really does suck man


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can maybe, just maybe get down to like, only 25% infected by the end of the year.


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
china is getting over it


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NJ recently said that falsely saying you have coronavirus is a crime


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
China has areas completely shut down.


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are doing what we should be.


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I still want to fucking live


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Italy too


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Italy just shut down all businesses nationwide


[12-Mar-20 01:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
not be in shut down


[12-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hope people remembered to buy enough food...


[12-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is little choice.


[12-Mar-20 01:25 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Im having a hard time as it is already trying to live , I just wish people would look on the more science side of this


[12-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supermarkets and pharmacies are kept open in Italy.


[12-Mar-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The science side is expect about 190,000 deaths


[12-Mar-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US


[12-Mar-20 01:26 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
most of that is the old and people with other stuff tho yeah ?


[12-Mar-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a lower estimate than I've seen.


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
That's lowball


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My work's forced a bunch of people to stay home due to known chronic issues


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
estimates I've seen have it at several million dead boomers


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're expecting them to do the same for everyone before end of next week


[12-Mar-20 01:27 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
worst part is I have a chronic illness rip


[12-Mar-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just kind of hoping my school shuts down for this, since i cant just waltz out of there for weeks just to avoid the virus myself or i get withdrawn from class with an F


[12-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mine completely suspended a very strict attendance policy


[12-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They'll do more.


[12-Mar-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope the same for mine


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so whats it like for amazon service right now ?


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Is it better or worse to go off of


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
amazon is still running


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it irony or coincidence that I'm taking a class about public health? I was never good with the difference.


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
coincidence


[12-Mar-20 01:36 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I thought of doing that but that was just when my grandpa was dying


[12-Mar-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though amazon may also shut down when all their workers start coming down with coronavirus


[12-Mar-20 01:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
lol


[12-Mar-20 01:37 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
so this is really like a zombie virus kinda situation


[12-Mar-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-to-give-paid-sick-leave-to-workers-amid-coronavirus-2020-3

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Amazon announces up to 2 weeks of paid sick leave for all workers a...
Amazon workers must be diagnosed with COVID-19 or quarantined to access the paid sick leave, the company said.
https://i.insider.com/5d2f3943c95d2525076cf513?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
that's not long enough


[12-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
it needs to be at least 4 weeks


[12-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
for the coronavirus anyway


[12-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Recovery can be 6 weeks


[12-Mar-20 01:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
amazon is like mcdonalds


[12-Mar-20 01:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
they dont care about workers health lol


[12-Mar-20 01:40 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
when I first got hurt before I had to quit I only had a week off lol


[12-Mar-20 01:41 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
(mcdonalds)


[12-Mar-20 01:42 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I think It was last year people were starting to call them out for how they handle the drivers


[12-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
not caring about worker's health happens at most businesses, and it's heavily encouraged as a feature of how our economic system works


[12-Mar-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
neoliberalism~


[12-Mar-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/congressmembers-told-to-avoid-large-groups-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3

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Photos show Congress is packed with visitors despite dire coronavir...
The Capitol is still open to visitors, raising questions about how Congress is supposed to protect itself from coronavirus.
https://i.insider.com/5e69506784159f2e2922b873?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Mar-20 01:44 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
my fiancé said that over in uk the truckers are encouraged to have bad behaviors while driving, no getting sleep , and no breaks you gotta get that mark


[12-Mar-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's true of american truckers as well


[12-Mar-20 01:45 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
guess they changed it up a bit


[12-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/_CoDiddy/status/1237846880706375681?s=19

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[12-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's time for Americans to


[12-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come together

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[12-Mar-20 01:46 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
thats the real tragedy of this virus


[12-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're doing 2 weeks because it's the standard quarantine.


[12-Mar-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking irony is something unexpected, especially directly opposite expected, like how milk reduces risk of kidney stones.


[12-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coincidence is just a particularly strange combinatory state, which isn't likely.


[12-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Irony is that it only rains on your wedding day after carefully choosing based on forecast. Coincidence is that you find your old toys in the attic of the family house while bumbling about looking for something for the wedding.


[12-Mar-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to school tonight to get my stuff


[12-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is the fact that the song "Ironic" doesn't have a single ironic situation in it itself ironic?


[12-Mar-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
meta irony


[12-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember the parody someone did to make it actually ironic


[12-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife...at couples therapy"


[12-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ooh, Oval Office address soon


[12-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess it's time for Teleprompter Trump


[12-Mar-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not sufficiently drunk


[12-Mar-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
For anything going on right now


[12-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/pansexual-bareback-fuckfest-cancelled-over-coronavirus-concerns/

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Dan Rice
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/pansexual-bareback-fuckfest-cancelled-over-coronavirus-concerns/
Pansexual Bareback Fuckfest Canceled Over Coronavirus Concerns
Patrons of Leatherman’s Bluff Sex Emporium were cresfallen upon learning that the clubs monthly orgy will be postponed due to coronavirus fears.
https://thehardtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/orgy.jpg

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[12-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“The buffet at Leatherman’s Fuck Zoo has become an important staple of my diet,” said pony-play enthusiast David Kershman. “I can’t afford fish at other places. This will have very serious political consequences.”


[12-Mar-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(hard times is satire)


[12-Mar-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the song is like that on purpose.


[12-Mar-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to mokk the whole saying.


[12-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it really though? Thought I heard she didn't really get it wasn't really irony


[12-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that's the case, that's amazing.


[12-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump time


[12-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no.


[12-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So far he's just congratulating himself


[12-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And dunking on the EU, amazing


[12-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even Teleprompter Trump is a cunt


[12-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Full travel ban on europe


[12-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
... except UK


[12-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally.


[12-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does he realize we can still travel there and from there to the US?


[12-Mar-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cant piss off fuck buddy johnson


[12-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He does not.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh my fukking god.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's going to giv people money.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of paid sikk leave.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't is just gonna dump money on workers who get sikk and infect their whole workplace.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just sounds like a dumber Reagan speech.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is fukking retarded.


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So instead of workers staying home


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're going to get hospitalized


[12-Mar-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
then he's going to bribe them.


[12-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Government has infinite money, can't let the businesses bear any weight


[12-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just cut taxes more!


[12-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Republicans drive up debt like mad


[12-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
while also ruining the economy


[12-Mar-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They replace necessary measures with takked-on red tape bullshit.


[12-Mar-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then complain about the red tape they put in place


[12-Mar-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie 
> Irony is that it only rains on your wedding day after carefully choosing based on forecast.
wtf does liking something "ironically" even mean, how is it related tot this, and why does it keep popping up??


[12-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw the virus is used to ban large gatherings at a federal level, then they "forget" to ease that off and use the law to break up protests and pickets

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[12-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, Biden supports the PRO Act


[12-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1237909897020207104

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Tom Hanks (@tomhanks)
https://twitter.com/tomhanks/status/1237909897020207104
https://t.co/pgybgIYJdG
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[12-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh no


[12-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Famous people getting sick suddenly Makes It Real


[12-Mar-20 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mr. Thanks is 63 years old


[12-Mar-20 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i don't think he'll die


[12-Mar-20 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope


[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/up-to-150-million-americans-are-expected-to-contract-the-coronavirus-congressional-doctor-says.html

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Up to 150 million Americans are expected to contract the coronaviru...
Monahan made the comments to Senate staff during a closed-door meeting Tuesday afternoon, according to NBC News.
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[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oof


[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god, is he 63?


[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:oof:


[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All Europe to US flights cancelled


[12-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought he was like 55 at most


[12-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Black Thursday for sure


[12-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw You've Got Mail was 25 years ago


[12-Mar-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lotsa people are older than we usually think


[12-Mar-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Madonna Effect


[12-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You remember him for You've Got Mail and not Forrest Gump or Castaway?


[12-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Big? Or Toy Story?


[12-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the one where he was a Young Man


[12-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The others ones his age shifted around or he was a "proper adult"


[12-Mar-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushners-research-is-holding-up-a-coronavirus-order-report-2020-3

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Trump's coronavirus task force is reportedly awaiting 'research' fr...
The president's son-in-law — who has no medical experience nor expertise — will reportedly make a final recommendation to Trump on a major decision.
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[12-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdO2HEtv92c
here's the full speech of tonight's address for those that hadn't seen it

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Watch live: Trump addresses the country over coronavirus response
President Trump will make a statement to the country about the response to coronavirus Wednesday evening, he announced in a meeting with bankers at the White House Wednesday afternoon. He's expected to speak at 9 p.m. ET. For live updates: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ma...
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[12-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NBA season cancelled


[12-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump rallies cancelled


[12-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
B-but Trump's team just called Biden and Sanders _cowards_ for cancelling theirs yesterday!


[12-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/XVoBQqketHM

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Saturday Night Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVoBQqketHM
SNL Digital Short: Space Olympics
In the year 3022, an alien (Andy Samberg) sings about the Space Olympics, a sporting event on a distant planet where athletes from all over the universe compete for gold medals until budget cuts result in some serious problems. [Season 34, 2008]

#SNL

Subscribe to SNL: https:...
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[12-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tokyo 2020 planning committee


[12-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
there's an anime movie called AKIRA that apparently predicted the 2020 olympics in tokyo being delayed due to a pandemic risk


[12-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/ZvaJCsD.png

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[12-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, it's a manga that was made into an anime movie


[12-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/coronavirus-tokyo-2020-olympics/

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The Coronavirus Exposes Why the Tokyo 2020 Olympics Should Be Canceled
The Tokyo Olympics were already unsafe. Now, they’re even more so.
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[12-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487162-senate-staffer-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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Senate staffer tests positive for coronavirus
A staffer in Sen. Maria Cantwell's D.C.
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[12-Mar-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1237925523843624964

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Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim)
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1237925523843624964
Hill staffer diagnosed with the coronavirus. Per Cantwell office:
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[12-Mar-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ach


[12-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1237914830356578305

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https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1237914830356578305
The NBA has suspended the season in the wake of the Coronavirus Crisis. Its official statement:
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[12-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn, China pulling their sponsors out really hit them hard 😔 😔


[12-Mar-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think there were ever people who really truly wanted Mike Bloomberg to be president


[12-Mar-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[12-Mar-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
But Mike Bloomberg didn't


[12-Mar-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have heard how it ultimately was a scam to throw as much money as possible behind his candidate of choice without campaign finance laws in the way


[12-Mar-20 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1237959080699809792

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Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 (@TulsiGabbard)
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1237959080699809792
Trump just delivered an Oval Office address on #coronavirus. I agree with much of what the president proposed, however there are two things he did not address... #Covid19 #CoronavirusPandemic #TrumpAddress https://t.co/LxfrIj1eYw
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[12-Mar-20 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
tulsi gabbard pretending she's still relevant


[12-Mar-20 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
there's a conservative trump supporter who's just going on about how hot she is in another server


[12-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
she's not that bad, especially if stuff she talks about turns you on


[12-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Opponent#3498
still aint a reason to vote for her though.


[12-Mar-20 09:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/global-asia-stock-futures-fall-after-trump-coronavirus-speech-2020-3

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Global stocks plunge after Trump announces coronavirus response pac...
Global stocks and US stock market futures dropped late Wednesday with futures for the three major US indexes falling by more than 4.5%.
https://i.insider.com/5e69966d84159f5aa23a2532?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Mar-20 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487113-gop-chairman-blocks-quick-passage-of-paid-sick-leave-bill

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GOP chairman blocks quick passage of paid sick leave bill
Sen.
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[12-Mar-20 09:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Mar-20 09:32 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if this mechanism was ever used successfully.


[12-Mar-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
'any one senator can propose but any one senator can object'


[12-Mar-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
even war-time or armageddon-tier questions are unlikely to produce unanimous consent.


[12-Mar-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
especially with how things currently are.


[12-Mar-20 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487068-trump-coronavirus-response-seen-as-threat-to-cdc-confidence

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Trump coronavirus response seen as threat to CDC confidence
The Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. is threatening to undermine public confidence in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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[12-Mar-20 12:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
On the good news, my life-long republican voting parents will be voting against Trump, almost exclusively because of Trump

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[12-Mar-20 12:29 PM] Opponent#3498
he has tainted the brand.


[12-Mar-20 12:29 PM] Opponent#3498
took coronavirus hysteria for people to realise it.


[12-Mar-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if only someone with the virus would shake hands with mcconnell


[12-Mar-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Mar-20 12:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon we may not get Bernie, but at least the boomers will be voting for Biden i guess


[12-Mar-20 12:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess we'll see who's alive by the election


[12-Mar-20 12:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if there is one


[12-Mar-20 01:09 PM] illumnious#7938
HAHA
European Union says it was not consulted on Trump's coronavirus travel ban https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-slaps-travel-restrictions-most-europe-n1156266/ncrd1156366

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European Union says it was not consulted on Trump's coronavirus tra...
European Union leaders issued a joint statement Thursday, criticizing President Donald Trump's decision to restrict travel from 26 European nations, and saying that they were not consulted beforehand.
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[12-Mar-20 01:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Absolutely not surprised


[12-Mar-20 01:10 PM] illumnious#7938
I don’t give a shit but Rump deserves every last bit.


[12-Mar-20 01:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trading had to be paused again to prevent another death spiral, like on Monday


[12-Mar-20 01:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Free market!" (unless numbers go down)


[12-Mar-20 01:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
where does that put us now


[12-Mar-20 01:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
great depression time


[12-Mar-20 01:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend

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[12-Mar-20 01:39 PM] illumnious#7938
> great depression time
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  of course, 1929 in a nutshell


[12-Mar-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
least it's not 1918 with the Spanish Flu.


[12-Mar-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
THAT killed the young ones first.


[12-Mar-20 02:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://news.yahoo.com/us-bill-forcing-women-see-194336360.html

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US bill forcing women to see baby on ultrasound before having abort...
The entire female body of the Utah Senate staged a walkout in protest of an abortion bill mandating women to be shown the foetus on an ultrasound before being allowed to have the procedure.All six female members of the Senate refused to vote on the bill and left the room, leav...
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[12-Mar-20 03:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
just


[12-Mar-20 03:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
vote against it


[12-Mar-20 03:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384069469686988801/687659991213277194/image0.jpg

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[12-Mar-20 03:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Not in Russia


[12-Mar-20 03:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
gas price only rising cause fat cats losing profits


[12-Mar-20 03:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
from exporting


[12-Mar-20 03:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 vote phobia


[12-Mar-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-congress-shutting-down-us-capitol-and-all-offices-2020-3

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Congress is shutting down the US Capitol and all offices to the pub...
Lawmakers, aides, journalists, and official visitors will continue to be granted access to the the US Capitol and office buildings.
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[12-Mar-20 04:15 PM] Midknight#9798
that won't stop them from getting it ^_^


[12-Mar-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2428wseah7m41.jpg

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[12-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/12/people-coronavirus-italy-refuse-self-isolate-face-murder-charges-12385790/

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James Hockaday
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/12/people-coronavirus-italy-refuse-self-isolate-face-murder-charges-12385790/
Coronavirus patients face murder charges if they don't self-isolate...
They could face up to 21 years behind bars.
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[12-Mar-20 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
why not just execute the sick? You people will get desperate enough for that soon anyway xD


[12-Mar-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
They already do execute the sick


[12-Mar-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
It's called poverty


[12-Mar-20 04:54 PM] Opponent#3498
well, in a more expedient fashion.


[12-Mar-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/coronavirus-trump-news-olympics-2020-cancelled-postponed-a9397806.html

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Trump says Olympics should be cancelled amid coronavirus outbreak
President Trump has said he believes the Tokyo Olympics should be postponed until 2021. More follows…
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[12-Mar-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for once, he isnt wrong...


[12-Mar-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[12-Mar-20 05:16 PM] illumnious#7938
:depressed:


[12-Mar-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not even broken clock


[12-Mar-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like a calendar with only a page remaining


[12-Mar-20 05:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~But the calendar is from several years ago~~


[12-Mar-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
decades ago


[12-Mar-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hanging off the wall of a ransacked abandoned gas station


[12-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
every fiber of my being is sore


[12-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
having to move out my dorm room at the drop of a hat at midnight is not a fun experience


[12-Mar-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_(2020)

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Black Thursday (2020)
Black Thursday is an ongoing global stock market crash on March 12, 2020.


[12-Mar-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Black Friday soon


[12-Mar-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
black week


[12-Mar-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this week on discovery channel: black week! If you;re a banker, you'll shit yourself in terror


[12-Mar-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Mar-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
they tried xD


[12-Mar-20 06:02 PM] byte[]#2610
btfo


[12-Mar-20 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Gotta get down


[12-Mar-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/kj0ghbjbl8m41.jpg

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[12-Mar-20 06:07 PM] Cloudy#3004
money is toilet paper


[12-Mar-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Mar-20 06:16 PM] Cloudy#3004
exactly


[12-Mar-20 06:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/12/trump-florida-meeting-brazil-official-now-has-coronavirus/5031802002/

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President Trump met with Brazil official at Mar-a-Lago who has now ...
Trump is seen in a picture standing next to an aide to Brazil's president on Saturday at Mar-a-Lago. The official now tested positive for coronavirus.
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[12-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/gabstargardter/status/1238118508166348800

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https://twitter.com/gabstargardter/status/1238118508166348800
The guy standing to Trump’s left just tested positive for coronavirus, according to Brazilian media. Fabio Wajngarten posted this photo, taken during meetings at Mar-a-Lago, five days ago.
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[12-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you let Brazilian nationalists run the country for a long time, they'll clear cut the Amazon.


[12-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what makes nationalism dangerous there


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Yes because the socialism junk from before cared so much about the Amazon


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd think nationalism be 'prospering nation at the cost of everything else'. 'Make the entire world mad you cut down the O2 production' seems counterproductive to that.


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
and, yeah, that too.


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think the government type is the issue.


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice bait


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Brazil shouldn't even have complete control over their own territory in this instance.


[12-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. That's the issue.


[12-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
they're deciding something like _this_ with a profit motive.


[12-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
_bad_.


[12-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
That's exactly why I avoid this channel


[12-Mar-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
problem is, there's no sane solution to it avaialble either.


[12-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Opponent#3498
and I doubt powers that be care enough to devise one.


[12-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
When people from countries that already destroyed their entire native forests feels entitled to tell the country with the largest preservation in the world they should wave their sovereignty


[12-Mar-20 06:38 PM] Opponent#3498
...also probably true.


[12-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ukraine still has forests no?


[12-Mar-20 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it does. For some reason. I've seen wonderful things like ongoing logging operations in the exclusion zone, but it's still very much illegal, at least on paper.


[12-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't actually know why we're not a barren wasteland yet.


[12-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
like, seriously.


[12-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it could be because there's no real buyers for bulk lumber in the area.


[12-Mar-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/prison-whistleblower-exposed-unsafe-conditions-arizona-facility-found/story?id=69530523

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[12-Mar-20 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and transporting it is probably more trouble than it's worth


[12-Mar-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Suicide by multiple shots to the head


[12-Mar-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
No investigation forthcoming


[12-Mar-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Fleety von Rainy' I would support this happening to the US too


[12-Mar-20 06:47 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
The issue I have with this is that we had this instance last year when Brazil and France were poking one another regarding some fires that took place in the Amazon. Macron considered the Brazilian government incompetent to administrate the preservation areas and defended international intervention however he ignores the fact French Guiana is also in a terrible decay state with a lot of destruction happening due to mining.

So who decides who's worse at it?


[12-Mar-20 06:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone wanted to clearcut redwood forests or drain the Everglades I would want the international community to come in and stop it


[12-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I just tend to consider that since every institution is flawed one way or another, might as well at least give the people who lives there the saying by respecting sovereignty. Though obviously an *Extreme* case can always justify intervention


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[12-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know shit is real when Trump is considering stopping rallies


[12-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ayy lmao, a fucking nazi


[12-Mar-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
sieg heil


[12-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
heh


[12-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
nice.


[12-Mar-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
based Germany


[12-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler was addicted to meth


[12-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I thought it was cocaine


[12-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yes but meth was the drug of choice for everyone


[12-Mar-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he was addicted to a lot of shit


[12-Mar-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he also had Parkinson's


[12-Mar-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
all his fucked up body problems might explain why nazi germany lost the war :twismug:


[12-Mar-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was no one high up in the Nazi Party that was physically capable


[12-Mar-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If the Nazis won the war it would be amazing if Hitler lived until 1950


[12-Mar-20 07:00 PM] Opponent#3498
it pays to be a dictator. You can afford all sorts of addictions :3


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yeah even if nazi germany managed to beat the Soviet Union, they'd still have a plethora of other problems to deal with


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🍆🥔


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
such as armed partisan resistance


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
internal political fracturing within the nazi party


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
and the US developing nukes


[12-Mar-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fatherland has a good depiction


[12-Mar-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where Germany won and are fighting a brutal partisan war into the 60s


[12-Mar-20 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hitler got fucked up by chemical warfare in the WW1 trenches


[12-Mar-20 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunking on him for being crippled by that is unnecessary considering all the shit he actually did himself


[12-Mar-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I imagine if they managed to fracture USSR before Normandy, US wouldn't be so willing to engage


[12-Mar-20 07:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like being Hitler


[12-Mar-20 07:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
not to mention all that racial science bullshit that would have hampered their abilities to develop a nuclear bomb until it'd be too late


[12-Mar-20 07:03 PM] Opponent#3498
they both would likely pressure UK into singing a peace treaty, and France, well, sucks to be them


[12-Mar-20 07:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
iirc they rejected the theory of relativity because it was made by a Jew, Einstein


[12-Mar-20 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nazi germany winning WW2 would likely only mean Round Three some years later


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler wanted random gimmick weapons and didn't think nukes would work


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
the scientific/engineering part of it wasn't quite that dumb. Greedy, single-mindedly sometimes, but not stupid, not to that extent


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
so I don't buy that tale.


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
that's more likely Its.


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The fucking tank schematics


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
'43 onwards, most of the development was directed by the Party.


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] Opponent#3498
that didn't go too well.


[12-Mar-20 07:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the Landkreuser Ratte tank


[12-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You thought the Maus was stupid, they wanted to build a land destroyer


[12-Mar-20 07:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which would likely be immobile in combat as it'd sink into the ground for being so thicc


[12-Mar-20 07:06 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah at least Maus got physically built as a prototype, there were things that were much worse.


[12-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of makes sense from a defensive perspective, you want armor as thick as possible, gun as big as possible, and mobility distant last


[12-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Look at this bullshit

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[12-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
but they went way too far on that.


[12-Mar-20 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
oh lawd he comin


[12-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
Jagdtiger was a variation on that same theme.


[12-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
slightly less impractical than Maus, it went into production, but the same idea. Immobile fortress.


[12-Mar-20 07:08 PM] ononim#8141
we must all emigrate to mars


[12-Mar-20 07:09 PM] ononim#8141
so the lower gravity will make Maus possible


[12-Mar-20 07:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
nazi germany's war tech schemes were some real ACME vibes stuff


[12-Mar-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
one last contingency plan they had for after losing the war would include hunkering down somewhere around the Swiss Alps and just...


[12-Mar-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
sitting there


[12-Mar-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
maybe sending out terrorists to bomb the surrounding countryside but not much else


[12-Mar-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
in practice, they'd just starve


[12-Mar-20 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
another would include fleeing to Norway around 1945, which was occupied by the nazis and kept well fortified well into surrender day


[12-Mar-20 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
effectively abandoning Germany and going on some aryan viking bullshit larp


[12-Mar-20 07:15 PM] jlun2#8758
Vikings with guns?


[12-Mar-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We call those "swedes"


[12-Mar-20 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Mar-20 07:22 PM] illumnious#7938
>Trump 2020


[12-Mar-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
MLB suspended


[12-Mar-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
NHL expected to suspend


[12-Mar-20 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Holy shit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/rich-scramble-for-private-jets-from-europe-on-trump-travel-ban?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_medium=instagram&utm_source=dash%20hudson&utm_content=www.instagram.com/p/B9okAEUnrOt/


[12-Mar-20 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
The title tho


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[12-Mar-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler really really wanted a long range America bomber


[12-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Threw so much money into it


[12-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1238012197537755136

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Hundreds of hungry monkeys swarm across Thai street as 'rival gangs' fight over food after tourists who normally feed them stay away because of coronavirus https://t.co/lQZ0sOzwDF https://t.co/8TgrCTBrQ8
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[12-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
this is what :dab: was made for.


[12-Mar-20 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
and maybe also :twismug:


[12-Mar-20 08:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Boomer


[12-Mar-20 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
bootstraps https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/economy/article-new-york-fed-says-it-will-introduce-15-trillion-in-new-repo/

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New York Fed to pump $1.5-trillion into financial system as markets...
Move seen as a sign the Fed is taking drastic steps to inject more liquidity into the U.S. banking system
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[12-Mar-20 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
NHL suspended


[12-Mar-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i give it 2 days before that money goes away


[12-Mar-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/brazilian-spokesperson-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-he-meets-with-trump-and-pence-at-mar-a-lago/

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Fabio Wajngarten, a spokesperson for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, has tested positive for COVID-19 after meeting with President Donald Trump last week. Reuters reported on Wednesday that Wajngarten was being tested for the the novel coronavirus. Brazilian media confirme...
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[12-Mar-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
> A photo quickly emerged of the official meeting with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence at Mar-a-Lago recently. It is unclear if either of the U.S. leaders plans to be tested.


[12-Mar-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
> It is unclear if either of the U.S. leaders plans to be tested.

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[12-Mar-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Dow down 10% in a day


[12-Mar-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
📉


[12-Mar-20 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1238144416147288066?s=21

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Joe Biden opposed the China travel restrictions wisely put in place by President Trump in January – restrictions that health experts credit with slowing the spread of coronavirus & saving lives.

If Biden had been in charge, more Americans would have contracted the virus fast...
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[12-Mar-20 09:16 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s uh


[12-Mar-20 09:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Something


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
they're desperate for _something_ to say.


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
number small


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
life bad


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
plague is coming


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it is the end


[12-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
but they need to WIN


[12-Mar-20 09:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[12-Mar-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
number small life bad


[12-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2020-03/08/content_75787909.htm


[12-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/03/572771/north-korea-releases-3600-quarantined-over-covid-19

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North Korea releases 3,600 quarantined over Covid-19
SEOUL: North Korea has released more than 3,600 people quarantined over the Covid-19 coronavirus, reports said on Sunday, as the disease spread to 95 countries with over 100,000 cases worldwide.
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[12-Mar-20 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[12-Mar-20 11:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
he's copin


[12-Mar-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[12-Mar-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
haha line go down weeeeeeeeeee


[12-Mar-20 11:24 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[12-Mar-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.archyde.com/mocking-us-bear-market-chinese-stock-traders-only-see-profits/

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[12-Mar-20 11:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
imagine China stepping in to provide financial relief to the United States


[12-Mar-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump would be humiliated


[12-Mar-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
which is why i think he may stall and stall until everything becomes too unbearably hellish


[12-Mar-20 11:40 PM] jlun2#8758
> Strength in Isolation
Wasn't that what Trump was trying to do with his MAGA


[12-Mar-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
yes


[12-Mar-20 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
turns out all his shenanigans are hurting the US economy


[12-Mar-20 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the crown is slipping off of America's head and into China's


[12-Mar-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
can you imagine Trump deciding to escalate tensions with China and go to war in a last ditch attempt to save the American Empire


[12-Mar-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
that would be icing on the cake


[13-Mar-20 12:00 AM] ononim#8141

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[13-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
who's that?


[13-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
record highs 😂


[13-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder what do people think, when they see the stats, and then his comments


[13-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
he's technically not wrong.


[13-Mar-20 12:23 AM] ononim#8141
@Opponent Noam Chomsky


[13-Mar-20 12:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-51865165#click=https://t.co/iNhiRMAd44

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Chelsea Manning case: Judge orders release from prison
A judge rules that it is no longer necessary for her to testify in the inquiry into Wikileaks.
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[13-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
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[13-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Opponent#3498
so the old folks really do fear Sanders.


[13-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, their turnout doubled from 2016 to 2020


[13-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-Mar-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
these are votes specifically for bernie though


[13-Mar-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
so double the 65+ voters voted for bernie in 2020 compared to 2016


[13-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
huh


[13-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
big oof


[13-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno wtf Trump was thinking announcing a surprised travel ban to _europe_ when the virus is already uncontained in the US


[13-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd've thought one of his aides would note him the effect on the economy he so cares about and another about it being pointless, but I guess since the guy ran on "American Only" and blatant xenophobia...


[13-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
I like the -9.99%


[13-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
😈


[13-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
this is being called black thursday btw


[13-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His base in mobile home parks ana alabama swamps may stick with him, but those with retirement funds stuck in the market and rich folk that only care about numbers are gonna balk


[13-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
they called black monday (2020) on monday, now it's black thursday


[13-Mar-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
wonder if it'll be black friday on friday the 13th tomorrow too


[13-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Black Friday's already taken tho


[13-Mar-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
by when on the stock market? black monday's taken by '87, and black tuesday is taken by '29


[13-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, I mean the term, for sales


[13-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
black friday apparently refers to friday the 13th too


[13-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
so it would be fitting for it to be called black friday


[13-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
which would mean an even bigger loss than today


[13-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
if it goes any lower, we'll be back at where the stock market was before trump entered office


[13-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With all the businesses in the travel, restauration, entertainment, spots, and service in general absolutely getting fucked and pulling out their credit, I'm half expecting some major bank is gonna go "Uh, we agreed to lending out more money than we actually have"


[13-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
so what you're saying is, at it's worst, it's only as 'bad' as it was before Trump


[13-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
that's...


[13-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Before all the measure's Trump took to ruin the country just to make stocks go up


[13-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So after all's said and done the country will still have been gutted and numbers will be down, grand


[13-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too Big To Fail.


[13-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republican gov't gotta prove once again it knows how to drive up the deficit faster than Dems.


[13-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then blame Dems when they come in and balance the budget, because there's still debt lying around.


[13-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lib status: owned etc.


[13-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like roommates that swap control of the main room, and you just know every time Chad is in control, he'll trash the place as best he can, because he knows you do the cleanup.


[13-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Irene Montero, Spain's minister of equality, communist, and married to the vice president, is infected, along with Santiago Abascal, leader of the far right opposition party Vox 👀


[13-Mar-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oof


[13-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Opposite sides of the chamber've had an infectee and they're both prolific social butterflies


[13-Mar-20 02:21 AM] ononim#8141
SCW 2: Biological cryptowarfare boogaloo


[13-Mar-20 02:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4Corona kills all world leaders


[13-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[13-Mar-20 03:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_stock_market_crash

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2020 stock market crash
The 2020 stock market crash refers to an ongoing global stock market crash which started in late February 2020. It saw the crashes of Black Monday and Black Thursday on 9 and 12 March, respectively. The Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500 Index and the NASDAQ-100 all fell in...
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[13-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/matt-gaetz-florida-paid-sick-leave-coronavirus/

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Gaetz Voted Against Florida Paid Sick Leave. He’s Using It in Congr...
Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz’s decision to take time away from his job at Congress without the fear of losing pay or being fired is a right few Americans share.
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[13-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oof, some people showing positive for 28 days+ with no symptoms yet


[13-Mar-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I have gotten sick with something


[13-Mar-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think it's the pandemic virus


[13-Mar-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the high season for flu and colds, so yeah, hard to tell which is which


[13-Mar-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
_opens another bottle of booze_


[13-Mar-20 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently COVID-19 doesn't lead to muscle aches, goes from dry cough and fever straight to pneumonia


[13-Mar-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
well that's fun


[13-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
H1N1 had "quiebrahuesos" symptoms, muscle ache so bad you think everything is broken; that was _bad_, but I've had pneumonia, and that was _scary_


[13-Mar-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Nikkei crashed


[13-Mar-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
-9.3%


[13-Mar-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stores were only sold out of toilet paper, nothing else


[13-Mar-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't understand why they ran on TP and not... food


[13-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess people buy premium 5-ply fragranced brands at 4 rolls a pack


[13-Mar-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
when I went back to school to get my stuff yesterday it was like a ghost town


[13-Mar-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
the lights were on, but nobody was there


[13-Mar-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being the guy that got hammered for 2 days and woke up to nobody around


[13-Mar-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm already feeling paranoid as shit, it's like the apocalypse hit everywhere


[13-Mar-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
when I drove there instead of the usual 40min of traffic the roads were almost completely clear


[13-Mar-20 05:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487243-trump-weighing-potential-emergency-declaration-for-coronavirus

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Trump weighing potential emergency declaration for coronavirus
President Trump is weighing whether to declare a national emergency over the coronavirus, which would free up additional resources to combat the rapidly spreading disease.
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[13-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Your dumbass declared a state of emergency over your stupid wall


[13-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
this should be a no brainer


[13-Mar-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes but it doesn't make him *look* good


[13-Mar-20 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(some states have already declared a state of emergency on their own)


[13-Mar-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the wall thing made him *look* good to his supporters


[13-Mar-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He ran on "the wetbacks are rushing the border and raping our children", so it works there


[13-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't work when just 6 days ago he was all "we have 11 cases and it's gonna be 0 in just a few days, the tests are perfect, everyone that wants to be tested can be tested, everything is fine, travel everywhere, #KAG!"


[13-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He should have shut the fuck up after appointing Pence


[13-Mar-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But nope, gotta be Trump


[13-Mar-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he declares a state of emergency, then it shatters the "plausible deniability" illusion he's trying to build... despite it being a crumbling mess of bricks and rebar already


[13-Mar-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/2020/3/12/1_4850159.html

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Sophie Gregoire Trudeau tests positive for COVID-19; PM begins 14-d...
Sophie Gregoire Trudeau has tested positive for COVID-19, the Prime Minister's Office confirmed. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has been self-isolating at home with his wife, currently has no symptoms, the Prime Minister’s Office said.


[13-Mar-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[13-Mar-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/donald-trump-coronavirus-testing

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Trump Now Blaming Americans for Not Getting Coronavirus Tests That ...
Apparently the blame lies not with the federal government for its woefully inadequate preparation.
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[13-Mar-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Mar-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
welp


[13-Mar-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
world was fun while it lasted


[13-Mar-20 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 2090's are gonna be radical


[13-Mar-20 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we even live that long...


[13-Mar-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna hit the shops tomorrow again; got ~50 days of canned foods, but could do with getting some spices, milk, and eggs


[13-Mar-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Work's already made everyone that can work from home do so, which includes me starting next week


[13-Mar-20 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm still awaiting a college email thAT May or may not come


[13-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Think I might buy some meats to freeze; canned beef is salty as all hell and may as well be stringy spam


[13-Mar-20 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to see what hasnt been wiped out at my grocery store


[13-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
canned beef is an insult to spam


[13-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I actually even like spam so


[13-Mar-20 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never eaten spam


[13-Mar-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should probably try that one of these days


[13-Mar-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like spam too, but they don't sell it here, not the proper stuff anyway


[13-Mar-20 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@prism stryder(intexda) Imagine soft bacon cutlets


[13-Mar-20 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's nice as something to go on the side of a soup or the like


[13-Mar-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/12/21176968/coronavirus-iran-outbreak-satellite-photos-burial-trench

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Iran’s growing coronavirus crisis you can see burial trenches from ...
The new large burial trenches are visible from space.
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[13-Mar-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the wikipedia page on spam is fascinating


[13-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-naples/italy-has-abandoned-us-brother-trapped-with-sisters-body-in-coronavirus-shutdown-idUSKBN20Z209

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'Italy has abandoned us': Brother trapped with sister's body in cor...
The brother of a woman who died at home after contracting coronavirus had to iss...
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[13-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like there's one big common pattern: Gov'ts trying to keep down the official numbers.


[13-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the spread is likely further along than what most countries are reporting.


[13-Mar-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh def


[13-Mar-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things are very calm in Germany atm


[13-Mar-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I expect empty streets in a week


[13-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over 2000 confirmed cases in Germany...


[13-Mar-20 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Is Germany taking steps to flatten the curve?


[13-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[13-Mar-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Since this week people can call doctor's offices to get sick notes instead of going into offices


[13-Mar-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And there are dedicated spaces to get testing for COVID-19 instead of doctor's offices


[13-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Government's also been upfront in stating they expect ~60% of the population to get infected by year's end


[13-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Paid sick leave is ofc a thing; as long as a doctor says you're sick, your job is safe as is your paycheque


[13-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And all medical checkups are free


[13-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some years ago it used to be you had to pay an extortionate 20 euros for visiting a doctor within a 6 month period, but they realized that just kept the poorest people from getting checked and thus getting sicker or spreading their illness, so now it's just free (well, part of taxes etc)


[13-Mar-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also for reference, health industry in Germany and Spain are very different


[13-Mar-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But both "free"


[13-Mar-20 06:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In Spain there are local government run clinics, offices, ambulatories, and hospitals, everyone works for the local state and there's public insurance. There's also private insurance/clinical services people can get on their own, almost entirely for elective or low priority matters


[13-Mar-20 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In Germany there's a variety of private insurance companies that all have to offer the same basic services and all charge the same amount off your paycheque, there's virtually no difference between them for anything mildly important; different discounts on elective procedures, mostly. Doctors offices and clinics are all private, but the cost comes from your insurer, so you can go wherever you want, but they're not fully organized by the state


[13-Mar-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So offices and clinics are fairly small and compete against eachother for quality and number of clients


[13-Mar-20 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The downside is it's more of a hassle because a clinic might have a 2 general doctors and someone specialized in cardiovascular, but you need to go elsewhere for a dermatologist


[13-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The upside is there're loads of doctor's offices and clinics spread everywhere, just random apartments instead of dedicated buildings


[13-Mar-20 06:33 AM] Treascair#7785
hey @Teaspoon re: your prepping for noms due to Covid... you don't have a vacuum sealer, do you? was one of the best investments I've ever made for buying a ton of meat in bulk, packing and freezing.  Got so efficient I was only having to shop for meat once a quarter.


[13-Mar-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No; dad keeps telling me to get one too, but my freezer is pretty small


[13-Mar-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've thought about getting a chest freezer, but I have a pretty small apartment as is


[13-Mar-20 06:38 AM] byte[]#2610
most meats are fine but some stuff is not super amenable to being frozen


[13-Mar-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
ground beef is the main one I point to; when vacuum sealed and frozen it completely changes texture from falling apart and easy to form to tightly packed and rather difficult to shape


[13-Mar-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's not much of an issue to just buy the appropriate amount on days when I'll use it


[13-Mar-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it is just ground beef


[13-Mar-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
what would be better would be to just vacuum freeze the appropriate cuts of beef and then grind them as needed


[13-Mar-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
but I don't have a grinder and those cuts are generally hard to get mass market


[13-Mar-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
vertical blender with food processor tank thingy is what I use for mince meat


[13-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just need to cut up fat first so it doesn't end in strands


[13-Mar-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
long formable strands is my desired endpoint for working with ground


[13-Mar-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
it's relatively easy to form and doesn't oxidize too fast


[13-Mar-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I only use the thing just before using for a burger or meatsauce, don't store the stuff


[13-Mar-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and helps with mixing peppers and garlic in there)


[13-Mar-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/epgkb7/if-your-aging-parents-are-ignoring-coronavirus-risks-youre-not-alone

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If Your Aging Parents Are Ignoring Coronavirus Risks, You're Not Alone
"They literally just popped some Airborne—that Vitamin C chewable thing—and said they'd be fine. I'm so legitimately worried for them both."
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[13-Mar-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Alternative title: "Boomers are ignoring coronavirus risks and their children are scared"


[13-Mar-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thankfully my dad has biowarefare training from his time in the USAF and my mom was a nurse, both taking temperature daily and have a store of N95 masks, gloves, and canned goods


[13-Mar-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Family's worry is my grandparents, extremely stubborn


[13-Mar-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and also over 90 so even a cold gets us on edge)


[13-Mar-20 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
my mom already washes her hands when she gets home because she works as an accountant and handles a lot of money, but she seems to be somehow both saying coronavirus is nothing to worry about and that the media are causing a "fake crash" by blowing it out of proportion while also saying that coronavirus was genetically engineered by the chinese for use in biological warfare


[13-Mar-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile my boomer co-worker is going on about how if this is a sign from god...


[13-Mar-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...he didn't exactly finish that thought, but tailed off into saying "sodom and gomorrah, you know, the gays and lesbians"


[13-Mar-20 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which - even ignoring how historically wrong that is, even ignoring how homophobic the remark is - if you try and follow the logic that this is punishing a particular group, the ghey isn't it


[13-Mar-20 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
however, it does seem to be corellating remarkably well to likely Trump supporters

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[13-Mar-20 07:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/new-york-gov-cuomo-bans-gatherings-of-500-or-more-amid-coronavirus-outbreak.html

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New York Gov. Cuomo bans gatherings of 500 or more amid coronavirus...
There are currently at least 328 people confirmed cases in New York, Cuomo said, adding that if the state's actual cases were "10 times that, I would not be surprised."
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[13-Mar-20 07:15 AM] byte[]#2610
> Yeah. The market isn’t a bull or a bear as they’d like us to believe. It’s one giant pussy, running for cover at the first sign of trouble.


[13-Mar-20 07:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] can completely relate; my grandpa is like that for every disease and it stresses my family a lot


[13-Mar-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-competition-france/french-watchdog-to-fine-apple-over-anti-competitive-behaviour-sources-say-idUSKBN20Z33R

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French watchdog to fine Apple over anti-competitive behaviour, sour...
France's competition watchdog is set to fine iPhone maker Apple Inc next Mo...
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[13-Mar-20 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-deaths-trump-stock-market-pandemic-economy-bankrupt-italy-a9394891.html

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Coronavirus will bankrupt more people than it kills — and that's th...
We may look back on coronavirus as the moment when the threads that hold the global economy together came unstuck
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[13-Mar-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
I linked that article in another server, a trumpanzee said it was blaming trump for everything


[13-Mar-20 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
I sometimes wonder if they actually have kindergarten-level reading comprehension, or if they're doing that on purpose


[13-Mar-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-seen-cutting-interest-rates-to-0-soon-in-bid-to-help-weather-coronavirus-storm-2020-03-12 retarded

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Fed seen cutting interest rates to 0% soon in bid to help weather c...
To help the U.S. economy get through the coronavirus pandemic without too much damage, the Federal Reserve is expected to follow its new crisis playbook that...
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[13-Mar-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
> Mechanic: "Your car really needs transmission work, but I don't know how to do that so here's a free tire rotation"


[13-Mar-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-outlook-2016-trump-win-gains-erased-coronavirus-risks-2020-3-1028991585

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The US stock market has now wiped out the entire $11.5 trillion of ...
Thursday's steep sell-off erased all remaining gains made in the stock market since President Trump's 2016 election win. The US equities market ...
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[13-Mar-20 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
ripperoni in pepperoni


[13-Mar-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Between this and boomer remover, maybe affordable housing within our lifetime?


[13-Mar-20 07:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm living in a fucking dream world, TSP


[13-Mar-20 07:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I refuse to accept any of this is real


[13-Mar-20 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
am I a crow in your dream world?


[13-Mar-20 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[13-Mar-20 07:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My backup plans once everything collapses is NGO work or murder spree in scandinavia


[13-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty much a coinflip


[13-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too old to enlist


[13-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
.p typing, pecking


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[13-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
this is how I type irl


[13-Mar-20 07:42 AM] byte[]#2610
No you're a black fox of course :>


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
blast from the past


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
or a black box


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
or a block box


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
or a ThePonyPony


[13-Mar-20 07:43 AM] Crow#5457
pony pony pony


[13-Mar-20 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
oh wow, my professor delayed online homework due dates by 4 weeks


[13-Mar-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
which makes me think that the school shutdown is confirmed


[13-Mar-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
even though he's ostensibly meant to do online lectures


[13-Mar-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
which is what he said he's gonna do


[13-Mar-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
but I'm confused why he would delay online homework so long


[13-Mar-20 07:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe needs time to prepare for changes to online only, maybe considering the same for students that need to move


[13-Mar-20 07:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gift horse, mouth, etc


[13-Mar-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
None of my due dates got delayed


[13-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```she seems to be somehow both saying coronavirus is nothing to worry about and that the media are causing a "fake crash" by blowing it out of proportion while also saying that coronavirus was genetically engineered by the chinese for use in biological warfare```
they sure did. but they were so inept doint it, so...


[13-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
damn, I read the independent article... Looks like trying to make Trump look as good as humanly possible.


[13-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not the manbearpig in charge, it's THE ENEMY, from THE EAST


[13-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
trying to establish **TRULY MULTIPOLAR WORLD**.


[13-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Opponent#3498
right...


[13-Mar-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow


[13-Mar-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
"We may look back on coronavirus as the moment when the threads that hold the global economy together came unstuck..." is the like, sub line.
It's followed by "...and startups and growing businesses like mine could end up paying the price."


[13-Mar-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh sure, the problem isn't that people can't afford healthcare, it's that this guy can't personally exploit workers, or might face what it's like to be an exploited worker.


[13-Mar-20 09:24 AM] byte[]#2610
This is why we must seize the means


[13-Mar-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
1.5T for liquidity? https://i.imgur.com/IkkL5YK.jpg

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[13-Mar-20 09:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Sorry, Chet needs more make believe money to play poker with"


[13-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So many movies and shows where Wall Street or the capitol are gonna get bombed and it's treated like some massive "WE GOTTA STOP THIS!" or whatever


[13-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And tbh plz


[13-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do it


[13-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pull the trigger


[13-Mar-20 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_1UFv1JqgK6c8DBCsChXyQtqLtQgx97tyrOpQi2isss/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/128717349229559808/687902530327543827/1584076711466.jpg

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[13-Mar-20 10:28 AM] Opponent#3498
da ting go brrrrr


[13-Mar-20 10:36 AM] Opponent#3498
lowkey hoping $ is still worth more than the paper it's printed on at the end of this.


[13-Mar-20 10:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I mentioned before, myself and the rest of Ukraine (if not the entirety of post-USSR) keep what savings we have in $


[13-Mar-20 10:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Haha u fucked


[13-Mar-20 10:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
||not really||


[13-Mar-20 10:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I feel if things do go bad, we'd have much bigger stuff to worry about than savings.


[13-Mar-20 10:46 AM] byte[]#2610
haha money printer go brrrrr


[13-Mar-20 11:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-20 01:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
NWO?


[13-Mar-20 01:36 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Who’s be Hulk Hogan’s VP? Nash?


[13-Mar-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
> lowkey hoping $ is still worth more than the paper it's printed on at the end of this.
@Opponent 

Our response to these things has been for a while to print money even faster and release it into the market by using it to buy up financial assets or something. Once upon a time it would have been more concrete assets like dams and banks and shit. Now it's using cash to at least temporarily remove liquid assets straight from the stock market.


[13-Mar-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
This was actually being talked about on my server. I should find the post but that'll take a while and I have character notes to write.


[13-Mar-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-travel-ban-ineffective-patrick-vallance-2020-3

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Patrick Vallance said on Thursday that travel bans don't work unless every country in the world acts as one.
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[13-Mar-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-13/trump-administration-blocks-states-use-medicaid-respond-coronavirus-crisis

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Trump administration blocks states from using Medicaid to respond t...
As states scramble to control the spread of coronavirus, the Trump administration is denying them key tools to use their Medicaid safety net programs to respond to the crisis.
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[13-Mar-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1238211390365671427?s=19

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https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1238211390365671427?s=19
I ordered Alex Jones to immediately stop selling & marketing products as a treatment or cure for #coronavirus on his website.
 
If he doesn't cease & desist these activities immediately, I won't hesitate to take legal action & hold him accountable for the harm he’s caused.
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[13-Mar-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
America, the land of opportunity (for grifters anyway)


[13-Mar-20 04:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Mar-20 04:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Relevant I think.
https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2011/10/18/boris-reveals-his-political-hero-the-mayor-fr

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Boris reveals his political hero: The mayor from Jaws
The political hero who most inspired Boris Johnson is not his party leader or even a figure from history.
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[13-Mar-20 04:09 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/1q5wl9/japanese_tv_rant/


[13-Mar-20 04:09 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well hello there


[13-Mar-20 04:10 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Those are some colorful words


[13-Mar-20 04:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In the Philippines we have a fair share of crappy shows


[13-Mar-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d7cb8610b50a2e79ce1a72929f23f02b

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Trump administration: $1.3M for fast virus test development
President Donald Trump's administration announced Friday it is awarding $1.3 million to two companies trying to develop rapid COVID-19 tests that could detect whether a person is positive for the...
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[13-Mar-20 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-20 04:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I :twismug: but really it's just :sad:


[13-Mar-20 05:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Le anarchy of the market time

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[13-Mar-20 05:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
The store I work at


[13-Mar-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Mar-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Snowflake


[13-Mar-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boomer doomer


[13-Mar-20 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnet.com/news/coronavirus-testing-will-be-free-for-all-americans-cdc-director-says/

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Coronavirus testing will be free for all Americans, CDC director says
The commitment comes during a back-and-forth with a member of Congress who pointed out the high costs associated with testing.
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[13-Mar-20 06:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can virtually guarantee this is a false promise.


[13-Mar-20 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
CDC director got utterly grilled on the House floor about why the FUKK anyone should pay 2 fukking grand just to find out if they're contagious.


[13-Mar-20 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bukkled under the questioning and said that it'll all be free.


[13-Mar-20 06:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure that they don't even hav the tools to make ER visits of any kind totally free.


[13-Mar-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/jared-kushner-coronavirus-research

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Report: Jared Kushner Is “Researching” the Coronavirus, Will Tell t...
The first son-in-law is pausing his work bringing peace to the Middle East to focus on the pandemic.
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[13-Mar-20 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Nina_Dattebayo/status/1238471730324258822?s=20

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ITALY: Lockdown
CHINA: Lockdown
DENMARK: Lockdown
NORWAY: Lockdown
IRELAND: Close all schools
USA: Ban all european flights

BORIS JOHNSON: " Right. We will lose love ones. Shit happens. But hey, keep calm and keep washing your hands. Good Luck" 
#coronapocalypse
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[13-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
re:Sean Tuffy, which means nothing will be done, since neither of those two had anything constructive done to them as well.


[13-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
just political speculation


[13-Mar-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Louisiana delays primary


[13-Mar-20 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/862696528003178496

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One comforting thing about the Trump White House is that you aren't forced to choose between malice and incompetence. It's always both. https://t.co/yeT4Sj9Bjt
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[13-Mar-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/902009/trump-reportedly-rejected-aggressive-coronavirus-testing-hopes-help-reelection

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[13-Mar-20 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-keep-passengers-on-grand-princess-cruise-ship-coronavirus-2020-3

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Trump said he wants to keep Grand Princess cruise passengers on the...
"He can come on board if he wants and serve us our food and bring me my towel," a Grand Princess passenger responded.
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[13-Mar-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity-uk-nhs-outbreak-pandemic-government-a9399101.html

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60% of UK population need to get coronavirus so country can build '...
'The most likely place you are going to get an infection from is a family member, a friend, someone very close in a small space, not in the big space'
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[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
LET GOD SORT THEM OUT


[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
☦️


[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I honestly expected this response from Poland xd


[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
UK and USA introduce new eugenics programs


[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
but I bet _they_ have a sane program instead.


[13-Mar-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I think poland's response has been reasonable


[13-Mar-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/487283-trump-pick-confirmed-to-federal-energy-regulatory-commission-seat

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Senate confirms Trump pick for energy commission seat
The Senate on Thursday voted to confirm James Danly as a commissioner of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).
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[13-Mar-20 07:47 PM] Midknight#9798
let me guess: he's a luddite who thinks we should go back to oil lamps and horse drawn carts?


[13-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
judging by the article, he passes a low, low bar of being a typical, 'vanilla' politician, not a rabid republican. Probably a middle-of-the-road appointment, nothing special


[13-Mar-20 07:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/aox7CeOdmOY

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Jonathan Pie
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Coronavirus: Survival of the Richest!
As Coronavirus takes over the world, Pie discusses his hygiene habits and the state of humanity.

https://www.jonathanpie.com/
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[13-Mar-20 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is likely taking bribe money from the companies who he;s supposed to be regulating, but i;m not actually sure who he is


[13-Mar-20 07:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/about-30-still-trapped-after-chinese-coronavirus-quarantine-hotel-collapses/ar-BB10SgL7?li=BBnb7Kz

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About 30 still trapped after Chinese coronavirus quarantine hotel c...
About 30 people remained trapped early on Sunday after a five-story hotel being used for coronavirus quarantine collapsed in the southeast Chinese port city of Quanzhou, state media said.


[13-Mar-20 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
him and the guy who was upset at not getting nomination, from the dem side, quite likely :D


[13-Mar-20 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also sounds like he has past problems with ethics regulations


[13-Mar-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Mar-20 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit, that's late


[13-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/frustration-mounts-over-virus-stalled-ship-in-california/2249576/

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Mandela Linder
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Cruise Ship Hit by Virus to Dock in Oakland, California
The captain of a cruise ship hit by the coronavirus told passengers it’s headed to the port of Oakland, California
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[13-Mar-20 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/688054094681735203/7h7l7wonnvi41.png

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[13-Mar-20 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie Bros did coronavirus to keep older voters away from the polls


[13-Mar-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
indeed


[13-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and that's before sanctions from a local superpower kick in.


[13-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/defense-department-linguist-charged-with-espionage.html

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Defense Department linguist in Iraq charged with espionage, shared ...
Defense Department linguist Mariam Taha Thompson allegedly began looking at secret files containing intelligence sources' names while at a facility in Iraq after U.S. airstrikes on Iran-backed forces there.
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[13-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-taiwan-china-idUSKBN20Q08M

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'Provocative' China pressures Taiwan with fighters, fake news amid ...
China is pressuring Taiwan with "provocative" air force maneuvers near...
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[13-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
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[13-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
so it looks like the US is going to have a higher infection rate than other countries


[13-Mar-20 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
That's not a surprise


[13-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/RetroRevelation/status/1238332720058527744

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Retro Revelations 🐉 (@RetroRevelation)
https://twitter.com/RetroRevelation/status/1238332720058527744
Anyone legit saying "Boomer Remover", let alone laughing at it or thinking it's clever, need to get the living fuck slapped out of them. 

People suffering and dying is not funny.
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[13-Mar-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
ok boomer remover, this one right here


[13-Mar-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
take him out


[13-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not a real boomer even


[13-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/silver_bulletb/status/1238368658902011904

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Silver Bullet Bill (@silver_bulletb)
https://twitter.com/silver_bulletb/status/1238368658902011904
It is all at once amusing, frightening, and sickening, that (I'm willing to bet) a vast majority of same, virtuous "woke" folks, who care SO much about justice and equality and empathy, laugh at old people dying. 

Shows you just how disingenuous and full of shit most of them...
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[13-Mar-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Prof sent this
> I trust that, as statistics students, you will use your statistical knowledge to help the people around you understand the facts about the virus. As far as we know, it does have a fairly low fatality rate, so you do not have much to worry about in that regard. But it doesn't mean that we should take it lightly. We have a responsibility to protect those around us so please avoid parties and crowded places. Other than that, live your life as normally as you can. I have heard that stockpiling toilet paper helps to alleviate the fear of contracting the virus.

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[13-Mar-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Empathy means you can't appreciate poetic justice guys


[13-Mar-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
I laugh at old people dying because for decades they've been killing us in extremely unsubtle ways


[13-Mar-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get over it


[13-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guarantee if this virus had its mortality rates reversed they would be doing the same shit.


[13-Mar-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh definitely


[13-Mar-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
PA public schools all closed for two weeks


[13-Mar-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.governor.pa.gov/newsroom/governor-wolf-announces-closure-of-pennsylvania-schools/

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[13-Mar-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college put out a notice but it;s not closing yet


[13-Mar-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
elementary/high schools


[13-Mar-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487473-trump-declares-national-emergency-over-coronavirus

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Trump declares national emergency over coronavirus
President Trump on Friday declared a national emergency over the coronavirus, freeing up additional resources and funding as federal, state and local governments attempt to combat the rapidly spreading disease.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldtwo_03132020getty.jpg


[13-Mar-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
he finally did what the market wanted him to do


[13-Mar-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> I guarantee if this virus had its mortality rates reversed they would be doing the same shit.
why are boomers all like this


[13-Mar-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not all like this


[13-Mar-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
they just mostly are


[13-Mar-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my parents wouldnt be like that but i have 2 teachers who probably would


[13-Mar-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and at least one of them would say it;s punishment from god


[13-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1238214044403859456

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[13-Mar-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/487495-trump-says-government-will-buy-crude-oil-to-help-industry

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Trump says government will buy crude oil to help industry
President Trump said Friday that the U.S. would purchase "large quantities" of crude oil in order to help the industry, which has been hit by sinking prices this week.
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[13-Mar-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/487478-federal-judge-sides-with-california-in-cap-and-trade-suit

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Federal judge sides with California in cap-and-trade suit
A federal judge in California dealt a blow to the Trump administration as it seeks to invalidate the state’s cap-and-trade program.
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[13-Mar-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
Disaster Trump


[13-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[13-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing leadership skills


[13-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
> I laugh at old people dying because for decades they've been killing us in extremely unsubtle ways
@byte[]  saying that out loud makes you come off as psychopathic.  Do you feel the same about your parents or grandparents possibly contracting it and dying too? due to them being boomer's too? or are they the exceptions.


[13-Mar-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I would be sad for a bit and move on with my life


[13-Mar-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Well, for my parents


[13-Mar-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
My grandparents can fuck right off


[13-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and why's that?


[13-Mar-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
They are truly the boomer stereotype


[13-Mar-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
conservative, trump voting, anti gay rights, very racist, very religious and vocal about it


[13-Mar-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
my parents are Xers, they're not at the point where they're very likely to die from the virus anyway


[13-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Crow#5457
I remember my mom got super pissed at me like 5 years ago when I said that I'd be sad for her dying, but would eventually move on


[13-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so you wish them dead for the view's they hold


[13-Mar-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
hot take: yeah, kinda


[13-Mar-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
but to be clear, being happy someone is dead is not the same as wishing they were


[13-Mar-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
the political perspective of the boomer generation has killed countless younger people


[13-Mar-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
directly through pollution, indirectly through suicides


[13-Mar-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't see why I can't be happy when they kick the bucket


[13-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
boomers seem to have this culture about dying that you can't say anything bad about the recently deceased


[13-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if it's a boomer thing only, or if it's something that's been passed down for centuries


[13-Mar-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
The problem with pissing on Thatcher's grave is that eventually you run out of piss


[13-Mar-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a great public restroom area


[13-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure it's something that came about relatively recently, Crow.


[13-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Last century or so.


[13-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
As life expectancy went up.


[13-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
With death being much rarer, especially while young, it becomes a bit more important to put taboos on it to control people.


[13-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, deaths shifted from mainly children to mainly elderly.


[13-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so instead of some baby dying, it's your grandpa who you're not allowed to speak badly of ever.


[13-Mar-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
> it's your grandpa who you're not allowed to speak badly of ever
That's a genuine problem in my family; he's clearly sick and demented, but we all have to act as if he's completely fine. This causes a lot of stress to even my parents.


[13-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
and to be clear, I don't care what people say about me when I'm dead either


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't even care if they wish me dead


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Because I'll be dead


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wish fucking granted


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
dead people don't have feelings


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now as far as wishing death upon people who go out and make sure that gays get murdered for being gay etc. etc.


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, absolutely yes.


[13-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tolerating intolerance destroys any moral standing.


[13-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the pacifist defense problem.


[13-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't stand there and not shoot while someone goes around shooting everyone you know one by one just because you dislike shooting people.


[13-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A greater evil happens if you don't shoot.


[13-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way it's the action vs. inaction problem


[13-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you responsible for an action you could've easily stopped, but which was carried out by another?


[13-Mar-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
goddamn trolley problem


[13-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you are, then you cannot be both against shooting people and refuse to shoot when it's the way to stop further shootings.


[13-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The options are to shoot one person, or to shoot many, in essence, when responsibility is carried over to those with the power to stop.


[13-Mar-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If on the other hand you say that there is no responsibility when you hav the power to stop something for it happening, then of course it's a choice between shooting a person and not, and so the correct choice is reversed.


[13-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, taking that approach leads to extreme problems very easily, it encourages people to refuse to provide assistance in general, and it is all in all extremely impractical.


[13-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, we must take the other approach.


[13-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And thus, *must* take action or approve of things happening against homophobes lest we be responsible for their behavior.


[13-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And thus no tears must be shed at the funerals of utter shitheads that endorse the lynching of gays etc.


[13-Mar-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
or utter shitheads who vote to pollute the planet, or utter shitheads who hoard wealth


[13-Mar-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
both actions which kill


[13-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, to be moral, we must drag around with us our morality. We cannot leave it at the door out of a sense of politeness.


[13-Mar-20 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/health/climate-change-health-emergency-study/index.html

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250,000 deaths a year from climate change is a 'conservative estima...
Climate change will kill many more than the additional 250,000 people the World Health Organization predicted would die every year due to climate change, according to a new report in the New England Journal of Medicine and people who work in the medical industry need to take a...
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[13-Mar-20 11:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I figure I don't have to tell you that poverty causes death


[13-Mar-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
you cannot just treat actions in isolation


[13-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It causes much more suffering than death.


[13-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
For every one that dies, many more liv impoverished, unable to deal with their deteriorating circumstances as they age.


[13-Mar-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/487518-lawmakers-call-on-irs-to-push-back-tax-filing-deadline-in-response-to

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Lawmakers call on IRS to push back tax filing deadline
Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.) and Paul Mitchell (R-Mich.) are calling on the IRS to push back its tax filing deadline in response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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[13-Mar-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkffaI-KLzs

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Oh fuck I've got a pen mark
President trump before addressing the nation on coronavirus, jesus christ.
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[14-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/trump-administration-student-loan-payments-suspension-128181

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Trump to waive interest on federal student loans 'until further not...
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[14-Mar-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I complained about the first 2 points before, and my parents just handwaved it as "they have their reasons; if they could they would've."


[14-Mar-20 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1158306

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House Democrats and White House reach deal on coronavirus aid package
The legislation, which will be voted on soon, contains provisions for free testing, paid emergency leave and more.
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[14-Mar-20 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When the government turns to socialism because of capitalism's failure


[14-Mar-20 12:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Where did that bring you? Back to me.*


[14-Mar-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Empty store shelves, schoolchildren without food needing the government to give them bread


[14-Mar-20 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tsk tsk


[14-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Paid emergency leave"


[14-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not like the phrasing involved here.


[14-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it really is just paid sikk leave, the implication is that this is something that will be removed after the virus is gone etc.


[14-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What a fukking late stage capitalism take


[14-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 weeks off work with pay? ONLY IF THERE IS AN ACTIVE PANDEMIC THAT ACTUALLY TAKES TWO WEEKS TO QUARANTINE FOR.


[14-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, it'll def. be removed


[14-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lamar blocked the proposal that it be permanent


[14-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP only wants this for this current emergency


[14-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not for future emergencies, certainly not in general


[14-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-13/trump-administration-blocks-states-use-medicaid-respond-coronavirus-crisis

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Under pressure, Trump administration opens door to mobilizing Medic...
Facing mounting pleas from California and other states, the Trump administration moved Friday to allow states to use Medicaid more freely to respond to the coronavirus crisis and expand access to medical services.
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[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
apparently they reversed course on blocking medicaid funding for use to combat the outbreak


[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man it must be chaos in the White House


[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
earlier, the same article said that the white house was blocking it


[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
staffers just shouting at Trump that if he doesn't do X thing that's anathema to Republicans, the country will die.


[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah this is really the most swingy it's ever been even for Trump's administration.


[14-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A decision could be reversed after just hours.


[14-Mar-20 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who is the face in focus in that photo and why does it look like if she stops smiling, her family will be gunned down


[14-Mar-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh it's seema verma


[14-Mar-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
her expression is understandable now


[14-Mar-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being around turmp while not being an old white rich guy/violent abusive dictator, probably feels like that constantly


[14-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just realize that all those school closures


[14-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mean tens of thousands of kids travelling across states


[14-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All at once


[14-Mar-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ban all Wojaks


[14-Mar-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/google-coronavirus-screening-site-verily-trump-2020-3

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Google tweeted a description of its coronavirus screening site hour...
Google's coronavirus screening site that President Donald Trump spoke about will only be for the Bay Area now. It will be built by Alphabet's Verily.
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[14-Mar-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/second-mar-a-lago-visitor-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-wapo-2020-3

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A second person who visited Trump's Mar-a-Lago club over the weeken...
The Washington Post reported that the second infected person went to Mar-a-Lago for a Sunday luncheon but did not have direct contact with Trump.
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[14-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4ag55g/republicans-coronavirus-emergency-legislation-abortion-restrictions

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Anti-choice lawmakers are stalling emergency legislation.
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[14-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
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[14-Mar-20 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
```The probable origin of my years-long pursuit of alternative - utopian -surrogacy is a memory from childhood I only lately realized I’ve been harboring. It is a memory that pertains to a traumatic conversation with my father. He was driving me, my mother, and my brother home from an amateur play that some friends had staged in their garden. Musing incredulously on its themes, I recall cheerfully asking from the back seat: ‘but, Dad, it’s ridiculous. If you found out that we (my brother and I) were actually the biological children of the milkman, you wouldn’t love us any less all of a sudden, would you?’ I had meant it as a rhetorical question only. But there was a stony, awkward silence that made clear to me I was not going to get the answer I needed. I felt so devastated that, for the rest of the drive, I could not speak.```


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>     Sophie Lewis - Full Surrogacy Now: Feminism against the Family


[14-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/capital-economics-coronavirus-trump-shutdowns-gdp-1492157 incredibly optimistic projection...

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[14-Mar-20 02:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie found Clinton lol https://i.redd.it/7z0rbyjjwhm41.jpg

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[14-Mar-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 03:17 AM] jlun2#8758
Pretty sure I've seen the bottom right panel, except for other controversial topics


[14-Mar-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
seems to be a key component of corporate-sponrsored feminist slacktivism


[14-Mar-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"make everything equal except the actual inequalities"


[14-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Mar-20 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
he's very much self aware


[14-Mar-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/medicare-for-all-would-save-more-than-68000-lives-and-450-billion-every-year-according-to-new-study/

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Medicare For All Would Save More Than 68,000 Lives And $450 Billion...
Epidemiologists from the Yale School of Public Health, University of Florida, and University of Maryland School of Medicine, have calculated that a single-
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[14-Mar-20 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
> Epidemiologists from the Yale School of Public Health, University of Florida, and University of Maryland School of Medicine, have calculated that a single-payer universal health-care system in the US would likely lead to a 13 percent saving in national health-care expenditure and prevent more than 68,000 unnecessary deaths. By replacing premiums, deductibles, co-payments and out-of-pocket costs with a progressive tax system, Medicare for All will not only save the average family around $2,400 a year, but also give lower-income families access to the services they need, the researchers say.


[14-Mar-20 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes but how many insurance adjusters will be out of a job? Think of the economy!


[14-Mar-20 06:34 AM] Treascair#7785
those poor, poor buggy whip manufacturers... */tiny violin*


[14-Mar-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/trump-white-house-doctor-coronavirus-test/index.html

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White House MD: Trump doesn't need to be quarantined after interact...
The White House physician said in a memo released late Friday night that President Donald Trump remains without symptoms for coronavirus and quarantine is not necessary after he came into contact with two individuals who have the virus.
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[14-Mar-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd bet good money


[14-Mar-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is just Trump learning the test needs a deep nostril swab


[14-Mar-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And *reeeeing*


[14-Mar-20 07:02 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony why aren't those even automated tbh


[14-Mar-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theonion.com/health-experts-worry-coronavirus-will-overwhelm-america-1842314132

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Health Experts Worry Coronavirus Will Overwhelm America’s GoFundMe ...
BALTIMORE—Warning that the nation was unprepared to deal with the fallout of the global pandemic, researchers from Johns Hopkins University told reporters Friday they worried that Covid-19 would overwhelm America’s GoFundMe system. “GoFundMe is the bedrock of the American heal...
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[14-Mar-20 09:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's clearly satire. People caring about the load on a public service? Heresy.


[14-Mar-20 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, it's the onion


[14-Mar-20 09:54 AM] Crow#5457
there's always multiple levels of satire going on in their articles


[14-Mar-20 11:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I see Trump got tested by the same guy who just keeps yelling how great he is health wise. Nothing to see here, guys!


[14-Mar-20 11:09 AM] Opponent#3498
well, obviously.


[14-Mar-20 11:09 AM] Opponent#3498
he's perfectly perfect, ideal specimen of humankind


[14-Mar-20 11:10 AM] Opponent#3498
and if he does suddenly expire, that's deep state conspiracy, execute all Dems for treason


[14-Mar-20 11:10 AM] Opponent#3498
too bad he alienated anyone able to carry out such an order though :twismug:


[14-Mar-20 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in fact execute mcconnell as well, it;s obvious he wanted the power for himself and betrayed trump to get it!

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[14-Mar-20 11:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
would be hilarious if, after that announcement, the Walter Reed Medical Center went on lockdown because of a COVID-19 outbreak


[14-Mar-20 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/487557-house-passes-bill-to-help-prop-up-economy-from-coronavirus

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House passes bill to help prop up economy from coronavirus
The House early Saturday morning passed legislation aimed at mitigating the economic impact of the coronavirus by providing financial assistance to people impacted by the pandemic.
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[14-Mar-20 12:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Mar-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/AgcIqAG

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Is... is Joe ok?
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[14-Mar-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound in source


[14-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
KO, boomer.


[14-Mar-20 01:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
lol


[14-Mar-20 01:32 PM] Sev3617#4685
You’re a dick lmao


[14-Mar-20 01:34 PM] illumnious#7938
House passes coronavirus aid package to strengthen social safety net https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-vote-friday-democrats-coronavirus-relief-package-n1158306

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House passes coronavirus aid package, sending bill to the Senate
The legislation contains provisions for free testing, paid emergency leave and more.
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[14-Mar-20 02:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[14-Mar-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-google-website/

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Trump Surprised Google With a Bogus Coronavirus Site Claim
Google's not making a nationwide coronavirus testing website. And the company had no idea the president would say it was.
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[14-Mar-20 02:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[14-Mar-20 02:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
You’re no longer megamind villain


[14-Mar-20 02:12 PM] Sev3617#4685
:0


[14-Mar-20 02:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/love-in-the-time-of-corona

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TrueAnon
https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/love-in-the-time-of-corona
Episode 52: Love in the Time Of Corona
Brace and Liz enter Phase II of corona-reality, react to Donald’s COVID presser and talk through what it means to step up, resist selfishness and embrace love
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[14-Mar-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/next-recession-risk-surging-due-to-coronavirus-acceleration-chun-wang-2020-3

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'Recession risk has risen dramatically': A Wall Street expert warns...
"We think there is more downside to come," said Chun Wang, a portfolio manager at The Leuthold Group.
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[14-Mar-20 02:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51804454?fbclid=IwAR01lviB0mri_XnKwUO4FTf2qWMwovzLO_woAZQjJIMeo9RbKCibCjZGsXQ

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Second patient cured of HIV, say doctors
Adam Castillejo, the "London Patient", is free of the virus more than 30 months after stopping treatment.
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[14-Mar-20 04:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/Hks6Nq7g6P4

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thejuicemedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4
Honest Government Ad | Coronavirus: Flatten The Curve
The Government has made an ad about the Coronavirus and its surprisingly honest and informative.

👉 Spread the message not the virus: #FlattenTheCurve

👉 IMPORTANT INFO & SOURCES:
🔹 All the latest facts and stats about Covid19: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
🔹 Good art...
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[14-Mar-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/economic-crisis-coronavirus-extend-basic-benefits-other-countries-already-have-2020-3

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The economic crisis from the coronavirus could lead to 'disaster so...
A flailing economy could lead to a renewed push to strengthen the social safety net in the US and grant paid sick leave, along with free medical care.
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[14-Mar-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Christ, the difference in colour between his hand and face

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[14-Mar-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[14-Mar-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
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[14-Mar-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[14-Mar-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/grotesque-level-of-greed-jeff-bezos-whole-foods-wants-workers-to-pay-colleagues-sick-leave-during-coronavirus/

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Whole Foods wants workers to help pay some colleagues’ leave during...
UPDATE: A statement from an Amazon spokesperson further clarifies this story, as well as Whole Foods’ corporate policy on paid time off during the coronavirus outbreak: This is a longstanding Whole Foods Market program from prior to the acquisition. Amazon is matching all fund...
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[14-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck


[14-Mar-20 06:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've seen a few corporate programs that are literally "chip in a few bucks for your coworkers in need!" which translates to me as "we don't wanna pay living wages, so we'll just create our own mini insurance program except we won't ever pay out unless we can make a poster child story out of it"


[14-Mar-20 06:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
my job has one


[14-Mar-20 07:13 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
man the news is getting fucking boring to watch when all they do is talk about corona now


[14-Mar-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 07:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> proper dab
We need courses on how to meme.


[14-Mar-20 07:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unironically if I had to encourage kids to cough and sneeze without being a bio-hazard it would be by encouraging them to unironically dab on me if they have to.


[14-Mar-20 07:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
slightly changed to properly pronounce land lords.

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[14-Mar-20 07:51 PM] jlun2#8758
hope someone animates it one day


[14-Mar-20 09:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Fluttershy sneezing and coughing on Filthy Rich and his family. :skreeee:

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[14-Mar-20 09:25 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[14-Mar-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
retarded fucking bot


[14-Mar-20 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Mar-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hockey is important to us okay


[14-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇨🇦 🦅


[14-Mar-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Mar-20 10:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/business/status/1238926891085684737?s=21

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Bloomberg (@business)
https://twitter.com/business/status/1238926891085684737?s=21
Booze sales rise each time President Trump speaks https://t.co/h9mvND5bZV
Likes
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[14-Mar-20 10:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Petty as fuck


[14-Mar-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2020/3/13/21178257/trump-administration-food-stamps-coronavirus-economy

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The Trump administration plans to kick 700,000 off food stamps duri...
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[14-Mar-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
non-amp link https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/3/13/21178257/trump-administration-food-stamps-coronavirus-economy

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The Trump administration plans to kick 700,000 off food stamps duri...
Although a growing number of people will lose their jobs because of a slowing economy, the government will still impose strict work requirements for SNAP.
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[14-Mar-20 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They keep making things worse


[14-Mar-20 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus


[14-Mar-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487583-trump-says-he-has-been-tested-for-coronavirus

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Trump says he has been tested for coronavirus
President Trump said Saturday that he took the test for the coronavirus the previous night and would have the results in a few days, saying he did so because of questions from the media.
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[14-Mar-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487584-trump-expands-travel-ban-to-uk-ireland-over-coronavirus-concerns

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Trump expands travel ban to UK, Ireland over coronavirus concerns
President Trump has ordered for travel to be suspended from the United Kingdom and Ireland as the United States seeks to stem the spread of the coronavirus domestically. The restrictions, which take effect Monday
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[14-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487606-biden-endorses-warren-bankruptcy-plan

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Biden endorses Warren bankruptcy plan
Joe Biden is endorsing Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) bankruptcy plan as the former vice president works to unite a Democratic Party fractured between centrists and progressives.
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[14-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HMMMMMM


[14-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't tell where this will go at all!


[14-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/technology/coronavirus-purell-wipes-amazon-sellers.html

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By Jack Nicas
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He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them
Amazon cracked down on coronavirus price gouging. Now, while the rest of the world searches, some sellers are holding stockpiles of sanitizer and masks.
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[14-Mar-20 10:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Me


[14-Mar-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can see capitalism's true colors in a pandemic.


[14-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Great to see them get shat on.


[14-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Said he's donating them now


[14-Mar-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In any actual breakdown of society these people are the first ones to die


[14-Mar-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Always beaten by the people who stockpiled guns and ammo instead


[14-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they bank on is that society stays around just enuff to maintain order as they cause poor people to die, and that the gov't is too busy with that to go after them.


[14-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll

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Worst-case coronavirus models show massive US toll
Statistical models meant to project the potential reach of the coronavirus and the COVID-19 disease suggest more than a million Americans could die if the nation does not take swift action to stop its spread as quickly as possible.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_newyork_031320getty_models_2.jpg


[14-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine how much society changes after 200k people die in America


[14-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or fuck, a million


[14-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Handshaking in movies goes away like smoking


[14-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This will push the US to reforming healthcare


[14-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just like how Columbine did with gun violence, or Katrina did with disaster preparedness


[14-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
:twismug:


[14-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Eh, that's a silver lining I'm not seeing


[14-Mar-20 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-revives-death-penalty-and-orders-5-executions-2019-7/?r=AU&IR=T

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Trump's administration has reinstated the federal death penalty aft...
Botched executions led Obama to assess capital punishment in 2014, requiring a new drug to be found before executions were to resume.
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[14-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At the end it'll be "See, we survived, it was fine, corporations and businesses pulled americans out of this!"


[14-Mar-20 11:38 PM] SweetDahlia#6164
and don't forget that god


[14-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's cruel and unusual no matter how you do it


[14-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How about not putting people in prison for stupid fucking reasons and then we have the space for life sentences


[14-Mar-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Mar-20 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Today, the president has announce a national emergency allowing the release of fifty billion dollars - a  very large amount - which is equal to five San Fransiscos of funding.


[15-Mar-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he then proceeded to plan the fuck over of the food stamp program


[15-Mar-20 12:24 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I thought he done that already with the food stamps ?


[15-Mar-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s still being fine tuned to hit as many [people as possible


[15-Mar-20 12:28 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
Its halarious that people voted for him cuz "people president" wonder how they feel now haha


[15-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the American Dream


[15-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
fail at everything, climb to the top anyway and shit all over everyone from up there.

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[15-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as you're born with daddy's millions


[15-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hereditary rule but with a grand veneer of meritocracy.


[15-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump tests negative for coronavirus


[15-Mar-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Reportedly, anyway


[15-Mar-20 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump goes on live TV and every time he looks steadily and steadily worse


[15-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah but that's been the case for 3 years


[15-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I genuinely thought he was gonna cry in the oval office address when he mentioned the stock market


[15-Mar-20 01:13 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh no https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1238964078640578560?s=21

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[15-Mar-20 01:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
trump cares more about stocks then the usa


[15-Mar-20 01:18 AM] SweetDahlia#6164
I mean stonks


[15-Mar-20 01:19 AM] illumnious#7938
Hahaha


[15-Mar-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish PM's wife tested positive


[15-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh life of a slave is not an unattractive one.


[15-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it gives you purpose, without having to find one yourself (and that's never a sure thing)


[15-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
at least I can see the appeal.


[15-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_whips Opponent until his ribs are visible_


[15-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DON'T SPILL ME WINE AGAIN, MEAT


[15-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Honahue#0656
tbf I think there's a tendacy of secular capitalism to use that lack of meaning to create constantly moving meanings which keep you a good consumer


[15-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Honahue#0656
part of what can be good about spirituality is that so long as you don't use it as a lifestyle brand it can't be coopted as a way to get you to buy dumb shit


[15-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Honahue#0656
but it can be turned into a brand which is not great


[15-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[15-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
bruh, China has corona way more under control


[15-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, but everyone knows where the "rich" live


[15-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
china has it way more under control because it's an authoritarian state, it can legally force people to do a lot more a lot faster


[15-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
democratic states would get people to do it willingly if they had strong safety nets or even just made exceptions


[15-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
which is a problem with the US mainly


[15-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
south korea has it pretty under control too, they aren't as authoritarian as China, the US just hates the idea of the government doing anything and business can't handle a decrease in consumption


[15-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
North Korea # of infected cases today
08:20 - 1
08:22 - 0
09:37 - 1
09: 41 - 0
10:13 - 1
10: 18 - 0
12:40 - 1
12:45 - 0
14:20 - 1
14:24 - 0


[15-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hehe


[15-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Reagan's dumb thing about the scariest words in the english language being "I'm from the governement and I'm here to help" has created a perfect storm of bullshit that's going to kill a lot of people in the US


[15-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Honahue#0656
mostly old and poor people


[15-Mar-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
They'll get what they voted for


[15-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I understand the "get what they deserve" but I don't think it's a good attitude


[15-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
I even accept that if corona does end up being the "boomer remover" and allows US politics to move past reagan finally that's probably great for the world


[15-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
but being callous about it is the same mentality that allows boomers to be the assholes they are often


[15-Mar-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sorta like

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[15-Mar-20 03:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything it underscores more your own failures to join or to organize. The Boomers may be large, but neither are they unified early as well as we think nor are they as large a group. A proper application of politics is to not just have an ideology that defines the problem and the vector to a solution, but also the capacity to organize among peers. Which I get it: that's the hard part (about being a socialist). But it's something that has to be done, in particular to over turn the boomer program.


[15-Mar-20 03:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because same Boomers also had at one point their own decentralized but fairly robust organization structures and those alive today I would propose have a strong sense of self from that at least, if tied to misbegotten gains and poorly directed historical policies.


[15-Mar-20 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right now my level of disappointment in humanity is too great to level it against any one group in particular


[15-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@AaronMk Idk, southern states have been dead weight since the start of the US


[15-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In one way or another


[15-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Crow#5457
only thing they contributed was food production at the beginning, and that was obviously off the backs of the slaves


[15-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
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"I don't take responsibility at all." 
 
The Trump presidency in one sentence. https://t.co/BgiAtrDtrn
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[15-Mar-20 04:15 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Mar-20 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
if you never take responsibility, it's never your fault


[15-Mar-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Mar-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
the ironic thing is that many republican voters want the policies that bernie is advocating for, they just want republicans to be the ones to implement them


[15-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's like wanting nazis to build synagogues


[15-Mar-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Pretty sure 0% of Republican voters think Congress is, or should be, in charge of writing legislation to achieve the policies presidents campaign on


[15-Mar-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if they did, they wouldn't be so scared of Bernie


[15-Mar-20 04:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow based on what Nebbie say about them , pretty sure if implemented by a Republican it would have lots of rules to exclude nonwhite men indirectly though


[15-Mar-20 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as far as I can tell, their decision-making is based on the executive being *de facto* authoritarian and greater than the other two "co-equal" branches put together, and that the only purpose those institutions serve is to get in the way of the President. Good if the president's a Dem, bad if it's GOP...unless they're *also* GOP in which case their job is to play ball


[15-Mar-20 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's real easy to slip into a mindset where fascism sounds like a good idea. It's the "if I were king for a day" kind of thinking that makes you wish you could wave a magic wand and make everything go your way. So when someone comes along promising to grant those wishes and they'll go at it gloves-off to make it happen, it sounds like a dream come true. Even though that charismatic leader *isn't* you being king for a day, and you're actually the one getting trodden to make his plans happen


[15-Mar-20 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then, when reality starts flying in the face of what he promised, who are you gonna believe? The guy who said he was gonna grant your wishes and is claiming that he *has,* or the people calling him literal hitler?


[15-Mar-20 04:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's more than gullibility. It's willful.


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[15-Mar-20 06:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://twitter.com/GovPritzker/status/1239021033191018497>


[15-Mar-20 06:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>s@#t


[15-Mar-20 06:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You're allowed to say "shit" on Twitter, sir


[15-Mar-20 07:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-has-been-tested-for-coronavirus-and-is-awaiting-results-2020-3

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Trump has tested negative for coronavirus, White House says
President Donald Trump has tested negative for the novel coronavirus, the White House announced Saturday.
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[15-Mar-20 07:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he tested positive, i see


[15-Mar-20 07:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I wonder if he we're tested positive would scientists make a cure for corona on the same day or on next one?


[15-Mar-20 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think US scientists currently have the funding for that


[15-Mar-20 07:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
canadian scientists seem to be on top of it though trump would be a last priority for them


[15-Mar-20 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-president-coronavirus-test-positive-2020-3

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Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro says he tested negative for the ...
Bolsonaro said on Twitter on Friday that he tested negative for the coronavirus. Reports had suggested that he tested positive.
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[15-Mar-20 07:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
clearly if we were all just using the test these guys are, coronavirus would be cured


[15-Mar-20 07:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause no one would be testing positive


[15-Mar-20 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/487585-pence-very-specific-information-on-google-coronavirus-tool-will-be

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Pence says 'very specific' information on Google coronavirus tool i...
Vice President Pence said Saturday that "very specific" information on the release of a new Google website aimed at combating the coronavirus will be announced Sunday at 5 p.m. EDT.
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[15-Mar-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
they're not big on reading news are they?


[15-Mar-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
or do they think Google gonna just play ball?


[15-Mar-20 10:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they ignore anything inconvenient to their narrative, if they say google is making a site, then google is making a site even if it;s imaginary and has no actual manifestation


[15-Mar-20 10:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also they;re confusing google for it's parent company alphabet, who is making a site but said site may not be operational for several months if not years


[15-Mar-20 10:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc.

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Alphabet Inc.
Alphabet Inc. is an American multinational conglomerate headquartered in Mountain View, California. It was created through a corporate restructuring of Google on October 2, 2015, and became the parent company of Google and several former Google subsidiaries. The two founders o...
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[15-Mar-20 11:50 AM] ononim#8141
https://weirdrussians.tumblr.com/post/612580132737122304/russia-is-one-of-the-few-countries-still-holding

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Weird Russians
Russia is one of the few countries still holding sporting events. Zenit St Petersburg fans sing “We’re all going to die!”
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[15-Mar-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
wanting to die is a national russian pastime

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[15-Mar-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Reverend Horton Heat refuse to cancel gigs due to coronavirus
Coronavirus: Reverend Horton Heat's Jim Heath has refused to cancel upcoming gigs due to coronavirus: "They can't stop rock and roll!"
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[15-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
ok bye


[15-Mar-20 02:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/joe-biden-elizabeth-warren-bankruptcy-plan/index.html

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Biden endorses Warren's bankruptcy plan, calling it 'one of the thi...
Former Vice President Joe Biden says he now backs Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren's bankruptcy plan, endorsing his former Democratic rival's proposal to repeal portions of a law they had clashed over 15 years earlier.
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[15-Mar-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-changing-millennial-money-spending-shopping-2020-3

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While some millennials are worried about affording coronavirus treatment and screening, others are booking cheap coronavirus flights to travel.
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[15-Mar-20 03:37 PM] ononim#8141
>white and blue in background and red shirt at the bottom


[15-Mar-20 03:37 PM] ononim#8141
Warren is a russian stooge confirmed


[15-Mar-20 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck off https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1239201055315025920?s=21

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Amazing how the Fake News never covers this. No Interest on Student Loans. The Dems are just talk! https://t.co/IexVDSYosP
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[15-Mar-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

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Trump offers 'large sums' for exclusive access to coronavirus vaccine
German government tries to fight off aggressive takeover bid by US, say reports
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[15-Mar-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Mar-20 05:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/fckeveryword/status/1239038614018887681?s=21

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fuck trump
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[15-Mar-20 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
definitely not tested positive right there 😂


[15-Mar-20 05:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck fucking fuckey you Trump https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1239205277381132290?s=21

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TODAY IS A NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER. GOD BLESS EVERYONE!
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[15-Mar-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really chargin' those JO crystals today, isn't he


[15-Mar-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
his handler from the Church called


[15-Mar-20 07:15 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Mar-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thin blue fascism disguise.


[15-Mar-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/duncan-socrates-lemp-maryland-shot-police-officer

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Maryland man fatally shot by police while asleep in his bedroom
Montgomery county police said Duncan Socrates Lemp ‘confronted’ officers as eyewitness gave ‘contrary’ account
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[15-Mar-20 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder why people keep confusing fascism with nazism


[15-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
or, confusing is the wrong word, it's deliberate.


[15-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
conflating?


[15-Mar-20 07:26 PM] byte[]#2610
US cops consistently side with the nazis


[15-Mar-20 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not talking about fascist protestors I'm talking about actual nazis waving nazi flags and using antisemitic rhetoric


[15-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>[...] the officers were wearing masks [...]


[15-Mar-20 07:27 PM] byte[]#2610
which is a thing we have in the US


[15-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Somehow I'm not surprised


[15-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
nazism is a subset of fascism


[15-Mar-20 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
> Nazism is a form of fascism and showed that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, but also incorporated fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism came from Pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist völkisch movement prominent in the German nationalism of the time, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's "cult of violence" which was "at the heart of the movement."


[15-Mar-20 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen conflicting accounts on that, and, separately, I wouldn't trust wikipedia on this one. Still... I'll need to dig into primary sources to debate this. Maybe one day.


[15-Mar-20 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
plus I don't support either, so kind of a moot point.


[15-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell is Nazism *not* Fascism? What would be the thing that Fascism needs that it lakks or that Fascism shouldn't hav that it does?


[15-Mar-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You hear the "nazism is not fascism" argument from alt-right types that claim that nazism is actually socialism


[15-Mar-20 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whether or not Italian fascism was racially or Jew inclusive does not matter at this moment in time


[15-Mar-20 08:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Well their name was national socialists


[15-Mar-20 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every single fascist is antisemitic and racist by now


[15-Mar-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And North Korea is a democracy


[15-Mar-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
right


[15-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism is an incredibly vague naming thing.


[15-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's never been properly pinned down, and originally just meant SOME form of economic change from de facto capitalism.


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before, all Nazism did that was vaguely what we'd recognize today as socialist was give people paid vacation time.


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, such a change would not be inherently Marxian


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
My understanding is that the National Socialist party was using the term because it was in vogue...and yeah, they did have some policies that looked socialist (if you were a nazi) to entice Poland before they dropped the act


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Along with of course subsuming certain industries under the state, but that's hardly unique to socialism in modern times even.


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and just vored poland


[15-Mar-20 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some nazi higher ups like Himmler wanted a sort of return to old feudal norms


[15-Mar-20 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
People liked the paid vacations but they certainly weren't building a huge welfare state or anything.


[15-Mar-20 08:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mussolini didn't even make the trains run on time


[15-Mar-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Fascism is said to be composed of 14 points which I forget at the moment, but honestly I think the 14 points are similar to the FCC's BS about YouTube "kid-directed" stuff


[15-Mar-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's actually important is the core of it is to use selective enforcement and control of authority intertwined with cultural institutions to benefit the ruling group and commit violence against certain targets which are used as scapegoats to maintain social unity.


[15-Mar-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
```Every single fascist is antisemitic and racist by now```
this is actually fair. History might not be relevant anymore.


[15-Mar-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, there's a church, you get control of it, and make sure it's in line with the gov't as it tells people that X group is responsible for society's problems.


[15-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, you send around extralegal armed thugs to go make sure X group is hurt.


[15-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The actual legal system is largely disregarded as a tool, it merely keeps up appearances with a thin facade.


[15-Mar-20 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
History is still relevant in order for us to trace back the material changes which caused, say, fascists to transform away from Mussolini's old norms into the ideological frame of today which is almost exclusively nazi


[15-Mar-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Jews are a convenient scapegoat among Europeans.


[15-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Opponent#3498
WW1. More or less, that seems the beginning and the end of it. If the world gets shattered again, better be sure all this stuff will return with vengeance.


[15-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If doing it with like, Asians, you need other scapegoats.


[15-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Usually Muslims.


[15-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, WW1 brought sweeping advances in technology, medicine, kickstarted people's rights movements etc.


[15-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
China and India both kinda like Hitler, and do anti-Muslim shit.


[15-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
People wanting rights didn't start with WW1


[15-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor did fascism's seeds.


[15-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Them getting them did.


[15-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
There has been friction over who is in control ideologically since like the 13th century.


[15-Mar-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
England had two civil wars about whether the monarchy has responsibilities to the people.


[15-Mar-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
(both ended in a resounding "yes it does", but the second one was really messy and basically involved people ignoring existing law to completely shit all over monarchism)


[15-Mar-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 19th century is an entire story about people fighting for their rights with the ruling class as well.


[15-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It started with the French Revolution and Haiti, and stuff took a long time to finish.


[15-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The WWI stuff was really just an extension of the 19th century's mess.


[15-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is nothing more than a way to establish imperialism without being just colonialism by replacing the feudal control systems with modern ones like propaganda.


[15-Mar-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
King of Spain cut off inheritance from his father and cut off his pension


[15-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently Juan Carlos was a secret partner in some saudi firm and the legal firm managing it sent a letter to the palace itself asking for an update on how to deal with inheritance issues


[15-Mar-20 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
oopsie. Still feels like an overreaction though.


[15-Mar-20 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain's pretty delicate on the issue of the royal family not benefiting from their position beyond the position itself


[15-Mar-20 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They sent one royal, husband of the current king's sister, to prison for 10 years or so 2 years ago for using his title as a door opener for private business deals


[15-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Monarchy just needs to end.


[15-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no point if they can't use their title to abuse stuff for their own benefit, that's why titles exist (and are bad).


[15-Mar-20 08:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, 19.5 years of prison, not 10


[15-Mar-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
oof.


[15-Mar-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess in practice the prison would likely transform into house arrest or something, but still.


[15-Mar-20 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, he's i minimum security and is allowed to visit family a few times a year, will probably be moved to house arrest / monitored before half the time's done


[15-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Straight from the US 40s, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyzQBKFpVc

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[15-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487684-illinois-ohio-closing-all-bars-restaurants-in-response-to-coronavirus

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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487684-illinois-ohio-closing-all-bars-restaurants-in-response-to-coronavirus
Illinois, Ohio closing all bars, restaurants in response to coronav...
Ohio and Illinois announced on Sunday they would close all restaurants and bars in response to the growing COVID-19 pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dewinemike_01232019getty.jpg


[15-Mar-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wonder if other states are gonna follow suit


[15-Mar-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Hope so


[15-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Inevitable.


[15-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487689-nashville-mayor-to-ask-for-closure-of-bars-limits-on-restaurants

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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487689-nashville-mayor-to-ask-for-closure-of-bars-limits-on-restaurants
Nashville mayor to ask for closure of bars, limits on restaurants
Nashville Mayor John Cooper (D) will ask the city’s health department to close all bars in Davidson County and curtail restaurant seating amid the coronavirus outbreak.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/statecapitolbuildings_tennessee_nashville_thinkstock.jpg


[15-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487688-biden-says-hell-adopt-plans-from-sanders-warren

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487688-biden-says-hell-adopt-plans-from-sanders-warren
Biden says he'll adopt plans from Sanders, Warren
Former Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that he was adopting plans from Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-Mass.) campaigns.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_031220upi5_lead.jpg


[15-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Please Bernie fans, like me"


[15-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Bernie plan he adopted was free public college to families who make under $125,000


[15-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Insufficient.


[15-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Free healthcare, fukker.


[15-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People ask him to talk about Hunter


[15-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I want to hold up a picture of Beau and casually ask him about his healthcare plan


[15-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again he'd probably try to deck me or something


[15-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Coranavirus press brief starts, Trump goes straight to the federal reserve and the stock markets


[15-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
sigh


[15-Mar-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
numbers middle, life meh


[15-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people can't leave their houses and 25 million people can't go to a restaurant


[15-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The economy is not going to go well


[15-Mar-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
number small obama bad


[15-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still going on about the economy, listing companies and their stock values


[15-Mar-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-lawmaker-ignores-health-warning-go-to-pub-2020-3

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GOP lawmaker ignores health warnings around coronavirus and tells A...
Other lawmakers, including Republican Ted Cruz and Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, agreed that this was not a good time to go out.
https://i.insider.com/5e6e4b3ec485405c875a46a2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
8 minutes in, he finally starts talking about the virus


[15-Mar-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/curevac-rejects-giving-us-exclusive-rights-to-coronavirus-vaccine-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/curevac-rejects-giving-us-exclusive-rights-to-coronavirus-vaccine-2020-3
Biotech company fighting coronavirus shoots down the idea of report...
The company said it has been in contact with many organizations and global authorities, but denied "rumors of an acquisition."
https://i.insider.com/5d7470c32e22af4af35f5613?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With "All this will pass, we're doing great, doing so great it's amazing, other countries aren't doing so great but we're doing great"


[15-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Aaand back to jerking off about the reserve and the stock market


[15-Mar-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look i signed this stock sheet! It has good numbers so it looks fun for me!"


[15-Mar-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is very lucky if he actually tested negative for the virus


[15-Mar-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't believe anything he says about his own test though


[15-Mar-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he even got a test


[15-Mar-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
This man can't even keep his story straight when talking about things which are publicly verifiable


[15-Mar-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
why would he tell the truth about his private life


[15-Mar-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm [perfectly healthy! Look, i can kiss the best babies, i give the best baby kissings!"


[15-Mar-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm a bigly baby kisser in this trying time! All babies deserve kisses, and since i dont have the china flu, i can bestly kiss all the goodly babies"


[15-Mar-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fed-interest-rate-cut-zero-bond-holdings-coronavirus-pandemic-economy-2020-3

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Fed slashes main interest rate to near zero in historic move design...
"The coronavirus outbreak has harmed communities and disrupted economic activity in many countries," the central bank said in a statement on Sunday.
https://i.insider.com/5e6e9a5bc48540019141f5e2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Sometimes I feel like we should be *thanking* China for this debacle :trixdisgust:


[15-Mar-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
sort of implies they had anything to do with it


[15-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, right. No implications. Don't want Tencent to pull their funding :twismug:


[15-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487695-california-governor-orders-new-restrictions-on-bars-restaurants-amid

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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487695-california-governor-orders-new-restrictions-on-bars-restaurants-amid
California governor calls for new restrictions on bars, restaurants...
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Sunday he was directing all bars, pubs and wineries in the state to close, while also calling for new restrictions on restaurants, as the country grapples with the growing COVID-19 pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsomgavin_011620getty.jpg


[15-Mar-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he still on about stock markets?


[15-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
there's nothing else on his mind so...


[15-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, he left immediately after, didn't even give Pence enough time to get to the mike


[15-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NYC closing schools for a month


[15-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[15-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't leave your house unless necessary


[15-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If your employer or school isn't from home by now they are dumb as fuck


[15-Mar-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college is apparently having a normal day tomporrow but they are on cautionary alert


[16-Mar-20 12:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our news said that UK is going to save people from being infected by the virus by watching people being infected by the virus...


[16-Mar-20 12:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe my express is inaccurate because I'm bad at English... Anyway, is that true news?


[16-Mar-20 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is their plan


[16-Mar-20 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is also true that it 100% is guaranteed to fail


[16-Mar-20 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just not in the numbers to build herd immunity - we don't even know how this disease acts long-term so we don't even know if we *can*


[16-Mar-20 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the timescale it'd take to make it happen is not in the cards


[16-Mar-20 12:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm not good at biology, but this plan sounds wired


[16-Mar-20 12:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's called the "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" approach to epidemiology


[16-Mar-20 12:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sounds like some sort of crazy scientists' experiment in disaster movies


[16-Mar-20 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Exactly. It's built on two assumptions


[16-Mar-20 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
1. Previously infected people are immune from contracting or spreading COVID-19


[16-Mar-20 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
2. The virus will not mutate significantly


[16-Mar-20 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The first remains to be seen but things don't look good for it


[16-Mar-20 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the second is already false, thanks to the US


[16-Mar-20 12:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But more importantly, the whole thing is built on a calculus of an "acceptable" number of deaths


[16-Mar-20 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It may also be a political play to stress NHS well past the breaking point and point to that as proof the system doesn't work; Johnson has been looking for a reason to dismantle national healthcare in the UK for some time now


[16-Mar-20 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> The virus will not mutate significantly
Wait, that's false?


[16-Mar-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are two known strains in the US


[16-Mar-20 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
TIL. ty


[16-Mar-20 12:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China we've already found several patients infected with mutated virus, who doesn't have fever to the end but actually are infectious.


[16-Mar-20 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're banking on the worst-case scenario being the best case, and hoping that no one runs the numbers and figures out that the vaccine that won't be ready in a year and a half will arrive sooner than the UK can build up herd immunity naturally, if it ever does within our lifetime; and in the meantime, they're making things worse for other countries who are taking sensible precautions


[16-Mar-20 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause they aren't building a race of super-immune brits, they've made a petri dish for coronavirus to run rampant in and are giving it the best shot it'll ever get at mutating wildly


[16-Mar-20 12:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No one knows the actual death rate of corona without medical treatment


[16-Mar-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the virus also hasnt been spread long enough to observe long term effects it possibly has


[16-Mar-20 12:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And, I really cannot understand the "herd immunity" things...


[16-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No gatherings of more than 50 people recommended for the next two months


[16-Mar-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the resistance to the spread of a contagious disease within a population that results if a sufficiently high proportion of individuals are immune to the disease, especially through vaccination.


[16-Mar-20 12:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like how the nonhuman animals defeat with virus


[16-Mar-20 12:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By sacrificing the weak individuals


[16-Mar-20 12:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're also not measuring it well enough to know how it's spreading


[16-Mar-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the thing is. we know so little about corvid-19 that herd immunity isnt even a prospect at this point

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[16-Mar-20 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(pssst it's covid-19)


[16-Mar-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[16-Mar-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we may even see relapse cases as this pandemic goes on


[16-Mar-20 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
COronaVIrus Disease 2019


[16-Mar-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2

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People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recov...
People who have gotten the coronavirus before could still get it again. This happened to a tour guide in Japan.
https://i.insider.com/5e3895c45bc79c3abb48e8d4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Mar-20 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we potentially already have, though it's unclear whether the people who tested positive after getting a clean bill just had a false negative


[16-Mar-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, that got answered


[16-Mar-20 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless this article has newer info than I do


[16-Mar-20 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
RIP british people


[16-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CO(R)VID is the disease Jeremy Corbyn unleashed as a result of the failure of the Labour Party in 2019


[16-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's isn't very effective


[16-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html>


[16-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Debate


[16-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No sitting


[16-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No audience either


[16-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is this BS website? WHERE IS CNN'S LIVESTREAM?


[16-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTrb2INeqF0

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[16-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
>focusing on the virus


[16-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
BERNIE TIME :glowing_eyes:


[16-Mar-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie 
> whatever bernie says
boomers be like >>1794240


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[16-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is...literally reiterating what Trump's doing.


[16-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[16-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno if Joe can keep this up for two hours


[16-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden not answering the question, can't remember basic words.


[16-Mar-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah this will likely boost Bernie's numbers


[16-Mar-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden cannot do it


[16-Mar-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whether Bernie will actually get the nomination is another matter tho


[16-Mar-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden supporters will jump through hoops and yell socialism


[16-Mar-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
POIE IN THE SKY


[16-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie's only what, 110 or so delegates off?


[16-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[16-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomer vote might be lessened in upcoming weeks


[16-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden took the bait.


[16-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to attakk the idea people deserve healthcare.


[16-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking the position that only during the crisis is care free.


[16-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's being a bit repetitive tho, he might be underprepared.


[16-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's taking the bait super hard tho.


[16-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie has always been a Greatest Hits candidate


[16-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Biden's current argument is


[16-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) only free healthcare for a crisis for the virus


[16-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
and 2) we already assured that a bill, and 3) I hav a plan that fixes that it doesn't


[16-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's keeping on the "this is a crisis, I've got a plan...why would you pay for healthcare otherwise????"


[16-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's said "This is a crisis" like 10 times.


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's a broken record.


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's talking about using troops


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
to respond to the crisis.


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And nothing else.


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not saying shit about the points Bernie is bringing up.


[16-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like he thinks soldiers are doctors.


[16-Mar-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
man, the 30 seconds I saw of the chat on the livestream have given me terminal cancer


[16-Mar-20 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie going all Ben Shapiro on Biden here


[16-Mar-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did the cnn streAM GO down for anyone else?


[16-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wasn't direct from CNN, it was being restreamed.


[16-Mar-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[16-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so is that link you've got.


[16-Mar-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah i grabbed a random stream off youtube


[16-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden just keeps reiterating that he'll giv everything and use the military...


[16-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your link no longer works, Kobold.


[16-Mar-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit


[16-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is now saying that they had to bail out the banks.


[16-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487706-montana-closes-schools-for-two-weeks

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Montana closes schools for two weeks
Montana Gov. Steve Bullock (D) announced Sunday that schools in the state would close for at least two weeks as state officials work to stop the spread of coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bullocksteve_092019gn12_lead.jpg


[16-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the automakers.


[16-Mar-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/2020-democratic-debate-live-updates/index.html

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2020 Democratic debate live updates: Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders f...
Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will face off in the first one-on-one Democratic debate of the 2020 presidential primary. Follow here for the latest.
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[16-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, Bullock is running for Senate?


[16-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden just said that saving the economy shouldn't be held up by a wealth tax.


[16-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that it would be too much.


[16-Mar-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How does Biden argue against Bernie when he said today that he's adopting some of his ideas?


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a mess, Its


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's lines are like


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"This is a crisis"


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"deploy a surge"


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"nobody will be bankrupted, that is a promise"


[16-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"We were right to bail out banks"


[16-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is essentially promising CRISIS SOCIALISM


[16-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also saying that we shouldn't giv people free healthcare after the crisis is over.


[16-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's essentially saying that he'll make sure NOBODY goes poor...until the virus is gone then fukk everyone.


[16-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's also not going into any specific.


[16-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's also resisting taxing the wealthy in any way.


[16-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Biden's plan is to bankrupt the country with temporary socialism then immediaely return to capitalism as usual.


[16-Mar-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I no longer shake hands, i just sniff hair"


[16-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>"Knock on wood"
>Knocks on head

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[16-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[16-Mar-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's his son again


[16-Mar-20 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Self-own


[16-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Biden is now saying "We need no revolution, we need urgent action now, Bernie can't pass M4A and it'd take 4 years to go into effect, I can pass this today and somehow it goes into effect immediately"


[16-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's contradictory


[16-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's also saying "He doesn't know how to pay for it!" while not saying how he'd pay for his.


[16-Mar-20 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so it's pretty clear to me that Sanders is faring better in this debate simply because he isn't self-destructing like a potato with leprosy, but


[16-Mar-20 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is there anyone, boomers included, looking at this who could think Biden's got a better chance against Trump


[16-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden finally saying something new


[16-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's talking about proposing federally funded elections.


[16-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No but back of my mind says "black vote black vote black vote"


[16-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is lying on live TV


[16-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[16-Mar-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
missed that, what was it


[16-Mar-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is twisting himself.


[16-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden was saying Bernie's ads about Biden attakking social security were wrong.


[16-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie was saying that actually Biden was on the Senate floor arguing that cuts were needed for the deficit.


[16-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden proceeded to momentarily admit it


[16-Mar-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
during a string of denials.


[16-Mar-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
so Biden lied three times, told the truth contradicting the lies, then lied three times again.


[16-Mar-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah Biden can't beat Trump in any way


[16-Mar-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh he can, lots of people will blindly vote Dem.


[16-Mar-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the current pact of the democratic party


[16-Mar-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vote blue no matter who


[16-Mar-20 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To be fair, if it does come down to that, I feel like biden is an easier problem to solve once elected, compared to how untouchable Trump has been and will be; it'd hardly be a blind vote


[16-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
So now it's a fight over education


[16-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's saying this one bill was GREAT GUYS


[16-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's like "actually you fukked over people on student debt and took until JUST NOW to support the later good bill"


[16-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's now trying to pull out details to make himself sound good.


[16-Mar-20 01:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden's trying to pull out the "lie the irresponsibility away" tactic


[16-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
To turn his waffling into a positive, that it was other people's fault's etc.


[16-Mar-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's done it with his civil rights activism credentials


[16-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the big question is


[16-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Biden can't pass good bills, as we're hearing with this


[16-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
how the fukk do we expect him to reform healthcare?


[16-Mar-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie just brought up DOMA


[16-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Go to the YouTube"


[16-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He later used it without the definite article.


[16-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the first time he was gonna say a different site name but changed his mind.


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is clearly taking his time with responses, little pauses to think.


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is running off his mind.


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's probably why Biden is so repetitive.


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden just almost agreed on M4A lol


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
by mistake


[16-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He started saying "medicare" instead of healthcare.


[16-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if this is how the rest of it goes, Biden's the nominee short of getting hospitalized by COVID-19.


[16-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's doing well, and this will absolutely swing any undecided young people.


[16-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But ultimately Bernie's only pushing on old people by pointing to Biden trying to cut social security.


[16-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not enuff.


[16-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's not utterly melting down yet.


[16-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's stumbling, but it'd take him falling to pieces to really dent his campaign.


[16-Mar-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
On every other issue, like DOMA etc., Boomers are glad Biden was a racist sexist homophobic weasel.


[16-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good news is this has put Biden on record HARD for everything short of M4A.


[16-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has been shoved into the corner by Bernie and made to agree on everything from immediate bailouts of the poor to protecting social security to actually doing some kind of healthcare reform.


[16-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This fits Bernie's MO.


[16-Mar-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How much you wanna bet Biden's gonna throw a loud tantrum at Bernie then literally collapse from a stroke on stage


[16-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie doesn't ultimately care if he's the one making changes, he wants to make sure someone does.


[16-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is weak and moldable, Bernie has got to him on almost everything.


[16-Mar-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Biden wins the nomination, he's forced to essentially rubberstamp Bernie's revolution.


[16-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, Bernie is playing XCOM while Biden is playing chess.


[16-Mar-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden thinks he's winning, but in fact he's being mindjakked.


[16-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He knows it.


[16-Mar-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like knowing you have a brain slug


[16-Mar-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is talking like judges are soldiers


[16-Mar-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just said he's definitely picking a woman as VP


[16-Mar-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
SURGE JUDGES TO THE BORDER


[16-Mar-20 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So if a biden/warren ticket is in the cards (with biden essentially beholden to Sanders), and that goes up against Trump...is that a 0% shot against the moldy orange, or is it a decent shot?


[16-Mar-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or do you think the next president will be decided mostly by which candidate is still alive in November


[16-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
biden collapsing on stage would be a huge boost for bernie, though I think it's probably too late to matter


[16-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden/Warren is like a 75% against Trump.


[16-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
they'd probably nominate biden anyway, then replace him arbitrarily in an obviously non-democratic way if he was too incapacitated to campaign for the general election


[16-Mar-20 02:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Mar-20 02:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Remained reported patients low than ten thousand now in China


[16-Mar-20 02:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
However, I don't wanna go to school...


[16-Mar-20 02:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:sad:


[16-Mar-20 02:26 AM] jlun2#8758
> lower than ten thousand

> China population: 1.386 billion (2017) ~Google
That was easy to fix.


[16-Mar-20 02:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This year 1.395 billion


[16-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Biden has commited to banning new frakking.


[16-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just not existing stuff.


[16-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much a "well we can't interrupt good businessmen once they're already polluting your water" thing.


[16-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still, this is Bernie pushing him.


[16-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would never be saying this if it was him vs. Hillary.


[16-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, what Bernie's saying is that we need to go well beyond Paris Accord commitments.


[16-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's saying that he'll follow the commitments.


[16-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, this is just the usual "Young people will vote Bernie, but Boomers don't like the idea of scientists telling us what to do, so they'll vote Biden's weaker shit"


[16-Mar-20 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, Biden dancing around the question.


[16-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is like "Well Obama with you praised Cuba's education system too..."


[16-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Biden's saying NEVER PRAISE ANY COUNTRY THAT DOES BAD STUFF


[16-Mar-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
So... Never praise the US

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[16-Mar-20 02:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
now there's a message I can get behind :P


[16-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's pointing out it's retarded.


[16-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is now saying it's okay to say nice things


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but not to praise


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever consider people supported the regime in Cuba because it taught them how to read, not that the regime taught them how to read in order to get them to support them?


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you...say a nice thing in a bakkhanded way?


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's contradicting himself in the same sentence.


[16-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like he doesn't know what "praise" means.


[16-Mar-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
C r i t i c a l  s u p p o r t


[16-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
My mom wanted me to make hamburgers tonight so I went to the store earlier and everywhere was sold out of every imaginable type of bread


[16-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
ridiculous


[16-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
so we had tacos instead


[16-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
hamberder


[16-Mar-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
covfefe


[16-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what will happen after the debate in terms of polling


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden didn't fall over dead, so he'll gain.


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden didn't drop dead, so he-


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's promising a return to normalcy in a time of crisis.


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old idiots love that.


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if every voter was like, sane


[16-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie would've won this hands-down.


[16-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Boomers don't want to hear the facts.


[16-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want to hear that someone is trustable.


[16-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want to hear that you will fix things.


[16-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to hear that you'll shut up and move on.


[16-Mar-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get rid of trump and move on with your life


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put in Dementia Joe


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
watch him unable to remember what he's saying every SOTU address.


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no further moves, just remove trump


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch him deport more immigrants


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and kill more brown kids


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll be a Bush/Cheney situation


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where Warren is the real president


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
after promising that he'll fix immigration.


[16-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren will fix the economy while Joe slaughters Mexicans with surges of Trump-appointed judges bakked with armed ICE agents.


[16-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But a black woman will be on SCOTUS


[16-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he'll say something nice at Ginsburg's funeral


[16-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
A blakk woman who believes all other brown people should be lynched.


[16-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Congress will pass some bill that doesn't allow lethal force in certain situations on the border.


[16-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'll vote to say it's unconstitutional, overreach of the Legislative.


[16-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Senate will be 50/50 after November


[16-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile Biden's FDA will outlaw the Impossible Burger based on nothing.


[16-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Warren implements a 1% extra tax on the rich that will raise panic.


[16-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Biden will ban new frakking, on federal lands only


[16-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Biden's healthcare plan will basically be ACA but you can opt in to public option, and the hospital has to shout at you that your bill will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in advance.


[16-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats will agonize for years to come about how to actually implement M4A while Biden's successors scream about how everything got totally fixed.


[16-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, there will be free college, for white people only, via some roundabout bullshit.


[16-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buttigieg will of course be in charge of housing.


[16-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
A million houses in 5 years.


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
By demolishing all blakk neighborhoods period.


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Harris as AG


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course.


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will brag that he bulldozed the hood.


[16-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the first time in decades, racial disparities will increase


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
but wealth disparities among whites will go down so white supremacists will be somewhat happy.


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who would be the Senate minority leader, still McConnell?


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah he'll be dead.


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shortly before Biden.


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy, we get two first female presidents


[16-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
President Warren will then make Nancy Pelosi VP


[16-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate Minority Leader Ted Cruz will then go on and on about how housing for the poor is bad, until he realizes that blakk people are being made homeless in record numbers.


[16-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll switch tactics to talking shit about Warren's healthcare plan.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
sound like a fun future, @Itsthinking?


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something 538 pointed out on their analysis


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's not a centrist.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a Demcentrist.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, it sounds fun.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But in a bad way.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
His positions aren't the overall median of what the public wants.


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like watching a train wreck


[16-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the median of what Democrat legislators want.


[16-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He consistently follows the exact middle of the party's politicians.


[16-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why his stances change so much.


[16-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You replace a few conservatives with liberals and Joe suddenly supports something.


[16-Mar-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a bit further left today than a week ago, but that's likely him realizing that if he truly opposed Bernie on TV he'd lose.


[16-Mar-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll spring bakk some by the time he's elected.


[16-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, as he said, he's a "capital D Democrat".


[16-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is the party line.


[16-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sad he isn't dropping dead.


[16-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what do you expect of a lifetime public servant?


[16-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You fall in line. Eventually you hope you reach the top of the federal civil service or become a politician.


[16-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020

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How Biden helped create the student debt problem he now promises to...
The former vice-president and 2020 presidential hopeful backed a 2005 bill that stripped students of bankruptcy protections and left millions in financial stress
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[16-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
"But it passed anyway, with 18 Democratic senators breaking ranks and casting their vote in favor of the bill. Of those 18, one politician stood out as an especially enthusiastic champion of the credit companies who, as it happens, had given him hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions – Joe Biden."


[16-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the times Biden broke with the party line was to absolutely smash students into debt.


[16-Mar-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what Bernie was trying to bring him to admit to.


[16-Mar-20 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He knows it was a mistake hence his endorsement of Warren's plan


[16-Mar-20 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which she started developing as a bankruptcy professor


[16-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's desperate.


[16-Mar-20 04:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking does he even need to given boomers are his main block? Do boomers care about their (adult) kids debt or nah they're over 18 time to kick them out?


[16-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason he's doing this is that he doesn't want young people to put a dent in his numbers.


[16-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers won't care either way on this one.


[16-Mar-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
I feel like he could punish young ppl even more and still wont hurt his chances


[16-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But younger people will.


[16-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially those around 30-40 who are utterly crushed by debt.


[16-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden knows if he gets the rich suburbanite white and the black vote he wins.


[16-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just doesn't want it to look bad winning with hardly anyone under 50 voting for him.


[16-Mar-20 05:09 AM] jlun2#8758
> doesn't want to look bad
pretty sure that's just code for "young people complaining about it on social media" nowadays sometimes


[16-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twitter right now has "lyingbiden" trending so.


[16-Mar-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden doesn't want his section in the history books being about how he's a fukking weasel alongside his good policies.


[16-Mar-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
wall street futures down 5%


[16-Mar-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
fed cut interest rate to 0 and is doing $700B QE


[16-Mar-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
where are we, again?


[16-Mar-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
In territory where Boomers think the virus isn't a problem despite that it will decimate them in the literal sense if not worse.


[16-Mar-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And their hero, Biden, is saying soldiers are the only way to deal with it.


[16-Mar-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Feels like 2008 all over again


[16-Mar-20 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/federal-reserve-cuts-rates-to-zero-and-launches-massive-700-billion-quantitative-easing-program.html

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Federal Reserve cuts rates to zero and launches massive $700 billio...
"The coronavirus outbreak has harmed communities and disrupted economic activity in many countries," the Fed said.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106292876-1576160131554rts2ujd4.jpg?v=1580238238


[16-Mar-20 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
2008 but this time basically every creditor agency will collapse


[16-Mar-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
not just housing


[16-Mar-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie predictions for the next month?


[16-Mar-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're a week from hospitals being in emergency mode.


[16-Mar-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a month there will be major roadways with no vehicles.


[16-Mar-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point with how infectious this really seems, I'd expect Biden and Bernie both get it, both barely survive.


[16-Mar-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
apparently people are running the banks


[16-Mar-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The timing of that will determine how the nomination goes.


[16-Mar-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
> I work in a bank.... people are definitely panicking, coming in and taking out a majority of their funds. Had a woman in my lobby screaming because we couldn't provide her 65k in cash on the spot. All our sister branches had to impose a cash withdrawal limit due to how much was going out without any coming in so the branches themselves don't run out entirely. There have been talks about how we can prepare in the event the courier we get our money delivered from runs out of currency and cannot provide any to us to distribute.


[16-Mar-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
> Fellow banker here. I’m seeing the same thing. Tomorrow will be a shit show


[16-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, most businesses will be closed.


[16-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't will be handing out money to keep people buying food.


[16-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tax deadline will be like July


[16-Mar-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 months of mild chaos.


[16-Mar-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
By June, things'll settle down with reports of how many Boomers dead etc.


[16-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden gets hospitalized worse or well before Bernie, then there'll be a bit of a mess with Bernie likely barely topping him in delegates.


[16-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's the reverse, Biden wins.


[16-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/688970689604223043/6vkl2cgivxm41.png

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[16-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Crow#5457
bernie putting a curse on biden


[16-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Posted earlier as force choking.


[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
that hand position is more force lightning tho


[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
force choke is a fist


[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, by the end of the year, president Blue No Matter Who will be like, trying to deal with the rampant estates that grabbed up dead Boomer assets for redistribution


[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/688966729136996366/Screenshot_20200315-184532.png

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[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that's Biden, then he'll be like, redistributing it only to middle class whites.


[16-Mar-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's Bernie, he'll be raining death upon Wall Street.


[16-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if it's Warren (both others die), then probably students and moms.


[16-Mar-20 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if it's Trump, everything will be fine, he said so


[16-Mar-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Place bets on Trump dying in the next year now


[16-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is almost certainly dead within 3 years at this point.


[16-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a question of whether he goes to jail first.


[16-Mar-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if Trump will be more open to progressive medical treatment if that happens


[16-Mar-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For instance, assisted suicide


[16-Mar-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
He's too much of a pussy


[16-Mar-20 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and here I thought the joke was unsubtle


[16-Mar-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
It didn't register as a joke


[16-Mar-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Okay now I get it


[16-Mar-20 06:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/688981637253562407/1ocxljroqxm41.png

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[16-Mar-20 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://jezebel.com/trumps-spiritual-advisor-was-set-to-speak-a-conference-1842346391

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Trump's Spiritual Advisor Was Set to Speak at Conference Promising ...
You may be familiar with Paula White because she currently serves as the spiritual advisor to the president. It’s more likely that you know her as the sycophantic zealot who recently prayed for all “satanic pregnancies to miscarry,” which should be a plotline on the Chilling A...
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[16-Mar-20 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She looks less real than a realdoll


[16-Mar-20 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably has less of a soul too


[16-Mar-20 07:32 AM] jlun2#8758
> satanic pregnancies
that sounds like it was from their ERP more so than politics


[16-Mar-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/688974683667693596/image0.jpg

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[16-Mar-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
yaaaaas


[16-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.ibtimes.com/russians-hack-johns-hopkins-coronavirus-map-steal-user-information-2939424

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Russians Hack Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Map To Steal User Information
Russian cybercrooks are using the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 interactive map as a malware tool.
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[16-Mar-20 10:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Euro stock markets diving, US futures prognosticate much the same


[16-Mar-20 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[16-Mar-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
nyooooooom


[16-Mar-20 12:34 PM] byte[]#2610
brbrbrbrbr


[16-Mar-20 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
which one is the main euro stock market index?


[16-Mar-20 12:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Weeee haha line go down


[16-Mar-20 12:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks, coronavirus, now i can not only sit home out of work and school but also watch capitalism collapse in real time


[16-Mar-20 12:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I might lose my house and my money and go homeless but whatever


[16-Mar-20 12:36 PM] byte[]#2610
there's no main euro stock index


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
it's that rare time when it pays (at least temporarily) to be an irrelevant 3rd world country


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
holy crap


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
that's germany's stock index


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
our policies are sane and the economy isn't impacted all that badly (for now)


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Woah


[16-Mar-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
oof.


[16-Mar-20 12:39 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-Mar-20 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
this one's from england


[16-Mar-20 12:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Coronavirus confirmed to have spread to Philippines


[16-Mar-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-Mar-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
france


[16-Mar-20 12:44 PM] Crow#5457

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[16-Mar-20 12:44 PM] Crow#5457
italy


[16-Mar-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/traders-await-futures-open-after-fed-cuts-rates-launches-easing-program.html

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Stock futures drop — hit 'limit down' — even as Fed slashes rates; ...
The Fed launched a massive monetary stimulus campaign to curb slower economic growth amid the coronavirus outbreak.
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[16-Mar-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
> Stock market futures hit “limit down” levels of 5% lower, a move made by the CME futures exchange to reduce panic in markets. No prices can trade below that threshold, only at higher prices than that down 5% limit.


[16-Mar-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like socialism, but ok


[16-Mar-20 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yay more men in suits facepalming

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[16-Mar-20 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1239316241984049152

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https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1239316241984049152
An Italian hospital ran out of ICU valves. A local biz brought a 3D printer to the hospital, redesigned & produced the valves in a few hours. 

“At the time of writing, 10 patients are accompanied in breathing by a machine that uses a 3D printed valve.”

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[16-Mar-20 12:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1239319132266311680

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https://twitter.com/michalnaka/status/1239319132266311680
Apparently the hospitals ICU valve supplier was not happy about this & refused to supply blueprints. Insane. 

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[16-Mar-20 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
HERE COMES CAPITALISM


[16-Mar-20 12:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh lawd he comin


[16-Mar-20 12:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_pkill/status/1239404581081296898

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https://twitter.com/_pkill/status/1239404581081296898
@michalnaka Capitalism: We fix market inefficiencies!

Market: Oh look 3D printers can cut supply chain turnaround to hours instead of weeks!

Capitalism: No, not like that
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[16-Mar-20 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until you can basically pirate everything with 3D printers


[16-Mar-20 12:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
3d printed guns that fall apart after one shot but can still be assembled and used?


[16-Mar-20 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
you're forgetting about metal 3D printing


[16-Mar-20 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
those guns last a few hundred shots


[16-Mar-20 12:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh damn


[16-Mar-20 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
metal 3D printers are expensive as fuck though, last time I checked last year they were like $30k minimum


[16-Mar-20 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
You can buy a new mill and lathe for that money


[16-Mar-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
apparently there's a $5k 3D printer


[16-Mar-20 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
which can make you a gun that will last ~forever


[16-Mar-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/iro3d-starts-shipment-of-5000-metal-3d-printer-142483/

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iro3d starts shipment of $5,000 metal 3D printer - 3D Printing Indu...
72shares7200iro3d, a metal 3D printer startup based in Seattle, Washington, has started shipment of its $5,000 desktop systems. Available for U.S. pre-oders from May 2018, the company reported in June that production was “on schedule.” Now, iro3d has reportedly completed 4 ord...
https://3dprintingindustry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/DeEAcEXU8AAts-R.jpg


[16-Mar-20 12:58 PM] byte[]#2610
probably even longer than a mass produced variant


[16-Mar-20 12:58 PM] byte[]#2610
since those have drop forged components


[16-Mar-20 12:58 PM] byte[]#2610
and turned CRS is much harder


[16-Mar-20 01:00 PM] byte[]#2610
just to be clear, you can probably get your hands on a used mill and lathe for under 5k as well


[16-Mar-20 01:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.wired.com/2013/02/printable-receiver/

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Watch the New and Improved Printable Gun Spew Hundreds of Bullets
Last year, a group of 3-D printing gunsmiths developed a key component for an AR-15 rifle … that lasted six shots. Now the group is back with a version that fires more than 600 rounds.
https://media.wired.com/photos/593375d12a38e4432c4b9861/191:100/pass/Printable-AR-15-Receiver.png


[16-Mar-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the ones that last a few hundred shots are traditionally printed


[16-Mar-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
not metal


[16-Mar-20 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
> The group had to take out as many angles and points of stress inside the new receiver as possible, thicken several areas to withstand pressure from vibrations, and "let the piece act more as a spring," developer Cody Wilson e-mails Danger Room. Angles below the buffer tower – which helps absorb recoil – were also curved and strengthened. The group still had to bolster the piece with some metal parts, though. A one-eighth inch compression bushing is embedded in the back.


[16-Mar-20 01:06 PM] byte[]#2610
just turn down some bar stock


[16-Mar-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah the tech's not there _yet_


[16-Mar-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
the 3d printed metal is weaker than forged


[16-Mar-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
that said, this tech has limitless potential, you could print things that are impossible to make traditionally.


[16-Mar-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
one of the few things I'm truly interested in seing being developed.


[16-Mar-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-germany-covid-19-vaccine-not-for-sale-donald-trump-2020-3

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'Not for sale': Germany has reacted furiously to Trump's attempts t...
Trump's administration reportedly offered German scientists a billion dollars for rights to a coronavirus vaccine that would be "only for the USA."
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[16-Mar-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-google-statement-coronavirus-website-press-conference-2020-3

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Trump flicked a Google statement onto the floor during a live press...
"I'm sure you'll apologize," Trump said to reporters, as he threw Google's statement onto the floor.
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[16-Mar-20 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "I want to thank the people at Google and Google Communications, because as you know, they substantiated what I said on Friday," Trump said of the remarks he made in the Rose Garden just two days prior.
> 
> "The head of Google ... called us and he apologized, I don't know where the press got their fake news, but they got it some place," Trump added.


[16-Mar-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda bold, even for him


[16-Mar-20 01:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's a buffoon


[16-Mar-20 01:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He only knows how to double down


[16-Mar-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn/trump-considering-full-pardon-for-ex-adviser-michael-flynn-idUSKBN212121

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Trump considering full pardon for ex-adviser Michael Flynn
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday he is considering a full pardon for h...
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200315&t=2&i=1503613915&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG2E0RR


[16-Mar-20 01:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Who wants to bet on time to circuit breaker trip


[16-Mar-20 01:39 PM] byte[]#2610
I put it at a minute after open


[16-Mar-20 01:45 PM] Crow#5457
all this circuit breaker shit seems to do is slow down the crash, not actually prevent it


[16-Mar-20 01:47 PM] Opponent#3498
number middle, life meh.


[16-Mar-20 01:48 PM] byte[]#2610
> Bout time Trump files are another bankruptcy before he leaves this business as usual.

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[16-Mar-20 01:49 PM] byte[]#2610
This time he didn't just bankrupt himself


[16-Mar-20 01:49 PM] byte[]#2610
He bankrupted the entire US


[16-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Opponent#3498
#runlikeabusinessonfire


[16-Mar-20 01:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Been reading economics threads and realized


[16-Mar-20 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
A depression right now would basically bankrupt the retirement savings of most boomers


[16-Mar-20 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
A painful end


[16-Mar-20 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
ko boomer


[16-Mar-20 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
in more ways than one


[16-Mar-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fh30h2/oc_many_countries_are_only_lagging_a_few_days/

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r/dataisbeautiful - [OC] Many countries are only lagging a few days...
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[16-Mar-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/487531-teetering-economy-sparks-talk-of-second-stimulus-package

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Teetering economy sparks talk of second stimulus package
The Senate returns to work Monday to take up the House-passed coronavirus relief package, but senators are already starting discussions about a second round of economic stimulus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_012920bc2_lead.jpg


[16-Mar-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay more money thrown into the toilet


[16-Mar-20 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
stop propping up businesses that made bad decisions


[16-Mar-20 02:00 PM] byte[]#2610
let them go bankrupt ffs and absorb the loss


[16-Mar-20 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Mn1B4y6.png

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[16-Mar-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487747-florida-official-faces-backlash-for-suggesting-first-responders-take-one

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Florida official faces backlash for suggesting first responders 'ta...
A Miami Beach commissioner’s suggestion that first responders voluntarily contract coronavirus to build immunity was met with backlash after a recording of the comments at an emergency city meeting circulated.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_drive_thru_testing_031220getty_lead.jpg


[16-Mar-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not even how the virus works, it can infect people more than once, this isnt the chicken pox...


[16-Mar-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why are we being run by leaders who are lord farquaad from shrek...?


[16-Mar-20 02:06 PM] byte[]#2610
What's really going to kill us all off is a virus like the following
- has a long incubation period (14d+)
- is highly transmissible (saliva, sweat, breath, etc.)
- is extremely fatal (kills >50% of people who contract it)


[16-Mar-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think any of the huge epidemics in history were THAT bad


[16-Mar-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
No, but one could arise


[16-Mar-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
especially with >50% fatality rate.


[16-Mar-20 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
that would require genetic engineering


[16-Mar-20 02:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's extremely unlikely that a naturally evolved virus would have such properties


[16-Mar-20 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
of course, it's extremely unlikely that life exists to begin with, so it could still happen


[16-Mar-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/487756-top-us-health-agency-suffers-cyberattack-report

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Top US health agency suffers cyberattack: report
The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) was attacked by hackers over the weekend as the agency worked to respond to the coronavirus pandemic,
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[16-Mar-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Circuit breaker tripped


[16-Mar-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Trading halted

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[16-Mar-20 02:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Dow opened 9% down


[16-Mar-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
If it drops another 4% over the day trading will be halted for an hour


[16-Mar-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
If it drops another 11% trading will stop for the day


[16-Mar-20 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-united-airlines-execs-predict-waining-demand-into-summer-2020-3

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United Airlines bosses issue grim letter to employees, as airline e...
United's CEO and president wrote in a letter to employees that they expect demand will decrease into the summer with planes going largely unfilled.
https://i.insider.com/5e0212dd855cc240874e0784?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Mar-20 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Tl;DR: "This is coming out of your paychecks, not ours"


[16-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
When has airlines ever not been on financial crises


[16-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
xd


[16-Mar-20 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when it was run by the wright brothers


[16-Mar-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
> Munoz and Kirby also told employees that paychecks will likely be affected despite the company's efforts. The two are forgoing their own salaries, and the letter also stated that United's corporate officers will be receiving 50% pay cuts.


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
still, all of this to be expected.


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump fucks them with international travel


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
then local panic dumps domestic market


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think this is their doing.


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
or that they could prepare for this.


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait


[16-Mar-20 02:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The virus death rate has spiked?


[16-Mar-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, that was a hypothetical discussion, if you mean the >50% thing above.


[16-Mar-20 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
it spiked from 2% to 3.4%, but that was a few weeks ago


[16-Mar-20 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
and it wasn't even a spike


[16-Mar-20 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
it was just more data available


[16-Mar-20 02:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[16-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
holy christ dow is at -12.04% now


[16-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Crow#5457
was at -9.71%


[16-Mar-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
if it hits 13% trading will be paused again


[16-Mar-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
there's a conservative dude saying that public transportation should be shut down to prevent spread of the coronavirus


[16-Mar-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
I don't bother responding to him anymore because he's admitted multiple times he throws out bait to cause drama


[16-Mar-20 02:56 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
ibovespa is at -10.3%


[16-Mar-20 02:56 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:/


[16-Mar-20 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
seems like people are super scared of trading on the dow atm


[16-Mar-20 03:05 PM] Crow#5457
because they don't want to trigger the second or third breakers


[16-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it'd be pretty hard to talk about free market with a straight face as it is.


[16-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
wouldn't want to make it worse.


[16-Mar-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-index-reaction-fed-actions-coronavirus-economy-2020-3-1028999850

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Dow plunges 2,700 points after trading halt as Fed's emergency acti...
US stocks fell sharply on Monday as investors appear to    shrug off the Fed's emergency actions Sunday amid the    coronavirus pandemic. The S&P ...


[16-Mar-20 04:38 PM] Cloudy#3004
what if we take the DOW


[16-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Cloudy#3004
and flip the chart upside down


[16-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Cloudy#3004
so the arrow is climbing


[16-Mar-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
perfect, send this advice to the president!

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[16-Mar-20 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1239567267312152576?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1239567267312152576?s=21
Everybody is so well unified and working so hard. It is a beautiful thing to see. They love our great Country. We will end up being stronger than ever before!
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[16-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious seeing how relatively smoothly the dow is today


[16-Mar-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
compared to the past couple weeks of big spikes and valleys


[16-Mar-20 05:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/tUvQbjY

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Chinese tycoon Ren Zhiqiang, who criticized Xi’s response to coronavirus Has vanished
https://i.imgur.com/tUvQbjY.jpg


[16-Mar-20 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
> And the rest of the world just watches this authoritarianism evil happen because China makes all our stuff.


[16-Mar-20 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
> It even makes our plagues.


[16-Mar-20 05:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/_066dEkycr4

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Coronavirus II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
As the spread of coronavirus worsens in the US, John Oliver discusses how the government is handling the outbreak, how they’re not, and what we can do to help.

Connect with Last Week Tonight online... 

Subscribe to the Last Week Tonight YouTube channel for more almost news a...
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[16-Mar-20 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Gx2B8IJ.jpg

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[16-Mar-20 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
this country is so fucked


[16-Mar-20 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/eV6m34Z.png

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[16-Mar-20 05:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Welcome to America Crow


[16-Mar-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[16-Mar-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Apparently the hospitals ICU valve supplier was not happy about this & refused to supply blueprints. Insane." tweet is unavailable.


[16-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The tweet it was sourcing is still there tho https://twitter.com/ManySkills1701/status/1239205830794317824

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@RestartProject This story is confirmed by Italian media and by Massimo Temporelli himself through his Facebook account. A source (La Stampa) also says the supplier was not happy with that and refuse to provide blueprint files in order to speed up the work.
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[16-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Mar-20 06:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Old but a dumb take


[16-Mar-20 06:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
After the revolution these posters will be publically beaten.


[16-Mar-20 06:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
For being brainlets


[16-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/487820-airline-industry-calls-for-25b-in-assistance-for

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Airline industry calls for $50B in assistance
Airlines for America (A4A) on Monday, called on Congress and the administration to provide grants, loans, and tax relief to a beleaguered industry struggling through a coronavirus epidemic that has upended travel and forced the cancellations of th
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/americanairlines_dca_012920gn2_lead.jpg


[16-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No more golden parachutes


[16-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd rather every airline go bankrupt and they have to rebuild from ashes than do this


[16-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We should have let the auto industry die too btw


[16-Mar-20 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Socialism for corporations, rugged individualism for the people


[16-Mar-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of struggle to imagine what happens to US if air and auto dies.


[16-Mar-20 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/fed-says-it-will-offer-an-additional-500-billion-in-overnight-repo-funding-markets.html

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Fed says it will offer an additional $500 billion in overnight repo...
The Fed increased the amount of liquidity it's offering in short-term lending to the financial industry.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106434629-15838473582112020-03-10t125929z_315907904_rc20hf9g2cd8_rtrmadp_3_usa-stocks.jpg?v=1583847455


[16-Mar-20 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Money printer goes brrrrr


[16-Mar-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you gotta make sacrifices to appease the god Number


[16-Mar-20 07:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's less about 'socialism for corporations', more about things that are considered essential or otherwise.


[16-Mar-20 07:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-fuel-recession-forecast-us-europe-economic-july-market-jpmorgan-2020-3-1028994637

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JPMorgan officially forecasts a coronavirus-driven recession will r...
A new economic-growth estimate from JPMorgan projects that a recession will hit the US and European economies by July. The bank said its views o...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e6b9319e4f9fe07ef410114-2400/gettyimages-1208176880.jpg


[16-Mar-20 07:12 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of like states tend to support domestic agriculture even if it's terribly unprofitable.


[16-Mar-20 07:13 PM] Opponent#3498
people, by and large, are non-essential.


[16-Mar-20 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
US ag runs on the back of immigrant slave labor


[16-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
I think this method of thinking is another of those wonderful Cold war-era things, where the world is kind of globalised and trade is abundant, but it can go from cold to hot to apocalypse in a flash so you have to take precautions.


[16-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
and only thing that truly matters is 'today' and 'tommorow', 'in 20 years' is entirely irrelevant


[16-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
in that sense, the world never moved on from Cold War. Well, China did.


[16-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
Russia seems to fail at everything too often to be truly relevant


[16-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
so that leaves US.


[16-Mar-20 07:21 PM] Opponent#3498
and US is content to keep on keeping on.


[16-Mar-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent never; it'll probably be bailed out with another government buyout


[16-Mar-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fjncxl/romney_proposes_giving_1k_to_every_us_adult_amid/

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r/Coronavirus - Romney proposes giving $1K to every US adult amid c...
2,825 votes and 303 comments so far on Reddit
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[16-Mar-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487794-romney-proposes-sending-1000-to-every-american-adult-amid-coronavirus

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Romney proposes giving $1K to every US adult amid coronavirus
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) on Monday proposed giving $1,000 to every American adult as lawmakers scramble to try to bolster the U.S.
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[16-Mar-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Actually a sensible idea


[16-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ohio wants to delay its primary


[16-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-spain-nationalises-private-hospitals-emergency-covid-19-lockdown-2020-3

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Spain has nationalised all of its private hospitals as the country ...
Spain has put all private hospitals under government control indefinitely as the number of coronavirus cases surge in the country.
https://i.insider.com/5e6f8b09c4854029c274ae05?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
> The Spanish government has nationalised all private hospitals and healthcare providers as the country suffers a surge in coronavirus cases.
> 
> The Spanish government has also declared a state of emergency and mobilized the military.


[16-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
:wow:


[16-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
:glimmer:


[16-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:ewgay: :communism:


[16-Mar-20 08:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1239620630523322368?s=21

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Just had a  very good tele-conference with Nation’s Governors. Went very well. Cuomo of New York has to “do more”.
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[16-Mar-20 08:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Talking shit


[16-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETQGqgTUUAoMbKU.jpg:orig

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[16-Mar-20 08:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Hue


[16-Mar-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487805-bernie-sanders-not-sure-it-makes-a-lot-of-sense-to-hold-primaries-right-now

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Sanders: 'Not sure' it makes 'a lot of sense' to hold primaries rig...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday evening he’s not sure it makes sense for states to hold primaries amid the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sanders_bernie_debate_2020_03_15.jpg


[16-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'm losing, help"


[16-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
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[16-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
see, that's the thing


[16-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
if primaries are held now, it furthers Sanders' cause either way


[16-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
boomers come and contact the plague


[16-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
or they don't. And he wins.


[16-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it's 'losing, send help', more like him playing and/or being (likely both) a good guy.


[16-Mar-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9zqHTZhX_O/?igshid=wk88cxxxrc6i

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42.9k Likes, 5,296 Comments - The Shade Room (@theshaderoom) on Instagram: “#PressPlay: #Trump says the guidelines that have been put in place to combat the Coronavirus…”
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[16-Mar-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Wall Street has a grisly day despite massive Fed intervention https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/dow-falls-2-200-points-trading-halted-rate-cut-fails-n1160246

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Wall Street has a grisly day despite massive Fed intervention
The Dow fell 13 percent for its worst points loss ever, down almost 3,00 points by the closing bell.
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[16-Mar-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
I swear those old men in these stock market pics are all actors


[16-Mar-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
I had the same idea


[16-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
there's likely a stock market-themed photoset


[16-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
30% across the board, nice.


[16-Mar-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
number small life bad


[16-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as bad as Black Monday but close


[16-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/487886-stocks-take-worst-losses-since-1987-crash-as-dow-plunges-nearly-3000-points

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Stocks take worst losses since 1987 crash as Dow plunges nearly 300...
Stocks took their steepest losses since the 1987 market crash on Monday as the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged almost 3,000 points, marking the second-worst day in its history.
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[16-Mar-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Mar-20 09:50 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[16-Mar-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Mar-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When did Heihachi become a stock broker


[16-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
San Francisco on Italy style lockdown for three weeks


[16-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Homeless tho


[16-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism has made quarantine impossible.


[16-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Homeless people are everywhere, many still hav hepatitis A or such.


[16-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Mar-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
This day has been called Black Monday II already


[16-Mar-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.bitcoin.com/us-ban-encryption/

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Under the guise of fighting against online child pornography, American politicians are trying to effectively ban end-to-end encryption on all
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[16-Mar-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
it mentions protecting children, so it'll pass for sure sadly


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[16-Mar-20 11:16 PM] ononim#8141
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[16-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
well, yeah, _obviously_.


[16-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I've talked to a guy in a different pony-related server who was very adamant about capitalism, free trade, all that good stuff. That it's amazing, it moves the world forward and people away from poverty etc


[16-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
he couldn't answer 'what is poverty', past 'an income line defined by someone'. Someone with obvious vested interest in pushing their agenda.


[16-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
he had graphs and everything to back up this idea, too


[16-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
loved the graphs, that one.


[16-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, World Bank. 1.9$ a day.


[16-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
he used that one definition as his baseline.


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The poverty line the US uses is a joke btw


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's way, way too low.


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you have over 500 USD liquid you're not poor


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They try to make up for it some by doing a multiple in program requirements


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that rent is 800 USD


[16-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
but even then it's still a joke


[16-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So, gl;hf


[16-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be like, you get this program if you make less than 2.4x poverty line, you need 5x poverty line to rent a single room.


[16-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those liquidity caps are an explanation for why there are furry art commissioners living out of trailers parks that drop 200 USD a month on porn of their OC


[16-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you get your 5x poverty line job, landlord says no.


[16-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they don't burn the money on something, they lose access to aid programs


[16-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, to rent from him, you need to make 3x rent.


[16-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you need like 12x poverty line to actually rent.


[16-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, I know a guy who's in that situation with his disabled mom and his just-coming-of-age sister.


[16-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they ever, ever hav over $2000 in liquid assets, they lose the money from the gov't keeping them alive.


[16-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like, they can't save up for things.


[16-Mar-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Just save up for college or night classes :^) "


[16-Mar-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Said guy is autistic to an extreme, was heavily abused by various stepdads during his childhood.


[16-Mar-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Why don't you get a better car instead of a lemon that breaks down every month?"


[16-Mar-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, literally enslaved by them, at one point raped by one of their older kids.


[16-Mar-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can't wash dishes because of PTSD, has a panic attakk when computers break.


[16-Mar-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
No college no nothing, so he can't get a job.


[16-Mar-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
His mom basically can't liv on her own cause she has serious memory issues.


[16-Mar-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Mar-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has various family members in worse situations.


[16-Mar-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of whom I mentioned before as the guy whose foster parents are withholding identity documents.


[16-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every time people try to come up with a way to fix his situation, it comes down to "you'd need to save up money so..."


[16-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
I forget whether he was able to actually get ID good for voting or not.


[16-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
New York's one of those states where in theory the list of documents is long and benevolent.


[16-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, you liv upstate, your family's a mess, haha you need more than birth certificate and SSN so welp.


[16-Mar-20 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Registering and checking up on every citizen's documentation for voting should be a duty of the state, not of the citizens themselves


[16-Mar-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the US, next thing you know they'll say it should be the responsibility of private businesses.


[16-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[16-Mar-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
"in the last few days"


[16-Mar-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
so will bojo backpedal or not


[17-Mar-20 12:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_066dEkycr4&pbjreload=10

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[17-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Crow#5457
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We can do anything.
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[17-Mar-20 12:31 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
That Last Week Tonight episode was really surreal to watch


[17-Mar-20 12:42 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow and after it's over "we" the hivemind get collective amnesia and nothing changes


[17-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The part that really hits is how they can't use their normal location, because of ACTUAL CASES.


[17-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also wow, that guy touching everything...


[17-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
he was so sure of himself :pudding:


[17-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy from the Utah Jazz?


[17-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
yeah.


[17-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's utterly crazy how common it is that people will mokk the idea of basic measures to stop virus spread.


[17-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only did he end the NBA season, he basically started a cascade that ended all organized sports


[17-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[17-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This past weekend was the first one since 9/11 with no professional sports being played


[17-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sportsbot 5000: ALL SPORTS CANCELED.


[17-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0gDp8DwzrI

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Futurama News Broadcast with Sportsbot 5000 (ALL SPORTS CANCELLED)
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[17-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Futurama understands humans so well.


[17-Mar-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Louis Rossmann talks about the airline bailout <https://youtu.be/EQ2NHkX57Yk>


[17-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mayotte and Reunion both hav the virus.


[17-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Madagascar is now sandwiched.


[17-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[17-Mar-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
correct


[17-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yang's probably going "Oh, NOW you think it's a good idea, huh?"


[17-Mar-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans are pretty much right on the nose on that aspect


[17-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-cotton-calling-for-americans-to-get-100-month-coronavirus-2020-3

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[17-Mar-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
well, some of them, anyway...


[17-Mar-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Mitt Romney also thinks so


[17-Mar-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
> If I was a billionaire oil tycoon, I'd buy a huge bounce house mansion to live in. Being super-wealthy means not having to worry about inflation.

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[17-Mar-20 02:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
22 newly reported cases of corona in Chinese mainland yesterday


[17-Mar-20 02:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
1 local infected case in Hubei, 21 oversea imported cases in Bejing, Shanghai, Guangxi, Shaanxi, Shandong and Yunnan.


[17-Mar-20 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
operative word being, 'reported' I assume.


[17-Mar-20 02:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yeah. Those who died at home don't count.


[17-Mar-20 02:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Days ago someone just found two dead body in a house in Wuhan and posted the video on TikTok


[17-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239685852093169664

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The United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus. We will be stronger than ever before!
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[17-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Chinese Virus"


[17-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He can't manage a single fucking day without being a moron, can he


[17-Mar-20 02:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Emmm... I can't see anything wrong except the last sentence


[17-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Part of Trump's brand is to _always_ hint that the blame lies elsewhere


[17-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been a motto of US presidents for 70 years that "the buck stops here", as in the ultimate person responsible, and to blame, for what goes wrong in government in the president


[17-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yesterday Trump was asked if he felt any responsibility for him closing down the early pandemic warning task force in the white house, and he immediately said "no I don't feel responsible" and went on a 2 minute rant about how there's just a lot of people and he doesn't manage everything and it could have been anyone and this was really the first time he's ever heard about it etc.


[17-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man is a pathological narcissist and a coward


[17-Mar-20 02:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[17-Mar-20 02:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, in China red means profit and green means deficit


[17-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, markets bombed


[17-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure 0-interest loans will fix society coming apart at the seams cause of a lakk of respect for the essentialness of health services.


[17-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just keep blowing that helium balloon with hot air, it'll be fine


[17-Mar-20 02:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So lucky I'm too poor to buy any stocks


[17-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tomorrow's primaries are going to be interesting


[17-Mar-20 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't find that graph showing all the bell curves of what would happen with various approaches to coronavirus - the one that has the red line at the bottom showing available hospital beds


[17-Mar-20 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know I saw it on here somewhere earlier today


[17-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[17-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf


[17-Mar-20 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tyvm


[17-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's for the UK btw


[17-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The red line for the US is probably lower.


[17-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is critical care beds only btw, not every single bed.


[17-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most beds are just...beds, and not really sufficient for what'll be going on with people.


[17-Mar-20 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah I remember the term "ICU" being thrown around but discord's search is just hehghegoijkljg


[17-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a lot of equipment for critical care.


[17-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Equipment and trained caretakers


[17-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[17-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fukkie wukkie made.


[17-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/487936-amazon-bans-most-sales-of-mein-kampf-after-decades-of-lobbying

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Amazon has reportedly banned the sale of most editions of Adolf Hitler’s "Mein Kampf" after decades of lobbying from Jewish groups and Holocaust charities.
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[17-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To explain how Nazism is bad; we have decided to ban books.


[17-Mar-20 03:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
time for a book burning.


[17-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanhile, I can get it at any local bookstore in Germany...


[17-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's poorly written.


[17-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the way to solve fascism: Make them able to play the victim card by targeting something inconsequential to their operation that they like.


[17-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turner Diaries is probably more influential.


[17-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[17-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mom & Pop shop gets into trouble, the bank cleans them out


[17-Mar-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
socialism for big corporations, rugged individualism for everyone else


[17-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sen. Cotton wants socialism now


[17-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big money business doesn't keep enough in the bank for a rough month, taxpayers bail them out


[17-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But only Emergency Socialism


[17-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice free market capitalism we've got going on here


[17-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should all fucking burn


[17-Mar-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was going to say to let them drown


[17-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is more painful


[17-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why not both?


[17-Mar-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I say if we're going to bail them out they better start bailing out everyone else like that


[17-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even GOP senators want socialism now


[17-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Airports will just start selling sanitizer wipes at $2 a sheet after their bailout


[17-Mar-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I would like the airline industry to eat shit and die as much as anyone else, but I can't see that necessarily being good for poor people (besides the obvious impact of reduced pollution benefitting everyone directly)


[17-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Swathes of angry poor people with the free time to riot and build guillotines I guess


[17-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[17-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just convince them that some minority group is at fault


[17-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but it's too late to undo asians being honorary white.


[17-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they can't target the Chinese.


[17-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chekkmate, GOP.


[17-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
the chinese brought plague to their land.


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it's an ideal chance.


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't fight 5 decades of pro-Asian propaganda.


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
they ARE honorary white that's better at math, but they also engineered a virus that nearly killed US


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
You did


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
k


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd take a whole decade to reverse at this point.


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's too long.


[17-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a decade, the current GOP leadership will be dead.


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
You are too optimistic, I see anti-asian racism now constantly


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, it's around


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not anywhere near as much as towards mexicans, blakks etc.


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is heavily rooted in jealousy though, which makes it slightly different.


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just put them in concentration camps immediately.


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mexicans and blacks is "they're inferior"


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making people think they're inferior is hard.


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(again)


[17-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Asians are "They get better stuff, fukk them, they only got it because they're Asian"


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, you mainly see that kind of racism from poorer whites.


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the elites.


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fun fact, only member of Trump's cabinet not eligible for the presidency is Elain Chao, cause Chinese in origin.


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> In a decade, the current GOP leadership will be dead
Then they live to their 90s laughing


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How convenient!


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's McConnell's wife.


[17-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmmm


[17-Mar-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, GOP *can't* turn this into "kill the Chinese"


[17-Mar-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dekk's stakked against them on that.


[17-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is pretty much perfect to entirely defeat their whole worldview.


[17-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just find it weird all this Huawei shit started recently


[17-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When we've let China integrate themselves with the US tech industry for decades


[17-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Takes a while to sound alarms among neoliberals about market abuse.


[17-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Focus on that and not the Belt and Road, yes


[17-Mar-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Mar-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Timing is similar to 1929


[17-Mar-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
what was dotcom crash?


[17-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
first I've ever heard the term


[17-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was during early Internet when startups happened that were "we're an Internet company" and sold stocks without having a real product


[17-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
ah


[17-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pets.com was the most infamous


[17-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
but it turned out fine


[17-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.polygon.com/2020/3/8/21170344/nintendo-playstation-auction-buyer-pets-com-greg-mclemore

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Buyer of $300,000 ‘Nintendo PlayStation’ is Pets.com founder
Greg McLemore has been collecting rare video games for 20 years
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[17-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
figures.


[17-Mar-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
"I burned through investor money to fund my Nintendo collection"


[17-Mar-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
We're looking over the edge of a worldwide depression that could last over a year


[17-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd expect 4-6 years.


[17-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
no wonder people are doing whatever they can think of to stave it off.


[17-Mar-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
too bad large companies have an almost guarantee of bailout


[17-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it sucks, but the major names integrated themselves into society too deeply.


[17-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
*boomers singing and dancing about the benefits of capitalism while applying socialism to their own companies*


[17-Mar-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/zc88qmp973n41.jpg

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[17-Mar-20 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because Jacii, the demands of capitalism demands immediate expenditure to consolidate additional capital to make additional profit to use for the acquisition of additional capital and so on


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then they hit the market ceiling and fucking die


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
But not us: we are the commodity to be bought and sold!


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
capitalism can't handle a decrease in consumption


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
So stay alive


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudi-Arabias-Oil-War-Could-Bankrupt-The-Kingdom.html

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https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudi-Arabias-Oil-War-Could-Bankrupt-The-Kingdom.html
Saudi Arabia’s Oil War Could Bankrupt The Kingdom | OilPrice.com
Saudi Arabia’s decision to once again flood oil markets in order to bankrupt US shale producers us a terrible decision, and could have a much bigger impact than the last time it tried to do the same
https://d32r1sh890xpii.cloudfront.net/article/718x300/2020-03-13_8wnbrdqmji.jpg


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Good


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Guess who's going to bail them out if they do

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[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
End the House of Saud


[17-Mar-20 04:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
It was a bad joke to begin with


[17-Mar-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Republican Arabia now


[17-Mar-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Proletarian Republican Arabia now :glowing_eyes:


[17-Mar-20 06:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogm0qtuEsU

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogm0qtuEsU
Even Fox Host Knows Trump Robot is Lying
--Even Fox News host Martha MacCallum knew that Trump robot Dr. Seema Verma was lying uncontrollably during a Fox News interview

Lunatic Christian Says "Silver" Kills the Virus https://youtu.be/G5pJBPFsrfc

Support The David Pakman Show:
-Become a Member: https://www.davidpak...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qogm0qtuEsU/sddefault.jpg


[17-Mar-20 06:16 AM] illumnious#7938
TrumpBot hun?


[17-Mar-20 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tokyo still planning on running the olympics


[17-Mar-20 07:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Japan would probably have corona under control by summer


[17-Mar-20 08:25 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
And then single chineese tourist would ruin everything


[17-Mar-20 08:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
single anywhere tourist at this point


[17-Mar-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Tourist from Madagascar ruins Olympics with return of pandemic" would be quite the headline.


[17-Mar-20 09:23 AM] Crow#5457
hold tokyo olympics in madagascar, obviously


[17-Mar-20 10:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-moves-to-drop-charges-ira-russians-indicted-mueller-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-moves-to-drop-charges-ira-russians-indicted-mueller-2020-3
Justice Department moves to drop charges against Russians indicted ...
Notably, the DOJ decided to drop charges "in light of recent events and a change in ... the government's proof due to a classification determination."
https://i.insider.com/5de8ddd1fd9db2230722c4f9?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Mar-20 11:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-relief-bill-wont-pass-senate-as-is-gop-lawmaker-2020-3-1029001435

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Coronavirus relief bill that includes paid sick leave won't pass th...
An emergency package designed to mitigate the mounting economic effects of the coronavirus pandemic has hit several snags on Capitol Hill. Busin...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e6fcda4c4854069c56ac499-2400/ap17214575065546.jpg


[17-Mar-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4

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thejuicemedia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4
Honest Government Ad | Coronavirus: Flatten The Curve
The Government has made an ad about the Coronavirus and its surprisingly honest and informative.

🔹 READ THIS NOW: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
🔹 Good article explaining Flattening the Curve: https://blogs.scientificameri...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hks6Nq7g6P4/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Mar-20 12:05 PM] Opponent#3498
rip me bullshit memes :<


[17-Mar-20 01:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) The thing about the paid sick leave thing is that it was heavy with exceptions. Companies with more than 500 employees were exempt and companies under fifty were exempt at Trump's disgression


[17-Mar-20 01:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/384069469686988801/689438304537673747/90174927_2608508359428329_5291540918606757888_n.png

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[17-Mar-20 01:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
New podcast that you can pay for or wait until June. Chapo posted the prequel. It's about the Iraq war. A full exploration.

https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/blowback-iraqnophobia-feat-h-jon-benjamin-james-adomian

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Chapo Trap House
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/blowback-iraqnophobia-feat-h-jon-benjamin-james-adomian
Blowback: Iraqnophobia feat H. Jon Benjamin & James Adomian
To listen to Blowback now, sign up for a free month of Stitcher Premium at stitcherpremium.com with the code 'BLOWBACK'. The show will be available to listen everywhere in June.

In this primer episod
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-fZHZM0QeAvyWticb-aNKq1w-large.jpg


[17-Mar-20 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51906530

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51906530
'The rich are to blame for climate change'
The Leeds University study looked at 86 countries and came to broadly the same conclusions about the rich.
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[17-Mar-20 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Rest of world: no shit


[17-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:pika:


[17-Mar-20 02:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/l8cl38z9q6n41 literally chapelle "sprinkle some crack on him"

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Cop Plants Crack On An Innocent Man, Gets Angry When He Realizes It...
Posted in r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut by u/yeahthatsprettynice • 7,627 points and 622 comments
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[17-Mar-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/home-depot-workers-seek-20-pay-hike/

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https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/home-depot-workers-seek-20-pay-hike/
Home Depot workers seek 20% pay hike, threaten to strike in 13 states
Employees of home improvement retailer The Home Depot have threatened to strike in 13 states if the company doesn’t improve their salaries and benefits.
https://mk0mexiconewsdam2uje.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/home-depot.jpg


[17-Mar-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Holy shit, thank you Mexico


[17-Mar-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
You gave me a nice raise up here in the states.


[17-Mar-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
I literally owe you guys my fourteen bucks


[17-Mar-20 03:06 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/lokshin/status/1239906454011871235

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Pavel Lokshin (@lokshin)
https://twitter.com/lokshin/status/1239906454011871235
Moscow is reportedly preparing for full-scale quarantine. A curfew, no more public transport, nobody enters or leaves the city. More than 2000 people could be infected in Moscow alone, according to a source close to the federal govt https://t.co/zRNBsdIs1J
Twitter


[17-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[17-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
no half-measures huh.


[17-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
curfew in fucking Moscow


[17-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Opponent#3498
well yeah, they know that unlike US that has greed preventing successful medical services, in Moscow things will simply collapse and it will die out.


[17-Mar-20 03:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/5mggllis52n41.jpg

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[17-Mar-20 03:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent Well America is also much more decentralized in politics than Russia or China or even Italy. So so far all we can bother with is half measures and minimum leadership. or rather no one is willing to go further


[17-Mar-20 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/this-is-like-a-war-view-from-italys-coronavirus-frontline

7.7% mortality rate in Italy

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'This is like a war': view from Italy's coronavirus frontline
Friends and relatives of those killed by Covid-19 tell of the virus’s devastating impact
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[17-Mar-20 03:49 PM] byte[]#2610
The US could have the same or higher mortality


[17-Mar-20 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
back of napkin math, 40% of US population infected, 7.7% mortality rate, 10 million dead people


[17-Mar-20 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
crazy


[17-Mar-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/articles/902782/economy-crashing-again-time-lets-bail-ordinary-americans

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https://theweek.com/articles/902782/economy-crashing-again-time-lets-bail-ordinary-americans
The economy is crashing again. This time, let's bail out ordinary A...
Stimulus should start at the ground level and work its way up
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_9_4/public/hands_13.jpg?itok=Aj8O1OMq


[17-Mar-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/getdisneyprime/status/1239932859273658369?s=21

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It's Not Disney. It's Disney Prime Video. (@GetDisneyPrime)
https://twitter.com/getdisneyprime/status/1239932859273658369?s=21
Time Roast (1985) https://t.co/ZkTrksil8M
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETUgWj9XQAA8-_E.jpg:large
Twitter


[17-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I see the US is still madly printing fake money to stop numbers going down


[17-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Marukomuru#8409
But isn't that inevitably going to make numbers go down in the long run


[17-Mar-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[17-Mar-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489888838265733121/688423107433594920/AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.gif

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[17-Mar-20 06:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"That's 46's problem"


[17-Mar-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/488032-melania-trump-read-a-book-work-on-a-hobby-while-at-home

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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/488032-melania-trump-read-a-book-work-on-a-hobby-while-at-home
Melania Trump: Read a book, work on a hobby while stuck at home
First lady Melania Trump encouraged those staying home amid the coronavirus pandemic to utilize the time to reconnect with loved ones online, spend time with family or simply pick up a book.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpmelania_102319gn3_lead.jpg


[17-Mar-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Let them crochet"


[17-Mar-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Masturbate excessively


[17-Mar-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mcdonald's, charge you phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip and lie


[17-Mar-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
throw stuff off cliff and imagine body hitting ground


[17-Mar-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/mt8ogrtl39n41.jpg

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[17-Mar-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-15/coronavirus-test-us-china

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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-15/coronavirus-test-us-china
She couldn't get a coronavirus test in the U.S., so she flew back t...
When the coronavirus outbreak began in China, many other nations blocked Chinese travelers. Now China is raising its guard against outside infections.
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[17-Mar-20 07:34 PM] ononim#8141
correction, so far authorities denied what the city wide quarantine and curfew are planned


[17-Mar-20 07:34 PM] ononim#8141
tho school and iniversities will be closed starting next week


[17-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
re: China, people trying to do the right thing get shafted the hardest, it seems.


[17-Mar-20 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
World, you mean


[17-Mar-20 07:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I meant response to the headline above, but, yeah. That's... universal


[17-Mar-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11183982/god-using-coronavirus-for-good-because-women-being-pushed-back-into-homes-christian-blogger-says/

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God 'using coronavirus for good' because women being 'pushed back i...
A CHRISTIAN blogger claims God is “using coronavirus for good” because women are being “pushed back into homes” during the deadly pandemic. Lori Alexander, who wrote The Pow…
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[17-Mar-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, thank you, Sun, for giving her an even bigger platform for this idiocy


[17-Mar-20 08:43 PM] Karmadose#6969
If there's any statement from god about this pandemic it's that they are fucking pissed at boomers


[17-Mar-20 08:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*LAND OF THE FREE*


[17-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[17-Mar-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Bah, apparently that was fake nonsense


[17-Mar-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kushner-oscar-covid/

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Alex Kasprak
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kushner-oscar-covid/
Does Jared Kushner’s Brother Own a Company Involved in COVID-19 Tes...
Oscar, a digital health-insurance startup that recently set up a service for users to find COVID-19 testing centers, was co-founded by Joshua Kushner.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/03/GettyImages-691666052-e1584400701396.jpg?fit=1024,535


[17-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Aw.


[17-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~statement still stands though~~


[17-Mar-20 08:53 PM] Karmadose#6969
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-wait-swine-flu-n1h1/

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Dan Evon
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-wait-swine-flu-n1h1/
Did Obama Declare Swine Flu an Emergency Only After 'Millions' Were...
Not all "fact checks" are created equal.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/03/GettyImages-90259772-e1584116996863.jpg?fit=1200,627


[17-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Karmadose#6969
"On Feb. 28, 2020, the website PJ Media published an article claiming that U.S. President Barack Obama had waited until millions were infected and thousands were dead from swine flu"


[17-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Karmadose#6969
"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has a detailed timeline of this pandemic on its website. It shows that the CDC first activated its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) on April 22, 2009. At the time, there were only two confirmed cases in the United States. On April 25, 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared a public health emergency of international concern, and the following day the Obama administration did the same. At that time, there were about 20 confirmed cases. "


[17-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Karmadose#6969
straight up lies


[17-Mar-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The right has dismissed snopes as fake news anyway


[17-Mar-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, they've done a character assassination on the site founders


[17-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Karmadose#6969
There have been so many weird things the trump administration has been lying about as well, like his inauguration crowd size


[17-Mar-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-03-17/judge-coronavirus-blocks-food-stamp-cuts

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https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-03-17/judge-coronavirus-blocks-food-stamp-cuts
Column: Citing coronavirus, judge blocks Trump plan to take food st...
A federal judge stops Trump from taking food stamps from 700,000
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[17-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Karmadose#6969
I've heard someone tell me that XKCD is leftist propaganda before


[17-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Karmadose#6969
also newyork times


[17-Mar-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> bail out regular americans
"What do you mean corporations aren't regular, tax paying americans?"


[17-Mar-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there was a supreme court case that said they were!


[17-Mar-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/17/right-wing-pundits-shameless-pivot-it-was-a-hoax-but-now-its-an-emergency/

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Right-wing media's shameless pivot: It's real and Democrats did it
After weeks of minimizing coronavirus, now conservatives are trying to blame Democrats for the pandemic
https://media.salon.com/2020/03/ingraham-hannity-limbaugh-earhardt-0317201.jpg


[17-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Honahue#0656
corporations don't pay taxes though only poors do


[17-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Honahue#0656
siilly them not being able to incorporate in the Caimen ilse


[17-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Karmadose#6969
Damn it, I got locked out because of my ad blocker, so I copy and pasted the link into incognito, and I get greeted with surprise mind games


[17-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Karmadose#6969

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[17-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Karmadose#6969
I mean the top x worked fine and didn't trick me to going to some link, but still wtf


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Karmadose#6969
this is why people adblock


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just be glad this site doesn't auto-block incognito mode too


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause hoo boy that's the main thing that's made me abandon news sites


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Karmadose#6969
boomers need to update their business models


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
use NoScript


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
it will block sites that block adblockers from blocking your adblocker


[17-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice that you get ads for masks that're supposedly being nationalized...


[17-Mar-20 09:12 PM] Karmadose#6969
What we need is adblock+++


[17-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
AdBlockX


[17-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ublock

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[17-Mar-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://slate.com/business/2020/03/airlines-bailout-coronavirus.html>
> It has been a little more than two years since American Airlines CEO Doug Parker told investors, in an instant business school cautionary tale, “I don’t think we’re ever going to lose money again.” How time flies when a viral pandemic ravages the earth.
Found this while searching "bailout resturants" 😛


[17-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
uBlock Origin-Max, now with hardcoded whitelists

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[17-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also it's hardcoded into every browser


[17-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/3/us-must-demand-that-china-release-freedom-fighter-/

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U.S. must demand that China release freedom fighter Jimmy Lai
Jimmy Lai was arrested last week. Conviction could mean five years in prison. Or more:
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[17-Mar-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
oh god WT


[17-Mar-20 09:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like no matter how many times we tell him, he's still got that site at the top of his news bookmarks


[17-Mar-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
probably gets them from an expressly "conservative" guild


[17-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. literally any gamer and most pony discords


[17-Mar-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
SJWs are destroying video games TSP


[17-Mar-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't bear it when there are female characters with short hair


[17-Mar-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
It makes me so mad


[17-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was a gay character in an optional side mission

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[17-Mar-20 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/pauline-latham-tory-mp-get-a-life-tweet-a4389231.html
https://twitter.com/Pauline_Latham/status/1238903676934160384?s=20

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Tory MP defends 'get a life' tweet sent 'in error' to sick pay query
A Tory MP said a tweet sent to someone asking about sick pay which read "get a life" was not meant to be shared to them.  Pauline Latham, who has represented mid Derbyshire since 2010, wrote the post on Saturday.  Another user on Twitter said: "Hi @Pauline_Latham, is £94 a wee...
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Pauline Latham (@Pauline_Latham)
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@ML1Hughes Get a life
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[17-Mar-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Fucking beta cuck soyboy developers


[17-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/09/taiwan-should-member-world-health-organization-coronavirus-politics-china-column/4978537002/

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Taiwan should be a member of WHO — coronavirus doesn't care about h...
If we’re going to successfully fight a pandemic, Taiwan has to be a part of the solution and it shouldn’t matter whether that gets China miffed.
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[17-Mar-20 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Sounds like the problem is 🇨🇳 not 🇹🇼


[17-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What do you mean? China is not and has not problems

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[17-Mar-20 09:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What is a Taiwan? What's that? Some place in China?

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[17-Mar-20 10:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
decided to run some coronavirus numbers using your old friend logistic growth


[17-Mar-20 10:19 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[17-Mar-20 10:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(numbers from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)
ran a logistic regression


[17-Mar-20 10:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[17-Mar-20 10:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[17-Mar-20 10:20 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so BY THE CURRENT DATA, ASSUMING LOGISTIC GROWTH (both of which are reasonable to do)
17,939 people should be infected in the US
and the disease will take approx 2 months to run its course


[17-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/03/17/voter-turnout-low-as-coronavirus-impacts-florida-primary-election/

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Voter turnout low as coronavirus impacts Florida primary election
With Florida's presidential preference primary falling over Spring Break, elections officials always assumed voter turnout would be much lower than in 2016, when the lack of an incumbent president drove voters from all political parties to the polls.
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[17-Mar-20 10:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Florida is not even real anymore


[17-Mar-20 10:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/wfla/status/1239618604255059975?s=21

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Clearwater Beach, Florida is PACKED today despite "social distancing" recommendations. https://t.co/WzGydcP1Ja https://t.co/vsRD4QLbhr
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[17-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was in Florida last week. Went to a Spring Training game. No one cared.


[17-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have neighbors that have a condo there, they said no one cares either.


[17-Mar-20 10:32 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
also, if anyone gives a damn
this is Italy's
expected 66.5k infected and in a 2 month course

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[17-Mar-20 10:33 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ok that's all


[17-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/it-s-silent-outside-italy-france-spain-adapt-life-under-n1160171

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Coronavirus: Silence shrouds streets in cities across Italy, France...
"After the coronavirus, nothing will be as before," Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte tells the Corriere della Sera newspaper.
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[17-Mar-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@IAmADeliciousPotato   19k cases out of 330m people, and millions of people working in resturants fucked because of those 19k. rip


[17-Mar-20 10:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah it's pretty rough


[17-Mar-20 10:42 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it's why I didn't want people overreacting


[17-Mar-20 10:44 PM] jlun2#8758
even worse is that they probably won't get bailed out


[17-Mar-20 10:44 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah; I imagine a "corona's gone, fuck you" attitude in the aftermath


[17-Mar-20 10:45 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
NOTE: The US's numbers may not be perfectly accurate right now because we're still trying to improve testing here


[17-Mar-20 10:47 PM] jlun2#8758
Then some boomer scum will whine on a news site about "those dang zoomers are ganging up with the millenials to kill our american service industry" because clearly it's always young ppl


[17-Mar-20 10:47 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
currently looks like it'll be a lowball of actual given how our testing capabilities improve and find more cases
but still, as of the current data, 20,000 infected seems accurate


[17-Mar-20 10:47 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
jlun we can worry about the dumb shit the boomers will pull AFTER the disease ends


[17-Mar-20 10:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, there is a medical concept I think is applicable to that


[17-Mar-20 10:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
prophylactic


[17-Mar-20 10:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if someone were to make sure they can't pull something BEFORE they pull it, we'll have a better time of it


[17-Mar-20 10:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
lol u rite
but how do we make sure of that


[17-Mar-20 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, we ought to have started a couple years ago if we really wanted to, tbh, but


[17-Mar-20 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
simple things like making it illegal to fire people for quarantining themselves during the crisis, making sure everyone has cash on hand to get us out of this, or letting said industries die DURING the crisis and not after it because maybe some corporations getting a bailout really needed to face consequences after all


[17-Mar-20 10:57 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah you'd think that kinda stuff is mandatory


[17-Mar-20 10:57 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
instead of "sorry but if we just let you have paid leave it'll cut into our ludicrously large profits and turn them into just very large profits"


[17-Mar-20 10:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no one who avoided consequences enough to get that rich are going to enforce anything on themselves to cut into it


[17-Mar-20 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And our gov't is now so wholly dependent upon their influence that they gotta BRRRR the money machine for them above all else, seemingly


[17-Mar-20 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(they don't have to, I'm half joking. They only have to if they want their help to stay elected)


[17-Mar-20 11:00 PM] jlun2#8758
does that even work if chances are they can still fire people and keep the printed money as profit


[17-Mar-20 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the "printed money" is already down the drain


[17-Mar-20 11:00 PM] jlun2#8758
gotta buy them private yachts


[17-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://apnews.com/c719bf1a1cce1e3d60251c4a9d3d4239

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After gains in northern Syria, Assad predicts total victory
DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syrian President Bashar Assad congratulated his forces Monday for recent gains in northwestern Syria that led to his troops consolidating control over Aleppo province,...
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[17-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51914600

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US pulling out of key Iraq bases
The decision to leave three sites shows the US is looking to dramatically reduce its footprint.
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[17-Mar-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
people who think paid leave at companies actually affects profits vastly overestimate how much working actually goes on at companies


[17-Mar-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I spent probably 10-20% of my time doing actual productive work at the desk last summer


[17-Mar-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The rest was either waiting for the database to return rows (was an old ass IBM i system, took hours to run queries) or not doing anything at all


[17-Mar-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
that's for office jobs, anyway


[17-Mar-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would effect retail more than office work


[17-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted retail also has a lot of downtime if you have stocking/cart retreival postion


[17-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though you have  to hide the downtime


[17-Mar-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488123-meghan-mccain-blasts-baby-boomers-and-millennials-for-ignoring-crowd-warnings

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Meghan McCain blasts 'Baby Boomers and millennials' for ignoring cr...
Meghan McCain on Tuesday ripped “Baby Boomers and millennials” for ignoring government guidelines on “social distancing” during the coronavirus outbreak, calling New York Major Bill De Blasio “a national disgrace” for going to the gym even as his
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[18-Mar-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Radical centrism


[18-Mar-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Both sides


[18-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>we have to ignore crowd gatherings while you go speak on your tv show which involves crowds to some extent


[18-Mar-20 12:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ok, celebrity


[18-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/senators-push-to-expand-vote-by-mail-as-coronavirus-keeps-people-home.html

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Senators push to let every American vote by mail as coronavirus kee...
Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden are pushing to make vote-by-mail available to every American as the coronavirus threatens election schedules.
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[18-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
this would be huge if it gets passed


[18-Mar-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
plz plz


[18-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie getting obliterated in Florida.
700k to ~275k


[18-Mar-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
then the mails from certain groups of people mysteriously get "lost"

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[18-Mar-20 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
blrgheghlhrg


[18-Mar-20 12:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, what happens if we get through these primaries and then Biden dies before the general election's ballot is finalized


[18-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems Florida doesn't believe there's a world beyond it's borders and the people want to keep it that way.


[18-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
you get GABBARD :D


[18-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know Biden wants a woman VP but choosing Warren would be super bad form


[18-Mar-20 12:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It also seems that they did everything they could to keep the group that just got allowed to vote from not being able to vote


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know if he can name any women politicians


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if he can name his immediate family without trouble


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his sister wife


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The decline was so quick, in 2016 he was fine


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well how do you think he won Alabama


[18-Mar-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by fuckin his sister live on stage?


[18-Mar-20 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
watch us find out that the man's slightly radioactive or something


[18-Mar-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better question is, what happens if both general candidates die?


[18-Mar-20 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or that he really likes this one intern who showed up and just started handing him a coffee every day


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is it just nancy pelosi for 4 years?


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Pence would try to leverage himself in


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
GABBARD


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
his whole approach seemed to be riding Trump's coattails into office and then staying quiet


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Longshot Trump challenger got more votes in the GOP primary than Gabbard did


[18-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WEW


[18-Mar-20 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
darn.


[18-Mar-20 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ofc we could also just have the entire government dissolve and enter martial law


[18-Mar-20 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that option is not as outlandish as it was 3 months ago


[18-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can the senate jsut turn into a fist fight on live tv already?


[18-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wanna see mcconnell get punched


[18-Mar-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
> his sister wife
:nut:


[18-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taiwan-reports-8-new-virus-cases-widens-travel-warning

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Taiwan reports 8 new virus cases, widens travel warning
TAIPEI (REUTERS) - Taiwan reported eight new cases of coronavirus on Monday (March 16), its biggest daily rise, though all of them involved people who had arrived from overseas.. Read more at straitstimes.com.
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[18-Mar-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488111-dnc-calls-on-states-not-to-postpone-primaries

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DNC calls on states not to postpone primaries
The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is asking states not to postpone their primaries amid the coronavirus pandemic, but instead to take measures to make voting more safe and remote when possible.
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[18-Mar-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488121-mcconnell-wants-gop-deal-on-third-coronavirus-bill-before-negotiating-with

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McConnell wants GOP deal on third coronavirus bill before negotiati...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Republicans will work out a deal amongst themselves on a third coronavirus funding package before negotiating with Democr
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[18-Mar-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
500k people isn't voter suppression


[18-Mar-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Bernie not building a coalition


[18-Mar-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt mean that, i meant people not showing up in a pandemic


[18-Mar-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldn't be voter suppression, it would just be people staying home to avoid becoming ill


[18-Mar-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488073-mcconnell-rejects-remote-voting

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McConnell rejects remote voting
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday rejected the prospect of the chamber voting remotely in the event of a prolonged recess over the coronavirus.
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[18-Mar-20 12:55 AM] jlun2#8758
I guess he's going to have 4 more years right


[18-Mar-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that depends on a few things


[18-Mar-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like does he have covid-19 right now?


[18-Mar-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if so, he;s fucked


[18-Mar-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488129-opm-chief-abruptly-resigns-report

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OPM chief abruptly resigns
The head of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) abruptly resigned Tuesday, leaving a void atop a sprawling agency that oversees the federal workforce.
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[18-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>suddenly realizing you have real responsibilities


[18-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being one of the 15,000 Floridians breaking social distancing rules to go out and vote for Amy Klobuchar


[18-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I linked this in another server last night, a business owner there said that if we don't bail out big businesses with tens of thousands of employers, the economy will tank even harder https://i.redd.it/zc88qmp973n41.jpg

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[18-Mar-20 01:02 AM] jlun2#8758
"social distancing" sounds like an euphemism for something bad imo


[18-Mar-20 01:02 AM] jlun2#8758
because service jobs aren't "sexy" enough for politicians to rally about


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] jlun2#8758
unless there's some giant food worker lobby I never heard about


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden projected to win FL


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Around 60% of vote


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
makes sense


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Huge shock


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's boomerville and super conservative latinos


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look the retirement state voted for the old white conservative


[18-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are entire counties that forbid residents under 60


[18-Mar-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
dying coal jobs with several thousand employees == MAKE COAL GREAT AGAIN
dying resturants with several million jobs collectively == Sorry, it's capiltalism


[18-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow that's not really wrong


[18-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
what's wrong is denying individuals bailouts


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
that's what I said too, he said it was a waste of money because they don't contribute nearly as much to the economy


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16/heres-how-congress-can-help-defeat-the-wuhan-virus/

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https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16/heres-how-congress-can-help-defeat-the-wuhan-virus/
Here's How Congress Can Help Defeat The Wuhan Virus
Government can and should act, but it cannot do so with the recklessness that Pelosi and Mnuchin did late last week by rushing the legislation to a vote.
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[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big companies should burn


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
not enough oversight etc


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should have saved up


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Honahue#0656
>wuhan virus


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
>Wuhan virus


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>thefederalist


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck off


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought America had thier own strains already now


[18-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just link to breitbart, it's easier


[18-Mar-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
skip breitbart and just go straight to alex jones


[18-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
basically, because a few people might use the bailout money for hookers and blow, individuals don't deserve bailouts


[18-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
that was their reasoning


[18-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
well, not what they said exactly, but what they said was it was impossible to have proper oversight of what happens to bailout money if it were given to individuals


[18-Mar-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know, because corporations wont do that either...


[18-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
it's easier to maintain oversight of a few hundred big corporations than a few hundred million individuals


[18-Mar-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
um


[18-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly


[18-Mar-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
do they not understand how economics works then


[18-Mar-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if by oversight you mean overlooking everything they do wrong with the money, then sure


[18-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If hookers and dealers get money they use it for rent and food and TV


[18-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like hookers eat money


[18-Mar-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
first of all, "bailouts" would only really apply to individuals with debt anyway, and it would serve to reduce the amount of debt there is first and foremost


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
second, like mentioned here, it doesn't matter _what_ individuals are spending money on


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
they just have to be spending it and not hoarding it


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
> because end of the day an individual who didn't save some money for a rainy day won't fucking tank the economy and possibly destroy the country


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
direct quote from that business owner dude


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
uh...


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that save money are the bane of the economy


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yw btw


[18-Mar-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
are they... not aware that when lower income people don't get to save


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
when things dry up


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't spend anything


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
and lower income people actually drive the economy


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] my parents didn't know, and they have degrees so I wont be surprised if its not uncommon knowledge


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
> now if we talk about the bank bailouts of 2008, that is much different. lenders fucked up, and in turn fucked the economy, yet they still got bailed out. but it was probably a necessary "evil"


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
same dude


[18-Mar-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
is he a boomer


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Crow#5457
he's a business owner, so probably


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should've been lined against a wall and fed to the pigs


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Complete sociopaths the lot of them, playing craps with thousands of people's homes and retirements


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it is possible to both bail out banks and then put every single CEO responsible on trial for financial crimes


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
which is what should have been done


[18-Mar-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
but wasn't


[18-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
basically, in their mind, the chance that big business bailouts might save the economy outweighs the risk that the money doesn't actually go where it's supposed to and ends up ineffective


[18-Mar-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
companies that receive bailout money pocket the bailout


[18-Mar-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
how is that not _definitionally_ ineffective


[18-Mar-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
whereas individuals who receive government assistance spend that money almost immediately


[18-Mar-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] but trickle down :pee:


[18-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Honahue#0656
they're gonna try and prevent layoff cause of this and give them huge amounts of money and they will still lay off their workers and buy yachts


[18-Mar-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
how come companies never invest in automation except for tech companies


[18-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly there are stipulations on bailout money that the businesses that receive them can't lay off employees, but I haven't found any proof of that


[18-Mar-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[18-Mar-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf


[18-Mar-20 01:17 AM] jlun2#8758
if Amazon get a ton of cash, I can totally believe the CEO won't pocket it and spend it all on replacing the workers with robots.
If a large, older company gets a ton of cash I bet the CEO would just pocket it and layoff workers rather than invest in automating them and have 0 faith robots will ever replace any jobs there


[18-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51903947

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US airlines used up spare cash buying back shares
US airlines ask for $50bn in aid but figures reveal they spent most of their cash buying back shares.
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[18-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
so yea


[18-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
investing in advance checkout tech? nah


[18-Mar-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
buying back stocks and yachts? YES


[18-Mar-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
can tech companies pls kill them faster


[18-Mar-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking that sounds horribly inefficient. is that fake news?


[18-Mar-20 01:19 AM] Honahue#0656
there are weird accounting effects from automation of jobs, robots are counted as assets wage as liabilities and invetors can get wary if the rations are off and having too many assets can seem bad. It's all garbage but it's how investors look at things


[18-Mar-20 01:22 AM] jlun2#8758
"Thanks for giving us a head start!" ~tech ceo


[18-Mar-20 01:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/15/politics/trump-approval-rating-coronavirus/index.html

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What history says about crises, approval ratings and a President ru...
Poll of the week: A new CNN poll conducted by SSRS released this week finds that President Donald Trump's approval rating among voters stands at 45%. His disapproval rating is at 52%.
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[18-Mar-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
> In Tuesday’s call, the airline executives and members of Congress specifically discussed limiting executive bonuses and shares buybacks and protecting employees from layoffs or furloughs. They also discussed protecting collective bargaining and reversing any union concessions when the industry recovers. The airlines indicated that furloughs would be a last resort, according to a person familiar with the call, but unauthorized to discuss it publicly.


[18-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden wins Illinois


[18-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
man it's gonna suck when Biden wins but all the boomers that voted for him in the primaries die from Corona


[18-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
and Trump gets reelected


[18-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Moderate Democrats have a terrible track record with getting elected.


[18-Mar-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/689620034284290075/image0.png

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[18-Mar-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent


[18-Mar-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden might lose without his voters even dying, trump despite speaking at a 1st grade level, still speaks circles around biden


[18-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it doesn't really matter imo, Biden vs Trump is a Trump reelection


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Honahue#0656
even without a plague


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/zc1ZOe0

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While we were distracted
https://i.imgur.com/WpoLv7Lh.jpg


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
people vote for democrats in economic crises


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020/3/12/21174815/earn-it-act-encryption-killer-lindsay-graham-match-group

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A sneaky attempt to end encryption is worming its way through Congress
The EARN IT Act could give law enforcement officials the backdoor they have long wanted — unless tech companies come together to stop it
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[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Biden could still win


[18-Mar-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/senators-dispute-claim-that-section-230-revision-would-limit-encryption.html

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Senators dispute industry claims that a bill targeting tech's legal...
The EARN IT Act would tie legal immunity from third party content for online platforms to efforts to report child sexual abuse materials.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106187951-1571338123005rts2rlmk.jpg?v=1571338174


[18-Mar-20 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/great-neck-coronavirus.html thought I was reading a breitbart article for a moment

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Opinion | The Coronavirus Preys on Jews’ Biggest Strength
In the Persian Jewish community of Great Neck, N.Y., “social distancing is a wedding that only has 400 people.”
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[18-Mar-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/488011-trump-administration-eyes-checks-to-americans-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

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Trump administration eyes checks to Americans amid coronavirus outb...
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Tuesday that the Trump administration wants to send checks to Americans in the next two weeks in order to address the economic impact of the coronavirus outbreak.
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[18-Mar-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
```If hookers and dealers get money they use it for rent and food and TV
It's not like hookers eat money```


[18-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
I think you're onto something here. Precious few people understand this.


[18-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't typically matter what people spend their money on. Especially in services industry.


[18-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it all comes back around.


[18-Mar-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
I  blame the fact in my econ courses, it keeps treating goods as production and consumption, and not much on the growing service industry


[18-Mar-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
I assume other people's econ knowledge works similar (manufactoring centered, especially physical things rather than services)


[18-Mar-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
or maybe that's because I keep reading about politicians screaming about factory jobs idk


[18-Mar-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-index-reaction-dow-sp-500-rally-on-coronavirus-stimulus-2020-3-1029005861

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Dow rebounds 1,049 points as traders cheer Fed stimulus designed to...
US stocks rebounded on Tuesday, a day after the Dow Jones industrial average plunged by the most since 1987, marking its second-worst single-day...
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[18-Mar-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
they rebounded a little bit


[18-Mar-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the market is still down 25% from last month


[18-Mar-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488040-china-expels-us-journalists-from-ny-times-wall-street-journal-washington-post

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China expels US journalists from NY Times, Wall Street Journal, Was...
China announced Tuesday it is expelling U.S. journalists from The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post, the latest move in escalating tensions between Washington and Beijing over media coverage.
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[18-Mar-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump made it harder for Chinese journalists to enter the US so China ripostes


[18-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
conveniently enough it makes it even easier to pretend they defeated the virus.


[18-Mar-20 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Mar-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
truly smug marx


[18-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[18-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, if you look at the trending, there's a bunch of tiny bounce rebounds the past couple weeks


[18-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
they're called "dead cat bounces"


[18-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
basically a dead cat bouncing down a flight of stairs still jumps back up before hitting the next step


[18-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
you can see the bounces on that karl marx shitpost


[18-Mar-20 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
when you hyperventilate, you exhale and inhale until you pass out


[18-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
too much oxygen is bad


[18-Mar-20 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
99.99% of people that died breathed oxygen.


[18-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/FQQCxQuxSjQ?t=1769

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RandyPantheGoatBoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQCxQuxSjQ&start=1769
BBC Horizon 2004   Horizon Special   End Day
There's only one other copy of this on YouTube, and the quality sucks, and every other copy online is some website run by complete a-holes.  So, here it is.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FQQCxQuxSjQ/sddefault.jpg


[18-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What an interesting potential end of the world scenario, entertainment totally ha


[18-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well fuck you too I guess

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[18-Mar-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  
> Video unavailable
> This video contains content from BBC Studios, who has blocked it in your country on copyright ground


[18-Mar-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
oh nvm TSP posted too


[18-Mar-20 03:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
same here. wondering where it isn't blocked.


[18-Mar-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
big black cock studios


[18-Mar-20 03:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony US only sadly

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[18-Mar-20 03:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i see some green in Africa and south east Europe.


[18-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US and Somaliland.


[18-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and Kosovo


[18-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Almost reads like "countries that use imperial"


[18-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488158-biden-makes-direct-appeal-to-sanders-supporters-i-hear-you

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Biden makes appeal to Sanders supporters after latest wins: 'I hear...
Former Vice President Joe Biden made a direct appeal to Sen.
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[18-Mar-20 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
aka "Look I know I got backed into a corner but it was my idea all along"


[18-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/22350/the-young-turks-union-cenk-uygur-labor-organizing

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The Young Turks Union Fight Gets Nastier With Charges of Retaliator...
Working In These Times is dedicated to providing independent and incisive coverage of the labor movement and struggles for workers' rights.
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[18-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CompSocialSci/status/1236091350640201728

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Jeff Winchell (@CompSocialSci)
https://twitter.com/CompSocialSci/status/1236091350640201728
Candidate's Twitter followers don't differ much in the chance someone's tweets are negative.

New Update: Adds Microsoft's Deep Learning-based sentiment analysis algorithm. It predicts the chance of positive text. Textblob's algorithm rates tweets from -1 (neg) to 1 (pos).
Retweets
1513
Likes
3302
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Twitter


[18-Mar-20 04:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://preview.redd.it/81m6qb3iq9n41.jpg?width=640&height=702&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=14523f1a6d93079499a6549b6940b0bfdb7336a2

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[18-Mar-20 05:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will American stocks keep going down?


[18-Mar-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Probably


[18-Mar-20 05:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/XvzD65QcCr0

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MoistOwlette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvzD65QcCr0
Rick and Morty, *Click* Yes! Jerry's Story, M. Shyamal- ALIENS.
I do not own this Material, Go watch Rick an..*Burp* Morty for the Whole thing. OOO-WEE!
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[18-Mar-20 05:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
It's not just American thing tho


[18-Mar-20 05:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Corona and low oil prices affect everyone


[18-Mar-20 05:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've seen the comments in Alibaba finance forum, many ones saying it's the best opportunity to buy American stocks now


[18-Mar-20 06:00 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
It might be so but noone would guarantee it


[18-Mar-20 06:01 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Unless scientist is gonna make cheap Corona vaccine soon


[18-Mar-20 06:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway more and more guys posted their testament online these days


[18-Mar-20 06:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Not sure if they're joking or not


[18-Mar-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-moves-to-drop-charges-ira-russians-indicted-mueller-2020-3

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Justice Department moves to drop charges against Russians indicted ...
Notably, the DOJ decided to drop charges "in light of recent events and a change in ... the government's proof due to a classification determination."
https://i.insider.com/5de8ddd1fd9db2230722c4f9?width=1200&format=jpeg


[18-Mar-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
this sounds like the white house classified some of the evidence used to indict the russians specifically so they could drop the case


[18-Mar-20 06:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Mar-20 06:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually, Crow, it's less malice on the DOJ's part and more on the defendant's


[18-Mar-20 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
According to the AP article on that story, it was 'cause they almost-certainly leaked discovery material (after doctoring it, of course) to russian ~~propaganda~~ media, and coupled with no one in the US actually being able to be brought to justice in the case, they figured it'd do more harm than good to try and pursue this one further


[18-Mar-20 06:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if they do drop the case against the 13 individuals named, though, that's when I'll get back on the "barr is actively sabotaging things" train again


[18-Mar-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
per AP:
> “In short, Concord has demonstrated its intent to reap the benefits of the Court’s jurisdiction while positioning itself to evade any real obligations or responsibility,” prosecutors wrote. “It is no longer in the best interests of justice or the country’s national security to continue this prosecution.”
> 
> Concord Catering did not have attorneys appear in court, but prosecutors said they would seek to drop charges against that company as well because it too was controlled by Prigozhin and “based on the likelihood that its approach to litigation would be the same as Concord.”


[18-Mar-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr the crooks are committing so much crime here we can't risk holding the trial or we'll give up all our crime-fighting secrets. Scummy, yes


[18-Mar-20 06:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103

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[18-Mar-20 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fkjj9t/oc_known_covid_cases_per_million_residents_the/

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[18-Mar-20 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
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[18-Mar-20 09:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things may get interesting if we have strong tropical storms this year


[18-Mar-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mnuchin-us-unemployment-rate-could-rise-without-action-coronavirus-cnn-2020-3

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Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly said with the coronavir...
Based on the current US labor force, Mnuchin's projected unemployment rate equates more than 32 million Americans would be out of a job.
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[18-Mar-20 11:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit just got serious, Berlin's closed brothels


[18-Mar-20 12:02 PM] Opponent#3498
they're unironically worried, then.


[18-Mar-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1240171876695117824

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neil_ferguson (@neil_ferguson)
https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1240171876695117824
Sigh. Developed a slight dry but persistent cough yesterday and self isolated even though I felt fine. Then developed high fever at 4am today. There is a lot of COVID-19 in Westminster.
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[18-Mar-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's one of the top advisors on the virus response team in the UK government


[18-Mar-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Inspiring a lot of confidence in the system...


[18-Mar-20 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Euro stocks fairly down, US futures looking like another bleak day


[18-Mar-20 12:15 PM] Opponent#3498
welp.


[18-Mar-20 12:15 PM] Opponent#3498
we need a 'welp' emote I think.


[18-Mar-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need an emote of the panic ponies


[18-Mar-20 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
:hug:


[18-Mar-20 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
.p flower trio, adorable distress


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[18-Mar-20 01:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 01:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The full chart

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[18-Mar-20 01:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
From <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/28/jerk-liars-inexperienced-how-voters-describe-2020-candidates/>


[18-Mar-20 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
oil is down globally to 24.25


[18-Mar-20 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
crazy


[18-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
S&P futures hit limit down overnight


[18-Mar-20 02:15 PM] byte[]#2610
circuit breaker expected to trip this morning


[18-Mar-20 02:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
rip russian economy


[18-Mar-20 02:19 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
If you think Russia has it bad, think of Venezuela


[18-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us


[18-Mar-20 02:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
venezuela had it coming for years


[18-Mar-20 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ccn.com/dow-jones-in-freefall-as-wall-street-begs-for-stock-market-shutdown/

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Dow Jones in Freefall as Wall Street Begs for Stock Market Shutdown
Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) futures point to another disastrous stock market open as asset manager call for trading halt.
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[18-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Makes me wonder if I should buy some stock


[18-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Now that all is down


[18-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
> With the most volatility on record since the 1929 Great Depression, asset managers are now calling for a complete stock market closure. A shut-down came close in the UK this week after an emergency call with the Bank of England.


[18-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gonna keep going down


[18-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ye


[18-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only winners are day traders


[18-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they gonna go up but probably no this month


[18-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's a stressful fulltime job


[18-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ccn.com/as-facebook-shares-crash-over-30-now-isnt-the-time-to-buy/

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As Facebook Shares Crash Over 30%, Now Isn't the Time to Buy
We've seen some commentators advise that Facebook stock represents value in the current market. I'm going to detail why they are wrong.
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[18-Mar-20 02:39 PM] Crow#5457
facebook's going down down down


[18-Mar-20 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everythng is


[18-Mar-20 02:40 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I suppose so, no such thing as an easy score... not feeling like trying to buy some in the following days with the expectation of wins here in a year or two, but who knows... some people will certainly profit hard on it one way or another


[18-Mar-20 02:46 PM] byte[]#2610
It didn't trip immediately on open


[18-Mar-20 02:46 PM] byte[]#2610
But I bet it'll trip later today


[18-Mar-20 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We'll see when fucking Trump opens his mouth later


[18-Mar-20 03:04 PM] byte[]#2610
stocks gaining


[18-Mar-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So uh


[18-Mar-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/introducing-the-new-new-warriors

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Introducing the New 'New Warriors'
The classic team reunites to mentor a new generation of heroes!
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[18-Mar-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/LilithLovett/status/1240080036306141184?s=20

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☠️ Lilith Lovett ☠️ (@LilithLovett)
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The first non-binary superhero in Marvel and they named them SNOWFLAKE.

No, this is not fake.

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[18-Mar-20 03:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

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[18-Mar-20 03:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, this makes me sad for the enby people who are gonna have to deal with bigots using these characters to clown on them over and over


[18-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[18-Mar-20 03:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying really really hard for a niche they doesn't care about comics


[18-Mar-20 03:09 PM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised it's marvel pulling this shit though


[18-Mar-20 03:09 PM] Crow#5457
I thought it was DC comics that did random shit like this


[18-Mar-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it's just so cringe inducing


[18-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
well, maybe not now that I think of it, marvel did do that "hail hydra" captain america bullshit a few years ago


[18-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
so maybe it's not too surprising


[18-Mar-20 03:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It gives me flashbacks from the gamergate and anti-SJW hysteria era


[18-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[18-Mar-20 03:10 PM] PwnyPony#6185
When are they gonna make a remake of Striparella? Seriously Disney? Marvel?


[18-Mar-20 03:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Bro you just posted cringe


[18-Mar-20 03:11 PM] byte[]#2610
You are going to lose subscriber


[18-Mar-20 03:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like marvel comics has much subscriber anymore tho


[18-Mar-20 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I tried to care about comics, once


[18-Mar-20 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole "the continuity resets twice a year" thing is just really offputting


[18-Mar-20 03:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For these big deal characters ones, at least


[18-Mar-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know there are a few series and studios that try to either push out limited stories or stay on track (barring occasional AUs or whatifs)


[18-Mar-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But DC and Marvel are a fucking mess


[18-Mar-20 03:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/firm-uses-theranos-patents-to-sue-company-making-coronavirus-test/

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Firm wielding Theranos patents asks judge to block coronavirus test...
Legal expert calls it "the most tone-deaf IP suit in history."
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[18-Mar-20 03:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
PORKY
Sticks in an oar!


[18-Mar-20 03:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200317/04381644114/volunteers-3d-print-unobtainable-11000-valve-1-to-keep-covid-19-patients-alive-original-manufacturer-threatens-to-sue.shtml

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Volunteers 3D-Print Unobtainable $11,000 Valve For $1 To Keep Covid...
Techdirt has just written about the extraordinary legal action taken against a company producing Covid-19 tests. Sadly, it's not the only example of some individuals putting profits before people. Here's a story from Italy, which is...
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[18-Mar-20 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, corporations might actually get slapped down at this rate


[18-Mar-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
from the arstechnica article:
> Update: Facing an avalanche of bad publicity, Labrador announced on Tuesday that it would grant royalty-free licenses to companies developing COVID-19 tests. The company also claims it didn't know that BioFire was working on a coronavirus test when it filed its lawsuit last week. The company seems to be going forward with the lawsuit.


[18-Mar-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
why the update isn't right at the top, I have no fucking idea


[18-Mar-20 03:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The update doesn't mean anything


[18-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're still going to go after people for using the tech, they have to regardless of reason if they go after anyone for it, not just covid-19 tests


[18-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
it's a patent trolling company


[18-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At best they might delay until after it blows over


[18-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/softbank-owned-patent-troll-using-monkey-selfie-law-firm-sues-to-block-covid-19-testing-using-theranos-patents.shtml

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SoftBank Owned Patent Troll, Using Monkey Selfie Law Firm, Sues To ...
Honestly, I wasn't sure how to begin this story or how to fit all the insanity into the title. It's a story involving patents, patent trolling, Covid-19, Theranos, and even the company that brought us all WeWork: SoftBank. Oh, and also Irell...
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[18-Mar-20 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
a link from the beginning of the first techdirt article


[18-Mar-20 03:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, the sort that a judge might fucking destroy in court if it ever reaches them just because of this move


[18-Mar-20 03:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488164-trump-admin-to-begin-turning-back-all-undocumented-immigrants-asylum

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Trump admin to begin turning back all undocumented immigrants, asyl...
The Trump administration is reportedly planning to turn back all asylum-seekers at both the northern and southern borders over concerns regarding the coronavirus outbreak.
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[18-Mar-20 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good luck doing that


[18-Mar-20 03:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dummy


[18-Mar-20 03:37 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[18-Mar-20 03:37 PM] illumnious#7938
What a dumbass


[18-Mar-20 03:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Uh hun and what about your stupidass president you bitches worshiping https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland/status/1239980372974350336?s=21

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I am so tired of having to (along with my colleagues) do the job for the national press that has a staff!  I'd much rather lawsplain!  But someone needs to actually do journalism in this country and expose the lies of politicians! https://t.co/IM3cwgr4Ed
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[18-Mar-20 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks are all over the place

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[18-Mar-20 03:52 PM] byte[]#2610
will postpone predictions of circuit breaker trip until the president speaks


[18-Mar-20 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
you just get that feeling he'll walk back something positive and then say something fucking retarded and the markets will nope the fuck out


[18-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's gonna talk about dumping 1.2trillion USD to stop the fall


[18-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And probably some firm confirmation on bailing out the air travel industry


[18-Mar-20 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
dow's teetering on -6.6%, if Trump coughs during the brief I guess we hit another breaker


[18-Mar-20 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
I like how 📉 is now in my top 3 used emoji

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[18-Mar-20 04:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if discord has stats on emoji use over time


[18-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless you run a search  query on number of occurrences of the remote text against timestamps.


[18-Mar-20 04:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Search seems to only bring up when they're used as a message and not a reaction


[18-Mar-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah, I'm talking about reaction use across the entire service


[18-Mar-20 04:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh.


[18-Mar-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
and in terms of absolute frequency


[18-Mar-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
not relative like per server ordering or client ordering


[18-Mar-20 04:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend was the obvious

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[18-Mar-20 04:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Nothing new


[18-Mar-20 04:32 PM] illumnious#7938
And I wasn’t surprised at all


[18-Mar-20 04:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Useless fact: it rhymes.

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[18-Mar-20 04:32 PM] illumnious#7938
:twicrazy:


[18-Mar-20 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
snowflake and safespace? fucking christ...


[18-Mar-20 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah it's like a parody of ngc people by an anti-sjw


[18-Mar-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now i realize why i prefer image comics over marvel and dc...


[18-Mar-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
as long as it's not these guys


[18-Mar-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
.p artist:tim buckley


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[18-Mar-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
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[18-Mar-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
I did nazi this coming


[18-Mar-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-says-us-will-temporary-close-border-with-canada-2020-3

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Trump announces the US will temporarily close its border with Canad...
President Trump said trade would not be affected by the temporary closing of the US's border with Canada.
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[18-Mar-20 04:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah that's going to go over well


[18-Mar-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://prospect.org/economy/time-to-nationalize-the-airlines/

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It’s Time to Nationalize the Airlines
America’s most consumer-abusing and environment-degrading industry wants us to bail it out. Instead, we should take it over.
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[18-Mar-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[18-Mar-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816501871/poll-as-coronavirus-spreads-fewer-americans-see-pandemic-as-a-real-threat

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Poll: As Coronavirus Spreads, Fewer Americans See Pandemic As A Rea...
Less than half are making the recommended changes such as eating from home more often or canceling plans to avoid large crowds, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.
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[18-Mar-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
Well boomers, it's your fault if you die then


[18-Mar-20 05:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminds me of an interview NPR themselves did with someone where they just flat out said, "it's all political"


[18-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
> One might think, with all that extra profit wrung out of thin air and little competition to speak of, the airlines would be in strong shape to weather an exogenous crisis, something like a global pandemic that zaps travel and forces temporary cutbacks in seat purchases and flights. But that is not what has happened. Between 2014 and 2020, in an attempt to boost its earnings per share, American spent more than $15 billion buying back its own stock. The company managed not only to spend down its cash reserves in a stock-buying spree, but it simultaneously engorged itself on cheap loans. It now has debt obligations of nearly $30 billion, almost five times its current market value. And while American was the most egregious of the airline behemoths, it certainly wasn’t the only one: Over the past ten years, the biggest U.S. airlines spent an unfathomable 96 percent of free cash flow on buying back their own shares.


[18-Mar-20 05:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which represents a whole new level of danger in today's social climate that I'll say was first described by Jean Baudrillard back during the first Golf War, that which is one the news is more real than real.


[18-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I'm not seeing why these fucks deserve a bailout


[18-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
they basically destroyed their own ability to handle emergencies to appease their shareholders


[18-Mar-20 05:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course what also happened on top of this is that the consolidation of the news media /industry/ has accelerated the process of poisoning political discourse in general into two heavily split right-wing ideological camps. Which when compared to the post-modern condition described by Baudrillard makes things extra potent.


[18-Mar-20 05:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
If nothing is more real than what we get from our media of choice, then it doesn't matter. Fox, CNN, and MSNBC have more power in determining our own realities than reality itself.


[18-Mar-20 05:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Even ESPN really


[18-Mar-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-pushes-back-against-aspects-coronavirus-sick-leave-bill-2020-3

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Leaked McDonalds recording shows the company is fighting against pa...
McDonald's is pushing for changes to a coronavirus relief bill that would require restaurants across the US to give workers paid sick leave
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[18-Mar-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
>trump picture


[18-Mar-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
?


[18-Mar-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[18-Mar-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
> The airline industry has become another cautionary tale of the pitfalls of deregulation, the result of extremely misguided policy set loose over decades. Air travel wasn’t always like that. In its early days, between 1937 and 1978, air travel was treated as a public utility. The Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) managed domestic flights and was responsible for establishing schedules, fares, and routes. But in 1978, under the guidance of the Jimmy Carter administration, the industry was deregulated, in the name of increasing competition and driving down prices.


[18-Mar-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
wow, a neoliberal thing that can be blamed on carter instead of reagan


[18-Mar-20 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Carter was the petri dish that blossomed into Reagan


[18-Mar-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually the petri dish was Nixon imo


[18-Mar-20 05:14 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Mar-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/politics/mcconnell-judges-republicans.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/politics/mcconnell-judges-republicans.html
McConnell Has a Request for Veteran Federal Judges: Please Quit
The Senate majority leader has encouraged judges thinking about stepping down to do so soon to ensure that Republicans confirm their replacements this year.
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[18-Mar-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how about you quit first, you cheap sack of shit


[18-Mar-20 05:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
DOW at -6.86%...


[18-Mar-20 05:32 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[18-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
no hard stop though, so that's something.


[18-Mar-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
circuit breaker is tied to SPY


[18-Mar-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
not DJIA


[18-Mar-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
but yeah


[18-Mar-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp/


[18-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
dropping fast


[18-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
it is close to tripping again


[18-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
another 20 minutes or so at current pace


[18-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
-6.94


[18-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hit


[18-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
curbed


[18-Mar-20 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ty Trump, gj


[18-Mar-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
fourth time in two weeks


[18-Mar-20 05:58 PM] byte[]#2610
think they'll do it again tomorrow?


[18-Mar-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tomorrow it'll go back up a bit


[18-Mar-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna be that way for a while I guess


[18-Mar-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
oil is down to $22 brent


[18-Mar-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
wonder when that will translate to lower prices at the pump


[18-Mar-20 06:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/investing/stocks-erase-trump-gains/index.html

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The entire Trump stock rally is gone: Dow erases all its gains sinc...
The Trump stock rally, which at its peak a month ago was robust and seemingly unending, has completely evaporated.
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[18-Mar-20 06:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-5-satellites-launch-abort.html


[18-Mar-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
trading resumed


[18-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not stopped the trend


[18-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Eurovision cancelled


[18-Mar-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if there's another picture of that guy with the crazy hair


[18-Mar-20 06:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Peter+Tuchman&t=brave&ia=images&iax=images


[18-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
dropped another whole %pt


[18-Mar-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
-8.14


[18-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dow at -9.10, heck


[18-Mar-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Might see them hit that second breaker


[18-Mar-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
phew that is a steep drop


[18-Mar-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
SPY dropped another %pt


[18-Mar-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
-9.14


[18-Mar-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg's revenge


[18-Mar-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
dow ate shit


[18-Mar-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
down 10%

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[18-Mar-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 07:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 07:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what


[18-Mar-20 07:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I tried to figure out what this group is and I turned up this article from the end of January https://wgntv.com/news/cpd-searching-for-2-armed-men-who-threatened-police-in-viral-video/

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CPD searching for 2 armed men who threatened police in viral video
CHICAGO — A video posted on social media shows two armed men threatening to shoot and kill Chicago police officers. Supt. Eddie Johnson on Friday said he takes all threats very seriously. The video…
https://wgntv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/01/armed-man-video.jpeg?w=640


[18-Mar-20 07:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
answer: pro-trump thin blue liners


[18-Mar-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
The police are arresting Sanders in that picture for protesting racism


[18-Mar-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Either it's the most tone deaf image ever or the creators are racist


[18-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, they're pro trump thin blue liners


[18-Mar-20 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
There's your answer


[18-Mar-20 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Socialism is a weasel word now


[18-Mar-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I feel old for thinking the same as those american snow


[18-Mar-20 08:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1240360452644691968?s=21


[18-Mar-20 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Mar-20 08:41 PM] illumnious#7938
I love this account


[18-Mar-20 08:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Holy shit tho https://twitter.com/m_buckholz/status/1240362565814890499?s=21

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https://twitter.com/m_buckholz/status/1240362565814890499?s=21
@illumnious_ @BrandonBeckham_ @TIME @realDonaldTrump You have no logical reasons as to why.  Sit down
Twitter


[18-Mar-20 08:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
@Raptorshy


[18-Mar-20 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Wtf


[18-Mar-20 09:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[18-Mar-20 09:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Wankers too afraid to put a dildo in their ass.


[18-Mar-20 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Raptorshy  ^


[18-Mar-20 09:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"You can always find an upside, even in bad"


[18-Mar-20 09:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/herschelwalker/status/1240317386059853825?s=21

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Herschel Walker (@HerschelWalker)
https://twitter.com/herschelwalker/status/1240317386059853825?s=21
Let's keep the faith! Just spoke with @realDonaldTrump 
,@IvankaTrump and members of @FitnessGov Council. @POTUS keeps leading against this hidden threat. Follow @CDCgov guidance and we can be Champions at defeating COVID-19. Let's get creative in ways to stay #TogetherApart
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[18-Mar-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488313-fox-news-tweets-for-first-time-since-2018

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Fox News tweets for first time since 2018
Fox News on Wednesday tweeted for the first time since 2018.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/foxnews_072619gn_lead.jpg


[18-Mar-20 09:54 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[18-Mar-20 09:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[18-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a silent boycott because of the Tucker Carlson thing that happened


[18-Mar-20 10:09 PM] illumnious#7938
Geeez


[18-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488325-cdc-data-show-coronavirus-poses-serious-risk-for-younger-people

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CDC analysis shows coronavirus poses serious risk for younger people
Early data analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that younger Americans are at substantial risk of experiencing serious medical problems from the coronavirus sweeping the globe. That data runs
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/us_coronavirus_1204066779getty.jpg


[18-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"...at least one in seven and perhaps as many as one in five people between the ages of 20 and 44 who contract the virus require hospitalization, a level exponentially higher than hospitalization rates for something like influenza."


[18-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"See guys? It's not just a #BoomerRemover."


[18-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trust us, you ungrateful little shits!"


[18-Mar-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
why do boomers even have kids anyways tbh if they hate them so much


[18-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
cause they did it 40-25 years ago when that was what you were supposed to do


[18-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah you see it a lot in the humor they have


[18-Mar-20 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.axios.com/bernie-sanders-suspends-facebook-ads-2020-election-8d888649-55fb-4358-a6e6-cac09584bac8.html

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Bernie Sanders suspends his 2020 campaign Facebook ads
In the past, it's been a sign that candidates are dropping out.
https://images.axios.com/fHnGtJvUm2DI3BJhftmSQPXYn9k=/2020/03/18/1584546751188.jpg


[18-Mar-20 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
Trump 2020


[18-Mar-20 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
Trump 2020


[18-Mar-20 10:43 PM] ononim#8141
Trump 2020


[18-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
aw.


[18-Mar-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/7C3G5OV.png

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We dying again?
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[18-Mar-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Mar-20 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
||https://twitter.com/SamEdwardd/status/1240080109857619968||


[18-Mar-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's what low information voting does to you


[18-Mar-20 11:14 PM] ononim#8141
warning footage of death and australian war crimes


[18-Mar-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/nyse-to-temporarily-close-trading-floor-move-to-electronic-trading-because-of-coronavirus.html

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NYSE to temporarily close floor, move to electronic trading after p...
The closure was in part as a result of positive coronavirus tests of two people, Stacey Cunningham, President of the NYSE, told CNBC.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106450700-1584564536448gettyimages-1207623336.jpeg?v=1584564719


[18-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No tears.


[18-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only dreams.


[18-Mar-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Should have done this years ago


[18-Mar-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
GS revises oil to $20 Brent


[18-Mar-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
will this finally collapse US shale


[18-Mar-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
or will it bankrupt the saudis first


[18-Mar-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-nyc-subway-ridership-craters-amid-coronavirus-mta-seeks-bailout-2020-3

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New York City's subway ridership fell 60% because of the coronaviru...
Commuter rail into the US's largest city also dropped as much as 90% as the virus shuts down businesses and schools.
https://i.insider.com/5e72812bc48540331b7c90e2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[18-Mar-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/senate-passes-emergency-coronavirus-package-with-paid-sick-leave-2020-3-1029010392

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Senate passes emergency coronavirus package with paid sick leave, s...
The Senate on Wednesday passed emergency measures to cushion the financial pain caused by the coronavirus pandemic. The COVID-19 outbreak has tr...
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[18-Mar-20 11:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the turtle probably gagged anyway


[18-Mar-20 11:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, literally, bile rose in his throat as he considered having to pass this


[18-Mar-20 11:47 PM] jlun2#8758
do people even use the phyiscal trade floor


[18-Mar-20 11:47 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought stock markets were mostly automated already


[18-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/trigg3rh4ppydos/status/1240328969775468544?s=21

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Did...

Did the Trump administration just ask gamers to rise up? https://t.co/pEegkiZUls
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[18-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GAMERS


[18-Mar-20 11:56 PM] illumnious#7938
STOP


[19-Mar-20 12:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/fkpmnj/lets_never_forget_that_trump_and_fox_news_started/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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r/politics - Let’s Never Forget That Trump and Fox News Started as ...
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[19-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488349-sanders-when-asked-about-timeframe-for-2020-decision-im-dealing-with-a-f-ing

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Sanders when asked about timeframe for 2020 decision: 'I'm dealing ...
Sen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_031720getty.jpg


[19-Mar-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
> Same - she’s a different person since she retired to Florida. The boomers have been self-isolating down there for years together and they’ve almost all joined the Trump train. My mom has gone from loathing Trump to being sure she’s always supported him. At least she’s finally isolating from other retirees, unlike all their pickleball playing friends.

> I grew up in South Florida during the 80s, and trump was known in my household during that time as an adulterous sleezeball con-artist. Now the gaslighting has been turned up to 11, and no one remembers any of that. It’s so surreal.
boomer hivemind is real you can't hide from me :derpchrys::derpchrys::derpchrys::derpchrys:


[19-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.newsweek.com/yellowstone-volcano-uplift-magma-intrusion-1491992

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Unusual uplift at Yellowstone volcano was caused by magma rising up...
Researchers say the intrusion may explain the increased number of explosions at the Steamboat Geyser.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1573432/norris-geyser-basin.jpg


[19-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its been way overdue


[19-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i would not be surprised if it erupted


[19-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
that would be a very Sanders thing to do.


[19-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
damn, we really don't deserve him.


[19-Mar-20 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as I can tell our fate was sealed years ago


[19-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that Sanders is in the Senate right now.


[19-Mar-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
everything else has been reality catching up with that


[19-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it is the 11th hour.


[19-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's not doing shit right now.


[19-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to remember about Sanders, he DOES HIS JOB


[19-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy went up thru local gov't before making it federal and he was all over shit.


[19-Mar-20 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yes, Sanders is in the Senate...but unless we actually do see Biden, McConnell, Trump, Barr, and Murdoch drop dead, I feel like it's not going to get through to anyone anymore


[19-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most politicians aren't like that, they rely on making big speeches and not actually doing shit.


[19-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The senate just passed paid sikk leave


[19-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is calling for temporary UBI


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes. Why wouldn't that boost Trump's support?


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is right now


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pushes Biden left too


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are so under pressure


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're agreeing with Bernie.


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie btw is known for writing whole parts of bills.


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it hyperbole to say this is worse than 9/11


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without his name being put on.


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will kill more americans


[19-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it will hurt more of the economy


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
it has already crippled the airline industry


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
In every measurable way this is worse than 9/11


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you consider per time


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
like, 9/11 was a few hours


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is taking weeks


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But at peak, this will even beat that.


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine 300 9/11s in a row, @Itsthinking


[19-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of them overlapping in the middle.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
9/11 has happened and you gotta deal with it.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm definitely not taking "republicans are forced to do the right thing" as a silver lining because, like Biden, the plan appears to be to try to abandon everything they're being forced to do right now the moment the curve on infected americans starts trending down


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
this _is happening_. It's in progress.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Planes were already flying again by this point


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
and who knows how it turns out.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony legislative principles.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is harder to remove something than to giv it.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once americans hav paid sikk leave and hav been told it's a good idea


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't remove it.


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not anymore, it would seem


[19-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You lose reelection doing that.


[19-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking 9/11 took out flights for a day. This will take out the majority of flights until...October, probably.


[19-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically 9/11 was a sledgehammer into a wall suddenly.


[19-Mar-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the bulldozer taking out half the house.


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans aren't going to let go of a "temporary" UBI


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not an economic stimulus check, it's a consistent UBI


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except I'm watching them being told right now, to their face, that it is only temporary


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or that it should be


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the grand lie in the Senate.


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That something is temporary.


[19-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It almost never is.


[19-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way a temporary thing dies is if it's a constant renewal program and eventually shit hits a fan during a renewal.


[19-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see Patriot Act)


[19-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even that takes decades.


[19-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
@IAmADeliciousPotato there's a problem with running a logistic regression on specifically US numbers, as well as before the slope is 1.


[19-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike other countries, most in the US won't get tested when they get symptoms.


[19-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The initial numbers are mainly wealthier people who traveled abroad and brought the virus home, testing them was compulsory etc.


[19-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later numbers however are from people actively seeking testing, which selects for only the wealthier ones while the virus goes on to infect all kinds of communities, lowering the numbers.


[19-Mar-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the slope, things are pretty definite and sorted out by the time it hits the point of inflection, but *prior* to that, changes to how people move etc. can hav drastic impacts on the rate of infection.


[19-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you should look at is running the new numbers again today and seeing if you get the same regression.


[19-Mar-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it looks *worse*, then the expectation should be that testing's been inaccurate and that it'll get much worse.


[19-Mar-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it looks the same or better, then it's probably about accurate (somehow, unlikely)


[19-Mar-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for UBI, I do want to know how if it does become permanent, it won't just get swallowed by inflation


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd take decades for inflation to dent it.


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
By that time, people would be used to it and demand it rise with inflation.


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe I used the wrong term


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I am looking at the new numbers


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm thinking more like gold rush economies


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I agree; the numbers before are severe lowballs


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think people initially were slouching on testing


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And also note that people came in from Europe


[19-Mar-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
"slouching"


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I got the virus today I could not get tested.


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where if everyone's got a thousand bucks, guaranteed, then why not get rid of the idea of loss-leader pricing?


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
COULD not, not WOULD not.


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And this is where the incubation period starts ending


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
(for people coming in from Europe)


[19-Mar-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony you're assuming landlords etc. aren't already charging based on complete BS rather than what's affordable.


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The worry isn't new travelers.


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
In other words; 17,939 is the wrong number; I will keep putting in numbers and see what new curve results


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, I'm making that assumption


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The worry is community spread.


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the question is why shouldn't that trend continue


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Note that I put in yesterday's numbers and they were ridiculous


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rent control is slowly happening.


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
L jumped to a number BEYOND THE US POPULATION


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's the thing


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some people say a third of the US population will get it


[19-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah fukkin' right only a third.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are terrible at hygiene.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So basically, there's two different curves and it would be a bad idea to run a regression on both


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers will spread this shit everywhere.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Note: L was *10^71* when I tried regression


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
US numbers will probably be 40% of the US population, similar to worldwide.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So basically fuck America for slouching on testing


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And I gotta try this again


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American healthcare system is so much worse than you realize.


[19-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note btw


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I get my healthcare from a clinic that charges a flat rate until shit gets really expensive


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The curve of Spain and Italy so far have been far more sane


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No insane jumps


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's better than like 95% of Americans get access to.


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably due to better healthcare


[19-Mar-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm the lukky one and I only go in if I'm like about to die.


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basic math says that, for some people I know


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would be cheaper for them to fly to my town


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then go to the clinic I use


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
and fly bakk


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
than to go to their local doctor.


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are of course likely closer places to head to.


[19-Mar-20 12:37 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So yeah
America's healthcare is ass and politicians would rather pay for a bailout of 80 bazillion for big corporation #2000 instead of universal healthcare


[19-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
This might be the thing that breaks the camel's bakk


[19-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we could get actual like, riots instead of protests on the capital.


[19-Mar-20 12:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I'm digressing
Basically 18,000 is wrong; I'll keep running numbers; Screw US healthcare; I still think this thing will only last 1 more month based on Europe


[19-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still probably just a few molotovs lobbed in the direction of lobbyists, but eh.


[19-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahahahhaha


[19-Mar-20 12:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Italy's curve didn't change shape after I added in today


[19-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy is in full lokkdown.


[19-Mar-20 12:39 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And Spain didn't either


[19-Mar-20 12:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Before today's surge in corona, US's curve was headed towards 30 or so more days too


[19-Mar-20 12:40 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's why I still *think* so


[19-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The more likely reality is that the confirmed cases are somewhere between a tenth and a fiftieth of those who actually hav it.


[19-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike upwards of half in other countries.


[19-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are seeing in the US many people actively mokk the idea of taking it seriously until they're told to self-isolate after contact with someone.


[19-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder not to bring the GOP if ever evacuating the planet.


[19-Mar-20 12:42 AM] jlun2#8758
They don't, they just bring their neoliberal econ ideas like a cancer


[19-Mar-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
then mars becomes earth 2.0 and we repeat for venus


[19-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the likely reason testing jumped, Potato, is the debates.


[19-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both Biden and Bernie promised testing would be paid for.


[19-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reiterating what the director of the CDC said


[19-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's actually been legislated yet.


[19-Mar-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But a lot of people right now are just not paying the hospital and relying on that promise.


[19-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> But a lot of people right now are just not paying the hospital and relying on that promise.
they're going to get fucked once GOP prevents that from happening


[19-Mar-20 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the sane decision though.


[19-Mar-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what would kill the GOP super hard.


[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they go into November being the party that dillydalled and fukked over a third of the population


[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents vote against them in droves.


[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
re: the guy, that's fair enough


[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
live fast, die young.


[19-Mar-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
> Independents vote against them in droves
time to summon the christian boomers to vote back


[19-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
A twentieth of Christian Boomers will be dead.


[19-Mar-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
is that enough


[19-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ezekiel 5:12


[19-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supposedly btw, the bill putting in coronavirus-related paid sikk leave includes free testing


[19-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but I can't find any details


[19-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably gonna be a shitshow.


[19-Mar-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6201/text

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[19-Mar-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
found it directly on the congress site


[19-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I think I see what they fukking did


[19-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They made it free if you aren't completely uninsured.


[19-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's free if you've got insurance, including medicaid, medicare, etc.


[19-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're completely uninsured, this doesn't apply.


[19-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just preventing the usual BS where you need to do copays.


[19-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/488358-movie-theaters-ask-for-bailout-after-closing-during-coronavirus-crisis

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Movie theaters ask for bailout after closing during coronavirus crisis
The movie theater industry is asking Congress and the Trump administration for a bailout as theaters across the country face shutdowns in response to the coronavirus outbreak.
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[19-Mar-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make it stop


[19-Mar-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I refuse to believe they've barely been scraping by on popcorn sales


[19-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Karmadose#6969
it gets a little more believable considering how popular stuff like netflix and youtube have gotten as the average persons go-to media entertainment


[19-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Karmadose#6969
everywhere is getting hit hard by the pandemic, it just sucks all around


[19-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Millennials raise axe of indifference to inefficient service*
*Boomers prop it up just barely*
*Virus that kills Boomers dead comes along, Boomers retreat, leaving inefficient services dying*
THE FREE MARKET :glowing_eyes:


[19-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/latino/488362-ice-pausing-most-immigration-enforcement-during-coronavirus-crisis

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Immigration authorities will halt most enforcement across the U.S., shifting efforts to deport only foreign nationals who have committed crimes or pose a threat to public safety, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said Wednesday.
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[19-Mar-20 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Is 1/20th of dead christian boomers enough


[19-Mar-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would swing elections in several states.


[19-Mar-20 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
would it be soon enough, though? They've kinda made it seem like we're saddled with Biden


[19-Mar-20 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which means Trump


[19-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Karmadose#6969
Chances are not likely unfortunately imo


[19-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Karmadose#6969
pray that enough people hate trump that they'l carry biden's team


[19-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people still prefer Biden over Trump.


[19-Mar-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if he's not ideal.


[19-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
So wait


[19-Mar-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Is the corporate playbook now "steal as much money as possible for CEOs, don't pay workers, destroy the environment, then make puppy dog eyes at the government when shit hits the fan"


[19-Mar-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it works, doesn't it?


[19-Mar-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Seems to


[19-Mar-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
There are projections that oil could fall all the way to $0 brent


[19-Mar-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Zero?


[19-Mar-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
FREE OIL? :glowing_eyes:


[19-Mar-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[19-Mar-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Not only free, but the suppliers will pay to have it retrieved


[19-Mar-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Due to massive surpluses

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[19-Mar-20 03:18 AM] jlun2#8758
Finally,  a realistic picture


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[19-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
🦀


[19-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
wonder what was the last pitfall.


[19-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for England (not the UK) to get treated like a post-Communist Yugoslav state when they rejoin the EU in ten years


[19-Mar-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No, your passports WILL be burgundy. And you ARE adopting the Euro."


[19-Mar-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe if they don't get huge VAT carveouts they'll actually realize that VAT is horrifically regressive and retarded.


[19-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, the UK got like, exceptions for children's clothing that other countries didn't get.


[19-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to maybe not make it as brutally regressive as it normally is.


[19-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Straight up make the EU indivisible.


[19-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No leaving.


[19-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>he doesn't want a 20% tax on consumer goods


[19-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no I've been discovered, the Ayn Randian economists are coming for me.


[19-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously the reason VAT exists is to make it easier to detect fraud.


[19-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The funniest part is that Rand got Social Security benefits


[19-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it creates incentive to report sales to the gov't constantly.


[19-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rand was a dumb PTSD addled bourgoisie who got famous writing her fanfiction


[19-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, people will cheer on a terrorist


[19-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's otherwise the same as US sales tax except done in a weird way that disincentivizes creating wealth in the supply chain yet incentivizes people to be middlemen.


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[19-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you familiar with VAT?


[19-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Heard of it but not sure how it works


[19-Mar-20 04:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Value Added Tax :trixdisgust:


[19-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is every time you buy something, a certain percent tax goes to the gov't, BUT when you're the seller, you get to skim from what would go to the gov't and take it to cover your tax on buying.


[19-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means that you're strongly encouraged to resell whatever you buy.


[19-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So businesses in the supply chain never really feel the tax except that it increases the cost to those below.


[19-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the chain eventually ends at the end consumer, who gets shafted.


[19-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, it's a sales tax that middlemen are exempt from.


[19-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is this in every place but the US despite sounding worse than a sales tax?


[19-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It fights the blakk market.


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Black markets exist because producers aren't doing well enough.


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, you're no longer effectively exempt if you don't disclose your sales.


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but this is a patch sort of deal


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it allows for gov'ts to put LOTS of businesspeople in jail


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
all while the general public is taxed to shit


[19-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the dream of capitalists.


[19-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
A tax that forces people to be small businesses that stay in line with society or be crushed like a peasant.


[19-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't wants to tax businesses and arbitrarily arrest people for bad dealing. The businesses want to be tax free, and in fact funded by milking the consumers.


[19-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
VAT allows both to be happy.


[19-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taxing businesses, but making consumers foot the bill, with a giant paper trail that would make accountants cream themselves.


[19-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
VAT is pretty much the nightmare the GOP wants to make you think Dems are trying to do whenever they mess with taxes.


[19-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
(while in reality it's absolutely what they'd implement if they ever got the chance)


[19-Mar-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
"Brazil will be the next Italy" https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e7262e2c5b63c3b64894052

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Denial and conspiracy theories from President Jair Bolsonaro are endangering millions of vulnerable citizens — and the economy.
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[19-Mar-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that while the EU does great things with borders (among members, anyways), it's still ultimately a tool for capitalists to crank up GDP numbers without addressing the actual issues.


[19-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess we're gonna get our answers about warm weather killing off the virus soon...


[19-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
57 C will kill it. Just gotta move to parts of the Sahara and wait for noon in July.


[19-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few mirrors should help.


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it spreading in Singapore?


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's everywhere, Its.


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hot weather doesn't kill it


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it's not in Antarctica yet.


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But everywhere else.


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it does, it will come back like how the 1918 flu did


[19-Mar-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It died out in summer but came back worse in the fall


[19-Mar-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, it doesn't look like there's a climate it doesn't like besides "freezing your ass off"


[19-Mar-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
and even then, it's likely not in Antarctica simply because of lack of carriers.


[19-Mar-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
One scientist on rotation and bam.


[19-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remote Pacific islands


[19-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed that we've not depopulated those


[19-Mar-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
How would we depopulate them?


[19-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I figured people would be afraid of a combination of climate change and declining populations


[19-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and just leave


[19-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahahha


[19-Mar-20 04:32 AM] jlun2#8758
> and just leave
people stay in far off rural areas with 0 job opportunities for their entire lives and vote Republican to make it worse, so I don't expect that to happen


[19-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, I'mma be real for a second.


[19-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know Organ Trail?


[19-Mar-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is entirely accurate on how humans behave in regards to habitation.


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, the situation on Nauru


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, in Organ Trail


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can go to the irradiated areas


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_Trail> and not a typo right?


[19-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
where you like, die after a few weeks


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes not a typo.


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Australia goes "Let us have a concentration camp for refugees or you get no insulin"


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you will find


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
settlements


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because zombie apocalypse wasn't bad enuff


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
gotta liv WHERE RADIATION KILLS YOU FOR SURE IN A MONTH


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's realistic.


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the only realistic part of the game.


[19-Mar-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how humans actually behave.


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actual Oregon Trail becomes easy when you read the encyclopedia, especially how you handle a snake bite


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Humans don't leave.


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Hey John, why are these tomatoes twice the size in this area?"
"Dunno, but it's rad!"


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way you get humans to leave an area is by either killing them, or telling them to at gunpoint.


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where did the myth of radiation making things mutate stronger come from


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing else.


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Comic books?


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It kills everything.


[19-Mar-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[19-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just remember, we still have hurricane season ahead of us


[19-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Honahue#0656
there were attempts in like the 60's to irradate crops and through shear numbers end up with a benificial mutation


[19-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the more realistic episodes of TNG btw


[19-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some sludge monster lawyer aliens call up


[19-Mar-20 04:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking it's quite gruesome too <https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2009/01/11/books/book-reviews/learning-life-lessons-in-83-days-of-death/>


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They say humans are living on a planet that was gifted to them


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_gardening

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Atomic gardening is a form of mutation breeding where plants are exposed to radioactive sources, typically cobalt-60, in order to generate mutations, some of which have turned out to be useful.
The practice of plant irradiation has resulted in the development of over 2000 new ...
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[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Picard's like "...we gave them that planet cause it's impossible for humans to live there tho"


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Already knew that was about Ouchi @jlun2


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The pic of him as he was about to die is one of the most gruesome things


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they send Data, the only member of the crew able to survive on the planet, to go chekk things out.


[19-Mar-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, Data has to shoot a town's only source of water


[19-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and tells them point blank the lawyer alien sludge monsters will not be so kind.


[19-Mar-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
> "Hey John, why are these tomatoes twice the size in this area?"
> "Dunno, but it's rad!"

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[19-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Data committed ecoterrorism


[19-Mar-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, it's the most believable of the "lost human colony" plots TNG has.


[19-Mar-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue wait how the hell  did that get public approval but not crispr, which is much saner?


[19-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
the 50's


[19-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
atomic stuff was mega cool then


[19-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Radiation is natural, remember.


[19-Mar-20 04:39 AM] Honahue#0656
they still do it just not as much


[19-Mar-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
wdym, atomic gardening is very popular


[19-Mar-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it helps organic farmers generate yields without GM


[19-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, if you look at where humans settle


[19-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and how people respond to being told "you will die if you stay here"


[19-Mar-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pattern is basically humans are FUNGUS


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We infest every nook and cranny and if something doesn't forcibly remove us we stay there.


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] want to try organic farm with an xray laser


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/682837738931879937


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Refugees tend to be the most capable of the worst-off people only.


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 you joke but that's what they do


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
😄


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also most refugees are male and young.


[19-Mar-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
they irradiate the shit out of seeds and breed the ones that generate the highest yield


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Males feel less attached to family/friends and younger people are less attached to things.


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The elderly and females rarely leave an area.


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless forced.


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(usually by young males)


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
I meant more like precision change genes with an xray laser to get more desirable traits. or do they already do that?


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
that's genetic engineering


[19-Mar-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
banned in organic farming


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] jlun2#8758
even with radiation? rip


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So @Itsthinking, do you get the deal with pacific islanders now?


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, people in floodplains in Louisiana


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
people in literal shitholes anywhere


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think anyone does something like that, the DNA is all wrapped up when it's in the nucleus


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It unwraps for cell division.


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Honahue#0656
floodplanes are like where 90% of humanity settle,


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] jlun2#8758
> usually by young males
then we get tons of fake news articles about rapists and thieves


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Radiation only affects dividing cells greatly.


[19-Mar-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, in tribal societies


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
those young males are warriors of hostile tribes carrying women home as prizes


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
in more modern societies, the young males are husbands dragging their wives along as they flee.


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but I wouldn't want to live on an island where I get fresh vegetables once a month


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
First off many hav no choice


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
moving is expensive.


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very expensive.


[19-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, I know that


[19-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Second off, many of these people know nothing else.


[19-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The island is their life.


[19-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
To leave it is like dying.


[19-Mar-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was just stating my opinion. And rising ocean levels might come for their island


[19-Mar-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
is it legal for organic farming to at least hire a geneticist to look at the genes without modifying them?


[19-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your opinion makes no sense.


[19-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't analyze the actions of a man on a pacific island by thinking about what he should do based on sitting in your armchair.


[19-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to think of what you'd do on the pacific island.


[19-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
depending on the plant many of them are clones, you can't grow an apple tree from an apple you get at a store


[19-Mar-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Aren't most of them heavily dependent on Australia and the US for their existence?


[19-Mar-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must analyze someone's positions by imagining their foundations instead of your own.


[19-Mar-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[19-Mar-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it's a fragile position. Your life is based on how much money/supplies Canberra/Washington/Wellington want to give you


[19-Mar-20 04:48 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and they have a pretty long tradition of reneging on them too


[19-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Honahue#0656
been more than a few "as long as grass grows and the sun rises" treaties sign with Amerindians that didn't last that long


[19-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, they always provide tons of supplies.


[19-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pacific is extremely important strategically.


[19-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you live on a glorified aircraft carrier.


[19-Mar-20 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
iirc there's very few native plants even on Hawaii anymore


[19-Mar-20 04:51 AM] Honahue#0656
and in the case of Hawaii a glorified aircraft carrier is about right it mostly exists as a Navy haror


[19-Mar-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tourism is more valuable, so even non-native stuff goes


[19-Mar-20 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
and more than a few natives are of the opinion that they were strong armed into becoming a US state and they aren't wrong either


[19-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that's a better life than most people in history got.


[19-Mar-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

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Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳.
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[19-Mar-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
this didn't age well


[19-Mar-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
I love the people calling it "Wuhan Health Organization" and "Chinese Health Organization" etc in the replies though


[19-Mar-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon , seeing here that stock futures for US indices hit limit down for after hours trading


[19-Mar-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
expect another large drop tomorrow


[19-Mar-20 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1240354158051504129

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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1240354158051504129
Pelosi's Deputy Chief of Staff is saying that a proposal for giving American's direct financial relief was shot down because it would be universal and not means tested
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[19-Mar-20 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I could only get behind that if "most in need" meant "not in the 1%"


[19-Mar-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is absolutely gonna be like, "if you're not employed you get nothing"


[19-Mar-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where "employed" means working over 35 hours a week.


[19-Mar-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Where the shit is this means testing nonsense coming from


[19-Mar-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile unemployment statistics consider that person employed etc.


[19-Mar-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't care if someone who has $1B gets an extra $1000 check


[19-Mar-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but if giving him that check means someone who is homeless can also get $1000


[19-Mar-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is almost certainly conservatives saying that poor unemployed people shouldn't get money.


[19-Mar-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a life saver


[19-Mar-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pelosi is not a liberal.


[19-Mar-20 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's absolutely a political play - and the only way I can see for it to be at all with any sort of "for the democratic base" mentality in mind is to make sure it's not political ammo against her if a Warren-esque "wealth tax" goes through. Like how dare she give them a thousand bucks and then demand ten thousand back


[19-Mar-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's nonsense, so my only conclusion is that it's completely removed from that sort of thinking entirely


[19-Mar-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Twitter is gay


[19-Mar-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I checked and it didn't hit limit down


[19-Mar-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
but it is still a substantial loss

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[19-Mar-20 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/

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24 Hour Stock Market and Forex Data - After-Hours Trading - CNNMone...
Coverage of post-market trading including futures information for the S&P, Nasdaq and NYSE.


[19-Mar-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
CNN needs to change their business logo so that little green triangle is red and pointing down


[19-Mar-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wouldn't want to be accused of being fake news, would they


[19-Mar-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
S&P after hours value is declining


[19-Mar-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
if it hits 5% down, after hours trading will be curbed


[19-Mar-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it's at 4.11% down now, declining from 4ish earlier


[19-Mar-20 06:45 AM] Cloudy#3004
https://twitter.com/VitoGesualdi/status/1240103236465340416?s=19

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Marvel Comics just announced two new non-binary superheroes named "Snowflake" and "Safespace."

I wish I was making this up.
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[19-Mar-20 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I almost think this was done intentionally to try to upset the typical people.


[19-Mar-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know they can't help but make 50 YouTube videos about this, and Marvel knows that.


[19-Mar-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Dude, the rest of it is as outrageous as it could possibly be


[19-Mar-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, "internet gas?"


[19-Mar-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it's bait.


[19-Mar-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
thos beans


[19-Mar-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Marvel isn't dumb. They know how people react to what they do. They knew what this would do. The reaction was intended.


[19-Mar-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They want to upset the kind of people who made 50 videos about Captain Marvel.


[19-Mar-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Watch them pull an 80s transformer movie and kill off this entire cast immediately before the plot gets underway


[19-Mar-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
is this even politics


[19-Mar-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it's more like :bad_bait:


[19-Mar-20 06:50 AM] Cloudy#3004
idk


[19-Mar-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fishing pole


[19-Mar-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
it's mario hanging off a fishhook


[19-Mar-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
bad_bait


[19-Mar-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
:bad_bait:


[19-Mar-20 06:51 AM] Cloudy#3004
looks like digdug pumping some poor sap up


[19-Mar-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
S&P no longer declining


[19-Mar-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
probably won't hit LD tonight


[19-Mar-20 07:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
It has all day tomorrow to decline :twismug:


[19-Mar-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
markets aren't taking the news of the ECB stimulus very well


[19-Mar-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's recession time


[19-Mar-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Mar-20 09:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bloomberg-staffers-losing-health-benefits-during-pandemic-2020-3

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[19-Mar-20 09:51 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like a class-action tbh


[19-Mar-20 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/dab59e2b436dc63ace0b0711bc7b61e3

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Trump calls himself 'wartime president' as he battles virus
WASHINGTON (AP) — Describing himself as a “wartime president” fighting an invisible enemy, President Donald Trump invoked rarely used emergency powers to marshal critical medical supplies against...
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[19-Mar-20 10:41 AM] Opponent#3498
and they didn't even have to repeat 9/11


[19-Mar-20 10:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
who needs 911 when you can have mass shootings every week


[19-Mar-20 10:51 AM] Opponent#3498
something commonplace doesn't get you reelected; a shock does.


[19-Mar-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d568e933729232c2518b07773bc94ad0

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Olympic leaders back IOC's Tokyo stance after rare criticism
GENEVA (AP) — Regional Olympic officials are rallying around the IOC and have backed its stance on opening the Tokyo Games as scheduled, as direct criticism from gold medalist athletes built amid...
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[19-Mar-20 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
well they're hoping it will blow over 4 months from now


[19-Mar-20 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not that unrealistic.


[19-Mar-20 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, if it doesn't, rip


[19-Mar-20 11:37 AM] Opponent#3498
what results with the extreme concentration of people would be really awful.


[19-Mar-20 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, yeah, I didn't think of that - the training and organisation would go on all the way through, and that's not a good thing.


[19-Mar-20 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
well, when was the last time Olympics got cancelled? WW2?


[19-Mar-20 11:42 AM] Opponent#3498
don't think they want to break that record


[19-Mar-20 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPk1HIBLfM

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Anatomy of a Viral Lie
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Since January 22, Donald Trump has been lying to America about COVID-19. He did so even as the number of cases spread, healthcare professionals raised the alarm, and other countries experienced the coronavirus pandemic.

Trump di...
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[19-Mar-20 11:49 AM] illumnious#7938
Dow briefly wipes out gains under Trump's presidency https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/dow-wipes-out-gains-under-trumps-presidency-still-slightly-positive-since-his-election.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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The Dow's drop pushed the index below the level where it closed on Jan. 19, 2017, the day before Trump took office.
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[19-Mar-20 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's going to go down again today


[19-Mar-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
it'll probably have another uptick at the end of the week again, but it'll have a huge drop next week again


[19-Mar-20 11:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not just the games themselves


[19-Mar-20 11:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the athletes, many can't train


[19-Mar-20 11:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not properly, anyway


[19-Mar-20 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Mar-20 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a neat filter


[19-Mar-20 01:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.facebook.com/CBSMiami/videos/902617230172917


[19-Mar-20 01:27 PM] Opponent#3498
'I've just turned 21', looks like 30+, good times.


[19-Mar-20 01:32 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Yes, yesterday when I got home... I live on a closed condominium and there's a park/garden on it and there were like 10 to 15 young children have picnic with a handful of parents along all having fun and all.


[19-Mar-20 01:32 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Why the hell school classes were dismissed then? if you just gonna leave the children altogether in the same place either ways


[19-Mar-20 01:33 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:spitsmh:


[19-Mar-20 01:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/world/middleeast/egypt-black-sarcophagus-opened.html

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Inside That Black Sarcophagus in Egypt? 3 Mummies (and No Curses)
A sarcophagus found in a pit in Alexandria last week was opened after much speculation over who, or what, was inside.
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[19-Mar-20 01:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
From 2018


[19-Mar-20 01:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Mar-20 01:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:xd:


[19-Mar-20 01:38 PM] Opponent#3498
```Why the hell school classes were dismissed then? ```
15 is still better than hundreds.


[19-Mar-20 01:50 PM] Opponent#3498
that's the difference. Even morons who do something like this are _much_ less dangerous than regular public gatherings.


[19-Mar-20 01:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
If there's that few and live in the same building they may already know each other so probably know who or doesn't or does have COVID-19


[19-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
While I don't disagree it still bothers me... @AaronMk Not really, Corona is like a Flu... there is incubation period you think you're fine but you're not and you're already contagious


[19-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Nobody knows when or how they caught it until they really start thinking back at the point symptoms starts appearing


[19-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's enough to get in an elevator 10 minutes after someone that coughed in was in


[19-Mar-20 01:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Win is in all caps https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1240622747732127746?s=21

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[19-Mar-20 01:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Alll fucking caps


[19-Mar-20 01:58 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
inb4 *Better late than never*


[19-Mar-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an acronym. Wither from Incredible Negligence.


[19-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us


[19-Mar-20 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488325-cdc-data-show-coronavirus-poses-serious-risk-for-younger-people

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CDC analysis shows coronavirus poses serious risk for younger people
Early data analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that younger Americans are at substantial risk of experiencing serious medical problems from the coronavirus sweeping the globe.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/us_coronavirus_1204066779getty.jpg


[19-Mar-20 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
it's not just a flu


[19-Mar-20 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
> A new CDC analysis of more than 2,400 cases of COVID-19 that have occurred in the United States in the last month shows that between 1 in 7 and 1 in 5 people between the ages of 20 and 44 in the sample of those who are confirmed cases require hospitalization, a level significantly higher than the hospitalization rates for influenza. The true percentage of young people who require hospitalization is likely much less, because many remain asymptomatic.


[19-Mar-20 02:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Tell that to those trumpist assholes


[19-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/gop-senator-no-more-than-3-4-of-our-population-may-die.html

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GOP Senator Upbeat Coronavirus May Kill ‘No More Than 3.4% of Our P...
Ron Johnson is bad at both statistics and comforting people.
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[19-Mar-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> I’m not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be, and how it’s obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population
> 
> But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this. But we don’t shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It’s a risk we accept so we can move about. We don’t shut down our economies because tens of thousands of people die from the common flu, getting coronavirus is not a death sentence except for maybe no more than 3.4 percent of our population (and) I think probably far less.


[19-Mar-20 02:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Somebody with this cough on him please.


[19-Mar-20 04:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article241209366.html


[19-Mar-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/politics/tulsi-gabbard-ends-2020-campaign/index.html

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Tulsi Gabbard ends 2020 campaign and endorses Joe Biden
Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard on Thursday ended her presidential campaign and endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden.
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[19-Mar-20 04:14 PM] byte[]#2610
No longer present


[19-Mar-20 04:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Mar-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus christ why can't Trump talk like a normal person


[19-Mar-20 04:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like a 6 year old talking about his day in school


[19-Mar-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is he on about now?


[19-Mar-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
drug testing, or not doing testing rather


[19-Mar-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also started the briefing whining about the chinese virus and how unfair it was on the economy what the chinese did


[19-Mar-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[19-Mar-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://wcti12.com/news/local/town-of-williamston-issues-state-of-emergency in other news, my town has begun lockdown

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Town of Williamston issues state of emergency
The Town of Williamston is under a state of emergency until further notice due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The Martin County town announced the declaration on Wednesday, and officials say their goal is to keep both residents and visitors safe as the novel coronavirus continues t...
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[19-Mar-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now he's just listing drug companies and prducts and praising how amazing and great and exciting they are


[19-Mar-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do they have anything to do with anything?


[19-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not really


[19-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're drugs that "maybe" could help against the virus because they helped with arthritis


[19-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or something


[19-Mar-20 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's impossible to follow what he says given all the loop arounds and all the interjections to praise himself and the economy every 5 words


[19-Mar-20 04:57 PM] jlun2#8758
> CDC analysis shows coronavirus poses serious risk for younger people
The boomers strike back


[19-Mar-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-treatments-vaccine-jj-regeneron-gilead-2020-2 i think trump is on about this but doesnt knwo what the fuck he;s talking about

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The US is sprinting to develop a coronavirus vaccine or treatment. ...
The coronavirus pandemic has infected more than 220,000 people across the world. J&J, Gilead, and Regeneron are researching possible treatments.
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[19-Mar-20 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Apparently in Iran they're finding 2/3 of cases also delete people's ability to smell, at least for a short time


[19-Mar-20 05:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
So if you wake up some day and can't smell anything, you got Corona


[19-Mar-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds terrible


[19-Mar-20 05:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Welp my state has finally decreted closure to commerce for a week now in order to prevent the spreading


[19-Mar-20 05:16 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
What does that mean to me? Nothing but that now I don't have a place to lunch during work :x


[19-Mar-20 05:22 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I don't trust American pharma to make that affordable at all


[19-Mar-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me either


[19-Mar-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Mar-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Mar-20 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
@AaronMk not being able to smell is a sign of likely dying soon.


[19-Mar-20 05:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So I'd expect that's something from just the severity of the body getting messed up, not an early sign.


[19-Mar-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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communism (9) 

[19-Mar-20 06:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Since when we got this emote?


[19-Mar-20 06:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Weeks ago maybe a month.


[19-Mar-20 06:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/17/tiktok-tried-to-filter-out-videos-from-ugly-poor-or-disabled-users

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TikTok 'tried to filter out videos from ugly, poor or disabled users'
Documents from the Incercept show social media app put pressure on moderators
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[19-Mar-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry bro but no uggos allowed


[19-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/488470-trump-says-government-could-take-equity-in-bailed-out-companies

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Trump says government could take equity in bailed-out companies
President Trump said Thursday that he supports the federal government taking an ownership stake in corporations seeking financial support as they struggle to stay afloat during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_031920getty.jpg


[19-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nationalization of anyone who gets a bailout


[19-Mar-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Microbiology textbook, 2009 https://i.redd.it/whe13ywz6jn41.jpg

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[19-Mar-20 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More deaths in Italy than in China


[19-Mar-20 07:36 PM] Opponent#3498
they're simply reported better.


[19-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I _really_ wouldn't put it past China to completely fabricate stats about something like this.


[19-Mar-20 07:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially now that there's no outside reporting to mess up their narrative, like there was a couple months in after what was literally coming out of china wasn't matching what officials there told the WHO


[19-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/488497-candy-industry-calls-for-500-million-in-federal

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Candy industry calls for $500 million in federal assistance
The National Confectioners Association (NCA) called on the White House and Congress on Thursday to establish a recovery fund of $500 million to pay employees, maintain overhead expenses and meet existing financial obligations to support the candy
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/candy06102015getty.jpg


[19-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Please stop


[19-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Franchising, manufacturing, restaurant, airline, liquor, and travel industries have already asked


[19-Mar-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> candy industry
MAKE DIABETES 2 GREAT AGAIN


[19-Mar-20 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So when an average Joe takes a financial hit and can't pay an unexpected bill, they're a loser and deserve to go to the poorhouse to pay off debt or die


[19-Mar-20 08:29 PM] jlun2#8758
speaking of which, all my diabetes searches now give coronavirus results as well. huh.


[19-Mar-20 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When a corporation cooks the books and doesn't save a penny gets hit with an unexpected bill, they ask for free money and cry fake tears about the workers


[19-Mar-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
think of the wallets!


[19-Mar-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Those poor empty wallets not funneling money into my personal... I mean our businesses' bank account!


[19-Mar-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488502-photo-of-trumps-notes-shows-chinese-virus-written-over-coronavirus

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Photo of Trump's notes shows 'Chinese virus' written over 'coronavi...
A photo of President Trump’s notes for his Thursday press briefing with the coronavirus task force show that “Corona” was crossed out and replaced with “Chinese.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_hahnstephen_03192020getty.jpg


[19-Mar-20 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Comical


[19-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Honahue#0656
he's ot to make sure it's China's fault and then place sanctions or something on them to convise people he's done something


[19-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Honahue#0656
he's going to constantly refer to it as Chinese virus at every address he gives


[19-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fox is already playing along


[19-Mar-20 09:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
gamestop is staying open


[19-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doom Eternal and Animal Crossing are out tomorrow


[19-Mar-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
30% of their revenue for the year is going to come from those two


[19-Mar-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really convenient year for Nintendo to have nothing but Animal Crossing


[19-Mar-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again they are making Wii/Wii U era mistakes again because they're successful


[19-Mar-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://sports.yahoo.com/olympics-ioc-athletes-japan-2020-coronavirus-concerns-050938495.html

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Report: Olympic athletes bewildered by IOC's lack of coronavirus co...
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[19-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
nope


[19-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think sony lost


[19-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
plus Microsoft


[19-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
nintendo is doing good right now


[19-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and animal crossing is just a appetizer


[19-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a good one


[19-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
plus all the big third parties


[19-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.google.com/search?q=hasbro+stock+price&rlz=1C1NDCM_enUS690US690&oq=hasbro+s&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j35i39j0l4j46.2105j1j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


[19-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
is the stock even worth it?


[19-Mar-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
don't buy individual stocks ffs


[19-Mar-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
buy index funds


[19-Mar-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
and probably don't buy anything right now, market is too volatile


[19-Mar-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
crashed hard on monday and crashed again yesterday


[19-Mar-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This weird flip flopping of the best console between Sony and Microsoft every gen tho


[19-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
MS has had the best console every generation


[19-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just not the best exclusive deals


[19-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
debatable


[19-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
xbox one had less sales than ps4


[19-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[19-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's still a better console


[19-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just didn't have certain high profile games that Sony capitalized on


[19-Mar-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And MS still hasn't made the slightest inroad into Japan


[19-Mar-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't think they ever will.


[19-Mar-20 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Eventually they'll just buy every japanese developer they can


[19-Mar-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sony might have an issue with how Western-centric they are though


[19-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
TLOU, Spider-Man, etc.


[19-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But also Final Fantasy 7 remake so


[19-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just put a ton of anime games on the Xbox


[19-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They tried that with the 360, didn't work.


[19-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then get Japanese people hooked on Minecraft.


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll take a while, but eventually the kids will grow up.


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kind of happened, but now they're just making their own games with Minecraft design points in them.


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just get an Illusion Soft game on there


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Load up the library with waifu sims and visual novels


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minecraft waifu sims DLC.


[19-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of how the team who made BoTW apparently was much younger than typical dev teams at Nintendo and was heavily inspired by Minecraft


[19-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, Undertale


[19-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Undertale and Minecraft are probably the two biggest Western games ever in Japan


[19-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course they would need cherry trees to really sell it.


[19-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minecraft was supposed to get cherry trees ages ago but then nope.


[19-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Minecraft with a story


[19-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Please tell me you've heard of Minecraft Story Mode


[19-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
We do not speak of such evil.


[19-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously that game is like, American babby's first telltale game but with a blokky asthetic.


[19-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally something where I'm pretty sure they aimed so low in ages that they accidentally went negative.


[19-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I legit thought Story Mode was just the game itself, but with a half-assed plot attached to it


[19-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, preschoolers even require some actual humor and adult stuff to be interested.


[19-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And then I actually saw footage of it


[19-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you only hav characters who are unkillable and go around making faces and nothing happens, preschoolers lose interest.


[19-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*Who thought that was a good idea*


[19-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC I think Oswalt thought it was crap but did it for his kid


[19-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't wanna ruin your day


[19-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's not far off what Minecraft machinema is like


[19-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Technically you can lose in that game. Like, two times in the story.


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oswalt could have just run a Minecraft PvP server with that TrainCarts mod and his kid would have loved that too lol


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's practically an entire generation that was raised on Minecraft


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but the problem is they took Minecraft machinima, removed all the goals and tension and uncertainty, then called it a game.


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As their entertainment, social, education


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And also... porn

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[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Minecraft Machinima, without the machinima


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of what keeps machinima series' audiences when the goals and such are low is witty funny dialog


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need people basically constantly joking around as they do stuff


[19-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
See: Yogscast.


[19-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minecraft Story Mode's dialog is like Dr. Seuss without rhyming or weirdness.


[19-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I did run into an artist some time ago that did MC-styled porn


[19-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone just states the obvious.


[19-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Not the weirdest fap I've had but still pretty good


[19-Mar-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the writers for Bluey had done it it'd probably actually be okay.


[19-Mar-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, the writers for Dora the Explorer could've made it passable


[19-Mar-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead they had writing on par with the Hello Pinkie Pie shorts Hasbro's done a few times.


[19-Mar-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://kotaku.com/gamestop-we-can-stay-open-during-lockdowns-because-wer-1842415962

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[19-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> [Gamestop] is “essential retail” alongside groceries and pharmacies


[19-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, if gamers don't get their cawadoody, they die.


[19-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gamestop's gotta prevent the riots.


[19-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep the squeakers from throwing molotovs.


[19-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, you can mock them, but if they keep more people off the streets and glued permanently to their screens, it helps with containment. The only question is about the crowds during the opening


[19-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
same logic as behind free porn premiums for Italy


[19-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> pron premiums
Did i miss something?


[19-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
that was a thing linked... somewhere, not too long ago. Pornhub offered free premiums for basicly the entire country.


[19-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I've never followed up on it but it makes sense.


[19-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ah, ok, Boring site anyway.


[19-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At this point Pornhub should just rebrand to IncestHub


[19-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As a wise man once said


[19-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It isn't incest porn if you put it on mute"


[19-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
PseudoIncestCenter


[19-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/19/europe/spain-coronavirus-madrid-covid-intl/index.html

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In Madrid, 80% of people expected to get COVID-19, official says
Eight out of ten people in the Spanish capital will get COVID-19, according to the president of the Region of Madrid, Isabel Díaz Ayuso.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200316120909-spain-grocery-store-spacing-super-tease.jpg


[19-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oof


[19-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Already basically pushing back every plan I had for this year at least two months


[19-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting typo

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[19-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bar exam still happening?


[19-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Up in the air at this point.


[19-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not exactly a good idea to have 500+ people together in a confined space for eight hours a day for two days


[19-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd expect a "no" on that front.


[19-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I am expecting that, yeah.


[19-Mar-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0373a78b0aacc49d1f6bd8901c8ccc67

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McConnell plan: $1,200 payments; $1T rescue takes shape
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell proposed direct payments of $1,200 per person and $2,400 for couples as part of a sweeping Republican response to the coronavirus ...
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[19-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
>tiptoes towards [removing] voting


[19-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
did your vote mean anything to begin with?


[19-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
congress doesn't listen to public opinion


[19-Mar-20 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
statistically, no.


[20-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
> Under the GOP leader’s plan, the aid would be phased out at income thresholds of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 per couple. Additionally, there would be $500 payments for each child.


[20-Mar-20 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
wow, that is surprisingly liberal


[20-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
wait, am I misreading that?


[20-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
is it saying that you have to be below $75k/$150k to qualify, or do you have to be making at least $75k/$150k to qualify?


[20-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably below with that wording.


[20-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to worry about is the phasing out is likely gradual.


[20-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means that even at $30k you might be getting very little aid.


[20-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These emergency cash handouts never work as intended. People just pay their bills off and don't buy luxuries


[20-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which helps, but isn't what the government wants.


[20-Mar-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Wow it's almost like we have a problem with abusive creditors or something


[20-Mar-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Gee


[20-Mar-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Who knew


[20-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pro-publica-burr-dumped-millions-stock-reassuring-public-coronavirus-preparedness

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This article was originally published by ProPublica. ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up for ProPublica’s Big Story newsletter...
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[20-Mar-20 01:33 AM] illumnious#7938
> america


[20-Mar-20 01:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
People in government should have their investments monitored for the public good.


[20-Mar-20 01:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://abc7.com/politics/newsom-5625-of-californians-are-expected-to-be-infected-with-covid-19/6028718/

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Coronavirus: Newsom says 56% of Californians are expected to be inf...
Officials predict that about 56% of California's population - 25.5 million people - will be infected with the novel coronavirus within the next eight weeks, Gov. Gavin Newsom said.
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[20-Mar-20 02:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
KTVs, feasts and comic cons are allowed to open now in China except in Wuhan


[20-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. Either they go all in on denial, or they did actually get a handle on it.


[20-Mar-20 02:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Tianfu Bronycon 2020 is settled this summer


[20-Mar-20 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
well, if ground zero is clean-ish, maybe this will blow over sooner than expected


[20-Mar-20 02:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But Summer Furrycon of China just bankrupted

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[20-Mar-20 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
F


[20-Mar-20 02:07 AM] illumnious#7938
F


[20-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
F


[20-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does anyone ever dress up as Chairman Meow


[20-Mar-20 02:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You mean Chairman Mao?


[20-Mar-20 02:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How to "dress up" as him


[20-Mar-20 02:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He meant meow.
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.639975662.4521/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.u4.jpg

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[20-Mar-20 02:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well... Never seen this before


[20-Mar-20 02:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But I like it


[20-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean now wanting to kill all the sparrows finally makes sense.


[20-Mar-20 02:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Killing sparrows?


[20-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign

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Four Pests Campaign
The Four Pests Campaign (Chinese: 除四害; pinyin: Chú Sì Hài), was one of the first actions taken in the Great Leap Forward in China from 1958 to 1962. The four pests to be eliminated were rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows. The extermination of sparrows is also known as Smash...
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[20-Mar-20 02:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You mean “killing the four pests” movement?


[20-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[20-Mar-20 02:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah


[20-Mar-20 02:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only mentioned once as a word in my history textbook


[20-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488569-nationwide-changes-needed-to-make-election-coronavirus-ready-could-hit-2

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Nationwide changes needed to make election coronavirus-ready could ...
Costs for the federal government to make it safe for voters to participate in the general election could add up to $2 billion, should the coronavirus still be a concern in November, a new study by an independent think tank shows.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/supertuesdayvoting2_030320getty.jpg


[20-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We already have had so many primaries postponed, the general election being postponed would not surprise me.


[20-Mar-20 02:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[20-Mar-20 02:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This is the history book I've used in the high school final exam


[20-Mar-20 02:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It brought up so many painful memories


[20-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many pages is it


[20-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690232180466647060/690378123576999956/7ctdfsewoon41.jpg

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[20-Mar-20 02:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Itsthinking 10 books for the five high school years. more than a hundred pages for each book


[20-Mar-20 03:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And it's written in Chinese characters, which take much smaller room than other languages


[20-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it must go back thousands of years huh


[20-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
and evidently mostly contain irrelevant stuff


[20-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
unsuprising.


[20-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/california-governor-issues-statewide-order-to-stay-at-home-effective-thursday-evening.html

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California Governor issues statewide order to 'stay at home' effect...
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[20-Mar-20 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/davecporter/status/1238183623624396802

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Really proud of whoever fixed the memory leak in the S&P over the last few weeks!
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[20-Mar-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Louis Rossmann on why airlines should file for Chapter 11 <https://youtu.be/JdGNoHg_Na0>


[20-Mar-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
(and certain fallacious counterarguments are wrong)


[20-Mar-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1240678538350678016

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The Washington Post (@washingtonpost)
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1240678538350678016
It is unclear whether Americans — who built this country on ideals of independence and individual rights — would be willing to endure such harsh restrictions on their lives for months, let alone for a year or more.
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[20-Mar-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kotaku.com/white-house-doctor-we-need-millennials-to-stay-healthy-1842401810

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White House Doctor: We Need Millennials To Stay Healthy Because The...
During today’s White House press conference the Trump administration’s Coronavirus Task Force response coordinator, Dr. Deborah Birx, called on millenials to take the threat of infection more seriously. Why? Because they are “part of that group that brought us innovation, part...
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[20-Mar-20 09:35 AM] byte[]#2610
If you want millenials to stay healthy, how about stop killing them?

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[20-Mar-20 09:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhNOuDYKkzM&feature=youtu.be&t=770 it;s real

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Trump, White House Coronavirus Task Force Hold News Conference | NB...
President Donald Trump and the White House coronavirus task force hold a press briefing as COVID-19 spreads, impacting markets and daily life across the U.S. and abroad.
» Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
» Watch more NBC video: http://bit.ly/MoreNBCNews...
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[20-Mar-20 09:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought it was satire for a moment


[20-Mar-20 09:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rise up gamers and speedrun the coronavirus!


[20-Mar-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
big gains for stonks this morning

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[20-Mar-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
which means it'll crash on monday of course


[20-Mar-20 09:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump gets to autograph another screencap of it though!


[20-Mar-20 09:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the next press briefing, trump will bring out the autographed stock image and say that stocks havent gone down because the image on this paper hasnt moved at all

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[20-Mar-20 09:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/11/814550474/missouri-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-for-selling-fake-coronavirus-cure

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Missouri Sues Televangelist Jim Bakker For Selling Fake Coronavirus...
The Missouri attorney general asked a judge to block the sale of Bakker's "Silver Solution." The FDA and FTC warned seven companies to stop hawking so-called treatments for the coronavirus.
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[20-Mar-20 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sad it took them a pandemic to do something


[20-Mar-20 10:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stock-sales-gop-senators-coronavirus_n_5e741524c5b63c3b648d8374

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At Least 2 GOP Senators Dumped Millions In Stock After Coronavirus ...
Sens. Richard Burr and Kelly Loeffler reportedly made dozens of stock trades shortly after private health briefings for Congress began in January.
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[20-Mar-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what a smart person would do.


[20-Mar-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
if you have insider info, _use it_.


[20-Mar-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
the age of captains going down with the ship is long gone.


[20-Mar-20 11:24 AM] Opponent#3498
if indeed there was such a time.


[20-Mar-20 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope someone's collecting all these for the next time people rant about socialism and empty shelves...

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[20-Mar-20 12:12 PM] Opponent#3498
the government issued aid so it's clearly socialism.


[20-Mar-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the aid hasnt been given out yet


[20-Mar-20 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-tucker-carlson-demands-richard-burr-resignation-insider-trading-2020-3

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'He must resign from the Senate': Fox News host demands Richard Bur...
"There is no greater moral crime than betraying your country in a time of crisis," the Fox News host Tucker Carlson said.
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[20-Mar-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
you cannot betray something you never served to begin with


[20-Mar-20 03:06 PM] nova bellfire#2446
trump wants socialism and a secular society impeach him vote for sanders!


[20-Mar-20 03:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/chunk-yellowstone-size-chicago-has-been-pulsing/

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A chunk of Yellowstone the size of Chicago has been pulsing. Why?
An injection of magma under Norris Geyser Basin may be why the region is five inches higher today than it was 20 years ago.
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[20-Mar-20 03:49 PM] Cloudy#3004
imagine posting a link that requires me to need a subscription to read


[20-Mar-20 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/19/former-un-ambassador-nikki-haley-resigns-from-boeing-board-opposing-government-aid.html

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Former UN ambassador Nikki Haley resigns from Boeing board, opposin...
Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley stepped down from Boeing's board, saying she opposed government aid for the company as it battles coronavirus.
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[20-Mar-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Mar-20 05:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1241037693150167044?s=21

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Saint Hoax (@SaintHoax)
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1241037693150167044?s=21
Mimi has spoken #Covid_19 https://t.co/EttSLJ8hIp
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[20-Mar-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
some losses for stonks today

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[20-Mar-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
📉


[20-Mar-20 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498
```The company said in a filing that Haley is against the company receiving government aid "as a matter of philosophical principle." ```


[20-Mar-20 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you gotta respect ancaps that are willing to die for their cause, figuratively or literally.


[20-Mar-20 06:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Meanwhile in the break room all the tables have been spread out to about six feet between each


[20-Mar-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/446461592029630464

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It's almost like the United States has no President - we are a rudderless ship heading for a major disaster. Good luck everyone!
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[20-Mar-20 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Well he regretting that tweet


[20-Mar-20 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Also https://twitter.com/joemuto/status/446463162322518017?s=21

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Tweeting from Home Indefinitely (@JoeMuto)
https://twitter.com/joemuto/status/446463162322518017?s=21
@realDonaldTrump The answer is clear: you must step in and run yourself. Only a Trump presidency can lead America to a new golden age.
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[20-Mar-20 06:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-almost-tweeted-that-tom-hanks-died-from-covid-19-2020-3

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Trump was reportedly saved from tweeting Tom Hanks had died from co...
President Donald Trump is said to have almost tweeted that Tom Hanks had died after seeing reports the actor had been 'discharged' from the hospital.
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[20-Mar-20 06:31 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[20-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
he died in his heart, that's what matters most


[20-Mar-20 06:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Tom Hanks is dead. They just replaced him with a robot to stop a mass panic.


[20-Mar-20 06:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Okay and.. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1230892457442914304?s=21

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1230892457442914304?s=21
Bloomberg is trolling Trump with billboards where Trump's campaigning this week. The billboards read things like:
"Donald Trump cheats at golf"
"Donald Trump eats burnt steak"
"Donald Trump lost the popular vote" 
"Donald Trump went broke running a casino"
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[20-Mar-20 06:36 PM] illumnious#7938
What the hell is your point?


[20-Mar-20 06:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think his point is, Bloomberg is just as childish when it comes to trying to dish dirt


[20-Mar-20 06:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Hmm


[20-Mar-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/0kuiaqaiftn41.jpg social democracy*

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[20-Mar-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B98dZEQlL1S/?igshid=1i7h4dlmpj1wp

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688 Likes, 74 Comments - Nightline, ABC News (@nightline) on Instagram: “During the COVID19 pandemic we're seeing the best of humanity but also the worst... in the form of…”
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[20-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Mar-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[20-Mar-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Hue


[20-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkew4g/gamestop-instructs-employees-ignore-law-enforcement-not-shut-down-coronavirus

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GameStop Instructs Employees to Ignore Law Enforcement And Not Shut...
A memo sent to workers says GameStop views themselves as "essential retail."
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[20-Mar-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
gamestop is doing this because they know they'll go out of business permanently if they close


[20-Mar-20 07:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adNmWFebkhE

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CBS This Morning
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Are college students taking coronavirus seriously?
Officials warning the nation about the coronavirus threat are increasingly worried that baby boomers and young adults are not heeding their advice. In Florida, spring breakers are taking advantage of the beaches that are still open. However, some college students are finally s...
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[20-Mar-20 07:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Maybe maybe not


[20-Mar-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
depends on location


[20-Mar-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and program


[20-Mar-20 07:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
god damn liberals' i swear


[20-Mar-20 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/488615-president-trump-is-right-nows-the-time-for-all-hands-on-deck

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President Trump is right — Now's the time for 'all hands on deck'
We have a chance to show the “greatest generation” that younger generations are also able and willing to step up to save the world.
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[20-Mar-20 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How about no


[20-Mar-20 07:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give me my free money and fuck off


[20-Mar-20 07:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
^ Basically what I see a lot of people saying


[20-Mar-20 08:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, it's a fair response considering the billions of dollars that just got flushed into corporations as the stock market crashed, but now that their attention has turned to anyone making less than ten million a year, the attitude shifts to one of bootstrapping


[20-Mar-20 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually seen a lot more aggressive


[20-Mar-20 08:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Give me my Trumpbux now or I'm going outside to cough on everything"


[20-Mar-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why not be aggressive?


[20-Mar-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
We are in a situation where young people are worse off than slaves from most of history's societies.


[20-Mar-20 08:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if you're the kind of person who thinks of yourself as a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, and you see the gov't. bending over backwards for bailouts, wouldn't *you* feel entitled to that treatment if it were suggested (which might as well mean "promised")


[20-Mar-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The immediate response to something that could kill jobs as well as people was to prop up the fukking rich.


[20-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are demanding paid sikk leave come with massive payments to businesses to compensate.


[20-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are conditions in which the rational response is to overthrow the gov't and execute every single one of them.


[20-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is only our irrational compassion and desire for order and peace and laziness that prevents us from doing so.


[20-Mar-20 08:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention the huge chunks of the population carved out as being ineligible even for this $1,200 check that's being touted as "universal"


[20-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487600-Oberweis-wins-gop-primary-to-challenge-rep-lauren-underwood

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Jim Oberweis wins GOP primary to challenge Illinois Rep. Lauren Und...
Jim Oberweis won the GOP primary in Illinois’s 14th Congressional District and will face off against Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-Ill.) in the November general election.
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[20-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So apparently this guy owns a big dairy company and is a perennial candidate


[20-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump's gov't does not begin trying to fix shit while everything is on fire, why not take a torch to every part of it we can?


[20-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His nickname? "The Milk Dud."


[20-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason to be nice to an enemy that will never respond in kind.


[20-Mar-20 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So it makes sense for Trump to be mean all the time then


[20-Mar-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, Trump is the one in control.


[20-Mar-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can make gestures of kindness towards millennials.


[20-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doing so would relieve the tensions.


[20-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fukk gestures, give us money and debt forgiveness


[20-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not words


[20-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is a symbolic meaning, Its.


[20-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the point is, it is a repeated prisoner's dilemma


[20-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration at every point always makes the first move.


[20-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their move has always been betray.


[20-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
MIllennials hav no reason to cooperate.


[20-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ONUS is on the gov't to cooperate with the people FIRST.


[20-Mar-20 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of gov't is to provide an improvement of conditions by dealing with threats in a coordinated manner and providing consistency and overall dependability in systems.


[20-Mar-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the gov't fails to provide dependability for young people, then there is no reason for them to support its current form of existence.


[20-Mar-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when the main threat affects it much more than them.


[20-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, if the gov't doesn't start providing UBI to Millennials very soon, @Itsthinking, well then they logically should riot and resist at every turn to make the problem worse to gain an advantage.


[20-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The young do not vote


[20-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are not allowed to vote.


[20-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are not given days off work.


[20-Mar-20 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah UBI is inevitable now


[20-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are not registered easily.


[20-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system at every turn tries to stop them from voting.


[20-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system will be adjusted *or it will break*.


[20-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It reminds me of that conservative pundit begging his fellow conservatives to considering something, anything to reform the Electoral College


[20-Mar-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because if that doesn't happen he sees it as going away completely


[20-Mar-20 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even know how you would reform it


[20-Mar-20 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Give metro areas super electors or something?


[20-Mar-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way you could reform it is if you changed the 2-step system.


[20-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* if we ditched primaries altogether and did something with candidates needing so much in the polls by the general election to get on all the ballots


[20-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
3 Democrats, 2 Republicans, 2 third-parties run.


[20-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then Electoral College decides how to reallot votes when there's no first-round winner


[20-Mar-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
AND decides who the VP is.


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Completely remove ability of a president to choose their VP.


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead, only Electoral College chooses VP


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
President died?


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie While I agree young people are blocked from voting,  I'm not convinced at all they will vote outside online polls even if no obstacles


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
New president gets a VP chosen by Electoral College.


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well guess what


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
we're getting online voting now


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
hav to


[20-Mar-20 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit even the original system would probably be better now


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where the runner up becomes VP


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Its


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
the original system had more than one candidate per party sometimes


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what made it work.


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The runner-up might be a more moderate guy from the other party


[20-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The runner-up wouldn't just straightup be the only other choice.


[20-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The current system chooses the most conservative candidate from each party


[20-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you didn't let them choose VP, then who runs the country is set at primary time.


[20-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a question of who's in which slot.


[20-Mar-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Primaries ARE THE PROBLEM, in other words.


[20-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Electoral College is stupid, but not a serious problem.


[20-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
**Parties should not be able to choose their candidates**.


[20-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
EVER.


[20-Mar-20 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only the Dems have systems that basically allows that


[20-Mar-20 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The way the GOP does it has no "prevent the charismatic demagogue from making the racists excited" failsafe


[20-Mar-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're very mistaken.


[20-Mar-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removing superdelegates from the current Dem system does not make it so the people choose the candidate.


[20-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It still is the party choosing the candidate.


[20-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The people are just a weird intermediary.


[20-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, the problem here is exclusion.


[20-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot in most states vote in both primaries.


[20-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
In many states, you need to be a registered party member to vote in a primary.


[20-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means that people are split up by party in terms of ability to influence who the candidates are.


[20-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result of this splitting, the party has great say in which candidates are possible.


[20-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
More importantly, it means that only the most conservative people select the candidate.


[20-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because conservatives are more likely to take primaries seriously.


[20-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Primaries absolutely drain liberals.


[20-Mar-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The parties are the problem, @Itsthinking. Candidates should not be selected based on party.


[20-Mar-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The people as a whole should be allowed to freely select so many initial candidates.


[20-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Candidates should be able to say "I'm this party" etc., but that should be the end of it.


[20-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
None of this bullshit where the party is an organization doing voting.


[20-Mar-20 08:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1241083863801176064?s=21

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Joe Biden is still in hiding.

A conference call with select reporters allows him to sit down, use notes, and not be on camera.

He doesn't have the capacity to stand in front of a camera and answer questions for an hour every day like President Trump!

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[20-Mar-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voting for candidates should be exclusively the realm of the gov't.


[20-Mar-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The words "a local party is holding a primary" should be responded to with dialing 911 so the police show up to arrest the fukkers.


[20-Mar-20 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump still riding on Biden's gaffes which voters apparently don't mind


[20-Mar-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, which boomers don't mind


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers at this point mostly hav fukking dementia


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of it is black voters


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can't even remember Bernie exists


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They remember 10 years ago, not 2


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone with dementia can't form new long-term memories easily


[20-Mar-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
but can often recall very old ones


[20-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So to them, they hear that Joe is falling apart, and in 2 days forget it entirely.


[20-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They look at the options on the ballot and they remember Joe Biden from the Obama days.


[20-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
These aren't voters you can sway with facts or emotion or logic or anything.


[20-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll just vote for the guy whose name they remember.


[20-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that makes sense


[20-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem with having old people run the damn country.


[20-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old people by default go with the familiar, even WHEN they are capable of doing otherwise.


[20-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they often aren't capable of doing otherwise to begin with.


[20-Mar-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They end up bringing old solutions to new problems, which fail catastrophically.


[20-Mar-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
> Boomers at this point mostly hav fukking dementia
then they deny it and tell you to stop being rude despite the fact they clearly cannot function themselves because they worship individualism


[20-Mar-20 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://africa.cgtn.com/2020/03/20/madagascar-records-first-covid-19-case/

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https://africa.cgtn.com/2020/03/20/madagascar-records-first-covid-19-case/
Madagascar records first COVID-19 case
Madagascar has confirmed its first COVID-19 cases. President Andry Rajoelina announced on Friday that the
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[20-Mar-20 08:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
F


[20-Mar-20 08:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
it's game over now.


[20-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
PRESIDENT MADAGASCAR...It's over. The player has won.


[20-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
PRESIDENT MADAGASCAR...It's over. The player has won.


[20-Mar-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Bangladesh>
20 cases. and arrived last week. that took  a while


[20-Mar-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
also TIl there's articles on individual country covids


[20-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Illinois orders shelter in place


[20-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We now have 52 million people who aren't allowed to leave their homes


[20-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488681-biden-sanders-both-top-trump-in-general-election-poll

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Biden, Sanders both top Trump in general election: poll
Both Democratic presidential candidates, former Vice President Joe Biden (D) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) beat out President Trump in a new national poll among voters.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_sandersbernie_031820getty.jpg


[20-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"...when asked “Who do you think will win the 2020 presidential election?” 49 percent of survey respondents said the eventual Democratic nominee, while 51 percent predicted that Trump will win another term in office."


[20-Mar-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is attacking reporters on live tv again


[20-Mar-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Indiana postpones primary


[20-Mar-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's kind of weird, Biden will have 1991 delegates by May


[20-Mar-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, the year he planted his horcruxes


[20-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
VP pick odds

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[20-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeesh.


[20-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what if Biden picks Hillary?


[20-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean Hillary pikks Biden. It's like cats.


[20-Mar-20 09:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
DUP says Northern Ireland will be following the British government strategy model.
British government model and planning simulation does not include Northern Ireland.

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[20-Mar-20 09:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:wheeze:


[20-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be Abrams


[20-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But will be Warren


[20-Mar-20 09:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why is klobuchar even on this *list*


[20-Mar-20 09:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
did we learn nothing from sarah palin


[20-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Minnesota. That's why.


[20-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't want it to go red


[20-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Treascair#7785
Who's Demings?


[20-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Treascair#7785
That's not a name I recognize


[20-Mar-20 11:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@WiFiWitch I imagine your ocs be like this >>2302195


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[20-Mar-20 11:22 PM] WiFiWitch#6285
:glowing_eyes:


[20-Mar-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://ijr.com/trump-peter-alexander-americans-frightened-coronavirus/

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Asked What He Says to Frightened Americans, Trump Responds 'You Are...
Trump slammed an NBC journalist for asking what he would say to frightened Americans.
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[20-Mar-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[21-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Won't be normal for months.


[21-Mar-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
marked dropped another 4.5%


[21-Mar-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think there will be any more dramatic drops


[21-Mar-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
just a slow bleed out


[21-Mar-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just the market returning to pre-Trump levels.


[21-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out inflationary bubbles over REPUBLICANS GONNA REMOVE GOVERNMENT AND CROWN US KINGS can be easily popped.


[21-Mar-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it'll go lower than pre-trump levels because of the acute recession we're about to enter


[21-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
I could never wrap my head around 'market grows because the market believes it will grow' concept


[21-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems like a perfect circular logic for a glorious disaster, and yet...


[21-Mar-20 12:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent it works until we run out of morons <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory>


[21-Mar-20 12:45 AM] jlun2#8758
then people panic sell


[21-Mar-20 12:45 AM] jlun2#8758
and cycle repeats


[21-Mar-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are essentially two theories of wealth creation.


[21-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
1: The worker who mines the ore creates wealth by improving the physical condition of resources so they can be useful and thus be sold.
2: The person who buys the ore creates wealth by assigning an arbitrary value to it while buying it.


[21-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 is what Conservatives believe.


[21-Mar-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will NEVER see them support 1.


[21-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 is premised on the idea that the market is entirely artificial and THUS that it is our duty as rich fukks to pump ourselves up by nothing to lord over the masses, and it doesn't matter that the world is hollow.


[21-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is why conservatives don't giv a damn about the cause of the 2008 financial crisis.


[21-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, nothing was actually wrong.


[21-Mar-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lying about the value of items to them is the same thing as normal operation of the market.


[21-Mar-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, what would actually be wrong is to believe in 1 and thus set values with independent third parties rather than cartels and traders and such.


[21-Mar-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, what is wrong is believing that an artificial GDP number is not really relevant compared to people's actual welfare.


[21-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
by the way, what was the cause? Something similar, someone panicked and triggerd a chain reaction?


[21-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 2008 crisis? Basically mortgages got bundled together.


[21-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, poor Gen Xers who were living paychekk to paychekk would get their mortgage resold by the bank, but bundled with mortgages by rich boomers


[21-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
as a result, the combined mortgage bundle looked like a good investment, and would get bought up rapidly and resold over and over


[21-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile many Millennials were just getting to where they could afford homes


[21-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
or...not.


[21-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning you hav a sudden increase in mortgages that won't ever be paid off.


[21-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the endless trading, combined with Boomers screwing later generations, combined with outright fraud ("subprime" instead of "absolutely not going to be paid off ever")


[21-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
led to eventually the housing market collapsing, and taking with it anyone who was smart but not genius level in the world of the rich.


[21-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, entire gov'ts had bought up these mortgage bundles that were now worthless.


[21-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, America's refusal to make housing affordable for young people led directly to rich people losing out on very, very bad bets.


[21-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds like fun, and highly ironic


[21-Mar-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, as soon as it really hit, rich people just did as rich people do and hid their money and funneled cash to Republicans and soon enuff 2010 rolled around, Millennials were wage slaves at best while the Senate was making sure Obama couldn't actually fix shit.


[21-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, general problem in human societies


[21-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich people when they see a crisis go "oh crap I need to invest in keeping my money safe"


[21-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
not "oh crap I need to fix the problem"


[21-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Them redirecting their cash into their own self-preservation and away from other people worsens the problems.


[21-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's often in fact the entire cause of the problem.


[21-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So rich people just accelerate societal collapse in order to use it as a booster to get themselves clear so they can continue on once things are rebuilt.


[21-Mar-20 01:07 AM] jlun2#8758
and the fact with respect to the current situation of boomers being less educated yet more wealthy annoys me to no end


[21-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
true.


[21-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-recession-worst-wwii-economic-recovery-global-deutsche-bank-2020-3-1029012757

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The worst global recession since World War II: Deutsche Bank just u...
Deutsche Bank said it sees the world plunging into a coronavirus-fueled recession in the first half of 2020 before recovering through the rest o...
https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e73590ec4854010487edc34-2000/grand-central-station-coronavirus.jpg


[21-Mar-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great, now we need an adblocker blocker blocker

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[21-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
it's Labor Theory vs Marginalism if you want to search for them


[21-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
in these matters I'm willing to trust Nebbie.


[21-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
he provided just enough for casual understanding.


[21-Mar-20 01:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie become  a youtuber pls


[21-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah.


[21-Mar-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-forced-to-shut-down-mar-a-lago-2020-3

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Trump forced to shut down Mar-a-Lago as the coronavirus continues s...
Mar-a-Lago was the site of a number of events and meetings earlier this month that included people who have since tested positive for the coronavirus.
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[21-Mar-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronvirus-trumps-press-briefings-bear-similarities-to-his-rallies-2020-3

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Trump can't hold his massive rallies because of coronavirus, so he'...
His campaign, in turn, has amplified Trump's appearances at the briefings and other coronavirus-related meetings.
https://i.insider.com/5e753326c485401d8f009a73?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-staff-exposed-to-coronavirus-before-losing-health-insurance-2020-3

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Dozens of Michael Bloomberg campaign staffers learned they were exp...
Bloomberg campaign employees who worked in the New York headquarters will lose their jobs and health insurance on March 31.
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[21-Mar-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[21-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/690705795888709692/ent1qk1dyun41.png

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[21-Mar-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Mar-20 02:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only 913 dropped of Dow yesterday


[21-Mar-20 02:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Comrade Trump failed to visit the sun again


[21-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OANN is such a fucking joke, but a terrifying one because they're popular local news channels in loads of towns across the country that people trust more just for being local


[21-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're leaning more towards Breitbart than FOX


[21-Mar-20 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how many right wing "journalists" will get medals of freedom this year


[21-Mar-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Mar-20 02:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Pffffffffffffffff check out New York https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241073365898727425?s=21

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[21-Mar-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-anthony-fauci-did-a-facepalm-during-trumps-coronavirus-briefing-2020-3

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Dr. Anthony Fauci did a facepalm after Trump mentioned the 'Deep St...
Standing by the president's side throughout the lengthy press conference on Friday, Dr. Anthony Fauci broke his poker face during one exchange.
https://i.insider.com/5e750596c4854015951dd912?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 03:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/media/trump-rant-at-nbc-news-peter-alexander/index.html

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Trump viciously attacks NBC News reporter in extended rant after be...
In an extraordinary exchange on Friday, President Donald Trump viciously attacked an NBC News reporter who asked what his message would be to Americans who are frightened by the coronavirus pandemic that is spreading across the country.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200320134031-01-trump-alexander-exchange-0320-super-tease.jpg


[21-Mar-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/coronvirus-trumps-press-briefings-bear-similarities-to-his-rallies-2020-3
@prism stryder(intexda)  who the fuck cares anyway, his so-called-massive-rallies are a bunch of shit to be honest.

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Trump can't hold his massive rallies because of coronavirus, so he'...
His campaign, in turn, has amplified Trump's appearances at the briefings and other coronavirus-related meetings.
https://i.insider.com/5e753326c485401d8f009a73?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK's trying to get all retired doctors and nurses back to work in hospitals to deal with the virus


[21-Mar-20 03:34 AM] illumnious#7938
sheesh UK


[21-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Retirees, aka those most vulnerable to the virus, sent to the frontlines


[21-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully their plan is to have them all deal with non-virus issues in completely separate wards/buildings, but, :uk:


[21-Mar-20 03:36 AM] illumnious#7938
🇬🇧


[21-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
||https://vimeo.com/398334975|| Italian hospital


[21-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to prevent previews, use <>, if you want to get a spoilered preview, use `|| ||`


[21-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the space is necessary last I saw)


[21-Mar-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was expecting it to actually embed properly but wanted it covered by a spoiler


[21-Mar-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess Discord doesn't do that


[21-Mar-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
WTF

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[21-Mar-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you sure that isnt a sarcastic hashtag?


[21-Mar-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like thanks obama


[21-Mar-20 05:10 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ThankYouPresidentTrump&src=trend_click

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News about #ThankYouPresidentTrump on Twitter
1h ago @DeanObeidallah tweeted: "A brutal new ad uses Trump’s own words a.." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
Twitter


[21-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
||https://vimeo.com/398334975 ||

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Coronavirus, le immagini shock dall'Ospedale di Bergamo
This is "Coronavirus, le immagini shock dall'Ospedale di Bergamo" by Socedit on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
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[21-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does do it.


[21-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, the space is necessary.


[21-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just used discord's own highlight for it, didn't ad anything myself :shrugpony:


[21-Mar-20 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
> Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here.


[21-Mar-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
so you have to go to the source anyway lol


[21-Mar-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally.


[21-Mar-20 08:53 AM] byte[]#2610
It blows my mind just how much the media is covering up trump's dementia


[21-Mar-20 08:54 AM] byte[]#2610
his response to a public health crisis is completely deranged and that demented derangement deserves to be front page stories on every major news outlet


[21-Mar-20 08:54 AM] byte[]#2610
but they're still helping him...


[21-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberal bias or no, it actually does help CNN et al to have Trump be president


[21-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Bernie


[21-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legitimately, what will they cover if Biden wins?


[21-Mar-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At best they get a decent amount of boring income that is steady


[21-Mar-20 09:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/9hergyukgvn41.jpg

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[21-Mar-20 09:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[21-Mar-20 09:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the number of cases in America will become the #3 (china still #1) tomorrow


[21-Mar-20 09:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So many have been completely lax about the threat, as is the american way


[21-Mar-20 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
boomer remover it is


[21-Mar-20 09:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If this doesn't die during summer and stay dead in fall, they'll delay the elections for sure


[21-Mar-20 09:39 AM] byte[]#2610
you mean cancel


[21-Mar-20 09:40 AM] byte[]#2610
all hail king trump


[21-Mar-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
It's weird how that list says "America" instead of "US" or "USA"


[21-Mar-20 09:52 AM] byte[]#2610
also that it says "cured" instead of "recovered"


[21-Mar-20 09:52 AM] byte[]#2610
or "death" instead of "deaths" or "dead"


[21-Mar-20 10:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-intelligence-warned-trump-of-pandemic-in-january-2020-3

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Intelligence officials were warning Trump about a pandemic as early...
"The system was blinking red," a US official told The Washington Post, but Trump refused to take action against the coronavirus.
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[21-Mar-20 10:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/trump-coronavirus-response-9-11.html

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This Isn’t Trump’s Katrina. It’s Stupid, Slow-Motion 9/11.
Trump already had his Katrina, anyway.
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[21-Mar-20 11:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://junkee.com/fraser-anning-bankrupt/247177

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Fraser Anning Has Been Declared Bankrupt Exactly One Year After He ...
Finally, his finances match his morals.
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[21-Mar-20 11:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🦀


[21-Mar-20 11:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> Finally, his finances match his morals.

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[21-Mar-20 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488624-bloomberg-transfer-%2418m-DNC-defeat-Trump

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Bloomberg to transfer $18M to DNC to defeat Trump
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg will transfer $18 million to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and plans to consolidate his massive campaign organization behind the national party in an effort to defeat President Trump in Novemb
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bloombergmichael_03032020getty.jpg


[21-Mar-20 12:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/488635-coal-industry-asks-for-financially-beneficial-rollbacks-amid

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Coal industry asks for financially beneficial rollbacks amid corona...
Coal companies are looking to the White House and Congress to roll back a number of fees paid by mining companies, arguing the coronavirus will exacerbate difficult financial times for the struggling industry.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coaltruck_070219getty.jpg


[21-Mar-20 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they can't afford to keep going during all of this, they should burn like the product they mine from the ground


[21-Mar-20 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
Transport industry, I get. Services indurstry, I get.


[21-Mar-20 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
why would coal industry struggle?


[21-Mar-20 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
reduced power usage? idk


[21-Mar-20 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
they always seem to be struggling


[21-Mar-20 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
mainly because of cheap natural gas


[21-Mar-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/03/9573590/ice-agents-raid-homes-coronavirus-lockdown

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ICE Agents Are Gearing Up To Raid Homes During Coronavirus Lockdowns
Hundreds of additional ICE officers are being deployed in unmarked cars in cities that refuse to help with deportations as part of an initiative called Operation Palladium.
https://www.refinery29.com/images/9573909.jpg?crop=40%3A21


[21-Mar-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/488630-former-trophy-hunting-group-lawyer-joins-trump-administration

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Former lawyer for trophy hunting group joins Trump administration
A former lawyer for a trophy hunting organization with ties to the Trump administration has joined the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS).
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[21-Mar-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/488609-power-industry-may-ask-staff-to-live-on-site-as-coronavirus

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Power industry may ask staff to live on site as coronavirus outbrea...
The U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/electricgrid_powerlines_071219istock.jpg


[21-Mar-20 02:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/as-china-virus-cases-near-zero-experts-warn-of-second-wave?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_medium=instagram&utm_source=dash%20hudson&utm_content=www.instagram.com/p/B9_yEtUH_MI/


[21-Mar-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah their claims sounded too good to be true.


[21-Mar-20 03:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.14.20036178v1

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Correcting under-reported COVID-19 case numbers
The COVID-19 virus has spread worldwide in a matter of a few months. Healthcare systems struggle to monitor and report current cases. Limited capabilities in testing result in difficult to guide policies and mitigate lack of preparation. Since severe cases, which more likely l...


[21-Mar-20 03:38 PM] byte[]#2610
> In the case of China, it is estimated that more than 700.000 cases of COVID-19 actually occurred instead of the confirmed 80,932 cases as of 3/13/2020.

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[21-Mar-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[21-Mar-20 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there is literally a press breifing scheduled for every single day

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[21-Mar-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
he needs to feed his narcissism


[21-Mar-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
HE MUST


[21-Mar-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the corona virus took his rallies, he shall take our tv as compensation!


[21-Mar-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile ICE is going around pretending to be door to door doctors so they can ambush people in their houses


[21-Mar-20 04:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1241272447187419137

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Hungarian Justice Min. @JuditVarga_EU sends bill to Parliament:
- State of emergency til end of 2020
- Rule by decree
- Parliament suspended
- No snap elections/referendums
- Spreading fake news and rumors punishable with up to 5 years in prison #COVID19 
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[21-Mar-20 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which sounds illegal as fuck, but whose gonna stop them? trump?


[21-Mar-20 04:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241367239900778501?s=21

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HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents)......
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[21-Mar-20 04:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241367245143642113?s=21

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....be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE! @US_FDA @SteveFDA @CDCgov @DHSgov
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[21-Mar-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[21-Mar-20 04:24 PM] illumnious#7938
:spikegag:


[21-Mar-20 04:24 PM] illumnious#7938
:bad_horse_water:


[21-Mar-20 04:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Talking shit as usual


[21-Mar-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, i can only imagine the shit that will funnel out of his word hole at today's breifing


[21-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Opponent#3498
it sounds convincing to housewives.


[21-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Opponent#3498
big words


[21-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Opponent#3498
= he knows what he's saying


[21-Mar-20 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m surprised he hasnt suggested people start using industrial bleach


[21-Mar-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
give it time.


[21-Mar-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
a couple days anyway.


[21-Mar-20 04:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Chlorine, chloroquine, what's the difference?

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[21-Mar-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chlorine dioxide will solve all the corona!


[21-Mar-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
feed it to your babies!


[21-Mar-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
feed it to your grandma!


[21-Mar-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it cures everyone!


[21-Mar-20 04:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1240676153893040129?s=21

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I think it’s time for the media to address the elephant in the room: Trump may be incapable of understanding the problem. It involves data, graphs, projections, connecting dots, conceptual thinking. I think he fundamentally cannot mentally grasp it.
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[21-Mar-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-undercuts-fauci-on-whether-chloroquine-can-treat-coronavirus-2020-3

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Trump keeps touting a decades-old malaria pill as a coronavirus 'ga...
Dr. Anthony Fauci said chloroquine, a drug that's used to treat malaria, needed to be studied in clinical trials as a COVID-19 treatment.
https://i.insider.com/5e750281c48540357e13abfb?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-huckabee-suggests-replacing-toilet-paper-with-corn-cobs-2020-3

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Former Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee urges Americans facing toilet ...
"The corn isn't important, but the cobs are free and work great! (Just don't flush them!) You're welcome!" Huckabee tweeted.
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[21-Mar-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
what the actual fuck


[21-Mar-20 05:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just use money as toilet paper


[21-Mar-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just use stocks as toilet paper, the stock market will be fine


[21-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
"What do you say to the American people who are scared" "You are a terrible reporter"


[21-Mar-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
nuts


[21-Mar-20 06:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1241371910346244098?s=21

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This is the guy we're relying on to solve a pandemic
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[21-Mar-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll solve it by killing us all and then celebrating the victory


[21-Mar-20 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2020/3/20/person-supposed-be-charge-unraveling

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The Person Who's Supposed to Be in Charge Is Unraveling
Friday's press conference is proof that Donald Trump has the leadership qualities of a cornered animal.
https://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/meltdown.jpg


[21-Mar-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
>implying there was anything there to unravel


[21-Mar-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
You could not give this man a concussion because his skull is totally empty


[21-Mar-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
If you gave Trump an enema you could bury his remains in a matchbox


[21-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-if-you-earn-180-a-month-youre-middle-class-m2hz6d87m


[21-Mar-20 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Stoopedhooy


[21-Mar-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/0919f19eb7420da168ca61f15eaa49f7

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As offerings dwindle, some churches fear for their future
NEW YORK (AP) — As in-person worship services are canceled or downsized amid the coronavirus outbreak, some churches across the U.S. are bracing for a painful drop in weekly contributions and...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/e307c58b78854065860e5b6712d2360b/3000.jpeg


[21-Mar-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Good


[21-Mar-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Churches can die


[21-Mar-20 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/states-with-the-most-projected-job-loss-from-coronavirus-2020-3

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25 US states at risk of losing the most jobs because of the coronav...
The Economic Policy Institute combined Goldman Sachs' and Deutsche Bank's projections to estimate how many jobs each state could lose this year.
https://i.insider.com/5e75283a671de0325a7e2955?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-20/finland-tops-world-happiness-report-for-third-year-running?


[21-Mar-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
@illumnious delete the social media tracker tags


[21-Mar-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moral of the story? move to finland


[21-Mar-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1241429409694912513?s=21

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Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1241429409694912513?s=21
FDA authorizes first rapid, 'point of care' #coronavirus test
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[21-Mar-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240765945968234496

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240765945968234496
America’s Private Sector is stepping up to help us be STRONG! Many of the Nation’s distillers, large and small, are producing and donating hand sanitizer to help fight #COVID19. THANK YOU! https://t.co/bcjKA9Janw
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[21-Mar-20 07:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Useless piece of shit


[21-Mar-20 07:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) based on the picture, let me guess. white churches come out mostly unscathed


[21-Mar-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[21-Mar-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlike most things in america, the virus is not picky when it coems to race


[21-Mar-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
yes. but I thought white churches (in america) were huge, with vast sums of money


[21-Mar-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt help when all of your members are quarantined and cant "donate"


[21-Mar-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
churches also liekly arent deemed as "essential services" and might see their doors shut for awhile to protect the health of citizens


[21-Mar-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though i guess that depends onw hich state you;re looking at


[21-Mar-20 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I would actually not be surprised if black churches had a better chance of survival


[21-Mar-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck off

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[21-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ

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The Onion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ
Should The Government Stop Dumping Money Into A Giant Hole?
With the economy sliding deeper into a recession, panelists discuss whether it's time to stop throwing our money into a massive pit out in the desert.
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[21-Mar-20 08:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[21-Mar-20 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
@illumnious that's a parody account in case it's not clear


[21-Mar-20 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938
I know


[21-Mar-20 08:17 PM] illumnious#7938
I love that video


[21-Mar-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-vaccine-medical-supplies-price-gouging/

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Banks Pressure Health Care Firms to Raise Prices on Critical Drugs,...
Investment bankers have been candid about the opportunity to raise drug prices on critical drugs and medical supplies.
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[21-Mar-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie It's time to bring the guillotines back.


[21-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
PRICE CONTROL IS SOCIALISM


[21-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
THE MARKET WILL DECIDE THE PRICE


[21-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean the executive treatment devices.


[21-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're luxuriously designed to accomodate any executive's head.


[21-Mar-20 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
The future is towards either centrally planned capitalism, or to begin the march towards communism. Your choice, America.


[21-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those are too complicated choices for Trump to understand.


[21-Mar-20 09:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
He doesn't need to


[21-Mar-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once we put him in the guillotine, it wont matter what he can comprehend


[21-Mar-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
WHICH NUMBER IS BIGGER WE NEED ONLY THE BEST WE ARE AMERICA NOT CHINA THEIR VIRUS IS WORSE


[21-Mar-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We have the biggest death toll, the best death toll, we beat china in amounts of deaths!"


[21-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
@IAmADeliciousPotato how is the logistics curve looking now?


[21-Mar-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-progressives-say-13-trillion-stimulus-isnt-enough-2020-3

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The Senate is about to pass the 'largest relief package in history'...
AOC's former advisers say the government should scale up the stimulus and pay for it by printing more money.
https://i.insider.com/5e6a460954f25c2ca923f4c3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Mar-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-hurting-his-personal-businesses-2020-3

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Trump says the coronavirus is hurting his personal businesses and h...
He said he didn't know if his businesses would take government assistance if it qualified. "Everybody knew I had hotels when I got elected," he said.
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[21-Mar-20 09:37 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The curve went to shit at this point
I need to collect data anew
A greater proportion of people were infected than earlier data had shown


[21-Mar-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
easier said then done when a lot of countries are skewing their own data to make themselves look healthier


[21-Mar-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is doing this by just not having enough tests


[21-Mar-20 09:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241464184761696268?s=21

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[21-Mar-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1241363131085082626

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https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1241363131085082626
Civility is a tool of the powerful to maintain their power at the expense of the vulnerable.  https://t.co/Xf9xthmEQk
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[21-Mar-20 09:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Why https://twitter.com/solmemes1/status/1241390922329448449?s=21

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Dont worry he got this...... https://t.co/QXK7hbTHck
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[21-Mar-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just fuck triolo, i hope she eats a big fat sack of dicks next election


[21-Mar-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato "went to shit" is an understatement...


[21-Mar-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
graph went from looking like a reasonable logistic to O(n!)


[21-Mar-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
also @Nebbie


[21-Mar-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
since you asked originally


[21-Mar-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5e752a54bedcae000619af75/960x0.jpg?fit=scale etc.

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[21-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
WELP


[21-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what happens when not everyone can just see a doctor for testing.


[21-Mar-20 11:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think this is a result of delayed testing


[21-Mar-20 11:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I believe this is a result of shifting curves


[21-Mar-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
I think I believe


[21-Mar-20 11:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Similar to how hemoglobin drastically increases O2 saturation when O2 concentration increases


[21-Mar-20 11:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Due a change in curve


[21-Mar-20 11:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I only say "think" and "believe" because it's a hypothesis


[21-Mar-20 11:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I can't state it as fact


[22-Mar-20 12:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/

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Total Cost of Her COVID-19 Treatment: $34,927.43
Getting hospitalized in the U.S. for COVID-19 may cost thousands. How much of that you'll pay depends on your insurance.
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-covid19-testing-treatment-US.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[22-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seesh, just like, light the landlord fires.


[22-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put the insurance company CEOs on top.


[22-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flames trikkle up, bitch.


[22-Mar-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Bernie, Bernie, you may never live to see your plans, but your spirit lives on in our political will


[22-Mar-20 12:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there ever such thing as a government run hospital?


[22-Mar-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[22-Mar-20 12:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean shouldn't that take care of the bills?


[22-Mar-20 12:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean it happens here in my country


[22-Mar-20 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
M4A does not mean government run hospital


[22-Mar-20 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
it means the government pays the hospital bill


[22-Mar-20 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
(the hospital is still privately run)


[22-Mar-20 12:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There are public hospitals though


[22-Mar-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Not here


[22-Mar-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
wait are you shitting me


[22-Mar-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-leadership.html

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Used to Meeting Challenges With Bluster and Force, Trump Confronts ...
The ways he dealt with crises in his business, real estate and even his personal life prove jarring as he leads the government’s response to a pandemic.
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[22-Mar-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
> Aides have long understood that Mr. Trump needs to hear support for his decisions, preferably described in superlatives. He often second-guesses himself, prompting advisers to ask allies to tell him he made the right call or go on Fox News to make that point in case he might be watching.


[22-Mar-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
jesus fucking christ


[22-Mar-20 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean we kinda knew that all along


[22-Mar-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't know his actual aides _called into fox news to do that_


[22-Mar-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but now the feedback loop's confirmed, I guess?


[22-Mar-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
this administration has broken me


[22-Mar-20 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If Giuliani could do it, and his friends from his campaign did it, why not his current staff


[22-Mar-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
oh my god the administration compared him to FDR


[22-Mar-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you think this is bad, you should hear how the producers of the Apprentice talk about what it was like working with him. It sounded more like the show was a found-footage collage of Trump's inane babble saved in the edit and they just hoped he'd spit out something they could use. He didn't always do that


[22-Mar-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
it's the world's largest social engineering exploit


[22-Mar-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
btw can you give me a plaintext version of this article


[22-Mar-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
if I had his serial confidence and narcissism I could get past literally any security system I wanted


[22-Mar-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is/UWEHo

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Used to Meeting Challenges With Bluster and Force, Trump Confronts ...
archived 21 Mar 2020 16:46:13 UTC
https://archive.is/UWEHo/cdccbb9709e109c0f0b323189e160cd857d140fe/scr.png


[22-Mar-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I figure you want to bypass the paywall


[22-Mar-20 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mostly don't want to even give the site an impression


[22-Mar-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
archive.is is a proxy


[22-Mar-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
a caching proxy...


[22-Mar-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
so you won't give it an impression


[22-Mar-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
more wilson https://www.thedailybeast.com/you-cheered-as-he-fucked-up-no-take-backs-trumpists?ref=author

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You Cheered as He Fucked Up. No Take Backs, Trumpists.
The virus doesn’t follow him on Twitter. It does what it does, and exploits time and complacency in its human hosts. Trump gave it a six-week pass.
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[22-Mar-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Mar-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
> The Trump media agitprop arm’s desperate attempt to pretend their robust “it's just the flu” and “this is just duh librul media trying to hurt Trump” defenses never happened is astounding. The internet remembers, and they can't undo the last six weeks of excuse-making on Trump's behalf.
> 
> There are good leaders, bad leaders, and lucky leaders. Sometimes good leaders have bad luck. Sometimes bad leaders have good luck. This time, we've got a bad leader whose luck finally ran out, and whose reservoir of trust outside his base is essentially zero. 
> 
> And we're not even at the end of the beginning of this pandemic. God help us.


[22-Mar-20 02:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here most of the hospitals are run by the gov


[22-Mar-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know if your government is being honest about viral infection reporting, though


[22-Mar-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
they are known to lie about these things


[22-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
external simulations have shown that the total number of cases reported in Wuhan is inconsistent with how the virus behaved in other similar populations and infection count should be 700000+ when the official count was far lower


[22-Mar-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
an order of magnitude lower


[22-Mar-20 02:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least it under control now since all large rallies are allowed


[22-Mar-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it might be


[22-Mar-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
we're not so sure


[22-Mar-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it could mutate and rebound


[22-Mar-20 02:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
As our health department said, the only thing we should do now is to reduce the large flowing of people


[22-Mar-20 02:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially people from abroad


[22-Mar-20 02:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The infection rate of people entering China from the US is much higher than the official infection rate of the US


[22-Mar-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
statistics from whose authority...?


[22-Mar-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
China's?


[22-Mar-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
if so, may be reason to doubt


[22-Mar-20 02:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[22-Mar-20 02:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of these people are students studying in the US


[22-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Back from their spring break bug-catching orgies


[22-Mar-20 02:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And many of them just already known they got infected, they cheated the customs with antipyretics.


[22-Mar-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
that sounds unlikely


[22-Mar-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is chronically test deficit


[22-Mar-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the vast majority of people have absolutely no way of finding out if they are infected or not


[22-Mar-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
including myself


[22-Mar-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
and unfortunately because it's china you are talking about here we have no real way of knowing if what they are reporting is accurate


[22-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> many of them just already known they got infected
That sounds like propaganda tbh


[22-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As byte said, testing in the US is terribly anemic


[22-Mar-20 02:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most people we here think that they returned to China because can't afford the treatment cost in the US


[22-Mar-20 02:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like, several thousands of dollars


[22-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get treated for the virus or buy a new car with only upfront money.


[22-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same price pretty much.


[22-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, treatment is prohibitive, but testing is so low in the US that it's extremely unlikely there's any number of people that managed to get tested, got a positive result, and managed to skirt US authorities up to getting to an airport and on a flight to China


[22-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the CCP wants propaganda they can just wait a week to get footage of overflowed US hospitals and people dying in their homes because they can't even afford to call an ambulance, no need to make stuff up


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Isn't the testing of corona free?


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
No


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been agreed that it will be partially free at some point in the future


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't believe China hasn't weaponized this particular bit of evidence


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's like $3,000


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
The cost of medical care in the US will bankrupt just about anyone who needs it


[22-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Honahue#0656
like $500 with insurance or something


[22-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The ambulance, the waiting room, the staff taking the test, etc., all that's still billable


[22-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law says the testing must be free if you hav insurance/medicare/medicaid/VA care/whatever weirdness is provided for certain indian tribes


[22-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And there's been nothing broached about treatment itself


[22-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you are *uninsured*, it's not free.


[22-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The treatment is another matter.


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
isn't the treatment just symtome management currently


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
they made it so insurance actually does what insurance does in ANY OTHER FUKKING COUNTRY only on testing.


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
America is a dystopia if you're not healthy or rich


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/

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Total Cost of Her COVID-19 Treatment: $34,927.43
Getting hospitalized in the U.S. for COVID-19 may cost thousands. How much of that you'll pay depends on your insurance.
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-covid19-testing-treatment-US.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to the usual absolute bullshit of copays and such.


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
worlds richest thrid world country


[22-Mar-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
35 thousand usd dollars


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
>when a new Tesla can't pay for your treatment


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/free-covid-19-drive-thru-testing-site-opens-in-houston
it's free in Houston texas

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Free COVID-19 drive-thru testing site opens in Houston
Congresswoman Jackson Lee urges residents with symptoms of the coronavirus to take no charge testing.
https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox26houston.com/www.fox26houston.com/content/uploads/2020/03/724/407/0DEC507D17244C9D9B8C5506FE080BA3.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are fucked, woo


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The video that Trump's speech in his office is widely spread here


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay great for Houston


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I DO NOT LIV IN HOUSTON


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
you get a tax credit for buying a tesla too


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not in houston


[22-Mar-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m in north carolina


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Any video of trump speaking is horrifying


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea that ANYWHERE ANYONE should hav to pay fukking money to be tested for a pandemic virus is absolutely crazy


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
We know


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/trump-signs-coronavirus-bill-free-testing-paid-leave
I'm pretty sure testing is going to be free everywhere soon.

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Trump signs coronavirus bill ordering free testing and aid for workers
Measure introduced by Democrats will expand Medicaid and unemployment benefits and mandate paid sick leave for some
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[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel liek trump is just going to become more nightmare fuel as he goes on


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the bill that makes it free if and only if you hav some form of insurance.


[22-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Read the actual text.


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well most people do have insurance of some kind.


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Guardian made the classic mistake of parroting other news organizations


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am uninsured


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good for them


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and unemployed


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not one of them


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Uber drivers don't


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Honahue#0656
most retail


[22-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what South Korea did that is keeping them afloat?


[22-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They made testing free for everyone PERIOD


[22-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means people actually know if they hav it and as a result they can much better stop the spread of it.


[22-Mar-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i can fucking tell, my unemployment gap is about to get way longer thanks to this pandemic fuckery


[22-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a virus that spreads by regular people with few to no symptoms who don't bother with getting tested going about and putting it all over their workplace.


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is FREE TESTING FOR ALL or your country is fukked.


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
America chose fukked


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/faith-based-healthcare-facility-stepping-up-with-free-covid-19-testing/RLOMINDVDBGILHH7GQRHRCCNUY/
there's also a free one in Memphis too.

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Faith-based healthcare facility stepping up with free COVID-19 testing
A local healthcare group will continue to offer free testing in the future.
https://d1hfln2sfez66z.cloudfront.net/03-21-2020/t_9fbd632375c242ad8f2be0b6786ea037_name_BD40FA95158B4B33973B10951A69AF9D.jpg


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So fukked it is.


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOOD FOR THEM


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh well good for memphis


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fukking point is it must be for ALL


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure everyone can just get to memphis!


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
**ALL**


[22-Mar-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a SINGLE person is forced to pay for testing it is too many.


[22-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amercia has chosen fukked.


[22-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Expect the hospitals to be overflowing by mid April.


[22-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well the money has to come from somewhere. even if we didn't pay it directly we'll still have to pay for it at some point

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[22-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh fukk off


[22-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The money comes from the fukking gov't


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So, where are those text kits that Daddy Ma send to the US?


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
and EVERY OTHER COUNTRY at this point pays for it


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Honahue#0656
the Fed's been printing literal trillions of dollars to keep Wall Street happy


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
We will figure out the money when the time comes to pay it


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://time.com/5803791/jack-ma-alibaba-coronavirus/

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Alibaba's Jack Ma Sends Boxes of Coronavirus Test Kits and Masks to...
'All the best to our friends in America'
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/jack-ma-coronavirus.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Right now we need action


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukk off with saying we're some special snowflake where individuals need to pay just because it costs


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah thankfully there's going to be some hometesting kits soon.


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Not bitching about payment


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The government just dumped trillions into the economy to stop inflated numbers going down


[22-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i think that testing price is stupid high


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes stupid high prices are what you get when big pharma is allowed to advertize and leeches off gov't research to make mad profits


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
literally the most american thing ever, people are dying on a massive scale and the health industry wants to make a profit off it first


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Advertizing costs money


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
that money must be recouped


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
so prices go up


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why most countries straightup make drug ads illegal.


[22-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There was a prospective vaccine for SARS that could've been used for this


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never went into testing because SARS died off and no pharma companies cared about it anymore


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Advertizing also allows a company to push a drug with NO RESEARCH SHOWING EFFECTIVENESS


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When COVID-19 kicked off big time in Feb


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can just bribe the FDA then start advertizing


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and bam, people buy their new drug


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of the one whose patent just expired and became a cheap generic


[22-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The people running that vaccine started calling pharma companies again to fast track it


[22-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah i knew. bit of shame. I heard  israel continued their SARS research even after interest worse off.


[22-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They said "no"; they even wanted to wait out and see if the virus would be coming back year after year


[22-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So they could keep producing it year after year


[22-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise a one-off cure just wouldn't be a profitable enough investment


[22-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that one article about the $2 million cure treatment for a degenerative condition babies sometimes are born with?


[22-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they priced it at $2 million is they amortized the cost of the regular lifelong treatments.


[22-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And said "this is what people are willing to pay"


[22-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Honahue#0656
there's also a cure for Hep, C but it's like several 100k cause cures don't keep peole dependant on drugs


[22-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's been research on SARS and SARS like virus on the low key for awhile.
back in 2019 Bill Gates commissioned a research lab in the UK to work on treatments and vaccines on SARS like virus's


[22-Mar-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the minute a SARS cure is released, pharma companies will charge millions for a single dose


[22-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but depending on the whims of billionaires for life saving medicine is demonstratbaly a bad idea


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's great there's been some research


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but a vaccine sat frozen in storage for the last 4 years.


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Untested.


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it had been tested, we would know by now whether it works.


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so is relying on the whims of a bureaucratic government.  both have pros and cons. it is what it is though


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And would likely be halfway in to developing a vaccine for this.


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't isn't why the vaccine sat frozen.


[22-Mar-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is what is it is not an acceptable answer


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
itps a fucking cop out


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't often does some research funding.


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US already relies on the whims of the government, and they're retarded whims


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its the only answer the people of wuhan had


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you know what happens?


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Private industry comes in, patents the research, and makes millions.


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then not enuff get the care they need.


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Europe doesn't have some weird ban on private companies operating on their own


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
millions? hah


[22-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
billions


[22-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was the $2 million drug btw https://www.statnews.com/2019/06/03/is-2-1-million-too-much-for-a-drug-for-affected-parents-there-is-no-debate/

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Damian Garde
https://www.statnews.com/2019/06/03/is-2-1-million-too-much-for-a-drug-for-affected-parents-there-is-no-debate/
Is $2.1M too much for a drug? For affected parents, there is no debate
The drug maker Novartis has set a record with the price of its latest product, a one-time treatment for a rare and fatal childhood disease.
https://www.statnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Malachi-1-1024x576.jpg


[22-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It just has governments that care about their people and treats them like humans and not taxpayers


[22-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pay $2 million or thousands every several months or your toddler dies.


[22-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
How great that these kids get treatment 😹 etc.


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(free in the EU)


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also uh


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's Republicans who decry bureaucracy


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
who slash budgets for research


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying the private sector should take it over


[22-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
the same private sector who refused to fund research into the SARS vaccine.


[22-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
its also the same private sector that gave us Space X which revived our interest in space?


[22-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What we need is a gov't that actually funds shit instead of turning things over to companies that just want to milk us like cows.


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Space X would not hav made it without a shitton of gov't money.


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we cannot rely on it for everything.


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
My argument isn't to DESTROY the private sector


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that the gov't needs to be a bigger player


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh btw


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't not funding NASA enuff


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
is the reason we are currently without a US solution for launching astronauts


[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Our ability to go into space shouldn't be dependent on one man smoking weed in a podcast tanking their stock

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[22-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
as both private sector options are struggling to make theirs work.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
NASA was defunded by Obama. Still mad he did that.

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[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it wasn't.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody defunded NASA.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes it was


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
it's been defunded for awhile


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
before Obama


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The funding just stopped increasing.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the 80s


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama did not make any major changes to this.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump however proposed large cuts.


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the funding got slashed and the space shuttles got canned


[22-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama did not slash funding, you can look at the funding numbers.


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
what's your source for "obama cut nasa"


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and Obama regulated them to mainly satellites and climate research.


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
shuttle was very old and also pretty shit thanks to Air Force meddling


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
burden of proof is on you


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA#/media/File:NASA-Budget-Federal.svg

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[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look at the graph.


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
though the Soyuz is also very old but has also killed fewer people


[22-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama's presidency is on the tail end of this


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is the flattest part.


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, he stopped the slow reduction that was going on previously.


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he froze the budget in 2010 and then slashed it in 2013


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
source please


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where the fukk are you getting this?


[22-Mar-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Budget isn't decided by the president, no?


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's congress


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
look it up. and please stop being so angry all the time nebbie


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So if you're saying it went down during Obama, that was the tea party


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you have a mouth on you


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, you brought it up, you provide the source


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are making a claim that clashes with basic statistics.


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put up or shut up.


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Macarou#9574
And stop whining about the way Nebbie speaks


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not going to do your google foot work for you


[22-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.space.com/24157-obama-legacy-in-planetary-exploration.html


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
put up or shut up when you make claims


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
_The Obama administration cut NASA's planetary-sciences budget by 20 percent in 2013._


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the 2013 cut is about a specific part of NASA and not the overall thing.


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's different from your claim.


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's part of nasa


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but you're missing the point


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it was still funding cut


[22-Mar-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
they didn't just cut NASA


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they cut from one program to giv to others.


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The overall level of funding stayed the same.


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you read on in your own damn source


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
it starts saying this is a problem not because it's a reduction


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because it shifted things to different kinds of programs which the article seems to disagree with.


[22-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"It has taken the National Research Council's (NRC) recommendations for prioritizing planetary investments in bad economic times and turned those recommendations upside down. The administration continues to favor large, directed projects at the expense of programs and missions that are openly competed."


[22-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first sentence is certainly an objective problem (Obama didn't respond correctly to expert advice), but the second sentence is some bullshit about economic philosophy.


[22-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
it is an opinion article


[22-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NASA, realistically, hasn't been competently handled since Apollo ended.


[22-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially what this is about is Obama felt it was better to fund things like WFIRST over things like studying Mars.


[22-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as unnecessary shuffles that waste manpower.


[22-Mar-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civilian space programs were never designed for anything but beating the Soviets. Once the Space Race is done, nothing to do.


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, I'm calling it here


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
yes there's a problem with how NASA is handled


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it has fukkall to do with private vs. public


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX didn't make amazing advances just because it's private


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they did them because they had m o n e y


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is letting Congress decide what makes a good spacecraft.


[22-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA needs its pre-90s funding restored.


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has a dearth of manpower that means most money goes to keeping the lights on


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When NASA says jump, Congress should say how high


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, the lesson here isn't "gov't bad"


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically blank check them


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we look to NASA's history, it did amazing shit in the 60s when its budget was huge


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the lesson here is to actually increase NASA's budget.


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the point is space x has the money and nasa doesn't


[22-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX was in part slowed down because it relied on NASA for certain things


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and NASA had low manpower on them


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy in charge of dealing with that asked Congress for more funding every damn year.


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was denied every time.


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, SpaceX needed paperwork and reviews and such completed for its crew capability.


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obama had nothing to do with this


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then maybe we should either boost NASA or we free up Space X of restrictions that make them dependant on nasa


[22-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it's not unnecessary paperwork you can skip


[22-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's things like safety reviews.


[22-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is known for not being thorough about its reviews, relying mostly on testing things.


[22-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
a lot of the problem is that rockets and ICBMs are basically the same and thus handled with a lot of secrecy


[22-Mar-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
While their great ability to test is very good, you do need NASA too.


[22-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, boosting NASA is necessary and it's the same damn thing as boosting stuff like SARS vaccine research.


[22-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just plain money that needs to be spent.


[22-Mar-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main difference between them is not funding NASA enuff is bipartisan.


[22-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas it's a very partisan issue on funding research for medicines (Democrats for, Republicans "FREE MARKET THO CAN DO IT WHY SHOULD WE PAY")


[22-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, basic R&D looks like a black hole on an account report


[22-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's become clear the free market can maybe almost do space exploration, somewhat sometimes.


[22-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cannot do vaccine research.


[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Honahue#0656
free market can do near earth stuff for communication most science missions are still government projects


[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's something to note


[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX is doing great with LEO


[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's doing okay with higher orbits


[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
warning, highly disturbing content https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/03/lung-fluids-coronavirus/

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[22-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not doing jakk shit as far as actual exploration


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
graphic description of drowning


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX will not be exploring Mars in the near future.


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah again R&D looks like a black hole until you need it and that might be years down the line


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX does plenty of R&D


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but other planets pose huge challenges and take a long time to pay off.


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to plan a year ahead to do Mars.


[22-Mar-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to plan multiple years ahead to do anything further.


[22-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA got to Mercury on 1km/s of delta V


[22-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it took them 11 years.


[22-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX would never do that.


[22-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would hav to bruteforce it.


[22-Mar-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a lot more delta V, so a lot more fuel tanks, much bigger engines, and a much much bigger launcher.


[22-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Honahue#0656
not sure you even could brute force it with current tech


[22-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
_looks at delta V map_


[22-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
8870m/s


[22-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's probably not doable yet.


[22-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Honahue#0656
those are the effeciency orbits too


[22-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just slightly too much.


[22-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Honahue#0656
ideal launch windows and oberth effects


[22-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, you can do it with a pretty small probe.


[22-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not what NASA sent.


[22-Mar-20 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah naturally the small something is the easier but it's also several times closer to the sun so it's going to need radiators and shade


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, NASA mainly got screwed by Nixon, @Itsthinking


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
essentially his vision was that spaceflight should be routine, mundane, unprivileged.


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/bill-barrs-doj-using-pandemic-crisis-to-ask-for-permission-to-hold-prisoners-indefinitely-without-trial-report/

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[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
it doesn't get funding


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and can be commercialized


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be proud of where we are now.


[22-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
with SpaceX footing the bill for things in LEO while we do next to nothing outside LEO.


[22-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other than relying on Russia of course, and the flop of the Space Shuttle.


[22-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just wait, Trump will pardon Flynn on the grounds that "he should be with family during the crisis, not confined with hardened criminals potentially sick with the chinese virus. #KAG!"


[22-Mar-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-gdp-drop-record-2q-amid-coronavirus-recession-goldman-sachs-2020-3-1029018308

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[22-Mar-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-crisis-could-lead-to-new-credit-crunch-as-companies-struggle-with-debt

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Experts warn companies that have gorged on cheap money for the past decade face going out of business
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[22-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see they learned nothing, or rather they learned that they could get away with it anyway


[22-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note btw about the article on how bad the disease can be


[22-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many who don't die will instead get brain damage.


[22-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will be Boomers who go from "forgets things sometimes" to "nearly comatose"


[22-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also if it gets too bad, there will be regularly doctors just not saving Boomers to save Gen Xers


[22-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Opponent#3498
brain damage from a flu strain?


[22-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's unrelated to the flu


[22-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it causes pneumonia that can lead to oxygen starvation, I imagine


[22-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coronaviruses are little balls covered in golf tees.


[22-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The golf tees attach to respiratory cells.


[22-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It then makes them produce more virus.


[22-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
After a while, damaged lung alveoli leak blood out.


[22-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your immune system and such can't keep up, this goes from "nothing" to "drowning in blood" overnight.


[22-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In terms of relationships with other viruses, there are other Coronaviruses that are less severe and are considered colds.


[22-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This one is basically SARS with minor tweaks (less lethal, less infectious, less visible, longer incubation time), @Opponent


[22-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically SARS is every noob's strategy in Plague Inc.


[22-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
COVID-19 is what they do after reading a strategy guide.


[22-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully viruses don't suddenly mutate to turn lethal like they do in that game.


[22-Mar-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(evolutionary pressure is actually away from lethality so there's always hosts)


[22-Mar-20 04:07 AM] Opponent#3498
that's an interesting analogy :D


[22-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and drowning can cause brain damage.


[22-Mar-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ventillators used to treat people are basically "giv them almost pure oxygen and pressure it down their throats"


[22-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forcing oxygen thru blood can work, yes, but there's no guarantee you'll get enuff oxygen to keep your brain fully satisfied.


[22-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few minutes of low oxygen and brain cells will die.


[22-Mar-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This didn't age well

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[22-Mar-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Leopard ate his face


[22-Mar-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
shame there's no timestamp on 2nd post


[22-Mar-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> little balls covered in golf tees
that's a cute way to describe it


[22-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOLF TEES OF DOOM


[22-Mar-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
2nd post is 17th of March


[22-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/jwdaddy80/status/1239704023998984193

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I have it. Don’t sleep on this thing people. I’m a very healthy type I diabetic. My body is fighting it very well but it’s kicking my ass. Don’t be a moron. Stay home!
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[22-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
First is <https://twitter.com/jwdaddy80/status/1237411718466138112>


[22-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Diabates with this is deadly btw.


[22-Mar-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 15% death rate among diabetics.


[22-Mar-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Apparently Trump fell asleep during a meeting


[22-Mar-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if he really does have it


[22-Mar-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I keep waiting to hear about an outbreak at WRMC


[22-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd wait until he skips public appearances to say he likely has it.


[22-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Falling asleep is hard to do with this.


[22-Mar-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes you struggle for air.


[22-Mar-20 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even if Trump isn't patient zero that could have some dramatic effects on the healthcare sought by the president


[22-Mar-20 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or anyone else on capitol hill


[22-Mar-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Oh inside the president's circle? A pence staffer got it


[22-Mar-20 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, I'm aware it's making the rounds


[22-Mar-20 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but what I was saying was that if Walter Reed gets hosed, then things'll really get spicy


[22-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
inb4 Jared Kushner gets it and Trump declares a week of mourning expecting him to die.


[22-Mar-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
We need a week of mourning for everything else Kushner gets, though...


[22-Mar-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Bankruptcy filing in 3, 2, 1... https://nintendoeverything.com/gamestop-closing-all-stores-as-of-march-22-due-to-coronavirus/


[22-Mar-20 05:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *really* wonder what's gonna happen in PA with Gov. Wolf threatening to yank their business license over the stunt they pulled


[22-Mar-20 05:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of people we here still believe corona testing in the US is free...


[22-Mar-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
China doesn't hate the US that much it seems


[22-Mar-20 05:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No, just our media too fucked yp


[22-Mar-20 05:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Almost all kinds of news have two or more visions and no one know which one to believe


[22-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624081744282386442/691037770914988042/FB_IMG_1584826633036.jpg

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[22-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
apparently this is a DIY claymore


[22-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
that someone's making to prepare for the apocalypse


[22-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not very DIY if you need a military grade grenade


[22-Mar-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
UK is on the same trajectory for death as Italy


[22-Mar-20 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[22-Mar-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So's Madrid at this point


[22-Mar-20 05:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our main official medias said nothing about the cost of corona testing in the US so far


[22-Mar-20 05:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are still posting Trump's speeches


[22-Mar-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Haha


[22-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump speeches are the most devastating anti-US propaganda, so not too bad a play


[22-Mar-20 05:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Are they posting the edited ones that the media here show


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Or the raw incoherent rambling


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've tried catching all the live ones I can and by god


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He just cannot hold a thought for more than 3 seconds


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
The media do so much to make him look like he's not retarded


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
But he is


[22-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Constant tangents and delays and self-praise


[22-Mar-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
And they are really, shockingly effective at editing him into something that sounds vaguely reasonable


[22-Mar-20 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even when he's not in hype mode he just cannot talk normal


[22-Mar-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Until he does something out of line stupid like say "you're a terrible reporter" at a softball question


[22-Mar-20 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
"What do you say to the Americans who are scared" "You're a terrible reporter"


[22-Mar-20 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Top bantz


[22-Mar-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At some point a FOX member is gonna get sick and one of their reporters is gonna ask a hard question and he'll lose it


[22-Mar-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
People's Daily, Chinese Central Television and Global Time are all posting Trump's speeches as America news


[22-Mar-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Are the speeches edited?


[22-Mar-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt they're the full 20 minute rants


[22-Mar-20 05:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of them just added Chinese subtitles


[22-Mar-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
'This is what democracy gets you people'


[22-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Can you... can you even translate what he's saying?


[22-Mar-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[22-Mar-20 05:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Most of the words he says do not form sentences


[22-Mar-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese grammar is similar to English grammar.


[22-Mar-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just need to add a bunch of "le" in it and should make sense mostly.


[22-Mar-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(finish particle, basically "and then" or past tensing + "and")


[22-Mar-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/438422061753434112/691126834372280430/Us_medical_fails_again_3d_printers_ftw_d40bd6_7604509.png

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[22-Mar-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
This meme format is oddly specific yet so widely applicable


[22-Mar-20 05:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Mar-20 05:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Even unofficial medias are focusing on Trump


[22-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely forced by the party.


[22-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus it's real easy content.


[22-Mar-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Nebbie knows mandarin?


[22-Mar-20 05:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like Chinese journalists will lost the job without Trump's speeches


[22-Mar-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Many journalists will lose their jobs without this presidency tbh


[22-Mar-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only a little.


[22-Mar-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
The media attention was what got him the gig to begin with


[22-Mar-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] let me guess. the company wins because CAPITALISM


[22-Mar-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a shame Vermin Supreme didn't run under a party label


[22-Mar-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Probably


[22-Mar-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
VS would never want to


[22-Mar-20 05:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only found two recent American news without Trump on CCTV... One is American people hoarding hand papers, another is a video of adorable twins


[22-Mar-20 05:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And you know what?


[22-Mar-20 05:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Mar-20 05:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>a link of Twitter


[22-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
uh oh, VPN journalist detected


[22-Mar-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
Have the Chinese media latched on to Trump's race baiting?


[22-Mar-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
He's called it the "Chinese hoax," "Chinese virus," "foreign virus," "Wuhan virus," etc.


[22-Mar-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
And the media took pictures of his notes which explicitly say coronavirus


[22-Mar-20 05:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They did


[22-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think he's racebaiting as much as trying to make sure people blame someone else


[22-Mar-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
and he scribbled it out and wrote "Chinese virus" over it


[22-Mar-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope someone asks him about the 1918 USA virus, or the Kansas Special


[22-Mar-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope he for any reason stops being the president of the US as soon as possible


[22-Mar-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
pls die alongside Pence.


[22-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's only a matter of time if the Pence staffer was shedding


[22-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unlikely Pence would die, though


[22-Mar-20 05:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most people we here loves Trump tho


[22-Mar-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He looks like the sort of guy that has a treadmill in the office


[22-Mar-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
That's sad


[22-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
At his age it's like 10% lethality.


[22-Mar-20 05:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Mar-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It not just age, it's age + conditions collected along the way


[22-Mar-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
It's also weird because, like, he has explicitly called for trade war with China which directly harms Chinese laborers


[22-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pence is likely on the lower end of the risk for his age group


[22-Mar-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(it also directly harms american labourers)


[22-Mar-20 05:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese people just love Trump's memes


[22-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese people don't care about actual policy results


[22-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't has trained them to just think in terms of STRONG LEADER etc.


[22-Mar-20 05:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The most popular trump meme here is to say Trump is a Chinese spy from CCP


[22-Mar-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Doubtful, but check Congress for some handsome checks from Beijing


[22-Mar-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
that's just corruption though not spying


[22-Mar-20 05:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://b23.tv/av54802112

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【川普】我为祖国当卧底（高能泪目）_哔哩哔哩 (゜-゜)つロ 干杯~-bilibili
http://i2.hdslb.com/bfs/archive/8568e734e406bc1aeba42d017bddb69860af3acf.jpg


[22-Mar-20 05:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang  "love" as in they love how whacky he is or "love" as in they want him to be leader


[22-Mar-20 05:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like this one, the title said "I Became a Spy for my Motherland"


[22-Mar-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that's just weird


[22-Mar-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the man can't even keep national security secrets


[22-Mar-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
to the point where chiefs of staff canceled those meetings because it was better for the president not to know


[22-Mar-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
he's also got an insanely guilty conscience when talking about the people he has actually had shady dealings with


[22-Mar-20 06:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/people-need-to-wake-up-a-skeptical-rural-us-lacks-resources-for-coronavirus-fight/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Roxine Poznich says she won’t close her used book shop in Fort Scott, Kansas, until someone makes her.The 73-year-old proprietor worked in the lab at the town’s hospital for decades. But that job vanished when Mercy Hospital closed its doors two years ago. She now relies on th...
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[22-Mar-20 06:13 AM] illumnious#7938
for how long now?


[22-Mar-20 06:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-law-enforcement-document-reveals-white-supremacists-discussed-using-coronavirus-as-a-bioweapon/ar-BB11vT0H

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Federal law enforcement document reveals white supremacists discuss...
White supremacists discussed plans to weaponize coronavirus via “saliva,” a “spray bottle” or “laced items,” according to a weekly intelligence brief distributed by a federal law enforcement division on Feb. 17.


[22-Mar-20 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
Unless they're going to a minority retirement home, they'd probably spray like hundreds of young people and get like 5 sick


[22-Mar-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just needs one of them to work at a food joint to purposefully infect hundreds though


[22-Mar-20 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
people get serious jail time for food tampering


[22-Mar-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1241485175915048961

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https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1241485175915048961
So this woman not only buys out a local Dollar Tree of every single box of paper towels, napkins, and toilet paper so that no one else can buy any, but caps it off with this:

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[22-Mar-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I see shit like this and I'm like


[22-Mar-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, these are the people who will get fucked the most eventually


[22-Mar-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes make it well known you have tons of supplies when society breaks down and there's no consequences


[22-Mar-20 07:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> these are the people who will get fucked the most eventually
I thought karma was a fake movie trope


[22-Mar-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah not really


[22-Mar-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll give up your toilet paper to someone with a gun.


[22-Mar-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even before then price gouging has limits etc


[22-Mar-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-orders-halt-on-surgical-abortion-calling-them-non-essential-2020-3

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Ohio's attorney general demanded abortion clinics stop providing su...
Abortion rights advocates have accused Ohio officials of using the coronavirus pandemic to further their political interests.
https://i.insider.com/5e7677be671de07598554f43?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Mar-20 01:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-urges-laid-off-restaurant-workers-to-join-amazon-2020-3

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Jeff Bezos is asking laid-off restaurant and bar workers to come wo...
"We hope people who've been laid off will come work with us until they're able to go back to the jobs they had," Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos said.
https://i.insider.com/5e76cc7a0c2a6205e62507d2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Mar-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1241418470341980167

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NRA (@NRA)
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Americans are flocking to gun stores because they know the only reliable self-defense during a crisis is the #2A.

Carletta Whiting, who’s disabled & vulnerable to #coronavirus, asks Dems trying to exploit the pandemic: Why do you want to leave people like me defenseless? htt...
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[22-Mar-20 01:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) guns cure corona


[22-Mar-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america already has a vaccine! It's called the 2nd amendment!


[22-Mar-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Sorry grandma, looks like i'm gonna have to put you down to save our family


[22-Mar-20 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1241727105282510849?s=21

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https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1241727105282510849?s=21
Joe Biden Uses Coronavirus to Boost Campaign Donations
https://t.co/Y9hNGCWWxJ
Twitter


[22-Mar-20 03:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is this not literally using the coronavirus pandemic to further Trump's campaign


[22-Mar-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his followers wont see the irony


[22-Mar-20 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as trump is owning the libs, hypocrisy is a non issue


[22-Mar-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell, if you point out trump's issues, they just make declarations about how china and north korea are worse and you should go there if you think america is so bad


[22-Mar-20 03:55 PM] jlun2#8758
do boomers even know what irony is? pretty sure I had arguements with parents on that topic before


[22-Mar-20 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think they care what irony is


[22-Mar-20 04:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's so much like how some Chinese say "if you think China is so bad, why don't you go to the US?"


[22-Mar-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
what if I emigrate to sweden instead


[22-Mar-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finland welcomes american emmigrants


[22-Mar-20 04:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't think our Chinese "boomers" know what "Sweden" is


[22-Mar-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure american boomers know the whole of scandinavia even exists


[22-Mar-20 04:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"that's the commie place that socialist on NBC likes, like venezuela, right"


[22-Mar-20 04:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The average years of education of Chinese Internet users is 6 year


[22-Mar-20 04:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Luckily my mom has entered the college, so seldom believe those ridiculous Internet rumours


[22-Mar-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college teacher uses all the boomer stereotypes...


[22-Mar-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the gen x students also use all the boomer stereotypes


[22-Mar-20 04:21 PM] Crow#5457
no, american boomers know what scandinavia is, it's that thing all them socialist millennials are going on about when they say they want affordable healthcare


[22-Mar-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s them pie in the sky place come what with to whisk the kids awayn to imagination land!


[22-Mar-20 04:22 PM] Crow#5457
they know that scandinavian countries aren't socialist, but when presented their policies without referring to the countries, they say the policies are socialist


[22-Mar-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/What-Happens-If-Oil-Prices-Go-Negative.html

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What Happens If Oil Prices Go Negative? | OilPrice.com
The combination of the Saudi Arabia vs Russia price war and the widespread coronavirus outbreak has created a perfect storm for oil markets that could send crude prices into the negatives
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[22-Mar-20 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
No crow they don't even know what socialism is and just vaguely say the countries are socialist based on name recognition


[22-Mar-20 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
you give them too much credit


[22-Mar-20 04:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/93kjpbtearg21.jpg

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[22-Mar-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
no, I'm saying that they know that scandinavian countries aren't socialist


[22-Mar-20 04:24 PM] byte[]#2610
That is an argument I have never seen play out despite having bickered with a lot of conservatives


[22-Mar-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
I've literally had this argument with my mom multiple times over the past 5 years


[22-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
though I never called norway socialist


[22-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
I told her I want what norway has, she says norway isn't socialist


[22-Mar-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
but when I present to her policies that norway has which helps its people, she says those are socialist


[22-Mar-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
to her, I'm a socialist, so I want what socialists want, even though I've clearly stated I want what norway has


[22-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
though in the past year or so, every time I bring up norway or scandinavian countries in general, she has some nebulous "oh well they're actually moving more capitalist now and getting rid of their welfare stuff because they can no longer afford it"


[22-Mar-20 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
she can't provide any evidence, and I can't find any articles other than apparently people in norway getting fed up with liberals running their social democracy into the ground and actually turning more to the left


[22-Mar-20 04:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Someone yesterday told me that Sanders is a straight-up communist and that he'll never forgive him for supporting communist countries like Cuba because of what his grandparents went through


[22-Mar-20 04:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To me that's obviously wrong, but like, what could I *possibly* say to demostrate otherwise


[22-Mar-20 04:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Who?

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[22-Mar-20 04:34 PM] Crow#5457
I had a dude yesterday tell me that because the whistleblower who complained about being fired for speaking out about how the HHS sent untrained and unprotected health workers to wuhan to help with the outbreak didn't release any proof of this happening like snowden did (even though one of the things they complained about was that there was no tracking of who went to wuhan to begin with) that it was just another unsubstantiated attack on trump


[22-Mar-20 04:35 PM] Crow#5457
there was no quarantine of the workers who came back, and there was no mandatory testing (optional testing was available, but no one took it)


[22-Mar-20 04:35 PM] illumnious#7938
HHS?


[22-Mar-20 04:35 PM] Crow#5457
US department of health and human services


[22-Mar-20 04:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Ah


[22-Mar-20 04:36 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, do you guys know Li Wenliang?


[22-Mar-20 04:36 PM] illumnious#7938
I don’t know him


[22-Mar-20 04:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The first one who notoced the corona and warned the public


[22-Mar-20 04:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Ah


[22-Mar-20 04:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But get arrested as "making rumors"


[22-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/19/818295972/chinese-authorities-admit-improper-response-to-coronavirus-whistleblower

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Chinese Authorities Admit Improper Response To Coronavirus Whistleb...
Li Wenliang's warnings about the virus initially got him reprimanded by authorities in Wuhan. Now, six weeks after he died of COVID-19, Chinese investigators say they should have acted differently.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/03/19/gettyimages-1201131454_wide-f2410a8eb01c444ccc3504eae1d356145ff3e968.jpg?s=1400


[22-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
I saw this article yesterday


[22-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
which is shocking, china doesn't usually admit to that kind of thing


[22-Mar-20 04:41 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's the pressure of public opinion


[22-Mar-20 04:42 PM] Crow#5457

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[22-Mar-20 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
behold, the big nyoom


[22-Mar-20 04:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't wait to see the second level of... uh... what's the word?


[22-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[22-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
what's futures market like


[22-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
down a little bit


[22-Mar-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
not too much though


[22-Mar-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't think it's going to go down much more than it has


[22-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's definitely not gonna be going up much for a few months either though


[22-Mar-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's going to be catastrophic if it falls too much more though


[22-Mar-20 04:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think we've fully seen the impact of the quarantines yet


[22-Mar-20 04:55 PM] Karmadose#6969
That guy seemed young and he died to corona? Unlucky


[22-Mar-20 04:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, come next week, the reality of it is going to catch up with us economically. This first big slump is what I see as just the bubble bursting


[22-Mar-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if it's possible for me to reallocate my etfs to bonds


[22-Mar-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
in my ira


[22-Mar-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
http://imgur.com/gallery/uutplwW

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The goverment is all over it!
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[22-Mar-20 05:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm honestly kinda glad I put myself in a position of being debt-free with no investments either


[22-Mar-20 05:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sure, I've no idea what that looks like in terms of credit score, but


[22-Mar-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm debt free with one investment


[22-Mar-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
also it's not that much in


[22-Mar-20 05:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm still spending my mom's money


[22-Mar-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm debt free, and i have no credit score


[22-Mar-20 05:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Never checked my credit score..


[22-Mar-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i tried, i came up under "we can;t find this credit score"


[22-Mar-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, maybe right now it;s better that i dont have a credit score


[22-Mar-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
he might mean social credit score


[22-Mar-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah right


[22-Mar-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, either way


[22-Mar-20 05:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's not anything important unless you want to borrow money from the government


[22-Mar-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Mar-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
you gotta use the terms they'll understand.


[22-Mar-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Burgerstan

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[22-Mar-20 05:57 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: in order to eat 5 million hamburgers in 50 years, you would have to eat 274 hamburgers a day


[22-Mar-20 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
you could also give them to neighbours, but that would be SOCIALISM


[22-Mar-20 05:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent better to let them all rot in the streets yea


[22-Mar-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
11.4 hamburgers an hour


[22-Mar-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sharing is harming :ewgay:


[22-Mar-20 05:59 PM] jlun2#8758
sharing is UNAMERICAN


[22-Mar-20 05:59 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sharing is communism


[22-Mar-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
french fry parties are to be done alone


[22-Mar-20 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
how to ascend to being a bald eagle: die from eating 274 hamburgers a day

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[22-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: 1 mcdonald's hamburger has 250 kcal of energy


[22-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
5 million mcdonald's hamburgers have 1.25 billion kcal of energy


[22-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
that is 5.23 gigajoules of energy


[22-Mar-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/1723eb67c3f9822b8b4f3d0dea38f012

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N. Korea says Trump's letter offers anti-virus cooperation
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — President Donald Trump sent a personal letter to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, seeking to maintain good relations and offering cooperation in fighting the coronavirus...
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[22-Mar-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-russia-doctors-say-government-is-covering-up-cases-2020-3

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Doctors in Russia are accusing the government of covering up its co...
Russia's Alliance of Doctors union said officials were classifying coronavirus deaths as regular pneumonia to force down the numbers.
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[22-Mar-20 06:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[22-Mar-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm dissapointed but not really surprised


[22-Mar-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
that was entirely expected


[22-Mar-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[22-Mar-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
smh we live in a society


[22-Mar-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it the country is run by a massive dickweed, it;s trying to cover up it;s numbers instead of actually helping it;s citizens


[22-Mar-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this includes america who is ran by a idiot who can;t keep his story straight


[22-Mar-20 06:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I mean the news that Trump wrote a letter to Kim


[22-Mar-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[22-Mar-20 06:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is that real?


[22-Mar-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[22-Mar-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf×2


[22-Mar-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north korea can claim it doesnt have any cases, because they shoot anyone suspected of having covid-19


[22-Mar-20 06:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This world is becoming more and more confusing for me


[22-Mar-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in reality, it;s unknown how many cases they actually have because trying to get news out of north korea practically requires back channel news sites


[22-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Liang it's simple.


[22-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
what matters is what's in the media.


[22-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
this is especially true for international relations


[22-Mar-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
you can have your entire country literally on fire, as long as the world believes everything is fine, you're doing well.


[22-Mar-20 06:26 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the rule by which the majority of governments are living now.


[22-Mar-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
keep to yourself, act natural, and if anyone asks how you're doing, tell them to go fuck themselves


[22-Mar-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
requests for words of encouragement to your citizens are to be met with extreme hostility towards the person who made the request


[22-Mar-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that's only trump, other leaders except maybe bolsonaro just control the state media entirely and so never have to worry about any hostilities


[22-Mar-20 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8beb0f8d992c3d9b296594b74d43a0ce

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Global athletes group calls for postponement of Olympics
A worldwide group representing Olympic hopefuls is calling on the IOC to postpone the Tokyo Olympics until the coronavirus pandemic is under control.  “As the world unites to limit the...
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[22-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488892-rand-paul-becomes-first-senator-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus

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Rand Paul becomes first senator to test positive for coronavirus
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said on Sunday that he had tested positive for the coronavirus, becoming the first senator to announce they had contracted the disease.
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[22-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[22-Mar-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
he has some backbone though.


[22-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
wasn't afraid to announce it.


[22-Mar-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fema-administrator-says-defense-production-act-still-not-being-used-2020-3

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FEMA chief says Trump still hasn't used Defense Production Act to g...
Doctors, nurses, and hospitals are begging the president to start using the the act to put necessary supplies in the hands of healthcare workers.
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[22-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah fukk, Rand Paul is asymptomatic.


[22-Mar-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Glad he's the first one, but come on virus, fukk over the guy.


[22-Mar-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really hope that his absence swings the vote on some big aid pakkage.


[22-Mar-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guy is a massive asshole that opposes anything resembling socialism.


[22-Mar-20 07:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean he has 'Rand' in his name.


[22-Mar-20 07:45 PM] jlun2#8758
Rand is cursed now


[22-Mar-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488905-mcconnell-delays-initial-coronavirus-stimulus-vote-amid-pushback

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McConnell delays initial coronavirus stimulus vote amid pushback
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) delayed an initial vote related to a mammoth coronavirus stimulus package until later Sunday as a deal over the bill remains elusive.  McConnell moved the v
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[22-Mar-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even know if, were he to end up on a ventilator amidst the shortage of such devices, anyone in the state of Kentucky would turn against him


[22-Mar-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he got tested even though he was asymptomatic and no one's raising an eyebrow at that


[22-Mar-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/488898-germanys-merkel-in-quarantine-after-doctor-tests-positive-for

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Germany's Merkel in quarantine after doctor tests positive for coro...
German Chancellor Angela Merkel is self-quarantining after being notified that a doctor who administered a vaccine to her last week tested positive for COVID-19.
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[22-Mar-20 08:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I got the feeling that headline is going to somehow mutate into "VACCINES CAUSE COVID" after it gets shared over and over


[22-Mar-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[22-Mar-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Same here


[22-Mar-20 08:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god :hopeless:


[22-Mar-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/487910-senate-clears-77-day-extension-of-surveillance-powers

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Senate clears 77-day extension of surveillance powers
The Senate cleared a nearly four-month extension of intelligence programs that expired on Sunday as part of a deal that will also allow for votes on broader surveillance reforms.
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[22-Mar-20 09:34 PM] Best Pony#4669
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1241813715076501509?s=21
The irony when a medical doctor might have infected GOP senators with a known infectious disease

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[22-Mar-20 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's base wants Fauci gone because he's not parroting Trump on a 1:1 level


[22-Mar-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
fauci is the only competent person working on the pandemic response in the administration


[22-Mar-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I have a morbid curiosity to see what will happen if/when trump gives him the boot


[22-Mar-20 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool, upstairs neighbours are having a party, very cool


[22-Mar-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🆒


[22-Mar-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610

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[22-Mar-20 09:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is this loss?


[22-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I mean it's only been a relatively short time since th— oh this graph starts at 2017


[22-Mar-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
:loss:


[22-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
big losses for big boys


[22-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Best Pony#4669
below 2017 jan


[22-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"But China!" has become the "But millions killed under communism" when bringing up the US' mismanagement of the virus


[22-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget "but Italy" for healthcare.


[22-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4EVn03aCJg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4EVn03aCJg
How the Government Botched the Coronavirus Response (LegalEagle’s R...
The Trump Administration’s response has not been . . . perfect or beautiful
Tell your parents to stay home with Ting Mobile and get a $25 credit! http://legaleagle.ting.com

My prior video on US quarantines: https://youtu.be/IF8MswEQS7w

⚖️⚖️⚖️Interested in LAW SCHOOL?  Get my...
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[22-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
To put it simply, Trump has done everything possible to make the crisis worse short of proactively worsening the crisis.


[22-Mar-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
How long is the vid


[22-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
21 minutes.


[22-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
@IAmADeliciousPotato the numbers are gonna be real fun today btw


[22-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
32k cases in the US.


[22-Mar-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Awesome


[22-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doubling every 3 days.


[22-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
5 GOP senators in quarentine


[22-Mar-20 11:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can't wait for it to be my turn


[22-Mar-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-ban-chinese-government-from-twitter-coronavirus-whitewash-2020-3

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Republicans: It's time to ban the Chinese government from Twitter f...
Twitter is officially blocked in China. But that isn't stopping Chinese government officials from spreading disinformation online.
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[22-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Coronavirus started in Missouri with a single student who was studying in Italy whose family ignored "pls stay at home thx" from their county


[22-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We now have 90 cases.


[22-Mar-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-harvey-weinstein-reportedly-contracts-covid-19-2020-3

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Disgraced Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein has tested positive for ...
Weinstein's spokesperson told The Daily Beast he is unaware of a positive diagnosis for coronavirus.
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[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looking at the NYT graph, this is bad


[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/21/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-by-country.html

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Coronavirus Deaths by U.S. State and Country Over Time: Daily Tracking
Compare the number of deaths and their rate of increase over time in the places the virus has hit hardest so far.
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[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doubling every 2-4 days among multiple western countries


[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't like the sound of this and the election schedule


[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, about powers of 2


[22-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that social distancing and flattening the curve only ensures this will also go on longer and come roaring back the second it stops


[22-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
2^10 happens to be about 10^3


[22-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'll see arguments over 1000 vs. 1024 regularly in what "kb" means etc.


[22-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
(IT IS 1000 AND ANYONE WHO SAYS 1024 MUST BE PUNCHED)


[22-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
(MAKE SURE TO PUNCH THEM WITH AN SI UNIT LIST MADE OF STEEL)


[22-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I see the computer storage device lobby got to Nebbie


[22-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, 10 doubling periods is about a 1000x


[22-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
if your doubling period is 3, that's a month


[22-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in a month, that's a tenth of the US population


[22-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's then another week before the virus hits its max.


[22-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say that on the current trajectory


[22-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The start of May will see 70% of the US population infected, and recovery begins.


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US is going to be one of the worst places to try and force "stay at home" orders


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
guns


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"You can't tell me what to do" culture + no central authority


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There was an article in here a few days ago by the NYT


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
So to those people saying this would reach peak by like, September, stop in August


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
haha no


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"How can a culture built on freedom of movement and individual liberty survive a pandemic that requires orders to stay at home"


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
not with these numbers


[22-Mar-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
stocks hit limit down


[22-Mar-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/22/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

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[22-Mar-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/

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[22-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
These numbers are saying that May Day will be when the country is an utter wrekk with millions dead.


[22-Mar-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
there's another crash coming tomorrow


[22-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
4.5 million dead is very possible.


[22-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's by mid May


[22-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
So @Itsthinking, remember your 9/11 comparison


[22-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're going to need larger graph scales to show all the towers being hit.


[22-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine every plane ever built hitting every skyscraper in New York at once.


[22-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's pretty much what this is looking to be.


[22-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"30,000 people died in New York. A million and a half people died in the United States, but sixty million people died worldwide."- Mockumentary _Smallpox 2002_ describing the death toll from a bioterrorist attack


[22-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Haha how unrealistic


[22-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a weird thing to watch now.


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, this could end up like


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
100 million dead worldwide


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
but 5 million dead in the US


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
How would anyone defend the US healthcare system and lakk of paid sikk leave?


[22-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People won't give up emergency socialism


[22-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political cartoons would be putting Republicans as grim reapers


[22-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
By pointing out countries that have it and were also hit


[22-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
THIS OTHER COUNTRY WAS HIT AND THEY HAD AS MUCH AS A TENTH OUR DEATHS WHILE A FIFTH OUR POPULATION!!!! REEEEE


[22-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The issue of how those affected and weren't rich are now destitute will be splintered into a different conversation


[22-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even people whose family members died will be given bills for the tens of thousands


[22-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: my 9/11 comparison


[22-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wasn't ever sure there would be another similar situation America would go through, to the point that 9/11 would be a "Oh right, that happened"


[22-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is it.


[22-Mar-20 11:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1241747720433475584?s=21

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Social distancing UK-style.

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[22-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is screwed.


[22-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They've got a 2-day doubling period.


[22-Mar-20 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Yep


[22-Mar-20 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1241063267692396544?s=21

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Italian virologist says open borders & fears over "racism" crippled Italy's response to coronavirus.

Back in Feb, the Mayor of Florence encouraged Italians nationwide to hug Chinese people on the street & remove their face masks.

Utter insanity.

WATCH: https://t.co/TN7aY7d...
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[22-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were even worse with inaction on it.


[22-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
EU flag raised over Parliament when


[22-Mar-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
[x] to doubt on racism being a major factor


[22-Mar-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
they just had no idea what to expect


[22-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Honahue#0656
PJW is a peice of shit and liar I'd like a better source for that


[22-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
PJW did not know that people use birth control pills for anything other than having promiscuous sex.


[22-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously, had no clue they had any other use.


[22-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Honahue#0656
the UK's statagey was basically let nature take it's course


[22-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Honahue#0656
if they die, they die


[22-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic Malthus.


[22-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was only supposed to be used on the Irish.


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Honahue#0656
ecxept Boris Johnson looks like a grown up blond yarn doll


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A Modest Proposal was a joke but like


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would have legitimately been more humane


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Honahue#0656
not like a Greek Statue come to life like Dolph Lungren


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the great cruelty of English thought, Its.


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
itt Its is pro-vore


[22-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
To think that not killing people and merely enslaving them in horrific conditions forcing them to abandon their own morality and hurt others is humane.


[22-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It depends, does it count as vore even after the murder and Sweeny Todding of the Irish?


[22-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
A whole ideology built on the idea that we should respond to suffering with an active push to eliminate ways that it can be ended, because it is "natural".


[22-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you ever seen the mockumentary CSA: The Confederate States of America


[22-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
CSA president tries to convince Hitler to enslave the Jews, fails


[22-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like something South Park would do.


[22-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh it has slavery last until the modern era, all slave auctions are online


[22-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYaJII3a4c

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Racist Commercials
A series of racist commercials made for the TV station 'Channel Six' in the 2004 low-budget mockumentary film 'C.S.A : The Confederate States of America'. 

These satirical adverts are meant to portray current social norms in regards to racism in America if the Confederacy h...
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[22-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(The satire in this is that these all were/are real products)


[22-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well, most


[22-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-budget.html

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Germany Bans Groups of More Than 2 to Stop Coronavirus as Merkel Se...
Chancellor Angela Merkel went into isolation after learning that her doctor had tested positive.
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[22-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
1v1 me scrub.


[22-Mar-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, what do you expect from a German?

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[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
4 bottles of wine for 2 weeks quarantine seems like not enough


[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
unless she's a very moderate drinker


[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Liquor stores are considered essential service in the US


[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
lol


[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She also has a husband.


[22-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You laugh but liquor stores are in food deserts commonly.


[22-Mar-20 11:49 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's true


[22-Mar-20 11:50 PM] Honahue#0656
the liquor store I used to go to was only booze no food but most aren't that way


[22-Mar-20 11:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-DZ2qkHlqD/?igshid=jklusmb02ed7

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[22-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Honahue#0656
damn


[22-Mar-20 11:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Also Fox News


[23-Mar-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Liquor stores are absolutely essential


[23-Mar-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Alcohol withdrawal will kill you


[23-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, that explains why Gamestop fought so hard to stay open


[23-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Whether you have their old style store that was 70% pop culture stuff or their new LAN centers, the focus isn't on selling games so it isn't essential)


[23-Mar-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gamestop is going through really bad financial times, if it closes it may not re-open


[23-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
F


[23-Mar-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I won't be sad to see that tbh


[23-Mar-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wont either


[23-Mar-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve barely ever used gamestop


[23-Mar-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i doubt even reggie can save that sinking ship


[23-Mar-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of businesses are going to die.


[23-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically this might be the end of offices.


[23-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And most physical stores in general.


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i might as well take up a productive potentially profitable hobby like gardening since my job search si going to become even mroe difficult


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/coronavirus-stimulus-congress-141360

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Senate fails to advance coronavirus rescue package
Democrats and Republicans are still split, but the failed vote will raise pressure to reach a deal.
https://static.politico.com/4f/fc/6d1658634674ab64d0448a6740e5/200322-mnuchin-gty-773.jpg


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Republicans were gonna leave workers high and dry while providing a slush fund for corporations.


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats said no.


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
47-47


[23-Mar-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking republicans


[23-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

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Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandem...
In a tabletop exercise days before an untested new president took power, officials briefed the incoming administration on a scenario remarkably like the one he faces now.
https://static.politico.com/d0/ed/9d356b294a90b47a1dcee39cab95/inauguration.jpg


[23-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So before Trump took office, they actually tried to prepare his administration for exactly this.


[23-Mar-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since then, two thirds of those present hav been pushed out by the utter chaos of Trump's firings.


[23-Mar-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-national-guard-to-california-new-york-and-washington-state-2020-3

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Trump says National Guard will be activated in California, New York...
The president also announced the government would provide tens of thousands of masks, gowns, ventilators, and medical stations in the states.
https://i.insider.com/5e77e4850c2a6256613512c3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Mar-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now watch those extra supplies never actually materialize


[23-Mar-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he totally did it, guys! anyone who tells you otherwise is a lying libtard!


[23-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488939-biden-says-he-will-start-vetting-process-for-vp-pick-in-a-matter-of-weeks

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Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) said Sunday that he would begin the process of searching for a vice presidential candidate in a few weeks as he cements his lead as the frontrunner in the Democratic primary race for the White House.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_031220upi_lead.jpg


[23-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All he would have to do to fuck it up is pick Harris.


[23-Mar-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gabbard


[23-Mar-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The smart pick would be Abrams.


[23-Mar-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best pick would be walkking onto a random street, finding a random lady, and asking her if she wants to be VP


[23-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you be someone who rides to the nomination on the South and not pick someone from the South?


[23-Mar-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can candidates even do that?


[23-Mar-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do what? Pick someone who will appeal to states that they will not?


[23-Mar-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, just go up to a random ass person and just choose them


[23-Mar-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[23-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
weirder things have happened


[23-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was just thinking "Imagine if Georgia and Florida are in play"


[23-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
GABBARD


[23-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie 
> this might be the end of offices.
I'm curious why do we even have offices instead of working remotely at times


[23-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly clinton will choose him


[23-Mar-20 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
same reason we have 'dress codes'


[23-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
offices present a controllable environment for employers


[23-Mar-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ultimately offices are more useful to businesses that need people to be in a single location with positions that cant be done from home due to equipment needs and such


[23-Mar-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like animation studios


[23-Mar-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and depending on the type of study, laboratory offices


[23-Mar-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
accounting firms could likely be done entirely from home with today;s technology if you pay your employees enough to afford to be able to do it


[23-Mar-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as telemarketing, and IT


[23-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
hilariously at home animating is what save Toy Story 2 from destruction


[23-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
rendering yes takes a huge data center


[23-Mar-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god yeah, that saved their ass


[23-Mar-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
but animating is desktop possible


[23-Mar-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[23-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
offices are useful cause it gives managers jobs


[23-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's literally nothing my company couldn't do with everyone working from home


[23-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but managers have to justify their paychecks


[23-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which has been proven by how we're all working from home


[23-Mar-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And our deadlines and requirements haven't budged one bit


[23-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's going to be awkward when we're eventually ordered to come back to the office every day


[23-Mar-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
"That's the way things are done"


[23-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Honahue#0656
someones going to say something about productivity having been down cause of it


[23-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Honahue#0656
even if it's completely false


[23-Mar-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue Does this chart look like it lies?

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[23-Mar-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
You see the hard data?


[23-Mar-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
Being at home makes you work less.


[23-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
the fact that you labeled the axis' already makes it more believable than a Prager U graph

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[23-Mar-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
working at home makes you mroe susceptible to beaver attacks


[23-Mar-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue What is this place?

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[23-Mar-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
> Make Men Masculine Again
What school is this


[23-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[23-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a youtube ran by Dennis Prager


[23-Mar-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the school for insanitorium escapees

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[23-Mar-20 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
and it's completely garbage


[23-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Honahue#0656
just libertarian christian nonsense and nonsequeiter arguements


[23-Mar-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every student gets a free tin foil hat


[23-Mar-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's what alt-right gamergaters watch to learn big words and "quote" statistics when they get into an argument


[23-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
though some people make some pretty hilarious YouTube poops from them so I guess it's okay


[23-Mar-20 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
nah


[23-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Honahue#0656
King of the Hill made some too and it doesn't encourage crazies to shoot muslims or blow up abortion clinics


[23-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1241859397577555970

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Trump mocks Mitt Romney for self-isolating due to coronavirus concerns. Even in the middle of a national emergency, Trump is still bitter about Romney's impeachment vote. https://t.co/pgXQqhSgMA
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[23-Mar-20 01:39 AM] illumnious#7938
blah


[23-Mar-20 01:46 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/22/nhs-paramedic-evicted-from-home-for-fear-he-would-spread-covid-19

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NHS paramedic evicted from home for fear he would spread Covid-19
Joseph Hoar asked to leave within 24 hours because owner ‘super nervous’ about his presence
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[23-Mar-20 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc

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[23-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
this guy's a shithead


[23-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
many of society's voes can be blamed on neolibs, or religion, or racism


[23-Mar-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
but people like this?


[23-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
they'd be shitheads in any economy, any societal structure, any philosophy


[23-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
this is a thing that transcends.


[23-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Girl, it's a landlady


[23-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guillotine knows no gender.


[23-Mar-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the person is ignorant and unempathetic, but you have to admit, if the social concept of landlords didn't exist, she'd not be able to be shitty in this way


[23-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
she'd be shitty in some other way


[23-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
this is one of those 'needs must' things. Being a shithead is an unresistable calling.


[23-Mar-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey just a reminder that Rand Paul, who tested positive for COVID-19 this morning despite showing no symptoms, had surgery last year to have part of his lung removed


[23-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[23-Mar-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I suppose that explains the "abundance of caution" that let him get tested despite being asymptomatic


[23-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's def in the risk group


[23-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very annoying if he doesn't die from this.


[23-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very, very annoying.


[23-Mar-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What isn't explained, though, is why he was seen in the senate's swimming pool this morning - either he should've been in isolation awaiting results, or he *had* the results and got one last swim in before locking himself away


[23-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a huge fukkhead, so probably the latter.


[23-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a guy who wants to privatize marriage and education completely, remember.


[23-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks that like, corporations should be the ones deciding to shaft LGBT couples.


[23-Mar-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also remember he was the guy who got mad that no reporters were repeating his attempts to reveal the whistleblower's identity, so he did it on the senate floor


[23-Mar-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder how many unrelated eric cs got harassed by trumpists


[23-Mar-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
unemployment claims https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETvZvnYXQAI1bJ5.png:orig

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[23-Mar-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
will this crisis finally be the administration's kryptonite?


[23-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're only in March, so much can happen still...


[23-Mar-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump could get it


[23-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oof wait


[23-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just read the graph, thought the last line was a marker


[23-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yikes


[23-Mar-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
(the temporary spikes in that graph are government shutdowns)


[23-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, the delivery business will be booming, at least...


[23-Mar-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it's struggling badly


[23-Mar-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1241879498800484355

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Hey, @GOPChairwoman, I’m super excited to see your condemnation of Donald Trump for making a joke about Mitt being an isolation.

I was told any joke about COVID was a monstrous excess to be condemned by all parties.
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[23-Mar-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1241740081343447040

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Okeechobee County Commissioner Bryant Culpepper at emergency meeting says you can kill coronavirus by holding a blow dryer up to your nose after he saw it on “reliable source” OANN, warns “there’s a lot of baloney out there on social media” #BecauseFlorida https://t.co/n9dGDB...
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[23-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jailed-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-report

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Jailed Harvey Weinstein Tests Positive for Coronavirus: Report
A newspaper reported he was placed in isolation, but his spokesman says he is unaware of the diagnosis.
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[23-Mar-20 04:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a bit of a wonky way to twist a "maybe" headline into a "definitely"


[23-Mar-20 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr officials at prison say he's one of 2 people there who got it, higher-ups confirm 2 people have it but did not name names, the pedo's lawyer didn't get the news


[23-Mar-20 04:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder how the virus got into the prison


[23-Mar-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's twice as contagious as the fukking flu.


[23-Mar-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should not be wondering how it gets places.


[23-Mar-20 04:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Latest confirmed Corona case near me was only 20 miles away. 
If I catch that shit I am dead for real. :spikegag:


[23-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's 2 cases in my county.


[23-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And first evidence of community transmission in the state now over in an adjacent city.


[23-Mar-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not trying to imply anything, it was a genuine musing over who could've brought it in...general visitor, or staff, or just a passing sneeze on the breeze...


[23-Mar-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause tbh how doesn't really matter, I'm just curious


[23-Mar-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't left home except to go to the store for weeks now


[23-Mar-20 04:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I still have to go to work. ☠️


[23-Mar-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
my heart problems I encountered again earlier today have left me uncharacteristically terrified


[23-Mar-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
if I get sick it could exacerbate the problem, but more realistically if I have some sort of serious problem like cardiac arrest the virus means limited hospital availability for me


[23-Mar-20 04:53 AM] illumnious#7938
All caps https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241935285916782593?s=21

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WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!
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[23-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
what? :wat:


[23-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
what's that even supposed to mean? Bernie's gone, the 1.2k payment is too much communism too?


[23-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the Conservative view, helping the poor is not worth saving humanity.


[23-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire view is based on the idea that all problems. ALL. PROBLEMS. are just people being in the wrong part of the hierarchy


[23-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
rich people losing money is only bad because rich people are supposed to be on top, nothing bad happening to them.


[23-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people gaining money is to them the same as rich people losing money.


[23-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
that's too deep for him though


[23-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very simple idea.


[23-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Conservatives tend to favor simpler ideas.


[23-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the Trump view is the penthouses are sealed and inside them are the BEST people


[23-Mar-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and those people just had a boo boo on Wall Street


[23-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He hears that paid sikk leave will make more boo boos just to help some poor fukks he doesn't care about.


[23-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't understand that they can spread the virus to him.


[23-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't understand that shaking someone's hand could transfer things from that person shaking someon else's hand.


[23-Mar-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he does understand that Democrats want to giv chekks not just to hardworking small business owners that fukk over the poor, but the poor themselves.


[23-Mar-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are dealing with a president capable of comprehending classism, but not diffusion.


[23-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
For real, if you didn't catch it, Trump at a rally once told people he disagrees with the ban on certain chemicals in hairspray because "In the penthouse, that's all sealed! It doesn't reach the atmosphere!"


[23-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he believes, he actually believes the following:


[23-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
1) Hairspray is only used in penthouses or similar areas


[23-Mar-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
2) That the air in them never leaves them


[23-Mar-20 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
that's wonderful.


[23-Mar-20 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
simply wonderful.


[23-Mar-20 05:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Does he also think the average american lives in a penthouse too


[23-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[23-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks the average american is the stereotypical suburbanite.


[23-Mar-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not a poor person.


[23-Mar-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[23-Mar-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
trump has no understanding of almost anything that is not directly relevant to his personal pleasure


[23-Mar-20 05:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't know. he seems to know enough to build a company, bankrupt a company, and then revive the company.


[23-Mar-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
didnt he relied on rich parents


[23-Mar-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty sure that even though he's a germophobe, he still believes in miasma theory


[23-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes and no. He had to compete against his own father in the real estate market. 
but his father did give him a single lump sum loan to help him get started.


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
His father gave him a lot more than that.


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony the bad air that comes out from those poor people right


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was given over 50 million dollars over time


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
tax free


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(this was tax evasion, but it's beyond the statute of limitations)


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was not really "competing"


[23-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was the chosen heir to the company.


[23-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, real estate is not a market defined by intelligence and innovation.


[23-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It primarily relies upon large, simple investments into buildings and then exploits them for as long as possible.


[23-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even then


[23-Mar-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump managed to bankrupt many ventures


[23-Mar-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
which suggests he is a very subpar businessman.


[23-Mar-20 05:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> It primarily relies upon large, simple investments into buildings and then exploits them for as long as possible.
Now how do I convince a bank to lend me millions to do that given no credit :ponythinking:


[23-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, real estate in the US is able to negate virtually all taxes


[23-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have money to start with and you can amortise that


[23-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
the IRS allows you to choose how your building theoretically loses value


[23-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
then givs you a tax credit on that.


[23-Mar-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then go to another bank and repeat


[23-Mar-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After a while you're backed up by so many loans and credits that you're golden


[23-Mar-20 05:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> Have money to start with 
rip


[23-Mar-20 10:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-consider-coronavirus-executive-order-federal-prisons2020-3

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[23-Mar-20 10:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/488955-democrats-block-mcconnell-from-holding-monday-morning-vote-on-coronavirus

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Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) blocked Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) attempt to set up a Monday morning vote on the stimulus package, effectively delaying the vote until the afternoon.
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[23-Mar-20 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/defiant-trump-chugs-cup-of-coronavirus-to-prove-citizens-need-not-worry/

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Defiant Trump Chugs Cup of Coronavirus to Prove Citizens Need Not W...
President Trump drank a full cup of COVID-19 in a gesture he hopes will calm the nerves of Americans in these high-stress times.
https://thehardtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/trumpcorona.jpg


[23-Mar-20 11:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html

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Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning after Trump endorses it for c...
Health officials in Nigeria have issued a warning over chloroquine after they said three people in the country overdosed on the drug, in the wake of President Trump's comments about using it to treat coronavirus.
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[23-Mar-20 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/1241825626534883331?s=20

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Cannot draw enough attention to this chart of nationwide unemployment claims as of Thursday. Stunning.

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[23-Mar-20 12:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend made by a Trumpist

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[23-Mar-20 01:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241929664987148289?s=21

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I watch and listen to the Fake News, CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, CBS, some of FOX (desperately & foolishly pleading to be politically correct), the @nytimes, & the @washingtonpost, and all I see is hatred of me at any cost. Don’t they understand that they are destroying themselves?...
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[23-Mar-20 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
no #theendiscoming?


[23-Mar-20 01:19 PM] illumnious#7938
lol no


[23-Mar-20 01:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Soon tho


[23-Mar-20 01:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) That was easy to infect him. Is it real, or fake cup?


[23-Mar-20 01:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Hard Times is satire, ala The Onion


[23-Mar-20 01:27 PM] jlun2#8758
k ty


[23-Mar-20 01:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to test the theory
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[23-Mar-20 01:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Mar-20 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
haha money printer go brrrrr


[23-Mar-20 01:42 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe because they refuse to comply xD


[23-Mar-20 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
or maybe it's because US people, from what I've read, tend to be prescripted and take heavy meds for any reason or no reason, which I'd imagine does interesting things to immune systems


[23-Mar-20 01:46 PM] jlun2#8758
Revenge of the boomers


[23-Mar-20 01:47 PM] jlun2#8758
Young people: "lol boomer remover"
Boomers: "TIME TO MAKE IT KILL MILLENIALS"


[23-Mar-20 01:52 PM] jlun2#8758
So I assume in the US right now it's millenial remover instead?


[23-Mar-20 01:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it just says cases, by which I assume means they had bad enough symptoms to get tested


[23-Mar-20 01:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fatalities could still be concentrated on the elderly


[23-Mar-20 02:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1242074243560542208?s=21

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[23-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us>
I expect them to hit the first breaker pretty early...


[23-Mar-20 02:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/EdgfwypjWww

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Boom Went the Boom
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[23-Mar-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The fed is doing more injections


[23-Mar-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Money printer indeed do go brrrrr


[23-Mar-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp/


[23-Mar-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent the more likely reason is that the US has one of the most unhealthy populations in the world


[23-Mar-20 02:41 PM] byte[]#2610
combine preexisting health conditions, obesity, diabetes, CVD etc with a deadly virus


[23-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, 25yo weighing 120kg gets some breathing issues, he's got 30kg of fat weighing his chest down at all times


[23-Mar-20 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/z43w7o76xco41.jpg

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[23-Mar-20 02:45 PM] byte[]#2610
:oof:
:oof2:


[23-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/investing/dow-futures-limit-down-sunday/index.html

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Global markets get lift from Fed's promise of unlimited support for...
US stocks pulled out of a nosedive Monday and European markets trimmed losses after the US Federal Reserve committed itself to creating an unlimited amount of money to prevent the world's largest economy from plunging into a deep recession.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200322174627-nyse-0320-super-tease.jpg


[23-Mar-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

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[23-Mar-20 03:25 PM] jlun2#8758
wont that cause inflation


[23-Mar-20 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't care


[23-Mar-20 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Numbers must not go down


[23-Mar-20 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Inflation is future people's problem


[23-Mar-20 03:27 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would there be hyperinflation


[23-Mar-20 03:30 PM] Crow#5457
trying to mirror the weimar republic as much as possible so that the nazis win again I guess


[23-Mar-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
it'd be so much worse than that


[23-Mar-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
Germany was Germany's problem.


[23-Mar-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
US is the world's problem.


[23-Mar-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
but no, I expect people to know what they're doing by now, foolish as that might seem.


[23-Mar-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
least know enough not to shoot themselves in the face.


[23-Mar-20 03:43 PM] Opponent#3498
...in fact even back then US was the world's problem, and Great Depression made things so much worse for Germany who relied on US loans to pay back reparations.


[23-Mar-20 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Wtf lol https://twitter.com/get2achievement/status/1242076160865034240?s=21

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Dreamworks all day. (@Get2Achievement)
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@illumnious_ @deathntaxesprof
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[23-Mar-20 03:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Klobuchar's husband's tested positive


[23-Mar-20 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/1242097981991653379

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My husband has coronavirus. I love him & not being able to be by his side is one of the hardest things about this disease. So many are going through this & much worse. I pray for him & you & meanwhile I will do all I can to get help to the American people.
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[23-Mar-20 03:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who are all these people?


[23-Mar-20 03:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[23-Mar-20 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
some stock photo probably :twismug:


[23-Mar-20 03:51 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Expected 25 million unemployments world wide due to Corona is no laughing matter


[23-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is good time to grow own food?


[23-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
do you have space to grow it?


[23-Mar-20 03:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yard for chickens. A lot of chickens.


[23-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta feed them something though.


[23-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Indeed


[23-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sell in exchange for food to feed chickens to make more chickens.


[23-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
eggs are good I'll give you that


[23-Mar-20 03:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this too


[23-Mar-20 03:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
25 mil worldwide? Conservative predictions for the US alone are 20 mil...


[23-Mar-20 03:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But you know what is important farm equiment to buy? AK-47 or equivalent assault rifle.


[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Yeah, I'm reading through some stuff, projections in Brazil are on the 10 to 15mil direct and indirect job losses gosh...


[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
This is going to plaster the entire economy


[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
> the US Federal Reserve committed itself to creating an unlimited amount of money to prevent the world's largest economy from plunging into a deep recession.

oh my god they're so stupid


[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489888838265733121/688423107433594920/AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.gif

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[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
UNLIMITED


[23-Mar-20 03:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Haha


[23-Mar-20 03:58 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Imma sell my dollars, it went from 1 dollar being 3,90 brazilian reais to 5,12 wow


[23-Mar-20 03:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds not bad... this will offset drop in local  currency vs usd.


[23-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I'm still fortune trust me since I work with exportation our earns are in dollar and this super valorization of the dollar means our profits raised a bunch


[23-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
but at the same time now it's all plastered the industry is not producing right now all is closed by state law


[23-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
so we gonna lose too


[23-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
it's a mess


[23-Mar-20 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gop-senators-say-they-dont-need-to-quarantine-after-lunch-with-rand-paul-well-be-praying/

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Republican senators on Sunday reacted to the news that Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) had tested positive for the novel coronavirus. In a statement to reporters, Romney said that he was praying for Paul, who has decreased lung capacity due to recent injuries. ⚠️Mitt Romney says senator...
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[23-Mar-20 04:19 PM] byte[]#2610
Cool story


[23-Mar-20 04:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://brrr.money/

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Money printer go BRRR
Print it, baby!
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[23-Mar-20 04:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
good site


[23-Mar-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not hearing any music


[23-Mar-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
even though there's a music symbol


[23-Mar-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
for what I assume is mute/unmute


[23-Mar-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Autoplay is off for me in browser, but switching that on and mute/unmuting triggers the music


[23-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwUlY9WW1I if you're curious

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[23-Mar-20 04:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Broken on mobile


[23-Mar-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senators-criticize-rand-paul-reportedly-going-gym-after-coronavirus-test-2020-3

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'Absolutely irresponsible': Rand Paul's colleagues are calling him ...
Two of Senator Rand Paul's colleagues in the Senate criticized him for reportedly refusing to isolate himself after he was tested for the coronavirus.
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[23-Mar-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-wins-democrats-abroad-caucus-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

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Bernie Sanders wins the Democrats Abroad caucus, see full results here
Sanders' victory in the Democrats abroad caucus included winning the vote of his brother, Larry Sanders, who lives in England
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[23-Mar-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/DEvo5g4X6sE

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[23-Mar-20 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Uhhh????? https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/
Florida man with coronavirus says drug touted by Trump saved his life
A Florida man diagnosed with coronavirus claims he was saved from certain death by an anti-malaria drug touted as a possible treatment by President Trump. Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles&#821…
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[23-Mar-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/fnl1us/apple_loses_1_trillion_status_for_now_as/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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[23-Mar-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-considers-relaxing-quarantine-to-boost-economy-2020-3

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The Trump administration seems to want to ease off coronavirus prev...
Some Americans could be allowed to return to work, amid fears the economic impact of the coronavirus shutdown could devastate the US.
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[23-Mar-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-growing-frustrated-with-dr-faucis-blunt-approach-2020-3

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Trump is reportedly getting frustrated with Dr. Fauci 's 'blunt app...
As Fauci has become a trusted public-facing official on the coronavirus, President Trump is reportedly growing weary of being contradicted by him.
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[23-Mar-20 05:19 PM] illumnious#7938
*blunt*


[23-Mar-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
4️⃣ 2️⃣ 0️⃣


[23-Mar-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/fauci-trump-science-interview/index.html

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Fauci on Trump: 'I can't jump in front of the microphone and push h...
The nation's top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, described the challenges of working with the Trump administration during the coronavirus pandemic in an interview with the journal Science published Sunday.
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[23-Mar-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/03/22/video-watch-from-space-as-air-pollution-vanishes-over-china-during-coronavirus-lockdown-then-returns/

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New Satellite Video Shows China Pollution Vanishing During COVID-19...
The European Space Agency released a new video this weekend that shows air pollution vanishing over China as the country goes into COVID-19 coronavirus lockdown, then returning as business resumes.
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[23-Mar-20 05:29 PM] illumnious#7938
WTF https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1242122514446368774?s=21

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The Obama-Biden Administration failed to replenish the federal stockpile of N95 respirator masks after the swine flu pandemic, despite recommendations it do so.

The shortage our country is experiencing today is a direct result of their failure to prepare. https://t.co/7I853S...
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[23-Mar-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
>obama did one bad thing
>trump called the pandemic a hoax until a week ago


[23-Mar-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[23-Mar-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[23-Mar-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we just push trump off the top of the white house?


[23-Mar-20 05:33 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[23-Mar-20 05:40 PM] illumnious#7938
Tensions brewing inside the White House over economic consequences of coronavirus response  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/tensions-brewing-inside-white-house-over-economic-consequences-coronavirus-response-n1166671

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Tensions brewing inside the White House over economic consequences ...
Public health officials have pushed the White House to urge Americans to stay at home in an effort to blunt the spread of the virus.
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[23-Mar-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/489021-mcconnell-excoriates-democrats-over-stimulus-demands

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McConnell excoriates Democrats over stimulus demands
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) tore into Democrats Monday morning for their latest stimulus demands as more than three days of negotiations have failed to yield a deal.
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[23-Mar-20 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, so NOW he wants to pass legislation?


[23-Mar-20 06:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the abortion stuff and "unlimited" money printer go brrr were no problem


[23-Mar-20 06:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How dare they suggest policies similar to the ones that pulled us out of the great depression as we slide into another one


[23-Mar-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's all fun and games till a bill starts helping people, then it;s gone too far


[23-Mar-20 06:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1242140857244905477?s=21

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The stupid will kill you all.
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[23-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be noted the Monopoly thing is actually how banks work period


[23-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't look at reserves, they just look at whether you're likely to pay bakk the loan, then they make the loan from nothing.


[23-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble is the federal gov't wants people to believe that it's totally okay to write everyone loans willy-nilly with no interest and that there's actually some bakking to it. There is not.


[23-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In lighter news


[23-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2020/03/animal-crossing-new-horizons-includes-lesbian-reference/105723/

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Animal Crossing: New Horizons Includes Lesbian Reference
Nintendo is going off the deep-end fast, and they're quickly becoming degenerates of the worst kind: influencing kids with LGBTQIA+ agitprop. The most egregiou
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[23-Mar-20 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
he certainly is angry, if the first sentense is anything to go by.


[23-Mar-20 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
also it's highly amusing to me, to imagine a guy 100%ing a cutesy game like this, suffering a very different message than his own, to find something to write about :D


[23-Mar-20 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a sex obsessed weeb.


[23-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He invented the term "boner culture" and will heap praise on something that has women he finds attractive in it.


[23-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No sexualization means the content is bad.


[23-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Better headline https://www.fanbyte.com/news/animal-crossing-new-horizons-has-better-lgbt-representation-than-the-mcu/

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Animal Crossing: New Horizons Has Better LGBT Representation than t...
A reference to an LGBT couple in Animal Crossing: New Horizons has gone viral, in addition to other LGBT-friendly aspects of the game.
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[23-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that Disney wants that chinese dollar.


[23-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there cannot be a single gay superhero in the entire MCU, ever.


[23-Mar-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not even mention of someone being gay.


[23-Mar-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why can't this thing ever just be seen by them as "Oh it's a Western film, those degenerates, this isn't okay IRL though" or something


[23-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like when they censor skeletons


[23-Mar-20 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do they not _know_ that the West doesn't have their interpretation of them?


[23-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[23-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its hav you forgotten everything about conservatives?


[23-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again?


[23-Mar-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like you're arguing from the belief that Chinese censors are literally you but handed a vague mandate from President Xi.


[23-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the 'invite a priest to movie rating decisions' kind of thing.


[23-Mar-20 07:26 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no rationalising it.


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also cultural relativism is retarded, please stop using it.


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's plenty of rationalizing it


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its is just literally forgetting fukking everything about how conservatives operate.


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
"This isn't okay IRL tho" is something conservatives do not ever believe.


[23-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of censorship is to remove approval for things that aren't okay.


[23-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because media saying it's okay will result in people accepting that.


[23-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a matter of removing gay kisses for fear they'll be imitated, necessarily.


[23-Mar-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a matter of removing someone saying it's alright that a guy likes guys.


[23-Mar-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fantasy/reality distinction doesn't matter when it's a guy literally stating as a moral role model what his beliefs are.


[23-Mar-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Iron Man says it's okay to be gay, people actually think it is.


[23-Mar-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, mainly younger people take that to heart, media has its greatest impact on kids raised on it.


[23-Mar-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of my morality comes from Star Trek btw.


[23-Mar-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Stay at home order issued for my county


[23-Mar-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is part of why it's so radical


[23-Mar-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
shit getting serious out here


[23-Mar-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
IMO a future where Earth has no borders is something to fight and die for.


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, about skeletons and cultural relativism briefly, @Itsthinking


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
haha no


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/03/23/allegheny-county-stay-at-home-order/

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State Rep.: Stay-At-Home Order To Be Issued For Allegheny County Am...
A stay-at-home order is going to be issued for Allegheny County, effective tonight, according to a state representative.
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[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
China will interpret things in the Chinese lens


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
they do not giv a FUKK what we think about skeletons.


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would they?


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody who watches a movie in China goes "oh that's just what westerners believe"


[23-Mar-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
no, they see the skeleton, they think ancestors turned evil


[23-Mar-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way, people in the US who dislike loli aren't going to okay it just because it's in anime.


[23-Mar-20 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm, makes sense


[23-Mar-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They might okay it staying in Japan, but they will not okay it coming here.


[23-Mar-20 07:34 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie the disease in US is becoming the millenial remover instead :sad:


[23-Mar-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[23-Mar-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll still remove the elderly


[23-Mar-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
it'll just spread farther.


[23-Mar-20 07:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://kotaku.com/gamestop-finally-closes-stores-to-customers-1842440935

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GameStop Finally Closes Stores To Customers
GameStop will close all of its stores to customers tomorrow, switching to a “delivery at the door” service for locations that remain open, company CEO George Sherman said in a letter to employees today that was obtained by Kotaku.
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[23-Mar-20 07:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/a8x11aozwdo41.jpg

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[23-Mar-20 07:56 PM] jlun2#8758
why are neckbeards so popular in certain areas? is it a cultural thing?


[23-Mar-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well in some places full beards help to keep warm


[23-Mar-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never really understood the dislike for neckbeards as a physical feature


[23-Mar-20 07:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) hair itches and keeps making my skin underneath infected


[23-Mar-20 07:59 PM] jlun2#8758
how do ppl like jeff bezos get bald


[23-Mar-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he went peak lex luthor


[23-Mar-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
once tyou go peak lex luthor, your hair falls out to compensate


[23-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it looks silly, it requires a lot of maintenance most people don't do


[23-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it's viewed as a masculinity sign even though it looks fuqugly on many people


[23-Mar-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Baldness is about removing the last scraps of hair to make things uniform.


[23-Mar-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generally men's hair gets all sort of messed up later in life.


[23-Mar-20 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/489062-new-coronavirus-cases-drop-in-italy-for-second-day

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New coronavirus cases drop in Italy for second day
Italy recorded a lower day-to-day increase of coronavirus cases for the second day in a row Monday, officials said.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_italy_getty02292020.jpg


[23-Mar-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Past the point of inflection then, very good.


[23-Mar-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a month they'll be okay.


[23-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe things will get better worldwide.


[23-Mar-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://ifunny.co/fun/RXR2ybXU7

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[23-Mar-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489042-former-bloomberg-staffer-seeks-to-file-class-action-lawsuit-over-job

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Former Bloomberg staffer seeks class-action lawsuit over layoffs
A former field organizer for Michael Bloomberg’s now-defunct presidential campaign sued on behalf of herself and other former staffers, claiming the candidate promised more than 1,000 staffers jobs through November before laying the
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[23-Mar-20 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-governor-greg-abbott-stop-abortion-services-coronavirus-outbreak/

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Texas becomes latest state to halt abortion services amid coronavir...
Those who continue to provide abortion will face "penalties of up to $1,000 or 180 days of jail time."
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[23-Mar-20 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Already


[23-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457

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[23-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
haha money printer go brrrrr


[23-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489888838265733121/688423107433594920/AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.gif

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[23-Mar-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
quite literally this


[23-Mar-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today my class mate argued that they had no use for the money the government would give them so it;s better ebing given to the corporations so the corporations can middleman their unemployment checks


[23-Mar-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[23-Mar-20 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
:pudding:


[23-Mar-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and since it;s "our" hard earned tax money, it shouldn't be used on us, but for the corporations so they can survive...


[23-Mar-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need a facedesk emote


[23-Mar-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Mar-20 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[23-Mar-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
They finally decided to postpone the olympics


[23-Mar-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks were another bad day

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[23-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Akira has become reality


[23-Mar-20 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder if Netflix has Akira


[23-Mar-20 11:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Apparently it has Evangelion


[23-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but it has a new dub and it's not as good imo


[23-Mar-20 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also my primary screen likes to turn off briefly when Netflix is on and it just did it a second time and I am heccin' ann oyed


[23-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Honahue#0656
they changed some lines cause being gay is somehow more scary now than it was in the 90's when they made the OG dub

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[23-Mar-20 11:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh they have Beaststars.


[23-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Honahue#0656
yes watch Beastars


[23-Mar-20 11:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'm looking at the time like, "Man, I have to leave for work soon... But assuming an episode might be half an hour... No I won't have time. Fuck."


[23-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Honahue#0656
22 minutes


[23-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Honahue#0656
less if you skip the intro and credits


[23-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Honahue#0656
~~don't skip the intro it slaps~~


[23-Mar-20 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh and the coffee house I would like to visit is closed


[23-Mar-20 11:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
So I guess weebry time it is


[23-Mar-20 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
GOD DAMN IT COMPUTER, STOP SHUTTING OFF MY MONITOR WHEN I GO TO NETFLIX


[23-Mar-20 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
I need a new primary monitor


[23-Mar-20 11:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Time to get food


[23-Mar-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] really? I thought the stocks were being brought back up due to unlimited money printing (still down, but not as down)


[23-Mar-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dumping money into the money hole only works for a short time


[23-Mar-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought we learned this in 2008


[23-Mar-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlimited money wont fill a bottomless pit


[23-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3t6mOLK.jpg

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True colors.
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[23-Mar-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
that's only good when they use it ofc


[23-Mar-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
otherwise it should be illegal


[23-Mar-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Mar-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Sabrina_McDa/status/1241821246213386241?s=20

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All the major cruise lines are asking for bailouts from the U.S. Government.

Yet, Disney Cruises sails under the Bahamian flag ... Celebrity Cruises under Liberian/Maltese flags & Carnival Cruises  under the Panamanian flag - all to avoid U.S. taxes & employment law

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[24-Mar-20 12:02 AM] jlun2#8758
clearly it means it's guarantee they'll get bailed out


[24-Mar-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Mar-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
And I thought I was hamming it up


[24-Mar-20 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, which end of the economic spectrum is he talking about here


[24-Mar-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think corporate


[24-Mar-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it's fascinating world we live in, where Trump's government is too far left


[24-Mar-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
> not productive
why are we not automating shit tbh


[24-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
that ^


[24-Mar-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no survival-based mandate for everyone or even most to produce.


[24-Mar-20 12:39 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/investing/ny-fed-trillion-coronavirus/index.html>


[24-Mar-20 12:39 AM] jlun2#8758
er


[24-Mar-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
This image from that article

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[24-Mar-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
did he just came on the "unlimited quantitative easing"?


[24-Mar-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my school hasnt commented yet if it;s shuttign down tomorrow...


[24-Mar-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously?


[24-Mar-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[24-Mar-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony @Opponent old people


[24-Mar-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-outbid-states-on-medical-supplies-2020-3

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[24-Mar-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The federal government is outbidding states on orders of critical medical equipment necessary to aid patients and protect medical professionals from coronavirus. 
States are losing out on crucial equipment orders even though President Donald Trump directed them to get their own supplies, rather than relying on help from the federal government. 
Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker told Trump during a conference call on Thursday that the federal government had outbid his state on three major orders of medical equipment. 
This comes as the US is facing a widespread shortage of equipment, including basic disinfecting products, surgical masks, and life-saving machines like ventilators.


[24-Mar-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
and people ask me why am I so lukewarm to the idea of moving to US xD


[24-Mar-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The federal government is outbidding states on orders of critical medical equipment necessary to aid patients and protect medical professionals from coronavirus, even though President Donald Trump has repeatedly insisted states get their own supplies. 
> 
> During a conference call with governors on Thursday, Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker told Trump his state was denied three major orders of equipment because the federal government had outbid him.  
> 
> "I'm not quite sure what to do with this, so I'm just going to throw it out there for you," Baker told Trump on the call, according to Bloomberg News. "We took very seriously the push ... that we should not just rely on the stockpile, that we should go out there and buy stuff and put in orders and try to create pressure on manufacturers and distributors, and I gotta tell you that on three big orders, we lost to the feds." 
> 
> Baker, a moderate Republican, added, "I've got a feeling that if someone has the chance to sell to you and to sell to me, I am going to lose on every one of those."
> 
> Trump chuckled at that and then said the federal government probably offered the manufacturers a better price.


[24-Mar-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "Price is always a component of that also," Trump said. "And maybe that's why you lost to the feds, okay, I'll tell you, that's probably why."
> 
> Later on the call, after the New Mexico government made a similar complaint, Trump said he would tell FEMA to ensure state orders aren't turned down over a conflict with his administration.


[24-Mar-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[24-Mar-20 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
haha, you got outbid by someone with _literally_ unlimited funds


[24-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
how does that even work


[24-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
specifically why is the government outbiding local governments instead of helping


[24-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
helping? Those poors that don't have a money printing press of their own?


[24-Mar-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
they should just spend less and offer better prices.


[24-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's how Trump operates.


[24-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
To him, state gov'ts are competition.


[24-Mar-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AmerIndependent/status/1240723510454075398

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Before, Trump told the states to figure out how to secure supplies on their own. Today, MA governor Charlie Baker tells Trump his state tried to bid on supplies -- but was outbid by the federal govt. Despite the moment exposing a lack of planning, Trump laughs it off. https:/...
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[24-Mar-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
footage of this


[24-Mar-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
so what is trump going to do with all the equipment? sell it back to states for a profit?


[24-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
why would you move to the US


[24-Mar-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hoard it and laugh at the state governors struggling to keep up with demand?


[24-Mar-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
failed state in 10 years tops


[24-Mar-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all while he declares how great he is and how local governments are weak and liberaL


[24-Mar-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
in any other administration this would have instantly doomed the reelection campaign


[24-Mar-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
but no, here we are again


[24-Mar-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
> Baker, a moderate Republican, added, "I've got a feeling that if someone has the chance to sell to you and to sell to me, I am going to lose on every one of those."
If you look from afar, Republicans are just liberals as well in the eyes of Trump @prism stryder(intexda)


[24-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
a Japanese PM would've stepped down if they botched it this bad


[24-Mar-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[24-Mar-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
> People say we don't have enough medical equipment. FAKE NEWS! We have all the medical equipment we could ever need, RIGHT HERE!


[24-Mar-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially republicans who disagree with him


[24-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
> #KAG2024


[24-Mar-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue stepped down and actually not contribute in politics anymore, or step down publically and be  a puppet master behind the scenes


[24-Mar-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stepped down and retired


[24-Mar-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
that concept sounds alien


[24-Mar-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah japan has a major set of societal rules that they take very seriously


[24-Mar-20 01:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728 (pinned)

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[24-Mar-20 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Step down, trip and fall head first into the concrete floor and die


[24-Mar-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america doesnt really have a set of societal rules above a certain wage point


[24-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
our societal rule is do what you're told and like it, if you're rich enough though do what you want and everyone will lick your boots


[24-Mar-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[24-Mar-20 01:32 AM] illumnious#7938
Dude @AlchemistLiang that’s the best gif I’ve ever seen


[24-Mar-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Mar-20 01:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

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Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60
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[24-Mar-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[24-Mar-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd love to know what version of mortal kombat is an FPS


[24-Mar-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mortal kombat: kall of fatality


[24-Mar-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony in 4 decades we'll be making fun of the kids for playing legend of fortcraft or something


[24-Mar-20 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah we'll be just begging them for water while they drive past as a gang of armed dune buggy drivers in the desert


[24-Mar-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[24-Mar-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Back in my day we actually had fixed residencies and a government to pay taxes to!"
"OK, zoomer"


[24-Mar-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/23/820155258/read-house-democrats-release-3rd-coronavirus-response-bill

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READ: House Democrats Draft Their Own 3rd Coronavirus Response Bill
A counterproposal to the Senate's massive aid package proposal to address the coronavirus crisis, House Democrats have released a draft bill: the Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act.
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[24-Mar-20 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Nah we'll be just begging them for water while they drive past as a gang of armed dune buggy drivers in the desert
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

Ngl sounds like LISA


[24-Mar-20 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/8OcTDzcubZQ

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[24-Mar-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/23/819118596/watch-white-house-to-give-its-daily-update-on-coronavirus-efforts

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[24-Mar-20 02:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wouldn't we expect to see the impact of the social distancing *starting* next week?


[24-Mar-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony doesn't matter anyways given Trump hates facts that don't match what he wants.


[24-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Mar-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Untreated ligma


[24-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
A silent but deadly killer.


[24-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[24-Mar-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Edited?


[24-Mar-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can type anything you want in the game.


[24-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also this is a raccoon/tanuki that explicitly says he ignores the advice of his accountants and has his children pay money for weeds.


[24-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Honahue#0656
years of people making jokes about Guillotining Nook and Nintendo tries to make sure he seems like a generous guy


[24-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He gives zero-interest, no stress loans to minorities


[24-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
I like that Isabelle canonically enjoys whiskey


[24-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/

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[24-Mar-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
> arrest people indefinitely
and let me guess. excludes whites completely


[24-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
so martial law.


[24-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
suspend elections


[24-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
etc


[24-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
well, Barr was put into position for one purpose. Provide the president with absolute power.


[24-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
and he remains pretty damn good at his job.


[24-Mar-20 04:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52012432

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Strict new curbs on life in UK announced by PM
Gatherings of more than two people are banned, shops ordered to close and social events halted as part of rules to keep Britons at home and stop the spread of coronavirus.
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[24-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[24-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
but what about herd immunity bob


[24-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[24-Mar-20 04:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That was when they thought it only killed us plebs.


[24-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
```But Ken Marsh, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, said he was already seeing "large amounts of sickness" among officers across London and enforcing the new restrictions would be "a real, real challenge".```


[24-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[24-Mar-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
total inaction, followed by severe crackdown with an inability to actually enforce it


[24-Mar-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it is **beautiful** :golly:


[24-Mar-20 04:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇬🇧 :wheeze:


[24-Mar-20 04:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will American stocks keep falling?


[24-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
According to my high school politics textbook, I can earn a lot of money if I buy it at a "V" point and sell it at a "Λ" point


[24-Mar-20 04:20 AM] illumnious#7938
How? Just tell me, HOW THE FUCK YOU, OUT OF ALL FUCKING PRESIDENT YOU IS SPREADING FUCKING LOVE??? https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1242289751794868226?s=21

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[24-Mar-20 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yyeah the big question remains 'when, if and how'


[24-Mar-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang yes, 📉 for months


[24-Mar-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
probably not much more in the way of aggressive sell-offs like the last few weeks


[24-Mar-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
unless something really bad happens


[24-Mar-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
just a slow painful bleed out now


[24-Mar-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
few % down each day


[24-Mar-20 04:23 AM] illumnious#7938
Stonks

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[24-Mar-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious spread love to his rabid followers


[24-Mar-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
those are the only "true" americans ofc


[24-Mar-20 04:26 AM] illumnious#7938
Riiiight...


[24-Mar-20 04:26 AM] illumnious#7938
Useless


[24-Mar-20 04:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] number too high rip


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[24-Mar-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/232839851945390080 2012!

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[24-Mar-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
> According to my high school politics textbook, I can earn a lot of money if I buy it at a "V" point and sell it at a "Λ" point
@AlchemistLiang 

Well that is very basic investing so yes. You can make a lot of money from buying low and selling high. It's just a matter of win and who crashes out so hard they cease existing. Investing is a matter of timing. It's an educated gamble.


[24-Mar-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk buy low sell lower


[24-Mar-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> who crashes out so hard they cease existing
dont people have rich buds to help them out


[24-Mar-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
In this case it doesn't matter that they are "wasting" money, really


[24-Mar-20 04:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
> dont people have rich buds to help them out
@jlun2 

This has happened before and will always happen. But since a lot of companies are kept afloat and profitable by taking out loans it's a matter of time until the crash impacts their ability to repay the loan and they default. And then they die


[24-Mar-20 04:31 AM] jlun2#8758
the company dies, I agree. The rich CEOs probably still be rich enough to start company v2


[24-Mar-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I think Tesla and SpaceX aren't profitable companies in the traditional sense. But they can sustain high value by doing financial weirdness


[24-Mar-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, that's how it goes. But the previous value usually doesn't transfer over to the new company.


[24-Mar-20 04:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
And they'll have to work it out long enough until they can go public again.


[24-Mar-20 04:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or you have to be there at the start with the initial investment injection


[24-Mar-20 04:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Give ten million in the hopes you can sell that position for a hundred million


[24-Mar-20 04:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
But if that fails you can still write it off as a tax loss


[24-Mar-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
"We're bros right? You can trust me"
Then they get a cash injection


[24-Mar-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
"we're still homies right? we're not gay, yeah?"
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[24-Mar-20 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
I was discussing it earlier in my own server but a lot of billionaires today have more money to spend than France's Kong Louis the Sun King but they often don't spend even a fraction of a percent of what they would as the old French monarchs


[24-Mar-20 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trickle Down can't work because no one is as spendy as old European monarchs anymore.


[24-Mar-20 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the sense of proportion of wealth spent


[24-Mar-20 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like Jeff Bezos can afford to build anything in any city in the US at any cost.


[24-Mar-20 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
But he shopped around for H2


[24-Mar-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I have no idea what they even do with their money


[24-Mar-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
share it with kids?


[24-Mar-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like bitch, you could build a 500,000,000$ new headquarters and not hurt your fortune


[24-Mar-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
They basically pour it into a hole


[24-Mar-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
And reach in and grab a wad now and then


[24-Mar-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bloomberg spent the entire budget of the Avengers movies and then some for his failed run


[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that wasn't even 5%


[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
SO WHERE ARE BLOOMBERGS PASSION PROJECTS


[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
That was hilariously inefficient


[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
WAS THAT IT


[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] illumnious#7938
I was in twitter and this came across

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[24-Mar-20 04:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
These fuckers could put on the largest musical or the biggest movie and not take a loss and pay it entirely out of pocket. Yet they do not


[24-Mar-20 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
What the fuck is up with them


[24-Mar-20 04:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
In order to even use their money that inecefiently they need to be taxed to do it


[24-Mar-20 04:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to see a US government sponsored rendition of Cats


[24-Mar-20 04:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just fork 50,000,000 and then some to a bored army officer and tell him to make Cats and see what happens


[24-Mar-20 04:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally any officer


[24-Mar-20 04:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Walk into Rammstein base and approach the nearest Lt. col


[24-Mar-20 04:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
And go, "Son you're making a stage show. We bought these rights from Andrew Lloyd Weber and it's your job to make it better."


[24-Mar-20 04:44 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/3q5J050oBA?amp=1

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Melania Trump tests negative for coronavirus
First lady Melania Trump tested negative for COVID-19, President Trump said Monday night.
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[24-Mar-20 04:49 AM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[24-Mar-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
she could test however the president wanted


[24-Mar-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
"test"


[24-Mar-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
she's rarely seen in the public sphere anyway


[24-Mar-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://abc.net.au/news/2020-03-24/coronavirus-house-prices-to-fall-unemployment-to-double/12082014

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Economist warns sharp rise in unemployment could trigger major hous...
The spread of coronavirus across Australia could see unemployment reach about 10 per cent and house prices drop 20 per cent, according to some economists.
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[24-Mar-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
They need to actually fall by about 60% worldwide


[24-Mar-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
so when would we see inflation effects from the infinite money printing?


[24-Mar-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
or never because trump


[24-Mar-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
not presently because the value of the dollar is skyrocketing


[24-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
why?


[24-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean I get that most of these money is virtual


[24-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
and, held in check by people never spending ironically


[24-Mar-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
but why is the price skyrocketing?


[24-Mar-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
USD is a "safe currency"


[24-Mar-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
when the world economy crashes, people sell their other holdings and trade in for USD


[24-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
so if USD crashes, it's the end.


[24-Mar-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[24-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
not literally but


[24-Mar-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
wonderful.


[24-Mar-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm watching the legaleagle vid


[24-Mar-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and every time he plays a trump video


[24-Mar-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I cringe super hard


[24-Mar-20 05:33 AM] jlun2#8758
Will USD even crash ever


[24-Mar-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[24-Mar-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489159-death-penalty-abolished-in-colorado

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Death penalty abolished in Colorado
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis has signed legislation into law banning the death penalty in the state.
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[24-Mar-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
22/50.


[24-Mar-20 05:43 AM] Crow#5457
:yay:


[24-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Your_Pal_Billy/status/1242116163674480644

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I'm a neurologist at St. Mark's Hospital and also a Joe Biden supporter. I just saw his recent live stream and I am concerned.

He's clearly recently had brain surgery, probably for a Cerebral Edema (swelling of brain fluid). My guess is that it was caused by untreated LGMA.
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[24-Mar-20 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
ligma balls


[24-Mar-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
joe biden has ligma


[24-Mar-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-woman-husband-died-chloroquine-warns-not-to-trust-trump-2020-3

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'Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure': Woman whos...
"We saw Trump on TV — every channel — and all of his buddies and that this was safe," the woman told NBC News.
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[24-Mar-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
> It's official Trump has killed someone and still won't lose any supporters


[24-Mar-20 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the savior who doesn't take responsibility for anything but made america great again


[24-Mar-20 07:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>NBC News reported that the man, 68, and his wife, 61, both took chloroquine to guard against the novel coronavirus, which causes a potentially fatal disease known as COVID-19. **It's not clear how much chloroquine the man ingested**, and Banner Health said **he and his wife ingested a version of the chemical that's used to clean aquariums.**


[24-Mar-20 07:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:dashlaugh:


[24-Mar-20 07:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There is no cure against stupidity.


[24-Mar-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/business/trump-coronavirus-economy.html

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Trump Considers Reopening Economy, Over Health Experts’ Objections
The president is questioning whether stay-at-home orders have gone too far. But relaxing them could significantly increase the death toll from the coronavirus, health officials warn.
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[24-Mar-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
This idiot is going to get us all killed


[24-Mar-20 08:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, taking direct active steps to make the problem worse is what people voted for


[24-Mar-20 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a majority of people


[24-Mar-20 08:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't say that, did I


[24-Mar-20 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
You didn't


[24-Mar-20 08:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet he;s only doing this because he wants his maga rally back


[24-Mar-20 08:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let's get millions of people killed so he can speak on a cheering stage again!


[24-Mar-20 09:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/489158-senate-on-cusp-of-stimulus-deal-after-agreements-in-key-areas

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Senate on cusp of coronavirus stimulus deal after agreements in key...
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin are on the cusp of a deal for a massive coronavirus stimulus package after settling disagreements over relief for the airline indu
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[24-Mar-20 09:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Mar-20 10:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny-appeals-court-upholds-ruling-that-trump-cant-block-people-on-twitter

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NY appeals court upholds ruling that Trump can't block people on Tw...
A federal appeals court on Monday reaffirmed a lower court ruling that prohibits President Trump fro, blocking users on Twitter.
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[24-Mar-20 10:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) You joke, but I believe that's probably what he thinks is the best part of being president; the rallies


[24-Mar-20 10:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually i am 100% convinced this is the reason he;s pushing for the quarantine end


[24-Mar-20 10:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesnt want to speak in press briefings where journalists question his motives and a doctor contradicts him by getting equal screen time. he wants to speak at rallies where people cheer and suck his dick, while he;s the only person on stage, and he;s willing to force america open to get it


[24-Mar-20 10:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s a narcissist and this virus has stolen his spotlight and the illusion that he is invincible and he wants that back. He has lost the wall of worship blocking out the sounds of heckling and it pisses him off.


[24-Mar-20 10:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a possible stock market rise would only be a bonus to him


[24-Mar-20 10:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even ending the quarantine wouldnt save it since it was in free fall before this pandemic even went into effect


[24-Mar-20 10:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually it would probably make things worse as investors panic about the possibility of being infected


[24-Mar-20 10:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ken_macarthur/status/1242348588933484545

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@10DowningStreet @SadiqKhan @TfL @BBCBreaking @BBCNews @BBCBreakfast still overcrowding at London tube stations this morning while #nhsworkers are trying to get to work. We need ID inspections at the stations This was central line this morning
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[24-Mar-20 10:52 AM] jlun2#8758
Can't wait for replies like "why not just work remotely" or "why not just drive a car"


[24-Mar-20 11:00 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
"why not just work remotely" or "why not just drive a car"

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[24-Mar-20 11:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Mar-20 11:01 AM] jlun2#8758
> 30s
eternally 20s probably then


[24-Mar-20 11:01 AM] jlun2#8758
zoomers are just millenials if you look from far away


[24-Mar-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Mar-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Eric_Jotkoff/status/1242249651434270720?s=20

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https://twitter.com/Eric_Jotkoff/status/1242249651434270720?s=20
The GOP claimed Barack Obama wanted to kill grandma with Obamacare.

10 years later (to the day since the ACA was signed into law), Republicans are going on national TV to literally proposing killing grandparents here.

👇👇👇👇👇 https://t.co/1lTTfuAlVC
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[24-Mar-20 11:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) Do boomers even remember 10 years ago


[24-Mar-20 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not going by the fact that they barely remember how 2016 went down


[24-Mar-20 11:19 AM] ononim#8141

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[24-Mar-20 11:20 AM] ononim#8141
Madrid using an ice ring as impromptu morgue


[24-Mar-20 11:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Killing old people is wrong but if a shitton of them die I'm not going to be sad


[24-Mar-20 11:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All the city-to-city traffic restrictions in Mainland China, except from or to Wuhan, are lifted today.


[24-Mar-20 11:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope they know what they are doing


[24-Mar-20 11:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Primary schools and high schools in all provinces except Hubei will be open in late March or early April


[24-Mar-20 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
It already is late march


[24-Mar-20 11:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But no anounsments about colleges


[24-Mar-20 11:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also, anyone who entered Chinese mainland will be forced to do blood test


[24-Mar-20 11:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well not today... it says "since tomorrow"


[24-Mar-20 12:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIz4y7ni_Go

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Texas lt governor dan Patrick on Tucker Carlson
Texas lieutenant governor dan Patrick on tucker Carlson talking about the coronavirus
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[24-Mar-20 12:27 PM] jlun2#8758
> Live in the America I did
So mostly white?


[24-Mar-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with sacrificial elderly apparently


[24-Mar-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"When i was your age and a major economical disaster happened, we brought out the grandpa sacrifices!"


[24-Mar-20 12:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sacrifice the boomers to Quetzalcoatl


[24-Mar-20 12:46 PM] jlun2#8758
Boomers are an unlimited resource anyways


[24-Mar-20 12:51 PM] illumnious#7938
We’re in the middle of a mid life crisis dammit https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1242416827558498304?s=21

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Keep Charlie Number One. Great Book! https://t.co/fG7YXOCk9R
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[24-Mar-20 01:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/UfVCI6J3HZ?amp=1

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103 passengers from Silver Shadow cruise ship flown to US after ordeal
The Silversea Cruises ship had been stuck in Brazil amid worry over the coronavirus.
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[24-Mar-20 01:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RayWJ/status/1242184369189433348

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The fact that there hasn’t been a nationwide rent-freeze in the U.S. is a damn tragedy. No one should be forced to pay rent during a global pandemic- especially when a huge chunk of the population is confined to their home and can’t work. I’m sorry if you’re going through thi...
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[24-Mar-20 01:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Doin your landlord


[24-Mar-20 01:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Doin doin your landlord


[24-Mar-20 02:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Where did I see that dude?


[24-Mar-20 02:43 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[24-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's a youtube reviewer, as in reviews other videos and news and such


[24-Mar-20 02:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was pretty popular some years ago, dunno about now


[24-Mar-20 02:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Aaaah, I remember him back in 2011. I thought he was from India.


[24-Mar-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
I used to watch him when he was doing political commentary way back.


[24-Mar-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then he was trying to get a job and people kept finding his channel and rejecting him, even though he had pretty mild liberal takes


[24-Mar-20 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I never knew RWJ was political


[24-Mar-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
So he switched to his current schtick.


[24-Mar-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
> I never knew RWJ was political
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

Yeah, his old show was Capital Hill Gangster or something. Basically he'd riff on gaffs in Washington


[24-Mar-20 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
And a lot of old fans got alienated when he switched his format and branding so he could get a job.


[24-Mar-20 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
And then the new format took off


[24-Mar-20 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
So like, he don't need to job hunt


[24-Mar-20 03:00 PM] AaronMk#4499
It'd be funny if it was announced he returned to the old format


[24-Mar-20 03:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is a bad time to be political on YT


[24-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Look at what happened to many political YTers, to point it involved PayPal and bank account closures.


[24-Mar-20 03:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Patreon accounts too.


[24-Mar-20 03:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
[😎 in BreadTube]


[24-Mar-20 03:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1242454768225792001?s=21

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WATCH: After Joe Biden botched the response to the H1N1 virus in 2009, the hosts of @TheView criticized his “irresponsible” conduct.

@JoyVBehar said Biden "doesn’t remember he’s the VP sometimes"

“We’ve seen him make these mistakes again & again,” said another host. #HotTop...
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[24-Mar-20 03:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1242455267603877894?s=21

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Our people want to return to work. They will practice Social Distancing and all else, and Seniors will be watched over protectively & lovingly. We can do two things together. THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE (by far) THAN THE PROBLEM! Congress MUST ACT NOW. We will come back strong!
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[24-Mar-20 03:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Gah


[24-Mar-20 03:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh moments https://twitter.com/realtombergjr/status/1242456665410228234?s=21

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@illumnious_ @JeffreyGuterman @realDonaldTrump Agreeing with a #troll 🙄 @JeffreyGuterman likes to fish it out but obviously can't take it. #Loser
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[24-Mar-20 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[24-Mar-20 03:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Only essential workers should be going to work.
Apparently plane parts are essential now.
I am dead. :trixdisgust:


[24-Mar-20 03:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hopefully it turns out that your plant has switched over to making ventilators, otherwise...


[24-Mar-20 03:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nah. Boeing got to get their cockpit cupholders and monitor frames.
:trixdisgust:


[24-Mar-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489139-the-memo-trumps-coronavirus-briefings-face-criticism

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The Memo: Trump's coronavirus briefings face criticism
President Trump’s daily press briefings on the coronavirus are facing a backlash from critics who say they are hindering rather than helping the nation’s efforts to combat the pandemic.
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[24-Mar-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/489173-japans-prime-minister-to-propose-1-year-delay-of-olympics-report

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IOC, Japan's prime minister agree to postpone Olympics for 1 year
Japan's prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Thomas Bach agreed on Tuesday to postpone this summer's Olympics by one year due to the coronavirus pandemic,
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[24-Mar-20 04:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Olympics in Tokyo went well just once


[24-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd be surprised if dems don't try to push Cuomo for presidency in 2024...


[24-Mar-20 04:44 PM] byte[]#2610
AOC


[24-Mar-20 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
wow holy crap what a market gain


[24-Mar-20 04:45 PM] byte[]#2610
+8%


[24-Mar-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently no circuit breaker when numbers up


[24-Mar-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Very fair


[24-Mar-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
number big life good


[24-Mar-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/489209-500-billion-corporate-relief-program-will-include-inspector-general-oversight

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$500 billion corporate relief program will include inspector genera...
A $500 billion corporate assistance program for distressed industries proposed in the $2 trillion Senate coronavirus stimulus bill will include an inspector general and oversight committee, according to a senior admi
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[24-Mar-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@AaronMk Implying anyone on 4chan has a job


[24-Mar-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Green new what now? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1242422012682919937?s=21

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This is not about the ridiculous Green New Deal. It is about putting our great workers and companies BACK TO WORK!
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[24-Mar-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-pandemic-trump-should-not-tell-americans-back-to-work-2020-3

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Going back to work next week won't save the economy. It will just k...
Opinion | President Donald Trump wants to try to boost the economy by easing restrictions and returning people to work. That would be a grave mistake.
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[24-Mar-20 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215 (pinned)
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[24-Mar-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[24-Mar-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
why do we have such fantastic memes


[24-Mar-20 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cuomo, Newsom, or Pritzker are all handling their states better than the federal government


[24-Mar-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
should go on vanguard now and transfer my etfs to bonds


[24-Mar-20 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
while the market's still up 8%


[24-Mar-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-retweeted-clip-of-fauci-face-palming-behind-him-2020-3

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Trump retweeted a clip of Fauci facepalming behind him amid specula...
Fauci has often stepped in to correct false information Trump has shared as the coronavirus pandemic has esclated.
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[24-Mar-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
deep state department


[24-Mar-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-could-shut-down-post-office-by-june-congressional-leaders-2020-3

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Coronavirus could shut down the Post Office in less than 3 months, ...
Any disruption to the U.S. Postal Service could also hamper mail vote efforts for the upcoming election.
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[24-Mar-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like presidential elections in the United States matter anyway


[24-Mar-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this one kinda does


[24-Mar-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden vs Trump?


[24-Mar-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't know fam


[24-Mar-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well biden is easier to impeach down the road


[24-Mar-20 05:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And his cabinet is likely to be more competent


[24-Mar-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it would inspire more democratic congress members


[24-Mar-20 05:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the bit that I think is the most important - Trump *himself* couldn't get away with half the idiocy he does if not for his freundeskreis in the white house


[24-Mar-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and his cult in the senate


[24-Mar-20 05:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
plus a handful of other hand-picked top-level officials that his best bud in the senate is allowing to remain as "acting"


[24-Mar-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think it's more effective to bet our odds on the senate


[24-Mar-20 05:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but aside from Trump and McConnell, the single most destructive guy in washington imo is Bill Barr


[24-Mar-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Biden wins but the senate remains GOP, Biden may not display much resistance, he has a history as a political doormat


[24-Mar-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is also looking at very putinesque plans of just circumventing congress entirely


[24-Mar-20 05:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr's the one really pushing a fascist agenda, and I use the term completely unironically


[24-Mar-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god barr


[24-Mar-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we got biden in, then barr would likely be fired almost immediately


[24-Mar-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Would he?


[24-Mar-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden compromised with literal segregationists


[24-Mar-20 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He has no integrity


[24-Mar-20 05:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden *also* would be pressured by his DNC friends who, while more or less conservative, all have a serious bone to pick with Barr


[24-Mar-20 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, if biden's a puppet, then the question is simply who's pulling the strings


[24-Mar-20 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[24-Mar-20 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we should be keeping a very close eye on his VP candidates


[24-Mar-20 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why the DNC can't just win the presidency this election


[24-Mar-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It needs the house and senate too


[24-Mar-20 05:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm still hoping for a natural disaster to just hurry up and end the grand experiment already


[24-Mar-20 05:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it doesn't seem like the course can be corrected from internal forces anymore


[24-Mar-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still wiating for aliens to independance day the white house


[24-Mar-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quick while trump cant go golfing!


[24-Mar-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point biden is going to win nomination unless he actually dies before a nominee can be announced, so we jsut need to choose his handlers in the generals


[24-Mar-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
you're all going to end up voting for perfection over progress again smh


[24-Mar-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m still voting bernie in the primaries


[24-Mar-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i;m still hoping by some miracle he gets in the generals


[24-Mar-20 05:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, that's the plan here too


[24-Mar-20 05:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It would've been *nice* if the options were a little more balanced


[24-Mar-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
contingency still needs to be planned for biden though


[24-Mar-20 05:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but given that every single other candidate who dropped out endorsed biden *for some reason* the contingency plans all seem to revolve around things that are more or less out of the public's control


[24-Mar-20 05:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're in a situation where a guy who never should've tried to run is our best hope against a guy who shouldn't even be allowed to


[24-Mar-20 05:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because even though independents etc are smart enough to recognize Sanders as being the *actual* best hope, none of the political institutions want him


[24-Mar-20 05:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the propaganda they're pumping out is working


[24-Mar-20 05:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've heard friends say they could never support a candidate who endorses communism, with a straight face, citing Sanders' remarks about Cuba in the debates


[24-Mar-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my own dad has said progressivism is pie in the sky antics and congressmen will never vote with it


[24-Mar-20 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is average Democratic politician.


[24-Mar-20 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is not going to switch from that, ever.


[24-Mar-20 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
His voting record is always about the average of those of all current Democrats in Congress.


[24-Mar-20 06:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden is a puppet with hundreds of strings.


[24-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Republicans want to limit executive compensation based on 2019 earnings, a lucrative year for corporate America, while Democrats want the limit based on a multiple of median worker salaries."


[24-Mar-20 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of a big ideological thing right there.


[24-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's not Trump vs Biden


[24-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
it's Trump vs Democratic Party, as an entity.


[24-Mar-20 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
#democracy #willofthepeople


[24-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the insane individual wakko tycoon who won't trust experts vs. the DEMOCRATIC BLOB


[24-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of iconic of what the parties value.


[24-Mar-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
(as opposed to what actual Americans as a whole value, which would be Bernie the guy who actually wants to fix shit)


[24-Mar-20 06:50 PM] jlun2#8758
how do people keep forming these blobs but always leaving me behind :sad:


[24-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of the blob is to leave you behind.


[24-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a blob you're supposed to be in.


[24-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a blob of "electability"


[24-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially Biden looks at what gets actually elected in every state, and runs with it.


[24-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "electability" argument is essentially "don't fix what isn't broken"


[24-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
and when it is, pretend it's not.


[24-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, it's super broken, but the pretense is that the 2 party system is the best system and this is all groovy.


[24-Mar-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489251-trump-says-he-hopes-to-have-economy-reopen-by-easter

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Trump says he hopes to have economy reopen by Easter
President Trump on Tuesday said he hopes to have the country’s economy back up and running by Easter -- Sunday, April 12 -- his most concrete goal to date for easing off restrictions meant to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
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[24-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
April 12th will be when hospitals start turning away people over 60 at this rate...


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I really really hope the dems are storing footage of every Trump moment to use for attack ad supercuts


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-wants-us-opened-up-raring-go-by-easter-2020-3?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Trump said he wants the US to ease coronavirus restrictions and be ...
This goes against the advice of top experts like Dr. Fauci, who on Friday warned the US will need at least several more weeks of self-isolation.
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[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] illumnious#7938
WHAT THE FUCK


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't need to have biden talk when you can just use trump


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] illumnious#7938
NIGGA


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] illumnious#7938
STOP


[24-Mar-20 07:17 PM] illumnious#7938
I HATE YOU RIGHT NOW TRUMP


[24-Mar-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
At this point Biden could be a sign saying "what the expert said" and he'd be a million times better than Trump so...


[24-Mar-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
why


[24-Mar-20 07:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The Numbers™ need to be Big™ again


[24-Mar-20 07:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just remember, in these trying times...Trump appears onstage talking about a health epidemic surrounded by the vice president and attorney general


[24-Mar-20 07:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the expert in charge of this facepalmed when he was behind the president


[24-Mar-20 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/SortaBad/status/1241904263254556672

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your best friend (@SortaBad)
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who had “the state of New York encourages you to stop eating ass” on their 2020 Bingo card
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[24-Mar-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rats, my bingo card had the UK.


[24-Mar-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Raptorshy


[24-Mar-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
@IAmADeliciousPotato how are the numbers looking now?


[24-Mar-20 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Italy starting to chill now

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[24-Mar-20 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
so I'm estimating about a month to go for them


[24-Mar-20 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
US not chillin'

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[24-Mar-20 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:wheeze:


[24-Mar-20 07:53 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think we're in the constant part though tbh


[24-Mar-20 07:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think the cases spiked because the virus hit NYC


[24-Mar-20 07:54 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and also because more testing happened


[24-Mar-20 07:55 PM] Honahue#0656
tbf US has a much larger population and we are really bad at doing anything with concideration for others


[24-Mar-20 07:55 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598

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[24-Mar-20 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
New York City to cease existing


[24-Mar-20 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
I go to upstate for BSA work


[24-Mar-20 07:56 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
basically, the US has quite a few cases, but about half are in New York


[24-Mar-20 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Only two kids from the New York troops are left. The rest died or are too crippled for the mountains


[24-Mar-20 07:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Troops from out of state are much well off


[24-Mar-20 07:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
There is an awkward tension


[24-Mar-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-grandparents-are-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-their-grandkids-2020-03-23

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Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says grandparents are willing to die to ...
As the coronavirus outbreak batters the economy and businesses close, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Monday that plenty of seniors would be willing to...
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[24-Mar-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
all right, you first


[24-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to consider


[24-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
New York has good healthcare and testing


[24-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the US does not.


[24-Mar-20 08:09 PM] Honahue#0656
The Line was up 5% this morning the promise of human sacrifice has pleased The Line


[24-Mar-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/donald-trump-coronavirus-deaths-vs-economy

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“We’re gonna have to make some difficult trade-offs.”
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[24-Mar-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

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[24-Mar-20 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Latest right wing conspiracy theory is that Biden will get the nomination stolen from him and Cuomo will get it


[24-Mar-20 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[24-Mar-20 09:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1242214528642879497

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Wtf is NOAA gonna do about coronavirus? $33,200,000 for new facilities? Why, Nancy?
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[24-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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If Federal agencies use any banks owned by white men, they gonna have to splain themselves
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[24-Mar-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/489313-dem-leaders-forecast-at-least-two-more-coronavirus-relief-bills

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Dem leaders forecast at least two more coronavirus relief bills
Even as lawmakers in both chambers are racing this week to enact a massive coronavirus relief package — the third in as many weeks — House Democratic leaders are telling members to expect at least two more stimulus measures in the weeks and months
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[24-Mar-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/department-of-homeland-security/489312-first-immigrant-in-ice-detention

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First immigrant in ICE detention center tests positive for coronavirus
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials on Tuesday announced that the first immigrant being held in
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[24-Mar-20 09:44 PM] Honahue#0656
abolish ICE


[24-Mar-20 09:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and how would abolishing ice solve this?


[24-Mar-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
can't have infectious concentration camps if there are no concentration camps


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
wouldn't be putting people in detention centers


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for starters it would stop their unauthorized raids


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
yes what byte said


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the person likely already had it before being tested at the center.


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
who cares


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
now there's a tinderbox scenario


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
everyone at the center is going to get it


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the person would otherwise be walking the streets right now. untested and spreading it to others.


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who cares, they got thrown in with the rest of the prisoners anyway


[24-Mar-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
which, again, would not have otherwise happened if there were not concentration camps


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll be doing that anyway to the rest of the inmates


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ice wont section them off


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Much, much more likely an ICE worker got it while in whatever nearby US town and took it with them to the facility


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Honahue#0656
or they could shelter in place like regular people, immigrants aren't like wolves wandering city streets


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the person was tested. they'll have him separated from the rest of the center population.


[24-Mar-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
it is probably too late


[24-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they were tested, they had symptoms, if they had symptoms, they've been shedding for days


[24-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Honahue#0656
concidering the track record of Ice they probably had him lick all the blankets for the other detainees in the hopes it would reduce the population


[24-Mar-20 09:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
again. better they spotted it now than not at all.


[24-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
at least this way they can treat the person


[24-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and give the person the care needed


[24-Mar-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
I have little faith ICE will make more than a bare minimum effort and it only will be done out of pure self-preservation


[24-Mar-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
not out of any actual concern for the detainees


[24-Mar-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better they spotted the bubonic plague now when the whole village probably already has it


[24-Mar-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the person is compromised enough to be fatally hurt by the virus, ICE will let them die and probably cite some bullshit reason like "budget" and claim they did all they could, while the most they did was put them on a cot in a corner and threw an ice pack on their forehead


[24-Mar-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-world-health-organisation-us-epicentre-pandemic-donald-trump-covid-2020-3

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The US could soon become the epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic ...
President Trump is insisting the US will soon be 'open for business,' but the World Health Organization acknowledges a far darker possibility.
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[24-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Raptorshy#6268
@Nebbie Aww man


[24-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Raptorshy#6268
What am I going to eat if I can't eat ass


[24-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
@Raptorshy I've got a solution for you


[24-Mar-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/15-most-in-demand-jobs-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-3

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[24-Mar-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-gave-a-disastrous-town-hall-full-of-misinformation-2020-3

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[24-Mar-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have shit in economic advantage


[24-Mar-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you squandered that in 4 years by chasing away every trading partner we ever had


[24-Mar-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
> “It’s very tough to say to people, ’Hey keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner, we want you to keep spending because there’s some politician that thinks GDP growth is what counts,” Gates said.

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[24-Mar-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Lol bill gates


[24-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Honahue#0656
sacrifice yourself so The Line will go up


[24-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Honahue#0656
The Line is life


[24-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not tough if you're Trump


[24-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Honahue#0656
it's nice to know we've gotten so far as a speices to replace Volcano God with Stock Market


[24-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
at least the Stock Market doesn't seem to be as picky about virginity


[24-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why can't we just order things from home and have take-out, that does stuff too


[24-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Honahue#0656
capitalism is based on constant consumption


[24-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Honahue#0656
constant increasing consumption


[24-Mar-20 10:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[24-Mar-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Mar-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent you joke, but I really hate the fact food labelling is confusing as hell.  Instead of "is this healthy Y/N" we get "vegan, gluten free, soy free, antibiotic free, raw, nonGMO, organic, fat free, low carb free ranging dinner"


[24-Mar-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's going to get the virus and then he's going to hold a press conference about how he isnt chinese and thus does not have the virus


[24-Mar-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 that labeling is responding to consumer choice


[24-Mar-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the gmo stuff is stupid, and free range is usually somewhat of a lie, but the rest is pretty much valid


[24-Mar-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
also don't forget about food allergies


[24-Mar-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
and celiac


[24-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Honahue#0656
gluten free is a good label most of the otherstuff is marketing wank


[24-Mar-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
allergen labeling is good imo


[24-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I was about to say, gluten free almost borders on bullshit just because the majority of the people that seem to buy it don't understand it


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but it's good for people actually with gluten sensitivity


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Good label to have still


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
WUT CEILING DISEASE? I JUST NO WANT VACCINE WHEAT.


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
etc.


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Honahue#0656
but yes gluten free for most people is a dumb fad


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Raptorshy#6268
People just suck sometimes


[24-Mar-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
people in NY are discouraged from sucking ass

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[24-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My sister has celiac disease :<


[24-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Honahue#0656
like keto or paleo diets


[24-Mar-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
keto is indicated well for diabetics


[24-Mar-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
paleo is just retarded


[24-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Things that could work technically but are a really convoluted way to avoid "eat less, exercise more"


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Keto works as a crash diet, do it for 1-2 months and you lose plenty of weight


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
eat ass, exercise whore


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
More than that and you want to kill yourself


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Honahue#0656
keto is fine if your a bodybuilder trying to cut for a competition


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Like those healthy eating habits are what's going to *keep* the weight off


[24-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Honahue#0656
though if you're a competative bodybuilder keto is the least bad thing you're probably doing


[24-Mar-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
just be michael phelps and eat 12000kcal per day


[24-Mar-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
what could go wrong


[24-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh boy, Trump's not using the DPA because McDonalds is giving burgers to truckers on the curb instead of the drive thru, god bless america!

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[24-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally something Pence just said on live television


[24-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Honahue#0656
anecdotally a diabetic friend of mine tried keto and it didn't work out for her


[24-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Honahue#0656
but she has it really under control now with just regular diet stuff


[24-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Honahue#0656
20+ years with no retinal degridation is almost unheard of so proud of her


[24-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Coworker with prediabitic risk or whatever the term is has been on keto for 8ish years, seems fairly healthy


[24-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Honahue#0656
you can be healthy on keto but the skills it takes are equally applicable to portion control diets


[24-Mar-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not just about managing weight


[24-Mar-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
keto is about controlling pGlu which is vital for diabetes


[25-Mar-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kentucky-mayor-warns-citizens-coronavirus-is-a-big-f-deal-2020-3

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[25-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
seizure warning


[25-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>tfw no no-lower jaw gf


[25-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[25-Mar-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/under-18-years-old-dies-coronavirus-in-los-angeles-2020-3

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[25-Mar-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[25-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[25-Mar-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well hello Malthus.


[25-Mar-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> reach an apex in 14 to 21 days
that was fast. so is it ending soon?


[25-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not by a long shot


[25-Mar-20 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apex really just means halfway point


[25-Mar-20 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the curve is a bell.


[25-Mar-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the us population is also far greater than italy's population so this shit is going to hit hard when it gets truly going


[25-Mar-20 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or rather, the curve *should* be a bell


[25-Mar-20 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right now the US curve is just continuing to ramp exponentially (not logistically!)


[25-Mar-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're already shaping up to be in worse shape than italy was, and new york in particular is hosting *half* the recorded cases on the graph, which is partly a result of population and mostly a result of us not testing


[25-Mar-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
y=1/√π*erf(x)


[25-Mar-20 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iow, whatever the numbers look like, the reality is probably much worse. There are some people who've extrapolated an estimated number, but those estimates are already out of date


[25-Mar-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
oof(x)


[25-Mar-20 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also a casual reminder that the president hails from NYC...although these days he's trying to act like he's from florida


[25-Mar-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he acts more like he;s from vegas


[25-Mar-20 12:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, vegas has successful casinos


[25-Mar-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No he acts like he's from the upper crust of NY


[25-Mar-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're shady as fukk


[25-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloomberg is not abnormal for them.


[25-Mar-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking vegas gambler, not casino owner


[25-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider that Bloomberg is basically LIBERAL by their standards.


[25-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real estate moguls in New York built their fortunes off of exploiting second generation immigrant families to shit in a city that's got too many damn people and thus no mobility.


[25-Mar-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a place where Walmart is kept out by greater evils.


[25-Mar-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/1Jwo5qc78QU

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[25-Mar-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
This video just leaves you with a profound sense of frustration with politics


[25-Mar-20 01:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[25-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponythinking:


[25-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
while Russia is pretending the problem doesn't exist, it's not that big of one, and that they're handling it decisively, all at the same time, China actually gets the job done, or so it seems.


[25-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess when your society allows for a military blockade of a city on demand, it makes things more effecient


[25-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
although what's more suprising is the problem being apparently confined only to a single city.


[25-Mar-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it was nowhere this easy wasn't it.


[25-Mar-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
They've lied about everything before, they're doing it now, and they'll do it again


[25-Mar-20 01:35 AM] ononim#8141
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La Presidenta en Sucre señaló que el proceso por racismo en el caso 24 de mayo de 2008, fue infundado y tergiversado.
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[25-Mar-20 01:35 AM] ononim#8141
bruh moment from the coup president


[25-Mar-20 01:36 AM] ononim#8141
> The president, Jeanine Áñez, during her speech at the Freedom House in Sucre, asked to prevent the return of the "savages" to power


[25-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Mar-20 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or we could pay our bills using landlord heads as currency.


[25-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a shelf-life that should just barely last thru the worst of things.

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[25-Mar-20 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185

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[25-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnd1jKcfBRE

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[25-Mar-20 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Typical work day in UK starts 9am. UK Hours later: Stay at home

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[25-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still better messaging than Trump.


[25-Mar-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[25-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
...why did Twilight have to become the face of :beheaded: :<


[25-Mar-20 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Because she is a princess.


[25-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Opponent#3498
the choice of authority figures is rather broad though.


[25-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and she's... probably the last individual on that list that would fit. Ah well.


[25-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight is super-priviliged


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's like half raised by royalty


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
her brother is in charge of the only law enforcement anywhere


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
her babysitter runs a vassal state


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
her mentor runs a nation and then grants it to her.


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] ononim#8141
because most of emojis on this server is twi that's why


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
She had a personal tower with a library


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then was given a NEW LIBRARY when she moved


[25-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
by the government


[25-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then a magic thing granted her a whole castle


[25-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
with a real-time map


[25-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twilight basically was born on a silver platter.


[25-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then everything else was hoofed to her on it without her having to get up.


[25-Mar-20 02:50 AM] ononim#8141
19 or so twimojis


[25-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd be the obvious one to behead in an uprising.


[25-Mar-20 02:52 AM] jlun2#8758
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[25-Mar-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shhh, Luna will help you, filly.


[25-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Mar-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as far as I can tell, behind partially-closed doors they still do


[25-Mar-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just institutionalized in a different way


[25-Mar-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
...and given that, for _reasons_ Celestia made sure the general public knowns precious little about her, someone might actually give it a go. Yeah, good point. The inevitable failure and pain would follow, but the intent's what matters.


[25-Mar-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Celestia actually just has huge magic orgies


[25-Mar-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
...with foals around, of course

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[25-Mar-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, when the princess doesn't smile at the preschool


[25-Mar-20 03:10 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was this >>1461369


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[25-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means the foals aren't worthy.


[25-Mar-20 03:11 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought that was Luna


[25-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Luna is just better at grabbing up strays.


[25-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Celestia goes for whole schools.


[25-Mar-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Foals are just highly mobile cakes.


[25-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
This is supposed to be accurate to what rich recluses actually do >:v


[25-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
they bang little kids


[25-Mar-20 03:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Her most faithful ones get to join her once they grow up.


[25-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some bad implications to the idea Luna can go to a school opening ceremony, SMILE SOMEWHAT BADLY, and it's seen as doom.


[25-Mar-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/brazils-jair-bolsonaro-says-coronavirus-crisis-is-a-media-trick

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Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro says coronavirus crisis is a media trick
Far-right president has resisted strong measures to stop spread of what he calls a ‘little flu’
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[25-Mar-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it only makes sense in a society where the whims of the powerful decide people's futures


[25-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and implicitly they hav so much power they can't be assailed in the legal system and thus can get away with rape and slavery and such.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That whole ep was scary in implications.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were threats of timberwolves eating ponies and Luna messed up a single meeting.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
or people still see her as Nightmare Moon. The cannibalistic monster of legends, that's been... sort of redeemed? But you can't easily shake what you heard your entire life.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seemed like nobody else at the meeting had the CAPABILITY to do anything.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[25-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ep made it clear nopony cared about NMM


[25-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just saw Luna as the new Celestia for a day


[25-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and held her to the same standards


[25-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
one bad meeting and one bad smile and a bunch of mayors are shaken thinking society's gonna die with nothing they can do and a preschool is like, thinking of closing.


[25-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a huge wtf


[25-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It implies Equestria has basically no civil service or agencies to deal with threats, and that the princesses can utterly fukk over things.


[25-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm not debating _this_, seing as how you were utterly wrong yet utterly adamant about cider squeesy thing. Nothing I'd say would convince you anyway.


[25-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe you should watch the episode.


[25-Mar-20 03:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489251-trump-says-he-hopes-to-have-economy-reopen-by-easter what

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Trump says he hopes to have economy reopen by Easter
President Trump on Tuesday said he hopes to have the country “opened up” by Easter — Sunday, April 12 — his most concrete goal to date for easing off restrictions meant to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
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[25-Mar-20 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
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[25-Mar-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

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Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern St...
The 42 minute recording, acquired by James Carter IV, confirms Atwater’s incendiary remarks and places them in context.
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[25-Mar-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
> You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”


[25-Mar-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
I read that before; my thoughts on US collapse it this: >>2240601


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[25-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ

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Exclusive: Lee Atwater's Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern St...
In 1981, the legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater, after a decade as South Carolina's most effective Republican operative, was working in Ronald Reagan's White House when he was interviewed by Alexander Lamis, a political scientist at Case Western Reserve Univers...
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[25-Mar-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/white-house-senate-strike-deal-on-2-trillion-coronavirus-stimulus-package/

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White House, Senate leaders strike deal on $2 trillion coronavirus ...
Senate leaders and the White House struck a deal early Wednesday morning on a $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package to aid an economy that’s been hampered by the rapidly worsening pandemic. “At …
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[25-Mar-20 07:59 AM] illumnious#7938
Nigga what the fuck https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-was-most-prepared-country-in-the-world-for-pandemics-johns-hopkins-study-found-in-2019

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The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by top Democrats that the Trump ad...
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[25-Mar-20 08:00 AM] illumnious#7938
This gotta be a mistake


[25-Mar-20 08:01 AM] illumnious#7938
Y’all bitches better tell me what the fucks going on


[25-Mar-20 08:12 AM] Midknight#9798
Well, you can be the best prepared doomsday prepper in the world, but if some blowhard runs a bulldozer into the side of your bugout shack and buries your supplies, you're in deep shit 🙂


[25-Mar-20 08:17 AM] Midknight#9798
and then you dig down to your supplies and discover your neighbors already stole all the TP and crackers... well, now things are bad


[25-Mar-20 08:17 AM] illumnious#7938
That’s where the *now you’ve fucked up* comes


[25-Mar-20 08:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or when you find out that supplies are past before best date for a week


[25-Mar-20 08:19 AM] illumnious#7938
Still


[25-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[25-Mar-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[25-Mar-20 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
cawmmunism


[25-Mar-20 10:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-suggests-coronavirus-aid-to-governors-that-treat-us-well-2020-3

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"It's a two-way street," Trump said about discussions he has had with state governors about providing them with federal aid.
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[25-Mar-20 10:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd like a source other than fox to tell me the deets of those studies (from 2019? *after* we slashed our pandemic response 80%?) 'cause tbh the headline seems fishy


[25-Mar-20 10:15 AM] ononim#8141
I think it is time to remind people what sort of 🤡 is 🇷🇺  up to


[25-Mar-20 10:15 AM] ononim#8141
```Russian Federation, united by thousands year history, preserving the memory of [our] ancestors, who gave us ideals and faith in the God, and also the continuity of development of the Russian state, recognises historical state unity.```


[25-Mar-20 10:15 AM] ononim#8141
and yes the actual things concerning how government function are more important but I feel this is pretty telling


[25-Mar-20 10:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh yeah, the country that's bigger than china and europe, that has fewer cases than the *phillipines*


[25-Mar-20 10:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
completely and totally reliable source of information


[25-Mar-20 10:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Granted, social distancing is like their national sport but


[25-Mar-20 10:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/25/asia/india-coronavirus-doctors-discrimination-intl-hnk/index.html

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Doctors in India evicted from their homes as coronavirus fear spreads
As the global coronavirus pandemic worsens by the day, fear is swelling in India -- and frontline medical workers are bearing the brunt of public panic.
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[25-Mar-20 10:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, if you take aquarium treatment tablets, you won't be counted among the deaths attributed to coronavirus. Help your president and do your part!


[25-Mar-20 10:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:bigbrain:


[25-Mar-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/medical-masks-auctioned-for-huge-markup-while-hospitals-run-out


[25-Mar-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Mar-20 11:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/gleeful-neo-nazis-see-echoes-of-the-1930s-as-america-plunges-into-a-coronavirus-crisis/

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[25-Mar-20 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52033845

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Prince Charles tests positive for coronavirus
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[25-Mar-20 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/white-house-senate-reach-deal-trillion-dollar-coronavirus-stimulus-package-2020-3-1029029357

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Deal on $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package reached between th...
Senate leaders and the White House reached a deal on a roughly $2 trillion economic stimulus package with the novel coronavirus threatening near...
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[25-Mar-20 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/economic-outlook-pmi-coronavirus-drives-biggest-contraction-since-2009-record-2020-3-1029027676

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IHS Markit's composite purchasing managers index plummeted to 40.5 in March from 49.6, reaching a record low for the metric and posting its stee...
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[25-Mar-20 02:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[25-Mar-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim I once (at the height of the 2015-2016) thought this was just a meme, to villify the russians.


[25-Mar-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
but unfortunately it's not :(


[25-Mar-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
they're dead serious about this. And, since traditionally Russia had a tzar (or a party leader, same shit different name), they need to return to that one now as well.


[25-Mar-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
And now Marxism the Musical https://youtu.be/B7EgQXMV8nM

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[25-Mar-20 02:48 PM] Opponent#3498
well


[25-Mar-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
113 confirmed cases, 4 deaths, and the government's response over here is to lock down the borders, compulsory hospitalisation of suspects etc. Basicly a panic.


[25-Mar-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
rip


[25-Mar-20 02:55 PM] Opponent#3498
also I kind of wonder how does this impact the war effort.


[25-Mar-20 02:55 PM] Opponent#3498
if it does.


[25-Mar-20 03:31 PM] byte[]#2610
stimulus bill passed, and then stonks fell

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[25-Mar-20 03:31 PM] byte[]#2610
:twismug:


[25-Mar-20 03:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
When did it pass on gmt-4?


[25-Mar-20 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
about 2am edt this morning


[25-Mar-20 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
9AM ish your time I guess


[25-Mar-20 04:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, wrong person


[25-Mar-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1242852280560431104?s=21

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The government depleted its stockpile of N95 masks while Biden was Vice President.

The Obama-Biden Administration was advised by experts to replenish them, but they did not, directly contributing to today’s shortage.

Can Biden explain why they didn’t?
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[25-Mar-20 05:38 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe they simply wanted to sacrifice  2.5% pop to make the line go up? Oh wait.


[25-Mar-20 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
you need to be a special kinda dumbfuck to vote for this guy in 2020. Let's see how many of them there are.


[25-Mar-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
even for single-issue votes re: gun control, there has to be a fucking line. Pretty sure the comment about acceptable losses is the one.


[25-Mar-20 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
although to be fair if I was 60+ with the typical US background (alone and forgotten immediately post-retirement by everyone), I'd be strongly considering suicide anyway


[25-Mar-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
they missed their chance to vote for sanders


[25-Mar-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
who is surprisingly not very anti-gun


[25-Mar-20 06:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Can this guy just go to hell right now https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1242840063303659527?s=21

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[25-Mar-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/489470-mcconnell-says-2t-bill-is-emergency-relief-and-not-a-stimulus

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McConnell says $2T bill is 'emergency relief' and not a 'stimulus'
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Wednesday argued the $2 trillion package that Congress is expected to pass this week should be thought of as “emergency relief” and not a “stimulus” measure.
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[25-Mar-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/489449-cuomo-numbers-dont-work-in-terrible-senate-stimulus-package

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Cuomo: 'Numbers don't work' in 'terrible' Senate stimulus package
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[25-Mar-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-usps-shutdown-chaos-amazon-2020-3

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Lawmakers are sounding the alarm on the coronavirus shuttering the ...
Amazon leans on the USPS for about a third of deliveries, and that dependence is even stronger in rural areas.
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[25-Mar-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/489472-glenn-beck-id-rather-die-from-coronavirus-than-kill-the-country-from-economic

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Glenn Beck: 'I'd rather die' from coronavirus 'than kill the countr...
Glenn Beck declared Tuesday that he'd "rather die" from coronavirus "than kill the country."
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[25-Mar-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well good, then die


[25-Mar-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[25-Mar-20 06:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Wheez https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1242872628429324289?s=21

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[25-Mar-20 06:56 PM] illumnious#7938
> well good, then die
@prism stryder(intexda)  I’ll be waiting for that to happen


[25-Mar-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-bailout-coronavirus-crisis-controversy-2020-3

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Boeing is expected to get billions of dollars in bailouts from the ...
A provision tucked into the Senate bailout offers $17 billion in loans to companies "critical to maintaining national security," with Boeing in mind.
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[25-Mar-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
sheesh


[25-Mar-20 07:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
does it say who introduced that provision?


[25-Mar-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely the gop


[25-Mar-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
*The funds are split between payroll grants for airline workers, which will be distributed through the carriers, and loans to the airlines themselves.*


[25-Mar-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
hm


[25-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
imo it's not horrible.


[25-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
they did get shafted massively.


[25-Mar-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a problem in that they don't seem to have any cash reserves, but even if they would, they wouldn't be prepared for this


[25-Mar-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/people-with-covid-19-killed-ramzan-kadyrov-2020-3

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People with COVID-19 who won't self-isolate should be killed, says ...
The threat was taken as credible because of Kadyrov's long history of allegedly murdering people who displease him.
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[25-Mar-20 07:15 PM] Opponent#3498
'allegedly' 😂


[25-Mar-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Mar-20 07:18 PM] illumnious#7938
mm


[25-Mar-20 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/we-already-paid-for-covid-19-treatments-we-cannot-let-big-pharma-make-us-pay-again/?utm_source=push_notifications

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There’s much we don’t yet know about COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. We don’t know how long the pandemic will last, when a vaccine will be developed, or how many lives antiviral medications can save. But there’s one thing we know for sure: U.S. taxpayers...
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[25-Mar-20 07:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trumps-in-way-over-his-head-and-his-own-businesses-are-failing-and-his-desperate-flailing-will-kill-people/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump’s in way over his head and his own businesses are failing — a...
You have to feel sorry for President Trump. He’s under a lot of pressure and he got some very bad news this week. Sure, the coronavirus pandemic is racing through the American population like an out-of-control locomotive. And yes, massive numbers of Americans have abruptly los...
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[25-Mar-20 07:43 PM] illumnious#7938
not so new but he is an ass


[25-Mar-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
exchanged all my stonks for bonds

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[25-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea of a landlord evicting someone for being a doctor in a pandemic is revolting.


[25-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fact that it can happen is a sign that drastic action must be taken.


[25-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Landlords should lose basically every right modern capitalism has given them.


[25-Mar-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Property rights must die in a fire.


[25-Mar-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Why are so few Germans dying from the coronavirus? Experts wonder https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/why-are-so-few-germans-dying-coronavirus-experts-wonder-n1168361

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Why are so few Germans dying from the coronavirus? Experts wonder
"I would be happy if we can come back in two months' time and still be able to talk about what Germany did right," one expert said.
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[25-Mar-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
> exchanged all my stonks for bonds
@byte[]  Lé stonks


[25-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real news here is Germany can test 160k people in a week


[25-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's way more than the US, which has a larger population


[25-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
basically, the numbers in the US are likely to stall solely because we can't test people.


[25-Mar-20 08:24 PM] illumnious#7938
America is full of shit


[25-Mar-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie stall? fantastic, back to work then! ~Trump


[25-Mar-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-stimulus-check-how-much-money-youll-get-paid-report-2020-3

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You'd need to make less than $75,000 to get the maximum coronavirus...
People who made $99,000 and couples who made $198,000 wouldn't be eligible for a direct payment from the US government under the Senate's bill.
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[25-Mar-20 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489505-montana-gop-spent-100k-to-get-green-party-on-the-ballot-report

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Montana GOP spent $100K to get Green Party on the ballot: report
The Montana GOP spent $100,000 to get the Green Party qualified to appear on the ballot, the Missoulian reported Wednesday.
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[25-Mar-20 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How is this not super illegal


[25-Mar-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait, what


[25-Mar-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would the gop want the green party on the ballet?


[25-Mar-20 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To split votes on the left.


[25-Mar-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they're terrified of Bullock.


[25-Mar-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who has a really, really good chance in the Senate race


[25-Mar-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[25-Mar-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kpax.com/news/coronavirus/live-gov-bullock-providing-montana-covid-19-update

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Gov. Bullock extends business, school closures to April 10
Gov. Steve Bullock addressed the state to provide an update about the latest information on the pandemic and announce additional directives on Montana’s response to COVID-19.
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[25-Mar-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article241479931.html


[25-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking same shit with the Libertarian party btw


[25-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans put in a plant who then dropped out


[25-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
and now another Republican is the Libertarian candidate.


[25-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But...that only hurts them.


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially in Montana.


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, the idea is to sabotage Libertarians.


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that vote splitting doesn't happen on the right.


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, oh


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're engineering vote splitting on BOTH sides.


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So four candidates, how do they figure the GOP one gets the most exactly?


[25-Mar-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is Green party siphons liberals, Libertarians that normally siphon conservatives don't.


[25-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because the Libertarian party is actually often on the ballot here, they couldn't just eliminate it.


[25-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in the confusion, name recognition falls away


[25-Mar-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bullock is really well-known


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, he beat Gianforte


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
in 2016


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unrelated but apparently Seth Moulton is quarantining for coronavirus


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Midknight#9798
I would imagine name recognition only becomes *more* powerful when you've confused voters enough


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The article mentioning this didn't even mention that he was an ex-presidential candidate


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's gotta hurt


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Midknight#9798
"Who the fuck are these people? Fuck it, I know who this guy is! CHECK!"


[25-Mar-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
That was BEFORE Gianforte takkled a reporter.


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea, Midknight, is to make Bullock's name be like, 4th or something


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
In confusion, voters just go by party


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So they pick Bullock (Democratic)


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they don't remember he's a Democrat


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just know he's a good governor.


[25-Mar-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The average voter wants a Republican named Bullock


[25-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Purple state stupidity, I know.


[25-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically people want what the Republican party advertises it sells


[25-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
but what the Democratic party actually sells


[25-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
And hate the opposite


[25-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Bullock somehow got on the Republican side without changing any of his stances, it'd be over.


[25-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Midknight#9798
If they did that in every single race nationwide, I'd be fine with voting Republican again


[25-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Montana voters want legal weed, abortion access, expanded voting rights, free healthcare, and Republican governance.


[25-Mar-20 09:01 PM] Midknight#9798
it's about the stances not the letter after the name 😄


[25-Mar-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guns and endangered species protections are the only issues where they prefer Republicans (because Republicans regularly sabotage Democrat attempts to do things on either, not because Republican stances are good)


[25-Mar-20 09:02 PM] Midknight#9798
guns are the only thing Democrats need to take a collective chill pill on and quit fussing about


[25-Mar-20 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
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[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/489503-why-donald-trump-cannot-use-the-coronavirus-to-cancel-the-election

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Why Donald Trump cannot use the coronavirus to cancel the election
Imagine it is seven months from now in late October. Despite the efforts of the administration, the coronavirus has not disappeared.
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[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the contrary, guns are a serious issue where their continued abundance results in many deaths


[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and enforcement on them tends to be racial, favoring whites massively.


[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if Trump will try


[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Imagine it is seven months from now in late October. Despite the efforts of the administration, the coronavirus has not disappeared. In fact, the autumn weather has increased the number of cases after a decline over the summer. The economy has not recovered from its plunge at the beginning of the pandemic in our country. The election is only weeks away, and Joe Biden has an insurmountable lead."


[25-Mar-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
He will for sure try.


[25-Mar-20 09:11 PM] Midknight#9798
guns or no guns, people who make the decision to attack others will do so using whatever the most effective weapon they can get their hands on happens to be. guns' presence does far more to prevent that violence by leveling the battlefield between the law abiding but physically weak and the physically powerful would-be thug. Stop creating disarmed shooting galleries for the deranged and you do far more to halt the problem.


[25-Mar-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem isnt thw weapons. it;s the speed


[25-Mar-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guns take out dozens of targets in mere seconds


[25-Mar-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a knife will take awhile


[25-Mar-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
secondly the good guy with a gun approach never manifests no matter how much it;s presented


[25-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Midknight#9798
without guns, bomb, truck, still do the same. And we've seen the result of knife attacks in gun free countries so I'm not in agreement


[25-Mar-20 09:13 PM] Midknight#9798
the good guy with a gun works all the time, it just never gets reported on


[25-Mar-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually the would be good guy ends up wounding innocent bystandards who flee int heir path


[25-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Midknight#9798
nobody wants to deal with police suspicion and legal crap after they chase a mugger away without even having to fire. especially since you may not get your gun back in useable condition after they store it in some dank basement evidence locker for six to eighteen months while you prove you were in the right


[25-Mar-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where was the good guy with a gun in those church and school shootings, point thme out for me


[25-Mar-20 09:15 PM] Midknight#9798
schools are gun free shooting galleries, you're off on a red herring. many churches didn't allow weapons either due to "this is the house of God, have some respect!" sentiments. That started changing, and we've seen multiple incidents of church shootings where shooters were killed or driven off


[25-Mar-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the oen guy whpo stopped a mosque shooting was unarmed and a bad ass, i'll give him that


[25-Mar-20 09:16 PM] Midknight#9798
you're focusing too much on the tool a violent individual is using to solve the real problem: that an individual has the inclination and opportunity to do such things in the first place. Humans are toolmakers; ban one, they'll just improvise something else


[25-Mar-20 09:17 PM] Midknight#9798
Solve the people problem and you could have folks walking around armed like GIs in a warzone with zero incidents


[25-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Midknight#9798
The tool is irrelevant, and it's being used as a wedge issue to drive folks away from the party


[25-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Midknight#9798
So other serious issues never get dealt with due to the gridlock


[25-Mar-20 09:18 PM] Midknight#9798
Insistence otherwise merely continues the problem


[25-Mar-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tool is very relevant, the tool very much makes or breaks the situation


[25-Mar-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a fucker with a knife can be tackled and knife wounds can be better ehaled


[25-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Midknight#9798
And you're going to ban every single possible tool, manufactured or improvised, that could be turned to such ends? Great, you've just caused the collapse of society


[25-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Midknight#9798
No, it's a distraction.


[25-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Macarou#9574
Or just use non lethal options


[25-Mar-20 09:19 PM] Midknight#9798
The rich fucks funding both parties LOVE that you're fixated on guns


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gun nut is going to gun down anyone who comes after them in rapid fire spinning like a lunatic because the bullets let him not have to aim


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Macarou#9574
Like police forces do


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Midknight#9798
Nonlethal is a fantasy. The difference in energy required to incapacitate a human is so overlapped with the energy required to kill one, that there is no such thing


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if the good guy with a gun happens to be black thye get shot up by police


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Midknight#9798
That's not a problem with the gun, that's a problem with the society training the police


[25-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Macarou#9574
Then I suppose British tasers are lethal?


[25-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Midknight#9798
Tasers can be completely ineffective, or they can kill. They are *less* lethal, but not nonlethal, and the risk of failure is high.


[25-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Midknight#9798
If you prevent the guy you want to tase from going down a path that would require it, you don't need a taser *or* a gun in the first place, and a gun that stays holstered harms noone


[25-Mar-20 09:22 PM] Midknight#9798
It is thus irrelevant


[25-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Midknight#9798
If you manage to invent a working sci-fi incapacitating weapon like a neural whip or a phaser, then we can talk about mandating nonlethal options and getting rid of guns


[25-Mar-20 09:24 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/dhs-briefing-nyc-morgues-near-capacity-148259

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NYC morgues near capacity, DHS briefing warns
Officials were told that morgues in the city are expected to reach capacity next week, per the briefing.
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[25-Mar-20 09:24 PM] Midknight#9798
But since they're currently fiction and fantasy, my right to life and to defend that life is more important than anothers' irrational fear of the tools that can defend it


[25-Mar-20 09:25 PM] Macarou#9574
From what criminals?


[25-Mar-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/fohkv6/trump_nopes_out_of_press_conference_when_dr/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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r/PublicFreakout - Trump Nopes out of press conference when Dr. Deb...
118,288 votes and 6,132 comments so far on Reddit
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[25-Mar-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wish i had a better clip of this


[25-Mar-20 09:27 PM] Midknight#9798
as much as I dislike Trump, can you really blame him? Tough to social distance and still remain in the camera frame 😛


[25-Mar-20 09:28 PM] Midknight#9798
of course, that just proves he knows it's not a hoax after all 😄


[25-Mar-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that also means he;s willingly trying to kill millions by forcing thme back to work


[25-Mar-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he knows its going to get millions killed and he;s unwilling to practice what he preaches


[25-Mar-20 09:35 PM] Midknight#9798
Donald Trump is a hypocrite: Absolutely nobody is shocked


[25-Mar-20 09:35 PM] Midknight#9798
Headline ^^


[25-Mar-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[25-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Midknight#9798
but it isn't covering his nose or keeping his hands bound and away from a phone keyboard


[25-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
if the "good guy with the gun" is blakk


[25-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
he gets shot to death by police


[25-Mar-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he's white, he usually doesn't.


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Midknight#9798
As I said last time someone said that, not a gun problem. That's a police and society that produces said police problem.


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It very much is a gun problem.


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Midknight#9798
Nope


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having more guns doesn't make you safer


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's why Republicans at their conventions disallow weapons


[25-Mar-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
even while advocating for them in schools


[25-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The people that actually run shit know what's up.


[25-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
More guns means that things are more volatile.


[25-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Police will assume anyone with a gun who doesn't *look* good is the bad guy, and shoot them, even if they're trying to help, and confuse matters.


[25-Mar-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Good guys" with guns will shoot people committing crimes...even minor ones, like petty theft


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
this creates more deaths than necessary.


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
Heaven forbid there should be armed security in schools where the law abiding aren't allowed to defend themselves.


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Armed security in schools actually can be a serious problem


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
do you know what *unarmed* cops in schools do?


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
No, good guys with guns who shoot people that aren't a danger don't exist, because they're not good guys


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
They actually go to jail


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They arrest blakk kids.


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
For throwing tantrums.


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff that never needed to involve the police suddenly does and minorities get shat on.


[25-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
again has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with the shithole of a society we've built


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of all this paranoid security is to go after minorities.


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
guns are part of society


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't sidestep the problem by saying "well it's society not guns"


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our society is a shithole BECAUSE we built it on stationing officers in places.


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They create the problem.


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more authority and violence potential you giv people, the more they will use it.


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Midknight#9798
How do guns have anything to do with unarmed security officers being racist byte? That's just completely ridiculous


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to unnecessary uses of force.


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Midknight#9798
Listen to yourself


[25-Mar-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Officers are bad to always hav around.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They look for trouble.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will find it.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving them guns means they will shoot it.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Midknight#9798
You're so damn terrified of inanimate objects that you're blaming peoples' irrational biases on them


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Midknight#9798
This is why we can't have nice things

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[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving people greater ability to act on biases is very bad.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are not nice things.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
can I point you to cultural stereotypes of armed black thugs that police officers seem to insistent on keeping prevalent


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Police in the school aren't nice things.


[25-Mar-20 10:00 PM] Midknight#9798
You've allowed yourself to be stampeded into a position lacking in rationality by political tribalism


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
SWAT teams in a normal arrest are not nice things.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't have guns without society


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving these people this power makes them do bad things.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
We do not need a SWAT team to arrest people for drug offenses.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will just flashbang babies in cribs.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/489537-twitter-temporarily-locks-federalist-account-over-post-about-deliberately

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Twitter temporarily locked the account of The Federalist over a post of an
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[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“It is time to think outside the box and seriously consider a somewhat unconventional approach to COVID-19: controlled voluntary infection"


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is an actual thing that has happened btw.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't the fucking measles or chicken pox.


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
GIVING PEOPLE MORE AUTHORITY AND MORE ARMS DOES NOT IMPROVE SECURITY


[25-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Midknight#9798
I am aware. Again, I don't blame the flash bang, I blame the idiot that threw it


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Idiots only throw what you giv them.


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is the hammer and nail thing.


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
If all you hav is a hammer


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
every problem looks like a nail.


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
If all you hav is a gun, every problem looks like a bullet will solve it.


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is why it is a problem to arm police.


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
In other countries like the UK


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
the guns are kept in the vehicle except special circumstances


[25-Mar-20 10:02 PM] Midknight#9798
Giving people the ability to protect themselves instead of calling in the army, along with the understanding that if they do something that IS a crime, they WILL face justice, does not make you less safe


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a lot less people get shot up by police because of it


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
and people interact a lot better with the police in general.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is racism.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do not call in the fukking army.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
They handle it as police officers


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
with the support of the damn community.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So many people become police officers because they want to kill brown people.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something you will not find in areas where people got shot up by police, or intimidated by officers with weapons.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving people weapons makes them want to use them.


[25-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giving people weapons CHANGES HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE


[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intimidating the community more is not a good thing in policing.


[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want less racist cops, take away their guns.


[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously.


[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/488562-will-americans-embrace-of-socialism-wane-without-sanders

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Will Americans' embrace of socialism wane without Sanders?
Polls show most people may not think of state control of the economy when they say they think well of socialism.
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[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No. Next question.


[25-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want blakk neighborhoods that aren't cowering in fear from the sight of police, take away the guns.


[25-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also take away the fukking "school resource officer"


[25-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Every SRO I had was some out of shape retired cop lmao


[25-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
All those do is teach kids from an early age to fear the police.


[25-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arresting children in the damn school is never the right solution.


[25-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Midknight#9798
What'd you do, mute me for five minutes? Suddenly I can type again


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Discord was having troubles a moment ago.


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of my posts was in limbo for about 10 seconds.


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's under heavy load right now.


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Midknight#9798
Hope so. I didn't think you were the type


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone indoors etc.


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Midknight#9798
True


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Midknight#9798
okay


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489534-trump-charges-media-wants-businesses-closed-to-defeat-him

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Trump charges media wants businesses closed to defeat him
President Trump on Wednesday accused the media of pushing to keep restrictions in place to limit the spread of the coronavirus — measures supported by most public health experts — in an effort to hamper the economy a
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[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you were muted, Discord would disable the text box AFAIK


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Get back to work, "real people" want to!


[25-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Midknight#9798
I continue to disagree.


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I disagree with your ad hominem assertion about being boxed into an irrational position by party ideology


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take a society with some bad people in it (*i.e.* all societies)


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
giv the people in charge more weapons


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
more bad people will want to be in charge, and thus more will be


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
and when in charge, they will be able to do worse things.


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they will be more prone, even the good ones, to doing those bad things.


[25-Mar-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the problem with giving guns to our police officers and to random "good guys"


[25-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse things happen.


[25-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Midknight#9798
take away guns from everyone and people who want to do bad things will still exist, and will no longer have to fear being stopped by someone with a gun.


[25-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will still be stopped, but non-lethally.


[25-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas in the society with guns


[25-Mar-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
they and an innocent bystander get shot to death


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
or


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Midknight#9798
I consider that far worse than a small scale situational "mutually assured destruction"


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
when they do those bad things, they shoot you to death


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
to prevent you shooting them.


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
you are ignoring empirical evidence and focusing on an abstract zero-sum game situation


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
In for instance a home robbery, the robber has no incentive to shoot you unless you've got your guns.


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
stop doing that please


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mutually Assured Destruction is really bad.


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's take that metaphor and run with it


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Midknight#9798
or they beat you to death to make you tell them where you hid your valuables, or beat your family to death in front of you, because now you're at the mercy of their numbers or superior physique


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's Fallout


[25-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
you are Town A


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is also Town B


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Midknight#9798
this happened regularly IRL before guns.


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
every now and then they secretly steal some of your fuel


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking 0 chance of healthcare reform in next century in US :sad:


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could get guns


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
but then they will get guns


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
you all shoot each other to death to stop the theft of fuel


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
more people are dead


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
or in other words, it's easier to make a mars base than it is to reform healthcare @Itsthinking


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
than would hav died from a lakk of fuel


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Has society improved?


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Midknight#9798
We've seen the world without guns, and history that hasn't been sanitized does not paint the utopian picture of kindness and civility that you're dreaming of


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Macarou#9574
Who said that's what they thought?


[25-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no sane robber goes around in a fistfight with your whole family


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers get in and then get out ASAP


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Macarou#9574
You're putting words in their mouth, Midknight


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that was really fun to do in GTA tho


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
They only confront if they need to to get away.


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And for this fuel metaphor, Town B isn't going to fukking come in with bare knukkles and kill everyone just because you caught them stealing fuel.


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But if they hav guns? They will shoot you all to death.


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Midknight#9798
No, they really don't. History is full of cases of armed bands of brigands looting and pillaging until someone with superior force put them down violently


[25-Mar-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the fundamental nature of crimes.


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Adding guns doesn't prevent crime.


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just means more people die when it's confronted.


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and faster.


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Midknight#9798
Some of them claimed to be legitimate government, others didn't bother to pretend


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most highway robbers will not employ lethal violence if doing so is risky to them.


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guns make it either less risky to them (they hav guns and you don't)


[25-Mar-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
or NECESSARY for them (both of you hav guns)


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Midknight#9798
Give a man a gun to defend hismself, and it requires far more force to subdue him without getting hurt, making it less likely a criminal will take that approach


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
OR, you hav guns and they don't, so you kill them


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's not problem solved


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
those criminals had families


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
you've worsened society by shooting them.


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less people die when weapons are harder to use.


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less people try to kill each other.


[25-Mar-20 10:14 PM] Midknight#9798
I'd rather come home to find my place burglarized while I was gone than be killed for my shit because it was more convenient. Guns aren't a panacea, but they are absolutely *not* the root of our problems


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to kill you for your shit because you don't hav guns.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're just going to run away.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the primary thing to understand.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Macarou#9574
Why do you assume they want to kill you anyway?


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers are not some kind of instinctive animals.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
and as I have pointed out again and again, the we live in a society argument doesn't invalidate any current empirical evidence about firearm usage


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Midknight#9798
If I shoot and kill someone who busted into my home with the intent to violate or rob me, I disagree that that is not an improvement to society


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
clown emoji


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Midknight#9798
if their families gave a damn, they'd have taught them better.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Macarou Honestly? I know why this is the trope.


[25-Mar-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racism.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea isn't like, actual sane robbers rob you.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
But unknowable animals.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
(with dark brown skin)


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the Republican party is really pushing


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Midknight#9798
Yeah tell me that with a straight face after someone smashes in your front window with a knife in their hand at 2 am


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guns are the solution to preventing the other races from stealing white people's stuff.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Midknight#9798
They totally intend to harm you if you're there


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
People with knives are trying to threaten you.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not kill you.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a big difference.


[25-Mar-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking 
> So many people become police officers because they want to kill brown people.
sometimes, I feel like there's an endless supply of white men willing to do that


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the robber has guns, if you hav no guns, they're comfortable with you threatened and will usually run off.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] jlun2#8758
like 1 dies 10 more replaces them


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers are not bloodthirsty animals.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are people who are trying to earn money.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do not generally want to kill those they rob.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They will do so usually out of necessity, or by mistake.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less weapons means less deaths.


[25-Mar-20 10:17 PM] Midknight#9798
In order for a threat to be effective, it has to be something one can rationally assume will be carried out if you do not comply with their demand. In that case, you may legitimately conclude that you are in mortal danger. NOT defending yourself when you are in mortal danger is the path of a fool


[25-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Knives btw are much easier to treat the wounds from.


[25-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is ABSOLUTELY fallacious to say guns and knives are the same.


[25-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
A gunshot wound generally means internal bleeding, and lots of it.


[25-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Knife wounds tend to be more on the surface.


[25-Mar-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
A bandage helps much more with knife wounds.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: future of American socialism


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Responding to threats as if they aren't threats is foolish.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
A threat is not the same thing as someone trying to kill you immediately.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are not going to go back to pre-coronavirus thinking


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Midknight#9798
And I'd rather shoot the guy than get close enough to risk being stabbed in return.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Threats offer a condition where you are not being killed.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Threats may also involve only serious wounding rather than killing.


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, you'd rather shoot


[25-Mar-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
but again


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
if that guy dies


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
some family is out a family member


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
your fukking stereo is not worth that family losing a member.


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The world does not revolve the fukk around you.


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Midknight#9798
No, compliance does not guarantee you won't be harmed once they have what they wanted. Especially if what they say they wanted wasn't *all* that they wanted. Some people just want to hurt you to feel powerful.


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hav the police find him and return your stereo and try to make him a better person and all is groovy.


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most robbers are not sadists.


[25-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are after money.


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They rob because your stuff is worth money.


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Midknight#9798
The fact that they've threatened you with lethal violence completely justifies a lethal response


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is fukking robbing you suddenly because they just feel like it.


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Justification and what works out best for society aren't the same thing.


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The question **isn't** whether you are in the right.


[25-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's what will be best for you AND THE ROBBER TOO


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Midknight#9798
Except I don't give a flying fuck about the robber. He forfeited society's protection when he chose to rape society


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unacceptable.


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society is composed of everyone, even the bad parts.


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot choose who is not part of it.


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Midknight#9798
If he can be convinced to run away, great. I'm more likely to get that result by pointing a gun than waving a butter knife


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I'm not convinced Boomers won't forget about it in a year


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] jlun2#8758
at all


[25-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you can pikk and choose, then of course your whole shitty argument makes sense


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
Source: I live with one


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
those SWAT officers who flashbanged a baby? Not part of society.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
SRO arresting kids? Not part of society!


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Life's easy when you can just exclude people from consideration.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Midknight#9798
If you can lock him up and reform him, I'm happy with that. But I do not believe it is right to expect people to lay down and die to make that happen... the victim is in fact morally superior to the victimizer.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not interested in your ideal tiny cut out of real society.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm interesting in what we actually hav to deal with.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that means robbers are part of society.


[25-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just like the bastard cops that are murderers.


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who is morally superior is completely irrelevant.


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even the lowliest person in society must still be considered.


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, even the blakk ones.


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Midknight#9798
And you're arguing in circles. Now you're back to blaming tools for the actions of people


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I did not say anything there about the tools.


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Macarou#9574
And you want to play hero


[25-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Midknight#9798
And conflating criminality with being "blakk"


[25-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Midknight#9798
No, that is an assertion that is not true


[25-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I said bastard murderer cops are part of society too.


[25-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
How is that blaming tools?


[25-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Midknight#9798
I absolutely do not want to play hero. I want to live a quiet life minding my own business and having fun. But I KNOW FOR A FUCKING FACT that I CANNOT expect authority to protect me from SHITTY individuals, because that has been my entire life, and I WILL NOT willingly surrender the means to guarantee my own and my loved ones' safety to the best of my ability.


[25-Mar-20 10:26 PM] jlun2#8758
can't we just agree it's impossible to change minds in politics


[25-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Midknight#9798
It's blaming tools because you want to ban the weapon rather than punish or better train the cop


[25-Mar-20 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
||automate police tbh||


[25-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Midknight#9798
Flashbangs don't hurt anyone by existing, only by being improperly used


[25-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Midknight#9798
Guns don't hurt anyone by existing, only by being used. And used properly, they don't hurt anyone who doesn't have it coming.


[25-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Macarou#9574
And you assume no one will think you had it coming


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@Macarou me at school rip :sad:


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Midknight#9798
I do, because I don't go around threatening people for their lunch money


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
the autism hate in my schools were real


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Macarou#9574
And?


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Midknight#9798
I concealed carry every day and have never shot anyone. My being armed hurts nobody, and will not unless they try to harm me.


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Flashbangs being easy to use make them be improperly used.


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
ie. "I deserved it for being weird"


[25-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the nature of tools.


[25-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can train people better, but at the end of the day they will still use things wrong.


[25-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
unless the location is known to hold battle-hardened drug runners or something, flashbangs should be off the table


[25-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Midknight#9798
You can bash a skull in with a hammer. Better ban hammers then.


[25-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
no, ban throwing hammers at houses known to contain babies


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
From police use? **YES**


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Midknight#9798
Crow, that's my entire point: there's a proper use for the thing. That's not the same as banning it altogether.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
You should absolutely object if the police come in to your home equipped with hammers.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
make improper use illegal


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hammers are extremely dangerous weapons police shouldn't be allowed to carry.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hammers are fine when given to craftspeople whose job is to hammer shit that's not human skulls.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Midknight#9798
it IS


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Police jobs involve hitting humans.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whatever you giv them, they will use on humans.


[25-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So DON'T GIV THEM HAMMERS


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
the police who flashbanged the babies didn't get punished for it


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Crow#5457
so obviously it's not illegal


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Midknight#9798
And that's a problem that should be fixed


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hate that phrase.


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I keep hearing it in these kinds of arguments.


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You say society isn't broken


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
that the tools are the problem


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
then you go "and that's a problem [with society] that should be fixed"


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
excuse me?


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Midknight#9798
Excuse ME? You're the one reversing my argument


[25-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
How is society both perfectly fine and with these massive flaws you admit to?


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Answer the fukking question.


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Midknight#9798
I'm saying the TOOL is not the problem, SOCIETY is


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Laws are not a tool.


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Midknight#9798
Quit being dishonest


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are society.


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
laws aren't tools


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If there is a problem with what the law is


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
society has a problem.


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also,


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
on a moral level


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I find it COWARDLY


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because what you are really saying here


[25-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
is that you're totally sympathetic about babies being flashbanged


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Midknight#9798
I'm done here. You're literally taking what I say and claiming that I've said the exact opposite.


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
and totally behind fixing this problem that causes it


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
but you refuse to akknowledge actual solutions to it.


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Midknight#9798
So speaking with you is a sheer waste of time


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You refuse to even akknowledge there is a problem.


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just in the moment go "yeah it's bad we should fix that" and move the fukk on.


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not okay.


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Midknight#9798
See? exact opposite


[25-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
no, your logical presentation needs work, I glanced back at the stuff you've said, there's a bunch of logical inconsistencies


[25-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be just moving on with a little agreement that babies shouldn't be flashbanged.


[25-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should be considering actual solutions LIKE REMOVING FLASHBANGS FROM POLICE ARSENALS


[25-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
We should also be saying upfront that if the law is problematic then society has a problem.


[25-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
the simplest solution to flashbanged babies is to limit flashbang usage


[25-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no Crow you're blaming the tool!!!1111!


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just curious where do people live that needs to carry guns 24/7


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Midknight#9798
And I agreed to that. There's a time and place for them. That doesn't mean no flashbangs altogether.


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Macarou#9574
@jlun2 Nowhere


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Crow#5457
maybe somalia or something


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it always "no flashbangs altogether"


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Midknight#9798
and yet everywhere, because bad shit can happen anywhere.


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
What I was SAYING was we don't need to call SWAT teams on drug offenses.


[25-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is NOT "no flashbangs altogether"


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Macarou#9574
And a piano can fall on my head at any moment


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is DO NOT BRING IN EXPERTS IN FLASHBANGS WITH FLASHBANGS TO A MINOR DRUG OFFENSE IN A RESIDENTIAL HOME


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Midknight#9798
Every house should have a fire extinguisher and a first aid kit. You pray you never need to use them, but you should still have them, because bad shit doesn't ask, "Hay guys, can I happen here?"


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Crow#5457
flashbangs are military-grade weapons btw, they can severely damage even fully grown adults if not used properly


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no REASON to bring flashbangs to drug offense calls.


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
There might be reasons for other crimes.


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I was not talking about other crimes.


[25-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I specifically said drug offenses.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie let me guess. police never bring them when is some white dude high on herion right


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh they do.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing is.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
This was a white house


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
with no actual drugs


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
someone reported a potential drug deal


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
SWAT team threw a flashbang thru a slot in the front door.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
They had 0 info on anything in the house.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Baby happened to be near the front door in a crib.


[25-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Got severe damage to its face.


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
That sounds like SWATing during live streams


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Midknight#9798
I mean, I would want a flash bang or three to go in ahead of me if I was raiding a house that reliable intel stated had several heavily armed gang members running a major drug operation. Doing it with 0 intel is stupid and you're right, they should have been punished for that poor judgement


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they weren't.


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They never are.


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Society doesn't allow you to punish police officers like 95% of the time.


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://features.propublica.org/weirton/police-shooting-lethal-force-cop-fired-west-virginia/

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A shocking story of police and lethal force. Just not the one you might expect.
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[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Midknight#9798
And that's a problem that needs fixed.


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
A cop refused to shoot a guy immediately


[25-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
he got fired for it.


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It took like a year for him to get compensation for this wrongful firing.


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the reasoning stated for his firing


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
was that he allowed a woman to be revived.


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Midknight#9798
And that's unconscionable. No disagreement on that.


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
When allowing her to for sure die (refusing paramedics) would've potentially given more evidence.


[25-Mar-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a societal problem.


[25-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole system rewards officers for shooting first and asking questions later.


[25-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And even intentionally turning away paramedics to potentially get more evidence.


[25-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Police are rewarded for catching criminals, not saving lives.


[25-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Midknight#9798
Which is what I've been saying. Your proposed solution isn't going to affect that, though. There's an issue with priorities and attitudes that requires training and education to correct.


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Midknight#9798
And legal penalties for those who don't get with the program


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think limiting what cops can bring based on what call they're responding to would go a long, long way towards preventing these abuses.


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is the very basis of UK policing.


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They practice "community policing"


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
where locals in the community work together with officers to resolve problems.


[25-Mar-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than the police pointing guns at people demanding compliance.


[25-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Legal penalties are needed too, of course.


[25-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you get a lot less problems to begin with when police consider themselves part of the community.


[25-Mar-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
how enforceable is this if cops never get in trouble


[25-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than some kind of all-powerful community enforcer.


[25-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
the easiest way to fix a problem is to get rid of whatever's causing the problem


[25-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
gun-happy police? take away their guns


[25-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
even if they have batons to beat people with, people are much more likely to survive that than being shot


[25-Mar-20 10:45 PM] jlun2#8758
the police in general or the trigger happy ones?


[25-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
and there's no way to justify beating someone to death with a baton


[25-Mar-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
police in general, there shouldn't be a need for police to use guns unless they're doing a major sting operation


[25-Mar-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
and people seem to be under the misconception that police in the UK or other european countries don't have access to guns when they need them


[25-Mar-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> and people seem to be under the misconception that police in the UK or other european countries don't have access to guns when they need them
I don't know a thing about them except white people there hate each other while white people in america are homogenous so I can see why they might be unaware


[25-Mar-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Honahue#0656
not sure if they're trying to say governments bad or small business are fragile


[25-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Honahue#0656
probably the former


[25-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 UK police keep guns in the trunk of their police vehicles.


[25-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if a situation does arise while out on patrol, they *can* get them.


[25-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some do outright carry them, but not for normal policing.


[25-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
UK policing was designed around the idea that police need practical stuff, weapons are a last resort.


[25-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bringing in armed officers in the 19th century led to lots of deaths, which are undesirable.


[25-Mar-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
the UK has a separate problem with overcriminalization which must be addressed


[25-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[25-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their police don't shoot you, but they write you up for stupid shit.


[25-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Macarou#9574
Oh? This is the first I've heard of this, though I'm not overly surprised


[25-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing the UK and US share is protestantism, of the variety that believes people are inherently good or bad from birth and the bad ones should be enslaved.


[25-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and implicitly that it's inherited)


[25-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Macarou#9574
I am just unsure what to say, that sounds like a terrible way to think of people.


[25-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Macarou#9574
Of course, I imagine it's extremely prone to abuse as well, heck, that's probably the point


[25-Mar-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Something that was just pointed out to me


[25-Mar-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_George_W._Bush

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George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, has elicited a variety of public perceptions regarding his policies, personality, and performance as a head of state.  In the U.S. and elsewhere, journalists, polling organizations, and others have documented the express...
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[25-Mar-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Bush's approval rating after 9/11 was 90%


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Coronavirus is a disaster on the scale of 1000 9/11s


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump's approval rating has barely budged


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to trump if we accept pandemic assistance from other countries, we lose independance


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Macarou well yes, it was used to justify things like forced prison labor, slavery in the US, the status quo of who was rich and who was not in general


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
This is a good sign he will lose


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, religion fundamentally is a tool to determine who is in charge


[25-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even in a place saying church and state are separate and that it's a democracy


[25-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
the religious authorities will say so and so is president because he's better than you (and JUST SO HAPPENS to be rich as fukk)


[25-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the masses will eat that up.


[25-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it's actually believed that people aren't inherently good or bad from birth, that they can change, and that people who end up in bad situations aren't entirely responsible for it, it unravels the whole belief in who should rule.


[25-Mar-20 11:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> good sign he will lose
then he wins 2020 and ppl go wtf


[25-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you unravel belief in who should rule, that leads to instability.


[25-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
People would actually demand that we change the presidency.


[25-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bush after 9/11 was explicitly saying don't be racist against arabs btw.


[25-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was doing things mostly right.


[25-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a lot dumber than Bush.


[25-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cheney of course soon after declared some wars to distract people and take advantage of the situation.


[25-Mar-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPQCJtnT6o

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Donald Trump vs God on Easter PPV
Donald Trump wants to bring the economy back by Easter as a way to one-up God. Best Trump impression in the world.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sbPQCJtnT6o/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Mar-20 11:29 PM] illumnious#7938
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[25-Mar-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
When I grow steadily more insane in the moment, and so just slowly pull more of my mask off on social media:

> No one can run Boeing worse than Boeing itself. So let's just seize Boeing. It'll be Air America 2 but without the sin of Air America 1.


[25-Mar-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1242835135604629505?s=19

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When this is over, I never want to hear the words "pro-life" used to describe anyone who argued that we should kill grandma to prevent the economy from suffering.
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[25-Mar-20 11:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I mentioned it already, but I'm always baffled by how anti life prolifers are + the fact this completely goes over their heads


[26-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't care much about the people who want to kill grandma, I'm more concerned about the people who openly want to die for the line


[26-Mar-20 12:03 AM] Midknight#9798
If they were really prolife, they'd support higher taxes for state-run orphanages and education systems for all those unwanted babies they insist folks just must positively be forced to bear as punishment for their immoral sex lives >_>


[26-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Midknight#9798
(hint: it's really about that last part)


[26-Mar-20 12:04 AM] Midknight#9798
Or they'd adopt a half dozen unwanted babies themselves. But they don't.


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>State-run orphanages


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
where do unadopted orphans go after 18 btw in america?


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Perfect, then we have a built in set of recruits for the armed forces


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
homeless shelter?


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Midknight#9798
the street, jlun2


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
homeless alley


[26-Mar-20 12:05 AM] Midknight#9798
It's literally "here's your things, gtfo we need your bed"


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
do people even adopt in america


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Midknight#9798
and from that example we now have parents kicking their own kids out at 18 with NO support or help, sometimes with nothing more than the clothes on their back


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes but it;s msotly babies and toddlers


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Midknight#9798
It's a disgusting practice and they should be ashamed.


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
then the parents have another kid right


[26-Mar-20 12:06 AM] Midknight#9798
yup


[26-Mar-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the older the child is in the system, the less likely they are to be adopted


[26-Mar-20 12:07 AM] Midknight#9798
sometimes the first kicked out will land on their feet and help their siblings stand up when they're kicked out on their ass, but not always


[26-Mar-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm lucky to have parents who let me live with thme currently, but that is rare due to the economic up brining of people in the previous century


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Midknight#9798
the "nuclear family" concept screwed the West up. Humans have lived in multigenerational groups for tens of thousands of years, working together


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the 20's to the 70's it was actually possible to be completely successful on their own with minimum wage and it was really easy to find jobs


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Midknight#9798
That too


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
My sister tried leaving on her own and came back within a year


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was really easy to pay off college, a car, doctor bills


[26-Mar-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that;s not possible any more


[26-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Midknight#9798
But they'll be the first to bitch that "you should just work harder" if you can't make ends meet on your minimum wage job nowadays


[26-Mar-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
Do americans do that? Admitting they messed up, or nah too prideful to come back if allowed?


[26-Mar-20 12:10 AM] Midknight#9798
Ignoring the economic changes of half a century


[26-Mar-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
(if not allowed nvm then)


[26-Mar-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a person by person basis


[26-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
most people I've worked with always brag about how they're the best at their job


[26-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
and if they mess up it's under extrenuating circumstances


[26-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Midknight#9798
Larger homes are more popular because more people are living with parents and grandparents now, simply because they have to to survive. Old folks are realizing they need help too, if they don't want to get stuck in a retirement institution or something


[26-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Midknight#9798
But it's still not reflected in a lot of media


[26-Mar-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
>  retirement institution
are those free or you have to pay?


[26-Mar-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
are grandparents all rich


[26-Mar-20 12:12 AM] Midknight#9798
Pay


[26-Mar-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
housing prices have also tripled int he last few decades because banks and realtors bought up and sat on hosues to raise their value


[26-Mar-20 12:13 AM] jlun2#8758
My grandparents are living with my mom because poor


[26-Mar-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m living with my parents because we're just "above" the poverty level


[26-Mar-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the poverty level needs to be raised


[26-Mar-20 12:15 AM] Midknight#9798
the ones that saved and invested for several decades can afford a nice place to retire. the one with kids who struck proverbial gold expect them to cover it. the ones with neither live with their kids/grandkids if they have any, or go homeless/depend on social security/welfare/etc if htey don't


[26-Mar-20 12:16 AM] Midknight#9798
the problem is with wages stagnant the problems only gonna grow worse every generation


[26-Mar-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want my own hosue but it would take me 30 years to actually pay off a home, which severely limits mobility, it also brings with it the possibility of wages gettign worse and interest on the hosue rising


[26-Mar-20 12:17 AM] Midknight#9798
well that's why you get a fixed rate mortgage


[26-Mar-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also dont have a credit score


[26-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Midknight#9798
I pay less for my 3 bedroom house than you can rent a 1 bedroom apartment for right now


[26-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Midknight#9798
12 years ago it was 2x the cost of rent


[26-Mar-20 12:18 AM] Midknight#9798
on a 1 bedroom apt


[26-Mar-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now i would be willing to live as a live in hosue keeper if offered and the person wasnt a total dickbag


[26-Mar-20 12:19 AM] Midknight#9798
That is another thing you see in old tv shows that nobody but the rich can afford these days 😄


[26-Mar-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ugh i;d rather not work for a rich guy, they're all dicks right now


[26-Mar-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
their kids going to be spoiled as hell


[26-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Midknight#9798
Nah they'll just have affluenza


[26-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Midknight#9798
Run over a couple poor people, get a talking to from a judge, then go home to do it again the next week


[26-Mar-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay :hopeless:


[26-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Midknight#9798
After all it's not their fault their parents were rich, they couldn't help it so it isn't their responsibility or something something something stupid something


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[26-Mar-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should bring back the guillotines


[26-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Midknight#9798
y tho? they're so inefficient.


[26-Mar-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
image


[26-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Midknight#9798
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[26-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Midknight#9798
😄


[26-Mar-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah we;d kill the rich by more efficient means, but imagine a guillotine just beckoning to them in the center of town


[26-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Midknight#9798
They'd probably say something along the lines of "Well, at least it's not a gallows. Hanging's for the peasantry. Beheading's the proper way to execute a true nobleman!"


[26-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Midknight#9798
Maybe not. But that's been an attitude before, once upon a time. 😄


[26-Mar-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
:beheaded:


[26-Mar-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"At least we arent dying the peasent's way" they'll say as we turn them around and bring them to the gallows instead of the guillotines


[26-Mar-20 12:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne we shoot thme in the head instead


[26-Mar-20 12:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Mar-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[26-Mar-20 12:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I regreted I haven't bought the American stocks two days ago...


[26-Mar-20 12:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or I would earn thousands


[26-Mar-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea how buying and selling stocks even works


[26-Mar-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like the runescape marketplace


[26-Mar-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and just as botted to smithereens if not more


[26-Mar-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I sold all my stonks today


[26-Mar-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
:V


[26-Mar-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
my "retirement investment" account lost 25% of its value, just stopping the bleed for now


[26-Mar-20 01:02 AM] Midknight#9798
I'd say "I hope you don't regret that" but that would imply hoping the market gets worse, which I don't, because my own depends on it coming back


[26-Mar-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no stakes in the market


[26-Mar-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it crashes and burns i will be there with a bucket of popcorn


[26-Mar-20 01:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've bought some Shanghai funds


[26-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the stimulus bump is a dead cat bounce


[26-Mar-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is on track for entering the worst depression it will ever have faced


[26-Mar-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
no $2T for rich assholes will fix that


[26-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Midknight#9798
my retirement is in a managed corporate account that I can't touch until I retire or roll it over into an IRA after I leave the company so I can't just sell out 😛


[26-Mar-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no 401k or social security deposits either


[26-Mar-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of income will do that to you


[26-Mar-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[26-Mar-20 01:07 AM] Midknight#9798
still doesn't mean a bad market is good for you dude. the more people that wipe out, the less revenue there is to fund the safety net and the more things grind to a halt the less there is to go around


[26-Mar-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know it's bad but the chances of that safety net lasting were almost nill before now, maybe now enough rich people will be thrown under a bus that we can put thme in place


[26-Mar-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when all of the rich people are chanting "kill your parents! kill your parents!"


[26-Mar-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism built this tower and then kept pulling jenga pieces and now it;s all coming down


[26-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Midknight#9798
Truth


[26-Mar-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all i can really do is watch the ensuing chaos and hope for the best


[26-Mar-20 01:11 AM] Midknight#9798
Problem is lots of poor people who didn't have any control over the problem die either way, so neither of those is a good route 😛


[26-Mar-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe grow some edible plantds


[26-Mar-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also live in rural north carolina, so my prospects were already fucked as i lacked mobility


[26-Mar-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
start farming potatos? @prism stryder(intexda)


[26-Mar-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm going to need a taller pot for potatoes but i can do ginger right now


[26-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
```No. Next question.```


[26-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
actually it might.


[26-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
AOC looks and sounds like a GOP caricature.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
also the problem here is, without Sanders, there's nobody around to redirect the issue _back_ from 'socialism' to 'tax the rich, healthcare is a right'.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what's so great about her tho.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
She looks and acts like that but still wins elections.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP wants those caricatures to be in the abstract.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
people don't think of state control when they think socialism. Yeah, that's thanks to him I imagine. They'll get bombarded anew with neo Red Scare propaganda to make them realise the errors of their ways.


[26-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a hot woman in your face in Congress.


[26-Mar-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
ben wants those feet pics


[26-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her being hot is critical btw


[26-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
it means more attention


[26-Mar-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOPer can't think of her as the caricature if she's hot.


[26-Mar-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
> There was a time when people didn’t believe that a small man could accommodate a large donkey’s erect penis inside his rectum
> 
> But then came Ben Shapiro who said “ hold my speedo “ and the rest is history

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[26-Mar-20 01:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
👣


[26-Mar-20 02:21 AM] Opponent#3498
```I think limiting what cops can bring based on what call they're responding to would go a long, long way towards preventing these abuses.```
also, no, of course not.


[26-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem in the discussed situation  re: flashbangs and cribs was, they were using faulty, unreliable intel on face value.


[26-Mar-20 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
also has nothing to do with guns in civilian usage, as it's a procedural police problem.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They weren't using unreliable or faulty intel.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were told a drug deal happened, not anything about the condition of the interior of the house.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
that's faulty and unreliable intel.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had **no** intel about what was inside.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
same deal.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
incomplete = faulty.


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the entire point is to not bring flashbangs when you don't know


[26-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were responding to a nonviolent crime


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
the entire problem is to assess the situation properly.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
with no knowledge of anything dangerous inside.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
better safe then sorry.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you ALLOW them to bring flashbangs?


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I can understand that. What I cannot understand is going in blind.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
that endangers the team, if nothing else.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police go in blind all the time.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Officer showing up for a domestic dispute has no idea about like, guns inside.


[26-Mar-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a procedural problem, then.


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Procedure was what I was talking about.


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not allowing them to go in with flashbangs when they don't expect danger.


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
domestic dispute doesn't require militarised response and doesn't by default carry a severe enough threat levels.


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither does a drug deal


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
what is your fukking point?


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
my point?


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
```the problem in the discussed situation  re: flashbangs and cribs was, they were using faulty, unreliable intel on face value.
also has nothing to do with guns in civilian usage, as it's a procedural police problem.```


[26-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen you use circular argument with Knight, I'm not falling for it today.


[26-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you taking issue with saying police shouldn't be allowed to bring flashbangs to respond to a drug call with no intel?


[26-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem isn't what they are or are not allowed to bring in a situation requiring maximum force. The problem is what situations can be classified as such.


[26-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't about armaments. This is about, gasp, procedures.


[26-Mar-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
but armaments enable procedure


[26-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[26-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
not sure how to respond to a self-defeating statement, sorry.


[26-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's semantics.


[26-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
not really, not by far.


[26-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE ENTIRE POINT is the PROCEDURE for WHAT TO BRING is wrong.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No intel and residential house, drug deal = NO FLASHBANGS.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
not what to bring. When.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Semantics.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
not even remotely.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The situation and the equipment were completely mismatched.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should not bring flashbangs to random calls about drug deals.


[26-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not, they should just level the building.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any officer that brings such should be fired immediately.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
reduces drug usage, too. Healthier nation.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
the officers didn't choose.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
the command did.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the maximum force responder's loadout. Go.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
wow that is the most cuckoo thing I've heard all week


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people in charge are officers too.


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Honahue#0656
brutal enforcement of drug laws won't reduce drug use


[26-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
semantics :D


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
see how fun it is? Very productive. Much wow.


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
the thing that has been proven to reduce drug use is decrimilization


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police dept. decided on a loadout that made no sense for the situation. This should be a crime.


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
Hona, that's obvious.


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should be in jail.


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
that's also not what is discussed today.


[26-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
dear Nebby here blamed flashbangs being available in stock for situation being assigned the wrong threat classification.


[26-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
and calls it 'semantics'


[26-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah cause a drug dealer's house doesn't warrent flashbangs


[26-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it shouldn't, yeah.


[26-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't make a threat classification.


[26-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what is the case you guys are talking about?


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing told them this was dangerous, they didn't think it was.


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just decided to bring flashbangs.


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That should be illegal.


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.aclu.org/gallery/swat-team-blew-hole-2-year-old-baby

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A SWAT Team Blew a Hole in a 2-Year-Old Baby
The Phonesavanh family was sleeping in the same room, one bed for the parents, one for the girls, and a crib for the baby boy. After a SWAT team broke down the door, they threw a flashbang grenade
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[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should all be in jail.


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
cops just want to pretend they are in Afganistan taking down Taliban memebers


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
judging from the headline it sounds like a freak accident


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
A freak accident where people THREW A FLASHBANG INTO A HOUSE BLIND


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
it's police larping as military invaders


[26-Mar-20 02:33 AM] Opponent#3498
the headline was made as clickbaity as possible.


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW A FLASHBANG INTO A RANDOM HOUSE WITHOUT WARNING?


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
THIS.


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they blew a hole in a baby :implying:


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
so, the police is allowed to use military gear at discretion. With no oversight. But flashbangs existing is to blame.


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
that's your literal argument Nebbie.


[26-Mar-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361

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Ex-Georgia Deputy Acquitted After Flash Bang Grenade Injures Toddler
A former Georgia deputy was acquitted Friday of lying to a judge in connection with a drug raid last year that left a toddler critically injured.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_50/1338536/140530-wxia-baby1-2238_b2d4967e5b95fe4b489b4da5c8c8050f-nbcnews-ux-600-700_6d750051b088fec7df47ca8709863def.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
My argument is that flashbangs should ONLY be brought in very particular cases.


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this was not such a case.


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And bringing them in other cases should get people put in jail.


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"flashbangs existing" is a fukking strawman.


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it's your literal argument.


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
guns existing = bad


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
flashbangs existing = bad


[26-Mar-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
take bad away, all is good.


[26-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Opponent#3498
you wander in circles around this idea.


[26-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's it.


[26-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe we shouldn't give police militarized equipment at all


[26-Mar-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[26-Mar-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can strawman someone else all day.


[26-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking that was one of my arguments a while earlier, that giving people tools like this leads to using them.


[26-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note tho this is a SWAT team.


[26-Mar-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They absolutely need stuff like flashbangs for cases where they are, you know, needed.


[26-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was no reason to bring SWAT and no reason for them to bring a loadout like that.


[26-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
SWAT is supposed to be dealing with like, hostage situations and terrorism.


[26-Mar-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not alleged drug deals.


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Honahue#0656
but drug deals are like the ones from Robocop


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Honahue#0656
huge industrial operation with military equipment


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
tbh I think Robocop was excessive in his debut movie.


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I think that was the entire point of the movie.


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Honahue#0656
it was


[26-Mar-20 02:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they had no way of knowing what was inside the house. when raiding homes they never know if the person is armed and dangerous. in the past there has been police that arrived to places and either got killed or seriously injured. So these days with things like SWAT they try to be prepered for any kind of situation that arrives.

that said in this case the deputy clearly was bad at their job in gathering intel and should removed from the force.

as for the swat team, they were only going for what was considered to be protocol in these types of raids. the fact it landed in a crib seems like a freak accident. 

I only hope the baby recovers

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[26-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under no circumstances should "no intel" mean "throw in a flashbang"


[26-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Honahue#0656
I deliver pizza, my job is more dangerous than a cops


[26-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flashbangs are to disorient dangerous people like hostage-takers.


[26-Mar-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can hit fukking anything when you go in with no intel.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A SWAT team called and told of a drug deal should be approaching with caution and keeping weapons ready but not actually using them unless they spot something dangerous.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that was the judgment call the team leader had.
flashbangs are used to disorient people so they can't run away or fight back.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the team leader should be jailed.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is incredibly negligent.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, under UK and US legal standards


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are responsible for negligent force in the same way as malicious force.


[26-Mar-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that really should be applied to police who are negligent too.


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It only isn't because they're usually outright shielded.


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the eggshell skull theory


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you throw a punch


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
a cop once said a officer in a field only has 30 seconds to make a choice that a lawyer has 30 months to think over


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are responsible for breaking someone's skull if such happens


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
that you did not expect to hurt anyone as badly as you did *is not considered*


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who sees a residential home and goes "better flashbang it" shouldn't be a cop.


[26-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should be barred from ever being one.


[26-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's more like you didn't expect to give them a brain hemorrhage because they had an underlying condition, but you're still liable for the damages of a hemorrhage.


[26-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm no fan of the militarization of the police either and I think this was a bit excessive too. but swat are trained for high risk operations and so it's not too surprising they started a raid with a flashbang


[26-Mar-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure it still applies here, Its.


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flashbangs are known to cause harm.


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
the problem is that the job of cop and the structure of precinct self selects for authoritarian assholes


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Throwing one and happening to hit a small baby in the face should be treated quite seriously.


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think its being treated seriously


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were acquitted


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody went to jail for this.


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody was punished.


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The person acquitted wasn't even the SWAT team leader


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Honahue#0656
then the cops should have done a shit ton better diligence before calling in the murder squad


[26-Mar-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it was a cop who lied about there being a drug deal.


[26-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are AT LEAST three people who made horrifically stupid decisions


[26-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cop who lied about the drug deal, the cop who ordered the SWAT team, and the SWAT team leader.


[26-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just because they were acquited doesn't mean they are free from a civil suit


[26-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
but again cops self select for authoritarian assholes and cover up for each other, only in movies is there an Internal Affairs division that likes firing cops


[26-Mar-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first one tried to get people arrested for a crime that didn't exist, nothing to do with negligence of the flashbang.


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second one is indirectly responsible by calling in SWAT on an alleged drug deal.


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wasn't even arrested.


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The third one is directly responsible by deciding to throw in a flashbang with no information on what was on the other side of the door.


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also not even arrested.


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
abolish swat tbh


[26-Mar-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
SWAT should be extremely restricted.


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
swat was formed for a reason


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They shouldn't be taking all their gear in without having a good idea of a real threat.


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
swat was formed to allow police to utilize surplus military gear in domestic raids


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also shouldn't be called in to begin with without a threat.


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
the goal was targeting black people, of course


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie they wear all that stuff because they don't know what the threat level is


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
the reaso was a self created problem


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you DON'T KNOW the threat level, you shouldn't bring all your gear.


[26-Mar-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's stupid.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bringing more gear than you need actually makes situations escalate more.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it more likely people die.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Honahue#0656
swat could be avoided all together with different laws especially about drugs


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you want them to get into a situation where they can't resolve it with mininal risk because they left their gear back at the base?


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a real cost in human lives to bringing extra weapons and tools into a situation.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You act as if the only risk that matters is to them.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all they had to fucking do was send a normal ass cop to the residence, have them questiont he family, and then file the paperwork...


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being a cop means protecting everyone.


[26-Mar-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the people you are called in on.


[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least, that's what it means to be a SOLDIER.

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[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
wehn you kit up in full armor and guns what kind of mentality do you think you're bringing to the situation?


[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that article I linked earlier, about the former marine?


[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one who refused to shoot a guy?


[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did that because of his marine training.


[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was taught his goal was to protect all lives.

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[26-Mar-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just his.


[26-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if that means taking an extra risk on himself in return for making sure even those he faces hav a better shot, then so be it.


[26-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
This idea that SWAT might be threatened and so we should overequip them so they absolutely kill anyone they face is horrid.


[26-Mar-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is exactly the opposite of how a state using force domestically should work.


[26-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656

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[26-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
this is UK cops but I don't think the mentality varies that much country to country among cops


[26-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep...


[26-Mar-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mediaite.com/radio/washington-radio-station-refuses-to-air-wh-briefings-live-due-to-false-or-misleading-coronavirus-information/

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[26-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice.


[26-Mar-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
let's all follow suit


[26-Mar-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is senior citizens what we're calling the sun now?


[26-Mar-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
trump is asenior citizen sooo


[26-Mar-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[26-Mar-20 03:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i'm not going to spend my evening arguing with you about it.
but bad intel doesn't equal no intel.
they thought they were getting into a potentially violent situation and thus were equipped in a way that could swiftly end the raid with minimal casualties. no one wants dead cops or dead suspects.
flashbangs are designed to be a nonlethal way to end situations.
i'm glad they didn't use a frag instead. which they are also armed with.
either way. bad intel lead to a bad raid, with judgment call based on the intel and training they have and a freak accident lead to a injured baby.
let's all hope the infant turns out okay and perhaps the family can win a civil suit.
lastly the insinuation that they were targeting african americans is absurd as in gergoia a significant number of police and goverment officials are African American. 
has the names or identities of the officer with the bad intel or the swat members even been disclosed
what about the family?

anyway good night nebbie. hope you unmute opponent when you cooled down.


[26-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is "house with drug deal" potentially violent?


[26-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell does that work in your mind?


[26-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is every drug user, like, on supercrakk where they can kill people instantly?


[26-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
what a non response, it's bad that a baby almost got killed but cops need to be armed to the teeth cause you never know what they might encounter


[26-Mar-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's not how the real world works.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people on drugs are more of a threat to themselves than others.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they're a threat at all.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need a flashbang to deal with a guy on meth.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll probably knokk himself out.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's if you even know he's in the damn room.


[26-Mar-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well clearly that baby was on hypermeth and an xk class end of the world scenario


[26-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you not determine who's in the room before flashbanging?


[26-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flashbanging every room ruins any surprise factor.


[26-Mar-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the wrong move even in a hostage scenario.


[26-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Honahue Oh no baby got flashbanged how sad 😿 I'm sure the police will know better now 😺


[26-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the standard "move along citizen" response.


[26-Mar-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's been acquitted sure, but i;m sure he learned his lesson


[26-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say bad thing is just something nobody could've really stopped, blame some specific person but in a way where it's clear you don't think he should go to jail.


[26-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Honahue#0656
that lesson being I can flashbang a baby and get away with it


[26-Mar-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It shows a complete lakk of moral fiber.


[26-Mar-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess we shoudl just lob a flash bang into every room if we dont know what;s in it


[26-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moral fiber involves actually holding people accountable for those "bad judgment calls", and removing the conditions that allowed them to begin with.


[26-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that's the essential idea.


[26-Mar-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That to be "better safe than sorry" police should just throw explosives in any room before entering.


[26-Mar-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe if we're lucky we'll kill more hypermeth babies


[26-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuke America from orbit.


[26-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just to be sure.


[26-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Honahue#0656
kill everyon who runs a red light they probably going to a drug deal


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
In parts of California, right turns are illegal after sunset.


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just for safe measure, blow up the cars that run green lights too


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav an excuse to pull people over


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you can stop prostitution.


[26-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
I have a bad habit cause I drive a manual and roll through turns if no one's coming


[26-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
By making it illegal to like, enter certain roads at all at night.


[26-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ridiculous.


[26-Mar-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-coronavirus-rescue-package-bernie-sanders-steroids-trump-2020-3

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[26-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let them oppose it.


[26-Mar-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
stonks down overnight


[26-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the bill fails, then America knows what shitfukks thought helping us people was wrong.


[26-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hoping Rand Paul spread shit to these other fukkers.


[26-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, you can't vote against a bill if you aren't there.


[26-Mar-20 03:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> If the bill fails, then America knows what shitfukks thought helping us people was wrong
the boomers would vote for them regardless


[26-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also funny how Bernie opposed the bill when he saw what Republicans put, considering the Democrat parts not enuff to compensate


[26-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and yet they're saying it's him on steroids.


[26-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lovely contradictions.


[26-Mar-20 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489534-trump-charges-media-wants-businesses-closed-to-defeat-him

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[26-Mar-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489482-biden-i-think-weve-had-enough-debates

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[26-Mar-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
biden confirmed zombie


[26-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, guy could literally be a sign saying "what the expert that the party agreed on said"


[26-Mar-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
boomers are immortal


[26-Mar-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-20 04:33 AM] Honahue#0656
this is an example of how what something isn't is as important to what someing is to it's identity


[26-Mar-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

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[26-Mar-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/california-sees-one-million-unemployment-claims-in-less-than-two-weeks.html

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[26-Mar-20 04:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Can that picture be edited into Emperor Palpatine


[26-Mar-20 04:59 AM] illumnious#7938
they just doing that https://wsvn.com/news/local/city-of-miami-announces-curfew-for-residents-starting-friday/

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[26-Mar-20 05:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Imagine just now enforcing curfew when COVID has been a threat for three— four months now


[26-Mar-20 05:05 AM] illumnious#7938
speaking about curfew, The Bahamas will be done on the 31st of March


[26-Mar-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/25/821720614/in-surprise-move-christchurch-shooting-suspect-pleads-guilty-to-51-counts-of-mur

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[26-Mar-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
New Zealand removed the media circus with the lokkdown.


[26-Mar-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, he had no incentive to fight shit.


[26-Mar-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is just all about being a martyr for white supremacy.


[26-Mar-20 05:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he's made that intention clear from the get go


[26-Mar-20 05:42 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.npr.org/2020/03/25/821720614/in-surprise-move-christchurch-shooting-suspect-pleads-guilty-to-51-counts-of-mur
@Crow damm

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The man's abrupt change in plea comes one year after the massacres at two mosques. It means the scheduled June trial will be called off. The gunman has a sentencing hearing in May.
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[26-Mar-20 05:50 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243037202793316354

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96-0 in the United States Senate. Congratulations AMERICA!
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[26-Mar-20 05:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/23/trump-is-mad-about-size-his-crowd-twitter/


[26-Mar-20 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
old article?


[26-Mar-20 06:00 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trash


[26-Mar-20 06:00 AM] illumnious#7938
talking fuck number whatever


[26-Mar-20 10:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Mar-20 10:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I made a program to expect the future infections in the US with Logistic model


[26-Mar-20 10:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It won't be very excact, but it shows that the increment of infected will probably reach the top in several days.


[26-Mar-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-remove-video-saying-coronavirus-hoax-2020-3

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[26-Mar-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck, that will only make it spread wider


[26-Mar-20 10:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-lyft-drivers-gig-workers-get-unemployment-in-senate-bill-2020-3

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[26-Mar-20 01:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang maxing at 160k doesn't look so bad compared to "millions will have it"


[26-Mar-20 01:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[26-Mar-20 01:28 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-remove-video-saying-coronavirus-hoax-2020-3
@prism stryder(intexda)  holy shit, Rump got one fucking job

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[26-Mar-20 01:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Misleading my ass


[26-Mar-20 01:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Dumbass motherfucker


[26-Mar-20 01:32 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk boomers go 
AMERICA IS RUINED COMMIES COMIN FOR US


[26-Mar-20 01:36 PM] illumnious#7938
While Trump talking shit, this came out of nowhere https://twitter.com/cheddar/status/1243154343345430530?s=21

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BREAKING: US weekly jobless claims soar to a record-breaking 3.2 million.

Tune in to #WakeUpWithCheddar for the latest news: https://t.co/WRctDpjE3N https://t.co/2GLm9GMhWx
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[26-Mar-20 01:41 PM] illumnious#7938
More than 3 million Americans filed for unemployment claims last week https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/unemployment-claims-hit-3-million-last-week-n1169266

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Unemployment claims hit 3 million last week
"It's beyond anything we have ever seen. It’s the speed that is so painful," said one economist.
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[26-Mar-20 01:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/

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The shortage of safety gear at one Manhattan hospital is so dire that desperate nurses have resorted to wearing trash bags — and some blame the situation for the coronavirus death of a beloved coll…
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[26-Mar-20 01:54 PM] illumnious#7938
They tried, and they failed, also they died


[26-Mar-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/egypt-forces-guardian-journalist-leave-coronavirus-story-ruth-michaelson

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Egypt forces Guardian journalist to leave after coronavirus story
Ruth Michaelson had reported on study that questioned country’s official tally of cases
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[26-Mar-20 03:05 PM] nova bellfire#2446
trump is as if flim and flam became president bernie really is are best offer isn't he


[26-Mar-20 03:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[26-Mar-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bill-lets-post-office-make-amazon-like-delivery-points-2020-3

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[26-Mar-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://t.co/9cHPJKywwp

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Venezuelan Leader Maduro Is Charged in the U.S. With Drug Trafficking
Federal prosecutors accused President Nicolás Maduro of participating in a “narco-terrorism conspiracy” in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s efforts to pressure him to leave office.
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[26-Mar-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[26-Mar-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
can european leaders charge trump with human rights violations then


[26-Mar-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Charge Bush with them too


[26-Mar-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And every POTUS since Kennedy


[26-Mar-20 05:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think you can charge dead presidents. But guess what! We have some former and living presidents sitting around you could charge


[26-Mar-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
WTF


[26-Mar-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Also Joe not wrong https://twitter.com/chrislongview/status/1242969490721210368?s=21

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[26-Mar-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dems just have to focus on Trump and only passingly mention that their candidate is Biden


[26-Mar-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Still, they'll manage to fuck it up


[26-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're waiting for Biden to fuck up more so Cuomo can swoop in


[26-Mar-20 06:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkUXT0pMYE

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[26-Mar-20 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck Trump https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-M004Oppc3/?igshid=1ryjvnc1g70er

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[26-Mar-20 06:15 PM] illumnious#7938
If you treat Trump with respect, he’ll treat you the same


[26-Mar-20 06:15 PM] illumnious#7938
What kind of fuckery is that


[26-Mar-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[26-Mar-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically trump is holding ventilators back because new york is still investigating him...


[26-Mar-20 06:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's more than that. I literally don't think Trump thinks they *need* that many. And he doesn't think that *because* cuomo isn't brown-nosing him


[26-Mar-20 06:34 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
The outbreak has really shown Trump's true colors to how much of a piece of shit he is. Now I'm actively hoping he croaks soon


[26-Mar-20 06:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
After all, in trumpworld, if you're not grovelling, do you really need his benevolence?


[26-Mar-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm hoping he dies of spontanious combustion


[26-Mar-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
preferably the gas fueled kind


[26-Mar-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trudeau-says-trump-wants-to-put-troops-near-canadian-border-2020-3

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Justin Trudeau says the Trump administration wants to station troop...
The US-Canada border is the largest undefended border in the world. The Canadian prime minster said his government has resisted the idea.
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[26-Mar-20 06:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/26/weekly-jobless-claims.html

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Jobless claims soar past 3 million to record high
The number shatters the Great Recession peak of 665,000 in March 2009 and the all-time mark of 695,000 in October 1982.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/103627886-RTX2DJE4.jpg?v=1585173278


[26-Mar-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I'm sure trump is gonna do literally everything he can to make sure that democrats take the blame for that


[26-Mar-20 07:00 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I think they'll be more likely to spin it as a bunch of people wanting the "socialist" benefits


[26-Mar-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
and saying this is why we shouldn't expand unemployment benefits at all and not extend the benefits being offered due to the coronavirus


[26-Mar-20 07:09 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Mar-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Broken clock


[26-Mar-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent


[26-Mar-20 07:25 PM] Opponent#3498
yeey


[26-Mar-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[26-Mar-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder some landlords are absolute scum who will take advantage of anything. Like, the sort you'd want to reverse over after hitting.


[26-Mar-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just to be sure.


[26-Mar-20 07:54 PM] Honahue#0656
eat your landlord, cook them first tho


[26-Mar-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Landlords should be strung up by their entrails


[26-Mar-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
In these trying times we may hav to accept such horridly-sourced meat. It's like eating pure evil.


[26-Mar-20 07:56 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Welp just got the news, my office has just fired 3 employers


[26-Mar-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Employees? And cause of them not showing up?


[26-Mar-20 07:59 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
No, just because how the economy is so plastered now because of this Corona deal


[26-Mar-20 07:59 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Business decreased


[26-Mar-20 07:59 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
People lose their jobs, just damn at my own office... this is really spreading out


[26-Mar-20 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489698-trump-outlines-plan-to-classify-counties-by-risk-level-for

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Trump outlines plan to classify counties by risk level for coronavirus
President Trump on Thursday outlined plans for his administration to classify each county across the United States based on its risk for an outbreak of coronavirus and use that information to create targeted guidelines.
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[26-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good idea a month ago.


[26-Mar-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Way too late now.


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This virus is everywhere now.


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's in the most rural of places.


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s spread out over my state


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't really a point in going county by county.


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's in all of them in force.


[26-Mar-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
We just can't see it in many cause testing is in short supply and still something you fukking pay for.


[26-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the most worthless thing he could do at this point.


[26-Mar-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
> rural
is there an infinite amount of ppl in rural areas how are they still there


[26-Mar-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They move out really, really slowly.


[26-Mar-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Mar-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/13/rhode-island-priest-said-abortion-worse-than-pedophilia/4747755002/ someone should have a look through this man's computer

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Amid calls from lawmakers to suspend Rev. Richard Bucci, he holds firm in his belief that "killing an innocent child is the worst possible sin."
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[26-Mar-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
Let me guess. he also claims denying kids healthcare is also fine right


[26-Mar-20 08:44 PM] Honahue#0656
this isn't even new to the church, maturbation used to be concidered a worse sin than rape cause at least rape can make a baby


[26-Mar-20 08:47 PM] Honahue#0656
in Genesis when god told a guy to have a kid and instead he just nutted on the ground god killed him


[26-Mar-20 08:49 PM] jlun2#8758
> used to be
given how annoyingly slow change is in religion probably still is in certain circles


[26-Mar-20 08:55 PM] Honahue#0656
of course it's the Catholic church, Benedict stepped down from the papacy for "health reasons" and Francis took over and sure he seems a lot cooler but he's really the same stuff he just doesn't look like Palpatine


[26-Mar-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@jlun2  rural areas dont offer a lot of jobs or mobility, and it;s really hard to leave a place with no mobility or income


[26-Mar-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people move out to rural areas because it;s all they can afford to do in their impoverished state


[26-Mar-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
ty


[26-Mar-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
what do they do after they move to rural areas?


[26-Mar-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
try and find jobs, pay off a house, possibly start a farm or retire


[26-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Honahue#0656
mostly older people


[26-Mar-20 09:00 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah living off retirement


[26-Mar-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why i keep bitching about public transport for north carolina because that little change would be enough to change everything


[26-Mar-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would give people mobility to and from towns and inner town locations


[26-Mar-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
is there public support for that at all, or is it mostly "public goods is commie get a car!"


[26-Mar-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure


[26-Mar-20 09:03 PM] Honahue#0656
I was in South Carolina for sprink break visiting family and everything there was way to spread out for effective public transport


[26-Mar-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
intercity buses would mean more jobs availability as well as better housing opportunities


[26-Mar-20 09:03 PM] Honahue#0656
like a big city maybe but small towns no way


[26-Mar-20 09:04 PM] Honahue#0656
at best you get the church bus for picking up the older paritioners


[26-Mar-20 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://cnn.it/3buyxzK

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Obama urges Americans to continue social distancing despite Trump's...
Former President Barack Obama on Wednesday urged Americans to continue social distancing in an effort to stem the spread of coronavirus, a noticeable difference in tone from his successor, who has publicly suggested opening up the nation in two weeks to boost the economy.
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[26-Mar-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, now trump is going to try extra hard to end it early


[26-Mar-20 09:05 PM] illumnious#7938
I fucking hate society


[26-Mar-20 09:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Mr. Obama, get down


[26-Mar-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
oh man can you imagine if trump actually said the n word on live tv

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[26-Mar-20 09:07 PM] jlun2#8758
how's the logistic curve atm


[26-Mar-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
tons of cheers from his audience probably


[26-Mar-20 09:09 PM] Honahue#0656
"we're taking it back folks, for years we haven't been allowed to put those uppity ni🅱️🅱️rs in there place but we're making america great again and you can say n🅱️🅱️gs all you want again"


[26-Mar-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
ladies and gentlemen, the ceo of racism


[26-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Honahue#0656
and yes it would be followed by wild applause


[26-Mar-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
then he starts screeching out on twitter after it gets censored


[26-Mar-20 09:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1242962016559493120?s=12

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[26-Mar-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
maybe I'm going faceblind but why do fox female news anchors all look the same


[26-Mar-20 09:14 PM] Honahue#0656
Fox News clones them


[26-Mar-20 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the Fox News Blondelady 5000 (tm)


[26-Mar-20 09:17 PM] illumnious#7938
there's no time for that https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1243270768445841409

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[26-Mar-20 09:19 PM] illumnious#7938
> oh man can you imagine if trump actually said the n word on live tv
@byte[] that'll be in the fucking history books


[26-Mar-20 09:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://prnt.sc/rnetkz

So apparently one of the reason that the bill passed the senate after the dems blocked it for days was that 25 million was given to the House (not the senate) for "salary and expenses", with just 5 million of that related to the coronavirus? Hmm

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[26-Mar-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
wow gottem liberals owned


[26-Mar-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/you-can-gamble-on-what-trump-says-at-coronavirus-briefings-2020-3

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You can now gamble on what Trump says at White House coronavirus br...
A sports betting website has set the over/under for several Trump-isms, such as "fantastic," "tremendous," and "big/bigger/biggest."
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[26-Mar-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
New odds

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[26-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Completely stupid.


[26-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It _is_ by John Stossel, so I mainly go to it for entertainment value.


[26-Mar-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://ncov2019.live/data

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[26-Mar-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
USA USA


[26-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[26-Mar-20 11:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Those are some inspirational quotes

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[26-Mar-20 11:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/u-s-now-has-the-worlds-largest-coronavirus-outbreak.html

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U.S. Now Has the World’s Largest Coronavirus Outbreak
Unfortunately, we’re No. 1. On Thursday, the number of U.S. coronavirus cases — at least 82,177 — surpassed China’s 81,285.
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[26-Mar-20 11:47 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[26-Mar-20 11:47 PM] illumnious#7938
And most of the outbreak is between California and New York


[26-Mar-20 11:48 PM] Honahue#0656
probably a bias there though, richer states with higher populations and big cities


[26-Mar-20 11:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Welp


[27-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
most of the outbreak is where most of the testing is.


[27-Mar-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
most of the *known* outbreak is where the testing is


[27-Mar-20 12:31 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's what I meant.


[27-Mar-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for all we know, Sioux Falls could be a wasteland of rotting corpses but since no one cares about south dakota we just haven't heard anything from them


[27-Mar-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm sure someone online would probably conclude the superiority of rural areas, as oppose to lack of testing.


[27-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen people at least discussing Russia's results as being potentially legitimate, so yeah


[27-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
USA numbah one


[27-Mar-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
at dyin'


[27-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Courtesy of the Donald.


[27-Mar-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Donald "Who needs a pandemic response team?" Drumpf.


[27-Mar-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who needs a response team, when we can be the best at dying :twiface:


[27-Mar-20 01:51 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[27-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alternative take: Number big...life bad????


[27-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52053656

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Wearing face masks, protesters blocked the US southern border, telling Americans to 'stay home'
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[27-Mar-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trumps wall is meant to keep Americans in.

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[27-Mar-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Mexico is now happy to pay for the wall.


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump succeded in geting Mexico to pay for the wall damn


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump just wanted to make Korea2 this whole time


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump pays for the wall


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump builds the wall


[27-Mar-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico uses the wall


[27-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He conned himself.

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[27-Mar-20 02:02 AM] Honahue#0656
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[27-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1243265481601093637

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[27-Mar-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
oof


[27-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
god dabbed on him

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[27-Mar-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw

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‘People Are Dying’: Battling Coronavirus Inside a N.Y.C. Hospital |...
An emergency room doctor in Elmhurst, Queens, gives a rare look inside a hospital at the center of the coronavirus pandemic. “We don’t have the tools that we need.”

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[27-Mar-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So some important things to note


[27-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're finding COVID-19 in people who come in for completely unrelated reasons.


[27-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also New York officials are lying about preparedness.


[27-Mar-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is nowhere near peak.


[27-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, car accident, they do a CT scan, COVID-19. The virus is much more widespread than the official numbers say.


[27-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh oh https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/us/coronavirus-louisiana-new-orleans.html

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New Orleans Faces a Virus Nightmare, and Mardi Gras May Be Why
Louisiana may be experiencing the world’s fastest growth in new cases. Medical experts said Mardi Gras might have accelerated the crisis.
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[27-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
COVID-19 was all over Mardi Gras


[27-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is about to get fukked.


[27-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hard.


[27-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President Cuomo will solve it.


[27-Mar-20 03:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our official medias are televising Trump's interviews and speeches even more often than Xi's...


[27-Mar-20 03:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiHv37fNuek

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[27-Mar-20 03:50 AM] illumnious#7938
the whole shit starts at 40:11


[27-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump can't give rallies right now so he's doing the press confrences instead


[27-Mar-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang 
1. hows the logistic curve atm?
2. are they doing that because trump is free anti-america propaganda?


[27-Mar-20 03:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It gets the half point now


[27-Mar-20 03:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And yes... Trump is simply an automatic anti-america propaganda producing machine

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[27-Mar-20 03:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe it's cultural differences... many of Trump's quote sounds totally nonsense for Chinese people


[27-Mar-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-governors-coronavirus-we-have-to-open-up-our-country-2020-3

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Trump tells governors new rules may allow US regions to ease corona...
"We all have to get smart," Trump said on a phone call with governors on Thursday. "We have to open up our country, I'm sorry."
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[27-Mar-20 04:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Mar-20 04:01 AM] jlun2#8758
oh, it's falling behind the curve. ty


[27-Mar-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
stonks


[27-Mar-20 04:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the policies on stocks have worked


[27-Mar-20 04:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Significantly


[27-Mar-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
which one? the infinite quantitative easing?


[27-Mar-20 04:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But the Chinese fund I bought just fell down...


[27-Mar-20 04:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I lost 3.67 yuan


[27-Mar-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
buy low sell lower :depressed:


[27-Mar-20 04:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I bought 5000 yuan stocks yesterday


[27-Mar-20 04:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All medical treatment stocks, which are raising up quickly these days


[27-Mar-20 04:08 AM] illumnious#7938
nice


[27-Mar-20 04:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I just want to earn several yuan per day to buy some snacks


[27-Mar-20 04:13 AM] illumnious#7938
ah


[27-Mar-20 04:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/nypd-discovers-837-bars-remain-open-in-nyc-during-andrew-cuomos-coronavirus-shutdown-order-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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NYPD discovers 837 bars remain open in NYC during Andrew Cuomo’s co...
The New York Police Department conducted a survey of businesses on Friday to gauge compliance with the state’s stay-at-home order for nonessential businesses. NYPD officers visited 5,292 bars, finding 837 of the watering holes remaining open, with 4,455 complying with the orde...
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[27-Mar-20 04:16 AM] illumnious#7938
wat


[27-Mar-20 04:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[27-Mar-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
how


[27-Mar-20 04:21 AM] illumnious#7938
secret bar I guess


[27-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This shit is part of the reason places are going from takeout only to completely closed


[27-Mar-20 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or they were taking the gamestop approach


[27-Mar-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw local places that stopped it because when they did curbside pickup people still insisted the runners reach into their car/interact which defeats the point


[27-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
behold the return of speakeasies xD


[27-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
least the alcoholism isn't as rampant as it was before Prohibition


[27-Mar-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breathehards.


[27-Mar-20 05:02 AM] Honahue#0656
thats the trick though, you just got to get you bac up high enough to kill the virus


[27-Mar-20 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656
basically jchug everclear and orange juice, vodka is too weak for this


[27-Mar-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, death is a cure.


[27-Mar-20 05:30 AM] Honahue#0656
I am the cure

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[27-Mar-20 05:46 AM] illumnious#7938
caw


[27-Mar-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[27-Mar-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
murder


[27-Mar-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
:murder:


[27-Mar-20 06:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243407157321560071

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Just finished a very good conversation with President Xi of China. Discussed in great detail the CoronaVirus that is ravaging large parts of our Planet. China has been through much & has developed a strong understanding of the Virus. We are working closely together. Much resp...
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[27-Mar-20 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
di Xi promise trump a hotel in Beijing or something?


[27-Mar-20 06:33 AM] jlun2#8758
so is trade war over?


[27-Mar-20 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
there was never a trade war China was always our ally

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[27-Mar-20 07:06 AM] illumnious#7938
Kill me already https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243313399284498434?s=21

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Our great Oil & Gas industry is under under seige after having one of the best years in recorded history. It will get better than ever as soon as our Country starts up again. Vital that it does for our National Security!
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[27-Mar-20 07:15 AM] jlun2#8758
what, not coal?


[27-Mar-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths-about-why-the-south-seceded/2011/01/03/ABHr6jD_story.html


[27-Mar-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1243356519690719234

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New York City EMS received more than 6,400 medical 911 calls on Wednesday, surpassing the record set on September 11, 2001 - WaPo
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[27-Mar-20 08:11 AM] byte[]#2610
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Sounds like a Donaldian bestdeal
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[27-Mar-20 08:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Mar-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's missing something vital


[27-Mar-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
the $200 bill just for talking with the doctor

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[27-Mar-20 08:23 AM] byte[]#2610
me every time I have a health problem:
"hmm, should I go pay a ridiculous amount of money for them to give me no treatment, say I can deal with it, and tell me to fuck off?"


[27-Mar-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-claims-us-states-dont-need-amount-ventilators-theyre-asking-i-dont-believe-you-need-1494599

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[27-Mar-20 08:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is what I said around lunchtime


[27-Mar-20 08:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[27-Mar-20 09:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-rep-thomas-massie-plans-to-vote-no-threatens-to-hold-up-coronavirus-stimulus-bill/ar-BB11KpYX

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U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie plans to vote 'no,' threatens to hold up co...
U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie did vote for a coronavirus relief measure in early March, but missed the vote for a second measure on March 14.


[27-Mar-20 09:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where'd he get the $6k figure from


[27-Mar-20 12:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1243356330951204864?s=20

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the train has left the station. we're fucked https://t.co/bG7pN2DIck
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[27-Mar-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
trump sounds kinda sick


[27-Mar-20 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-mississippi-governor-executive-order-most-businesses-essential-2020-3

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[27-Mar-20 01:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
> I am the cure
@Honahue 

Hello, Louis?


[27-Mar-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-bible-teacher-says-gays-among-those-blame-covid-n1168981

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Environmentalists and people with “depraved minds” are also igniting "God's wrath," according to Rev. Ralph Drollinger.
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[27-Mar-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has a bible teacher...


[27-Mar-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who seems to be terrible at learning from the boble himself


[27-Mar-20 01:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait he has a bible teacher that's different from the faith leader


[27-Mar-20 01:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this really *is* a cult


[27-Mar-20 01:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess he's the cause of all this given his depraved mind


[27-Mar-20 01:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/27/coronavirus-british-prime-minister-boris-johnson-tests-positive/2924055001/

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Boris Johnson, 55, confirmed the coronavirus infection on his Twitter account. He's the first major world leader to test positive for virus.
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[27-Mar-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or at least the first one not to lie out his ass about it


[27-Mar-20 01:46 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
wtf has Xi said to Trump


[27-Mar-20 01:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[27-Mar-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/china-prepares-to-seal-itself-off-from-the-world-to-stem-imported-coronavirus-cases

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Phonecall between leaders came as China prepares to seal itself off from the world to stem ‘imported’ coronavirus cases
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[27-Mar-20 01:59 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Xi: "stop saying Chinese virus, or I'll ban all Trump memes!"


[27-Mar-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's what trump wants


[27-Mar-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better threat would be to flood the market with trump memes detailing all of trumps unflattering statements


[27-Mar-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump would love a banning of the memes


[27-Mar-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it weren't for the first amendment, he'd have likely passed a king of thailand style law that legally punishes people for speaking out against, insulting, or criticizing him


[27-Mar-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se_majest%C3%A9_in_Thailand

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[27-Mar-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> In Thailand, lèse majesté is criminalized by Section 112 of the Thai Criminal Code. It is illegal to defame, insult, or threaten the king, queen, heir-apparent, or regent. The lèse-majesté law has been on the statute books since 1908. The punishment is three to fifteen years of imprisonment per count and has been described as the "world's harshest lèse majesté law"[1] and "possibly the strictest criminal-defamation law anywhere".[2] The social scientist Michael Connors has written that enforcement of Thailand's lèse majesté law "has been in the interest of the palace."[3]:134


[27-Mar-20 02:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/new-zealand-scrubs-up-for-formalfridays-despite-coronavirus-lockdown

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New Zealand scrubs up for #formalfridays despite coronavirus lockdown
Kiwis are keeping their spirits – and sartorial standards – up by working from home while dressed in suits, business attire or full evening-wear
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[27-Mar-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been working in my pyjamas for two weeks


[27-Mar-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or, well, "day time" pyjamas, more like, sweatpants and a short sleaved hoodie thing


[27-Mar-20 02:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna be weird when we all start going back into the office...


[27-Mar-20 02:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://cnn.it/2QLQ1je

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Biden says Democrats have 'had enough debates' after Sanders commit...
Joe Biden said Wednesday that Democrats have "had enough" debates, suggesting he is unwilling to have another one-on-one showdown with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200316193107-bernie-joe-elbow-super-tease.jpg


[27-Mar-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you don't want to participate then quit the race


[27-Mar-20 02:37 PM] Opponent#3498
```wtf has Xi said to Trump```


[27-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
'We will provide any amount of settlers to compensate for your losses and boost your dwinding economy!'


[27-Mar-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
(_**for a small fee**_)


[27-Mar-20 03:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[27-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Crow#5457
it's nyoom time again


[27-Mar-20 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.imgur.com/bQR0Ag8.jpg

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[27-Mar-20 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh


[27-Mar-20 04:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is why feminism and defending capitalism cannot cohabitate the same thought space


[27-Mar-20 04:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
How did BoJo The Clown test positive for covid 19 if tests are only for people that are critical and suspected of having it?

Could it be that the rules are different for politians and the upper class?
:ponythinking:


[27-Mar-20 04:12 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 does she think writing about rape = rape?


[27-Mar-20 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently so


[27-Mar-20 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
White liberal feminists are as dumb as a fucking rock


[27-Mar-20 04:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/693114966022029312/oop.png

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[27-Mar-20 04:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mickey Mao-se

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[27-Mar-20 04:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243560795415470080?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243560795415470080?s=21
Invoke “P” means Defense Production Act!
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[27-Mar-20 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Invoke "p" means "penis in my ass"


[27-Mar-20 04:38 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[27-Mar-20 04:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/27/kremlin-confirms-first-coronavirus-infection-in-putins-administration-a69780

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Kremlin Confirms First Coronavirus Infection in Putin’s Administrat...
Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the official had no contact with President Vladimir Putin.
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[27-Mar-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-epa-stops-enforcing-environmental-protection-rules-2020-3

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The Environmental Protection Agency says it won't enforce its own r...
The EPA's suspension of its own regulations is "indefinite," said Cynthia Giles, former head of EPA's Office of Enforcement.
https://i.insider.com/5e7e13f992e19168c85b278c?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[27-Mar-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-jair-bolsonaro-suggests-brazilians-immune-to-disease-baseless-2020-3

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Brazilian President Bolsonaro suggested his people are naturally im...
Jair Bolsonaro has been criticized for downplaying the coronavirus crisis in his country. At least 77 Brazilians have died of COVID-19 so far.
https://i.insider.com/5e7dea3c2d41c146e049fcd5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Mar-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wealthy-real-estate-investors-get-tax-cut-in-coronavirus-stimulus-2020-3

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Senate Republicans slipped a tax break for wealthy real estate inve...
The measure will cut taxes for wealthy investors by an estimated $170 billion over the next decade, according to The New York Times.
https://i.insider.com/5e7dad5314f18f4007120884?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Mar-20 05:12 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1243492408437940224?s=20

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Things China Doesn't Want You To Know (@TruthAbtChina)
https://twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1243492408437940224?s=20
This man confirms the riots were sparked by Jiangxi police crossing into Hubei's jurisdiction. https://t.co/TpoeSHq3Qn
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Twitter


[27-Mar-20 05:12 PM] ononim#8141
Of all things to start a riot in China


[27-Mar-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/yPIA84z

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Massie's public statement on the roll call vote. Read it and make up your own mind.
https://i.imgur.com/N87W5lYh.jpg


[27-Mar-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
way more inside


[27-Mar-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1243575048604090371?s=21

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Brad Parscale - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@parscale)
https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1243575048604090371?s=21
Here’s an explanation for why @JoeBiden, Democrats & the media are in full-scale attack mode against @realDonaldTrump.

His RealClearPolitics average approval rating today is 47.3. 

On Election Day 2016 it was 37.5.  

And he won.

He’s almost 10 points higher now.
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[27-Mar-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m sorry WHAT???


[27-Mar-20 05:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump is claiming credit for a successful handling of the outbreak and the economy bouncing back


[27-Mar-20 05:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Despite neither of those things being true, his base is reinvigorated


[27-Mar-20 05:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Those numbers are probably accurate, but they are still illogical. Case in point: ABC's latest poll came up with 58% saying he was too slow to respond to the crisis, but only 45% disapproving of his handling of it


[27-Mar-20 05:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the truth is, most americans don't have a grasp on how serious the problem actually is if they even think there is one at all


[27-Mar-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the head of the EPA just made it even worse, :hopeless:


[27-Mar-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The Environmental Protection Agency announced Thursday it has stopped enforcing a host of environmental regulations because of the coronavirus pandemic.
> 
> Facilities must comply with regulations "where reasonably practicable," the EPA said in a statement. But the agency will not "seek penalties for noncompliance with routine monitoring and reporting obligations."
> 
> The agency's normal regulations would unnecessarily hamper companies that emit pollutants, said Administrator Andrew Wheeler, since the companies are also trying to "protect workers and the public from COVID-19," the disease caused by the virus.
> 
> The policy applies to civil violations, according to the statement, but "does not provide leniency for intentional criminal violations of law."


[27-Mar-20 05:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Wheeler is just one more in a trend of tailor-made worst possible people for the job


[27-Mar-20 05:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
his goal, as is the goal of practically everyone else Trump has appointed, is to dismantle our regulatory body from within


[27-Mar-20 05:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And his confirmation slid by practically on party lines, and it happened at the end of February


[27-Mar-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the end of this administration, trumps cabinet and appointees should be brought into the streets and shot for treason


[27-Mar-20 05:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is far more than just his cabinet, as the last thing I said illustrated


[27-Mar-20 05:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we've got an entire political party abandoning not only their constitutional oath, but the people it was written to protect, because it's getting in the way of the system they *actually* want to run the country with


[27-Mar-20 05:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/cleveland-march-end-covid-hoax/?os=dd

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No, there was not a march to end the coronavirus in Ohio
A photo of crowded Cleveland streets purporting to be from a coronavirus march has been making the rounds online, enraging people and causing concern.
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Cleveland_COVID_march.jpg


[27-Mar-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
coronavirus march?


[27-Mar-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
the whole thing is a fake


[27-Mar-20 05:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
[teakettle whistling]


[27-Mar-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/new-jersey-twitter-memes-coronavirus/

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https://www.dailydot.com/debug/new-jersey-twitter-memes-coronavirus/
New Jersey is guiding residents through the coronavirus outbreak wi...
The Garden State can meme with the best of 'em.
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/new-jersey-meme-sign.jpg


[27-Mar-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-attacks-general-motors-on-twitter-over-ventilator-deal-2020-3

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https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-attacks-general-motors-on-twitter-over-ventilator-deal-2020-3
Trump is attacking GM on Twitter after the White House suddenly pul...
He also demanded that Ford produce ventilators, which could be in short supply as hospitals are deluged with patients.
https://i.insider.com/5e79e8242d654f0bb60078e2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Mar-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/stressed-saved-face-wall-gif-14509438

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[27-Mar-20 06:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we can only hope that Russia's COVID-19 numbers are a result of underreporting


[27-Mar-20 06:08 PM] ononim#8141
I am sorry what?


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume the idea is, if they're legit, even _Russia_ managed a crisis worlds better than US


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
have you seen Trump administration?


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
Putin is competent dictator as far as those go


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it doesn't take a lot to surpass them


[27-Mar-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
he's not a lolcow like Trump or Bolsonaro


[27-Mar-20 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.ft.com/content/2b70712c-6e3f-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

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https://www.ft.com/content/2b70712c-6e3f-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
Subscribe to read | Financial Times
News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publication

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[27-Mar-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s telling me i cannot read this article


[27-Mar-20 06:10 PM] ononim#8141
>  Chinese mask entrepreneur reaps $1.9bn coronavirus bonanza
> Company with 40% of China market is one of world’s biggest beneficiaries of surging demand


[27-Mar-20 06:11 PM] ononim#8141
then you are
then you are socialist state pursuing worker's liberation and abolition of capital

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[27-Mar-20 06:14 PM] jlun2#8758
from that tax article
> As The Times notes, Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law, was able to avoid paying any taxes in 2018 by applying on-paper, if not actually realized, losses from ample property investments.
daddy saved me!


[27-Mar-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Mar-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
anticlimactic isn't it


[27-Mar-20 06:19 PM] ononim#8141
I love conservative murrican boomers tweeting how everyone should not worry about them and go to work, and how they gladly sacrifice themselves for "the Economy"


[27-Mar-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
by all means.


[27-Mar-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
like that pastor who chose to die for his beliefs rather than face reality


[27-Mar-20 06:21 PM] ononim#8141
http://www.rusrevolution.info/posters/white/23.jpg

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[27-Mar-20 06:21 PM] ononim#8141
reminds me of this poster by WHites during Civil War lol


[27-Mar-20 06:22 PM] ononim#8141
But Въ жертву ЛИНИI


[27-Mar-20 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
yep


[27-Mar-20 06:23 PM] ononim#8141
also lol at how they just stright up made red army soldiers look like some mongolian caricature


[27-Mar-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
On unrelated note, why the fuck was Naked Macro Trotsky an image what was used more than once


[27-Mar-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://img.anews.com/media/gallery/119571261/461711177.jpg

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[27-Mar-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://zvzda.ru/wp-content/uploads/1d66efc47b54a174aeb7ccf2858ac134.jpeg

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[27-Mar-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he bathes naked int he skulls of his enemies?


[27-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
an excellent quesiton.


[27-Mar-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
both of those.


[27-Mar-20 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Big trot


[27-Mar-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/489852-house-passes-2-trillion-coronavirus-relief-bill-with-trump-to-sign-quickly

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House passes $2 trillion coronavirus relief bill, with Trump to sig...
The House on Friday passed a historic $2 trillion coronavirus relief package, overcoming 11th-hour hurdles erected by a GOP lawmaker that sent furious lawmakers across the country racing back to Washington to move the emergency legislation to Pres
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dome_capitol_032620upi_lead.jpg


[27-Mar-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm Florida
 2 Coral Gables police officers test positive for new coronavirus
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/27/2-coral-gables-police-officers-test-positive-for-new-coronavirus/

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2 Coral Gables police officers test positive for new coronavirus
Two Coral Gables police officers have tested positive for the new coronavirus, the department announced Friday.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/ZF0L70gof67kQzNPt-Q233zApr4=/640x360/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-gmg.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3366QAKQAVBSDCP2XY3L5OUPQY.jpg


[27-Mar-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/airlines-coronavirus-bailout-senate-stock-buybacks-2020-3

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Airlines will get the $60 billion bailout they asked for in the cor...
Airlines will be prohibited from laying off workers through at least September, and from stock buybacks or dividends for at least two years.
https://i.insider.com/5e7ba0cc2d41c10fa42023a8?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Mar-20 08:18 PM] Honahue#0656
good that it comes with caveats


[27-Mar-20 08:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
March the army into Boeing's offices to seize it for the state and compensate investors with a single dollar


[27-Mar-20 08:20 PM] Honahue#0656
airlines are like a hairs bredth away from being nationalized anyway, transport is a super low margins industry and has to be propped up with government spending may as well take it over


[27-Mar-20 08:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Properly nationalize Amtrak too so it can actually be a public utility and not a profitability meme


[27-Mar-20 08:23 PM] Honahue#0656
Amtraks problem is that it runs on frieght rail and those are both private and profitable so they get right of way, Amtrak needs it's own right of way to make good time, maybe nationalize frieght train too


[27-Mar-20 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think there's only one or two freight companies in the US


[27-Mar-20 08:24 PM] Honahue#0656
make transport a public utility


[27-Mar-20 08:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
More so running food and shit


[27-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
ores


[27-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
coal


[27-Mar-20 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
oil


[27-Mar-20 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
that's where the money is


[27-Mar-20 08:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1243592209418592258?s=21

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The White House (@WhiteHouse)
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1243592209418592258?s=21
Huge thanks to @Apple! Together with the White House, @CDCgov & @fema, Apple launched a COVID19 screening tool that guides users through questions about symptoms and exposure, using CDC guidance to help determine steps they should take, including testing.

https://t.co/CN7gO3...
Retweets
4600
Likes
13769
Twitter


[27-Mar-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
1) assume you are infected and act accordingly to prevent the spread or contracting it


[27-Mar-20 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
2) testing shouldn't have to be something that requires a flowchart given the asymptomatic incubation period


[27-Mar-20 08:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat https://twitter.com/trumpwatche/status/1243592368625942529?s=21

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Trump watch (@trumpwatche)
https://twitter.com/trumpwatche/status/1243592368625942529?s=21
@WhiteHouse @Apple @CDCgov @fema America is bouncing back faster than any other country ...
https://t.co/BAJmt5eIj1
Twitter


[27-Mar-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bullshit


[27-Mar-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[27-Mar-20 08:38 PM] illumnious#7938
It is


[27-Mar-20 08:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Also https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243572588200280064?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1243572588200280064?s=21
Never knew John Kerry had such a good sense of humor! Very impressed! https://t.co/vCVNMUeY2h
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[27-Mar-20 08:38 PM] illumnious#7938
What sense of humor now?


[27-Mar-20 08:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is far from the first time Trump has zeroed in on a one-inch trend on a graph that's been trending the other way for a mile and claimed victory


[27-Mar-20 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like he did with crime committed by immigrants


[27-Mar-20 08:45 PM] illumnious#7938

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[27-Mar-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean it's good that he can't block anyone on twitter but we really should've addressed the issue of him having direct access to it years ago


[27-Mar-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/27/nancy-pelosi-masterfully-stops-thomas-massie-from-blocking-coronavirus-aid-bill.html/amp#click=https://t.co/hRIjqnG4Ur

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[27-Mar-20 09:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
:upvote:


[27-Mar-20 09:26 PM] illumnious#7938
good


[27-Mar-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
>relief package signed


[27-Mar-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
>stonks down 5%


[27-Mar-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
lul


[27-Mar-20 09:43 PM] Honahue#0656
The Line amgery it's not getting a blood sacrifice


[27-Mar-20 09:46 PM] jlun2#8758
So no relief == stocks up. got it

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[27-Mar-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it requires a relief at the aztec blood alter


[27-Mar-20 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
no relief* rather


[27-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
the paper with the proposal torn in two with a huge angry red stamp DENIED on it


[27-Mar-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
gods tend to be rather dramatic.


[27-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>Apple launched a screening tool


[27-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn, now I need an iPhone if I want to find out if I've been infected 😔 😔


[27-Mar-20 10:45 PM] illumnious#7938
I need to upgrade mines to either 11 or 11 Pro


[27-Mar-20 10:46 PM] illumnious#7938
woo stonks still down

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[27-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, the Paul here is made of Paul

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[27-Mar-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://fortune.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-ventilators-shortage-gm-mary-barra-us-government-covid-19/

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[27-Mar-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XLXg4fYsc
oh nice

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[27-Mar-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it should peak around easter as everyone starts groping each other in a trump fueled church orgy thus maximizing the spread of the virus


[27-Mar-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
millions will die but it;s a peak we're willing to reach!


[27-Mar-20 11:11 PM] jlun2#8758
> millions
:squintyjack:


[27-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
ever wondered how Nurglite cult takeover of a planet looks like step by step?


[27-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
now you don't have to :3


[27-Mar-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
329.45 million is the last population total taken of the US


[27-Mar-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast until the 2020 census results shpow up


[27-Mar-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
correction it alreayd came out


[27-Mar-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
331,002,651 people


[27-Mar-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a large portion of that number is very susceptible to covid-19


[27-Mar-20 11:15 PM] jlun2#8758
I'll be amazed if only 1/3 of that got ill


[27-Mar-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even more so if people are forced back to work


[27-Mar-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is i hear actuall people in person talking about people as if they;re sacrificial pawns because "everyone has to die soemtime"


[27-Mar-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these people call themselves men of god


[27-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
.aq @prism stryder(intexda) it should peak around easter as everyone starts groping each other in a trump fueled church orgy thus maximizing the spread of the virus


[27-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Kobold Dungeon Squad**:  it should peak around easter as everyone starts groping each other in a trump fueled church orgy thus maximizing the spread of the virus).


[27-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
while not wrong, dying for the benefit of 1% is very much not ideal


[27-Mar-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd be better off becoming a suicide bomber


[27-Mar-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of my major pet peeves is people using the phrase "everyone has to die sometime" to refer to the suffering of others as opposed to self sacrifice


[27-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
obviously.


[27-Mar-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in a pandemic


[27-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
the speaker never has to die sometimes, they're too valuable


[27-Mar-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if they;re an elderly electrician teacher spitting bible quotes and saying america is burning because it;s too secular


[27-Mar-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conservative preaching has gotten so bad i had to start wearing headphones in class to drown it out


[27-Mar-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[27-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
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[27-Mar-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
lowkey hoping it's not a fake for once xD


[27-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
not really politics, but relevant.


[27-Mar-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess my next set of drown out music is a whole lot of ninja sex party


[27-Mar-20 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
like I said before


[27-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm genuinly fascinated by this world I'm living in, where Trump's government is _too far left_


[27-Mar-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
my president has the smoothest brain


[27-Mar-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
the best, smoothest brain ever


[27-Mar-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody ever had a brain so smooth before


[28-Mar-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has the smoothest brain, he ironed it himself


[28-Mar-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation

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[28-Mar-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Why is there a controversy


[28-Mar-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
That should be the end of it


[28-Mar-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] but he's our lightbringer against trump


[28-Mar-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've thought about this and I think a lot of it really is "That could be my son who got accused" is stronger than "That could be my daughter accusing someone"


[28-Mar-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but didn't you hear SANDERS said a bad thing about WOMEN


[28-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, he did write that thing about rape.


[28-Mar-20 01:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I'm not a white man, so I got the feeling if I got accused my life is doomed


[28-Mar-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What kind of non-white?


[28-Mar-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
Asian


[28-Mar-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll be fine.


[28-Mar-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Racists consider Asians "honorary whites" after all.


[28-Mar-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm keep getting in trouble irl so :squintyjack:


[28-Mar-20 01:19 AM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/JJpt6Bse0j8

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COVID 10: Is COVID-19 an airborne disease? Will we all need to wear...
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[28-Mar-20 02:12 AM] Honahue#0656
racist don't care, asians are a "model minority" one day and spreaders of the "kung flu" the next


[28-Mar-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My school switched to pass/fail only this semester. Meanwhile

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[28-Mar-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
same here


[28-Mar-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
this is so incredibly stupid


[28-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
'find a convincing excuse and we'll let you off'


[28-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
wtf


[28-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
American college is a scam, Opponent.


[28-Mar-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is them making sure they don't get slammed for students failing for reasons beyond their control.


[28-Mar-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is ASU Law.


[28-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
National bar examiners have already prepared and said they're giving an exam in the Fall


[28-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because of that, New York said "we're not holding a July one"


[28-Mar-20 02:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/1NBKObcLrm4

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Žižek in Star Wars - Slavoj Skywalker's Final Lesson: Revolution
HE'S BACK!!!


...for one last time. Naive Rey finally wants to do something against our neoliberal, unjust system. But again: Things aren't that easy! Rey looks confused. Old white male Slavoj wants to sell his mother into slavery.


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[28-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
out of the $10000 I paid (after a $5000 scholarship) this semester


[28-Mar-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I get about $2000 back


[28-Mar-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm actually not complaining too much though becauseonly room & board were refunded


[28-Mar-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
and that was 4000-ish


[28-Mar-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1243683419759968258

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The Villages, Florida's huge Republican-rich retirement community, is experiencing community spread of coronavirus more than a week after Gov. Ron DeSantis was criticized for his slow and cautious response 

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[28-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I assume his slow response was being slow at calling out DNC hoax


[28-Mar-20 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[28-Mar-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[28-Mar-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's the third time I adjust the parameters


[28-Mar-20 04:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Obviously the data don't want to follow the scientific model


[28-Mar-20 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe you keep having to adjust the parameters because something keeps changing "on the ground" like a sudden wave of testing in an area or a beach party that ramped up the outbreak


[28-Mar-20 04:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The number of newly infected cases is always above the model expectation


[28-Mar-20 04:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If this continues, I'll have to seek an another more complex model


[28-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-boomers-will-sacrifice-themselves-on-the-beaches-of-covid-19

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[28-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
LINE GO UP


[28-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
LINE GO UP


[28-Mar-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
SACRIFICE TO THE MINOTAUR


[28-Mar-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty fucking bad, yeah.


[28-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
can we pin this one please?


[28-Mar-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
Too bad even if worse case 2m people die that's almost a rounding error with respect to voting given the sheer number of boomer voters


[28-Mar-20 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ha, you think there'll *be* a vote in the worst-case scenario?


[28-Mar-20 04:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Election gets called off and you get 4 more years of Trump by default because the virus situation is so bad. 
Even though it it is so bad because of Trump. :shrugpony:


[28-Mar-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what I'm thinking barr et al will try to convince us of


[28-Mar-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
based on some memo he pulled from between truman's dessicated buttcheeks


[28-Mar-20 04:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[28-Mar-20 05:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243726993537073152

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I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude! #MAGA
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[28-Mar-20 05:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently this is what it takes for the major networks to turn on the president


[28-Mar-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, all except fox, not really sure if they're letting anyone other than their token liberals say "trump should get out of the way and let the experts handle this crisis"


[28-Mar-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if at all


[28-Mar-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[28-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man it will be weird when a Democratic president ignores the needs of citizens because they're in red states


[28-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wait, that will never happen.


[28-Mar-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also he's mad at Whitmer because she's in the top ten of VP picks for Biden.


[28-Mar-20 06:07 AM] jlun2#8758
so are trump supporters happy of killing off their grandparents?


[28-Mar-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's this weird thing where older people are saying they're willing to die for the line to go up


[28-Mar-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't need to say "I'll work even if my grandpa dies" when you grandpa apparently has already agreed to infect himself or something


[28-Mar-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not that it really matters, one of the major lasting effects of this is that people will realize exactly how much work can be done remotely.


[28-Mar-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
my neighbor with an oxygen cannula seems to have been taking daily car trips *somewhere* and I am really hoping my house is far enough away from theirs


[28-Mar-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We had my job done from my house for four months during Corona and it worked, why not now?"


[28-Mar-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just go to the grocery store about every five or six days and wear gloves when I do


[28-Mar-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They put up barriers between you and the checkers now


[28-Mar-20 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that frequently? Man, I've always stocked up for a month


[28-Mar-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I could if I had to


[28-Mar-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
stonks down a little overnight https://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/

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[28-Mar-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh no, whatever will we do


[28-Mar-20 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
its still too high


[28-Mar-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Mar-20 06:42 AM] jlun2#8758
so is it now acceptable to mainstream conservative voters to kill old people?

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[28-Mar-20 06:43 AM] Treascair#7785
as I like to note about this sort of thing... "you first, fuckers"


[28-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[28-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
mainstream conservatives believe that it's worth literally dying to go to church.


[28-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't pro-life


[28-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're anti-woman


[28-Mar-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
death is okay as long as it's done bowing down to god and obeying your husband.


[28-Mar-20 06:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> church
The teachings of Jesus, or their stock market?


[28-Mar-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither


[28-Mar-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
literally walking into a church to pretend they understand a damn thing Jesus said (they don't, he was a liberal)


[28-Mar-20 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
why are they Christian again?


[28-Mar-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Childhood indoctrination


[28-Mar-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
More to the point, protestantism in the English form tends to be of the opinion that class is determined by birth.


[28-Mar-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially completely opposite what Jesus said


[28-Mar-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
that poor people deserve to be left to die


[28-Mar-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that rich people are righteous.


[28-Mar-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/BaSkI6g

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[28-Mar-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
:oof:
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[28-Mar-20 06:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so do they just live in denial when the tweet above happens to them?


[28-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically.


[28-Mar-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives/boomers liv in complete denial at all times.


[28-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't denial imply they know what the right way is deep down but refuse to acknowledge it?


[28-Mar-20 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's ignorance, not denial.


[28-Mar-20 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what really is the difference between willful ignorance and denial, anyway


[28-Mar-20 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's gotta be willful or else they've all got early-onset alzheimer's that specifically targets anything a republican falsely promises


[28-Mar-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Denial is knowing you're wrong and actively trying to stop thinking about it, willful ignorance is trying to avoid ever find out if you are wrong or right I guess


[28-Mar-20 08:18 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm a Republican


[28-Mar-20 08:20 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
And all I see is both sides being retarted


[28-Mar-20 08:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Mar-20 08:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of-covid-19-was-denied-treatment-because-1842520539

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A 17-year-old boy in Los Angeles County who became the first teen believed to have died from complications with covid-19 in the U.S. was denied treatment at an urgent care clinic because he didn’t have health insurance, according to R. Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, Calif...
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[28-Mar-20 08:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles/after-trump-attacks-whitmer-she-says-fed-supplies-delayed

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After Trump Attacks Whitmer, She Says Vendors Aren't Sending Desperately Needed Coronavirus Supplies
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[28-Mar-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That mayor talks like he doesn't know how clinics fukking work.


[28-Mar-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said that they should accept people in with respiratory distress regardless of insurance.


[28-Mar-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's ER rules, not urgent care.


[28-Mar-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians need it slammed in their fukking faces that the system is broken.


[28-Mar-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-learned-coronavirus-inspired-bomb-plotter-radicalized-us/story?id=69818116

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FBI learned of coronavirus-inspired bomb plotter through radicalize...
The FBI learned of a coronavirus-inspired bomb plotter through radicalized U.S. Army soldier.
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[28-Mar-20 09:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/1243679548581056514?s=20

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The 2009 Recovery Act had a special provision: a dedicated IG to police spending. 

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Trump announced he intends to obstruct the special IG in the new stimulus bill....
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[28-Mar-20 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-trump-told-pence-not-to-call-washington-michigan-governors.html

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Trump says he told Pence not to call governors who aren't 'apprecia...
Trump said that Pence "calls all the governors" about the coronavirus. "And I say, 'Mike, don't call the governor of Washington.'"
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[28-Mar-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Mar-20 11:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will America stocks raise up next week?


[28-Mar-20 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on what comes out of trump's mouth next


[28-Mar-20 11:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If it won't, the suicide rate of China will blow up


[28-Mar-20 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imaging stonks down due to infection and death rates exploding


[28-Mar-20 11:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stock-market-crash-shares-still-overvalued-coronavirus-downturn-john-hussman-2020-3

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A notorious market bear says stocks are still historically expensiv...
"There's absolutely no assurance that an oversold market will not become decidedly more oversold," says John Hussman.
https://i.insider.com/5e7dfbebba85ee5ffb23d463?width=1200&format=jpeg


[28-Mar-20 11:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one guy predicts a 50% fall


[28-Mar-20 11:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[28-Mar-20 11:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The stock market for the last three weeks has been inflated with hot air


[28-Mar-20 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be a lot worse right now except trump keeps dumping money into the fire pit


[28-Mar-20 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which just makes it worse in the long run


[28-Mar-20 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But as long as that collapse happens after November, nothing else matters


[28-Mar-20 11:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Collapse?


[28-Mar-20 11:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we are on the verge of economic and stock market collapse and depression


[28-Mar-20 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_stock_market_crash


[28-Mar-20 11:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-indexes-drop-coronavirus-aid-bill-signed-2020-3-1029040820

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Dow tumbles 915 points as coronavirus spread offsets stimulus bill ...
Major US stock indexes slipped on Friday as coronavirus infections in the US increased to outnumber those in China. Investors also further diges...
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[28-Mar-20 11:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just another blue period of the stonks... as happens periodicly in every about 14 years


[28-Mar-20 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in this case it;s driven by a plague event and an oil war, so it might not be liek regular blue periods


[28-Mar-20 11:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It will be fixed soon as other ones


[28-Mar-20 11:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually it;s predicted to be worse than the 1920 great depression


[28-Mar-20 11:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

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The Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic depression that took place mostly during the 1930s, beginning in the United States. The timing of the Great Depression varied across the world; in most countries, it started in 1929 and lasted until the late 1930s. It was th...
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[28-Mar-20 11:55 AM] jlun2#8758
For young people only, or does that include boomers?


[28-Mar-20 11:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Um... u mean the only one which is in our history textbook?


[28-Mar-20 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea what china says about the great depression


[28-Mar-20 11:58 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/taranurin/2020/03/22/while-chain-restaurants-ask-for-government-bail-outs-most-refuse-to-bail-out-sick-hourly-employees/#388a37ee35f2>
> The NRA predicts the foodservice industry could lose 5 million to 7 million jobs in the next three months.
(NRA = National Restaurant Association) 
Also that's mostly employing young ppl


[28-Mar-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unemployment is expected to rise 20-30%


[28-Mar-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archive.org/details/nationalemergencylibrary


[28-Mar-20 12:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was created for the pandemic which is a load of archived teaching materials


[28-Mar-20 12:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Mar-20 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05/04/a-1924-law-allows-democrats-to-directly-sue-to-get-trumps-tax-returns.html

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A 1924 Law Allows Democrats To Directly Sue To Get Trump’s Tax Retu...
A 1924 law allows House Democrats to bypass the subpoena process and directly sue the Treasury Department for Trump's tax returns.
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[28-Mar-20 12:12 PM] Crow#5457
I found this old article, I guess nothing ever came of it


[28-Mar-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it did, and thne trump countered it, and obstructed it and thne continued to do so everytime they found soemthing else to nail him with


[28-Mar-20 01:59 PM] ononim#8141

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[28-Mar-20 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
context?


[28-Mar-20 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Context is channers should all be put against a wall and shot


[28-Mar-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, in fairness, the planet should freed of of human pollution overall. It would be greatly helpful for climate if humanity ceased to exist.


[28-Mar-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not what I was asking


[28-Mar-20 02:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

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QAnon
QAnon () is a far-right conspiracy theory detailing a supposed secret plot by an alleged "deep state" against U.S. President Donald Trump and his supporters. The theory began with an October 2017 post on the anonymous imageboard 4chan by someone using the name Q, a presumably ...
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[28-Mar-20 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
right. Much obliged.


[28-Mar-20 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
very amusing that it got not just a huge wiki page, but also other languages xD


[28-Mar-20 02:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Opponent If you want to get a taste of "qanon", check the comment sections of Breitbart


[28-Mar-20 02:28 PM] jlun2#8758
are there an infinite amount of channers or something


[28-Mar-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I've seen that


[28-Mar-20 02:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's full of the absolute most moronic an vile excuses for living tissue on the planet


[28-Mar-20 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 what's with you and infinite numbers of enemies anyway? :D


[28-Mar-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
well Tea, US is big, there's an incredible amount of irrelevant, forgotten people.There's probably no better place for something like this, it's entirely unsuprising.


[28-Mar-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
actually Russia would be better, but luckily for the world most of the people live in places without proper internet or money to secure it


[28-Mar-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a better place for them, a playground in the middle of an 8-lane highway


[28-Mar-20 02:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent they keep appearing in my life like some (perceived) endless whack a mole


[28-Mar-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those people are no better than the ISIS cheerleaders


[28-Mar-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same mentality, and many, many shared beliefs


[28-Mar-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, but they're still irrelevant, so no reason to worry overmuch


[28-Mar-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
squeaky wheel gets the grease


[28-Mar-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Loudest voice in the crowd always gets heard


[28-Mar-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but that's not exactly them isn't it. Unless I entirely misunderstood the wiki, that is.


[28-Mar-20 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
100 people 99 sane minding their own business, one crazy asshole starts screaming and that's what people hear


[28-Mar-20 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
the qanon thing, it trickles down directly to trump


[28-Mar-20 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It goes from 4chan to oann to fox news to trump


[28-Mar-20 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The man is a complete moron


[28-Mar-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
well, yes, but he's not the one to expect any productive action from anyway


[28-Mar-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's w/e


[28-Mar-20 02:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is difficult to articulate how stupid and vacuous he is


[28-Mar-20 02:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it's frustrating, but not really relevant. He couldn't be any better, channers or not. Enough of US voted for him to say they got what they deserved, shame the rest of the world got stuck with him too.


[28-Mar-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeremybogaisky/2020/03/27/united-airlines-to-workers-expect-layoffs-after-bailout-restrictions-end/#32cb85be2e2c

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United Airlines To Workers: Expect Layoffs After Bailout Restrictio...
A bailout package signed Friday by President Trump gives airlines money to fund their payrolls through Sept. 30, but United executives warned that they expect a slow recovery from the coronavirus pandemic that will require shrinking the airline.
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[28-Mar-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[28-Mar-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
SHOCKED


[28-Mar-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
they at least have a semi-legitimate excuse.


[28-Mar-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Mar-20 03:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[28-Mar-20 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
he confuses authoritarians and morons.


[28-Mar-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489978-trump-approves-disaster-declaration-for-michigan-despite-sparring

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Trump approves disaster declaration for Michigan despite sparring w...
President Trump approved Michigan's disaster declaration late Friday after feuding publicly with the state's governor, Gretchen Whitmer (D).
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[28-Mar-20 04:35 PM] illumnious#7938
'We need it now': Doctors plead for help in NYC borough hardest hit by coronavirus https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/we-need-it-now-doctors-plead-help-nyc-borough-hardest-n1170701

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'We need it now': Doctors plead for help in NYC borough hardest hit...
“This is getting worse and worse and worse,” said an emergency room doctor at a public hospital in Queens.
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[28-Mar-20 04:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/489983-tucker-carlson-biden-wont-be-the-democratic-nominee-andrew-cuomo-most-likely

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Tucker Carlson: Biden won't be the Democratic nominee, Andrew Cuomo...
Tucker Carlson says he believes that Joe Biden "will not be the Democratic nominee on Election Day," with the Fox News host offering Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) as ultimately the candidate to take on President Trump in November.
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[28-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
so a guy nobody ever heard of is supposed to be the beacon of light against the guy who's only strong suit is public stunts.


[28-Mar-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
good times.


[28-Mar-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can cuomo as a candidate actually happen?


[28-Mar-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/03/ny-gov-andrew-cuomo-i-dont-want-to-be-vice-president.html

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NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo: ‘I don’t want to be vice president’
Cuomo is earning national praise for his response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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[28-Mar-20 04:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"please just let me do my job"


[28-Mar-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489965-trump-orders-us-troops-back-to-active-duty-for-coronavirus-response

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Trump orders US troops back to active duty for coronavirus response
President Trump signed an executive order on Friday that allows the Pentagon to mobilize former U.S. troops and members of the National Guard to help supplement troops already being used to combat the coronavirus outbreak in the country.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald5_032120getty.jpg


[28-Mar-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
mass executions when


[28-Mar-20 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/report-78-of-american-corporations-living-stimulus-to-stimulus/

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Report: 78% of American Corporations Living Stimulus to Stimulus
The U.S. Department of Commerce issued a concerning report this morning that 78% of American corporations are barely scraping by and living stimulus to stimulus.
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[28-Mar-20 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hubei-residents-riot-after-quarantine-lifted-police-beaten-their-own-shield-cop-cars

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Hubei Residents Riot After Quarantine Lifted; Police Beaten With Th...
CCP officials have already scrubbed the footage from Chinese social media...
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[28-Mar-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554415180696518681/693319080568029244/Poland_gives_ZERO_fucks.mp4

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[28-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/us/rhode-island-tracking-down-new-yorkers/index.html

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Rhode Island will knock on doors and stop cars to find New Yorkers ...
Rhode Island's governor said Friday that law enforcement officers will stop cars and knock on doors in coastal communities to identify people who've been to New York state, joining other states in restricting the movements of out-of-state visitors to slow the spread of coronav...
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[28-Mar-20 06:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it begins


[28-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
> "While the Governor may have the power to suspend some state laws and regulations to address this medical emergency, she cannot suspend the Constitution. Under the Fourth Amendment, having a New York state license plate simply does not, and cannot, constitute 'probable cause' to allow police to stop a car and interrogate the driver, no matter how laudable the goal of the stop may be."


[28-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
ACLU is pissed


[28-Mar-20 07:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/clairecmc/status/1224171718274625536


[28-Mar-20 07:11 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm not surprised https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/trump-narcissism-american-blood-coronavirus

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Trump's narcissism has taken a new twist. And now he has American b...
The US president has been exposed by the coronavirus crisis. The only small comfort for the rest of the world is that he’s not their leader, says Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland
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[28-Mar-20 07:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> Report: 78% of American Corporations Living Stimulus to Stimulus
were they all spending that money on private yachts?


[28-Mar-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
maybe


[28-Mar-20 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/_vs_the_world/status/1243635345138290695

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[28-Mar-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/china-and-vietnam-finally-ban-wildlife-trade-due-to-coronavirus/

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China and Vietnam finally ban wildlife trade due to coronavirus
If there can be a bright side to the coronavirus pandemic, which started in a “wet market” in Wuhan that sold live animals in deplorable conditions, it has finally spurred China and Vietnam to ban …
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[28-Mar-20 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[28-Mar-20 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well chinese resorted to pangolin because they beleived it medicinally bestowed immortality, so maybe not all of it is worth preserving


[28-Mar-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in reality, pangolin scales are made of the same stuff as your fingernails and toenails


[28-Mar-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd think 'bestows immortality' would be easy to disprove.


[28-Mar-20 08:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
immortality, results may vary


[28-Mar-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's super easy to sell snake oil if your snake oil requires very particular circumstances to work, not the *least* of which is literal belief that it will work. After all, if you resist the effects of the dragon bone elixir, why wouldn't the dragon bone elixir have a hard time aligning your chakras and making your dicc bigger?


[28-Mar-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
I agree with the tweet on that saying it's "weird" is American-centric as hell, but I also agree the people buying them due are kinda dumb thinking it bestows immortality and it should be cracked down medical wise


[28-Mar-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also considering this disease came form bats, pangolins, and whatever else, they might want to stick to domesticated animals for ahwile


[28-Mar-20 08:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
That belief of the purported benefits of buying "weird" animals is fairly recent as I recall learning. Like, as early as post-Great Leap Forward. The wet market as it exists today never really existed before since it was a stop-gap measure to keep people from literally fucking dying during Mao's fuckery. The state just sorta supported it and then institutionalized it because it became such an important thing, then when the food crisis was over became a thing for profit; and thus an ultimately capitalist game.

As such it does suffer from the same issues as the meat industry as a whole or in the past and animal-to-human transmission of diseases through high-intensity husbandry isn't specific to China and has occured throughout the world. MERS from camels in the Gulf States, and the various Swine Flu epidemics such as the Spanish Flu, which actually began in Kansas.


[28-Mar-20 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
The pattern of regulatory failure in sanitation is similar to the meat packing industry early on its life and into the early 1900's, and for the most part even today. A high volume of animals will always be a breeding ground of disease since all the vectors of transmission will equal an eventual infection that can pass onto humans or enter the food supply if not caught.


[28-Mar-20 08:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Chinese wet market is worse since they stack bleeding, puss oozing, pissing, and shitting animals on top of each other.


[28-Mar-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2020/03/26/attorney-general-william-barr-transgender-girls-are-male/

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[28-Mar-20 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/busted-floridas-gop-governor-illegally-denied-miami-herald-access-to-coronavirus-briefing/?utm_source=push_notifications

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BUSTED: Florida’s GOP governor illegally denied Miami Herald access...
Gov. Ron DeSantis denied the Miami Herald access to a COVID-19 coronavirus briefing, the newspaper’s Tallahassee Bureau Chief reported Saturday. “Gov. Ron DeSantis decided to violate the state’s public meeting laws and chose to exclude the Miami Herald and Tampa Bay Times from...
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[28-Mar-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) Barr must die


[28-Mar-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No conditions


[28-Mar-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He just must fucking die


[28-Mar-20 10:13 PM] jlun2#8758
he's going to live to 90s isnt he


[28-Mar-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/28/21197995/coronavirus-stimulus-trump-inspector-general-wont-comply

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[28-Mar-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to break the law, and you won't do anything to me


[28-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
he's above the law after all.


[28-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
No president is above the law. They ought to impeach him someday.


[28-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*OH WAIT*


[28-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
impeachment should be a popular vote tbh


[28-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
at least focus on lying to the populace at large instead of ignoring them


[28-Mar-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't solve the problem


[28-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem is a "who watches the watchmen" thing


[28-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
On an unrelated note, I forgot Hard Times was satire :wheeze:


[28-Mar-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
if impeachment was a popular vote trump would just call it rigged and demand the results tampered with


[28-Mar-20 11:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/twitter-blocked-coronavirus-misinformation-from-rudy-giuliani-and-another-right-wing-internet-troll-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[28-Mar-20 11:31 PM] illumnious#7938
gooooooooooood


[28-Mar-20 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
covid virus, he's our hero


[29-Mar-20 12:10 AM] illumnious#7938
today's stonks

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[29-Mar-20 12:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
All those *drops*


[29-Mar-20 12:21 AM] illumnious#7938
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that title tho

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[29-Mar-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> stock market bottom
time to panic buy stocks


[29-Mar-20 12:22 AM] illumnious#7938
article https://finance.yahoo.com/m/b8698a1b-ee14-30d7-9385-535b962d413d/getting-crushed-in-this.html?.tsrc=applewf

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[29-Mar-20 12:24 AM] illumnious#7938
Nikkei stocks are up I think

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[29-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Mar-20 01:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I hope this is just them kissing Chinas ass to keep them complying.


[29-Mar-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
china wouldn't want this anyway because it makes them look bad


[29-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
ye at this point Taiwan and Hong Kong are very much their own states, with their ~~honest~~ panic-inducing reporting thank you very much.


[29-Mar-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-considering-quarantine-on-new-york-new-jersey-and-connecticut-2020-3

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Trump backtracks on a quarantine order for New York, New Jersey, an...
"We might not have to do it, but there's a possibility that sometime today we'll do a quarantine — short term two weeks," Trump told reporters.
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[29-Mar-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-us-cases-health-risk-2020-1

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LIVE UPDATES: The US death toll doubles in 2 days and surpasses 2,0...
Trump says it will "not be necessary" to order a quarantine for three states. Here's the latest news about the coronavirus outbreak around the world.
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[29-Mar-20 03:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Too many fucking conspiracy theorists of corona now in our social media


[29-Mar-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what are thye saying now?


[29-Mar-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senators-fda-rollback-restrictions-gay-bisexual-men-amid-blood-shortage-2020-3

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Top public health officials urged healthy Americans to donate blood as the novel coronavirus outbreak resulted in a nationwide shortage.
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[29-Mar-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt evne know this restriction existed


[29-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[29-Mar-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah I can't donate blood


[29-Mar-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've never tried donating blood but this also means i can't and i dont knwo how that works...


[29-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I should double-check Canada's restrictions on this actually...


[29-Mar-20 03:51 AM] illumnious#7938
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[29-Mar-20 03:51 AM] illumnious#7938
and I oop


[29-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Today, men are eligible to give blood if it has been more than three months since their last sexual contact with a man. Health Canada announced its approval of this change in May 2019.


[29-Mar-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, according to the restrictions, i coudl totally donate blood as i;ve never had sex in my fucking life


[29-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, I should have scrolled down a bit more


[29-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah and since this relies on, more or less, your honest word, well, it's not that much of a restriction.


[29-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> 2016: Health Canada approved Canadian Blood Services’ proposal to reduce the blood donation ineligibility period for men who have sex with men from five years to one year.


[29-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
so progressively less stupid.


[29-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
baby steps, but still


[29-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
2011 was 10 years, 2013 was 5 years, 2016 was one year, 2019 is three months


[29-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Makes me wonder what the US has been doing since 2011, if they're *still* not allowing gay men to donate blood to this day. :wat:


[29-Mar-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
panicing


[29-Mar-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we've been panicing


[29-Mar-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the restriction probably wouldnt still exist if we didint have a a senate majority of republicans the entire last decade


[29-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...but isn't there still a majority of republicans today :ponythinking:


[29-Mar-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[29-Mar-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the issue


[29-Mar-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate republicans have largely destroyed most attmepts at proggressive bills being passed


[29-Mar-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for near a decade now


[29-Mar-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hobby-lobby-reportedly-leaving-stores-open-message-from-god-2020-3

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[29-Mar-20 04:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Doomers here are saying that corona is a bio weapon released by the USA


[29-Mar-20 04:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially my grandma


[29-Mar-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, southerners here have been saying it;s a bio weapon leaked by china


[29-Mar-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
including my elderly electrical teacher, and one 40+ year old student


[29-Mar-20 04:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah, someone says like this here too


[29-Mar-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
> yeah and since this relies on, more or less, your honest word, well, it's not that much of a restriction.


[29-Mar-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not going to lie to a care provider, even in the capacity of giving blood


[29-Mar-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
if they don't want my blood, they don't want it


[29-Mar-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
they can fuck right off


[29-Mar-20 04:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why to donate blood? Corona cause blood loss?


[29-Mar-20 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people need blood transplants


[29-Mar-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because coronavirus is not the only disease affecting the world


[29-Mar-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and blood can only be stored for so long


[29-Mar-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US policy is no sex with other men, or with those who had sex with other men, in the last year


[29-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
this was changed from a lifetime ban in 2015.


[29-Mar-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are scum.


[29-Mar-20 04:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[29-Mar-20 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other emergencies dont take a break just because there's a pandemic going on


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How can having sex affect blood donation


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt effect the blood at all


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FDA considers gay men a high risk group.


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but christians might get offended receiving blood donations from a gay dude


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite there now being barely any difference.


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
...


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And despite actual testing of the blood supply being in effect.


[29-Mar-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are scum.


[29-Mar-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it mostly ties back to the aids pandemic and further, where republicans were looking for any effort at all to just wipe gay people from society


[29-Mar-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyone could get aids, but gays were blamed for it because that was the easiest way to make people fear them


[29-Mar-20 04:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought Christians are nearly extincted already


[29-Mar-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> but christians might get offended receiving blood donations from a gay dude
:nut:


[29-Mar-20 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not in the US


[29-Mar-20 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we just made up a whole bunch of nonsense that we're *calling* christianity


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know one of my classmates' mom is a Christian


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
but you live in china


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
She doesn't allow her kid to buy any plushie


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang meanwhile Christians think Corona is a biowaepon from Heaven <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7941013/Pastor-says-believes-coronavirus-plague-sent-God-purge-lot-sin-planet.html>


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
protestantism is widespread in the US


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my teacher is one of them


[29-Mar-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> She doesn't allow her kid to buy any plushie
????


[29-Mar-20 04:16 AM] jlun2#8758
Did the bible forbid plush toys?


[29-Mar-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Corona virus is a god sent plague of the apocalypse!"


[29-Mar-20 04:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
She thinks plushies are "idols".


[29-Mar-20 04:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
As well as posters


[29-Mar-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's dumb


[29-Mar-20 04:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So my poor classmate can't buy any toys until entered the college


[29-Mar-20 04:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just imagine you can't buy any plushie except Jesus's


[29-Mar-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how the creepy doll lady happens


[29-Mar-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just a house full of creepy staring jesus dolls


[29-Mar-20 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Welcome to my home, this is the room where 100 jesus figures watch you sleep"


[29-Mar-20 04:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait that's *exactly* what a graven image is


[29-Mar-20 04:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's literally the one thing that commandment says you shouldn't do


[29-Mar-20 04:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> a carved idol or representation of a god used as an object of worship.
@WingbeatPony Don't worry it's made of plastic instead of carved, and we don't worship it. It's fine. ~boomer logic


[29-Mar-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Mar-20 05:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/privacy-rights-may-become-next-victim-of-killer-pandemic/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[29-Mar-20 05:34 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, of course.


[29-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
Patriot's act 2: Electric Boogaloo.


[29-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
and it's no wonder authoritarians use it as an excuse


[29-Mar-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
w/e. People who want to will find a way.


[29-Mar-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
accoerding to american christians, god is an abusive spouse and we;re never supposed to leave him...


[29-Mar-20 05:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~that was old testament god~~


[29-Mar-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
New Testament God says he's changed, and you shouldn't run away just because he beat you.


[29-Mar-20 05:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you run, he will find you and murder your loved ones with his rifle of love


[29-Mar-20 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was your fault he had to kill your parents, you made him do this


[29-Mar-20 06:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you just weren;t commited enough to the relationship


[29-Mar-20 06:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-death-toll-passes-2000-doubles-2-days-2020-3

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The US coronavirus death toll has surpassed 2,000, doubling in just...
Coronavirus-related deaths have more than doubled since Thursday, when American health officials reported 1,000 deaths.
https://i.insider.com/5e7ff8390c2a6254254811e4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[29-Mar-20 06:42 AM] jlun2#8758
was that enough to stop the recession by raising stock prices? or do the boomers need more blood?


[29-Mar-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hahahahahhahahahahaha


[29-Mar-20 07:42 AM] Cloudy#3004
I can feel the real estate rising


[29-Mar-20 08:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/what-happens-if-workers-cutting-up-the-nations-meat-get-sick

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What Happens If Workers Cutting Up the Nation’s Meat Get Sick? — Pr...
As meatpackers rush to meet demand, their employees are starting to get COVID-19. But some workers say they’re going to work ill because they don’t have paid sick days and can be penalized for staying home.
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[29-Mar-20 09:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-Mar-20 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Mar-20 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/28/822969308/-2-trillion-coronavirus-relief-bill-presents-a-reckoning-for-libertarians

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$2 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Bill Presents A Reckoning For Libert...
In years to come, how will fiscal conservatives who voted for $2 trillion attack the cost of budget items that will now look like rounding error or "decimal dust"?"
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[29-Mar-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
2k+ words of no substance


[29-Mar-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
rip


[29-Mar-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
although I guess throwaway daily articles can't really _have_ too much substance by their nature.


[29-Mar-20 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
now the meat thing is interesting.


[29-Mar-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
raid immigrants for funzies then oh snap, suddenly nobody else would be willing to work and you'd easily get hunger riots country-wide xD


[29-Mar-20 02:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[29-Mar-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
> raid immigrants for funzies then oh snap, suddenly nobody else would be willing to work and you'd easily get hunger riots country-wide xD
@Opponent 

I don't think anyone is really serious about immigration policy in the US for that reason. It's more about control of the rate of immigration. At the end of the day the employer isn't punished for hiring illegals so it is at their discretion whether ICE comes or not and this handy detail means they can bust up any unionising attempt among the workers early and at no cost. So immigrant labor - and all labor really - gets to be kept low.


[29-Mar-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stock-market-crash-financial-crisis-coronavirus-bottom-not-in-rbc-2020-3

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Stocks are trading like they did early in the financial crisis — an...
Don't celebrate too early: the 2008 crisis shows why stocks may continue tumbling for a while longer.
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[29-Mar-20 03:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52081389?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e806b529103f706576cedb7%26%27Confusion%27%20over%20EU%20ventilator%20scheme%262020-03-29T10%3A08%3A02%2B00%3A00&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:d9761bac-85c5-402c-91d9-5c0184f21421&pinned_post_asset_id=5e806b529103f706576cedb7&pinned_post_type=share


[29-Mar-20 03:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"The UK Government missed the deadline to join an EU-wide scheme to get extra ventilators because of "communication confusion", according to Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove.

Earlier this week Downing Street said the UK had decided to pursue its own plan rather than joining the EU's procurement scheme, which will use the EU's buying power to purchase more stock.

But Downing Street later said that officials did not get emails inviting the UK to join. The EU has said the UK can still take part."


[29-Mar-20 03:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇬🇧 : We missed the deadline. guess we have to do our own thing.  🇪🇺 : What deadline?

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[29-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it feels like there's two groups of people


[29-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Opponent#3498
one pursuing brexit to the bitter end and one trying to save the nation


[29-Mar-20 03:10 PM] Opponent#3498
and they don't communicate often


[29-Mar-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
and hate each other.


[29-Mar-20 03:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[29-Mar-20 03:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Isn't this the day before yesterday?


[29-Mar-20 03:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[29-Mar-20 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
today is the 29th


[29-Mar-20 04:09 PM] Crow#5457
even though the market isn't open on saturdays and sundays, there's still trading going on that determines what happens to the stonks on monday


[29-Mar-20 04:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I just want to eyewit a big depression by myself, so I have something to tell my grandchildren as stories when I'm old


[29-Mar-20 04:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because my own life is too boring


[29-Mar-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/489951-gop-presses-for-swift-ratcliffe-confirmation-to-intel-post

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GOP presses for swift Ratcliffe confirmation to intel post
Republicans are moving quickly on Rep. John Ratcliffe’s (R-Texas) nomination to be director of national intelligence after a bungled rollout last year ended with Ratcliffe withdrawing from consideration.
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[29-Mar-20 05:01 PM] ononim#8141

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[29-Mar-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/490055-biden-on-quarantine-timelines-worst-thing-you-can-do-is-raise

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Biden on quarantine timelines: 'Worst thing you can do is raise exp...
Former Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that the worst thing the government could do is “raise false expectations” about the quarantine time periods.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/biden_joe_debate_2020_03_15_0.jpg


[29-Mar-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/490013-texas-ag-says-gun-stores-are-essential-can-remain-open-amid-pandemic

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Texas AG says gun stores are essential, should remain open amid pan...
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/paxtonken_091019gn2_lead.jpg


[29-Mar-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, shit, broken clock Biden


[29-Mar-20 06:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajjpdHYneM&lc=UgzMohsrltWntvLMpwV4AaABAg.95uKWyM7CeV95ulg-pvxlp

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The Comical Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajjpdHYneM
Soviet Superman Kills Comrade Stalin - Superman: Red Son HD
SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE
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[29-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Crow#5457
I found a dude claiming that stalin wasn't evil


[29-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Crow#5457
> Except he wasn't evil . Everything these jews say about Stalin are lies . Lenin let the Ashberg jews run banks in Russia and made them rich Stalin was undoing that . They got motivated hatred against him.


[29-Mar-20 06:32 PM] Crow#5457
and that it's just "jewish lies"


[29-Mar-20 06:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Sounds like a young russian


[29-Mar-20 06:39 PM] Opponent#3498
yep, ^ sounds accurate.


[29-Mar-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd think all these people that believe the jews are behind everything would just, like, convert


[29-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Cloudy#3004
ay


[29-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Cloudy#3004
red son supermand


[29-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Cloudy#3004
that movie was weird, lol


[29-Mar-20 06:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i know a guy who tells stalin and ussr were good its all american propaganda


[29-Mar-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
red son got animated?


[29-Mar-20 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, guess i;m addding that to my list


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Cloudy#3004
do u not see the clip


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Cloudy#3004
like
4 messages above


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw the clip


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Cloudy#3004
o okie


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] Cloudy#3004
its from the movie!


[29-Mar-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fucking loved that comic, i;ve been waitying for an aniamted version forever now


[29-Mar-20 06:53 PM] Cloudy#3004
just came out a few months ago


[29-Mar-20 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:twiexcited:


[29-Mar-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-who-is-dominic-raab-replace-boris-johnson-prime-minister-2020-3

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Who is Dominic Raab? The anti-feminist who could replace Boris John...
The news that Dominic Raab might soon become Britain's next prime minister was received like a "cup of cold sick" by some of his colleagues.
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[29-Mar-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
britain sure enjoys fucking itself over, eh?


[29-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no India to fuck over anymore


[29-Mar-20 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
the urge to do it is unbearable though


[29-Mar-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair, india is kind of fucking itself over right now


[29-Mar-20 06:58 PM] Opponent#3498
they've learned from the West well :3


[29-Mar-20 07:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They specifically learned from the brits and idolised them.


[29-Mar-20 07:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1243933308679004162

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Mollie (@MZHemingway)
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1243933308679004162
Kennedy Center Tells Musicians It Will Stop Paying Them Hours After $25 Million Bailout Is Signed https://t.co/9OgTfIv9uq
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[29-Mar-20 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
last I heard, india's hindu extremists are going nazi on the muslims


[29-Mar-20 07:41 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm surprised India has so few covid cases compared to US


[29-Mar-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that we know of anyway


[29-Mar-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
Indians cleverly realised that if they don't do any testing, they don't get any cases.


[29-Mar-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of like their approach to scientific publications


[29-Mar-20 08:04 PM] illumnious#7938
> Isn't this the day before yesterday?
@AlchemistLiang  no it’s today


[29-Mar-20 08:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1244324606409834496?s=21

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Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1244324606409834496?s=21
Joe Biden falsely claims he called for using the Defense Production Act “several weeks ago.”

President Trump invoked it 3/18, BEFORE Sleepy Joe mentioned it.

Trump has already used it 3 times to get medical professionals the equipment & PPE they need! 

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[29-Mar-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/HkKp2LU

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Make the most of your dash...
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[29-Mar-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/QuPxw0x

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Where is he now?
https://i.imgur.com/896u4HYh.jpg


[29-Mar-20 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/24/coronavirus-health-experts-look-at-when-will-life-return-to-normal.html?__source=instagram%7Cmain

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When will life return to normal? Health experts on a possible exit ...
An unprecedented response to a global health crisis has left many to wonder exactly when things might revert to normal.
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[29-Mar-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/J8Hu7zp.jpg

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[29-Mar-20 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get why this comment got downvoted so much <https://imgur.com/gallery/PcvH86F/comment/1830108455>


[29-Mar-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
> Uh he's a capitalist running the country like a business. That's why people elected him. He's prioritizing money cuz that's capitalism.


[29-Mar-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
can people just not handle the truth?


[29-Mar-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
the only thing I can think of is that people misconstrued the comment as being supportive of trump


[29-Mar-20 09:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's progress on the virus so far?


[29-Mar-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
The Line's still down.


[29-Mar-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
more sacrifice is required.


[29-Mar-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> We're at the stage of a Trump business where he'd declare bankruptcy and walk away from the whole mess.


[29-Mar-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-governor-says-us-government-sent-170-broken-ventilators-2020-3

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The Trump administration sent California 170 ventilators to help in...
Instead of "complaining," California Governor Gavin Newsom said "broken" ventilators were sent to a local company to be repaired.
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[29-Mar-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> We're at the stage of a Trump business where he'd declare bankruptcy and walk away from the whole mess.
then he gets bailed out by rich parents and starts over


[29-Mar-20 10:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
What parents :twismug:

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[29-Mar-20 10:18 PM] ononim#8141
https://asranarshism.com/1399/01/09/uprising-in-the-iranian-prisons/
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/03/28/Over-80-inmates-escape-prison-in-Iran-s-Kurdistan-after-riots-over-coronavirus.html

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مدیرسایت
https://asranarshism.com/1399/01/09/uprising-in-the-iranian-prisons/
UPRISING IN THE IRANIAN PRISONS - عصرآنارشیسم
شورش در زندان های ایران on March 26, 2020 [yesterday], after the protests by hunger strike of the prisoners in some Iranian prisons, due to the poor prison conditions and the spread
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Over 80 inmates escape prison in Iran’s Kurdistan after riots over ...
Over 80 prisoners escaped from a prison in Iran’s Kurdistan province on Friday following riots amid
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[29-Mar-20 10:18 PM] ononim#8141
Riots in Iranian prions


[29-Mar-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean Iran kinda "forgave" US about the missile launches, or are they focusing on other problems atm


[29-Mar-20 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
afaik they're not retarded


[29-Mar-20 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
so the later


[29-Mar-20 10:21 PM] ononim#8141
and like


[29-Mar-20 10:22 PM] ononim#8141
what can they do to US really, esp in this situation


[29-Mar-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.wbur.org/news/2020/03/28/mashpee-wampanoag-reservation-secretary-interior-land-trust

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Secretary Of Interior Orders Mashpee Wampanoag Reservation 'Disesta...
The Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe's reservation will be disestablished and their land taken out of trust, per an order from the secretary of the interior.
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[29-Mar-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ugh


[29-Mar-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
so essentially what this is is


[29-Mar-20 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
> The House was originally supposed to vote on the bill in early May 2019, until a critical tweet by President Trump led its sponsors to pull it from the House floor. The bill eventually passed with a vote of 275-146. Almost all Democrats voted for it, and most Republicans voted against it.


[29-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
in 1934 Congress decided to allow indian lands to go into a trust by the federal gov't


[29-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
allowing for more autonomy, establishing casinos etc.


[29-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
buuuut


[29-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
they said "*now* federally recognized"


[29-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in in 1934


[29-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning that many tribes ignored for years don't get this option just because they they were ignored previously.


[29-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is not how sane law works.


[29-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just like the stupid fukking Amish SSN exclusion.


[29-Mar-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not allowing any new entities ever.


[29-Mar-20 10:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavirus-outbreak-german-minister-thomas-schaefer-kills-self-being-worried-about-coronavirus-econ-2202639

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German State Finance Minister Kills Himself As Coronavirus Hits Eco...
Thomas Schaefer, the finance minister of Germany's Hesse state, has committed suicide apparently after becoming "deeply worried" over how to cope with the economic fallout from the coronavirus, state premier Volker Bouffier said on Sunday.
https://c.ndtvimg.com/2020-03/b7u8suls_thomas-schaefer-twitter_625x300_29_March_20.jpg


[29-Mar-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just want to can any attempts to rectify this utter bullshit.


[29-Mar-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
> Amish SSN exclusion
let me guess. they allowed it because they're white "christians"


[29-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no some rich shit in control of Frankfurt's local shit killed himself.


[29-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
How terribly sad.


[29-Mar-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They allowed it because otherwise the Amish would push PA and other states to oppose it more.


[29-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they said FINE WE WILL EXCLUDE YOU BUT ONLY EVER YOU


[29-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to be part of a religion established prior to the bill passing that employs its own to be excluded.


[29-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, Amish.


[29-Mar-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
So any like, copycat of the Amish has to giv SSNs to its people.


[29-Mar-20 10:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/queen/concern-for-the-queen-grows-as-her-senior-footman-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-139863/

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Charlie Proctor
https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/queen/concern-for-the-queen-grows-as-her-senior-footman-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-139863/
Concern for The Queen grows as her senior footman tests positive fo...
Fresh fears have been raised over The Queen’s health after one of her senior footman tested positive for coronavirus. The unnamed aide is believed to have had close contact with Her Majesty a…
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[29-Mar-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Can she die yet


[29-Mar-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
pls kill all the old royals


[29-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Boris


[29-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
cause complete chaos so there's no chance for whoever gets the crown to be some shit that'll play ball with the Tories.


[29-Mar-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-government-reportedly-furious-with-china-2020-3

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Boris Johnson's government is reportedly furious with China and bel...
UK government sources quoted on Sunday say China faces a "reckoning" over its handling of the coronavirus crisis.
https://i.insider.com/5e8052a90c2a6266b321e464?width=1200&format=jpeg


[29-Mar-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
It only matters to him because he has it


[29-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```what can they do to US really, esp in this situation```


[29-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
endorse #KAGA2020 :wheeze:


[29-Mar-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is the uk gonna do? blow on china with a soft breeze?


[29-Mar-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/490085-trump-issues-major-disaster-declaration-for-dc-over-coronavirus

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Trump issues major disaster declaration for DC over coronavirus
President Trump on Sunday issued a major disaster declaration for Washington, D.C., as the coronavirus pandemic continues to spread in the city and the country.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_dc_032520getty.jpg


[29-Mar-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but not in places where things are going wrong because the governors are meanie pants


[29-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump doesn't live in those parts


[29-Mar-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/JKF3TZv.png Ben wants those feet pics

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[29-Mar-20 11:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
guess he's decided he really does live in florida now, not nyc


[29-Mar-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[29-Mar-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh boy, another Trump press conference


[29-Mar-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy! how will trump fuck up this time?


[29-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's started implying hospitals are lying about the number of masks etc. they actually need


[29-Mar-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:derpchrys:


[29-Mar-20 11:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[29-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"How do they need so many masks? Are they going out the back door? Journalists should look into that, should look into New York"


[29-Mar-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
mhmm


[29-Mar-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why do people need pandemic supplies in a pandemic? it;s not liek we;re in a pandemic or soemthing!

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[29-Mar-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every person that talks on the podium is required to praise Trump before speaking


[30-Mar-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
persobnally i;d rATHER PUNCH trump and get shot by the secret service


[30-Mar-20 12:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seriously, I'd bet good money they're all briefed "Remember to thank Trump for his leadership before saying anything!"


[30-Mar-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's pretty comical but hyper sad


[30-Mar-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like watching a parody of a dictatorship


[30-Mar-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's pre-blaming states and democrats if there are delays in unemployment cheques


[30-Mar-20 12:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We didn't know there were that many countries, 150 countries... that's something!"


[30-Mar-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[30-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Nothing would be worse than declaring victory before the victory is won"


[30-Mar-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He says two weeks after declaring the number of cases would be 0 in a couple of days


[30-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, Trump's base are *really* mad about the state of emergency or whatever it's called being extended to April 30


[30-Mar-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they **really** hate Fauci


[30-Mar-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course they do


[30-Mar-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And there's OANN with the dickslurping question


[30-Mar-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he breaks their illusion of false safety


[30-Mar-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Why are you so popular and why does the mainstream media hate you so much?" "Wow, that's a beautiful question"


[30-Mar-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Do you mind if i literally get up on stage and suck your asshole like a gogurt tube?"


[30-Mar-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comedy country


[30-Mar-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"What about people that need to pay rent?" "I'm sure landlords will be understanding, a lot of great things are happening"


[30-Mar-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we switched from the idiocracy timeline to the comedy central timeline...


[30-Mar-20 12:31 AM] jlun2#8758
> I'm sure landlords will be understanding
my mom was having an argument about rent like last week so no lol


[30-Mar-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm glad we dont have a landlord


[30-Mar-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately i;m sure tomorrow my teacher and his favorite student will be singing trump's praises

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[30-Mar-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay for the glorious invention of headphones

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[30-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder Fox gets more views than CNN or MSNBC or the like


[30-Mar-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Fox_ is actually the mainstream news source.

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[30-Mar-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe i shoudl stay home until my re-usable facemask comes in, i wouldnt want to catch the stupid while i;m also at risk of catching covid-19


[30-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/490091-liberty-university-students-report-symptoms-that-suggest-coronavirus

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Liberty University students report symptoms that suggest coronaviru...
Around a dozen students at Virginia's Liberty University have reported symptoms that suggest possible infections of coronavirus even as the school's president has defied calls to send students home.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/falwelljerryjr_120515getty.jpg


[30-Mar-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lawsuit time!


[30-Mar-20 12:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
School's president is clearly knee-deep in Tencent money


[30-Mar-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To think his dad was best friends with the guy who founded Hustler.


[30-Mar-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile all of north carolina;s colleges seem to have the bright idea of keeping the colleges open so the few graduates in pandemic relevent classes can graduate their field, meanwhile i cant just drop the class because it was convoluted as fuck even just gettign this class so i could sub 4 fucking credit hours which means i;m along for the ride if anyone comes in sick despite me not graduating a pandemic relevent program

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[30-Mar-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this a medical school or something?


[30-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a goddamned community college


[30-Mar-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with some medical courses


[30-Mar-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not even in the medical program, i was in the hvac program and now i;m subbing in an electric class with no certifications as a reward


[30-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/535580879385395213/693948725789327400/IMG_20200329_162414.jpg

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[30-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoVtHLxNVlU

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KamTacos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoVtHLxNVlU
Country Roads in Minor Key
when you can't go to west virginia
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[30-Mar-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Theme for that tweet


[30-Mar-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik he's timing these to coincide with the most local news broadcasts


[30-Mar-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So he gets guaranteed captive viewers AND supresses the actual news


[30-Mar-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Networks should just start refusing to broadcast his shit.


[30-Mar-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You realize that whether he loses this year or not he'll launch a TV network, right?


[30-Mar-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
OANN will probably just let him "buy" them


[30-Mar-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't buy something if you're imprisoned or dead.


[30-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just wonder if there will be a candidate in the near future who uses the typical rural/urban divide speech during an election but in inverse


[30-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least points out that the people saying "coastal elite" are in fact coastal elites themselves, they just pander to flyovers for money


[30-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just be like WE WON'T BE BEHOLDEN TO A FEW FARMERS IN KANSAS


[30-Mar-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When was the last time you think Glenn Beck spent a night in a town of under 10,000 people?


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
key to making statements most Americans will agree with


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
phrase it as freedom


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the actual divide isn't NYC and the boonies of Appalachia


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's NYC and like, Akron.


[30-Mar-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is getting fairly easy now with the rural issue.


[30-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even among red states, there are often huge liberal areas.


[30-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue islands


[30-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blue mountains.


[30-Mar-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them of the oppression of the red wastes.


[30-Mar-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most states have people in the blue mountains that try but you can only do so much.


[30-Mar-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Another OANN question that's just a "Main stream media are lame, why are you so amazing Mr President?"


[30-Mar-20 01:01 AM] jlun2#8758
> Can't buy something if you're imprisoned or dead.
Trump is probably going to live to his 90s, without ever getting to jail, because karma is a video game mechanic.


[30-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490093-trump-gets-in-back-and-forth-with-reporter-during-coronavirus

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Trump clashes with reporter during coronavirus briefing: 'Be nice'
President Trump clashed with a reporter on Sunday during a press briefing on the coronavirus outbreak in the Rose Garden.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump_rosegarden.jpg


[30-Mar-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Waiting for someone to just straight up swear at him, would be funny.


[30-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reporters are trained not to.


[30-Mar-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he might swear at them.


[30-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want to see a journalist attempt to run for president.


[30-Mar-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both for humor (bad ones) and what they could do for the relationship between White House and media (good ones)


[30-Mar-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
In a strange twist, they then don't stop covering the presidency and continue writing for their beltway paper as a part-time editor, referring to themselves in the third person critically to be cheeky.


[30-Mar-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
"What Rod Dreher Could Do Better" by Rod Dreher


[30-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, they cover every single one of their sexual exploits.


[30-Mar-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make a few up too


[30-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But portray it as a tell all piece by someone who slept with the First Lady


[30-Mar-20 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
"The night I had a consensual sexual episode with a woman not on my staff"


[30-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBUDyntqcUY

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Vocal Synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBUDyntqcUY
JFK reads the Navy Seals Copypasta (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of John F. Kennedy. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zBUDyntqcUY/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Mar-20 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Has The President Gone Too Far In Sharing Sick Memes? - Insiders Say No." By: The President


[30-Mar-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tomorrow we'll surpass the deaths of 9/11

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[30-Mar-20 01:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking everytime he swears it sounds really fake


[30-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking now consider that we aren't showing signs of it slowing down yet


[30-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it doubles every 2-3 days.


[30-Mar-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meaning 1 9/11 tomorrow, 2 9/11s Thursday, 4 9/11s this time next week.


[30-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
2^10 is about a thousand btw.


[30-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you thought NYC was bad, wait until it hits towns of 10k people where the nearest *actual* hospital is two towns over


[30-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You giv it a month of no slowdown, it does 1000 9/11s.


[30-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
1000 9/11s in a month.


[30-Mar-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's more than one 9/11 an hour.


[30-Mar-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nearing a centihitler


[30-Mar-20 02:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1244409814064775169?s=21

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[30-Mar-20 02:11 AM] illumnious#7938
> But he might swear at them.
@Nebbie  that would be Hilarious


[30-Mar-20 02:12 AM] jlun2#8758
>  towns of 10k people where the nearest actual hospital is two towns over
the number would probably slow down due to lack of testing those people


[30-Mar-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just say it's all "pneumonia" etc., that's the Russian way.


[30-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-coronavirus-isnt-just-a-blue-state-problem/

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The Coronavirus Isn’t Just A Blue State Problem
Detected cases are higher in blue states, but growing faster in red states.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/CORONA-STATES-16x9-1.png?w=575


[30-Mar-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, it hit blue states first, which do more testing, but it spreads faster in red states.


[30-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So we've got kind of a perfect storm where Republicans were like NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT JUST LIBERALS DYING and now they're gonna get it much worse.


[30-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would not be surprising if this is what really kills McConnell's reelection chances etc.


[30-Mar-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people that'd vote him dead in droves


[30-Mar-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
meanwhile ads pointing out he made things worse.


[30-Mar-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, i should perhaps stay home tomorrow


[30-Mar-20 02:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The highway to Hubei had a traffic jam yesterday after the traffic restriction lifted

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[30-Mar-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jam


[30-Mar-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
One person spreads the virus bakk to China from the US, and they'll easily get another wave...


[30-Mar-20 02:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the number of new cases per day has reached the top yesterday


[30-Mar-20 02:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[30-Mar-20 02:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least it has been going down for the first time


[30-Mar-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490089-trump-says-social-distancing-guidelines-to-continue-through-end-of

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Trump shifts, says distancing to go to April 30
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trump_rosegarden.jpg


[30-Mar-20 02:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump: Nobody knows shifting better than me!


[30-Mar-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dems don't even need to promote Biden for the elections, just need to spam supercuts of Trump


[30-Mar-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Orange man bad, Orange chicken good


[30-Mar-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-29/oil-plummets-to-17-year-low-as-virus-threatens-demand-slump?srnd=premium-europe


[30-Mar-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
WTI is at $20.61


[30-Mar-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
nuts


[30-Mar-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
haha oil pump go blonk blonk


[30-Mar-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUUUrpQX0AAS-4N.jpg:orig

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[30-Mar-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Mar-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"haha obama man say funny"


[30-Mar-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie that one's for you :p


[30-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's utterly amazing how rape allegations went from "shut down the campaign" to "not an issue" for presidential candidates.


[30-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
While at the same time they went from "not an issue" for normal celebrities to "shut down the studio".


[30-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It hasn't shut down getting a lifetime appointment, why should it shut down being president?


[30-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of reflects how things go with the rich and the middle class to begin with tho.


[30-Mar-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[30-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People who think "my son could be accused" are more powerful than "my daughter could be raped"


[30-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the moment society declares X to be a banishable offense, most people below the line of being rich get shafted for it.


[30-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those above the line react aggressively to say that any accusation of X is by someone of disrepute.


[30-Mar-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
We then examine their social credibility they got from having money and go "yep seems about right".


[30-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't like people who accuse men of rape.


[30-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they also don't like people who have proof/demand rape kits get tested


[30-Mar-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a fucking society.


[30-Mar-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"What, why would he ever rape someone, he's rich and powerful and handsome!"


[30-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
hrnn


[30-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh that's not incorrect. Everyone has a price.


[30-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly, I'm amazed Nintendo has a character named "Harvey" have a secret island where you can take pictures of people you want


[30-Mar-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
in 99% cases the price is measured in $$


[30-Mar-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rich, powerful, and attractive are the most likely to be rapists because they think they deserve it, are owed it, they want it


[30-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And when it happens, people downplay it


[30-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
spend some dosh and be clean or don't and have dirt thrown at you down the line. Ehh, seems illogical.


[30-Mar-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
but I guess that's people for you


[30-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, it couldn't have been that bad, he's good looking after all" "She probably wanted it really" "But his smile, he looks so friendly!"


[30-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, Bloomberg's presidential campaign got fucked up the first time someone asked him about NDAs he made women sign because sexual harassment


[30-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So idk


[30-Mar-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"He has such a great career ahead of him, I'm sure he wouldn't have done something so reckless"


[30-Mar-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"He's from a good family with good money and these harpies just want to take him down and bleed him dry" "All these loser sluts just hate successful hard working men and want to take them down"


[30-Mar-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only because it was on live TV, Its.


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Warren ain't gonna say jack shit about Biden


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do that off-air and it won't do shit.


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
and I mean, it's not without merit. Far from every rape allegation is even remotely legit.


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's now become Our Guy


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the people that actually matter are the TV-watching senile Boomers.


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They vote religiously and hav shittons of accumulated money.


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those people disbelieve every single woman


[30-Mar-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They would make excuses for their own son


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Warren needed to be so aggressive.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Warren put him in a corner on live TV and he acted like he was guilty.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what the senile Boomers dislike.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they dislike can still affect how they think.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing to realize.


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Innocent until proven guilty" means that we can never, ever have any discussion about sexual assault ever


[30-Mar-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They dislike it BECAUSE it makes them think.


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dislike is a defense mechanism of their feebling minds.


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
rape has become a matter of the court of public opinion because the legal system has refused to take it seriously, @Opponent


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alan "I kept my underwear on at Epstein's place as people gave me massages" Dershowitz is how people think.


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can force Boomers to sit down and watch


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
fixing the legal system would be a good step


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they will realize what's going on


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what Warren did.


[30-Mar-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Bloomberg got screwed.


[30-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
there was a good reason legal system stopped taking it seriously.


[30-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
people abused it.


[30-Mar-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
no, there wasn't


[30-Mar-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are honorbound to watch a candidate debate live.


[30-Mar-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the legal system never took it seriously because it's run by a bunch of old white guys


[30-Mar-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
From the prosecutor and DA to the judges to the cops


[30-Mar-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
They don't care about rapes


[30-Mar-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
there was never a point where rape accusations were taken more seriously than they are now


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
False.


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Be a white woman and accuse a black man of raping you in the South in 1930.


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
that's an exceptional circumstance


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I guess. Call out rape on social media, get instant publicity and the one you point your finger at gets and instant hit.


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, that's just an excuse for a good old fashion lynching


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same deal as guns.


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
50s guy raping his wife in the living room? no problem here, move along


[30-Mar-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not an issue when white guys do it.


[30-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Huge issue when blakk guys do it.


[30-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk woman got raped by a white guy? Ignored.


[30-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
White woman got raped by a blakk guy? Executed.


[30-Mar-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
White woman got raped by her daddy, but blamed it on a blakk guy that witnessed it? Also executed (this is the plot of To Kill a Mockingbird).


[30-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SPOILERS


[30-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, one of the reasons that people are fighting against any marriage under 18


[30-Mar-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
if you haven't read TKAM you deserve to be spoiled


[30-Mar-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't statutory rape in several states if you're married


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm pretty sure that's always true for married couples in every state


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Age of consent laws weren't meant to protect children.


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
states just have different cutoffs


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were meant to protect their rich parents.


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
From having their girl married to a poor guy.


[30-Mar-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally the entire system was built to entrench social classes.


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the legal system doesn't work correctly.


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was never meant to.


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now it's being slowly reformed and conservatives are fighting that tooth and nail.


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was always meant to protect business


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people who founded our system didn't think it would work with equality


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It started in the 50s with SCOTUS being a bit too logical and respectable and just plain going "actually segregation is a violation of basic rights"


[30-Mar-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People _had_ to be poor.


[30-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are ill-prepared to face conservatives.


[30-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives shield rapists of high class, liberals try to light a fire under them.


[30-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You get things like cancel culture.


[30-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh look how bad your kind is!"


[30-Mar-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives tho know how to play that game.


[30-Mar-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They shield their own and let liberals burn each other.


[30-Mar-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lily Peet-tier liberals play directly into the hands of conservatives, yes.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good-meaning liberals burn each other.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in glass houses often throw stones.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives agree to not burn each other.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And shield each other from liberals.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberalism is poorly-equipped to deal with conservatives.


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this the whole "Conservative on CNN will be treated seriously no matter what crazy shit they say but any liberal on it going outside what is deemed acceptable will be gaslit and concern trolled" thing?


[30-Mar-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that liberals believe conservatives.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They give them the time of day.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that liberals don't hav a tool to easily stop them.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't give other liberals the time of day or benefit of the doubt


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals often don't understand the conservative game.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberals give their opponents what they won't give to their allies.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor how to spare outrage for only the worst shit.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  so conservatives will be here forever?


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not it.


[30-Mar-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a misallocation.


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 liberals and 2 conservatives each hav a gun with a bullet, imagine.


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
One liberal grabs a titty.


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservatives rape a little boy.


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The remaining guy has a choice of who to shoot.


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservatives say "we'll shoot back"


[30-Mar-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
he shoots the other liberal.


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservatives then shoot him simultaneously.


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Civility without government"


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
Will that ever change @Nebbie


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals often allocate their outrage based on the bakklash it will receive.


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
or are they always like that


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
forever


[30-Mar-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of the scale of what it's facing.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
so essentially they share kinship, and liberals do not.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
fun


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals believe in principles of actual righteousness.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats are fundamentally a coalition-based party, GOP is not.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe in principles of togetherness.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals do share kinship


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they share it by being accepting


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, until someone steps out of line even a little bit.


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you split the Democrats you'd get a major center party and a major left wing demsoc party


[30-Mar-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives share it by being exclusionary


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that liberals exclude rapidly


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
you're allowed to do anything you want unless it's something we don't want you to do.


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that they will often take out the weakest members.


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And ones who don't matter.


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of going after the biggest problems.


[30-Mar-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals go after the low-hanging fruit.


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives meanwhile climb high.


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And try to separate themselves from the rest of the tree.


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
a better survival strategy.


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
ironic.


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
To again refer to the Obama abortion pill thing


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
the FDA said it was safe for kids to take on their own over the counter


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the Obama administration said no


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] jlun2#8758
How did conservatives ever manage to lose anything @Nebbie


[30-Mar-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
to avoid conservative rage


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is about avoiding conservative rage.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why liberals often fail.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't have everything to begin with


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
they got greedy @jlun2


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
too greedy, that is.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hear "we'll protest you" and say "okay then we won't do it"


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are terrorists


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
take the meat and throw the dog a bone, the dog will be loyal to the end.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservative economic policy also does not work in the long-term.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals negotiate with terrorists.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that affects a lot


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
deny the bone, the dog might bite you.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are protestors


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
that's how they lost.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives don't negotiate with protestors.


[30-Mar-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives aren't loyal when given bones.


[30-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't stop.


[30-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire game plan is to always threaten.


[30-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals then always bakk off.


[30-Mar-20 03:52 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie do you want to make a blog about this


[30-Mar-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[30-Mar-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
this channel is his blog


[30-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
essentially, yes.


[30-Mar-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
the nebbie chamber


[30-Mar-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it's more fun this way, too. Interactive.


[30-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative economic policy isn't supposed to work long-term, Its.


[30-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's supposed to work while they're in power and not while liberals are.


[30-Mar-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just another cudgel.


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's pretty dumb.


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
do you think liberals will always be like that; destined to be gamed by conservatives forever?


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It ensures you're not going to be in power for more than 8 years at once.


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a concession.


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But by then you've picked 200 judges and half the Supreme Court so lol


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they didn't do it, they might only get 4 years and then never be in office again.


[30-Mar-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to make the most of the moment to screw over liberals.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plant bombs for when the enemy wins.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Win big again later and absolutely destroy them.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] jlun2#8758
so no hope I guess?


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives' whole gameplan is based around fighting liberals.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why they so often win.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals' gameplan isn't to fight. It's to improve society.


[30-Mar-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why they so often lose.


[30-Mar-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you could make liberals both be good at fighting conservatives and improving society, conservatives would be screwed.


[30-Mar-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just fundamentally not how they operate


[30-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, if you've got some massive game theory idea on it Its, sure, go write a book.


[30-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
For now tho.


[30-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberal ideology has no idea how to deal with people who aren't genuine and are literally just evil.


[30-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fighting conservatives involves fighting dirty, which for liberals doesn't work.


[30-Mar-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not been their MO.


[30-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
and the ones who would be able to do so would simply replace them.


[30-Mar-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't necessarily need to fight dirty.


[30-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you need to fight differently.


[30-Mar-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bringing conservatives to ivory debate halls does nothing but giv them a voice.


[30-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So let them complain they're not being given a stage?


[30-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[30-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The key advantage liberals always hav is that they are cleaner under the spotlight.


[30-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What liberals need to be able to do is to just dig up dirt on conservatives and air it.


[30-Mar-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
While not letting conservatives speak.


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
AND while not listening to their threats.


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> While not letting conservatives speak.
why is that action so hard for some reason, yet cancel culture is a thing


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then conservatives say that they're being denied a voice and some people go "hmm that sounds bad"


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some people can do that.


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
but fundamentally


[30-Mar-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
it hurts less to silence them.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The major failing of liberal ideology is it believes that some people going "hmm that sounds bad" is actually a problem.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not buy freeze peaches.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
I don't think the tech giants is able to accept that fact atm


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tech giants aren't liberal.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tech giants are rich fukks who want to pretend to be liberal.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
i know, but they keep arguing about "free speech" and never ban ppl


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way both sides don't oppose them.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, they're trying to play both sides.


[30-Mar-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
```Some people can do that.
but fundamentally
it hurts less to silence them.```
'Any newspaper that doesn't accept party line is fake news and will be forbidden'.


[30-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
we've been there :3


[30-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Espousing liberal values while being rich shits that screw over minorities.


[30-Mar-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
they probably thought the same way.


[30-Mar-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
the primary US issue, from what little I've seen of it on this channel and otherwise, is primarily economical, coming from 'ever rising profits' philosophy reaching its hard limits. You can only exploit your workers that much harder till they drop dead, and can only raise healthcare prices so high before an epidemic crushes you.


[30-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
this is, suprisingly, not whites vs blacks or LGBT vs straight or christian vs atheist or whatever typical liberal vs conservative divisions would be.


[30-Mar-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
it might be once maybe, keep the blacks poor and shit, but now it's a common problem


[30-Mar-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
ikr? sometimes going to a different community feels like an alt universe where econ is in the background and ppl debate about toilets


[30-Mar-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
or about god


[30-Mar-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
that _is_ a problem, but there's no way it's the primary problem or even the only significant one


[30-Mar-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
after all, just go to a poor white conservative neighborhood and see what they think of black people there


[30-Mar-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the practical problem. The one that matters in the here and now, and tommorow too when it gets worse.


[30-Mar-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's also a problem that at least _purely theoretically_ could be fixed from up top. In a reasonable timescale.


[30-Mar-20 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
trying to fix society on a timetable requires force. Mass executions kind of force. Nebbie here would be willing to hold the guns he otherwise hates so much and do it personally, sure, but that's not what most people want, and what the world wants from US.


[30-Mar-20 04:17 AM] Opponent#3498
forgoing that though, yeah, poor whites will, quite possibly, hate blacks forever.


[30-Mar-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
the newer poor whites would just hate blacks even more


[30-Mar-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
but if they'd be well-fed and not scraping by, day by day, looking for something to allieviate misery, hatred might turn into dislike. And dislike into ambivalence. And then one day the question would be 'what was that all about anyway?'


[30-Mar-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
or maybe not, who knows.


[30-Mar-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
but they'd be much more passive about it and so much less of a practical issue.


[30-Mar-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> what was that all about anyway?
I ask the same thing for things like why do europeans hate each other


[30-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Opponent#3498
eternal war, more or less.


[30-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Opponent#3498
or, wars.


[30-Mar-20 04:22 AM] Opponent#3498
over national identity, and before that religion, and before that noble politics, and before that, fuck, for shit and giggles sometimes it feels like


[30-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Opponent#3498
with the world being what it is now, NBC and all, it slowly heals.


[30-Mar-20 04:23 AM] Opponent#3498
_slllllllllooooooowly_.


[30-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
then something like Russian invasion happens and the effect gets reversed fast.


[30-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
and even then, now more and more people understand that it's a very different thing to hate a government and people of said nation.


[30-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
the world gets closer.


[30-Mar-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it helps.


[30-Mar-20 04:44 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] btw here's a story, happened to a guy I know


[30-Mar-20 04:46 AM] Opponent#3498
Russia declared... not quite quarantine in Moscow but basicly that, a mandated weekly holiday, from this monday. For monetary reasons they don't call it quarantine as by law (roflmao russian law, but bear with) the government has to pay up a lot for the expenses incurred by such a measure.


[30-Mar-20 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
anyway, this guy works in a medium-ish (50ish people) firm, riding a desk (never asked what he does, didn't really care). He heard Putin adress the nation on TV with this message, then next day asked his boss about what would it mean for them.


[30-Mar-20 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
the response was, directly quoting, 'If your president is gonna pay you salary, you can fucking stay home'.


[30-Mar-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
this attitude is what I meant as being _the_ problem. Profit matters, and everything else can fuck right off.


[30-Mar-20 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
same in US, same in Russia, same in some other places. In crisis, China solves it by 'do X or we shoot you'. Russia... also might, eventually, if they get scared enough.


[30-Mar-20 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and US will obsess over stock market as it's population dies out. Because fuck everything, profit matters.


[30-Mar-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
when I hear 'neolibs', this is what I think of. This philosophy has no future and will destroy any nation that embraces it.


[30-Mar-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
or reduce it's people to less than humans.


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I will only watch Governor Cuomo from now on to get information on #COVID19

Join me & #BoycottTrumpPressConferences 
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[30-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all a part of pushing Cuomo to be the nominee.


[30-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
yup


[30-Mar-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could work, could be 1968.


[30-Mar-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can have Cuomo presented as a wartime governor denied what he needed by the current president.


[30-Mar-20 05:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/morethanmySLE/status/1244413346595639304?s=20

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Trump: How do you go from 10K to 300K masks? You are ALL reporters you should look into it.

ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME?

It is called a PANDEMIC. WE ARE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF MASKS!

#COVID19

Join me & #BoycottTrumpPressConferences 😡

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[30-Mar-20 05:59 AM] illumnious#7938
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This is the clip @Yamiche was asking about. It did actually happen despite what Trump has said. Do all networks really need to cover his lies live everyday?  #BoycottTrumpPressConferences https://t.co/Dg4UHOqrEj
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[30-Mar-20 05:59 AM] illumnious#7938
welcome to hell bitch


[30-Mar-20 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow just by saying "$1200" instead of 7.25 x 40hr a week x 4 rounded up obscures the fact it was from min wage for me. probably a problem for others too


[30-Mar-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Mar-20 06:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent 
> when I hear 'neolibs', this is what I think of. This philosophy has no future and will destroy any nation that embraces it.
is it possible to even get out of such a mindset after embracing it outside revolutions?


[30-Mar-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't know.


[30-Mar-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
revolution in US scares me due to how much the world relies on $


[30-Mar-20 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
I love that our economy is the strongest and best it's ever been and a bit more lethal than the flu illness causes it to collapse


[30-Mar-20 06:11 AM] Honahue#0656
really is a house of cards


[30-Mar-20 06:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/825d262b-81c6-360e-a698-a912f3e5bfa5/asian-markets-extend-losses.html?.tsrc=applewf

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Asian markets extend losses as toll from pandemic surges
Asian shares started the week with fresh losses as countries reported surging numbers of infections from the coronavirus that has prompted shutdowns of travel and business in many parts of the world.
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[30-Mar-20 06:33 AM] illumnious#7938
oof


[30-Mar-20 06:33 AM] illumnious#7938
story redirects to this site https://www.marketwatch.com/story/asian-markets-extend-losses-as-toll-from-pandemic-surges-2020-03-29?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

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Asian shares started the week with fresh losses as countries reported surging numbers of infections from the coronavirus that has prompted shutdowns of...
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[30-Mar-20 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Mar-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Xi.


[30-Mar-20 08:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can't wait to see the stocks of Monday


[30-Mar-20 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Mar-20 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
I think the only this making this shit even slightly okay is, these bailouts prop up, more or less, a closed system. Money stay there, for the most part they aren't intended to be spent on anything outside of stock market


[30-Mar-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay from what perspective?


[30-Mar-20 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
okay from 'this isn't the end yet'


[30-Mar-20 08:38 AM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, the End.


[30-Mar-20 08:39 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't Weimar Germany printing money. It's _slightly_ better.


[30-Mar-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're not understanding what inflation is.


[30-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inflation in its natural state arises *because* of the activity of businesses.


[30-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses seek to increase their money, things are sold at higher values than they are made.


[30-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, loans are repaid at more than they are taken out for.


[30-Mar-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
As money goes around, these processes mean that it can only increase.


[30-Mar-20 08:41 AM] Opponent#3498
in a sedate, controlled manner usually.


[30-Mar-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money going around faster generally means the economy is doing better.


[30-Mar-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why high inflation is usually considered good.


[30-Mar-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hyperinflation occurs when the velocity of money is absolutely out of control, people can't keep up to maintain their daily activities.


[30-Mar-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, you want to pump in money at the bottom.


[30-Mar-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because money you pump in at the bottom will get spent and go upwards anyways.


[30-Mar-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you pump in money at the top, it will instead lead to lots of circulating up top among loans between businesses and such.


[30-Mar-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's problematic because you're creating extra inflation without that inflation touching the people actually trying to afford rent and such.


[30-Mar-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Inflation works alright when it's happening in a large part at the ground level so people can keep up with it.


[30-Mar-20 08:43 AM] jlun2#8758
> pump in money at the bottom
I don't see that happening in my life time


[30-Mar-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is extremely dangerous to be creating extra inflation at the top.


[30-Mar-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can lead to those on the bottom engaging in destructive behavior as if hyperinflation is already happening, which can then make it happen.


[30-Mar-20 08:44 AM] jlun2#8758
so US economy crash when


[30-Mar-20 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
what determines the value of money on the ground level?


[30-Mar-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The prices of food and housing.


[30-Mar-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note about those


[30-Mar-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an epidemic, food prices go up


[30-Mar-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
but housing prices go down


[30-Mar-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lot of this money is meant to keep real estate afloat


[30-Mar-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If real estate is just getting money from the gov't, it can make housing prices stay high.


[30-Mar-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is prices in general go up rapidly.


[30-Mar-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the slightly bright side, there's a provision that says Trump's businesses can't see a dime of that $500 billion slush fund.


[30-Mar-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he owns a lot of real estate.


[30-Mar-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's still a problem even with such a major player removed.


[30-Mar-20 08:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> there's a provision that says Trump's businesses can't see a dime of that $500 billion slush fund
I'm sure he'll find a way


[30-Mar-20 08:50 AM] Opponent#3498
well, Trump's fate concerns me significantly less than $ value on the international market. Problem is, I've just about given up trying to understand how currency values, economies and politics interact on that scale even on the most basic level.


[30-Mar-20 08:51 AM] jlun2#8758
people believe USD is valuable forever so it's valuable forever .


[30-Mar-20 08:51 AM] jlun2#8758
power of thought :bigbrain:


[30-Mar-20 08:51 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's...


[30-Mar-20 08:51 AM] Opponent#3498
too nonsensical to believe yet apparently absolutely correct


[30-Mar-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize here is that they've changed things from little net effect on prices, to prices going up, despite a recession.


[30-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Opponent#3498
'they'?


[30-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is going to hollow out what little savings people had.


[30-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress.


[30-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[30-Mar-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
When people can't save at all and are in a panic, that's problematic.


[30-Mar-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If things get very slightly worse it could lead to hyperinflation.


[30-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[30-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Opponent#3498
in the past this was countered, more or less, by revolution and/or currency reissue. Both highly not ideal.


[30-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
printing money to random people can tolerate a lot


[30-Mar-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
things like food stamps hav a hugely positive ROI


[30-Mar-20 08:54 AM] jlun2#8758
> things like food stamps
I dont see that happening in this current political environment


[30-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in, even if you aren't really getting the money from somewhere, the effect of making people spend makes money end up in the gov't


[30-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The economy is DRIVEN by consumers spending.


[30-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a really bad idea to directly put money in the businesses that normally are fueled by spending.


[30-Mar-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of putting money in the consumers for them to spend with.


[30-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, for many businesses that's not possible in current conditions.


[30-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is just that Congress has made the money pool way too unrestricted.


[30-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of it will go to businesses that normally are reliant on people buying stuff for basic needs.


[30-Mar-20 08:56 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just surprised that no matter what people like you said, this system somehow "works" in the sense it hasn't completely collapsed yet.


[30-Mar-20 08:57 AM] jlun2#8758
||just like my code||


[30-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a tolerant system.


[30-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a certain amount of inflation to trigger hyperinflation's problems.


[30-Mar-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that Congress has created a scenario where that could happen.


[30-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Walmart etc. don't tap into the money and neither do real estate developers for the most part


[30-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
then things should be fine.


[30-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do not trust them not to.


[30-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system will be strained come July with some businesses that provide luxury goods failing anyways.


[30-Mar-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
While ones that provide necessities may be making a killing and causing a complete collapse.


[30-Mar-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is, at some point consumers stop spending.


[30-Mar-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they're broke as shit.


[30-Mar-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
while everyone else is trying to make up for it with increased money velocity.


[30-Mar-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It won't be the same as Germany's thing cause wages won't go up.


[30-Mar-20 09:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> The problem is, at some point consumers stop spending.
> Because they're broke as shit.
I know that has to be true at some point, but it's sure taking a long while getting there


[30-Mar-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll instead be something where people are literally stealing food from supermarkets.


[30-Mar-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
While the rest of the world considers the dollar barely not worthless and messes up American companies to no end.


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. This scenario is what worries me.


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] jlun2#8758
I read something like that before, yet somehow US just trudges along


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Opponent#3498
when something that's considered the 'hard currency' of your economy crashes and burns, what do you do?


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Congress had stability truly in mind they'd create high-interest loans with lots of strings attached but a period where no payment's required.


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
While also doing temporary UBI


[30-Mar-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and temporary universal healthcare.


[30-Mar-20 09:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> temporary universal healthcare
don't see that happening in my life time


[30-Mar-20 09:03 AM] jlun2#8758
even if it's temp


[30-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, ideally they'd not be temporary, but thinking for now that it's just set in stone we need this stupid bullshit, temporary is what would fix the current problem.


[30-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, Trump promising on live TV free testing but not delivering is severely problematic.


[30-Mar-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're pretty screwed.


[30-Mar-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate Republicans essentially decided that Trump was too liberal for them now.


[30-Mar-20 09:07 AM] Opponent#3498
...now I feel it's kind of stupid and useless to worry about an apocalypse scenario


[30-Mar-20 09:07 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing I can do would saveguard me from that, so


[30-Mar-20 09:07 AM] Opponent#3498
why worry?


[30-Mar-20 09:08 AM] Opponent#3498
least with the virus, whether or not I believe it matters, I have things to do that would make other poeple comfortable.


[30-Mar-20 09:08 AM] jlun2#8758
1st search with covid us cases for me
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2020/03/30/covid-19-trump-says-peak-us-death-rate-likely-in-two-weeks.html

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He said he expected the United States to be on its way to recovery by June 1
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[30-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and the peak is because there will be full churches on Easter?


[30-Mar-20 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it fits.


[30-Mar-20 09:12 AM] jlun2#8758
accept god's gift of covid 19


[30-Mar-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doubles every 3 days. 14/3 is about 5. 2^5 is 32. It's currently about 2500. 2500 times 32 is 80,000.


[30-Mar-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is saying nearly a million people will die.


[30-Mar-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, off by an order of magnitude.


[30-Mar-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nearly 100,000 people will die.


[30-Mar-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just 40+ 9/11s, not 400+.


[30-Mar-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's absolutely ridiculous and would make us by far the worst-affected country by the time this is all over.


[30-Mar-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least if official numbers are to be believed.


[30-Mar-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hoping the "rally around the flag" effect falls by November.


[30-Mar-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be absolute shit if Republicans get *rewarded* for making us hit harder by the crisis.


[30-Mar-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they still lost, the lesson for them would be to mess up the response harder the next time.


[30-Mar-20 09:19 AM] jlun2#8758
> It's going to be absolute shit if Republicans get rewarded for making us hit harder by the crisis.
well Boomers still exist, so probably yea


[30-Mar-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is many Boomers die, especially in red states.


[30-Mar-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very possible.


[30-Mar-20 09:19 AM] jlun2#8758
turns out Boomers were quite clever and made it the millenial remover :sad:


[30-Mar-20 09:20 AM] jlun2#8758
||so much for no GMO||


[30-Mar-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason so many young people are getting hit is because of a lakk of healthcare.


[30-Mar-20 10:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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In India, social distancing is a privilege of the middle class
For two days, Jeetender Mahender, a 36-year-old Dalit sanitation worker, has dared not leave his family's shanty in the Valmiki slum of northern Mumbai, India, except to go to the toilet.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200330015206-02-coronavirus-india-0328-super-tease.jpg


[30-Mar-20 10:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really is discouraging that our *best* hope is that this disease really is a reckoning that carves out a statistically significant portion of the world's population


[30-Mar-20 10:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't see a way now, with what's been said and done so far behind us, for things to turn around and not have those who've shown their true colors put the mask back on and claim victory


[30-Mar-20 10:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, most assuredly they will. In a sense they already have in advance


[30-Mar-20 10:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump gave himself a 10/10, calls everything he does "Perfect", and all government officials are made to praise him at every breath


[30-Mar-20 10:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With the right wing media parroting whatever he says without any question


[30-Mar-20 10:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reality doesn't matter anymore


[30-Mar-20 10:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
By making vague statements and empty promises pointing towards victory, and making everyone else shoulder the blame, it doesn't matter whether the US is driven into the ground or not. It's a situation in which by default he can *only* take credit for the good


[30-Mar-20 10:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But media in general (aside from right-wing sources, as mentioned) are now grappling with the reality that if they do parrot the president and not the health experts, they are actively causing more people to die


[30-Mar-20 10:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are outcome odds of virus fallout in US?


[30-Mar-20 10:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
bad or worse


[30-Mar-20 10:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, it's kinda impossible to predict just how bad it'll be because there's no predicting who'll fall in line...and as time goes on, our options are running out on doing anything good about it


[30-Mar-20 10:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but 100,000 deaths is not an unreasonable estimate


[30-Mar-20 11:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-live-updates-fresh-lockdown-measures-take-effect/live-coverage/2c7808897cd4d79e843e663c509b2194

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Coronavirus Australia live updates: $1600 on-the-spot fines
A series of new restrictions will take effect across the country from midnight tonight.
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[30-Mar-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Coronavirus Australia live updates: McDonald's staff refuse to show up for work after crew member tests positive


[30-Mar-20 11:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Mar-20 12:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Stock buyers we here are arguing on whether America stocks will raise or fall this Monday


[30-Mar-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fall most likely


[30-Mar-20 12:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are "fucking" each other's mom in languages


[30-Mar-20 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile i sent a concerned email to my college's interim president asking how the new decisions are "for our safety" if the campus is only closing as 4:30pm after everyone;s already been exposed to eachother is "for our safety"


[30-Mar-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"For your safety, the Martin Campus and Bertie Campus will close daily at 4:30pm until further notice. "


[30-Mar-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[30-Mar-20 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not a fuckign safety measure if everyone has already met and interacted for the day


[30-Mar-20 12:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck


[30-Mar-20 12:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The stock I bought is falling


[30-Mar-20 12:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm losing money

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[30-Mar-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stocks-whipsaw-oil-plunges-17-year-low-coronavirus-fears-2020-3-1029043707

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'The pain looks far from over': Stocks whipsaw as oil plunges to 17...
European and Asian stocks dropped and US futures whipsawed on Monday as investors weighed plunging oil prices and escalating coronavirus risks a...
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[30-Mar-20 12:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Posts that didn't age well


[30-Mar-20 01:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-snaps-at-yamiche-alcindor-be-nice-2020-3

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Trump berated a black journalist, telling her to 'be nice' and not ...
"I was quoting you directly from your interview with Sean Hannity," PBS' Yamiche Alcindor told Trump when he accused her of being "threatening."
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[30-Mar-20 01:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know what I just realized


[30-Mar-20 01:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It makes perfect sense to me now that a shrewd businessman like Trump, who operates in the world of businesses that are currently floundering after only a week or two of lost profits, would have accused Cuomo of not needing ventilators that are "sitting in a warehouse" because that kind of foresight isn't profitable


[30-Mar-20 02:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks and they’re still fucking down

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[30-Mar-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, clocks jumped ahead in EU land but not AMERICA


[30-Mar-20 02:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we already jumped ahead


[30-Mar-20 02:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Aren't you glad there are libraries to deal with programming with time zones?


[30-Mar-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not glad we're dicking around with daylight savings in the first place


[30-Mar-20 02:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, I see *one* green number in there aaaaaand it's +0.00


[30-Mar-20 02:32 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
DST ;/ never liked and extinguishing it was the best thing the current brazilian government did imo


[30-Mar-20 02:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but how else will ben franklin hide the secrets in the declaration of independence if he can't obfuscate his weird sundial sculpture thing


[30-Mar-20 02:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Authorities: Man faces charges after coughing toward deputy, claiming he has COVID-19
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/30/authorities-man-faces-charges-after-coughing-toward-deputy-claiming-he-had-covid-19/

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A 23-year-old man is facing charges after coughing toward a Martin County Sheriff’s Office deputy and claiming he had the new coronavirus, authorities said.
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[30-Mar-20 02:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[30-Mar-20 02:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
him


[30-Mar-20 02:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who? The guy or deputy?


[30-Mar-20 02:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The guy. Did you read the article?


[30-Mar-20 02:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he didn't get arrested for coughing on a cop, he got arrested for reckless driving/DUI, said he had covid-19, was *given a mask,* and intentionally pulled it aside to cough on a cop


[30-Mar-20 02:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Can't read these articles on a phone


[30-Mar-20 02:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah. Guy was driving without a license, too. It's unclear whether he does actually have coronavirus


[30-Mar-20 02:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but he does have some very lovely charges stacked against him


[30-Mar-20 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
reading the indian article. Yeah, fucking hell


[30-Mar-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
the next time I feel like complaining about my life I should re-read that.


[30-Mar-20 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I have a feeling our hobos live better than those guys.


[30-Mar-20 05:13 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I'm truly afraid of the economy consequences


[30-Mar-20 05:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I fear that I have to move out of town to start own farm to feed myself


[30-Mar-20 05:15 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
My office literally is closing, most got fired. I'm keeping my job but I'll work from home now... thankfully we still have enough going on so I'm safe *for now* but things really need to get back in track asap.


[30-Mar-20 05:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Where I work, everyone moved to work from home and the office was shut down due to lockdown. They were already empty before.


[30-Mar-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Mar-20 05:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/trump-says-keeping-us-covid-19-deaths-to-100000-would-be-a-very-good-job

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President extends social distancing rules to 30 April, saying open for Easter plans were only ‘aspirational’
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[30-Mar-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Stonks rebounded


[30-Mar-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, 100k semi-preventable deaths is a victory


[30-Mar-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
well, likely not all of them would be preventable.


[30-Mar-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so... when does he try to declare bankruptcy and walk away?


[30-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
when he stops getting free platforming from the media.


[30-Mar-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-senator-open-economy-coronavirus-death-unavoidable-part-johnson-life-2020-3

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A GOP senator calls on Trump to reopen parts of the coronavirus-str...
Sen. Ron Johnson is suggesting drawing up lists of "nonessential businesses" that pose risks of spread and keeping them closed.
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[30-Mar-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that shit's _expensive_


[30-Mar-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt have been as expensive if we were prepped in the first goddamned place


[30-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
I meant on-air time.


[30-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
the prime time 20.00 slot is incredible.


[30-Mar-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[30-Mar-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
and he gets it for free on demand :3


[30-Mar-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Mar-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1244606910462136321

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Trump openly admitting if we made voting easier in America, Republicans wouldn't win elections

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[30-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
everyone who cares to know already knows what's up


[30-Mar-20 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
and everyone else doesn't care


[30-Mar-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trumps-attacks-on-gm-have-unnerved-companies-and-now-theyre-less-willing-to-help-with-pandemic-response/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump’s attacks on GM have ‘unnerved’ companies — and now they’re l...
President Donald Trump’s decision to attack General Motors last week reportedly “stunned” executives in the company — and has now made other companies wary of taking on projects to help combat the coronavirus pandemic. According to the New York Times, GM and its partner compan...
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[30-Mar-20 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-Mar-20 07:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1244672122414338048?s=21

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[30-Mar-20 07:09 PM] illumnious#7938
get him out already


[30-Mar-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[30-Mar-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
This shit again

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[30-Mar-20 07:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah


[30-Mar-20 07:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what an unimaginably narcissistic symbol


[30-Mar-20 07:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm rewatching the video to see if a US flag appears in it anywhere and...I do not see one


[30-Mar-20 07:21 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[30-Mar-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give it a day and trump will have signed a US flag and held it aloft at a press meeting


[30-Mar-20 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
fuck fuck fuck


[30-Mar-20 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump administration in talks with India to avoid U.S. drug supply shortage https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-administration-talks-india-avoid-u-s-drug-supply-shortage-n1171946

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Trump admin in talks with India to avoid U.S. drug supply shortage
India, the top source of generic drugs and ingredients, has restricted exports but the U.S. wants exemptions to have enough to fight coronavirus.
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[30-Mar-20 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
isnt that like one of thew worst countries currently to do that with?


[30-Mar-20 07:26 PM] illumnious#7938
yes


[30-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/monsanto-crop-system-damage-us-farms-documents

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Revealed: Monsanto predicted crop system would damage US farms
Internal documents describe how to profit from farmer losses and desire to oppose some independent testing
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[30-Mar-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were banking on their product causing damage to those not using it to make them more money.


[30-Mar-20 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
anymore of that prediction shit


[30-Mar-20 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-says-he-will-do-a-very-good-job-if-only-200000-people-die-in-us-from-covid-19/?utm_source=push_notifications similar but wat

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After downplaying the threat of the coronavirus pandemic and calling to “reopen the economy” by Easter, President Donald Trump on Sunday urged Americans to stay home until at least April 30 and predicted that it would be “good” news if only 100,000 to 200,000 people die in the...
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[30-Mar-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will do a very good job if he just dies right now


[30-Mar-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
agree


[30-Mar-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[30-Mar-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he could take ron johnson and mitch mcconnell with him, that would be great


[30-Mar-20 07:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/this-disease-is-accelerating-florida-gov-ron-desantis-slammed-over-piecemeal-stay-at-home-order/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘This disease is accelerating’: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis slammed o...
Florida governor Ron DeSantis announced this Monday that he would be signing an executive order urging Floridians in Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Monroe Counties to stay home through “mid-May,” according to the Miami Herald. “This codifies a set of rules regarding ‘Safe...
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[30-Mar-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
just curious, is the social distancing even enforceable in small towns with very little police


[30-Mar-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really enforcible in a country like America to begin with.


[30-Mar-20 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or these checkpoints


[30-Mar-20 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Social distancing is more a guideline and recommendation. Mostly enforced by companies in their premises.


[30-Mar-20 09:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
One of my employers, Home Depot is now so pissed that stores can only have fifty people in a building at a time to make shit easier. So our manager or someone has to be outside to count people

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[30-Mar-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a productive use of his time :D


[30-Mar-20 09:27 PM] AaronMk#4499
Last time I heard they had a line all the way to the far lumber entrance of the building.

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[30-Mar-20 09:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzDhm808oU4

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Jordan Klepper vs. Trump Supporters | The Daily Show
What’s better than Jordan Klepper at a Trump rally? Here’s a compilation of his greatest hits:  #TheDailyShow
 #JordanKlepper #TrevorNoah

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[30-Mar-20 09:30 PM] illumnious#7938
so many things wrong with these trumpist


[30-Mar-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Breathing being the first thing wrong, they should stop doing it


[30-Mar-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-admit-voting-rights-reform-endanger-republicans

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[30-Mar-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wect.com/2020/03/27/gov-cooper-issues-stay-home-order-all-nc/

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The order takes effect on Monday, March 30th.
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[30-Mar-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently college is one of the essential businesses


[30-Mar-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[30-Mar-20 11:23 PM] illumnious#7938
Slow ass North Carolina


[30-Mar-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now i;m emailing the college president to request a larger classroom because our current classroom has poor social distancing


[31-Mar-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/ElIf2DBrWzU

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Coronavirus III: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
As the coronavirus continues to spread across the globe, John Oliver discusses President Trump’s inconsistent response to the pandemic, including his suggestion of an Easter deadline for sending America back to work, and his reluctance to use the Defense Production Act.

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[31-Mar-20 12:21 AM] Honahue#0656
without an audience his show is weird


[31-Mar-20 12:39 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
John Oliver sounds legitimately pissed towards the end


[31-Mar-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is legitimately pissed towards the end


[31-Mar-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also fuck trump and his poll numbers


[31-Mar-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/cuomo-playing-politics-like-trump-amid-coronavirus-is-anti-american-2020-3

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New York Gov. Cuomo: Playing politics like Trump during the coronav...
"I think it's inappropriate, and I think it's counterproductive, and I think it's anti-American," Cuomo said. "Forget the politics."
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[31-Mar-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-making-ventilators-to-fight-coronavirus-how-many-when-ge-2020-3

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[31-Mar-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-reaction-healthcare-company-coronavirus-treatment-progress-2020-3-1029046223

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Dow climbs 691 points as healthcare firms make progress toward coro...
US stocks rose on Monday as investors digested a slew of updates about the coronavirus pandemic. Healthcare stocks led gains, rallying on develo...
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[31-Mar-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-got-the-population-of-seoul-wrong-by-millions-2020-3

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Trump tried to flex by asking a reporter about the population of Se...
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[31-Mar-20 01:15 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend is fucking amazing

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[31-Mar-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes pelase


[31-Mar-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kill off his only rallying platform and force him bakc off tv


[31-Mar-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-new-york-governor-cuomo-not-canceling-rent-payments-2020-3

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New York's governor says he won't commit to canceling rent payments...
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo declined to commit to rent cancellations after being asked about the provision floated by some as a smart solution.
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[31-Mar-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worse than 9/11, officially.

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[31-Mar-20 01:22 AM] illumnious#7938
FUUUUUCK #3000DEATHSSOFUCKINGFAR


[31-Mar-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
3000


[31-Mar-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA


[31-Mar-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[31-Mar-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile our "president" attacks legitimate questions in hostility because it might fuck with his pioll numbers if he gives a sincere honest fucking answer


[31-Mar-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck america


[31-Mar-20 01:29 AM] illumnious#7938
tonight's stonks is kinda impressive?

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[31-Mar-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it bounced a little because medical a good


[31-Mar-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it's gonna tank more because everything else a bad


[31-Mar-20 01:32 AM] illumnious#7938
of course


[31-Mar-20 01:32 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm waiting for tomorrow's stonks


[31-Mar-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially with growing numbers of protests and strikes over inadequate social distancing practices in companies


[31-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
We've surpassed Iran's death count and are about to surpass China's.


[31-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
From there, we'll surpass France.


[31-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Italy and Spain will be the only two to keep a lead for a while.


[31-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American Flu


[31-Mar-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And since Italy's got things flattening, and Spain is somewhat taking this seriously...


[31-Mar-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/biden-says-coronavirus-hasnt-changed-his-mind-on-single-payer.html

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[31-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
May he get the virus and die.


[31-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your son only survived as long as he did because you begged the president for help, you moron.


[31-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He probably doesn't even remember that.


[31-Mar-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
There needs to be cognitive tests for candidates.


[31-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As much as I think he would be good, I don't think leaving him behind for Cuomo would work out well.


[31-Mar-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880?s=19https://twitter.com/Manda_like_wine/status/1244602911084154880?s=19

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Nevada, a state in one of the richest countries in the world, has painted social-distancing boxes on a concrete parking lot for the homeless to sleep in.
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[31-Mar-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cuomo is cut from the same cloth as all the other New York rich shits.


[31-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can also portray him as a wartime leader.


[31-Mar-20 01:38 AM] Honahue#0656
they should make it more effective by making the boxes bigger and giving them walls and a roof plumbing and electricity would help too


[31-Mar-20 01:38 AM] illumnious#7938
oof

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[31-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Recovery is slow with it.


[31-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It fukks up your lungs.


[31-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically like, 20% of people who get it don't even know. 20% get their lungs rekt


[31-Mar-20 01:39 AM] illumnious#7938
also Murica's healthcare is shitty


[31-Mar-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is exactly the virus to worry about.


[31-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is extremely able to spread invisibly.


[31-Mar-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yet it also can hospitalize people overnite.


[31-Mar-20 01:41 AM] illumnious#7938
update

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[31-Mar-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/las-vegas-parking-lot-turned-into-homeless-shelter-during-coronavirus-crisis

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[31-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, if only they had tens of thousands of places to put these people


[31-Mar-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Real shame


[31-Mar-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed, it's horrible that las vegas has no hotels what so ever


[31-Mar-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should really build a few hotels, it sounds liek they really need them


[31-Mar-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has a Las Vegas hotel.


[31-Mar-20 01:43 AM] illumnious#7938
they could use that instead


[31-Mar-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can states emminant domain all of trump's hotels?


[31-Mar-20 01:45 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/DavidJHarrisJr/status/1244742662919540736

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Amazing! @MyPillowUSA Founder @realMikeLindell shares how he's allocated 75% of his company to help combat this crisis! 

His "off the cuff" statement about @realDonaldTrump was timely and accurate! 

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[31-Mar-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's not too surprising actually, considering i;ve seen the my pillow infomercials


[31-Mar-20 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Imma make it a point to jack off into every bible I find in a hotel

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[31-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Honahue#0656
you gonna have only a nub left after that


[31-Mar-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."- Ezekiel 23:20, NIV

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[31-Mar-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the perfect passage to leave a sticky bookmark in


[31-Mar-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/penises.html


[31-Mar-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who actually reads KJV unless you're in one of those weird churches in the South


[31-Mar-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
> that's not too surprising actually, considering i;ve seen the my pillow infomercials
@prism stryder(intexda) I saw those *My Pillow* commercials from BBC America


[31-Mar-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For comparison


[31-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."- Genesis 19:5, KJV


[31-Mar-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."- Genesis 19:5, NIV


[31-Mar-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
>the men who came to you

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[31-Mar-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No one can fuck my strange guests! However, I have two beautiful virgin daughters. You may have them instead. Do onto them whatever you want, really. Whatever you can think of. Just please, go nuts."


[31-Mar-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://t.co/RM5ZJ86ltm?amp=1

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Liberty University Brings Back Its Students, and Coronavirus Fears,...
The decision by the school’s president, Jerry Falwell Jr., to partly reopen his evangelical university enraged residents of Lynchburg, Va. Then students started getting sick.
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[31-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
>Lynchburg


[31-Mar-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
ironic name


[31-Mar-20 02:10 AM] ononim#8141
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[31-Mar-20 02:14 AM] illumnious#7938
slow tho


[31-Mar-20 02:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know if it's nihilism, masochism, or pure petty retribution, but *bring it on.* I feel like the harder we get hit by unfeeling, uncaring reality, the *fairness* of the disease itself, the more we all get to face the consequences of the unfairness that's been thrust upon us by negligent and malicious leadership (or lack thereof)


[31-Mar-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
"some of you may die" etc.


[31-Mar-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-Mar-20 02:43 AM] jlun2#8758
> There needs to be cognitive tests for candidates.
Do old people even believe in cognitive decline


[31-Mar-20 02:44 AM] jlun2#8758
I experienced seeing seniors in denial of that before


[31-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I am feeling cognitive decline and I'm not even 20 yet


[31-Mar-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
:tempsurprise:


[31-Mar-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hole family

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[31-Mar-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
H o l e  f a m i l y

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[31-Mar-20 02:46 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[31-Mar-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why doesn't PJW just go infect himself if it is nothing to him then

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[31-Mar-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
delete this


[31-Mar-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[31-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PJW and his ilk are hilariously anti-sex/women.


[31-Mar-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PJW didn't know there was a use for birth control other than promiscuous sex.


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[31-Mar-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Not related to pic above)

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[31-Mar-20 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s probably fruitless but i sent a letter to roy fucking cooper about colleges that probably wont go anywhere


[31-Mar-20 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[31-Mar-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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My neighbor didn’t show up for work. His boss called the cops to do a “welfare check.” They shot and killed him.

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[31-Mar-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/490247-judge-blocks-texas-from-banning-abortion-as-part-of-coronavirus

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Judges block Texas, Ohio, Alabama from banning abortion as part of ...
Two federal judges on Monday temporarily blocked Texas, Ohio and Alabama from enforcing a ban on abortions as part of their response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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[31-Mar-20 04:21 AM] Opponent#3498
Welfare check: Failed.


[31-Mar-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> Failed
Not in America; that's a "success"


[31-Mar-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
failure is success in america!


[31-Mar-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/490299-maxine-waters-unleashes-over-trump-covid-19-response-stop-congratulating

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[31-Mar-20 06:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Tonight’s stonks part 2

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[31-Mar-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder if trump is gonna sign this one too


[31-Mar-20 06:48 AM] illumnious#7938
I hope not but I’ll be watching the stock market tomorrow


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[31-Mar-20 07:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our "ccp mouthpiece" news media today


[31-Mar-20 07:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
8 pieces of news for total, 6 about Trump's speeches, 1 about Singapore Prime Minister's, 1 about a video of ducks...


[31-Mar-20 07:18 AM] Honahue#0656
ducks are important


[31-Mar-20 07:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Xi: wtf


[31-Mar-20 07:21 AM] Opponent#3498
🦆


[31-Mar-20 07:37 AM] jlun2#8758
That was a short recession


[31-Mar-20 07:52 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang link the duck one pls


[31-Mar-20 07:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://b23.tv/BV1oA41187Jg

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鸭鸭：或许这就是成长吧..._哔哩哔哩 (゜-゜)つロ 干杯~-bilibili
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[31-Mar-20 07:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@jlun2


[31-Mar-20 08:05 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[31-Mar-20 08:05 AM] jlun2#8758
baby duckling just got smooshed rip


[31-Mar-20 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
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[31-Mar-20 09:13 AM] jlun2#8758
Elevation is the same as people in America


[31-Mar-20 10:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He probably has an aide talking into an earpiece furiously googling and wikiing stuff as he's asked


[31-Mar-20 10:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Given his eye-chart-level sharpie notes, I'm not actually sure the man has the capacity to hear things in an earpiece and talk at the same time


[31-Mar-20 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no no, Wingbeat


[31-Mar-20 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
there was a clip a few months bakk


[31-Mar-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump after saying something that didn't sit well with an audience


[31-Mar-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
paused a bit, then quietly said "something"


[31-Mar-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Meaning* someone was telling him thru an earpiece to "say something".


[31-Mar-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he misunderstood.


[31-Mar-20 11:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess that's point proven, then


[31-Mar-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1193923239963222016

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You can shoot me, but you’ll have to kill us all.”

[pause for applause]

Earpiece guy: “No one’s fucking clapping, you ridiculous monolith of dogshit. Fucking say something.”

“Something.”

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[31-Mar-20 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was at a veterans parade talking about a guy in a POW camp who spoke on behalf of them using the the I am Spartacus defense to prevent the Germans killing the Jewish among them.


[31-Mar-20 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of those "see I care about the Jews" things.


[31-Mar-20 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which naturally didn't go well because he was most likely being told very specifically exactly what to say.


[31-Mar-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Trump on his own can't put together quotes and such to praise other people and indicate heroism.


[31-Mar-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd just grandstand about himself.


[31-Mar-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why this shit happened.


[31-Mar-20 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...the really scary part of all this, @WingbeatPony, is that essentially, Trump in front of the cameras is his aides trying to make him seem better.


[31-Mar-20 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine what he's like without anyone around to prop him up.


[31-Mar-20 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, we already know from numerous exposes that he's a ridiculous moron who thinks he can do all sorts of shit until people threaten to quit etc.


[31-Mar-20 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
complete with eating sensitive documents.


[31-Mar-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/490290-coronavirus-poses-new-threat-to-mortgage-industry

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Coronavirus poses new threat to mortgage industry
A flood of missed home-loan payments caused by the coronavirus outbreak is threatening to bankrupt U.S. mortgage lenders and deepen the economic toll of the pandemic.
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[31-Mar-20 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/490182-poll-voters-say-its-unsafe-to-hold-primary-elections-amid-coronavirus

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Poll: Voters say it's unsafe to hold primary elections amid coronav...
A strong majority of voters say they don’t believe it’s safe to hold primary elections right now because of the coronavirus outbreak, according to a new poll.
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[31-Mar-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No kidding


[31-Mar-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stocks-oil-jump-china-manufacturing-pmi-europe-coronavirus-gains-2020-3-1029048059

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Stocks climbed on Tuesday, driven by signs of a Chinese manufacturing recovery and the prospect of the novel coronavirus passing its peak in Eur...
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[31-Mar-20 03:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Today's stonks

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[31-Mar-20 03:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck


[31-Mar-20 03:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
America stocks raising means China stocks falling


[31-Mar-20 03:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And I bought China's...


[31-Mar-20 03:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Sorry to hear that


[31-Mar-20 03:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Hm

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[31-Mar-20 03:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://mashpeewampanoagtribe-nsn.gov/news/2020/3/27/message-from-the-chairman-we-will-take-action-to-prevent-the-loss-of-our-land

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Message from the Chairman: We Will Take Action to Prevent the Loss ...
At 4:00 pm today -- on the very day that the United States has reached a record 100,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus and our Tribe is desperately struggling with responding to this devastating pandemic -- the Bureau of Indian Affairs informed me that the Secretary of the...
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[31-Mar-20 03:29 PM] ononim#8141
```At  4:00 pm today -- on the very day that the United States has reached a record 100,000 confirmed cases of the coronavirus and our Tribe is desperately struggling with responding to this devastating pandemic --  the Bureau of Indian Affairs informed me that the Secretary of the Interior has ordered that our reservation be disestablished and that our  land be taken out of trust.  Not since the termination era of the  mid-twentieth century has a Secretary taken action to disestablish a reservation.

Today's action was cruel and it was unnecessary. The Secretary is under no court order to take our land out of trust.  He is fully aware that litigation to uphold our status as a tribe eligible for the benefits of the Indian Reorganization Act is ongoing.```


[31-Mar-20 03:32 PM] illumnious#7938
'I fear for my life': Prisoners in New York City jails sound alarm as coronavirus spreads https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prisoners-new-york-city-jails-sound-alarm-coronavirus-spreads-i-n1172306

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‘I fear for my life’: Prisoners in New York City jails sound alarm ...
American jails are "ticking time bombs" for COVID-19, a retired sheriff said.
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[31-Mar-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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American burn vs British Murder
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[31-Mar-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
(the hospital legally can't turn you away, but still, 🇺🇸 for the rest)


[31-Mar-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/evangelical-christian-coronavirus-tents-central-park-new-york-samaritan-purse-2020-3

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The group building tents for coronavirus treatment in Central Park ...
Samaritan's Purse, the group that built coronavirus field hospitals in New York's Central Park, is seeking Christian staff members.
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[31-Mar-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
...and british people be like 'the whole school dying out of virus is a small price to pay for strengthening the nation with herd immunity!'


[31-Mar-20 05:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats exactly how Europe survived pestilence


[31-Mar-20 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
if you mean the current one, not quite. In the past, there wasn't much of a choice.


[31-Mar-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing trump, if the nation reachhes 200,000 deaths, he'll move the goal post and congratulate himself for being able to do so


[31-Mar-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
'We absolutely did not expect this! But we handled it perfectly! I think I handled it perfectly! 10 out of 10!'


[31-Mar-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"As long as we're under 400,000 I'm doing a good job and we can all relax!"


[31-Mar-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/new-yorkers-are-throwing-corona-potlucks-and-visiting-speakeasies/

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New Yorkers are throwing ‘corona potlucks’ and visiting ‘speakeasie...
Quarantine? Is that a drink? While most New Yorkers are hunkering in place, others are popping corks and staging parties that defy occupancy and social-distancing edicts. Lucian Wintrich, a former …
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[31-Mar-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Quarantine? Is that a drink?

While most New Yorkers are hunkering in place, others are popping corks and staging parties that defy occupancy and social-distancing edicts.

Lucian Wintrich, a former White House reporter and advertisement hand, is one of them. The 31-year-old contrarian recently hosted a “corona potluck” at his small but chic East Village apartment.

“They can’t diagnose us all,” reads the invite Wintrich sent to a select group for the March 14 gathering. “Don’t wash your hands. … Bring your fav dish!” The tongue-in-cheek advert also included an image of a boy covered in chicken pox and a fork digging into a coronavirus spore.

“The majority of folks I invited, if they got it, would recover fairly quickly and build up an immunity to the present form of COVID19,” he said unapologetically. “It was relatively inspired by the chickenpox parties that were all the rage in the 90s.”

The events, which Wintrich himself remembered attending, were once popular among parents as a way to expose their children to the common childhood scourge early to inoculate them later in life. They fell out of fashion after a vaccine was developed in the mid-90s.

He added that nobody at the party was deliberately looking to infect anyone. “The quarantine, itself, is serious to a degree. I wouldn’t hang around folks over the age of 50 and risk infecting the more vulnerable,” Wintrich said.


[31-Mar-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/490335-mcconnell-impeachment-distracted-government-from-coronavirus-threat

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blamed the Democrats’ push to impeach President Trump in January for distracti
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[31-Mar-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
fraud


[31-Mar-20 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/31/media/chris-cuomo-coronavirus/index.html

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CNN anchor Chris Cuomo diagnosed with coronavirus; he will continue...
CNN anchor Chris Cuomo said Tuesday that he has been diagnosed with Covid-19.
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[31-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
VERMIN SUPREME 2020

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[31-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
MAKE AMERICA RATTY AGAIN


[31-Mar-20 06:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

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[31-Mar-20 07:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
He has ponies!


[31-Mar-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/100000-sign-petition-for-networks-stop-airing-trump-briefings-2020-3

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Over 100,000 sign a petition demanding TV networks stop airing Trum...
The petition charges the president with using the coronavirus press conferences as an opportunity to hold a "live campaign rally."
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[31-Mar-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
do petitions even do shit


[31-Mar-20 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[31-Mar-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-Mar-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Woodstock-like Christian event"


[31-Mar-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jesus that sounds so lame


[31-Mar-20 08:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right so this should have the police at his door *when?*


[31-Mar-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
so they get high on Jesus instead of estasy?


[31-Mar-20 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Will likely have christian rock in it


[31-Mar-20 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lame


[31-Mar-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy a concert of people in  church suits where no one does any drugs


[31-Mar-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/29/trump_extends_social_distancing_to_april_30_easter_was_just_an_aspiration.html

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President Trump revised his plan to end social distancing and other measures to combat coronavirus, saying the old deadline, Easter, April 12, was "just an aspiration."

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[31-Mar-20 08:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia


[31-Mar-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
check out the brain on this man


[31-Mar-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
it's so massive


[31-Mar-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/battelle/status/1245064345500999681?s=21

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[31-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
who's Battelle?


[31-Mar-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
manufacturer?


[31-Mar-20 09:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
R&D medical (and other scientific stuff) facility in ohio


[31-Mar-20 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battelle_Memorial_Institute

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Battelle Memorial Institute
Battelle Memorial Institute (more widely known as simply Battelle) is a private nonprofit applied science and technology development company headquartered in Columbus, Ohio. Battelle is a charitable trust organized as a nonprofit corporation under the laws of the State of Ohio...
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[31-Mar-20 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
right, thanks.


[31-Mar-20 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess, what, they put the things in a vacuum chamber and then heat it up to 80C or something?


[31-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
that's more or less how it's typically done.


[31-Mar-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe higher than 80, generally higher is better IF it's safe to do so with the material.


[31-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
70 C for half an hour works on N95 masks.


[31-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Higher temperatures could pose problems for the mask.


[31-Mar-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
You only need 57 C for COVID-19.


[31-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems previously they'd just toss them after use.


[31-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But now they're trying this because there's no other choice.


[31-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know how it goes with capitalism


[31-Mar-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
cheaper to make a new mask than to reheat


[31-Mar-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/490372-welcome-to-the-fake-recession#

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Welcome to the fake recession
Real recessions – like the great one we had in 2009 – come without choice. We chose to have this recession.
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[31-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Says it's serious, but won't last


[31-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, five plus months of not normal life won't have a lasting impact


[31-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, DS9's episode about 2024 is playing on TV right now in the other room.


[31-Mar-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's looking scarily possible.


[31-Mar-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You seen that one, @Itsthinking?


[31-Mar-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> won't have lasting impact
well, correct. The boomers would've probably completely forgot about it in a year


[31-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right, I forgot people didn't chose to invest money in hot air for the 2008 crash


[31-Mar-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie No but I was just getting annoyed at people saying Death Stranding predicted this


[31-Mar-20 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
I was too young to even understand it


[31-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly me not realizing it was actually caused by natural phenomena beyond human control


[31-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the idea is


[31-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We just pushed a pause button, and we should have


[31-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When we hit play, everything will be okay


[31-Mar-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hah, no


[31-Mar-20 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That assumes everyone has savings they're living off of, that none of the businesses that are closed rely on perishable inventory, that once restrictions get lifted people will go out in public as freely, that no one has racked up medical or funeral expenses, etc


[31-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's exactly what they believe.


[31-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Crow#5457
what's the DS9 thing about 2024


[31-Mar-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That come August or September (conveniently right when another wave would probably hit/get ready to) people will pretend this never happened


[31-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking so the premise is that it's 2024 San Francisco and the homeless crisis led to the "Sanctuaries". Captain Sisko and Dr. Bashir end up in Sanctuary Block A, where 10,000 vagrants are given food and shelter in horrid living conditions. Dax meanwhile manages to convince someone she has a home and money but is a tourist and so soon enuff she's at fancy rich parties pointing out that it's not just about food and shelter if there's a wall around it.


[31-Mar-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sisko gets mistaken for a guy who the future history books said started riots and said guy dies so cue Sisko holding a shotgun at gov't workers trying to sort out the mess.


[31-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't put in any futuristic elements btw


[31-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I like those Star Trek episodes where the budget ran out so they find an excuse to set it on modern day/near modern day Earth


[31-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(other than time travel)


[31-Mar-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, I mean no futuristic elements in the "past".


[31-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most stuff they put in some BS because IN TWENTY YEARS THERE WILL BE FLYING CARSSSSS


[31-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
but for this they just like


[31-Mar-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
did nothing.


[31-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_remembers the magazines he found back home that promised flying cars by 1997_


[31-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an awful idea.


[31-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mass transit but better is the best idea


[31-Mar-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like when someone pointed out that what Elon Musk essentially wants to make is a really inefficient subway


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or someone came up with an idea for an Uber that carries a lot of people and has designated stops


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God, the hyperloop


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways the core premise is


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not hyperloop I don't think


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When I first read about it I thought "cool, bullet trains between cities in a vacuum tube, ok!"


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
San Francisco dealt with rising homelessness and unemployment by just removing the problem from the streets


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the one where cars go on rocket sleds through a tunnel or something


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then he talked more about it


[31-Mar-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
a walled compound for all the homeless to murder each other in so the rich don't hav to think about them


[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's... a fucking tesla on rails in a not-vacuum?


[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For inner city travel?


[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just... build a subway you fucking moron


[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time the ep aired this was pretty much unthinkable


[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.gq.com/story/elon-musk-yelp-reviews

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Elon Musk’s Hilariously Bad Subway System Leaves Virginia Transit O...
“We’ll give Elon Musk and the Boring Company credit for at least trying.”
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[31-Mar-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was no big homelessness crisis in San Francisco etc.


[31-Mar-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When was Escape from New York / LA set in? 2000?


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So at the time of airing the ep would be seen as one of those "silly Star Trek assuming the future will be trash"


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hell, 1988


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Escape from New York was set in 1997


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, yeah


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] jlun2#8758
I just assume by now a Mars base is more realistic than flying cars now.


[31-Mar-20 10:29 PM] Honahue#0656
WW3 starts in 2026 in Trek


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, if they'd gone for 2030 I'd certainly believe it


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Depends on which Trek


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Honahue#0656
TNG


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
they kept changing what WW3 is as things went on.


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think by the time of the TNG movies, WW3 was 2050s


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
did they blame it on time travel


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just every time it came up changed the dates.


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Honahue#0656
nah, the frist warp drive is 2060 but 2026 is the start of ww3 it ends later with like 500 million dead


[31-Mar-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bizarelly, DS9 also references a SEPARATE eugenics war


[31-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Honahue#0656
well yeah but the first eugenics was was in the 90's and that was predicted in TOS


[31-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
but tbh the "no genetic engineering" rule was kinda dumb in TNG to begin with.


[31-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Honahue#0656
they didn't even follow it till later


[31-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would expect no future Trek series to treat genetic engineering as a no-go.


[31-Mar-20 10:31 PM] Honahue#0656
there was a season 1 episode about all the wonderful things they were doing with genetic engineering


[31-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Enterprise sort of preserved it but not very well.


[31-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
And their big ep about (not) curing a genetic disease was...horrible.


[31-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah Enterprise was really hit or miss


[31-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Honahue#0656
season 4 has some really good episodes


[31-Mar-20 10:32 PM] Honahue#0656
Through a Mirror Darkly is some great Trek


[31-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
mostly miss though especially in the early seasons


[31-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the Bell Riots is probably some of the most realistic speculative history in Trek, @Itsthinking


[31-Mar-20 10:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I never watched it, but how good was their portrayal of GMOs? was it "basically the same look as current plants but immune to X" or "we just created an entire new plant"?


[31-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guy with a shotgun holds gov't workers hostage to demand actually good treatment of the homeless in San Fran.


[31-Mar-20 10:33 PM] Honahue#0656
but I think without Rodenberry Trek lost it's aggresive opptimism which I think is important or it just because another future scifi distopis like Picard has


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
that'll just make them ban shot guns instead of solving housing


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
TNG without Roddenberry was good.


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
DS9 was amazing.


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is most writers don't *get* DS9.


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most writers are Dusedau.


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Honahue#0656
DS9 is good because if follows more normal writing conventions


[31-Mar-20 10:34 PM] Honahue#0656
TNG wasn't allowed to have intercrew conflict


[31-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
One of the best eps of TNG is The High Ground.


[31-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ep that managed to get banned from the UK


[31-Mar-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it predicted the Good Friday Agreement.


[31-Mar-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie probably not what you meant?

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[31-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The MLP writer.


[31-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one who thought Equestria had 50 states.


[31-Mar-20 10:36 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[31-Mar-20 10:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> Equestria had 50 states
let me guess. "pony" is a dog whistle for white right


[31-Mar-20 10:36 PM] Honahue#0656
unicorn master race


[31-Mar-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
No the guy literally didn't know it wasn't the US.


[31-Mar-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways DS9 actually understood things like political conflict.


[31-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[31-Mar-20 10:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
read replies


[31-Mar-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
I doubt any of the staff has ever encountered a non-heteronormative person in their lives.


[31-Mar-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
lol a TV network saying this.


[31-Mar-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are there any trans characters in any CN shows right now?


[31-Mar-20 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
[SU fandom stirs in its grotto]


[31-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
SU absolutely does not count.


[31-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its characters are mostly neuter.


[31-Mar-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Steven is a weird suicide-spawn.


[31-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And its characters are neuter for the purpose of making lesbianism into some faux stuff that corporate types can accept.


[31-Mar-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
eh they'll probably trot out that fusion he had with the human girl or something


[31-Mar-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Intersex isn't trans either.


[31-Mar-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the problem with accepting SU as counting on this stuff is it trivializes the whole issue.


[31-Mar-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in SU, which bathroom they use is turned into a joke because **they don't use the bathroom**.


[31-Mar-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just makes everything trivial because it removes the genitals and thus the entire thing conservatives latch onto as the problem.


[31-Mar-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot like if a show just put mild blakkface on some of its characters, had people casually say they're blakk, while not having any actual differences in culture or whatnot, and saying it's takkling racial equality.


[31-Mar-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except that also they're all alien jelly monsters to begin with.


[31-Mar-20 10:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Alien light goodnesses*


[31-Mar-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie It's rainbowwashing, like greenwashing or pinkwashing


[31-Mar-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much.


[31-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lord help us if our show about accepting people with differences has them hav actual differences that matter.


[31-Mar-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our female-only alien race HAS PUSSIES?????!!!!


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, yesterday while looking at that annotated bible thing


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think we may be past the era of cartoons with lore and deep stuff


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easier to do comedies.


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
saw a passage about how like, if you hav any kind of penile or testicular injury


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Less controversial.


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
you're not allowed in congregations


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well except the Church of CBT


[31-Mar-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But we don't talk about them


[31-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's Old Testament so likely many protestants disregard it.


[31-Mar-20 11:00 PM] jlun2#8758
do kids even watch cartoons? i thought they go fortnite


[31-Mar-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
On YouTube and Netflix, yes.


[31-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The big fear of Boomers is that like, one of these cartoons that promotes tolerating trans people makes a movie


[31-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that such cartoon will say "don't ask what's between my legs, it doesn't matter"


[31-Mar-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Won't happen right now cause China.


[31-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So all of Disney's "accept yourself" movies hav to hav straight characters who get married to their straight love interest and find out their identity issues are magical in nature.


[31-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also Mulan is gonna be a clusterfukk.


[31-Mar-20 11:02 PM] jlun2#8758
> on Youtube
you mean this shit

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[31-Mar-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's already getting PG-13.


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it's not because of some blood or a decapitation or something.


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those are easy to edit out (and for the latter, PG does it all the time)


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
do G rated movies even exist anymore


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not really, no.


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Netflix allows more, for example Vogel's new show


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a whole rant about G that I could try to condense.


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
the tl;dr is like


[31-Mar-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though interestingly, you could do the same concept when it was played off as a joke.


[31-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
By making a movie more kid-friendly (simpler concepts and innuendos instead of explicitness)


[31-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
you make it less adult-friendly usually


[31-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
really good writing can get around this, but most writers are bad


[31-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Start out with an adult cartoon and then tone down


[31-Mar-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rather than kids cartoon and tone up


[31-Mar-20 11:05 PM] jlun2#8758
> but most writers are bad
but they're white so its alright ~HR folks?


[31-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways the problem is ratings ruffly fit on both these matters.


[31-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
For an adult-child pair, which is the most lucrative audience, you need an overlap of interest


[31-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even weirder is video games, the E10+ rating was used for a while but now not really


[31-Mar-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The kid wants G to PG-13, the adult wants PG to R


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] illumnious#7938
this afternoon's stocks

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[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So both G and R won't get both.


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hence you can only make your movies PG or PG-13


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, to note


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] jlun2#8758
PG 13 rated slasher movie pls


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
previously there was G, PG, R


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Honahue#0656
the rating system is completely arbitrary anyway, there aren't any hard rules on what gets what rating


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
PG-13 was created as a compromise


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a bunch of 80s movies came out rated PG


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Honahue#0656
PG-13 slasher
AvP the first one


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it took the worse parts of PG


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Indiana Jones I think


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can say Fuck, twice


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Once.


[31-Mar-20 11:06 PM] illumnious#7938
> you mean this shit
@jlun2 I hate everything


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once but not sexual, twice if you mix it up in certain ways.


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought it was two


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
again it's all arbitrary there isn


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was twice for the Martian


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
they got an exemption on 1


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
isn't a list


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
these are inferred rules


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Honahue#0656
but nothing is explicit


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, one of your "fuck"s has to be said in extreme exasperation to not count to the 1 fukk limit.


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, it's the same for PEGI and ESRB


[31-Mar-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously they are...quite the bean counters.


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
"They're fucking" - R


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to write for a game is a pita because of rating


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways the problem is like


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the G, PG, R system


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
G was for kids, R was for adults, PG was for both.


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It worked really well.


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Honahue#0656
Texas Chainsaw Massacre was going for a PG rating


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kids weren't complaining cause they saw Raiders of the Lost Ark


[31-Mar-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most parents weren't either.


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once your kid could handle the worse stuff (8-10) you took them to PG


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
G was still something adults could go to because it would hav some innuendo and horror for them


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
like Hunchback of Notre Dame or such


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We want the game to be Teen 13, but we want guns and shooting and scary monsters" "OK, what are the rules" "There are none, we'll just get rated after the fact :^) "


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just make the blood green.


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
worked for Hercules.


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We made it blue


[31-Mar-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hydra gets decapitated, but the insides are green.


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
So G rated.


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know what the first game to get an E10+ rating was?


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Donkey Konga


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so the problem with adding PG-13 is


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It stole from PG.


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It stole most of the territory adults wanted.


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Honahue#0656
Star Trek did that too, Klingon blood is purple to get a PG rating


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought it was pink


[31-Mar-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was pinkish purple.


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen the movie like 5 times.


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pepto Bismol


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so this creates a problem because now PG is tiny


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Honahue#0656
looks purple

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[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's not blood, he's part robot and his coolant is dyed red"


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Got around it


[31-Mar-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that tinyness is the "sweet spot" where almost all adult-child pairs are satisfied.


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It looks like a bad Klingon cake.


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is ableism


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's definitely rather purple.


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the problem then is, now instead of PG and G both being gambles (could be the low end of G, and thus unfriendly for the adult, or the high end of PG, and thes unfriendl for the kid)


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
PG is a sure bet


[31-Mar-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
G and PG-13 are gambles


[31-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
But PG-13 is a safer gamble because it's still not that bad


[31-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
This means PG starts cannibalizing G


[31-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Soon enuff, nobody wants to make a G-rated movie.


[31-Mar-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
My parents literally refuse to watch G-rated anything now btw.


[31-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What about a nature documentary?


[31-Mar-20 11:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie So just have the characters say "Fuck" twice and your parents instantly agree? Hmm :ponythinking:


[31-Mar-20 11:14 PM] RYDE#8862
I don't watch G-rated movies.


[31-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nature documentaries get TV-PG


[31-Mar-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, jlun2.


[31-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
TV-G I think is what American Idol gets, but my parents watch anyways cause they don't notice.


[31-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's movies they care about more.


[31-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want to sit down in the theater and not see explosions and like, swords going up people's butts or something.


[31-Mar-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to see Bayformers.


[31-Mar-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Watching movies with them can be uncomfortable because they either will literally be shouting PUT THE SWORD UP HIS AAAAASS or commenting on a particular actress being hot or saying the writing's bad


[31-Mar-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's like, a Marvel movie, but one of the non-MCU ones with a deep story.


[31-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
So...enforce needing an invitation?


[31-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Come on.


[31-Mar-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is just dumb.


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
gay kissing can get your movie an R.


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is by design to just can it.


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
And in the US at least, ratings can't be challenged.


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can only cut the movie again and resubmit.


[31-Mar-20 11:19 PM] Honahue#0656
het kissing, fine for G or PG


[31-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some movies manage to get lower ratings by just continually resubmitting with tiny asthetic changes.


[31-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Want PG-13? Make the blood slightly darker each time.


[31-Mar-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You'll get it long before it's noticible to audiences.


[31-Mar-20 11:21 PM] Honahue#0656
do like the Lighthouse and film on black and white stokc with a teal filter so blood is black


[31-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, they'll giv you R if you do that.


[31-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to resubmit to wear them down.


[31-Mar-20 11:22 PM] Honahue#0656
it is very R rated


[31-Mar-20 11:24 PM] Honahue#0656
great movie though


[31-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I'm pretty sure nothing PG-rated in 2019 actually had a trans character.


[31-Mar-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
There might've been a lesbian kiss somewhere in there.


[31-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Honahue#0656
I know Disney announced ther 7th first gay character in Onward or whatever


[31-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was one line, censored most places, and in a mediocre movie apparently


[31-Mar-20 11:26 PM] Honahue#0656
that is how all Disney gay characters are


[31-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Onward wasn't mediocre, just not "great".


[31-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes it's a really easy line to miss.


[31-Mar-20 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
Pixar is generally pretty good about making movies even without John Lasseter


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Onward has the mom character like, aggressively straight and sexual


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
she's dating this centaur cop that's one of the main antagonists


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Honahue#0656
he got #Metoo'd but Disney kept that shit under wraps really well


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and every time he calls her her phone plays the sexy saxophone music


[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/andy-ngo-white-nationalist-banner/?os=dd

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[31-Mar-20 11:28 PM] Honahue#0656
hilarious


[31-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Careless Whisper


[31-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
her phone ringtone for him is Careless Whisper


[31-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it very mildly uncomfortable.


[31-Mar-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say


[31-Mar-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only part about that rainbow washing shit that I find that is helpful


[31-Mar-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is that there are certainly people who work at CN who hate equal rights


[31-Mar-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and that makes them insane


[31-Mar-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss for sure works in professional animation.


[31-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rainbowwashing is problematic.


[31-Mar-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It upsets those sorts and drives them to do stuff about it while not actually doing anything positive.


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
why is stonetoss popular


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to make a statement, make a statement.


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like he's the only edgelord with a tablet


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
No throwaway lines in the middle of a movie.


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bad people need to be told that they are bad and made to feel bad.


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just make the protagonist gay and let the fires burn.


[31-Mar-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the comics make as much sense as the average boomer political cartoon


[31-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people boycott or censor, then you hav some actual leverage to show just how crazy shit is.


[31-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to miss a throwaway line cut out for a particular country.


[31-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
People are going to miss the whole movie.


[31-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to make artwork something that is all or nothing.


[31-Mar-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You accept it as-is or no artwork for you.


[31-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And never back down, accelerate


[31-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically, Ghostbusters 2016 it, but actually make a good thing.


[31-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ghostbusters 2016 did it all sorts of wrong.


[31-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
They put women in place but made them terrible.


[31-Mar-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Saudi Arabia complains about gays?


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Put the next gay character in a hijab. Have a Hajj subplot.


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the South Park movie strategy


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every time they were told to cut things they made it longer.


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually they got their R rating, no NC-17.


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I still can't believe the censors didn't want "Straight Outta Hell" but took a dick joke.


[31-Mar-20 11:35 PM] Honahue#0656
Bigger, Longer, and Uncut


[31-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[31-Mar-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know how you've said people want Democratic ideas but a Republican in office?


[31-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss basically wants socialism, but just white people.


[31-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, I guess he's Strasserist?


[31-Mar-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
that's basically what I suspect would happen if "Democratic ideas but a Republican in office" happened


[31-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
socialism for whites, rugged individualism for blakks


[31-Mar-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And women


[31-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
There has to be someone on the bottom, remember.


[31-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
blakks might die, Jews too


[31-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
depends I guess


[31-Mar-20 11:40 PM] Honahue#0656
national socialism wasn't socialist they denationalized industries and returned them to private control


[31-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also none for women


[31-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you could the government issued girlfriend/wife benefitting from being with you


[31-Mar-20 11:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I suppose it's not socialism for (White) men, rugged individualism for women?


[31-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Honahue#0656
well yeah you gotta get them married and dependant on a man so they pop out kids


[31-Mar-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dependence for women.


[31-Mar-20 11:42 PM] jlun2#8758
no self clone :sad:


[31-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes on the left people like this are called "brocialists"


[31-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Honahue#0656
bronze medal for women was like 4-5 kids


[31-Mar-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rookie numbers.


[31-Mar-20 11:43 PM] jlun2#8758
tech brocialists


[31-Mar-20 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but those hide contempt for minorities and women and he doesn't


[31-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
oh and no socialism for gays either


[31-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only the Aryan master race are your comrades or something


[31-Mar-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[31-Mar-20 11:48 PM] jlun2#8758
will neonazis ever go away


[31-Mar-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who knows, but let's let them cause another world war and see


[31-Mar-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Birx reiterated their optimistic scenario is 100-200k deaths


[01-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God Trump is such a bitch coward


[01-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time there's a question that has an answer that could have a negative sound bite, he calls someone else to answer


[01-Apr-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
well, yeah, obviously


[01-Apr-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
he's always hyperconscious of image


[01-Apr-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-toned-it-down-on-chinaafter-xi-sucked-up-to-him

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Trump Stops Saying ‘Wuhan Virus’ After Xi Strokes His Ego
The president has taken a more conciliatory tone recently. And State Department cables suggest that China-blaming is no longer in the script.
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[01-Apr-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
"FLATTERY THE CURVE"

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[01-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump has taken heat for repeatedly describing the pathogen as the “Chinese virus.” The phrase appeared to be aimed at placing blame for the epidemic on Beijing, which U.S. officials say covered up the outbreak for weeks as the virus spread through central Hubei province.
> 
> However, the president now says he’s abandoned the term, telling Fox News in an interview Tuesday that he didn’t regret having used it, “but I decided we shouldn’t make any more of a big deal out of it.”


[01-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
trump is top cuck


[01-Apr-20 12:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we did it boys, racism is no more


[01-Apr-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-im-doing-a-great-job-fighting-the-coronavirus-and-100000-of-you-will-die

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Trump: I’m Doing a Great Job Fighting the Coronavirus, and 100,000 ...
Seriously, literally, things that Trump touches are dying, and he’s still just making sh*t up to get him through each day, and then making up different sh*t the next day.
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[01-Apr-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully he'll be part of that 100,000


[01-Apr-20 12:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Conneticut (a hotspot) is getting 50 ventilators though


[01-Apr-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
> When I wrote _Everything Trump Touches Dies_, I didn’t mean it literally.

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[01-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
connect i cut


[01-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[01-Apr-20 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
thanks, Mike Pence, former governor of Illinois, which is currently getting 450 from him


[01-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```Just make the protagonist gay and let the fires burn.```


[01-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
well the good news is, 'Farm controvercy and let fires burn and money flow' worked _really_ well with Joker so we're likely to see more of this business model used in the future.


[01-Apr-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want a journalist to ask trump "Is it true that you;re gay for mike pence? you;ve been saying such romantic things to him on air lately!"


[01-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead...We're going to go through a very tough two weeks, and then hopefully as the experts are predicting... you're going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel...But this is going to be a very painful, a very, very painful two weeks."


[01-Apr-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
didn't he say that last week


[01-Apr-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the light at the end of the tunnel is a charged particle beam... it;s going to kill us all


[01-Apr-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/us/politics/coronavirus-defense-production-act.html

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By Zolan Kanno-Youngs and Ana Swanson
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/us/politics/coronavirus-defense-production-act.html
Wartime Production Law Has Been Used Routinely, but Not With Corona...
The Defense Production Act has been invoked hundreds of thousands of times in the Trump years. But with the pandemic, the president sees it as a “break the glass” last resort.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/31/us/politics/31dc-virus-dpa1/31dc-virus-dpa1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[01-Apr-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent That would be "interesting" to have a full gay plot in pg 13 despite censorship and angry (probably white) parents


[01-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
PG-13 has gays


[01-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's PG where you can't really put them in.


[01-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This reminds me that I read recently that Nickelodeon in the 90s had a strict "no drag" rule for several shows


[01-Apr-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump was also blaming covid-19 victims for not "returning" the tests, incidentally

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[01-Apr-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, maybe I missed something here but the tests don't work like cologuard


[01-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite part of Cologuard commercials is how the woman says she can do it because she found her glasses


[01-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like when you turn down the radio when you are trying to find the address of a place


[01-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
returning the disposable, contaminated tests. Yeah, they're so rare and expensive to make after all.


[01-Apr-20 01:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That might be what he was trying to imply, but no


[01-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, you _are_ getting Trump 2020 after all I feel.


[01-Apr-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-doctor-who-shook-putins-hand-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-2020-3

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Russian doctor who shook Putin's hand tests positive for coronavirus
"I think the immunity I've developed this month is doing its job," the Russian doctor reportedly said on Facebook.
https://i.insider.com/5e839cb5ba85ee785b0790d3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[01-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
US proved to be just daft enough for all of this to seem plausible.


[01-Apr-20 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Trump thinks the reason we don't have enough test results is that we *did* test a lot of people, but they aren't giving the test kits back for analysis


[01-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
isn't it an on-site thing?


[01-Apr-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It definitely is


[01-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[01-Apr-20 01:12 AM] illumnious#7938
I was right about the stocks will go down

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[01-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's probably looking at the UK and going "Oh that's probably how it;s done here too!" without asking anyone


[01-Apr-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.t3.com/us/news/coronavirus-home-test-kits-when-theyll-be-on-sale-where-to-buy-and-more


[01-Apr-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Soon you'll be able to test if you've got coronavirus, and recovered from it, in just 15 minutes using a coronavirus home test kit. These will be available from retailers such as Boots and Amazon shortly, according to a director of Public Health England (PHE).
> 
> The UK government has ordered 3.5 million coronavirus test kits, initially targeted at key workers, with many more on the way. The kits are currently being tested.
> 
>     Where to buy hand sanitizer
>     Where to buy Clorox wipes
> 
> In a statement to the UK government's Science and Technology Committee made on March 25, Professor Sharon Peacock, director of the National Infection Service at PHE, said:
> 
> "In the near future people will be able to order a test that they can test themselves, or go to Boots, or somewhere similar to have their finger prick test done.


[01-Apr-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-toronto-to-lease-hundreds-of-hotel-rooms-to-ease-crowding-in-homeless/

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Toronto to lease hundreds of hotel rooms to ease crowding in homele...
Cities across Canada are scrambling to prepare as a Montreal man became the first homeless person to die of COVID-19, the Montreal Gazette reported Monday
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[01-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[01-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is that spike in trump's popularity


[01-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
the past 10-12 days


[01-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Free money


[01-Apr-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
free money, a base re-eneergized by constant tv presence


[01-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
45.8%, the highest approval rating he's had his entire term


[01-Apr-20 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Trump supporters tend to be the "consoom TV" kind


[01-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
on march 27


[01-Apr-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox news is also helping by telling the complete opposite story from other news


[01-Apr-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is a hero who is doing everything he can to stop the virus!


[01-Apr-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/03/31/rochester-ny-hospitals-tighten-visitor-policy-dad-hides-covid-19-symptoms-strong-highland/5085892002/

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Dad hid coronavirus symptoms to visit maternity ward after wife gav...
Strong Hospital will begin taking visitors' temperatures following an incident in which a man hid his illness so he could join his expectant wife.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/03/04/PROC/0b40f748-28b2-4438-8c9c-5e8c8e7a5625-TY_030320_ROCHESTER_CORONAVIRUS_SIGN_FOR_STRONG_MEMORIAL_HOSPTIAL_GOLISANO_CHILDREN_HOSPITAL.jpg?crop=2166,1218,x0,y109&width=1600&height=800&fit=bounds


[01-Apr-20 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/adamtaylorbates/status/1244749627745845254?s=21

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Adam Bates (@AdamTaylorBates)
https://twitter.com/adamtaylorbates/status/1244749627745845254?s=21
Trump just said Seoul has "38 million people" in it. That's such an oddly wrong and yet specific number, I did a google search for Seoul.
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[01-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
I feel like that was linked here already


[01-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/694420310425993281/rif-1585633098178.jpg

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[01-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's because I linked it lol


[01-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/694440020563460217


[01-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>not watching every channel 24/7 and reviewing everyone's everypost


[01-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
*weak*


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Touch me biden.
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[01-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> He confessed only when his wife began to show symptoms of COVID-19 shortly after giving birth


[01-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
And if *she* didn't contract it? And someone *else* in the hospital did?


[01-Apr-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru let them die ofc; rugged individualism like a true  🇺🇸


[01-Apr-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
my gsws reading for this week is an article titled "do muslim women really need saving"


[01-Apr-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
and it had this little gem


[01-Apr-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
> Finally, I need to make a crucial point about veiling. Not only are there many forms of covering, which them-selves have different meanings in the communities in which they are used, but also veiling itself must not be confused with, or made to stand for, lack of agency. As I have argued in my ethnography of a Bedouin community in Egypt in the late 1970s and 1980s (1986), pulling the black head cloth over the face in front of older respected men is considered a voluntary act by women who are deeply committed to being moral and have a sense of honor tied to family. One of the ways they show their standing is by covering their faces in certain contexts. They decide for whom they feel it is appropriate to veil.


[01-Apr-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
how to undermine your argument in 1 easy paragraph


[01-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look look, the slave cowers before us and avoids grabbing the white only food even when we don't whip! Thus we know that he has agency and should respect his decision!


[01-Apr-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
>reflections on cultural relativism


[01-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
discarded.


[01-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cultural relativism is just weasel words for "don't tell other people what to do with your facts and logic"


[01-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's, fundamentally, a defense for cultures doing shitty shit they don't need to circularly reasoned on them doing it to begin with.


[01-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fine that cultures may be different and may hav to do bad things because of their environment, and try to make the bad things less bad.


[01-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not fine when people go in and say "you shouldn't say the bad things are bad" and prevent efforts to remove or mitigate the damage caused by the bad things.


[01-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUcfGH9XkAMpx7H.png:orig

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[01-Apr-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
there's other fun stuff in here


[01-Apr-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and unfortunately for me I have to read the whole thing


[01-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please tell me your exercise is to refute its horrid reasoning.


[01-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
it is to discuss the article, in broad terms


[01-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
disagreement is allowed, thankfully


[01-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
btw the "reflections on cultural relativism" thing is a _criticism_ of it


[01-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why I dislike that phrasing.


[01-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Reflections on" literally just means "talking about"


[01-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't tell you anything about what's gonna be said or the structure of it.


[01-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it SOUNDS fancy etc.


[01-Apr-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reflections on the sex i had with ur mum last night


[01-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
*It's just a hall of mirrors showing the hot sex, somehow broadcast over xbox live voice chat using an exploit to inject video into other clients*


[01-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
```efforts to remove or mitigate the damage caused by the bad things.```


[01-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
conveniently used as an excuse for n-th war for oil.


[01-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
this is your favourite argument of idealism (theory) vs society (application)


[01-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Opponent#3498
only reversed.


[01-Apr-20 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
the death toll is generally _much_ smaller if things are left alone elsewhere.


[01-Apr-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
never underestimate the power of the US to fuck up everything


[01-Apr-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the US is basically responsible for this entire mess


[01-Apr-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what would have happened if the US had left things alone in the middle east, but it would probably be _completely different_


[01-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't mistake intervention in general for what the US does.


[01-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US doesn't even bother most of the time saying that it's trying to improve the culture or conditions.


[01-Apr-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
US is nakedly imperialist


[01-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just says so and so funded so and so so we should blow them up.


[01-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't invade Iraq because Iraq treats women poorly.


[01-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It invades Iraq because that's what the MIC wants and that's what can get you votes.


[01-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Discussion of Iraqi culture is just done after the fact to try to make people care less about those blown up.


[01-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for intervention where the US isn't charging in and grabbing up oil: Africa.


[01-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are actual ongoing projects in Africa to stop FGM


[01-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in some cases they are quite successful.


[01-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you really need to do is to get people to sign agreements that they won't let their kids marry those that underwent FGM, rather than the normal opposite.


[01-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That removes incentive for FGM to be performed, and given enuff time changes cultural norms.


[01-Apr-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
>  I have done fieldwork in Egypt over more than 20 years and I cannot think of a single woman I know, from the poorest rural to the most educated cosmopolitan, who has ever expressed envy of U.S. women, women they tend to perceive as bereft of community, vulnerable to sexual violence and social anomie, driven by individual success rather than morality, or strangely disrespectful of God.


[01-Apr-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
(in defense of some form of cultural relativism)


[01-Apr-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's a mistake to link those things together.


[01-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the argument here is really implicitly that all these things Egyptian women say are bad about being a US woman come as a pakkage deal


[01-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thus to be an Egyptian woman has advantages


[01-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it ignores that there's potential to change one thing without changing another, or that the perceptions to begin with are wrong.


[01-Apr-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general with anthropology it's a bad idea to measure social stuff by asking "do you envy this other culture that thinks of itself as good?"


[01-Apr-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will almost always just say their own culture is better.


[01-Apr-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you want to really look at is people's satisfaction sampled across different walks of life in the culture.


[01-Apr-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
there are echoes of unfalsifiability in the conclusion


[01-Apr-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well of course


[01-Apr-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire basis of cultural relativism is circular reasoning


[01-Apr-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Cultural absolutism is bad, cultural relativism is bad, but there has to be some respect for social differences [ok] but I can't tell you what those differences are [?]


[01-Apr-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
overall, work for a more just society


[01-Apr-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, but your "social differences" are at odds with my idea of a just society


[01-Apr-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reasoning is that "just" is "accepted by the society itself"


[01-Apr-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this is circular


[01-Apr-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're judging whether the society is correct by the society itself.


[01-Apr-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says it's correct so it is.


[01-Apr-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire premise is there's no objectively good things and so the question of whether the society is good becomes meaningless.


[01-Apr-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, the "relative" means "relative to itself", it's like choosing a different graph scale or thing to measure for each thing being measured.


[01-Apr-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah but to counter that, you'll have to define things that _are_ objectively good, or at least good outside of the scope of society in question... Likely based on your own opinions formed by your society's values.


[01-Apr-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a different circle, but circle all the same.


[01-Apr-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there's still an improvement to be had there.


[01-Apr-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if what you've chosen is completely arbitrary, you've at least made a choice


[01-Apr-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can then measure and compare different societies by that.


[01-Apr-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I happen to hold an unpopular viewpoint about morality that breaks the cycle


[01-Apr-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We may not agree on definitions, but it's still helpful to *stikk to* a definition, rather than change it for every thing measured.


[01-Apr-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
namely, that morality is actually objective, and the process of finding what is absolutely moral is an iterative process that humans perform throughout history


[01-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like talking about which speedrun of a game is the best.


[01-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We may not agree, buuuut


[01-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
we should at least set rules for them to evaluate from.


[01-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then we can do some rankings and talk about ways to improve.


[01-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If every single one is a world unto itself, improvement is impossible by any standards.


[01-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of particular note with cultures is that sometimes, despite them claiming they are the best, they also point to specific things they care about


[01-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and measuring such show that in one area or another, another culture does things better.


[01-Apr-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can then take that and actually improve the original culture by its own metrics.


[01-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like if the US is doing birthing wrong, and it really truly cares about babies not dying, you can look at how somewhere else does it right, and take that info bakk to the US, even if the US overall says "we're doing everything the best" as it will.


[01-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disguise the source of the info if necessary and bam.


[01-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cultural relativism in the broad sense tends to just completely ignore this.


[01-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, cultural practices often hav far-reaching ramifications. Veils aren't bad in and of themselves, it's what they do to make women unequal to men in broader terms that's a problem. And you will see women in these societies defend the veil, but they may if it were removed actually approve of the overall changes.


[01-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you stikk to hard cultural relativism, the whole deal of not telling them veils are wrong just brushes that aside.


[01-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
People **often don't know what they want**.


[01-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will say they want something, but when given it realize they're worse off, or the reverse.


[01-Apr-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If respecting people means taking as gospel what they say is best, you are submitting to this problem and reinforcing its negative effects.


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>best girl politics


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats easy


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Aqua is best girl


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/MBtVGq3Q6ag

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Everyday's Great At Your Junes!
Trying to annoy my friend by uploading this cuz he hates when she sings this song. XD'
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[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Smol child

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[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Protecc smol child


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Do not lewd smol child


[01-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But she is the best


[01-Apr-20 05:33 AM] Opponent#3498
they made Persona 4 into anime? Huh.


[01-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent yes and its the best thing


[01-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Get now


[01-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also do not lewd the smol child


[01-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But she is the best


[01-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ravioli ravioli


[01-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
already lewded the dragon loli.

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[01-Apr-20 05:56 AM] FlutterThread8#0786

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[01-Apr-20 05:57 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
most server doesn't allow totalitarian names and pfps


[01-Apr-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
what was the picture


[01-Apr-20 05:57 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
it was Spongebob as Hitler


[01-Apr-20 05:58 AM] FlutterThread8#0786

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[01-Apr-20 05:59 AM] FlutterThread8#0786
that moustache = Hitler


[01-Apr-20 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
well, there's the nazi salute and the hair as well


[01-Apr-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
4k deaths


[01-Apr-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're now in third.


[01-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-stimulus-trump-calls-for-2-trillion-infrastructure-plan.html

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Trump calls for $2 trillion infrastructure package as part of coron...
Trump, Pelosi and Schumer call for an infrastructure plan in response to the coronavirus, but it remains to be seen if Republicans get on board.
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[01-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[01-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
if obama were trying to do this, the republicans would be screaming bloody murder


[01-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-03-31/trump-infrastructure-2-trillion-interest-rates

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Trump seems to think money is free right now. It isn't
With the global economy tanking, the interest rates Washington has to pay on the money it borrows have dropped. But they're not going to be zero.
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[01-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Honahue#0656
2 trillion for high speed rail plz


[01-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[01-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
china's trying to blame the coronavirus on the US now


[01-Apr-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
well, still


[01-Apr-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
looked up the article, it was from the beginning of the month


[01-Apr-20 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078

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[01-Apr-20 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
> As readers will recall from the earlier article (above), Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus could have originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”.


[01-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
and supposedly the US covered it up by blaming vapes


[01-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
which is conspiracy theory levels of stretching

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[01-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/pentagon-ventilators/index.html

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Pentagon says it still hasn't sent ventilators because it hasn't be...
Despite having committed to transferring 2,000 ventilators in military stocks to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Health and Human Services to fight the coronavirus outbreak, the Pentagon has not shipped any of them because the agencies have not as...
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[01-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Despite having committed to transferring 2,000 ventilators in military stocks to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Health and Human Services to fight the coronavirus outbreak, the Pentagon has not shipped any of them because the agencies have not asked for them or provided a shipping location, the Pentagon's top logistics official said Tuesday.


[01-Apr-20 10:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admits-downplayed-coronavirus-i-knew-it-could-be-horrible-2020-3

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Trump just admitted he downplayed the threat of coronavirus: 'I kne...
"I knew everything. I knew it could be horrible, I knew it could be maybe good," Trump said. "I don't want to be a negative person."
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[01-Apr-20 10:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/somalia-us-airstrikes-killing-civilians-according-to-watchdogs-2020-3

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The Trump administration is ramping up airstrikes in Somalia, where...
US airstrikes in Somalia have ramped up since the start of the year, at the cost of civilian life, according to Amnesty International.
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[01-Apr-20 11:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824611607/turkmenistan-has-banned-use-of-the-word-coronavirus?sc=18&f=1001

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Turkmenistan Has Banned Use Of The Word 'Coronavirus'
Reporters Without Borders says the government has forbidden state-controlled media from using the word and ordered its removal from health brochures distributed at hospitals, schools and workplaces.
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[01-Apr-20 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/coronavirus-er-doctors-nurses-benefits

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Alteon Health, a staffing company backed by private-equity firm Frazier Healthcare Partners, will cut salaries, time off and retirement benefits for providers, citing lost revenue. Several hospital operators announced similar cuts.
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[01-Apr-20 11:27 AM] byte[]#2610
how to make yourself look even more evil than you already are ^


[01-Apr-20 11:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.insider.com/putin-told-russia-take-a-holiday-kremlin-clarified-2020-4

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Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters: "It's not days off or holidays in the classical understanding of that word."
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[01-Apr-20 02:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tbh I hate Trump but a 2 trillon doller infsrture plan to actuly build and maintain the falling apart infrastructure is really really good


[01-Apr-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
I've seen American roads and that shit is borderline traumatising to see from Australia


[01-Apr-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like yeah we have some bad suburbs, but the whole of America is like the worst of the worst suburbs everywhere, with sink holes too


[01-Apr-20 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gonna be 2 trillion to build and staff his wall


[01-Apr-20 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MbwOfS6kA

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[01-Apr-20 03:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```china's trying to blame the coronavirus on the US now```


[01-Apr-20 03:28 PM] Opponent#3498
they successfully blamed Spanish Flu on US, so why not this too?


[01-Apr-20 03:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
more like "US conspiracy theorists get capitalized on by Chinese government to shift the blame"


[01-Apr-20 03:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yes of *course* the spanish flu got blamed on the US


[01-Apr-20 03:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
do you know why it's called the spanish flu?


[01-Apr-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Speaking of Kansas Flu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oifinZTKxKo

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[01-Apr-20 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd be careful about calling it the "kansas flu" as well btw


[01-Apr-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
no


[01-Apr-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, blame US for this instead. This is entirely of their own making.


[01-Apr-20 03:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
fuck kansas


[01-Apr-20 03:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyway, to answer the question, it got called the spanish flu because spanish newspapers were the first ones to report on it (because they were less restricted in doing so)


[01-Apr-20 03:33 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I know.


[01-Apr-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
one of the other theries ('disproved' by China in recent-ish years, of course) was, the virus was brought in by Labor Corps, China's OG attempt to make money off the West using it's manpower as source of cheap labor. Don't remember why they weren't allowed to participate militarily.


[01-Apr-20 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it was "disproved" by sources outside of china, too


[01-Apr-20 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
well, in that case, fair enough. If it is the common consensus, it can kind of be trusted.


[01-Apr-20 03:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Best I can tell, the source is inconclusive but the outbreak started in earnest in europe so I wouldn't be surprised if the conclusion was that it was endemic for a good long while before conditions in the war pushed it to epidemic


[01-Apr-20 03:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc gene study on the virus suggested the it was active in the US for several years before the outbreak, just barely anyone travelled around so it wasn't really visible


[01-Apr-20 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Once kids started getting dragged from their little towns and farms to go to training camps it spread out


[01-Apr-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-briefings-reporters-broadcasters-skip-no-news-value-2020-4

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Journalists are skipping Trump's daily coronavirus press briefings,...
As the president uses the briefing to pursue grudges and spread misinformation, reporters are asking if it's worth the worth the effort.
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[01-Apr-20 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-live-updates-latest-news

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LIVE UPDATES: Dow falls 800 points after worst-ever quarter, hospit...
Here's the latest news about the coronavirus pandemic outbreak around the world and COVID-19, the disease it causes.
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[01-Apr-20 04:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have no idea why that picture is displaying in relation to this article


[01-Apr-20 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
had the same question.


[01-Apr-20 04:56 PM] Cloudy#3004
we're melting down gold medals for money now I guess


[01-Apr-20 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait till they realize it's just gold paint


[01-Apr-20 04:58 PM] Cloudy#3004
t r u e


[01-Apr-20 05:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Goddam Carnival Cruise Line cancels some voyages through end of year due to coronavirus pandemic
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/04/01/carnival-cruise-line-cancels-some-voyages-through-end-of-year-due-to-coronavirus-pandemic/

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Carnival Cruise Line has canceled some of its voyages through the end of the year amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[01-Apr-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Apr-20 05:41 PM] byte[]#2610
hmmm https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/694925278270587011/IMG_20200401_095429_523.png

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[01-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/LVIvtOq sound in source... :hopeless:

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[01-Apr-20 07:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1245389585330458626?s=21

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[01-Apr-20 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
> As the president uses the briefing to pursue grudges and spread misinformation, reporters are asking if it's worth the worth the effort.
Considering there's a demand for whatever trump says out there, apparently yes.


[01-Apr-20 07:45 PM] illumnious#7938
this afternoon's stonks

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[01-Apr-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s worth the effort for conservative commentary, less so for everyone else


[01-Apr-20 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/didier-raoult-hydroxychloroquine-plaquenil.html

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The Trumpian French Doctor Behind the Chloroquine Hype
The source of the hopes for a coronavirus cure should raise a lot of red flags.
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[01-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
He looks like the crazy scientist from Independence Day


[01-Apr-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
:flag:


[01-Apr-20 07:59 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought he looked like a hillibilly wearing a lab coat


[01-Apr-20 08:00 PM] jlun2#8758
It says he's french, but I can totally imagine him talking in a southern accent


[01-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Honahue#0656
Southern French


[01-Apr-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shokker. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

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China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says
China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.
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[01-Apr-20 08:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://index.hu/english/2020/04/01/hungary_gender_at_birth_transgender_rights/

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Hungarian government seeks to disallow legally changing one's gender
The bill would replace 'gender' in the Hungarian civil registry with the permanent entry of 'gender at birth.'
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[01-Apr-20 08:17 PM] ononim#8141
In the first butch of laws by Decree


[01-Apr-20 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, I can see how this relates to the virus, yep


[01-Apr-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/31/trump-obamacare-coronavirus-157788

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Trump rejects Obamacare special enrollment period amid pandemic
President Donald Trump and administration officials recently said they were considering relaunching HealthCare.gov.
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[01-Apr-20 08:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim I suppose that's unrepealable in our lifetime if passed?


[01-Apr-20 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
it is passed


[01-Apr-20 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
Orban managed to push pretty much dictatorial powers this week because "coronavirus"


[01-Apr-20 08:26 PM] ononim#8141
also passed are  removal of employment and public administration courts, removal of the ability of Budapest city council to stop City Park construction projects, the police is able to access tax records without warrant afaik


[01-Apr-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/zoom-app-personal-data-selling-facebook-lawsuit-alleges/

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Zoom sued for allegedly sharing users' personal data with Facebook
The video-conferencing tool has seen its user accounts soar recently, putting a spotlight on its security measures.
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[01-Apr-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
It's always facebook


[01-Apr-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/asia/coronavirus-mask-messaging-intl-hnk/index.html

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Asia may have been right about coronavirus and face masks, and the ...
In the coming weeks, if they have not already, your government is likely to begin advising you to wear a face mask to protect against coronavirus.
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[01-Apr-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, maybe we should hav made more fukking masks instead of just been saying "nah just enuff for the healthcare workers mate"


[01-Apr-20 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-desantis-coronavirus-statewide-stay-at-home-order-lockdown

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Florida's DeSantis issues statewide stay-at-home order to curb coro...
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, is facing mounting pressure from Congress to issue a statewide stay-at-home order to curb the rate of infection during the global coronavirus pandemic.
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[01-Apr-20 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> The governor said on Monday allowing the ship to dock would be a “mistake,” as South Florida is already overwhelmed by the virus and space in hospitals needs to be reserved for local patients, not foreign nationals.


[01-Apr-20 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being this guy


[01-Apr-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being part of any government structure in the US and not being a total fuckwad


[01-Apr-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Why are people like Sanders the exception and not the rule


[01-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Money


[01-Apr-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a pile of shit is an evolutionary advantage.


[01-Apr-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Smiling while lying and backstabbing with ease all the while shifting the blame elsewhere


[01-Apr-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's how to get ahead in politics (and business)


[01-Apr-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/so-about-that-supposed-lack-of-enthusiasm-for-biden/

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Welcome to FiveThirtyEight’s weekly politics chat. The transcript below has been lightly edited. sarahf (Sarah Frostenson, politics editor): Over the weekend, a…


[01-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That was about as informative and informed as a random excerpt of this channel


[01-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Except with a whole lot more "Don't talk about Biden in this article about Biden because Biden is the worst thing about the Biden candidacy"

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[01-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I saw them descend into talking about Trump and minor differences in polls and was like yeah this is nothing.


[01-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly a lot of the 538 content that's in the discussion format is like this.


[01-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only point to it is to hunt for interesting tidbits they've found, their actual words are garbage.


[01-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/12/397891885/its-official-hillary-clinton-announces-presidential-run

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It's Official: Hillary Clinton Announces Presidential Run
Clinton, a former secretary of state, U.S. senator from New York and first lady, is the first Democrat to officially announce a presidential run — and she's by far the favorite to win the nomination.
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[01-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Honahue#0656
thank you npr for putting the date in the url


[01-Apr-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/a45ujRTJyJ8

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[01-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/01/bailout-checks-social-security/


[01-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
So previously, they were saying that you wouldn't need to file a tax return.


[01-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now you do.


[01-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is after they extended the filing deadline a ton


[01-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically trying to prevent as many people as physically possible on the bottom from getting the money.


[01-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/490672-poll-biden-holds-slight-edge-on-trump-in-wisconsin

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Poll: Biden holds slight edge on Trump in Wisconsin
Former Vice President Joe Biden has a slight lead over President Trump in Wisconsin, according to a
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[01-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of the Midwest, I'm thinking Biden really wants Gretchen Whitmer for VP.


[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That name just bleeds "Disney antagonist" energy.


[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
So probably a great match.


[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200204231235-democratic-response-michigan-gretchen-whitmer-state-of-the-union-address-full-vpx-00010415-super-169.jpg

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[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's not a witch.


[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are you sure?


[01-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her smile is worse than many Republicans'.


[01-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just has that "I hope you die like the filth you are so I can get more powerful" look.


[01-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still better than picking Harris or Klobuchar.


[01-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.bridgemi.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/hero_images/whitmer-6_0.jpg?itok=XrwClOj0

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[01-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She has this look about her that makes you think "I've seen her before"


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do so many people think Harris would be it


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you make her VP


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and one of her major positions is "Obamacare BUT NO FURTHER"


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like picking Warren, she'd be better other places


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Her look reminds me of the president from BSG


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Roslin


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a store brand Rachel Ray kinda?


[01-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's just a slightly thikker Roslin, with a much worse smile.


[01-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Roslin#/media/File:LauraRoslin.jpg

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Laura Roslin
Laura Roslin is a fictional character in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series, portrayed by Mary McDonnell. She is the President of the Twelve Colonies and one of the primary characters in the show.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/LauraRoslin.jpg


[01-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait...Roslin never does the toothy smile.


[01-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC the whole "pick a running mate from a state I want to pick up" plan never really has worked statistically


[01-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's just Roslin but with a more even-proportioned face and that does the creepy politician tooth-bearing rich fukk smile.


[01-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
State matters for performance for the president, but not the VP


[01-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though McCain absolutely would have been president had he not picked Palin.


[01-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's my 2020 prediction BTW (went back and forth with Florida)

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[01-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Red Florida is not possible.


[01-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The current status is felons must be given voting rights.


[01-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is not likely to flip bakk around before the election.


[01-Apr-20 11:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well at least it's interesting to note that even if that's the only inaccuracy in this prediction, it still goes blue


[01-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the only thing I had doubts on, so I'll concede that


[01-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Blue Wall is being rebuilt in the Southwest.


[01-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, and Ohio will all be solid red within the next cycle.


[01-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans at this point are operating on a "heartland" strategy


[01-Apr-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the areas in the middle of the continent and reaching just barely to population centers.


[01-Apr-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Helps feed their COASTAL ELIIIIIIITES narrative.


[01-Apr-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also just for fun, 2024 prediction

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[01-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2028 is same but blue Texas


[01-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Texas goes blue a lot more does


[01-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eventually the GOP voting base is the old northwest and the Louisiana purchase


[01-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be the end of the Republican party as we know it.


[01-Apr-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
In particular, PA would go blue as well.


[01-Apr-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also do note I think NC might go blue in 2020


[01-Apr-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ohio too


[01-Apr-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Wisconsin


[01-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah I've already assumed this will be the first election where the person to win Ohio does not win the election


[01-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely.


[01-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will probably win Ohio.


[01-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's got the Obama stuff plus the white stuff going for him


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of candidate easily wins in northern areas.


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, man, Ohio was inundated with *years* of anti-Obama billboards and ads


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're coal country


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll look at the economy being terrible


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
to my knowledge they're still blaming Obama


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
hear "Trump botched it"


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then remember when they last had good conditions under Obama


[01-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
they won't remember Bush


[01-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more senile ones tho, they might not remember anything between Clinton and Trump.


[01-Apr-20 11:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
how can they remember good conditions under Obama if the whole time they were being told conditions were terrible *specifically* for ohio


[01-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they don't remember what they're told.


[01-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just remember how much they paid for gas.


[01-Apr-20 11:16 PM] ononim#8141
>utah


[01-Apr-20 11:16 PM] ononim#8141
>voting for trump


[01-Apr-20 11:17 PM] ononim#8141
aren't mormons one of few "Trump is just too distasteful" who are actually not buckle and don't support him?


[01-Apr-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[01-Apr-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons are liars.


[01-Apr-20 11:17 PM] ononim#8141
That's all churches :V


[01-Apr-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mormons have the veneer of niceness, though.


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons are FAR FAR worse about it.


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are the shittiest church in the US.


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Short of the obscure ones like Westboro Baptist


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Scientology is a church.


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Technically


[01-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole deal with them is they formed their own breakaway state then got rounded up and forced to be part of the US


[01-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many cutouts to reduce their territory later, they hav Utah


[01-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They got their message from God "hey polygamy is bad mmmkay" right before they wanted to be a state


[01-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their church is EXTREMELY anti-gay, and often contains a hefty dose of white supremacy


[01-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why Utah was at the forefront of an Obama-then-Trump fight over native american land


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(the message from God they got because the church got disestablished)


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically natives in Utah are treated as not being people


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They got the message "hey black people aren't evil" from God right when the Carter administration was going to fuck them over


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
everything is done to remove their rights that can be.


[01-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's convenient how that happens eh


[01-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Utah as a state is pretty much controlled by the church and is very aggressively conservative.


[01-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Idaho and Wyoming meanwhile are less powerful and less organized versions.


[01-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, I've heard that from non-Mormons in the state


[01-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Utah is a theocracy that is hell unless you're Mormon


[01-Apr-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons sometimes leak out into places like here and they're unbearable.


[01-Apr-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They routinely make their kids depressed wrekks because they don't tolerate any dissent and lather everything with niceness like they're frosting a cake.


[01-Apr-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are the "Oh dear we wouldn't mean to ever hurt you! Now where did you get those silly ideas that we're evil?" people.


[01-Apr-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
As they burn the posters from someone's wall for showing a gay guy.


[01-Apr-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
A huge component of it is the idea of families as peer pressure units.


[01-Apr-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They always go for family connections.


[01-Apr-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not quite as bad as Scientology does, but similar in effect.


[01-Apr-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Scientology is worse because if you're famous, you get the Easy Mode


[01-Apr-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tom Cruise doesn't have to do all the weird shit, nor the voice of Bart Simpson


[01-Apr-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why celebrity proponents of it are so aggressive about it, they don't do the shittiest parts.


[01-Apr-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like if only poor Mormons had to go on mission trips


[01-Apr-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons don't get famous. They instead get 10 underage hillbilly wives and breed like rabbits.


[01-Apr-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or abstain from alcohol/caffeine etc


[01-Apr-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
They also stokk up on supplies.


[01-Apr-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mormons are supposed to hav 6 months of food ready at all times etc.


[01-Apr-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are extremely pernicious.


[01-Apr-20 11:48 PM] ononim#8141
If anyone thought wht I mwant it as "they are nice" then you're very far from truth, I just pretty sure they hate trump


[01-Apr-20 11:48 PM] ononim#8141
Plenty of horrible people hate Trump


[01-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Honahue#0656
Romney is Moromon and he's actually stood up, in a small way, against Trump, Evengenlicals are the ones with capitalism equals morals


[01-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Honahue#0656
Mormon are still very dumb and backwards


[01-Apr-20 11:55 PM] Honahue#0656
Salt Lake university is basically degrees for men husbands for women


[01-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
BYU? Yeah they had that honor code thing about being gay that they got rid of but still don't like that they did


[01-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I can't type BYU without thinking of B^U


[01-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Honahue#0656
if a women makes it through university it's an aberation they basically want them to get preggers drop out and marry though they'll pretend it was marry drop out and get preggers


[02-Apr-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
are mormons in decline or nah held mostly constant like trump's approv. ratings?


[02-Apr-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good another press hearing is on right now


[02-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Honahue#0656
most christians are in decline dunno how well Mormons are at avoiding that


[02-Apr-20 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd think Trump was born yesterday, so many things he or anybody else has ever seen before


[02-Apr-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
States that have issued a mandatory stay at home order in red, those that have not, in blue

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[02-Apr-20 12:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some have only issued partial orders iirc


[02-Apr-20 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking this map makes me cry smh


[02-Apr-20 12:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y


[02-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably because I used red to show the compliant states, and if you view this as an electoral map it will make your brain hurt.


[02-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no two candidates you could pick that would have an electoral map end up like this.


[02-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Honahue#0656
tbf the population in some of those states are already socially distanced


[02-Apr-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[02-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I call this one "Secret Nazi For-err, map"

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[02-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/490703-pentagon-looking-to-provide-up-to-100000-body-bags-for-potential-civilian-use

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The Pentagon is looking into providing an additional 100,000 military-style body bags for civilian use, as the expected death toll from the coronavirus outbreak continues to rise.
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[02-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Apr-20 01:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
World People's Maoist Health Organization


[02-Apr-20 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://abc7.com/officials-engineer-tried-to-smash-train-into-usns-mercy/6069395/

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Prosecutors: Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt ...
An engineer deliberately ran a train off the tracks at high speed in an attempt to damage the USNS Mercy hospital ship, prosecutors say.
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[02-Apr-20 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[02-Apr-20 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
> An engineer deliberately ran a train off the tracks at high speed near the Port of Los Angeles in an attempt to crash into and damage the USNS Mercy hospital ship, prosecutors say.
> 
> The Pacific Harbor Line train derailed Tuesday, running through the end of the track and crashing through barriers, finally coming to rest about 250 yards from the docked naval ship.
> 
> Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"


[02-Apr-20 01:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You know how I like to joke about Tencent pulling their funding if you say anything bad about China


[02-Apr-20 01:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1245350928837832704

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巴丢草  Badiucao (@badiucao)
https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/1245350928837832704
i still can not believe this is happening
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Twitter


[02-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could be worse, could be the Zuck


[02-Apr-20 02:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf is this one's name


[02-Apr-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie could you get me sources on the Africa FGM thing


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh dat bad


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
bat dad


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
:twismug:


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why is the death rate in the US raising again


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Cloudy#3004
wuhs dis


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Cloudy#3004
o


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Cloudy#3004
because the US is number one!


[02-Apr-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
sounds like communist propaganda but ok


[02-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having trouble finding something about the agreements by people to not let their sons marry cut girls.


[02-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The general stuff about how you need to involve locals and not just mandate from on high is abundant.


[02-Apr-20 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
it came up in class discussion for gender studies


[02-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2017/1218/In-push-to-end-FGM-local-women-offer-influential-message

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In push to end FGM, local women offer influential message
More than 200 million women in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia have undergone female genital mutilation. Dozens of countries have banned the practice. But local women's testimony and advocacy may be the most significant factors in changing minds.
https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2017/12/1218-FGM-2.jpg?alias=standard_900x600


[02-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also of note, in regards to why this would even work https://www.unicef.org/media/media_69883.html

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[02-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, the locals overall *don't* support it.


[02-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, cut women hav more kids.


[02-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the problem is that by being cut, they gain access to more local support than being uncut.


[02-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because most people *dislike* the practice, but some *greatly want* it.


[02-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones who dislike won't shun women who are cut, but the ones who want it will shun women who are not.


[02-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, FGM is kept in place by a vocal minority.


[02-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
_glances over at US Christians_


[02-Apr-20 03:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "cut girl"?


[02-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
female circumcision


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf is this


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why anyone would ever support it


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
obligatory religion was a mistake


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Google says it's a kind of operation


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Cloudy#3004
because its part of those peoples culture
and they don't see why its wrong


[02-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
no, I mean it's physically revolting to look at


[02-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an unnecessary operation where parts of the vulva are removed.


[02-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's dangerous and can cause complications later in life.


[02-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
nsfw


[02-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a cultural practice mostly found in Africa, designed to ensure that women stay faithful.


[02-Apr-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf this seems like some hardcore fetishes


[02-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to either make female pleasure during sex impossible, or seal the opening so it must be cut open after marriage.


[02-Apr-20 03:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it's a stupid practice and it destroys sensitivity making people unable to feel pleasure from it and also makes for an increased infection risk.


[02-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The romantization of Africa is pretty abhorrent


[02-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Culturally, it's a fucking shithole


[02-Apr-20 03:30 AM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was this, @byte[] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/world/africa/female-genital-mutilation-kenya.html

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She Ran From the Cut, and Helped Thousands of Other Girls Escape, Too
Nice Leng’ete started a program in Kenya to create new rites of passage to replace female genital cutting and has helped 15,000 girls avoid the ritual.
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[02-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
🇺🇸 #1️⃣


[02-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, not the exact article I'd read, that's for sure.


[02-Apr-20 03:32 AM] jlun2#8758
> The romantization of Africa is pretty abhorrent
I live under a rock and all I keep seeing are African poverty stuff


[02-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it does cover most of the concept.


[02-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Another thing some african cultures do: if your husbad dies, you must torture yourself in public for days to prove you loved him, then marry one of his brothers or cousins

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[02-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a whole lot of "Look at these noble, pure people" nonsense


[02-Apr-20 03:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/coronavirus-task-force-believes-more-lives-could-have-been-saved-if-trump-acted-sooner-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Despite what the White House is saying, the Coronavirus Task Force does believe that American lives could have been saved if President Donald Trump had acted sooner, according to a source close to the taskforce. CNN reported Wednesday that the White House is still claiming tha...
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[02-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, they take care of their own, in their small villages, with their ox and chickens, so traditional and pure and untouched by the sin of modern trivialities and vanity"


[02-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, like, no


[02-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're all like the inbred hillbilly crazies of alabama, but worse


[02-Apr-20 03:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
CNN fake news


[02-Apr-20 03:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And bad journalists!


[02-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're almost at two 9/11s


[02-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When will we get the Tony nominated play about the coronavirus


[02-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a United 93 tier movie


[02-Apr-20 03:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Corona Virus was an inside job.


[02-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
👐 No one knows
🙌 corona 
👌 better than
☝ me


[02-Apr-20 03:41 AM] illumnious#7938
-Trump


[02-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
no one caws better than me


[02-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[02-Apr-20 03:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow that's completely unrealistic. The current government would've completely denied those ever existed and call it FAKE NEWS.


[02-Apr-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-war-john-kelly-impulsive-behavior-front-row-2020-4

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"This is big-boy and big-girl s---," John Kelly said in a new book. "You have to understand people will die because of these decisions."
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[02-Apr-20 03:58 AM] jlun2#8758
> Trump 'needs to understand that 18- and 19-year-old people are going to die
doesn't that help him in elections, given that means less percentage of boomer voters will die?


[02-Apr-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt change the boomer death percentage, that jsut means boomers arent the only ones going to die


[02-Apr-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might change the ratio prediction though


[02-Apr-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
It means covid will be more fatal than we thought in the US


[02-Apr-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
The CFR will be higher than in other countries with better established medical systems


[02-Apr-20 04:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/just-like-after-9-11-why-the-right-wing-is-telling-americans-that-economic-activity-is-the-same-as-patriotism/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Just like after 9/11: Why the right wing is telling Americans that ...
In the days after the September 11th attacks, President Bush, Mayor Giuliani and a variety of other politicians sought to soothe the ailing American psyche. They spoke publicly with a mixture of mourning and resolve. “Even grief recedes with time and grace,” Bush told the nati...
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[02-Apr-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
> In every unequal society, the rich and powerful want things to stay unequal. Elites use violence to make this happen. But elites also need the rest of us to believe that inequality is natural and inevitable, and the most effective way to do this is to encourage the idea that men and women are unequal. Elites enforce gendered inequality at every turn. This means we grow up thinking men and women are fundamentally different, and sexism, and the threat of sexual violence, are a constant feature of our lives.


[02-Apr-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I get to do my in-class presentation on neoliberalism next week


[02-Apr-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
for whatever "in-class" means these days 😂


[02-Apr-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
> The posh rugby boys are constantly calling each other ‘poof’ and ‘bender’, as if this is the most unarguable assertion of their own manliness.  Though  as  the  evening  progresses  it  becomes  clear  that they think nothing of drinking beer from each other’s arse-cracks  and  other  acts  that  many  hardened  homosexuals  might  shirk from.


[02-Apr-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
> What  is  love?  Love  is  a  gimmick  made  by  men.  Screw  the  shit  like  ‘I  give  my  heart  to  you’  or  ‘I  am  yours  forever’.  These  are  the  words  from  penniless  men,  since  they  can  afford  nothing  but sweet talk, which is totally worthless. If you are a real man and you love a woman, say nothing, just show her wads of bills because this secures her; and then give her a house, because that way  after  you  fucked  her  she  has  some  place  to  lay  down  her  body.


[02-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where is that from


[02-Apr-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Jacobs,  K.  (2012) People’s  Pornography:  Sex  and  Surveillance  on  the  Chinese  Internet, Chicago University Press, Chicago IL


[02-Apr-20 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[02-Apr-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Legal profession briefly considered "Maybe we don't need the bar exam and we should have an apprenticeship-style system giving a license after graduation" but nah


[02-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead, move it back two months.


[02-Apr-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's probably a good idea.


[02-Apr-20 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately, the attitude @byte[] posted there is pretty prevalent here as well.


[02-Apr-20 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
not sure which quote you refer to tbh


[02-Apr-20 05:55 AM] illumnious#7938
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tile-says-apples-behavior-anticompetitive-231846295.html?.tsrc=applewf

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Tile Inc, which helps users find lost items, told a congressional panel on Wednesday that Apple failed to live up to promises aimed at resolving a dispute between the two companies and introduced requirements that would hurt their business.  The smart-tracker maker was one of ...
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[02-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
the last one.


[02-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing matters but wads of cash.


[02-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it has _something_ going for it, as money means security in trying times, but so much wrong in almost every other respect


[02-Apr-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
money doesn't mean security in trying times


[02-Apr-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
control of the means of production does


[02-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
control is only enforcable through violence and violence is either bought from people or governments, you can't be a billionaire just cause you;ve got an 50 cal


[02-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
so if you're a billionaire your prime concern would be securing a really loyal security team


[02-Apr-20 06:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious then I buy a sandwhich, and articles about "millenials wasting their savings on shit like artisan sandwhiches" appear to guilt people from buying stuff


[02-Apr-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
boomers have constructed a no-win society for young people


[02-Apr-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
"no wage, only spend" and then they get mad when you don't actually buy stuff


[02-Apr-20 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.wptv.com/news/state/gender-reveal-party-sparks-10-acre-fire-in-florida

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[02-Apr-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
the straights keep going on about how they keep humanity from going extinct but then they try to kill everyone with gender reveal parties


[02-Apr-20 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
this is your society on capitalism https://i.redd.it/xsfzdkzbnaq41.jpg

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[02-Apr-20 10:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/01/doj-engineer-derailed-train-usns-mercy-los-angeles-government-takeover/5110021002/

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A California man faces federal charges after officials say he ran a train "at full speed off the end of rail tracks" near the U.S. Naval Ship Mercy.
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[02-Apr-20 10:53 AM] nova bellfire#2446
i did the math he needed to go about forty miles an hour faster to hit the ship luccy for us idiots can't succeed


[02-Apr-20 10:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Medical treatment stocks in China are raising quickly!


[02-Apr-20 10:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I finally got my money back


[02-Apr-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/490707-trumps-ambitious-infrastructure-vision-faces-senate-gop-roadblock

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Trump's ambitious infrastructure vision faces Senate GOP roadblock
President Trump faces a clash with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other Senate Republicans over the president’s desire for a $2 trillion infrastructure spending bill, something he promised during his 2016 campaign.
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[02-Apr-20 02:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AGlIiZU4VRiWlfDBEEKxkqQ

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A record 6.6 million Americans filed for unemployment last week — N...
The actual number of unemployed could be much higher, since many applicants had experienced trouble filing a claim, as state labor departments became overwhelmed.
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[02-Apr-20 02:42 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[02-Apr-20 02:54 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
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[02-Apr-20 02:55 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
This is better candidate for Derpi icon


[02-Apr-20 02:55 PM] ImpOfficial#9153
So memeful. :sombralick:


[02-Apr-20 02:58 PM] illumnious#7938
THREAD https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1245696906560487425?s=21

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[02-Apr-20 03:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd say Schumer has a more informed handle on the situation than Trump


[02-Apr-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
an alcoholic hobo is likely to have a more informed handle on the situation, if only because they keep an ear to the ground.


[02-Apr-20 03:49 PM] illumnious#7938
In other news: https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/donald-trump-wont-reopen-obamacare-enrollment-for-uninsured/

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[02-Apr-20 03:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck Trump


[02-Apr-20 03:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucking dumbass Trump


[02-Apr-20 03:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the US jobless rate is now the highest it has ever been in history ever: https://youtu.be/6KFVVKFxr60

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[02-Apr-20 03:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What jobless rate was during the great depression?


[02-Apr-20 03:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
25%


[02-Apr-20 03:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's 30% now


[02-Apr-20 03:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or it's one the warpath to 30% now


[02-Apr-20 03:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
But as of today joblessness claims are at 6.6 million, which is the highest it's ever been


[02-Apr-20 03:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
6.6mil total?


[02-Apr-20 03:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
yes


[02-Apr-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh


[02-Apr-20 03:56 PM] illumnious#7938
This is 1930 all over again but in a virus edition


[02-Apr-20 03:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html

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Millions of Americans already have lost their jobs due to the coronavirus crisis and the worst of the damage is yet to come, according to the Federal Reserve.
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[02-Apr-20 03:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unemployment rate here was 30% for yer 2019


[02-Apr-20 04:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this is definitely expected to raise.


[02-Apr-20 04:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cbs46.com/news/cumming-mayor-makes-surprising-announcement/article_431ff892-7434-11ea-bd7c-2758c91629c9.html

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Cumming Mayor makes surprising announcement
FORSYTH COUNTY, Ga. — Cumming Mayor Troy Brumbalow made a statement Wednesday that had many wondering if it was an April Fools joke.
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[02-Apr-20 04:05 PM] illumnious#7938
A scarf hun? https://twitter.com/politico/status/1245712589914427392?s=21

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https://twitter.com/politico/status/1245712589914427392?s=21
Trump suggests wearing a scarf against coronavirus. The CDC isn’t so sure. https://t.co/JXXSMi0fMm https://t.co/ie80pGz7X0
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[02-Apr-20 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://boston.eater.com/2020/4/1/21201447/insurance-companies-massachusetts-business-interruption-bacterial-viral-outbreaks

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[02-Apr-20 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
from LR <https://youtu.be/xLJ4_CPlCr4>


[02-Apr-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/02/our-dunning-kruger-president-trumps-arrogance-and-ignorance-are-killing-people/

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Our Dunning-Kruger president: Trump's ignorance is killing people
When stupid people think they're smart, they do maximum damage. That's where we are with Trump and the pandemic
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[02-Apr-20 04:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Cumming Mayor


[02-Apr-20 04:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
nice


[02-Apr-20 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[02-Apr-20 04:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Apr-20 04:53 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.salon.com/2020/04/02/our-dunning-kruger-president-trumps-arrogance-and-ignorance-are-killing-people/
@byte[]  finally, that fucking article is perfect

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Our Dunning-Kruger president: Trump's ignorance is killing people
When stupid people think they're smart, they do maximum damage. That's where we are with Trump and the pandemic
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[02-Apr-20 05:00 PM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Apr-20 05:30 PM] jlun2#8758
> Writing at MSNBC, Steven Benen made a valiant effort at cataloguing Trump's claims to preternatural expertise
I read that as "steve banon" at first


[02-Apr-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[02-Apr-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[02-Apr-20 06:58 PM] ononim#8141
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[02-Apr-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/02/ge-aviation-to-lay-off-50percent-its-engine-manufacturing-staff-as-coronavirus-weighs.html

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[02-Apr-20 07:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245396884040097792

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Upon information and belief, Iran or its proxies are planning a sneak attack on U.S. troops and/or assets in Iraq. If this happens, Iran will pay a very heavy price, indeed!
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[02-Apr-20 07:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nice April Fool's joke, Don


[02-Apr-20 07:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hope


[02-Apr-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and here we have our dear leader trying to start shit with iran again


[02-Apr-20 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so I'm not sure if I can/should do anything about this. Tiny problem encountered on my first day back at work (by way of providing "essential services" during an ongoing stay-at-home order)


[02-Apr-20 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Word from on high is we're not allowed to wear masks.


[02-Apr-20 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I kinda understand a tiny bit, it's not like I'm dealing with COVID patients directly and as far as I'm *personally* concerned I'm sequestered in a back room away from direct contact with the riff-raff outside. On the flipside, though, an employee called in 2 days ago to report they'd tested positive


[02-Apr-20 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Plus, all that's open right now besides us is stuff like grocery stores and hospitals so 90% of the people we're serving are nurses (and old folks ignoring the order). So I have reason to believe I'm an order of magnitude more at risk to exposure in the last 4 hours as I have been in the past 14 days


[02-Apr-20 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
On the other hand, it's not like we're packed like sardines forced to sneeze in each others' faces and PPE isn't normally part of the work uniform etc etc so...I don't really know if I've got a "reasonable fear" of coming to work?


[02-Apr-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wait, you're literally *not allowed* to wear masks you hav?


[02-Apr-20 08:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They'd be masks brought in from outside, but yeah, no facial covering of any sort


[02-Apr-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is fukked


[02-Apr-20 08:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so like if I got handy with a sewing machine and made my own, I couldn't wear it


[02-Apr-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get in contact with the media ASAP.


[02-Apr-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Based on what CNN is saying, it seems like some people in the west are catching on that NO MASKS UNLESS HEALTHCARE WORKER is bullshit meant to protect scarcity rather than masks actually providing false senses of security.


[02-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your employer trying to reduce panic by making you avoid basic safety measures is scummy behavior of the highest order.


[02-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And exactly the sort of thing that is why the US is going to be the worst hit by this.


[02-Apr-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a week we'll be number one in deaths btw according to current numbers.


[02-Apr-20 08:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, today was the day my state hit the tipping point of having 0 extra beds and we've got a shortage of about a hundred ICU beds


[02-Apr-20 08:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, misread that, we're *halfway* to the tipping point on regular hospital beds


[02-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you'll be there in 3 days.


[02-Apr-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
my (90 yo) great aunt died last night of covid

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[02-Apr-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
||after she and her husband flaunted the stay at home order for weeks, saying that god and trump would save them||


[02-Apr-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
North Carolina has at least 1,900 reported cases of coronavirus as of Thursday morning, and 16 people have died.

More than 180 people in the state were in the hospital with COVID-19 on Thursday, and more than 28,600 had been tested for the virus, state officials said.

Read more here: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article241695971.html#storylink=cpy


[02-Apr-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
tomorrow I'll be dealing with a different manager and my plan is to bring a mask anyway and we'll see if my problem was with the new manager I've never seen in my life *today,* or if this really is a directive from corporate as he said


[02-Apr-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/02/health/aerosol-coronavirus-spread-white-house-letter/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or ...
A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.
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[02-Apr-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It most likely is a directive from corporate. I recommend recording stuff so you hav good evidence to bring to the media.


[02-Apr-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
If they don't bow to the pressure, make them burn.


[02-Apr-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Apr-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
epic jobs numbers, thanks trumb :+1:

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[02-Apr-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/490829-cuomo-says-new-york-will-exhaust-ventilator-stockpile-in-six-days/


[02-Apr-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Honahue#0656
American's have been taught to love fame so much we're trying to gain immortality by getting into the Darwin Awards as a group

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[02-Apr-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope north carolina doesnt see a rash of redneck idiots trying to "prove their freedom" by going around and trying to get other people infected

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[02-Apr-20 09:12 PM] Honahue#0656
male affection is going to be normalized by a bunch of rednecks trying to prove Corona is a hoax by licking achothers faces


[02-Apr-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Should we call the mass die-off of americans the "stupid holocaust"


[02-Apr-20 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
holocaust dumbolympics


[02-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans must honor the holy pledge to shart in mart


[02-Apr-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess i'm staying locked inside until next thursday if my ppe doesnt come any sooner


[02-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
smol ppe

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[02-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shart in mart is for when norovirus goes crazy.


[02-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is coff in coleslaw.


[02-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You attend a party held by boomers, there's coleslaw. Nobody eats it. It is still there. Nobody covers their mouths when coffing. Soon, all that tried the coleslaw half-heartedly are infected.


[02-Apr-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/490876-trump-company-seeking-to-delay-some-payments-amid-coronavirus-report

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Trump company seeking to delay some payments amid coronavirus: report
The Trump Organization is among the businesses seeking delays on financial obligations amid business closures due to the coronavirus pandemic, the New York Times
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[02-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@WingbeatPony you need to be wearing a tight covering mask and safety goggles if u wanna stay safe


[02-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just regular medical mask wont do


[02-Apr-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If I wanted to stay *safe,* I would've turned down the request to come back to work


[02-Apr-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm just trying to avoid *undue* risk


[02-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
tbh if it was feasible, I would've recommended saying no and taking unemployment if they fire you


[02-Apr-20 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, even when I was at home I expected to be exposed


[02-Apr-20 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but here's part of the equation I haven't mentioned


[02-Apr-20 09:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I knew that if I *didn't* take the offer, someone less dilligent about hygiene and sanitization (and with even less competence when it comes to what I do) would've had to take my place


[02-Apr-20 09:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the tradeoff is I think I might actually be generating a net positive effect in terms of reducing the spread


[02-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
risking your ass for others


[02-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats brave


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
are you wearing a mask though


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
no


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
then it's barely a net positive effect


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do wear gloves at least


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
why exactly you're not allowed to wear a mask


[02-Apr-20 09:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but again, I was rather *surprised* by the directive when I came in today and I intend to press the issue tomorrow


[02-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[02-Apr-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/weather/2020-atlantic-hurricane-season/index.html

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4 major hurricanes are predicted as part of an above-normal 2020 At...
Sixteen named storms, including eight hurricanes, are forecast for the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, according to early predictions released Thursday by experts at Colorado State University.
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[02-Apr-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, we're even more fucked


[02-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
thanks 2020 for finally gving America a taste of the coming Climate Crisis we're infliciting on the rest of the world


[02-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, they can ID and name them 4-6 months ahead of time?


[02-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, climate change is a hoax too.


[02-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
easy to forget about that one with corona.


[02-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/490893-biden-says-his-campaign-is-setting-up-call-with-trump

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Biden says his campaign is setting up call with Trump
Former Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that his aides are working to set up a call between him and President Trump to discuss the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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[02-Apr-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
aand what would that accomplish?


[02-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make it look like a unity thing?


[02-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"He'll reach across the aisle, suburban voter in Pennsylvania, don't worry"


[03-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/feds-distribute-thousands-surgical-masks-gloves-seized-fbi-n1175111

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Feds distribute thousands of surgical masks, gloves seized by FBI
The masks, gloves, gowns and hand sanitizer were seized by the Hoarding and Price Gouging Task Force.
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[03-Apr-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> Hoarding and Price Gouging Task Force.
cant wait for people to complain their "hard earned" face masks profit is getting seized by the evil government


[03-Apr-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
> The Department of Health and Human Services said it will pay the owner of the materials fair market value for the supplies that were confiscated.
oh well


[03-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
well the federal law enforcement does _something_ useful after all. They payed him pre-crisis value which is fair enough.


[03-Apr-20 01:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2020-04-02/dup-councillor-blames-coronavirus-pandemic-on-god-s-judgment-for-legalising-abortion/

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A DUP councillor has apologised for any hurt caused by a social media post he wrote apparently linking the coronavirus pandemic with the legalisation of
abortion and same sex marriage in Northern Ireland.

John Carson represents Ballymena on Mid and East Antrim Council, which ...
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[03-Apr-20 01:49 AM] jlun2#8758
how did uneducated people ever get anything done again??


[03-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
trial and error.


[03-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
you find what sort of works for you and stick with it.


[03-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or if you're like most people


[03-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
your son finds out what works


[03-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
while you die thinking what doesn't work works.


[03-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Humanity overall is good at trial and error, individual people are ass at it.


[03-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the scientific method is to try and organize so we can be a little less bad at it.


[03-Apr-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/825200206/doctors-say-hospitals-are-stopping-them-from-wearing-masks?sc=18&f=1001

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Doctors Say Hospitals Are Stopping Them From Wearing Masks
Health care workers say some hospitals are punishing them for wearing personal protective gear in the halls or that they brought from home.
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[03-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
ooh, 'real virus'


[03-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Opponent#3498
trumpy health administrators. Fun.


[03-Apr-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/navy-expected-relieve-captain-who-raised-alarm-about-covid-19-n1175351

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Navy relieves captain who raised alarm about COVID-19 on ship
The Navy relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about an outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
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[03-Apr-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/secret-service-places-45000-emergency-order-for-golf-carts-in-town-with-trump-property-during-pandemic/

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Secret Service places $45,000 ’emergency order’ for golf carts in t...
On Wednesday, the Washington Post reported that the Secret Service has this week placed a $45,000 “emergency order” to rent golf carts in Sterling, Virginia — where President Donald Trump owns a golf club. The Secret Service says the order is necessary to protect a “dignitary”...
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[03-Apr-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he;s gone golfing again


[03-Apr-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[03-Apr-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quick, while he;s away lock all the white hosue doors so he cant get back in


[03-Apr-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Apr-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
@AaronMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuINRDQ4CpE

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Vocal Synthesis
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Bernie Sanders reads "The Communist Manifesto" (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Bernie Sanders. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[03-Apr-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
:glowing_eyes:


[03-Apr-20 02:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> Babies don't have bones
is it me or everytime I look here americans get dumber and dumber


[03-Apr-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true that babies dont have bones, they;re held together by duct tape and rubber bands


[03-Apr-20 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I like babies because they have no bones


[03-Apr-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boing boing


[03-Apr-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
>  Bruh, you cant just upload a Bernie speech and call it your own


[03-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
>  We have enough problems without handing CNN this free ammunition. Instead of using speech synthesis to make Sanders read The Communist Manifesto, might I suggest using speech synthesis to make Joe Biden speak a coherent sentence?

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[03-Apr-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
no


[03-Apr-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
it's not memey enough for internet points


[03-Apr-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
those are used to buy zoomer/millenial food ok


[03-Apr-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we use speech synthesis to replace trump entirely?


[03-Apr-20 02:39 AM] jlun2#8758
swap his stuff with whatever mark zuck says


[03-Apr-20 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] lol


[03-Apr-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-risking-conflict-with-iran-expanding-sanctions-amid-coronavirus-2020-4

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Trump is risking conflict with Iran and hammering it with sanctions...
Not even a pandemic can stop the ongoing hostilities between the US and Iran, and the risk of conflict is still very real.
https://i.insider.com/5e86500c2d654f516318a703?width=1200&format=jpeg


[03-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Don’t even try this now you goddamn troglodyte


[03-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow rude, have some tact and decency


[03-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What did troglodytes ever do to you?


[03-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/02/insurers-knew-damage-viral-pandemic-could-wreak-businesses-so-they-excluded-coverage/


[03-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Apr-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/04/01/can-coronavirus-be-spread-through-mosquitoes/?outputType=amp

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Can coronavirus be spread through mosquitoes?
Florida’s hot, humid climate means the state tends to be a breeding ground for insects such as mosquitoes and given the current pandemic, many are wondering if those pests can transmit the new coronavirus.
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[03-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
WELL FUCK


[03-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its going to get worst with these assholes isn't it?


[03-Apr-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Opponent#3498
they can't pay for it anyway, why does it matter xD


[03-Apr-20 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-expected-to-tell-all-americans-to-wear-cloth-masks-in-public-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump expected to tell all Americans to wear cloth masks in public:...
The Trump White House is expected to urge Americans to wear cloth face masks when in public to help slow the transmission of coronavirus, in a reversal of current guidelines. The CDC says there is increasing evidence asymptomatic coronavirus carriers may be spreading the virus...
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[03-Apr-20 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay I don't know if that's going to make life *better* or *worse* for people who are trying to wear cloth masks in public just to reduce the chances they'll pick it up. I'm aware that cloth masks are nowhere near as effective as an N95 mask or whatever, but half as effective is still more effective than 0% effective


[03-Apr-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
they might be 0% effective


[03-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably does *something* against those that just projectile sneeze like it's a competition


[03-Apr-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as blocking particulates, absolutely


[03-Apr-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah the classic excuse that insurance can't do what insurance was designed for.


[03-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in the UK they had a huge fire in london, and so fire insurance became a thing. A mandatory thing.


[03-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way if there was ever another huge fire, things were dealt with.


[03-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire excuse that insurance *can't* deal with things being that disastrous is...counter to the very concept.


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Your refrigeration business losing power wasn't a *power outage*, it was non-covered *water damage* because of a flood at the power plant :^) "


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that even if you *do* have an N95 mask, if you work for a certain healthcare network in PA, you may not be allowed to wear it because you didn't get it through the hospital supply (and also you can't wear one if they decide you don't need one)


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole concept is insurance is like an external company keeping money in stokk for emergencies.


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
implying any insurance company today would _ever_ be able to handle it if everyone claimed at once


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what they're meant for.


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
they weasel out of paying _individual_ claims, let alone community claims


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I know what they're meant for


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact they can't handle it is a clear sign they should be removed from existence.


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Insurance companies are parasites preying on fear


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
they need to be either taken over completely or regulatory-whipped into compliance


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also imagine taking this to healthcare.


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Sorry but only the federal gov't can deal with it on this scale"


[03-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you mean like a medicare for all, eh?


[03-Apr-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLJ4_CPlCr4

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[03-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
IMO insurance should be a public service


[03-Apr-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
(clickbait headline, serious discussion)


[03-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
illegal to do privately.


[03-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's become exceptionally clear that insurance of all kinds is just a massive clusterfukk. It can't work for-profit.


[03-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the gov't shouldn't be able to compel you to buy a good that it doesn't provide.


[03-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a recipe for disaster otherwise.


[03-Apr-20 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/02/us/virus-distancing-promo/virus-distancing-promo-threeByTwoMediumAt2X-v5.jpg

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[03-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
thanks Michigan for not being completely shit for once


[03-Apr-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
> The Covid "slump" (read:  depression) will come just in time for the Presidential election.  By November, at the pace things are going, unemployment will almost certainly be in double digits, and all those swing voters that handed Trump the election in 2016 will be swinging, so to speak, by a rope.  Is it too much to hope that in addition to losing the election that Trump may finally, once and for all, lose his shirt?


[03-Apr-20 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/jared-kushner-coronavirus.html

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By Michelle Goldberg
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/jared-kushner-coronavirus.html
Opinion | Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
Trump’s son-in-law has no business running the coronavirus response.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/02/opinion/02goldbergWeb/02goldbergWeb-facebookJumbo.jpg


[03-Apr-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What do you mean? He's done a _stellar_ job brining peace to the middle east!


[03-Apr-20 04:31 AM] jlun2#8758
> The Covid "slump" (read:  depression) will come just in time for the Presidential election.
What do you mean depression? We have the inifinite QE to bail us all out!
||jk||


[03-Apr-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
> Kushner paid $1.8 billion — a record, at the time — for a Manhattan skyscraper at the very top of the real estate market in 2007
nice way to burn 1.8B I guess?


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/ItsReactor/status/1245192351112409090

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(In depth video on my youtube channel coming soon.) In 2015 I started a business by myself called Subverse. Last year, my brother Tim Pool, and Emily Molli stole this business and social media accounts from me. To this day, they still lie about being the founders. Proof: http...
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[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
o shit


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
I already knew tim pool is a grifter, as is the quarterpounder


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
but this is like, a whole new level of grift


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
I hope any cringe 'centrist' right wingers here reconsider their fave youtubers


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
just putting that out there


[03-Apr-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean if you watch steven crowder already you're a subhuman and lost cause


[03-Apr-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[03-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Crowder is probably the funniest person involved in politics because the one thing he did in his life before this


[03-Apr-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
>crowder


[03-Apr-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
>funny


[03-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was be a voice actor for the sycophant Brainy Smurf character no one liked on a PBS show


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe in a cringe compilation yes


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're laughing AT him


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
good


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
that is fine


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
laughing with him is not


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
that is very cringe


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
and unbased


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
he literally has a pet boomer


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny to me because I'd imagine Crowder is exactly how the character he played would turn out as an adult, too.


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
and refuses to actually debate anyone with any competence


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
backs out like a coward


[03-Apr-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
as he is one


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
he can only assault random college kids with loaded questions and 'gotcha' cheap shit


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Idiots don't deserve stages.


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let them seethe that they were denied.


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
he's redic popular and koch brother funded lmao


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's what I don't get


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
people legit find him funny or entertaining or... something


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
and he's the most unfunny and cringe person I know of


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the one joke that it ultimately comes down to


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
who constantly lies and grifts


[03-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fuck women"


[03-Apr-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and of course fuck minorities


[03-Apr-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, but women moreso because women "enable" minorities


[03-Apr-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and time to lie to show how they're bad


[03-Apr-20 05:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now tens of non-symptom infected are found in China everyday, who have no fever or breathing difficulty, but actually got corona and can spread it. Experts warned that they might cause a second explosion of corona in China.

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[03-Apr-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and misread studies and articles that prove you wrong if you read the whole thing :' )


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one in the West, not even the most left-wing people, trust the CCP.


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They lie.


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Steven Crowder, Tim Pool, The Quartering, and similar youtubers are a testament that you can be subhumanly stupid, post incorrect data and anecdotal evidence, and make millions from right wingers


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't forget Black Pidgeon too


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
like every time


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
EVERY VIDEO


[03-Apr-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
I see being reacted to and cringed at


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
every time it hurts me inside a little


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
that people like this


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
implying the CCP is left wing


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
people give them money on they patreons or whatever equivilent they use


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
"communism" is a funny joke


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
it's like how the nazis were socialists


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Gucci 'communism' with authoritarian capitalist characteristics


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Strasser was but


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Gucci gang china


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Strasser was butt


[03-Apr-20 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Strasser was a butt


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Butt


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
Strasser long knives time


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeeted


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey remember how Tim Pool threatened to sue the makers of the Subverse game because he "worked so hard" to build his media empire?


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause I do


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
I cannot believe


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
he grifted his own brother


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
to the point of homelessness


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
and is making bank from it


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
with that brand


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
let alone his own youtube channel already without said brand


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Youtube is cancer


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Right-wing youtube?


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even more so


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
like I know these people are actually this cruel, dishonest and horrible


[03-Apr-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
I knew this


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
but I'm actually shocked


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
don't they value family or some shit?


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people hate their family


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
weren't we ebil left supposed to be destroying the family?


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, they value "family values"


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@dissociativity publically say they do =/= actually do


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which don't value families


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
like making your bro homeless


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
by stealing his brand


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
and making bank from it


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
bruh


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] jlun2#8758
like how they say they're pro-life but totally well at actually letting their families die for stocks


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
like idk if his brother is even a good person


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
pro-life is a lie


[03-Apr-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
it means anti-woman


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it's a abysmal shit act


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't mean pro-life


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only consistent value right-wingers have is hipocrisy


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
pro-life is such a meme because if the kids die after leaving vagina they couldn't care less


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
and they obviously don't care about mothers dying either


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
or kids living in abject american third world poverty


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember when Mississipi banned abortion clinics for a while but refused to also ban the death penalty


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
because to most real first world countries


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I kinda do


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
america is third world


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also a meme because if the pro-life people got what they wanted, they would whine California still offers third trimester abortion


[03-Apr-20 05:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's also said that the price of grains in China will raise up quickly in several months


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite "let states decide" being the whole argument they have


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, food prices are going up in aussieland too


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
@dissociativity go to the south, you can find poverty villages of people living in makeshift huts and trailer homes


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
idk if it's actually anything to do with actual supply issues


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not even "third world compared to europe"


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Let states decide"
*everyone promptly leaves GOP dominated states for blue ones with an actual economy*
"Nooooooo"


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
or grocery stores just price gouging


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's literally just "objectively trash"


[03-Apr-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
because idk, plenty of truck drivers be working still


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 lmao I've actually seen people complain about the "Californication" of Texas and Colorado etc


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, I remember seeing like, lots of trailer parks in america and like


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've never, ever seen it irl in Australia


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it's straight up not a thing other than like


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Vote like how we do or leave" or how that billboard went


[03-Apr-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
beachside holiday home shit


[03-Apr-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
and makeshift homes don't exist at all


[03-Apr-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless you mean the homeless tents in large cities


[03-Apr-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
but even then the american homelessness numbers make anything I thought was bad here look like a joke


[03-Apr-20 05:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USA is just Brazil's slightly more successful twin brother


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't understand why both the dems and republicans want to keep america third world?


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
neoliberalism


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
like bernie getting in could resolve a lot of this shit


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know the rationality but like


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the democrats forgot about their principles and decided to worship money


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
isn't america supposed to have that patriotism meme?


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The more i look at the US, the more it looks like my own country, except with a worse voting system


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
isn't your country not supposed to look like a third world shithole for you to have pride in it?


[03-Apr-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
how the fuck are people still patriotic after seeing that shit?


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
mexico prolly largely looks better than some places in america lmao


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
don't you understand?


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
it's because those people _deserve it_


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That or they'll gaslight and move the goalposts to war veterans or whatever


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The entire point of the country from its founding is to enshrine inequality


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
poor people living in trailer homes and huts are poor because god hates them and wants them to die


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Equality makes the whole system _not_ work


[03-Apr-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
who they're also happy to leave homeless and so unsupported they become schizophrenic stereotyphical 'crazy homeless person'


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
like Bernie could make america first world


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
and people still want biden


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
I just like, idk


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders would be hamstrung by Congress


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Thank you for your service, now languish in poverty and debt and PTSD"


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
I like to refuse people can't be this stupid


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
lol


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and Congress is decidedly neoliberal


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
but presidents do be having that extra power over the years


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
only republicans


[03-Apr-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
and I sure as hell don't want biden using it


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if a democrat does anything that smells unconstitutional, the tea partier impeachment crowd gets fired up


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
trump has literally wiped his ass with the constitution and nothing happened


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
bernie is a gigachad tho


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
he knows how to honey his words and change up bills


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
like with that coronavirus bill reform he did that helped a shittone of workers w it


[03-Apr-20 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's only comparatively a gigachad


[03-Apr-20 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's what every politician should be


[03-Apr-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
truuuu


[03-Apr-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
we're just so used to the neoliberal grifter cesspit


[03-Apr-20 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the pit is so low rn, it makes him seem like a godsend


[03-Apr-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
sanders isn't even that great of a left wing politician tbh


[03-Apr-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
he's supported a bunch of alt med psuedoscience crap


[03-Apr-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He is a left-wing politician in Europe in 1982.


[03-Apr-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's center left in Europe.


[03-Apr-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1245720677660925952
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.....Could be as high as 15 Million Barrels. Good (GREAT) news for everyone!
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[03-Apr-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
so this meeting didn't happen


[03-Apr-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
at all


[03-Apr-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
but crude prices shot up today


[03-Apr-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's coping so hard he's become delusional


[03-Apr-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it feels a little more intentionally evil to me


[03-Apr-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Talking about meetings he didn't have and things that he didn't do


[03-Apr-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's more fit for a cult leader than a politician tbh


[03-Apr-20 06:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That, or he's the latter with a significant undercurrent of the former


[03-Apr-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe it takes more than his brain, but say he directs his political surrogates to buy a bunch of oil stocks while they're low, then announces the supply glut of oil will be closed off, then his surrogates can sell high


[03-Apr-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
does that seem like something he would do?


[03-Apr-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
given that he has actually done this previously, I think so


[03-Apr-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/What-Happens-If-The-World-Runs-Out-Of-Oil-Storage.html

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Oil storage tanks onshore, and offshore are filling up at an unprecedented rate, but what exactly will happen if the world runs out of places to store the oil?
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[03-Apr-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
oil prices have gone negative


[03-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
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sanders isn't even that great of a left wing politician tbh
he's supported a bunch of alt med psuedoscience crap```


[03-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
you know what?


[03-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
**GOOD.**


[03-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
when a person looks too good to be true, they _are_ too good to be true. Add a bit of derp, and it all becomes that much more believeable.


[03-Apr-20 06:52 AM] Opponent#3498
and attractive.


[03-Apr-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
see also: mayor rat


[03-Apr-20 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
remember the wunderkind hype around him when he first hit the scene? HE SPEAKS SEVEN LANGUAGES


[03-Apr-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent I shouldn't be taken to mean that I don't adore and support Sanders


[03-Apr-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
He has done a lot in a really principled way


[03-Apr-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
The alt med stuff is just personally really bothersome


[03-Apr-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
It's fueling an undercurrent of anti-intellectualism which absolutely has to be kicked back


[03-Apr-20 07:29 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-touted-abbott-labs-quick-covid-19-test-but-hhs-document-shows-only-5500-are-on-the-way-for-entire-us/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump touted Abbott Labs’ quick COVID-19 test — but HHS document sh...
A coronavirus test made by Abbott Laboratories and introduced with considerable fanfare by President Donald Trump in a Rose Garden news conference this week is giving state and local health officials very little added capacity to perform speedy tests needed to control the COVI...
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[03-Apr-20 07:29 AM] illumnious#7938
today's stonks

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[03-Apr-20 07:30 AM] illumnious#7938
well shit


[03-Apr-20 08:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-recruits-personal-emails-free-conference-call-channel-nyt-report-2020-4

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[03-Apr-20 08:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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The president said he did not need to use the Defense Production Act to get companies to do what he wants.
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[03-Apr-20 09:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://talkbusiness.net/2020/03/116-million-plan-proposed-to-help-rural-arkansas-hospitals-nurses-and-other-medical-needs/

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$116 million plan proposed to help rural Arkansas hospitals, nurses...
Gov. Asa Hutchinson on Thursday (March 26) rolled out a $116 million plan to support rural hospitals, increase pay for nurses, provide workforce training and other measures as the healthcare...
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[03-Apr-20 10:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-52131940

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Shenzhen becomes first Chinese city to ban eating cats and dogs
The ruling is a tougher version of China's ban of wildlife meat, after it was linked to the virus.
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[03-Apr-20 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Apr-20 01:58 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Tomorrow is Tomb-sweeping Festival


[03-Apr-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tomb sweeping festival?


[03-Apr-20 02:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's when Chinese people sweep the tombs in memory of the deaths


[03-Apr-20 02:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The government will ban all the public entertainment activities in the Tomb-sweeping day ofthis year


[03-Apr-20 02:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
To memorize the deaths of corona


[03-Apr-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope it all goes well for you


[03-Apr-20 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-coronavirus-briefing-federal-stockpiles-blames-states-ventilator-shortages-2020-4

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Jared Kushner — who is operating a 'shadow' coronavirus task force ...
Kushner said that states seeking to address coronavirus equipment shortages can't count on being able to draw on federal stockpiles.
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[03-Apr-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
oh he knows full well why it exists.


[03-Apr-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it exists so that you could enforce the 'two-way street'


[03-Apr-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
and blackmail people into groveling


[03-Apr-20 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
those scrubs made a rookie mistake of paying taxes


[03-Apr-20 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
they deserve to get nothing.


[03-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dm8bx/leaked-amazon-memo-details-plan-to-smear-fired-warehouse-organizer-hes-not-smart-or-articulate

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Leaked Amazon Memo Details Plan to Smear Fired Warehouse Organizer:...
Written notes from the meeting, attended by CEO Jeff Bezos, detail Amazon's strategy to fight union organizing, as well as efforts to obtain COVID-19 tests and protective masks for workers.
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[03-Apr-20 07:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> “He’s not smart, or articulate, and to the extent the press wants to focus on us versus him, we will be in a much stronger PR position than simply explaining for the umpteenth time how we’re trying to protect workers,”
> 
> “We should spend the first part of our response strongly laying out the case for why the organizer’s conduct was immoral, unacceptable, and arguably illegal, in detail, and only then follow with our usual talking points about worker safety,” Zapolsky wrote. “Make him the most interesting part of the story, and if possible make him the face of the entire union/organizing movement.”


[03-Apr-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
workers of the world UNITE


[03-Apr-20 07:35 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Amazon don't give a shit about workers


[03-Apr-20 07:35 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
to them you're expendable


[03-Apr-20 07:35 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
this whole debacle has just been showing how evil they really are


[03-Apr-20 07:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Legality isn't morality. Thus, let us arm the workers and garrison the Amazon warehouses.


[03-Apr-20 07:52 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/investing/globe-advisor/advisor-news/article-its-okay-boomers-your-portfolios-can-survive-this-stock-market/
no pain for the boomers

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It’s okay, boomers – your portfolios can survive this stock market ...
This generation is the first to leave the work force with relatively high exposure to equities, but most have diversified portfolios able to withstand the downturn
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[03-Apr-20 08:05 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/DorsaAmir/status/1246077693889851392?s=20

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Someone added the GameCube intro to my unemployment graph & it’s significantly better now. https://t.co/c35hS74sok
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[03-Apr-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon fucking porkies


[03-Apr-20 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God i want Jeff Bezos' head on a fucking stake


[03-Apr-20 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Apr-20 08:37 PM] RYDE#8862
Sounds like someone is mad here.


[03-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, i'm mad


[03-Apr-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm just mad that these absurdly vile people and organizations can do almost anything they want to vulnerable people without even a slap on the wrist from a complacent system


[03-Apr-20 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i will not rest until justice is brought to the latter


[03-Apr-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i am deeply convinced that there's no other way to teach the rich a lesson than to separate their heads from their bodies


[03-Apr-20 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Apr-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry if i've been a bit euphoric here


[03-Apr-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But... holy fuck, man.


[03-Apr-20 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just can't tolerate so much class fuckery.


[03-Apr-20 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Opponent#3498
rule of law, ladies and gents xD


[03-Apr-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire argument it's making is in favor of rule of law. Rule of law doesn't mean just following the law, but that the law applies to everyone regardless of status. To exclude those at the top is against rule of law.


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
the entire argument it's making is anarchy and breaking the law.


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
revolution


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
etc


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
the law is unjust and doesn't serve us (never mind that the concept of justice is married to lawful)


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
we must reject it


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
For the purpose of putting in place an equal system over an inequal one (monarchism specifically, tho it can be analogized to many modern systems).


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what it's saying


[03-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
no, simply for the purpose of replacing the lords with our own


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The law being unfair is counter to rule of law.


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
"rule of law" means that the law applies to everyone no matter their status


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
unfair is subjective.


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind the thing with Trump and the army.


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
it has nothing to do with there being laws or not to begin with, there is always a "law", whether it's codified or not


[03-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
When a guy resigns by refusing to carry out a legal order Trump has made protecting someone from punishment because that someone enacted stuff against a brown person, citing "rule of law".


[03-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is not saying that the problem is the law was broken by Trump, or by that someone.


[03-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is saying that the problem is that Trump is using legal means to undermine fairness in enforcement to benefit the privileged over the unprivileged.


[03-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Unfair" for these purposes refers to differential treatment by stature.


[03-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is nothing possibly subjective in that.


[03-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
if the law has tiers of punishment written in it explicitly or otherwise (@ Crow), and applies different versions of itself to different tiers equally, it's still 'fair' by this definition


[03-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's blatantly misunderstanding the construction.


[03-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
people 'expect' the rich to get away with things. It's basicly an unwritten law.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
so it works.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rule of law does not fukking care what is written to justify the unfairness.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, Trump protecting that guy was 100% within the law.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
yes. Only what is written, period.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was legal.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was written.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no innocense. Only degrees of guilt :3


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I used to see it your way btw.


[03-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
fair equal 'common' law


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a pipe dream.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody says "rule of law" when they want workers on strike to go bakk to work, when the strike is considered illegal.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
best you can do is reject it. Resign a position like this guy did.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that rule of law exists fully.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
get away from the system and survive.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that "rule of law" *doesn't mean* some bullshit used to enforce the actual written law.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
blessed are the few who can actually do it.


[03-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It refers to a concept of how the law is to be applied.


[03-Apr-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if that concept is unachievable, it still does not refer to the unequal reality.


[03-Apr-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The right deals with saying "enforce this unequal law" by deflecting and not even making an argument, just saying "yeah we'll do what the process is" etc.


[03-Apr-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't go "rule of law".


[03-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
and the left go 'fuck what's legal, we'll make our own law with blackjack and hookers'


[03-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no political entity, or movement, or philosophy, that would use 'rule of law' as it's basis


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
better yet, I can hardly imagine there would be one.


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making your own law is the entire point of rule of law...you can't hav rule of law with a shitty legal system.


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, Lenin's version of SU _might_ become one. Kind of part of their original idea.


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
but that's about it.


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to build a system where the law doesn't bend to people with money.


[03-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Opponent#3498
and even then their idea clashed harshly with reality from the go.


[03-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
the law would bend to people with some other advantages though. Can you imagine someone writing a law that would harm or restrict themselves more than they'd like?


[03-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to make the system not bend like that is why people say "rule of law".


[03-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you cannot hav just anyone *write* the law.


[03-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you especially shouldn't involve writing it in secret.


[03-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it is possible to separate people in a way that who writes it isn't that swayed by the effects of it.


[03-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can hav people in charge whose entire job is to just provide data to determine how laws are written.


[03-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can also segregate legislatures like Canada does


[03-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
(non-partisan Senate that makes amendments to bills)


[03-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will never be perfect but that doesn't mean you shouldn't *try*.


[03-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US right now is trying very little.


[03-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
I'm running for president! A vote for me is a vote to decriminalize incest.

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[03-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too much time under the Koch Brothers.


[03-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Opponent#3498
oh hey there. I'd say small world but this is derpi server.


[03-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OK President Pornhub


[03-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no no, stepsibling incest is generally legal.


[03-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's president Alabama.


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
ACTUALLY


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Incest is a criminal offence in the state of Alabama and the vast majority of the United States, with the sole exceptions being Rhode Island, New Jersey, Ohio and Illinois. And even then, it is conditional.


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
How is that defined tho?


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872

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[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Different states hav different things.


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some allow 1st cousin marriages, some don't.


[03-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
correct


[03-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://legalbeagle.com/12307129-states-illegal-marry-stepsiblings.html

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In What States Is It Illegal to Marry Step-Siblings?
States regulate marriage between blood relatives, and incest is a crime in all 50 states. Only Virginia has a specific law making it illegal for step-siblings to marry, regardless of whether the parental relationship has ended. For most people this would be a moral question ra...
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[03-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
'In all but one state, step-siblings are legally free to get married. Virginia takes a different approach, and step-siblings cannot marry in the state even if their parents are no longer together. Under Virginia law, it makes no difference how long the parents have been divorced or even whether the couple ever lived together as step-siblings.'


[03-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Love how the one exception that at first seems sane is in fact utterly retarded.


[03-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Virginia is apparently *NOT* for lovers.


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
In theory a vengeful parent could actually invalidate a marriage by marrying their child's spouse's parent.


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
i don't think it works retroactively.


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but get to it before the license is granted.


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. Illegal in Ukraine. That said, I'd bet this is treated like everything else here, don't bother anyone with it and you'll be fine.


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
ah


[03-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could make a terrible romantic comedy out of this.


[03-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
yes


[03-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I love Italy's coloring on that map.


[03-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS IT MAKES HEADLINES


[03-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Italy has some pretty shitty laws.


[03-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
well sure. They're Europe's wang.


[03-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I like that line of thinking though.


[03-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how it's generally treated in practice, they just explicitly written it down


[03-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Current studies in the US estimate that incest is on a steep incline. But the vast majority of it is consensual and goes unreported. (Part of what makes estimating its pervasiveness so difficult, as those practicing it aren't particularly forthcoming) Generally the only time it comes to light is when it is involved with another charge like rape or abuse. Also part of the reason for its stigma by association.


[03-Apr-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
oh dear it's shakespearicles


[03-Apr-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
two horsefamous individuals in a day


[03-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Before Isaac, before Abraham, **I AM**.


[03-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
But back to what I was saying. Running theories for this incline is the increase in time families are spending at home and not 'outside playing with friends'. As they enter puberty the relationships they form with their siblings morph into romantic (read sexual) feelings. The Pornhub phenomenon is a bit of a self feeding loop. viewers seeking incest porn, leading to the production of more incest porn leading to more people into incest. Normalizing it in a way. (Morality of this effect aside).


[03-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Funny enough, teen pregnancies are on a sharp decline in the united states. Adolescents are being smarter about safe sex. So the obvious objection to incest is mitigated by eliminating the possibilities of inbreeding.


[03-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out all that BS to keep kids from having sex with their classmates may not hav been a good idea when other factors keep them from meeting them.


[03-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Precisely.


[03-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
What I really wonder is what will happen two generations down.


[03-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The extreme drop in interest of sex due to becoming well-off is obviously not sustainable.


[03-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And third-world countries are catching up, so there won't be constantly more poor-off people to replace.


[03-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is really whether we rapidly evolve to become super-horny.


[03-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or whether we stop it with societal measures first.


[03-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
The global population is set to be stabilizing in the next 20 years because of this. In most of the 1st world, it already has. and in fact, the birth rate in japan is abysmally low.


[03-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
who was the other horse famous person


[03-Apr-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
twisty


[03-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
it's super busy today, can't keep up


[03-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
tbf I don't know most who most horse famous people are


[03-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Societal measures btw would need advanced tech to keep up.


[03-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stuff like "hav a baby and we'll giv you a million dollars" just won't do it.


[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
you cant just 'have a baby' you need to raise it to adulthood too.


[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but the state could do that easy.

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[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
oh no


[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hard part is making women get pregnant and carry it to term.


[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't scale enuff to sustain the population.


[03-Apr-20 09:53 PM] illumnious#7938
oof

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[03-Apr-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
1%


[03-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
So in short, that is why I'm running for president.


[03-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have a question: 
Why do you want children?


[03-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
I do not.


[03-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And why?


[03-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
I am precluded from loving anyone more than I love myself.


[03-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
Which is a requirement of a good parent.


[03-Apr-20 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
I love myself a lot

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[03-Apr-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont want children because i;m barely fit to take care of myself, the economy would be a future and present nightmare for them, the educational system is abyssmal since it started running itself as a business rather than an institution decades ago, I can't afford a house, so i wouldnt expect them to be able to either, the job market is a present nightmare, oh god the medical things, and i just dont want children


[03-Apr-20 10:00 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
also children are annoying


[03-Apr-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I just can't mentally do it


[03-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's what more intelligent people come to.


[03-Apr-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also dont handle stress well at all


[03-Apr-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children would stress me the fuck out


[03-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it worth to give away 20 years of your life and countless money for... what?


[03-Apr-20 10:02 PM] Shakespearicles™#3872
someone who can take the responsibility to bury you


[03-Apr-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also have adhd, which would mean thye likely would too and the special education is even worse than the normal education...


[03-Apr-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Money you save on kids is money you can use for a decent retirement home


[03-Apr-20 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i can even save up that


[03-Apr-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
neoliberalism has broken our backs


[03-Apr-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
millenials and zoomers are the permanent debt generation


[03-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And so we must tear out its spine.


[03-Apr-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
boomers take all of the assets


[03-Apr-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
and then dump all the liability on us


[03-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ancient societies would often just decide one day to forgive all debt when this happens.


[03-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause otherwise things spiral into ruin.


[03-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
With so much debt, people can't really do anything except accrue more and then economic activity shuts down entirely.


[03-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now the fed can just pump more money to give to rich people whenever the poor people die without paying off their debt


[03-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
At some point, the indebted become too numerous.


[03-Apr-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
haha money printer go brrr


[03-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's very possible that this pandemic was the last straw.


[03-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that even if we all went out virus-free today and such


[03-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
that the massive job losses and such put enuff people into debt that spending can't return to normal.


[03-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What does it take for a civization to vanish nowadays?


[03-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And thus entire industries would go bust


[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism might've finally burned itself out.


[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the only option will be to prop up wages.


[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The people in power will literally slaughter thousands in the streets to make sure the system doesn't change


[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Donnan_S/status/1245767701777256448

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This is absolutely jaw dropping from the @BBC https://t.co/ATKVUVscf8
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[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/onalifeglug/status/1246013855244914688

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BBC News 2020, The Day Today 1994
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[03-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And everyone will be too busy surviving to unite and do anything about it


[03-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hell, it's real


[03-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1245735155978952704

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500,000 people could have died, by August, in the UK if no action was taken

Now it's hoped social distancing will limit deaths to 20,000

But that doesn't mean 480,000 lives are being saved, many people who die from Covid-19 would have died anyway

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[03-Apr-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie I have no hope for a popular uprising


[03-Apr-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just hope everything collapses to a point where money printer going brrr is meaningless and does nothing to prop up anything


[03-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, no uprising could really work right now.


[03-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, whole industries will completely collapse.


[03-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't can't prop up even a fraction of them.


[03-Apr-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the money printer going brr can only do it for so long before it burns out under the stress


[03-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Last known civilization that vanished, was USSR...


[03-Apr-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the way that was taken out ended up being a slow burn on the US


[03-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
Here have another validation post


[03-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theroot.com/jared-kushner-is-a-goddamn-idiot-1842661733

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Jared Kushner Is a Goddamn Idiot
On Thursday—and I didn’t think this was possible—President Trump handed the mic to someone who is actually dumber and less qualified than the president, his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
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[03-Apr-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-75-percent-workforce-exempted-from-paid-sick-leave-2020-4

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[03-Apr-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Every time you think it can't get worse


[03-Apr-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
It gets worse


[03-Apr-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
The administration is, just as usual, making the worst possible move in every situation


[03-Apr-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
But this time, it won't be a "haha funny libs owned" scenario


[03-Apr-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
playing it;s trump cards left and right in the msot harmful ways imaginable


[03-Apr-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dhhs-rewrites-national-stockpile-definition-to-not-contradict-kushner-2020-4

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The Department of Health and Human Services rewrote its definition ...
Kushner on Thursday made claims about the function of the US emergency stockpile that were contradicted by the HHS website. Then it changed.
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[03-Apr-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://t.co/HnE0m7fpgQ?amp=1

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[03-Apr-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-mask-shipment-to-berlin-germany-diverted-united-states-report-2020-4

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The reported diversion of 200,000 protective masks intended for healthcare workers and emergency staff in Berlin was called "an act of modern piracy."
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[03-Apr-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/small-business-coronavirus-loan-rate-doubled-after-small-banks-complain-2020-4

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The US government doubled the interest rate on coronavirus bailout ...
The move came after smaller banks reportedly said they couldn't afford to give loans from the government-mandated program at the lower rate.
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[03-Apr-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jdmaccoby/status/1246036566423801857?s=19

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[Donald Trump, Titanic captain]

1. There is no iceberg 
2. We won’t hit the iceberg
3. We barely touched the iceberg
4. Nobody could’ve seen the iceberg 
5. These deaths mean my plan worked
6. I’m the best captain ever
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[03-Apr-20 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/GBeckingham/status/1246116483786100737

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@jdmaccoby @HNTurtledove First officer Kushner: "They're not passenger lifeboats. They weren't meant to be used by the passengers. They're our lifeboats."
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[03-Apr-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) too bad they're going to get arrested after the pandemic


[03-Apr-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and possibly during the pandemic when trump decides they've outstayed their welcome


[03-Apr-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or some ice agents get too itchy to resist


[03-Apr-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/9_volt_/status/1246061931636588544

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[03-Apr-20 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JuvenileBluster/status/1246083522865041408

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@BadLegalTakes Being able to see panty shots of video game characters is a clearly established constitutional right, as decided in Mario v. Princess Peach, 420 U.S. 1985
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[03-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Emporium Capwell Co. v. Western Addition_, 420 US 50, 69 (1975)


[03-Apr-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-fox-news-hosts-pressure-trump-end-lockdowns-reopen-economy-2020-4

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'It is everywhere already': Fox News hosts amp up the pressure on T...
Primetime host Tucker Carlson attacked "the public health establishment," which he argued "failed us badly" by recommending stay-home orders that are hurting the economy.
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[03-Apr-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great, fox news wants people dead too


[03-Apr-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, when do they not want to kill people for political ratings


[03-Apr-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the death toll has apparently passed 7k in the US today


[04-Apr-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean large amounts of trump supporters will be going outside? because im fine with tht


[04-Apr-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Instead, we outsourced the decision to public health officials."


[04-Apr-20 12:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
America, circa June 2020. Colorized:
https://youtu.be/cQbRLkM98G0

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LISA: The Pointless - Land (Downtown Infinity Version)
Music by Taitoki https://soundcloud.com/taitoki
Link to game: http://gamejolt.com/games/lisa-the-pointless/221705
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[04-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope Carlson one day is sick and is treated by a "doctor" with no credentials.


[04-Apr-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Self aware wolves on r/Conservative https://i.redd.it/gezhpnz99mq41.jpg

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[04-Apr-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What even is a police power


[04-Apr-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain bought ventilator components from China and shipped them to be assembled in Turkey


[04-Apr-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Turkey decided to keep them all

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[04-Apr-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-disrupting-red-light-camera-company-revenue-2020-4

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[04-Apr-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
This business model should be prima facie illegal


[04-Apr-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A whole lot of things should be illegal, alas


[04-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Red light cameras objectively make things _less_ safe.


[04-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of catching speeders, you're now responding to crashes at intersections constantly.


[04-Apr-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
They got it right for once


[04-Apr-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Socialism _is_ based


[04-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/03/broadband-engineers-threatened-due-to-5g-coronavirus-conspiracies

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EE suspects telephone mast engulfed by fire in Birmingham was an arson attack as celebrities claim Covid-19 caused by new network
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[04-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never, ever, underestimate human stupidity


[04-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
5G is remotely vaccinating children and must be stopped


[04-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😤 🚫 💉


[04-Apr-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/BJ7cZTyN3SE

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[04-Apr-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491124-trump-spars-with-reporter-over-kushners-our-stockpile-remark

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[04-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, watched it live, was cringe


[04-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should not criticize the media unless it goes to an incredible extreme


[04-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should not criticize private business or institutions of government either, really


[04-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Best part is watching FOX go "Wow, CNN won't cover the president's live pressers" at the same time they absolutely ignore everything he says bar the pure policy changes


[04-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of my conservative, texan family went from either having voted for Trump in 2016 or voting blank (but still voting GOP for state) to "I would shoot this moron if given the chance" in the space of two months


[04-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[04-Apr-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/us/politics/coronavirus-brett-crozier-theodore-roosevelt.html

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The rousing show of support provided another gripping scene to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic: the rank and file cheering a boss they viewed as putting their safety ahead of his career.
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[04-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chain of command doesn't mean shit when the top link is a loop of oily shit


[04-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the rungs under it are either sycophants or cowards


[04-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Treascair#7785
Okay, I feel I can safely weigh in on this one, as my husband's military, and I *could not grok this decision for the life of me*, so he explained it


[04-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Treascair#7785
to wit:  It's not that he was complaining to his leadership about the infection, it's the fact that, as a matter of military decorum, *he panicked*, and he knew better than to make the Navy writ large look like they didn't know what the hell they were doing. His letter getting out into the public sphere means that there's the perception that the Navy's trying to cover shit up, when it's actually the case that he didn't proceed through his proper chain of command.


[04-Apr-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru you joke, but magic thinking drove me nuts when I was younger


[04-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Treascair#7785
So from a Navy standpoint, he Dun Fucked Up


[04-Apr-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
and yet, they made themselves look like villains


[04-Apr-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[04-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Treascair#7785
from a civilian standpoint (i.e., mine), he did the right thing, but as a matter of military standard, he went about it in the wrong way for the right reasons.  So they couldn't let it go, or that then gives carte blanche to all the other Naval personnel to just flaunt the rules as they like.


[04-Apr-20 02:42 AM] Treascair#7785
From a civvie view, yes, the Navy leadership looks like a bunch of baddies.  From a military view, this is EXACTLY how you go about punishing a lapse in judgement that egregious.


[04-Apr-20 02:42 AM] Treascair#7785
unfortunately, unless you're also military, you tend to not grasp that perspective.  I didn't until this morning when my husband explained the logic.


[04-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Under typical circumstances I can understand that, but this pandemic... isn't exactly a typical circumstance. :shrugpony:


[04-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Treascair#7785
No, but military are also trained to respond *correctly* in instances like these.  And he, effectively, flailed and couldn't keep his composure, and what should have been private correspondence became public... and that just makes you look *really, really bad*, and therefore the organization as a whole. So it's sorta 'making an example of what not to do', and sorta 'you did exactly as you were trained to NOT do'.


[04-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Treascair#7785
like I said, he derped hard enough they couldn't just let it slide.


[04-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he panikked.


[04-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a whistleblower pattern if I've ever seen one.


[04-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe a culture of being dishonest isn't the best thing to have


[04-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, he deliberately sent the letter to people that weren't directly the next link up the chain.


[04-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that the one directly next up couldn't just ignore it.


[04-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so that even those at the very top of the chain couldn't.


[04-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind the commander in chief right now is a sakk of shit that has tried to stop many important measures as this has gone on.


[04-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not out of the question that Trump was trying to prevent any action being taken about navy ships and had such orders secretly filtered down all the way to this captain.


[04-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even if the guy directly above the captain wasn't being shitty, there might be further problems keeping stuff down.


[04-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the letter leaking to the media, it was likely done by one of the ones he gave the letter to.


[04-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either an overzealous one wanting to make sure action was taken...or one of the ones trying to prevent action being taken, in order to make sure the captain got fired once they realized action being taken was inevitable.


[04-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure he'll get a nice job speaking at the Democratic National Convention and/or CNN


[04-Apr-20 03:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Does this count as an American version Li Wenliang?...


[04-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans don't get arrested for this.


[04-Apr-20 03:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, today all the Chinese websites turns into black and white


[04-Apr-20 03:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Apr-20 03:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Last time I saw this is Sichuan earthquake


[04-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Treascair#7785
"That is, he deliberately sent the letter to people that weren't directly the next link up the chain." <- and this is the problem. You CANNOT do this and maintain military decorum.  So he rightfully got punished in accordance with military laws.


[04-Apr-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Decorum, really


[04-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Treascair#7785
yes


[04-Apr-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does military law cover instances in which "decorum" is okay to drop


[04-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Treascair#7785
if you panic and you're a damn Admiral? *you very much know better*


[04-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Treascair#7785
you are the person that younger, less seasoned soldiers and sailors look to for guidance, and if you're doing something that isn't within your purview? you're really asking for everything within the chain of command to fall apart.


[04-Apr-20 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if you're 2+ steps higher than an admiral in the chain of command you damn well know better than to leak such a sensitive memo to the public


[04-Apr-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I don't see any teeth being gnashed about tracking down whoever *that* was


[04-Apr-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nope, it's all landing squarely on his shoulders for being a whistleblower


[04-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Treascair#7785
... he's not a whistleblower


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Treascair#7785
he went outside his chain of command, violated Naval standards, and put the letter on blast to people outside said chain of command


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
do you know what the memo even says?


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Treascair#7785
yes, I do.


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So you suspect that he himself is the one who leaked the memo


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Treascair#7785
nope


[04-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Treascair#7785
that isn't what I said, don't put words in my beak


[04-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Treascair#7785
There's no way to determine who leaked that memo, of the 20 or 30 people he sent it out to beyond said chain of command


[04-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Treascair#7785
the fact that he did not keep it within said chain is where he fucked up


[04-Apr-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So if I'm understanding the situation correctly, the *only* party he could've sent this memo to and maintained decorum is his direct superior


[04-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Treascair#7785
correct.  And then waited for a response.


[04-Apr-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet you are trying to claim that his actions aren't whistleblower-esque


[04-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Treascair#7785
... because it's not.


[04-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Treascair#7785
Instead of waiting for a response, he tossed it out to a bunch of folks, jumped his own chain of command (which isn't good in its own right and WILL get you cited according to the UCMJ) and didn't own his fuckup


[04-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Treascair#7785
according to Naval policy, he screwed up, and got punished for his lapse in judgement


[04-Apr-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if he never got a response, he ought to have done nothing, correct?


[04-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Treascair#7785
if he never got a response, he was to proceed with current DOJ guidance on the matter, yes.


[04-Apr-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is that what current DOJ guidelines state he should have done?


[04-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Treascair#7785
'wait for further instruction from superior officer, if none is given, proceed as previously instructed', correct.


[04-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Treascair#7785
that applies to any soldier, sailor, marine or airman.


[04-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what if your superior officer denies to take action?


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
On something that will destroy your ship's military readiness?


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just...let that shit happen?


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Treascair#7785
then you proceed as current DOJ guidelines dictate that you were already given.  The higher your rank, the less flexibility you actually have.


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the problem.


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Trump's DOJ


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Treascair#7785
that's not the Admiral's decision to make


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav to shoot Trump himself in the head


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
to get your ship's sikk taken to a hospital.


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then that is what you do.


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Treascair#7785
So! Lemme get this right, Nebbie!


[04-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a gun.


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Treascair#7785
are you fucking advocating murder


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And as many bullets as it takes.


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If murder is what it takes to save the lives of more crewmen? Absolutely.


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And again we are back to the problem of, if it's not his decision to make, then you've got the ADDITIONAL problem of a 2-star or higher admiral abdicating his duty as well


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully all it took this time was a letter.


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but zero heat being directed at him


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Treascair#7785
Right.  hey @byte[] @Crow @Teaspoon you might want to do something about Nebbie advocating for violence against military personnel and government officials


[04-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Advocating murder"


[04-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the military


[04-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Treascair#7785
"If you hav to shoot Trump himself in the head" that's pretty fucking blatant, innit?


[04-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's, like, the whole point of the military


[04-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
is that sometimes you need to kill people to prevent worse shit from happening.


[04-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Military is there to use violence to defend citizens


[04-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Treascair#7785
so you're okay with people saying "go ahead and shoot military personnel and political leaders you disagree with"


[04-Apr-20 03:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, treascair, I hope you never try to explain this point of view to Captain Crozier's crewmembers


[04-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In order to save innocents? Hell yes


[04-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm an Army spouse, Wingbeat.  I had this explained to me clearly


[04-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting is usually not necessary to achieve political changes.


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Treascair#7785
the fact you don't like it is NOT my problem


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Treascair#7785
take it up with the DOJ


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'll have to be added to the list


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Treascair#7785
don't like who's running it? vote


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
William Barr is not an elected official


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People voted, the guy that lost won


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Treascair#7785
and the next president that gets elected can toss Barr out on his ass


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, well it's my personal opinion that everyone currently working at the DOJ be locked in a cell and never see the light of day again


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why not this one


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy that lost is now taking a multitude of actions that are increasing the deaths.


[04-Apr-20 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh right he *appointed* him


[04-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Barr, who is in charge of the DOJ, has repeatedly violated the law.


[04-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And advocated for theories of law that run counter to basic common sense.


[04-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Treascair#7785
then go right ahead and point firearms at military personnel and see how far that gets you, Nebbie.  *have fun, tell me how that works out for you*


[04-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
People need to stand up to him, and thankfully there are ways short of the most extreme, but if it comes down to it, the most extreme are something that should be used.


[04-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Trump told the military to nuke the US, then just saying "yeah sure" isn't a course of action that should even be considered.


[04-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DoJ prosecutors that resigned over Stone did the right thing.


[04-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the chain of command tho


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has repeatedly fukked over military men for defying him when he was trying to fukk with stuff.


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Stone thing made me realize that like


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't realize that anything other than "maim or kill someone" should be crimes


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
A guy committed fukking war crimes and Trump wanted him rewarded for it.


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I heard people say lying to Congress shouldn't be a crime.


[04-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because we liv in a society, resigning is often the course of action that does the most.

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[04-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm not saying I agree with most of this.  It's that, as a Naval officer, Captain Crozier *screwed up* and got punished according to the UCMJ.  If you really wanna go incite some fucking violence, good luck to ya.


[04-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and it doesn't do very much)


[04-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes the right thing to do in the military is to defy your orders.


[04-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
To break the rules to do what is right.


[04-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is in the end the ultimate test of an officer.


[04-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well Nebbie, precedent. The next Democratic president could say "This guy should fry!" when he's subject to military justice and it wouldn't be seen as going beyond their authority.


[04-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Captain Crozier passed.


[04-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stanislav Petrov did too.


[04-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To a major degree, but sometimes you can't follow rules and orders.


[04-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean with "this guy should fry"?


[04-Apr-20 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and a word of advice? Identifying yourself as an "army spouse" is a sure-fire way to *lose* sympathy when you try to defend the viewpoint that Captain Crozier is in the wrong


[04-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the president getting someone executed?


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Treascair#7785
I'm saying I'm familiar with military standards, Wingbeat.


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not like we don't have more military here


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean like


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Treascair#7785
by military standards under the UCMJ, Crozier was in the wrong.


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, we get that


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
morally, he was almost certainly in the right


[04-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't accept military standards in and of themselves as dictating morality.


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Treascair#7785
morally, yes, he was right


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Treascair#7785
legally, he was wrong


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some guy get accused of war crimes, military justice is started, and the president says "Oh yeah this guy is guilty as fuck"


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
and the law should change


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, that's ghoulish; seeing more and more TV ads pop up for quick life insurance and loans to pay for funerary expenses


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Treascair#7785
good example, my hubby jumped the chain of command once because he panicked over not getting certain info.


[04-Apr-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
what is #politics if not a discussion of what should be lawful


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, and that's the difference


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Treascair#7785
he got wrecked for it by his superior officer


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think the captain panikked.


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No part of what Crozier did here looks like panic


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
who panic-sends a mass email


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
particularly in its wording


[04-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in which he called for *preventative* action


[04-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Treascair#7785
*shrugs* I'm just going by my husband's perspective.  I don't have the ability to judge for myself because I haven't been in that position. So... second hand info on my part.


[04-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Implying the US isn't #1 in all aspects is treason, Wing


[04-Apr-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine selling out the interests of the country for a chinese national


[04-Apr-20 03:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're #1 in treason!


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we #1 in deaths yet?


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wait, we need another 5 days to pass Spain, don't we?


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Italy is


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
but don't worry, the US will be having multiple 9/11s per day in about a month


[04-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, we need at least 6 days to pass Italy too.


[04-Apr-20 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we had the deadliest day so far today (again)


[04-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
#winning


[04-Apr-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> I don't know if it's nihilism, masochism, or pure petty retribution, but _bring it on_. I feel like the harder we get hit by unfeeling, uncaring reality, the _fairness_ of the disease itself, the more we all get to face the consequences of the unfairness that's been thrust upon us by negligent and malicious leadership (or lack thereof)


[04-Apr-20 03:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So why the fuck is it spreading so quickly in the US


[04-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because americans think we're invulnerable


[04-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the central government is incompetent, leading to local governments, down to the county level, deciding what should be done


[04-Apr-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang americans are #1 in magical thinking


[04-Apr-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
they think the christian god will save them


[04-Apr-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
among other things


[04-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meaning no travel restrictions for the majority of the country and wildly different guidelines and rules from town to town


[04-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are loads of people that look at this "social distancing" stuff and take it as an affront against the "core" of america and organize massive group events


[04-Apr-20 03:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
...


[04-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And nothing much can be done against most, because in most places these things are just "public recommendations"


[04-Apr-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, will the situation turns good in this month?


[04-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[04-Apr-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it'll be worse


[04-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll start hitting towns with no hospitals


[04-Apr-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
the US has the most increases in cases per day and is _just_ starting its incline


[04-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
By late April there could be 300k dead.


[04-Apr-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
in a month from now the daily death count will be multiple 9/11s


[04-Apr-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
that's _per day_


[04-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
All we can hope is that this kills so many Boomers that it makes an impact on who gets elected.


[04-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It likely won't


[04-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since it's the Boomer candidates that don't want to take shit like this seriously.


[04-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"wartime president"


[04-Apr-20 03:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... I'll ask my mom to store enough food then


[04-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's made it a point to appear in every task force presser as the main event, at the time most local TV station put out their news


[04-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's making himself the protagonist, supressing local news about the virus, and cheerleading himself for over an hour while denying and shouting down any journalist that disagrees


[04-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Come November the narrative will be that the man on TV was the only thing that saved the country from 1mil dying instead of just 500k


[04-Apr-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
<https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-im-doing-a-great-job-fighting-the-coronavirus-and-100000-of-you-will-die>
> Sunday, the president said that 100,000 deaths would be a great win. Only in the world of Trumpian dumbfuckery could anyone brighter than a toaster oven think 100,000 avoidable deaths is a win. That’s like saying, “Hey, honey, I went to the strip club, caught an STD, knocked up a stripper named Destynee, and got a second mortgage to bail her meth tweaker boyfriend out of jail… but at least I didn’t touch the kids’ college fund.”


[04-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
*touch our retirement savings
The kids' college fund was the first to go well before that escapade


[04-Apr-20 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe a better analogy would be "I didn't scratch the car"


[04-Apr-20 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause the only thing he's really preserving is stuff that's "his"


[04-Apr-20 04:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Apr-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Paying respect for 3 minutes


[04-Apr-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
F


[04-Apr-20 04:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
F


[04-Apr-20 04:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok, finished


[04-Apr-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[04-Apr-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
> why aren't your people revolting
I ask the same thing for Americans all the time


[04-Apr-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The situation for most is never "bad enough"


[04-Apr-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
ok. I wonder will that ever change?


[04-Apr-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[04-Apr-20 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially not when they're being told it's better than ever


[04-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my professors made a point that the US likely won't fall to a dictator because separation of powers


[04-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just said in the chat "Uh, Weimar Germany?"


[04-Apr-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[04-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
rekt.


[04-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other people said "Well Weimar Germany was a new democracy"


[04-Apr-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do they really think one day there's democracy and sunshine and will of the people and then overnight some nazi thug takes over


[04-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Listen, for that to happen again we'd need to have gone through a long war, a depression, a pandemic, and a massive loss of standing in the internation- oh

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[04-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump being on the news so much is why he's been getting an approval bump btw.


[04-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
During a crisis, retards look to whoever's in charge and hear them speak and go MMM YES COMFORT and don't think.


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The serpent's eggs have already hatched


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment that's over, if things stay in the news, it falls.


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He gets a lot of random news clips of "Everything's fine, we're fixing it!" with him there


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My mom is frequently a center-lefty but she is displaying some symptoms of what you're describing


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And people just go "HE MAN WHO FIX! HE GOOD!"


[04-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically if by August it's not daily Trump news and people are still talking about what happened then Trump's approval will drop like a rokk.


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She's a director in an english lang school and co-owns the place with my stepmom


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When Jair Bolsonaro said on tv that the economy should continue working, she agreed with him


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeesh.


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She is that scared of losing her business bucks


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My parents were pretty strong lifelong Republicans until Obama. Hate Trump a lot.


[04-Apr-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism is a reaction to having power.


[04-Apr-20 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even despite herself knowing and admitting the school isn't profitable as of now


[04-Apr-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why small business owners are almost invariably prikks


[04-Apr-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
having that money makes them stop caring about others and just see them as pieces to use


[04-Apr-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything becomes about retaining that money.


[04-Apr-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil is still taking a while to approve UBI for coronavirus


[04-Apr-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fear of loss of what you own is a really, really powerful motivator.


[04-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Castro stole my slaves/Soviets took my ponies/Mao took my grandpa's egg monopoly"


[04-Apr-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always treat "small business owner" to mean someone's likely evil.


[04-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
As theoretically important as competition is, in practice we're past the point small businesses can grow.


[04-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
People running them rely on all kinds of horrid bullshit to keep going.


[04-Apr-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I never interact with the school's workers so i'll perhaps never know what their grievances are


[04-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's survival of the cruelest.


[04-Apr-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for small businesses to get automated away


[04-Apr-20 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And gobbled up by Jeff Bezos?


[04-Apr-20 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh all corporations should die, yeah


[04-Apr-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/trump-fires-inspector-general-michael-atkinson/index.html

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Trump fires intelligence community watchdog who told Congress about...
President Donald Trump on Friday removed Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson -- who had told Congress about the whistleblower complaint that led to Trump's impeachment -- from his post, the President told Congress in a letter obtained by CNN.
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[04-Apr-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
good job


[04-Apr-20 04:55 AM] illumnious#7938
https://rawstory.com/2020/04/heres-how-trumps-hunt-for-medical-protective-equipment-is-causing-chaos-across-the-globe/

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Here’s how Trump’s hunt for medical protective equipment is causing...
On Friday, Politico examined some of the unintended consequences abroad as President Donald Trump’s administration has scrambled to buy up personal protective equipment and remedy domestic shortages. “President Donald Trump’s administration stands accused of effectively hijack...
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[04-Apr-20 04:55 AM] illumnious#7938
get him out


[04-Apr-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
> “President Donald Trump’s administration stands accused of effectively hijacking shipments of masks and additional crucial supplies meant for other countries, including U.S. allies, and strong-arming private firms to prioritize America over other parts of the world,”
while that's horrible, it'll probably just cause his supporters to cheer harder


[04-Apr-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang here's one for your CCP minitrue


[04-Apr-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
The average cost of insulin, per month, in the US is almost $500


[04-Apr-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
> "As is the case with regard to other positions where I, as President, have the power of appointment ... it is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general," Trump wrote. "That is no longer the case with regard to this Inspector General."


[04-Apr-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
trump means that he no longer has confidence that this IG is loyal to him and him alone


[04-Apr-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
there is no room for people who do their jobs if that job leads to oversight of the president


[04-Apr-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in regards to the PPE thing


[04-Apr-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's current tactics are to ignore the DPA


[04-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of making American corporations spend money with legal powers, he shames and threatens


[04-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
then on the market he spends like crazy


[04-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he is deliberately avoiding the sane systems in place to respond well to a crisis.


[04-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he's a fukking moron who thinks "getting deals" is the best thing ever.


[04-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is running the US like one of his businesses [that he's driven bankrupt].


[04-Apr-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
The piracy thing was wack


[04-Apr-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being the US and using military force to divert a mask shipment to Europe


[04-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not military force, but like, threats over the phone to the company, it seems.


[04-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the company is denying the masks were ever meant for Germany to begin with)


[04-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump btw is invoking the DPA a bit...to try to force 3M to make more masks for the US, not to like, actually change supply chains.


[04-Apr-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, he's an idiot.


[04-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/kwqrmxoa4mq41.png can't tell if this is rage bait or legit because I know people like this actually exist

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[04-Apr-20 05:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:wat:


[04-Apr-20 05:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
they are about as tolerant of things as the countries those flags represent.


[04-Apr-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
"Those flags look cool ok"


[04-Apr-20 08:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/georgias-beaches-reopen-as-state-begins-to-shelter-in-place-2020-4

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Georgia beaches are open again thanks to an executive order issued this week by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp.
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[04-Apr-20 09:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491108-trump-recommends-face-masks-but-says-its-voluntary-and-he-wont-do-it

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CDC recommends face coverings for people leaving home
Trump says the recommendation is "voluntary" and he doesn't plan to wear a mask
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_04032020wh_0.jpg


[04-Apr-20 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I pull the mask off will you die?


[04-Apr-20 09:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491137-trump-invokes-defense-production-act-to-prevent-export-of-surgical

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President Trump announced Friday evening that he is invoking the Defense Production Act (DPA) to prevent the export of surgical masks and gloves outside of the country.
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[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] Crow#5457
4 u


[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
welp. The food vendors here now often mandate customers to wear masks :D Since I lack one, time to either source it somehow (don't expect it to be easy or possible, since much of what people wear just barely qualify as a mask), go on a diet or buy crappier stuff from vendors who don't do that :D


[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess i;m not going anywhere till next thursday


[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] byte[]#2610
This move basically assured that other countries will retaliate


[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Filtrete HEPA filter.


[04-Apr-20 09:46 AM] byte[]#2610
It is the _worst possible move to make_


[04-Apr-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
One vacuum bag will make 4 masks.


[04-Apr-20 09:47 AM] byte[]#2610
In classic Trump style


[04-Apr-20 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has a deck of trump cards and he;s playing them all


[04-Apr-20 09:47 AM] byte[]#2610
And it will help Trump assure that he maximizes our death rate


[04-Apr-20 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
more sacrifices for the Line


[04-Apr-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
The Line is unamused


[04-Apr-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
And going down anyway


[04-Apr-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Those unemployment numbers are nothing to sneeze at


[04-Apr-20 09:50 AM] Opponent#3498
**more sacrifices are required.**


[04-Apr-20 09:50 AM] Opponent#3498
the message is clear.


[04-Apr-20 09:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the line is burning in an electrical fire, and they just keep throwing more water on it


[04-Apr-20 09:52 AM] byte[]#2610
jared kushner refuses to release the federal ventilator stockpile to states that need it, thousands die, tens of thousands more get sick


[04-Apr-20 09:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I hope the survivors will learn the lessons about troll voting.


[04-Apr-20 09:53 AM] byte[]#2610
trump's trade war escalation with masks, equipment, and drugs causes other countries to embargo US trade on medical supply


[04-Apr-20 09:53 AM] byte[]#2610
leaving the US stranded and unable to fulfill mask and ventilator demand


[04-Apr-20 09:53 AM] byte[]#2610
we'll have a million dead by november


[04-Apr-20 09:54 AM] byte[]#2610
it keeps looking grimmer and grimmer

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[04-Apr-20 09:56 AM] byte[]#2610
trump invokes the DPA against several companies to try to get them to produce necessary medical equipment, then changes his mind a few days later


[04-Apr-20 09:56 AM] byte[]#2610
they couldn't make it anyway, because the raw materials they need aren't coming in


[04-Apr-20 09:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491113-administration-says-it-will-reimburse-hospitals-for-treating

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The Trump administration announced Friday that the federal government will reimburse hospitals treating uninsured patients for the novel coronavirus using funds allocated in the recent relief package passed by Congress.
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[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that won't be enough for hospital administrators


[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
they'll bill the government and the individual


[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
$20000 procedure? $40000 revenue


[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
of course they will


[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
profits must rise.


[04-Apr-20 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
5000$ procedure, 20000$ price tag, 40000$ revenue


[04-Apr-20 10:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Apr-20 01:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[04-Apr-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-obamacare-coronavirus-health-insurance-job-losses-2020-4

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The striking suggestion collides with the Trump administration's support of a lawsuit that would eliminate the Affordable Care Act.
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[04-Apr-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-highest-single-day-death-toll-in-world-2020-4

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The US just recorded the highest single-day coronavirus death toll ...
The US recorded 1,321 deaths between Thursday and Friday, Worldometers reported. New York state also recorded its highest daily death toll Friday.
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[04-Apr-20 03:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/1245874904156852224?s=21

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Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump)
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Love this @Benioff 👏👏👏 https://t.co/0jn0ME1go3
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[04-Apr-20 03:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Okay wat https://twitter.com/ivankatrump/status/1243562878956863492?s=21

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Social Distancing Works! 

Stay Safe and Be Kind. ❤️ #TogetherApart
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[04-Apr-20 03:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/490995-trump-nominates-kentucky-judge-for-influential-appeals-court

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Trump nominates former Kavanaugh clerk for influential appeals court
President Trump announced on Friday that he would be nominating Justin Walker, a federal judge in Kentucky and a protégé of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, to a seat on the D.C.
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[04-Apr-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://imgur.com/gallery/Nkqg7n


[04-Apr-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-Apr-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(look at Y scale)


[04-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/world/europe/russian-virus-doctor-detained.html

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Russian Doctor Detained After Challenging Virus Figures
The police held overnight an outspoken Russian doctor, Anastasia Vasilieva, who was trying to deliver masks to an impoverished rural town.
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[04-Apr-20 05:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[04-Apr-20 05:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
US Embassy in China posted this on our social medias


[04-Apr-20 05:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's a video about how the US helped other countries with defeating disease, and the US will keep helping China to defeat corona as well... However, the Chinese people's comments under this video are really unfriendly


[04-Apr-20 05:17 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-Apr-20 05:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
Based Lee Carter


[04-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
pure capitalism can't survive anything it seems.


[04-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
crisis leads to hoarding/price gouging leads to riots leads to revolution


[04-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
pure socialism sucks too, but it's more robust structurally, without borrowing from other schools


[04-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
but that's like literal house on sand.


[04-Apr-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
the difference is that capitalism is gay and socialism is based


[04-Apr-20 06:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Monarchy please


[04-Apr-20 06:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
as long as I'm nobility that is


[04-Apr-20 06:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
:3


[04-Apr-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is incredibly adaptive. Socialism is incredibly robust.


[04-Apr-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot go with just one.


[04-Apr-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
social capitalism seems to be a working combination for most other countries


[04-Apr-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but noooo, that would be a burden on our poor fragile billionaires


[04-Apr-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 06:34 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang was that malaria help from pre-trump? because I highly doubt today's president would go help China against malaria whatsoever


[04-Apr-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
That aged poorly


[04-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every Trump tweet ages in its own special amazing way after just a month


[04-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like fine bananas.


[04-Apr-20 06:52 PM] jlun2#8758
For his supporters at least.


[04-Apr-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine forgetting your principles that easily


[04-Apr-20 06:56 PM] jlun2#8758
Pretty sure they added that tag because it attracted publicity, and nothing more; Rape (or pretty much any problem) to them is just that thing that happens to other people that's also bad.


[04-Apr-20 07:17 PM] Honahue#0656
rules for thee not for me, metoo was good when it got bad people out of power and maybe a couple of friendlies but now that it threatens to blow a hole in the status quo nm it's fine they got Weinstien all is good


[04-Apr-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Social Distancing: The Dos and Don’ts: Important guidance from the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

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[04-Apr-20 07:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
> rules for thee not for me, metoo was good when it got bad people out of power and maybe a couple of friendlies but now that it threatens to blow a hole in the status quo nm it's fine they got Weinstien all is good
@Honahue 

Imagine developing a feminist or any sort of progressive or even reformist frame-work and movement that only really tackles an issue at an individual level in order to go after le bad people, then it doesn't go after the anointed bad people.

Perform analysis or get kicked in the ass.


[04-Apr-20 07:27 PM] Honahue#0656
their analysis was the same surface level kind that Apathetic Libertarians do, men in power keep sexuall harrassing/assulting women, clearly if women were in power that wouldn't happn. Weirdly this is the same kind of Victorian era women civilize men mentality


[04-Apr-20 07:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Once again proving any analytical framework in the Marxist school of thought is the best.


[04-Apr-20 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or any left-wing analysis at least.


[04-Apr-20 07:31 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/03/31/outcasts/
https://therussianreader.com/2020/03/31/anti-asian-racism/

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[04-Apr-20 07:32 PM] ononim#8141
nice to see that it is buisness as usual while I am sitting at home /s


[04-Apr-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[04-Apr-20 07:56 PM] jlun2#8758
Trump is going yell US TRAITOR or some crap because of this


[04-Apr-20 07:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, so despite everything the man himself believes, Trump is not going to be president forever


[04-Apr-20 07:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what do you think will happen to the rest of the Republican party once that happens?


[04-Apr-20 07:58 PM] byte[]#2610
mad scramble for power


[04-Apr-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
jared kushner 2024?


[04-Apr-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
ivanka?


[04-Apr-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
pence?


[04-Apr-20 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they start throwing eachother under the bus to grab at more power as none of thme actually have a support system as it;s all built on blakcmail and taking down the other guy


[04-Apr-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
then the most cruel and draconian becomes president


[04-Apr-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
and rip women and minority rights for another decade


[04-Apr-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without trump, kushner is just as liekly to be thrown in prison as trump is


[04-Apr-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as are possibly the whole of Trump's family


[04-Apr-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
is kushner as popular as trump, or nah


[04-Apr-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[04-Apr-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pence likely wouldnt last witohut trump to shield him


[04-Apr-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans wouldnt shield him from impeachment if it was called since he isnt that great a puppet figure to hide behind


[04-Apr-20 08:09 PM] Honahue#0656
I duno Pence is like everything the Rebulicans like, hes a strong christian with no christian morals and he has silver fox energy


[04-Apr-20 08:11 PM] jlun2#8758
>  strong christian with no christian morals 
What even is Christian nowadays?? being old and white male?


[04-Apr-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that also depends on trump being impeached or dying instead of being voted out


[04-Apr-20 08:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on the brand of christian


[04-Apr-20 08:11 PM] Honahue#0656
in America? nothing there's literally no American christianity that isn't just forced births and capitalism


[04-Apr-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
christianity has many sects


[04-Apr-20 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"evangelical" just means WASP


[04-Apr-20 08:12 PM] illumnious#7938
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[04-Apr-20 08:13 PM] Honahue#0656
David Bentley Hart is the only decent american Christian, mostly cause he's not a literalist and beleives in universal salvation


[04-Apr-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are plenty of decent non celebrity christians i;ve met


[04-Apr-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
msotly in new jersey though...


[04-Apr-20 08:13 PM] Honahue#0656
lol


[04-Apr-20 08:14 PM] Honahue#0656
alright only decent fairly public Christian


[04-Apr-20 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the christians i;ve met in north carolina are rather... fucking insane


[04-Apr-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity is more insane the further you get from the eastern cities.


[04-Apr-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because those were founded first.


[04-Apr-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Christian offshoots went to other places to stand out.


[04-Apr-20 08:15 PM] jlun2#8758
> literalist 
the reason why I take things literally is because I cannot understand subtext, and have a hard time picturing non-literal interpretations. Are those people also autistic and/or OCD like me?


[04-Apr-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
No they just can't grasp the idea of stories to tell messages.


[04-Apr-20 08:15 PM] Honahue#0656
it takes effort to take an alligorical interpretation


[04-Apr-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, a story about a guy who kills demons and learns that some people are just bad is about...how demons are a real threat.


[04-Apr-20 08:16 PM] jlun2#8758
I failed english lit course 😦

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[04-Apr-20 08:16 PM] Honahue#0656
doesn't mean you're bad at it could just have had a bad teacher


[04-Apr-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the christians i've met down here talk as if god is an abusive ex husband who beats you for doign things he doesnt like and threatens the lives of your family and loved ones if you leave him


[04-Apr-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[04-Apr-20 08:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why do you think we have such a problem with abusive ex husbands


[04-Apr-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue pretty sure it's me, since for my life I miss dog whistle messages and get baffled why people get angry on things
@prism stryder(intexda) ...doing hurtful things meme?


[04-Apr-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 so it was not :litaf:


[04-Apr-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if earth is the waifu in that meme and it ends with him settign her on fire and shooting her family


[04-Apr-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Apr-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
are christians going to mass migrate to israel or something?


[04-Apr-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american christians? nah, they're die hard "patriots"


[04-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
if they're evengelicles who believe in rapture no they want the Jews in Israel


[04-Apr-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I ended the world for you god kun! Please notice me!"


[04-Apr-20 08:28 PM] Honahue#0656
there's a big long name for the rapture idiots like post millenial eschatology


[04-Apr-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Apr-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
(typeset manuscript for the book)


[04-Apr-20 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
> What even is Christian nowadays?? being old and white male?
@jlun2 

By being a protestant you forgo any pretense of being religious because you're either pre-ordained to go to Heaven, to be a true Christian anyways, or have always been saved and thus don't need to do works.


[04-Apr-20 08:33 PM] Honahue#0656
premillenial pretribulation eschatology that's what it's called more words than they really deserve


[04-Apr-20 08:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
Protestantism is literally THE most atheist thing you can do while claiming religious identity.


[04-Apr-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk so what do they even do at church? sit there and sleep?


[04-Apr-20 08:34 PM] Honahue#0656
oh yeah Calvinist predestitation, everyone's already been decide who goes to heaven


[04-Apr-20 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk so what do they even do at church? sit there and sleep?
@jlun2 

Depends. Quakers are hella meditative but they are also the most religiously centered of all protestants and thus are the only true ones left. The rest here in the States are all centered on the preacher because he serves more or less as a motivational speaker, much more so the mega churches. Otherwise, the church is where you go to park your kids a couple hours on a Sunday because they have a good-enough Sunday school program, so you can leave them there and go do things.


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then you get to the psychos who worship snakes in Appalachia where they bring themselves to speak in tongues and do weird shit.


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't know what's up with that. I guess a relapse into true paganism


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] Honahue#0656
pretty sure the early church would shut down mega churchs as iconography


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
90% of all protestantism is hella heresy these days


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
metaphorical snake worship (ie. snake medicine) or literal?


[04-Apr-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like, literal.


[04-Apr-20 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
They hold snakes and pray


[04-Apr-20 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
The snake becomes a means by which to commune to God


[04-Apr-20 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because... reasons?


[04-Apr-20 08:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think it might also be a symbolic handling of Satan and thus mastery if you don't get bit or whatever. Like a return to Genesis thing


[04-Apr-20 08:38 PM] jlun2#8758
> Symbolic
Probably at the beginning, but I highly doubt now


[04-Apr-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premillennialism

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[04-Apr-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
not to be confused with millenialism, which is based on KILLING HARDWORKING AMERICAN JOBS WITH AVOCADO TOAST


[04-Apr-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're getting in your business and killing all your hundred dollar lunches~


[04-Apr-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the diamonds are next


[04-Apr-20 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Since we're on protestantism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhxmOZG7Foc&feature=youtu.be

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[04-Apr-20 08:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
I PIRATE THIS FOR YOU


[04-Apr-20 08:50 PM] Honahue#0656
I love that protestantism is the result of Ned Flanders and deferred maintenince


[04-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Honahue#0656
reminder to never delay maintenince at best some people will die when whatever it is collapses at worst you'll inspire a religion that kills millions more


[04-Apr-20 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
"This wall is six foot out of plum."


[04-Apr-20 08:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] 🥑 are the millennial 🍆


[04-Apr-20 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Damn, time to  d o   a    t h i n g    t h a t    i n s p i r e s   a    r e l i g i o u s    r e a c t i o n."


[04-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Honahue#0656
Grover Basilica


[04-Apr-20 08:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I never quite understood calvinist predestination


[04-Apr-20 08:54 PM] jlun2#8758
Religion keeps reviving like a zombie


[04-Apr-20 08:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, god created all those people and decided to destine them to hell for shits and giggles?


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
What's even more wild are Jehova's Witnesses.


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine believing only a few ten or hundred thousand will ever get to Heaven


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
But you end up with a religion of a few million


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their usual argument is "shush, don;t question it"


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
And you're past your end times date

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[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"God works in mysterious abusive ways"


[04-Apr-20 08:55 PM] Honahue#0656
religions are still on the decline but catastrophies tend to boost them for a bit


[04-Apr-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 isn't that just this
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[04-Apr-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If God works in mysterious ways then why do people pretend to understand him


[04-Apr-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
and similar related videos, except we're the sims


[04-Apr-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it gives them power over those that believe their lies


[04-Apr-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or they're on something


[04-Apr-20 08:57 PM] jlun2#8758
It makes them do t poses and say "holy" things


[04-Apr-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
like this

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[04-Apr-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
and I have no idea why


[04-Apr-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on who's preaching their understanding of god, for the msot part


[04-Apr-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which sect are they in and do they run a megachurch?


[04-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-WjIVxyR5c

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Religion and Practicality
Brück, J. 1999. Ritual and rationality: some problems of interpretation in European archaeology. European Journal of Archaeology 2(3), 313-344.
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[04-Apr-20 09:05 PM] Honahue#0656
he makes a good point about religion and science being rooted in the same human ability to notice patterns


[04-Apr-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I read that before too. too bad somehow they start to diverge, and now they behave like polar opposites


[04-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calvinist thought is a defense of classism.


[04-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It says that some people were chosen to be saved, others are just doomed.


[04-Apr-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also says everyone is prone to sin due to original sin, nobody is virtuous by default.


[04-Apr-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
Inheritability was investigated by a monk. today, I highly doubt a deeply christian person would even think that's real


[04-Apr-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of this is to justify hedonist elites and a suffering underclass.


[04-Apr-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that the workers are not to be cared about because they are in fact nothing but doomed sinners.


[04-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
While the elites are god's chosen few who, sure, they sin a lot, but that's just their nature!


[04-Apr-20 09:10 PM] jlun2#8758
that reminds me of some WW2 idea


[04-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, people often accept things that are seen as "natural".


[04-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not just as in from nature


[04-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
but as in that they are prone to by default


[04-Apr-20 09:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some famous Calvinists are the Boers from South Africa


[04-Apr-20 09:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Television was banned in that country until the 90's iirc


[04-Apr-20 09:13 PM] Honahue#0656
nothing good as come from Calvanism


[04-Apr-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because of religious puritans fearing TV would corrupt the youth into hedonism or whatever


[04-Apr-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literally "these pictures in a box are the work of the DEVIL" kinda thought


[04-Apr-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 
> TV would corrupt the youth into hedonism
would they just think the youth were doomed to begin with, or are they another one of those people who think it applies to only other people and not themselves?


[04-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calvinism is all about the idea sin is around every corner.


[04-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that the only way to deal with it is to go around burning shit.


[04-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if sin is found in the elites? Well no wonder, sin was in their TVs!


[04-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally it is about shifting blame away from the sinner to something in society.


[04-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
While not caring for the sinner either.


[04-Apr-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
I got the feeling the word "elite" in this case doesn't mean the same as what I think it does


[04-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It mostly means the ruling party and religious leaders.


[04-Apr-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
Ok. Was thinking intellectuals 😛


[04-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, that priest only touched little boys because the boys exposed him to satanism and everyone is prone to sin.


[04-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll still go to heaven and be with god etc. etc.


[04-Apr-20 09:18 PM] ononim#8141
I like how Hugenotes (who are calvinists iirc) in France are pretty progressive and were helping Jews at the time of Dreyfus affair and World War two because they themselves were a persecuted minority and thus developed in a different way


[04-Apr-20 09:18 PM] ononim#8141
materialist development yay


[04-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated; if you thought Trump's daily press events are shitty, keep in mind Spain's Sanchez has been doing the same, 40 minute monologue about how great a job he's been doing and how it's time to stick together and not rock the boat, *plus* instructing journalists on what questions they can ask or be banned from the events


[04-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah France has been Catholic most of the time and Calvinists are a form of Protestents so getting pursecuted is pretty normal


[04-Apr-20 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
suggest some revisions https://gist.github.com/liamwhite/05c87356c92b05c54ad76a635e2f75d2

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[04-Apr-20 10:53 PM] illumnious#7938
he's going to kill us all https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/were-going-to-open-our-country-again-trump-says-we-have-to-open-our-country-again/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘We’re going to open our country again’: Trump says ‘we have to ope...
President Donald Trump urged the re-opening of America during Saturday’s Coronavirus Task Force briefing. “We want to finish this war,” Trump said. “We have to get back to work,” he continued. “We have to get — we have to open our country again.” “We have to open our country a...
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[04-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, today's presser's 50% been "open the country again"


[04-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
```And you're past your end times date```


[04-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
time to get creative :D


[04-Apr-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> We want to finish this war
War?


[04-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> “We don’t want to be doing this for months and months and months.”


[04-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh man, went off the fucking rails when asked about firing the IG


[04-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hmm, maybe if you fixed your healthcare system first :ponythinking:


[04-Apr-20 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~I mean we'd still have the same problem, just not to the magnitude of *medical staff not having the PPE necessary to do their jobs*~~


[04-Apr-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey quick question


[04-Apr-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what if I *want* to be doing this for months on end


[04-Apr-20 11:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because that's what it takes when all you do is flatten the curve if you even manage to do that


[04-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-wipes-28m-copyright-verdict-katy-perry-capitol-records-1285141

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Judge Wipes Out $2.8M Copyright Verdict Against Katy Perry, Capitol...
More than a half a year after a California jury stunned the music world by punishing Perry for ripping off a Christian rapper's song, a judge finds there was nothing protectable to infringe.
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[04-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
A bit old, but really important, actually.


[04-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, some fukkhead "musicology" guy testified that descending minor keys were clearly infringement to ever use


[04-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that Flame had, in 2008, invented using them.


[04-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keys are like the entire basis of classical European music.


[04-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw doot deet dooot is can be copyrighted


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also he claimed the songs hav the same timbre.


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can hear adam neely from here


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
```War?```
WAAAAAAGH!


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They...don't.


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, someone tried


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav as different a timbre as you could hav in the genre.


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And lawyers made mad bank off it


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
TSP you should go back to law school


[04-Apr-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
god fuck no


[04-Apr-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
make mad bank off being a leech


[04-Apr-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally half the class of ~200 or so of my year were literal psycopaths


[04-Apr-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
then you can fund derpi forever \o/


[04-Apr-20 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ytoUuO-qvg

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Why the Katy Perry/Flame lawsuit makes no sense
Katy Perry just lost a $2.8 million dollar court case against Christian rapper Flame. The case hinged on the testimony of the plaintiff’s expert musicologist Todd Decker.

Legal opinions on the case, and a link to the initial brief
https://blogs.law.gwu.edu/mcir/case/marcus-gr...
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[04-Apr-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump is back on the "this country must die so the rich can live" thing again?


[04-Apr-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[04-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
@Nebbie Relevant, and mildly amusing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul47gYGIMek

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Flame "Joyful Noise" vs Katy Perry "Dark Horse" Mashup
Side by side comparison.
Joyful Noise slowed down to match beat and compare progression. Mashup made in 2015, posted in 2016.

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THIS CRAZY COUPLE SOLD THEIR HOUSE TO LIVE AT DISNEY WORLD FOR A YEA...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ul47gYGIMek/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He also spent a while saying 3M is the worst company ever


[04-Apr-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which... hey, maybe don't promote a system where a single company is the expert on certain products and no competitors of worth arise because it's not a profitable enough market


[04-Apr-20 11:32 PM] Honahue#0656
"here's Joyfull noise"
"Oh wait no that was the Godzilla theme"

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[04-Apr-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-suing-cuomo-and-new-york-after-gun-stores-closed-2020-4

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The NRA is suing Gov. Cuomo after New York closed gun shops as non-...
Under Cuomo's "PAUSE" order, which is in effect until at least April 15, gun stores were deemed non-essential and ordered to close.
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[04-Apr-20 11:34 PM] Honahue#0656
I find it funny that 3M became the PPE manufacturer, they started as like Minnasota Mining Magnet or something they started in mining


[04-Apr-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491182-virginia-offering-hotel-rooms-to-homeless-to-curb-spread-of-coronavirus

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Virginia offering hotel rooms to homeless to curb spread of coronav...
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) on Friday announced $2.5 million in emergency funding that would go to serving the state's homeless population.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/northamralph_020219getty2_lead.jpg


[04-Apr-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491136-trump-nominates-white-house-lawyer-for-coronavirus-inspector-general

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Trump selects White House lawyer for coronavirus inspector general
President Trump announced Friday that he has selected a member of the White House Counsel's office to serve as the inspector general overseeing the dispersement of hundreds of billions of dollars in federal funds as part of the coronavir
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/millerbrian_041812getty.jpg


[04-Apr-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, so we're seeing none of it then?


[04-Apr-20 11:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even care about how petty I sound anymore


[04-Apr-20 11:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is not the neckline of a man capable of dispersing *anything*


[04-Apr-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that man looks like he ate the checks instead


[04-Apr-20 11:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-may-allow-churches-to-open-for-easter-despite-local-bans-something-we-should-talk-about/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump may allow churches to open for Easter despite local bans: ‘So...
“Maybe we could allow special, for churches, maybe we could talk about it. Maybe we could allow them, with great separation outside, on Easter Sunday. I dunno, it’s something we should talk about.” “We’re not going to churches on Palm Sunday. But think of next Sunday — Easter,...
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[04-Apr-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Apr-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/KingstonAReif/status/1246505214708011009?s=20

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As a pandemic ravages the nation, a sad illustration of wildly misplaced priorities.

Initial FY 2021 budget requests for:

Nuclear weapons ($44.5 billion, +19% over FY 2020)

CDC ($5.5 billion, -18.6%)

NIH ($38.7 billion, -7%)

DoD CTR bio threat reduction (127.4 million, -...
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[05-Apr-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
never in my life was I ever more glad that I wasn't american


[05-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, living there.


[05-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
I hope the people will _learn_.


[05-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol no, they won't


[05-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There could be a zombie onslaught in the US and everyone there would still believe they're the BEST country in the world


[05-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
zombie onslaught would be pretty cool though.


[05-Apr-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
certainly better than this schrödinger's cat of a virus


[05-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on the type of zombie


[05-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Walking Dead zombies are ez mode


[05-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Night of the Living Dead, fuck, they literally cannot die unless turned to ash


[05-Apr-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
28 days later, **WELP**


[05-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Night of the Living dead is the worst one cause even if you do burn them you just spread the chemical into the atmosphere and create a new outbreak


[05-Apr-20 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
mm, yeah, pretty much fucked.


[05-Apr-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd have left already but that costs money :hopeless:


[05-Apr-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of people here i've met, who are the guy who hides their zombie bite from the group until it's too late.


[05-Apr-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://ucommblog.com/section/union/trump-permits-decertification-45-days

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Trump Permits Decertification in 45 days
New NLRB rule makes it impossible to win a union election
https://ucommblog.com/sites/default/files/photos/NLRB-659x325_5.jpg


[05-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's absolutely fucking insane.


[05-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The current rule is ONE YEAR

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[05-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is to kill the NLRB entirely.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know even if Joe Biden was less liberal


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think at this point he will be forced to tear this shit apart.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joe Biden would still be the most leftist president ever.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, so much of what Trump's done is on its face scummy.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to realize


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He supports the PRO Act, which is the biggest pro-union bill since 1935


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joe Biden's policies are the average of congressional Democrats.


[05-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
*at all times*


[05-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally when congressmen flip their positions, it changes his.


[05-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically a "what does the party say" machine.


[05-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding"


[05-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[05-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the weirdest experiences I ever had was going to a workplace in the midst of a union decertification drive


[05-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every three feet, a anti-union propaganda posters


[05-Apr-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jesus fucking christ :isee:


[05-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Biden's mind is pretty well gone he's a gestalt of the Democratic party because he's literaly just a puppet at this point


[05-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorites were basically "You're smart, why do you need someone else to bargain for you" and "We already give you the benefits a union could, who needs them?"


[05-Apr-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, the benefit of signing a contract that promises you wont sue them if you get injured ont he job, suhc a spledorous benefit that is


[05-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491187-trump-says-son-baron-is-happy-but-not-as-happy-as-he-could-be-amid

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Trump says son Baron is happy, but 'not as happy as he could be' am...
President Trump said on Saturday that his youngest son, Baron Trump, did not seem much bothered by the social distancing measures put in place by the White House amid the coronavirus outbreak, but noted that he would rather that things returned to
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20200404_trumpbaron_gettyimages.jpg


[05-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone send the kid some V-Bucks


[05-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, even if your company promises you stuff, it's not necessarily as good as a union


[05-Apr-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt trust a damned thing walmart would promise me


[05-Apr-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which president despised the poor and having them in his presence? i forgot his name and google is only giving me trump


[05-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon I believe?


[05-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Reagan


[05-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NLRB is probably the second worst place to work in the government, BTW


[05-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(EEOC is the worst)


[05-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc a president after ww1 or ww2 was notorious for needing poor people hidden from him when visiting europe


[05-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't that Wilson


[05-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
there probably were many :D


[05-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
the poor carry disease, communism and illegal firearms after all.


[05-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the one i;m looking for


[05-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wilson hated the poor, yes.


[05-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wilsonianism is modern American policy


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right down to "Hey we didn't do anything for three years but we have all these ideas so do you want it?"


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's all about putting America above other countries diplomatically and yelling DEMOCRACYYYYY as we spread lasseiz-faire capitalism at gunpoint.


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole point of it is to not actually do much


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US could have ended the war by 1915 or 1916.


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
just make us look good


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and make everyone else financially dependent.


[05-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Entering late helps with that.


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lets us choose who gets stuff.


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the cost of nonAmerican lives.


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol by the time the US entered WWII the Germans were already fucked and going to lose


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the US got tons of stuff in the aftermath.


[05-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wilsonianism is a special form of nationalism.


[05-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the Klan basically got reformed because Wilson was really into the Birth of a Nation fandom


[05-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism is a key component of Wilsonianism.


[05-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to use it to justify invasions easier


[05-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause obviously brown people ruled by brown people isn't Democracy.


[05-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's worth noting that Wilson was basically part of the historian elite during the time


[05-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, if it helps to not be racist against Asians if that means we spread Democracy to them, sure.


[05-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who were _all_ Southerners


[05-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just put out more propaganda.


[05-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And _all_ rewrote history


[05-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You ever watch Ken Burns' Civil War?


[05-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[05-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should, it's great.


[05-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, there's a talking head named Shelby Foote who is basically the Confederate apologist the whole time


[05-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who openly said as a Southerner he would have fought for the South.


[05-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[05-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I would fight for the Confederacy today if the circumstances were similar. There's a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the 19th century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things. States' rights is not just a theoretical excuse for oppressing people. You have to understand that the raggedy Confederate soldier who owned no slaves and probably couldn't even read the Constitution, let alone understand it, when he was captured by Union soldiers and asked, 'What are you fighting for?' replied, 'I'm fighting because you're down here.' So I certainly would have fought to keep people from invading my native state."


[05-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I’m for the Confederate flag always and forever. Many among the finest people this country has ever produced died in that war. To take it and call it a symbol of evil is a misrepresentation."


[05-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The classic "other people can't stop me from being shitty" idea.


[05-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mixed with the outright fallacious states rights propaganda, of course.


[05-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The funniest part of his whole career to me was


[05-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay so apparently in the mid 90s, Disney wanted to build a new Disney World in Virginia, near battlefields, and make it America-themed


[05-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always remember, Republicans suddenly think the federal gov't should overrule states when it comes to who can marry, when abortion can happen, or who can get health insurance or medicare or emissions standards.


[05-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But only sometimes.


[05-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a massive uproar among Civil War historians etc, so Disney pulled the plug (EuroDisney didn't help)


[05-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know what that land is used for now?


[05-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Subdivisions.


[05-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the land got developed anyway, just into something way less beneficial for the community.


[05-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a Disney world 35 miles west of DC.


[05-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"State's rights" was always about slavery, yes


[05-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also what Foote said about the "raggedy soldier" who couldn't read the Constitution is objectively wrong


[05-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They thought "If the planters win maybe I'll be able to own slaves someday"


[05-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If they didn't, why did West Virginia, a place full of yeoman farmers who hated planters, secede?


[05-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
WV seceding from V is the funniest shit in US history.


[05-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overall state: LET'S KEEP SLAVES


[05-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some mountainous little side: HOW ABOUT INSTEAD WE GET OUR OWN SENATORS?


[05-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WV: "Fukk you and your money, you treat us like shit, we're leaving"


[05-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
US: SURE WHY NOT


[05-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overall state: YOU CAN'T JUST SECEDE!


[05-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
WV: WELL IF YOU CAN SECEDE FROM THE UNION, WE CAN SECEDE FROM YOU! HAH!


[05-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The question "Why did poor people with no slaves fight for the South" can only be answered by the 1860s equivalent of "temporarily embarrassed billionaire"


[05-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Temporarily embarrassed planter"


[05-Apr-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also keep in mind that it was a genuine Southern argument to point to conditions in Northern factories and go "Look how bad it is there! Look at how provincial and nice our plantations are, we treat our slaves like family"


[05-Apr-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's *still* the argument.


[05-Apr-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
People on tours of old plantations go YEAH BUT SOME SLAVES GOT TO LIV IN THE HOUSE I'D LOVE THAT


[05-Apr-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I worked at a historical site, we made damn sure that was never ever an interpretation people got.


[05-Apr-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least I and a few other people did.


[05-Apr-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you can try but in the end idiots are idiots.


[05-Apr-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I had a coworker that had people leave the tour because they complained it was political


[05-Apr-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think they got into an argument about the Confederate flag or something


[05-Apr-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
hah


[05-Apr-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like what, you think a bunch of historians giving a tour are going to be pro-Confederate?


[05-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people who go to Monticello and get mad that so much of it is about slavery


[05-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"NOOOO JUST TALK ABOUT THE SWIVEL CHAIR JEFFERSON MADE"


[05-Apr-20 01:43 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.dw.com/en/new-school-curriculum-raises-eyebrows-in-orbans-hungary/a-52964617

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New school curriculum raises eyebrows in Orban's Hungary | DW | 31....
Anti-Semitic authors will soon be compulsory reading in Hungarian schools, and history books will be rewritten to promote pride in the nation. Viktor Orban's controversial new school curriculum is drawing outrage.
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[05-Apr-20 01:43 AM] ononim#8141
Hungary trying really hard to win "Most Reactionary gov of Eastern Europe" race I see


[05-Apr-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
they're preparing for WW3 before it becomes cool :3


[05-Apr-20 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
```The curriculum's patriotic goals are particularly clear in literature and history. Students should learn to be "proud of their people's past." The nation's historical wartime defeats are to be deleted from textbooks and replaced by portrayals of victorious battles. Hungarian legends and myths are to be presented as historical facts.
The controversial authoritarian rule of Miklos Horthy from 1920 to 1944 is also to be portrayed in a positive light. The fact that Horthy passed anti-Jewish laws in 1920 and later became one of Adolf Hitler's close allies will be downplayed.```


[05-Apr-20 01:45 AM] ononim#8141
```The literature program has also been highly criticized. Hungary's only Nobel laureate for literature, Holocaust survivor Imre Kertesz, was removed from the curriculum, as well as the internationally recognized and widely translated novelist Peter Esterhazy, who received the Peace Prize of the German Book Trade in 2004.
Instead, works by nationalist authors such as Jozsef Nyiro and Albert Wass are now mandatory reading. Nyiro was a member of the fascist Arrow Cross Party and an admirer of Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. Wass was an avowed anti-Semite and convicted war criminal. The government of Orban's Fidesz party has been pushing the rehabilitation of these authors for years, erecting new monuments and naming streets after them.```


[05-Apr-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
good times.


[05-Apr-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder how they'll paint over the crushing defeat by Soviets :D


[05-Apr-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking that's probably their first time encountering slavery wasn't it, and their schools either skipped over it, or they skipped over school


[05-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll probably say Jews made them fail.


[05-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the go-to for conservatives.


[05-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something bad happened? It was the minority group's fault, not ours!


[05-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I did once have a Russian on one of my tours, he had no clue about the American Civil War at all.


[05-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It felt really good to talk to someone who had no clue and inform them of the right interpretation


[05-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he'd probably think of it like Catherine the Great vs. serf owners.


[05-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't explain it like that but basically condensed American history of slavery to the Civil War in my spiel.


[05-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which is a much weaker thing)


[05-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't want to analogize it to his history and confuse him


[05-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, there's way too many different details.


[05-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coincidentally Russia ended serfdom around the same time


[05-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine how weird it would be if you went to Russia to some historical place you'd never heard of and the interpreter tries to compare it to something in the US


[05-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there was a loooooong trail of slow reform


[05-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catherine the Great was an enlightenment thinker for a bit and she tried to set things up to make serfdom less terrible.


[05-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Russia took another like 70 years to actually get rid of it.


[05-Apr-20 01:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking and then it turns out the event they made an analog of was also unknown to you


[05-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess you could say that Russia


[05-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looked a gift horse in the mouth


[05-Apr-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/rWG36Do it;s ok everybody, the pandemic is over! The private jet evangelist just blew it away with the wind of god!

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[05-Apr-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
thanks, I'm cured


[05-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately Russia's history is pretty bleak but also boring.


[05-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had a Russia history class and yeah, it was depression constantly outside Catherine the Great and early Lenin from what I got


[05-Apr-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
it pains me that people like Copeland are allowed to legally rip off millions


[05-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catherine the Great's wholy story is depression


[05-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You probably got the abridged version.


[05-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically she came to power by a damn bloody coup and everything ended with her disillusioned and slightly tyrannical.


[05-Apr-20 02:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) Do those old men genuinely believe that, or are they fully aware their viewers probably never passed high school?


[05-Apr-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
god;s wind sounds like a wet fart


[05-Apr-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those old men are probably in on the scam


[05-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They are 1000% scammers


[05-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a business


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
```Coincidentally Russia ended serfdom around the same time```


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
theoretically xD


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
in practice, there was precious little difference between a kolhoz member and a serf.


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, sharecroppers etc. were basically slaves.


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
(probably one of the reasons the initiative succeeded at all)


[05-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South repeatedly did stuff to make blakks basically slaves.


[05-Apr-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Still tries to


[05-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
also, 'bleak but also boring' is one of the most apt descriptions of Russian/Soviet history that I've seen


[05-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
literally no redeeming quality.


[05-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
also would describe living it well I think.


[05-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
jfc, there's a similar lawsuit that's going on now with Ed Sheeran


[05-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
apparently one of his songs uses a similar chord progression to a previous song


[05-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
which itself took its chord progression from a previous song


[05-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
on and on all the way to Bach


[05-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
naturally, Ed Sheeran is being sued for $100 million for being the last link in a centuries-long chain of reusing basic ideas of music theory.


[05-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Copyright lawyers need to be fukking shot.


[05-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(this same shit is going on with technologies for cancer research, note)


[05-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(as in like, while SCOTUS ruled you can't patent a gene itself, the basic ideas of certain kinds of testing are patented etc.)


[05-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trademark isn't much better


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY

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VELCRO® Brand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY
Don't Say Velcro
Our Velcro Brand Companies legal team decided to clear a few things up about using the VELCRO® trademark correctly – because they’re lawyers and that’s what they do. When you use “velcro” as a noun or a verb (e.g., velcro shoes), you diminish the importance of our brand and ou...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rRi8LptvFZY/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When was the last time you actually saw the Velcro brand on anything?


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least that doesn't stop innovation.


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem here is like


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are claiming infringement on basic concepts


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Patent trolls, yeah


[05-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is like claiming infringement for a TV show having spaceships that travel faster than light.


[05-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And with patents, it's even worse


[05-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
People patent stuff like "a process to increase communications speed in networks"


[05-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in like


[05-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
ANY PROCESS THAT INCREASES THE SPEED


[05-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not quite that specifically bad, but it's damn close.


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It took SCOTUS to even rule that you can't patent testing a gene


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is any testing of a certain gene.


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, you say that since you were the first to look at the alleles


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody else could use any other method to look at any alleles in that gene, ever


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
without paying you royalties.


[05-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So people couldn't sequence their genome.


[05-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's akin to if you copyrighted looking at a certain landscape


[05-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney needs to answer for the damage they have done to copyright


[05-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so anyone that ever viewed the landscape with a camera had to pay you money.


[05-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If they don't have a major push for Mickey Mouse movies and shit within a decade they should lose him.


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
2024


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why hasn't there ever been a real Mickey Mouse movie


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too valuable of a character?


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it would taint the character.


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey is used as an icon.


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Mickey Mouse filling his pants with soft serve didn't do that?


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting real content behind him would tie him to it.


[05-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
you misunderstand


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey Mouse could do something horrible in a short


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
nobody would care


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem isn't reputation damage via bad behavior


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that a feature length film needs a plot


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[05-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if Mickey is what it's about, then whatever happens in the plot is tied to him


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mario is getting a movie


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about damage.


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and Mario is just video game Mickey


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Mickey marries in that plot, Mickey is tied to whoever he marries


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
similarly, his nemesis would hav to be shown a lot in Disney stuff.


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mario already has mainline stories.


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's already tied to Peach, Bowser, Luigi etc.


[05-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey is not.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every association with Mickey is loose.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A movie about him would cement them.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Minnie/Goofy/Daisy?


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody cares about them.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Goof Troop.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still.


[05-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disney cannot make a film about Mickey because it would make him mean something.


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's basically a corporate logo


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] jlun2#8758
dont worry, he'll just get lobbied another decade easily


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know Epic Mickey?


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know, jlun.


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was a game originally that was going to be like Kingdom Hearts


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's only 3.75 years left.


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have a paragon/renegade system


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney insisted Mickey couldn't do anything actually bad etc


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
so ruined


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The politics are different now.


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's part of it too, Its


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
for a real story


[05-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need conflict


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
for conflict, you need decisions


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] jlun2#8758
searching about music copyright gave me this
https://medium.com/young-coder/how-developers-are-saving-the-music-industry-from-suing-each-other-a9adba6a03cb

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How Developers Are Saving the Music Industry from Suing Each Other
Can a Python project with a melody-generating algorithm help fix the copyright system?
https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*PxgPjCVg4kLMrQS-_vMDEg.jpeg


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey making a bad decision would reflect on the whole company


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
any decision-making logic he'd use would be absolutely seen as how Disney does things.


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] jlun2#8758
> Their tool, called All the Music, generated 69 billion potential melodies and saved them on a single hard drive. 
:glowing_eyes:


[05-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good or bad, Disney wants to remain a mystery.


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they're a mystery, it's harder to blame them.


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
>69


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine they make a movie where Mickey acts blatantly consumerist in decision-making


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
haha sex number


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
and this leads to him killing a villain who is...shall we say...brown.


[05-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
A villain who tried to ruin Mickey's business.


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bam, now Disney isn't just the butt of jokes


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
your average normie realizes it's what they really are.


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you watch Cars 3 where Lightning McQueen gets upset at all the merch made of him and questions his human(car?)ity?


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter.


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lightning's not an icon.


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's anti-consumerist.


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] jlun2#8758
then pixar executives go :glowing_eyes: MAKE ALL THE MERCH


[05-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is if he acted pro-consumerist.


[05-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Mickey resembled how Disney thinks then people would know how Disney thinks.


[05-Apr-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then they would assault it.


[05-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bonus points if a poor decision during directing has Mickey like, behead the anti-consumerism villain.


[05-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make the Sonic movie, but Mickey Mouse.


[05-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's safe.


[05-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Disney supposedly has a rule in its mainline films against smoking, beheadings, and impalement; naturally it seems like the MCU and Star Wars deliberately add such things to hav a giggle)


[05-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not safe


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sonic made decisions in that movie.


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sonic said to stay home in your rural area.


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sonic opposed the gov't.


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sonic started a bar fight.


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(while likely too young to drink)


[05-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's canonically 16


[05-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sonic is also basically a refugee in that movie


[05-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
one who decided to deliberately stay in the US after the gov't decided he didn't qualify as a person


[05-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who could've gone to another planet to liv on mushrooms


[05-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mickey-fy that and Disney comes off as liberal in the extreme.


[05-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking every Sonic canon is different, and this had a whole new origin story.


[05-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's unclear how long he spent in the woods in "Montana".


[05-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or how long he previously spent on other planets.


[05-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely around 10 years, so 16 is possible, but he acts more like 12-13.


[05-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Treascair#7785
> https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491182-virginia-offering-hotel-rooms-to-homeless-to-curb-spread-of-coronavirus
@prism stryder(intexda) ^ -- this, right there? makes me SO proud that my hubby's a Virginia boy! Thanks for the link!

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Virginia offering hotel rooms to homeless to curb spread of coronav...
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) on Friday announced $2.5 million in emergency funding that would go to serving the state's homeless population.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/northamralph_020219getty2_lead.jpg


[05-Apr-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
I suppose building more houses is too taboo?


[05-Apr-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s hard to obtain funding for that because of realtor and bank lobbyists, and lawmakers who want to keep the housing market exclusive


[05-Apr-20 04:01 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1246618473519775745

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[05-Apr-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
linked tweet


[05-Apr-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> Justice Department never agreed with Atkinson's view that Trump-Zelensky call fell 'within the responsibility and authority' of Director of National Intelligence. It did not, of course, but Hill Democrats' insistence that it did was key to impeachment going forward.


[05-Apr-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
this is obviously because DoJ is a political arm of the Trump administration


[05-Apr-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
and so they did everything within their power to keep it from getting out


[05-Apr-20 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582 (pinned)
Barr should consider losing weight if he ever hopes to achieve his dream of being anally vored by the president

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[05-Apr-20 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[05-Apr-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for now he has to deal with just shoving a straw up the president;s ass and drinking it that way


[05-Apr-20 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[05-Apr-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony and Steve Bannon on the other hand is into cock vore right? 😂


[05-Apr-20 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
```That was a game originally that was going to be like Kingdom Hearts```


[05-Apr-20 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
grimdark, horror Kingdom Hearts :D


[05-Apr-20 04:46 AM] Opponent#3498
also, why is Burisma story still alive?


[05-Apr-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
memes age in the matter of days now, and after Iran/WW3, CORVID, recession, horrifying conduct of administration etc you'd think that would be forgotten by now


[05-Apr-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not even remotely relevant


[05-Apr-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
>corvid


[05-Apr-20 05:10 AM] byte[]#2610
caw

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[05-Apr-20 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's my understanding that the burisma *story* is no longer alive. It's become a watchword; a dog whistle to instill a certain feeling in your average Fox viewer - they're counting on you having forgotten what, exactly, the Bidens are supposed to have been involved in, just that they Were, and it was Bad


[05-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As a voter, why should I give a shit about Biden's son?


[05-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, for real.


[05-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Show me a voter in Michigan who wouldn't be a nepotist given Biden's position and I will show you a liar.

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[05-Apr-20 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because the hypocrisy is different. For a Republican, of *course* they're going to do all the things they speak out against because that's how you play the game of politics and win. But according to Republicans, liberals are idealistic subhumans who by their nature are supposed to be opposed to such winning tactics, losers like they are, so when they abandon their morals, it's *doubly* wrong. But who can blame them? They're all socialist scum trying to undermine American values that Republicans are fighting for. You hear them talking about fighting for it all the time.


[05-Apr-20 06:46 AM] illumnious#7938
wew


[05-Apr-20 06:46 AM] illumnious#7938
caw


[05-Apr-20 06:47 AM] illumnious#7938
why https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1245737362409295872?s=21

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[05-Apr-20 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
this reminds me of North Korea situation


[05-Apr-20 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah pretty much everyone could just go in, smash the armies and take over. Then what?


[05-Apr-20 07:05 AM] Opponent#3498
what do you do with the people and the territory, especially the people?


[05-Apr-20 07:06 AM] Opponent#3498
same here. What do you do with the zombies who believe in deep state conspiring against their shining beacon of light?


[05-Apr-20 07:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it's self-reinforcing


[05-Apr-20 07:07 AM] Opponent#3498
at least with Korea you can drip-feed them humanitarian aid and ignore the problem entirely


[05-Apr-20 07:08 AM] Opponent#3498
it's pretty hard to ignore good third of your population.


[05-Apr-20 07:22 AM] illumnious#7938
Thousands of applicants, zero loans: Trump's small businesses lending program is a failure to launch https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/thousands-applicants-zero-loans-trump-s-small-businesses-lending-program-n1176766

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Thousands of applicants, zero loans: Trump's small businesses lendi...
One day after the launch of a $350B loan program designed to rescue millions of small businesses, technical glitches continue to cripple the process.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_14/3295821/200404-steve-mnuchin-cs-1253p_3cc9d2d062fff4acb91a71c3b8d43a59.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[05-Apr-20 07:31 AM] GameNerdy#2934
I hope you're all getting comfy as we continue to watch the world burn.


[05-Apr-20 07:31 AM] illumnious#7938
Yep, welcome to fucking hell


[05-Apr-20 07:32 AM] illumnious#7938
In other news; https://apple.news/AaxswP3R1SPqxyg69dXFG2w

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Bankers struggle to get virus relief loans to small businesses — Bl...
President Donald Trump on Saturday dismissed concerns about the rollout of a $349 billion program to assist small businesses rocked by the coronavirus, saying loan distributions were “way ahead of schedule” even as banks struggle to respond to the flood of requests.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQWF4c3dQM1IxU1BxeHlnNjlkWEZHMncAMA


[05-Apr-20 07:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AYCpTbROXTB6P79c19Qirog

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Coronavirus sparks a “war for masks” in desperate global scramble f...
As the coronavirus pandemic spreads across Europe and the United States, a global scramble for medical equipment such as respirator masks and gloves is underway. Several countries have accused the United States of trying to hijack their orders, but the details of who may have ...
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQVlDcFRiUk9YVEI2UDc5YzE5UWlyb2cAMA


[05-Apr-20 07:32 AM] GameNerdy#2934
I sure hope I get my trumpbux soon


[05-Apr-20 07:33 AM] illumnious#7938
Do people really trust CNN?


[05-Apr-20 07:34 AM] GameNerdy#2934
Unfortunately. And we allow journalists to actually talk to people.


[05-Apr-20 07:34 AM] GameNerdy#2934
I've never seen a more sad group of indoctrinated people all my life


[05-Apr-20 07:35 AM] illumnious#7938
I see


[05-Apr-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN is trusted by Boomers and Gen Xers who just paid enuff attention to realize Fox News is full of shit.


[05-Apr-20 07:36 AM] illumnious#7938
lel


[05-Apr-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result they get CNN's fake liberal and fake conservative arguments and go "yep sounds like a discussion I totally understand, wow I hate politics let's go pretend it doesn't exist and go to a dinner party. Social distancing is a joke!"


[05-Apr-20 07:36 AM] illumnious#7938
I mean other than those *trumpists* who only trust news from OAN and FOX


[05-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's only the TV version


[05-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
even Fox News' actual website is very nearly sane.


[05-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN's web news is practically entirely factual.


[05-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
TV is all about pumping up the drama and feeding a false narrative.


[05-Apr-20 07:38 AM] illumnious#7938
So the moral of the story is this: CNN is a bunch of shit


[05-Apr-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the web, all you can do is clikkbait, actually fake stories are easier to catch because shit is written down and can't be passed off as just the host or interviewee making a mistake..


[05-Apr-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't recommend relying on TV news in general


[05-Apr-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
ABC/CBS/NBC are a lot better than CNN but you can tell they're biased when stories touch their parent company.


[05-Apr-20 07:38 AM] illumnious#7938
This is why I rather podcast


[05-Apr-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also anything "local" is just owned by some conservative overlords trying to replicate Fox's success but intermingled with your weather.


[05-Apr-20 07:39 AM] illumnious#7938
Now another station called CNBC, is that station all that good as well?


[05-Apr-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not really.


[05-Apr-20 07:39 AM] illumnious#7938
Ouch


[05-Apr-20 07:40 AM] illumnious#7938
Lucky I got NBC installed


[05-Apr-20 07:41 AM] illumnious#7938
> Also anything "local" is just owned by some conservative overlords trying to replicate Fox's success but intermingled with your weather.
@Nebbie  so CNN is FOX News in disguise.


[05-Apr-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No CNN isn't local.


[05-Apr-20 07:43 AM] illumnious#7938
Ah


[05-Apr-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN is just weaker liberal Fox News.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
A loooot weaker.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] GameNerdy#2934
Makes me glad I've learned to live life without television. They've tried to brainwash me for years, but luckily, I broke their hypnotic spell.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like, the most milquetoast thing ever.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It treats both medicare for all and obamacare repeal as the two sides available


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] illumnious#7938
So I guess Trump is right about CNN


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
then pits them against each other by finding fake experts.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, Trump thinks CNN is fake


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN isn't fake


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[05-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just...void


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of what CNN on TV says is just people arguing with each other with fake points


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's strawman wars.


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CNN never wants a liberal to win, Fox does


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Underneath that is a moderate left mess.


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] illumnious#7938
Ohhh


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] illumnious#7938
I see


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox instead puts forward mostly liberal strawmans and burns them in effagy.


[05-Apr-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then recites the president's BS


[05-Apr-20 07:46 AM] GameNerdy#2934
Remember when CNN hounded down the kid who made that gif of trump beating up a guy with a CNN logo for a head?


[05-Apr-20 07:46 AM] illumnious#7938
Moral of the story(again): CNN is shitty


[05-Apr-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They should have.


[05-Apr-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Media should hound people constantly.


[05-Apr-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The media shouldn't be just muckrakers, but aggressive wolves


[05-Apr-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eager to go for the throat


[05-Apr-20 07:47 AM] GameNerdy#2934
Not over a gif that hurt the CEO's feelers. That's just unprofessional.


[05-Apr-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Professionalism is a Boomer meme


[05-Apr-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For journalists at least


[05-Apr-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
and be denied everywhere eventually.


[05-Apr-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make people think you are clean, tell everyone you are.


[05-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Old media is a joke anyway.


[05-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
journalism is interesting as a concept.


[05-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dirty" isn't lying, or slander or libel, it's not giving a fuck if people say you're shit and not being afraid of slinging back


[05-Apr-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
wrong term, then


[05-Apr-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't be a 1980s liberal who thinks higher ground wins


[05-Apr-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It doesn't.


[05-Apr-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
-1980s*


[05-Apr-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the overall problem with most liberals.


[05-Apr-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't understand conservatives, what they believe, and how they often win.


[05-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The overall problem again is that liberals will constantly listen to right wing ideas that are outlandish but gaslight any left wing ones.


[05-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
1980s liberals btw were people who were like "well Reagan banned underage driving overriding states rights, so I guess he's a good guy..."


[05-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile America was being hollowed out


[05-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CNN will give time to people who say "We need to get rid of minorities" but not "hey maybe healthcare should be free"


[05-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they'll put a guy like that in just to burn as a strawman.


[05-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll never let the argument focus on it.


[05-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they take the first guy totally seriously, that's the problem


[05-Apr-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Second guy is a straw man to laugh at


[05-Apr-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause burning him gets them more ratings.


[05-Apr-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, TV is a bad system.


[05-Apr-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It rewards shokk.


[05-Apr-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It rewards lowest common denominator.


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does not reward accuracy or integrity or being good.


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you think about it it was 50 years of clickbait


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse tho


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
clikkbait lures you in with an outrageous headline


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
then feeds you whatever, you've already clikked


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
TV is something more insidious


[05-Apr-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of luring you in initially, it presents itself as next to nothing


[05-Apr-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
then once you come on it, it starts the outrage, and keeps it going as long as possible


[05-Apr-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clikkbait wants to fool you into looking and doesn't mind giving you actual info.


[05-Apr-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
TV wants to constantly feed you bullshit.


[05-Apr-20 07:57 AM] GameNerdy#2934
Nebbie knows what's up. For years CNN dragged out the Mueller report. Making idiots so certain that Trump is going to get impeached. Giving them those feel good words that they want to hear/read. All for the sake of getting those precious clicks and ad watched to generate as much revenue as possible. Honest journalism is dead.


[05-Apr-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mueller's report and the impeachment weren't necessarily bad things to talk about.


[05-Apr-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with CNN is that neither of those things fill a full day on their own.


[05-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tidbits were too few and far between up until the very end with the trial.


[05-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Hillary did what Trump did if she were president and Democrats were in power, she would have been removed from office.


[05-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
TV wants people to watch as long as possible, it's like YouTube.


[05-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under normal conditions, the Mueller report scandal on its own would be enuff to sink a presidency.


[05-Apr-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
A President Hillary Clinton would be dead meat just from the report and its obvious censorship.


[05-Apr-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the GOP cannot complain about e Democratic president who does similar shit.


[05-Apr-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What gets me is people who say "what Clinton did was worse"


[05-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine in 2024 when Biden or his VP does the same shit


[05-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they think he raped Monica Lewinsky apparently, and that lying wasn't a problem legally.


[05-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Perjury in a civil matter isn't inviting another country to investigate a political rival


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people don't even think perjury is a crime now with Roger Stone


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they think that's far worse than soliciting bribes using diplomatic power.


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if perjury to Congress weren't a crime


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically isn't for the Executive branch now.


[05-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has been the case since at least the Obama administration (Clapper)


[05-Apr-20 08:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Congress gave up so much power just to have Senate/House Majority/minority leaders be mini presidents.


[05-Apr-20 08:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because that's what it is now


[05-Apr-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, what if they actually made Bernie majority leader when things flip?


[05-Apr-20 08:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Trump, McConnell, Schumer, Pelosi, and McCarthy doing shit


[05-Apr-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yeah, to Republicans like


[05-Apr-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton committing what is basically corporate sexual harassment


[05-Apr-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
is literally rape


[05-Apr-20 08:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Schumer would still be majority leader, or Klobuchar or something


[05-Apr-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile nothing Trump has done is objectionable


[05-Apr-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I feel like Klobuchar's loss in the primary, and Bernie holding on, plus his legacy, would edge her out.


[05-Apr-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting things on her would probably lose them support over time.


[05-Apr-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could use Warren for sure.


[05-Apr-20 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly, I don't think Biden will pick any of the women that ran for president in 2020 as VP


[05-Apr-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really do see Whitmer or Abrams as the strongest choices


[05-Apr-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That will really kill his energy.


[05-Apr-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That will kill his energy?


[05-Apr-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, he could pick like


[05-Apr-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Penny Pritzker


[05-Apr-20 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(member of famous and rich Illinois political family and supporter)


[05-Apr-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will basically mean everyone will go "who?" and then upon finding out details not care.


[05-Apr-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it'll entirely rely on him winning debates with Trump.


[05-Apr-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Piece of cake as that is, he'll win without the youth vote doing much.


[05-Apr-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you really want a VP to overshadow you? If you do, you risk the Palin effect, or broadcasting "hey I may not make it four or eight years"


[05-Apr-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Biden's case? Absolutely yes.


[05-Apr-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is a fun vampire.


[05-Apr-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's bad against an opponent like Trump.


[05-Apr-20 08:11 AM] GameNerdy#2934
He'll make a little girl vp so he can awkwardly touch her


[05-Apr-20 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only Corn Pop were a woman


[05-Apr-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that probably would boost his polling numbers.


[05-Apr-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause then people would be able to watch him and not fall asleep.


[05-Apr-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just constantly sniffs her hair at rallies.


[05-Apr-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Joe Biden can social distance by not sniffing hair during this time, we all can do our part

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[05-Apr-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason he's in hiding.


[05-Apr-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he sees hair, it's over.


[05-Apr-20 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially the hair of the young, who are often carriers.


[05-Apr-20 08:13 AM] GameNerdy#2934
RIP sleepy Joe


[05-Apr-20 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't worry, Trump will die first after he declares that Jared can't be a carrier because he looks "immaculatory"


[05-Apr-20 08:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean calling someone sleepy is tame


[05-Apr-20 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
With his dying breath, he will say "this is the worst flu. It kills Americans, like why would china even do this, they just don't like our big economy"


[05-Apr-20 08:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Trump call the current head of his HUD someone who looked like a child molester


[05-Apr-20 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a compliment in Trump's view.


[05-Apr-20 08:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ben Carson, yes


[05-Apr-20 08:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how he talked about Epstein.


[05-Apr-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives constantly say Trump hated him etc


[05-Apr-20 08:17 AM] GameNerdy#2934
he didn't kill himself, you know


[05-Apr-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

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[05-Apr-20 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
+ years long legal battle with a girl who was 14 at the time of the alleged behavior


[05-Apr-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
the complaint filed states that trump raped her at an epstein party


[05-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
```Schumer would still be majority leader, or Klobuchar or something```


[05-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
GABBARD


[05-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
🇺🇸


[05-Apr-20 08:48 AM] byte[]#2610
PRESENT


[05-Apr-20 08:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Gabbard is a Rep


[05-Apr-20 08:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a Senator


[05-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
aw


[05-Apr-20 01:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The US Embassy we here claimed to evaluate all the American citizens from abroad. It will be the biggest evaluation of abroad American citizens since 230 years ago.


[05-Apr-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-capt-brett-crozier-letter-looked-terrible-2020-4

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Trump says the fired Navy commander's letter pleading for help for ...
President Donald Trump said Saturday he agreed with the Navy's decision to fire Capt. Brett Crozier over his letter pleading for help.
https://i.insider.com/5e893c988427e9430c12c5e4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[05-Apr-20 02:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've bought some futures of soybeans


[05-Apr-20 02:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So, will soybeans raise its price on this year?


[05-Apr-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, it would be kind of a dick move to raise food prices in a pandemic, but possibly :implying:


[05-Apr-20 02:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Autumn soybeans in China is mainly imported from the US


[05-Apr-20 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, if we;re talking US prices. that's a bit more muddled and unpredictable


[05-Apr-20 02:40 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I heard that the US has grown more soybeans than before this year


[05-Apr-20 02:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the orange shitfunnel has a habit of fucking up prices on things in an instant and that includes msot farmed goods


[05-Apr-20 02:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm about to sell out the soybean futures to buy some stocks


[05-Apr-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491189-private-equity-firm-with-ties-to-kushner-asks-trump

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Private equity firm with ties to Kushner asks Trump administration ...
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/20200402_kushnerjared_gettyimages.jpg


[05-Apr-20 02:44 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will America start a war this year?


[05-Apr-20 02:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some experts we here are worrying about this


[05-Apr-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will likely try with iran to claim "war time president" status but at this point it;s curerently unknown


[05-Apr-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trumps spats with china likely wont lead to war, though it might lead back into tariffs


[05-Apr-20 02:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-death-toll-new-york-cases-andrew-cuomo-latest-a9447771.html

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Trump warns 'there will be a lot of death' this week and lashes out...
Cases in the US surpass 300,000 across the country
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/04/04/21/donald-trump-coronavirus-white-house-briefing.jpg


[05-Apr-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really hope he;s one of those casualities


[05-Apr-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[05-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pretty sure he goes from his room to the press room and back and nothing else


[05-Apr-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wouldnt surprise me in the slightest


[05-Apr-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also an attempted golf outing


[05-Apr-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or likely several attempted golf outings


[05-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think the white house has a golf sim room somewhere


[05-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One of those with a sensor wall


[05-Apr-20 02:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-death-toll-new-york-cases-andrew-cuomo-latest-a9447771.html

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Trump warns 'there will be a lot of death' this week and lashes out...
Cases in the US surpass 300,000 across the country
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/04/04/21/donald-trump-coronavirus-white-house-briefing.jpg


[05-Apr-20 02:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I still have no idea how to read the name "Cuomo"


[05-Apr-20 02:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's it "tsu-o-mo" or "ku-o-mo"?


[05-Apr-20 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the second one


[05-Apr-20 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/fox-news-execs-build-legal-team-in-anticipation-of-getting-sued-for-coronavirus-misinformation-report/

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Fox News execs build legal team in anticipation of getting sued for...
On Friday, The Daily Beast reported that Fox News father-and-son owners Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch are assembling a team of lawyers in preparation for lawsuits against the news network for promoting misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic that could undermine public heal...
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[05-Apr-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reading news has gotten annoying with the anti-adblock bullshit


[05-Apr-20 03:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This fucking website contained 4 ads and I'm warned by our Great Firewall


[05-Apr-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-trump/anyone-near-trump-or-pence-will-be-given-rapid-coronavirus-test-white-house-idUSKBN21L2XH

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Anyone near Trump or Pence will be given rapid coronavirus test: Wh...
With the coronavirus contagion spreading, the White House said on Friday that anyone expected to be near President Donald Trump or Vice President Mike Pence will be given a rapid COVID-19 test out of an abundance of caution.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200403&t=2&i=1512056339&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG3220Q


[05-Apr-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so pretty much jsut swarm the president and you'll get your test


[05-Apr-20 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Got this from another server https://twitter.com/JohnBWellsCTM/status/1246505891911925762

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USA just discovered the man who manufactured and sold the #coronavirus to #China.  Dr #CharlesLieber, head of the chemistry and biology department at #HarvardUniversity, USA. He was just arrested today according to American department sources. https://t.co/RkZ8Qh5SI3
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[05-Apr-20 03:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
???


[05-Apr-20 03:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[05-Apr-20 03:07 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m pretty confused myself


[05-Apr-20 03:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Isn't the virus from Chinese Asshole-head Bat (they're just called so in Chinese)?


[05-Apr-20 03:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
What is this Q shit


[05-Apr-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
On a closer (not so close) look, this is a Q guy


[05-Apr-20 03:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Apr-20 03:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
China opened some scenic areas in 4.4


[05-Apr-20 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nsc/as-trump-administration-debated-travel-restrictions-thousands-streamed-in-from-china-idUSKBN21N0EJ

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As Trump administration debated travel restrictions, thousands stre...
In defending his strategy against the deadly coronavirus, President Donald Trump repeatedly has said he slowed its spread into the United States by acting decisively to bar travelers from China on Jan. 31.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200405&t=2&i=1512688321&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG3408F


[05-Apr-20 03:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I really worry about the wooden bridge in that photo...


[05-Apr-20 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is way too many people for a wooden birdge


[05-Apr-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now trump is taking masks from new jersey


[05-Apr-20 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-89505-523363--,00.html


[05-Apr-20 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
^licensing boards are beginning to restrict the prescribing of chloroquine because people who don't have any conditions are hoarding it


[05-Apr-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/4c63d4382453e89bd169fdbfa29fc746

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Trump talks with US pro sports leaders to discuss virus
President Donald Trump talked to many U.S. pro sports leaders about the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, saying he was looking forward to the resumption of competitions “as soon as we...
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[05-Apr-20 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
```I think the white house has a golf sim room somewhere```


[05-Apr-20 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah but Obama might have used it once. Now it's tainted forever.

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[05-Apr-20 05:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://unwatch.org/china-joins-u-n-human-rights-panel-will-help-pick-experts-on-free-speech-health-arbitrary-detention/

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Mr. Jiang Duan, who holds the rank of Minister at China’s mission to the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva, will play a key role in selecting the world body’s monitors on health, freedom of speech, arbitrary detention and enforced disappearances. GENEVA, April 2, 2020 — China ...
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[05-Apr-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[05-Apr-20 06:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh man let's get through step 5 quickly, I can't wait for step 6


[05-Apr-20 06:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hang on, did ben just straight up trace some BotW link pinup?


[05-Apr-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~No, that's an edit meme~~


[05-Apr-20 06:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well now I'm disappointed


[05-Apr-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Apr-20 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
uhh, that video in the tweet that claims that the doctor who "manufactured and sold the coronavirus to china" says literally nothing about the coronavirus, only that the dude hid financial ties with china


[05-Apr-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
it's Q


[05-Apr-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
did you expect any sort of evidence


[05-Apr-20 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's Q, that *is* evidence


[05-Apr-20 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
financial ties mean everything


[05-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
compassion is weak; sociopathy is the path of the strong


[05-Apr-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and psychopathy is the drive to get you to success!


[05-Apr-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
success fueled by throwign grandparents into the fires of the money pit for the sake of economic good times


[05-Apr-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Apr-20 07:24 PM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
From someone in another server: "My boss fired half of his people and is using the money loaned by the government to buy automation."


[05-Apr-20 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1246819682419494912

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George W. Bush's 2005 quote about preparing for a pandemic is in the spotlight
There has been plenty of discussion on the 43rd president's detailed pandemic proposals for the US, which he laid out in 2005. "If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare," he said.
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[05-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder that business owners are generally scum cause the system doesn't reward being a good person.


[05-Apr-20 07:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie i'm genuinely surprised they actually invested back into the business instead of enriching themselves


[05-Apr-20 07:42 PM] Opponent#3498
automation is inevitable though.


[05-Apr-20 07:42 PM] jlun2#8758
too often I read about bosses doing that, but not even bother with the automation part


[05-Apr-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of investing into automation is to pay the workers less to profit more to enrich themselves.


[05-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
still, he's smart about it.


[05-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a more long-term way to enrich themselves.


[05-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the stupid people that are the most vexing.


[05-Apr-20 07:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent doing this to buy new yacht or car or stock  and make the remaining staff work harder is usually what I read rather than automate


[05-Apr-20 09:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Police see rise in domestic violence calls amid coronavirus lockdown https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-see-rise-domestic-violence-calls-amid-coronavirus-lockdown-n1176151

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Domestic violence calls increase amid coronavirus lockdown, police say
Isolation and financial stress can contribute to domestic violence, police and advocates say.
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[05-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
Saluting the Heroes of the Coronavirus Pandumbic | The Daily Show
Hannity. Rush. Dobbs. Ingraham. Pirro. Nunes. Tammy. Geraldo. Doocy. Hegseth. Schlapp. Siegel. Watters. Dr. Drew. Henry. Ainsley. Gaetz. Inhofe. Pence. Kudlow. Conway. Trump. We salute the Heroes of the Pandumbic. #DailyShow #TrevorNoah #Coronavirus

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[05-Apr-20 10:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/491256-boris-johnson-hospitalized-over-coronavirus-symptoms

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Boris Johnson hospitalized over coronavirus symptoms
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was admitted to the hospital Sunday night due to ongoing coronavirus symptoms, a statement from his office said.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/johnsonboris_083119getty.jpg


[05-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🦀 🦀 🦀


[05-Apr-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if he'll die


[05-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
55 so nah


[05-Apr-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
That's getting up there


[05-Apr-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He doesn't look like he's lead the healthiest life


[05-Apr-20 10:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/coronavirus-is-killing-texans-and-the-oil-crisis-is-killing-their-economy/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Coronavirus is killing Texans — and the oil crisis is killing their...
Over the past several weeks, Russia and Saudi Arabia have been in an oil war, sending oil prices to extremely low levels. Last week, President Donald Trump said that he spoke to Mohammad Bin Salman and that the two countries had come to an agreement, but Russia replied to the ...
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[05-Apr-20 10:56 PM] illumnious#7938
blame Trump


[05-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can die from it at 55.


[05-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy looks older than he is.


[05-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Very likely that he needs a ventillator.


[05-Apr-20 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And he'll still try and kill off the NHS probably


[05-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
No see, he'd say the difficulty in getting him one when he's "the shining example of society" means that the NHS is outdated and should be replaced with a "more efficient" healthcare system (a privatized one).


[05-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW, his argument would be that rich white men should get priority.


[05-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if said "difficulty" was literally 5 minutes to verify his identity.


[05-Apr-20 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1039986715417399296

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https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1039986715417399296
the future of eastern europe is a bunch of countries with functionally the same ruling ideology as russia all joining NATO against them because they centered their entire national identity around an anti-soviet partisan from 1942 named like “vyacheslav the jewslayer
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[05-Apr-20 11:13 PM] ononim#8141
twits that aged fine


[05-Apr-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, that isn't how Eastern Europe is


[05-Apr-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/htLctXv2zZE

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Vocal Synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htLctXv2zZE
Barack Obama reads "99 Problems" by Jay-Z (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Barack Obama. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[05-Apr-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh jesus this synth is good.


[05-Apr-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not perfect but really pretty good.


[05-Apr-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/hDVuh4A-q3Q

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Vocal Synthesis
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Ayn Rand reads "The Communist Manifesto" (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Ayn Rand. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[05-Apr-20 11:40 PM] jlun2#8758
the volume changes multiple times :ponythinking:


[05-Apr-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's why it's not perfect


[05-Apr-20 11:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Ayn Rand would be spinning in her grave hearing her voice being used for this.
I wonder if someone could tap it as a power source for their self-interest


[05-Apr-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can i have sex with ur mum


[05-Apr-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Out of my own self-interest of course


[05-Apr-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
Ayn Rand was a grifter


[05-Apr-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
The only spinning in her grave she'd be doing is because she's not getting royalties for her voice


[05-Apr-20 11:47 PM] ononim#8141
the communal ownership of moms


[06-Apr-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1246190191670448134

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Retired Navy Captain Larry Seaquist is not mincing words, in support of Captain Brett Crozier, who was just relieved of command of the USS Teddy Roosevelt. https://t.co/lC2gpqjcC9
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[06-Apr-20 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
do we know who Captain Crozier's commanding officer was yet?


[06-Apr-20 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
has anyone done a skeleton-digging exhaustive character assasination on *him?*


[06-Apr-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wanted-to-fired-the-us-navy-captain-brett-crozier-2020-4

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Trump reportedly wanted to fire the US Navy captain who pleaded for...
"I thought it looked terrible, to be honest with you," Trump said. "Now, they made their decision, I didn't make the decision."
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[06-Apr-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he confirmed he ordered the firing by lying out his ass


[06-Apr-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fired-us-navy-aircraft-carrier-captain-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-2020-4

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US Navy captain fired over leaked coronavirus warning letter has re...
Capt. Brett Crozier was fired this week after a letter sounding alarms about the severity of an outbreak onboard his aircraft carrier leaked.
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[06-Apr-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDp82XFrAg8

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ForgottenApparition
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Obama Book Quotes
Just quotes from his friend Ray from his book "Dreams of My Father." Obama did the audiobook himself so there are quotes of him saying this stuff. Priceless!!!
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[06-Apr-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@byte[] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUyyfT-DdM

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Vocal Synthesis
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Ayn Rand reads the Rick and Morty Copypasta (Speech Synthesis)
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Ayn Rand. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[06-Apr-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just leaked audio


[06-Apr-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*we've ever seen


[06-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjegyrhNiM

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Wade’s Underworld
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GLOBAL PANDEMIC What did Obama ever do?
The current global pandemic has highlighted the strength and incompetence of many world leaders, a certain hot air blowing trumpet is the worst offender.

This isn’t me being political, this is me highlighting what happens when world leaders don’t listen to SCIENCE.

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[06-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
some madman went and dubbed this


[06-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/b2iVYib

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Bezos is a criminal
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[06-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
> I thought we already knew Amazon is a shitty employer


[06-Apr-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll still find people desperate enough


[06-Apr-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
they've got no reasons to be civil


[06-Apr-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it's this or food riots


[06-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a32021287/venezuela-cruiser-cruise-ship-collide/


[06-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Venezuela patrol boat: WE WILL RAM YOU, UNARMED CIVILIAN SHIP!
Cruise ship: So you have chosen...death.


[06-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this Maduro's government or the other one


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maduro


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing about their story about why they did this adds up.


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's still the legitimate leader right?


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta kinda I guess.


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"legitimate" is not an easy thing to define with places like this.


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[06-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"de facto" is a better term.


[06-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But yeah, they fought an unarmed opponent and achieved a flawless defeat so


[06-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
incompetence to the max.


[06-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are you ready, kids?

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[06-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
AYE AYE *coffing sounds*


[06-Apr-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gonna announce Trump has COVID


[06-Apr-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
I bet it


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is going on?


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Cloudy#3004
covid cases shooting up


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Cloudy#3004
we're not flattening the curve


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Cloudy#3004
triage may occur


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Cloudy#3004
peeps gonna die


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
testing* shooting up


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Squash the curve like you squash a beef


[06-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ventillators are running out.


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Production cannot possibly meet the needs.


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
maduro is the elected leader of venezuela, but the election itself had horrible turnout (<30%) and had multiple inconsistencies


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will die not just from the disease being very effective.


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But from the hospital literally being unable to treat them.


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really though, I wonder what the musical about the coronavirus crisis will be like


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Cloudy#3004
testing is shooting up yes
but we're already failing to flatten the curve
more testing will just show more cases


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And what ventilators *do* exist got outbid from state governments by a grifter of the highest order


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The musical would just be about Trump and how he's a horrible person


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would end with him being shot and the audience clapping.


[06-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come From Away didn't mention Bush.


[06-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of what happens now.


[06-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like seriously, textbooks about Trump in the future are gonna refer to him as the worst crisis president in American history


[06-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will be written by the people growing up now.


[06-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do really flattening the curve works? any working cases so far?


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, there will be another conservative hero for them to die on a hill for by then


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Flattening the curve has "worked" in countries like South Korea


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
His legacy will be summed up as "destroyed everything Obama did, including the necessary parts to respond to problems, and prevented saner healthcare systems"


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
South Korea and Japan


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam too I think


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They all had huge testing initiatives.


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Testing > social distancing


[06-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
if people test positive, you can quarantine them by force


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
all it *really* means is dealing with the problem early and effectively and keeping the total number of concurrent cases down so they a) don't run out of capacity to deal with it and b) reduce the overall number of people who get it in the long run


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also had the general populace wearing masks


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and we are well, well past the point of early measures being effective in the US


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Cloudy#3004
flattening the curve is just to slow the spread of the virus
the same amount of people will just get sick
they just want people to try and prevent it for as long as possible


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
measures we're only just now getting around to


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
which means when people hav to be close, or walk thru a sneezed-in area, they're less likely to get it.


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, the same amount will not get sikk


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You need a shame culture, which the US does not have.


[06-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's patently false.


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you reduce how many hav it and how much they contact others, less get it before it dies out in the area.


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
An order of magnitude more people will get sick


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Japan.

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[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Cloudy#3004
colors!


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not want to look at linear graphs.


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not tell you much for this stuff.


[06-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Always look at logarithmic scales.


[06-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Still not flat.

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[06-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not supposed to be flat right away


[06-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to make it less than linear on that scale


[06-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you fit it, then you get a curved line approaching flat.


[06-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The problem is, one cannot keep lockdowns.


[06-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need them forever.


[06-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Here, we have 3 weeks.


[06-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need them until the virus transmission rate is down to where it dies out, plus a bit extra time for it to.


[06-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
People are really struggling to feed themselves.


[06-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
typically what a country can bear is measured in weeks. Virus's life cycle is likely measured in months


[06-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
This virus seems to run its course in 2-3 weeks, but it has a 0-2 week incubation time.


[06-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory if you can test people while they're distancing


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can find the ones that are just starting after the first week or two


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then quarantine them


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
so that after 2 more weeks of the lokkdown, the virus is pretty much donezo


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Japan and South Korea are doing well.


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav tons of testing.


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We don't.


[06-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other countries hav been slow on testing, and as a result, they can't find the cases in time.


[06-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It spreads undetected.


[06-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To make things worse, there are people who are not sick, but carriers.


[06-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why you need to test.


[06-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Aka "symtomless"


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Testing people who don't think they hav it leads to finding it and quarantining them.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
South Korea offered free testing to any who wanted it, period.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile over in the US


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I hav it right now


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd hav no way to know


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
SK is a unique case.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can't just go get tested.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That will be  $75.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
this worked nowhere else.


[06-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is nothing unique about a functional healthcare system.


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure Ukraine, for instance, doesn't even have tests in bulk and is unlikely to get them any time soon


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
same for Russia


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
forget even poorer countries


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently much of Europe forgot to keep their healthcare systems operational and prepared while stripping shit because HURR MIGRANTS


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
haha, $75


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's $300 per test in the US


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/coronavirus-surgeon-general-hardest-saddest-week-pearl-harbor.html

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Surgeon General: “This Is Going to Be the Hardest and the Saddest W...
It marks a stark change in tone for Jerome Adams, who a few weeks ago suggested Americans should be more concerned about the flu than the coronavirus.
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[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only $300?


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
You're not missing anything except the headline


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a huge reduction.


[06-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was $3000 before.


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
But putting money (hypothetically) on a Trump positive result.


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
I mean for just the test


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/

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Total Cost of Her COVID-19 Treatment: $34,927.43
Getting hospitalized in the U.S. for COVID-19 may cost thousands. How much of that you'll pay depends on your insurance.
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-covid19-testing-treatment-US.jpg?quality=85&w=1024&h=512&crop=1


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
treatment is $35k


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
$35k is about the median US salary btw.


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in 50% of people make less.


[06-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
per year.


[06-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-much-does-coronavirus-treatment-cost-about-20000-and-even-people-with-insurance-could-pay-1300-out-of-pocket-according-to-one-estimate-2020-03-24

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How much does coronavirus treatment cost? Getting tested is now fre...
These estimates were based on 2018 hospitalization costs for pneumonia patients with employer-sponsored health insurance.
https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-IC859_corona_ZG_20200323160122.jpg


[06-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
> Getting tested for the novel coronavirus is now free, but being treated for the respiratory illness could cost up to $20,000, a recent analysis by Peterson-Kaiser Family Foundation Health System Tracker found.


[06-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Can't get right stats


[06-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
the predicted max cost was lower than the actual max cost


[06-Apr-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
and 0 boomers will get fucked by the 30k cost right


[06-Apr-20 02:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Someone we here saying that an American scientist has found the special cure for corona, which costs only 20$ but can cure 100% patients


[06-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/covid-19-tests-dont-cost-over-3000/

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COVID-19 Tests Don't Cost Over $3,000
A meme with the false claim that "[t]he US is charging over $3,000 per test" for patients who may have COVID-19 has been circulating on social media. For now, the two agencies authorized to test for the illness are not billing patients.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/LabPic.jpg


[06-Apr-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
it was a test for more than just the coronavirus


[06-Apr-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
the coronavirus test itself is "only" about $300 apiece in the US


[06-Apr-20 02:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The scientist is called "Dr. Vladimir Zelenco"


[06-Apr-20 02:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Do this one really exist?


[06-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:squintyjack:


[06-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/technology/doctor-zelenko-coronavirus-drugs.html

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By Kevin Roose and Matthew Rosenberg
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/technology/doctor-zelenko-coronavirus-drugs.html
Touting Virus Cure, ‘Simple Country Doctor’ Becomes a Right-Wing St...
How Dr. Vladimir Zelenko’s claims for his coronavirus treatment spread from a New York village all the way to President Trump.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/01/business/00virus-zelenko1/00virus-zelenko1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Apr-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
probably not going to work right


[06-Apr-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
but easy right wing money


[06-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
> Dr. Jeff Paley, an internist in Englewood, N.J., who shares some patients with Dr. Zelenko, said it was “irresponsible” for him to promote a treatment without warning people that the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin can cause severe side effects if not properly administered, especially in patients with pre-existing heart problems.


[06-Apr-20 02:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's not so

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[06-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
> But hopes for a miracle cure have ballooned as the coronavirus spreads, and Mr. Trump and his allies are not waiting for the clinical trials to finish. An analysis by Media Matters last week found that Fox News had promoted hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine as a coronavirus cure more than 100 times over three days.


[06-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
> But he appeared to share the president’s initial skepticism about the virus. In early March, he posted several right-wing memes about the coronavirus on Facebook, including one that referred to the pandemic as a “Dem panic” and another that featured Hillary Clinton on a list of “things more likely to kill you than the coronavirus.”


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing worse than a grifter is a medical grifter


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao this is basically the plot to Contagion


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk how 锌(metal zinc) can cure the virus...


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why our boomers even believe this


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buy forsythia!


[06-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
> HCQ, as hydroxychloroquine is known, is generally considered safe for clinical use. But it can be risky if patients administer the drugs themselves. Last month, an Arizona man died after ingesting a type of fish parasite treatment that listed chloroquine phosphate as one of its ingredients.


[06-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(The film Contagion is pretty good, even has it start with a bat)


[06-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1HH1-ozS_A

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THESSALONIAN31N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1HH1-ozS_A
Contagion Ending
Contagion Ending
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[06-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
My google-fu skill are rusty. There is no info on treatment costs here, median salary is $1600 which is bollocks. $75 is actually unaffordable.


[06-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The one thing will always haunt me is patchy online presence.


[06-Apr-20 02:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelenko-669-coronavirus-patients/

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Alex Kasprak
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelenko-669-coronavirus-patients/
Has Dr. Zelenko Successfully Treated 669 Coronavirus Patients?
A blog post asserting that people responded well to an experimental COVID-19 treatment is in no way an evidence-based contribution to science.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/03/rudy-zelenko.png?fit=1200,628


[06-Apr-20 02:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[06-Apr-20 02:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Zinc?! How?!!!


[06-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1iCZpFMYd0

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jasefest
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The Simpsons - A World Without Zinc
Hilarious clip from The Simpsons - A world without zinc starring Jimmy : "come back zinc! come baaack"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1iCZpFMYd0/sddefault.jpg


[06-Apr-20 02:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Eat the zinc powder or just inject 420 degree liquid zinc?


[06-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Zinc ion, surely


[06-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Zn2+


[06-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872
eat a car battery  pussy


[06-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[06-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872

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[06-Apr-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
:no_u:


[06-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-death-rate.html

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By Katrin Bennhold
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-death-rate.html
A German Exception? Why the Country’s Coronavirus Death Rate Is Low
The pandemic has hit Germany hard, with more than 92,000 people infected. But the percentage of fatal cases has been remarkably low compared to those in many neighboring countries.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/05/world/05germany-deathrate1/merlin_171072987_8e193282-6f10-4a5f-84ce-b2d9c4d2f181-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872
they incinerate the ill, so it doesn't count as a death by illness


[06-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872
big brain


[06-Apr-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
:bigbrain:


[06-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872

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[06-Apr-20 02:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Zinc amalgam is better


[06-Apr-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
zinc-mercury amalgam?


[06-Apr-20 02:41 AM] byte[]#2610
X


[06-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872
merry in zucc


[06-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Shakespearicles™#3872
zinc-mercury anagram


[06-Apr-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
this writer


[06-Apr-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Apr-20 02:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't get this...


[06-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Increasing levels of Marxism.


[06-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
In bible verses.


[06-Apr-20 02:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Le Christian Communism has arrived


[06-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Christian Communism"


[06-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So just Jesus, then?


[06-Apr-20 03:00 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-Apr-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
mmmm


[06-Apr-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that definitely needs work


[06-Apr-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
:dashlaugh:


[06-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[06-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dash of all ponies knows about queer things

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[06-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
:twismug:


[06-Apr-20 03:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, what is "Das Kapital" called in English?


[06-Apr-20 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Capital. Or just Das Kapital. We don't change the title from the original


[06-Apr-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Capital


[06-Apr-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Capital" as in the money thing, not the administrative center of a country


[06-Apr-20 03:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've never read it tho... the book is too huge


[06-Apr-20 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
It is big


[06-Apr-20 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
And there's three volumes


[06-Apr-20 03:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Vol 2 and 3 are technically incomplete, lol


[06-Apr-20 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
So you'll get to parts in the published prints that just go, "[PASSAGE INCOMPLETE]"


[06-Apr-20 03:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our politics teacher just advise us to read The Capital and The Wealth of Nation


[06-Apr-20 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wealth of Nations isn't too bad, it's not terribly long. Just dry 18th century English prose.


[06-Apr-20 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Das Kapital is dense and references back to Wealth of Nations to both refute assertions and also point out where Adam Smith is correct.


[06-Apr-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's worth reading Kapital because it is an important book. But also because people have a tendency to strawman Marx and Kapital is kind of his big book, though not his only work.


[06-Apr-20 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
From an introductory perspective to enter into Marxism the usual go-to text as I've learned is Anti-Duhring (or Herrn Eugen Dührings Umwälzung der Wissenschaft/Herr Eugen Dühring's Revolution in Science) written by Engels which summarizes he and Marx's program as a response to the program of Duhring


[06-Apr-20 03:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've even never read Communism Manifesto


[06-Apr-20 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Manifesto is short and sweet.


[06-Apr-20 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
You can do that in an afternoon easily.


[06-Apr-20 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is a big meme when Jordan Peterson cited the Manifesto as the only thing by Marx he read when he went to debate Zizek


[06-Apr-20 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Zizek is a hella Marxist. Like specializes in the field. And Lacan


[06-Apr-20 03:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Last century students we here usually read Mao Zedong Quotes


[06-Apr-20 03:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My grandma just have one


[06-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mao major oof


[06-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being Maoist in 2020


[06-Apr-20 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
This made my Filipino Communist Party


[06-Apr-20 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
[Not really]


[06-Apr-20 03:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
During her time you can become an government officer just by reciting Mao's quotes


[06-Apr-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mao Zedong, like Stalin, was a huge revisionist, take what he writes with a grain of salt


[06-Apr-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh btw


[06-Apr-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How's use of the word "revisionist" over there in China?


[06-Apr-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, how prevalent is it as a cultural thing


[06-Apr-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's written as "修正主义" in Chinese


[06-Apr-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only mentioned once in our history book


[06-Apr-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
another epic take by TMB21

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[06-Apr-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AlchemistLiang does the Chinese government use it a lot?


[06-Apr-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As a derogatory that is


[06-Apr-20 03:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our textbooks says "Mao Zedong wrongly think that there are revisionist in the Communist Party center"


[06-Apr-20 03:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only this once


[06-Apr-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Huh


[06-Apr-20 03:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've never heard this word in other places


[06-Apr-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I ask this because there's frequently serious infighting problems within the communist movement stemming all the way to Marx himself and Bakunin


[06-Apr-20 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some or most Marxists have called schismatics in the movement, perceived or real, as "revisionists", accusing them of distorting Marx's true words and intent on socialism and how to defeat capitalism


[06-Apr-20 03:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know "revisionism" is the excuse for mao's cultural revolution


[06-Apr-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mao himself in particular used this word frequently in reference to the Soviet Union post-Stalin and their alleged "agents" within his Chinese regime


[06-Apr-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He considered them to be "social imperialists", that is, imperialists in disguise -- in this sense, he was correct, imo


[06-Apr-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ironically the same argument of "social imperialism" would end up being used by dissident communist groups in reference to the People's Republic of China after its turn to "market socialism"


[06-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/696531742823153755
tzar bomba level nuclear take


[06-Apr-20 03:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's now called "Xi Jinping New Time Chinese Characteristic Socialism Free Market Economy"


[06-Apr-20 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it's a jumbled up mess lol


[06-Apr-20 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Damn that's a long name


[06-Apr-20 03:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's said again and again so all Chinese can remember this long name


[06-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying "Obama Modern American Unique Laisseiz-Faire Regulated Economy"


[06-Apr-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IMO China should be fostering a national debate about socialism and marxism, not inculcating an uniform and perhaps utterly broken definition of socialism into its citizens


[06-Apr-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AlchemistLiang are there any dissident communist groups in China?


[06-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
>China


[06-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
>fostering debates


[06-Apr-20 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As in, operating within China (to the Chinese NSA agent equivalent reading this, no, i'm not interested in joining or funding any)


[06-Apr-20 03:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk... we only have one communist Party


[06-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Last I checked I heard of uni students going out and helping to start strikes


[06-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Other parties are not communism


[06-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then getting arrested for disrupting shit


[06-Apr-20 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Other parties are not communism


[06-Apr-20 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why does the CCP even keep them around?


[06-Apr-20 03:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because Mao supports multiparty


[06-Apr-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like... an important part of Maoism


[06-Apr-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What were his arguments in favor of multiparty politics?


[06-Apr-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk


[06-Apr-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've never read mao's book

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[06-Apr-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Based


[06-Apr-20 03:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think the only rationale I know of is from a pretty mediocre book on US-Chinese relations where the author just sort of passingly discusses how the CPC kept the more left-wing stuff from the Kuomintag hanging around as a sort of controlled opposition. They're not that powerful of threatening and can just sort of exist for appearances sake.


[06-Apr-20 03:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now Chinese students only learn mao's poems


[06-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Honahue#0656
is he a good poet?


[06-Apr-20 03:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[06-Apr-20 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
How does he compare to Cao Cao?


[06-Apr-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
I do like a good Cao Cao poem if because it reveals a deeper character than he is in the classics


[06-Apr-20 03:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I prefer Mao's... Cao's poems are too hard to read


[06-Apr-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[06-Apr-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Old Chinese and all


[06-Apr-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSxBblrbbYI

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Cao Cao song yojisheaven [eng sub]
English subtitles, sorry in advance for any errors.

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[06-Apr-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
that's got to be weird to get into english


[06-Apr-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, direct Chinese translations word-to-word to English make it sound like caveman talk


[06-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Honahue#0656
first translate to English, then translate to Old English so it's just as incomprehesible to modern readers


[06-Apr-20 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has to be refined and touched up


[06-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
actually Old English might translate Chineses better cause it lacks as many participles relies on cases and inflections more


[06-Apr-20 03:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We learn Shakespeare and Pushkin's poems in our Chinese textbook


[06-Apr-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hm


[06-Apr-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that's cool ngl


[06-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
that's Middle English but that is cool


[06-Apr-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazilian education only makes students learn Portuguese lang poetry


[06-Apr-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We could use a little internationalism


[06-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Middle English is not nearly as far removerd as Old English


[06-Apr-20 03:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our Chinese textbooks also have us to read some foreign novels, because they will appear in our final exams


[06-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
what novels?


[06-Apr-20 03:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many ones...


[06-Apr-20 03:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like Gulliver's Travels, Old Man and the Sea, Faust...


[06-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
I really like Old Man and the Sea


[06-Apr-20 03:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also fairy tales like Alice in Wonderland, Animal Farm, Snow White


[06-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
what do they say about animal farm in China cause it's always used as anti communist thought in the US


[06-Apr-20 03:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Em... it says it's a book to sarcasm tyrants


[06-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
good, Orwell was a Socialist


[06-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
why anyone would say his book was anti communist is nuts


[06-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
American education is abysmal


[06-Apr-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We just read it as fairy tales tho


[06-Apr-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just telling our kids "tyrants are bad"


[06-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
that is the point of a Fairy Tale though


[06-Apr-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
kids don't want to read History of the Pelopenesian Wars or something but if you can condense the lesson into something cool with goblins they'll listen or read that


[06-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
Alice in Wonderland is thought to have been a critique of new mathamatics coming out around the tme it was written


[06-Apr-20 04:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now I'm in the college, and can read some "anti-communism" books


[06-Apr-20 04:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
These books are usually unable to get for most of people


[06-Apr-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
which books?


[06-Apr-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
the major anti communist books I think of would be anything by Ayn Rand


[06-Apr-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is Amadeo Bordiga in there


[06-Apr-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not asking because he was anti-communist, he was a communist through and through


[06-Apr-20 04:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our teacher just advice us to read The End of History and the Last Man


[06-Apr-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that's p weaksauce


[06-Apr-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[06-Apr-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
From my experience one can generally find more fruitful critique of communism from leftist circles


[06-Apr-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though it's mostly constructive criticism


[06-Apr-20 04:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've never read it tho. I'm not interested


[06-Apr-20 04:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm now reading a book called "Digital China: Big Data and Government Manageral Decision"


[06-Apr-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610

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[06-Apr-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
this man has such a massive brain


[06-Apr-20 04:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like our government is going to use more big data technology in the governing system


[06-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
what server is this


[06-Apr-20 04:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think that's the meme internationally, if not in the public governing space than in the private space.


[06-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
we do that in the states we just let private industries control it


[06-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised there's a server that hasn't banned TMB


[06-Apr-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
And the fun thing is: I don't think anyone knows how to evaluate data, like what it's marketable value is.


[06-Apr-20 04:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
An individual data point - an individual - is useless. But more than one, less so. But: how many people makes useful data?


[06-Apr-20 04:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can people be as predictable as algorithms think, or does the algorithm enforce predictability by providing people only with what they have done before.


[06-Apr-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like I easily get trapped in cycles of activity because YouTube puts content out really easily, and not coming up with any immediate ideas of what to watch or listen to one the spot I go to that.


[06-Apr-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which enforces the algorithm even further


[06-Apr-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
theres a principle which is like "once you start using somting as a metric it ceases being useful as a metric" the idea that any business metric can be "gamed" so once you start measuring succcess by it people just manipulated things to make that one datum better


[06-Apr-20 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm sure you could account for that as a sort of kneejerk reaction in the capitalist logic. If such-and-such is good, then in order to maintain positive interest in the thing, a good, service, or policy proposal you must adjust the data always to be most in your favor to attract or maintain as much investment and to hold as much capital as possible.


[06-Apr-20 04:26 AM] Honahue#0656
like GDP includes government spending so if the US was to cut the military budget by half GDP would fall a not insignificat amount so as most economist interpret GDP somehow US lving conditions would get worse


[06-Apr-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old English would be less compatible with Chinese


[06-Apr-20 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
YouTube's methodology is to increase consumption by way of ad revenue to keep you at the screen as long as possible. Since the longer you're at the computer the more ads and featured content you watch


[06-Apr-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern English has a much more similar grammar to Chinese due to lakk of inflection.


[06-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure about particles; does Old English hav things like ", right?"


[06-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
it mostly uses verd declinations


[06-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, see that's not as compatible.


[06-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Honahue#0656
and Chinese uses tones for inflections


[06-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Chinese you can just append a question particle, which is very similar to English.


[06-Apr-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old English wasn't fond of just takking things on to my understanding.


[06-Apr-20 04:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Old English wasn't analytic


[06-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a linguistic term for it but I forget right now


[06-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
modern english is analytic where things are less implied and more defined


[06-Apr-20 04:30 AM] Honahue#0656
word order matters more in an analytic language


[06-Apr-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fusional


[06-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
inflected


[06-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Honahue#0656
but yeah


[06-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, words combine into each other, and lose pieces.


[06-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(agglutinative is where they don't lose pieces, but just lose delimitation)


[06-Apr-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern English is fusional about adjectives mostly but just about everything else is analytic.


[06-Apr-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has a pretty weird mix with changing types of words too btw.


[06-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Tu7Rpb3.jpg

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Daily Fail
https://i.imgur.com/Tu7Rpb3.jpg


[06-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Daily Fecking Mail, even in a TP shortage I still wouldn't sully my arse with that shite.


[06-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[06-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's owned by FOX NEWS


[06-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So...


[06-Apr-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
wait, it is?


[06-Apr-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
can't source that


[06-Apr-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Harmsworth,_4th_Viscount_Rothermere

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Jonathan Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere
Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere (born 3 December 1967) is a British aristocrat and inheritor of a newspaper and media empire founded by his great-grandfather Harold Sidney Harmsworth.  He is the chairman and controlling shareholder of Daily Mail...


[06-Apr-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
this is the owner of the daily mail


[06-Apr-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not Murdoch but equally tar-stained


[06-Apr-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Murdoch up until extremely recently was in charge of Sky news though


[06-Apr-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/05/trump-is-killing-his-own-supporters-coronavirus-covid-19

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'Trump is killing his own supporters' – even White House insiders k...
A plague is raging and the president is leaving the heartlands and blue-collar voters exposed. This could be the endgame
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[06-Apr-20 05:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That explains why dailymail always felt off


[06-Apr-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Their lawsuit insurance must be some good shit


[06-Apr-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Because the UK has quite strong libel laws


[06-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
> Back in the day, Republicans looked upon absentee voting as a valuable adjunct, a key piece in the party’s election day arsenal. Not anymore. Instead it is a dreaded foe, a fact readily admitted by Trump on Fox & Friends this week. If the US were to adopt mail-in voting, said the president, “you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again”.
> 
> For good measure, Trump later declared from the White House: “I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting.”
> 
> For the record, Trump voted by mail in 2018. In March, the Palm Beach Post reported that he had requested a mail-in vote for the Florida Republican primary.


[06-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
The Glorious Leader, everyone.


[06-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
can't even practice what he preaches


[06-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/us/coronavirus-deaths-undercount.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/us/coronavirus-deaths-undercount.html
Official Counts Understate the U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll
Inconsistent protocols, limited resources and a patchwork of decision-making has led to an undercounting of people with the coronavirus who have died, health experts say.
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[06-Apr-20 06:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
China hiding numbers and US can't count. I'd say this is being handled *exceedingly* well.


[06-Apr-20 06:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:isee:


[06-Apr-20 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
US is hiding numbers


[06-Apr-20 07:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the US is about to start a war between Venezuela


[06-Apr-20 07:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[06-Apr-20 07:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>the US gave Venezuela government a "frame", let the "transition government" hold a justice and liberal election


[06-Apr-20 07:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>if Venezuela doesn't do so, the US will keep the "punishment"


[06-Apr-20 07:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Says the country that closes down voting booths in its own ethnic minority areas and forces citizens in impoverished areas to partake in impossibly strict voter registration procedures


[06-Apr-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
says the man who thinks he *is* the country


[06-Apr-20 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
very important distinction


[06-Apr-20 07:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That too


[06-Apr-20 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
only one of these things bears any resemblance to reality and it ain't the threats against venezuela


[06-Apr-20 07:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
US Embassy is seeking Chinese supporters on our social medias


[06-Apr-20 07:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They hope Chinese people support them on the "Democracy Transform of Venezuela"


[06-Apr-20 07:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Venezuela won't transform into a democracy so soon with Maduro out of power


[06-Apr-20 07:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The country's main problem is not bad politics, it is its over-dependence on the oil market


[06-Apr-20 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol at the US allowing anything but puppets in South America


[06-Apr-20 07:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
However, Chinese people are still posting jokes and memes under US Embassy's account


[06-Apr-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this on Weibo or something to support anti Maduro stuff?


[06-Apr-20 07:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some saying they're masturbating to US National Emblem...


[06-Apr-20 07:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's Weibo


[06-Apr-20 07:21 AM] illumnious#7938
GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AMERICA

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[06-Apr-20 07:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
A social media I don't use, because full of shit


[06-Apr-20 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most American leftists/socialists I know hate the CCP and "tankies"


[06-Apr-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If/when America becomes socialist it will be in its own weird way. It's just how it is.


[06-Apr-20 07:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Last year hundreds of thousands of people just made a huge movement on Weibo, to "ban the marriage"


[06-Apr-20 07:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For unknown reason they think marriage is bad, people just should have babies without getting married


[06-Apr-20 07:30 AM] byte[]#2610
CCP isn't communist at all


[06-Apr-20 07:31 AM] byte[]#2610
And tankies are retarded


[06-Apr-20 07:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why is there always fewer new cases in America on every Sunday


[06-Apr-20 07:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because everyone goes to church on sunday instead of the doctor :bigbrain:


[06-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We are officially at over 3 9/11s


[06-Apr-20 07:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(not really)


[06-Apr-20 07:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
New cases on this Sunday is less than on Saturday, on last Sunday is also less than on last Saturday


[06-Apr-20 07:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While on other days, new cases are always more than yesterday


[06-Apr-20 07:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[06-Apr-20 07:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
USSR: Wtf???


[06-Apr-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's referring to one specific camp. Was that camp liberated by US or USSR troops?


[06-Apr-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was indeed the soviets.


[06-Apr-20 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52157824

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Killed by a virus he thought had been overhyped
A preacher who said coronavirus was overhyped has died after catching the virus at Mardi Gras.
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[06-Apr-20 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
another one bites the dust


[06-Apr-20 10:02 AM] Midknight#9798
Donald. *Dooonnn*ald. Your voters are dying. How does that make you feel? 

Are you hyperventilating? Just a bit? Maybe feeling anxious? That shriveled little walnut you call a heart feel like it's going to turn your ribcage into an expanding torus of shrapnel?

That's *Impending Doom.* And you're the devil. And your little attempt to conquer Mars made some*guy* very, very angry.


[06-Apr-20 10:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, it's The Sun that's owned by FOX, not Daily Mail


[06-Apr-20 10:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same trash though


[06-Apr-20 10:08 AM] Midknight#9798
:twihappy:

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[06-Apr-20 10:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe Mardi Gras is killing their attendees :twismug:


[06-Apr-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIGhz3uwuQ

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Vox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIGhz3uwuQ
Coronavirus is not the flu. It's worse.
Send this to anyone who still thinks Covid-19 is basically the same as the flu.

Read more about the coronavirus pandemic at http://vox.com/coronavirus

Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, has similar symptoms to the flu. They also spread in similar ways. So it's ...
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[06-Apr-20 10:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-touts-chloroquine-for-covid-19-but-dismisses-risks-2020-4

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Trump is touting experimental drugs for COVID-19, saying they're 'n...
"If it works, that will be great, if it doesn't work ... it doesn't kill people," Trump said of chloroquine. But the drug comes with serious risks.
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[06-Apr-20 10:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still touting it as a miracle drug


[06-Apr-20 10:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i wouldnt be surprised if he looks at the death toll of the virus more like a high score than a threat, he jsut hasnt said it out loud yet...


[06-Apr-20 10:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sometimes I wonder how this man would function without his feedback loop


[06-Apr-20 10:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he probably wpouldnt


[06-Apr-20 10:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, what is the actual persistence of his memory


[06-Apr-20 10:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he would have had a mental breakdown about 2 months in if even the people he hired didnt play to his delusions


[06-Apr-20 10:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I of course know that without a squad of yes-men the man would physically disintegrate into a blob of saltwater, sorta like that one guy in X-men, but I do really wonder how much he really clings to stuff (like the things he brings up now regarding his election) and how much of it is just memento tattoos


[06-Apr-20 10:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's little evidence to me now that he even remembers anything he's done before taking office. A sycophant who enters his circle just becomes a "good friend" he's "known forever," whatever the status quo happens to be at any given moment is what he's always known, etc


[06-Apr-20 10:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Apr-20 10:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his father did die of alzheimers, so it's very possible Trump may be at a stage of it or something else of the sort


[06-Apr-20 10:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It also seems like he has major short term memory problems and can barely remember what he did or said the day before much less last month or year


[06-Apr-20 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It wouldn't surprise me if he uses fox news as a venting dump and then just immediately forgets what he told them as if it never happened


[06-Apr-20 12:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Hmoorkin

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[06-Apr-20 12:34 PM] Hmoorkin#2816
Yes


[06-Apr-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/acting-navy-secretary-quickly-fired-captain-before-trump-intervened-2020-4

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The acting Navy secretary says he swiftly fired an aircraft carrier...
While others reportedly favored an investigation, the acting Navy secretary rushed to relieve the captain before Trump felt the need to intervene.
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[06-Apr-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1246961377559883777?s=20

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Trump: “What do you have to lose [by taking an unproven drug]?”

President of the American Medical Association: “You could lose your life.
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[06-Apr-20 03:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have idea. Trump must prove that drug is harmless by taking it himself.


[06-Apr-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is, he is pill popping it or so he claims


[06-Apr-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/06/drug-treatment-trump-talks-covid-can-fatal-side-effect-cardiologists-warn/

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Untested Covid Treatment Trump Talks Up Can Have Fatal Side Effect,...
Covid-19 patients given hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin have an increased risk of dangerous irregular heartbeats that could be fatal.
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[06-Apr-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
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[06-Apr-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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USA STRONG!
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[06-Apr-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is the hulk now


[06-Apr-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1246925577967357953 oh good another one

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White House news conference at 6:45 P.M. Eastern. Thank you!
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[06-Apr-20 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I want him to try and prove it;s good against covid-19 by attmepting to take it on live tv


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[06-Apr-20 04:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Anyway it's going to be staged


[06-Apr-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, he'll probably just inject air into his veins instead


[06-Apr-20 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One could wish


[06-Apr-20 04:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Water.:hopeless:


[06-Apr-20 04:32 PM] illumnious#7938
American Airlines to temporarily suspend most flights from Miami to New York City
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American Airlines to temporarily suspend most flights from Miami to...
American Airlines will soon begin the temporary suspension of more flights to New York City amid the coronavirus pandemic, including most flights coming from Miami International Airport, the airline announced in a letter to employees from Senior Vice President of Operations Da...
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[06-Apr-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Apr-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
> I am a nurse practitioner working in an Urgent Care setting. The number of patients we are seeing a day has significantly dropped because people are doing as they are told, and STAYING HOME!! Which is exactly what they should be doing. First, my company furloughed half of the employees, then decreased the salary of those remaining by 10%. Then froze any use of PTO for the next 2 months. All while we are testing for COVID 19 patients daily. 😫 not to mention I have been using the same N95 mask and isolation gown for the last 2 weeks.


[06-Apr-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
so incorrect that he accidentally circled back around to the truth https://i.redd.it/2zvq25dx82r41.png

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[06-Apr-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/codytfenwick/status/1246918184898301952?s=19

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I wonder what he’ll call this “consortium.” The Union of American States? The American States United? Such a novel concept of the states acting as a single entity deserve a punchy name. https://t.co/BjEL9Y7p6I
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[06-Apr-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/090600c299a8cf07f5b44d92534856bc

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U.S. 'wasted' months before preparing for virus pandemic
WASHINGTON (AP) — After the first alarms sounded in early January that an outbreak of a novel coronavirus in China might ignite a global pandemic, the Trump administration squandered nearly two...
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[06-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What do u guys think about OPEC oil deal


[06-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's the deal?


[06-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Us Russia and Saudi planning to meet so they could discuss reduction of oil mining


[06-Apr-20 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Their own or someone else's?


[06-Apr-20 05:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Their own


[06-Apr-20 05:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So they can keep high prices


[06-Apr-20 05:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Canada were interested too


[06-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This means petrol price increase for me.


[06-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Common folk don't matter, what matters is that US shale oil industry doesn't collapse


[06-Apr-20 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lotta rich people would have to forego their 3rd mansion if that happens, completely unacceptable outcome


[06-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Currency already took massive hit. You have stonks, we have currency as stonk.


[06-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yup


[06-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But rouble a bit stabilize after Trump announced that OPEC meeting


[06-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How much is it now?


[06-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
76.5 per dollar


[06-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Used to be 80-81 week ago


[06-Apr-20 05:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And 67-68 before that corona outbreak


[06-Apr-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Apr-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is that ironic


[06-Apr-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
feels like many people read only 1 book in their lives.


[06-Apr-20 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1247156159896748032

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https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1247156159896748032
Soon we'll start “temporary interment”. This likely will be done by using a NYC park for burials (yes you read that right). Trenches will be dug for 10 caskets in a line.
 
It will be done in a dignified, orderly--and temporary--manner. But it will be tough for NYers to take....
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[06-Apr-20 07:45 PM] byte[]#2610
gonna be a big boom in the grave digging industry


[06-Apr-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
lol stonks are up 6%

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[06-Apr-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That acting Navy secretary is a fukking tool.


[06-Apr-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
He cites the usual "panic" BS while also explicitly saying he wants to avoid a repeat of Trump getting mad at anything going on.


[06-Apr-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the BS is that like, he thinks the captain would sit down and write a letter when under attakk by hypersonic missile. Clearly not command material.


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
to me, it seems like the coward fired the captain because if trump got involved, he'd be the one losing his job


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.foxnews.com/us/acting-navy-secretary-ousted-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-stupid-naive-coronavirus>
In a fiery address broadcast over the ship’s PA system, Modly warned soldiers against disclosing information to the media, saying Crozier’s letter was a "betrayal of trust, with me, with his chain of command."

> "It was a betrayal. And I can tell you one other thing: because he did that he put it in the public's forum and it is now a big controversy in Washington, D.C.,"
> 
> “Think about that when you cheer the man of the ship who exposed you to that…I understand you love the guy. It’s good that you love him. But you’re not required to love him,”


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He said that


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Over the ship's PA system


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To every crewman


[06-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism 101.


[06-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, @Crow


[06-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks appeasement of Trump is the best solution.


[06-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wouldn't be the one losing his job, but he thinks that Trump blowing up would be the worst possible thing.


[06-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he acts preemptively to make sure Trump's blowup is smaller.


[06-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then goes around getting everyone in line.


[06-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's a fascist enabler.


[06-Apr-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-secretary-blasts-fired-aircraft-carrier-captain

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Acting Navy Secretary blasts USS Roosevelt captain as ‘too naive or...
Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly reportedly made an unhinged speech to the crew members of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, in which he lashed out at former Capt. Brett E. Crozier and told sailors to stop complaining and do their jobs
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[06-Apr-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
this one goes into more detail


[06-Apr-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
and isn't fox news


[06-Apr-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
> “That's your duty,” Modly said. “Not to complain. Everyone is scared about this thing. And let me tell ya something, if this ship was in combat and there were hypersonic missiles coming in at it, you'd be pretty fucking scared too. But you do your jobs. And that's what I expect you to. And that's what I expect every officer on this ship to do, is to do your jobs.”


[06-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, further detail


[06-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Calling it a betrayal


[06-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
is actually very much against Navy rules


[06-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
you can be court martialled for that.


[06-Apr-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
If this guy gets confirmed as the actual Navy secretary, he is not making it a day into Biden's administration.


[06-Apr-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Under normal conditions, this would be grounds for impeachment.


[06-Apr-20 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
where does he call it a betrayal?


[06-Apr-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
more people dead? stonks rising rapidly


[06-Apr-20 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/wardcarroll/status/1247141067083919361

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Transcript of Acting SECNAV's recent 1MC remarks to the crew of Theodore Roosevelt. (He's aboard.) Long story short, he's convinced he did the right thing.
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[06-Apr-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[06-Apr-20 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
wow, even the daily caller seems flabbergasted by this


[06-Apr-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
OAN is the only news outlet I wouldn't expect to turn on Modly


[06-Apr-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.aerotime.aero/zivile.zalagenaite/24702-compass-airlines-to-cease-operations

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Compass Airlines to cease operations
Compass Airlines, a regional U.S. carrier, which has operated flights for American Airlines and Delta, is ceasing operations from April 2020, due to two “insurmountable obstacles” caused by the COVID-19 pandemic outbreak.
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[06-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Boris Johnson taken to intensive care


[06-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1247240533115670529

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BREAK: @BorisJohnson in intensive care.
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[06-Apr-20 09:24 PM] ononim#8141
Like to charge reblog to cast


[06-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are apparently now mad that Jill Biden calls herself "Dr. Biden"


[06-Apr-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does she have a doctorate?


[06-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In education, yes.


[06-Apr-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, neat


[06-Apr-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well then she has the legal definition to have doctor as a title


[06-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What makes it funny is that the people complaining are Bernie Bros who ignore that Bernie's wife also has a doctorate...in leadership studies


[06-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Whatever that is


[06-Apr-20 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder how much of that is troll-incited


[06-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Well duh. We only apprecieate women when it's convenient to our cause. :smugcaddy:


[06-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
(that was a joke)


[06-Apr-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only people who get doctorates who you should yell at for using "Dr." are lawyers


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[06-Apr-20 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there'll ever be a time when the stonks are up a huge amount and then drop a huge amount in the middle of the day


[06-Apr-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
like it's up 2k and then drops 3k


[06-Apr-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
you must make more sacrifices for The Line


[06-Apr-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
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[06-Apr-20 11:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I look forward to Alex Jones doing a whole episode about it


[06-Apr-20 11:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
should be a blast


[06-Apr-20 11:48 PM] jlun2#8758
so how many boomers believe that? > 50%?


[06-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1246792552407326721

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All eyes are on our hospitals right now, as they battle to save lives. 

But for most of us who contract #coronavirus, the battle will take place somewhere else: home.

You likely have many questions about this. Here are some answers. 1/
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[06-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
how legit is this? Looks pretty legit, as far as general guidelines go.


[07-Apr-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
legit/10


[07-Apr-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Coronavirus death toll now exceeds 3 9/11s


[07-Apr-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Ready for the point when it's a 9/11 per day?


[07-Apr-20 12:11 AM] ononim#8141
Americans will stop at nothing to not use metric system, smh


[07-Apr-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[07-Apr-20 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
it's one football field and 3.5 basketball courts long


[07-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: "Bush did 9/11"


[07-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke:


[07-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FufSxaIcNFo

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NEXTEL DID 9/11!
New EIT! DVD & Tour January 27th! More info at http://www.everythingisterrible.com/
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[07-Apr-20 12:17 AM] byte[]#2610
> You'd think that Trump, a President who won by 0.05% of the vote in three states, would be a little more mindful of the idea of letting even a tiny sliver of his supporters die.


[07-Apr-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
> That sounds like math, college-boy.


[07-Apr-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@LSMFET14/law-school-memes-for-edgy-t14s-endorses-joseph-sloppy-joe-biden-f4fd84d09f48

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Law School Memes for Edgy T14s Endorses Joseph “Sloppy Joe” Biden
Law School Memes for Edgy T14s (LSMFET14) is a Facebook group of over seventy-three-thousand law students, lawyers, and people interested…
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[07-Apr-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A classic worth reposting


[07-Apr-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Biden plagiarized a paper he submitted as a first-year law student and finished in the bottom quintile of his class while claiming for decades he graduated in the top half. But you know what else he did? Become senator of Delaware. He moved forward and overcame his blunders, somehow...He supported legislation that prevents people who attended graduate school from discharging student debt in bankruptcy[6], advocated vigorously for unilateral American military intervention in Iraq, and supported noted legal curmudgeon Clarence Thomas’ rise to the Supreme Court by promising he would be Thomas’ “most adamant and vigorous defender” against sexual assault accusations by Anita Hill."


[07-Apr-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
and I got the feeling he (and his boomer supporters) probably can't even remember any of the events mentioned


[07-Apr-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
misread as boner supporters


[07-Apr-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
> "The Prime Minister is being moved to the morgue as a precautionary step. He is currently resting in peace."


[07-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bankrupcy thing is crazy


[07-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden repeatedly said it was a good bill


[07-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
that was like its one major change


[07-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
he also says it is a mistake


[07-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but he's never indicated what he was thinking


[07-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bill created a huge problem for no reason and he never addresses it.


[07-Apr-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Wells Fargo is well known for its integrity with its associates and customers https://i.redd.it/06jzglddg8r41.jpg

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[07-Apr-20 01:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247204731455442944?s=20

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NEW: US surpasses 10,000 coronavirus-related deaths, as of 12:30 p.m. ET, April 6. https://t.co/UQEtLZeEi2
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[07-Apr-20 01:05 AM] illumnious#7938
> I wonder if there'll ever be a time when the stonks are up a huge amount and then drop a huge amount in the middle of the day
@Crow don't worry, it will fall back again


[07-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/wisconsin-primary-election-postponed-coronavirus.html

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Wisconsin Is Set to Vote on Tuesday After Court Overrules Governor’...
Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, ordered the presidential primary and thousands of local races delayed, but a conservative majority on the state’s Supreme Court said he could not unilaterally reschedule elections.
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[07-Apr-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Apr-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
This fucking movie still makes me want to run that character over with a car


[07-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kinda funny that they made this big fascist villain and everything, but he's overshadowed in hatred by this one woman they introduce as a minor antagonist.


[07-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just made her ridiculously on-point with the fascism.


[07-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like to use her as an analogy whenever it comes to effective villains or how fascism can seem nice.


[07-Apr-20 02:27 AM] jlun2#8758
pls make her voldemort 2.0


[07-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could make Voldemort as hated if he like, mind-wiped one of Harry's friends btw.


[07-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it would take a few scenes to get there.


[07-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She was a major antagonist in the book she was in, way more than the movie


[07-Apr-20 02:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Finally some good fucking news.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2020/0406/1128808-coronavirus-orange-parades/

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Twelfth of July parades cancelled due to Covid-19
The Orange Order has announced that this year's annual 12th of July parades have been cancelled due to Covid-19.
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[07-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/491466-supreme-court-blocks-wisconsin-from-extending-absentee-voting

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Supreme Court blocks Wisconsin from extending absentee voting
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday night ruled that Wisconsin cannot accept absentee ballots postmarked after its voting day Tuesday.
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[07-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Tom Riddle had a tragic backstory


[07-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RpxJT5w7Tc

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Why why why why why (Biden REMIX) [1 hour loop]
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[07-Apr-20 03:54 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU&feature=emb_title

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YouTube's Copyright System Isn't Broken. The World's Is.
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WRITTEN BY: Tom Scott
SCRIPT ASSISTANT: Andrea Marks
CAMERA: Jamie Drew
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AUDIO MIX: Graham Haer...
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[07-Apr-20 03:54 AM] ononim#8141
Hmmmm
My opinion about copyright laws, comapnies holding these rights, and lawyers defending it all strengthened


[07-Apr-20 04:14 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1247316027941281797

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The most senior Catholic jailed for child sexual abuse, Australian Cardinal George Pell, has his convictions quashed https://t.co/LIqrzMWO52
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[07-Apr-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Karen_Khive/status/1247298682413867017

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White women of color exist GET OVER IT. #NeverBernie
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[07-Apr-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
(parody acct)


[07-Apr-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dang, we'll hav to revise the leaderboards for most kids raped by celibates, they've decided his don't count. What an unfair ranking system.


[07-Apr-20 04:42 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnSILVWDKL8

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OAN: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
One America News, or OAN, is a far-right news network being embraced by President Trump at his coronavirus press briefings. John Oliver takes a look at who they are, how they report, and why they could be a big problem during the pandemic.

Connect with Last Week Tonight onlin...
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[07-Apr-20 04:52 AM] jlun2#8758
@ononim he's going to be unrepentant and rape more kids isn't he


[07-Apr-20 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
he's what, 78?


[07-Apr-20 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
it's more of a 'save face' thing


[07-Apr-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
rip, archive.is cert is bad


[07-Apr-20 08:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.navytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/04/04/dispatch-from-rome-former-theodore-roosevelt-skipper-should-be-praised-not-pilloried/

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Dispatch from Rome: Former Theodore Roosevelt skipper should be pra...
I was twice fired by the United Nations from senior supervisory positions: Both times for insisting that there are occasions when my first loyalty is to staff and mission ahead of allegiance to superiors.
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[07-Apr-20 08:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
since the news has already been covered, I'm posting this only on the grounds that it's an opinion piece coming from someone perfectly qualified to give one


[07-Apr-20 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Apr-20 09:52 AM] Crow#5457
the real snowflake


[07-Apr-20 10:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://mashable.com/article/coronavirus-unemployment-cobol-programmers/

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Coronavirus pandemic exposes urgent need for programmers of a very ...
It dates back to the 1960s and powers a lot of banking transactions.
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[07-Apr-20 10:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html

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By Peter Baker, Katie Rogers, David Enrich and Maggie Haberman
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Trump’s Aggressive Advocacy of Malaria Drug for Treating Coronaviru...
While Dr. Anthony Fauci has urged caution in using hydroxychloroquine, some doctors are prescribing it to patients who have the virus despite the fact it has never been tested for it.
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[07-Apr-20 10:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To nobody's surprise, Trump is an investor in the firm that makes that malaria drug


[07-Apr-20 10:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The "original programmers are either dead or 80" problem.


[07-Apr-20 10:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Apr-20 10:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
More and more asymptomatic infected cases are found in many places in China, especially Wuhan. These infected people tested positive of covid-19, but are with no obvious symptom. This is probably caused by the variation of covid-19.


[07-Apr-20 10:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is 0.15%-0.3%?


[07-Apr-20 10:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
According to the newest statistical data of RANDOM blood tests, probably 0.15%~0.3% people in Wuhan are asymptomatic infected, about ten or twenty thousand people.


[07-Apr-20 10:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Asymptomatic infected cases can usually be healed without medical treatment. However, they can spread the virus as 1/3 fast as normal cases.


[07-Apr-20 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah and quaranteening it is useless


[07-Apr-20 10:34 AM] Opponent#3498
even China can't organise testing for every single person out there


[07-Apr-20 10:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
These asymptomatic infect cases are very hard to be found, and may cause a second breakout at any time. Wuhan government is trying to find these persons among thousands of people as more as possible by using random blood tests and social relationship surveys.


[07-Apr-20 10:35 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why they have to do surveys if they already know everything?


[07-Apr-20 10:35 AM] Opponent#3498
cause that information is classified :D


[07-Apr-20 10:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Apr-20 10:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Dog meat ban caused fierce quarrels on our social medias


[07-Apr-20 10:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many protesters described dogmeat ban as "a degenerate thought of Westerners" and "an insult to our glorious Chinese traditional culture"


[07-Apr-20 10:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So familiar lol


[07-Apr-20 10:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While supporters says it's a thing that should have been done many years ago, and those protesters are all "persons without both heart and brain".


[07-Apr-20 11:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I remember similar about a range of atrocities done as cultural ritual.


[07-Apr-20 11:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, many persons here think that eating dog meat is a basic human right


[07-Apr-20 11:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk what logic this is...


[07-Apr-20 11:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I understand protein intake as basic need, but why dog specifically


[07-Apr-20 11:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why don't they eat pandas or northeast tigers


[07-Apr-20 11:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I never eat dog meat, but my grandma said dog meat is really delicious


[07-Apr-20 11:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While cat meat is sore


[07-Apr-20 11:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I know a factory here in the middle of desert that produce flavoured catfish, developing countries buy them as hotcakes to meet basic protein needs.


[07-Apr-20 11:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No one eat cats, but some persons we here love to abuse cats


[07-Apr-20 11:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Probably mental disease


[07-Apr-20 11:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We still have no laws about animal abuse


[07-Apr-20 11:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyone can kill or fuck homeless dogs


[07-Apr-20 11:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I thought it would be illegal to do something amoral like that.


[07-Apr-20 11:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
same in russia


[07-Apr-20 11:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is some law but its not working


[07-Apr-20 12:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And here also the same law "anti animal abuse"


[07-Apr-20 12:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Apr-20 12:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can some one find the original tweet?


[07-Apr-20 01:01 PM] illumnious#7938
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[07-Apr-20 01:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AiQBNn1EEQ0y11EGrZmgpWA

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Scientists rush to find coronavirus cure — but it still isn’t fast ...
Scientists are mobilizing at record speed to develop a vaccine and effective treatments. The pandemic is moving even faster.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQWlRQk5uMUVFUTB5MTFFR3JabWdwV0EAMA


[07-Apr-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/india-lifts-hydroxychloroquine-ban-after-trump-pressure-2020-4

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India lifted its ban on the export of hydroxychloroquine — Trump's ...
President Donald Trump threatened unspecified "retaliation" if India didn't lift its ban on the drug, which was introduced to protect domestic stocks.
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[07-Apr-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so trump is literally threatening other countries for this "miracle cure"


[07-Apr-20 02:02 PM] illumnious#7938
You could say that


[07-Apr-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-didnt-acknowledge-inspector-general-report-on-hospital-shortages-2020-4

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Trump dismissed a government report — based on surveys from more th...
The HHS Inspector General's report detailed "severe" shortages of crucial equipment at hospitals across the US. Trump called it "wrong."
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[07-Apr-20 02:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247382518376140800?s=21

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Vote today, Tuesday, for highly respected Republican, Justice Daniel Kelly. Tough on Crime, loves your Military, Vets, Farmers, & will save your 2nd Amendment. A BIG VOTE! https://t.co/1FPYjzZCoH
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[07-Apr-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/australian-catholic-cleric-george-pell-sexual-abuse-conviction-overturned-2020-4

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Australia's High Court overturns sexual abuse convictions for Georg...
Australia's High Court has overturned Pell's conviction for sexual abuse, allowing him to walk free in time for Easter.
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[07-Apr-20 02:15 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[07-Apr-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hhs-inspector-general-is-biased-report-on-hospital-shortages-2020-4

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'You will never make it': Trump mocks a reporter after he asked abo...
"Look, you're a third-rate reporter," Trump said to a news reporter. "And what you just said is a disgrace, ok?"
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[07-Apr-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, how long until an unhinged tempertantrum from people asking him real questions?


[07-Apr-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i give it 2 more press conferences


[07-Apr-20 03:33 PM] illumnious#7938
How an app could get the world back to normal life — and maybe save us from the next outbreak https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/behind-global-efforts-make-privacy-first-coronavirus-tracking-app-n1177871

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Behind the global efforts to make a privacy-first coronavirus track...
The hope is that smartphone tracking — combined with widespread testing — can help create a framework for cities to let people resume their lives.
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[07-Apr-20 04:25 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang people only hate eating dogs because they're "cute"

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[07-Apr-20 04:27 PM] jlun2#8758
>  combined with widespread testing 
I dont see that happening in the US ever


[07-Apr-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Apr-20 04:32 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm not surprise; Boris is white after all.


[07-Apr-20 04:34 PM] byte[]#2610
Julia, it's okay to be happy people are dying/dead, you don't have to be ashamed about it


[07-Apr-20 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491525-grisham-leaves-role-as-white-house-press-secretary

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Grisham leaves role as White House press secretary
Stephanie Grisham is leaving her position as White House press secretary after less than a year on the job, according to two people familiar with the matter.
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[07-Apr-20 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don't really need a press secretary when the president hires himself as his own press secretary


[07-Apr-20 04:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like she did shit before then, anyway


[07-Apr-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hadnt even heard of her till now


[07-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She mostly just insulted the press in general for daring to ask questions about anything


[07-Apr-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/491522-trump-maybe-well-cut-domestic-oil-production

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Trump: 'Maybe' we'll cut domestic oil production
President Trump said Monday that the U.S. may consider cutting domestic oil production if it would help to solve international production disputes that have led to a steep decline in prices.
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[07-Apr-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491528-surgeon-general-says-african-americans-are-at-higher-risk-for

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Surgeon General says African Americans are at 'higher risk' for cor...
Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Tuesday said African Americans are at a higher risk during the coronavirus pandemic as numbers revealing a disparity in cases and deaths is beginning to emerge from states.
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[07-Apr-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-nhs-intensive-care-nurses-doctors-ptsd-a9450731.html

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Doctors and nurses will need PTSD treatment after coronavirus peaks...
Expert in intensive care medicine says staff are already facing unprecedented toll on mental and physical health
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[07-Apr-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[07-Apr-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/social-distancing-concern-trump-pence-stopped-birx-treating-sick-grandchild-2020-4

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Deborah Birx's granddaughter's fever shot up to 105 degrees. She st...
Hearing that Deborah Birx, a doctor, didn't go home to help her 10-month-old granddaughter, President Trump said, "Good, I'm very happy about that."
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[07-Apr-20 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1247335425074696199

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[07-Apr-20 06:49 PM] Crow#5457
@AlchemistLiang


[07-Apr-20 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/07/one-most-brazen-acts-voter-suppression-modern-times-us-supreme-court-blocks-absentee

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'One of the Most Brazen Acts of Voter Suppression in Modern Times' ...
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg warned in a scathing dissent that the right-wing majority's ruling "will result in massive disenfranchisement."
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[07-Apr-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
> In a 5-4 decision (pdf) along party lines, the high court ruled that Wisconsin voters must hand-deliver their absentee ballots by the end of the day Tuesday or have them postmarked April 7 if their ballot is to be counted. The decision rewards Wisconsin Republicans and GOP groups that led the legal challenge against the extension of absentee voting until April 13.
> 
> Matthew DeFour, state politics editor at the Wisconsin State Journal, noted on Twitter following the ruling that "there is no postmark requirement in state law."
> 
> "The lower court judge changed the date, but did not add a postmark," DeFour said. "The U.S. Supreme Court has just written a new election law in Wisconsin."


[07-Apr-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-rejects-donald-trump-offer-help-boris-johnson-coronavirus-treatment-2020-4

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UK rejects Trump's offer to help with Boris Johnson's coronavirus t...
"Any treatment he receives is a matter for his doctors," the prime minister's spokesman said Tuesday after President Donald Trump reached out.
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[07-Apr-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yts2F44RqFw

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The Alt-Right Playbook: I Hate Mondays
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[07-Apr-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
so fascism has passed another major hurdle: getting the courts to agree with it


[07-Apr-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the tl;dw here is


[07-Apr-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives don't care about harm reduction


[07-Apr-20 07:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
to them, talking about how to reduce a problem instead of agreeing it's bad is the wrong morality


[07-Apr-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they ban things like abortion is to punish what they see as evil, not prevent it.


[07-Apr-20 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-removes-inspector-general-who-was-to-oversee-2-trillion-stimulus-spending/2020/04/07/2f0c6cb8-78ea-11ea-9bee-c5bf9d2e3288_story.html


[07-Apr-20 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> President Trump has removed the chairman of the federal panel Congress created to oversee his administration's management of the $2 trillion stimulus package.
> 
> Glenn Fine, who had been the acting Pentagon inspector general, was informed Monday that he was being replaced by Sean W. O’Donnell, currently the acting inspector general at the Environmental Protection Agency.


[07-Apr-20 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-removes-independent-watchdog-for-coronavirus-funds-upending-oversight-panel-171943

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Trump removes independent watchdog for coronavirus funds, upending ...
The move comes as Trump makes a broad push against inspectors general scrutinizing his actions.
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[07-Apr-20 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Glenn's not Fine it seems


[07-Apr-20 07:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/louisiana-pastor-coronavirus-cnn_n_5e8a31fdc5b6cc1e47776b9c

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CNN Host To Pastor: How Is It 'Pro-Life' To Pack People Into Church...
Tony Spell said he has a "command from God" to hold in-person services despite warnings from medical experts and state officials.
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[07-Apr-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you linking a huffpo article about something from a CNN show?


[07-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a layer of liberal bias immersing a nugget of faux liberalism.


[07-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like taking a tofu hot dog and wrapping it in pig intestine.


[07-Apr-20 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In revelations that shock no one, Trump and his allies are financially invested in the company that makes his miracle cure
<https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html>

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[07-Apr-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491561-trump-decries-ig-report-on-hospital-shortages-as-another-fake-dossier

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Trump decries IG report on hospital shortages as 'another fake doss...
President Trump on Tuesday ripped into a Health and Human Services (HHS) Inspector General over a report that found hospitals faced a shortage of protective equipment and testing to combat the coronavirus pandemic.
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[07-Apr-20 07:37 PM] ononim#8141

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[07-Apr-20 07:37 PM] ononim#8141
:bigbrain:


[07-Apr-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[07-Apr-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/491573-rand-paul-volunteering-at-hospital-after-negative-coronavirus-test

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Rand Paul volunteering at hospital after negative coronavirus test
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) announced Tuesday that he is volunteering at a local hospital after becoming coronavirus free.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/paulrand_011620gn7_lead.jpg


[07-Apr-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i feel like i need a week long break from politics, but if i do that i'm just going to come back to an aneurysm waiting for me as america fucking escalates behind my back


[07-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[07-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Trump strategy.


[07-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pile shit on so nothing stikks.


[07-Apr-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/491547-senate-democrats-propose-25000-hazard-pay-plan-for-essential-workers

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Senate Democrats propose $25,000 hazard-pay plan for essential workers
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats are proposing to give doctors, nurses and other essential workers, such as grocery store clerks, up to $25,000 in hazard pay as part of the phase four coronavirus relief bill
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gettyimages-1215752531.jpg


[07-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the bright side, it seems the rally-around-the-flag effect and Trump being on TV has stalled as far as an approval bump.


[07-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it stalled with still net disapproval.


[07-Apr-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/491406-susan-collins-firing-of-intelligence-community-watchdog-not-warranted

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Susan Collins: Firing of intelligence community watchdog 'not warra...
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[07-Apr-20 08:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump removes watchdog tapped for virus rescue oversight
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/04/07/trump-sidelines-watchdog-tapped-for-virus-rescue-oversight/

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Trump removes watchdog tapped for virus rescue oversight
President Donald Trump has sidelined the inspector general who was tapped to chair a special oversight board of the $2.2 trillion rescue package for businesses and individuals affected by the coronavirus.
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[07-Apr-20 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how many times that's gonna be linked today lol


[07-Apr-20 08:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/697141523615187064/4aa9857.jpg

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[07-Apr-20 08:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/04/06/california-sends-500-ventilators-back-to-national-stockpile-1272393

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https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/04/06/california-sends-500-ventilators-back-to-national-stockpile-1272393
California sends 500 ventilators back to national stockpile
Some California health officials have gained more confidence in recent days that the state's infection curve is flattening.
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[07-Apr-20 08:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
:B:ordiga be like
> no matter, you philosophers, if it is about future, part or present ones. For example I am, with a well discovered law, able to determine, how high the sea level was a thousand years ago; the only difference, that I cannot test, is, how much more you stink to high heaven today.


[07-Apr-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, that vid helps explain the deal with gay representation in media, @Itsthinking


[07-Apr-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't mind that there are lesbians in the bakkground. They already expect what they consider to be evil to *exist*.


[07-Apr-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their problems are with the ONE TRUE WAY containing it.


[07-Apr-20 09:00 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
as tosh says, "why do you care if they get married, they're all going to hell anyway"


[07-Apr-20 09:00 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
out of context that sounds bad :thonk2: 
he meant it sarcastically


[07-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Allowing them to get married is akin to saying they go to heaven.


[07-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why conservatives care.


[07-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want it condoned.


[07-Apr-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
In general, they very much *do* believe them going to hell anyways negates any problem with their existence.


[07-Apr-20 09:02 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
that's weird :thinkengh: 
but I guess as a degenerate I could never understand that view point


[07-Apr-20 09:02 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
to each their own. I don't see why marriage even exists anyway. financially the incentives don't really outweigh the risks post-divorce. And it all hinges on your monogamous love, which 100% fades and is more a test of personal loyalty and commitment then anything


[07-Apr-20 09:03 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
what a retarded institution to bring into the modern world


[07-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-risks-his-movement-s-clout-staying-race-against-biden-n1177111

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Sanders risks his movement's clout by staying in the race against B...
Analysis: The dynamics are different from 2016 when the senator from Vermont took on Hillary Clinton.
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[07-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[07-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative bullshit, pay no heed.


[07-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Person likely realizes that Bernie actually changes policies BY staying in.


[07-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
So makes exact opposite argument to try to stop it.


[07-Apr-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's ultimately just "if you don't win every election we should throw you out, liberal scum"


[07-Apr-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
How dare a candidate stay on when not able to win to try to affect our chosen one party leader.


[07-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's really funny, @Crow, cause like, for the argument here to be true


[07-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie would basically hav to either lose reelection in the Senate from staying in the race against Biden


[07-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
or be a nobody who isn't already in the Senate


[07-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
I really think this person actually doesn't know how important Bernie as a Senator is.


[07-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
All they talk about how is how bad it was for Hillary to hav tried to defeat Obama...which didn't fukking matter.


[07-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then they're like HE WILL LOSE CLOUT


[07-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
...how?


[07-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This person seems to think coming 2nd after a long-fought battle is far worse than dropping out day one.


[07-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like that if you lose *softer* that that hurts you somehow.


[07-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's gotta just be some faux justification.


[07-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Buy a dildo https://amzn.to/2yGmBwD , it's essential.


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[07-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
🚫 :sosmol: 🍆


[07-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why we need legal definitions on stuff.


[07-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Private companies don't even make the right decisions when they try.


[07-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Modly resigned


[07-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nice.


[07-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/thomas-modly-coronavirus-speech-resign-navy-172625

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Acting Navy secretary offers to resign over handling of virus-stric...
It is unclear whether Defense Secretary Mark Esper will accept the resignation.
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[07-Apr-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
Given Trump keeps spreading misinformation and doubt about this pandemic, I suppose the same thing will repeat next year, even if Trump isn't president right


[07-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I just gotta share the stupidest thing I've read all day, a guy calling for a "unity cabinet" under Biden


[07-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's what they want


[07-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
VP: Gretchen Whitmer. Secretary of the Treasury: Mike Bloomberg. Health and Human Services: Bill Gates.


[07-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Betsy Devos, Ryan Zinke, but also...


[07-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
wow


[07-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's even worse.


[07-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Attorney general, Merrick Garland; homeland security secretary, Andrew Cuomo; secretary of state, Mitt Romney; defense secretary, Michèle Flournoy; labor secretary, Ro Khanna


[07-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Secretary of national infrastructure rebuild, a new cabinet post, Walmart C.E.O. Doug McMillon; commerce secretary, former American Express C.E.O. Ken Chenault; O.M.B. director, Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio; education secretary, Laurene Powell Jobs; U.N. ambassador, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.


[07-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I sure want Wal-Mart in charge of bridges


[07-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh, that's a detail I missed


[07-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Modly didn't just say shit that would get him court-martialled if he was an officer


[07-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
he was swearing on the ship's PA system.


[07-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a big long rant about the media.


[07-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, imagine just broadcasting this channel on a Navy ship's PA system for half an hour.


[07-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, whole rant was recorded by crewmen that were like "wtf"


[07-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, thinking on it, the crew must've been *pissed*.


[07-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, their boss got fired for trying to protect them and then this asshole who's never been on a ship in his life until just then comes in and starts calling them all traitors for appreciating what the guy did to protect them.


[07-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is "get thrown down the stairs on your way out" level stuff.


[07-Apr-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Navy suicide +10%


[07-Apr-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Modly was a navy helicopter pilot back in the day


[07-Apr-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But yeah


[07-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
How do you spend 7 years as a Navy officer and do this?


[07-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did he like, never listen about proper decorum?


[07-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pilots can tend to be "hotshots"


[07-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooooh


[07-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of those guys who basically never made friends on-ship.


[07-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
in the AF there was something known as the "Fighter Mafia"


[07-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just big asshole that stayed with other pilots and got off as fast as possible.


[07-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
fighter pilots tend to get all the leadership positions


[07-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Honahue#0656
it was a big deal when a guy from Air Mobility got a top job


[07-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Honahue#0656
and Fighter Pilots are basically Karens cause they fly alone or with other officers so the enlisted are just incompetnet assholes to them


[07-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Honahue#0656
unless you're flying a helicopter with a gunner and an engineer you're going to be officer only


[07-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Honahue#0656
and that's like Chinooks and Hueys


[07-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Honahue#0656
Seakings too


[07-Apr-20 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
do US still have fighter pilots, or are they mostly remote strikes now


[07-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah they do


[07-Apr-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
how do ppl even fly hypersonic craft


[07-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Honahue#0656
all the predator drone pilots used to come from Fighter pilots because they carry weapons


[07-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
lots of training


[07-Apr-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
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[07-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Honahue#0656
I liked Real Engineering describing his experience with high G's, cause humans have never experience high G's in our entire evolutionary history until the last 100ish years when we made planes and his first experiene was like his brain trying to hit the Avatar state and call up past experience to deal with it and the best if got was when his great grandfather stood up too fast from harvesting potatos


[07-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Honahue#0656
Like Usain Bolt off the blocks can almost hit 1 G acceleration but that's not sustained


[07-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Honahue#0656
the mask pilots wear is to force air into their lungs cause there's no way a human could breathe during some manuvers


[07-Apr-20 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Honahue#0656
even in the OT god tells people if they are sick they can ignore some of the rules


[07-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Honahue#0656
fasting isn't required for the young, pregnant, nursing or ill


[07-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it amusing when catholics in the US are way more anal about customs 'n shit than those in Italy, France, or Spain


[07-Apr-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
@Honahue it's a dumb book written 2000 years ago who cares lol


[07-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Seriously?


[07-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was written 1800ish years ago


[07-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With most modern version being maybe 900ish years old


[07-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Whole lotta edits and omissions and additions since whatever the actual real Jesus said whatever, nevermind the old testament stuff


[07-Apr-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like most christians care about what the bible says except when exceptionally convenient to be a dick to people


[07-Apr-20 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
most of them haven't even read it


[07-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Reading only good parts


[07-Apr-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Tucker Carlson is Marxist https://v.redd.it/jt3ufinkdfr41

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[07-Apr-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ was reading even an essential skill during peak boomer time?


[07-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[07-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Couldn't read the boomer jokes in Reader's Digest otherwise


[07-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 sorry, what/


[07-Apr-20 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
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[07-Apr-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
`@millenial_republicans`


[07-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fax3xFE7VIg

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Live: Trump joins Coronavirus Task Force at White House press briefing
Expected live at 5 p.m. ET- The White House Coronavirus Task Force holds a press briefing.

FOX Business Network (FBN) is a financial news channel delivering real-time information across all platforms that impact both Main Street and Wall Street. Headquartered in New York — th...
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[08-Apr-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-coronavirus-abortion-ban-upheld-by-appeals-court-2020-4

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A federal appeals court ruled that Texas can ban most abortions due...
Texas and other states that previously pursued abortion restrictions have sought to crack down on abortion availability during the pandemic.
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[08-Apr-20 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
who would've imagined that roe vs wade would finally be overturned using a global pandemic as the excuse


[08-Apr-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah but


[08-Apr-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why now?


[08-Apr-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Governments always had the opportunity to tighten up their grip on power since years ago, why did they only do so during a pandemic?


[08-Apr-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
the appearance of legitimacy


[08-Apr-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
a random power grab doesn't look good and promotes resistance


[08-Apr-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
but people turn more conservative during times of crisis and are much more willing to give up basic rights in return for safety


[08-Apr-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"think of the people and how this could be dangerous for them in this time of crisis" tends to lead to less rebellion than just straight up doing it during normal affairs


[08-Apr-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh, but the conservative lawmakers are just trying to keep us safe and healthy! Are you trying to give expecting mothers the china virus?!"" will now be the general argument used by conservative voters to support this measure


[08-Apr-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile they'll also preach social distancing when this is brought up, but call social distancing a joke and a waste of time in any other context


[08-Apr-20 01:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@IAmADeliciousPotato to prevent derail, do politicians still push for factory jobs, or was that just a 2016 phase?


[08-Apr-20 01:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They still push, but I don't think they'll ever successfully get it


[08-Apr-20 01:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
simply put, the profit motive rails HARD against keeping factory jobs in the US


[08-Apr-20 01:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Patriotism doesn't equal profit; and having human labor in China is MUCH cheaper


[08-Apr-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
k ty


[08-Apr-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stock-market-news-today-indexes-fall-coronavirus-outbreak-slowing-economy-2020-4

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Dow erases 937-point gain and closes negative, as investors weigh n...
Major indexes surged in early trading before paring gains throughout the afternoon and closing in negative territory.
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[08-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
not stonks


[08-Apr-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491671-trump-considering-suspending-funding-to-who

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Trump considering suspending funding to WHO
President Trump said Tuesday that he would consider placing a hold on funding for the World Health Organization (WHO), expressing grievances with the organization’s handling of the novel coronavirus.
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[08-Apr-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491569-white-house-coronavirus-unit-ordered-to-work-from-home-after-positive

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[08-Apr-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491669-trump-says-he-didnt-see-navarro-memos-but-wouldnt-have-changed-course

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Trump says he didn't see Navarro memos but wouldn't have changed co...
President Trump on Tuesday said he had not seen memos from one of his top trade advisers warning in January of the consequences of a potential pandemic, but denied he would have acted differently if he had.
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[08-Apr-20 01:29 AM] jlun2#8758
so what does Trump think the handling should be ? completely ignore ?


[08-Apr-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how he's handling it now


[08-Apr-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
picking fights with states, hoarding supplies, making sure supplies are only funneled through privitized hands


[08-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
ignore it, call it lies, call it a suprise, etc


[08-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
there's been a '6-stage of Trump' list here before.


[08-Apr-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using the pandemic to pass rules that otherwise wouldnt have made it through


[08-Apr-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using it to pick fights with other countries


[08-Apr-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
touting a miracle drug that he has investment ties to


[08-Apr-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to him a pandemic is a time to make power moves. Fuck the people, the people won;t get him power


[08-Apr-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially not the people in those dirty, lord trump hating blue states


[08-Apr-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If he can't have his rallies, then he'll make his own using what are supposed to be helpful informative press conferences to yell hateful shit at journalists trying to get real information


[08-Apr-20 01:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/trump-threatens-world-health-organization-funding-171859

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Trump announces, then reverses, freeze on funding for World Health ...
The president also blasted the U.N. agency’s early recommendations for countering the coronavirus.
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[08-Apr-20 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hell yeah mass death time


[08-Apr-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[08-Apr-20 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
tonight's stonks

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[08-Apr-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-nurse-bought-protective-supplies-for-her-colleagues-using-gofundme-the-hospital-suspended-her

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A Nurse Bought Protective Supplies for Her Colleagues Using GoFundM...
She raised more than $12,000 to buy and distribute protective gear for her colleagues, who say they felt inadequately protected against COVID-19. How a confrontation in one of the nation’s Coronavirus hotspots illustrates a troubling national trend.
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[08-Apr-20 01:55 AM] jlun2#8758
easter is this weekend. so does anyone know if conservatives are still planning on that mass gathering?


[08-Apr-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the church, but chances are the mega churches who can open, will open


[08-Apr-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also yes, that mass gatherign will likely happen


[08-Apr-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because it's not about god anymore, it;s about sticking ti to the *liberal* CDC for telling them what to do


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
> easter is this weekend. so does anyone know if conservatives are still planning on that mass gathering?
@jlun2 pffffffffff nah


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
> because it's not about god anymore, it;s about sticking ti to the liberal CDC for telling them what to do


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This misunderstands.


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two are the same thing.


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] jlun2#8758
god hates CDC


[08-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't is secular, so it is seen as a challenge to god.


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus to follow god is to stikk it to the gov't.


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
> The gov't is secular
wait really?


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Supposed to be*


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even with Republicans in power, yes.


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because the gov't isn't directly theocratic enuff.


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreover, society as a whole is secular.


[08-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The church is seen as an exception, which must be boosted to ruling.


[08-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The growing spread of secularism and the gov't not stopping it make them fear the gov't.


[08-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they don't want to vaccinate their kids.


[08-Apr-20 02:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> The growing spread of secularism and the gov't not stopping it make them fear the gov't.
> That's why they don't want to vaccinate their kids.
I can totally imagine protesters with signs saying 
GOD HATE VAXS
with V and X written over F and G

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[08-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
GOD HATES DOCTORS


[08-Apr-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are actually people who argue that doctors are an affront to god as god will jsut heal their loved ones through prayer and if he doesn;t then they just weren't meant to live.


[08-Apr-20 02:04 AM] jlun2#8758
and they're all concentrated in america right


[08-Apr-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not like doctors could possibly be god's answers to those prayers


[08-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-reportedly-has-financial-interest-in-hydroxychloroquine-manufacturer

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Trump Has ‘Financial Interest’ in Hydroxychloroquine Manufacturer: ...
The president’s family trusts all invest in a mutual fund whose largest holding is the drugmaker of Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.
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[08-Apr-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of them, very much so


[08-Apr-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
financial ties make all the difference in trrump's decisions, he;s willing to threaten literal war over them


[08-Apr-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also probably another reason he's hoarding the ventilators and PPE so it creates a more desperate demand for the drug as a last resort


[08-Apr-20 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
i wonder would this backfire :ponythinking:


[08-Apr-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will get his followers quite literally killed


[08-Apr-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will also get non covid-19 patients killed when they can;t get access to the drug he;s touting because it;s a drug used to treat lupus and malaria


[08-Apr-20 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/8Cq78BTUyfU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cq78BTUyfU
The American people are tired of women, Bernie sanders rally
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[08-Apr-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> The American people are tired of women, Bernie sanders rally
so does that mean the angry (white) men are going to finally embrace the fact they're all men and just be gay


[08-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, good news is the US death toll for COVID-19 shows slowing, down to doubling every 4 days


[08-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad news: We're only behind Italy


[08-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we'll pass it in 2 days.

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[08-Apr-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
so its going to be over? no 1m deaths?


[08-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's 9/11s per day time this week.


[08-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just...100,000


[08-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
200,000 probably when we get our shit together and look bakk at records.


[08-Apr-20 02:19 AM] jlun2#8758
for future ref
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

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Covid Trends
Visualizing the exponential growth of COVID-19 across the world.
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[08-Apr-20 02:20 AM] jlun2#8758
italy and spain slowing down in deaths


[08-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're starting to slow down.


[08-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But only just.


[08-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It went from doubling every 3 days to every 4


[08-Apr-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
could accelerate if people break isolation for easter mass or something


[08-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As soon as the NY numbers go down


[08-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People in other places will feel complacent


[08-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much'll be "look it only hurt the libs, haha let's go economy"


[08-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
- Boomer who dies a week later


[08-Apr-20 02:24 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm not convinced it isn't the millenial killer in america


[08-Apr-20 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it'll kill millenials, boomers, zoomers, gen x. but really the long term harm coems from how boomers are using it to make power moves they would otherwise have total resistance to


[08-Apr-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
I doubt the those moves would ever be reverted


[08-Apr-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has basically used this to create a puntinesque board of council to do his bidding for him no questions asked


[08-Apr-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if an obstacle shows up, he just fires them and replaces them with a yesman


[08-Apr-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the media are his enemy because they try to obtain factual information instead of spreading his misinformation like obedient worms, and he can't just fire them because they aren't his employees so all he can do is try to tear them down in the manner a dictator typically would


[08-Apr-20 02:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was also because he has a super fragile ego and can't stand any hints that he might be wrong


[08-Apr-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[08-Apr-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is literally on the verge of a mental breakdown because they ask real questions backed up with facts that contradict everything he says instead of sucking up to him like OANN and the my pillow guy


[08-Apr-20 02:40 AM] jlun2#8758
that would be interesting to see live


[08-Apr-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was threatened by a reporter asking him to provide words of encouragement to the very people he leads, because it was perceived as someone questioning his authority


[08-Apr-20 02:42 AM] jlun2#8758
> perceived as someone questioning his authority
that sounds like every parent I've encountered


[08-Apr-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of giving an inspirational speech to lead the people through these times, he berated and mocked the reporter venomously while attacking the network they worked for


[08-Apr-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That was his moment to shine and actually portray himself as a competent leader, and instead he doubled down on his spite and tried to verbally murder the person who asked it


[08-Apr-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wouldn't have been a competent leader sure, but he could have at least pretended to be one in that very moment


[08-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBYxXSUDV8o

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The Infographics Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBYxXSUDV8o
Could The US Defend From An Invasion of the Homeland
The US has ticked off every other country in the entire world for the last time. An all out attack against US is coming, but will the US military and navy be able to handle this heavy battle as enemies breach US soil from all sides. Find out today if the US army can withstand ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lBYxXSUDV8o/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
this is a surprisingly good video so far (3 minutes in)


[08-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
ok, it's bad after 3 minutes, stopped watching at 5:45 lol


[08-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
it was good while it was going through the historical stuff, but it turned bad as soon as it started getting into the details of a hypothetical invasion


[08-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any invasion would start with air-blasted nukes along the canadian border


[08-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pointless to try otherwise


[08-Apr-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Along the Canadian border?


[08-Apr-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is Canada invading?


[08-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No; less prortected then trying to reach inner america, EMP reaches most of country anyways, and you fuck over the state's main ally along the way


[08-Apr-20 02:56 AM] jlun2#8758
did it just started going AMERICAN NUMBER 1 after 3 mins? @Crow


[08-Apr-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[08-Apr-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh Canada should invade the US


[08-Apr-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bring decent healthcare to the Americans :twismug:


[08-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
no, it's unrealistic


[08-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
and over the top


[08-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
seemingly just for the point of making entertaining visuals


[08-Apr-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Call of Duty vibes


[08-Apr-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Modern Warfare 3 was ridiculous in particular


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
I kept watching it, at the very least it does emphasize that the geography is the main deterrent later


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're not going to be bombing cities


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With that "Russia invades America" level


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
you would need a tiny fraction of the military might the US has to defend the continent


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
I want CoD there Iran invides US


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
but it is actually Iranina propaganda played stright


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're going to be air blasting nukes for the EMP effect and doing surgical strikes on power plants, dams, bridges, water processing, etc


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
and you massacre infidels


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
do games like HoI4 take into account geography when invading countries for difficulty?


[08-Apr-20 02:59 AM] ononim#8141
inshallah


[08-Apr-20 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow it's harder to assault a ttile that is hilly or mountains


[08-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
what about deserts


[08-Apr-20 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
plus some bigger mts and desserts are plain untraverseble


[08-Apr-20 03:00 AM] ononim#8141
so you can't invide west africa from the north


[08-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
because invading the US through mexico would be a logistical nightmare not just because of the lack of cover, but the harsh terrain as well


[08-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You just don't invade


[08-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
but I remember watching a HoI video where the US seems to be easily invaded through mexico


[08-Apr-20 03:01 AM] ononim#8141
ai is sometimes


[08-Apr-20 03:01 AM] ononim#8141
very stupid


[08-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You break the infrastructure, break the economy, morale, society, wait for anarchy, come in as a saviour of the people


[08-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
that was literally the US stratagy in Iraq and it was not good "we'll be seen as liberatos" is incredibly stupid


[08-Apr-20 03:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[08-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, assuming you even want to invade


[08-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure why you'd want to


[08-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you "destroy" the country there's no reason to try and keep it so long as you can keep it from rising again


[08-Apr-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[08-Apr-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But shelling the US means they'll be shelling you too


[08-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but the fall of America would lead to a global economic disaster


[08-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure


[08-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the current world any sort of play against the US, EU, Russia, China, and a few others is basically MAD


[08-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Regardless of nukes


[08-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
what happened to archive.is?


[08-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
the certificate is bad


[08-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does not match the server’s certificate.


[08-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Crow#5457
their last twitter post is from about a week ago https://twitter.com/archiveis

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[08-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing on their blog about it either https://blog.archive.today/

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[08-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
huh, it's working fine on chrome


[08-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
but it's not working on firefox


[08-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
I hit accept the risk and am now getting a 403 error


[08-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is going on


[08-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/ev0lit/archivetoday_and_dns_over_https/

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r/firefox - Archive.today and DNS over HTTPS
13 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit


[08-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Crow#5457
it seems to be tied back to the "Enable DNS over HTTPS" setting in firefox's network settings


[08-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
disabling it didn't fix the problem, but changing the provider from Cloudflare to NextDNS seemed to fix it


[08-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
and apparently it has something to do with cloudflare not supporting something called ECS


[08-Apr-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-covid-19-shows-unacceptable-disparities-for-african-americans-2020-4

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Dr. Fauci says the coronavirus is 'shining a bright light' on 'unac...
Fauci said the coronavirus' impact on African Americans is shining "a very bright light on some of the real weaknesses and foibles in our society."
https://i.insider.com/5e8d0d9ab3b0920f615f0e73?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-Apr-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wisconsin-gop-leader-says-voting-safe-dressed-ppe-gear-2020-4

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Watch Wisconsin's Assembly Speaker tell voters it is 'incredibly sa...
Speaker Robin Vos argued that drive-through and curbside voting was safe. But with fewer polling places, some voters had to stand in line for hours.
https://i.insider.com/5e8cf8d98427e975c019f77a?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-Apr-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> Fauci said the coronavirus' impact on African Americans is shining "a very bright light on some of the real weaknesses and foibles in our society."
I'm pretty sure nothing would change


[08-Apr-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
this time I feel like I agree with you.


[08-Apr-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
US has made it's choice on treating it's population as entirely expendable, ultimately from the ground up


[08-Apr-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
a simple virus with a fraction of a percent worth of death toll would not change that


[08-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/07/politics/wisconsin-robin-vos-protective-gear/index.html

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Republican Wisconsin assembly speaker wears protective gear while t...
Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, a Republican, wore a mask, gloves and other protective gear as he sought to assure voters it was "incredibly safe" to vote in person for Tuesday's election amid the coronavirus pandemic.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200407193938-wisconsin-robin-vos-protective-gear-super-tease.jpg


[08-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comedy States of America


[08-Apr-20 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
🤡


[08-Apr-20 04:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Question I have is how did this guy get such ready access to a ton of PPE just to be a goof-off in a video, because he's clearly not taking this seriously


[08-Apr-20 05:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[08-Apr-20 05:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
More than 40k now


[08-Apr-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
FOR THE EMPEROR


[08-Apr-20 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tag urself, I am Cthulu Materialism

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[08-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
Jeb Bush Presidency seems attractive.


[08-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's based entirely around making the map only say Jeb.


[08-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/07/coronavirus-relief-trump-removes-inspector-general-overseeing-2-trillion-package.html

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Trump removes inspector general overseeing $2 trillion coronavirus ...
The president has removed acting Pentagon Inspector General Glenn Fine, who was tapped last week to lead the committee charged with overseeing the $2 trillion coronavirus relief package.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106479347-1586299419447aaa.jpg?v=1586299448


[08-Apr-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Here we gooo


[08-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will enjoy your state-ordained children reciting the Jeb of Allegiance while eating their luxury gay space communism.


[08-Apr-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> This is the most damaging and openly corrupt act he has taken in office and that is an *extremely* high bar. He just created a multi trillion dollar slush fund to bail out his donors, starve out their competitors, save his distressed properties, and perhaps even get Deutsche off his back. And the very act of doing this has now made the second relief bill, which is now clearly needed and market rally was anticipating, functionally dead. Why would the Dems give him another blank check for hundreds of billions after he just made clear this is a full kleptocracy?


[08-Apr-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look, he wants a return to the spoils system.


[08-Apr-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why an outsider who has no political experience or exposure is bad.


[08-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
@AaronMk Pansexual Internationale I think.


[08-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Business is run by the spoils system, government is not.


[08-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Government is not a business and should not be ran like one.


[08-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want government to be a business just have an absolute monarchy.


[08-Apr-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole point of the modern liberal republic is to tie up government in inefficiency so nothing gets done.


[08-Apr-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Washington does nothing!" is the _point_


[08-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways let's play a game, since I'm playing it in another server. Provided I remember to scroll up to check, guess the writer of this quote before the morning:
> The revolutionaries will not wait for a decree to expropriate the bourgeoisie, but everywhere and at the beginning - they will replace capitalist production with communist production, so that the future Revolution, as Kropotkine warns us, does not lack bread! It is therefore necessary that the revolutionary minority today acquires the technical capacity to reorganize economic production on the new bases of justice, on the day in which capitalist companies will be expropriated.


[08-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna throw out Trotsky as a wild guess.


[08-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
speaking of Trotsky, I would be curious to look at a timeline where Stalin died and Trotsky wasn't assassinated and see how the USSR would've functioned under his leadership instead. they might've had a slightly better time of ww2.


[08-Apr-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/491652-mcgrath-outraises-mcconnell-in-q1

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McGrath outraises McConnell in first quarter
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's Democratic opponent Amy McGrath outraised the longtime Republican senator in the first quarter of 2020 as Kentucky’s Senate race emerges as one of the most expensive battles of the election cycle.
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[08-Apr-20 10:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491671-trump-considering-suspending-funding-to-who

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Trump considering suspending funding to WHO
President Trump said Tuesday that he would consider placing a hold on funding for the World Health Organization (WHO), expressing grievances with its handling of the novel coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_040720getty.jpg


[08-Apr-20 10:39 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Again?


[08-Apr-20 10:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-07/hospitals-washington-seize-coronavirus-supplies

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Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies...
As hospitals battle the coronavirus, they're baffled as the Trump administration seizes hard-to-stock medical supplies.
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[08-Apr-20 10:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Dafuq


[08-Apr-20 10:51 AM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ kleptocracy


[08-Apr-20 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another article mentioned they;re giving those seized medical supplies to private companies to resell, but i could be linking 2 problems together thAT aren't actually linked


[08-Apr-20 11:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-fauci-says-just-forget-shaking-hands-after-coronavirus-2020-4

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Fauci says people should 'just forget about shaking hands' even aft...
"We don't need to shake hands," Dr. Anthony Fauci said, adding that it was a big transmitter of respiratory illness. "We've got to break that custom."
https://i.insider.com/5e8d1f260b3c9b02eb5df824?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-Apr-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/491687-phase-four-virus-relief-hits-a-wall

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Phase-four virus relief hits a wall
Pressure is building on Congress to pass another round of coronavirus relief legislation, but Republicans and Democrats have different ideas about what’s needed and how fast.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_schumercharles_012920bc_lead.jpg


[08-Apr-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/491702-cdc-updates-website-to-remove-guidance-on-drug-touted-by-trump

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CDC updates website to remove dosage guidance on drug touted by Trump
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) removed guidance from its website regarding drugs touted by President Trump as possible treatments for the coronavirus amid disputes over their effectiveness.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_cdccoronaviruscases_030420getty_0.jpg


[08-Apr-20 02:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wuhan lifted all the traffic restrictions 20 hours ago


[08-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cant wait for covid sequel


[08-Apr-20 02:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
> I'm gonna throw out Trotsky as a wild guess.
@Nebbie 
Wrong, Mussolini during his young AnCom phase


[08-Apr-20 02:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like the speed of infection in New York is slowed down


[08-Apr-20 02:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But no idea about the condition of other states... How many states are there in the US?


[08-Apr-20 02:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
40? Or 50?


[08-Apr-20 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
50


[08-Apr-20 02:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I just slept all the geography classes...


[08-Apr-20 02:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
50 + DC + some other places like Guam or Puerto Rico


[08-Apr-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And afaik increasing rapidly in Illinois, Michigan, and Louisiana


[08-Apr-20 02:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
mardi gras visitors just kinda spread the disease like buckshot across the south and midwest


[08-Apr-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how far easter will spread it


[08-Apr-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-tells-sean-hannity-the-us-has-plenty-of-ventilators-2020-4

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Trump tells Sean Hannity the US has plenty of ventilators and cites...
Researchers at Harvard Medical School predict the US could require up to 31 times the number of ventilators it has.
https://i.insider.com/5e8dd09f92e8ba3202652b56?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-Apr-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/major-news-events-you-missed-in-the-last-week-2020-4

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10 major news events no one paid attention to in the last week beca...
The coronavirus pandemic has been dominating headlines for months. Here are 10 major world events that you may have missed out on last week.
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[08-Apr-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491735-trump-republicans-should-fight-very-hard-against-expanded-mail-in

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Trump: Republicans 'should fight very hard' against expanded mail-i...
President Trump on Wednesday urged Republicans to "fight very hard" against expanding mail-in voting, portraying ballot access as a partisan issue amid concerns that the ongoing coronavirus pandemic will make going to the polls unsa
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_040220getty_attackads.jpg


[08-Apr-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
This might backfire hard


[08-Apr-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP voters are pretty old and concentrating old people in one place is a pretty robust way to get COVID spread


[08-Apr-20 05:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also sends a nice message to deployed military, given most sort of have to vote by mail


[08-Apr-20 05:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(nevermind normal expats)


[08-Apr-20 05:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hmmm, sounds convenient.


[08-Apr-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
military were mostly not voting for trump anyway


[08-Apr-20 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[08-Apr-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
What curve exactly? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247908643527409665?s=21

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[08-Apr-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-drops-out-suspending-campaign/

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Bernie Sanders suspends presidential campaign, clearing way for Bid...
Sanders had a strong finish in early primaries but faltered after Super Tuesday
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[08-Apr-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Why


[08-Apr-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Why


[08-Apr-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
We don’t want that fat fuck to win again


[08-Apr-20 05:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, unless something incredible happens, I guess this means we've got Biden as the democratic candidate


[08-Apr-20 05:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So long as he's still a senator I'm good with Sanders


[08-Apr-20 05:40 PM] illumnious#7938
I don’t care


[08-Apr-20 05:40 PM] illumnious#7938
Right now twitter is one hella fun with that trend


[08-Apr-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which trend?


[08-Apr-20 05:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for Trump, I really think it'd take a coup to be rid of his influence, 'cause he's stacked the system against democracy


[08-Apr-20 05:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or rather, he enabled a whole bunch of people who've been hoping to get that done for years


[08-Apr-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would take a forest fire to clear the vines he's tangled in the political trees


[08-Apr-20 05:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they shoulda just raked smh


[08-Apr-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
> which trend?
@prism stryder(intexda)  "BERNIE DROPPED OUT"


[08-Apr-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, guess i have to vote for biden now...


[08-Apr-20 05:43 PM] illumnious#7938
And those

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[08-Apr-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Did boris johnson die? Feel like it'd be huge headlines so I am doubting that source


[08-Apr-20 05:44 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[08-Apr-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now johnson is in intensive care


[08-Apr-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but as far as i know he hasnt died...yet


[08-Apr-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
My johnson needs some intensive care :sad:


[08-Apr-20 05:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
best I can tell, Sanders dropping out may have been in large part over avoiding a contested convention


[08-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Considering the convention would be in August, it'd be a mess to organize around the winner in just 2.5 months


[08-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think the real problem is that it would take 2 months to get bakk to campaigning.


[08-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So there'd be like 2 weeks of sending out letters or whatever and then bam, convention


[08-Apr-20 05:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right, plus I think Sanders would just like to *do his job* right now


[08-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[08-Apr-20 05:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden has no such obligations


[08-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even so, Biden is pretty much in hiding with the virus around.


[08-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neither candidate could campaign.


[08-Apr-20 05:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The question is, now that there is only one practical blue candidate, can Bloomberg effectively leverage his "blue no matter who" campaign he was trying to launch without getting tangled in campaign finance violations


[08-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He just needs to run attack ads against Trump, not endorse Biden


[08-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is enforcing those.


[08-Apr-20 05:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he really does need to get better at attacking Trump though


[08-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And probably loads of ads for senators


[08-Apr-20 05:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
burnt steak is one thing, dead grandma is another


[08-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter.


[08-Apr-20 05:54 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Apr-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247914464319504385?s=21

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Bernie Sanders is OUT! Thank you to Elizabeth Warren. If not for her, Bernie would have won almost every state on Super Tuesday! This ended just like the Democrats & the DNC wanted, same as the Crooked Hillary fiasco. The Bernie people should come to the Republican Party, TRA...
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[08-Apr-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/-200-000-000-000-in-coronavirus-relief-may-get-lost-to-fraud-81765445624

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$200,000,000,000 in coronavirus relief may get lost to fraud
Fraud is always a problem when it comes to big government spending, but what about the $2 trillion coronavirus emergency relief plan? We discuss how much could be lost with Neil Barofsky who was the Special Inspector General of TARP in 2008.
https://media13.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/202004/n_bwms_fraud_200407_1920x1080.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-Apr-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
more than*
will*


[08-Apr-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh


[08-Apr-20 06:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247919539809128451?s=21 meanwhile

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Wow, Bernie is unwilling to give up his delegates, and wants more of them! What’s that all about?
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[08-Apr-20 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
america I am confusion


[08-Apr-20 06:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does Trump think that delegate votes he's already earned in other primaries become up for grabs when a candidate drops out?


[08-Apr-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Wingbutt


[08-Apr-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump doesn't think


[08-Apr-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
You made a critical error in starting off with "Does Trump think that"


[08-Apr-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
right lemme amend that


[08-Apr-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*does the person who gave trump this idea* really think that's how delegates work


[08-Apr-20 06:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, *someone* had to have told him, I'm not really sure where the inspiration came from


[08-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In the near vacuum of his mind random ideas are less likely to be formed, but their collisions produce more surprising results


[08-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody gave him this idea.


[08-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
You assume Trump talks to people about how things work.


[08-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Critical mistake.


[08-Apr-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump remembers shit from 40 years ago halfway, then comes up with how things must work, then tells other people.


[08-Apr-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
He only gets new information if Fox News talks about stuff he cares about, or someone tells him about a way he can make money.


[08-Apr-20 06:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you mean OAN?


[08-Apr-20 06:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fox isn't his friend anymore


[08-Apr-20 06:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.reddit.com/r/PresidentialRaceMemes/comments/fx8mlo/can_we_get_an_f_in_the_chat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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r/PresidentialRaceMemes - can we get an f in the chat
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[08-Apr-20 06:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think I got it


[08-Apr-20 06:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
someone reported on his "The Bernie people should come to the Republican Party, TRADE" quote and he re-interpreted that to apply to delegates as well


[08-Apr-20 06:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
as if this were a caucus


[08-Apr-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mnuchin-on-trump-firing-watchdog-we-very-much-support-oversight-2020-4

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Treasury Secretary Mnuchin says 'we very much support oversight' on...
Despite the IG tapped to oversee stimulus spending being sacked, Mnuchin said "president thought the appropriate oversight was very important."
https://i.insider.com/5e8ddaa90b3c9b3231023d22?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-Apr-20 07:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keyword: appropriate. Meaning: Trump-biased.


[08-Apr-20 07:13 PM] jlun2#8758
so Trump becomes a trillionaire, and post presidency the entire GOP defends him right


[08-Apr-20 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man fuck the DNC.


[08-Apr-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Political parties are a mistake.


[08-Apr-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate how they brainwashed Bernie Sanders so he was incapable of building a coalition that includes black people.


[08-Apr-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's totally their fault.


[08-Apr-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Apr-20 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y'know


[08-Apr-20 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If i was an American citizen


[08-Apr-20 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd just put a huge sticker on the back of the car i'd own that reads "FUCK THIS COUNTRY" with a crossed-out US flag on top of it just to see how passersby would react


[08-Apr-20 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like that Japanese activist in *The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On*


[08-Apr-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
So, are 3D printed ventilators still a thing, or was that shut down by lawyers?


[08-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Valves only.


[08-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ventillators as a whole are complex systems.


[08-Apr-20 07:55 PM] jlun2#8758
ah ty


[08-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What they needed was masks with the proper tubes and valves


[08-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically a ventillator is a computer, pump, oxygenator, and tubes and everything all together in a discrete system.


[08-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're not at the point technologically where you can throw that together from common components and 3D prints, tho we're close.


[08-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/697501242116538689/rif-1586367646542.jpg

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[08-Apr-20 08:00 PM] ononim#8141
America, it's been four years! Which child caging, civilian bombing rapist senile old man do you want to be the president?


[08-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://theweek.com/speedreads/906388/secret-service-signed-emergency-order-week--30-golf-carts

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The Secret Service signed an 'emergency order' this week — for 30 g...
The Secret Service signed an 'emergency order' this week to rent $45,000-worth of golf carts in the town of Sterling, Virginia, where President Trump has a golf course, The Washington Post reports. The 30-cart fleet, which the Secret Service is renting through the end of Septe...
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[08-Apr-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
what is with old men and golf
meanwhile im just content with video game golf


[08-Apr-20 08:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Relief dollars at work


[08-Apr-20 08:08 PM] Crow#5457
> I remember when Obama was first elected. All the republicans were saying he would hire his friends and family. Now we have a president who hired some of his kids and spouses to help run the government. How is a real estate agent and a hand bag designer gonna save us from a virus ?


[08-Apr-20 08:10 PM] jlun2#8758
Using the power of superior Trump genes of course


[08-Apr-20 08:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/joe-biden-socialist-narrative/?os=dd

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The 'Joe Biden is a socialist' narrative has already begun
After Bernie Sanders drops out, conservatives waste no time trying to rebrand former Vice President Joe Biden as a socialist.
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Joe-Biden-e1586365463340.jpg


[08-Apr-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Yawn


[08-Apr-20 08:33 PM] illumnious#7938
bleh


[08-Apr-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. it works


[08-Apr-20 08:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That might work for their base and centrists


[08-Apr-20 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the problem is, if there *are* any former bernie supporters who would give conservatives the time of day, wouldn't it be counterproductive to try and convince them Biden is anything like Sanders was, if the goal is to get them on team Trump?


[08-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcJ-0bAHB4

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Run out of Alabama! | Offensive cars | Top Gear | Series 9 | BBC
As the boys (and the film crew) will now admit, this is the scariest challenge they ever faced in the history of the show. "Survival Challenge in Alabama": Drive through Alabama with offensive slogans painted on their cars and try not to get killed. Things are tense on the hig...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pKcJ-0bAHB4/sddefault.jpg


[08-Apr-20 08:50 PM] Midknight#9798
So... you remember what happened the last time millions of working stiffs suddenly had lots of free time with their families? Baby boom.

We're gonna have another one of those. The next generation is hereby doomed to be known as the "New Boomers"


[08-Apr-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
hereby boomed


[08-Apr-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought kids are expensive as fuck now


[08-Apr-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
they are


[08-Apr-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
also contraception is way more of a thing now than it was in the 1950s


[08-Apr-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I would love to have a mini me, but I'm poor
I wasn't planning to, but the crayfish article convinced me it was technically possible


[08-Apr-20 09:05 PM] Honahue#0656
nah, mellenials aren't going to have kids, this will be a podcast boom though


[08-Apr-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
We also have a shit ton of other things to do


[08-Apr-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Gaming. Lots of that.


[08-Apr-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's peak gaming time right now.


[08-Apr-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like community servers in TF2 are full up but that's because bots have invaded matchmaking.


[08-Apr-20 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
And the baby boom was more a lot of returning soldiers coming home from the war and getting married and having kids off their hella war pensions, and a several years of restricted spending because no consumer commodities were being made.


[08-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Honahue#0656
also there was AM radio and maybe 1 in 20 people had a TV


[08-Apr-20 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
So when the war ended and civilian manufacture re-asserted itself everyone had cash to spend on stuff, and the financial security for families.


[08-Apr-20 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ye, today we got eighty streaming services, some legitimate. YouTube, podcasts, gaming, 800 cable channels, and readily accessible porn from home.


[08-Apr-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
> married
ew other real people :spikegag: :trixdisgust: :grumpy:


[08-Apr-20 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Aside from, like, a recession for Eisenhower or Truman the whole post war period was just really good for most Americans. Made better by how, y'know: the whole rest of the world was in ruin


[08-Apr-20 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
So why not have kids.


[08-Apr-20 09:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
You have all this money, a big house, and a boat on wheels called a Cadillac.


[08-Apr-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/tesla-will-slash-employee-pay-furlough-hourly-workers.html

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Tesla will slash employee pay and furlough employees
Tesla will cut pay for all of its salaried employees until the second quarter of 2020, and furlough hourly workers until May 4, when it intends to resume production of electric cars, according to an internal e-mail that employees shared with CNBC.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105530343-1540479093997rts2465d.jpg?v=1551454714


[08-Apr-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
rip


[08-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if it's feasible to make it illegal for companies to slash employee pay during crises that reduce production without forcing them to go out of business


[08-Apr-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That depends on whether reduced pay is stipulated as part of paid time off to begin with or not, I would imagine


[08-Apr-20 09:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, unless I'm mistaken, the reduced pay is in reference to salaried workers


[08-Apr-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
what if we just make it so people's lives don't depend on their income level


[08-Apr-20 09:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
c'mon, capitalism can't sustain a system like that! You'd need to pull that money out of the people who hold the shares in whatever it is that's making money!


[08-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```The situation has grown worse amidst the coronavirus pandemic, as the government scrambles to convince India's population of 1.3 billion people of their heroic efforts to contain the outbreak, according to the Times.

As the outbreak progressed, Modi reportedly pushed for news outlets to publish inspiring stories about his government and suppressed reports of the lockdown which stranded half a million migrant workers. ```


[08-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
people are worried that US gonna be plague central? Ha.


[08-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
India wants a word.


[08-Apr-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
How many cases do they even have? haven't heard of india much so far


[08-Apr-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
unknown


[08-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
you can only have 100 new cases per week if you authorise 100 tests per week :D


[08-Apr-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
they're a huge country with a massive population in poverty


[08-Apr-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
pessimistically, assume that 3/4 of the population will get it


[08-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
and there's none of that 'emergency beds, ventilators and masks' nonsence


[08-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
not for the vast majority of population anyway


[08-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so sander's dropped out of the race?


[08-Apr-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
4 more years of trump


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
likely, yeah.


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I suspect trump is too unhealthy to live that long


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
$ dropping too


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
the question is if he will die or go to jail first


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
good fun


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
huh. i'm surprised. would've thought he'd have gone all the way to convention


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
is Trump still having pence for 2020?


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the convention is in august and he has a senate job that needs doing


[08-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I think he promised that this time didn't he


[08-Apr-20 09:41 PM] jlun2#8758
so did warren


[08-Apr-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the senate job is more important to him than trying to convince a bunch of centrists to vote for him despite clearly supporting biden


[08-Apr-20 09:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well bit of a bummer. you know Biden and Sanders will likely both be too old next time around


[08-Apr-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next time around we'll likely have a few young proggressive faces as well


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
no lol


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aoc will be old enough to run


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't know. aoc is barely holding her seat


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not sure she'll be there in a couple of years


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
not that she can't run


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
Ivanka for pres


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the virus will have killed atleast half the american population


[08-Apr-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
what


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the voter field will change immensely


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought its slowing down


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well if that happens the population will likely be more conservative kobold.


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
india's had a media blackout too that was lost in the coronavirus news


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
when things like that happen that's generally the direction population's attitude's go


[08-Apr-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is slowing down, though trump si still trying to force people out of lockdown so it could still rebound


[08-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
are you hoping it'll rebound and kill even more?


[08-Apr-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[08-Apr-20 09:45 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for boomers to have that easter church orgy they said


[08-Apr-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m saying it could because some asshats with a wallet to fill have an axe against poor people


[08-Apr-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont wish anyone but those asshats a swift death


[08-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so with bernie out. going to vote biden? third party? or just sit out?


[08-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
2024 is likely Warren as far as Democrats.


[08-Apr-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll vote biden, but i'll also be smart in my congressional picks


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's assuming Biden dies of course.


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
(relatively safe assumption)


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He won't run a second term even if he doesn't


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's death is less likely, but he might still be too old.


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why he's focusing so much on VP picks


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
One big problem for the Biden camp is that like


[08-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
once he's dead, who replaces him?


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
Cliton ofc


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Midknight#9798
fuck no


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
which I probably spelled wrong oops


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
There just aren't that many people bakkwards enuff that fit the bill.


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton's a no-go


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Midknight#9798
I said she'd be fine as president in 2016, but she was a terrible choice for a candidate, and that hasn't changed.


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
old yet liberal-looking


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
Obama VP


[08-Apr-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
is that allowed?


[08-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Midknight#9798
no


[08-Apr-20 09:49 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[08-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
VP has to be able to become P


[08-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Midknight#9798
unless you mean Michelle


[08-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Midknight#9798
Don't think she'd accept 😉


[08-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I do wonder though


[08-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If dropping out now vs. when he did in 2016 will help Biden and if it would have helped Hillary


[08-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Bernie drop out the same month as the National Convention?


[08-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Midknight#9798
depends on how much he pushes his supporters to vote biden


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] jlun2#8758
pls dont vote trump "ironically" fuck that

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[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie worked his fingers to the bone for Hillary, more than she did.


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it also depends on whether we're gonna get buttery males 2.0: burisma edition


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one should ironically vote trump...


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
```As White House officials have for the first time looked at a supply they had not thought about, they have discovered it is not only far smaller than what they need — it is also in constant need of maintenance.```


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
i fully expect barr to try and pull that


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I feel this needs to be a thing to keep in mind.


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not as juicy as Hillary's emails


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
no matter what Trump says, even if he didn't go all 'they ask more ventilators than they need', the stockpile has already failed.


[08-Apr-20 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It doesn't need to be


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it just needs to be enough to make Trump look like he was right all along


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
they are not capable of fulfilling the demand even if they wanted to which they don't


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
#AmericanEfficiency


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See the problem is that I could see people pulling the same logic with Biden as they did with Trump and the grab by the pussy thing


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
how the hell are other countries never able to catch up


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I would have done that too"


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would say that about Hillary's emails


[08-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People will say it about nepotism and sexual assault


[08-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Honahue#0656
the debates between Trump and Biden will be pretty funny in a terrible way


[08-Apr-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking ||my headcannon is because they actually would go grab someone's pussy if allowed because men||


[08-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Worse.


[08-Apr-20 09:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the funny thing is that pretty much *everyone* in washington does what hillary did with emails


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or at least, they did at the time hillary did


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people are like "It could be my son falsely accused of grabbing pussy"


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
```how the hell are other countries never able to catch up```


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
and then the parents would in private be like "great job son!"


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
because again men


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
ww2. And it happens to pay extremely well to have your currency be considered the 'hard currency' of the world.


[08-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a massive cultural focus on false rape accusations when they are statistically small


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a massive cultural focus on school shootings too, when they're couple orders of magnitude smaller


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
> A lot of people are like "It could be my son falsely accused of grabbing pussy"
@Itsthinking hahah no


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it _sells_


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what matters.


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
that's the BS conservatives make up


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Either that or "Man he's awesome, I wish I could grab pussy too"


[08-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I know it's BS.


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's how people think.


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Midknight#9798
there's no telling how small or large of an issue false rape accusations are because in most cases of rape accusations, there is no evidence either way


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they actually mean is that "My son should be able to grab all the pussy he wants"


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] jlun2#8758
^


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] jlun2#8758
sadly


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bit of column A, bit of column B.


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More accurately


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Trump's rich, so it's okay when he does it"


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"My son could be falsely accused of grabbing pussy, which would ruin him! After all, he deserves to grab all the pussy he wants!"


[08-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Midknight#9798
it's not okay to rape. accusing someone of rape that didn't is also a form of rape imo. it's not about the sex, it's about power and domination


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
and "so what? tons of people grab pussy, why try and stop it?"


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they don't want to reduce the problems.


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to agree on what the problems are.


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the abstract, grabbing pussies at random might be agreed as a problem.


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich white men doing it?


[08-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
people need to just stop treating eachother like shit, period, full stop.


[08-Apr-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
In an environment where the liberals who say to stop it are also saying it's okay to be gay or blakk or poor?


[08-Apr-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It becomes a lot harder to agree that it's bad.


[08-Apr-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if conservatives can't agree that it's bad, they won't think it is.


[08-Apr-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
You've interrupted their ritual with extra conditionals, so they're just gonna quietly shut up, move along, think it's okay Trump grabs pussies.


[08-Apr-20 10:00 PM] Midknight#9798
Yes, because at least he's grabbing pussy and not dingdongs -_-


[08-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thinking, yes.


[08-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Midknight#9798
that's a job for Senators tbh 😄


[08-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Midknight#9798
and the occasional Representative


[08-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative morals aren't really about people being hurt, they're about what kinds of people are best.


[08-Apr-20 10:02 PM] jlun2#8758
is that static, or malleable with respect to a single generation?


[08-Apr-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Generations are malleable in both how conservative they are and what morals they obtain.


[08-Apr-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So for like, Zoomer conservatives, it won't be that gay people are bad.


[08-Apr-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will be that Chinese people are bad.


[08-Apr-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
But there won't be many Zoomer conservatives.


[08-Apr-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
Sorry, meant more like would the same morals be changed with respect to a single generation (eg. in your instance, make Zoomer conservatives from Chinese Bad to Chinese Ok)


[08-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
looking forward to Biden losing and that narritve being cause Bernie bros would rather vote for a senile war mongering rapist over the senile war mongering rapist but with a D next to his name

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[08-Apr-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
good luck with your coup, hope it goes well


[08-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zoomer conservatives: "The government needs to balance the V-Buck budget"


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomer conservatives just want universal basic catgirls


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
universal basic traps


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
for real though.


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Universal basic catgirls but still no healthcare


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But at least you have someone to take care of you I guess


[08-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Universal healthcare for the catgirls


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Private insurance for you


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
:sad:


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well we all can agree catgirls are superior anyway


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I for one welcome our catgirl overlords!


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Midknight#9798
Elon needs to get on with making those already. Enough with the cars dude!


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Government also briefly considered doggirls as an option


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also private education only


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pilot program didn't work, they were all


[08-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
bitches

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[08-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Homeschooling and private tutors.


[08-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's really weird there's no far left private schools


[08-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than maybe Montessori stuff?


[08-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well it'd go against being far left


[08-Apr-20 10:14 PM] illumnious#7938
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-indexes-gain-coronavirus-recovery-oil-prices-2020-4-1029077595?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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[08-Apr-20 10:14 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[08-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Far left thought says screw profit, let's publicly fund education.


[08-Apr-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
so no recession?


[08-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/491852-green-party-makes-pitch-for-sanders-supporters

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Green Party makes pitch for Sanders supporters
The Green Party, a third-party that prioritizes environmental issues, posted a statement Wednesday attempting to court supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who dropped out of the Democratic presidential race earlier in the day.
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[08-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You ever see Knives Out?


[08-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a scene where one of the main characters just calmly tells his entire family to fuck off and he hates them


[08-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Eat shit. Eat shit. Eat shit."


[08-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My feeling now.


[08-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Except the family is the Green Party


[08-Apr-20 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey, the green party. The party whose candidate I only remember from the last election because Stein got propped up by troll farms too


[08-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I heard people wonder why the Dems coalesced around the worst candidate but feel obligated to remind people that Kamala Harris dropped out in December.


[08-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Harris was super conservative


[08-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
I presume they're saying she was a good candidate?


[08-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just think Biden isn't conservative enuff but also is too bought by the DNC.


[08-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She was a black woman, probably racist to not have voted for her in some people's view


[08-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Regardless of policy or character


[08-Apr-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She was a "tough on crime" prosecutor. That's poison to the left wing.


[08-Apr-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-his-media-toadies-love-every-minute-of-this-crisis
> “If Granny has to die for the Dow, isn’t that a small price to pay?”

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Bodies Pile Up and Trumpworld’s Sick Show Rolls On
Real America is freaked out, and rightly so. But Trump America thinks this is fun! And the ratings!
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[08-Apr-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why die for Dowzig


[08-Apr-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My prediction as of today (Trump vs. Biden)

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[08-Apr-20 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's similar to 2008, with a few differences.


[08-Apr-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Florida?


[08-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Voting access was expanded a lot.


[08-Apr-20 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So long as that margin actually stays >30 it doesn't matter what happens with florida, really


[08-Apr-20 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have more questions about the viability of the blue wall and Washington - do we have results from WA yet, even?


[08-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue Wall is dead.


[08-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is the Blue Hook now.


[08-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, OH I consider moving solidly red along with IA


[08-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wisconsin way more likely to stay red than MI


[08-Apr-20 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this does seem to be a fairly optimistic projection though


[09-Apr-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fine

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[09-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's victory path is basically "Win Pennsylvania and Florida too"


[09-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Against "Pennsylvania Joe?"


[09-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
While blatantly ripping off Floridians.


[09-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just after they got voting rights.


[09-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the midst of fallout from a massively bungled response to a crisis.


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Name your SCOTUS nominees, Biden.


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We know your first one is a black woman, but who?


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point I'm not sure it matters.


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS conservatives fukking wrote Wisconsin a new election law


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
To prevent mail-in voting from working.


[09-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Leondra Kruger is a CA Supreme Court justice


[09-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's also 43.


[09-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, holy shit the GOP must've threatened Gorsuch.


[09-Apr-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden needs a a new "Switch in time"


[09-Apr-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Threaten court packing.


[09-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they fall in line.


[09-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you could just make better policy that doesn't require it


[09-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's really what "saved nine" under FDR.


[09-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah, Gorsuch was definitely pressured.


[09-Apr-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think SCOTUS' conservative majority wants to decide another election.


[09-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be the dream for textualists to just put in place a monarch who could unravel the 14th amendment for them.


[09-Apr-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/j6xtt4268mr41.jpg

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[09-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I forget which is my favorite conservative SCOTUS tidbit


[09-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We don't need Miranda rights because people can just sue police officers"


[09-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or


[09-Apr-20 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"States could totally establish state religions, only the federal government can't"


[09-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
How about "People can't sue border patrol because anything that hurts people who aren't US citizens is warfare"?


[09-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Miranda rights thing stuck out to me more.


[09-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider it in the context of that tho.


[09-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The current conservative majority thinks the 14th Amendment is "overused" basically.


[09-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No rights because you can't sue, no suing because you don't hav rights.


[09-Apr-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want as little accountability as possible.


[09-Apr-20 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Media keeps focusing too much on Trump while conveniently forgetting the driving engine of America's deepening fascist regime is SCOTUS


[09-Apr-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[09-Apr-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is the one who put the last bits in that engine.


[09-Apr-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
they are both the enemy


[09-Apr-20 12:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 trump gives ratings boosts just by airing whatever nonsense he says


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the point, yeah


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of the conservative justices on the court don't belong there except maybe Roberts.


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Part of me says CNN secretly wants Trump to win this year


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just so their ratings profits don't fall


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Secretly"


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Part of me"


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seriously


[09-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you sure you've been paying attention?


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN loves this.


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think CNN or Rachel Maddow would have Fox and Friends type interviews with Biden as president


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah...


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It doesn't sell


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To their viewers


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] jlun2#8758
i have no tv


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] jlun2#8758
who are those weirdos with one


[09-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers.


[09-Apr-20 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> It doesn't sell
@Itsthinking  

America and the world's principal problem summarized in three words.


[09-Apr-20 12:25 AM] jlun2#8758
well i kinda lied


[09-Apr-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
my sister bought a tv to play switch


[09-Apr-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
but then she's playing it mobile in her room instead, so now there's an unused tv sitting in the ground floor awkwardly. my mom wasn't happy of that


[09-Apr-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Roberts cares immensely about his legacy.


[09-Apr-20 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wants to retire and write a book that basically goes "Well I tried to keep it non-political but what can you do"


[09-Apr-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
AFAIK he didn't drop out he just stopped campaigning


[09-Apr-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
Sander I mean


[09-Apr-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/08/814291136/bernie-sanders-is-suspending-his-presidential-campaign

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Bernie Sanders Suspends His Presidential Campaign
The Vermont senator is exiting the 2020 race, bowing to the commanding delegate lead that former Vice President Joe Biden has established.
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[09-Apr-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
```Still, Sanders said he'll remain on the ballot in the rest of this year's primaries, in order to win more delegates to bring to the Democratic National Convention. The more pledged delegates Sanders has, the more he'll be able to influence the party's platform and rules. ```


[09-Apr-20 12:30 AM] ononim#8141
silly old Bern


[09-Apr-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
No point in campaigning when there's no one showing up to rallies because year of the plague


[09-Apr-20 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
All those "20's decades are times of plague and pestilence" memes memed themselves real


[09-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://wgno.com/news/health/coronavirus/texas-company-looking-to-dock-paychecks-for-those-receiving-stimulus-checks-tmw/

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Texas company looking to dock paychecks for those receiving stimulu...
AUSTIN, Texas (KXAN) – While Congress was working out the details on a bill that would provide Americans with stimulus checks, at least one Austin company was looking for ways to save payroll. “The…
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[09-Apr-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
they won't end up docking any paychecks because trump will enrich himself and his family using the entire authorized amount of funds


[09-Apr-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
no stimulus checks for you


[09-Apr-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
and the trumpers will support him all the way


[09-Apr-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
well, they can't if they're dead


[09-Apr-20 12:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is Trump the only truly Infinitized member of government?


[09-Apr-20 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
I shall differ to my Franchise expert


[09-Apr-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
defer


[09-Apr-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
Given USD is fiat currency, wouldn't printing $2T, then giving it to yourself mostly make it kinda worthless, or nah still valuable to others?


[09-Apr-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it wasn't printed


[09-Apr-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it was stolen from taxpayers


[09-Apr-20 01:31 AM] jlun2#8758
oh


[09-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
taxation something something theft


[09-Apr-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it's reverse robin hood


[09-Apr-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
they're stealing from the poor to give to the rich


[09-Apr-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
dooH niboR


[09-Apr-20 01:42 AM] jlun2#8758
this appeared in my news feed
https://kotaku.com/hong-kong-protests-come-to-animal-crossing-1842744352

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Hong Kong Protests Come To Animal Crossing
This is not the best time to protest in the streets, no matter how worthy the cause. In Hong Kong, where citizens have held demonstrations against a now-scrapped extradition bill, the novel coronavirus covid-19 has made things even more difficult.
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[09-Apr-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 Nintendo banned in China


[09-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Switch came out in November there and there's only three games officially released


[09-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50 Cent Party is very active.

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[09-Apr-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/SweetBeans99/status/1247939201183543296

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[09-Apr-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[09-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Steal from stores because it hurts them; ignore how it hurts employees first and foremost and it's really no skin off the nose of the company


[09-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I really thought the shoplifting fandom had died after being exposed on tumblr


[09-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess not


[09-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think A Night in the Woods did a lot


[09-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I only watched an LP of that, tbh don't remember shoplifting, just sort of emo midwest town teens


[09-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or new england


[09-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it came from some interpretations of one of the main characters


[09-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJvr1zGGqjI&feature=youtu.be&t=574

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Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJvr1zGGqjI&start=574
Protests In China as Business Owners Face Bankruptcy; Lawsuits Agai...
Close to 9,000 business owners protested in Shenzhou City of China’s Hunan province, saying that they are risking bankruptcy and were calling on the local government for help. Chinese police attempted to break up the protests. And international lawsuits are now growing against...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eJvr1zGGqjI/maxresdefault.jpg


[09-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😐


[09-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think the message was more "Life can be shitty, cherish your friends" more than  "Life is meaningless, do whatever best suits you"


[09-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be weird for those people to not realize they're republicans deep down and just parasitizing on leftist ideals


[09-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just hear a lot of people not liking Mae.


[09-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tom Perez bitching about Wisconsin primary not being delayed just 3 weeks after bitching about Ohio governor trying to delay the primary there is pretty hrmm


[09-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That name always makes me think of Perez Hilton + Tom Paris


[09-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it impossible to take seriously.


[09-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perez Hilton's one of those bloggers who probably says "blogosphere" unironically and Tom Paris is Star Trek Voyager's least serious character. Yes, behind the cat person who was made ambassador because he knows how to cook.


[09-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder how Corn Pop feels today, if he's still alive


[09-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk in 1962, probably not still alive.


[09-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1173342875691692032


[09-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Died 2016.


[09-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was 19 or 20 when he interacted with Biden.


[09-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The story has been corroborated several times.


[09-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't believe Clinton had Corn Pop killed


[09-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
CornPop popped his last corn trying to tell Bernie her secrets.


[09-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
NitW has a lot of messages and some pretty mostly critiquing capitalism and losing your faith and how it eroded specific parts of the US rustbelt


[09-Apr-20 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534541348200775700/697620997687476234/v2bxabd41qo41.mp4

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[09-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Swift Blaze#0969
Our president is a damn five year old.


[09-Apr-20 04:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Marukomuru So where are these protesters on earth... Shenzhou(深州) is a city in Hebei(河北) province, not in Hunan(湖南)...


[09-Apr-20 04:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Apr-20 04:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It probably is another city in Hunan, because Shenzhou is a town-leveled city, have no so many business owners


[09-Apr-20 04:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/VCKQWYG-1zc

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Wes Cecil
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The Humane Arts: Introduction
The original introduction to the Humane Arts series failed to record so, unless you were live at the series, it has been unavailable. So I thought I would do a new introduction for the series as a means of giving a background for the other lectures. Presented by Wesley Cecil, ...
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[09-Apr-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
to be fair, trump seems like he's joking in that clip


[09-Apr-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
i cant tell when he's joking


[09-Apr-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
I think we've gone over how he's basically a monkey on a typewriter with his jokes


[09-Apr-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
he nails stuff every once in a while, but otherwise is incomprehensible


[09-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
that's how the producers of his apprentice show described him


[09-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
they had to do a lot more filming to make him seem coherent, but he would absolutely nail certain shots


[09-Apr-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
behind the scenes interviews basically described it in that if it weren;t for the masterful editors, the show would have been an incomprehensible mess


[09-Apr-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he occasionally had a flash of competence and wit here and there but most of it was due to very skilled editors


[09-Apr-20 04:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump is now widely loved by Chinese people


[09-Apr-20 04:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially anti-America people


[09-Apr-20 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are they loving him because hels killing america from the inside out or...?


[09-Apr-20 04:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Exactly


[09-Apr-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that sounds about right


[09-Apr-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck invading, just let your enemies incompetent leader kill his own country for you


[09-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So if you want to fly to Taipei, what do you have to do @AlchemistLiang


[09-Apr-20 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What does the PRC consider that flight


[09-Apr-20 05:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Taiwan has a bustling little economy which might imply they have the rights and privileges afforded to "normal" nations imo


[09-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
are you saying they don't have the right to selfgovern?


[09-Apr-20 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
We all know both Chinese are not real countries. They are rightful Mongol clay.


[09-Apr-20 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Restore Jurchen authority.


[09-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically, no


[09-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a thing called


[09-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*De Jure* and *De Facto*


[09-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
De Jure means what's written on paper, what the politicians and fancy people say


[09-Apr-20 05:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
De Facto means what actually happens, boots on the ground


[09-Apr-20 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
De Jure, Taiwan is an illegitimate state


[09-Apr-20 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Recognized by very few countries


[09-Apr-20 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
De Facto, many people make business with it


[09-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking note that officially, China considers Taiwan part of China, so to say you're flying to another country would be to violate their own propaganda.


[09-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't you need a special passport/certificate to go to Taiwan if you are a Mainlander?


[09-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well they have been independent of china for more than a century. I believe that after that long they are more than able and interested of ruling themselves.


[09-Apr-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For more than a century?


[09-Apr-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They've been technically independent since 1949 only


[09-Apr-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Before that, they were a province of the Japanese Empire


[09-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
independant of china. 
meaning not ruled by china


[09-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, it was actually


[09-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Before Japanese takeover in 1895, it was indeed a province of China


[09-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Qing Dynasty, that is


[09-Apr-20 05:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well yeah


[09-Apr-20 05:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Before that, no Chinese dynasty had solid control over Taiwan


[09-Apr-20 05:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
So for china to have legal claim over it you have to go all the way back to 1895.
I doubt the people of taiwan are interested in that if they have been seperate of china for that long


[09-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Dutch tried to colonize it in the 17th century but then some Ming Dynasty nobleman and pretender to the throne invaded it with a pirate fleet and made his own state there


[09-Apr-20 05:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Koxinga was his name


[09-Apr-20 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He was then overthrown by a Qing invasion in the 1680's or so


[09-Apr-20 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So China's claim to Taiwan goes all the way back to the late 17th century


[09-Apr-20 05:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Taiwan was returned to China by the IS after WW2 under the assumption of the Kuomintang. And through the fifties the Taiwanese government was consider the legitimate China by the UN until the Mainland ousted that recognition and the great thaw changed America's perception of Taiwan's relationship to legitimacy.


[09-Apr-20 05:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
According to US policy they are two seperate countries. Policies of other countries varies


[09-Apr-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taiwan was also basically a dictatorship until the late 80's


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
thankfully they are not anymore


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
much freer country now than it was then


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
The mainland considers it a rogue province. Though they do buisiness with them. To a point the buisiness they do with it may be a means to reign in Taiwan and draw it into Mainlandern orbit again. That has certainly been the island's concern.


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
mhm


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I think it should remain it's own country


[09-Apr-20 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
It has however been ruled as a single party dictatorship until very recently


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
The KMT has had near total control over island politics.


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
Until like the very last major national election


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a more centrist party took control


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The KMT advocates for reunifying with the mainland iirc


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Under their terms)


[09-Apr-20 05:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(pie in the sky situation but ok)


[09-Apr-20 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
Interestingly the Taiwanese KMT has had a hand in the heroin trade since for a long time - and perhaps still now but I will need to check - there were KMT irregulars in northern Burma/Myanmar that controlled a chunk of the heroin trade for funding


[09-Apr-20 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's a whole other story.


[09-Apr-20 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
They were supposed to have been kicked out in the sixties but for a long long time they dragged their feet and mostly officers were brought back but there may be chunks still there just hanging out and spying on Yunnan


[09-Apr-20 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
And being drug lordsm


[09-Apr-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or they did get pulled out and the remnants melted into any one of Burma/Myanmar's dozen ethnic insurgencies who are also narco armies


[09-Apr-20 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah the KMT used to have this delusion that they'd reconquer the mainland


[09-Apr-20 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And one propaganda poster from the Korean War even claimed Siberia as Chinese territory because they were also salty at the USSR


[09-Apr-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think Taiwan still claims the land Russia took from China by literally just firing canons over the negotiations once.


[09-Apr-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's why Vladivostok exists.


[09-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then Russia got epically humiliated by Japan


[09-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who then dabbed on Korea and China also


[09-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
China was not in a good spot back then


[09-Apr-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
So the Kuomintang still wants to restore that honor lost as Xi goes ahead and basically does it anyone to the anger of the rest of the major powers.


[09-Apr-20 06:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Qing Dynasty's armed forces were spectacular garbage lol


[09-Apr-20 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
The Thirteen Hongs were perhaps the most effecient Qing thing that also probably denied the state money most effeciently


[09-Apr-20 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being a mercantilist economy


[09-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But what if


[09-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We _encouraged_ the opium trade without the British forcing us?


[09-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Delightfully devilish, Emperor!


[09-Apr-20 06:56 AM] Opponent#3498
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[09-Apr-20 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent you must sacrifice yourself for The Line


[09-Apr-20 08:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AWFyWs0HTSqSCDuZKU8sfbQ

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Millennials are getting stung by back-to-back global crises	 — Bloo...
Aviv Russ feels like the cards have been stacked against his generation -- and he’s not wrong.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQVdGeVdzMEhUU3FTQ0R1WktVOHNmYlEAMA


[09-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-update-latest-cases-us-deaths-record-daily-death-toll-1496865

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The U.S. coronavirus outbreak kills an American every 45 seconds as...
The tri-state area of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, saw a combined total of nearly 7,000 deaths among its nearly 191,000 infected people.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1580161/temporary-hospital-indio-california-march-2020.jpg


[09-Apr-20 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
#demhoax #KAGA2020


[09-Apr-20 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
didn't age too well, did it.


[09-Apr-20 12:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Itsthinking It need two license for Chinese mainlanders to go to Taiwan:


[09-Apr-20 12:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
One is "Exit & Entry Permit for the Taiwan Area of the Republic of China"


[09-Apr-20 12:44 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Another idk how to translate...


[09-Apr-20 12:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, Chinese mainlanders can get the two license in any one of 19 certain cities in mainland


[09-Apr-20 12:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The details are very fucking complex... usually, Chinese mainlanders can stay in Taiwan for less than 15 days by following a tour group


[09-Apr-20 12:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There are 9 kinds of licenses for total, "group traveling" is only one of them... Each kind is different from others


[09-Apr-20 12:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You choose one of them depends on the purpose you go to Taiwan


[09-Apr-20 01:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually, most of the meetings about Taiwan of our leaders are not political, but economical


[09-Apr-20 01:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Taiwan stocks market is even shitter than Chinese mainland... But we still want those money in Taiwanese's pockets. Our capitalists and governors never stop trying to capture and control the Taiwan market.


[09-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Opponent#3498
9 kinds of licences, sounds like a wonderful clusterfuck


[09-Apr-20 01:50 PM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Not whole of SIberia or even Russian Far East/Manchuria


[09-Apr-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
But Tanu Tuva


[09-Apr-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
since it was part of Quing and technically post monarchy china


[09-Apr-20 01:51 PM] ononim#8141
Technically because grasp of anything chinease on it after fall of quing was zero, just like with mongolia


[09-Apr-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-gov-jared-polis-says-colorado-economy-may-reopen-may-2020-4

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Colorado Gov. Jared Polis is optimistic his state may be able to ge...
Polis argued that if his constituents abide by his stay home order, some might be able to go back to work next month, while taking some precautions.
https://i.insider.com/5e8e4a9a0b3c9b772e05195b?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Apr-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-poll-finds-trump-better-leader-than-joe-biden-2020-4

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More US voters believe Trump is a better leader during the coronavi...
In the Politico/Morning Consult survey of registered voters, 44% said Trump had shown better leadership, compared with 36% who chose Biden.
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[09-Apr-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Apr-20 02:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Well well well wots all dis den? 👮 🛒  Pony Toys?  Hands against the wall sir.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-latest-boris-johnson-updates-uk-cases-deaths/

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Coronavirus latest news: Police chief warns officers will consider ...
Downing Street has warned that there must be no easing up of coronavirus restrictions over the Easter weekend.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/global-health/2020/04/09/TELEMMGLPICT000229307721-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhNkvlguSCLNAbLFJA3hmlxSyV74PnrmMVLeDsGCONQM.jpeg?imwidth=1200


[09-Apr-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
what happened to herd immunity and acceptable losses :wheeze:


[09-Apr-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
oh right, Boris Johnson got sick


[09-Apr-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[09-Apr-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
you say US is comedy central. Lies and slander.


[09-Apr-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
_THIS_, this is gold.


[09-Apr-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
these guys are smarter than Trumpy boys. They realised that it's not just about plebs, whos purpose is to die for Brittania, that penthouses are not, in fact, isolated from the world outside, and you can _feel_ the moment when this realisation hit.


[09-Apr-20 02:39 PM] Opponent#3498
absolute perfection


[09-Apr-20 02:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇬🇧 :wheeze:


[09-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/07/union_provision_was_secretly_slipped_into_covid-19_relief_bill_142881.html

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Union Provision Was Secretly Slipped Into COVID-19 Relief Bill | Re...
Business interests have labeled it a stealth attack by pro-union forces. Most would-be GOP opponents of it on Capitol Hill were in the dark until it was too late – many still are. A provision in...
https://assets.realclear.com/images/50/506633_5_.jpg


[09-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
nice


[09-Apr-20 03:12 PM] Opponent#3498
"Secretly slipped"


[09-Apr-20 03:12 PM] Opponent#3498
you incompetent morons...


[09-Apr-20 03:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Time to unionize a local gas company


[09-Apr-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seize the means of production! unionize the oil companies!


[09-Apr-20 03:15 PM] Opponent#3498
...not quite the same thing


[09-Apr-20 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/usa-haben-wohl-200-000-schutzmasken-abgefangen-berlins-innensenator-spricht-von-moderner-piraterie/25712976.html

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Berlins Innensenator spricht von „moderner Piraterie“
Wegen des Coronavirus bestellte Schutzausrüstung für Berliner Polizisten soll aus China in die USA umgeleitet worden sein. Das Weiße Haus dementiert.
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/coronavirus-oesterreich/25713740/1-format530.jpg


[09-Apr-20 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pirates of the Coronavirus


[09-Apr-20 03:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
I guess the Germans are considering using strictly military assets now to ship medical supplies they're buying because we keep buying them at point of departure


[09-Apr-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well thatr's how the companies see it, sooo...


[09-Apr-20 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hospitals-are-facing-economic-turmoil-in-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-4

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Pay cuts, furloughs, and layoffs for doctors, nurses, and other hea...
Healthcare workers are facing pay cuts and layoffs caused by social distancing rules and shutdowns during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://i.insider.com/5e8e177029d6d95c9a420113?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Apr-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
just in case the healthcare might not reach the breaking point, let's make it happen manually


[09-Apr-20 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
afterall the bottom line is what matters most in a pandemic! fuck the patients, nurses, and doctors!


[09-Apr-20 03:27 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, okay, so it's not cutting the manpower available for the virus


[09-Apr-20 03:28 PM] Opponent#3498
but rather failing to redistribute it


[09-Apr-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nurses also get suspended if they bother to take matters intot heir own hand and fund raise for ppe themselves


[09-Apr-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because fuck safety gear amirite


[09-Apr-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
there can be an argument made about quality control of sourced ppe not being up to standard. It's better than nothing though.


[09-Apr-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
and 'nothing' is the alternative people are facing...


[09-Apr-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/491865-democrats-salivate-over-obama-coming-off-sidelines

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Democrats salivate over Obama coming off sidelines
The decision by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to suspend his campaign means former President Obama is about to get back into the political spotlight.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_obamabarack_040820getty_split.jpg


[09-Apr-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491940-barr-says-draconian-lockdown-measures-should-be-reexamined-by-may

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Barr says 'draconian' lockdown measures should be reexamined by May
Attorney General William Barr late Wednesday suggested that the federal government in May  should begin relaxing some of the "draconian" social-distancing restrictions imposed throughout the U.S.
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[09-Apr-20 03:41 PM] Opponent#3498
```Biden actually spoke by phone with Trump on Monday to discuss the pandemic, and Sanders made it clear that the spreading virus was one reason he ended his campaign on Wednesday despite the urgings of some supporters to continue. ```


[09-Apr-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/491882-trump-opposes-widespread-royalty-cuts-for-oil-and-gas-companies

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Trump opposes widespread royalty cuts for oil and gas companies: re...
President Trump opposes giving widespread royalty cuts to companies that drill for oil and gas on public lands and waters,
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[09-Apr-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/491631-lawmakers-introduce-legislation-to-fund-government-purchases-of-oil

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Lawmakers announce legislation to fund government purchases of oil
A group of lawmakers announced Tuesday that they are introducing legislation that aims to fund a government purchase of oil, boosting an industry that has been hit by reduced demand and international disputes.
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[09-Apr-20 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/491568-court-strikes-down-epa-suspension-of-obama-era-hfc-rule

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Court strikes down EPA suspension of Obama-era greenhouse gas rule
A federal court on Tuesday struck down the Trump administration’s move to suspend an Obama-era rule that restricted the use of a powerful greenhouse gas, saying the Trump administration did not follow the proper pro
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[09-Apr-20 04:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247900240155295745?s=21

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1247900240155295745?s=21
Once we OPEN UP OUR GREAT COUNTRY, and it will be sooner rather than later, the horror of the Invisible Enemy, except for those that sadly lost a family member or friend, must be quickly forgotten. Our Economy will BOOM, perhaps like never before!!!
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[09-Apr-20 04:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Wut


[09-Apr-20 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why can't he talk normal


[09-Apr-20 04:17 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s too much of an ass to talk normal


[09-Apr-20 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything is like never before, it's incredible really, you know they said it wasn't possible, but we made it possible, and now things are like nobody's ever seen before


[09-Apr-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Soon we'll nuke california, it will be liek never before, you'll see, it;s the biggliest best dealiest deal ever dealed!


[09-Apr-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i;m just imagining trumpisms mixed with flanderisms...


[09-Apr-20 04:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sometimes Trump's speeches are so nonsense that I doubt the subtitle is wrong translated


[09-Apr-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will literally cut off sentences to start a new one multiple times in a row


[09-Apr-20 04:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Listening to them is totally suffering for English learners


[09-Apr-20 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Bad material.


[09-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump isnt good learning material


[09-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless the lesson is "how not to english"


[09-Apr-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly, if you subbed trump over with quotes from caillou, you wouldnt be too far off


[09-Apr-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or peppa pig


[09-Apr-20 05:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Apr-20 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
bot accounts I guess

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[09-Apr-20 05:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
_plays San Andreas music_


[09-Apr-20 05:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Apr-20 05:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Apr-20 05:11 PM] jlun2#8758
wrong channel?


[09-Apr-20 05:20 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think the dnc is terrible


[09-Apr-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
absolutely the wrong channel


[09-Apr-20 05:20 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
even then


[09-Apr-20 05:20 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i hate the democratic party anyways


[09-Apr-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
that is pretty vague


[09-Apr-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
because the democrats encompass strange bedfellows of
- neoliberalism
- neoconservatism
- progressivism


[09-Apr-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
you probably want to pick some of these ideologies to hate


[09-Apr-20 05:52 PM] illumnious#7938
today's stonk

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[09-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it stabilizing, is it getting better or worse?


[09-Apr-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
I think worse


[09-Apr-20 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
update

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[09-Apr-20 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
shit already?


[09-Apr-20 06:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Dow j seems doing up all the time


[09-Apr-20 06:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yep, they going up.


[09-Apr-20 06:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
All of them.


[09-Apr-20 06:14 PM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean no recession?


[09-Apr-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
The Line has accepted the sacrifice


[09-Apr-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
no, the recession is here already lol


[09-Apr-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
stock market doesn't follow economic trends


[09-Apr-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
it took months to hit the bottom during the great depression and a little over half the time the stock market had steady upwards daily trends


[09-Apr-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I would go so far as to argue we were in a recession before the virus hit


[09-Apr-20 06:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the stock market just wasn't reflective of that


[09-Apr-20 06:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> a little over half the time the stock market had steady upwards daily trends
I can imagine Trump celebrating that even if 25% of the working population was unemployed, and people buying it


[09-Apr-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
he'll do anything to boost his ego


[09-Apr-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's economy is the stock market, if the country was literally on fire and businesses were burning to the ground while millions of people suddenly became homeless, he would be celebrating the fact that stocks went up 3%


[09-Apr-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
trump doesn't actually care about the stock market other than the fact that rising trends and economic descriptions like "Trump bump" serve to boost his own ego


[09-Apr-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
to be sure, he commits what is likely massive securities fraud on a monthly basis, and that's what he's really in for


[09-Apr-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump is 2016 America's grifter president


[09-Apr-20 06:26 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/donald-trump-jr-instagram/?os=dd

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Instagram censors Trump Jr.'s meme about Democrats and coronavirus
An Instagram post by Donald Trump Jr. about Chuck Schumer and other Democrats was deemed 'partly false' by the social media giant and hidden on his profile.
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[09-Apr-20 06:26 PM] illumnious#7938
good


[09-Apr-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-pence-is-blocking-health-officials-from-going-on-cnn-2020-4

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Mike Pence is blocking health officials from going on CNN to pressu...
Many critics have argued that the daily events often bear more resemblance to campaign rallies than informational briefings.
https://i.insider.com/5e8f30eb0b3c9b39295a59f4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Apr-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-us-economy-reopening-coronavirus-april-30-shutdown-wapo-2020-4

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Trump administration wants to reopen as much of the US economy as p...
Trump earlier suggested reopening the economy by April 12 but pushed the date back at the urging of public-health officials.
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[09-Apr-20 06:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious then they yell CENSORSHIP and they revert the ban


[09-Apr-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not censored though


[09-Apr-20 06:40 PM] illumnious#7938

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[09-Apr-20 06:47 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/lonelymaw/status/1248268215811178496

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[09-Apr-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-young-people-could-leave-uk-lockdown-first-2020-4

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Young people, who are least likely die from the coronavirus, should...
The paper, from the UK's University of Warwick, says the economic benefit is worth the health risk, since young people are less vulnerable anyway.
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[09-Apr-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sacrifice the young for the line!


[09-Apr-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
except that young people are dying like crazy


[09-Apr-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly i think capitalists are just tired of their fortune and demanding they be guillotined int he most subtle of ways


[09-Apr-20 06:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) family values 😉


[09-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blatant attempt to get Millennials sacrificed for the benefit of the elderly.


[09-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are scum.


[09-Apr-20 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[09-Apr-20 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what do you expect from the country that innovated religion like this


[09-Apr-20 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that the jesus snacks in juice cup form?


[09-Apr-20 07:02 PM] jlun2#8758
now for $2.99


[09-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-treasury-sec-mnuchin-says-us-could-reopen-for-business-in-may-2020-4

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Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin says American businesses could re...
"We are making everything necessary that American companies and American workers can be open for business" in May, Mnuchin said.
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[09-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i vote we all become hit men and that be the only job that re-opens


[09-Apr-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well actually i vote that we just refuse to come out of quarantine regardless if it lifts or not


[09-Apr-20 07:04 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1247961456525574144

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"we won"
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[09-Apr-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
> well actually i vote that we jsut refuse to coem out of quarentine regardless
i thought millenials were too poor to do that


[09-Apr-20 07:05 PM] jlun2#8758
also what


[09-Apr-20 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Apr-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Apr-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
that's depressing


[09-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Laughs on them because Biden is to the left of Obama so


[09-Apr-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
he is _now_


[09-Apr-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or so Trump's propaganda machine says


[09-Apr-20 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[09-Apr-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-company-promised-cheap-ventilators-to-the-government-never-delivered-and-is-now-charging-quadruple-the-price-for-the-new-ones

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A Company Promised Cheap Ventilators to the Government, Never Deliv...
Royal Philips N.V. agreed in September to sell 10,000 ventilators to the U.S. for $3,280 each. It did not deliver. But the Dutch company just announced a new deal with the government. This time, it’s charging roughly $15,000 each.
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[09-Apr-20 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
it turned out they can't buy old Ukrainian ones for 500$ each after all :wheeze:


[09-Apr-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, when do we convert the football stadiums into thunder domes?


[09-Apr-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Apr-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
_licks @WingbeatPony _ https://youtu.be/zgsL5yW3bao

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[09-Apr-20 09:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh yeah this video was inevitable


[09-Apr-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
recommended viewing, just for the memes


[09-Apr-20 09:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1248319601647247361?s=21

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Great News: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has just been moved out of Intensive Care. Get well Boris!!!
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[09-Apr-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's terrible news


[09-Apr-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
defunding NHS soon now that he doesn't need it :D


[09-Apr-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he got his, so everyone else can fuck themselves!


[09-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
the american dream


[09-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democratic-and-gop-governors-enacted-stay-at-home-orders-on-the-same-timeline-but-all-holdouts-are-republicans/

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Democratic And GOP Governors Enacted Stay-At-Home Orders On The Sam...
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[09-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the takeaway here is


[09-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real partisan issue isn't *when* to giv the order


[09-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's *whether to ever* giv it.


[09-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
All Democrats and most Republicans believe you should giv it.


[09-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many Republicans believe you shouldn't.


[09-Apr-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492063-biden-releases-plans-to-expand-medicare-forgive-student-debt

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Biden releases plans to expand Medicare, forgive student debt
Former Vice President Joe Biden released plans to expand Medicare eligibility and forgive some student debt as he works to unite a fractured Democratic base behind his presumptive 2020 nomination.
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[09-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
'eyebrows raise'


[09-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
really now


[09-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well, we'll see where this goes.


[09-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a bare minimum.


[09-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying to forgive like a quarter of the crushing student debt and make it so Gen Xers can start retiring soon.


[09-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't an olive branch, it's spitting on our lawn and telling us he watered our plants.


[09-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I figured it was something like this.


[09-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate point of this is to win the Gen X vote while shafting Millennials.


[09-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I really hope he dies.


[09-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just about ANYONE he chooses as VP would be better.


[09-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This milquetoast BS is more conservative than his usual.


[09-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, ideally he'd drop dead next week so Bernie can go "Well guys, guess who's winning in November!", but that's too much to expect.


[09-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's probably in a sealed room somewhere struggling to comprehend the problem with conservative economic policy.


[09-Apr-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
> This isn't an olive branch, it's spitting on our lawn and telling us he watered our plants.
and given my experience, get angry when you call them out for this and say you're an ungrateful brat


[09-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Kamala Harris would be better than Biden"


[09-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really, no.


[09-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He won't pikk her.


[09-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pikking her is like the one way he could throw things to Trump.


[09-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
She's a liberal-hated minority woman, that's poison.


[09-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if anyone but the most bizarre centrists liked her, she'd run her mouth and everything would explode instantly.


[09-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Klobuchar then.


[09-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unlikely.


[09-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Klobuchar is the "secure the great lakes white people" candidate.


[09-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
She has no ability to be coherent on policy and has similar problems to Harris when it comes to treating people.


[09-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they were male senators no one would care about that, but that's another story.


[09-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tactics that get you a decent New Hampshire finish don't translate well into the role of VP.


[09-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, Klobuchar is the most compromising senator.


[09-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
She would just further the narrative that Joe isn't interested in fixing problems, only kissing Mitch's ass.


[09-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Biden ACTUALLY needs in a VP, @Itsthinking, is someone decently liberal with little to no trakk record that says he's "passing the torch".


[09-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
But not too liberal or else conservative asshats will rage.


[09-Apr-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
don't they rage regardless


[09-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone where it's clear they wouldn't go out of their way for stuff like Medicare for All, but also wouldn't destroy it.


[09-Apr-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not if they're DNC conservative asshats.


[09-Apr-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone where it's clear they aren't really in charge of policy, even if Biden's senile.


[09-Apr-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gretchen Whitmer.


[09-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, but I think she's on the weak side.


[09-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, people might forget she exists.


[09-Apr-20 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So do people with Pence


[09-Apr-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's the point with Pence


[09-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
he exists so evangelicals go hallelujah while everyone else forgets he exists.


[09-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492084-trump-slams-wsj-for-failing-to-mention-ratings-in-critical-editorial

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President Trump on Thursday blasted The Wall Street Journal for an editorial criticizing the daily White House press briefings, complaining that the news outlet failed to give proper attention to the number of viewers they attract.
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[09-Apr-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a whiny goddamned baby


[09-Apr-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-senator-josh-hawley-denmark-coronavirus-relief-government-pays-wages-2020-4

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A GOP senator just proposed a Denmark-style recovery plan where the...
The plan from Sen. Josh Hawley underscores the search for radical solutions among lawmakers to meet the unprecedented scale of the economic crisis.
https://i.insider.com/5b6a528a89c8a124618b4569?width=1200&format=jpeg


[09-Apr-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/surreal-photos-show-mcconnell-speaking-mask-clad-reporters-at-distance-2020-4

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Surreal photos show Mitch McConnell speaking to mask-clad reporters...
Normally, reporters would be surrounding a politician like McConnell and jostling to get closer in order to ask a question. But times have changed.
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[09-Apr-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-pledges-campaign-staffers-healthcare-plans-through-november-2020-4

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Bernie Sanders pledges that every campaign staffer will be able to ...
Sanders built his campaign around declaring healthcare a human right and calling for a single-payer national health insurance program.
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[09-Apr-20 11:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1248304460805226497?s=20

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BREAKING: The conservative Wall Street Journal Editorial Board just called out Trump's Briefings

SAID THIS

"If Mr. Trump thinks these daily sessions will help him defeat Joe Biden, he’s wrong."
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[09-Apr-20 11:32 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure whatever trump says would win the crowd anyways


[09-Apr-20 11:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1248354863198674947?s=20

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Joe Biden says he’ll lower the age for Medicare to 60. This is a smart first step. Medicare expansion has to be done in stages, and not just due to the influx. Medicare will have to be gradually revamped to focus on health needs of younger folks, which are different from seni...
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[09-Apr-20 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder how many people realize their insurance is not the ones doing the health services you require, but pays for the bills. There doesn't need to be any retooling of anything in medicare to provide for anyone below 60 because all it is is expanding the financial support to a broader field.


[09-Apr-20 11:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
To in fact suggest that financial insurance on or against or a thing has to be specialized implies that it should not cover for things and indicating it should is an effect of neoliberal marketization logic: cutting costs to raise revenues.


[09-Apr-20 11:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's a good point but man, the grammar about gave me a stroke in that last sentence


[09-Apr-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492065-trump-officials-lay-groundwork-for-may-reopening

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Trump officials lay groundwork for May reopening
The Trump administration is laying the foundation to push for a reopening of parts of the U.S. economy as early as the beginning of May amid rising pressure over unemployment numbers rivaling those during the Great Depression.
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[10-Apr-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Apr-20 12:08 AM] jlun2#8758
fantastic, time to get them to mass 🔫
or is it one of those cults where their teachings don't apply to themselves, and only onto others?


[10-Apr-20 12:09 AM] ononim#8141
WTF I love Trump now


[10-Apr-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty sure the latter


[10-Apr-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the eldrich horror is the god of stonks


[10-Apr-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/fxw3uz/why_should_any_american_company_ever_act/

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r/wallstreetbets - Why should any American company ever act respons...
12,890 votes and 1,123 comments so far on Reddit


[10-Apr-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> Why should any American company ever act responsibly again?
Because "civility" and "it's the right thing" of course


[10-Apr-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Why? for the glory of satan, of course!


[10-Apr-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5632946

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[10-Apr-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't about 'civility' or actual civility. It's about rewarding the worst business practices.


[10-Apr-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
right now you need to _desperately want_ to do good by others _NOT_ to use them


[10-Apr-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
so not just _evil capitalists_ would do it


[10-Apr-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
everyone would.


[10-Apr-20 01:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/avspook/status/1248089756207988738

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@Amy_Siskind @sandibachom @realDonaldTrump @DuPont_News @FedEx response Euro vs USA #COVID19 #TrumpMadness https://t.co/DgTFj3qGbN
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[10-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/492126-sanders-2020-press-secretary-democratic-leadership-interested-in

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Sanders 2020 press secretary: Democratic leadership interested in '...
Briahna Joy Gray, Sen.
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[10-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Opponent#3498
obviously.


[10-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Salty


[10-Apr-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Apr-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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Thank you Comrade Tomi. This is far from over
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[10-Apr-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
s/KAG/AOC and you have my word


[10-Apr-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Apr-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"How dare you kill americans! Only america can kill americans!"


[10-Apr-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/4th-of-july-independence-day-america-usa-united-states-of-america-gif-4320859

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in america
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[10-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The worst thing about the pandemic is all the corporate ads about "We care" "We're here for you" "We want to connect you with the people you care about the most" "The world is changing, but you can trust we'll still be here"


[10-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never miss an opportunity to leach on emotions


[10-Apr-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, the last thing i want in an apocalypse is promising to still be there in an apocalypse

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[10-Apr-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We deliver now! because we care!*" 
 *We are not liable if we stop delivery services after the pandemic, delivery is regional and locations vary. Fuck you, your family, your friends and your dog, just give us your cash now*


[10-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[10-Apr-20 04:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/reviewresist/status/1248401046449188866?s=21

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Fox News Poll: 100% of our viewers will lap up anything
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[10-Apr-20 04:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[10-Apr-20 05:13 AM] jlun2#8758
https://twitter.com/PoorlyAgedStuff/status/1245507697149128704
is this legit or april fools? (was posted on april 1)

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[10-Apr-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html


[10-Apr-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
oh it is


[10-Apr-20 06:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[10-Apr-20 06:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
US still the highest line


[10-Apr-20 06:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why can't the line of the stock I bought just raise up like this

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[10-Apr-20 07:39 AM] illumnious#7938

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[10-Apr-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-are-urging-trump-to-let-experts-lead-coronavirus-briefings-2020-4

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Republicans are worried Trump is hurting himself with rally-like pe...
Trump left Thursday's coronavirus press briefing earlier than usual, as Republicans urge him to allow experts like Dr. Fauci to take the helm.
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[10-Apr-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/reinstating-fired-brett-crozier-navy-aircraft-carrier-2020-4

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The Navy hasn't ruled out reinstating the aircraft-carrier captain ...
Capt. Brett Crozier, who was fired after emailing a letter about the coronavirus on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, could still get his job back.
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[10-Apr-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
the fuck does 'hasn't ruled out' even mean, jesus


[10-Apr-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
have some backbone


[10-Apr-20 02:40 PM] Opponent#3498
also I guess convicing Trump it's bad for his health _could_ actually work


[10-Apr-20 02:40 PM] Opponent#3498
if anything would convince him to stop, appeal to his selfishness would.


[10-Apr-20 02:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p71OFCe4PsE

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Pop the Left: Marx vs. Lassalle
Derick Varn and Douglas Lain continue their discussion on the history of socialism. This week they consider Lasalle's influence on 19th century struggles and Marx's critique of LaSalle and the Gotha Program.
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[10-Apr-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/492125-new-round-of-stimulus-talks-face-gop-roadblock

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New round of stimulus talks face GOP roadblock
Senate Republicans on Thursday signaled they won’t be ready to launch into another round of economic stimulus talks until next month.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cardinben_vanhollenchris_040820gn_split_stimulus-standoff.jpg


[10-Apr-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/492135-pandemic-spurs-court-fights-over-mail-in-voting

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Pandemic spurs court fights over mail-in voting
Election officials are scrambling ahead of the November vote to ramp up alternative methods like expanded mail-in voting as the coronavirus pandemic raises concerns about the safety of in-person voting.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_voting_wis_040720getty2_lead.jpg


[10-Apr-20 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/shkrelis-plea-from-prison-free-me-and-ill-cure-covid-19/%3famp=1

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Shkreli’s plea from prison: Free me and I’ll cure COVID-19
He just needs a 3-month hiatus to get this pesky pandemic taken care of.
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[10-Apr-20 03:49 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
Guess what is dumb?
Animal Crossing is "banned" in China


[10-Apr-20 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because of the hong kong protests?


[10-Apr-20 03:51 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
yes


[10-Apr-20 03:51 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
Just a fucking roleplaying game and they were virtual protesting in the game what the goddamn fuck?


[10-Apr-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, hong kong is probably on social distancing lockdown so they had to find soemway to keep it up


[10-Apr-20 03:52 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
haven't played the game because I don't have a NS Switch but the reason of "ban" is extraordinarily stupid


[10-Apr-20 03:53 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
just heard it in r/china discord server


[10-Apr-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically this is xi xinping being a cowardly baby again


[10-Apr-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like with the winnie the pooh thing


[10-Apr-20 03:54 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
just idiotic


[10-Apr-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491917-fauci-i-dont-think-we-should-shake-hands-ever-again

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Fauci: I don't think we should shake hands 'ever again'
Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and a key member of the White House coronavirus task force, on Wednesday suggested that Americans should never shake hands again.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/fauci2_033020getty.jpg


[10-Apr-20 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"oh woe is me, i got compared in looks to a stuffed fucking bear. I should ban it to avoid looking soft because people would have totally given a fuck"


[10-Apr-20 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all that did was make sure the rest of the world uses the comparison


[10-Apr-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's kinda weird


[10-Apr-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
the smartest thing to do about something like this is ignore it


[10-Apr-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
it'll die on it's own, memes have a shelf life measured in hours if left unattended


[10-Apr-20 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you try to force the meme death, they just get more powerful


[10-Apr-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is the power of the streissand effect


[10-Apr-20 04:14 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
@prism stryder(intexda) https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1248494508146221058?s=19

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Oh no, Xi Jinping banned #AnimalCrossing in China (apparently because I play it), and these angry gamers are blaming me everywhere instead of blaming their own government lol 🤨🎮🎮
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[10-Apr-20 04:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What? Animal Crossing is banned?!


[10-Apr-20 04:19 PM] FlutterThread8#0786
unofficially


[10-Apr-20 04:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I haven't heard of this before


[10-Apr-20 04:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No news as this in my social medias as well...


[10-Apr-20 04:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[10-Apr-20 04:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... I just checked, Nintendo's still selling it online, only those second-handed online stores are banned on Taobao.


[10-Apr-20 04:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It doesn't matter to me anyway... I still can't afford


[10-Apr-20 04:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well... I guess we are going to be sued by Nintendo


[10-Apr-20 04:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I found a Chinese game company already developed a shitty copy of Animal Crossing... so fucking quickly

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[10-Apr-20 05:01 PM] illumnious#7938
> What? Animal Crossing is banned?!
@AlchemistLiang  oof


[10-Apr-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/492184-chris-wallace-if-trump-is-seen-as-handling-health-economic-crisis-well-i-dont

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Chris Wallace: If Trump is seen as handling health, economic crisis...
"Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace said the race between President Trump and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden (D) will ultimately be a referendum on the way that Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak.
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[10-Apr-20 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[10-Apr-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
will it?


[10-Apr-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
we've been saying the vote this november will be a referendum on (X thing trump has done) for new values of X every time


[10-Apr-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
who's to say trump won't create a _new_ national crisis over the next few months?


[10-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 yellowstone explodes

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[10-Apr-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah trumps ultimate power move, soemhow selling america for a shiny new golf club


[10-Apr-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, he seems to create a new national crisis every 2 weeks


[10-Apr-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-brags-about-stock-market-unemployment-claims-near-17-million-2020-4

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Trump boasts about 'biggest Stock Market increase since 1974' one d...
The Labor Department reported that 6.6 million people filed for unemployment last week, totaling 16.8 million claims over the last three weeks.
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[10-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If Yellowstone blew, there wouldn't be a US.


[10-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent "hasn't ruled out" means "really wants to if they can get away with it without Trump going on a rampage"


[10-Apr-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There'd still be the 13 colonies at least


[10-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[10-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be Hawaii and Florida


[10-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything else would be too starved from the volcanic winter.


[10-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
(also RIP Europe)


[10-Apr-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
After about a decade, it'd be time to try and recolonize.


[10-Apr-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
on the other hand, it will undo a lot of the desertification of the midwest


[10-Apr-20 06:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean we're literally at the point of mass graves


[10-Apr-20 06:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the president's boasting about stonks


[10-Apr-20 06:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If north america did get wiped off the map, would it really be any different in terms of geopolitical relevance for the US in the next couple decades?


[10-Apr-20 06:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yW3llS1f0

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Fox N Friends Try Explaining Medicine to Dr. Fauci
--Fox N Friends try explaining how medication and medicine works to Dr. Anthony Fauci, and it doesn't go well
🛌 Get up to $200 off the world’s best mattress at https://helixsleep.com/pakman

Dr Fauci needs armed security due to Trumpist threats https://youtu.be/WkX7zj6lCtw

ht...
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[10-Apr-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
your money's still good, for now


[10-Apr-20 07:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://kotaku.com/animal-crossing-new-horizons-pulled-from-some-chinese-1842794206

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Animal Crossing: New Horizons Pulled From Some Chinese Stores After...
Listings for Nintendo’s adorable life sim Animal Crossing: New Horizons have been taken down from online Chinese stores Pinduoduo and Taobao. This comes on the heels of some players using the game to share pro-Hong Kong protest messages.
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[10-Apr-20 07:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe Isabelle became a symbol of the Hong Kong protests


[10-Apr-20 07:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also >*Kotaku*


[10-Apr-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not the worst source for gaming and anime news


[10-Apr-20 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/teams-retrieving-coronavirus-bodies-from-nyc-homes-2020-4

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Teams are retrieving up to 280 bodies a day from NYC homes. Not all...
Health officials say the actual number of people dying from COVID-19 in NYC is likely far higher than the official daily death tolls show.
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[10-Apr-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe we will get a million


[10-Apr-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
woohoo, we're number 1


[10-Apr-20 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/delta-coronavirus-flight-attendants_n_5e908793c5b6260471e0c37e

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Delta Tells Sick Flight Attendants: ‘Do Not Post’ On Social Media O...
Terrified of coronavirus, flight crews balked at the instructions as an infringement on employees’ freedom of speech.
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[10-Apr-20 08:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Usa! Usa! Usa!


[10-Apr-20 08:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why do we still have *so much* air travel in the US right now


[10-Apr-20 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism


[10-Apr-20 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Duh


[10-Apr-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
> "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace said the race between President Trump and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden (D) will ultimately be a referendum on the way that Trump has handled the coronavirus outbreak.
I thought Trump's approval rating is more solid than his wall


[10-Apr-20 08:20 PM] jlun2#8758
nothing can convince people to change minds


[10-Apr-20 08:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think the *majority* of the country really thinks Trump has this under control


[10-Apr-20 08:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Rather, I think they're approving of him for "doing something" without really knowing what that is, and that they're convinced that Biden wouldn't even do as good of a job as Trump


[10-Apr-20 08:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is something you can only be convinced of if you don't believe Trump has actively made the problem worse at every turn


[10-Apr-20 08:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-should-pay-every-american-more-let-hedge-funds-and-billionaires-get-wiped-out-says-social-capital-ceo-2020-04-09

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Fed should pay every American more, let hedge funds and billionaire...
Is the Fed’s massive coronavirus stimulus package helping the ultra-rich at the expense of ordinary American workers? That’s what Chamath Palihapitiya, chief...
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[10-Apr-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
probably not happening in my lifetime


[10-Apr-20 08:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPIvDFSRe4s

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LIVE: Trump Coronavirus Emergency Press Conference
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[10-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Once you have completed the reporting procedures listed above, leaders will follow the established process to notify any impacted flight attendants.


[10-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"And by that we mean we won't tell anyone because money"


[10-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Later, Palihapitiya tweeted that Americans should also get their 2019 taxes refunded as a form of universal basic income.


[10-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh right, Tax Season™ is still a thing


[10-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"hey you know that 1,200 we gave you? Tencent wants their investment back"


[10-Apr-20 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
that's fucking racist


[10-Apr-20 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
what about white people


[10-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/health/can-mosquitoes-spread-coronavirus

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Can mosquitoes spread coronavirus?
As the weather warms and many move their stay-at-home orders to their backyard, the question of whether you can contract COVID-19 through a mosquito bite continues to surface.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/04/mosquito_istock.jpg


[10-Apr-20 09:38 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/revealed-white-house-pushed-fema-to-give-its-biggest-coronavirus-contract-to-a-company-that-never-had-to-bid/?utm_source=push_notifications

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REVEALED: White House pushed FEMA to give its biggest coronavirus c...
Last month, as a deadly new virus swept over the globe, one Canadian defense contractor predicted on an earnings call that it would lead to a big business opportunity in the U.S. Thanks to the White House, that bet paid off just a few weeks later in a $96 million no-bid deal. ...
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[10-Apr-20 09:39 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.foxnews.com/health/can-mosquitoes-spread-coronavirus
@Sunnyside >FOX news

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Can mosquitoes spread coronavirus?
As the weather warms and many move their stay-at-home orders to their backyard, the question of whether you can contract COVID-19 through a mosquito bite continues to surface.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/04/mosquito_istock.jpg


[10-Apr-20 09:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Yeah? Its fox news.


[10-Apr-20 09:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/jalenjjohnson/status/1248692994573774848?s=21

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I call my grandma #bigmama https://t.co/DQSlKThH0E
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Twitter


[10-Apr-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
@Sunnyside they're certainly USELESS


[10-Apr-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
also meanwhile... https://nr.apple.com/d2s6h070n0

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Apple and Google partner on COVID-19 contact tracing technology
Apple and Google announce a joint effort to help governments and health agencies reduce the spread of the virus, with user privacy central to the design.
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[10-Apr-20 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
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[10-Apr-20 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
Headlines that read like satire


[10-Apr-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mentally-ill-world-leaders-jonathan-karl-nassir-ghaemi-2020-4

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Top Trump official prepared White House staff with a book about how...
After becoming the acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney quoted the book, "A First-Rate Madness," to prepare staff for the White House, per a new book.
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[10-Apr-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure the book was talking about narcissism and dementia...


[10-Apr-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope, apparently trump fits the book soemhow...


[10-Apr-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Ghaemi, who wrote the book before Trump declared his candidacy in the 2016 US presidential election, told Karl in an interview that "Trump fits into my thesis perfectly."
> 
> "I believe that he clearly has mild manic symptoms all the time, as part of his personality," Ghaemi told Karl.
> 
> "These symptoms consist of decreased need for sleep (a core feature) with high physical energy (including high sexual drive), talkativeness, distractibility, high sociability, and high self-esteem (often focused on by critics as 'narcissism')," Ghaemi added, "along with being prone to impulsive decisions or behavior (typically sexual indiscretions and impulsive spending)."


[10-Apr-20 10:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>high physical energy (including high sexual drive)

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[10-Apr-20 10:27 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump really wants to fuck America 😳 😳


[10-Apr-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america should file for rape


[10-Apr-20 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Allan Sherman already wrote a book on *that* decades ago


[10-Apr-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/492218-ig-finds-treasury-handled-house-request-for-trump-tax-returns-properly

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IG finds Treasury handled House request for Trump tax returns properly
The Treasury Department's inspector general office found that the department "properly" processed House Democrats' request for President Trump's tax returns when it refused to turn over the documents to the Ways and Means Committee.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_04032020getty_0.jpg


[10-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course it does.


[10-Apr-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"


[10-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump replaced the IG.


[10-Apr-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just remember how many times the former IG has spoken out against Trump


[10-Apr-20 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially encouraging whistleblowers to come forward


[10-Apr-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Yes your honor, we shot trum p in the face and as my own representative, we found this to be perfectly legal"


[10-Apr-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/492200-schiff-unveils-bill-to-create-coronavirus-commission-to-review-us-response

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Schiff unveils bill to create coronavirus commission to review US r...
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on Friday introduced legislation that would establish a commission to review the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic.
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[10-Apr-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492152-florida-gov-desantis-says-coronavirus-doesnt-seem-to-threaten-kids-mulls

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Florida Gov. DeSantis mulls reopening schools: Coronavirus 'doesn't...
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Thursday signaled that there was still a possibility that Florida schools could reopen in May after being closed since March due to the coronavirus outbreak.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/desantisron_120629getty.jpg


[10-Apr-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
man, news travels *slow* in the south


[10-Apr-20 10:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They ran out of old people to kill so now they're going after kids


[10-Apr-20 10:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:depressed:


[10-Apr-20 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently death is the only threat he cares about


[10-Apr-20 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and even then, it's only been, what, 2 weeks since that kid in L.A. died from it?


[10-Apr-20 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention, in case he forgot, *kids can spread the disease to adults*


[10-Apr-20 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it just so happens that schools are full of adults whose job it is to sit in a room with hundreds of kids over the course of each day


[10-Apr-20 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
kids who then go home to their parents


[10-Apr-20 10:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
To go further, how many of those parents think the virus is just an elaborate hoax? Where are they going? Who do they meet with?


[10-Apr-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe he;s trying to kill florida so he doesnt have to run it anymore?


[10-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/fyhriw/cnbc_anchor_shocked_by_guest_saying_who_cares/

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r/PublicFreakout - CNBC anchor shocked by Guest saying “who cares” ...
58,978 votes and 3,686 comments so far on Reddit
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[10-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, I can't find any other sources other than huffington post for that internal delta email thing telling attendants not to tell anyone or post about having coronavirus


[10-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
and huffpost is kinda a mixed bag for accuracy


[10-Apr-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree with Chamath Palihapitiya, who the fuck cares if billionaires wipe out


[10-Apr-20 11:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/us/sand-bar-dollar-bills-donation-trnd/index.html

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A Georgia bar owner removed $3,714 worth of bills stapled to the wa...
Before the coronavirus pandemic, Jennifer Knox would walk into her bar and soak in the sounds of people chatting while sipping on their drinks and listening to local musicians strum along on their guitars.
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[10-Apr-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492279-trump-calls-decision-on-reopening-us-the-biggest-of-his-life

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Trump calls decision on reopening US the biggest of his life
Some officials have suggested in recent days that businesses could prepare to reopen in May.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald5_041020getty.jpg


[10-Apr-20 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so if Trump says "open things up" but Cuomo says "not unless you want everyone to die" and keeps NY on lockdown...what happens next


[10-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8193929/Demi-Moore-Bruce-Willis-don-matching-pajamas-quarantine-together.html

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Demi Moore and Bruce Willis don matching PJs to quarantine together
In the two decades since their 13-year marriage ended, they have worked hard to build a happy friendship.
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[10-Apr-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump throws a temper tantrum and starts threatening to withhold the supplies it;s been revealed he doesnt have from everyone who knows he doesnt have them


[10-Apr-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know who demi moore is


[10-Apr-20 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont knwo who most of those people are, why is this news?


[10-Apr-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-should-let-billionaires-companies-fail-no-bailouts-chamath-palihapitiya-2020-4

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'They don't get to summer in the Hamptons? Who cares?': CEO says US...
More than 10 million Americans filed for unemployment. Palihapitiya said they will suffer the most during the pandemic, not big businesses.
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[11-Apr-20 12:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder this was Saddam Hussein's campaign theme song in 2002 https://youtu.be/61pgAIy_flU

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I will always Love you in Arabic ( Ra7 Dayman Ahwak )
bas heek aked bala ma3na single 4 ever
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[11-Apr-20 12:41 AM] illumnious#7938

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[11-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
3.7% death rate in the US


[11-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
I think the overall death rate based on that site is like 5.4% now


[11-Apr-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Apr-20 01:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So why are the stocks in the US still raising quickly in such a condition


[11-Apr-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
atm, OPEC+ agreed to reduce oil production to raise prices


[11-Apr-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus news has been spammed with the % increase in some places in the US going down


[11-Apr-20 01:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our people in Alipay comments are flattering American stocks as their daddies


[11-Apr-20 01:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Uh... Why are they also talking about Jesus?


[11-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crazy Christians?


[11-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You basically need to be Christian to be into what Trump's selling.


[11-Apr-20 01:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't understand how people still believe women are created from a rib


[11-Apr-20 01:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They want the God make one of their rib become their waifu?


[11-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most ultrareligious christians in the US don't even know that part from genesis


[11-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who really read both testaments would know Jesus would, if given the chance, stab Trump to death on live TV


[11-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say most Christians hav not a fukking clue what's in the bible aside of the parts emphasized to make them fall in line.


[11-Apr-20 02:19 AM] illumnious#7938

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[11-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 9/11 per day, @Itsthinking


[11-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
How would you like your flavor of conservatives saying that we shouldn't take efforts to reduce the problem?


[11-Apr-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Jesus was a socialist


[11-Apr-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and the Bible makes many obvious references to communism


[11-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What about saying to those conservatives "Hey maybe we don't need to re-open the economy as it used to be, this kind of showed that a lot of what we did wasn't really needed"


[11-Apr-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/statewatch/492309-appeals-court-reverses-ruling-allowing-some-abortions-to-resume-in-texas

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Appeals court effectively reinstates ban on most abortions in Texas
A federal appeals court on Friday temporarily blocked a ruling from a lower court that allowed some abortions to resume in Texas as the government in Austin works to curtail the procedure during the coronavirus outbreak.
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[11-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's advocating for change and only using what you need.


[11-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Completely against their entire core values.


[11-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, about the "I Hate Mondays" thing in regards to this, Its


[11-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that they don't think social distancing works or whatnot


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't even really care about The Line


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man, I hear people saying that like


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their issue is, you're saying going out and meeting people is a bad thing.


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because death forecasts are down, social distancing was pointless


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Punished for just attending parties.


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is dumb


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's the I Hate Mondays philosophy.


[11-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Evil still exists, so why do we try to stop it?


[11-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know deaths will be lower if we stay inside


[11-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why bother changing my pants when I shit in them? The stain will still be there.


[11-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't like punishing people for normal activity.


[11-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't see the law as a tool to improve the world.


[11-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see it as a judge of what behavior is good or bad.


[11-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And what behavior is good or bad doesn't depend on the situation, only the society, to them.


[11-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The law is at its basis all about non-violent solutions to problems


[11-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what they don't like about its existence.


[11-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the end, what they really want is armed thug morality police.


[11-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was Puritan America.


[11-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they're pro gun


[11-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
In their eyes, holding weaponry to enforce their morality must be moral.


[11-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
To ever stop them from doing such is punishing good behavior, and thus unacceptable.


[11-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of how many shootings it stops.


[11-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really what "why punish the gun for crimes of people" is about.


[11-Apr-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything to them is about punishing bad people, never ever caring about the systems that lead to people being bad.


[11-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For some reason I'm reminded of the logic of companies that irresponsibly produce and market unhealthy food


[11-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's not our fault people eat our food three times a day!"


[11-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Opponent#3498
well, that happens to be true.


[11-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure, but why does that stop you from making your food less shitty and trying to be responsible as a company?


[11-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no need for it.


[11-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
people buy it already and the profits flow in.


[11-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
means it works.


[11-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
and so, doesn't require fixing.


[11-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always found it weird that conservatives call themselves conservatives


[11-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
now, if US, and with it the rest of the world, didn't have the cult of ever-expanding profits, you could decide on a 'good enough' cut-off and invest the rest into making your product better without the monetary need for it.


[11-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
but as it is, if you do that, your investors might be unhappy.


[11-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
you get shafted and die as a business. Or, at least, take a hit.


[11-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes it's the same logic, Its


[11-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
this is that thing again, it's not that 'bad people' do some shit and 'good people' don't. It's that the established system doesn't allow for anything but one approach to be effective.


[11-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the same reason why conservatives hate when the federal gov't tries to make schools offer healthier food


[11-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
they see it as a "bad people" problem, why blame the school for the decisions of the students?


[11-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel I'm too conservative for you people sometimes.


[11-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
and it's not just the guns, it really runs deeper than that.


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, they don't care that making this change could slash childhood obesity


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
or make people liv longer


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
DO people need to live longer though?


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's seen as punishing the schools by restricting their freedom.


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
you live for the first 35 years of your life


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
the rest you exist


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
leeching off emotions of others.


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The schools _should_ be punished for what they do to kids.


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Serving them shit, etc


[11-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well when you don't drink like crazy or devour sweets like crazy, yes you do actually liv past 35 with actual good things.


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life with diabetes sukks.


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half of zoomers will get diabates according to predictions.


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That *sukks*.


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should prevent that.


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop eating white bread


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eat more vegetables and have better PE


[11-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And breakfast cereal


[11-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder, does PE still make kids run laps or is it just a bunch of kickball now


[11-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
People only eat more vegetables if you make everything else expensive or unreachable.


[11-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence, make everything else expensive or unreachable.


[11-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or, mix vegetables in stuff people eat


[11-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, mashed "potatoes" that are 90% cauliflower


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make food stamps giv you extra money if you buy fruits and vegetables


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people's diets will improve overnite.


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives btw are not fond of the idea.


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Conservatives aren't fond of any ideas


[11-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
(something something something fairness, alongside the whole, extra money to poor people thing)


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
well this isn't fairness, this is societal engineering. Deliberate one, directed by government.


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay good


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
let's engineer a better society


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
toss me the wrench.


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ideas are the enemy of the people, they give people the image that maybe conservatives might be wrong


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
it might be beneficial, but that's like THE staple of communism


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
it's hard to accept


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Maybe we should give elementary schoolers free apples"


[11-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gimme my luxury gay automated space communism.


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's basically where the government in the US is now


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note: lunch overall still requires payment


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We already have societal engineering on a mass scale with school districts, gerrymandering, indirect taxes, etc


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And schools shame kids that go into debt because they can't afford to pay


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
the school is required to giv the food for free, but then it aggressively pursues students for the debt


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"pay off your lunch debt or we take you away from your parents!"


[11-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's like it's trying to get them used to the healthcare industry early


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh yes, that's one a school did


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
pay your debt or we call child services


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
cherrypicking whos votes counts in the elections really isn't that @ Teaspoon


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it's simply a type of fraud, nothing exciting


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember in my high school, I saw a peek into the cafeteria once


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point tho.


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't choosing who votes much more directly engineering the society that making people eat healthier?


[11-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's directly benefitting you as a politician so you can gain more power to do more shit.


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
not really.


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter whether it's "fraud" or not (and it usually technically isn't)


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We already tax alcohol and tobacco


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taxes don't work as well as making healthy options cheaper straight up


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soda taxes work btw


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
while tobacco taxes kinda don't.


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't change society in a meaningful way. What changes with that is you simply get the result you expect to get, much like any authoritarian dictatorship


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[11-Apr-20 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guys


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't buy soda cause of major addictions, but cause it's super cheap.


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Holy shit


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ayingmaung/status/1248747843818606599

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Krakatau, We are fighting coronavirus. Please, go to sleep 😢
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[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, but it's a form of societal engineering to get people to be healthier


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Krakatoa just exploded


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
you effectively change the political system. That by itself doesn't impact society much.


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Soda doesn't have any _actual_ chemicals in it that are addictive


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12324190

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Krakatoa volcano Anak Krakatau erupts in Indonesia
There are reports of a 'large magmatic eruption ' happening right now.
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[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it that when it's voting, it's not a problem, but when it's food habits, it is?


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Aww sweet


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a problem. Just a different one.


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Last time Krakatoa did this we got Frankenstein


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that can't be good


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
2020 is the year that keeps on giving


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
food habits impact things from the grassroots


[11-Apr-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now it's gonna be another summerless year 🙃


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
'managed' voting impacts things from up top


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure people eating healthier isn't going to cause MegaHitler.


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
1816 gang


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas managed voting absolutely would.


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it a problem to mess with the culture?


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
Hitler was elected democratically *shrug*


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
By a minority.


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up what the NSDP did to the KPD


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
the system by itself doesn't do much.


[11-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and the socdem party


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Last time Krakatoa did this we got Frankenstein
@Itsthinking 

Well no, it went off in 2018 too and just caused a tsunami.


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav failed to establish why it's a problem to make people eat healthier.


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
inb4 Vesuvius decides to wake the fuck up.


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yellowstone


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
Every volcano ever just pops their top.


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the while subtly implying that people trying to make people eat healthier is cause THE SOCIETY WE WANT while people trying to make people vote for a specific party is less impactful and thus less of a problem.


[11-Apr-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
This actually makes Yellowstone a more chill explosion.


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just inundates Wyoming with ash.


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
No one notices


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not just Wyoming


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
People would notice Yellowstone


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would actually explode


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But a good part of the middle US


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and be preceded by massive quakes


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc the yellowstone caldera is the size of colorado


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It would be Bad


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it's not that big


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let's just pray that Yellowstone doesn't blow up either


[11-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's big


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yellowstone blowing up would kill 2 billion people.


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There would be a volcanic winter and millions would die.


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over the course of 5 years.


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
billions


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you know that "nuclear winter" thing people talk about?


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yellowstone would do the slightly shorter version.


[11-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But "volcanic"


[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
2020 be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M

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DAGOTHWAVE
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BACKGROUND GRID BY AE DESIGN: https://www.youtu...
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[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Yellowstone starts shaking like crazy, it's time to evacuate the northern latitudes.


[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in like


[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anything north of Florida


[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of Europe


[11-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of Russia, you know.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/FQQCxQuxSjQ?t=2881

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQCxQuxSjQ&start=2881
BBC Horizon 2004   Horizon Special   End Day
There's only one other copy of this on YouTube, and the quality sucks, and every other copy online is some website run by complete a-holes.  So, here it is.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FQQCxQuxSjQ/sddefault.jpg


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's basicly the end. Well, Russians would be happy at least.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russians would be dead.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 yo how is it to live in Argentina. I need to know for... reasons.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and briefly happy, before that.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
death is salvation.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it makes you leave Russia


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only problem is then you need to go to China.


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That city about 20 seconds in


[11-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
is Denver


[11-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
nah they'd be happy to booze it up and await the end, while maybe casually looting


[11-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Metro 2033


[11-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
actually trying to 'survive' is almost never worth it.


[11-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With less mutants


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk Argentina?


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good news with Yellowstone is we'd hav years of warnings.


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I really don't know


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly decades or even centuries.


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why?


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
reasons


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's too big to just blow up randomly one day.


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Might need to leave to southern most latitudes eventually.


[11-Apr-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Volcanoes?


[11-Apr-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[11-Apr-20 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Join some Mapuche gang


[11-Apr-20 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wear ponchos


[11-Apr-20 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
A big hat


[11-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's well overdue for eruption, which usually means with stuff this big that it's not gonna blow again period.


[11-Apr-20 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Study fifty languages and various literature related and philosophical concepts and write about infinite libraries.


[11-Apr-20 03:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
The usual for the region I assume


[11-Apr-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```You hav failed to establish why it's a problem to make people eat healthier.```
it's not a problem, it's just this philosophy to governing would be pretty hard to accept. Right now the philosphy... I don't know if there IS one, to be honest, at least not for US. People do things to enrich themselves and enforce their biases into being, but there's no strategic goal to it, at least I'm not seing it.


[11-Apr-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/coronavirus-government-response-updates-trump-americans-back-work/story?id=70083632

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Coronavirus government response updates: 'Biggest decision of my li...
President Donald Trump looks to reopen the country by May 1 but experts caution widespread testing is needed before a gradual loosening of social distancing restrictions.
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[11-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Opponent#3498
the last time I remember US actively managing their society was Red Scare thing. The elites seem to have lost interest in projects like that since like the 70ies.


[11-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
personal bank account and stock portfolio became more important


[11-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why be interested in projects liek that when the conservative government will reward you for shitty behavior and swoop into bail you out when you;re on your corporate death bed


[11-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, see, that's the thing, you think of corporations first.


[11-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and before that, nobility, 'people that matter'


[11-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the problem.


[11-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
currently this is the world standard


[11-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
in times of peace, there's no need for your population to have any quality but be obedient and pay up


[11-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
most labor laws seem to have been pushed by going to war, having just gone to war or expecting to do it soon.


[11-Apr-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then it;s not a time of peace


[11-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
like total war, not US' mercenary army of peace


[11-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm reminded of British Empire, and sudden realisation post first Boer war that their population is so driven into the ground they might not get anywhere near enough quality recruits for the next conflict


[11-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
and THAT drove them to think and do at least something about grassroots, that and angry returning WW1 vets some decades later


[11-Apr-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Apr-20 03:57 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck?????? Is that really important????????????????? https://www.businessinsider.com/former-biden-staffer-tara-reade-files-sexual-assault-complaint-2020-4?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Biden accuser Tara Reade files criminal complaint over 1993 allegation
Reade, who worked as Senate staffer in the mid-1990s, first accused the presidential candidate of sexual assault last month. This week, she filed a criminal complaint.
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[11-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean?


[11-Apr-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, this story is kind of sketchy given her past.


[11-Apr-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, unfortunate name, confusing for people


[11-Apr-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

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Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of ...
Alexandra Tara Reade’s accusations of sexual assault against Joe Biden appear very questionable once the story is fully investigated.
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[11-Apr-20 04:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/mjzona/status/1248714783408508931?s=21


[11-Apr-20 05:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
New record of daily new cases, daily new recovered and daily new deaths


[11-Apr-20 05:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[11-Apr-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Approximately 6.30 9/11s.


[11-Apr-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
is it accelerating or slowing?


[11-Apr-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The peak is in a few days, hopefully


[11-Apr-20 05:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They difference of death rate between America and Canada is really beyond my expectation


[11-Apr-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I actually caught the swine flu during the 2009 pandemic


[11-Apr-20 05:19 AM] jlun2#8758
this was overblown


[11-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't really an interesting "fact" now


[11-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was not overblown. In the US, social distancing and stay at home orders reduced deaths massively.


[11-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was in the UK at the time, and got it as well


[11-Apr-20 05:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Canada's cued number is 10.7 times of deaths, but America's only 1.6 times


[11-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Got me a full week off work \o/


[11-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got a full week off of school


[11-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had the flu before but it was never that bad unless it was the stomach "flu"


[11-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I would have rather gone to work, spent most of the time curled up in bed


[11-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Swine flu meant a week of nothing but Xbox


[11-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit made my bones hurt


[11-Apr-20 05:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, how many people dead in 911?


[11-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2,996.


[11-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
just under 3k


[11-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spread across the two WTC hijackings, United 93, and the Pentagon IIRC


[11-Apr-20 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(United 93 was likely meant for the Capitol/White House but crashed in a field in Pennsylvania because the passengers fought back)


[11-Apr-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
991 isn't mentioned by our history textbooks, but mentioned by our Chinese textbook


[11-Apr-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't that Camp David?


[11-Apr-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't have meant anything at Camp David, the point was another DC monument.


[11-Apr-20 05:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At this speed, American will be dying one 911 a day in several weeks


[11-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Honahue#0656
hopefully we'll have hit the inflection point before then and it'll increase less fast


[11-Apr-20 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless we're forced back to work at the start of may


[11-Apr-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, it's only when people say, looking back, "I don't understand what all the fuss was about" that you know you have launched an effective strategy against a pandemic


[11-Apr-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The trouble is that we have people saying that *now* about the US


[11-Apr-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
these are the people who think Trump is actually handling this


[11-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The good news is that it seems that's wearing off.


[11-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people now think he's handling it badly.


[11-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Real info has caught up to the misinfo.


[11-Apr-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet, misleading polls seem to indicate that the majority think he's doing an *okay* job


[11-Apr-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably doesn't help him that our deaths now are above every other country except Italy, which is recovering.


[11-Apr-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Until VERY recently, the majority did think that.


[11-Apr-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, now they've moved the goalposts to peddle the poll from the other day that says "Americans believe Trump is handling this better than Biden would"


[11-Apr-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry, let me represent that more accurately: "american voters say Trump is being a better leader during coronavirus crisis than Biden is"


[11-Apr-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's *particularly* underhanded on account of Biden not being responsible rn for leading anything but his political campaign


[11-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the wording is the devil there


[11-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
what they're really asking is whether Biden IN THEORY would do better IF he were president.


[11-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not whether Biden HAS handled it better.


[11-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And because people consider Biden an unknown, and the memes about him having dementia tend to outspread the Trump ones, people are like "well Biden wouldn't do anything!"


[11-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
even tho that's not what Biden's said over and over.


[11-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, it's been weeks since Biden talked about this stuff


[11-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's been in the news every day


[11-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
always keep in mind most people are dumbshit goldfish.


[11-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to work pretty hard to make them remember something more than a week.


[11-Apr-20 05:49 AM] Midknight#9798
trump could pick his nose on national tv and his followers would believe him when he later claims he was eating golden rice.


[11-Apr-20 05:49 AM] Midknight#9798
so I don't look for rationality there anymore


[11-Apr-20 05:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No one:
Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoninghao:

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[11-Apr-20 05:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[11-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
it is very sad that when you do the best job no one knows you even did your job


[11-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Honahue#0656
this basically incentives doing a bad enough job to be noticed not doing a terrible job


[11-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
but it only works in some cases I think


[11-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
like if your sewage company tried that it wouldn't last long


[11-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
but that's more of a problem of politics as spectacle


[11-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://imgur.com/gallery/4SPIH38

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Medical clothing sent from China has just arrived in France
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[11-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess that's how we solved the lack of PPE, just use the same amount of material for 4 gowns...


[11-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
less substantial that dryersheets


[11-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Midknight#9798
that's supposed to keep out microscopic contaminants. reeaaal effective, capitalists


[11-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks to be chinese made stuff France just bought


[11-Apr-20 06:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Days ago I just bought a black facemask with a very strong smelling


[11-Apr-20 06:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I doubt it's made from second handed underpants


[11-Apr-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
uh


[11-Apr-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
:nut: ❓


[11-Apr-20 06:14 AM] Midknight#9798
probably recycled tires or something


[11-Apr-20 06:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's a kind of thick and soft black fabric


[11-Apr-20 06:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Two pieces sewed together, then added two strings


[11-Apr-20 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
used condoms and sewer pipes as AvE says about many Chinese plastics


[11-Apr-20 06:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Midknight I don't think tires can smell like musty toilet paper


[11-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Midknight#9798
Depends on what you make out of the tires before you turn them into a mask


[11-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Midknight#9798
😛


[11-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
AvE is usually refering to cheap tools


[11-Apr-20 06:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I just nearly vomited when I opened the package


[11-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah probably that smell


[11-Apr-20 06:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just imagine cover your nose and mouth with a piece of cloth smells like musty toilet paper all the time


[11-Apr-20 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
my mom made me a triple layer mask, maybe not as good as surgical or n95 but better than nothing


[11-Apr-20 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
she's a quilter


[11-Apr-20 06:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My mom bought two dozens of mask days ago


[11-Apr-20 06:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That kind of bright blue mask... Idk what it calls


[11-Apr-20 06:27 AM] Midknight#9798
surgical mask?


[11-Apr-20 06:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah yes


[11-Apr-20 06:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The kind that surgeons uses


[11-Apr-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Apr-20 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Weasels https://youtu.be/ijC8kqzMrcw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijC8kqzMrcw
Pandemic insurance doesn't cover COVID-19? 🤔
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/theaters-star-cinema-grill-houston-theaters-coronavirus-lawsuit/285-5f59b232-bd06-4eba-be80-865882491103
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[11-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Opponent#3498
insurance companies shouldn't exist as a business model


[11-Apr-20 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
or, if they are, they should be regulated into the cold hard ground


[11-Apr-20 08:40 AM] Opponent#3498
with no leeway and no judgement calls


[11-Apr-20 08:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, just imagine if insurance companies had to be operated as nonprofits


[11-Apr-20 08:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It sure isn't anywhere near as good as SPH, but just...in general


[11-Apr-20 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...apparently 63% of them *are?*


[11-Apr-20 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:wat:


[11-Apr-20 08:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
looking at this list I can assure you that the companies here I'm personally familiar with are *notoriously* anti-consumer <https://www.firstquotehealth.com/health-insurance-news/non-profit-health-insurance>


[11-Apr-20 08:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm way too tired to research this properly


[11-Apr-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
if they're this shitty and yet nonprofits then I don't understand anything anymore.


[11-Apr-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
at least profit motive makes sense.


[11-Apr-20 09:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's because there's more than one kind of nonprofit and the rules that govern them range from strict to eeeeh


[11-Apr-20 09:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So far as I know, there's nothing really preventing a hospital network from creating a subsidiary insurance company, register it as a nonprofit, and then work out a nice deal with those hospitals to cover stuff those hospitals provide at a significant discount (because of course the prices are jacked for anyone *out* of network)


[11-Apr-20 10:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's not an antitrust-dodger 'cause the insurance goes "look, we'll offer those same or similar discounts to *any* hospital that wants to join our network"


[11-Apr-20 11:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-aid-check-date-deposit-report-2020-4

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Majority of Americans who qualify for coronavirus aid are expected ...
"This in and of itself is a major achievement," a Treasury Department official said in a Fox News report.
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[11-Apr-20 11:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fascinating. They ID Trump (and use his signing photo for the article,) quote McConnell, but the only mention of where this plan *came* from is that it's "bipartisan"


[11-Apr-20 11:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/492320-trump-admin-looks-to-cut-farmworker-pay-to-help-industry-during-pandemic

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The Trump administration is reportedly working on plans to reduce the wages of foreign workers on U.S. farms, a move it think swould help farmers facing economic uncertainty during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report by NPR.
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[11-Apr-20 11:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/492236-epa-charts-path-to-suspend-hazardous-waste-cleanup-amid-coronavirus

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EPA charts path to suspend hazardous waste cleanup amid coronavirus
The Environmental Protection Agency on Friday announced that the cleanup of hazardous waste sites and other pollution spills may be slowed or paused during the coronavirus outbreak.
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[11-Apr-20 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-23/kushner-cos-gets-800-million-federally-backed-apartment-loan


[11-Apr-20 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Kushner Cos., the real estate firm owned by the family of President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, has received about $800 million in federally backed debt to buy apartments in Maryland and Virginia -- the company’s biggest purchase in a decade.
> 
> The loan was issued by Berkadia, a lender co-owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and Jefferies Financial Group Inc., in a deal that’s backed by government-owned Freddie Mac, according to a person familiar with the matter who asked not to be named discussing the private transaction.
> 
> The arrangement increases the government’s exposure to Kushner Cos. at the same time that its former chief executive officer is one of the most powerful people in the White House. Jared Kushner divested ownership in many of the company’s assets to close family members when he joined the government. Kushner Cos. had more than $500 million in loans from Fannie and Freddie at that time.
> 
> Spokespeople for Kushner Cos., Berkadia and Freddie Mac didn’t respond to requests for comment. Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for Jared Kushner’s attorney Abbe Lowell, has frequently said that Kushner has no involvement in the company’s management.
> 
> “As part of an ethics agreement he has and has followed, Mr. Kushner has had no role in the Kushner Companies or its activities since joining the government over two years ago,” Mirijanian said in a February email when Bloomberg first reported on the government’s potential involvement. “He is walled off from any business or investment decisions and has no idea or knowledge of these activities."Kushner Cos., the real estate firm owned by the family of President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, has received about $800 million in federally backed debt to buy apartments in Maryland and Virginia -- the company’s biggest purchase in a decade.


[11-Apr-20 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/9pA2r7C.mp4 sound in source

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[11-Apr-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump talks like his sentences are run through google translate 5 times before being written


[11-Apr-20 01:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If this is my english listening test, I will surely get 0 scores


[11-Apr-20 01:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Opponent there was a specific model, where on insurance plan one paid monthly for a year. In case of claims the member cannot get more than he paid over prevous months cumulatively. At end of term, the member receives the cumulative sum back, minus admin fee.


[11-Apr-20 02:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
> insurance companies shouldn't exist as a business model
@Opponent 

The fun thing about health insurance is they never always existed, of course. All the other models were made illegal, at least in the US. Once upon a time you could subscribe to your Union's health insurance pool where for a couple bucks a month you could tap into it whenever needed. Physicians co-ops also existed, and have only just started coming back; but the idea behind those is that for a low monthly fee you can get the free or low cost services of a partnership of doctors collecting the subscription.

Of course then the banks made up health insurance and literally went to government and private industry to make it defacto.


[11-Apr-20 04:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Haha money printer go brrr https://i.redd.it/qg3dzb15w5s41.jpg

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[11-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Meanwhile in Venezuela


[11-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Money ain't worth carrying it anymore

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[11-Apr-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/492338-gop-senators-urge-trump-to-protect-insurers-from-state

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GOP senators urge Trump to protect insurers from state legislation
Seven GOP senators sent a letter to President Trump on Friday asking that he commit to protecting the insurance industry from proposals in state legislatures that would require insurance companies to retroactively cover s
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[11-Apr-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
> Seven GOP senators sent a letter to President Trump on Friday asking that he commit to protecting the insurance industry from proposals in state legislatures that would require insurance companies to retroactively cover small business losses due to the coronavirus pandemic.


[11-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
💰


[11-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The EPA thing is to kill my town specifically btw.


[11-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't like Butte's existence.


[11-Apr-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if it were removed, they'd win the Senate in Montana every election, which would prevent any Dem majorities for a little while longer.


[11-Apr-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, my town is the posterchild for "mining screwed up the environment"


[11-Apr-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's the reason these days, mine operators must put up a complete plan for what to do when mining stops before any mining begins.


[11-Apr-20 05:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate that.


[11-Apr-20 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like the truthful narrative it creates.


[11-Apr-20 05:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the town has a campus and a bunch of Irish people, so it's reliably Democratic.


[11-Apr-20 05:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they really mean by "slow down or pause cleanup operations" is "tear shit down in Butte so that the river gets fukked up again by what's in the ground, so it's harder for Biden to come in later and resume keeping the town from dying"


[11-Apr-20 06:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249004689322053633?s=21

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Trump did a deal with Japan. A lot of our product goes to Japan, and we are booming in North Dakota.” Jim on C Span, Washington Journal. Our Trade Deals will be having a big impact on our Country as they kick in!
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[11-Apr-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i find no news about this trade deal


[11-Apr-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/040ecc3fb10e961714a3211ad1c049df

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US death toll closes in on Italy's as the Midwest braces
CHICAGO (AP) — The U.S. moved closer to overtaking Italy for the highest death toll in the world from the coronavirus Saturday as Chicago and other cities across the Midwest braced for a potential...
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[11-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That insurance thing is one of the most clear cut examples I've seen of how Republicans will use the federal gov't to overturn state shit.


[11-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Definitely a thing to keep mention of for whenever some idiot goes "BUT CONSERVATIVES LIKE STATE'S RIGHTS"


[11-Apr-20 06:23 PM] illumnious#7938
> i find no news about this trade deal
@prism stryder(intexda)  well he’s lying


[11-Apr-20 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
I was right about America got the most deaths

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[11-Apr-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/10/wisconsin-voter-restrictions-democracy-coronavirus-primary

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Wisconsin: the state where American democracy went to die
The state’s holding of a primary during a pandemic is just the latest example of Republicans’ unabashed bid to keep power through redrawn maps and voter restrictions
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[11-Apr-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody has ever actually defended states rights in a legit way


[11-Apr-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-pandemic-covid-19-latest-news-2020-04-11/

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At least 18,860 people have died due to the virus in the United States.
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[11-Apr-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
america, fuck yeah


[11-Apr-20 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Apr-20 06:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Welcome to MURICA


[11-Apr-20 06:50 PM] illumnious#7938
F


[11-Apr-20 07:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TheMendozaWoman/status/1248998239950508032

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Priti Patel:

 "Three hundred thousand and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"

If Diane Abbott made that mistake, it’d be front page news. 

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[11-Apr-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Murica! Post F!


[11-Apr-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/jbarab/status/1248731720855236610

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So, #OSHA says the employers outside of health care no longer have to determine whether employees' COVID infections may be work-related. So all you infected bus drivers, grocery store clerks, poultry processors -- you didn't get it at work. https://t.co/3kjXjx7gaM
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[11-Apr-20 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Apr-20 08:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-19-recovery-survivors-immunity-2020-4?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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More than 370,000 people have recovered from COVID-19. Here's what ...
Recovered COVID-19 patients may have residual cough or fatigue for weeks after the major symptoms disappear, and some could have lasting lung damage.
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[11-Apr-20 08:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249048063618043906

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WE WILL BUILD IT AGAIN!
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[11-Apr-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
build what again...?


[11-Apr-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another statue for his ego? a new golf resort?


[11-Apr-20 08:59 PM] illumnious#7938
a hotel


[11-Apr-20 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
or that shitwall


[11-Apr-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a second podium so he can shove more mics up his shit funnel?


[11-Apr-20 09:08 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Apr-20 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
> Shenderovich: I didn’t say that doctors shouldn’t heal people, because they extend… I didn’t say that. You’re the ones saying this on my behalf. That’s pretty low. The doctors, may God give them health, are saving people. That’s what they always needed to do, Putin Shmutin…
> Naryshkin: The more people are saved…
> Shenderovich: The better.
> Naryshkin: the longer Putin’s regime will last.


[11-Apr-20 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
I want stalinism back, but only for russian libs

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[11-Apr-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/themalaru/status/1248629967472091137

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twitter libertarians when someone posts a comic of a child getting fucked vs twitter libertarians when someone posts a comic of shoplifting
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[11-Apr-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking and then someone is going to post "children are the root problem" instead of people being hypocrite


[11-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Difference is usually one's a fetish in 99% of cases, other's a proud confession of having committed the actual crime...


[11-Apr-20 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How would she react to someone stealing her art, I wonder.

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[11-Apr-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Apr-20 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMizgSobbbA

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Experts: Trump "Severely Mentally Troubled"
--The World Mental Health Coalition is demanding the resignation, impeachment, or removal of Donald Trump over his "severe mental troubles" as evidenced by his handling of the coronavirus pandemic

Does Trump Have a Low IQ? https://youtu.be/drWvyKRmGF4

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[11-Apr-20 11:02 PM] jlun2#8758
isn't that why people voted for him


[11-Apr-20 11:06 PM] illumnious#7938
maybe


[11-Apr-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/492359-gop-lawmakers-fauci-may-be-doing-more-harm-than-good

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GOP lawmakers: Fauci may be doing more harm than good
Republican Reps.
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[11-Apr-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Republican Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.) and Ken Buck (Colo.) criticized Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, for the impact of his social distancing recommendations, claiming that the stay-at-home policies informed by those recommendations have forced businesses, workers and corporations into economic turmoil. 
> 
> “For Fauci, is it merely a societal or economic inconvenience that about 17 million workers are unemployed because of the government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, with many more to come in the weeks and months ahead? The economic calamity lies largely with the origination of policies resulting from Fauci's recommendations,” the lawmakers wrote in an op-ed in the Washington Examiner published Saturday.
> 
> Biggs and Buck, both members of the conservative Freedom Caucus and staunch allies of President Trump, join others on the right in criticizing public health officials on the administration’s coronavirus task force. On Tuesday, Tucker Carlson, a conservative commentator on Fox News, said that Fauci “shouldn’t be making economic decisions.”
> 
> The lawmakers' op-ed comes as the United States has seen record increases in unemployment. In the first week of April, more than 6 million people filed for unemployment, according to data released by the U.S. Labor Department. More than 10 million people applied for unemployment in the last two weeks of March as businesses shuttered due to fears of the pandemic's spread.


[11-Apr-20 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
The Line demands your sacrifice


[11-Apr-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
would you like temporary economic turmoil, where only a few hundred thousand die, or much more permanent economic turmoil, where millions die (and the economy crashes anyway, because so many are dying)?


[11-Apr-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like they want temporary, the future is future persons problem, the profit is now!


[11-Apr-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But our doners aren't lining our pockets right now and screaming at us to fuck the poor! We need that back immediately and this science man is keeping us from what we want!"


[11-Apr-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492339-trump-orders-robust-assistance-package-for-italy


[11-Apr-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
```build what again...?```


[11-Apr-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the wall, yes.


[11-Apr-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
another one.


[11-Apr-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
around the white house after we've taken every spare cellphone in the building


[11-Apr-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we will thne build a new uninfected white house


[12-Apr-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump will be in permanent quarentine with no outside world contact


[12-Apr-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) then he goes out to play golf, reenters his building, and realizes he messed up and needs a new one


[12-Apr-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he wont get one as the wall si sealed


[12-Apr-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suddenly, he drops his phone and the screen shatters, he has lost twitter and cannot reobtain it


[12-Apr-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rejects-bailout-that-included-aid-to-usps-report-says-2020-4

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[12-Apr-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Apr-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao even wsb is pissed https://redd.it/fys8a9

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[12-Apr-20 02:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Today is Sunday, new cases in America should be less than Saturday as before


[12-Apr-20 03:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Stonks high but bleh https://apple.news/Ate9iWP_nShunm1mOQrP8Qg

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Stocks have been swinging wildly for weeks. Here’s why they often d...
Though markets move erratically in the short-term, analysts say their outlook for the next week, month or quarter is generally spot on: "There is some method to the madness."
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQXRlOWlXUF9uU2h1bm0xbU9RclA4UWcAMA


[12-Apr-20 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
> We should not be afraid to note some potentially beneficial side effect of the epidemic. One of the lasting symbols of the epidemic is passengers trapped in quarantine on large cruise ships. Good riddance to the obscenity of such ships say I, though we have to be careful that travel to lone islands or other resorts will not once again become the exclusive privilege of the rich few, as it was decades ago with flying. Amusement parks are turning into ghost towns—perfect, I cannot imagine a more boring and stupid place than Disneyland. Car production is seriously affected—good, this may compel us to think about alternatives to our obsession with individual vehicles. The list can go on.


[12-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based Slovenian Sniffer has arrived


[12-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[12-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly, all these industries that were failing already or were propped up by constant investments upon investments and horrifically indebted will be saved with taxpayer money

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[12-Apr-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rejects-bailout-that-included-aid-to-usps-report-says-2020-4

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[12-Apr-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Apr-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being so petty that you want the post office shut down


[12-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's probably never gotten a letter sent to him via USPS


[12-Apr-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
He mailed in his vote


[12-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All he gets is legal documents via couriers and fedex


[12-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, I mean, he's never walked to a mailbox and gotten mail, or put a stamp on an envelope and taken it to a postbox or office


[12-Apr-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's too foreign to what 99.9% of americans experience


[12-Apr-20 03:57 AM] Midknight#9798
he thinks the grocery store will just bill you later for food you need now 😄


[12-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(on a technical level, they do if you pay by credit card =p )


[12-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Midknight#9798
no that's the credit card company billing you later


[12-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Midknight#9798
and you have to have an existing agreement/account with them for that to work 😛


[12-Apr-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
walmart gets their money by the end of the day


[12-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Midknight#9798
kinda hard to get credit if you are living paycheck to paycheck


[12-Apr-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not difficult to get _some_ credit, but it's shit you should run from without looking back (payday loans)


[12-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Midknight#9798
for some reason they only loan money to folks they think will be able to pay it back. can't imagine why...


[12-Apr-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
well with subprime (and outright fraudulent) loans


[12-Apr-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't expect it to be paid back really


[12-Apr-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they just charge usurious interest rates


[12-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Midknight#9798
they get theirs one way or another


[12-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
By selling the debt off once they flag the account as dried up, mostly


[12-Apr-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
hm, that reminds me


[12-Apr-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think discover sent me a paper copy of my bill this month


[12-Apr-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I checked and I don't have any weird charges so seems ok


[12-Apr-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
oh they just sent me a notification that they're going to fee fuck me harder


[12-Apr-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610

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[12-Apr-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
merica


[12-Apr-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking christ, the arbitration bs


[12-Apr-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't valid btw


[12-Apr-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
because I didn't explicitly enter into an agreement to arbitrate


[12-Apr-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
they can't force me to arbitrate in the future, especially not with a clause like "if you do not reply to this message within 30 days to opt out, you are automatically agreeing to binding arbitration"


[12-Apr-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
judges do _not_ take that shit for even a minute


[12-Apr-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
and if they challenge it I can file for summary judgement


[12-Apr-20 04:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[12-Apr-20 04:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can someone predick when the US can complete the "good job" of having 100 thousand deaths?


[12-Apr-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I predict there will be a... bump in the fatalities numbers in the next two weeks


[12-Apr-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
it's jesus day in the US and I know people are going to go to church no matter what


[12-Apr-20 04:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf...


[12-Apr-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter

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[12-Apr-20 04:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok doomers...


[12-Apr-20 04:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I mean, boomers


[12-Apr-20 05:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can't they just stay at home like Chinese did on 2020 Chinese New Year?


[12-Apr-20 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think you understand how pigheaded conservative americans can be, especially in "rural" areas


[12-Apr-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The government *recommending* they stay indoors at any one time is a huge affront to their independence; during a relgious event, it's tantamount to *communists* enforcing a dictatorship


[12-Apr-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anyoen tries to stop them they will "use their 2nd ammendement rights to protect their freedom"


[12-Apr-20 05:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok...


[12-Apr-20 05:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:faceclaw:


[12-Apr-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
murica!


[12-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
that's fine though.


[12-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
you wanted them gone, and now they will be.


[12-Apr-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wat:


[12-Apr-20 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
boomers and other religious folks suffer massive casualties, they're now branded as the 'plague generation', with US christianity being regarded as the Nurgle cult (not nessesarily with that name, but that idea :D)


[12-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
they suffer for their beliefs, everyone else wins. (in fact _everyone_ wins, christianity is big on martyrdom, which is really suffering due to one's own pig-headedness most of time)


[12-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it would spread elsewhere, of course, but to a lesser extent.


[12-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
you don't even need mass executions to achive your goals this time. God might indeed do all the work :3


[12-Apr-20 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
To be honest plague and catastrophe has often drawn out the strangest from the most devote. I don't think I need to point out the Self Flagellation movement during the Black Plague. It's a sort of crisis response I think. The comfotable norm has changed so much that anyone in everyone is in some way reaching for something that can give them a sense of control.


[12-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Midknight#9798
I've been saying for a while now, if they want to kill themselves off via plague so they have an even bigger chance of losing the election, I'm not gonna cry about it.


[12-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Midknight#9798
Just stay the ef away from me and mine ^_^


[12-Apr-20 05:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Midknight @Opponent that sounds way optimistic


[12-Apr-20 05:30 AM] jlun2#8758
even with 2m of them gone that's nothing compared to 67m, and 30% of that DO vote every single election. 17m young folks vote compared to 20+m


[12-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Midknight#9798
mmhmm, but we only need around 78k of them in 3 swing states


[12-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailylobo.com/article/2020/04/some-college-students-excluded-from-stimulus-checks

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Some college students excluded from stimulus checks
While many Americans wait eagerly for their $1200 stimulus check to come in the mail, some New Mexican college students have been left to fend for themselves. 
In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the president of the United States signed the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Econo...
https://snworksceo.imgix.net/tdl/469103f5-e78c-4bbb-bd11-563bdc0793e5.sized-1000x1000.jpg?w=800&h=600


[12-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
apparently I managed to miss this


[12-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
> For 19 to 23-year-old full-time college students, however, their status as legal dependents or undocumented immigrants bars them from receiving stimulus checks, according to Business Insider.

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[12-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
doesn't apply to me, but still


[12-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
seems like they put so many asterisks on receiving the bailout money just so they would have more to line corporate executive pockets with

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[12-Apr-20 05:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
does it state who put in that stipulation?


[12-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
which politician that introduced that into the bill?


[12-Apr-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I think it was Pelosi


[12-Apr-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
elite democrats must be given the boot


[12-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
These stipulations were put in by Republicans AFAIK.


[12-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic leadership didn't much care on the stipulations.


[12-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie wanted as few as possible.


[12-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans wanted all the asterisks they could buy.


[12-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the flipside, Democrats wanted to put in conditions on the stuff for big businesses.


[12-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
("small" is essentially a myth)


[12-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if they didn't care so much on stipulations. why did they halt the original bill and introduced a new bill that was 1,000 pages long?


[12-Apr-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
what does that even mean?


[12-Apr-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no functional difference between amending and replacing a bill.


[12-Apr-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it's not that Democrats wanted a free-for-all on everything put in


[12-Apr-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Each party wanted the other's givaways to be watered down with extra red tape.


[12-Apr-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but Republicans initially were against givaways to the poor **at all**)


[12-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats were fine in the abstract about business givaways, except Bernie.


[12-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do you have a source where the republicans expressed that and in what context?


[12-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the phase 2 bill, right?


[12-Apr-20 06:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the bill that has been to help the economy. such as stimulus checks to the people.
i'm not aware of any other bill that is currently being done for people affected by covid19


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looking into it, I found mention of Pelosi introducing a bill over 1000 pages


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's the phase 3 bill, not phase 2


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was talking about phase 2.


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is more than one fukking relief bill, you know.


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's gonna be at least FOUR of them by the time all is said and done.


[12-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did you mistake phase 3 for a rewrite of phase 2?


[12-Apr-20 06:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well blame it on the press making it all sound like one bill


[12-Apr-20 06:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
still. source please


[12-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The press never made it sound like one bill.


[12-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here is one of the main contentions Republicans had https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-coronavirus-economic-stimulus-package-bill-2020-03-25/

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Senators threaten to delay coronavirus stimulus bill in dispute ove...
The $2 trillion legislation is the largest stimulus package in American history.
https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2020/03/25/e80d86ff-d10a-415d-8cfb-a46d742d0612/thumbnail/1200x630/e5f963926862ab0d525fc5d029007c00/gettyimages-1208231795.jpg


[12-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't like Bernie adding unemployment provisions.


[12-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
(giving people tons more money)


[12-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, they indicate this is phase 3.


[12-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This has a bit more info on the leadup https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/coronavirus-stimulus-bill-senate-agrees-to-usd2-trillion-deal.html

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/coronavirus-stimulus-bill-senate-agrees-to-usd2-trillion-deal.html
Senate Reaches Deal on $2 Trillion Coronavirus Stimulus Bill
Democrats won oversight of corporate loans, beefed-up unemployment insurance, and direct aid to hospitals and state and local governments.
https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2020/03/24/25-mcconnell-schumer.w600.h315.2x.jpg


[12-Apr-20 06:38 AM] jlun2#8758
> Democrats won oversight of corporate loans
isnt that gone now


[12-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are old articles.


[12-Apr-20 06:42 AM] illumnious#7938
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/229820513738948609/644397199928721436/Meeting_the_President.webm

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[12-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looking at things, I got phase 3 mixed up with phase 2, everything we're discussing is phase 3


[12-Apr-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Phase 2 was the stuff about paid sikk leave and insurance actually acting like insurance for COVID-19.


[12-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, Republicans had this idea of direct cash to taxpayers from a very limited source.


[12-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats asked them for what they wanted.


[12-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans didn't tell them jakk shit.


[12-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-senate-vote-house-phase-two-bill-response/

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-senate-vote-house-phase-two-bill-response/
Trump signs coronavirus relief bill ensuring paid leave as White Ho...
The measure was passed by the Senate Wednesday after getting the green light in the House last week.
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2020/03/19/78d89698-ab9a-4de8-b548-057e48758db5/thumbnail/1200x630/35aa7eb2dbff4ed90c37762570278df6/ap-20077678601155.jpg


[12-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Pelosi just made her own fukking bill.


[12-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
BY THE WAY


[12-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
**All taxes must start in the House**


[12-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since taxes got touched pretty hard by this stuff, starting it in the Senate would've been...a bad idea.


[12-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, SCOTUS says no, etc.


[12-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if Democrats control the chamber that must create the bill


[12-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Republicans *won't talk to them*


[12-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Pelosi is going to drop a 1,000+ page bill instead of just waiting around while Republicans giv the stink eye.


[12-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's kind of her, you know, job.


[12-Apr-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, since it started in the House, it got all these Democrat things added to them.


[12-Apr-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans cried foul.


[12-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
sounds a bit predictable.


[12-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie was rather insistent on preserving certain things.


[12-Apr-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Already sering pessimist views of Biden that say "He'll get nothing but older voters"


[12-Apr-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't actually need the youth vote, that's one of the weird parts of politics.


[12-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8

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Jack Saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdbLUm-ez8
Sky High: Disney's Fascist Eugenics Movie | Jack Saint
Enjoy the vid? Support at https://www.patreon.com/jacksaint
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iIdbLUm-ez8/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
I think I linked this before, but it popped up randomly in recommended on a video I finished (the videos have literally nothing in common with each other)


[12-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
> Hitler was a human being.
> So are liberals.
> Checkmate atheists.


[12-Apr-20 08:28 AM] jlun2#8758
what


[12-Apr-20 08:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hitler was a human being. *Therefore humans are Nazis.*


[12-Apr-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/492312-pressure-for-quick-action-on-next-relief-bill-strains-gop-unity

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Pressure for quick action on next relief bill strains GOP unity
The pressure on Congress to act swiftly on another round of coronavirus relief is creating tension among Republicans.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hawleyjosh_012320gn2_lead.jpg


[12-Apr-20 01:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1249077993449947144?s=19

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https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1249077993449947144?s=19
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Twitter


[12-Apr-20 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492390-wapo-trump-allegedly-asked-fauci-if-officials-could-let-coronavirus

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WaPo: Trump allegedly asked Fauci if officials could let coronaviru...
President Trump reportedly asked Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert and a key member of the White House’s coronavirus task force, whether U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/faucianthony_trumpdonald_041020upi_lead.jpg


[12-Apr-20 02:15 PM] jlun2#8758
> The pressure on Congress to act swiftly on another round of coronavirus relief is creating tension among Republicans.
They survived 4 years of Trump quite unified, they'll be fine


[12-Apr-20 02:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
```
It is a slow day in the small town of Kakamas in the Northern Cape,and streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.

A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a R200 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.

As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

The butcher takes the R200 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.

The pig farmer takes the R200 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op.

The guy at the Co-op takes the R200 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner.

The hotel proprietor then places the R200 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the R200 bill and leaves.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything.......

However, the whole town is now out of debt and now looks to the future with a lot more optimism.

*And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how an Economic Stimulus package works* 🤣
```

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[12-Apr-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
it gets the job done.


[12-Apr-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Apr-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Fake news, mom! i have the best phase!"


[12-Apr-20 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trumps-mom-call-him-idiot/

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Dan Evon
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trumps-mom-call-him-idiot/
Did President Trump's Mom Once Call Him an 'Idiot'?
Just because a quote is displayed in a meme doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/12/mary-anne-trump.png?fit=1157,819


[12-Apr-20 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
> False

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[12-Apr-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
could be true, who fuckin knows


[12-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
false just means unsourced


[12-Apr-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-country-rolling-reopen-beginning-next-month-2020-4

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Fauci says US could see a 'rolling' reopen starting next month but ...
There are some indications that the outbreak was "starting to turn the corner," but reopening normal life would be "gradual," Dr. Fauci said Sunday.
https://i.insider.com/5e93192b15ea4b777c1da213?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Apr-20 05:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyone else think Fauci is doing exactly what a president ought to under these circumstances


[12-Apr-20 05:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, imagine if the US had a president that had been saying what Fauci has this whole time. We'd be in a very different state of affairs


[12-Apr-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost like a profit oriented casino killer doesnt make a good president in any form of emergency


[12-Apr-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fauci has been the white house's most valuable asset in this emergency situation and i fear he may soon run into trouble if trump gets impatient enough or enough republicans get ansy about fauci's moves


[12-Apr-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially if tucker carlson is one of those republicans


[12-Apr-20 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/Ac2m060OpRhqcHlMrsImSoQ

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Cheeseburger with a side of toilet paper: Restaurants pivot to groc...
The country’s food supply chains are quickly recalibrating to get people the goods they need now, blurring the networks that have stocked supermarkets and restaurant kitchens for decades.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQWMybTA2ME9wUmhxY0hsTXJzSW1Tb1EAMA


[12-Apr-20 06:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AJzqANzidTl-O0hRYdQC-HA

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Coronavirus: Fed's Kashkari says economic recovery could be a 'long...
Kashkari's comments came days after the Labor Department reported that another 6.6 million Americans filed first-time unemployment claims in the past week.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQUp6cUFOemlkVGwtTzBoUllkUUMtSEEAMA


[12-Apr-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/698876045385793576/eTiKd6d.png

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[12-Apr-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Apr-20 07:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Pinker trying to defend Biden live on CNN when asked about handshakes is crazy.


[12-Apr-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's weird cause I never got the impression Pinker was that big into a party establishment, he seemed more the type that would go faux independent and then not care about liberal causes, so vote for Nader.


[12-Apr-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/postal-service-funding-crisis-could-harm-voting-by-mail-coronavirus-2020-4

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Trump reportedly rejected approving a bailout package that would re...
The Washington Post reported on Saturday that Trump refused to sign a stimulus package that included funding for the Postal Service, which millions rely on.
https://i.insider.com/5c700d1574c58770727ca1c2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[12-Apr-20 07:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Gosh, it's almost like the guy who last voted by mail doesn't want people voting by mail


[12-Apr-20 07:49 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[12-Apr-20 07:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(but really, the GOP has been trying to kill USPS for *years*)


[12-Apr-20 07:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they really are picking and choosing what parts of the constitution they want to defend, and the bits they *do* want have been subverted to the point that they're effectively defending the opposite of what the framers intended


[12-Apr-20 07:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'd be real easy to alleviate the USPS funding crisis if they weren't actively trying to starve it


[12-Apr-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
the framers would definitely not be happy about the anti-intellectual political party successfully instituting a monarchy


[12-Apr-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
it's hard to conclude much else though


[12-Apr-20 07:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've had a similar outlook on public transportation in my own state - PA state legislature has been playing "starve the beast" with it for decades


[12-Apr-20 07:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for concluding much else about the framers' intent, it really boils down to whether or not you think Ben Franklin's input on the constitution is worth preserving


[12-Apr-20 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
his political alignment (especially in regards to his time spent in France) is effectively the grandfather of what could best be described today as socialist...while at the same time, the roots of the modern conservative movement can *also* be found in the French revolution


[12-Apr-20 07:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...just on the side that had their heads chopped off


[12-Apr-20 07:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's been over 200 years since then and the same ideological conflict is underpinning the partisan divide in the US


[12-Apr-20 07:56 PM] jlun2#8758
why does GOP hate USPS


[12-Apr-20 07:56 PM] jlun2#8758
also if US becomes a monarchy can't wait for idiot offspring to kill it off, unless we have amazing life extension


[12-Apr-20 07:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They believe the private sector is always better - and they hate government programs that use more money than they generate themselves


[12-Apr-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
also kinda "funny" US was trying to spread democracy everywhere and they lose it


[12-Apr-20 07:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if those government programs have even the slightest *whiff* of being socialist


[12-Apr-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically they ewant to replace the usps with a profit printer that will collapse immediately becuase no one would pay into it


[12-Apr-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP hates USPS because it enables efficient and effective communication and this runs counter to conservative ideology


[12-Apr-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also that


[12-Apr-20 08:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's also good for its employees


[12-Apr-20 08:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Basically, if anything at all sounds altruistic about a government program, it must be crushed


[12-Apr-20 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a lot similar to why thye want taxes to be as convoluted as possible to pay


[12-Apr-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm still surprise GOP hasn't collapsed on itself yet with its contradictions


[12-Apr-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they forbid the IRS from just telling you how much you owe, and instead you have to go through hack kneed tax filing corporatons to get it done


[12-Apr-20 08:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
“I’m Joe Biden and I forgot this message”

-Obama’s Friend


[12-Apr-20 08:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, *no other business or government entity in the entire COUNTRY* is required to fully prefund retirement pensions for the next 75 years


[12-Apr-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony do pensions even exist for younger employees


[12-Apr-20 08:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
doesn't matter


[12-Apr-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you have to squash every resource the peasants have or else thye might use those resources to rise against you


[12-Apr-20 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the PAEA is one of the worst pieces of legislation to happen in decades, if not centuries


[12-Apr-20 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, its entire purpose is to make life unnecessarily hard for the USPS


[12-Apr-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony probably not "Physician Assistant Education Association"?


[12-Apr-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Postal Accountability Enhancement Act


[12-Apr-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they had 10 years to scrounge up money to pay for 75 years of pensions


[12-Apr-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's something like $5.5 billion every year, for 10 years, and it *crippled* them


[12-Apr-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
pensions and retirements at 65 is a mistake


[12-Apr-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
my grandpa is 90


[12-Apr-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and the best part about PAEA? It passed on a voice vote


[12-Apr-20 08:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they really didn't want people poring into the details of the bill


[12-Apr-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
there's no way a company will fund him for almost 3 decades, let alone me (or anyone not boomer) in the future


[12-Apr-20 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/WrzOUC9

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Save The Post Office
https://i.imgur.com/yahcbkxh.jpg


[12-Apr-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
Do Twitter activism even do shit


[12-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
No


[12-Apr-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
outside easy internet points


[12-Apr-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
k


[12-Apr-20 08:18 PM] jlun2#8758
have fun with no usps


[12-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no it;s just a postal employee explainign stuff


[12-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
very specific details about why this industry should never be fuckling privitized


[12-Apr-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such as the fact that it would be one of the final nails in rural areas


[12-Apr-20 08:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://mobile.twitter.com/BlackLivityCN/status/1249011762638266374

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[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, one more thing about shipping prices? As anyone in the nsfw channel can attest to, one of the most common complaints about Bad Dragon is that their shipping costs are astronomical


[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Guess what shipping service they do not offer?


[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] jlun2#8758
far off rural areas?


[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, they'll ship anywhere it's legal to


[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] jlun2#8758
usps?


[12-Apr-20 08:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but expect to pay at *least* $15, even if you're literally just buying stickers


[12-Apr-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
i just assume by now half this channel lives in rural america


[12-Apr-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thje death of the post office would probably kill mail to my area because it;s likely not profitable to ship to my area witohut raising prices astronomically


[12-Apr-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but the usps has universal pricing


[12-Apr-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
many shipping companies also dump the unprofitable packages onto the usps because thye cant make bank off them


[12-Apr-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a for profit system, those packages and letters would probably be landfill trash


[12-Apr-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or charged quadruple


[12-Apr-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would also fuck up the ability to pay bills and taxes


[12-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
```GOP hates USPS because it enables efficient and effective communication```


[12-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
national postal service


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
enabling effecient and effective communication


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
which planet do you folks live on again?


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the one in which the GOP crippled the postal service


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sendign letters tends to only costs $0.50c


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
doing it by fedex or ups costs $15


[12-Apr-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I've not seen or heard of a national postal service of recent decades working _well_ or at least _adequately_


[12-Apr-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yes the internet exists


[12-Apr-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the usps is surprisingly effective for what little thye have right now


[12-Apr-20 08:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but critical stuff still happens by mail because a) not everyone has the internet but we're all required to have mail service and b) snail mail is just plain *reliable*


[12-Apr-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;d be way mroe efficient if republicans werent actively sabotaging them


[12-Apr-20 08:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, think about it, which last-mile service has a better track record - lasership, or USPS?


[12-Apr-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell if it werent for the usps we wouldnt get half the packages we do get


[12-Apr-20 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
```there's no way a company will fund him for almost 3 decades, let alone me (or anyone not boomer) in the future```


[12-Apr-20 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
not to worry, you'll be out on your ass to starve as soon as possible soon as you hit an arbitrary age, and a 20-something will eagerly replace you for half the pay.


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah 20 somethings arent as eager to half the pay these days


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it's that or starvation


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
so...


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
starvation sounds better


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
machines don't care about getting paid and their operating costs are lower


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be starvation regardless


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's only when that's not true that massive industries still use manual labor


[12-Apr-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the pay means you cant pay for shit


[12-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
just gotta pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Ez pz.


[12-Apr-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the boot straps burned in a fire


[12-Apr-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently, Denmark fully privatized their national mail service


[12-Apr-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Guess what? It's terrible


[12-Apr-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the things keeping rural areas alive is the usps


[12-Apr-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without them rural areas are practically cut off fromt he outside world outside of very limited internet capabilities


[12-Apr-20 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
we have a private courier service that all but replaced government one. It's amazing


[12-Apr-20 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
and a government one is basicly one big corruption scheme


[12-Apr-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes, the ability to send letters is a giant corruptiuon scheme


[12-Apr-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
in recent years they've _ tried_ but the brand's been irreversibly tainted.


[12-Apr-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah well


[12-Apr-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
if you gonna send mail by government mail service, expect to never see it again


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
if you send a package, DEFINITELY expect to never see it again


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ups literally smashes packages


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as does fedex


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
between  that or nothing, nothing sounds pretty damn rad


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well then


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
perhaps it's not about which type of funding you use but how you run your business.


[12-Apr-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s about privitization vs a real fucking postal service


[12-Apr-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what may have worked for ukraine probabbly wont work for america considering our regulations are shit


[12-Apr-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fedex could make a bon fire of personal letters sent to dear relatives for $15 a pop and probably wouldnt meet any legal problems


[12-Apr-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the usps you probably wouldnt even get half the shit you order because the privatized companies would have dumped it in a landfill for being unprofitable instead of handing it off to the non proft orginization


[12-Apr-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would also severely limit voting especially in a lockdown crisis


[12-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lmao if you privatized the postal service shitloads of rural areas wouldn't have any mail delivery


[12-Apr-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like mine


[12-Apr-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mine is very far out here


[12-Apr-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no privatized delivery service would come out here without jakcing up prices liek crazy


[12-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what people did before rural delivery programs, you paid a private company to pick up your mail at the post office then deliver it


[12-Apr-20 09:05 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent sometimes I feel like I'm seeing a glimpse of an alternate reality in this channel too


[12-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Come on @Opponent , Russian post is not that bad


[12-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It was much worse before 2011


[12-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
I was thinking Ukrainian. Russian's probably a bit better actually.


[12-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Putin: "What's the difference?"


[12-Apr-20 09:09 PM] Opponent#3498
they've been trying to modernise post-2016 I guess, but I've no idea if that ever went anywhere. Never used them in recent years.


[12-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Opponent#3498
for the longest time it was this depressing Soviet-era thing, only really good for carrying newspapers and bills


[12-Apr-20 09:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://time.com/5819728/gun-retailers-atf-coronavirus/?amp=true#click=https://t.co/OpMW1WTmlT

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Gun Shops Can Sell Firearms From Parking Lots and Offer Drive-Thru ...
The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued the guidance in an industry letter published Friday
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[12-Apr-20 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
drive-thru gun stores


[12-Apr-20 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
AMERICA


[12-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah admittedly even I have mixed feelings about this.


[12-Apr-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
they buy guns to defend themselves of covid right


[12-Apr-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Grandmuh's got the china flu boys, i guess we hafta put'er down"


[12-Apr-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.rbth.com/history/326350-soviet-satellites-sink-british-warships

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During the ten-week Falklands War in spring 1982, U.S. satellites provided vital intelligence to the UK that contributed to the sinking of Argentina’s light cruiser, the ARA General Belgrano. Meanwhile, Soviet satellites were helping Argentina to send British ships to the bott...
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[12-Apr-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> As recently as January 1982, Foreign Minister Costa Méndez had proclaimed that Argentina did not belong to the Third World, proclaiming that Argentines were "white and Christian".26 However, when support failed to materialize, the Argentine regime realized that it could more easily summon support from Third World countries, many of them neither white nor Christian, by presenting the conflict within a colonial framework. This led to the somewhat paradoxical situation, in which the non-aligned governments of Cuba and Nicaragua supported the Argentina case, and Argentina found "itself a first-class ally of countries it had fought nationally and internationally, in political terms".27


[12-Apr-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> In a letter to the heads of state of the Non-Aligned Movement in May 1982, Fidel Castro urged them to back Argentina in the Falklands/Malvinas War.1 This was a 'colonial war' "about to reach its most painful and criminal stage", which "the imperialist powers are trying to turn into a lesson for all third world countries", he impressed upon them.2


[12-Apr-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao what


[12-Apr-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
before we move on, though, I just wanna say that I think a drive-thru model for gun shops is actually a good thing and I wish it were more the norm


[12-Apr-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Reason being that if it goes from being a tent in a parking lot to something more brick-and-mortar, it puts a physical barrier between the customer and *all* of the goods


[12-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism's French Revolution roots aren't in Ben Franklin and the like


[12-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're in the reaction to it.


[12-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The monarchy was clearly now untenable so the aristocracy needed something new to retain power, and something that wasn't directly hereditary, and something that could survive democracy.


[12-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The market was the obvious choice


[12-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of using wealth to attain titles, simply use wealth itself as your influence, and make a spiel about how you deserved it.


[12-Apr-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The founders for the most part would be pretty horrified by how ridiculous this has gotten.


[12-Apr-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time they were still alive, it was in its infancy, they mostly agreed with it on racial separation and there were bigger fish to fry, like monarchy itself.


[12-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The lest century and a half tho has proven that conservatism is incompatible with the consitution's very principles.


[12-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, conservatism believes that all people are not made equal.


[12-Apr-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
>  they mostly agreed with it on racial separation 
racism isn't going to die ever isnt it


[12-Apr-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
people are willing to put race aside to put landlords' heads on platters


[12-Apr-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
but they have to stop being appeased first


[12-Apr-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
Neoliberalism survives through appeasement


[12-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 ...you're way off


[12-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is racism was SUPER alive 250 years ago.


[12-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be DEAD in 100 years.


[12-Apr-20 09:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
re: Ben Franklin and the french revolution


[12-Apr-20 09:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
my point was that Ben was on the *revolutionary* side


[12-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that if you teleported George Washington and Alexander Hamilton to the modern day, they'd take a bit to get used to the idea that like, oh wait, all men made equal means blakks too and people are slowly tearing apart racial discrimination.


[12-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The understanding of the time was that blakks etc. would just not be able to elevate themselves, cause of theories of racial differences in intellect etc.


[12-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
People at the time had little clue just how much access to resources in early childhood impacted how you turned out.


[12-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racism was so everpresent and pervasive that analyzing anything objectively in terms of race was impossible.


[12-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't until the 80s,


[12-Apr-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
the NINETEEN 80s


[12-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
that archeologists were wholly onboard with the idea that statues of people in Africa were made by...Africans.


[12-Apr-20 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
> 1980s
rip. ty


[12-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason conservatives now hate academia is that academia despite being full of old people has come to the conclusion racism is unjustifiable.


[12-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Along with academia now having actual evidence of the destruction various business bring.


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives hate academia because they are staunch anti-intellectuals


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but they didn't used to be.


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bakk when Academia was pumping out utter nonsense justifying racism, they were all for it.


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
TIL


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is recent.


[12-Apr-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
if they weren't anti-intellectuals then they would have to listen to academics and academics would constantly be showing them they were wrong


[12-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem for them is that Academia got interested in stuff like race, and eventually science did as science does.


[12-Apr-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
but by discrediting it wholesale they can just plug their ears


[12-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, businesses started polluting like maaad.


[12-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
At this point, their only ties to it are economists and people like Pinker.


[12-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They like Pinker because he can disprove the crazier ramblings of SJUWs.


[12-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Economists meanwhile are easy to buy, and there's a huge stokk of old ones from before the current major economic policies were proven to be utter BS


[12-Apr-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually that stokk will run out.


[12-Apr-20 10:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie i have a question. why do you call them sjuw instead of sjw?
and when did you start replacing c's with k's? was that something you started doing as a kid? or was when you were older as a teen or college student. Do you do it for things in real life? or just here?


[12-Apr-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
what does sjuw stand for again? is it same as sjw, but JUstice is expanded?


[12-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Macarou#9574
If you were to vocalize it, it would sound like Sjew


[12-Apr-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
I vocalize it as "ESS JAY DOUBLE YEW" (same for other acronyms, I say it letter by letter)


[12-Apr-20 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
social just-us warrior


[12-Apr-20 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
refers to authleft antiwhite ethnonationalists


[12-Apr-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> Economists meanwhile are easy to buy, and there's a huge stokk of old ones from before the current major economic policies were proven to be utter BS
> Eventually that stokk will run out.
I'm just waiting for them to get replaced by people who actually use computer models instead of weird, not even sure if based on data human ones


[12-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```On a fundamental level, conservatism believes that all people are not made 
equal.```
which they aren't.


[12-Apr-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
SJUWs are the kinds of crazies who will scream at white people for enjoying indian curries and learning foreign languages


[12-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
racism is simply an answer to a question 'what to do about it'.


[12-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
one of several available. Probably a wrong one, in this day and age.


[12-Apr-20 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
everyone is the same person anyways


[12-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well I doubt i'm the same as you.


[12-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
otherwise we'd all be clones


[12-Apr-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well biologically we're all the same species with biological variations based on where our races evolved to adapt


[12-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5HCi-zsYE

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HAIRY LEGS - Songify Joe Biden getting fired up about legs and the ...
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[12-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's time for a president that understands Coldplay is the best band in the world."- Pete Buttigieg, 2020


[12-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Veers#6437

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[12-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Veers#6437
Best nation


[12-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Veers#6437
Best politics


[12-Apr-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/492433-all-50-states-under-disaster-declaration-for-first

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All 50 states under disaster declaration for first time in US history
All 50 states are under a major disaster declaration for the first time in U.S. history, after President Trump approved Wyoming’s declaration Saturday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_040220getty_doctors.jpg


[12-Apr-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/699002771986186310/IMG_20200412_150608.jpg

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[12-Apr-20 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They deleted the tweet


[12-Apr-20 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And edited the original article to remove the last sentence

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[12-Apr-20 11:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.thecut.com/2020/04/the-woman-on-the-bridge.html#comments

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The Woman on the Bridge
Estelle knew her fiancé had betrayed her. She had no idea what else he was capable of.
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[12-Apr-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of SJUW over SJW is it rips away all the positive connotations by pointing out their main goal is just exclusion and premature judgment.


[13-Apr-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Veers oh hello welcome to the cursed realm


[13-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mercola/status/1248264841216884737

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https://twitter.com/mercola/status/1248264841216884737
Nebulized hydrogen peroxide therapy is an inexpensive and simple way to treat most viral respiratory illnesses. All you need is a nebulizer with a face mask that covers your mouth and nose, and common household hydrogen peroxide, available at most grocery stores and pharmacie...
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Twitter


[13-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb, when everyone knows forsythia cures it. Everyone else is just trying to trick you. I totally had it, and forsythia cured it in a second.


[13-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny a 2011 movie had the person shilling fake cures to a pandemic be an Internet crank and not you know, the president.


[13-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They expected another Obama.


[13-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not something 5 times worse than Bush.


[13-Apr-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-navy-evacuates-roughly-80-of-uss-theodore-roosevelt-crew-2020-4

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US Navy evacuates over 80% of USS Theodore Roosevelt crew as nearly...
The carrier's former captain had pleaded with the Navy to take decisive action and evacuate most of the crew ashore.
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[13-Apr-20 01:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> They expected another Obama.
> Not something 5 times worse than Bush.
Trump?


[13-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably Romney or someone like Bobby Jindal.


[13-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence "another Obama"


[13-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(not in terms of ideology but in terms of not rocking the boat/being calm etc)


[13-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
5 times worse than Bush is Trump.


[13-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Romney is what they'd expect as "another Obama"


[13-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Turns out Tea Party was never about taxes, just always racism


[13-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Apr-20 02:52 AM] illumnious#7938
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For the first time in history there is a fully signed Presidential Disaster Declaration for all 50 States. We are winning, and will win, the war on the Invisible Enemy!
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[13-Apr-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
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Thank you Paris! https://t.co/hDUppWgIXA
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[13-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/492434-trump-blasts-chris-wallace-asks-what-the-hell-is-happening-to-fox-news

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[13-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
> All 50 states are under a national emergency declaration with a pandemic ripping through every community.
> 
> Meanwhile Trump is busy whining on twitter about a TV show.


[13-Apr-20 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938
as always


[13-Apr-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but muh ratings!


[13-Apr-20 03:52 AM] illumnious#7938
like I said, BLEH


[13-Apr-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-retweets-threat-fire-fauci-2020-4

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It's not clear whether it's more than a vague threat, but Trump has fired several prominent public servants over the last few weeks.
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[13-Apr-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it begins


[13-Apr-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish trump werent so predictable


[13-Apr-20 04:24 AM] Midknight#9798
"THE ONE THING AH CANNOT ABIDE IN MY ADMINISTRATION IS COMPETENCE!!"


[13-Apr-20 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/492303-lawmakers-cry-foul-as-trump-considers-retreating-from-open-skies-treaty

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[13-Apr-20 04:33 AM] Midknight#9798
was that one ratified by congress or was it another executive only thing that he can basically tear up because shits and giggles?


[13-Apr-20 04:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies

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[13-Apr-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Apr-20 07:03 AM] Opponent#3498
where did the avocado meme start?


[13-Apr-20 07:03 AM] Opponent#3498
seems not entirely obvious


[13-Apr-20 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some "journalist" or whatever saying milenials wining about not having money should stop frivolous purchases like avocado toast


[13-Apr-20 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/moralisers-we-need-you/news-story/6bdb24f77572be68330bd306c14ee8a3


[13-Apr-20 07:09 AM] Opponent#3498
rip paywall


[13-Apr-20 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
avacado toast was like 2014 I think


[13-Apr-20 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
it was certainly pre Trump


[13-Apr-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/_Henn_dawg/status/1249492158761054209

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@NateSilver538 The internet people saying they won’t vote for Biden never showed up to vote for Bernie either so
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[13-Apr-20 07:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As a fad, yeah, as a meme it wasn't that long ago


[13-Apr-20 07:43 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking 
> internet people
> not voting
well of course.


[13-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Trump doesn't want expanded mail-in voting.


[13-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials would actually vote.


[13-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federal holiday.


[13-Apr-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
this dude deleted his tweet chain for some reason https://archive.fo/PxYZK


[13-Apr-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
got linked last week


[13-Apr-20 08:09 AM] jlun2#8758
so it was sunday. did anyone see any large church meetings?


[13-Apr-20 08:22 AM] illumnious#7938

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[13-Apr-20 09:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/04/09/japan-ditches-china-in-multi-billion-dollar-coronavirus-shakeout/amp/

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Japan Ditches China In Multi-Billion Dollar Coronavirus Shakeout
The biggest price China will have to pay for the pandemic is the remapping of the global supply chain away from her shores.
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[13-Apr-20 12:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "remapping"?


[13-Apr-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pulling business out of china and rerouting it to new locations


[13-Apr-20 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the "made in china" label for a lot of their products will now say something completely different


[13-Apr-20 01:26 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
made in america


[13-Apr-20 01:27 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
that would be great


[13-Apr-20 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure japan wants our shoddy bullshit


[13-Apr-20 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention rerouting it to america would just reroute it back to china with a middleman


[13-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think if we can rebuild our economic structure


[13-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think it could work


[13-Apr-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in order to rebuild our economic structure, we need to be willing to punish private industry for making the wrong moves


[13-Apr-20 01:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we need to have manufacturing in America


[13-Apr-20 01:29 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
more jobs


[13-Apr-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stock buy backs, mass layoffs, denying sick leave, ect


[13-Apr-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exporting manufacturing to china is another thing we need to change


[13-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the more manufacturing jobs in the us


[13-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
more quality


[13-Apr-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if those manufacturing plants are properly regulated


[13-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but


[13-Apr-20 01:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
mexico should not be a manufacturing hub


[13-Apr-20 01:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the us is at its point where it wants more jobs


[13-Apr-20 01:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
this could bring back the manufacturing dream back into the united states


[13-Apr-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of america;s major problems is it;s supply side only economic model


[13-Apr-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s more profitable to send the factories to china and have them make the products to sell cheaply in america


[13-Apr-20 01:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well


[13-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think china screwed up


[13-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and should lose its manufacturing partners


[13-Apr-20 01:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and the us can make its own shit


[13-Apr-20 01:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we used to do it


[13-Apr-20 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our factories are amazingly outdated


[13-Apr-20 01:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would take a lot of money to upgrade thme to today;s standards


[13-Apr-20 01:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well


[13-Apr-20 01:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is one of the focal reasons companies shipped manufacturing over seas


[13-Apr-20 01:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
my thing is this


[13-Apr-20 01:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
japan and Vietnam could be strong economic partners with the us


[13-Apr-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
japan already is a strong economic partner with america


[13-Apr-20 01:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well its time to rebuild Americas infrastructure


[13-Apr-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which again requires that we basically guillotine the private sector and make them our bitch


[13-Apr-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have to stop bailing companies out when they crash


[13-Apr-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to start taxing thme again, and we need to start heavily regulatign that shit


[13-Apr-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unions will need more staying power, we need to figure out how to make upgrading our crumbling factories and roads more palatable for companies instead of outsourcing


[13-Apr-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and for fucks sake, we need an affordable housing market


[13-Apr-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also need a properly kept up healthcare system to look after the workers so they arent becoming too sick to work


[13-Apr-20 01:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well i dont think biden is going to do that


[13-Apr-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, he wont. which is why the congressional election is so important


[13-Apr-20 01:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think biden is too looney


[13-Apr-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is basically a figure head, he;s for whatever the majority of the party is for


[13-Apr-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now the majority of the party is for not rocking the boat, we need to replace them with people who will take risks which in turn will force biden;s hand


[13-Apr-20 01:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and Pelosi and Schumer are wasting time


[13-Apr-20 01:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i am more likely voting republican again


[13-Apr-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the real challenge is killing off the gop hold on the senate


[13-Apr-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you dont liek biden, so you;re going to vote for the peopel who want to murder this country faster?


[13-Apr-20 01:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that makes no sense


[13-Apr-20 01:50 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think people need to understand that we been wasting too much time on shit that does not matter


[13-Apr-20 01:50 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we need too get stuff done


[13-Apr-20 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and so far the republicans haver voted tooth and nail against gettign stuff done


[13-Apr-20 01:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 01:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think the democrats are pushing shit that's not needed


[13-Apr-20 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like healthcare?


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and affordable housing


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and scientific research


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and job programs


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
let me ask you this


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and labor rights


[13-Apr-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those are unneeded, right?


[13-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
why is California so damn expensive


[13-Apr-20 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the privatized indiustry ran rampant in california


[13-Apr-20 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reaLOTORS CHARGE out the ass because apartments are closer to jobs


[13-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the cities have huge populations which in turn throws prices further upwards


[13-Apr-20 01:54 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
california looks like a third world country


[13-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can thank the private industry for that


[13-Apr-20 01:54 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
by the democrats


[13-Apr-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats have lsot control over private industries due to federal interference and defunding


[13-Apr-20 01:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think Obama was a terrible president


[13-Apr-20 01:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and we been wasting time


[13-Apr-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama wasnt great, but he atleast tried, unlike our current shitshow


[13-Apr-20 01:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 01:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
obama did not do shit


[13-Apr-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the affordable healthcare act actually did quite a bit for america until republicans started fucking with it


[13-Apr-20 01:57 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
obama care was terrible


[13-Apr-20 01:57 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and is still terrible


[13-Apr-20 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also introduced a lot of regulatiosn that restabalized the economy after the 2008 recession


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well i think im voting republican


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
regulations that have since been removed and now our economy is crashing all around us again


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase of china


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no because of lobbyists and the gop senate


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china has nothing to do with our in country regulations


[13-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well i think its time for the house to be fixed


[13-Apr-20 01:59 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and get shit done


[13-Apr-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have passed upwards of 250 bills in the last few months


[13-Apr-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mitch mcconnell has refused to hold a vote on any of them


[13-Apr-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of those bills were infrustructure funding and shit liek that


[13-Apr-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know, the stuff needed to get shit done


[13-Apr-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate gop has refused to vote on any of it, and thus have walled off getting shit done


[13-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i don't want socialism in my country


[13-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
vote republican, get EMPEROR DRUMP. Or don't. It's that simple.


[13-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im voting trump

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[13-Apr-20 02:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
so there


[13-Apr-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you want total collapsed capitalism in an unstable and dying system that is currently on fire?


[13-Apr-20 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
better dead than red, or so they say.


[13-Apr-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good for you, enjoy it


[13-Apr-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whent he bank coems for your hosue, tell them that you held your groudn agaisnt the socialist monsters


[13-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
no cost is too great for victory.


[13-Apr-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will reward you greatly for your efforts!


[13-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well its time to get shit done


[13-Apr-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
GET SHIT DONE! MURDER A<MERICA!


[13-Apr-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck yeah!


[13-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wow


[13-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
thats sad


[13-Apr-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
nah. Get it done, and get over with it.


[13-Apr-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing lasts forever, and 250 or so years is a pretty solid score for a nation already.


[13-Apr-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well right now we have thousands of people dead to a pandemic that could have been easily prevented excdept that rpeventing it wouldnt have been profitable so they didnt bother


[13-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
how about we get the corona virus out first


[13-Apr-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[13-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and get rid of the problems


[13-Apr-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is the gop currently, who are blocking all efforts to solve the fucking pandemic


[13-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
nah. Just need to restart the economy. Let people work! The weak will die, the rest build immunity. Easy.


[13-Apr-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is holding vital equipment hostage fpor the sake of his own ego


[13-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
no cost is too great.


[13-Apr-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the elderly must be sacrificed for the almighty dollar, GET SHIT DONE!


[13-Apr-20 02:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
> i don't want socialism in my country
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal 

Too bad. You're going to get Chinese Style Command Capitalism after this or full Communism.


[13-Apr-20 02:10 PM] Opponent#3498
*for the plebs


[13-Apr-20 02:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
The material conditions demand it


[13-Apr-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-retweets-threat-fire-fauci-2020-4 trump is also currently mulling over firing the best asset on his pandemic team

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[13-Apr-20 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all because his expertise contradicts trump's terrible business decisions


[13-Apr-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes, let;s rebuild america under russio-chinese capital communism!


[13-Apr-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which seems to be the opposite of communism in every sense of the word


[13-Apr-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
The world is a runaway train where the crew has bailed and we are the passengers. We must hit the emergency brake and stop it all or die.


[13-Apr-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Walter Benjamin time


[13-Apr-20 02:15 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
maybe we just want make stronger relations


[13-Apr-20 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by selling all our business to china, that sounds liek a great plan


[13-Apr-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want to rebuild america;s infrustructure while taking manufacturing out of china, we need to break the stronger economic relations with china and breka their strangle hold on our industries


[13-Apr-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tariffs will not do this, tariffs will jsut encourage businesses to move to china because tariffs are a fine for the supply side, not the seller


[13-Apr-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like sales tax on buying something from a brick and mortar store


[13-Apr-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the store doesnt pay that tax, you do


[13-Apr-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china doesnt pay the tariff, the importer does


[13-Apr-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why harley davidson had to build a whole uk branch because it became too expensive to import the materials to america to build their bikes for a foreign market


[13-Apr-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so far tariffs seem to be trump's only idea for getting shit done


[13-Apr-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
outside of outbidding other countries for imports to steal their supplies


[13-Apr-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or sending feds to states to steal their siupplies for the federal reserve


[13-Apr-20 02:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to break China you stop playing capitalism, since China has established itself as the new form of capitalism the world will need to take on. There is no point at which capitalism will fall apart, it will keep evolving. Which is why the train of progress itself needs to be seized and stopped so that it no longer continues down the path of capitalism and a new stretch of tracks to a new future can be laid. The simple act of abandoning capitalism and leading a movement away from the free market will deny China a considerable amount of power, which is reliant on the trade relations it's had with other countries.

The history since the opening of China has proven that the belief China can be forced liberalized by Western buisiness has proven false over and over and is no longer a thing worth partaking in. For the Chinese part the relationship with America has gone between hostile to friendly depending on geopolitical need, which is the same as the relationship between any great power. But to expect playing nice will "correct" China and liberalize it is a false assumption because it already rocketed past that.


[13-Apr-20 02:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont see proof


[13-Apr-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
do you see proof of DRUMP getting shit done? Any shit except literal one?


[13-Apr-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492462-virginia-governor-signs-legislation-dropping-voting-restrictions

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Virginia governor signs legislation dropping voting restrictions
Virginia will no longer require voters to show a photo ID prior to casting a ballot and the state will join a handful of states across the nation in making Election Day a state holiday, Gov.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/northamralph_020219getty2_lead.jpg


[13-Apr-20 02:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yeah i do


[13-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the wall is finally getting built


[13-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Opponent#3498
he doesn't even make mistakes, does he. All he does lately is hold 'rallies' (these awful daily conferences full of 'it's a hoax'/'we got it covered'/'nobody could see it coming', as substitutes for normal rallies), promote the untested use of a drug that is produced by a company he owns a stake in, and... that's it.


[13-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we had great economy


[13-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Opponent#3498
did you feel great during it? Did any of the people you knew? Or it's just that the number was big?


[13-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
yeah i did


[13-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm honestly curious.


[13-Apr-20 02:50 PM] Opponent#3498
out of curiosity, what was your income source, from before the virus? I see much whining, would be curious to hear an opposite account.


[13-Apr-20 02:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
> we had great economy
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal 

We had an over-valued economy and now after all this it'll snap back to real value. Especially with everyone being run on debts owed to one another and nothing really being done.


[13-Apr-20 02:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
stuff did get done


[13-Apr-20 02:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i only seeing college students being stupid at protest and physically hurting people


[13-Apr-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
what


[13-Apr-20 02:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
X being done isn't the economy, since X would still be being done if there wasn't a good economy. It would just be a different X.


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
But I get it, you're an emotionally invested lib who sees the signifier and gets happy.


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
he's not a lib though


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't feel like much of a lib.


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
You will be brought to The Wall to face trial for your maleficence.


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of a shame you didn't answer my question though. That could help you case.


[13-Apr-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
also, what happened to your politics mute?


[13-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
right now


[13-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
I'm pretty sure the last time he came trolling by, he basically agreed with fascist ideology


[13-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
eww


[13-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
people dont want that


[13-Apr-20 02:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
even then


[13-Apr-20 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
yes, you didn't say it outright, but the policies you advocated for boiled down to near fascism


[13-Apr-20 02:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
how


[13-Apr-20 02:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
we just want to go back to the 1980s to 90s


[13-Apr-20 02:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao, basically a hyper lib.


[13-Apr-20 02:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fam, you are already there.


[13-Apr-20 02:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to the world your 80's made.


[13-Apr-20 02:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now will you join in hitting the brakes on this train like a man, or die like a dog when thrown overboard into the frozen chasm.


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i did not grew up in the 1980s and 90s


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
So? It's the politics of folk like you that made this world the way it is.


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
And that was from the 1980's.


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i grew up in the late 90s and 2000s


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
I get it, you're probably 14 and don't have much perspective outside of feely shit.


[13-Apr-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
That shut the fuck up zoomer and remute politics.


[13-Apr-20 02:59 PM] Crow#5457
isn't a hyperlib just a conservative


[13-Apr-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Your cultural nostalgia is not a political stance.


[13-Apr-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a pure aesthetic, and captured by fascists.


[13-Apr-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Wittingly or not, by wanting to return to a period you never were in, you lib'd yourself into fascism.


[13-Apr-20 02:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Go worship the cult of action somewhere else.


[13-Apr-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that when people say "make america great", they mean before the civil rights act of 1964


[13-Apr-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/discourse/1963-the-last-year-america-was-great-8a877b9e5724

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[13-Apr-20 03:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
your thinking i want war or shit? like what?


[13-Apr-20 03:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 03:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i just want shit to be easy


[13-Apr-20 03:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and 1963


[13-Apr-20 03:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
Doesn't matter, you clearly worship things for happening and just because they are happening, and a return to an idealized past that never was. Once more: one that has been thoroughly co-opted by fascism today. Your politics is entirely aesthetic, which if the first step towards political fascism: politics as aesthetic.


[13-Apr-20 03:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no body wants that


[13-Apr-20 03:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i just want stuff that can help the economy


[13-Apr-20 03:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course people do, the West suffers from a big daddy OwO cult problem of Freudian proportions


[13-Apr-20 03:03 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and get me a education


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a good one


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then join a union kid


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
And get militant


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
And stop being such a chum


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then become lost in the waves of time.


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```big daddy OwO cult problem```


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because your liberal laziness will lead to your annihilation


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll remember this :D


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
wtf


[13-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to catch up on Le Anti-Oedipus


[13-Apr-20 03:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Opponent


[13-Apr-20 03:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57RhO4ByhcA

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[13-Apr-20 03:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you guys are crazy


[13-Apr-20 03:05 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im not gonna lie


[13-Apr-20 03:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but know what


[13-Apr-20 03:07 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i bet people want more just to abuse the damn system


[13-Apr-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/492458-cdc-director-expects-community-by-community-county-by-county-reopening\

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CDC director expects 'community by community, county by county' reo...
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[13-Apr-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The reopening of the U.S. economy after mass shutdowns in response to the coronavirus pandemic will have to happen at different times across the country based on conditions in each community, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield said Monday. 
> 
> “There’s no doubt that we have to reopen correctly,” Redfield said on NBC's “Today" show when asked about a potential second wave of the outbreak. 
> 
> “It’s going to be a step-by-step, gradual process. It’s got to be data driven, and as I said I think it will be community by community, county by county,” he added.


[13-Apr-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now, trump wants the opposite of the above, he wants to "get shit done" by opening everything all at once at the start of may with no medical tests, or preparation so that businesses have expendable employees again to throw to the pandemic wolf as it goes. This in turn will collapse the economy worse down the line as everyone get;s sick all over again and companies are once again forced to shut down, probably with worse consequences.


[13-Apr-20 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[13-Apr-20 03:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
America 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYM5ipMSRm0

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[13-Apr-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-federal-aid-small-businesses-who-benefits-stimulus-trump-2020-4

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[13-Apr-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Apr-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-tried-to-defund-cdc-infectious-disease-program-2020-4

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[13-Apr-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
turtle dont care


[13-Apr-20 05:28 PM] byte[]#2610
turtle got your vote, now he's stealing your livelihood


[13-Apr-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[13-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
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[13-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
hrmm
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[13-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think people are easily brainwashed


[13-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
by cnn msm


[13-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
cbs


[13-Apr-20 05:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
heck even fox


[13-Apr-20 05:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and why is this all doom and gloom


[13-Apr-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're int he middle of a pandemic and trump is on live stage yelling about how the economy is more important than human lives. we're watching direct live feeds of trump as he broadcasts thme out


[13-Apr-20 05:36 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think your getting your words mixed up


[13-Apr-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which words are those?


[13-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
trump is focus on getting this over with and getting back to focus on the economy


[13-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but he is doing everything he can


[13-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you know who you can blame for this


[13-Apr-20 05:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you can blame china


[13-Apr-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is doing everything he can to withhold medical equipment from states who won't beg for it, while diregarding all information brought to him


[13-Apr-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
china is only part of the issue in this


[13-Apr-20 05:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 05:38 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
china knew about this


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true that if china had gotten word out sooner we might have been better prepped for this, but trump knew about this pandemic 3 months ahead of time and did nothing but golf


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
nobody knew becuase everything right now about the media is all bs


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has even said so in his pandemic addresses


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which might i remind you are live


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
nobody cares about


[13-Apr-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and unedited


[13-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Blaming China for how the virus was handled in the US is like blaming Africa for AIDS or the US for the Spanish Flu


[13-Apr-20 05:40 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well it is


[13-Apr-20 05:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its china's fault


[13-Apr-20 05:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and you know what


[13-Apr-20 05:41 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you can blame obama for this shit


[13-Apr-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can blame literally anyone except Trump apparently


[13-Apr-20 05:41 PM] ononim#8141
Wow of to the deep right away huh


[13-Apr-20 05:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and if you want Biden as a president


[13-Apr-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama actually left a sizable pandemic response team  for trump's arsenal to deal with this exact shit, but because it had obama;s name on it, trump disbanded it in 2018


[13-Apr-20 05:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you guys are nuts


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne tried to cut funding to the cdc


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
obama did nothing


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama did everything in his power


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
ok


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Obama left office over 3 years ago dude


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but obama isnt president anymore


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
well tell me what he did


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
1 he made the education system stupid


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
He did told you what Obama did


[13-Apr-20 05:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's been in power since, this isn't his first month of "oh what a surprise!"


[13-Apr-20 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's had 3 years to fix all the evil nasty things Obama did


[13-Apr-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i literally jsut told you he left behind a pandemic control team to deal with virus outbreAKS LIke this one after the ebola panic


[13-Apr-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump disbanded it


[13-Apr-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 years ago


[13-Apr-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump then went on to cut or attempt to cut national funding to severla very large medical programs that would have also helped in this outbreak


[13-Apr-20 05:45 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
Obama was useless with the southern boarder


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
blatant whataboutism


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the southern border is unimportant


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What does that have to do with this


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has nothing to do with covid-19


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you just going off a script?


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im saying obama is useless


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and was a puppet


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Obama left office over 3 years ago


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop whining about him


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who is president now?


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
trump


[13-Apr-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
name our current president


[13-Apr-20 05:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and im voting republican


[13-Apr-20 05:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and im voting it in the house


[13-Apr-20 05:47 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase i am tired of children think their hot shit and their not


[13-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if you want a socialist country


[13-Apr-20 05:48 PM] ononim#8141
🆗


[13-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
people can leave


[13-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and they dont why


[13-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase they want to use you


[13-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-coronavirus-trump-policies-could-saved-lives-2020-4

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[13-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
fake news


[13-Apr-20 05:49 PM] ononim#8141
Because they want to live the place they grew up no?


[13-Apr-20 05:49 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
They said something I donn't like so it's fake news

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[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
uh English please?


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/postal-service-funding-crisis-could-harm-voting-by-mail-coronavirus-2020-4


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] ononim#8141
Mobile, sorry


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"people can leave"


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
orly


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i can look at a article


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like the people in Mexico can leave to the US?


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure you can


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or are different rules meant to apply to americans?


[13-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
there is a reason why we need strong boarders


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because you're afraid


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if you don't have strong boarders


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
you


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you knwo how much money and time it costs to emmigrate to and from the US?


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
are


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
not


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
country


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You really are going off a script


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no im not


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
Ok, for my own well being I will assume you're pretending


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
my problem with the boarder


[13-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've read all this shit in facebook posts of "what to say when joining a liberal group"


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] ononim#8141
And fishing for responses


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
is we dont want


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also for the love of god


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"IF you don;t liek it, you can leave"


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What is the main language in the US?


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
rape, murder or any fucking thing at all


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
their is none


[13-Apr-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
americans rape, murder and any fucking thing just as much as mexicans


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well at least you got that right


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
dont worry


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im prepared


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because your English is atrocious


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
Those two things happen even at remote isolated towns


[13-Apr-20 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
All over the world


[13-Apr-20 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
So I am idk what are you about


[13-Apr-20 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's weird how the most nationalistic people are those with the worst grammar


[13-Apr-20 05:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So, there're even American with worse grammar than me?


[13-Apr-20 05:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Nice to hear


[13-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
do you want to know why?


[13-Apr-20 05:57 PM] ononim#8141
Easier to fall for it blinfy if you don't have   little ideab about how the rest of the world works, tho mind it that's it easy with a degree to, hope he grows from it


[13-Apr-20 05:58 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the education system failed


[13-Apr-20 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly it did

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[13-Apr-20 05:59 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
becuase i was in a special needs class


[13-Apr-20 05:59 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i did not ask for that


[13-Apr-20 05:59 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but i got it anyway


[13-Apr-20 06:00 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the idea is my mindset has been stuck in fear


[13-Apr-20 06:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is a "special needs class"?


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_education

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Special education (also known as special-needs education, aided education, exceptional education, special ed. or SPED) is the practice of educating students in a way that addresses their individual differences and special needs. Ideally, this process involves the individually ...


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] Macarou#9574
Special needs classes are education classes meant for those who are either incapable of, or have extreme struggle in, a regular class structure.


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] ononim#8141
Ok that smells like trolling


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
im not joking


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was in special education as well


[13-Apr-20 06:01 PM] Macarou#9574
For people with such things as Autism Spectrum, for example.


[13-Apr-20 06:02 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
^


[13-Apr-20 06:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Autism...


[13-Apr-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was in it for adhd


[13-Apr-20 06:06 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i was in it for my autism


[13-Apr-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i will admit, the special education system is broken as shit


[13-Apr-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
```Ok, for my own well being I will assume you're pretending```


[13-Apr-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
if they are, they're pretty good. If they aren't, well :3


[13-Apr-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
either way, this is something fresh.


[13-Apr-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that tends to happen when certain politicians vote to strip funding for  public schools


[13-Apr-20 06:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Does special education cost money?


[13-Apr-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it costs the school money


[13-Apr-20 06:08 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and the schools dont understand it


[13-Apr-20 06:09 PM] Macarou#9574
It often costs prestige as well, those with special needs aren't viewed well in the US.


[13-Apr-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
or anywhere else in the world


[13-Apr-20 06:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
the truth is


[13-Apr-20 06:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if your special needs


[13-Apr-20 06:10 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
your screwed


[13-Apr-20 06:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't think  people we here know what "autism" is


[13-Apr-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is actually true, our healthcare system is broken and cant deal with special needs cases properly, the special needs people can;t afford to get themselves checked out and taken care of, and the education system isnt properly trained to deal with kmost cases, only a few types per school


[13-Apr-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why special needs students tend to get lumped instead of properly helped case by case


[13-Apr-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne you get to jobs and that's a whole can of worms


[13-Apr-20 06:13 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
and most of them live with their parents or a abusive group home


[13-Apr-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need massive healthcare and education reform to get things set right


[13-Apr-20 06:15 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i believe that 100 percent


[13-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but its also family members that can be a problem


[13-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
or the guardian


[13-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but


[13-Apr-20 06:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
it doesn't matter


[13-Apr-20 06:17 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont know what to think anymore


[13-Apr-20 06:21 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
its what the system is


[13-Apr-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
fight neoliberalism


[13-Apr-20 06:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I think the best course of action for you is to vote Christian conservatives like you intended to, those that would consider you as being punished by God and deserving to suffer. That way you can do your part in ensuring you'll carry the ever-increasing burden throughout your thankfully short life.


[13-Apr-20 06:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
that sounds dark


[13-Apr-20 06:28 PM] byte[]#2610
that's what you wanted, right?


[13-Apr-20 06:28 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i think what i want and what other people want are two diffrent things


[13-Apr-20 06:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[13-Apr-20 06:30 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
I'm a Christian


[13-Apr-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
Most Republicans are also Christian


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
Most Republicans also think God punished poor people and they deserve to die


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Christian"


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
oh god


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like fascism. The term evolves with time.


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
no


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] ononim#8141
>but its also family members that can be a problem


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] ononim#8141
Ok


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] ononim#8141
That's actually correct


[13-Apr-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Christ wanted humble piety, wanted to protect the poor and sick, abhorred the rich and greedy


[13-Apr-20 06:32 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
that idea been stuck in 500 ad


[13-Apr-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
@Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal are you aware that Jesus was a socialist


[13-Apr-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Or that the Bible has allusions to communism


[13-Apr-20 06:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanhwile modern republicans want nothing more than money, hate the poor and sick, are prideful even in their fake piety


[13-Apr-20 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
Second American Civil War but it is religious war between various christians


[13-Apr-20 06:33 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
why are you wanting a war


[13-Apr-20 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
30 years war 2.0: yankee edition


[13-Apr-20 06:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When a republican says they're humble and pious, they only do so to brag and obscure the fact they're greedy and full of hate


[13-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i feel like im in the wrong group


[13-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably correct.


[13-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
but


[13-Apr-20 06:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i dont want war


[13-Apr-20 06:35 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i just want to live life the way i wanted


[13-Apr-20 06:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you think Jesus would want a wall to keep poor people contained, then yes, you're in the wrong group


[13-Apr-20 06:37 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
i just wanted to make cartoons


[13-Apr-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm almost afraid to ask what the Emperor's pet wall has to do with your life aspirations.


[13-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
a house


[13-Apr-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
and how does having a wall help you get a house


[13-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
if i vote democrat i get kicked out


[13-Apr-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
your vote is private


[13-Apr-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
you can simply lie about who you voted for


[13-Apr-20 06:43 PM] Framerate-Reel The Reel Deal#0152
not in my parents house


[13-Apr-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
then maybe it'd be better not to vote at all


[13-Apr-20 06:44 PM] Opponent#3498
^


[13-Apr-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
if you can be coerced into voting a certain way under threat of losing your livelihood


[13-Apr-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
then it's not really a valid vote, is it?


[13-Apr-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
(l: under duress)


[13-Apr-20 06:45 PM] ononim#8141
Ok that's horrible


[13-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And people think my ideals re family are radical...


[13-Apr-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
if I hypothetically had crotchspawn, I would be very disappointed if he/she voted for a fascist, but it would be ridiculous to then use that to deny them their livelihood


[13-Apr-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Apr-20 07:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Apr-20 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492503-trump-claims-he-not-governors-has-authority-on-opening-state

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Trump claims he, not governors, has authority on opening state econ...
President Trump on Monday claimed that he, not state governors, has the ultimate authority to loosen restrictions on states as the coronavirus outbreak eases, an assertion disputed by legal experts.
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[13-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/492511-cuomo-says-worst-is-over-as-ny-deaths-cross-10000

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Cuomo says 'worst is over' as NY deaths cross 10,000
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[13-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would you say that?


[13-Apr-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That is just tempting worse stuff to happen


[13-Apr-20 07:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Eh... Seems like the increasing of cases did slowed down these days


[13-Apr-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it slowed downn because we;re in a lockdown state right now, president puffed cheese meanwhile wants to basically undo all of it by forcing the economy open and exposing thousands of people to new cases


[13-Apr-20 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s looking increasingly harder to stop him from doing so


[13-Apr-20 07:09 PM] Veers#6437
@AaronMk thx for the welcome


[13-Apr-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html

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Call for investigation into ‘possible misuse of funds’ by senior officials on party’s right wing
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[13-Apr-20 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1249728197790298112

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NEW: Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner set to commission "urgent independent investigation" into leaked Labour antisemitism report: https://t.co/rVgT1mDz9N
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[13-Apr-20 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Labour Party seems to be tearing itself apart as of now


[13-Apr-20 07:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
> it slowed downn because we;re in a lockdown state right now, president puffed cheese meanwhile wants to basically undo all of it by forcing the economy open and exposing thousands of people to new cases
@prism stryder(intexda) 

Ye, and getting out now would be a second wave. Though that's also what generally happens. The Spanish Flu had a second wave the year after the initial phase, so there may be with COVID.


[13-Apr-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That article on Labour is one hell of a read


[13-Apr-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zO5PiR9s/200329-Labour-Report-Final.pdf


[13-Apr-20 07:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 mass labour purge and it rises from the ashes a disciplined actually Communist party and then manages to sweep the next round of elections under firm leadership


[13-Apr-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/economy/492528-white-house-trade-adviser-criticizes-tv-health-experts-warns-of-mortal

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White House trade adviser Peter Navarro criticized television health experts encouraging the government to remain closed, saying the remarks were disappointing and ignored the "mortal dangers" to closing the economy
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[13-Apr-20 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"mortal dangers"


[13-Apr-20 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[13-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/492537-house-gop-lawmakers-urge-senate-to-confirm-vought

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House GOP lawmakers urge Senate to confirm Vought
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[13-Apr-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492540-sanders-endorses-biden-for-president

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Sanders endorses Biden for president
Ex-Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) endorsed former rival Joe Biden during a virtual event on Monday.
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[13-Apr-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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White House denies Trump is firing Fauci after he shared tweet with...
The White House on Monday shot down speculation that President Trump may move to fire Dr.
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[13-Apr-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the white house denies a lot of things


[13-Apr-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
today: White House denies Trump is firing Fauci


[13-Apr-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
next week: FAUCI OUT AT WHITE HOUSE


[13-Apr-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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holy shit. douglas murray is a nazi, and top alt-centrist labour party bureaucrats are huge fans of him and spread his nazi filth internally, as they were masquerading as anti-racists by smearing corbyn and the left as anti-semites. the level of depravity is unimaginable
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[13-Apr-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that the purpose of the Labour Party is not to harness left-wing movements, but absorb and contain them


[13-Apr-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they really were left-wing they'd be defending the abolition of the monarchy


[13-Apr-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't even do that


[13-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the big problem with FPTP


[13-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even in a parliamentary system, it's basically just two parties.


[13-Apr-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking ^


[13-Apr-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, I can see it now.


[13-Apr-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US we'd just have like three conservative parties that always get a coalition and two or three liberal ones that never do


[13-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
We'd hav the GOP, the Tea Party, the Alt Right, the Democratic party, the Green party, and the Liberal party.


[13-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
GOP coalitions with the other two and usually wins on that alone.


[13-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democratic could coalition with Liberal, refuses to coalition with Green.


[13-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/custody-coronavirus-er-doctor-trnd/index.html

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An ER doctor loses custody of daughter because of coronavirus fears
An emergency room doctor in Miami, Florida, has temporarily lost custody of her 4-year-old daughter while she treats patients during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[13-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Florida.


[13-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk it to death.


[13-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/millennials-are-new-lost-generation/609832/

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Millennials Don’t Stand a Chance
They’re facing a second once-in-a-lifetime downturn at a crucial moment.
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[13-Apr-20 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a word for them now


[13-Apr-20 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Proletarians


[13-Apr-20 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USA's American Dream has always encouraged aspirations to a petit bourgeois, small business owner lifestyle as a final accomplishment


[13-Apr-20 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that model is not sustainable in the long term


[13-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
No tears for landlords. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-developer-friend-stanley-chera-dies-of-coronavirus/

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Trump's developer friend Stanley Chera dies of coronavirus
Mr. Trump told reporters during a recent briefing from the White House coronavirus task force that he had a friend who was admitted to the hospital after becoming infected with the coronavirus.
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[13-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1249781192049586176

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https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1249781192049586176
California, Oregon and Washington have made a "Western States Pact" in which they will work together on joint efforts to reopen the economy on the West Coast.

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[13-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"We're not planning on making the NCR at all, no sir"


[13-Apr-20 10:08 PM] ononim#8141
based


[13-Apr-20 10:08 PM] ononim#8141
and american balkanization pilled


[13-Apr-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet trump will dennounce the plan and go on a tirade agaisnt it


[13-Apr-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope more states attempt to join the plan


[13-Apr-20 10:30 PM] illumnious#7938
:TRN: https://twitter.com/margaretcho/status/1243675881886715904?s=21

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Oh wow
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[13-Apr-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
cursed image


[13-Apr-20 10:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wrong, no one has ponified Joe Exotic or Carole Baskin yet


[13-Apr-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/492567-stocks-close-down-after-tumultuous-session

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Stocks close down after tumultuous session
The stock market closed down Monday after a tumultuous session that saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average fall as much as 2.5 percent.
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[13-Apr-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/492566-house-delays-expected-return-until-may-amid-coronavirus-pandemic

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House delays expected return until May amid coronavirus pandemic
The House is not expected to convene until at least May 4, delaying a return originally planned for next week as stay-at-home orders remain in place across the nation.
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[13-Apr-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Apr-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They did it guys, they saved america...s short term economy


[13-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492564-sanders-campaign-spokeswoman-i-dont-endorse-joe-biden

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Sanders campaign spokeswoman: 'I don't endorse Joe Biden'
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[13-Apr-20 11:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Apr-20 11:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4-rNPDlaY

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David Pakman Show
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LIVE: Trump Coronavirus White House Press Briefing
Support the stream: Pledge on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow
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[13-Apr-20 11:41 PM] illumnious#7938
this evening's stonks

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[13-Apr-20 11:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao classic MSNBC


[13-Apr-20 11:51 PM] illumnious#7938
*the virus is working*


[13-Apr-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They start talking about the allegations against Biden just before the virus update from Trump, knowing it'd be interrupted just as it gets juicy

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[13-Apr-20 11:52 PM] illumnious#7938
you're watching under C-span?


[13-Apr-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I switch between streams


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
ah


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm watching under David Pakman


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The people comparing Reade to Ford aren't really arguing in good faith IMO


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
but he used C-SPAN


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ford talked with her husband and therapist about Kavanaugh _years_ before he was a nominee


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man why is American media acting with so much hubris lately


[13-Apr-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
> The USA's American Dream has always encouraged aspirations to a petit bourgeois, small business owner lifestyle as a final accomplishment
> But that model is not sustainable in the long term
Does that include helping your family's business, or nah start over from scratch and make your own business?


[13-Apr-20 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like they believe they have absolute control over their viewer's thought outcome


[13-Apr-20 11:54 PM] jlun2#8758
for certain viewers, yes.


[13-Apr-20 11:54 PM] illumnious#7938
some bullshit question


[13-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they used to, from the start until the 2010s


[13-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't get over not having it anymore


[13-Apr-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway...


[13-Apr-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In slightly better news


[13-Apr-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/emily_hoeven/status/1249777564563804160

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BREAKING: @GavinNewsom says California, Oregon and Washington have developed a framework for reopening from the coronavirus pandemic, not just as individual states, but as a region -- California's specific plan will be released tomorrow.
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[13-Apr-20 11:56 PM] illumnious#7938
hm


[14-Apr-20 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god, Trump instantly went off the rails


[14-Apr-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
His approval numbers fell.


[14-Apr-20 12:04 AM] illumnious#7938
come to chinatown


[14-Apr-20 12:04 AM] illumnious#7938
what


[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] illumnious#7938
is this


[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know how Trump gets when he gets bad news.


[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] illumnious#7938
the fucking press conference


[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He likely heard his approval numbers fell.


[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[14-Apr-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look at that drop after the recent spike


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
A month of gains lost in a week.


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
These to him are just rallies.


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
what even is this


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rallies with Americans as a captive audience.


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm so sorry but what the bloody fucking hell is he talking about????????????????


[14-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is a fucking political rally


[14-Apr-20 12:08 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck


[14-Apr-20 12:11 AM] illumnious#7938
this is fucking confusing as shit


[14-Apr-20 12:15 AM] illumnious#7938
WAAAAAAAAY HEAD OF SCHEDULED??????????????????


[14-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/WerewolfMoms/status/1249808152075386880

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sylveons, etc (@WerewolfMoms)
https://twitter.com/WerewolfMoms/status/1249808152075386880
i sincerely wish to cease exist
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[14-Apr-20 12:16 AM] illumnious#7938
okay, does anyone really following up the briefing?


[14-Apr-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're good standup comedy


[14-Apr-20 12:23 AM] illumnious#7938
he just showing a piece of paper


[14-Apr-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's really spinning out


[14-Apr-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow, this is amazing


[14-Apr-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i jsut started watching and i;m already confused


[14-Apr-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole thing up to now has been bonkers


[14-Apr-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good more ventilators to hoard


[14-Apr-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need to watch the first part later


[14-Apr-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIsXoNLJZo0

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How to Read Walter Benjamin
On his 127th birthday, I discuss the brief history and importance of Walter Benjamin. #Aesthetics #Philosophy #Marxism

Illuminations, plus "Walter Benjamin" by Hannah Arendt: https://esquerdadireitaesquerda.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/benjamin-illuminations.pdf
"The Work of A...
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[14-Apr-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:roseconfused:


[14-Apr-20 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
le present is the wreckage of the past time


[14-Apr-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god he;s making up statistics again


[14-Apr-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so far this has just sounded liek a remix of previous breifings


[14-Apr-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You need to watch the first half, it was literally a political rally


[14-Apr-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guess i'll wait for an upload, i cant rewind far enough


[14-Apr-20 12:42 AM] illumnious#7938
like I said, I'm watching David Pakman's own on YouTube


[14-Apr-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Accurate

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[14-Apr-20 12:50 AM] illumnious#7938
and that leads on today's trend

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[14-Apr-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thank you abc news for the forever cast


[14-Apr-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[14-Apr-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fauci is talking now


[14-Apr-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
well he's pissed


[14-Apr-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm at the start of the breifing i think before the meltdown


[14-Apr-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is trump melting down again?


[14-Apr-20 01:01 AM] illumnious#7938
oh yeah


[14-Apr-20 01:02 AM] illumnious#7938
but only when a bunch of people asking questions


[14-Apr-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok trump jsut took the stage again


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s talking statristics and a travel ban


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
meanwhile


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938

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[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wat


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
yeah


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
that


[14-Apr-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
someone actually said that


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to trump?


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/the-authority-is-total-trump-says-he-can-force-governors-to-reopen-the-country/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘The authority is total’: Trump says he can force governors to reop...
At President Donald Trump’s latest White House coronavirus task force briefing, reporters pressed him on his claims that he can reopen the economy, pointing out that the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution clearly leaves the matter to state governments. Trump’s response was to...
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[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“The authority of the president of the United States is total.”


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] illumnious#7938
no I mean on the chat


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So do it then.


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] illumnious#7938
while they was mentioned something about *small casino*


[14-Apr-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[14-Apr-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who the crap is steve?


[14-Apr-20 01:06 AM] illumnious#7938
heck if I know


[14-Apr-20 01:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Astrians nonsense


[14-Apr-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just brutalized!


[14-Apr-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
he's not happy with WTO


[14-Apr-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
and WHO


[14-Apr-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
> “The authority of the president of the United States is total.”


[14-Apr-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
welcome to the United Monarchy of America


[14-Apr-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
the president has declared himself king


[14-Apr-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
yeah, King of ass


[14-Apr-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck enforcing that


[14-Apr-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
meltdown


[14-Apr-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it hinkt he first meltdown is coming for me now


[14-Apr-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
querstions just began


[14-Apr-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s now a political ad...


[14-Apr-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and here we go


[14-Apr-20 01:14 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/enough-trump-shouts-down-reporter-who-demands-he-back-up-claim-he-has-total-authority-over-governors/?utm_source=push_notifications

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President Donald Trump claimed at Monday’s coronavirus press briefing that he has “total” authority over governors who have issued shelter-in-place orders and can force them to reinstate nonessential business activity when he deems it appropriate. His claim was promptly challe...
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[14-Apr-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bleh, i'll just wait for the clips


[14-Apr-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
can this gets anymore better than this?

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[14-Apr-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he doesn't take responsibility but the authority of the president is total


[14-Apr-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
got it


[14-Apr-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
...did he use a definite article with CNN?


[14-Apr-20 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not going to give him shit for saying "The CNN"


[14-Apr-20 01:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going to be pissed off that he just officially declared himself king


[14-Apr-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president shouldn't have this much leeway talking about the media


[14-Apr-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good luck enforcing your kingdom your highass


[14-Apr-20 01:37 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/04/12/siberia-prison-uprising/

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[14-Apr-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He doesn't need luck


[14-Apr-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He just needs the SCOTUS to bend the knee


[14-Apr-20 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So far there are enough doing that to tip the balance in his favor


[14-Apr-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so here;s a question, what happens if every state stops recognizing scotus as an authority?


[14-Apr-20 01:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Secession's considered treason


[14-Apr-20 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I know those two words are gonna get bandied about with weasel-words like "similar to" or "almost" in reference to what the west coast is doing


[14-Apr-20 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on OANN and what bits of Fox are still sympathetic to Trump


[14-Apr-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if the president's authority is absolute


[14-Apr-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President Biden could just have the entire conservative wing of SCOTUS arrested for treason because he says so


[14-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dumb move, but precedent I guess


[14-Apr-20 01:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking i thought that only applies when Republicans are in charge


[14-Apr-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans never think of double edged swords


[14-Apr-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they always think in terms of finality, such as trump in this case thinking hels declARED IT SO ONly he gets to be king


[14-Apr-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
republicans set up senate rules to keep democrats from winning one season, and the next democrats now control that rule


[14-Apr-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
then they bitch about it and Democrats compromise


[14-Apr-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, trump also jsut extended this shit outside of congress


[14-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the president has total authority now, thne that extends to every president from here on out


[14-Apr-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's likely about to ask scotus to make it so the president overrides the constitution


[14-Apr-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i may be giving him too much credit there


[14-Apr-20 02:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/terriblemaps/status/1164318581980651520?s=21

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[14-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ironic-declassified-footnotes-show-steele-dossier-likely-compromised-by-russian-intelligence

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'Ironic': Declassified footnotes show Steele dossier likely comprom...
Declassified footnotes from the Justice Department watchdog report on the FBI's Russia investigation revealed new details indicating British ex-spy Christoper Steele’s dossier was likely compromised by disinformation efforts carried out by Russian intelligence.
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[14-Apr-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not finding this on any non conservative news sites


[14-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well all that means is they aren't running the story so far.


[14-Apr-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s been 4 days, if thye arent runnign the story yet, chances are it doesnt factually check out


[14-Apr-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fbi-suspected-steele-dossier-claims-121035762.html i found a yahoo source

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FBI Suspected Steele Dossier Claims Were Russian Disinformation
Four footnotes in the Inspector General report on the FBI's Russia investigation, which were partially declassified on Friday, indicate that the FBI suspected that portions of the Steele dossier contained Russian disinformation as early as 2017.FBI officials had also expressed...
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[14-Apr-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[14-Apr-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492622-trump-says-jared-and-ivanka-wont-be-part-of-new-economic-coronavirus

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Trump says Jared and Ivanka won't be part of new economic coronavir...
President Trump told reporters Monday that senior advisers Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump would not be part of the White House council he is convening to guide the reopening of the U.S. economy.
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[14-Apr-20 02:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/wisconsin-primary-supreme-court-race-live-results-updates-vote-counts-2020-4?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Joe Biden won Wisconsin's presidential primary, and a liberal state...
Judge Jill Karofsky's win over Wisconsin Supreme Court Judge Dan Kelly shifts the balance of the court from a 5-2 to a 4-3 conservative majority.
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[14-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice about the judge at least, even if still a minority


[14-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Electing judges


[14-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
bruh


[14-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how Trump's video about "the media minimized the risk from the start" was all FOX NEWS clips


[14-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, because he only likes OANN now


[14-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Biden only credits stories from Mother Jones or The Young Turks


[14-Apr-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder why FOX still cheerleads for him so much still


[14-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
```if the president has total authority now, thne that extends to every president from here on out```


[14-Apr-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because regardless of favorites, fox is still gettign a sweet ass cut of that political power pie


[14-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
if the president has total authority now, there might not be any other president every time soon.


[14-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
because there can be no elections in times of war, and we're clearly at war with those damn chinese, and those damn deep state conspirators, and those damn fake news agencies, and those damn traitor liberals.


[14-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
outside of a bullet to the face, there won't be much to stop him if he does go all out on this.


[14-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then i guess it;s time to use that 2nd ammendment right


[14-Apr-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, Trump could get coronavirus


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not that likely he'd survive it


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Bojo did but he survived


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and he's like Trump lite


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Bojo was in better health than Trump


[14-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
ironically, probably because of the NHS


[14-Apr-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump has 20 years on Johnson


[14-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump might not make it through a standard flu tbh


[14-Apr-20 03:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump gets COVID but because he's insane he keeps doing rallies


[14-Apr-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better question is: if he got covid, would anyone really know?


[14-Apr-20 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 he gets it, does a rally, and dies on stage.


[14-Apr-20 03:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Have anyone seen the news report of fire near Chernobyl?


[14-Apr-20 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
And all his followers Messiah carry him off the stage with the whole laying of hands


[14-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A bit about it, yes


[14-Apr-20 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Before they try to rip him to shreds in their fervor like when the first Ayatollah died


[14-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then they start ripping eachother to shreds to collect his limb bits for their trophy room


[14-Apr-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Please don't insult Mr. Satan like that


[14-Apr-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He may be an idiot but he has a heart of gold, the US healthcare system is naught but leeches and ghouls


[14-Apr-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true :depressed:


[14-Apr-20 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Realistically, if the entire Republican party vanished overnight, this country would have more than enough conservatives


[14-Apr-20 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But the balance would be more even


[14-Apr-20 03:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony won't people just go all RAPTURE IS REAAL AHHHHHHHHH


[14-Apr-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
then be even more conservative?


[14-Apr-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well the already religious conservatives would, i think everyone else would be too busy celebrating


[14-Apr-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
religious revival tho


[14-Apr-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unlike other things that would mean an instantaneous end to life as we know it, such as if we deleted the sun, or gravity, or electricity, a thanos snap is very survivable for those who remain


[14-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/sanders-will-continue-gathering-delegates-to-influence-dnc-platform-2020-4

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Sanders announced he was suspending his presidential campaign on Wednesday, but said that his role in influencing Democratic party is far from over.
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[14-Apr-20 03:44 AM] illumnious#7938
> Yeah, because he only likes OANN now
@Itsthinking I thought he likes both FOX and OAN


[14-Apr-20 03:44 AM] illumnious#7938
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJKak2RUxHI

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Trump Loses It After NYT Admits Reality
Donald Trump loses it after The New York Times admits reality, exposing all Trump's pandemic secrets & misteps. John Iadarola and Francesca Fiorentini break it down on The Damage Report. Follow The Damage Report on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheDamageReportTYT/

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[14-Apr-20 03:44 AM] illumnious#7938
shit's crazy


[14-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao, just checked FOX for a second


[14-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it was Hannity boasting that Trump "beat the living daylights" out of the media in the press brief earlier


[14-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shows the propaganda video... but cut to start just after all the FOX NEWS clips


[14-Apr-20 03:54 AM] illumnious#7938
*misleading* headlines https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1249852756900188161

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TRUMP DID NOT HAVE A MELTDOWN 

President @realDonaldTrump made CNN have a meltdown when he exposed the lying Lamestream media at the #PressBriefing 

LOOK AT THE CNN HEADLINES 

False #TrumpMeltdown is trending let’s change that to #CNNMeltdown

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[14-Apr-20 03:54 AM] illumnious#7938
bruh fuck you


[14-Apr-20 03:56 AM] illumnious#7938
#CNNmeltdown trend is done by a trumpist


[14-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is just classic whataboutism.


[14-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not whataboutism, it's simple misinformation aimed at the ignorant. Build an alternate reality and maintain it, that sort of thing


[14-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
that seems to be the primary focus of slowly shrinking conservative infospace


[14-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the whataboutism is that they're saying WHAT ABOUT CNN? in response to "Trump fukked up"


[14-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is if CNN headlines aren't 100% perfect, then anything they talk about Trump can't be blamed for.


[14-Apr-20 05:23 AM] Crow#5457
someone in another server said that the federal government could use the 14th amendment to force states to re-open


[14-Apr-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
...*how*?


[14-Apr-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
...by deciding that lokkdowns are slavery?


[14-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the 13th.


[14-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
> nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law


[14-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly


[14-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/brendankoerner/status/1249832941477416960

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So it begins.
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[14-Apr-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will be interesting to see what the federal government does to try to stop regions from declaring independence


[14-Apr-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like picture this: 2040. California has been irrelevant in elections for decades despite having like 1/3 of Americans live there


[14-Apr-20 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pick your Commonwealth


[14-Apr-20 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think they even really *want* to be independent. They just want to do the right thing and the president is doing the opposite of that


[14-Apr-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ok California, what if we let you vote for the entire region of the West?"


[14-Apr-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, Its, like


[14-Apr-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the 14th basically says, you can't go in and imprison people without a court order


[14-Apr-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the argument here.


[14-Apr-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That lokkdown is basically slavery/imprisonment.


[14-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go out and get coronavirus and die, then.


[14-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just do it.


[14-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, he says that the "deprive any person of life/liberty/property without due process of law" part lets the federal government force states to reopen everything


[14-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It reminds me of people who want to say the n word so badly


[14-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say it if you want to say it so badly.


[14-Apr-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
and that right to assemble applies to people going to businesses as well


[14-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bake your own "assemble at my business" cake.


[14-Apr-20 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey don't forget Barr requested that we suspend habeas corpus less than a month ago


[14-Apr-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he only did an about-face on that just the other day


[14-Apr-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorta kinda


[14-Apr-20 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What he *actually* said was "very careful to make sure that the draconian measures that are being adopted are fully justified" which...I don't think I need to translate at all


[14-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just send in the National Guard to force reopening or shut up.


[14-Apr-20 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just coup the government and revoke the constitution 4Head


[14-Apr-20 05:37 AM] Swift Blaze#0969
Sounds like it’s high time for another revolution my comrades.


[14-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/244999208728264704/699459536582606868/kve66rbt3or41.jpg

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[14-Apr-20 05:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look on the bright side tho


[14-Apr-20 05:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bernie's no longer on the side of malarkey


[14-Apr-20 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anti-malarkey gang


[14-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because someone said it

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[14-Apr-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, i fight MALARKEY
M- women
A- accusing
L- me
A- of
R- improper
K- sexual
E- behavior
Y-


[14-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also uh


[14-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548233497249054742/699415427763142697/Screenshot_20200413-202257_Chrome.jpg

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[14-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Almost 700k.


[14-Apr-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Go USA!


[14-Apr-20 05:44 AM] Swift Blaze#0969
I’m not surprised that Florida is 2nd place on the list.


[14-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/10/832076074/white-house-seeks-to-lower-farmworker-pay-to-help-agriculture-industry

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White House Seeks To Lower Farmworker Pay To Help Agriculture Industry
White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is working with Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue to see how wage rates for immigrant farmworkers can be reduced. Critics say doing so will hurt all workers.
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[14-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is trying to fight both pro-immigrant and anti-immigrant factions at the same time.


[14-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
By going after workers in general.


[14-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Midknight#9798
on the plus side... there's a buyer's market in floridian real estate looming in the future?


[14-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
under Governor Scott, Florida's environment has been polluted to shit


[14-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
leading to toxic algae blooms all over


[14-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a buyer's market when things are literally poisonous.


[14-Apr-20 08:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Animal Crossing is available on Taobao again...


[14-Apr-20 08:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They just banned them for two days... wtf


[14-Apr-20 09:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/492624-ukraine-wildfires-creep-closer-to-chernobyl

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Ukraine wildfires creep closer to Chernobyl
Wildfires in Ukraine reached an area less than a mile and a half from where some of the most dangerous waste from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster is stored, according to an environmental group and Monday media reports.
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[14-Apr-20 09:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well, how worse can it be?


[14-Apr-20 10:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492631-appeals-court-backs-ruling-allowing-abortion-in-oklahoma-during

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Appeals court backs ruling allowing abortion in Oklahoma during cor...
The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld a lower court’s ruling blocking an executive order signed by Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) last month that sought to temporarily ban abortion services in the state during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[14-Apr-20 10:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492627-florida-mayor-says-wwe-deemed-essential-business-during-coronavirus

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Florida mayor says WWE deemed 'essential business' during coronavir...
World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) has been deemed an “essential business” in Florida during the coronavirus pandemic, Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings (D) told reporters on Monday.
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[14-Apr-20 11:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QXrQDTDYo

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US president Donald Trump has claimed he has ‘total authority’ to supersede decisions made by state governors to ease social restrictions during the coronavirus pandemic. ‘When someone is president of the United States the authority is total', Trump said during a White House p...
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[14-Apr-20 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
that one's kinda jumping all over the place


[14-Apr-20 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNbjxTMbOm8

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Donald Trump insists he has total authority to order states to lift...
DONALD Trump insists he has total authority as President of the US to order states to lift their coronavirus lockdowns.

The president told reporters "the federal government has the absolute power" to do so during his daily COVID-19 press briefing Monday.

His comments come as...
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[14-Apr-20 11:38 AM] Crow#5457
"When somebody is the President of the United States, the authority is total. And that's the way it's gotta be."


[14-Apr-20 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit it's even worse if you don't clip off that last part


[14-Apr-20 11:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Apr-20 11:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now more than 1% people in New York is infected


[14-Apr-20 12:16 PM] Opponent#3498
are known to have been infected.


[14-Apr-20 12:16 PM] Opponent#3498
_huge_ difference.


[14-Apr-20 12:16 PM] Opponent#3498
it helps to remember, these numbers only reflect reality about testing availability.


[14-Apr-20 01:41 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The testing still not free?


[14-Apr-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone called me a confederate because i posted a news article about how trump doesnt actually have authority over states to force them open unless scotus orders it.

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[14-Apr-20 01:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@AlchemistLiang 
Here only available for free if one shows all symptoms. Otherwise it can be done at private lab for a fee. Medical insurance only covers costs if the result is positive.


[14-Apr-20 01:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[14-Apr-20 01:46 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Then how to find those Asymptomatic infections?


[14-Apr-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well right now the idea is that if the federal government ignores those cases and refuses to pass out tests, they can fudge the numbers and re-open states based on a false standard that doesnt take into account asymptomatic/symptomatic untested individuals


[14-Apr-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only time they give a fuck is if someone may have it int heir personal space


[14-Apr-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess the best idea right now is to try and hug a gop senator and the white house will force a test on you


[14-Apr-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/492640-senate-republican-coronavirus-response-has-hampered-hunter-biden

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Senate Republican: Coronavirus response has 'hampered' Hunter Biden...
Sen.
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[14-Apr-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
```Then how to find those Asymptomatic infections?```


[14-Apr-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[14-Apr-20 03:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My collage teacher listed 11 kinds of abnormal sexual psychologies for college students


[14-Apr-20 03:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Whiile I have 6 of them...


[14-Apr-20 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
do you happen to have a list? :D


[14-Apr-20 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
of the named 11


[14-Apr-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/esper-pompeo-west-point-class-1986-role-in-trump-administration-2020-4

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How the 'West Point mafia' wields power in and around the Trump Whi...
Mike Pompeo, Mark Esper, and other members of the West Point class of 1986 wield a lot of power in and around the Trump administration.
https://i.insider.com/5e94e02edcd88c20c713b027?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Apr-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
> Global growth will contract by 3 percent in 2020


[14-Apr-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks: RISE


[14-Apr-20 06:34 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang define abnormal. because in america, being overweight is "normal" given 2/3 of the population have it


[14-Apr-20 06:35 PM] jlun2#8758
which means being healthy is abnormal there


[14-Apr-20 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-fauci-reopening-economy-by-may-1-is-overly-optimistic-2020-4

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Dr. Fauci says re-opening the US economy by May 1 is 'overly optimi...
"I'll guarantee you, once you start pulling back there will be infections. It's how you deal with the infections that's going count," Fauci said.
https://i.insider.com/5e95e2e915ea4b5b4373c2ba?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Apr-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/banks-can-use-stimulus-check-pay-private-loans-fees-report-2020-4

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That $1,200 stimulus check? Your bank can reportedly use it to pay ...
Checks intended to provide economic relief could be seized by banks to pay off debts to private entities, according to a report.
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[14-Apr-20 06:57 PM] jlun2#8758
so is Fauci going to get fired?


[14-Apr-20 07:01 PM] byte[]#2610
probably


[14-Apr-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point i;m surprised trump hasnt started physically shoving people off the podium the minute they start contradicting him


[14-Apr-20 07:30 PM] Opponent#3498
give it time, as usual


[14-Apr-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point, he may even start doing that this week


[14-Apr-20 07:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'd never happen, but imagine if the secret service just tackled Trump away from the microphone during one of these things


[14-Apr-20 07:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then later claimed they perceived a "credible threat to the president's life" or something


[14-Apr-20 07:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
heck, if we're gonna go full hollywood, imagine if there were a *mole* in the secret service tasked with assasination


[14-Apr-20 07:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, not even to actually kill him, just to take a pot-shot to make it seem real when he gets whisked away


[14-Apr-20 07:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
mole? plant? I don't know


[14-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
nvm misread your first line.


[14-Apr-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-bailouts-hedge-funds-apply-government-money-funding-2020-4

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'It's a complete abomination': Hedge funds are applying for governm...
Congress recently earmarked $350 billion to help small businesses navigate the novel coronavirus pandemic and cover payroll, rent, and other cos...
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[14-Apr-20 08:45 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[14-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Data: The Borg are communists, sir.


[14-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Picard: WE HAVE TO STOP THEM.


[14-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Midknight#9798
so that's where the farm bill came from...


[14-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek: Financial Capital.


[14-Apr-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
> Billionaire Bill Ackman's Pershing Square turned $27 million into $2.6 billion by buying credit default swaps, insuring itself against asset defaults and offsetting losses in its equity portfolio. Pershing Square told Business Insider that it is not applying for assistance.
so...what are they going to do with all that money? I know people say "invest it again", but what to do with the disposable income?


[14-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Private jets.


[14-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But one thing you've gotta fukkin' understand here


[14-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Billionnaires do not sit with money in a bank.


[14-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't using something like your chekking account.


[14-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their disposable income IS INVESTED


[14-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The investments mean it grows continually


[14-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
even as they use it for all kinds of fancy shit.


[14-Apr-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their money grows and yours does not.


[14-Apr-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the *fundamental level of inequality* built into modern systems of capital and financing.


[14-Apr-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people owe interest to the bank on loans. Rich people are owed interest from the bank.


[14-Apr-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notice that this makes the bank a middleman to funnel money from the poor to the rich.


[14-Apr-20 08:57 PM] jlun2#8758
so they're like dragons that sit on wealth that keeps growing and do nothing with it but grow. ok


[14-Apr-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, they are like kings that hav wealth slowly trikkle in. The dragons are people who try to become independently wealthy outside the system. Notice that the kings hire knights to slay the dragons after the dragons steal the kings' daughters.


[14-Apr-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dragons are a metaphor for blakk people, basically.


[14-Apr-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> Dragons are a metaphor for blakk people, basically.
:oof:


[14-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't dragons burn villages to the ground and eat people?


[14-Apr-20 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
MLP dragons aren't the usual kind of dragon.


[14-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only because they fear Celestia turning them to dust, I guess


[14-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hardly canon because lolhaber but in the Journal there's a chapter where the Crystal Heart gets stolen by a dragon and it turns out the ponies actually stole it from him and he doesn't want to give it back because of that and then Celestia just yells really loud until he does


[14-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Equestrian Exceptionalism


[14-Apr-20 09:32 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
sex


[14-Apr-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
wrong channel


[14-Apr-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, right channel


[14-Apr-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There *is* a way to mix sex with politics


[14-Apr-20 09:35 PM] dirtymikelikesfeet#9871
it happens more often than you think


[14-Apr-20 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hillary and Trump should've fucked each other


[14-Apr-20 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That way, we wouldn't have had all the problems we have now


[14-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't want that mental image

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[14-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can have it back


[14-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the original VP system, but probably better for them working together.


[14-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
If Lincoln fukked his VP, maybe Reconstruction would've lasted longer.


[14-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brings a whole new meaning to Log Cabin Republicans.


[14-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
But anyways, I mean generic fantasy dragons


[14-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it.


[14-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically just non-king wealthy people that try to hook up with the king's daughter.


[14-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's entirely a thing about justifying hating them, they're seen as illegitimate, threatening not just to social rules but physically as well, and it's heroic to slay them even when they stay in their caves.


[14-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dragons aren't *specifically* blakk people, but they're basically stand-ins for other races.


[14-Apr-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Myths are stories we tell ourselves to justify social rules, and there are no real fire-breathing lizards around. The dragon myth is about glorifying preservation of the monarchy and stopping those who are different from marrying into or attaining wealth outside it.


[14-Apr-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[14-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh my fukking god...


[14-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shrek


[14-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shrek had Donkey marry the dragon and hav interracial babies.


[14-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
And had the dragon literally eat the monarch, of course.


[14-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
How perfect can you get for a story about tolerating differences?


[14-Apr-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/king-trump-cuomo-goes-on-offensive-after-trump-broadsides-governors-2020-4

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'He basically declared himself King Trump': Cuomo warns of 'constit...
Cuomo has remained diplomatic in his dealings with Trump, but Tuesday morning saw a change in tone.
https://i.insider.com/5e95bfbf0b3c9b4d3b31bd62?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSx704KK_Ik

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60 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSx704KK_Ik
White House adviser to 60 Minutes: Show me your pandemic story
60 Minutes opens the archive on previous stories on U.S. pandemic preparedness after being challenged by White House trade adviser Peter Navarro. See this week's full report on the need for PPE in hospitals, here: https://cbsn.ws/34AqLSK

Subscribe to the "60 Minutes" Channel ...
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[14-Apr-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie Dragoned porn :nut:


[14-Apr-20 10:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) democrats coming out in suport of "states' rights"?


[14-Apr-20 10:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are pigs flying already?


[14-Apr-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
"states rights" doesn't exist


[14-Apr-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a conservative meme


[14-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
```Dragons are a metaphor for blakk people, basically.```


[14-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
is there anything that ISN'T a metaphor for black people for you?


[14-Apr-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
I just want Nebbie to draw dragon domination pics now


[14-Apr-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
seriously, you can only push this thing so far before it transcends worrying and becomes laughable.


[14-Apr-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason so many things are really about race is that views of race are directly tied to views of monarchy.


[14-Apr-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you think our society doesn't hav pro-monarchy messages around every fukking corner, you're blind.


[14-Apr-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
for those who think monarchy will solve problems, do monarchs ever cared about their people?


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
the majority of monarchies throughout history existed without any vast racial differences between their subjects. If anything, religion would sometimes tied to monarchs since it was used to justify their power (much like it's used now, 'in God we trust', or so I hear)


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reason it's tied to race.


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Monarchy = whites only in power


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
sigh


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Non-whites kept out of kingdom.


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
Americans make the best anti-american propaganda


[14-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you're fixated on this, much like your gun control thing


[14-Apr-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
I concede, it's pointless.


[14-Apr-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's essentially multi-century nostalgia.


[14-Apr-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
With keeping the bloodlines pure etc.


[14-Apr-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I boil down things to basically "People need to know bad things are bad and people are bad if they think the bad things are good."


[14-Apr-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you truly accept that bloodlines don't matter, all the racial walls fall apart.


[14-Apr-20 10:41 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcwUXt2v0FI

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[14-Apr-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The modern political stances of the right are built on "What's bad isn't actually bad."


[14-Apr-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"And you're the bad one for thinking it is"


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
the moment you truly accept bloodlines don't matter you accept nations don't matter


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
or any other group identity


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
cause all of it, _all of it_ is based on the same nothing


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
and then you become the universal enemy


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
the traitor


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
meaning, it's straight up suicide to do so.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should all be traitors then.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tear it all down.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Opponent#3498
well that's not how it works, unfortunately.


[14-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then change it.


[14-Apr-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not having this discussion again.


[14-Apr-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
'how?' 'go out and do shit' etc


[14-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
make everyone who's anyone hate you for no gains but an idea


[14-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
works fine on the internet. Not so much in meatspace.


[14-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate Mondays.


[14-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys, someone has an idea on improving society. We better all get mad, or tell him we'll all get mad, or he might tell other people about it.


[14-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not an improvement.


[14-Apr-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so are you going to try it irl


[14-Apr-20 10:47 PM] jlun2#8758
pls post result


[14-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try what?


[14-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately, rejecting _any kind_ of group identity isn't an improvement.


[14-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
then you'll simply stand alone.


[14-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
which is fun, but a devil of a time trying to get anything done.


[14-Apr-20 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
there's more, too


[14-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
the current strategy of neoliberalism leads to a similar outcome


[14-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
force any potential opponent to stand alone against The System


[14-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
union busting etc, all that fun stuff


[14-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
while I'm not a great fan of collective over individual idea, standing together has it's place and time (so long as you don't lose yourself in the crowd)


[14-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i don't know nebbie don't you think maybe most myths had dragons in them was because kings and kingdoms was the most common form of goverment at the time those stories were written?
Also there was many kings and kingdoms that weren't white.


[14-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
good gravy nebbie


[14-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if you don't like white people just go ahead and say so instead of beating around the bush.


[14-Apr-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of those stories were written centuries later when the kingdoms were basically nothing but a memory.


[14-Apr-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arthurian legend as we know it today is very different from what they had in medieval times.


[14-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a highly romanticized version made with clear ideological designs.


[14-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, yes there were non-white monarchies, but they didn't hav the design with gold crowns and knights in armor with kite shields and all that.


[14-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The cliches are very much geared around European monarchy.


[14-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
You never see the extreme reverence for monarchy in stuff about non-white kingdoms.


[14-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you are aware that dragons was not exclusive to European myths.


[14-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is pretty understandable given that, as recently as the 80s


[14-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
there were archeologists out there active in the field who didn't believe that non-whites could've made stone statues etc.


[14-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie. Japan highly revered their monarchy.


[14-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
china highly revered their's too.


[14-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And how much of that do you see in modern media from or about Japan?


[14-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or China, for that matter


[14-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The obsession with monarchs is heavily centered around them being white.


[14-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
:hopeless:


[14-Apr-20 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The legend of St George has been pretty much immutable since its inception


[14-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're overly fixated on this and it's weird


[14-Apr-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't the original one that he leashes the dragon to use to scare everyone to convert to Christianity? I don't think that got preserved.


[14-Apr-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's...kind of a different narrative.


[14-Apr-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on region, but it's a pan-christianity legend that has a dragon and nothing to do with race


[14-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Modern versions tho tend to giv the dragon a big gold hoard and focus a lot on the monarchy's role.


[14-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[14-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've never heard any modern versions


[14-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always just a horse-sized lizard at most


[14-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And nothing to do with gold


[14-Apr-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of dragonslaying myths in general, or the legend of St George? I don't think the legend of St George is all that popular anymore.


[14-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It may be the origin, but it's not what people use now.


[14-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a big deal in Spain, national holiday and everything


[14-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
English stuff tends to be all about the Arthurian legend with borrowed elements from other cultures as needed.


[14-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's always depected as a guy skewering something that looks like an overgrown comodo dragon, not some smaug ripoff


[14-Apr-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-governor-state-officials-sued-by-church-pastors-coronavirus-restrictions-2020-4

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3 pastors are suing California's governor and attorney general over...
California's public-health measures during the coronavirus created a rift with some faith-based communities who want to worship in group settings.
https://i.insider.com/5e95ddea29d6d977a3198fe9?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Apr-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7

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This map shows how the US really has 11 separate 'nations' with ent...
From the utopian "Yankeedom" to the conservative "Greater Appalachia," looking at these cultures sheds a light on America's political divides.
https://i.insider.com/55b284a82acae711008b9c71?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Apr-20 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, trump is breifing AGAin


[14-Apr-20 11:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[14-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
**BRIEFING MUST CONTINUE** :glowing_eyes:


[14-Apr-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony in toronto uni is free for seniors aged 65 and up. <https://www.ffcoach.ca/personal-finance/free-university-for-seniors/>
I can't convince anyone whos entitled for it to even join it. I got the feeling landlords may feel the same, esp. if they're old boomers


[14-Apr-20 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
what would even be the point?


[14-Apr-20 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
you can't find a paying job at that age anyway.


[14-Apr-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[14-Apr-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant find a paying job now and i;m 29


[14-Apr-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
never too late to learn I guess


[15-Apr-20 12:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I would do it just to learn something I may be interested in


[15-Apr-20 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a good option if you're bored and have time


[15-Apr-20 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
AND are curious.


[15-Apr-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Shaun going full savage https://i.imgur.com/k6gxoUh.png

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Shaun on how landlords can cope with the impact of coronavirus
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[15-Apr-20 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[15-Apr-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/492808-gop-senators-press-trump-to-cooperate-with-watchdogs-following

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GOP senators press Trump to cooperate with watchdogs following shakeup
Two Republican senators are pressing President Trump to change how he works with federal watchdogs who conduct oversight into his administration.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_040820upi_0.jpg


[15-Apr-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reduce, reuse, recycle seems to be the main structure of trump's breifings


[15-Apr-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast till you get to the press questions


[15-Apr-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/04/14/your-stimulus-check-could-be-seized-by-your-own-bank/

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Your Stimulus Check Could Be Seized By Your Own Bank
Congress did not exempt the CARES Act stimulus checks from private debt collection and Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citibank, and U.S. Bank have not ruled out using payments to offset outstanding debts...
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[15-Apr-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492813-trump-to-halt-who-funding-amid-review

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Trump to halt WHO funding amid review
President Trump on Tuesday said his administration will halt funding for the World Health Organization (WHO) pending a review of the global body.DEVELOPING
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldtwo_04142020getty_0.jpg


[15-Apr-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[15-Apr-20 12:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy, the circles around his eyes and lips are just getting bigger


[15-Apr-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
🍆 sucking lips


[15-Apr-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
big ol' dick sucking eyes


[15-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/492820-sanders-progressives-who-sit-on-their-hands-and-dont-support-biden-would

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Sanders: Progressives who 'sit on their hands' and don't support Bi...
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said it would be “irresponsible” for his supporters to not back Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, warning that refusing to get behind the former vice president could get President Trump reelected.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sandersbernie_022620gn26_lead.jpg


[15-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And there it is.


[15-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Honahue#0656
not surprising he said he would support the nominee


[15-Apr-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
So Trump 2020 anyone?


[15-Apr-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he already endorsed Biden before


[15-Apr-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what happens if both candidates die of a virus?


[15-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
In a good world, then Sanders takes over the dem nom


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It's Sanders vs Pence


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm not as sure as I was earlier cause Biden as shit as he is is more popular that Hillary and Hillary did win the popular vote so he only needs to do a bit better than that


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and Sanders wins


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, I'm not convinced there will *be* an election


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Even if there's no election, Trump's term ends in January


[15-Apr-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is cancelled, welcome to trump country


[15-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
He has to leave per constitution


[15-Apr-20 12:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, that hasn't mattered in a couple years


[15-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and whoever is the highest power in congress becomes president


[15-Apr-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has ignored the constitution at every turn


[15-Apr-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
turmp is lsiting off brands and CEOs and it;s making him sound like he just wants to force open the country because there;s nothing sports related on tv to watch


[15-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He always lists as many names and companies as he can to make it seem so many people back him


[15-Apr-20 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's been less than a month since Barr seriously proposed indefinite detainment without trial during the coronavirus crisis


[15-Apr-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he sounds tired


[15-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
welcome to America there is no identity except for the sum of your brands


[15-Apr-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
almost slightly sick


[15-Apr-20 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's danger is mostly in talking on TV and having people refusing "experimental drugs" because they want "the cure the president talked about"


[15-Apr-20 12:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's everyone else in his administration who's really making the power grab possible and actual


[15-Apr-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wants-all-the-power-but-no-responsibility-for-coronavirus-2020-4

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Donald Trump is the anti-Spider-Man
Through the coronavirus the president has shown that he believes he has great power but no responsibility
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[15-Apr-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, really, Trump's comments last night would be grounds for impeachment if it weren't for the fact that Republicans have *demonstrated* their belief that no president in history ever deserved to be impeached, least of all the current one


[15-Apr-20 01:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really do mean that. The arguments that Trump's defense used and Republican senators cited are such an insane legal standpoint that, if applied to literally any former president who faced impeachment, would've gotten him off scot free


[15-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
According to the new GOP, the federal government has absolute power and no responsibility


[15-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
question time


[15-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rules for thee, not for me is the mantra if the gop


[15-Apr-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a reporter just gave him ideas


[15-Apr-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If they don;t obey you will you cut federal fundign to those states?"


[15-Apr-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well now he will


[15-Apr-20 01:06 AM] illumnious#7938
okay what the fuck????????


[15-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why "states' rights" is complete BS


[15-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the moment states are doing stuff conservatives don't like, conservatives jump at their throats.


[15-Apr-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Apr-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
*World Trade W*


[15-Apr-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
China is fiiiine


[15-Apr-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's walking back his force the states open may 1st rhetoric


[15-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but he;s also still doubling down on it...


[15-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is confusing


[15-Apr-20 01:16 AM] illumnious#7938
this is even worse than yesterday's shit right?


[15-Apr-20 01:16 AM] illumnious#7938
> and now he's walking back his force the states open may 1st rhetoric
@prism stryder(intexda) oh my god


[15-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's super angry but hasn't said anything as massively retarded as yesterday's quips yet


[15-Apr-20 01:17 AM] illumnious#7938
that ass keep saying he wants New York to open


[15-Apr-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he keeps bringing up baseball


[15-Apr-20 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm cutting farm hand pay but farmers will still pay off and we wont run out of food at all"


[15-Apr-20 01:21 AM] illumnious#7938
he's blaming democrats


[15-Apr-20 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[15-Apr-20 01:22 AM] illumnious#7938
well fuck


[15-Apr-20 01:22 AM] illumnious#7938
he hate it


[15-Apr-20 01:22 AM] illumnious#7938
good greif


[15-Apr-20 01:26 AM] illumnious#7938
invisible enemy


[15-Apr-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/abortion/492821-judge-blocks-arkansas-from-enforcing-abortion-ban-during-pandemic

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Judge blocks Arkansas from enforcing abortion ban during pandemic
A federal judge in Arkansas blocked the state from enforcing a ban on abortions as part of its response to the coronavirus pandemic, joining a wave of rulings blocking similar attempts in other Republican-led states.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/gavel_istock_0.jpg


[15-Apr-20 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
president man-baby believes that if you don't look at something then it's invisible


[15-Apr-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean


[15-Apr-20 01:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's true that the virus itself isn't visible to the naked eye


[15-Apr-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but to think that the virus itself is the singular reason why people are suffering right now would be...I don't know...not just devoid of awareness, but responsibility as well


[15-Apr-20 01:35 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/RussOnPolitics/status/1250177583758663683?s=20

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This country has been so traumatized by Donald Trump's corruption, cruelty, and incompetence that it's almost hard to remember what it was like to have a REAL president.

But then Barack Obama speaks and shows us it doesn't have to be like this. Change is coming.

#ThanksObam...
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[15-Apr-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492784-trump-announces-new-initiative-on-lending-unused-ventilators-to-areas

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Trump announces new initiative for hospitals to lend unused ventila...
President Trump on Tuesday announced a new public-private partnership aimed at allowing hospitals to lend unused ventilators to areas that need them to treat patients who have contracted the novel coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_041020upi6_lead.jpg


[15-Apr-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why should trump do anyuthing when he can just ask you to share amongst yourselves with your limited supply


[15-Apr-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/492837-trump-eases-back-on-asserting-power-over-governors-on-reopening

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Trump eases back on asserting power over governors on reopening
President Trump on Tuesday said he would authorize the country’s governors to reopen their individual economies as they see fit, a sharp reversal from a day earlier when he asserted he had “total” authority to dictate when to lift social distancin
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldthree_04142020getty_0.jpg


[15-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492826-rhode-island-orders-employers-to-require-masks-for-all-workers

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Rhode Island orders employers to require masks for all workers
Rhode Island Gov.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/maskcoronavirus_041420getty_0.jpg


[15-Apr-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You don't say that self-proclaimed real estate mogul Donald Trump's solution to the ventilator shortage is to try and sell people on the idea of timeshares


[15-Apr-20 02:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vss7E4AmSU0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vss7E4AmSU0
Absolute Lunatic is TOO CRAZY for Fox News
--Sean Hannity interviews Alex Berenson, who shockingly seems too unhinged even for Fox News
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Watch Judge Jeanine weaponize her program for misinformation: https://youtu.be/qtYzaFCq2c0
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[15-Apr-20 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/ec00d5b8f4e0f7550282bd22a6b90027

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Trump's 'I alone can fix it' view and state powers collide
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump insists there are “numerous provisions” in the Constitution to support his view that he has “total authority” to order states to open their economies as...
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[15-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

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Christian communism
Christian communism is a form of religious communism based on Christianity. It is a theological and political theory based upon the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal social system. Although there is no universal agreeme...

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[15-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Say, how did it go with protective equipment at work, @WingbeatPony?


[15-Apr-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know tbh


[15-Apr-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was only there for 2 days. One day to assess the situation and one day to walk back out


[15-Apr-20 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the day after I left they issued a thing saying you *can* wear masks but at that point I was already gone


[15-Apr-20 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
funny how the top brass changed their tune the night the CDC made that recommendation


[15-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sudden legal jeopardy does that


[15-Apr-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
top brass also mass-emailed every employee a thing about "we care about you in these trying times" and included was the equivalent of the scene at the end of the sonic movie


[15-Apr-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
when that general hands the cop the olive garden gift card

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[15-Apr-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/93201a33ee3f73017f02d273f868bfba

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Justice Department takes church's side in 1st Amendment suit
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department took the rare step on Tuesday of weighing in on the side of a Mississippi Christian church where local officials had tried to stop Holy Week services...
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[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, in this *specific* instance I'm okay with the ruling


[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I don't see a problem with the compromise they came up with


[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but we're in "give an inch and they'll take a mile" territory


[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Coronavirus is carborne, duh


[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:twismug:


[15-Apr-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I expect a LOT of megachurches to try and cite this


[15-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
.p carbon, bon bon, bonafied


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[15-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Megachurches are definitely gonna cite this one, yeah


[15-Apr-20 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There is a legal term for a ruling governing a specific situation that can't be used in a more general sense but I can't remember what it is atm


[15-Apr-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I also have no way of telling whether it's applicable to the decision here


[15-Apr-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
from what I can tell, both the church and the city officials responded to the situation appropriately


[15-Apr-20 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, I can understand why people getting out of their cars would be a problem if the whole idea of the drive-in church is to keep them in their cars and maintain social distancing, so the call the police got wasn't out of order


[15-Apr-20 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and from the sound of it, the pastor really didn't want people getting out of their cars either


[15-Apr-20 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but Barr is signal boosting this because DA CHURCH


[15-Apr-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/sequoia-capital-doug-leone-trump-task-force-reopen-american-economy-2020-4

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Sequoia Capital managing partner Doug Leone is advising President T...
The reported Trump campaign donor is the sole venture capitalist on the task force, according to a list released by the White House Tuesday.
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[15-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> *[...] Leone and his wife had previously donated $100,000 to Trump's reelection campaign in a personal capacity*


[15-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponythinking:


[15-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:ponythinking:


[15-Apr-20 03:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/coolranchzaku/status/1250155812993093633

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Eledore Massis Dot Bandcamp (@coolranchzaku)
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censoring this name out of sincere appreciation for them accidentally writing the funniest post of the week
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[15-Apr-20 03:33 AM] ononim#8141
here becuase according to a lot of angry people on internet games are very important actually


[15-Apr-20 03:33 AM] ononim#8141
anyway, how to spot a person who never played CK2


[15-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol


[15-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The game is 50% playing matchmaker


[15-Apr-20 03:39 AM] ononim#8141
Anywya, finally a handsome immortal genius who suddenly appeared in east slavic lands in 8th century and unified Eastern Europe into prosperous and advanced empire will have historically accurate sexual orientation


[15-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you don't make a deal with Satan to get your eunuch's ruler's penis back, you are playing it wrong.


[15-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
censoring the name doesn't really do much when you can just google the body of the tweet with quotation marks to find it anyway


[15-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
>do you fuck people in this game?
>game about hereditary rule


[15-Apr-20 03:42 AM] ononim#8141
to be fair it is a strategy so it's easy to assume it's just like RTS or other Paradox titles


[15-Apr-20 03:42 AM] ononim#8141
but still


[15-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the in game message boxes is "Vidi, vici, veni"


[15-Apr-20 03:42 AM] ononim#8141
blatnantly shows a person doesn't know a single thing about the game and just got mad because of "politics"


[15-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're just alt-right versions of SJUWs who don't play games either.


[15-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're the people who brought you "vagina bones" and "boner culture"


[15-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, I expect that when I'm 50 there'll still be people bitching about gamergate


[15-Apr-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[15-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People dictating furious posts while getting their dicks sucked by a furry wolf in VR ranting about PC culture


[15-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The coomer games must keep getting made


[15-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"In this one irrelevant messageboard I obsessively monitor people are MAD about this thing I like!"


[15-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
gaymergayte

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[15-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people think "self-censorship" shouldn't be allowed


[15-Apr-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
that's gay


[15-Apr-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/so-easy-i-thought-it-was-fake-cras-cerb-system-gets-stellar-reviews-in-first-days-of-operation

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‘So easy I thought it was fake’: CRA’s CERB system gets stellar rev...
CRA portal processing claims in mere minutes and promising income support within three to five days for those who have set up direct deposit
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[15-Apr-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```He has to leave per constitution```


[15-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Opponent#3498
it's almost like you forgot what country you were living in the past 4 years 😂


[15-Apr-20 06:43 AM] Opponent#3498
```People dictating furious posts while getting their dicks sucked by a furry wolf in VR ranting about PC culture```


[15-Apr-20 06:43 AM] Opponent#3498
:glowing_eyes:


[15-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
a future worth living for.


[15-Apr-20 07:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Apr-20 07:20 AM] Evil Emperor Proteus#7383
Da Guburment probably just doesn't want to give away money at the moment.


[15-Apr-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-name-will-appear-coronavirus-relief-checks-n1184026

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Trump's name will appear on coronavirus relief checks
Congress last month passed a $2 trillion coronavirus relief package that includes direct cash payments of up to $1,200 for many Americans.
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[15-Apr-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[15-Apr-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
there's no way that's legal


[15-Apr-20 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
> Paper checks of coronavirus relief payments approved by Congress to be sent to Americans will have President Donald Trump's name printed on them, a Treasury Department official has confirmed to NBC News.
> 
> It won't be a signature, but "President Donald J. Trump" will be printed on the fronts of the checks, the Treasury official confirmed.


[15-Apr-20 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
oh, his name's just appearing on the check


[15-Apr-20 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
which is still really dumb, but not lawbreakingly so


[15-Apr-20 07:23 AM] Crow#5457
though to be fair, trump has broken the law doing incredibly stupid stuff


[15-Apr-20 07:24 AM] Opponent#3498
oh vanity


[15-Apr-20 07:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
do not forget that trump's sharpies are custom-ordered from Sharpie themselves with a black case and his signature printed on them in gold


[15-Apr-20 07:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
simply because he really didn't like trying to write with the ballpoint government pens


[15-Apr-20 07:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[15-Apr-20 07:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Apr-20 07:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Great job of the government 1/4 done


[15-Apr-20 07:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and you can buy a pack of 5 of those sharpies from trump's website for $15


[15-Apr-20 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/B78oke6

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Seriously take action.
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[15-Apr-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
whoever this dude is doesn't understand politics in america


[15-Apr-20 08:02 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
whoever this dude is doesn't understand politics


[15-Apr-20 08:23 AM] jlun2#8758
isn't that pic basically doing the thing they're complaining about?


[15-Apr-20 08:23 AM] jlun2#8758
also Trump dollar bills when


[15-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
within his next term


[15-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
a complainer complaining about complainers


[15-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
well he cannot vote complainers out, so he does the next best thing :D


[15-Apr-20 09:26 AM] illumnious#7938
https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/indiana-man-checks-bank-account-to-find-8-2-million/

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Indiana Man Checks Bank Account To Find $8.2 Million Instead Of his...
An Indiana man who received his stimulus payment, checked his bank account to see that $8.2 million
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[15-Apr-20 09:30 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow I think that guy is who thinks that all country's problems can be solved by voting


[15-Apr-20 09:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Either European or student.


[15-Apr-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
> “Holy crap, this has got to be wrong. I’m like, ‘What in the world is going on? There’s no way I have $8.2 million in my bank account,” he explained to The Times of Northwest Indiana. He ended up calling his bank on Monday, which confirmed that he actually had a balance of $13.69. The bank said that the ATM more than likely printed out the wrong balance on its receipts. Calvin said he’d like the mixup to be fixed because other people who are expecting their checks may be concerned.


[15-Apr-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
dude, it's just a bad receipt


[15-Apr-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
pointless article


[15-Apr-20 09:33 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sad:


[15-Apr-20 09:33 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
no free money for indiana man


[15-Apr-20 09:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[15-Apr-20 09:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Medical treatment stonk in China raising so quickly


[15-Apr-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/14/wisconsin-election-coronavirus-republicans-supreme-court

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Republicans tried to suppress the vote in Wisconsin. It backfired
Wisconsin Republicans lost a state supreme court race on Monday after pushing to hold an election amid the Covid-19 pandemic
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[15-Apr-20 09:48 AM] Crow#5457
seems like being a republican is going to start backfiring in the purple states


[15-Apr-20 10:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-would-receive-2000-a-month-under-house-democrats-plan-2020-4

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House Democrats introduce plan to pay Americans $2,000 a month unti...
The proposal, from Reps. Tim Ryan and Ro Khanna, would provide a monthly stipend to all Americans over 16 who make less than $130,000 a year.
https://i.insider.com/531c63d969beddf223d42ea8?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Apr-20 10:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492859-illinois-governor-on-testing-assistance-ive-given-up-on-any-federal

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Illinois governor on testing assistance: 'I've given up' on any fed...
Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) said he has "given up" on promises for coronavirus aid from the federal government amid an escalating feud between him and President Trump.
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[15-Apr-20 11:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5OAjnveyJo

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[15-Apr-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_Christianity

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Muscular Christianity
Muscular Christianity is a philosophical movement that originated in England in the mid-19th century, characterized by a belief in patriotic duty, discipline, self-sacrifice, manliness, and the moral and physical beauty of athleticism.
The movement came into vogue during the V...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Thomas_Hughes_statue.jpg


[15-Apr-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
get buff for christ!


[15-Apr-20 12:30 PM] Opponent#3498
this strongly reminds me of skinheads and other similar types


[15-Apr-20 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
and in general the combination of religiousness, patriotism and athletic focus is something to stay the fuck away from if at all possible


[15-Apr-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they missing guns


[15-Apr-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's bullet christianity


[15-Apr-20 12:35 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't need them to be a lethal threat.


[15-Apr-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last thing we need is buff christian trump supporters


[15-Apr-20 12:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd honestly rather take guns tbh


[15-Apr-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you can shoot back.


[15-Apr-20 12:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is a shooting range nearby, where people practised their shooting skills on Saturdays. Sometimes one can hear them shooting on Sundays, while the rest of people at churches. And they believe in stopping power of S&W.


[15-Apr-20 01:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
S&W is better than church services

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[15-Apr-20 01:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1250233199512428548?s=21

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WATCH: A small business in North Carolina is rehiring their staff after receiving a loan from President Trump’s #PaycheckProtectionProgram:

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[15-Apr-20 01:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```President Trump’s #PaycheckProtectionProgram```

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[15-Apr-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, so after june everyone loses their job again


[15-Apr-20 02:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Only those who dies during coronavirus outbreak


[15-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk why you so ungrateful,Trump gave small buisness a chance to not go bankrupt


[15-Apr-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the idea is that the debt gets forgiven if he keeps all his employees till the end of june, once july rolls aorund he gets to fire people to his hearts content and never have to pya a single cent back


[15-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You think corona outbreak wont end before end of june?


[15-Apr-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i;m saying this specific case with the trump loan has the requirements of keeping employees till a certain date


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but no, the outbreak likely wont end before the end of june


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sad:


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
are u sure


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especvially if trump decides to force the economy open again before we have things settled


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause if thats so the world economy would collapse


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and we all gonna starve


[15-Apr-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would collapse worse if trump forces the economy open


[15-Apr-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most countries chose to make back up plans such as support checks for their citizens over large handout bailouts for employers whos crew their employees


[15-Apr-20 02:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It will end up like in small farm communities, where everyone pays in goods or... vodka as currency.


[15-Apr-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will barter with the power of mint leaves!


[15-Apr-20 02:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Mint tea calms down... would you take a bucket of turnips in exchange?


[15-Apr-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has attempted to create an illusion of choice for states to open in their own time, what;s likely going to happen instead is he;s going to give them a date to open, some governors are going to disagree and he's going to throw punishments at them and withhold vital equipment until they agree to his whims.


[15-Apr-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then after he forces the economy open, he;s going to act like he saved the country single handedly and ignore all the pandemic still going on and attempt to force a state of "normalcy" onto the country


[15-Apr-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because his re-election hinges on that


[15-Apr-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he will then probably fire fauci


[15-Apr-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless he gets impatient like the child he is and fires fauci next week due to his own incompetence


[15-Apr-20 02:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/morning_joe/status/1250370788584239104?s=21

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Where U.S. coronavirus cases and deaths stand as of April 15
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[15-Apr-20 02:38 PM] illumnious#7938
America, could you just fucking chill with those cases and death tolls for one fucking week


[15-Apr-20 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we cannot, america has no chill


[15-Apr-20 02:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucccccck


[15-Apr-20 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-cdc-fema-lockdown-plans-may-phases-report-2020-4

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A leaked plan by FEMA and the CDC says they will reopen the US in p...
President Donald Trump is determined to reopen the US economy even as officials and experts warn it could lead to a spike in new infections.
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[15-Apr-20 03:32 PM] illumnious#7938
I hope so

Meet the Press Blog: Latest news, analysis and data driving the political discussion https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/blog/meet-press-blog-latest-news-analysis-data-driving-political-discussion-n988541

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Smart political reporting and analysis, including data points, interesting national trends, short updates and more from the NBC News political unit.
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[15-Apr-20 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/492904-gop-senator-burr-owes-everybody-an-explanation-over-stock-sales

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GOP senator: Burr owes everybody an explanation over stock sales
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) on Wednesday said that he thinks Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) should give an "explanation" for recent stock sales that sparked weeks of controversy and launched calls for an investigation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/tillisthom_033120gn.jpg


[15-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how Trump takes credit for every bill he signs


[15-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now the insecure little baby is delaying cheques going out just so they can have his name printed on them


[15-Apr-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd bet good money he's asked more than once about how to get his face on the $100 bill


[15-Apr-20 04:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Would be symbolic if his face was on bills. These are are Trump money.


[15-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his face on money would tank it;s value and basically make it monopoly cash


[15-Apr-20 04:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which symbolizes Trump.


[15-Apr-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should put his face on the penny instead


[15-Apr-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's already worthless and  it would make him very mad


[15-Apr-20 05:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Would it work for $1 bill?


[15-Apr-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, those are still useful


[15-Apr-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would make him mad though


[15-Apr-20 05:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Paper is cheaper than coins, coins could be better used for anniversary releases....


[15-Apr-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue ewith trump based paper money si he would be overeager to print way too much of it to get it circulating faster which would drive our economy into hyper inflation


[15-Apr-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to which our current treasury secretary would happily oblige


[15-Apr-20 05:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see. Zimbabwe: Northern Hemisphere


[15-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
memorial penny. Make it happen.


[15-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
he deserves to be remembered.


[15-Apr-20 05:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ash tray with his portrait would be better.


[15-Apr-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure his campaign is already selling those


[15-Apr-20 05:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Toilet paper with his portrait?


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, no need to be crass.


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
penny is good enough.


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
he's all about economy, after all.


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
this would be a good reminder, this is what the economy would be worth with him around


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh,wait. $1 would be cheaper.


[15-Apr-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be cheaper but less insulting


[15-Apr-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he would be tempted to mass print it to the point of over inflation


[15-Apr-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah you can overinflate even with 1$


[15-Apr-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
0.01, probably not.


[15-Apr-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a lot harder to hyper inflate with pennies


[15-Apr-20 05:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Memorial penny "The US president who ran the country aground"


[15-Apr-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He yelled a lot about being in a cent, so we put him there


[15-Apr-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump: he was in a cent, and now he;s on a cent


[15-Apr-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump faces global criticism over move to end WHO funding https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/global-criticism-grows-trump-move-end-who-funding-amid-pandemic-n1184146

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'Not the time': Trump faces global criticism over move to end WHO f...
"Now is a time for unity," the United Nations chief said, "not a time to cut the resources of the World Health Organization."
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[15-Apr-20 05:43 PM] ononim#8141
https://youtu.be/rRXvQuE9xO4

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[15-Apr-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even everyone in his administration who isnt mike pompeo is asking what the fuck he thinks he;s doing


[15-Apr-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mike pompeo continues to be his anal suckerfish though


[15-Apr-20 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1250395628305362944

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Kellyanne Conway: "This is COVID-19, not COVID-1 folks, and so you would think the people in charge of the World Health Organization, facts and figures, would be on top of that." https://t.co/losQ3H4ZhW
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[15-Apr-20 08:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>she thinks they named it 19 for being the 19th virus of its kind


[15-Apr-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1250397672835555329

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@revrrlewis when you think that Malcolm X was the successor to Malcolm IX
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[15-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/epa-rule-change-to-save-4-coal-plants-across-pennsylvania-west-virginia/575979/

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EPA rule change to save 4 coal plants across Pennsylvania, West Vir...
"This seems like a relatively low stakes act, in terms of the actual effect it will have on the environment," one professor noted, adding the move was likely made "to score some political points in Pennsylvania."
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[15-Apr-20 09:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/gop-loses-lawsuit-claiming-they-have-a-constitutional-right-to-gerrymander-michigan/?utm_source=push_notifications

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GOP loses lawsuit claiming they have a constitutional right to gerr...
On Wednesday, a federal appeals court threw out a lawsuit from the Michigan GOP claiming that a newly-created independent redistricting commission violates their constitutional rights. In Michigan Republican Party v. Benson, the Sixth Circuit rejected the GOP’s argument, and w...
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[15-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Raptorshy#6268

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[15-Apr-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/futurecanon/status/1250502000640512000

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Will be forever haunted by this image of protestors in Ohio demanding the governor open businesses back up
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[15-Apr-20 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and another breifing today at 5pmEST


[15-Apr-20 10:01 PM] illumnious#7938
shiiiiiit


[15-Apr-20 10:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/thousands-of-lives-millions-of-jobs-trillions-of-dollars-conservative-details-toll-of-trumps-covid-19-inaction/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Thousands of lives, millions of jobs, trillions of dollars: Conserv...
Conservative Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin detailed the death toll at the hands of President Donald Trump‘s leadership failure. In her Wednesday column, Rubin pointed to Trump’s “pass the buck” style of leadership, blaming the World Health Organization for his failu...
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[15-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
the quote doesn't match the article


[15-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
but what else is new...


[15-Apr-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
today's stonks

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[15-Apr-20 10:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/stock-market-news-today-indexes-fall-retail-sales-bank-earnings-2020-4-1029095982?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Dow dives 445 points as earnings results hint at massive coronaviru...
All three major US stock indexes tumbled on Wednesday as retail-sales data and quarterly earnings reports reflected the harm of the coronavirus ...
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[15-Apr-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
> she thinks they named it 19 for being the 19th virus of its kind
we should've called it COVID-2019 so people would think there's been 2018 COVIDs running around


[15-Apr-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie continuing from #nsfw-general-discussion , do you think kids looking at adult stuff more so they can comment would make them unintentionally more sexually liberal, or even more conservative?


[15-Apr-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomers are becoming extremely oversensitive about sexuality due to the increasing prevalence of homeschooling and in general less peer interaction.


[15-Apr-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, they don't giv a shit about what your sexuality is.


[15-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically we're headed for a future where everyone's bi, but actually screwing is pretty much seen as dirty.


[15-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Demolition Man LGBT


[15-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Virtual sex helmet gay bars.


[15-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://yarn.co/yarn-clip/9f4e4c10-6127-42c9-9602-c179ee21acde

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Rampant exchange of bodily fluids was a major cause of society's do...
Find video clips by quote. GetYarn.io now.
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[15-Apr-20 10:40 PM] jlun2#8758
>  everyone's bi, but actually screwing is pretty much seen as dirty.
I wonder how this messes up old religions


[15-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually probably really helpful, because the thoughts aren't as bad as the act.


[15-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
yeah yeah Matthew 5:28 but still


[15-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."


[15-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I am very happy to report that the world is not the US and homeschooling outside the US is *extremely* rare

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[15-Apr-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv it a decade and watch physical schools crumble and parents just set their kids down with some school-at-home™ software.


[15-Apr-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US is a bit early to it because of *religion*.


[15-Apr-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Internet is a massive gamechanger and the game will be "you don't need to ever leave your room to become part of society"


[15-Apr-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
I've been waiting for remote work to be forever for years


[15-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't care about remote work


[15-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just care about putting my 8h a day in the slot I want


[15-Apr-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
'Lock her up!': Anti-Whitmer coronavirus lockdown protestors swarm Michigan Capitol https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/lock-her-anti-whitmer-coronavirus-lockdown-protestors-swarm-michigan-capitol-n1184426

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'Lock her up!': Anti-Whitmer coronavirus lockdown protestors swarm ...
Demonstrators were supposed to stay in their cars for social distancing. Not everyone did.
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[15-Apr-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
Religion is harder to kill than :zombiepony:


[15-Apr-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/15/donald-trump-wwe-vince-mcmahon-adviser-economy-12558398/?fbclid=IwAR1UgH-o-jS9hCDi-bx_QvQsg6JiQx3prZO39Z80h6XKGUuiqZOP-UC1XV4

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Donald Trump names WWE's Vince McMahon as adviser to restart US eco...
The chairman will have some influence.
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[15-Apr-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-economic-task-force-reopen-economy-coronavirus-phone-corporate-leaders-2020-4

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Trump's vaunted task force to reopen the US economy became a marath...
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[15-Apr-20 11:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/man-allegedly-kills-wife-facebook-live-stream/?os=dd

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Man appears to kill his wife on Facebook live stream
A man appeared to kill his wife on a Facebook live stream and begged for his video to go viral so that it would get the attention of Bangladeshi officials.
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[15-Apr-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
wait are you fucking kidding me


[15-Apr-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
he named Vince McMahon as an advisor


[15-Apr-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7LYFtUITKM

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Drew Durnil
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Predicting who will be US President in 2020 (Political Machine)
Let's see if this game can accurately predict who will be the next US president in 2020. WHO LOOKS LIKE ME THE MOST?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyPLQhdLuwU

The Political Machine is a government simulation game series from Stardock, in which the player leads a campaign t...
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[15-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gay paintbrush deciding the election


[15-Apr-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```"We can get this rally done and stay within the social distancing guidelines,” Marian Sheridan, a Michigan Conservative Coalition co-founder, said in a statement ahead of the rally. "Citizens are frankly tired of being treated like babies. As adults, we now know what needs to be done to stay safe."```


[15-Apr-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[15-Apr-20 11:37 PM] jlun2#8758
> As adults, we now know what needs to be done to stay safe.
:squintyjack:


[15-Apr-20 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUtlmXzKpAs

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Click On Detroit | Local 4 | WDIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUtlmXzKpAs
'Operation Gridlock' protest underway in Lansing
Operation Gridlock officially started at noon Wednesday. The plan was to circle the capitol with as many honking cars and trucks honking to protest the stay-at-home order.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GUtlmXzKpAs/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Apr-20 11:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
smh they stayed in their cars


[15-Apr-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnefsMysDd8

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David Pakman Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnefsMysDd8
LIVE: Trump Coronavirus White House Press Briefing
Support the stream: Pledge on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/davidpakmanshow
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[15-Apr-20 11:53 PM] illumnious#7938
GREAT TEST


[15-Apr-20 11:57 PM] illumnious#7938
AIDS, EBOLA


[15-Apr-20 11:57 PM] illumnious#7938
okay whut


[15-Apr-20 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder Reagan and his government basically explicitly ignored AIDs to let everyone die.


[16-Apr-20 12:00 AM] illumnious#7938
I fucking can't


[16-Apr-20 12:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I nominate absolute garbage and democrats say no, unfair!"


[16-Apr-20 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Coronavirus is literally democrats fault because they spend time vetting nominees and my partisan judge picks, disgusting!"


[16-Apr-20 12:02 AM] illumnious#7938
Russia


[16-Apr-20 12:02 AM] illumnious#7938
Hoax


[16-Apr-20 12:02 AM] illumnious#7938
waste of time


[16-Apr-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have never in my life witnessed someone so absolute in shifting blame to everyone and everything else but him


[16-Apr-20 12:04 AM] illumnious#7938
how many years now?


[16-Apr-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's democrat's fault for making me obstruct justice to prove my innocence"


[16-Apr-20 12:04 AM] illumnious#7938
nigga put a hold on funding


[16-Apr-20 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literaly, 4 year olds are more accepting of responsibility than this ape


[16-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is trying to blame the WHO


[16-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
For things caused by him refusing their help.


[16-Apr-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
A TOTAL LIFESAVER


[16-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
His strategy is literally


[16-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
go in and take over something


[16-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
then when his leadership screws it up


[16-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
blame those who were actually making things better or who were there before


[16-Apr-20 12:07 AM] illumnious#7938
OH MY GOD


[16-Apr-20 12:07 AM] illumnious#7938
he blames the Obama administrators


[16-Apr-20 12:08 AM] illumnious#7938
everything will be fiiiiiiiiine


[16-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is basically a human virus.


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
America's human virus


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hijakk things, destroy them, boost himself off the destruction.


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't make anything happen on his own.


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He needs something built by other people.


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
he's killing everyone


[16-Apr-20 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
highest of the high tech


[16-Apr-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
and that makes him more popular to his base? :ponythinking:


[16-Apr-20 12:11 AM] illumnious#7938
the comeback kids


[16-Apr-20 12:12 AM] illumnious#7938
are you fucking with me?


[16-Apr-20 12:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-makes-self-deprecating-joke-about-what-a-disaster-his-coronavirus-pressers-are/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump makes self-deprecating joke about what a disaster his coronav...
At Wednesday’s coronavirus task force press briefing, President Donald Trump put up a video discussing General Motors’ pandemic relief efforts — and followed it up with a rare self-deprecating joke that acknowledged how poorly received his recent press conferences have been. “...
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[16-Apr-20 12:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-threatens-to-adjourn-congress-if-dems-dont-come-out-of-quarantine-to-approve-his-appointees/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump threatens to adjourn Congress if Dems don’t come out of quara...
President Donald Trump complained that Democrats should come back to Washington so the SEnate could approve his appointees that he claimed are critical in the time of the coronavirus. The appointees, however, had nothing to do with public health. The president rattled off posi...
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[16-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Time to watch white paint dry on a wall of white drywall


[16-Apr-20 12:28 AM] illumnious#7938
I rather watch that


[16-Apr-20 12:46 AM] illumnious#7938
wat


[16-Apr-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3916690

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China to ban online gaming, chatting with for... | Taiwan News
Say goodbye to your guildmates in China, as CCP extends its political censorship to online gaming world
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[16-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Discord doesn't have a chinese flag


[16-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably for fear of memes getting reported


[16-Apr-20 01:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
🍯 🐻


[16-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also no Taiwan flag


[16-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
🇭🇰


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
🇨🇳


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HK flag tho because...?


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
🇹🇼


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cn, oh


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>:[


[16-Apr-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
> Also, the new law will not allow for zombies and plagues, map editing, roleplaying, as well as organizing a union in games — regulations which are believed to be inspired by the sensitive content made by Joshua Wong.


[16-Apr-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
no :zombiepony: in china anymore too


[16-Apr-20 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
rip minecraft


[16-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
CLANS BANNED


[16-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's already a Chinese version of Minecraft, it'll probably not be touched.


[16-Apr-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Not Invented Here


[16-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mojang will need to get 1.16 out the door fast tho.


[16-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it replaces the texture and name of one existing zombie mob and adds a whole new one)


[16-Apr-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
never played minecraft, do the zombies there spread or nah name only?


[16-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe China banned themselves from PUBG :twismug:

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[16-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're just generic monsters


[16-Apr-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
k


[16-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They can just retexture them to, I dunno, clay golems or something


[16-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do spread actually if they get to villages.


[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Zombies just spawn regularly. If a zombie kills a villager, the killed villager has a chance of turning into a Zombie Villager instead, based on the difficulty


[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~they can also call for backup if attacked in Hard~~


[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] jlun2#8758
"Humanoid nanites"


[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3916690
@Crow that's a clickbait article

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Say goodbye to your guildmates in China, as CCP extends its political censorship to online gaming world
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[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any MC version published after 2014 is non-canon as far as I'm concerned

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[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
1.16 adds Piglins and Hoglins to the Nether


[16-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
when they go to the Overworld, they zombify.


[16-Apr-20 01:17 AM] jlun2#8758
"not zombie"-fy


[16-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
TSP why don't you like attack cooldowns and infested stone blocks that break instantly


[16-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
@illumnious, how so? it directly states that cities are drafting laws that include banning all overseas online gaming


[16-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
> The communist regime is said to have noticed an authority vacuum in online multiplayer games, which enables people to freely socialize without monitoring. Local metropolises are scrambling to draft laws to expand the scope of online censorship in video games and even prohibit gamers from meeting and chatting with people on the other side of the Great Firewall, according to LTN, which cited news from a Chinese gaming forum.


[16-Apr-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
so is discord going to be banned


[16-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably.


[16-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
> Other rules under the new law are less political. They include an online gaming curfew (10 p.m. to 8 a.m.) for gamers aged under 18 and a maximum amount of money they are allowed to spend on games to combat internet addiction.


[16-Apr-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
rip chinese artists on this channel


[16-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought discord was already banned


[16-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why would Discord be banned if Tencent invested in them :ponythinking:


[16-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As someone that's dealt with Tencent


[16-Apr-20 01:23 AM] jlun2#8758
btw. How many video game devs are now frantically scrubbing away any mention of zombies for a china realease now?


[16-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They invest in a lot of products and projects that they know are 100% banned in China


[16-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. That's... one hell of a cosmic brain strat.


[16-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A cynical person might say they're trying to gain ground outside of China so they can break out
A more cynical and realistic person might say they're just laying the ground for eventual CCP world domination


[16-Apr-20 01:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*Yep*


[16-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Also you having dealt with them gave me the slightly amusing idea that they offered to invest in Derpibooru :twismug:


[16-Apr-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
are cartoon porn legal in china?


[16-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I assure you the recent Kirin features have had nothing to do with that

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[16-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"is X legal in china" is a default answer of "no"


[16-Apr-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
is that next april fools? kirinbooru


[16-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, we going Winne the Pooh booru


[16-Apr-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tirade-world-health-organization-coronavirus-briefing-2020-4

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Trump has been accused of scapegoating the WHO to cover up his own administration's failure to address and contain the coronavirus.
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[16-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
PERHAPS THEY KNEW


[16-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
PERHAPS THEY WERE EVEN A SLIGHTEST BIT COMPETENT


[16-Apr-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
PERHAPS.


[16-Apr-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
not likely, but, perhaps.


[16-Apr-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/h2fp4zxt21t41.jpg

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[16-Apr-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.propublica.org/article/theres-been-a-spike-in-people-dying-at-home-in-several-cities-that-suggests-coronavirus-deaths-are-higher-than-reported

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There’s Been a Spike in People Dying at Home in Several Cities. Tha...
Coronavirus death counts are based on positive tests and driven by hospital deaths. But data from major metropolitan areas shows a spike in at-home deaths, prompting one expert to say current numbers were just “the tip of the iceberg.”
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[16-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if Trump's sons realize how ugly they are


[16-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, purely physically ugly


[16-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wouldn't care, most likely.


[16-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're in their late 30-40 and cannot grow facial hair worth a damn but are for some reason still trying


[16-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their logic is that they;re rich therefore looks dont factor in


[16-Apr-20 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a point where people realize it isn't for them and just shave daily


[16-Apr-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump's son is also desperate for the favor his father seems to show kushner over him, which is sad to watch really


[16-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus, Kushner


[16-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's an entirely different animal


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've never seen someone fail upward so hard


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kushner looks liek he has 2 horcruxes


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He gets promoted into all these random positions


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally shows up *once*


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Immediately fucks up


[16-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is never seen publicly in that group again


[16-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gets promoted into some other group


[16-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
eric trump wouldn't look so bad without the beard


[16-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
do you think people would care about nepotism if the people appointed were super competent?


[16-Apr-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the beard he kinda looks like an 80's movie bully


[16-Apr-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
not really.


[16-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
80's movie bullies were usually unironically the heroes of their films


[16-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow a tiny minority would, but for the most part if someone does their job well, especially a critical one, people tend to look past how they got it


[16-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kushner has fucked up *at every single step*


[16-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Crow#5457
I don't personally see a problem with nepotism if the person is actually good at their job


[16-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Ivanka has been nothing more than the alt-right "see, we respect women!" posterchild


[16-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
though it should definitely be left out of places where there's actual power involved


[16-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
like say trump nominating his son for the supreme court


[16-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
as an example


[16-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
not as something he actually plans to do


[16-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that he would likely get confirmed by the senate


[16-Apr-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, scotus judge jared kushner would be a disaster


[16-Apr-20 01:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Apr-20 01:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Daily new cases in NY raised up again...


[16-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're going to keep doing so, maybe at a slightly decreased rate, but still


[16-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to predict the US is pointless


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole US strategy since 1910 has been "fuck the norm, do whatever"


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit, donald trump's father (fred trump) was arrested for marching with the KKK in 1927


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
entirely unsuprising


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

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Fred Trump
Frederick Christ Trump (October 11, 1905 – June 25, 1999) was an American businessman and philanthropist. He was a prominent real-estate developer in New York City. He was the father of Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, and Maryanne Trump Barry, a former U...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Fred_Trump.png


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why am i not surprised at this news


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
Frederick Christ Trump


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[16-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
> On Memorial Day in 1927, the Ku Klux Klan marched in Queens to protest Protestant American citizens being "assaulted by Roman Catholic police of New York City." Trump and six other men were arrested "on a charge of refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so." All seven arrested were referred to as "berobed marchers" in the Long Island Daily Press; Trump was the only one not held on charges.


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought that was common knowledge


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Opponent#3498
:wow:


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guessing he had the money to avoid charges.


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
> When asked about the issue in September 2015 after Boing Boing dug up the article, his son Donald Trump, then a candidate for president of the United States, denied that his father had ever been arrested.


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another fun Trump fact is his grandpa died of the 1918 flu


[16-Apr-20 02:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "Ku Klux Klan"?


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump said a bit bakk that he "didn't know of anyone who died of the flu"


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://americanlookout.com/georgia-democrat-rep-vernon-jones-shocks-his-party-by-endorsing-trump-for-2020/

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Georgia Democrat Rep. Vernon Jones Shocks His Party By Endorsing Tr...
Vernon Jones is an African American Democrat who represents a mostly African American area in Georgia. He sent shock waves through the Democratic party on Tuesday by endorsing Trump for 2020. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports: Georgia Democratic lawmaker endorses Trump’...
https://americanlookout.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Vernon-Jones-1200x630.jpg


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorta on topic


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder if trump even knows anything about his grandfather given how self absorbed he is


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ku Kluk from Cyclos


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A black democrat endorses Trump in an apparent fit of madness or smth


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump was an authoritarian parent, maintaining curfews and forbidding cursing, lipstick, and snacking between meals. At the end of his day, Trump would receive a report from Mary on the children's actions, and if necessary, decide upon disciplinary actions. He took his children to building sites to collect empty bottles to return for the deposits. The boys had paper routes, and when weather conditions were poor, their father would let them make their deliveries in a limousine.


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially Circle Clan


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That or he was just bribed


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
(referring to fred trump)


[16-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a group opposed to blakks gaining rights after the civil war.


[16-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Founded by southerners mad they lost.


[16-Apr-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

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Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan (), commonly called the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist hate group, whose primary target is African Americans. The Klan has existed in three distinct eras at different points in time during the history of the United States. Each has advocated...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/KKK-Flag.svg/1200px-KKK-Flag.svg.png


[16-Apr-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God the water from the sheer ammount of southern tears from losing the Civil War could sustain another Union army through Georgia in a hot summer


[16-Apr-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
> Long a polarizing figure in Georgia politics, Jones told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he views Trump as a transformative president whose policies have helped African American voters, military veterans and farmers.


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
this dude went full retard


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what trump is he watching?


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Letting the South back in was a mistake.


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it must have been a bribe


[16-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should've made them all territories.


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
tell them they can get statehood bakk eventually.


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There should be an exception to the First Amendment for Confederate shit tbh


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That'd just drive it underground.


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's easier to deal with them when they're visible.


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah but i could see the GOP using that to punish communists and antinationalists and all


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you want it on the surface for all to see where it can be judged harshly int he light of day


[16-Apr-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes it easier to fight


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a good way of thinking


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it doesn't work


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you want is a clear way to wakk them like moles


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem: It's on the surface EVERYWHERE


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
african american voters have never been so disenfranchised since the 60's and military types hate trump


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For example


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do you think when you see a scientist and creationist debate on stage?


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a putrid coating covering half the country in some way or another


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what you really want is for them to be paraded around as fukking idiots.


[16-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never given a real platform.


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Allowed to talk but from the stokkades.


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Great people on both sides"


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A good way of undermining their PR would be exposing them as violent thugs


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing that requires a media incentivized to be objective and thus to bury them in their own bullshit.


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Top Gear of all people did that


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you need something like the BBC


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was one episode where they just went and painted insulting messages on their car and drove around Alabama


[16-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the joke known as PBS


[16-Apr-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They almost got shot


[16-Apr-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Real Southern Hospitality there


[16-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
When PBS airs segments about kids with two mommies


[16-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be Republicans that are scared.


[16-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that shit should be blaring in every station, any station that refuses to air it gets its assets seized.


[16-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just blame Schlafly for all of modern conservativism really


[16-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, your local gov't is different? Cool, we'll be doing a highly transparent investigation into it soon.


[16-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to just expose this stuff to the light of day.


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives LOVE everything hidden just below the surface.


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly

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Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Stewart Schlafly (; born Phyllis McAlpin Stewart; August 15, 1924 – September 5, 2016) was a movement conservative and author. She held staunchly conservative social and political views, opposed feminism and abortion, and successfully campaigned against ratification of...
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[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem is finding enough ideologically fanatical people as regulators in order to avoid bribes


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Schlafly did more for American conservativism than anyone in history


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
you make the bribery impossible to do non-publicly


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan became president _because_ of her movement


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way the moment it happens it gets revealed and shat on


[16-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need good people


[16-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need glass walls


[16-Apr-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say only actual, open communists can actually run this country properly


[16-Apr-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they had control


[16-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment anything involving money or power gets laundered, there's opportunity for it to be corrupted.


[16-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The underlying system of the US basically ensures that any given political system could run the US


[16-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It could be a dictatorship of the proletariat, a Nazi state, a monarchy, a parliamentary democracy


[16-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's part of American exceptionalism, it's too big to really fail


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, not even the Great Depression brought it down


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We'd need a much bigger crisis


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It only didn't because of the New Deal.


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida's "sunshine laws" are horrifically mistargeted


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or perhaps an equally damaging one, if we assume sectional divides are definite enough to ramp up militancy and strife


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
they mainly mean that like, random poor people get exposure in the media


[16-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
instead of, you know, the governor doing shady shit.


[16-Apr-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
America needs more communists marching in the streets and setting up guillotines at state legislatures tbh


[16-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The governor shouldn't be able to make a fucking smear campaign ad over a regular citizen like Scott did


[16-Apr-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Civility brought us nowhere and will not


[16-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elected officials should have fewer speech rights.


[16-Apr-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Better to seize the discourse


[16-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elected officials have no words to speak during their job but the words of their constituents.


[16-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that sitting there in your perfectly cultivated room while someone else does anything necessary to win will benefit you is crazy on its face.


[16-Apr-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what civility is.


[16-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want it, you need to force everyone to abide by it.


[16-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In any situation where a random person doesn't hav to abide by it, there's no point in it.


[16-Apr-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In politics, there is rarely anyone setting outside rules.


[16-Apr-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politicians can say whatever the fukk they want.


[16-Apr-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is thus no reason for civility.


[16-Apr-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, if Congress like, had a referee


[16-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493060-pennsylvania-state-senate-votes-to-override-governors-stay-at-home-order

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Pennsylvania state senate votes to override governor's stay-at-home...
The Pennsylvania state senate on Wednesday sent a bill that would partially lift the lockdown on most of the state’s businesses to Gov. Tom Wolf’s (D) desk.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/wolftom_04142020_1.jpg


[16-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
who could actually shut down some Senator tweeting about how all the problems are cause blakk people


[16-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
then sure, be civil.


[16-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's "yes this is actually racist because America" time.


[16-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
you wouldn't like there being a conservative arbiter though


[16-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like, news has come out that COVID-19 hits blakk people way harder because they can't afford care.


[16-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they are less likely to hav things like paid sikk leave etc.


[16-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/493050-im-a-filmmaker-whose-business-is-threatened-by-piracy-and-site

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I'm a filmmaker whose business is threatened by piracy – and site b...
America should be a leader in copyright policy, because we are the world’s leader in creativity. Perhaps we can restore this leadership with a healthy balance of updates to the law and by prodding the big internet platforms like YouTube to be more accountable for the piracy th...
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_movietheater_103119istock.jpg


[16-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Jonathan Yunger is Co-President of Millennium Media, an independent film company whose movies include franchises such as The Expendables, Hellboy, the Has Fallen series, Hitman’s Bodyguard, and Rambo."


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of this, those calls to reopen, and cause more deaths, because THE LINE


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Make shitty movies


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
are now going mainstream in the GOP


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>"WTF piracy is killing me!"


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is pirating Hellboy


[16-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This guy just wants to sue TPB for money.


[16-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hav the gov't send him a chekk.


[16-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder when the industry will get it in their skulls that when you give people a centralized service for everything, no one pirates


[16-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Inconvenience is what causes piracy.


[16-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroy publishers.


[16-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf does "independent film company" mean when you have millions to dump into flops?


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I'm not Disney so I'm ~independent~"?


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
yes.


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There shouldn't be companies who own the rights to deliver content from the producer to the consumer.


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We got these licenses for cheap and will treat them cheaply and hope there's no flops"


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm making tens of millions, not tens of billions.


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm 'independant', piracy is killing me.


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy basically killed Hellboy btw


[16-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
that's exactly that Teaspoon.


[16-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
small loan of a million dollars.


[16-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should pay Disney to watch stuff on Netflix, and Disney should be unhappy they can't corral you into their own site.


[16-Apr-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Abolish copyright


[16-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That latest Hellboy movie/reboot was so bad


[16-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, so, godlessly bad


[16-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, "this game is an EPIC exclusive for a year" should be illegal.


[16-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[16-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why and how


[16-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
this belief in legal system serving your or common needs


[16-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem with copyright is getting licenses to deliver shit.


[16-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
or having the desire to do so


[16-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, Aldi white label brands should be sold for the same price or lower at corner shops


[16-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It creates a lot of extra problems for consumers and encourages monopolization.


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Epic exclusives have nothing to do with copyright


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, my main problem with Epic is that they treat AAA devs way better than indies


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They have to do with funding projects


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking they're still treating them better than Steam does, or so it seems.


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why does a AAA dev only have to be exclusive for like six months but indies are always a year?


[16-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a double-edged problem


[16-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
they have no intention to be 'fair', they have endless chinese money to burn


[16-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Epic treats devs *infinitely* better than Valve does


[16-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
so they burn them and try to muscle in on the market


[16-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
it  has a side effect of being good for people.


[16-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
the best you can do is agree to cooperate and abuse the system while it lasts.


[16-Apr-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/15/21222084/kentucky-voter-id-coronavirus-pandemic

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Kentucky just made it harder to vote during a pandemic
Wisconsin-style tactics come to Kentucky.
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[16-Apr-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Apr-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
do we have laws in this country? no?


[16-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[16-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
not really.


[16-Apr-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
but then you're not unique


[16-Apr-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
most of the world is like this


[16-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493044-trump-threatens-to-adjourn-both-chambers-of-congress

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Trump threatens to adjourn both chambers of Congress
President Trump on Wednesday threatened to use his executive power to force both chambers of Congress to adjourn if the Senate did not confirm his nominees for vacancies across the administration.
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[16-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically if they dont vote in his bullshit, he;s coing to extend their stay aways?


[16-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[16-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has the power to do this under the Constitution, but it's a bad idea.


[16-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1250547609607036929

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The President just said that he may unilaterally adjourn Congress. This seems to be a reference to Article II, Section 3, which gives a president in “extraordinary occasions” to convene or adjourn the Houses. This power has never been used and should not be used now . . .
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[16-Apr-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ, the comments


[16-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"How dare you deny Trump the right to assume absolute control?"


[16-Apr-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-threatens-to-adjourn-congress-rants-against-voice-of-america-2020-4

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Trump threatens to take the extraordinary step of adjourning Congre...
"If you hear what's coming out of the Voice of America, it's disgusting," Trump said. "The things they say are disgusting to our country."
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[16-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Will be funny one year from now if Biden does the same thing/threatens to


[16-Apr-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> He then mentioned Michael Pack, a documentary filmmaker the president nominated to oversee the US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which oversees VoA.
> 
> "Michael Pack would get in, he'd do a great job, but he's been waiting now for two years," Trump said. "Can't get him approved. The senators left Washington until at least May 4."
> 
> "The Constitution provides a mechanism for the president to fill positions in such circumstances," Trump added, referring to the Recess Appointments Clause of the Constitution.
> 
> "The Senate should either fulfill its duty and vote on my nominees, or it should formally adjourn so that I can make recess appointments," Trump said. "We have a tremendous number of people that have to come into government, and now more so than ever before because of the virus and the problem. We have to do it. They've made it very difficult to run government."
> 
> He then went on a tirade against Democratic lawmakers, who control the House of Representatives. After accusing them of putting up "roadblocks" via the Russia investigation and the impeachment inquiry, the president called on the lower chamber to agree to adjourn.


[16-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, what would prevent a president from adjourning Congress while they were impeached?


[16-Apr-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
simple, he didnt know about that article back then


[16-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are after his little power trip the other day he tasked soemone with finding a constitutional article that he could use for a legitimate power move


[16-Apr-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Find me something i can use against my enemies or you;re fired"


[16-Apr-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy this sounds an awful lot like Putin dissolving Russia's government before the election


[16-Apr-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what a coincidence


[16-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president has the explicit power to do this, though.


[16-Apr-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's *true*


[16-Apr-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but really, Putin had that explicit power as well


[16-Apr-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the key is when and how you use a power


[16-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founders did not think it would be used in this way.


[16-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They probably thought it would be used to shut down a heated congress a while when it was enraged and passing a flurry of bills, too many for Americans to keep up with.


[16-Apr-20 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like, you wouldn't just declare a national emergency because you didn't get the funding for your pet project, right? Who would do a thing like that


[16-Apr-20 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can be sure that McConnell off-mic fully supports this plan and would probably "work very hard" with the president to "resolve the situation" in the event he actually tries to wield this power


[16-Apr-20 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and would come back with a "solution" that kneecaps the house but makes the senate majority very happy


[16-Apr-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone should kneecap mcconnell


[16-Apr-20 03:20 AM] jlun2#8758
I assume the GOP would back this since Trump?


[16-Apr-20 03:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
status quo is exchanged for further GOP fascism while keeping up the appearance of maintaining status quo, no actual sketchy presidential power is actually used in a way that even the republican majority of the SCOTUS would have to agree was wrong, Barr pulls up some napkin scribble from the 1800s to justify how all of this was justified and it would've been justified no matter what


[16-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would back it less for trump and more for the ability to gain mroe senatorial powers while the gop is in charge of it


[16-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Department of Justification.

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[16-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What stops a president from saying every minor issue is an extraordinary occasion and keeping Congress constantly adjourned?


[16-Apr-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
we're about to find out


[16-Apr-20 03:48 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking if it's GOP, nothing. if it's democrats, probably entire GOP + a bunch of democrats


[16-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/14/coronavirus-bishop-who-defied-social-distancing-dies-covid-19/2987693001/>


[16-Apr-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
feels like https://i.redd.it/yi29urfus5m41.jpg

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[16-Apr-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/michigan-citizens-protest-over-coronavirus-stay-home-order/

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Protesters clog streets in Michigan over Whitmer coronavirus stay-h...
Thousands of protesters on foot and in vehicles converged Wednesday on Michigan’s capital to rally against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders in the state. “Operation Gri…
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[16-Apr-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People just really wanna fucking die don't they


[16-Apr-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Pro life is a ruse


[16-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
btw, <https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/rush-limbaugh-were-shutting-down-our-country-because-cold-virus>


[16-Apr-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is where Conway got the "19th version of the coronavirus" from


[16-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Limbaugh


[16-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The government is run by literal retards


[16-Apr-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Limbaugh is a guy who said there's so many health problems in the US because people are "exercise nuts"


[16-Apr-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And by literal I mean absolute literal retards, drown in the rain, need to be reminded to eat, walk into traffic to pick up a coin retards


[16-Apr-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The very few that aren't are complete psycopaths


[16-Apr-20 04:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking. uh....exercise nuts? wrong country


[16-Apr-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
is he surrounded by anorexics?


[16-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/hour-3-rushs-theory-health-care-exercise-freaks-are-driving-costs

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Hour 3: Rush's Theory On Health Care: "Exercise Freaks" Are Driving...


[16-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What have I told you about diet and exercise? Exercise is irrelevant. What matters in losing weight is what you eat, pure and simple, and how much, nothing more than that."

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[16-Apr-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shocker if you don't eat Twinkies and drink soda every day you probably will lose weight without exercise


[16-Apr-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
rush is wrong on a lot of things but that's actually correct


[16-Apr-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Nothing" more than that


[16-Apr-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
it really doesn't matter how much you exercise


[16-Apr-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
it's beneficial to exercise for many reasons but you won't really lose weight doing it


[16-Apr-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
nebbie I found just the image for you ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/700170759351566366/SPOILER_iu.png ||

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[16-Apr-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have five minutes to explain why I shouldn't delete this.


[16-Apr-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm a chat admin :^)


[16-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What kind of onomatopoeia is "GGGN!" anyway


[16-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alright.


[16-Apr-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
what in the god damned fuck

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[16-Apr-20 04:56 AM] jlun2#8758
This appeared in my twitter feed

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[16-Apr-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking because it's the highest form of art.


[16-Apr-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
A political cartoon advocating murder, but of the wrong people by the wrong people with no explanation.


[16-Apr-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking Trump's own objectionable "go after their families" logic and applying it to him.


[16-Apr-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like this is someone who wants a conservative gov't like Trump's, but run by a woman, who murders women of the wrong family.


[16-Apr-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, that's the neoliberal dream.


[16-Apr-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is peak America.


[16-Apr-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Half of the CEOs who own all of the water in America should be women, etc


[16-Apr-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people matter, so we should put their faces on the currency while we rob it from them in broad daylight.


[16-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What, actually giv them jobs? Do you think jobs just grow on trees! Those are for women. White women.


[16-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do disagree with your pessimism to some degree, because putting Tubman on the $20 bill would fix _somethIng_ and is thus better than nothing.


[16-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is these people want it to stop there.


[16-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just because giving them jobs has more structural obstacles doesn't mean we don't do the small thing first


[16-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want that to be where you declare it's all fixed while they look the other way as housing is denied by Trump et al. in New York to blakks.


[16-Apr-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This can result in a bakkwards slide, because you're simultaneously pissing off conservatives while not actually improving conditions.


[16-Apr-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's good to work with them when they want the small thing, but bad to actually giv them power.


[16-Apr-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want to turn around and stab them up the ass when they bend over to look for the fine print to screw over blakks.


[16-Apr-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then run a bit away and point to the GOP when they ask who did it.


[16-Apr-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is insanity to have Jackson on currency though


[16-Apr-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Apr-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like putting Reagan's name on a drug reform bill


[16-Apr-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE REAGAN REFORMATION ACT etc.


[16-Apr-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Better yet, such a bill to repeal the drinking age being 21


[16-Apr-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
would be hilarious


[16-Apr-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DC's airport is for some reason named after Reagan


[16-Apr-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was still alive when it happened


[16-Apr-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Flying into Reagan/National is also a fun thing to experience because the approach is over the Potomac and composed of quick wide turns to stay out of the no fly zone


[16-Apr-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Somehow a good metaphor for Reagan.


[16-Apr-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
He really hated air travel as an industry, didn't he?


[16-Apr-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[16-Apr-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Air traffic controller strikes that he broke


[16-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the sort of thing that really should be unconstitutional.


[16-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[16-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Between the NLRA and Taft-Hartley you've really got to understand


[16-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Labor in the US as a voting bloc has conceded that they are not anti-government or management, functionally


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why the US doesn't have general strikes


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not even pro-universal healthcare.


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All that really gets solved is comparatively, minor labor disputes


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just pro-put-the-benefits-to-us


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Note that even Biden supports the repeal of the Taft-Hartley Act)


[16-Apr-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But only for the longest serving, most established workers.


[16-Apr-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Taft-Hartley is probably unconstitutional, it takes the right of protest and takes it away from the pro-unionist


[16-Apr-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk getting Kavanaugh to agree with that.


[16-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.outsideonline.com/2347736/kavanaugh-also-sided-seaworld-blackfish-case

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Brett Kavanaugh Sided with Seaworld in 'Blackfish' Case
The Supreme Court nominee wrote a troubling diatribe in 2013 against workers' rights
https://www.outsideonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/full-page/public/2018/09/27/jail-kavanaugh_h.jpg?itok=IUaJSbya


[16-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the case that really made me understand that while Kavanaugh has a good legal writing style, he just didn't get it.


[16-Apr-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“When should we as a society paternalistically decide [that employees should be protected from] the risk of significant physical injury?”


[16-Apr-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the "this is what they signed up for" argument.


[16-Apr-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which you say after a navy ship explodes due to negligence.


[16-Apr-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you thus say the Navy did nothing wrong.


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because at the end of the day you just don't want the people in power to be held accountable.


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He mainly didn't even get that because like


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He kept focusing on it as if it was someone on vacation who got on a rented jet ski and got hurt


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not an employee working for someone who is subject to OSHA


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes


[16-Apr-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the "they knew the risks" argument, Its.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't believe OSHA should exist.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes that a job app should come with an agreement that you accept any and all risks.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then it's on you to protect yourself at work.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your own protective gear, your own changes to make the machinery safer, etc.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and if the employer forbids such, oh well, there's other jobs.


[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/nyregion/coronavirus-nj-andover-nursing-home-deaths.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

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After Anonymous Tip, 17 Bodies Found at Nursing Home Hit by Virus
There have been 68 recent deaths of residents and nurses from the facility in a small New Jersey town.
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[16-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You ever watch "American Factory?"


[16-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly, but if so, it's been a while.


[16-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just love how after showing in China that the way to dispose of broken glass is in a big unprotected pile outside the factory


[16-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They show that the US plant now does the same thing


[16-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, that, no, havn't seen it.


[16-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, Ayn Rand's ideas need to die already.


[16-Apr-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
> <cut link because no reason to see it again>
@Itsthinking 

Yea shit like this inspires a moribund fatalism inside of me. More so since the protest actually blocked Landing's downtown hospital from ambulance traffic. The staff were PISSED off. In a way, I say amuse their hubris and open the state back up so we get the second wave, because this is all predicated on these fuckers thinking it's all over: new infections are declining.

Like bitch: that's because of the order and the order keeps being tightened to reduce points of contact. Stop it.

Meanwhile my friend who just got released from the ICU for the virus and is suffering from presently short term complications is posting from her apartment:


[16-Apr-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
> I laid in a hospital bed for seven days listening to folks around me coughing and suffering. At one point the coughing stopped in the room next to me and the terror sunk in that that gentleman either died or went on a ventilator, and suddenly I missed the sound of his painful coughs. I looked in the eyes of my nurse with all of her protective gear on and asked her if I was going to make it through the night after the doctor made me verbalize that I wanted to be resuscitated in the worse case scenario. This virus is not like the flu folks. My heart is aching for the people dying in quarantine, scared out of their minds and completely alone. You post articles showing stats saying how this virus isn't as bad as others in the past, but we are staying home to keep things that way! I hope the American people who think this is a hoax wake up to the reality. It's sickening me to see the lack of empathy. I'm 29, climbed a mountain three months ago and have to wear oxygen at home just to stand in the shower. It's not a hoax.

> Please feel free to share.


[16-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Things are getting better because the US has basically been closed for a month


[16-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you opened in say, mid-May, things would get worse.


[16-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if you opened in late July, you'd just get a second round in September or October


[16-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not going away until there's a vaccine.


[16-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And even once there is, people should learn from this that the way life was before the pandemic doesn't work anymore.


[16-Apr-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
even then it could mutate


[16-Apr-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There shouldn't be public gatherings of more than say, 600 or so people


[16-Apr-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever


[16-Apr-20 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's already going to animals. A tiger was infected at a zoo. If it did a new phase of zoonotic transmission it can certainly do it more


[16-Apr-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Received this from a friend today

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[16-Apr-20 05:34 AM] jlun2#8758
will Ayn Rand's ideas ever die tbh
seems like a generation or 2 later society collectively forgets and repeats


[16-Apr-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If people continue to think the ideas of a wannabe Roman emperor and an Austrian addicted to meth are good ideas, why should the ideas of a PTSD-addled Russian refugee be seen as bad?

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[16-Apr-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-the-narcissistic-authoritarian-statist-declares-he-has-total-authority-to-reopen-the-economy

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When authority is total, so too is the madness of the man who declares it.
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[16-Apr-20 06:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Apr-20 07:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> Had President Barack Obama said “If somebody is president of the United States, their authority is total,” I can assure you that every conservative in America would have lost their goddamn mind. Pitchforks. Torches. Hot and cold running impeachment trials. 
sadly pretty much


[16-Apr-20 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
```“When it’s my time to go, God’s going to call me home,” Smith said. “I think that to live is inherently to take risks. I’m not concerned about this virus any more than I am about the flu.” ```


[16-Apr-20 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh I agree with the sentiment, death is inevitable anyway


[16-Apr-20 07:43 AM] Opponent#3498
however, it's both impractical for those not willing to die at a drop of a hat and hard to counter


[16-Apr-20 07:44 AM] Opponent#3498
plus I'd much rather prefer instant bullet-to-the-head option (there's more than one reason I envy your firearms availability) than drowning in your own blood for weeks. Doubt those people are willing to become unknown martyrs :D


[16-Apr-20 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/trump-adjourn-congress-recess-appointments-3c2a7a5b-835f-4370-9f5e-1e466f226669.html

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Trump threatens to force Congress to adjourn to allow recess appoin...
"The current practice of leaving town while conducting phony pro-forma sessions is a dereliction of duty..."
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[16-Apr-20 11:10 AM] Opponent#3498
```The Leader```


[16-Apr-20 11:10 AM] Opponent#3498
*giggity*


[16-Apr-20 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[16-Apr-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The "Oh, I lived my life and I'm willing to take the risk with the virus" is a terrible thing


[16-Apr-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's akin to "Oh, I lived my life and I'm OK with the risk of going 30mph over the speed limit"


[16-Apr-20 12:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Apr-20 01:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-government-running-out-money-for-small-business-loans-2020-4

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The US government is on the verge of running out of money for coron...
The SBA has processed more than 14 years' worth of loans in less than 14 days, and is now about to hit its $349 billion lending limit.
https://i.insider.com/5e97e6a5b3b09237ce63c0a4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Apr-20 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-offers-undocumented-immigrants-coronavirus-financial-relief-2020-4

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California is the first state to offer unauthorized immigrants fina...
"You need to use organizations that have trusted relationships with these families," Jacqueline Martinez told the Associated Press.
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[16-Apr-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
well at least _they_ are willing to recognise who feeds them.


[16-Apr-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/QIZZOtz.mp4

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[16-Apr-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound in source


[16-Apr-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck the states that need ventilators! Putin's cock isnt breathing right, he needs the ventilators more!"


[16-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The stupidest fucking part of all this is that we JUST fucking bought ventilators from russia


[16-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.state.gov/u-s-purchase-of-needed-supplies-from-russia

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The U.S. agreed to purchase urgently needed personal protective equipment from Russia to help FEMA respond in New York City. This is a time to work together to overcome a common enemy that threatens the lives of all.
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[16-Apr-20 01:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This 🦅  looks so sexy


[16-Apr-20 01:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
With splitted legs


[16-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The shield blocks the view.


[16-Apr-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Apr-20 03:20 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QueMqRjW5Eo

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Well There's Your Problem Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QueMqRjW5Eo
Well There's Your Problem |  Episode 23: Vajont Dam
Today we talk about a mysterious act of God's love.

The Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wtyppod

Some references:
fairmount dam image
By Yasmeen Elmelige - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=51527273

grand coulee dam image
By U.S. Bureau...
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[16-Apr-20 03:20 PM] Opponent#3498
brutally ripping into Ukraine at the start there


[16-Apr-20 03:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it's good to hear that things are looking shitty from the outside, as well as inside


[16-Apr-20 03:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-Apr-20 03:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Co....irus what?


[16-Apr-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.propublica.org/article/attorney-general-barr-refuses-to-release-9-11-documents-to-families-of-the-victims

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Attorney General Barr Refuses to Release 9/11 Documents to Families…
The move comes after President Donald Trump promised to help families, who accuse Saudi Arabia of complicity in the attacks. Barr says he cannot even explain why the material must stay secret without putting national security at risk.
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[16-Apr-20 03:51 PM] Opponent#3498
why is THIS still relevant???


[16-Apr-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
becuse the government has been screwing victims and first repsonders of 9/11 since it happened


[16-Apr-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now it's happening because trump is a booty call to saudi arabia and barr doesnt want to jeopardize that by releasing incriminating evidence agaisnt them


[16-Apr-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not national security he;s protecting, it;s trump's assets


[16-Apr-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
this is extremely dumb.


[16-Apr-20 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is amazingly stupid, yes


[16-Apr-20 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we can ever get trump out of office, barr should be shot in the streets for treason with no due process


[16-Apr-20 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump should too quite frankly but i;d rather see him suffer trial after trial with no administration to block evidence


[16-Apr-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-stimulus-checks-millionaires-wealthy-tax-break-loophole-a9466476.html

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Millionaires receive $1.7m in coronavirus relief as most taxpayers ...
'Someone wrongly seized on this health emergency to reward ultra-rich beneficiaries, likely including the Trump family'
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/03/25/18/trump-nato-coronavirus-25-march.jpg


[16-Apr-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/NetrhXU.jpg

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If you’re homeless, just buy a house, duh!
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[16-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
ah yes of course he did it.


[16-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
someone needs to summon the 'Trump gave small business a chance' person to read it.


[16-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the loans office in charge of giving out these loans just reached the end of their budget


[16-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
it's so petty it's insulting


[16-Apr-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
like... nobody of the recepients would even fucking notice this


[16-Apr-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
besides 'enjoying' his mug on the check


[16-Apr-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yet he still did it, just reliably worst solution on any situation


[16-Apr-20 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493094-new-york-state-hires-mckinsey-to-create-science-based-trump-proof-plan

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New York state hires McKinsey to create science-based, 'Trump-proof...
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) has reportedly brought in outside consultants to help the state develop a plan along with the governors of New Jersey and Connecticut for a "Trump-proof" way to reopen the three states' economies.
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[16-Apr-20 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Apr-20 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They just want to literally fuck the queen.


[16-Apr-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
British monarchy is just political waifuism tbh


[16-Apr-20 07:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6GvszlkR0

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Armed protesters demand an end to Michigan's coronavirus lockdown o...
Thousands of protesters in cars and on foot have flouted Michigan’s stay-at-home orders to demand the state reopened. ‘It’s time for our state to be opened up’ said one protester in her car. ‘We’re tired of not being able to buy the things that we need, go to the hairdressers....
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[16-Apr-20 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I loved that one comment on this


[16-Apr-20 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
'Put down your guns people, you make it worse for all of us, they'll make us look like extremists'


[16-Apr-20 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
now the Trumpists get to experience how does it feel to be on the _opposite_ side of the smear campaing due to a handful of nuts :wheeze:


[16-Apr-20 07:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it was amusing to see at least some people have seen this coming, too.


[16-Apr-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
smash cut to a week later when atleast half the group is in the fucking hospital for being morons


[16-Apr-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Benfogle/status/1250771614825938944?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Some of the responses seem pretty mean spirited to a well intentioned idea from a 9 year old. I have always taught my children to be kind and thoughtful. We watched the speech with 24 million other people and Iona thought it would be a nice way to say thank you. Kindness matt...
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[16-Apr-20 07:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> The SBA has processed more than 14 years' worth of loans in less than 14 days, and is now about to hit its $349 billion lending limit.
this is going to sound ignorant, but I thought they were unlimited printing money?


[16-Apr-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not for small businesses and people


[16-Apr-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Infinite money is for the CARES act stuff


[16-Apr-20 08:12 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[16-Apr-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/trump-next-propaganda-misinformation-war-coronavirus-death-toll-motality.html

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Trump’s Next Propaganda War: Who Gets Counted in the Coronavirus De...
Trump will need a simple metric to recast his coronavirus performance as an unqualified success.
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[16-Apr-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1250806670151823361

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Biden on if he can reach Trump's base: "Probably not" https://t.co/ZZgTIW61nL
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[16-Apr-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa Biden :communism:


[16-Apr-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
Is trump's base even reachable by anyone not GOP?


[16-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
no.


[16-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
alternate reality.


[16-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
fuck if I know what happens if it all comes crashing down for them


[16-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
your very own domestic North Korea


[16-Apr-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And that right there is why I'm pretty sure this country has yee'd its last haw because the *effective* means of removing Trump and his allies from power will be seen as a coup and they'll be made martyrs and the *legal* means are either too gradual or have been declawed to the point that when one falls, three more shall rise to take his place


[16-Apr-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the cancer's metastasized. We're the baddies now


[16-Apr-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least as far as trump supporters are concerned


[16-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's supporters can see the election as illegitimate all they want, it doesn't matter.


[16-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will get taken out of office and Biden will hav him in jail.


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The calvacade of uncoveries of crimes by him will drown out most of the whining.


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden will immediately give a speech about "it's time to move on and work together"


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but his message won't match what his administration *does*.


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We need to heal the fractures"


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll put in place whoever the party wants


[16-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
and the party wants people who, you know, care about the law


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
that will almost immediately lead to Trump in cuffs.


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden can try to order them to stop, but it'd be political suicide.


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, that the Democrats put Biden in the candidacy and did everything to maintain him in the lead is a solid counterargument to that


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Congress would be unhappy with him and so would voters, he'd be single-term even harder)


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Don't be so optimistic, bud


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden isn't one to often break the law


[16-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's *tolerable* to the establishment.


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He is one to compromise with law breakers though


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but the people he'd put in the DoJ wouldn't be.


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And other sorts of lawful yet nefarious people


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden has no teeth


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't need teeth.


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He has dentures!

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[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The DoJ needs teeth


[16-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dems in the Senate will be absolutely demanding it has such


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they'll be investigating Barr like crazy.


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
All Biden needs to do is not throw his limp body in the way.


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Since he's a puppet of the party, he probably won't.


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember, Biden has compromised with white supremacists and force-birthers in the past


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll make big speeches about togetherness while the party tears Trump a new asshole.


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
okay but it doesn't mean he will now


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He will do it again


[16-Apr-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is a puppet.


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is not going to stop the party.


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden compromises because that's what the people who hold his strings want most of the time.


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They no longer want that.


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not like the party would actually care about reform if it got in power anyway


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, his political positions are Democrat lawmaker average.


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about reform


[16-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
throwing Trump in jail isn't reform


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's about airing the dirty laundry to make sure voters vote Democrat


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*But the dirty laundry extends to the DNC too*


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine a story literally every week about a new crime uncovered, for the entirety of 2022


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but that dirty laundry won't be aired.


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's role is to keep the DoJ from investigating too close to the DNC


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
while it tears apart the shit Trump did.


[16-Apr-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention how the moderate democrats have almost zero control over the general discourse in the US. All they can convince are the urbanite liberals.


[16-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the case


[16-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hardliners on either side are beyond convincing.


[16-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only ones you ever convince are the undecideds days before the election


[16-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're the 10% that decides whether it's 55-45 your way or the other way.


[16-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primary way to convince them is to air dirty laundry on your opponent to show bad motives.


[16-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why Trump won against Hillary.


[16-Apr-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
and it's why Trump will lose to Biden.


[16-Apr-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[16-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You announce reopening an investigation people are convinced found bad things on one of the candidates days before the election, they lose.


[16-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Dems will tear out the Trump stuff and start investigating.


[16-Apr-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think you underestimage how often we're all going to hear "Hunter Biden" and "Tara Reade" namedropped as we near November


[16-Apr-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly? A vote in the US is as much worth as an used roll of toilet paper by now. The only way to fix the country would be through the populace openly threatening the politicians and the rich with the guillotine.


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus *every* misstep and unpopular policy during Obama's presidency be blamed on Joe


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh we'll hear plenty of namedrops


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they won't hav good enuff impact


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has so much obvious dirt that Biden's dirt is pitiful.


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No institutional means can solve any of this. The rot is way too deep by now; Trump and Barr are a symptom, not the disease itself.


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You seem awfully optimistic for someone that lives in the US


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even the conspiracy theory stuff if forced to be a proper investigation wouldn't sway independents.


[16-Apr-20 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie Nebbie


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not optimism, it's just that we're going to get another corrupt president with a different name.


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The republicans are skilled at making mountains out of molehills for the populace


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he'll be more of a puppet.


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember all that Benghazi bullshit, for example?


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only return to normalcy possible is because Dems in the Senate will be yelling, with Bernie among them.


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, half that fails.


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Benghazi didn't work nearly as well as "but her emails"


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was no normalcy


[16-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There has never been "normalcy"


[16-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Normalcy is sit down, shut up, let the racist train continue, but dogwhistle for it.


[16-Apr-20 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
America is NOT a normal country. It's a rotten, economically cocaine-dependant zombie nation.


[16-Apr-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
(as opposed to Trump yelling that everything's a hoax)


[16-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only possible operation to save the patient, that is the country, is to put it to death.


[16-Apr-20 10:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Abolish the United States, tear down the borders, unite it with the rest of the American continent, institute mutual aid instead of money making as an economic guiding principle and persecute the now dispossessed conservatives with brutal resolve. That is, downright executing every GOP politician there is.


[16-Apr-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It might not happen in our lifetime, but i've become deeply convinced that mass, organized violent revolution the only way to actually make the pursuit of public happiness, as delineated by the US constitution, a reality.


[16-Apr-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i'm afraid people will only begin seeing that as a viable course of action once generalized socioeconomic misery consolidates within the US.


[16-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[16-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even understand what this Pebblepunt is trying to say.


[16-Apr-20 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[16-Apr-20 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Any cursory glance at what Murican christians say is enough to disprove that comic


[16-Apr-20 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatives don't care about facts, all they care about is a conjured version of reality in which they are right


[16-Apr-20 10:44 PM] jlun2#8758
> orderliness
uh....if they're all white and male maybe. as soon as a women or minority appears they (the white men) **all **go reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


[16-Apr-20 10:45 PM] jlun2#8758
like some physical law


[16-Apr-20 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That, or argue for seizing the means of production


[16-Apr-20 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Regular Muricans go nuts every time someone does that iirc


[16-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well the artist is a "socialism, but only for white people" believer so


[16-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
http://www.propublica.org/article/us-emergency-medical-stockpile-funding-unprepared-coronavirus

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http://www.propublica.org/article/us-emergency-medical-stockpile-funding-unprepared-coronavirus
How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical…
Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.
https://assets-c3.propublica.org/images/articles/_1200x630_crop_center-center_82_none/20200403-us-medical-stockpile-1200x630.jpg?mtime=1585941055


[16-Apr-20 10:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what kind of evangelical christian would ever agree with him?


[16-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That or "absolute monarchy, but white regular people get all the benefits too"


[16-Apr-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking both genders, or 99% white male and maybe some scraps for women?


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
> Had Congress kept funding at the 2010 level through the end of the Obama administration, the stockpile would have benefited from $321 million more than it ended up getting, according to budget documents reviewed by ProPublica. During the Trump administration, Congress started giving the stockpile more than the White House requested.


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
thanks obama


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine imperial Germany, but all white people are treated like barons


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservatism is never a coherent ideology, the only coherence it ever has is on the issue of hipocrisy


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At one moment the GOP endorses and is endorsed by the KKK, and then some days later tries to connect with African-American leaderships


[16-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Easiest way to describe him is Strasserist


[16-Apr-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their only interest is money


[16-Apr-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That selfish, perpetual desire for the green paper


[16-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pebblepunt is basically "Government should be big to help white men"


[16-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think that comic is saying satanists are overreacting to christians being good and kind etc.


[16-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
when actually, hilariously, the satanist is correct.


[16-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Satanism only exists because of evangelical Christianity in the US.


[16-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy on the bench most likely thinks "order" means killing blakk people.


[16-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not technically a "real" religion


[16-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stonetoss knows what satanists say, but doesn't understand that it's correct.


[16-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss thinks an atheist would get mad at someone saying the Koran/Talmud is fiction, but not the Bible.


[16-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He also got mad at Piss Christ.


[16-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Very similar setup to this one


[16-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Atheist in a fedora standing in front of Piss Christ and says "Heh dumb Christians I bet you feel owned" or something like that


[16-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss' self insert puts a menorah in it and the atheist freaks out.


[16-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess the idea is "Atheists are fakes because they will fight against Christianity, but never against Islam or Judaism"


[16-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
In his mind they're just race traitors.


[16-Apr-20 11:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> "Government should be big to help white men"
I read fanfic of mlp verse in some ways like that, but so far none of them get completed


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who sided with THE OTHER etc.


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Piss Christ is also a really, really good commentary if you actually listen to the artist.


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He is a lifelong Catholic.


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The piece is commentary on his perceived cheapening of his faith.


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He intentionally chose a cheap souvenir crucifix and used his own urine.


[16-Apr-20 11:02 PM] jlun2#8758
I only saw the pic, and probably like most ppl not the article


[16-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"This is what I think of people who make my faith about profit" basically


[16-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's also this.

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[16-Apr-20 11:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wut


[16-Apr-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
I feel like if I look at his comics too long I'll start becoming nazi.


[16-Apr-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
and I'm not even white


[16-Apr-20 11:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically both are lol


[16-Apr-20 11:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 that's why you back your interpretation of them with facts at hand


[16-Apr-20 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like how the vast majority of terrorism in the US today is perpetrated by white supremacists and ultranationalists


[16-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
@jlun2 You can achieve the same effect by searching for explicit images under the Aryanne tag


[16-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:twismug:


[16-Apr-20 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/alfred_twu/status/1250854437003788289

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Alfred Twu (@alfred_twu)
https://twitter.com/alfred_twu/status/1250854437003788289
Day 4.  Midwest coordination expands, and western states and the Navajo Nation announce three overlapping sets of coordination.  Details in thread. 1/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVvtb9bUYAAwMgz.jpg:large
Twitter


[16-Apr-20 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443351488069369856/700451716545380543/unknown.png

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[16-Apr-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru That's why I avoid the hell out of the tag, even if it matches my fetishes

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[16-Apr-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where were you when the US split into 3 super-states


[16-Apr-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't most of the recent art with that tag her getting zeebed/domed?


[16-Apr-20 11:22 PM] ononim#8141
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 like to charge reblog to cast


[16-Apr-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Where were you when the US split into 3 super-states
@Teaspoon 

Broke: Where were you when the US split into three or four super-states.
Woke: Where were you when the US literally became Fallout.


[16-Apr-20 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Nobody:


[16-Apr-20 11:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Absolutely Nobody:


[16-Apr-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Brazil:

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[16-Apr-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-say-stimulus-relief-checks-payments-sent-wrong-bank-accounts-2020-4

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https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-say-stimulus-relief-checks-payments-sent-wrong-bank-accounts-2020-4
Some Americans are saying their stimulus checks were sent to the wr...
If you are expecting a payment check the IRS portal "Get My Payment" and verify with your bank that the payment was deposited.
https://i.insider.com/5e987ddb92e8ba69fe7f69a5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Apr-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mnuchin-criticized-seemingly-suggesting-stimulus-checks-could-last-10-weeks-2020-4

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https://www.businessinsider.com/mnuchin-criticized-seemingly-suggesting-stimulus-checks-could-last-10-weeks-2020-4
People are slamming Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for appearing...
The Trump appointee likely referred to the entire $2 trillion relief package passed in March, but other lawmakers were quick to pile on.
https://i.insider.com/5e98886973d0c872d12fcd2f?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Apr-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/8lnf11f416t41.jpg

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[17-Apr-20 12:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "GOP"?


[17-Apr-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Grand Old Party


[17-Apr-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
the Republicans


[17-Apr-20 12:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh... Nice name


[17-Apr-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Geriatric Oligarchist Party


[17-Apr-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Remember when the Republican Party included in its ranks actual Marxists and European socialists.


[17-Apr-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Pepperidge Farms remembers.


[17-Apr-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
We need to restore this Grand Old Party.


[17-Apr-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make Marx prints in Republican papers again!


[17-Apr-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
the republican party used to be the leftist party


[17-Apr-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/shameful-with-blessing-from-trump-treasury-big-bank-seizes-coronavirus-relief-payments-from-veterans/

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‘Shameful’: With blessing from Trump Treasury, big bank seizes coro...
“USAA is confiscating the emergency $1,200 coronavirus checks from veterans and military families who have debt, leaving us struggling to survive during this crisis. This is absolutely unacceptable.” The Treasury Department last week gave U.S. financial institutions the go-ahe...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/CNN_12-17-2017_09.08.48.jpg


[17-Apr-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2020/04/16/usaa-will-stop-seizing-troops-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-after-public-outcry/

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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2020/04/16/usaa-will-stop-seizing-troops-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-after-public-outcry/
USAA will stop seizing troops’ coronavirus stimulus checks after pu...
The financial services firm had taken some payouts to cover existing debts, but promised on Thursday to stop that practice.
https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/vDQ3SubKasJQSyyxbFx8BkvtMcs=/1200x630/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5QHECKG6NNHQZKQU4UVTGDB73M.jpg


[17-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"But we're not going to give back the money we already took. Also fuck the poor."


[17-Apr-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
banks deserve to die


[17-Apr-20 12:54 AM] illumnious#7938
SPORTS


[17-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-will-start-notifying-users-who-interact-coronavirus-misinformation-n1185146

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Facebook will start steering users who interact with coronavirus mi...
The move by Facebook is just the most recent step in an aggressive and coordinated response by it and other tech companies to promote facts and guidance from reputable sources.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_06/2878756/190531-facebook-mc-1420_f639f66c650025e6a1878b44481e1754.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.JPG


[17-Apr-20 12:58 AM] illumnious#7938
waaaaaaa


[17-Apr-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
they said they're gonna pay back what they already took @Marukomuru


[17-Apr-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
>  Following criticism over its handling of federal emergency payouts related to the coronavirus outbreak, the military-focused financial company USAA announced Thursday it will no longer seize customers’ checks to cover existing debts and will refund any past such actions.


[17-Apr-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493222-trump-guidelines-reopening-economy-to-let-governors-make-final-decision

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Trump guidelines on reopening economy to let governors make final d...
President Trump on Thursday unveiled guidance for a phased reopening of parts of the U.S. economy that leaves the final decisions up to governors, according to a copy of the guidelines obtained by The Hill.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_041620getty.jpg


[17-Apr-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any reasonable governor wouldn't consider opening until at least June.


[17-Apr-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And only if adequate testing (or an adequate enough proper *sample* to extrapolate from) were performed to show that even the slightest easing up on restrictions won't result in the second boss phase


[17-Apr-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, it'll still happen


[17-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll happen even if we reopen in August


[17-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/700480920444076122/g1pygzl5i8t41.jpg

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[17-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
yikes


[17-Apr-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure if satire


[17-Apr-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/its-a-mystery-conservative-wonders-why-coronavirus-truthers-never-blame-trump-for-anything/

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‘It’s a mystery’: Conservative wonders why coronavirus truthers nev...
Many right-wing media outlets — from Fox News to white AM talk radio — have promoted a great deal of misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, which radio host Rush Limbaugh infamously compared to “the common cold.” But not only all right-wing media outlets have downplaye...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-18-at-11.27.56-AM.png


[17-Apr-20 02:09 AM] xbi#0900
@byte[] I am very sad that offering some ideas (maybe not working or stupid) is so irritating for you.


[17-Apr-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I told you that we can't do anything about it


[17-Apr-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
please stop bothering me


[17-Apr-20 02:09 AM] jlun2#8758
wrong channel?


[17-Apr-20 02:11 AM] xbi#0900
muted at support channel where I tried to suggest possible ideas to avoid capchas taking minutes to complete 😦  Well, things can be more complicated than my knowlege about the situation, but still 'piss off' with muting is quite harsh as responce to user complaint about unusally long capcha and (possibly naive) ideas how to make capcha not so long  😦


[17-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Sometimes even good captchas can just decide to say "Fuck You" every so often.


[17-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"Select all images with bikes"
>\*selects all images with bikes\*
>"lol do it again"


[17-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony: ❓


[17-Apr-20 02:16 AM] xbi#0900
now select trains. now buses. now trains again. now trains. now bikes , and bikes. Well, I understand the capcha presence, but why make it so long.


[17-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you have an issue with it, contact Cloudflare


[17-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"hey cloudflare can you fix your captchas also give 8chan their protection back"


[17-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Guys Cloudflare isn't answering my e-mails for some reason


[17-Apr-20 02:24 AM] xbi#0900
@byte[] could you don't give ~~mortal execution~~ muting to the first user who gives feedback about Cloudfare captcha problem


[17-Apr-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
you are by far not the first, and you have a history


[17-Apr-20 02:25 AM] xbi#0900
Seems Ralek has similar problem :shrugpony: ok


[17-Apr-20 02:28 AM] xbi#0900
The problem not in the capcha, it presents for several days. The problem is it very hard and long to complete _today_.


[17-Apr-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's really unfortunate


[17-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go complain to Cloudflare


[17-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or give us a million bucks to build the infrastructure required to not need them


[17-Apr-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/493253-trump-faces-roadblocks-with-threat-to-adjourn-congress

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Trump faces roadblocks with threat to adjourn Congress
President Trump's threat to adjourn Congress so he could force through dozens of nominations is quickly hitting steep roadblocks that make the plan all but guaranteed not to happen.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_041620upi.jpg


[17-Apr-20 02:37 AM] xbi#0900
And yes, I have history of hiding pictures with my OC or edits of my pics i don't like. Why not to share my experience with other users. As an artist/as a user, not staff. Staff usually gives advice "report to delete" or "sorry, we can't help", while I have working solutions i use better then "nothing" or "delete".


[17-Apr-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
because your solutions are blatantly against the rules


[17-Apr-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
"solutions"


[17-Apr-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
you cannot in fact just delete tags you "don't want" off of images


[17-Apr-20 02:40 AM] xbi#0900
Deciding is this picture with my or  OC not, or tag like `artist:xbi edits` is hardly against the rules. Or mention that rips from the show are allowed when vector traces require asking tracers opinion seems to be the rule, not break of the rule. @byte[] Am I allowed to decide if picture character design correpspods to my design? "nooo this bunnycorn ears are too short". Is it better to delete image than change my own artist tag to anonymous or `xbi edits' ?


[17-Apr-20 02:47 AM] xbi#0900
And I can't pass the capcha again. I should take a rest from internet.


[17-Apr-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/493264-ohio-governor-announces-state-economy-to-open-may-1

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Ohio governor announces state economy to begin process of opening M...
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) announced Thursday that the state economy will begin the process of reopening on May 1.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dewinemike_01232019getty.jpg


[17-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*here we go*


[17-Apr-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/493262-ex-company-vp-accused-of-sabotaging-shipment-of-ppe

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Ex-company VP accused of sabotaging shipment of PPE
A former vice president for a medical packaging company is accused of sabotaging the shipment of personal protective equipment, officials said Thursday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/policelinetape11032017getty_1.jpg


[17-Apr-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/coronavirus-trump-masks-contracts-prices/2020/04/15/9c186276-7f20-11ea-8de7-9fdff6d5d83e_story.html


[17-Apr-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Apr-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Apr-20 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"panthera" is the name of a pretty okay band but "panthera worldwide LLC" is an *immediate* red-flag villainous company name


[17-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Paladin Inc.", "Valhalla GmbH", "Plus Ultra SA." etc


[17-Apr-20 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
heck, *anything* "worldwide llc" is sufficiently shady enough to be investigated as a tax haven


[17-Apr-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pandora Inc


[17-Apr-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Already gives off "evil corporation" vibes


[17-Apr-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best are companies that are like "Ultimate Industries PLC"


[17-Apr-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're, like, a green pea canning company


[17-Apr-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or fridge delivery service


[17-Apr-20 04:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Those are great


[17-Apr-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
OMEGA BOSS INDUSTRIES


[17-Apr-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
sells peanuts etc.


[17-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe the name is just expressing their worker exploitation power level.


[17-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's about the Omega-3 fatty acids, ofc


[17-Apr-20 04:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SOFA KING


[17-Apr-20 04:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just for the puns


[17-Apr-20 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-to-be-released-from-prison-early-coronavirus-2020-4

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[17-Apr-20 07:07 AM] illumnious#7938
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Looking forward to seeing Dr. Phil working in an ICU. https://t.co/a2wrJztQZj
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[17-Apr-20 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Dr Phil You're Ugly, You're Disgusting, I'm Gonna Kill You, Give Me...
Oof

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[17-Apr-20 07:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, dr.phil is one of those people


[17-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1250916870955433984

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NEW: In the coming weeks and months, Democrats plan to argue Trump "rolled over" for China as the coronavirus crisis worsened because "he sought a deal to begin undoing the damage caused by his trade policies," per a new memo reviewed by Axios.
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[17-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[17-Apr-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they think going CHINA CHINA CHINA is really Trump's best move and that they need to counter it by going "what about Trump's good treatment of China"?


[17-Apr-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's retarded.


[17-Apr-20 09:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's more trying to harness some racism.


[17-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean


[17-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
if anything's reaching Trumpets, this is it.


[17-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
claiming he's betraying The People.


[17-Apr-20 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's shitty but what else is there to do?


[17-Apr-20 09:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've heard worse ideas


[17-Apr-20 09:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but this is *still* on the level of, at the height of the Iraq war, suggesting that we kidnap Saddam Hussein, give him gender reassignment surgery, and release him back into society without a burqa


[17-Apr-20 09:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
completely inappropriate, 100% chance of backfire, but boy it made a nice fantasy for the people who suggested it


[17-Apr-20 10:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am so fucking tired of "country/culture = race"


[17-Apr-20 10:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like for fuck's sake


[17-Apr-20 10:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One should be able to say "India is an absolute shithole and it's beyond comprehension they still have a caste system" without some god damned loser going "MMM, THAT'S RACIST!"


[17-Apr-20 10:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"China is an autocratic nightmare dedicated to gross expansion and control run my a someone with an ego so frail he sends people to prison for liking the wrong cartoon show" isn't a fucking racist statement


[17-Apr-20 10:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is their "sacred cow" lol.


[17-Apr-20 11:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[17-Apr-20 11:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is that a meme or sth


[17-Apr-20 11:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Must be trolls or idiots


[17-Apr-20 11:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[17-Apr-20 11:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So, why is "currently hospitalized" in new york 1000 less yesterday while they get more than 8000 new cases?


[17-Apr-20 11:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
8505 new cases, 659 death, 592 recovered, but used hospital beds are 962 less


[17-Apr-20 11:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only 3.4% newly infected are hospitalized


[17-Apr-20 11:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Where did the remained 96.6% infected go?!


[17-Apr-20 11:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They did not have medical insurance? Or either staying at home?


[17-Apr-20 11:34 AM] Opponent#3498
light cases?


[17-Apr-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the more credible accounts I've seen placed hospitalisation odds at about 20% of people with symptoms


[17-Apr-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
and not everyone infected have any symptoms at all


[17-Apr-20 02:05 PM] surreal#7093
@Teaspoon glad to see someone who is based as fuck around here


[17-Apr-20 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/london-police-ignore-social-distancing-westminster-bridge-applause-2020-4

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[17-Apr-20 02:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
6 feet?


[17-Apr-20 02:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
1m is recommended in metric system countries


[17-Apr-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
6 feet is a bit excessive yeah


[17-Apr-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-task-force-mitt-romney-only-gop-senator-excluded-2020-4

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[17-Apr-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493294-coronavirus-cases-in-dc-area-double-to-20000-in-one-week

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Coronavirus cases in DC, Maryland and Virginia double to 20,000 in ...
The number of coronavirus cases in Washington, D.C, Maryland and Virginia has doubled to 20,000 cases in a week, according to information reported by their health departments Thursday evening.
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[17-Apr-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493279-whitmer-says-protestors-irresponsible-actions-can-lead-to-extension-of

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Whitmer says protesters' 'irresponsible actions' can lead to extens...
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[17-Apr-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make stupid demands, get longer extensions


[17-Apr-20 04:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-us-intelligence-challenge-coronavirus-coverup

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[17-Apr-20 04:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I love the spin here


[17-Apr-20 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"China impeded US Intelligence efforts"
aka
"China caught a bunch of our spies and double agents illegally operating to undermine their country"


[17-Apr-20 04:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conflating country with race is kind of to be expected with how dumb most people are, especially in a world where it's a novel idea to *not* keep a country one race+religion+language and oppress any others that make their way in.


[17-Apr-20 04:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, India is trying to eliminate its main unusual religious minority from existence.


[17-Apr-20 04:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do remember as well, India also used to be merged with Pakistan and Bangladesh, and separated from them over religion.


[17-Apr-20 04:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also *really hard* to justify *anything* with country borders once actually going "yeah all people are equal". Like, if two people are equal, one from within the country, and one from without, how do you justify letting one in and the other not?


[17-Apr-20 04:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately you kind of do need to specify on things you're talking about the country's gov't or its situation and *not* its people or blaming its people or at least not blaming them because of race, and when people are appealing to conservatives, they're going to deliberately be vague with the hopes of gaining conservative support without losing liberals by letting each interpret as they wish.


[17-Apr-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
```especially in a world where it's a novel idea to not keep a country one race+religion+language and oppress any others that make their way in.```


[17-Apr-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
you mean literally the way Europe was living for probably a millenia or so, before WW1 and it's wonderful 'self-determination' drive


[17-Apr-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
it's adorable how fixated you are on the race, racism, racial equality etc


[17-Apr-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Apr-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[17-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```It's also really hard to justify anything with country borders once actually going "yeah all people are equal".```


[17-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
it's actually trivial, watch.


[17-Apr-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
while YOU may believe all people are equal, your enemies do not and would not.


[17-Apr-20 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
you might let them in. They'll murder you in your sleep, usurp the nation and enslave your own, because they're far less naive about the whole thing.


[17-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
unless _everyone at once_ believes all people are equal, borders are meaningless, all resources are to be shared in peace and not hoarded etc, any single entity suddenly deciding to embrace this idea faces extinction.


[17-Apr-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and I haven't mentioned _race_ a single time.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, France for example had a whole other language over near its border with Spain...that it was actively suppressing.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
and it wasn't about the race.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
or even culture.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And WWI had Austria-Hungary's inclusive empire...that was literally where minority oppression caused the spark.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
religion maybe.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
>language


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
>not culture


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like immigrant crisis in EU


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
culture is far more than language.


[17-Apr-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
still not a race though.


[17-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you're using the fallacy that I can base anything off of an aspect of culture, but that that's not culture


[17-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
cool


[17-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
also on minority oppression in Austria-Hungary, there's always someone feeling oppressed somewhere. Since the dawn of time probably.


[17-Apr-20 05:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I guess if I specify that we should stop those Texans from doing everything except the one final piece of their culture, I'm not targeting culture etc. etc.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
early 20th century was the time where people like that got active.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it backfired really damn hard :D


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the classic "they're just FEELING oppressed, didn't really happen"


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
mixed with a bit of IT'S NATURAL GUYS


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, well my entire point was that it tends to happen historically.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it IS statistically normal. Never claimed anything about natural.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're not arguing against my point.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're arguing that you can semantics out of it being a problem.


[17-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
your point is built on fine sand and is impossible to argue against.


[17-Apr-20 05:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
When my point wasn't even that it's a problem.


[17-Apr-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it has no foundation to pick apart


[17-Apr-20 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Apr-20 06:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He can't be reasoned with


[17-Apr-20 06:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
I shall liberate Michigan


[17-Apr-20 06:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Michigan Communist Militia time

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[17-Apr-20 07:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is Trump calling for a literal insurrection?


[17-Apr-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds liek it


[17-Apr-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cant control the governors so he's egging his followers to cause armed insurrection


[17-Apr-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Implying a drove of obese boomers can form a proper army


[17-Apr-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe not a proper army, but a chaotic mess of a mob with guns firing everywhere, sure


[17-Apr-20 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
really what he wants is a mindless fearful herd who stampedes in the direction he tells them guns blazing


[17-Apr-20 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweets-to-liberate-michigan-minnesota-as-protesters-violate-orders-2020-4

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[17-Apr-20 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Apr-20 07:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dr Phil should give himself the L now.


[17-Apr-20 07:26 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
> The more history I read the less confidence I have in Americans
> we have always been an incredibly stupid population
> The book I'm reading now is talking about efforts in the late 1800's and early 1900's to set up public universities
> and have those universities scientifically study agriculture to develop the best farming methods possible
> First rural Americans tried to get the programs defunded
> then they accused the professors of being liberal elites
> and refused to accept the scientific methods developed
> or stop growing crops they were told would not be profitable or sustainable
> it took a depression and a massive PR campaign to drill it into their heads that these programs were in their best interests
> Even then many people still refused to listen
> Attempts to promote environmental sustainability and cut back on pollution were denounced as communism


[17-Apr-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
from another server


[17-Apr-20 07:54 PM] ononim#8141
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[17-Apr-20 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[17-Apr-20 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They were selling the communist manifesto


[17-Apr-20 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty capitalist thing to do =p


[17-Apr-20 08:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Somebody please kill me

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[17-Apr-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Dafuk


[17-Apr-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox is sucking dick extra hard to compete with oann apparently


[17-Apr-20 08:13 PM] ononim#8141

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[17-Apr-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
> fox is sucking dick extra hard to compete with oann apparently
@prism stryder(intexda)  ha! Both are shit anyways. The only thing what both news networks got in common is that they support President asshant Trump


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[17-Apr-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-convinces-some-americans-to-turn-to-bikes-2020-4

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[17-Apr-20 08:20 PM] illumnious#7938
*hissing noises*


[17-Apr-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetz-paid-taxpayer-funds-to-friend-donor-politico-2020-4

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GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz may have violated House rules by shelling out $...
Rep. Matt Gaetz's rental agreement with the donor, Collier Merrill, appears to violate House rules.
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[17-Apr-20 08:23 PM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Apr-20 08:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks


[17-Apr-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fema-paid-bankrupt-company-no-employees-55-million-n95-masks-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

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The Trump administration paid a bankrupt company with zero employee...
FEMA told Insider it "does not enter into contracts unless it has reason to believe they will be successfully executed."
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[17-Apr-20 08:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh


[17-Apr-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so not only are they a company that doesn't make masks, the blurb about what the company *actually* does makes it sound like they're a private mercenary group


[17-Apr-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
pretty sure I watched this movie at 3AM in a hotel room


[17-Apr-20 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
dumbass moments #124


[17-Apr-20 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
in other news https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/how-embarrassing-trump-threatens-to-go-full-dictator-but-cant-even-manage-to-do-that-right/

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I have a confession. Very recently — like maybe two days ago — I had mostly stopped watching Donald Trump’s daily coronavirus briefings, even though it’s my job. (Please, don’t tell the boss.) I watch until I get to the point where I have to either turn off the TV or resort to...
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[17-Apr-20 08:33 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEZE


[17-Apr-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he;s trying to amass an armed force on twitter, yeah, i;m sure that will go real well once police get involved


[17-Apr-20 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/493355-laurence-tribe-roasted-for-advocating-herd-immunity-for-coronavirus-you-go

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Laurence Tribe roasted for advocating herd immunity on coronavirus:...
Harvard Law School Professor Laurence Tribe faced blowback on social media Friday after advocating that a large portion of the population will “need to be exposed” and die from coronavirus in order to put an end to the crisis.
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[17-Apr-20 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938
OOF


[17-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh man the tweets in response


[17-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> *Medical experts say <10% of those infected are known to have developed antibodies. Herd immunity needs >50%.*


[17-Apr-20 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's grim


[17-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also I love the line at the very end of the article


[17-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Tribe has taught at Harvard Law School since 1968 and was a mentor to former President Obama when he was a student there in the late '80s and early '90s.


[17-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Literally just "BTW OBAMA"


[17-Apr-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251169987110330372

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!
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[17-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Has Trump even ever shot a gun?


[17-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like I haven't seen even political ads showing him with one


[17-Apr-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
chicken


[17-Apr-20 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
actually no


[17-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
I own a gun. I have fired it. I have fired other guns. I am considering an Armalite. Why? I watched a video on the SA80 and as an expensive investment of a meme I want the gun that'll exterminate the British


[17-Apr-20 08:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Me little Armi-lite


[17-Apr-20 08:56 PM] illumnious#7938
but there is an article about trump lies https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50338937

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What happened to Trump's promise on gun control?
Trump said he wanted to impose stricter gun laws but then he quietly dropped the plans.
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[17-Apr-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They've all got so many guns and want to die


[17-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
@ononim, is that gorbachev?


[17-Apr-20 09:08 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow brezhnev


[17-Apr-20 09:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Trump has said in the past he owns his own firearm. not sure if he's ever used it


[17-Apr-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theledger.com/news/20200416/court-rules-stand-your-ground-applies-in-florida-mans-case-in-deputy-shooting

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Court rules 'Stand Your Ground' applies in Florida man's case in de...
A Fifth District Court of Appeals ruling means a Port St. John man will not face prosecution in connection with shooting of a Brevard County deputy
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[17-Apr-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
> Citing the ‘Stand Your Ground,’ law, the Fifth District Court of Appeals dismissed the longstanding charges against a Port St. John man accused of shooting a Brevard County Sheriff’s deputy during a botched arrest in front of his home in 2015.
> 
> The decision — issued Wednesday — ends the prosecution of John DeRossett, 60, on the attempted premeditated first-degree murder of a law enforcement officer while discharging a firearm. DeRossett spent nearly five years at the Brevard County Jail Complex in Sharpes as he awaited a trial. He was allowed to leave on bond in March.
> 
> “The appellate decision is better than a jury acquittal. An acquittal only means ‘not guilty.’ This order means that John is innocent, that his actions were justified, and that he never should have been arrested in the first place. It’s a total vindication,” said DeRossett’s Orlando-based attorney, Michael Panella.

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[17-Apr-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
> The appellate court found that DeRossett — whose attorney’s argued that he did not know he was firing at deputies — was entitled to protect his home against what he thought was a threat.


[17-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, considering how many cops end up shooting up people they check on for having a barking dog or unmowed lawn...


[17-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basic self defense.


[17-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is amazing.


[17-Apr-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-coronavirus-culture-warriors-are-a-literal-death-cult

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Trump’s Culture Warriors Are a Literal Death Cult Now
In Trumpworld, reopening is just a matter of will. And strength. And devotion to the leader.
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[17-Apr-20 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
lmfao https://www.thedailybeast.com/sen-kelly-loeffler-tells-fox-news-that-criticizing-my-coronavirus-stock-trades-is-a-socialist-attack

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Loeffler to Fox News: Criticizing My Coronavirus Stock Trades Is Ju...
“This is a political attack that is designed to distract from the issue at hand and to use this outbreak to play politics,” she insisted.
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[17-Apr-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
> Loeffler to Fox News: Criticizing My Coronavirus Stock Trades Is Just a ‘Socialist Attack’


[17-Apr-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I as a holy angelic capitalist am allowed to commit literal crimes, Any attack against that is pure socialist sin"


[17-Apr-20 09:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Unapproved Chinese coronavirus antibody tests being used in at least 2 states https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/unapproved-chinese-coronavirus-antibody-tests-being-used-least-2-states-n1185131

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Unapproved Chinese coronavirus tests being used in at least 2 states
Some Chinese-made COVID-19 antibody tests being used in the U.S. were not approved by China's FDA. China has now barred their export.
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[17-Apr-20 09:44 PM] illumnious#7938
gee two


[17-Apr-20 09:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/bizduster/status/1251221658607607809?s=20

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do no harm (@bizduster)
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Bury these grifters in November and LIBERATE THE WHITE HOUSE.
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[17-Apr-20 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/493378-native-american-tribes-sue-feds-over-coronavirus-relief-distribution

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Native American tribes sue feds over coronavirus relief distribution
Several native American tribes filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Treasury Department Friday, arguing that for-profit Alaska Native corporations shouldn't get a share of the $8 billion in federal coronavirus relief for tribes.
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[17-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/493386-california-hospitals-say-elon-musk-sent-them-bipap-cpap-machines-not

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California hospitals say Elon Musk sent them biPAP, CPAP machines, ...
Tesla CEO and founder Elon Musk last month announced that his company purchased 1,255 FDA-approved ventilators from Chinese oversupply and shipped them to hospitals in Los Angeles to help treat COVID-19 patients.
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[17-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
seems like he couldn't believe that ventilators were that expensive and went with what looked like a good alternative that was much cheaper


[17-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
which is a classic in the neoliberal playbook


[17-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
cheap out with what looks like a good alternative that's ultimately useless


[17-Apr-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
The hospitals knew what they were buying though


[17-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not a neoliberal thing


[17-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
it's 'better than nothing'.


[17-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
'less severe patients can use this instead of ventillators'


[17-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
so, serves the same purpose 95% as well


[17-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
(and is cheaper)


[17-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I'm pretty sure he gave them away as charity


[17-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
there was an article from like a week ago that said he said he was gonna donate ventilators to hospitals


[17-Apr-20 11:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> While they do help breathing, biPAPs and CPAPs aren't ventilators and cost significantly less. A single CPAP machine costs about $500, with biPAPs costing about $1,200. However, a ventilator costs between $20,000 and $50,000.
rip


[18-Apr-20 12:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/UNWatch/status/1251233997038006272

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🇨🇳 China blames West for poor response to coronavirus, delaying prevention measures & being unfair to the W.H.O. https://t.co/nodTmRneXL

🇨🇳 China itself covered up the coronavirus, muzzled those trying to sound the alarm & co-opted the W.H.O.
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[18-Apr-20 12:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[18-Apr-20 12:51 AM] jlun2#8758
Christians are zombies confirmed ^ @WiFiWitch


[18-Apr-20 12:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
This zombie apocalypse makes it really easy to aim for the head. 
Aim for the red/head.


[18-Apr-20 01:05 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
:zombieangry:


[18-Apr-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
Today’s episode of welcome to Florida https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8229933/Beaches-Florida-start-reopening-EVENING.html

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Beaches in Florida will start reopening THIS EVENING
Beaches and parks in Jacksonville are set to reopen at 5pm on Friday evening 'with restrictions for essential activities only.'
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[18-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saw a German try to guess the election

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[18-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's a bit pessimistic... Dunno what sort of massive disaster would have to happen in CO for it to flip now


[18-Apr-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is what the election would look like if you believed that the people protesting for governments to repoen *right now* were in the majority


[18-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got this from /pol/, so yes.


[18-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oddly, people there thought my prediction wasn't too far off base, which I suppose means something?


[18-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/world/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll.html

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China Raises Coronavirus Death Toll by 50% in Wuhan
Officials facing skepticism about their credibility also bumped up their tally of infections in the city where the pandemic emerged.
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[18-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Crow#5457
fucking china lmao


[18-Apr-20 01:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52309414
Virus starts in your county. Blame people from other countries. :bigbrain:

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Africans in China: We face coronavirus discrimination
The Guangzhou authorities deny their actions have been racist, but admit that all African nationals have been tested.
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[18-Apr-20 01:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Police forcing them into quarantine hotels then expecting them to pay for the hotels. Not being allowed to enter any shops.
Sad that African countries have to send planes to save people.


[18-Apr-20 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1251260796476305409?s=20

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Jacksonville Beach reopened 26 minutes ago. This is a live picture.
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[18-Apr-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's too bad it takes so long for people to become symptomatic or else the spike in cases in Florida might come in time to discourage other states from trying to do the same thing


[18-Apr-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We've almost hit the 5,000 deaths/day mark


[18-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe we need to hit 10,000


[18-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.techradar.com/news/icann-delays-org-sell-off


[18-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> Ethos Capital has an unusual corporate structure and its purchase of the .org domain involves six different companies that were all registered on the same day back in October of last year.
> The private equity firm has also refused to answer specific questions about its ownership.


[18-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ethos Capital is a funny way of spelling Tencent


[18-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh. A bunch of former ICANN staff. I guess I can take the tinfoil hat off :shrugpony:


[18-Apr-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-is-certain-rallies-will-return-ahead-of-nov-2020-4

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Trump campaign says the president's rallies are 'certain' to return...
Tim Murtaugh, the Trump campaign's director of communications, is more than bullish on rallies making a comeback, at least in "low risk" areas.
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[18-Apr-20 02:16 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1251260796476305409?s=20
@WingbeatPony  what the fuck Florida

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[18-Apr-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is the main reason why we're going to see infection rates that are crazy high in rural areas that compete with infection rates in cities


[18-Apr-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
interactions matter more than population density


[18-Apr-20 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you have a little town of 800 in the middle of nowhere but they all go to church and one of those 800 people recently visited their cousin who had it, guess how long it'll take for that town to be hard-hit


[18-Apr-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so, sure, tourism is down in florida so those are probably mostly local people, but that doesn't matter 'cause it's not just in NY and cali despite the fact that the people on the beach either believe that's only where it is, or that it is all just a hoax


[18-Apr-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there is a 100% chance that someone in this picture has been in direct contact with an infected person


[18-Apr-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
birthday attack


[18-Apr-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
literally


[18-Apr-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/china-raises-coronavirus-death-toll-in-wuhan-by-50-percent/

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China Raises Coronavirus Death Toll in Wuhan By 50 Percent - Baller...
China has revised its official death toll from the coronavirus, raising the number of fatalities att
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[18-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Crow#5457
I just linked an article about that 2 hours ago


[18-Apr-20 03:27 AM] illumnious#7938
Dang


[18-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
```Officials facing skepticism about their credibility also bumped up their tally of infections in the city where the pandemic emerged.```
"Does the esteemed council agree the infidels will believe the numbers more if we raise it a bit?"


[18-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/SRZOh0w.jpg

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The best one from this thread
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[18-Apr-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
> He looks like an NPC from Bioshock infinite


[18-Apr-20 04:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Where can I get paid to be an adult?


[18-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
in commusocialiberalistan


[18-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
they pay everyone to be an adult


[18-Apr-20 05:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51906530

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'The rich are to blame for climate change'
The Leeds University study looked at 86 countries and came to broadly the same conclusions about the rich.
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[18-Apr-20 05:11 AM] Crow#5457
> The wealthiest tenth of people consume about 20 times more energy overall than the bottom ten, wherever they live.
> 
> The gulf is greatest in transport, where the top tenth gobble 187 times more fuel than the poorest tenth, the research says.
> 
> That’s because people on the lowest incomes can rarely afford to drive.
> 
> The researchers found that the richer people became, the more energy they typically use. And it was replicated across all countries.
> 
> And they warn that, unless there's a significant policy change, household energy consumption could double from 2011 levels by 2050. That's even if energy efficiency improves.


[18-Apr-20 05:57 AM] jlun2#8758
as soon as the rich get blamed they're going to start going "climate change is hoax" even more


[18-Apr-20 06:00 AM] illumnious#7938
hmm


[18-Apr-20 06:00 AM] Crow#5457
dude, that's where "climate change is a hoax" originated from


[18-Apr-20 06:01 AM] illumnious#7938
those rich assholes


[18-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Crow#5457
because penalizing their giant multibillion dollar companies for the negative externalities they create would cut into their bottom line


[18-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
they would rather their company make a million dollars more while causing society tens of millions of dollars worth of damage in the form of pollution than spend that relatively smaller extra money preventing the damage


[18-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
and anyone who hasn't tuned into trump's brainwaves realizes the EPA is a nonentity by this point


[18-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
then again, those that have seem to celebrate the destruction of the environment now because trump told them that spending more money to save it is bad


[18-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that nixon, a conservative, formed the EPA


[18-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
he formed it via executive order too


[18-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
it was confirmed in congress later, of course


[18-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
(explicit image) <https://derpibooru.org/images/112912#comment_1901692>


[18-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
this thread got necro'd again lol


[18-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as it's not a drama necro, it's fine


[18-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise we'd just lock comments after 2 months of no replies


[18-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J9jDoaTA @byte[]

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Microsoft Sam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J9jDoaTA
Every Covid-19 Commercial is Exactly the Same
Corporate Covid-19 response videos are eerily similar. *Cue somber piano music*

When a company or brand releases a Coronavirus Response ad, they might tell you that we're living in "uncertain times", but that "we're here for you". They may say their top priority is "people" a...
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[18-Apr-20 06:45 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon  https://youtu.be/AIxY_Y9TGWI

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Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AIxY_Y9TGWI/maxresdefault.jpg


[18-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yeh


[18-Apr-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-financial-crisis-bailouts-us-government-airline-investor-2020-4

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Warren Buffett's financial crisis bailouts inspired the US governme...
Warren Buffett's financial-crisis bailouts inspired a key element of the US government's rescue deals with the 'big four' airlines this week. Th...
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[18-Apr-20 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
```The wealthiest tenth of people consume about 20 times more energy overall than the bottom ten, wherever they live.```
this is kind of useless though.


[18-Apr-20 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
because, well, yeah. A hobo on the street consumes all but no energy.


[18-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the individual consumption is rarely an issue.


[18-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm all for bashing 'the rich', but not when it's clickbait or raw envy put to paper.


[18-Apr-20 01:33 PM] Opponent#3498
```this thread got necro'd again lol```


[18-Apr-20 01:33 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. CBT's stuff didn't really change all that much in 8 years...


[18-Apr-20 02:40 PM] surreal#7093
any nazbols?


[18-Apr-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493465-oregon-governor-issues-order-to-prevent-debt-collectors-from-seizing

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Oregon governor issues order to prevent debt collectors from seizin...
Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) signed an executive order Friday barring debt collectors and creditors from seizing stimulus checks sent to Oregonians under the latest coronavirus relief package.
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[18-Apr-20 02:44 PM] surreal#7093
Cant wait for anarchy


[18-Apr-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/493402-epa-weighs-lifting-ethanol-requirements-for-oil-refiners

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EPA weighs lifting ethanol requirements for oil refiners
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is weighing whether to let oil refineries skip on adding ethanol to their fuels, a move being requested by governors in oil-rich states who say the industry can’t affor
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[18-Apr-20 03:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Apr-20 03:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Meanwhile Chinese protesters: Give me DOGMEAT or give me DEATH!!!


[18-Apr-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile our president is cheering on said protestors and egging them on to shoot up places violently in the name of the 2nd amendment


[18-Apr-20 04:30 PM] RYDE#8862
Well shit.


[18-Apr-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-liberate-tweets-are-hailed-by-far-right-extremists-nbc-2020-4

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A US governor accused Trump of encouraging 'domestic rebellion' aft...
Far-right extremists who advocate violent conflict believe the president is an ally due to his attempts to undermine the coronavirus lockdown.
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[18-Apr-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
what the fuck do you even do if your elected president starts advocating for an anti-government rebellion???


[18-Apr-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Have an anti-government rebellion, of course


[18-Apr-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
You know where to point that thing


[18-Apr-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_compliance

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Malicious compliance
Malicious compliance (also known as malicious obedience) is the behaviour of intentionally inflicting harm by strictly following the orders of a superior while knowing that compliance with the orders will not have the intended result. The term usually implies the following of ...


[18-Apr-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants an anti-government rebellion, and yet he is the government


[18-Apr-20 05:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8227749/China-not-allowing-companies-ship-surgical-masks-coronavirus-test-kits-states.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

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China 'not allowing US companies to ship COVID-19 test kits' to states
The State Department and several businesses told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday that millions of test kits are stranded in warehouses in China, which has so far refused to clear them for export.
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[18-Apr-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
unsuprising


[18-Apr-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
this is why heavily subsidied food production is a thing


[18-Apr-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
as well as other critical materials


[18-Apr-20 05:28 PM] Opponent#3498
yes the market might say 'Nope' right now, but in times of war or any other crisis the nation you might have outsourced your production to might just decide they want to keep it.


[18-Apr-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493466-texans-plan-to-turn-out-saturday-calling-to-reopen-the-country

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Texans plan to turn out Saturday calling to reopen the country
A group of Texans will protest at the Texas state Capitol in Austin on Saturday for a “You Can’t Close America” rally as demonstrators across the country rally against stay-at-home orders and other social distancing measures.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/texas_capitol_austin_458044862.jpg


[18-Apr-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh boy, here comes texas!


[18-Apr-20 06:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[18-Apr-20 06:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Apr-20 06:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The cases in Texas are still exponentially raising, which means it's still the initial phase of the epidemic


[18-Apr-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
Check florida


[18-Apr-20 06:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Apr-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fear for my own state now


[18-Apr-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently NC only has 5,024 cases right now with 108 deaths


[18-Apr-20 06:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Measwhile in the background, France and UK are speeding up


[18-Apr-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully these protests dont start hitting up north carolina or that number is going to rise hard


[18-Apr-20 06:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Apr-20 06:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The line of death is even closer to the line of exponential function


[18-Apr-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently protests have started up in north carolina as well


[18-Apr-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article241999131.html


[18-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
welp


[18-Apr-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2020/04/17/protestors-assemble-in-front-of-new-jersey-statehouse-to-assail-stay-at-home-order-1277524

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Protesters assemble in front of New Jersey Statehouse to assail sta...
The words "No more fear" were audible through a megaphone as a helicopter hovered overhead and law enforcement officers blocked access to the Statehouse parking complex.
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[18-Apr-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and new jersey


[18-Apr-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-host-defends-michigan-protesters-with-confederate-flags-2020-4

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Fox News host defended anti-lockdown protesters who called Michigan...
Protesters — some armed — carried signs calling Gov. Gretchen Whitmer a Nazi as they waved Confederate flags and held Trump 2020 posters.
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[18-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be confusing for the people with thin-blue-line flags or confederate flags to see a sign like that


[18-Apr-20 06:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not physically *possible* for them to be confused


[18-Apr-20 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Their powers of retention are as wet as a warthog's backside

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[18-Apr-20 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Whatever position they're supporting now, that's the position they'll go to their graves defending, even if it wasn't the same as their position yesterday or even tomorrow


[18-Apr-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if *you* hold a position that isn't as starkly black and white as theirs and you dare condition your assessment of a situation on any greater context, they'll accuse *you* of cognitive dissonance


[18-Apr-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
>whitmer a wanna b tyrant

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[18-Apr-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Apr-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/canada-coronavirus-quarantine-rules-punishable-by-750000-fine-trucking-masks-2020-4

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People entering Canada could face a $750,000 fine if they don't qua...
Canada also said it would require people coming on planes to prove they have a mask to cover their nose and mouth.
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[18-Apr-20 07:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
$750000... it will be the income of my family for 150 years


[18-Apr-20 07:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hey, gotta pay off the government subsidies somehow :twismug:


[18-Apr-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no no, they aren't anti-gov't protests


[18-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're anti-state-gov't protests


[18-Apr-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans control the federal gov't, so they want state gov'ts run by Democrats to be abolished.


[18-Apr-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, "state's rights" is complete BS.


[18-Apr-20 08:30 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/700782694099058708/ixEhjCk.png
@byte[] that's him alright

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[18-Apr-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. life is stupid and weird so the protestors end up not getting sick, and everyone else does instead


[18-Apr-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope not :hopeless:


[18-Apr-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump will win this regardless


[18-Apr-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Michigan opens up and there's an explosion of new cases


[18-Apr-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll just blame them for not doing it right


[18-Apr-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forget which state it is but one governor has threatened that if the protests continue, she'll extend the lock down


[18-Apr-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493492-cuomo-signs-executive-order-allowing-new-yorkers-to-obtain-marriage

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Cuomo signs order allowing New Yorkers to obtain marriage licenses ...
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed an executive order Saturday allowing New Yorkers to obtain marriage licenses and perform ceremonies remotely.
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[18-Apr-20 08:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
see *that's* a leader


[18-Apr-20 08:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
see a problem, see that the problem is in your power to fix, fix the problem


[18-Apr-20 08:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
remove just one of any of those elements and you do not have a leader


[18-Apr-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493216-doj-lets-companies-skip-paying-penalties-during-pandemic

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DOJ lets companies skip paying penalties during pandemic
The Department of Justice (DOJ) is giving a temporary pass to companies that are required to make penalty payments to the federal government, citing the financial strain of the coronavirus.
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[18-Apr-20 09:06 PM] Lucky424#1730
https://imgur.com/gallery/1KX0FvH

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[18-Apr-20 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, duh! I thought communal toothbrushes were communism!
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[18-Apr-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
why is it always white people at approx that age being white supremist or anti "commie"


[18-Apr-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is communism!

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[18-Apr-20 09:14 PM] illumnious#7938
oh boy https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251589681428520960

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251589681428520960
China wants Sleepy Joe sooo badly. They want all of those billions of dollars that they have been paying to the U.S. back, and much more. Joe is an easy mark, their DREAM CANDIDATE! https://t.co/vmvCr4SkQq
Twitter


[18-Apr-20 09:14 PM] illumnious#7938
here's the shithead


[18-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[18-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
"race mixing is communism"


[18-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives in the US just call whatever they don't like communism.


[18-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
These people would be protesting desegregation 50 years ago.


[18-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people."


[18-Apr-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Little_Rock_integration_protest.jpg/1200px-Little_Rock_integration_protest.jpg

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[18-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:twithisshit:


[18-Apr-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
Americans sure make the best anti-american propaganda


[18-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.newsweek.com/chile-counts-those-who-died-coronavirus-recovered-because-theyre-no-longer-contagious-health-1497775

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Chile counts those who have died of COVID-19 as recovered because t...
Chile joins Brazil and Peru among the worst-hit countries in South America, having reported over 7,500 cases as of Tuesday.
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[18-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they took the statistical simplification and just declared it to be reality.


[18-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[18-Apr-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/jjonGtrCyVE

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The Onion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjonGtrCyVE
After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early ...
Sources say the screaming orb might be the only potential candidate that would tap into Republicans' deep-seated, seething fury after this election.

Subscribe to The Onion on YouTube: http://bit.ly/xzrBUA
Like The Onion on Facebook: http://www.fb.com/theonion
Follow The Onion...
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[18-Apr-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Simpler times


[18-Apr-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/labor/493215-more-than-3000-coronavirus-related-complaints-filed-with-osha

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More than 3,000 coronavirus-related complaints filed with OSHA
Workers have filed more than 3,000 complaints with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) alleging they were potentially exposed to the novel coronavirus,
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[18-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss when The Onion was funny and not prophetic in hindight

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[18-Apr-20 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Apr-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610

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[18-Apr-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
Will vegans save the planet? No, but eating rich people might


[18-Apr-20 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heifer_International

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Heifer International
Heifer International (also known as Heifer Project International) is a global nonprofit working to eradicate poverty and hunger through sustainable, values-based holistic community development. Heifer distributes animals, along with agricultural and values-based training, to f...


[18-Apr-20 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yay mutual aid


[18-Apr-20 10:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-i-tracked-down-racist-zoombombers-2020-4

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Racist Zoombombers attacked my friends — here's how I tracked the t...
Zoombombing is both a fad and a crime, according to the FBI. But who are the culprits? I took screenshots and pieced together the mystery.
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[18-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.```


[18-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
not almost everything


[18-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Opponent#3498
simply _EVERYTHING_


[18-Apr-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
confederate flags are communist


[18-Apr-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This puts the usual anti-communist discourse in frame because capitalists love to portray communists as lazy and selfish leeches and such


[18-Apr-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind how communists and similar movements have historically done impressive efforts to help the impoverished without demanding a penny from them


[18-Apr-20 10:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
could you cite some examples?


[18-Apr-20 10:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah I'm casting doubt on that statement but not for a lack of examples


[18-Apr-20 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I already did


[18-Apr-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heifer_International

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Heifer International (also known as Heifer Project International) is a global nonprofit working to eradicate poverty and hunger through sustainable, values-based holistic community development. Heifer distributes animals, along with agricultural and values-based training, to f...


[18-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what about further in the past?


[18-Apr-20 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
rather, I think at least one term in that sentence is used incorrectly


[18-Apr-20 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or is being used with a pretty vague definition


[18-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
could you share a couple more examples?


[18-Apr-20 10:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're looking here at the same problem Sanders did in the presidential debates when he brought up Cuba's literacy program


[18-Apr-20 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, yeah, money is a difficult thing to abolish


[18-Apr-20 10:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But there is a thing called mutual aid


[18-Apr-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read up on the Black Panthers, for example


[18-Apr-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They used to offer quite a lot of services for poor black neighborhoods, all of that out of their own voluntary will


[18-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
source please.


[18-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
also "used to"? did they stop doing that?


[18-Apr-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the black panthers stopped being active in 1982


[18-Apr-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5024403/

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Beyond Berets: The Black Panthers as Health Activists
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[18-Apr-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, they were broken apart by COINTELPRO and the FBI


[18-Apr-20 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US has this nasty habit of looking down upon voluntary mutual aid associations and, worse, communist organizations


[18-Apr-20 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And overreacting to their presence


[18-Apr-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the 80's especially had the US leadign a very ;large anti mutual aid campaign


[18-Apr-20 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just think about the connotations that come with bringing up *co-ops* in this country


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
NO COMMIE VEGETABLES


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm pretty sure there was reasons as to why the fbi shut down the black panthers than just "ethnic aid organization"


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even hell's angels were targets


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Think of the many times the "dumb selfless hippie" stereotype has been used in media


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's a state tactic


[18-Apr-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Sunnyside yes, in order to protect themselves and the neighborhoods they served, they had to carry weapons


[18-Apr-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because the police would often harass them


[18-Apr-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One time, a bunch of cops broke into a free breakfast meeting and pissed all over their food


[18-Apr-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Naturally, this creates antagonism and furthers the ACAB sentiment


[18-Apr-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
The FBI shut down the Black Panthers as part of COINTELPRO


[18-Apr-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

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COINTELPRO
COINTELPRO (syllabic abbreviation derived from COunter INTELligence PROgram) (1956–1971) was a series of covert and illegal projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting American p...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/COINTELPRO_-_Jean_Seberg.jpg


[18-Apr-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
this project is about as antidemocratic as you can get


[18-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
do you have an article describing the police doing that to their hearty free breakfast?


[18-Apr-20 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Google it man


[18-Apr-20 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they could shut down the black panthers and it had nothing to do with them being black, then why are the KKK and literal nazi groups still roaming free and just "being monitored"


[18-Apr-20 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We're in the internet


[18-Apr-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not my duty to bring it all up to you


[18-Apr-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everything's already there


[18-Apr-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was entirely because they were black, but the government at the time used recently illegalized drugs, and weapons as a cover to the public


[18-Apr-20 10:19 PM] byte[]#2610
unverified https://twitter.com/nataliesurely/status/1123020732538212353

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Holy shit - I’m researching the Black Panthers’ free breakfast program for a piece. Apparently, the night before the project kicked off in Chicago, cops broke into the church and peed on all the food that was supposed to be served to local kids. What absolute fucking assholes...
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[18-Apr-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
very possible, because police are known to do this, but unverified


[18-Apr-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mind you, police in the US are utterly fucking evil creatures


[18-Apr-20 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're an extension of the capitalist state


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
do you live in the united states?


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i do


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
or been there?


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not relevant to this conversation


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no, i'm just curious.


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If it is, then you have no privilege talking about Venezuela or China


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I live in Brazil


[18-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In a way, it's like a bootleg US politically.


[18-Apr-20 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We got every single social problem the US also has, yet we have no good PR machine to cover these up


[18-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
implying the US has good PR


[18-Apr-20 10:24 PM] ononim#8141
it does


[18-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In a way, it does


[18-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's been eroding severely for these past few years


[18-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the country is still seen as a strong nation


[18-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And not many people have yet begun to question its internal election system


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let it be known that Chad is rising


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
All hail Pax Chadia


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When you don't have much internet and the only news you get is about the US military, aid programs, and their movie industry, US seems like paradise to half the world


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in most surface media, the us is shown off as a city built paradise with lots of beaches where it's easy to strike rich


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AaronMk unironically true, except for another African country, Rwanda


[18-Apr-20 10:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's still better than quite a few places.


[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rwanda's GDP growth's been quite impressive lately, weirdly


[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk unironically true, except for another African country, Rwanda
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

Chad-Rwandan World War. :glowing_eyes:


[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Noooo


[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They'd have to traverse the Congo


[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/20-gop-lawmakers-considering-returning-to-work-early-2020-4

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Nearly 20 Republican lawmakers are considering returning to DC next...
Both the US House and Senate are closed on an extended recess until May 4 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
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[18-Apr-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the Congolese have had enough imo :sad:


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, relevant to before


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://i.redd.it/968wku7jrmg31.jpg

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[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
saying america is better than a few countries is liek saying a hurricane is better than a nuclear missile


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
KKK pamphlet against "black communists"


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The latter have been mostly broken up by the police and government


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The former are still intertwined with it in many occasions


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well you aren't wrong kobold. you have a better chance with a hurricane


[18-Apr-20 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm not convinced half of america aren't white supremists


[18-Apr-20 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, actually


[18-Apr-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When the US *struggles* to be in the top 20 on most every positive metric


[18-Apr-20 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just that the racists' votes matter more than an used roll of toilet paper


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It gets really grating when they're all "The BEST country in the world!" "Number One!" "Like nobody's ever seen before!"


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
everyone's votes are equal.


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao what


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no they arent


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm talking about the electoral college, sweetie


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] ononim#8141
yes, but you can restrict who vote, sometimes wthout even needing to actually restricting specific people form voting


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And people's votes are literally unequal by design of almost every electoral system


[18-Apr-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which is so easily gerrymandered it often makes urban and leftist votes utterly weightless


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're a New Yorker, your vote counts far less than if you're in Utah


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] ononim#8141
It is absurd how, iirc, a general ID is something US citizen needs to go to great lengths to acquire, while it is need for vote


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i have never seen an election where the urban vote was weightless


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is literally how trump became president


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not weightless, but it weighs less


[18-Apr-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's how the system works


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i disagree kobold.


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it is


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] jlun2#8758
it's so weird for me to see rural votes having so much power and be republican strongholds, but still unable to stop their decline


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump didnt win popular


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he won electoral college


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump lost by over 3 million votes


[18-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But he won because of where those votes were, in higher density areas


[18-Apr-20 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the current court decisions on gerrymandering continue to be GOP-favorable, expect the urban vote to be even less important in the years to come


[18-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The votes of people in major cities counted less than those in rural areas


[18-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the system


[18-Apr-20 10:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And expect Californians to begin openly talking of secession, for example


[18-Apr-20 10:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their population and economy is by far larger than practically every other state's, yet their voice in the EC is severely hampered by that institution


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, i support Californian secession at this moment. Would make it easier to root out the capitalists and actually make for a communist state :communism:


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
nuh


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
but it would harm hegemonical position of US


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
which is good


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
now do China


[18-Apr-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
but not do Russia


[18-Apr-20 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
because I am law abiding citizen of Russian Federation


[18-Apr-20 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Commiefornia, but this time it's not just republican propaganda :glowing_eyes:


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile in the real world a friend of mine just had a relative get found in a truck


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] ononim#8141
and abhor those who call for cession of any of its territories, upholding the article 110 of Criminal Codex of Russian Federation


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or rather, I should say, their body was found


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] ononim#8141
oh fuck


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they died on the job

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[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] ononim#8141
so uh "natural" death?


[18-Apr-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it would appear so


[18-Apr-20 10:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What did the autopsy say?


[18-Apr-20 10:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If there's any at this point


[18-Apr-20 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no word yet, they only found out half an hour ago


[18-Apr-20 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he'd been missing since monday


[18-Apr-20 10:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
10 straight days of 14 hour shifts?


[18-Apr-20 10:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well to be fair. i'm in favor of California separating too. if they feel like they should go their own way then they should be allowed to do so.


[18-Apr-20 10:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The rest of the US would regret it tho


[18-Apr-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was 50. His mother's alive and in her 80s and can't travel


[18-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe or maybe not. i'd be curious to see the outcome either way.


[18-Apr-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm really not sure how to help my friend right now other than F in chat


[18-Apr-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for the US, I have a *much* better idea and it's called "let's work on making votes count more equally"


[18-Apr-20 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@WingbeatPony https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513837787112538112/701059320246173726/93842643_10221400182370762_5295282367697518592_n.png

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[18-Apr-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-paying-sons-significant-others-180000-a-year-2020-4

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White House advisers reportedly said Trump's re-election campaign i...
The campaign is paying the women $15,000 a month through Brad Parscale's own companies to avoid disclosing the payments to the FEC, HuffPost reported.
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[18-Apr-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My shock-o-meter didn't even flutter


[18-Apr-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493484-trump-ally-compares-coronavirus-protesters-to-rosa-parks

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Trump ally compares coronavirus protesters to Rosa Parks
Economist Stephen Moore, who is on President Trump's council tasked with reopening the country, said he is helping plan a protest of Wisconsin's state-at-home order and compared those protesting such directives to Rosa Parks.
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[18-Apr-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yes, it;s totally comparable to racial segregation


[18-Apr-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
totally


[18-Apr-20 10:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In a weird twisted way I think it might be


[18-Apr-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you;re the modern oppressed minority of our time


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like page 1 of the Republican playbook


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
with a double helping of racism


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
figure out the words the left uses


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
let out a jumbled scream to play the victim in a similar manner


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
by the time the left has even figured out what you're saying, you're already 2 steps ahead of them.


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd bet deep down the argument is that the only "essential" workers are mcdonald's employees and nurses


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other words, they mean blacks and latinos


[18-Apr-20 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because that's how they think


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any low wage jobs


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
the rich white managers can go home


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, yes, but I was trying to give specific examples


[18-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
but all the poor blakk or white trash employees hav to go to work


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wing, you don't get it


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't want to whitelist


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want to blakklist


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
they want to say, like, gov't services that protect from fraud along with extremely wealthy ventures


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
all those people can go home


[18-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
anyone else? Die.


[18-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want the default state to be essential.


[18-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what "reopening" is about.


[18-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Exposing the poor first to the virus so they die.


[18-Apr-20 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's more than that


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone rich can stay home on their own.


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] jlun2#8758
are whites never poor or something


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause that doesn't account for the people who genuinely believe it's a hoax


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The working class needs to work.


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whites that are poor are considered failed whites.


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rosa parks of our time: standing up for the poor person's right to die!


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think anyone in conservative leadership positions at this point really thinks it's a hoax


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
they just want underlings to think that


[18-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a convenient way to sew chaos


[18-Apr-20 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think if you're in the boat that it's all a conspiracy or that the disease is not as bad as we're making it out to be (see: southern governors) then all the restrictions that are being put in place are a purely political move


[18-Apr-20 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's hampering the rights of hardworking white economists


[18-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they are in that position.


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's I Hate Mondays, Wing.


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, to a conservative


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
1 person dying from the virus


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and 1 million people dying from the virus


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
are the same thing


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Either someone died or nobody died.


[18-Apr-20 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That group may also exist


[18-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you impose restrictions if someone will die anyways?


[18-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Boomer Trolley Problem.


[18-Apr-20 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know, more and more i'm convinced that conservatives are politically unsalvageable


[18-Apr-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the entire country dies to a virus, thne it wads destiend to die anyway. ;let it die and let the surviving elite have the spoils


[18-Apr-20 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're a burden upon society


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only thing they deserve is the sweet release of death at the guillotine


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 they keep coming back like :zombiepony:


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire goal is to destroy democracy


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
like holy shit if not for them I won't believe zombies are real


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
their entire goal is to reinstate the monarchy via capitalism.


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
give them an inch of "this government program is obviously fraud" and they'll take a mile of "we must institute monarchy"


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not compatible with "salvagible"


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know.


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What i'm fearful of


[18-Apr-20 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is how many of them are out there


[18-Apr-20 11:00 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie how do modern monarches even work if
1. they dont give a shit about ppl
2. it's also a lot harder to say "god chose us" now


[18-Apr-20 11:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, in case you forgot, I still have to put up with the NYC economist in another chat who uses an anime clownface emoji all the time and thinks AOC is the dumbest scrap of toxic sludge to come out of the tristate area


[18-Apr-20 11:01 PM] jlun2#8758
not Trump?


[18-Apr-20 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the man vehemently defended trump throughout the impeachment hearings


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] jlun2#8758
how old is he


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
about my age


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
NYC conservatives are a completely different animal


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What matters here imo is if these such people are just a disproportionately powerful minority


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Modern monarchies in "the west" largely stay out of actual politics and just do some token functions for matters of government continuity and state PR / foreign relations


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[18-Apr-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not a question of absolutism


[18-Apr-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if there comes one king who is friendly to the working class?


[18-Apr-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or just people's welfare in general


[18-Apr-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The moment a monarchy in an electoral system starts talking poltics is the moment one of the country's parties will make "kick out the monarchy" one of their electoral promises


[18-Apr-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The nature of capitalism and the rich is more complex than old Aristotelian definitions of government


[18-Apr-20 11:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hey some potentially good news


[18-Apr-20 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the friend's relative who was found in the truck?


[18-Apr-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
NYC conservatives are people who believe once you rent, you shouldn't hav rights.


[18-Apr-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Resurrected?


[18-Apr-20 11:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Apparently *not* dead, just comatose to the point that their pulse was erratic


[18-Apr-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, that's certainly better than dead, though just marginally if it doesn't improve soon...


[18-Apr-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[18-Apr-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then he dies upon looking at the hospital bill.


[18-Apr-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:shrugpony:


[18-Apr-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-texas-lockdown-protesters-anti-vaxxers-chant-fire-fauci-2020-4

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An anti-lockdown protest in Austin, Texas, drew anti-vaxxers and Tr...
Despite not having adequate testing in place, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Friday announced he would begin reopening Texas businesses by May.
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[18-Apr-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what will coem out of today's virus breifing\


[18-Apr-20 11:34 PM] jlun2#8758
they look so young


[18-Apr-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
doesn't help the "younger people are less conservative" articles


[18-Apr-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and hels railing against the mueller report and the press, and mark meadows


[18-Apr-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was nasty and dishonest


[18-Apr-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she was a terrible reporter and should have her pullitzer prize revoked


[18-Apr-20 11:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh btw I just noticed the irony in the protester pictured there holding up an anti-mask sign while wearing a bandana presumably in the event tear gas is deployed


[18-Apr-20 11:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and she's not the only one, plaid shirt behind her also has a bandana


[18-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>my body, my choice


[18-Apr-20 11:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
This is not what pro-choice means


[19-Apr-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[19-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found this during some coronavirus cleaning, concerned.


[19-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-covid-19-survey-1498768

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65 percent of U.S. adults say Donald Trump was too slow to respond ...
President Trump has defended his administration's response during the critical month of February, when some reports suggested he could have acted more aggressively.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1582771/donald-trump.jpg


[19-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
His approval rating's returned to normal btw.


[19-Apr-20 01:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/florida-to-release-list-of-nursing-homes-with-coronavirus-infections-after-republican-ron-desantis-was-sued-by-miami-herald/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Florida to release list of nursing homes with coronavirus infection...
Florida’s Republican governor announced on Saturday that he was reversing course and would release a list of nursing homes where residents or staff have tested positive for COVID-19. “After weeks of refusing to release the names of elder care facilities that have had residents...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Ron-DeSantis.jpg


[19-Apr-20 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you think it was because of his monday rant, or was it something else


[19-Apr-20 01:12 AM] illumnious#7938
fucking florida


[19-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably just because infection and death numbers continue to go up, doubt too many people pay attention to the briefings


[19-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That can be swayed, that is


[19-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's approval rating plateaued at the end of March. It's been dropping for nearly two weeks.


[19-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're either watching the Trump bits to watch him say something stupid or to cheer him on


[19-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's nothing to do with his rantiness, it's just that soccer moms lost interest.


[19-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-urbanism is a mental disorder.

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[19-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I know what the black belt is. Just prevent them from voting. And if the rural communities can band together with suburbia, they can extort the urban populace and slowly convert them as everyone realizes living in concrete blocks is a spelling of misery and disaster. Just look at the list. Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. Wilmington. DC. Philadelphia. Jew York. They all have large no-go zones. I live in the east so I can't say too much about the west coast. If you can shatter any hope of them cobbling together a coalition, you can get based cities for whites again. Leave the hellholes to disperse without funding if they don't comply."


[19-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a week or two, they were all on Facebook feeling comfort because Trump seemed like he was finally addressing the crisis


[19-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, you've got to imagine being a rich dumb white woman with 2 kids who shops at Whole Foods and thinks that "terrorists" can only be brown.


[19-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"jew york", "based cities", "no-go zones"


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now imagine that one day you go to Whole Foods, but stop for McDonald's along the way, because it's your cheat day


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't allowed inside.


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The workers are wearing masks.


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You turn on the radio and the governor has declared a stay at home order.


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People like this probably never leave their homes except for the one time a black guy didn't keep the door open for them and that counts as assault


[19-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bam, instant panic.


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You rush home and start searching Facebook for what's going on


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Karen, Victoria, and Marsha are all reporting the same thing


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then Karen links you an address by Trump earlier


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget Amberley and Sharen


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you don't understand half the words, but he says things are being done.


[19-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, Amber, Kimberly, and Sharon.


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know someone who has three kids with his wife


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
First kid is Rowan


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then they had twins, named them Waylon and Lennon


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, now you think "oh this will be over in a few weeks"


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instantly you feel comforted


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then your aunt dies


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
a survey reaches you about the president and you say yeah he's doing stuff


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
two weeks later


[19-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
your aunt's dead, your cousin's dead, your kids' teacher is dead.


[19-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're furiously searching Facebook for answers, and Victoria says Trump was wrong. Victoria's never said anything about Trump before.


[19-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh Dems just gotta replay Trump's briefs on repeat and pretend Biden doesn't exist


[19-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You watch an address by him but actually *listen* this time...none of it makes sense. Google searches tell you what the words mean and they're wrong.


[19-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't know *why* Trump messed up. All you know is that the crisis isn't over, and somehow he's to blame.


[19-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So this time you answer that you disapprove etc.


[19-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's ranting came later and didn't do much.


[19-Apr-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking dengist itsthinking


[19-Apr-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately all it probably did was cement in the minds of idiots that they should stop listening to his addresses.


[19-Apr-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
dengist itsthinking


[19-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to realize on the no-go thing, Its


[19-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thought here isn't that urban areas cause problems


[19-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that urban areas allow muslims to exist.


[19-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the conservative mindset is about strict right/wrong reward/punish.


[19-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wouldn't giv a shit if cities had 1000x less crime than rural areas.


[19-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
One arab person is a reason to nuke the city to them.


[19-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always like to point out where conservative pundits live


[19-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://c2.vgtstatic.com/thumbll/1/9/19192-v3-xl/rush-limbaughs-house.jpg

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[19-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only difference between the talking heads conservatives like and the ones liberals like is who they pander to.


[19-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You think Rush Limbaugh or Tucker Carlson would be caught dead eating in a diner in some rural Pennsylvania town?


[19-Apr-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If they had a camera in their face, absolutely


[19-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The point I make is


[19-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At the absolute worst, at least liberals don't hide their contempt for rural America


[19-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These conservative pundits still have it but hide it for money.


[19-Apr-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
how are they so rich


[19-Apr-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
was it from their boomer parent's fund


[19-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomer conservative rubes


[19-Apr-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That and TV being super lucrative.


[19-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though Limbaugh does have a lot of money because his family were experienced lawyers and judges


[19-Apr-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all the advertising on it.


[19-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why despite what they say they don't want the Fairness Doctrine back


[19-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine Rush Limbaugh if he _had_ to allow a liberal on


[19-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It defeats the entire point of the show


[19-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole point of these biased pundits is reinforce listeners views


[19-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also re: Muslim terrorism, what was the last major Muslim terrorist attack, the Pulse Nightclub shooting?


[19-Apr-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(In the US)


[19-Apr-20 01:31 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[19-Apr-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just seems like it all ended


[19-Apr-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only thing I can think of was the air force base


[19-Apr-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter how long ago it was, only muslims can be terrorists, white people are just "protestors"


[19-Apr-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the last one that actually seemed to be connected with a terrorist cell and wasn't just some lone wolf crazy guy


[19-Apr-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that group of white nutjobs making political cvommands at gunpoint? that;s just armmed protest!


[19-Apr-20 01:34 AM] jlun2#8758
also, 3 kids? so their broke as shit and that's likely their parent's house


[19-Apr-20 01:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Not *directly* politics but related to current events https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/uk-moves-to-drop-huawei-as-5g-vendor-citing-china-coronavirus-transparency/

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UK moves to drop Huawei as 5G vendor, citing China coronavirus tran...
The UK is moving to drop Huawei as a vendor for the country’s 5G cellphone network in a major blow to Communist China over poor coronavirus transparency. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, now rec…
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[19-Apr-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean it's pretty darn related to politics


[19-Apr-20 01:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/4/21207927/5g-towers-burning-uk-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-link

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British 5G towers are being set on fire because of coronavirus cons...
A growing disinformation campaign is targeting 5G in the UK
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[19-Apr-20 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
someone on WhatsApp send me a video of so-called-5G-network tower on fire but here's the video https://youtu.be/Lw41gjbUVXI please tell me it's fake as shit

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nigerians are now burning down 5G tower saying it won't be allowed ...
Nigerians are now burning down 5G tower saying it won't be allowed unless if properly checked
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[19-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been a big thing in the UK


[19-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People burning 5G towers and random fibre cabinets


[19-Apr-20 01:56 AM] illumnious#7938
actually it says: *Nigeria Sends a warning to the Government of Nigeria and the rest of the World, 5 G will not be accepted 🙆🏻‍♂*


[19-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.businessinsider.com/5g-coronavirus-arson-cellphone-towers-russia-iran-bots-2020-4?r=DE&IR=T

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5G coronavirus conspiracy theory that led to arson attacks on cell ...
Bot networks backed by resources from state-level actors are enflaming people's unfounded fears that 5G masts cause COVID-19 infections.
https://i.insider.com/5e988fe329d6d973347fa0cf?width=1200&format=jpeg


[19-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Friend of mine that works at an ISP has been dealing with their cabinets being petroled and torched


[19-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/04/uk-phone-masts-attacked-amid-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory

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UK phone masts attacked amid 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theory
Police investigate possible arson attacks as officials and experts reject rumours that 5G causes Covid-19
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[19-Apr-20 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
hmm I see


[19-Apr-20 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
thanks for letting me know


[19-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Critical stupidity goes beyond country borders


[19-Apr-20 01:58 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm so sick and tired of the 5G network false information bullshit


[19-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/DrJCottrell/status/1251222828982177794

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President: Great things will happen when we reopen America!

America right before it reopens:
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[19-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't help when TV personalities on morning shows do stuff like this
https://twitter.com/markgrimshaw16/status/1249646644942995456

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If you didn't see #ThisMorning today, Eamonn Holmes suggested he believes that 5G may be to blame for Coronavirus & doesn't think you should listen to the "mainstream media" & "state narrative", NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT JUST HAPPENED then Alison Hammond baked some banana brea...
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[19-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/gamray/status/1249639419369357312

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Eamonn Holmes talking about the 5G conspiracy theory. I just can’t. https://t.co/vdwlQe0M1L
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[19-Apr-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
word of advice, never quick to believe in any shitty information from Facebook and WhatsApp


[19-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To nobody's surprise
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/bill-barr-pushed-australia-for-dirt-on-mueller-investigation-while-his-department-was-assisting-in-hostage-negotiations-report/

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Bill Barr pushed Australia for dirt on Mueller investigation while ...
According to a report at the Daily Beast, Attorney General William Barr pressed officials in Australia for information on Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation at the same time members of his Justice Department were assisting the Australians with hostage negotiations with Tehr...
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[19-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Barr presumably leveraged repatriating Australian prisoners from Iran in exchange for dirt on the Mueller report


[19-Apr-20 02:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4mAx2GLDXs

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David Pakman Show
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US Reputation on Life Support Thanks to Trump
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FACT: Trump is Ruining America's Reputation Around the World https://y...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M4mAx2GLDXs/sddefault.jpg


[19-Apr-20 02:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hmm. Reddit sleuths are turning up a bunch of (thus far inconclusive as to source) evidence that all of the lockdown protests were astroturfed by someone in Arizona


[19-Apr-20 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they checked registrars and turned up a bunch of websites and domain names related to the protests that were all registered within a couple hours from the same un-proxied sources. The ones registered in Florida are all empty squatter sites; the ones in AZ all have the same boilerplate content


[19-Apr-20 02:48 AM] illumnious#7938
wat https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251670585165459456

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1251670585165459456
Great new book out by @realKTMcFarland, “Revolution: Trump, Washington, and We the People”. Get your copy today!
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[19-Apr-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Is it possible to astroturf trump supporters into accidentally supporting liberal causes?


[19-Apr-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
Asking for a friend


[19-Apr-20 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no because liberal causes require empathy


[19-Apr-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
astroturfing liberals is possible


[19-Apr-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but you'll never get magas to do it


[19-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
anything that can be framed in the context of egoistic altruism


[19-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
should in theory be doable


[19-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
because it's entirely for personal gain reasons


[19-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just say the protests are a plan by the liberal left and jewish controlled media to bait good americans out so they'll get sick and be too week to stop the socialists from taking over


[19-Apr-20 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, conservatives don't like altruism period


[19-Apr-20 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only time they'll accidentally support liberal causes is by being tone-deaf to reality, like this guy

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[19-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you just need to say the opposite of what you really mean


[19-Apr-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You see those protesters over there? they're all socialists trying to take your guns. Don't be fooled by them all carrying guns, they stole them from good conservatives like you"


[19-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Those guns were government handouts"


[19-Apr-20 03:20 AM] jlun2#8758
wanna try spreading that


[19-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Guns are just a socialist control device used to get you hooked on the adrenaline of firing bullets so you'll be more obedient to the socialist cause"


[19-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them the Zionist elites are paying for the protests.


[19-Apr-20 03:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/ivanka-trump-offered-an-idea-of-how-americans-could-spend-saturday-night-and-it-did-not-go-well/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Ivanka Trump offered an idea of how Americans could spend Saturday ...
First daughter and senior White House advisor Ivanka Trump offered a suggestion for bored Americans to do during the COVID-19 shutdowns. She suggested people, “try making shadow puppets from Henry Bursill’s recently unearthed 1860’s book of engraving.” At least two Twitter use...
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[19-Apr-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sure was nice of george soros to pay for all of these protests


[19-Apr-20 03:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why do these people want to go back to work


[19-Apr-20 03:33 AM] illumnious#7938
heck if I kinow


[19-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the US has no welfare system worth snot


[19-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the US is based on a culture of "don't save money, spend everything you have and use a credit card to spend money you don't have yet"


[19-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So even people that live in big houses and have two cars don't have enough money in the bank to pay the mortgage or utilities or food or other expenses if they miss two months' paychecks in a row


[19-Apr-20 03:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If they want real freedom, why don't they shoot their capitalists so no one will force them to work


[19-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stockholm syndrome and aspirations of reaching "the american dream"


[19-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's easy for some people to justify everything good on the current system and everything bad on "socialism"


[19-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The healthcare system is the best example


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If i stay loyal to the billionaire who hired me, then i can climb a corporate ladder to the billionaires club!"


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You have people justifying keeping the current system because it allows for "choice"


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I did have an interesting discussion with people about how the protests to go back to work may be helpful


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So like


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a UBI


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that choice is enforced by your employer or your bank account


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the arguments is "People won't want to work"


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here we have people given $1200


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That still want to work


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People want meaning in their life


[19-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not just binging Netflix


[19-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can have a UBI and a productive society


[19-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they believe a socialized healthcare system straight up means year-long waiting times for any procedure and death panels


[19-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1200 USD a month might actually spread out the population over to towns where rent is cheap enough that people can live "comfortably" on that


[19-Apr-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which would improve those towns' economies, eventually raising the cost of living there and reducing it in the city hellscapes


[19-Apr-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would let me buy a house in less than a year and then build from there


[19-Apr-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/TrzA6nY.jpg

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[19-Apr-20 03:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Capitalism = being driven to do sth by capitalists
Being driven to do sth = communism
→ Capitalism = communism by capitalists

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[19-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
On the plus side, real estate market (in Spain at least) will go down and I might be able to buy an apartment before it balloons up again


[19-Apr-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no income so any hope of me buying a collapsed market house is a pipe dream


[19-Apr-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Well, not unless you seize the means first

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[19-Apr-20 03:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> "If i stay loyal to the billionaire who hired me, then i can climb a corporate ladder to the billionaires club!"
I thought everything was contracted away now


[19-Apr-20 03:50 AM] jlun2#8758
unless you want to be a contract supervisor I guess


[19-Apr-20 03:52 AM] jlun2#8758
also are boomers allergic to "wasting" their time on internet/video games/movies or something @shadow puppets


[19-Apr-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/vylzaq9bglt41.jpg

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[19-Apr-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're not allergic to wasting their time on cable TV tho


[19-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, it's just a hipster thing to post


[19-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Let's be artsy and unique by mimicking this centuries old passtime that's honestly really fucking depressing"


[19-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When you're down to shadow puppets for entertainment, you're either dealing with a 3 year old or a complete breakdown of society


[19-Apr-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or maybe it's just that her life is so full of puppets and shadows that she sees it as a genuine form of entertainment


[19-Apr-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Is this what the poor people like?"


[19-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
lol I just linked that dishes thing a couple hours ago


[19-Apr-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
<https://twitter.com/DrJCottrell/status/1251222828982177794>


[19-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I'd just like to note I've found and argued with someone who literally has South Park ideology.


[19-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Wont matter what I do. Unless I get superpowers my world aint happening"


[19-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a justification for not choosing between Democrats and Republicans, while completely politically aligned with Bernie.


[19-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
His main disagreement with Bernie: that Bernie would be willing to work with Democrats in order to get actual change.


[19-Apr-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, I told him South Park's ideology. He saw it as exactly right.


[19-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh man, I missed this on my first watch of <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjonGtrCyVE>

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[19-Apr-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too eerie


[19-Apr-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
onion is just sad now


[19-Apr-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People forget the "progressive" part of progressive


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally believes that because liberals blame conservatives for problems, they shouldn't be listened to.


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I have seen people say they don't care about the president, just SCOTUS picks and judicial appointments


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pick the person who picks the best


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that since politicians are irrational, he should return the favor by not voting.


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he thinks he's winning by refusing to vote.


[19-Apr-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
While saying that the politicians are childish for asking him to vote.


[19-Apr-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-bye-frozen-gif-5932374

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[19-Apr-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is all reminding me of that one scene in Avenue 5


[19-Apr-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, first pope that seems to have actually read the new testament
https://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-it-might-be-time-to-consider-universal-basic-wage-2020-4

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Pope Francis says it might be 'time to consider a universal basic w...
"This may be the time to consider a universal basic wage which would acknowledge and dignify the noble, essential tasks you carry out," The Pope said.
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[19-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just good thinking for him


[19-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if no one had to work, how many people would be religious


[19-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess mostly it's trying to win the good graces of leftists that are increasingly less religious


[19-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What are conservative catholics gonna do, commit heresy?


[19-Apr-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
commit heresy to own the libs!


[19-Apr-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493517-newsom-tells-protestors-he-wont-be-swayed-by-protests

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Newsom tells protestors he won't be swayed by politics
California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Saturday that he won’t be swayed by the protests that erupted in his state demanding an end to the stay-at-home order.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mreportnewsom.jpg


[19-Apr-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1251592356891066371?s=20

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David Corn (@DavidCornDC)
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/1251592356891066371?s=20
Watch closely. People brought their kids--and there's no distancing. Almost no masks. One woman holds up a sign: "I want a Haircut." Another sign: "Socialism distancing." This is deadly ignorance, and, BTW, this is a pro-Trump crowd. Trump is recklessly encouraging them. http...
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[19-Apr-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not going to shed a tear for people who support trump dying


[19-Apr-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
but I am concerned they will accelerate the spread of the virus and cause a lot of needless death for _everyone else_


[19-Apr-20 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that sentence was grammatically ambiguous but I got it now


[19-Apr-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/KristinKarnitz/status/1251606184198582272

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https://twitter.com/KristinKarnitz/status/1251606184198582272
@DavidCornDC I live in Wisconsin. My county had a 340% increase in COVID cases in a 10 day span.
Add the Confederate flags flying, and the people who brought their kids...I’m crushed. 💔
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[19-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man it would be a shame if they all got it


[19-Apr-20 07:16 AM] Midknight#9798
Darwin's gonna have to sign a lot of awards this year.


[19-Apr-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
```Barr presumably leveraged repatriating Australian prisoners from Iran in exchange for dirt on the Mueller report```


[19-Apr-20 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
still pretty good at his job. My respect for him keeps growing.


[19-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```Just say the protests are a plan by the liberal left and jewish controlled media to bait good americans out so they'll get sick and be too week to stop the socialists from taking over```


[19-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
:glowing_eyes:


[19-Apr-20 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/493512-banks-say-they-ran-out-of-ppp-funding-within-minutes

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Banks say they ran out of PPP funding 'within minutes'
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[19-Apr-20 07:53 AM] Crow#5457
> Banks ran out of the $350 billion allocated for the Small Business Administration's (SBA) emergency coronavirus relief fund within minutes of the program's application availability, according to a report from NBC news. 
> 
> "We didn't even get through the first five minutes of applications," a JPMorgan Chase senior banking executive told the outlet. 
> 
> The bank received over 60,000 applicants for the Paycheck Protection Program. A senior Bank of America executive told NBC that on the first day the bank received over 10,000 applications per hour.


[19-Apr-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
```"Wont matter what I do. Unless I get superpowers my world aint happening"```


[19-Apr-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
factually and statistically correct


[19-Apr-20 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
even _with_ superpowers 😂


[19-Apr-20 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
godhood is a bit different, as well as NBC availability.


[19-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/small-business-loan-program-ran-out-money-within-minutes-some-n1187051>


[19-Apr-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
> The bank received over 60,000 applicants for the Paycheck Protection Program within those first five minutes, a senior executive at Chase said. When funds ran dry after less than two weeks, only 27,000 loans had ultimately been approved, Chase said.


[19-Apr-20 08:12 AM] byte[]#2610
pp p


[19-Apr-20 08:12 AM] byte[]#2610
peepee pee


[19-Apr-20 08:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I am very funny


[19-Apr-20 08:13 AM] jlun2#8758
I suppose no hope of having them unlimited QE this away too?


[19-Apr-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[19-Apr-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
money printer go brrr only for big banks


[19-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Apr-20 08:48 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Apr-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
that looks like a more muscular alex jones


[19-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
oh, that is actually alex jones


[19-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
the patch says infowars.com underneath


[19-Apr-20 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
That emote is so perfect


[19-Apr-20 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
:lul:

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[19-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not muscular, he's just pressing his arm against his torso


[19-Apr-20 09:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Alex Jones is actually very big


[19-Apr-20 09:04 AM] byte[]#2610
If you look up pictures of him shirtless (cause he takes off his shirt on his dumb show all the time)


[19-Apr-20 09:04 AM] byte[]#2610
He's quite large


[19-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good thing we have the 2nd amendment to entirely invalidate muscle mass


[19-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
alex jones is actually somewhat muscled


[19-Apr-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaizu5kfPJc

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Brug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaizu5kfPJc
ALEX JONES FLEXING
This isnt even the gayest video ive made...

My Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/brug.does.williams/





-Brug HD
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[19-Apr-20 09:10 AM] Crow#5457
well, this is in my browser history now


[19-Apr-20 09:18 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[19-Apr-20 09:27 AM] byte[]#2610
🏳️‍🌈 🐸


[19-Apr-20 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/comments/g3niq3/i_simply_cannot_believe_that_people_are/fnstpyl/

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r/maryland - Comment by u/Dr_Midnight on ”I simply cannot believe t...
14,986 votes and 2,028 comments so far on Reddit


[19-Apr-20 11:09 AM] Crow#5457
astroturfing


[19-Apr-20 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ, that comment got 16 platinums, 72 golds, and a metric shitton more random awards


[19-Apr-20 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
and it only has 803 score


[19-Apr-20 11:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[19-Apr-20 11:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>"per capita basis of mortality rate"


[19-Apr-20 11:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've learned math for 13 years but... wtf is this?


[19-Apr-20 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
means how many people die for a certain number of individuals


[19-Apr-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
for example, a country with 300 million people will have a lot more people dying than a country with 300 thousand people


[19-Apr-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
but if you base it on the number of people dying per 100 thousand individuals, you get a much clearer view of what's going on


[19-Apr-20 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
that's what it means by per capita


[19-Apr-20 12:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If so, India should be the country that does best


[19-Apr-20 12:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And china does better than the US as well if calculating "per capita basis of mortality rate"


[19-Apr-20 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
the problem with india is that not only are they not supplying nearly enough tests for the coronavirus, the government is also suppressing information about it in their borders


[19-Apr-20 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
and china's been straight up lying about their numbers, they recently just randomly bumped up the mortality rate by 50% out of the blue


[19-Apr-20 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/world/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll.html

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China Raises Coronavirus Death Toll by 50% in Wuhan
Officials facing skepticism about their credibility also bumped up their tally of infections in the city where the pandemic emerged.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/17/world/17virus-china-deaths3-copy/17virus-china-deaths3-copy-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[19-Apr-20 12:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Didn't the US added the "probable death" as well?


[19-Apr-20 12:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[19-Apr-20 12:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/health/us-coronavirus-deaths-trends-wednesday/index.html

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US coronavirus death totals compiled by CDC will now include 'proba...
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now counting "probable" cases of coronavirus among its tabulations, according to the agency's website.
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[19-Apr-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-china-may-have-started-coronavirus-deliberately-2020-4

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Trump said China may have started the coronavirus deliberately, as ...
Blaming the COVID-19 pandemic on China will shift attention away from the US death toll and help clinch his re-election, said Trump's advisors.
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[19-Apr-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/illinois-reportedly-organized-secret-flights-bringing-masks-from-china-2020-4

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Illinois' governor organized secret flights to bring masks and glov...
Secret flights are bringing medical supplies to Illinois on chartered jets to try and prevent the Trump administration from seizing them.
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[19-Apr-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Apr-20 01:02 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our social medias are now full of shitpostings of anti dogmeat ban


[19-Apr-20 01:02 PM] Opponent#3498
human stupidity is truly something that unites the world.


[19-Apr-20 01:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their slogans are "people don't agree, only dogs agree" and "don't let westerners rape our great culture"


[19-Apr-20 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
dogs agree that they want to be eaten?


[19-Apr-20 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I suppose vore's a popular fetish.


[19-Apr-20 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They mean the dog meat ban


[19-Apr-20 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Only dogs agree"


[19-Apr-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
no I get that, but the slogan is hillarious.


[19-Apr-20 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only see stupid


[19-Apr-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's funnier from the outside.


[19-Apr-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to 2020: the year the darwin awards became a multimillion contestant awards show


[19-Apr-20 01:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk why they think banning dog meat is letting westerners "raping" our great culture... It's like saying China has no any other great culture except eating dogs


[19-Apr-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I remember when i was your age, china banned eating dogs! It was devastating to my generation because that's the only thing china had going for it!"


[19-Apr-20 01:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They just post the same things two years ago when the gov banned firecrackers in urban areas


[19-Apr-20 01:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That time was a little more understandable because firecracker is a nationwide tradition


[19-Apr-20 01:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But this time actually... Only a few areas in southern China have the tradition of eating dogs


[19-Apr-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
firecrackers are also fun, so i could see where people would be a little mad about losing that


[19-Apr-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
did the firecracker ban stick around?


[19-Apr-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont get the dog thing...


[19-Apr-20 01:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now we can only light firecrackers in rural areas or big parks


[19-Apr-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically big open spaces where things are less likely to set on fire


[19-Apr-20 01:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[19-Apr-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds fair


[19-Apr-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has that too for the msot part


[19-Apr-20 01:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We have people dead of firecrackers every single Need Year


[19-Apr-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
depending on state anyway


[19-Apr-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people lose hands to fireworks evewry single year in america on the 4th of july


[19-Apr-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also death


[19-Apr-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
death and hand loss

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[19-Apr-20 01:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here usually death or blind


[19-Apr-20 01:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually I love this policy... Because people set off firecrackers not only in New Year,  but also during weddings, funerals and birthdays


[19-Apr-20 01:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And those goddamned just set off firecrackers at midnight... Especially for birthdays


[19-Apr-20 01:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493505-conservative-activists-encourage-doj-to-sue-governors-local-leaders

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[19-Apr-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493501-south-carolina-to-reopen-public-beaches-retail-stores-next-week-amid

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South Carolina to reopen public beaches, retail stores next week am...
South Carolina Gov.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcmasterhenry.getty_.092619.jpg


[19-Apr-20 01:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Death Cult Party.


[19-Apr-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
can't escape death, might as well worship it


[19-Apr-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the funny thing is, no matter what happens it undermines the liberal point


[19-Apr-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
if it goes well, it means the hoax was real


[19-Apr-20 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
if it doesn't, it's because liberals destroyed the economy


[19-Apr-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
I know I said it before, but watching someone figure this out without mass executions would be worth living for


[19-Apr-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if the protestors die by execution, it means the communists have risen once again!


[19-Apr-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which to be honest, doesnt sound so bad right now

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[19-Apr-20 02:54 PM] ononim#8141
I hate the future bro I am sich of this shit


[19-Apr-20 02:55 PM] ononim#8141
why can't I live in the timeline where [REDACTED TO PRESERVE THE POWER LEVEL]


[19-Apr-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-mosques-could-avoid-lockdown-accused-of-islamophobia-2020-4

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Trump claimed, without evidence, that mosques could get special tre...
Trump in recent days has been accused of seeking to rile up his populist base with incendiary remarks amid criticism of his coronavirus response.
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[19-Apr-20 03:02 PM] Crow#5457
ononim, are you the ghost of lenin? have you become one with the Communism and returned as a projection onto this plane of existence?


[19-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Apr-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/tNzsNkGUI4g

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The Late Late Show with James Corden
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Meet Trump's New Press Conference Advisor
James checks in with Michael Spicer, special communicators advisor to President Donald Trump for his COVID-19 briefings. Despite Michael's best efforts from the room next door to coach the president while he is at the podium, Trump is always going to be someone who marches to ...
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[19-Apr-20 05:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1251835686358970368?s=21

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[19-Apr-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that last guy has the right idea, just run into the ocean to drown yourself out of sheer chaos


[19-Apr-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[19-Apr-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that one lady has the look of someone who was punched in the solar plexus


[19-Apr-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
no tears if anyone here gets punched in the solar plexus


[19-Apr-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to be the one to punch them in the solar plexus but i also dont want to get infected with stuvid-20


[19-Apr-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Apr-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Vaccines are made with aborted fetal cells"


[19-Apr-20 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
[citation needed]


[19-Apr-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/treasury-secretary-mnuchin-said-us-economy-could-rebound-in-months-2020-4

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Treasury secretary Mnuchin predicts US economy will rebound in mont...
Mnuchin said advances in testing and treatments for COVID-19 will play a key role in the economy's reopening.
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[19-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
> [citation needed]


[19-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
what are you, a NERD?????????


[19-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
Alex Jones' word is gospel


[19-Apr-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his gospel sounds like crack gargling


[19-Apr-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:ewstraight:


[19-Apr-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9553e45fd2fc46940ce5b3ca4b4a0d04

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'They're killing us,' Texas residents say of Trump rollbacks
HOUSTON (AP) — Danielle Nelson’s best monitor for the emissions billowing out of the oil refineries and chemical plants surrounding her home: The heaving chest of her 9-year-old asthmatic son....
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[19-Apr-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/7b7e148bdfb32117b90c336c896c5620

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Coronavirus accelerates decline of slumping coal industry
CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Travis Deti has been working the phones to try to get government support for the U.S. coal industry during the coronavirus pandemic. Between recent calls, the head of the...
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[19-Apr-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
I read up above


[19-Apr-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
the difference between US and China death reporting is that the US is incompetent


[19-Apr-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
while China is malicious


[19-Apr-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
both countries are underreporting, one out of retardation, the other out by a political play


[19-Apr-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/Apt3TZC2ASJyEw_sXIlmUSg

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Maryland Gov. says it's 'absolutely false' states have enough testi...
The White House released coronavirus guidelines for opening the country on Thursday, April 16, 2020. The Trump administration says states are ready and have the testing capability and capacity to reopen. However, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan says these claims are "absolutely false."
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQXB0M1RaQzJBU0p5RXdfc1hJbG1VU2cAMA


[19-Apr-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
read up above what? my citation bit was at the protestor signs


[19-Apr-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
english ambiguity


[19-Apr-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
fixed my wording


[19-Apr-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh


[19-Apr-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
so


[19-Apr-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
how many protesters still actually remember the original vaccine myth, or did it somehow mutate into fetuses now and no one remembers the original autism thing?


[19-Apr-20 08:33 PM] jlun2#8758
or are they going to say fetuses cause autism in their march?


[19-Apr-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-CG5w4YwOI

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[19-Apr-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
"When a south american country with oil elects a socialist leader."


[19-Apr-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
dutch diseased to death


[19-Apr-20 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So that guy I mentioned was found in critical condition in his truck yesterday has actually passed


[19-Apr-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
let's take a moment to remember that while we're all staying at home, there are thousands of people putting their lives on the line every day to make that possible

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[19-Apr-20 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
> or are they going to say fetuses cause autism in their march?
@jlun2 

There's people already actively saying they will still not get any vaccine. I'll have to dig up the video I saw, it was the most COVID-19 of the truck guy rants video genre to be seen


[19-Apr-20 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually I can't find it on YouTube.


[19-Apr-20 08:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
But it was basically a truck guy walking around in the woods saying he won't get it because Gates Foundation and shit


[19-Apr-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
why are those types of people usually the same age?


[19-Apr-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they kinda aren't, but the lifestyle they lead kinda makes them all look that way


[19-Apr-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of conservatives stick to a similar look to eachother, so it makes them all look relatively the same age regardless of what age they actually are


[19-Apr-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in rural areas


[19-Apr-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also people in general unless they're extremely young or elderly, dont tend to look their own age


[19-Apr-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/19/world/bangladesh-funeral-cornavirus/index.html

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100,000 gather at funeral in Bangladesh defying coronavirus lockdow...
More than 100,000 people defied Bangladesh's lockdown order on Saturday to attend the funeral of a senior leader of the Islamist party in the district of Brahmanbaria, according to the prime minister's special assistant, Shah Ali Farhad and the Brahmanbaria police spokesman, I...
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[19-Apr-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
join us next week when 100,000 gather at a funeral for the last 100,000 that attended a funeral in bangledesh defying lockdown orders

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[19-Apr-20 09:24 PM] jlun2#8758
how many cases even are there in Bangladesh?


[19-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reported, 2.5k


[19-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Actual, who fucking knows


[19-Apr-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
ty


[19-Apr-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-governor-protests-are-ok-if-protestors-socially-distance-2020-4

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Ohio governor says anti-lockdown protests are OK if protestors adhe...
Photos show hundreds of protestors turned out to the Ohio Statehouse to protest DeWine's stay-at-home order on Saturday.
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[19-Apr-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which they have totally done so far, i;m sure


[19-Apr-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/abortion/493574-judge-hands-abortion-rights-supporters-a-win-in-tennessee

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Judge hands abortion rights supporters a win in Tennessee
A federal judge handed abortion rights supporters a win in Tennessee Friday by blocking a statewide order banning surgical abortions during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[19-Apr-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Apr-20 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/social-distancing-communism-these-are-the-stupidest-protest-signs-from-rallies-to-reopen/?utm_source=push_notifications

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‘Social distancing = Communism’: These are the stupidest protest si...
While family members of the elderly and ill are working hard to protect them from coming near COVID-19, supporters of President Donald Trump and Fox News viewers are protesting around the country demanding everything reopen so they can go back to their local bars or golf with ...
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[19-Apr-20 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938
clown music


[19-Apr-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*insert circus afro song here*


[19-Apr-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
never have i been happier to live out in the county far from town


[19-Apr-20 10:45 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I thought rural areas were like this tho?


[19-Apr-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well rural townships are the places of gatherings, out in the county there's no gatherings because who the fuck would see them there?


[19-Apr-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Force should be used to disperse these.


[19-Apr-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
out here it;s mostly farm land and houses dotting the landscape


[19-Apr-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the main problem forcing appart most of these is the "armmed protestors" bit. "Protestors" of which probably have an itchy trigger finger


[19-Apr-20 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be one thing if it were all consenting adults there, yeah, sure fire into the crowd to protect your freedom. But a lot of protestors dragged their children along either for sympathy support or as tiny living meat shields


[19-Apr-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/04/coronavirus-pandemic-is-giving-people-vivid-unusual-dreams-here-is-why/

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The pandemic is giving people vivid, unusual dreams. Here’s why.
Researchers explain why withdrawal from our usual environments—due to social distancing—has left dreamers with a dearth of “inspiration.”
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[20-Apr-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Last night I was road tripping through the Congo and in search of a rare airplane and found a Whataburger


[20-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
wtf


[20-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel really weird. Everyone's talking about this whole thing like it's some kind of new age


[20-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and I'm literally living as I always did


[20-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
like, this headline. Like, what on earth...


[20-Apr-20 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Two nights ago i dreamed i was in Serbia


[20-Apr-20 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In a lakeside town in a rainy day


[20-Apr-20 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Makes me wanna go to Serbia now


[20-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Huh?! What do you mean having dreams every night isn't normal?!


[20-Apr-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah indeed, so weird that i dreamed of being in Serbia


[20-Apr-20 01:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As we all know, Serbia isn't real, it's just an extension of glorious strong Albania


[20-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am used to daily dreams... every night - is a gaming night (in dreams).


[20-Apr-20 01:30 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But I had occasional pandemic dreams, including getting coronavirus


[20-Apr-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dreams are usually really weird so there probably wouldnt be much difference


[20-Apr-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm living like I always did


[20-Apr-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
except more stressed and annoyed


[20-Apr-20 01:45 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No stress, no traffic, no stupid "preparations hour" for work, no boss breathing behind my back and no fear of looking at suggestive artwork or misposted stuff in sfw


[20-Apr-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm pretty much jsut as jobless as i was before


[20-Apr-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on the plus side i no longer have college unless i can find one that offers library science after the pandemic


[20-Apr-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
did yours finally cancel


[20-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we took our finals on wednesday the 8th because the school got restless about classes that couldnt be put online


[20-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and since it was my last final exam, i;m now officially out of college


[20-Apr-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the graduation ceremony has been delayed until probably late summer


[20-Apr-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i havent left my hosue since then outside of moving around my yard doing stuff


[20-Apr-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Apr-20 02:00 AM] ononim#8141
Imagine not having fantastical vivid dreams as the norm


[20-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is actually a great thing to have reduced dreams. Otherwise it feels like no sleep.


[20-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Opponent#3498
for me, the extremely vivid dreams provide the best rest, at least for the body (not nessesarily the mind)


[20-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's not common :sad:


[20-Apr-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493601-trump-some-governors-have-gone-too-far-on-coronavirus-restrictions

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Trump: Some governors have gone too far on coronavirus restrictions
President Trump on Sunday said he believes some governors have "gone too far" in imposing restrictions meant to slow the spread of the coronavirus.
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[20-Apr-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well dump them children in a meat grinder and sacrifice grandma, We have an economy to save!


[20-Apr-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/493600-us-coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-40000

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US coronavirus death toll surpasses 40,000
The death toll from coronavirus in the U.S. surpassed 40,000 on Sunday.
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[20-Apr-20 02:33 AM] ononim#8141

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[20-Apr-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
based


[20-Apr-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Apr-20 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Every day I find more reasons to thank my past self for not getting involved with facebook and twitter


[20-Apr-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/19/us/louisiana-pastor-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-trnd/index.html

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A Louisiana pastor who defied state orders and repeatedly held large church services during the coronavirus pandemic is now asking congregants to donate their stimulus checks to the church.
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[20-Apr-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/pfogL9n

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Here we go again
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[20-Apr-20 03:27 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) wanna donate stimulus checks to derpi devs such as byte?


[20-Apr-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even get a stimulus check


[20-Apr-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s based on tax history and my tax history of the last 2 years outside of sales tax is a blank fucking slate since i share a house with my parents


[20-Apr-20 03:30 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-will-continuously-look-for-ways-to-expand-his-power-because-he-loves-it-so-much-presidential-historian/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Presidential historian Michael Beschloss explained during an MSNBC interview Sunday that in 100 years, there will be people looking back at President Donald Trump and will see him as the person who could have done things that helped the coronavirus crisis, but didn’t. “In that...
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[20-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/493609-sanders-asks-for-donations-to-reelect-members-of-the-squad

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Sanders asks for donations to reelect members of 'The Squad'
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) put out a fundraising call using his campaign's email list Sunday night, imploring supporters to split a three-way donation between members of "the Squad."
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[20-Apr-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Apr-20 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jbrowder1/status/1251726587210412032

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[20-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
btw, that landlord that used their tenant's social security number to look up if they received their bailout check apparently got arrested


[20-Apr-20 06:28 AM] byte[]#2610
yes because that's illegal


[20-Apr-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
yes, fraud is illegal


[20-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Treascair#7785
oh good, I hadn't heard they got arrested


[20-Apr-20 07:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
faith in humanity now up to 0.2%


[20-Apr-20 07:19 AM] Swift Blaze#0969
That’s higher than my faith. And twice my current optimism.


[20-Apr-20 07:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, new zealand exists


[20-Apr-20 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Does it?


[20-Apr-20 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
This meme brought to you by MapsWithoutNZ


[20-Apr-20 10:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-death-threats-governors-good-people-2020-4

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Trump defends people resisting coronavirus lockdowns — says they're...
Trump defended the protests that have been held in several states, some of which prompted death threats against Democratic governors.
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[20-Apr-20 10:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/l8RuzKO

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Counter protest
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[20-Apr-20 10:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound in source


[20-Apr-20 10:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
sooo medics doesnt let cars to pass because?


[20-Apr-20 10:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because there's a crosswalk


[20-Apr-20 10:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
note the car in *front* of the crosswalk that is stopped


[20-Apr-20 10:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but also, they're counter-protesting


[20-Apr-20 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 nurses are counter protestign the dumbASSes by standing in the way of their vehicles so they can't get to the protest or block shit off


[20-Apr-20 10:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
namely, an intersection that is essential for EMS to use


[20-Apr-20 10:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's some work being done to try and figure out who ultimately funded the campaigns that started these protests, but it's a bit of a moot point now that the president himself has fully endorsed them


[20-Apr-20 10:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also worth noting that the medics were apparently only standing there during red lights


[20-Apr-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Apr-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
> *Pssss "Subsidize the salmon industry"


[20-Apr-20 11:27 AM] Opponent#3498
is this supposed to be sarcasm? Becuase it reads like a solid endorsement.


[20-Apr-20 11:28 AM] Opponent#3498
perhaps bear wisdom is what would carry us in these trying times.


[20-Apr-20 11:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bear will guide us to the light


[20-Apr-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/boston-globe-obituary-16-pages-coronavirus-2020-4

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The Boston Globe published 16 pages of obituaries for coronavirus v...
More than double the same time last year.
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[20-Apr-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Apr-20 01:10 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, 'we want to work' ('or else the banks will take our houses') sounds much less petty.


[20-Apr-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but such is the nature of propaganda memes


[20-Apr-20 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, now if only they were saying that


[20-Apr-20 01:17 PM] Opponent#3498
well some of them do


[20-Apr-20 01:17 PM] Opponent#3498
but yeah, plenty of petty morons too


[20-Apr-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and soemhow people have connected this to 2nd amendment rights which i dont see how that works


[20-Apr-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They ask us to stay inside to avoid infection, THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE OUR GUNS!"


[20-Apr-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I dunno


[20-Apr-20 01:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If they used their 2nd amendment to amend the situation with  banks...


[20-Apr-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-remain-months-government-minister-oliver-dowden-2020-4

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The UK coronavirus lockdown could remain for months as Boris Johnso...
Boris Johnson is concerned that lifting restrictions early would risk a second peak of infections which would overwhelm the National Health Service.
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[20-Apr-20 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/493592-koch-backed-group-to-spend-millions-promoting-changes-to-health-system

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Koch-backed group to spend millions promoting changes to health system
The political arm for the network of groups helmed by Charles Koch is launching a multi-million dollar advertising and lobbying campaign to promote changes to the health care system aimed at providing additional flexibili
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[20-Apr-20 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
just a glance at the article shows that they aren't actually trying to fix it, only make it cheaper


[20-Apr-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The political arm for the network of groups helmed by Charles Koch is launching a multi-million dollar advertising and lobbying campaign to promote changes to the health care system aimed at providing additional flexibility for health workers and patients.
> 
> Americans for Prosperity (AFP) plans to spend millions of dollars on television and digital advertising, lobbying efforts, and engaging its 2.2 million activists to promote the changes, believing the health care industry’s response to the coronavirus outbreak has exposed deficiencies within the system.
> 
> AFP is seeking to increase access to telehealth by removing occupational licensing restrictions doctors currently face. The group will advocate to make permanent recent changes at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that allow for more rapid testing, treatment and prevention of disease.
> 
> In addition, AFP will urge lawmakers to make it easier for patients to receive experimental and early-phase treatments that have proven to be safe. And they’re promoting a Base Realignment and Closure-style commission to analyze restrictions within the health system they believe have hampered the response to the coronavirus.


[20-Apr-20 01:30 PM] Crow#5457
the changes they're proposing just make it cheaper for healthcare companies, it doesn't actually fix it


[20-Apr-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[20-Apr-20 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
removing licensing restrictions makes it way easier to basically import health workers from other countries for way cheaper


[20-Apr-20 01:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Whatever they do, is basically to improve ways to screw the average Joe.


[20-Apr-20 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
and making it easier to receive experimental treatments, while a good thing in the cases of people who are rapidly just going to fall dead from their illnesses, also allows for what amounts to unethical human experimentation with treatments that might not even work to begin with


[20-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
trump made a good change a year or two ago where it allows for people with near-immediately deadly conditions to receive experimental treatments


[20-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In long run even better, so they have even more patients!


[20-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
but this change makes it sound like they want to reduce restrictions for all cases


[20-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
More cancer patients!


[20-Apr-20 01:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Vivat la capitalism.


[20-Apr-20 01:37 PM] Opponent#3498
they'll die eventually anyway


[20-Apr-20 01:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And will part foolishly with their money in false hope.


[20-Apr-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/493417-usoil-hits-new-18-year-low

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US oil prices hit 18-year low
U.S. crude oil prices slipped to a new 18-year low on Friday, ending the week on a decline.
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[20-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
so they simply weren't trading when the Russia/Saudi thing went down?


[20-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd expect lowest to be then


[20-Apr-20 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
removing occupational licensing restrictions for medical staff is a misdirection to try to get you to not notice that it's not the medical staff who are taking your money


[20-Apr-20 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
it's the insurance companies and hospital administrators


[20-Apr-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/493622-fda-allows-novartis-to-test-hydroxychloroquine-against-covid-19

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FDA allows Novartis to test hydroxychloroquine against COVID-19
The U.S.
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[20-Apr-20 02:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Such a labor cheapening endeavor is the fate of STEM


[20-Apr-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-delays-tariffs-coronavirus-companies-taxes-china-trade-war-2020-4

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The White House stalls tariff payments for pandemic-battered firms ...
Companies looking to utilize the 90-day delay must show "significant financial hardship" related to the COVID-19 outbreak, the Treasury said.
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[20-Apr-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493633-health-care-workers-block-protesters-challenging-stay-at-home-order-in

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Health care workers block protesters challenging stay-at-home order...
Health care workers blocked protesters challenging stay-at-home orders in Denver on Sunday, according to video and photos shared on social media.
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[20-Apr-20 03:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[20-Apr-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
wonder what constitutes 'significant financial hardship' proof.


[20-Apr-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Apr-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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so shocked
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[20-Apr-20 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Things that really didn't age well

A sign on a women's march on the 8th of March: "Your machism kils more than the coronavirus"
That march is credited with being one of the main spreading factors for the virus in Spain, with hundreds of thousands attending from all parts of the country (to which they returned after the march ended)

Spain had 55 deaths due to "gender violence" in 2019, highest number in years
Virus has killed almost 21k people in just two months

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[20-Apr-20 04:35 PM] illumnious#7938
*niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice* call https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1252243673867313152?s=21

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[20-Apr-20 04:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait what?


[20-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US crude oil prices


[20-Apr-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Have dropped to about $10 a barrel


[20-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's what shocked me, a sharp drop


[20-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If prices don't at least triple very soon, a whole lot of phat companies in the US are going to go bankrupt and trigger a domino effect


[20-Apr-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's literally nowhere to put all the excess oil saudis have been pumping out with the accompanying cratering of demand


[20-Apr-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right now the ships carrying oil are probably the main consumers of said oil...


[20-Apr-20 04:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Now they are going to dump excess?


[20-Apr-20 04:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Like with that milk and fries?


[20-Apr-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Where


[20-Apr-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
All the world reserves of oil are completely full


[20-Apr-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Oil prices are negative


[20-Apr-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Nobody wants to take it


[20-Apr-20 04:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It means they are going to pay us for purchase?


[20-Apr-20 04:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Stonks.


[20-Apr-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd sooner light it on fire


[20-Apr-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
No they won't pay you


[20-Apr-20 04:52 PM] byte[]#2610
They pay the people who buy it in billion barrel quantities


[20-Apr-20 04:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Still they have to pay the buyer if the price is negative.


[20-Apr-20 04:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I hope this will fill up SA reserves that were sold off without authorization.


[20-Apr-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there wont be selling if they all go bankrupt and kill off their companies


[20-Apr-20 04:55 PM] byte[]#2610
OPEC is all government oil monopoly


[20-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to the Koch thing, yes it looks like their whole plan is to strip away actual FDA testing and restrictions


[20-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, what big pharma wants is to remove R&D costs by just selling you a placebo with marketing


[20-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FDA is an impediment to that because it demands actual data of effectiveness.


[20-Apr-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Charles Koch wants the FDA to just be bribable so that your placebo can be mass-marketed to kids with autism as a cureall for their symptoms.


[20-Apr-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
And for that to be 100% legal


[20-Apr-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
In his eyes, Johnson & Johnson did nothing wrong.


[20-Apr-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a Koch world, we respond to pandemics by stuffing everyone full of whichever drug the president has money in until they die.


[20-Apr-20 06:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
More people die, but the president makes more money.


[20-Apr-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And drug companies too, so the line goes up.


[20-Apr-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the ultimate "sacrifice people for the line" approach; remove all the barriers keeping capitalism from straightup murdering people for money in healthcare.


[20-Apr-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
American capitalism is so damn illogical it's absurd


[20-Apr-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To continue extorting money from your workforce, you need them to, well, not fucking die


[20-Apr-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When even the capitalists start believing in their own class propaganda, you know shit's gonna explode some day down the line


[20-Apr-20 06:55 PM] Midknight#9798
unfettered capitalism is every bit as bad as unfettered socialism. moderation, letting the two extremes keep eachother in check... makes far more sense


[20-Apr-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Unfettered socialism"


[20-Apr-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No such thing


[20-Apr-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read Marx's writings on it


[20-Apr-20 06:56 PM] Midknight#9798
pedant.


[20-Apr-20 06:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Moderation and civility are merely a tool to keep revolutionary action in check


[20-Apr-20 06:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And, trust me, the US *needs* revolutionary action now more than ever


[20-Apr-20 06:57 PM] jlun2#8758
So, Trump is going to bail out all those fracking companies right?


[20-Apr-20 06:57 PM] Midknight#9798
no just the ones he owns stock in


[20-Apr-20 06:57 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm convinced "Moderation and civility" is code for old white men


[20-Apr-20 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It pretty much is, and has been since time immemorial


[20-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not directly.


[20-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Midknight#9798
that makes zero sense. You're accusing trump & cohorts of being moderate and civil


[20-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moderation and civility is code for not challenging what old white men want.


[20-Apr-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, when old white men yell, they are "justifiably angry"


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
When a blakk guy yells about how they're treating him, he's "being uncivil"


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, that blakk guy shouldn't've stepped out of line by trying to vote or whatever.


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] Midknight#9798
I literally do not see it that way, so bringing it up now is just insulting


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I do not see it that way"


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] Midknight#9798
you're imputing alternate meanings into a word i used


[20-Apr-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It doesn't matter


[20-Apr-20 07:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Expose your arguments about what it actually means, then


[20-Apr-20 07:00 PM] Midknight#9798
"fuck your feelings" eh? Right back atcha


[20-Apr-20 07:00 PM] Midknight#9798
see? I did the same thing to you that you just did to me. ^_^


[20-Apr-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[20-Apr-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm asking you to explain what you feel civility is


[20-Apr-20 07:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie did just that, so it's your turn @Midknight


[20-Apr-20 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nvm they here


[20-Apr-20 07:07 PM] Midknight#9798
And that is why when the bullshit starts I just don't bother ^_^ *Mwah~!* troll all ya want


[20-Apr-20 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bro


[20-Apr-20 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You bothered when i criticized capitalism


[20-Apr-20 07:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You made an input


[20-Apr-20 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So decide if you want to commit


[20-Apr-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The gop and their owners basically want the citizens to be civil to them and while they do all their misdeeds


[20-Apr-20 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
civility:formal politeness and courtesy in behavior or speech.
it's another rules for thee, not for me thing


[20-Apr-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the elite is always the one to set the rules for courtesy


[20-Apr-20 07:13 PM] Midknight#9798
I'm mostly miffed at the implication that I'm a gop/trump supporter.

If you put trump in my crosshairs, the only reason I wouldn't pull the trigger is because I'm actually a decent human being who'd like to just live and let live


[20-Apr-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another example would be a child being civil to their parent while their parent is abusive and uncivil towards them, If the child ever becomes uncivil(I.E: sticks up for themselves), the adult beats them instead of taking the "civil" option


[20-Apr-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember when apartheid South Africa's head of state in the 60's, Verwoerd, stated that his racial separation policies were "mere good neighborliness"


[20-Apr-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's this at work


[20-Apr-20 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Midknight i understand


[20-Apr-20 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But there are people who'd prefer to fucking chop every single GOP politician's heads off with a guillotine


[20-Apr-20 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Upon taking a deep gander at what nefarious stuff they've done since Barry Goldwater


[20-Apr-20 07:14 PM] Midknight#9798
and while I wouldn't cheer them on, I wouldn't raise a hand to stop them either


[20-Apr-20 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good


[20-Apr-20 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Let them do their job


[20-Apr-20 07:15 PM] Midknight#9798
unless they started going beyond just the gop who've done bad things. then I'd break out the safe queens


[20-Apr-20 07:15 PM] Midknight#9798
because anarchy is bad


[20-Apr-20 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, the rich democrats will just be stripped of all their wealth and power and made equal to everyone else


[20-Apr-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493647-fauci-warns-protests-against-against-stay-at-home-orders-will

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Fauci warns protests will 'backfire,' slow economic recovery
Anthony Fauci, the top government official on infectious diseases, warned Monday that protests in opposition to governors' stay-at-home orders meant to slow the spread of the coronavirus will "backfire" and further delay the reopeni
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[20-Apr-20 07:19 PM] jlun2#8758
wow he's not fired yet


[20-Apr-20 07:19 PM] Midknight#9798
don't worry, it's safe to hold your breath until he is


[20-Apr-20 07:19 PM] Midknight#9798
he dared speak Truth to Trump


[20-Apr-20 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fauci has been a mixed bag for trump, Trump probably wants to fire him immediately, but several advisers have warned him that it would be a nail in his political coffin while other advisers have cheered on the prospect of his firing. so it;s a matter of how long Trump can hold off his impulses.


[20-Apr-20 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i give him till the end of this week


[20-Apr-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fauci is also one of the reasons his press breifings havent devolved into total chaos yet, because everytime he speaks, it settles down a little


[20-Apr-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/white-house-worried-trump-inspired-protests-will-blow-up-in-his-face-if-attendees-are-stricken-with-covid-19-nyts-haberman/

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White House worried Trump-inspired protests will blow up in his fac...
Appearing remotely on CNN’s “New Day” New York Times White House correspondent Maggie Haberman claimed that senior officials in Donald Trump’s administration are deeply concerned about the possibility of a coronavirus outbreak afflicting supporters who have flocked to the stre...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/trump_protest.jpg


[20-Apr-20 07:38 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought Trump was politically invincible; he's fine


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Midknight#9798
Trump encourages Trumpards to gather and protest. Trumpards suffer disproportionate plague deaths. Trumpards lose election.

...keep it going, O Orange One!


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
that sounds too logical for real life


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Midknight#9798
It is


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
chances are, this'll boost his election chances


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Midknight#9798
In real life, they spread it to other people too


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
even better boost


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Midknight#9798
so the deaths are a wash


[20-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Midknight#9798
because it spread through everyone


[20-Apr-20 07:44 PM] jlun2#8758
the more people that die, the more conservative remaining ppl get == more trump voters


[20-Apr-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
early in the pandemic, Trump asked aloud if they could just let the plague wash over the US population


[20-Apr-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-considered-allowing-the-coronavirus-to-wash-over-the-us-2020-4

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Trump reportedly asked Dr. Anthony Fauci whether it was possible to...
Last month President Donald Trump controversially touted the idea of letting the coronavirus spread without introducing tough lockdown measures.
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[20-Apr-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, on the moderation/civility thing


[20-Apr-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
what I mean is like, why you see questions about it thrown at Bernie


[20-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were a solid 5 minutes about bernie bros at one debate.


[20-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Questioning why Bernie's supporters are "so angry" and "so mean" etc.


[20-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's supporters are on average not any angrier or meaner than those of any other candidate.


[20-Apr-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
(this was measured, it was within margin of error for the method used)


[20-Apr-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you hav people condemning Bernie supporters for being angry, but they're not angrier than other supporters.


[20-Apr-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That thus means the condemnation is not against the *amount* of anger, but the *things they are angry about*.


[20-Apr-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden supporters are angry about saying we need to replace Obamacare with other stuff. Bernie supporters are angry we aren't replacing it.


[20-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It can thus be surmised that when most people refer to civility, they are referring to how you shouldn't attakk the status quo.


[20-Apr-20 07:51 PM] jlun2#8758
> you shouldn't attakk the status quo
that sounds like my parents :sad:


[20-Apr-20 07:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically: "I don't want no transsexual predator in my bathroom" - not considered angry, just considered "reasonable" by most. "I think people should be able to chose the bathroom they want" - considered angry, unreasonable by most.


[20-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Midknight#9798
everything you say seems backwards to me


[20-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Midknight#9798
but at least you're being civil about it 😛


[20-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.macrotrends.net/2566/crude-oil-prices-today-live-chart

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Crude Oil Prices Today - Live Chart
Live interactive chart of West Texas Intermediate (WTI or NYMEX) crude oil prices per barrel.


[20-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Jeez what just happened?


[20-Apr-20 08:02 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Oil prices plummetted even further


[20-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bakkwards is a lot of American politics.


[20-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pay attention.


[20-Apr-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
opec oil trade war + lack of demand due to covid + american companies keep pumping more


[20-Apr-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
daddy trump will probably bail them out tho so no worries?


[20-Apr-20 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of oil being produced but going nowhere fast


[20-Apr-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can try, but it would be a temporary measure at best if saudi arabia and russia keep up their side of the assault on oil prices


[20-Apr-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also this  anti lockdown protesting is goign to spike the population cases massively which in turn is going to further drive down oil sales because people wont be driving


[20-Apr-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
> people wont be driving
they'd probably drive more in protest tbh


[20-Apr-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that will start to dwindle as more get sick or die


[20-Apr-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be easier to set fire to a bank, than to bailout the oil industry


[20-Apr-20 08:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
WTI oil costs next to nothing!


[20-Apr-20 08:11 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ they probably set oil on fire than to sell it for sub $1


[20-Apr-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we can use the burning oil to set the banks on fire


[20-Apr-20 08:12 PM] jlun2#8758
they will be stopped by people who can't comprehend the concept of fiat money and think you're physically burning their deposited money


[20-Apr-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
which I'm sure is almost every boomer


[20-Apr-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we can use the burning oil to set interlopers on fire


[20-Apr-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```"Unfettered socialism"
No such thing```


[20-Apr-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
moderation is a trigger word


[20-Apr-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
but the idea is correct. Both extremes suck for different purposes.


[20-Apr-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
'hybrid' is a synonym free of any 'old white Nebbies' connotations


[20-Apr-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1252298267007877124

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https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1252298267007877124
**BREAKING: PRICE FOR WEST TEXAS OIL FOR MAY DELIVERY GOES NEGATIVE**  

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[20-Apr-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does this mean that gas stations have to pay you when you fill up your tank? :pudding:


[20-Apr-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/michiganders-approve-of-whitmer-on-coronavirus-despite-protests-poll-2020-4

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Despite high-profile protests, Michiganders overwhelmingly approve ...
A poll from the Detriot Regional Chamber found that 57% of Michiganders approved of Whitmer's handling of the crisis compared to 37% who disapprove.
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[20-Apr-20 08:37 PM] jlun2#8758
> old white nebbies


[20-Apr-20 08:39 PM] Cloudy#3004
tis time


[20-Apr-20 08:39 PM] Cloudy#3004

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[20-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Cloudy#3004
lets open up the Derpibooru warehouse and stockpile some barrels


[20-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
btw


[20-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
this basicly means all the environmental agreements are dead.


[20-Apr-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
people _will have to_ ramp up oil consumption.


[20-Apr-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because it's impossible to just...stop producing oil. In some cases this is true


[20-Apr-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but, like, the places that *can* just stop aren't OPEC


[20-Apr-20 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
producing at a loss for some time and expecting it to go back positive is more attainable for most oil companies than shutting down


[20-Apr-20 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
as is true for most businesses, honestly


[20-Apr-20 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just that fixed cost overhead for oil is monstrously high


[20-Apr-20 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/StevePrediletto/status/1252298820525920257

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[20-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
🛢️ :loss:  🦀 🎊


[20-Apr-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
the chart on oilprice.com for WTI is broken


[20-Apr-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't know how to display a percent loss that caused the price to go negative


[20-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
oilprice fails to open 504 error


[20-Apr-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://oilprice.com/

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Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com
Crude oil prices & gas price charts. Oil price charts for Brent Crude, WTI & oil futures. Energy news covering oil, petroleum, natural gas and investment advice
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[20-Apr-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
NYTimes displays it correctly


[20-Apr-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610

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[20-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
huh


[20-Apr-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah someone probably crashed their site


[20-Apr-20 09:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
weird IP address


[20-Apr-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
which is kind of ironic given that it's nearly all static content anyway


[20-Apr-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I checked and they aren't using cloudflare


[20-Apr-20 09:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
their ip address is 3.136.218.244


[20-Apr-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
one of the GE range IPs


[20-Apr-20 09:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why


[20-Apr-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
no that's not why, they're probably getting a huge flood of traffic due to the oil price crash


[20-Apr-20 09:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I see.


[20-Apr-20 09:14 PM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Apr-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/maryland-larry-hogan-coronavirus-test-kits-south-korea-2020-4

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[20-Apr-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
@illumnious


[20-Apr-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
📉


[20-Apr-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
oilprice.com isn't the only website having issues right now


[20-Apr-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.redditstatic.com/youbrokeit2.png

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[20-Apr-20 09:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes stonks


[20-Apr-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/8-million-restaurant-workers-out-of-work-industry-seeks-support-2020-4

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8 million restaurant workers have been laid off or furloughed due to the coronavirus pandemic, with roughly two out of three employees out of a job.
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[20-Apr-20 09:22 PM] Midknight#9798
baroysters? Is that what happens when barristas go bad?


[20-Apr-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
WTI now at -37.4


[20-Apr-20 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610

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[20-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Cloudy#3004
poggers


[20-Apr-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Midknight#9798
vore fetishists

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[20-Apr-20 09:57 PM] ononim#8141
Urge to ping Lb rising


[20-Apr-20 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[20-Apr-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
ty\


[20-Apr-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-face-coverings-coronavirus-penal-code-wearing-masks-loitering-2020-4

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[20-Apr-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is why america sucks at plagues


[20-Apr-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
among other far larger reasons


[20-Apr-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Apr-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Mom come pick me up i'm scared"


[20-Apr-20 11:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1252046878314770432?s=21

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[20-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Midknight#9798
oh hay look there's a random load of steaming horseshit on twitter


[20-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Midknight#9798
that never happens!


[20-Apr-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
On this 4/20, let us remind ourselves that 47 of the 50 states have legalized marijuana in some way

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[20-Apr-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These can't be real

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[21-Apr-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
peak boomer meme


[21-Apr-20 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
GIVE ME FUCKING OIL


[21-Apr-20 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
GIVE IT TO ME


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I WANT A HOUSE, DAMMIT


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ich brauche öl


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Öl


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
I WILL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wK6s-6cbo

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Shoot: Mid August 2005, 3 days
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[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
THROUGH TOWN


[21-Apr-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
TO GET DAS ÖL


[21-Apr-20 12:03 AM] ononim#8141

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[21-Apr-20 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My teacher's saying this sharp drop in oil price might actually be a ploy by the oil industry and their financial fronts to drive prices back up eventually


[21-Apr-20 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like an indirect "fire sale" of sorts


[21-Apr-20 12:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oil doesn't just drop this much in price out of the blue


[21-Apr-20 12:20 AM] jlun2#8758
so are we going to go electric car yet


[21-Apr-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The oil industry? Manipulating markets? Suuuuuureeellyyyy noooooot.


[21-Apr-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope that isn't your economics or political theory teacher


[21-Apr-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah


[21-Apr-20 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
C O N S U M E    T H E    B O R D I G A    C H A L I C E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kluI8TORVfs

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Amadeo Bordiga - Party and Class
Party and Class, written 1921 by Amadeo Bordiga
Read for free online: https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1921/party-class.htm

All text credited to Marxists Internet Archive
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[21-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can you imagine Trump as president if there's a world war


[21-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Nazi Germany invades France, Paris' pleas for help responded by Washington with 'what are you paying us?'"


[21-Apr-20 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine Trump handling Pearl Harbor


[21-Apr-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He bitches about China being an expansionist empire in the same breath as he bitches that we're providing defence support for allied countries close to it


[21-Apr-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
ugh


[21-Apr-20 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Yeah, sure, sure, they bombed Hawaii, but the stock market's doing great right now! Also the Japs are very, very good partners of us."


[21-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Military might actually do a coup were that to happen.


[21-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Listen, I've had some good conversations with the emperor, he's a great friend, a great person. We just finished a trade deal, and it's looking good for our farmers, really good, things are going to be booming like nobody's ever seen before. Really, historical. So we're monitoring the situation, what's going on in Pear Harbour, and in Pearl Harbour too. Beautiful place, really good people there, great people. So we're looking at what's happening and we'll see what we do, but things are going so good, so good right now. Next question, no, not you, fake news, in the back, yes, OAN, go ahead."


[21-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
```"Nazi Germany invades France, Paris' pleas for help responded by Washington with 'what are you paying us?'"```


[21-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
that's literally what they did though wasn't it


[21-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
everyone lost WW2 and US won it.


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US paid for Soviet military machinery tho


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They just shipped a lot of arms into Moscow


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Helped beat the nazis


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WW2 wasn't a purely altruistic endeavor, sure


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But better to have empires you know in Europe than the unpredictable nazis


[21-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
WW2 was a chance to win Europe economically.


[21-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rebuilding of western europe was unprecedented as far as investments go


[21-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you did anything resembling that today, Republicans would cry socialism so loud their heads would explode.


[21-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
well, they feared communism just _that much_ it seems.


[21-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure you could sell ideas like these even today, if backed by mortal fear.


[21-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So much they gave them P-40s and tanks


[21-Apr-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Today's republicans would have helped Nazi Germany instead of the USSR tbh


[21-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, but they would demand we not get involved


[21-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And start writing up trade policies


[21-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just tell Republicans UBI and universal healthcare are necessary to stop socialism.


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah but


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
the best thing?


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To them these things *are* socialism


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
**you wouldn't be wrong.**


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Call them universal business-starting individual grants.


[21-Apr-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the next level.


[21-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Purchase Power Incentives, American Consumer Freedom Checks


[21-Apr-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
Freedom dividends


[21-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
National Capital Reinvestment Plan

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[21-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them the only way to stop Chinese produce is nationalized grocery stores.


[21-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Show them evidence of China trying to buy out Walmart.


[21-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Specifically Tencent


[21-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bluesnews.com/s/210230/call-of-duty-vietnam-rumor


[21-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god, I can't wait for the tact and accuracy Activision Blizzard will portray the Vietnam war with...


[21-Apr-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna be 0 blakk soldiers.


[21-Apr-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Vietnam is infamous as far as wars go because it was unusually racially diverse...only rich white guys could draft dodge and most soldiers were drafted)


[21-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's been answering a softball question from OAN for 12 minutes now


[21-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"answering"


[21-Apr-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's going all over the place well beyond what the question was to just congratulate himself for over ten minutes about *everything*


[21-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And he ends it


[21-Apr-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a bitch coward of a man


[21-Apr-20 02:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[21-Apr-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-to-open-gyms-nail-salons-bowling-alleys-and-more-on-friday-2020-4

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Georgia to open gyms, nail salons, bowling alleys and more on Frida...
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp announced Monday that gyms and barbershops can open Friday, with theaters and restaurants opening next Monday.
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[21-Apr-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52346447

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At least 18 killed in Canada's deadliest shooting
The 12-hour rampage by a man dressed as a policeman ended with a car chase before he was shot dead.
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[21-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
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[21-Apr-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Apr-20 02:51 AM] jlun2#8758
wealthy boomers


[21-Apr-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
white privilege https://i.redd.it/qs4yf72rf1u41.jpg

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[21-Apr-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Apr-20 02:52 AM] jlun2#8758
pretty much @byte[]


[21-Apr-20 02:53 AM] jlun2#8758
then the police would likely pat themselves on the back for protecting people from covid


[21-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds pretty spot on


[21-Apr-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Apr-20 03:02 AM] jlun2#8758
Let me guess. The christains are going to win the lawsuit because 🇺🇸


[21-Apr-20 03:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why is that protestor shouting "go to China" to a healthcare worker


[21-Apr-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸


[21-Apr-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
that's all you need to know


[21-Apr-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because this happens everytime it;s pointed out to conservatives that america isnt as great a place as they think it is


[21-Apr-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If you want bad, just go to chainer and narth koriah!"


[21-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
usually followed by "America is the best country in the world!" *lists a bunch of made up bullshit china did with no proof to back it up instead of anything china actually did*


[21-Apr-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“Tis the times' plague, when madmen lead the blind.”
-William Shakespeare


[21-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The "We live in a society" of 16th century England

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[21-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-politics-idUSKBN223011

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North Korea's Kim getting treatment after cardiovascular procedure:...
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is receiving treatment after undergoing a cardiovascular procedure early this month, a South Korean media report said, amid speculation over Kim's health following his absence from a key anniversary event.
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[21-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kim Jong Un might be close to RIP


[21-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/trumpnationalreview_04202020getty.jpg?itok=E-t_BZ9L

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[21-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
insert "The president should not really be able to criticize the media" rant here


[21-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd have nothing to do all day if that were so


[21-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good, because he and any other president shouldn't have the power to get anything done even if they do.


[21-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president has "neither eyes to see nor tongue to speak" that isn't for their constituent's best interests. Anything else uttered should be grounds for removal.


[21-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically what you want to do


[21-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is make the presidency such an unappealing position that no one but public servants already used to pain would want it


[21-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sports teams exist for egotists to buy, not government positions.


[21-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>local bdsm enthusiast only man qualified for highest office in the land


[21-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lel


[21-Apr-20 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493803-louisiana-to-allow-some-non-essential-medical-procedures-to-resume

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Louisiana to allow some non-essential medical procedures to resume
Louisiana's governor said Monday that the state will soon allow hospitals to resume some elective procedures, a boon to facilities struggling to make ends meet amid the coronavirus outbreak.
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[21-Apr-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?s=20

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?s=20
In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!
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[21-Apr-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, all he wants are illegal immigrants who can't report to any authority or organize a strike


[21-Apr-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The legal ones are expendable


[21-Apr-20 04:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you write a Lyndon LaRouche fanfic crossed over with Native American orientalism
https://youtu.be/U2yqryICA_g

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Chapo Trap House - Steven Seagal's Novel
The Dry Boys discuss Steven Seagal's novel, The Way Of The Shadow Wolves.

UPDATE: PART 2 https://youtu.be/_ijluP9jXRE
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[21-Apr-20 05:13 AM] jlun2#8758
wanna try


[21-Apr-20 06:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I remember I've seen the same analysis a month ago


[21-Apr-20 07:00 AM] illumnious#7938
lolwhut https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1252417321685053440?s=21

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...He is Strong on Crime, the Border, and Second Amendment. Mike has my Complete and Total Endorsement! Turn your Ballots in now and track them, watching for dishonesty. Report to Law Enforcement. https://t.co/MEnGMv3wTT
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[21-Apr-20 07:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1252417320347033614?s=21

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.@MikeGarcia2020 will be a tremendous fighter for the U.S. and the State of California. An Annapolis graduate, he served our Country as a highly decorated Navy Fighter Pilot and will be a great Congressman (#CA25). Loves our Military, and Vets...
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[21-Apr-20 08:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/493812-trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-temporarily-suspending

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Trump says he will sign executive order temporarily suspending immi...
President Trump on Monday said he will sign an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States amid the coronavirus pandemic, an extraordinary move that prompted immediate questions about its timing and scope.
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[21-Apr-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
No longer useful


[21-Apr-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Just an excuse for unabashed discrimination


[21-Apr-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://qz.com/1841535/scotus-chief-roberts-takes-aim-at-gorsuch-in-epa-superfund-case/

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US Supreme Court chief John Roberts takes aim at Neil Gorsuch’s “ev...
The chief justice skewered his colleague and defended the Environmental Protection Agency.
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[21-Apr-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, Gorsuch + Thomas said that the EPA shouldn't be involved in how land is cleaned up, just state courts where company lawyers can piecemeal everything apart.


[21-Apr-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Roberts is mad because he wants Federalism in his particular brand of bowing down to corporations.


[21-Apr-20 08:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really, really do not get Thomas.


[21-Apr-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Gorsuch literally believes that EPA superfund sites are unconstitutional land seizure. How dare the federal gov't intervene on toxic waste, that's property people can own!


[21-Apr-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure what Thomas' deal is, maybe he's just anti individual.


[21-Apr-20 08:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas was a federal judge for not even 18 months, and never even really wanted to be that.


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't like that the federal gov't has a say in things.


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I looked up his weird autobiography thing he did


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He never _really_ was into this


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, if EPA superfund sites were in any way reduced in effect


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would completely destroy my town within a decade.


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just hates white liberals a lot basically because Anita Hill


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, spiteful.


[21-Apr-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the Republican plan to win Montana btw


[21-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joe Biden being president is probably something that would give him a stroke.


[21-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Selectively gut EPA programs where liberals liv.


[21-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
While riling up people where conservatives liv.


[21-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[21-Apr-20 08:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They are gearing up for a massive urban and suburban revolt within a decade


[21-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts is basically seen as a traitor for this


[21-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
he allowed people in nowhere to hav a nice, controlled, coordinated gov't presence in their battle with a company to fix pollution.


[21-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's against the plan.


[21-Apr-20 08:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Roberts just wants his book to write in a decade where he goes "oopsie poopsie tried to keep the Court nonpartisan but didn't work, really sowwy uwu"


[21-Apr-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is squarely that, yeah.


[21-Apr-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically said NO NO FEDERALISM GUYS HOLD BAKK ON THE DESTRUCTION OF RIGHTS JUST A MOMENT


[21-Apr-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana Supreme Court is absolutely gonna say those property owners hav only the right to not immediately die on contact with the soil.


[21-Apr-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
EPA will approve some tiny cleanup operation right as Republicans stall budget increases.


[21-Apr-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
After 20 years, some places still won't be able to grow trees.


[21-Apr-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah, Thomas is just really anti individual


[21-Apr-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think the world he wants to create would have ever resulted in him reaching the position he did.


[21-Apr-20 08:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yet he blames white liberals for everything and calls them the actual racists.


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think he wants like, the people involved in this case to band together, form a company, and THEN sue


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
or individually sue, all lose.


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
With the gov't never getting involved except to tell them no.


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't want Miranda rights because "oh just sue the cop"


[21-Apr-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, this is about like 90 people saying "you dumped shit in my bakkyard pls clean up"


[21-Apr-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then company going WHOA WHOA GUYS SEE CAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT WE DON'T NEED NO EPA INVOLVEMENT WE'LL JUST UH SETTLE THIS REAL QUIET LIKE


[21-Apr-20 08:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't drink a glass of what you dump without dying horribly, you shouldn't dump it.


[21-Apr-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's like arbitration vs. class action, but with the wrinkle that because it's, you know, making land not toxic, it can't stay quietly confined to the state.


[21-Apr-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wrinkle is where Gorsuch and Thomas get mad.


[21-Apr-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're pretty much saying the EPA is unconstitutional in its entirety.


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically no government agency has control ever


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the idea.


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anywhere but DC and government property


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go on state land, any enforcement of federal laws is seizure of the state's land.


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not even gov't property


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So no federal drug laws then


[21-Apr-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's basically saying only DC and territories.


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or federal criminal statutes


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And maybe embassies.


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or federal prison


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah. That's what Gorsuch and Thomas believe.


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If there's this little the federal government can do to help states


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should states even stay in the US?


[21-Apr-20 08:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is the benefit of paying taxes to DC?


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch and Thomas would probably cream themselves if the US dissolved.


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ultimately what they want.


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd be the Supreme Court of like one small region


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A rump US


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And there's a shitty EU analog or something


[21-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
when a trukker stops a vehicle cause it's out of control


[21-Apr-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but drives away without the trailer so he doesn't freeze to death


[21-Apr-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the company-owned state executes him for disloyalty.


[21-Apr-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the federal gov't goes to make sure the Chinese don't invade.


[21-Apr-20 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But the company owned state has a private military


[21-Apr-20 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So why have a federal government


[21-Apr-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The state's military is for lynching undesirables.


[21-Apr-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The federal military is for protecting the contiguous border of everything north of Mexico.


[21-Apr-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The states would be for a time busy competing to grab up parts of Canada, as well.


[21-Apr-20 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah the Maritimes and British Columbia would go quick


[21-Apr-20 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alberta would have a second civil war type scenario over it


[21-Apr-20 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For the oil sands


[21-Apr-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the federal would deal with disputes between states.


[21-Apr-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like if they start going to war, it would decide who wins.


[21-Apr-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't stop the war, just make sure it doesn't result in something resembling fairness or too much damage.


[21-Apr-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Thomas/Gorsuch dream.


[21-Apr-20 08:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Over 800k already

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[21-Apr-20 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll get worse as states open up


[21-Apr-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Gorsuch just wants to rule that Florida should giv up its panhandle.


[21-Apr-20 08:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mentioned this in another server but


[21-Apr-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I find it really amusing that all of these preppers have waited so long for this but apparently never considered "Oh shit, what if I'm in my bunker for a month or two and need a haircut?"


[21-Apr-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're middle class idiots.


[21-Apr-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people basically made sure they have years of food but not how to handle simple shit


[21-Apr-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just like, don't think about the luxury services they use that poor people don't.


[21-Apr-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the poor person rice cooker problem in reverse.


[21-Apr-20 08:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is?


[21-Apr-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Why can't poor people just cook rice?" - Karen, head of the homeowner's association etc. etc.


[21-Apr-20 08:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can cook rice in a microwave, which is a much more versatile appliance btw


[21-Apr-20 08:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[21-Apr-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you need a shitton of rice, a rice cooker, a home to do that in, several hours a week where you can make sure nobody rampages thru the kitchen, something to do while waiting, a fridge to store the rice in, spare bowls for it, and various condiments and spices for the actual dinners, along with time each night to prepare them.


[21-Apr-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people will not hav all this.


[21-Apr-20 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah I see


[21-Apr-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, poor people even if they like rice will be eating shit from boxes of instant rice etc.


[21-Apr-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
A seemingly very simple solution to the poor person's problem could take a year of preparation.


[21-Apr-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas it'd take a few days for a middle class person.


[21-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point being it's hard to comprehend being in a different social class with access to different knowledge and resources and such.


[21-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially rich -> poor.


[21-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rich do not understand what poor people cannot do.


[21-Apr-20 08:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if trivialization of the poor does it, like "Kids starving in Africa" etc


[21-Apr-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that complex.


[21-Apr-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you're rich, you just aren't going to face challenges with doing stuff.


[21-Apr-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to imagine what you've never experienced or seen someone else experience.


[21-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody on like a soap opera struggles to cook rice.


[21-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
When shows show homeless people or similar, they make massively wrong assumptions about capability and even basic preferences.


[21-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, look at FiM


[21-Apr-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trixie goes on a trip with limited money and buys specialty brand haycakes.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man this just reminds me of the time I came home and my roommate said "I think I may have broken the microwave, I was just trying to make rice and now it smells"


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't anything like how someone in her social status would actually behave.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy had put a whole metal pot in the microwave.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note she didn't even bring any food.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know how you get to your mid 20s and don't know you can't do that.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho the haycakes are like, a powder you mix up seemingly.


[21-Apr-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
She just set out with money that could be robbed and was sufficient to buy a days' food.


[21-Apr-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of a brand she likely would've never seen before cause of geography...


[21-Apr-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing about this makes sense for Trixie's actual situation.


[21-Apr-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It only makes sense for a rich white dumb fukkhead who writes for Hasbro cartoons.


[21-Apr-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And who one time went to Canada and had to bring money to spend on the same brand that they buy in the US but were a bit short for everyone in the car.


[21-Apr-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trixie tried to kill herself because of a friendship problem with the first real friend she ever had


[21-Apr-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's not all there


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, but like, consider the geography problem.


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trixie has no reason to hav ever been that far south.


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is there a specific brand she likes there?


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It only makes sense from the context of modern brands, multinational corporations.


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same potato chips in London, New York, San Francisco, and Albequerque, etc.


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember "50 cities of Equestria?"


[21-Apr-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point is


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone wrote what they knew


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
and what they knew doesn't resemble how poor people actually behave.


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor how things work in less modernized urbanized settings.


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
White kids in California high school drama clubs don't know life confirmed


[21-Apr-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what those writers are, even though they are 20 years older


[21-Apr-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also consider that like


[21-Apr-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
After the haycakes and juice, and Starlight's spur of the moment purchase


[21-Apr-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are out of food entirely...except a carrot.


[21-Apr-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE CARROT GETS THROWN INTO A FIRE


[21-Apr-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casually, as a bit of a remark on the current conversation.


[21-Apr-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then after that, food is never a problem for the rest of the episode, which takes place across another 2 days.


[21-Apr-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the main igniting source of the entire conflict just evaporates into nothing.


[21-Apr-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because again, rich white bitch doesn't actually know that you can be truly out of food.


[21-Apr-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In her mind, Trixie has a whole pantry up her ass, essentially.


[21-Apr-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And is just annoyed that the particular brand of haycakes are gone, and that Starlight's a bitch.


[21-Apr-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bitch who has a whole other pantry up her own ass.


[21-Apr-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So does it make sense now why preppers don't imagine not being able to just go to the salon, @Itsthinking?


[21-Apr-20 08:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[21-Apr-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also in case you don't realize the scale of the shelteredness


[21-Apr-20 08:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems simpler though, just like how they would pack a checker board and pack of cards and call it a day


[21-Apr-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
nearsightedness and allergies are conditions that basically can only happen if a child never leaves their yard except to go to school


[21-Apr-20 08:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looks like preppers did not prepare for solitude


[21-Apr-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are now among the most common ailments in western countries.


[21-Apr-20 09:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, the Miyazaki/Miyamoto complaints


[21-Apr-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And China now is getting a severe problem with nearsightedness.


[21-Apr-20 09:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both of them got inspiration for creations from the real world


[21-Apr-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, parents there are told to not let kids outside.


[21-Apr-20 09:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Miyazaki noted that people making now get inspiration from the works of others


[21-Apr-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep them inside studying as much as possible, avoid air pollution and dangers.


[21-Apr-20 09:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also as long as we're talking about weird shit in FiM as it relates to the creators being odd


[21-Apr-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, not seeing bright light (like the sun) makes people become nearsighted. Possibly an adaptation from the days when caves were common shelters.


[21-Apr-20 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Saffron Masala episode, where the point was that foreign things can be good and everyone really wants it deep down


[21-Apr-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In tribal societies, very few people under 30 need glasses.


[21-Apr-20 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saffron tastes soup with a spoon and then _puts it back in the pot, intending to serve from it_


[21-Apr-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I've noted before


[21-Apr-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
FiM is terrible at food in general.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Food safety, affordability, nutritonal balance, etc. are all never addressed.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Tribal societies did not have books or computers to spend days without break.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Occasionally you get characters being annoyed they can't buy all the food they want.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Books or computers do not cause nearsightedness.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only thing that the censors cared about was fire


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But being outside seems to prevent it.


[21-Apr-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And helmets I guess


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
FiM's diets are terrible in case you didn't notice, Its.


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Every fire shown on screen has to be shown being safely put out" was a rule


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like nothing but sweet treats.


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No shit. I thought they were going to have an ep about it eventually


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things range from "pastry" to "frosted pastry" to "fruit"


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But I guess Pinkie getting diabetes doesn't sell toys


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's worse than Pinkie


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
when we see the princesses eating


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's nothing but fruits


[21-Apr-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Twilight eats nothing but fruits, pancakes, and pastries


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Apple family eats the same


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if they all operate like Bender and sugar is the primary thing they need and vegetables etc are actually bad for them


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That must be how it is right


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vegetables are only seen being bought


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
never eaten.


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except by animals.


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Fluttershy buys carrots...for Angel.


[21-Apr-20 09:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
She herself just eats cupcakes and shit


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rabbits aren't even supposed to eat carrots


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the first ep


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the first foods we see are a variety of pastries


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
which Twi is overfed on


[21-Apr-20 09:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
the next set of food, in the same ep, is cupcakes **and coconut rum Bloody Marys**


[21-Apr-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Spike isn't just getting absolutely piss drunk


[21-Apr-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
he's doing it with more sugar than normal.


[21-Apr-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean this is all part of the "ooh magical ponies they eat nothing but gumdrops and cupcakes and poop rainbows" cultural norm.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but it's really, really pervasive.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breakfast foods are always pancakes.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it's funny.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
PANCAKES WITH JUICE


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't even get shown drinking milk like at all.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well it's weird because cows are sapient.


[21-Apr-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beverages are always sugary


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but Pinkie has an explicit convo about a cow getting milked as a normal part of society.


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...did we ever see any pony just drink water?


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think once or twice?


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think we did, a few times.


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Trivial Pursuit etc.


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
water that's laid out when you can't hav proper food and beverages.


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But anything that's like a meal


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's juice


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think maybe milk was seen once with cookies.


[21-Apr-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't know you could burn juice


[21-Apr-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drinking water isn't done for hydration, but to deal with a dry throat, I think in all the times it's seen.


[21-Apr-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual beverages are always sugary, even the clearly alcoholic ones.


[21-Apr-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bloody Marys are normally made with vodka.


[21-Apr-20 09:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those are more salt than sugar but yeah


[21-Apr-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the green bottles in the first ep hav a coconut martini cup on the front


[21-Apr-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That can only mean coconut rum.


[21-Apr-20 09:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is a kids show... They put whatever is attractive to kids.


[21-Apr-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure kids are not supposed to be drinking coconut rum.


[21-Apr-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very odd choice because vodka bottles are normally clear and would actually be better disguised as being just water or some kind of generic juice.


[21-Apr-20 09:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does it says so on the label?


[21-Apr-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The label shows a coconut martini cup.


[21-Apr-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
FiM for translation purposes avoids actual text.


[21-Apr-20 09:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You guys overanalyze kids show


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Maybe it is just a hiddlen joke for adults you know


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of all of this is that the writers are rich people with no perspective.


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The individual joke doesn't matter.


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Of course.


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Rich" in comparison to most yeah


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is literally every time food is shown, it's sugary as shit for no explicable reason other than the writers don't understand basic nutrition.


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're starving artists


[21-Apr-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which ironically, rarely starve


[21-Apr-20 09:17 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What do kids like? Sugary shit parents denied them back then.


[21-Apr-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the most likely explanation is that they themselves, when given the option, always pikk sugary shit, and only end up buying stuff like vegetables and wheat bread to lower the overall expenditure.


[21-Apr-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also quite possible they do pretty much only consume what the ponies do, but also with meat.


[21-Apr-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if you're upper middle class, pancakes and bacon for breakfast followed by a token apple and a cake for lunch, then dinner involves getting wasted at a bar with friends is entirely possible.


[21-Apr-20 09:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also colorful.


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The weird part is the breakfast.


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they were heavily, heavily discouraged to use the color green in anything


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pancakes are not colorful, nor all that desirable.


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not as much as they were in pony design


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause green is poison?


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Green ponies were a massive no no


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're ugly and don't sell well.


[21-Apr-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tree Hugger lol


[21-Apr-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Larson's original idea made more sense but Hasbro liked the weed joke


[21-Apr-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Originally a cannabis leaf for a CM, later a smoke tree etc


[21-Apr-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Martha Stewart pony would have made more sense but dude weed lmao


[21-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers remember hippies etc.


[21-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I suspect the pancakes is a thing where they just couldn't come up with alternatives.


[21-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is a stoner the nemesis of a being of chaos and not a perfectly prim and proper Martha Stewart clone


[21-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, there are not a lot of vegetarian breakfast options among what upper middle class people eat.


[21-Apr-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's eggs, pancakes, waffles, and cereal.


[21-Apr-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eggs would raise questions, cereal leads to crunching noises.


[21-Apr-20 09:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This discussion with class knowledge gap remeinds me of writing fanfic and I could not do it for lack of experience or requirement for extensive research of lifestyle.


[21-Apr-20 09:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But these writers just plop it with assumptions


[21-Apr-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The series I finished watching has a recurring restaurant they all go to, all the vegetarian in the group eats is parfaits and green juice


[21-Apr-20 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course it's supposed to show how podunk the town is and the joke always is how uncommon the order is


[21-Apr-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Schitts Creek btw)


[21-Apr-20 09:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Then we have "relatability principle " in writing.


[21-Apr-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My least favorite part of it is that probably the flattest character in the series that is the same joke for five seasons


[21-Apr-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two episodes before the finale you get a twist


[21-Apr-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To give her some sort of development


[21-Apr-20 09:27 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is cafe associated with usually? Desserts. Distinctive desert? Parfait.


[21-Apr-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except it doesn't really do anything


[21-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a shitty cafe in rural Canada


[21-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We have "characters went to a cafe"


[21-Apr-20 09:29 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Realism is not point of the story narration if it is not immersive or atmospheric.


[21-Apr-20 09:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what the twist is for this character who is a secondary in a good amount of the episodes of the series? I'm sure most people here won't watch it but I couldn't believe it


[21-Apr-20 09:30 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I haven't watched the second half of the s9


[21-Apr-20 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well this is a random Netflix series so


[21-Apr-20 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like two days before the main characters come to the town, she wins like $50 million in the lottery


[21-Apr-20 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't tell anyone for three years


[21-Apr-20 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just is a waitress at the same cafe as always


[21-Apr-20 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's an airhead who buys the cafe at the end and doesn't even understand why she would rename it after herself


[21-Apr-20 09:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like if Derpy were a major role I guess


[21-Apr-20 09:32 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Bad series.


[21-Apr-20 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Generally a good series actually, just a character I couldn't stand.


[21-Apr-20 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They realized they had done nothing but have her tell the same jokes for five seasons then scrambled to make the audience care about her two episodes before the finale


[21-Apr-20 09:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess she was supposed to be a flat character but still


[21-Apr-20 09:37 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Still sounds bad.


[21-Apr-20 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The series follows the trials and tribulations of the formerly wealthy Rose family when they are forced to relocate to Schitt's Creek, a small town they once purchased as a joke."


[21-Apr-20 09:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the synopsis


[21-Apr-20 09:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What was the original topic?


[21-Apr-20 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Preppers not preparing for haircuts.


[21-Apr-20 09:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However I did a discussion a while ago with coworkers about living in the office. We thought up everything in detail, including showers.


[21-Apr-20 09:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Preppers were amateurs. They did  not think of their daily routine in case of emergency.


[21-Apr-20 09:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Prepping is not just about food reserves. Online guides stress food and not anything else.


[21-Apr-20 09:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I bet they did not take power and water cuts in account.


[21-Apr-20 09:53 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As person living in the country, where power/water cuts are not that uncommon, I am prepped to have a hot bath and meal even without power or water supply.


[21-Apr-20 09:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Talking about luxuries, forget it.


[21-Apr-20 09:57 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Prepping also means preparing to leave luxuries and comfort.


[21-Apr-20 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, preppers are people whose knowledge of how to deal with society falling apart doesn't even get all the way thru the Fallout games.


[21-Apr-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure most of them stokk up on food but don't put a single thought towards water.


[21-Apr-20 10:57 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Romantization of apocalypse. That's it.


[21-Apr-20 10:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is pretty bad when most of your food is dehydrated stuff that you need water for.


[21-Apr-20 10:58 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
let's be honest though. did any of the doomsday preppers thank that tioletpaper would be rarer than diamonds?


[21-Apr-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd be surprised if most of them even considered how to hav a toilet without running water.


[21-Apr-20 10:59 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
lol same


[21-Apr-20 11:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And hence fallout games are romantization, I really don't appreciate fallout games or F:E.


[21-Apr-20 11:03 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
well fallout equestria is a joke anyway


[21-Apr-20 11:04 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
they have barely done anything to it


[21-Apr-20 11:04 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
the devs are either serious noobs or are lazy


[21-Apr-20 11:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I was talking about fanfics


[21-Apr-20 11:04 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
oh


[21-Apr-20 11:05 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
i just bust video games a lot so assumed you meant that


[21-Apr-20 11:05 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
but yeah the book was kinda bad


[21-Apr-20 11:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fanfics based on the game


[21-Apr-20 11:05 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
well the actualy book itself wasnt the greatest either. no offense to kkat


[21-Apr-20 11:06 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
and most of the offshoot stories are worse


[21-Apr-20 11:06 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
i had thought about writing my own extension to it


[21-Apr-20 11:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But what is a great book?


[21-Apr-20 11:13 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
specifically or what makes a book great?


[21-Apr-20 11:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What makes a book great?


[21-Apr-20 11:16 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
a story that makes you feel like you are there. one that captures your imagination and makes you feel every detail, the happiness, anger, sadness and makes you mentally experience every event in the story to its fullest capacity. a good book is one that you dont read. its one that you live.


[21-Apr-20 11:16 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
thats the cheesiest thing i have ever said...


[21-Apr-20 11:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Well said.


[21-Apr-20 11:16 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
ah


[21-Apr-20 11:16 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
i thought you were gonna laugh lol


[21-Apr-20 11:17 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
most people roll their eyes to that sort of thing


[21-Apr-20 11:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I do like books like this. Some fanfic capture universe very well, sometimes i forget after some time, if it was in the book or actual show.


[21-Apr-20 11:19 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
fandic xD


[21-Apr-20 11:19 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
i wanna write the worlds first fandic


[21-Apr-20 11:21 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
but yeah i love stories like this. if it is not not a story that you feel a deep connection t or can live then the writer doesn't know how to write from the heart with every emotion and memory pooled into the writing of the story.


[21-Apr-20 11:21 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
that is my rule for writing


[21-Apr-20 11:27 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not only this, but also good language usage


[21-Apr-20 11:28 AM] Cloudy#3004

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[21-Apr-20 11:28 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
yeah


[21-Apr-20 11:28 AM] Cloudy#3004
seems to be just US reporting tho


[21-Apr-20 11:28 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
hmmm


[21-Apr-20 11:28 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
its nbc


[21-Apr-20 11:29 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
so idk if its just fake news or not


[21-Apr-20 11:29 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wish we had "oc:downvote doubt" emote


[21-Apr-20 11:29 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
Daily NK, an online newspaper based in South Korea that focuses on North Korea, reports that Kim reportedly received a cardiovascular system procedure on April 12.
Kim received the cardiovascular system procedure because of "excessive smoking, obesity, and overwork," according to the news site, and is now receiving treatment in a villa in Hyangsan County following his procedure.


[21-Apr-20 11:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It needs to be official to extent by reputable agency.


[21-Apr-20 11:31 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
yeah


[21-Apr-20 11:32 AM] MurderMiner77#7210
daily nk is the closest to real you can get from the source itself but even they dont know so im just gonna keep an eye out. might be fake or real


[21-Apr-20 12:05 PM] Opponent#3498
```I don't think the world he wants to create would have ever resulted in him reaching the position he did.```


[21-Apr-20 12:06 PM] Opponent#3498
that would simply mean he's no longer needed :twiright:


[21-Apr-20 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We'd never get an official statement from NK until his successor suddenly appears and blames the US for murdering Kim roughly a month after his death


[21-Apr-20 12:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ooo boy. If it is true, there is going to be so much power fight in NK.


[21-Apr-20 12:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Will be interesting considering Kim made it a habit to murder or execute anyone that got too high in the ranks


[21-Apr-20 12:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Either going to be just 2-3 people that can take control, or several dozen


[21-Apr-20 12:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```So you need a shitton of rice, a rice cooker, a home to do that in, several hours a week where you can make sure nobody rampages thru the kitchen, something to do while waiting, a fridge to store the rice in, spare bowls for it, and various condiments and spices for the actual dinners, along with time each night to prepare them.```  very much nitpicky and offtopic, but you clearly haven't actually ever tried to do it :P


[21-Apr-20 12:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I did cook rice in a classic way.


[21-Apr-20 12:17 PM] Opponent#3498
I was referring to Nebbie; in my experience, just producing edible rice requires... none of the above except spices, really (spices I do believe improve life quality vastly in general)


[21-Apr-20 12:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No spices, it ruins versatility for later consumption


[21-Apr-20 12:20 PM] Opponent#3498
I was thinking just rice, nothing else. The quote considered it as a standalone food. But, yeah, it goes well with most anything too


[21-Apr-20 12:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I just thought about cooking rice in camping/mobile conditions. Should work.


[21-Apr-20 12:20 PM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[21-Apr-20 12:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And pasta too.

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[21-Apr-20 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe the scenario has "prepare rice for a week ahead of time"?


[21-Apr-20 12:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A cheap rice cooker or a pot will make two bowls of rice in 12 or so minutes


[21-Apr-20 12:28 PM] Opponent#3498
perhaps. but that would also makes no sense. The individual meal's worth of time and effort is so minimal, and rice tastes kind of like ass after a week (or almost any grain really)


[21-Apr-20 12:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does not work for me. The rice spoils even in the fridge quickly.


[21-Apr-20 12:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the person who does not have a fridge and storage space would rather cook it for the day for a couple portions.


[21-Apr-20 12:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And i take assumptions here, I do not know the person's cooking space availability, carry capacity.


[21-Apr-20 12:38 PM] Opponent#3498
raw grain is pretty compact to store, as long as the place's dry, has a shelf life in years, and is trivial to cook. If we're thinking someone who can't get _a_ bowl, some clean water and a half-n-hour a day's worth of access to a heat source, well.


[21-Apr-20 12:39 PM] Opponent#3498
also on that note


[21-Apr-20 12:43 PM] Opponent#3498
```Even tho the haycakes are like, a powder you mix up seemingly.
She just set out with money that could be robbed and was sufficient to buy a days' food.
Of a brand she likely would've never seen before cause of geography...
Nothing about this makes sense for Trixie's actual situation.```
- food can be robbed too. She herself can be turned into food and be 'robbed'. Money's more convenient to travel with and doesn't add any additional risk. 
- ponies can graze in temperate climates. Food's not a matter of survival, but of maintaining morale and higher quality of life.


[21-Apr-20 12:44 PM] Opponent#3498
one day you'll stop seing MLP as 'quadruped human US'. That day isn't today or tommorow, but it will probably come...


[21-Apr-20 12:44 PM] Opponent#3498
nah j/k


[21-Apr-20 12:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Headcanon in one of fanfics was that regular grass is not fit for consumption. Besides that, they were in desert.


[21-Apr-20 12:47 PM] Opponent#3498
oh. Well, fair enough.


[21-Apr-20 12:48 PM] Opponent#3498
still though, having basic 'survival' food, unicorn'ed for extra convenience (reduces space, indefinite shelf time, and so on, options are vast), plus having money to buy something tasty (ponies live and die by sweets, or so it seems) makes significant sense.


[21-Apr-20 12:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1252547765332324352?s=21

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It is amazing that I became President of the United States with such a totally corrupt and dishonest Lamestream Media going after me all day, and all night. Either I’m really good, far better than the Fake News wants to admit, or they don’t have nearly the power as once thoug...
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[21-Apr-20 12:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Goddam rump


[21-Apr-20 12:52 PM] Opponent#3498
they really don't.


[21-Apr-20 12:52 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not wrong, painful as it might be.


[21-Apr-20 12:52 PM] Opponent#3498
if they did have 'the power as once thought' he wouldn't be 49 to 51 or smth


[21-Apr-20 12:54 PM] Opponent#3498
he'd be Gabbard (of the Death Camps) level of meme, existing to poke fun at and nothing more


[21-Apr-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```Looks like preppers did not prepare for solitude```


[21-Apr-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
highly amusing btw.


[21-Apr-20 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
like, yeah you can probably not die on your own. But would you be able to _survive_? To _live_? This is a good dry run to test that matter.


[21-Apr-20 01:26 PM] Crow#5457
the reppers do not have enough peppers


[21-Apr-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/493823-house-expected-to-vote-on-changing-rules-to-allow-remote-voting

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House expected to vote on changing rules to allow remote voting
The House is expected to vote this week on changing its rules to allow members to vote remotely during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[21-Apr-20 02:01 PM] ononim#8141
>not having universal food brands across the country


[21-Apr-20 02:01 PM] ononim#8141
that's all


[21-Apr-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/20/kim-yo-jong-the-sister-of-kim-jong-un-fast-becoming-his-alter-ego

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Kim Yo-jong: the sister of Kim Jong-un, fast 'becoming his alter ego'
The North Korean leader’s trusted propagandist-in-chief is in the ascendancy
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[21-Apr-20 03:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Right.


[21-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[21-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
🛢️


[21-Apr-20 03:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Buying oil not only need not money, but also can get 40$ per gallon


[21-Apr-20 03:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
COMMUNISM

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[21-Apr-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9fe445bacb2a4638e7bf88bbeb835cb7

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States work to keep meat plants open despite virus outbreaks
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Governors in the Midwest are working to keep large meatpacking plants operating despite coronavirus outbreaks that have sickened hundreds of workers and threaten to disrupt...
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[21-Apr-20 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
m e a t    f u m e s


[21-Apr-20 03:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=490LiA8Km9A

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LISA: The Pointless - Meat Mill
For the update.


music by me

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[21-Apr-20 04:10 PM] illumnious#7938
DeSantis announces members of committee to reopen Florida
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/04/21/desantis-appoints-political-leaders-business-executives-to-re-open-florida-task-force/

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DeSantis announces members of committee to reopen Florida
Gov. Ron DeSantis appointed some of Florida’s most powerful political leaders and business executives to a committee that will map out the state’s reopening from the coronavirus shutdown.
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[21-Apr-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that picture makes him look like a Clem


[21-Apr-20 04:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/A-3P4-u_aSNeaRgPKq5xgqg

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Poison center calls jump 20% as Americans overdo cleaning products ...
U.S. poison centers received 45,550 exposure calls related to cleaners and disinfectants from January through March, a 20.4% increase from a year ago.
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[21-Apr-20 04:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh yeah, needles


Doctors: Execution drugs could help COVID-19 patients
https://www.local10.com/business/2020/04/21/doctors-execution-drugs-could-help-covid-19-patients/

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Doctors: Execution drugs could help COVID-19 patients
A group of medical professionals is asking death penalty states for medications used both for lethal injections and to help coronavirus patients who are on ventilators.
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[21-Apr-20 05:04 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/TheFucking_News/status/1252454065641938945?s=20

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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un recently underwent cardiovascular surgery that reportedly went fucking terrible and the cocksucker is now in critical condition
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[21-Apr-20 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
News on that is all over the place atm


[21-Apr-20 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spooks say he's in a coma, SK officials says he's fine


[21-Apr-20 05:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>fucking terrible 
>cocksucker
>the fucking news
Very professional and reputable. /s


[21-Apr-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, it is factual as far as we know, expletives or no


[21-Apr-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-ppe-testing-shortage-nurses-union-protest-white-house-2020-4

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Nurses are protesting 'grossly inadequate and negligent' PPE and co...
"Don't call me a hero," a New York City nurse told Business Insider. "Instead, show your support by believing us when we say we need much more PPE."
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[21-Apr-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Apr-20 05:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
did they seriously hand the kid a marker to make it seem like she wrote the sign


[21-Apr-20 05:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's not even the color of the last line of text so


[21-Apr-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it kinda just looks liek she was handed the sign, handed a marker, and told to "pose for the camera, sweetie!"


[21-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
none of that writing is blue either


[21-Apr-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
```Very professional and reputable. /s```


[21-Apr-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
what, do you want more professionalism and civility in your media? Don't you know it's a trigger word meaning 'old white men'? 😂


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it doesn't mean 'old white men,' it's a dogwhistle *for* old white men


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s for everyone else who isnt an old white man


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
basicly, unless you're an old white man, you don't get to be civil.


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I.. I am... I am old white man to you?


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:sad:


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
else you're branded a traitor.


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
opposite


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what they'd like you to believe


[21-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
MAKE YOUR CHOICE


[21-Apr-20 05:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
throw "moderation" on that pile too


[21-Apr-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if youre an old white man you dont have to be civil, everyone else has to sit down shut up and be civil


[21-Apr-20 05:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sign could be shopped tbh


[21-Apr-20 05:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
sign is not shopped


[21-Apr-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it could go either way but knowing these protests, i could buy it being real


[21-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
sign probably not shopped. It's likely a spur-of-the-moment idea


[21-Apr-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
"Hmm... Hey Harry, think it'll look better if we hand her a marker? Got any?"


[21-Apr-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably soemthing an antivaxx parent decided to do to get facebook famous


[21-Apr-20 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
they were lucky to get any marker at all I suppose.


[21-Apr-20 05:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, yeah...you know that antivaxxers think Bill Gates admitted that vaccines are used for depopulation, right?


[21-Apr-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i know antivaxxers beleive anything said tot hme in a negative light about vaccines


[21-Apr-20 05:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that's why bill gates specifically


[21-Apr-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[21-Apr-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The best part of US politics is hearing people say the Constitution is a perfect immutable document and then go on about how important the 1st or 2nd amendment are


[21-Apr-20 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
irony


[21-Apr-20 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
but nah, they don't see it.


[21-Apr-20 06:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
DC vs. Heller is a 2008 ruling, too


[21-Apr-20 06:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
These news with profanities remind me of dramatica encyclopedia level reporting.


[21-Apr-20 06:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Truthy,but may not be accurate.


[21-Apr-20 06:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493879-texas-lt-governor-on-reopening-state-there-are-more-important-things

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Texas lt. governor on reopening state: 'There are more important th...
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called for the reopening of his state and the country late Monday, saying there are "more important things than living.”
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[21-Apr-20 06:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which Monday? 20th or 27th?


[21-Apr-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking wh


[21-Apr-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is literally the "die for the line" meme


[21-Apr-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But unironic


[21-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
so they know exactly what they're doing.


[21-Apr-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
well, fair enough.


[21-Apr-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"This state may die, but that's a check i'm willing to take"


[21-Apr-20 06:49 PM] jlun2#8758
how many conservatives are out there


[21-Apr-20 06:50 PM] jlun2#8758
is that kid in the pic going to grow up as super conservative


[21-Apr-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not if their parents keep pushing shit like that on them


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>grow up


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably not


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, if that's all they're ever exposed to


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only thing anyone else is gonna expose them to is measles


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also attended an anti lock down protest, so they may never grow up at all


[21-Apr-20 06:53 PM] jlun2#8758
it's not the zoomer remover, they're fine


[21-Apr-20 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
young children have died from the virus


[21-Apr-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they do grow up they're probably gonna perish in the battlefields of the Second American Civil War. Or in a government torture camp for uttering subversive comments against president-for-life Trump.


[21-Apr-20 06:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or in a trailer park after a methhead breaks into their trailer


[21-Apr-20 06:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 they're white, they're probably not going to suffer a thing


[21-Apr-20 06:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or starving to death under a bridge in Detroit just like in 1930.


[21-Apr-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the antivaxxer wars of 2054


[21-Apr-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good times that havent happened yet


[21-Apr-20 06:58 PM] jlun2#8758
and the anti vaxers win ofc because 🇺🇸


[21-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's provided Trump doesnt try to replicate a home game version of nuking japan


[21-Apr-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by nuking democratic states instead of japan


[21-Apr-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
His base would just keep screeching #WINNING #OWNTHELIBTARS #LIBSARENTUSA and cheer


[21-Apr-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even as they all perish to the nukes


[21-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-madison-wisconsin-jail-threats-coronavirus-20200418-c3cwpvzqv5hixffgojgewfmso4-story.html

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Lawsuit alleges Wisconsin teen, parents were threatened with jail b...
A 16-year-old alleges in a federal lawsuit that a Wisconsin sheriff threatened her with jail if she didn’t remove Instagram posts.
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[21-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
So this is a juicy one


[21-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, high school goes for a trip, kid gets COVID-19, gets hospitalized


[21-Apr-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
she posts about it on instagram


[21-Apr-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
School says RUMOR LIES SLANDER, calls the cops on her


[21-Apr-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
cops tell her to remove the posts or face punishment


[21-Apr-20 07:48 PM] jlun2#8758
so did it work


[21-Apr-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, the cops are now facing a lawsuit that they will almost certainly lose.


[21-Apr-20 07:49 PM] jlun2#8758
holy shit for once justice?


[21-Apr-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But like, this is something that most law school students would go "that's completely unrealistic" towards


[21-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
the idea of threatening jailtime for someone telling the truth about having been hospitalized for a highly contagious illness is crazy.


[21-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wisconsin is a flyover state for a reason.


[21-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That is juicy


[21-Apr-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
"Hey, I got covid from a trip, any suggestions?"
"FBI OPEN UP!"


[21-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/patrickdan03082017getty.jpg

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[21-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
>"There are more important things than living"


[21-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
>literally doing nazi salute for picture


[21-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder what this could be an allusion to :ponythinking:


[21-Apr-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
they're going to say it's not nazi salute or some excuse


[21-Apr-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was simply hailing a cab onto stage, nothing more


[21-Apr-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
well it's not a nazi salute.


[21-Apr-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/south-carolina-gov-henry-mcmaster-reopens-beaches-nonessential-stores-2020-4

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South Carolina has already begun to reopen beaches, department stor...
Gov. Henry McMaster is slowly reopening parts of South Carolina's economy, similar to Georgia and Florida, including nonessential stores.
https://i.insider.com/5b32f5911ae66233008b4a3b?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Apr-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"So, how did you get the virus?" 
"I rushed the flower shop while yelling about how my hair needs to be cut"


[21-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> well it's not a nazi salute.
@Opponent of course not! He is just looking for Kyle, he is this tall.


[21-Apr-20 08:48 PM] Opponent#3498
no but seriously


[21-Apr-20 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
not every still image with a vaguely raised hand is a nazi salute :l


[21-Apr-20 08:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You even cannot show where to gtfo these days, sheesh.. this may be uses as smear fuel.


[21-Apr-20 08:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
quite honestly I'm more bothered by the smiling/clapping picture of Gov. McMaster than I am of the pic of Gov. Patrick addressing a crowd


[21-Apr-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-stimulus-loan-restaurant-loophole-explained-2020-4

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America's richest fast-food giants qualify for $10 million coronavi...
The program, intended to save struggling small business, included a loophole that allowed companies as large as McDonald's to get loans.
https://i.insider.com/5e9f09960fc63970ca183c94?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Apr-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
Mcdonalds is a small business ~GOP

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[21-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
does it say who included the loophole?


[21-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not really a loophole McDonalds operates as a Franchise, so Macca's corporate doesn't have a lot of employees but they licenece the name and property to other LLC's who have their own employees but aren't Macca's corportate employees


[21-Apr-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot fo fast food services do this for tax purposes


[21-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Honahue#0656
pretty much all of them do to my knowledge


[21-Apr-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which in turn also means they can call each franchise location a "small business"


[21-Apr-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should really fix that


[21-Apr-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently movie theaters do this too


[21-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Honahue#0656
that's the law, there was anti-trust action taken against theaters and movie producers way back when


[21-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Honahue#0656
used to be Paramount or whomever owned the production and distribution all the way down


[21-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Honahue#0656
clearly it only delyed complete ownership for a few decades as Disney basically controls the whole industry


[21-Apr-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/493950-meghan-mccain-lauds-trump-ad-roasting-pelosi-over-ice-cream-themed-interview-a

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Meghan McCain lauds Trump ad roasting Pelosi over ice cream-themed ...
ABC's Meghan McCain said Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) fell into a trap by doing a late-night TV interview that included a discussion about a stockpile of ice cream in her kitchen freezer.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mccainmeghan_07032019getty.jpg


[21-Apr-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont get the fridge thing


[21-Apr-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you could probably go into most politicians houses and they;d likely have a stockpile of atleast one food type


[21-Apr-20 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, pelosi has a lot of ice cream. this will tank her political career for sure!


[21-Apr-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you don't get it because it's not aimed at you


[21-Apr-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's supposed to show how Pelosi is completely out of touch with the "common man" - better to listen to the guy who likes hamburgers


[21-Apr-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a very convenient character attack


[21-Apr-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's what matters to people who listen to conservative outlets


[21-Apr-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
What do common americans even eat??? Mcdonalds 3 meals a day? Steak? Mash potatoes? Pizza slices?


[21-Apr-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the common man doesnt eat ice cream! no common man has ice crema stocked in their fridge!


[21-Apr-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493897-civil-rights-era-laws-against-masks-clash-with-federal-coronavirus-recommendations

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Civil rights-era laws against masks clash with federal coronavirus ...
Federal coronavirus guidelines that recommend wearing masks are posing a challenge for states that have laws on the books from almost a century ago against facial coverings as a way to crack down on the Ku Klux Klan.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/n95masks_040420getty.jpg


[21-Apr-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
laws that didnt at all stop the kkk from actually wearing masks


[21-Apr-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
oh shit I hope face mask don't become some new white symbol ew


[21-Apr-20 10:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/9NEkTi5O_hk

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Trump CRACKS, Implodes in Childish Tweet Storm
--Donald Trump implodes in a childish tweet storm about MSNBC, ratings, and "fake news" as nearly 2000 Americans die of coronavirus on the previous day
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Earlier on Twitter, he was promoting open re...
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[21-Apr-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually they became a symbol of disorder and mob violence by the government trying to quash political movements


[21-Apr-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why sick americans dont get to wear face masks to keep from spreadign that shit


[21-Apr-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can see how well that worked out by every right wing movement using a shit ton of facial coverings in every "protest"


[21-Apr-20 10:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
can you give me the not-clickbait version 'cause there's no way I'm subjecting myself to hearing someone talk about trump's twitter feed as though he will face any consequences whatsoever


[21-Apr-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Apr-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-white-house-wants-to-shield-employers-from-lawsuits-if-they-make-employees-sick-by-forcing-them-back-to-work/

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Trump White House wants to shield employers from lawsuits if they m...
President Donald Trump wants to see Americans sent back to work as quickly as possible — but he apparently also doesn’t want those workers to sue their employers if they happen to get sick from COVID-19 while doing so. The Washington Post reports that The Trump White House has...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/shutterstock_1636641802-1000x600.jpg


[21-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Midknight#9798
I keep ice cream in my freezer, not my fridge


[21-Apr-20 10:31 PM] Midknight#9798
Lasts longer 😛


[21-Apr-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/493971-georgia-faces-pressure-to-reconsider-its-reopening

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Georgia faces pressure to reconsider its reopening
Georgia is coming under pressure to reconsider its plans to begin allowing some businesses to open at the end of the week, even as the state has seen an uptick in coronavirus cases.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_atl_032620getty_georgia.jpg


[21-Apr-20 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/GrahamAllen_1/status/1252664001424695301?s=20

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Attorney General Bill Barr Threatens Legal Action Against Governors Over Lockdowns and says Businesses need More Freedoms

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[21-Apr-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most local businesses would actually like better safety nets rather thna being forced open


[21-Apr-20 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, more freedom to demand their workers fucking die


[21-Apr-20 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most large businesses want cannon fodder though, and that;s the main driver here


[21-Apr-20 11:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would also like cannon fodder but that's neither here nor there

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[21-Apr-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on top of barr threatening to sue governors, trump is trying to make it so no one can sue employers for forcing them back to work and getting their staff ill


[21-Apr-20 11:16 PM] Midknight#9798
disgusd


[21-Apr-20 11:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) let me guess. it passes


[21-Apr-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
debateable but we'll see


[21-Apr-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the gop tries to force that into a stimulus bill, it wont pass the house


[21-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/hydroxychloroquine-veterans-study/index.html

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Coronavirus patients taking hydroxychloroquine, a treatment touted by President Trump, were no less likely to need mechanical ventilation and had higher deaths rates compared to those who did not take the drug, according to a study of hundreds of patients at US Veterans Health...
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[21-Apr-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the moment it;s just trump blaring at the GOP to make it a law


[21-Apr-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god another breifing is happenign right now


[21-Apr-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not yet afaik, they usually kick off in 40 minutes or so


[21-Apr-20 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's see if someone asks him about this, will be interesting to see how he shifts blame to the media


[21-Apr-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the streams are in preshow stuff


[21-Apr-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a *lot* of political kindling building up right now. It's a tinder box. But so far I don't see that kind of thing doing anything more than adding to the pile


[21-Apr-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for how Trump will handle it, I feel like he'd sooner field a question from OAN praising him for over 10 minutes first than let any hard-hitting questions catch him off guard


[21-Apr-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if someone does try any hard-boiled journalism like "how do you feel about the weather" he'll just snap again


[21-Apr-20 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's not like we can ask Fauci about *this* in particular and get a useful answer


[21-Apr-20 11:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm just imagining "That's a very nasty question, a VERY nasty question. No surprise it came from you. You know, you people come here and you just say mean, nasty things, it's irresponsible. Next question you, no, no, you're done, you're done here. Such a nasty question. Disgusting"


[21-Apr-20 11:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He hasn't even been giving them that much time


[21-Apr-20 11:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that sounds like 5 reporters' worth of responses

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[21-Apr-20 11:41 PM] jlun2#8758
so are his followers going to stick with hydroxychloroquine since the "elites" said it has no effect?


[21-Apr-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will probably demand it if they fall ill, yes


[21-Apr-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because their god lord has demanded it and science is always wrong


[21-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
serves our purpose.


[21-Apr-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"the liberal media just doesnt want you buying hydroxychloroquine so they can do population control. It works they're just hoarding it from the masses so more people die off"


[21-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
my opinion would be, absolutely, by all means


[21-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Opponent#3498
you want it, you got it.


[21-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Midknight#9798
ya know what, they can go ahead and take it if they want it that bad


[21-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Midknight#9798
*~brohoofs Opponent~*

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[21-Apr-20 11:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86rcPcbgnnw

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[21-Apr-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only problem with thme taking it, is that people with lupus and malaria may face a large supply shortage


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because hydroxychloroquine is mainly used to treat those 2 diseases


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah but how bad of a problem malaria is now?


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
at least in US


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I imagine in tropic areas it's still relevant


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
malaria is still a thing


[21-Apr-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as is lupus


[21-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Malaria in the US, not very; probably just treated for people coming back from Africa


[21-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lupus is hella rare but you sort of die badly without meds


[21-Apr-20 11:55 PM] Midknight#9798
According to Dr. House, it's never lupus.


[21-Apr-20 11:55 PM] Midknight#9798
Except when it is.


[21-Apr-20 11:55 PM] Midknight#9798
But otherwise, never.


[21-Apr-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpPIQAxmsMM

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[21-Apr-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Apr-20 12:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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DISAPPEARED: Chinese bloggers Fang Bin & Chen Qiushi are nowhere to be found 2 months after reporting on coronavirus spread in Wuhan. 

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[22-Apr-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-governor-criticized-over-plan-to-begin-reopening-economy-2020-4

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Georgia's governor hit with wave of backlash over plans to begin re...
The World Health Organization warned against premature returns to daily life without thorough contact tracing.
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[22-Apr-20 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's an article on economic stimulus. To read it, give us money

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[22-Apr-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/493959-senate-passes-484b-coronavirus-relief-package

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Senate passes $484B coronavirus relief package
The Senate on Tuesday approved roughly $484 billion in new coronavirus aid for small businesses and hospitals and more funding for testing, ending a lengthy battle over the size and contents of the package.
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[22-Apr-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
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Woman opens fire on cell tower workers hundreds of feet in the air,...
Woman opens fire on cell tower workers hundreds of feet in the air, sheriff says
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[22-Apr-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql27tTteAkw

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The Left's Disneyfied Approach to Economic Crisis
The world's economy is headed for a massive crash and the left's understanding of economics is limiting its demands and imagination. We are living in a Disneyfied dream wherein we believe that capitalism's contradictions can be managed and that we can create a capitalism with ...
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[22-Apr-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah yes, McConnell, do go on about how the dems dropped "extraneous" things from the funding bill like hospitals and food stamp assistance


[22-Apr-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@ononim so...did anyone die


[22-Apr-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
and is this conspiracy even stopable


[22-Apr-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
or nah time to rebrand 5G


[22-Apr-20 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Long talk time while I do art. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpMv57-sR04

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Discussing "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace"
Ankur Dynanmote and Douglas Lain continue their irregular chat sessions with a conversation about Adam Curtis' "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace."
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[22-Apr-20 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Political-Philosophy/Economy related, of course


[22-Apr-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
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Circle of Dust - Machines of Our Disgrace (Official Music Video)
Purchase/Stream 'Machines of Our Disgrace':
https://fanlink.to/mood

Machines of Our Disgrace marks the 5th full-length studio album for industrial music pioneer Circle of Dust, after a near 20 year hiatus. Created by artist/producer Klayton, best known for his multi-genre pro...
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[22-Apr-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
suddenly relevant :D


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[22-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
@Raptorshy


[22-Apr-20 02:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Em... I don't understand


[22-Apr-20 02:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Women can't shit?


[22-Apr-20 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a joke


[22-Apr-20 02:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh yes fuck me until I can't shit


[22-Apr-20 02:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:nut:


[22-Apr-20 03:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't control your sphincter, then you do shit, when you don't want to shit.


[22-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That woman is known for two things: some BS drama involving freeze peaches, and shitting herself drunk at a party.


[22-Apr-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
plopped a giant log between her legs


[22-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She really hated it when safe spaces were coming to her college, then she tried to carry an assault rifle to graduation.


[22-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most recently, she did the usual "try to go to campus while being a fascist shithead, complain when people don't provide safe space"


[22-Apr-20 03:52 AM] illumnious#7938
> retard people watching FOX news and OANN is more likely die from covid-19
 https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/study-finds-people-who-watched-sean-hannity-were-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19

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Study finds people who watched Sean Hannity were more likely to die...
Anew study from the University of Chicago’s Becker Friedman Institute for Economics found that “greater viewership of ‘Hannity’ relative to ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ was strongly associated with a greater number of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the early stages of the pandemic.”...
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[22-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I had one of my last classes today


[22-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The class is about the legal history of America


[22-Apr-20 03:54 AM] jlun2#8758
> early stages of the pandemic
so that means they're fine now right


[22-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The professor didn't assign _Bush v. Gore_ but he assigned _Facebook v. Pacific Northwest Software_ (a company owned by the Winklevosses)


[22-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get where his logic was taking him


[22-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because in the world of internet that is more relevant


[22-Apr-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
"Winklevosses" sound like bully bait


[22-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Zucc was the real bully


[22-Apr-20 04:00 AM] illumnious#7938
finally good news https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/167248096164577280/702337824770228264/Screen_Shot_2020-04-21_at_9.56.17_PM.png

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[22-Apr-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-unsure-of-kim-jong-un-condition-2020-4

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'I wish him well': Trump says he's unsure of Kim Jong Un's conditio...
President Trump bragged about his strong relationship with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, adding he may reach out to him. "We'll see how he does."
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[22-Apr-20 04:07 AM] illumnious#7938
oh shit


[22-Apr-20 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Trump says he's unsure of Kim Jong Un's conditions


[22-Apr-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean


[22-Apr-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did they think he had the answer lol


[22-Apr-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5IoVaky

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Bob Brooks, in one photo, represents the ignorant & hypocritical dysfunction of the United States of America.
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[22-Apr-20 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not only that, it's a construction mask; if he's got it and doesn't realize it, that mask does nothing to protect anyone else


[22-Apr-20 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the caption is ever-so-slightly wrong but not as wrong as Bob

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[22-Apr-20 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Apr-20 04:33 AM] Crow#5457
> And a coward’s idea of a hero.


[22-Apr-20 04:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Crow I have fine control of my own sphincter to the point where I could catch a fly with it

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[22-Apr-20 09:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.iheartintelligence.com/woman-who-claimed-coronavirus-was-media-driven-hoax-dies-from-covid-19/

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Woman Who Claimed Coronavirus Was ‘Media Driven’ Hoax Dies From COV...
In a sad, cautionary story of ignorance, Karen Kolb Sehlke is dead from COVID-19 after claiming it was a hoax driven by the media and radicals in power
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[22-Apr-20 09:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hah. They strategically picked out all the civil responses


[22-Apr-20 09:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

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Christian Identity
Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity) is a racist, anti-Semitic, and white supremacist interpretation of Christianity which holds that only Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, Aryan people and those of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac a...


[22-Apr-20 10:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[22-Apr-20 10:19 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Apr-20 10:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Big brain comic


[22-Apr-20 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be pro- or anti-maga


[22-Apr-20 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
at first glance, it looks pro-maga


[22-Apr-20 10:26 AM] Crow#5457
but to anyone who recognizes the people in the last panel, it's obviously anti-maga


[22-Apr-20 10:27 AM] byte[]#2610
It's pro


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] Crow#5457
though to be fair I don't recognize the african dude in the last panel


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Mussolini


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] Crow#5457
wait what


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] Crow#5457
mussolini wasn't black lmao


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I know right


[22-Apr-20 10:28 AM] Crow#5457
oh, the 4th dude in the last panel is francisco franco


[22-Apr-20 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
I thought that was mussolini


[22-Apr-20 10:45 AM] ononim#8141
I think


[22-Apr-20 10:45 AM] ononim#8141
it's a joke


[22-Apr-20 10:45 AM] ononim#8141
referencing this one


[22-Apr-20 10:45 AM] ononim#8141
hold on


[22-Apr-20 10:47 AM] ononim#8141
grrr it's hard to DDG


[22-Apr-20 10:49 AM] ononim#8141
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[22-Apr-20 10:49 AM] ononim#8141
here


[22-Apr-20 10:49 AM] ononim#8141
@Crow


[22-Apr-20 10:51 AM] ononim#8141
notice how in byte's comic they included Franco, who wasn't actually part of Axis in WW2, despite that HoI4 playthrough may tell you, and he's taking place of vaguely latin dude in first panel


[22-Apr-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
I know


[22-Apr-20 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/VAUuZXl.jpg

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[22-Apr-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
they do kinda call everyone racist these days though.


[22-Apr-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
racist, fascist, nazi. Several answers are permitted.


[22-Apr-20 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
to the point where the kick is lost and people are starting to wear those with pride.


[22-Apr-20 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
do you have examples of people just blanket calling people racist/fascist/nazi without any evidence? I haven't seen that happening


[22-Apr-20 01:34 PM] Crow#5457
it seems to happen way more with communist/marxist/socialist/liberal/leftist


[22-Apr-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
do I need to link half the Twitter to you?


[22-Apr-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
do I need to point at Nebbie?


[22-Apr-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
do I really?


[22-Apr-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't seen nebbie accuse something of being racist/fascist/nazi without evidence


[22-Apr-20 01:44 PM] Crow#5457
hell, I've only seen like two or three cases of people accusing something of being racist/fascist/nazi without evidence on twitter, and they were all of the SJW type that are barely coherent to begin with


[22-Apr-20 01:44 PM] Opponent#3498
so, you think the entire history, since the dawn of time, is evidence onto itself that everything is about race. That's what Nebbie seems to believe.


[22-Apr-20 01:44 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, I cannot contest that.


[22-Apr-20 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
that's not what I asked you, you're doing that insane thing that SJWs and trumpanzees like to do by ignoring the discussion and jumping to wild strawmans, don't do that


[22-Apr-20 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
and even then, most stuff throughout history has been about race (or more specifically, ethnicity)


[22-Apr-20 01:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Ethnicity, or religion, or economics, or philosophy, or a myriad other things to justify exterminating 'others'.


[22-Apr-20 01:50 PM] Opponent#3498
it's also not a wild strawman, as the subject is readily available for procuring evidence.


[22-Apr-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
as for going out on Twitter and looking through all the shit out there...


[22-Apr-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it's an incredible waste of time even if I did frequent it.


[22-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, I asked you to provide me examples of nebbie accusing something of being racist/fascist/nazi without evidence, and you then just claim nebbie says everything ever is about race


[22-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
you say 'without evidence'.


[22-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
he's never without evidence.


[22-Apr-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
his evidence almost always sucks ass.


[22-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Opponent#3498
as he pulls random facts and arbitrarily assigns them to racism


[22-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Opponent#3498
it's self-evident.


[22-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
then provide me with examples where his evidence "sucks" then


[22-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Opponent#3498
what can I do or say to prove that?


[22-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Crow#5457
the thing about ass-pulled facts is that they're typically easily deconstructed using simple logic


[22-Apr-20 01:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well, too bad that trying to guess people's motivation isn't deconstructed that easily.


[22-Apr-20 01:54 PM] Opponent#3498
every specific case has to be studied to get a sense of local context.


[22-Apr-20 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
facts with no basis in reality don't hold up to scrutiny, it's why trump supporters get mocked a lot


[22-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
also re: facts and logic


[22-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I mentioned before my experience on a different pony discord.


[22-Apr-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
what does that even have to do with what I'm asking? you claimed nebbie says everything is about race without evidence, then said that nebbie always provides evidence but it's arbitrary/sucks ass and is made up, but once again that seems more like a deflection than an actual attempt to properly describe the problem you have with him


[22-Apr-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the owner was a avid fan of a concept of free market, among other things. Along with, you guessed it, facts and logic approach.


[22-Apr-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
only argue if you can produce counter-evidence... Using the definitions and metrics picked by him, and naturally favouring him.


[22-Apr-20 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
for instance, his argument about capitalism and free market (we never got deep enough to distinguish the two) was the entirely arbitrary self-serving metric by World Bank, with a poverty cut-off. That's it. Dozens of graphs on the same concept using the same definitions.


[22-Apr-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it's relevant because it's a very vivid example of 'facts and logic' approach failing horribly just like any other.


[22-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
but capitalism and the free market aren't arbitrary metrics


[22-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
there is counter-evidence of this


[22-Apr-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
poverty cutoff is.


[22-Apr-20 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
also it's extremely hard to distinguish market itself from technologic progress, for instance, improving food production etc. It's pretty damn hard to beat the argument that the poor get more food than like 100 years ago.


[22-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
the poverty cutoff isn't even arbitrary, it's based off of the cost of living (how much housing, food, utilities, etc all cost)


[22-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. No.


[22-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean kind of but not really.


[22-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Crow#5457
the poverty cutoff is also affected by the size of your household


[22-Apr-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the metric World Bank used though.


[22-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
it was 'earn X per day', I don't remember how much exactly.


[22-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
X, I'm not sure if it changed in recent years so it wasn't even inflation-adjusted I don't think


[22-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Poverty follows the laws of nature.


[22-Apr-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
we had a video here a couple weeks ago about that, China and it's poverty statistics


[22-Apr-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
this metric was mentioned there as well


[22-Apr-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
regardless, though.


[22-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie assumes everything is about racism. It's an axion. So, time and time again he'll deduce how exactly each discussed case relates.


[22-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But Instead of being strong, we put monetary wealth


[22-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
you can say, for example, no, their economy sucked so they decided to go rob people.


[22-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Crow#5457
hell, the only criticisms I've found of the world bank's metric is that it excludes too many people


[22-Apr-20 02:07 PM] Crow#5457
because it bases poverty on how much money is spent daily


[22-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
to which he'll respond, 'Ah, you might think you know it but you don't! They hated browns (or w/e) and everything else was secondary!'


[22-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Crow#5457
I've linked the southern strategy quote multiple times here, would you like me to link it again?


[22-Apr-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
so from here, you can have a circular argument or concede as there's no concrete proof. None. Even contemporary writings don't really do much here.


[22-Apr-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
the 'can't say nibba' thing? Yeah, I remember.


[22-Apr-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
that's republican US of 60ies


[22-Apr-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the world history since the dawn of time.


[22-Apr-20 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's been like that for all of modern (past 100-150 years) of history which is usually what's being discussed here


[22-Apr-20 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
because that's what's typically relevant


[22-Apr-20 02:11 PM] Crow#5457
the past 50-70 years have been about obfuscating racist policies by including some of the majority group


[22-Apr-20 02:12 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy>


[22-Apr-20 02:18 PM] Crow#5457
also, you still haven't actually given any examples of nebbie illogically twisting something into somehow being about racism when it's actually not, you've just stated how you feel it comes off as


[22-Apr-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
instead of going through backlog, I'll just challenge him next time and tag you. It'll be more fun.


[22-Apr-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-orders-us-navy-to-destroy-harassing-iranian-gunboats-2020-4

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Trump orders US Navy to 'destroy' any Iranian gunboat that harasses...
The order comes on the heels of an incident in which 11 Iranian gunboats harassed US Navy and Coast Guard vessels operating in the Persian Gulf.
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[22-Apr-20 03:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Relentlessbored/status/1252818020776333312

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i owe the Jurassic Park franchise an apology, it is in fact very realistic the rich would reopen a park in spite of it consistently resulting in mass death
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[22-Apr-20 03:47 PM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon


[22-Apr-20 04:24 PM] jlun2#8758
Sounds right.


[22-Apr-20 04:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Is that a threat talk?

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[22-Apr-20 04:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Got coronavirus? You may get a surprise medical bill, too https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/got-coronavirus-you-may-get-surprise-medical-bill-too-n1187966

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Got coronavirus? You may get a surprise medical bill, too
Doctors and hospitals must navigate dozens of insurance plans. Now amid COVID-19 those plans are changing, and doctors and hospitals struggle to keep up.
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[22-Apr-20 04:30 PM] illumnious#7938
In today’s episode of fuckery Trump: Trump tweets he’s ordered Navy to destroy Iranian gunboats
https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2020/04/22/trump-tweets-hes-ordered-navy-to-destroy-iranian-gunboats/

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Trump tweets he’s ordered Navy to destroy Iranian gunboats
President Donald Trump says he has ordered the Navy to “shoot down and destroy” any Iranian gunboats found to be harassing U.S. ships.
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[22-Apr-20 04:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[22-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[22-Apr-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pizza is super communism


[22-Apr-20 04:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The earth is communism


[22-Apr-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is by the very definition communism!


[22-Apr-20 04:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All of us use the oxygen from the same atmosphere paying no money


[22-Apr-20 04:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Earth is communism confirmed


[22-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pizza by default is made to share, ergo communism!


[22-Apr-20 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
However there was a movie where people paid for air, because air is polluted.


[22-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the lorax?


[22-Apr-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was a;lso a doctor who episode about that concept


[22-Apr-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
astronauts had to pay credits to keep using their suits life support systems


[22-Apr-20 04:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's fucking capitalism


[22-Apr-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, capitalism ruined the air supply


[22-Apr-20 04:56 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's OUR air!


[22-Apr-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
water is not a basic human right, so says capitalism!


[22-Apr-20 04:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Some russian movie that got rescued from a shed at back of studio.


[22-Apr-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-immediate-coronavirus-relief-national-debt-no-may-further-2020-4

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Mitch McConnell just threw cold water on the immediate prospect of ...
McConnell said there would not be another coronavirus relief bill until at least May, citing the national debt as "a matter of genuine concern."
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[22-Apr-20 05:23 PM] illumnious#7938
Uhhh

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[22-Apr-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
50th?


[22-Apr-20 05:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/neo-nazis-alleged-email-addresses-who-gates-foundation-nih-leak-2020-4

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Neo-Nazis have got hold of 20,000 leaked email addresses and passwo...
Organizations on the frontlines of dealing with the pandemic have been compromised.
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[22-Apr-20 05:29 PM] illumnious#7938
> 50th?
@prism stryder(intexda)  Earth Day


[22-Apr-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[22-Apr-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-mayor-open-casinos-close-with-most-infections-2020-4

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The mayor of Las Vegas wants to open casinos and let the number of ...
Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman has a bizarre idea on how to get casinos up and running while the pandemic continues.
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[22-Apr-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/treasury-mnuchin-consequences-big-companies-taking-ppp-small-business-loans-2020-4

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Treasury Secretary warns there will be 'severe consequences' for la...
There's been a massive public backlash over chains like Ruth's Chris and Potbelly receiving government loans meant for small businesses.
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[22-Apr-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll beleive it when i see it


[22-Apr-20 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840550059/missouri-sues-china-communist-party-over-the-coronavirus-pandemic

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Missouri Sues China, Communist Party Over The Coronavirus Pandemic
Missouri's attorney general alleges that China "engaged in misrepresentations, concealment, and retaliation to conceal the gravity and seriousness of the COVID-19 outbreak from the rest of the world."
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[22-Apr-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/california-deaths-earliest-in-us/index.html

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2 Californians died of coronavirus weeks before previously known 1s...
New autopsy results show coronavirus killed two Californians in early and mid-February -- before the previously understood first US death from the virus. This may change the understanding of how early the virus was spreading in the country, health experts say.
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[22-Apr-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> "Somebody who died on February 6, they probably contracted that virus early to mid-January. It takes at least two to three weeks from the time you contract the virus and you die from it."
> If they did not contract coronavirus through travel abroad, that also is significant, Jha said.
> "That means there was community spread happening in California as early as mid-January, if not earlier than that," Jha said.


[22-Apr-20 06:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can we just assume that California is fucked then :shrugpony:


[22-Apr-20 06:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the whole country is


[22-Apr-20 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this has been going on for months and with the exception of a few democratic governors, the response to the pandemic is actively making things worse


[22-Apr-20 06:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in some cases, possibly worse than it would've been if left entirely unchecked


[22-Apr-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now there's people actively sabotaging efforts to keep things in check


[22-Apr-20 06:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Man, I love Bordiga's burns.

> Precisely that is the honour, that we, in defiance of a bunch of dorks, bestow upon the “great Stalin.”


[22-Apr-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-groups-anti-quarantine-protests-states-violations-remain-despite-removals-2020-4

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Facebook is scrambling to squash online groups that are planning an...
Despite Facebook's ban on content that urges people to break stay-at-home orders or stop social distancing, protesters have found a space to organize.
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[22-Apr-20 07:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Shiiiit


[22-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
lol give me covid19


[22-Apr-20 07:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wonder how people survived this far


[22-Apr-20 07:55 PM] illumnious#7938

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[22-Apr-20 07:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay that's spicy


[22-Apr-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-states-bankruptcy-coronavirus-federal-bailout-economy-instead-aid-2020-4

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Mitch McConnell says cash-strapped states hit by coronavirus should...
"I would certainly be in favor of allowing states to use the bankruptcy route. It saves some cities," McConnell said on Hugh Hewitt's radio show.
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[22-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
can a state really declare bankruptcy?


[22-Apr-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.debtfreeohio.com/bankruptcy-information/bankruptcy/can-states-declare-bankruptcy/

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Can States Declare Bankruptcy? - Richard West Law Office
Can States Declare Bankruptcy? - Richard West Law Office
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[22-Apr-20 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy shit, the Las Vegas mayor is insane


[22-Apr-20 09:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This Anderson Cooper interview with her is amazing


[22-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Midknight#9798
don't you have to be to run a city in the middle of a desolate desert wasteland?


[22-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably


[22-Apr-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the fact that it's Vegas, I think, goes well beyond the geography of the town


[22-Apr-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there isn't a sane thing in the whole town


[22-Apr-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what happens in las vegas, stays in  las vegas. Because las vegas is an eldritch being that feasts on insanity and greed


[22-Apr-20 09:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/calebjhull/status/1253009342414098432?s=21

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Mike Pence in this clip 😂😂😂 https://t.co/QxxdjlnPix
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[22-Apr-20 09:33 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1253003224916901889?s=21

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President Trump: "We're doing something I love doing -- planting trees. I've always loved it." #EarthDay https://t.co/9YDjOMaSiE
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[22-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I bet he's never used a shovel in his life before this moment


[22-Apr-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Rump


[22-Apr-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Nah


[22-Apr-20 09:50 PM] Midknight#9798
CNN: "Trump Awkwardly Attempts To Do Real Work"
FOX: "BEST Shoveler That Ever Shoveled Anything Ever Shovels Again!"
OANN: "That Shovel Is Clearly a Leftist Agent Planted To Make The President Look Bad But He Owned It Anyway"
MSNBC: "Trump and Pence: Gay Lovers After All"

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[22-Apr-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Shovel files for sexual abuse after Trump manhandles it's length"


[22-Apr-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/494179-harvard-says-it-wont-accept-coronavirus-aid-after-trump-criticism

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Harvard says it won't accept coronavirus aid after Trump criticism
Harvard University will no longer accept funding allocated to it through a federal coronavirus aid package after President Trump questioned why the school needed assistance, given its large endowment fund.
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[22-Apr-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUiZOlABBoQ

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Vocal Synthesis
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Ayn Rand and Slavoj Žižek read "I Got You Babe" by Sonny & Cher (Sp...
The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using text-to-speech models trained on the speech patterns of Slavoj Žižek and Ayn Rand. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html
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[22-Apr-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494190-doctor-says-he-was-removed-from-federal-post-after-opposing-funding-for

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Doctor says he was removed from federal post after opposing funding...
The former head of the federal office that will be at the forefront of developing a cure for COVID-19 said he was forced out after he prioritized science instead of promoting unproven treatments.
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[22-Apr-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[22-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who use pie charts for overlapping data aren't welcome in my house.


[22-Apr-20 11:07 PM] Midknight#9798
which network is that abomination of proper representation from, I wonder?


[22-Apr-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
some abc local station


[22-Apr-20 11:09 PM] Midknight#9798
ah. low budget station running on free intern labor.


[22-Apr-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Boston apparently


[22-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, it's broadcast on a local station, but a lot of those stations' content is from the parent netork


[22-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And abc isn't low budget


[22-Apr-20 11:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
abc is disney


[22-Apr-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/2e42dbf0e5b52b144873417553a3c66b

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Administration offers plan to cover COVID care for uninsured
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to start paying hospitals and doctors who care for uninsured patients with COVID-19, but Democratic lawmakers and health...
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[22-Apr-20 11:21 PM] illumnious#7938
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[22-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Propaganda.


[22-Apr-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's conflating outdoors with nonessential and indoors with essential to trigger people's REEEE NAAAAATURE response.


[22-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the risk part it's completely fabricating the statement. Parks are closed because people gather there, not because they are risky while empty.


[22-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wear a fucking mask.


[22-Apr-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be nice if my mask would get here... it was supposed to be here on the 14th


[22-Apr-20 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are Trump intercepted it

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[22-Apr-20 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Waiting for mine too


[22-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Midknight#9798
The White House ran out of TP so they stole your mask to wipe the Royal Pooper


[22-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ten flushes, must need a lot


[22-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Midknight#9798
You can have it back when they're done though, if you're a good little peasant


[22-Apr-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
the people can have some masks, as a treat


[22-Apr-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but only one of the ear loops


[22-Apr-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anymore is spoiling the farm animals


[23-Apr-20 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bordiga has the sickest and slyest little burns.
> Three historical forms: industrialism in autonomous enterprises, industrialism in increasingly concentrated enterprises and then commonly managed enterprsies, socialism; all three were foreseen and described by Marx “from the very start”. Nothing has occurred which was unforeseen and which lies beyond the bounds of the analysis which outlined this once and for all. Damn those who talk about dogmas. There has yet to be a renegade who did not use this word. Mao Tse Tung compared it with “cow shit”. Well, bon apetit!


[23-Apr-20 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
- The Spirit of Horsepower (1953)
Amadeo Bordiga


[23-Apr-20 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
>  The question as to whether the machine was a blessing or a curse would at best remain a nice theme for literature.


[23-Apr-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tweets that aged like fine milk

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[23-Apr-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/Xdf2XEg sound source

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Las Vegas Offers It’s Citzens Up As Guinea Pigs
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[23-Apr-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/KhakiJorts/status/1252750713169510400

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This is a real ad 100% cannot make this up
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[23-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol


[23-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Down but this is his 404 page


[23-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That can't be real


[23-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're going to make Biden say memes aren't they


[23-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just needs to talk about CornPop more


[23-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(CornPop really did exist, it wasn't just rambling)


[23-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I credit this moment with killing Clinton's campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaiyjh1dGk

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BromanderInChief
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Pokèmon Go (to the polls)
#MakePokemonGoGreatAgain

Hillary Clinton's cringey-ass statement: https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/753687954829242368
Blackberry toss into garbage (I know it isn't a smartphone ok): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMMfEqPttM4
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[23-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it was "deplorables"


[23-Apr-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
joebiden.com/heartland


[23-Apr-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look for yourself


[23-Apr-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
racists really got that offended, huh


[23-Apr-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[23-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
if that biden ad is real, things are worse than we thought.


[23-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
that would mean he's entirely gone and absolutely cannot be reasoned with anymore.


[23-Apr-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or that he's in a coma with only his heart still functioning


[23-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Honahue#0656
the drugs they use to keep him cognate for a few hours to speak really take their toll


[23-Apr-20 02:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[23-Apr-20 02:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[23-Apr-20 02:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
These are some rumors about corona these days


[23-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
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[23-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
rekt


[23-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're really gonna need to translate that for us.


[23-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese characters are not easy to match to images.


[23-Apr-20 02:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>taking bath in 56 degree hot water can kill corona
>drinking under 8 aged boys' piss can cue corona
>doing sex can prevent from getting corona
>corona can spread by eye glances
>American deaths' corps polluted Pacific Ocean


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was *57* C necessary to kill it.


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in theory yes, but IIRC you don't want to bathe in 57 C water.


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also that'd only remove it from your surface.


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
And man, under *8*?


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd get a heat stroke


[23-Apr-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're really getting specific with their virgin boy urine stuff.


[23-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the piss drinking thing isn't new


[23-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, isn't it only under 10 for the egg boiling?


[23-Apr-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who is selling urine of 7 year old boys, trying to stave off competition that sells urine of 9 year old boys?

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[23-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, you afraid of corona? See, the 10yo boy piss everyone else has is useless, tell your friends to come to me for the pure 7yo piss"


[23-Apr-20 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile, I'm kinda wondering who the other 2 people were who showed up at the maryland protest


[23-Apr-20 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm hoping they were related to the guy


[23-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The son and the holy ghost, obviously.

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[23-Apr-20 02:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Must let the 7aged boy piss directly into my mouth to make sure its fresh


[23-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*corona can spread by eye glances*


[23-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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[23-Apr-20 02:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also, the guy who claims doing sex can prevent corona is arrested


[23-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
What he really meant was his dikk was the only cure.


[23-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, @Marukomuru, looking into someone's eyes is basically sex.


[23-Apr-20 02:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because he photoshoped all the things of "doing sex can prevent corona" as it's People's Daily claiming so, while People's Daily is the official media of CCP


[23-Apr-20 02:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Oh hey it's our Party said doing sex can prevent the virus, let's just obey the command!"


[23-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
He kinda deserves that lol


[23-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg

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Virgin boy eggs are a traditional dish of Dongyang, Zhejiang, China in which eggs are boiled in the urine of young boys who were presumably peasants, preferably under the age of ten. Named "tong zi dan" (Chinese: 童子蛋; pinyin: Tóngzǐdàn), the dish translates literally to "boy e...


[23-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Under 8 thing isn't surprising.


[23-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"There is no good explanation for why it must be boys' urine, specifically. It has simply been so for centuries."


[23-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Easier to collect.


[23-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Little girls will tend to squat, which leads to poop getting in the urine.


[23-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But what if this


[23-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.amazon.com/Wildlife-523-Coyote-Urine-4-Ounce/dp/B0000AVXJ8


[23-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I eat a coyote urine boiled egg, will deer just stay away from me forever?


[23-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deer already just stay away from people.


[23-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Deleted scene from Joker 2019


[23-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's Heath Ledger Joker


[23-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly TIL I learned "We live in a society" was never said by the Joker ever


[23-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was said by George Costanza


[23-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're implying they're different people.


[23-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
what? heath ledger's joker says "we live in a society"


[23-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/LHhbdXCzt_A?t=23

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[23-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"You wanna know how I got these scars? My father invented this holiday called Festivus...."


[23-Apr-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heath Ledger's Joker doesn't say "We Live in a Society" in the movie.


[23-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He does evoke the ideas of it, tho.


[23-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
“Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.”


[23-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine tho, Its, that after Seinfeld is over


[23-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
George busts out of jail, where he was put over the stupidest most unconstitutional law ever made


[23-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
slims down a little, ends up getting scars killing his dad at Festivus gone wrong


[23-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
becomes a supervillain.


[23-Apr-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Instead of the scene where he gets beaten up with the sign we just see flashbacks to the Frogger machine getting smashed


[23-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joker 2019 and Heath Ledger Joker are different people.


[23-Apr-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't hav the same motives or MO.


[23-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joker 2019 is "this guy got absolutely screwed by society and he's going to lash out at the rich fukks that individually wronged him while everyone else carries him around as their savior amidst the fires"


[23-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Honahue#0656
he tried to be the typoe of person society says you should be and it kept fucking him over so he became what he saw society actually rewarded


[23-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The message is pretty much that maybe society is really screwed up in how it treats people, yeah.


[23-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heath Ledger Joker exists in a society that pretty much is actually doing alright somehow despite Bruce Wayne being an unaccountable rich bastard etc. etc.


[23-Apr-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a scary villain but a lot of his message rings hollow.


[23-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
he believed that people become monsters when shit goes bad but turns out ther evidence says people tend to work together when shit gots bad,


[23-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
those weird Corona people are the one who'd push the button


[23-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm not the first to notice but it is hilairous that the people who watch/sorta doomsday prep are the people who go insane from not having a few moder conveniences


[23-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
driving around in new Fords with perfect paint and off road packages despite being used to pick up groceries


[23-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Honahue#0656
mad they can't berate a barber or their landscapers


[23-Apr-20 03:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
When you are the one that owns a landscape company and are mad they can't work even though they themselves don't do the work.


[23-Apr-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/494243-judge-rejects-attempt-by-three-california-churches-to-hold-services

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Judge rejects attempt by three California churches to hold services...
A Los Angeles judge denied a request by three southern California churches to continue holding in-person services during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[23-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/biden-accuser-tara-reade-allegedly-stole-from-a-non-profit-organization-e276cac68a2b

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Biden Accuser, Tara Reade, Allegedly Stole from a Non-Profit Organi...
Exclusive interview with the owner of a Watsonville, California-based non-profit horse rescue exposes allegations of theft and deceit on…
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[23-Apr-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden accuser allegedly stole from a charity called "Pregnant Mare Rescue"


[23-Apr-20 04:30 AM] Honahue#0656
non-profit exist soley to keep absurdly rich peoples income from getting taxed


[23-Apr-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People saying this is like Ford are disingenuous.


[23-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ford reported to her husband and therapist in 2012 about the alleged assaults.


[23-Apr-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reade's stories don't fit together.


[23-Apr-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
"pregnant mare rescue" sounds like a furry ERP scenario more so than a legit nonprofit

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[23-Apr-20 04:54 AM] illumnious#7938
stupid

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[23-Apr-20 05:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/15/834874400/in-deep-challenges-president-trump-s-notion-of-a-deep-state-conspiracy

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[23-Apr-20 05:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought Texas is a kind of puppies


[23-Apr-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/you-can-release-your-great-all-inside-me-daddy

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[23-Apr-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
> "America has this back-ass-wards Calvinist streak where calling for the expulsion and genocide of non-white races is just a difference of opinion," Boivin said. "But making a sex joke at a corporate mascot who paid money to advertise to you is cause for censure."


[23-Apr-20 05:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:nut:


[23-Apr-20 05:27 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Also >*Buzzfeed*


[23-Apr-20 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Calvinism really is the worst form of Christianity


[23-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
at least a few denominations are Universalist cause it makes 0 logical sense for a finite amount of sin no matter how bad to warrent an infinite amount of hell like Calvinist believe


[23-Apr-20 05:47 AM] jlun2#8758
how popular is calvin


[23-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
and now Christianity behave illogical but historically Christian theologians beleve god was rational andmade a rational universe which is why they did a lot of science


[23-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty popular in America


[23-Apr-20 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Calculus is at least in part because Newton wanted to understand why planets move the way they do so Easter could be predicted better, a lot of science has religious roots, it's sad how opposed they became


[23-Apr-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calvinism is like 90% of Protestant thought.


[23-Apr-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine saying that if you go to Heaven you were destined for it and if you go to Hell you were destined for it, and even if you join and stay on the Calvinists church.


[23-Apr-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean technically Lutherians aren't Calvinists but that's gotten blurred


[23-Apr-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Protestantism in the US has zero distinctions.


[23-Apr-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Evengelicals got this literalist fudy view of the bible which is new and awful


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
American Presbyterians don't even get mad if you work on Sunday


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Smh


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unlike the chad Scots


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Judism did it right and has 3000 year of literary analysis


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who will boycott the parking lot built for them if you worked on anything on it on a Sunday


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Honahue#0656
Christianity did that for a few hundred years at least


[23-Apr-20 05:54 AM] Honahue#0656
almost 1000


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Presbitariyans are Calvinist sadly


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protestantism in the US is predicated on following only your local church, not even the church down the street.


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
though Mr Rogers was Presbitariyans so I'm inclined to give them a pass


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's competitive economically.


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is horrific.


[23-Apr-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Judaism be like, "bruh, God don't want you appealing to his busy ass or attributing shit to him so stop being a dumb fuck and come heckle these Slavs"


[23-Apr-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churches are basically tax shelters that influence gov't policy and leech off people who need something to do on the weekends.


[23-Apr-20 05:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bruh, no one even cares about their Church I don't what you're talking about. If that was so we'd see religious violence through the roof. It's all about where to put the kids for half a day on the weekend so you can take a break and maybe coffee post-services


[23-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
We drop churches on a dime


[23-Apr-20 05:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
The way we do community


[23-Apr-20 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
well the way Judism read the last part of creation wasn't just that God rested it was that he sat back in his throne to see how thing play out, after creation things are in human hands, he gave us rules but it's up to people to do things right, Evengelicals think everything is God's will


[23-Apr-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue It's an interesting theological notion to say the least. Like you can kind of see how it plays out in stuff. Evangelicals try to pray away Hurricanes and COVID and Jews be like, "Yeah OK fuck off with that"


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then promptly go back to being angry at every other person


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
And going to Disco Pizzeria


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah, hurricanes happen how we deal with it is on us


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or something


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
the fall is why bad things happen but the OT is basically a bunch of stories of God saying do things this way and people then not doing it that way


[23-Apr-20 05:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
But the anger and Disco Pizza thing may be more like an Isreali thing. Because Isreali culture is really just America refined into deeper nonsense.


[23-Apr-20 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
"Yeah it's legit culture to listen to Maroon 5 in gray jogging clothes with gold chains and to eat at the same Pizzeria as the next one down the street and both are magically disco themed somehow. And since you compete in European song contests that also means you are Euro somehow."


[23-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
that's another difference though Judism believe it's 100% possible to live according to gods rules as laid out, Christianity says you can't it's impossible


[23-Apr-20 06:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
And "of course Netanyahu is not a Hungarian last name. It's obviously one of the Lost Tribes"


[23-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Islam acctually says it's possible too


[23-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Christianity is weid in being the Abrahamic religion that says Gods laws are impossible to follow


[23-Apr-20 06:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Glory be to Allah for such clear and concise rules.


[23-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pandemic/major-trump-donor-pocketed-millions-while-his-firm-received-more-stimulus-funds-than-any-public-company-report/

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Major Trump Donor Pocketed Millions While His Firm Received More St...
According to the report, a real estate investment trust (REIT) Ashford Hospitality Trust (AHT) and several of its subsidiaries received approximately $30 million in PPP funds through 42 separate loans--more than ten times the average amount.
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[23-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
fucking christ


[23-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
but my point is that there are serious intellectual traditions in all 3 of those religons but Evengelicalism gave up on it hardcore and now we're here with Trump


[23-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
like the only intellecual Christian I know of in America is David Bently Hart and he's Orthodox and a Christian Socialist


[23-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
this dude's company has received $30 million from the paycheck protection program, but instead of using it to actually pay his employees, 95% of them have been either fired or furloughed, and the top execs voted to give themselves dividends in the millions


[23-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Honahue#0656
what a non-surprise


[23-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, not bonuses, dividends


[23-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
> As part of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act, the PPP was primarily intended to help the nation’s small businesses (those with less than 500 employees) to keep employees on their payroll and prevent mass layoffs. But a carve-out in the CARES Act allowed hotel chains to apply for PPP loans as long as they don’t have more than 500 workers at any one franchise location.


[23-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Honahue#0656
when the farming starts again they'll just hire mexicans under the table again like they were doing


[23-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
> “Whether it’s mismanagement or malpractice, the Trump administration’s failure to allocate funds properly means thousands of small businesses won’t receive the funding necessary to support their employees,” Herrig said. “Meanwhile, a bunch of publicly traded companies worth hundreds of millions got a cash infusion and are sitting pretty.”


[23-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
malmanagement


[23-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
mispractice


[23-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
all of the above


[23-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
working as intended


[23-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Honahue#0656
the rich make money, fuck the workers


[23-Apr-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://wkfr.com/man-who-called-ohios-lockdown-b-s-has-died-due-to-covid-19/

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Man Who Called Ohio's Lockdown B.S. Has Died Due To Covid-19
Five weeks after he slammed the Ohio Governor on social media for closing bars and restaurants John W. McDaniel passed away.
https://townsquare.media/site/689/files/2020/04/GettyImages-1210468839.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89


[23-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
KARMA 19


[23-Apr-20 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue sadly it'll probably start tons of conspiracies that make ppl protest more


[23-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah well as I joked in a differnt server, electrons droping from an excitd orbital to a ground orbital are degenerate with other electrons in that orbital and emits a photon when it does and thats how 5G works and why it turns people gay


[23-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
obviously it was a false flag operation conducted by the 5G towers


[23-Apr-20 06:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[23-Apr-20 06:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Daily new cases still not going down


[23-Apr-20 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
how much do you think China is faking numbers? A lot of people in America think they are completely unreliable


[23-Apr-20 06:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least can't be more than the US even if added the hidden numbers


[23-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
I think that's reasonable too


[23-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
China did seem to take it really seriously fairly early and it wouldn't help the propaganda to do that if they wanted to then lie about how everything was fine


[23-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
there's a difference between purposefully hiding numbers and being so inept that you can't collect the proper numbers


[23-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Honahue#0656
if you shut down a large city its better to be honest or even inflate the numbers to justify it


[23-Apr-20 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's not how authoritarian governments view bad numbers when they're big


[23-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
the "number big mean life good" mentality that the current US government ascribes to is pretty authoritarian in nature


[23-Apr-20 06:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't say anything because I'm not in a infected city


[23-Apr-20 06:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All I see is our supermarket shut down for a week, local government encouraging us to wear face masks, and the price of pork doubled


[23-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah I'm sorry I made a pretty big assumption China has a lot of people and a lot of cities, I did just want what an actual Chinese person thought of the government news


[23-Apr-20 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
thinking about it now it would be hugely different depending on where you are


[23-Apr-20 06:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[23-Apr-20 06:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Unluckily I don't have any friend in Wuhan


[23-Apr-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
16 9/11s


[23-Apr-20 06:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And I did saw some Wuhan people's posts online. At the beginning, many of them are complaining, crying, shouting, asking for help


[23-Apr-20 06:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many severe patients can't get a bed, many health workers can't get enough PPE


[23-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Honahue#0656
not so different here


[23-Apr-20 06:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But these only continued for several weeks. Then as the condition became better, people just moved their focus onto other things, like an officer raped a girl, gov blocked another website, Animal Crossing, etc


[23-Apr-20 06:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And all kinds of memes about corona


[23-Apr-20 07:26 AM] jlun2#8758
> And all kinds of memes about corona
Government censors be like :glowing_eyes:


[23-Apr-20 09:28 AM] Opponent#3498
```Imagine saying that if you go to Heaven you were destined for it and if you go to Hell you were destined for it, and even if you join and stay on the Calvinists church.```


[23-Apr-20 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it has one upside though. If this is the case, then, quite literally, _who cares?_


[23-Apr-20 09:29 AM] Opponent#3498
Maim kill burn! MAIM KILL BURN!


[23-Apr-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not an economically viable way to build your religion. There's no upside to the message that would require an institution to manifest, so it can't easily grow.


[23-Apr-20 09:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, but see, it means if you keep your family in the religion, then it means they're destined for heaven too, so long as you grow a good family


[23-Apr-20 09:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(this is why really puritan religions like the quakers failed, 'cause they literally don't have kids)


[23-Apr-20 09:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
throw in a whole bunch of convenient messaging like forgiveness for true believers and the parable of the prodigal son, and bam, you get calvinism with all the benefits of "if you come to our church, then you really were destined all along"


[23-Apr-20 09:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[23-Apr-20 10:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A good PSA source for anti-fastfood parents.


[23-Apr-20 10:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, Mark Kelly is running for senate huh


[23-Apr-20 10:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have autographed photos from him and his brother...


[23-Apr-20 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
>90% percent of protestants are Calvinists


[23-Apr-20 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
?


[23-Apr-20 10:25 AM] ononim#8141
???


[23-Apr-20 10:26 AM] ononim#8141
¿¿¿¿¿


[23-Apr-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-coronavirus-bailouts-irish-uk-european-golf-courses-workers-2020-4

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The Trump Organization is seeking UK and Irish government bailouts ...
The Trump Organization is eligible for millions of dollars in aid from the UK and Irish governments, after laying off 2,000 employees in the US.
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[23-Apr-20 03:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it real that Dr. Bright is fired by Trump?


[23-Apr-20 03:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1253284909529128961?s=21

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lmao there is zero new reporting here, Fox just decided to re-up an eight-year-old Post story that makes Joe Biden look bad. Subtle! https://t.co/Q9VoXvtCof
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[23-Apr-20 03:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@AlchemistLiang He was moved to another role after he insisted there be more science put into the drugs Trump wanted people to use (the ones that ended up increasing fatality rate)


[23-Apr-20 03:36 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[23-Apr-20 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494224-cdc-director-tries-to-walk-back-remarks-on-coronavirus

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CDC director tries to walk back remarks on coronavirus
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield on Wednesday tried to temper remarks he made about the threat of a second wave of the novel coronavirus, saying the thrust of his comments was meant to urge Americ
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/redfiieldrobert2_042220getty.jpg


[23-Apr-20 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
a perfect photo go along with the title.


[23-Apr-20 05:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Flippty fuck https://apple.news/ArTPzp-WyRUi5932Ly7cgCQ

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As coronavirus upends 2020, Trump may have a hard time keeping Penn...
Few places have been hit harder by the coronavirus — from both the health and the economic standpoints — than Pennsylvania.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQXJUUHpwLVd5UlVpNTkzMkx5N2NnQ1EAMA


[23-Apr-20 05:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1251527655846866950/pu/vid/640x448/YJLJueP_3jG-cvOM.mp4

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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1251527655846866950/pu/vid/640x448/YJLJueP_3jG-cvOM.mp4


[23-Apr-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discourseblog.substack.com/p/how-not-to-do-labor-journalism-101

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How Not to Do Labor Journalism 101
There were a thousand ways to tell this story, and NPR chose the worst one.
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[23-Apr-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
is there a full version of that video? it's cut off


[23-Apr-20 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
I think I saw another clip of the same video where he was talking about something else too


[23-Apr-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, think it was on TV


[23-Apr-20 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
oh, he's a youtuber https://www.youtube.com/user/VicDiBitetto/videos

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Vic Dibitetto
Tired of the unfunny, no-talents on TV? Then click on this link to see thousands of the funniest videos you'll ever see! And watch my new Hearst Digital show...
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJzuW3kjNDiJ9mTuB3fPrFv9_Aptu3kJpKlWJQ=s900-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo


[23-Apr-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Alex__1789/status/1252939997101113344?s=19

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Brazil's Foreign Minister claims Slavoj Zizek has a plan to install communism during the Covid crisis: "If coronavirus wasn't enough, now we have to deal with the communavirus".

If only the Left really was as canny and powerful as what exists in the far right's fever dreams....
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[23-Apr-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Schniff


[23-Apr-20 06:53 PM] jlun2#8758
the left is too busy killing each other over twitter posts from years ago so no lol


[23-Apr-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-stimulus-bill-freelancers-unemployment-benefits-paycheck-loans-sick-leave-2020-4

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The coronavirus stimulus bill gave self-employed workers access to ...
Freelancers and contractors can get unemployment insurance, paid sick leave, and paycheck protection loans thanks to the coronavirus stimulus bill.
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[23-Apr-20 07:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/about-150-years-of-oil-price-history-in-one-chart-illustrates-crudes-spectacular-plunge-below-0-a-barrel-2020-04-22

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About 150 years of oil-price history in one chart illustrating crud...
The formerly unthinkable drop in oil prices below $0 a barrel on Monday is still reverberating through financial markets, as supply overwhelms demand...
https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-GY309_blood__ZG_20181109152158.jpg


[23-Apr-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2020/04/22/Photos/NS/MW-IE969_db_oil_20200422112802_NS.jpg

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https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2020/04/22/Photos/NS/MW-IE969_db_oil_20200422112802_NS.jpg


[23-Apr-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[23-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494325-devos-drops-in-history-geography-scores-stark-and-inexcusable

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DeVos: Drops in history, geography scores 'stark and inexcusable'
Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Thursday expressed her displeasure with the U.S. history and geography test scores released this week as part of a report from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES).
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[23-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well gee, maybe if your entire mission statement wasnt to fuck over public school funding...


[23-Apr-20 08:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Let me guess. Kids now think the world wars was a game plot from the 2000s


[23-Apr-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably not


[23-Apr-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/494298-supreme-court-hands-environmentalists-a-win-in-water-pollution-case

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Supreme Court hands environmentalists a win in water pollution case
The Supreme Court on Thursday sided with environmentalists by giving a broad reading to the types of water-borne pollution covered by the Clean Water Act.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scotus_supremecourt_012219gn2.jpg


[23-Apr-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
"hey look guys, we made a liberal ruling, that means we're totally not a bunch of conservative goons right?" *quietly allows the presidency to convert to monarchy


[23-Apr-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/494107-trump-says-national-parks-to-start-reopening-as-states-relax

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Trump says national parks to start reopening as states relax corona...
President Trump said Wednesday that his administration would begin to reopen national parks as states relax restrictions meant to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpearthday_042220getty.jpg


[23-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sen-elizabeth-warren-s-oldest-brother-dies-coronavirus-n1190671

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren's oldest brother dies from coronavirus
"What made him extra special was his smile," Warren tweeted, adding, "I'll miss you dearly my brother."
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_17/3320691/200423-don-reed-elizabeth-warren-al-1122_301a3b5e3bc5f0548d343a38028c7aa6.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[23-Apr-20 09:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oof


[23-Apr-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Does make me wonder, though, who the first elected official in washington to die from this is going to be


[23-Apr-20 10:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Which state is going to have another 30 days of lockdown again?


[23-Apr-20 10:33 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/494107-trump-says-national-parks-to-start-reopening-as-states-relax
@prism stryder(intexda)  goodfuckingluck

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Trump says national parks to start reopening as states relax corona...
President Trump said Wednesday that his administration would begin to reopen national parks as states relax restrictions meant to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpearthday_042220getty.jpg


[23-Apr-20 10:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-advisor-stephen-moore-space-outfits-coronavirus-reopen-economy-2020-4

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A Trump economic advisor jokingly suggested putting people in 'spac...
"Why don't we just put everybody in a space outfit or something like that?" he said jokingly in a New York Times Q&A.
https://i.insider.com/5c9528f27563b0198b44ae25?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Apr-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Ah shit, here we go again https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1253426762928668678?s=21

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I will be having a White House Press Conference today at 5:45 P.M. Thank you!
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[23-Apr-20 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy, for the leader of the greatest country in the world, Trump sure does have a lot of time to stand in front of cameras and listen to OAN praise him in the form of a question


[23-Apr-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there has been a conference every day this week


[23-Apr-20 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he cant hold massive rallies so he;s compensating by having oann suck his dick in breifings


[23-Apr-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-blue-state-bailout-coronavirus-cash-reserves-levels-recession-aid-2020-4

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McConnell says giving aid to states to help ease the pain from the ...
States had sizable rainy day funds and much larger cash reserves than during the Great Recession over a decade ago.
https://i.insider.com/5ea1eba138bf23163e208283?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Apr-20 11:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Listen, #5 most dependent Depends-wearer,


[23-Apr-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know man, maybe tell me why we didn't hav a stokkpile of "space outfits" ready for a disaster like this.


[24-Apr-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump just suggested killing the virus by putting UV lights in people and injecting them with disinfectants

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[24-Apr-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
he should demonstrate the process in himself, on live feed.


[24-Apr-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
to prove it's entirely harmless, of course.


[24-Apr-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
on live tv?


[24-Apr-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's what I meant.


[24-Apr-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was aksing if he said this on live tv


[24-Apr-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess i should have used a ping


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He did


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:implying:


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, of course he did.


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can we pay the secret service to shoot him in the face?


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that legal?


[24-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't sound legal


[24-Apr-20 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not, but is legal at this point anyway?


[24-Apr-20 12:24 AM] jlun2#8758
wait. UV lights INSIDE people?


[24-Apr-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[24-Apr-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He suggested blasting UV light through people


[24-Apr-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then "or maybe put UV lights inside people"

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[24-Apr-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After a science guy showed UV light accelerates the virus' death on surfaces


[24-Apr-20 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, I'd like a string of UV lights about as long as the average digestive tract of a person. Why? Oh, just testing a theory.


[24-Apr-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The he suggested injecting people with disinfectants


[24-Apr-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt surprise me to learn that he doesnt knwo what a UV light looks like


[24-Apr-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the fact that they are solid devices and not a fucking liquid


[24-Apr-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
so does his base want to try that first


[24-Apr-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i look forward to the mass reports of idiots trying this becAUSE dear leader suggested it


[24-Apr-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/uk-launches-unprecedented-attack-on-trans-rights-will-ban-transition-before-18/

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UK launches unprecedented attack on trans rights, will ban transiti...
Statement appears to threaten trans bathroom access.
https://cdn.gaystarnews.com/uploads/2020/04/800px-Official_portrait_of_Elizabeth_Truss_crop_2.jpg


[24-Apr-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
May the tories hang.


[24-Apr-20 12:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[24-Apr-20 12:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Daily new cases over 30k again


[24-Apr-20 12:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And total deaths reached 50k


[24-Apr-20 12:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's on it again


[24-Apr-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now asking Birx if she's ever heard of someone treated through that


[24-Apr-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And she's like "Uh, no, I've not heard about that no"


[24-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After being asked if maybe as President on the podium he's worried about what his suggestions could lead people to do, he naturally responds by attacking the reporter and going "hey, it's just a suggestion"


[24-Apr-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
> The novel coronavirus appears to be causing sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not otherwise terribly ill, doctors reported Wednesday.


[24-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It causes blood clots.


[24-Apr-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of blood clots.


[24-Apr-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Well then, that's why


[24-Apr-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, like a third of patients get severe clotting.


[24-Apr-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admin-wants-to-use-postal-service-loan-as-leverage-report-2020-4

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The Trump administration is reportedly considering an emergency loa...
Top administration officials want to require the Postal Service to charge higher rates on its package delivery services, the Washington Post reported.
https://i.insider.com/5ea2132bf242ab2087422f75?width=1200&format=jpeg


[24-Apr-20 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait to see an increase in skin cancer, blindness, and severe burns in MAGA hat country


[24-Apr-20 12:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I feel the total deaths will probably be over a hundred thousand


[24-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>COVID also causes clots


[24-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why didn't they just make this thing to just kill people immediately


[24-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], a nurse has reported watching blood clot in realtime when she attempted to insert an IV


[24-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
said it took 3 tries to get the IV in without clotting


[24-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Fucking hell


[24-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/health/blood-clots-coronavirus/index.html

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Doctors try to untangle why they're seeing 'unprecedented' blood cl...
"The number of clotting problems I'm seeing in the ICU, all related to Covid-19, is unprecedented," one New York doctor said in an email to CNN. "Blood clotting problems appear to be widespread in severe Covid."
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200408013302-us-coronavirus-wednesday-0407-super-tease.jpg


[24-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
> Dr. Kathryn Hibbert's Covid-19 patient in the intensive care unit was not doing well. As his blood pressure plummeted, she tried to insert an intravenous line into an artery in his wrist.
> 
> A blood clot clogged the tubing.
> 
> Frustrated, Hibbert tried again with a new needle. A blood clot clogged up that line as well.
> 
> It took three tries to insert the IV.
> 
> "You just watch it clot right in front of you," said Hibbert, director of the medical intensive care unit at Massachusetts General Hospital. "It's rare to have that happen once, and extremely rare to have that happen twice."


[24-Apr-20 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow if you find a video of that, pls post, would love to see it since curious


[24-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494421-trump-says-he-disagrees-with-fauci-on-testing-capabilities

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Trump says he disagrees with Fauci on testing capabilities
President Trump said Thursday he disagreed with Anthony Fauci’s statement that the U.S. does not yet have the testing capacity that it needs to effectively contain the spread of the novel coronavirus as stay-at-home restrictions are relaxed.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/newsletter-fauci_040220getty.jpg


[24-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder how long it takes for fauci to get "re-assigned"


[24-Apr-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or as i like to call it "pre-fired"


[24-Apr-20 01:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just want a fistfight to break out in the press corps or something


[24-Apr-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me too


[24-Apr-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, at what point does this all break down


[24-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just need a letter opener, right under the ribs


[24-Apr-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just get right up in the solar plexus


[24-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
.p right up the butt, animated, twilight sparkle, edited screencap


[24-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[24-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
.p right up the butt, animated, twilight sparkle, edited screencap


[24-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[24-Apr-20 01:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[24-Apr-20 01:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
SACRIFICE TO THE LINE!


[24-Apr-20 01:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"Sacrifice The Weak!"
<"But... *You're* weak..."
>":shrugpony:"


[24-Apr-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494415-georgia-democrat-retracts-resignation-i-will-not-allow-the-democrats-to

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Georgia Democrat retracts resignation: 'I will not allow the Democr...
The Georgia Democrat who said he would step down after endorsing President Trump for reelection retracted his resignation Thursday.
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[24-Apr-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/161qLP6.mp4 the new trump campaign theme

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[24-Apr-20 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
there was some effort/10


[24-Apr-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, yeah, it is cringe, but a microphone and some pitch correction go a long way these days


[24-Apr-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/MyR8WFH.mp4 the uv light quote

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[24-Apr-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it would be very interesting to check that


[24-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont worry, his followers will do it for us


[24-Apr-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump should stop talking about types of lights. His lights are not even on.


[24-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump should jsut stop talking in general but that;s not going to happen


[24-Apr-20 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump should just stop.


[24-Apr-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
moving


[24-Apr-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
permanently


[24-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
RE: The guy resigning


[24-Apr-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty sure there's something in the membership rules of both parties that says you can't just support the other party's candidates or you're out


[24-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If not, there should be.


[24-Apr-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That seems dangerously close to fully enforcing party-line voting


[24-Apr-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
there are sore loser laws


[24-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just think of it like


[24-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can have the national party throw all their weight into helping to elect you


[24-Apr-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then think you can not fall in line at least with some basic positions?


[24-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't vote party line btw, at the local level when you can talk to them all the time it doesn't really matter


[24-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got them to stop enforcing their "No political signs in yards" rule when I visited my parent's house and heard about it


[24-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(The city's)


[24-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their rationale?


[24-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It caused too much trouble in 2016"


[24-Apr-20 03:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't understand... Is "Sacrifice the Weak" a part of American Value?


[24-Apr-20 03:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How can people support this?


[24-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Midknight#9798
I don't. Republicans say "fuck the weak, i am stronk, i don't need them" a whole lot though


[24-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking parties shouldn't exist in anywhere near their current form.


[24-Apr-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
> I don't understand... Is "Sacrifice the Weak" a part of American Value?
@AlchemistLiang 

A large part of the political body, maybe not a majority but enough have a strong belief in rugged individualism. But for the most part these people are easily identified as being the small buisiness tyrant.


[24-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Sure, but taking advantage of national DNC/RNC money and then not falling in line at least a little is dumb


[24-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The money should be illegal.


[24-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the not falling in line.


[24-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He got paid to draw a furry commission and instead drew a picture about how furries are bad.


[24-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, so a national party shouldn't be able to support candidates?


[24-Apr-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[24-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[24-Apr-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yesterday new cases 29461, today (not over yet) already 34243


[24-Apr-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The parties themselves are the filter that keeps candidates like Bernie out.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking hav you like, ever looked at UK election law?


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's as strict as their advertising law.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They blur coca cola cups on TV, you know.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
ALL OF THEM.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Advertising on TV is basically just not allowed in the programme itself.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do it, you get fired. On the spot.


[24-Apr-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Happens in the US too because a lot of the time they don't want to deal with it


[24-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
No like


[24-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
you don't get it


[24-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The product placement you see in American movies


[24-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
is stuff that gets you fired in the UK in TV.


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
At most you can hav your cast of characters always go to a particular restaurant.


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you can't show the logos prominently.


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of when Louis Vuitton tried to sue the people who made The Hangover


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if something *is* sponsored, you hav to tell the audience upfront, before the programme starts.


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well that makes sense alone


[24-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's not sponsored, advertising is not allowed to alter the writing **in any way**.


[24-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[24-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just at the end of the video start talking about Raid Shadow Legends


[24-Apr-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who set that up with you will get thrown out of the industry if you're in the UK.


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, their election law limits the money you can spend on campaign.


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
SEVERELY.


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's only allowed to be spent in a narrow window.


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the opposite of Citizens United


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Midknight#9798
preettty much


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Citizens United is unthinkable in the UK.


[24-Apr-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also opinion needed


[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at this and tell me if you think it is considered parody


[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no advertizing in children's programmes.


[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Period.


[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the most they will tolerate is stuff like MLP.


[24-Apr-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where it's trying to get you to buy its merch.


[24-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly think they would hate that


[24-Apr-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the ponies suddenly went to McDonald's in EqG, that ep wouldn't be allowed in the UK.


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see enuff info to say anything about parody status on that btw.


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Midknight#9798
When I think back to how often kid me saw some stupid piece of shit advertised during breaks in my cartoons and wanted it, seems like a good idea tbh


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(It's not, Seuss' estate won)


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Parody actually has to parody the thing you're mocking


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like a lame style ripoff.


[24-Apr-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not just use it to mock a thing


[24-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could make and sell an MLP parody that was mocking about how bad the franchise is


[24-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But not use MLP to like, mock a celebrity and sell it


[24-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Midknight#9798
stuff like this is very persuasive to a 5 year old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpdPgpRxJJA

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[24-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do recall, most TV in the UK is BBC, so not funded by ads.


[24-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when the cartoons are on, there's not gonna be any shit about what toys to buy.


[24-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm amazed that the "wait, why are we paying TV licenses when no one else does?" line of thought is only like the most far right position in the UK.


[24-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, UKIP and Brexit Party position


[24-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a far left position too actually


[24-Apr-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly among the Scottish


[24-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, the BBC over the last decade has been aggressively anti Scottish independence.


[24-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much moreso than it tries to paint whoever's the current PM in a positive light.


[24-Apr-20 03:40 AM] Midknight#9798
well, that would cut into their license revenue


[24-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You cannot be pro-Brexit and anti-Scottish independence


[24-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why the anti position is so pushed, to try to hide that inconsistency


[24-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be, if your position is English dominance instead of any of the BS it masquerades as.


[24-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If that's your position, why have other filthy non-English in your country?


[24-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[24-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the idea isn't to hav a pure country


[24-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's to hav England control all others.


[24-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Scotland and Ireland being relatively similar areas you can go visit and enjoy how they bow down


[24-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
then eventually, the same for all of Europe.


[24-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just colonialism, really.


[24-Apr-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
So and so is mostly white, so mostly okay, so they can be middle class.


[24-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Brexit was always about English nationalism, not the ideal of individual state rights or whatever


[24-Apr-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let me get a tikka masala then turn on the BBC and get mad that they have a documentary with a brown person in Roman Britain


[24-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Brexiteers would be delighted with the EU if it was called the English Union and they had a permanent parliament majority


[24-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just looked up tikka masala nachos to see if they existed, you know as the ultimate "immigrants make drunk white people a watered down version of their cuisine" dish


[24-Apr-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It does.


[24-Apr-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God help us all.


[24-Apr-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's Mountain Dew flavoured nachos, there is no limit


[24-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mountain Dew ramen when?


[24-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Watched a documentary about pizza, they went to Brooklyn and asked a stereotypical Italian-American what the limit for toppings on pizza is


[24-Apr-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was like "Look, you could put ramen on a pizza but it's not really pizza then"


[24-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Immediate jump cut to sushi pizza in Japan


[24-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A pizza is just an open sandwich


[24-Apr-20 03:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Curry pizza in Sweden?


[24-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Midknight#9798
it's pizza sushi: tiny raw pizzas on top of rice balls


[24-Apr-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A calzone is both pizza and sandwich


[24-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just hungry for a jelly doughnut


[24-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing like a good jelly doughnut!


[24-Apr-20 03:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A pizza topped with mini pizzas. 🍕 :nut:


[24-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
St. Louis and Chicago style pizzas are the only pizzas I really don't consider pizza


[24-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good yes, pizza no


[24-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Midknight#9798
so that's what that little ceasars mascot is always going off about


[24-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The former is crackers and cheese and the latter is a casserole


[24-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chicago pizza is the only thing I'd call a pizza *pie*


[24-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
A giant calzone with miniature pizzas inside, @PwnyPony


[24-Apr-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Each mini pizza has a different topping completely covering its top.


[24-Apr-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I swear I have had that before. :ponythinking:


[24-Apr-20 03:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
the mini pizzas on a pizza with different toppings. not a calzone though. must have been a pizza hut or something like it.


[24-Apr-20 04:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/laura-ingraham-worries-america-may-no-longer-exist-if-people-keep-listening-to-dr-fauci-about-coronavirus/

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Laura Ingraham worries America may no longer exist if people keep l...
On Fox News Thursday, Laura Ingraham suggested that America as we know it will cease to exist if people continue following the advice of infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci. “If we wait for Dr. Fauci’s seal of approval to reopen America, we may not have an America to r...
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[24-Apr-20 04:57 AM] illumnious#7938
>FOX News


[24-Apr-20 05:02 AM] Midknight#9798
ok laura, here, breathe through this covid-19-spit-soaked cloth. you can test for us if this is really something we should be worried about okie? ^_^


[24-Apr-20 05:03 AM] Midknight#9798
No? Don't want to when it's your life at risk suddenly? Gosh why am I not surprised? 😄


[24-Apr-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she should go outside and hug a protestor then, i;m sure it will all be fine


[24-Apr-20 05:15 AM] Midknight#9798
what? oh, no, don't mind my *~cough~* coughing *~cough~* I'm just having a reaction to your perfume. Eau De Bullshite sets me off


[24-Apr-20 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494447-trump-mulls-tying-postal-service-changes-to-emergency-coronavirus

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Trump mulls tying USPS changes to emergency coronavirus loan: report
The Trump administration is considering tying changes to the U.S. Postal Service to the emergency coronavirus loan from Congress, according to the Washington Post.
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[24-Apr-20 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494445-judge-says-california-law-requiring-background-checks-to-purchase-ammo

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Judge says California law requiring background checks to purchase a...
A federal judge in California ruled that a law requiring background checks to purchase ammunition violates the Second Amendment.
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[24-Apr-20 05:19 AM] jlun2#8758
> A federal judge in California ruled that a law requiring background checks to purchase ammunition violates the Second Amendment.
gun nuts win again


[24-Apr-20 05:19 AM] jlun2#8758
until nonwhites try to do the same i guess


[24-Apr-20 05:20 AM] Midknight#9798
don't see a problem


[24-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Midknight#9798
the way that was implemented was as bad as telling someone they needed to reregister to vote for each election, or they'd have to visit the doctor and get a prescription every day for each pill they wanted to take.


[24-Apr-20 05:23 AM] Midknight#9798
even otc stuff 😛


[24-Apr-20 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494441-new-mexico-governor-extends-stay-at-home-order-were-not-ready-to-ease-up

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New Mexico governor extends stay-at-home order: 'We're not ready to...
New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) extended the state’s stay-at-home order Wednesday to last until “at least” May 15.
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[24-Apr-20 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it really is amazing how partisan that opinion is turning out to be


[24-Apr-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/494406-mcconnell-sparks-bipartisan-backlash-with-state-bankruptcy-remarks

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McConnell sparks bipartisan backlash with state bankruptcy remarks
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is facing blowback from across the political spectrum after he suggested states should be able to declare bankruptcy as they face severe budget holes sparked by the coronavirus outbreak.&nb
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[24-Apr-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>nobody liked that


[24-Apr-20 05:32 AM] Midknight#9798
Depose Mitch!


[24-Apr-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as for the ammo sales thing, it's nowhere near as bad as that...I mean, you don't need an individual prescription for each and every pill, but you do need a doctor to okay a new refill bottle, and the same held here. Besides, the problem with the proposition as I understand it was that the proposition shoehorned in a mag restriction as well, and that the system was implemented incompetently. I expect the state to appeal and quite probably win because the law was ruled unconstitutional. Having an incompetent program isn't unconstitutional, and neither are background checks - heck, it's not even *illegal* for the program to be incompetent


[24-Apr-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though in fairness to the plaintiff, yes, the system was broken and ineffective and needs a do-over


[24-Apr-20 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I expect that the ruling that it was unconstitutional was an attempt to make sure california can never again have gun restrictions and boy that sounds an awful lot like exactly what the NRA wants


[24-Apr-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I doubt there are more than a handful of people, if any, on this server who remember a time when the NRA was about gun safety education and responsible ownership and not the SHALL NOTs they've got now


[24-Apr-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony ok boomer


[24-Apr-20 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, we could have a more constructive debate


[24-Apr-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what are your thoughts on skub?


[24-Apr-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[24-Apr-20 05:50 AM] Macarou#9574
https://harvardmagazine.com/2020/05/right-now-risks-homeschooling  https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/harvard-professor-wants-to-ban-authoritarian-homeschooling/  This was an, odd little thing I found.

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The Risks of Homeschooling
Elizabeth Bartholet highlights risks when parents have 24/7 authoritarian control over their children.
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Harvard professor wants to ban homeschooling because it’s ‘authorit...
“The issue is, do we think that parents should have 24/7, essentially authoritarian control over their children from ages zero to 18? I think that’s dangerous,” Elizabeth Bartholet said.
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[24-Apr-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you had all the right information and somehow drew the wrong conclusion


[24-Apr-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, rather, the conclusion's okay but based on complete nonsense

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[24-Apr-20 05:52 AM] Macarou#9574
I'm just now learning about this.


[24-Apr-20 06:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[24-Apr-20 06:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Xi is visiting the park I used to spend my weekends in when at college!


[24-Apr-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Don't eat or inject yourself with disinfectant, warns FDA commissioner

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[24-Apr-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Within a decade "drink bleach" when from a semi-ironic statement made to fuck with people online to genuine medical advice given by the President of the United States

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[24-Apr-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We truly live in a society.


[24-Apr-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be illegal for politicians to use official broadcasts to recommend treatments without proper approval.


[24-Apr-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Finally, you get close to my views about the speech rights of elected officials.


[24-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and who would be the authority on what a politician should or should not say?


[24-Apr-20 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, we do have oversight committees for various parts of our government


[24-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, maybe the massive agencies we hav who are currently just going "don't do exactly what the president just said"


[24-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who are unable to like, shut him the hell up in the first place on it.


[24-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure internal ethics rules actually would nail a Senator that did this, btw.


[24-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president however has no accountability.


[24-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
No accountability is bad.


[24-Apr-20 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is a pretty american thing to even say, but you can't sue the president for negligence


[24-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some SCOTUS justices would say you can, and that therefore certain laws don't apply to him.


[24-Apr-20 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
any accountability he has to face for that is summed up in the oath of office, which is mostly up to Congress to oversee...and the current senate majority has demonstrated that they don't believe the president should be impeached. Or, for that matter, that any reason given for any prior impeachment should count


[24-Apr-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then in their next ruling, they'd say you can't, actually.


[24-Apr-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, the thing that floored me about Trump's impeachment is that his defense team argued a position that's so outside the realm of precedent that it reverses *all* of it


[24-Apr-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they concluded that you can't impeach a president basically ever


[24-Apr-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The constitution needs some damn amendments.


[24-Apr-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe we actually do need a president in a DC jail to realize how fragile things are.


[24-Apr-20 11:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ousted-us-health-official-to-file-whistleblower-complaint-alleging-retaliation-2020-4

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A top US vaccine scientist plans to file a whistleblower complaint,...
Bright cited the reason behind his ouster was because he refused to tout anti-malaria drugs as treatment for the coronavirus.
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[24-Apr-20 11:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/duterte-threatens-martial-law-after-attacks-on-coronavirus-aid-2020-4

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Duterte threatens to declare martial law, citing reported attacks o...
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has taken an aggressive approach to curb the coronavirus spread and has threatened to shoot troublemakers dead.
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[24-Apr-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```hav you like, ever looked at UK election law?```


[24-Apr-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
they still got Trump lite though, so clearly the nuances of the law don't mean that much in the end :D


[24-Apr-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I know it's not the same thing, but it's the outcome that matters.


[24-Apr-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
```It should be illegal for politicians to use official broadcasts to recommend treatments without proper approval.```


[24-Apr-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
too specific. But broaden that, and, yeah. Would put at least a little damper on the mood.


[24-Apr-20 01:23 PM] Opponent#3498
any amount of subtlety would kill Trump so that'd work fine


[24-Apr-20 01:25 PM] Opponent#3498
```Maybe we actually do need a president in a DC jail to realize how fragile things are.```


[24-Apr-20 01:26 PM] Opponent#3498
he'd panic and have a heart attack before even reaching it. Helpful, but I'm not sure those who have to care about him would agree.


[24-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
> The country has also been using water cannons to disinfect streets and has left open coffins on the streets to deter people from going outside.


[24-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
now Phillipines know how to have fun. Low-key civil war and open coffins in the street in the middle of pandemic.


[24-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
sounds _amazing_.


[24-Apr-20 01:44 PM] ononim#8141
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[24-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y&feature=youtu.be

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Trump Suggests Injecting Disinfectant Into The Body To Treat Corona...
President Trump responded to a presentation by Bill Bryan from the Department of Homeland security on how to fight COVID-19 by suggesting that injecting the body with disinfectant could serve as treatment. In Bryan’s presentation, he explained isopropyl alcohol can kill the vi...
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[24-Apr-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mms-fans-celebrate-trump-claim-disinfectant-might-cure-coronavirus-2020-4

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A fringe movement that claims bleach is a miracle cure is jubilant ...
Campaigners fear Trump's remarks will boost a fringe medical movement claiming that toxic bleach cures illnesses.
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[24-Apr-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, not these guys

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[24-Apr-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i forgot about the industrial bleach miracle cure cult

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[24-Apr-20 02:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you fucking dumb?


[24-Apr-20 02:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh boy...


[24-Apr-20 02:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you fucking dumb you asshants


[24-Apr-20 02:52 PM] illumnious#7938
This is fuckery


[24-Apr-20 02:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
On a good side: less idiots naturally in end run


[24-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"but but but the us is a free people so we ofcourse get more infections then the rest of the world"


[24-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
> Eating tide pods is for kids. Legends inject themselves with disinfectant.


[24-Apr-20 03:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
actual responce from trumpests I debated when I borught up how shit this presdent is at this crises


[24-Apr-20 03:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Of course is  a massive delfecton beacuse they can't possbly take cristism of there man


[24-Apr-20 03:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
orange man good xd


[24-Apr-20 03:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
makes me wonder how are they going to defend this stupity?


[24-Apr-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
inject bleach to prove it works, of course.


[24-Apr-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the only logical answer.


[24-Apr-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with the cult of industrial bleach is they dont inject it into themselves, they sell it to desperate parents as a miracle cure and thne tell them to make their children drink it


[24-Apr-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this goes double with parents desperate to cure autism and the like...


[24-Apr-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and trump basically just gave them free endorsement


[24-Apr-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:zeeb:


[24-Apr-20 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dettol-urge-dont-inject-disinfectant-tokill-coronavirus-trump-idea-2020-4

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A leading disinfectant company urged people not to inject themselve...
President Donald Trump mused out loud that because disinfectant kills the coronavirus on external surfaces, it might work inside the human body.
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[24-Apr-20 03:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Are they going to ask the question in the shops?


[24-Apr-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[24-Apr-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/494452-biden-predicts-trump-will-try-to-delay-november-election

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Biden predicts Trump will try to delay November election
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday at an online fundraiser predicted that President Trump would try and push back November's general election because the president thinks that is the "only way he can possibly win."
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[24-Apr-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Apr-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, there's a dude in another discord literally saying that trump is justified in advocating for bathing oneself in UV light and  consuming disinfectants to fight the virus, and the discord owner says he won't interfere with his insane arguments because the retard is one of the few active members of the politics channel

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[24-Apr-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who-pompeo/pompeo-warns-u-s-may-never-restore-who-funding-idUSKCN2252GR?il=0

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Pompeo says U.S. may never restore WHO funds after cutoff over pand...
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the COVID-19 pandemic shows the need to overhaul the World Health Organization, warning that Washington may never restore WHO funding and could even work to set up an alternative to the U.N. body instead.
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[24-Apr-20 04:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/federal-reserve-monetary-policy-interest-rates-near-zero-2023-survey-2020-4-1029127099

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The Fed will keep interest rates near zero for at least 3 more year...
The Federal Reserve will leave its benchmark interest rate at financial crisis-era lows - near zero - until at least 2023, more than half of eco...
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[24-Apr-20 05:36 PM] jlun2#8758
Do high interest rates even exist anymore in developed countries or is that some mythical boomer thing


[24-Apr-20 05:37 PM] jlun2#8758
> warning that Washington may never restore WHO funding and could even work to set up an alternative to the U.N. body instead.
so, who's going to join WHO2?


[24-Apr-20 05:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They exist for rich people


[24-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For us poors, we're meant to spend all our money the instant we get it, then are criticized, ridiculed, and punished for not saving enough


[24-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The more money you have, the easier it is to make money


[24-Apr-20 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And to save money


[24-Apr-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to predict that trump will try and nuke at least one state for defying him but now i;m scared to make predictions


[24-Apr-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/23/democrats-plan-censure-lawmaker-whitsett-credited-trump-covid-19-recovery/3010947001/

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Democrats plan to censure lawmaker who credited Trump for COVID-19 ...
Detroit Democrats plan to vote Saturday to censure and bar any future endorsements of Democratic Rep. Whitsett who met with Trump about COVID-19 drug
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[24-Apr-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

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Trump owes tens of millions to the Bank of China — and the loan is ...
The president's financial dealings with the state-owned bank complicate his attacks on Biden.
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[24-Apr-20 06:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> For us poors, we're meant to spend all our money the instant we get it, then are criticized, ridiculed, and punished for not saving enough
ikr omg :sad:


[24-Apr-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-watching-7-hours-of-tv-and-getting-to-the-oval-office-at-noon-report-2020-4

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Trump reportedly watches up to 7 hours of cable news every morning ...
Aides say he's cooped up — beginning and ending his days watching TV — only occasionally having dinner with Melania and Barron, who just turned 14.
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[24-Apr-20 06:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably only oann and fox


[24-Apr-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/HTTP_Lovecraft/status/1253122907104055296

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Just got this is in the mail. This is fucked. 

$1,210.38 actual check that you have to pay back with $565 of bullshit tacked on top if you cash it.
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[24-Apr-20 06:40 PM] jlun2#8758
I spent 7 hours killing my laptop on infinite scroll instead and that felt more meaningful to my life than 7 hours cable


[24-Apr-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Today on "things that should be completely illegal"


[24-Apr-20 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Supposedly Trump does watch CNN and MSNBC a lot so he can be angry about it


[24-Apr-20 06:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie let me guess. almost no one notices the 46% charge usually right, and just go "hey 1200!"


[24-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's mainly to catch boomers.


[24-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note the amount.


[24-Apr-20 06:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a bit more than the stimulus money.


[24-Apr-20 06:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is, grandma will think this is her chekk from Trump, go cash it, and then be riddled with debt.


[24-Apr-20 06:43 PM] jlun2#8758
ah


[24-Apr-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how is that not literally illegal...?


[24-Apr-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a real cheque


[24-Apr-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That signals you agree to the loan


[24-Apr-20 06:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Holy shit. 40%.


[24-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're banking (heh) on people seeing all that text and just zoning on the big pretty cheque


[24-Apr-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And a lot of people will take the bait and not realize until their 3rd repayment is due


[24-Apr-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
*first repayment


[24-Apr-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this thing's late fees kick in immediately


[24-Apr-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, but I don't the people that fall for this are the same people that read through their bills until they see red


[24-Apr-20 07:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Bills are junk mail until they're marked urgent"


[24-Apr-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trump is now saying "Ha, guys the disinfectant statement was a joke. Come on guys. I wasnt serious"


[24-Apr-20 07:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
GAIZ I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED. - President of the United States.


[24-Apr-20 07:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/24/coronavirus-citing-a-primary-outcome-of-death-researchers-cut-chloroquine-study-short-over-safety-concerns.html

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Citing a 'primary outcome' of death, researchers cut chloroquine co...
Scientists say the findings should "serve to curb the exuberant use" of the drug, which has been touted by President Trump as a potential "game changer" in the fight against the coronavirus.
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[24-Apr-20 07:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that was just a joke too right, Trump


[24-Apr-20 07:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be another report hasn't heard of before


[24-Apr-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-block-proposed-increase-food-assistance-coronavirus-aid-package-1499920

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Republicans block proposed increase in food assistance in coronavir...
Democrats want a 15 percent increase in funding to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), but Republicans say Trump is opposed to their proposals.
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[24-Apr-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, he'll just say those studies weren't in depth enough and keep plugging it while calling those scientists nasty bullies


[24-Apr-20 07:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"Listen, a lot of people - you know, they used this drug a lot, before, with - they say it works, so... there's a lot of people dying. And they stopped studying it. People tell me 'oh, there were a lot of risks, it's very risky,' but... they use the drug a lot. Maybe even more than before. And you know, I've always said we should look at chloroquine, with the malaria- now they're looking at it, and they're saying it's risky, but- with the malaria, and the other things, they were using it, but they stopped studying it."


[24-Apr-20 07:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
how'd I do


[24-Apr-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was too spot on


[24-Apr-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good Trumpism, i rate it 8 fake news out of 10


[24-Apr-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-claims-disinfectant-light-coronavirus-treatment-remarks-were-sarcastic-2020-4

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Trump claims he was being sarcastic 'to see what would happen' when...
The Maryland Emergency Management Agency said it has since "received several calls regarding questions about disinfectant use and #COVID19."
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[24-Apr-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish presidents were chargable with negligent homicide, but his cronies in the senate would just bail his ass out


[24-Apr-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What kind of joke was that supposed to be


[24-Apr-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Ha! a lot of people died at my direction. I'm so funny"


[24-Apr-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admin-wants-to-use-postal-service-loan-as-leverage-report-2020-4

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[24-Apr-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/oklahoma-small-businesses-choose-either-financial-or-personal-health-2020-4

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[24-Apr-20 07:39 PM] Honahue#0656
meanwhile in Michigan Whitmer extended the stay at home


[24-Apr-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/gov-cooper-unveil-plan-easing-north-carolinas-stay-at-home-order/J2JHTBHX7JFRHLZQUFWRJABJ6Y as did governor cooper of north carolina

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‘We are not there yet’: North Carolina’s stay-at-home order extende...
North Carolina is going to remain in this new normal for a while longer.
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[24-Apr-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/494520-federal-judge-approves-facebook-ftc-settlement

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[24-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Donald Trump should inject himself with bleach so he can show how safe it is


[24-Apr-20 07:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> Trump claims he was being sarcastic 'to see what would happen'
Fantastic, all is forgiven ~GOP
How is such a party even getting votes


[24-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right wingers were up to now going "NO, FAKE NEWS, MISQUOTED TRUMP"


[24-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then Trump goes "lol I was just kidding to fuck with them"


[24-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
God


[24-Apr-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So tired


[24-Apr-20 07:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Little shits will now change their tune and pretend their first excuse never happened


[24-Apr-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty much sounds like my parents


[24-Apr-20 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yep, Breitbart's already pushed down their article saying he was misquoted and replaced it with one saying he was trolling the libs

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[24-Apr-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the comments are as you'd expect, gone from "NO HE WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, FAKE" to "HAHA, THEY TOOK HIM LITERALLY, TROLLED"

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[24-Apr-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
does this seriously not turn off anyone in their base?


[24-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, the base doesn't care.


[24-Apr-20 08:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The base just wants to own the libs


[24-Apr-20 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they see _anything that happens_ as owning the libs


[24-Apr-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism at its core is about finding excuses to justify putting one group on top, not on actually having any principles.


[24-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
As long as Trump is pushing for an authoritarian white nation, or at least disrupting efforts to create equality, conservatives are happy as can be.


[24-Apr-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The only way they could be happier is if Biden dropped some of his more liberal policies and managed to convince Dems that conservative BS is actually liberal.


[24-Apr-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It didn't seem like it was coming off as sarcastic when he was talking and turning to Dr. Birx on the side," Fox News anchor Bret Baier said on air after Trump's walk-back was reported.


[24-Apr-20 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe FOX will grow a spine and ask a hard question


[24-Apr-20 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And then the Kool Aid guy will burst through the room, tackle Trump, and drown him


[24-Apr-20 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
About the same chances


[24-Apr-20 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't think of one good thing Trump has done for the states that didn't vote for him


[24-Apr-20 08:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He treats them like you treat a business partner that fucked you over


[24-Apr-20 08:11 PM] Honahue#0656
he bailed out farmers when the China tariffs fucked them over


[24-Apr-20 08:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He hasn't done much better for the states that did vote for him, on that note


[24-Apr-20 08:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the farmer bailout didn't even make up for anywhere near what the trade war cost them


[24-Apr-20 08:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm struggling to think of a single thing the Trump administration has bailed out *successfully*


[24-Apr-20 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their own ass?


[24-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump treats everyone like a business partner that fukked him over.


[24-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's how he's marginally successful.


[24-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the business world, there's people that will, for a moment, believe he is a genuine, honest person, and then he will rip the rug out from under them and sell it for money.


[24-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the law is usually on his side in that.


[24-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'll get a company to build him something, then disagree with a few things in it, and not pay them.


[24-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they hav little to no recourse.


[24-Apr-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The legal system would take years to get him to pay, and the lawyer fees wouldn't be worth it.


[24-Apr-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A legal system that only benefits the wealthy really isn't great.


[24-Apr-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that sounds like a horrible track record. does he offer billions to make companies take the bait repeatedly?


[24-Apr-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, the idea is to always burn another company, even his own.


[24-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's just a neverending stream of victims to Trump.


[24-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The business world is full of idiots.


[24-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's an idiot too, but also a very malicious one.


[24-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he wasn't so able to influence, he'd just be one of the ones constantly getting his businesses crushed.


[24-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the system so benefits those higher up that once you're on top, you can do anything you want.


[24-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It reminds me of another president, in spite of being idiot, managed to let some foreigners steal billions of state funds.


[24-Apr-20 08:39 PM] Honahue#0656
when you're very rich other people will clean up your messes


[24-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trumps response in a image


[24-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[24-Apr-20 08:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie Googling "Trump's business victims" gave https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/trump-organization-properties-coronavirus

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Did the president’s about-face have anything to do with his own financial situation?
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[24-Apr-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he manages to lift the lockdown, he'll go and golf while the country falls appart and then hold a rally about how it;s the democrats fault the virus returned and the country fell apart


[24-Apr-20 08:47 PM] jlun2#8758
and then his supporters will do ritualistic dances about lib owning right


[24-Apr-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/494542-cuomo-orders-postage-paid-absentee-ballot-applications-to-be-sent-to-all

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Cuomo orders postage-paid absentee ballot applications to be sent t...
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) issued an executive order on Friday requiring state election officials to send postage-paid absentee ballot applications to all voters amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[24-Apr-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/910668/trump-reportedly-comes-into-work-late-noon-after-morning-rage-viewing-tv

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Trump reportedly comes into work as late as noon after a morning of...
Everyone confined to home during the COVID-19 pandemic deals with the angst, inconvenience, and boredom differently. President Trump, though not like any other American in most regards, begins and ends his day in front of the TV, arriving in the Oval Office as late as noon and...
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[24-Apr-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
How to avoid COVID https://i.redd.it/pme6jy4ypru41.jpg

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[24-Apr-20 09:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about light bulbs?


[24-Apr-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Apr-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ prez said to shine UV light internally to kill the virus


[24-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does not look like UV lights


[24-Apr-20 09:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It should be blacklight.


[24-Apr-20 09:24 PM] Honahue#0656
just gotta learn how to deepthroat a light saber


[24-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, take them in the rear.


[24-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Both holes.


[24-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Honahue#0656
god I used to make a dumb edgy joke about drinking bleach to fix all your problems and here comes Trump just saying that in all seriousness


[24-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Twilight way.


[24-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Honahue#0656
bleach enema


[24-Apr-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue no he's being "ironic" and "sarcastic" it's all forgiven


[24-Apr-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Apr-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thetop10news.com/2020/04/24/leader-of-group-peddling-bleach-as-coronavirus-cure-wrote-to-trump-this-week/

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Leader of group peddling bleach as coronavirus ‘cure’ wrote to Trum...
The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week. In his letter…
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[24-Apr-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
i assume the FDA has no power over that group to stop them?


[24-Apr-20 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
also how did ppl come up with this? did they saw a bleach meme and thought it was real?


[24-Apr-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money


[24-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The FDA warned them recently


[24-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Chances are, Trump will make sure the FDA takes no further action.


[24-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
laws only matter to those who _choose_ to abide them


[24-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
so no, not really :D


[24-Apr-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for everyone else, there's donating to trump


[24-Apr-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
donate to trump and get a permanent do whatever you want card!


[24-Apr-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
until he betrays you later


[24-Apr-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
inevitably yes!


[24-Apr-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but until then no one but him can touch you!


[24-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
a pretty good deal tbh


[24-Apr-20 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) learning about the existence of industrial bleach miracle cure cult was a high point of my day though, so thanks for that :D


[24-Apr-20 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[24-Apr-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Apr-20 11:01 PM] jlun2#8758
memes about them make them stronger


[24-Apr-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Apr-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
The Poe's law is strong with this one


[24-Apr-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
so will they do it? pls?


[24-Apr-20 11:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Democrats will win if all the MAGA hats end up dying listening to Trumps nonsense.


[24-Apr-20 11:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony  too bad they dont vote


[24-Apr-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neither will the maga hats at this rate


[24-Apr-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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MAGA My Brothers (not real)
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[24-Apr-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Apr-20 11:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hooray! The IRS finally processed my 2019 return so I was eligible for the stimulus check! But...
...they haven't processed my 2019 return yet so the numbers on AGI didn't match. They needed my 2018 return numbers. Which worked fine. And I'm getting my check.
*g o v e r n m e n t*


[24-Apr-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now you jsut have to wait 9 months while they slowly print trump's name on it

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[24-Apr-20 11:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] too real :sad:


[24-Apr-20 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/24/new-evidence-tara-reade-joe-biden/

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[25-Apr-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Briefing lasted like 15 minutes today


[25-Apr-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
99% it's because they didn't want to hear questions about disinfectants and UV light


[25-Apr-20 12:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
probably because the news came out about where he got that from, too


[25-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498

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[25-Apr-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, the video is "cringe", she's trying to remain perfectly still and ignore Trump as he keeps "asking" her


[25-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
in her head "maybe his vision is based on motion, if I stay very still he'll forget about me"


[25-Apr-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-usps-hike-amazon-prices-or-lose-bailout-2020-4

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Trump vows to 'never let our Post Office fail' hours after threaten...
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[25-Apr-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3 months later "I never vowed to keep the post office open, the media jsut misunderstood me"


[25-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stunning-photos-videos-show-huge-protest-at-wisconsin-state-capitol-2020-4

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Stunning photos and videos show thousands gathered at the Wisconsin...
The protest over Gov. Tony Evers' extension of the stay-at-home order to May 26 is believed to be the largest yet to take place in any state.
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[25-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My Dad today: "Who cares, let them just reopen and all die"


[25-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] *Our crew on the ground reports some people are carrying long guns at this protest.* [...]


[25-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol


[25-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you gonna do if you shoot someone?


[25-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spend 2 minutes reloading?


[25-Apr-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know, I'm more worried about getting hit by the singular button restraining the paunch of Guy Fawkes there

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[25-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Steampunk Guy Fawkes too.


[25-Apr-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
At least Green Bay Man is wearing a proper mask


[25-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus, these Stonetoss clones just are shittier and shittier

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[25-Apr-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> black Mussolini


[25-Apr-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:wat:


[25-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he heard that Sicilians are brown and then took it to an extreme.


[25-Apr-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mussolini was from Emilia-Romagna.


[25-Apr-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's also the worst fucking FDR I've ever seen.


[25-Apr-20 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
Pretty sure that's reference for a meme


[25-Apr-20 02:19 AM] ononim#8141
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[25-Apr-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-mayor-desert-heat-weather-coronavirus-reopen-earlier-2020-4

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Las Vegas mayor says without definitive evidence that the city's wa...
Despite no definitive evidence of the effect of heat on the virus, "it is assumed that it will deter its ferocity," Mayor Carolyn Hartman said.
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[25-Apr-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@ononim I don't get it, can you please explain it in a Wojak variant?


[25-Apr-20 02:22 AM] ononim#8141
About the comic or tweet?


[25-Apr-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[25-Apr-20 02:22 AM] ononim#8141
Or is it sarcasm I don't get bexause I am sleepy


[25-Apr-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's sarcasm


[25-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was mocking how certain groups tend to mock certain behaviors they associate with leftists but indulge in very similar behaviors themselves.


[25-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex:

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[25-Apr-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/703395964391784620
Holy shit


[25-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, is it just supposed to be the modern day black guy in Mussolini's position?


[25-Apr-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still doesn't make any sense.


[25-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy knows Mussolini killed a lot of Ethiopians right?


[25-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"knows"


[25-Apr-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Strong assumption there


[25-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I generally think people like this react like fruit flies, the sort of thing with a finite known number of neurons and thought processes


[25-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone criticizes Trump / the current admin, react instantly with ORANGE MAN BAD


[25-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
RENT FREE


[25-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Orange man bad" as a criticism of the left is actually pretty genius self own


[25-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It shows that the understanding of your political enemy is super limited


[25-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The left can't meme" means "The left uses too many big words"


[25-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But when the left says "Eat the rich" or something, it's not good either


[25-Apr-20 02:42 AM] jlun2#8758
> stonetoss clones
oh no they're multiplying


[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] ononim#8141
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[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] ononim#8141
I still think it is reference to this thing


[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] ononim#8141
Since you know


[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] ononim#8141
black mussolini


[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] ononim#8141
and it has franco


[25-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still dumb


[25-Apr-20 02:47 AM] ononim#8141
So yeah I am not sure if it's ironic or unironic


[25-Apr-20 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
As the great Felix Beiderman says of conservative comedy: Conservative comedy is basically a guy going up on stage and going, "Yo if I had a daughter - and I don't but I'm just saying if I did - and this trans-sexual queer came up to her I would FUCKING KILL THEM HOLY SHIT FUCK OFF YOU LIBERAL CUCK GOD DAMN IT"


[25-Apr-20 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2cR_jdFfwo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2cR_jdFfwo
Chapo Trap House - Conservative Cartoons (Full Episode)
From Episode 141 - Chapo Cartoon Cavalcade.
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[25-Apr-20 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Related


[25-Apr-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>62 minutes of talking about boomer conservative comics


[25-Apr-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx, but I already have less painful ways of getting cancer


[25-Apr-20 02:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
:^)


[25-Apr-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it all always anthropomorphic ducks with these conservatives


[25-Apr-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That weird comic and Duckman


[25-Apr-20 02:51 AM] illumnious#7938
like he even have any goddam shame to begin with https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-finally-shows-signs-of-shame/

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Trump finally shows signs of shame
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[25-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Political cartoons peaked at Bloom County and Doonesbury


[25-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Far Side ruined a generation of cartoonists


[25-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Far Side was great


[25-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those copying it... were not


[25-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So was Adventure Time and Scott Pilgrim


[25-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[25-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Far Side was just shitposts in image form, then people aped the style to "send a message"


[25-Apr-20 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Cartooning died when newspapers died.


[25-Apr-20 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now that online news publication and Twitter became a thing the bar was set as low as the floor.


[25-Apr-20 02:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/breitbart-issues-humiliating-correction-on-a-bogus-fact-check-that-denied-trump-proposed-injecting-disinfectants

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After President Donald Trump made the reckless and preposterous suggestion that disinfectants could potentially be injected as treatment for COVID-19 — an extraordinarily hazardous idea that experts have roundly rejected — his allies at Breitbart News swung into action to defe...
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[25-Apr-20 02:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where as before there was at least something of a barrier to entry that was the editor himself, or a team of them


[25-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I watched the breitbart thing "live"


[25-Apr-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the same as on FOX btw, just with the comment section adding added "hilarity"


[25-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Going from "He was just issuing an informed question to the medical professionals" to "lmao, just trolling the libs!" like nothing


[25-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they lap it up


[25-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if Trump were president during the AIDS crisis


[25-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan at least said nothing despite privately thinking "Good, gays are dying"


[25-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are so many horrible scenarios I can imagine I just don't know where to begin


[25-Apr-20 02:56 AM] illumnious#7938
oh godd


[25-Apr-20 02:56 AM] illumnious#7938
no


[25-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'd probably refuse to stop calling it GRID


[25-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Reagan didn't talk about AIDS publicly until his Hollywood friend Rock Hudson died of it)


[25-Apr-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
"Idiot Alchemist Donald Trump Says Sun and Bleach Will Save You"


[25-Apr-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this the same guy who stared directly into the eclipse with his naked eyes?


[25-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pointed at it too so his 3rd wife could see


[25-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The eclipse was so cool


[25-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not cool enough to go blind for, though


[25-Apr-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ahh that's hot


[25-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok Paris Hilton


[25-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Apr-20 03:53 AM] jlun2#8758
let's do it?


[25-Apr-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Notable that they made that weeks before Trump's recent moment of genius


[25-Apr-20 04:20 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck


[25-Apr-20 04:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[25-Apr-20 04:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Colleges closed forever" wtf


[25-Apr-20 04:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Then how about the students?


[25-Apr-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
they're fucked


[25-Apr-20 04:24 AM] jlun2#8758
buttfucked with no refunds


[25-Apr-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
RIP their degrees


[25-Apr-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
the current job market is awful for liberal arts


[25-Apr-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
it's actually quite fine for liberal arts


[25-Apr-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
😮


[25-Apr-20 04:26 AM] illumnious#7938
> "Colleges closed forever" wtf
@AlchemistLiang okay, what the actual fuckery


[25-Apr-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
employers will actually hire anyone, the "you need to be a stem major" thing is a lie used to try to drive people into stem majors and drive down the cost of engineers


[25-Apr-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
it's deliberate and fabricated


[25-Apr-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
welcome to neoliberalism


[25-Apr-20 04:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So if they want a degree, they must take the college entrance exam again to enter another college?


[25-Apr-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
i wonder how long will it take for trade schools; been reading and hearing about that for them for a while now too @byte[]


[25-Apr-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang it works differently here


[25-Apr-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
most schools do not have entrance exams


[25-Apr-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
there is a a standardized exam (either the SAT, by College Board, or the ACT) depending on where you live and where you plan to go to school


[25-Apr-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
you take it _once_ (or as many times as you want until you get a score you are happy with)


[25-Apr-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
and then it sticks with you permanently


[25-Apr-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
as part of applying to a school, you send a check to College Board or ACT Inc. for $15 and tell them where to send the test transcript


[25-Apr-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
after that, you fill out the college-specific application (which can generally either be mailed in, submitted in person at the registrar, or completed online)


[25-Apr-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and then wait for your notice of acceptance (or rejection, if they don't want you)


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... then will the bankruptted college return the tuition?


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
well, they'll almost certainly return it for the upcoming semester for students who paid in advance


[25-Apr-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
but those students could already afford college


[25-Apr-20 04:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How much is the tuition in the US?


[25-Apr-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
for public schools, anywhere between $6000 and $30000 per semester


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
for private, the upper end is higher


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here public schools 1000~5000 yuan


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While 7 yuan is 1 dollar


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
China places a lot of emphasis on higher education


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
the US does not do its fair share of that


[25-Apr-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
hence why we live in a country full of stupid people


[25-Apr-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's about in line with EU, was about 300 per year in Spain, 2000 in the UK


[25-Apr-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
it is my opinion that any competent country in the 21st century needs to let its citizens get as much as education as they desire _for free_


[25-Apr-20 04:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China children over 7 are forced to take education


[25-Apr-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
there also have to not be these arcane penalties for failure, and given that it is possible to do it now, we have to transition to mastery-based learning


[25-Apr-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of semester-based learning


[25-Apr-20 04:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only a very few children can escape from the forced education because of religious reasons


[25-Apr-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
"religious reasons" sounds horrifying


[25-Apr-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the situation with homeschooling here is a tragedy


[25-Apr-20 04:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@jlun2 actually the religion here is just Tibetan Buddhism


[25-Apr-20 04:40 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] is it just religious folks doing that?


[25-Apr-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I suspect many of them are


[25-Apr-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
but the proper name for the parent who homeschools her kid is typically "Karen"


[25-Apr-20 04:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Those Tibetan monks wearing high yellow hats just force their children to learn buddha things


[25-Apr-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
"Karen" doesn't know anything about religion


[25-Apr-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
but she can't send her kid to school because he doesn't have his vaccinations and she "knows" the teachers are "poisoning his mind"


[25-Apr-20 04:43 AM] jlun2#8758
how rich are they again?


[25-Apr-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
anywhere from 20k-120k annual income is typical


[25-Apr-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
but "Karen" can be in any income class


[25-Apr-20 04:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Tibetan Buddhists used to have many kinky traditions, which were banned in 20th century

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[25-Apr-20 04:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like, the monks will imprison a woman in their temple as "holy woman"


[25-Apr-20 04:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] I assume it's unfixable?


[25-Apr-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
the time to fix it was three decades ago


[25-Apr-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately, fucking boomers


[25-Apr-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
so unfixable in my lifetime, got it


[25-Apr-20 04:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And monks will do sex with the "holy woman" in turns as religious ceremony

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[25-Apr-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
hot


[25-Apr-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like a hentai plot


[25-Apr-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
any reason why american parents are paranoid nuts more so than other countries?


[25-Apr-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
anti-intellectual tradition


[25-Apr-20 04:48 AM] jlun2#8758
are they repressed or something


[25-Apr-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism#United_States

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Anti-intellectualism is hostility to and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectualism, commonly expressed as deprecation of education and philosophy and the dismissal of art, literature, and science as impractical, politically motivated, and even contemptible huma...
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[25-Apr-20 04:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trumps-own-administration-scrambles-to-prevent-people-from-using-disinfectants-the-way-the-president-suggested/?utm_source=push_notifications

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On Friday, The Washington Post reported that members of the Trump administration are “scrambling” to make sure people don’t actually try to inject themselves with household cleaning products — as President Donald Trump himself suggested on Thursday scientists should be looking...
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[25-Apr-20 04:49 AM] jlun2#8758
how the hell is China still not able to catch up


[25-Apr-20 04:49 AM] jlun2#8758
Rich American idiots are literally poisoning themselves


[25-Apr-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
because China is somewhat of a paper tiger


[25-Apr-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
despite extremely rapid technological advancement from its central spending plans, it doesn't have the economic firepower that the US does on the world stage (at least not yet)


[25-Apr-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
and they are increasingly being seen as predatory


[25-Apr-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
other countries are (rightfully) rejecting Chinese money for their absurd repayment terms and their crimes against humanity


[25-Apr-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
this wikipedia page just makes me sad:
> About 25% of the U.S. population believes in a geocentric solar system (that the sun orbits the earth),[29] and in 2014 35% of Americans could not name any branch of the U.S. government.[30]


[25-Apr-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
America surpassed the number of people who recovered from coronavirus

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[25-Apr-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> In the rural U.S., anti-intellectualism is an essential feature of the religious culture of Christian fundamentalism.[35


[25-Apr-20 04:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> About 25% of the U.S. population believes in a geocentric solar system (that the sun orbits the earth),
and they get higher paying jobs than most college grad millenials right


[25-Apr-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
these are the kind of people who haven't figured out that herbalife is a pyramid scheme


[25-Apr-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
that legit sounds like my aunt


[25-Apr-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
every week she keeps giving my family stuff like that


[25-Apr-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
essential oils and shit?


[25-Apr-20 04:54 AM] jlun2#8758
yes


[25-Apr-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
We keep getting "free" stuff because family


[25-Apr-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
no idea of where she's getting them


[25-Apr-20 04:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk why, everytime when Dow Jones and Nasdaq raise up, all the stocks I bought just fall down


[25-Apr-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
because the stonk market is unpredictable


[25-Apr-20 04:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang buy low sell lower :sadface:


[25-Apr-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610

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[25-Apr-20 04:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I found the stocks I bought just go opposite of Dow


[25-Apr-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
trade randomly


[25-Apr-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
outsmarting the market doesn't work


[25-Apr-20 04:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So I'm hoping Dow fall down again next week


[25-Apr-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] just curious, how do (somewhat) younger anti-intellectuals survive in todays market? nepotism (parents have connections, friends, etc)? or do they live in some alt universe with plenty of opportunity?


[25-Apr-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
nepotism


[25-Apr-20 05:22 AM] jlun2#8758
k ty :sad:


[25-Apr-20 05:22 AM] jlun2#8758
i doubt that's exactly sustainable though; wonder will it collaspe?


[25-Apr-20 05:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[25-Apr-20 05:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
New record of daily new cases


[25-Apr-20 05:29 AM] Midknight#9798
This is your public service reminder that UV light is bad for your skin and injecting bleach into yourself is a really, really bad thing to do.


[25-Apr-20 05:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The virus can only survive in the living cells, so if we kill all the cells in our lungs, the virus will be killed as well

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[25-Apr-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
technically the truth


[25-Apr-20 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it sticks around in the testicles, better take care of those too


[25-Apr-20 05:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I used to make a joke about drinking bleach to cure illness but I can't cause our president is impossible to parody


[25-Apr-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
it's even dumber because he said to inject it


[25-Apr-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
turns out Zoomers were ahead of the curve eating tide pods for the meme but Boomers are just as dumb cause they inject bleach when Trump says to


[25-Apr-20 05:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Inject Tide Pods to cue high blood fat


[25-Apr-20 05:51 AM] Honahue#0656
technically correct


[25-Apr-20 05:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony YES :glowing_eyes: :sombralick:


[25-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/exclusive-adam-schiff-blocking-release-of-key-russia-investigation-witness-transcripts-officials-say

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Exclusive: Adam Schiff blocking release of key Russia investigation...
The House Intelligence Committee voted unanimously in the fall of 2018 to release dozens of witness interview transcripts from its investigation into Russian interference, but the transcripts have not been made public.
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[25-Apr-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
>WE


[25-Apr-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
can I have this from a source that isn't a right wing rag


[25-Apr-20 06:55 AM] Midknight#9798
Nope


[25-Apr-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I did find this, which I don't know if it's about the same thing, but https://thehill.com/homenews/house/494583-doj-will-appeal-ruling-over-sealed-mueller-materials-to-supreme-court

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DOJ will appeal ruling over sealed Mueller materials to Supreme Court
The Department of Justice will appeal to the Supreme Court after it was ordered to hand over sealed documents from former special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation to Congress.
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[25-Apr-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that ruling, btw, in further detail https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-judge-sets-target-deadline-for-review-of-the-unredacted-mueller-report/

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Federal Judge Sets Target Deadline for Completed Review of the Unre...
A privacy and civil liberties group that nudged a federal judge one week ago, asking him to review the unredacted version of the Mueller Report as soon as possible, has gotten an answer. U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton set a target deadline on Wednesday for completing his re...
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[25-Apr-20 11:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

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Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China
The president's financial dealings with the state-owned bank complicate his attacks on Biden.
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[25-Apr-20 11:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-ryan-2000-coronavirus-stimulus-do-more-for-working-class-2020-4

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'Let Mitch McConnell say no to it': Rep. Tim Ryan explains his plan...
Rep. Tim Ryan, an Ohio moderate, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York progressive, both think Democrats need to be more aggressive.
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[25-Apr-20 11:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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A spike in New Yorkers ingesting household cleaners following Trump...
NYC's Poison Control Center, a sub-agency of the city’s Health Department, managed a total of 30 cases of possible exposure to disinfectants between 9 p.m. Thursday and 3 p.m. Friday.
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[25-Apr-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494561-coronavirus-spreads-to-trump-country

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Coronavirus spreads to Trump country
The coronavirus pandemic that has hammered some of America's largest cities is now spreading to smaller rural areas, a progression that will bring a virus President Trump once downplayed to the doorsteps of voters who sent him to the White House.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/rural_trump_sign.jpg


[25-Apr-20 12:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You won't believe many Chinese are praising the US government on what they're doing about corona


[25-Apr-20 12:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their words used to be like: 
"even if America xxx, American they still live longer and happier than Chinese"
"America full of bad news only because they have freedom of news reports"
"if America so bad, why do all people want to go to America?"


[25-Apr-20 01:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And this time "corona only kill few American who are poors, anyone being poor in such a rich country is either stupid or lazy"


[25-Apr-20 01:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[25-Apr-20 01:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And this one just "you weak, cowardly and helpless people will never understand such a country and citizens that never fear any natural disasters"


[25-Apr-20 01:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our internet is full of nationalists and amti-nationalists fucking each other everyday... and I'd say both of them is fucking brainless


[25-Apr-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494574-trump-coronavirus-briefings-put-health-officials-in-bind

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Trump coronavirus briefings put health officials in bind
Health experts on the White House coronavirus task force increasingly are being put in a tough spot by the president’s daily press briefings.
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[25-Apr-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
```"America full of bad news only because they have freedom of news reports"```


[25-Apr-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
absolutely correct.


[25-Apr-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest, not so much.


[25-Apr-20 02:21 PM] byte[]#2610
wrong premises, right conclusion


[25-Apr-20 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
also anti-intellectualism isn't about distrusting science, it's about distrusting ideas without a direct practical application. I imagine it would cover high politics, but not, for instance, medicine or engineering.


[25-Apr-20 02:23 PM] byte[]#2610
> Anti-intellectualism is hostility to and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectualism, commonly expressed as deprecation of education and philosophy and the dismissal of art, literature, and science as impractical, politically motivated, and even contemptible human pursuits.[1]


[25-Apr-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
> In the U.S., the American conservative[11] economist Thomas Sowell argued for distinctions between unreasonable and reasonable wariness of intellectuals in their influence upon the institutions of a society. In defining intellectuals as "people whose occupations deal primarily with ideas", they are different from people whose work is the practical application of ideas.


[25-Apr-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
more on that in the wiki.


[25-Apr-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm reading this shit rn.


[25-Apr-20 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
basicly it seems to be directly tied to power play. If The Enemy wants the whole of the people to vote, let them have it, we'll _make_ the people we want with the votes we need.


[25-Apr-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
and tbh rejecting closed loop 'sciences' like modern economics, politics, sociology, that work just so because someone somewhere said it must, and nobody dared to disagree, makes a lot of sense.


[25-Apr-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
> In Anti-Intellectualism in American Life (1963) the historian Richard Hofstadter said that anti-intellectualism is a social-class response, by the middle-class "mob", against the privileges of the political elites.[22] As the middle class developed political power, they exercised their belief that the ideal candidate to office was the "self-made man", not the well-educated man born to wealth. The self-made man, from the middle class, could be trusted to act in the best interest of his fellow citizens.[23] In Americans and Chinese: Passages to Differences (1980), Francis Hsu said that American egalitarianism is stronger in the U.S. than in Europe, e.g. in England,


[25-Apr-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
and a quote to follow. So, basicly current liberal thinking :D


[25-Apr-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/04/24/coronavirus-denver-health-bonus-ceo-pay-cuts/

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Denver Health Executives Get Bonuses 1 Week After Workers Asked To ...
Top executives at Denver Health received significant bonuses one week after frontline hospital workers were asked to voluntarily take leave or reduce their hours.
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[25-Apr-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
or at least, this here local branch of liberal thinking anyway.


[25-Apr-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
> Miami University anthropology professor H. Sidky has argued that 21st-century anti-scientific and pseudoscientific approaches to knowledge, particularly in the United States, are rooted in a postmodernist "decades-long academic assault on science:" "Many of those indoctrinated in postmodern anti-science went on to become conservative political and religious leaders, policymakers, journalists, journal editors, judges, lawyers, and members of city councils and school boards. Sadly, they forgot the lofty ideals of their teachers, except that science is bogus."[26]


[25-Apr-20 02:39 PM] Opponent#3498
just because your colleges think you know what you're talking about doesn't mean you don't suck monkey balls as a professor.


[25-Apr-20 02:41 PM] Opponent#3498
and then starts the 'orange man bad' section


[25-Apr-20 02:41 PM] Opponent#3498
:<


[25-Apr-20 02:41 PM] byte[]#2610
So what are the antivaxers and flat earthers of the world if not anti intellectuals


[25-Apr-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
good question. They don't fit the provided definition.


[25-Apr-20 02:42 PM] Opponent#3498
cause they reject very much practically applicable and empyric knowledge.


[25-Apr-20 03:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/7hdpnm18hxu41.png

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[25-Apr-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I say if they're dumb enough to drink bleach, let them drink bleach


[25-Apr-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess it;s a good thing we dont have a ready supply of syringes on a whim


[25-Apr-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again it might be better if we did...


[25-Apr-20 04:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually that's a good idea to improve the national knowledge level


[25-Apr-20 04:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By killing stupid ones


[25-Apr-20 04:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.antena3.com/noticias/mundo/mas-100-ingresados-estados-unidos-ingerir-detergente-lejia-coronavirus-indicaciones-donald-trump_202004255ea3ebf04cbdf600015f2908.html?so=so%3Asour-facebook%3Acn-antena3

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Más de 100 ingresados en Estados Unidos tras ingerir detergente o l...
Más de 100 estadounidenses han tenido que ser ingresados tras ingerir detergente o lejía por las indicaciones de que dio el presidente estadounidense DonaldnTrump.
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[25-Apr-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494640-cdc-adds-six-more-symptoms-for-coronavirus

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CDC adds six more symptoms for coronavirus
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) added six new symptoms for the coronavirus to its website as officials still grapple with gauging the illness’s scope.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_cdclogo_012420getty_2.jpg


[25-Apr-20 04:40 PM] Opponent#3498
...nah, all of this was known already


[25-Apr-20 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
perhaps now it's officially added, but this was appearing in PSAs in early March already.


[25-Apr-20 04:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-china-reports-covid-19-deaths-9th/story?id=70324535

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Maryland agency receives more than 100 disinfectant use calls
A global pandemic of the novel coronavirus has now killed more than 195,000 people worldwide.
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[25-Apr-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Like I said, what the hell


[25-Apr-20 05:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What if it is a ruse to reduce virus related deaths?


[25-Apr-20 05:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, the amazing accounting technique known as attributing one death to another.


[25-Apr-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we kill off people with disinfectant, that's less people dying of the plague!


[25-Apr-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-immigration-crackdown-is-creating-new-coronavirus-hotspots-2020-4

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Trump's immigration crackdown is creating new coronavirus hotspots
COVID-19 has effectively shown what the administration's vision for the US border would look like if it were given free rein.
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[25-Apr-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/GwfVlJV

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Conservatives, here's your COVID talking points, straight from the corporate GOP strategists!
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[25-Apr-20 06:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Apr-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
I like the playbook, I really do


[25-Apr-20 06:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
every conservative think tank is like this, bear in mind


[25-Apr-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://neoskosmos.com/en/41315/greek-orthodox-bishop-calls-on-erdogan-to-denounce-islam-and-be-baptised/

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Greek Orthodox Bishop calls on Erdogan to denounce Islam and be bap...
The proposal comes with the added suggestion that Russian President Vladimir Putin be his godfather.
https://cdn1.neoskosmos.com/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/Metropolit_Seraphim.jpg


[25-Apr-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nerds fightin


[25-Apr-20 06:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it's amusing that not only does it not care who's running against the person this is intended for, it also doesn't care who the person is.


[25-Apr-20 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
the sourced info also looks legitimate enough at a glance.


[25-Apr-20 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
how would one go about refuting this? Especially when some of the things vs China are common knowledge, you _would_ expect them to lie, mislead and doctor evidence to protect Xi's fragile ego and image


[25-Apr-20 07:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 how long would it take for them to catch on the edit


[25-Apr-20 07:42 PM] jlun2#8758
>   "if America so bad, why do all people want to go to America?" 
because high wages relative to their home country standard of living

also Americans happier than Chinese? huh. in my experience I keep seeing ppl in US get burnt out, :depressed: then vanish online


[25-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
US has 2a. If you're feeling down, the easy, convenient and reliable solution is a store trip away


[25-Apr-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
that's unironically a pretty good argument for me.


[25-Apr-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Kim Jong-un is likely dead


[25-Apr-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.jpost.com/international/china-sent-team-with-medical-experts-to-advise-on-nkoreas-kim-625831

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Kim Jong Un in a 'vegetative state' after heart surgery - Japanese ...
China has dispatched a team to North Korea including medical experts to advise on him, according to three people familiar with the situation.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/454683


[25-Apr-20 08:21 PM] Honahue#0656
looking forward to his shark eye'd sister taking over the country

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[25-Apr-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
ironically would be yet another country to get a female leader before the US


[25-Apr-20 08:23 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but this girl looks like she killed someone just to see how it feels


[25-Apr-20 08:23 PM] Honahue#0656
she's the vice director of Propaganda or something


[25-Apr-20 08:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like the girls you'd see on a cbt DVD porn cover sold in Akihabara


[25-Apr-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
fake?

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[25-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably, I'd expect they'd take a month to announce he died, assuming he did


[25-Apr-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was supposedly video of him visiting some random place a couple of days ago, but tat could've been stock footage in reserve


[25-Apr-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-has-designed-a-mass-producible-ventilator-for-future-waves-of-coronavirus

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NASA Has Designed a Mass-Producible Ventilator For a Second Wave of...
NASA engineers have designed a mass-producible ventilator tailored to coronavirus patients, and it could get emergency approval from the Food and Drug Administration by the weekend.
https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2020-04/processed/maxresdefault_2_1_1024.jpg


[25-Apr-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
1/8th the price of a "low-cost" ventillator, and uses a ton less parts.


[25-Apr-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
So where is all this magical "free market competition" out there doing anything remotely similar?


[25-Apr-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine NASA if its budget never decreased over the years.


[25-Apr-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The R&D from it could've had us close to curing cancer by now.


[25-Apr-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
neoliberals: you get a budget cut, and you get a budget cut, and everyone gets a budget cut


[25-Apr-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's called "restructuring" or "reorganizing to better focus on our core mission"


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "restructuring" often meaning that part of one agency's job gets handed to another, increasing costs.


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're not firing people, you're "making the department leaner"


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then budgets are slashed under the logic of things being "redundant"


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then offices are moved, repeatedly, further increasing costs.


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Making sure we invest in the areas we're able to make the most impact in"


[25-Apr-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, during all this, no projects are dropped or stalled, just delayed.


[25-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The delay then means people get paid more for less work, ensuring more cost and less productivity.


[25-Apr-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then they go "see, NASA is using too much money for so little! We should cut its budget!"


[25-Apr-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
> So where is all this magical "free market competition" out there doing anything remotely similar?
I don't think this will ever stop neolib supporters


[25-Apr-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
> Kim, believed to be 36, has disappeared from coverage in North Korean state media before
oh wow that's super young


[25-Apr-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's extremely obese.


[25-Apr-20 08:54 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/04/trump-administration-moves-allow-doctors-refuse-trans-patients-covid-rages/

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Trump administration moves to allow doctors to refuse trans patient...
The new rule would roll back Obama era protections that ban discrimination against transgender people at the worst time possible...
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[25-Apr-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Choose a different profession if you want to be like that, IMO.


[25-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty faulty logic involved with it. Too


[25-Apr-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I disagree with you existing so I won't help you not die when that's my job I'm paid for?"


[25-Apr-20 09:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not the logic


[25-Apr-20 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the logic is, "I'm a doctor and I know what's good for you and the answer is nothing, burn in hell"


[25-Apr-20 09:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
to them, the part of the hippocratic oath that says therapeutic nihilism is bad is *wrong.*


[25-Apr-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or they use an outdated version of the declaration of geneva that doesn't have all those extra things you can't discriminate against, like age, disability, gender, and sexual orientation


[25-Apr-20 09:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the 1948 version's very "leave it to beaver"


[25-Apr-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
how many american doctors are like that?


[25-Apr-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
are they mostly celebrating at this repeal?


[25-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
```or they use an outdated version of the declaration of geneva that doesn't have all those extra things you can't discriminate against, like age, disability, gender, and sexual orientation```


[25-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
people still do though


[25-Apr-20 09:20 PM] Opponent#3498
part of life


[25-Apr-20 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a minority of doctors, for sure


[25-Apr-20 09:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
probably a higher percentage of hospital CEOs tho


[25-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Opponent#3498
throw out sexual orientation and partially gender.


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do recall


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
American doctors take the symptoms of women less seriously than men


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
and also vary treatments by race too


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
everything else, like people above 65 or 70 might as well not bother calling ambulance with heart-related issues


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk women can get like, less than two thirds the prescription of white men.


[25-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans can be so sexist at times


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> American doctors take the symptoms of women less seriously
:sad:


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That meteorologists often hesitate to name hurricanes with female names


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
*After* accounting for body size differences.


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because people take them less seriously


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doctors are trained to believe that women simply make symptoms up.


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which sounds more intimidating


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hurricane Mark or Hurricane Maria


[25-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Male patients are also often more aggressive about explaining that they do hav something wrong with them.


[25-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mark sounds like the hurricane that's just here to chill.


[25-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maria is probably a Bond villain here to steal something.


[25-Apr-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hurricane maria, it flows better which means yuou can give it a more intimidating voice


[25-Apr-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
> Male patients are also often more aggressive
that sounds like a high liability


[25-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Irvin/Irene is a better example.


[25-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
People won't take Irene seriously at all.


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
That sounds abusable, like naming all the weaker storms male names and all the stronger ones female ones just because "fun"


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is what you name it will affect how people take evacuation orders.


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
female stereotype is fickle, emotional, unpredictable, out there to fuck with you because it's fun


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to match the name to the strength.


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
fits a natural disaster pretty well, all things considered


[25-Apr-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
> The problem is what you name it will affect how people take evacuation orders.
so yea, like I said, "fun"


[25-Apr-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hurricane persephone


[25-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doctors will, I shit you not, dismiss Oprah as not really having a problem and then underprescribe her.


[25-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
While giving a full normal treatment to some random guy next to her.


[25-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually a serious part of the reason we need AI to determine prescriptions.


[25-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doctors REGULARLY prescribe less of everything to blakk people and women.


[25-Apr-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie too bad then they make baises in AI and claim it has none


[25-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because at the end of the day, they aren't doing a simple body weight calculation


[25-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
they're taking into account their experience...including biases.


[25-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is part of the reason that blakk people end up dying of diseases a lot more, even when they hav the same health insurance coverage.


[25-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doctor just doesn't think they need so much of a lifesaving drug or chemotherapy or such.


[25-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, doctors get REALLY mad when procedures improve to the point a nurse can do something.


[25-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It severely undercuts their services.


[25-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, America needs a whole new idea of what makes a "doctor", @Itsthinking


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, many such will say that LGBT people should be set aside from care.


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] jlun2#8758
I knew it


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're often old and nobody can challenge their decisions.


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what do you do if your doctor refuses to prescribe you something?


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just appeal to the hospital normally.


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to find another doctor.


[25-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the independence they get actually means they wield tons of control over patients.


[25-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I remember my doctor didn't like it when I told them I went to a clinic instead of them once


[25-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, huge egos.


[25-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Dr. Strange is kind of accurate.


[25-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair, the clinic was super expensive even with insurance


[25-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how doctors are told to be.


[25-Apr-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant even afford a doctor, my closest bet is a $50/month clinic


[25-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a clinic near me that's $40 a visit.


[25-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, that's for dental too, so it's actually fairly cheap for MURRIKA.


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i should ask if the clinic covers dental, though probably not


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit that reminds me


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The last interview I had before the virus, they talked about compensation/insurance/profit sharing


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
> huge ego
yet when I brag I'm told to be humble. Sucks to be young


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
One time they messed up and put local anesthetic on the wrong side of my mouth because they got which wisdom tooth to take out mixed up.


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely they don't bring that up unless they are planning on hiring you?


[25-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one doing the procedure was rather confident so she just figured why not do both sides.

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[25-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
$40 and two wisdom teeth out, one of which they previously tried to get me to see an actual surgeon over (it was completely sideways and under the gum).


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking they would even if they aren't planning.


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is compensation and such will entice you to stay with them while they weed people out.


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could still be weeded out.


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm currently using ym wisom teeth to compensate for my now missing back bicuspids


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
how much did wisdom teeth cost


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that they get to make sure you don't go interview for a competitor right away.


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
oh boy that reminds me, I probably should do something about my own wisdom teeth once this is all over... :/


[25-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 altogether, $120 for three visits.


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because i couldnt adfford to see someone to get those teeth treeated before they rotted away


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lower left, lower right, then both upper.


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I was only born with one?


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm surprised they didn't charge thousands "because they can"


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lower right got infected after the procedure btw, but the infection went away on its own.


[25-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My brother got his taken out and I think he only had two


[25-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I got three halfway in and one sideways.


[25-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Teeth halfway in can't be brushed btw, so they just decay.


[25-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sideways teeth meanwhile push things together in a bad way.


[25-Apr-20 09:42 PM] jlun2#8758
can confirm. my tooth is making some decay smell and taste, due to covid i cant get it removed


[25-Apr-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Tractor supply is hiring!" yeah, no thanks. i;m not risking my life in a pandemic for minimum wage


[25-Apr-20 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
much less a "do all the jobs in the store minus manager" type job for minumum wage


[25-Apr-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-cuomo-allows-pharmacies-to-conduct-virus-tests-2020-4

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Cuomo is signing an executive order allowing New York pharmacies to...
Gov. Cuomo said on Saturday he's ramping up diagnostic COVID-19 testing across the state, directing more than 5,000 pharmacies to conduct tests.
https://i.insider.com/5ea4900e4bca6308c6390783?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Apr-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-memo-republican-campaigns-to-attack-china-for-covid-19-2020-4

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A 57-page memo urged GOP campaigns to blame China for the coronavir...
The memo said Republicans shouldn't defend Trump's handling of the pandemic but should shift the conversation to blaming China.
https://i.insider.com/5ea46d15f242ab7de402bed3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Apr-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
his 2020 campaign is going to be about china now instead of mexico right


[25-Apr-20 11:44 PM] byte[]#2610
it's so strange that the chinese people are defending him


[25-Apr-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-mayor-apologizes-after-violating-stay-home-order-go-nail-n1192631

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Texas mayor apologizes after violating stay-at-home order to go to ...
Jefferson County District Attorney’s Office and the state's licensing and regulation department are investigating after Beaumont Mayor Becky Ames was seen at the salon.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_17/3324481/200425-becky-ames-cover-al-1148_e5159d26d9c5a10ebc35d1c5f7bff258.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-Apr-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
"apologizes"


[25-Apr-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
sure


[26-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Running an experiment


[26-Apr-20 12:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/QtgVxGkrX1Y?t=129

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Trump Suggests Injecting Disinfectant Into The Body To Treat Corona...
President Trump responded to a presentation by Bill Bryan from the Department of Homeland security on how to fight COVID-19 by suggesting that injecting the body with disinfectant could serve as treatment. In Bryan’s presentation, he explained isopropyl alcohol can kill the vi...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QtgVxGkrX1Y/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In this clip is donald trump genuine or sarcastic or something else?


[26-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's 100% genuine


[26-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tally as of right now: 7 for genuine 0 for sarcastic and 1 for confused


[26-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A day later, after the white house clarified that he was just floating ideas for the doctors in the room, after all the world except FOX NEWS and his base laughed their asses off at him, he went "NAH, WAS JUST A PRANK BRO"


[26-Apr-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But he was 100% serious


[26-Apr-20 12:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ty teaspoon


[26-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In fact, right now he's backtracked on the prank part


[26-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Since there are videos of Dr Birx trying hard to ignore Trump while he asks her those stupid question


[26-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's gone back to saying he was genuine but wasn't asking her, but someone off screen


[26-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, in the video, he explicitly calls out Dr Birx


[26-Apr-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/494612-mcconnell-state-bankruptcy-remarks-raise-constitutional-questions

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McConnell state bankruptcy remarks raise constitutional questions
Municipal finance experts say that it may be unconstitutional for Congress to allow states to declare bankruptcy, and that even if it is constitutional, it would be a bad idea.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_032520upi_lead.jpg


[26-Apr-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon Fox was laughing too


[26-Apr-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the only network that he will answer questions from now is OANN


[26-Apr-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
because they just give him a big wet sloppy blowjob every time


[26-Apr-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, it;s analingus. OANN has moved so far past blowjob that they've just sewed their lips to his anus


[26-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
OANN? Onion alpha news network?


[26-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman The leader of an organization that promotes drinking industrial bleach as a cure for illnesses of all sorts wrote Trump a letter not long before that.


[26-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are literally in a world where the president is all but using the exact words of "drink bleach".


[26-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
How can our memes compete with the insanity of reality?


[26-Apr-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one america news network


[26-Apr-20 12:49 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I have no clue man


[26-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But ill put that down as genuine? @Nebbie


[26-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president was talking about putting UV lights and bleach inside people.


[26-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
On live TV.


[26-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oky doky


[26-Apr-20 12:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
8 for genuine 0 for sarcastic 1 for confused and 3 for he just talks sans filter


[26-Apr-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement these guys are the oens who sent him the letter

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Miracle Mineral Supplement
Miracle Mineral Supplement, often referred to as Miracle Mineral Solution, Master Mineral Solution, MMS or the CD protocol, is chlorine dioxide, an industrial bleach. It is made by mixing sodium chlorite solution with an acid (such as the juices of citrus fruits). This mixture...


[26-Apr-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the genesis 2 church of health and healing


[26-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman keep in mind https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/703391450200539186/yoE.png

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[26-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't misspeaking, or joking, or whatever.


[26-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's the real deal.


[26-Apr-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's that dumb.


[26-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
At best, he's intentionally lying to support people who he owes a favor.


[26-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I know and personaly I think that way too


[26-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you remember the hair spray thing?


[26-Apr-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hair spray thing?


[26-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But after dinner I was talking with my uncle who brought up the "its a prank bro" defence


[26-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
'Give me a little spray. … You know you’re not allowed to use hairspray anymore because it affects the ozone, you know that, right? I said, you mean to tell me, cause you know hairspray’s not like it used to be, it used to be real good. … Today you put the hairspray on, it’s good for 12 minutes, right. … So if I take hairspray and I spray it in my apartment, which is all sealed, you’re telling me that affects the ozone layer? “Yes.” I say no way folks. No way. No way. That’s like a lot of the rules and regulations you people have in the mines, right, it’s the same kind of stuff.' - Donald Trump, 2016-05-05


[26-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I started this poll to see if I was crazy and missed the scarcastic stuff or he was just wrong


[26-Apr-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right that thing


[26-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was saying that regulations against chlorofluorocarbons are BS because hairspray done in his apartment doesn't reach the atmosphere because it's "sealed".


[26-Apr-20 12:56 AM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587507922318131200/703731513082249236/image0.jpg

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[26-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He literally believes that indoor air never mixes without outdoor air.


[26-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He **doesn't understand elemantary school physics' gas diffusion**.


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
did he even graduate elementary school?


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went to a private school all the way.


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so he "graduated"


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of his teachers called him the dumbest student he'd ever had.


[26-Apr-20 12:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Is Kims sister as much as a Dicktator as he is?


[26-Apr-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shes the propoganda director of north korea


[26-Apr-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's also supposedly way stricter than un ever was


[26-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[26-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good thing to refer to whenever people think Trump has a 3rd grade understanding of the world.


[26-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
3rd grade is too smart for him.


[26-Apr-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has a pre-birth understanding of the world


[26-Apr-20 01:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Hair Spray is not like it used to be and that's good. who wants their hair to be a fire hazard?


[26-Apr-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump apparently


[26-Apr-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also hair spray manufacturers in general because it;s cheaper to produce?


[26-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chlorofluorocarbons are no longer cheaper.


[26-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why it's even more baffling that some company in China has recently been emitting them.


[26-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they're trying to be as cheap as possible **and they're still doing it wrong**.


[26-Apr-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/latino/494651-immigrants-raise-alarm-over-cruel-exclusion-from-coronavirus-medical-aid

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Immigrants raise alarm over 'cruel' exclusion from coronavirus medi...
Activists and immigrant advocates are sounding the alarm that tens of millions of immigrants are at risk of being left out of COVID-19 testing and treatment.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_aid_041620getty_immigrants_0.jpg


[26-Apr-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/q5YJvYj.mp4

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[26-Apr-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/va-health-chief-acknowledges-a-shortage-of-protective-gear-for-its-hospital-workers/2020/04/24/4c1bcd5e-84bf-11ea-ae26-989cfce1c7c7_story.html


[26-Apr-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Apr-20 01:40 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie was high school an optional thing for jobs in 1950s america?


[26-Apr-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[26-Apr-20 01:40 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[26-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could get paid $2 an hour for menial labor.


[26-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Double minimum wage.


[26-Apr-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage was seen only as a safety net for like, exploited migrant workers.


[26-Apr-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm imagine Jared Kushner sitting on a giant pile of masks and gowns and ventilators and other stuff angrily hissing at any subordinates that come too close to his hoard


[26-Apr-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just imagine him with a gollum voice


[26-Apr-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which just poulls together that mental image so very well


[26-Apr-20 01:48 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump has a degree too, he somehow got through college, though it is a Business degree so it's literally meaningless


[26-Apr-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his daddy paid his way


[26-Apr-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
standards were very low back then


[26-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
daddy "donated" to the school, so they gave his son a free pass


[26-Apr-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just like daddy "donated" to the doctor, and he gave his son an out from the vietnam war


[26-Apr-20 01:49 AM] Honahue#0656
he went to the same college as Elon Musk too


[26-Apr-20 01:50 AM] Honahue#0656
anyone with a degree from Wharton has to be a sleezy peice of shit


[26-Apr-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume it's like the college scandal but for tests inside college as well


[26-Apr-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump basically failed upwards through his younger years with daddy paying his way through


[26-Apr-20 01:50 AM] Cloudy#3004
its a bachelors in economics from Wharton


[26-Apr-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I'm just curious if they advertise that: "The US President graduated here!"


[26-Apr-20 01:51 AM] jlun2#8758
and hope no one asks which one


[26-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Honahue#0656
you know my school require at least calc 1 to do an econ degree I can't see how Trump did that


[26-Apr-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
money


[26-Apr-20 01:51 AM] jlun2#8758
pay the TA to mark the tests as A


[26-Apr-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"donate" to thew school and you can get anywhere you want


[26-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Cloudy#3004
you can do anything you want in life if you have money


[26-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Cloudy#3004
fact


[26-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah I guess, it's not like the degree matters it's all daddy's connections and nothing he learns will be useful in business anyway


[26-Apr-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing trump needed to learn was how to abuse the court system and how to manipulate people


[26-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Honahue#0656
the degree is justification for the job so it's a formality


[26-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Honahue#0656
nah they have lawyers for that


[26-Apr-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rest was money


[26-Apr-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also struck deals with mayors to buy up land of poor black neighborhoods to pave over for hotels and shit


[26-Apr-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
then all those hotels go bankrupt right


[26-Apr-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
somehow I misread as "then all those hotpockets go bankrupt"


[26-Apr-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
where is my mind going tonight...


[26-Apr-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
you should probably :sleep:


[26-Apr-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that's true


[26-Apr-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't slept in over a day


[26-Apr-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of them, yes


[26-Apr-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though in some cases he sued people for emminent domain so he could pave their house over for a parking lot because they lived right next door to his properties


[26-Apr-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) and let me guess. the mayors are still happy because they got paid, and there's less minorities in "their" land right


[26-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/7/10931176/donald-trump-eminent-domain

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Donald Trump really did try to take an elderly widow's house for a ...
The courts ultimately blocked Trump from taking the home, but other targets of eminent domain haven't been so lucky.
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[26-Apr-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, the deal was the mayor get;s rid of the "undesirables" via property zoning and penalties, and trump buys the land from them directly


[26-Apr-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is and was a dangerous combination of a monster and a moron


[26-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/white-house-adviser-got-special-deal-haircut-to-look-good-on-fox-news

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A member of the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force bragged Friday night about violating the “stay-at-home” rules that his public...
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[26-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told Fox News host Laura Ingraham Friday night that his friend got a barbershop to open, allowing him to get a haircut.
> Ingraham then teased Kudlow and said, "you are special you got a haircut, the rest of us are just, you know, we’re dealing with it."
> Barbershops in the Washington, DC, are are closed due to the public health emergency.
> "I don’t have much to work with but it looks much better because I wanted to look good on the Laura Ingraham show," Kudlow told Ingraham.
> Kudlow went on to say that he did not have a temperature going into the White House on Friday, and tested negative for coronavirus last week. Kudlow is director of the National Economic Council.


[26-Apr-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/494677-coronavirus-detected-on-air-pollution-particles-report

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Coronavirus detected on air pollution particles: report
Researchers in Italy have found that coronavirus was detected on particles of air pollution, the Guardian reported.
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[26-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
I just had a thought, maybe trump didn't actually know what a "disinfectant" was when he said people could inject it to cure coronavirus


[26-Apr-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
if someone was unfamiliar with the word, they would likely assume it means something along the lines of "something that removes infections"


[26-Apr-20 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
we have to keep in mind, trump seems like he was incredibly sheltered, he didn't even know how to close an umbrella


[26-Apr-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if that is the case then he really needs to start asking questions to his advisors and not punishing them if they give him something other than total agreement. or else more incidents like this will keep happening


[26-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The guy right before him was talking about bleach


[26-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Surely Trump knows what bleach is


[26-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though maybe his only experience with it is the bleached hair he likes on his bimbo hussies


[26-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, Trump was sent a letter from the guys that promote drinking bleach.


[26-Apr-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure he understood at the least that bleach is a disinfectant.


[26-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
that assumes he knows what bleach is as well


[26-Apr-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
if he doesn't know how to close an umbrella, and he says to inject "disinfectant" without seeming to understand what it is, he likely has no idea what bleach is


[26-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
the letter came after the remark though didn't it.


[26-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
and then he instantly pivoted to 'I was just joking'


[26-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
then something happened, and he decided he needs to make a stand


[26-Apr-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
so he said 'no, I was completely serious'


[26-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
not really caring what it was he was serious about.


[26-Apr-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the excuse douchebags use when they say soemthing stupid or dickish and everyone gives them grief about it


[26-Apr-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he realized no one was buying the sarcasm excuse so he pivoted


[26-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think he knows or cares if people buy it.


[26-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
besides, his base did.


[26-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
or at least they went with it.


[26-Apr-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
which is the same thing here


[26-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fox news actually didnt which i think is part of why he pivoted


[26-Apr-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing he cares about is if fox news and oann cover his ass, it;s a problem for him if one of them isnt playing ball


[26-Apr-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also realized that if he didnt pivot, he would keep getting asked about it non stop and at soem point he;s going to have to let the media ask questions again


[26-Apr-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast his aids did


[26-Apr-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his aids likely instructed him to pivot in all likelyhood


[26-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
that's a pretty shitty advice though.


[26-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent the letter came the day before.


[26-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
oh really now. Why did they get this idea I wonder.


[26-Apr-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the sarcasm thing was totally his full idea, after that his aids probably instructed him to walk it back or else shit was going to hit the fan


[26-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
but if so, this is likely what gave him the push to suggest it.


[26-Apr-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are the genesis 2 church also gave him a hefty donation


[26-Apr-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but that's rumors at this point


[26-Apr-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
well shiiiiiiit https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/25/north-korea-dictator-kim-jong-un-dead-dies-heart-surgery-reports/

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Kim Jong-un is reportedly about to kick the bucket, or already has.
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[26-Apr-20 02:58 AM] Opponent#3498
they're that rich they can bribe him?


[26-Apr-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
well, time to see how a female tyrannical dictator performs.


[26-Apr-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well knowing the jong family, harshly and without hesitation


[26-Apr-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and also with insanity


[26-Apr-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lots of insanity


[26-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
insanity is irrelevant when what you want to achive is within your means


[26-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The letter from the drink bleach guy came before the press briefing


[26-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled in that expert to talk about disinfectant because of the letter


[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
oof. That must've been traumatic.


[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
An excuse to present his latest "Trump saves America!" moment


[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
the better drink bleach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0OS9NpXajQ

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[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, there's video of her reaction.


[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After the hydroxichloroquine thing failed and he just stopped talking about it "no, haven't read that report, can't comment on it" three days in a row


[26-Apr-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/703745184093175861


[26-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Open in browser.


[26-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has sound.


[26-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The video showing Birx reaction is painful


[26-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Of Trump talking absolute BS)


[26-Apr-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-reportedly-discussing-replacing-hhs-secretary-azar-2020-4

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White House officials are reportedly discussing replacing the healt...
Trump has criticized Azar's handling of the coronavirus response, and Azar has reportedly complained that Trump did not take his warnings seriously.
https://i.insider.com/5ea4e355d553f80c135ebe33?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[26-Apr-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump makes a fool of himself so someone else gets fired in his place


[26-Apr-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truly a plot twist of the ages


[26-Apr-20 04:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-donor-largest-recipient-of-ppp-loans-plans-to-keep-money-2020-4

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Hotel conglomerate owned by a Trump mega-donor that scooped up the ...
Trump campaign donor who secured the single largest payout from the Paycheck Protection Program, Monty Bennett, said he doesn't plan to return money.
https://i.insider.com/5ea44a884bca6373350a43a4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[26-Apr-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A conglomerate controlled by Dallas billionaire Monty Bennett, whose hotel chain is the single largest recipient of funds from the small business bailout program, announced Saturday that it doesn't plan on returning the money to the government despite new rules from the Treasury department making clear that the loans were intended for smaller businesses.

"We plan to keep all funds received under the PPP, which were provided as a result of the application process and other specific requirements established for our industry by Congress," Bennett's company, Ashford Hospitality Trust, wrote in a statement posted to its website Saturday afternoon. "Rules established by the Small Business Administration require companies like ours to determine by May 7 whether we still qualify for the PPP funds. Any funds for which we are determined to be not qualified will be returned according to the requirements of the program."

Bennett, a prolific donor to President Donald Trump and Republicans, grabbed headlines after it was reported his hotel conglomerate, which owns 130 hotels across the country, had won at least than $58 million in emergency loans. Business Insider reported Thursday that Bennett had hired a pair of Trump fundraisers, Jeff Miller and Roy Bailey, to lobby the Treasury Department for the relief, and that he had recently donated $50,000 to Trump's fundraising committee.


[26-Apr-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
In total, Ashford Hospitality Trust and its affiliates have applied for $126 million from the Paycheck Protection Program, the statement said.

A national backlash built this week over revelations that large operations like Ashford, Shake Shack, and Ruth's Chris Steakhouse had secured the largest amounts from a fund originally created to save small businesses. Last week, Congress rushed through a new infusion of cash for the fund, which had been almost immediately depleted amid the economic earthquake caused by COVID-19.

In response to the outcry, the Treasury Department issued new rules Thursday mandating that any loan recipients certify in good faith that they had no other recourse than to seek the PPP funds. The guidance said "it is unlikely that a public company with substantial market value and access to capital markets" would meet that standard, and gave companies who received loans but didn't need them a deadline of May 7 to pay back the money.


[26-Apr-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> gave companies who received loans but didn't need them a deadline of May 7 to pay back the money
1. too late, they probably bought a yatcht
2. impossible to enforce given its GOP and they're bribable as hell


[26-Apr-20 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A spokesman for Bennett did not immediately return requests for comment Saturday.

The statement from Ashford is the company's first comment since the Business Insider reported on Bennett's political connections to the president. A spokesman for the Treasury Department did not immediately return a request for comment Saturday. A spokeswoman for the Small Business Administration did not immediately return a request for comment.


[26-Apr-20 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
take that paywall news!


[26-Apr-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But yeah, the treasury secretary is a coward and is basically putting up a front to make it look like they tried to do soemthing. nothing will be enforced, and nothing will be returned


[26-Apr-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Apr-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/yg267lZ

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“Reckless Yahoos Protest in Toronto”
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[26-Apr-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, the disease spread to canada


[26-Apr-20 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stuvid-20 has claimed yet more victims


[26-Apr-20 04:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fleedom!!!


[26-Apr-20 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/phunware-data-collection-trump-campaign-coronavirus-small-business-loans

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Phunware, a data firm for Trump campaign, got millions in coronavir...
Public company whose board chair is a former top JPMorgan Chase executive received nearly $3 million from the bank.
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[26-Apr-20 04:51 AM] jlun2#8758
maybe I'm jaded by looking at tech articles with billions of dollars mentioned all the time but why do those ppl do all this for "only" 3m


[26-Apr-20 04:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world freedom will have to do"
I don't understand this sentence...


[26-Apr-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea is that people who are trying to improve conditions in the world impose a government structure which could deny people/businesses rights in certain circumstances


[26-Apr-20 04:53 AM] byte[]#2610
and that this is necessarily tyranny


[26-Apr-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
also, it says that the person who wrote it acknowledges that a state of complete "freedom" is very unpleasant to live in


[26-Apr-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
Why do I get the feeling the probably googled some freedom phrase and wrote it without knowing what it meant


[26-Apr-20 04:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Does complete freedom mean like, I can have sex with lolis and shotas by bribing them with candy?


[26-Apr-20 04:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
@AlchemistLiang  from what I draw  from that statement is that a perfect world is a unattainable goal and to try to force something like a perfect world results in loss of freedom, liberty, and other virtues. thus the person is advocating their preference to live a life of their own choosing rather than one imposed on them by a overarching leader or party even if that freedom may bring danger or suffering due to risks.


[26-Apr-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang how about this. the people who claim complete freedom probably means yes to themselves only, no to everyone else


[26-Apr-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
ie. they do anything they want, but if you try to do the same , you're disgusting
that's how i interpret their "complete freedom" based on my experience with others


[26-Apr-20 05:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you may disagree with my interpretation or not but again that's what I draw from that statement


[26-Apr-20 05:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least your interpretation is better than Google translate's


[26-Apr-20 05:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Apr-20 05:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some taiwanese made this shit on Steam


[26-Apr-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I can't read any of that except "coronavirus attack"  and "steam" :sad:


[26-Apr-20 05:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"A virus that turns people into selfish zombies is spreading in the country, infected ones are escaping abroad."

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[26-Apr-20 05:06 AM] jlun2#8758
> selfish zombies
ah, so they became infected with neoliberal ideologies


[26-Apr-20 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I think that's a pretty reasonable interpretation


[26-Apr-20 05:06 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also a stupid statement


[26-Apr-20 05:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"To control the plague, you build a secret lab to fight against the virus by killing the zombies"


[26-Apr-20 05:07 AM] byte[]#2610
but that's not the subject, is it?


[26-Apr-20 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
The people who bitch about people wanting a fairer economic world under liberal capitalism are the same type to gain their freedoms from the exploitation of other people via wage labor. They are only wealthy enough to partake in free fun-loving Fridays because they pay out minimum wage to have a business that grows quarter to quarter.


[26-Apr-20 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their freedom thus is materially invested on depriving the same material freedoms from others.


[26-Apr-20 05:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
And so on up the line.


[26-Apr-20 05:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Due to corona, Hong Kong independence parades has disappeared for months


[26-Apr-20 05:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So Hong Kong just became the area that controls the virus best on the globe


[26-Apr-20 05:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Those stupid protesters in Florida and New York really should learn from Hongkongers


[26-Apr-20 05:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I've heard that Taiwan and S. Korea has done a good job handling the virus as well.


[26-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
maybe once this is all done we could study how each place responded and draw up plans for the future


[26-Apr-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're places that already had a culture of wearing masks to avoid disease spread


[26-Apr-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our official data says that Singapore did the best


[26-Apr-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Then South Korea


[26-Apr-20 05:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Taiwan Navy is infected as well... Only a few cases but it's strange


[26-Apr-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/b579c4S

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The dumbest fucking timeline
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[26-Apr-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Apr-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
today's weather is sunny with a 50% chance of alex jones


[26-Apr-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
how is bill gates related again?


[26-Apr-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
or just bashing him because 💰


[26-Apr-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a conservative theory is that bill gates created the virus for population control measures


[26-Apr-20 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also one of the idiotic theories being used as a companion to the 5g covid theory


[26-Apr-20 05:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Bill gates created the virus and is using 5G to spread it!"


[26-Apr-20 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you told these people that alex jones created the virus so he could blame bill gates for it, then they;d probably believe that too


[26-Apr-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) wanna try that lol


[26-Apr-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
"he's doing this to boost his podcasts!"


[26-Apr-20 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would love to see that rumor spread


[26-Apr-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Did you notice the timing on the virus? it popped uup right after alex jones lost his show!"


[26-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gates has spent the last decade+ using his fortune to erradicate malaria and other diseases, mostly in Africa


[26-Apr-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
some 5? years ago he did a TED talk where he laid out that a virus like the current one could be a global pandemic and governments had to act immediately to be prepared for it


[26-Apr-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Since that talk resurfaced, some of the more "colourful" conservatives have decided that since vaccines are evil and rich people that aren't right-wingers are clearly part of a global conspiracy, and Gates' talk was "suspiciously" on point, that he and his jew illuminati cohorts created the virus in order to spread a "vaccine" that governments would force people to take


[26-Apr-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With said vaccine, I dunno, making people gay, reducing fertility in white men, micro bio tracker, whatever


[26-Apr-20 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why does every conservative conspiracy theory read like a bad teen fanfic?


[26-Apr-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
@WiFiWitch


[26-Apr-20 06:00 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
>:(


[26-Apr-20 07:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494682-first-known-us-coronavirus-death-caused-by-massive-cardiac-event

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First known US coronavirus death caused by massive cardiac event
The earliest known death in the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/california_coronavirus_1204231102getty.jpg


[26-Apr-20 07:30 AM] byte[]#2610
And then this dictator turned himself into a vegetable. Pickle kim, he said. Funniest shit I've ever seen.

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[26-Apr-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
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please for the love of fuck tell me nobody has done this yet https://t.co/h4Iw78IWiD
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[26-Apr-20 09:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
2020 is getting worse


[26-Apr-20 09:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or maybe... Kim III dead is not that bad...


[26-Apr-20 09:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
~~pls let mr.P be next~~


[26-Apr-20 09:53 AM] Mani#1404
People are already 'stanning' Kim Yo Jong...wat.


[26-Apr-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people have been stanning her for years now


[26-Apr-20 02:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who is Kim yo jong?


[26-Apr-20 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kim jong un's sister She is an alternate member of the Politburo and vice director of the Propaganda and Agitation Department of the Workers' Party of Korea


[26-Apr-20 02:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[26-Apr-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at the moment she is one of the only heirs old enough to take the throne


[26-Apr-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, that the outside world knows of...


[26-Apr-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if kim jong un really is dead, then north korea will likely take a few weeks to settle the issue of power int he country before making any form of annoucnement to the outsidfe world


[26-Apr-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-intelligence-does-not-believe-kim-jong-un-is-dead-2020-4

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US and South Korean spies do not believe that Kim Jong Un is dead, ...
Rumors have been swirling about Kim's health since he missed events celebrating the birth of his grandfather, who founded the North Korean regime.
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[26-Apr-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point, we have no fucking clue if he's dead or just on hiatus


[26-Apr-20 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Schrodinger's Kim


[26-Apr-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-briefings-sabotaging-election-chances-aides-fear-2020-4

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[26-Apr-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump also seems to be cancelling the daily breifings because he made a tiny fucky wucky and is scared of the media bringing it up

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[26-Apr-20 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-Apr-20 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden's gonna lose.


[26-Apr-20 03:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's campaign will have a field day editing Reade's testimonies into attack ads. There's no way for progressives of any principles in the DNC to defend this.


[26-Apr-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's also going to streissand effect so hard on them


[26-Apr-20 03:27 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1254401260725383168?s=21

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Kim Jong-un’s sister on her way to claim the throne https://t.co/9VccRLkmlY
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[26-Apr-20 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/04/26/eager-early-risers-hit-the-beach-in-san-clemente-as-closure-lifts/

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‘You would think it was summer’: Heat wave brings crowds to Souther...
San Clemente’s city beaches reopened on Saturday, and it remains to be seen if they and other beaches can stay that way.
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[26-Apr-20 04:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mass suicide :shrugpony:


[26-Apr-20 04:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Daily new cases in Sundays are always fewer than usual


[26-Apr-20 04:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Apr-20 04:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's a strange regularity


[26-Apr-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sued-over-denying-stimulus-to-citizens-who-marry-immigrants-2020-4

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[26-Apr-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494707-new-jersey-governor-several-weeks-away-from-phase-on-reopening

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New Jersey governor: 'Several weeks away' from phase one reopening
New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy (D) said Sunday his state is still weeks away from entering the first phase of gradually reopening its economy amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[26-Apr-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494700-birx-it-bothers-me-trump-comments-on-injecting-disinfectant-still-in

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Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, said Sunday that news coverage of President Trump's comments about light, heat and disinfectants as potential treatments for the coronavirus is&nb
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[26-Apr-20 06:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/tara-reade-biden-video-207670

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New evidence surfaces in Tara Reade allegation against Biden
A 1993 video appears to show her mother calling the Larry King Show to discuss “problems” while working for “a prominent senator.”
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[26-Apr-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst thing cnn did in that case was to take down the videos, which is sure to streissand effect that shit hard


[26-Apr-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/hospital-closures-west-virginia-ohio.html

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A for-profit company bought three struggling hospitals in West Virginia and Ohio. Doctors were fired, supplies ran low and many in need of care had to journey elsewhere. Then the doors shut for good.
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[26-Apr-20 08:24 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1254475682723307520

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The people that know me and know the history of our Country say that I am  the hardest working President in history. I don’t know about that, but I am a hard worker and have probably gotten more done in the first 3 1/2 years than any President in history. The Fake News hates ...
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[26-Apr-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141

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[26-Apr-20 08:29 PM] ononim#8141
TIL Russian Emerges build this in Manchuria in interwar period


[26-Apr-20 08:30 PM] ononim#8141
The text read "Russian Club"


[26-Apr-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Make it spin, could use it for wind power


[26-Apr-20 08:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1254477490678104064?s=20

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I work from early in the morning until late at night, haven’t left the White House in many months (except to launch Hospital Ship Comfort) in order to take care of Trade Deals, Military Rebuilding etc., and then I read a phony story in the failing @nytimes about my work....
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[26-Apr-20 08:36 PM] illumnious#7938
oh really?


[26-Apr-20 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938
you're bitching eh?


[26-Apr-20 08:37 PM] illumnious#7938
bitching


[26-Apr-20 08:38 PM] illumnious#7938
the fuckery thread https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1254479607627231232

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When will all of the “reporters” who have received Noble Prizes for their work on Russia, Russia, Russia, only to have been proven totally wrong (and, in fact, it was the other side who committed the crimes), be turning back their cherished “Nobles” so that they can be given....
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[26-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He just plays golf every single day


[26-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Twitter should suspend his account tbh


[26-Apr-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, better, leave Trump with no internet connection and no interviews for at least a month, and force him to actually work.


[26-Apr-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
See how long he'd sustain himself.


[26-Apr-20 08:40 PM] illumnious#7938
> Twitter should suspend his account tbh
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 for real tho


[26-Apr-20 08:40 PM] illumnious#7938
along with his instagram accounts and Facebook page


[26-Apr-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
> and, in fact, it was the other side who committed the crimes

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[26-Apr-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
so is this an admission of guilt?


[26-Apr-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No i think he's blaming the Democrats for collusion or something


[26-Apr-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
moron


[26-Apr-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's political worldview feels like a bad LSD trip sometimes


[26-Apr-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently this is what happens to your brain after you consume a diet comprising only Murican hamburger


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
mcdonalds*


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hamurica


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
he literally only eats mcdonalds


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
because he's paranoid of being poisoned


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol what


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also while we;re at it, let;s cut off his cable subscription


[26-Apr-20 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
what he doesn't realize is that mcdonalds is poisoning him


[26-Apr-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesnt have anyone check his water for contaminates


[26-Apr-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
when will he become kim'd


[26-Apr-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather he become elvis'd


[26-Apr-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
heart attack on the toilet with a mcburger in his hand


[26-Apr-20 08:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1039986715417399296

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the future of eastern europe is a bunch of countries with functionally the same ruling ideology as russia all joining NATO against them because they centered their entire national identity around an anti-soviet partisan from 1942 named like “vyacheslav the jewslayer
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[26-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Truth


[26-Apr-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also lol CNN deleted the video of Reades mom calling into Larry King


[26-Apr-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk 
> vyacheslav the jewslayer
what is this??


[26-Apr-20 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
A joke


[26-Apr-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21

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(((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg)
https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/1254471269136957440?s=21
CNN put this story and the video on their front page on Saturday, the day they published. The worst cover-up in media history--or perhaps just another partisan bias confirming conspiracy theory that was too good for Twitter to check. https://t.co/QKVQ4PvcV7
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[26-Apr-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it was on CNN's site front page "prominent story" thing for at least a day, and was covered by a few of their shows showing the clip


[26-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[26-Apr-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly, people are mad about this but


[26-Apr-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden's like "Phew, easily hand waved sex scandal from 30 years ago vs. alleged corruption while VP, thanks for focusing on the sex stuff media"


[26-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also why does FOX have such a hardon for CNN


[26-Apr-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every day they have at least two articles on their site bitching about CNN and/or one of their anchors or reporters


[26-Apr-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There could be a nuclear bomb going off in Paris and their top story would still be "Chris Cuomo once said a swear word"


[26-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Midknight#9798
That's what happens when your job is propaganda. You don't just propagandize events, you propagandize against sources of accurate accounts of events


[26-Apr-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because cnn is low hanging fruit


[26-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Midknight#9798
cnn makes it easier by not always being all that accurate these days, too


[26-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Midknight#9798
still far more than a certain not-actually-news-network I could name


[26-Apr-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-forcing-1000-west-point-cadets-return-campus-for-speech-2020-4

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Trump's commencement speech is requiring 1,000 West Point cadets re...
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[26-Apr-20 09:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80MI4EgE-4g

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The Ring of Fire
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Republican Representative Matt Gaetz says that Florida has done an exceptional job with regard to the pandemic, and that the state's "light touch" approach should be used by others. Gaetz apparently hasn't seen the numbers coming out of his own state, because the number of pos...
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[26-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Midknight#9798
"Fuck you troops. You signed up to serve, so you's gonna do what I says and show up to make me look good"


[26-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/PTSDGuts2/status/1254311751514034176?s=19

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[26-Apr-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/irs-10000-workers-to-office-to-bring-own-mask-2020-4

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The IRS is telling 10,000 'mission-critical' employees to bring the...
The Friday memo was published by two Democratic lawmakers who blasted the IRS' decision to tell employees to bring their own PPE.
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[26-Apr-20 10:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think if there's anything to be taken from CNN removing the clip and streisand-effect-ing themselves, and extrapolating that to any sort of "this is exactly why democrats X" right-wing conclusion


[26-Apr-20 10:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's that *if* there was outside pressure, it was almost certainly from the DNC, not Biden himself - because I believe the connection between the DNC and CNN is stronger, and because I believe current DNC leadership is dumb enough to try to play damage control with that clip and not consider that they just made things infinitely worse


[26-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They already reported on it though


[26-Apr-20 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they being CNN, yes


[26-Apr-20 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
CNN isn't anywhere near as think tank driven as FOX is, but they're hardly free of bias and have been known to report on things that aren't fully researched and shoot themselves in the foot to some degree


[26-Apr-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
was streisand effect not a thing back then?


[26-Apr-20 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the term dates to 2003


[26-Apr-20 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and "back then" doesn't matter because we're talking about things that happened in the last couple days


[26-Apr-20 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do think there are some comparisons that can be drawn between this and the hillary email scandal - old skeleton in the closet that was unremarkable at the time it happened is unearthed and turned into a campaign-damaging piece at a time when they're the only candidate left, through a combination of mismanagement, intentional string-pulling, and being in the spotlight


[26-Apr-20 10:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the other thing, too - my state hasn't even *held* its primary election yet and both parties are down to a single viable candidate


[26-Apr-20 10:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's coming up wednesday, in the middle of a statewide quarantine


[26-Apr-20 10:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or at least it was, it's been moved to june 2


[26-Apr-20 10:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's unbelievable. They took Bernie, an appealing figure with a squeaky clean record and who was able to make a Fox News sinclair audience agree with his policy proposals, and replaced him with an old rapist.


[26-Apr-20 10:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can see all the processes that led to Hillary's defeat in 2016 unfolding again, this time perhaps even worse.


[26-Apr-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't even trust the polls anymore.


[26-Apr-20 10:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, one way or the other, I'll take the guy who lacked personal space and is too addled to do anything over the guy who's costing thousands of American lives and is actively eroding our government on a daily basis while his cronies profit from it all


[26-Apr-20 10:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the opposite of "does the most good" is not "does the least harm," it's "does the most harm"


[26-Apr-20 10:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and despite what Trump's supporters would have you believe, there's no "both sides" comparison on corruption. Even if I *knew* that Biden would kick the bucket 15 minutes after being sworn in, I would vote for him just because of the people around him. Trump's cabinet is metastasized cancer


[26-Apr-20 10:32 PM] Midknight#9798
that's an insult to the competence of the typical cancer


[26-Apr-20 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, it seems to have rather completely spread to the entire GOP with the exception of one single man


[26-Apr-20 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
who, despite being utterly contemptible and the former *face* of the Republican party, has so distanced himself from the party line on ethical grounds that he's practically been excommunicated


[26-Apr-20 10:37 PM] Midknight#9798
i wouldn't call mitt romney utterly contemptible. he never took a single position without flip flopping to really know where he stands


[26-Apr-20 10:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's not the one to blame. It's the GOP.


[26-Apr-20 10:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The entire GOP, which Biden has appealed to historically on numerous occasions.


[26-Apr-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are no roosevelt republicans - we'd call that thinking today "social democracy" and find it exemplified in Bernie Sanders. There really aren't any that act like Reganomics is all that. The entire GOP think tank hivemind has given over to tea party "alt-right" motivations and it's indistinguishable from how the right wing acts in Washington unless they're cornered on camera


[26-Apr-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Conservatism is dead unless you look at the neoliberals in the Democratic establishment


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's who Biden's trying to appeal to


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You mean, classical conservatism?


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, that's what I mean


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, these types are dead. GOP's going full throttle towards nazi now.


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] Midknight#9798
regressivism is in vogue right now though


[26-Apr-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
regressivism and conservatism are by definition opposing ideologies


[26-Apr-20 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What do you mean by "regressivism"?


[26-Apr-20 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, there's a bit of "we should go back this isn't working" to conservatism, but regressivism is literally just opposition to any and all progressive thinking


[26-Apr-20 10:41 PM] Midknight#9798
progressivism seeks improvement through change
conservatism seeks to resist and slow change out of fear that not all change is good
regressivism seeks to reverse change and go back to some "good ol' days" standard that never actually existed but they think did


[26-Apr-20 10:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's fascism you're talking about imo


[26-Apr-20 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know, but no one likes to be called a fascist


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if you use the word in an argument, no one will listen to you even if you agree


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Midknight#9798
it may be fascist in implementation, but it may not be as well


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reactionary socialism, then.


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's nothing socialist about it


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the problem is... somewhat, the nazi party and the GOP aren't entirely comparable


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[26-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Midknight#9798
either way, going backwards and reverting all the definitely good changes we've made is a nonstarter


[26-Apr-20 10:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whereas the nazis peddled "racial camaraderie" and "prussian socialism", the GOP just has this penchant for hatred and prejudice yet also doesn't try to reach out to the poor or the proletariat


[26-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Midknight#9798
"trickle down" is their idea of reaching out


[26-Apr-20 10:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The conclusion i got is that this is because their support group is selective and sycophantic, yet overbearingly powerful because of undemocratic measures like gerrymandering


[26-Apr-20 10:44 PM] Midknight#9798
I hear that and translate as "we'll pee on you when you're on fire! ^_^ uwu"


[26-Apr-20 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USA is not a democracy, and they're technically right on that.


[26-Apr-20 10:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's only a semblance of democracy, hampered by various authoritarian institutions such as the Supreme Court


[26-Apr-20 10:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why does the US even have a Supree Court if their constitution is so short, vague and easy to read?


[26-Apr-20 10:48 PM] Midknight#9798
because someone has to have the final say when that vagueness sparks disagreement about what it means, and that same constitution mandates that the supreme court have that final say


[26-Apr-20 10:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SCOTUS is literally just inventing rules at certain points tho


[26-Apr-20 10:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It doesn't help that their power is unchecked and that their terms are for life


[26-Apr-20 10:49 PM] Midknight#9798
they have yes, and that is *supposed* to be addressed by the other branches of government saying "hol' up, we've got a way to say different here"


[26-Apr-20 10:49 PM] Midknight#9798
their power is not unchecked


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How so? Given past developments, or at least my understanding of them, it does seem like they've got unrestricted power to rig the system...


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
founders did not expect congress to gridlock itself so easily


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
also expected a regular amendment process


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the amendment process is how you tell SCOTUS to fuck off


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] Midknight#9798
it's just the check is difficult to wield when partisan fighting has the rest of the government locked up so badly it couldn't agree on what to have for lunch, much less pass legislation or amendments


[26-Apr-20 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[26-Apr-20 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the two party system at work


[26-Apr-20 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And all its enabling structure, media included


[26-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Midknight#9798
and that's why the founding fathers' naive assumption that because they didn't like parties, they wouldn't form, and their resultant belief they didn't need to calculate how to have multiple healthy parties into their little experimental matrix was a key error


[26-Apr-20 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[26-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Midknight#9798
but that's why there's an amendment process: to fix errors


[26-Apr-20 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The big men just began improvising as time went on


[26-Apr-20 10:53 PM] Midknight#9798
but to use that process you need to get some consensus that there's a problem and that fixing it is good. and fixing it is not good for entrenched power structures 😄


[26-Apr-20 10:54 PM] Midknight#9798
and the electorate has gotten so distracted by the bogeymen of guns, abortion, taxes, and entitlements, that those entrenched power structures have lots of levers to pull to rock the boat whatever way they want at the moment


[26-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Midknight#9798
America's a mess ^_^


[26-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mom was telling me that when she went to the grocery store recently she saw a woman walk up to two people (a father and son not wearing masks) and say "Fuck both of you, and fuck you as a father for setting a bad example for your son"


[26-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Midknight#9798
yeah that's not helping either.


[26-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it does


[26-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bully into compliance


[26-Apr-20 10:56 PM] Midknight#9798
just another bogeyman to get people panicking about


[26-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Midknight#9798
there's a reason these cloth masks aren't used in the medical field. if they have any effect, it's not huge. keeping one's distance and *staying home when you don't need to be out acquiring food or something* are far more important. the whole "oh i have a sock over my face so i'm safe" just breeds complacency


[26-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Midknight#9798
not saying i won't/don't use one. but freaking out over it isn't helping; focus on what does work


[26-Apr-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
motorcycles aren't safe, but you can bet I'm gonna think far less of the punk kid who rides without a helmet (or worse, one who's happy that the helmet law got repealed) than I am of the one who always puts a proper DOT-approved helmet on


[26-Apr-20 11:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
besides, the point of the cloth masks in public isn't to protect *yourself* necessarily, it's to lower transmission if you have it without knowing. But yes, even a mask that's only 50% effective is lowering your viral load


[26-Apr-20 11:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a reason cloth masks existed and are commonly worn in Japan, China, and other countries before this pandemic started - in dense populations, they *work*


[26-Apr-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Apr-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Apr-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[27-Apr-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not a sentiment I want to agree with but ultimately they're right


[27-Apr-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
minus the gunpoint bit, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that's not the high score in the race, either


[27-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be nice if the DNC allowed a candidate to win who wasn't marred on that stuff, but fundamentally they are conservative by default.


[27-Apr-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, so long as it doesn't create a PR problem, they'd prefer the candidate be one who "teaches women their place" etc.


[27-Apr-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-idiot-alchemist-says-sun-bleach-will-save-us

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Idiot Alchemist Donald Trump Says Sun and Bleach Will Save You
Never forget that the man spouting a stream of absurd bullshit is the president of the United F*cking States.
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[27-Apr-20 01:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494745-trump-blasts-fox-news-says-he-wants-an-alternative

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Trump blasts Fox News, says he wants 'an alternative'
President Trump lashed out at Fox News on Sunday, targeting several figures at the network in a series of tweets claiming that the network was "being fed Democrat talking points."
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[27-Apr-20 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494744-poison-control-centers-report-increase-in-calls-pertaining-to-exposure-to

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Calls to poison control centers spike after Trump disinfectant comm...
Poison control centers in a number of states have reported a rise in calls about exposure to household cleaners since President Trump made remarks suggesting that disinfectants should be looked into as a possible treatment for the coronavirus.
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[27-Apr-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610

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[27-Apr-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
he deleted these tweets https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1254479607627231232.html

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Thread by @realDonaldTrump: When will all of the “reporters” who ha...
Thread by @realDonaldTrump: When will all of the “reporters” who have received Noble Prizes for their work on Russia, Russia, Russia, only toven totally wrong (and, in fact, it was the other side who committed the crimes), be turning back their cherished…
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[27-Apr-20 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[27-Apr-20 01:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>idiot alchemist


[27-Apr-20 01:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck you

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[27-Apr-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[27-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494748-trump-on-noble-prize-tweets-does-sarcasm-ever-work

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Trump on 'Noble' Prize tweets: 'Does sarcasm ever work?'
President Trump on Sunday responded after multiple tweets in which he railed against the Nobel Prize — repeatedly spelling it as the "Noble Prize" — drew mockery online, asking, “Does sarcasm ever work?”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_042420upi_lead.jpg


[27-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember that episode of Foster's Home where Bloo learns what sarcasm is?


[27-Apr-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Watching the "UV light and bleach" clip again


[27-Apr-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it doesn't seem like there's a hint of sarcasm in Don's facial expressions or body language


[27-Apr-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or voice tone


[27-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Lawsuits should be brought against all, including the Fake News Organizations, to rectify this terrible injustice."


[27-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Midknight#9798
Don Don doesn't understand what sarcasm is. Someone just told him he should try to use it as an excuse when he says stuff he needs to walk back.


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this really his new play


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every time he fucks up he just says "just sarcasm!" when called out


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a pathetic man


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
one of the plays


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there are multiple plays


[27-Apr-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
all happening at once


[27-Apr-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which for a rational person should cripple your defense but for his cult, it gives them *options*


[27-Apr-20 02:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What if it's sarcasm that he said it's sarcasm


[27-Apr-20 02:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Negative × negative = positive


[27-Apr-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon it's literally the oldest play ever


[27-Apr-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"haha it's just a prank bro"


[27-Apr-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"I was only pretending to be retarded xd"


[27-Apr-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
He's retreating from the briefings today because he's going to gaslight us with something even more insane tomorrow


[27-Apr-20 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Am guessing tomorrow's will be like Friday's, quick boast about something, then Pence spends 10 minutes preforming verbal fellatio to Trump, and done, no questions


[27-Apr-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If there are questions, he'll be damn too hostile and his handlers know it


[27-Apr-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-kim-jong-un-dead-injured-comatose-convalescing-down-with-covid-19-or-just-fucking-with-us?

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Is Kim Jong Un Dead, Injured, Comatose, Convalescing, Down with COV...
It's been more than two weeks since North Korea's leader was seen in public. He has missed major events, and questions about his health are growing. But this is not the first time.
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[27-Apr-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Is Kim Jong Un Dead, Injured, Comatose, Convalescing, Down with COVID-19, or Just F**king With Us?


[27-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Midknight#9798
He's in Equestria being blasted with a rainbow laser.


[27-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Midknight#9798
He'll be back next Tuesday with cupcakes for everyone


[27-Apr-20 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not clear how frequently Trump will be holding his briefings anymore


[27-Apr-20 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we'll see how long his temper tantrum lasts


[27-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Midknight#9798
Until he can't take not getting attention anymore


[27-Apr-20 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, he craves attention but he hates people making him look bad to his face


[27-Apr-20 02:42 AM] Midknight#9798
that's why he's a man baby


[27-Apr-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s why he wants to force the economy open so he can go back to rallies instead of breifings


[27-Apr-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and golf


[27-Apr-20 02:52 AM] Midknight#9798
Let him rally. Let his supporters rally. They're gonna spread it no matter what, so they may as well spread it to eachother


[27-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the no rallies thing is more for his protection than their protection


[27-Apr-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i agree, let him host rallies and have the virus sort it out


[27-Apr-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that's going to fuck over hospitals even more


[27-Apr-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shou;ld come with a contract then that forbids anyone who attends the rallies from seeking medical aid if they get the virus


[27-Apr-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
That's not sufficient


[27-Apr-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Because they'll infect their not-necessarily-Trump-voting families


[27-Apr-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[27-Apr-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:ponkthonk:


[27-Apr-20 03:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well let's not be so partisan.
if it was a President Obama or a President Sander's rally would you still be advocating denying them care just because they risked themselves going to a rally?


[27-Apr-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
The problem with even letting people who are dumb enough to drink bleach actually do that is that they are likely going to wind up at the hospital


[27-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
stupid people do stupid things. that's the nature of how things are.


[27-Apr-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Obama or sanders wouldnt be hosting a rally in the middle of a pandemic


[27-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would be telling people to stay the fuck home


[27-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well neither is trump


[27-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is only not hosting rallies because his aides wont let him


[27-Apr-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump was hosting rallies well into the pandemic until his staff was like "This is too dangerous for you sir"


[27-Apr-20 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the point is. if they were, just as if trump was. then let's not deny them care just because of who they went out to see.

no matter who's in charge. going to see the president is a honor and a experiance.


[27-Apr-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is the overwhelming the hospitals part


[27-Apr-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these would be people who went out fo their way to endanger others to go to a rally knowing full well they might get a dangerous virus and tghen get hospitalized despite ebing told to stay home and not do such things


[27-Apr-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hero worship or not, negligent endangerment is still a major problem


[27-Apr-20 03:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then that was their choice and risk they made.


[27-Apr-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it stops beign their risk when thye brign it home to other people


[27-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Midknight#9798
that's why you send in the national guard and turn the rally site into a quarantine camp


[27-Apr-20 03:14 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then in that case we should not deny them care and treatment then.


[27-Apr-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then we should send thme to prison for endangering the lives of others?


[27-Apr-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
force thme to make the ppe they jsut made hospitals waste on their dumbasses


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Midknight#9798
ooh i like that last one


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and spread it to prisons?


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s already spread to prisons


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Midknight#9798
prisons already got it


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and so do hospitals


[27-Apr-20 03:16 AM] Midknight#9798
if you're in prison now, you're doomed to get covid


[27-Apr-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we should allow thme to to clog up hsopitals and endanger th elives of thousands of people, because thyw qanted to watch a lunatic on stage because hero worship?


[27-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```if it was a President Obama or a President Sander's rally would you still be advocating denying them care just because they risked themselves going to a rally?```


[27-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Midknight#9798
hospitals are at least a little better designed for internal separation of infectious populations


[27-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
this is actually very easy.


[27-Apr-20 03:17 AM] Opponent#3498
there wouldn't _be_ a rally.


[27-Apr-20 03:18 AM] Midknight#9798
silly goppy, 21st century progressives can hold virtual rallies in cyberspace. bonus points if it works with a vr headset


[27-Apr-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
virtual rallies are a decent solution actually


[27-Apr-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
picking a venue would be a challenge but styaing at home and attending a vitual event would save countless lives and still give thme their hero worship thrill


[27-Apr-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted Trump shouldnt be rallying regardless, he has a fucking job to do


[27-Apr-20 03:20 AM] Midknight#9798
trumpers would have to stop sniffing their truck nuts for diesel exhaust residue long enough to figure out how to computer to do that though 😛


[27-Apr-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[27-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Sunnyside#3103
> granted Trump shouldnt be rallying regardless, he has a fucking job to do
@prism stryder(intexda) 
and he has... why else has he been in the white house doing daily press conferances and briefings and setting up task forces.

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[27-Apr-20 03:21 AM] Midknight#9798
it's cute that you think that


[27-Apr-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he hasnt done shit, he;s only held the breifings


[27-Apr-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and signed useless executive orders that do nothing bhut get int he way of efforts to deal with the pandemic


[27-Apr-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his border closing order just redistributed the virus hot spots


[27-Apr-20 03:22 AM] Midknight#9798
Because the first thing folks in other countries thought when they heard how badly managed covid was in the usa was "Ooh! I wanna move there! time to get a green card!"


[27-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Midknight#9798
note how his little ban doesn't affect migrant workers to pick crops or mow his golf course or clean his hotel rooms


[27-Apr-20 03:23 AM] Midknight#9798
those are still allowed 🙂


[27-Apr-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he fired a guy so he could replace an oversightr comittee member with a yesman so he'd have control of the oversight comittee


[27-Apr-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is how he got permission to put his name on all the checks


[27-Apr-20 03:24 AM] Midknight#9798
and so that 2 trillion dollar slush fund is already paying out to trump companies and supporters


[27-Apr-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he donated part of that to a hotel conglomerate with zero employees, and claimed "these people make ppe"


[27-Apr-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which no they don't because they dont have any employees


[27-Apr-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he threatened the us postal system because he on air boasted thAT IF he let mail in votes happen, republicans would be fucked


[27-Apr-20 03:26 AM] Midknight#9798
how much ya wanna bet that conglomerate also makes a nice campaign contribution? 🙂


[27-Apr-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh it totally did


[27-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Midknight#9798
the swampy swamp is swamping harder than a swamp ever swamped.


[27-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Midknight#9798
"Drain it? Suuure! Just so I can fill it with Trump Brand™️ Extra Swampy Swamp Muck!"


[27-Apr-20 03:27 AM] Midknight#9798
(at a significantly marked up price for the discerning taxpayer!)


[27-Apr-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of his press breifings was dedicated to a campaign trailer for his 2020 campaign with a bunch of cut footage of democrats sucking his dick


[27-Apr-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after which he went on a mad tirade agaisnt the press sayign they should all be shut down and might be in the future


[27-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Midknight#9798
mister absolute and total authority isn't bad for freedom at all, nope, no sir-ree gosh golly!


[27-Apr-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then when he walked it back and let the governors have their dsay, he decided to let his followers do the talking for him with protests


[27-Apr-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
protests that are now spiking the case numbers higher and clogging up hospitals


[27-Apr-20 03:37 AM] Midknight#9798
oh, but surely he wouldn't be dumb enough to encourage *that* kind of thing!


[27-Apr-20 03:38 AM] Midknight#9798
:tiawink:


[27-Apr-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
ooh, that's a pretty emoji


[27-Apr-20 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
where's it from?


[27-Apr-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this server


[27-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
...so it is.


[27-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
well, now I know.


[27-Apr-20 03:44 AM] Midknight#9798
haha


[27-Apr-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-deletes-tweet-calling-for-journalists-to-return-noble-prizes-2020-4

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Trump calls for journalists who covered the Russia investigation to...
Trump misspelled Nobel, but the Nobel Prize is not awarded for journalism. He could have been thinking of the Pulitzer Prize.
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[27-Apr-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, totally doing his job


[27-Apr-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
totally


[27-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said it was sarcasm


[27-Apr-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At best it was wordplay


[27-Apr-20 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
S A R C A S M (tm)


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The question I have is


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I was trolling the media to see what they'd do!


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GW Bush was at least as unintelligent as Trump


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he never did any of this


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wasnt malicious


[27-Apr-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was it just because he was aware of how stupid he was?


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Midknight#9798
I actually don't think GW was anywhere near this stupid


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
george bush was dumb but he wasnt dangerously narssistic, and sociopathic


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Midknight#9798
I miss GW


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess yeah, it takes some intelligence to go "Wait, I sound stupid"


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
george bush also never really wanted to be president, he did so to make his father proud of him


[27-Apr-20 03:53 AM] Midknight#9798
He was fun to make fun of, but I didn't really have to worry about him starting Armageddon because his fee-fees got hurt


[27-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bush family always, always wanted Jeb! as president


[27-Apr-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GW wanted to like, own baseball teams


[27-Apr-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
george bush also had a sense of humor about himself and took jokes well


[27-Apr-20 03:55 AM] Midknight#9798
And he did treat other people like human beings


[27-Apr-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump meanwhile goes on rage benders whenever someone even makes a slight joke about him


[27-Apr-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the awful stuff that happened under bush was partly on dick cheney


[27-Apr-20 03:56 AM] Midknight#9798
of course, nowadays he'd be accused of being a liberal spai 😄


[27-Apr-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
since he retired, he;s started painting as a hobby and gifts soldier portraits to families of soldiers


[27-Apr-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
It's just a prank bro


[27-Apr-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd rather have stupidity with a human side, than trump's brand of inhumane stupidity with a callous disregard for america as a whole


[27-Apr-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again i'd also rather not have stupidity at all


[27-Apr-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He treats people who didn't vote for him as you would a business partner who fucked you over


[27-Apr-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he treats whole states that way


[27-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Midknight#9798
"What has America paid me lately? And don't say salary, because I "donated" that to mumblemumble yeah I donated that so hard they said they'd never got a donation like it!"


[27-Apr-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Midknight#9798
Yes, Georgie


[27-Apr-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:depressed:


[27-Apr-20 04:00 AM] Midknight#9798
Unexpected but undeniable


[27-Apr-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Bush was the stupidity with a human side


[27-Apr-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, and now it;s gone

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[27-Apr-20 04:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Why would I miss the Butcher of Bahgdad, Bringer of Crashes?


[27-Apr-20 04:18 AM] Midknight#9798
It's naked mole apes all the way down now


[27-Apr-20 04:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/f249bde40d0c676ba5330e4373ba207c

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[27-Apr-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Apr-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
what


[27-Apr-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is he asking if sarcasm gets people the nobel peace prize?


[27-Apr-20 04:34 AM] Midknight#9798
he's unable to admit to having made a spelling mistake


[27-Apr-20 04:34 AM] Midknight#9798
how not cute.


[27-Apr-20 04:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well if you guys seriously miss the bush's then write in Jeb this election. it might be better than biden at this point.


[27-Apr-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> Rolling Stone reported last year that he even asked Japanese Prime Minster Shinzo Abe to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize for his negotiations with North Korea — negotiations that are now stalled over North Korea's refusal to de-nuclearlize.
well, Kim may be dead now during his presidency, with no fault of his own. He's probably gonna use this as a campaign point


[27-Apr-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we miss bush in a hindsight sort of way, do we want him back? hell no


[27-Apr-20 04:36 AM] Midknight#9798
And Jeb is a whole different kettle of fish


[27-Apr-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also jeb is nothing like george bush


[27-Apr-20 04:36 AM] Midknight#9798
Jeb is the original Florida Man


[27-Apr-20 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i will take biden over trump anyday, will i complain about it? sure, but i dont have much other options at the moment


[27-Apr-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*Jeb!


[27-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Presidents are basically irrelevant in comparison to their appointments


[27-Apr-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kavanaugh will be on the Supreme Court until what, the 2060s?


[27-Apr-20 04:40 AM] jlun2#8758
forever; healthcare for the rich advances to the point people never die


[27-Apr-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True, it will only get longer


[27-Apr-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my feelings towards biden as a presidential nominee are basically:

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[27-Apr-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Jeb! is not better than Biden


[27-Apr-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I forgot what Jeb was even about


[27-Apr-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was seen as an inevitability facing Hillary in 2016 but his campaign quickly floundered.


[27-Apr-20 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so his whole thing was being cocky


[27-Apr-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't even perceived to be a contest for either party


[27-Apr-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DNC ensured it wasn't for the Dems, but the RNC did/doesn't have similar rules


[27-Apr-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then there was Ben "The pyramids were joseph's grain silos!" Carson


[27-Apr-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Republican delegates are winner take all, Democratic are proportional)


[27-Apr-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus superdelegates had power in 2016


[27-Apr-20 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though i meant jebs platform, i forgot entirely what he wanted and only remember the memes


[27-Apr-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Generic neoconservativism


[27-Apr-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[27-Apr-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so all he had going was the memes then


[27-Apr-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeb's platform was killing baby Hitler


[27-Apr-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the hope that there wasn't a populist Republican


[27-Apr-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also yes, you do have an obligation to kill baby Hitler


[27-Apr-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had time travel i wouldnt try to kill anyone... except maybe trump's grandfather ont he way to america


[27-Apr-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the 1890s. People would have expected it


[27-Apr-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"oh darn, he died. oh well"


[27-Apr-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would mostly use time travel to buy shit i wasnt alive to obtain at the time


[27-Apr-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd just make money off of all of the songs/media I know


[27-Apr-20 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
go back in time, buy superman 1, live off that for the rest of my life


[27-Apr-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever see Yesterday


[27-Apr-20 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[27-Apr-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Failing musician wakes up in a world where the Beatles never existed; becomes famous.


[27-Apr-20 04:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
go back in time, kill bruce wayne's parents, create batman


[27-Apr-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, going bakc in time from 2020 onward might cause a global super plague in the past


[27-Apr-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://miro.medium.com/max/1320/1*3HbEoUs7YvpgcycglVEytw@2x.jpeg

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[27-Apr-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What university isn't p/f at this point


[27-Apr-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
mine didn't make it mandatory


[27-Apr-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
they should have


[27-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
Bush needs to be tried at the Hague for warcrimes,


[27-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That describes most US presidents.


[27-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being a superpower means the rules don't apply to you, pretty much.


[27-Apr-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
a position with that that level of responsibility should come with appropriate consequences for abusing it


[27-Apr-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it does not


[27-Apr-20 08:00 AM] Honahue#0656
the Sword of Damocles was thrown out long ago if it ever existed


[27-Apr-20 08:18 AM] illumnious#7938
How

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[27-Apr-20 08:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Several conditions cand lower pulse strength and rhythm, and breathing, to the point a human can't really tell using conventional on-site checks


[27-Apr-20 08:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though iris response should still work


[27-Apr-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
this is why in America EMS can't pronouce death unless it's like super obvious


[27-Apr-20 11:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[27-Apr-20 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/medical-company-gets-10-million-allegedly-overcharged-for-medical-supplies-2020-4

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MiMedx Group received a $10 million loan two weeks after paying $6.5 million to resolve allegations it had knowingly overcharged the US.
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[27-Apr-20 12:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How can 5G lightwave turns people into gay since lightwave is straight


[27-Apr-20 12:04 PM] byte[]#2610
waves aren't straight


[27-Apr-20 12:05 PM] byte[]#2610
but as I'm sure you're aware light's behavior isn't perfectly described by wave motion


[27-Apr-20 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
waves are gay

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[27-Apr-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-trump-to-focus-on-the-economy-after-disastrous-briefings-2020-4

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White House aides want Trump to only talk about the economy in publ...
President Trump has used campaign rally rhetoric and spread dangerous falsehoods at the briefings, which aides fear might have backfired.
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[27-Apr-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/doctors-find-serious-coronavirus-related-condition-children-symptoms-uk-covid-2020-4

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There is 'growing concern' that a serious new coronavirus-related condition may be emerging in children.
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[27-Apr-20 02:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Why

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[27-Apr-20 02:17 PM] Opponent#3498
they lived their lives.


[27-Apr-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, he claimed 'noble' was sarcasm too.


[27-Apr-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the circus perfomance never ends.


[27-Apr-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he did


[27-Apr-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:caddy:


[27-Apr-20 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/26/asia/kim-jong-un-north-korea-health-intl/index.html

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South Korea continued to pour water on mounting speculation about the health of North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un, telling CNN he is "alive and well."
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[27-Apr-20 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess tomorrow he'll be preparing to step down while a funeral service for an unnamed high ranking official is in planning?

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[27-Apr-20 02:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/politics/trump-disinfectant.html

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[27-Apr-20 02:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We can't trust any single word Trump says because no one know if it's sarcasm


[27-Apr-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not sarcasm


[27-Apr-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Donald Trump is nearly always completely serious


[27-Apr-20 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
When he's not serious, he will praise himself for how good the joke he just made was


[27-Apr-20 02:53 PM] byte[]#2610
He will _not_ react and say "it was sarcasm"


[27-Apr-20 02:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can anyone guess how will the America stocks be like this Monday?


[27-Apr-20 02:56 PM] jlun2#8758
probably opposite of the economy itself
more ppl losing jobs or dying == higher stocks


[27-Apr-20 02:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[27-Apr-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the stock market is not reflective of the economy


[27-Apr-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it seems to run on human suffering


[27-Apr-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anything stops the suffering, the stock market dies a little


[27-Apr-20 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
The Line demands the obedience and structural violences of the people


[27-Apr-20 03:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Workers vote to unionize? The Line falls


[27-Apr-20 03:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Politicians campaign on healthcare? The Line falls


[27-Apr-20 03:28 PM] byte[]#2610
Unions busted up by scabs? The Line goes up
Politicians supporting healthcare mysteriously lose their campaigns despite massive popular support? The Line skyrockets


[27-Apr-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone on wallstreet dies horribly and can't get medical aid? The line becomes a sentient diety!


[27-Apr-20 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[27-Apr-20 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The line is already sentient, it's mostly bots


[27-Apr-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that explains why it runs on human suffering


[27-Apr-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
The stock market is a representation of earnings growth by companies. So as long as they can keep making a profit, it grows. Sometimes this profit growth does come at firing as many people as they can and slashing benefits. If a company could turn a profit without making anything, you can be sure they'd be going straight for that since the share-holders want to see higher quarterly rewards and annual earnings to themselves as the value of the company rises higher.


[27-Apr-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
So yea, stocks are not representative of the economy as a whole.


[27-Apr-20 03:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Publicly traded companies are essentially psychopaths that don't have a concept of time that extends beyond a year


[27-Apr-20 03:35 PM] byte[]#2610
quarter*


[27-Apr-20 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-says-easing-lockdown-would-throw-away-effort-and-sacrifice-of-british-people-11979338

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The prime minister tells Britons to "contain your impatience" as he returns to work in Number 10.
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[27-Apr-20 04:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Broken clock


[27-Apr-20 04:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, probably only because it got to him

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[27-Apr-20 04:10 PM] Opponent#3498
most likely, yes.


[27-Apr-20 04:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it suddenly became **REAL**


[27-Apr-20 04:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494623-san-francisco-mayor-says-citys-ppe-orders-have-been-diverted-confiscated

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San Francisco mayor says city's PPE orders have been diverted, conf...
San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) said Friday that her city’s orders for personal protection equipment (PPE) have been diverted to other U.S. cities and foreign countries.
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[27-Apr-20 04:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kushner's horde grows


[27-Apr-20 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
hoard*


[27-Apr-20 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
although the horde also grows most likely.


[27-Apr-20 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the weak sickly house elf has added more to his pile


[27-Apr-20 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.supplychaindive.com/news/coronavirus-amazon-shuts-distribution-centers-france-worker-safety/576179/

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Amazon extends distribution center shutdowns in France after losing...
A French court ruled the company must cease delivery of non-essential goods after a labor union filed complaints about worker safety measures.
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[27-Apr-20 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-criticizes-corporate-america-greedy-as-hell-2020-4 thank you joe, for giving us information that clearly wasnt known before

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In an interview with Politico, he said of the stimulus' benefit to large companies and banks that "this is the second time we've bailed their asses out."
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[27-Apr-20 04:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Welcome to fuckery https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/1249802856003260416?s=20

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[27-Apr-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/494764-schumer-to-introduce-no-pr-act-to-stop-trump-from-placing-name-on-stimulus

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Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) is reportedly planning to introduce a provision that would prevent President Trump from placing his name on any additional coronavirus stimulus checks.
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[27-Apr-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so i guess the treasure secretary and trump will throw a fit and just stop printing them then?


[27-Apr-20 04:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/494788-supreme-court-says-congress-must-pay-insurers-billions-under-obamacare

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Supreme Court says Congress must pay insurers billions under Obamacare
The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that Congress must keep its promise to insurers over a $12 billion pledge under ObamaCare.
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[27-Apr-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
No


[27-Apr-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
They will ignore the law


[27-Apr-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Mitch Antoinette won't bring it up for a vote anyway


[27-Apr-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
So it's a stupid thing to begin with


[27-Apr-20 05:55 PM] Crow#5457
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[27-Apr-20 09:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Isn't it British who kept the land?


[27-Apr-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
google the "trail of tears" and wonder why that's the guy we use on our $20 notes


[27-Apr-20 09:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Apr-20 09:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Infected over 1 million now

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[27-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
numba one


[27-Apr-20 10:17 PM] Honahue#0656
rookie numbers


[27-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
I figured it out guys


[27-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
the Line isn't actually tracking the market


[27-Apr-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
The Line goes up with the infection count

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[27-Apr-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-mayor-violated-stay-at-home-order-nail-salon-2020-4

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A Texas mayor apologized after violating her state's stay-at-home o...
Becky Ames, the mayor of Beaumont, Texas, said she's "truly remorseful" but clarified that she didn't go to the salon to get her nails done.
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[27-Apr-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-calls-florida-ground-zero-for-nursing-homes-2020-4

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Gov. DeSantis called Florida 'ground zero' for nursing homes and 'G...
About one-fourth of more than 1,000 deaths from COVID-19 in Florida have occurred in long-term care facilities.
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[27-Apr-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can't tell if this is real...

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[27-Apr-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc11.com/health/reopen-nc-administrator-says-she-tested-positive-for-covid-19/6132539/

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Reopen NC administrator says she tested positive for COVID-19
An administrator for the Reopen NC Facebook page confirmed she tested positive for COVID-19 and recently finished up her two-week quarantine.
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[27-Apr-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it's obviously fake


[27-Apr-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
twitter hasn't looked like that the better part of a decade


[27-Apr-20 10:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump can't blame the fake news because it is being sarcastic as well


[27-Apr-20 10:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump's use of the word "sarcasm" is pretty photosynthesis


[27-Apr-20 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But besides finding a fun new word to whip behind the shed, he spent the better part of the day yesterday burying the evidence on twitter by retweeting months-old stuff from his own account and other places, adding such meaningful commentary as "So true!"


[27-Apr-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah such lovely quotes like "FAKE NEWS, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!"


[27-Apr-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1254769296280031232?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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FAKE NEWS, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!
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[27-Apr-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Fox isn't sucking him off hard enough anymore


[27-Apr-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he demands analingus


[27-Apr-20 10:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really excited for today's briefing, might get popcorn


[27-Apr-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is there even one today?


[27-Apr-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494897-texas-to-begin-lifting-coronavirus-restrictions-friday

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Texas to begin lifting coronavirus restrictions Friday
Texas will begin a phased reopening process on Friday as scheduled, Gov. Greg Abbott (R) announced in a press briefing Monday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_gregabbott_041720getty.jpg


[27-Apr-20 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be one


[27-Apr-20 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Lq65ITb5Y apparently, yes

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FOX 10 Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Lq65ITb5Y
LIVE: President Donald Trump Briefing | 5pm Eastern
Sharing a mix of breaking news, top stories, popular culture and engaging discussions.
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[27-Apr-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i bet it;s only 5 minutes long, he calls the media a fat doody head, and runs off stage in a huff


[27-Apr-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

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Wealth, shown to scale
Inequality in the United States is out of control. Here we visualize the issue in a unique way.
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[27-Apr-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/hlryr5fh1dv41.png

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[27-Apr-20 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://youtu.be/YraUerctDM8?t=165

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Kevin Plunkette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YraUerctDM8&start=165
Joe Rogan on electing a dumb guy!! George Bush!!
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[27-Apr-20 11:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
prophetic


[27-Apr-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it;s here


[27-Apr-20 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Note he's in the rose garden


[27-Apr-20 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Where they can mute reporters with a flick of a switch


[27-Apr-20 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't do that in the press room


[27-Apr-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is


[27-Apr-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And, and he's brought some random CEOs for padding and compliments


[27-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Thank you mr president, it's a true honor" etc


[27-Apr-20 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
time to mute


[27-Apr-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
boy i sure love this padding


[27-Apr-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such a productive update


[27-Apr-20 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Comedic at this point


[28-Apr-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Go time


[28-Apr-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"breitbart news"


[28-Apr-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How the fuck did he get in there


[28-Apr-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
pfft, guess.


[28-Apr-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgewm7/gop-states-reopening-early-will-push-people-scared-to-work-off-unemployment

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GOP Governors Will Push Workers off Unemployment by Reopening Early
The Department of Labor confirmed to VICE that workers who refuse to return to work out of a general fear for their safety will lose their CARES Act unemployment benefits.
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[28-Apr-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just die for the line god 4head


[28-Apr-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How hard is that


[28-Apr-20 12:34 AM] Opponent#3498
this is cold but fair. If some people do go to work, there's no reason others in similar situations shouldn't


[28-Apr-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
of course, it's also massively hypocritical to what they themselves are doing


[28-Apr-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
but I can see people supporting this decision


[28-Apr-20 12:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not...how labor is supposed to work


[28-Apr-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Departments under Trump are like under INGSOC


[28-Apr-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The name denotes what they're there to undercut


[28-Apr-20 12:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like imagine if this applied to OSHA. No, inspector, we don't have any risks at our plant; just look at all these happy employees who are still working! Do you think I should bend over backwards for the whiners if these guys aren't complaining?


[28-Apr-20 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
it probably does work more or less this way in practice.


[28-Apr-20 12:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for the lobbyists, yes; for actual plant operators, this is how you get shut down by the inspector


[28-Apr-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
not unless the inspector feels the same way and votes Trump ;)


[28-Apr-20 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the lobbyist solution is just to make sure there aren't enough inspectors to go around


[28-Apr-20 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
American capitalism is so logical, wee


[28-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know it's a rag but


[28-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/send-the-nlrb-back-to-the-salt-mine/

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Send the NLRB Back to the Salt Mine | National Review
The NLRB process has proven itself here to be both humorlessly literal-minded and easily abused.
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[28-Apr-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1136839955068534784

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Ben Domenech (@bdomenech)
https://twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1136839955068534784
FYI @fdrlst first one of you tries to unionize I swear I'll send you back to the salt mine
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[28-Apr-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right winger bitching about this tweet


[28-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
NLRB?


[28-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Federal agency that enforces labor law


[28-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>followed by derek smart
I love tracking him and a few others to see what whackjobs they follow

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[28-Apr-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
being insufferable is a virtue now?


[28-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Don't say stupid shit on Twitter about how you'll crush unions" is pretty much one of the few pro-labor positions the Trump NLRB has


[28-Apr-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one guy tried that with gun threats, it didnt work out well for him


[28-Apr-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think


[28-Apr-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Why make the threats yourself? Just call the Pinkertons!*


[28-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people have such contempt for the civil service, they should just say the quiet part out loud


[28-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just say you want the president to run everything.


[28-Apr-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just say you want feudalism


[28-Apr-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's legitimate monarchists in the GOP. Just come out of the king closet.


[28-Apr-20 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then you can crush peasant revolts alongside Grand Duke Jeff I of Bezos with just total impunity


[28-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess this is another way my thinking is incompatible with most conservatives: I see value in honesty, even if you have an extreme position


[28-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex. being a racist is bad but explicitly saying "I'm a racist, I think X group is inferior" is better to me than sugarcoating


[28-Apr-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some guy in the c tweet thread is declaring union crushing tweets are protected by the first amendment


[28-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can say


[28-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I hate unions, it would be bad for me"


[28-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
not


[28-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I will crush any union and fire anyone who tries to form one"


[28-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/the-federalist-publishers-tweet-was-illegal-labor-board-judge

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The Federalist Publisher’s Tweet Was Unlawful: NLRB Judge (2)
The publisher of conservative online magazine The Federalist broke federal labor laws when he tweeted last year that he’d send employees “back to the salt mine” if they tried to unionize, a National Labor Relations Board administrative judge decided.
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[28-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
:yay::yay::yay:


[28-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, that's what the guy was whining about


[28-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The ALJ is correct. The point was to threaten.


[28-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“The main issue is not really the tweet per se or the underlying charge,” attorney Adi Dynar told Bloomberg Law Thursday. “It’s that a random person on the internet should not be abusing the administrative machinery for some personal motives.”


[28-Apr-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-obama-officials-want-to-pay-americans-to-self-isolate-2020-4

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Health experts from the Trump, Obama, and Bush administrations want...
The $46.5 billion proposal would use federal funds to hire an army of contract tracers and pay people to self-isolate, in hotels if they need.
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[28-Apr-20 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/exiled-on-main-street

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TrueAnon
https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/exiled-on-main-street
Episode 63: Exiled On Main Street
True Anon is joined by Mark Ames of the War Nerd and Exiled to talk social collapse, Russiagate, Shock Therapy and Comrade Putin
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[28-Apr-20 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comparing Russia of the nineties to America today and oligarchical concentration of media


[28-Apr-20 02:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Paying people to self-isolate? When do they have to pay it back?


[28-Apr-20 02:19 AM] illumnious#7938
on a new episode of *the fuckery diaries* https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-cuts-ties-with-diamond-and-silk?via=twitter_page

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Fox News Cuts Ties With Diamond & Silk
The MAGA superstars lost their Fox gig after pushing absolutely wild conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic.
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[28-Apr-20 02:19 AM] illumnious#7938
good


[28-Apr-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who these people are


[28-Apr-20 02:20 AM] illumnious#7938
the biggest fuckery supporters


[28-Apr-20 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
fuckery loves these two hoes


[28-Apr-20 02:21 AM] illumnious#7938
and they're not making any sense on telly


[28-Apr-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their quotes make them sound like they should be working more for alex jones than fox news


[28-Apr-20 02:22 AM] illumnious#7938
lol


[28-Apr-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
I mean seriously tho, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJlpeOKO_IA

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Diamond and Silk - The Viewers View
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJlpeOKO_IA
Diamond and Silk on live pre-recorded on 4-3-20....
.@DiamondandSilk on live pre-recorded on 4-3-20....  Giving it to you straight from the gate.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jJlpeOKO_IA/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Apr-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just cut to 13:46 where the MyPillow guy's telling everyone he was a cocaine addict and then a crack cocaine addict


[28-Apr-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't think the remaining 90 minutes can beat that


[28-Apr-20 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318129883421081600/704487855606595584/20200427_182143.jpg

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[28-Apr-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WE


[28-Apr-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LIVE


[28-Apr-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IN


[28-Apr-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A


[28-Apr-20 02:29 AM] illumnious#7938
SOCIETY


[28-Apr-20 02:30 AM] illumnious#7938
A FUCKING SOCIETY


[28-Apr-20 02:31 AM] jlun2#8758
Wait, leftist hate video games? I thought that was boomers of both sides


[28-Apr-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most conservatives i;ve met arent playing puzzle games, most of thme are playing call of duty and the like


[28-Apr-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no offense to call of duty


[28-Apr-20 02:33 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) ok, so make the boss of that game a sliding puzzle, got it


[28-Apr-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
call of duty: modern tetris


[28-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tetris was made by commies


[28-Apr-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
call of duty: pajama sam's last revenge


[28-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only game conservative boomers respect is Custer's Revenge


[28-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I mean it’s not surprising


[28-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
CoD has a ton of US Military wankery and general fetishization OG war


[28-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
*of


[28-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
*signed: a guy who still enjoys these


[28-Apr-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of them also sit in a circle playing mobile shooting games


[28-Apr-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt really call that "problem solving" in a video game


[28-Apr-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-has-good-idea-kim-jong-un-health-2020-4

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Trump says he 'has a good idea' of how Kim Jong Un is doing seconds...
The North Korean leader hasn't been publicly seen since April 11 and missed a key April 15 celebration, fueling rumors about his health.
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[28-Apr-20 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
at this point there's no more reason to even report shit like this


[28-Apr-20 03:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No one 🙌 knows 👐 Kim Jong Un 👆 better than 👌 me!


[28-Apr-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"No one has sex like me and kim, you know, you know me and kim have the best sex. It's almost like, like kim and I are the best lovers"


[28-Apr-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/494948-illinois-judge-temporarily-releases-gop-state-lawmaker-from-stay-at

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Illinois judge temporarily releases GOP state lawmaker from stay-at...
An Illinois judge temporarily released a GOP state lawmaker from Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s (D) stay-at-home order extension on Monday.
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[28-Apr-20 04:41 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-has-good-idea-kim-jong-un-health-2020-4
@prism stryder(intexda) by good you mean HORRIBLE idea

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[28-Apr-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wont-rule-out-suing-states-to-reopen

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[28-Apr-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a winkwink nudgenudge implying the DOJ will file amicus for anyone who wants to sue a "blue state"


[28-Apr-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only wink wink is about it being blue.


[28-Apr-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Trump makes an argument that the feds shouldn't have to bail out blue states, why should blue states even bother staying in the US exactly?


[28-Apr-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God help these "small government" conservatives if Biden wins.


[28-Apr-20 06:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now American dead of corona are more than of Vietnam war


[28-Apr-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And like the Vietnam War, we still think we've won it.


[28-Apr-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also like the Vietnam War, we have a president who needlessly extends the deaths.


[28-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
History repeats, but as parody.


[28-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon wouldn't have resigned if he had the conservative media of today.


[28-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because the senators would have never sat down with him


[28-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I saw a video recently about how, basically, the Star Wars Sequels are Marx's view of history.


[28-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or alternatively, that real life is basically the Star Wars franchise in terms of how it works.


[28-Apr-20 06:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also like the Vietnam War, our enemies are invisible


[28-Apr-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You think it's absolutely terrible and can't get any worse. Then it does.


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it turns out, humans are incredibly bad at knowing when they've messed up.


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only way for the US to have won Vietnam would have been like


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nuke Hanoi; nuclear carpet bomb the rest of North Vietnam


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
UN complains; leave the UN


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Become a pariah state


[28-Apr-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then is Obama The Last Democrat?


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, Biden will surely win


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think you put too much value into what Disney expected of the sequel trilogy too


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
but by the time he's truly in power, he'll be forced into liberal positions.


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean?


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By the time TFA came out, the MCU was huge


[28-Apr-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney maybe thought it could reach that level, but it became apparent it would not


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The MCU is the Star Wars of this generation" isn't something I say lightly


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly?


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If I'm a corporate executive


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars Sequels made bank


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd put in money to make three more with Abrams on all three.


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And China would eat it up.


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you run it into the ground you can't reboot it a decade from now and ignore the shit people didn't like.


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if they made three more prequel movies


[28-Apr-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kathleen Kennedy would rant and rave about how now Rey is female Vader and has the thing from the vision, so the trailer wasn't lying.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
```The only way for the US to have won Vietnam would have been like```
there was much less of an overwhelming force needed. Conventional means were enough, they were deployed improperly. US won in the field regardless (no wonder), then lost diplomatically and _that_ burned far worse than it otherwise could have.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And each movie would make over a billion dollars despite being literally just smashing tropes and old ideas from the better movies together.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, they're gonna make three more prequels I think.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hell no


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The franchise is dead for at least five years.


[28-Apr-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The CGI kids stuff isn't


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Baby Yoda series sure


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ahsoka Tano decapitates guys bloodlessly and it gets a TV-Y7 on Cartoon Network


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That makes money.


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I'm Disney


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CGI kids stuff being all that's left means you are dead


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I say make the movies CGI


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I tell parents this won't be the edgy Kylo Ren stuff


[28-Apr-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but actually it is


[28-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that since it's CGI it gets a PG rating instead of PG-13


[28-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Audiences think it's something new when it's actually just Darth Maul going around killing people like he did in Rebels or whatever.


[28-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah to make it politics


[28-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then I use the power of the monopoly to advertise.


[28-Apr-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People have started to believe me when I say Biden simply doesn't have Hillary's baggage.


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter at this point.


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could shoot a man dead in the street


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could do the same


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN would argue about which people should be shot and which shouldn't.


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's more than having a penis.


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox would say that Trump didn't do it on purpose


[28-Apr-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN would say Biden had good reasons


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
See


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Hill would put out a story showing the guys shot were major DNC donors.


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
Fox would say the guy looked suspicious.


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
what you want in a political scandal


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would all blow over by election day.


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is people to say "Yeah, I'd do that too"


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you get that, it actually will help you.


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mission accomplished then.


[28-Apr-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who wouldn't shoot major DNC donors?


[28-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The ugly truth is that I'd bet most people don't care if Biden groped someone or (especially) got his son a job while VP


[28-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone would go "yeah shady people get their just desserts, I'm sure Biden was really rooting out corruption"


[28-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Because they would do it too_


[28-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point


[28-Apr-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
All Biden needs is to not drop dead post convention


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to not like, literally shit on Florida


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He could do that but rebuild the Blue Wall and win PA


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Arizona


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll get PA, Arizona, Florida


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
not exactly a wall, but still impenetrable.


[28-Apr-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blue encirclement.


[28-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both coasts completely won.


[28-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he repeals the Jones Act


[28-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
coastal areas cheer


[28-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
flyover states literally won't understand what it's about


[28-Apr-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The cursed Blue Hook

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[28-Apr-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the time Republicans come up with some BS where all the red tape it added was actually good because muh nationalism


[28-Apr-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flyover states will be afraid of an executive order on abortion


[28-Apr-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few more states putting in place things in their constitution against voter suppression and that's basically game except SCOTUS.


[28-Apr-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point it's just a question of how many liberals got into congress, and thus whether Biden gets told to sign things like Medicare for All or weak nonsense that just funnels money to Silicon Valley.


[28-Apr-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Senate will be entirely simple majority as well.


[28-Apr-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well if Biden wins it will be weird because Breyer and Ginsburg will retire right after each other


[28-Apr-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, April 2021 at latest for both


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll put in place young justices


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
younger than Kavanaugh.


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to say "we can do it too"


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a dirty game but I guess you have to play it


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Utter shills for the party as well.


[28-Apr-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you pick anyone else?


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, he'll be signing bills that all but directly say how SCOTUS should rule.


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh, SCOTUS justices are all shills that don't really care about the law


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're stooges


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In order to try to force a retirement from the conservatives.


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ginsburg has actual ideas on law.


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rest...not so much.


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah...


[28-Apr-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Occasionally Gorsuch or someone just stumbles into something where the party hadn't yet poisoned them and pulls off a surprise.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will probably never stop being mad he ruled that treaties are to be respected with natives.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty sure on Election Night if Biden wins Thomas will have a stroke.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That has really far reaching effects.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas will be fine.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts is the one I'd peg for droppingo ut.


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas has had a massive hateboner for Biden since he got confirmed


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then again he has that for everything


[28-Apr-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd realize that with the entire gov't against him, he can only harm his precious reputation.


[28-Apr-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, right now Roberts flies under the radar cause Trump, McConnell etc. are out and about.


[28-Apr-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if Dems control everything but SCOTUS, then Roberts stikks out like a sore thumb.


[28-Apr-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas' documentary/autobiography movie is basically "Yeah I didn't really want to be a federal judge or a SCOTUS justice but whatever I got here, and God aren't white liberals awful?"


[28-Apr-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be out there saying that like, we need voter ID


[28-Apr-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty sure he compares white liberals to the KKK.


[28-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile another trove of Republican plans to suppress the vote gets shown to the media.


[28-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden would open with a SOTU address saying Roberts has just enabled Jim Crowe again


[28-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
right as the Dem Senate repasses the VRA


[28-Apr-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In billions of votes casted since 2000 there have been under 1000 cases of fraud


[28-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm serious, Biden would just plain like


[28-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
do a SOTU address


[28-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
solely to say Roberts is violating the constitution.


[28-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
MLK and Malcom X agreed that white liberals were just as bad for blacks, KKK will call them n-word to their face white liberal will be polite then vote to take their rights awya


[28-Apr-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats would see SCOTUS as something to destroy.


[28-Apr-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Joe "I'll make FDR look like Nixon" Biden


[28-Apr-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or more accurately a puppet for Dems in power


[28-Apr-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
A puppet of a puppet, most likely.


[28-Apr-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whoever's VP would be his handler.


[28-Apr-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the GW Bush years again.


[28-Apr-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
it's entirely likely Biden will resign like a month in for health reason


[28-Apr-20 06:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>wrong decision of government
>hundreds of thousands of people killed or injured
>president claimed won the war
>anti-communism parades everywhere
>heat and chemical drugs used on killing enemies
>enemies are invisible
Corona = Vietnam commies confirmed


[28-Apr-20 10:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://omnonim.tumblr.com/post/616600868106682368/wizerdmemes-reactionary-bot-sad-but-true-it>

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[28-Apr-20 11:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[28-Apr-20 11:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
PETA is doing their job in China


[28-Apr-20 11:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Gather 1,000,000 people to urge our Congress to make Anti Animal Abuse Law"


[28-Apr-20 11:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How do they think our government will take care of the animals, since we can't even make our 1.4 billion humans achieve "well-off"


[28-Apr-20 12:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
PETA doesn't care about that


[28-Apr-20 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
PETA in the US kills shittonne of animals


[28-Apr-20 12:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't care about the animals at all, just about having a cause to leach money from


[28-Apr-20 12:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"PETA rescued a dog" is synonymous with "PETA kidnapped someone's dog, took a camera crew to make a big deal about it, then killed it offscreen a few hours later"


[28-Apr-20 12:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've read a propaganda book of PETA in our library


[28-Apr-20 12:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't believe some of what they said in that book...


[28-Apr-20 12:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like, they said several percent parents in the US feed their children with vegan food, and their children are proven being more healthy and intelligent than others


[28-Apr-20 12:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So which one should I believe? A suspicious, resourceless number, or general biological knowledge?


[28-Apr-20 12:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Keeping a vegan diet for a child that's actually healthy and doesn't stunt their development would be something limited to rich folk only


[28-Apr-20 12:17 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't really understand some of their theories


[28-Apr-20 12:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"If animals can speak, they will say humans are the most evil demon"


[28-Apr-20 12:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So why is it "if animals can speak", not "if vegetables can speak"


[28-Apr-20 12:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's fucking racist

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[28-Apr-20 12:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If they want to convince people to take veganship, let them play with farm animals and then let then to see the animals at end of day brutally butchered at abattoir.

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[28-Apr-20 12:51 PM] Opponent#3498
that would indeed be the most effective approach I can think of.


[28-Apr-20 12:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's how one of my friends became a strict vegan.


[28-Apr-20 01:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[28-Apr-20 01:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's wrong with WRN?


[28-Apr-20 01:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AMsXgGJCeR-233sd3GSaiig

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Do Directors Own Western Copper and Gold Corporation (TSE:WRN) Shar...
The big shareholder groups in Western Copper and Gold Corporation (TSE:WRN) have power over the company. Institutions...
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQW5uSVFZTDFhVGotLWQ4ajlGc3NGS1EAMA


[28-Apr-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/other/494975-chinese-scientists-predict-coronavirus-wont-be-eradicated

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Chinese scientists predict coronavirus won't be eradicated
Chinese scientists said this week that they believe the novel coronavirus will not be eradicated, predicting that the disease could possibly return periodically like the flu.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_vaccine-dev_032020getty.jpg


[28-Apr-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know a more deadly faster spreading flu that occasionally just kills thousands of people in a month


[28-Apr-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[28-Apr-20 01:49 PM] Opponent#3498
this almost reads like 'They're working around the clock to make this dream a reality' 😂


[28-Apr-20 01:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ohshit.
"You were not enough fit, goodbye and die!"


[28-Apr-20 01:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's what it sums up to, but hey, there's a brightside to it! Anti vaxxers will be eradicated!


[28-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and debras will kill millions by forcing hair salons open because they desperately need a touch up of their fake blonde hair


[28-Apr-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cut-research-funds-bat-virus-conspiracy-theories-politico-2020-4

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Trump cut funding for a group researching bat-to-human virus transm...
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[28-Apr-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cant-imagine-why-spike-in-calls-to-poison-control-2020-4

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Trump says he 'can't imagine why' there was a spike in calls to eme...
President Trump suggested experts look into treating the coronavirus by injecting disinfectants into the body during a coronavirus press briefing.
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[28-Apr-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/494807-trump-asks-why-taxpayers-should-help-bail-out-democrat-run-states

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Trump asks why taxpayers should help bail out blue states
President Trump on Monday questioned why the federal government should provide financial relief to states facing budgetary strains due to the coronavirus pandemic, portraying it as a partisan issue in states and cities with Democratic le
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[28-Apr-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Apr-20 02:17 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cant-imagine-why-spike-in-calls-to-poison-control-2020-4
@prism stryder(intexda)  oh wow, he forgot the fucking line he said about disinfecting shit

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Trump says he 'can't imagine why' there was a spike in calls to eme...
President Trump suggested experts look into treating the coronavirus by injecting disinfectants into the body during a coronavirus press briefing.
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[28-Apr-20 02:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you fucking dumb https://twitter.com/khoublake11/status/1254864225870073856?s=21

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#BREAKING: Texas Governor begins reopening Texas beginning May 1st.
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[28-Apr-20 02:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you fucking dumb


[28-Apr-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What the fuck is the obsession with hair solons


[28-Apr-20 02:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
SACRIFICE TO THE LINE


[28-Apr-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
looks are everything and if a few thousand people have to die so they can look good, then so be it


[28-Apr-20 02:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In SA we are reopening gradually from 1st may.


[28-Apr-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in NC we are staying closed until shit gets sorted


[28-Apr-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, provided a politician soemwhere doesnt fuck shit up


[28-Apr-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/494886-ranchers-sue-trump-administration-arguing-water-rollback-is-federal

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Ranchers sue Trump administration, arguing water rollback is federa...
A group of ranchers sued the Trump administration Monday over a rollback to an Obama-era water rule they argue is still too strict.
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[28-Apr-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-brett-crozier-theodore-roosevelt-reinstatement

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Navy reportedly recommends reinstating fired USS Theodore Roosevelt...
The Navy has recommended reinstating Capt. Brett Crozier, the commanding officer of the USS Theodore Roosevelt whose plea for help during a novel coronavirus (COVID-19) aboard aboard the ship not only cost him his job but led the acting Navy secretary to resign shortly afterwards
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[28-Apr-20 04:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abc7.com/jetblue-is-it-safe-to-fly-airlines-covid/6133759/

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Coronavirus News: JetBlue is first US airline to require travelers ...
JetBlue is the first major U.S. airline to require all customers to wear face coverings during travel to help slow the spread of COVID-19.
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[28-Apr-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Apr-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[28-Apr-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/news/wti-oil-price-fall-negative-100-barrel-next-month-mizuho-2020-4-1029118352

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Oil could hit negative $100 per barrel next month, according to one...
US West Texas Intermediate crude oil could plunge to negative $100 per barrel next month, Paul Sankey of Mizuho Securities wrote in a Tuesday no...
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[28-Apr-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[28-Apr-20 06:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-georgia-rep-who-endorsed-trump-resigns-after-backlash-report

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Democratic Georgia rep who endorsed Trump resigns after backlash: r...
Georgia Democratic state Rep. Vernon Jones announced he is resigning from his seat Tuesday after last week endorsing President Trump's reelection -- a move that quickly earned him backlash from Georgia Democrats.
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[28-Apr-20 06:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/supreme-court-rules-georgia-cant-put-the-law-behind-a-paywall/

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Supreme Court rules Georgia can’t put the law behind a paywall
The state of Georgia licensed the official copy of state law to LexisNexis.
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[28-Apr-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking so Thomas and Alito literally used *argumentum ad populum* mixed with "well yes we'll follow old precedent, but this is a loophole, so let's keep the loophole open to screw people" to say what Georgia was doing was okay. Meanwhile, Ginsburg for some reason thought that official fukking annotations you *need* to be able to follow the law should be fair game, even if the legislature makes them. And then Breyer agreed with both.


[28-Apr-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-neighboring-georgia-reopen-coronavirus-cases-tennessee-have-biggest-one-day-increase-1500375

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As Tennessee and neighboring Georgia reopen, coronavirus cases in T...
Tennessee saw a 5.2 percent increase in the number of confirmed cases on Sunday.
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[28-Apr-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wow, and Trump's mad because the guy reopened ahead of Trump's ideas.


[28-Apr-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a sign Republicans are really quite fractured.


[28-Apr-20 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/wisconsin-officials-link-7-coronavirus-cases-to-april-7-election-2020-4

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Officials in Wisconsin found that least 36 people who tested positi...
Milwaukee, which usually has 180 open polling locations, operated with just five on election day, creating hours-long lines to vote in some cases.
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[28-Apr-20 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ending-coronavirus-lockdowns-in-mississippi-georgia-and-florida-could-doom-thousands

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New Model Shows How Deadly Lifting Georgia’s Lockdown May Be
Georgia, Florida, and Mississippi are veering toward a terrifyingly premature end to their COVID-19 lockdowns, according to a new pandemic analysis.
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[28-Apr-20 07:19 PM] byte[]#2610
subtitle: "cost of living"

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[28-Apr-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/27/mcconnell-aid-states-coronavirus-212424

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McConnell dangles aid to states — with a catch
The Senate majority leader said in an interview that he was open to a deal with Democrats on the next relief package.
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[28-Apr-20 07:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the catch is he's gonna make it so people can't sue companies who made shit worse by violating state gov't orders and creating dangerous workplaces etc.


[28-Apr-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the excuse that the lawsuits would cost them money and they're just struggling too much in these trying times.


[28-Apr-20 07:32 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. it works


[28-Apr-20 07:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Doctors Are Posting Nudes To Protest What They Say Is A Shortage Of Coronavirus Masks https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/matthewchampion/coronavirus-naked-doctor-protest-germany

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Doctors Are Posting Nudes To Protest What They Say Is A Shortage Of...
"The nudity should symbolize that we are vulnerable without protection," said one German doctor taking part in the protest.
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[28-Apr-20 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>buzzfeed news


[28-Apr-20 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
hmm


[28-Apr-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/leader-north-carolina-protests-against-stay-home-tests-positive-coronavirus-1500545

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Leader of North Carolina protests against stay-at-home tests positi...
A leader of a North Carolina group protesting preventative measures amid the Covid-19 pandemic has tested positive for coronavirus but insists that being forced to stay home is a violation of her First Amendment rights.
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[28-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are the people you shoot on sight in a zombie apocalypse.


[28-Apr-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they will tell you they were bitten, but it's their right to come along.


[28-Apr-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-antibodies-found-one-quarter-all-new-york-city-residents-cuomo-says-1500561

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Coronavirus antibodies found in one-quarter of all New York City re...
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said Monday that 24.7 percent of New York City residents and 14.9 percent of residents statewide were shown to have coronavirus antibodies.
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[28-Apr-20 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/mike-dewine-ohio-coronavirus.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/mike-dewine-ohio-coronavirus.html
Ohio’s G.O.P. Governor Splits From Trump, and Rises in Popularity
Mike DeWine, a low-key career politician, has followed health experts’ guidance as Ohio confronts the coronavirus. His constituents are overwhelmingly appreciative.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/28/us/politics/28dewine-01/28dewine-01-facebookJumbo.jpg


[28-Apr-20 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
not good sign for trump


[28-Apr-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/27/846750295/supreme-court-to-government-pay-obamacare-insurers

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Supreme Court To Government: Pay Obamacare Insurers
Under the law, the money was promised to companies as part of the start-up costs of Obamacare. But a GOP-led Congress reneged on the promise.
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[28-Apr-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS to Republicans: HEY ASSHOLES YOU CAN'T JUST SAY YOU'LL BAIL OUT FAILING BUSINESSES WHEN DEMS FIX SOMETHING AND THEN PULL THE PLUG TO PUNISH PEOPLE FOR FIXING SHIT.


[28-Apr-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently the one thing conservative justices aren't on board with is completely contradicting neoliberalism just to spite liberals.


[28-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
8-1


[28-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
wowee


[28-Apr-20 07:56 PM] byte[]#2610
as for neoliberalism https://i.redd.it/xd32kfazzjv41.jpg

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[28-Apr-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Apr-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
why would he


[28-Apr-20 08:16 PM] illumnious#7938
@Nebbie okay there is any other states protesting against the stay at home order


[28-Apr-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
> why would he
@byte[]  he doesn’t give a shit


[28-Apr-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1255197250923397121?s=21

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⚠️THREAD: While Nancy Pelosi was leveraging hardworking Americans' struggles for her radical agenda, small business owners were begging Democrats to stop blocking Paycheck Protection Program funding.

Here's what small business owners had to say to Nancy⬇️
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[28-Apr-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well atleast the website they;re touting admits republicans are whipped right in their name


[28-Apr-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/states-reopen-economies-beaches-during-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-4

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Here are the states reopening their beaches, beauty salons, and bow...
Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina were the first to reopen parts of their economies, and more have joined them since.
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[28-Apr-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Apr-20 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/1254911777021853698

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Congrats, everyone.  We invented the Holy Roman Empire.
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[28-Apr-20 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pence-visit-mayo-clinic-learn-testing-moonshot-70374812

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Pence to visit Mayo Clinic to learn about testing 'moonshot'
Vice President Mike Pence has an appointment at Minnesota’s Mayo Clinic on Tuesday to learn about a new coronavirus testing “moonshot.”
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[28-Apr-20 09:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Apr-20 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pence just trying to die it seems


[28-Apr-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if pence dies, does someone else become VP?


[28-Apr-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or is replacement only a thing if trump dies


[28-Apr-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
AMENDMENT XXV - Passed by Congress July 6, 1965. Ratified February 10, 1967.

    Note: Article II, section 1, of the Constitution was affected by the 25th amendment.

Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.


[28-Apr-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who would that be given that the houses are split


[28-Apr-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would probably end up being trump trying to force through soemone controversial


[28-Apr-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only for it to deadend itself as the hosue gets a say in it instead of just the senate


[28-Apr-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495054-hillary-clinton-to-endorse-joe-biden-reports

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Hillary Clinton endorses Joe Biden
Hillary Clinton endorsed Joe Biden’s bid for the White House on Tuesday, making her the latest party leader to throw her support behind the presumptive Democratic nominee.
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[28-Apr-20 11:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665555087782969355/704767568463921152/20200428_105540.jpg

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[28-Apr-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
surprisingly, typos happen, and reviews/corrections are probably harder when everyone's working alone in their homes


[28-Apr-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/local-companies/2020/04/26/publicly-traded-dallas-hotel-group-says-its-keeping-126-million-in-small-business-rescue-loans/

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Publicly traded Dallas hotel group says it’s keeping $126 million i...
A Dallas group of publicly traded hotel companies described as the Paycheck Protection Program’s biggest beneficiary says it’s keeping $126 million in...
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[28-Apr-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
the pic looks fitting


[28-Apr-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
like true sociopaths would


[28-Apr-20 11:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I don't wish to invoke karma, but how many of them are getting corona from that interaction


[28-Apr-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
None, that's from years 2018


[28-Apr-20 11:32 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh


[28-Apr-20 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some companies like to get their time under the limelight by being there when the NYSE bell rings on their first day of public trading


[28-Apr-20 11:40 PM] byte[]#2610
a lot do


[29-Apr-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Commemorate the moment they sold their souls to the line


[29-Apr-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these are very cursed individuals


[29-Apr-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or a very cursed hive mind?


[29-Apr-20 12:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yes.


[29-Apr-20 01:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Perhaps the solution resides in an eschatological apocalyptism which does not involve the fantasy of the symbolic Last Judgment in which all past accounts will be settled; to refer to another of Benjamin's metaphors, the task is "merely" to stop the train of history which, left to its own course, leads to a precipice. (Communism is thus not the light at the end of the tunnel, that is, the happy final outcome of a long and arduous struggle-if anything, the light at the end of the tunnel is rather that of another train approaching us at full speed.) This is what a proper political act would be today: not so much to unleash a new movement, as to interrupt the present predominant movement. An act of "divine violence" would then mean pulling the emergency cord on the train of Historical Progress. In other words, one has to learn fully to accept that there is no big Other


[29-Apr-20 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
-Slavoj Zizek, First As Tragedy Then As Farce


[29-Apr-20 01:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
p 148-149


[29-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
so this guy is basicly Leftist Peterson.


[29-Apr-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
wonderful.


[29-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
With gumballs in his mouth


[29-Apr-20 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
He also knows his stuff, unlike Peterson, and is guaranteed not a scam artist. And has been relatively insane for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

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Geographical limit between Balkan and Central Europe
Slavoj Zizek shows us the official geographical limit between Balkan and Central Europe!
From 'Liebe Dein Symptom wie Dich selbst':
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[29-Apr-20 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
He also ran for president of Slovenia in the nineties as the Communist candidate and got like, third place or something in a field of twelve.


[29-Apr-20 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
But here is a more serious talk of his: https://youtu.be/kugiufHh800

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SLAVOJ ŽIŽEK on the Desert of Post-Ideology | Master Class | Higher...
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Slavoj Žižek, the internationally renowned philosopher and cultural critic featured in the Sophie Fiennes-directed The Pervert's Guide to Ideology and The Pervert's Guide to Cinema, delivers a lecture entitled "Welcome to the De...
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[29-Apr-20 01:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
When he and Peterson met to debate he basically roasted Peterson because he came to the stage unprepared is fuck. In essence, he crawled out of his trashcan and roasted the Canadian lobster so fucking hard he got addicted to Benzos and died.


[29-Apr-20 01:22 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc Peterson's father died and he ended up depressed and addicted to benzos


[29-Apr-20 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
The joke is Peterson went to Hell because of Zizek because the timing was after the debate, where he basically went quiet for what felt like a long time.


[29-Apr-20 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's when it was revealed he suddenly went into his health crisis.


[29-Apr-20 01:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
But anyways, since I'm on the subject here's how Zizek continues after the earlier quotation:

> ...fully to accept that there is no big Other-or, as Badiou succinctly puts it: 
> "... the simplest definition of God and of religion lies in the idea that truth and meaning are one and the same thing. The death of God is the end of the idea that posits truth and meaning as the same thing. And I would add that the death of Communism also implies the separation between meaning and truth as far as history is concerned. "The meaning of history" has two meanings: on the one hand "orientation;' history goes somewhere; and then history has a meaning, which is the history of human emancipation by way of the proletariat, etc. In fact, the entire age of Communism was a period where the conviction that it was possible to take rightful political decisions existed; we were, at that moment, driven by the meaning of history . . .. Then the death of Communism becomes the second death of God but in the territory of history."
> We should thus ruthlessly abandon the prejudice that the linear time of evolution is "on our side:' that History is "working for us" like the famous old mole digging under the earth, doing the work of the Cunning of Reason. Should we then conceive of history as an open process in which we are offered a choice? Within this logic, history determines only the alternatives we face, the terms of the choice, but not the choice itself. At each moment of time, there are multiple possibilities waiting to be realized; once one of them is actualized, others are cancelled. The supreme case of such an agent of historical time is the Leibnizian God who created the best possible world: before
> creation, he had in mind the entire panoply of possible worlds, and his decision consisted in choosing the best among these options. Here, possibility precedes choice: the choice is a choice among possibilities.


[29-Apr-20 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Even this notion of "open" history, however, is inadequate. What is unthinkable within this horizon of linear historical evolution is the notion of a choice or act which retroactively opens up its own possibility: the idea that the emergence of the radically New retroactively changes the past-not the actual past of course (we are not in science fiction), but past possibilities (or, to put it in more formal terms, the value of modal propositions about the past). I have referred elsewhere to Jean-Pierre Dupuy's claim that, if we are to confront adequately the threat of (social or environmental) catastrophe, we need to break out of this "historical" notion of temporality: we have to introduce a new notion of time. Dupuy calls this time the "time of a project;' of a closed circuit between the past and the future: the future is causally produced by our acts in the past, while the way we act is determined by our anticipation of the future and our reaction to this anticipation:
> 
> "The catastrophic event is inscribed into the future as destiny, for sure, but also as a contingent accident: it could not have taken place, even if, in futur anterieur, it appears as necessary ... if an outstanding event takes place, a catastrophe, for example, it could not not have taken place; nonetheless, insofar as it did not take place, it is not inevitable. It is thus the event's actualization-the fact that it takes place which retroactively creates its necessity."


[29-Apr-20 01:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
> If-accidentally-an event takes place, it creates the preceding chain which makes it appear inevitable: this, and not commonplaces on how underlying necessity expresses itself in and through the accidental play of appearances, is in nuce the Hegelian dialectic of contingency and necessity. In this sense, although we are determined by destiny, we are nonetheless free to choose our destiny. According to Dupuy, this is also how we should approach the ecological crisis: not to appraise "realistically" the possibilities of catastrophe, but to accept it as Destiny in the precise Hegelian sense-if the catastrophe happens, one can say that its occurrence was decided even before it took place. Destiny and free action (to block the "if") thus go hand in hand: at its most radical, freedom is the freedom to change one's Destiny.
> 
> This, then, is how Dupuy proposes to confront the disaster: we
> should first perceive it as our fate, as unavoidable, and then, projecting ourselves into it, adopting its standpoint, we should retroactively insert into its past (the past of the future) counterfactual possibilities ("If we had done this and that, the calamity that we are now experiencing would not have occurred!") upon which we then act today. We have to accept that, at the level of possibilities, our future is doomed, that the catastrophe will take place, that it is our destiny-and then, against the background of this acceptance, mobilize ourselves to perform the act which will change destiny itself and thereby insert a new possibility into the past. Paradoxically, the only way to prevent the disaster is to accept it as inevitable. For Badiou too, the time of the fidelity to an event is the futur anterieur: overtaking oneself vis-a.-vis the future, one acts now as if the future one wants to bring about were already here.


[29-Apr-20 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
> What this means is that one should fearlessly rehabilitate the idea of preventive action (the "pre-emptive strike"), much abused in the "war on terror": if we postpone our action until we have full knowledge of the catastrophe, we will have acquired that knowledge only when it is too late. That is to say, the certainty on which an act relies is not a matter of knowledge, but a matter of belief: a true act is never a strategic intervention in a transparent situation of which we have full knowledge; on the contrary, the true act fills in the gap in our knowledge. This insight, of course, undermines the very foundations of "scientific socialism:' the notion of an emancipatory process guided by scientific knowledge. Badiou recently proposed that the time has come to revoke Plato's banishment of the poets from the city and to enact a reconciliation of poetry and thought. But maybe, in view of the recent support of a number of poets for "ethnic cleansing" (viz. Radovan Karadzic), one should retain, reinforce even, Plato's misgivings about poetry, and rather endorse another break with Plato: namely, abandon his notion of philosopher-kings. One should do this not on account of the standard liberal warning about "totalitarian" Leaders who know better than ordinary people themselves what's good for them, but for a more formal reason: the reference to the big Other puts the Leader in the position of the "subj ect supposed to know:' a subject whose activity is grounded in full knowledge (of the "laws of history:' etc.)-the path is thereby open to the madness of, for example, celebrating Stalin as the greatest linguist, economist, philosopher, and so on. The moment the "big Other" falls, the Leader can no longer claim a privileged relationship to Knowledge-he becomes an idiot like everyone else.


[29-Apr-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://selforganizedseminar.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/zizek_-tragedy_farce.pdf


[29-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
3deep5me.


[29-Apr-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
he approaches the 'Era of Communism' as a thing that existed or could have existed


[29-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that alone kind of ruins it


[29-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where does the ASPCA get the money to run 4 minute long ads on prime time?


[29-Apr-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/495150-cruz-to-introduce-bill-blocking-dod-help-for-studios-that-accommodate-chinese

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[29-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Under the bill, studios that change their movies to show in China would be blocked from receiving help from the Pentagon."


[29-Apr-20 01:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Take a skeleton out of your movie, you're SoL if a hacker steals all of your IP.


[29-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
no, the Pentagon help is monetary, material and 'approval'


[29-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate Cruz


[29-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that makes sense to me


[29-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
they won't protect you either way once China steals your shit


[29-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Movies often get free access and support from the military for showing military hardware, extras, consultants, etc


[29-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
I've read a long time ago the not-at-all suprising thing that Pentagon tends to boicott the movies which show things unfavourable to the 'World Army of Peace, Liberators and Protectors' image.


[29-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's ofc free because it's mostly propaganda


[29-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
this is what that bill is about.


[29-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So it makes sense that if you want to do propaganda for China, you're not getting free access to the US' propaganda stuff

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[29-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah all the early Marvel movies were made with government assistence up to Avengers, Hasbro used it a lot too with Transformers


[29-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Godzilla 2014 is my favorite for this though because everything is about how cool the US military is except they come off as incredibly stupid when soliders watch G take multiple tank shots and missle strikes and not care and keep shooting their M-4's at him


[29-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah bro that 5.56mm is going to accomplish what 120mm couldn't


[29-Apr-20 02:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/hashtag/bbcpanorama?lang=en

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[29-Apr-20 02:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000hr3y/panorama-has-the-government-failed-the-nhs

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Panorama - Has the Government Failed the NHS?
The delays and mistakes that may have put the lives of NHS staff at risk.
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[29-Apr-20 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1254835404127326208


[29-Apr-20 02:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1254834092266455040

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#Panorama - Last year, the govt's own advisors warned that gowns were needed in the stockpile.... none were bought. The govt says it's been working day & night to battle against #coronavirus, but that effort would have been easier if the basics had been in the stockpile. http...
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[29-Apr-20 02:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Delivered a billion items of PPE to health workers. Counts single gloves as a set of PPE. 
Good to see the UK providing gear for their one handed doctors.
🇬🇧 :wheeze:


[29-Apr-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
like father like son


[29-Apr-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The absolute hubris on preparation decisions by these idiots is amazing.


[29-Apr-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf, just read about mitch the bitch's "business liability" bs


[29-Apr-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a very millennial or even Zoomer thing to say, but people shouldn't be in gov't making decisions who couldn't handle Minecraft in Hardcore mode tbh.


[29-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like I imagine if you got them all actually competent at the mechanics, they'd die within 5 minutes of going to either the Nether or the End.


[29-Apr-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
ok zoomer


[29-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They wouldn't even get to the Nether


[29-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They'd die from falling into a ravine they they've seen before


[29-Apr-20 02:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...and that's why I don't play on Hardcore 😶


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, just 1h into the game in the middle of a cave with no torches left, they'd scream about "wait, you need *food?!*" and die


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
(there is nothing in Minecraft that you can't get a potion or some other item to deal with)


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Better yet


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They run past 20 melons


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the rarest blokks, and a food item


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
go in a cave


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
don't light anything up, just make swords and start smelting iron


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Had 41 levels at one point and I basically just sauntered into a ravine


[29-Apr-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they *get lost*


[29-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
die of hunger with a stakk of rotten flesh in their inventory going downwards cause they saw light and assumed it was the sky.


[29-Apr-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Marukomuru you're supposed to keep building blokks and a water bukket on your hotbar at all times, to prevent fall damage.

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[29-Apr-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/495121-mcconnell-infrastructure-will-not-be-in-next-coronavirus-relief-bill

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McConnell: Infrastructure will not be in next coronavirus relief bill
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Tuesday that infrastructure will not be part of Congress's next coronavirus relief package, even as President Trump has pushed for it to be included.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_022520gn2_lead.jpg


[29-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one time McConnell resists Trump, and it's to screw over states not called Kentucky.


[29-Apr-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[29-Apr-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How're the prospects looking in KY on Mitch vs that USAF pilot?


[29-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still pretty well towards Mitch.


[29-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ech


[29-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite his unpopularity, the idea of putting a chekk next to anyone with a "D" is abhorrent to people in Kentucky.


[29-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also do note, what I'm implying here is Mitch will funnel infrastructure money to *his* state


[29-Apr-20 02:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
his wife is Trump's transportation secretary


[29-Apr-20 02:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's there so Mitch can directly alter where the money goes to bolster his own state and thus get more votes.


[29-Apr-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>Trump gets the Blue Angels to do flybies over cities as a tribute to healthcare workers
>tens of thousands of people go outside and congregate in order to see them


[29-Apr-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
More sacrifices to The Line.


[29-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cook Political Report ratings

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[29-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McSally, Gardner, and Collins are definitely fucked.


[29-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But so is Jones.


[29-Apr-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So with only three IIRC Biden would need to win


[29-Apr-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
SOLID D

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[29-Apr-20 03:23 AM] illumnious#7938
dumb bitch mode 101 https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1255219612473589761

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VP Pence does not wear a mask during Tuesday’s visit to the Mayo Clinic, which is requiring all patients and visitors to wear a face covering or mask in effort to slow the spread of coronavirus. https://t.co/qIddFN9UTW
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[29-Apr-20 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Mayo Clinic


[29-Apr-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
haha


[29-Apr-20 03:25 AM] illumnious#7938
that name


[29-Apr-20 03:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[29-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh we've got the numerology folks around here now too?


[29-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
awesome, I hadn't heard much out of them in a while


[29-Apr-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_squints_


[29-Apr-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the best part is


[29-Apr-20 03:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
that's not even 19


[29-Apr-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[29-Apr-20 03:31 AM] illumnious#7938
wow is that the fuckery gang?


[29-Apr-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
*open your eyes*


[29-Apr-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck


[29-Apr-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:tempsurprise:


[29-Apr-20 03:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Open your EYE～ EYYEE～ EYYYYEEEE～～


[29-Apr-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't need to open them


[29-Apr-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have special eyes

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[29-Apr-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
they can't even math right how did they get jobs??


[29-Apr-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
nepotism


[29-Apr-20 03:36 AM] jlun2#8758
where's my nepotism :sad:


[29-Apr-20 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
dude that's 18 not 19


[29-Apr-20 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
man these trumpist are dumb


[29-Apr-20 03:38 AM] jlun2#8758
ah I remember COVID-18 and the great 2018 shutdown


[29-Apr-20 03:39 AM] illumnious#7938
ah yes the Goverment shutdown because you know, a fucking fence


[29-Apr-20 03:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm thinking about whether the picture is PSed


[29-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I mean, maybe they're stupid, but they can't be _that_ stupid


[29-Apr-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's... unscientific


[29-Apr-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
they injected too much bleach


[29-Apr-20 03:42 AM] illumnious#7938
yeah, that's fucking photoshopped

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[29-Apr-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That makes sence


[29-Apr-20 03:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But that "COVID-19 is a lie" in the background seems not to be PSed


[29-Apr-20 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938
it's not but it's funny as fuck


[29-Apr-20 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938

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[29-Apr-20 03:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang ppl now think COVID 19 is caused by g5 towers so they're kinda dumb


[29-Apr-20 03:46 AM] illumnious#7938
they're retarded as fuck like I said


[29-Apr-20 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[29-Apr-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are also protesters calling nurses a virus as well


[29-Apr-20 03:57 AM] illumnious#7938
okay wat


[29-Apr-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/1eZwEA5.mp4

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[29-Apr-20 04:06 AM] illumnious#7938
still crazy tho


[29-Apr-20 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the protestors get mroe repulsive with every new image and clip...


[29-Apr-20 04:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MF6_Ngxr0k

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Dr Birx Off the Rails, Cannot Be Trusted
--Unfortunately, Dr. Deborah Birx, who heads the White House Coronavirus Task Force, has become a vector for disinformation and should be considered a Trump propagandist
😊 Get 15% off the world’s most comfortable t-shirt at https://davidpakman.com/cuts

Watch an actual doctor ...
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[29-Apr-20 04:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The protestors are *literally* 4chan


[29-Apr-20 04:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
If there weren't laws on indecent exposure, their kids would be dressed as Klonoa


[29-Apr-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
they look a bit too old to be channers tho


[29-Apr-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) > listen, we can have a decent conversation without fighting


[29-Apr-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
lmao


[29-Apr-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i love it when conservatards go defensive after people or themselves become somewhat aware of their ridiculous behavior


[29-Apr-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Chan started in 04


[29-Apr-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
it's entirely possible for a 40yo to be a channer


[29-Apr-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Chan culture was around for longer. Moot visited other Chans before starting his.


[29-Apr-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
it is immortal


[29-Apr-20 05:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
The story is either because he was banned from an earlier Chan and/or SomethingAwful for being too weird even for them


[29-Apr-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He didn't like SA's rules and culture and wanted a free-form weeb board


[29-Apr-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To be fair, SA is a cesspool that rivals 4chan or even surpasses it, place is full of airheaded narcissists and truly toxic people, with a good mix of weak willed sycophants


[29-Apr-20 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://tenor.com/view/who-is-media-this-4chan-gif-5485318

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[29-Apr-20 05:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1255284698860924928

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I'M QUITTING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

A party that can so easily dismiss sexual assault allegations and the groping of girls.

A party that caged kids BEFORE Trump.

A party that rehabilitated Bush, a war criminal.

...is a party without a moral compass that cannot defeat the GO...
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[29-Apr-20 05:33 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought 3rd parties were doomed in US tho


[29-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
they are, maybe this will kill the DNC but it'll just be replaced by another party


[29-Apr-20 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
it's happened before but not often


[29-Apr-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like dems are in like for harakiri again unless they dump Biden and choose, fuck, Warren?


[29-Apr-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
everyone's out of the race except joe


[29-Apr-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally no one else *can* get the democratic nomination at this point


[29-Apr-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's still some stuff stuck to the bottom of the barrel but all serious contenders dropped out and endorsed biden


[29-Apr-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's like there's a third party already within the democratic party


[29-Apr-20 05:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
the two party system isn't that recent a thing iirc


[29-Apr-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
it has its roots back in the federalist-jeffersonian dispute


[29-Apr-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
srsly, what happens if Biden drops out / dies in a mysterious accident?


[29-Apr-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie, or Cuomo.


[29-Apr-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is there defined a process, though?


[29-Apr-20 05:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Thread https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1255216787349819394?s=21

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Trump just repeated his obscene lie that Ivanka Trump "has created many jobs."

"I think you got up to almost 15 million people," Trump said -- a total that's more than twice the entire number created during his term before the coronavirus hit https://t.co/IdZXY8oeuG
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[29-Apr-20 05:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Apr-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/495176-coronavirus-death-toll-in-us-now-exceeds-that-of-vietnam-war

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Coronavirus death toll in US now exceeds that of Vietnam War
The coronavirus death toll in the U.S. officially exceeds the number of fatalities during the Vietnam War.
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[29-Apr-20 08:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Number Big Life Good


[29-Apr-20 08:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...wait no, not that number


[29-Apr-20 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Number Big Line Good


[29-Apr-20 12:44 PM] Opponent#3498
```Is there defined a process, though?```


[29-Apr-20 12:45 PM] Opponent#3498
I would be entirely unsuprised if the situation where all the primary candidates are one foot in the grave was not, in fact, forseen when the rules were written :D


[29-Apr-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
also, re: 'not as deadly as we thought'


[29-Apr-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
well, the pessimistic projections suggested 2m dead.


[29-Apr-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it's 60k.


[29-Apr-20 12:46 PM] Opponent#3498
the guy might be scum but he's right; the hysteria was misplaced.


[29-Apr-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Apr-20 01:06 PM] illumnious#7938
-trumpist


[29-Apr-20 01:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the number is still rising, and may be about to spike exponentially because america is run by dumbasses


[29-Apr-20 01:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hysteria wasn't overblown or misplaced, if we had kept everything going as normal, we would probably be at the predicted numbers by now


[29-Apr-20 01:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump admin asks intel agencies to find out whether China, WHO hid info on coronavirus https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-asks-intelligence-agencies-find-out-whether-china-who-n1194451

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Trump administration asks intelligence agencies to find out whether...
A specific "tasking" seeking information about the outbreak's early days was sent last week to the Defense Intelligence Agency. The CIA got similar instructions.
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[29-Apr-20 01:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[29-Apr-20 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
he's probably not wrong.


[29-Apr-20 01:49 PM] Opponent#3498
it's that old calendar page moment.


[29-Apr-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-donald-trump-has-destroyed-the-country-he-promised-to-make-great-again-1.4235928

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Subscriber Only: Fintan O’Toole: Donald Trump has destroyed the cou...
The world has loved, hated and envied the US, Now, for the first time, we pity it
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[29-Apr-20 02:49 PM] Opponent#3498
accurate.


[29-Apr-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're stuck with the slow oompa loompa who somehow managed to take over the chocolate factory


[29-Apr-20 03:10 PM] illumnious#7938
As always


[29-Apr-20 04:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/u2oBIYv5ry?amp=1

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Trump says 'worst days' of coronavirus are 'behind us'
President Trump on Tuesday suggested "the worst days" of the coronavirus pandemic are likely over as he welcomed a group of small business owners to the White House who have benefitted from an emergency loan program he signed into law last month.
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[29-Apr-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who cares if people get sick and die horribly while hospitals flood with patients they;re underequipped for and hundreds of people spread the disease around with horrifying protests of idiocy as long as this "small" board of directors gets billions of dollars, amirite?

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[29-Apr-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/justin-amash-president.html

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Justin Amash Moves Toward a Third-Party Bid for President
Mr. Amash, an independent congressman from Michigan who left the Republican Party last year, said he was exploring running as a Libertarian, adding new volatility to the race.
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[29-Apr-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1255514560561328128?s=21

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Joe Biden is using Crooked Hillary as a character reference.

That's it. That's the tweet.
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[29-Apr-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> That's it. That's the tweet.


[29-Apr-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Understandable, have a great day


[29-Apr-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/495196-us-economy-shrank-at-48-percent-annualized-rate-in-first-quarter-amid

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US economy contracts at 4.8 percent rate, most since Great Recession
The U.S.
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[29-Apr-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/495221-court-orders-halt-to-sales-of-silver-product-touted-as-covid-19-cure

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Court orders halt to sales of silver product touted as coronavirus ...
A federal court on Wednesday issued an injunction halting the sales of a silver product that has been fraudulently touted as a coronavirus cure.
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[29-Apr-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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Oh that...
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[29-Apr-20 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-Apr-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
when a terf hits it right on the money https://i.redd.it/omkyksw4tnv41.jpg

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[29-Apr-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Congrats, terf, you accidentally discovered gender theory


[29-Apr-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
devil's in the details, as always.


[29-Apr-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
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[29-Apr-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[29-Apr-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guessing he heard he'd start actually losing money.


[29-Apr-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elon fundamentally doesn't care about his workforce.


[29-Apr-20 08:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Mar 19 - Apr 28. At least he lasted more than a month. :shrugpony:


[29-Apr-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-coronavirus-great-success-story-rocking-july-reopen-economy-2020-4

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Jared Kushner mocks the 'eternal-lockdown crowd,' says he hopes the...
Kushner leaned into optimism, saying that instead of focusing on why testing took so long "you should look at how did we do this so quickly."
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[29-Apr-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have yet to see you do anything quickly, but do go on


[29-Apr-20 08:14 PM] Yuri#4154
I already knew Musk was a cunt, but holy fuck


[29-Apr-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's a Silicon Valley type.


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Elon Musk has been a covid-19 denier from the start for some reason


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberal to the core, just wants legal weed and gay marriage with his anarcho-capitalism.


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's because he can't keep his companies going like this


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he'd be asked to provide PPE for them.


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He sees it as the gov't intervening in the market.


[29-Apr-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a big no-no.


[29-Apr-20 08:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Guess he couldn't get his gigafactory 100% robot-operated in time


[29-Apr-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he'd vote for Bloomberg.


[29-Apr-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's fundamentally conservative, just not the "god, guns, and no gays" variety.


[29-Apr-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's the "America's great because it makes me money and doesn't ask too many questions where it comes from" variety.


[29-Apr-20 08:18 PM] Yuri#4154
I checked out the tweet. One of the people that replied agreeing with him was that one nazi who drank his own piss

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[29-Apr-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
what


[29-Apr-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so money is their god instead, and their god says "gays are marketable lets accept it"


[29-Apr-20 08:20 PM] Honahue#0656
he got a business degree from the same school Trump did of course he's just a sleezy car salesman


[29-Apr-20 08:20 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm only following him for the starlink and starship stuff 😛


[29-Apr-20 08:23 PM] Yuri#4154
This guy is a literal nazi

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[29-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Yuri#4154
Who drank his own piss


[29-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire founding ideal of conservatism, @jlun2.


[29-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The market is seen as a replacement for the monarchy.


[29-Apr-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
A way to keep aristocrats on top without all the noble titles.


[29-Apr-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It creates an uneasy alliance between "I hate gays and if the gov't has power over the market and culture in general, they can allow the gays to prosper" and types like Elon who are "I don't care about gays, but the gov't having power over the market would rob me of my money"


[29-Apr-20 08:25 PM] Honahue#0656
>smartest man in America
>car salesman with a BS in physics
BS in physics isn't easy but it's not smartest man hard either


[29-Apr-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elon Musk has more than that. He used to program video games before he got into rokketry.


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri ty, but I'm not touching that in fear of becoming neo nazi from reading that


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is likely where he got his beliefs.


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley is full of people like him.


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
I just want silicon valley to remote work :sadface:


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
but for some reason you need to physically move there and kill your finances to work on those companies


[29-Apr-20 08:26 PM] Honahue#0656
you literally need minimal education to programs video games, people entirely self teach themselves fairly regularly


[29-Apr-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue i was born too early rip


[29-Apr-20 08:27 PM] Yuri#4154
I hope this will make some of Musk's more cult-y supporters realise he isn't the messiah


[29-Apr-20 08:27 PM] Yuri#4154
But I'm not holding my breath


[29-Apr-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
no drag and drop video game making bck then + also at the period where game consoles were becoming increasingly complex, so need to read up tons of shit to understnd how the hell do i draw a circle


[29-Apr-20 08:28 PM] Honahue#0656
nah no one cares he called a vet a pedo for moving to the phillipines anymore after the guy called Musk an idiot for his child drowning tube


[29-Apr-20 08:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
> you literally need minimal education to programs video games, people entirely self teach themselves fairly regularly
@Honahue 

I'm literally in EaW. There's people there who join and teach themselves to code so they can do coding - pioneer - work all the time. Granted, everyone says Paradox code is piss easy to figure out and do, Clauswitz is hardly a coding language. But this sort of things happens and the internet means there is no shortage of the modern ewuivelant to mail-in technical courses from the forties and fifties.


[29-Apr-20 08:36 PM] Honahue#0656
kids were making games on Commadore 64's it's easier now but it wasn't prohibatively difficult in the 80's either


[29-Apr-20 08:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk EaW?


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
EaW* 

Equestria at War


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
oh ty


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
At Hearts of Iron mod.


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
thought it was a fanfic lol


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Literally got in it because one of the project leads recognized me for my art and badgered me to join


[29-Apr-20 08:39 PM] Honahue#0656
it was prohibitively expensive but Musks parents own an emeralb mine in Arpithaid South Africa


[29-Apr-20 08:40 PM] jlun2#8758
checking other's source code usually baffles the hell out of me since i have no idea which file is the one with the functions i'm trying to reference


[29-Apr-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
and everyone uses very nested classes :sad:


[29-Apr-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1255479750593859584?s=19

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This is stunning: Nearly half of the Q1 decline in GDP can be attributed to healthcare, which is presumably delaying of elective procedures.

It's a strange reality that in the midst of a pandemic, we have a healthcare-led recession.
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[29-Apr-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1255483465035890690?s=19


[29-Apr-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
not strange in merica


[29-Apr-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
THE SPENDING BEHIND THE SLAUGHTER


[29-Apr-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/west-point-cadets-returning-for-trump-coronavirus-testing-2020-4

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'About 60 percent' of West Point cadets forced to return for Trump'...
A partial audio recording of an instructor's video call with graduating cadets shows the school plans to conduct extensive testing ahead of the ceremony
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[29-Apr-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
LMAO are people really pointing to a tweet Musk made of quoting fucking Ataturk


[29-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I only know about Ataturk because of Turkey's absolutely batshit insane law about him


[29-Apr-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Elon isn't tony stark, he's just a more competent justin hammer


[29-Apr-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if saying "Washington wasn't that great, I bet he didn't really cut down a cherry tree" was a federal crime


[29-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what basically exists in Turkey


[29-Apr-20 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ASegals/status/1255166501591678976

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https://twitter.com/ASegals/status/1255166501591678976
This pic was taken in Georgia after they opened up against the advice of public health officials. 

It’s the Rosetta Stone for understanding MAGA boomers. They are the protagonists of reality and would prefer you to die rather than inconvenience them in the slightest
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[29-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
'protagonist of reality' huh


[29-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't sound half bad


[29-Apr-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a shit eating grin if I ever saw one


[29-Apr-20 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Hi Karen, you're internet-infamous now


[29-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How does this restaurant even make money


[29-Apr-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Apr-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
"brotherhood of bernard" nice


[29-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk is basically the "I FREAKING LOVE SCIENCE" people on Reddit/FB who would rather spend trillions of dollars so people can drink recycled pee on Mars for three years than actually do anything on Earth


[29-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And most importantly, see doing anything on Earth as a waste of time


[29-Apr-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking https://mashable.com/2015/04/30/penis-rocket-bezos/
it's a space penis measuring contest

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Jeff Bezos' new rocket looks more like a penis than other rockets
Blue Origin, a space company owned by Jeff Bezos, launched its very phallic rocket on April 29.
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[29-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rocket 69, ready to blast off to Uranus


[29-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking considering the 'superrail' project and the armored car thing, it's not that he doesn't nessesarily _want_ to


[29-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's called a subway/high speed rail, and cheap manufacturing methods to make cheaper cars.


[29-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
KISS doesn't exist for Musk.


[29-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, whatever they're called, they're pretty damn awful


[29-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't the case of _want_


[29-Apr-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
the world might be better off should he never touch this stuff.


[29-Apr-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make shitty versions of things that already exist and call everyone that disagrees with you a pedophile.


[29-Apr-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking high prices and not paying its waitresses.


[29-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mix with extreme tax cuts and low wages for the other workers.


[29-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Restaurants are basically universally scams.


[29-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is standardized so you just buy the equipment and try to make sure health inspectors don't show up


[29-Apr-20 09:52 PM] Honahue#0656
cause venture capitalism only care about speculation on what can be patented so everything people sell to them is Fucking Magic but there's plent of Actuall Machines around that would solve those problems it's just they are old solution that can't be profited from


[29-Apr-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Got money coming in from the mob? Just report that you sold more burgers.


[29-Apr-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I hear, it's way easier to launder mob money with a service based business than a goods based one


[29-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh wow, you gave a lot of expensive massages this year, guess you did well"


[29-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
vs


[29-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Honahue#0656
and them you have billionaire philantropy which is just "I started a non-profit for tax reason" that do dumb shit instead of solving a problem


[29-Apr-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wait, how did you sell a million dollars in burgers when you have one tiny grill"


[29-Apr-20 09:55 PM] Honahue#0656
like Bill Gates and AIDS in africa, he has 100 billion dollars he could legit start a supply chain for the prophalatic meds instead of circumsizing them all cause it offers marginal deacreases in transmition


[29-Apr-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ScottImmordino/status/1255231572233551872?s=19

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Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds (R) said in her state, it will be considered a “voluntary quit” if an employee refuses to return to work once businesses reopen, thereby losing access to unemployment benefits.

A similar situation will soon play out in Texas. https://t.co/qGmapbLBzi
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[29-Apr-20 09:57 PM] Honahue#0656
if you're going to be a dick about hording money like that at least do something cool with it like building a 1:1 working Gundam


[29-Apr-20 09:58 PM] Honahue#0656
or funding sequels to a movie you like but flopped


[29-Apr-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue for some reason atm its mostly cars and yacthes


[29-Apr-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stimulus-checks-signed-trump-letters-cares-coronavirus-impact-payments-praise-2020-4

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Millions of people who received a stimulus check are also getting a...
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[29-Apr-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-gop-bet-it-all-on-trump-now-theyre-paying-the-price?ref=author

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[29-Apr-20 11:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> They are in serious danger of losing not just the presidency but also the U.S. Senate, in 2020.


[29-Apr-20 11:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They won't lose a damn thing. The Electoral College™ will save them


[29-Apr-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wont save anything if all the people who trigger it are fucking dead


[30-Apr-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now most of them are spreading the disease around in large crowds all over eachother while yelling about how much of a hoax it is, and how tyrannical not being allowed to get a haircut/manicure is


[30-Apr-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other ones live in most of the states forcing themselves open to kill worker rights and the ability to sue employers for comp


[30-Apr-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
US Senate isn't subject to the EC


[30-Apr-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Senators are directly elected (see 17th amendment)


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[30-Apr-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[30-Apr-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
if gop base loses wont it jsut make them more beserk


[30-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-Apr-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tara, just do the voices and stop.


[30-Apr-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
potato chips every meal


[30-Apr-20 12:48 AM] jlun2#8758
yes


[30-Apr-20 12:50 AM] Honahue#0656
kinda? the thing is rugged individualist have a hard time organizing, the TEA party and Operation Gridlock weren't organic events they were astroturffed "movements" paid for by people like the Koch brothers and I think Gridlock was someone connected to the DeVos family


[30-Apr-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
>just be figurehead don't be political


[30-Apr-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
this is a dogshit take and you know it


[30-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of Tara's takes are incredibly misinformed.


[30-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Its is saying Tara's political views are a mess.


[30-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's the obsession with ancestry.com / 23&me?


[30-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Opposes Trump but for many of the wrong reasons.


[30-Apr-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Typical of the entertainment industry in general.


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Tara's just a Hollywood Liberal, she's fine with LGBT and veganism but she benifits massively from the status quo so she wouldn't want any of that changed


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why we'll never elect an actual Hollywood celebrity as president


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are people so bland that they need stories about their ancestors being beet farmers in 1300's bulgaria?


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Honahue#0656
we did


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Honahue#0656
his name was Reagan


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump was a C-lister in terms of fame


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So was Reagan, really


[30-Apr-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar deal with Elon really.


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hollywood just wants us to stop beating up gay people and beat up blakk people instead.


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now _that's_ a hot take


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
TSP, my favorite was the Irish Youtuber who paid $200 to get back "You are 100% Irish, not a single thing off the island in you"


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
(all while putting one blakk woman on a pedestal and saying "see we're not racist")


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think that was Conan Obrien, Its


[30-Apr-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is, gay people could be your son or cousin or such, as a white guy in Hollywood.


[30-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
With blakk people, that's only gonna happen if the family intermarries.


[30-Apr-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So wanting the wealth to stay with your own leads to not wanting actual equality.


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[30-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[30-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reagan didn't acknowledge AIDS until Rock Hudson said he had it


[30-Apr-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was what, 1985?


[30-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes they do need those stories


[30-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to prop up the facade of wanting equality.


[30-Apr-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
TBH


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything America did from like, 1950-1990 in terms of equality


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was just virtue signaling


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If their fans truly realized that they're not really diverse, it would lose them money.


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
it still is


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So they could say "Look, we're not as bad as the Soviets! We gave blacks rights! We respect privacy!" etc


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Honahue#0656
look at how many white feminist dropped metoo when Biden got accused


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
50s and 60s had real progress.


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reagan made sure it slowed to a halt.


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been virtue signalling ever since.


[30-Apr-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I need to watch Mrs. America


[30-Apr-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, actual equality is anathema to Silicon Valley and Hollywood.


[30-Apr-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would lower their wealth.


[30-Apr-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they will put 7 white women in a room and say "look, diversity!"


[30-Apr-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've got about a 50/50 to hav a female child, you don't hav such for blakk children.


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Something else that's interesting about Silicon Valley


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is how Asian-Americans are fighting back against being lumped in with whites


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they really want is to just preserve all the current disparities domestically, but to bolster other countries so that sweatshops etc. don't exist so there's no reason for people to immigrate.


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Partially to fight the "model minority" stereotype and I assume, to remain a minority


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tokenism is really bad, note.


[30-Apr-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC a lot of Silicon Valley has "minority" mean "not white or Asian"


[30-Apr-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're only allowed one asian person in your movie because of it, then it can really cause problems for asian actors.


[30-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asians tend to get the treatment of being white for most purposes, but tokenized as well.


[30-Apr-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they like, aren't allowed their own culture.


[30-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Great for college, not so great I think for the workplace.


[30-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say "what is white culture exactly"


[30-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it's Natty Lite and Florida Man


[30-Apr-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of things, actually.


[30-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Primarily white culture is based around very specific types of parties for events, and how to behave at them.


[30-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things like Galas, Balls, Baby Showers


[30-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funerals, Weddings, etc.


[30-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
you're talking about American culture which is consumption based, you are the sum of your products


[30-Apr-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And most of it is about women dressing and acting a certain way, and men another.


[30-Apr-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, all these things are very expensive and business-oriented.


[30-Apr-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
What I'm getting at, @Itsthinking, is coworkers probably will simultaneously demand the asian guy act "normal" at their events, and that they be allowed to act that way at his.


[30-Apr-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he'll go to a wedding and everyone will be quiet until they get drunk in the afterparty, then they'll go to his Lunar New Year thing and bring their own wine and not hav a clue why it's in February.


[30-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And meanwhile, the Mexican guy is perhaps given excuses for different dress/behavior by them.


[30-Apr-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a huge problem, but it definitely could push people away.


[30-Apr-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note the hypocrisy, Its.


[30-Apr-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kind of the main problem with how Americans treat other cultures is that "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" is taken literally to mean *location* determines behavior.


[30-Apr-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So unless a minority builds its own entire community, white people won't alter behavior to match the culture around them.


[30-Apr-20 01:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so you are arguing that assimilating into the nation's greater culture is a bad thing and are advocating for ghettoization of ethnic enclaves?


[30-Apr-20 01:35 AM] Honahue#0656
have you stopped beating your wife?


[30-Apr-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/who-lauds-sweden-as-model-for-resisting-coronavirus-lockdown/?utm_source=reddit.com

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[30-Apr-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-Apr-20 01:51 AM] Honahue#0656
what are you doing Sweden


[30-Apr-20 01:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
The rightward shift of their Lassalian state system is completing the evolution.


[30-Apr-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[30-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
```TBH
Everything America did from like, 1950-1990 in terms of equality
Was just virtue signaling```


[30-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
they should just stop


[30-Apr-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
gays and infidels on the hanging tree.


[30-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Civil Rights wasn't but it also proves that the only way to get rights from the government is mass coordinated action


[30-Apr-20 01:56 AM] Opponent#3498
(or was it gays and niggers? well, w/e)


[30-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
you people should look around the world before complaining this fucking much.


[30-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
not just at how many precious brown people US kills for funzies.


[30-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
at how people actually live elsewhere.


[30-Apr-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
not just scandinavian socdem 'paradise'


[30-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah okay, the reason people live like that in other countries is because of American business intrests


[30-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I get wanting things to get better. I also get wanting more as you get stuff.


[30-Apr-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah but also no, not really.


[30-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah as in the world is really fucking close, for the last century+ with a bit of a break from WW1, some things are indeed intertwined.


[30-Apr-20 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
no, because all the other myriad reasons.


[30-Apr-20 02:01 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah cause it's not like 60% of chocolate comes from slave labor, or that Coltan an important mineral in electronics manufaacture comes from slave labor from central African nations or the many CIA operations to take down governments that would've nationalized industries that American industries profitted ffrom


[30-Apr-20 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Me: Sitting quietly to the side knowing of the natural trend for the free market to destroy markets to make way for the growth of other markets.

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[30-Apr-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Assimilation *itself* isn't good or bad, forcing people to make ghettos is bad, and it's what America does by absolutely demanding immediate assimilation.


[30-Apr-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Americans tend to not even change behavior much *in* said ghettos.


[30-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is a constant grinding away of the culture of other people and commoditization of what little they hav that is admired.


[30-Apr-20 02:06 AM] Honahue#0656
the ghettos were caused by redlining and racist laws real estate laws


[30-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
of course not, why would they. But assimilation or lack thereof isn't an american issue exclusively. Referring to, for instance, the situation in Russia. We seem to have it a bit better, for cultural reasons I think, not all of them good ones.


[30-Apr-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't assimilation is some novel thing America came up with, it's that America is extremely aggressive about it and doing so is problematic.


[30-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hollywood types are especially a problem because they wax poetic about differences...as they go on about how you should be exactly like them OR ELSE.


[30-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is part of why the reason why a lot of people don't really like legal immigration either


[30-Apr-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're not fine with someone coming here legally but not becoming generic WASP


[30-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
American immigration setups are absolutely nuts


[30-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
one of the easiest visas to get is for the entertainment industry


[30-Apr-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie it's so weird. americans preach individualism but want everyone to be like them


[30-Apr-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
||and they dont let me join their hivemind||


[30-Apr-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you're like, a kid going to a chess tournament for a week, SORRY NO KENYANS TODAY


[30-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 they preach self-reliance but can't live a month without a visit to a beauty salon. This is normal.


[30-Apr-20 02:12 AM] jlun2#8758
how is that sustainable


[30-Apr-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want "individualism" to mean "I choose TGI Fridays over Five Guys"


[30-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately meaningless choices and not really affecting society except to preserve status quo.


[30-Apr-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the Prussian Model.


[30-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very narrow range of what you can say, but the illusion of lively debate within it.


[30-Apr-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE DRESS IS BLUE AND GOLD etc.


[30-Apr-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> debate
isnt that just ppl online screeching about 1st world shit


[30-Apr-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, that's the illusion of lively debate


[30-Apr-20 02:15 AM] Honahue#0656
it's impossible for someone to come to america and not assimilate the culture
because they either do learn the language and get a job and intergrate into society or they refuse to and demand that other people cater to their whims despite not putting in any effort themselves which is quintisentially American


[30-Apr-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
then they become boomer


[30-Apr-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or forced to hide from the boomers


[30-Apr-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-threatened-sue-campaign-manager-brad-parscale-polls-2020-4

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[30-Apr-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495381-florida-to-start-allowing-businesses-to-reopen-monday

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Florida will allow some businesses to start reopening in parts of the state on Monday Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Wednesday.
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[30-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/lizburgh/status/1255287529324019712

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Well, I had planned to spend a good chunk of time reading Tara's old tweets to find ones that seemed to be written in a Russian accent. 

I only made it 2 weeks back before I ran out of space for more examples. 

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[30-Apr-20 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is some crazy shit


[30-Apr-20 02:54 AM] jlun2#8758
so twilight VA is russian?


[30-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, that's Tara Reade


[30-Apr-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The one that's accused Biden of sexual assault


[30-Apr-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
oh


[30-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, really unfortunate name, but I guess dated


[30-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know someone named Mike Scott


[30-Apr-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said life got better after The Office ended


[30-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also knew a Mike Hunt, no kidding


[30-Apr-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he went by Mike too, like wouldn't you at least go by Michael


[30-Apr-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, there is something funky about the way she writes sometimes but those "red flags" look awfully overblown to me. Like, half the stuff that's circled looks like run of the mill typos and I don't get what the purpose is in literally mspaint-ing a red flag on each and every tweet


[30-Apr-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to overwhelm fellow Karens so they don't question you.


[30-Apr-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so what am I to make of this? Lizburgh is overfitting and Tara is paranoid now that her life is under a microscope?


[30-Apr-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably.


[30-Apr-20 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I like the person who just replied with this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWy5_dIXgAEOkCW?format=png&name=small

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[30-Apr-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
technically true, but boy, this is not how you make your point. It'd be so easy to think Liz means we weren't putting refugees and (il)legal immigrants in inhumane conditions, rather than meaning that a politician used intentionally provocative language to influence how we think about that


[30-Apr-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/people4kam/status/1254999814720241664

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BREAKING: DC Metro Police have moved the police investigation involving Tara Reade's accusation to an "inactive" status
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[30-Apr-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Statute of limitations?


[30-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not credible


[30-Apr-20 04:06 AM] Midknight#9798
or inconsistent, changing narratives suggest deliberate duplicity


[30-Apr-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Reade told Fox News that she understood when she filed the complaint that the matter would not result in criminal charges."


[30-Apr-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which rather narrows down the motivation for filing the complaint I would think


[30-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
money's money after all.


[30-Apr-20 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
a lil bit of something something from your friendly neighbourhood GOP slash fund


[30-Apr-20 06:00 AM] Midknight#9798
"but... but... but only those vile traitorous foolish *Democrats* would stoop to baselessly slandering an opponent! Freedom loving true Americans are all about honorableness and family values! Yup, yessirree, gosh golly!"


[30-Apr-20 06:01 AM] Midknight#9798
okay now i'm never gonna get the mental image of Trump as Sombra and McConnel as Cozy Glow out of my head. ew, ew, ew


[30-Apr-20 06:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking Jesus Christ at all the liberals putting trust in the law and arguing the status change was legitimate


[30-Apr-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
liberals trust the law


[30-Apr-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
foolishly, because the law is not their ally


[30-Apr-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals want the law to be a tool to change society. Conservatives want the law merely to make examples out of undesirables. The latter is much easier to accomplish because it has no real measure of success and what it wants to do is easy.


[30-Apr-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
A toolbox vs. a hammer.


[30-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Law changes society and society changes the law.


[30-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want society to change.


[30-Apr-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There will be a point where arguing against a UBI will be as silly as say, arguing against an FDA existing, or public schools.


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's just an example


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
People argue against the FDA existing right now, in large numbers.


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want to preserve.


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to recreate.


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US actually has a really strict food safety and regulatory system


[30-Apr-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is a good thing


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you own a cow, you're not allowed to slaughter it yourself. You take it to a USDA slaughterhouse.


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people get botulism from gas station nachos anyways because businesses are run by scumbags seeking tax breaks.


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
where they slaughter it in the most unsanitary way possible


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's all done by undocumented migrant workers


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸


[30-Apr-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Workers elbow to elbow in the middle of a pandemic.


[30-Apr-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This just confirmed one thing to me


[30-Apr-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because people read The Jungle and their thought was "wow my food might hav a guy in it", not "wow a guy died by falling into a vat? That's awful"


[30-Apr-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People could never ever put up an armed revolt against the government


[30-Apr-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like we know that for sure now


[30-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to be really far from the gov't to resist it.


[30-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've met people who don't think the government has any right to quarantine people


[30-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
We only got free of Britain because of an ocean that France also wanted control of.


[30-Apr-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They straight up said they'd rather have someone spread Ebola than sacrifice anything


[30-Apr-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A pandemic is a war and to some degree, you have restrictions on your rights more than usual during one.


[30-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I actually pitched to someone earlier this year the concept


[30-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that people can't put a face on a virus.


[30-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If 1000 people a day were dying in New York of an infectious disease, how many restrictions would people stand?"


[30-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was in January


[30-Apr-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so when you tell them the real enemy is fellow Americans enabling its spread, they get antsy.


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't blame Good Ol' Jenkins down the street.


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was a war against people, they'd see him palling around with le Nazis etc.


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Consider the span of 19 years


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they can't put a face to the virus and thus can't put a blame on anyone except Jenkins.


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In 2001, firefighters from Indiana drove to save NYC during 9/11


[30-Apr-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now, they root for its collapse.


[30-Apr-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, most retards on the street can't fathom fighting something they can't hate.


[30-Apr-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or hating someone that isn't associating with something hatable.


[30-Apr-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should be hating people who spread the virus.


[30-Apr-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They are the enemy as much as the virus itself.


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell that to a MAGA supporter.


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell them the MAGA supporter next to them is the enemy.


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump koolaid


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
See the problem?


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire worldview is us vs. them


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is no them.


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The enemy is within.


[30-Apr-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't even see a problem with Russia infiltrating them, Its.


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll admit that I may be extreme with this.


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are they going to be able to do when the enemy is their neighbor *doing the behaviors that they joined this to promote*?


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We should have the National Guard enforcing stay at home orders


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not extreme


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These protests should be broken up with force if need be


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
also not extreme


[30-Apr-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the most lukewarm take you've had all day


[30-Apr-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
this is what any _sane_ society should be doing


[30-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should be having the National Guard take over factories and such on the spot when finding workers not given PPE.


[30-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's borderline tankie. If need be, tanks should roll down streets to enforce this.


[30-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what's extreme.


[30-Apr-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And demolishing them as soon as a court order can get thru


[30-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any business found to be knowingly contributing to the problem should hav **all its assets destroyed**.


[30-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Helicopters screaming 24/7 "This area is under quarantine, do not leave your houses, we will use force"


[30-Apr-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Forget the GDP, burn everything to the ground that doesn't operate in a way that keeps people safe.


[30-Apr-20 06:43 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie you make it sound like completely hopeless with eternal conservatives


[30-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't eternal.


[30-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every generation their vision falls further out of reach.


[30-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are their last hope for survival.


[30-Apr-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, they gain new people for their cause by making people wealthy.


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people aren't wealthy in the slightest.


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've completely screwed themselves on every front by shoring up their current members while rejecting any possible new ones.


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
> Also, they gain new people for their cause by making people wealthy.
> Young people aren't wealthy in the slightest.
oh. that answers my question on "what if they live longer and longer". they just become poorer and poorer?


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 20 years, Millennials will hav complete control of Congress and will basically make it illegal to so much as tell employees they should work hard.


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old people aren't getting poorer.


[30-Apr-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav all the wealth.


[30-Apr-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they're dying.


[30-Apr-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Advancements in anti-aging are still far off.


[30-Apr-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even Zoomers will likely be dying in their late 70s.


[30-Apr-20 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
> Advancements in anti-aging are still far off.
> Even Zoomers will likely be dying in their late 70s.
oh rip. I get articles like 
https://theprint.in/world/why-south-korean-women-will-soon-outlive-us-all/270465/
every now and then in my news feed, and it makes me think for all I know dying is "solved" by next generation

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Women born in South Korea in 2030 are projected to be the first in the world to have an average life expectancy of above 90, a new study has found.
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[30-Apr-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah.


[30-Apr-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life expectancy can't really go beyond 90.


[30-Apr-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need to fundamentally solve aging.


[30-Apr-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that a combination of ways that our DNA degrades means that 120 is basically max.


[30-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's all sorts of things that can go wrong to kill you at 30 or less too.


[30-Apr-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh and by 100, cancer is pretty much around every corner.


[30-Apr-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, CT scans are a common medical procedure, as are mammograms. Both use tons of radiation and thus getting them increases cancer risk decades later.


[30-Apr-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason we use them is that later in people's adult lives, they may not hav those decades left anyways, so it's important to get a grasp on what's going on *now*.


[30-Apr-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's also why the age to get a mammogram keeps becoming controversial.


[30-Apr-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's essentially the tipping point beween where a mammogram does more harm or more good.


[30-Apr-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(which is made more complicated by false positives, and how surgery to deal with them could cause harm)


[30-Apr-20 06:57 AM] jlun2#8758
thanks. I never got news nor articles on that before


[30-Apr-20 07:27 AM] Yuri#4154
Seems like ol' Musky is doubling down on this

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[30-Apr-20 07:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Posted in r/EnoughMuskSpam


[30-Apr-20 07:30 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm way too tired to crop


[30-Apr-20 07:30 AM] Yuri#4154
It's 6:30 am


[30-Apr-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
stop staying up so late you fucking degenerate


[30-Apr-20 07:35 AM] jlun2#8758
so is silicon valley going to decline yet


[30-Apr-20 07:36 AM] byte[]#2610
sort of


[30-Apr-20 07:36 AM] byte[]#2610
every company that comes out of it gets ripped to shreds by vulture capitalists


[30-Apr-20 07:36 AM] byte[]#2610
but also they seem to have a very large supply of companies


[30-Apr-20 07:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Wikipedia feeling savage today

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[30-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guarantee within a year


[30-Apr-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We will have employers complaining "No one wants to come in to work anymore, they just want to remote work"


[30-Apr-20 09:09 AM] jlun2#8758
please do


[30-Apr-20 09:09 AM] jlun2#8758
i hate commute


[30-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney#2012_presidential_campaign

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[30-Apr-20 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
calling him a vulture capitalist was apparently an attack ad run during the 2012 primary by other republicans


[30-Apr-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
> In the run-up to the South Carolina Republican primary, Gingrich launched ads criticizing Romney for causing job losses while at Bain Capital, Perry referred to Romney's role there as "vulture capitalism", and Sarah Palin pressed Romney to prove his claim that he created 100,000 jobs during that time.


[30-Apr-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
specifically by gingrich


[30-Apr-20 09:23 AM] Midknight#9798
actually you are allowed to slaughter your own livestock for your own personal consumption; you just can't sell the meat commercially without going through a regulated and *theoretically* inspected process


[30-Apr-20 10:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How is that an attack from _republicans_?


[30-Apr-20 10:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being a vulture, a craven individualist, a money grubbing backstabbing two-faced rat, is a core tenant of the GOP


[30-Apr-20 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
just because they all do it doesn't mean they can't attack each other for doing it


[30-Apr-20 10:29 AM] Crow#5457
in public, it's an attack, in private they're patting each other on the back for it


[30-Apr-20 10:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495393-trump-says-china-will-do-anything-they-can-to-keep-him-from-being

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Trump says China 'will do anything they can' to keep him from being...
President Trump said Wednesday that he thinks China is trying to keep him from getting reelected this year.
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[30-Apr-20 11:00 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[30-Apr-20 12:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's nonsense


[30-Apr-20 12:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All Chinese want Trump to be reelected


[30-Apr-20 12:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
To keep America great

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[30-Apr-20 12:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Great"


[30-Apr-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anyone wants him out, it;s americans


[30-Apr-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkBseVTUow here's a full 8 minutes of protest insanity

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[30-Apr-20 12:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/aWl7kQZHZE0

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[30-Apr-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Apr-20 02:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"I am speed" - 🇺🇸 🤢 ☠️


[30-Apr-20 02:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyway, something occurred to me - I remember a lot of right-wingers in past years trying to defend our healthcare system by saying that pharmaceutical companies need all that money to develop new drugs, etc (among other things like how US Rx companies "subsidize" the healthcare of europe and other such nonsense)...


[30-Apr-20 02:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...so I decided to look into what, exactly, big pharma is up to in researching covid-19. https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/17/nih-partners-with-16-drug-companies-in-hopes-of-accelerating-covid-19-treatments-and-vaccines/

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NIH partners with 16 drug companies to speed Covid-19 research
The National Institutes of Health is teaming up with 16 drug companies to accelerate research into Covid-19 treatments and vaccines.
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[30-Apr-20 02:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This article goes into a little more detail about what each of these companies are doing (and, as an interesting side note, how their stocks are faring). https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-nine-companies-are-working-on-coronavirus-treatments-or-vaccines-heres-where-things-stand-2020-03-06

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These 21 companies are working on coronavirus treatments or vaccine...
A mix of legacy drugmakers and small startups have stepped forward with plans to develop vaccines or treatments that target the infection caused by the novel...
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[30-Apr-20 02:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I personally found intersting is that the companies that are showing the most promise (medically and economically) are mostly using the funding provided by the gov't, and the companies I've actually heard of like Pfizer (which isn't even US-based) and Johnson & Johnson have seen their stocks fall since the beginning of the year


[30-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Opponent#3498
``` A week later, Stat reported that a draft of the clinical trial results for remdesivir showed that the drug did not speed up improvement in patients in China or prevent them from dying. The summary was published on the World Health Organization’s (WHO) website and then taken down, Stat said.

A WHO spokesperson confirmed the summary, telling the media outlet that the manuscript is undergoing peer review and was published by accident. ```


[30-Apr-20 02:48 PM] Opponent#3498
:twismug:


[30-Apr-20 02:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this the same China that ended their study prematurely?


[30-Apr-20 02:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
as for the bit about "preventing them from dying," I believe that, at least, since the studies conducted here reflected that as well. And it certainly isn't a vaccine, but as a treatment, I'd still keep my hopes up for it. My biggest concern re: remdesivir is that it might not be widely available any sooner than October


[30-Apr-20 02:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
same with pretty much all this stuff. Like, even if one of the vaccines being tested right now turns out to work, we'd still have to *make* enough of it, and that takes some time


[30-Apr-20 02:55 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, mid-autumn is the common time goal for any of those projects it seems


[30-Apr-20 02:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on a more positive note, there's an unconfirmed theory that people who have been testing positive for covid-19 after recovery were actually just remnants of dead virus and that antibody immunity is projected to last for around a year in another study


[30-Apr-20 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be helpful.


[30-Apr-20 02:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do still think it's possible for people to be hit by the virus twice (for instance, if the first exposure had a mild viral load and then they got more heavily exposed) but...I do remember what it felt like to be hopeful


[30-Apr-20 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Apr-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
well, unfortunately you can't just _sell_ the fuel to buy shit, might as well use it.


[30-Apr-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
also the maintenance crews would be out of a job :D


[30-Apr-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
These are military jets, they'll find something for ground crew to do


[30-Apr-20 03:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[30-Apr-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-paid-69-million-ventilators-engineer-tweeted-trump-2020-4

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New York reportedly paid $69 million for ventilators to an engineer...
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[30-Apr-20 04:03 PM] Crow#5457
>69


[30-Apr-20 04:03 PM] Crow#5457
nice


[30-Apr-20 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/495359-gop-prepares-to-hit-the-gas-on-trump-nominees

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GOP prepares to hit the gas on Trump nominees
Senate Republicans are preparing to fire up the nominations engine when they return to Washington next week.
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[30-Apr-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ6p2LgbYRQ

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[30-Apr-20 05:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
"Prefer black people stay black people and white people stay white people." While she's a walking example of crossbreeding.


[30-Apr-20 05:55 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Her whole physique is pretty close to caucassian while the skin is some milk chocolate brown.


[30-Apr-20 06:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
"But I'm not black, I'm Ethiopian. I'm an Asiatic!" -Her, probably.


[30-Apr-20 06:26 PM] jlun2#8758
human psychology is weird


[30-Apr-20 07:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trends

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[30-Apr-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious the bottom tweets are all serious right


[30-Apr-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/majority-of-americans-support-locking-down-for-longer-poll-2020-4

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[30-Apr-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/WoobieTuesday/status/1255704356134875136?s=20

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[30-Apr-20 08:12 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/majority-of-americans-support-locking-down-for-longer-poll-2020-4
@prism stryder(intexda)  well they’re just jokes basically

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Trump is letting his social distancing guidelines expire, but 76% o...
The poll featuring 1,099 respondents found that the majority of Americans want to continue social distancing to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.
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[30-Apr-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what did chris hayes do?


[30-Apr-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Report on the Tara Reade case


[30-Apr-20 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With an obvious dose of Biden defense tho


[30-Apr-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[30-Apr-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CasuallyPerla/status/1255917028608577536

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https://twitter.com/CasuallyPerla/status/1255917028608577536
Democratic presidential candidate: accused of sexual assault

Pelosi be like: y'all Joe Biden is Joe Biden...

Hell what's wrong with you people

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[30-Apr-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://romansresearch.wordpress.com/2020/04/30/tara-reades-updated-medium-post-all-material-edits/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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Tara Reade’s Updated Medium Post: All Material Edits
4/29/20 Corrections:Reade made the new allegations public on March 24th, not the 26thThe “datemodified” in the source code indicates the most recent edit (Note: My goal is to make this …
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[30-Apr-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
it's too bad we can't trust the law and even if we could there is no incentive for them to make a determination


[30-Apr-20 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking i don't think these edits denigrate the legitimacy of her allegations


[30-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If anything, she might just have remembered details she forgot about which she then included into her old posts


[30-Apr-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd be damning if most of these edits actually removed certain details or contradicted the old narrative imo


[30-Apr-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far, if i am to be skeptical, i'll wait for evidence of her being paid by an anti-Biden group or anything of that sort


[30-Apr-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i think it's clear that Trump's supporters and his campaign machine will take advantage of this scandal


[30-Apr-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe they will try to


[30-Apr-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but the question has become, how many middle-of-the-road libertarians are actually going to be more bothered by the allegations that are unfolding now than they are by the state of the union come November


[30-Apr-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which has me wondering, with Pence being tasked as the head of the coronavirus response, whether that'd be enough to scupper his chances if Trump is actually out of the picture by then by some means or another, because Trump losing to Biden is seen as a no-brainer (except to those with no brains), but Pence has stayed in Trump's shadow well enough that I don't think people living under a rock would see Biden vs. Pence as any better than a coin toss


[30-Apr-20 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't care about the allegations. The right's just acting how the left did with Kavanaugh.


[30-Apr-20 09:02 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but that's just the law working as it always does to protect the powerful the real issue is how so many metoo-ers are bending over backwards to deligitimized Tara Reade instead of sticking to their principle. they only care about metoo when it works for them the instant it could work against them they dropped it


[30-Apr-20 09:03 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue i assume all of them


[30-Apr-20 09:07 PM] Honahue#0656
Al Franken did get MeToo'd but that was early on and he wasn't running for president and Minnesota is a pretty solid blue state anyway so he could be sacrificed to prove their commitment, now though when it might force Biden to drop out for Bernie no way, they are more comfortable with Trump


[30-Apr-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/tyzw58p1nxv41.jpg

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[30-Apr-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
who would win? every epidemiologist ever, or one musky boi


[30-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean that's fair enough. If he's willing to stand behind these words and accept his opinion as wrong - that's just fine.


[30-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
if not - too bad, that'd be a slap to the face.


[30-Apr-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
personal one, too, not like that armored window thing.


[30-Apr-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Al Franken got smeared mostly because he got elected for being smart and he was constantly insulting the GOP


[30-Apr-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they were really itching for a reason to destroy him


[30-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah the GOP wanted him gone but the Dems were olay with it cause it was "proof" of their commitment to MeToo


[30-Apr-20 09:18 PM] Honahue#0656
and he'd get replaced by a Dem anyway so it was a safe bet


[30-Apr-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
roadkill for the democrats


[30-Apr-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
is there any way to make the men in america less rapey?


[30-Apr-20 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
its not a men thing its a heirarchy thing, men tend to inhabit higher parts in heirarchy but demolish the heirachy and you demolish the ability to use it to protect the rapists


[30-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
so, it's actively against the interests of men, as a sub-species, to demolish the system


[30-Apr-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
so, it will not be fixed without another major world war.


[30-Apr-20 09:34 PM] jlun2#8758
all male sub species


[30-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
fair


[30-Apr-20 09:35 PM] Honahue#0656
it's against the intrest of anyone regardless of gender with power to abolish the system, thats why you see Biden getting plenty of powerful women endorsements


[30-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
declining to endorse Biden is endorsing Trump


[30-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't look too deep into current situation


[30-Apr-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
it's too binary in it's outcome


[30-Apr-20 09:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent pls tell that to ppl who dont vote, but are able to (ie no job or other life thing blocking them)


[30-Apr-20 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I would if I could.


[30-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-trump-saudi-specialreport-idUSKBN22C1V4

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As the United States pressed Saudi Arabia to end its oil price war with Russia, President Donald Trump gave Saudi leaders an ultimatum.
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[30-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
wow


[30-Apr-20 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
he took much longer to do it than I'd expect


[30-Apr-20 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
its not coal


[30-Apr-20 09:39 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not really but I would recommend voting for Biden, however, that's all you should do for the Dems after that people need to organize, strike, march, whatever actual ground work they need to do to force laws through cause historically that's the only thing that works


[30-Apr-20 09:40 PM] Honahue#0656
Civil Rights didn't get passed cause they elected the right represenitives in


[30-Apr-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
didnt trump showed that there's still plenty of ppl who hate civil rights; even if they're (slowly) declining, they still vote far more often


[30-Apr-20 09:41 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah thats what I mean, lots of people do hate civil rights but if enough people protest constantly and make the status quo untenable it'll force the changes they want


[30-Apr-20 09:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the GOP seem to be doing a fine job of making the status quo untenable all on their own


[30-Apr-20 09:43 PM] Honahue#0656
thats part of why Occupy failed, among other reasons, they didn't have a solid core message to get around, other than bankers bad, so it was easy to break it up without having a solution to it which Civil Rights did have


[30-Apr-20 09:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I think it's only going to get worse once all the reopenings catch up and it turns out that it didn't save the economy at all, it just made more people sick


[30-Apr-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
nah


[30-Apr-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
we live in a post truth environment its completely fine

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[30-Apr-20 09:44 PM] Honahue#0656
well the GOP and the DNC are both just the party of the CEO just whether they'll hire gays, and CEO only think 3 months at a time


[30-Apr-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
aside from the idiot loudmouths, the vast majority of americans do realize that their loved ones are getting sick and dying and that they think it's a bad idea to reopen right now


[30-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta agree with the post-truth thing. The hybrid war concept proved it doesn't matter what's happening, only what the media reports on it


[30-Apr-20 09:45 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah and the media is owned by like 6 companies


[30-Apr-20 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
so Fox News or CNN their intrests are still to the CEO and his is to Shareholders who only want to see the number generator go up faster


[30-Apr-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
don't just vote for the presidency


[30-Apr-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
_vote for congress_ you fucks

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[30-Apr-20 09:57 PM] jlun2#8758
im politically ignorant as hell


[30-Apr-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the election in november has more on the ballot than the president


[30-Apr-20 09:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you're making a decision on whether or not to vote soley on the presidential election, you're doing it wrong


[30-Apr-20 09:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if you don't know what else is on the ballot, find out ahead of time


[30-Apr-20 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even going in with the intention of voting straight party won't help you if there are referendums, for instance


[30-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
State constitutional amendments are a huge deal.


[30-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're why Florida is lost for Trump already.


[30-Apr-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
how many ppl are even aware of that? i never heard of that term until you posted it


[30-Apr-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, in many red or purple states, people are "Republicans will tax me less, right? Fucking Dems, I just want my legal weed and less voter supperission"


[30-Apr-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
are they even aware of voter suppression


[30-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire Republican argument is that their unpopular positions are worth it because they occupy some vague moral highground or both sides are bad so vote for the ones honest about it.


[30-Apr-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are.


[30-Apr-20 10:07 PM] jlun2#8758
outside the vauge idea that they may be highly disincentives to vote, but not enough to say "Yes, they dont want me to vote"?


[30-Apr-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> vague moral highground or both sides are bad so vote for the ones honest about it.
are they still doing that now


[30-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is people don't necessarily believe or *need to* believe in actual voter suppression.


[30-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they care about is the rules.


[30-Apr-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when they see "commit a felony you can never vote again", they say "that's a bad rule".


[30-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then Republicans keep that rule against what the majority wants, because they hav other things to distract the voters with.


[30-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ballot measures can put things like that to a direct popular vote.


[30-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then people will vote Republican but also vote against voter suppression.


[30-Apr-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get patterns like states raising minimum wage, expanding abortion access, legalizing weed, reducing voter suppression...and putting Republicans in office.


[30-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, Republicans in office are against all those things and try to fight them, but the judges will often side with the voters.


[30-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
local elections are even more important


[30-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You absolutely need to push thru the ballot measures that undercut the GOP's position.


[30-Apr-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Voting against them won't always work while they use literally every trikk possible to win votes.


[30-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so when they do things to reduce your ability to vote against them by closing polling places etc.


[30-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah, Trump got elected and my state went for him but we also got all the ballot measures, like anti gerrymandering laws and legal weed


[30-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are still riding high on conservative values by Boomer shits.


[30-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Honahue#0656
and same day election registration


[30-Apr-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers however aren't united in wanting what Republicans want, they often want something milder.


[30-Apr-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just see Dems wanting actual reform and puke.


[30-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, if you untangle stuff from MAGA, you can get even actual MAGA people to agree to things.


[30-Apr-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talk up a conservative about how, say, weed being illegal is gov't oppression.


[30-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't mention Bernie or Biden or whatnot, and instead talk about some Republican.


[30-Apr-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll be too confused on partisanness to outright reject it.


[30-Apr-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds great, how many ppl are doing that? hard to tell online given ppl just end up argueing about sides


[30-Apr-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doing what?


[30-Apr-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
this:
> Pretty much, if you untangle stuff from MAGA, you can get even actual MAGA people to agree to things.
> Talk up a conservative about how, say, weed being illegal is gov't oppression.
> Don't mention Bernie or Biden or whatnot, and instead talk about some Republican.
> They'll be too confused on partisanness to outright reject it.


[30-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter.


[30-Apr-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's mainly how the advertising handles the ballot measure, not how you individually talk to conservatives.


[30-Apr-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/maryland-national-guard-police-guard-coronavirus-tests-at-secret-location-2020-4

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Maryland called in National Guard troops to defend coronavirus test...
'The National Guard and state police are both guarding these tests at an undisclosed location,' Gov. Hogan said of 500,000 tests from South Korea.
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[30-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/495548-biden-to-join-msnbcs-morning-joe-to-discuss-reade-sexual-assault-allegations

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Biden to join MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' to discuss Reade sexual assault...
Former Vice President Joe Biden will appear on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Friday morning, where for the first time he will address allegations from a former staffer named Tara Reade who says he sexually assaulted her in 1993.
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[30-Apr-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh boy.


[30-Apr-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe they really are waiting for a dark horse, or will just go with Bernie.


[30-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
no, they're just that daft.


[30-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only reason the GOP cares about this is to hold the Democrats to their own standards, standards that the GOP does not have.


[30-Apr-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why it seems political


[30-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't "Yes, this looks legitimate" it's


[30-Apr-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"NONO, you say all women are to be believed, believe this one!"


[30-Apr-20 11:18 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but the DNC only hates Trump cause he's mean, he still believes in most the things they do he just says it out loud, the DNC is way more comfortable with Trump as president than with Bernie


[30-Apr-20 11:23 PM] Honahue#0656
if Biden does win all the better but only because he is the status quo, all the same shit just not said out loud


[30-Apr-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495556-armed-protesters-demonstrate-inside-michigan-state-capitol

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Armed protesters demonstrate inside Michigan state capitol
Hundreds of Michiganders were seen protesting at the state capitol in Lansing, with some armed demonstrators pushing inside as the legislature discussed Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s (D) state of emergency over the coronavirus pandemic.
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[30-Apr-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Terrorists attempt to storm Michigan capitol building"


[30-Apr-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fixed the title.


[01-May-20 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're wondering about why Elon Musk is screaming about freeing america, wonder no more
<https://www.autoblog.com/2020/04/28/tesla-elon-musk-750-million-dollars-stock-options>
> Elon Musk is on the cusp of a roughly $750 million payday as the electric carmaker's stock recovers from a slump caused by the coronavirus, which led the company to close its factories and furlough workers.
> 
> [...]the company could open its Fremont, California, plant next month after it was shuttered because of the pandemic.

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[01-May-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If The Line climbs just a little bit higher, he's in for a whole lot of money


[01-May-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, some peons might die to accomplish that, but that's a price he's willing to pay


[01-May-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found a discussion of what is and isn't cyberpunk, and this was a response to someone saying worrying about transhumanism is dumb

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[01-May-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
it _is_ dumb


[01-May-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
we won't live to see it


[01-May-20 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
so why worry?


[01-May-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't we help future generations understand themselves?


[01-May-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, some stuff is close, like designer genes etc


[01-May-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I like how Trump always praises Xi and always condemns and criticizes China


[01-May-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But never both at the same time


[01-May-20 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too much of a coward to say something mean about the person that directs the country, so he just uses a nebulous "china" for it


[01-May-20 12:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But... isn't Xi... China? 🤔


[01-May-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd piss himself if Xi said something mean about him or took a hostile attitude in negotiations instead of all the fake smiles and handshakes malarkey


[01-May-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/SenPolehanki/status/1255899318210314241?s=19

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Senator Dayna Polehanki (@SenPolehanki)
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Directly above me, men with rifles yelling at us. Some of my colleagues who own bullet proof vests are wearing them. I have never appreciated our Sergeants-at-Arms more than today. #mileg
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[01-May-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dear President Xi, 

My country, my state has fallen. It is becoming a right-wing terror state. Terrorist bodies are taking over my government, my land. Please use your Chengdu fighters to liberate us and bring back Democracy, but with superior Chinese characteristics.
From,
Evan. Age 9


[01-May-20 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
terrorist organization being the DeVos family


[01-May-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most countries have people turn into terrorists to fight off a foreign invasion or for their religion.
We have it because people want to eat at Applebee's.


[01-May-20 12:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well applebee's does taste pretty good.


[01-May-20 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's also not essential and you won't die without it. Learn to cook at home like the rest of us millenials who now fawn over our home made bread.


[01-May-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
home-made bread is legit btw, can confirm


[01-May-20 12:57 AM] Honahue#0656
Bread Santa would like to know your location

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[01-May-20 12:58 AM] ononim#8141
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who Elon Musk            who Elon Musk
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[01-May-20 12:58 AM] ononim#8141
elon be like: Why contain it?


[01-May-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elon "Ol' Musky Pedo Guy" Musk


[01-May-20 12:59 AM] Honahue#0656
for getting called out about his child drowning tube


[01-May-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it took me a minute to work out that that was 2 sentences


[01-May-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656

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[01-May-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who elon musk who elon musk thinks he is actually is

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[01-May-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't dead open inside


[01-May-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
don't open dead inside


[01-May-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
don't inside open dead


[01-May-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
let it snow


[01-May-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
le tits now


[01-May-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/6frq8og4qu901.jpg

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[01-May-20 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
an example of thefirst Law of Thought


[01-May-20 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
the law of identity


[01-May-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/rent-strike-us-tenants-landlords-may-2020-4

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Tenants in the US are planning the largest rent strike in decades a...
"We need our rent canceled," said Vanessas Bulnes, a renter and organizer in Oakland, California. "We need forgiveness. We need it gone."
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[01-May-20 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656
this is what must be done to have any actual political change


[01-May-20 01:41 AM] Honahue#0656
electoral politis is dead direct action is my only friend now


[01-May-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
> Landlords say a rent strike would disrupt "the entire financial ecosystem."


[01-May-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> "Before the COVID-19 virus, 70% of our income went toward rent," said Vanessa Bulnes, 61, her voice crackling over a Zoom call with housing organizers and media on Thursday.


[01-May-20 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Won't somebody please think of the poor land lords 💸


[01-May-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-pence-finally-put-a-mask-on-to-tour-gm-kokomo-plant-2020-4

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Mike Pence finally put on a mask during a tour of a GM factory in h...
After refusing to wear one at the Mayo Clinic, Pence finally donned a mask while touring a GM plant converted to make ventilators.
https://i.insider.com/5eab12e8144192032908b375?width=1200&format=jpeg


[01-May-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some thoughts about the difference between Biden and Kavanaugh


[01-May-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One serves for at most eight years, the other life


[01-May-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course people worry about one more.


[01-May-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly related, I'm amazed Biden was ever allowed to be a lawyer. Things were different in Delaware back then I guess.


[01-May-20 02:47 AM] Honahue#0656
if Biden win he will be a 1 term president cause the DNC is just gonna double down on this bullshit and the next R will sweep the nation in a landslide


[01-May-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
he can be a 1 term president without a republican win in 2024


[01-May-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
le primary challenge


[01-May-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the GOP would never allow this to happen in their party, but the democrats will


[01-May-20 02:49 AM] Honahue#0656
the dems are pretty clearly just as ossified in their positions as the GOP they are just the ones that believe the racist uncles at the table just wish he wouldn't drop n-bombs around the kids


[01-May-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
no that's not true


[01-May-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
the GOP is almost exclusively a boomer party, from party leadership to party members


[01-May-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the democrats represent a far more diverse coalition from bottom to top -- but the party leaders are still boomers, and are growing resentment from the bottom


[01-May-20 02:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Biden was the leader with boomer Dems anyone under like 45 was for Bernie


[01-May-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a lot of people over 45.


[01-May-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them vote Republican.


[01-May-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It didn't used to be like this.


[01-May-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
>  And some conservative pundits have found comfort in the fact that, as millennials have moved left, graying baby-boomers have shuffled right. This might be a lousy trade in the long run (since, in the long run, boomers will all be dead). But in the immediate term, the GOP has derived a good deal of benefit from age polarization, as older voters cast ballots at much higher rates than the young ones do.


[01-May-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao this article


[01-May-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
constant shade


[01-May-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
> Put simply, it’s difficult to be the party that’s hell-bent on shrinking the welfare state when your core voters are the welfare state’s primary beneficiaries.


[01-May-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/biden-campaign-reaches-deal-bernie-sanders-retain-hundreds/story?id=70428518

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Biden campaign reaches deal to allow Bernie Sanders to retain hundr...
The campaigns of former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders reached a deal that allows the progressive stalwart to keep delegates he would have forfeited.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/biden-bernie-ap-aa-200427_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[01-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This might be an "in case I die" move.


[01-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that the DNC won't hav to hugely shift its priorities if Biden dies really close to the convention.


[01-May-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Die/Tara things spins out/hunter did a bigger oopsie than we know


[01-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP should treat Reade the same way they treated Ford


[01-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's fair, right?


[01-May-20 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
they will and 100% it is


[01-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are inconsistent about these things when you can use them for political gain.


[01-May-20 03:19 AM] Honahue#0656
the DNC has to know how much Trump will take all this out on Biden and they are either so caught up huffing their own farts they think the electorate will eat that shit sandwich or they don't care and are fine with 4 more Trump


[01-May-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hard to sell Biden as an accused rapist when you've spent 5 years saying being an accused rapist isn't bad


[01-May-20 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
I will treat these people like Robespierre treated King Louis. That is fair. After all, does it do good to aquite the criminals of the Republic to save the Republic? Nah, it dooms the Republic. And we shall unleash the Terror of the People


[01-May-20 03:21 AM] Honahue#0656
the R's literally don't care though only the D's try to have some sense of moral code but only when it's politically adventageous.


[01-May-20 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
and if somehow they do they still got Hunter and Biden's clear mental decline to go on too


[01-May-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[01-May-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people would do the exact shit Biden was accused of.


[01-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News will latch onto Reade for a while but not be able to build a narrative.


[01-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's too little to it and they'd be instantly hit bakk with "What about Ford and Trump's accuser?"


[01-May-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
s


[01-May-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Accusers


[01-May-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They sank too much time into discrediting all women without tons of money.


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they'll put some pundit on and he'll be like "Yeah this is just Ford all over again" and the Fox News anchor will quietly sigh and move on.


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sex scandals will only kill your campaign if you're black and the woman was white


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even then


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-meltdown-fascist-social-distancing-tesla-production/

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Elon Musk slams "fascist" social distancing measures in rant about ...
"This is not democratic, this is not freedom. Give people back their g**d*** freedom," the Tesla CEO says in an earnings call.
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[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas.


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
elon musk is calling social distancing fascism


[01-May-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anita Hill is black


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, right.


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But still


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans can just dodge.


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their voters don't ultimately care.


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he is :hopeless:


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/25/coronavirus-rent-strike-may/

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Largest Rent Strike in Nearly a Century Amid Coronavirus Crisis
The rent strike is aimed at pressuring politicians to respond in the only way appropriate to the exacerbated housing crisis: by canceling rent.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2020/04/AP_20092709811232-crop.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[01-May-20 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
and Biden gets angry pretty quick in a debate the DNC putting him in a debate with Trump would be elder abuse with how much he's declining


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think angry Biden is what's needed in a debate.


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Voters care more about "That could be my son" than "That could be my daughter"


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'll talk over Trump and make Trump stumble on words over and over.


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
LISTEN HERE JACK


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but Biden's anger is one of confusion Bernie's was focused anger


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump lately has been getting so much bad news and it just makes him weak in speaking.


[01-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's confusion is to his benefit.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can just assault Trump with nonsensical questions and accusations.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Quirky grandpa.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's base will start crying.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's base doesn't care who has a better, more coherent argument.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just care who is being aggressive and loud and sounds right.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The debates will make them not want to vote.


[01-May-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden did always sound like Trump in a way


[01-May-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden has stuff like this, which helps him a lot

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[01-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He looks like one of those people in a Doctor Who ep who just had all memory erased


[01-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but are happy because ICE CREAM.


[01-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
HAHA WHO ARE YOU? ICE CREAM? ICE CREAM! YAY!


[01-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the Doctor and companion slowly bakk away and try to figure out who's doing this.


[01-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, here we are https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495563-trump-biden-allegations-could-be-false-but-he-should-respond

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Trump: Biden allegations 'could be false,' but 'he should respond'
President Trump on Thursday said he believes former Vice President Joe Biden should respond to sexual assault allegations from a former Senate aide.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonaldtwo_04302020getty.jpg


[01-May-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's making sure people remember not to actually put heat on the accused so he can slip by, while still calling out Joe to walk into a trap, @Itsthinking


[01-May-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to get Joe to say something stupid that makes him look guilty, then Republicans can stay silent as Dems fight it out.


[01-May-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are hypocrites and don't care.


[01-May-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wishtv.com/news/nearly-900-at-tyson-foods-plant-test-positive-for-coronavirus/

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Richard Essex
https://www.wishtv.com/news/nearly-900-at-tyson-foods-plant-test-positive-for-coronavirus/
Nearly 900 at Tyson Foods plant test positive for coronavirus - WIS...
LOGANSPORT, Ind. (WISH) — The Cass County Health Department on …
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[01-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html

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U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Dat...
In seven hard-hit states, total deaths are nearly 50 percent higher than normal, according to new C.D.C. statistics, suggesting that the virus has killed far more people than the number in official counts.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036-facebookJumbo-v4.jpg


[01-May-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just awful


[01-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't want to leave their homes yet


[01-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495430-karen-pence-says-vice-president-didnt-know-about-mayo-clinic-mask

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Karen Pence says vice president didn't know about Mayo Clinic mask ...
Second lady Karen Pence said Thursday that Vice President Pence had been unaware of the Mayo Clinic's policy requiring all visitors to wear a face covering until after he left the facility on Tuesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pencemike_041320upi_lead.jpg


[01-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
She...is actually named that?


[01-May-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's weirdly fitting


[01-May-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she will have words with the manager of the mayo clinic!


[01-May-20 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently he also calls her mother


[01-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking We found the Karen Queen.


[01-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's been hiding under our noses this whole time.


[01-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using her husband to go unnoticed.


[01-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] where are orbital nukes when you need them?


[01-May-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
society


[01-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, a smaller Karen https://imgur.com/gallery/XD1fTHG

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Karen and her Bacterial Beast
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[01-May-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
fake and gay


[01-May-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No see, my kid isn't fake, cause she is NINETY NINE PERCENT BACTERIA! BACTERIA ARE THE ONLY NATURAL THING! etc.

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[01-May-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
why do the suburban white complainer look so similar to each other


[01-May-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Limited genetic diversity from disapproval of interracial breeding, plus a desire to look a certain way according to the beauty standards of society.


[01-May-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
boomers


[01-May-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all suburban white karens are competing with eachother, which means thye msut look the same to assimilate


[01-May-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
these are the offspring of the boomers


[01-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they're inbred European women whose ancestors bred like crazy thruout the 19th and 20th centuries.


[01-May-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And their entire life is about keeping up appearances and getting the best for their own family at the expense of, if it comes down to it, the lives of others who don't look like them.


[01-May-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
These are the people who would happily shoot blakk people to get a free cup of coffee.


[01-May-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I'm pretty sure it's not about black people.


[01-May-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
they'd shoot their neighbour and cooked them on a grill as a novelty if they knew they'd get away with it.


[01-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, their neighbor looks the same, thinks the same, has children who look the same, and goes to the same parties.


[01-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd shoot the blakk people first, and their neighbor second.


[01-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do recall, these are people who liv in suburbs.


[01-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suburbs specifically designed to create areas of racial uniformity.


[01-May-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suburban America is honestly kind of creepy.


[01-May-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Everything* looks the same.


[01-May-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Nothing* looks natural.


[01-May-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same few designs over and over, from the streets to the houses to the cars to the clothes people wear.


[01-May-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The lawns are overly-mowed green patches with maybe a few trees.


[01-May-20 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and when the suburbanitews move out of suburbia into rural areas, they get agressivelly hostile towards the neighbors who dont keep their yards suburban spotless


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, they get PISSED about people who don't water lawns.


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking from experience here...


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, every suburban community has a "Homeowner's Association"


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is basically a cabaal of the biggest Karens.


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
do america have grass "roombas" yet


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
we do


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They decide whether you can or cannot subdivide, and the answer is no unless you're part of it.


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
grass claymore roombas.


[01-May-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
oh nice


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, subdividing is the way you can rezone your area to do things like rent out to tenants.


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
doubles as entertainment, protection and early warning :3


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in the homeowner's association will oppose it, because it gets you money and ruins their perfect view of your empty yard.


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
if a HOA prevents a property from becoming a rental I'm for it tbh


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Honahue#0656
doesn't matter if their neighbors look the same years of True Crime podcasts have made them terrified of everyone around them


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] the problem is like, this isn't to stop people from renting, they're fine with that.


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the suburban neighbors were so aggressive to leaves int heir yard, they hired a guy to come into our yard, chop thee branches off and thne dumped them in our yard


[01-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to stop people from developing.


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
My parents got screwed by this.


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had a GIGANTIC yard and were never allowed to do anything with it.


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
they're fine with it as long as you only rent to white people


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing but grass and a pile of rokks from when the foundation was dug out.


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
though I suppose that was implicit


[01-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
My stepdad's non-white.


[01-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom is white but she's got poor vision so she can't really do much as far as paperwork and anything requiring it unassisted.


[01-May-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suburbanites move out to nature to enjoy it and thne get incredibly hostile towards it. 
Oh, i;m sorry we didnt stop our rural ass deer from hopping your suburban ass fence


[01-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, the other people in the neighborhood like, never went outside.


[01-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had these amazing lawns but unless they were mowing them, never used them for anything.


[01-May-20 04:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> never went outside.
that sounds like me


[01-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a huge contrast to living in a trailer park.


[01-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was actual room to play as a kid, but like


[01-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
*nobody else along the street would be seen*


[01-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something that also seems strange in retrospect is this applied most to the nursing home directly across the street.


[01-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody ever went outside it except to enter a vehicle.


[01-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, people in the last stage of their life and they're just...completely shut in.


[01-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And like, this was the early 2000s


[01-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
so they definitely weren't on the internet.


[01-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably watching TV day in, day out.


[01-May-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My parent's HOA only ever gets upset about political signs.


[01-May-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbia has been around since the 50s, but I don't think there has been _quite_ the same suburbia experience from Boomers to Zoomers


[01-May-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Which* political signs?


[01-May-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently there's a rumor going around that TLoU2 leaks are because of disgruntled employee owing to Naughty Dog pulling a "how about we pay you less now, but giv you a bonus based on how well it sells" setup which of course went sour cause indefinite delays. Is that a common industry practice, @Teaspoon?


[01-May-20 05:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'd personally assume yes, if Borderlands 3 is anything to go by 🤷


[01-May-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie All of them. They used to have a flat rule, were told that they couldn't do that, and are changing it to only 30 days before, signs must be down by 5 days after election, can't be more than one or two normal signs etc


[01-May-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[01-May-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348225722487144458/705612462422228992/EW2nov5WoAMcI6U.png

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[01-May-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He realizes Deus Ex and all cyberpunk is an extreme parody of people exactly like him, right?


[01-May-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a "TESLA INC BRAND ROCKETS- YOUR TRIP TO THE OFFWORLD COLONIES" sign at night, in the rain, surrounded by Coca-Cola signs in Japanese


[01-May-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A flying car blasts by, with a guy getting an important tele-fax as he eludes sky patrol


[01-May-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
that's actually sane tho


[01-May-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
having a political sign continuously in your yard means you're a cultist, not a party member


[01-May-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-qanon-devotee-live-streamed-her-trip-to-ny-to-take-out-joe-biden

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[01-May-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
```He realizes Deus Ex and all cyberpunk is an extreme parody of people exactly like him, right?```


[01-May-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
in the case of DE, less a parody, more a pretty credible prediction of the future.


[01-May-20 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I can see why he'd enjoyed it or pretended to.


[01-May-20 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
enough to put it as his pic.


[01-May-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
well we're already past Blade Runner which is the visual standard for cyberpunk, but the thing about it is high tech low class which pretty accurately describes at least urban parts of the US. Sadly it didn't come with the merging of English and like 5 Sino languages


[01-May-20 06:28 AM] Honahue#0656
Also the huge corporations that control everything about your life have childish names, Weyland Yutani or Tyrell Corporation are name you can respect instead we got Google and Disney and Amazon


[01-May-20 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
why do ppl livestream this expecting not to be caught


[01-May-20 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they don't expect to be "caught" period


[01-May-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They think they're completely in the right and if they do record it or livestream it, it's to be proof that they were right and the law is not


[01-May-20 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then there are people who are just stupid and know what they're doing is wrong but that's bragging rights


[01-May-20 06:51 AM] byte[]#2610
these people think life is like an action movie


[01-May-20 06:52 AM] jlun2#8758
0/10 too much sleep


[01-May-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking no signs ever is a very Boomer thing


[01-May-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about not rokking the boat.


[01-May-20 07:03 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not even a boomer sentiment


[01-May-20 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just one people most people hold in general


[01-May-20 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@Nebbie That only happens if the company is bordering bankrupcy


[01-May-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
How has Naughty Dog been doing lately?


[01-May-20 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No idea, last person I know that worked there left 4ish years ago


[01-May-20 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Said they chewed through junior artists, though


[01-May-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/1238199242256052224

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[01-May-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony


[01-May-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still needs to meet demands, even if they're not allowed to die


[01-May-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This, though, is a giant ass motherfucking red flag


[01-May-20 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Naughty Dog is known for its unique way of handling game development, as the studio does not have a producer in either of their teams.


[01-May-20 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naughty_Dog#Development_philosophy>


[01-May-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://kotaku.com/as-naughty-dog-crunches-on-the-last-of-us-ii-developer-1842289962

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One Friday night last month, some artists at the video game studio Naughty Dog were working on their latest game when they heard a crash. A large metal pipe had fallen from above them and landed right next to their desks. If it had dropped a few feet closer, the consequences m...
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[01-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Naughty Dog philosophy amounts to "oh hey, Jim, you can manage everyone else on your team suddenly, for the week, sure?"


[01-May-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That reeks of self bullying inside teams as dominant personalities, divas, and savants take control and lead the way


[01-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't hire managers, just randomly put people in charge on top of their existing work.


[01-May-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
...wow "One Friday night last month, some artists at the video game studio Naughty Dog were working on their latest game when they heard a crash. A large metal pipe had fallen from above them and landed right next to their desks. If it had dropped a few feet closer, the consequences might have been dire. It was late, past 9 p.m., and the construction workers above had perhaps recklessly assumed that nobody was there. But at Naughty Dog, people were always there."


[01-May-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Working at Naughty Dog means designing beloved, critically acclaimed games alongside artists and engineers who are considered some of the greatest in their fields. But for many of those same people, it also means working 12-hour days (or longer) and even weekends when the studio is in crunch mode, sacrificing their health, relationships, and personal lives at the altar of the game."


[01-May-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they're working people literally 12 hours a day, with night shifts...and 70 percent turnover between games.


[01-May-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, high churn from burnout, bullying, and realizing they're not in the old boys club so little chance of moving up


[01-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
With almost nobody really in charge and no interaction with their parent company, it seems.


[01-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welp, this might kill them.


[01-May-20 07:13 AM] jlun2#8758
how do hey keep getting people to join


[01-May-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big name titles


[01-May-20 07:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that grew up playing these games (Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, etc) and people that look up to them for their current successes


[01-May-20 07:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Heck, there are people joining the industry now that would've seen Uncharted as "foundational" for their desire to work in games


[01-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like TLoU2 has been in development hell.


[01-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Massive rewrites of everything.


[01-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not helped by a big churn of people.


[01-May-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that churn means losing the great talent they had...


[01-May-20 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it's expensive


[01-May-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then junior people come in and are demanded to be the best of the best.


[01-May-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means doing things three times over.


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
how do those junior ppl get experience


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
By being roasted over an open fire by upper management, it seems.


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
meant getting experience to even join the first place


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
By knowing a guy who worked there.


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
dont they all need like degree and 3+ years of xp


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
oh


[01-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well a degree yes


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
and maybe a year or two doing some random shit.


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what's the best part of all of this to me? I know some disagree, but these games would be mediocre as the actual movies they want to be.


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, seems like they are BANKING on TLoU2, with a continual promise that once it ships, things will improve.


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone working massive overtime to get things close to done, and still things get delayed.


[01-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Delays mean less money for the same potential product return.


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Naughty Dog games would be mediocre as movies.


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their stories aren't particularly mature.


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All this and if they made a simple Crash Bandicoot game I bet most people would like it more than any of this.


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] jlun2#8758
how do they even finish anything with this type of "planning"


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the talent from what I've seen goes into performance and visuals.


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At this point like


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are an active part of why gaming is constantly LOOK AT THE DETAILS


[01-May-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It started with Crash


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have the major cinematic sequences be FMV


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then cut to the game


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash Bandicoot literally rewrites PS1 firmware on the fly


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
to be able to run


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also streams from the CD at all times


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
constant reads at max capacity


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that's why my PS1 always sounded like it was going to explode


[01-May-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it swaps out portions of the level as you go


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash Bandicoot renders so much shit that they bypass the normal way to talk to the GPU


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Crash Bandicoot isn't even that intensive compared to other 3D stuff...


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they rewrite the firmware


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duuude


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash Bandicoot on original PS1


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
is beyond its stated capabilities


[01-May-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash has way more polygons than most PS1 characters


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naughty Dog wanted everything to look good, and to hav tons of shit on the screen at all times for an active game.


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still, my argument is that they should just make a simple Crash Bandicoot 4 or something to alleviate all of this bloat.


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like for the PS5.


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds horrific, and would completely fall apart if a memory leak was found that caused a "simple" level to fail to load into that tiny amount of memory@Nebbie


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash has very good memory optimization


[01-May-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They chunk things and constantly swap out bits.


[01-May-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Crash 1 blew people's minds.


[01-May-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Crash and Spyro remakes are probably the best selling remakes ever, which is odd considering how trashed those franchises were in the 00s


[01-May-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crash 1 outsold its sequel at times, Its.


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anyone was trashing it, they were probably also playing it on the side.


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Studios always have people in them that go "We should just make a few small, simple, polished games", but the people that make the decisions are always "I want us to be awarded the first Oscar for a videogame ever"


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean once both left the PS1 they became shit


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, once you've got PS2, there's no reason to innovate


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really push things


[01-May-20 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a later Crash game I think in 360 that is just shitposts


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in every cinematic is a new art style


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The console has enuff memory for all your animations and such.


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sometimes it's WB, sometimes South Park, sometimes puppets etc


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, at a certain point


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need to do something just to be artsy and stand out.


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Artistic savant types don't want to just hit a peak and stay there.


[01-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to always push something.


[01-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This can be great at standing out and making money from it.


[01-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also can be terribly risky because if the new ideas don't work then the game fails.


[01-May-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/ZWO2hYX1P8E

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWO2hYX1P8E
Crash: Mind Over Mutant Cutscene: I'm Not Your Buddy, Guy
Uncle Crasher!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZWO2hYX1P8E/hqdefault.jpg


[01-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason that a lot of Zelda games are just the previous game with a new story and a slightly different style.


[01-May-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when they're doing new stuff like BotW, they also do rereleases.


[01-May-20 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah I think they bet it all on BoTW


[01-May-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wind Waker HD tho


[01-May-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Ocarina of Time 3D


[01-May-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are huge moneymakers


[01-May-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still kinda wish they went all the way with their breaking of the mold and had the original BoTW idea


[01-May-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the Uncharted series, isn't it that shit with tons of mocap done like a damn MCU movie just to tell a story about generic explorer guys fighting cartels?


[01-May-20 07:29 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe just pay all the employees enough to not worry about their bill, innovation doesn't come from increased pay


[01-May-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern world, aliens, Link has a guitar etc


[01-May-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Master Cycle shows they considered it for a while at least


[01-May-20 07:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Innovation doesn't come from increased pay, but people are less likely to leave the company if they're paid a lot


[01-May-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of these big Sony over the shoulder third person adventures


[01-May-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are movies with QTEs


[01-May-20 07:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, my girlfiend got a job elsewhere" is suddenly not a good reason to move because you'd still be making more than her


[01-May-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But as its the games industry, if your SO gets pretty much any tech job, they're the bread maker


[01-May-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard a really negative opinion that if you are smart you stay away from games and do other stuff, and that the games industry preys on idealists basically


[01-May-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who may or may not be as talented as they believe


[01-May-20 07:32 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking i wonder how long are game companies going to keep pushing "games as movies with QTEs" before ppl stop buying


[01-May-20 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If your goal is money, you do not work in games


[01-May-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone press X now to Jason


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're an engineer, at least


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Games industry is about big new ideas turned immediately into extreme commoditization.


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're a writer or artist or the like, it's still a good industry


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] jlun2#8758
i cant even get hired by tech compnies :sad:


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Animators and VFX artists are worth less than chips in the film industry


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect it's better than movies for writing because it's not some formulaic mess.


[01-May-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But paid average wages in games


[01-May-20 07:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon TIL. How are the film industry getting ppl to crunch on cgi with min wage?


[01-May-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed how the FF7 remake has been in development how long and cost how much


[01-May-20 07:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But for engineers, yeah, people only stick to games because they like the work, prefer not to work at a bank or making some soulless "app"


[01-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure the movie industry is fukking over people because big studios hav big money.


[01-May-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is _the first third of the first disc of the original_


[01-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, "silence the lawsuits" money.


[01-May-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
By having a higher supply of artists than there's demand for them


[01-May-20 07:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> soulless app
isn't that most mobile games


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the thing with FF7 is the original was based on a ton of prerendered bakkgrounds, some cutscenes, and frequently reused models.


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was all made to look okay yet be cheap.


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like most jobs, it got popular, 5-10 years later everyone studied/specialized for it, 5-10 years later the job market is saturated


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern games MANDATE you make fully 3D setpieces and unique character models.


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which take time to make.


[01-May-20 07:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking wait FF7 remake is only part of the original? wtf?


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a part 2 coming, apparently.


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah they were afraid to call it episode 1 or something


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Opponent#3498
```I've heard a really negative opinion that if you are smart you stay away from games and do other stuff, and that the games industry preys on idealists basically```
it's a very common opinion over here.


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And mobile games can be souless, yes, but they still offer some creative freedom and challenges, and "failure" for the most part doesn't involve "our financial application just leaked account owner data", just "someone got three gems for free doing this sick trick"


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Opponent#3498
to the point where it can't really be called 'opinion' anymore


[01-May-20 07:37 AM] Opponent#3498
working retail is considered better than software engineer for gamedesign


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
literally anything is better.


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
starving on the street is competitive


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent i failed a bunch of courses hire me pls


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
gamedev, not much use for game designers outside the game industry...


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But guys


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy has a realistic Mario running in a stock Unity asset field


[01-May-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo needs to hire him!


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like CGI artists need to unionize to stikk it to Hollywood, then spread that to games.


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And those are generally paid pretty well given studios only have a handful of them, plus is probably the most rewarding position as you basically decide everything


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought ppl hate unions


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, they'd need the respect of the writers to do that.


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise writers union would screw them over.


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, but in the entertainment industry, unions are common in the traditional jobs.


[01-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Union electricians, union prop designers, union actors, union writers.


[01-May-20 07:40 AM] jlun2#8758
but not union artists?


[01-May-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unions have become so unpopular and uncommon that people don't even realize you can't make jokes about busting them


[01-May-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And get mad that they can't


[01-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well bakk in the day, there weren't artists drawing the literal sets.


[01-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd just do concept art.


[01-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unions tend to be really specialized.


[01-May-20 07:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Unpopular in the US you mean


[01-May-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unions in the US are also basically permanently latched to the interests of management and the economy


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal is always "We need to get back to work"


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that writers strike over the DVD rights thing was retarded.


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] jlun2#8758
> We need to get back to work
wheres my robot doing all the jobs i was promised


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There should not be separate rights per recording medium.


[01-May-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man


[01-May-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you ever hear the recording of the last episode of Angry Beavers?


[01-May-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the VAs breaking character and complaining they don't get paid for each airing of an episode during syndication

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[01-May-20 07:43 AM] jlun2#8758
seen cartoon but never heard of it


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Roaylties is a weird expectation


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cartoon VAs will be among the first to go in terms of AI replacement


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like the thing you promote if you want to get replaced by a bot @Itsthinking


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine like


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
you build a table


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] jlun2#8758
sure it sounds weird as hell, but at least its cheaper


[01-May-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone buys the table


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are so many people working on things that if you give royalties everyone gets, like, 0.05 cents, or there are always people left out, and then they're the next ones to demand royalties


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get paid your wage, BUT


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
you also get paid every time anyone uses the table


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the table plays ads


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And absolutely yes


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like silicon valley wet dream


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] jlun2#8758
smart table


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/XtAhISkoJZc

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chop suey but everything is a table
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[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
VA's are going to get axed FAST


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pushing hard to replace ours with AI


[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should be paid for something getting *made*, not for every time it's used.

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[01-May-20 07:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Working with VAs for games is complete trash


[01-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just ties compensation to popularity over time which can be a serious problem for predictable levels of compensation.


[01-May-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are people out there getting $0.50 checks a month for Space Jam


[01-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man the Jak 3 developer commentary things.


[01-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They said like


[01-May-20 07:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You need to hire the studio, the actor, the director, the sound engineer, which means you need to produce a high number of lines to make the recording "worth it" or you're just tossing money into a fire pit


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
that one character who's a cultist or something and has white paint on his body


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
his VA never physically met with anyone


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For a performance than you could spoof with fifteen.AI and a few hours of editing


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they told him originally his character would be dying


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he did this super raspy voice that was terrible


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then they rewrote that part a bit


[01-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they had no time rerecord


[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he just out of nowhere sounds like he's been smoking 2 pakks a day and has leukemia


[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
as he casually hands Jak some thing and then is never seen again.

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[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Incidentals will go first


[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
hillarious but ultimately irrelevant :shrugpony:


[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why pay someone to make oof noises


[01-May-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I bet there was a lot of deepest lore going on around it.


[01-May-20 07:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking pay big name stars to make oof noise :bigbrain:


[01-May-20 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
JUST A THEORY. A GAAAAAAAAYM THEORY


[01-May-20 07:49 AM] jlun2#8758
I hate those videos. it pollutes the other game theory search results @Opponent


[01-May-20 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a stupid trend in general I think.


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
or


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I lost all respect for that channel with the "The Federation is FASCIST" vid


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
it got stupid when it became a trend, would be better way to put it.


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the vid about GoT's people and objects being double scale.


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the one who gave the Pope Undertale right


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think so.


[01-May-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's when I lost my respect.


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seen the Federation vid, Its?


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was this the "playing bad people in games makes you bad" video


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was like


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The Federation uses its military to peacefully explore and controls all transportation, therefore it is fascist"


[01-May-20 07:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent I want the topic on the left, but I keep getting "JUST A THEOGYRHRHDFGRF" garbage

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[01-May-20 07:52 AM] jlun2#8758
and it annoys me to no end


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also believed that Starfleet was in control of the Federation politically.


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, it's a specific channel


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of you know, the President.


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I didn't realise that; thought they were all this obnoxious.


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
also, yeah, I can see the issue.


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] jlun2#8758
they ruined game theory :sad:


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's as if he didn't watch a single episode


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
he just assumed that Starfleet admirals controlled all law


[01-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And couldn't get why civilians would be riding along on military ships of exploration to go places


[01-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
UNLESS MILITARY CONTROLS ALLLLLL


[01-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he must like, think the only options are anarcho-capitalism and fascism


[01-May-20 07:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I always saw federation as just giving enough of a fuck about the military, so civilians could just hop on board and do whatever


[01-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
if your space shuttle isn't built by a private company, but instead the gov't, it's fascism.


[01-May-20 07:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the military itself basically just being space cowboys


[01-May-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair, the IRL Space Shuttle was basically mandated by the DoD in case they needed an anti satellite missile or nuke launched ASAP


[01-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still, like


[01-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
imagine someone arguing the Space Shuttle is evidence America is fascist


[01-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
because you need to rely on an organization that helps build military rokkets to go to space.


[01-May-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an example of the MIC sticking their nose where it didn't belong but yeah


[01-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism btw has nothing to do with privatization or not


[01-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's off-base in like every possible way


[01-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he has a clue how governments work.


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Game Theory has the worst possible takes so probably


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-homeschool-parents-agree-teachers-paid-more-kids

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[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, as for the GoT vid


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is an inconsistency in GoT season 7 where an army marches somewhere that should take twice as long as it did


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> 77 percent of parents agree teachers should be paid more after teaching own kids, study says


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So his solution, @Itsthinking


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to look at Winterfell


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, in the books, its walls are like, 80 feet


[01-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the standin used for filming has 40 foot walls


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So his theory is


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
people, trees, objects


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
everything is actually twice as large as in real life


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
and therefore people move twice as fast


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon so what, this is GOP pro-homeschooling argument pitted against GOP hoax/back-to-work argument?


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
sounds delightful.


[01-May-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's absolutely mental. How do you even come up with that?


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
By not understanding physics.


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He must just say shit to get clicks.


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making people twice as large creates all sorts of problems.


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He can't believe any of it


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Opponent#3498
also entirely unsuprising, the only suprising bit is it's _just_ 77%. Number's way too low. The common modern parenting worldwide is 'give the child a tablet and forget it exists until you forced to remember'


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that scale independence doesn't really exist for physical systems


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not if you have half the gravity!


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
insects can breathe without lungs


[01-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
simple diffusion reaches their tissues


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the average human male being 12 ft


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyway, teacher thing is just an example of people not realizing how much some jobs suck until they have to do them for a day


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it's that Tea.


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many physical processes change with scale, because atoms don't scale up, and neither do forces.


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Similar to gamedev I guess, nobody goes into teaching unless they have a passion for it


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
people are simply used to being able to forget their ~~mistakes~~ offspring exist


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big one is that volume increases greatly and thus mass does


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also


[01-May-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
now it's much more difficult.


[01-May-20 08:00 AM] Opponent#3498
it's inconvenient and they want it gone.


[01-May-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which makes it easy to overheat and hard to move.


[01-May-20 08:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Couldn't the guy have just said "their scales are half of hours"


[01-May-20 08:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why'd he have to go all big brain on it and not just "the king whose feet set the standard was a dwarf / child"

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[01-May-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon the problem is that GRR Martin stated distances OOU.


[01-May-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the distance the army marches, in real world terms, is too much for the given timeframe.


[01-May-20 08:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GRR was into japanese foot crushing

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[01-May-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the guy wanted to make everything said in the book and by the author about its world true


[01-May-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
for a single plothole in a TV show whose standards fell off a cliff.


[01-May-20 08:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did he miss how critical characters died in unrelated scenes or never existed at all in the show?


[01-May-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure he didn't even know the books and show are different canons.


[01-May-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, with the "Federation is Fascist" thing, he didn't even seem to know Starfleet and the Federation aren't the same thing.


[01-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically thought it was like the "Holy See" vs. "Catholic Church" distinction


[01-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
when like, the Federation has its own political system.


[01-May-20 08:04 AM] jlun2#8758
> Basically the guy wanted to make everything said in the book and by the author about its world true
that sounds fanatical


[01-May-20 08:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think he's just a moron looking for things to rant about in clickbait YT videos

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[01-May-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
With minimal research.


[01-May-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think for the FILM THEORY stuff he rushed out vids fast so didn't even do the usual googling to make sure he had a lot of facts.


[01-May-20 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1287000/COVID_The_Outbreak/

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[01-May-20 08:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This will surely be a high quality, well researched, and tactful game and not a rushed ghoulish cashgrab


[01-May-20 08:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe Tim Sweeney was partially right


[01-May-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
> People should be paid for something getting made, not for every time it's used.


[01-May-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
This


[01-May-20 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
This is one of the reasons the modern world is incompatible with capitalism


[01-May-20 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
So much is done over the internet where the cost of making a copy of something is ~virtually nothing


[01-May-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
that threatens entire industries which previously depended on the use of some physical medium to generate vast quantities of revenue


[01-May-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
making a copy of a physical medium or providing some particular experience has a corresponding physical cost associated with it


[01-May-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
making a copy of a file on a remote server? no such thing


[01-May-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
and if you want to get nitpicky about that, internet transit is billed based on flow but it really doesn't cost anything for the providers to give more transit (other than that due to physical limitations of the cables and routers themselves)


[01-May-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it's all small fixed costs


[01-May-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
being used to generate a large stream of revenue


[01-May-20 08:23 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just surprised old industries are still kicking back to this day


[01-May-20 08:23 AM] byte[]#2610
old money sticks around


[01-May-20 08:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately, still can't print food or textiles or computers out of a few resource sludges


[01-May-20 08:25 AM] byte[]#2610
no, which is why it's made in sweatshops in india


[01-May-20 08:25 AM] byte[]#2610
globalized crapitalism at its finest


[01-May-20 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/pence-staff-threatens-action-against-reporter-who-tweeted-about-visit-to-clinic-without-surgical-mask/2020/04/30/27c63056-8b0a-11ea-9dfd-990f9dcc71fc_story.html


[01-May-20 08:26 AM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. pence wins


[01-May-20 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[01-May-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
it'll be either (1) dismissed pursuant to an anti-slapp motion (2) settled out of court


[01-May-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
these kinds of lawsuits are not winnable in the US


[01-May-20 08:28 AM] jlun2#8758
oh wow. i thought the GOP was above the law by now


[01-May-20 08:28 AM] byte[]#2610
they aren't above the courts


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(yet)


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
well no


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
if you bring a problem into the court's domain, you have to play by the court's rules


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't have to threaten suit


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Trump could, at Pence's directive, instruct the FBI to detain the reporter indefinitely without cause


[01-May-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
(for example)


[01-May-20 08:31 AM] byte[]#2610
and they would be above the law in doing that, and it would be totally unconstitutional


[01-May-20 08:31 AM] jlun2#8758
detain every single democrat :glowing_eyes:


[01-May-20 08:34 AM] byte[]#2610
my point here is that, in a sense, they _are_ above the courts, but sometimes they do stuff which consciously brings them back into realm of unwinnable legal proceedings


[01-May-20 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
they cannot win if the court forces them to play fair


[01-May-20 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
so they mostly avoid the courts


[01-May-20 08:38 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[01-May-20 09:56 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-May-20 11:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw international workers' day is the day chosen by many governors to force minimum wage workers back to work


[01-May-20 11:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
classic america


[01-May-20 12:45 PM] illumnious#7938
While Trump minimizes the toll, government orders 100,000 new body bags https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/while-trump-minimizes-toll-government-orders-100-000-new-body-n1197316

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[01-May-20 01:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Already blew past Trump's "it's just gonna be 60,000" promise anyway


[01-May-20 01:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Convenient of him to stop doing press briefings just when that milestone hit and he was suggesting injecting bleach into people or blasting them with cancer-rays


[01-May-20 01:17 PM] illumnious#7938
This is fuckery


[01-May-20 01:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/aWl7kQZHZE0

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[01-May-20 02:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[01-May-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bolsonaro-says-who-sexualizing-young-children-deleted-post-2020-4

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[01-May-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>bolsonaro
Man, aka a country hearing "There's no way a country could elect someone worse than Trump" and responded with "hold my beer"


[01-May-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump that didn't alienate the military.


[01-May-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
yep, that's about as bad as it gets.


[01-May-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
well, you could also get cannibalism and mass executions, but only Africa or the Balkans did that level of comedic grimdark in modern times.


[01-May-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if cannibalism was profitable, bolsanaro would probably do that too


[01-May-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
it's simply too expensive of a PR project.


[01-May-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
the initial investment would take ages to pay off.


[01-May-20 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-May-20 02:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.fastcompany.com/90499409/amazon-walmart-target-mega-strike-heres-what-to-know-about-the-sprawling-protest

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Workers across the pandemic’s front lines plan to strike together this Friday, on International Workers’ Day.
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[01-May-20 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't know Amazon was HQed in Angola


[01-May-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
odds are, Angola doesn't either.


[01-May-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1255957837227986954?s=20

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[01-May-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495629-trump-urges-michigans-whitmer-to-make-a-deal-with-those-protesting

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Trump urges Michigan's Whitmer to 'make a deal' with those protesti...
President Trump on Friday urged Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) to negotiate and “make a deal” with those protesting her stay-at-home order in the state.
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[01-May-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure, sure. The deal is: they go the fuck home and michigan can maybe end it sooner without a spike in deaths and sickness


[01-May-20 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-May-20 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the terrorists are good people apparently


[01-May-20 04:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[01-May-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
we already knew that in US, like in Soviet Union memes, the president encourages anti-government terrorism.


[01-May-20 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if all of these armed protesters were black, they would be dead as shit right now


[01-May-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495610-texas-coronavirus-deaths-hit-one-day-high-ahead-of-reopening

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Texas coronavirus deaths hit one-day high ahead of reopening
Texas on Thursday experienced its deadliest day of the coronavirus pandemic, reporting 50 new deaths just one day before Gov.
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[01-May-20 06:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They're good people because they're not minorities :smugcaddy:


[01-May-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-cities-legal-action-close-beaches-2020-5

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2 California cities want to sue the state for making them close bea...
Two litigious beach cities in Orange County say Gov. Newsom's order closing California's beaches is unnecessary.
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[01-May-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-officials-stop-publishing-coronavirus-death-toll-data-2020-4

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Florida officials are no longer publishing the state's medical exam...
The death data from Florida's medical examiners "is no different than any other public record," Dr. Stephen Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times.
https://i.insider.com/5eaaddac42278d5c87333422?width=1200&format=jpeg


[01-May-20 06:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
orange county, the florida of california


[01-May-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, califlorida


[01-May-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is that Bolsonaro thing the same as Poland's line of "if you tell children that sex exists and how to do it properly and not get raped, you're encouraging them to do it!"?


[01-May-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495519-maryland-governor-says-coronavirus-tests-acquired-from-south-korea-under

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Maryland governor says coronavirus tests acquired from South Korea ...
Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said Thursday that thousands of coronavirus tests obtained by the state from South Korea are currently protected in an undisclosed location by the Maryland National Guard.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hoganlarry_061819getty.jpg


[01-May-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s disturbing that it;s come to this :hopeless:


[01-May-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need to use our military to stop our own goddamned feds


[01-May-20 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump: "WHERE ARE THE TEST KITS, HOGAN?
Hogan: "test kits? W-what test kits? Are you sure you're talking to the right governor?"
Trump: "I WILL FIND YOUR FUCKING TEST KITS AND WHEN I DO YOU'LL BE MEAT"


[01-May-20 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
The crazier thing is that this guy is an (R)


[01-May-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I need those test kits for the kushner hoard, Hogan!"


[01-May-20 07:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure the fed's behavior would be perfectly excusable once someone turns up the evidence that they're also trying to source supply chains on their own, *and* that the redistribution they're doing is actually proportional to need and not political convenience, *and* that they are actually distributing them at all


[01-May-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Made this in a few minutes

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[01-May-20 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
LET'S GO https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/01/canada-assault-weapons-ban-trudeau-nova-scotia-shooting

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Trudeau announces Canada is banning assault-style weapons
Move comes after murder of 22 people in worst mass shooting in Canada’s history
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[01-May-20 07:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause to a numpty like me it sure looks like they're taking them for free from people who paid for them and giving them for free to a political friend with a brand-new business selling them to whoever he feels like which might include people who need them or who paid for them originally but there's no way to tell because of 0 oversight


[01-May-20 07:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau grew a beard and now he's going to take the damn guns **away**.


[01-May-20 07:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
OH BOY CANADA WHAT


[01-May-20 07:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nooo my plan of overthrowing capitalism in Canada :sad:


[01-May-20 07:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Justin, didn't you learn anything from us trying to do that


[01-May-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think he did.


[01-May-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He learned that you need to just fukking punch conservatives in their damn jaws.


[01-May-20 07:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean it does have public support


[01-May-20 07:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I can't help but wonder at how arbitrarily the guns this applies to will be defined. If it is literally on a case-by-case basis without any attempt at a "definition," I think that might ultimately be *better*


[01-May-20 07:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can't have loopholes if there's nothing to put a loophole in to begin with


[01-May-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm tired of that bullshit, Wing.


[01-May-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
At some point, the gov't just needs to start listing things.


[01-May-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, rules might be inconsistent.


[01-May-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, rules might not be intuitive.


[01-May-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
But rules need to exist.


[01-May-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they can be improved.


[01-May-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
What we need, and I am very serious here, is for a country to step up and write the damn rules.


[01-May-20 07:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then when people go WHAT IZ AN ASSAULT WEPONZ????? we go "here's the list retard, fukk off and die"


[01-May-20 07:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
US with like 8 mass shootings in two months: "Not All White Men also 8chan is bad #freedom4lyf"
Canada with one mass shooting in like 20 years: "Guns are now banned. You fuckers blew it."


[01-May-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau might save his reputation doing this.


[01-May-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
His main problem is he's been constantly bending over for conservatives on oil shit


[01-May-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
then they shaft him anyways when it blows up in his face


[01-May-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, it never works to compromise with these shits.


[01-May-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to PRETEND to compromise while actually putting fukking timebombs under them that will screw them over at every turn.


[01-May-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way, they think you're their lapdog, then everything explodes under them.


[01-May-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
My hope here is, Trudeau learned from the scandals just how bad it goes when you go "yep I'll take the middle path and get that oil pipeline going"


[01-May-20 07:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that he now knows the proper way is political gorilla warfare. Publicly announce this thing, build traps into it, wait for conservatives to walk in, ambush them on TV with leaked documents about how they plan to not care what's actually in it, then make the rules he proposes even stricter in response and force them to say that they're in favor of mass shootings happening.


[01-May-20 07:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Best of all, catch American conservatives shoveling money in.


[01-May-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, @WingbeatPony, I'm hoping for a lot here, but I've got a feeling this is the perfect setup for Trudeau.


[01-May-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will trip over themselves trying to stop new gun restrictions. That's an opportunity. Trudeau could utterly smash them while they're down and then start catering to liberals so that he reverses the trajectory he's been on (heading towards minority in parliament).


[01-May-20 07:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I'm trying to say is "any gun adopted by a military or produced for military use" is a great definition, "any gun derived from an AR-15 in operation" is good, "any semiautomatic rifle with a black stock and grip" is not


[01-May-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman TRUDEAU SMASH.


[01-May-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure they won't use any of those particulars.


[01-May-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note two semi-auto pistols were involved here.


[01-May-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trudeau might ban private ownership of semi-automatic weapons entirely.


[01-May-20 07:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good on him if he does.


[01-May-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to hunt? Bolt action.


[01-May-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw, he specifically promised to ban the Ruger Mini-14


[01-May-20 07:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
it has a brown stokk.


[01-May-20 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
> political gorilla warfare

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[01-May-20 07:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
banning specific models of guns would be a "case-by-case basis," yes


[01-May-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, just banning ownership alone wouldn't do anything to stop what the gunman did


[01-May-20 07:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
hence I suspect that Trudeau will tie in provisions to find illegal gun sales.


[01-May-20 07:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's suspected some of the guns were bought in Canada.


[01-May-20 07:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is gonna rankle the "collectors of historical firearms" groups, too, I'd wager - 'cause even if there is someone out there with a war-trophy gun their nazi-fighting grandfather brought home they're going to try and argue for their right to sell it


[01-May-20 07:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good.


[01-May-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The appropriate response to conservatives is to make them angry, and then make them make fools of themselves with their irrational desire to see people continue to suffer.


[01-May-20 07:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the other hand, I do think there's some validity to the argument that if there *is* a rare historical gun that would otherwise be banned, that it should be allowed to remain in existence as a wallhanger (and would need to have some merit on the grounds of historical preservation for not deactivating it)


[01-May-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[01-May-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take it from the owner.


[01-May-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put it in a museum.


[01-May-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
No private ownership.


[01-May-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want it on your wall? Fill the barrel with resin.


[01-May-20 07:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in other words, "you wanna treat your gun collection like a museum? Fine. Here's the paperwork to become a museum. Get to it." ?


[01-May-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much.


[01-May-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to keep dangerous historical shit? Okay, then just show us you hav everything set up to do so properly.


[01-May-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
History shouldn't languish in the attics of senile people.


[01-May-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nor should it be something that can be randomly sold at a yard sale and end up being used to kill with.


[01-May-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
that, or they're getting rid of Trudeau.


[01-May-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
the latter would ultimately be more helpful.


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
> History shouldn't languish in the attics of senile people.
and the worse of all, I'm well aware of the tendency for elders to not communicate the importance of their stuff well enough, and once they die the piece of history gets dumped as trash due to ignorance


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't getting rid of Trudeau.


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
4 out of 5 Canadians want this.


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
do they even vote tho


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was the campaign promise that got his party to retain a majority.


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
we'll see how it goes.


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] jlun2#8758
or nah only 1/5 votes and they are like GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNS


[01-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fulfilling a campaign promise 80% of the population wants generally goes pretty well.


[01-May-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes you look like you hav integrity while also pleasing most people.


[01-May-20 07:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And for what it's worth, I think the "be a museum" response, if they did do that, mollifies or negates a lot of the MUH GUNZ arguments


[01-May-20 07:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
freedom *and* responsibility, not freedom *from* it


[01-May-20 07:42 PM] jlun2#8758
>  not freedom from it
orange man intensifies :glowing_eyes:


[01-May-20 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
US overcame AWB. Here's hoping Canada will overcome this nonsence as well.


[01-May-20 07:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm really rooting for opponent to overcome his brain lesions :)


[01-May-20 07:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, from what I'm gathering from this conversation, the states' AWB is a completely different beast from what Trudeau is proposing here


[01-May-20 07:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the AWB was a case study in reactionary law making uninformed decisions


[01-May-20 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
ooh, personal insults. Nah, brian damage is usually permanent. Can compensate for it, can't really recover.


[01-May-20 07:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not helping your case


[01-May-20 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
thankfully it doesn't matter for the fate of Canada and it's firearms community. It's good to be an observer, in this way.


[01-May-20 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
as for your opinion of me, well, there are worse things in the world. That don't matter much either.


[01-May-20 07:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just...compare how you reacted to this news with how I did. I *also* had concerns comparing it to the AWB, but when pressed, I voiced those concerns and had them addressed. You turtled back into your opinions and declared that mine don't matter. See the difference?


[01-May-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well, why would I put in this effort?


[01-May-20 07:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Exactly.


[01-May-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I know Nebbie basicly came instantly when he heard the news.

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[01-May-20 07:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's why byte accuses you of brain damage


[01-May-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I know byte and Intexda support him unconditionally


[01-May-20 07:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I know I'll lose if I get dragged into a dishonest argument with shifting goalposts that Nebbie's so fond of. He applies the theory he preaches into these arguments (make the opposition angry, set up traps, corral them into them, win in the eyes of the onlookers; can't really have an electorate on the discord server usually)


[01-May-20 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
we've been there.


[01-May-20 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
the fuck's the point then? I state my argument and go on existing, changing anyone's mind here isn't happening.


[01-May-20 07:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, I guess the years I've spent chatting with byte and nebbie were spent oblivious to all the unconditional support we all must share. Must've been distracted by our frequent arguments


[01-May-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
didn't mention you, but okay.


[01-May-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I should note that in general I feel Wingbeat is against me on most gun control discussions, he seems to readily jump to BUT WHAT IF THE RULES ARE BAD? which I consider to be bad form on this stuff.


[01-May-20 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
intexda is just an anti-republican robot :bot:


[01-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
(it's basically a strawman; banning particular guns identified by a common expression does not mean "BLAKK STOKK BAD")


[01-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Virtually no other kind of political discussion goes that way.


[01-May-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
You talk about UBI, nobody brings up some particular form of it that failed.


[01-May-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Talk about universal healthcare, nobody says the NHS denying care to smokers or fat people based on local council decisions is bad therefore any attempt is bad.


[01-May-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho that'd be obvious "death panel" fodder, it's just not what gets brought up.


[01-May-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, my main frustration with most political arguments is that people are predictable and often just parrot something common rather than trying to invent new lines of reasoning from scratch.


[01-May-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, people should be angry that drug companies are stiffing the gov't and thus taxpayers.


[01-May-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not just individuals.


[01-May-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Epipens being legally mandated while the company holds a patent on an idea done many times by others is essentially a way to twist the law to extort money out of taxpayers.


[01-May-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some conservative argues that taxpayer money shouldn't be going to waste, and that companies can be free to charge whatever they want? **Ask them about that**


[01-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they're okay with it, that tells you they they value company freedoms *above taxpayer money being wasted*.


[01-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a horrific set of ideals I think a lot of people actually hav.


[01-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm pretty sure if you expose them actually having it, most people won't listen to them, because that's absolutely bonkers.


[01-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Companies having freedom of charging stuff should come dead last behind concerns like gov'ts forcing effective monopolies at the whims of companies.


[01-May-20 08:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and while I readily admit that I basically strawman...well, everything I debate, a lot of my concerns over the AWB and the ATF's guidelines in general is that it has led to the development of guns that exploit those loopholes. There's nothing really *wrong* with this gun, for instance, but it's "technically" a pistol

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[01-May-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for people to make a cheap 3d printed gun to avoid laws


[01-May-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
but that turns out to be more difficult (the cheap part i mean)
plastic guns also explode in 1 use


[01-May-20 08:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and so you see things like this *or 3d printed guns, which are just completely impractical come up a lot as poster children for NRA-style arguments for abolishing the ATF


[01-May-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think anything that excludes pistols is bad.


[01-May-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rate of fire is the primary concern.


[01-May-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not range.


[01-May-20 08:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And so my takeaway from the whole debate is that no obviously we need gun laws, but the ones we have right now are in fact stupid


[01-May-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I admit I need to get better about being less robotic with politics and get better at debating


[01-May-20 08:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
where "stupid" is defined as "does not solve the intended problem and in many ways has made the problem worse"


[01-May-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
US gun law has always been stupid.


[01-May-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's designed that way to appease conservatives.


[01-May-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They *want* loopholes, and an inept ATF.


[01-May-20 08:10 PM] jlun2#8758
> appease conservatives
pls kill this


[01-May-20 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US is the prime reason I say that appeasement doesn't work.


[01-May-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
We saw the results of President Clinton.


[01-May-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
He made Reagan's American even more of a horror story for young people.


[01-May-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
All just to get one more term in office by going "no no, you don't need to vote Republican, I'll suppress the gays and the poor too!"


[01-May-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they still bit at him with impeachment, and put in place the assholish Bush


[01-May-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
complete with secret CIA blakksites torturing innocent people to death.


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
btw president Gore probably wouldn't've been terribly much better.


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
> I'll suppress the gays and the poor too
do those laws ever work? I swear no matter the politician elected that cracks down on them I keep finding people there (online) publically posting for gay commission work


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gore was a lot like Clinton


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
some even post their own names


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton's gay suppression wasn't like, making gay sex illegal


[01-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was DADT and DOMA


[01-May-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gay people weren't allowed to marry. If they did marry, the federal gov't denied that they were married, even tho the states control marriage.


[01-May-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
DADT was a compromise on military service, the idea being "as long as you don't talk about being gay, we won't throw you out"


[01-May-20 08:14 PM] jlun2#8758
> Defense of Marriage Act 
that sounds boomer as fuck.


[01-May-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
in practice tho, it was "if anybody ever finds out about you being gay, **and we _will_, just not by specifically asking**, you are toast"


[01-May-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a reactionary response to Hawaii considering legalizing gay marriage


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans were basically having seizures at the thought


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Clinton wasn't eager for a big fight for something his party didn't really believe in (at the time)


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the Boomers voted that if a state allows gay marriage, it's not really marriage


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is **unconstitutional**, btw


[01-May-20 08:15 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds like the type of parents who would insist on expensive weddings, knowing their kids most likely would go in debt for it, just because "thats the way we done it"


[01-May-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
not that conservatives ever cared about that.


[01-May-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a word they like to use whenever Obamacare comes up, and not when their own stuff actually is it.


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Al Gore is a conservative.


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thing to recognize is that the 2000 election was conservative retard vs. conservative normie


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
a weird conservative who cares about the environment


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
We chose the dumb guy.


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
but not about the people


[01-May-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, conservatives were okay with caring about the environment, just as long as you kept the pollution near blakk people


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
global warming was a problem because it hurt white people too


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
that wasn't gore's thing


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] jlun2#8758
> global warming was a problem because it hurt white people too
dont they just post truth it away and blame god punishment or whtevert


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
McCain ran partly on a platform of "Obama won't do shit about Global Warming, but I will"


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then he chose a running mate who wanted to "drill baby drill"


[01-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
it didn't go well for him.


[01-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The message conservatives got from that was to just say the second thing.


[01-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Global Warming being an actual issue would mean fighting big oil in the end.


[01-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big oil has big money.


[01-May-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
infinite money via government


[01-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So when Romney came around, he wasn't eager to talk about saving the environment.


[01-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now Trump just outright wants to destroy it.


[01-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party has been deteriorating in front of our very eyes, basically.


[01-May-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were always hypocrites into business, but once upon a time it hadn't quite reached into certain areas.


[01-May-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hilariously, Al Gore I don't think has yet switched parties, so he's one of those "Biden...I guess...dammit why are we giving women rights?" types.


[01-May-20 08:23 PM] jlun2#8758
that last part 🤦


[01-May-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He hates rokk and roll because it has sexuality in it. He wants sexuality kept hidden as he practices adultery.


[01-May-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
All while claiming to be a devout Christian.


[01-May-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
tbh by now I'm positive being christian is a code word for "im depraved as fuck privately"

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[01-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure he'd take no issue with Tara Reade's accusations toward Biden.


[01-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[01-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a convenient facade.


[01-May-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think Gore could switch parties


[01-May-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
he may be a conservative but the Republicans are just too antithetical to his philosophy


[01-May-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[01-May-20 08:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"I won't lie," says woman who then immediately went on to claim that Kushner has done a great job and that no one has died from a lack of ventilators

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[01-May-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
what type of woman


[01-May-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
?


[01-May-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
white house press secretary


[01-May-20 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
who I think would look better if her flowchart of answers didn't span multiple pages of whatever it is she's flipping through


[01-May-20 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's like she's gotta look up every single thing


[01-May-20 08:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayleigh_McEnany

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Kayleigh McEnany (born April 18, 1988) is an American spokesperson, political commentator, and writer. A former CNN contributor, she was appointed national spokesperson for the Republican National Committee in 2017. In February 2019, she was named national press secretary for ...
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[01-May-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
she looks like a fox news female reporter


[01-May-20 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Her approach appears to be to lie fast enough that you can't tell she's lying


[01-May-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
is that what you're sexually attracted to?


[01-May-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
yup just googled it. looks quite like that


[01-May-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] no, irl stuff is gross


[01-May-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[01-May-20 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the same woman, mind you, who has said she'd stop supporting the president if he said he's racist (on CNN) and who claimed that the president would never let coronavirus into the US (on twitter)


[01-May-20 08:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Nebbie yeah i heard but tbh i don't really care that much about it


[01-May-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621042056093106226/705832020059750440/1588353803.png

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[01-May-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is only getting worse


[01-May-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I gotta turn it off, I can't


[01-May-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] wtf and how


[01-May-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
:shrugpony:


[01-May-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495693-trump-says-biden-allegations-more-credible-than-those-made-against

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Trump says Biden allegations more credible than those made against ...
President Trump said Friday that a woman who has accused former Vice President Joe Biden of sexual assault has “far more credibility” than claims made against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
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[01-May-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mare_rescue/status/1251663325395468288

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Pregnant Mare Rescue (@mare_rescue)
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@joanwalsh I knew Tara Reade (Tara McCabe) from 2006 to 2016. She stole from my nonprofit, lied, created stories to obtain sympathy and money. Fled across the nation from Calif. to Georgia to run away from an "abusive X". She is a fraud. Bragged about her work with Biden
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[01-May-20 09:07 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm still not convinced "Pregnant Mare Rescue" isn't a horse ERP club (not a bad thing btw)

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[01-May-20 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I still don't know who to trust but part of me keeps telling myself that all this obsession with details and minutiae about Tara from the Biden Bros might be misguided


[01-May-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just the shit people do to every accuser.


[01-May-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one actually believes all women.


[01-May-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/de6b2131cb75e1e61b5d35d15f9f957e

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Biden flatly declares sexual assault 'never, never happened'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden on Friday emphatically denied all egations from a former Senate staffer that he sexually assaulted her in the early 1990s, declaring...
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[01-May-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
by trump supporter logic, biden is now innocent


[01-May-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
sadly only applies to trump


[01-May-20 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
and im positive biden probably doesnt even remember it, so for all he knows it's "true" he's innocent


[01-May-20 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it is extremely rare for sexual abuse perpetrators to admit wrongdoing


[01-May-20 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52504187

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Elon Musk tweet wipes $14bn off Tesla's value
The tweet was one of several bizarre postings, including a promise to sell his possessions.
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[01-May-20 10:42 PM] Honahue#0656
good job Musk


[01-May-20 10:42 PM] Honahue#0656
he's still a billionaire tho


[01-May-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> "Tesla stock price is too high imo," he said

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[01-May-20 10:42 PM] Honahue#0656
he's gonna get a call from the SEC again


[01-May-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
all right Mr. Shkreli


[01-May-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
time for you to see the inside of a cell


[01-May-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
is it human nature to make incredibly bad decisions on a whim, or is that just a rich person thing?


[01-May-20 10:49 PM] byte[]#2610
human


[01-May-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
but rich people have more influence and so they naturally hurt more people when they make fuckups


[01-May-20 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
I guess it's just amplified in rich people because they aren't used to feeling any of the consequences of their actions


[01-May-20 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every time rich people trying to embiggen mune


[01-May-20 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if one of them try do that but backward???


[01-May-20 10:51 PM] Yuri#4154
Has Musk been off his meds recently or something?


[01-May-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
more money - more impact


[01-May-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
rich people who grew up poor are frequently more responsible


[01-May-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Musk did not grow up poor


[01-May-20 10:52 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems at a certain point people should no longer be allowed personal Twitter access


[01-May-20 10:52 PM] Opponent#3498
cause their shitposting has _reprecussions_


[01-May-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
they'd just shitpost somewhere else


[01-May-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
poor is when you can't buy the latest tech right? 
~probably rich ppl


[01-May-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
most rich people don't have any understanding of what it means to be poor


[01-May-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
at all


[01-May-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
like a lot of them just don't even think poor people exist


[01-May-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
"poor people is that african meme thing right"


[01-May-20 10:53 PM] Honahue#0656
most celebs are smart enough to let someone else handle their social media but being mega rich rots your brain so much you think everything you say is important


[01-May-20 10:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue 
> rots your brain
:nut:


[01-May-20 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
of the ones that are aware poor people exist, many of _those_ think it's a result of "personal responsibility" that they are poor


[01-May-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
an irrelevant platform is w/e


[01-May-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
twitter's too mainstream


[01-May-20 10:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] i been through that on online video games and can relate; hard to understand how ppl are struggling if it's legit difficult to even get into that situation due to ppl you know keep bailing you out


[01-May-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
@Honahue it kind of is, that's the unfortunate part


[01-May-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
you can no longer afford to shitpost in peace and give no shits


[01-May-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
make an anonymous account?


[01-May-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
use 4chan


[01-May-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
like i dont want to attach my name to my fetishes nor shitposts ever


[01-May-20 10:57 PM] Honahue#0656
shit posting by writing them on real paper and tieing them to pigeons


[01-May-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 yes, that's the sane approach


[01-May-20 10:57 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] i thought rich ppl were the ones that go like "what is this 4 chan thing"


[01-May-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
no they do not


[01-May-20 10:57 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah 10 years ago


[01-May-20 10:58 PM] Honahue#0656
now it's pretty mainstream


[01-May-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
just never be allowed to attach your name or your face to your mindstream


[01-May-20 10:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] since you web dev, make a rich people focus anonymous message board lol


[01-May-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not really possible


[01-May-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
so rich people are zombies infected by the money virus


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't determine how wealthy someone is over an internet protocol in an anonymous fashion


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
because money seems to make everyone stupid


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reckless, not stupid


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you can ask them to pay an expensive lump sum or charge a large monthly subscription


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
but that deanonymizes them


[01-May-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, even over bitcoin; bitcoin transactions can be traced


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
recklessness is a form of stupidity


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And sociopathic, harder for rich people to empathize with those that have money problems


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
as for elon


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
ol musky boi has been having a bit of a strong case of unwarranted self importance these past few weeks


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They can afford to be reckless


[01-May-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
your company makes luxury cars, sit down and let the public health leaders do their damn job


[01-May-20 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A well off person can afford to quit their job by making a scene, someone constantly near the red has to be polite to everyone to make sure they don't burn any bridges or close any doors


[01-May-20 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In short, in the words of Karl Marx,


[01-May-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"get riches get stiches"


[01-May-20 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Bougie niggas be like "Alexa how to em🅱️iggen mune"*

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[01-May-20 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As said in chapter 69 of Kapital


[01-May-20 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1256239815256797184

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Tesla stock price is too high imo
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[01-May-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
I'm actually wondering if he actually did that on purpose for some reason


[01-May-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
maybe some sort of insider trading thing


[01-May-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
there's no way he didn't know that tweet would wipe out the value of his company's stock


[01-May-20 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe he saw Tesla wasn't going to hit the threshold for him getting a big payout and instead dumped a tonne of money in some "against market trends" thing


[01-May-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a rickroll, isn't it


[01-May-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No apparently it's just a very barebones "article"


[01-May-20 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some say they're updating


[01-May-20 11:34 PM] Honahue#0656
low the stocks get a bail out from the covid relief buy back the stocks at a lower price I dunnp


[02-May-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato I finally figured out how my bank computes interest for my savings account https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAEASE5GjdI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAEASE5GjdI
Imaginary interest rates | Lockdown math ep. 5
Compound interest, e, and how it relates to circles.
Full playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZHQObOWTQDP5CVelJJ1bNDouqrAhVPev
Home page: https://www.3blue1brown.com
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Great Mathologer video:
https://youtu.be/-dhHrg-Kb...
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[02-May-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
> FED ANNOUNCES Q3 TRANSLATION OF INTEREST RATES LATERALLY 
> 
> Earlier today at 2:71PM, the Federal reserve administration staff announced publicly that the institution would pursue an interest rate of (0.866 + 0.5i)% for the next financial quarter of this year. 
> 
> When pressed for his reasoning on this precise number, the Reserve Chairman said "Complex times call for Complex solutions," adding, "Money has always been imaginary, so we thought it was due time that we would finally make it literal."
> 
> In response to this news, instead of falling, the Nasdaq proceeded to spin uncontrollably with the Dow following close behind. We tried to reach out to major economic firms to explain this behavior, but denied our request for more information in an official statement saying "We understand the magnitude of the situation right now, but we feel it is best to delay our explanation until we resolve a few internal arguments as to the specifics."


[02-May-20 12:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's just one big circlejerk


[02-May-20 12:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well, a unit circlejerk


[02-May-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
this entire comment is a bigbrain pun


[02-May-20 12:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But were the arguments principal


[02-May-20 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_vUw_AnCe4

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Well There's Your Problem Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_vUw_AnCe4
Well There's Your Problem | BONUS EPISODE 5 PREVIEW: COLLEGE
this is an episode about college where liam's chair squeaks a lot

full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/36625279
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g_vUw_AnCe4/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348225722487144458/705921779641745439/1588374232236.png

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[02-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elon really needs to cut his Internet when he smokes


[02-May-20 01:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[02-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude I've been telling you


[02-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
going to Mars isn't about scientific advancement or anything


[02-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the rich people believing they can literally leave the planet as they destroy it with industry.


[02-May-20 01:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Elon is doing a "complete jackass" run of deus ex. he is unable to tell the difference between the game and reality.


[02-May-20 01:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Today is Labours' Day


[02-May-20 01:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Do westerners have 5 day holiday on labours day?


[02-May-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahahha no


[02-May-20 01:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... We here labors have 5 days off


[02-May-20 01:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And capitalists giving speeches to the public


[02-May-20 01:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And most of them will be scolded...


[02-May-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
western laborers continue to work


[02-May-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
no recognition


[02-May-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In many states, businesses are now reopening.


[02-May-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will be a disaster.


[02-May-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/tower-of-terror

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https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/tower-of-terror
Episode 65: Tower Of Terror
We talk to author Jathan Sadowski (twitter.com/jathansadowski) about the rise of SmartCities, covid-19 surveillance states and finally answer the burning question: what is 5G?

https://mitpress.mit.ed
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[02-May-20 02:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Brace Belden doesn;t want 5G cause it causes cancer but because the internet is already a global gambling addiction


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US doesn't have Labor Day today


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well that and because it'll accelerate hyper automation which under capitalism at least will gut entire communities


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too communist


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's international labor day


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Our labor day is in September


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
which is communist


[02-May-20 02:06 AM] Crow#5457
the US's labor day is for US workers only, which is patriotic


[02-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
also, I hope that podcast isn't saying 5G is bad/dangerous/etc because of the technology


[02-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason 5G is bad is because of capitalism


[02-May-20 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
no it's not that it's cause it'll make the internet better at being an instant gratification machine


[02-May-20 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
but the instant gratification dopamine hit thing is a product of capitalism


[02-May-20 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is also an element of underhanded control since it's the gate to unlock the smart city which is essentially just a massive police state structure.


[02-May-20 02:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it'll accelerate and intensify current police doctrine because it's built on algorithms using police data.


[02-May-20 02:10 AM] Honahue#0656
Brace Belden was PissPigGranddad he's legit fought ISIS with the YPG


[02-May-20 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where poor and minority communities are already over-policed which generates new crime stats which generates more policing which generates more crime stats and so on


[02-May-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that's no reason to say the technology itself shouldn't be implemented, if the potential for abuse of new technology was a reason to stop progressing, we shouldn't have started civilization to begin with


[02-May-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
which is ironically a very conservative take


[02-May-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
5G does not substantially accelerate "instant gratification" in any meaningful way


[02-May-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
4G did that more than any other mobile broadband technology


[02-May-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
and the (counterintuitive?) reason it is able to is because it has to switch less traffic


[02-May-20 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the big towers broadcast 3G and 1X voice on the longer wavelengths at high power


[02-May-20 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
4G is an in-the-weeds deployment with microcells making up most of its infrastructure


[02-May-20 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
at much lower transmit powers


[02-May-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
also yeah, I don't see how 5G is making "instant gratification" any faster


[02-May-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
from what I can tell, its main advantage is that it can handle a metric shitton more traffic than 4G can


[02-May-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it transmits at a higher clock frequency and the timesharing is more efficient


[02-May-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
this doesn't make it "faster," just makes the pipes fatter


[02-May-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
you're unlikely to notice a real difference over 4G


[02-May-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
also, the power levels 5G transmits at are much lower, comparable to 4G picocells


[02-May-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
so opponents of "harmful 5G radiation" might want to consider that 3G and 4G radiation are literally being broadcast through their bodies at _much_ higher power levels than 5G ever would


[02-May-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and even then... those power levels are in the order of milliwatts


[02-May-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
and your body is a terrible antenna so it can't even pick it up


[02-May-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Germany, Spain, France, and I guess a bunch of other euro countries have labour day off


[02-May-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, because they're communist

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[02-May-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
\/s


[02-May-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
International Workers' Day rather


[02-May-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
international = communist


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
you joke, but we had that guy who said he didn't realize increasing the minimum wage was "marxist"


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US celebrated the day by forcing low income workers back to work during a pandemic, with refusal meaning they lose unemployment


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah his complaints about 5G are not about causing cancer that's what Karen antivaxx moms complain about


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
he is... not very bright


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/567472944570433546


[02-May-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And companies that don't open are voluntarily staying closed, so won't get loans either


[02-May-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
multibrony, eech


[02-May-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610

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[02-May-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/04/victory-icann-rejects-org-sale-private-equity-firm-ethos-capital

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[02-May-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
talking about fuckery https://twitter.com/i/events/1256338195949608960

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[02-May-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
are your neighbors rich people?

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[02-May-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I can get behind that


[02-May-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, unequivocally good things can happen in this day and age


[02-May-20 03:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9k6WfX08QY

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[02-May-20 03:08 AM] jlun2#8758
they're all going to get fired


[02-May-20 03:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/02/coronavirus-live-news-dr-fauci-blocked-from-testifying-on-us-response

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Coronavirus live news: Dr Fauci blocked from testifying on US response
The White House says it would be ‘counterproductive’ to allow expert to testify before Congress, as Trump hopes for fewer than 100,000 dead and testing row continues in UK
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[02-May-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My surprise-o-meter didn't even twitch


[02-May-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alex Jones confirmed for eating ass


[02-May-20 03:16 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/may/02/coronavirus-live-news-dr-fauci-blocked-from-testifying-on-us-response
@AlchemistLiang sheesh

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[02-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was looking up unethical medical experimentation stuff, found a case that asked this question


[02-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Does a court...have the power to permit a kidney to be removed from an incompetent ward of the state upon petition of his committee, who is also his mother, for the purpose of being transplanted into the body of his brother, who is dying of a fatal kidney disease?"


[02-May-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The answer is yes.


[02-May-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[02-May-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
spooky


[02-May-20 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
look it's no fun to play if you're using a walkthrough


[02-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah there's no way to hav fun in it at all.


[02-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
One joint on a talk show and they try to take away your security clearance.


[02-May-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mildly hot take


[02-May-20 04:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the 2020 level's been pretty good with the PvE mechanics but the scripted events have been really railroaded


[02-May-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Accusations against SCOTUS nominees should be taken more seriously than against presidents.


[02-May-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A president is gone after 10 years tops.


[02-May-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear take


[02-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
people who lie during the nomination process should be invalidated by an unelected committee.


[02-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh, guilty or not, lied about the meaning of words.


[02-May-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dude you know if Biden were a law student today he never would have been allowed to be a lawyer right?


[02-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[02-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should not allow dishonest people on SCOTUS period.


[02-May-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
A panel of judges should've come in, ruled that Kavanaugh lied, and strukk his nomination down.


[02-May-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS justices can't even be disciplined


[02-May-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Impeachment, technically.


[02-May-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are subject to it.


[02-May-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're judges and should be subject to professional discipline


[02-May-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also what Biden did was plagiarize his law review article, academic dishonesty is a big no-no for "character and fitness"


[02-May-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I only know of one guy personally who was rejected, because he kept getting into bar fights and it was recent.


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alcohol is a big deal for judges


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the main reason impeachment is ever used


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who gets drunk a lot is tossed out.


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Christianity.


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually seems to be relatively uncommon


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because of actual integrity.


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've not seen a modern case about it in what, 20 years?


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but look at successful impeachments.


[02-May-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Almost all of them are related to drunk judges.


[02-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
nvm, those Indiana judges at that White Castle


[02-May-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also this


[02-May-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1294898/in-re-conduct-of-ginsberg/

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[02-May-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Founders: Impeachment, yes! If a judge or president acts unlawfully, hav the legislature remove them! It's low stakes, so we preserve the integrity of the office!
Actuality: Impeachment? Hmm, all he did was bribe people...wait, he GOT DRUNK AND SCREWED SOME GUY'S DAUGHTER? SINNER! REMOVE!


[02-May-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
picture of text


[02-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"When the case was called, Judge Ginsberg stated: "Mrs. [S.], you don't look like the type of person who would drive around police barricades." When the defendant asked to plead guilty with an explanation, Judge Ginsberg stated: "Hang on one second here. Yeah, you're on a ramp. You see the lights, you don't know what to do so you keep going. Reasonable. Did you hurt anybody?" When the defendant explained that no one was hurt and that she had followed another car around the barricades, Judge Ginsberg dismissed the case in its entirety, stating, "this ticket is history." Judge Ginsberg then announced that the defendant was 67 years old and had no driving violations. The gallery applauded. Judge Ginsberg thanked the gallery for showing courtesy to the defendant and gave her $5.00, urging her to buy a cup of coffee before leaving the courthouse. Judge Ginsberg did not ask to hear from the prosecuting attorney before dismissing the case."


[02-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then everyone clapped


[02-May-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big thing there is following another car.


[02-May-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
tf


[02-May-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're following traffic flow, you're basically exempt from traffic law.


[02-May-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there was no car ahead doing it, then slap the fine on her, sure.


[02-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
" Two juvenile boys hid Judge Ginsberg's son's bicycle in a dumpster. The Ginsbergs reported the bicycle as stolen. After the bicycle was found, Judge Ginsberg accosted one of the boys, a 14- year-old, at a shopping center. Judge Ginsberg asked the boy why he had taken the bike, but the boy denied any involvement. Judge Ginsberg told the boy never to mess with his family again, grabbed the boy by the shirt, pulled him off his bicycle and pushed him onto a bench. When the boy threatened to call the police, Judge Ginsberg told him "Go ahead, I'm a judge and I'll have you charged with a felony." When the boy said the bicycle's value would not support a felony charge, Judge Ginsberg said "Then, I'll have you charged with a gross [misdemeanor] and you can go to juvey for the night. Would you like that punk?" Judge Ginsberg then slapped the boy in the face with his open hand. When later interviewed by the police about the incident, Judge Ginsberg admitted only tapping the boy's face and denied any other physical contact with him, specifically denying that he had grabbed him and pushed him onto the bench. Judge Ginsberg was charged with two counts of fifth-degree assault and pleaded guilty to one count."


[02-May-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah uhhh


[02-May-20 04:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> Dude you know if Biden were a law student today he never would have been allowed to be a lawyer right?
how the hell did any of those low standard peasants manage to get anything done


[02-May-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute abuse of office.


[02-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 white boys' club.


[02-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't to enact law according to standards.


[02-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to make sure fellow white boys don't get slapped.


[02-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
While guys you don't know, especially blakk ones, do.


[02-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the time of Biden, there wasn't such a thing as equality.


[02-May-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's barely able to adapt as the times change.


[02-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Attorney discipline seems to have been uncommon until around the 1970s.


[02-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus it was Delaware.


[02-May-20 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ultras_antifaa/status/1256177742283968513
Communism is when you bring big objects into a protest. The bigger those objects are, the more communist it is.

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[02-May-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus, Biden was 76th out of 85 in his class


[02-May-20 04:19 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so standards have rosen, but employers refuse to fire their low standard employees and get better ones?


[02-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the old rich white boys they hired in the 80s.


[02-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
To keep working for them, forever.


[02-May-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even today the people who get disciplined are disproportionately minority and solo


[02-May-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> forever
I'm so glad we don't have advanced life extension atm


[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is there's so many of them.


[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are so, so many Boomers.

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[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They need to die faster.


[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other problem is Millennials are dying at rates that are way too high.


[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life expectancy overall is going down now.


[02-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Millennials are dying young.


[02-May-20 04:23 AM] jlun2#8758
googling "millennials are dying young" gave
<https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-dying-drugs-alcohol-and-suicide-increase-2019-6>
do boomers not commit suicide or something


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers think suicide makes you weak.


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They also hav tons of antidepressants if they ever get suicidal.


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prescribed immediately.


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, people who think they are God's gift to the world won't get suicidal


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are hopped up on pills a lot at this point.


[02-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're getting old and they hav amazing health insurance that can pay for all the drugs to keep them feeling like nothing is wrong.


[02-May-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if basic living needs were a human right


[02-May-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How few people would be depressed/anxious


[02-May-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
wait.  does that mean zoomers are dying even more faster?


[02-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Zoomers are still really young.


[02-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they will be dying at similar rates soon.


[02-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This pandemic has eaten away at them right as they start leaving college.


[02-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're being saddled with the same debt crushing Millennials.


[02-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once they're out voting, they're just gonna vote with Millennials...


[02-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's what'll crush Boomers in the end.


[02-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials and Zoomers together could completely defund Social Security.


[02-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
All while turning the money to things like UBI.


[02-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would be the rather vengeful approach.


[02-May-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds rather optimistic, but :shrugpony:


[02-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's horrificaly pessimistic tho.


[02-May-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would just create a huge generational war and take away things from what we actually need to do.


[02-May-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
for me this and the next generation actually doing anything irl is hugely optimistic


[02-May-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why voting by mail and then online is such a big thing.


[02-May-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Online is too much.


[02-May-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be done anyways. Saves money.


[02-May-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
welcome to the most easily pwnt election system ever


[02-May-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
mail voting is where I think the balance should be


[02-May-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Online voting should be for water/mosquito/school control boards, not major elected positions


[02-May-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even then it should be like, "Send an email with your vote, we'll call to confirm"


[02-May-20 07:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is, like, one word away from being possible to interpret in a _very_ wrong way
https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1255309615883063297

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[02-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's New York.


[02-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their default mode of behavior is the police arresting non-whites without even needing to make up an excuse.


[02-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the Jews owned tons of real estate, this wouldn't be said.


[02-May-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's already pretty fucking bad


[02-May-20 08:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I remember reading that Hasidic Jews weren't following the lockdown


[02-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same ones as that are anti-vaxxers.


[02-May-20 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
though they probably argue they are following the lockdown cause much of New York in encircled by an eruv


[02-May-20 08:16 AM] jlun2#8758
It's rather odd they called out "Jewish communities" then "and others"


[02-May-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very much on purpose.


[02-May-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
he's not winning reelection when that comes up


[02-May-20 08:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-May-20 08:47 AM] byte[]#2610
The fuck is this nonsense


[02-May-20 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
the only good thing Twitter has done is pull back the curtain on the genius billionaire and prove they are just as dumb as anyone else


[02-May-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he's drunk.


[02-May-20 08:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Or on a hella acid trip


[02-May-20 09:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait


[02-May-20 09:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is this just him trying to gloss over the coronavirus backlash by *actually* playing the "I was only pretending to be stupid" card?


[02-May-20 09:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I really don't think he was pretending


[02-May-20 09:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think anybody thinks that


[02-May-20 09:08 AM] jlun2#8758

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[02-May-20 09:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to be fair, Elon going personally broke to save his endeavors is nothing new, either


[02-May-20 09:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or maybe this is just a 5head play to make sure that his gf gets nothing out of him if she breaks up. Who can say


[02-May-20 09:18 AM] Honahue#0656
kek, he's not going broke


[02-May-20 09:19 AM] Honahue#0656
he's a billionaire if he just retired now with 1% his wealth he'd be set for life


[02-May-20 09:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I agree, but despite the old chestnut about "billionaires are actually valued on the worth of the businesses they run" or even how many of his assets are actually liquid, Musk does in fact have a history of playing dangerous games with his companies and bailing them out with his own money - unlike certain other businessmen who have a history of bankrupting all of his investments to extract as much personal gain as possible


[02-May-20 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not exclusive to Musk, every billionarie is a lucky idiot that thinks they're a billionaire cause they were smart


[02-May-20 09:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he's just been really, really high all day.


[02-May-20 09:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Weed don't do that


[02-May-20 09:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not normal weed, anyway


[02-May-20 09:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Acid then I guess, and alcohol?


[02-May-20 09:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of stuff.


[02-May-20 09:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Alcohol would be my guess, prescription meds probably, but I have no experience with any such ones myself


[02-May-20 09:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But alcohol can seriously affect mood and decision making, waaaay more than weed


[02-May-20 09:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's just $5 for a litre of bottom shelf spirits


[02-May-20 09:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't he diagnosed bipolar?


[02-May-20 09:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, would not be surprised


[02-May-20 09:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though seems a lot of people get diagonsed with that these days... Starting to think it's one of those things rich people like to pay a doctor to get diagnosed by as an excuse


[02-May-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah I think it's just way more prevalent than people initially believed when psychologists stumbled onto it.


[02-May-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bipolar is a pretty basic breakdown of brain function.


[02-May-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, somebody in the 19th century would never expect it to be common.


[02-May-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That gets paid to write books on stuff etc.


[02-May-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a condition that kinda requires bad genes or bad environment, and heavily relates to use of street drugs.


[02-May-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the cocaine etc. that the rich would use


[02-May-20 09:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bipolar seems pretty extreme given the other modern diagnoses


[02-May-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
but like, heavy drinking mixed with LSD or such.


[02-May-20 04:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-May-20 04:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
65k deaths


[02-May-20 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And thus another reason Trump is no longer giving press briefings: he promised 60k tops because he was doing such a tremendous job, a job like no one's ever seen before


[02-May-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
he wasn't wrong on that last one.


[02-May-20 05:13 PM] jlun2#8758
Wait, "only" 50+ more deaths?


[02-May-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/20/climate/trump-light-bulb-rollback.html

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Trump Administration Blocks Energy Efficiency Rule for Light Bulbs
The energy secretary called the measure, which would have come into force on Jan. 1, “unnecessary overregulation.”
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[02-May-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
So people aren't buying incandescents anyways


[02-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
and this was **legally required to be implemented**


[02-May-20 08:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The man really hates light bulbs


[02-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has just completely ignored what Congress has said.


[02-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
For lightbulbs that will leave the market one way or the other.


[02-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they "look better"


[02-May-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Obviously there's a lobby behind such an inefficient product


[02-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
No


[02-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The lobby for this is dead.


[02-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is doing this because he doesn't like how new lightbulbs look.


[02-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is flatout ignoring the law Congress wrote for asthetics.


[02-May-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to understand the pettiness here.


[02-May-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Plus the whole thing about Trump getting rid of people who think oversight is good and replacing them until he finds someone who thinks oversight is bad


[02-May-20 08:57 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nycAujdp708&t=0s

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[02-May-20 08:59 PM] Honahue#0656
basically halogen and incandesents have a better spectrum closer to sunlight but LEDs are still way better and not that far off anyway


[02-May-20 09:00 PM] Honahue#0656
CFLs do have a terrible spectrum


[02-May-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
CFLs are weird. They're pretty obviously what happens when R&D is done in the wrong areas and suddenly people demand a stopgap solution.


[02-May-20 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just realized that Trump probably also hates the lighting in the white house because his skin doesn't look as bronzed as he's used to when he looks in a mirror, which may be a result of what the environment was like in his old place when he looks in a mirror


[02-May-20 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, one where every reflected light is warm because it's literally covered in gold


[02-May-20 09:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[02-May-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, he's directly blamed lightbulbs, especially fluorescents, for looking "orange" before.


[02-May-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Color constancy means that in a very orange environment, Trump's skin would look normal cause you *expect* that there's an orange filter over it all.


[02-May-20 09:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the wizard of oz is supposed to be satire, not an accurate depiction of reality


[02-May-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
screw-in replacement LEDs have a comparable efficiency to CFLs when factoring in all the power losses associated with the transformation process but the color output is much more hit or miss


[02-May-20 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it wouldn't take much work to find out exactly what brand of light bulbs the white house actually uses


[02-May-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
nb: LED replacement lamps are _much_ more efficient than any comparable technology when powered using a DC power standard like PoE


[02-May-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-May-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Musk's just losing every ounce of PR score he had before the last five days or so


[02-May-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
garbage take https://i.redd.it/rlpdvslo1bw41.jpg

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[02-May-20 09:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
But... Anne Frank is dead...


[02-May-20 09:21 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also >*white-passing*


[02-May-20 09:21 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can you don't


[02-May-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-May-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
ow the edge, jk


[02-May-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
person who proclaims to be maoist complains about representation of a genocide


[02-May-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
to be expected


[02-May-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/samcowie84/status/1256326858737475584

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Bolsonaro's youngest son banned from gaming forum for mocking pandemic & making jokes about gay & disabled people https://t.co/dnPAhSVoqE
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[02-May-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro's youngest son is a g*mer


[02-May-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/@carenawhite/why-you-need-to-stop-baking-bread-cf6b77bd7c56

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Why You Need to Stop Baking Bread
Your new hobby is creating food insecurity in your community.
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[02-May-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
another trash take


[02-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
> I was walking down the baking aisle to see if the organic flour was on sale. Organic flour is expensive and I am poor so I always try to buy it when it goes on sale.'


[02-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
there's your fucking problem


[02-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
> not a single one of them stopped to think as they grabbed the last of the flour and the yeast that they were robbing other people’s children of their daily bread


[02-May-20 10:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I am poor"
" I am one of THOSE people. You know the ones. You offer them a plate of food and they look at it suspiciously asking “Is that organic?” I want to know what is in my food so I make it myself. By the way, croutons? Made from my homemade bread. Breading for fried chicken? Made from my homemade bread. Stuffing for the Thanksgiving turkey? Made from my homemade bread."


[02-May-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-May-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Note it's not only a Karen


[02-May-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a _Caren_


[02-May-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like catching a shiny Pokemon


[02-May-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
at least she's getting roasted in the responses


[02-May-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
> I found the piece mean spirited and frankly selfish. It’s disappointing not to be able to find the items you need or want at the supermarket but to chastise other people for getting them? You are privileged to be able to go to a supermarket to attempt to get flour. Were you aware that food banks are bare at the moment? That’s because the amount of people that are now out of work are at levels not seen since the Depression and they are having trouble affording food. And because food banks can’t meet the high demand, people are going hungry. Those people are grateful for whatever they are able to get. But you’d rather whine about not being able to find organic flour. Seeing stuff like this only proves how hollow the statement that “we are in this together” is.


[02-May-20 10:20 PM] Honahue#0656
this is the same thing as Comic Book guy not liking newbies in his fandom "I was doing this first and you're not good enough to join"


[02-May-20 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656
love seen Caren getting mad about fake baker boys


[02-May-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
> organic wheat
how do people even know its organic


[02-May-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie wait, im confused. so does that mean pro-incandencent bulbs or anti?


[02-May-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495815-tara-reade-says-biden-complaint-was-limited-i-know-i-was-too-scared-to

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[02-May-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
better yet, what's the diffence between organic and not?


[02-May-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
cost


[02-May-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
organic is 3x more expensive


[02-May-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
cause it's not _synthetic_ flour is it


[02-May-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
for the virtually the same product


[02-May-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is pro-incandescents.


[02-May-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's what he grew up with.


[02-May-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
He sees CFLs and LEDs as weird.


[02-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
So he's willing to directly decide he writes the law and not congress to preserve the old stuff nobody is really buying.


[02-May-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I recently replaced a bulb with an incandescent because whatever guess I had some


[02-May-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I measured the temp of it after 10 minutes, it's over 250 F


[02-May-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No wonder it has a sixth of the life of an LED one


[02-May-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
the older, much more expensive LEDs were manufactured better (on larger process nodes) and virtually never failed


[02-May-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The "LEDs make me orange" argument is backwards


[02-May-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
nb: making LEDs is semiconductor manfacturing


[02-May-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything, LEDs make you look your normal color


[02-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you didn't know? Damn man, Easy Bake ovens are literally just a lightbulb encased.


[02-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, try grabbing an incandescent that's been off 5 minutes with three fingers.


[02-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Enjoy four or more callouses.


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Incandescent bulbs lasting until the 2000s is one of the most criminal things the US has done.


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I knew but damn


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lightbulb companies should've been fukking bombed to ashes.


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern Easy Bake ovens use heating elements


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Incandescents are so bad that they can be classified as heaters.


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think they've used lightbulbs since the 80s?


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] byte[]#2610
heating elements are lightbulbs with thicker filaments


[02-May-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
95% of their output is heat.


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
they are categorized as 100% efficient


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
The light eventually becomes heat too!


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
because all of the electrical energy that goes into them is output as heat


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"In 2011, the last version to use a 100-watt incandescent light bulb was replaced by a new version with a dedicated heating element, titled Easy-Bake Ultimate Oven. The replacement was due to the availability of better alternatives to the incandescent light bulbs that heated previous versions of the Easy-Bake Oven."


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
What's that, it's Summer?


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
TOO BAD, HAV HEAT


[02-May-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you close your shades to keep out the sun


[02-May-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
then turn on an incandescent bulb


[02-May-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
SOMEHOW it gets too hot, so you then turn on the AC


[02-May-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the life of Karens.


[02-May-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you complain on the internet that you'll need a different lightbulb and to vaccinate your child.


[02-May-20 11:10 PM] jlun2#8758
how many karens are there in US


[02-May-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Millions.


[02-May-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
coincidence book title

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[02-May-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
A river of blood.


[02-May-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/495580-a-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-ticket-to-replace-joe-biden

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[02-May-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't you not be VP if you can't be president?


[02-May-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Correct.


[02-May-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
" If Obama were selected as Clinton’s running mate, and she had to leave office for any reason, then Obama would succeed her. At least one constitutional expert is on record saying there is nothing to prevent such a scenario."


[02-May-20 11:28 PM] Cloudy#3004
I thought Obama could run again though


[02-May-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Really riding on "elected to the office"


[02-May-20 11:28 PM] Cloudy#3004
I thought you could only serve 2 *consecutive* turns
and you could run again if you waited one term


[02-May-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maximum of 10 years


[02-May-20 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[02-May-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you were VP and the president died a year into office, you could only run for re-election once


[02-May-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But if he died two years into office, you could run for president on your own twice.


[02-May-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
>arbeit macht frei


[02-May-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
so... are they literally defending the nazis...


[02-May-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
I see that the market shat itself again yesterday


[03-May-20 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh we still use incandescents primarily, although more energy-effecient options have become affordable in recent years


[03-May-20 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
they do not, in fact, heat up the apartament in any meaningful way.


[03-May-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
each one is a 50W heater


[03-May-20 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
or more.


[03-May-20 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
well no


[03-May-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
19 incandescents on is like having a toaster on.


[03-May-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just, continually on.


[03-May-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
quite a bit more than 50W can diffuse through the walls of most homes


[03-May-20 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
spread over a much larger volume though


[03-May-20 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would generally not want to leave a toaster on for the overall heat and electricity usage.


[03-May-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might not be noticed until you suddenly realize that your electricity and cooling bills got $20 more expensive every month.


[03-May-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(well, really just electricity, unless you've got a special AC setup)


[03-May-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is the US interior west gets way hotter than most areas in developed countries.


[03-May-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And also pretty cold in the winter


[03-May-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
insulation is a must, which then makes any heat sources more noticible.


[03-May-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's especially a must when so many homes are little more than sheetrock and matchsticks


[03-May-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, you're not gonna see much brikk architecture out west.


[03-May-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I live in a brick house


[03-May-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You liv in the east


[03-May-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeh, I keep forgetting your houses are literally made of paper


[03-May-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
unironically do.


[03-May-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun fact


[03-May-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know why you were taught to never put a fork/knife in a toaster?


[03-May-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Toasters used to have their heating elements directly connected to mains voltage with nothing in between


[03-May-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really is quite scary how thin most cables are in old electronics, especially things like toasters


[03-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
that's part of it but that's not the main reason why


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the big problem with old toasters is that the plug isn't polarized


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it can go in either way


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it could go in the way that would connect the toaster's casing to the hot wire


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
which would result in high energy shocks if you stuck a knife in it


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
or it could go in the way which connected the toaster's casing to neutral


[03-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
which does nothing


[03-May-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
new toasters have a polarized plug which fixes the issue


[03-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another interesting thing


[03-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a record player designed for children in the early 1950s


[03-May-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It had a warning sticker on the bottom that said "WARNING DO NOT LET YOUR CHILDREN INGEST THE PAINT CHIPS"


[03-May-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I know one US president who didn't heed that advice

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[03-May-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the _only_ one they made that was covered in lead paint


[03-May-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they marketed it to kids


[03-May-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have a feeling that somewhere someone sold lava lamps with thin glass casing and mercury-based lava, packaged togther with lawn darts and in-door metal frisbees


[03-May-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mercury based lava wouldn't do anything.


[03-May-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be too heavy for the convection that a lava lamp requires


[03-May-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some form of toy with mercury must've surely existed


[03-May-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mercury switches.


[03-May-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's shiny and slippery!


[03-May-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder if there were children's chemistry sets with mercury samples


[03-May-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
lead paint is far more dangerous than metallic mercury


[03-May-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
if not as a sample maybe as a science set with a mercury switch that's how old thermostats worked


[03-May-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People knew mercury was deadly from about the 18th century on


[03-May-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or whenever an injection was considered a cure for VD


[03-May-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
while we're on the subject of dangerous chemicals


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[03-May-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hold on, people injected themselves with mercury to cure some VDs? What megabrain came to the conclusion that'd help?


[03-May-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mercury poisoning makes you sweat


[03-May-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sweat takes out illness


[03-May-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
mercury been used as medicine for thousands of years


[03-May-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
duh


[03-May-20 01:10 AM] Honahue#0656
the word amalgam means alloy of mercury


[03-May-20 01:12 AM] Honahue#0656
god damn mabye mercury laxatives is why boomers are the way they are


[03-May-20 01:13 AM] Honahue#0656
In the early 20th century, mercury was administered to children yearly as a laxative and dewormer, and it was used in teething powders for infants.


[03-May-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's pre boomers


[03-May-20 01:14 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe but it doesn't say when they stopped


[03-May-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
mercury laxatives are quite safe though


[03-May-20 01:24 AM] illumnious#7938
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Murder hornets. Sure thing, 2020. Give us everything. Hypno-frogs. Fecal blizzards. Toilet tsunamis. A CATS sequel. We can take it.  https://t.co/DSDpgKhKzQ
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[03-May-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495826-us-endures-worst-one-day-death-toll-yet-as-states-reopen

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US endures worst one-day death toll yet as states reopen
The U.S. saw its largest one-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic to date on Thursday, as several states began to reopen parts of their economies.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_newyork_032220getty_surveillance.jpg


[03-May-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It keeps happening


[03-May-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, at one point, medicine was based largely on "fight fire with fire"


[03-May-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
George Washington died with three doctors present, putting things in his throat to make it swell up, to fight swelling.


[03-May-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got mad they didn't bleed him enuff so he put on more leeches himself too.


[03-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
James Garfield died because of doctor incompetence, not the bullet


[03-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American doctors didn't believe in germ theory/hand washing.


[03-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
European ones did


[03-May-20 01:57 AM] Honahue#0656
it wasn't fight it with fire it was the four humors, blood, mucus, green bile, and black bile and illness was having them out of wack, Washington was too Sanquine so they drained him


[03-May-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the leeches, but they *also* believed in fighting fire with fire


[03-May-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was tied into the humors thing. Basically, irritate more to drain the humors causing the irritation.


[03-May-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, fighting fire with fire is what the body itself does when it decides to overheat to kill infections, so I can see where they got the inspiration from =p


[03-May-20 02:07 AM] Honahue#0656
each of the humors came in warm or cold wet or dry so they were doing the opposite and if you were hot and wet they'd trying to cool and dry you


[03-May-20 02:07 AM] Honahue#0656
but they also had elements too earth air wind water

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[03-May-20 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
that's where blowing smoke up your ass comes from


[03-May-20 02:08 AM] Honahue#0656
tobacco smoke enema was a treatment


[03-May-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So _that's_ where "blow it up your ass" came from...


[03-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*blow it out


[03-May-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Get off Vent or I'll have you bent


[03-May-20 02:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
uwu pls bend me like the current stock market 🥺


[03-May-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
delete this

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[03-May-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You will read the following sentence in Barack Obama's or Trump's voice


[03-May-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"My fellow Americans: It appears I have found a bulgy wolgy in your pants."


[03-May-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking TSP means "blow smoke up your ass"


[03-May-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tobacco smoke enema was a resuscitation technique.


[03-May-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So today, we joke about someone who just drowned and giving them a kiss. Bakk in the day...you better get a pipe and get ready to put those lips somewhere else...


[03-May-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Overall, Victorian times' default response being "put poison in it" was not a good thing.


[03-May-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(tobacco smoke enemas fell out of favor not because of barely working, but because people started to very very slowly realize that tobacco was bad for the heart so using it to get it going again probably would do a lot of harm)


[03-May-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I really don't know where they get these numbers from

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[03-May-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, Clinton at any time can emerge from Biden's skin.


[03-May-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still think the Harris VP supporters are off base.


[03-May-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She wants to be AG, not VP.


[03-May-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe she wants to be both tho.


[03-May-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vice General, in charge of putting all minorities in jail.


[03-May-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-May-20 02:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[03-May-20 02:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
National Geographic of America posted this for Labors's Day


[03-May-20 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't see that


[03-May-20 02:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Labors Day is a special day for many nations in the world. Every labors worth to respect, every labors are making history. We selected many classic photos to share with our readers"


[03-May-20 02:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...oh. *Oh.*


[03-May-20 02:42 AM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[03-May-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm crying with laughter help


[03-May-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, the author of this article deleted their account https://medium.com/@carenawhite/why-you-need-to-stop-baking-bread-cf6b77bd7c56


[03-May-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://web.archive.org/web/20200502192533/https://medium.com/@carenawhite/why-you-need-to-stop-baking-bread-cf6b77bd7c56

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Why You Need to Stop Baking Bread
Your new hobby is creating food insecurity in your community.
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[03-May-20 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
Internet remembers :wheeze:


[03-May-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Linked earlier


[03-May-20 03:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>see responses (470)


[03-May-20 03:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn she got ratioed out of existence


[03-May-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
wait holy shit "User deactivated or deleted their account."


[03-May-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
haha


[03-May-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
> Karen was a popular name for baby girls in the 1950s and 1960s. Thus, many Karens are, in fact, of the boomer generation.


[03-May-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/haaniyah_/status/1256555679533486080

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i guess i’m a fake media critic (@haaniyah_)
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Landlords are a menace to society https://t.co/LsHrP0otSH
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[03-May-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a felony


[03-May-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-May-20 05:15 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1256783049762603008?s=20

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NEXT UP AFTER MURDER HORNETS

• Burglary wasps
• Child-abuse locusts
• Rape weevils
• Embezzlement beetles
• Larceny lice
• Tax-evasion termites
• Cybercrime crickets
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[03-May-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's amazing how quickly Tara Reade's caving the moment her bluff got called. I do not think she would've cancelled her Fox news interview over death threats if it had not been for the complaint she actually filed resurfacing. Like, anyone else in her position, truthful or not, would *capitalize* on death threats to rally support


[03-May-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
meanwhile, we're...what, 10 days away from the SCOTUS hearing the cases about Trump's tax returns?


[03-May-20 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Monday trading's gonna be interesting
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-02/buffett-says-berkshire-reversing-course-on-airlines-again


[03-May-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] yeah I know, I was linking it again because the author deleted their account


[03-May-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
> So the U.S. hit 60,000 deaths on 4/29. In the month of April we averaged 1,800 deaths a day for a total of 54,000 in April. Right now we have 67,000. Thats 2,300 averaged, a day for the last 3 days. Thats a 27% increase.


[03-May-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/bender-were-boned-were-fucked-up-gif-16162520

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[03-May-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
archive.org is a shit host tbh


[03-May-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is/ZXk7Q

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Your new hobby is creating food insecurity in your community. | Medium
archived 1 May 2020 23:51:58 UTC
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[03-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
a 9/11 every day


[03-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This will be in the history books as why Trump was a bad president


[03-May-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
yep, we're here


[03-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll gloss over stuff like lightbulb regulations, as petty and horrifically unconstitutional as he is on that


[03-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
just skip right to "and after Russia got him elected, he coerced Ukraine, then after not being impeached, here's the story how he bungled the coronavirus crisis"


[03-May-20 06:36 AM] Crow#5457
weird, trump's disapproval rating plummeted again, but with no corresponding increase in approval <https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/>


[03-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
People tuning out.


[03-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump left the news cycle to the soccer moms.


[03-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't know shit about lightbulbs.


[03-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll shoot bakk up once Trump says something dumb and the stories refocus on him.


[03-May-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tara-reades-allegations-put-establishment-democrats-in-a-bind-believe-women-or-back-the-nominee/

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Tara Reade’s Allegations Put Establishment Democrats In A Bind: Bel...
Editor’s note: This article contains a detailed description of the sexual assault Tara Reade says Joe Biden committed against her. Tara Reade says that in 1993,…
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[03-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
:bigbrain:


[03-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Tara Reade’s Allegations Put Establishment Democrats In A Bind: Believe Women Or Back The Nominee" "Editor’s note: This article contains a detailed description of the sexual assault Tara Reade says Joe Biden committed against her."


[03-May-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't the same as Kavanaugh.


[03-May-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still, that title and editor's note.


[03-May-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're putting a trigger warning under the pretense of it being graphic.


[03-May-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reade can't keep her story straight.


[03-May-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ford did.


[03-May-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the absolute shittiest angle Trump can take to attack Biden btw


[03-May-20 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should a voter care about this when someone who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy won?


[03-May-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
"...Biden pressed her up against a wall in the United States Senate, kissed her neck and hair, slid his hand under her blouse, then used his knee to spread her legs and penetrated her with his fingers. "
That's what the editor's note is about.


[03-May-20 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Inconsistent with what she said before.


[03-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[03-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/01/opinions/biden-tara-reade-allegations-2008-vetting-axelrod/index.html

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Obama team fully vetted Biden in 2008 and found no hint of former a...
Had any credible issue been raised, you can be sure Biden would not have been the nominee. Obama would not have tolerated it, even if he and Biden were close then, which they were not, writes David Axelrod.
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[03-May-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Notice how the Hunter Biden allegations are silent, too


[03-May-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, Biden has the advantage of any bad thing he has allegedly done being things that a lot of Americans would go "Yeah, would have done it too" to


[03-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure many Republicans see that sentence and go "DAMN? In the SENATE? Nice, bro."


[03-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially that knee move.


[03-May-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it's virtue signaling to pretend this wasn't accepted.


[03-May-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just don't see Reade as trustworthy either.


[03-May-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pregnant Mare Rescue really shows that.


[03-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah might just be she regrets whatever happened with Biden.


[03-May-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Definitely doesn't hav what Ford had.


[03-May-20 07:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1256600118461181955

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The fact Bill Clinton may have bombed a country so Hillary Clinton would resume missionary sex with the lights off has ruined my entire week.
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[03-May-20 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hmm, not sure that's the story I'm getting from that chain of events


[03-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/02/us/face-masks-stillwater-oklahoma-trnd/index.html

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After employees receive threats, one city is forced to nix rule req...
An emergency proclamation in Stillwater, Oklahoma, requiring face masks in stores and restaurants was dropped after store and restaurant owners received threats.
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[03-May-20 07:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oklahoma was one of the states with an anti-lockdown protest that didn't quite fit the astroturf campaign mold, iirc. Rather, in that state, it was sponsored by some local nutjobs who'd been nutjobbing it up for a while


[03-May-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder to bully people into wearing face coverings.


[03-May-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shame them for being awful people.


[03-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of frustrating that my mom is entirely down with calling out people on breaking social distancing or lokkdown, but not on calling them out for not wearing masks.


[03-May-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything is better than nothing, even if masks can be hard to find


[03-May-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no excuse.


[03-May-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tie a shirt around your face.


[03-May-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/02/business/coronavirus-food-waste-destroyed.html

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‘We Had to Do Something’: Trying to Prevent Massive Food Waste
Some producers acknowledge the efforts are “just a drop in the bucket” of what farmers can’t sell and are destroying instead.
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[03-May-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is bad for basic food production.


[03-May-20 11:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We've known this since the 60s


[03-May-20 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, because restaurants can't operate selling things at ridiculous prices, producers of food are unable to sell the ridiculous quantities they produce.


[03-May-20 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yet at the same time, many people are desperately heading to food banks.


[03-May-20 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are in a massive surplus and shortage at the same time.


[03-May-20 11:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We can't divert the surplus to the shortage, that would devalue it


[03-May-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, America is on the verge of going full Irish Potato Famine.


[03-May-20 11:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So we must destroy the stock, ensure the value is kept level once standard demand returns


[03-May-20 12:50 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, couldn't the government buy out all the surplus food and then distribute it to food banks?


[03-May-20 12:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
THAT'S COMMUNISM


[03-May-20 12:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus the government has made it a point to underfund itself so literally doesn't have the infrastructure to do that


[03-May-20 02:37 PM] Opponent#3498
this attitude is what's suprising.


[03-May-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
we have this exact situation.


[03-May-20 02:39 PM] Opponent#3498
and the society at large decided that, instead of arguing with the individual store owners, they'll proceed as usual, ignore the gist of what government is demanding and do the bare minimum required. I.e. you typically see people _having_ masks but not actually wearing them on their faces (it doesn't help, that apparently only a few people, including me, managed to source masks that are actually breathable and well-made), unless they're entering a store or smth.


[03-May-20 02:40 PM] Opponent#3498
people vs people, and people vs government, in short.


[03-May-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
(my stuff is okay, so I wear the mask always if I'm going out for shopping, less fuss than taking it on and off. Most people either have the black solid thing that's good for images, sharpies etc, or handmade ones made of gause, neither of which are comfortable or breathable)


[03-May-20 04:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Pope says vaccine must be shared worldwide https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-05-03-coronavirus-news-n1198861/ncrd1198941

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Pope says vaccine must be shared worldwide
Here are the latest updates on the global pandemic.
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[03-May-20 07:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/495826-us-endures-worst-one-day-death-toll-yet-as-states-reopen

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US endures worst one-day death toll yet as states reopen
The U.S. saw its largest one-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic to date on Thursday as several states began to reopen parts of their economies.
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[03-May-20 07:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE

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Price is right losing horn
This is the sound that comes up in my head when I think about a fail.  Like the Mets losing a ballgame to the Phillies 10-0.
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[03-May-20 07:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 im legit curious is it all just new york (somehow) or other areas; for all I know it's the New York Virus, not "American Virus"


[03-May-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-May-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
it's only special snowflakes if liberal millenials do it. if old boomers do it it's normal and socially encouraged


[03-May-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://old.reddit.com/r/iamveryculinary/comments/gbzk5q/why_you_need_to_stop_baking_bread/

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[03-May-20 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-May-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-May-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-May-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
that's literally him though.


[03-May-20 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
although in-built Pokemon Go sounds sick as hell xD


[03-May-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is he fapping to Minecraft as a concept?


[03-May-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what does it mean that he thinks it has amazing legs?


[03-May-20 10:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe he watched some Minecraft SFM


[03-May-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't there an Easter egg game in Teslas that got taken out for safety


[03-May-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like Yars Revenge or something


[03-May-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie People like Notch and Musk are two peas in a pod


[03-May-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk just hides his depression with drugs and overlapping mental illnesses.


[03-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe he saw this https://i.redd.it/1guu1hqgjvo41.png

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[03-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fanart of the new mob coming in 1.16


[03-May-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
what if elon likes feet


[03-May-20 10:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
1.16: "striders allow you to safely cross lava"
Me with my 68 Fire Resistance potions:


[03-May-20 10:57 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[03-May-20 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and ya don't even need that if you can build a basalt bridge flying machine


[03-May-20 10:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also they're apparently fixing fishing so that you can only effectively find treasures when fishing in the ocean, and not in a local river by your main shelter like everyone does


[03-May-20 10:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the political debate of the century (also someone's already built a 1.16 afk fish farm)


[03-May-20 11:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
(it actually just checks the 5x5x5 area around the bobber for only water or air blocks, so that can be easily circumvented)


[03-May-20 11:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hey remember when they fucked up boat controls


[03-May-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, Maru, if you get off the Strider while near lava...

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[03-May-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-May-20 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sounds like a fighting game combo


[04-May-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People getting mad about the Friends of Mineral Town remake removing "Best Friends" and just calling it marriage. Keep in mind that this is a "Best Friends" ceremony

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[04-May-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You live in the same house as them, sleep in the same bed, can adopt a child, and grow old together.


[04-May-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow that would probably be my position if I was living in US


[04-May-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking so basicly Lyra/Bon-Bon type of best friends.


[04-May-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yea


[04-May-20 12:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[04-May-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495843-trump-rips-george-w-bush-after-he-issues-call-to-unite-amid

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[04-May-20 12:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know I was kinda ragging on the post earlier about "I love guns 'n stuff but Trump is divide, divide, divide" but I would have no problem whatsoever seeing more posts like that


[04-May-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-May-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
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[04-May-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[04-May-20 01:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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[04-May-20 02:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't load the video... what's it?


[04-May-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Turning the US flag into the CCP flag step by step; it's a shitpost


[04-May-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"They always said Lincoln, nobody got treated worse than Lincoln. I believe I am treated worse."- Trump

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[04-May-20 03:19 AM] jlun2#8758
what was the context


[04-May-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/495898-trump-says-hes-been-treated-worse-than-lincoln-by-the-press

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[04-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Trump defended his frequent clashes with the press during a Fox News virtual town hall after a woman thanked him for his work and then asked why he avoids directly answering reporters' questions during coronavirus press briefings and instead opts to "speak of past successes and generally ramble."'


[04-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They asked him why he bullshits.


[04-May-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he completely fell apart.


[04-May-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should be more liable


[04-May-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they should have fewer first amendment rights


[04-May-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I continue to think you are approaching that entirely wrong.


[04-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're talking about individual-based masking of law instead of authority usage.


[04-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you present is both unworkable and against the entire way the legal system does and has to work.


[04-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, imagine people hav *hats*, Its.


[04-May-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I said fewer, not none.


[04-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit.


[04-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when you put on a hat, you are gaining its authority, as a source of information and direction on its topic.


[04-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you take off the hat, you are bakk to normal.


[04-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some people hav multiple hats, some people hav none.


[04-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who has gotten a degree has a hat from it.


[04-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And someone who holds an office has a hat from that.


[04-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
(but only while in the office, there's a separate hat for "former" of that office)


[04-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ignoring that these hats don't actually exist of course, pretend for a moment that we implement your ideas of the rules.


[04-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are saying that the moment a person gains the president hat **they are never allowed to take it off**


[04-May-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More like the president hat is a thorny crown


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the hat comes with it liability and such, and when that person has a private chat, they're still speaking as the president and everyone has to listen and they can be held responsible as the president yadda yadda yadda


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's stupid.


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way things actually hav to work is that you only gain the liabilities when you also are using the authority.


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly the ONI way :D


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I like it.


[04-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, any caveats with the hat must come with when it is on.


[04-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the president is making the State of the Union address, sure, gag him.


[04-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's doing a function of his office.


[04-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
When he's out golfing? No hat, no gag.


[04-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, he could put that hat on and go "Hey Xi, how about we figure out a deal right here!"


[04-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then that's a choice he's made and you can show in court he did that.


[04-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly


[04-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
someone being a manager does not mean they can't hav anti-union views


[04-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
nor that they cannot *express* those views


[04-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they hav to express them **outside the work place and not as part of that workplace's authority**


[04-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
they can rant and rave in the bar about how unions are screwing the country and they'd tear them all down if they could


[04-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they can't go on the company's twitter account and say "unions are gonna be purged", or start harassing unionizers.


[04-May-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can also say "I don't like unions" at the workplace


[04-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the point.


[04-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone has to be able to fukking vent well outside the workplace where they're wielding no authority.


[04-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you take that way, you start stepping all over people's private lives and the law becomes disrespected.


[04-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A disrespected law is next to useless, people won't enforce it, and then union-busting just goes crazy.


[04-May-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm, definitely rethinking this


[04-May-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly a *lot* of the reason anti-union sentiment grew so easily is that people got complacent while at the same time, unions siphoned money from non-union workers for union events.


[04-May-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also doing too many political things that had nothing to do with workers rights


[04-May-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a union is extracting dues from every employee, then it's basically acting to strip individual freedom from the worker, and that shifts the balance to the employer.


[04-May-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider Employee Bob who wants more pay


[04-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
the union thinks more pay will endanger discussions for better benefits


[04-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
union steals part of Bob's wage to tell the employer that Bob is crazy and it's okay to not listen to him.


[04-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bob has no recourse except to join the union and then get drowned in it.


[04-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congrats, America


[04-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
you've made unions anti-worker.


[04-May-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus workers anti-union.


[04-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unions have little to no power unless they are mandatory


[04-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the dirty secret.


[04-May-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the entire structure is wrong.


[04-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The focus has to be on restricting power of the employer over workers.


[04-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to even flip it so workers hav power over employers.


[04-May-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean the focus is all about keeping people working


[04-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unions *can* do that, but they create a problem because they can easily become ways to discard worker complaints.


[04-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unions shouldn't be mandatory.


[04-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead, workers should be able to create unions pretty much on a whim.


[04-May-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Structure is bad and power requires it being mandatory sadly


[04-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-union workers shouldn't be disadvantaged. They should instead *want* to be part of a union because the union works better for them with them in it.


[04-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, power requires the employer be absolutely handcuffed to shit.


[04-May-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So a strong government that enforces the agreements


[04-May-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-May-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Employers should be fearful of having to lay workers off, for the gov't will come in and completely destroy all their assets overnite.


[04-May-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Labor Board doesn't have that power


[04-May-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Labor board should be able to seize a company's assets at a moment's notice.


[04-May-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically toothless.


[04-May-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, I finally now realize my restrictions on what a president can and cannot do is too much


[04-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately the US needs to take the ideas in law on how bosses talk about unions and apply it to how elected officials talk about what they're gonna do.


[04-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be outright illegal for the president to make an address on live TV where he threatens governors with things.


[04-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, there should be a panel of judges watching, and the moment they hear a threat, they *cut the feed* and sanction him.


[04-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, current setup has all the sanctioning thru the House, so to be at all constitutional with our current BS amendments, it'd need to be the House doing that.


[04-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
House just cuts the feed and calls impeachment proceedings immediately, etc.


[04-May-20 04:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZHL0RqOhio

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[04-May-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What sanction can you give a president? @Nebbie


[04-May-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A strongly written court order that says "You were bad?"


[04-May-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prevent future addresses for a while, for a start.


[04-May-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So they appeal the injunction


[04-May-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe SCOTUS should be able to remove a president from office on their own.


[04-May-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A better starting place for this kind of thing would be the WHPS, I think


[04-May-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that role has been little better than a propaganda machine or a disposable mouthpiece for the president since well before Trump's administration, but Trump's lineup for the job has been exemplary in that


[04-May-20 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My thinking is, if that job came with the kind of consequences for speaking in an official capacity that speaking under oath did, then we'd have a lot less garbage being spouted. Sure, there's a time and a place to withold information for good reasons, but knowingly lying to the American public on behalf of the president should be considered perjury. WHPS would still be a meat shield, ofc, but from there you could move on to saying that any public statement the President issues to the press himself should be treated as if he is acting in the same capacity


[04-May-20 04:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Feel free to put all kinds of double standards and wiggle room for the president on top of that, of course, but even a paper-thin rule like that would rock the boat, I would think


[04-May-20 05:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdAbHUvp38

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[04-May-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if people like


[04-May-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
choose to not open businesses/people don't go out


[04-May-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also don't be fooled, within two weeks the Trump administration will probably mock people for wearing masks or being scared to go out


[04-May-20 05:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it'll be less time


[04-May-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If businesses don't open, they don't get any financial support


[04-May-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, the minimum number of people going out and about to make matters exponentially worse is a lot lower than you'd think


[04-May-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And their competition kills them


[04-May-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump wants numbers big in time for November, if poor people have to die for that to happen so be it, won't be properly tallied until he's already won is his bet


[04-May-20 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as I can tell, the percentage of people who are going to just "kinda" follow social distancing in their rush to cure their cabin fever is going to be in the double digits


[04-May-20 05:10 AM] ononim#8141
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/495765-robin-hood-cardinal-gave-funds-to-transgender-sex-workers-in-need-aid-during

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'Robin Hood' cardinal gave funds to transgender sex workers in need...
A cardinal who runs the Vatican's charities sent aid to a group of transgender sex workers who were left stranded near Rome during the coronavirus pandemic lockdown in Italy, Reuters reports.
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[04-May-20 05:11 AM] ononim#8141
Some of you are alright, don't go to Vatikan tommorrow


[04-May-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, soon as restaurants and bars and cafes open it's gonna be slaughter


[04-May-20 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's gonna be a rush every single place there's a reopening, no matter how restricted the reopening is ostensibly set to be


[04-May-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People organizing parties and get togethers and trips and whatever else to make up for all the "time lost"


[04-May-20 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/CiaranWest/status/1256711891889664000?s=20

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[04-May-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The UK would be better run directly from Brussels.


[04-May-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[04-May-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even as a member of the EU, a directly managed territory.


[04-May-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 from the headline alone:
let me guess. they think crime and benefit fraud is 100% (ie. dont trust your neighbours or even your family; they may be criminals!), everyone who needs benefits are clearly faking it, and immigration is that thing done only by non whites right


[04-May-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
You're not far from the mark


[04-May-20 05:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-8697821.html

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British public wrong about nearly everything, survey shows
Research shows public opinion often deviates from facts on key social issues including crime, benefit fraud and immigration


[04-May-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't you hear? 90% of all crime is committed by immigrants!


[04-May-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Like, if you didn't look up the article/study and copy its text, you were _scarily_ accurate with that summary...


[04-May-20 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The moment you arrive on a different country is the moment your "i wanna rape every woman in my sight and pickpocket everyone else" senses activate


[04-May-20 05:18 AM] Honahue#0656
my store is already doing finacial chicanery to make sure we don't get money but they do


[04-May-20 05:19 AM] jlun2#8758
i didnt touch the article nor tweet link, just guessed based on what i see usually posted on here


[04-May-20 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's what i was arrested for back in Paraguay


[04-May-20 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:dab:


[04-May-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
more like para **GAY** :xd: 🏳️‍🌈 :xd: :xd:


[04-May-20 05:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[04-May-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also p.cool how I'm "a foreigner" in Germany, but not "an immigrant"


[04-May-20 07:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-May-20 10:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-May-20 10:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure if spooky or just an example of how depressingly predictable things have become


[04-May-20 12:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/495899-hundreds-of-florida-boaters-throw-boat-parade-in-support-of

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Hundreds of Florida boaters throw boat parade in support of Trump
Scores of boaters in Florida participated in a boat parade in support of President Trump that was bound for Mar-a-Lago over the weekend.
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[04-May-20 12:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What a great way to waste fuel


[04-May-20 12:52 PM] Opponent#3498
support the struggling oil industry 😂


[04-May-20 01:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump raises estimate of U.S. dead, warns toll could reach 100,000 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-warns-coronavirus-death-toll-could-reach-100-000-n1199161

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Trump boosts coronavirus death toll estimate
"That's a horrible thing. We shouldn't lose one person out of this," the president said.
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[04-May-20 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, maybe if you had acted faster and not insisted it was a hoax until it was too late, maybe you could have prevented it from getting that high


[04-May-20 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[04-May-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
heavy losses are the nessesary cleansing. They're therapeutic for the troops' morale!


[04-May-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
or so the WW1 italian generals would tell you.


[04-May-20 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BugznGj6bU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BugznGj6bU
Mussolini invades greece
Mama mia, that's a spicy meatball.

like for free iphone 5
pls gib sub
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[04-May-20 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rl4c-jr7g0

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Coronavirus VI: Testing: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
As experts encourage widespread coronavirus testing, John Oliver discusses exactly how much testing the US has done, the difference between diagnostic and antibody tests, and why we need to do more. 

Connect with Last Week Tonight online...

Subscribe to the Last Week Tonigh...
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[04-May-20 03:38 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[04-May-20 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're exactly the same people that make fun of "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" not being a democracy


[04-May-20 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
100% overlap


[04-May-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/05/03/donald-trump-and-the-fed-could-be-about-to-destroy-the-us-banking-system/

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As the economic reality of a post-coronavirus world sinks in, president Trump and the Fed are edging closer to negative interest rates—something billionaire investor Warren Buffett has warned could have "extreme consequences"...
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[04-May-20 05:17 PM] ononim#8141
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[04-May-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[04-May-20 06:24 PM] illumnious#7938
What could possibly go wrong? 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1199416#click=https://t.co/Y3xZRe4Maf

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Carnival Cruise Line will restart some North American cruises by Au...
Eight ships will depart from Miami, Port Canaveral and Galveston, Carnival said in a statement.
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[04-May-20 06:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Everything’s going to be *FIIIIIIIIIIINE*


[04-May-20 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[04-May-20 06:25 PM] illumnious#7938
@Crow good question


[04-May-20 06:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Then follow up to 4panel


[04-May-20 06:52 PM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Aw yeah, return to old American monetary chaos time. Private bank notes here we go!


[04-May-20 06:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Crow The honest response to this would be that it removes notes from circulation and keeps in check inflation by taking cash out of circulation.


[04-May-20 07:03 PM] ononim#8141
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[04-May-20 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cube croissant?


[04-May-20 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed a very divisive political issue


[04-May-20 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I myself am pro-cube croissant. Croissants should be free to be whatever they please.


[04-May-20 07:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Bread Blocks for compact storage of bread


[04-May-20 07:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The conquest of bread, but in minecraft


[04-May-20 07:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Marukomuru they should've called it that to appeal to the zoomers


[04-May-20 07:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm still surprised US is still fine printing out 2T dollars


[04-May-20 07:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder, can it end up as Zimbabwe? Where everyone is millionaire, but cannot afford anything.


[04-May-20 07:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I doubt that.


[04-May-20 08:34 PM] ononim#8141

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[04-May-20 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
```I wonder, can it end up as Zimbabwe?```
the rich of US (as well as stock market and other places focused on imaginary money) act as a sink for excess currency I think


[04-May-20 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
so unless they try spending it, no, not really.


[04-May-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
> try spending it
do rich people even spend much money at all tbh


[04-May-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought they just hoard their digital numbers like dragons


[04-May-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
only a tiny percentage of their wealth I think. That's why the system works.


[04-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
do they have any life long goals outside "get number up"


[04-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
like idk make a private space program


[04-May-20 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
probably not, everything else can be aquired if you put your mind to it :D


[04-May-20 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, well, yeah, no, as far as technological progress goes, not really it seems.


[04-May-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495875-warren-is-democratic-voters-top-choice-for-biden-vp-poll

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Warren is Democratic voters' top choice for Biden VP: poll
Sen.
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[04-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-dollar-store-security-officer-reportedly-killed-not-letting-customer-enter-without-face-1501816

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The officer's loved ones described him as "a hard working, father and husband who lost his life while doing his job securing the place of business and asking all customers to wear a mask for our own safety as well as others."
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[04-May-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren would be a mistake.


[04-May-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
how so? too left?


[04-May-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't draw attention away from the presidential nominee


[04-May-20 09:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's probably the worst possible reason to discredit Warren as a VP pick


[04-May-20 09:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially when a not-insignificant number of people are looking at Biden's VP pick as the 47th president


[04-May-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't want to get Palin'd


[04-May-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Think about why Trump didn't pick a failed GOP nominee


[04-May-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Think about why Obama chose someone who wasn't even close in 2008


[04-May-20 09:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden will not get palin'd by Warren. Biden would get palin'd by picking Harris


[04-May-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
I still have no idea what does Pence do outside smile at camera every now and then


[04-May-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't forget the disparity between the frontrunners (biden, warren, and sanders) and everyone else in the race when Warren was still in it


[04-May-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 being clever. This is how you survive Trump's ousting.


[04-May-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
he's staying out of spotlight as much as possible. This is what he _should_ be doing.


[04-May-20 09:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Besides, Palin killed McCain's campaign by being utterly and completely witless


[04-May-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Warren may have plenty of faults but that ain't one of them


[04-May-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly, if anything, Biden's campaign would go up in total IQ points picking her


[04-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren wouldn't be as big of a mistake as Harris.


[04-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren would at least get some of the progressive wing out


[04-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris wouldn't


[04-May-20 09:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...


[04-May-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you have some counterproductive priorities


[04-May-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless you mean "out to the polls"


[04-May-20 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[04-May-20 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
VPs usually don't mean shit but considering dems need a unity ticket now well


[04-May-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, Warren will not cause him to *lose* support


[04-May-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if the idea of two moderates on the democratic ticket are what you're worried about, I guarantee you that any former "bernie bros" that would jump ship to stick with Trump are not progressives


[04-May-20 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To them, the democratic ticket could literally be a slice of leftover cauliflower crust pizza and a piping hot glass of mayonnaise, and they'd support it given how aggressively *regressive* the Trump administration is


[04-May-20 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://apnews.com/79346b4e428676424c0e5669c80fc310

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Ex-Green Beret led failed attempt to oust Venezuela's Maduro
MIAMI (AP) — The plan was simple, but perilous. Some 300 heavily armed volunteers would sneak into Venezuela from the northern tip of South America. Along the way, they would raid military bases...
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[04-May-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking I think actually Warren would be the best choice *for* this reason.


[04-May-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden wants attention drawn away now.


[04-May-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He can say he isn't bad to women because his VP is one, now listen to her about how sexual assault is a problem.


[04-May-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do not pay attention to the man groping her behind the curtain.


[04-May-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's just trying to find his keys to open the fridge.


[04-May-20 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/europe/russia-medical-workers-windows-intl/index.html

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Three Russian doctors fall from hospital windows, raising questions...
Three frontline health care workers have mysteriously fallen out of hospital windows in Russia over the past two weeks, heightening public attention to the working conditions for doctors and medical professionals amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[04-May-20 10:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Three doctors that criticized how Putin was managing the crisis "fell" out of windows

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[04-May-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
No really, he is, Biden, they're *over there*. No Biden, not in that kid's skirt.


[04-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
BIDEN GET YOUR LIPS OFF THAT BABY

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[04-May-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/internal-fema-document-projects-spike-in-daily-coronavirus-death-toll-but-data-questioned

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Internal FEMA document projects spike in daily coronavirus death to...
An internal document featuring charts produced by FEMA projects far more new coronavirus cases than the White House has forecast and nearly double the current daily death toll by the end of the month — but sources have raised questions about the reliability of the data.
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[04-May-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Those projections claim that by the end of May, there will be 200,000 new coronavirus cases and 3,000 deaths every day. This is a significant jump from current numbers of roughly 25,000 new cases and 1,750 deaths each day.
> 
> One model from the University of Washington, which has driven much of the White House task force's initial reporting, forecasts the daily number of deaths falling below 100 by May 25.


[04-May-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we are on the red line.

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[04-May-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
germany's in the blue box, though, from what I've heard


[04-May-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
lose lose situation


[04-May-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
blue box means next time it wont be treated seriously


[04-May-20 10:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers must die to understand.


[04-May-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno what the "public opinion" is given it's all in German; coworkers are happy with how it's been managed so far


[04-May-20 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
public opinion = people who willingly respond to right-wing polls


[04-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/global-anti-china-sentiment-highest-since-1989-tiananmen-square-crackdown-says-internal-chinese-1501815

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Global anti-China sentiment "highest since 1989 Tiananmen Square cr...
The report warned that China should prepare for an armed confrontation with the U.S. in a worst-case scenario.
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[04-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/03/senate-democrats-alabama-doug-jones-229073

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Democrats leave Doug Jones hanging as Senate map takes shape
Democrats haven't yet fully committed to defending the vulnerable Alabama incumbent.
https://static.politico.com/92/f5/ded568684a75b4b77b30e04986a4/200501-doug-jones-ap-773.jpg


[04-May-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's so many easy pick ups other than that


[04-May-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also is that an edited picture


[04-May-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie related to covid, or covid made it worse?


[04-May-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
oh, its saying covid mostly. huh
i guess ppl were all fine before this


[04-May-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nypost.com/2020/05/02/tara-reid-wants-everyone-to-stop-confusing-her-with-tara-reade/

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Actress Tara Reid wants everyone to stop confusing her with Tara Reade
“Sharknado” star thinks people are “crazy” for mixing her up with the woman who has accused Joe Biden of sexual assault: “The wrong person to bring into politics is me…
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[04-May-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“Serious question: Did Joe Biden allegedly sexually assault Tara Reid before or after Sharknado?”


[04-May-20 10:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking can't blame her; when people started posting "Tara" I kept thinking Twilight's VA until I got corrected


[04-May-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait a fucking second, did Trump seriously just do an interview with FOX in front of the Lincoln Memorial and say he's been treated worse than Lincoln was?


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Midknight#9798
maybe the Grand Prophet Trump has had another revelation of the future and the distress has confused him as to what has happened so far


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He did


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He fucking did, oh my good lord


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes he did


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lincoln deserved criticism for suspending habeas corpus


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's had a craaaaazy weekend


[04-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Trump turned in his seat to face the likeness of one of America's most revered leaders.
> 
> "They always said no one was treated worse than [Abraham] Lincoln," Trump said in a Fox News town hall held at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. "I believe I am treated worse."


[04-May-20 11:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
WELL THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO BE SURE OF THAT


[04-May-20 11:10 PM] Midknight#9798
He believed that in 2016 before the election results came in, too. "IT'S RIGGED AGAINST ME! WAAAAH!"


[04-May-20 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, it should be noted that Trump has actually admitted he was briefed on covid-19 before calling it a hoax


[04-May-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/495942-michelle-obamas-presence-on-the-ticket-would-be-big-boost-for-biden

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Michelle Obama's presence on the ticket would be big boost for Biden
Michelle Obama has many reasons to avoid partisan political conflict, but she also has plenty of reasons to engage fully in the 2020 campaign against Donald Trump.
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[04-May-20 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Michelle Obama Prism


[04-May-20 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[05-May-20 12:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One Weird Experiment Republicans Don't Want You to Know About! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment

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The Kansas experiment refers to Kansas Senate Bill Substitute HB 2117, a bill signed into law in May 2012 by Sam Brownback, Governor of the state of Kansas. It was one of the largest income tax cuts in the state's history, which Brownback believed would be a "shot of adrenalin...


[05-May-20 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(worth remembering in light of...)


[05-May-20 12:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/05/04/trump-says-he-wont-approve-covid-19-package-without-tax-cut-offers-zero-relief-30

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Trump Says He Won't Approve Covid-19 Package Without Tax Cut That O...
"'Payroll tax cut' is code for 'gut Social Security and Medicare's dedicated funding, then demand benefit cuts.' Democrats must stand strong and continue blocking Trump's terrible idea."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/trump_payroll_coronavirus_0.jpg


[05-May-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri reopened today other than the St. Louis metro


[05-May-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only the exact kind of people you would expect went out though


[05-May-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I watched an interview of a guy running a boutique cooking oil store being super excited


[05-May-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
he should be, his clientelle would be out and about.


[05-May-20 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
and desperate to make up for lost time by overspending


[05-May-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> overspending
so a bunch of whiny white folks who then complain they're poor on social media after overspending?


[05-May-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah this is the group that goes "Finally I can get my hair done"


[05-May-20 01:17 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[05-May-20 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think shaun king realizes just what a false equivalency he's making


[05-May-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Indeed, even if Biden was one-for-one on a list of crimes that Trump has been accused of, *up to and including treason,* Trump would still outweigh him by dozens (if not hundreds, in some cases) of charges. *per crime.*


[05-May-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/WarrenIsDead/status/1257338448245129223

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in retrospect, Twilight gets high marks for telling a story which no one uses to obsessively articulate contemporary political commitments
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[05-May-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it was just the sexual assault stuff, Trump's accusations are more credible, especially with him being pals with Epstein.


[05-May-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think sexual assault allegations should be the primary reason of who you vote for.


[05-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with Trump in office is that he regularly stiffs over the American people in favor of him and his friends, not that he might be using those friends to rape teenage girls on the side.


[05-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
(he's unlikely to be doing much raping at all while in office, it'd be too easily noticed)


[05-May-20 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but kissing a newlywed bride full on the lips in front of the groom is fine


[05-May-20 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was just golfing there. He loves crashing weddings at his resorts.


[05-May-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
first night privilege


[05-May-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's definitely weird seeing all of the Trump hotels have their rankings artificially increased by his fans


[05-May-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean that's just how yelp works to begin with


[05-May-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas is rated #7 on TripAdvisor


[05-May-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again, the number one hotel by ratings there is a Residence Inn.


[05-May-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You act like capitalism isn't by a quarter a game where you win just by bribing people to boost your product so there's no fair competition.


[05-May-20 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except they do it for free


[05-May-20 01:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/KellyBonner/status/1257323982400831491?s=20

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[05-May-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
UK is boned


[05-May-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll overtake Italy before the end of the week


[05-May-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And still not peaked


[05-May-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, nobody around Trump does things for free.


[05-May-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The currency traded is just not always physical money.


[05-May-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about stuff like "yeah, you won't investigate us, and we'll uh, put in a good word for you to get you a loan"


[05-May-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-May-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
right wing memes are weird


[05-May-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
sharia law AND godless


[05-May-20 02:38 AM] Midknight#9798
only two of the things on that list are bad (one other doesn't actually exist and is just a made up scare phrase for the ignorant)


[05-May-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-coronavirus-rate-1501250

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Sweden's coronavirus death rate is nearly double that of the U.S., ...
Sweden's death rate is nearly six times as high as that of Norway and nearly triple that of its other Scandinavian neighbors Finland and Denmark.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1586321/stockholm-sweden-april-2020.jpg


[05-May-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
wow, even trump is criticizing sweden


[05-May-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
for not taking any measures to protect life


[05-May-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
more like "Trump is looking for any and every target because he is a caged animal constantly"


[05-May-20 02:55 AM] byte[]#2610
Sweden the big dumb


[05-May-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpEB5LjTj8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpEB5LjTj8
Addressing A Controversy
This is the greatest veganism of All Time
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[05-May-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Did he have another g*mer moment


[05-May-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[05-May-20 03:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow how many people take those right wing memes seriously


[05-May-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think it's something _most_ people will agree with


[05-May-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], what was the gamer moment?


[05-May-20 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZI60BHB4is

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penguinz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZI60BHB4is
Why Can't Games Just Be Fun
This is the greatest video game rant of All Time
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UZI60BHB4is/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-May-20 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
he identifies a real problem (corporate ideological shovelware) and construes it as a problem with people injecting politics into games that should "just be fun"


[05-May-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
I'm gonna predict he's gonna say that it's about female characters in video games


[05-May-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Charlie will probably end up like Joji


[05-May-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both of their actual passions are music.


[05-May-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't wait too long and end up like JonTron, pretending you're an actor in your apartment with a whole lighting set as you react to infomercials


[05-May-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh a heap of these youtubers earned enough money in the last 10-5 years to just retire, even if not at pewdiepie levels


[05-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well duh, byte, that's conservatism 101.


[05-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something bad is going on, but also it contains liberal ideas? Tell people that ideas don't belong in things, but only when you see liberal ideas, not conservative ones.


[05-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't want the problem fixed, he wants everybody to stop telling him that equality is good.


[05-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants his generic shooter game and/or Fortnite ripoff to feature a flamboyantly gay character, not like, a character who is otherwise normal, but also tells you he's gay. That would be terrible.


[05-May-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nebbie, kritical is probably one of the most left leaning YTs related in any way to games


[05-May-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I very much doubt he *actually* cares about social causes.


[05-May-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything I've seen of him is just him angrily insulting things with all the vulgar terms he knows and latching on to bandwagon hatred.


[05-May-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I very much doubt you've watched enough of his videos to form a worthwhile opinion


[05-May-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Regardless, I'm tired and have 10h of meetings without any breaks set up for me tomorrow so I need to clean up my room for when the paramedics find my corpse after I hung myself from my Ikea Svorgson lamp a week from now


[05-May-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's basically a dumb gymbro that gets all of his politics from Twitch stream chat


[05-May-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NVM he was like 15 or so when he started YouTube


[05-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He really hates the stuff that made him popular too.


[05-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't want to be the guy who talked about bloody anus snot or something


[05-May-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, his ideal would be putting out albums and then streaming his reaction to COPS on Twitch.


[05-May-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hilariously, his song he is famous for is basically a "wow guys in 2019 sure are pussies right" thing which makes his defense of idubbbz funny.


[05-May-20 07:35 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/venezuelas-elite-build-luxury-homes-and-resorts-in-countrys-protected-parks-11588593582

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Venezuela’s Elite Build Luxury Homes and Resorts in Country’s Prote...
Wealthy loyalists of Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro once splurged on real estate abroad. Now, having lost properties seized under U.S. corruption investigations and sanctions, a growing number of them are building estates in protected areas.
https://images.wsj.net/im-182530/social


[05-May-20 08:34 AM] Treascair#7785
got a link that doesn't get cut off and demand a subscription or login after a paragraph?


[05-May-20 08:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Treascair sorry. does this work? https://archive.is/iwFvV

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archived 5 May 2020 06:40:11 UTC
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[05-May-20 08:55 AM] Treascair#7785
ah, much better, thank you!


[05-May-20 08:56 AM] Treascair#7785
drives my husband and I up a wall when we get linked articles about important info and we run into 'you can't read this unless you pay us money/turn off your adblocker' stonewalls.


[05-May-20 09:40 AM] Midknight#9798
Get a better adblocker. the one i had couldn't get rid of those popups either, but new one can


[05-May-20 09:41 AM] Midknight#9798
ublock origin in firefox 🙂


[05-May-20 10:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome>
<https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox>


[05-May-20 10:05 AM] Treascair#7785
Teaspoon, you're a lifesaver! I'll toss these at my hubby too!


[05-May-20 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/28/washington-groups-fight-for-bailout-employee-health-insurance-215981

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The unlikely alliance trying to rescue workplace health insurance
As millions lose employer health plans, powerful Washington groups are uniting behind a bailout of the popular coverage.
https://static.politico.com/86/77/6c4151ae4314b960a4063b6efdf2/200428-insurance-ap-773.jpg


[05-May-20 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, big fight over how to do healthcare is brewing.


[05-May-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main idea is to appease conservatives and the wealthy with COBRA, which essentially subsidizes employment-based health insurance, to only benefit the upper middle class.


[05-May-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a huge waste of money compared to any other alternatives, and it's what companies will be lobbying hard to get.


[05-May-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, even with all that lobbying, it's looking like the numbers will simply be so large that there needs to be expansion of medicaid and such.


[05-May-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This very well could be the beginning of the end for employment-tied health insurance.


[05-May-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/politics/clarence-thomas-question/index.html

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Clarence Thomas breaks silence on bench during Supreme Court's firs...
Justice Clarence Thomas broke a year-long silence on the bench during the Supreme Court's first remote oral arguments on Monday, posing a number of rare questions under the court's new format.
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[05-May-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, it's entirely possible half the reason Thomas doesn't fukking ask questions when it's like half his job is that he's shy in-person.


[05-May-20 01:49 PM] illumnious#7938
WOOOOOW FUCKING WOOOOOOOW

Another cruel COVID-19 trick: Symptoms that won't go away https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fever-fatigue-fear-some-recovering-covid-19-patients-weeks-illness-n1197806

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Fever, fatigue, fear: For some COVID-19 patients recovering at home...
"I think I'm in the clear, but I'm not sure," said a patient with a persistent fever. "It feels never-ending. I am at a loss."
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_18/3334421/200502-covid-recovery-2x1-al-1113_b5af28d830b80bdc66d17a159ac32172.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[05-May-20 02:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Another incentive to stay at home


[05-May-20 02:05 PM] illumnious#7938
America relax you dumbass

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[05-May-20 02:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's increase?


[05-May-20 03:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
GAS GAS GAS. GOTTA DIE FAST


[05-May-20 05:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/americas/venezuela-maduro-americans-failed-invasion-intl/index.html

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Venezuela claims to have captured two Americans involved in failed ...
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro says two American "mercenaries" have been apprehended after a failed coup attempt launched over the weekend.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200505110508-nicols-maduro-tweet-0505-super-tease.jpg


[05-May-20 05:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-year-is-lining-up-exactly-like-the-2000-dot-com-bubble-crash-stocks-will-drop-40-from-here-former-goldman-manager-says-2020-05-04

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This year is lining up exactly like the 2000 dot-com bubble crash —...
It’s Monday and stocks are falling again, as U.S.-China tensions ramp up and states begin to emerge from lockdown.
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[05-May-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> Meanwhile, the health care industry is also trying to win back Americans’ trust about the affordability of the system, just months after hospitals and physician groups helped derail an effort to ban exorbitant “surprise” medical bills. Big insurance companies are waiving deductibles and copays for their commercial plans and the Trump administration is offering Medicare payments to hospitals so they don’t charge uninsured coronavirus patients.
:sunskeptical:


[05-May-20 07:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
How do you win back trust if there was none in the first place :ponythinking:


[05-May-20 07:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If the dem primaries were any indication, americans' main concern in health care is "keeping their doctor"


[05-May-20 07:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because apparently that guy that barely remembers your face and has to pull your file from the system to remember your name let alone your conditions and bleeds your wallet dry is your best friend


[05-May-20 07:45 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought americans were all antivax and antifacts/experts now though


[05-May-20 07:48 PM] Midknight#9798
That's the experience us young folks have with doctors, because we barely see them. My grandmother's on a first name basis with her doc though


[05-May-20 07:49 PM] Midknight#9798
@Teaspoon up there


[05-May-20 07:50 PM] Midknight#9798
and when you're old and dealing with a dozen or more things, breaking in a new doc so he knows you, your conditions, and what medications you do or don't react well to, with the knowledge that a screwup could mean Bad Things... I can understand how that would be daunting for someone


[05-May-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
NYT: Wall Street’s rally continues for a second day as oil prices rise.


[05-May-20 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
the sacrifices are increasing, and so does The Line


[05-May-20 08:26 PM] Midknight#9798
instead of tossing people into the caldera to appease the volcano god, they're sticking them in the ground all over to appease the oil god

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[05-May-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems to get the job done, too


[05-May-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about uncertainty over a doctor remembering your condition


[05-May-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that old Boomers actually think their doctor knows and cares about them


[05-May-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
because he's paid to sit there and listen and act like he does.


[05-May-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also all of them were raised to believe they are SPECIAL and BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE and that whatever they get is THE BEST


[05-May-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
So to them, losing their doctor sounds like getting one of those trash doctors they think everybody else has.


[05-May-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Boomers are like little kids who think no doll could replace their doll, cause their doll is special, except that it's their doctor instead, and they don't care if this means others can't hav dolls.


[05-May-20 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
On top of that, the existence of healthcare networks has ingrained in people who *didn't* grow up with the idea of a "family doctor" who came to visit the idea that doctors are exclusive because, well, they kinda are


[05-May-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Boomers are the generation that got mad that voting age was too old, so they demanded they get it NOW.


[05-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They really are just children who thought "growing up" meant no longer crying.


[05-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
In every possible *bad* way, they act like children.


[05-May-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can't just go to *any* doctor, oh no. They wouldn't have your medical history on file and you'd have to go through all that all over again and then pay over $100 just for going to a doctor your insurance decided they didn't cover...just for the new doctor to tell you you're healthy


[05-May-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The system's designed around keeping that mentality alive long after it ceased to be relevant


[05-May-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then when it comes to like, doing activities, they demand something "adult", and it's usually less fun and they bring toxic masculinity to it.


[05-May-20 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because health insurance is profit-driven, you *need* competition


[05-May-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers mokk Millennials for growing up by becoming more mature while still doing kid stuff.


[05-May-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that's kind of the correct way to go about it.


[05-May-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Both factors - the boomer thing and the industry thing - combine to create a system where basically boomers are proven right so they'll accept the illogical arguments for keeping things this way


[05-May-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a plague of childish locusts.


[05-May-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can only hope that in this current mess, the dieoff of them starts making openings for Bernie to slip in healthcare reform under Biden's nose.


[05-May-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
> They really are just children who thought "growing up" meant no longer crying.
Growing up means reaching the magical age of 18-21 (varies on country), then you immediately become mentally mature ofc.
> But then when it comes to like, doing activities, they demand something "adult", and it's usually less fun and they bring toxic masculinity to it.
I'm still baffled at what does "adult" mean outside "other people do it and kids aren't so lets do that"


[05-May-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Adult means you go to real prison and not juvie

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[05-May-20 09:25 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-May-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, technically that could be assigned to near every electronics manufacturer


[05-May-20 09:39 PM] ononim#8141
But could you recognise any over electronic manufacturer by their face


[05-May-20 09:40 PM] ononim#8141
check mate


[05-May-20 09:40 PM] ononim#8141

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[05-May-20 09:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just google x company CEO


[05-May-20 09:58 PM] Midknight#9798
calling something facts and logic doesn't make it true though


[05-May-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
@Midknight do americans even know what that is outside "that thing experts use to sound elitist so lets say it"


[05-May-20 10:05 PM] Midknight#9798
40% or so don't, apparently, since they think they get them from Fox


[05-May-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@ononim Fake, the left wing is still on the Ben Plane

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[05-May-20 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
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[05-May-20 11:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Don't worry, Anita will save them


[05-May-20 11:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...once she finishes crying about video games


[05-May-20 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/business/united-voluntary-separation/index.html

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United Airlines COO says employees should 'seriously consider' volu...
A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
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[05-May-20 11:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[05-May-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow how many anti-women are there in america? half? 90%?


[05-May-20 11:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why doesn't the executive voluntarily leave the company if it's that important to him? :ponythinking:


[05-May-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
stock base compensation deal that terminates if they do probably


[05-May-20 11:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, right.


[05-May-20 11:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*Money*. I forgot.


[05-May-20 11:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347411384352636928/707332960549863477/IMG_20200505_234752.jpg

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[05-May-20 11:27 PM] ononim#8141
do you ever think that perhaps Mao was far too lenient?


[05-May-20 11:33 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim were the comments encourage him to go :nut:


[05-May-20 11:34 PM] jlun2#8758
they do encourage them https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForLandlords/comments/gd7gkz/sexually_aroused_when_evicting_tenants_serious/

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r/LoveForLandlords - Sexually aroused when evicting tenants [serious]
304 votes and 49 comments so far on Reddit


[05-May-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> I get big boner when it's time to ask a r*nter for sexual favors in exchange for delayed payment.

> I love pretending to evict them so that they can be emotionally broken enough to be coerced into paying early and extra rent☺️☺️

> I always hope they get violent so I can sue them for more money


[05-May-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Satire


[05-May-20 11:37 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://consumerist.com/2016/09/01/feds-say-landlords-offering-reduced-rent-for-sex-evicted-tenants-when-they-refused/>
rip


[05-May-20 11:38 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] you sure?


[05-May-20 11:38 PM] jlun2#8758
^ ruined life fetish tho


[05-May-20 11:40 PM] ononim#8141
also yeah, reading the wiki it is 95% satire


[05-May-20 11:40 PM] jlun2#8758
oh well time to put down pitchforks
they should add that on the side bar so people dont go dox


[06-May-20 12:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
Pfft. 

https://www.travelagentcentral.com/transportation/south-african-airways-to-fire-all-employees-as-it-nears-collapse

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Bloomberg: South African Airways to Lay Off Staff as it Nears Collapse
After failing to receive additional financial aid, the airline plans to lay off its entire workforce, a move that signifies the airline’s collapse could be soon.
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[06-May-20 12:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> The state-owned airline offered a severance deal to all 4,700 staff after executives determined a turnaround was unlikely.
> 
> South African Airways SAA filed for business rescue, a process that is very similar to Chapter 11 bankruptcy laws in the United States, in early December 2019.


[06-May-20 12:23 AM] illumnious#7938
In today’s episode of welcome to Florida: fuckery

https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/ex-green-berets-bungle-coup-attempt-in-venezuela

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Ex-Green Berets tried to recruit this vet for a failed coup. Now he...
Three ex-Green Berets attempted to launch a coup in Venezeula. Now one veteran who stepped away from the endeavor speaks out.
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[06-May-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rick-bright-complaint-read-coronavirus-whistleblower-trump-hydroxychloroquine-a9500586.html

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Ousted US vaccine director files stunning whistleblower complaint
Dr Rick Bright led office overseeing vaccine development but was ousted after sounding alarm over controversial anti-malaria drug promoted by Trump despite FDA warnings
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[06-May-20 01:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trump-is-resigned-about-americas-economic-crisis-that-is-what-it-is/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump is resigned about America’s economic crisis: ‘That is what it...
President Donald Trump did not have an answer when asked about how much further the economy will plunge during a Tuesday interview with ABC News anchor David Muir. “There are 30 million Americans who are unemployed, you don’t need me to tell you that,” Muir said. “We’re expect...
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[06-May-20 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I'll say this for Trump - a lot of presidents tend to age rapidly over the course of their presidencies owing to the stress. But he looks just as bad as he did when he was elected


[06-May-20 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:twismug:


[06-May-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
I bet he's not stessing overmuch


[06-May-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
what's the worst that could happen, really?


[06-May-20 02:05 AM] Crow#5457
is it actually possible to have a constitutional monarchy where the monarchy still retains power without being able to act as the sole power of the government in real life? I see tons of fictional stuff that uses constitutional monarchies, especially in sci-fi stuff set centuries into the future


[06-May-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
isn't that not a monarchy


[06-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
the UK is still officially a constitutional monarchy, even though pretty much all powers of the crown have been ceded to parliament


[06-May-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
an absolute monarchy is where the monarchy is the sole power of government


[06-May-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
and is what people typically think of when they think of monarchies in general, where the monarch is a dictator


[06-May-20 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When they talk about constitutional Monarchies with an empowered monarch

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[06-May-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends, 19th century Germany was more or less that


[06-May-20 02:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anarcho-Cossack time


[06-May-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Kaiser wasn't absolute in his power but he was a powerful figure


[06-May-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which is how you could see socdem elections with substantial suffrage coexist with an ambitious egomaniacal Wilhelm II


[06-May-20 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When Lasaile be "Yes absolutely the key to liberation is working in the state and making concessions also worship me"


[06-May-20 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[06-May-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
the main reasoning I see for having a constitutional monarchy for a galaxy-spanning government is that it's the best way to maintain any form of centralized government over the obscenely large distances involved


[06-May-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
for reference, fictional sci-fi stuff usually either takes place in the milky way or a similarly sized galaxy that has a diameter of ~100k light-years


[06-May-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
so even if you were somehow able to move twice the speed of light, it would take you 50 thousand years to reach one side of the galaxy to the other


[06-May-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk source of original pic pls looks hot


[06-May-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
@jlun2 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/waiting-for-dad

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Waiting for Dad
Waiting for Dad refers to an edited version of 1954 advertisement by Arrow Casual Wear in which a family with knives is hiding behind the door waiting for the father. Online, the image has been used as an exploitable, particularly for object labeling.
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[06-May-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
tyvm


[06-May-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
the original is the family holding shirts


[06-May-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
and is from a magazine ad for shirts


[06-May-20 02:25 AM] jlun2#8758
im fine with the knives ty


[06-May-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Monaco
> 
> Monaco is a hereditary constitutional monarchy led by Prince Albert II. It was established in 1911.
> 
> Tourism drives the economy in the postage stamp-sized nation of 39,000 people.
> 
> In 1962, the country’s constitution was reformed to provide independence to portions of its judicial and legislative bodies.
> 
> For instance, legislative power is now shared by the prince and the National Council — a group of 24 members elected by popular vote every five years. The prince proposes laws and the National Council votes on them.
> 
> The prince also appoints a president to the seven-member Crown Council, which advises the prince on domestic and international issues, such as ratification of treaties and the granting of amnesty and citizenship.


[06-May-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Location_Monaco_Europe.png/1024px-Location_Monaco_Europe.png

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[06-May-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[06-May-20 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's barely larger than liechtenstein


[06-May-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Monaco is a tax haven and a cassino port basically


[06-May-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No way it could sustain itself as an independent state without these two industries


[06-May-20 02:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
The only intergalactic state I support is the Universal Union. Yes I stan for our trans soldiers of the Universal Union!


[06-May-20 02:32 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[06-May-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
isn't that the combine from half-life?


[06-May-20 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Crow I am Overwatch. We have to send you for off world deployment


[06-May-20 02:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comply or I retire your pain inhibitors.


[06-May-20 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
would it be ethical to legally enforce voting of all people of voting age? that's the only way I can see voter turnout ever exceeding 90%


[06-May-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
that collective unconscious ungulate idea is neat, but I highly doubt we'd ever find the technology capable of harnessing such a force in this universe


[06-May-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/496297-sanders-not-backing-warren-as-biden-vp-report

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is reportedly not supportive of the idea of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a fellow progressive, becoming former Vice President Joe Biden’s running mate.
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[06-May-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 bernie is attacked as misogynist again


[06-May-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
the only reason I can think of for constitutional monarchies being used so much in fiction is that the majority of americans don't actually trust modern democracy to represent them anymore


[06-May-20 03:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/91i01oIAYiw

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The american people are tired of women - Bernie Sanders
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[06-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52553829

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White House plans to disband virus task force
The vice-president says the task force may wind down by the end of May or early June.
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[06-May-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
he doesn't like fauci getting the spotlight


[06-May-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately for the US, this is the dumbest possible move and will virtually guarantee a major resurgence of the virus


[06-May-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie , ready for a devastated economy come November?


[06-May-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
McConnell might lose reelection at this rate.


[06-May-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it will be fine by the end of the month, and only resurge in like September


[06-May-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/south-carolina-senate/south-carolina-senate-moves-likely-republican

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It's hard to think of a politician who has undergone a bigger evolution over the past four years than South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. But could that very political makeover hurt him at the ballot box in 2020, even in a reliably red state?
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[06-May-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Graham loses to Patrice O'Neal's zombie


[06-May-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine it


[06-May-20 03:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>disband virus task force


[06-May-20 03:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
So we have a vaccine for it now? :xd:


[06-May-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck even if we _had_ a vaccine we'd need a task force just to get people to take it


[06-May-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
antivax going crazy these past few months


[06-May-20 03:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, right.


[06-May-20 03:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They exist


[06-May-20 03:39 AM] jlun2#8758
how many of those exist in america again? is it rising?


[06-May-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
look it up


[06-May-20 03:44 AM] jlun2#8758
from google, restricting to past year, "how many antivaxxers are there in america"
<https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/vaccines-vaccination/45-percent-surveyed-american-adults-doubt-vaccine-safety>
rip
<https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/coronavirus/poll-less-than-a-third-of-america-will-rush-to-get-coronavirus-vaccine/2298088/>


[06-May-20 04:28 AM] illumnious#7938
Okay now I want to die https://www.instagram.com/p/B_0iSPhl4y6/?igshid=96v0vbotsdes

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73.5k Likes, 1,197 Comments - Donald Trump Jr. (@donaldjtrumpjr) on Instagram: “I mean it really is a Memer’s dream come true. 🤣🤣🤣 #cincodemayo #tacotuesday #corona”
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[06-May-20 04:28 AM] illumnious#7938
What the actual fuck


[06-May-20 04:28 AM] illumnious#7938
Did he just


[06-May-20 04:28 AM] illumnious#7938
Meme??????


[06-May-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, it's the aides


[06-May-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
someone got the clever idea to try that 'memeing' thing


[06-May-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe they hired a new intern


[06-May-20 04:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/11/these-countries-have-some-of-the-highest-voter-turnout-in-the-world/

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These are the countries with the highest voter turnout
A record-breaking 40 million Americans cast their vote early in the midterm elections. Here’s how the US turnout stacks up against other developed countries.
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[06-May-20 04:57 AM] illumnious#7938
America right


[06-May-20 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
I'm confused as to how switzerland 2015 had a 38.6% voter turnout when voting is compulsory


[06-May-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
needs must :D


[06-May-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Switzerland doesn't hav a very strong federal gov't.


[06-May-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/politics/ny-presidential-primary.html

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New York Must Hold Democratic Presidential Primary, Judge Rules
The primary in June, which had been canceled over concerns about the coronavirus, should still be held, with all qualifying candidates restored to the ballot, a federal judge ruled.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/05/us/politics/05nyprimary/05nyprimary-facebookJumbo.jpg


[06-May-20 05:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/trump-fails-to-wear-a-mask-while-touring-a-mask-factory.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=di

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Trump Fails to Wear a Mask While Touring a Mask-Making Factory
Ignoring CDC requirements to the tune of “Live and Let Die” wasn’t the ideal photo opp for Trump’s first trip outside the White House in a month.
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[06-May-20 06:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse I hate myself I jumped into a youtube comment thread saying that Trumps responce to covid 19 was horrible and listing reasons why I don't think he would win relection. In my correspondence I recently got this gem of a reply."he said disinfectants, not bleach, dont weasel your way around it
it was a perceived crisis. the people got scared of a bad chest cold, that gave politicians all over the world just the excuse to squeeze in a little more power for themselves. look at what Trudy up in Canukistan just did with it
trump should not have left it up to the states, too many governors are the type to abuse that power, look at my angry lesbian in chief here in Oregon. two more months of state of emergency? it's fucking over, we can reopen you turbodyke!"I can show you screen caps if you want. But like tomorow

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[06-May-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think we're interested in YouTube comment threads. Those are just a cesspool.


[06-May-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yeah, I've heard that argument, that because he only talked about "disinfectants" and "injecting them or something", that he totally wasn't meaning bleach, or injecting (because "or something").


[06-May-20 06:29 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh I see the merit of that comment


[06-May-20 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
a lot of governments did use it to tighten up the screws a lil bit (or maybe more than a little bit)


[06-May-20 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
as for 'hoax or real' thing... It's difficult to say.


[06-May-20 06:31 AM] Opponent#3498
like, I'm not doing the science denial thing.


[06-May-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it's genuinly difficult to say, especially if you're used to politicised, polarised crap coming at you from all directions, all seemingly based on 'facts and logic'


[06-May-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
and only some of it without '


[06-May-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The science of this is incredibly straightforward.


[06-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is only a fukking "'"'`polarized debate`'"'" here because conservatives are literally screaming bullshit.


[06-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like saying there's polarized crap about the Earth being round or not.


[06-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because some fukking crazies think it's not.


[06-May-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
the models are, yes. What those are based on, like the exponential growth rate etc... People assumed things at the start and rolled with it.


[06-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're crazies, they shouldn't be listened to.


[06-May-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the concept of flattening the curve is obvious beyond doubt.


[06-May-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
the _nessesity_ of it isn't.


[06-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the models with assumptions of the lesser numbers on the danger of the virus showed pretty fukking crazy things.


[06-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you hav *any idea* how big a problem it is to run out of ICU capacity?


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point you just don't hav anything to handle the next batch of patients.


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Opponent#3498
'graveyards in the parks' kind of a problem I'd imagine.


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I get it.


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They **DROWN IN THEIR OWN BLOOD**


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Opponent#3498
better safe than sorry.


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
BY THE THOUSANDS


[06-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we're very much at the "graveyards in the parks" stage now.


[06-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hospitals in New York hav refrigerated trailers parked to contain the bodies temporarily.


[06-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't last, and not all of the trailers are refrigerated.


[06-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a damn mess.


[06-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the overall death rate is spiking in a way that strongly suggests most people aren't getting care.


[06-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, there are people drowning in their own blood *at home, with no help arriving*.


[06-May-20 06:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a bad way to go, yeah.


[06-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Monthly death rates 225% above normal are not good.


[06-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reality we are in.


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Nebbie yeah i know its a cesspool but I needed to see how the Trumpest mind thinks


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this btw


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also make fun of them


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
is not the worst that was predicted.


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reality we are in is actually among the milder suspected outcomes.


[06-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the slightly flattened curve.


[06-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman the main thing to realize about the conservative mindset is they don't care about mitigation; if a problem can't be entirely eliminated, they just believe you should use the law to punish things you don't like, rather than as a tool to change things.


[06-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they hate the lokkdown so much.


[06-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It punishes people for normal behavior, while not making the problem disappear overnite.


[06-May-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically same as gun control.


[06-May-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The conservative mindset is "Why shower, I'll just get dirty again"


[06-May-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why clean up the mud I track in, it won't organize my sock drawer


[06-May-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do anything unless it's a magic spell to fix everything?


[06-May-20 08:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how does that mindset match the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps." that is preached by them.


[06-May-20 08:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
as that doesn't sound like the same conservatives you are describing


[06-May-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
implying conservatives have ever had a bootstrapping problem


[06-May-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just something they say to justify people receiving unequal treatment


[06-May-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not a genuine argument


[06-May-20 08:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People can appeal to conservative voters easily basically by appealing to laziness.


[06-May-20 08:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why fix anything, too much work. I'm the guy who will work to ensure you never have to.


[06-May-20 08:50 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[06-May-20 08:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm the guy who will work ensure _other people_ get paid nothing and worked to the bone so you can enjoy life in relative comfort


[06-May-20 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also fixing things is wrong anyway


[06-May-20 08:52 AM] Honahue#0656
nah one thing that deffinatley represents American mentality is single source recycling, I can't be bothering to do a bit of work sorting things out so I'll just dump it allin a bin and make it someone elses problem to sort


[06-May-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even sorted recycling doesn't do as much


[06-May-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also it requires a degree of effort people aren't generally going to put into their garbage


[06-May-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Everything_ must be rinsed out.


[06-May-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And broken down


[06-May-20 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
in Japan and Sweden is just how they do trash, it's not impossible but it's too much work and it's my freedom to just throw things away


[06-May-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Single source is definitely the worst though yeah


[06-May-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But regardless an unclean recyclable is just thrown into the garbage most of the time anyway


[06-May-20 08:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno the hardest thing to clean is peanut butter jars imo and I just put some soap and water in them and leave it for a day that works pretty well


[06-May-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
single source recycling is a symptom


[06-May-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
americans produce _so much fucking trash_


[06-May-20 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe fix that and it would be easier to sort through what you had to


[06-May-20 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
recycling is supposed to be a _last resort_ to extract value from a particular non renewable resource


[06-May-20 09:30 AM] byte[]#2610
the three Rs are reduce reuse recycle


[06-May-20 09:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is not about will to sort their garbage, it is about will. People's and government. I have seen "stations" where it has labelled bins saying, where respective material should go. Looks enough intuitive.

That's is on paper, but in reality... A regular garbage truck arrives and dumps all of it into a single pile to be transported to landfill.


[06-May-20 09:34 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am not surprised, why I was laughed at following these labels.


[06-May-20 09:40 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The entire sorting thing is left to private houses and homeless, who are willing to control what is going into specific bin and specific center.


[06-May-20 09:42 AM] byte[]#2610
there are three types of items which are worth roughly categorizing for recycling because they have robust recycling processes


[06-May-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
metals, glass, and textiles


[06-May-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
iron is an extreme example for metals because the vast majority of it is recycled using EAFs


[06-May-20 09:43 AM] byte[]#2610
but zinc and chromium and nickel are well recycled too


[06-May-20 09:44 AM] byte[]#2610
textiles are bleached and mixed back in with fresh wood pulp to make post consumer paper


[06-May-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
glass is melted down in the presence of strong oxidizers to remove organic impurities


[06-May-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
metal aside, which is barely even relevant, this really shouldn't even have to be a discussion


[06-May-20 09:45 AM] byte[]#2610
why are we generating so much waste?


[06-May-20 09:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Mostly these comes from containers.


[06-May-20 09:47 AM] Honahue#0656
because it is more profitable to be wasteful


[06-May-20 09:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even conscious fast food chains stopped serving food in a plastic containers in favor of cardboard ones.


[06-May-20 09:47 AM] byte[]#2610
textiles, recyclable


[06-May-20 09:48 AM] byte[]#2610
but more importantly, it also can degrade naturally if not recycled


[06-May-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bootstraps thing is because "why should the law be used to fix poverty? It'll always exist"


[06-May-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, to conservatives, every problem that exists is a "people" problem: Bad people do bad things, people don't do things right, what can you do?


[06-May-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not "Why clean my room? it'll just get dirty again.", really, it's more "What the hell do you mean I need to get my son shelves for shit because he leaves things on the floor? He shouldn't be rewarded for his messy behavior!"


[06-May-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, as applied to themselves, it'd be like "No, I don't need to start writing things down, I just need to remember better!"


[06-May-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mix in a bit of hitting the son when he takes too long to clean up, and hypocritically making up excuses for their own personal problems of a similar nature, and there ya go.


[06-May-20 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, the conservative view of ghettos, the main thing brought up with the bootstraps spiel, is that the ghetto is kept bad by blakk people being bad, and that trying to fix it for them would be rewarding them much in the same way as the clean up the room example.


[06-May-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The added wrinkle is that the ghetto being bad actually feeds into how people that liv their grow up, but again, conservatives *don't care*, they believe it's on those people to just do better. Everything is framed as a people problem. The gov't's job is seen to be to reward or punish people based on how well they do objectively, no regard given to their environment or anything, rather than to, you know, *fix their environments*.


[06-May-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, saying "I won't fix anything" won't work, @Itsthinking. Conservatives want the gov't to be out putting down blakk people for being worse.


[06-May-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do believe there are problems that need to be fixed. Those problems are people who they've determined to be needing punishment instead getting rewards.


[06-May-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is further why conservatives want to defend Trump on the thing about injecting disinfectants. They see it as *not his fault* that people actually do stuff like that, they simply see it as the fault of individual people who would be dumb enuff to listen to him. To a conservative, nobody is **ever** at fault for what they say on support or contribute to, only the people who actually do the thing are at fault.


[06-May-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they're bemoaning people saying/supporting something, what they're actually angry about is that the person is saying or supporting the wrong set of beliefs, *not* the end result of what that person's saying.


[06-May-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say if a liberal supports gay marriage in the forest and nobody's around to hear, they still don't want that person saying those things. They aren't *at all* truly concerned with people hearing it or not. Notably, this is why "you don't hav to be gay married" doesn't work as an argument; the conservative position is that someone being different about marriage is wrong in and of itself regardless of how it affects anyone else ever.


[06-May-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And further, just the gov't saying it's legal is seen as bad *not because people might listen*, but simply because the gov't has strayed off the correct path. Nobody could ever gay marry, but just having it be legal on the books is seen as a problem to conservatives.


[06-May-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, consider the whole controversy over the ACA and contraceptive care. Remember, conservatives are fine with those employees still getting contraceptive care, just not from the religious employer's money, *because the real issue is the religious employer being forced to accept that it's alright for the employee to use contraceptives, not because contraceptives will be used*.


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[06-May-20 10:52 AM] byte[]#2610
> But if they stop the trolley now, what about all the people who already died? They’ll have died for no reason then!


[06-May-20 10:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-May-20 02:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[06-May-20 07:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[06-May-20 07:28 PM] jlun2#8758
does that even do shit


[06-May-20 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It makes lawyers money


[06-May-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It also appeases conservatives.


[06-May-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they don't want to fix problems, they just want to punish whoever they think did something wrong.


[06-May-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same shit as the bill that lets people sue Saudi Arabia over 9/11.


[06-May-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It accomplishes absolutely nothing but blame another country for the actions of its citizens.


[06-May-20 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[06-May-20 09:03 PM] Honahue#0656
Yer a comrade 'arry


[06-May-20 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9655837/1/Harry-Potter-Becomes-A-Communist


[06-May-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
I linked it like a year ago


[06-May-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
because it was wat


[06-May-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
and it's still wat


[06-May-20 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
this is what ex-USSR people think of when you mention communism


[06-May-20 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
also, this is what 1910-20's Russia lived through :D


[06-May-20 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
the typical fresh communist convert behaved like this.


[06-May-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the last piece missing is a Nagant 1895 revolver though.


[06-May-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Odds

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[06-May-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These are all sports betting odds btw


[06-May-20 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, this is very odd


[06-May-20 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[06-May-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amash could mess things up for either candidate


[07-May-20 12:29 AM] ononim#8141
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[07-May-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
twitter made humanity dumber change my mind


[07-May-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not wrong


[07-May-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
unable to determine if satire https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/707406032544202783/image0.png

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[07-May-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
:raep: 4Biden


[07-May-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
also if that went viral ew. i hope that doesnt make the party pro-rape irl


[07-May-20 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
things like these are w/e


[07-May-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
> unable to determine if satire


[07-May-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
I had this issue in like 2017


[07-May-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
now I don't even bother trying


[07-May-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's always a coin toss


[07-May-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
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[07-May-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty sure she's not parody


[07-May-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
3 years apart, maybe she warmed up to the rape fantasy :D


[07-May-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
suprising to see anti-Sanders post from '17 tho


[07-May-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
didn't think he was well-known until '19


[07-May-20 01:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
naw, he had a big following in the '16 election


[07-May-20 01:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
same thing happened tho


[07-May-20 01:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
DNC bent rules around to deny him votes


[07-May-20 01:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
enusred that only the person they wanted to win would win


[07-May-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Sanders was huge in 2016, but a lot of the same problems this year were present back then too, gerry rigging, registration wipes, inaccessibility, job scheduling, and retired vs employed voters. The DNC also had a huge part with their superdelegates however even without the superdelegates clinton was set to win nomination


[07-May-20 01:14 AM] Cloudy#3004
^


[07-May-20 01:14 AM] Cloudy#3004
DNC is massive garbage and doesn't care about what voters want


[07-May-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DNC fucked him over in 2016, but not 2020. 2020 was all on him.


[07-May-20 01:15 AM] Honahue#0656
the DNC did screw him over this year, Biden won in one state then the rest of the contenders dropped out and endorced him then he started winning over Bernie


[07-May-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That wasn't the DNC, that was the moderate wing of the party making a backroom deal.


[07-May-20 01:16 AM] Honahue#0656
I guess I don't see the difference


[07-May-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie also won states that are unrepresentative of the party's voting base.


[07-May-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
the DNC is not party leadership, though they are connected


[07-May-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't party leadership, it was the moderates going "Holy shit, we need to get behind Biden or we'll nominate a socialist and absolutely lose"


[07-May-20 01:17 AM] Honahue#0656
oh no, I think they knew Bernie had a shot at winning


[07-May-20 01:18 AM] Honahue#0656
they were worried he would win


[07-May-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He did, yes. But it would have been too close


[07-May-20 01:18 AM] Honahue#0656
cause that's worse for them than if Trump gets another term


[07-May-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's actually better for the progressive wing of the party if Trump gets another term


[07-May-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worse for the moderate wing


[07-May-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Biden loses this year, the moderates are basically out of control of their party by 2024.


[07-May-20 01:19 AM] Honahue#0656
depends on how you mean, Trump getting another term is going to put more screws on the working class, moderate Dems will mostly be fine cause they're invested in the system and it'll do great under Trump


[07-May-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[07-May-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dem voters will again say they had someone foisted on them that they didn't want


[07-May-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Moderates won't be able to argue that they can win


[07-May-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you are an avowed socialist in 2024 after Trump serves two terms, you won't even be considered.


[07-May-20 01:23 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't think that's true, the moderate part of the Dems won't even let a milquetoast DemSoc have a chance, there's no way the DNC is suddenly going to put up an actual socialist


[07-May-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two terms of Trump


[07-May-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also depends on what choices even exist in 2024


[07-May-20 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
Bernie's revolution was the revolution to be more like a Euro country, it's still capitalism


[07-May-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
just with some welfare state


[07-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 will be Trump Jr. or Ivanka as the leading GOP candidate


[07-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AOC as leading Dem


[07-May-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
that I would believe


[07-May-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
AOC maybe


[07-May-20 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
she's a little too junior, but maybe by 2024 enough boomers will have died that won't be a problem I think Millenials are offically the largest demographic in america now


[07-May-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
AOC huh. Yeah, her vs Trump Jr. is like Hillary vs Trump but _even more_ fucked up :D


[07-May-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
fun times ahead of you.


[07-May-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is implying kushner doesnt run in 2024


[07-May-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
he and Trump jr are interchangeable here.


[07-May-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, though trump jr. will be sadder to watch as he tries to impress his father while kushner  will waltz onto stage with all the blessings and confidence of Trump that  Jr isnt getting


[07-May-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Kushner is already being called a de facto president by white house staff


[07-May-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/silvercorp-tweeted-venezuelan-coup/

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The Trump-linked company behind failed Venezuela coup livetweeted t...
Silvercorp USA, the private security company behind the failed Venezuelan coup, tweeted about the attack as it was happening.
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[07-May-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
lmao

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[07-May-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
like Kushner is the face of neoliberalism, Trump is the face of malicious incompetence


[07-May-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
in everything he does and everyone he keeps close.


[07-May-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
jesus.


[07-May-20 01:48 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do we get these action camera livestreams?


[07-May-20 01:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's the next step.


[07-May-20 01:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] and the Associated Press reported on the plot days earlier—not that it mattered, as Venezuela had infiltrated the group by late March [...]


[07-May-20 01:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] They were easily detained by local fishermen. [...]


[07-May-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> by local fishermen


[07-May-20 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao imagine being defeated by the dudes who look at fish go bloop


[07-May-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-May-20 02:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Based? Based on what? :wat:


[07-May-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Based and redpilled


[07-May-20 02:12 AM] Honahue#0656
American soliders greatest weakness are third world farmers and fishers


[07-May-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🇵ased


[07-May-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also i noticed


[07-May-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The dude on the pic is pogging


[07-May-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
@Marukomuru https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based-and-redpilled

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Based And Redpilled
Based And Redpilled is a phrase that has been used on sites such as 4chan and Reddit to agree with and praise something, particularly something controversia
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[07-May-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Poggers university


[07-May-20 02:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> Based And Redpilled is a phrase that has been used on sites such as 4chan and Reddit to agree with and praise something, particularly something controversial. The opposite phrase is Cringe And Bluepilled.
I did not expect matrix red pill to be somehow related to liking an unpopular ship, but ok


[07-May-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
usually "based and redpilled" is preceded by a statement along the lines of "hitler had every right to gas the inferior races"


[07-May-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[07-May-20 02:43 AM] jlun2#8758
Yes, please give me free porn


[07-May-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God, all they had to do was give him a bunch of speed and he would have OD'd.


[07-May-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-May-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Youth vote isn't as influential as it seems


[07-May-20 03:28 AM] jlun2#8758
> Youth vote
:wheeze:


[07-May-20 03:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-task-force/white-house-to-wind-down-coronavirus-task-force-as-focus-shifts-to-aftermath-trump-idUSKBN22H2KJ

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White House to wind down coronavirus task force as focus shifts to ...
The White House coronavirus task force will wind down as the country moves into a second phase that focuses on the aftermath of the outbreak, President Donald Trump said on Tuesday.
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200505&t=2&i=1517588793&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG4421S


[07-May-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> aftermath
it's over?


[07-May-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nope. It is only just beginning


[07-May-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Expecting a massive spike in cases here by summer


[07-May-20 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everything to just sorta open, a few weeks, cases start building again, and then explosion


[07-May-20 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/davidmcswane/status/1258035535936921601

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1) The VA signed a $34.5 million deal for N95 masks with a company that advertised “block chain” solutions and had only existed for 2 years. 

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[07-May-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's not over, It's just hogging the spotlight and that's a more important problem than actually solving the outbreak


[07-May-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the task force is also preventing Trump from firing certain individuals for PR and important task reasons. So that needs to end so he can fire them for taking his spotlight and contradicting his lies.


[07-May-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.startribune.com/murder-charges-shooter-with-permit-to-carry-fired-at-unarmed-man-after-fender-bender/570176802/

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Murder charges: Shooter with permit to carry shot and killed an una...
Argument escalated; Anthony Trifletti held in lieu of $1 million bail.
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[07-May-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_675,w_1200,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1588741539/200505-wilson-trump-corona-tease_1_i24cgp

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[07-May-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Donald Trump lives in a society


[07-May-20 05:08 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[07-May-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-taps-top-republican-fundraiser-to-lead-us-postal-service-2020-5

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Trump taps a major donor to oversee the Postal Service as he tries ...
The new postmaster general's coziness with Trump will likely facilitate his efforts to dramatically raise delivery prices for Amazon.
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[07-May-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
> dramatically raise delivery prices for Amazon
time to automate them away then


[07-May-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"And other online retailers, but mostly amazon"


[07-May-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazon will just do what they did in Europe, have their own delivery service


[07-May-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They were working on a whole drone delivery service type thing, but that would still likely only be in cities and suburban areas


[07-May-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea what happened with that


[07-May-20 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
people promised to shoot the drones down and attempted it in a couple of instances


[07-May-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-May-20 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/5/6/21249202/ahmaud-arbery-jogger-killed-in-georgia-video-shooting-grand-jury

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The killing of Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black jogger in Georgia, e...
A viral video has intensified calls for a more rigorous investigation into Arbery’s death.
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[07-May-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
> A video showing the last moments of a young unarmed black man’s life has sparked outrage among criminal justice advocates across the country — and has led a Georgia prosecutor to call for a grand jury to investigate the fatal shooting.
> 
> Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was shot and killed in the Satilla Shores neighborhood on February 23, 2020, following an altercation with a white father and son. The men — Gregory and Travis McMichael, the former a retired district attorney investigator and police detective — armed themselves and followed Arbery in Travis McMichael’s pickup truck after seeing him jog by; they later told police officers they believed Arbery to be a suspect in two burglaries in the area.
> 
> Previously, the only public record of Arbery’s final moments were the statements the McMichaels gave to police. But a video depicting a struggle between Arbery and Travis McMichael went viral on Tuesday, after being posted (and then deleted) by a radio station.
> 
> Arbery’s mother, Wanda Cooper, told CBS News that the newly emerged video “proves that my son was not committing a crime. He was out for his daily jog and he was hunted down like an animal and killed.”


[07-May-20 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Police brutality bordering on hate crimes


[07-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The youth vote would be very influential if Republicans weren't very successful putting off any attempt to make voting easier.


[07-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've stopped even making up excuses.


[07-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally just them now saying "if voting was by mail, [we] wouldn't ever win an election"


[07-May-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't Utah vote by mail


[07-May-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't several major conservative areas


[07-May-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, voting by mail is popular in the west and used to strongly favor Republicans because it brought in people from rural areas and even overseas.


[07-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, more recently, they've been shutting down in-person polling places in minority areas because SCOTUS killed the VRA.


[07-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, voting by mail actually now favors Democrats because it allows people who would otherwise lose their job by taking the day off to stand in line only for the machines to fail to vote.


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I can't imagine the majority of people who would like to go vote couldn't find a way to get a day off.


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I really cannot.


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Republicans are now mainly fighting in the east, as the west is largely uncompetitive. In the east, voting by mail tends to be of the kind where you need a damn good excuse, like being in the military. As a result, any expansion of voting by mail would kill Republicans and reestablish the Blue Wall.


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
you never worked retal


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Opponent#3498
so what, all the fabled 'youth voters' is retail?


[07-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, if you don't show up one day working in the first 6 months at Walmart, they fire you the same day.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
bosses also schedule you unpredictably


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, retail sucks. I get it.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
No questions asked.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
and can call you in at any time


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yes young people are frequently working retail


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just retail.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
this is typical for most jobs in the US now


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of jobs do not allow you a day off.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Opponent#3498
ever. For any reason.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
even if your mom dies


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
no day off


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
it's one of the few jobs that can't be outsourced


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most will take "I got in a car accident"


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yet


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not all will.


[07-May-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
come in or lose your job


[07-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, people with the virus are being forced to work or they'll be fired.


[07-May-20 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
legally they have to give you time off to vote but try and push that on your boss you'll lose that fight


[07-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why the meat industry is falling apart.


[07-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meat pakking plants don't provide protective equipment or sikk days.


[07-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Workers are elbow to elbow.


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
well a lot of meat workers are either immigrants or prison labor


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
so fuckem both I guess


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well 'right now' it's a matter of principle to do so; mad profits to be made (And also pretending the problem doesn't exist)


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this isn't a change from the status quo.


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
that's the thing, capital can't stand a loss of profit, it demands constant growth


[07-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing that's different is Congress said you need to offer COVID-19-only paid sikk leave if you are a moderately small business.


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
oh yeah they are just pocketing that shit


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
someone at my work got time off cause they already have respritory problems


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
doctors note and everything


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the law on taking time off work to vote varies by state.


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not federal.


[07-May-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
but cause she wasn't working 40 hours a week before COVID she doesn't get any pay


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
because of course they do...


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in many states that do it, they set a number of hours.


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
are there any laws that _matter_ that are federal?


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, in Alabama


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Opponent#3498
outside of taxes?


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get one hour to vote


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
ONE HOUR


[07-May-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is common for people to wait in line six hours to vote.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in blakk neighborhoods where Republicans took away almost all voting capacity.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Opponent#3498
how comes the shitty 3rd world country that is Ukraine does this shit so much better?


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean really.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
in my area voting has always been fast but it;'s a fairly white suburban/rural area so of course it is


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
racism


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's two or three hours required in most states.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism is a hell of a drug.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why I connect everything to race in US politics.


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
America is built on racism


[07-May-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
BECAUSE IT IS.


[07-May-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
cities are shaped by racism


[07-May-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are like 20 illogical things everywhere you look.


[07-May-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
90% of them are from racism.


[07-May-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The remaining 10% are indirectly caused by the other 90%.


[07-May-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you pulled out the racism, the US would hav virtually entirely different law.


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also do recognize


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
gun control laws are almost all cause of racism


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
redlining


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can't just write a law in the US that says "it's okay when whites do it"


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
the courts will blow that up in a heartbeat


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
and city highways, also shaped by racism


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there's nothing that says you can't make it so employers can stop people from going out to vote while the state gov't makes it so certain blakk areas get less voting machines.


[07-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
There WAS something before


[07-May-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden basically won Super Tuesday because of the dedication and free time of boomers to wait seven hours plus in South Carolina


[07-May-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
then SCOTUS said "nah racism is solved guys"


[07-May-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
and immediately the south went to work fukking everything up even harder than they already were.


[07-May-20 07:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHqZ5F2CcsU

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May.06 -- President Donald Trump contradicted a nurse who said during a meeting with him at the White House Wednesday that the supply for personal protective equipment at her health system was "sporadic." Trump said “sporadic for you” but not for a lot of other people.
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[07-May-20 07:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Cringe


[07-May-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Massive rule changes paired with moving around voting sites and funding.


[07-May-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Letting the South back in was a mistake.


[07-May-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lincoln's VP should've been fukking stabbed to death on the Senate floor.


[07-May-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
After Lincoln died, his VP, who was a Southerner meant to ease rebuilding tensions, got sworn in drunk ranting about how his home state totally never seceded.


[07-May-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It did, he was just one of the few Southerners that didn't defect


[07-May-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congress passed an unconstitutional bill just to make sure that it was easy to entrap him for impeachment as he flagrantly defied the laws they'd written and vetoed anything that was anti-South.


[07-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it set in place that the president is basically untouchable.


[07-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perfect storm for impeachment and it failed.


[07-May-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only should they not have been allowed in quickly, they should have been completely reorganized in terms of geography and renamed after Union war heroes


[07-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the guy had actually been removed from office, it would've set precedent that I think would've led to using impeachment more, and actually being able to oust Trump when the time came.


[07-May-20 07:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie wait meat industry is falling apart? I thought they had an unlimited amount of desperate poor people to exploit


[07-May-20 07:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A state named Lincoln, one named Grant, one named Sherman, etc


[07-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those poor people hav stimulus money and unemployment now.


[07-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's not that they ran out of normal replacement workers.


[07-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that whole slaughterhouses just become massive COVID-19 farms basically.


[07-May-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire place gets the virus all at once because hygiene between workers is nonexistent.


[07-May-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone who has gotten impeached so far deserved removal from office, but escaped it. It's toothless now.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm surprised they can't jsut say "but we will lose jobs" + meat == food == essential and be above getting shut down


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, these places are designed to protect the meat from the workers, not the workers from each other.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they don't even do that well.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
the problem isn't the gov't comes in


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that THERE IS NOBODY LEFT


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half the workers in the hospital.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] jlun2#8758
ah


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Opponent#3498
least we gotta be thankful this virus dies from heat... Imagine if this shit spread via meat.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The remaining half run for the hills.


[07-May-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didnt Purdue have workers wearing diapers because no bathroom breaks


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many Americans don't cook their food all the way btw.


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this virus isn't particularly heat-resistant.


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know Amazon's had piss bottles


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, they pay you based on performance


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
their targets are unrealistic


[07-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
so time spent peeing is time spent not getting higher pay


[07-May-20 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just remember reading meat plants specifically chicken ones are the worst because it's intricate work that can't be stopped


[07-May-20 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chicken is probably worse than beef because beef is just cutting into huge chunks, chicken is a lot of specific cuts


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's ultimately stuff that should've been automated a decade ago.


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
gotta question 'cannot be stopped' thing


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But automation means a high upfront cost.


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not metalworks


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] byte[]#2610
assembly line


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that if you stop it then you hold up everything before it.


[07-May-20 07:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The chickens are speared on a skewer


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's a bit of a problem with meat because it's not supposed to sit in the air too long.


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have a knife and chain mail gloves


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> It's ultimately stuff that should've been automated a decade ago.
I know the feeling. I ask before and people just go "it's how we done things" and annoys the hell out of me


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seconds to cut the wings and breasts off


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then another one comes


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not because "it's how we do things", @jlun2


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
it's because paying undocumented immigrants to do the labor is cheaper than the capex to automate the process


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Automation requires a large upfront capital cost.


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does save money in the long run.


[07-May-20 07:53 AM] Opponent#3498
so the issue is with individul breaks. Yeah okay, I see the problem.


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speaking of automation


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But US businesses only care about the next quarter.


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they invest money overhauling even one plant, that means that their quarterly profits go down.


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Investors then pull out.


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The company dies.


[07-May-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have any of you seen that infamous video of how premade sandwiches are made and gloves are used at every step but actually assembling the sandwiches


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like loading the meat and bread logs, gloves. Flipping the top slice onto the bottom, nope


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is also why only the very biggest companies are just now considering going to LED lighting.


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've saved them billions to do it 5 years ago.


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it would've costed them millions.


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Opponent#3498
so the issue is with business philosophy more than anything


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it's an issue with share-driven business


[07-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, US capitalism is massively focused on pleasing investors.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] byte[]#2610
dividends above all


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Investors just want to see continuous growth.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
which is unsustainable by default.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder which kind of math models could support this shit.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only that, but it hinders innovation.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US model is to innovate by starting a new company.


[07-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to innovate by investing in new tech in an existing company.


[07-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you end up with businesses just collapsing and new stuff rising from the ashes.


[07-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the chikken-cutting will be automated **when the current businesses doing chikken-cutting DIE IN A FIRE**


[07-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is bad.


[07-May-20 07:57 AM] jlun2#8758
Facebook collapse pls :sad:


[07-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leaves people with unstable employment and leads to large gaps between innovation times.


[07-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a lot of money is wasted on new businesses that go bankrupt in a year when investors pull out.


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our GDP is so high mainly because monopolistic businesses that refuse to innovate can continually crank out things the old way while stiffing workers.


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] jlun2#8758
i suppose no way to change this in US?


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just funnel money to the top.


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a culture thing


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those monopolies help make sure new businesses die.


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause again, innovation won't happen unless they die to a new business.


[07-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no healthy competition.


[07-May-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically the Chinese emperor approach to innovation.


[07-May-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually revolt comes in and just kills everything.


[07-May-20 08:01 AM] jlun2#8758
"revolt"? how does that realistically look like in US? Angry social media rants and a tiny demonstration IRL?


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
he means metaphorically


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
for business  there's no development outside of scale


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
it exists eternal


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
then it dies in a fire.


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like investors turning tail as a company makes vague promises while Startup #231 suddenly creates a whole new supply chain concept and doesn't die in the first 6 months.


[07-May-20 08:02 AM] Opponent#3498
reminiscent of ancient China really.


[07-May-20 08:05 AM] jlun2#8758
so would this culture ever change


[07-May-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need to change the law in regards to publicly-traded companies.


[07-May-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Severely.


[07-May-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely, you'd need to actually shield quarterly results until the end of the year.


[07-May-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
While also making it clear companies owe nothing to investors besides some of the profited money.


[07-May-20 08:09 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:  ty


[07-May-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
you could change it in a generation or 2 if public schools weren't tied to property taxes, taking a Finnish model and making K-12 educator pay comencerate with lawyer or doctor pay at any school would change things


[07-May-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
but companies don't directly benefit from investment in public works


[07-May-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
they do but it doesn't show up on a balance sheet so it doesn't matter


[07-May-20 08:23 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I found out my mom's gone full retard about how basic rates are calculated


[07-May-20 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
she says that you don't divide the number of deaths by the total number of confirmed cases, you have to divide the number of deaths by the number of recovered cases


[07-May-20 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
(for coronavirus)


[07-May-20 08:24 AM] Midknight#9798
a lot of people are going full retard lately. i think they have too much time on their hands, start trying to think, and burn out synapses.


[07-May-20 08:24 AM] Midknight#9798
*~snuffs a sparking synapse~* >_> you saw nothing


[07-May-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
apparently she bought into the studies that say that the actual death rate is way lower than the confirmed death rate because way more people have antibodies than have been tested officially, even though two of the three studies conducted have been called into question


[07-May-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
the ironic part is that I'm pretty sure those studies she's putting up on a pedestal use modeling to come to their conclusions, she's a staunch denier of the use of modeling for scientific studies


[07-May-20 08:25 AM] Midknight#9798
*~ponders that spike in pneumonia and cardiac arrest deaths, too~*


[07-May-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
it's basically that she doesn't care if a study uses modeling or not if it comes to a conclusion that matches her opinion


[07-May-20 08:26 AM] Midknight#9798
cherry picking things that satisfy your confirmation bias, yup


[07-May-20 08:27 AM] jlun2#8758
> a lot of people are going full retard lately. i think they have too much time on their hands, start trying to think, and burn out synapses.
that sounds really hot :glowing_eyes:


[07-May-20 08:27 AM] Midknight#9798

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[07-May-20 09:28 AM] ononim#8141
I am not so sure about making sylveons our new ruling class


[07-May-20 09:28 AM] ononim#8141
granted, it probably will be better than current situation, but that's not a very high bar


[07-May-20 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
sylveons seem like they would be massive trolls personality-wise


[07-May-20 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's coming apart at the seams again, https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/05/trump-george-conway-coronavirus/


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[07-May-20 10:02 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon isn't he always?


[07-May-20 10:02 AM] byte[]#2610
It's just another shitter twitter storm


[07-May-20 10:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Had been tempered since he quit the briefings


[07-May-20 10:04 AM] byte[]#2610
No, just less visible


[07-May-20 10:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole Kellyanne situation must be interesting


[07-May-20 10:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of his most trusted (publicly) advisors, her husband keeps taunting and insulting him


[07-May-20 10:07 AM] byte[]#2610
The GOP is done for after this presidency


[07-May-20 10:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Either it will be absorbed into the monarchy once the constitution is dissolved and Trump declares himself king, or if that doesn't happen (he dies first, etc.) it will fracture into "Republicans" and "Trump sycophants"


[07-May-20 10:09 AM] Midknight#9798
While that would be nice, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.


[07-May-20 10:09 AM] byte[]#2610
The fault lines are already showing


[07-May-20 10:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't think the GOP would survive Trump getting elected at all


[07-May-20 10:10 AM] byte[]#2610
You can see it going off the rails everywhere


[07-May-20 10:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So yeah, predictions based on any sort of logic don't work that well for politics


[07-May-20 10:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm going off what I have observed so far


[07-May-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
GOP governors that defied Trump are more popular.


[07-May-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a very, very bad sign for Trump.


[07-May-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/mcdonalds-employees-shot-coronavirus/index.html

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[07-May-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
in america, it's your god-given right to shoot people that slightly inconvenience you


[07-May-20 12:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
My relatives refuse to wear masks too, saying they are "tired of it"


[07-May-20 12:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:faceclaw:


[07-May-20 12:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Follow up question: "Are you tired to live?" If they speak Russian, this question is very threatening.


[07-May-20 12:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nah, they just start bringing up various bullshit doctors


[07-May-20 12:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:faceclaw:


[07-May-20 01:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The customer is always right 🔫


[07-May-20 02:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[07-May-20 02:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Meme or politics? Why not both?


[07-May-20 02:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The reading order on that messed me up


[07-May-20 02:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Must be compilation


[07-May-20 02:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[07-May-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-May-20 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/may/07/finnish-basic-income-pilot-improved-wellbeing-study-finds-coronavirus

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Finnish basic income pilot improved wellbeing, study finds
First major study of scheme comes as economic toll of coronavirus prompts fresh interest in idea
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[07-May-20 06:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
whoda thunk not having to worry about how to pay rent or food would lead to improved wellbeing


[07-May-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/NoContextPrager/status/1258168704443068423?s=20

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[07-May-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Yuri


[07-May-20 06:36 PM] Cloudy#3004
as feminists go up, so does global warming


[07-May-20 06:36 PM] Cloudy#3004
to save pur planet we must remove feminism


[07-May-20 06:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/07/politics/trump-valet-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html

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One of Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus
A member of the US Navy who serves as one of President Donald Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus, CNN learned Thursday, raising concerns about the President's possible exposure to the virus.
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[07-May-20 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So close


[07-May-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/mcdonalds-employees-shot-coronavirus/index.html
@Teaspoon  see this is why I have reasons to hate my country

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Two McDonald's employees in Oklahoma City were shot Wednesday after they told two customers to leave the store's dining area, police said.
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[07-May-20 07:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Now in other news, https://twitter.com/equipotrump/status/1258417591984537601?s=21

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[07-May-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/us/politics/trump-vetoes-iran-war-powers.html

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The president said the resolution was an “insulting” move to limit his powers as commander in chief.
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[07-May-20 07:59 PM] jlun2#8758
oh hey, the Iran conflict is still a thing he remembers


[07-May-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/07/texas-gov-greg-abbott-jailing-salon-owner-shelley-luther-too-far/3087849001/

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Texas governor, state court call for release of jailed salon owner ...
Shelley Luther was sentenced to a week in jail after violating an order to close her salon. The Texas Supreme Court ordered Thursday for her release.
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[07-May-20 08:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/06/biden-reade-allegations-241451

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Despite Biden’s vehement denials, some progressive candidates — mostly millennials — are siding with his accuser.
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[07-May-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2020/05/07/she-said-anthony-fauci-sexually-assaulted-her-now-she-says-jacob-wohl-and-jack-burkman-paid-her-to-lie/

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She Said Anthony Fauci Sexually Assaulted Her. Now She Says Jacob W...
After failing to frame Robert Mueller, Elizabeth Warren, and others for sexual misconduct, the infamous Trumpster hoaxers tried to go after Fauci. But the woman they hired to play the victim had second thoughts.
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[07-May-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[07-May-20 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[07-May-20 08:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh god


[07-May-20 08:23 PM] illumnious#7938
Confusing of the highest order


[07-May-20 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-May-20 08:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Accurate


[07-May-20 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pull protester pin, discredit. Pull acid pin and spike pin, acid melts spikes. Use pins as makeshift ladder. While this is going on, pull lava pin. Trump will think Biden died and thus go gloat, allowing Biden time to climb up.


[07-May-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
STOP PLAYING SHITTY MOBILE GAMES


[07-May-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
reeee


[07-May-20 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're just jealous the DNC is beating down my door.


[07-May-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
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[07-May-20 08:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Retconing history to own the libs in a tweet


[07-May-20 08:57 PM] Honahue#0656
this is what happens when you never read a history book out side of high school


[07-May-20 08:58 PM] Honahue#0656
or talk to anyone who isn't a white suburbanite


[07-May-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, internment camps were taught about in my public high school education


[07-May-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
so was slavery/slave catchers


[07-May-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
and the trail of tears


[07-May-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
the only thing that wasn't in my high school history that is listed is private prisons, and that's because those are relatively modern


[07-May-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
I just crammed history then completely forgot about it after tests


[07-May-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I *distinctly* remember about being taught about the trail of tears and also the japanese internment camps is that they just sorta...happened. Like, oh well, guess those people gotta deal with it, so let's study how they did (the correct answer is they didn't, good job, 10 points)


[07-May-20 09:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe we were taught in greater detail how Andrew Jackson won a bunch of duels than how he was involved in the trail of tears


[07-May-20 09:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And we were definitely taught *nothing* about how wealthy american farmers were the biggest lobbyists for the japanese internment camps and why that was


[07-May-20 09:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
heck, for that matter, I don't even remember being taught that Johnson was impeached or even what he did as president


[07-May-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember being taught that he undid a lot of what Lincoln did and it made Radical Republicans mad


[07-May-20 09:34 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah it was touched on so briefly in school it's not unusual for people to just dump it after the test


[07-May-20 09:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> Radical Republicans
which type of republicans?


[07-May-20 09:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is the era in which Republicans were basically liberal and Democrats were all the southern dixie sympathizers


[07-May-20 09:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(there was a fair bit more intermingling as far as political spectrums are concerned, but modern Republicans really like trying to claim lineage from Lincoln when pretty much the oppsite is true thanks to the southern strategy)


[07-May-20 09:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[07-May-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"at least three"


[07-May-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess it's better to be safe than sorry?


[07-May-20 10:00 PM] Opponent#3498
they weren't big on counting.


[07-May-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in factual accuracy in reporting, that is


[07-May-20 10:18 PM] illumnious#7938
What???????????? https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1258490757448634376?s=21

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President Trump: "Melania, thank you very much on the second anniversary of the #BeBest Initiative. You've done a fantastic job and everybody appreciates it." https://t.co/GhnQNFdBPh
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[07-May-20 10:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you can carry a rifle in michigan?


[07-May-20 10:22 PM] illumnious#7938
What is this Be Best shit


[07-May-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That was Melania's campaign to stop online bullying


[07-May-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That everyone bullied her for sounding retarded and being ironic as shit given Trump won't stop insulting people over twitter

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[07-May-20 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And nobody heard about since


[07-May-20 10:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Dammm


[07-May-20 10:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Thanks


[07-May-20 10:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of pity her right now.


[07-May-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't


[07-May-20 10:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She's had infinite opportunities to say something


[07-May-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trail of Tears and other shit Jefferson pulled tends to get overshadowed by Louisiana Purchase and Lewis & Clark in teaching here.


[07-May-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But she's no more a person than a mannequin


[07-May-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
wasn't Trail of Tears Jackson


[07-May-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, it was


[07-May-20 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act

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Indian Removal Act
The Indian Removal Act was signed into law on May 28, 1830, by United States President Andrew Jackson. The law authorized the president to negotiate with southern Native American tribes for their removal to federal territory west of the Mississippi River in exchange for white ...
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[07-May-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, yeah.


[07-May-20 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Jefferson was the one who raped his black slave


[07-May-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
American history up to WW1 is basically "Washington chopped down a cherry tree and then beat up the redcoats with some buds and then we won WW1 on our own"


[07-May-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, history class here tends to go American Revolution, War of 1812, then Lewis & Clark, then how we fukked over the natives (but very broad strokes), then civil war, then world war I, then great depression, then World War II, then 50s, then Vietnam, done.


[07-May-20 10:28 PM] byte[]#2610
it's so blatantly propagandized


[07-May-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
and part of the reason for this is actually Texas


[07-May-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even the civil war is glossed over by just talking about a few battles on a technical level


[07-May-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
since they have all the textbook manufacturers


[07-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lewis & Clark gets a big focus because they were like the first white people in Montana


[07-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Brits made it to Washington, and others had made it to the edges of the Dakotas, but Montana is in this spot that was pretty much unknown in the early 19th century.


[07-May-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean sure, but they were also the hired scouts by Jefferson


[07-May-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
so


[07-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to try to preemptively make you not care the land belonged to natives before they talk about the massive amount of genocide that followed the expedition.


[07-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
By hyping up these two white guys who brought along an indian woman to tell them where to go to find all the good rivers.


[07-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Underage indian rape slave, that is.


[07-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who was won in a bet by the French guy they met.


[07-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And whose name we still mispronounce.


[07-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Murrika.


[07-May-20 10:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Arkansas Kansas


[07-May-20 10:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, funny story


[07-May-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The state name "Idaho" is literally gibberish


[07-May-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
every state name is gibberish if you look at it differently


[07-May-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
words are meaningless if you don't give them any meaning


[07-May-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A 19th century lobbyist for its creation claimed it was a local Cheyenne word for "golden mountain" or something, but the Cheyenne later denied ever having such a word as "Idaho" in their vocabulary


[07-May-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
One more reason to say Montana is better than Idaho.


[07-May-20 10:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the state practically got its name from a sort of prank lmao


[07-May-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Montana was named for "Montana Relucientes", shining mountains in Spanish, cause snowcapped treeless peaks all over the western part)


[07-May-20 10:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that's cool


[07-May-20 10:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man i wonder if things would've been better if the Spanish had kept Louisiana and blocked Murican expansion westward


[07-May-20 10:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The far west could've been a lot more Bolivia like


[07-May-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Spanish? It belonged to the French before America.


[07-May-20 10:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Actually, all three


[07-May-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Spain could not hav kept such distant lands.


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
First France, then Spain after 1763, then France again in 1798, then Murica in 1803


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They could've kept the carribbean and maybe Florida, but they had a problem of overexpansion.


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not with everyone else constantly attacking them, no


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually everything fell apart.


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the name of the game in colonialism.


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
atlantic wars were a fuckpit


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Shoot your neighbors and steal their land with ships that can carry off the goods.


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every other year countries would switch sides to dunk on whoever seemed to be winning


[07-May-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just do it far away where the goods are.


[07-May-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind the bs going on back in the continent


[07-May-20 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically the Spanish Empire collapsed into rebellion because Napoleon capturing the continental Spanish royal family hostage and installing his own drunk brother as king fucked up the imperial administration in wild ways


[07-May-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but also he managed to lose to Haiti.


[07-May-20 10:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Without Nappy invading Spain, it's likely the empire would've survived somewhat, even though it'd still have to decentralize


[07-May-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping control of far-off places can be hard.


[07-May-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If a rebellion crops up somewhere that's a 3 month voyage away, good fukking lukk putting it down.


[07-May-20 10:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's ultimately not really surprising that most of the Americas with any sizable amount of farmable land became independent.


[07-May-20 11:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/ahmaud-arbery-killing-georgia.html

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Mr. Arbery, 25, was killed after two men pursued him in a South Georgia neighborhood, a confrontation that was caught on video. A prosecutor said charges should be considered in the case.
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[07-May-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[07-May-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
or they would just terminate their customers' memberships


[07-May-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
your actions have consequences and costco is not afraid to ban you from ever entering their store again


[08-May-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://northeast.newschannelnebraska.com/story/42102669/state-no-longer-allowed-to-track-processing-plant-data

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State no longer allowed to track processing plant data
Local health officials will no longer be able to report COVID-19 data from meat processing plants.
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[08-May-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/michael-flynn-criminal-case-dropped-by-justice-department.html

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Justice Department drops criminal case against former Trump aide Mi...
The Justice Department dropped its criminal case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn, who admitted to lying to FBI agents about his conversation with a Russian diplomat.
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[08-May-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/496703-tara-reade-offers-to-testify-under-oath-and-take-polygraph-test-if-biden

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Tara Reade offers to testify under oath and take polygraph test if ...
Tara Reade, the former Senate staffer who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault, offered to testify under oath and take a polygraph test so
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[08-May-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Tara Reade agrees to flip coin and base truth of allegation upon it"


[08-May-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Polygraphs are pseudoscience.


[08-May-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody uses polygraphs as evidence


[08-May-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah lol


[08-May-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
It's stunning how many people don't realize that "lie detector" machines are totally bogus


[08-May-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, they detect rections, and all liars always react when they lie. No chance that people could rehearse their lies or just be naturally calm when spinning bs, that'd be crazy


[08-May-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
:bot:


[08-May-20 12:36 AM] illumnious#7938
Any COVID-19 beefing today?


[08-May-20 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what, you mean like the link posted 10 minutes before you asked?


[08-May-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think he meant briefing


[08-May-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And afaik no


[08-May-20 12:55 AM] illumnious#7938
> I think he meant briefing
@Teaspoon  I’m a she


[08-May-20 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
beefing is closer to what was going on there.


[08-May-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
the US has run out of beef


[08-May-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/heres-why-meat-shortages-are-likely-to-last-during-the-pandemic.html

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The meat supply chain is broken. Here's why shortages are likely to...
Challenges with the country's meat supply chain will likely linger as long as the coronavirus pandemic does causing periodic shortages.
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[08-May-20 01:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am waiting for a shortage of rottiserie chicken which will certainly affect my job.


[08-May-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a chicken shortage would be bad for my diet, it;s one of the only meats i even eat anymore


[08-May-20 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone on the internet is Steve Urkel until proven otherwise


[08-May-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Try turkey, I find it tastier than chicken, and better texture


[08-May-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is also the same price or cheaper, here in Germany at least


[08-May-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
2x more expensive here though :<


[08-May-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
turkey's great, can confirm.


[08-May-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
damn


[08-May-20 01:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
If meat ran out I would not care because I can and have switched to vegetarian and vegan diets on a dime. For several weeks all I've ever eaten was fruit.


[08-May-20 01:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
At least for lunch


[08-May-20 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd be mad if I ran out of eggs though because the egg has become central to my breakfast.


[08-May-20 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
But I'm sure I could switch back to Öats


[08-May-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have beans, peppers, rice, potatoes, tomatoes, don't need much else


[08-May-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But meat is nice


[08-May-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
https://tenor.com/view/legosi-beastars-anime-eat-chew-gif-15720524

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[08-May-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Aaron at breakfast


[08-May-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And onions and garlic ofc


[08-May-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
my parents are pretty insistent on meat at every meal


[08-May-20 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue P much


[08-May-20 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
I still have some toppings for some Argentine styled eggs. I should make those tomorrow.


[08-May-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or rather I make one because I have enough for that much


[08-May-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
These being a sunny style up egg on English muffin and with a pepper-onion mix, olive oil and vinegar included


[08-May-20 01:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
I should probably jump an ocean in my breakfast adventures because I am getting to the point in my South American ones everything is basically baked corn-dumplings or so small scale they won't get me through a morning (like a bit of toast and coffee is half the breakfast of South America, lunch is the real party).


[08-May-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Excuse me


[08-May-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkye4m/trumps-doj-is-dropping-the-charges-against-michael-flynn-even-though-he-already-plead-guilty

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The move follows a months-long campaign by Flynn and his new legal team to undo his original guilty plea, which he personally confirmed two more times in court.
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[08-May-20 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Huh


[08-May-20 02:41 AM] Midknight#9798
lie detectors are just modern astrology 🙂


[08-May-20 02:41 AM] Honahue#0656
also invented by they guy behind Wonder Woman


[08-May-20 02:41 AM] Honahue#0656
but yeah they garbage


[08-May-20 02:42 AM] Honahue#0656
probs where her lasso of truth came from


[08-May-20 02:42 AM] Midknight#9798
kind of like the DOJ these days


[08-May-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lie detectors are detective and talk show magic tricks


[08-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You might as well flip a coin


[08-May-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you are the mother!


[08-May-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.gonintendo.com/stories/360696-u-s-house-of-reps-member-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-playing-ani

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U.S. House of Reps member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is playing Anima...
U.S. House of Reps member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is playing Animal Crossing: New Horizons, and she's looking to visit islands
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[08-May-20 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
oh my god


[08-May-20 05:03 AM] byte[]#2610
_who cares_


[08-May-20 05:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, that's a Nintendo gaming news site


[08-May-20 05:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not CNN or MSNBC or something in the likes of that


[08-May-20 05:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So... eh


[08-May-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cue "so this is what liberal DC seatwarmers do instead of working for their tax-payed wages, huh?"


[08-May-20 05:14 AM] Honahue#0656
better AC than ordering 100 new Abrams to sit in an Arizona desert cause it keeps people in their district employed


[08-May-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah yes, the american procurement system


[08-May-20 05:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whereby everything made for the government _has_ to be built in 10 different states for no reason than to bloat the cost and time and ensure random states get to keep a factory running


[08-May-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
let me improve that for you


[08-May-20 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Cupcakes?"

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[08-May-20 05:24 AM] Cloudy#3004
remove


[08-May-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I lost the file

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[08-May-20 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:trixdisgust:


[08-May-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This makes me feel physically, mentally, and emotionally ill


[08-May-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thanks


[08-May-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It will eventually get to him too and he'll love it I bet


[08-May-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
stone:loss:


[08-May-20 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-May-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man I haven't laughed that hard in a long time


[08-May-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
thank you


[08-May-20 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
who knew in January this would accurately predict corona and quarentine

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[08-May-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next time just use superglue, much less painful


[08-May-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I've gone outside 5 times in the last 60 days


[08-May-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, 6, had to take out plastics last week


[08-May-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
monkeys, typewriters, etc.


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[08-May-20 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
snope also got into the propaganda business


[08-May-20 07:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/07/mike-mccaul-stock-in-chinese-company-243602

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Top GOP lawmaker disclosed holdings in Chinese company he criticized
Rep. Mike McCaul was tapped on to head a GOP House panel scrutinizing China. Disclosures show his family holds stock in a Chinese internet company.
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[08-May-20 08:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boy, we really should just start treating GOP criticism of something as probable cause for investigating them of doing exactly that


[08-May-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Today in history, fifty years ago


[08-May-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot

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Hard Hat Riot
The Hard Hat Riot occurred on May 8, 1970, in New York City. It started around noon when about 200 construction workers were mobilized by the New York State AFL-CIO to attack some 1,000 college and high school students and others who were protesting the Vietnam War, the April ...
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[08-May-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
May 1970 was not a good time.


[08-May-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally, Nixon was like "yeah peace all the way, that's why we're invading Cambodia!"


[08-May-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are scum.


[08-May-20 09:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the worst that could have happened if we just did nothing in Vietnam


[08-May-20 09:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But kept up the "fuck you Moscow, Mao is my best friend" thing


[08-May-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest problem is the soviets would've had resources free to do something else.


[08-May-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't they already do that?


[08-May-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't they fuck it up several times?


[08-May-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it would be to a greater extent.


[08-May-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd probably go after Afghanistan earlier.


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So just give the Muhajadeen weapons earlier


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would've been the same disaster Vietnam was.


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav to completely change US culture at the time to prevent something like that.


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looking back at it man, people really, really, really hated hippies


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Boomers did.


[08-May-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a lot. It was the drugs and sex mostly


[08-May-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers were the hippies though


[08-May-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers were like, one quarter hippies, three quarters MY DADDY DIDN'T GIV ME MONEY TO SEE YOU LOT WASTE IT ON DRUGS!


[08-May-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The boomers that hated hippies became yuppies


[08-May-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[08-May-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silents actually somewhat cared about things like honesty and following the law.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were appalled when Nixon turned out to be a liar.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers *weren't*.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are a broken generation.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Everyone I know voted for McGovern"


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They outnumbered their parents.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They grew up in massive prosperity.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They never had anyone to tell them no.


[08-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except each other.


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers are weird because despite the time they grew up in it feels like it didn't impact them at all


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course it didn't


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they had all the money


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
they outnumbered


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
were you listening?


[08-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generations fight by their numbers and resources.


[08-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers were massive.


[08-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They still are.


[08-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Birth rates shoot thru the roof in 1945 and crash in 1970.


[08-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers dictated everything besides the very very overall stuff like the Southern Strategy.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which they then decided was totes okay.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
1970s in general seemed enough to make an entire generation depressed, then the 80s were a massive countereaction


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Boomers had gotten into voting a little sooner, Nixon wouldn't've resigned.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 70s weren't bad.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
People had SHITTONS of spending money.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stagflation?


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The civil rights clashes mostly stopped.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oil crisis?


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people were doing drugs like crazy.


[08-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, those were small.


[08-May-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to recognize that the 70s as a 10 year period was parties all the damn time.


[08-May-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could skip work and smoke pot with your buddies.


[08-May-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or beat up Cornpop


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was in 1962


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 80s was just that getting more extreme as fewer problems happened.


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
70s and 80s yeah, I remember reading that like


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers never had a bad year.


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cocaine was just a common thing in board rooms


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might've had a few bad 6 month periods, but that's it.


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just everyone at the top did it


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers never saw unemployment go crazy.


[08-May-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It explains a lot.


[08-May-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
People need people to tell them no and they need to see how bad things can get.


[08-May-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers are an entire generation that has never seen anything truly be out of reach.


[08-May-20 09:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They had that minor crash in 1987


[08-May-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
By 1987, Boomers were on their second homes.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The minor crash only fukked over early Millennials.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials btw hav been getting fukked routinely every 10 years.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...who would have been 7 or so?


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
7 is a really important time in your life.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bad time for your parents to be low on resources.


[08-May-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buying their first house in like the mid to late 00s?


[08-May-20 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh


[08-May-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Late 00s is the great recession


[08-May-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now here we are in something even worse.


[08-May-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will be very surprising if Millennials don't like, at some point put in place a law that just takes away all estates.


[08-May-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hard to believe how bad it is and how worse it will get


[08-May-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I'd consider Millennials to start at 85


[08-May-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think that will happen though


[08-May-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they'd only be 2 during that crash. Also a pretty critical time tho.


[08-May-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Millennial is 80 to 95 I thought


[08-May-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically any time between years 1 and 10 you need a lot of resources to not become dumb as fukk or get screwed with a mental problem.


[08-May-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Including '80 would include people that turned 20 in 2000


[08-May-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would also squeeze Gen X's definition hard


[08-May-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X starts at '65


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always think of it more as what your childhood and early teenage years are like than your birth year that determines your generation


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just a fukking offset.


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to define what a Boomer is.


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
the normal way is '45-65


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It follows that Gen X is '65-85


[08-May-20 09:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah an offset but that makes more sense


[08-May-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Millennial is '85-05


[08-May-20 09:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought Gen Z would be older than 15 by now


[08-May-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomers are the whiny kids in Minecraft.


[08-May-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways if you don't do 20 years consistently, you could cut Millennials as '80-00


[08-May-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then you get '65-80 for Gen X which is just silly.


[08-May-20 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it fits with being a forgotten generation


[08-May-20 09:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Born in a weird time and never had political relevance


[08-May-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X thinks Dee Snider telling off Al Gore was the greatest thing to happen in politics ever.


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho Al Gore got a big fat stupid label put on album covers that doesn't even tell you wtf the problem is.


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was his wife's crusade tho


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They literally think a victory is sounding good as you stikk it to the moral guardians and walking away.


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He just kinda ran with it


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter.


[08-May-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X believes they won when they lost.


[08-May-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can see the effects of this all over media now.


[08-May-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only reason that censorship is waning is that the MPAA has gotten so bean-counting that at this point I think all you need to turn most PG-13 movies into PG is to use more CGI animals.


[08-May-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But over in TV, most kids shows literally aren't allowed to say a character who died died.


[08-May-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers hav made sure that precious little Jimmy won't know the horrors of the world as he watches a cartoon where the bad guys get horrifically murdered by magic but nobody takes 2 seconds to admit it.


[08-May-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, two girls get married but since nobody said anything it doesn't count.


[08-May-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Gen X thinks this is all fine because the gov't isn't literally confiscating their stuff.


[08-May-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also because now they're watching Netflix and CHARACTERS SMOKE AND IT'S LIKE THE 80s OMG OMG NIIIIICE


[08-May-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously I've met a guy who likes Stranger Things *because it takes place in the 80s*.


[08-May-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because it's good.


[08-May-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because of the characters.


[08-May-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just...nostalgia.


[08-May-20 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's powerful.


[08-May-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
People just want to pretend the 90s didn't happen.


[08-May-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That it's still 1989 and it's the cold war and PG-13 movies are a new thing and the economy's fine.


[08-May-20 09:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also funny, I know relatives that went to high school in the 1980s, during spirit week they had 50s days


[08-May-20 09:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My high school never had 50s days


[08-May-20 09:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We had 80s days.


[08-May-20 09:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Back to the Future was right


[08-May-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Back to the Future did everything correct except flying cars and cold fusion.


[08-May-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, our clothes don't auto-dry, lawyers still exist, yadda yadda but like


[08-May-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were pretty spot-on about culture and how it relates to technology.


[08-May-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
New hologram tech? Used for shitty movie sequels.


[08-May-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big news of the day? Sports team that used to sukk won.


[08-May-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your entire home is smart? Yeah but you use it to greet you and get fired over Skype.


[08-May-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a takky bar that makes you feel at home? 80s themed.


[08-May-20 09:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And in 2015 a video game where you had to use your hands could seem dated


[08-May-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think they got that one bakkwards actually.


[08-May-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've made more sense if the kids didn't like the limited stuff you could do.


[08-May-20 09:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No it's extra good because Wild Gunman never existed as a stand alone cabinet, it was a prop made for the movie. So it's a great example of fake nostalgia


[08-May-20 09:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus that yeah


[08-May-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, something where you don't use hands at all wouldn't make much sense short of just plain having games in the mind only like Demolition Man's sex helmets.


[08-May-20 09:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinect.


[08-May-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You still use your hands.


[08-May-20 09:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not to hold something I guess?


[08-May-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what I'm getting at.


[08-May-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The kids should've been like "all you get is a gun? lame."


[08-May-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and to harp on the MPAA thing, I strongly suspect you could just do Temple of Doom but with cartoon animals and less blood etc. and it'd get PG now.


[08-May-20 09:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know why but this is reminding me of Josh Haber complaining Scooby Doo has no butthole in the new movie and I'm like what


[08-May-20 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind that canonically at least prior to this movie, Scooby is an alien.


[08-May-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
All PG-13 really says is "it's live action so we can say the F bomb, drop in a sex scene somewhere, and use actual guns instead of weird lasers"


[08-May-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did Scooby hav a butthole in previous movies?


[08-May-20 09:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never.


[08-May-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except the live action ones where he was a realistic Great Dane.


[08-May-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then I don't get it either, it'd be stikking to the visual presentation of the series.


[08-May-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
I like my realism, but Scooby Doo has never been a series that makes things look entirely correct.


[08-May-20 09:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ratings boards are basically irrelevant, they only exist so the industries can go "Hey look we regulate ourselves, no need for government intervention here"


[08-May-20 09:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though considering the protections they get for creative expression inherently, it's not like it would be like Australia


[08-May-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The threat is that it would be Australia


[08-May-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives would come up with some excuse to get SCOTUS on board with stripping the first amendment bare.


[08-May-20 09:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scalia was on board with video games being art so


[08-May-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the point


[08-May-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They could come up with something about the harm to society etc. etc.


[08-May-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they could say that art can be censored.


[08-May-20 09:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obscenity yeah


[08-May-20 09:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I know it when I see it."


[08-May-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Between obscenity and the excuse used on CP, there's a pretty wide opportunity to just create outright censorship. It mainly hasn't been explored because obscenity is a really trikky thing to legislate.


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It being titillating is a bad judge of it being obscene


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the easy angle is to widen obscenity


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People can find a ham sandwich sexy.


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(rather than create a mirrored excuse to the one used for CP)


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally Republicans are the only ones wanting to prosecute on obscenity


[08-May-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if they go ham federally, states will raise a fuss, which would show the hypocrisy on states' rights to everyone


[08-May-20 10:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't CP just a flat ban, no artistic excuse allowed


[08-May-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so, actually


[08-May-20 10:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I swear if was just "no, depictions like this can never be artistically relevant ever"


[08-May-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US isn't like the UK, if you hav an artistic excuse for the naked kids, it's fine.


[08-May-20 10:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, it's the titillation


[08-May-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC SCOTUS set it to be mainly about perceived intent.


[08-May-20 10:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think, been a while since I looked at the standard


[08-May-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was some case of a guy who took pics of kids in bathing suits, no nudity etc. involved


[08-May-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS ruled it's CP because if you look at them as a pedo you could get aroused.


[08-May-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is an...odd choice as far as jurisprudence goes. Ultimately what they meant to say was that the guy was clearly a perv so the stuff he made must be treated accordingly.


[08-May-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, SCOTUS would probably be the ones to expand that to cover more things, not Congress.


[08-May-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's kind of hard for conservatives to craft a trap case to do that.


[08-May-20 10:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"appeals to the prurient interest"


[08-May-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's obscenity.


[08-May-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans would need to do to use obscenity to target films is to first weaken the artistic part of the Miller test.


[08-May-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again that's a problem, since SCOTUS made that.


[08-May-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And one more BDSM watersports DVD censorship could blow up in their faces because society changed a bit.


[08-May-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ginsburg would be like "I found 20 videos like this in 2 minutes of Google Searching, and you're telling me most Americans don't think this should ever exist? Google recommended better search options to find the last 10. Clearly people are interested in large numbers. The comments on the videos were fairly enthusiastic too."


[08-May-20 10:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ruth this is why you aren't invited to the holiday parties."


[08-May-20 10:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Shut up, Tom. She and Elena know how to party with their bro Brett."


[08-May-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
A big part of the video games being art thing was that some of the justices went and played games and were like "okay how is this *not* art? It's like a movie but it's got more to say"


[08-May-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that and Justice Kagan really, really loved Postal 2.


[08-May-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I'm sure Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would play ball if McConnell wanted to say that movies can't show shootings anymore and he opened up some accounts.


[08-May-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the conservative approach. Don't make the thing not happen, just don't let people actually examine it critically and say anything aside of "tragic and bad".


[08-May-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why Hatred got banned from Twitch despite being absolutely weaksauce.


[08-May-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
(essentially a marketing ploy that Twitch etc. fell for; same deal as how the PARENTAL ADVISORY on music albums always made them *sell more* rather than less)


[08-May-20 10:30 AM] byte[]#2610
> to craft a trap case to do that.


[08-May-20 10:30 AM] byte[]#2610
intentional wording?


[08-May-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traps aren't gay, but they are how you bypass legislative processes.


[08-May-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[08-May-20 02:10 PM] Cloudy#3004
🤔


[08-May-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he really really wants to say the N word


[08-May-20 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[08-May-20 02:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Which one are you talking about https://i.redd.it/7qgk86m52ex41.png

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[08-May-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a23230/hole-in-sheet-sex-0613/

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Do any cultures require something like it?
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[08-May-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
> With regard to other cultures, I can assume only that everything you've heard is true, but certainly the hole in the sheet is not true of the Jews. No one's quite sure how the rumor got started, especially since it actually violates Jewish law — the one about partners having no barriers during sex, and the one about not putting holes in the sheets. "There is no origin for it," says Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, author of Kosher Sex: A Recipe for Passion and Intimacy. "We are a religion that endorses lust," he says. "Judaism wants a man to devour every part of his wife's body. We want deep kissing, deep intimacy, orgasms. Judaism is the religion that profoundly celebrates the glory, passion, and deep, erotic lust of sex." I've been Jewish for a long time and I've never heard any of that, but if it's true I think we should change the brochure.

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[08-May-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[08-May-20 03:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Do all American politicians speak like Trump, or only few?


[08-May-20 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
trump's language is unique in how linguistically simple it is among US politicians


[08-May-20 03:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What he said is not like a politician at all


[08-May-20 03:11 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, he doesn't speak like a politician outside of prepared speeches


[08-May-20 03:11 PM] Crow#5457
because he's not actually a politician, he's a failed business owner who's trying to run the US like one of his failed companies


[08-May-20 03:12 PM] Crow#5457
and is succeeding to an extent


[08-May-20 03:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For me even he's prepared speeches sounds very... random


[08-May-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he talks like a business presenter trying to sell a product to other businesses


[08-May-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but doing a really bad unintelligible job of it


[08-May-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You should use our product, we have the best product for this situation. People even say we are the greatest they've ever seen"


[08-May-20 03:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If you can listen to Chinese, you'll find Xi's sentences is always full of "if", "only if", kinds of ambiguous or suggestive words, and unnecessarily use lots of poems, proverbs and references of ancient stories or myths...


[08-May-20 03:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sometimes I don't even know what the phrase or poem he said is about to mean


[08-May-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's speech patterns minus the many sentence cutoffs and half spoken thoughts, would probably fit well on an infomercial


[08-May-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-May-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being a landlord in New York


[08-May-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Don't have to actually maintain your units, renting a unit in New York (maybe City too) is like owning a home with all the stress and maintenance but it's not actually yours


[08-May-20 03:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html


[08-May-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
>You yourself probably rent, despite renting out some 400 units. You're not actually precarious: you can move into any empty unit at any time or kick someone out to move in.


[08-May-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
>Also this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55jtMMLJxk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55jtMMLJxk
Stupid City - Pencil Towers
In this second episode of the new architecture and urban planning series Stupid City, we explore the phenomenon of New York's ultra-thin luxury condominium towers and what they mean to the city around them.

I don't own any of the photos in the video. Music is by the Magnolia ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-55jtMMLJxk/maxresdefault.jpg


[08-May-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw you build affordable housing for bougie bastards who won't ever live in them for 2/3rds a year if never but once every other year


[08-May-20 03:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What wrong with this?:
>A company commissioned a HQ skyscraper.
>Build costs $100mil. (Not actual cost)
>When the  building was completed, it is leased to the commissioner at rate $10mil per month for next 25 years.


[08-May-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend

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[08-May-20 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Jesus is the Christ

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[08-May-20 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf that's not wrong, "Christ" is a title iirc


[08-May-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like Murican christians would know tho


[08-May-20 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one".[12] The word is derived from the Greek verb χρίω (chrī́ō), meaning "to anoint."[12] In the Greek Septuagint, christos was used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ, messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed".[13]


[08-May-20 05:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> a·noint
> /əˈnoint/
> verb
> smear or rub with oil, typically as part of a religious ceremony.


[08-May-20 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anoint me with your oil daddy


[08-May-20 05:55 PM] jlun2#8758
Where is "Trump is the Christ"
and why is that trending ?


[08-May-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
This is interesting

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[08-May-20 05:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump Depression: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/08/economy/april-jobs-report-2020-coronavirus/index.html#click=https://t.co/3AJXUPHEj3

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Record 20.5 million American jobs lost in April. Unemployment rate ...
With much of the American economy in self-imposed shutdown to prevent the spread of coronavirus, April's colossal surge in unemployment was a historic disaster for workers.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200507184637-restricted-02-1-april-jobs-report-2020-super-tease.jpg


[08-May-20 05:58 PM] jlun2#8758
but line go up so it's fine


[08-May-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@illumnious oh, cool, that means i'm Shrek right

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[08-May-20 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[08-May-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"You are the swamp"


[08-May-20 05:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Jesus is the Christ well, between Bible scripts and Trump


[08-May-20 05:59 PM] illumnious#7938
YOU ARE THE SWAMP: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo83194949762?__twitter_impression=true

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As of May 8, 2020, the coronavirus has claimed more than 76,000 lives in America despite the president insisting early on that he had it all under control. Morning Joe looks back at his claims.
https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/202005/n_mj_pkg_200508_1920x1080.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[08-May-20 06:03 PM] illumnious#7938
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Trump is the swamp


[08-May-20 06:03 PM] illumnious#7938
This draws my attention https://twitter.com/strandjunker/status/1258767533869543427?s=21

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Andrea Junker (@Strandjunker)
https://twitter.com/strandjunker/status/1258767533869543427?s=21
Take Richard Nixon, add pedophilia, add sexual assault, add rape, add nepotism, add despotism, add climate denial, add treason, add pandemic, add murder cover-ups, add genocide, add Twitter, add orange, add 315 lbs., subtract 113 IQ points, and you have Donald Trump today.
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[08-May-20 06:03 PM] illumnious#7938
And #ChineseVirus https://twitter.com/strivetowinnie/status/1258759277205913601?s=21

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Winnie (@strivetowinnie)
https://twitter.com/strivetowinnie/status/1258759277205913601?s=21
Why the fuck is #ChineseVirus trending again? I tell you I miss model minority days.
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[08-May-20 06:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Lastly, EVEN THE DEMOCRATS: https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1258771460182683648?s=21

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BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan)
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1258771460182683648?s=21
1.2 million COVID-19 cases
75,000 deaths
34M unemployed
And it was all AVOIDABLE.

"Even the Democrats aren't blaming me" for the #TrumpDepression.

You haven't been listening. We DO blame you, because you lied and denied until it was too late.

YOU OWN THIS FAILURE.
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[08-May-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-takes-away-anti-missile-systems-saudi-arabia-over-dispute-2020-5

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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-takes-away-anti-missile-systems-saudi-arabia-over-dispute-2020-5
US takes away anti-missile system that guarded oil facilities from ...
"This has nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. This has to do with other countries, frankly, much more," President Donald Trump said.
https://i.insider.com/5eb4d537578532345e32adf4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-May-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
In regards to how Trump talks, it's clearly meant to take advantage of short attention spans and to flood you with things to exploit emotion.


[08-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He talks the way speedrunners play games (at least as far as glitchless). Just constant movement and energy to try to get where he wants to, and brushing past mistakes.


[08-May-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The goal is to make it so you'll agree to pretty much anything he says rather than ponder and question it.


[08-May-20 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/08/top-colorado-republican-orders-official-to-report-false-election-results-in-leaked-audio/

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https://www.salon.com/2020/05/08/top-colorado-republican-orders-official-to-report-false-election-results-in-leaked-audio/
Colorado Republican orders official to report false results: audio
A "damning" recording allegedly shows a GOP congressman trying to pressure a local official into committing a crime
https://media.salon.com/2020/05/ken-buck-0507201.jpg


[08-May-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/708382784128942080/rif-1588962012303.jpg

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[08-May-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
oh no, politicians aren't working 24/7!!!


[08-May-20 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
I can't wait until there's a president who wins a smash tournament


[08-May-20 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd vote for a mad lad like that.


[08-May-20 08:36 PM] Honahue#0656
Sonic Fox 20... uh 34?


[08-May-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-kudlow-us-may-not-close-economy-during-second-covid-19-wave-2020-5

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Trump's top economic adviser says the US might not shut down its ec...
Kudlow said the US wouldn't need more lockdowns because "we have more experience" and "we are much better equipped with the right tools."
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[08-May-20 08:37 PM] Honahue#0656
he might be 35 in 2032


[08-May-20 08:41 PM] illumnious#7938
Wheeeeeez


[08-May-20 08:41 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[08-May-20 08:41 PM] illumnious#7938
Shhh


[08-May-20 08:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
I want to be the first gamer president. I want to force people like Boris Johnson to do important international diplomacy via Minecraft.


[08-May-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-learned-from-nixon-not-to-fire-people-tape-conversations-2020-5

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Trump says he 'learned a lot from Richard Nixon,' including not to ...
"Of course there was one difference, one big difference. Number one, he may have been guilty. And number two, he had tapes all over the place.
https://i.insider.com/5eb56132fc593d57e4269e3b?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-May-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
so basicly 'don't get caught' is all he's learned except he's dogshit at that too


[08-May-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[08-May-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I learned not to record my conversations and fire people" he said as he did both of those very things at the same time


[08-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
:squintyjack:


[08-May-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He then uses the fox news network as a "private confession booth" and then is shocked to find out everyone heard that confession and wont take the unspoken vow of silence to not talk about it

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[08-May-20 09:01 PM] Honahue#0656
I mean nothing bad happened to Nixon tho, sure he resigned but it's not like he moved into a trailor park and became a Wal Mart greeter


[08-May-20 09:01 PM] Honahue#0656
he still had millions, his memoirs were a best seller


[08-May-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unlike what movies like Frost vs Nixon may like us to think, no one is really punished in America if you are part of the political class. Unless you were someone like Lincoln, then punishment is extra-judicial


[08-May-20 09:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Poll reveals how Americans feel about coronavirus vaccine


[08-May-20 09:09 PM] Opponent#3498
there's a vaccine to have an opinion about?


[08-May-20 09:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's moving out of animal testing but I feel like given the virus has already underwent a mutation it will again by the time the vaccine finally comes out.


[08-May-20 09:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of Silicon Valley types are hedging their bets and being like gods with this vaccine though since I remember NPR interviews with them where they talk up how they are using a "brand new algorithmic approach" to making the vaccine


[08-May-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A Silicon Valley type running for president will be like Bloomberg but a million times worse


[08-May-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they won't skip early states


[08-May-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Zuck for pres


[08-May-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd probably pay people to skip work to vote.


[08-May-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
is that legal


[08-May-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
As long as you don't tell them who to vote for.


[08-May-20 09:44 PM] Honahue#0656
https://jacobinmag.com/2020/5/elon-musk-grimes-baby-population-democracy

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Elon Musk’s New Baby’s Name Is Actually Less Absurd Than His Anti-D...
Elon Musk drew attention recently for announcing the name of his and Grimes's new baby, X Æ A-12. But what’s more disturbing about Musk is the anti-democratic, quasi-eugenicist views that he and other tech elites espouse.
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[08-May-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m gonna pronnounce that zasha-12


[08-May-20 09:52 PM] jlun2#8758
so are they going to be space nazis


[08-May-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Zucc's platform is all about smokin' those meats


[08-May-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> Probably the most obscene of the rich eugenicists is the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, who dreamed of “seed[ing] the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch” — a project made possible by his great wealth and connections with the global elite.
:isee:


[08-May-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean that's ultimately what people like Musk want


[08-May-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
no self clone babies :sad:


[08-May-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
cause people like Musk think they got where they are because of innate abilities instead of realizing it was a matter of being born wealthy and not completely fucking that up


[08-May-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
so DK effect?


[08-May-20 10:12 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah


[08-May-20 10:13 PM] Honahue#0656
it's generally hard to fuck up being born wealthy, usually the worst that happens is you move laterally in that wealthy level.


[08-May-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
wait, you didn't mock this, you actually take this shit seriously?


[08-May-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
I guess maybe the ultra rich kids might get a downgrade from phenominally wealthy to merely wealthy


[08-May-20 10:14 PM] jlun2#8758
I wonder would that ever backfire on them, or nah unlimited capital


[08-May-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent the rich seems invincible and can almost do anything, so for me it's a real fear they go and make a dystopian world


[08-May-20 10:16 PM] Opponent#3498
this 'real fear' is about as real as 5g spreading communism and homosexuality.


[08-May-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
like if they somehow legally mandated their private microstate must have 2+2=5, they can bend reality to make it happen because money


[08-May-20 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, you don't become a billionaire without discarding all reasonable morality - and don't give me that "net worth isn't the same thing" because *there are people with billions in cash*


[08-May-20 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
of course you don't, but why would you need morality when you can secure cooperation by other means?


[08-May-20 10:17 PM] jlun2#8758
cooperate with other billionaries?


[08-May-20 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What I'm saying is that it's impossible to *become* that rich without compromising your ethics


[08-May-20 10:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Never mind how ethical or philanthropic or humanitarian you may be once you are in the 1%


[08-May-20 10:19 PM] jlun2#8758
don't need to worry about it if the human  brain is amazing at rationalizing compromising ethics


[08-May-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
@WingbeatPony well, yeah. There's a saying, noone ever talks about how they made their first capital. At least they never tell the truth.


[08-May-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
"i got it from my parents"


[08-May-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/708330255265300591/whitewomanextinction.png

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[08-May-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
press


[08-May-20 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
considering slavs also count as whites I'd be hesitant to do it :D


[08-May-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
just be gay


[08-May-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
fair, that's one option


[08-May-20 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_PfE9LwV_w

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penguinz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_PfE9LwV_w
Karen Apocalypse
This is the greatest anger of All Time
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[08-May-20 11:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder how different society would be if polearms were standard loadout for armed guards and riot police instead of guns


[08-May-20 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://sports.yahoo.com/new-title-ix-regulations-no-longer-require-coaches-to-report-sexual-misconduct-150637906.html

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New Title IX regulations no longer require coaches to report sexual...
The rules are part of a wide range of new regulations that change how colleges handle sexual assault reports.
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[08-May-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
> The U.S. Department of Education, led by education secretary Betsy DeVos, announced new Title IX federal regulations that change requirements on who must report sexual assault allegations and how institutions respond to those complaints.
> 
> The adjustments, outlined in a 2,033-page document and set to go into effect Aug. 14, no longer require coaches and other employees at colleges and universities to report allegations to the Title IX office. They also give schools a choice in what standard of proof they’d like to follow, bolster protections for the accused and require live hearings and cross examinations.


[08-May-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that trump's a rapist


[08-May-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
doubled edged sword


[08-May-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
mandatory reporting has irreparably fucked many people's lives forever


[08-May-20 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/496518-biden-says-hell-reverse-devos-rule-to-bolster-protections-for-those-accused

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Biden says he'll reverse DeVos rule bolstering protections for thos...
Former Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday that if he’s elected president, he will reverse a rule issued by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos aimed at bolstering protections for students who are accused of sexual assault on university
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_022720gn41_lead.jpg


[08-May-20 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
k


[08-May-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/12/us/texas-vs-california-history-textbooks.html

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Two States. Eight Textbooks. Two American Stories.
We analyzed some of the most popular social studies textbooks used in California and Texas. Here’s how political divides shape what students learn about the nation’s history.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/10/us/textbooks-comparison-video-promo/textbooks-comparison-video-promo-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg


[08-May-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
>  The textbooks cover the same sweeping story, from the brutality of slavery to the struggle for civil rights. The self-evident truths of the founding documents to the waves of immigration that reshaped the nation.
> 
> The books have the same publisher. They credit the same authors. But they are customized for students in different states, and their contents sometimes diverge in ways that reflect the nation’s deepest partisan divides.
> 
> Hundreds of differences — some subtle, others extensive — emerged in a New York Times analysis of eight commonly used American history textbooks in California and Texas, two of the nation’s largest markets.


[08-May-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ, is there anything that capitalism doesn't ruin?


[08-May-20 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
doesn't look like capitalism.


[08-May-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
merely a byproduct of fitting several countries under one flag to pool their resources together.


[08-May-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
different countries - different lies in history textbooks.


[08-May-20 11:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the textbook producers were paid to omit information, which is capitalism


[08-May-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
and if they weren't payed but were _ordered_ to do it, that'd be socialism.


[08-May-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
whatever it is though, that's not the core issue.


[08-May-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how would that be socialism?


[08-May-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


[08-May-20 11:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well there's no money involved. Do it or we fire you is capitalism. Do it or we brand you a traitor is socialism.


[08-May-20 11:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well, not capitalism or socialism. Capitalistic policy, and socialistic one.


[08-May-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no that would be facism


[08-May-20 11:51 PM] Opponent#3498
then fascism is socialism *shrug*


[08-May-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
socialism would be paying the text book producers a proper wage and giving thme a share of the company they work for


[08-May-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah


[08-May-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-too-much-coronavirus-testing-makes-us-look-bad-2020-5

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Trump says doing too much coronavirus testing makes the US 'look ba...
Trump, on more than one occasion, has signaled he cares more about optics than fully grasping the scale of the coronavirus outbreak in the US.
https://i.insider.com/5eb41edb5f726e62506004a3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[08-May-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and then letting them know they'd lose all of that and more if they decide to disobey.


[08-May-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's still not socialism


[08-May-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
how do you make someone obey under socialism then?


[08-May-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
socialism isnt about obedience, socialism is an economic model


[08-May-20 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
then so is capitalism. I don't see how it could 'ruin the truth'.


[08-May-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is the bribery


[08-May-20 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not bribery


[08-May-20 11:55 PM] Opponent#3498
it's likely official state contract.


[08-May-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
'we want the books to say so and so'.


[08-May-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
'it supports our cause'.


[08-May-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes and states do that by paying the to omit information through their contracts, if they didn't then the textbook manufacturers would just print the normal textbook and not give a single fuck what is or isn't in them. lobbyists also pay the states to add certain things to the contract such as omitting certain historical facts about them or their activities.


[09-May-20 12:00 AM] Opponent#3498
state contract, by default, cannot be bribery.


[09-May-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lobbying can


[09-May-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and is


[09-May-20 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
well yes. It boggles the mind that this is legal in US. But it is.


[09-May-20 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
and, having a legal definition, it cannot be called bribery.


[09-May-20 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
also, under socialism you could get largely the same results. The ideologues would give feedback to the government on what to print, which then would be enforced by it.


[09-May-20 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
economic model is tetriary here, if it ever comes up at all.


[09-May-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
:bot:


[09-May-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
there's plenty of things that can indeed be blamed on capitalism. Decaying interpersonal relationships. Climate change and excessive environmental damage. And so on.


[09-May-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
no need or reason to invent something else.


[09-May-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, it doesnt really matter at this point anyway, history textbooks are gonna be like this even if we werent using a capitalist economic model. It's just how the states are right now.


[09-May-20 12:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can blame capitalism all i want, it won't fix the terrible school system and it's awful history textbooks. Most of it is politicians or churches trying to cover up historical events for propagandized or religious reasons such as confederates losing the civil war or nixing evolution to teach creationism. and some of it is angry parental coalitions claiming that portion of history is too violent or such to teach to children.


[09-May-20 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/n4DX8_X_fck

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[09-May-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/496893-iranian-hackers-target-us-drug-company-involved-in-coronavirus-treatment

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[09-May-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
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[09-May-20 01:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Interview with a survivor of Epstein's abuse https://m.soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/maria-farmer

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Episode 67: Maria Farmer
In this Special Episode, we sit down with Maria Farmer, the first Epstein victim to go to the police, and discuss her experiences working as Jeffrey’s doorman and art procurer, her time at Leslie Wexn
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[09-May-20 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Almost done and I will warn anyone who hasn't listened to this: this is one of the most brutal TrueAnon episodes I've listened to. Validates a reign of terror.


[09-May-20 02:48 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.jpost.com/international/costco-face-covering-requirement-sparks-backlash-calls-to-boycott-627408

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Costco mask requirement sparks backlash
According to Costco, the only ones excluded from the policy are children under the age of two and those who are unable to wear a mask due to medical reasons.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/457134


[09-May-20 02:49 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
tl;dr people are retarded


[09-May-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically a bunch of bitches losing their costco membership


[09-May-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
people who never deserved a costco membership in the first place


[09-May-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```Validates a reign of terror.```


[09-May-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
as 20th century history shows, anything validates a reign of terror. So it's not as much of an achivement.


[09-May-20 02:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
also reigns of terror cause more damage and harm than good.


[09-May-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
screencap'd


[09-May-20 02:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what is?


[09-May-20 02:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
Seize the FBI, grab and leak all the info, no survivors


[09-May-20 03:04 AM] illumnious#7938
Today’s stonks

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[09-May-20 03:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nevada Copper Corp are you okay


[09-May-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
i'd say "no"


[09-May-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The c o p p e r hasn't kicked in yet, give it time


[09-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth happened in England


[09-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Over the last week they skyrocketed from 18k deaths to 31k


[09-May-20 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
the paperwork came through :D


[09-May-20 04:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
creme egg poisoning


[09-May-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pence's press secretary tested positive


[09-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, don't you remember the images?


[09-May-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
People lined up outside Aldi's etc., doing "social distancing" by moving very slowly like a thikk fluid thru a funnel.


[09-May-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has many of the same problematic attitudes as the US.


[09-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, my stepdad was GIVEN apparently a healthcare worker-grade mask after a colonoscopy.


[09-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He refused to wear it.


[09-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom has also refused to wear it.


[09-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's over 65 and she's over 50 now.


[09-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I'm left the only one in the family actually protecting myself on trips to get groceries.


[09-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking Boomers.


[09-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's weird is, my mom is totally fine with the idea that violating the lokkdown is retarded and that conservatives are crazy, but a mask? Suddenly it's just too much for her.


[09-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, TESCO https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1241747720433475584

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[09-May-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that in the US, in many states or cities, there were measures put in place to reduce maximum occupancy so that stores couldn't get pakked up.


[09-May-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think the UK bothered.


[09-May-20 04:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I see no amount of distance involved in that


[09-May-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
christ


[09-May-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remembered they fucked up closing the metro in London by just reducing the number of trains while not closing businesses


[09-May-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're not rubbing their hands and crotches on each other's butts and sneezing on each other's shoulders, that's the distancing, @Marukomuru


[09-May-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about a people who consider standing in line obediently with little to no deviation very close together a part of their cultural identity.


[09-May-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Eh, that isn't much of a thing anymore


[09-May-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but they also hav Boomers.


[09-May-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
UK birth rates peaked in the 50s.


[09-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've got basically all the same problems the US has, but it's even harder to move out.


[09-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, in the US, when you finally get free of living with mom and dad, you generally move the hell away and occasionally ask them for money.


[09-May-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the UK however, space is at more of a premium and so what ends up happening is you move *down the street* and keep half your stuff with mom and dad and their larger house.


[09-May-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consequently, a Millennial practicing social distancing is almost always going to be reliant on Boomer parents who don't understand they need to space out their queueing.


[09-May-20 04:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/CI9BAH8wg4

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UK to place all incoming travellers under 14-day quarantine: The Times
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson will announce on Sunday that all travellers coming to the United Kingdom will be quarantined for a fortnight, The Times reported
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[09-May-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, he really looks bad still.


[09-May-20 05:01 AM] illumnious#7938
oof


[09-May-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-lawyer.html

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Ahmaud Arbery Video Was Leaked by a Lawyer Who Consulted With Suspects
The lawyer, Alan Tucker, declined to comment on his conversations with the suspects, citing attorney-client privilege. He later said he would not be representing them.
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[09-May-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lawyer that turned down defending the suspects leaked the video
...but not because it showed them murdering the guy, but because he was annoyed by rumours that they were waving confederate flags


[09-May-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582

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[09-May-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> See, in the US, when you finally get free of living with mom and dad, you generally move the hell away and occasionally ask them for money.
> In the UK however, space is at more of a premium and so what ends up happening is you move down the street and keep half your stuff with mom and dad and their larger house.
how are you people so rich buying homes so young


[09-May-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
>buying


[09-May-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody buys a home in the UK.


[09-May-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is some setup where what was once a house for a whole nuclear family with like 4 kids and a grandma crammed in is now 2 or 3 renters and sharing.


[09-May-20 05:14 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://news.yahoo.com/secret-service-coronavirus-cases-white-house-concerns-221444492.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=fb

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Document reveals Secret Service has 11 current virus cases, as conc...
This report comes as a pair of cases among White House staffers close to Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have put the West Wing’s coronavirus security procedures in the spotlight.
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[09-May-20 05:17 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1258941962645901314

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JUST IN: Ivanka Trump's personal assistant has tested positive for coronavirus, a source says https://t.co/olW5HZtkZ5
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[09-May-20 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*someone* in the inner circle is spreading this around


[09-May-20 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
gotta admit, it's amazing that the pres and VP haven't gone boris johnson yet


[09-May-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ivanka's assistant has apparently been remote working for two months, so probably got it elsewhere


[09-May-20 05:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, UK home ownership is very low, most people rent apartments that used to be manors and got chopped up into 5 sections to rent out


[09-May-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-May-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
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WCGW if I threaten to shoot up a supermarket
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[09-May-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-May-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/08/congress-coronavirus-large-companies-small-business-loans-245136

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House coronavirus oversight panel demands large companies repay sma...
“Returning these funds will allow truly small businesses ... to obtain the emergency loans they need to avoid layoffs," they write.
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[09-May-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are mad that large businesses are being asked to repay loans meant only for small ones.


[09-May-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just another thing to add to the utter pile of hypocrisy that is their cesspit of a party.


[09-May-20 05:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> And yeah, UK home ownership is very low, most people rent apartments that used to be manors and got chopped up into 5 sections to rent out
@Teaspoon sounds like a thing back then after October revolution in Russia and so on into second part of 20th century in USSR.


[09-May-20 06:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCKVreNqMjI

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[09-May-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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We are at the Coronavirus crossroad in America
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[09-May-20 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
so what, all you need to do to get free shit is whine on social media? :D


[09-May-20 08:28 PM] jlun2#8758
The answer to everything is 🔫  ofc 🇺🇸


[09-May-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-May-20 08:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
hey those children and pets are a clear and present threat.


[09-May-20 08:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they need to be put down in the name of freedom


[09-May-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-May-20 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/madisongesiotto/status/1256566792568397824?s=21

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Gallup: Trump surges to approval high, best ever OK from independents 👍🏽🇺🇸
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[09-May-20 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat


[09-May-20 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat


[09-May-20 08:52 PM] illumnious#7938
WHAT THE FUCK????


[09-May-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval
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[09-May-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was one poll Gallup had that's largely being considered a fluke


[09-May-20 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/baraGodzilla/status/1258682943716782080

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im losing my mind. there is no way you're going to be able to predict what this ad is trying to sell you

finally, now more than ever, women can buy our product https://t.co/f68JCM7vvt
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[09-May-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
wtf


[09-May-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-May-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
||  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtug5an4L8Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtug5an4L8E ||

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Hasbro
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Ms. Monopoly Official - Monopoly
MEET MS. MONOPOLY! Hasbro, Inc. is introducing the first-ever game in the Monopoly franchise that celebrates women trailblazers. Ms. Monopoly gives new meaning to the franchise, as properties are replaced by groundbreaking inventions and innovations made possible by women thro...
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[09-May-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
full ad from above


[09-May-20 09:47 PM] illumnious#7938
no suprise https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trump-official-blew-off-american-manufacturer-of-n95-masks-as-pandemic-began-spread-in-us-report/

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On Saturday, The Washington Post reported that Michael Bowen, a manufacturer in Fort Worth, Texas, offered to produce millions of N95 masks for the federal government in January — but a key official expressed little interest in the proposal. “Bowen’s medical supply company, Pr...
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[09-May-20 11:32 PM] Marukomuru#8409
@Teaspoon This one is pretty great too https://twitter.com/LizardRumsfeld/status/1258810493915074561

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Dope Tugging Knobs for Biden (@LizardRumsfeld)
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@baraGodzilla https://t.co/96LQUStcj4
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[10-May-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[10-May-20 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
his *incredulity*


[10-May-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-May-20 12:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is cinnamon. Technically spicy, but so tame and commonplace that everyone's used to it


[10-May-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
wtf is that commercial lol


[10-May-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even cop, just armed white man in a pickup


[10-May-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259162367285317633

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Elon Musk (@elonmusk)
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@GerberKawasaki @thirdrowtesla Frankly, this is the final straw. Tesla will now move its HQ and future programs to Texas/Nevada immediately. If we even retain Fremont manufacturing activity at all, it will be dependen on how Tesla is treated in the future. Tesla is the last c...
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[10-May-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it weren't because he's ineligible I'd think he's trying to prepare a run for 2024 GOP candidacy


[10-May-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again, most americans probably think he's american


[10-May-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
Because he's white, yes


[10-May-20 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
"What do you mean he's african"


[10-May-20 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/05/09/white-house-push-airport-fever-screenings-overrules-cdc-scientists/3097158001/

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CDC scientists overruled in White House push to restart airport fev...
Airport temperature screenings mark latest discord between Trump administration and CDC over federal coronavirus response and science of public health
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[10-May-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-May-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
guess who pence's secretary who tested positive for coronavirus is


[10-May-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
heh


[10-May-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/iamkumbaya/status/1259243056047497216

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@thirdrowtesla @greg_travis @elonmusk @GerberKawasaki I definitely wanted the first car I purchased to be a Tesla. I will just get another EV that doesnt have their CEO trying to influence politics so heavily at the expense of people. Tesla's whole environmental angle is look...
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[10-May-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Tesla's whole environmental angle is looking like a complete farce right now. People come first.


[10-May-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
musk moving tesla to texas would be a terrible idea for the company


[10-May-20 12:39 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-May-20 12:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
uh oh, it's spreading internationally now
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-massnahmen-tausende-menschen-demonstrieren-bundesweit-gegen-einschraenkungen-a-c712db6e-632a-440a-af52-62c587df2812

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Tausende demonstrieren gegen Corona-Regeln - DER SPIEGEL - Politik
"Stoppt Gates", "Legt den Maulkorb ab", "Widerstand": In mehreren deutschen Städten haben Bürger gegen die Corona-Beschränkungen protestiert. Auf Abstandsregeln nahmen nicht alle Rücksicht.
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[10-May-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
I can't view that article for some reason, it just has an S with a spinning circle around it, like it's loading something


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
the article is blurred out


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
probably the ad-gate


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
oh, it finally loaded, it's an adblock blocker


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, $5 a month for a subscription


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[10-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
that's 1/3rd of a WoW subscription


[10-May-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox/blob/master/README.md

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Bypass Paywalls web browser extension. Contribute to iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Bypass Paywalls for Firefox. Contribute to iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox development by creating an account on GitHub.
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[10-May-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon so does this mean Euro and US don't want 5G? Does that do anything to 5G efforts (like lobbying to stop it). If phone companies sell their phones labelling "5G" does that mean people aren't going to buy them?


[10-May-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not that Europe and US don't want to.


[10-May-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
it's that nutjobs are an international issue.


[10-May-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
5G spreads cancer, homosexualism and communism.


[10-May-20 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and if you believe otherwise, you're either ignorant or payed off.


[10-May-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.kgns.tv/content/news/Local-orphanage-being-sued-for-access-to-land--570295201.html

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Local orphanage being sued for access to land
The federal government is filing a lawsuit against Sacred Heart Children's Home to gain access to survey their land for the border wall. The case is scheduled to go before a federal judge in July.
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[10-May-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump steals land from orphanage run by nuns"


[10-May-20 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent sounds unfixable atm


[10-May-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That commercial is trying to say that she imagined she could turn invisible, but due to a bizarre lakk of framing, it presents her as actually invisible first.


[10-May-20 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no


[10-May-20 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's saying she sexually identifies as a stealth bomber


[10-May-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
She just wants to hurl heavy objects at brown people.


[10-May-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's saying dogs are stupid as fuck and won't notice someone walking up to them and picking up large objects despite their extreme sense of smell and fair sense of hearing


[10-May-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also that B&E is OK


[10-May-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As long as nobody can see you


[10-May-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's saying that when girls dream big and eat their STEM veggies they can grow up to become part of the military industrial complex too


[10-May-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's the lesson of pretty much all media involving invisible people.


[10-May-20 12:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think that's the worst part about this because it's what they're *actually* trying to imply


[10-May-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women are becoming biologists to try to save the rainforest? This isn't the STEM equality I asked for. Let's make a new stealth bomber to level that rainforest in a covert mission that by the time anybody realizes happened, it's too late to start investigations.


[10-May-20 01:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we're already levelling more rainforest as a result of covid-19...somehow


[10-May-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is gonna be one of those things where we get a montage of a girl growing up in the 40s trying to learn science at school and being bullied and ignored, but trying really hard


[10-May-20 01:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony the trees cause covid you sheep. we have to kill them before they kill us

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[10-May-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then she finally makes it to the top "And when the US Army was presented with a difficult problem, Amy found a solution"


[10-May-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Smashcut to footage of agent orange being released


[10-May-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
5G is spreading communism? :glowing_eyes:


[10-May-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Comrade, if you see men trying to burn tower, know that the hammer and sikkle are not just for working.


[10-May-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The waves are small enough to preprogram neural pathways, evening them out over time so all brains are equal


[10-May-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, I have that already


[10-May-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
it didn't work on that site


[10-May-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-May-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Odd, worked for me; maybe your definitions are out of date?


[10-May-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/south-dakota-sioux-tribes/index.html

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Sioux tribe rejects South Dakota governor request to remove Covid-1...
The Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe has rejected an ultimatum by South Dakota's governor to remove checkpoints on state highways within tribal reservations or risk legal action.
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[10-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, strongest when we work together against an enemy by all surrendering to it in unison for the sake of THE LINE


[10-May-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/SonicFox/status/1259254956760207372

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There’s no way this fool found my TG LMAOOO
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[10-May-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, racist?


[10-May-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/apstylebook/status/1258768634169757697

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We now say not to use the archaic and sexist term "mistress" for a woman in a long-term sexual relationship with, and financially supported by, a man who is married to someone else. 
Instead, use an alternative like companion or lover on first reference. Provide details later...
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[10-May-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[10-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jasonafex is a mess.


[10-May-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mistress is dated


[10-May-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Use "side chick/piece"


[10-May-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[10-May-20 02:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who are all these people?! 
Why are they getting attention of all sudden?


[10-May-20 02:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Besides being a personal communication.


[10-May-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SonicFox is well known for being a fighting game player. Jasonafex is a furry artist who doesn't know when to stop.


[10-May-20 02:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But why personal quarrel should get such attention?


[10-May-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hundreds of thousands of followers.


[10-May-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, our culture is just TMZ and Perez Hilton all the time because any person who is slightly famous develops people with parasocial attractions to them


[10-May-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was only last month made aware of "onlyfans" and "simps"


[10-May-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People are weird


[10-May-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Simp" has been a word in hip hop culture since the 90s


[10-May-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's in Baby Got Back.


[10-May-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whenever I hear "hip hop" I cover my ears and start screaming until the bad goes away


[10-May-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I certainly don't remember having heard it until this year


[10-May-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/496973-trump-administration-asks-federal-court-to-throw-out-lawsuit-to-add

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DOJ asks federal court to throw out lawsuit to add ERA to the Const...
The Department of Justice (DOJ) is asking a federal court to dismiss
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[10-May-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When Ginsburg says you're on the wrong path, give it up.


[10-May-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It had a time limit and the ratifications didn't meet it. Try again.


[10-May-20 02:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Simp has literally zero meaning now because everyone and their mother is using it against people who help their mothers bring in groceries


[10-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Squirrels in my pants


[10-May-20 02:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why are they in your pants


[10-May-20 02:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...oh.


[10-May-20 02:30 AM] ononim#8141
Jason also groomed his wife then she was 15


[10-May-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jason of the Argonauts or Jason of the CampLakeHorny murders?


[10-May-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
all of them.


[10-May-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
it's in the name, see.


[10-May-20 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
Jasonafex


[10-May-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh


[10-May-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
legitimately suprised at you using the word 'groomed' tbh :D


[10-May-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's much less interesting


[10-May-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/in-the-early-days-of-the-pandemic-the-us-government-turned-down-an-offer-to-manufacture-millions-of-n95-masks-in-america/2020/05/09/f76a821e-908a-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html


[10-May-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> “We still have four like-new N95 manufacturing lines,” Bowen wrote that day in an email to top administrators in the Department of Health and Human Services. “Reactivating these machines would be very difficult and very expensive but could be achieved in a dire situation.”
> 
> But communications over several days with senior agency officials — including Robert Kadlec, the assistant secretary for preparedness and emergency response — left Bowen with the clear impression that there was little immediate interest in his offer.
> 
> “I don’t believe we as an government are anywhere near answering those questions for you yet,” Laura Wolf, director of the agency’s Division of Critical Infrastructure Protection, responded that same day.
> 
> Bowen persisted.
> 
> 
> “We are the last major domestic mask company,” he wrote on Jan. 23. “My phones are ringing now, so I don’t ‘need’ government business. I’m just letting you know that I can help you preserve our infrastructure if things ever get really bad. I’m a patriot first, businessman second.”
> 
> In the end, the government did not take Bowen up on his offer. Even today, production lines that could be making more than 7 million masks a month sit dormant.


[10-May-20 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
I can imagine some furry on tumblr going "wife gwooming uwu"


[10-May-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Emails show Bright pressed Kadlec and other agency leaders on the issue of mask shortages — and Bowen’s proposal specifically — to no avail. On Jan. 26, Bright wrote to a deputy that Bowen’s warnings “seem to be falling on deaf ears.”
> 
> That day, Bowen sent Bright a more direct warning.
> 
> “U.S. mask supply is at imminent risk,” he wrote. “Rick, I think we’re in deep s---,” he wrote a day later.


[10-May-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
I bet there's a fandom for grooming spouses


[10-May-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
on tumblr


[10-May-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does it count as grooming if you promise them a green card if they marry you


[10-May-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember I had a high school teacher who married a US citizen and she always joked "I swear, I did it for the right reasons."

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[10-May-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
anything counts as grooming these days.


[10-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best part? You know what class she taught?


[10-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AP US Government.


[10-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She couldn't vote.


[10-May-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/496979-ohio-state-university-to-pay-41-million-to-162-men-who-say-they

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Ohio State University to pay $41 million to 162 men who say they we...
Ohio State University announced the details of settlement reached with over 160 men who say they were sexually abused by Richard Strauss, a long-time athletic team physician at the school.
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[10-May-20 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
Payday!


[10-May-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jim Jordan protected this guy


[10-May-20 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
oh it absolutely doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. If the number is correct or not.


[10-May-20 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
people have caught the scent of free money in the air.


[10-May-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The report found that personnel at the university knew what Strauss was doing as early as 1979."


[10-May-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Anyone who's ever heard of this story would report abuse.


[10-May-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
because why on earth wouldn't you?


[10-May-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because you're not an awful person?


[10-May-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because you'd rather be someone who wasn't molested than someone who gets money?


[10-May-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
pfft.


[10-May-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
everyone was molested these days, people have become used to victim stories.


[10-May-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
so it doesn't hurt you any


[10-May-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and the money... Free money's good :3


[10-May-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, you'd rather not have reason to have the money. The only reason you have the money is because something awful happened to you.


[10-May-20 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
no.


[10-May-20 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
the only reason you have the money is because you told a nice story.


[10-May-20 03:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's impossible to prove anyway, so...


[10-May-20 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
your word against the opposition, and the opposition has already lost.


[10-May-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not like any rando gets money


[10-May-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These are people who were in close contact with the guy


[10-May-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, absolutely. You have to have a credible story, it's not entirely trivial.


[10-May-20 03:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1259269703190695942?s=20

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[10-May-20 03:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zbw2vWOz4

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Inside The Mind of Tim Pool | Jack Saint & Creationist Cat
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[10-May-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's no Mainstream Meteor.

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[10-May-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-takei-i-know-what-concentration-camps-are-i-was-inside-two-of-them-in-america/

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George Takei: "I know what concentration camps are. I was inside tw...
Takei is backing Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's description of immigrant detention centers as "concentration camps"
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[10-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are people that argue the Japanese-American concentration camps weren't that because lol baseball teams


[10-May-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also people that defend concentration to begin with


[10-May-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There _is_ an argument that they saved lives, because americans are so stupid and racist they would have lynched any asian-looking guy on sight during the war...


[10-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The machine guns pointed at you are for your safety, citizen.


[10-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminds me again of the DS9 ep that was on a bit ago, set in 2024.


[10-May-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen the "They can just walk back into Mexico" argument


[10-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They cannot.


[10-May-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rich California guy tries to explain to Dax that Sanctuaries are just for the protection of the homeless, to which she replies "Then why is there a wall around it?"


[10-May-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/catholic-churches-paycheck-protection-program-12000-applied-9000-got/

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More than 12,000 Catholic churches in the U.S. applied for PPP loan...
More than 12,000 Catholic churches have now applied for the government's small business loans – and 75% of those applications have been approved.
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[10-May-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not ask God for the money?


[10-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Burn them to the ground


[10-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They already get tax exemptions


[10-May-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If they want to get a business loan, they better be ready to be class as and called a business


[10-May-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A for-profit venture


[10-May-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
can we start our own derpi religion


[10-May-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
church of :premium:


[10-May-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
agreed. No fucking way they should get all the perks of a for-profit with no drawbacks


[10-May-20 04:28 AM] jlun2#8758
aren't there too many religious people to ever get rid of that law


[10-May-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
well fine, why give them loans then?


[10-May-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's obvious why would they want them but what would be the _legitimate need_?


[10-May-20 04:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Church Of :wat:


[10-May-20 04:39 AM] RYDE#8862
How about Church of Celestia?


[10-May-20 04:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:cakelestia:


[10-May-20 04:39 AM] RYDE#8862
Fine by me.


[10-May-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So here's the thing, right - congress legislates the PPP, democrats try and fail to prevent loopholes, program goes into effect


[10-May-20 04:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But then, it's not automatic. Actual human beings had to look at the applications and go "hmm yes this qualifies, I will give them dollarses"


[10-May-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This might be the best trap Democrats ever made.


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
These people "just following orders" made that decision *nine thousand times* for St. Heepdydoo's Church of Pennance?


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it's a trap it's purely accidental


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've forced the administration to be responsible for all the bullshit about who gets the money.


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, this is exactly the kind of thing Pelosi would pull in an election year.


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democrats are consistently unable to formulate even the simplest plans


[10-May-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Let Republicans get their way, but in a way the average voter hears "Trump gave taxpayer money to churches"


[10-May-20 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The average voter goes to church


[10-May-20 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The ones that don't are all already democrat-leaning


[10-May-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"The constitution says..." doesn't mean squat when it's "for our team"


[10-May-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
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[10-May-20 04:52 AM] illumnious#7938
well shiiiiiit


[10-May-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The bible says "don't kill" and "only those without sin can punish" and look at how furiously christians jerk themselves off to the death penalty


[10-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I don't think people care about this on constitutional grounds.


[10-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it's all about independents.


[10-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who identifies Republican/Democrat can't switch.


[10-May-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
independents will just care about the economy


[10-May-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can only alter how they vote by whether they show up, which is really hard to control much.


[10-May-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents care about the surface-level shit.


[10-May-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's still up in the (hot) air how long that can be propped up before it deflates


[10-May-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hear Hillary's under investigation and they switch their vote, or hear Trump is an outsider etc.


[10-May-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a damn about the constitution, most of them are white well-off fukkheads who would happily see blakk people murdered.


[10-May-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem for them is that they hear that churches *and not them* got money.


[10-May-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hear that big companies, but not their company, got money.


[10-May-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there'll be stories all over about that on the eve of the election.


[10-May-20 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
```They've forced the administration to be responsible```


[10-May-20 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
😂


[10-May-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the sense of it being their fault, not in the sense of making good decisions.


[10-May-20 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
there's so ffffffffffucking much the administration is at fault for.


[10-May-20 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't matter to anyone.


[10-May-20 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
and this is comparatively minor, to everything going on lately.


[10-May-20 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
you talked about superficial things, well, an ape in a suit on you TV every day that makes you ashamed to turn it on counts. Even that doesn't seem to change things.


[10-May-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, he stopped going on TV


[10-May-20 05:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have a feeling that once the "armed protesters" start making more of a habit of "protesting" in people's homes like they did the other day, we'll be well past the point of superficiality


[10-May-20 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's where we're at right now


[10-May-20 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There won't be any arrows and flags on the maps in this chapter because we're not looking at north vs. south or even red state vs. blue, it's just one big brown *smear* of self-destructive stupidity


[10-May-20 05:43 AM] illumnious#7938
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[10-May-20 05:44 AM] illumnious#7938
haha


[10-May-20 05:53 AM] illumnious#7938
this thread tho https://twitter.com/braveryhs_lt/status/1258936311475568640

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[10-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie It's always weird to me how the most vocal 2nd Amendment supporters never respond to my question if they'd fight against the government forcing a minority into camps


[10-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But deep down I know it's because not only do they want to see minorities murdered, they would assist the government in tyranny.


[10-May-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If we had the gun culture of today in 1941, we'd have thousands of pictures of white Americans helping the Army round up Japanese people.


[10-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty obvious really


[10-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you need to do is look at how the NRA and Reagan are the ones behind Cali's strict gun laws.


[10-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the time, it was blakks with the guns.


[10-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly when it's white people with guns, California's laws are terrible in the eyes of the NRA that wanted them to begin with.


[10-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also like, people who talk about "good guy with a gun" stopping mass shootings are really the sort who will shoot a thief running out of a Walmart.


[10-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, conservative mindset


[10-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not about what's best for all of society.


[10-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about punishing bad people as hard as possible.


[10-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You stole a beer? You get shot to death.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's just considered acceptable.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I know people who wish they could shoot people for cutting in line.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because they're conservative


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire worldview is binary.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They *don't care* about doing the least harm.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want harm.


[10-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it in terms of a function, Its


[10-May-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the X axis is the severity of your crime


[10-May-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
on the Y axis is the severity of your punishment


[10-May-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, for that matter


[10-May-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
let's say that instead of crime and punishment, it's goodness of action and goodness of reward


[10-May-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, crime is a negative X value, and punishments are negative Y values


[10-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What liberals want is a sort of stair step


[10-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a range of bad behavior gets a certain punishment level that is the minimum necessary to stop people doing the bad thing more


[10-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
What conservatives want is similar, but with only two steps.


[10-May-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And they never ask "Why do we consider bad thing bad?" or "How will this punishment make thing we have thought about why it is bad not be done anymore"


[10-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want an overseeing morality judge that immediately executes anyone who does wrong, and in a horrifically cruel way.


[10-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
While people who liv a "good" life are given nothing but infinite free stuff.


[10-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[10-May-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Strasserism.


[10-May-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or White Socialism if you prefer


[10-May-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Solidarity forever, white workers of the world unite etc


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is before considering race.


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they weren't racist in the slightest, this is what conservatives want.


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want sinners sent to Hell and nonsinners sent to Heaven.


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immediately.


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the state.


[10-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And everyone else too.


[10-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns to them are just divine retribution.


[10-May-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But aren't they Jack Chick Christians?


[10-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A way to smite people who stray from the path.


[10-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter.


[10-May-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(ie kid that didn't accept Christ goes to Hell, serial killer that does before execution goes to Heaven)


[10-May-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care about the actual form of their religious beliefs.


[10-May-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The religious beliefs are just a thin justification for their morals.


[10-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, racist thinks blakks are evil people who are different


[10-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
but nothing in the Bible says that


[10-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, hey look, a moral value that says X thing blakks do is wrong


[10-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hey look, a way to dress it up as something from the Bible.


[10-May-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The religion is a cover for people who already want their particular values to be put on a pedestal and all other smited.


[10-May-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why you cannot trip them up with contradictions in the religion they espouse.


[10-May-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would only work if people actually derived morals from religion like they often claim for why atheists are bad.


[10-May-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't.


[10-May-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't necessarily derive this stuff from racism either. Racism will inherently *get* derived from wanting only one culture to be considered correct.


[10-May-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've just got all these people in rural areas who grew up only with people who think exactly the same listening in church to people saying others are bad.


[10-May-20 06:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> only one culture
how are they so homogenous while Europeans are all the same skin color(ish) but still hate each other for differences


[10-May-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Country.


[10-May-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
These rural types all can say IMMA MURRIKAN


[10-May-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
State identities aren't very strong.


[10-May-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the US were actually different countries and you needed to get visas to move around it, then it would be a very different story.


[10-May-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fundamentally, we're talking about views whose ultimate conclusion is white nationalism and fascism.


[10-May-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd be at each other's throats from the nationalism if in different countries.


[10-May-20 06:22 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking: hm ty


[10-May-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird thing is that rural areas everywhere in America are basically the same.


[10-May-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that they're the same because the same businesses based in cities capitalize on the realities of small town America


[10-May-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not weird at all.


[10-May-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll find Confederate flags in rural areas of states never even involved in the Civil War.


[10-May-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism leads to monopoly.


[10-May-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Monopoly means central control.


[10-May-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/z6ulbcpn4wj31.jpg

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[10-May-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burgerpunk is an underused style


[10-May-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, about the actions vs. treatment functions


[10-May-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's on a scale of -1 to 1: The liberal function would start at (-1, 0) and rise up to (1, 1)


[10-May-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative one would start at (-1, -1) and go to (1, 1) with possibly more than 2, but still very few, steps


[10-May-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, liberals would just reduce MegaHitler's treatment as necessary, eventually putting him in a little bunker with nothing but a TV and some chips. Basic humane treatment, Geneva conventions etc.


[10-May-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives would invent new forms of retribution.


[10-May-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberals would have helped Hitler get into architecture school, wouldn't they?


[10-May-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-May-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was a disabled WWI vet just a few credits away from art school with talent


[10-May-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Give him a scholarship


[10-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be an interesting story.


[10-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The liberal time traveler goes bakk in time to giv Hitler a free ride scholarship to save the jews.


[10-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Germany gets invaded by Russia and the Cold War starts early etc. etc.


[10-May-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://turtledove.fandom.com/wiki/Uncle_Alf

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[10-May-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The main action of the story itself is set in 1929, as sergeant Adolf Hitler of the Feldgendarmerie is sent to Lille in pursuit of communist agitator Jacques Doriot. The narrative is a series of letters from "Uncle Alf" to his niece/lover, Angela Raubal. In these letters, he expresses his frustration with the complacency of the local German officials; his disgust with the "degraded" French; his utter devotion to the Kaiserreich, and; his unrestrained (and possibly inappropriate) passion for his beloved Geli."


[10-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can see the liberal approach with Anders Behring Breivik btw


[10-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has basically a maximum security dorm room without the ability to broadcast out to the world.


[10-May-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Young men have their mind poisoned through social isolation online.


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, society is safe from him, and he is safe from society, and we're all better off.


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many Americans hear about him and get *pissed*.


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Stephen Fry story about making sure Hitler is never born actually turns out _worse_ for the Jews btw


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not because he killed minorities


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but because he's been ruled to be bad


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because posh prison, yes


[10-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and therefore should be shot in the streets.


[10-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans think prison rape is not only acceptable, but something to be encouraged


[10-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are you surprised?


[10-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not, just pointing out that like


[10-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
guns are prison rape but outside prison, Its.


[10-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Prison rape should make the people who care about justice mad because like


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
>the people who care about justice


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if you think "Good, you violated what society says is bad and now you pay the price" is how to operate


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Opponent#3498
well, now I understand your zeal about 'confiscate guns' :D


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
one side wants what's best for everyone and the other wants karmic retribution


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Extrajudicial punishment cheapens the point of the law being to protect society


[10-May-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither side wants or diswants "justice".


[10-May-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Justice is what is best for everyone.


[10-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're mixing the two sides up, Its.


[10-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Good, you violated what society says is bad and now you pay the price" has nothing to do with "point of the law being to protect society"


[10-May-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
these are opposing viewpoints.


[10-May-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason is that protection from something, and declaring something bad, are different goals.


[10-May-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant it more like "You go to prison and serve what you deserve to repay your debt" vs "You go to prison and haha you get raped, you deserve it"


[10-May-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are the same viewpoint.


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The payment is the retribution I've been talking about.


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Liberals don't generally see there being a debt to repay*


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might pay lipservice to it


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A person serving a fair sentence for what they did and a person who gets subject to extrajudicial punishment via rape are not the same thing.


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
but if you actually dig, they aren't looking for prisons to make people pay some toll


[10-May-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the same thing when it comes to how people see them.


[10-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The long sentences we hav aren't because more years will somehow make people better people.


[10-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's so they get denied luxuries and raped more.


[10-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may note the US has ridiculously inflated prison sentences, especially for drugs, and that Republicans did this with clear racial targeting.


[10-May-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You literally go to jail longer having a bit of crakk and a gun on you than if you hijakk a plane at gunpoint.


[10-May-20 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
at the same time US has one of the easiest, most trivial access to drugs for an everyman.


[10-May-20 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
or so it seems, anyway.


[10-May-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, you get a shorter sentence if it's cocaine, because a racist lied to congress with fake college credentials.


[10-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause white people do cocaine. Blakk people do crakk.


[10-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The whole Reagan entrapment thing so he could go on TV and say "LOOK I GOT THIS CRACK THREE BLOCKS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE"


[10-May-20 06:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty interesting and sad story


[10-May-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the thing about the conservative mindset.


[10-May-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any lie is justifiable.


[10-May-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not care about any damage they ever cause.


[10-May-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry, it was HW Bush


[10-May-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as the right people are hurt, and the right people rewarded, nothing matters period.


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP: Government without morals


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone's just bad enuff to be considered bad? Destroy their life to lie to a bunch of other bad people to literally genocide more bad people later. It's all good.


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats: Morals without government


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP has morals, but they are situational morals.


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't almighty rules you must follow. They care about who you are and what you've done.


[10-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they don't care Trump was soliciting a bribe.


[10-May-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/496944-maher-to-tara-reade-on-timing-of-sexual-assault-allegation-why-wait-until

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[10-May-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't actually think bribery is bad in the abstract.


[10-May-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Well, you know credibility certainly is a problem for the party on this issue," Maher added, claiming Democrats "'woke' themselves into a corner" by embracing "believe all women," often echoed during Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's 2018 confirmation hearings.

“That was never tenable because believing everything doesn’t make you noble,” the host noted. “It makes you gullible and leaves us with the world where Republicans don’t care about this stuff. So it’s just a unilateral weapon that is used only against Democrats.”


[10-May-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hate bribery when it's used by minorities to get out of being fukked up by the police.


[10-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, this ties in with something you often say


[10-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
about a liberal Trump


[10-May-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah see things are so bad that I think if a black man gave a police officer $5000 in cash to not shoot them they still would be shot


[10-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals actually do believe in universal morals.


[10-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when a liberal messes up, liberals dogpile.


[10-May-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
When a conservative messes up, conservatives build a wall around them.


[10-May-20 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sad thing is, I think Americans prefer how conservatives act vs liberals


[10-May-20 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People go "lol they're eating their own"


[10-May-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because conservatives go "that person will put the right people in place and is the right person, so they're good"


[10-May-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make people prefer liberalism, you need sunshine.


[10-May-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives thrive when their incredibly bad behavior is mostly under wraps and they can huddle up to blokk criticism of the tip of the iceberg seen.


[10-May-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
When that gets seen... liberals then can win by being nearly squeaky clean, having eleminated the taint that got in.


[10-May-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is nothing better for liberals than for Trump to be saying the quiet part out loud so often that independents start to think that maybe something is wrong with Republicans.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if those fabled squeaky-clean liberals even exist.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They very much do, according to statistics.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberals are subject to double standards essentially.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Opponent#3498
entirely of their own making, mind.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True.


[10-May-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans get investigated, charged, and convicted far, far more often than Democrats


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> Burgerpunk
lmao
also sorry chat didnt scroll


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every Republican administration has a major scandal involving the president ordering people to break the law outright.


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Opponent#3498
so, one side is better at playing the Law, and that is, suprisingly, not Republicans.


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Opponent#3498
funny isn't it.


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not true of Democrats.


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, most Democrats aren't even liberal


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just milder conservatives.


[10-May-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But among them, there are a decent number of liberals.


[10-May-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And among them, some must be clean because there's a clear gradient involved.


[10-May-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, they won't make it to the White House. Anyone there isn't clean.


[10-May-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and is probably pretty conservative)


[10-May-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they do exist among the legislature, and what little scandals involve a Democratic presidential candidate tend to be too minor or outright invented with the real dirt buried.


[10-May-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary got shafted because an investigation reopening was announced like 3 days before the election.


[10-May-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It made her minor scandal look pretty big at a very bad time.


[10-May-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the dirt on Trump, while readily available, just wasn't dug up in time for the election.


[10-May-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now there's a mountain of it found, quite possible more dirt *visible to the public* than many previous presidents had *total*.


[10-May-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's gonna be what makes Independents suspect Trump won't do shit for them personally cause all he does is make false promises. They've been burned.


[10-May-20 07:02 AM] Midknight#9798
a lot of the dirt on trump is brand new dirt. everything he does digs himself deeper


[10-May-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's a fukking idiot, but if the worst people can dig up is "he voted with Republicans and fingered a pussy on the Senate floor once", it's kind of hard for people to think "oh that Biden won't really do what he promises!"


[10-May-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny


[10-May-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Biden would have easily won any election he was a candidate in, only this one is a toss up


[10-May-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Democrats picked him instead of Dukakis in 88 they would have won.


[10-May-20 09:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/ousted-scientist-tears-while-ripping-trump-coronavirus-response-we-couldve-done-something-we-1502926

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Trump administration whistleblower Rick Bright teared up while ripping the Trump's response to the coronavirus: "We could've done something and we didn't."
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[10-May-20 10:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Belfast Northern Ireland is overseas" - 🇮🇪 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Map_of_Ireland%27s_capitals.png

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[10-May-20 10:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/05/09/news/taoiseach-describes-northern-nationalist-as-overseas--1932152/

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Leo Varadkar accused of 'insulting nationalists'
TAOISEACH Leo Varadkar has been accused of "insulting nationalists" after describing Northern Ireland as "overseas" during a radio interview. The Fine Gael leader made the comment while discussing the number of global members of his party. "We don't have a lot of...
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[10-May-20 12:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[10-May-20 12:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They sort of are


[10-May-20 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're more interested in sucking up to daddy England than in Ireland itself


[10-May-20 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/08/andrew-cuomo-eric-schmidt-coronavirus-tech-shock-doctrine/

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Big tech’s emerging pandemic shock doctrine demands heavy public subsidies for a no-touch, socially distanced coronavirus future.
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[10-May-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Andrew Cum-o


[10-May-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sorry, could I get that article with a bit *less* yellow journalism?


[10-May-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/business/economy/coronavirus-tyson-plant-iowa.html?referringSource=articleShare

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Pork Chops vs. People: Battling Coronavirus in an Iowa Meat Plant
After President Trump’s executive order, meat plants are reopening. Can they do so without endangering their low-wage workers and their communities?
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/10/business/10virus-tyson-print/09virus-tyson-1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[10-May-20 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
of course they can, it's **AUTOMATION TIME**


[10-May-20 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
:furries:


[10-May-20 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
it's long due


[10-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
hahahahaha Today's trends

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[10-May-20 07:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump has *always* been jealous though. Why is this now just a trend


[10-May-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sherrod-brown-explains-how-joe-biden-can-win-ohio Sherrod Brown, an interesting figure

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Sherrod Brown doesn’t write off red districts. He talks lunch-pail economics with people. He tells them even if you disagree on social issues, I’m here for you on economics.
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[10-May-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8hefESt7c

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George Carlin - God loves you!
One of the best parts of "Religon is Bullshit", found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA
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[10-May-20 07:41 PM] jlun2#8758
> of course they can, it's AUTOMATION TIME
:wheeze: 
Yea I don't see that happening any time soon


[10-May-20 07:55 PM] Opponent#3498
:sad:


[10-May-20 08:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
The big thing with 5G is that its much higher data speeds may push it over the limit needed to run fully automated factories. They've run tests on ports in California where the entire site is connected with 5G and all they need as human power was maybe 20 people for an entire port. Everything ran itself.


[10-May-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
So post 5G it may well be possible to fully automate meat processing plant, which to this point have mostly been immigrant labor which means the bosses cab leverage immigration law however they want to stop unionization. And once they can upgrade to 5G controlled production they can abandon the migrants and cut costs even further.


[10-May-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
oh no


[10-May-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
my mom is a karen


[10-May-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wonder, can any of Musk's companies (SpaceX, Tesla) just...oust him? Like, sorry, the board has determined you are a liability to the corporation?


[10-May-20 08:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait a sec...:squintyjack:


[10-May-20 08:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Have they solved problems with limited processing power?


[10-May-20 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
> I wonder, can any of Musk's companies (SpaceX, Tesla) just...oust him? Like, sorry, the board has determined you are a liability to the corporation?
@WingbeatPony 

That'd imply someone can buy up enough of a controlling share. And Musk may have enough shares by himself to retain control


[10-May-20 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Have they solved problems with limited processing power?
@Эᴚ|∫ 

If they have a fully automated port I would assume so. From what I also hear a 5G network would also make cloud computing more viable and you can just offload data and maybe processing to the cloud itself.


[10-May-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
so it really is the future, huh.


[10-May-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
no wonder people try to stop it and rile up nutjobs so hard.


[10-May-20 09:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There's another cons theory


[10-May-20 09:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's more to do with recognizing - if in some undefined way - that this endangers their jobs and livelihoods under capitalism. Like the Luddites in England who attacked the machines of the early factories in a desperate bid to protect their trades and livelihoods and prevent all of that labor power from being concentrated among the rising bougie capitalist.


[10-May-20 09:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
If for instance this were to be in any other economic model - say, Communism as Marx and Engels writes - then this would merely be an augmentation of individual labor power so people would have to work less and have more time to pursue intellectual and creative pursuits or development


[10-May-20 09:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
the theoryin short sums up to: Thanos half of population, replace menial work with machine-learned AI.


[10-May-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it would certainly benefit humanity as a whole.


[10-May-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
there's too many people available for current economic structure.


[10-May-20 09:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Intended effect - keep the important people and the service only.


[10-May-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
excuse me what the fuck could a factory do with 5G that it couldn't do with LR wifi


[10-May-20 09:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Servicing you know who


[10-May-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
the deployment of wifi is significantly cheaper too because the technology is already established


[10-May-20 09:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[]
Not sure if WiFI easily congested


[10-May-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
there's an easy workaround for that


[10-May-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
just add more APs


[10-May-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
turn the transmit power down on them to match


[10-May-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
APs are dirt cheap you can buy pallets of hundreds of them


[10-May-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
same with boxes of cable


[10-May-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
and this would _still_ make more sense than a 5G deployment


[10-May-20 09:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How it is easier to deploy cell tower vs 100 AP and cabling?


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
because every technician under the sun can wire this system in a day


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
5G? expect months


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
the parts are really expensive


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
the maintenance cost is super high


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
and you need a lot of transmit power


[10-May-20 09:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What do you need to replace often?


[10-May-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
ideally, nothing, but sometimes things just break


[10-May-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
if part of your AP network breaks, usually nothing will happen because the network will just heal itself


[10-May-20 09:13 PM] byte[]#2610
but a single centralized 5G radio will take out the entire network if it fails


[10-May-20 09:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The question is rather in comms reliability. In my experience, wifi is very unreliable


[10-May-20 09:14 PM] byte[]#2610
because the situations you were in didn't design for reliability


[10-May-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
home access point deployment is a particular disaster and gives wifi a bad name for its technical specs


[10-May-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
usually offices are better because they have techs who know what they're doing


[10-May-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
but not always


[10-May-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
sometimes they have one or two access points running for thousands of employees


[10-May-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm, that reminds me, I should read up on home deployment principles sometime.


[10-May-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
the basic rule of thumb is that if you have bad reception in one area, turn the transmit power down on the adjacent APs and put a new AP in the affected room


[10-May-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
and if you are considering a dense deployment, one AP shouldn't serve more than 50 clients at a time


[10-May-20 09:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump, Biden gear up for battle in Florida, where coronavirus isn't the only thing on voters' minds

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-biden-gear-battle-florida-where-coronavirus-isn-t-only-n1202406

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The electoral picture in the crucial swing state heading into November seems to resemble any other presidential election year.
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[10-May-20 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But we are not dealing with few machines, but rather with 1000 machines in a single enclosed room


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
then, uh, wire them


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they need power cables anyway


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
seems like a nice setup for PoE


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds more sensible. And the mobile units?


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
why not use wifi for those


[10-May-20 09:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Forklisfts, drones?


[10-May-20 09:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is the range for WiFi?


[10-May-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I wouldn't use wifi for drones, I'd use an analog channel band meant for controlling them


[10-May-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
there's no real limit to how far you can extend a wireless network


[10-May-20 09:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not feasible for large numbers, analog is limited


[10-May-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
you can just keep going and going


[10-May-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
you just need more access points to extend it


[10-May-20 09:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is range of a omnidirectional wifi?


[10-May-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
you can transmit in one direction for kilometers


[10-May-20 09:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lets look at edge case, where there is a few soccer field open area?


[10-May-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
but the receiver needs to be able to send data back in order to authenticate


[10-May-20 09:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's fixed wifi


[10-May-20 09:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You need a dish for directional wifi


[10-May-20 09:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
and it is a fixed wifi, that requires alignment


[10-May-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
and I have already said you shouldn't use a setup like this


[10-May-20 09:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How much stuff can you fit in an analog channel?


[10-May-20 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
I feel like you are still misunderstanding


[10-May-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem with wifi is people try to do this

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[10-May-20 09:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Solve the problems:
- A room with 1000 robots, sending and receiving realtime data.
- A x km by x km field with hundreds mobile units.
- Mobile units travelling over wilderness.
- Mobile units travelling in a densely populated area.


[10-May-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610

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[10-May-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
this is how wifi is intended to work


[10-May-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
lots of small, lower power APs that cover a more limited range and can deliver higher quality service


[10-May-20 09:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How does wifi handle hand-over?


[10-May-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
none of the above things you mentioned are a problem for an enclosed space factory


[10-May-20 09:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That looks good.


[10-May-20 09:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The factory was never a problem in the first place.


[10-May-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
hand-over is done by detecting the receive power to the previous AP is too low, searching for the highest-power nearby AP, and authenticating to it


[10-May-20 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
if the APs are serviced by the same router, the machine won't even drop any packets


[10-May-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
for a mobile fleet of drones (which is still impractical for battery power reasons, by the way)


[10-May-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I would use regular (2G/3G GSM) cell radio


[10-May-20 09:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
These are very unrealiable, compared to 4G


[10-May-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no need for expanded bandwidth and you can use the steering tech those systems had to reduce interference


[10-May-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
they are quite reliable, actually


[10-May-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe it's your experience that they weren't


[10-May-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
but they are


[10-May-20 09:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
2G is quite slow.


[10-May-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter


[10-May-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
remote drone control doesn't require more than a few kbps of input


[10-May-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
hell, bps


[10-May-20 09:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It does if it needs to transfer realtime video and telemetry


[10-May-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
that's ridiculous


[10-May-20 09:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I know. What if they want to send the data to cloud warehouse to process the data. Not a typical homing drone, but analytical one


[10-May-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
you're concern trolling me


[10-May-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
the original discussion was about an automated factory


[10-May-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
this is unrelated


[10-May-20 09:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not just a factory, a factory complex


[10-May-20 09:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which is far more complex than a room full of stationary bots


[10-May-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't have to be stationary, you can have drones and forklifts inside the place


[10-May-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
the scope of this discussion was not about drones outside such an enclosure


[10-May-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
so stop asking me about it


[10-May-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not the problem I'm discussing


[10-May-20 09:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> They've run tests on ports in California where the entire site is connected with 5G and all they need as human power was maybe 20 people for an entire port. Everything ran itself.


[10-May-20 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Port is mostly outdoor


[10-May-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
a shipping port also has a defined scope and is quite possible to run a conventional wireless deployment for


[10-May-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
don't inject that nonsense into this


[10-May-20 09:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, your point that 5G is unnecessary to run an enterprise assets?


[10-May-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
not only is 5G more complicated to manage than wifi, it's much more expensive, needs more attention to its infrastructure, isn't as self-healing, and has significant downsides over both 4G and wifi


[10-May-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
5G is not a miracle technology, it doesn't pull bandwidth out of nothing


[10-May-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it uses very aggressive client steering and it requires a much higher microcell presence than any tech before it


[10-May-20 09:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
5G has smaller coverage range?


[10-May-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
so much so that a nationwide 5G deployment would be more or less comparable to a long range wifi deployment


[10-May-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
at the high transmit speeds, yes, you have to turn the Tx power down


[10-May-20 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's bandwidth? The scale that measures how fat each member of a rock band is? :xd:


[10-May-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
"gigabit 5G" is a meme and you'll only get that bandwidth if you stand right below a microcell


[10-May-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
otherwise you'll get 4G speeds


[10-May-20 09:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What would one need for a realtime self-driving vehicle with data processed in the cloud?


[10-May-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
impossible


[10-May-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
CAP theorem


[10-May-20 09:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To run every vehicle as separate instance?


[10-May-20 09:58 PM] byte[]#2610
if you process data in the cloud you have to deal with the fact that (1) the network will be delayed (2) the network could be entirely unavailable for any reason


[10-May-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
for autonomy you must do the processing onboard


[10-May-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't offload it to someone else's server


[10-May-20 09:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(1) Low latency networks, like 5G "as advertised"
(2) That's what you said, autonomy


[10-May-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
5G is a switched network just like every internet tech


[10-May-20 10:00 PM] byte[]#2610
there are switching delays and routing delays inherent to it


[10-May-20 10:01 PM] byte[]#2610
the latency adds up


[10-May-20 10:01 PM] byte[]#2610
plus what if the cloud provider goes offline (of which there's precedent for all 3 big cloud hosts)


[10-May-20 10:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's question of infrastructure deployment


[10-May-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
deploying a fleet of vehicles that cannot tolerate a network partition is not just stupid, it's so utterly reckless it should be outright illegal


[10-May-20 10:03 PM] byte[]#2610
you would _not_ do this in a real deployment


[10-May-20 10:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
On other hand, self-driving proven to be fairly good


[10-May-20 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
those aren't network-dependent


[10-May-20 10:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exactly


[10-May-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/mail-carrier-shot-and-killed-over-stimulus-check-union-says/

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[10-May-20 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
they do all processing locally


[10-May-20 10:05 PM] byte[]#2610
okay so what's your point


[10-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, "keep your dog inside or we won't deliver your mail", stimulus chekk was in said mail, so they shot the mail carrier.


[10-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Murrika.


[10-May-20 10:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Question is: The point of 5G, given a large portion of population vanishes?


[10-May-20 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
none, 4G would be better


[10-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "G" standards were taken over by the industry.


[10-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're meaningless, just meant to get people to buy new phones.


[10-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
they're not meaningless


[10-May-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
5G uses different bands, different transmit specs, and switches mobile traffic through adjacent neighbors to save client Tx power and allow the microcell to connect more clients


[10-May-20 10:09 PM] byte[]#2610
it is literally a modern solution to a modern problem


[10-May-20 10:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point, when you can use "wifi calling" fucntionality?


[10-May-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no idea what you are asking me


[10-May-20 10:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nevermind


[10-May-20 10:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, the cells communicate to each othe rdirectly, unlike regular cells?


[10-May-20 10:13 PM] byte[]#2610
microcells are the mobile "base stations" of a 5G deployment


[10-May-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't communicate with one other than to automatically regulate transmit power to avoid interference


[10-May-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
clients are the connected devices


[10-May-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
In an update spec to 4G, it is possible for multiple clients in close proximity to effectively bond their connections together and use the same TWDM slice from the cell


[10-May-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
5G takes this idea to the extreme


[10-May-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
using more spectrum, higher clocks (shorter timeslices), and far more connection sharing


[10-May-20 10:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thanks for explaining


[10-May-20 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Killing a federal employee on duty is a federal crime that can lead to a life sentence.


[10-May-20 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Emphasis on "*can*"


[10-May-20 11:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I hate to be the anti-optimist, but this guy's gonna walk


[10-May-20 11:09 PM] jlun2#8758
unless they're non white


[10-May-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or unless the angry mob is angry enough over the last one that walked


[10-May-20 11:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He doesn't seem rich enough to be able to ignore that


[11-May-20 12:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[11-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wrong flag


[11-May-20 12:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
fuck hitler 🇩🇪 🔥


[11-May-20 01:46 AM] ononim#8141
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[11-May-20 01:46 AM] ononim#8141
🤔


[11-May-20 01:47 AM] ononim#8141
Hate how our state media is not THAT far off then talking about nationalist shit in other east euro countries


[11-May-20 01:48 AM] ononim#8141
Makes me wonder if we would've been as bad if not for "Soviet Victory" national mythology


[11-May-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where's the tweet about how Eastern European countries have based their modern nationalism off of partisans named things like "Vladislav the Jew Slayer"


[11-May-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
why do they hate jews in modern times?


[11-May-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They need an enemy to justify authoritarian governance.


[11-May-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews are conveniently around but still recognizably different.


[11-May-20 02:24 AM] illumnious#7938
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[11-May-20 03:37 AM] illumnious#7938
YAAAAS QUEEN


[11-May-20 03:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[11-May-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
oh look it's shoe


[11-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/nick__puckett/status/1259541624389955584

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Happy Mother’s Day from C& C in Castle Rock, where the owner said this is almost double a normal Mother’s Day. https://t.co/cPSzjmAfAg
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[11-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I suddenly feel like I'm about to cough


[11-May-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
America about to cull the MAGA's now that they've taken to coughing into each others mouths as a form of greating to own the libs

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[11-May-20 04:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The world should ban US and UK travellers for a while after this.


[11-May-20 04:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They had this planned all along. They knew the people would revolt, so they are resorting to the most cosmic brained counter-measure ever


[11-May-20 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
@ononim jesus fucking christ... Well, I guess they decided to finally justify Russian media calling Ukrainians fascists and keep the meme alive huh. Fucking fantastic.


[11-May-20 04:45 AM] ononim#8141
As I said, I fear only the Victory Cult and using soviet imagery as nationalistic symbol prevented this shit happening there


[11-May-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I noticed how people ignored how Putin has been "president" or "prime minister" of Russia for over 20 years now


[11-May-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
if you wanted a textbook example of disconnect of the government from the people, look at Russia.


[11-May-20 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
there's _literally_ bum fuck all you can do to influence it in even the tiniest way. Might as well ignore it.


[11-May-20 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
least US has it's fantasies (or potential reality, who knows) of 'democracy'.


[11-May-20 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
and to stave off something big enough to be considered a threat, Russia has the wonderful propaganda system in place. AND, after 90ies, Putin's rule _is_ a vast improvement for an everyman.


[11-May-20 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it's 'lesser evil' type of situation, I think.


[11-May-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's pretty interesting as an American taking American history courses and taking Russian history courses as well


[11-May-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The message I got was basically "Unless it was Catherine the Great or early Lenin, living in Russia sucked a lot"


[11-May-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's fairly accurate.


[11-May-20 05:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/vizjourno/status/1259189791150800899
Tbh i'm less concerned about this being violently american than i am about this dude carrying a fucking rocket launcher

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[11-May-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie once called Russian history 'gruesome and boring'. Pretty good description.


[11-May-20 05:32 AM] Opponent#3498
oof.


[11-May-20 05:38 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBoIton/status/1259508214133075969

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these corona protesters are getting nutty with it
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[11-May-20 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao at the fat fuck on the right


[11-May-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No it was "bleak, but boring"


[11-May-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause people in the US hear "bleak" and think like, Fallout.


[11-May-20 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh, depends imo. It can someone's cup of tea


[11-May-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your cup of tea is "and then instead of fixing the problem, they drank more vodka and went thru the motions of life"


[11-May-20 05:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not just Slavic Russia tho


[11-May-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Modern Russia's territory also encompassed many other old cultures and empires


[11-May-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The story of how Russia lost its space program's pretty nuts if you think about it. They basically just accidentally killed the only guy who could swindle things properly while everyone stole each other's resources and then tried to pretend no rokkets had blown up.


[11-May-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not like, "woops he fell down a ladder", but like "we put him in gulag years ago and he never truly recovered"


[11-May-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
bleak, yes. That was the word I failed to remember.


[11-May-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[11-May-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Korolev living wouldn't have helped anything.


[11-May-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least, not as much as people think


[11-May-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Von Braun died in 1966, Apollo 11 still would have landed on the Moon in 1969.


[11-May-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Soviet space program was a bad combination of military and civilian interests and competition between branches that the US would not know until basically the Shuttle program


[11-May-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it wouldn't've gotten anyone to the Moon.


[11-May-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it might've gotten better robotic stuff to the Moon.


[11-May-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also if Korolev somehow made it to see the Buran then I think it would've flown a few more times and NASA would be prompted to update the Space Shuttle.


[11-May-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the epitome of 1970s/80s Soviet incompetence to me that the military brass thought "There's no way the US is building this for anything but a nuke"


[11-May-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC NASA originally planned to update the Shuttle by the late 90s, just didn't happen


[11-May-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
HYPERSONIC GLIDE BOMBER REEEEEE


[11-May-20 05:52 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, because of no political pressure.


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like they had a lot of spies in the US


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviet Union stopped the Buran and then collapsed.


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I don't think the brass actually thought that.


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just what they told to Kruschev.


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely one English language native US agent could have said "No...the DoD is just being really fucking stupid, the US would only use ICBMs"


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the thing you don't get is the mentality at the top.


[11-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The individual agents for sure would've known.


[11-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone below the top would've known.


[11-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The top? HEY SOVIET LEADER, US IS DOING STUFF WE SHOULD BE SCARED


[11-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
it keeps the leadership busy, and in a way that won't lead to actual war.


[11-May-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the boss wants paranoia, and red herrings keep him from making mistakes, you giv him paranoid red herrings.


[11-May-20 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The best thing the big cargo bay of the Shuttle did was enable the orbiter to be a hyper expensive booster system


[11-May-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you really think about it, if the US didn't want to keep Apollo, why not just make a variant of Titan that is crew-rated?


[11-May-20 06:21 AM] Honahue#0656
the AF had a lot of say in the Space Program, the shuttle suffered because of that


[11-May-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
and Apollo was only for moon stuff, LEO stuff needed a different platform, Gemini was just a test bed for Apollo tech


[11-May-20 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Titan did the Gemini launches, so it was human rated


[11-May-20 06:29 AM] Honahue#0656
but the point was to do something different from the Russians, Soyuz was made in the 60's too and it's still in use, the US had to make something better even if it wasn't actually better, though the Shuttle was p. cool I think the only thing it did a Soyuz couldn't was fix the Hubble but I could be wrong


[11-May-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Saturn V was great for LEO.


[11-May-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just the stuff it was sending that wasn't.


[11-May-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the Moon is a pittance when it comes to fuel usage.


[11-May-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just cut down on the Saturn stages and send up something relying on Solar panels and you've got a pretty decent launch vehicle for LEO.


[11-May-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They did that for Skylab but then everything later was Space Shuttle and its stupidity.


[11-May-20 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hey uh what if we build a military space station at a Lagrangian point"- how to make the US military not give a fuck about the Space Shuttle


[11-May-20 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's how you get another order of Saturn Vs.


[11-May-20 07:39 AM] Midknight#9798
We don't really want Saturn Vs again though. A lot of the hardware is utterly obsolete, and a lot of parts were designed around manufacturing techniques of the time that are no longer used or that have far superior options available today. If the folks in charge of SLS could get their heads out of their rears long enough to actually finish the thing and get it running without going back to add new gizmos and options that aren't needed yet, we'd be rockin'


[11-May-20 07:49 AM] Honahue#0656
eh, a modern designed F1 engine would be fine, NASA has thought about it, but yes a classically desined F1 is impossible today


[11-May-20 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean maybe a really good welder could get an old school book and teach himself what would be needed but why when you can use modern manufacturing


[11-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is the Saturn V beat the Space Shuttle, not that it'd be a good idea to try to adapt it to modern techniques.


[11-May-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Space Shuttle was a colossal pile of bad decisions that ruined a potentially decent idea.


[11-May-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also SLS is designed to fail.


[11-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shuttle-derived launchers are universally designed with the principle to use the same suppliers for parts despite those parts being obsolete and a bad idea to begin with.


[11-May-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're also designed to be dangerous and costly and impossible to deliver on time so that NASA both pays the suppliers and cancels the project before it kills anyone.


[11-May-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, SLS is a Rocket To Nowhere.


[11-May-20 02:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Pence giving 'a little distance' to others after staffer tests positive for COVID-19 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/pence-putting-little-distance-after-staffer-tests-positive-covid-19-n1204086

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[11-May-20 02:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Wooooo


[11-May-20 02:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be fun there


[11-May-20 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wear masks or follow the governments own guidelines because that'd make the WH look injured, Trump weak, and massively undercut the whole "it's fine to go out and back to work!" messaging


[11-May-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not really politics but a bit too heavy for main
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[11-May-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> He was pulled over for speeding on a highway last month. A short while later, a truck veered into the lane and ploughed into the officers.
> 
> All four police officers had been standing out of their cars when the refrigerated lorry drove into them and Mr Pusey's Porsche sports car.
> 
> Mr Pusey filmed the scene for over three minutes, during which he zoomed in on certain areas and made derogatory remarks.
> 
> The body camera of Senior Constable Taylor also captured Mr Pusey taunting her as she lay pinned under the truck. Experts say she was likely still alive at the time


[11-May-20 04:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-May-20 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/nikki-haley-used-unsecured-emails-for-classified-info.html

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[11-May-20 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
l-lock her up?


[11-May-20 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
'Standards are dead anyways, do your worst'


[11-May-20 08:28 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s the real email lady


[11-May-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-claim-absolute-immunity-subpoenas-supreme-court/story?id=70576085

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President Trump to claim 'absolute immunity' from subpoenas in Supr...
Attorneys for President Donald Trump this week will ask the U.S. Supreme Court to grant him sweeping immunity from investigation by Congress and local prosecutors.
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[11-May-20 10:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, I guess this will really be the test to whether Trump has packed the SCOTUS sufficiently to usurp basic comprehension of the constitution


[11-May-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The "they were unfair to me so they gotta recuse" excuse is a new one on me, though


[11-May-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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> Armed Black Panthers show up to the neighbourhood of the two men who lynched black man Ahmaud Arbery

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[11-May-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can hear the police choppers, APCs, and legislators furiously screaming about "respecting legal authority" from all the way over here


[11-May-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
coin flip on "gun control"


[11-May-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We can't allow just any thug to carry a military style weapon and intimidate honest god-fearing americans!


[11-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[11-May-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-May-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Behind his bakk. To his face, they'd make vague arguments about personal responsibility.


[11-May-20 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's finally doing another press briefing


[11-May-20 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No zingers yet


[11-May-20 11:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, there we go


[11-May-20 11:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lockdown is causing more death from suicide and drug overdoses than from the virus


[11-May-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now he's pretending the "optimistic" model of 60k death he touted a month ago never existed


[11-May-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We're now at the lowest of the low


[11-May-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sad part is I think people will forget this all by November


[11-May-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Vague accusations of Obama being a criminal "What crime are you accusing him of" "You know the crime, everyone knows the crime, it's in the news, not yours new you're fake news"

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[11-May-20 11:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Trump trying to sweep covid-19 under the rug by November could be combatted with a very simple ad campaign: "Hey remember that relative of yours who DIED?"


[11-May-20 11:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
by then, I think we'll have reached the point not of herd immunity, but at least of herd inescapable reality


[11-May-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem: those ads won't run on FOX NEWS, and user targeting means they won't show online to people that don't already question Trump


[11-May-20 11:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, that's *real* easy to circumvent


[11-May-20 11:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
All you gotta do is stir drama about the attack ad


[11-May-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
FOX won't run the ad, but they'll run a segment about how terrible the ad is


[11-May-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, "if people want to get tested they can get tested" "absolute, easy", dated to today


[11-May-20 11:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if all you give them to work with are Trump quotes and the message "Someone you know died because he said this," well, what can they take out of context


[11-May-20 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While nurses still complain they can't get tested themselves


[11-May-20 11:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Better yet, split-screen the quotes and the reality


[11-May-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He just realized he had a racist gaffe and then bitched out


[11-May-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Asian reporter asked why he keeps comparing stats with other countries when american's are still dying so why does it matter, he responds with "Why don't you ask China that question?", she asked him if there was a reason he was responding to her with that completely unrelated thing, he panics, calls for another reporter, than quits before she can even step forward when he realizes she's with CNN


[11-May-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing, truly presidential


[11-May-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anderson cooper's face is gonna be something to behold


[12-May-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[12-May-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Are you fucking dumb? https://districtherald.com/gov-cuomo-calls-coronavirus-european-virus-during-briefing-zero-reporters-in-the-room-push-back/

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Gov. Cuomo Calls Coronavirus ‘European virus’ During Briefing, Zero...
Cuomo did not receive any pushback from the press over his strange label.
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[12-May-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
You fuckshit


[12-May-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fair play.


[12-May-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Until the US, most people who had it were Italians, not Chinese.


[12-May-20 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
The reserve army of labor strikes again

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[12-May-20 12:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And when it *did* hit the US, to our knowledge, you were way more likely to pick it up from an old white couple who'd been on a cruise or vacation somewhere than you were some random asian-looking person. Because old white people love going on cruises.


[12-May-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/anne-sacoolas-wanted-interpol-red-notice-harry-dunn-death-a9508886.html

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The 42-year-old can now be arrested if she leaves America
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[12-May-20 12:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
technically, we're a member state of interpol, but I guess interpol and everyone else knows *we're* not gonna arrest her


[12-May-20 01:19 AM] illumnious#7938
hm let me guess, President fuckery having a fucking meltdown right?


[12-May-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah accusing Obama of stuff I guess


[12-May-20 01:24 AM] illumnious#7938
well shiiiiiiit


[12-May-20 01:26 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/rick_hennig/status/1259985491191107585?s=21

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And Trump supporters believe he is an “alpha”. 🙄 His meltdown shows he is a 5 year old child in an obese 73 year old’s body. #TrumpMeltdown 
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[12-May-20 01:27 AM] illumnious#7938
once again people, the president of the United States


[12-May-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one's making him do this lmao


[12-May-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just invite only OANN to these, what's wrong with that?


[12-May-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1259954909467869184

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.@PhilipRucker: You appeared to accuse Obama of a crime yesterday. What did he do?

TRUMP: "Obamagate." 

RUCKER: What is the crime?

TRUMP: "You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody." https://t.co/EUueidNwGp
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[12-May-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, this isn't something a public official should really be allowed to do.


[12-May-20 01:42 AM] jlun2#8758
Now 1/3 of the population thinks Obamagate is real. Have fun.


[12-May-20 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet there'll be five competing definitions of what crime Obama perpetrated


[12-May-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
it's just another gaslight


[12-May-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/497226-fox-newss-john-roberts-rips-abcs-jonathan-karl-on-mask-shaming-tweet

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Fox News's John Roberts rips ABC's Jonathan Karl for mask 'shaming'...
Fox News's chief White House correspondent John Roberts slammed ABC News's chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl on Twitter after Karl posted a picture of Roberts without a mask prior to the start of President Trump's press conference.
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[12-May-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should be shamed


[12-May-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
>John Roberts

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[12-May-20 02:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
why this man look like bilbo when he saw the ring again


[12-May-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I never read or watched lotr


[12-May-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[12-May-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quiet part out loud


[12-May-20 04:26 AM] illumnious#7938
tonight's trend

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[12-May-20 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuckers can't even spell Obama right lmao


[12-May-20 04:27 AM] illumnious#7938
shiiiiiiiit lololololololol


[12-May-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
> sacrifice the weak | Reopen
I assume they think they're strong then?


[12-May-20 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656
yes


[12-May-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/bryanadams/status/1259872360930463750

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Tonight was supposed to be the beginning of a tenancy of gigs at the @royalalberthall, but thanks to some fucking bat eating, wet market animal selling, virus making greedy bastards, the whole world is on now hold.… https://t.co/hjUSSWgTT2
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[12-May-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I bet he wishes he was in the Summer of '69 now.


[12-May-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess we know why Jimmy quit and Jody got married.


[12-May-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312239302719438850/708992993272528947/So_Heres_Your_Problem.mp4

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[12-May-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-May-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
You can't make unilateral demands of a PD


[12-May-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Also,

> Cop 1: Should we shoot him?
> Cop 2: Looks white to me
> Cop 1: Drivers License says hes African American
> Cop 2: HES COMING RIGHT FOR US!

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[12-May-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where is the GoFundMe to arrest Elon Musk


[12-May-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1259972905351254017?s=20

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[12-May-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
PissPigGranddad gonna arrest him if the cops don't


[12-May-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
he make look like some normie but volunteered to fight with the YPG against ISIS in 2016


[12-May-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ColleenO_C/status/1260020677911785473

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https://twitter.com/ColleenO_C/status/1260020677911785473
@melizzle71 @bryanadams @RoyalAlbertHall 100%. The compassionate become more so and support their communities. The jerks become bigger jerks and can only care what they have lost.
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[12-May-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
also, that bryan adams dude deleted his tweet


[12-May-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/ZjhOW


[12-May-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
someone archived it though


[12-May-20 09:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bryan Adams is basically one of the most successful Canadian singers ever


[12-May-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Right there with Celine Dion and Justin Bieber


[12-May-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And he threw it away at least partially because he couldn't do another greatest hits tour


[12-May-20 09:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When they payment is due on your 3rd yacht and they've already repo'd your helictopter


[12-May-20 10:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[12-May-20 11:23 AM] Yuri#4154
Can we /ban capitalism pls


[12-May-20 01:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://a.msn.com/01/en-gb/BB13VYeU?ocid=st

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See the moon near Jupiter and Saturn in the predawn sky Tuesday
The moon will make a close approach to Jupiter and Saturn in the predawn sky on Tuesday, May 12, 2020.


[12-May-20 01:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/opening-america-again-will-lead-to-needless-suffering-and-death-fauci-20200512-p54s9b.html

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Opening America again will 'lead to needless suffering and death': ...
Top US infectious disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci will tell the senate that Americans will experience "needless suffering and death" if the country opens up too swiftly.
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[12-May-20 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/12/investing/jobs-coronavirus-consumer-spending-debt/index.html

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Americans create new economic threat with their own savings
Americans are slashing their spending, hoarding cash and shrinking their credit card debt as they fear their jobs could disappear during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200511123301-us-consumers-bracing-financial-storm-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[12-May-20 03:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And so the shaming starts


[12-May-20 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-supreme-court-cases-05-12-20/index.html

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Live updates: Supreme Court arguments on Trump's taxes and financia...
The US Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments on cases about Trump finance documents. Follow here for the latest.
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[12-May-20 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
audio stream of scotus hearing


[12-May-20 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Justice Thomas AFK


[12-May-20 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shocker


[12-May-20 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Geeze, Roberts is testy


[12-May-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
one thing I can virtually assure you: no matter how they rule, those documents are not coming out until he dies


[12-May-20 04:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully after they remove them from his throat after he chokes eating them

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[12-May-20 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus Thomas is such a massive shitbag


[12-May-20 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who is Jesus Thomas?


[12-May-20 05:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clarence Thomas


[12-May-20 05:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude's just been phoning it in forever


[12-May-20 05:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And any time he opens his mouth it's just some cantankerous old conservative grumbling


[12-May-20 06:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-May-20 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
why is that image so blurry?


[12-May-20 06:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
capped it from a stream


[12-May-20 06:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That I think is a camera pointing at a screen


[12-May-20 06:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Conspiracy?


[12-May-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
definitely a conspiracy.


[12-May-20 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
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[12-May-20 06:20 PM] Crow#5457
the fact that someone actually had to go out of their way to make this makes me think humanity doesn't deserve to be saved


[12-May-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[12-May-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
beautiful


[12-May-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm sharing this.


[12-May-20 07:28 PM] Midknight#9798
hmm. *~moves mr adams to the ok-2-pirate list~*


[12-May-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
My understanding of Thomas is that he basically internalized racism against himself so he's afraid to rokk the boat and just wants all the liberals to shut up too about what's wrong so society can slowly grind on.


[12-May-20 07:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's very notable that this new format has resulted in him speaking more than ever before. See, it's not in-person, and justices are called on one at a time to speak or not. Basically, Thomas is acting as a bystander from the classic "point at someone, don't just call for help" experiment *while he's a damn SCOTUS justice*.


[12-May-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ideal conservative SCOTUS isn't all Kavanaughs, it's all Thomases.


[12-May-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
A court that never asks questions, never shakes things up, just sort of gets pressured by society into accepting whatever it says so that liberals can never effect change.


[12-May-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thomas' questions have mostly been "could you expand on that?"


[12-May-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude Thomas' normal behavior is to literally be mute.


[12-May-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Him saying "Could you expand on that?" is Earthshattering.


[12-May-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, this guy is acting like he's a random bystander, but he's a SCOTUS justice.


[12-May-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's mostly just been adding time to other judges' time


[12-May-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
This new format could honestly affect the outcome of cases because of this alone.


[12-May-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/us/politics/supreme-court-clarence-thomas.html

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Clarence Thomas Breaks 10 Years of Silence at Supreme Court
Justice Thomas asked questions from the bench for the first time since February 2006, and just weeks after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia.
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[12-May-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
10. Years.


[12-May-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking hell


[12-May-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He went *10 years* without asking any questions period.


[12-May-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
He only broke it to ask in place of the recently-dead Scalia whether someone was protecting gun rights.


[12-May-20 07:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That was followed by this, 3 years later https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/us/politics/clarence-thomas-speaks-supreme-court.html

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Clarence Thomas Breaks a Three-Year Silence at Supreme Court
Justice Thomas asked questions in the case of Curtis Flowers, who has been tried six times for murder. The court will decide whether jury selection was marred by racial discrimination.
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[12-May-20 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That is one hell of a sweet gig


[12-May-20 07:40 PM] Midknight#9798
well, if all your questions are asked by the other justices before your turn comes up and you don't have time to think of another... 😄


[12-May-20 07:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
does he *write* anything at least?


[12-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
He mostly does concurrences IIRC.


[12-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, he puts his name on somoene else's dissent.


[12-May-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most recently, when Alito dissented saying that AKSHUALLY since many states paywall laws, it's okay Georgia does it.


[12-May-20 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine joining the most select, elite group in the country


[12-May-20 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that fucking kid from college that was assigned to your group project and never did jack shit and missed presentation day is there


[12-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Yes, *argumentum ad populum* is a real thing among conservative SCOTUS justices, again, Thomas and some others believe that SCOTUS' place is not to ever rokk the boat.)


[12-May-20 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is the guy Biden fought for?


[12-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He hates Biden btw.


[12-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the guy who was basically Kavanaugh 0


[12-May-20 07:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden is also the kind of guy to phone in *ad populum* "opinions" but he's a DEMOCRAT


[12-May-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Got accused credibly of sexual assault, but Republicans went "nah" and voted him in.


[12-May-20 07:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now we just wait 4 months for them to deliberate and write up conclusions


[12-May-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note also that Thomas' 2019 silence-break was to discredit the idea that a lawyer was selectively striking jurors mainly for racial reasons, by asking about the 6th trial he did (after the first 4 had only blakk strikings, and the 5th mostly blakk).


[12-May-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was surprising to hear Roberts actually act as arbitrator


[12-May-20 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Given his complete lack of existence during the senate hearings


[12-May-20 07:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh but tsp didn't you hear him say "you're both bad" that one time and then never again


[12-May-20 07:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he did such a good job


[12-May-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well now Trump is safe, no matter what gets overturned.


[12-May-20 07:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Roberts has no need to prevent a "democratic coup" when all they're doing is raking muk.


[12-May-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It felt like he was just staring at an egg timer the whole time and cutting everyone short no matter what


[12-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
He gets to claim neutrality by saying that he was the one who voted that actually, the president isn't totally immune from investigation, just removal and all consequences ever.


[12-May-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Roberts' goal is to destroy liberals but in a way that the average person on the street thinks is the court doing its job in a fair and impartial way.


[12-May-20 07:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gerrymandering? Not our problem, etc.


[12-May-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
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Capitalist crying the end of the[ir] world is par for the course.
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[12-May-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
> you don't need to believe them
too late


[12-May-20 08:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If history's taught me anything, it's that when rich people start worrying about something affecting the economy, then we should do everything in our power to make it happen

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[12-May-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
rich as in millionaires or billionaires?


[12-May-20 08:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At this point, billionaires


[12-May-20 08:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Becoming a millionaire isn't even guaranteed to get you into the 1% anymore


[12-May-20 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there are more folks with a million bucks in this country than some countries have in total population


[12-May-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
the economy is not controlled by the 1%


[12-May-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
or even the 0.1%


[12-May-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
or even the 0.01%


[12-May-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's controlled by the 0.00000000001%


[12-May-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
and they're all old white men


[12-May-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
forever to be replaced by new, old white men


[12-May-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie I need to watch his autobiography documentary, I've just heard it's super self serving and unintentionally hilarious.


[12-May-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2020/04/14/833577679/unicorn-riding-scooter-in-fatal-crash>
> Softbank, whose $100 billion Vision Fund is the world's largest investor in tech startups, is warning of a possible $12.5-billion operating loss, expecting over a dozen of its startup investments to declare bankruptcy.
eh
also this appeared on searching "softbank"
<https://www.businessinsider.com/banjo-ceo-damien-patton-resigns-2020-5>
> Damien Patton has stepped down as CEO of neighborhood watch startup Banjo after court documents connecting him to a 1990 synagogue shooting resurfaced last month.
> Patton testified that he was involved with a KKK group in Tennessee as a teenager, and pled guilty to driving a gunman to a drive-by shooting at a Nashville synagogue at age 17.


[12-May-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[12-May-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_watch

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Neighborhood watch
A neighborhood watch or neighbourhood watch (see spelling differences), also called a crime watch or neighbourhood crime watch, is an organized group of civilians devoted to crime and vandalism prevention within a neighborhood.
The aim of neighborhood watch includes educating ...
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[12-May-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Holy shit hahahaha

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[12-May-20 09:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not seeing the funny


[12-May-20 09:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Useless app


[12-May-20 09:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it's #7 in news


[12-May-20 09:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit


[12-May-20 09:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Done by trumpist


[12-May-20 09:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Anyway here’s today’s trend

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[12-May-20 09:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-12/house-democrats-propose-new-virus-relief-package


[12-May-20 10:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[12-May-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-May-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
We're in that timeline; Clinton did win the election :hopeless:


[12-May-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-11/china-s-wuhan-sees-first-new-virus-cases-since-lockdown-lifted


[13-May-20 12:03 AM] Midknight#9798
oh look. someone was still infectious and now it's had time to incubate again


[13-May-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the alternate timeline where the electoral college was abolished after the 2000 election, Hillary became president and the Coronavirus killed 90,000 Americans. Fox News then said that it was "basically just the flu" and "not as deadly as a war" and said she handled it terribly by saddling businesses with unnecessary responsibility like paid sikk leave, just as the country reopened with experts praising her response as doing what she could after being handed a bad hand by the Obama administration and keeping unemployment from reaching double digits.


[13-May-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/12/21250988/supreme-court-clarence-thomas-free-speech-first-amendment-sineneng-smith

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Clarence Thomas wants to shrink your free speech rights — unless yo...
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[13-May-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, it's actually worse than I was speculating.


[13-May-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas doesn't just want liberals to shut up as in stop suing people for wrongdoing.


[13-May-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
He **literally** wants people to not be able to speak out.


[13-May-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas thinks that people shouldn't be able to get a court to ever toss out an unconstitutional law, merely to say that it doesn't apply for the particular case.


[13-May-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he brings this up now whenever the first amendment comes up. He thinks people shouldn't be able to go to a court and say "hey, isn't this against the first amendment by having a huge chilling effect on speech?"


[13-May-20 12:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SCOTUS be like
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I'm the giant rat that makes all of the rules.
Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAXioRNYy4s
(sub to jerma)
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[13-May-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, he thinks that laws on disclosing political donations should be tossed because then people who donate to organizations fighting to keep gay people from having rights would be known about and pressured to change their views.


[13-May-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He believes in free speech, as long as it's via your wallet, to causes preventing the boat being rokked.


[13-May-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he wants a society of anonymous monetary donations to the ruling party so they can more efficiently oppress groups they don't like.


[13-May-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody allowed to actually talk.


[13-May-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking man.


[13-May-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-May-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something also noted there is Thomas claims he wants to use the Founders' idea of the 1st amendment.


[13-May-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, their idea of it seems to hav been maybe something like "gov't can't make editorial decisions".


[13-May-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Buuuut, they wouldn't've understood it to cover corporations at all, so him saying corporations need Free Speech is incohorent.


[13-May-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man, wouldn't be a Thomas opinion without random references to _Roe_ and progeny


[13-May-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Collaterally, this Court has a tendency to lower the barfor facial challenges when preferred rights are at stake. See, e.g., Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U. S. 833 (1992). This ad hoc approach to constitutional adjudication impermissibly expands the judicialpower and “reduc[es] constitutional law to policy-driven value judgments.” Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt, 579 U. S. ___, ___ (2016) (THOMAS, J., dissenting)"


[13-May-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare people consider some rights more important than others.


[13-May-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“The practices and beliefs of the founding generation establish that ‘the freedom of speech,’” he wrote in his Brown dissent, “does not include a right to speak to minors (or a right of minors to access speech) without going through the minors’ parents or guardians.”


[13-May-20 12:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"New York Times [v. Sullivan] and the Court's decisions extending it were policy-driven decisions masquerading as constitutional law. Instead of simply applying the First Amendment as it was understood by the people who ratified it, the Court fashioned its own "`federal rule[s]'" by balancing the "competing values at stake in defamation suits."


[13-May-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine telling Benjamin Franklin that, sorry, your humorous paper on farting shouldn't be shown to children, and jailing him.


[13-May-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be noted the court has never actually said that minors should be able to access speech.


[13-May-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can see this in how they deal with the law on access of things in libraries.


[13-May-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder how far Thomas would go with some stuff, honestly


[13-May-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, how do you curtail speech to minors without curtailing all speech?


[13-May-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A speaker cannot usually know their audience ahead of time.


[13-May-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Usually it's speech _by_ minors, in schools and the like


[13-May-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
the court has previously ruled that the constitution does not apply to minors in all circumstances... (Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier)


[13-May-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas should be informed of the fact that it was the "policy driven decisions masquerading as constitutional law" that allowed him to get into his current position


[13-May-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course then, he'd launch into a "White liberals are the real KKK" rant or something


[13-May-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but what Thomas is saying is that if you are speaking, you should be curtailed so you only speak to non-minors, if it's something bad.


[13-May-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Hazelwood_ was wrong.


[13-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He basically wants it so that children cannot get political discourse.


[13-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is against political discourse.


[13-May-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think he wants to be like, a judge in 1500s England


[13-May-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, 1500s England was all about "the law is there to get people to comply with the gov't, not to be applied evenly"


[13-May-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, for one of Henry VI's wives, they created a new law that *retroactively* required she tell him about past romances, so that he had a reason to execute her.


[13-May-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Thomas' ideal world.


[13-May-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas never even wanted to be a federal judge, much less a SCOTUS justice


[13-May-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Queen says something against the King, you write a law that says 2 months ago she did something wrong, off with her head.


[13-May-20 12:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The documentary is basically "neener neener been sitting on this seat doing nothing for decades, fukk you white liberals"


[13-May-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think he likes blakk liberals either.


[13-May-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's just less of them.


[13-May-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants people to not talk ill of the government or problems with society in general.


[13-May-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
no shit hazelwood was wrong


[13-May-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
the court was like "akshually constitution is a fuk"


[13-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
part of the reason he is so bitter


[13-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
is because he has been told multiple times, correctly I might add, "What you hate is the reason why you are in the spot you now are"


[13-May-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't believe so, which makes him resent reality, essentially


[13-May-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't even really guess how he would have become a SCOTUS justice in his ideal world.


[13-May-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe there's a universe where the US basically became a pariah state like Apartheid South Africa?


[13-May-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then had a weird truth and reconciliation era, got a black president, and got appointed then?


[13-May-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Implying the US isn't nearing pariah state status already


[13-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, on the subject of terrible decisions, Morse v. Frederick


[13-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one where SCOTUS said free speech doesn't apply to drugs.


[13-May-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Read narrowly, it says that at a school event or anywhere in the vicinity, you can't promote illegal things.


[13-May-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Read more broadly, it establishes a precedent that if the gov't has made a thing illegal, you no longer hav free speech in regards to it.


[13-May-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the very deciding of that thing being illegal creates a "compelling government interest" in it not being promoted.


[13-May-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas of course in that one said basically "wtf guys, you don't need to come up with an excuse, students hav no rights period, *Tinker* was a damn mistake"


[13-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"In the earliest public schools, teachers taught, and students listened. Teachers commanded, and students obeyed."


[13-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's from his concurrence.


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What exactly is someone supposed to _do_ in Thomas' ideal world?


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Form a corporation to promote your rights?


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The corporation then bribes senators.


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the good ol' days.


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of the early 1800s.


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So imagine like a union that you pay membership dues to


[13-May-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except no rights unless you're part of the union


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
the union fights for societal rights


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you aren't allowed to individually.


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it's like a union, but against the gov't.


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, that's how unions work. The union fights for you


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but you get rights regardless.


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that, you *can't tell the gov't it's wrong* without the union.


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or they "fire" you.


[13-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Out of a cannon.


[13-May-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas is of the opinion though that Miranda is unnecessary because you should be able to sue a cop as an individual for violating your rights


[13-May-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it's weird.


[13-May-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also doesn't think Mexicans can sue American police.


[13-May-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that if their rights are violated, tuff shit.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks the only way you can protest is money.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funneled thru corporations or lawyers.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he thinks those lawyers should target individual actions or people.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the gov't's laws.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Corporations like the kind his wife owns, and lawyers like him.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm.


[13-May-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically in his ideal society, the only way to win is to be a rich guy.


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even rich guys can't protect the poor


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
because a decision wouldn't be able to strike out any part of any law ever.


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would only be able to say that the one rich guy is exempt this time.


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pay2Win rights.


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surprise constitutional mechanics


[13-May-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you COULD funnel money thru a corporation to change legislation to get new privileges.


[13-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which would then cover the poor too.


[13-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, since there's no principles about fairness in his world


[13-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
in practice the poor would be written out of protections.


[13-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentiall in Thomas' world, a gay couple is wealthy, so they sue to be able to marry. Nobody else is allowed to gay marry because of this.


[13-May-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can then funnel money thru a corporation that makes Congress write a law that says gay marriage is A-OK


[13-May-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alabama can then write law that says "unconventional" marriage licenses cost $30000


[13-May-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's on individual people to sue to get a waiver.


[13-May-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, a rich person couldn't sue for a poor relative to get one, cause no standing.


[13-May-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he'd see any court that says this isn't okay as putting one right above others.


[13-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, Thomas wants 1500s England, but with crony capitalism, @Itsthinking


[13-May-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So 1700s England.


[13-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how much he talks about the founders.


[13-May-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants to hit rewind and go to 1776.


[13-May-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't like all these modern ideas like fair application of the law, or judicial review.


[13-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the conservative position, really.


[13-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to undo all this stuff that makes it so the nobility can't actually be fully recreated by the markets.


[13-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The late 18th and early 19th centuries were the prime opportunity, and that has passed.


[13-May-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, the Gilded Age **wasn't enuff** for them, @Itsthinking


[13-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do the people who want that realize how close the US was to mass armed civil insurrection during several periods between around 1880-1940


[13-May-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Thomas gets replaced by a liberal justice, it's over for conservatives on SCOTUS, btw.


[13-May-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if FDR lost in 1932


[13-May-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By some weird event


[13-May-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
US could've literally allied Hitler.


[13-May-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the thing is like, if Thomas goes away, then the most extreme wing is gone.


[13-May-20 01:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Hillar hated America though, he considered Americans racial worthless


[13-May-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't really matter.


[13-May-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would've been an alliance to take out the Brits.


[13-May-20 01:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
But America has closer ties and culture to england than to Germany.


[13-May-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't matter.


[13-May-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
America fought the Brits before and would've done it again if it thought it was in its best interests for world dominance.


[13-May-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, >caring about race for who to ally in WWII >Germany and Japan were the Axis


[13-May-20 01:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No, America and Britain had been on decent ties since after WW!


[13-May-20 01:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Hitlier considered the Japanese honorary Aryans


[13-May-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The worst you would have gotten with the US and Hitler was neutrality


[13-May-20 01:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah and that's really pushing it


[13-May-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which means a US-Germany Cold War in the 1950s


[13-May-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sea Lion still fails, but Britain doesn't fight back much


[13-May-20 01:59 AM] Sally Moon#4922
America would have still soled material, goods and arms to Britian


[13-May-20 02:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
which would prolong the war for Germany, US and Germany were bound to get into conflict sooner or later.


[13-May-20 02:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> If Thomas gets replaced by a liberal justice
would that happen tho


[13-May-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll be amazed if Breyer and Ginsburg don't tender their resignations on January 20, 2021 at like 3 PM if Biden wins


[13-May-20 02:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I can't believe William Barr chose Trump over the rule of law.


[13-May-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can.


[13-May-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the president's attorney.


[13-May-20 02:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You mean Trump made his personal attorney head of the DOJ?


[13-May-20 02:15 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for the election to get over it annoucing Trump 2020


[13-May-20 02:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm waiting for the opposite. I have faith that Biden can beat Trump, since Trump is beating himself up and irking Democratic voters enough to get them out and start taking voting seriously again.


[13-May-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump made Barr his second personal attorney basically.


[13-May-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barr is his fixer when the first guy can't do it sneaky.


[13-May-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just so happens SCOTUS hasn't yet ruled on a few really obvious things everybody thought were how law worked.


[13-May-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence Barr can pull this shit without the courts doing much immediately.


[13-May-20 02:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
From what I'm picking up on my feed Brett Kavanaugh is acting weird. 
So it has me concerned


[13-May-20 02:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a shill


[13-May-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh was part of the Kenneth Star thing going after Clinton.


[13-May-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wrote stuff saying the president could be gone after for basically any reason.


[13-May-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Later, when he was up for being nominated to SCOTUS, he said the president should be completely immune from all investigation.


[13-May-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Kavanaugh is the judicial form of how Republican Senators handle impeachment: Rules for thee, none for me (party).


[13-May-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
this is Apple Thor isn't it


[13-May-20 02:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It does make it weird that Republicans were going after Obama so relentlessly but now that Trump is in office all of a sudden the President is above the law


[13-May-20 02:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
yeah


[13-May-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apple Thor?


[13-May-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
bloomberg guy from a few months ago


[13-May-20 02:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't know how to change my name on Derpbirooru


[13-May-20 02:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm not for Bloomberg


[13-May-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, given that he suspended his campaign


[13-May-20 02:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes he did.


[13-May-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So basically SCOTUS wants to overrule _Clinton v. Jones,_ right?


[13-May-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
/s


[13-May-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh does, but only for this presidency.


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So absolute immunity for presidents huh


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only for Republican presidents.


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For civil or criminal prosecutions, or even looking into them


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they're Democrats, he'll pursue them himself guns blazing.


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hypo


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What would happen if a suspected murderer becomes president?


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh is one of the scarier justices.


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds great for voters?


[13-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is just plain evil.


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch, Thomas, Roberts, maybe even Alito just want to like, undo a bunch of liberal stuff.


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh would outright enshrine that Democrats aren't allowed to run for office.


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, imagine no pussy grabbing or nepotism


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine they are accused of murder


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] jlun2#8758
is that possible @Nebbie


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Win the presidency


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be with a court of just Kavanaugh.


[13-May-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if a modern Al Capone wins


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar, Its.


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar.


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the late Roman Republic, elected officials were immune from the law for the duration of their term.


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"American Caesar" is a weird trope


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar was involved in numerous conspiracies before his rise to power.


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Especially considering I've only seen it applied to MacArthur, who would never do it.


[13-May-20 03:03 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like an excuse to do as much rape as possible legally

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[13-May-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
At one point, they tried to ensnare him by saying his term extension started before the second term actually did.


[13-May-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And thus that his immunity would run out early.


[13-May-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trouble with Caesar was his coconspirators also got involved


[13-May-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
so it ended up with him and Pompey arguing each other should resign first.


[13-May-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Caesar actually kinda took the high ground after a while and made an argument that he'd be completely willing to actually follow thru if Pompey resigned.


[13-May-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then when the Senate still was just a pile of shit, Caesar just up and invaded.


[13-May-20 03:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Isn't Trump techically a muderder for having that Iranian General assassinated?


[13-May-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would be in most countries.


[13-May-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't has a concept of "preemptive self-defense" for gov't action only.


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means they can assassinate people who might in the future cause the US harm.


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If presidents can't be prosecuted or even investigated for stuff they did prior to office


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they can kill someone on the spot for just being part of a terrorist organization.


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It actually _encourages_ a class of criminals to seek high office


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the person is not taking up arms, and is actively surrendering.


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] jlun2#8758
i'm surprised they dont use that to wipe out everyone south of US by now with that power


[13-May-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
This breaks international law severely.


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the US gov't isn't bound by international law.


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US doesn't care about international law


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Sally Moon#4922
US use to


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To some degree it shouldn't


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US shouldn't be bound by the decisions of authoritarian countries


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the Hague tried to enforce the Geneva Conventons on a US person without US approval, the US is obligated to invade the Netherlands.


[13-May-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's written into US law.


[13-May-20 03:09 AM] jlun2#8758
gop decline too slowly


[13-May-20 03:10 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I felt great shame as an American when Trump and the GOP threatened the UN because Afghanistan filed war crimes against us.


[13-May-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bunch of elections tonight, most important, CA-25


[13-May-20 03:11 AM] jlun2#8758
i just assume by now whatever the result it is conservatives win


[13-May-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
CA-25 is probably a bellwether


[13-May-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was Katie Hill's district before she resigned


[13-May-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was GOP held since 1993 before that


[13-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem for conservatives is that many states they want to keep control of hav direct ballot measures.


[13-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So any given election can completely shatter something they rely on to win.


[13-May-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is likely to go to Biden because ex-felons can vote.


[13-May-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
WI-7


[13-May-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I separately asked top operatives from both parties in Wisconsin for their final predictions just now. Each said Tom Tiffany, the Republican, will prevail by 14 points."


[13-May-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't trust a politician with two first names


[13-May-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
John John


[13-May-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jack Jack


[13-May-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, worse, two surnames


[13-May-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Andrew Andrews etc


[13-May-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Johnson McDonald


[13-May-20 03:16 AM] jlun2#8758
King McDonald


[13-May-20 03:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Why hasn't the US got rid of Gerrymandering?


[13-May-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism.

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[13-May-20 03:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As i say to everything else too


[13-May-20 03:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I read that the conservative Majority on the Supreme court keeps the practice in place.


[13-May-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: Donald Trump. Woke:

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[13-May-20 03:36 AM] jlun2#8758
probably not him?

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[13-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Results in WI-7 so far

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[13-May-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NYT calls for Tiffany


[13-May-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
15% difference, less than normal


[13-May-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
conservative wins inevitably :sad:


[13-May-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"But if President Trump, who won Wisconsin’s 7th by 20 points in 2016, has lost five points off his margin there it will be problematic for his statewide hopes in November."


[13-May-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Tricia Zunker just declared a moral victory by narrowing the margin from 22 points in 2018 to 15 tonight: “We laid the groundwork for this seat to turn blue in November.”

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[13-May-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
X


[13-May-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
X


[13-May-20 04:32 AM] jlun2#8758
so basically trump 2020


[13-May-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wisconsin yes, the district no


[13-May-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still can't believe this is one of my state's reps


[13-May-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-May-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's beyond Karen hair


[13-May-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
pamela hair


[13-May-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Among the top backers of Tom Tiffany are Liz and Dick Uihlein, conservative mega-donors who own a vacation home in Manitowish Waters, a resort village in Wisconsin’s 7th...[Tiffany] got campaign contributions from the PAC associated with Koch Industries."


[13-May-20 04:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always call it rural Texas hair, even though she represents the only blueing district in MO


[13-May-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2016- won by 20 points


[13-May-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2018- won by _4_


[13-May-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The mail voting returns in California’s 25th — and the fact that they lean Republican — seem to contradict President Trump’s contention that voting by mail helps Democrats."


[13-May-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It helps rural areas in general, which is great for Republicans in blue and purple states. It also however helps people who would be disenfranchised due to work or insufficient polling places ([sub]urban minorities), which is terrible for Republicans, especially in red states with blue islands they need to weaken.


[13-May-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it'd mean every state turns a bluish purple.


[13-May-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
76% reporting, GOP will take back this seat.


[13-May-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hill should have never resigned.


[13-May-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess we aren't in a post-sex scandal world.


[13-May-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're at a point where Christian morals about sex and marriage are eroded, except the ones about women just being baby factories.


[13-May-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's the worst of both worlds.


[13-May-20 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hill and Franken are proof the Democrats should adopt how the GOP is, barring absolute proof of sex scandal hurting them or others.


[13-May-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people _don't actually care,_ as bad as that is to say.


[13-May-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People care more about their son being accused of rape than their daughter being raped.


[13-May-20 05:33 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds awful, and potentially alienate voters tho


[13-May-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It "alienates" them with what they'll say in public


[13-May-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It doesn't at the ballot box.


[13-May-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
You misunderstand.


[13-May-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals care, conservatives don't.


[13-May-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals go "Well, maybe Biden is better even with it, cause both rape women"


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives go "Good"


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Democrats adopted GOP tactics, they'd gain conservative votes but lose liberal ones.


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conservatives generally love Republicans anyways so


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would likely be a net loss.


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta accept that most of these things are lose/lose, Its.


[13-May-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, conservatives don't like liberals adopting conservative aspects


[13-May-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no true winning move that just gets you as many votes as Republicans will get in certain conditions.


[13-May-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just hav to change the conditions.


[13-May-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Any left-wing movement or party is in the US is inherently at a disadvantage because of nearly two centuries of being brow-beaten/suppressed.


[13-May-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, you need lots of transparency so people immediately think of Republicans as scummy.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
US left is honor before reason before winning.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
US right is winning before reason, no concept of honor.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It needs to be winning so you can install honor and reason.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are contradictory unless you change conditions.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You continually don't get this.


[13-May-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If conditions make conservatives favored.


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your options are to be racist and sexist elected or not.


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conditions in the US often favor conservatives.


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can either become a Republican or you can lose as a Democrat.


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are the options.


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the people that said within 12 hours of Hillary losing "Democrats will decide that they have to be more racist for 2020, mark my words"


[13-May-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no magic "Democrats win!" button.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you make conditions favor liberals is to show conservatives in scandals by shining a light into their inner workings.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to reveal their dishonesty. Every fukking week. Forever.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't do this **you lose**.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But people get tired of muckraking.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, they don't.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
People get tired of raging.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
People never get tired of hearing about scandals.


[13-May-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
People want every juicy detail.


[13-May-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
People want to be furiously eating macaroni and cheese with their fingers while listening to Nicolas Cage narrate exactly how Joe Biden raped a girl, every hand motion etc.


[13-May-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
What people grow tired of is attakk ads.


[13-May-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't want to be angry all the time.


[13-May-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they want to hear secrets.


[13-May-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you make them angry indirectly by saying "oh yeah big pharma paid to scuttle that kid-saving cure", they will eat up every word forever.


[13-May-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What we've learned in the past year or so is that too many ads can ruin you.


[13-May-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Campaigns of hatred don't work.


[13-May-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
People didn't vote for Trump because they hated Hillary.


[13-May-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They did because they felt left behind


[13-May-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
People voted for Trump because they vaguely understood something bad happened with her, and they had no reason to want her.


[13-May-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Hillary's ads were all sunshine and rainbows and detailing how she'd save children from dying with better healthcare, people would've voted for her a lot more.


[13-May-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Something bad happened with her" that importantly, they wouldn't do themselves


[13-May-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of them absolutely would.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't quite get it.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't vote against her because they understood it.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Use a private email server as Secretary of State? I doubt it.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They voted against her because they didn't.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude, people are lazy as fukk


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ahhhhh


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
90% of the population would use their gmail instead of the correct thing.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People understand Biden's alleged nepotism or sexual harassment


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The email thing just confused people?


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-May-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They weren't sure how things were set up or why or what servers even are.


[13-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
All they knew was that it could leak classified info.


[13-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they had understood, they'd go "well I'd do that..." and move on.


[13-May-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was so much in the news cycle, and it was such a technical thing both in the rules and what it was, that a lot of Boomers just heard it as HILLARY LET ENEMY KNOW SECRETS


[13-May-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone understands "he fingered her on the Senate floor"


[13-May-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ironically, Boomers voted against Hillary because they *would* make her same mistake, Its.


[13-May-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it was a tech mistake that they know is bad.


[13-May-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they're too dumb to realize they'd be doing the same thing from being dumb.


[13-May-20 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's like replying all, but to the Chinese"


[13-May-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dunning-Kreuger.


[13-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, I must reiterate


[13-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
LIBERALS DO NOT WORK LIKE CONSERVATIVES FOR WHAT KIND OF PERSON THEY VOTE FOR


[13-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will **not** get any more votes by Democrats just not replacing people who've been credibly accused.


[13-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people involved will still lose.


[13-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to replace them is that it will stem the losses and in the long-term, allow them to rebuild.


[13-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
As opposed to having bigger losses now and much bigger losses down the line when more comes out.


[13-May-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the politician equivalent of a tourniquet.


[13-May-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It might kill the limb, but that's better than bleeding out.


[13-May-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would hav absolutely worked in the 70s btw.


[13-May-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Before the Southern Strategy took hold, there wasn't strong conservative/liberal filtering by party.


[13-May-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that with two directly opposing ideologies in *how to even think about the actions of others*, you can't just replicate the successful tactics from the other side while staying on your side.


[13-May-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, if Dems could win without liberals (which is basically what you're suggesting), Hillary would've beaten Trump by a landslide.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're not in that world.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems can't live with just progressives or liberals, they need both.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans apparently don't need their moderates.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also correct.


[13-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They need independents who are mildly swayed.


[13-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People even moderately on the right side of central tend to be A-OKAY with literally raping kids to death, as long as those kids are female or blakk.


[13-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people don't heavily look into things, because Republicans hav set it up so the news cycle is a constant source of anger.


[13-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notably, anger without explanations.


[13-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN will report on kids dying, but not talk about why or how to fix it.


[13-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This makes people tune out the news.


[13-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, indirectly the amount of shit Republicans do acts as a smokescreen so average voter Joe has no clue how bad they are.


[13-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Investigative journalism could fix this, but it's often slow.


[13-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, Independents go "looks the same to me, didn't Obama deport people too? 'Concentration camps' must be an exaggeration"


[13-May-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that will only get worse if Dems do as you suggest and stop removing people over credible allegations.


[13-May-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, it helps that Dems don't tend to do things nearly as bad. Though it's primarily because they know doing bad things means the end of their career I suppose


[13-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It helps, but not enuff.


[13-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, to fix this, you need conservatives' crimes, and their spicy details, constantly in the news.


[13-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need them to drown out the purely negative headlines as well.


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The headlines need to be about the shady shit going on, and the investigations, *not* random stuff just going "yeah the pollution is bad"


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's much more important to say "the pollution was caused by this Republican you can vote against"


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
...then people would tune out the fake news and go on with their lives.


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
and vote who they voted before.


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents would not.


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a double-edged argument.


[13-May-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want spicy details.


[13-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
People *love* to read about how people are under investigation and such.


[13-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the end results they usually don't like.


[13-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
To sway Independent voters, you need to lay tons of crumbs of secrecy and suspicion.


[13-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that no matter when they look, the start seeing something and just wanting more and more of it.


[13-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they tend to lean conservative a lot recently.


[13-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative outlets are planting random little conspiracy seeds all over the place, and the Republican party controls the DoJ.


[13-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can go "hmm, maybe this virus was grown in a lab..." etc.


[13-May-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And this is what the fight in SCOTUS right now is about.


[13-May-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are on the verge of finding stuff that could lay out Trump's crimes bare for the public to gawk at for months.


[13-May-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know that they'll decide for Trump.


[13-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they do, it would completely break people's trust in SCOTUS and lead to the next Democratic administration completely pakking it.


[13-May-20 06:16 AM] jlun2#8758
Teflon Trump


[13-May-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they'd probably go and outright try to come up with a way to force conservative justices to retire.


[13-May-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh is a lost cause, probably Gorsuch too.


[13-May-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The lynchpin is Roberts.


[13-May-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he rules for Trump, his name will be there in the history books as one of the "Shill 5" or such.


[13-May-20 06:18 AM] jlun2#8758
our Majesty, Lord, and Savior, Donald Trump!


[13-May-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, ruling against Trump here, after completely playing ball with Republicans in impeachment, would go perfectly for his "I tried to be neutral but Congress won't do its job so what can you do?" image.


[13-May-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wants his image to be "I was the last Chief Justice of a nonpartisan court and totes tried to stop partisanship guys"


[13-May-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he rules for Trump, he declares himself to be partisan.


[13-May-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's too blatant.


[13-May-20 02:04 PM] illumnious#7938
What a jackass

Trump ignores new warning signs in push to reopen the country https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-ignores-new-warning-signs-push-re-open-country-n1205446

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Analysis: Trump ignores new warning signs in push to reopen country
Analysis: White House task force documents show testing, access to medical gear and treatments are still works in progress as the president declares victory.
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[13-May-20 02:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://news.yahoo.com/in-court-filing-fbi-accidentally-reveals-name-of-saudi-official-suspected-of-directing-support-for-911-hijackers-224555851.html

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EXCLUSIVE: In court filing, FBI accidentally reveals name of Saudi ...
The FBI inadvertently revealed one of the U.S. government’s most sensitive secrets about the Sept. 11 terror attacks: the identity of a mysterious Saudi Embassy official in Washington who agents suspected had directed crucial support to two of the al-Qaida hijackers.
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[13-May-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
> “This shows there is a complete government cover-up of the Saudi involvement,” said Brett Eagleson, a spokesman for the 9/11 families whose father was killed in the attacks. “It demonstrates there was a hierarchy of command that’s coming from the Saudi Embassy to the Ministry of Islamic Affairs [in Los Angeles] to the hijackers.”
> 
> Still, Eagleson acknowledged he was flabbergasted by the bureau’s slip-up in identifying the Saudi Embassy official in a public filing. Although Justice Department lawyers had last September notified lawyers for the 9/11 families of the official’s identity, they had done so under a protective order that forbade the family members from publicly disclosing it. 
> 
> Now, the bureau itself has named the Saudi official. “This is a giant screwup,” Eagleson said.


[13-May-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
it can't be understated how much of a colossal fuck-up this administration is


[13-May-20 03:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, it was an inside job after all?


[13-May-20 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The US has been shielding SA for ages over everything


[13-May-20 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't really think of a single thing SA could do that the US, any administration, wouldn't cover up or just flat out shrug and allow


[13-May-20 04:12 PM] illumnious#7938
> So, it was an inside job after all?
@Эᴚ|∫  well shiiiiiiit


[13-May-20 04:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, yes/no/cancel?


[13-May-20 04:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[13-May-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/ken-paxton-sends-letter-warning-bexar-county-san-antonio-of-unlawful-covid-19-orders

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State says San Antonio pandemic orders unlawful
SAN ANTONIO - The state of Texas is warning Mayor Ron Nirenberg and County Judge Nelson Wolff their local coronavirus orders are unlawful.  Attorney General Ken Paxton said the orders are superseded by order put in place by the state of Texas, and could confuse residents of Be...
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[13-May-20 04:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trends

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[13-May-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-trump-pushes-cdc-to-dial-down-covid-death-counts

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Team Trump Pushes CDC to Dial Down Its Death Counts
The president and members of his task force are skeptical of the numbers and want the methodology changed.
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[13-May-20 06:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIM3hkxsuck

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[13-May-20 06:06 PM] Sunnyside#3103
this video raises some good questions. are the people right or wrong in their arguments. and how do you define the purpose of goverment?


[13-May-20 06:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A someone sain on forum once politics could be defined as: Poly - many, tics - bloodsucking parasites.


[13-May-20 06:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-w_T-t8aM

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Peter Griffin government speech
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[13-May-20 06:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The perfect purpose - country administration. Actual purpose - ruling.


[13-May-20 06:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
"The Great Rebel Barbers of Lockdown Philosophy"


[13-May-20 06:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Please tell me this is not saying that people reopening barbershops in the midst of a deadly virus sweeping the country is a good thing.


[13-May-20 06:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Remote controlled barbers, like surgeons


[13-May-20 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Looking at comments first, someone's pointing out the guy thought "barber" and "hairdresser" were gendered terms in the vid.


[13-May-20 06:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's just completely incorrect.


[13-May-20 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barber shops are primarily about cutting hair, while hairdressers mainly change the shape of the hair.


[13-May-20 06:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is 0 gender restriction in that.


[13-May-20 06:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A quick question, why not make a complete haircut, if no one is going to see?


[13-May-20 06:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping up appearances to follow the correct path is a conservative thing.


[13-May-20 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
jfc, this vid


[13-May-20 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
10 seconds in and he's clarified what the first part of the title means


[13-May-20 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He follows "What is the purpose of government?" with "Why even have it in the first place?"


[13-May-20 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is absolutely an Ayn Rand motherfukker, isn't it?


[13-May-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember how I said "we should ban Matt Christiansen videos" a while back


[13-May-20 06:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
He then goes into asking whether the Bill of Rights is a good idea.


[13-May-20 06:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm chekking thru it right now. If the comments are any indication, his argument is just the usual "gov't should be solely for the military to keep foreigners from taking your private property"


[13-May-20 06:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Less than 2 minutes in, here it is


[13-May-20 06:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
before jumping to conclusions first finish the video. no one is making you agree with any of the arguments presented. but I think it's a interesting video to spark discussion and thought.


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying that because of the declaration of Independence talking only about the *pursuit of* happiness, that the gov't *shouldn't provide* things necessary to achieve happiness, only protect ways to get to them.


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a video to spark discussion and thought.


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a guy laying out his radical beliefs as a tertiary source.


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i found it interesting and thought provoking


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because you agree with it.


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> what is the point of government?


[13-May-20 06:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i didn't say i did or did not.


[13-May-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To allocate resources to needed sectors of society to ensure it can survive


[13-May-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's not asking a question.


[13-May-20 06:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's answering the question.


[13-May-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or else man falls back to the Hobbesian natural state


[13-May-20 06:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i never quite understood ancaps and overall anarchists. Whenever they lay out their ideal structure of what society should look like, it's always a government, and thus, a state lmao


[13-May-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wow


[13-May-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, this vid is absolute shit.


[13-May-20 06:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He brings up an example of some shitty women who defied lokkdown to reopen early


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
and talks about Whoopi shaming her for the danger she caused as if Whoopi has committed the worst sin possible.


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk this guy with a rake, honestly.


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This sounds like typical youtube zoomer politics


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, this is Boomer politics.


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clickbaity, etc


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is saying that we should celebrate people who stand up to reasonable limits on exposing the public to dangerous shit.


[13-May-20 06:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
he's not blaming whoopi. he's questioning the argument whoopi gave.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't say he was blaming Whoopi.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok, lord semantics


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he isn't just questioning the argument she gave.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He said she was shaming the person involved.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way he said she was doing the shaming implied he very much disliked her doing so.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
sounds like semantics


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's further DEMANDING that Whoopi apologize.


[13-May-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh fukk off.


[13-May-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is literally saying Whoopi should apologize for asking someone else to apologize for endangering the public.


[13-May-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is saying it's a greater sin to ask people to maybe not endanger the public


[13-May-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
than to endanger the public.


[13-May-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk him with a rake.


[13-May-20 06:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying we should endanger the public so business owners can get more profits.


[13-May-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i've no qualms about claiming a majority of these anti-lockdown people are part of a corporate astroturf


[13-May-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No way this shit is organic


[13-May-20 06:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's evidence that the protests are, but this isn't about that, @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is about capitalist shitfukks who reopen early cause muh profits


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
and putting them on a pedestal as leaders of a rebel cause against the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Die for the line, et al


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only that they themselves don't want to die for the line


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They want democrats and socialists to die for it


[13-May-20 06:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying if you ask someone to apologize for causing others to die for their profits, *you* are the one who must apologize,


[13-May-20 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Scum of the worst kind.


[13-May-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's further mad that the gov't had to giv a handout.


[13-May-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks that it's bad for the gov't to act like a mother to its people.


[13-May-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd rather it be an abusive parent you can't get emancipated from.


[13-May-20 06:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
That just makes sure nobody else can adopt you.


[13-May-20 06:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's not at all what he's arguing for


[13-May-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cope


[13-May-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then tell me what you think his argument is on that matter, in one sentence.


[13-May-20 06:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop just insisting I've misconstrued it and present something.


[13-May-20 06:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
his argument is that someone like the government can be too protective and impede the rights and safety of people in the name of safety.


[13-May-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
But he's also arguing that it's not the role of the gov't to provide for you **at all**.


[13-May-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He makes statements to that effect multiple times before he talks about putting individual rights above overall protection of society.


[13-May-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Further in, he's making the classic conservative "people, not systems" argument.


[13-May-20 06:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying that if a person reopens their business, it's unfair to blame them for doing so, when it's people going to that business as consumers that creates the risk.


[13-May-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's saying the blame is solely on consumers.


[13-May-20 06:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it fair if employees contact disease and die?


[13-May-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he's arguing against orders to close businesses **period** because he doesn't care about the best way to stop people from dying.


[13-May-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks if people die, they die, and it's their own fault.


[13-May-20 06:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
People like this, need to get sick.


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's further making the argument that if you should stop consumers coming to these places, you hav to police every single possible interaction people could hav, or none.


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
not at all. he's arguing that people can use their own judgement and provide precautions to protect themselves and their clients.


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a contradictory claim.


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is not an issue of individual resolve, Psker


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Sunnyside#3103
again agree or disagree but that's his argument


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pandemics don't discriminate between people


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is claiming both these things.


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the same argument as to vaccines


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And again, that's conservative bullshit


[13-May-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
he's saying we should individually blame people who fail to provide protections for workers and their consumers


[13-May-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyone who refuses to abide by these sanitary precautions is putting society at risk


[13-May-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
rather than shut the problem down to begin with by closing businesses altogether


[13-May-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Closing businesses altogether will always result in greater protections


[13-May-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
because in practice there will always be shitty capitalist fukkwits like the ones he is celebrating.


[13-May-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
(who I guarantee you are not going to play it super safe)


[13-May-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Matt Christiansen is saying quite clearly that it's okay if people die, as long as it's someone's fault.


[13-May-20 06:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that instead of *fixing* the shit that makes it so people get the virus and die, we should just shame whoever in particular's fault it was.


[13-May-20 06:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i really don't see that as his argument


[13-May-20 06:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then why is he demanding Whoopi apologize?


[13-May-20 06:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because whoopi is arguing that she may have infected people and put more strain on medical stuff. despite no evidence being shown that had happen


[13-May-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whoopi's argument is that she should apologize for creating the *potential* to increase infections.


[13-May-20 06:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not that she for sure caused an increase.


[13-May-20 06:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
By concretizing it to only actual known directly linkable causes, you are completely discounting *risks*.


[13-May-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Creating extra *risk* of infection is the thing that has to be prevented, because in large quantities, risks materialize into actual deaths.


[13-May-20 06:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
In small quantities, an individual risk can result in a death or nothing, and it's impossible to know ahead of time.


[13-May-20 06:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
In some cases, it's impossible to even know after the fact, because there's multiple possible risks that could be the cause of the same death.


[13-May-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This guy is basically saying that we shouldn't make parents keep kids inside during thunderstorms, because it's their personal responsibilities to know exactly what to do to avoid getting hit by lightning, and it would be an abridgement of the parents' rights, and that someone saying a parent should apologize for letting their kids out should themselves apologize for demanding such, as the kid *wasn't* strukk.


[13-May-20 06:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In above case it should be advised, but not enforced. There was a warning, you decide the outcome.


[13-May-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
What Matt is doing is confusing results with probabilities.


[13-May-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The coin came up heads, so shame on you for telling the gambler to not bet it all on heads before the coin was flipped.


[13-May-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, we *don't know* what the coin came up, and may never know.


[13-May-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
But still, he's saying unless we can prove the coin came up tails, that it was okay to make the gamble with people's lives.


[13-May-20 06:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] Matt Christiansen is saying it's okay to *gamble* for the sake of the line, with people's lives as chips in a casino known as society, and that as long as you can't be proven to have lost, you should be assumed to win and therefore did the right thing. This is the most capitalist retardation I've ever heard.


[13-May-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nasty-women-weijia-jiang-and-kaitlan-collins-talk-back-and-trump-runs-away

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‘Nasty’ Women Talk Back and Trump Runs Away
One thing we can take from his tiresome attacks is this: When Trump would rather pick on the reporter than answer the question, he’s losing.
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[13-May-20 07:16 PM] byte[]#2610
> ... the people who would swallow bleach for the president love this stuff. They think that by storming off and losing his temper, he’s winning. Trump could end a press conference by pissing himself and the B-level conservative media wannabes would still declare that he’d turned in a masterful performance.


[13-May-20 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People mad that others are getting mad and telling them to wear masks


[13-May-20 08:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is anger now a bad emotion to them


[13-May-20 08:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nytimesbusiness/status/1259368082197397504?s=19

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https://twitter.com/nytimesbusiness/status/1259368082197397504?s=19
Google and Facebook employees were told this week that they could stay home until next year. Capital One said workers will be out through Labor Day and possibly longer. Amazon is saying October. https://t.co/u5phG15btG
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[13-May-20 08:12 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I thought society hates men having emotions to begin with


[13-May-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless those emotions are anger


[13-May-20 08:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anger is acceptable


[13-May-20 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Without anger a lot isn't possible


[13-May-20 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.imgur.com/jh9qPuM.png

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[13-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anger was never a good or bad emotion to them.


[13-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all contextual, Its.


[13-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're mad Whoopi demanded an apology because they think what she demanded an apology for was acceptable behavior.


[13-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think that running a hair salon is good, full stop.


[13-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if running that hair salon will summon Satan, they'd still say it's good, because it's running a hair salon.


[13-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
So getting mad that someone ran the hair salon is the reverse of their virtue signalling.


[13-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
And therefore must be crushed under an iron boot.


[13-May-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want free speech or even the freedom Matt is claiming.


[13-May-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want to hav like, a set list of things that are okay and not okay in a vacuum, applied to all of reality.


[13-May-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And an omniscient omnipotent government that steps in and crushes anyone who says otherwise.


[13-May-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
They really don't like the idea of the gov't changing which things are okay and not okay based on circumstances, nor do they want the gov't to be changing those circumstances itself.


[13-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, someone who refuses to bake a cake for a gay wedding is a hero, someone who runs a barber shop in the midst of a pandemic is a great rebel leader, and someone who in the privacy of their own home has sex with the same sex is a deviant that threatens the stability of society, @Itsthinking .


[13-May-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"There are more places where you can smoke weed legally than refuse to bake a gay cake"


[13-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them, society is the shared code of what is and is not acceptable **and nothing else**.


[13-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't consider "society" to be laws or technology or any of that.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just cultural values.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Laws reflect what the society values, and vice versa


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a loop.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why they get so mad about the law allowing deviation.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
They do **not** care about harm.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ever.


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That quote is something I saw btw


[13-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Harm reduction" isn't a thing conservatives consider to exist.


[13-May-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Harm reduction" isn't a thing conservatives consider to exist.


[13-May-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the "There are more states where you can fuck your dog than marry another man" thing before 2015, except missing a point


[13-May-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the person Whoopi asked to apologize had literally killed thirty people via the virus


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and there was 100% proof of such


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Matt's argument would be that she's not responsible, they are.


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because she's a woman, and _especially_ because she is black.


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think so.


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They didn't say "uppity" but they were thinking it when they got mad at her.


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Another The Talk host who is white is someone Matt called out.


[13-May-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is just about base conservative beliefs.


[13-May-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't believe in quarantines or lokkdowns.


[13-May-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can't.


[13-May-20 09:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That much is very clear


[13-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
A conditional change in behavior is against their ideology.


[13-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Even in the face of Armageddon."


[13-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You read or seen Watchmen, Its?


[13-May-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
no


[13-May-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Each of the main protagonists/antagonists represents a different ethical system.


[13-May-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/497606-justice-clarence-thomas-brings-up-frodo-baggins-during-supreme-court

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Justice Clarence Thomas brings up Frodo Baggins during Supreme Cour...
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas invoked “Lord of the Rings” protagonist Frodo Baggins during oral arguments in a case related to the  Electoral College on Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/thomasclarence_02132020_1.jpg


[13-May-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The elector who had promised to vote for the winning candidate could suddenly say, you know, I'm going to vote for Frodo Baggins. I really like Frodo Baggins. And you're saying, under your system, you can't do anything about that"


[13-May-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dr. Manhattan is Materialism, Adrian Veidt is Utilitarianism, The Comedian is Nihilism, Nite Owl is Virtue Ethics, Silk Specter is Care Ethics, and Rorschach is Deontologism


[13-May-20 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/1260628552866816001?s=19

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Great job to the 10 Democrats who voted *against* the Wyden-Daines amendment that would have prohibited FBI warrantless surveillance of web browser history. Special shout out to Bernie Sanders who didn’t show up to vote. It was defeated by *one* vote.
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[13-May-20 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Feel the bern?


[13-May-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Many Bernie supporters is/were accelerationists.


[13-May-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like


[13-May-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Veidt believes that if nuking several cities will bring world peace, then it's time to stop being pacifist.


[13-May-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Let Trump win a second term, hell, let Trump Jr. be president for eight years after that


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] jlun2#8758
:glowing_eyes:


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Spoilers: ||He does it, winning as the villain||


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dr. Manhattan loses any concept of death mattering.


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because the idea is eventually people will elect a straight up communist, or have a bloody revolution


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Comedian kills people...just because. He doesn't care anymore.


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nite Owl is basically "What would Batman do?" except he's a fat nerd.


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I'm just waiting for GOP to drive more people away. Or has that slowed down?


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] jlun2#8758
Fatman


[13-May-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silk Specter is mostly irrelevant because of love interest issues.


[13-May-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rorschach tho...


[13-May-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rorschach is a piece of work.


[13-May-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He believes all of society is evil.


[13-May-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He never really helps anyone but himself.


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume he thinks he's the exception to everyone is evil?


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
And when confronted with the option to hide a secret or die, he screams for death.


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/large-chunks-of-a-chinese-rocket-missed-new-york-city-by-about-15-minutes/

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Large chunks of a Chinese rocket missed New York City by about 15 m...
China's Long March 5B rocket launched without a second stage.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/GettyImages-1211854948-760x380.jpg


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rorschach is a redditor


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He abides by a strict personal moral code that never allows for any deviation.


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He uses terms like backpill and femoid


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He follows it, but he just thinks people are all evil.


[13-May-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He goes around being an asshole to everyone until he dies.


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's US conservatism.


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thinks /pol/ are just a bunch of toothless cucks


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] jlun2#8758
> femoid
I feel like if I searched what this means I'll get a stroke


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the incel term for woman


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because apparently they just had to have a different word


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] jlun2#8758
stroke time


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
US conservatism is deeply rooted in Deontologism.


[13-May-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Kantianism.


[13-May-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now, Rorschach personally believes you should never lie.


[13-May-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's his big difference.


[13-May-20 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And thinking Lord of the flies was an instructional video


[13-May-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
so does he simply say nothing to prevent lying


[13-May-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rorschach would say Lord of the Flies is the most realistic film.


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, he dies.


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He mostly grunts and tells people he's going to kill them


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He screams at Dr. Manhattan to kill him.


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He#s also turbo edgelord


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's how Rorschach dies.


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, wow really levels of edgelord


[13-May-20 09:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which of course made him an icon and hero for a lot of people


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Despite the novel making it clear he's a massive loser


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The film made it clear too tbh, but people are dense.


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Rorschach is a disturbed man. But he's ironically one of the few that sticks to his beliefs


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He see through all the bullshit and tells it how it is!"


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] jlun2#8758
are his followers mostly white men


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rorschach aside of the prison stuff is just a joke.


[13-May-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus no, he's a little angry bitch


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He stikks to really awful beliefs.


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's male Karen


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That should count for less than nothing.


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Male Karen with a stupid magical mask.


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
so he's a trump supporter hero


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He wouldn't vote for Trump, because voting is for sheep


[13-May-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He would commit arson to DNC headquarters for Trump.


[13-May-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
All while saying it's an "alpha" move.


[13-May-20 09:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Nah. Rorschach had a dim view of all politicians


[13-May-20 09:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Compared them to prostitutes


[13-May-20 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd be super into owning the libs tho


[13-May-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
||prostitutes are my fetish; no idea why ppl keep bashing them||


[13-May-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He would think Trump is the biggest whore, but a useful whore.


[13-May-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd be a breitbart poster


[13-May-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With 30k posts


[13-May-20 09:28 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Well rorschach was raised by his mom who was a prostitute who also abused him.


[13-May-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sunnyside I meant  in real life


[13-May-20 09:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Ah


[13-May-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
People bash prostitutes because they violate Christian ideals of choosing a mate once and forever to make parentage clear for ethnic reasons.


[13-May-20 09:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
So who is it you like in watchmen then nebbie? Is it ozzy?


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, they commit what Christianity sees as a big sin, but without the reason of starting a family to justify it.


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
And worse, they enable it for men.


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The morality and, uh, "quality" of prostitutes varies so wildly


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's too broad a term to have much of a meaning


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, I prefer Veidt.


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Thought so.


[13-May-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nuke New York, but save the world.


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> they enable it for men.
I always had a dim view of men to begin with, so I'm in the belief even if prostitutes don't exist, men will be rapists


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Murdering a whole city for the greater good would appeal to you.


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
(am male btw)


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It appeals to most people


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
There were no other options in the setting really.


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
I also do not want a son whatsoever because of this if I get a kid


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just they don't think "New York"


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US ran by fukking 4th term Nixon.


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They think other cities


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like Beijing or Moscow or Berlin or New Dehli


[13-May-20 09:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I disagree. But that's the what makes the story good.


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] jlun2#8758
4th term Trump


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or other places that are full of people they think are expendable


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of Watchmen is that people like Rorsarch fukk over the planet in the long run.


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't rely on exceptional individuals to save you.


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
My favourite character was actually the psychologist in watchmen


[13-May-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
No big mega billionnaire is going to end world hunger and save the environment.


[13-May-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Continually waiting for them to will only destroy everything when we hav the power to fix it.


[13-May-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a superhero story about why superheros shouldn't exist.


[13-May-20 09:33 PM] jlun2#8758
all the mega billionnaires escaped to mars


[13-May-20 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/29/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit-steven-donziger/

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How the Environmental Lawyer Who Won a Massive Judgment Against Che...
Steven Donziger won a multibillion-dollar judgment against Chevron in Ecuador. The company sued him in New York, and now he’s under house arrest.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2020/01/01152020_intercept_steven-Donziger-2126-1580226145-e1580226220277.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[13-May-20 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
wow


[13-May-20 09:35 PM] ononim#8141
an actual news article


[13-May-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess he should consider him lucky big-oil's hitmen are practicing social distancing

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[13-May-20 09:46 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hungary-roma-segregation-ruling-idUSKBN22O2FK

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Hungarian top court confirms Roma unlawfully segregated, awards dam...
A Hungarian school unlawfully segregated minority Roma students for years, the country's top court said in a final ruling on Tuesday, granting 100 million forints ($310,000) in compensation to the children's families.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200512&t=2&i=1518358166&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG4B1EO


[13-May-20 09:46 PM] ononim#8141
```The Kuria (Supreme Court) case involved an elementary school in Gyongyospata, a town that has been a flashpoint of ethnic tensions in the past.

“The supreme legal forum upheld... (an earlier) ruling which mandated a 100 million forint damages payment,” the Kuria said in a statement. “Students from the Roma ethnic minority were unlawfully segregated and given substandard education.”

The ruling was a “bad decision which upends social peace as it unilaterally and overhwelmingly punishes a whole town for the real or imagined grievances of a minority”, Laszlo Horvath, Orban’s special envoy on resolving Roma issues, told national news agency MTI in a video message. ```


[13-May-20 09:46 PM] jlun2#8758
> social peace
social media exists; there's no peace


[13-May-20 09:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/coronavirus-prison-outbreak.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opinion/coronavirus-prison-outbreak.html
Opinion | Let Our People Go
A letter from inside Marion Correctional Institution is the voice of those locked in cages and discarded during this pandemic.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/13/opinion/13Alexander/13Alexander-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-May-20 10:02 PM] byte[]#2610
if the US "criminal justice" system weren't so inhumane and barbaric, and we reserved prisons for... you know, violent offenders... the prison covid outbreak wouldn't be anywhere at the level at it is now...


[13-May-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Heck, even if we took even moderate efforts to *rehabilitate* offenders in a way that wouldn't just result in recidivism...like maybe working on the factors outside of prison that lead to recidivism...but yes, one key factor involved in recidivism is that the thing they were sent to prison for is still something that'll get you sent to prison if you can't afford to pay your way out of it


[13-May-20 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, parole conditions in many cases are damn near impossible to meet if you lack gainful employment and transportation, two things that are nearly impossible to get if you don't have them if you're on parole


[13-May-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The worst thing a prison can do is rehabilitate a prisoner


[13-May-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That means they stop receiving money to keep them there


[13-May-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they lose slave labour


[13-May-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Best make sure they never get out, and if they do, that they return as promptly as possible


[13-May-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You wouldn't want PRISON CORP. stock options to go down, would you?


[13-May-20 10:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really do wonder... the stock market isn't strictly speaking necessary for capitalism to function


[13-May-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No, but it's a great concentrator


[13-May-20 10:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet every scrap of evidence I've seen suggests that the stock market is utterly divorced from the economy and all it really accomplishes for a company to go public is to get shareholders who ultimately drive the company to abandon core values to appease them with profit margins


[13-May-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony real life is fascinating


[13-May-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
```He's saying that if a person reopens their business, it's unfair to blame them for doing so, when it's people going to that business as consumers that creates the risk.
He's saying the blame is solely on consumers.```


[13-May-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
which would be fair enough, if all the parties involved have a choice.


[13-May-20 10:54 PM] Opponent#3498
the issue here is that, for instance, the workers of the business don't get a choice @Sunnyside


[13-May-20 10:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I do believe that the customers that end up going _are_ responsible if they fall ill though.


[13-May-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
```because in practice there will always be shitty capitalist fukkwits like the ones he is celebrating.
(who I guarantee you are not going to play it super safe)```


[13-May-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yes, it could work in theory, no, it would not work in the reality we're dealing with. Difference of theory and practice.


[13-May-20 11:41 PM] Opponent#3498
```No big mega billionnaire is going to end world hunger and save the environment.
Continually waiting for them to will only destroy everything when we hav the power to fix it.```
Well, Rorschach isn't waiting. He'd also agree with this sentiment.


[13-May-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not a superhero either. No powers but his own iron will.


[13-May-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
if people want to do better, they can, but so long as they don't want to... He'll do his part.


[13-May-20 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
AND a big mega billionaire DID INDEED save the world in the end... If temporarily.


[13-May-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[14-May-20 12:06 AM] Opponent#3498
in fact, I'd say Rorschach is how an everyman fixing things would look like. Limited in intruments and scope, to the crudest and smallest. That's likely why he comes off to some as a loser. He can't thrive in the reality he's given, yet he refuses to simply give up, lay down and die.


[14-May-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and he rejects the definitive solution to his issues. He doesn't understand it, and when he does he refuses to compromise. If he gives up his beliefs, there will be nothing left anymore.


[14-May-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-howard-stern-sirius-xm-radio-us-election-a9511436.html

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Sirius XM radio show host says US president would not let his own supporters inside Mar-a-Lago
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[14-May-20 12:39 AM] Sunnyside#3103
keep in mind unlike some of the other characters Rorschach became a vigilante not because of some childhood nostalgia, not out of expectancy, or some thrill of beating people up, or out of boredom. but because he was appalled by the rape and murder of a woman that he felt people stood by and did nothing about.


[14-May-20 12:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i wouldn't also go so fast to claim veidt to be the good guy either. not only did he wipe out a city, but he murdered bunch of other people including some to slow deaths via cancer. And keep in mind his story parallels that of the man from the black freighter story. so much so that veidt even had dreams about it.


[14-May-20 12:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and even after all he did to change the future at the very end when he asked dr. manhatten, who can see into the future, if he did the right thing. all he can do was give a shrug and say "eh..."


[14-May-20 12:58 AM] illumnious#7938

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[14-May-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
> Rip Capitalism
nah :wheeze:


[14-May-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is more of a lich at this point


[14-May-20 01:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's been that way for over a hundred years. Read Walther Benjamin, nerd.


[14-May-20 01:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
He's all short essays


[14-May-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
"Right-wing Facebook groups threaten to assassinate Michigan Governor Whitmer"


[14-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign-polls/497677-trump-leads-biden-in-15-battleground-states-while-bidens-lead-shrinks

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Poll finds Trump ahead of Biden in 15 battleground states
A CNN/SSRS poll of 15 battleground states found former Vice President Joe Biden trailing President Trump.
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[14-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The 15 states are Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Trump lead Biden in the poll across those states 52 percent to 45 percent."


[14-May-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
yall ready for round 2


[14-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-May-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/an-outbreak-at-a-choir-practice-hints-at-how-coronavirus-spreads

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An outbreak at a choir practice hints at how coronavirus spreads
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) cited a two-and-a-half hour choir practice in Washington state Tuesday as an example of a “superspreader event” and argued that it “underscores the importance of physical distancing, including avoiding gathering in large groups, to control...
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[14-May-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking are you ready for 4 more years of GOP supremecy? :sad:


[14-May-20 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
> "Right-wing Facebook groups threaten to assassinate Michigan Governor Whitmer"
@byte[] 

I'm not particularly partisan for Whitmer but I will declare my home a seperate People's Democratic-Republic if this goes through. Or join a left-wing militia.


[14-May-20 02:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You mean there's a hint that it spreads through the air???? Something we've known since January??????


[14-May-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then a really mediocre socdem Democrat in 2024? Hell yes


[14-May-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
nah it'll be Trump Jr in 2024


[14-May-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah for the GOP


[14-May-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/497671-biden-campaign-official-calls-cbs-correspondent-right-wing-hack-in-deleted

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Biden campaign official calls CBS correspondent 'right-wing hack' i...
The Director of Rapid Response for former Vice President Joe Biden's campaign called CBS News senior investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge a "right-wing hack" in a tweet that was later deleted.
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[14-May-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"SCOOP: Catherine Herridge is a partisan, right-wing hack who is a regular conduit for conservative media manipulation ploys because she agrees to publicize things before contacting the target to ask for comment"


[14-May-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But she's right.


[14-May-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate this timeline


[14-May-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking


[14-May-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden


[14-May-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden would make a pretty good president.


[14-May-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was the anti-Cheney


[14-May-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/USA_Comrade/status/1260220313645862913?s=20

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[14-May-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**DRUGS**


[14-May-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
☠️


[14-May-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A VP chosen specifically because he was likeable but obviously useless


[14-May-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw a quote earlier this week re: why there's no "religious left"


[14-May-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"There are more bronies in this country than there are socialist Catholics."

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[14-May-20 02:09 AM] jlun2#8758
.qa @Itsthinking There are more bronies in this country than there are socialist Catholics.


[14-May-20 02:09 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Itsthinking**:  There are more bronies in this country than there are socialist Catholics.).


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Origin


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1258914852489383938


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
this is somewhat strange because the bible is unsubtle in its socialist tendencies


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"the problem is there's no meaningfully religious left, as i've written ... and even then, i guarantee you there are more Bronies than Catholic socialists"


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
even going on in one part in Acts to full on communism


[14-May-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Televangelists have taken over


[14-May-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
Ikr? Somehow we get prosperity christianity as the conclusion :shrugpony:


[14-May-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Protestantism, and specifically American denominations


[14-May-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most christians just focus on "WE ARE THE CHOSEN ONES" part of scripture


[14-May-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Predestination


[14-May-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking calvinist influences man


[14-May-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then hone in on the little nuggets they can use to discriminate against people they don't like


[14-May-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole "care about others" part is a hilarious joke


[14-May-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wanna get in a time machine to 16th century Switzerland and personally strangle John Calvin to death


[14-May-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And when pressured it's "I care about their _souls_"


[14-May-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because that makes it ok to just execute people en-masse as long as you pray for them


[14-May-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
tbh corrupt their souls


[14-May-20 02:15 AM] jlun2#8758
belief in them was a mistake


[14-May-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A whole lot of people need a reward for not being animals


[14-May-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the belief that souls and the afterlife are a thing is that


[14-May-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a movie about somehow, the afterlife being proven scientifically


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just leads to mass suicides


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's p.f.terrifying thatso many christians are so openly "if you don't believe in heaven then what's keeping you from murdering and raping people?"


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And governments begging people not to off themselves


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, wtf my dude


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize that Heaven isn't like, do whatever you want all day right


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking probably a vocal minority doing it tho


[14-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's supposed to be praying for all eternity


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought heaven was white men only regardless of their actions


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
cries in asian :sad:


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That netflix show, *The Good Place*, touches upon questions like these quite nicely


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Asking a question like that is just outing yourself as someone that would instantly become a fucking monster if the perceived consequences on yourself vanished


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whereas there are attempts by the protagonists down the line to change the traditional heaven-hell system into something more fair


[14-May-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I dont do illegal things regardless becuse ppl yell at me :sad:


[14-May-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon Ask them the Shopping Cart Dilemma


[14-May-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why do you put the shopping cart back in the corral?"


[14-May-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eventually the protags end up in heaven, and they find that the people there have become mentally numbed into brainlessness because of eternal boredom


[14-May-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, seriously, being able to fulfill all your desires instantly and being stuck in this power state forever sounds boring as fuck tbh


[14-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
lmao no video games nor ways to forget stuff


[14-May-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> no video games


[14-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
i played the same games because i forgot i played them


[14-May-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no, heaven portrayed in the show engenders unrestricted free will


[14-May-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I put it back because I had to put a coin in it to unlock it" is the most likely answer


[14-May-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you want to ride in Tokyo with monkeys, you can do it in heaven whenever and however you wish


[14-May-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just any pleasure you desire


[14-May-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
so basically, people can't bring themselves to restrict themselves for self challenge


[14-May-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nope, it's like enabling cheats in Half-Life 2


[14-May-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, the Lancelot dilema


[14-May-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What is pleasure without suffering and challenge to measure it against


[14-May-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How can you enjoy food if you're never hungry


[14-May-20 02:25 AM] Opponent#3498
```And the belief that souls and the afterlife are a thing is that```
it alleviates the fear of oblivion. Christianity in particular was interesting in that it made people _long_ for the release of death.


[14-May-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How can you appreciate a good tasting meal if nothing ever tastes less than great


[14-May-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just saw a commercial for a series that involves people uploading their consciousness to a "heaven" right before they die


[14-May-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
so Friendship is Optimal.


[14-May-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The protagonist is eating breakfast and suddenly he hears "BREAKFAST IS OVER, IT IS 10 AM" and it vanishes from his plate like a video game item


[14-May-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It's not even real food, come on!"


[14-May-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tangentially, I'd bet ONE WHOLE DOLLAR I'm the only person on this server to have read Le Morte d'Arthur


[14-May-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, the episode where Arthur gets the electric chair for killing DW


[14-May-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unexpectedly dark


[14-May-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.polygon.com/2020/5/12/21247992/animal-crossing-new-horizons-switch-capitalism-marxism-communism-tom-nook-turnip-prices

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A Marxist plays Animal Crossing: Why we must eat the turnips
A fun, relaxing game about labor exploitation and the stock market
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[14-May-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"You begin the game as a normal human being, and the in-game economy rapidly turns you into Matthew McConaughey."


[14-May-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God, I wish


[14-May-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
```Eventually the protags end up in heaven, and they find that the people there have become mentally numbed into brainlessness because of eternal boredom
Like, seriously, being able to fulfill all your desires instantly and being stuck in this power state forever sounds boring as fuck tbh```


[14-May-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I'd take this (as well as most other things) over inability to experience anything ever and ceasing to exist as a 'self'. Which is what 'natural order' seems to dictate.


[14-May-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
also, this turns the world into a sandbox. Where _you_ get to define the rules, and however much challenge you want things to be.


[14-May-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
given how many people love deep conversions of already sandbox-y games like Skyrim, that allow for really deep, minute customisation, this concept works.


[14-May-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it really depends on the approach you choose for it.


[14-May-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
and if you can get anything you want, you can swap and compartmentalise memories, among other things.


[14-May-20 02:55 AM] Opponent#3498
there ARE ways to make this work.


[14-May-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/twitter-tells-employees-they-can-work-from-home-forever.html

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Twitter tells employees they can work from home 'forever'
Twitter's acceptance of a mostly remote workforce predates the coronavirus pandemic.
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[14-May-20 03:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Why could they not do that in the first place?


[14-May-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/497687-paul-claims-biden-caught-red-handed-eavesdropping-on-flynn

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Paul claims Biden 'caught red-handed' eavesdropping on Flynn
Sen.
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[14-May-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What exactly did Biden/these people do that was wrong


[14-May-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ask for the names of Americans committing a crime?


[14-May-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do not forget who is claiming this


[14-May-20 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, the level of credibility I give to this man, I wouldn't be surprised if he had made this claim after someone saw Biden reading a newspaper with Flynn's face on the front page - and Biden had turned to the sports section

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[14-May-20 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the man who screamed bloody murder to get the whistleblower's name in the record during the impeachment


[14-May-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind there's a significant portion of Republicans and their supporters who don't think perjury should be a crime


[14-May-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*for republicans


[14-May-20 03:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they will *absolutely* use it to frame an answer that didn't satisfy the lie they were looking for as perjury and they have


[14-May-20 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guarantee you that the overlap between that group and the group that thinks Robert Mueller lied to the Senate is total


[14-May-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if the loss of CA-25 is foreshadowing for November


[14-May-20 04:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
in what way?


[14-May-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP flipped back a District Dems won in 2018


[14-May-20 04:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's certainly possible


[14-May-20 04:07 AM] jlun2#8758
Quite amazing "owning the libs" is a repeatable, somewhat reliable political agenda


[14-May-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Paul Ryan is like one of those moron candidates that place 4th in the Libertarian party conference


[14-May-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except because it's Kentucky and the state IQ averages 70, he managed to become senator

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[14-May-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, what was https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1258914852489383938


[14-May-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
because it's deleted now


[14-May-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is/VLwv6

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[14-May-20 04:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/internet-reacts-to-richard-burr-being-searched-by-fbi-strong-karma-at-work/?utm_source=push_notifications

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On Wednesday, FBI agents executed a search warrant on Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) as part of an expanding investigation into stock trades he made while receiving classified coronavirus briefings. The news quickly blew up on social media, with commenters scorning Burr’s stock deal...
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[14-May-20 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[14-May-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/e8wdH4AMVp0?t=253

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Crashing An Anti-Lockdown Protest
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[14-May-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of stokks is so that new business ideas can get rich people attached to them faster so that in an environment dominated by megamonopolies, it's possible to present a real threat sometimes.


[14-May-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, we fukked over how competition works to begin with, but with stokks, we put in a way for businesses to rapidly accelerate themselves to being viable if they just bend over for others who are leeching off those monopolies.


[14-May-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's detached from the economy as a whole because it's not *about* the economy. It's about rewarding businesses achieving profits and punishing those getting losses, at a ridiculous speed to keep everything focused on super fast short term growth.


[14-May-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, stokks exist so capitalism is unchallengible by things like collectives, @WingbeatPony


[14-May-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stokks make sure that there's some level of innovation going on, they make sure that people are beholden to the rich, and they make sure that businesses are always oriented to immediate gains.


[14-May-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for left-wing religious people, they totally exist. **They're pretty much all Catholic**.


[14-May-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Catholicism is the branch of Christianity that says hey maybe we can go and be honest about the bad shit we did and move on with our lives and you know maybe we should giv to the poor.


[14-May-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, it has a central authority, and a ton of stupid shit about sexuality, but ultimately it's not powerful enuff to go full authoritarian.


[14-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Protestantism is largely groups that believe you are just bad or good from birth, and everyone's contaminated by original sin anyways, so there's no real improvement, everything should just be a rapture to get rid of the bad


[14-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In lieu of a rapture, they're willing to accept simply putting "bad" people in jail for their whole lives.


[14-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, the question "What do we do with [child] rapists?" has two answers in American politics that vary by religion, @Itsthinking:
1. Listen to their promise to never do it again, sweep it under the rug.
2. Chekk whether they're an "upstanding citizen" (white, rich, from a rich family, goes to church, participates in sports, etc.) for whether we should do 1 or put them in a hole forever and toss in food and stuff they can turn into mildly useful goods until we pretend they've "paid their debt to society" (honestly, the most BS capitalist propaganda ever made).


[14-May-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would say that 1 also includes "provide some therapy and maybe consider things like paying the victim's family money", but that's not the MURRIKAN way either way you go.


[14-May-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Victim compensation programs exist


[14-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but in practice they won't do much, or will do it 30 years late.


[14-May-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't the Rapture a very modern concept in how most people see it it


[14-May-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, BS invented by American Protestants


[14-May-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-May-20 10:14 AM] jlun2#8758
googling "rapture" gave me this <https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/12/12/16763230/raptureanxiety-calls-out-evangelicals-obsession-with-the-end-times-roy-moore-evangelical-jerusalem>

<https://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2017/12/raptureanxiety-evangelical-torture-mind/>
> It still makes me sweat because #RaptureAnxiety was such a constant looming presence. I could barely sleep because of it. It could happen ANY time, and if you didn't make the cut, the only way to get a second chance was to be beheaded by The Beast. (3/?)
how is this not making them insane faster

also
> Who would feed my pets? Would they starve to death? Would atheists eat them? 
:ponythinking:


[14-May-20 10:25 AM] byte[]#2610
:ponythinking:


[14-May-20 10:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes, the godless atheists (which make up 30+% of the population) are very much into eating pets

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[14-May-20 11:31 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As for heaven in Christianity, I talked to one of hardcore Christians and he answers to question what do you do in heaven. "Worship the God".

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[14-May-20 11:32 AM] Opponent#3498
that's disappointing.


[14-May-20 11:32 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No one actually knows.


[14-May-20 11:32 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It could be along lines "fate worse than death"


[14-May-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously God installs you as a living stone pillar in his massive temple of people worshipping him forever.


[14-May-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Final Fantasy X rules.


[14-May-20 11:33 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or a living battery.


[14-May-20 11:35 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is obvious that one loses physical body downsides


[14-May-20 11:36 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
An they forget about when they threat everyone with hell. However, the promised pain not necessarily physical.


[14-May-20 02:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[14-May-20 03:45 PM] illumnious#7938
*and I proud to be an American when I least I know I’m free.*


[14-May-20 03:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-May-20 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Kek


[14-May-20 03:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Asshole national anthem https://youtu.be/Ps7xmW-9LXQ

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God Bless the USA - I'm Proud to be an American~ Lee Greenwood Lyrics
Thanks to all the brave service men and women. I hope everyone is proud to be an American. I know I am.
As much as I believe in freedom of speech this is still my channel and I dont appreciate the rude and obnoxious comments I have been reading lately. This song is dedicated t...
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[14-May-20 04:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[14-May-20 04:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is the only good anthem rendition https://youtu.be/EEKzJ7h54Uc?t=274

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEKzJ7h54Uc&start=274
Well There's Your Problem | Episode 26: Transit in the Age of Coron...
This is an emergency podcast where we talk about actual organizing stuff, which it turns out you can do successfully even in a pandemic!

even though as mentioned we've won our main demand, there's still work to be done. here are the links:
Sign the TRU petition, first to supp...
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[14-May-20 04:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder if there is satirical style US anthem? There was one for UK by Sex Pistols.


[14-May-20 04:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hendricks playing the Starspangled Banner is or has been considered a parody


[14-May-20 04:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sounds like a cover


[14-May-20 04:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, urban development politics time https://youtu.be/0lvUByM-fZk

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Cities: Skylines | Power, Politics, & Planning: Episode 1: Parking
Franklin is taking too long to get to the juicy bits. I'm starting a series of short(er) videos to tackle urban issues, in the framework of Cities: Skylines. I hope this will help y'all build better and more realistic cities, but more importantly I hope it will get you thinkin...
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[14-May-20 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/rick-bright-testimony-05-14-20/index.html

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Rick Bright testimony: Live updates - CNNPolitics
Dr. Rick Bright, the ousted director of the federal office charged with developing countermeasures to infectious diseases, will testify before Congress.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200514055755-rick-bright-2018-file-restricted-super-tease.jpg


[14-May-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1260939491520458753

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https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1260939491520458753
A federal appeals court has ruled that a lawsuit accusing President Trump of violating the Constitution's emoluments clause — which bars the president from receiving gifts or favors from foreign governments — can proceed.
https://t.co/261n56ayxP
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[14-May-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Great, another case for the SC to sit on for a year


[14-May-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
scotus is only an edit distance of 3 away from scrotum


[14-May-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-feared-testing-too-many-people-for-virus-would-spook-stock-markets-says-report

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The Financial Times reports that Trump was advised against making too many preparations for the pandemic.
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[14-May-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-May-20 05:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1258154195104018432?s=20

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Andy McCarthy (@AndrewCMcCarthy)
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I actually wore a bandana covering my face, nose down, to go to the bank today. Whole time I'm thinking, 'I've convicted people on less evidence than this ...'
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[14-May-20 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird flex but ok


[14-May-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1258042763976888321

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Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. They got body bags instead.

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[14-May-20 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
technically the truth


[14-May-20 06:16 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1260960242524803072

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Ousted scientist Dr. Rick Bright testifies before House panel
Former US vaccine director Dr. Rick Bright, who filed a whistleblower complaint, is giving a testimony in which he warned, "without better planning, 2020 could be the darkest winter in modern history.” Earlier, US President Trump Tweeted, "to me he is a disgruntled employee."
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[14-May-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Gotta love Florida https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-loving-congressman-accidentally-pushes-to-ban-trump-campaign-spending-at-trump-properties

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MAGA-Loving Congressman Accidentally Pushes to Ban Trump Campaign S...
Rep. Greg Steube (R-FL) tried to troll his colleague, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN). But he may have just ended up targeting the president as well.
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[14-May-20 07:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgxxvk/senate-votes-to-allow-fbi-to-look-at-your-web-browsing-history-without-a-warrant

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The government just got even more power to spy on your internet habits as millions remain quarantined at home.
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[14-May-20 07:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Wtf


[14-May-20 07:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yea Nay?


[14-May-20 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is pretty bad


[14-May-20 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Everybody buy VPN


[14-May-20 07:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] expert is required at deck


[14-May-20 07:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll just pass laws to make VPNs illegal or force them to log everything and comply with requests


[14-May-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
the web has been prepared for this kind of legislation


[14-May-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
dangerous precedent to let it stand, but toothless in practice


[14-May-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
the only information a fully secured browser connecting to a fully secured server will leak to an eavesdropper now is the connecting ip


[14-May-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and you can hide that with cloudflare


[14-May-20 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have heard that agencies around the world learned to crack SSL/TLS


[14-May-20 07:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not sure what is the actual situation.


[14-May-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
RSA is considered rather broken (though the largest key that has actually been recovered so far was 768 bits, and most web properties used at least 1024 bit keys)


[14-May-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
most commonly websites now use ECC with the NISTP256 or NISTP384 standards for DHE


[14-May-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
and AES128GCM or ChaCha20/Poly1305 for the envelope


[14-May-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
none of those have any known practical weaknesses yet


[14-May-20 07:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thank you


[14-May-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think a key recovery attack would be impossible for an agency like the FBI


[14-May-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
But I just don't think they're going to bother


[14-May-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it's impractical


[14-May-20 07:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://xkcd.com/538/

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xkcd: Security
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png
Actual actual reality: nobody cares about his secrets.  (Also, I would be hard-pressed to find that wrench for $5.)


[14-May-20 07:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How is expensive to implement this per user?


[14-May-20 07:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Takes a lot of whacks to wear down a $5 wrench, but you want to parallelize, so depends on the total number of users


[14-May-20 07:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Given that, no law enforcement is responsible for bodily harm done, I bet they could "convince" the "client" to divulge "compromising" material that wasn't there in first place.


[14-May-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does this apply to servers and users from countries outside the USA


[14-May-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Ex-detective-charged-in-death-of-Ahmaud-Arbery-15269309.php

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Ex-detective charged in death of Ahmaud Arbery lost power to make a...
The former police detective whose actions in the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia were defended as a citizen's arrest was stripped of his law enforcement certification and power to arrest a year before the deadly encounter, according to personnel records acquired by ...
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[14-May-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
> The former police detective whose actions in the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia were defended as a citizen's arrest was stripped of his law enforcement certification and power to arrest a year before the deadly encounter, according to personnel records acquired by The Washington Post.


[14-May-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
wow


[14-May-20 09:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Just fucking wow


[14-May-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh and don't forget, the charges he suspected Arbery of committing (because he didn't see it happen, a requirement for citizen's arrest) amount to a misdemeanor (and you can't do a citizen's arrest in GA for anything less than a felony)


[14-May-20 09:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
on top of that, even if the two rednecks *had* actually caught him red-handed committing a felony, they'd still be liable for anything that happened during the arrest. Including shooting the guy.


[14-May-20 09:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And to boot, we don't even know for sure that he was even the guy seen entering the property. I've seen the video. To my eyes, it looks like a different person


[14-May-20 10:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/hkrassenstein/status/1260913766797135872?s=21

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https://twitter.com/hkrassenstein/status/1260913766797135872?s=21
BREAKING:  New Report says that Trump worried that testing too many people would hurt the stock market.

So there you have it;  Trump stalled on testing in order to manipulate the stock market.

End results?

The market crashed and Americans died!
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[14-May-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2781P8mkqc

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UPSET BABY TRUMP
I don't know who made this. But I'm re-posting. It's a little baby Trump. And he's upset. Might need a nap.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K2781P8mkqc/hqdefault.jpg


[14-May-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
and that's why he'll win 2020?


[14-May-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
to be fair, trump didn't actually say to inject disinfectant, he only asked if it was feasible


[14-May-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
also, is there an original for that video without the editing?


[14-May-20 10:55 PM] Opponent#3498
```“Today the Senate made clear that the purpose of the PATRIOT Act is to spy on Americans, no warrants or due process necessary”```


[14-May-20 10:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I love this line, I truly do.


[14-May-20 10:55 PM] Opponent#3498
20  years later, suddenly the realisation hit :wheeze:


[14-May-20 11:05 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/14/us-oil-gas-companies-coronavirus-relief-loan-ppp

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Struggling oil companies are taking advantage of US coronavirus aid
Recent review finds at least $113m in taxpayer-backed loans meant for small businesses have gone to fossil fuel industry
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[14-May-20 11:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-13/what-happens-if-the-president-tests-positive-for-coronavirus?utm_campaign


[14-May-20 11:12 PM] jlun2#8758
has any politician in america died to it at all


[14-May-20 11:13 PM] illumnious#7938
Not yet I think


[14-May-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://ballotpedia.org/Government_official,_politician,_and_candidate_deaths,_diagnoses,_and_quarantines_due_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020

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Government official, politician, and candidate deaths, diagnoses, a...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/SARS-CoV-2_2871.jpg


[14-May-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently no politicians have died to the virus in the us yet


[15-May-20 12:05 AM] Yuri#4154
I know political tests are a meme, but I was bored and decided to take one

http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=2&3=-2&4=2&5=-2&6=2&7=-2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=1&12=2&13=2&14=1&16=2&17=-2&18=2&19=2&20=0&21=2&22=-2&23=-2&24=2&25=2&26=0&27=-2&28=-2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=-2&33=-2&34=2&35=2&36=2&37=0&38=0&39=-2


[15-May-20 12:17 AM] ononim#8141
it become more of the meme


[15-May-20 12:17 AM] ononim#8141
because now I didn't get much that I am actually close to


[15-May-20 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
and apparently one of the free I am closest to rn is fucking ML with 67%??


[15-May-20 12:18 AM] ononim#8141
Tho, it's funny, somoene linked a RightistValues test and I did it for gigles


[15-May-20 12:19 AM] ononim#8141
got Technocrat


[15-May-20 12:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Mine was pretty close


[15-May-20 12:21 AM] ononim#8141
https://rightvaluestest.github.io/index.html


[15-May-20 12:22 AM] ononim#8141
has such lovely axist as "race - equality"


[15-May-20 12:22 AM] Yuri#4154
Oh boy


[15-May-20 12:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was mine, @Yuri http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=0&2=1&3=-2&4=2&5=-2&6=2&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=1&19=2&20=-1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=2&26=1&27=-1&28=1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=-2&35=-1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=0


[15-May-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Result might be obsolete tho.


[15-May-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
New http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=2&2=1&3=-2&4=2&5=-2&6=2&7=-1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=-2&18=2&19=2&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=2&25=2&26=1&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=1&33=-1&34=-1&35=-1&36=2&37=-2&38=2&39=-1


[15-May-20 12:31 AM] ononim#8141
Checked leftist values one, still Eco-Marixist in that meme


[15-May-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like over the last year I've become much more against capitalism and religion, and more in favor of revolutionary change.


[15-May-20 12:33 AM] Yuri#4154
Based


[15-May-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically comes down to less valuing having a good economy.


[15-May-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus being more suspicious of just how much bullshit there is from religion and capitalism tied together.


[15-May-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
this one was mine http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=1&3=-2&4=1&5=-2&6=1&7=1&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-1&12=1&13=1&14=2&16=1&17=-1&18=2&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=1&23=-1&24=1&25=1&26=2&27=-2&28=1&29=2&30=1&31=-2&32=1&33=1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-1&38=1&39=-1


[15-May-20 12:35 AM] Yuri#4154
iirc I got DemSoc last time I took that test (about a year or so ago)


[15-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the Neozapatismo thing is because I've become more skeptical of Republics.


[15-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, in the US nowadays, elected leaders are often really untrustworthy, while ballot measures are often pretty reasonable.


[15-May-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That puts me at odds with DemSoc stuff, since they often value elected leaders, preferring Republics over Democracies


[15-May-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938

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[15-May-20 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
I ma


[15-May-20 01:00 AM] ononim#8141
gonan build a time machine


[15-May-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
and kill Nixon before he's elected President


[15-May-20 01:01 AM] ononim#8141
solely so the new timeline doesn't call all the fucking RL drama something-gate


[15-May-20 01:02 AM] Yuri#4154
>YOMAMAGATE

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[15-May-20 01:02 AM] Yuri#4154
:RemThink:


[15-May-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, reading up on Neozapatismo, it's something Crow probably loves.


[15-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The basic idea is that the community as a whole should storm businesses at gunpoint and make them owned by the people.


[15-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either become a worker cooperative run by the local gov't or become dead.


[15-May-20 01:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
sounds like there would be a lot of rooftop Koreans if that were to happen


[15-May-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to take a guess and say that you mean that rednekk fukkwits would get out their guns to make sure Monsanto maintains control of the local plant, to which I must say that it's **not an argument** to simply threaten violence for someone's position being put into practice.


[15-May-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I'm pretty sure that'd put them in a bit of a bind because if they want no gov't control of their area, and want to control it themselves, that kind of puts them on the side of "Monsanto go home", they've no reason to protect its property.


[15-May-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
he's talking about this https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/roof-koreans

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[15-May-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are storefronts, not large businesses.


[15-May-20 01:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm saying that if someone burst into some local shop saying to join or die. that clerk or store owner would brandish a gun in self defense


[15-May-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neozapatismo just says the local store should be managed in large part by the employees.


[15-May-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, the clerk would benefit.


[15-May-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just not the store owner.


[15-May-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is that the clerk and both stokkers pull out guns on the manager and tell him they need to hav a say in how they work and get a cut of the profits, not just these fukking pathetic things called wages while he gets rich.


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where it becomes the community vs. the business would be stuff that's mostly automated and remote, like a big factory.


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not everyone would join such a revolution even if said revolution was aimed to help them nebbie.


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not, but nobody is going to pull a gun on the clerk.


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The target is the owner.


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is the clerk going to pull out a gun to protect the owner?


[15-May-20 01:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's literally what the rich in the US have spent the past century indoctrinating workers against


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most clerks are going to just run off and go home.


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
to protect their place of work, themselves, and their coworkers which may include their manager or owner


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The place of work isn't in danger.


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
would they know that though?


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're comparing generalized looting from racial targeting during riots to a worker uprising.


[15-May-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure they would.


[15-May-20 01:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
a armed mob comes into the place


[15-May-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way Zapatista stuff is organized, commanders etc.'s primary duty is to educate people on what the hell is going on


[15-May-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
the revolution and its goals would be known about as a possibility well in advance.


[15-May-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
this shit would need focus though.


[15-May-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
and a reasonable command structure or at least leadership


[15-May-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
so it would not devolve into generalised looting.


[15-May-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
wait, you just said that 2 lines above me.


[15-May-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
well, yeah.


[15-May-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let me do this test


[15-May-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/?1=1&2=-1&3=-2&4=2&5=-2&6=2&7=2&8=-2&9=2&10=-2&11=-2&12=-2&13=2&14=2&16=2&17=-2&18=-1&19=1&20=1&21=2&22=-2&23=-2&24=2&25=2&26=1&27=-2&28=-2&29=2&30=2&31=-2&32=2&33=-1&34=1&35=1&36=2&37=-2&38=1&39=-1


[15-May-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it doesn't hav much in the way of command structure, but it has plenty of leadership. Kind of the idea is to focus on commanders for what the idea is, come to consensus, storm places in large numbers.


[15-May-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's how Mexico lost half of Chiapas to socialists.


[15-May-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who I guess still hold that territory?


[15-May-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the reason they're successful is that their ideology is essentially created entirely to bridge the gap between natives and Europeans.


[15-May-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh god, apparently Tony Blair is my political idol


[15-May-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
By rejecting the capitalist dogma that puts European males above others, but in a way that doesn't just giv everything to the natives.


[15-May-20 01:19 AM] Yuri#4154
>Blair


[15-May-20 01:19 AM] Yuri#4154
:NatsuVomit:


[15-May-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your local white male still benefits from it because they get an equal vote to the blakk girl, and a cut of what their local area is producing.


[15-May-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar to my old result, Its.


[15-May-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Natives should be given their own independent states tbh


[15-May-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[15-May-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Independent" states is a rouse.


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just another way to control them.


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that by sectioning them off, they can be denied resources.


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True, Bantustans were technically completely independent


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Confined, where there ideas can't affect others.


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the federal gov't controls the highway system.


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if a highway goes thru native land


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it means the federal gov't has a say in how they can move


[15-May-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
regardless of any "autonomy"


[15-May-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you make the highways not go thru native land, then you deny them of what you giv others.


[15-May-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is lose lose.


[15-May-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The correct thing to do is to actually integrate them into society, and stop trying to oppress them.


[15-May-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the moment you do that under US terms, a company rolls in, buys their land out from under them, and pollutes the shit out of it.


[15-May-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, you must enact local control of resources.


[15-May-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess my result comes from my desire to see the government be a mediator most of the time


[15-May-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't has to also be a provider in some fashion.


[15-May-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This entangles it in how people are separated.


[15-May-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people of a country are all married to each other


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The government should be a marriage counseler


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Except more power


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then don't tell the natives that they should be grounded.


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It shouldn't.


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what you do if you put them on reservations.


[15-May-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you giv them power over others.


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_9FEx7ymg


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
which leftist movement is this song from


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A grounded boy with first dibs on dinner is still a grounded boy.


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
el pueblo unido


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, you can't make the gov't a marriage counselor.


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't is fundamentally the parents.


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_pueblo_unido_jam%C3%A1s_ser%C3%A1_vencido

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/El_pueblo_unido_jam%C3%A1s_ser%C3%A1_vencido_single.jpg


[15-May-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because even conservatives believe the gov't must provide protection.


[15-May-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who livs in your home, has ultimate decision-making authority, and protects you from danger in the home is your parent.


[15-May-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people are not married, @Itsthinking, they are siblings.


[15-May-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
> "¡El pueblo unido, jamás será vencido!" (English: "The people united will never be defeated") is one of the most internationally renowned songs of the Nueva cancion chilena (New Chilean Song) movement.


[15-May-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neozapatismo says that the parents should be tied up in the closet at gunpoint and forced to giv everyone a fair share of what they themselves make, no big brother stealing lunch money and calling it "private ownership".


[15-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm... I guess then the Willoughbys is the metaphor for what Neozapatismo thinks.


[15-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neozapatismo

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Neozapatismo
Neozapatismo or neozapatism (sometimes mislabelled as zapatismo) is the political philosophy and practice devised and employed by Mexico's Zapatista Army of National Liberation (a.k.a. the neozapatistas or zapatistas), who govern a large territory in Chiapas and have done so s...


[15-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also says that all the non-load-bearing walls in the house should be DEMOLISHED


[15-May-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
> Neozapatismo appears to have been influenced by libertarian socialism, libertarian Marxism (including autonomism), social anarchism, anarcho-communism, anarcho-collectivism, anarcho-syndicalism, communalism, direct democracy, and radical democracy.


[15-May-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
>radical democracy


[15-May-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
😎


[15-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also in case you havn't noticed, @Itsthinking, when you giv special privileges to native tribes, what usually happens in a US system is they build casinos etc. to make money, which doesn't benefit them enuff to raise the tribe out of poverty because the wealth is too concentrated to readily disperse, and often, land is slowly sold away to the state meanwhile, making the problem worse.


[15-May-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism's structure is incredibly corrupting and tends to utterly ruin any plans to improve people's conditions.


[15-May-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is simply very bad for people to take their land and "develop" it in a way that hurts them, while enriching you and not them.


[15-May-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what the Keystone XL pipeline controversy was really about.


[15-May-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
America builds infrastructure without considering those who liv next to it.


[15-May-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, infrastructure benefits people, but it often benefits people only where it delivers things, not along the way, and that's a problem.


[15-May-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this way, pipelines are not like roads.


[15-May-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roads deliver along themselves, which means they benefit along the way.


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any town a road runs by will benefit.


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What the natives have now is better than what they had during any time the US existed, and that is incredibly sad.


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A pipeline tends to go for long stretches without delivering.


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, the town I'm in


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
```The idea is that by sectioning them off, they can be denied resources.```


[15-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
was America's source of copper during most of the 20th century.


[15-May-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what we got in return for winning World War II?


[15-May-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
it also offers them opportunity to screw up horrifically like some african nations in mid-20th and become a living meme against native independency.


[15-May-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Take a guess.


[15-May-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
so this clearly isn't a good idea.


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
People often act like the best approach in Africa and the Middle East is to just draw borders by culture, but I think that's completely misunderstanding the problem.


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is inequal power-sharing, not a lakk of agreement.


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
On most issues, people will be pretty fine with things if you just giv them an equal say.


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
We got the largest EPA superfund site, @Itsthinking


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Nebbie the resource was mined with little positive outcome for locals?


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
an entire section of the town was destroyed.


[15-May-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav the largest toxic lake in North America.


[15-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also hav the main source of the Mississippi utterly rekt


[15-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The EPA is only now close to making things okay.


[15-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been 40 years.


[15-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that toxic lake is still rising.


[15-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has some multicellular life btw capable of surviving in it.


[15-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really interesting to scientists, that such exists.


[15-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes geese land in it briefly because the stuff to keep them out isn't enuff. See, all the toxic stuff lowers the freezing point of the water to like -20 F or something.


[15-May-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
what's in it


[15-May-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
copper salts?


[15-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arsenic, iron, copper, sulphuric acid, and a few other things.


[15-May-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
ah arsenic


[15-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The geese die within hours, due to their organs falling apart.


[15-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and the economy of the town is dying.


[15-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the jobs left when the mining shut down.


[15-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses are closing one by one.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
All we've got is tourism and a college.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
Your town is butt :3


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hm. Joburg was build next to a gold mine. They been mining pretty for long time and closed a mine. 
Ground waters take over and fill up the shafts, the water already began rising to the surface in some parts of town... it is not just a water, it is acid generated by biochemical process.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But people who graduate from said college don't enrich the area.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They go to other states to work.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mining is REALLY BAD for water, yes.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really bad.


[15-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that stuff it exposes just creates conditions you don't get from surface rokks with water.


[15-May-20 01:45 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And according some reports, it corrodes skyscraper foundations...


[15-May-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah concrete isn't a big fan of water with acid in it.


[15-May-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The acid can wear down the concrete


[15-May-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
then the water rusts the rebar.


[15-May-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whole structure falls apart.


[15-May-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think there are too many skyscrapers in Butte


[15-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Butte has a lot of problems


[15-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really big crack problem in Butte


[15-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Butte's just full of disease

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[15-May-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
well, now I understand you a little better Nebbie.


[15-May-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
that place is a reasonable contender for shittiest place on Earth.


[15-May-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
not the strongest one of course, but that doesn't matter.


[15-May-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie that sounds like "good" inspiration for writing/drawing if you ever do more


[15-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The shittiest hill on Earth, formerly the richest hill on Earth.


[15-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty good line to remember.


[15-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Yes, "The richest hill on Earth" is the town slogan.)

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[15-May-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/5Va_XXoD5LE

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[15-May-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcegduzhdE and a bit more

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[15-May-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
tldr?


[15-May-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
autism speaks is an abomination of an organization, who says they're supporting causes to help children with autism, then treat it like a horrifying disease that must be eradicated, going so far as funding dangerous treatments run by psychopaths


[15-May-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
AS is basically the reason "autism" became a chan insult


[15-May-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UgLnWJFGHQ they put out shit like this as well on tv and youtube

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I Am Autism commercial by Autism Speaks
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[15-May-20 02:41 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[15-May-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the above 2 videos are actually very informative


[15-May-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
too slow on the pacing


[15-May-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
needs more evidence too, lot of opinion interjected


[15-May-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
probably won't link this channel again


[15-May-20 02:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Problem with spectrums is people will usually focus on the worst part of the spectrum and apply it to the whole.
I experienced this growing up in school. Being put in classes with people all across the spectrum was annoying. one of the people I was in class with would have a meltdown over the smallest things. one girl insisted on having naps. a few just never stopped talking. A couple others like myself just stayed silent every day just getting through it.


[15-May-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjWGQyFjbo how's this video?

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[15-May-20 03:20 AM] byte[]#2610
>Commissioner of Mental Retardation

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[15-May-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52668124

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US bible study 'Zoombombed' by child abuse
A hacker took over worshippers' computers and played 'sickening' images of child abuse, the suit says.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/E9D8/production/_111746895_060944527.jpg


[15-May-20 03:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How are people still using Zoom


[15-May-20 03:24 AM] Honahue#0656
doesn't zoom have a bunch of invasive bs that lets people see what you're doing on the other side


[15-May-20 03:25 AM] Honahue#0656
so your boss can make sure you're working


[15-May-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[15-May-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though they removed some
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000538083-Attendee-Attention-Tracking

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As of April 2, 2020, we have removed the attendee attention tracker feature as part of our commitment to the security and privacy of our customers. For more background on this change and how we are...
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[15-May-20 03:28 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Oh shit, you caught us so we are morally obligated to remove this now"


[15-May-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd basically record every meeting attendee and track what applications were in focus, where on the screen, and where their eyes were looking


[15-May-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So people could make sure everyone was "paying attention"


[15-May-20 03:29 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>track applications in focus


[15-May-20 03:29 AM] Marukomuru#8409
God forbid I start up Notepad


[15-May-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
VALORANT.EXE HAS DETECTED A HACKER


[15-May-20 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"Johnson, I noticed you're using your internet browser during our meeting?"
<"You literally just posted a link in the meeting, Mark"


[15-May-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I ran zoom in a sandbox


[15-May-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
had to use it for school


[15-May-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope they will use something different in the fall


[15-May-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
@prism stryder(intexda) right off the bat this seems to be a much higher quality video, thanks


[15-May-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Our exec producer randomly started a team meeting on zoom late March, I used a work VPS going through a VPN because sod all these random webshit apps


[15-May-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Company IT was *pissed* that they weren't consulted about that meeting


[15-May-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, the IT dept. are usually really quiet, don't rock the boat, just reply fast with smiley faces to every request


[15-May-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they let rip on the exec producer in the open over it


[15-May-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] something I wouldn't think of doing. I really need to get on with the times.


[15-May-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
you probably don't have my experience, which is also important in knowing that you should sandbox apps, lul


[15-May-20 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
fair.


[15-May-20 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/AndyMorrison_DN/status/1260995547500068867

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https://twitter.com/AndyMorrison_DN/status/1260995547500068867
Pikachu holds an AR-15 at a demonstration against @GovWhitmer's executive orders. #COVID19 #michigan @detroitnews
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[15-May-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"PIKA PIKA I WANT TO FUCKING DIE FOR THE LINE"


[15-May-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
Pikachu gave up on electricy and now uses lead


[15-May-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a generally superior approach anyway.


[15-May-20 04:29 AM] Marukomuru#8409
These Pokémon League battles are getting out of hand


[15-May-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
pokemon go shoot...up the governor's office?


[15-May-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
:ponythinking:


[15-May-20 04:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Pokémon Go To The Polls No That's Not What We Meant


[15-May-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pikachu, use LARP!


[15-May-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still better than Sword/Shield


[15-May-20 04:37 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno, I watched a Nuzlocke playthrough of Sword/Shield and it seemed fun, if easy even with Nuzlocke rules


[15-May-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/710700141845151845/97422694_10216969757015805_3910941599911116800_n.png

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[15-May-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird thing is that Biden says this to not enrage people online, but knows that the youth vote is basically useless and always has been.


[15-May-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't hurt to cover your bases this way


[15-May-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
so, the question is why not.


[15-May-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The youth vote _arguably_ helped Obama


[15-May-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it was also _2008_


[15-May-20 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
meanwhile
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1261126114799468549

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1261126114799468549
Thank you to all of my great Keyboard Warriors. You are better, and far more brilliant, than anyone on Madison Avenue (Ad Agencies). There is nobody like you!
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[15-May-20 02:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/UlsterNY/status/1260693122624950272

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Ulster County Government (@UlsterNY)
https://twitter.com/UlsterNY/status/1260693122624950272
⚠️ PUBLIC HEALTH NOTICE ⚠️ 

@UCDeptHealth announced today that a Kingston barber who has been providing haircuts during the last few weeks at a barbershop on Broadway has tested positive this week for the COVID-19 virus.
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[15-May-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[15-May-20 04:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/funder/status/1261258572823965697?s=21

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Trump’s gonna lie about vaccine development in the rose garden at noon today. He doesn’t even have a basic plan in place, let alone a testing strategy. Both are urgent. We aren’t getting a vaccine this year. So this is nothing more than another twisted PR stunt. #TrumpHasNoPl...
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[15-May-20 04:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52671814
Shut Up Doc. 🇬🇧

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Doctors 'told not to discuss PPE shortages'
One NHS doctor tells BBC Newsnight he was told by managers at his hospital to "stop causing a fuss".
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[15-May-20 04:33 PM] illumnious#7938
Lockdown protesters shout 'be like Sweden' — but Swedes say they are missing the point https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/lockdown-protesters-shout-be-sweden-swedes-say-they-are-missing-n1207566

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Lockdown protesters shout 'be like Sweden' — but Swedes say they ar...
"The Swedish strategy is very much relying on the individual’s trust in the state," one Swede told NBC News.
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[15-May-20 06:07 PM] Crow#5457
> For Swedish entrepreneur Vendela Ragnarsson, it is irresponsible to apply a strategy that Swedish authorities introduced as a proactive measure to slow down the spread of the infection to a different country and situation.
> 
> “I would describe these Republicans as turncoats,” Ragnarsson, who lives in Stockholm, says.
> 
> “You run the risk of sacrificing a large proportion of low-income earners and others who do not have adequate health insurance,” she says.
> 
> All Swedes have access to health care regardless of their income or ability to pay, and lifting a lockdown in the country would not leave the poor much more vulnerable to disease.


[15-May-20 06:07 PM] Crow#5457
and even then, sweden's death rate is over double the US's


[15-May-20 07:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/05/08/covid-19-layoffs-take-toll-women-people-color-and-young/3094964001/

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Historic layoffs take biggest toll on Blacks, Latinos, women and th...
Job losses sparked by the coronavirus pandemic are rippling across lines of class and race, but women, people of color and the young  bear the brunt
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[15-May-20 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/710903347044941824/EQSRcS7XUAAuEGi.png

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[15-May-20 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
reminder


[15-May-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Good luck with that
Trump hopeful to have vaccine by end of year
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/15/president-trump-to-speak-about-vaccine-development/

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Trump hopeful to have vaccine by end of year
President Donald Trump is holding a news conference Friday in the Rose Garden to provide an update on the development of a COVID-19 vaccine.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/iCdFKwX9rAeXrPldyXDtuF5YvJ0=/1280x720/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gmg/Y6SAHQNGTFGZBG4Q46L4367WRI.jpg


[15-May-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
not a white male rip me @employment stats


[15-May-20 07:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that this is a man who said vaccines were linked to autism


[15-May-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/coronavirus-whistleblower-bright-issues-stark-vaccine-warning-we-don-t-n1207056

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'Americans need to be told the truth': Ousted whistleblower unloads...
Bright said there's no plan to mass produce and distribute a vaccine and warned of the need for a comprehensive national response heading into the fall.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_20/3349806/200514-rick-bright-se-1154a_994c5e5d2c4d539667f5dc6db20cb44c.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[15-May-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
there is no plan for this


[15-May-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
trump is lying


[15-May-20 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
> On developing a vaccine, Bright warned lawmakers that even if one could be ready, there's no strategy for mass production.
> 
> "If you can imagine the scenario this fall or winter, maybe even early next spring, when the vaccine becomes available, there's no one company that can produce enough for our country or for the world. It's going to be limited supplies," Bright said. "We need to have a strategy and plan in place now to make sure that we can not only fill that vaccine, make it, distribute it, but administer it in a fair and equitable plan.
> 
> "We do not have that yet, and it is a significant concern," he said.


[15-May-20 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-May-20 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[15-May-20 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/nvp65hbo6wy41.jpg

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[15-May-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit, this is the digital activism I asked was possible but was told it wasn't feasible


[15-May-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie @byte[]


[15-May-20 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wwdw/ohio-has-stopped-kicking-workers-off-unemployment-after-a-hacker-targeted-its-website

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Ohio Has Stopped Kicking Workers Off Unemployment After A Hacker Ta...
The state is reconsidering its policy after a hacker released a script that automatically submits junk data to its 'COVID-19 fraud' website, which allows employers to report workers who refuse to work during the pandemic.
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[15-May-20 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
not really "hacking", but whatevs


[15-May-20 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
> The anonymous hacker previously told Motherboard they created the script as a form of direct action in support of working people. Ohio is among several states that have prematurely reopened against the advice of health experts, forcing many workers to return to their jobs and put themselves at risk of contracting the deadly virus.


[15-May-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
"hacker"


[15-May-20 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cut some slack for when they do something good


[15-May-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
also, I linked <https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/710903347044941824/EQSRcS7XUAAuEGi.png> in another server, someone there said it was "left wing propaganda", so I linked the video


[15-May-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
they aren't replying to me


[15-May-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cas2wXZz1PE&t=185

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cas2wXZz1PE&start=185
Klepper Asks Trump Supporters: Who Won the Impeachment Fight? | The...
Are Trump supporters proclaiming victory in the impeachment fight? Jordan Klepper heads to Trump’s Iowa rally to ask them. #JordanKlepper #TheDailyShow

Subscribe to The Daily Show:
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[15-May-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
for reference


[15-May-20 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-feared-testing-too-many-people-for-virus-would-spook-stock-markets-says-report

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Trump Feared Testing Too Many People for Virus Would Spook Stock Ma...
The Financial Times reports that Trump was advised against making too many preparations for the pandemic.
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[15-May-20 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus fucking christ, kushner looks like slenderman


[15-May-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also
>tie reaches to his pants


[15-May-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Revolting


[15-May-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
he looks like he never gone outside more than a few minutes a week


[15-May-20 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OK, no, seriously, I think that's a shop


[15-May-20 09:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks like something out of a bad yaoi manga


[15-May-20 10:05 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1261219097427283968?s=19

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https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1261219097427283968?s=19
British Broadcasting Comrades
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[15-May-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
now they'll patch it to appease the land~~lords~~gods


[15-May-20 10:07 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/15/trump-left-american-leadership-vacuum-for-china-to-fill-column/5191108002/>
lol

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[15-May-20 10:26 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/05/12/moscow-migrants-coronavirus/

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Half a Million Migrants in Moscow Have Lost All Sources of Income
Photo by Sergei Lantyukhov for NEWS.ru Study: Half a Million Migrants in Moscow Have Lost All Sources of Income Sociologists say government should introduce social security for foreigners, otherwis…
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[15-May-20 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
that sounds like a recipe for revolution


[15-May-20 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
people not spending all their time working to barely survive are gonna have a whole lotta free time to think about how shitty stuff is


[15-May-20 10:28 PM] Crow#5457
and maybe how things shouldn't be so shitty


[15-May-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
that sounds like a recipe for~~ revolution~~ mass incarcerations and wantom police brutality as the majority of the population pretends to look elsewhere


[15-May-20 10:29 PM] ononim#8141
that sounds like a recipe for ~~revolution~~ mass incarcerations and wantom police brutality as the majority of the population pretends to look elsewhere [2]

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[15-May-20 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
I think you missed the ~~strikethrough~~


[15-May-20 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
\~~strikethrough\~~


[15-May-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
how bad is anti-immigrant sentiment in Russia?


[15-May-20 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
probably worse than america, there seems to be little to no consideration for non-citizens by the government


[15-May-20 10:33 PM] ononim#8141

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[15-May-20 10:33 PM] ononim#8141
russians, going on about how they defeated fascism, while treating the people who were part of the same country that fought Nazi Germany like subhuman and reacting to anyone even vaguelly asian looking like they've been exposed to biohazard lab garbage dump


[15-May-20 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
at least the US pays lip service to equality


[15-May-20 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
even if it rarely follows through with its big words


[15-May-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/710957645040975982/image0.jpg

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[15-May-20 11:04 PM] jlun2#8758
> turns out it's his grandma
doesnt make it better for me


[15-May-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get this, why does his landlord being his grandma change anything?


[15-May-20 11:06 PM] jlun2#8758
"family" makes it fine?


[15-May-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://districtherald.com/antifa-activist-goes-viral-bragging-about-lawsuit-against-landlord-for-demanding-rent-turns-out-its-his-grandma/

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Antifa Activist Goes Viral Bragging About Lawsuit Against Landlord ...
Goodrich locked his Twitter account after it was revealed that his landlord is his grandmother.
https://districtherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/biden-1000x600.jpg


[15-May-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
I can't find any information about this site, I'm confused


[15-May-20 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
can't find out what state/country it's based in, can't find out what its bias is, etc


[15-May-20 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's kinda suspicious that there's so little information about this site


[15-May-20 11:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well it's masked as being in Panama and the domain's registered through NameCheap


[15-May-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't make any sort of generalizations based on that whois


[15-May-20 11:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
though it *did* strike me as interesting that namecheap accepts bitcoin as a payment method


[15-May-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
bitcoin is not as anonymous as some people would like you to believe it is


[15-May-20 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
certainly not


[15-May-20 11:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it does strike me as interesting because even *godaddy* doesn't accept bitcoin to register domains


[16-May-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It being his grandma makes conservatives hate it more.


[16-May-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it shows him not swearing fealty to family.


[16-May-20 12:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, some of them might support rugged individualism trying to not pay your landlord, but they can't get behind further violating the hierarchy of the family.


[16-May-20 12:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
plus it makes him look like even more of a loser 'cause the flipside of that coin is he's only a couple stereotypes removed from "living with his parents"


[16-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, some rando got mad and made a huge wall of text in that server because I posted that image of the trump supporter not caring if trump blocked witnesses, and then had the gall to back it up by showing the actual video


[16-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
said that the whole thing was probably a fake setup


[16-May-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/mo9BqzTnmB?amp=1

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J.C. Penney, Pinched by Coronavirus, Files for Bankruptcy
J.C. Penney filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, becoming the latest retailer to seek a court restructuring during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://images.wsj.net/im-186214/social


[16-May-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
bazinga


[16-May-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3hT8kS0hts&t=90

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Cegorach, The Laughing God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3hT8kS0hts&start=90
Warhammer 40k Cegorach Short - Slapstick and Stolen Jokes
This is a clip from episode 25 of the YT video series 'If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device' by Bruva Alfabusa, which can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuWCgyDBQo&t=9s

Alfabusa's Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/alfabusa
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3hT8kS0hts/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-May-20 01:23 AM] Crow#5457
**[ B A Z I N G A ]**


[16-May-20 01:27 AM] jlun2#8758
searching "Sears" gave
https://www.propublica.org/article/sears-headquarters-was-supposed-to-turn-a-sleepy-suburb-into-a-boomtown-it-never-happened

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Sears’ Headquarters Was Supposed to Turn a Sleepy Suburb Into a Boo...
To lure Sears into a Chicago suburb, officials crafted the largest tax break package ever awarded to a company in Illinois. It resulted in revenue shortfalls, disappearing jobs and unexpected tax burdens, a Daily Herald and ProPublica review showed.
https://assets-c3.propublica.org/images/articles/_1200x630_crop_center-center_82_none/20200417-Sears-Day-1-OG.jpg?mtime=1586804176


[16-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8321793/Boris-declares-war-fat-PM-ditches-nanny-state-worries-demands-action.html

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PM ditches his 'nanny state' worries and demands action
Mr Johnson is convinced he had such a tough battle with Covid-19 in part due to being significantly overweight. He's told senior advisers that it left him determined to lead a public health drive.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/15/02/28412868-0-image-a-105_1589504441491.jpg


[16-May-20 02:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and in this moment bojo was smarter than Trump will ever be


[16-May-20 02:09 AM] jimm#1439

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[16-May-20 02:10 AM] jimm#1439
found on the official party website


[16-May-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found a prediction that mirrors mine, almost

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[16-May-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Beware the Blue Hook


[16-May-20 03:01 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
too optimistic


[16-May-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
@jimm welcome


[16-May-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blue claw.


[16-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Piercing towards Tennessee.


[16-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once Texas flips, it'll be like the blue spike trap.


[16-May-20 03:02 AM] jimm#1439
thanks


[16-May-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mississippi will be the only red state bordered by red states and no blue.


[16-May-20 03:04 AM] jimm#1439
if the democratic party wasn't so dumb on guns they'd flip a lot more votes


[16-May-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
neither mainstream party has a consistent position on guns


[16-May-20 03:05 AM] jimm#1439
repeal the NFA and disband the ATF


[16-May-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
California's much-decried "leftist" gun policy was created by Reagan and the NRA when the Black Panthers armed themselves and stood in front of the state gov't building as a warning not to mess with them after police beat up a blakk guy.


[16-May-20 03:07 AM] jimm#1439
that's true but it's still generally just one party pushing gun control


[16-May-20 03:07 AM] jimm#1439
biden's proposals are crazy


[16-May-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
disband the NRA and gut-and-rewrite the ATF


[16-May-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the NRA has basically become advocates for the polar opposite of what the organization was founded to do


[16-May-20 03:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie sounds racist, but how feasible would it to spend tons of money getting guns to non whites and pay them to just to protest in front of government buildings to get guns banned everywhere?


[16-May-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
zero dollars


[16-May-20 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
is it racist in itself, or is it taking advantage of racism, or would it just backfire tremendously (thousands of black men killed/imprisoned, no change happens)


[16-May-20 03:09 AM] jimm#1439
https://i.redd.it/qx9nfyw31qk41.png

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[16-May-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, these days, if you're spending money to astroturf, you're doing it wrong


[16-May-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
well you might need a few bucks for domains and shared hosting


[16-May-20 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, but we're talking hundreds to thousands, not fractions of a million or more


[16-May-20 03:11 AM] jimm#1439
if it wasn't for this I might've voted for biden but now I'm just gonna vote for amash to help send a message


[16-May-20 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You already sent your message and it's just as effective as voting for amash is


[16-May-20 03:13 AM] jimm#1439
the libertarian party is the fastest growing party and recently got a seat in congress


[16-May-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The libertarian party is a joke


[16-May-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They might as well just be republicans except they've made life hard for themselves


[16-May-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Growth doesn't mean anything when the system is, and will remain, two-party


[16-May-20 03:14 AM] jimm#1439
they're the only party with consistent principles, besides maybe some other 3rds I'm not familiar with


[16-May-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you really believe in what you're saying, then you should be focusing on helping them to grow in congress


[16-May-20 03:15 AM] jimm#1439
parties have overtaken incumbent parties in the past in the US


[16-May-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because that's how you deal with a president who proposes some ideas that have merit but others that should be rejected


[16-May-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unlike the current president, I believe the president should not be able to unilaterally propose and pass laws


[16-May-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians' "conistent values" are that the gov't should stop making things better period.


[16-May-20 03:16 AM] jimm#1439
libertarian is very far from republican on drugs, sex work, immigration, lots of things


[16-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348242526542626820/711021011465928804/PKspYdH.png

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[16-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to pull out of the UN


[16-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They may say they support "legal" immigration, but in practice that's the same lie as Republicans.


[16-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The part that doesn't get mentioned is that it would be virtually impossible to immigrate.


[16-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
(unless you're rich)


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Seize the means of gun ranges and mutual aid https://socialistra.org/


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] jimm#1439
the important thing to me is individual rights


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole trap is to say "legal immigration good, illegal immigration bad", then to make it harder to immigrate legally.


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Libertarians are just republicans but somewhat wackier and not as cartoonishly evil (because they have no power that is)


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare is a right.


[16-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are Libertarians gonna make sure I get mine?


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or am I going to continue to exist in a world where if I'm hit by the bus, I survive but become a blakk hole for my family's resources?


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You have a right to pay a private, unregulated doctor to get whatever you want done to you


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://beinglibertarian.com/trump-most-libertarian-president/

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https://beinglibertarian.com/trump-most-libertarian-president/
Is Trump the 'Most Libertarian' President in Half a Century? - Red ...
"I will very likely not be supporting or voting for him in any upcoming election. However, it’s nice to revel a little bit in the fact that the US has become ever so slightly freer than it was a couple of years ago. We can’t have it all right now, but Trump has definitely done...
https://i2.wp.com/beinglibertarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/151025111221-trump-thumbs-up-1021-full-169.jpg?fit=1600%2C900&ssl=1


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
So abortions too, right?


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Enough cash and you get all the fentanyl you want


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, duh


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even after the third trimester.


[16-May-20 03:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1261361542383239169

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https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/1261361542383239169
SPACE FORCE FLAG
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Twitter


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Space Force logo is such a takky ripoff of Starfleet's.


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They left off all the good design elements.


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
c'mon, at least Pence helped hold up the flag in *his* photo with the thing


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] illumnious#7938
ew tho


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump here might as well be cardboard


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol we've never had a way of getting more than seven people in space at a time


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, lines with separately-flat-shaded sections to do pseudo 3D? It looks like a dumb GPS arrow.


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What will a space force do


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shoot down satellites remotely.


[16-May-20 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
break UN regulation


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And make sure nobody shoots down ours.


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of you know, signing treaties that say no shooting at or from the satellites.


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we get a far side of the moon telescope?


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean far side.


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally the very existence of space force as proposed violates those treaties that already exist


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it wouldn't be any better really.


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lagrange points are much easier to get to.


[16-May-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
We also hav a telescope that's in a resonance pattern with the Moon.


[16-May-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
TESS.


[16-May-20 03:21 AM] jimm#1439
I'd take the tradeoff of suboptimal healthcare for much better individual freedoms


[16-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so poor people die or become debt slaves


[16-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the ones who own them can enjoy freedom.


[16-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the situation we're basically in now.


[16-May-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a really scummy thing to want.


[16-May-20 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the rich people can inject themselves with child blood and homeopathic remedies and hoard chloroquine and so on


[16-May-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
At this point I don't think it's all that *bad* to think landlords should literally be rounded up and hung. Not great (ideally everything would be resolved peacefully), but these are terrible conditions and we can only expect so much of people to be nice; the amount of suffering caused by unregulated capitalism is horrific.


[16-May-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regulation is absolutely necessary and it must be extremely bakkbreaking.


[16-May-20 03:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention epi-pens aren't the only thing that ought to be priced to take advantage of demand. Just look at all the profits lost on ibuprofen!


[16-May-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
(see Johnson & Johnson and Risperdal)


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Devils advocate, what do you need in life that _isn't_ a human right


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, J&J committed a felony.


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
All basic needs should be human rights.


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Entertainment? Love? Happiness?


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Up to and including basic social contact.


[16-May-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Solitary confinement is inhumane btw.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
For many people it's a form of psychological torture.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Besides which, shouldn't it be the freedom of hospitals to choose what equipment they stock their ambulances with


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
We do it because we want to see people suffer as vengeance.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
etc etc


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All basic needs should be human rights and communism is the only way to achieve that imo


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think capitalism can exist, but it must be shakkled.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It must be the thing being enslaved.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's become quite apparent that if you don't enslave things, they enslave you instead.


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say it's like


[16-May-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't and the market must be put in shakkles.


[16-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They must be held at gunpoint forever.


[16-May-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is made shouldn't be based on supply and demand, the goal should be placation of the masses


[16-May-20 03:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
This thumbnail perfectly sums up Trump's thought process on the pandemic

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[16-May-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they take one move towards you, you must shoot.


[16-May-20 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
these are the kind of things you'd be facing if you did away with regulations. Libertarian politicians propose things that expect everyone to act in good faith while acting in bad faith to hide the fact that they're benefitting directly and personally from the things they propose


[16-May-20 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that you will not


[16-May-20 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it *sounds* like you will


[16-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, about J&J **committing a felony by lying to sell drugs off-label to senile people and kids with autism who would develop boobs from it**


[16-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory, that gets you barred from medicaid.


[16-May-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, felony conviction means no more selling your drugs to the gov't period.


[16-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't decided to not charge J&J with the felony they committed.


[16-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And instead charge them with a misdemeanor.


[16-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that J&J wouldn't lose marketshare.


[16-May-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what happens when the gov't is controlled by the market.


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too big to fail is also too big to bring to task.


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can anyone do anything shackled


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
J&J made money overall by lying and cheating the most vulnerable people in society.


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just the gunpoint is enough


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their company should've been **BURNED TO ASHES**


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally, all offices destroyed.


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But no.


[16-May-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're in a system where that only happens to poor brown people.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking if not shakkled, the market will reach around and unload the gun while you aren't looking.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention that congress take full advantage of their privileged positions to make "wise investment decisions"

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[16-May-20 03:30 AM] jimm#1439
replacing management is enough, no need to burn things


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just management.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was basically everyone but the lowest level employees.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey jimm what's your opinion of ajit pai


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
J&J was paying **everyone** to lie and swindle.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only a few employees spoke out, and they got fired for it.


[16-May-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't fix that just by replacing a bit of the top.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to go in and start ripping shit out piece by piece.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is an extreme financial incentive for employees to lie.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because getting fired can make you homeless in this country.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why we need healthcare and food as basic things everyone gets.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that you hav the actual freedom to choose where you work.


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] jimm#1439
there should be some repercussions to the FCC for ignoring all the public comments but I don't know much about pai specifically


[16-May-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that you aren't in practice forced to stay with your current employer.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FCC didn't just ignore public comments.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ajit Pai is the head of the FCC who pushed for the repeal of net neutrality


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They ignored clear evidence in Verizon's own legally-binding statements to investors.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They astroturfed hard too


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ajit Pai is a former Verizon employee.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is abundantly clear he's nothing but a shill.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, his main argument (that the FTC already covers it) has been literally disproven in court.


[16-May-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FTC does not cover it.


[16-May-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Pai is the definition of replacing management. He is a poster child for regulatory capture. His crowning achievement is deregulation. He is the reality that defines libertarianism


[16-May-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is only the FCC's responsibility to deal with stuff under Title 2.


[16-May-20 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you have any problem at all with the end of net neutrality, then you need to understand that net neutrality was the result of regulation and that the people who were claiming that the reasons given for ending it were false and that the experts who said it'd be anticompetitive were right. Just look at all the bandwidth that miraculously became available during the lockdown. And look at what has happened to internet pricing between the repeal and then - ISPs did exactly what they promised they wouldn't


[16-May-20 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Deregulation counts on people acting in good faith. Which is why people who act in bad faith are the biggest proponents of it.


[16-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want individual rights at the ground level, for the poor and downtrodden, you need to provide safety nets under them and keep those above from throwing them off their tightropes.


[16-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations especially should not be treated as people.


[16-May-20 03:38 AM] jlun2#8758
> Corporations especially should not be treated as people.
I agree, but sounds impossible to do in my lifetime


[16-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are purpose-driven machines which will run without empathy.


[16-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Treating them as people leads to them destroying actual people in pursuit of their goals.


[16-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations weren't treated as people before.


[16-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ask the founding fathers about them and they'd be like "WHAT?"


[16-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wouldn't understand *how* a corporation can be seen as a person.


[16-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations were formed from the idea of charters of business for specific purposes.


[16-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They *only* existed thru said charters, usually for the service of the gov't.


[16-May-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were machines the gov't would make to do things like build ships so it could hav a good navy.


[16-May-20 03:41 AM] jimm#1439
universal healthcare and stuff is good, but the libertarian party's just the only one I could really count on not to take freedoms /away/. the only one where I could be sure vaping or ar-15's or weed or 32oz sodas wouldn't be illegal by the time their term was over. If the democratic party was more like that then that would be great. I'm in a blue state anyway and it's not going to sway it, but what I said is the message I want to help with the voting numbers


[16-May-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the first and last things the Libertarian party would do is to create more Ajit Pais.


[16-May-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would remove regulation saying that companies need more freedom to make money.


[16-May-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were always gay weed Republicans


[16-May-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now most people support gay weed


[16-May-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So they have fuck all to rally for


[16-May-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no fronts on which they could make meaningful changes for actual rights of the people on the ground.


[16-May-20 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have a theory. I call it the "traffic cone theory." Let's say there's a huge pothole on the side of a major road, and it's been there forever, but someone came along and put a traffic cone in front of it. The traffic cone's been hit many times, it's beat up, it doesn't solve the problem, and in some cases it hasn't prevented people from driving straight into the pothole anyway. Someone who lives nearby gets fed up with the unsightly traffic cone and calls on the DOT to remove it. They demand an end to traffic cone usage. If you proposed setting up a line of traffic cones to block the lane or closing the road altogether so road crews could fix the pothole, they'd be outraged. They would rather have the road crews come out and rely on the flashing lights on a dump truck at the scene to be the only thing keeping the road workers safe, or better yet, just fix the pothole and never mind all this barrier nonsense


[16-May-20 03:43 AM] jlun2#8758
gay weed :nut:


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] jlun2#8758
> Someone who lives nearby gets fed up with the unsightly traffic cone and calls on the DOT to remove it. They demand an end to traffic cone usage.
hey boomer


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weed is slowly getting legalized and even Jeff Sessions, who called it the devil's lettuce etc. and reversed Obama's promises to not target it, didn't go after it.


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's what people who call for deregulation are really asking for when they demand an end to regulation without suggesting an alternative regulation or fixing the problem the regulation is there to solve. But where this analogy breaks down is, some of these problems that are regulated can't *be* solved.


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
In legal terms, gay people hav almost all rights except to not be fired over it (there's a SCOTUS case ongoing about whether they hav such)


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you going to do, roll tanks down the streets of Denver to stop it?


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians if they decided on that one would hav to choose between gay rights or business rights.


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] jlun2#8758
meanwhile when I told my parents
"I'm sick of my wrist hurting, I want to amputate it and stop it from happening forever" I'm called crazy @WingbeatPony


[16-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They generally choose the latter.


[16-May-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for gun rights, it's going to continue be the case they are selectively enforced favoring whites.


[16-May-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians would be lining up to pass some kind of "reasonable limit on firearms" if the people in Michigan's state house with assault rifles were blakk.


[16-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
(personally I'd say it's completely unreasonable for people who aren't the state's own security forces to be bringing weapons into the capital building)


[16-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There is no reasonable limit


[16-May-20 03:47 AM] jimm#1439
I don't think that would happen with libertarians. they seem to be a lot more principled than that


[16-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Infringement" should be read as "any regulation at all" tbh


[16-May-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, that's called "lying"


[16-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll believe it when I see it.


[16-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything I've seen from the right is "guns are okay when in the hands of white people"


[16-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've never seen them make a fuss when, for instance, a cop shoots a blakk good guy with a gun who could've helped stop the shooter.


[16-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cop shoots white guy for having a gun, outrage everywhere.


[16-May-20 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What they'd probably do is make it about something that indirectly affects the guns, like increasing security checkpoints at the entrances to government buildings and requiring ID be presented before you can enter


[16-May-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it sounds perfectly reasonable and all


[16-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/us/alabama-mall-shooting.html

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[16-May-20 03:52 AM] jimm#1439
I'm fine with the government /providing/ things, but once it takes something away it rarely gives it back, so I'd say preventing the taking away is more important in the long term even if it means less is provided in the short term


[16-May-20 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hot damn, son, what does it say on the ceiling


[16-May-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These althist Wikipedia entries


[16-May-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-May-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>independent candidate Ben Shapiro


[16-May-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean don't redistribute wealth? Sorry but, having 2 million dollars vs. 1 million doesn't make near as much of a difference as having 2 thousand vs 1 thousand.


[16-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You increase freedom overall if everyone has enuff money to go out and do things.


[16-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The increased ability of the rich is a pittance compared to the decreased ability of the poor per monetary difference.


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also we hav, like, existing taxes on the rich


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just would be need adjustment.


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't be adding something new, in fact it would be returning to the tax code of the 50s pretty much to do it AOC's way.


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The government can't be "no take, only throw." Everything it does is in some way subsidized by the population. The only question is, who are they taking from, and who are they giving to


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hint: They ain't robin hood


[16-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should be Robin Hood.


[16-May-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, what do you think of Keystone XL, @jimm?


[16-May-20 03:57 AM] jimm#1439
not informed enough


[16-May-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
A pity; it's one of the more important battles of the modern day for the people vs. far-away overlords.


[16-May-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gist of it is that a company wanted to route oil from Canada thru the Dakotas to refine in the US for cheaper than using trukks.


[16-May-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
...right thru native lands, without talking to the natives or caring that the oil will definitely pollute their water every couple years.


[16-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And without any compensation for them for such.


[16-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This led to protests, but the gov't from Obama to Trump has been unrelenting in believing that the tactics used to skip normal approval process were just.


[16-May-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
does the current oil price war affect anything of it


[16-May-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
(what they did is section the approval, so that instead of approving the risk/reward of the whole thing, they pretended it's a ton of tiny pipelines with tiny risks each, and only look at their very immediate sides instead of the broader thing the full pipeline would need)


[16-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cheap oil means the pipeline is pointless, sort of, but that's only temporary.


[16-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar things happen occasionally in Canada btw.


[16-May-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-May-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2


[16-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/24/canada-police-indigenous-anti-pipeline-activists-rail-blockade

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[16-May-20 04:03 AM] jlun2#8758
that's how i see americans from reading this channel, yes. @byte[]


[16-May-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental problem is that when a company can buy up land near you with you having no say, to run a ton of pollutant chemicals thru it, it hurts you unfairly.


[16-May-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protecting the rights of private property of companies using resources **means destroying the rights of private and public property of communities near the former's property**.


[16-May-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You **must** choose who to favor.


[16-May-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The default in Libertarian thinking is to support whoever can buy more favor.


[16-May-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
also the person being that young doesn't inspire me confidence guns are declining enough to not have as much political might


[16-May-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This destroys the rights of the individual, enslaving them to large companies.


[16-May-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think of that abstract idea, @jimm?


[16-May-20 04:06 AM] jimm#1439
polluting is definitely deserving of regulation, and I don't think most libertarians are pro-pollution


[16-May-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever see The Lorax


[16-May-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Once-Ler is a libertarian.


[16-May-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is being pro big oil is being pro-pollution.


[16-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I love when people challenge oil execs to drink fracking fluid


[16-May-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once-ler is Libertarian in the past.


[16-May-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He learns his lesson as he ages in a desolate wasteland he created.


[16-May-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately the movie ends with the community rising up against the company and CEO that effectively controls it (with no real gov't, cause it's literally anarcho-capitalism) to start planting trees.


[16-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh you mean the 2012 movie


[16-May-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[16-May-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has a more potent message than the book even tho it's not really great.


[16-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Book and original cartoon are more subtle


[16-May-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well they end somewhat ambiguously.


[16-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Silent Spring was only 10 years old when the cartoon came out


[16-May-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-says-anyone-who-believes-tara-reade-shouldnt-vote-him-1504253

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Biden says anyone who believes Tara Reade shouldn't vote for him
"If they believe Tara Reade," former Vice President Joe Biden said, "they probably shouldn't vote for me."
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[16-May-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a bluff.


[16-May-20 05:17 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0cLGou6cbM

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[16-May-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1261403984100818944?s=20

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Trump's international failures have cleared a path for Cuba to join the UN Human Rights Council. This would betray Cuba's political prisoners and further undermine U.S. diplomacy. As President, I will lead by empowering the Cuban people and defending human rights.
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[16-May-20 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-May-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-May-20 06:03 AM] jimm#1439
weird electoral map


[16-May-20 06:04 AM] ononim#8141
You could say it is a map of an Electoral Loss

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[16-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly, this is my prediction so far, I think it makes the most sense.

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[16-May-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
I guess the joke was lost on jimm


[16-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's amazing how two of the biggest Internet cultural movements happened because janitors on 4chan couldn't handle it


[16-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Loss and MLP's popularity


[16-May-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
they were both inevitable regardless of whether 4chan could "handle it"


[16-May-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-May-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
based


[16-May-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a crop, for the whole "Dude, natives had war, that justifies the absolutely abhorrent treatment the US has given them since its founding" meme


[16-May-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The next panel is the native being tomahawked by another native


[16-May-20 06:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261514269822201856

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[16-May-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking yes, I know


[16-May-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
stonetoss edits are usually p good though


[16-May-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1261001977598808065

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[16-May-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never let someone a decade from now go "Wow, how did that attack on a journalist just reporting something happen _again?_" without reminding them of 2020.


[16-May-20 08:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/15/politics/state-department-inspector-general-fired/index.html

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President Donald Trump on Friday fired State Department Inspector General Steve Linick, the latest in a series of dismissals of independent government watchdogs that have come in the wake of the President's acquittal on articles of impeachment earlier this year.
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[16-May-20 08:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Not long after Linick's firing was announced, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee said Linick had opened an investigation into Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.


[16-May-20 08:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Comically corrupt


[16-May-20 09:49 AM] Macarou#9574
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/if-work-dominated-your-every-moment-would-life-be-worth-living?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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If Work Dominated Your Every Moment Would Life Be Worth Living?
We could be nearing the realization of total work.
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[16-May-20 09:52 AM] jlun2#8758
why are we not automating


[16-May-20 09:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> Following this taskification of the world, she sees time as a scarce resource to be used prudently, is always concerned with what is to be done, and is often anxious both about whether this is the right thing to do now and about there always being more to do. Crucially, the attitude of the total worker is not grasped best in cases of overwork, but rather in the everyday way in which he is single-mindedly focused on tasks to be completed, with productivity, effectiveness and efficiency to be enhanced. 
isn't that basically tech bro culture


[16-May-20 09:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it is :3


[16-May-20 09:54 AM] jlun2#8758
i got like physically ill worrying and had to take meds


[16-May-20 09:55 AM] jlun2#8758
so I'm uncertain this scales to 100% of the population without causing people to go nuts and suicide


[16-May-20 09:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm certain with enough meds it would.


[16-May-20 09:57 AM] Opponent#3498
and big pharma is already one of the major powers in the world.


[16-May-20 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and even if sucide rate was 5% per population, that'd leave 95% to work productively and effeciently.


[16-May-20 09:59 AM] jlun2#8758
meant more like treating everything as work mentality, even if almost everything was automated


[16-May-20 09:59 AM] Opponent#3498
that was the Soviet dream, even if in practice people treated things differently.


[16-May-20 10:01 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[16-May-20 11:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now that some companies are gonna start doing mass work from home as the norm I imagine they'll try to sneak in "you must always be available / on call" shit into their contracts


[16-May-20 11:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for the future where work gives me free Ritalin to make sure I'm always focussed on work


[16-May-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-May-20 12:04 PM] Opponent#3498
looks supremely low-budget at this lighting btw.


[16-May-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the background somehow manages to look green screened in


[16-May-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though that's probably because the angle makes everyone look way smaller than they should


[16-May-20 12:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So what is the job of this space force?


[16-May-20 12:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Bringing democracy to other planets?


[16-May-20 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Its responsibilities include developing military space professionals, acquiring military space systems, maturing the military doctrine for space power, and organizing space forces to present to the Combatant Commands".


[16-May-20 12:16 PM] Opponent#3498
so, bringing demoracy to other planets? _hopeful_


[16-May-20 12:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for trump it;s basically the air force but in space. For future presidents, it could become a bigger idea with more capabilities


[16-May-20 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we already kind of had it to begin with, it;s just seperated from the air force as a power now


[16-May-20 12:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
26 new cases in Jilin, China yesterday


[16-May-20 12:24 PM] Opponent#3498
does it have anything to its name besides name and bureucracy?


[16-May-20 12:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The dumbass name is further proof we're in the worst timeline


[16-May-20 12:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right? at least call it the star force, if you;re gonna go with force


[16-May-20 12:28 PM] Opponent#3498
Space Corps would be better I think.


[16-May-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that too


[16-May-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
space force just sounds like you took the air force and swapped air for space, which is essentially all he really did


[16-May-20 12:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[16-May-20 12:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stellar Defense Service, Strategic Orbital Defense, hell, fucking STAR FORCE would've been better


[16-May-20 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Space Force is such a lame name god dam


[16-May-20 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
star command!


[16-May-20 12:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
disney would have sued their asses but it's a way better name


[16-May-20 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/15/politics/texas-supreme-court-mail-in-ballots/index.html

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Texas Supreme Court halts counties from issuing mail-in ballots to ...
The Texas Supreme Court issued a stay Friday evening to keep county election officials from allowing voters who are afraid of catching coronavirus to vote by mail.
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[16-May-20 12:32 PM] Opponent#3498
> Strategic Orbital Defense


[16-May-20 12:32 PM] Opponent#3498
sounds pretty dope tbh.


[16-May-20 12:33 PM] Opponent#3498
USSOD isn't terrible either.


[16-May-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-May-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently their highest rank is "master chief"

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[16-May-20 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not even a real branch of the military


[16-May-20 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just part of the air force


[16-May-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That already had a department that did the exact same duties


[16-May-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All of this is just the result of Trump blabbing about "Space Force" while the cameras were rolling


[16-May-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the impossibility of him ever being wrong


[16-May-20 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So they fucking created this entire farce just to make sure Trump is never mistaken


[16-May-20 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's so fucking pathetic

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[16-May-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the flag looks like a cheap scifi bootleg movie prop...


[16-May-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Force_(TV_series) i know this exists now, and this whole thing feels like a free promotion for the series

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Space Force is an upcoming American comedy web television series created by Greg Daniels and Steve Carell, starring Carell, John Malkovich, Ben Schwartz, Diana Silvers and Tawny Newsome. The series is set to premiere on Netflix on May 29, 2020.


[16-May-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-May-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump could walk in to the Senate and shoot a Senator, and the Senate would vote 53-44 he is not guilty. Unless he shot a Republican senator, then the vote would be 52-45

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[16-May-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-May-20 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-May-20 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
DONT DEAD


[16-May-20 04:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
OPEN INSIDE


[16-May-20 06:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🎧 🔊 I AM A **FREE**
I AM NOT **MAN**
*A **NUMBER***
*guitar solo*


[16-May-20 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
legit progressive metal lyrics.


[16-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wow, Air Force Space Command's logo is TERRIBLE


[16-May-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that's where the bad parts of the Space Force one came from.


[16-May-20 07:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-christie-view-joy-behar-clash-coronavirus-stimulus

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Chris Christie clashes with ‘View’ co-host Joy Behar: 'You're not w...
Chris Christie sparred with Joy Behar during an appearance on “The View” on Friday, telling the liberal co-host she was “absolutely wrong” for saying Republicans don’t want to spend money in order to help people amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[16-May-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course she's wrong. They were all over spending money on big business to make sure it got helped out *first*. It's spending money on the poor they take issue with.


[16-May-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-target-face-masks-broken-arm-security-video-coronavirus-police-a9512356.html

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Target employee left with broken arm after fight over face masks, p...
Men confronted after allegedly refusing to wear coverings in store, authorities said
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[16-May-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something interesting to note about the way this is covered is that many, many American news sites say "Target guard broke his arm fighting..."


[16-May-20 07:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Implying that it's the guard's fault for daring to resist two people endangering others *and assaulting employees*.


[16-May-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
that's like the least dangerous thing to happen to a security guard over mask enforcement


[16-May-20 07:53 PM] byte[]#2610
people are getting shot at


[16-May-20 08:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a32496561/why-magnetic-north-pole-moving/


[16-May-20 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh, wow I guess?


[16-May-20 08:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh


[16-May-20 09:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Canada needs to pressure the government to take back the magnetic north pole


[16-May-20 09:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇨🇦 🦆


[16-May-20 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's cool, only thing we need to worry about is deadly radiation and solar wind stripping the planet of its atmosphere


[16-May-20 09:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
not if we can strip it first.

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[16-May-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
hot


[16-May-20 09:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the second may event has begun


[16-May-20 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We're not even over the murder hornets yet


[16-May-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the third may event is the murder hornets becoming magnetic


[16-May-20 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.globalvillagespace.com/trump-hints-about-launching-super-duper-missile-at-space-force-ceremony/

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US President Donald Trump has offered a sneak peak into the future of American military tech, talking up what he called a super duper missile
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[16-May-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/498133-graham-on-potential-supreme-court-vacancy-this-would-be-a-different

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the Senate would work to confirm a Supreme Court nominee this year if a vacancy arises, saying the circumstances are different from 2016, when Republicans blocked then-President Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland.
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[16-May-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course it would be.


[16-May-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"You had the president of one party nominating, and you had the Senate in the hands of the other party."


[16-May-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How is this supposed to be a _bad_ thing?


[16-May-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't this actually encourage picking someone that is qualified and impartial?


[16-May-20 09:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's almost like the goal is to pick political stooges or something


[16-May-20 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is the GOP


[16-May-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats also tend to pick political stooges as well


[16-May-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not picking a political stooge that is an activist is a pretty dumb move.


[16-May-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Graham is one of the senators who decided he quite enjoys the stench of Donald's taint


[16-May-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Garland wasn't one, but that was also 2016


[16-May-20 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty sure I can think of at least one or two Biden picks


[16-May-20 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
p.fucked up that the only republican in the senate that seems to have a soul is the "corporations are people" guy


[16-May-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amy Berman Jackson and Leondra R. Kruger are all that comes to mind


[16-May-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kagan was probably the most unorthodox choice recently


[16-May-20 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Facebook bought Giphy


[16-May-20 09:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[16-May-20 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
> They were released from jail on $50,000 bail, police said.


[16-May-20 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
oh no, the target attackers are rich


[16-May-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/arizonas-attorney-general-is-going-after-conservative-activist-jacob-wohl/

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Arizona’s Attorney General Is Going After Conservative Activist Jac...
"Mr. Wohl has not paid anything since the matter was sent to the Attorney General's Office for collections," a spokesperson for the Arizona Corporation Commission said in a written statement to Salon.  "Given his indictment last year, I would venture that any available funds a...
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[16-May-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
> Wohl, described invariably as a “blundering conservative operative,” a “right-wing provocateur,” a “conspiracy theorist, fraudster, and internet troll,” and a “[s]parkling-water enthusiast . . . simply unparalleled in the field of failed smear attempts,” owes $43,000 in fines, penalties, and restitution in case filed by the Arizona Corporation Commission. The Arizona attorney general’s office is now “actively pursuing collection efforts” against him, Salon reports. The fines were the result of a fraud ruling against Wohl.


[16-May-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking if you actually read it, Graham is saying the quiet part loud.


[16-May-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "difference" he cites is that the GOP has the presidency.


[16-May-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"In 2016 we could obstruct, now we don't have to and they can't, totally different situation"


[16-May-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's exactly what he says.


[16-May-20 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, I got that


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
"You had the president of one party nominating, and you had the Senate in the hands of the other party. A situation where you've got them both would be different."


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those are his actual words.


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can tell the point is "We want a stooge for our party, so now we can do it"


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sorta


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's more like "we'll kiss presidential ass, since it's our president"


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You have to..._compromise_ if the government is split


[16-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's not really talking about the judge


[16-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
To him, it's just about obeying the president.


[16-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could pikk the most liberal justice ever and Graham would pukker up.


[16-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, Obama could've pikked Scalia 2: The Revenge and Graham would've urinated all over it.


[16-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You've gotta understand that underneath their lakk of principles is an even stronger lakk of principles.


[16-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are scumbags of the highest order.


[16-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
For all they care, Trump could nominate Biden


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The same day Tara Reade brings forth video evidence that shows beyond a reasonable doubt he raped her at gunpoint after drugging her.


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd all vote for Biden.


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
New SCOTUS justice in fastest confirmation time ever.


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They just want a king to be loyal to


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democracy annoyingly asks too much of them


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They would have been Cavaliers.


[16-May-20 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they all want to be Thomas, basically


[16-May-20 10:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas never wanted the job


[16-May-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're neutral on Democracy. What they want is a leader who just says "that's how it is" and owns the libs.


[16-May-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd probably vote for Biden as a justice in *larger* numbers if liberals called for him to go to jail.


[16-May-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't care what people want.


[16-May-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Individual freedom is abhorrent to them.


[16-May-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You follow the one path or you get murderized.


[16-May-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
All their arguments about choices are really just about making sure the citizen's mob can go around torching the homes of and lynching anyone who doesn't fall in line.


[16-May-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want the KKK burning crosses on every street corner.


[16-May-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
But with the crosses, fuel, and sheets sold at massive cost by BP.


[16-May-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile a company found giving away guns and other defensive options to minorities gets investigated and found guilty of some obscure charge.


[16-May-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, in the oldest-known legend of St. George, @Itsthinking, he leashes the dragon and rides it around to terrorize the town he was told to protect into all converting to Christianity, then beheads it the moment it's no longer useful.


[16-May-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what Republicans want.


[16-May-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rugged individuals committing terrorism to make sure that freedom only goes to the most evil.


[16-May-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
And forcing everyone else to follow strict dogma.


[16-May-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe government-sanctioned terrorism to enforce government-sanctioned ideology is usually just called fascism


[16-May-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the big lie is that Libertarianism and Fascism are at odds.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
They in practice aren't.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
White Socialism


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some sort of socialism, that is based around nationalist ideology


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who say they're Libertarian inevitably just want the gov't to remove its protection of minorities and the poor.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder what it would be called


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
While keeping the parts that keep people in line culturally.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And protecting business owners and the rich.


[16-May-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm always amazed when I bump into some "libertarian ancap" or the like on _tumblr_


[16-May-20 10:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And they're all invariably edgelords and cunts with the hottest takes like "smiling is communism"


[16-May-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There are like five people on Tumblr still


[16-May-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who watched The Lorax and got the message being that you need police to keep a community in line or else they'll plant trees and ruin you economically.


[16-May-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that it's the lakk of trees that creates innovation like completely artificial self-sustaining environments.


[16-May-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, tumblr is full of 4chan rejects


[16-May-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
From the raids I guess, that stuck around because they could post named and get likes


[16-May-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, some people watch Star Wars (the original one) and see it as a tragedy.


[16-May-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that little bit of recognition that they exist means a lot to losers


[16-May-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor Empire got its big shooty boi blown up by scum etc.


[16-May-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
well... it was under construction


[16-May-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
No that's the 3rd/ep 6th one.


[16-May-20 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lots of civilian contractors got blown up I bet


[16-May-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
In A New Hope, Death Star is all done to begin with.


[16-May-20 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I vaguely recall Vader chewing out Tarkin because the station wasn't operational yet


[16-May-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I watched Gattaca and Toy Story 3 and thought both endings were terrible, am I an awful person?


[16-May-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I barely remember either


[16-May-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gattaca I remember the basic story


[16-May-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
TS3 is the one where they nearly get mulched, right?


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ending of GATTACA is that a guy may or may not die in space, but he'll liv his dream either way.


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gattaca was the guy who overcame not being genetically modified and learned a lesson about humanity and fulfills his dream of being an astronaut on a crewed mission to Jupiter


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
...by lying about his heart defect


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
TS3 is where the teddy bear gets crucified on a semi grill.


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, and has a heart problem, yeah


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Like it really defeats the whole plot of the movie and questions about equality in the future when the guy objectively should not have gotten the job he did


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool, dude will probably crash a probe into the station and kill everyone


[16-May-20 10:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of implied the heart problem might not be as bad as it should hav been, since he's made it well past his normal life expectancy.


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But he sure showed them... medical screeners


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The complication, TSP, is that it's a society where genetic defects disqualify you from even desk jobs.


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More like die three years in and have his body shot out the airlock


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And see that is bad


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"not as bad" doesn't cover going from 10Gs to living for months in zero g


[16-May-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But his genetic defect _should_ disqualify him from the job he wants


[16-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well with how easy they made space travel, he should be able to do stuff on an LEO station.


[16-May-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But he got selfish and wanted the multi year Jupiter mission


[16-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is they went full retard and drove people with conditions underground.


[16-May-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's only hurt others


[16-May-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate tragedy is that society kind of did it to itself.


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, he's discovered right before the mission.


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the doctor knew all along.


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And lets him go.


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Was it implied that only the rich got the genetic modifications prior to birth or something?


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
His parents were poor and christian


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah


[16-May-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
they had to save up money to fix his brother.


[16-May-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And there's no post-birth genetic fixing.


[16-May-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's made clear that there are many, many people like him


[16-May-20 10:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And discrimination is rampant despite being illegal


[16-May-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
who are hired by incapacitated good-DNA people to work in their place despite not having the DNA.


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, we find out the mission was gonna be delayed


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
the murder that happened at the start of the events of the story was done by a guy in upper management


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
...what's even the point of a crewed mission to Jupiter?


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What would it do a robot can't?


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's implied that space travel is super easy


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
meaning there's been other missions all over


[16-May-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
launches are seen every day


[16-May-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Presumably they've already sent a ton of robots and they want people to go to do experiments


[16-May-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking robots are hard to relate to people in stories


[16-May-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
one of the main reasons to use people is that we don't wear out as easy


[16-May-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mechanical hinges break down very fast in environments with high EM radiation in the radio range.


[16-May-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of sparking from induced current.


[16-May-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
With people, as long as you shield them from ionizing radiation, they're fine.


[16-May-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't a crewed Mars mission give you years worth of ionizing radiation even with shielding


[16-May-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The other issue is rapid planning.


[16-May-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a delay in communications.


[16-May-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[16-May-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just bury yourself under like 20 feet of rokk.


[16-May-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so if you've got amazing AI, then sure, robots.


[16-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But @Itsthinking we're talking over an hour to move if there's a human operator.


[16-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
To get really good movements you want an adaptive learning system that can handle unexpected cases.


[16-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means either extensive recreated-environment testing with machine learning, or a human.


[16-May-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, even machine learning can't deal with unknown unknowns.


[16-May-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you get out to Jupiter and there's some gotcha that the testing didn't recreate, you need AI or a human.


[16-May-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
GATTACA's world has no AI.


[16-May-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
(it's basically the 90s but with super rokkets and instant DNA testing around every corner)


[16-May-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, a human in a super bunker a few kms from the robots, @Itsthinking


[16-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least around the same planet.


[16-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, that's most likely what the first crewed Mars missions will be.


[16-May-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts in orbit of Mars controlling robots that are on the surface.


[16-May-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's way cheaper on fuel cause you don't hav to take anything off Mars' surface, and you no longer get your rovers confined to going at a literal snails' pace.


[16-May-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/politics/texas-supreme-court-mail-in-ballots/index.html

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[16-May-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, I thought that he didn't actually have a heart defect, he just had a high chance of having it according to his genes


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
like a 93% chance of having the heart defect


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
99%


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
He has an irregular heartbeat while exercising once in the movie.


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not made entirely clear if he really has the whole defect that was stated.


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
he was getting super pissed about something when that happened


[16-May-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
I think he was listening in on some gossip that was making him angry


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
while on a treadmill


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
After running continuously for 20 minutes, yes.


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon too


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
At any rate, he can literally swim a marathon better than his brother.


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's very plausible that his heart isn't really as bad as expected and it's the 1% that it's basically just normal.


[16-May-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just never stated.


[16-May-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
he literally wouldn't have been able to keep up with the conditioning if he had the heart defect


[16-May-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
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[16-May-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't the doctor/someone else help him fudge his likelihood of dying or something


[16-May-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
no, he was pretending to be someone else with completely different genes


[16-May-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The doctor at the end overrode the thing to show the guy he was pretending to be.


[16-May-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that he could go to space.


[16-May-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
at the very last moment, he had a surprise urine test that he wasn't expecting


[16-May-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[16-May-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of the drama I saw about the guy who falls off a building in the future and needs a bunch of surgery


[16-May-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has good insurance so goes to the fancy clinic


[16-May-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
His insurance company then goes "URINE TEST WAS FAKED, POLICY CANCELLED" and he gets dumped in the free clinic


[16-May-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some rich guy dies and the nurse who falls in love with the guy hacks the robo doctor system so he can get the transplants


[16-May-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
All in future Parismerica.


[16-May-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The very idea a show about possible future advances would hav toilets that report to a company to deny you healthcare you paid to get is a sign of how bad the US has gotten.


[16-May-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember the episode where a laptop from 2000 brings Parismerica to its knees?


[16-May-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
A holographic pet created on a laptop from 2000.


[16-May-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then they go to look inside little glass cubes at the library to find out how to fix stuff and the cops think it wasn't them that did it.


[16-May-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Little glass cubes with no surface protection would be terrible for information storage.


[16-May-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know, maybe it's because it was made in 2007 but I'd think the US would have had a socialist president by 2057


[16-May-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who at least tries to make healthcare a right


[16-May-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that's why the guy gets put in a free clinic at all


[17-May-20 12:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> I'd think the US would have had a socialist president by 2057
That sounds very optimistic, considering from searching I got
>  The U.S. population age 65 and older will double in size from 43.1 million in 2012 to 83.7 million in 2050
which would lead to a similar generational "war"


[17-May-20 12:20 AM] illumnious#7938
Petty moments 101

Experts warn of 2020 'meltdown' as election funding faces rocky path through Congress https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/experts-warn-2020-meltdown-election-funding-faces-rocky-path-through-n1208251

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Experts warn of election ‘meltdown’ as election funding is uncertai...
“There is a real significant risk to the integrity of the election if we don’t invest now in our election infrastructure.”
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[17-May-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1261793132020224005?s=21

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Why is it that China, for decades, and with a population much bigger than ours, is paying a tiny fraction of $’s to The World Health Organization, The United Nations and, worst of all, The World Trade Organization, where they are considered a so-called “developing country” an...
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[17-May-20 01:03 AM] illumnious#7938
Petty


[17-May-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's really sad that Trump's twitter sounds like an edgy 15yo trying to own the libs on a gaming forum's Off Topic section


[17-May-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Random capitalization is weird


[17-May-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-May-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odds as of today

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[17-May-20 02:44 AM] illumnious#7938
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A cybercriminal gang that hacked a major entertainment law firm claims it will release information on President Trump if it doesn’t receive $42M in ransom. https://t.co/7iwMmfiJzI
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[17-May-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
dear cybercriminal gangs: release it anyway


[17-May-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought Trump was invincible anyways


[17-May-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to his supporters, yes


[17-May-20 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though his supporters aren't really who he's worried about these days


[17-May-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They probably will release it anyway.


[17-May-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want money first.


[17-May-20 04:14 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[17-May-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1261398294279925761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1261398294279925761&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalvillagespace.com%2Ftrump-hints-about-launching-super-duper-missile-at-space-force-ceremony%2Fhttps://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1261398294279925761

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TRUMP: "We have, I call it the 'Super Duper Missile.' And I heard the other night, 17 times faster than what they have right now. If you take the fastest missile right now. You've heard Russia has 5 times, China is working on 5 or 6 times. We have one 17 times ...17 times fas...
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[17-May-20 04:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Dear world: someone just hit the nuke button and get it over with already. I'm tired of the apocalypse playing coy

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[17-May-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stay tuned for the next best missile "the superest duperest allyooperest missile"


[17-May-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will strike fear into the hearts of no one who hears its name!


[17-May-20 04:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Big Zoomer Boomer 🚀


[17-May-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently Trump is using the nick jr. method of naming things now


[17-May-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inspectorgeneral-whitehouse/white-house-says-trump-fired-state-dept-watchdog-at-pompeos-request-idUSKBN22S0VS

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White House says Trump fired State Dept. watchdog at Pompeo's request
U.S. President Donald Trump fired the State Department's inspector general following a recommendation by U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the White House said on Saturday.
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[17-May-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump firing investigators to bail his cronies out of trouble. I really wish this came as a surprise.


[17-May-20 04:38 AM] jlun2#8758
if Biden wins is he still keeping  Trump's hires?


[17-May-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlikely


[17-May-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump only hired the most corrupt people he could find, keeping them on is inviting massive sabotage and would damage any efforts his administration would attempt


[17-May-20 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Also most of them are not qualified for the positions they were hired for, so that would just be reckless and irresponsible


[17-May-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
> They're nationalists. When the Republicans absorbed the tea party they went further right than conservative.


[17-May-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
> Why not combine the two and call them Nationalist Conservatives? We can call them NatCs for short.


[17-May-20 08:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo


[17-May-20 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind a lot of these people are "socialism, but for whites only"


[17-May-20 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which actually is Nazism


[17-May-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or that was the pitch


[17-May-20 08:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Socialism, but for Citizens only


[17-May-20 08:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It became the pitch


[17-May-20 08:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. military or government service


[17-May-20 08:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone else can go get fucked


[17-May-20 08:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, the document everyone points to as evidence that nazis were socialists was already obsolete by the time they actually rose to power in the span of only a year or two


[17-May-20 08:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd have to double-check to remember what the actual dates were and I'd rather not google nazis at 3AM


[17-May-20 08:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm making much better use of my time googling usb washing machines at 3AM


[17-May-20 08:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actual socialists in the party would be gone by the Night of the Long Knives


[17-May-20 08:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the idea, everyone is a soldier and government employee


[17-May-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're on your state sponsored vacation by the sea. The party mandates you relax and have fun.


[17-May-20 08:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazi entertainment is a weird thing too


[17-May-20 08:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There wasn't really much comedy. Some, but not much.


[17-May-20 08:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The typical targets were not used for comedy generally.


[17-May-20 09:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The non political entertainment was mostly just fluff.


[17-May-20 09:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In an unexpected twist, nazis invented laughtracks to make up for their lack or comedic talent


[17-May-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes sense they would invent that torture device


[17-May-20 09:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, Hitler and Goebbels had really opposite views on how to use the media


[17-May-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hitler wanted documentaries like "Triumph of the Will" or "The Eternal Jew" as he believed showing people "bad things" directly was the best way


[17-May-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Goebbels thought that was trashy, and preferred doing it in movies like "Jew Suss" which weaved the propaganda into a story (also was meta because it was a response to positive versions of the same story from the US/UK)


[17-May-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There were also no bad reviews allowed for German produced films ever, even for non political stuff


[17-May-20 09:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Uwe Boll was born too late I guess

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[17-May-20 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
The week the White House was masked https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/week-white-house-was-masked-n1208221

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The week the White House was masked
Behind the scenes: Following a memo last week requiring anyone entering the West Wing to cover their face, staffers headed en masse to the medical office to pick up masks.
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[17-May-20 03:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/17/middleeast/israel-chinese-ambassador-dead-intl/index.html

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Chinese ambassador to Israel is found dead in his home
China's Ambassador to Israel, Du Wei, was found dead inside his official residence Sunday morning, a spokeswoman for Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs told CNN.
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[17-May-20 03:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
The IDF strikes again


[17-May-20 05:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/theweek/status/1261385894830968833?s=21

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https://twitter.com/theweek/status/1261385894830968833?s=21
The world's first trillionaire would be cause to celebrate. From @JimPethokoukis:https://t.co/WqKwLjRhfI
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[17-May-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
third reply https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYONUXZUEAAq0ft.jpg:orig

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[17-May-20 05:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I have an idea how to celebrate that. 
🥅 ⚽ :beheaded: 🥅


[17-May-20 05:49 PM] jlun2#8758
> Why Jeff Bezos becoming a trillionaire would be a great thing for all of us
so when is he starting his own country?


[17-May-20 05:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why start your own country when you can just buy the US


[17-May-20 05:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
It is now illegal to be caught not working.


[17-May-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pee on the prime guard to establish prime dominance


[17-May-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prime curfew starts at prime time, be sure to be in your prime house doing your mandatory prime product assembly before the prime guards have to taser you with their amazon brand Bezos Prods™️


[17-May-20 06:03 PM] jlun2#8758
Bezos Anal Prod


[17-May-20 06:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Amazon Fire Prod.


[17-May-20 06:05 PM] jlun2#8758
intestinal branding


[17-May-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The amazon echo collar will monitor your heart beat and "motivate" you in the case of exhaustion


[17-May-20 06:07 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Alexa will listen for negativity about Prime Leader and act accordingly.


[17-May-20 06:08 PM] jlun2#8758
Worker 123 is discontent. Alexa, kill worker 123.


[17-May-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that implies there is mercy to be had


[17-May-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Worker 123 is discontent. Alexa, Administer the prime lobotomy nanites

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[17-May-20 06:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend

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[17-May-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-May-20 07:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498189-hhs-secretary-on-people-not-following-social-distancing-thats-part-of

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Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Sunday that reports of people crowding in bars across the country as some states lift restrictions is “part of the freedom” Americans have.
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[17-May-20 07:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[17-May-20 07:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
U n c a n n y


[17-May-20 08:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Unaffected by the pharisaic objection that after another 60 years of capitalism (however with a strong dash of decay) one should with the as always “careless” Marx triple the parentheses instead of cancel them out

(((MARX TIME)))


[17-May-20 09:04 PM] Opponent#3498
what :wat:


[17-May-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
you know how in various Eldritch Horror-type settings knowledge brings insanity?


[17-May-20 09:06 PM] AaronMk#4499
Layers of exceptions and comments made over time leading to Marx and muddying Marx in the way Stalinism does. Or as it seems Bordiga is pointing out, since the last two volumes of Capital were written while Marx was terminally ill leaving them mostly incomplete and for Engels to try and suss out from personal correspondence with Marx.


[17-May-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
this is such knowledge.


[17-May-20 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
So Engels was the first paranthesis, and after up to Stalin further parenthesis and in-test annotations were added onbfuscating the work.


[17-May-20 09:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
> The commodity hailing from the land of capitalist theory has the word: “I am made of two parts and therefore only one weld is visible on me: the cost of production (a living and used up advance of my producer) and the profit, that together add up to the precise sum below I, don’t delude yourselves, don’t meet my principles. To encourage the buyer, I content myself with a modest profit: through a simple calculation – profit divided by cost of production – you can check the rate of this profit. Suppose my cost is 10 and you can own me for 11, do you want to be stingy and claim that the ten percent rate is excessively high? Step right up, ladies and gentlemen...”

> We now hand the microphone to the other commodity. It talks like this: “For us Marxist economics is critical. You see two welds on me. I have no reason to hide that: Because I consist of three and not of two parts. The trick with the other commodity is that it isn’t visible there. To produce me, there are two expenditures: raw materials, consumption of instruments of production and suchlike, which we call constant capital invested in me – and the compensation of human labour, which we call variable capital. The sum forms what the lady before me called cost of production. For me as well you have to add a yield, an earning or profit, which is my third and last part: called surplus value. For the advanced constant capital, we calculate nothing on top, as we know that it does not add value: only labour, meaning the variable part of the advance creates value. So, if you want to determine the percentage or the rate, not of profit but of surplus value, it is very easy as well: you just have to divide the surplus value by the second part of the capital advanced for me, that is, the wages.”

:B:ordiga getting narrative.


[17-May-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, this is much more legible.


[17-May-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking not everything was nationalized under the Nazis. Capitalists were seen as useful tools etc.


[17-May-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also it makes sense that comedy would be virtually nonexistent but they'd still cover the bad stuff.


[17-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of the comedy was "Man people who complain about shortages suck, look how silly they are"


[17-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which still has a political purpose


[17-May-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes. They wouldn't want to put in comedy around the actual issues, because then people start politically engaging with them.


[17-May-20 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's always mocking Roosevelt


[17-May-20 09:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
A continuation from the above pasted part(s):

> Whereupon the ordinary buyer replies: “Explain that to your hairdresser! The only thing my wallet is interested in is the end cost, that is, your respective sale price.”

> There is spat between the two commodities, in which each claims to want to close the less profitable deal and to settle for the lowest profit rate. As neither of them can press it down to zero, the one that actually has the lowest cost of production wins, as Stalin also incessantly indicates. For the constant part, quantity and quality of raw materials are given. The competition in both export countries is staged on the variable part. And certainly, there is the solution to pay the workers less, to let them work longer, but predominantly labour productivity is backed, which is conditioned by technological progress, the use of more powerful machines and the ever more rational organization of firms. Already both sides are displaying glossy prints of their large-scale plants, where each prides itself in having reduced the number of employees at constant or larger scale of production. But one thing that the buyers care even less about is knowing on which side of the contested market the workers are being paid and treated better.


[17-May-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/17/russia-is-interfering-our-elections-again-trump-supporters-are-emulating-russian-tactics/


[17-May-20 10:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/notlameaschris/status/1261755352770506752?s=21

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PART 1/2

alright before I get suspended again: here is a video basically highlighting why a bunch of accounts are being suspended and probably won’t be allowed back on here https://t.co/InbAmAQX3g
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[17-May-20 10:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
so twitter is gonna have it's gamer gate moment?


[17-May-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
smh


[17-May-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
this guy pronounced "twat" like twot


[17-May-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
blocked and reported


[17-May-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Could be just fud


[17-May-20 10:43 PM] byte[]#2610
is probably just fud


[17-May-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But knowing how some people really are that stupid, shrug


[17-May-20 11:31 PM] Yuri#4154

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[17-May-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I prefer corporations memeing than this


[17-May-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/17/eric-trump-coronavirus/


[17-May-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> “You watch, they’ll milk it every single day between now and November 3," the younger Trump said. "And guess what, after November 3, coronavirus will magically, all of a sudden, go away and disappear and everybody will be able to reopen.”


[17-May-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I really can't anymore
Conservatives 3 months ago: The CDC telling us masks are ineffective is a lie, why do doctors wear them then? Get masks!
Conservatives this month: The CDC asking is to wear masks is a way to measure our servitude and dehumanize us, masks are useless!


[17-May-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
"social distancing is SOCIALISM"


[18-May-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Doctors are a hoax!


[18-May-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/trump-suffers-covidiocy-but-dont-write-him-off-yet/news-story/68b26483c71507606f00c4a24163428e>
> Covidiocy
:wheeze:


[18-May-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/people-are-dying-the-economy-is-collapsing-and-trump-wants-you-to-look-at-this-squirrel

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People Are Dying, the Economy Is Collapsing and Trump Wants You to ...
The rats in Trump’s abandoned hometown are fighting each other and resorting to cannibalism as the virus has shuttered businesses and restaurants and cut off their food supply.
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[18-May-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
at zippysqrl


[18-May-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
LMAO at Eric trying to build clout for 2024


[18-May-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You are the Jeb! of the Trump family, who wants Ivanka or Jr. and then eventually Barron but no one else.


[18-May-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1ttHydaS8

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Joe Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1ttHydaS8
Supporter Calls with Senator Elizabeth Warren | Joe Biden For Presi...
I'm incredibly grateful for everyone who has chipped what they could to help fuel this campaign — especially in times as tough as these. @ewarren and I called a few folks to thank them for their support.

Join our campaign: http://www.joebiden.com

Follow Joe!
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[18-May-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden taking one of the gimmicks no one liked


[18-May-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate this timeline so much


[18-May-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just wanna go sleep for a few years and check my phone every so often to see if it's worth waking up yet


[18-May-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden actually has a coalition


[18-May-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking conservative trolley problem https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708256671578849320/711415540358316123/image0.png

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[18-May-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When does it stop being cynicism/defeatism and start being conservativism?


[18-May-20 02:32 AM] illumnious#7938
Doctors couldn't help these COVID-19 patients with their endless symptoms. So they turned to one another. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/doctors-couldn-t-help-these-covid-19-patients-their-endless-n1208116

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Doctors couldn't help these COVID-19 patients with their endless sy...
Connecting with others online has brought "relief, excitement, sadness that somebody else knows what you're going through."
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_20/3351486/200515-long-term-covid-19-patient-diana-berrent-2-se-1106a_887c6c29a0bb7c5856a18b5081fde103.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[18-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking when people get shamed for thinking the trolley should be stopped.


[18-May-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatism's big thing is AGGRESSIVELY dealing with deviation.


[18-May-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm already waiting for harassment of people who continue to wear masks


[18-May-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Listen, the trolley's already moving, who are you to say it should be stopped when it's been moving on without issue for so long?"


[18-May-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/VulpesOkamis/status/1262133861871497217?s=19

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[18-May-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"OK, so maybe the trolley is hurting some people, but it works, we know it works. Are you going to take responsibility for what happens if we stop it? It's untested waters! And look at West Station 4, they tried NUCLEAR TROLLEYS WITH SNAKES and it went terribly and that's exactly what you're proposing here!"


[18-May-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trolley problem by ideology, top left-top right-bottom left-bottom right


[18-May-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The trolley should be stopped so the proletariat can take it over"


[18-May-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The trolley should continue, it could run over some minorities"


[18-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The trolley should stop and the person at the lever should be a woman"


[18-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The trolley should be stopped to search for children that can consent, then it can continue"


[18-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trash level take.


[18-May-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a joke.


[18-May-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The trolley should have its runners be us in the name of the proletariat [so we can run over them with it]"
"The trolley should continue, I'll run it and whoever it runs over is responsible for not getting out of the way [especially the jews]"
"The trolley should stop so we can all smoke weed with lesbian black jews"
"The trolley should cost money to run or stop and the people can decide with their dollar votes on the stock market"


[18-May-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Top left is "let's divide the tracks so the number of people hit is equal"
Bottom left is "let's all get on the trolley and pray the tracks maintain themselves"
Top right is "there is one rail and we've tied down the proper 'people' to the track for 'maintenance'
Bottom right is "The fee is $300 to ride the trolley; if you can't pay that you can work the tracks and roll for luck"


[18-May-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hard part is always bottom left. The flaw of liberalism isn't anything inherent to it, it's a pretty workable ideology in a vacuum. The problem is just it can't deal with the other three easily.


[18-May-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ideologies around authority, regardless of where it comes from, hav a huge advantage in ideological battles.


[18-May-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who think half the evil CEOs should be women are not bottom left.


[18-May-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're bottom right.


[18-May-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I was trying to go for


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Half evil CEOs being women would only be bottom right if it could make the company more money


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does, that's the entire point.


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We 👏 need 👏 more 👏 woman 👏 billionaires


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bottom left is for no reason


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least the stated is diversity


[18-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is to get money from liberals.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bottom right is explicit about it


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
By pretending to be diverse.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, bottom right is never explicit about their goals.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their entire purpose is to deceive, for more money.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the money is for more deception.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't it the "greed is good" quadrant?


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_my_ greed is good


[18-May-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Other people's greed is communism


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about more money at any cost.


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing all safety nets and scaffolds people use to climb up.


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting women in as CEOs furthers that.


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't cause equality.


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It causes more money from gullible bottom-left people.


[18-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bottom-right quadrant exists as a leech on the two adjacent ones.


[18-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't want age of consent revoked, it just wants to make money off of privatizing CPS.


[18-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
(middle right wants age of consent revoked, actually, because it's where most of the wealthy end up)


[18-May-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is nambla still a thing


[18-May-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or was it made, like, a terrorist group


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US AFAIK doesn't consider any domestic groups terrorist groups.


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bottom right only wants government to provide national defense and enforce contracts


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it would cause too many problems with unconstitutional shit.


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to keep all that overseas targeting brown people.


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association seems it's publicly dead

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[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since SCOTUS is A-OK with saying even Mexicans hav no rights to not be shot to death.


[18-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Top right wants gov't to get everyone in line.


[18-May-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait


[18-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bottom right wants gov't to exempt the market from that, so the market can do most of it.


[18-May-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't Black Panthers designated terrorists?


[18-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[18-May-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The FBI classified them as extremist tho


[18-May-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
internally.


[18-May-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans like to use that in propaganda against brown people.


[18-May-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But since it's not legally binding, it can't be challenged in court.


[18-May-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The fact that the FBI stalked MLK isn't talked about enough


[18-May-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is always like, hav an excuse to investigate them, but don't make anything public that you could be nailed down with.


[18-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if the FBI ever outright said that a group was illegal, the group could sue


[18-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
a judge who isn't properly bribed or indoctrinated could then say the FBI has to drop the thing and award damages and undo a lot of work suppressing brown people.


[18-May-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow, that's really cute


[18-May-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that one time the FBI dropped a huge case about child porn because the method they used was a secret?


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US literally does not recognize terrorism as a thing unless it's foreign


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they were using IIRC a mass warrant with an unknown TOR exploit


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really fucking amazing


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was a time that the people the FBI busted for child porn were other FBI agents


[18-May-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mass warrants are unconstitutional and TOR exploits are "the navy would like to know your location and contents of your hard drive so you can never do this again"


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they just dropped the entire case.


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they could save that stuff for other cases.


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of the FBI strategy about it is "infiltrate the communities, become the admins, then bust"


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess if I were to move back to the US and start systematically murdering conservative judges and their families I wouldn't be called a terrorist


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's p.cool to know


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd be called an extreme individual. Media would label you a terrorist, with an asterisk that FBI says you're not.


[18-May-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool


[18-May-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'll just kill the media too


[18-May-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if white enuff, they wouldn't even put that word.


[18-May-20 03:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/former-maine-governor-lepage-ridiculed-for-anti-lockdown-stunt-the-perfect-metaphor-for-republican-leadership/

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[18-May-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the Unabomber wasn't a terrorist, just an upset individual etc. etc.


[18-May-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody left to call me a terrorist


[18-May-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause he was white as a snowflake.


[18-May-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't trust anyone that's that wide


[18-May-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes I think I'm too wide and then I see Republicans in the South and East and I'm just confused.


[18-May-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can we just give Maine to Canada?


[18-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one villain from Spiderman is supposed to be exaggerated.


[18-May-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If a politician's physique can be compared to Chris Christie, they're probably into some dodgy backroom shit


[18-May-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are you hiding in that 1m width?


[18-May-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Soul food does things to you


[18-May-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hate how much the South glorifies lathering things in salt, fat, and sugar.


[18-May-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The South's cuisine is like France, but France (at least used to) have small portions


[18-May-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure that isn't just universal at this point


[18-May-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A _small_ bit of thing covered in butter and sugar


[18-May-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just think of French Toast


[18-May-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever see "The Itis" episode of The Boondocks?


[18-May-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's bread, drowned in milk and butter, pan fried in oil, covered in sugar or syrup


[18-May-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't remember, been a decade (or feels like one)


[18-May-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
Covering things in salt and fat gives you some great tasting food


[18-May-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't say I feel the same way about sugar (I find it increasingly repulsive) but a lot of people do


[18-May-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sugar makes me "feel" nauseous


[18-May-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Excess sugar, anyway


[18-May-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I haven't had cravings for a "sweet" food for years


[18-May-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
just salty stuff


[18-May-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It really depends, I can eat pancakes with maple syrup happily


[18-May-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what they call French toast in France?


[18-May-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But just the sight of a cake with frosting makes me feel ill


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Lost bread"


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
That's because american cake is literally shit


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, its a way to use the stale bread


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] byte[]#2610
The smell of that buttermilk cake makes me want to hurl


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay I admit it


[18-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I made a cake with mayonnaise once


[18-May-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biscocho is nice, since it's just bread with a bit of sugar and maybe some toppings


[18-May-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
buttermilk has very niche use cases and putting it in cakes just makes them taste awful


[18-May-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the problem.


[18-May-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mayo can replace eggs and oil.


[18-May-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's still one of those 1-inch slice tops things


[18-May-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mayo and vinegar make me ill, just the smell makes me want to leave the room


[18-May-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I happen to like both


[18-May-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the nasal equivalent of someone filing their nails


[18-May-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Guess I'm weird


[18-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only food I really really hate is water chestnuts


[18-May-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't eat most seafood


[18-May-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
uhh, can't eat mushrooms as well (though mushroom soup/flavoring is fine)


[18-May-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I really don't like queso blanco/queso fresco and that pisses off my dad a lot when he makes mexican food


[18-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I love seafood, eat mushrooms, hate vinegar and broccoli and some similar things.


[18-May-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supertaster covers I think the latter stuff.


[18-May-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cream cheese is a sin against god


[18-May-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not that I hate the taste of seafood but the chewy texture is ridiculously offputting


[18-May-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
oh man I love cream cheese


[18-May-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh.


[18-May-20 04:14 AM] StarlightSword4444#4854
I love cream cheese too.


[18-May-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NONE OF YOU ARE WALKING PAST THE PEARLY GATES


[18-May-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Saddam already invited me to the orgy


[18-May-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Wasn't planning on it


[18-May-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mushrooms are great in tiny chunks


[18-May-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
On their own it's like chewing into stale jello


[18-May-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mushrooms belong on pizza.


[18-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Red onions are the true sin


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or raw onions in anything.


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
>pico de gallo


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Red onions on pizza too.


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you are objectively wrong


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a food place here that has a pizza called "the stampede"


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
bell peppers are edible, but gross


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's every topping but pineapple.


[18-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pineapple is great on pizza.


[18-May-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I'll eat pineapple pizza but I'd prefer not to


[18-May-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm afraid of typing in a /ban command and actually banning someone for reals


[18-May-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because there are some really haram statements going on around here right now


[18-May-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think you can actually ban me unless you're the server owner


[18-May-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
chat admins have fucked permissions in discord


[18-May-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both color olives, both color onions, mushrooms, italian sausage, canadian bacon, and pepperoni.


[18-May-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pepperoni as in the pepper or the sausage


[18-May-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
sausage


[18-May-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
americans always mean the sausage


[18-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it has two types of sausage, two types of pork, two types of onions, two types of olives, and mushroms.


[18-May-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1261966172456660992

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The youtuber who once had a panic attack because he couldn't figure out how to leave Amsterdam is fantasizing about destroying socialism through mass murder
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[18-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, is pepperoni pork too?


[18-May-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought it was mostly beef in the US.


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, it just refers to the type of pepper used in the sausage


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it's entirely pork


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wikipedia says it's a mixture.


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chicago and St. Louis have a lot of competition with each other but everyone outside of those two places can agree our pizza styles are awful


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In europe it's referred to as salami and can be beef or pork


[18-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're also hilariously opposite


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy motherfuck


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of all the places


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of all the places in the entire world


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/DSCHBAX/status/1261967913675784192

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@classiclib3ral ohhhh, this guy again!
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[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Entitled American who went to Europe and now is like OH NO THEY ARE LIBERALS HELP HELP HELP?


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same guy


[18-May-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To complain about a foreign language


[18-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_Netherlands_ is not the place


[18-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EVERYONE there speaks English


[18-May-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Better English than the English


[18-May-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"What is that" is literally "Wat is dat"


[18-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reminds me, watching vids of people trying to figure out Old English word meanings given Old English riddles


[18-May-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one guy who's from a country where they speak a related language actually gets them the most wrong because he understands some of the words.


[18-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
(misses the forest for the trees; a lot of English words are pretty obvious cognates)


[18-May-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Old Spanish IIRC is mostly recognizable to modern Spanish speakers


[18-May-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old English is recognizable, it's just some words mean really different things.


[18-May-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like I guess all the instability with language injections changed meanings to be more specific.


[18-May-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas."


[18-May-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"LO, praise of the prowess of people-kings
of spear-armed Danes, in days long sped,
we have heard, and what honor the athelings won!
Oft Scyld the Scefing from squadroned foes,
from many a tribe, the mead-bench tore,
awing the earls."


[18-May-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize that English phonetics changed more wildly than how things are pronounced.


[18-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it really helps for it to be spoken)


[18-May-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it tends to be that the esoteric words died. The common stuff survived.


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't even recognize some of the words in the translation.


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is "þ"


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's th. One of th.


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
the one in "thistle"


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the one in "the".


[18-May-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
ða is the


[18-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
After eth (ð) died, thorn became both.


[18-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it became Y because typewriters were made in Germany.


[18-May-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be or not to be, þat is ða question


[18-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it became th.


[18-May-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wrong.


[18-May-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
ðat is ða


[18-May-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody says þat


[18-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
þick, þin, þistle, Þor, þot, etc.


[18-May-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
thick, thin, thistle, Thor, thot.


[18-May-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
þink


[18-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, þat does exist, but only in a specific context.


[18-May-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
"..that <condition>..."


[18-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in "I thought that he was such that he'd do it."


[18-May-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both are using unvoiced, and a different vowel sound.


[18-May-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/498238-sasse-rips-thugs-in-china-in-high-school-graduation-speech

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Sasse rips 'thugs in China' in high school graduation speech
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) took aim at China over its handling of the novel coronavirus pandemic in joke-filled remarks during a high school commencement address over the weekend.
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[18-May-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I recently saw a video of a guy criticizing TikTok for stealing your data


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy runs a _Youtube channel_ and has an _Instagram_


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's okay when America does it etc.


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He only cares because it's the Chinese that have his data.


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, conservatives don't care about the circumstance, Its.


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav in-vacuum principles and lists of who is good and not good.


[18-May-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, he's definitely not biased.

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[18-May-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't actually care that anyone has his data.


[18-May-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants the Chinese punished for being Chinese, and not rewarded with his data, which is valuable and thus a prize.


[18-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically he thinks they aren't worthy.


[18-May-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do americans still buy Hummers to compensate for their micropenii


[18-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, because Millennials don't buy cars.


[18-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gen X now is buying SUVs and stuff to carry around Zoomer grandkids.


[18-May-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Millennials that do buy cars mostly liv on the coasts and can't afford much more.


[18-May-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it's a mix of decades-old shit to scrape by with and very new cars to try to edge out on gas mileage.


[18-May-20 04:42 AM] illumnious#7938
https://imgur.com/gallery/jnXPQl0

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Why not just ban crime?
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[18-May-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is my favorite meltdown from the guy above tho

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[18-May-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess who got announced for Smash that caused this reaction


[18-May-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
A Fire Emblem character?


[18-May-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cloud.


[18-May-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's never played anything not Nintendo.


[18-May-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't know what San Andreas was when someone showed him a meme.


[18-May-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol.


[18-May-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Video games stopped for this guy and Arlo in like 2005


[18-May-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But when did they *start*?


[18-May-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which, coincidentally, is around the time Reggie arrived at Nintendo and said "Stop trying to pander to adults ffs we have Mario and child friendly franchises holy shit you were going to have a graffiti logo?"


[18-May-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2001.


[18-May-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it wasn't on the Gamecube, it isn't good.


[18-May-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You already posted it


[18-May-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh and as an aside @Nebbie , the guy lives in Illinois and hates it and anything that is a city and basically wishes he lived in Florida


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
he's wandering his hundreds of discord channels and posting it everywhere :D


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He very clearly lives in a suburb of Chicago and would hate Florida because minorities and Democrats.


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
I only have two, sometimes I screw up


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/KeezyBees/status/1262039125697261569

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[18-May-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
tbh


[18-May-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
we should have a car that brand new costs $1200


[18-May-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But we have things called "safety standards" or something


[18-May-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the price of cars has cratered significantly when compared with inflation


[18-May-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not so much outsourcing that hit the industry as it was near complete and total automation


[18-May-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
there are humans involved in making cars of course but robots on an assembly line do almost all the work these days


[18-May-20 05:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking that twitter link ew


[18-May-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[18-May-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Also did I posted that?

Anti-lockdown and anti-vaxxer protesters have merged. And it could be deadly. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/coronavirus-vaccine-quarantine-protesters-america-form-unholy-covid-19-alliance-ncna1207796

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Opinion | Anti-lockdown and anti-vaxxer protesters have merged. And...
These groups have converged to spread the same dangerous and self-defeating message.
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[18-May-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also most "economists" in the US and UK are people basically paid by Republicans to promote their own economic theories.


[18-May-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they know how much things cost, they are paid not to think or say anything about it.


[18-May-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it's always 1950, everyone's white middle class, and nothing is wrong.


[18-May-20 05:20 AM] jlun2#8758
do they pass their "economic theories" successfully to future people despite the fact it's not 1950 now?


[18-May-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[18-May-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Why do you think the term "trickle down economics" is used unironically to this very day

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[18-May-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 "news innocence"


[18-May-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-May-20 05:53 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[18-May-20 05:53 AM] jlun2#8758
was his tweets also constantly on the news back in 2014? cant remember


[18-May-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
He wasn't the president


[18-May-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
They made the news but they didn't stay on it


[18-May-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
This one will be fun for you https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/17/63-percent-of-american-believers-think-covid-is-gods-way-of-trying-to-change-us/

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63 Percent of American Believers Think COVID Is God’s Way of Trying...
They're all wrong.
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[18-May-20 06:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> 2% saying they believe in God today, but did not before. Fewer than 1% say they do not believe in God today but did before.
> 
> 26% of Americans say their sense of faith or spirituality has grown stronger as a result of the outbreak. Just 1% say it has weakened.
they're increasing rip
also last paragraph sounds about right


[18-May-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump was constantly given airtime during the Obama years, yes


[18-May-20 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad: ty


[18-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was _the_ birther conspiracy theory supporter


[18-May-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know it's unrealistic, but personally I can never vote for someone for president unless they served in the military and/or have a legal background


[18-May-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyone else being president is objectively unqualified for the job


[18-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At the very least, be a governor or senator


[18-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Random businessmen should never be president.


[18-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They should buy an NFL franchise to satisfy their ego, not run for public office.


[18-May-20 08:20 AM] Midknight#9798
oh, no, laddie. If Trump had run a beloved NFL franchise into the ground instead of just the fekin' country, we'd have rivers o' blood runnin' in the streets from the war that would'a caused.


[18-May-20 08:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-May-20 08:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
First time fatality dropped


[18-May-20 11:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain: 🇬🇧


[18-May-20 11:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZJzBZoXxc

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Scuffles in London as COVID-19 lockdown protesters moan about 'fake...
Scuffles with police broke out this afternoon as protesters breached lockdown rules and demonstrated over the restrictions.

A large group - including Jeremy Corbyn's brother -gathered in London's Hyde Park to complain about the "fake virus" after a bizarre call to arms was is...
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[18-May-20 12:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Fired State Department watchdog was looking into whether Pompeo made staffer walk his dog, pick up laundry https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fired-state-department-watchdog-was-looking-whether-pompeo-made-staffer-n1208981

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Fired State Department watchdog was looking into whether Pompeo mad...
Congressional officials are trying to determine whether other investigations into Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were underway.
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[18-May-20 12:43 PM] Opponent#3498
so, it was personal.


[18-May-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/120-nations-support-un-investigating-coronavirus-origin-china-angry-2020-5

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Diplomats are gathering around a resolution to be presented at an upcomign World Health Assembly meeting, which began as a push to scrutinize China.
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[18-May-20 01:45 PM] Opponent#3498
any pressure on China is a good thing. Maybe it'll transform to halt their aggressive expanstion.


[18-May-20 01:46 PM] Opponent#3498
although this is a pretty stupid reason.


[18-May-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/truthabtchina/status/1262264291509579776?s=21

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BREAKING: Political coup, Hong Kong, Monday, May 18th.

Security guards drag several pro-democracy lawmakers from the Hong Kong legislature.

After 9+ pro-democracy lawmakers are forcibly removed, the vote procedes. Pro-communist Starry Lee is unanimously elected as chairpers...
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[18-May-20 01:57 PM] Opponent#3498
well, F's in chat. They had a good run.


[18-May-20 02:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
An exquisite self own

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[18-May-20 02:52 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine unironically tilting at windmills


[18-May-20 02:58 PM] illumnious#7938
:lul:

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[18-May-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
wait, trump already made america great again


[18-May-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
his tagline for 2020 is "Keep America Great"


[18-May-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
but now he's saying that america needs to "transition to greatness"


[18-May-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
which implies that america currently isn't great


[18-May-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
so which is it?


[18-May-20 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
trump's brainless army requires liberals to own


[18-May-20 03:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"Open the country. Stop having it be closed. " - 🇺🇸


[18-May-20 03:58 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[18-May-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
:bigbrain:


[18-May-20 04:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Is open the country also code for open borders? :twiface:

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[18-May-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-May-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God i just wanna abolish the present state of things


[18-May-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1262397998094594050?s=21

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OIL (ENERGY) IS BACK!!!!
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[18-May-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is this? A twitter brainwashing exercise for his followers?


[18-May-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
til blacks and hispanics aren't real americans
> The average global rate is 6.2 and the US is 4.9. You're also ignoring the vast majority of US homicides comes from black urban youth and gang violence. Take the black\hispanic people out of the equation and then compare us with the rest of the "developed" world. Crime rates are very different then.
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[18-May-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
> It's not character assassination if you commit character suicide first, my mate.

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[18-May-20 05:38 PM] Opponent#3498
so then, character corpse defiling? :squintyjack:

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[18-May-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[18-May-20 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know, looking at that sort of interaction makes me glad i know the DB staff politically


[18-May-20 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It feels difficult to find leftist bronies around


[18-May-20 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The discordance between the show's values and those held by many in the fandom is simply amazing


[18-May-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But... there's ample precedent


[18-May-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What with christians completely ignoring practically everything Jesus said or did

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[18-May-20 06:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-chased-minutes-father-son-shot-lawyer

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Ahmaud Arbery, the Georgia jogger gunned down by a white father and son with links to local law enforcement, was chased for more than 4 minutes by the duo and a neighbor who filmed the incident before he being shot and killed, an attorney for Arbery's family said.
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[18-May-20 07:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1246146713523453957?s=21

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The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow)
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Hannity. Rush. Dobbs. Ingraham. Pirro. Nunes. Tammy. Geraldo. Doocy. Hegseth. Schlapp. Siegel. Watters. Dr. Drew. Henry. Ainsley. Gaetz. Inhofe. Pence. Kudlow. Conway. Trump.

Today, we salute the Heroes of the Pandumbic. https://t.co/35WLDgoHcf
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[18-May-20 07:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-May-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
Why is Elon and others making Matrix memes now?


[18-May-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because red pill has become an alt right meme


[18-May-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Red pill refers to (becoming enlightened to) the truth about reality, especially a truth that is difficult to accept or exposes disillusions.
> 
> Online, red pill is especially used among anti-feminist and white supremacist groups to "waking up" to the truth that women and liberal politics are oppressing men and white people.


[18-May-20 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Elon is implying the shut downs are a form of oppression and ivanka is agreeing


[18-May-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who is Grimes


[18-May-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Elon's wife


[18-May-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who was "popular" as a pop musician or something


[18-May-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) for some reason I thought he was thinking we are all in a sims game or something


[18-May-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, they certainly talk like it is


[18-May-20 08:18 PM] jlun2#8758
> oppressing men and white people.
are they even oppressable. outside "oh no they hurt my feelings im opressed"


[18-May-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh no, i am slightly inconvenienced! I'm being oppressed!"


[18-May-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
Due to how vocal they are, sometimes it feels to me there's somehow more white men than the population of the planet. (I know that's impossible btw)


[18-May-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But for them it is reality


[18-May-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They still believe, or cling desperately to the belief, that they are some sort of majority


[18-May-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Musk isn't even that


[18-May-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He just wants attention


[18-May-20 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, well, I was just getting to that - the only *real* majority they have is in being rich


[18-May-20 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which, given that it's still a minority of the population, is not enough


[18-May-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't understand how people can be rich and also absolute cunts


[18-May-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, i can understand becoming a cunt to become rich


[18-May-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But once you're safely there, why


[18-May-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've actually started to believe that we've moved past the point of "How much could a banana possibly cost? $15?" to the point where they just plain do not understand what poverty, or even needing to worry about disposable income, entails


[18-May-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
See: idiot rich people who assumed that the moment $1200 fell out of the sky we were going to buy cars and stuff


[18-May-20 08:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not *wreck* the economy (somehow) by paying down debt


[18-May-20 08:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Citizens are meant to live in debt


[18-May-20 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're meant to


[18-May-20 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have to


[18-May-20 08:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm a rulebreaker then


[18-May-20 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The economy depends on knowing you'll be constantly consuming and constantly paying back


[18-May-20 08:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Your existence is only as valid as the money the system knows you owe


[18-May-20 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```Which, given that it's still a minority of the population, is not enough```


[18-May-20 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
being rich is enough to break up the cohesion of any opposition


[18-May-20 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's often quite enough. People have learned from things like French Revolution, what happens when you discount the unwashed masses and leave them to their own devices.


[18-May-20 08:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's borderline impossible to become rich and stay a good person


[18-May-20 08:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd qualify that depending on your definition of rich, it's literally impossible


[18-May-20 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My definition of "rich" is simply "doesn't have to work on penalty of becoming homeless" tbh


[18-May-20 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(not including prisoners or dependants...)


[18-May-20 08:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the moment you cross a certain threshold you've moved from being ethical about how you obtain your wealth to ethically *maintaining* it. Recent twitter stupidity aside, the image most people had of Elon Musk before they learned the truth is just that - he'd get rich, start up some big company that helps people more than it helps him, bails it out with his own money and risking his own "rich" status to do so, etc.. Of course it turns out that no, at no point has Musk ever risked enough of his own to truly go bankrupt


[18-May-20 08:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If trickle-down economics were a real thing, it'd mean there would be no billionaires. The quality of life that comes from having a million bucks and having a thousand times that is nil.


[18-May-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And thus at some point it would simply not make sense to continue amassing wealth because as far as QOL goes it gains you nothing. The problem is, what it *does* get you is power. Lots of it.


[18-May-20 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon the decision of parole boards might be dependent on working prison jobs


[18-May-20 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
so there's that


[18-May-20 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Delicious Slave Nation


[18-May-20 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Totally not a dystopia


[18-May-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
in the US, striking union workers are frequently replaced with prison labor scabs (not that they have a choice in the matter, generally)


[18-May-20 10:40 PM] illumnious#7938

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[18-May-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would like one robo penis please.


[18-May-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
(reminder that conservatives aren't talking about like, sex change operations as being dangerous, they just don't like that people want to change anything)


[18-May-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-May-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-May-20 11:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-he-is-taking-hydroxychloroquine/

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Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine
"I get a lot of tremendously positive news on the hydroxy and I say, hey, you know the expression I've used ... what do you have to lose?" Mr. Trump said.
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[18-May-20 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], let him know what? that he's implying the US is an authoritarian regime?


[18-May-20 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[18-May-20 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For what it's worth I hope Trump is telling the truth here


[18-May-20 11:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
For once


[19-May-20 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/feds-warn-attacks-related-bogus-covid-19-conspiracy/story?id=70721145

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Feds warn of attacks related to bogus COVID-19 conspiracy theory
DHS report warns violence could follow bogus conspiracy theories about the novel coronavirus and telecommunications.
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[19-May-20 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-May-20 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
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Trump says he's taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings
Trump said he's been taken the unproven drug for "about a week and a half."
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[19-May-20 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[19-May-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
TRUMP AS QIN SHI HUANG


[19-May-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
TRUMP AS QIN SHI HUANG


[19-May-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:oof:


[19-May-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-May-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
We're no hand hugs
Open masks shakes very
To the allowed ok ok
Truth

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[19-May-20 12:32 AM] illumnious#7938
Today’s episode of welcome to Florida https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/florida-man-who-called-coronavirus-fake-crisis-gets-infected/

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A Florida man who initially believed the coronavirus was a “fake crisis” that was “blown out of proportion” is now hospitalized along with his wife — and is sounding a cautionary note about t…
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[19-May-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He looks like an egg


[19-May-20 12:35 AM] illumnious#7938
I’m telling you


[19-May-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], you forgot the emphasis


[19-May-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
:reppy:


[19-May-20 12:41 AM] Crow#5457
We're NO hand hugs
__Open__ masks shakes VERY
To the allowed OK OK
TRUTH


[19-May-20 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To the allowed 🆗 🆗


[19-May-20 12:42 AM] illumnious#7938
This is what happens when you are a trumpist


[19-May-20 01:08 AM] jlun2#8758
do pandemics just never existed during boomer times?


[19-May-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[19-May-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
pandemics are difficult


[19-May-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their parents and grandparents had pandemics, not them

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[19-May-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
like, from the perspective of a virus's evolution


[19-May-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it makes more sense for it to be highly contagious and not lethal


[19-May-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
because it will reproduce more effectively


[19-May-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
if everyone who gets it dies, then the virus will not be able to spread very far


[19-May-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
this makes for a natural filtering effect where widespread pandemics tend to stop themselves before they ever have a chance to start


[19-May-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[19-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
eventually, there's going to be a virus with an even longer incubation period


[19-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
and even more deadly


[19-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
which was what governments around the world have been preparing for


[19-May-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
the US had preparations


[19-May-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
they got depleted during the swine flu, republican congress refused to authorize restocking it during obama


[19-May-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
and trump never even tried


[19-May-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
and trump straight up gave away a lot of what we had left to china back in january


[19-May-20 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-May-20 01:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Heart Attack Heart Attack Heart Attack
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Trump taking unproven drug to ward off coronavirus
The president says hydroxychloroquine is harmless, though experts warn it may cause heart problems.
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[19-May-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Inbox: Trump Campaign Announces Launch of 'Truth Over Facts' Investigative Website

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[19-May-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> Truth over facts
what the hell does that mean


[19-May-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
is truth not a fact now?\


[19-May-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a reference to a Biden gaffe


[19-May-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They put out a John Frakes parody video or something


[19-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Focusing on the gaffes is a mistake, people don't care about them.


[19-May-20 03:46 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/marijuana-coronavirus-prevention-weed-cannabis-covid-19-canada-study-a9521166.html

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Cannabis extracts may help to prevent coronavirus, study suggests
CBD 'may become a useful and safe addition to the treatment of Covid-19 as an adjunct therapy
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[19-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicines to prevent an infection taking hold in the immediate future are in general not very useful.


[19-May-20 03:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-risky-new-re-election-strategy-waging-war-obama-n1209561

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Trump's risky new re-election strategy: Waging war with Obama
Brandishing conspiracy theories, the president is trying to rile up his base by leaning into a battle with a predecessor whose popularity exceeds his.
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[19-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a large use of resources that comes with side effects for a potential danger.


[19-May-20 03:48 AM] illumnious#7938
Shit @Kiryu-Chan I need to get my ass high then


[19-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Focusing on Obama, who is still well liked, and Biden's gaffes, which are incidental, is a mistake


[19-May-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how so?


[19-May-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Joe acts like he's on the verge of Alzheimers.


[19-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's everyone's quirky grandpa.


[19-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also he has an image of being bros with a popular president.


[19-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at him

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[19-May-20 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also most of his sexual scandals boil down to "he patted someone on the shoulder once"


[19-May-20 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As opposed to "he repeatedly barged into the dressing room of the beauty pageants he was hosting and almost certainly fondled multiple people and that's just the start let's not forget that he very much did pay off a pornstar among other things"


[19-May-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Convenient historical revisionism is a right-wing tool. It tends not to work on the people taking notes


[19-May-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, think about it: When is the last time you heard anything about Burisma in Trump's tirades about looking into Joe? Tara Reade came along, now Joe is a rapist and always has been so we'd better lock him up for being a rapist. Never mind that whole "AG William Barr personally visited foreign countries to dig up political dirt on this man," no one remembers that, right


[19-May-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burisma was given up on because Biden became the presumptive nominee and could hammer Trump with "Oh the thing you got impeached for because you were afraid of me, right?"


[19-May-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and because it is too esoteric for people to care about


[19-May-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
plus the ukranian mook who flipped and released a treasure trove of stuff that just Looked Bad for trump regarding the entire thing


[19-May-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The veracity and usability of it all is rather suspect but boy oh boy did they just want him to shut up and go away


[19-May-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reade is untrustworthy.


[19-May-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And even assuming everything she said is true, it's being argued by the guy who proved sex scandals are irrelevant


[19-May-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only sex scandal that would actually hurt a candidate


[19-May-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would be a female candidate who is accused of falsely accusing a man of rape


[19-May-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything else can be spun.


[19-May-20 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-May-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-May-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We need to kill people of a pandemic now so I can put people on Mars to pick up rocks and advertise some streaming service in ten years


[19-May-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People who 'fucking love science' need to learn Mars is a barren wasteland that would need _an artificial magnetosphere_ in order to turn into a second Earth


[19-May-20 07:33 AM] jlun2#8758
technology is a magic wand that'll solve all our world's problems according to tech bros
||even if said tech is almost certainly a fucking app||


[19-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem isn't the magnetosphere, it's the atmosphere.


[19-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where are you going to get that much CO2?


[19-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you just going to turn like the entire first inch of Mars soil into gas? How?


[19-May-20 07:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's why we want to put humans up there. Humans generate CO2 from the oxygen in the air


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:smugcaddy:


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would basically need to start throwing a hundred comets a day at Mars to get a good atmosphere going in a few centuries.


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Cloudy#3004
we gonna nuke the poles


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There aren't enuff nukes.


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could throw comets at the poles but it would take a lot of fuel.


[19-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd basically need to mine out half the asteroid belt to throw a fraction of it at Mars.


[19-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This could easily take thousands of years.


[19-May-20 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
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Silica aerogel could make Mars habitable
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[19-May-20 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
> The researchers suggest that regions of the Martian surface could be made habitable with a material—silica aerogel—that mimics Earth's atmospheric greenhouse effect. Through modeling and experiments, the researchers show that a two to three-centimeter-thick shield of silica aerogel could transmit enough visible light for photosynthesis, block hazardous ultraviolet radiation, and raise temperatures underneath permanently above the melting point of water, all without the need for any internal heat source.


[19-May-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How will you keep an atmosphere in without a magnetosphere


[19-May-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I guess for atmosphere you could deorbit Mars' moons?


[19-May-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also "not enuff nukes" sounds like a challenge


[19-May-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mars' moons are tiny.


[19-May-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you've gotta realize that the removal of the atmosphere takes a very long time.


[19-May-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
How to keep the atmosphere in is a problem for a million years.


[19-May-20 08:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
How to get an atmosphere in the first place is a problem right away.


[19-May-20 08:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> a problem for a million years
can't wait for them to boomer it and shove it to future gens until it fucks them over


[19-May-20 09:08 AM] Cloudy#3004
^


[19-May-20 10:59 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/coronavirus/article242773056.html


[19-May-20 11:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nancy-pelosi-calls-trump-morbidly-obese-in-warning-against-hydroxychloroquine

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Nancy Pelosi Calls Trump ‘Morbidly Obese’
The House speaker made her comments as a way of warning the president against taking the unapproved drug hydroxychloroquine.
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[19-May-20 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol u fat

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[19-May-20 12:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Haha


[19-May-20 03:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[19-May-20 03:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not inconsistent.


[19-May-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
an individual has the right to leverage power over another. The call to do so might not be the correct one, but not fundamentally _wrong_.


[19-May-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
the government cannot leverage power over it's citizens, full stop.


[19-May-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
flawed and perhaps amoral, but quite cohesive position.


[19-May-20 04:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1262741536757870592?s=21

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Saint Hoax (@SaintHoax)
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1262741536757870592?s=21
Trump is gonna unleash his inner Regina George on Pelosi 🍿 https://t.co/PYAwKjQq2M
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[19-May-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What a cursed thought


[19-May-20 04:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1262745377918160899?s=21

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Maybe he’s born with it, maybe it hydroxychloroquine https://t.co/MbcUkpr7jR
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[19-May-20 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1262577580718395393?s=21

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This is the letter sent to Dr. Tedros of the World Health Organization. It is self-explanatory!
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[19-May-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
is actually mostly sane


[19-May-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Chicken scratch handwriting nigga

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[19-May-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
you can tell it was written by staffers


[19-May-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Pretty much


[19-May-20 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
I literally can’t take it anymore with Trump’s chicken scratch signature


[19-May-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh wow, oh fucking wow https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1262563582086184970?s=21

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.@FoxNews is no longer the same. We miss the great Roger Ailes. You have more anti-Trump people, by far, than ever before. Looking for a new outlet! https://t.co/jXxsF0flUM
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[19-May-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Goddam


[19-May-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
he's not happy that fox might have a shred of journalistic integrity


[19-May-20 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Neil Cavuto and a few doctors on his section warned against taking hydroxi


[19-May-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So that's enough for him to ignore the following 6h of Hannity, Ingrahm, and I guess Tucker telesucking his dick and praising his glorious wisdom while mocking "the media" and "the left" for daring to question Trump


[19-May-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Onion paper is thicker than Trump's skin


[19-May-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tf is onion paper


[19-May-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is it edible?


[19-May-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onionskin

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Onionskin
Onionskin or onion skin is a thin, light-weight, strong, often translucent paper.  Though not made from onions, it superficially resembles their thin, papery skins. It was usually used with carbon paper for typing duplicates in a typewriter, for permanent records where low bul...
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[19-May-20 05:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, that


[19-May-20 05:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In spanish it's called paper, not skin...


[19-May-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.zdnet.com/article/australian-poll-finds-1-in-8-blame-bill-gates-and-5g-for-coronavirus/

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Australian poll finds 1 in 8 blame Bill Gates and 5G for coronaviru...
Misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic is being believed more often with young people, an Essential poll has said.
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[19-May-20 05:47 PM] jlun2#8758
does this mean they'll actually boycott 5g phones if on sale?


[19-May-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
ofc not, don't be silly.


[19-May-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, they'll buy up 5g phones liek candy and then wonder why they arent getting a signal after burning down all the 5g towers


[19-May-20 06:14 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds about right


[19-May-20 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[19-May-20 06:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
5g signal range is shit. I doubt many people would be getting a 5g signal even if all the towers were up.


[19-May-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a technology made for big cities


[19-May-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
locations where cell infrastructure is commonplace and visible everywhere


[19-May-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is obese by BMI.


[19-May-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
He dodged his doctor saying it by wearing higher shoes.

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[19-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
BMI?


[19-May-20 07:07 PM] byte[]#2610
body mass index


[19-May-20 07:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh


[19-May-20 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
a body measurement of questionable utility


[19-May-20 07:08 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[19-May-20 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also known as DTI


[19-May-20 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dummy Thicc Index


[19-May-20 07:09 PM] byte[]#2610
directly measuring body fat proportion (using calipers or DC current resistance) is far less primitive and should have become the standard


[19-May-20 07:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait no i posted that before lol


[19-May-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/19/florida-covid-19-coronavirus-data-researcher-out-state-reopens/5218897002/

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Florida's scientist was fired for refusing to 'manipulate' COVID-19...
Researchers fear a wave of data censorship after the manager of Florida's COVID-19 dashboard is removed from her post.
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[19-May-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> she was fired because she was ordered to censor some data, but refused to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen."


[19-May-20 07:24 PM] Midknight#9798
I mean, body builders are obese by BMI, too.

But Don Don's probably never lifted a weight in his life.


[19-May-20 07:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A triple bigmac, maybe


[19-May-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/498406-texas-north-carolina-arizona-see-rising-cases-as-they-reopen

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Texas, North Carolina, Arizona see rising cases as they reopen
Texas, North Carolina and Arizona are among the states seeing rising numbers of coronavirus cases, intensifying concerns as they seek to reopen shuttered economies.
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[19-May-20 08:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I love the "intensifying concerns" in the summary


[19-May-20 08:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
As if they had no idea this was going to happen


[19-May-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) noted the tensions around reopening on Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” saying his state is at a “plateau” in new cases when he would rather see a decline.
> 
> “This is really probably the most crucial time, the most dangerous time, because we are opening back up, because we have to open back up,” he said. “But, at the same time, that creates more exposure, more opportunity for this virus to spread.”


[19-May-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Look, I'd like to see cases go down, but I need billionaires to donate to my re-election campaign and they're threatening not to unless i reopen the state, so I'm going to have to sacrifice my people for my campaign funds!"


[19-May-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
in fairness, the lockdown can't last forever.


[19-May-20 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Can it?


[19-May-20 08:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-coronavirus-numbers-made-reopening-183733274.html

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Georgia's coronavirus data made reopening look safe. The numbers we...
Georgia officials bungled the data in a way that's hard to believe wasn't on purpose.
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[19-May-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/verumserum/status/1261760906490294273?s=19

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From the Washington Post Magazine profile of Stacey Abrams:
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[19-May-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why would you have this picture taken


[19-May-20 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I lack so much context


[19-May-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bakklighting always looks cool.


[19-May-20 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's easy to make fat jokes with this


[19-May-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I guess.


[19-May-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Makes me think of Darth Vader.


[19-May-20 08:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also remember Democrats are never allowed to positively write about any potential candidate ever or they get accused of shilling


[19-May-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, just liberals.


[19-May-20 08:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that is more accurate.


[19-May-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the whole system is for conservatives to say all candidates are just bribing people, everything is money.


[19-May-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Praise a conservative? You expect later monetary reward.


[19-May-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Praise a liberal? Liberals don't giv out money later, so you must've been bribed beforehand instead, and are therefore dishonest.


[19-May-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/498366-bidens-virtual-campaign-speech-repeatedly-interrupted-by-geese

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Biden's virtual campaign speech repeatedly interrupted by geese
Former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was met with repeated interruptions during his virtual campaign speech on Monday even as he delivered it from the comforts of his own Delawa
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[19-May-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK


[19-May-20 08:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
With all the talk about reopening and these stories coming out about states opening and numbers spiking I was compelled to post on FB:

> Putting it out there: ya'll better not all go running crying to someone if reopening spikes the numbers. 

> Rat rat, I am the plague rat.


[19-May-20 08:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
wdym re-opening is going to increase numbers of a highly contagious asymptomatic virus????


[19-May-20 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
I now worship COVID-19 and it is against my religious liberties to eliminate the virus


[19-May-20 08:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
I pray every night it infects and kills the vaccine teams before viciously mutating.


[19-May-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Liberals will still appoint you to something for praise


[19-May-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I shilled your candidacy, make me ambassador to Luxembourg or something


[19-May-20 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
New level of night terror I never thought I'd have: RBG croaks before October


[19-May-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[19-May-20 08:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 RBG somehow outlives the Trump presidency and whoever is next.


[19-May-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
What if Trump dies in October a day before RBG?


[19-May-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who's RBG? That progressive SCOTUS judge who keeps the balance?


[19-May-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ruth Bader Ginsberg


[19-May-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://thegrio.com/2020/05/19/suspects-sister-photo-ahmaud-arbery-snapchat/

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Biba Adams
https://thegrio.com/2020/05/19/suspects-sister-photo-ahmaud-arbery-snapchat/
Suspect's sister posted photo of Ahmaud Arbery's body on Snapchat
Lindsay McMichael, the sister of one of the suspects in the slaying of Ahmaud Arbery and daughter of the other, posted an unedited photo of Arbery's body on her Snapchat.
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[19-May-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[19-May-20 09:36 PM] illumnious#7938

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[19-May-20 09:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
For some reason, *incel* is trending in Canada


[19-May-20 09:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/19/toronto-attack-incel-terrorism-canada-police

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Canada police say machete killing was 'incel' terror attack
Authorities say they have evidence tying Toronto attack in which a woman was murdered and two others injured to ‘incel’ movement
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[19-May-20 09:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh


[19-May-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They had the original incel mass murder


[19-May-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some Quebecois in the late 80s who blamed feminism for everything


[19-May-20 10:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And this guy got *terrorism* charges.


[19-May-20 10:02 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Meanwhile in the states you can rain gunfire upon a casino and get slapped with something like "distraught armed gunman".


[19-May-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
remember this from two years ago https://i.imgur.com/RTmu2QZ.jpg

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[19-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the guy that ran down several with a van, if the name didn't click


[19-May-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jane-roe-confesses-anti-abortion-conversion-all-an-act-paid-for-by-the-christian-right

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Jane Roe’s Deathbed Confession: Anti-Abortion Conversion ‘All an Ac...
The new FX documentary “AKA Jane Roe,” out May 22, contains a shocking revelation: Roe (of “Roe v. Wade” fame) played the part of an anti-abortion crusader in exchange for money.
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[19-May-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/disney-says-cant-held-responsible-153523125.html

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Disney Says It Can't Be Held Responsible For You Getting COVID-19
A new disclaimer puts the risk on the visitors.
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[19-May-20 11:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Meanwhile on Twitter

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[19-May-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
>implying a random twitter user is meaningful


[19-May-20 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@illumnious bro please be more coherent most of the time


[20-May-20 12:10 AM] illumnious#7938
> @illumnious bro please be more coherent most of the time
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  sorry about that, I was busy at work this particular user kept saying shit about she doesn’t wear a mask


[20-May-20 12:13 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kyhighh/status/1262770625816518660?s=21

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Petty liberals. Petty petty. All die-hard liberals should go live on their own island complete with rubber dildos and unlimited face masks.  #PresidentPlump
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[20-May-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
This draws my attention https://twitter.com/kyhighh/status/1262710032573116419?s=21

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No more masks since twitter hidin’ the hashtag #masks #gayfrogs
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[20-May-20 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
can I live on an island with silicone dildos instead


[20-May-20 12:20 AM] illumnious#7938
Haha


[20-May-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
@WingbeatPony you sure do love dildos


[20-May-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll taker your offer for a private island covered in dildos


[20-May-20 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/29/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit-steven-donziger/

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How the Environmental Lawyer Who Won a Massive Judgment Against Che...
Steven Donziger won a multibillion-dollar judgment against Chevron in Ecuador. The company sued him in New York, and now he’s under house arrest.
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[20-May-20 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine winning the largest environmental case in history in defense of Ecuador against Chevron, who has enough capital to clean up its mess but it would rather go on a campaign of total war to imprison you, the victor.


[20-May-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno what he was expecting


[20-May-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Other than an accident / early heart attack


[20-May-20 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw bourgeoisie law


[20-May-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/Carter_PE/status/1262717007620911105

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Huh: “thousands of [National Guard] members who first deployed in late March will find themselves with only 89 days of duty credit, one short of the 90-day threshold for qualifying for early retirement and education benefits under the Post-9/11 GI bill.” https://t.co/xClUZhlB...
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[20-May-20 12:53 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1262870778036486144?s=21

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Here's Obamagate. Obama wanted everything done by the book, asked for nothing, and deferred to the FBI in terms of intelligence security-related guidance. What crime is this, again? https://t.co/5fiGzLTtnc
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[20-May-20 12:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/1262823519303299072?s=21

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Our ⁦@CBS_Herridge⁩ has obtained this UNREDACTED version of the memo to file Susan Rice sent on her last day at the WH. 

A prior release left out the advice Comey was said to give to Obama, re: NSC briefings for Flynn.
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[20-May-20 12:55 AM] illumnious#7938
Retards


[20-May-20 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
30 seconds and I have the Republican spin - this document is quoting Comey on being "by the book" but as you may recall, the Steele Dossier and FISA warrants and lying and and and


[20-May-20 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
therefore obama bad


[20-May-20 01:01 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/johnson-johnson-to-stop-selling-talc-based-johnsons-baby-powder-in-us-canada

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Johnson & Johnson to stop selling talc-based Johnson's Baby Powder ...
NEW YORK (REUTERS) - Johnson & Johnson on Tuesday (May 19) announced that it would stop selling its talc-based Johnson's Baby Powder in the United States and Canada, saying it was part of a broad reassessment of its consumer product portfolio prompted by the coronavirus pandem...
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[20-May-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I wasn't aware there was any talc in that


[20-May-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
thought it was mostly cornstarch


[20-May-20 01:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[20-May-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally has nothing to do with how for years they were giving people cancer and didn't want to admit it.


[20-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/498637-leaked-pentagon-memo-warns-coronavirus-pandemic-could-last-until-summer-2021

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A leaked Pentagon memo on Tuesday revealed that top Defense Department officials have been planning for the possibility that the military could be dealing with a “globally-persistent” coronavirus pandemic well into 2021.
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[20-May-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even during the times we thought asbestos was a miracle material, we knew inhaling rock particles was bad


[20-May-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why was talcum powder ever a thing?


[20-May-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought it was all cornstarch to begin with tbh...


[20-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers, Its.


[20-May-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No I mean as a concept it makes sense to exist


[20-May-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But people knew inhaling rock dust was bad in the 1800s


[20-May-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It felt soft


[20-May-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and absorbed moisture


[20-May-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude most Boomers don't know that asbestos is a type of rokk.


[20-May-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I bet you many of them would say it's a liquid that you impregnate into sheetrokk to make it fireproof.


[20-May-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers grew up in an era where you only went to school to get a job, and jobs only required high school at most, @Itsthinking


[20-May-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they weren't in construction or geology, they had no clue what "asbestos" really was other than it might be something in the roof.


[20-May-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Society* knew inhaling rokk dust was bad.


[20-May-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Individual people are mostly morons unless you make them shower in knowledge constantly.


[20-May-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
:byte: 🚿  📖


[20-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> No more masks since twitter hidin’ the hashtag #masks #gayfrog
All I'm thinking of are fat frogs in masks now

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[20-May-20 02:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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We’re ending free movement to open Britain up to the world. 

It will ensure people can come to our country based on what they have to offer, not where they come from.
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[20-May-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks, UK, anti-anglo gang appreciates your effort


[20-May-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
More like "It will ensure people can come to our country based on who their daddy was, not whether we've got a good idea their country keeps tabs on terrorists."


[20-May-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ok cool, so you're ending the Chinese from getting golden tickets right


[20-May-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Right_


[20-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically saying people with money come with no chekks at all.


[20-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People without don't come, period.


[20-May-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the plan has always been.


[20-May-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ridiculous security measures were never really to stop terrorists.


[20-May-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were just to make it more of a hassle.


[20-May-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
speaking of inhaling rocks


[20-May-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-May-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> inhaling rocks


[20-May-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You mean cocaine right


[20-May-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:xd:


[20-May-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The asbestos industry is interesting because they were once super powerful and adamantly fought every suggestion that asbestos was harmful, then slowly faded away


[20-May-20 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-May-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-May-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
sound


[20-May-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
tim ryan


[20-May-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
D


[20-May-20 05:57 AM] Crow#5457
ohio


[20-May-20 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
taking on the role of hysterical liberal


[20-May-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/498643-two-southern-churches-forced-to-reclose-after-leaders-and

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Two churches in Georgia and Texas that reopened recently amid the novel coronavirus pandemic have since closed their doors again after churchgoers and religious leaders tested positive for the virus, according to multiple media reports.
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[20-May-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-removed-watchdog-investigating-elaine-chao-mcconnell-vetted-replacement/

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Trump Just Removed the IG Investigating Elaine Chao. Chao’s Husband...
How can the American people expect transparency and accountability when the watchdogs must pass a loyalty test?
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[20-May-20 12:47 PM] Opponent#3498
```How can the American people expect transparency and accountability``` :wheeze:


[20-May-20 12:47 PM] Opponent#3498
masterful comedy right there.


[20-May-20 01:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Wha

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[20-May-20 01:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-cases-us-covid-death-toll-a9523166.html

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‘I look at that in a certain respect as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better’
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[20-May-20 01:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Pompeo's elite taxpayer-funded dinners raise new concerns https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pompeo-s-elite-taxpayer-funded-dinners-raise-new-concerns-n1210746

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Pompeo's elite taxpayer-funded dinners raise new concerns
The secretary of state's exclusive "Madison Dinners" have featured guest lists heavy on influencers but light on diplomatic invitees.
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[20-May-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if someone investigates it, they too shall be fired and replaced with a yesman!


[20-May-20 01:26 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not technically wrong.


[20-May-20 01:26 PM] Opponent#3498
most of the world likely shows super low numbers because their testing is even worse.


[20-May-20 01:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I know it's absolutely true for ex-USSR nations.


[20-May-20 01:26 PM] illumnious#7938
‪Cases in Russia top 300,000 cases as outbreak shifts beyond Moscow https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-05-20-coronavirus-news-n1210986/ncrd1211031‬

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Coronavirus live updates: Justice Department warns California on ch...
Here are the latest coronavirus updates from around the world.
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[20-May-20 01:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's the officially reported ones.


[20-May-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
the 'pneumonia' cases are deliberately left out.


[20-May-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
they're just a bit smarter at presenting the image than China is.


[20-May-20 01:32 PM] illumnious#7938
So far

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[20-May-20 01:33 PM] illumnious#7938
Jesus America


[20-May-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kroger-will-no-longer-ask-frontline-workers-it-overpaid-to-give-back-the-money-2020-05-19

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Kroger will no longer ask frontline workers it overpaid to give bac...
Kroger Co. undefined said Tuesday that it will no longer pursue repayment of overpaid benefits from its associates. "We've instructed our payroll department...
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[20-May-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-May-20 02:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
If America's death toll doubles to 200,000 we reach a scale comparable to many genocides. By comparison then we can charge Trump with Demicide.


[20-May-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
only some of those are preventable.


[20-May-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
would be preventable, rather.


[20-May-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
so not quite as easy as that.


[20-May-20 03:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Demicide as a concept doesn't really care if the deaths are preventable or not but can be traced to a failure of policies under a particular leadership. It's usually defined as mass deaths without regard to race or creed or politics unlike genocide or politicide, but that the number of deaths occur anyways. 200,000 or something is the point at which you'd pass into the death tolls of many historical small-time genocides and America's failed COVID response becomes comparable.


[20-May-20 03:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually wait, it seems 400-1000 is the smallest genocide, which is the extermination of the aboriginal Tasmanians.


[20-May-20 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Crusaderbo's be like, "time to liberate a neighborhood"

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[20-May-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[20-May-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
and stopped eating avocado toast too

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[20-May-20 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck PETA

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[20-May-20 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/peta/status/1263116024725061635?s=21

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PETA - Killing Animals Kills Us All (@peta)
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Killing animals kills us all.

It doesn’t matter whether you’re a cow murdered for hamburgers, a marginalized slaughterhouse worker exposed to deadly diseases, or someone infected with the zoonotic #coronavirus.
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[20-May-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Isn’t wonderful when PETA is totally at their shit right now?


[20-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/peta/status/1262729784762798080?s=21

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A cultural reset 🦉🐟 #AnimalCrossingNewHorizons https://t.co/2kfMnTUeRX
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[20-May-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] ive been cooking homemade toast for 2 months wheres my new house

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[20-May-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Animals exist to serve man and be served by man


[20-May-20 08:26 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[20-May-20 08:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to take a semester class to understand this shitpost


[20-May-20 08:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/small-boats-stuck-at-sea-covid-19/index.html


[20-May-20 09:00 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/science/evidence-suggests-sun-entering-solar-minimum-stage-reports

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Evidence suggests sun entering ‘solar minimum’ stage: reports
There have been 100 days since there were any recorded sunspots, which one expert says is evidence that we are entering a phase called solar minimum, reports said.
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[20-May-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
definitely not politics content


[20-May-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
something about millenial liberals causing the sun to dim probably


[20-May-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll turn into politics
"See, we don't have to worry about global warming, GOD HIMSELF told the Sun to chill, so it's fine!"


[20-May-20 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
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Oh, Canada
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[20-May-20 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
canada is communist confirmed

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[20-May-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
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Please share.
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[20-May-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
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Not my
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[20-May-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-May-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
> He’s so fat he can’t cross his arms properly.


[20-May-20 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-May-20 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's sad, he crosses his arms to stop them from shaking


[21-May-20 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HT8Gaykjo

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Well There's Your Problem Podcast
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Well There's Your Problem | Episode 27: Bhopal Disaster (Part 2)
In this episode we talk about man-made mass death and destruction on a scale completely unprecedented in history. fun!
The Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wtyppod

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slide 1 chemical plant
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[21-May-20 01:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Did these guys ever cover the love canal disaster? That was, like, the start of the idea of superfund sites


[21-May-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
oh wing 💦 😩 👌 😩 you can make a disaster in my love canal

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[21-May-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
babies are living disasters, yes


[21-May-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[21-May-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism is a joke.


[21-May-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not the funny kind.


[21-May-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-May-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498689-trump-threatens-to-withhold-michigan-funding-over-mail-in-voting

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President Trump on Wednesday threatened to withhold federal funding to Michigan after its secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson (D), announced all of the state’s registered voters would receive applications for absentee
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[21-May-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-May-20 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some dude shot up a waffle house again because he didn't wanna wear a mask. Meanwhile https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551863071581274152/712871249004462120/Screenshot_20200520-223540.jpg

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[21-May-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/techjoffrey/status/1263310969729691648?s=19

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Snapchat story appears to show man claiming to be Westgate, Arizona shooter https://t.co/6fKUd7633p
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[21-May-20 06:35 AM] jimm#1439

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[21-May-20 06:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/19/florida-covid-19-coronavirus-data-researcher-out-state-reopens/5218897002/

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Florida's scientist was fired for refusing to 'manipulate' COVID-19...
Researchers fear a wave of data censorship after the manager of Florida's COVID-19 dashboard is removed from her post.
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[21-May-20 06:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't know why but that butter knife makes me laugh


[21-May-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I have no idea what it means


[21-May-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that the British will ban knives and that's ridiculous after banning guns cause murders still happen.


[21-May-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a conservative meme that it's a problem to restrict what kinds of knives can be sold.


[21-May-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that butter knives would be targeted.


[21-May-20 07:25 AM] jimm#1439

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[21-May-20 07:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```It's a conservative meme that it's a problem to restrict what kinds of knives can be sold.```


[21-May-20 07:31 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[21-May-20 07:31 AM] Opponent#3498
goes amazingly well with the pics above.


[21-May-20 07:32 AM] jimm#1439
it's great in Texas where you can carry swords now


[21-May-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans have a culture of anger and violence that is the bigger issue


[21-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they do not.


[21-May-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Americans hav a culture of believing that being armed makes things safer, instead of taking basic safety measures.


[21-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you prevent tragedies is not to hav every dumbass ready to kill everyone else in the room at all times.


[21-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically half of the countries in the world hav the level of anger and violence the US does, @Itsthinking


[21-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they tend to hav much lower problems with this shit.


[21-May-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because USUALLY they go "hmm, maybe it was a bad idea to just hav everyone be armed"


[21-May-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK has almost identical culture to the US in regards to violence.


[21-May-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it has like no gun crime.


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
```Because USUALLY they go "hmm, maybe it was a bad idea to just hav everyone be armed"```
usually it's a relic of a totalitarian regime of one type or another.


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totalitarian regimes hav nothing to do with this


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Opponent#3498
of course it was a bad idea to have everyone armed. Or educated. Or have any rights at all.


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
large poverty/inequality almost inevitably leads to lots of crime


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
lots of crime means lots of violence involved


[21-May-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can mitigate the worst of the violence by making it harder for criminals to get better weapons.


[21-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, Japan had extreme amounts of conflict during its feudal period


[21-May-20 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
you're only disarming the innocent. The criminals will find ways anyway. Re: post-USSR, 90ies. Balkans, etc.


[21-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know how they stopped it and united the country?


[21-May-20 07:51 AM] Opponent#3498
killed everyone who resisted, knowing Japan.


[21-May-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a while, yes


[21-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
but there kept being uprisings, over and over again


[21-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
put out one fire a new one springs up


[21-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
totalitarians killing totalitarians


[21-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
because every fukking peasant had a weapon lying around


[21-May-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of peasants with weapons lying around = army out of nowhere = totalitarian coup


[21-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually someone got just enuff control to ban peasant ownership of weapons while telling everyone to go to war with Korea


[21-May-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
After that it was a lot harder for other people to try to kill the gov't and take everything for themselves and things majorly stabilized.


[21-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern Japan would not be a relatively peaceful democracy if that didn't happen.


[21-May-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They probably would've had civil wars well into the late 19th century.


[21-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the ones who banned peasant ownership, while not exactly wanting democracy or whatever, were the ones who were a bit more into the idea of long-term alliances instead of just constant warfare.


[21-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically two big clans said "you know what, we shouldn't fight".


[21-May-20 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
well it helped that instead of fighting themselves, they fought China and others within reach, as a part of core national doctrine.


[21-May-20 07:56 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much constantly.


[21-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, point is, having lots of weapons lying around leads to them being used.


[21-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're not in a big war that's funneling all the weapons away, and they're distributed among people who aren't at least *trained* in military matters and so might not be all that disciplined, you're going to end up with a lot of random violence.


[21-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
People do what's easy.


[21-May-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make it hard for them to randomly kill each other.


[21-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democracy can't exist when violence is easy and voting is hard.


[21-May-20 08:00 AM] jimm#1439
yet it's existing right now


[21-May-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly, it's not a good idea for like, normal police forces to all hav weapons all the time.


[21-May-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's existing now because the US has a lot of inertia and there was a big downswing in violence as standards of living got good in the 90s.


[21-May-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But giv us a few decades from what we hav now and Democracy will die in a fire.


[21-May-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much all the systems to hold politicians accountable hav been destroyed by Republicans and they're heavily assaulting the voting system.


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, they're making sure weapons are abundant, but mostly for white people.


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're talking 'a few decades', the guns are the least of your worries.


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guns are a big component of the problem.


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Democrats try to do things correctly, crowds with guns show up at statehouses, and Republicans say it's their right.


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Opponent#3498
either Trump sticks around, and democracy turns into a monarchy immediately by 2021, or Democrats win and sell you off to corporations. Take all the guns, and instead hand out pills to work double overtime :3


[21-May-20 08:03 AM] Opponent#3498
regardless, though, you're screwed.


[21-May-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crowds with guns will inevitably fire them at some point, but they don't hav to to cause issues.


[21-May-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The mere threat can make politicians bow to pressure and as a result, Republicans corrupt the whole process.


[21-May-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could be gone, but if you still get a ton of crazies threatening to shoot Democrats the moment they say "maybe we should listen to this expert", you'll still hav Democracy as a whole erode.


[21-May-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's part of why Trump is so useful to Republicans as a figurehead. He's a wakko who believes in and promotes conspiracies from the top.


[21-May-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conspiracies get people to circumvent the normal process and start committing acts of violence.


[21-May-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's crucial to getting fascism going.


[21-May-20 01:29 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVzCilR1AwI

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[21-May-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/20/chinese-companies-must-play-by-american-rules-or-be-banned-from-us-exchanges-senate-rules/#7455bd2355cb

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Chinese Companies Must Play By American Rules Or Be Banned From U.S...
The new bill passed by the Senate would force Chinese companies to certify that “they are not owned or controlled by a foreign government.”
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[21-May-20 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
_**FOR A SMALL FEE**_


[21-May-20 03:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't you have to basically have a Party spy on your board of directors in China?


[21-May-20 04:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@AaronMk that meme showed all the political debate shit in China


[21-May-20 05:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, it's the "two meetings" time of China now


[21-May-20 05:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Political shitposts are doubled than usual


[21-May-20 05:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially under the accounts of representatives


[21-May-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-pledges-scrap-600-boost-coronavirus-unemployment-benefits-2020-5

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Mitch McConnell pledges to scrap a newly enacted $600 boost in week...
Democrats are pressing to extend the benefits. It's forming a rift over the size and scale of the next coronavirus relief package.
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[21-May-20 05:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Both President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have recently pushed a controversial theory that the coronavirus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China, though there is no evidence supporting this claim.


[21-May-20 05:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
No evidence, *except for all the evidence that indicates this is most likely the case*


[21-May-20 05:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Forbes enjoying the last of their Tencent money


[21-May-20 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
controversial -> conspiracy


[21-May-20 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
people seem to be deliberately conflating 'originated in a lab' and 'military-grade virus designed by China'. And, yeah, no evidence of the latter. Just gross mismanagement.


[21-May-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498940-trump-to-withdraw-from-open-skies-treaty

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Trump to withdraw from Open Skies Treaty
President Trump plans to withdraw from another major arms control agreement, the Open Skies Treaty, multiple sources confirmed to The Hill on Thursday.
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[21-May-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, he made peace with the fact he _is_ losing to Biden, and so wants to fuck up as much as possible as quickly as possible.


[21-May-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
might as well attempt to nuke China I suppose.


[21-May-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
the fallout can't get into penthouse anyway.


[21-May-20 07:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently Trump went off the rails again on Twitter and accused Joe Scarborough of murder


[21-May-20 07:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because that's a totally normal thing the president of the United States would do


[21-May-20 07:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/20/politics/donald-trump-conspiracy-theory-tweets/index.html

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Trump's tweets offer snapshot of conspiracy mindset
Murder. Fraud. Miscarriage of justice.
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[21-May-20 08:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nasa.gov/specials/dm2/

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NASA Launch America
Launch America - a partnership between NASA and private space companies – will help open the space above Earth to people besides government astronauts.
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wat 

[21-May-20 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
well, sure, why not.


[21-May-20 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta start somewhere.


[21-May-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
If NASA had a great budget, sure.


[21-May-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't. This is just to justify stripping more so private companies can be the ones killing astronauts.


[21-May-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what else does NASA stand for


[21-May-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Need Another Seven Astronauts"


[21-May-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/business/media/joe-rogan-spotify-contract.html

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Joe Rogan Strikes an Exclusive, Multiyear Deal With Spotify
The deal with Joe Rogan, a provocative podcast host with millions of listeners, is the latest move by Spotify to expand outside music.
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[21-May-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
> Joe Rogan, the brash comedian turned hugely popular podcast host, is moving to Spotify.
> 
> Mr. Rogan announced the deal on Instagram, telling his 9.5 million followers that the podcast would move to Spotify on Sept. 1, in an agreement that further cements Spotify’s evolution from a music streaming service to a behemoth purveyor of all kinds of online audio.
> 
> The company did not disclose the financial details of the agreement to license the podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience.” But The Wall Street Journal, citing an anonymous source, reported it could be worth more than $100 million based on the podcast’s performance metrics and other factors.


[21-May-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[21-May-20 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
he's basically being paid $100 million to become a spotify exclusive podcaster


[21-May-20 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like there won't be recordings of his stuff on YT a day after


[21-May-20 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So, hard to see the point...


[21-May-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[21-May-20 09:16 PM] illumnious#7938
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[21-May-20 09:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck 2020


[21-May-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938

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[21-May-20 09:47 PM] jlun2#8758
> end of meat
:ponythinking:


[21-May-20 09:47 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm sure they'll be fine


[21-May-20 09:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/opinion/coronavirus-meat-vegetarianism.amp.html#click=https://t.co/Us8NpsPBaw

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By Jonathan Safran Foer
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Opinion | The End of Meat Is Here
If you care about the working poor, about racial justice, and about climate change, you have to stop eating animals.
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[21-May-20 09:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Are you sure?


[21-May-20 09:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Damn. I guess I either stop eating meat or I can't be black anymore


[21-May-20 09:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> *A 2015 study found that a vegetarian diet is $750 a year cheaper than a meat-based diet.*


[21-May-20 09:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Aight now show me a 2020 study


[21-May-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
potato chips every meal


[21-May-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When people talk about squashing the beef they didn't mean this


[21-May-20 09:59 PM] byte[]#2610
🥔 chips


[21-May-20 09:59 PM] illumnious#7938
lol


[21-May-20 10:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://trib.al/hT7GVN8


[21-May-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
what link is "trib.al"


[21-May-20 10:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
those customary diets are way more expensive


[21-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Redirect to Bloomberg


[21-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-21/senate-confirms-trump-loyalist-ratcliffe-as-intelligence-chief


[21-May-20 10:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/rube44/status/1263487120246812675?s=21

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Ego and ineptitude aren’t a good combination remember that https://t.co/4ByFTXBVa8
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[21-May-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been working great for him so far


[21-May-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just need to ensure your party is full of spineless lackeys and put nothing but yesmen sycophants in every position possible


[21-May-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-May-20 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I figure next week is when numbers start going back up big time


[21-May-20 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Number big life bad

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[21-May-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, cases in "it's just a little flu" Brazil are going way up, and deaths from "pneumonia" are skyrocketing across Russia


[21-May-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1263551045977780224

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[21-May-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no.


[21-May-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Please find out that she like, ate small children or something.


[21-May-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You have her throwing staplers


[21-May-20 11:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
'least it wasn't Harris


[21-May-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499048-demings-says-shes-on-bidens-vp-short-list

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Demings says she's on Biden's VP short list
Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.) said Thursday she’s on the “short list” of candidates that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is considering to be his running mate.
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[21-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I can already feel the intense heat from all the tweets and opinion pieces of "Biden could have chosen the first woman of color VP. Why did he drop the ball?"


[21-May-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"America finally had the chance to move forward. What happened?"


[21-May-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say maybe first black female AG but nope, that was Lynch


[21-May-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though a black woman is Biden's admitted first SCOTUS appointment


[21-May-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which will probably be Leondra Kruger (Justice of CA Supreme Court, only 43)


[21-May-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas will be so mad.


[21-May-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wouldn't pick a nominee a day over 50 unless they were irreplaceable really


[21-May-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh, I'd probably go "Find me the youngest candidate that has a reasonable chance"


[21-May-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody over 70 should be allowed in gov't.


[21-May-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they could find me someone like, 38, awesome


[21-May-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should pretty much be competency chekks that get more frequent as people get older.


[21-May-20 11:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie can't wait for them to take that idea and be like "you must be over 70 to be in govt"


[21-May-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Senate should be three terms max


[21-May-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
10 for House


[21-May-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Term limits do nothing.


[21-May-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lifetime (or near lifetime) lobbying ban?


[21-May-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lobbying illegalized.


[21-May-20 11:18 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds impossible to do in our life time


[21-May-20 11:21 PM] jimm#1439
> If you care about the working poor, about racial justice, and about climate change, you have to stop eating animals.
is anyone else tired of this format of nonsequitur? "if you don't support (completely unrelated thing) you can't support (completely unrelated thing)" I guess at least in this case it signals right away the article is garbage
"you can't call yourself a feminist if you aren't vegan" is the big historical example that sticks out in my memory


[21-May-20 11:22 PM] jlun2#8758
know what you mean, but never heard your example in my life


[21-May-20 11:24 PM] jimm#1439
climate change is somewhat related but the implication that it's impossible to have a nuanced position that helps climate change but doesn't ban meat is toxic


[21-May-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFr5ueDfh_Q

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The Stories We Tell are Contagious
Leo Cookman's Time’s Lie analyses the history, the science and the philosophy behind the creation of linear stories, or ‘Narrativisation’ as this book dubs it. In this video he explores the linear stories we've told about pandemics. Douglas Lain provided the narration for Cook...
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[22-May-20 12:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Klob can finally fix her major campaign mistake of not using "It's Kloberin' Time" as a slogan and then immediatly get sued into extinction by Disney

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[22-May-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just


[22-May-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just want to stop having to settle for the least stupid option


[22-May-20 01:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I now understand that the GOP's frequent characterization of Democrats as "incompetent" to mean "ineffective at selling themselves as a united front against a common enemy like Republicans do because they're too busy trying to appeal to everyone but especially the center"


[22-May-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
too busy murdering each other on twitter for some past post decades ago


[22-May-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Way too many toss ups IMO


[22-May-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In fact, deleted because so wrong.


[22-May-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slightly better

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[22-May-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would see this and go "haha I can't lose"


[22-May-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then complain when TINY BLUE THINGS beat BIG RED THINGS


[22-May-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
saying it must be fraud, and to count all of Texas' votes.


[22-May-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's hella optimistic


[22-May-20 02:16 AM] jimm#1439
I'm not really confident in biden's chances at all


[22-May-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are swinging to the opposite extreme of 2016


[22-May-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you, the hook


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida.


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] jimm#1439
I'd expect sanders to have gotten the nomination if people were switching to another extreme


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump will win Colorado but lose Florida


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida is a lot.


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No way will Trump lose Colorado


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's becoming a blue state.


[22-May-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He might get Nevada, maybe


[22-May-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could get all the Four Corners, it doesn't matter.


[22-May-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
F l o r i d a.


[22-May-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Florida is more than Miami-Dade


[22-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has had narrow, paper thin victories for Republicans for ages


[22-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now it has voting rights for blakks.


[22-May-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has no angle to make ex-felons vote for him.


[22-May-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was against them having voting rights.


[22-May-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being against voting rights for the people you want votes of is kind of defeating.


[22-May-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people who say there should be no mail-in voting ever


[22-May-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck soldiers voting I guess.


[22-May-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well they'd probably say that the commanding officers should vote for them.


[22-May-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So textbook ballot harvesting


[22-May-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Republicans generally pass laws against like, collecting up 100 nurshing home ballots that you filled out yourself when they find that suddenly liberal areas are voting mail-in.


[22-May-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or worse, churches enabling blakk people to vote.


[22-May-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're totally fine with it as long as the votes are assured to be red.


[22-May-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the ideal conservative society, people "vote" as in "choose which supreme leader directive happens first, for those of lesser ability under them"


[22-May-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They get mad when you have volunteers to help people drive to places to vote.


[22-May-20 02:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like not even helping them with the ballot


[22-May-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just something like picking them up and dropping them off at a middle school where they are registered to vote


[22-May-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, they want everyone reliant on the charity of strangers.


[22-May-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of organized charity efforts with volunteers who aren't rich doing shit is seen by them as an affront to the hierarchy.


[22-May-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want you to need a personal loan from your local megabaron.


[22-May-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you are loyal to him.


[22-May-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you can be subjugated.


[22-May-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the same way Blanche DuBois depends on the kindness of strangers.


[22-May-20 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-hongkong-senate/u-s-senators-seek-to-sanction-chinese-over-hong-kong-idUSKBN22X2KR

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U.S. senators seek to sanction Chinese over Hong Kong
Republican and Democratic U.S. senators said on Thursday they would introduce legislation to impose sanctions on Chinese officials for violating Hong Kong's independence, after Beijing moved to impose a new security law on the former British colony.
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200521&t=2&i=1519481318&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG4K1WY

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[22-May-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
WW3 soon


[22-May-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
didn't happen with iran


[22-May-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
probably won't with china


[22-May-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
> On the first two days and during today’s morning we dealt with all passages in Stalin’s scripture which allow to find those laws by which the Russian economy can be directed.

> In theoretical regard, we have fundamentally refuted that an economy denoted by such laws could be defined as socialism or its lower stage, equally we disputed that one is able to appoint to Marx’s and Engels’ fundamental texts for such a purpose. In those scriptures, we find, even if not in the banal ease which one glazes over a comic, the economic characteristics of capitalism, as well as those of socialism and the phenomena which allow to verify the economic transition from one to the other mode of production.

> In empirical regard, we could draw a series of definite conclusions. In the Russian domestic market, the law of value prevails; therefore:


[22-May-20 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
> The products have commodity character; A market exists The exchange takes place, according to the law of value, between equivalents; and the equivalents have a monetary expression.

> The great mass of agrarian businesses works solely with regard to commodity production and partly in form of an individual appropriation of products on the side of parcel farmers (which in the other part of his labour time functions as cooperative farmer, kolkhozniki), a form therefore, which is even further away from socialism, in some sense precapitalistic and barter economic.

> The small and medium sized businesses, which manufacture factory commodities, also work for sales on the market.

> The large enterprises finally are owned by the state, which doesn’t mean much: their bookkeeping carries a monetary character and by prices – in which the reign of the law of value is already implied – expenditures (for raw materials, wages) and revenues (sold products) are confronted with each other, therefore audited whether the enterprises operate viable, meaning whether they yield a profit, a surplus.


[22-May-20 02:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Italian Man Spills Stalin's Spaghetti from Armchair


[22-May-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
oh god why


[22-May-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/images/2354356

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[22-May-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
>>2354356


[22-May-20 03:05 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[22-May-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
stonetoss drew a pony


[22-May-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stonetoss I'm calling you out, I had the idea first

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[22-May-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/EhBs8Hu.png

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Woody and Buzz make a new friend!
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[22-May-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
approved stonetoss edit


[22-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How will this strip help us promote a comic about politics?


[22-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Politics?


[22-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Actually the non-political strips are all a way to slowly convert people)


[22-May-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/499075-the-memo-activists-press-biden-on-vp-choice

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The Memo: Activists press Biden on VP choice
Joe Biden’s search for a running mate is heating up — and so too is the pressure on the presumptive Democratic nominee from activists who want to see their ideology and identity reflected in his pick.
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[22-May-20 04:04 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1263628517662588929

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Trump sparks criticism for praising Henry Ford and opts not to wear mask during Ford plant visit
During a visit to a Michigan Ford plant on Thursday, President Trump drew backlash for praising company founder Henry Ford — who had a documented history of antisemitism — for his "good bloodlines." While at the plant, the president also opted not to wear a mask in front of the media, saying: “I wore one in this back area, but I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”
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[22-May-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
>praising henry ford in 2020


[22-May-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
bigthonk


[22-May-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ford gave away copies of The Protocols when you bought a Model T


[22-May-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine if you got a copy of The Turner Diaries when you bought a new car now


[22-May-20 04:07 AM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[22-May-20 04:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1263618100102119425?s=21

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https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1263618100102119425?s=21
Michigan AG Dana Nessel slammed President Trump’s claim that he can withhold federal aid from Michigan, as he’s threatened to do, as “completely illegal” and promised that Michigan voters would remember the threat when they head the polls in November. https://t.co/5fubdGVSkJ
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[22-May-20 05:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] hail Ford!


[22-May-20 05:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
INB4 Trump tries to enact Brave New World but irl


[22-May-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
meanwhile 🇬🇧 goes for 1984


[22-May-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It can't be 1984 without suede denim secret police


[22-May-20 05:25 AM] jimm#1439
I'd much rather live in Mad Max than 1984


[22-May-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You die because you have a bad thought or you die because you get a bullet through your head because you have a gallon of water someone wants


[22-May-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/4f6-MDhygWc

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[V3] Corona race meme (covid-19 growth by country)
My third edit of corona live charts countries race (with data as of 6th May and to future?). I might went bit overkill with this one please forgive me.
This video was released for you as combined celebration for V2 reaching 1million views, me reaching 1k subs and it being exac...
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[22-May-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
sky daddy's will


[22-May-20 07:01 AM] Honahue#0656
all the people mad about not getting hair cuts are the same ones that thought they'd be the raiders in Mad Max


[22-May-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservative and white supremacist groups are going bonkers over a video of a black dude punching a white old man in the hospital


[22-May-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
another video surfaced of the same dude punching an old white woman too


[22-May-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
it was up on youtube for a bit, but it got taken down


[22-May-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
it's all over twitter, but mostly being shared by white supremacist types


[22-May-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
usually with some quip about how the "MSM" is gonna ignore it


[22-May-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
or how if the races were reversed, the "MSM" would be airing it nonstop for a week


[22-May-20 08:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
has the person been arrested for assault, battery, and elder abuse?


[22-May-20 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
yes


[22-May-20 08:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
good.


[22-May-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1263561902686236672

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James Woods (@RealJamesWoods)
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1263561902686236672
This is a nursing home. Please someone explain why this is happening and unreported.  https://t.co/Dzs8QYykIv
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[22-May-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/05/21/detroit-police-make-arrest-after-video-elder-abuse-goes-viral/5237271002/

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Detroit police make arrest after video of elder abuse goes viral
An arrest was made Thursday, after a videos circulating the internet appeared to show a man punching elderly victims lying in bed, Detroit Police say
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[22-May-20 08:29 AM] jlun2#8758
are elderly homes free? how do americans afford it if not


[22-May-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gee James Woods, I wonder why you care so much about this!


[22-May-20 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[22-May-20 10:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-filmed-shooting-ahmaud-arbery-charged-murder/story?id=70820910

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Man who filmed shooting of Ahmaud Arbery charged with murder
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation on Thursday said it arrested William “Roddie” Bryan Jr. with the murder of Ahmaud Arbery.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/william-bryan-abc-mo-20200521_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[22-May-20 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For context, the full video he took was about 5 minutes long of them chasing the guy down with their cars and attempts to block him in


[22-May-20 10:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's amazing what hubris does to people.


[22-May-20 02:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1263791481787162630?s=21

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A Pakistan International Airlines flight with more than 100 people on board has crashed in the Pakistani city of Karachi, an airline spokesman says. @CNNi's @SophiaSaifi has more. https://t.co/HfKo9VZBmX https://t.co/a2wvSdcu6E
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[22-May-20 02:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Again


[22-May-20 05:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually seen people say bombing Dresden was bad


[22-May-20 05:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only bad thing was that the city wasn't entirely razed and the ground salted


[22-May-20 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OK there Churchil


[22-May-20 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
well, US never made that mistake again, so it's all good :3


[22-May-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/MaliekBlade/status/1263802788196352001

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https://twitter.com/MaliekBlade/status/1263802788196352001
So this happened... “If you got a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or for Trump then you ain’t Black.” 
-@JoeBiden to @cthagod https://t.co/IdnyxSAY5k
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[22-May-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
biden why


[22-May-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-May-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
didn't we already know that


[22-May-20 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, yes, not the first time he's said pretty much the same thing


[22-May-20 06:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't help that he keeps doing it and getting aggro with anyone that questions him like he's spoiling for a fight


[22-May-20 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499158-tara-reades-lawyer-says-dropping-her-as-client-not-a-reflection-on-her

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Tara Reade's lawyer says dropping her as client not a reflection on...
The attorney of Tara Reade, the former Senate aide who has accused former Vice President Joe Biden of sexual assault, has dropped her as a client.
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[22-May-20 07:14 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bd_H8Cyago

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[22-May-20 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/499162-schitts-creek-actor-urges-people-to-wear-mask-out-of-kindness#

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'Schitt's Creek' actor urges people to wear mask out of 'kindness'
Dan Levy, the co-creator and star of "Schitt's Creek," is calling for people who are upset about wearing masks in public due to the coronavirus pandemic to do so out of "kindness" to others.
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[22-May-20 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Canadian thinking too highly of Americans

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[22-May-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Birx is fully in Trump's pocket


[22-May-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Go outside, have fun, play ball, congregate... just remember to stay 6ft apart :) "


[22-May-20 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[22-May-20 08:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Got asked about hydroxi, said it was clear it was bad and was leading to higher mortality, got shutdown by new press secretary


[22-May-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Told to get back to work, then started showing off how Trump is sending his paycheque to the HHS and about how important it is to reopen churches


[22-May-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She looks like a walking boner killer


[22-May-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just cookie-cutter FOX NEWS presenter


[22-May-20 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/22/politics/tara-reade-lawyer/index.html

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Lawyer says he's no longer representing Biden accuser Tara Reade
A lawyer who represented Tara Reade, the woman who has accused Joe Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993, announced Friday that Reade is no longer his firm's client.
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[22-May-20 08:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said it doesn't mean anything but this guy represented the accusers of Weinstein and adamantly supported Ford


[22-May-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It seems that whether it happened or not she's gone so far off the rails since that it's impossible to represent her or deal with her without two dozen "hrmmm" things popping out


[22-May-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Stealing from charity will do that


[22-May-20 08:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/opinion/biden-vice-president-cabinet.html

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By Michelle Cottle
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/opinion/biden-vice-president-cabinet.html
Opinion | Who’s on Your Biden Dream Team?
Pundits aren’t waiting until November to discuss cabinet options. Why should you?
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[22-May-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
this smells like a garbage take


[22-May-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
oh it's a programmable CYOA


[22-May-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
:lul:


[22-May-20 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
VP- Abrams
SecState- Rice
SecTres- Warren
SecDef- Duckworth
AG- Becerra
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[22-May-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499213-biden-regrets-remarks-about-black-support-i-shouldnt-have-been-such-a-wise

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Biden regrets remarks about black support: 'I shouldn't have been s...
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Friday said he regrets telling radio host Charlamagne Tha God that if you support President Trump “then you ain’t black.”
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[22-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[22-May-20 10:11 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-black-voters-considering-trump/

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[22-May-20 10:13 PM] jlun2#8758
why are minorities supporting trump again?


[22-May-20 10:13 PM] Sunnyside#3103
because you have people like biden that say you "aren't real X" if you vote otherwise


[22-May-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/499213-biden-regrets-remarks-about-black-support-i-shouldnt-have-been-such-a-wise

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Biden regrets remarks about black support: 'I shouldn't have been s...
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Friday said he regrets telling radio host Charlamagne Tha God that if you support President Trump “then you ain’t black.”
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[22-May-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
so voting Trump to own the libs. have fun


[22-May-20 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[22-May-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume they're serious.


[22-May-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[22-May-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
No way this is satire


[22-May-20 10:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Poe's law


[22-May-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Even taking poe's law into consideration there is no way this is satire, lmao


[22-May-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
so many people in the US think and act this way


[22-May-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
I've observed them


[22-May-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
are they all or mostly white


[22-May-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
all white


[22-May-20 10:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
White America is fucking weird.
it's like people are living on another planet.


[22-May-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg

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[22-May-20 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Talking with my dad about politics is fucking painful


[22-May-20 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, he fully agrees that Trump is a blabbering moron and utter asshole


[22-May-20 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But _the democrats_


[22-May-20 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The red/blue shit is engrained to the bone


[22-May-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess he's gonna need some new bones then :shrugpony:


[22-May-20 11:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My dad just thinks Trump is a moron and doesn't understand why someone would aggravate themselves with being a politician


[22-May-20 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1263899559798996994?s=19

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[22-May-20 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Halp


[22-May-20 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thankfully both the right wing and left in my country's government has allied against this tho, so any talk of a coup will probably go nowhere


[22-May-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They took out the previous leader on false corruption charges. I don't hav much faith in them working everything out.


[22-May-20 11:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh this time it's legit


[22-May-20 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only that Bolsonaro has outlived his usefulness for the Brazilian right wing and is practically sabotaging Brazilian conservatism with his absurd gaffes, pretentiousness, and open corruption


[22-May-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[22-May-20 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wew


[22-May-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire US senate just cringed, klobs


[22-May-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/499220-from-noodle-hats-to-mannequins-here-are-6-unusual-ways-people-are-social

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From noodle hats to mannequins: Here are six unusual ways people ar...
As countries slowly begin to reopen from closures meant to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, scientists and health officials say social distancing is crucial to help prevent outbreaks from resurging.
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[22-May-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This was what PJW's newest rant was about


[22-May-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"What are we children, how dare you shame us"


[22-May-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It feels like suddenly the mythical "stay 6ft away from me or I'll draw on you" American personal space vanished and actually everyone wants to mosh pit constantly


[23-May-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[23-May-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-racist-origins-of-the-sat

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The Racist Origins of the SAT
While it unintentionally aided the disadvantaged in its earlier forms, the SAT was the fruit of a very poisonous tree.
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[23-May-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
wow, I didn't know the daily beast had a paywall


[23-May-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/05/21/university-of-california-eliminates-sat-act-requirement-1285435

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University of California eliminates SAT/ACT requirement
The vote comes after decades of opposition to standardized testing from civil rights groups and education experts.
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[23-May-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[23-May-20 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
may be a one step forward two steps back kind of thing


[23-May-20 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
universities want a filter to keep from having to accept every valid applicant


[23-May-20 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
not calling out ucal in particular, but others may implement their own, less standardized, much more racist tests


[23-May-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
and I expect _particularly_ racist testing in washington and california, designed to keep out asians


[23-May-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
asians? I haven't seen anything suggesting some attempt in california universities to exclude asians


[23-May-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it's been a thing for ages


[23-May-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
I can't find anything saying so, the only article I've found which points at that says that in-state accepted applicants are going down, and the reason it affected asian-americans more had to do with the "bonus points" given to the ACT/SAT based on race


[23-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://flexcollegeprep.com/uc-admission-still-getting-harder-for-asians-from-ca/

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[23-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://apnews.com/1bc3065eb2e4414289ef0ac1ac4ebaf7

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Trump: Any Jew voting Democratic is uninformed or disloyal
WASHINGTON (AP) — Showing a fresh willingness to play politics along religious lines, President Donald Trump said American Jews who vote for Democrats show "either a total lack of knowledge or...
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[23-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder


[23-May-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought GOP hates jews tho (but loves their land)?


[23-May-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
they do, but only when there's no other "enemies" to pick


[23-May-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They do, but they can be useful to fight Muslims in their eyes


[23-May-20 12:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] I assume unis that eliminate SAT will get more whiter then?


[23-May-20 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
but it also says that the UC system is taking way more out of state and out of nation applicants because of budget cuts


[23-May-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
but that they're especially taking in a lot of foreign asian applicants


[23-May-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Last year alone, the University of California accepted 30,490 applicants from other states or countries—particularly from Asia. This is a 13% increase from the previous year and almost a 30% increase from the year before that. The number of out-of-state candidates granted admission is particularly notable in the more competitive UC’s. UCLA admitted almost half of its freshman class from non-California residents; UC Berkeley admitted 35%.


[23-May-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe they're finally changing, last I heard universities on the west coast were significantly excluding asian applicants


[23-May-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
and there were several lawsuits about it


[23-May-20 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
> Part of the reason that the UC’s are trying, to put it bluntly, to keep Asian-Americans out is because so many of them that have already gotten in. With many UC campuses averaging a 40% Asian-American presence, it is, in a sense, understandable that universities wanting to diversify their racial profile are forced to consider race instead of pure merit in making their admissions decisions.


[23-May-20 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
they were excluding asian american applicants apparently


[23-May-20 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
basically because they were as common as whites on the campuses


[23-May-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
the biggest problem seems to be that the UC system's needing to take more and more out of state/country applicants to stay funded


[23-May-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> as common as whites
the horror? 🙄


[23-May-20 12:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article242741996.html


[23-May-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
> California’s public colleges and universities stand to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in planned funding in the state budget proposal Gov. Gavin Newsom released Thursday.
> 
> The California State University and University of California budgets each would take a 10 percent cut from their planned funding. The proposal also rolls back funding for community college support services like campus food banks.


[23-May-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
apparently newsom is continuing the trend of cutting UC and CSU funding


[23-May-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
tuition price: STONKS


[23-May-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
> The proposed funding cuts are detailed in a $203.3 billion budget that Newsom released to show his plan to close a projected $54.3 deficit that emerged since the coronavirus outbreak halted much of the state’s economic activity. Earlier this year, he had proposed a $222 billion budget that projected a $5.6 billion surplus.


[23-May-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like they're using coronavirus as a reason to go full neoliberal


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
when neoliberalism is the reason why the coronavirus hit the US so hard to begin with


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
eternal neolib


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
eternal boomer


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-May-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
ohh, apparently they're cutting the funding increase


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't cutting funding


[23-May-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Newsom’s January proposal originally included $18.1 billion in state funding for higher education. The updated budget Newsom unveiled Thursday lowers that funding to $16.3 billion for the 10 University of California campuses, 23 California State University schools and the more than 200 California Community Colleges’ districts, campuses and centers.


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I repeat


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
> tuition price: STONKS


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] jlun2#8758
where's that infinite money printing


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
they aren't cutting funding to the UC/CSU system, they're cutting the amount of funding increase


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
my tuition price pre-corona is literally $10k per semester before my scholarship


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] jlun2#8758
ouch


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
and they are going to increase it next year by 2%


[23-May-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
like they do every year


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
when are you graduating


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
2022


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
May


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
pls dont go :depressed: and drop out


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
how come the value of the scholarship doesn't also match inflation


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
that seems to be a common thing


[23-May-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
but hey, at least the scholarship is quite a decent amount


[23-May-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
because everything regarding the US higher education system is pants on head retarded


[23-May-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
they should've worded that article better at the beginning though


[23-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
>  UC, CSU to lose 10% of state funding in new California budget proposal


[23-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
that's the title


[23-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
very misleading


[23-May-20 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
🎣


[23-May-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
a much better title would be "UC, CSU planned funding to be lowerered in new California budget proposal"


[23-May-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
or something along those lines to emphasize that this isn't a cut to the current UC/CSU funding, only to the planned increased funding


[23-May-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
so it isn't actually neoliberal


[23-May-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
because they aren't cutting funding itself


[23-May-20 12:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.businessinsider.com/pastors-leading-charge-reopen-churches-coronavirus-first-amendment-2020-5

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'The governor is a servant of the state. I am a servant of God': 3 ...
Churches will follow "all appropriate safety precautions recommended by the CDC," an attorney said, "just as Costco and Walmart are required to do."
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[23-May-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
only cutting a planned increase


[23-May-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
lol ok


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
when is god gonna hold a press conference?


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
never


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
is god going to donate money for fighting the coronavirus?


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What a fucking pathetic shitshow


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
no @Crow no


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] illumnious#7938
He's not doing that


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope they all fall ill and cough up god's name in their fever throes


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
rats


[23-May-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow Yes. You can obtain your godbucks once you die.

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[23-May-20 01:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon I thought only those millenial atheists die


[23-May-20 01:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The only difference here is that if Costco and WalMart break the rules, they can and will be held liable.


[23-May-20 01:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
No one is going to go after the churches


[23-May-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Burn 'em down :shrugpony:


[23-May-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
churches seem too politically powerful for(ever) now to do that


[23-May-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Come the fall it may be so many avid churchgoers are sick that that's no longer an issue...


[23-May-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like the politicians that lean on the church for votes ever go to church


[23-May-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or churchgoers wouldn't see it as a "test of faith"


[23-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, something I was reminded of recently, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47817591

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Texas bans chaplains from execution rooms
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[23-May-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will, when told they need to treat X and Y people the same, simply shut down the thing that allows Y people to express themselves.


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
(where X is whatever the "one true path" wants)


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This should be a moot point because the death penalty is unconstitutional


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but it's not what I'm getting at.


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I know someone who until recently was insisting he was asexual.


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
After being very, very obviously gay.


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, Texas bans marriage because gays can marry


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, shutting down Y is still a victory.


[23-May-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would get uncomfortable when asked about sexual matters period.


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives on tumblr made him believe that being anything but asexual was bad.


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that he wouldn't act gay anymore.


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If a state said "No civil marriage for anyone ever" I guess that could work?


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically put him in a new, "non-discriminatory" closet.


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon I know you're joking but they unironically considered this after _Obergefell v. Hodges_


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where you're simply not allowed to hav sexuality period.


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
-_-


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also that is what I was getting at


[23-May-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, @Itsthinking, that's the likely endgame.


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Making civil marriage not exist period, just civil unions


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And leaving marriage to religion


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that's fine, but you can't confer tax benefits for married couples anymore


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
which is the entire fucking problem


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You confer them on civil unions


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just tax benefits


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
One big problem that was one of the big cases


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is always "marriage" is special and religious and it was tied up with the benefits you get from the state


[23-May-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
a lesbian in a civil union was denied hospital visitation rights


[23-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
along with benefits from her spouse.


[23-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because everything was set up to only care about marriage.


[23-May-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, so much is structured around marriage for going "okay yes you're in a valid relationship for us to giv you special treatment"


[23-May-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of civil unions was to go "we gave you tax benefits, what's the problem?"


[23-May-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The point was to have gay marriage seen in the _public_ eye as the same


[23-May-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't have a judicial ruling that forces the public to accept thing


[23-May-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahaha no


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oops-did-texas-ban-marriage/

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Oops: Did Texas Ban Marriage?
Anti-Gay Marriage Law Includes Clause Banning Recognition of "Legal Status Identical or Similar to Marriage"
https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/04/29/340c23e5-e5a3-40ef-bf68-dcc84ef47c4b/thumbnail/1200x630/6e2e666786e7a06c8786e0cd609401f5/restrictedimagesub.jpg


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In fact that only gives people against it grounds to say "It was forced on us, we will fight it"


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
civil unions were what conservatives want.


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Texas lawmakers wanted to make sure gay people couldn't be married. Instead, it seems, they may have made sure no one can.
> 
> The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has the story. Here's what happened: In 2005, Texas voters and the state Legislature approved a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
> 
> But the amendment included the following clause, which was reportedly designed to ban civil unions and domestic partnerships: "This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage."
> 
> One thing that is "identical…to marriage," of course, is marriage. And Texas Attorney General candidate Barbara Ann Radnofsky, a Democrat, is arguing that the current Attorney General, Republican Greg Abbott, made a "massive mistake" in allowing the language.


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wanted them to say "not a real marriage"


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Crow#5457
apparently texas did actually almost ban marriage


[23-May-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[23-May-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
in 2005


[23-May-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
which is before Obergefell v. Hodges


[23-May-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Amazing.


[23-May-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
by 10 years actually


[23-May-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
Obergefell v. Hodges was 2015


[23-May-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to find something about them considering banning marriage after that though


[23-May-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
"red states" like texas and alabama frequently made the news for their attempts to ban it


[23-May-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
the only connection seems to be that it was a response to gay marriages


[23-May-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/12/04/us-supreme-court-declines-consider-houston-fight-over-same-sex-marriag/

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U.S. Supreme Court declines to consider Houston fight over same-sex...
The U.S. Supreme Court has announced it will not review a June decision by the Texas Supreme Court that ruled that the legalization of same-sex marriage does not fully address the right to marriage benefits.
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[23-May-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
jesus, the texas supreme court unanimously ruled that same-sex marriages don't guarantee the same benefits as traditional marriage


[23-May-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
in 2017


[23-May-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I can't find anything saying that texas actually considered banning all marriage to target same-sex marriage, only that accidental almost-banning


[23-May-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie if they want asexual but also pregancy does that mean conservatives are fine with self cloning


[23-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know how to feel about cloning


[23-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm kind of


[23-May-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
beside myself

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[23-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
> A study tracking married couples over a 10 year span found lesbian marriages were most likely to end in divorce. Of the 580 lesbian couples who were married in 2005, 30% were divorced ten years later compared to 18% for heterosexual couples and 15% for gay male couples.


[23-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
huh, interesting


[23-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
it was conducted in the netherlands


[23-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
so not really reflective of US divorce rates


[23-May-20 02:01 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the netherlands has way lower divorce rates though


[23-May-20 02:01 AM] jlun2#8758
wait. gay couples last longer than hetero?  @WiFiWitch your gay ships last longer than stright ships ^


[23-May-20 02:02 AM] Crow#5457
the divorce rates for heterosexual marriages in the US is between 40-50%


[23-May-20 02:02 AM] WiFiWitch#6285
:lul:


[23-May-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
wait what, that's not right


[23-May-20 02:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's a few places floating around saying that the divorce rate is 40-50%, but it seems to be some kind of probability thing


[23-May-20 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
not the actual divorce rate


[23-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
apparently not, it's the other stuff that's downplaying the divorce rate


[23-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
though apparently the divorce rate in the US has dropped to 39%


[23-May-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
but there's also been a bigger drop in marriage


[23-May-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.economist.com/britain/2020/01/09/why-lesbian-couples-are-more-likely-to-divorce-than-gay-ones

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Why lesbian couples are more likely to divorce than gay ones
The trials of same-sex marriage
https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/20200111_BRP003.jpg


[23-May-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
> More lesbians than gay men get married, but the discrepancy in divorce rates is much wider than that in marriage rates. Gay men account for 44% of same-sex marriages in the latest data, but make up only 26% of divorcees. In any case, more men formed civil partnerships than women in the 14 years for which data are available, yet more women dissolved them. The same trend crops up in the Netherlands, the first country to allow same-sex marriage: in the ten years from 2005, 15% of gay marriages failed, compared with 30% of lesbian ones.


[23-May-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
> Ayesha Vardag, president of Vardags, a firm of divorce lawyers, speculates that women are much less likely to tolerate marital infidelity than men. Dutch women cite infidelity as a reason for divorce more than men.


[23-May-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
wait, is she implying that men in general are cucks?


[23-May-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
maybe it could be the opposite, that the hiding the infidelity part hurts women a lot more than it hurts men


[23-May-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
that women would be more okay with infidelity if their men were more open about it


[23-May-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
that's just speculation though


[23-May-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the idea is that men in general are more likely to cheat.


[23-May-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it might be physical, men love their wives but still have the urge to fuck


[23-May-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather


[23-May-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Men cheat and get away with it.


[23-May-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women find out.


[23-May-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
also that, apparently cheaters are more likely to forgive their partners for cheating


[23-May-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a gay marriage, both sides are cheating but hav no clue


[23-May-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a lesbian marriage, either side messes up and is found out instantly.


[23-May-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a straight marriage, the guy's cheating but able to hide it a while etc.


[23-May-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> but have no clue
can confirm, am male and oblivious to most things


[23-May-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, testosterone leads to less corpus callosum.


[23-May-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which in turn means it's harder to figure out what people are up to.


[23-May-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
I personally feel like the whole "bad feelings" reaction to finding out your partner's been with another person is more of a social construct than a natural one


[23-May-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women make excellent investigators and poor criminals.


[23-May-20 02:19 AM] jlun2#8758
penises make you dumber :nut:
||too bad not much people draw male bimbos||


[23-May-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
that people only feel bad about infidelity because society says that's how you should feel


[23-May-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
not that jealousy isn't a natural reaction


[23-May-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
you would think that an attitude that is present in animal societies and persisted throughout millenia in every human culture might a little bit more than just a human social construct...


[23-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
the jelly gene


[23-May-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
well yes, I'm not saying it isn't natural, just that cultures and societies exaggerate the natural feelings


[23-May-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
or expect you to exaggerate them


[23-May-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
I'm having trouble articulating it, it's kind of nebulous


[23-May-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://blogs.chapman.edu/press-room/2015/01/05/chapman-university-publishes-research-on-jealousy-impact-of-sexual-vs-emotional-infidelity/

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[23-May-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
>  According to the findings, heterosexual men were more likely than heterosexual women to be most upset by sexual infidelity (54 percent of men vs. 35 percent of women) and less likely than heterosexual women to be most upset by emotional infidelity (46 percent of men vs. 65 percent of women).


[23-May-20 02:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Participants imagined what would upset them more: their partners having sex with someone else (but not falling in love with them) or their partners falling in love with someone else (but not having sex with them). Consistent with the evolutionary perspective, heterosexual men were more likely than heterosexual women to be upset by sexual infidelity and less likely than heterosexual women to be upset by emotional infidelity. Bisexual men and women did not differ significantly. Gay men and lesbian women also did not differ.


[23-May-20 02:27 AM] jlun2#8758
huh.


[23-May-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
it would be impossible to logically deny that humans don't naturally dislike infidelity


[23-May-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
but why does infidelity persist if humans are so adverse to it?


[23-May-20 02:29 AM] Crow#5457
I've seen hypotheses that ancient humans were naturally polyamorous, apparently there's been research into why the human penis is shaped so weirdly, and one of the things it seems really good at doing is pushing out fluids already present in the vagina


[23-May-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
and research into psychology suggests that men have rougher sex with women when infidelity is suspected


[23-May-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
which would help push out a competitor's semen


[23-May-20 02:31 AM] jlun2#8758
I know some people love it at least


[23-May-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
love what?


[23-May-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
infidelity?


[23-May-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
yeah there's a pretty big infidelity kinkspace on derpibooru


[23-May-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I get the feeling people like infidelity in general


[23-May-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
they're just socially scared of its repercussions


[23-May-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it's pretty hard to imagine a society where people actually compete by having sex with the same person


[23-May-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
probably because of how puritan the US is


[23-May-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
and it seems like the general view towards sex in general have stayed pretty constant over the last century, only having one official partner at a time


[23-May-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
but there's tons of cultural peripheries that seem to almost glorify infidelity


[23-May-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
stuff like "side chicks", "mistresses", etc


[23-May-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
using "side chick" and "mistress" in the same sentence feels like


[23-May-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://xkcd.com/75/

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xkcd: Curse Levels
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I find so much fun in language.


[23-May-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also made a list of the most cursed Biden picks


[23-May-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
VP- Klobuchar
SecState- Romney
SecTres- Bloomberg
SecDef- McRaven
AG- Harris
SecHHS- Gates
EPA Admin- Schwarzenegger


[23-May-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You forget that dubya can still hold public office


[23-May-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I put Schwarzenegger and Bill Gates in Cabinet positions, and you want me to make things worse?


[23-May-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think bill gates would be the worst cabinet member


[23-May-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/22/easyjet_hack_victim_notification/

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It wasn't just a few credit cards: Entire travel itineraries were s...
Unsurpisingly budget airline goes cheap: No payout or credit monitoring
https://regmedia.co.uk/2020/05/22/airbus_a320_easyjet_flight.jpg


[23-May-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
> As reported earlier this week, the data was stolen from the airline between October 2019 and January this year. Easyjet kept quiet about the hack until mid-May,


[23-May-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
...


[23-May-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never fly an airline that sounds like a Wal-Mart brand


[23-May-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
gotta make sure the CEO can sell off all his shares before announcing!


[23-May-20 03:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> be on your guard for phishing attacks that have already happened by now lol


[23-May-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/499275-trump-admin-has-looked-at-conducting-first-us-nuclear-test-since-90s

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Trump admin has looked at conducting first US nuclear test since '9...
Members of the Trump administration have explored conducting the first U.S. nuclear test since 1992 in a move that would mark a reversal from a decades-long freeze on such tests.
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[23-May-20 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[23-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey!


[23-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That isn't at night!


[23-May-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where are the Coca-Cola logos in Japanese?


[23-May-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what cyberpunk means right


[23-May-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
every news article about the trump admin is galaxy brain moment tbh


[23-May-20 04:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/why-happy-people-cheat/537882/

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Why Happy People Cheat
A good marriage is no guarantee against infidelity.
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[23-May-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking does that mean they'll finally record mushroom clouds in 16k, or nah still shitty potato grain quality


[23-May-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[23-May-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
haha


[23-May-20 05:07 AM] illumnious#7938
wtf


[23-May-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.livescience.com/32146-are-humans-meant-to-be-monogamous.html

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Are Humans Meant to Be Monogamous?
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[23-May-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
> Only 3 percent to 5 percent of the roughly 5,000 species of mammals (including humans) are known to form lifelong, monogamous bonds , with the loyal superstars including beavers, wolves and some bats.


[23-May-20 06:09 AM] Crow#5457
🐺🦇


[23-May-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no beave emoji? HERESY.


[23-May-20 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
🐝✌️🇪🇷


[23-May-20 06:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Beave


[23-May-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Insect finger Eritrea


[23-May-20 07:15 AM] illumnious#7938
ha! https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/obamagate-is-fake-the-real-scandal-is-what-happened-to-hillary-clinton/

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‘Obamagate’ is fake — the real scandal is what happened to Hillary ...
Politicized investigations, interference in elections, and abusive targeting by law enforcement are all the makings of a juicy political scandal. And President Donald Trump would like us to believe that such a scandal, with each of these components, is real and — even if he ca...
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[23-May-20 07:16 AM] illumnious#7938
just fucking laugh bitch


[23-May-20 07:16 AM] illumnious#7938
*President Donald Trump would like us to believe that such a scandal, with each of these components, is real and — even if he can’t name any crime that might have been committed — directed at him. That’s why he has promoted the lazy moniker “Obamagate,” an all-encompassing term for the vague allegations of wrongdoing surrounding the conduct of the previous administration and the investigators probing the ties between his campaign and the Kremlin’s interference in the 2016 election.*


[23-May-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People brush it off because wacko conspiracy theories about the Clintons have existed since Bill took office.


[23-May-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything other than admitting HW Bush and Bob Dole were bad candidates.


[23-May-20 07:44 AM] jlun2#8758
so how many people actually think obamagate is real now?


[23-May-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-press-secretary-check.html

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Trump’s Press Secretary Displays One of His Checks in a Little Too ...
The $100,000 check was made out to a government agency. This time his account and routing numbers were clearly visible.
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[23-May-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Casual reminder that unlike in Europe, in the US if someone knows your account number and your bank they hav full access.

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[23-May-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
oops


[23-May-20 08:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665555087782969355/713509867767201802/biden_you_aint_black.mp4

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[23-May-20 08:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
this got a good chuckle out of me


[23-May-20 08:25 AM] illumnious#7938
Whoops


[23-May-20 08:25 AM] illumnious#7938
Who the fuck cares


[23-May-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```Casual reminder that unlike in Europe, in the US if someone knows your account number and your bank they hav full access.```


[23-May-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I genuinly wondered about why was US so fixated on 'dont input account number anywhere'. Like, why would that by itself do anything?


[23-May-20 08:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well what do you know :wheeze:


[23-May-20 09:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/frankline-ndifor-pastor-cameroon_n_5ec60a00c5b6dfc078e0f7ee huffpost but

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Pastor Who Claimed To Cure Coronavirus With Faith Dies Of Coronavirus
Frankline Ndifor had claimed to cure the COVID-19 infection in Cameroon via the laying of hands.
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[23-May-20 09:09 AM] Opponent#3498
that just keeps happening huh.


[23-May-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh he cured it


[23-May-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
His faith killed him.


[23-May-20 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/scotland-tax-have-ban-coronavirus-bailout-fund-a9526006.html

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‘Any company which avoids its responsibility to contribute to society should not be getting handouts when things go wrong,’ says Scottish Green party co-leader Patrick Harvie
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[23-May-20 09:41 AM] Crow#5457
now ban all companies from receiving any bailouts if they use tax havens


[23-May-20 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
you know what, ban companies, only cooperatives allowed


[23-May-20 11:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/22/investing/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-stock-sales/index.html

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Moderna execs dumped nearly $30 million of stock after news of prom...
Moderna's stock price skyrocketed as much as 30% on Monday after the biotech company announced promising early results for its coronavirus vaccine. As ordinary investors piled in, two insiders were quietly heading for the exits.
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[23-May-20 01:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/dominic-cummings-no-10-accused-of-covering-up-lockdown-breach

"Downing Street is facing accusations of a cover-up over Dominic Cummings’s trip to Durham at the height of the national lockdown, amid reports that No 10 knew he made the 264-mile journey after developing symptoms of coronavirus."

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Dominic Cummings: No 10 accused of covering up lockdown breach
Opposition parties demand answers after reports No 10 knew about trip six weeks ago
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[23-May-20 01:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Do yall ever just try and kill your parents?

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[23-May-20 02:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not since the court order


[23-May-20 05:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1264178032031514624?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1264178032031514624?s=21
Who are the 4%? A RINO or two! https://t.co/fYjnhC6rrl
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[23-May-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/alprogressparty/status/1264091595982417925?s=21

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Alabama Progress (@ALProgressParty)
https://twitter.com/alprogressparty/status/1264091595982417925?s=21
-Sessions grew a spine tonight, but he's still Jeff Sessions.
-Trump is a whiny baby as usual. 
-Tommy Tuberville is a former football coach who may or may not even live in Alabama. 

So anyway, you can donate to Doug Jones campaign here:
https://t.co/oICSFiVG3h

#OneAlabama
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[23-May-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
wth does he mean by the 4%


[23-May-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
uhhhh


[23-May-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fox-news-bill-gates-conspiracy-pandemic-donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-a9529301.html

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fox-news-bill-gates-conspiracy-pandemic-donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-a9529301.html
Half of Fox News viewers think Bill Gates is using pandemic to micr...
Over 40 per cent of Donald Trump voters who took part in poll also believe the conspiracy theory
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/05/22/21/billgates.jpg


[23-May-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
> Coronavirus: Half of Fox News viewers think Bill Gates is using pandemic to microchip them, survey suggests


[23-May-20 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
how come Bill Gates is still relevant?


[23-May-20 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
name rolls off the tongue easy or something?


[23-May-20 05:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Nah, they’re just jackasses


[23-May-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He made a ted talk awhile back talking about overpopulation i think, that makes him an easy picking for conspiracy theorists and fox news


[23-May-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He talked about overpopulation, that must mean he wants to cull half the species thanos style using vaccine microchips"


[23-May-20 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Coronavirus: Florida passes 50,000 COVID-19 cases
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/22/coronavirus-in-florida-state-nears-50000-covid-19-cases/

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Coronavirus: Florida passes 50,000 COVID-19 cases
According to the latest data posted by the state’s health department Saturday morning, there are 50,127 confirmed cases of COVID-19 across Florida with 2,232 deaths and 9,310 hospitalizations since the start of the pandemic.
https://www.local10.com/resizer/5ci6ORgFfHs6NgJQWGgiyrl3AuA=/1600x1066/smart/filters:format(jpeg):strip_exif(true):strip_icc(true):no_upscale(true):quality(65)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gmg/TRRDBQWFDVGDXAZZVBC2AC5ZE4.jpg

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[23-May-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
God, I hate my state sometimes


[23-May-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
north carolina is at 22,374


[23-May-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with 740 deaths


[23-May-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
```"He talked about overpopulation, that must mean he wants to cull half the species thanos style using vaccine microchips"```


[23-May-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't even minded that much.


[23-May-20 06:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd get either release or more resources, a win either way.


[23-May-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
but conspiracy theorists delude themselves into believing the world makes sense in some way.


[23-May-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
the greatest lie of them all


[23-May-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it got worse when alex jones jumped on the hype train so he could sell protein shakes or some shit


[23-May-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I i beleive this is the ted talk

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Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates
http://www.ted.com At TED2010, Bill Gates unveils his vision for the world's energy future, describing the need for "miracles" to avoid planetary catastrophe and explaining why he's backing a dramatically different type of nuclear reactor. The necessary goal? Zero carbon emiss...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JaF-fq2Zn7I/sddefault.jpg


[23-May-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He predicted a pandemic, ergo, he masterminded this pandemic and is trying to kill us" seems to be most of the comments on the video

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[23-May-20 07:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There are virus hunters out there that have predicted something like this decades ago. Bill Gates just decided to listen to what they had to say and spread the word.


[23-May-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much. but because the experts saw this coming, they must be behind it, right?


[23-May-20 07:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
all part of gods plan.


[23-May-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the other half of the conspiracy is that since a wuhan lab may have been studying the virus, they clearly engineered it because how else would it escape a lab?


[23-May-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/teaxs-vote-by-mail-democrat-scam-to-steal-the-election-2020-5

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Texas' Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick called vote-by-mail a 'scam,' saying it...
Patrick said an expansion of voting by mail was a "scam" by Democrats to steal the election and that it would "destroy America."
https://i.insider.com/5ec93ef4988ee35532469083?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[23-May-20 08:01 PM] jlun2#8758
end of white "Christian" America would be nice


[23-May-20 08:01 PM] RYDE#8862
@jlun2 yes.


[23-May-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[23-May-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully not to be replaced with orange "christian" america


[23-May-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m kind of surprised they havent started painting themselves orange yet


[23-May-20 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
American Christianity is so weird, normally I'd think of it as a fandom but the thing about fandoms is the superfans tend to try and know as much as possible about their fandom which is the reverse of American Christians


[23-May-20 08:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What do u guys think about trade war with China?Is it possible that Trump could make Chinese companies to stop trading their stocks in US?


[23-May-20 08:12 PM] Honahue#0656
I think the US government and businesses have gotten so inept that any other large economy with even slightly competent management would win a trade war


[23-May-20 08:14 PM] Honahue#0656
America tries to hide that it's a buisiness oligarchy, China just accepts it


[23-May-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/O2W3R59wtF?amp=1

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Daily coronavirus deaths in New York drop under 100 for the first t...
New York state is still reporting the most cases in the country.
https://images.axios.com/uDW79d7WTButAmPJf3aEJ6zw2Fs=/2020/05/23/1590249514183.jpg


[23-May-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
finally


[23-May-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
fuuuuck but still got a lot of shit to complete


[23-May-20 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://gizmodo.com/twitter-bots-drove-the-push-to-reopen-america-study-fi-1843614589

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https://gizmodo.com/twitter-bots-drove-the-push-to-reopen-america-study-fi-1843614589
Twitter Bots Drove the Push to 'Reopen America,' Study Finds
This might not come as a surprise if you ever use Twitter, but it turns out bots are driving the push to “reopen America” on the platform.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_675,pg_1,q_80,w_1200/x5huffmbsfdhrgd4un9q.jpg


[23-May-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How surprising


[23-May-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
shocker


[23-May-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The right-wing depending on astrotufring and false popularity to make itself seem stronger?


[23-May-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Being Brazilian, btw, this is familiar to me


[23-May-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jair Bolsonaro nd his team have resorted numerous times to bot armies to push their apparent popularity on social media


[23-May-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly? Any kind of social media that is accessible to boomers should be banned


[23-May-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[23-May-20 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most social media platforms should be banned


[23-May-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter is just a cesspool of unquantifiable proportions and Facebook actively pushes BS and promotes extremist articles to improve "user engagement"


[23-May-20 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not just that people are shit and shittier people are taking advantage of it, it's the platforms themselves knowing and exploiting it


[23-May-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
and profiting from it


[23-May-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
heavily


[23-May-20 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye


[23-May-20 08:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/brianpempus/status/1263975348515069952

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https://twitter.com/brianpempus/status/1263975348515069952
The vibe at all the restaurants reopening
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[23-May-20 08:51 PM] jimm#1439

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[23-May-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> second ammendment daily


[23-May-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhh


[23-May-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did that happen


[23-May-20 08:52 PM] jlun2#8758
gun worshipper


[23-May-20 08:53 PM] jlun2#8758
> About half of all accounts tweeting about “reopening America” appeared to be bots, and 60 perfect of the 1,000 most influential retweeters appeared to be bots. 

> 60 perfect


[23-May-20 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I love this country so much"
Maybe it's just me, but it seems the problem is someone broke in


[23-May-20 08:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe look into stopping that before jerking yourself off to the freedom to shoot at the bizarrely large number of criminals that US has


[23-May-20 08:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far none of the sites i've seen reporting on this news seem trustworthy


[23-May-20 08:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> Unfortunately, researchers were unable to identify where the bot activity originally started from. They aren’t sure if it’s mostly coming from within the U.S, outside the U.S., or maybe a mix of both.
no russian style bot art :sad:


[23-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
I remember like a decade ago people were praising social media for democratizing the world lol


[23-May-20 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
social media has never democratized the world


[23-May-20 08:57 PM] jlun2#8758
also someone i followed retweeted this lol https://twitter.com/TheOfficialACM/status/1263844592874651648

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Face masks cover up a significant portion of what facial recognition needs to identify and detect people -- essentially threatening the future of a multimillion-dollar industry unless the technology can learn to recognize people beyond the coverings: https://t.co/ItlhU4rXX3
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[23-May-20 08:58 PM] byte[]#2610
it's always been a tool of censorship


[23-May-20 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, i'd say it's a tool for exploiting the loopholes that make democracy riggable


[23-May-20 09:00 PM] jimm#1439
> Maybe it's just me, but it seems the problem is someone broke in
and they got what they deserved, I don't see the problem here


[23-May-20 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's contingent on whether this story is even true lol


[23-May-20 09:03 PM] jimm#1439
compare to the UK where you're obligated to jump out your own window and run away


[23-May-20 09:03 PM] jimm#1439
if a burglar is coming after you


[23-May-20 09:03 PM] jimm#1439
someone was convicted for grabbing a knife when they were being threatened in their own house because it was "disproportionate"


[23-May-20 09:03 PM] jimm#1439
texas et al definitely have it right on this issue

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[23-May-20 09:04 PM] jlun2#8758
I can't find the democracy quote exactly, but found some references to it:
<https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/niall-ferguson-social-networks-and-the-global-crisis-of-democracy/article37665172/>
> Silicon Valley once promised its digital revolution would topple dictators – but now it's disrupting the free world instead.


[23-May-20 09:04 PM] jlun2#8758
among other articles about arab spring


[23-May-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i could care less about the debate on guns for self defense


[23-May-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless it's self defense against cops overstepping their legal boundaries


[23-May-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or far-right nutjobs intent on causing damage to minorities


[23-May-20 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IMO discussing what people should do if a burglar broke into their house is kinda useless because the variables are so volatile


[23-May-20 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every situation is different


[23-May-20 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If your gun's not pointing at them, they'll be likely to point it at you first, etc


[23-May-20 09:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
> among other articles about arab spring
@jlun2 

For a large part the Silicon Valley ideology is predicated on a strand of libertarian thought developed in the seventies by the mostly upper-middle or upper class hippies from the sixties who took the free love philosophy of the time and turned into a business model. Of course what this means is mostly freedom for them and an idealistic outlook that forgets the many ways companies and governments alike utilize their technology to not to epic freedoms for people.


[23-May-20 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Arab Spring? More like Crab Spring


[23-May-20 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🦀


[23-May-20 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
rip


[23-May-20 09:53 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://gizmodo.com/twitter-bots-drove-the-push-to-reopen-america-study-fi-1843614589
@Teaspoon not even suprised

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Twitter Bots Drove the Push to 'Reopen America,' Study Finds
This might not come as a surprise if you ever use Twitter, but it turns out bots are driving the push to “reopen America” on the platform.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_center,h_675,pg_1,q_80,w_1200/x5huffmbsfdhrgd4un9q.jpg


[23-May-20 09:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
I tell ya, it's the DeVos family.


[23-May-20 09:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Honahue can back me up here.


[23-May-20 09:58 PM] illumnious#7938
to be honest, not that much Americans wanted Trump in the white house for the second time anyways


[23-May-20 10:04 PM] jlun2#8758
hard to tell; seems like his supporters stand by him


[23-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
ew


[23-May-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Pixar announced a movie about a gay character


[23-May-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter / social media is gonna be "fun" for a while


[23-May-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-politics-environment-idUSKBN22Y30Y

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Brazil minister calls for environmental deregulation while public d...
Brazilian Environment Minister Ricardo Salles called on the government to push through further deregulation of environmental policy while people are distracted by the coronavirus pandemic, in a video the Supreme Court ordered released on Friday.
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200522&t=2&i=1519638765&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG4L21Y


[23-May-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> “We need to make an effort while we are in this calm moment in terms of press coverage, because they are only talking about COVID, and push through and change all the rules and simplify norms”


[23-May-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah i saw that


[23-May-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Although Globo Network, ever the kingmaker, is going full offensive on Bolsonaro rn


[23-May-20 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It seems he and his cronies have outlived their usefulness and that he's even sabotaging conservatism itself in Brazil rn


[23-May-20 10:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Started making the right look bad, eh?


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] jlun2#8758
actually gay and has a relevant plot to it, or "they held hands and they're the same gender in the background" gay? @Teaspoon


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Big talk about ending corruption and woops


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah... Sérgio Moro has saved face and jumped off the boat tho


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The movie is about a guy trying to come out to his parents and introduce his hispanic boyfriend to them


[23-May-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And also he can mind control a dog

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[23-May-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's the one who shared info to Globo about Bolsonaro's attempted rigging of Brazil's judiciary to shield his son and family from investigation


[23-May-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
well then :nut: :glowing_eyes:


[23-May-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1263473370299019269

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Disney+ (@disneyplus)
https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1263473370299019269
The latest heartwarming tale from @Pixar’s #SparkShorts. Start streaming Out tomorrow on #DisneyPlus. https://t.co/gRvBEdK1Iw
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[23-May-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, what a creative title.


[23-May-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Inside Out was too complicated.


[23-May-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
:chip:


[23-May-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Am guessing it's only 30 minutes long or something


[23-May-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
"spark shorts"


[23-May-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Try 10


[23-May-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh dang, I was wrong.


[23-May-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's 9.


[23-May-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
dang


[23-May-20 10:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
By making this digital on their own platform they can just hide it.


[23-May-20 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/abdallahcnn/status/1264253844445442049

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Khalil Abdallah (@abdallahcnn)
https://twitter.com/abdallahcnn/status/1264253844445442049
President @realDonaldTrump waved at my camera on Saturday while golfing at his Virginia club.
His first visit to one of his golf properties since March amid the coronavirus pandemic. 
By CNN's count, this is his 265th visit to one of his golf clubs since becoming President. #...
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[23-May-20 11:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
3 year president. 1 year golf.


[23-May-20 11:12 PM] ononim#8141
> the logo colours


[23-May-20 11:12 PM] ononim#8141
Oi!:bisexual_pride_flag:


[23-May-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first image reminds me of the big foot image for some reason
"and here we have the elusive golf foot. He is a skulking fellow, that one! It is said he only comes out into the open when he feels threatened by the wild media."


[23-May-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/6493yfyufj051.jpg

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[23-May-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe that affects europe as well and I can finally afford to not put 50% of my salary into renting property I won't own when I retire


[23-May-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Assuming I live until the future retirement age of 82


[23-May-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One day I can maybe move into my own deathtrap
https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/118574696#/

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Provisionsfrei: Einzigartiges Gestaltungspotential auf zwei Etagen
Maisonettewohnung zum Kauf (Wohnung/Kauf): 4 Zimmer - 53,4 qm - Puchanstraße 29, 12555 Berlin, Köpenick (Köpenick) bei ImmobilienScout24 (Scout-ID: 118574696)
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[23-May-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Places you can actually live in in Berlin start at 120,000 euro


[23-May-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For what's essentially a studio flat in a prewar or soviet building


[23-May-20 11:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Cool. with the money I make I can move to berlin in 120 years.

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[23-May-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/115674630

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Komfort 1-Zimmer Apartment - Singleapartment in ruhiger Wohnlage
Etagenwohnung zum Kauf (Wohnung/Kauf): 1 Zimmer - 29,2 qm - Heinersdorf (Weißensee) bei ImmobilienScout24 (Scout-ID: 115674630)
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[23-May-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or 100,000 if you want to live out of the city and pay 200 euro a month in transport


[23-May-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is the bathroom for an apartment going for 98k euro

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[23-May-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe i can move onto an empty houseless lot by retirement age


[23-May-20 11:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
320 a month to go back and forth on public transport here.
What the fuck is that bathroom?


[23-May-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta love it when toilets are crooked obstacles.


[23-May-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was probably put on because the old building was made before plumbing was much of a thing.


[23-May-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks like repurposed crawlspace in a building they cut up in pieces for multiple apartments


[23-May-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's really one of the fancier offerings in this city for under 200k euro


[23-May-20 11:28 PM] StarlightSword4444#4854
That's an...'interesting' bathroom.


[23-May-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gotta love the container under the sink to catch the constant leaking.


[23-May-20 11:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Lightbulb-on-wire" aestetic


[23-May-20 11:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
looks like they took a normal bathroom and stretched it into a long rectangle.
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[23-May-20 11:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen "interesting" bathroom... A tiny 1 x 2 meter room, a sink, a toilet next to it... And a shower head in the ceiling.


[23-May-20 11:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exiting the bathroom, you get into a 2 x 2 room. That's is a cottage flat.


[23-May-20 11:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
||Actually, it is an building for maid or any other service personnel working at premises||


[23-May-20 11:38 PM] StarlightSword4444#4854
That sounds unpleasant.


[23-May-20 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen studio apartments where there is no bathroom, it's just a toilet and shower hole in the kitchen area


[23-May-20 11:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The worst case: communal flat.


[23-May-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My spanish hometown has cheaper places, and is likely where I'll like to retire


[23-May-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly cheaper is stuff like this
https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/87137379/

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Piso en venta en calle las Armas, San Pablo, Zaragoza — idealista
piso de 50 m², Piso en venta en calle las Armas, San Pablo, Zaragoza, barrio San Pablo
https://img3.idealista.com/blur/WEB_DETAIL-M-L/0/id.pro.es.image.master/ae/30/94/712571454.jpg


[23-May-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Used to be groundfloor and they literally built the street over it, so it has windows that lead to dirt


[23-May-20 11:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Best small bathroom I ever saw was in a Prague hotel. 1 x 2 Open the door and the toilet is in front of you. To the right is the shower over a tile step. dividing the toilet from the shower. The sink is in the shower and the shower head comes out of the ceiling.


[23-May-20 11:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looking into housing is fucking depressing

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[23-May-20 11:48 PM] Crow#5457
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@stephlynn1982 @TheOfficialACM It's hilarious to me that people are calling it tyranny. I was thrilled at the idea of being able to legally wear a mask in public regularly
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[23-May-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/RQPa2zE.jpg

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I literally want everything here
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[23-May-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Old but gold.


[23-May-20 11:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Teaspoon Agreed


[23-May-20 11:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@PwnyPony Exactly what I said.


[23-May-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to figure out what on there is actually negative


[23-May-20 11:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which means these things are widespread all over world


[23-May-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
All of those are negatives to conservatives.


[23-May-20 11:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sink in the shower?


[23-May-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm guessing "Higher education for all". Be boomer and drop out high school and get a job like "real americans" do


[23-May-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Housing is shit everywhere


[23-May-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Except maybe the US outside of major cities


[23-May-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ in HK, they were called "coffin homes" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/29/hong-kong-coffin-homes-horror-my-week

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My week in Lucky House: the horror of Hong Kong's coffin homes
Benjamin Haas joins the retirees, working poor, drug addicts and convicted criminals who live crammed into the city’s tiny plywood cubicles
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[23-May-20 11:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US is full of paper houses.


[23-May-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare, education, and housing as a human right? Guns banned? A GUARANTEE of work? End of private prisons and ICE? Treating Puerto Rico like a real place? Action on global issues? Removing corruption? Women's rights? Gay rights? Elderly rights? Less stonks gambling?


[23-May-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Europe is terrible, it's all ancient buildings with plumbing from 1930 cut up into fucked-up proportioned apartments, or stupidly expensive flats


[23-May-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
All this shit conservatives hate.


[23-May-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie wait. i thought most of the conservative base were elders tho?


[23-May-20 11:53 PM] jimm#1439
that list would've been fine without the gun part

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[23-May-20 11:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Modular housing"


[23-May-20 11:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only way for someone that isn't rich or manages to land a job that makes them 100k euro a year to get a place to live in of their own is to inherit it


[23-May-20 11:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> plumbing from 1930 
so probably full of lead and abestos


[23-May-20 11:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
About plumbing, there are flat houses in Russia, in middle of the town, have no plumbing at all.


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] jimm#1439
we need to find some way to spread jobs out more so it's not just a billion people trying to cram into a tiny metro making the housing prices skyrocket


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ is it open street defecation like india?


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen more brass than lead


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] jimm#1439
hopefully remote work will help there


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Europe: Here are the new building codes, make it work, you can't demolish anything.
Russia: Building codes? What? Just put outhouse nearby.


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I don't think asbestos ever caught on here


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 Outhouse.


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
@jimm end neoliberalism.


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
England did


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Neoliberalism means cramming.


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, yes


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
England was also a big fan of lead paint


[23-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you don't provide any incentive to spread out, things naturally cluster.


[23-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why in many states, only the capital is growing.


[23-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The loss of subsidies to build things in other cities/towns means it's always more profitable to build things where the most people are only/first


[23-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
that then draws more people


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, most of America sees no GDP growth.


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
America's GDP is growing, but only in big cities.


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] jlun2#8758
and those "more people" somehow are almost always white men


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] jimm#1439
remote jobs seems really promising except there would need to be some provision to stop it all from going overseas, maybe heavy tariffs


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's completely stagnant in small towns.


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hah


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your real threat isn't China


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] jimm#1439
india


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, it's not just about where you build things


[23-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also about where the skills are


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
In a big city, ideas travel fast


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] jimm#1439
there are colleges with compsci graduates everywhere


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Building a headquarters in Seattle gets you more innovation than in Topeka


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm gonna see how work handles the increased demand for remote work


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Colleges naturally end up in big cities


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] jimm#1439
I went to one in a nice hamlet in upstate ny


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] jimm#1439
it was fine


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big cities are where it's easier to get more students.


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
No nice hamlet in upstate NY will hav a big college


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] jimm#1439
the college doesn't have to be big


[23-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because in an ideal scenario they allow some of us to do most work from home, meaning I could rent a place outside the city for half of what I pay now


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] jimm#1439
so you're saying I got a fake education because the population was too small


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a world of difference between something like MIT and your average local college.


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And only have to come in the office once a week or two


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that the education is fake


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bigger the college, the more it offers


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that your college is less respected


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it offers less


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it has less students.


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the game.


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] jimm#1439
the specific college only makes a difference if you went to some major name


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] jimm#1439
otherwise a degree is a degree


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon I'm still confused why do coding work needs ppl to be there instead of remotely


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It still matters a pretty big deal.


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also you need more than a degree now


[23-May-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
different degrees do different things


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need work experience, ideally at a major company


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] jlun2#8758
for instance, i coded my entire final assignment from home due to uni strike, so i have no idea why that cant be done


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
worked for 2 years at Microsoft and worked for 2 years at a dead startup in North Dakota are not the same.


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] jimm#1439
I had some small internship before my first real job but that was it


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are very large forces at play here.


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are not going to make the countryside grow just by enabling remote work.


[24-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You **need** to start providing subsidies.


[24-May-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money is the only thing companies listen to.


[24-May-20 12:01 AM] jlun2#8758
providing subsidies to large companies is fine while doing to smaller ones is commie :sad:


[24-May-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rural community colleges really only teach basic trades, hair dressing, and medical


[24-May-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most will just say "let's build headquarters in Seattle and prefer people move there"


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@jlun2 If the worker isn't physically present, how can you be sure they're working?


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that having the HQ there provides a lot in terms of infrastructure.


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if the company needs a good internet connection.


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It isn't enough that you actually do the work you're paid to do, you must devote all your time to doing it


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
No company is going to go to upstate NY and be able to do lots of real-time meetings and hav a huge website there.


[24-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to go to NYC and demand you liv within 50 miles.


[24-May-20 12:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're so good you did the work we paid you to do in 3 hours, that means you have 5 more hours to do unpaid work


[24-May-20 12:03 AM] jimm#1439
I ended up going to a town in new jersey after graduating


[24-May-20 12:03 AM] jimm#1439
decently nice setting, good pay


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] jimm#1439
the two colleges I went to that weren't in metro areas had some great faculty and the course material was more than adequate


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay now promise that to half the country.


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without providing any subsidies.


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
See how it goes.


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better colleges are also way out of range for people living in rural areas with no cars


[24-May-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like me


[24-May-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
probably "ew education. we didnt need that when I was growing up and we were fine." ~boomer parent


[24-May-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
(you'll have some *real* fun in the rural south)


[24-May-20 12:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There was a discussion about "why do i need to spend $5000 per month for school, when I can spend less?"


[24-May-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And further, expect that somehow companies are okay with people staying in Kansas doing all their work, no way to come physically to the office.


[24-May-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ "Why do we even need schools? Just get a job and learn!"


[24-May-20 12:07 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The answer was "While circulum stays the same, the rich school teaches kids that normal school doesnt."


[24-May-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm struggling to get a cashier job with a degree help


[24-May-20 12:07 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And it is called "Networking"


[24-May-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*job requires a degree* "young people these days are a bunch of lazy babies for not wanting these jobs!"


[24-May-20 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/xqJbE1bvdgo

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Angie Speaks on the Victorian Workhouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTATFRSPZq8

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[24-May-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have an associates degree in applied science, and given my location it probably won;t do jack shit


[24-May-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also


[24-May-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you move to a big city because the company demands it


[24-May-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
if ever you lose your job or something, rent is ridiculously expensive


[24-May-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
cause unregulated landlords knowing that people working for the big companies can charge more and still make money.


[24-May-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then you become homeless


[24-May-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
See Seattle.


[24-May-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie Just stop buying avocado toast. Easy.


[24-May-20 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
To add insult to injury, here, you *need* a car. It is not negotiable.


[24-May-20 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No public transport.


[24-May-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much. if you have no car you are stranded


[24-May-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like me!


[24-May-20 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Which country is that, again?


[24-May-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm in NC,USA


[24-May-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
is it backwards rural area filled with farmland


[24-May-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[24-May-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[24-May-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
with a walmart that killed all the local business


[24-May-20 12:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Here, in metros distances are ridiculously long. it is normal to spend up to 1 hour to get to work give or take 30 minutes for traffic variations.


[24-May-20 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
> with a walmart that killed all the local business
@prism stryder(intexda) 

When that declining rate of social profit kicks in and the concentration of capital kicks in


[24-May-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need a car to get to the dmv to get a drivers license, but then you need money to get a car, which still requires a license to operate. And then you need a job to get the money to get a car, but you cant get a job because you dont have a car to get to the job... :implying:


[24-May-20 12:16 AM] jlun2#8758
then your parents cant understand that and yell at you for being a parasite


[24-May-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually my parents are pretty understanding on that end


[24-May-20 12:17 AM] jlun2#8758
"lucky"?


[24-May-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you also need a job to afford a house but you dont have a car to get a job, and no one is going to hire you anyway


[24-May-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and for most trades you also need a fucking van which requires a seperate license, and i also have no credit score because i;ve been avoiding crippling debt my entire life, which means i functionally do not exist because our society runs on crippling debt.


[24-May-20 12:21 AM] Honahue#0656
the Snap On guy will help with that


[24-May-20 12:21 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno why people say that doing a trade keeps you out of debt, either owe tons of money to student loan or to a tool company


[24-May-20 12:22 AM] Honahue#0656
you can thrift with tools tho, but that's luck and timing


[24-May-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trades also require you to buy your own starter kit so in a sense it;s like an MLM with no feel good speak


[24-May-20 12:26 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and a SnapOn digital Torque wrench is easily 400 by itself, you want to repair cars, 2 types of air impact 3 maybe a 4th if dealing with heavy equipment, full set of hand tools, multimeter, code reader, ect, it could easily be in the 10's of k starter kit. Some shops will have a few tools but it can be 6 grand for the box not even the stuff in them


[24-May-20 12:27 AM] Honahue#0656
6 grand used


[24-May-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in hvac you have to pay for the fucking rule books


[24-May-20 12:27 AM] jlun2#8758
so when are the "trades are a scam, go to college" articles going to written in mass?


[24-May-20 12:27 AM] jlun2#8758
then cycle repeats


[24-May-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trades are taught in colleges


[24-May-20 12:28 AM] Honahue#0656
trades are good too and you can get into some without that huge investment


[24-May-20 12:28 AM] Honahue#0656
but with oil dropping expect to see a lot of F-250/350+ 100k welding trucks hit the market


[24-May-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
autonomous pet trucks when


[24-May-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are a lot of good trades if you knwo how to get into it, but the other problem is rising tool prices, lowering wages, rising fuel and refrigerant prices, and so on


[24-May-20 12:30 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it's telling that when the dotcom boost hit in the 90's you had a lot of Microsoft Millionaires starting companies but I've never heard of a single Haliburton Milloniare come from an oil feild who started welding pipe


[24-May-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trades basically keep things running behind the scenes, but right now they're being treated mroe like an MLM than a properly supported career


[24-May-20 12:31 AM] Honahue#0656
and welding pipe is a gig job too, every few months you're driving somewhere new, only difference is your interveiw is a welding test


[24-May-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for hvac it;s building a circuit board simulating a thermostat


[24-May-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which i am very not good at


[24-May-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i passed my classes on the written parts, i am god awful at the technical parts


[24-May-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
problem for me is there are no parts houses around here, so i don't even have that option


[24-May-20 12:34 AM] Honahue#0656
are there any computer sims circut builders?


[24-May-20 12:36 AM] Honahue#0656
unless you mean actualy soldering it together than I dunno sorry


[24-May-20 12:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I know there are soldering skills kits


[24-May-20 12:36 AM] Honahue#0656
but if you're broke already that doesn't help


[24-May-20 12:37 AM] Honahue#0656
basically in the US being broke means you stay broke no matter the advice


[24-May-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
> broke means you stay broke unless you stop buying avocado toast and lattes
boomered it


[24-May-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
avocawdo toast


[24-May-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:🥑🍞


[24-May-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s more of a wiring board than a soldering board


[24-May-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically you have to wire a thermostat and some lights up to several components and get it all working without causing a power trip or worse


[24-May-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yes, being in poverty is tremendously hard to get out of


[24-May-20 12:43 AM] jimm#1439
DMV etc. is probably too far to bike too right


[24-May-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[24-May-20 12:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would take hours to bike there and hours to bike back


[24-May-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially since i live out in the county outside town limits


[24-May-20 12:46 AM] jimm#1439
getting a license should be universally offered as part of high school optimally, for people who can't depend on parents


[24-May-20 12:47 AM] jimm#1439
and maybe no license needed for things like electric bikes


[24-May-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we need public transport out here but it wouldn't be profitable to a privatized system, so it won't happen


[24-May-20 12:50 AM] jimm#1439
do other countries put bus routes through farm land?


[24-May-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's something big cities have to offer, lot;s of people who can pay money ddaily for a bus ride


[24-May-20 12:51 AM] Honahue#0656
transport in general is almost impossible to make profit from, unless you're transporting frieght, transporting people isn't profitable


[24-May-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only trains that come through here are freight trains


[24-May-20 12:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Privatized public transport systems are quite crappy.


[24-May-20 12:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Saving on drivers, Saving on maintenace, Saving on safety.


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] jimm#1439
I've taken Greyhound a fair amount and I don't have any major complaints
late sometimes but that's universal to such things


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] jimm#1439
good prices and nice buses with free wifi


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another major issue that rural areas are facing right now is the potential loss of their mailing system as conservatives gear up to shut it down to keep people from mail in voting while selling off bits and pieces of it to private companies


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] jimm#1439
only annoyance was the wifi doesn't allow streaming like youtube


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont get greyhound out here


[24-May-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they literally do not offer stops here


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
tfw no maglev trains in the US


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
:sadface:


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] jimm#1439
hyperloop would be cool


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
WalMart has their own busses that comes into the city to pick people up cause it's outside the bus route


[24-May-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
hyperloop was a pipe dream, an interesting one, but one that would never work in practice


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's just a glorified subway for teslas now


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Musk couldn't even get the regular loop to work, and it's a subway except worse in everyway


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/opinions/smart-high-speed-trains-america/index.html

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Why can't America have high-speed trains? - CNN
News that a Japanese maglev train had reached a top speed of close to 400 miles per hour made headlines. So why can't America have high-speed trains?
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[24-May-20 12:55 AM] jimm#1439
huh, bit sparser than I imagined

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[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
maglev trains might look "futuristic", but they've literally been around for decades


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
evacuated tube trains have been a dream for atleat 100 years


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the usps becomes privatized, that's fucking it. no private corporation would ship so far out here due to lack of  profitability


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
> Imagine being able to travel from New York to Los Angeles without having to step on a plane, yet be able to do so in a fraction of the time it would take to drive. On the surface, that tantalizing prospect took a step closer with the news last month that a Japanese maglev train had reached a top speed of close to 400 mph, breaking its own world record in the process.
> And the sight of futuristic looking trains whizzing past platforms at hundreds of miles per hour isn't confined to Japan: China, France and Spain, to name a few, have their own high-speed rail networks. Indeed, while these bullet trains may look futuristic, they have been around for decades; they're a tried and tested technology that the Japanese debuted over 50 years ago.


[24-May-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
> over 50 years ago


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] jimm#1439
fedex and ups don't deliver to you?


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they charge out the ass


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] Honahue#0656
we can't have proven technologies that's not I N N O V A T I V E


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] Honahue#0656
aka hard to patent


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They can't because of the auto and oil lobbies


[24-May-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
> While several countries have undertaken the tough work of raising the money to invest in bullet trains, it's unlikely the United States will ever see the vast network of high-speed trains that blanket other countries. Indeed, passenger rail service in the United States lags behind much of the rest of the developed world, for several reasons.
> 
> For a start, much of the United States is not exactly an ideal market for high-speed rail. Compared to places where rail really flourishes -- Japan and Western Europe, for instance -- the United States is geographically vast. As a result, in much of the country, cities are far enough apart that air travel provides significant time savings, even compared to some of the fastest trains.


[24-May-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly americans, thinking you have any power or say


[24-May-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's "not an ideal market"


[24-May-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fedex and ups charge out the ass to deliver letters and packages, they also dump non profitable mail on the usps


[24-May-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're just consumers for corps to grind into bonemeal and snort like cocaine


[24-May-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
> However, the biggest barrier to improved rail service in the United States is simply the lack of political will. At the federal level, support for passenger rail service has languished and Washington has devolved decision-making (and increasingly, funding) to the states. With the nation's transportation trust fund nearly broke and no permanent solution in sight, it seems unlikely the federal government will champion high-speed rail -- a costly endeavor -- in the near future.


[24-May-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the usps, the unprofitable mail would just get dumped in a landfill probably


[24-May-20 12:58 AM] Honahue#0656
this already happened in telecomm, AT&T or Bell Labs or whatever they were called back when wouldn't put phone line into rural areas cause it cost too much and provided too little untill the Governement stepped in and forced them too, we have a similar problem now with high speed internet


[24-May-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Ground_Transportation_Act_of_1965

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High Speed Ground Transportation Act of 1965
The High Speed Ground Transportation Act of 1965 (Public Law 89-220, 79 Stat. 893) was the first attempt by the U.S. Congress to foster the growth of high-speed rail in the U.S. The High Speed Ground Transportation Act was introduced immediately following the creation of Japan...


[24-May-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
we had the groundwork laid down for high speed rail under LBJ, but it got defunded to fuck by all the conservatives and neoliberals that came after him


[24-May-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
When UPS or FEDEX deliver, it;s usually just large packages ordered from walmart or some other retailer


[24-May-20 01:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just fund Amtrak god dammit


[24-May-20 01:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As far I know, passenger public transport is run at loss.


[24-May-20 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
every business that transport humans survives on subsidies


[24-May-20 01:04 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no money in it only frieght is profitable


[24-May-20 01:07 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Otherwise it could run into costs equivalent to airfares


[24-May-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-postal-service-run-out-money-september-coronavirus-covid-19-2020-5

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The US Postal Service now has 5,000 employees in quarantine and onl...
Estimates for how long the USPS can last have fluctuated, but communicate the same thing: that without extra funding, the USPS doesn't have much time.
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[24-May-20 01:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That is what happens currently in Russia. it costs the same to take train between cities or take airplane


[24-May-20 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
First class is also available on trains


[24-May-20 01:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> You're just consumers for corps to grind into bonemeal and snort like cocaine
||Now I want to grind and snort ponies.||

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[24-May-20 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
> every business that transport humans survives on subsidies
@Honahue 

I'd say bussing is an exception but that's because bussing is reliant on already laid roads which are a government concern and thus publically available to all. They don't need to do much.


[24-May-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue I just assume rural area is some weird :zombiepony: that keeps somehow having more people but in perpetual decline simultaneously by now.


[24-May-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 oh hi whitekitten


[24-May-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You aren;t entirely wrong about that


[24-May-20 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNEvdqn0VgA

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[24-May-20 01:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
lmao rip


[24-May-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>weeks away from peak
oof


[24-May-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/499269-trump-escalates-fight-against-mail-in-voting

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Trump escalates fight against mail-in voting
President Trump this week ratcheted up his attacks on mail-in voting as more states move to increase absentee ballot access due to coronavirus uncertainties.
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[24-May-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"To really vote, and without fraud, you have to go and you have to vote at the polling place"


[24-May-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fukk soldiers I guess


[24-May-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile he yells about how polling places are also full of voter fruad

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[24-May-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck me too I guess


[24-May-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should take a plane to the US to vote


[24-May-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what he unironically wants


[24-May-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
After all, you're a dirty traitor


[24-May-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess fuck me too since i;m quarentining until it;s actually safe to go into crowded areas


[24-May-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's forget that Trump changed residence to Florida in order to evade NY justice and has been voting remotely


[24-May-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it;s not fraud when he does it, only when you do it


[24-May-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His lawyer, in front of the supreme court, literally argued that Trump could start murdering people in the street


[24-May-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And not only could he not be charged for it


[24-May-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the police wouldn't be able to stop him


[24-May-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There'd be no legal basis for the police to stop him


[24-May-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It seems like they don't want _Clinton v. Jones_ to be a thing


[24-May-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is absurd


[24-May-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a populist runs for president even though he's been suspected that he is a serial killer


[24-May-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't do anything to him while he's president


[24-May-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Immunity for some things is one thing


[24-May-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't even be investigated for misconduct in office, then impeachment and removal have no power at all.


[24-May-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
I assume it works?


[24-May-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't be investigated while in office, there can never be a case of a high crime or misdemeanor built against you


[24-May-20 01:36 AM] jlun2#8758
more like, Trump can actually go kill people and GOP will defend him all the way?


[24-May-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump wants the presidency to be an iron fortress where he is safe from all threats to his wealth and power


[24-May-20 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
His idiotic policy bungling has killed tens of thousands


[24-May-20 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Not just from corona


[24-May-20 01:37 AM] jlun2#8758
"we owning libs so its all right" ~GOP?


[24-May-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The presidency has gone from civil servant elected by and for the people to iron god king immune to laws who can do whatever he damned well pleases even if it gets thousands of millions killed in the process


[24-May-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Local BDSM enthusiast only man willing to assume presidency"


[24-May-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's scheduling nuke tests


[24-May-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
"Michael Jackson doesn't vote for Joe Biden, 2008 (uncolorized)" https://i.redd.it/wfzntzk0fk051.jpg

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[24-May-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/FQQCxQuxSjQ?t=2249

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQCxQuxSjQ&start=2249
BBC Horizon 2004   Horizon Special   End Day
There's only one other copy of this on YouTube, and the quality sucks, and every other copy online is some website run by complete a-holes.  So, here it is.
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[24-May-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"End Day" for a virus that causes 300k deaths


[24-May-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[24-May-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
1000 deaths in London, guiz!


[24-May-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean the army would totally declare martial law to protect people if something like that happened right


[24-May-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon https://i.redd.it/u1hc25kg8cz41.png

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[24-May-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The answer is D


[24-May-20 01:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unanswerable


[24-May-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can find a thread on /v/ that doesn't bring up ABC but always D


[24-May-20 01:53 AM] jlun2#8758
Playing video games magicks you a penis


[24-May-20 01:56 AM] Honahue#0656
surprised gamers aren't up in arms that in ManEater, the MC who is a woman is someone most people wouldn't want to jerk off too


[24-May-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-20 02:07 AM] Sunnyside#3103
military bases have designated polling places


[24-May-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-May-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not everyone deployed overseas is on a base


[24-May-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plenty that are on TDY or embedded with local forces


[24-May-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/1264338572309680129

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It didn’t have to be this bad.
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[24-May-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Obama say something like the Republicans want to put you back in chains once


[24-May-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, that was Biden

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[24-May-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> He is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street. He is going to put y'all back in chains.
In reference to Romney


[24-May-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When talking to a group of black democrats


[24-May-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden's been a fuckup since day one


[24-May-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's literally what he was known for during the whole Obama presidency


[24-May-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was the court jester, there for boomer quips and big friendly smiles and to fuck up in some "oh, joe!" way while Obama droned some wedding somewhere in whocaresistan


[24-May-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
funny because he's not even a boomer


[24-May-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
he's a goddamn silent


[24-May-20 03:32 AM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking the answer is C duh


[24-May-20 03:32 AM] ononim#8141
because it includes all other answers


[24-May-20 03:32 AM] ononim#8141
unless I am in teh dark to some more esoteric meaning of the word in american linguo


[24-May-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
no it refers to "racial minorities"


[24-May-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Specifically not north-west european white


[24-May-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Italo americans are still iffy, too many sicilians


[24-May-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And nevermind slavs


[24-May-20 03:40 AM] ononim#8141
time to despoil some teutonic maidens


[24-May-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol it was Biden


[24-May-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wasn't senile eight years ago


[24-May-20 03:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's just not good at talking


[24-May-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs

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Cops do 20,000 no-knock raids a year. Civilians often pay the price...
Here's what you need to know about no-knock SWAT raids
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[24-May-20 03:50 AM] illumnious#7938
Soon™️

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[24-May-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did it jump? I was estimating 100k by June 1st, looks like I was conservative


[24-May-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
oh no TSP is conservative


[24-May-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
-_-


[24-May-20 03:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Or next week, you’ll never know


[24-May-20 03:56 AM] jlun2#8758
May is now legally June so you can remain right


[24-May-20 04:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
May is legal 👀

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[24-May-20 04:16 AM] ononim#8141
>oh no TSP is conservative


[24-May-20 04:16 AM] ononim#8141
I can't believe dad is going to beat me for being homogay


[24-May-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember when I was in lawschool and the upscale rightwing kids kinda gravitated towards me because I dressed well, studied hard, and was always respectful with professors


[24-May-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then one asked me about what I'd change in society


[24-May-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My answer of "cut off the church from all public funding and special statuses and abolish the nuclear family unit" was not what they expected


[24-May-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How did they react


[24-May-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"But, don't you love your family? I don't get it, I thought you went to a catholic school too?"


[24-May-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[24-May-20 04:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Imagine loving your family


[24-May-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, but I do, I was extremely fortunate in the family lottery


[24-May-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's a problem, it's a lottery, and a lot of people lose really fucking hard


[24-May-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's where unfairness in society starts, not just shit like inheritance or presents for Christmas, but really simple things like a mother that hugs you and means it or a father that sees your weird hobby and is supportive


[24-May-20 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As for the church, well, fuck that whole mess


[24-May-20 04:53 AM] ononim#8141
Based


[24-May-20 05:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Teaspoon when he gets his way with the Church

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[24-May-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am extremely critical of the republicans for their violence against clergy and associated people


[24-May-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Murder's murder


[24-May-20 05:05 AM] ononim#8141
god I hate how Stalin decided to bring back the church for "morale" in ww2


[24-May-20 05:06 AM] ononim#8141
now we have to deal with these bastards again


[24-May-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon You went to law school?


[24-May-20 05:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-May-20 05:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wasting money to own the libs


[24-May-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes Its, in Spanish system


[24-May-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a 5 year degree; you do 3 years for a "minor" after which you can split into specialities like criminology or economic law, or do the full 5 in law to do the bar exam and be a lawyer


[24-May-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I did the 3, got depressed the system was complete bullshit, decided to move to another country and study a short CS degree


[24-May-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's much less complicated in the US.


[24-May-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do your undergrad in whatever you want really, go to law school, three years, bar.


[24-May-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes you think when you realize the US has tons of legal malpractice and professional discipline


[24-May-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lawyers in the US system are meant to be experienced in giving judges the raw crud to turn into refined bullshit to justify oppressing minorities.


[24-May-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't meant to understand it all.


[24-May-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they had it all figured out before they started their internships, they'd rebel against the corrupt system.


[24-May-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey now, that's not fair. They're also meant to be experienced ensuring companies can fuck over people of all races.


[24-May-20 05:25 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPFPBzr7FgY

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[24-May-20 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
tfw learning all about the lack of environmental laws in Spain in the 90's through to the 00's thanks to Franco and his legacy and how the Spanish may well just kill off the Mediterranean


[24-May-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Atlantropa would have probably been better at this point


[24-May-20 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you just dump hundreds of metric tons of highly toxic, highly radioactive fertilizer production waste in swampy ground next to the river. Then some decades later have a burst at the steel mill spilling out radioactively decaying cesium all over.


[24-May-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
>So you dump the cesium on the phosogypsium left over from the fertilizer production of the mid-1900's and maybe some hydrocarbon waste, throw some dirt, and walk away.


[24-May-20 05:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
>The whole mess is some 22 times more radioactive than normal and single handedly cuts five years off everyone's life in the city literally right next door. All to respiratory cancer.


[24-May-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
>And since it's in a swamp too, it'll leak into the water and get drunk and then flow out to sea.


[24-May-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man I can't wait for the Southern European Northern African wasteland. The whole southern half of Europe is just gonna be fucking Libya.


[24-May-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And nothing of value was lost


[24-May-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But seriously, sucks.


[24-May-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, here's a map the local resident - who was explaining this to me on my server - shared to illustrate the ordeal

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[24-May-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
The red zone is just one giant toxic waste dump


[24-May-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Green is the city.


[24-May-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yellow is the factories


[24-May-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
He just posted this map of regions of high-as-fuck cancer rates in Spain

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[24-May-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think he lives in Cadiz


[24-May-20 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
His river flows red with industrial waste.


[24-May-20 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
All of it has been sentenced to a radioactive graveyard but the companies be like, "Nah"


[24-May-20 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
So it sits, gets added to, and another five years is shaved off.


[24-May-20 07:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-20 07:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-20 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
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[24-May-20 08:13 AM] Crow#5457
this twitter account got suspended


[24-May-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
spazio's twitter account seems to have been deleted though


[24-May-20 08:55 AM] Opponent#3498
```god I hate how Stalin decided to bring back the church for "morale" in ww2
now we have to deal with these bastards again```
it's the natural choice though. Like in middle east - you have nothing to contest but 2 palm trees per square kilometer. But you do have God! Gives life purpose.


[24-May-20 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
worship the palm trees like your ancestors did


[24-May-20 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
reject modernity embrase animism


[24-May-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
become monke


[24-May-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
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[24-May-20 01:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why do the US state capitals suck compared to the largest city ones?


[24-May-20 01:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The capitals seem to be not so popular than the largest city


[24-May-20 01:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like New York's capital is Albany, not New York City


[24-May-20 01:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because as it turns out state government isn't that big of a buisiness and many were picked simply because no one wanted to give their already bustling economic centers any more influence.


[24-May-20 01:59 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Ohio's Columbus, not Cleveland


[24-May-20 01:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like Lansing was built because everyone in Michigan was like, "fuck Detroit". And because Detroit was also too close to Canada and they were worried about a second 1812


[24-May-20 02:00 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It doesn't make sense if California's Sacramento


[24-May-20 02:00 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And wtf, Lansing, not Detroit for Michigan?


[24-May-20 02:01 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm a foreigner btw


[24-May-20 02:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
As I said, it's an influence thing. These cities already have a great deal of influence (or had, in the case of Detroit) which would be alienating to the state as a whole. So the capital gets plopped somewhere where that's not as issue


[24-May-20 02:03 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is it bad that Georgia, Hawaii, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Rhode Island and Utah made the right one?


[24-May-20 02:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk about the other states because they don't seem to be that interesting


[24-May-20 02:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/putin-russia-electoral-law-remote-vote-200524091018355.html

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[24-May-20 02:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
NYC makes sense for being a capital right?


[24-May-20 02:05 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk if any other American knows their country that well


[24-May-20 02:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those states you mentioned, for a long time their capital city was also the only city that had worth putting on a map...


[24-May-20 02:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, except for Hawaii which was an actual country before it was annexed.


[24-May-20 02:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
So the capital was just the pre-existing national capital.


[24-May-20 02:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
But not the same building. Once it got statehood in the fifties there was a boom in construction for new infrastructure.


[24-May-20 02:08 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk, should capitals be interesting?


[24-May-20 02:09 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not like a normal town as the capital


[24-May-20 02:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
Not really


[24-May-20 02:10 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I bet not a lot of people go to Albany


[24-May-20 02:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Having been there I can say they do


[24-May-20 02:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not that small of a city.


[24-May-20 02:10 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Does it have life?


[24-May-20 02:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Very much life


[24-May-20 02:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a city of sky scraper's and a rats nest of elevated highways


[24-May-20 02:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
Along the Hudson


[24-May-20 02:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So many lights


[24-May-20 02:13 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
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Drive through Albany New York (State Street plus Capitol tour)
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[24-May-20 02:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well every city in the US has lights. We were fully electrified and plummed in the seventies. Except for maybe some isolated hollers in Apalachia


[24-May-20 02:13 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
looks historical


[24-May-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's not New York City which basically lost all of its historical buildings, or most of them


[24-May-20 02:14 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How does it compare to Pyongyang?


[24-May-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because even in the "Bad old days" NYC kept growing


[24-May-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
I dunno. I have never been to Pyongyang. But I can say for sure it wasn't carpet bombed to the stone age by America


[24-May-20 02:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
By virtue of being in America


[24-May-20 02:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've seen more lifeless cities irl


[24-May-20 02:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, real Mapuche energy reminder

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[24-May-20 02:18 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Texas is weird


[24-May-20 02:18 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But it's not weird as Florida's headlines


[24-May-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is Chile I should say. Not the US if that was the confusion


[24-May-20 02:23 PM] jlun2#8758
> Historical buildings
Knowing the US, that sounds like code for <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY> to keep prices high


[24-May-20 02:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't know about the election system of the US... Is Trump possible to be reelected?


[24-May-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you mean technically, yes


[24-May-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US presidents can be elected to two full terms


[24-May-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you mean can he actually win, then definitely also yes


[24-May-20 02:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No I mean realistically


[24-May-20 02:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[24-May-20 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A good two fifths of the voting population will vote on party line no matter what, and he has loads of people that would jump under a tank for him because they think he's a strongman


[24-May-20 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile the democrats are doing everything they can to sabotage their chances


[24-May-20 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So tbh my money is on Trump winning reelection unless something drastic happens


[24-May-20 02:34 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Nice


[24-May-20 02:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The virus is something pretty drastic, put people have terrible memory


[24-May-20 02:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All Chinese people hope Trump to be reelected... idk why


[24-May-20 02:36 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe just for Trump memes


[24-May-20 02:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So unless there's a massive second wave before November, or the economy hot air balloon deflates, every fuckup will be forgotten


[24-May-20 02:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the problem is Trump fucks up so often that people only remember the most recent few


[24-May-20 02:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, on a practical level, Trump makes the US weaker, so anyone that wants to see their country compete against america would want Trump as its leader


[24-May-20 02:38 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There won't be a second wave if the first wave doesn't stop

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[24-May-20 02:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Knowing the US, that sounds like code for <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY> to keep prices high
@jlun2 

You can do things with historical buildings in the US that help to alleviate housing costs. Many old buildings that people want to preserve anyways are generally sprawling Victorian town houses or mansions. Historical preservation is dependent on local ordinance and jurisdiction but the general rule of thumb is to preserve the exterior. So developers who pick up an old townhouse and want to rent it out will sub-divide the building's interior into a series of separate units and put those on the market. So a once one-family building turns into a three or four small family. Otherwise anything else to be preserved is in the country side or small towns where the economic pressure isn't so hard to do things with these buildings.

Or you can do what Pittsburgh often does and just demolishes their historical buildings via neglect. There's a neighborhood in the city that was supposed to be re-developed to build new old-style and high density row houses where they were originally knocked down to put up high-rises that was actually just lower density than what existed already. But they failed to commit to anything beyond the very first step and after knocking down a few clearly unsalvageable older homes have been slowly knocking down the neighboring buildings by neglect, since these being connected row houses the only division between the two is softer and less resilient internal walls which rot quickly when exposed to the elements as they are.


[24-May-20 02:46 PM] jlun2#8758
rip ty


[24-May-20 02:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Donald Trump actually came under fire in New York years ago for fucking up historical preservation ordinances there. Or just willingly ignoring it. To build one of his new developments he took over ownership of an older building. The law in New York was you have to preserve so many walls to count and the community in general wanted him to keep at least one wall up that had a mural on it, since he had knocked all others down by then.

But then he decided, "fuck you" and had it knocked down anyways to build


[24-May-20 02:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
can't believe trump hates walls so much


[24-May-20 02:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Where's my historical preservation episode, DoNotEat! You keep eluding to it every so often and mentioning you have to do it still!


[24-May-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1262417691526209536?s=19

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[24-May-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*activate coping mechanisms*


[24-May-20 03:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Send all NYT editors to the country to pick strawberries to reconnect them with the land


[24-May-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
is this bait


[24-May-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is not
> Mr. Strain is an economist at the American Enterprise Institute.


[24-May-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Of course he is


[24-May-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Now, suppose that in order to increase the incomes of people at the bottom by a factor of two, you had no choice but to increase the incomes of the top 20 percent by a factor of 2.5. Would you still wave the wand? If so, you may be less concerned about inequality than you think.


[24-May-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking gigagalaxy brain take


[24-May-20 03:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
In the future, all members of the Mises Institute and bodies adjacent will be forced into the fields


[24-May-20 03:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> that in order to increase the outcomes of people at the bottom by a factor of two,


[24-May-20 03:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ah, yes, multiplying practically nothing by two


[24-May-20 03:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks mr Strain, good thought


[24-May-20 03:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"What if we give people with power more power on a logarithmic scale, nothing bad would happen to those without, surely, things just improve!"


[24-May-20 03:16 PM] jlun2#8758
he's some old boomer right


[24-May-20 03:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No info on his age but he does have the putrid boomer spirit


[24-May-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Strain

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[24-May-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.aei.org/profile/michael-r-strain/

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Michael R. Strain is a resident scholar and the director of economic policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).
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[24-May-20 03:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
What is this spaghetti-ass title https://www.aei.org/research-products/working-paper/minimum-wage-analysis-using-a-pre-committed-research-design-evidence-through-2018/

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Using data through 2017, it shows that relatively large minimum wage increases reduced employment among low-skilled individuals by just over 2 percentage points.


[24-May-20 03:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, literally, "Higher wage is lower employment"


[24-May-20 03:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
very cool thank. Now fuck off capitalism boye. Time for real Marx hours.


[24-May-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reeks of frat boy that spent summers at his parents' home in Maine


[24-May-20 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Yes I spend summers at my parent's third house at Martha' Vineyard. I am normal. How can you tell?"


[24-May-20 03:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-fraud-south-philly-judge-elections-guilty-domenick-demuro-democrat-voting-machines/

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[24-May-20 03:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But I thought you could only fake votes with "fraud by mail"???


[24-May-20 04:25 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Wait, there's vote buying in the US?


[24-May-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-May-20 04:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://newsbotlab.com/politics/obama-we-need-more-roblox-2020-5-23-19-18

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Obama: We Need More Roblox
Obama: We Need More Roblox To Kill More African Americans...
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[24-May-20 04:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
a bot made this


[24-May-20 06:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:zeeb:


[24-May-20 06:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~Can I die to Minecraft instead~~


[24-May-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-May-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine a Karen so detached she has never engaged in politics in her life before

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[24-May-20 06:20 PM] illumnious#7938
> a bot made this
@SymphonyDawn3  dammmm


[24-May-20 06:58 PM] jimm#1439
New York's situation is unfortunate. city-controlled state legislature forces a bunch of stuff on upstate that they don't want like the SAFE act


[24-May-20 06:59 PM] jimm#1439
there's a lot of natural beauty there though


[24-May-20 07:01 PM] jimm#1439
I think everyone would be better off if the state was split into two


[24-May-20 07:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/grocery-store-salad-bar-alcohol-candy

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[24-May-20 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
k...


[24-May-20 07:30 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/05/queens-park-protest-toronto-march/
the stupidity is spreading help

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[24-May-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> Latest protest at Queen's Park in Toronto included a march and people licking statues


[24-May-20 07:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
At this point in time, they should just end the lockdown. Not because I agree with them, but because they'd most likely be affected by it.

Of course that will directly or indirectly harm myself as well, but maybe even more people have to die for people to get the message.


[24-May-20 07:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony:


[24-May-20 07:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
~~and then when 90% of us are gone, Tencent will swoop in and buy Toronto~~


[24-May-20 07:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
> At this point in time, they should just end the lockdown. Not because I agree with them, but because they'd most likely be affected by it.
> 
> Of course that will directly or indirectly harm myself as well, but maybe even more people have to die for people to get the message.
@Marukomuru 

I'm in the same boat. I feel pretty strongly that we'll see much higher numbers if we weren't in even the mildest Shelter At Home orders. But they keep going, ".2% FATALITY RATE THIS WAS NO BIG DEAL". But if we lifted the orders and elt go things go back to normal that'll spike hard and I'm at a point where there will probably no way to convince them but to let even greater deamicide occur.

It'll just have to be said before that this will happen and they are not allowed to be shocked when it happens.


[24-May-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Teaspoon you forget that COVID-19 created a healthcare-led recession.


[24-May-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The primary reason the economy is falling apart is that hospitals and insurers can't make money right now.


[24-May-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
People are foregoing elective procedures while not paying for the COVID-19 stuff being done.


[24-May-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a quarter of the decline in GDP.


[24-May-20 07:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52792200

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PM backs key aide Dominic Cummings in lockdown row
Boris Johnson says his adviser acted "legally and with integrity" when making a 260-mile trip for childcare.
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[24-May-20 08:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Many of you are asking, 'Is the goverment asking you to do one thing and doing another themselves?' Yes, but that's OK in this case :^) "


[24-May-20 08:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's one damn dedicated child

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[24-May-20 08:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Goddam


[24-May-20 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(CNN livefeed)


[24-May-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
lol


[24-May-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
CNN great


[24-May-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[24-May-20 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261626674686447621

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The Radical Left is in total command & control of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Google. The Administration is working to remedy this illegal situation. Stay tuned, and send names & events. Thank you Michelle! https://t.co/ZQfcfD3Hk9
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[24-May-20 08:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...
1. Imagine thinking "the radical left" has control of those companies
2. Imagine thinking it would in any way be illegal


[24-May-20 08:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nationalize them, that would be a good idea


[24-May-20 09:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Glad to know that all of Facebook is my Bordiga Reading Group then. Which means we are all in agreement: the USSR and PRC are actually capitalist nations. Let us circle the armchairs

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[24-May-20 09:29 PM] ononim#8141
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[24-May-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why


[24-May-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
apparently it is anti sexting tweet


[24-May-20 09:31 PM] ononim#8141
not sure if it makes it less cursed or more

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[24-May-20 09:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Si te arriesgas con el sexting puedes perder el control de tu imagen y algo más. NO hay marcha atrás.
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[24-May-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanish civil guard had a hate on on kids sending nude pics due to the pics eventually being spread after breakups or whatever for bullying


[24-May-20 09:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For some years their twitter was managed by... funny guys


[24-May-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://cadenaser.com/ser/2017/02/21/gente/1487679717_808485.html

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La Guardia Civil triunfa en Twitter con su respuesta al zafio mensa...
El 'community manager' de la Benemérita provoca las carcajadas de los usuarios
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[24-May-20 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
had?


[24-May-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I haven't seen anything recent like that


[24-May-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
> McSwain said DeMuro added between 27 to 46 fraudulent ballots during the three years of elections focused on by the investigation. While the numbers sound small, they represented 22% of the total votes cast in DeMuro's division in 2014, 15% in 2015 and 17% of the votes in 2016.


[24-May-20 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
wow, a single judge added 27-46 fraudulent ballots and was found guilty and punished, must be a huge widespread unreported plague of voter fraud


[24-May-20 09:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Republicans would totes not do this too guys


[24-May-20 09:53 PM] Crow#5457
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[24-May-20 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
to be fair, in capitalism the loss is calculable


[24-May-20 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
less people means less productivity means less money


[24-May-20 09:55 PM] illumnious#7938
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIT


[24-May-20 09:56 PM] illumnious#7938
TOPKEK photoshop


[24-May-20 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
AAAAAAAAHHH I'M GOOLFING


[24-May-20 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
THE 74 YEAR OLD GOOLFER


[24-May-20 09:58 PM] illumnious#7938
United States of Fuckery

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[24-May-20 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
USA USA USA


[24-May-20 09:59 PM] illumnious#7938
of course


[24-May-20 09:59 PM] illumnious#7938
I hate my country sometimes


[24-May-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a common sentiment.


[24-May-20 10:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/black-trump-voter-admits-the-president-is-a-racist-and-that-wouldnt-keep-him-from-voting-for-him-again/

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In an interview with the Daily Beast, a black voter who cast his vote for Barack Obama twice to be president admitted that he voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and would have no problem voting for him again despite the fact that he knows the president is a racist. Speaking with t...
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[24-May-20 10:02 PM] illumnious#7938
they just noticed that


[24-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trends

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[24-May-20 10:08 PM] illumnious#7938
#TrumpGolfsYouDie aka almost 100k deaths


[24-May-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought someone had finally broken Ann Coulter's philactery, how is she relevant again?


[24-May-20 10:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/status/1264582216581025792?s=20

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And so, 10 years after finishing the final Harry Potter book, Ann Coulter finally figured out that Voldemort was the bad guy. https://t.co/6ylIgn8oWn
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[24-May-20 10:10 PM] illumnious#7938
I guess she have a book out


[24-May-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh wow, she went full mad on Trump
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ann-coulter-turns-disloyal-actual-172315065.html

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Ann Coulter went on an early Sunday morning Twitter tear, calling President Donald Trump “the most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office.”The far-right media pundit and former Trump defender was triggered by the president’s Friday tweet in which he c...
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[24-May-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
brillant


[24-May-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1264477349535416328

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The most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office is trying to lose AND take the Senate with him.  Another Roy Moore fiasco so he can blame someone else for his own mess. https://t.co/fIzHtmbOfR
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[24-May-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1264478130766524421

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COVID gave Trump a chance to be a decent, compassionate human being (or pretending to be). But he couldn't even do that. https://t.co/fIzHtmbOfR
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[24-May-20 10:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/anncoulter/status/1264486156093337602?s=21

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Trump's first attempt to blame someone else for his decision to tell Lester Holt he fired Comey over Russia (thus getting him a Special Prosecutor):
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[24-May-20 10:23 PM] jlun2#8758
> Grant also admitted that he doesn’t think the president is particularly smart, but he does admire him as a businessman.
> 
> “He does know how to make money,” says Grant. “He’s not an honest man and he’s not too bright, but he don’t give a fuck. You know what I’m saying? He’s not the most well-spoken but he stands his ground—and that’s part of being a man. He can do that very well.”
:ponythinking:


[24-May-20 10:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1264589317277650946

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Ann Coulter didn't say anything righteous. She simply insulted Trump for not being evil enough. Why in the ever living hell are you people praising her?
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[24-May-20 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/anncoulter/status/1264479845523894278?s=21

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GREAT WORK IN THE LAST ALABAMA SENATE RACE, MR. PRESIDENT!  Keep it up and we'll have zero Republican senators. The next Republican president will be elected in the year 4820. https://t.co/fIzHtmbOfR
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[24-May-20 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
she's actually roasted him hard


[24-May-20 10:26 PM] illumnious#7938
in the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3OFEKUasQA

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Biden Leading Florida & Arizona
--Notable discussions from the David Pakman Show Reddit, including about Biden vs Trump, endless food buffets, and the unintended consequences of coronavirus lockdowns

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow/

Support The David Pakman Show:
-Become a Member: https://www.d...
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[24-May-20 10:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/palmerreport/status/1264621858281992200?s=21

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Donald Trump's day so far:

- Ann Coulter attacks him
- Chris Wallace slams Trump regime
- Nikki Haley is terrible
- Trump lies about death toll
- Then he goes golfing again
- What an evil asshole
- Trump is going to prison
- It's still only 2:15pm
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[24-May-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
> Trump is going to prison
:wheeze:


[24-May-20 10:37 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEEEEZE


[24-May-20 10:37 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[24-May-20 10:37 PM] illumnious#7938
good bot


[24-May-20 10:42 PM] illumnious#7938
that would be a dream come fucking true


[24-May-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/travel/news/2020/05/17/ocean-city-sees-packed-crowds-coronavirus-restrictions-lift/5208615002/

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Coronavirus: Ocean City boardwalk sees packed crowds as beach reopens
Ocean City, Maryland, was packed Saturday after the mayor reopened the beach a week prior.
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[24-May-20 10:54 PM] jlun2#8758
and none of them outdoors get sick ofc. their families that stayed home? sick ofc


[24-May-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Same in Barcelona


[24-May-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People don't even normally go to the beach this time of year, the water's still freezing


[24-May-20 10:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon the government is clearly cooling down the water to stop people from going to the beach. cant let them stop you right


[24-May-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
also fucking assholes https://twitter.com/WasARepublican2/status/1264313532667047941?s=20

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Bunch of fucking losers.  https://t.co/HOQVrWYekk
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[24-May-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
take it off


[24-May-20 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[24-May-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_unzips pants_


[24-May-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-May-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-May-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Quarantine is literally not that


[24-May-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's when you contain people that could potentially be sick to avoid them spreading it further


[24-May-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they're confirmed sick they're no longer in quarentine


[24-May-20 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/IMundebo/status/1264660555614257152

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@PalmerReport @PattyLehner Ingemar Mundebo attacks him too

#Trump #HoleInOne or #InOneHole @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/urRU6ifrJJ
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[24-May-20 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
People's Militia time

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[25-May-20 12:19 AM] jimm#1439
incorporating some elements from switzerland's mandatory service stuff would be good


[25-May-20 12:23 AM] jimm#1439
https://joj2020.com/neutrailty-and-peace/


[25-May-20 12:24 AM] jimm#1439
my only issue with this page is that a little intervention is necessary sometimes


[25-May-20 12:25 AM] jimm#1439
like helping out hong kong, tibet etc would be good


[25-May-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938

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[25-May-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
Here we go again


[25-May-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938

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[25-May-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
Welp


[25-May-20 01:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-campaign-ad-trump-golf-1506232

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[25-May-20 01:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1264632385691410433?s=21

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We’re in the middle of a global pandemic, and the Trump Administration is trying to prevent people from getting health care. https://t.co/B46LlVfWaL
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[25-May-20 01:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1264374557860716544?s=21

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Nearly 100,000 lives have been lost, and tens of millions are out of work.

Meanwhile, the president spent his day golfing. https://t.co/H1BVNtgVjA
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[25-May-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://medium.com/sincerely-joe/sincerely-joe-ffe31d0763d1

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Sincerely, Joe
Hundreds of people write letters, emails and direct messages to Joe Biden every day, with questions, looking for support and leadership…
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[25-May-20 01:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
Guys, I think the US Airforce is on super crack.


[25-May-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-May-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-May-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-May-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[25-May-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.slideshare.net/LivermoreLab/yeaw-llnl-multi-domain-deterrence-yeaw

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Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
https://www.slideshare.net/LivermoreLab/yeaw-llnl-multi-domain-deterrence-yeaw
21st Century Air Force Nuclear Deterrence and Escalation
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[25-May-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
>don't be penetrated

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[25-May-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Guys, new strategy: don't die"

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[25-May-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/499400-judge-rules-florida-cant-block-felons-from-registering-to-vote

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Judge rules Florida can't block felons from registering to vote bec...
A federal judge in Florida ruled Sunday that the state's law restricting felons from voting if they have unpaid court fees or other fines was unconstitutional.
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[25-May-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
back and forth and back and forth


[25-May-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-May-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-May-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[25-May-20 04:20 AM] jlun2#8758
does anyone want to be leftist stonetoss


[25-May-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burgers?


[25-May-20 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yo


[25-May-20 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I got an important question


[25-May-20 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is Flintstones tech anprim?


[25-May-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Flintstones tech tries to be as advanced as it can be.


[25-May-20 05:00 AM] ononim#8141
Flintstones is stealthy biopunk


[25-May-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
A society ruined by its reliance on convenient dinosaurs.


[25-May-20 05:18 AM] ononim#8141
||imagine the fleshlights and dildos||


[25-May-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's already horrific when you consider their record players.


[25-May-20 05:40 AM] Crow#5457
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[25-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[25-May-20 06:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"if we put up a sign, surely they'll listen to us"

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[25-May-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
@StarlightSword4444 you react a lot and talk not a lot :V


[25-May-20 06:49 AM] StarlightSword4444#4854
Yeah, I'm just not all that chatty usually.


[25-May-20 09:22 AM] Opponent#3498
what on earth is that USAF stuff


[25-May-20 09:23 AM] byte[]#2610
big brain time


[25-May-20 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
I wanna know the difference between "don't be hit" and "don't be penetrated"


[25-May-20 09:30 AM] Opponent#3498
well if that was a tank, not every hit results in defeating the armor


[25-May-20 09:30 AM] Opponent#3498
for a plane though...


[25-May-20 09:30 AM] Opponent#3498
heli's also... kind of armored? Against rifle rounds if nothing else.


[25-May-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
AT rifles can penetrate attack heli armor


[25-May-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, of course. But I imagine that would be what the people trying to formulate the doctrine thought.


[25-May-20 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
I meant AMRs, but AT rifles can too


[25-May-20 09:37 AM] Crow#5457
(anti-material rifle)


[25-May-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
don't push that dual 14.5mm AA position with your face.


[25-May-20 09:38 AM] Opponent#3498
these graphs are used as... very useless visual aides, with someone giving a lecture on what each part means.


[25-May-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel it's an evolution of ~WW2 era stuff, where the materials needed to be as simplified as possible for any country bumpkin to understand.


[25-May-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
during the last N years this method... devolved, losing any and all context. And most of it's purpose.


[25-May-20 09:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it makes sense to make commandments as simple as possible to easily be able to recall under fire. But this really isn't it.


[25-May-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
also 'dont get killed' doesn't sound so stupid in the context of vehicles. If hit and penetrated, disengage, it's most likely not worth your vehicle or your life.


[25-May-20 01:37 PM] illumnious#7938
'I'm looking for the truth': States face criticism for COVID-19 data cover-ups https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/i-m-looking-truth-states-face-criticism-covid-19-data-n1202086

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'I'm looking for the truth': States face criticism for COVID-19 dat...
The public must be given complete and accurate information about the coronavirus pandemic, experts said.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_21/3321896/200423-coronavirus-testing-florida-ew-809p_73e119d5ee97bbe412c781be3cb065dd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[25-May-20 01:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
> what on earth is that USAF stuff
@Opponent 

Something about nuclear escalation but I believe it was made for the president so it was thrown together as insane as possible to hold his attention. 90% of all context probably came from the presentation itself but it looks like a product of supercocaine outside of it


[25-May-20 02:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Afuckinggain https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1264893630612897792?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1264893630612897792?s=21
TRANSITION TO GREATNESS! Get ready, it is already happening again!
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[25-May-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/WytlFWF

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Re-opening
https://i.imgur.com/JXqnli0h.jpg


[25-May-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
I bet the doctors are doing this


[25-May-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
never trusted those freaks


[25-May-20 02:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They actually declare "cause of death: pneumonia"


[25-May-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Y9a64Uz.jpg

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[25-May-20 02:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Technically correct. The best kind of correct. - 🇺🇸


[25-May-20 02:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They still care about lying about the numbers but only if it is China doing it.


[25-May-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://preview.redd.it/en0yqbjz0r051.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=51b3fc486cc50f1efce74bed35d1ba95587b81c3

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[25-May-20 03:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems deleted


[25-May-20 03:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Yep he’s sick

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[25-May-20 03:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend because of this tweet https://twitter.com/radiofreetom/status/1264867488883527681?s=21

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https://twitter.com/radiofreetom/status/1264867488883527681?s=21
Donald Trump - a vain, cowardly, lying, vulgar, jabbering blowhard - is not a real "man" your father and grandfather would have respected. Nor should any man, but as I write in @TheAtlantic: especially not the ones who claim to support him the most.
https://t.co/xRdplS9czc
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[25-May-20 03:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This guy can't go one week without pissing off his neighbours.
https://youtu.be/c5JnPfRexDU

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Double Down News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5JnPfRexDU
Public Mood - Dominic Cummings Heckled by His Own Neighbours
Join the Future of Journalism: http://www.patreon.com/doubledownnews

Support DDN: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=TLXUE9P9GA9ZC&source=url
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[25-May-20 03:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
In observance of memorial day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgrv78IvGD4

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Renegade Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgrv78IvGD4
Rambo - Hollywood Vietnam | Renegade Cut
The Rambo trilogy in the 1980's rewrote the history of the 60's and 70's for American audiences. Support Renegade Cut Media through Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/renegadecut

#rambo 

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Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/leonthomas/
Pat...
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[25-May-20 05:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did a twitter search for "bill gates" on a lark and now I want to kill myself super hard


[25-May-20 05:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
80% at least of posts are about how he wants to control/mutate/kill everyone with "vaccines" and/or started the virus in the first place


[25-May-20 05:44 PM] ononim#8141
>Did a twitter search for "bill gates"


[25-May-20 05:44 PM] ononim#8141
why do you hate yourself


[25-May-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I needed to know how bad it was


[25-May-20 05:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was bad


[25-May-20 05:47 PM] illumnious#7938
> Did a twitter search for "bill gates" on a lark and now I want to kill myself super hard
@Teaspoon  same


[25-May-20 05:48 PM] illumnious#7938
No really https://twitter.com/bobross20066990/status/1264757500538007555?s=21

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Pro-logic (@BobRoss20066990)
https://twitter.com/bobross20066990/status/1264757500538007555?s=21
#BillGates makes these guys look good
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[25-May-20 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1264707779471818757?s=20

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Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip)
https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1264707779471818757?s=20
Breaking: The RNC has filed suit against California to stop Gov. Gavin Newsom from mailing ballots to all registered voters ahead of the November general election. Lawsuit comes after Newsom announced the changes in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

https://t.co/3Im53W1X...
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[25-May-20 07:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/1_Complaint_1590362477.pdf


[25-May-20 08:12 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-court-backs-california-gov-gavin-newsoms-orders/story?id=70856597

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Federal court backs California Gov. Gavin Newsom's orders keeping c...
The governor's stay-at-home orders were issued on March 19.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/gavin-newsom-ap-jef-200524_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[25-May-20 09:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/-mSyZGy8LX8

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The Telegraph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mSyZGy8LX8
Watch again: Dominic Cummings makes rare statement as calls for his...
Dominic Cummings has sought to defend his decision to drive to County Durham despite the coronavirus lockdown restrictions, saying he believes he behaved "reasonably" and does not regret his actions.

In a highly unusual press conference in the rose garden of 10 Downing Street...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-mSyZGy8LX8/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-May-20 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Accused visiting family. Says it's not true and media is lying. Makes things worse by telling a story in which he breaks the rules 3 or 4 times and admits to driving while impaired.

:wheeze: 🇬🇧


[25-May-20 09:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Still no charges, fines or repercussions for him though.


[25-May-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
```80% at least of posts are about how he wants to control/mutate/kill everyone with "vaccines" and/or started the virus in the first place```


[25-May-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
YES, MUTATE EVERYONE, MAKE THE FURRY DREAM COME TRUE


[25-May-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
(or make WH40k fans dream come true...)


[25-May-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
(either is fine tbh)


[25-May-20 09:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/gqco1h/dominic_cummings_statement_thread/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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r/unitedkingdom - Dominic Cummings Statement Thread
646 votes and 1,113 comments so far on Reddit
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[25-May-20 09:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Here is a readable breakdown of the video with time stamps


[25-May-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-May-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
this is why I frequent this channel.


[25-May-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
shit you can't make up; life more hillarious than any fiction.


[25-May-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
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🤖 🍜 🏙️ bigbrain 💸 

[25-May-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
More like: I have 7 PhDs and 40 years of experience. Please let this be enough for an entry level position.


[25-May-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
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[25-May-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-May-20 10:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://newsthump.com/2020/05/25/specsavers-to-introduce-new-can-you-drive-to-the-nearest-castle-eye-test/

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Rich Smith
https://newsthump.com/2020/05/25/specsavers-to-introduce-new-can-you-drive-to-the-nearest-castle-eye-test/
Specsavers to introduce new 'can you drive to the nearest castle' e...
Specsavers has introduced a new eye test for customers worried about their eyesight, after admitting the best way to check your vision is to drive 60 miles to look at a castle.
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🇬🇧 wheeze wat 

[25-May-20 11:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4tfbjT8DA

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5secondfilms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4tfbjT8DA
Trump Golfs
This hole is a 9-par, which sounds easy until you see all the cross traps. Good luck putting your way out of this one - though if your mental game is strong, you won’t even think about the massive bodycount for one solitary second.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pA4tfbjT8DA/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-May-20 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-May-20 11:26 PM] jlun2#8758
I need to disagree with everyone so they become russian (bot) artists then


[25-May-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/theevocater/status/1264958491065831426

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jake (@theevocater)
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not to put too fine a point on it but remote work won't empower workers; its how tech is going to break labor
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[25-May-20 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Can't unionize if you are not in the same room as your fellow workers. :sombralick:


[25-May-20 11:44 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:sosmol:


[25-May-20 11:45 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought people in freedomland are allergic to unions anyways


[25-May-20 11:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remote work is how companies end up expecting workers to stay connected 16h a day and pay them less because "well, you don't need to commute and you can work in the best office in the world, your home!"


[26-May-20 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
bitch I want to steal from the office vending machine that's what I want

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[26-May-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
```I thought people in freedomland are allergic to unions anyways```


[26-May-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure everyone in this chat who's advocating for unions isn't from US :D


[26-May-20 12:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm from the US


[26-May-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
So am I


[26-May-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Hell, I am in a union


[26-May-20 12:27 AM] jlun2#8758
Endangered species right there then


[26-May-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
ARMED UNIONS SHOOTING EXXON SHOULD BE THE NORM.


[26-May-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
_looks angrily towards the local Walmart._


[26-May-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm in the us and am in full support of unions


[26-May-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Support of them are about 50% despite under 10% of jobs being union jobs


[26-May-20 01:56 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4tfbjT8DA
@Teaspoon accurate my nigga

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5secondfilms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4tfbjT8DA
Trump Golfs
This hole is a 9-par, which sounds easy until you see all the cross traps. Good luck putting your way out of this one - though if your mental game is strong, you won’t even think about the massive bodycount for one solitary second.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pA4tfbjT8DA/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-May-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_IkQPkGU8

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Vocal Synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_IkQPkGU8
Louis Farrakhan reads "The Chanukah Song" by Adam Sandler (Speech S...
Join the subreddit associated with this channel at https://reddit.com/r/VocalSynthesis

The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Louis Farrakhan. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wR_IkQPkGU8/maxresdefault.jpg


[26-May-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most cursed thing you will hear all day


[26-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't sound quite right, so doesn't work.


[26-May-20 03:58 AM] jimm#1439
exxon-walt disney is a knee slapper


[26-May-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges don't manage judges below them, so no.


[26-May-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you're in the wrong channel.


[26-May-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-May-20 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Where is Bush?


[26-May-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-May-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-minister-says-its-a-great-time-to-build-a-pipeline-because/

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Alberta minister says it’s a ‘great time’ to build a pipeline becau...
Sonya Savage made the comment Friday in a podcast hosted by the Canadian Association of Oilwell Drilling Contractors
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[26-May-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> “Now is a great time to be building a pipeline because you can’t have protests of more than 15 people,” Ms. Savage said. “Let’s get it built.”


[26-May-20 04:29 AM] ononim#8141
Is it the one there they wanting to lay it through native land


[26-May-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-May-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>  through native land
I mean, technically that'd be anywhere in north america


[26-May-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But yes


[26-May-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God


[26-May-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could you imagine a country where there was a civil war


[26-May-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And one side was basically murdering babies for fun


[26-May-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And after the war was over everyone was expected to respect that side?


[26-May-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, respect the traitorous baby killer side?


[26-May-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because... I don't even know the fucking reason really


[26-May-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
for @jlun2 https://i.redd.it/rt83q0uywy051.png

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[26-May-20 04:45 AM] jlun2#8758
they never communicated with each other and still somehow converge to something similar
||meanwhile everytime I try to be like others I get rejected irl||


[26-May-20 04:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-May-20 04:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Closed to a hundred thousand


[26-May-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
It happens tonight


[26-May-20 02:57 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1264996588834996226

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[26-May-20 03:00 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the same as 'troops' in military tbh.


[26-May-20 03:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm fairly certain all governments internally refer to 'them' like this. This guy is simply telling you like it is.


[26-May-20 03:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Conservative be like this all over the world.
They are like robots.
"behaved like a human being" "very human" "a human man" This is how conservatives in the UK described Dominic Cummings just yesterday.

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[26-May-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
I dunno about that, knowing what I know about pre-WW2 USSR, for instance. Conservativism has little to do with it.


[26-May-20 03:06 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Authoritarian leaning then.


[26-May-20 03:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[26-May-20 03:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[26-May-20 03:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[26-May-20 03:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trip Adviser blocked reviews from being submitted and deleted the jokes. They forgot to do the same for the FAQs.

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[26-May-20 03:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[26-May-20 04:07 PM] illumnious#7938
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'I hit the trifecta': She was battling cancer. Then came coronaviru...
In the age of COVID-19, cancer hospitals like Memorial Sloan Kettering have been forced to reimagine how to care for patients like 27-year-old Eliza Paris.
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[26-May-20 04:14 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend

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[26-May-20 04:14 PM] illumnious#7938
My damm favorite


[26-May-20 04:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trump_detester/status/1264987751239290881?s=21 I hope he rots in fucking hell when he die

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cαηα∂α нαтεs тя☭мρ (@Trump_Detester)
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I hope he rots in held.

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[26-May-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-police-fatal-arrest-officer-kneeling-neck-man-died/

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Video shows Minneapolis cop with knee on neck of motionless, moanin...
The video shows with the man groaning and saying repeatedly, "I can't breathe."
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[26-May-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
They murdered him


[26-May-20 05:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-disapproval-climbs-coronavirus-deaths-near-100000-1506426

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Disapproval of Donald Trump climbs higher as coronavirus death toll...
A presidential approval rating tracker put Trump's average disapproval rating at more than 53 percent on Monday.
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[26-May-20 05:20 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-police-fatal-arrest-officer-kneeling-neck-man-died/
@byte[]  saw that on Instagram

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The video shows with the man groaning and saying repeatedly, "I can't breathe."
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[26-May-20 05:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-May-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
it's dem hoax anyway, so


[26-May-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
0.2% mortality


[26-May-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
like a milder flu


[26-May-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Soon™️ if they don’t stop their shit

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[26-May-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
no it's definitely reaching 100k


[26-May-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
no matter what at this point.


[26-May-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
the question now is if it's reaching 150 or 200.


[26-May-20 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[26-May-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it's in the name.


[26-May-20 07:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
If it hits 200,000 we'll be in clown timeline. But I really do be expecting it to hit that much.


[26-May-20 07:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
Esspecially if states open back up.


[26-May-20 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because now it feels like even people who know they should stay home are becoming restless and want to go out.


[26-May-20 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hell even I want to go out to pick up ice cream but I also tend to abort mission if there is a lot of people hanging around.


[26-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck

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[26-May-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
5% death rate?


[26-May-20 07:18 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/husband-deceased-staffer-joe-scarborough-125814509.html

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[26-May-20 07:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's still at it, jesus


[26-May-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this feels like something trump is going to triple down on as the year progresses :hopeless:


[26-May-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it grabs headlines, makes a news host a political target and likely distracts his followers further from his virus fuckups as they start harrassing joe scarborough


[26-May-20 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up "Barr announces investigation into Joe Scarborough"


[26-May-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kudlow-trump-unemployment-back-to-work-bonus-workers-coronavirus-economy-2020-5

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A top Trump economic adviser says the White House is considering of...
Larry Kudlow said the Trump administration is weighing offering unemployed people a cash bonus for returning to work.
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[26-May-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta hang a carrot for that human capital stock


[26-May-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[26-May-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-it-encourages-division-top-executives-nixed-solutions-11590507499

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Facebook Executives Shut Down Efforts to Make the Site Less Divisive
The social-media giant internally studied how it polarizes users and how it might address the resulting harms, then largely shelved the research.
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[26-May-20 09:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.fool.com/taxes/2020/05/23/your-next-stimulus-check-could-have-big-strings-at.aspx

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Your Next "Stimulus Check" Could Have Big Strings Attached @themotl...
Forget about free money -- you might have to do more to earn any future aid from the federal government.
https://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/575473/tax-refund-check-getty.jpg


[26-May-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

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The Prophecies of Q
American conspiracy theories are entering a dangerous new phase.
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[26-May-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
QAnon is transitioning to a religion


[26-May-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
built on conspiracy theories


[26-May-20 09:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Cummings isn't the only one that thinks going for a drive in your car is a good way to test your eye sight to see if you are safe to drive a car.
https://youtu.be/v7JO-mcIrH8

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Michael Gove says he has driven 'on occasion' to test his eyesight ...
Michael Gove told LBC he had driven to check his eyesight, but he was "not an authority of driving" as it had taken him seven times to pass his test.

When Nick Ferrari put it to Cabinet Minister Michael Gove that Dominic Cumming's Land Rover would not have the petrol capacity...
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[26-May-20 09:59 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If you see any conservatives on the road steer clear.
They may be doing an eye test.


[26-May-20 10:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2020/05/25/chinese-researcher-warns-coronavirus-is-just-tip-of-iceberg/

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China’s ‘bat woman’ researcher warns coronavirus is just ‘tip of ic...
China’s “bat woman” researcher warns that the deadly coronavirus surfacing now is “just the tip of the iceberg” in terms of what humans may soon face without a global …
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[26-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.fool.com/taxes/2020/05/23/your-next-stimulus-check-could-have-big-strings-at.aspx
@Sunnyside  pfffffff

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Your Next "Stimulus Check" Could Have Big Strings Attached @themotl...
Forget about free money -- you might have to do more to earn any future aid from the federal government.
https://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/575473/tax-refund-check-getty.jpg


[26-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
an incalculable loss

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[26-May-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That $4k thing is insulting, honestly.


[26-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It only applies to people who lost their jobs as a result of the pandemic. Okay, what if the way to show this is a huge hurdle that pretty much only applies when a business got aid related to the pandemic?


[26-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, you're not gonna do anything to the people who had no job previously? You can't just leave people out like this and expect things to improve.


[26-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It will only worsen the generational divide because all you're doing is repairing what newly broke instead of realizing THE FUKKING ENTIRE BUILDING IS CRUMBLING


[26-May-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what is this training? Cause if it's employer-managed shit then I can guarantee you that this will not help people most in need. It will help people who were already well-off and the employer will probably demand part of that $4k.


[26-May-20 11:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> “I feel God led me to Q. I really feel like God pushed me in this direction.”
@Crow now when will those "christian" churches rebrand themselves as "Church of Qanon " to attract followers

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[26-May-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
In random bullshit the President just made up we trust.

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[26-May-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
an incalculable cawss


[26-May-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:♾️

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[27-May-20 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suspicious looking speaker here

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[27-May-20 12:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Hahaha https://youtu.be/DRd23RZf1OY

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SHOCK: Fox News Poll Most Devastating to Trump Yet
--A devastating new Fox News poll has Donald Trump 8 points behind Joe Biden nationally, and losing badly within some key groups
🔊 Want to read 5 books in one sitting? Try Blinkist for FREE at http://www.blinkist.com/pakman

This fall is looking worse and worse for Republicans...
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[27-May-20 12:54 AM] illumnious#7938
FOX(of all people who cannot stand Democrats) finally woke


[27-May-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
I just spent like 30 minutes trying to find any concrete evidence of antifa ever causing property damage


[27-May-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
but the only thing I ever found were claims that one of their "tactics" is damaging property


[27-May-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
just repeated over and over again


[27-May-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lori-klausutis-widower-get-to-the-bottom-her-death-2020-5

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Trump says the grieving widower who demanded his conspiracy theory ...
Facing questions on the pandemic that's killed almost 100,000 Americans, Trump doubled down on a conspiracy theory a grieving spouse called "horrifying."
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[27-May-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
triple down


[27-May-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-deadlier-in-democratic-counties-analysis-2020-5

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The coronavirus pandemic is deadlier in counties where Democrats live
Although 45% of Americans live in the counties President Donald Trump won in 2016, they've seen 27% of coronavirus infections and 21% of the deaths.
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[27-May-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gee, i wonder if that has to do with population density???


[27-May-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/499649-trump-accuses-twitter-of-violating-free-speech-after-fact-check

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Trump accuses Twitter of 'stifling' free speech after fact-check
President Trump on Tuesday evening accused Twitter of “stifling FREE SPEECH” and interfering in the 2020 election by fact-checking one of his tweets on the issue of voting by mail.
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[27-May-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>People think you have any free speech rights on Twitter


[27-May-20 02:15 AM] illumnious#7938
finally


[27-May-20 02:15 AM] illumnious#7938
for fuck's sake


[27-May-20 02:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1265427539008380928?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1265427539008380928?s=21
....Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
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[27-May-20 02:17 AM] illumnious#7938
he's bitching


[27-May-20 02:17 AM] illumnious#7938
guys


[27-May-20 02:17 AM] illumnious#7938
but fuck him


[27-May-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
twitter is not the government


[27-May-20 02:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Rrrrrreeeeeeeeeee" - 🍊


[27-May-20 02:18 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[27-May-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
Skreeeeeee!

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Skree!


[27-May-20 02:23 AM] Crow#5457
Skree!

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[27-May-20 02:23 AM] illumnious#7938
eeeeeeeee


[27-May-20 02:23 AM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[27-May-20 02:25 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Nah, clearly being socially progressive angers sky daddy


[27-May-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://couriernewsroom.com/2020/05/26/11-local-tv-stations-that-pushed-amazon-scripted-segment/amp/

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WATCH: 11 Local TV Stations Pushed the Same Amazon-Scripted Segment
The package was produced by Amazon spokesperson Todd Walker.
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[27-May-20 02:29 AM] illumnious#7938
well shit


[27-May-20 02:33 AM] jlun2#8758
This channel is brought to you by Amazon. <Insert whatever their motto is here>


[27-May-20 02:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Gotta keep that sweet advertising money rolling in.


[27-May-20 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[27-May-20 02:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/twitter-has-not-stifled-the-presidents-free-speech-trump-fact-checked-after-latest-conspiracy-theory

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‘Twitter has not stifled the president’s free speech’: Trump fact-c...
President Donald Trump reacted angrily on Tuesday after Twitter appended a fact-check to his conspiracy theories about voting by mail. “Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election,” Trump tweeted. “They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will le...
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[27-May-20 02:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I work at Amazon


[27-May-20 02:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
can confirm that they don't give a shit about us


[27-May-20 02:36 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Most of their adjustments are laughable at best and insulting at worse


[27-May-20 02:37 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
they're punishing employees for not following social distancing meanwhile packing people into tiny spaces in stations


[27-May-20 02:37 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
they're cutting the """""""Hero Pay"""""""by the end of the month


[27-May-20 02:37 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
forcing us to use our hours if we're sick for any reason and send us home


[27-May-20 02:38 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
but if we're out of hours? Well fuck you your ass is fired

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[27-May-20 02:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/trumps-transition-to-greatness-2020-slogan-is-like-a-surrender-gop-campaign-vet

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Trump’s ‘transition to greatness’ 2020 slogan is ‘like a surrender’...
On Tuesday, former Republican strategist and anti-Trump conservative Steve Schmidt dissected the Trump campaign’s “transition to greatness” slogan — and what it reveals about his presidency. “Transition to Greatness”. I think not. Trump’s new slogan signals big problems in the...
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[27-May-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

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[27-May-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
tHiS iS eXtReMeLy DaNgErOuS tO oUr DeMoCrAcY


[27-May-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/us/politics/trump-rnc-north-carolina.html

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Trump Threatens to Pull Republican National Convention From North C...
The president, who has wondered aloud to aides why the convention can’t be held in Florida, said North Carolina’s governor needed to “guarantee” that the event could be held in August.
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[27-May-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
apparently trump wants to move the RNC from north carolina to florida, likely to mar-a-lago


[27-May-20 03:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/499653-doj-says-letter-carrier-charged-with-attempted-election-fraud

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DOJ says letter carrier charged with attempted election fraud
Federal prosecutors on Tuesday said a West Virginia letter carrier committed attempted election fraud by altering party affiliations from Democratic to Republican on requests for absentee ballots.
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[27-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/CBLDF/status/1265389225744060416

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President Trump's campaign issued a complaint causing the removal of Nick Anderson's political cartoon from @redbubble. Today, we're leading a coalition calling on Redbubble to affirm its commitment to the First Amendment and reinstate Mr. Anderson's work. https://t.co/g3DXeN...
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[27-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, Trump doesn't want free speech.


[27-May-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wants his speech boosted and others' destroyed.


[27-May-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, @Kiryu-Chan, something to note in that is the conservative approach.


[27-May-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shifting the blame from the business and the conditions it creates to the individuals who are left without a choice.


[27-May-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The grand conservative idea really is to 1) allow people thru deregulation to create bad conditions that remove people's choices and 2) blame the people whose choices were removed, be they consumers or employees, instead of the businesses and gov't actions that forced them into things.


[27-May-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now is not the time for sniffing, that comes later

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[27-May-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fondling only.


[27-May-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using his 2m arms.


[27-May-20 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Itsthinking You say you were raised in the Democratic party, but Jack: lemme tell you about Corn Flake. He was the meanest man in New Hampshire. I used to work at a pool in the ghetto, Jack. Believe you me: I was. I wanted to know how the other side lived. I did. So I worked at the pool. When my legs got wet the hairs would turn white and all the black kids would come up and stroke them and call me whitey. Anyways Corn Pop was a mean man lemme tell you. He'd come in snappin' his fingers and me and him Jack, believe me Jack we would get into it at the bowling alley. And we'd look at each other in the eye you know. And I be looking at America today Jack and I see all these people dying under Trump and DEAD, DEAD! They're all dead! Dead, dead, dead!

Anyways I was born in the Democratic Party Jack. Molded by it. Raised it. You merely took the Democratic Party for yourself. But I was molded by Apple Pop's, Mack. We played the cup game with the pee and a switch balde at the carnival Jack. And that's what I see now. You can't beat me. I took Corn Pop in as part of me.


[27-May-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Read it all in his voice.


[27-May-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too coherent.


[27-May-20 05:16 AM] Honahue#0656
the only silver lining to Biden presidency would be his senile rambling


[27-May-20 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
As Felix Beiderman comments in the last Chapo episode, if stupid is what becomes real now then stupid is what we'll get. And Biden being the next level of stupid and funny as shit then people will probably just fucking vote for the funniest guy on the ballot. Like Trump isndumb but he knows what he's saying and has comedic timing by virtue of being an old school New York asshole in a very public setting


[27-May-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly, he was always kind of like this.


[27-May-20 05:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Where as Biden is just sorta weird and senile. He talks himself into a blind alley without realizing it


[27-May-20 05:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
But his escapes make it worth it. Like he finds himself in a position he must commit


[27-May-20 05:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
And doesn't like, apologise. He goes on until he starts screaming, "DEATH! DEATH!" or forces a forced metaphor further


[27-May-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think people are confusing senility with someone who isn't just very smart


[27-May-20 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
"You see Mack, 2016- 2016 was different. It was different conditions then, you see. We got- we got the guy who knew it was a carnival and how to rig the games Mack. He was playing, playing the uh- playing the pea in the cup game. And we went back and back, Mack. You understand man. And like- like- we gotta learn to stop playing. He's got the pee in the cup "


[27-May-20 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is like if Forrest Gump ran for president.


[27-May-20 05:28 AM] Honahue#0656
you need only start a text with "Look here Jack" then let autofill create the rest


[27-May-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Look here Jack and I will be there at least 😁


[27-May-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
Look here Jack, I love you too baby and I love you and your future husband and my beautiful family


[27-May-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the thing that killed Biden's 1988 presidential run was accusations of plagiarism


[27-May-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could you even imagine that today


[27-May-20 05:47 AM] jlun2#8758
That'll be a badge of honor


[27-May-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wouldn't even be covered for more than two hours or so


[27-May-20 06:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-May-20 06:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well, at least our protestors are wearing masks


[27-May-20 06:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't even like the PRC but for meme I hope they take away all the savings and deposits made by out of HK drug cartel bosses and we can count just how much Hong Kong'd GPD was made up of illicite transactions.


[27-May-20 06:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which I think is the same with Singapore. They will fucking murder you over a joint but happily take your money. A lot of Burmese heroin kings put their money in Hong Kong and Singapore as I've been lead to believe


[27-May-20 07:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang for some reason I thought you were mainlander


[27-May-20 07:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What


[27-May-20 07:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I am a mainlander yes


[27-May-20 07:13 AM] jlun2#8758
:roseconfused: 
nvm sorry


[27-May-20 07:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Konger's English won't be this broken as mine


[27-May-20 08:06 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-May-20 08:10 AM] Crow#5457
> heir to an inflatable bounce house fortune


[27-May-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
.p bounce house


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[27-May-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[27-May-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
.c bounce house


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[27-May-20 08:12 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[27-May-20 08:12 AM] byte[]#2610
:peetzer:


[27-May-20 08:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
.c bouncy castle


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[27-May-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
>>1601566


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[27-May-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just don't call it a moon walk


[27-May-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
``` Reminder that the thing that killed Biden's 1988 presidential run was accusations of plagiarism
Could you even imagine that today```


[27-May-20 09:43 AM] Opponent#3498
wow. Unironically, times _have_ changed.


[27-May-20 12:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-May-20 12:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So how much is Trump's newest prediction of the total death


[27-May-20 12:53 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or maybe he got cleverer that doesn't make a prediction?


[27-May-20 01:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/redexxy/status/1265500257758126080?s=21

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YOOOOOO Minneapolis going crazyy #AllLivesMatter #GeorgeFloyd #BlackLivesMatter  RIP George Floyd he didn't deserve that shit. https://t.co/5mvbW6owQl
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[27-May-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-threatens-shut-down-platforms-after-tweets-tagged-warning-2020-5

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Trump threatens to shut down social media platforms after Twitter p...
"We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen," Trump tweeted early Wednesday.
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[27-May-20 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuuuuuuck


[27-May-20 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuuuck


[27-May-20 03:36 PM] illumnious#7938
This asshole always at his shit


[27-May-20 03:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter should just ban him


[27-May-20 03:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Thank you


[27-May-20 03:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he weren't the president he'd have likely been banned 10 times over by now :hopeless:


[27-May-20 04:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
And now since he'll be an ex-president after this he likely will never be banned.


[27-May-20 04:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which come to think have any major celebs ever been banned from Twitter before or does Jack Dorsey keep them around in his collection for site legitimacy?


[27-May-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think a few but i dont really remember any specific names


[27-May-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
does alex jones count?


[27-May-20 04:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Maybe


[27-May-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Milo Yiannopolis


[27-May-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions

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Twitter suspensions
Twitter may suspend accounts, temporarily or permanently, from their social networking service. Suspensions of high-profile individuals from Twitter are unusual; they often attract media attention when they occur.


[27-May-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here;s a list of notable twitter suspensions


[27-May-20 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/twitter-suspends-man-for-hoping-star-wars-character-dies-painfully-1.4707645

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Twitter suspends man for hoping Star Wars character 'dies painfully'
A Toronto-based podcaster is criticizing Twitter after he jokingly tweeted that he hopes a fictional character dubbed Baby Yoda 'dies painfully' and was flagged by the platform for harassment.
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[27-May-20 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I hope all disney execs die painfully


[27-May-20 04:32 PM] byte[]#2610
:^)


[27-May-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

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Japan ends coronavirus emergency with 850 deaths and no lockdown
"In just over a month and a half, we almost brought (the infection) situation under control," Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said.
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[27-May-20 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Japan's had a culture of wearing masks and such for quite a while


[27-May-20 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I am surprised they had so few cases considering their metro system and general population density


[27-May-20 04:51 PM] Opponent#3498
they quietly die for the line and national prestige, and US people complain!


[27-May-20 04:51 PM] Opponent#3498
!shame


[27-May-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I think what the world has learned from COVID debacle is, the primary thing that matters is the reporting methods you're using.


[27-May-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
US picked the wrong ones. Their numbers look bad.


[27-May-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
so did Russia, with doctors flying out the windows on schedule, and China, with randomly doubling the numbers on demand just to be cheeky


[27-May-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Japan chose the correct reporting methods. In a nation with massive aging polulation and gigantic crowds and overpopulation they have '850 deaths and no lockdown'.


[27-May-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and the percentage of aging population decreased significantly, which is also an economic bonus.


[27-May-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
after all, no japanese can afford to die of CHINESE VIRUS without staining his honor.


[27-May-20 05:11 PM] nateumstead#8296
Anyone noticed that political trending on Twitter?


[27-May-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
make whites great again?


[27-May-20 05:11 PM] nateumstead#8296
Yeah


[27-May-20 05:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
About time


[27-May-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, it;s about a hat and some guy who's wearing it looking somewhat like the cop who killed George Floyd via knee suffocation


[27-May-20 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
my twitter trends are always different from everyone else's


[27-May-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh, 14th


[27-May-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
here's a hot take re:Japan


[27-May-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
don't you guys think that would be a perfect example for your orange-in-charge to latch onto, for the purposes of 'no lockdown no way'? I haven't seen anyone use Japan as an argument for that.


[27-May-20 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
unless, yeah, their success begins and ends in the official reports.


[27-May-20 05:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We won't know how much they've been fudging the numbers until we get month to month mortality numbers


[27-May-20 05:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
why is twitter wanting me to follow Huawei


[27-May-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Did they look at my trend of exclusively liking and retweeting Trixie images and think "Hrm, yes, he's probably a fan of chinese communication tech companies"?


[27-May-20 05:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What trixie has to do with China?


[27-May-20 05:27 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe Huawei has a new mascot. A cerulean street performer equine with mystical powers that's is legally distinct and in no way, shape or form is infringing on Hasbro property?


[27-May-20 05:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-May-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dumb enough to be real


[27-May-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
why is it that the US flag design is so trash


[27-May-20 05:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Trash post needs trash pic.


[27-May-20 05:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most flag designs are trash


[27-May-20 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Flag for my "state" in spain has very exact requirements for the four severed heads on its shield
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[27-May-20 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Origonal design


[27-May-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Once again https://youtu.be/nJ-bIeJ4zOY

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[27-May-20 06:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] god that sounds like something a Balkan nationalist would say, not an American


[27-May-20 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@ byte actually it's not so bad.


[27-May-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesnt destroy the eyeballs like, say, _Ukraininan_ flag does.


[27-May-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh cool, he’s at his shit again

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[27-May-20 07:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Japan's had a culture of wearing masks and such for quite a while
@Teaspoon 

Well more than that. They also bow a lot and don't shake hands. And the mask thing too is just a response to previous waves of Asian pandemics. So they are much more aware of the environment they are in, as well as of how bad urban pollution is which means wearing a mask is a good idea in cities just for personal comfort.

But a lot of people in Japan are still criticizing Shinzo Abe for his handling of the situation. And there's a lot of caution that the COVID they got there is not the same COVID we got here, that it mutated at some point


[27-May-20 07:09 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh wow trump

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[27-May-20 07:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
> don't you guys think that would be a perfect example for your orange-in-charge to latch onto, for the purposes of 'no lockdown no way'? I haven't seen anyone use Japan as an argument for that.
@Opponent 

Here's the thing though: Japan actually has a highly functioning health care system. We do not. They are ready for this sort of thing where as ours would die instantly.


[27-May-20 07:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By this point i'm convinced that American conservatism is nothing more than nonstop schizoposting


[27-May-20 07:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
> We won't know how much they've been fudging the numbers until we get month to month mortality numbers
@Teaspoon 

The argument against the idea they are fudging the numbers is that COVID usually gets written up as pneumonia. And there hasn't been a spike in that unlike in Russia or Brazil. For the most part it just seems they got lucky.


[27-May-20 07:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
jfc, just ban Trump already


[27-May-20 07:12 PM] illumnious#7938
For gods sake please


[27-May-20 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's cute; if you report a tweet Twitter automatically removes it from your view regardless of you choosing to not block/mute the account


[27-May-20 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyway, this is litereally libel
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265624335898869760

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Psycho Joe Scarborough is rattled, not only by his bad ratings but all of the things and facts that are coming out on the internet about opening a Cold Case. He knows what is happening!
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[27-May-20 07:22 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
>Trump meltdown


[27-May-20 07:22 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I feel like we go through this every week


[27-May-20 07:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's Trump's version of Two Minutes' Hate from Orwell, in a way


[27-May-20 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if anyone has tried to sue Trump for libel


[27-May-20 07:29 PM] jlun2#8758
> By this point i'm convinced that American conservatism is nothing more than nonstop schizoposting
Same. Reading them made me lose braincells and several weeks of intrusive thoughts. Not worth it.


[27-May-20 07:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Joe Scarborough can certainly make a good case for it


[27-May-20 08:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1265706645134274561?s=21

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WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE OF AMERICANS IS WRONG!
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[27-May-20 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
so... you support the HB and SBs which block the FBI from performing warrantless surveillance?

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[27-May-20 08:19 PM] jlun2#8758
Easy. Democrats are no longer legally Americans. No contradiction there.

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[27-May-20 08:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/kathy-griffin-trump-syringe-air-coronavirus-a9533966.html

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Kathy Griffin sparks anger for saying Trump should be given 'syring...
Comedian attacked president on Twitter
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[27-May-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
> Following the announcement of a new plan to slash the price of insulin for diabetic seniors, Trump told reporters at the Rose Garden: “I don’t use insulin. Should I be?”

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[27-May-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Massive brain moment


[27-May-20 08:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Of course


[27-May-20 08:54 PM] illumnious#7938

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[27-May-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How the fuck has his obese ass not dropped dead from a heart attack yet


[27-May-20 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The worst people live the longest


[27-May-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear, he's the luckiest fucking president in recent history


[27-May-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
so be evil to live to 100


[27-May-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it's true though.


[27-May-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
when you're 'good' you worry and emphasise and so on so forth


[27-May-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
when you're evil you thrive on misery of others and that's trivial to come by.


[27-May-20 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the logic of capitalism baby


[27-May-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he replaced his heart with a twitter bot about 2 years AGO, it was a secret highly experimental surgery


[27-May-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now he lives off the rage and adoration of twitter for his source of sustenance and it keeps his blood flowing as long as people react to his tweets


[27-May-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
so mlp sirens irl


[27-May-20 09:34 PM] RYDE#8862
Where's sunset Shimmer when we needed her?


[27-May-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stuck in a time loop at a music festival


[27-May-20 09:36 PM] RYDE#8862
Is that true?


[27-May-20 09:37 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 much less cute too. The sirens at least had things going for them.


[27-May-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also eventually redeemed themselves albeit very minorly in a special. pretty sure Trump can;t be redeemed ever


[27-May-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aymrnzianf0

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[27-May-20 09:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Under 1 hr to launch'


[27-May-20 09:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yeah


[27-May-20 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unsurprisingly, Twitter told me Trump is not actually breaking any rules when accusing someone of murder, nor is he breaking the german law about libel that he very blatantly was


[27-May-20 09:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gutless cowards


[27-May-20 09:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I can't _wait_ for Trump to claim credit for a South African's company getting people into space because the US government hasn't been able to anymore for the last decade


[27-May-20 09:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is american


[27-May-20 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Like everyone else who moved to us. It has that "opportunity" vibe to it.


[27-May-20 09:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
America is like earth central


[27-May-20 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of unironically is though.


[27-May-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ in media most other countries dont even really exist; aliens just arrive to America and claim they visited Earth. That's like me going to Hong Kong and saying "I've been to China now, I've seen it all there".


[27-May-20 09:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hence reinforces my point: USA is good at PR. Very good.


[27-May-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it took a dive turn in quality these past few years, but, absolutely.


[27-May-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
they made PR into art.


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Only sitting on here shows how us is hellish.


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hollywood is amazing PR


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most american movies make our country look like a fucking utopia


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
All bad news fly past radar.


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even the worst shit ends up looking like a cool adventure


[27-May-20 09:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Only from here I found out that USA police had extreme police brutality.


[27-May-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Oh, gang shootouts, exciting!" and skip the whole "living in poverty" that surrounds it all


[27-May-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"The hero got shot in the shoulder, he'll be OK!" skip the $120,000 in medical fees not covered by insurance


[27-May-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Ha ha! Look at those two buddy cops in this wholesome family comedy!" just ignore the probably beaten up homeless man around the corner they kicked the shit out of like 2 minutes before the movie started


[27-May-20 09:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But in sense, Hollywood is like a huge advert


[27-May-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) tbh that's almost insignificant compared to the points Teaspoon brought up


[27-May-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah.


[27-May-20 10:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"A 3rd world country has democracy introduced, yay!" Actually someone wanted this country resources for USA.


[27-May-20 10:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And then introduce more wars to sell guns.


[27-May-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"off screen"


[27-May-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hell, they probably kicked the hell out of him on screen as a funny moment because he asked for a lawyer


[27-May-20 10:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At some point I have to rewatch these movies with "true" pov


[27-May-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good cop unstably hostile cop


[27-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent saying to be like Japan would involve saying that guns should be generally banned.


[27-May-20 10:06 PM] Opponent#3498
pffffft no


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives would much rather use a white country that's got at least somewhat recognizable policies.


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
they were pointing at Sweden of all places.


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan is too foreign, it would open up the debate about Japan's stuff.


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, because your average Joe Republican has no idea what Sweden's actual policies are.


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them it's just "place that hates the immigrants messing with big white areas"


[27-May-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
and "is rejecting the welfare state"


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan is a whole different ballgame, Average Joe Republican knows that it's brutally strict on guns.


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that it's full of weird asians, and that they don't hate the welfare state, just white people.


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be political poison to talk about Japan in a positive light on policies.


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
why would gun laws ever come up when first thinking of Japan?


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's used as a scaremonger thing


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
oh okay, context. Fair enough.


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Japan has some of the strictest gun control in the world.


[27-May-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump likes calling up nordic countries every once in a while because white and blonde and have oil


[27-May-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The excuse the NRA uses is "can't work here to stop crime because we aren't like Japan"


[27-May-20 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[27-May-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you then go "this other policy can work here because we are just like Japan", then...uh oh.


[27-May-20 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, that's fair.


[27-May-20 10:10 PM] Opponent#3498
although it wouldn't be 'we are just like X' argument though.


[27-May-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Much the same for other asian countries. Pointing out their success would open up a littany of things like using masks.


[27-May-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but see, for Republicans, their main lens is that race = how policies work.


[27-May-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think one policy for whites, one for asians, etc.


[27-May-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's so that when like, communism takes hold somewhere in Asia


[27-May-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
they can say "wouldn't work here [because we're white]"


[27-May-20 10:11 PM] Opponent#3498
Europe would probably give then aneurism.


[27-May-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you say "everyone is basically the same, policies work the same anywhere", their heads explode with rage.


[27-May-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That would be admitting that humans are humans are humans.


[27-May-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Europe regularly causes trouble for Republicans talking policy.


[27-May-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Be like Sweden" just falls to shreds as soon as it leaves alt-right echo chambers.


[27-May-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, I think a few weeks ago there was a tweet linked in here of a guy in Amsterdam


[27-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
who suddenly realized after moving their cause WHITE HAVEN


[27-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
that people there are like, socialist liberals


[27-May-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
and started blaming the different language on creating an incompatible culture for him.


[27-May-20 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
rip.


[27-May-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I remember that tweet but didn't know backstory for it.


[27-May-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/711765115506262077


[27-May-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
I forgot just how hilarious it was.


[27-May-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
rip launch, bad weather?


[27-May-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah


[27-May-20 10:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was a 60% chance


[27-May-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump did an AF1 flyby


[27-May-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite common.


[27-May-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So I'm blaming Trump


[27-May-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/GbzrNBQ interviews with beach goers

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Roast Me: Memorial Day Edition
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[27-May-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound in source with multiple videos


[27-May-20 11:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Once again, this is why America got the highest number


[27-May-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For now anyway


[27-May-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil seems to be making a run for it

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[27-May-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Second place baby


[27-May-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GO GO GO GO


[27-May-20 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
AT THIS PACE WE CAN OUTRUN THE AMERICANS


[27-May-20 11:40 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I say American pulls a yharnam.


[28-May-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another fresh delivery of my favorite cringy political artist

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[28-May-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Putting your name/url vertically is as good as not putting it tbh


[28-May-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also wow that's a lot of effort for such a basic joke


[28-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Something about this guy's art is weird to me


[28-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like sure, really good realism


[28-May-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What the hell is this supposed to be?

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[28-May-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A weird looking chin?


[28-May-20 12:22 AM] StarlightSword4444#4854
The more I look at that, the more it looks like a worm.


[28-May-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got this realistic-but-not thing going on


[28-May-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is the bat bigger than the woman's head?


[28-May-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't fat shame the bat


[28-May-20 12:24 AM] StarlightSword4444#4854
It also kinda looks like the woman has no teeth in the bottom panel.


[28-May-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feels like this guy put all of his effort into realism and not fluidity


[28-May-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if he could draw something super cartoony


[28-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect he focuses on detail and not proportions.


[28-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of those guys who just gets the shape vaguely right, then jams in little stuff


[28-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to overload you with detail so you don't care.


[28-May-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
still a better approach than just go all out OCD on details


[28-May-20 12:46 AM] Opponent#3498
and spend 5x time it's economically viable to spend


[28-May-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just amazed he tries to sell all of these comics as part of his autobiography or something.


[28-May-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He admitted this comic was a result of him watching vampire shows a lot and going "Wow, there aren't Asian vampires"


[28-May-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then "There aren't Asian vampires now because vampires are sexy heroes now and Asian men can never be that"


[28-May-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
what


[28-May-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But also "But Asians shouldn't be vampires anyway because famous vampires were Confederates"


[28-May-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhhh


[28-May-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Breaking news


[28-May-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/PineyMcknuckle/status/1265673728186355713

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Joe Biden might have just shit his pants on a livestream  https://t.co/iFmM4oqFH2
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[28-May-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The DNC: "Trump has poop in his pants!"
The DNC 5 minutes later:


[28-May-20 01:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking when the hell did vampires somehow became hillibilly rednecks


[28-May-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/1265712433248833536

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But while we certainly don't want to return to that Orientalist lore, there's good reason to not want Asian men to join the new vampire lore either. One of the troubling features of the modern American vampire is their direct, unapologetic ties to slavery & the Confederacy. 8...
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[28-May-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like a squeeky chair, sharts are... blublier


[28-May-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It definitely sounds like a chair to me.


[28-May-20 01:08 AM] jlun2#8758
it's from the libs so it must be 💩 ~orange man


[28-May-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Time for a TEAM TRUMP tweet about it


[28-May-20 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk fam but


[28-May-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
also there are asian vampires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangshi

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A jiangshi, also known as a Chinese hopping vampire or hopping zombie, is a type of reanimated corpse in Chinese legends and folklore. The characters for "jiangshi" are read geung-si in Cantonese, cương thi in Vietnamese, gangsi in Korean, and kyonshī in Japanese. It is also k...


[28-May-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Really, idk


[28-May-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
they even hop like bunnies


[28-May-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If he did shit his pants it'll be kept under secrecy anyways


[28-May-20 01:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No matter if he did or didn't, Trump supporters will have a field day with this


[28-May-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I wouldn't expect this guy to want more Chinese influence


[28-May-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/1265712431604609026

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Dracula & Fu Manchu are used as propaganda to portray the East as an infection that will overtake the minds & bodies of pure, civilized white people (esp white women) & ruin Western society. Christopher Lee—a white Brit known for playing villains—played both & used yellowface...
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[28-May-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/1265712425816526849

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Vampires weren't always depicted positively. The origins of vampire lore are steeped in a sort of Orientalism, where Eastern Europe was othered as barbaric & dangerous to Western Christian values. The earlier depictions were more visibly monstrous & less human, like Nosferatu...
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[28-May-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dracula is an allegory for sex, but okay


[28-May-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jekyll and Hyde too


[28-May-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Orientalism" wasn't like, Romania


[28-May-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was Turkey and Egypt.


[28-May-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure at that age if Biden shat his pants it wouldn't even be audible.


[28-May-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Listen here Jack, my sharts are loud and proud."


[28-May-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Listen here Jack, *loud farting noise*. POO. POO. That's on you, Jack.


[28-May-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It begins https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1265672525704462336

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Did @JoeBiden just pull an Eric Swalwell? 🤣 https://t.co/xmlgqIXdWH
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[28-May-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
...have we really fallen so low that this is the best both presidential campaigns can do?


[28-May-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
have it a contentious issue if some guy sharted on stream?


[28-May-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
fucking really


[28-May-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump team has been trying hard to find dirt on Biden for a year and gotten nothing


[28-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when satire news was satire? http://thegabbler.com/hard-news-for-harder-times/2012/08/21/media-reacts-to-notorious-joe-biden-fart-gaffe/

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Media Reacts to Notorious Joe Biden Fart Gaffe « THE GABBLER
The Gabbler is a creative website of humor, culture, and current events.


[28-May-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
2012, a simpler time.


[28-May-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything they have is gaffes from Biden himself


[28-May-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rudy's gone into the night, forgotten


[28-May-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden plagiarized shit a ton and lied about his academic career and the media sleeps


[28-May-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fart once and everyone is over it


[28-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe this was planned.


[28-May-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do it now while it won't matter so it can't hurt him later if he messes up on stage.


[28-May-20 01:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Chapo interview with a historian that investigated the Indonesian genocide of the 1960's and its broader implications in the whole of the Cold War Anti-Communism. https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/bonus-the-jakarta-method-feat-vincent-bevins

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Will and Matt talk to journalist Vincent Bevins about his new book “The Jakarta Method,” detailing the U.S.’s involvement in the mass killings of leftists in Indonesia in the 60’s, and how it set the
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[28-May-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie @Itsthinking https://twitter.com/cbctom/status/1265770425566613504

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AP BREAKING: White House says President Trump will sign an executive order shortly regarding social media companies.
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[28-May-20 02:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*Here we go*


[28-May-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he will


[28-May-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck the hundred thousand people who died, we have smaller fish to fry!


[28-May-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine feeling so slighted by a social media company for fact checking you that you ignore the 9/11 scale of death that happens every few days and attempt to bully the company into submission instead


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is to likely distract.


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, but no


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the courts stop everything, he's still taken the story off of the 100k deaths.


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He doesn't care


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
it's true that it serves as a distraction, but he is really, really fucking mad about twitter


[28-May-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the conspiracy theory was the distraction, this is him pissed that twitter called him out on his actiual fake news


[28-May-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just look at all the people that within _minutes_ of hearing the news exalt Trump over it
<https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/27/president-trump-will-sign-executive-order-on-social-media-censorship/>


[28-May-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These people in the comments are common


[28-May-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're 30% of America _at least_


[28-May-20 02:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They will fight themselves to run in front of a truck to ~own the libs~


[28-May-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
the insanity is that twitter didn't even censor him


[28-May-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
just put a little warning icon below his tweet that says "⚠️ Get the facts about mail-in ballots"


[28-May-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but only he;s allowed to call fake news!


[28-May-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even as eyecatching as that


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
fight against social media is one he cannot win


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It really fucking boggles the mind that there is a man in his 70s that can be butthurt so easily


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
they'll censor him forever with no buyout and stall in courts.


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
then where's he?


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
he's the definitive Twitter president


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also if he somehow manages to shut down twitter by some miracle, he'll also have an aneurysm as he loses the main platform for speeches he has


[28-May-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And half a nation so eager to suck his dick to make him feel better


[28-May-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
I clicked the breitbart link, and I have to say that I'm impressed: conspiratard bs _and_ veiled antisemetism in a single sentence in the byline?


[28-May-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
> President Donald Trump will sign an executive order on social media censorship amid rapidly intensifying political bias from the Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe.

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[28-May-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
breitbart would be a comedy site if it wasn't so popular


[28-May-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
✡️


[28-May-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
#271 on Alexa


[28-May-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
that's like global?


[28-May-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
if so it's insane.


[28-May-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, global


[28-May-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX news is 249


[28-May-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Breitbart and its commenters are _not_ fringe


[28-May-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're over half of the GOP base


[28-May-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you made me check derpi, hanging out there at 24k


[28-May-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you might be interested to know that e6 is at 7k


[28-May-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It dropped like a rock after the delisting I guess


[28-May-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
do you want me to undo it


[28-May-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Given ~the fandom is dying~ and how artists keep DNPing anyway, maybe


[28-May-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Added with how DA's gone to shit and Tumblr's dead, it's not like results on derpi are going to be stealing "much"


[28-May-20 02:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd rather drive google results into a trashcan than into either of those two sites


[28-May-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
so I should undo it then


[28-May-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't see any harm done, so yeah, i guess so


[28-May-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno about bing, that was a separate concern


[28-May-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
probably they fixed their shit by now


[28-May-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess we'll see soon enough


[28-May-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
done


[28-May-20 02:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/robots.txt


[28-May-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
thx


[28-May-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/26/andrew-cuomo-nursing-home-execs-immunity

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[28-May-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
> As Governor Andrew Cuomo faced a spirited challenge in his bid to win New York’s 2018 Democratic primary, his political apparatus got a last-minute boost: a powerful healthcare industry group suddenly poured more than $1m into a Democratic committee backing his campaign.
> 
> Less than two years after that flood of cash from the Greater New York Hospital Association (GNYHA), Cuomo signed legislation last month quietly shielding hospital and nursing home executives from the threat of lawsuits stemming from the coronavirus outbreak. The provision, inserted into an annual budget bill by Cuomo’s aides, created one of the nation’s most explicit immunity protections for healthcare industry officials, according to legal experts.


[28-May-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Critics say Cuomo removed a key deterrent against nursing home and hospital corporations cutting corners in ways that jeopardize lives. As those critics now try to repeal the provision during this final week of Albany’s legislative session, they assert that data prove such immunity is correlating to higher nursing home death rates during the pandemic – both in New York and in other states enacting similar immunity policies.


[28-May-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/NoleHolmes/status/1265806843131150337?s=20

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What if tomorrow’s #ExecutiveOrder infringement, emboldens @Jack to call Trump’s bluff and he finally kicks him off the platform? https://t.co/qFcmFkUiXJ
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[28-May-20 04:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/NYdrPRT0kp?amp=1

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Trump will sign an executive order on social media companies: White...
U.S. President Donald Trump will sign an executive order shortly regarding social media companies, a White House spokeswoman said on Wednesday.
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[28-May-20 04:16 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm surprised it even took him this long


[28-May-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Regardless of its content, i don't think it'll change anything


[28-May-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Courts have already ruled social media companies can do whatever they want with speech in their platforms iirc


[28-May-20 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And they already platform conservatives


[28-May-20 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's just grasping at straws


[28-May-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
you say that with such confidence, as if trump isn't effectively the owner of a modern day gestapo who will arrest and detain anyone for any reason


[28-May-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I can only _hope_ nothing will come of it


[28-May-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym


[28-May-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump already had a political chance to do that before 2018


[28-May-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If he didn't do that even then, he's proven himself more an incompetent moron than we think


[28-May-20 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The slow GOP coup on Murican democracy won't come to a conclusion so abruptly, or else people will realize it's an illusion


[28-May-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
if we still get a democracy in 5 decades I wonder how millennial Trump would be like


[28-May-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1265837416973287424

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RIP
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Twitter


[28-May-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now this is the apocalyptic aesthetic I signed up for.


[28-May-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Inb4 though the amount of looting and violence is overstated all in all and who exactly did it


[28-May-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/ergrsy6ehc151.jpg

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[28-May-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's some idiot who complains about this style for racist/sexist reasons but yeah


[28-May-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"CalArts" is awful not because of "SJWs" but because it is a corporate hijacking of a style designed to be a middle finger to corporate children's entertainment studios during a time when the trend was towards live-action. This is similar.


[28-May-20 05:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
You could also make the argument for simplicity stream lining animation allowing for detail focus to be placed elsewhere, whether it is emotive characteristics or even into backgrounds.

Some quick vector doddles for Google assets is probably just to be quick and cheap to throw together by some interns.


[28-May-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also you know, the borderline enslavement of Southeast Asians needed to make them


[28-May-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These designs exist to drive down standards so workers can be paid less


[28-May-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you don't need to do multiple revisions, you don't have to pay the workers in Vancouver (they have a pool table and a pizza party) or Manila for more than one pass at the work.


[28-May-20 05:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well, yeah. But there you have the intersection of art with capitalism. Namely animation isn't all that big in the west or doesn't have high returns and any studio or publisher is going to want to maximize returns. Drawn animation is tedious bullshit. 3d I think can be cheaper and even comes with needing smaller teams though 3d animation studios themselves tend to be enslaved so often they die after a year.


[28-May-20 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
But love action has the better margins and can more readily accept CGI animations allowing for a strange shoggoth of a beast where more and more fantastical shit can be made to wow Hariot and Cleetus to forgo twenty dollars to see it ten times. Twenty each


[28-May-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny, I think the list of animated films that are considered "classics" gets maybe updated once every decade among Western film critics


[28-May-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, people _still_ talk about Coraline


[28-May-20 05:48 AM] AaronMk#4499
If we released the flow of money we could arguably see more animated films if we pump it without concern into anyone's weird animated passion project.


[28-May-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've talked about this before, but basically the easiest way to a film critic's heart for your animation is claymation/fake claymation


[28-May-20 05:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
But all that money has to be put into Jeff Bezos's black hole in the Pacific for some reason


[28-May-20 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tfw Bezos or Bloomberg could both fund eighty Avengers movies with their own money. Not splitting anything, just straight up hand over a flat down payment and not lose a cent.


[28-May-20 05:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
But Bezos and Bloomberg both evidently have NO passion project ambitions


[28-May-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard rumors that Bloomberg's run was all about a sneaky way to fund his Democratic candidates of choice


[28-May-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not sure I believe it


[28-May-20 05:51 AM] AaronMk#4499
Say what you want about Chinese cinema being garbage 90% of the time. But at least it is garbage funded for and bought by their billionaires because it is their passion project to see China make American movies.


[28-May-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was the first person to actually try the "Only Super Tuesday Matters" plan


[28-May-20 05:51 AM] Honahue#0656
Coraline had my favorite peice of marketting ever, it advertized being directed by the same guy as Nightmare Before Christmas, which wasn't TIm Burton he produced it, but some other guy


[28-May-20 05:52 AM] Honahue#0656
but Paranorman is probaly Laika's best movie over all and Kubo best technically


[28-May-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
We should reorient the American economy to traditional animation for the memes.


[28-May-20 05:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to see what happens when you unleash all of art artsy nerds dreams into the world. How much of it would be straight up anime? How much of it would be something new?


[28-May-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably a lot of clones of existing shows.


[28-May-20 05:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally true of the entire industry.


[28-May-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
But if it was public funding without disgression. No risk of failure.


[28-May-20 05:55 AM] Honahue#0656
you'd have a few years of that eventually you'd also have a bunch of Hazbin/Satillite City high effort Devient Art shows too


[28-May-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
yes, you would have "Sex! laugh now." a lot


[28-May-20 05:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because a lot of current clone shows is done because X and Y show is good and has a proven track record.


[28-May-20 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Sex is the punchline is just the current zeirgeist, violence is the punchline was the early 00's not sure what comes after though


[28-May-20 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
tho Hazbin does both


[28-May-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Traditional animation is expensive and dying for a reason.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Miyazaki could do crowd scenes where everyone was an actual character, but he took time and didn't drive for max profits.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also Disney ruined his soundscapes anyways when localizing.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
I was or still am - I don't know the status of it right now - in a fantasy Nation RP where the participants took on the role of various vassalized realms to a larger empire. For some reason I made a kingdom of super Anglo bird people who I was gearing up to do a Parliamentarian revolution against the ailing empire to ostensibly rescue it but adding in new structures. Would be hella rad to get funding to just pursue some insane dream of throwing together a serious straight faced animated fantasy epic of English birds with heccin' Puritan names trying to force into existence a Constitutional Monarchist empire and the knock of effects of making so much instability


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Miyazaki is too jaded now.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is not the point.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
he's making another movie


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that doing anything close to what he does is ridiculously expensive and eats into profits.


[28-May-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was because of the time


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So while big movies worldwide targeted at children with amazing writing can actually pull in the cash.


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If Kiki's Delivery Service came out now, it would be fine.


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your average production will fail doing what he did.


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And not rely on home video sales


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could not, for instance, do The Clone Wars in that manner.


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Wind Rises had a 30 million budget which is pretty cheap, along the lines of something stupud like RIPD


[28-May-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You wouldn't be able to make more than a few seasons before the money runs dry.


[28-May-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
30 million is a lot for a cartoon.


[28-May-20 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a movie


[28-May-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but the point is this can only work for big movies with worldwide releases and good writing.


[28-May-20 06:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Zootopia was 150 million


[28-May-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You won't make bakk that 30 million on a more limited project.


[28-May-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result, TV shows *cannot* do it.


[28-May-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And anything that's risky can't either.


[28-May-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Zootopia was turned into a mess in terms of writing, I'm sorry. It was a technological marvel, but the story was ok at best.


[28-May-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could easily end up with a box office haul of 40 million and come out at a loss due to marketing.


[28-May-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
the story was the same story as every Disney/Pixar movie since like 2012


[28-May-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
third act villian reveal has been their thing since at least Wall-E


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was one of the few times it was actually mildly surprising.


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get how you make an animated movie with Jason Bateman as a lead and have to go "Wait, this isn't good enough, we need another main character"


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's a little too weak etc. to be obvious.


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how bad are your writers if you can't use Jason Bateman properly


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, you can't just dump money into 2D animation to save it. It won't really work.


[28-May-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term, 3D will devour it.


[28-May-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a certain point, 3D will just hav a button that says render to 2D.


[28-May-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
ealy Zootopia wouldve actually been ballsy for Disney to make cause it was a fucking nightmare world


[28-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[28-May-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something like Pony Life is going to be incredibly dated in 20 years.


[28-May-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's how most studios go with their productions now. Both to ensure the creatives put their best work into it, and so they can see how to properly sell lunch boxes


[28-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It will be "one of those weird calarts things from when people tried to make 2D art cheap enuff to compete with 3D"


[28-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
People'll just look at even *Rebels* and say "yeah 3D beats its pants off"


[28-May-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The MLP Movie, Hasbro told them to draw whatever they wanted, don't care about the style


[28-May-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
calarts style will only exist as long as it's actually the cheapest way


[28-May-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why the art book has hyper realistic bird pirates and Klugetown built around a skeleton


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the last gasp.


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean the only cheaper way is AI


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AI will come for voice over work first


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Honahue#0656
the real thing to watch out for is Mandalorian's backgrounds, it's nuts realtime camera tracking with backgrounds rendering in Unreal engine


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit


[28-May-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
3D still has some expense to it for reasons other than labor, Its


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could pay a VA for a day of work reading out sample lines, and train an AI off of it


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once it's purely labor, it's cheap as fukk because you can reuse assets like crazy.


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason The Clone Wars got significantly better as the show went on


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
even after being canceled for a bit.


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even paying them a week or two, you've got 40-80 hours of stuff to train an AI with


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every now and then they did redesigns of things.


[28-May-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over the course of 11 years, it really made a difference without hurting their budget.


[28-May-20 06:08 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bErPsq5kPzE

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bErPsq5kPzE/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird but not surprising two of the last things pre-Disney acquired Lucasarts did


[28-May-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was make Star Wars Detours and Star Wars Kinect


[28-May-20 06:10 AM] Honahue#0656
it's got to be weird to be on set watching the backgrounds follow the camera


[28-May-20 06:11 AM] Honahue#0656
come a long way from carboard and foam sets from Star Trek


[28-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what Lucas wanted.


[28-May-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why he made the prequels digital and with tons of CG


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always wonder, do you really think he was thinking of midichlorians when he came up with Episode IV


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way he talks in interviews, it is very clear he makes shit up as he goes along.


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also is terrible at making dialog and tends to overly-construct it.


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Luke's early dialog involved a big rant about Mon Sullust


[28-May-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like 30 words in a sentence.


[28-May-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why did it take him so long to realize "Revenge of the Jedi" made no sense?


[28-May-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, making it up as he went along.


[28-May-20 06:14 AM] Honahue#0656
the name?


[28-May-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Return of the Jedi's title was "Revenge of the Jedi" until like four months before release, then someone pointed out to Lucas that Jedi don't do revenge I guess?


[28-May-20 06:15 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'll admit i really did like some of the scrapped ideas and art for early revenge of the jedi. 
such as storm troopers armed with their own lightsabers.
and the showdown actually taking place in the actual imperial palace.


[28-May-20 06:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] :bigbrain: make video games using "big tech corporate art style"


[28-May-20 07:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Video games don't get made in that style, it's fake PS1 graphics or Nintendo clones that get the most popularity


[28-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
photorealistic fake PS1 graphics


[28-May-20 07:17 AM] jlun2#8758
wait shit that's a thing


[28-May-20 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
I just finished a Metal Gear Rex model and went back to look at it's PS1 model and honeslty I think it still looks pretty good


[28-May-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/kscullinfox9/status/1265790143446876160

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[28-May-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drh8iW0NmuQ

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TheBanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drh8iW0NmuQ
Woman stabbing people trying to stop them from looting sprayed with...
#minnesota #riot
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[28-May-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
she has a knife


[28-May-20 08:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/499862-pelosi-postpones-vote-on-fisa-bill-after-trump-veto-threat

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Pelosi pulls vote on FISA bill after Trump veto threat
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) yanked a vote scheduled for Wednesday night on a bill reauthorizing lapsed surveillance programs after opposition from Republicans and progressives made it unclear if it could pass.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pelosinancy_050720gn9_lead.jpg


[28-May-20 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-cop-fired-saying-unfortunate-more-black-people-didn-t-n1215451

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Officer said 'unfortunate' coronavirus didn't kill more black peopl...
"As a police officer, we're held to a higher standard than normal civilians," the police chief in Kaplan, Louisiana, said. "So you got to watch what you do, you got to watch what you say."
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_22/3365711/200527-kaplan-police-department-se-1033a_538fa31ee89c03fa08228e7b7c53e1ce.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg

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[28-May-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/CBLDF/status/1265389225744060416

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https://twitter.com/CBLDF/status/1265389225744060416
President Trump's campaign issued a complaint causing the removal of Nick Anderson's political cartoon from @redbubble. Today, we're leading a coalition calling on Redbubble to affirm its commitment to the First Amendment and reinstate Mr. Anderson's work. https://t.co/g3DXeN...
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[28-May-20 09:24 AM] Opponent#3498
```if we still get a democracy in 5 decades I wonder how millennial Trump would be like```


[28-May-20 09:24 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine Nebbie.


[28-May-20 09:24 AM] Opponent#3498
confiscate all guns, imprison all whites :D


[28-May-20 09:32 AM] Opponent#3498
```ootopia was turned into a mess in terms of writing, I'm sorry. It was a technological marvel, but the story 
was ok at best.```


[28-May-20 09:32 AM] Opponent#3498
a US furry icon, the appeal began and ended there.


[28-May-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it found a neglected niche and exploited it. Not sure why would that translate into a success for a 150m project but...


[28-May-20 09:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/05/27/texas-supreme-court-halts-expansion-of-mail-in-voting/amp/

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Texas Supreme Court Halts Expansion Of Mail-In Voting
Voters can’t cite a lack of immunity to the coronavirus as a reason for getting a mail-in ballot, the court ruled.
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[28-May-20 09:44 AM] Opponent#3498
...and back and forth...


[28-May-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
```such as storm troopers armed with their own lightsabers.
and the showdown actually taking place in the actual imperial palace.```


[28-May-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
true, it'd be pretty cool.


[28-May-20 10:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/europe/russia-medical-workers-coronavirus-intl/index.html

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Overworked and mistrusted: Russia's medical workers risk their live...
In Russia, frontline health workers battling the coronavirus pandemic say they face fear, mistrust -- and even open hostility.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200528133051-russia-doctor-coronavirus-super-tease.jpeg


[28-May-20 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/zspyUVr.jpg

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[28-May-20 02:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Protest over George Floyd death turns violent, deadly in Minneapolis https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/conflict-erupts-minneapolis-l-protests-over-george-floyd-death-n1216096

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Protest over George Floyd death turns violent, deadly in Minneapolis
Minneapolis police once again used tear gas as widespread looting and multiple fires were reported at the protest.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_22/3366781/200527-autozone-fire-minneapolis-riots-ac-1121p_3a2e4cdbcd2aa1f9c7675ec00774fced.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-May-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
aah, the traditional american passtime.


[28-May-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
looting :3


[28-May-20 02:22 PM] illumnious#7938
The racist shit is coming back


[28-May-20 02:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/mY0qOCUy27Q

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Drive-By Truckers - What It Means (Official Lyric Video)
Drive-By Truckers “American Band” is in stores September 30th, 2016

PRE-ORDER:
Drive-By Truckers store: http://drivebytruckers.shop.musictoda...
iTunes: http://smarturl.it/AmericanBand
Amazon: http://smarturl.it/AmericanBand_AmzCD

Directed by Joshua Knoff

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[28-May-20 02:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kashjackson2018/status/1265977228812320769?s=21

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Sad how everyone is focusing on the #Minneapolisriots, some lady in a wheelchair named Jennifer supposedly stabbing people & people saying she's 30 & not disabled and also focusing on buildings being burned down. Not too much focus on #GeorgeFloyd though.
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[28-May-20 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-leaked-executive-order-social-media-facebook-twitter-2020-5

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It looks like Trump's draft executive order targeting Facebook and ...
Trump is expected to sign the order Thursday.
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[28-May-20 03:44 PM] Marbles#3727
This shit happens to often when someone is wrongfully killed by police. No reason to put innocent people in jeopardy because of the actions of some bad cops. These officers should be locked in a cage for the rest of their life. An officer who abuses their badge are worse than the criminals they arrest


[28-May-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2020/05/26/student-loan-borrowers-succeed-in-lawsuit-against-devos/amp/

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Student Loan Borrowers Succeed In Lawsuit Against DeVos
A federal judge has approved a final settlement agreement between a class of student loan borrowers and the U. S. Department of Education.
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[28-May-20 04:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The warnings on Trump's tweets seem to be gone...

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[28-May-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/499902-trump-marks-very-sad-milestone-of-100k-coronavirus-deaths

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Trump marks 'very sad milestone' of 100K coronavirus deaths
President Trump on Thursday morning said that the United States had reached a “very sad milestone” in exceeding 100,000 deaths due to the novel coronavirus, expressing sympathy for those who have lost loved ones.
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[28-May-20 04:59 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[28-May-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-May-20 05:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*can'   t*


[28-May-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/499917-trump-shares-video-supporter-saying-politically-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead

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Trump shares video of supporter saying that politically 'the only g...
President Trump shared a video showing a supporter declaring that politically "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/griffincouy_052820twitter.png


[28-May-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of how Iran says "Death to America" really isn't about wishing America dead

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[28-May-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Using a pro-genocide quote to own the libs


[28-May-20 07:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is it now? I thought protesting and burning shit is the African way.


[28-May-20 07:17 PM] byte[]#2610
american*


[28-May-20 07:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Only in Africa:
>not happy with public transport delivery - burn busses.
>not happy with education - burn schools.


[28-May-20 07:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The list goes on.


[28-May-20 07:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it works :D Progressing to stone age, one arson at a time.


[28-May-20 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX News site is really pschizo


[28-May-20 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/media/kayleigh-mcenany-mail-in-ballots-tampa-bay-times-report

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Kayleigh McEnany responds to reports she voted by mail 11 times: Tr...
Reacting to a Tampa Bay Times report that she had mailed in 11 ballots over the course of a decade, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany reasserted Thursday that she is entitled to mail-in voting and defended President Trump's stance on the issue.
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[28-May-20 07:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Mail voting fraud is extremely rare and according to Fortune, about 0.00006% of total vote-by-mail votes cast have been fraudulent over the last 20 years.
> 
> Trump himself voted by mail in April's Florida primary.


[28-May-20 07:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll randomly toss in articles with facts and no spin among a sea of bitching about CNN/NBC and clickbait articles on "Read about what's making Democrats angry now!"


[28-May-20 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.scribd.com/document/463379849/Draft-Executive-Order-on-Social-Media

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Draft Executive Order on Social Media | Federal Trade Commission | ...
A very unconstitutional mess
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[28-May-20 07:36 PM] byte[]#2610
read this shit


[28-May-20 07:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Too long; didn't read...


[28-May-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
reading it is more than the document deserves :D


[28-May-20 07:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Briefly skimming it (on mobile) I see no mention of "also we're removing Adult Content™ lol" so I guess that's something??? :shrugpony:


[28-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
I believe it's saying that any "editorial" decisions mean you no longer get considered an open platform, taxpayer money can't be sent to you, and then legal action can be taken by the FTC because you're the publisher of everything and they'll find a way to say you're violating your own ToS etc..


[28-May-20 07:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Making platforms publishers kills the internet


[28-May-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
"editorial" referring to any action to change content that doesn't consider it pornographic/harassing/violent.


[28-May-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
It says “obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing or otherwise objectionable.”, but that "otherwise objectionable" in practice just means "smoke weed erryday"


[28-May-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they're saying Twitter is allowed to remove posts for saying the f word, but not for saying muslims should be gassed.


[28-May-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's censorship, but only for content, not politics.


[28-May-20 07:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...oh


[28-May-20 07:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah wow we're fucked


[28-May-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
What this will involve in practice is them forcing twitter to remove content that shows police shooting blakk people


[28-May-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
while keeping up tweets about how blakk people should be shot.


[28-May-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'll say "your ToS says no promotion of violence, so this bodycam footage is in violation, remove it or the FTC destroys you"


[28-May-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
and then "you can't say that this conservative blogger can't express his views about how police are justified, keep it or the FTC destroys you"


[28-May-20 07:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about outside of US?


[28-May-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
generally, US tech companies have to comply with the rules of whatever countries they have a presence in


[28-May-20 07:55 PM] jlun2#8758
no way to fix this i guess outside banning politics?


[28-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The order is unconstitutional.


[28-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is basically trying to play dictator to twitter.


[28-May-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
the entire GOP will back him tho


[28-May-20 07:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The way to fix this is for the courts to tear this apart.


[28-May-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I have limited faith in the court system to be useful here


[28-May-20 07:59 PM] byte[]#2610
unless the president takes the court up on their terms


[28-May-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
and doesn't just send in the feds to arrest people at twitter


[28-May-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
This'll get held up in a circuit court for long enuff for Biden to cancel the EO before anything happens.


[28-May-20 08:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also arresting people at twitter creates huge standing in the courts for the arrested.


[28-May-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
president is operating under the rule of "who's gonna stop me"


[28-May-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
so far, nobody


[28-May-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
and yes, I expect the first thing that twitter etc. will do is file for a preliminary injunction against the EO


[28-May-20 08:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Big court mess would mean a few less votes.


[28-May-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
they'll probably have it filed within an hour or two after the EO is signed


[28-May-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I really don't think "big court mess" or "flagrantly defying the authority of the courts" is something that matters to trump voters _at all_


[28-May-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/zuckerberg-says-twitter-wrong-fact-check-trump-1506958

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Zuckerberg says Twitter is wrong to fact-check Trump
""I just believe strongly that Facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online," the Facebook CEO told Fox News. "In general, private companies probably shouldn't be."
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1594386/facebooks-ceo-mark-zuckerberg.jpg


[28-May-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
might not matter to even most independents


[28-May-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
please die in a fire


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
they see "he stopped twitter from censoring republicans" and think "huh"


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh it doesn't matter to Trump voters.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
NOTHING does.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
N O T H I N G


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump could literally rape children at their dinner tables.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd vote him.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you again fail to see how US elections work.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It **doesn't matter** about appealing to the base.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
it matters about appealing to people on the fence


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just need to be on the right side of most issues to get the base.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is the fence.


[28-May-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fence is the only game.


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That's implying they work in the first place :implying:


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents decide the election entirely.


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
which is why I brought up the independents


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of them will care about court battles.


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
are you sure about that


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like to see "huge investigation" or "prolonged court battle"


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
yes


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
this is what screwed over Hillary


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents want things over and done


[28-May-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
they don't like a president who keeps shoveling things into their faces.


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> ""I just believe strongly that Facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything that people say online," the Facebook CEO told Fox News. "In general, private companies probably shouldn't be."
so does that mean 2016 again for them


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
a propagandized social media smear campaign against clinton is what destroyed clinton


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Facebook is corrupt as fukk.


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but that smear campaign NEEDED the investigation


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it nearly failed.


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
James Comey was critical.


[28-May-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
James Comey is a fukking moron.


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
Trump seems unsmearable


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's extremely smeared among independents


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
but their memories are short


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
you need to keep stirring things up


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what court battles can do.


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Marukomuru#8409
He is. No one has the balls to actually smear him.


[28-May-20 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't smear a turd


[28-May-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Independents are goldfish.


[28-May-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The endless appeal process generates news reliably


[28-May-20 08:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Hell, no one had the balls to say "uh, no. we're bringing witnesses to the impeachment trial because that's how shit works."


[28-May-20 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/715629153587822642/FB_IMG_1590689679324.jpg

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[28-May-20 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy mad that people are mad that he named his restaurant "Big Beaners"


[28-May-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unlike You Libtards, I'm Not Offended At All And Don't Give a Damn


[28-May-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A novela

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[28-May-20 08:58 PM] jimm#1439
zuckerberg has some really good points in that article


[28-May-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
too bad he'll probably back pedal on his views as soon as the political situation changes; hard to trust if he's  genuine


[28-May-20 09:00 PM] jimm#1439
has there been any big policy change in facebook before and after 2016?


[28-May-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few, mostly just ass covering though


[28-May-20 09:01 PM] jimm#1439
I find it unlikely facebook is going to do a 180 and start censoring pro-biden posts if biden is elected


[28-May-20 09:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they probably won;t censor biden, but they will let the bots continue to do their "fact" pushing out of monetary interest


[28-May-20 09:02 PM] jimm#1439
I don't mind twitter's blurb placement thing much either, but it's reasonable to want to keep facebook unbiased


[28-May-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a difference between unbiased and complete doormat


[28-May-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If facebook and zuckerburg take the plunge against trump in defense of twitter, it stands to lose access to tax payer money, which is the real motive here.


[28-May-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-face-masks-comments-american-obligation-trump-coronavirus-2020-5

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[28-May-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/499957-graham-urges-senior-judges-to-step-aside-ahead-of-november-election

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Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is publicly urging judges in their mid- to late-60s to consider stepping aside ahead of Election Day to help ensure that their seats could be filled by Republicans.
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[28-May-20 09:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/gaming/dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-ps4-game-a4451671.html

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New PS4 game lets you drive to Barnard Castle as Dominic Cummings
A new video game lets you drive to Barnard Castle, making fun of Government adviser Dominic Cummings' controversial trip to the County Durham beauty spot last month. The PS4 simulation enables players to cough their way through a blurry, obstacle-ridden drive to the castle - a...
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[28-May-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://m.startribune.com/minneapolis-vandalism-targets-include-189-unit-affordable-housing-development/570836742

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[28-May-20 10:23 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Okay, I have this channel muted but I have something to share for once.
And I think it is too serious and political for memes channel.


[28-May-20 10:23 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Twitter apparently finally does something against fake news and disinformation. They even went against US president Trump. It looks like they need public support now to keep going down that route.
https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/trump_vs_twitter_loc/?cXCFRob

__MORE INFORMATION__

Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning (BBC)
<https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-52815552>

Jack Dorsey explains why Twitter fact-checked Trump’s false voting claims (TechCrunch)
<https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/27/twitter-vs-trump-fact-checking-dorsey/>

How Covid-19 pushed Twitter to fact-check Trump’s tweets (Politico)
<https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/coronavirus-twitter-trump-286716>

Avaaz Disinfo Hub
<https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/disinfo_hub/>

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Trump is furious!
Twitter just posted fact-checks on one of his tweets, and now he's threatening to shut them down -- join the mega public response!  ...
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[28-May-20 10:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Are you okay?


[28-May-20 10:33 PM] Karmadose#6969
Trump has been acting more unhinged than usual recently. Threatening to shut down Twitter and retweeting people inciting violence against Democrats in quick succession


[28-May-20 10:34 PM] Karmadose#6969
And signed


[28-May-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost as if he;s been taking several medications that induce paranoia and other such nasty side effects


[28-May-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while trying to push conspiracies to cover his own ass while he ignores allt he big issues everyone is on his ass about


[28-May-20 10:38 PM] Karmadose#6969
With this stuff happening and the renewed Keemstar drama this is turning into a very entertaining week and I needed that


[28-May-20 11:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) that's what the evil liberal experts want you to believe ~orange man


[28-May-20 11:30 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I don't care who the president is, if Twitter really wants to do something against disinformation, I would welcome that.


[28-May-20 11:30 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Especially if they bark up big people too.


[28-May-20 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/499993-twitter-adds-fact-checking-labels-to-hundreds-of-tweets-despite-trump

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Twitter adds fact-checking labels to hundreds of tweets despite Tru...
Twitter has added labels to tweets from a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman as well as Ice Cube, among others.
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[28-May-20 11:48 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Sounds good.


[28-May-20 11:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[28-May-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/500027-house-republican-introduces-bill-to-hold-up-members-pay-if-they-vote-by-proxy

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House Republican introduces bill to hold up members' pay if they vo...
A group of House Republicans led by Rep. Tedd Budd (R-N.C.) on Thursday introduced legislation that would temporarily hold up pay for lawmakers who opt to vote by proxy.
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[29-May-20 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLg1ORHwEYw

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Trump DEVASTATED By Republicans In This Ad
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[29-May-20 12:10 AM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/499851-man-loses-office-lease-after-viral-video-shows-him-calling-police-on

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Man loses office lease after viral video shows him calling police o...
A white Minneapolis venture capitalist's office lease was terminated after a viral video showed him questioning black entrepreneurs using the gym in a building of which they were all tenants, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported Wednesday.
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[29-May-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500025-trump-says-hed-love-to-get-rid-of-my-whole-twitter-account

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Trump says he'd love to 'get rid of my whole Twitter account'
President Trump said Thursday that he'd get rid of his Twitter account if he didn't find it necessary to push back against "fake news."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_05282020getty.jpg


[29-May-20 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which means he's not willing to get rid of it


[29-May-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
he's as addicted to it as all those young people his base bashes


[29-May-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
please


[29-May-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
delete your twitter account


[29-May-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
:3


[29-May-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People talking about small businesses dying because of these riots but only ever showing chains really boggles my noggle


[29-May-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking what do you mean the local mcdonalds isn't small?


[29-May-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
probably because i dont think ppl are even aware they're chains


[29-May-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
like for all they know their local mcdonalds IS the only one around the world


[29-May-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, Conservatives don't actually believe small businesses exist.


[29-May-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a codeword for Walmart.


[29-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is everyone pretends their local AppleBee's and Taco Bell, because it's managed by local people, is a small business.


[29-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way that they think they should be an American first and whatever their local town is second.


[29-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives *don't want* diversity.


[29-May-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelKIRO7/status/1265758475377762305?

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Not dead yet”: @BethelSD says it’s investigating this social media post of a first-year wrestling coach at Bethel High School who’s pictured with a knee pressed into his neck. #GeorgeFloyd
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[29-May-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/500035-cortez-mastro-says-shes-not-interested-in-being-biden-vp

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Cortez Mastro says she's not interested in being Biden VP
Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) announced Thursday that she has pulled out of consideration to be presumptive Democratic candidate Joe Biden’s vice president.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cortezmastocatherine_052119gn_lead.jpg


[29-May-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would also like to state that despite not being a woman or a politician, I am also withdrawing from the running to be Biden's VP.


[29-May-20 01:13 AM] Honahue#0656
there used to be a local coffee shop around here called Beaners, they changed their name when they started moving out of state tho, pretty sure they didn't realize it was a slur


[29-May-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
slur for blacks, as usual? :D


[29-May-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mexicans.


[29-May-20 01:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Are police."


[29-May-20 01:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I changed my major when I had a class in a 300 level course with a guy that used are for our in my group


[29-May-20 01:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
in *are group


[29-May-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ohhh, that's what the are was... the post still doesn't make much sense but that one was stumping me


[29-May-20 01:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2MvGXdNr2c

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Another Federal Judge Ruins The Plans Of Florida Republicans
The Republicans in charge of the state of Florida just can't catch a break as they try to disenfranchise more than a million voters. Yet another judge has found that their attempt to make former felons pay all restitution before regaining their right to vote amounts to a poll ...
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[29-May-20 01:51 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/make-whites-great-again-hat/

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Dan Evon
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Is This Derek Chauvin Wearing a "Make Whites Great Again" Hat?
Chauvin is the former Minneapolis police officer identified in news reports as the killer of George Floyd.
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[29-May-20 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
People be mad that rioters looted a Target and I be like, "Come on, hit an armory. Loot an armory. Do it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jso1YRQnpCI

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[29-May-20 02:06 AM] Opponent#3498
people loot convenience stores cause they don't wanna change anything. It's not a protest. It's 'we can haz free stuff and they'll never recover all of it'


[29-May-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/revengedja/status/1266150192312651781?s=19

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https://twitter.com/revengedja/status/1266150192312651781?s=19
TikTok blocked the #blacklivesmatter tag and every single tag related to #GeorgeFloyd.
This is disgusting.
Fuck TikTok.
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[29-May-20 02:46 AM] illumnious#7938
good thing I don't use that shit


[29-May-20 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why would one be using TikTok for political activism tbh


[29-May-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
TikTock is ass in general


[29-May-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because there are a lot of young people on TikTok


[29-May-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm 20 and I feel like I'm 50


[29-May-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
it's also likely flat out against their TOS


[29-May-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been used to kick off viral activism in the past, and stuff like hygiene practices for the corona


[29-May-20 02:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/LMCopKilla/status/1266144987563122688?s=09

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https://twitter.com/LMCopKilla/status/1266144987563122688?s=09
the protesters didn't turn the protests into riots. undercover cops started to light things on fire, which spreaded and got worse due to the tear gas, and break windows. they did this so the protesters would look bad and media would cover it as riots instead of protests. http...
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[29-May-20 02:53 AM] illumnious#7938
and the trends are shitty


[29-May-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In any case I imagine TikTok has "anything political" as against their ToS to avoid getting in hot water with daddy China


[29-May-20 02:55 AM] illumnious#7938
sheesh


[29-May-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289228620692586497/715731369724215386/unknown.png

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[29-May-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
stonetoss made a four panel comic


[29-May-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
you know what that means


[29-May-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-May-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-companies-named-in-trump-executive-order-twitter-facebook-google-2020-5

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Trump's executive order calls out YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and ...
Trump's executive order namechecked a handful of tech companies, but tried to spare Google with a strange tweak of phrasing.
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[29-May-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's executive order calls out YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook — but Google's name curiously disappeared from the final version of the order


[29-May-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In a clear snub to G+


[29-May-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But more seriously, YouTube is Google's


[29-May-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Google" on its own doesn't have much in the way of user comments outside of map reviews


[29-May-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I did note that the doc referred to their search engine without naming Google itself, though


[29-May-20 03:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese Congress passed a new law of "cooldown time of divorcing"


[29-May-20 03:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It means we have to take 30 days "cooldown time" before divorcing


[29-May-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you have to give 30 days advanced notice of divorce?


[29-May-20 03:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[29-May-20 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/mY0qOCUy27Q Song still relevant in 2020

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[29-May-20 03:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk the purpose of this policy... Actually many representatives are against it


[29-May-20 03:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But it still passed the voting


[29-May-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-May-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to prevent uighur women from immediately ditching their forced marriages and running.


[29-May-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 30 days buys time for them to be forced to agree to undo the divorce paperwork.


[29-May-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Give police advanced notice of a terrorist on the loose


[29-May-20 03:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Undoing the divorce paperwork also need 30 cooldown time


[29-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but during that time, they can be kept in line.


[29-May-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Delays like that help the ones forcing the marriages, not the women trying to escape.


[29-May-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like reading the official English-language/Western-focused CCP propaganda


[29-May-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's always "The West doesn't get how hard the Chinese want to be unified" whenever the Uighurs get mentioned


[29-May-20 03:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many representatives are against this law just because of this reason


[29-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah we sure just don't get how racist the gov't is.


[29-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ya got us there, CCP.


[29-May-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll just hav to stop saying you're wrong.


[29-May-20 03:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "Uighurs"?


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turkic people in Northwestern China


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Xinjiang region


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The minority?


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese gov't hates them because they're muslim, non-Han, and may resist gov't directives.


[29-May-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're a minority overall, but not really in their region.


[29-May-20 03:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually 3 out of 4 Xinjiang people are Han now


[29-May-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
China's very intent on raising that percentage.


[29-May-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence the forced marriages, forced relocations, etc.


[29-May-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar shit as Tibet.


[29-May-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many Han people hate minorities


[29-May-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially Muslims


[29-May-20 03:41 AM] jimm#1439
china delenda est


[29-May-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because of their high crime rate


[29-May-20 03:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And "minority welfare" from the gov


[29-May-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How eerily similar to everywhere else in the world where there's a racial majority/minority situation


[29-May-20 03:43 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, your idea would imply that a) people looking to escape from a government-mandated forced marriage would _file paperwork_ to _the government_ b) that filing said paperwork would help in any way, shape or form before.


[29-May-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://chaser.com.au/world/social-media-should-not-fact-check-posts-says-child-molester-mark-zuckerberg/

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[29-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a court approve something when it has no clue what's going on can help.


[29-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't isn't completely unified.


[29-May-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Minority always in the spotlight and the receiving end of confirmation bias which just punishes their situation and ends up making that bias a little more real by virtue of disenfranchisement and application of biases


[29-May-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
A local official may be behind a forced marriage, rather than the local judicial system etc.


[29-May-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
to call this a stretch might be too generous for me right now, but I don't have any better ideas anyway.


[29-May-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
if so, this is... horribly ineffecient.


[29-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want to be efficient.


[29-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to be able to make excuses.


[29-May-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't just go "marry this guy or get thrown in prison" directly, it'd break the facade slightly, and lessen their control over the region.


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Uh... wait


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
someone's at the door? :D


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The region?


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> 1st of your 1,000,000 free articles this month


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Wow fucking paywalls smh


[29-May-20 03:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You mean the minorities' region?


[29-May-20 03:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This law is in our "civil law", so it only work on Hans


[29-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[29-May-20 03:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Minorities have their own laws about marriage


[29-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Local people might sympathize if they know what's going on.


[29-May-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if it's a Han marrying a Uighur?


[29-May-20 03:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It depends on where they sign up


[29-May-20 03:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If in Uighur area, then follow the Uighur marriage law; in Han area follow the Han marriage law


[29-May-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
oh that's coo


[29-May-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
does the government recognize them or is that something else


[29-May-20 03:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like the whole Xinjiang is a "Uygur Autonomous Region" so they use Uighur law


[29-May-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
ah


[29-May-20 03:54 AM] jlun2#8758
pls have fake mark Zuckerberg  info trend on Facebook

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[29-May-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be entertaining to watch


[29-May-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
how different are things in economic zones than most of China?


[29-May-20 03:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Economic zone?


[29-May-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
um


[29-May-20 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Special Economic Zones


[29-May-20 03:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You mean Shanghai or Shenzhen?


[29-May-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_economic_zones_of_China

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[29-May-20 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These


[29-May-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye, those


[29-May-20 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah Shenzhen is one of them


[29-May-20 03:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just much richer, which more tall buildings, cars, bridges and air pollution


[29-May-20 03:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And comic cons


[29-May-20 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
http://chuangcn.org/2020/05/remolding-hong-kong/

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[29-May-20 03:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
> ... now is a good time for us to finally publish the following translation of an interview we conducted last November with two mainland Marxists, Red-Haired Monster (红毛怪) and Basketball (篮球).1 In contrast with our previous writings, translations, intakes and reposts about the movement in Hong Kong, this interview focuses on the movement’s less widely understood significance for the state and ordinary people in mainland China. In particular, the conversation centers on Beijing’s efforts to build “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era”—what the interviewees’ describe as ideological window-dressing for the state’s fumbling attempts (actually dating back to the previous government under Hu Jintao) to create a new model for capitalist rule, now that neoliberalism has been exhausted and economic growth has entered a period of decline both globally and increasingly within China, just as Chinese capital has begun to achieve a new importance on the world stage.


[29-May-20 04:00 AM] illumnious#7938
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[29-May-20 04:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf is these two names


[29-May-20 04:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Names they want the Xi Police to know them by because they be underground af


[29-May-20 04:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know Xi is called "Winnie Bear"


[29-May-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
haha, Winnie the Pooh is the US version


[29-May-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
but he is a stuffed bear


[29-May-20 04:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well no, these aren't names to refer to Xi by. But names the two individuals refer to themselves by so they don't betray their identities to the police


[29-May-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
reasonable.


[29-May-20 04:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can understand "red hair monster" because that's how Kuomintang used to call communists


[29-May-20 04:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But wtf is "basketball"


[29-May-20 04:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
I recall reading a book about the history of US-Chinese relations and it talked about how I guess you guys adopted Basketball very readily from the US. If because "basketball diplomacy" plays a huge role in society; and after events since I read that book and since it was written I would say up until today.


[29-May-20 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
Namely the NBA's kowtowing to Beijing


[29-May-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vague and generic, makes the name hard to pin to anyone specific


[29-May-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or that


[29-May-20 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
But hey, the more generic the better because now you can get lost in Google searches


[29-May-20 04:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sounds logic


[29-May-20 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
> B: The US has also been a major object of research and emulation (学习) by the Chinese rulers, since the US is as big as China, and the American political system has been relatively stable for over two centuries. But clearly this model is now unacceptable as well. It has many components that can be emulated, but as whole, the order of the day is to explore and establish a completely new model of capitalist rule.

Yeah, this seems about right according to the relationship model I've come to know.


[29-May-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Social media regulation really is weird


[29-May-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It really isn't the government's space to intercede this much


[29-May-20 04:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Social media is also weird because is it a publisher or a platform/commons space.


[29-May-20 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656
it's all arbitrary though, government or company they both just make some decisions and for the most part the actualy population doesn't get much say


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Social media is more comparable to a private home than a public space


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
i wonder will China get perm UBI before USA


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] Honahue#0656
medicare for all is wildly popular in the US like 80% support


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
If the later it is a hella corruption of the Commons, or as it can exist in Capitalism. But if it were to be seized by the state to make public, this heralds a shit ton of international diplomatic repercussions.


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] Honahue#0656
won't happen cause the government doesn't listen to the people


[29-May-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue  wait, even with the commie phobia ?


[29-May-20 04:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
I think it's less to do about paranoia over "communism" and more of a twisting of the narrative into a bunch of stories or ideas over what is correct politics.


[29-May-20 04:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like you can have Liz Warren libs say, "Yes it's good but we can't do it now"


[29-May-20 04:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Republicans will probably want to raise "concerns" over who can or can not get it, all the while indicating the free market is really the best option. Though the later is universal between the two in all but flavors and shit.


[29-May-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
okay I guess 80% isn't a great number, i'd have to cheack a few sources but 48% yes, 29% no 17% no commnet 7% "I don't know"


[29-May-20 04:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like, they'll suggest that we all like the insurance we get from our employers, which is right: we kind of do. But we only like it not because it's "good" but because we don't have to think about it. It is no longer a responsibility.


[29-May-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
still most people want it


[29-May-20 04:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Unlike Obamacare, which we do have to think about and it becomes a convoluted and frustrating responsibility because it is never the same every year.


[29-May-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
another poll, 46% repubs for m4a, 88% dems, 68% independents


[29-May-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not unpopular at the very least


[29-May-20 04:42 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[29-May-20 04:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[29-May-20 04:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[29-May-20 04:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>2020
>not having 2 months of food saved up
smh


[29-May-20 04:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He should move. into a cell.


[29-May-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/1266166402521522176

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HOLY SHIT. The cop who started the vandalizing was outted by people who know him. His name is Jacob Pederson of the St. Paul PD.
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[29-May-20 04:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The police need a complete cleanout.


[29-May-20 05:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My grandma is storing foods because she fears the India locusts


[29-May-20 05:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well Mao isn't dead so the sparrows aren't nearly extinct so maybe they'll keep the locusts in check.


[29-May-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently east Africa is getting ravaged by locusts as well


[29-May-20 05:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My grandma have lived through 2 famines


[29-May-20 05:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
One when she's only three, another when she got a job


[29-May-20 05:04 AM] jlun2#8758
I want to eat locust one day


[29-May-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
they apparently taste like shrimp


[29-May-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) so is that going to be on the news, or nah lets demonize minorities more


[29-May-20 05:06 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/crops-destroyed-india-faces-worst-locust-attack-27-years-200526160727430.html>
rip


[29-May-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hard to say


[29-May-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably wont be mentioned much in cable news, but could be in plenty of online news


[29-May-20 05:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
During the 1940s famine my grandma's family escaped to Xi'an and became beggars


[29-May-20 05:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
According to her description, all trees in the village have no bark because people ate them


[29-May-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Sounds right for a famine.


[29-May-20 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
The closest thing I can say like that is that during the great depression my grandpa and his brothers built barns.


[29-May-20 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
When grandpa wasn't being fucked by polio.


[29-May-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[29-May-20 05:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Then after the foundation of PRC, she said when she go to school, she often see dead or nearly dead babies by the path


[29-May-20 05:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of them are girls


[29-May-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah the Chinese gov't exported food for influence.


[29-May-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Soviets did the same thing.


[29-May-20 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Minneapolis Police station - or one of the precint stations - is being demolish as we speak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZaOGehK6k&feature=emb_logo

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[29-May-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It ends up starving the countryside, but it gets you diplomatic favors.


[29-May-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/politics/texas-supreme-court-blocks-vote-by-mail-expansion/index.html

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The Texas Supreme Court on Wednesday blocked a push to expand vote-by-mail to registered voters in the state amid the pandemic, saying that a lack of immunity to the coronavirus does not count as a "disability" for which a voter can apply for a mail-in ballot.
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[29-May-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, it's not really sustainable.


[29-May-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
After a few decades, the countryside is barren and can't produce much.


[29-May-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile fewer countries want food shipments.


[29-May-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you've got a problem where you need to put out propaganda that says you didn't starve the countryside.


[29-May-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
For *decades*.


[29-May-20 05:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Another famine is in 60s, it's better than the 40s one but still many people starved


[29-May-20 05:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Both are caused by locusts so my grandma fear the locusts as fuck


[29-May-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't that a result of Mao hating sparrows


[29-May-20 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
The 60's one: yes.


[29-May-20 05:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
The 40's one: I would assume because there was legit no centralized state.


[29-May-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wxii12.com/article/north-carolina-coronavirus-election-absentee-ballots/32692062

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[29-May-20 05:20 AM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang :sad: 
also I read china developed salt water rice <https://themindcircle.com/rice-grow-in-salt-water/>
is it wide spread 3 years later, or eternal trail period?


[29-May-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chinese people also ate all the river dolphins.


[29-May-20 05:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
You have in one third of the country in the 40's the KMT's fuckery, another Mao, and another third had Unit 731 and the Japanese rolling through killing shit for science.


[29-May-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of them.


[29-May-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My grandma believe corona is "a punishment from the heaven"


[29-May-20 05:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For modern people "waste too much food"


[29-May-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
so do trump supporters, but not because food waste.


[29-May-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
COVID-19 is a punishment from the earth for eating things with no regard to how they're produced.


[29-May-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, we hav to end meat.


[29-May-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giant cramped farms of animals and then cages on the streets with immediate butchery is terrible for hygiene.


[29-May-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Farmed meat is the future

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[29-May-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Farmed in a lab


[29-May-20 05:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's why our government is about to ban dog meat... most of dog meat in China isn't created in dog farms as in Korea. It's "dog recyclers" driving motor, pulling some cages, collecting homeless dogs or buying old dogs from their owners.


[29-May-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
The funny thing is that most of all this is an effect of the famine economy in the 60's and 70's.


[29-May-20 05:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
And retained because it was profitable.


[29-May-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wet markets exist because of that, yes


[29-May-20 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
A lot of the "traditional medicine" as I understand it arising around stuff like Pangolin blood and tiger teeth is by encouragement of the government to increase wet market sales.


[29-May-20 05:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "wet market"?


[29-May-20 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like most of what I know of actual traditional medical science in China is pretty basic stuff like, "drink liquid poo to vomit and expel poison"


[29-May-20 05:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You mean seafood market?


[29-May-20 05:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
> What is "wet market"?
@AlchemistLiang 

Meat markets, open air. The animal is retained live there in an open cage and killed on the spot and processed for the meat there for the customer.


[29-May-20 05:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[29-May-20 05:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Usually in the US by comparison we don't do live meat markets like these and an animal is killed and mostly processed in a safe and sanitized facility. The prepared carcass may be transported often to traditional butcher shops to be cut down to the cuts a customer wants, otherwise the meat has been dead for a day or two in a freezer at or below 0 degrees Fahrenheit.


[29-May-20 05:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've seen this kind of market when traveling in Guilin, but never seen in other places


[29-May-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
There's a few specialist butcher shops or preperation facilities to cater to halel and kosher needs of the respective Muslim and Jewish communities, but they have to go by the same rules as federal regulation plus added religious rites of course.


[29-May-20 05:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
The wet market is basically the "developing country" thing. It's all over in Africa.


[29-May-20 05:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'd argue it exists either because of an inability to establish the sort of regulatory character to have a western meat infrastructure, or an unwillingness.


[29-May-20 05:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
West African wet markets gave us HIV-AIDS, China gives us Coronaviruses apparently.


[29-May-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The African ones giv us Ebola too.


[29-May-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US if you own a cow you can't even butcher it on your own farm.


[29-May-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chickens (in an intensely scrutinized USDA approved slaughterhouse) yes, cows, no.


[29-May-20 05:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China you can kill cows, but can't sell it before safety cheched


[29-May-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes, African wet markets are the worst because bushmeat


[29-May-20 05:40 AM] illumnious#7938
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[29-May-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The market is basically what encourages wells of naturally occurring Ebola to keep being found


[29-May-20 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
> The African ones giv us Ebola too.
@Nebbie 

Ebola is literally nothing and is super easy to contain. It's not HIV tier, it's just a fancy news item.


[29-May-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but it's not nothing to Africa.


[29-May-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.


[29-May-20 05:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hiv is politically incorrect that it infects more gays than straights


[29-May-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
you all know what's coming


[29-May-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

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MOVE is a black liberation group founded in 1972 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania by John Africa (born Vincent Leaphart) and Donald Glassey, a social worker from the University of Pennsylvania. The name is not an acronym. The group lived in a communal setting in West Philadelphia...


[29-May-20 06:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-non-peaceful-action-on-taiwan-last-resort-2020-5

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China says non-peaceful action on Taiwan is last resort
Li Zhanshu, who is the head of China's parliament, said Beijing will use force as a last resort.
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[29-May-20 06:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> non-peaceful
that sounds like some weird machine translation


[29-May-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nbc4i/status/1266216805879644160

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https://twitter.com/nbc4i/status/1266216805879644160
BREAKING NOW: Protesters have broken into the Ohio Statehouse. Crowds gathered Thursday night to protest police brutality after the death of George Floyd, who died in Minneapolis police custody. Peaceful protests in Columbus escalated around 9:45 p.m.
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[29-May-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What's the source/credibility on Jacob Pederson being (at least one of) the firebrands for the vandalization


[29-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
no idea


[29-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's trending on twitter though


[29-May-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266231100780744704

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....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank ...
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[29-May-20 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ASB_Breaking/status/1266182888170631169

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URGENT: #Mineapolis damages: White man is seen breaking glass of the 1st burned down store (later on after he damaged it) in an attempt to turn the protest into a riot— Jacob Pedersen, a police officer: reportedly exposed by his own friends after they recognized him. #GeorgeF...
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[29-May-20 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the PD has apparently issued a response saying "it can't be him because our officer is a good boy"


[29-May-20 07:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, that's genuinely the defense they gave


[29-May-20 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
there's someone who unironically said the case was closed because the PD tweeted that


[29-May-20 07:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They didn't even say anything about investigating the identity of the man in the video, because officer or not this guy is on video inciting the riot. If they're not, that's a *hefty* hint that it is him, and they know it


[29-May-20 07:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No boilerplate "if anyone has information regarding the suspect please call this number" like you see literally all the time


[29-May-20 07:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Besides literally all of that, just look at his behavior in the video. He's not angry, he's not protesting, he's just casually smashing windows in without looking. Not to profile or anything, but that's not the attitude I'd expect from someone mad as hell and taking out their frustration *or* someone trying to call attention to himself


[29-May-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/26/youtube-china-comments-wumao-dang/

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YouTube says that an error caused comments critical of China’s gove...
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[29-May-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
well, we certainly know what google's priorities are


[29-May-20 07:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Uh huh


[29-May-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
their automated moderation system was auto-removing references to china's censorship efforts


[29-May-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/btn9r6/officer_told_him_to_shut_his_car_off_as_he/

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[29-May-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
jesus fucking christ


[29-May-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
he just randomly starts yelling GUN GUN GUN


[29-May-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
that dude probably would've gotten shot if he didn't have his hands out the window


[29-May-20 08:06 AM] byte[]#2610
s/probably/certainly


[29-May-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
he kept telling him to turn off the vehicle too


[29-May-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
which would be the perfect excuse to shoot


[29-May-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
because he could claim that the dude was reaching for a gun


[29-May-20 08:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-May-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gshk2t/new_angle_shows_3_kneeling_on_george_floyd/

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r/PublicFreakout - New angle shows 3 kneeling on George Floyd.
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[29-May-20 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
> HE EVEN BOUNCED ON THE BACK OF HIS NECK AS IF IT WAS A BOUNCY HOUSE, WHAT THE FLYING FUCK, WHY ARENT THEY IN PRISON, WHO THE HELL KNOWS


[29-May-20 10:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/technology/twitter-president-trump.html

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Twitter Places Warning on a Trump Tweet, Saying It Glorified Violence
The move by the social media platform is likely to spur more threats from the White House and criticism from the president’s supporters.
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[29-May-20 10:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-May-20 10:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So what does "when the looting starts the shooting starts" mean?


[29-May-20 10:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "looting"?


[29-May-20 10:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
robbing stores


[29-May-20 10:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Looting is stealing things.
Trump wants to shoot up the riots because some people are stealing things.


[29-May-20 10:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
big crowd go outside to avenge their brother and they crush everything on their way and some of them stealing stuff from stores and shit


[29-May-20 10:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[29-May-20 10:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

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1992 Los Angeles riots
The 1992 Los Angeles riots were a series of riots and civil disturbances that occurred in Los Angeles County in April and May 1992. Unrest began in South Central Los Angeles on April 29, after a trial jury acquitted four officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) for...
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[29-May-20 10:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
this is the best example


[29-May-20 10:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sounds like what happened in Hong Kong


[29-May-20 10:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But Hong Kong ones wear masks


[29-May-20 10:34 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
hong kong protests for their freedom


[29-May-20 10:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong does the best on controlling corona even with the worst population density


[29-May-20 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/KQPcEkB

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Disturbing and true.
https://i.imgur.com/jI1ULmHh.jpg


[29-May-20 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
a bit late


[29-May-20 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
considering that google has already walked it back


[29-May-20 11:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"a bug"


[29-May-20 11:54 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a good question tbh, especially the last bit about it _already having been banned_.


[29-May-20 11:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Google just wants to get YouTube into China for more and revenue.


[29-May-20 12:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kstp.com/news/protests-continue-in-twin-cities-st-paul-businesses-set-on-fire-may-28-2020/5744189/

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Minneapolis police 3rd Precinct building on fire; city asks those i...
Protests in the Twin Cities are continuing Thursday night after George Floyd's death ...
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[29-May-20 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/morninglive/status/1266306168198234113?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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The U.S National Guard has been called in to Minneapolis after a third night of violent protests over the death of a black man, George Floyd. A police station was set on fire in the same precinct where the officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck during an arrest had worked. https...
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[29-May-20 12:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1266303539472592902?s=20

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A Mississippi mayor is under fire after tweeting he “didn’t see anything unreasonable” in the video of George Floyd’s arrest, saying “if you can talk, you can breathe.” https://t.co/ShTxf0gmTM
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[29-May-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/new-video-shows-another-angle-of-george-floyd-being-restrained-by-police-84061253930

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New video shows another angle of George Floyd being restrained by p...
Disturbing new video shows another angle of George Floyd being restrained by police and saying he can't breathe before his death.
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[29-May-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/anime-reaction-headsmack-ugh-frustrated-gif-5015289

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[29-May-20 01:14 PM] illumnious#7938
Meirl


[29-May-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/05/29/minneapolis-protests-omar-jimenez-arrested-newday-vpx.cnn

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Minnesota police arrest CNN reporter Omar Jimenez and crew - CNN Video
CNN reporter Omar Jimenez was arrested along with his camera crew as they cover the protests following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.
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[29-May-20 01:42 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if anyone ever thought as posing from a different news agency.


[29-May-20 01:42 PM] Opponent#3498
like, say, Fox? :D


[29-May-20 01:43 PM] Opponent#3498
like, not outright _lie_ or anything, but don't be as explicit who you're with.


[29-May-20 01:44 PM] Opponent#3498
historically it probably wouldn't matter enough, but now times have changed.


[29-May-20 01:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
This is mega interesting because this is my home city :D


[29-May-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how does it keep getting worse every 5 minutes?


[29-May-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-May-20 02:01 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't know. There's just *so* much going on


[29-May-20 02:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's like a bad movie script where they couldn't decide where it was going so they just went everywhere


[29-May-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a dystopian novel


[29-May-20 02:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-May-20 02:10 PM] byte[]#2610
There's no way you could fit your knee on this guy's trachea but only because he's incredibly obese


[29-May-20 02:10 PM] Raptorshy#6268
He looks like he can't breathe

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[29-May-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
_this_ is the weak liberal major? With quotes like these?


[29-May-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
too liberal for Trump's taste huh


[29-May-20 02:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Obviously this man's neck is strong enough to survive under a knee


[29-May-20 02:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's even thicker than he's face


[29-May-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
**he is prepared**


[29-May-20 02:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1266334230876950529

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https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1266334230876950529
We can confirm that @OmarJimenez and the CNN crew arrested this morning in Minneapolis have been released.
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[29-May-20 02:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Eh... Why to arrest a journalist?


[29-May-20 02:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
He looks similar with a criminal too?


[29-May-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
To stop the story


[29-May-20 02:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or try to.


[29-May-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
to bury yourself even deeper :D


[29-May-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a wasted effort in an era of 24/7 online


[29-May-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no physical materials to confiscate


[29-May-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
but I guess they _would_ be living in the past.


[29-May-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
They kept the cammeras rolling when they detained it too which is hilarious


[29-May-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
And CNN kept broadcasting the detained cammera


[29-May-20 02:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Until the cops realized and shut it off


[29-May-20 02:23 PM] Opponent#3498
absolutely hysterical.


[29-May-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If it were fox they'd have high fived and asked for selfies


[29-May-20 02:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
Ten bucks they let Fox through because the Sinclair owned local stations over here in Michigan are certainly reporting.


[29-May-20 02:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266326065833824257

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Twitter is doing nothing about all of the lies & propaganda being put out by China or the Radical Left Democrat Party. They have targeted Republicans, Conservatives & the President of the United States. Section 230 should be revoked by Congress. Until then, it will be regulat...
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[29-May-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now we wait for the all caps tweet when twitter doesnt unfilter his tweet


[29-May-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-May-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

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CNN crew released from police custody after they were arrested live...
A CNN crew was arrested while giving a live television report Friday morning in Minneapolis -- and then released about an hour later -- as the crew covered ongoing protests over the death in police custody of George Floyd.
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[29-May-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
> CNN's Josh Campell, who also was in the area but not standing with the on-air crew, said he, too, was approached by police, but was allowed to remain.
> 
> "I identified myself ... they said, 'OK, you're permitted to be in the area,'" recounted Campbell, who is white. "I was treated much differently than (Jimenez) was."
> 
> Jimenez is black and Latino.
> 
> Former Philadelphia police commissioner Charles Ramsey, a CNN law enforcement analyst, said the arrest made no sense.
> 
> "State police are going to have a lot to answer for this arrest here," Ramsey said. "(Jimenez is) standing there ... you can see his credential. Just move him where you want to be."
> 
> "They should have a designated (media) area, and just tell them to move to that area."


[29-May-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
the reason they arrested that reporter was because of racism


[29-May-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
they had a white CNN reporter on the scene as well, but he was treated completely differently


[29-May-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
while the black and latino (double whammy) CNN reporter was arrested


[29-May-20 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They arrested the four of them


[29-May-20 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-May-20 02:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/itz_mill3r_time/status/1266221723659182086

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@sppdmn Why don’t ya’ll all watch this, and tell me an ex wife wouldn’t know her own equipment. And how her ex-husband talked. Listen and watch. WHOEVER it was here’s some evidence. Now release the patrol logs, his car ID, and his check in radio logs. #SomethingSmells #JacobP...
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[29-May-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
they start asking him if he's a cop lmao


[29-May-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
and then chanting "He's a cop! He's a cop!" at the end


[29-May-20 03:03 PM] illumnious#7938
One bloody word https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1266354084036194306?s=21

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CHINA!
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[29-May-20 03:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
GREEEAAT


[29-May-20 03:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The block of Discord is lifted!


[29-May-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the one word verbal diarrhea begins


[29-May-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-May-20 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He reposted it to the official WH, also got warned

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[29-May-20 04:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1266367168603721728

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This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, @Twitter has determined that it will allow terrorists, dictators, and foreign propagandists to abuse its platform.
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[29-May-20 04:19 PM] Crow#5457
but there's not a single thing about this that glorifies violence


[29-May-20 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump thinks "jihad" means murder


[29-May-20 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's the base-level american that only knows about islam from shows like 24 or Homeland


[29-May-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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A riot is the language of the unheard.
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[29-May-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/opinion/coronavirus-economy-death.html

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Opinion | On the Economics of Not Dying
What good is increasing G.D.P. if it kills you?
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[29-May-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
"What good is increasing G.D.P. if it kills you?"


[29-May-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I may have died in a gutter, but my team had a really high score!"


[29-May-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-May-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Caption: "White privilege"


[29-May-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.thedailybeast.com/laura-ingraham-tells-african-americans-that-trump-understands-police-violence-because-of-russia-probe

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Laura Ingraham to Black Americans: Trump Understands Police Violenc...
The Fox News host suggested Trump understood black pain over police brutality because he dealt with an “out-of-control FBI” during the Russia investigation.
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[29-May-20 05:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"Very fine people on both sides"


[29-May-20 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1266107980031954969

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Republican Voters Against Trump (@RVAT2020)
https://twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1266107980031954969
Jeff from Michigan has been a leader in the Republican Party. Hear him explain in his own words why his allegiance to Republican principles makes @jefftimmer a Republican voter against Trump. https://t.co/6nPZBD7ojT
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[29-May-20 05:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't vote republican. vote republican lite.


[29-May-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
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[29-May-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
I can't believe the zucc is dead


[29-May-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
:sad:


[29-May-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can't beleive planned obsolesence took him at the prime of his young robot life


[29-May-20 06:13 PM] jlun2#8758
where's the deepfakes of Mark boasting about him being pedo


[29-May-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
i cant tiktok text


[29-May-20 06:15 PM] jlun2#8758
(well i can, but ew)


[29-May-20 06:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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Spudgun20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFO8nUPQ6s
30 Miles to Barnard Castle - Dreams
In April, Dominic Cummings went for a drive to Barnard Castle on his wifes birthday, with his child in the car, to test his eyesight. A trip of 30 miles there, 30 back. Here is an accurate reconstruction of said trip created in the PS4 game Dreams
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[29-May-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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Barack Obama (@BarackObama)
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1266400635429310466
My statement on the death of George Floyd:
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[29-May-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
50K RT/141K likes


[29-May-20 06:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What about that thing Obama done?!?!


[29-May-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
obummergayte


[29-May-20 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
http://www.weaskamerica.com/surveys/missouri-statewide-general-election-survey-results

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Missouri Statewide General Election Survey Results — We Ask America
We Ask America, a nationally recognized polling firm, today released the first in a series of 2020 statewide public opinion polls from across the country.
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[29-May-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Trump, Biden Knotted in Missouri"

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[29-May-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri always polls like this, but the GOP always is around ten to fifteen points ahead in the election


[29-May-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's because they only poll the metros, which are the only wells of Democratic votes in the state


[29-May-20 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1266380510344949761?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1266380510344949761?s=21
The National Guard has arrived on the scene. They are in Minneapolis and fully prepared. George Floyd will not have died in vain. Respect his memory!!!
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[29-May-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He died so police could kill mroe black people! Your rioting will not tarnish his good death!"


[29-May-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I am so confused with the wording in this tweet... is he for  the police or the protesters?


[29-May-20 06:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"very fine people on both sides"


[29-May-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this tweet makes it sound liek he;s for the protestors but also against them at the same time


[29-May-20 06:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the chloroquine he's taking


[29-May-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-guidlines-postcards-cost-struggling-post-office-28-million-2020-5

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The White House's coronavirus postcards cost the struggling Post Of...
It's yet another complication for President Trump's strained relationship with the federal agency, which receives no taxpayer funding.
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[29-May-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The 130 million postcards sent to American households in March containing "President Trump's coronavirus guidelines for America" cost the struggling Post Office $28 million, further complicating the White House's strained relationship with the independent federal agency.
> 
> A Postal Service representative confirmed to Business Insider that the mailers, which were decried by government watchdog groups at the time as self-promotion, cost $4.6 million to print and another $23.4 million to mail. That's a tiny sliver of the USPS' 2019 revenue of $71 billion, but couldn't come at a worse time, as the agency's finances have been ruined by the coronavirus pandemic.


[29-May-20 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266387743996870656

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266387743996870656
REVOKE 230!
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[29-May-20 07:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Revoke what


[29-May-20 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
communications decency act


[29-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```I am so confused with the wording in this tweet... is he for  the police or the protesters?```


[29-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Floyd died so that the traitors and parasites could be brought out into the light.


[29-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
he's for Americans. 🇺🇸


[29-May-20 07:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The thing at allows pretty much any user interaction with a website


[29-May-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act

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Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA) of 1996 (a common name for Title V of the Telecommunications Act of 1996) is a landmark piece of Internet legislation in the United States, codified at 47 U.S.C. § 230. Section 230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for p...


[29-May-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Section 230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an "interactive computer service" who publish information provided by third-party users:


[29-May-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Social media shouldn't be able to have their cake and eat it too"- argument I see


[29-May-20 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You're taking away one of the fundamental rights to property with this EO


[29-May-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This would basically wipe out the internet as a whole


[29-May-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How am I supposed to have a website that promotes a specific political stance?


[29-May-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And doesn't accept shitposts from people trying to ruin it?


[29-May-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I run a pro-gun website


[29-May-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why _should_ I have to have gun control advocates on it?


[29-May-20 07:28 PM] jlun2#8758
can he even do that


[29-May-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[29-May-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only congress can repeal an article like that


[29-May-20 07:29 PM] jlun2#8758
will Gop support him on this


[29-May-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not likely given what 230 is


[29-May-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be career, financial, and political suicide


[29-May-20 07:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the internet is a useful tool for them, repealing 230 would basically kill the internet and any of their online influence with it


[29-May-20 07:31 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought they only care about short term trump support tho


[29-May-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thewy also care about who's paying them and their campaigns


[29-May-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which unsurprisingly includes a lot of tech companies, ISPs, and website owners


[29-May-20 07:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all 3 of whom would be dead in the water if 230 got repealed


[29-May-20 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
killing the internet is also like sending a nuke straight into the heart of the economy and stock market


[29-May-20 07:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden wants 230 gone as well, jsyk


[29-May-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dammit biden...


[29-May-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Expecting any of the people in congress to understand what it means is asking a lot


[29-May-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least if Trump promotes revoking it it'll make democrats defend it as a simple reaction


[29-May-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder https://i.redd.it/67dh8vutqlw41.jpg

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[29-May-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda the difference between police and organised crime


[29-May-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
good publicity


[29-May-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kttc.com/2020/05/29/breaking-officer-who-knelt-on-george-floyds-neck-arrested/

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BREAKING: Officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck charged with 3rd...
Minnesota authorities have confirmed that Derek Chauvin has been arrested.
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[29-May-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now let;s see if the judge upholds the charges or decides to fuck over the case


[29-May-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://ethics.org.au/free-speech-has-failed-us/

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Free speech has failed us
Dr Tim Dean used to be a passionate advocate of free speech. He explains why he has reexamined that view and the dangers he sees in enabling hate speech.
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[29-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> Mill assumed all too readily that such good will was commonplace.
he must be those lucky folks that never got bullied every day during high school. also what is with the preveiw pic?


[29-May-20 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone using the power of the force to undo the guy's hair


[29-May-20 08:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
They probably got it off Getty images


[29-May-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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A tea party is the language of the unheard
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[29-May-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/AwkC9wQX3Q9qy0uK2vpu6tA

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CDC quietly revised coronavirus warnings on reopening religious sit...
"This guidance is not intended to infringe on rights protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution," the new guidance says.
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[29-May-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/george-floyd-cop-involved-his-death-worked-security-same-minneapolis-club-owner-says-1507341

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George Floyd and the cop involved in his death worked security at s...
The club owner said she does not know whether Floyd or former police officer Derek Chauvin, who pinned Floyd down with his knee, ever spoke to each other while employed by her.
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[29-May-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehardtimes.net/opinion/opinion-maybe-that-police-station-shouldnt-have-broken-the-law/

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Maybe That Police Station Shouldn’t Have Broken the Law
As an American, I believe in the constitution. I believe in law and order. I don’t see race. I see Americans. What happened in Minneapolis is a shame. What happened to that Autozone, that Target, and the other stores that were vandalized in response to the murder of George Flo...
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[29-May-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
> I’m probably the least prejudiced person you will ever meet but look at the statistics. Who is it exactly committing all of these cold-blooded racially motivated murders? Blue people, plain and simple.

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[29-May-20 10:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
fuckin' blue people :trixdisgust:


[29-May-20 10:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Police as a race of its own? Based


[29-May-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
One person sent me this shitpost
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[29-May-20 10:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[]

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[29-May-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
> "despite being only a fraction of a percentage of the population, police commit a significantly higher number of homicides"

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[29-May-20 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
would be  hillarious if actually correct


[29-May-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-May-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/state-rep-goes-profanity-laced-173013924.html

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"I've spent so much of my time here trying to see beyond the blind, disgusting partisanship, and now that partisanship has grown deadly," state Rep. Brian Sims said
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[29-May-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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RAW IMAGINE
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Brian Sims slam Republican colleagues over keeping their COVID-19 e...
The Pennsylvania state representative alleges a Republican colleague tested positive and did not inform Democrats for weeks.
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[30-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Conservative in Four Pictures


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[30-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-May-20 12:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-May-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry, five.

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[30-May-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
He probably has tons of lesbo pics in his folders


[30-May-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
esp. of Elsa


[30-May-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's pretty obviously gay.


[30-May-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I don't mean that in a "Oh he likes fashion and shit"


[30-May-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy posted porn of himself on video sharing sites.


[30-May-20 12:27 AM] Opponent#3498
hell, I'd welcome a canon FxF ship. The art would explode in both quality and quantity.


[30-May-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
1: Putting leftist views on a pedestal by putting them in children's stuff instead of conservative views means you're just trying to make conservatives be the ones who'll be in gas chambers!
2: These people have poor taste, so we should hate them even more if they do bad things.
3: Other races are inferior.
4: 1, but shorter.
5: It's okay to be a raging dictator ready to burn people alive, as long as they're leftists, or worse, centrists who are spouting actual truths that might lead to leftist thought.


[30-May-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent too bad it would almost be a minor thing rather than a legit character arc. also written by some straight dude who's only experience with gays is porn or media stereotypes


[30-May-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-May-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[30-May-20 12:32 AM] jlun2#8758
why is "kill yourself" and varients not auto ban


[30-May-20 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
because it's weaksause and pathetic.


[30-May-20 12:32 AM] Opponent#3498
also suicide is an escape so it's not even a bad thing to offer.


[30-May-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
re: frozen thing 1) that goes for any media, including FiMfiction. Simply by statistics, you're likely to get a straight dude with no experience of actual lesbial relationship. Tough cookie. 2) Do note, I don't care about the movie, but the inevitable reaction of community benefits me, so I welcome it.


[30-May-20 12:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Who?


[30-May-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie This guy lives in Illinois but really wants to live in/move to Florida


[30-May-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But basically hates the fact that Florida would be full of brown people


[30-May-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lesbian stuff gets a lot of bad art too because even hardcore conservatives want to see women go at it.


[30-May-20 12:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
What you really want for quality is gay relationships.


[30-May-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put two semi-attractive guys together and watch the quality shoot thru the roof as all the normies flee.


[30-May-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
also true.


[30-May-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie  :nut:


[30-May-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was also the guy who complained that TikTok was stealing your data, while being on Instagram.


[30-May-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking same idiot probably quit Facebook to join Instagram


[30-May-20 12:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Only America is allowed to steal my data.


[30-May-20 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
🇺🇸


[30-May-20 12:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mission Hill probably inspired some amazing artwork.


[30-May-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, he loves dressing up as Samus.

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[30-May-20 12:41 AM] jlun2#8758
yes. that gross middle aged man trope with another man


[30-May-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a faithful rendition of the characters.


[30-May-20 12:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mission Hill characters weren't drawn to look pretty.


[30-May-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the actual show https://66.media.tumblr.com/b465f93027ab0eb6044b05d09b1e8426/tumblr_p1hxpaZHsD1qi1yy5o4_400.png

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[30-May-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
looked like a conservative caricature tbh xD


[30-May-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(that's them when they were younger, too)


[30-May-20 12:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mission Hill was okay.


[30-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't modern intentionally ugly, which is super mega ugly "haha do you get it they make disgusting faces, laugh now" basically


[30-May-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Etc

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[30-May-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah Gus is pretty much the untermensch


[30-May-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow.


[30-May-20 12:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Same artist

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[30-May-20 12:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking looks like an American version of the "ugly middle aged man" in hentai


[30-May-20 12:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also in case you didn't expect it, the guy I posted got banned off of Twitter years ago and claims to be a centrist.


[30-May-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why does everything need to be political" he cries, forgetting he mentioned he loves Trump


[30-May-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He means "political" in a very different sense than you or I.


[30-May-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I don't judge people by their political views" when he's ended friendships over people not liking Trump


[30-May-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He means it like the people who tell us to go into this channel posting science articles.


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He views conservatism as the default.


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's only "political" if you are suggesting we alter the one true path.


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't like Isabelle


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if it's just because she was overplayed, or because she is canonically bisexual.


[30-May-20 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking it's not political. He's simply sexually attracted to Trump, he admires his third chin and so is touchy about his husbando.


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing unusual here.


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the I Don't Like Mondays thing, @Itsthinking?


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"OMG all I said was that the Nazis were kind of hot"


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
What he means is like


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not political to say you don't like Mondays


[30-May-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's political to say that we should change the work week


[30-May-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in a furious debate about whether Mondays are good and whether we should change


[30-May-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
he would say the side saying "Mondays bad, no change" aren't expressing a view.


[30-May-20 12:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"It is silly to start a week with day off. Sunday is weekday now."


[30-May-20 12:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I hate sundays now.


[30-May-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone saying "Mondays good, no change", however, he'd consider to be


[30-May-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they're defying the norm


[30-May-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're straying from the approved path.


[30-May-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[30-May-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He views whether an action is "political" in the same way the legal system considers whether something is an "assault"


[30-May-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-defense isn't assault.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So something that's really weird here is how you can tell his political stance from his gaming tastes.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you tear someone limb from limb.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not weird at all, really.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He has very, very, particular tastes.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For example, he won't play a game set in the summer during the winter.


[30-May-20 12:51 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds like those ocd ppl


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure if you tear someone limb from limb at some point it stops being self defense


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Depends.


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's his basic view


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
any action to defend the status quo


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If someone is threatening you with a gun and you fight back, get the gun from them, restrain them, and put a bullet through their head


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the conservative status quo, not society's actual


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
"if i played a summer game in winter it's just obviously wrong! why can't you people understand !?"


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
is to him apolitical


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your self defense argument is weak


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I do notice that a lot of Nintendo guys seem to lean to the right.


[30-May-20 12:52 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony  oh rip me

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[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
To him, saying "Trump is our god-given savior" isn't political


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People perceive Nintendo as apolitical, that's why


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nintendo doesn't press you on hard questions


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It never has storylines that make you think about right and wrong.


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well they did


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Miyamoto went no


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
You play as the morally right all the time hero and you kill the bad guys.


[30-May-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So it stopped


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
which game


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guessing Paper Mario


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like when Epic Mickey was in development and the devs wanted to give it a real paragon/renegade system


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Disney was basically like "Mickey would never do anything actually evil, no"


[30-May-20 12:54 AM] jlun2#8758
that went over my head then


[30-May-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even in modern Mario, you have "enemy" characters that are regular basically non-evil characters


[30-May-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But it of course never asks you why you've killed so many


[30-May-20 12:56 AM] jlun2#8758
because fun ofc


[30-May-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haha evil guy go bye bye


[30-May-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mama mia


[30-May-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[30-May-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Missouri poll

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[30-May-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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Arby’s no long has the meats #Minneapolisprotests
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[30-May-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
> The thin vanilla line


[30-May-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
> It’s actually mayo out of one of those squeeze bottles.


[30-May-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
> Absolutely necessary. Now Trump will have no choice but to identify the fine people on both sides.

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[30-May-20 02:34 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://i.redd.it/98g2b7cvhr151.jpg
@byte[]  

Is that the Minneapolis case?

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[30-May-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeah


[30-May-20 02:34 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Yeah thought so


[30-May-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazil just overtook spain in virus deaths, one day away from overtaking France


[30-May-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gone from something like 4k to 28k in two weeks, christ


[30-May-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
what


[30-May-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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[30-May-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
So


[30-May-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
When does Brazil overtake US?


[30-May-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At this rate, July easy


[30-May-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 03:02 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm surprised it took almost 1/2 year for Brazil to start.


[30-May-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
"No wait, not like that!"


[30-May-20 03:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump is a spy from People's Liberation Army confirmed


[30-May-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minnesota blakks: We got u fam! 🔥


[30-May-20 03:09 AM] illumnious#7938
well sheeeit https://twitter.com/i/events/1265874933432737792

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Fourth night of protests over death of George Floyd is underway
Hundreds of people gathered in cities across the US on Friday to kick off what is expected to be another eventful night of similar demonstrations around the country. The White House went under lockdown as protesters outside chanted George Floyd’s name. On Friday, Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said Chauvin has been charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter.
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[30-May-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
we gonna rock down to electric avenue


[30-May-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
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These were peaceful protests until...
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[30-May-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
spoiler alert: cops pepper spray the crowd


[30-May-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
third-degree murder, though...I find it to be a bit of a stretch to think his intent was not to kill


[30-May-20 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
PA doesn't have that stipulation


[30-May-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
Ben garrison makes reasonable comic? Nuts


[30-May-20 03:17 AM] illumnious#7938
Isn't that guy who made those Donald Trump comics


[30-May-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also apparent history between the cop and the victim, so it may have also been premeditated


[30-May-20 03:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno ben kinda looks like you're in the "he's only in trouble 'cause he got caught" camp when it comes to cops


[30-May-20 03:18 AM] Honahue#0656
Ben doesn't like cops in general


[30-May-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they supposedly worked security for the same night club


[30-May-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/george-floyd-cop-involved-his-death-worked-security-same-minneapolis-club-owner-says-1507341

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George Floyd and the cop involved in his death worked security at s...
The club owner said she does not know whether Floyd or former police officer Derek Chauvin, who pinned Floyd down with his knee, ever spoke to each other while employed by her.
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[30-May-20 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 03:25 AM] jlun2#8758
social media is a mistake for politics


[30-May-20 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
social media is a mistake [2]


[30-May-20 03:27 AM] jlun2#8758
but how would i find like minded fetishists :sad:


[30-May-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mike_winick/status/1265990698110791681

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@Idle0ats @charliekirk11 The Boston Tea Party happened after years of protests fell on the deaf ears of the King and Parliament. It was the only avenue left.
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[30-May-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[30-May-20 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 Rediscover zines


[30-May-20 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
:TRN:


[30-May-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/fernalfonso/status/1266512702958112768

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[30-May-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
shit's getting crazy tho


[30-May-20 03:32 AM] illumnious#7938
what's next? FOX News and OANN?


[30-May-20 03:46 AM] jlun2#8758
doubt it. they have their orange man supporters as meat shields


[30-May-20 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I think Fox is in NYC and they still in lockdown


[30-May-20 03:47 AM] jlun2#8758
what is breaking their glass even going to do? i doubt they're going to set things on fire there


[30-May-20 03:49 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Don’t doubt it


[30-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You break the glass to make extra entrances.


[30-May-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means less cramming of the crowd in getting in, and less ability for them to use chokepoints to stop or blokk you.


[30-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you light the fires.


[30-May-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The size of the crowd ensures they can't use much force to stop you while you're doing so.


[30-May-20 03:52 AM] jlun2#8758
is this the "anti lockdown" protestors or the cop ones?


[30-May-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cop ones.


[30-May-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
As far as they are concerned, CNN just perpetuates the status quo, and all must burn.


[30-May-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[30-May-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
dancing white old men gif here


[30-May-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I don't personally care what football players are doing, but I find the idea of "taking a knee" at a football game ironic because the statement they're pushing is America is unfair and wildly racist - I disagree. America is not perfect, but no country has made greater progress on equality than the USA. Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost fighting to end slavery. I would also point out it was Republicans leaders that mostly fought to end it btw."


[30-May-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
>  I would also point out it was Republicans leaders that mostly fought to end it btw.
then a century later it got switched. life is stupid


[30-May-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern GOP strategy is erasing the Southern Strategy from existence.


[30-May-20 04:19 AM] Midknight#9798
But still hanging on to those voters 😛


[30-May-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans today would have been Democrats during the Civil War.


[30-May-20 04:19 AM] Midknight#9798
Eeyup.


[30-May-20 04:20 AM] Midknight#9798
That's why the moment things turn to what democrats did during the civil war era, I immediately lose all respect for the person using that particular red herring


[30-May-20 04:21 AM] Midknight#9798
This becomes mentally assigned as their pfp.

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[30-May-20 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's safe to say that the south has in fact risen again and this time it's trying to destroy America from within instead of without


[30-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let the erring sisters go in peace.


[30-May-20 04:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
As someone who lives in the south


[30-May-20 04:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They're too lazy to do anything


[30-May-20 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
by design


[30-May-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He agreed with this statement


[30-May-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Your political opinion doesn't say anything about you. Anyone who's been around a while knows that."


[30-May-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your political opinion _is_ you


[30-May-20 04:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/person-who-partied-at-the-lake-of-the-ozarks-over-memorial-day-tests-positive-for-covid-19

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A person who spent Memorial Day weekend at bars and pool parties at the Lake of the Ozarks tested positive for COVID-19, the Camden County, Mo., Health Department announced on Friday.The person, who is a Boone County, Mo., resident, arrived in the area on Sa...
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[30-May-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only it were ethical to refuse service to them.


[30-May-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason he agreed with that is he thinks you can hav any opinion you want, as long as you don't express the wrong one.


[30-May-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants everyone to shut up and play along.


[30-May-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same deal as being gay.


[30-May-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't want to hunt down the gays, they want to hunt down any that act gay.


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wear the beard or die, basically.


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
>  as long as you don't express the wrong one.
that sounds highly stressful


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, by design.


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
meant the ppl ordering that (everything is sin nothing is right reeeeeeeeeeee)


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[30-May-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If liberals, those they fight for, etc. are in constant fear, then it keeps them down and hurts them.


[30-May-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
as a person with intrusive thoughts that feeling never goes away even if everything is "right"; you just find something else wrong forever


[30-May-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always assumed conservatives hated "acting gay" to mean like, they hated people who were flamboyant


[30-May-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought the stance now was basically "Be exactly like me except you're married to a man and not a woman"


[30-May-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahah no


[30-May-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hate marrying another man


[30-May-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be as flamboyant as you want.


[30-May-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the super girlish guy to also marry a girl and wear a suit and tie


[30-May-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
and go to work


[30-May-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
as the sole moneymaker.


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, being gay is a disability.


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even in the 50s housewifes sometimes had part time jobs.


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the disabled should be put to work.


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tupperware parties, typists, and seamstresses


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, and retail


[30-May-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, heavily segregated.


[30-May-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, I enjoy looking at people who are so ignorant of history that it is comical.


[30-May-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh but history is biased"


[30-May-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Making them not ignorant of history won't do anything.


[30-May-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will just say the Romans are all burning in hell etc.


[30-May-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American history was basically dominated by Southerners until like the mid 1960s


[30-May-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The world was literally perfect after WW2 until the damn commies caused trouble in the 80s and Reagan had to fix America


[30-May-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reconstruction was taught as a failure


[30-May-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Civil rights were taught as a failure


[30-May-20 05:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/ChrisBishopL1C4/status/1266546753182056453?s=20

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This just happened on live tv. Wow, what a douche bag. https://t.co/dQKheEcCvb
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[30-May-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No coughing, or you don't get to be a lawyer

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[30-May-20 05:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@illumnious Cops be like: FEMOID SPOTTED. TARGET ACQUIRED. STATUS: UNABUSED


[30-May-20 05:30 AM] illumnious#7938
oh wait https://twitter.com/Dakarai_Turner/status/1266549838788902914?s=20

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CNN just showed video from Los Angeles of an make officer getting beat by a crowd after attempting to detain someone. What is happening around the country tonight is HISTORIC. https://t.co/SSDOf97hSt
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[30-May-20 05:30 AM] illumnious#7938
they fucking deserved that shit


[30-May-20 05:30 AM] illumnious#7938
LET THAT SHIT BURN BITCH


[30-May-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[30-May-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 05:51 AM] illumnious#7938
America


[30-May-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Loss


[30-May-20 05:53 AM] illumnious#7938
meanwhile at the shit house https://twitter.com/HaleyMSanders/status/1266553577767669761?s=20

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At the White House #dcprotest https://t.co/waMMSfPnMZ
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[30-May-20 05:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://github.com/nhsx/COVID-19-app-Android-BETA/issues/49

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No longer Open Source? · Issue #49 · nhsx/COVID-19-app-Android-BETA
The source code here is &quot;1.0.0&quot;, and was published 3 weeks ago. However the published binary is actively being updated, as recently as yesterday. Was the source a one time release...
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[30-May-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tories are scum.


[30-May-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/VitalistInt/status/1265815107566739457

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RIGHT NOW: protesters in Los Angeles are smashing a police cruiser after it drove into the #GeorgeFloydWasMurdered protest
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[30-May-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1266575038771331073

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Right now at the White House protesters are ripping away the barricades that surround the building.

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[30-May-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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they’re fighting the police for the barricade at the White House https://t.co/eT8BrM40Z0
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[30-May-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
General bad idea, WH has fucking machinegun nests and snipers...


[30-May-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What are you going to do, mow people down?


[30-May-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you do, they win.


[30-May-20 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump in the WH seeing a bunch of people running through the lawn? You bet your ass he'd order them mowed down


[30-May-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You win the battle, they win the war.


[30-May-20 06:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump tried to ban the fucking internet within two hours of Twitter slapping him on the wrist


[30-May-20 06:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think he knows what a "long term plan" looks like


[30-May-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
I really doubt Trump is in the WH right now


[30-May-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the weekend, he's probably golfing.


[30-May-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That guy's rant earlier, continued


[30-May-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone says he has white privilege


[30-May-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Ah yes growing up in a poor household where our power would be turned off and we would have to boil water on the stove to take a bath, my sister's schooling being unpaid and my father cheating on my mother. I am MAJORLY privileged and you clearly didn't just judge me by the color of my skin."


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
>boil water on the stove to take a bath


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay that's not feasible.


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was a torts hypothetical that I wrote a few days ago.


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just take a cold bath, jesus


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, his sister's schooling being unpaid? What the hell does that mean?


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or, like, shower


[30-May-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wth


[30-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is he saying his sister took on college debt


[30-May-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so his family should be pitied?


[30-May-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And I mean this exact situation of the stuff being turned off/poorly maintained so the water was boiled on the stove then bad thing happened


[30-May-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Guys I'm microwaving the water I need for my daily bath, I don't understand why my electricity bill is 250 USD?!"


[30-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bath takes 10 fukking GALLONS of water.


[30-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if boiling is 50/50 to get a decent warm temperature, that's 5 gallons boiled on the stove.


[30-May-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He is 33.


[30-May-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would take all day.


[30-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I can't think of any alternative for the sister thing


[30-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless he's saying she went to a private school and the family took on debt for it


[30-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is AGAINST what he's trying to argue


[30-May-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
fukker is basically saying "we went into debt a bit using advantages no blakk family would hav, and debt collectors never came for us"


[30-May-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By the time he was in his late teens


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
His argument has defeated itself.


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His family was clearly well off enough that he played a lot of new Gamecube games


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a feeling they had plenty of money


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He said he was an Animal Crossing fan from day one, 2002


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just didn't like to pay bills on time.


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He would have been 18


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, mom buys a new dishwasher instead of paying the bill for private schooling for the daughter.


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause her old dishwasher started to look dated.


[30-May-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh shit


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That makes too much sense


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dady buys himself a saxophone instead of paying the electric bill.


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll spend $900 on designer sneakers and think it's worth it


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As an adult


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weeelp.


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
shit


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
$900


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
why


[30-May-20 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
I can't


[30-May-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also I think he meant "My sister went to public school"


[30-May-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
not the onion https://headtopics.com/us/experts-say-george-floyd-s-death-once-again-shows-police-officers-should-be-banned-from-crushing-peo-13285014

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[30-May-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So do 3/4 of all Americans


[30-May-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also yes, even if his story is true, still privilege


[30-May-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Only 75%? That's much lower than I thought


[30-May-20 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen a lot of people claim they had to boil water for bath water, never realized how little sense it makes


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
it makes no sense whatsoever


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone believes "went to a public school" and "had unpaid schooling" are synonymous


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are privileged as fukk.


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also has none of the typical signifiers of actual poverty (can't get enough to eat etc)


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like they believe they are *entitled* to a for-profit private school


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think his dad was just a deadbeat who was shitty


[30-May-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and didn't pay bills


[30-May-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electric kettles boil water faster than gas stoves.


[30-May-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hold about 1.5L of water max


[30-May-20 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most Americans don't own them


[30-May-20 06:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're also worse in the US because lower voltage


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
it would take more than 2 fillings to get a single gallon of water


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
poverty is not just being unable to eat, but frequently also wondering where you're going to spend the night and if your things will be present when you get there


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need 5 gallons of boiling water for a bath


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
that's over 10 fillings


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like an hour


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, gas stoves are *slower*.


[30-May-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't boil water for a bath.


[30-May-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you are building a damn fire underneath the bathtub.


[30-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
electric water heaters are a real oddity


[30-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
they are typically much less efficient than gas water heaters


[30-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
and more expensive too


[30-May-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
not sure why you'd want one if you had a gas line


[30-May-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's because in some areas, there's a severe monopoly on gas.


[30-May-20 06:48 AM] byte[]#2610
note that I'm talking about the tank water heaters here, instantaneous induction water heaters are actually of comparable efficiency


[30-May-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
but you _still_ might prefer a gas fired instantaneous because it's just overall a way simpler device


[30-May-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
they've been making them since the early 1900s


[30-May-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately I'd say pretty confidently that he's literally complaining that "dad sometimes spent money on sneakers instead of electricity, and sister went to a PUBLIC school"


[30-May-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he's just like his dad.


[30-May-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also thinks his dad cheating on his mom is a sign of poverty, because he knows it's a bad thing, and thus a blakk/poor thing, @Itsthinking


[30-May-20 06:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes too much sense


[30-May-20 06:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/30/church-reopenings-supreme-court-refuses-force-governors-hands/5281999002/

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The battle reached the court days before Pentecost Sunday, when churches restricted during recent lockdowns are eager to greet congregants.
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[30-May-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately, what he's really saying is...


[30-May-20 06:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Roberts broke ranks


[30-May-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's not privileged because his dad passed on being kind of like a blakk person to him.


[30-May-20 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
well obviously nebbie if he was black he wouldn't know his father


[30-May-20 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
:twiright:


[30-May-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
lel


[30-May-20 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It even explains why he became all artsy and shit


[30-May-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
tell him he's privileged cause of that.


[30-May-20 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So much makes sense, but not his anti Asian racism


[30-May-20 07:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless he like, blames Nintendo HQ for taking away his brand deal which they didn't, it was the American branch


[30-May-20 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably a Jontron case.


[30-May-20 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of how he got his politics I mean


[30-May-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He probably kept seeing Asian peers beat him and his sister at stuff in school.


[30-May-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In suburban Chicago?


[30-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[30-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asians hav a big advantage cause they know how to raise kids due to passed-down cultural practices.


[30-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They tend to proctice authoritative parenting.


[30-May-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if there's only a few, and thus no real community for communal raising of kids, the strict rules with good reasons lead to high achievement.


[30-May-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought US already have heli parents tho?


[30-May-20 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Heli parents that blame everyone but themselves


[30-May-20 07:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why is my kid not getting an A" to the teacher, not "Why didn't you get an A" to the kid


[30-May-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heli parents aren't Asian parents.


[30-May-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heli parents giv no room to breathe, and tend to enforce arbitrary rules based on the belief that children deserve nothing, they're the parents, so they get to make up rules to force children to be what they want.


[30-May-20 07:10 AM] jlun2#8758
become a mod pic meme here


[30-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heli parents will do shit like install site-blokking on the router and tell the kid what movies not to watch.


[30-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
All while not doing anything to encourage learning, just making the kid hate everything school-related.


[30-May-20 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I had an internet curfew


[30-May-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually kids rebel and get screwed.


[30-May-20 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, that was pretty much it


[30-May-20 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, midnight, router gets turned off


[30-May-20 07:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(not like I didn't learn lockpicking to circumvent that)


[30-May-20 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/537160060682924032

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[30-May-20 07:12 AM] byte[]#2610
(2014)


[30-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Asian parents usually make up rules about actually doing your homework.


[30-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very little "because I said so"


[30-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, the classic American attitude of doing whatever to shut up the kids is dead wrong on parenting.


[30-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the opposite of the authoritarian parenting style is the neglectful one...which is the "YouTube as babysitter" model.


[30-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental trouble is both arbitrary rules and leaving the kids alone giv the kids the impression the parents don't care.


[30-May-20 07:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie does that apply to conservatives too? ie. they power trip over the kids, which make them hate church?


[30-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is really really bad.


[30-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[30-May-20 07:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lord, my parents never hassled me over my homework or studying


[30-May-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 4th parenting style is permissive. It givs kids the impression parents care...but without structure, they tend to just do whatever and not develop well.


[30-May-20 07:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The most direct action on my studies they ever imposed was my mom promising I could use my accumulated allowance money on buying a 3rd hand computer if I kept my grades over 80%


[30-May-20 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I think that's doing it right


[30-May-20 07:17 AM] byte[]#2610
You got lucky in the family lottery


[30-May-20 07:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_Extremely_ lucky, yes


[30-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Positive rewards for good behavior is the best parents can do.


[30-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Punishments are much less effective, shaming is actively hurtful, etc.


[30-May-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
what I learned in my psych class is that when it comes to operant conditioning punishments are almost universally unproductive because it's while it's easy to get the person to link the "wrong" behavior with the punishment it also doesn't give them any guidance on how to do the "right" behavior


[30-May-20 07:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At a point the punished relish it


[30-May-20 07:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They constantly try to push the limit, toe the line


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then when they hit it it's almost like a reward


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know why, I always felt self motivated as a kid


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When do most kids learn to read?


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah so that's another thing that's a big problem for operant conditioning with punishments


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends on what you mean by read


[30-May-20 07:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> it also doesn't give them any guidance on how to do the "right" behavior
can confirm; am idiot and don't get social cues


[30-May-20 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the distinction between whether something is a punishment or a reward is completely determined by the subject


[30-May-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like give a kid a book and they look at it and can say what's in it


[30-May-20 07:22 AM] byte[]#2610
they may enjoy being "punished" and so it serves as reinforcment instead

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[30-May-20 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was reading encyclopaedias at 3, but probably storytime books at 2


[30-May-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I was reading at 3 or so yeah


[30-May-20 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My niece was reading storytime stuff at 2, sort of


[30-May-20 07:23 AM] RYDE#8862
I do get punished before by my parents. They also blocked most of the sites that have NSFW stuff.


[30-May-20 07:26 AM] jlun2#8758
that's how i got into fanfics


[30-May-20 07:27 AM] jlun2#8758
so i could look at porn with parents not knowing


[30-May-20 07:28 AM] RYDE#8862
I do fanfic too. But they caught me anyway.


[30-May-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[30-May-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
incognito forever


[30-May-20 07:28 AM] RYDE#8862
I know...


[30-May-20 07:28 AM] RYDE#8862
Sadly I wish.


[30-May-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Hey girl, are you a cop?
Because you've taken my breath away


[30-May-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
> Don't be a pain in the neck, dude


[30-May-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
> Joke so dark, the cops shot it


[30-May-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/o3v8ps7rat151

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Police start shooting press with some kinda rubber bullets
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[30-May-20 08:55 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
At this point the pllice saying fuck it and going full blitzkrieg


[30-May-20 08:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.pscp.tv/w/caCpbjFwempNQmtBeXFhRWR8MU9kSnJxRGJ5a3lHWPRk_OVSv6fdx6Afk0dVA3-ZKaAXHmXMISQxwntaWqUF

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ABC News @ABC
HAPPENING NOW: Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz holds a news conference in response to the protests in Minneapolis.
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[30-May-20 10:22 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
To any american reading this I muat know


[30-May-20 10:22 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Who is Joe Biden? What are his political views, his history is he is trustworthy or corrupt, scandals everything


[30-May-20 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
```>boil water on the stove to take a bath```


[30-May-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
that's ex-USSR of the 90ies though. Gas is still cheap, but no running hot water 80%+ of the time, no local heaters because the system was designed around, you guessed it, running hot water, and there's no proper offers on the market to fix it, and so on.


[30-May-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it's feasible. Just not in US.


[30-May-20 11:24 AM] Opponent#3498
(gas stoves ofc, not electricity, although that's also pretty spotty outside of business hours)


[30-May-20 11:29 AM] Opponent#3498
public school sucks and the system's falling apart. Private schools are already kind of a thing but also hit or miss in both price range and quality (those two factors not nessesarily coinciding)


[30-May-20 11:29 AM] Opponent#3498
and so on.


[30-May-20 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
basicly I'd buy his crap if he moved to US with his family somewhere in the late 90ies/2000.


[30-May-20 11:33 AM] Opponent#3498
```electric water heaters are a real oddity
they are typically much less efficient than gas water heaters
and more expensive too
not sure why you'd want one if you had a gas line```
standard here btw, I have one. They don't kill the budget, but the gas one might, the prices are weird and conditional on many things.


[30-May-20 12:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Opponent 
and to add injury to insult, installation of heaters is not allowed where there is running hot water. There is special commission knocking on doors and asking to check bathroom for any illegal installations.


[30-May-20 12:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>5 gallons.
Wtf? I need just under one gallon for complete wash, In case electricity gets cut.


[30-May-20 01:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[30-May-20 01:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Once our "iron cavalry" keep moving out...


[30-May-20 02:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1266575038771331073

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Right now at the White House protesters are ripping away the barricades that surround the building.

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[30-May-20 02:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Where the fuck were you when we bumble fucked our way into revolution


[30-May-20 02:16 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-May-20 02:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/-lD7VqQbrEw

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America's Biggest Problem
Watch the new video, Agoraphobic Nation: Sprawl and Culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH60aM7BzKM&t=0s
Most of the problems that we face today in the United States, whether they are cultural, economic, social or environmental are rooted in poor urban design and planning...
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[30-May-20 02:53 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[30-May-20 03:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The cars are happy.🚗

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[30-May-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Annihilate cars.


[30-May-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reorganize cities based on La Cabousier planning


[30-May-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cities in the sky time


[30-May-20 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-veto-makes-it-harder-for-students-get-debt-relief-2020-5

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Trump quietly vetoes measure that would have made it easier for def...
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[30-May-20 03:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Would probably affect his "school"


[30-May-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/if-section-230-dies-twitter-facebook-would-likely-ban-trump-2020-5

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The irony is, if Section 230 were to die like Trump says he wants, ...
Section 230 is the part of the law that has been protecting Trump's ability to post whatever he wants to their websites.
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[30-May-20 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Indeed


[30-May-20 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This looks exactly like what I picture reading the words "Mississippi Mayor"
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mississippi-mayor-refuses-to-resign-says-he-didnt-see-anything-unreasonable-with-george-floyds-death

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A Republican mayor from Mississippi is resisting calls to resign following a series of tweets where he claimed he "didn't see anything unreasonable" about the brutal death of George Floyd, a  unarmed black man, at the hands of a white police officer who kneeled on his neck unt...
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[30-May-20 04:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Protesters next stop is the mayors office


[30-May-20 04:09 PM] AG-NRG#0405

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[30-May-20 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-May-20 04:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
Come on, burn down Home Depot


[30-May-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
there's trumpanzees throwing a shit fit about the protests in another server


[30-May-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
circle jerking each other about how violent "the left" is


[30-May-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/foxwoundband/status/1266613385862447104

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Atlanta has deployed a child militia at Lenox Mall fitted with riot shields and batons. What the actual fuck is going on? https://t.co/zTtmw5mDTN
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[30-May-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
holy fuck


[30-May-20 04:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
"b-but they're not c-c-c-child soldiers. They just be real shorties."


[30-May-20 04:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
To encourage the enemy to feel sorry for us.


[30-May-20 04:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Literally walk over and pick them up, take their shields and weapons, and set them down somewhere with a juice box and minecraft


[30-May-20 04:25 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why not a juice box and fortnite?

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[30-May-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
could be a juice box and zelda


[30-May-20 04:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Sir Frosty That too


[30-May-20 04:28 PM] RYDE#8862
George Carlin would have a field day if he's still alive.


[30-May-20 04:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[30-May-20 04:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
We be deploying the best


[30-May-20 04:36 PM] AG-NRG#0405
Is this real? That doesn't make any sense. What are they actually?


[30-May-20 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/foxwoundband/status/1266613385862447104

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[30-May-20 04:37 PM] AaronMk#4499
America is the richest third world country


[30-May-20 04:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We use "developing" now


[30-May-20 04:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Who is Joe Biden? What are his political views, his history is he is trustworthy or corrupt, scandals everything
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 

Joe Biden is a senator from New Hampshire. He has made multiple presidential bids throughout his career and sort of a gaff magnet. Despite representing a state made up entirely of banks, he takes pride in being the poorest senator from his state or some shit, which means he's either doing a bad job or no one cares. He is responsible for several highly punitive criminal reform laws such as jacking up the prison sentence for drug offenses. He has been alleged to have committed multiple cases of sexual assault.


[30-May-20 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If only because 3rd World referred specifically to "USSR aligned"


[30-May-20 04:41 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Thank you


[30-May-20 04:41 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Also second world was USSR aligned, thrid world was neutral


[30-May-20 04:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
orite


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Third World was what Indonesia was trying to build at one point. Or the Indonesian Communist Party.


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
You meant third way


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then the US decided we couldn't let the world's largest non-Soviet communist party exist.


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also jesus, Patachu really wanting people to deepthroat the boot in the hellthread


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
That started with hitler seeing he was anti everything and didn’t fit the traditional spectrum


[30-May-20 04:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
I unfollowed that thread


[30-May-20 04:43 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Anti marxism, anti capitalism, anti republicanism, anti monarchism, anti semitism anti american anti slavism, anti africanism


[30-May-20 04:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's gone p.much "Floyd deserved to die for not complying immediately to every police request; when a cop says 'jump off a bridge', you jump and ask for a lawyer later, unless you're hiding something"

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[30-May-20 04:44 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
So they came up with "third way solution" where the politics doesn’t fit neither side of the spectrum


[30-May-20 04:46 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> @NaturalNat🇯🇵 
> 
> Joe Biden is a senator from New Hampshire. He has made multiple presidential bids throughout his career and sort of a gaff magnet. Despite representing a state made up entirely of banks, he takes pride in being the poorest senator from his state or some shit, which means he's either doing a bad job or no one cares. He is responsible for several highly punitive criminal reform laws such as jacking up the prison sentence for drug offenses. He has been alleged to have committed multiple cases of sexual assault.
@AaronMk  

Why democrats sexual assault? Last one I heard was Clinton and his famous "I did not had sexual relations with that woman" meme


[30-May-20 04:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone in power sexual assaults. It's why it was a great comedy Clinton was ever impeached for a blowjob.


[30-May-20 04:46 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Then again when you’re old and no woman wants you due to you being old I can kind of see why


[30-May-20 04:47 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
And if that was the case Elon Musk and other philanthropist would’ve been charged already


[30-May-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden is accused of assault when he was in his 50s iirc


[30-May-20 04:47 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I think it’s due to their advanced age


[30-May-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's power tripping


[30-May-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of people stop thinking of other people as, well, people


[30-May-20 04:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Musk can drown you in litigation. There's entire known networks dedicated to snuffing out any sexual assault charges against the rich and powerful. Refer to: https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/maria-farmer

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[30-May-20 04:48 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
So basically is another, choose between Lucifer and Loki


[30-May-20 04:49 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Choose your poison and hope it will kill you faster if not make you don’t suffer


[30-May-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be like this forever as long as there's a two party system


[30-May-20 04:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hell, even three party system


[30-May-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ultimately there's not much difference between DC and the CCP, just more theatrics


[30-May-20 04:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Initiate organic centralism across universal suffrage lines and total involvement


[30-May-20 05:23 PM] illumnious#7938

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[30-May-20 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@AaronMk You are missing out

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[30-May-20 05:25 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hong Kong protesters are teaching American protesters how to build barriers and make weapons


[30-May-20 05:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/shlofolina/status/1266585442754998273?s=21

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[30-May-20 05:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon This is the same lib shit as ever


[30-May-20 05:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Protesters all over the world, unite!


[30-May-20 05:38 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/351498163175178240?s=21

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[30-May-20 05:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Holy fuck


[30-May-20 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ahmedIfc/status/1266550697316831233

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@realDonaldTrump @EDM___HEAD @EdandBev
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[30-May-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
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"I will code what I really want to say to Donald Trump, it's two words, it begins with 'f' and it ends with 'you.’” Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot #TrumpResignNow

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[30-May-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>not actually swearing


[30-May-20 06:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wouldn't get on cable news


[30-May-20 06:26 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> It'll be like this forever as long as there's a two party system
@Teaspoon  

Brasil's multi party worst, you have to choose between tons of even more worst candidates and has to choose more wisely but with the same voting minds as americans is even worst


[30-May-20 06:27 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
You have multiple left wings parties who hate each other who hate the opposition who also hate the opposition of the same branch of theirs who hate the centrist who hates the etc


[30-May-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh you are brasilian


[30-May-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 :3


[30-May-20 06:30 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Wait I'm in Derpibooru? I thought I was at another server


[30-May-20 06:30 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Who also has a politics channel and I also asked who joe biden is there


[30-May-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/29/george-floyd-protests-car-driven-into-protesters-denver-rally/5283621002/

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Woman drives vehicle into protesters at George Floyd rally in Denver
The black SUV entered a street that had been closed. A man jumped on the hood to avoid being run over, then jumped off and was later struck.
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[30-May-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Karens have weaponized


[30-May-20 06:54 PM] ononim#8141
The amount of people who consider inconvenience being worth taking lives of others is amazing


[30-May-20 06:54 PM] ononim#8141
tho I guess I shouldn't be surprised after that time someone got told to wear a mask in a shop and they shot the person who told them that


[30-May-20 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"that time"
It's plural now


[30-May-20 06:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
I was at an anti-prison protest and we (briefly) blockaded the headquarters for Michigan's prison system and shit. There were a lot of pissed off people who wanted to leave and a few fights almost broke out because dudes couldn't leave.


[30-May-20 06:55 PM] Raptorshy#6268
For me it isn't inconvenience, it's "this situation is scary as hell and if any of these people come near my car I'm getting the fuck out of here"


[30-May-20 06:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
In that case there were people whose entire job was to throw icewater and cool down a tense situation.


[30-May-20 06:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
smh @AaronMk tried to keep people in prison


[30-May-20 06:56 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I know I'll panic, I don't justify it


[30-May-20 06:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
> smh @AaronMk tried to keep people in prison
@Teaspoon 

It's in the job description, "When communist, build gulags" lol


[30-May-20 06:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
But no, we were protesting the prison system existing during the prisoner strike.


[30-May-20 06:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://derpibooru.org/images/2361855

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[30-May-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rnc-no-face-masks-or-social-distancing-2020-5

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[30-May-20 07:02 PM] RYDE#8862
Where's the time stones from little planet when we need it go back to the past and put a stop to the things that gets to us where we are now? We want a good future. Not bad future.


[30-May-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn think time stones would help unless we went all the way to the writing of the constitution


[30-May-20 07:04 PM] RYDE#8862
I agree.


[30-May-20 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Where's the time stones from little planet when we need it go back to the past and put a stop to the things that gets to us where we are now? We want a good future. Not bad future.
@RYDE 

There is no going back to correct the present. There is only halting the progress of the present to save us from a bad future. It is the duty of the present, of the revolutionary citizen to reach for the emergency brake and stop the progress of the train on the tracks before we achieve self annihilation. And halting it: allow ourselves to proceed down a new path for a better future.


[30-May-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quite a lot of this is failings to take into account concepts that didnt exist at the time of it's writing


[30-May-20 07:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
We always real Walter Benjamin hours


[30-May-20 07:06 PM] RYDE#8862
@AaronMk then how can we stop from getting the bad future? What can we do?


[30-May-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we're getting the bad future whether we like it or not, it;s more a matter of how we rebuild once it passes


[30-May-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
> quite a lot of this is failings to take into account concepts that didnt exist at the time of it's writing
@prism stryder(intexda) 

Less failures of understand and more class-based political principles. The constitution was drafted and signed by a bunch of wealth land-owning colonymen and wanted to first and foremost protect the interest of wealthy and landowning buisinessmen, particularly white men. It took decades for even unlanded white men to be able to vote and centuries for our current expanded suffrage. But much of the spirit of the colonial bourgeoisie exists in the Constitution today, or the political structures as they stand, or can be taken advantage of by the same people even if on the surface such things are egalitarian.


[30-May-20 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gta5qg/dc_police_sending_officers_dressed_like_antifa_to/

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[30-May-20 07:13 PM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk then how can we stop from getting the bad future? What can we do?
@RYDE 

A collective effort has to be had. If you go about believing in the Great Man Theory where the only way to control and direct history is people with exceptional will to do so, then there will be nothing that happens, as opposed to a narrative of history where things happen as a consequence of current and past conditions. The former can not be overcome as we are enslaved only to particularly strong people who may or may not do good. But the later can be overcome through collective effort. To which the first step is always: organize. Organize your fellow students, organize your neighbors, organize your workplace. Bridge the gaps of social alienation created by modern America so they can be closed again. This will not be easy, this will be hard, but many people sharing the collective burden of the matter at hand will be overcome. We will overcome, as the song says.

The second step is of course education. Actually you may even make this the first step. As Slovenian philosopher and political and cultural critique as advised: think, not act. If you don't formulate an appropriate critique of things on which to act on, or discover one then what are you doing but meandering and being lost? This may be the one good critique of the George Floyd protests: while the goal may be justice in the particular, what is the long term goal and how is it organized? It's cruel and cynical to say, particularly at a distance. Which reminds me of a slogan posted on my server also: The means justify the end, but you have to justify the ends.


[30-May-20 07:17 PM] RYDE#8862
Think but not act. Got it.


[30-May-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
The full context behind, "Don't think; just act". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgR6uaVqWsQ

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[30-May-20 07:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you can translate his sniffing


[30-May-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
I thought Nebbie was the one with the hardest, most unrealistic fixations


[30-May-20 07:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I was wrong.


[30-May-20 07:36 PM] Opponent#3498
@RYDE in practice, there's nothing you personally, or you as a small community, can do. You're in for the ride.


[30-May-20 07:38 PM] RYDE#8862
I want to get off the ride.


[30-May-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a shared sentiment :(


[30-May-20 07:54 PM] RYDE#8862
Yes.


[30-May-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-warned-demonstrators-of-vicious-dogs-and-ominous-weapons-2020-5

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Trump praised the Secret Service's protest response: "Whenever someone got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard."
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[30-May-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/george-floyd-minneapolis.html
> Pentagon Orders Army Units to Stand By
> The Defense Department ordered the Army to prepare military police units to deploy to Minneapolis after another night of protests.
> The Pentagon says that active-duty units from across the country have been put on notice, at the behest of President Trump.

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Live Updates on George Floyd Protests: Pentagon Orders Army Units t...
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[30-May-20 08:56 PM] illumnious#7938
I knew FOX News was going to be up next https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-reporter-taunted-with-expletives-during-protest-1007820/

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At least 20 states saw organized protests on Friday. Some were peaceful, but many turned dangerous as protesters expressed outrage in the wake of police brutality and a lack of charges for the othe…
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[30-May-20 08:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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Police in Minneapolis shot a photojournalist in the face and she’s now permanently blind in one eye https://t.co/gPKMhjfwoU
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[30-May-20 08:57 PM] illumnious#7938
now the OANN


[30-May-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just stop trying to cover it at this point


[30-May-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZsnKGV8TE

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[30-May-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
12 min


[30-May-20 09:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 09:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdpLv3RDhA

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Fuck Tha Police
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Fuck Tha Police · N.W.A.

Straight Outta Compton

℗ 1988 Priority Records LLC

Released on: 1988-08-08

Producer: Dr. Dre
Producer: DJ Yella
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[30-May-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266799941273350145

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266799941273350145
Much more “disinformation” coming out of CNN, MSDNC, @nytimes and @washingtonpost, by far, than coming out of any foreign country, even combined. Fake News is the Enemy of the People!
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[30-May-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
pure projection


[30-May-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266796670609588225
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Crossing State lines to incite violence is a FEDERAL CRIME! Liberal Governors and Mayors must get MUCH tougher or the Federal Government will step in and do what has to be done, and that includes using the unlimited power of our Military and many arrests. Thank you!
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80% of the RIOTERS in Minneapolis last night were from OUT OF STATE. They are harming businesses (especially African American small businesses), homes, and the community of good, hardworking Minneapolis residents who want peace, equality, and to provide for their families.
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[30-May-20 09:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
Preventing internal movement now I see.


[30-May-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
(what he said is illegal, so we'll see if the military follows illegal orders)


[30-May-20 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/MSDNCNews/status/1266807248870875147

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Savage third world dictatorship deploys child soldiers to quell unrest over public executions.

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[30-May-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/foreverasia_X0/status/1266591608545390594

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https://twitter.com/foreverasia_X0/status/1266591608545390594
Interesting. The CEO of Target wrote this message saying he fully supports the movement and they have enough money to easily rebuild AND pay their workers. Leaving this here for everyone crying about Targets and not black lives yesterday.
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[30-May-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/snfkjB0.jpg

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[30-May-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-May-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Methinks the political establishment is gonna hav some trouble soon.

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[30-May-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
>President Trump is a Doughnut

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[30-May-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532 (pinned)
"You can fuck it, but you'll regret it instantly and forever"


[30-May-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.

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[30-May-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/dining/minnesota-restaurant-fire-protests.html

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By Amelia Nierenberg
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/dining/minnesota-restaurant-fire-protests.html
Their Minneapolis Restaurant Burned, but They Back the Protest
Though a Bangladeshi family lost their business in the uproar over the death of George Floyd, they support demonstrators and helped medics treat them.
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[30-May-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Annoyingly, someone at the NYT downplayed the title.


[30-May-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was in their stories list as "Let My Building Burn"


[30-May-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NYT has a history of changing article titles a few hours after publishing


[30-May-20 10:27 PM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Apparently confirmed that a disguised police officer is actually going around provoking now violence during the riots.


[30-May-20 10:28 PM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Kinda makes you wonder what is really going on here.


[30-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
To become a US police officer, you need to want control over others.


[30-May-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[30-May-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much, the mindset of the BTK killer.


[30-May-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police want to fan the flames, because in the flames, they can shoot people and get away with it.


[30-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want their views of minorities as nothing but thugs justified, and for them to be assigned to deal with it instead of having to like, arrest white business owners.


[30-May-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they aren't really smart enuff to realize is that the media can't be stopped.


[30-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can arrest or shoot at individual journalists, but that will only make it worse.


[30-May-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the long run, they are screwed. The public right now is going to stop trusting police.


[30-May-20 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't worry, after Trump tries to shut down social media for moderating racists and rightwing nutjobs, he'll go after the "fake news media" and make it illegal to film cops or report on events they really shouldn't be looking into


[30-May-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
is it time for me to seek asylum in canada yet


[30-May-20 10:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't hurt to check out some online French classes


[30-May-20 10:34 PM] byte[]#2610
ah god no not the quebecois ;~;


[30-May-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
the racist white people of maple leaf country


[30-May-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i shoudl check out some online finnish classes, i;d rather not be on the same continent as this mess


[30-May-20 10:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/AppleTerminal/status/1266735075632320512?s=20

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News:

The #AppleStore in #Minneapolis and #Portland have been completely damaged and looted by violent protests over the killing of #GeorgeFloyd.

https://t.co/M4Tytcygv4

#Apple @Appel #AppleNews #protests
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[30-May-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
"Appel"


[30-May-20 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4

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Gil Scott-Heron - Whitey On the Moon (Official Audio)
Official audio for Whitey On the Moon by Gil Scott-Heron, released on Ace Records. Subscribe to the official Ace channel for more classics, lost gems, playlists, and more: http://www.youtube.com/AceRecordsBroadcast http://acerecords.co.uk/the-revolution-begins-the-flying-dutch...
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[30-May-20 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
musky's rocket flew


[30-May-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cleared-wrongdoing-kansas-trips-pompeo-turns-attack-dem/story?id=70938783

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Cleared of wrongdoing for Kansas trips, Pompeo turns to attack Dem ...
Cleared of wrongdoing for Kansas trips, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo turns to attack the Democrat requesting the probe.
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[30-May-20 10:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> The federal agency, known as the Office of Special Counsel, cleared him of wrongdoing because he said he is not running for office.


[30-May-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"The judge ruled the defendant did not attempt to rob the bank because on entering with his mask on and gun out he saw a security guard shake his head so he walked away"

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[30-May-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-May-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fuck books I guess

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[30-May-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[30-May-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
(personally high school made me hate physical books so eh. ebook for life)


[30-May-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
I believe the riot mentality here is "fukk all businesses"


[30-May-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
http://www.unclehugo.com/prod/

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Uncle Hugo's & Uncle Edgar's Bookstores - Science Fiction, Fantasy,...
Uncle Hugo's Science Fiction & Uncle Edgar's Mystery Bookstores Website


[30-May-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Eyewitness accounts and livestreams report fires being set by young white men.


[30-May-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545

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[30-May-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
I love image and caption setups like this.


[30-May-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of books in a shop like that are probably lost forever


[30-May-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/harikondabolu/status/1266570082903261185

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WHITE DUDES WHITESPLAINING MARTIN LUTHER KING TO HIS SON. ENJOY.
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[30-May-20 11:41 PM] jlun2#8758
> Eyewitness accounts and livestreams report fires being set by young white men.
I guess they have bookphobia from school textbooks


[30-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like Lily Peet.


[30-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possible.


[30-May-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a soft target for wannabe "anarchists"


[30-May-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking


[30-May-20 11:43 PM] jlun2#8758
> Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy
sounds impossible given most ppl are social (ie. hierarchy have a tendency to just spontaneously appear for them)


[30-May-20 11:46 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/sIuUb1GxYOE?t=63

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activities and burn some books - Jojo Rabbit (2019)
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[30-May-20 11:46 PM] jlun2#8758
not surprised their all male


[30-May-20 11:47 PM] jlun2#8758
am male irl btw, and in my exp irl boys hated education (during high school)


[30-May-20 11:47 PM] ononim#8141

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[30-May-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm posting this anytime I see someone criticize a future dystopia setting as too on the nose and crazy.

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[30-May-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
YAY WE LAUNCHED A ROKKET! ALSO THE VIRUS IS GUTTING OUR ECONOMY! ALSO IT'S TIME TO DEFUND THE POLICE! AND DONALD TRUMP IS FANNING THE FLAMES!


[30-May-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine seeing this in 2010.


[30-May-20 11:50 PM] jlun2#8758
the worse part is that if society rebuilds its probably going to be dominated by white tech bros & bots


[30-May-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, imagine Marty McFly seeing this is Back to the Future II


[30-May-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd be like "what the hell happened?"


[30-May-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget that the US president is considering ending the 1a on the internet because a company was mean to him


[30-May-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
we connected billions of ppl thinking free speech was good & it killed democracy


[30-May-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives literally claim that free speech requires destroying the 1st amendment.

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[30-May-20 11:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Not even mean to him just pointed out that he was lying.


[30-May-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are just plain monarchists at this point.


[30-May-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barely even a pretense that the constitution matters.


[30-May-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't have modern capitalism under an absolutist monarchy


[30-May-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds like they're unstopable


[30-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you very much can.


[30-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The corporation just has to be run by the nobility.


[30-May-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire fukking point of conservatism.


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Isn't that just what china is doing?


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] jlun2#8758
how are they winning


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is to replace the old nobility by birth with new nobility by market domination.


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a response to liberals killing monarchs and birth-nobles in general.


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically you hav three ways to establish nobility


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Religion


[30-May-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
2. Inheritance


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
3. Wealth


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
In feudalism, these three were tied together tightly into a powerful bond


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"republican gentlemen"


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds unstoppable


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religion started to fracture as time went on


[30-May-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US and France tore it mostly off


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bad things keep happening no matter how much you pray, and "it's god's punishment" gets old really fast


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, they took away inheritance's power beyond sole wealth


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Indulgences are what fractured Christianity


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
>  "it's god's punishment" gets old really fast
not fast enough


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
St. Peter's sure is pretty


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth was left as the only option to maintain a place atop the social ladder, pouring molten metal on those below.


[30-May-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope it was worth fracturing Christianity forever


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking short termism forever


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
so in their view, yes, completely worth


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans in case you havn't noticed are trying to rebind religion and wealth together


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
really?


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's the entire point of appealing to christians


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth alone is hard to get off the ground


[30-May-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
But wealth+religion is powerful.


[31-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't just choosing a large ally group


[31-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're choosing a way to bind things together tightly to try to reestablish pre-American social systems.


[31-May-20 12:00 AM] jlun2#8758
do you think its unstoppable now


[31-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[31-May-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is still crumbling.


[31-May-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can bind it all they want, but it's half what it used to be.


[31-May-20 12:01 AM] jlun2#8758
wow. you're all doom & gloom & still more optimistic than me lol


[31-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a difference between "these people are literally fukking trying to genocide everyone else and reestablish the shittiest systems of the past" and "we're doomed because they'll win"


[31-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans are doing is as shitty as shitty gets


[31-May-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it's fundamentally flawed and at best can keep them afloat a decade.


[31-May-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't base your societal control off things that directly correlate with age


[31-May-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It leaves you with nothing when those people start dying of old age.


[31-May-20 12:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That bookstore shop makes me sad. Myself, sometimes I found interesting books at pawn shops. Not listed on the internet.


[31-May-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so many rare books probably got burned in that


[31-May-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it looks like a place i;d have wanted to visit soemday but now never will

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[31-May-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
ppl dont digitalize :sad:


[31-May-20 12:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Copyright "


[31-May-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well also obscurity


[31-May-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some books arent well known enough for people to locate and scan into digital format


[31-May-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this becomes mroe common the older the book


[31-May-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
>>2171892
my precious fanfics


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twihappy (5) 

[31-May-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
(pretend its a ebook)


[31-May-20 12:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Though, I found that 1914 book is $20 at most.


[31-May-20 12:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I used to have a medical tome from like 1914. It was pretty neat and even had some pictures of old white dudes in suits doing ju jitsu or something


[31-May-20 12:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ha, I had 1950's Soviet chemistry book. It was soooooo outdated, when I tried to ask a teacher about concept.


[31-May-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a lot of ancient cook books


[31-May-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i have an original print copy of watership down


[31-May-20 12:26 AM] illumnious#7938
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Police car set on fire in Philadelphia as tensions rise at protests over the death of George Floyd
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[31-May-20 12:32 AM] illumnious#7938
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Miami, Florida right now. #BlackLivesMatter protest. I’m so proud of my city. #MIAMIPROTEST 
 
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[31-May-20 12:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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@NoMoeTrouble @ChrisBishopL1C4 @lookner Well, a decade ago, the FBI was raising alarms that white supremacist groups were specifically targeting police recruitment - both to get their people hired and to indoctrinate new hires.

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@NoMoeTrouble @ChrisBishopL1C4 @lookner (Since this is gaining traction and reliable information is important. Here’s a primary source: https://t.co/BHUp9aGD6Z  although my estimate of “a decade” was off a little. This is from 2006. So even under Dubya the FBI was raising war...
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[31-May-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
```Apparently confirmed that a disguised police officer is actually going around provoking now violence during the riots.
Kinda makes you wonder what is really going on here.```


[31-May-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
they're trying to discredit the movement. It's simple really


[31-May-20 12:37 AM] Opponent#3498
the crowd just needs a push, someone to throw the first stone and break the first window


[31-May-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
burn the first bookstore


[31-May-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc7news.com/live-george-floyd-protests-turn-violent-in-philadelphia/6221141/

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LIVE: George Floyd protests turn violent in Philadelphia
At least two police vehicles were set ablaze on Saturday in Philadelphia as hundreds gathered to protest the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white officer pressed a knee into his neck.
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[31-May-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent  i wonder would that backfire, or nah totally works and now "everyone" thinks the movement is shit?


[31-May-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well they got what they aimed for and the movement turned destructive.


[31-May-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
whether or not they can deal with it now is a different question.


[31-May-20 12:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Not their problem, there's army for that.


[31-May-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
remember that philadelphia was the town that literally bombed its citizens


[31-May-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

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[31-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
>thinking that only in the 2000s did white supremacists actively try to join police forces


[31-May-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
bruh


[31-May-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd bet you many southern police forces were literally entirely founded by white supremacists.


[31-May-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtinxp/black_cop_fired_without_pension_for_stopping/

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[31-May-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck the police


[31-May-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[31-May-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
>weebs
>disconnected from reality


[31-May-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
thanks captain obvious


[31-May-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtksgq/cop_decides_to_shoot_at_protestor_who_hurt_his/

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[31-May-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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NYPD hitting a protestor with a car door in BK. Wow it’s almost like this isn’t really about protecting the public. https://t.co/9DTIv1QYe9
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[31-May-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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#ThisAgedWell
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[31-May-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
3:25 AM wtf?


[31-May-20 01:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking isn't that almost everyone? like how foreigners see us as "land of oppurtunity" from Hollywood & us folks are like "700$ insulin YES fuck me harder capitalism"


[31-May-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
eternal problem :sad:


[31-May-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie So that guy finally responded to people calling him out about the tweet he made about Chinese people


[31-May-20 01:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All he did was link to a Google search of the Yulin Dog Meat Festival


[31-May-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His statement wasn't "Eating dog meat is bad and the Chinese should stop doing it"


[31-May-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was "The Chinese eat dog meat because they have small penises and think it is an aphrodisiac"


[31-May-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh moment


[31-May-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[31-May-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, he's not against eating dog meat.


[31-May-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's against being chinese.


[31-May-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/qACk4ZCfauo?t=234

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Animal Crossing in the Year 2020
Welcome to the year 2020 Animal Crossing gamers. It's truly a blessed magical time to be a fan of the beloved series.
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[31-May-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, only Americans can steal his data.


[31-May-20 02:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
He's again having small dick


[31-May-20 02:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also I've never heard eating dog meat can make your dick bigger...


[31-May-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure that's not even a rumor anywhere


[31-May-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that type of rumor is more for pangolin scales and rhino horns


[31-May-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Happy to know you stand by the side of literal evil murders vs. guy who made a joke about their penis size. Good to know where your morality stands."


[31-May-20 02:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
We might not have Discord because of Trump


[31-May-20 02:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yet people still vote for this fucker


[31-May-20 02:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This is the definition of masochistic


[31-May-20 02:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We here people eat goat dick, bull dick, and tiger dick (now banned) for male sexual disability


[31-May-20 02:20 AM] jlun2#8758
an orange man a day keeps the scary libs away @SymphonyDawn3


[31-May-20 02:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
He treatened to destroy social media where artists make a living at


[31-May-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
also somehow makes America a Christian nation


[31-May-20 02:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Catholics kinda makes more sense than Protestants


[31-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> artists make a living 
I thought people hated them and constantly deride them for  "not having a real job"


[31-May-20 02:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Said by a boomer


[31-May-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
unless you paint abstract paintings for a museum


[31-May-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
also abstract artists should be automated change my mind


[31-May-20 02:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You have to be famous to have your painting in a museum


[31-May-20 02:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Which is useless nowadays


[31-May-20 02:25 AM] jlun2#8758
people only like art from old white dudes :sad:


[31-May-20 02:26 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Makes cartoon art better


[31-May-20 02:26 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The modern definition of art sucks dick


[31-May-20 02:26 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What's art there if you stick a banana on a wall?


[31-May-20 02:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is only a blue portrait considered art?


[31-May-20 02:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And why is literal trash considered art?


[31-May-20 02:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Are these people smoking crack? lol


[31-May-20 02:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yet, boomers hate anything that's cartoon art


[31-May-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
as much as I joke about abstract art, animated, AI generated abstract art that infinitely transitions to things look really pretty to me.


[31-May-20 02:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How long have we drawn porn?


[31-May-20 02:32 AM] jlun2#8758
since dawn of human history
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Hohle_Fels>
probably more further back lost


[31-May-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 02:45 AM] illumnious#7938
Haha


[31-May-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[31-May-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1266883347130847234

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Incident was broadcast on local TV

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[31-May-20 03:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
> He treatened to destroy social media where artists make a living at
@SymphonyDawn3 

When you try to make it harder for social media to censor conservatives but instead just make the platforms more liable for the content they host to own the libs.


[31-May-20 03:12 AM] jlun2#8758
has his supporters chanted "OWN THOSE LIBS" yet?


[31-May-20 03:30 AM] illumnious#7938
awww shit my nigga

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[31-May-20 03:34 AM] illumnious#7938
wut https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266387743996870656?s=20

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REVOKE 230!
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[31-May-20 03:34 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266777430016102403?s=20

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Here we go again. Fake News @CNN is blaming RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA. They are sick losers with VERY bad ratings! P.S. Can’t blame China because they need the cash?
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[31-May-20 04:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why do school shootings happen?


[31-May-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are many reasons


[31-May-20 04:07 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
The Realengo was because the guy was bullied and wanted to feel powerful for once


[31-May-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Many have been blamed on bullied loner kids snapping, many on sociopathic or "wasn't hugged enough" kids wanting attention and fame, many on kids with severe mental issues just hating other kids and wanting to hurt them


[31-May-20 04:15 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
The columbine was defined the last case and last year São Paulo almost had a brazilian version


[31-May-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American high schools now are being designed to be anti shooter friendly


[31-May-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mine had a nice open courtyard, but they had to fence it off


[31-May-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
American kids get bullied, the school doesn't care, bullies or victims or random psychos hav access to firearms in abundance, and there's a ton of idolization of shooters.


[31-May-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is no matter which way you view shooters, it makes more shooters.


[31-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but ultimately you need to stop access to weapons.


[31-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And get kids to therapy.


[31-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of poor kids being shat on by the system is really, really bad.


[31-May-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
School to prison pipeline etc.


[31-May-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Forcing kids into therapy will make them resent society.


[31-May-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just having a single interview with a counselor early on will probably catch like half of these early.


[31-May-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's kinda what I want


[31-May-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1.  P
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[31-May-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
> It is the policy of the United States that the scope of that immunity should be clarified: the immunity should not extend beyond its text and purpose to provide protection for those who purport to provide users a forum for free and open speech, but in reality use their power over a vital means of communication to engage in deceptive or pretextual actions stifling free and open debate by censoring certain viewpoints.


[31-May-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
do any social media companies actually claim to "provide users a forum for free and open speech"?


[31-May-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
I read this thing yesterday, and it kinda reads like some staffers put together a bunch of words that sounded all ostentatious and fancy that gave the gist of what trump wanted done, but isn't actually enforceable


[31-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's supposed to be "take down that vid of police shooting blakks"


[31-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
mixed with "keep up this guy saying blakks deserve getting shot"


[31-May-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the whole deal is with telling companies to enforce their own ToS or else.


[31-May-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All twitter has to do is say "we're left leaning :^)" then


[31-May-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very common for a site to hav a ToS that says "no violent stuff"


[31-May-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
More accurately, Twitter would hav to say "violent stuff is okay in these circumstances" very explicitly.


[31-May-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then conservatives would be able to go "well here's a video of a blakk person throwing a punch one time" with some blood edited in or whatnot.


[31-May-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
twitter would actually be forced to kick trump off if he were to "repeal 230" like he said he wanted to


[31-May-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Heh


[31-May-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, as far as saying "we're left leaning", note also before the ToS thing it talks about how not being content-neutral makes you a publisher


[31-May-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
the whole idea is the moment you do anything just cause someone said "all blakk people deserve to be shot on sight", the gov't considers you a publisher and finds a way to grill you.


[31-May-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-fourth-final-coronavirus-economic-aid-bill-senate-republicans-2020-5

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McConnell says 'fourth and final' stimulus bill will be considered ...
McConnell continued to oppose an extension to strengthened unemployment benefits, saying the program "is not designed to encourage you to stay home."
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[31-May-20 04:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will the riot raise up the spreading speed of corona?


[31-May-20 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
probably


[31-May-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[31-May-20 05:01 AM] illumnious#7938
absolutely


[31-May-20 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the virus will have it;s own riot soon


[31-May-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AntWuzHere/status/1266904350183620608

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In MY city FLINT, MICHIGAN. This is how the protest went with the sheriff 

@RonHilliardTV recorded this live https://t.co/gNAUj6Ijp3
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[31-May-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They _still_ do not have clean water


[31-May-20 05:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/LibertyHangout/status/1266926402269523969

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HOLY SHIT. The rioters appear to have just murdered a man defending his shop from looters in Dallas. Please pray for this country. https://t.co/kYbBYJlpYE
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[31-May-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He won't do it, but it will be fun to see.

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[31-May-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
who


[31-May-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An idiot who thinks this is "out of context"

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[31-May-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll never stop relishing in how he'll never find his whites-only tropical paradise.


[31-May-20 05:20 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tfw I was in servers where people would say shit like this all the time


[31-May-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ


[31-May-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1266927491949588485?s=20

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BREAKING RIOT UPDATES - BLAZE TV (@ElijahSchaffer)
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Here is the critically injured man being tender to by volunteer medics
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[31-May-20 05:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, I know people like this who quote MLK.


[31-May-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
> tropical paradise
even if they did, won't they just destroy it very quick since environmentalism is a leftist hoax to them?


[31-May-20 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but the important part is that there are only whites there, and no brown people to get in the way of their deforestation efforts


[31-May-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wants to be Florida Man, but hates that there's brown people there


[31-May-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And doesn't want to live in north Florida I guess


[31-May-20 05:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ that mob violence though, the guy was just defending his shop


[31-May-20 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
@Stoopedhooy, the source for that video is from blaze tv, which is almost as bad as breitbart


[31-May-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
the video itself is clipped too late to see whether the dude was actually defending his store or not


[31-May-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
why'd you delet


[31-May-20 05:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Damn TSP beat me to it


[31-May-20 05:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also idc about your explanations Crow


[31-May-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
okay, I'm adding context as to why the video is clipped so short, it has nothing to do with you personally


[31-May-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
I guess I could've linked it again, but that would be redundant


[31-May-20 05:38 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It seems someone oosted it before me as well.


[31-May-20 05:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Sherrifs are usually voted for so if his police went out and beat the crap out of people he's liable to not get reelected and Flint has a sizeable black population, part of why they still don't have clean water


[31-May-20 05:44 AM] Crow#5457
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A tea party is the language of the unheard
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[31-May-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mike_winick/status/1265990698110791681

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@Idle0ats @charliekirk11 The Boston Tea Party happened after years of protests fell on the deaf ears of the King and Parliament. It was the only avenue left.
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[31-May-20 05:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's real


[31-May-20 05:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue what do you think will happen first? working nuclear fusion plant or flint clean water?


[31-May-20 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
China is actually working on having fusion in 20 years I think


[31-May-20 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
so probably fusion


[31-May-20 05:46 AM] Crow#5457
so's europe


[31-May-20 05:47 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[31-May-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
I know europe has the stellarator but China doesn't just want a proof of concept they want it on the grid in 20 years which is pretty bold plan cause even a coal plant in the US can take 10 years to build


[31-May-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Place your bets
Do you think Biden/his staff will get the hint not to pick Klobuchar (or even Harris) as VP?


[31-May-20 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
halve that maybe for the Chinese not having to deal with as many permit processes


[31-May-20 05:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/KellyRuleTV/status/1266762171872133121

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#GeorgeFloydProtests: Peaceful protest underway at City Hall.   

Organizers say the crowd will kneel for a 9 minute moment of silence “for how long George Floyd was forced to suffer” @FOX29philly https://t.co/DfVDELFxED
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[31-May-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, some trumpanzee posted this and said this was the "proper" way to protest


[31-May-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
but they're kneeling


[31-May-20 05:50 AM] Crow#5457
I guess kneeling is considered the "proper" way to protest now that the alternative has reared its ugly head


[31-May-20 05:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[31-May-20 05:51 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe the NFL will let Kaepernick play again


[31-May-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/bluggpblrz151

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Police in Salt Lake City shove an old man with a cane to the ground
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[31-May-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[31-May-20 05:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine being an astronaut stranded in orbit while all people on the ground are sent home due to virus.
||i know it is impossible||


[31-May-20 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
so this? <https://youtu.be/WcQC1c-53uA?t=144> (similar)


[31-May-20 06:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kek. Yeh


[31-May-20 06:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Crow sorry, I was a bit rude when I reacted to your comments.


[31-May-20 06:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I hope this one is not a repost
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225

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Share widely: National guard and MPD sweeping our residential street. Shooting paint canisters at us on our own front porch. Yelling “light em up” #JusticeForGeorgeFloyd #JusticeForGeorge #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/bW48imyt55
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[31-May-20 06:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Person ignores orders to get inside the house


[31-May-20 06:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
During the street sweeping


[31-May-20 06:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do some people really think it is okay to not follow orders from police during riots? :ponythinking:


[31-May-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[31-May-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/KevinRKrause/status/1266898396339675137

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She says she was walking home with her groceries when police fired some sort of pellet in her face. Says she’s not a protester. #DallasProtests
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[31-May-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.courthousenews.com/minnesota-officials-link-arrested-looters-to-white-supremacist-groups/amp/

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Minnesota Officials Link Arrested Looters to White Supremacist Groups
As Minneapolis underwent a fourth night of protests over the death of George Floyd, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz said Saturday that most rioters arrested are from outside of the city and sought to take advantage of the chaos.
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[31-May-20 06:46 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
looks like it is not very wise to not stay at home


[31-May-20 06:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
why they shoot people in faces tho


[31-May-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that's baffling to me too


[31-May-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
cops are trained to shoot people in the chest


[31-May-20 07:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wow, this one is a bit extreme
Trucker gets assaulted and some dumbass gets stuck in wheels when it drives away
https://twitter.com/KeithMillerMor1/status/1266910375200473095

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Semi truck go VROOOOOM! https://t.co/xqLKGDQ6kZ
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[31-May-20 07:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[31-May-20 07:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is it like this now


[31-May-20 07:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't know, plays in browser for me.


[31-May-20 07:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Teaspoon here is the vid

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[31-May-20 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtrcj3/michigan_sheriff_takes_off_helmet_and_drops_baton/

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[31-May-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1266837038885675008

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For those who think we have no business as a Sonic site covering what is happening in the US:

- Sonic is wrongly detained by law enforcement in the first minute of SA2, and escaped
- The plot + gameplay of Sonic Forces centers around "resistance" rising vs. Eggman's oppressi...
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[31-May-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes: 🦔


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
> cops are trained to shoot people in the chest
@byte[] There is your mistake. You assumed the cops were trained.


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mario was the subject of a complete kangaroo court in Super Mario Sunshine as well


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they are trained


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] byte[]#2610
sort of


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Pianta police are corrupt and just blame the first guy that looks vaguely like Mario


[31-May-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must realize, many of these cops skipped formal training, even basic shooting.


[31-May-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were basically asked "you played FPSes?"


[31-May-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
In which you aim for the head.


[31-May-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seven years to be a lawyer in the US.


[31-May-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two months to be a cop.


[31-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Two months is assuming all the necessary paperwork and such actually happens.


[31-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like you forget the scope of this shit.


[31-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember the problem with civil forfeiture?


[31-May-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
**The police dept.s are being given military grade equipment instead of general funding.**


[31-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
**They are funded by stealing your stuff and selling it.**


[31-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think happens when they need another cop ASAP and training costs a lot of money?


[31-May-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225

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Share widely: National guard and MPD sweeping our residential street. Shooting paint canisters at us on our own front porch. Yelling “light em up” #JusticeForGeorgeFloyd #JusticeForGeorge #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/bW48imyt55
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[31-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like shit you'd expect from Half Life 2.


[31-May-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cops going down a fukking empty suburban street and anyone standing on their own lawn watching gets shouted at and assaulted for daring to not stay inside in fear.


[31-May-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least in Half Life 2, the cops would run up to you instead of paintball you, so you had time to bakk off and go inside before getting assaulted.


[31-May-20 07:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Actually it all makes sense for me


[31-May-20 07:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They sweep streets from thugs


[31-May-20 07:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM8Y6uPH-R4

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Uncut L.A. Riot Footage- Reginald Denny Beating / Looting
Taken place at the intersection of 71st and Normandie, semi-truck driver Reginald Denny is beaten without reason for an insufferable amount of time. Date of the incident is 4/29/1992.

Thankfully, due to the live broadcast of this footage on the news,  Bobby Green Jr. of South...
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[31-May-20 07:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If you want your street to be cleaned, keep in your house and do not provoke riot police


[31-May-20 07:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They don't want to let potential rioters to gang up on them, so they act first


[31-May-20 07:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It may seem like a savage measure, but riot is a serious thing


[31-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make it okay.


[31-May-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police should not be hurting people just because they fear them.


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment the police use preemptive force is the moment the police all deserve to be immediately fired.


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people should make the police and all officials **FEAR THEM**


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They shouted orders and people ignored them.


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't fukking care


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they were given a warning


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ok


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
just because you shout a fukking order doesn't make it okay


[31-May-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
THOSE ORDERS ARE WRONG.


[31-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
THE POLICE INVOLVED SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO WORK IN GOVERNMENT


[31-May-20 07:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[31-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police need to fear the people.


[31-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people must make them pay.


[31-May-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The courts should not turn a blind eye when the police hurt people.


[31-May-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thug"


[31-May-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
In case you havn't been paying attention, the entire problem with US policing is that the police giv horrible, often outright illegal orders and then hurt anyone who doesn't immediately obey.


[31-May-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they shoot your fukking dog regardless of what you do.


[31-May-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police intentionally escalate things because they want power, and they know almost no court will hold them accountable.


[31-May-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not fear when they take action, they will hurt anyone they want to.


[31-May-20 07:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No one will listen or conform to meeping feeble people politely asking you to stop rioting 5 times before someone throws molotov in the face


[31-May-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they do fear something, they shoot first and ask questions never.


[31-May-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody was fukking rioting in that video.


[31-May-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some people were on their lawn observing the police march thru the streets.


[31-May-20 07:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is NOT okay to order people inside their houses when they are doing nothing wrong while making everyone in the neighborhood fearful.


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is EXACTLY what causes this kind of rioting to begin with.


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
People feel wronged and scared and they lash out as a result.


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They want people who are not living there to remain after the rest is in their houses
Simple


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those people ARE living there.


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought they only riot if they notice "their" neighbourhood starts looking more brown


[31-May-20 07:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Those who remain are criminals
That's how it works


[31-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
People were on their own fukking lawn.


[31-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not okay.


[31-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just paint everyone as a criminal for sitting there watching.


[31-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically a mass warrant.


[31-May-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
AMERICA WAS LITERALLY FOUNDED TO **STOP THAT**


[31-May-20 07:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
In the end, it will make the work easier and minimize innocent casualties when non-rioters stay at home


[31-May-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-rioters should be out and about recording the fukking horrible shit the police are doing.


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] jlun2#8758
> AMERICA WAS LITERALLY FOUNDED TO STOP THAT
lets make our own space merica


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they are not, then only the rioters and the police get to say what went on.


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are biased towards themselves and cannot be trusted about their own conduct.


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rioters are biased towards themselves and cannot be trusted about the police's conduct.


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
YOU NEED RECORDING BY THIRD PARTIES


[31-May-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the **only** way to get reliable information.


[31-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very, very important to having any idea what's going on and actually assessing the situation.


[31-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the police to assault non-rioters for recording things is them essentially tampering with fukking evidence to protect themselves.


[31-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that is what they hav been REPEATEDLY doing in these instances.


[31-May-20 07:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So far the only vids I see in the web are savages beating passing people up for no reason
No police beating black people to death :twismug:


[31-May-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police hav been arresting journalists, shooting rubber bullets at journalists, and threatening them.


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] byte[]#2610
did you not see the video of Ahmaud Arbery getting shot


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] byte[]#2610
or the cop kneeling on George Floyd's neck


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rioters have been harassing and throwing shit at journalists as well


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] I am talking about ongoing riot


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A common theme going in is no one likes journalists...


[31-May-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they shouldn't be, but fundamentally, if you are a gov't worker, and you assault people for recording shit, you should lose your job.


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should not be the go-to standard to say "it's okay when the police do this because they gave an order and a warning"


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The order and warning are themselves a problem.


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You say like martial law is unlawful


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are for stopping crimes, like people assaulting journalists and burning shit.


[31-May-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are not for stopping gathering information on police activity.


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Martial law requires specific conditions.


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
If those conditions aren't met, it is supposed to be unlawful.


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Martial law has to be declared by a governor and is very specific


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Democracy 101.


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Police can't just roll up and start yelling orders


[31-May-20 07:37 AM] byte[]#2610
The law, and especially not martial law is not a good reflection of what the law ought to be


[31-May-20 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There is absolutely no right for police to assault people on their own property for "not following orders"


[31-May-20 07:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If people actually cared about the 2nd amendment those sort of police would be getting shot at for the temerity of that bs


[31-May-20 07:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am sure they will make an excuse like "they looked like rioters" though :twismug:


[31-May-20 07:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And nothing will go bad


[31-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make it okay.


[31-May-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact they will likely avoid punishment is a significant part of what's wrong here.


[31-May-20 07:44 AM] illumnious#7938
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[31-May-20 07:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
imagine thinking that police is not the hammer of government


[31-May-20 07:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twicrazy:


[31-May-20 07:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
replying to that woke vid from instagram


[31-May-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
V for Vendetta.


[31-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm3nQPOWycI

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People should not be afraid of their governments.
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. The clip is from "V for Vendetta".
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[31-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the character that inspired the look of Anonymous.


[31-May-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
2020 is looking a lot like the world from V for Vendetta btw.


[31-May-20 07:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun/status/1266906235531661317

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[31-May-20 07:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder what happens outside the shot


[31-May-20 07:58 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Probably something not as ebin


[31-May-20 07:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You're staring at a mass protest and wondering what's happening outside the shot?


[31-May-20 07:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A mass protest. That's what's happening.


[31-May-20 07:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/NorbertElekes/status/1266932132158603264

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[31-May-20 08:00 AM] byte[]#2610
"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."


[31-May-20 08:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It all sounds woke af but for some reason no one is able to make something better and functioning
It is really easy to break systems as people from USA should know well
Considering it is what their country does to others


[31-May-20 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of western Europe has much better policing than the US.


[31-May-20 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hell, most of *Africa* has better policing, the US is a low bar.


[31-May-20 08:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not as corrupt as some ex-soviet states, but it's damn close.


[31-May-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In ex Soviet states people bribe the police


[31-May-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That would actually be a benefit to some in the US.


[31-May-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, police in the US won't take bribes cause they can get more money by stealing your stuff.


[31-May-20 08:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:xd:


[31-May-20 08:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds fun.


[31-May-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
My state is one of the few that abolished it.


[31-May-20 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/716540307587465267/Screenshot_20200530-233339.jpg

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[31-May-20 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
right up your alley :raep:


[31-May-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno, I find eating garbage repulsive.

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[31-May-20 08:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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Mass arrests happening now in downtown Houston, being transported away via buses... I’ve never seen so many police in my life https://t.co/9x8z6BD8my
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[31-May-20 09:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They must have never saw police stations then


[31-May-20 09:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:xd:


[31-May-20 10:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 10:11 AM] byte[]#2610
> George Floyd's mother said to me - a tremendous amount of mothers are saying- they're saying, the mothers say when they call what a great job I'm doing. They say I'm doing a tremendous job with race relations when the mothers call. There's a lot of pai- a lot of str- bad stuff. Tremendously bad stuff going on right now. But they say, they say to me, you're doing such a fantastic job, the best job. They're saying to me Donald, they say, Donald you're doing so temendous you're doing fantastic. All this bad stuff has got to go. The choking and the kneeling with the neck, all of it. All of it has to go. But the violence. The violence with the rioters. They're breaking things. They're breaking shops and they're breaking the... the lots of things. They're breaking everything with the riots. And it has to end.


[31-May-20 10:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 10:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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Completely ineffectual
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[31-May-20 11:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```I know europe has the stellarator but China doesn't just want a proof of concept they want it on the grid in 20 years which is pretty bold plan cause even a coal plant in the US can take 10 years to build```
5-year plan in 4 years. They can want all they want and they can _probably_ have a proof-of-concept but that's where it would likely end.


[31-May-20 11:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 11:26 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
why would america want 9mm when cops can get military grade weapons


[31-May-20 11:26 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:ponkthonk:


[31-May-20 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
OOF


[31-May-20 11:52 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 12:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That dude just clarifying he's not racist


[31-May-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/05/riots-ravage-downtown-cleveland-after-protests-over-george-floyds-death-turn-violent.html

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Storefronts along Euclid Avenue were smashed and looted after protests in downtown Cleveland over George Floyd's death turned violent.
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[31-May-20 12:30 PM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] _It doesn't matter who's blood flows, just that it flows._


[31-May-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Rochester/comments/gtu29d/husband_and_wife_beaten_with_2x4s_while_defending/

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[31-May-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
look at all the white supremacists fantasizing about shooting the attackers in the comments

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[31-May-20 12:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1266948486848749570

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[31-May-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
the full video, they apparently the dude swinging around a sword can't be confirmed as the store owner


[31-May-20 01:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.humbleisd.net/cms/lib/TX01001414/Centricity/Domain/5174/Curfew%20-%20Against.pdf


[31-May-20 01:12 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: all curfews outside of martial law are unconstitutional


[31-May-20 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
I linked this to a bunch of conservatives when they were saying the people on their porch should've listened to the unlawful orders they were given


[31-May-20 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
they actually mocked it


[31-May-20 01:15 PM] Crow#5457
they mocked the constitution they so readily hoist up for stuff it was never meant to be applied to

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[31-May-20 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, they already do that with the bible, so no surprise there


[31-May-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/500212-gop-deeply-divided-over-trumps-social-media-crackdown

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Conservatives are deeply divided over President Trump’s executive order directing the federal government to consider stripping some of the legal protections afforded to the social media platforms.
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[31-May-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/gttccz/hacktivist_group_anonymous_takes_down_minneapolis/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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[31-May-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/amp/

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Every Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of Stat...
"The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd," Gov. Tim Walz said.
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[31-May-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Liberal twitter be like


[31-May-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1266895403083083777

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Intel reports say Russia is trying to stoke chaos in US before election. Mission accomplished.  https://t.co/snjld35eru
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[31-May-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Protocols of the Elders of Moscow"


[31-May-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
they have to blame _someone_.


[31-May-20 02:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, even if Russia isn't the force behind the Liberate X astroturf campaign, it would be foolhardy to ignore the fact that bots *already known to be Russian* have been taking full advantage of this opportunity to boost hashtags etc


[31-May-20 02:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrQt7t98gsM

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[31-May-20 02:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But even if that weren't the case, *someone* is using the playbook Russia did as described in the senate intel committee report on the GRU


[31-May-20 02:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And *someone* with deep pockets coordinated the astroturf


[31-May-20 02:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But Russia certainly can't be blamed for what our own police force is doing across the country


[31-May-20 02:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's on them


[31-May-20 02:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Betsy DeVos


[31-May-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.richmond.com/news/local/updated-daughters-of-confederacy-headquarters-on-fire-2-capitol-police-offers-injured-as-violence-erupts/article_a2299cb2-367a-5f13-a107-97a4ca8a1f68.amp.html

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UPDATED: Daughters of Confederacy headquarters on fire, 2 Capitol P...
3 a.m. update: An apartment building at 309 W. Broad St. was on fire as protesters still marched through the streets of Richmond.
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[31-May-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
LET IT BURN


[31-May-20 02:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also http://communia.blog/communist-strikes-in-the-us/

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"Communist" strikes in the US
While the US media focuses its attention on "racial conflicts" in a not so innocent way, a series of day laborers' strikes in Washington state this month has shown much more clearly the forms and alternatives of the emergence of workers as a class.
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[31-May-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BloodborneGame/status/1266925909048786947?s=20
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I’m not condoning violence, but police cars look better on fire. It’s just facts
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i cAN’t beLiEve a GAme aBouT SurViVinG a niGHt iN a tOWn fULL oF AngRy hYPOcRitiCAL rAciCtS is tWEetING abOUt pOLiTicaL isSUeS
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[31-May-20 03:12 PM] Crow#5457
> The headquarters of the United Daughters of the Confederacy was ablaze in the early hours on Sunday morning as protests raged in Richmond.


[31-May-20 03:13 PM] Crow#5457
finally, a proper thing to burn


[31-May-20 03:13 PM] Crow#5457
get fucked confederate sympathizers


[31-May-20 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317/status/1266945268567678976?s=20

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Police just raided the gas station we were sheltering at. After shouting press multiple times and raising my press card in the air, I was thrown to the ground. Then another cop came up and peppered sprayed me in the face while I was being held down. https://t.co/23EkZIMAFC
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[31-May-20 03:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
The Combine soldiers of the Universal Union are more civilized than US cops


[31-May-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317/status/1266938990298574848?s=20

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Police had weapons trained on a group of us. We held up our press passes. One kept his rifle on us while the others continued to fire foam baton rounds. https://t.co/duZu5zzzZI
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[31-May-20 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1267082052211523586?s=20

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https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1267082052211523586?s=20
Protests are taking place in London in solidarity with the protests in the United States following the death of George Floyd.

Read the latest here: https://t.co/qSGniCQiLQ https://t.co/OHMMYIeVye
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[31-May-20 03:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Communist strike wtf


[31-May-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hispanic laborers are lit as hell because they already come from countries gutted out by US capitalism


[31-May-20 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/tomakeupwityou/status/1266920326182641670?s=21

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beautiful moments during protests that the media won’t show; a thread 🖤
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[31-May-20 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618613988909121546/716643957488091136/image0.jpg

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[31-May-20 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa Sonic


[31-May-20 03:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa Sonic


[31-May-20 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/OmegaDorkus/status/1267081199224336384?s=20

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Near 😷 (@OmegaDorkus)
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Cops flashing white power hand gesture at George Floyd protestors. DISGUSTING!  #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/z0lpbl5kwO
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[31-May-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-violent-protests-change-politics

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How Violent Protests Change Politics
A politics professor at Princeton discusses civil-rights-era protest tactics, what violent protests have meant for elections, and whether Donald Trump is a figure of disorder.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ed1699c682c2f11ba7ecb1f/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/Chotiner-ViolentProtests.jpg


[31-May-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
interesting read about the science of protests


[31-May-20 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
the nonviolent protesters of MLK actually chose cities to protest in strategically


[31-May-20 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
so that the police would brutalize peaceful protesters


[31-May-20 03:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1267089698905821185

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Protesters in Ferguson set up a guillotine in a parking lot.
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[31-May-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/6cop02A.mp4 sound

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[31-May-20 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
strategically cropped too.


[31-May-20 04:22 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/gregtannen/status/1266920517518450689?s=21

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The news is also losing it tonight https://t.co/KWHdsvQo6i
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[31-May-20 04:27 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Not to be sexist but the word "gamer girl" is becoming so cringe that there's no need for gender specific gamers


[31-May-20 04:27 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why not just "gamers"


[31-May-20 04:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
We don't need to genderize a title


[31-May-20 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Indeed, that way we can exterminate gamers without worrying about gender selection


[31-May-20 04:29 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
When did the terms policeman and policewoman fade away?


[31-May-20 04:30 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
No one ever calls cops policemen nowadays

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[31-May-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
gamers is cringe supreme already :D


[31-May-20 04:35 PM] Opponent#3498
someone who defines themselves in wasting their lives in video games...


[31-May-20 04:35 PM] Opponent#3498
like, this isn't a hobby. Or a passtime.


[31-May-20 04:35 PM] Opponent#3498
this is their definitive feature.


[31-May-20 04:35 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does everything have to suck if you're a female?


[31-May-20 04:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In games, there are thirsty people


[31-May-20 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20200530/k00/00m/040/179000c

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「警官に押さえ込まれけが」　渋谷署前で200人が抗議デモ　クルド人訴えに共鳴 - 毎日新聞
東京都渋谷区の路上で警察官2人に押さえ込まれるなどして首に全治1カ月のけがをした外国人男性（33）を巡り、30日、市民らによる警察への抗議デモがあった。一緒にいた友人が撮影した動画がインターネットを通じて拡散したことで約200人が集まり、警視庁渋谷署前などで「外国人を差別するな」などと声を上げた。
https://cdn.mainichi.jp/vol1/2020/05/30/20200530k0000m040183000p/0c8.jpg?1


[31-May-20 04:40 PM] ononim#8141
Was told in the other server that this is about Kurdish immigrant protest in Japan against racialy charged police violence there but I am not fluent in moon runes so can't verify


[31-May-20 04:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MsSaiFox/status/1266789588552413184

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Sai Fox, Quarantine 2: Electric Boogaloo (@MsSaiFox)
https://twitter.com/MsSaiFox/status/1266789588552413184
@BananaShiki @_Zakksu_ To give a bit of background: here in Tokyo, last week on the 23rd a Kurdish man was unlawfully stopped. He was removed from his car and told to get on his knees. 

When he asked why, they kicked his knees out from under him and pinned him to the police ...
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[31-May-20 04:41 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@ononim weird anime shit


[31-May-20 04:42 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/WaLieeeeeeee/status/1267098010590359553?s=20

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I slept for a couple hours and wake to this. #Anonymous isn't playing around, and I'm just happy they're finding the evidence we all knew existed. https://t.co/1jAklJwEY3

#Anonymous
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[31-May-20 04:42 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[31-May-20 04:42 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
So Anonymous is back, and probably just pulled the hacking of a lifetime


[31-May-20 04:43 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why did @SkreeBot skree?

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[31-May-20 04:43 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's so random


[31-May-20 04:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
twitter handle


[31-May-20 04:47 PM] AG-NRG#0405
If that's true why don't they release the information to the public?


[31-May-20 04:47 PM] AG-NRG#0405
People can't possibly think they're just gonna take their word for it


[31-May-20 04:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
first of all isn't this already public


[31-May-20 04:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
second, you don't play your hand all at once


[31-May-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was the digital equivalent of sending a finger


[31-May-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they still want the ransom, but soemtimes you gotta send a finger to make it real for the people you're trying to ransom


[31-May-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The bigger issue is that anyone who *would* take this at face value have been co-opted by QAnon and therefore will never believe it


[31-May-20 04:52 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is Anonymous using social media?


[31-May-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they always have


[31-May-20 04:52 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If that's a privacy concern for them


[31-May-20 04:53 PM] AG-NRG#0405
The one who uses it isn't a hacker and hasn't done anything illegal, it's just an informant


[31-May-20 04:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Still, they could track the location based on IP


[31-May-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then what?


[31-May-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the person runnign thew media page isnt the one obtaining the information


[31-May-20 04:54 PM] Crow#5457
@prism stryder(intexda) https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/sacramento/sacramento-county-sheriffs-office-launches-excessive-force-investigation/103-80227c9d-0447-4233-bfdc-ddd2255a5a6f

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Sacramento sheriff investigating video that shows deputy kick man d...
The Instagram post reveals the officers later determined they had the wrong guy. While he did not apparently have a warrant, he was arrested for resisting arrest.
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[31-May-20 04:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean the authorities have the power to gather some data that's essential for them


[31-May-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they likely wouldnt have any useful information the police could mine off them


[31-May-20 04:55 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's the point


[31-May-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, so it would be pointless to go after them


[31-May-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tracking them would be a waste of time and police resources


[31-May-20 04:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Do you know who's Richard Stallman? he's...a crazy guy


[31-May-20 04:56 PM] AG-NRG#0405
IP addresses are useless because they would never do anything without a VPN anyways


[31-May-20 04:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't like the advertisements of VPNs


[31-May-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We tracked the guy to a server in norway inside a vpn building!"


[31-May-20 04:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It actually ruins the reputation of some YouTubers


[31-May-20 04:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Having a VPN is a privilege


[31-May-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a free vpn


[31-May-20 04:58 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's not an essential


[31-May-20 04:58 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm using a free VPN at the moment


[31-May-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s actua;lly pretty good cyber security that keeps people from tracking you


[31-May-20 04:59 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't have any problems of VPNs


[31-May-20 04:59 PM] AG-NRG#0405
A VPN is a privilege in the US. It is essential in Asia where the internet is constantly monitored


[31-May-20 05:00 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I just don't like that VPNs are awfully advertised in a cringe level


[31-May-20 05:00 PM] AG-NRG#0405
Also you're saying that like it's all VPNs who do that


[31-May-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s mostly nordvpn


[31-May-20 05:00 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
NordVPN and Dashlane


[31-May-20 05:01 PM] AG-NRG#0405
Yeah. 2. Out of hundreds


[31-May-20 05:01 PM] AG-NRG#0405
:ponk_hurr:


[31-May-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i use ??? vpn


[31-May-20 05:01 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does the underrated VPNs sound better than the popular ones


[31-May-20 05:01 PM] AG-NRG#0405
Fyi, saying what VPN you're using isn't very secure


[31-May-20 05:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Nord and Dash advertising sounds like a shady business


[31-May-20 05:02 PM] AG-NRG#0405
Advertising is advertising


[31-May-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh probably but youtubers need to obtain money somehow and it pays the bills


[31-May-20 05:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
YouTubers that don't really use the product


[31-May-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
again, paying the bills


[31-May-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most youtubers with sponsers have youtube as their full time job


[31-May-20 05:03 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there any YouTuber that doesn't have sponsors lol


[31-May-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cASUal non full tiem youtubers?


[31-May-20 05:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
MamaMax doesn't even sponsor


[31-May-20 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
also, that stuff about the lawsuit that anonymous released was PUBLIC INFORMATION IN 2016


[31-May-20 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't release anything new in that screencapped post


[31-May-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
hell, the actual link to that court filing has been posted in this channel a few times over the past 2 years


[31-May-20 05:05 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
While the sponsors are nice and all, there's this one fucking kind of sponsor I hate: mobile games


[31-May-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
this is like a kid doing a basic google search and hoisting it up as if they had to hack into a government-owned server to get the information


[31-May-20 05:06 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Especially Raid shadow legends


[31-May-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
wait, are people talking about VPNs?


[31-May-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[31-May-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY

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Tom Scott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY
This Video Is Sponsored By ███ VPN
I tried to write a more honest VPN commercial. The sponsor wasn't happy about it. • Get ██ days of ███ VPN free at ██████.com/honest

The ASA ruling I referenced: https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/tefincom-sa-a19-547668.html

I'm at https://tomscott.com
on Twitter at https://twit...
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[31-May-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
VPNs are shady af


[31-May-20 05:07 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Then talking about the shitty mobile games


[31-May-20 05:07 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why do bad games mostly exist on mobile than on any other platform?


[31-May-20 05:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267084931945168897?s=19

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WATCH THIS: "Justice" for #GeorgeFloyd in Rochester NY when a Villa Shoes was looted. Looters stop cars in traffic to loot the store.

Video via Dawayne Fields Facebook https://t.co/muTvIHxePH https://t.co/UeYcSSy1zl
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[31-May-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
re the dropkick video,

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[31-May-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They got the wrong guy, and after unlawfully arresting him (and assaulting him) they switch to arrested for resisting arrest


[31-May-20 05:10 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Does Hawaii ever get protests?


[31-May-20 05:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My Twitter account is locked again... wtf


[31-May-20 05:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I posted nothing this time, just followed some furry porn artists


[31-May-20 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxK8VzylOrQ

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Get a 2nd Job
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Black Business Owner Confronts Looters in Los Angeles - 1992 L.A. R...
Filmed during the L.A. Riots in 1992.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_AK4Ya5aoM&list=UUxChaz33jKSmoghOCRZZd9A
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[31-May-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1267078626031349761?s=21

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President Trump: "Our country is doing well." https://t.co/KmRzSMkLhd
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[31-May-20 05:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Since when?


[31-May-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gttaf9/rochester_ny_05302020_store_owner_uses_shotgun_to/

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r/ThatsInsane - Rochester, NY, 05-30-2020: Store owner uses shotgun...
718 votes and 66 comments so far on Reddit
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[31-May-20 06:05 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's absurd that there are so many political organizations that are either crazy batshit or stupid


[31-May-20 06:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That truck story got a continuation
https://twitter.com/KeithMillerMor1/status/1266910375200473095
https://ktvz.com/news/national-world/2020/05/31/man-dragged-by-fedex-truck-dies-during-night-of-george-floyd-protests-in-st-louis/

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Semi truck go VROOOOOM! https://t.co/xqLKGDQ6kZ
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CNN
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Man dragged by FedEx truck dies during night of George Floyd protes...
Click here for updates on this story     ST. LOUIS (KMOV ) — A man was killed after being dragged by a FedEx truck overnight in downtown St. Louis during a night of protests, police said Saturday. The incident happened near N. Broadway and O’Fallon shortly after 3:00 a.m. The ...
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[31-May-20 06:06 PM] illumnious#7938
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[31-May-20 06:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
```Police said two people standing on the passenger side footboard of the truck pointed guns at the driver.

Demonstrators were also seen running off with packages from the truck.

The truck driver, fearing for his safety police said, sounded his horn then drove off.```


[31-May-20 06:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Demonstrators


[31-May-20 06:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[31-May-20 06:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek


[31-May-20 06:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This ad is too American


[31-May-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
9mm AKs. Jesus...


[31-May-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
crime against nature, humanity and common sense.


[31-May-20 06:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hope that fedex truck driver wont get in trouble


[31-May-20 06:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Same


[31-May-20 06:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Emmm... is 9mm thick?


[31-May-20 06:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
bullet caliber


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
9x19


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ye


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
pistol bullet


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
while real ak is either 7.62(older one) or 5.45


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've been seeing this on FB many timee

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[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.gunbuyer.com/century-7-62x39-vska-wd-blk-us-cenri3284-n-d.html


[31-May-20 06:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Buy online, shipped in 3 days!


[31-May-20 06:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hahah


[31-May-20 06:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Gun sellers don't waste their time!


[31-May-20 06:12 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@AlchemistLiang more like Russian


[31-May-20 06:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its a shame u cant buy real AK in russia


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I know nothing about guns


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If a child participates in protests, then it will be treated like a protester, right?


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nothing wrong with this imo.


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nah


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Kids cant choose for themself


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This girl doesn't even know what a protest is


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Their parents brought them here


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny that conservatives are blaming the parents for bringing their child, not the policeman who thought it was prudent to pepper spray a kid


[31-May-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, at least they learn how shitty police is i guess


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
it's peak victim blaming


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, that


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
blame both sides


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also mistifying children as these creatures who are completely easily manipulated


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why doesn't the government give proper training on police?


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As if free will is absent in them


[31-May-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same tactic used by transphobes for example


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine bringing your child to such place.
Good parenting, I tell you.


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, we know nothing of the kid besides the fact she was hurt


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like a problem about police brutality


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
She's like 10 or 11


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What else u need to know


[31-May-20 06:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's true love from parents


[31-May-20 06:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Makes European police better i guess


[31-May-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Smug Trixie whether she chose to go there


[31-May-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Duh


[31-May-20 06:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Federal government has no power over the state, the state has no power over local and county


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
an 11 y.o. can't make an informed decision about the risks involved in protesting.


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
same as trans stuff really...

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[31-May-20 06:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Police organization in the US is a total decentralized mess with no standards in training or policing and very little communication and cooperation


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is the US the only shitty federal government


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
far from it.


[31-May-20 06:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just overbearingly relevant


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I can't find any other country that is federal


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I will tell you, some people weaponize children.
So it is not surprising kid was maced at all.


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What if kid held a knife.


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
We don't know.


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it is true that children being hurt or abused can be used to justify a cause


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One county might have military-grade training and high recruitment standards with a by-the-book approach to policing, the next county over might be just a bunch of guys that flunked highschool and joined the force because they didn't have any nerds to bully anymore


[31-May-20 06:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@SymphonyDawn3 Russia


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that does not justify them being hurt or abused


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Germany is federal


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Teaspoon I guess town-based police are worse


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we got federal government that every region pay taxes and shit


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Since it's rural


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil too is a federal republic


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same with Argentina


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I am seeing some things on here that could be lifted straight from a russian government statement.


[31-May-20 06:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine 5 kids like this holding a grown ass man while adults start to beat the shit out of the officer.


[31-May-20 06:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends, some towns will be great because the police happen to be good people and only accept good people, others will just be the loudest asshole that wanted to powertrip and just lets his buddies in


[31-May-20 06:20 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Smug Trixie Russia has like 85 divisions


[31-May-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
> we got federal government that every region pay taxes and shit
@Smug Trixie i know government need taxes, but why does the government need shit?


[31-May-20 06:20 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
More than 50 states


[31-May-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@AlchemistLiang figure of speech


[31-May-20 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@AlchemistLiang kek


[31-May-20 06:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"And shit" is stand in for "et cetera"


[31-May-20 06:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh...


[31-May-20 06:21 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Teaspoon Anything near Canada has to be good right?


[31-May-20 06:22 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Some towns in northern counties of northern states kinda share the Canadian feel lol


[31-May-20 06:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder how this shit with black people rampaging through that state will affect corona.


[31-May-20 06:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Since obviously it is not very sanitary


[31-May-20 06:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
of course it will


[31-May-20 06:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[31-May-20 06:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[31-May-20 06:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@PwnyPony is this UK police?


[31-May-20 06:26 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Has murder hornets been a thing?


[31-May-20 06:27 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I know it's something not new


[31-May-20 06:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
First of all, they are japanese giant hornets, not "murder hornets".


[31-May-20 06:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or asian, not japanese.


[31-May-20 06:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So far it's been only speculations they may kill local bees.


[31-May-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're still an invasive species, but like most invasive species they dont have an immediate impact on anything and aren;t as common to run into as the news made them out to be


[31-May-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted, in the long run thye might become a problem


[31-May-20 06:30 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The media makes them scary


[31-May-20 06:30 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
As they only live in forests


[31-May-20 06:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>granted, in the long run thye might become a problem

If no one out of local animals will find them delicious.


[31-May-20 06:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like badgers


[31-May-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true they could just be hunted out of existance as well


[31-May-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not every invasive species is as succesfull as the yellow crazy ants on christmas island


[31-May-20 06:31 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What's with the media making an insect scary as if hornets have been in America for a long time


[31-May-20 06:32 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Entomologists hunting down poor hornets for their collections.


[31-May-20 06:32 PM] PwnyPony#6185
These ones are bigger and deadlier.


[31-May-20 06:33 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And? The Japanese lived through it


[31-May-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the japanese honeybee evolved to live through it


[31-May-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our honeybees have no such evolutionary experience


[31-May-20 06:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They may affect local animals, so people are worried.

I recall someone introduced african snails to States


[31-May-20 06:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They basically started eating gypsum walls for calcium
And all local vegetation


[31-May-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was also the africanized honey bee debacle


[31-May-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is that still an issue in america?


[31-May-20 06:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Snails?
I think they were banned after that


[31-May-20 06:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Even as pets


[31-May-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bees


[31-May-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the angry swarming deadly bees


[31-May-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/14/aggressive-swarm-bees-kill-dogs-tuscon-arizona/5189124002/ welp, i got my answer

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[31-May-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I think I saw some recent show where people tasted killer bee honey, so yeah


[31-May-20 06:36 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Minecraft bees are real


[31-May-20 06:38 PM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Bees


[31-May-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_bee

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[31-May-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not an invasive species, just an interesting one


[31-May-20 06:39 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Nature you scary


[31-May-20 06:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_crazy_ant this is the crazy ant i mentioned earlier

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Yellow crazy ant
The yellow crazy ant (Anoplolepis gracilipes) is a species of ant, introduced accidentally to northern Australia and Christmas Island in the Indian Ocean, that has caused ecological damage in both locations and is now found in the northern suburbs of Brisbane.
It is colloquial...
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[31-May-20 06:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these guys became a major problem and have pretty much destroyed an native species of crab


[31-May-20 06:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ants also eat chicks alive


[31-May-20 06:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
In nests


[31-May-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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Black teenager shot in face by Sacramento police tonight
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[31-May-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
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How the police handle peaceful protestors kneeling in solidarity
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[31-May-20 06:56 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 06:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
cringe


[31-May-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644228247552

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The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.
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[31-May-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Scapegoat scapegoat scapegoat


[31-May-20 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll either add it to the _foreign_ terrorist group list


[31-May-20 07:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or it'll be the one single entry in the all new domestic terrorist group list

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[31-May-20 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminder that the KKK and the radical christian groups that murdered people at abortion clinics are _not_ classified as terrorists


[31-May-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does it change anything in regards to persecution of these groups


[31-May-20 07:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Antifa, i mean


[31-May-20 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[31-May-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Other than confirming what is already business


[31-May-20 07:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's just posturing unless Trump wants to admit that domestic terrorism wasn't a think until _he_ got into office


[31-May-20 07:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i could see Biden using that as a campaign argument


[31-May-20 07:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/royaleprick/status/1266965186583375877

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This is great: Chicago PD’s radios are being jammed by someone playing Remove Kebab https://t.co/lImV8vCWCf
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[31-May-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/anonymous-hackers-minneapolis-police-department-website-george-floyd-1234621332/

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Did Hacktivist Group Anonymous Take Down Minneapolis PD Website?
The internet was abuzz late Saturday night with speculation that Anonymous — the decentralized hacker collective — had successfully disabled the Minneapolis Police Department website, i…
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[31-May-20 07:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[31-May-20 07:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Kek


[31-May-20 07:06 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Something, something, consumed by themselves, something


[31-May-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s white guilt tho


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```But it's just posturing unless Trump wants to admit that domestic terrorism wasn't a think until he got into office```


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be wicked sick


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] Opponent#3498
the sickest burn there is xD


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
That would be beautiful


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
At the same time


[31-May-20 07:07 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah that too. "We helped you why are you attacking us"


[31-May-20 07:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Because that's what it's literally (d)evolved into


[31-May-20 07:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
If cannabalism wasn't frowned upon he'd probably have been eaten alive as he tried to leave


[31-May-20 07:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This will happen at any protest. people that are just looking smash and break things and start fights always show up. They don't care what the protest is about so long as they get to break shit and cause trouble.


[31-May-20 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
>Bee Movie's jokes are unintentionally prescient on 2020 events


[31-May-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
This timeline is cursed.


[31-May-20 07:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] implying communism and capitalism are systems that countries can individually choose to operate in


[31-May-20 07:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/1ybdk2m7d4251.jpg "Serve and Protect sculpture, Salt Lake City"

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[31-May-20 07:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Clever.

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[31-May-20 07:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[31-May-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
For even more context, the building on fire was in construction to be low income housing


[31-May-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And he's living in a gated community with its own security force


[31-May-20 07:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Guess he didn't want the poors moving into his neighbourhood.


[31-May-20 07:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapolis-riots-ferguson-1.5590678


[31-May-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Canada being Captain Obvious


[31-May-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yo i've been thinking


[31-May-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where and when do the rioters sleep?


[31-May-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
rotate shifts?


[31-May-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, people can't physiologically support so much nonstop rioting


[31-May-20 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They gotta rest somewhere


[31-May-20 08:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Am guessing some people have flats with 20 people inside them, for the out of town rioters


[31-May-20 08:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise no clue, abandoned buildings I guess


[31-May-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On the hard street floor? Sounds painful


[31-May-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But well, that already happens everywhere


[31-May-20 08:11 PM] ononim#8141
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[31-May-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Already linked.


[31-May-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
With huge discussion about it too.


[31-May-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Stooped thinks that police can do whatever they want and you're wrong to defy them.


[31-May-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[31-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
:dab:


[31-May-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I'd fire a fukker too if he said an incredibly dangerous technique that killed someone is A-OK when it's his job to tell people what to do and not to do in such situations.


[31-May-20 08:16 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Talk about ruining your career


[31-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically what the guy was saying was >>1831366


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[31-May-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the actual logic people even reporting the news sometimes use.


[31-May-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[31-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That a blakk guy killed must've had a heart condition or sikkle-cell, and therefore it's okay that lethal force was used, because it wasn't really to blame!


[31-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Haha that extreme use of force wouldn't kill a healthy person, see! It's all good! Eggshell skull rule doesn't exist!


[31-May-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, JFK died from an underlying heart condition


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember that time a blakk kid died in Florida and the news was like HE HAD SIKKLE CELL TRAIT


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
THEREFORE THAT'S HOW HE DIED


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was about to say I guess people don't know what eggshell skulls are


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or proximate cause


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lee Harvey Oswald? Shooter on the Grassy Knoll? No no, JFK's head was made of explodium.


[31-May-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would blow up from loud noises like gunshots near it!


[31-May-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Technically, people only die of heart failure


[31-May-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, sometimes, people get beheaded in accidents, and the heart is still beating, but the brain's dead.


[31-May-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Technically, people only die of brain failure.


[31-May-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Shot in the gut? It'll cause heart failure. Stabbed through the eye? Well, that'll cause heart failure


[31-May-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Brain activity generally isn't used to determine life/death


[31-May-20 08:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Beating heart is


[31-May-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, it was Martin Anderson.


[31-May-20 08:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
People with mechanical hearts are technically the living dead.

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[31-May-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
`The local medical examiner, Dr. Charles Siebert, performed an autopsy and ruled that the teen died of "complications from sickle cell trait". He said, "It was a natural death."[4]`


[31-May-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The guards were of course acquitted.


[31-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man


[31-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
That guy has his own website


[31-May-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
```Dr Siebert has been a board certified forensic pathologist for over 20 years and has worked as an Associate, Deputy Chief and Chief Medical Examiner for numerous Counties throughout Florida and New Jersey.  He relocated to New Jersey in 2008 where he accepted a position as Assistant State Medical Examiner.  In April of 2011 he left that position to form his own consultation company CFS Forensic Services, LLC.```


[31-May-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmmmm yeah sure relocating right after you rule a killing of a blakk teen was just random death.


[31-May-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmmmmmmm.


[31-May-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, and now I guess he's like, providing private detective help for the police.


[31-May-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably tells them just how to plant the evidence.


[31-May-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
(or interpret it to make sure the right people are blamed)


[31-May-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ooooh


[31-May-20 08:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-idUSKBN237022

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[31-May-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The second item on the top menu of his site


[31-May-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
which only has two items


[31-May-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
is "Refuse To Be a Victim"


[31-May-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about being part of the NRA.


[31-May-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's an NRA instructor.


[31-May-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's saying "shoot blakk people first, before they commit crime"


[31-May-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking confidence in the legal system status?


[31-May-20 08:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Nebbie r u still salty?


[31-May-20 08:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[31-May-20 08:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
that you have to bring me up


[31-May-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
no matter what he had on his site you'd find a way to turn that into racism


[31-May-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poisoning the well and ad hominem.


[31-May-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you wanna actually discuss it, discuss *it*.


[31-May-20 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
"If I had a dollar for every bad cop in the US, I still couldn't pay for a medical bill for being shot by a bad cop because my insurance wouldn't cover it c:"


[31-May-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'd sure like to know how "refuse to be a victim" being used by white people who get blakk kids' murders ruled natural causes isn't racist when it's basically exactly what the Black Panthers were saying with the same idea of having weapons to defend themselves from violence in response to Rodney King, only for the NRA to illegalize having guns on them.


[31-May-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
IOW:


[31-May-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people: We refuse to become victims. *Holds weapons*.
NRA: That's illegal now!


[31-May-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
White people: We refuse to become victims. *Holds weapons.*
NRA: We're making sure this is legal.


[31-May-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
is the NRA invincible or something? sorry if sounds dumb


[31-May-20 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I can just ask you for proof repeatedly until we both get bored. There's nothing to discuss here.


[31-May-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Invincible, no.


[31-May-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Muting.


[31-May-20 08:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Mod abuse


[31-May-20 08:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[31-May-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[31-May-20 08:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek, talk about excessive measures


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they clearly have way too much money in budget if they called so many officers and copter for guy not stopping at a sign


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I'm pretty sure shouting with a gun pointed at a guy isn't a normal way to try to arrest him over a traffic violation...


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Normally you'd walk up to the vehicle after he pulls in.


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, walk up to him while his hands are up instead of pointing a gun.


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's black, every cop knows black men are 3x stronger and can flip over cop cars on their own


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I can? :wat:


[31-May-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sad part is studies say they actually believe that.


[31-May-20 08:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[31-May-20 08:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Marukomuru that part of you awakens only when you get detained by a white cop :twismug:

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[31-May-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
When white Americans are shown pictures of blakk males and white males, they regularly overestimate age, physical size, and strength of the blakk males, while correctly estimating that of white males.


[31-May-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, many Americans see a 12-year-old blakk boy as a 20-year-old bodybuilder.


[31-May-20 08:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie even other blacks?


[31-May-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think it was a thing with only white study subjects.


[31-May-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd hav to look again to be sure.


[31-May-20 08:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Too much `black on white` porn consumed


[31-May-20 08:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[31-May-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
do they also clump mexicans as "black" ish ("they have dark skin reeeeeee")?


[31-May-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seems it was a W.E.I.R.D. study, which isn't too helpful https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older


[31-May-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, they looked at cops too


[31-May-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
@Stoopedhooy now im curious do they just love being dommed (and then compensate it in public by having large cars or whatever)


[31-May-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-11085-001


[31-May-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
This one looked at how people perceive others as potential threats.


[31-May-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similar trend.


[31-May-20 08:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder there is a former Green Beret special ops guy who never saw combat but is none of he same touring the country giving two day courses to train cops, armed citizens, and private security guys how to kill. Like the emotional and psychological preparedness of how to be ready to kill and to kill without a second thought. He is a major, leading figure.


[31-May-20 08:49 PM] AaronMk#4499
One of his major lines is everyone is an enemy, and as the hunter you have to wait for the enemy to come to you because you are two warriors hunting one another. Suspect everything, it is your duty to kill with righteous fury.


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] jlun2#8758
>  who never saw combat
sounds right


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's not how you're supposed to operate in the actual military.


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd throw you out for it.


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] jlun2#8758
>  who never saw combat
like this? :wheeze:


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's like the guy who played "snipe random civilians" in Iraq.


[31-May-20 08:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think his seminars are on YouTube.


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Treating everyone as a threat just reveals your position early and makes the locals not help you.


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
He's known to smack chairs in his excitement while he does his thing so they have to be super glued to the floor so they don't go sailing.


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's incredibly stupid tactically, but it works wonders for wooing local police.


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminder


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
that article a while bakk


[31-May-20 08:51 PM] AaronMk#4499
But it is an example of the fascist mentality where action comes first before thinking and everyone is the enemy


[31-May-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
was about how a cop DIDN'T shoot a blakk guy doing suicide by cop, and got fired for it


[31-May-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
*he was a marine*


[31-May-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically according to America's police forces, he's qualified to fight in combat against our enemies, but not deal with blakk people having domestic issues.


[31-May-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because on the latter, they expect more force to be applied faster.


[31-May-20 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the american police domestic training: "If you get called in for a domestic dispute, smash down the door and kill everyone inside"


[31-May-20 08:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> suicide by cop
🇺🇸


[31-May-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was actually a guy outside ranting and raving with an unloaded gun


[31-May-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
the 911 dispatcher knew the gun was unloaded, but didn't tell police

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[31-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ex-marine cop figured it out on his own, but had called for bakkup just in case.


[31-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bakkup arrived so fast, so eager, they smashed into his cruiser getting there


[31-May-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
100% white men right


[31-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
then immediately opened fire, thinking him a coward, and sending a bullet across two houses.


[31-May-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
and young too right


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He got fired for it being his 3rd incident


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
like millenial


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Incident 1: Incorrectly putting a citation INSIDE a vehicle, which he was told to do


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Incident 2: Allowing paramedics to attempt to save someone's life who might've been murdered.


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Incident 3: Not shooting the very second he was able to.


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
did he sue


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, and he won.


[31-May-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
wow


[31-May-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
They managed to show that his supervisor made shit up


[31-May-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
plus the bakkup actually did hesitate a moment before shooting


[31-May-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And therefore, logically


[31-May-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
they would hav to be fired if the same reasoning held.


[31-May-20 08:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hesitate more than 0.3 seconds


[31-May-20 08:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[31-May-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
> And therefore, logically
> they would hav to be fired if the same reasoning held.
i thought logic was a leftist hoax


[31-May-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Leftist stuff holds up in court.


[31-May-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's why conservatives fear the judicial system so much and try to control it.


[31-May-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Judges actually are trained to reason.


[31-May-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
even those conservative ones? huh


[31-May-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, but they often don't make it high up.


[31-May-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Once you fail basic reasoning, it's pretty easy to get kept out of higher judge positions.


[31-May-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do manage to get some crakkpots in tho.


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
would that ever backfire tho letting crackpots in for short term gain


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
In practice? No.


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just takes a lot of time.


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, he didn't get his job bakk.


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just money for compensation.


[31-May-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
He will likely never be a cop again.


[31-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
So in effect, the police department won.


[31-May-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
:sad:


[31-May-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds unchangeable


[31-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The precedent is pretty important, note.


[31-May-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he lost that case, the precedent would be that police MUST shoot first.


[31-May-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning that case means the next guy has it easier.


[31-May-20 09:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I think I will never live to the moment Nebbie talks shit about anyone but non-leftists


[31-May-20 09:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There are douches everywhere


[31-May-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
@Stoopedhooy nah they complain too in #shows-and-spoilers


[31-May-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tu quoque.


[31-May-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
no u


[31-May-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of actually addressing the argument, you're insisting there are other cases of bad shit that I am deliberately excluding for political reasons.


[31-May-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would sure love to hear what you actually take issue with about like, someone getting fired for using deadly force as a police officer, and how the leftists there were evil for it.


[31-May-20 09:05 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie so do you have any hope for US or nah  they're fucked


[31-May-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's hope, but it requires riots.


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
>  requires riots
police be like :glowing_eyes: more targets


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, depending on how broadly "leftists" is applied


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] jimm#1439
this could be a turning point


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I never see you talking shit about radical leftists, that is all


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twisilly:


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
you could just actually talk about like, SJUWs


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've put them down repeatedly in the past


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's just that you know, the topic here is police brutality


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> radical leftists
you mean those twitter folks :wheeze:


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yep


[31-May-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
and right now there are not radical leftists creating the problem


[31-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are white supremacists and authoritarians creating the problem.


[31-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would be kind of retarded to go "oh but someone said that this would be solved if all police were blakk"


[31-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of talking about like, people FUKKING DYING.


[31-May-20 09:07 PM] jlun2#8758
> if all police were blakk
not in my life time


[31-May-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can talk about like, Anita's dumbass views another time when there's less important shit going on.


[31-May-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
or the next since ppl will live forever by then and racism will rule forever


[31-May-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
(One of her views is "equality is sexist cause history, and to make things right we need to make women playable characters and put on a pedestal in every game", which basically turns into "Zelda wouldn't be sexist if Link were a woman")


[31-May-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 09:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
that's why I don't like riots, protests and similar stuff
Elites are always fine and protected


[31-May-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's everything.


[31-May-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elites do nothing but protect themselves.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And no way it ever  changes


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even in actual revolutions.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The majority of people beheaded in the French Revolution were peasants.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Elites always find a way.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to completely overturn the system to even snag SOME of them.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
there's an endless amount of rich old white men


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Riots are step one.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protests aren't even a step, really.


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is there much to say other than "let's eat the rich"?


[31-May-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[31-May-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you change how the police operate, you can make them protect the rich less.


[31-May-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The system can be subverted if things are done precisely.


[31-May-20 09:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They are fed by government, it is impossible


[31-May-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not impossible, just difficult.


[31-May-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds like something that'll degrade back to the previous status quo in a generation as ppl forget @Nebbie


[31-May-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
For an almost successful thing, look at what Bernie did to the Iowa primary


[31-May-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
betrayed by youth :sad:


[31-May-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He pulled just a few strings for transparency.


[31-May-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing caught fire as a result.


[31-May-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sometimes the hubris of the elites make them blind to sabotaging their control.


[31-May-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
As a result of this, it's very likely that Iowa will be forced to change away from caucuses entirely.

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[31-May-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, because of the outcries this helped fuel, Bernie is not being forced to giv up delegate share for deciding the DNC platform.


[31-May-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
(normally, a share of loser delegates get turned over for platform deciding)


[31-May-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie's entire deal is "you will change things to be more like me or you will set yourself on fire"


[31-May-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
is it wrong every time someone says "elite" i  assume some old conservative white man


[31-May-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[31-May-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Note btw that Iowa losing caucuses means it loses first.


[31-May-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
New Hampshire takes over as first, and the election cycle shrinks slightly.


[31-May-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
This completely kills political centering on Iowa in the Democratic party.


[31-May-20 09:17 PM] illumnious#7938
The UK have a protest as well


[31-May-20 09:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/JvYpSubrqrc

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[31-May-20 09:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, you are right @illumnious 
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52868465

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Thousands join protest over George Floyd death
People chant "black lives matter" after the killing of a black man by police in the US.
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[31-May-20 09:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Those are civilized people


[31-May-20 09:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[31-May-20 09:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Saw that on Instagram and a lady mentioned Beyoncé and Jay Z


[31-May-20 09:20 PM] illumnious#7938
For no reason


[31-May-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_IjoAdYIco

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[31-May-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[31-May-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[31-May-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Son of a bitch

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[31-May-20 09:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Thanks Google


[31-May-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
national geographic owns space


[31-May-20 09:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
lmao


[31-May-20 09:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
same for me


[31-May-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
this also happened before when a news channel claimed they now own NASA Mars footage


[31-May-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
gotta love the comments in posts like this https://derpibooru.org/images/2362735

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[31-May-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
"keep ur dern politics outta my ponies"


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh same


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine being such a g*mer


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Such posts are cringe


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
oh, artists aren't allowed to make social commentary anymore? :twismug:


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
why are gamers right wing again


[31-May-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
4chan


[31-May-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
ie. how does playing animal crossing get ppl to go full nazi


[31-May-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
animal crossing doesn't


[31-May-20 09:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>oh, artists aren't allowed to make social commentary anymore? :twismug: 

yes, artists are boob drawing monkeys :twiright:


[31-May-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
lmao


[31-May-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
.qa @Stoopedhooy artists are boob drawing monkeys


[31-May-20 09:30 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Stoopedhooy**:  artists are boob drawing monkeys).


[31-May-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
forgot to add :twiright:


[31-May-20 09:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:trixdisgust:


[31-May-20 09:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
RUINED


[31-May-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
@Raptorshy  fix the above quote pls sorry ^


[31-May-20 09:32 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am joking


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Im just going to post this again


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/JvYpSubrqrc

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[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cops


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Are


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Shooting


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
On


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Their


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Own


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
property


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
||their||


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
*their


[31-May-20 09:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
ftfy


[31-May-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This is America


[31-May-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not china


[31-May-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or nazi germany


[31-May-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or the ussr


[31-May-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY

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Director: Hiro Murai
Producer: Jason Cole of Doomsday with Ibra Ake and Fam Rothstein of Wolf + Rothstein
tour tickets and merchandise available at childishgambino.com
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[31-May-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This is happening right now


[31-May-20 09:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CASPOTOP


[31-May-20 09:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I wonder how many months it will take for people to forget about the whole thing.


[31-May-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
People still didn't forget about Ferguson.


[31-May-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They might not hav it on the top of their minds, but they remember.


[31-May-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody forgot about Rodney King either


[31-May-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
or Trayvon Martin


[31-May-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
or Breonna Taylor
or Ahmaud Arbery
or Tamir Rice
or Eric Garner


[31-May-20 09:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I meant for the media to move on.


[31-May-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-May-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media will move on instantly.


[31-May-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the campaign ads will bring it up.


[31-May-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1266923777075695616

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Cop FALLS OFF truck and immediately panics and pepper sprays nothing 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️:

#BlackLivesMatter #GeorgeFloydProtests #nycprotests #seattleprotest #chicagoprotest #austinprotest #losangelesprotests #slcprotest #miamiprotest #clevelandprotest #columbusprotest 
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[31-May-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like watching a fukking squid ink itself.

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[31-May-20 10:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kek why they do that


[31-May-20 10:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Was that a blessing?


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or he buffed that car?


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Without training, people treat it like the way to respond to fear.


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1267185107980496896?s=21

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Law & Order in Philadelphia, NOW! They are looting stores. Call in our great National Guard like they FINALLY did (thank you President Trump) last night in Minneapolis. Is this what voters want with Sleepy Joe? All Dems!
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[31-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like why people drop their sword in Minecraft.


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Trump thanking himself


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no he's part Trixie now.


[31-May-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, whatever


[31-May-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm calling it


[31-May-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think Warren will be VP


[31-May-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Personal issues aside, if she wins, Democrats lose a Senate seat


[31-May-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Philadelphia gonna cry? Gonna piss its pants maybe? Maybe shit and cum?


[31-May-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thank you BadgingBadger for shagging my mom


[31-May-20 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/500366-confederate-monuments-targeted-during-protests-in-multiple-states

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Confederate monuments targeted during protests in multiple states
Protesters have targeted Confederate monuments in multiple states during the demonstrations against the death of George Floyd.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/olemissconfederatestatue_030719_youtube.jpg


[31-May-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"The monument dedicated to Confederate President Jefferson Davis was covered with the sentence “cops ran us over” on its base and had a noose over its shoulder."

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[31-May-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Based


[31-May-20 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
Okay, Lee, fine


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Can we finish putting these monuments into storage yet


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
why the fuck is there a statue to the fucking Presidnet of CSA


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
To intimidate blacks


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
I mean, yes


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the only reason the statues were ever put up to begin with


[31-May-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
but they can't be using it as the reason they're openly saying, can't they?


[31-May-20 10:18 PM] jlun2#8758
its for whites to worship racism


[31-May-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well their open reason is "It;s a testament to history and we shouldnt forget our past"


[31-May-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
These people have no concept of judging history through an ethical lens if that is the case


[31-May-20 10:19 PM] jlun2#8758
does it need to be a statue tho to "not forget"


[31-May-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But they do in practice -- they worship these traitorous semi-feudalist fuckers


[31-May-20 10:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hitler statue when


[31-May-20 10:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[31-May-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they don't need the statues perse, but it's more for worship and intimidation reasons


[31-May-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@Stoopedhooy probably exists in their basement


[31-May-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some states have offered to just move them to a museum location, but nope! they gotta have them on display so they can point out how white a town is


[31-May-20 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1266952661791674370?s=21

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National Guard marches through a quiet residential neighborhood in #Minneapolis, screaming at citizens to get inside.

Soldiers stop to point their guns at residents on their balcony.

They yell “LIGHT THEM UP” as they fire riot control rounds at them.
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[31-May-20 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
whole thread of videos


[31-May-20 10:25 PM] ononim#8141
including of the police shooting at and arresting reporters


[31-May-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
>Chad


[31-May-20 10:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Virgin Cop vs the Chad Loder


[31-May-20 10:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[31-May-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Proliferation of "less lethal" weaponry seems to have been a cop's best dream come true


[31-May-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now they can just shoot random people willy nilly


[31-May-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
||https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1267035077403242496 || like random women just buying fucking grocerys

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Dallas: Another image of the young girl who was shot in the face with a rubber bullet by the police.

She is still holding her grocery bags.
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[31-May-20 10:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://deadline.com/2020/05/president-trump-antifa-declared-terrorist-organization-1202947652/

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[31-May-20 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Er, antifa's nebulous status as even an organization to begin with will make that difficult


[31-May-20 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a whole judicial process to mark a certain group as a "terrorist organization" iirc


[31-May-20 10:57 PM] jlun2#8758
so....wonder would that backfire now that we can add domestic things to list


[31-May-20 10:57 PM] ononim#8141
*excuse to call anyone protesting a terrorist time*


[31-May-20 10:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Now Trump can demand all those mean people with "antifa" posts on their twitter need to be banned from twitter and their details handed over to the NSA


[31-May-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antifa isnt even really a group so much as a gathering of counter protesters at each alt right protest


[31-May-20 10:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think Trump has the patience to brief all of congress on marking what is essentially a mode of thinking as a specific terror group


[31-May-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay I declare my own anti fascist group, we're called "Anne Franks"


[31-May-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
We're just Antifa with a new name.


[31-May-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also we still hav no organizational structure.


[31-May-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Can I haz terrorism label?


[31-May-20 10:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So this'll just be a symbolic gesture so far as such things go


[31-May-20 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like leftist agitators aren't persecuted already


[31-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think TSP's got it right.


[31-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is to say that Twitter must remove anti-fascist posts or else.


[31-May-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It ties in with his whole ENFORCE YOUR OWN TOSes EO


[31-May-20 11:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Might be a double side to Trump's recent social media EO


[31-May-20 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who knows, the big media groups like Zucc's empire might go with it


[31-May-20 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But again


[31-May-20 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*they already hamper leftist platforms lmao*


[31-May-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/166354453723742208/716443301816958996/EZOod41VcAETw-B.png

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[31-May-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[31-May-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Abolish the national service


[31-May-20 11:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Force all presidents to walk down the street and protect their own bodies by themselves


[31-May-20 11:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/imactuallynina/status/1266912627193774080?s=20

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Here is the video. On LIVE TV the APD just broke car windows, slashed tires, tazed both passengers and arrested both passengers for NOTHING. RIPPED THEM OUT OF THER CAR. #AtlantaRiots #ATLFORUS #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/9XFDEdq7qr
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[31-May-20 11:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like they have a sexual fetish for doing that


[31-May-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The police are a government funded terrorist organization


[31-May-20 11:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is what happens when you task a government organ with containing the social chaos you refuse to solve materially


[31-May-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The cops become sadistic, self-centered, and racist


[31-May-20 11:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Blackshirts, in a way


[31-May-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait no i cannot say that, Trump will arrest me for terrorism :xd:


[31-May-20 11:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1267055168060903425

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[31-May-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Protestors obstruct the police https://i.redd.it/5mfhruewpj151.jpg

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[31-May-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[31-May-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[31-May-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon probably relatable for your "friends" from school idk https://i.redd.it/9699p8oeqs151.png

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[31-May-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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THIS. IS. WHY. YOU. DO. NOT. TRUST. COPS. she went out there pretending to listen to the pain and grief of black people. she was praised all over the internet and used as an example of why we need more women leaders. only to turn around and do this. https://t.co/vLTjP9QX7N
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[31-May-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Live-action Zootopia remake is looking great.


[31-May-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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ANTIFA
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[31-May-20 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:squintyjack:


[31-May-20 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Billy Bragg takes a moment of his day to do some weird vibes with his Champagne Socialism


[31-May-20 11:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
Don't know why he's Stan Churchill but OK bruh, at least it wasn't Orwell


[31-May-20 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/jKVnur5DkdI

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Tear the fascists down - Woody Guthrie
This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we dont give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it,...
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[01-Jun-20 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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And when the world needed her the most...she vanished
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[01-Jun-20 12:01 AM] byte[]#2610
bepis


[01-Jun-20 12:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
who is she?


[01-Jun-20 12:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Those cops look too civilized.


[01-Jun-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
> who is she?
@Stoopedhooy 

Ad girl from a Pepsi commercial a few years ago that no one liked. I think they ran it during the Ferguson fallout


[01-Jun-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
pepsi ad girl


[01-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, it was about racism?


[01-Jun-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Basically girl goes to a protest and gives Pepsi to both sides and they become friends.

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[01-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek


[01-Jun-20 12:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There was a gay potion in that pepsi


[01-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8y9i1gkAFQ

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Pepsi, Kendall Jenner protest ad called 'tone deaf'
A new ad featuring Jenner appearing to bring a protest to an end by sharing Pepsi has been slammed on social media, with some calling out the scene for exploiting the "Black Lives Matter" movement.
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[01-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh I see most art related to politics as this


[01-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
On derpibooru


[01-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
taking advantage of drama


[01-Jun-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's got to be among the most tone deaf ads ever made


[01-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[01-Jun-20 12:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh I know some furries won't mind to die like this


[01-Jun-20 12:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[01-Jun-20 12:10 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Some people just want to earn money with anything


[01-Jun-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nick looks into it


[01-Jun-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The sick fuck


[01-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>ych


[01-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Dead. 🤣


[01-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how he wanted to go.


[01-Jun-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also bottomless Hopps


[01-Jun-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
In case this detail has been overlooked. Or she looks bottomless at least.


[01-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
She has to be bottomless so that YouTube's algorithm doesn't flag it as Content For Kids™


[01-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, the algorithm will still say it's for kids.


[01-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She has to say the F word to stop the algorithm.


[01-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
i just got a warning for posting it in furry server :lul:


[01-Jun-20 12:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
in nsfw memes


[01-Jun-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lmao


[01-Jun-20 12:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
These are Serious Political Times™. No laughing allowed.


[01-Jun-20 12:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:trixdisgust:


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ten bucks because it was too obviously political


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Post one of my arts there as a test.


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
there are some sick people in this server but i like the thick skin people here have


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel bad for laughing at it


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It was like this


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
lemme screencap


[01-Jun-20 12:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't laff at it but I'm feeling tired.


[01-Jun-20 12:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's great.


[01-Jun-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://myfox8.com/news/police-deploy-tear-gas-on-protestors-in-greensboro-stand-in-riot-gear-on-elm-street/ it;s reached my state too

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GREENSBORO, N.C. — Greensboro police tell FOX8 they deployed pepper spray on protestors downtown on Saturday night. Officers could also be seen standing in front of protestors on Elm Street w…
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[01-Jun-20 12:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk yes

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[01-Jun-20 12:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Fukken kek


[01-Jun-20 12:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And then they banned me


[01-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That was furry_irl server btw


[01-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Don't visit that shithole :D


[01-Jun-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
echoing this sentiment


[01-Jun-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
don't go there lul


[01-Jun-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wral.com/looting-fires-vandalism-mark-protests-over-death-of-george-floyd-in-raleigh-fayetteville/19121290/

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Looting, fires, vandalism mark protests over death of George Floyd ...
Anger boiled over in more than a dozen cities Friday, with some protesters smashing windows, setting vehicles ablaze and clashing with officers. On Saturday, peaceful protests have started across North Carolina in cities like Durham, Fayetteville and Raleigh.
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[01-Jun-20 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
R E C L A I M   T H E   C I T I E S   F R O M   T H E    P E T I T    B O U G I E


[01-Jun-20 12:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[01-Jun-20 12:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
CyberPunk 2077 gets banned and Keanu Reeves cancelled for encouraging city burning.


[01-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[01-Jun-20 12:53 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1267227396341669889?s=21

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LAW & ORDER!
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[01-Jun-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
says the person who has never cared about the law

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[01-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't read the words "LAW & ORDER" without them being followed by DUN DUN and "Created by Dick Wolf"

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[01-Jun-20 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
TSP is into some weird furry shit, huh


[01-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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edited from: Season 1, Episode 19
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[01-Jun-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
wolves with dicks


[01-Jun-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1267228374570803200

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@realDonaldTrump ADDERALL AND DEMENTIA
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[01-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
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@itsJeffTiedrich @realDonaldTrump Yes let’s talk about Law and order!
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[01-Jun-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Law & Order SVU Intro
In the criminal justice system, Sexually based defences are considered especially heinous. In New York city, The dedicated detectives that investigate These vicious felanies are members of an elite squad Known as the Special Victims Unit, These are their stories...
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[01-Jun-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/protestors-criticized-for-looting-businesses-without-fo-1843735351

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[01-Jun-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/minneapolis-police-now-requiring-officers-to-undergo-er-1843684669

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MINNEAPOLIS—Apologizing for a lack of oversight following the death of George Floyd after police officer Derek Chauvin pinned him to the ground, Minneapolis Police Department officials announced Tuesday that they are now requiring all officers to undergo ergonomics training to...
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[01-Jun-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
"Minneapolis Police Now Requiring Officers To Undergo Ergonomics Training To Better Protect Knees"


[01-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek, that is dark


[01-Jun-20 01:27 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I was about to say "well that’s the least" until reading the rest of the title


[01-Jun-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/national-guard-troops-states-protest-response-2020-5

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The National Guard says 5,000 troops have been activated to respond...
"The situation is fluid so those numbers can change rapidly," the Guard said as troops respond to unrest following George Floyd's death.
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[01-Jun-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-house-coronavirus-relief-bill-has-billions-for-defense-contractors-2020-5

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The new House coronavirus relief bill has billions for defense cont...
Inside the HEROES Act is a section that will funnel public money to defense and intelligence companies.
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[01-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1267105533351297025

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Afraid to say this is correct. 

I can't believe I'm about to tweet this.

From tomorrow sex between two (or more) people in a private place who do not live in the same household is a "gathering" between 2 or more people and is therefore illegal. https://t.co/aEiGIoweee
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[01-Jun-20 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[01-Jun-20 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They comin


[01-Jun-20 01:38 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon that sounds anti gay


[01-Jun-20 01:38 AM] ononim#8141
Reminds me of draconian laws against "un-sanctioned protests and demonstrations" here that technically make waiting for a bus in a crowded bus stop a crime


[01-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is being in the bus itself not also a crime?


[01-Jun-20 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based and anti-horny pilled


[01-Jun-20 01:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
Now if anyone gets horny they got to sext each other from across the house.


[01-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/woot_master/status/1267236074155204610

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https://twitter.com/woot_master/status/1267236074155204610
I can't believe this.

The right-wing catholic sword guy who got his ass beat for trying to defend a random bar?

He's a brony. 

He writes pony fanfics under the name Jetfire2012. Here's a link to his account, and the blog that gives us the smoking gun.

https://t.co/Q3iDkhF...
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[01-Jun-20 01:44 AM] jlun2#8758
> I can't believe this.
> 
> The right-wing catholic sword guy who got his ass beat for trying to defend a random bar?
> 
> He's a brony.
not suprised; didn't i ask something about this before ("why are there so many right wing nuts on derpi")
edit: checked the acc, never heard of them
makes me paranoid of doxing


[01-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently he's the author of "It's a dangerous business going outside", which was _the_ big adventure fanfic people followed other than Fallout Equestria


[01-Jun-20 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
bruh


[01-Jun-20 02:01 AM] ononim#8141
this is some sur shit


[01-Jun-20 02:04 AM] ononim#8141

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[01-Jun-20 02:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What episode of mlp was it that told us to attack people with swords?


[01-Jun-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it was no second prances, the one where twilight goees all out high lander on trixie for hanging out with starlight and almost slices off her head with a sword


[01-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There've been a few episodes where character attempted violence to solve problems, but usually fails and the true solution comes from talking


[01-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or NUCLEAR RAINBOW ANHILATION


[01-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*You know, for kids!*


[01-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All this rioting and protesting is going to do wonders to the virus stats, I'm sure


[01-Jun-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
remember kids, if the man is in an armored uniform, you should stab him through the chest with a laser sword!


[01-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.theapplepost.com/2020/05/31/image-shows-how-apple-blocks-iphones-stolen-from-its-stores/

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Tom Sykes
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Image shows how Apple blocks iPhones stolen from its stores
Looters across the US boycotting protests against the death of George Floyd are continuing to ransack businesses small and large across the country, with Apple Stores becoming an increasingly popular target for thieves out to cause
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[01-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Someone brought up in another discord that suddenly all the social distancing guidelines have seemed to stop


[01-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You do see a lot of protestors with masks... but most of them would be wearing masks anyway


[01-Jun-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Jun-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
you know, for kids


[01-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general I assume most people who write milquetoast adventure like that are some kind of crazy religious nut that wants to use the show as escapism to a PURE GOOD HEROS sort of thing.


[01-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Particularly if they stopped writing when later seasons came, and especially if they reject later seasons as canon.


[01-Jun-20 02:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He says he was trying to protect a bar too. But we all clearly saw him chasing a person down the street with a sword. Once you start chasing someone you are no longer on the defence you are on the attack. What the fuck was he gonna do with that sword when he caught them anyway?


[01-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In his defence there, people get adrenaline surges and tunnel vision, particularly without any sort of "training". Not like it was ever a good idea to start with


[01-Jun-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
violent poking ofc


[01-Jun-20 02:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He was lucky to get away with his life after doing that shit. Wonder if people caught doing this stuff will get charged with anything.


[01-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't even his bar


[01-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a bar he liked going to


[01-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
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This is the guy in Dallas who got stomped out last night. No longer feeling too bad about that one, tbqh!
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[01-Jun-20 02:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
that to. city bars are likely insured for damages with so many drunks. so stupid.


[01-Jun-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he was at a bar chances are he was drunk as well, and drunkenness and adrenalin rushes are a bad combo for sanity


[01-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
so this is the dude who got stomped for swinging around a sword at a bunch of protesters


[01-Jun-20 02:33 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there such a thing as brony heroes?


[01-Jun-20 02:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
This is more like brony jackass


[01-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
also, are people not horrified knowing that apple can track you without your permission at any time


[01-Jun-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Welcome to brony jackass! Today we're chasing protesters with a sword!"


[01-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
because that's all I'm getting from that "apple phones know where their stolen phones are" article


[01-Jun-20 02:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought that was common knowledge


[01-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They're not horrified because Apple constantly reassures them that their privacy is secured :twismug:


[01-Jun-20 02:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
> All this rioting and protesting is going to do wonders to the virus stats, I'm sure
@Teaspoon 

It was already pretty bad for the black population which may be part of the issue: complete and total abandonment.


[01-Jun-20 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Android phones do this too and you can turn it off.  is the news that you can't do this on apple or something?
This feature has been a life saver for me a few times.


[01-Jun-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apple built bricking chips into their phones to prevent repairs, after that nothing is beneath them


[01-Jun-20 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i just search my phone on google and see where it is. even give it a call.


[01-Jun-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it;s only the stolen phones you cant turn the tracking off of


[01-Jun-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again knowing apple


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I saw a big old military style transport truck and two humvees on a turn to the city PD


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
waiting at the stop light


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Mr Crow get down


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not anywhere near any protest, but I guess they're shipping out officers from my city to where there are protests


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
mainly oakland and san francisco


[01-Jun-20 02:38 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/akw558/apples-t2-security-chip-has-created-a-nightmare-for-macbook-refurbishers> 
rip


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
:wow:


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this both monopolizes the repair service, and ensures you are unable to save it from planned obsolescence


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Posted earlier.


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
the building on fire is project housing.


[01-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's celebrating because it means poor people won't get homes.


[01-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt he's that evil or knew what the building was, tbh


[01-Jun-20 02:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Looters when they hear all the police have left the city to go to another city :lyrasweating:


[01-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given how much he talks about COMMUNITIES, I really doubt he didn't know.


[01-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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[01-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He sounds the sort that would know every little detail about apartment complexes.


[01-Jun-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He lives in a gated community, i imagine people who live int hose keep track of projects for the poor so they can attempt to prevent them


[01-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[01-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
he talks about a "sister community"


[01-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is clearly looking beyond his own gated area.


[01-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gu04j3/nypd_cop_pulls_down_peaceful_protestors_mask_to/

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[01-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lmao


[01-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Now that's wicked


[01-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Looks like they want to look bad.


[01-Jun-20 02:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
He didn't even need to pull down the mask. That shit will get through anything. if he sprayed it on the mask then he would not be able to wear the mask with all the spray soaked in.


[01-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/31/21275994/police-violence-peaceful-protesters-images

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[01-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is funny how there is no footage of police engaging mobs at all


[01-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Only ganging up on 1-3 persons


[01-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The violent mobs avoid the police plobs


[01-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And small police groups avoid the mobs


[01-Jun-20 03:06 AM] illumnious#7938
blame trump for this


[01-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They each just pick soft targets


[01-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, it is ugly from all sides


[01-Jun-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/gourdparent/status/1267254782336491520

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so many white bellevue fucks on twitter crying over the destruction of their community... aww your city's community is defined by a bougie mall? oh nooo the macy's :((((
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[01-Jun-20 03:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Police when gangs of people breaking shit. ::sleep: 
Police when people outside peacefully. ::glowing_eyes:


[01-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That was my impression :twismug:


[01-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Makes the words that they are all bigots sound more plausible.


[01-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Where are the Roof Koreans when you need them

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[01-Jun-20 03:11 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Underrated opinion: trump is not a memorable president


[01-Jun-20 03:12 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
idk people will forget his presidency


[01-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one of the stupidest things you've said.


[01-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is really quite an achievement.

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[01-Jun-20 03:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't care because I'm not a supporter, or even someone who doesn't like both parties


[01-Jun-20 03:14 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Independent members should be a thing


[01-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That has nothing to do with how memorable Trump will be historically.


[01-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
If anything, he may be the catalyst for us denouncing the 2-party system eventually.

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[01-Jun-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@SymphonyDawn3 tbqh that's kind of a cope


[01-Jun-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's buffoon stance did have precedents, of course


[01-Jun-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But now the energy of the "buffoon president" has been unleashed upon the US in its full potential


[01-Jun-20 03:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why can't we have more parties like the Philippines


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't like having only 2 parties


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that Hitler was named Time's most influential person of the century because while what he did is kind of the *de facto* standard for being the most evil person in the world, what he did changed the world forever


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Philippines is a failed democracy


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Phillippines is not a party.


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hardly a model.


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's run by a fukkhead even worse than Trump.


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You have like 15+ parties here


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
US has fucking only 2


[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
How many of them just disagree about the number of smooches to giv Duterte's asshole daily?

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[01-Jun-20 03:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What if I want to vote not a democrat or a republican


[01-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a legitimate problem but the Phillippines aren't gonna fix it.


[01-Jun-20 03:18 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
but someone neither of those parties for president


[01-Jun-20 03:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
See, that's the advantage us non americans have with parliamentary systems and all


[01-Jun-20 03:18 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The voting system sucks tho in the US


[01-Jun-20 03:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The chances of electing an useful Sanders like independent candidate are higher than zero


[01-Jun-20 03:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It should be voting for one guy, not the party lol


[01-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Inb4 people are getting gunned down by military


[01-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1267183912817766400

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[01-Jun-20 03:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Makes other countries better


[01-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the US had 15+ parties it would just be conservatives in coalition government every time.


[01-Jun-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Credible, lethal threat"


[01-Jun-20 03:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
US is not #1 in everything


[01-Jun-20 03:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The US has to have a flaw


[01-Jun-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The US is only #1 in arrogance, capitalism and military budget tbh


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alongside all that entails


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And COVID-19 deaths/cases


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not until Brazil overtakes them :glowing_eyes:


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BE AFRAID GRINGOS


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The #1 thing is the stupidest propaganda


[01-Jun-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WE'RE CATCHING UP


[01-Jun-20 03:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Only said by patriots


[01-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Come to Brazil


[01-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Patriot" is a funny way of saying "nationalist zealot"


[01-Jun-20 03:22 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk, are patriots this dumb


[01-Jun-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Boy oh boy they are lol


[01-Jun-20 03:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Heck, the situation is worse today if not functioning properly


[01-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're as dumb as sports team fans that think their team is the best despite all evidence to the contrary


[01-Jun-20 03:25 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Patriotism is not the problem tho


[01-Jun-20 03:25 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The problem is showing that you are


[01-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500394-trump-taken-to-underground-bunker-during-white-house-protests-reports

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Trump taken to underground bunker during White House protests: report
President Trump was moved to the White House's underground bunker Friday evening as protesters clashed with police and Secret Service agents outside, according to multiple reports.
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[01-Jun-20 03:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why not declare martial law


[01-Jun-20 03:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
if rioting is that dangerous


[01-Jun-20 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dreamofhs/status/1267175254755020807?s=21

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[01-Jun-20 03:28 AM] illumnious#7938
> Why not declare martial law
@SymphonyDawn3 yes please


[01-Jun-20 03:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Those are the worst passwords


[01-Jun-20 03:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Hackers can use dictionaries


[01-Jun-20 03:29 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
lol


[01-Jun-20 03:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's good that my country isn't following the protests


[01-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
dicks out for the guy that used "password" as his password


[01-Jun-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ThisGuyGetsLit/status/1267155007675170816?s=19

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Hey guys. President and CEO of Antifa here. I tried to change our name to avoid the presidents classification as a terrorist group, but the name I chose was al-Nusra Front and then the CIA immediately gave us 500 BGM-TOW antitank missiles and 2 Bearcats. I regret the error.
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[01-Jun-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do the first three just not have passwords


[01-Jun-20 03:33 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Lol


[01-Jun-20 03:33 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Antifa has twitter?


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
No


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because AntiFa isn't a group.


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a political philosophy and a banner varying groups will attach them to, while practicing different things.


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well they claim to be CEO


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
No. That's a joke.


[01-Jun-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a joke


[01-Jun-20 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
AntiFa is no coherent group or organization. But conservatives and fascists like to claim they do.


[01-Jun-20 03:35 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I thought Twitter missed some terrorist pages


[01-Jun-20 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
So to make jokes at their expense, people will claim to be X of AntiFa.


[01-Jun-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antifa is basically the name given to any counter protesters who show up to get int he way of a conservative protest


[01-Jun-20 03:35 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Isn't that a risk of banning them?


[01-Jun-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
But AntiFa is just being a group that resists fascisms by whatever or which ever means. Groups like Hope Not Hate are Antifascists. They practice the deradicalization of current or aspiring fascist members to bring them out of the rank and file while also conducting infiltration of said groups.


[01-Jun-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like if the proudboys decided to hold a march in a city and some people show up to counter protest them, thye get labeled antifa


[01-Jun-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
AntiFa is a term that can be given to a group, or they themselves call themselves Anti Fascist.


[01-Jun-20 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Organizing community self policing may be considered also Anti Fascist.


[01-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Raph13th#5019
Hey, welcome to brazillian politics where communists are everyone that don't agree with you


[01-Jun-20 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Deradicalization of right-wing people is AntiFascist.


[01-Jun-20 03:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
Infiltration of and leaking information on the membership of right-wing fascist groups is Antifascist.


[01-Jun-20 03:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Punching Richard Spencer is a Antifascist move.


[01-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Raph13th#5019
So, i dont wanna wreck your train of thought, AaronMK, also im not sure if this is the best place to talk about this, but i gotta ask, the mods are just going to ignore the bullshit going on the site right now?


[01-Jun-20 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm not a mod so I can't answer.


[01-Jun-20 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
The mods are names in blue


[01-Jun-20 03:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Otherwise checking the site I don't see anything out of the norm


[01-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Raph13th#5019
fair enough


[01-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, a bunch of videos on twitter that showed cops marching with the protesters got deleted


[01-Jun-20 03:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Twitter got scared.


[01-Jun-20 03:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Class collaborationism for the proletariat be    s c a r y


[01-Jun-20 03:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
Comrade protestors: Nationalize Twitter!


[01-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIY8L0FLcYA

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Police brutality protesters march with officials in New Jersey
Police officers and elected officials marched alongside demonstrators in Newark and Camden Saturday. Both N.J. marches remained largely peaceful.
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[01-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
no one wants to be prolitariet so they just try to sell that everyone can be petite bourgeoisie


[01-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-biden-bail-idUSKBN2360SZ

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Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis
Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.
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[01-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Shoutout to my boy zelda1 for keeping Minneapolis PD secure ✊ 🔺


[01-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like Biden doesn't hav full control of his staff.


[01-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless he's trying to hedge his bets with Klobuchar as VP pikk.


[01-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
it's bad enough that Hideo Kojima prediceted the next 20 years of politics without him also getin the aesthetic too


[01-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kojima is a hack who would be laughed out of Hollywood.


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone hasn't seen the Star Wars sequels.

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[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
whoa ok sheesh


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Death Stranding is pretentious


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
watch Rise of Skywalker.


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dare you.


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Itsthinking cancelled


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Death Stranding is a meme I'm pretty sure


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can eat dogshit after to wash the bad taste out of your mouth.


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Snatcher and MGS are good


[01-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, everything made over the top artsy on purpose


[01-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[01-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A whole lot of the looters I've seen in video have been white


[01-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it is probably somewhere from 4chan so...


[01-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yet you bring it here...


[01-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I can move it to #memes-and-shitposts :twismug:


[01-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
since it is a shitpost


[01-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Storing 5 xboxes is the most useless ability ever had.

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[01-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who considers it good is probably someone who calls everyone "bro" unironically.


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[01-Jun-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Hands up don't shoot am I right?


[01-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
cop brain


[01-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
like pokemon they only know 4 moves


[01-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Honahue#0656
taze, pepper spray, tear gas, shoot


[01-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Honahue#0656
shoot has the most PP


[01-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Big pp

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[01-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/716742205410377799


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[01-Jun-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
note that the 40% survey was cops self-reporting that they engaged in domestic abuse


[01-Jun-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
the true number may be much higher


[01-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/05/31/trump-hid-from-protests-in-underground-bunker-report-says/#392b39545d98

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Trump reportedly went to the bunker, which can protect against terrorist attacks, after Secret Service became nervous about protests near the White House.
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[01-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who the hell self reports themselves as an abuser...


[01-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That escalated fast


[01-Jun-20 04:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
I want to apologize to earlier statements where I compared the US police to the Combine from Half-Life. Cops are clearly far less civilized than the Combine.


[01-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Teaspoon probably some trick questions
@AaronMk recent events are proving this indeed


[01-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The combine asked you to pick up the can


[01-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US police during these riots would've already put 4 rubber bullets into you before you even saw the can


[01-Jun-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
and a couple paint rounds to top it off


[01-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Curfews starting to kick in


[01-Jun-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Curfew? More like, curtoomany

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[01-Jun-20 04:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
> The combine asked you to pick up the can
@Teaspoon 

The combine give you three tries with clear and stern warnings before they smack you with a non-lethal stun baton. Then they maybe reduce rations on your block for a bit and put you under surveillance.


[01-Jun-20 04:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Honestly if Valve wanted to turn up the evil to make the Combine more competitive against cops they'd need them to just randomly unload on civies.


[01-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They did at the end of the game


[01-Jun-20 04:39 AM] jlun2#8758
> note that the 40% survey was cops self-reporting that they engaged in domestic abuse
> the true number may be much higher
is there no background check?


[01-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not for a lot of departments, no


[01-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, other than felony records


[01-Jun-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
the things people will feel comfortable admitting to in anonymous surveys are much different than those for eg employment checks


[01-Jun-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
and if you never got arrested for beating your wife, what of it?


[01-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@AaronMk they have beating quota tho


[01-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
god damn I just had the shittiest smallbrain argument in my life, people basically saying that it's okay for police to do shitty things to peaceful protesters because they're scared


[01-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
it was centered around that video of an officer pulling down the mask of a dude with his hands up and spraying him point blank in the face


[01-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
they dismissed the pain it caused because he would be okay in 30 minutes


[01-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
and said that if he didn't want to be sprayed, he should've gone home


[01-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen a loooot of people say that


[01-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
basically, I tell them that it's not okay the police are striking fear, that it should be the police in fear (of losing their jobs)


[01-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they go WELL U MAEK POLICE AFRAID SO THEY KILL U KAY


[01-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
well, they said that shooting/killing is wrong, but pepper spraying randomly is okay


[01-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
because pepper spray isn't dangerous


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can cause blindness.


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or miscarriages.


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
they also used their own experiences getting pepper sprayed at parties as justification for the police pepper spraying indiscriminately


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
wont ppl go blind


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
ninjad


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow.


[01-Jun-20 04:53 AM] jlun2#8758
also what party is that


[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably hazing shit.


[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the "I was bullied, so kids should be"


[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
argument.


[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with "I was spanked, so mothers should use spiked paddles"


[01-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steal that flag and burn it.


[01-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, fukk.


[01-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to serve the country, not yourselves.


[01-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Violates the flag code


[01-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[01-Jun-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> spiked paddles
that sounds like some porn thing


[01-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Justice Center" always makes me laugh


[01-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, where do you think spanking fetishists come from?


[01-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "ethnic cleansing" but for jail


[01-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kids that were spanked and adapted to liking it to cope with it


[01-Jun-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
cursed comment


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen parents say that if the kid likes it that isn't a reason to stop.

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[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Surely at some point the parent gets creeped out


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative parents are nuts.


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't.


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
So the parents are just sadists then


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] jlun2#8758
I was bullied so I want bullies to face ruined life instead but that's just me. :shrugpony:


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberal parents get creeped out, but they don't spank to begin with.


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That they realize the kid likes it and don't stop almost turns it into a weird incest thing


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahaha


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't care about incest.


[01-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta spank harder to make sure they get the message


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as nobody else finds out they don't care at all.


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I'd tag that with the alabama state flag if I could


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives will gladly sweep child abuse of all forms under the rug.


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/ZakkFlash/status/1266930406777069576?s=19

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[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, the big disagreement isn't about whether it's okay to rape kids, really.


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about how to deal with it after the fact.


[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc

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[01-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want to just not.


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In their minds, parent > child, so it doesn't matter if child gets raped by parent.


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Confucianism, @Itsthinking


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
> Conservatives want to just not.
just not for themselves, screw others who do instead?


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what Confucianism says about roles?


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically how conservatives think.


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
no idea, probably some rigid thing


[01-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In Confucian thought, relationships involve a superior and an inferior


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
so rigid it makes ocd ppl look flexible


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
like a husband to a wife


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
an emperor to a subject


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
a parent to a child


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
||submissive husband :nut: ||


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should always obey your superior, unless that means disobeying a more important superior


[01-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
for instance, you can't obey your husband if it means disobeying your emperor.


[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
As long as everyone stays in line, it's basically believed there are no problems.


[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the police stuff is about


[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The belief is that you must always obey the police, because they are your superior.


[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they are wrong.


[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Andrew_M_C/status/1266990412503359488

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[01-Jun-20 05:01 AM] jlun2#8758
doesn't sound good for creative economy


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not.


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a horrid philosophy on its face.


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's the basic way conservatives see society.


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are morals in a vacuum and rigid relationships of order.


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Incest isn't one of those morals in a vacuum generally.


[01-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But obeying a parent is.


[01-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
To let the child change the spanking would be to invert the relationship, a big no no.


[01-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence always spank no matter what.


[01-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking mind broken yet?


[01-Jun-20 05:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-sims-profanity-laced-tirade-gop-colleague-hid-positive-covid-19-test-1006431/

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[01-Jun-20 06:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/watch-john-oliver-exposes-trumps-lies-about-vote-by-mail-and-the-fox-news-cult-claiming-the-election-is-already-rigged/?utm_source=push_notifications

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[01-Jun-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 06:07 AM] illumnious#7938
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[01-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1267288794895495170

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If you attack a guy in his vehicle, expect to get smushed.

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[01-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
look at the shit on this dude's profile


[01-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
pragerU, dailywire, etc


[01-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Midknight#9798
Hate to say it, but... when their buddies escalated to physical violence, the folks blocking the driver from moving became party to that assault. that's horrible, but kinda justified self defense to GTFO


[01-Jun-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Midknight#9798
https://twitter.com/itstime4change6/status/1267296534959448065 :wat:

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[01-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
which fallacy is it when someone says "well if you care so much about how shitty the police are, go become an officer"


[01-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
I know it's a fallacy, but I can't remember which


[01-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
I linked that video of the black cop checking the white cop


[01-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
and said "why can't more officers be like this"


[01-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
and I was told "if you care so much go join the force"


[01-Jun-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
informal


[01-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Midknight#9798
non sequitur, really. most police forces turn down applicants that don't have the personality type they're looking for. and they ain't lookin' for "reformers"


[01-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
to me it seems maybe most similar to tu quoque (the "no u" informal fallacy)


[01-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Midknight#9798
so it's completely irrelevant


[01-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
but it doesn't really fit


[01-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is that thing X is bad, but you might have power to make it not bad, so you should expend that power *instead of* asking anyone else expend theirs.


[01-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Midknight#9798
if you wanna be a cop, you gotta be ready to cop out 😄


[01-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's narrowly looking at only one solution in order to disregard others.


[01-Jun-20 07:07 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://i.redd.it/18cisvyc65251.jpg


Well hard to ignore when anarchy and chaos are erupting and setting store and even blacks are being ransacked like the sports bar owner, poor dude, thankfully they opened a godundme and raised in less than 3 days almost 100k

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[01-Jun-20 07:07 AM] byte[]#2610
--> you


the point


[01-Jun-20 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Jun-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
90% of people that see this will believe it


[01-Jun-20 07:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
jesus fucking christ, I argued that the police should change to not be so abusive, the counterargument I got was that we should take away the free speech of people who say that "whites are racist", people who are transgender, etc


[01-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crow, I'm going with *tu quoque*


[01-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that it covers more than what byte said.


[01-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
he was talking about stuff like "being called racist for walking out your door", "if you're not racist you're misgendering someone", etc


[01-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In total, the fallacy is claiming hypocrisy by pointing to a lakk of application of your conclusion in practice to everything.


[01-Jun-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
that if you silence the people who insist on pointing out racism/sexism/bigotry/etc, you'll fix the problem


[01-Jun-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this particular application, the idea is like "Well you didn't fix policing, so you can't claim it's wrong"


[01-Jun-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Policing being done wrong has nothing to do with whether you fixed it or not.


[01-Jun-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is just calling it hypocritical to hav a position without personally fixing it.


[01-Jun-20 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Whataboutism" is actually a *subset* of *tu quoque* that says "yeah well there's this other situation out there so you're wrong"


[01-Jun-20 07:28 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It itself is a subset of *ad hominem*


[01-Jun-20 07:29 AM] byte[]#2610
the main classifications that really matter are formal (interpreted the argument incorrectly) and informal (drew a conclusion based on something not part of the argument)


[01-Jun-20 07:29 AM] byte[]#2610
most of the time fallacies are informal


[01-Jun-20 07:30 AM] byte[]#2610
because that's what humans respond best to


[01-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
My hat is a llama, so your argument is invalid.


[01-Jun-20 07:30 AM] byte[]#2610
informal :V


[01-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is it could also be something like "solution blinders"


[01-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they aren't saying you personally are failing morally by not fixing it, but that the *only* solution *anyone* could do is to personally fix it, rather than, say, pressure local gov't.


[01-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's still informal, but it's not *ad hominem*.


[01-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically adding extra conditions to invalidate your conclusion, without evidence.


[01-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that would take a lot more thought on their part to do.


[01-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual text you got was most likely just the usual *tu quoque* *ad hominem*.


[01-Jun-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
rofl, I linked that video with the donut on a string, that dude who said I should go become a cop said that him getting pepper sprayed for it would be justified


[01-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
and that he considers a practical joke like that donut on a string the same as pepper spraying


[01-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
he basically says that pepper spraying someone is a big "haha that's so funny" joke to him


[01-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Buy bear spray.  @Crow


[01-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Make that joke with him.


[01-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[01-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Bear spray is great


[01-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Dash worked for the TSA in Montana and there would be a lot of city tourists flying in to go to Yellowstone and having no idea what the wilderness is


[01-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
She got questions like "what time do they let the animals out"


[01-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Anyways one of the other questions that were common was for bear spray


[01-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And it was "how much do I apply to my kid"


[01-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And she always wanted to respond with "just a little bit"


[01-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If you don't know, bear spray isn't like mace where it sprays as long as you're pressing the button. It empties the entire can once you press the button


[01-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You can't stop it


[01-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
bear spray is way nastier too


[01-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
iirc it can be classified as assault with a deadly weapon to use it on a person


[01-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah definitely


[01-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's much more concentrated than mace and it's like an aerosolized gel or something that is very sticky


[01-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And gets everywhere


[01-Jun-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Raptorshy#6268
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[01-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Crow#5457
holy fuckin shit this guy has some fucking jupiter-sized balls


[01-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[01-Jun-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 12:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 01:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[01-Jun-20 01:25 PM] ononim#8141
Man, /pol/yps are using monkey imaginery while talking about protestors because of course, but boy, it's US police rn who are acting like some bloodcrazed apes


[01-Jun-20 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 02:00 PM] GameWhiz14#8432
Gave my 2 cents on this topic, along with a follow up on how we SHOULD be dealing with this situation and not with the rioting!


[01-Jun-20 02:01 PM] GameWhiz14#8432
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[01-Jun-20 02:02 PM] GameWhiz14#8432
From the day after


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[01-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
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Another angle that shows how much longer he dragged me. Me putting my shoes down and sliding on ice basically worked pretty well I guess lol https://t.co/O23yeX7axN
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[01-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 03:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[01-Jun-20 03:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
A philisophical examination of marching in the streets in the time of Corona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVGcfdKJje0

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[01-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
I thought sir swag stopped doing news


[01-Jun-20 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 04:05 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 04:08 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
My god even on Brasil.... if this isn’t proof of the domino effect I don’t know what it is

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[01-Jun-20 04:08 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Anarchist hooligans protesting fo democracy


[01-Jun-20 04:09 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
For sure, their democracy


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[01-Jun-20 04:11 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Meanwhile the neonazis camp like mongols used to do before raiding cities in the capital


[01-Jun-20 04:11 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
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[01-Jun-20 04:12 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
While carrying e same torch he white supremacists did back in 2017 in Charlottesville


[01-Jun-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Jun-20 04:37 PM] byte[]#2610
no tears for confederates


[01-Jun-20 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[01-Jun-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 05:15 PM] ononim#8141
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[01-Jun-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Jun-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 06:30 PM] ononim#8141
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[01-Jun-20 06:46 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 06:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[01-Jun-20 06:54 PM] illumnious#7938

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[01-Jun-20 06:54 PM] illumnious#7938
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Looting IS a problem.

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[01-Jun-20 06:56 PM] Midknight#9798
Arrest those looters. The whole lot of 'em!


[01-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
"Frankly, the officer could have done permanent damage to his ACL while crushing a suspect’s windpipe like that. If our officers are going to be out in the field kneeing people in the neck over and over again, that’s a repeat-use injury just waiting to happen, and we must address it."


[01-Jun-20 07:06 PM] jimm#1439
for all this talk about overly political sjw virtue signalling games, I've never seen one example that wasn't just "this game has one gay character" or "this game lets you model your player character freely"


[01-Jun-20 07:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[01-Jun-20 07:20 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/facebook-employees-stage-virtual-walkout-to-protest-zuckerbergs-obedience-to-trump

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[01-Jun-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[01-Jun-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/P0kes/status/1267230163521191936

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The Cincinnati police pulled down the American flag at the justice center and replaced it with the thin blue line. Infuriating. Picture from a friend.
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[01-Jun-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ironic


[01-Jun-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
that's illegal


[01-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/05/31/hamilton-county-sheriffs-office-flew-thin-blue-line-flag/5304356002/

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Hamilton County Sheriff: Office flew 'Thin Blue Line' flag after Am...
A "Thin Blue Line" flag was flown at the Justice Center after the sheriff's office said American flag was stolen
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[01-Jun-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They stole the american flag, Crow, not the blue line one


[01-Jun-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
oh, thought the thin blue line flag was stolen


[01-Jun-20 07:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-lawmakers-to-repeal-police-disciplinary-record-shield-law-2020-6

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[01-Jun-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500459-trump-criticizes-governors-over-weak-response-to-nationwide-protests he says while hiding like a weakling in a bunker

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Trump tells 'weak' governors to 'dominate' streets amid protests
President Trump pressed the nation's governors to crack down on protesters during a phone call Monday after a night that saw demonstrations turn violent in cities across the U.S., according to multiple sources familiar with the call.
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[01-Jun-20 07:57 PM] illumnious#7938

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[01-Jun-20 07:58 PM] illumnious#7938
god why https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267515702652678144

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Anarchists, we see you! https://t.co/ov1dMLu4Eg
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[01-Jun-20 07:59 PM] illumnious#7938
> blacks in America part 180 https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/kentucky-man-killed-by-law-enforcement-during-george-floyd-protest-had-provided-police-officers-with-free-meals/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Kentucky man killed by law enforcement during George Floyd protest ...
In a heartbreaking story, police shot and killed David McAtee, the owner of a barbecue business, Yaya’s BBQ, in western Louisville, Kentucky early Monday morning. He was known for being a “community pillar,” his mother, Odessa Riley, said, according to the Currier-Journal. She...
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[01-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wow.


[01-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They really don't want riots to end, don't they?


[01-Jun-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/500455-washington-dc-imposes-7-pm-curfew-amid-violent-demonstrations

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Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) announced a 7 p.m. curfew on Monday night following an outbreak of violent demonstrations across the nation’s capital and dozens of cities across the U.S.
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[01-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Earlier curfew just means there'll be more people on the streets...


[01-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah yes. They will baton, spray and shoot them as well.


[01-Jun-20 08:20 PM] illumnious#7938
> They really don't want riots to end, don't they?
@Stoopedhooy they don't want to stop


[01-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump too chickenshit to take the podium, keeps using his barbie doll for it


[01-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html>


[01-Jun-20 08:21 PM] illumnious#7938
ken doll tho


[01-Jun-20 08:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/s_tanzania/status/1267331306108719105/photo/1

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A short yet beautiful story
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[01-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oof, a straight blow there would have lingering effects


[01-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/dc-monuments-lincoln-memorial-defaced/index.html

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Famed DC monuments defaced after night of unrest
Popular landmarks across Washington, DC, were defaced with graffiti during the second consecutive night of protests in the nation's capital over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man in Minneapolis who was pinned down by police.
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[01-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
apparently this is considered "defacing" the lincoln memorial


[01-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
everyone's reporting it as "LINCOLN MEMORIAL DEFACED BY PROTESTERS"


[01-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
even though it's a random block of concrete outside the memorial


[01-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
and the conservatives are going bananas over it


[01-Jun-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, not the sacred concrete block 20 yards away! How could they?


[01-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
What if a conservative *did* the graffiti?


[01-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like it's saying that people rioting should stop.


[01-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Aerial_view_of_Lincoln_Memorial_-_east_side_EDIT.jpeg/1920px-Aerial_view_of_Lincoln_Memorial_-_east_side_EDIT.jpeg

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[01-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
it's a bit further away than the perspective of the article image would imply


[01-Jun-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
500 yards away


[01-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's literally spent the last 3 days in a bunker pissing himself only talking to people by phone


[01-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
#bunkerboy


[01-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://tclf.org/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/LincolnMemorialGrounds1_MatthewTraucht2014.jpg

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[01-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
looks like it's on the top concrete outcropping on the left


[01-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It says "y'all". Of course it was a white person making that graffiti.


[01-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiright:


[01-Jun-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
They should enshrine the graffiti for irony.


[01-Jun-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
Lacquer over it with a clear protective finish


[01-Jun-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Put a mueseum's worth of info around it. Assemble all the contextual information and train a ranger to be an expert on that piece of concrete. Find the original building permits and receipts even. It's government property, they probably have the receipt for the land purchase for DC from George Washington hidden somewhere.


[01-Jun-20 08:50 PM] illumnious#7938
this as a trend

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[01-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Ebola july anybody?


[01-Jun-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that?


[01-Jun-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Good times


[01-Jun-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I think I was in middle school


[01-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They want ebola to end it all?


[01-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I would have also been a newborn


[01-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There're new ebola cases in Africa again


[01-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Will travel restricted so much I doubt it'll spread to the US (or europe)


[01-Jun-20 08:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
The last Ebola wave never left the Congo


[01-Jun-20 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
>Congo


[01-Jun-20 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
bruh


[01-Jun-20 09:02 PM] ononim#8141
real coffin dance hours for DR


[01-Jun-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1266994073501487104

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NYPD officer in Union Square throws down a “White Power” sign and his fellow officer cheers him on. #NYCPROTEST https://t.co/CZrb9nzFEM
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[01-Jun-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
The sirens have reached my area


[01-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:siren:


[01-Jun-20 09:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sirenpats:


[01-Jun-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/JLCauvin/status/1267457628759830529

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The President is safe, ready to address the nation and definitely not a #BunkerBoy or a #BunkerDon or a #bunkerbabytrump - be sure to subscribe to Making Podcasts Great Again for more! https://t.co/pnxvb45x8v
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[01-Jun-20 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> and definitely not a BunkerBoy


[01-Jun-20 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why not


[01-Jun-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Jun-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
the sounds of political unrest


[01-Jun-20 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's in the bunker


[01-Jun-20 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And he's a boy


[01-Jun-20 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bunker boy


[01-Jun-20 09:22 PM] ononim#8141
WTF, Donald Trump converted to Hoxhaism???
Hello, based department, I want to file a cliam


[01-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Raptorshy#6268

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[01-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[01-Jun-20 09:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/8a6568e24555fd3232258a0997870077

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Kremlin: Trump tells Putin about idea for summit with Russia
MOSCOW (AP) — U.S. President Donald Trump called Russian President Vladimir Putin Monday to tell him about his proposal to convene an international summit that would involve Russia, the Kremlin...
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[01-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He wanna hide in Russian bunker now?


[01-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[01-Jun-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can have a bunker sleep over and play bunker hide and seek


[01-Jun-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also everyone who does a nazi salute looks really dumb

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[01-Jun-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/JeffreyGuterman/status/1267510164975992832

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[01-Jun-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/d41cdf6cefbb3e5603a28e6dc07f9589?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter

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Family autopsy: Floyd asphyxiated by sustained pressure
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — An autopsy commissioned for George Floyd’s family found that he died of asphyxiation due to neck and back compression when a Minneapolis police officer held his knee on Floyd's...
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[01-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
"You guys are weak, you have to dominate!"


[01-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Says the guy who hid in a bunker for the last two days


[01-Jun-20 10:19 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds about right. it's very easy to say rather than do


[01-Jun-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
_dominates @jlun2 _


[01-Jun-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
:nut: :raep:


[01-Jun-20 10:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it wasn't exactly by choice. the secret service sent him down there for his safety


[01-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe if he didn't write those provocative tweets and FB posts all the time, there'd be no need to do so.


[01-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[01-Jun-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/gupyuy/cops_pepper_sprayed_their_own_senator_without/

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[01-Jun-20 11:09 PM] jlun2#8758
"wait, our senator isn't white?"


[01-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who thinks racism is solved just by putting a blakk person in a position of power fails to realize the real problem is the people who don't respect them when they get power and actively try to push them out.

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[01-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/30/police-george-floyd-qualified-immunity-supreme-court-column/5283349002/

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Police act like laws don't apply to them because of 'qualified immu...
There's a legal obstacle that's nearly impossible to overcome when police officers and government officials violate our constitutional and civil rights.
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[01-Jun-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Gamers are the most ~~oppressed~~ exposed


[01-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
I bet trump's pretty pissed that the media isn't covering him anymore


[01-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fake sadly


[01-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Crow#5457
what's fake?


[01-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The tool


[01-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It just says "We can't find that job"


[01-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, I found it, it doesn't say "Please enter a real job"

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[01-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Ruining the joke smh


[01-Jun-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1267230274468929537

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[01-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://sports.yahoo.com/biden-proposes-training-cops-shoot-193855367.html

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Joe Biden on Monday suggested that police forces could train officers to shoot attackers in the legs in order to reduce potential fatalities.There is "the idea that instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there's an unarmed person, coming at him with a knife or somet...
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[01-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think I realize now why Biden said law school was hard for him and he was in the bottom half of his class


[01-Jun-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
why, because he's mentally retarded?


[01-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's just not smart.


[01-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people just aren't intelligent.


[01-Jun-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/06/01/video-shows-officer-pushing-woman-during-fort-lauderdale-protests/

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Fort Lauderdale police identify and suspend officer seen on video p...
Fort Lauderdale police have identified Steven Pohorence as the officer seen on video shoving a female protester who was kneeling on the ground as tensions rose Sunday night downtown.
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[01-Jun-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wbxk/confederate-statues-and-other-symbols-of-racism-all-over-the-country-were-destroyed-by-protesters-this-weekend

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A former slave market burned, Confederate statues were toppled, and a statue of a racist police chief was vandalized.
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[01-Jun-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jun-20 12:43 AM] jimm#1439

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[02-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[02-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/01/the-us-needs-to-stand-up-for-hong-kong-to-deter-chinas-crackdowns

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The US needs to stand up for Hong Kong to deter China's crackdowns ...
The US cannot sacrifice Hong Kong to make a larger point about the Chinese Communist party
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[02-Jun-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/asia/us-protests-hong-kong-china-intl-hnk/index.html

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Trump's protest response gives China a propaganda win on Hong Kong
US President Donald Trump's reaction to protests at home stands in marked contrast to the US' position on demonstrations in Hong Kong.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190908154428-04-hong-kong-us-protests-0908-super-tease.jpg


[02-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[02-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Cloudy#3004
this legit?


[02-Jun-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/richardgrant88/status/1267523353289474048?s=21

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https://twitter.com/richardgrant88/status/1267523353289474048?s=21
This is probably the most impactful picture I have ever taken. 

#JusticeForGeorgeFloyd #LongBeach #LongBeachProtest #BlackLivesMatter
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[02-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wow, just wow


[02-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is it not perspective at play though?


[02-Jun-20 01:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
> this legit?
@Cloudy 

Yes. Welcome to the age that even professional media can be confused at the lightspeed everything is moving


[02-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
he points it at someone else?


[02-Jun-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's liekly pointing it at the father;s head


[02-Jun-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/richardgrant88/status/1267540117725392896

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https://twitter.com/richardgrant88/status/1267540117725392896
To be clear here is the full caption that was on my Instagram post

"This man stood with his child most of the time until the police started using concussive grenades but they never fired on him but did occasionally pointed their rubber bullet guns towards him."
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[02-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda) yes, but look at how small are cops and how large is father


[02-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am speaking of that photo mostly


[02-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Obviously that guy shouldn't have waved gun with finger on trigger


[02-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Meanwhile
https://twitter.com/PatrolRpd/status/1267202275895803904

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https://twitter.com/PatrolRpd/status/1267202275895803904
Do you know any of these men❓Yesterday, May 30, these men violently attacked a store owner & her husband who were trying to protect their business from being looted. Please look at the video & still images. If you know any of them, please call Crime Stoppers @ 423-9300. https...
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[02-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck


[02-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Same video
If only they had a shotgun at their shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLcTpHRQEik

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Husband and wife beaten with 2x4s while defending store in Rocheste...
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[02-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>Rochester
Dafuq
>NY
Oh


[02-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(there's also a Rochester, MN and that's the one I'm most familiar with)


[02-Jun-20 01:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-guard-troops-deployed-white-house-trump-calls/story?id=71004151

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Trump says he is mobilizing 'heavily armed' military to stop protests
National Guard troop were deployed near the White House after President Trump demanded a military show of force.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/trump-ap-ps-200601_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[02-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nintendo going straight for the gamer market

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[02-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Well, at least it is not that "we're here with you together" cringe


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nebbie and I talked about this


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
yeah, don't ever expect Nintendo themselves to actually speak up on this.


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of Nintendo's games are about overwhelming good vs overwhelming evil


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pokemon Company did


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"We're in this together and stand in solidarity with you ~~conviniently ignoring the fact that one of our upcoming titles is literally the antithesis of unity in these trying times~~"


[02-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Though Bill Trinen has been very supportive of the protests


[02-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo is trying to sell Action 52 good version


[02-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't have time for the protests


[02-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'd legit play an Action 52 Good version though


[02-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ooze was actually pretty decent, as unplayable as it was


[02-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ooze and Streamerz


[02-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Thoughts and prayers


[02-Jun-20 01:43 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1267599840332206083?s=21

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Two realities #RoseGarden https://t.co/Ha6AaRNWeh
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[02-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500583-trump-visits-historic-dc-church-after-protesters-cleared-with-tear

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Trump visits historic DC church after protesters cleared with tear gas
President Trump walked on foot to visit the historic St. John’s Church near the White House after protesters were forcefully removed from Lafayette Park by law enforcement who fired tear gas into the crowd.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpd2_06012020getty.jpg


[02-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Holy shit, some how this is the worst thing he’s done


[02-Jun-20 01:52 AM] jlun2#8758
is he even christain


[02-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
He's a businessman. I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually care about religion in any way, but knows what it can do to people


[02-Jun-20 01:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
_Sure, let's shoot people in legs, so they bleed out later_
https://twitter.com/proudsocialist/status/1267504043649187840

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Biden moments ago said we should train cops to shoot unarmed people “in the leg instead of the heart.”

This is so problematic. Cops shouldn’t shoot unarmed people at all.

How much longer are Democrats going to pretend that @JoeBiden’s cut out for this? https://t.co/Fc3H2tn1...
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[02-Jun-20 02:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> How much longer are Democrats going to pretend that @JoeBiden’s cut out for this?
it's literally him or orange man unless something happens between now and november tho


[02-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah Nintendo doesn't want to alienate anyone, ever.


[02-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their games are based on making unrealistic stupid evil villains that you the designated hero must defeat to save the world.


[02-Jun-20 02:01 AM] jlun2#8758
dont they already alienate people who think their stuff is childish tho


[02-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[02-Jun-20 02:01 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[02-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People that complain Nintendo stuff is too kiddie are mostly idiots who are secretly playing it anyways.


[02-Jun-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I never played Nintendo games cause I see them as 300% childish.
Never made shit about this either :shrugpony:


[02-Jun-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> lotters


[02-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
> shoot


[02-Jun-20 02:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't need gud 'murican when you have gun.


[02-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Jokes on y'all.
That's what makes it American :twiright:


[02-Jun-20 02:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
> is he even christain
@jlun2 

I dunno but his dad was a hardcore Protestant and Klansman who fought the Catholics.


[02-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Metroid and Zelda though


[02-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX News is just 24/7 footage of looted and vandalized stores these past few days


[02-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, I guess some parts of Zelda are sympathetic to Ganon?


[02-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you think about it


[02-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd _think_ that that might make its viewers ponder whether there might just be a problem in the country


[02-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But of course, it's only rage fuel


[02-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is 1/3 of the most powerful artifact in the world _always_ destined to be owned by the most evil person?


[02-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Inherited it, bought it, sued for it


[02-Jun-20 02:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/yd7LZ0ntAqQ

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Curb your racial profiling
I saw this video on reddit so I made it a meme I hope you enjoy.
Basically a couple cops arrest a guy thinking he is someone else.
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[02-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe the Gerudo give it to the male that gets born once in a century?


[02-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it goes to whoever is the biggest chad.


[02-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is always a bad person.


[02-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, one male born a century


[02-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The triforce itself isn't fond of this.


[02-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the whole race


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course he gets it


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you will not find shades of gray in Zelda


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ganon is just an unkillable embodiment of evil that always exists


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Metroid with the actual Metroids?


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very much a conservative view


[02-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Kill Ganon? Might as well ban guns" pretty much.


[02-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for Metroid, it's always Samus vs. some unquestionably-bad space pirates.


[02-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The metroids themselves are just tools.


[02-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Mother series?


[02-Jun-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1266929927116468225?s=20

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https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1266929927116468225?s=20
No group, protestors or civilians, have been anywhere close to as violent and sadistic as the police have been tonight.

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[02-Jun-20 02:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
A whole complication of police being violent shits.


[02-Jun-20 02:16 AM] jlun2#8758
> FOX News is just 24/7 footage of looted and vandalized stores these past few days
will this empower trump or nah


[02-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't the Mother series about mad scientists?


[02-Jun-20 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 I briefly listened to NPR on the way to work and they talked about this somewhat with an analyst and campaign manager. If she and her kin are to be believed no one knows because he campaigns both on chaos and LAW&ORDER


[02-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1267513356853919744

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Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?
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[02-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean partially?


[02-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's mostly about kids and weird shit happening


[02-Jun-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought "partially" was about the tweet and was like "what"


[02-Jun-20 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
In that twitter video exactly one minute in police walk up behind that woman and mace her. she never even saw it coming.


[02-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw FOX news is arguing that Trump is being mislead by kushner to be soft with the riots


[02-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They will throw _anyone_ under the bus to shield Trump


[02-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember I was watching a cooking/fashion reality show and one of the guest judges was someone married to one of the Kushners


[02-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPNUB8h0o-Y

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WOW!!!!! Local Police Racially Profiles An Off Duty FBI AGENT
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bPNUB8h0o-Y/sddefault.jpg


[02-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She said "I just wouldn't wear this" and the contestant said "Not even to dinner with the Kushners" and everyone got mad


[02-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
apparently that black dude is an off-duty FBI agent lmao


[02-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
those cops fucked up so hard


[02-Jun-20 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Fox news must want America to have its own Tiananmen Square.


[02-Jun-20 02:35 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jun-20 02:37 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1267548739125665792?s=20

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Fun Fact: On this day in 1927, Trump's father Fred Trump was arrested at a KKK rally. 

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[02-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-democrats-cities/

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Where Democrats And Republicans Live In Your City
Republicans and Democrats tend not to live side-by-side, even when they live in the same city.
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[02-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fake news, doesn't show any results

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[02-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now let's superimpose with where there's more police presence...


[02-Jun-20 02:52 AM] ononim#8141
https://theintercept.com/2020/06/01/louisville-police-left-the-body-of-david-mcatee-on-the-street-for-12-hours/

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Louisville Police Left David McAtee’s Body on the Street for 12 Hou...
The officers involved in the shooting did not activate their body cameras, in violation of policy, and Louisville Police Chief Steve Conrad was fired.
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[02-Jun-20 02:52 AM] ononim#8141
pigs killed the man who fed them


[02-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, so it became confirmed they didn't activate them


[02-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Cool


[02-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some virus forecasts projecting upward trend already
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/

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Where The Latest COVID-19 Models Think We're Headed — And Why They ...
We’re tracking nine infectious disease models to understand where the coronavirus death toll could be headed in the coming weeks
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-TRACKER_16X9.png


[02-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like we're not having a second wave after all and it's really just going to be a constant until there's a vaccine...


[02-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Public unrest definitely will delay the vaccine.


[02-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[02-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Robin is promptly shot by "Friend"*


[02-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, doesn't go very far west

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[02-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it amusing people haven't revived "better dead than red"

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[02-Jun-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
For the Detroit one I can tell you that the red just keeps going west.


[02-Jun-20 03:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why are people in Detroit still poor


[02-Jun-20 03:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
That is a long history. But basically after WW2 the auto industry began to move out.


[02-Jun-20 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Between then and the sixties "urban renewal" ploughed inner city highways through neighborhoods. Wealtheir whites could move out into the suburbs like my dad's family, actually a little beyond the suburbs.


[02-Jun-20 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
By the riots in the sixties wealth had mostly left the city and a lot of neighborhoods had been demolished for anything but additional housing. Poorer black communities were forced to live multiple families or generations into small single-family auto worker's homes, which are nice but not much larger than a standard apartment today.


[02-Jun-20 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
The reason why blacks did not have the wealth the whites had is because often job prospects were segregated informally in the auto industry. Black workers very often got the most dangerous and lower paying jobs in the city.


[02-Jun-20 03:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
By the seventies and eighties auto jobs had entirely left the city apart from Ford's monolithic River Rouge facility, but automation cut down its job needs from a peak of hundreds of thousands in the forties and fifties to just under ten thousand today.


[02-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't believe Mario is fucking dead

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[02-Jun-20 03:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
He wahoo'd his last.


[02-Jun-20 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
@SymphonyDawn3 So that basically sums up Detroit's decline. It's similar in a lot of ways to the decline of many other Midwestern industrial centers or even New England where the exit of traditional manufacturing to cheaper regions in the US (the South) or out of country entirely. But unlike Pittsburgh for example: Detroit entirely lacked the stabilizing impact of "Eds and Meds" or a university and hospital network, to this day the only operating hospital network in Detroit is the Henry Ford Health System, where as Pittsburgh has three. The University of Michigan long fled Detroit at the turn of the 19th-20th century to Ann Arbor to the south west. But the long term reliability of Eds and Meds is unreliable because their entire buisiness model is based on massive debt bubbles, and if they burst they collapse anyways, so Pittsburgh may get what is coming to it soon.


[02-Jun-20 03:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I can dunk on East Lansing, which I am sure is only carried by Michigan State.


[02-Jun-20 03:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'll miss Ann Arbor though because it is a beautiful if heccin' bougie ass city. Do not drive there on a game day. The hilly streets are still horse drawn carriage narrow and they can not take the half drunk frat boys.


[02-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOYAJFCNnM

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MANTENHA SE LIGADO
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USA police arrest south Sudanese not knowing he is FBI agent
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[02-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
full video


[02-Jun-20 03:34 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@AaronMk looks like you're from there since you know much about the history


[02-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
When were you when Mario was kill?


[02-Jun-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
He BLJed into the wrong neighborhood


[02-Jun-20 03:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
@SymphonyDawn3 I live just outside Detroit's periphery.


[02-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/agustkordei/status/1267579544212516865

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NICKELODEON REALLY STOPPED BROADCASTING TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY FOR WHATS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THIS WORLD. IM SO HAPPY THAT CHILDREN GET TO SEE THESE KINDS OF MESSAGES https://t.co/K2PxEjBgRG
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[02-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Treascair#7785
cue the screeching about how Nickelodeon's pushing a 'leftist agenda onto our CHILDREN!!1!'


[02-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Sony is posponing the PS5 release announcement to allow for "more important voices to be heard" which is good but I


[02-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
I've already seen some whining from gamers


[02-Jun-20 04:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Make them bitch and moan


[02-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
gamer genocide soon


[02-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
they brought it on themselves


[02-Jun-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/brianweeden/status/1267491604241231872?s=20

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Here a Republican Senator proudly calls for war crimes against Americans. “No quarter” means killing everyone instead of taking prisoners and is illegal under US and international law as well as the Sixth and Eigth Amendments (at least) https://t.co/KxScjkIhan
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[02-Jun-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ


[02-Jun-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/i/events/1267605726903463936

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Peaceful protesters dispersed with tear gas outside the White House ahead of Trump photo op
According to witnesses and media on the scene, police in Washington D.C. fired tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters outside the White House to disperse them before President Trump walked across the street to St John’s Church for a photo. The historic church was damaged overnight as George Floyd protests continued past curfew. Earlier in the Rose Garden, Trump said he is an “ally of all peaceful protestors” and threatened to deploy the military to American cities to quell violence and destruction.
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[02-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://deadline.com/2020/06/lapd-chief-michael-moore-george-floyds-death-is-on-looters-hands-1202948867/

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LAPD Chief Michel Moore Says George Floyd’s Death Is On Looters’ Ha...
At a press conference held by Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti on Monday, the city’s police chief, Michel Moore, initially sought to place blame on those fomenting violence. “Last night,…
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[02-Jun-20 04:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Was the murder a time traveller?


[02-Jun-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/lF0uiRS8asc

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[02-Jun-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
LPL not so subtly tells you how to steal guns from a police car


[02-Jun-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
Using magnets


[02-Jun-20 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Perfectly timed guide.


[02-Jun-20 04:24 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ-bIeJ4zOY once again

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[02-Jun-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

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White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twi...
Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.
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[02-Jun-20 04:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
False flag operations being preformed in a riot? :caddy: :hopeless:


[02-Jun-20 04:36 AM] jimm#1439
wal mart is closed for some reason


[02-Jun-20 04:36 AM] jimm#1439
even though I'm at least a hundred miles away from any protest


[02-Jun-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do they close at 10?


[02-Jun-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some walmarts close at 10


[02-Jun-20 04:37 AM] jimm#1439
they apparently will close at 5 now


[02-Jun-20 04:37 AM] jimm#1439
the usual covid hours were to 8:30


[02-Jun-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1267575148774928385

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Sweatshop Worker Devastated To Hear Jacket She Worked So Hard On Looted https://t.co/VszDXd3wT0
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[02-Jun-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-flags-matt-gaetz-antifa-tweet-as-glorifying-violence-2020-6

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Twitter flags tweet from Rep. Matt Gaetz about wanting to 'hunt dow...
Gaetz's tweet, posted Monday, read: "Now that we clearly see Antifa as terrorists, can we hunt them down like we do those in the Middle East?"
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[02-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why specifically cite the middle east though? Isn't that where brown people live? Does he just want to eliminate brown people for sport?


[02-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:squintyjack:


[02-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~I hope this shitpost remains a shitpost and doesn't come true, christ~~


[02-Jun-20 04:48 AM] jimm#1439
has anyone even done anything under the antifa name recently


[02-Jun-20 04:49 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah lol, there's not even a mention of the term before trump decided to put it under terrorist org lol


[02-Jun-20 04:49 AM] ononim#8141
at least in my expierence


[02-Jun-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really, There's no reason to call it antifa this time as it;s a protest about anti fachism and not a counter protest to an alt right rally


[02-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder


[02-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvatFnyhQJ4

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Don’t Be Racist I Am A Building
Don’t be racist I am a building. Song meme oh yeah I’m not on drugs
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[02-Jun-20 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you really want to get technical, all the protestors right now could be umbrellad under antifa, which is why antifa is a term being used against them so much now


[02-Jun-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
>Song meme oh yeah I'm not on drugs


[02-Jun-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
:doubt:


[02-Jun-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Do we have a ponified version of the press X to doubt meme?


[02-Jun-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
hm, a few but they're not that good


[02-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/george-floyd-america-pain-weekend-rallies-grip-live-200601132229392.html

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Police fire tear gas at peaceful DC protesters as Trump speaks
Live updates as Trump threatens to deploy US military if states do not halt 'violent protests' against police brutality.
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[02-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
so trump actually ordered peaceful protesters be attacked by the police


[02-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Crow#5457
so he can do his shitty ass photo shoot


[02-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
there was a church response here?


[02-Jun-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the church bishop responded to Trumps photo op


[02-Jun-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/st-johns-church-trump-visit-bible-george-floyd-2d7013fa-337c-42ef-9d1d-2acffbe59bbb.html

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St. John's clergy say Trump used "one of our churches as a prop"
"We so disassociate ourselves from the messages of this president."
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[02-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
At this point it would be better if he asked someone to photoshop him into a photo


[02-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[02-Jun-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He holds the bible like he's about to drop it into a trash can off screen


[02-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He probably did


[02-Jun-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt surprise me


[02-Jun-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[02-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks bibles are like remote controls


[02-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...last I checked, most bibles have "HOLY BIBLE" or similar written across the front of it


[02-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You grip them lightly to be able to aim flexibly at things you need to change.


[02-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Is he holding it backwards?


[02-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was that not obvious?


[02-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He saw a bible and put his thumb under it


[02-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
then flipped it to point upwards


[02-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[02-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So, explosion of covid cases when


[02-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Give it a week or so


[02-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Itsthinking protesters are wearing masks and getting disinfected with pepper sprays, everything is fine!


[02-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiface:


[02-Jun-20 05:18 AM] illumnious#7938
> At this point it would be better if he asked someone to photoshop him into a photo
@Stoopedhooy I'm working on that

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[02-Jun-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cop mace: the ultimate cure!


[02-Jun-20 05:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Get maced today!


[02-Jun-20 05:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/KannoYoungs/status/1267638120389980173

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About 10 minutes later, here it goes again. https://t.co/3yoxOAu0uw
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[02-Jun-20 05:23 AM] ononim#8141
DC


[02-Jun-20 05:23 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1267648584482258946?s=19

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A U.S. Army Blackhawk helicopter used a "show of force" maneuver on protesters in Washington, D.C. on Monday night. It's a tactic often conducted by low-flying jets in combat zones to scare away insurgents. https://t.co/g9kocdpz8G https://t.co/yMvx6eVuWZ
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[02-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/YousefNH2/status/1267637687554650112

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Just happened: a protest in a car run over a group of cops in Buffalo NY...Some of them might be dead 

 #BlackLivesMatter 
#protests2020 https://t.co/UraxbRhMuV
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[02-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
I'm surprised they didn't riddle the car with bullets


[02-Jun-20 05:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/liveinochi/status/1267504585926557696

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inochi (@liveinochi)
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cops wouldnt shoot you if you were being peaceful” https://t.co/VBrGddaAd8
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[02-Jun-20 05:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Vibing is now illegal


[02-Jun-20 05:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1267533879797149696?s=20

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"Can I ask you what's going to happen at 8, sir?"

"What's going to happen is we're going to start beating the fuck out of you." https://t.co/NYjTaSkDqq
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[02-Jun-20 05:31 AM] illumnious#7938
@Stoopedhooy there, you happy?

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[02-Jun-20 05:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I feel like Russian cops are more civilized @ononim


[02-Jun-20 05:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[02-Jun-20 05:36 AM] illumnious#7938
OF COURSE YOU'RE NOT


[02-Jun-20 05:38 AM] ononim#8141
I mean


[02-Jun-20 05:38 AM] ononim#8141
In comparison with US


[02-Jun-20 05:39 AM] ononim#8141
I'd say as a random person not actively questioning status quo I would feel safer walking besides Russian cop


[02-Jun-20 05:39 AM] ononim#8141
but that's uhhhhh


[02-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think russian riot cops use "rubber" bullets


[02-Jun-20 05:39 AM] ononim#8141
not really a meaningful comparision


[02-Jun-20 05:41 AM] ononim#8141
It's mostly that in my expierence russian cops don't have that much of power trip culture there they just do absolutelly whatever they want, and if you're just minding your business they're so trigger happy


[02-Jun-20 05:41 AM] ononim#8141
not to say that you want to cross them, *at all*


[02-Jun-20 05:42 AM] ononim#8141
but US cops lately look just stright up bloodthirsty


[02-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US cops are nurtured from birth on action and war movies


[02-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then highschool sportsball team culture, but they're the ones that weren't good enough to go pro


[02-Jun-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that, and it's literally ingrained in their training. Every bit of the tiny bit of "threat assessment" they're given is centered around identifying and neutralizing threats *to the cops*


[02-Jun-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hence, all they see when they're on the job are enemies and potential enemies, and their fellow boys in blue


[02-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, the god damned military is better trained on how to handle themselves around civilians than most police


[02-Jun-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and as for de-escalation? Forget it. That's literally the opposite of what they're taught


[02-Jun-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is why ex-military get shunted out of the force because they *aren't* doing things "the right way"


[02-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/1267614008280039424

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Throwback to November 2019, when the US banned the export of tear gas and pepper spray to Hong Kong because police there were using them on peaceful protestors.  https://t.co/sRVrnBnI7b
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[02-Jun-20 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I know it'd start WW3, but now would be a fantastic time for someone to try and launch a military assault on the US


[02-Jun-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think there's ever been a moment in the country's history when we're so vulnerable to that


[02-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd be a great moment for the Mexican president to start a campaign for building a wall on the US border


[02-Jun-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
except he wouldn't. Because he's smart and knows walls don't work


[02-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure Obrador is _that_ smart, unfortunately


[02-Jun-20 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ok, point taken - he's probably smart enough not to build the wall, but not smart enough not to campaign for one


[02-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
apparently people are saying these protests might be trump's reichstag moment


[02-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/BiliTony/status/1266191531557310464

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@roxmontoyaa Perdón pero aquí hay evidencia que contradice tu argumento https://t.co/QByUogjx0Z
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[02-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things would have to escalate a good deal further


[02-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Into government buildings burned down or houses raided


[02-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything less than that, even the GOP bootlickers would block him, nevermind the military


[02-Jun-20 06:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
When the US banned selling pepper spray and gas in Hong Kong, our diplomat Hua said: "the US is probably storing these stuffs for their own uses"

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[02-Jun-20 06:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I have the video but it's in Chinese...


[02-Jun-20 06:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Jun-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jun-20 07:08 AM] jimm#1439
I haven't heard of the national guard being responsible for any bad acts throughout all this, just the police, is that accurate?


[02-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Apparently there's a video of the guard shooting people in a suburb with rubber bullets who won't go inside their house


[02-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nevermind that's police


[02-Jun-20 07:10 AM] jimm#1439
this video or a different one? https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gtsaam/please_make_this_go_viral_i_am_begging_you_police/fse3za2/

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[02-Jun-20 07:10 AM] jimm#1439
people in the comments are saying that was just the police


[02-Jun-20 07:10 AM] jimm#1439
despite the bad headline


[02-Jun-20 07:11 AM] jimm#1439
this makes a clear case police training should be on the same standard as military


[02-Jun-20 07:12 AM] jimm#1439
actual emphasis on de-escalation, trigger discipline, not so easily scared by rioters


[02-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The police in the US get second hand military equipment


[02-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's easy to misidentify them


[02-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You can train them all you want, but unless they're actually held accountable for their actions, not much will come of it


[02-Jun-20 07:13 AM] jimm#1439
that too


[02-Jun-20 07:13 AM] jimm#1439
https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1267267244029083648 I don't have high hopes of this passing but it would be a good start

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This week, I am introducing the Ending Qualified Immunity Act to eliminate qualified immunity and restore Americans’ ability to obtain relief when police officers violate their constitutionally secured rights.
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[02-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Same and agreed


[02-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Honahue#0656
abolish the police


[02-Jun-20 07:18 AM] jimm#1439
fire them all and do a complete restaffing with new training requirements and accountability standards


[02-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
A more practical decision would be end the qualified immunity act and let the police weed themselves out over time


[02-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
they don't weed themselves out, unlike in Hollywood real police internal affairs departments don't like firing cops


[02-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Of course not


[02-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If they were held accountable legally though they don't have to be fired


[02-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's out of the police's hands


[02-Jun-20 07:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think "accountability" is something that's been systematically undermined for ages and it came to a head under this administration


[02-Jun-20 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like...they all wanted to turn back the clocks to just a year or two before the race riots changed America, and live in the world of Leave it to Beaver


[02-Jun-20 07:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then they go all surprised pikachu when, just a year or two down the road from that, *we've got race riots again for some inexplicable reason*


[02-Jun-20 07:46 AM] jimm#1439
it's hard to address corruption without changing out the leadership involved


[02-Jun-20 07:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's like actions have consequences but they've spent so long trying to create a world where that isn't true that they simply can't believe it can be true for them


[02-Jun-20 07:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And that kind of reckoning has consequences for all of us. The leopards are eating faces now so I'll enjoy mine while it's still on my skull


[02-Jun-20 07:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for addressing corruption, it's remarkable how effective transparency and active record-keeping measures go towards bringing the whole thing crashing down. Sanders may not have won enough hearts and minds, but he did enough to pull back the curtain on the Iowa caucuses that it's tanked that primary's credibility as a metric for the will of the nation


[02-Jun-20 07:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Jun-20 07:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This CNN criticist said "Open your eyes American, open your eyes!"


[02-Jun-20 07:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:tempsurprise:


[02-Jun-20 07:57 AM] byte[]#2610
my eyes are open


[02-Jun-20 08:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The comments of Chinese are full of "fake news"


[02-Jun-20 08:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
As soon as it's CNN


[02-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US conservatives hate CNN as well, call it China News Network


[02-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to not be an extremist means everyone will hate you


[02-Jun-20 08:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese call it "Chinese Negative News"


[02-Jun-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
CNN's TV programming is kinda trashy though it does have occasional moments of levity


[02-Jun-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
cnn.com is much better


[02-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
June 4 1989


[02-Jun-20 08:06 AM] byte[]#2610
@AlchemistLiang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRUO5HBvTM8

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MercWithAChimichanga
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Don Lemon and Rick Wilson laugh at Secretary Pompeo’s Ukraine map
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[02-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fake, Lenin only talked about minorities being put into video games

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[02-Jun-20 08:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't listen to that video, they speaks too quickly for me... Why are they laughing?


[02-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pompeo claimed the average american didn't care about Trump forcing Ukraine to dig dirt up on his political opponents because americans didn't know where Ukraine was, and got really mad a journalist asked them questions about it


[02-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
CNN contributor mocked the average Trump supporter by parodying them


[02-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can turn on subtitles with the "CC" button


[02-Jun-20 08:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not just a CNN contributor, it's Rick Wilson


[02-Jun-20 08:13 AM] byte[]#2610
he's semi-famous for his on-air hot takes


[02-Jun-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tj-Hp7AYlk

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Rick Wilson MSNBC Trump's Fans Are Childless Single Men Who Masturb...
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[02-Jun-20 08:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX News and Breitbart get so mad over these things


[02-Jun-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't _believe_ he said this and got away with it


[02-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When FOX spends so much time shitting on liberals and democrats and accusing them daily of wanting to sacrifice babies in the street to bring forth the communist satan


[02-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He wasn't wrong


[02-Jun-20 08:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't listen to the words of "This is America" as well...


[02-Jun-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah because it's kinda mumbled


[02-Jun-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://genius.com/Childish-gambino-this-is-america-lyrics

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Childish Gambino – This Is America
Dropping amid ongoing political and cultural tumult and turmoil, Childish Gambino’s “This is America” appears to be a commentary on black life in America and American culture as a
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[02-Jun-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
here you go


[02-Jun-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
this has all the lyrics and explainers


[02-Jun-20 08:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't find Chinese translated version because it's censored in China


[02-Jun-20 08:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
For "violent screen"


[02-Jun-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
suggest using a VPN


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'm using google to translate these words


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
it won't work


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
the lyrics are not really explainable on their own in context without a _really strong_ knowledge of AAVE


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>sudden loud banging on door in the background


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
google translate does not know very much AAVE


[02-Jun-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
and it certainly can't explain the proper meaning of "This a celly (Ha) / That's a tool (Yeah)"


[02-Jun-20 08:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
AAVE?


[02-Jun-20 08:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English

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African-American Vernacular English
African-American Vernacular English (AAVE, ), known less precisely as Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), Black Vernacular English (BVE) or colloquially Ebonics (a controversial term), is the variety of English natively spoken, particularly in urban communities, ...


[02-Jun-20 08:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
African Amer-


[02-Jun-20 08:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Okay...


[02-Jun-20 08:21 AM] byte[]#2610
stuff like this

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[02-Jun-20 08:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually Google can't even translate "Black Lives Matter" into Chinese correctly


[02-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrZlWw8Di10

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Jive Speak  Aeroplane!
Two passengers speaking "Jive" From the comedy movie Airplane! (1980)
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[02-Jun-20 08:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Google's translation is "black-colored life is important"


[02-Jun-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
wow


[02-Jun-20 08:23 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
It reached Curitiba, yeah Brasil protest turnin slowly into the riots of USA


[02-Jun-20 08:24 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://twitter.com/jppetri/status/1267606570550071296?s=21

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Antifas quebrando tudo agora à noite em Curitiba em protestos contra Bolsonaro: https://t.co/FJj6b86Mgq
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[02-Jun-20 08:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most people that say things like "don't mix politics and ponies!" have a dozen images of aryann or ponies in MAGA hats in their faves


[02-Jun-20 09:03 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
@AlchemistLiang you’re chinese?


[02-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
_checking own faves for political shit_


[02-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I doubt I have anything


[02-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Because I rarely fav anything :D


[02-Jun-20 09:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@RD yes


[02-Jun-20 09:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Damn I forgot how to @ a person directly


[02-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lmao, sorry, but I could not avoid faving `1537768`, it is so goofy and stupid


[02-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:xd:


[02-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@NaturalNat🇯🇵


[02-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You can right click the name on desktop, and I think you click the name or avatar on mobile


[02-Jun-20 09:07 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Ah ok, my friend is learning Mandarin and he changed his phone language to it


[02-Jun-20 09:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
@Raptorshy


[02-Jun-20 09:07 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ah


[02-Jun-20 09:08 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I only understand very few because one or two are the same in kanji


[02-Jun-20 09:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So are you Japanese?


[02-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I only remember a tiny bit from college. I never took the class but I had french class and there was a chinese class before it that I'd sometimes sit in on, and I started learning it on my own


[02-Jun-20 09:09 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Guess the sentence? 推文


[02-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I only remember some of the numbers and how to say goodbye


[02-Jun-20 09:09 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
That’s what it’s written for me


[02-Jun-20 09:10 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
推: guess 文:sentence (as in a writing not a criminal sentence)


[02-Jun-20 09:11 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> So are you Japanese?
@AlchemistLiang  

Yes


[02-Jun-20 09:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
推文 means Tweet


[02-Jun-20 09:11 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
And how you pronounce it? In Japanese is "Sui-bun"


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Although it makes no sense


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
The radicals are the same but it means nothing on japanese


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Wow, are you trilingual?


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
推 read as tui


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's the translation by pronunciation of Tweet


[02-Jun-20 09:12 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> Wow, are you trilingual?
@byte[]  

I am born and raised in Japan


[02-Jun-20 09:13 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Like the bird tweet or to write a foreign word?


[02-Jun-20 09:13 AM] byte[]#2610
And live in Brazil (presumably speaks Brazilian Portuguese?)


[02-Jun-20 09:13 AM] byte[]#2610
And talk here in English


[02-Jun-20 09:13 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
In japanese a a tweet is ちゅん


[02-Jun-20 09:13 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
So if anyone who watched Konosuba chunchunmaru means " a round tweet" literally speaking


[02-Jun-20 09:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It looks like 5Φh for me


[02-Jun-20 09:14 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> And live in Brazil (presumably speaks Brazilian Portuguese?)
@byte[]  

No I am still in Japan, also Brasil has the biggest Japanese expatriates in the world besides the country itself


[02-Jun-20 09:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maru sounds like an f-word


[02-Jun-20 09:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
马鹿


[02-Jun-20 09:15 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
It reads like "Chun"


[02-Jun-20 09:15 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
ちゅん


[02-Jun-20 09:16 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
And 丸 <— Maru means circle ⭕️ or sphere


[02-Jun-20 09:16 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
The national flag official name is the 日の丸 or Sun Circle


[02-Jun-20 09:17 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> 马鹿
@AlchemistLiang  

What does this mean how one read?


[02-Jun-20 09:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It read as "malu" in Chinese


[02-Jun-20 09:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And means... idk


[02-Jun-20 09:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just f-word


[02-Jun-20 09:18 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> And live in Brazil (presumably speaks Brazilian Portuguese?)
@byte[]  

I speak Portuguese, English, Japanese, Spanish and can read French and some German and Russian at least say the alphabet and some words


[02-Jun-20 09:18 AM] byte[]#2610
the cunning linguist


[02-Jun-20 09:19 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I just like not to be dependent of translators and translator folks


[02-Jun-20 09:19 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
But there are languages I will not learn for personal and difficult reasons


[02-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Zie shuey


[02-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Because I have to sleep


[02-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(I don't remember what the romanization actually is)


[02-Jun-20 09:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
私の日本語本當錘子


[02-Jun-20 09:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
(Tried to type a Japanese sentence)


[02-Jun-20 09:23 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
My japanese book


[02-Jun-20 09:23 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Can’t translate the rest


[02-Jun-20 09:25 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
The last radical means "child" though


[02-Jun-20 09:25 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Anything with 子 means a child or small version


[02-Jun-20 09:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... It's fake Japanese mixed with Chinese


[02-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I remember that one


[02-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh wait I was going to bed


[02-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤼‍♂️

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[02-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder how bad that felt on asphalt


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[02-Jun-20 10:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/sirchubz_/status/1267668053392683008

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[02-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
wow, where'd they get that from?


[02-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
lawl, there's a conservative dude saying trump's guaranteed to win re-election because of the protests


[02-Jun-20 12:26 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Is the rest wasn’t show I would say that was a perfect spear a la Edge


[02-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/guo5g1/top_minds_of_rconservative_use_antifa_account/

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[02-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Crow#5457
behold, a stupid person's version of a false flag operation


[02-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

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White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twi...
Other misinformation and misleading claims spread across Twitter on Sunday night and into Monday related to the protests.
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[02-Jun-20 12:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Jun-20 12:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looks like kids


[02-Jun-20 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I know you are but what am I


[02-Jun-20 01:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Will corona in murica raise up again?


[02-Jun-20 01:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If it will I'll buy some medical treatment stocks


[02-Jun-20 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will indeed


[02-Jun-20 01:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also never actually fell


[02-Jun-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people just stopped paying attention to it


[02-Jun-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-church-photo-op-in-fury-at-bunker-mockery-reports-2020-6

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[02-Jun-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aww poor widdle bunker babby


[02-Jun-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-china-using-george-floyd-protests-undermine-us-criticism-authoritarianism-2020-6

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Iran and China are using the George Floyd protests to undermine US ...
Iran and China are gloating and accusing the US of hypocrisy for its criticisms over how they treat citizens and react to protests.
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[02-Jun-20 02:42 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is "criticism anthoritarianism"?


[02-Jun-20 02:50 PM] AaronMk#4499
That's not the full title. The full title is something like, "Iran and China are using the George Floyd protests to undermine US criticism of their own authortarianism"


[02-Jun-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the title, yeah


[02-Jun-20 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-chokehold-bill-vote-de-blasio-george-floyd-protests-2020-6

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New York City is reportedly voting on a bill that would criminalize...
Mayor Bill de Blasio promised to veto the bill in 2015, but said Sunday that he would support it if it included certain protections for police.
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[02-Jun-20 03:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me 
Talking Trump Birthday Card - Wishes You A Happy Birthday in Donald Trump's Real Voice - Surprise Someone with A Personal Birthday Greeting from The President of The United States - Includes Envelope https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074B4BCBV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_78K1EbGBK9ESE


[02-Jun-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god


[02-Jun-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cursed birthday card


[02-Jun-20 03:49 PM] ononim#8141
https://akipress.com/news:642727:Mongolia_to_provide_$1_million_aid_to_United_States_to_fight_coronavirus/

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Mongolia to provide $1 million aid to United States to fight corona...
The government of Mongolia decided to provide humanitarian assistance worth $1 million to the United States to help cope with COVID-19 pandemic
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[02-Jun-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Twitter suspends hundreds over #DCBlackout hoax
A "blackout" that never happened and a fake "left-wing" account are among those banned.
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[02-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://7news.com.au/news/north-america/prime-minister-scott-morrison-calls-for-investigation-after-7news-reporter-and-cameraman-assaulted-in-us-riots-c-1074160

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PM demands answers after Sunrise reporter attacked by police at Whi...
7NEWS US Correspondent Amelia Brace and cameraman Tim Myers were struck by police near the White House in the country’s capital.
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[02-Jun-20 05:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why would you assault


[02-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They can get away with it


[02-Jun-20 05:48 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They don't even belong as protesters


[02-Jun-20 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Free opportunity to be the animal you are and hurt people that can't fight back


[02-Jun-20 05:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Are these policeman corrupt or what


[02-Jun-20 05:49 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Surely wouldn't attack a citizen at random


[02-Jun-20 05:50 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
who doesn't participate in such activity


[02-Jun-20 05:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*What the fuck*


[02-Jun-20 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Surely wouldn't attack a citizen at random
@SymphonyDawn3  oh, if only you knew, my dear


[02-Jun-20 05:54 PM] Honahue#0656
police aren'


[02-Jun-20 05:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 how fucked up is this country


[02-Jun-20 05:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
you even can't live peacefully


[02-Jun-20 05:54 PM] Honahue#0656
police aren't corrupt, the system of policing is, they investigate their own crimes and aren't accountable to the population they police


[02-Jun-20 05:55 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Even if Philippines is dangerous, I can live peacefully here


[02-Jun-20 05:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't really want to go to America if things are that way


[02-Jun-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-congratulates-overwhelming-force-domination-against-protesters-2020-6

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Trump congratulates himself for the 'overwhelming force' and 'domin...
Trump's tweet comes after riot police fired tear gas and flash grenades at peaceful protesters near the White House to clear the way for a photo op.
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[02-Jun-20 06:02 PM] Honahue#0656
come on Trump do a George Washington become the second president to use the army on US citizens


[02-Jun-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-curfew-extended-through-sunday-june-6-mayor-2020-6

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New York City's curfew will begin 3 hours earlier and last through ...
The US' largest city will effectively shut down at 8 p.m. every night until June 7, the mayor said, after the first curfew did little to quell unrest.
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[02-Jun-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It didnt work the first time! But it will work this time for sure because this one is earlier!"


[02-Jun-20 06:32 PM] jimm#1439
> <https://i.redd.it/hiqdxe9bte251.jpg>
I like the one where the person drawing just gave up and wrote "hitler"


[02-Jun-20 06:33 PM] jimm#1439

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[02-Jun-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/500681-dc-mayor-didnt-see-provocation-before-move-to-clear-lafayette-square

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DC mayor 'didn't see provocation' before move to clear Lafayette Sq...
Washington, D.C.
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[02-Jun-20 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/500480-trump-rule-limits-states-from-blocking

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Trump rule limits states from blocking pipeline projects
The Trump administration gutted a key portion of the Clean Water Act on Monday, limiting states’ ability to block controversial pipeline projects that cross their waterways.
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[02-Jun-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/500190-trump-administration-looks-to-fast-track-logging-on-public-lands

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Trump administration looks to fast track logging on public lands
The Trump administration is proposing to fast track logging on public lands, introducing two proposals Thursday that would limit the environmental review of new projects.
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[02-Jun-20 07:00 PM] ononim#8141
https://grootpoepjeplasjehoofd.tumblr.com/post/619785193456386048/i-love-how-you-can-hear-the-journalists-and-the

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Huge, Sharp, New
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Huge, Sharp, New
I love how you can hear the journalist's and the studio host's trust in the police evaporate live on air
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[02-Jun-20 07:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CA7zudxDeLj/?igshid=1jtoq4udxmuvj

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MSNBC on Instagram: “While reporting from a demonstration in Seattl...
5,444 Likes, 670 Comments - MSNBC (@msnbc) on Instagram: “While reporting from a demonstration in Seattle on Monday night, @jolingkent was hit by a flash-…”
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[02-Jun-20 07:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1267859406407991303?s=21

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Saint Hoax (@SaintHoax)
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1267859406407991303?s=21
Never forget when Trump took out full-page ads in an effort to execute 5 black teens (ages 14-16) for a crime they didn’t commit.
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[02-Jun-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1267835936118882304?s=21

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Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr)
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This is what leadership, action and law & order from @realDonaldTrump looks like. 

Big difference between this and what all these leftwing hacks like De Blasio have been doing…Dem mayors and Govs need to follow the President’s lead and protect law-abiding Americans! https://...
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[02-Jun-20 07:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/500694-hong-kong-leader-accuses-us-of-double-standard-on-protests

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Hong Kong leader accuses US of 'double standard' on protests
Hong Kong’s leader on Tuesday said protests in the U.S. are an example of “double standards” held by foreign governments who are criticizing Beijing’s push for national security legislation that will impact the semi-autonomous territory.
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[02-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1267644703752818689

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https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1267644703752818689
CHICAGO LOOTING TVS FROM MOVING TRAIN
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[02-Jun-20 07:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The western way


[02-Jun-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jun-20 07:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12336675

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Fact check: Viral video of FBI agent getting arrested false
Video of black man getting arrested before police find out he's an FBI agent, is it true?
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[02-Jun-20 07:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Crow you may be interested


[02-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
these protests are the best reality show i've ever seen


[02-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twithisshit:


[02-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't mean to be cynical, but the events are interesting to watch.


[02-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://youtu.be/dt94RzzrOTQ

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Andywarski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt94RzzrOTQ
New Amazon Commercial - 2020
Made by @WesternMasculine from telegram. GO FOLLOW HIM.
FOLLOW DLIVE: https://dlive.tv/SubCultured
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[02-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/ycShZp-niuQ

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TheBitBlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycShZp-niuQ
An Important Message About My Past & Recent Events
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[02-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
do u really want me to watch 23 minutes long video with random dude?


[02-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You don't need to


[02-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/wow-okay-the-simpson-okily-dokily-gotta-go-gif-16356493

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[02-Jun-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267808120136511489

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267808120136511489
D.C. had no problems last night. Many arrests. Great job done by all. Overwhelming force. Domination. Likewise, Minneapolis was great (thank you President Trump!).
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[02-Jun-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/717423385491144731/image0.png

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[02-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why is he so obsessed with "domination"


[02-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is he a football bully


[02-Jun-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
it's real


[02-Jun-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/notch/status/1267815379503464461

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@SethEverman @realDonaldTrump I don't even understand the concept on a logical level.

It's like a riddle.
"I have four kids, but no family. Who am I?"
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[02-Jun-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
unironically based tweet from notch


[02-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay, somehow this video went from "I don't think the voice of Mario should talk about politics" to "I like crossdressing and wearing diapers"

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[02-Jun-20 08:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And "Liberals are hypocrites for mocking me for it"


[02-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[02-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/ycShZp-niuQ?t=1204

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TheBitBlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycShZp-niuQ&start=1204
An Important Message About My Past & Recent Events
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[02-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The end rant is so willfully ignorant and immature that it's actually hilarious.


[02-Jun-20 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Danez_Smif/status/1267199206256713729

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Charge and Arrest All 4! Abolish Police! (@Danez_Smif)
https://twitter.com/Danez_Smif/status/1267199206256713729
My boo’s bff posted this summery of what’s really going on in Minneapolis and it’s so clear. This is what it’s like. Bump what the media or the mayor or the governor is saying.
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[02-Jun-20 09:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Based anti-cop YPG styled organizing


[02-Jun-20 09:24 PM] jlun2#8758
well that answers how they sleep; they take turns


[02-Jun-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man, what is it with places only good for their chikken and going conservative?


[02-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are they afraid of lab grown strips?


[02-Jun-20 09:39 PM] jlun2#8758
I would love lab grown stripes; my chicken is mostly bone and I feel like getting ripped off


[02-Jun-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
I would be satisfied even if it's just deep fried lab grown chicken skins


[02-Jun-20 10:01 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/angeldigit/status/1267751644198047746?s=20

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𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗸𝗶𝗲 ⚘ ☢️👹🧪 (@angeldigit)
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the homeless man who had his stuff burned got his stuff replaced by the community <3 https://t.co/JsriST6vrH
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[02-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They shared the loot?


[02-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[02-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Midknight#9798
looked up the wendy's thing. it's not wendy's itself, it's a ceo of a company that franchises restaurants. a big one, to be sure, but not necessarily linked to your particular local source of spicy chicken goodness.


[02-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Midknight#9798
he also operates taco bells and pizza huts


[02-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Midknight#9798
probably others, but that's what I've found so far


[02-Jun-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
the correct way to target rich people is guillotines


[02-Jun-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
looting their businesses is unproductive


[02-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Midknight#9798
tbh that would probably be easier than locating the 750+ restaurants I don't want to patronize for just that one guy


[02-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Midknight#9798
but I don't have free time to build one. I'm an essential worker ^_^


[02-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Midknight#9798
That said, it looks like they're mostly in Texas, New Mexico, Ohio, New York, and a light scattering in other east coast states. so if I ever travel to the east coast I'll just look for taco trucks for lunch instead of taco bells 😛


[02-Jun-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] do people even kill rich ppl nowadays?


[02-Jun-20 10:29 PM] jlun2#8758
well, outside other rich ppl killing each other


[02-Jun-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
there's no point in adhering to ethical consumerism because the system is inherently unethical


[02-Jun-20 10:29 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 no


[02-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Midknight#9798
that's defeatist. ^_^


[02-Jun-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
it's pragmatic


[02-Jun-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds impossible to kill the system then


[02-Jun-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
searching "do people target rich people" gave thi https://www.financialsamurai.com/the-rise-of-stealth-wealth-guide-to-staying-invisible-from-society-rage/

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The Rise Of Stealth Wealth: Ways To Stay Invisible From Society If ...
Becoming wealthy has never been easier in America. However, surviving as a wealthy person on the other hand, has never been tougher as the wealth gap continues to widen. The government goes after you if you make much more than $200,000 a year (Medicare tax, AMT, deduction phas...
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[02-Jun-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
and it makes rich ceos sound like an oppressed minority

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[02-Jun-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Help help, get me to Mars where I'm safe from taxation!


[02-Jun-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/george-will-donald-trump/index.html

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One of America's most prominent conservative columnists wants Repub...
For the better part of the last four decades, George F. Will has been at the intellectual center of American conservatism. Now he is calling for a full-blown rout of the Republican Party at the ballot box in November.
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[02-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Translation: He realized that oppressing blakks and gays while making the free market take over comes with America turning into a failed state dictatorship.


[02-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wants his milquetoast conservatives who just keep the healthcare private and pretend that there's nothing to say about race.


[02-Jun-20 11:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/AmiHorowitz/status/1267908030206816259

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[02-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are sides? I thought it was just deathmatch.


[02-Jun-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/thEMANacho/status/1267609472589090816

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Dear white people,
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[02-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://imgur.com/gallery/tvag2gv

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Police in Philly are putting electrical tape over their badge numbers to hide their identity
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[02-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://streamable.com/ewu6su

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[03-Jun-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
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Donny goes on a book tour
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[03-Jun-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
My struggle, has been the greatest struggle. Huge struggle. Very difficult, but managed it beautifully. Managed it the best actually. That's what everyone is saying. But the fake news media won't cover it.


[03-Jun-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
Ah, I sure remember the Holy Bible and reading about the great wall of Mexico in it.


[03-Jun-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://old.reddit.com/r/HighQualityGifs/comments/gv60j3/donny_goes_on_a_book_tour/fsnewrj/

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[03-Jun-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
(linked comment)


[03-Jun-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol, that guy I posted has lost over 3k subs in under two days


[03-Jun-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking you mean the crossdressing diaper gamer vent? how much at start?


[03-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
209k


[03-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now 206


[03-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oddly the video has gotten way more views than his usual


[03-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't know why he doesn't get people like his cringy spicy takes best


[03-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/trump-throws-garbage-can-through-mcdonald-s-window-befo-1843861840

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Trump Throws Garbage Can Through McDonald’s Window Before Looting $...
WASHINGTON—Shouting “Go! Go! Go!” as an alarm blared, President Donald Trump reportedly threw a garbage can through a McDonald’s window early Tuesday morning before looting $2,000 in Big Macs. According to sources, Trump, seemingly oblivious to the broken glass sticking out of...
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[03-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what it has been like being the White House chef/pastry chef these past few years


[03-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/vcgriffin/status/1267928956281466881
Someone thinks that derpibooru should have featured BLM art instead :lul:

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Hey @Derpibooru , This is not good enough, have some courage, take a stance, stop @Derpibooru being used as a place where racism in the brony community goes unchallenged
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[03-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude Trump eats fast food cause he thinks it makes him harder to poison.


[03-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you really think he has people cook stuff?


[03-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh hell no I ain't touching that


[03-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also eeee egg got featured


[03-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Raptorshy it is BROWN


[03-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[03-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It is!


[03-Jun-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
egg lives matter


[03-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268

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[03-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
6 days ago


[03-Jun-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
I doubt Trump would want to eat anything that wasn't McDonalds regardless of whether he was paranoid about ti


[03-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm very pleased I didn't have to do it till the end of time :>


[03-Jun-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
he likes the taste


[03-Jun-20 01:13 AM] jimm#1439
apparently that video is a storeowner vs looter, is he detaining him for the police or something?


[03-Jun-20 01:14 AM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[03-Jun-20 01:15 AM] green_byte#1188
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/police-and-soldiers-return-fire-killing-man-in-louisville

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Police and soldiers return fire, killing man in Louisville
Police officers and National Guard soldiers enforcing a curfew in Louisville killed a man early Monday when they returned fire after someone in a large group fired at them first, the city's police chief said.A shocked witness said the group had nothing to do with the protests,...
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[03-Jun-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
@Stoopedhooy if it had BLM featured there be even more ramblings from nationalists tho


[03-Jun-20 01:15 AM] green_byte#1188
Riots beacase why the fuck not.


[03-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@jlun2 yes


[03-Jun-20 01:16 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm. Riots everywhere for some reason.


[03-Jun-20 01:17 AM] jlun2#8758
because cops are nuts


[03-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>for some reason
Was you under a rock? :smugcaddy:


[03-Jun-20 01:18 AM] green_byte#1188
Just heard about the riots in the last 3 days


[03-Jun-20 01:22 AM] green_byte#1188
https://www.wave3.com/2020/06/01/surveillance-video-captures-looters-destroying-small-businesses-downtown-louisville/

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[03-Jun-20 01:23 AM] green_byte#1188
About 30 minutes away from where I live


[03-Jun-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
> At this point it would be better if he asked someone to photoshop him into a photo
@Stoopedhooy

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[03-Jun-20 01:23 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[03-Jun-20 01:28 AM] illumnious#7938
what? it's not good enough????


[03-Jun-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte ask @Nebbie about it, they seem to love talking about it


[03-Jun-20 01:31 AM] ononim#8141
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[03-Jun-20 01:31 AM] illumnious#7938
:GWchadThinkeyes:


[03-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[03-Jun-20 01:34 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm. I think found something more about the riots stuff


[03-Jun-20 01:35 AM] green_byte#1188
Because of the death of someone called George Floyd


[03-Jun-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte white police choked defenceless black person and ppl are pissed


[03-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Murder, not "death"


[03-Jun-20 01:36 AM] jlun2#8758
then during riot police shot protestors


[03-Jun-20 01:36 AM] jlun2#8758
making ppl more angry


[03-Jun-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
followed by police trying to act like an invading military force, which again ism not helping


[03-Jun-20 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/_NotISaidTheCat/status/1267503585887236096

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THIS! Literally just brought me to tears. This is so beautiful. Our Polynesian Brothers and Sisters doing their traditional Haka for Black Lives Matter in New Zealand. The world is coming together and it is so beautiful. #blacklivesmatter #georgefloyd #breonnataylor #ahmadarb...
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[03-Jun-20 01:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
C A N N I B A L I Z E   T H E   H E A R T S   O F   C O P S


[03-Jun-20 01:37 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[03-Jun-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[03-Jun-20 01:37 AM] green_byte#1188
All this is unnecessary.


[03-Jun-20 01:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI851yJUQQw

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на кого ставить копирайт - не знаю, надеюсь видео не удалят! )

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[03-Jun-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most people are just trrying to protest peacefully, then officers mace them and arrest innocents for getting hostile


[03-Jun-20 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
This has gone beyond George Floyd now.


[03-Jun-20 01:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Copying and pasting a Discord post I made elsewhere

> Fucking cops making themselves look like fucking apes right now.
> [7:33 PM]
> And I'm sitting here scratching my head at how people are still trying to defend them.
> [7:34 PM]
> Like at this point it's evolved beyond George Floyd and is now a chain reaction of action, response, and escalation. Cops kill innocent man, so people understandably protest, cops try to trash the fucking party, people get understandably pissed, cops go full Combine on everything that moves.
> [7:34 PM]
> Xi Jingpeng, liberate this country with your Chengdu fighters.


[03-Jun-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is centuries of police racial tension snapping like a plane through a steel beam


[03-Jun-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
>>852153


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[03-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Planes don't melt steal beams tho


[03-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
My love for Blue does though ~


[03-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Aww they made the joke first


[03-Jun-20 01:42 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[03-Jun-20 01:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways in case anyone missed it the first time I posted it, quick over-view of the fucked shit the US did to derail literally anything good in the Cold War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=API2X_7NgTc

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[03-Jun-20 01:42 AM] green_byte#1188
I think that's enough memeing now


[03-Jun-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
normally, this is where the president would coem in and try to de-escalate, but right now our president is trying to pour hot lead on the situation by getting the fucking military involved


[03-Jun-20 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which contextually relates to mostly far-right terrorism in the third world against nominally progressive and milque-toast socialists and those left.


[03-Jun-20 01:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
If not those left of even right.


[03-Jun-20 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
> normally, this is where the president would coem in and try to de-escalate, but right now our president is trying to pour hot lead on the situation by getting the fucking military involved
@prism stryder(intexda) 

Which reminds me of a line an analysis gave when doing an interview on him, and so far it's holding: Trump campaigned on a platform of law and order, but he practices chaos and dysfunction.


[03-Jun-20 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Things are going to get much, much worse before it's better.


[03-Jun-20 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anticipating a third quasi-white terror soon


[03-Jun-20 01:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I don't mean "white terror" as something by white people.


[03-Jun-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am anticipating the white house being on fire somehow


[03-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He definitely won't get re-elected now.


[03-Jun-20 01:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
White Terror as the outpouring of state terror against democratic and leftist elements


[03-Jun-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whether it's literal or metaphorical remains to be seen


[03-Jun-20 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
C L I P P I T Y   C L O P https://twitter.com/Flynxy/status/1267952596079325184

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[03-Jun-20 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
R I D E   D O W N   A  C O P


[03-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nut


[03-Jun-20 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Time to add a new verse to the song.
https://youtu.be/BiMUOuYUy1w

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[03-Jun-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 01:50 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[03-Jun-20 01:50 AM] green_byte#1188
And that has to do with it how?


[03-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Most horses need special training to trample people though @AaronMk


[03-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Honahue#0656
most people aren't trained to face down 2000lbs of animal and rider


[03-Jun-20 01:53 AM] green_byte#1188
Horse talk in #politics beacase why not.


[03-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes. Animal will just stand in place and panic while it gets shot point blank.


[03-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It may look epic tho


[03-Jun-20 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can see trump sending tanks to police forces and declaring it a spectacular thing that violent police forces now have a tank to run people over and shoot them with


[03-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Honahue#0656

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[03-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not exclusive to Trump, but he's not helping


[03-Jun-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[03-Jun-20 01:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Derpibooru users on website: Fucking Nig- uh Ziggers.:zeeb: 

Derpibooru users on Discord : :glimmer: :equality: :communism: 🔥 :glowing_eyes:

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[03-Jun-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm unsure where the line is on who can give the police full military war vehicles though


[03-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@PwnyPony all edgelords are sitting in their racist 4chan servers


[03-Jun-20 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There sure are a lot of them tbh.


[03-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[03-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I sat in plenty of them and they all are full of zeeb shitposts and reposts from /pol/


[03-Jun-20 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
> White Terror as the outpouring of state terror against democratic and leftist elements
@AaronMk  I wonder does that mean they'll enforce religion given that's popular among the right


[03-Jun-20 02:09 AM] jlun2#8758
also what kind of leftist elements?


[03-Jun-20 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
The American take is much looser and weirder than in countries like say, Spain or Russia. If there's any new Great Awakening it'll be Evangelical in nature.


[03-Jun-20 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
> also what kind of leftist elements?
@jlun2 

Right now: anti-racist organizations. Trump has invoked AntiFa and Anarchism as the enemy but with the rhetoric directed at black rights organizations.


[03-Jun-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> If there's any new Great Awakening it'll be Evangelical in nature.
bleh more hypocritical anti-woman/vax/science/sex/environment creationists then


[03-Jun-20 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Most likely. Any the types who will momentarily allow themselves to lapse for the fun of it. Like legit will partake in Voodoo and shit because a prominent tenant of Protestantism is the belief in God and the Word of Christ is enough. You need not do anything, by believing you are auto-piloted to heaven.


[03-Jun-20 02:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
So as Felix Beiderman usually rants, you get some stupid, hypocritical dumb asses.


[03-Jun-20 02:16 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds seductive to young men? :shrugpony:


[03-Jun-20 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Basically anyone rose Conservative.


[03-Jun-20 02:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since 9/10 out of ten it's social performance.


[03-Jun-20 02:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Go to church, meet your service friends, act holy, go home, be unholy.


[03-Jun-20 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
I forget where in this, and I'm not going to really look for it, but this is where Felix Beiderman gets fucking pissed at Meghan McCain for talking about how strong her faith is while she does everything that is eight levels of heresy and converting between religions.


[03-Jun-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
how is that sustainable? wont ppl go "why am i pretending to be unholy?" and skip the church part


[03-Jun-20 02:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 No, because church in the US is a matter of who has the better coffee on Sunday and who has the best daycare for the kids.


[03-Jun-20 02:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://grootpoepjeplasjehoofd.tumblr.com/post/619785193456386048/i-love-how-you-can-hear-the-journalists-and-the
This video posted earlier perfectly captures why minorities don't call the police when things are happening.
It also reminds me of a time when the police were invited to my school to talk about calling the police and it ended up being and argument about when you should call the police most people saying they would not call the police in most situations. Ended with the guy calling us a bunch of fenian bastards and the principal being mad as fuck at us. :wheeze:

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Huge, Sharp, New
I love how you can hear the journalist's and the studio host's trust in the police evaporate live on air
https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qba7roJo101w04w2n_frame1.jpg


[03-Jun-20 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Churches here in America have gone into offering a bunch of non-religious services largely to expand their congregation and thus income. The church next to me offers a full gym and sports courts for their members, as well as conference spaces and they have a "non-profit" coffee shop that sells mochas suspiciously priced like normal mochas I can get elsewhere and slightly more depressing than those.


[03-Jun-20 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Church is more of a social function than a religious function. Though it can take on a religious form in Appalachia where snake handling and worship is more common and handling snakes becomes a more active profession of and ritual of handling and beating the devil.


[03-Jun-20 02:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
But here it lapses out of pure Christianity into a new form of paganism which is wild as fuck.


[03-Jun-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
> beating the devil
:squintyjack:


[03-Jun-20 02:24 AM] jlun2#8758
are you sure it's not masturbating to the devil, but "I believe in Christ, so it's fine"?


[03-Jun-20 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well the Devil comes to Adam and Eve in Genesis as a snake, or so it's been translated in the King James Bible. Through the snake Satan encourages Eve and then Adam to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Fast forward to the present era that was translated by some probably insane Scottish preacher in Moonshine country going, "Y'know, I can show off my ownership of my own temptations and victory over Satan symbolically by holding a snake that can kill me"


[03-Jun-20 02:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a movement of snake handlers was born.


[03-Jun-20 02:28 AM] jlun2#8758
snake fetish :sombralick:


[03-Jun-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 02:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
America can't breath.


[03-Jun-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/XRP_Baghead/status/1267618924524421120

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#Boston Police Officers Caught On Video With Truck Full Of Bricks In Ally Way

 @Inevitable_ET @PunishDem1776 @2runtherace @X22Report @prayingmedic https://t.co/Hx5JOIYhml
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[03-Jun-20 02:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So that's where people are getting all of the bricks.


[03-Jun-20 02:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728 (pinned)
>The riot just happened after Epic made GTAV free
>Epic is controlled by Tencent
>Tencent is controlled by CCP

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[03-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...fuck


[03-Jun-20 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"CHINA!" - 🍊


[03-Jun-20 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That tweet makes sense now.


[03-Jun-20 02:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1266640613908320256?s=20

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I told you guys tonight’s Dallas protest was pre-planned

Organizers were directing people to bricks & where police were 

Some of you called me a lair 

I risked my life for this footage and always go into the front lines

For the doubters here u go 👇🏼

 https://t.co/6DgUFVC...
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[03-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/publishers-sue-internet-archive-over-massive-digital-lending-program/

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Lawsuit over online book lending could bankrupt Internet Archive
Publishers call online library “willful digital piracy on an industrial scale.”
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[03-Jun-20 02:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[03-Jun-20 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🧱


[03-Jun-20 02:43 AM] jlun2#8758
> "Brewster Kahle is what the Russians might call a holy fool—someone who acts without real regard for himself or for worldly things in the service of a higher calling," Grimmelmann said. The Internet Archive "is not a commercial venture," he argued. Grimmelmann believes that Kahle, a 1990s dot-com entrepreneur who has sunk millions of dollars into the Internet Archive, is fundamentally an idealist.
why do we keep having these ppl


[03-Jun-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Livestreamer immediately regets asking protesters to flip over a truck... https://t.co/mVEenNEOtP
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[03-Jun-20 02:47 AM] jlun2#8758
> The Internet Archive doesn't seem that interested in discussing the legal issues here, either. The Open Library has an extensive FAQ on borrowing books, but it doesn't have any questions about the legality of the program. When I emailed the Internet Archive asking about the legal theory behind the program, I got a response that directed me to another FAQ that doesn't directly address the copyright issues raised by the program.
<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/internet-archive-offers-thousands-of-copyrighted-books-for-free-online/>
🤦


[03-Jun-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Here's the other POV (cred. u/LemoniDrop) https://t.co/SDt5UiRz5s
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[03-Jun-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[03-Jun-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
big brain moment


[03-Jun-20 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@prism stryder(intexda) 
> (cred. u/LemoniDrop)

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[03-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JeromeRoos/status/1267909349453807616?s=20

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It's really kicking off in Paris now! https://t.co/GPnWJFYlje
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[03-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For you, the day protests and riots rocked your city was one of the most important days in American history
For the French
It was Tuesday.


[03-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Finally, a use for all those fucking scooters


[03-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Something's got to keep insurance claims adjusters in business


[03-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it weird how focused people are on the "kneeling on the neck" and don't talk about the other two cops kneeling on the guy's back


[03-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those two probably had more to do with his death


[03-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Because nobody could see that in the main video


[03-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I actually didn't even know there was 4 cops until something came out that said that all 4 of them were arrested


[03-Jun-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/dZEkscB

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Police in Kansas City arrest a peaceful protester exercising his first amendment right.
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[03-Jun-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sound


[03-Jun-20 03:16 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[03-Jun-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1267898599226191873

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This TikTok just ended racism https://t.co/eZyEoNvZes
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[03-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@illumnious please delete your tweet


[03-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
where you frame me


[03-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
okay?


[03-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Taking my random out of context comment here to post your thingy on twitter
https://twitter.com/illumnious_/status/1267960690276515846

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@StoopedH here's your wish. Thank me later.
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[03-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't want to be personally involved in twitter political bullshit.


[03-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:notbestpony:


[03-Jun-20 03:31 AM] jlun2#8758
ikr? some people I want to follow on twitter , but their political posts make me go "this would screw me over if they pissed someone dedicated, and doxed like every follower"


[03-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500825-trump-says-he-will-move-republican-convention-out-of-north-carolina

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Trump says he will move Republican convention out of North Carolina
President Trump on Tuesday night signaled he will move the Republican National Convention out of North Carolina after the state and the GOP clashed over potential restrictions due to the coronavirus.
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[03-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When did Trump get that power


[03-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
President basically controls their party


[03-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all up to them really


[03-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who's the RNC chairman these days anyway


[03-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronna_McDaniel

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Ronna McDaniel
Ronna Romney McDaniel (born March 20, 1973) is an American who is Chair of the Republican National Committee (RNC) and former Chair of the Michigan Republican Party. McDaniel is a granddaughter of Michigan Governor and businessman George W. Romney and niece of Senator Mitt Rom...
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[03-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally never heard of


[03-Jun-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I have


[03-Jun-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
because of the Romney relation


[03-Jun-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
>when the guy who said "businesses are people" might be one of the last republicans with any integrity left


[03-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, p.fucked up that _that's_ the guy we're "rooting for" on that team


[03-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chairmen are basically irrelevant in the times of an incumbent president of the party


[03-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Listen, so maybe he's a souless sociopath, but his platform _doesn't_ include mass scale murder and open corruption"


[03-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
TSP, g*mers  gonna riot https://www.ea.com/news/ea-actions-against-racial-injustice

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Our Actions Against Racial Injustice
We are in the midst of a global outcry for change. The pain and anger over the senseless and tragic death of George Floyd at the hands of law enforcement, and so many others before him, is driving some of the largest demonstrations in decades against the systemic racism presen...
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[03-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
EA BAD EA BAD EA BAD EA BAD EA BAD


[03-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm scared my company might try and say something


[03-Jun-20 03:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The train has left the station. If a company has not done anything like this yet then doing it too late just looks like "well everyone else is doing it"


[03-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We've already had to rename some game items that were created 2-3 months ago to make sure people don't think they're a reference to current events


[03-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, "had to", decided to internally because the timing of the update they're in kinda sucks


[03-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] We’re contributing $1 million to organizations dedicated to the fight for racial justice in the U.S. and against discrimination around the world. [...]


[03-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh they're actually doing something


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's see if the next Madden has players take a knee....


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
How many millions does EA make in a week?


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In revenue, more than that


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo is actually doing something


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In profit... probably also more than that


[03-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Double matching donations


[03-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah they could stand to put a bit more in the hat, but from what I was seeing with all these tweets of companies proclaiming solidarity but doing *absolutely fucking nothing*


[03-Jun-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
press X to kneel


[03-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess EA is just the Lawful Evil at this point :shrugpony:


[03-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So... what if MS donates 7bil? Nintendo gonna wipe their accounts to match it?


[03-Jun-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
EA BAD


[03-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1mil's more than I've donated so I can't complain

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[03-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~MS is going to donate surplus refurbished XBox Ones from Gamestop~~

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[03-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
TSP, Nintendo matches employee donations normally


[03-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ah


[03-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They just double it for this apparently


[03-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But also don't allow employees to talk about it


[03-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh if I ran a company a whole lot of my stress would come from random employees loudly tagging themselves as working for the company and being active on social media


[03-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"This guy works as chief engineer at DopeTec and his likes are 90% toe-sucking fetish and hot takes about the Khmer Rouge"

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[03-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So many things can go wrong


[03-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/VeraMBergen/status/1267966120662896642

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Remarkable photo via @MarthaRaddatz, where protestors are being blocked from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial
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[03-Jun-20 03:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
imagine if derpi was a popular company and all the mods were out on social media :lyrasweating:


[03-Jun-20 03:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony then they forget to logout to personal acc when reblogging porn

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[03-Jun-20 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking army of white nationalists


[03-Jun-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
that's small fry


[03-Jun-20 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
or some german related pic


[03-Jun-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
ain't nobody got a problem with the big guy in the chair.


[03-Jun-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[03-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Fucking hell


[03-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
cop brain


[03-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh god


[03-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-trudeau-pauses-for-more-than-20-seconds-when-asked-about-trump-u-s-protests-84244037788

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WATCH: Trudeau pauses for more than 20 seconds when asked about Tru...
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was at a loss for words when he was asked to respond to President Donald Trump's handling of U.S. protests for George Floyd, pausing for more than 20 seconds before giving an answer.
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[03-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That is comical


[03-Jun-20 04:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Playing safe. Scared of a Canadian riot. Especially after him in blackface.


[03-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Canada has it's own riots going on cause the Wet'suwet'en tribe are fighting an oil pipeline through their territory


[03-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao, had forgot about the blackface


[03-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Canada just like 3 mining companies with an army


[03-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, Canada making big speeches about racism would be pretty hypocritical


[03-Jun-20 04:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/spiderman-scales-manhattan-bridge-as-nypd-corner-protesters-on-the-structure-report/

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Spiderman scales Manhattan Bridge — as NYPD corner protesters on th...
Protesters on the Manhattan Bridge in New York City were greeted by a fascinating sight as a person wearing a Spiderman costume climbed the structure. Tense situation in Manhattan – we’re at the Manhattan bridge where it crosses into Brooklyn. Police are blocking protesters fr...
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[03-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This timeline is getting really weird
https://twitter.com/LoganPaul/status/1267631648910139392

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[03-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(yes, from you in the hell thread)


[03-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saw this posted and someone said "Of course the guy married to Isabelle wants us to talk to our public officials"

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[03-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@Itsthinking I heard it's an old policy Nintendo has for both it's employee's privacy, and because they actually don't want the PR for it, like they don't want to seem like they're only doing it to look good


[03-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I think they discussed this in an investors meeting


[03-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo had awful corporate responsibility policies until recently


[03-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, they went over how they are changing a bit


[03-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not completely shutting out environmental groups etc


[03-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
where people had to ask them to find out that they donated to Haiti relief after the earthquake


[03-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Last year they were at a Pride march


[03-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think that was really official


[03-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo let them use the name/logo/tagline but didn't sponsor it


[03-Jun-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/djedgeofficial/status/1267926621605916672?s=20

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https://twitter.com/djedgeofficial/status/1267926621605916672?s=20
WHOEVER THE FUCK THIS IS, YOU DROPPED THIS KING 👑 https://t.co/Q4nXnPx4GA
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[03-Jun-20 04:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
L I T


[03-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This sounds like a Family Guy episode


[03-Jun-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/8EfTh7L.jpg
https://www.crosstimbersgazette.com/2020/06/02/flyers-threaten-looting-in-highland-village/

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Update: Local police investigating flyers threatening looting - Cro...
Local police departments are investigating some unverified anonymous flyers that suggest protestors will loot local stores unless they receive support for their cause. Some residents in the area doubt the flyers’ legitimacy. Highland Village and Flower Mound police said they a...
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[03-Jun-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not threatening


[03-Jun-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
at all


[03-Jun-20 04:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jun-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-adviser-resigns-after-trump-photo-op-at-church-2020-6

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[03-Jun-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Chronoexpert39/status/1267668435884036096?s=19

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[03-Jun-20 04:52 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://www.nbcnews.com/video/watch-trudeau-pauses-for-more-than-20-seconds-when-asked-about-trump-u-s-protests-84244037788
@Teaspoon  

What the hell? Trudeau went from a Ken-like model to a Charles Manson cosplayer

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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was at a loss for words when he was asked to respond to President Donald Trump's handling of U.S. protests for George Floyd, pausing for more than 20 seconds before giving an answer.
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[03-Jun-20 04:53 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
No way that’s how he currently looks


[03-Jun-20 04:54 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
He looks very different from last time I saw him

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[03-Jun-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/stevesilberman/status/1267865491525128192?s=20

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This tweet has aged horribly well. https://t.co/4BDD3czrX9
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[03-Jun-20 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
More Tencent money *let's gooooo*


[03-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The company that makes VBS, the US Army training tool that contains all their tactics and hardware specs, just got bought by a CCP-owned company


[03-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For some context, ARMA is a side-project that uses some of the tech of VBS


[03-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is Bohemia's main product


[03-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
VBS's demo scenario is _a military invasion of San Francisco_ with fully accurate mapping and force projections


[03-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...oh


[03-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://bisimulations.com/products/vbs4

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[03-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's kinda like the CCP buying the printing company the US uses to print all their maps and tank and plane schematics


[03-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Taking advantage of the US being distracted by itself. :bigbrain:


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:ts_cry:


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Bohemia interactive isn't even a US company I don't think.


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, it's Czech.


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
But they do work really close with army


[03-Jun-20 05:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
And do some intense land surveying for their mapping, as well as satellite imagery.


[03-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised the US hadn't bought them out already


[03-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But, :america:


[03-Jun-20 05:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
One of their employees was actually arrested in Turkey when they thought he was a spy scouting out an island for geographical inspiration for the last ARMA game


[03-Jun-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Not to mention their vast anti-communist activities. https://youtu.be/API2X_7NgTc

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[03-Jun-20 05:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though for every MK Ultra program there's a dozen idiotic money dumps.


[03-Jun-20 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But those also end up building MK Ultra.


[03-Jun-20 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like the time the CIA tried to rig cats to eavesdrop Russians for them.


[03-Jun-20 05:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But they concluded they could not "train cats" even after they got working radio gear in them.


[03-Jun-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/02/australia-raises-concern-assault-news-team-washington-dc-protest

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Video footage shows correspondent and cameraman being struck with a shield by riot police on live TV during protest outside the White House
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[03-Jun-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jun-20 05:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their first test cat ran off and they re-captured it, removed the equipment, and adopted it off to someone. The second cat was run over by a taxi minutes after being released on some Soviet personnel in a part in DC.


[03-Jun-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1268013341773041667

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I've seen enough. Rep. Steve King (R) has been defeated in #IA04.
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[03-Jun-20 05:33 AM] jlun2#8758
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 ikr? I know about the barber memes regarding lockdown, but do north americans seriously not shave their beard themselves?


[03-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
>shaving


[03-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm going for wizard aesthetic


[03-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Real men wait until it's long enough and then pult it out in fistfulls


[03-Jun-20 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here "barber" generally means "hairdresser" although yes, some communities treat the barbershop as a place to commune and get a shave


[03-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And donate to hair loss charities


[03-Jun-20 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The people demanding a reopening of hair salons are generally not in that community


[03-Jun-20 05:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're just karens


[03-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/dumbandawful/status/1267932989603938305

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the media will let police say absolutely anything
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[03-Jun-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So the cops looked in the store, saw smashed, empty cases, and assumed the contents had been stolen?


[03-Jun-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And blamed "looters," by which they very implicitly meant protesters?


[03-Jun-20 05:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*you don't say*


[03-Jun-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(Also, I guarantee you that such a high-value store would be intimately known to police, who almost assuredly know that the display cases are emptied at night)


[03-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Less cynically, press may have just asked the first random cop near the scene who just guesstimated "$700 per watch, 15 watches per display..." etc


[03-Jun-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
can I press X to doubt


[03-Jun-20 05:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/23rdButterfly/status/1267986452471787523

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suck my dick and choke on it” 😭😭 https://t.co/XLO6RenbY5
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[03-Jun-20 05:45 AM] illumnious#7938
I was supposed to share this last year right after the hurricane but...


[03-Jun-20 05:46 AM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Bahamas Bad


[03-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:downvote:


[03-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Bad peopel come from Bahamas


[03-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Seriously though, that's such childish wording coming from him.


[03-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I saw lots of cute horses when I was in the Bahamas


[03-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Raptorshy I am sure you did :smugcaddy:

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[03-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They really wanted to go in the water


[03-Jun-20 05:52 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> @NaturalNat🇯🇵 ikr? I know about the barber memes regarding lockdown, but do north americans seriously not shave their beard themselves?
@jlun2  

I think he did trying to look more serious and older


[03-Jun-20 05:52 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Sime north Americans especially from Southern US, associate full beard as symbol of manliness


[03-Jun-20 05:53 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
And some places like big cities with Hipsters


[03-Jun-20 05:54 AM] jlun2#8758
I shave because it itches like hell. not worth constant itching. but  maybe just me


[03-Jun-20 05:54 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I shave because it’s a sign of getting old


[03-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://youtu.be/pMQ0oDxbQPs

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[03-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
also, tiddies


[03-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lunalick:


[03-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
tldw; crazy white woman tries to run over some cops and then punches one before getting subdued, crowd instantly gathers around officers.


[03-Jun-20 06:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>Gay Street


[03-Jun-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Apparently it's not a straight street


[03-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:nut:


[03-Jun-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267885675338219520

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My Admin has done more for the Black Community than any President since Abraham Lincoln. Passed Opportunity Zones with @SenatorTimScott, guaranteed funding for HBCU’s, School Choice, passed Criminal Justice Reform, lowest Black unemployment, poverty, and crime rates in histor...
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[03-Jun-20 06:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Daily task: 
Self-praising (√)


[03-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
big brain meme


[03-Jun-20 06:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1267979352072949761

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Black Lives Matter (@davidhogg111)
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It's been 24 hours and I still have yet to see any NRA member standing up to this military occupation they always say they need guns for.
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[03-Jun-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. NRA members are 90% white men


[03-Jun-20 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
99%


[03-Jun-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
there are real stats available:


[03-Jun-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
> In 2015, 71% of members were white and 65% were male. More came from Texas than any other state. Only 7 percent of eligible members vote. Most board nominations are vetted by an appointed nine-member Nominating Committee.


[03-Jun-20 06:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[03-Jun-20 06:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This name sounds like a Chinese


[03-Jun-20 06:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who is he?


[03-Jun-20 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
some guy LA has a lot of asian communities


[03-Jun-20 06:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I went with a friend to the Japanese internment camp monument to find his grandpa's name


[03-Jun-20 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[03-Jun-20 07:42 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Ah yes the concentration vamp for Japanese folks durign WWII IN USA


[03-Jun-20 07:42 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
*camp


[03-Jun-20 07:42 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
George Takei lived in One of those as he says on TED Talk


[03-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The Japanese guy who was the head of team developing biological warfare weaponry and was literally eviscerating human subjects alive with no narcosis was spared though.


[03-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am speaking of this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shir%C5%8D_Ishii

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[03-Jun-20 07:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
are the riots still going


[03-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Surgeon General Shirō Ishii (石井 四郎, Ishii Shirō, [iɕiː ɕiɾoː]; June 25, 1892 – October 9, 1959) was a Japanese microbiologist, army medical officer and a war criminal who was granted immunity by the USA after serving as the director of Unit 731, a biological warfare unit of the Imperial Japanese Army.


[03-Jun-20 08:55 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Boku no Hero made a mistake of naming one of the scientist after this monster


[03-Jun-20 08:56 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
China even so by banning everything Boku no Hero related


[03-Jun-20 10:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I think I saw some horror games based on what they were doing.
Also, I am sorry, just something I recalled when ww2 camps for Japanese were mentioned.
Didn't mean to accuse anyone.


[03-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/02/us/elections/results-iowa-house-district-4-primary-election.html

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Iowa Primary Election Results: Fourth Congressional District
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[03-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Steve King lost, but 36% of GOP voters still opted for the klan


[03-Jun-20 11:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[03-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
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Let’s talk about the police..
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[03-Jun-20 01:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
All of our medias are focusing on the riots and Trump's Tweets


[03-Jun-20 01:58 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't understand what he means by "lowlifes"


[03-Jun-20 02:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Google translate says it's a biological noun


[03-Jun-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lowlife: people or activities characterized as being disreputable and often criminal.


[03-Jun-20 02:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh...


[03-Jun-20 02:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sounds like a bad word


[03-Jun-20 02:06 PM] Lucky424#1730
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[03-Jun-20 02:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you gas the priests like a Christian


[03-Jun-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/cpd-explains-use-of-tape-on-bicycle-officer-uniforms-at-columbus-protests/

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[03-Jun-20 02:18 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://imgur.com/gallery/ns3yRuA
@Crow  

Welcome to Rio and São Paulo, this always happen when you’re riding a motorcycle my friend. Always

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[03-Jun-20 02:20 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://youtu.be/CB3klak0zNQ?t=66

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[03-Jun-20 02:20 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
One example here


[03-Jun-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/500790-mcconnell-blocks-resolution-condemning-trump-over-treatment-of-protesters

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[03-Jun-20 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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You got it wrong! If the protesters were so peaceful, why did they light the Church on fire the night before? People liked my walk to this historic place of worship! Sen. Susan Collins, Sen. James Lankford, Sen. Ben Sasse. Please read @MZHemingway below. https://t.co/PbVaUcKm...
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[03-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly he can't be _this_ stupid, can he?


[03-Jun-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/nicoagrant/status/1268020841054269440?s=21

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https://twitter.com/nicoagrant/status/1268020841054269440?s=21
Zoom’s CEO says he won’t encrypt free calls so Zoom can work more with law enforcement:

“Free users for sure we don’t want to give that because we also want to work together with FBI, with local law enforcement in case some people use Zoom for a bad purpose,” Yuan said. $ZM
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[03-Jun-20 02:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1268009820172541952

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Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan)
https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1268009820172541952
@realDonaldTrump @MZHemingway You used the military to push out peaceful protesters, shooting teargas and using rubber bullets on them so you could have a photo op in front of a church you don’t attend, holding a Bible you don’t read.

It was disgusting, you unrepentant, raci...
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[03-Jun-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/TotalToughScene/status/1268007274305511424?s=19

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Barry 🇺🇸 (@TotalToughScene)
https://twitter.com/TotalToughScene/status/1268007274305511424?s=19
@realDonaldTrump @MZHemingway if Trump is as racist as the left says he is, explain this picture of him shaking hands with baseball legend Jackie Robinson.

#Checkmate
#Owned
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[03-Jun-20 03:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
look at that tiny hand.


[03-Jun-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If Trump is *manhandling* women without consent, then why does he have dainty princess hands? Checkmate liberals!


[03-Jun-20 03:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Small hands perfect for grabbing pussy. small enough to just slip right in there.


[03-Jun-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jun-20 03:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
is this from the photoshoot?


[03-Jun-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think so


[03-Jun-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He looks so pissed to be there


[03-Jun-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also he;s trying to appeal to evangelicals in the one church evangelicals can;t stand


[03-Jun-20 03:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He probably got shouted at a lot on his way there. his feels were hurt.


[03-Jun-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It looks like a promo image for one of those gang war shows


[03-Jun-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EDtys1sIq0

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Oblivion NPC Dialogue
Biden being an NPC
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[03-Jun-20 03:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1268161068163043333?s=21

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Daddy changed the world” - Gianna Floyd 
#BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/SxYz3vrOKD
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[03-Jun-20 03:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.thepitchkc.com/seminar-on-training-police-to-kill-without-hesitation-coming-to-kansas-city-this-december

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Adam Carey
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Seminar on training police to kill without hesitation coming to Kan...
Photo by Joe Carey UPDATE: It appears that the remaining 2020 “BulletProof” seminars have been canceled, or at least removed from the Calibre website. David Grossman, the retired lieutenant turned motivational speaker that specializes in training police officers to kill with l...
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[03-Jun-20 03:40 PM] illumnious#7938
'What is this, a banana republic?': Pelosi unloads on Trump over gassing of protesters outside White House https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/what-banana-republic-pelosi-unloads-trump-over-gassing-protesters-outside-n1223346

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'What is this, a banana republic?': Pelosi unloads on Trump over ga...
Pelosi said that her daughter Alexandra, a filmmaker and journalist, was at the scene outside the White House Monday night.
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[03-Jun-20 03:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/anonymous-hacks-into-government-database-after-forgetting-own-password/

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Anonymous Hacks Into Government Database After Forgetting Own Password
The hacker collective known as Anonymous has hacked into a government database in order to retrieve the passwords to their own social media accounts.
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[03-Jun-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/earn-it-bill-governments-not-so-secret-plan-scan-every-message-online

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The EARN IT Bill Is the Government’s Plan to Scan Every Message Onl...
Imagine an Internet where the law required every message sent to be read by government-approved scanning software. Companies that handle such messages wouldn’t be allowed to securely encrypt them, or they’d lose legal protections that allow them to operate.Take ActionStop the ...
https://www.eff.org/files/banner_library/eagle-2b.jpg


[03-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(thehardtimes is satire btw)


[03-Jun-20 03:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
EARN IT inclines me to believe I should leave the US. I've been entertaining South America. Flee to Argentina or something.


[03-Jun-20 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Uruguay instead


[03-Jun-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
ur a gay lol

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[03-Jun-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
no u

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no_u (3) lul 

[03-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/06/02/58-of-voters-support-using-military-to-help-police-control-protests-poll-finds/

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58% Of Voters Support Using Military To Help Police Control Protest...
President Donald Trump has said he’ll deploy the U.S. troops to cities that can’t get rioting under control.
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[03-Jun-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/thisishow-libertydieswiththunderousapplause-starwars-prequels-natalie-portman-gif-5840635

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[03-Jun-20 04:26 PM] byte[]#2610
42% of voters enjoy the taste of boots, 16% of voters are unaware that using the military to "control" citizens is illegal


[03-Jun-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
"But the poll showed a large chunk of voters usually associated with the Democratic Party also are open to deploying troops, with 43% of voters under 34, 40% of self-identified “liberals” and 37% of African-Americans saying they’d support sending in the military to help police. "


[03-Jun-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
"However, that didn’t translate to overall support for Trump in the poll, which showed 45% saying they are more likely to vote for Biden and 31% for Trump based on George Floyd’s death and the subsequent protests. "


[03-Jun-20 04:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/esper-insurrection-act-protests/index.html

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Esper breaks with Trump to oppose using active duty troops to quell...
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said Wednesday that he does not support using active duty troops to quell the large-scale protests across the United States triggered by the death of George Floyd and those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort, d...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200107142255-mark-esper-pentagon-briefing-super-tease.jpg


[03-Jun-20 04:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/gvhgvd/whats_the_difference_between_a_police_officer_and/

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r/Jokes - What’s the difference between a police officer and a bull...
65,817 votes and 1,525 comments so far on Reddit


[03-Jun-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/gvrpau/the_president_of_the_us_is_threatening_to_send

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r/Jokes - The president of the US is threatening to send the milita...
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[03-Jun-20 05:02 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/earn-it-bill-governments-not-so-secret-plan-scan-every-message-online
@prism stryder(intexda)  the hacker will see about that

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The EARN IT Bill Is the Government’s Plan to Scan Every Message Onl...
Imagine an Internet where the law required every message sent to be read by government-approved scanning software. Companies that handle such messages wouldn’t be allowed to securely encrypt them, or they’d lose legal protections that allow them to operate.Take ActionStop the ...
https://www.eff.org/files/banner_library/eagle-2b.jpg


[03-Jun-20 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

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hackerman
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[03-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
anonymous irl


[03-Jun-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/n6ar1sco6o251.jpg

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[03-Jun-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/06/united-states-deploys-troops-to-politically-unstable-nation-of-the-united-states/

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Rob Ito
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2020/06/united-states-deploys-troops-to-politically-unstable-nation-of-the-united-states/
United States deploys troops to politically unstable nation of the ...
WASHINGTON, DC- The United States government announced today that it will send active duty troops to the chaos plagued country of the United States to help quell the growing civic unrest.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/us-troops.jpeg


[03-Jun-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
kek


[03-Jun-20 05:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/guqtflh8sm251

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Portland protestors successfully deploy Hong Kong tactics
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/Wanakilo • 95,103 points and 2,962 comments
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[03-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Jun-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
But TSP this is definitive proof that GOP and Dems are the same!


[03-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's proof they're both morons


[03-Jun-20 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One is just utter asshole moron, the other thinks it's still 1960


[03-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/ns3yRuA

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Let’s talk about the police..
https://i.imgur.com/Snr2LvBh.jpg


[03-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
or, in this case, tear gas in their eyes


[03-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
how are so many cops such chublords


[03-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, not "fat over muscle" but pure pudge all around


[03-Jun-20 05:53 PM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Jun-20 05:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd think departments would at least try to keep them in shape


[03-Jun-20 05:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.twitch.tv/woke/clip/BrainyTenderShrimpBlargNaut

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WOKE - Lets gas a moving vehicle too.
Watch WOKE's clip titled "Lets gas a moving vehicle too."
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[03-Jun-20 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
bruh wtf


[03-Jun-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
if you get gassed in your car, fucking turn it off and get the hell out


[03-Jun-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s episode of welcome to Florida: you know what, fuck it https://www.cagesideseats.com/2020/6/2/21278398/hulk-hogan-banned-from-all-aew-shows-tony-khan-responds-linda-racist-tweet

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Hulk Hogan’s banned from all AEW shows
We learned that in the course of Tony Khan banning his ex Linda for a racist tweet.
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[03-Jun-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Jun-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
not everyone is versed in "keep calm and stay rational"


[03-Jun-20 05:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Things are going to get progressively worse re. cops in current protests, if they've been pulling 12h+ shifts they're going to be stupid and angry (more than usual, anyway)


[03-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Crow#5457
especially when their eyes feel like they're melting out of their skull


[03-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Crow#5457
they're using violence on nonviolent protesters


[03-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Crow#5457
the police are escalating, and unlike normal, the people are responding to that escalation with their own


[03-Jun-20 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
there's a reason why police are supposed to be trained to contain violent protests until they peter out


[03-Jun-20 06:00 PM] Crow#5457
instead, it seems like they're just adding fuel to the fire on purpose


[03-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ifyouwereafo/status/1266123034156556288

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Afo ❼ (@ifyouwereafo)
https://twitter.com/ifyouwereafo/status/1266123034156556288
Video of the day. ✊🏿 https://t.co/MbnkpirA5a
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[03-Jun-20 06:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Period


[03-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yeah thats aint right logic dude


[03-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cops kill whites too


[03-Jun-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
I think you missed the point


[03-Jun-20 06:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't see the video... My phone number is locked by Twitter


[03-Jun-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1266122877415407616/pu/vid/592x1280/T3q9soLeYZUd9Gr5.mp4

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[03-Jun-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
That audio desync is painful


[03-Jun-20 06:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I need to sign up another Twitter account with my mom's phone number


[03-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1268205482432499713

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https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1268205482432499713
It wasn’t the Russians who withheld information from the court about general Flynn that they were setting him up and out to get him. It was the department of justice, it was the F.B.I., it was people who hated Trump.”

@LindseyGrahamSC is on 🔥 today!

About time! https://t.c...
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[03-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
apparently graham's blowing a lotta hot air he personally sucked from trump's asshole


[03-Jun-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/06/police-use-contact-tracing-and-big-tech-to-identify-protesters.html

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Activist Post
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Police Use Contact Tracing And Big Tech To Identify Protesters - Ac...
It appears that 100 human rights groups were right; law enforcement can and will use contact tracing to identify protesters.
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[03-Jun-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
？


[03-Jun-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why is discord showing me "you're being rate limited"


[03-Jun-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's anti fun and doesn't let you click all of the reactions at once


[03-Jun-20 06:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Things are going to get progressively worse re. cops in current protests, if they've been pulling 12h+ shifts they're going to be stupid and angry (more than usual, anyway)
@Teaspoon 

We're entering into a positive feedback loop anyhow. The bullshit cops pull inspire more angry protests which naturally spooks them and they do the same which creates escalation. It will either end with both sides burning out their energy and relenting or the state intervening with all of its force and paving the streets with bones.


[03-Jun-20 06:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/AngelaMWilhelm/status/1268056986102444033

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Angie Wilhelm (@AngelaMWilhelm)
https://twitter.com/AngelaMWilhelm/status/1268056986102444033
Asheville Police surround a medic station created by protesters as they stab water bottles with knives and tip over tables of medical supplies and food June 2, 2020. The medic team, made of EMTs and doctors, said the medical station was approved by the city. #avlnews
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[03-Jun-20 06:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
Protestors protest anticipating further cop violence. Cops respond of course with additional violence and annihilate


[03-Jun-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TallPaul612/status/1268049839335538688

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Tall Paul (@TallPaul612)
https://twitter.com/TallPaul612/status/1268049839335538688
Why are people scared of the riots and looting? 

The flu kills way more people every year.
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[03-Jun-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
_O O F_


[03-Jun-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-police-nice-suspects/story?id=48914504

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Trump to police: 'Please don't be too nice' to suspects
He made the comments during a speech to law enforcement officers today.
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[03-Jun-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
2017


[03-Jun-20 07:05 PM] Honahue#0656
I like that America can do warcrimes to it's own citizens with cops and some people cheer it on


[03-Jun-20 07:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[03-Jun-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
luftwaffle house


[03-Jun-20 07:23 PM] jlun2#8758
> Recently, 100 human rights groups warned that an Apple/Google contact tracing app could be used as a cover to identify activists and minorities.
who are the people who used those apps? am curious


[03-Jun-20 07:23 PM] jlun2#8758
also unsurprisinly betrayed by big tech


[03-Jun-20 07:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is a 50/50 situation imo.
When fbi asked to install backdoors, apple refused, iirc.


[03-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/197085221508743168/717660612095901738/1591172429540.png

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[03-Jun-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
or it's just a deterrent


[03-Jun-20 07:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-03/kerbal-space-program-2-release-disrupted-by-corporate-strife

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Game Publisher Cancels Contract With Developer, Then Tries to Poach...
Three months after losing a deal with Take-Two, Star Theory Games was out of business.
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[03-Jun-20 07:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Your monthly limit of free content is about to expire. Stay on top of historic market volatility. Try 3 months for ~~$105~~ $6. Cancel anytime.


[03-Jun-20 07:40 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Thanks Bloomberg


[03-Jun-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc11.com/amp/george-floyd-protest-fayetteville-police/6226057

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Fayetteville police officers kneel in solidarity with George Floyd ...
Fayetteville police officers knelt in solidarity with demonstrators on Murchison Road during Monday's protest.
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[03-Jun-20 07:41 PM] Marukomuru#8409
They're just doing preminimary stretches so they can body the peaceful protestors


[03-Jun-20 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus, that KSP story


[03-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We still have ksp 1 at home


[03-Jun-20 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/qppxq1I.mp4

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[03-Jun-20 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a horrific crop


[03-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
vertical video gang

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[03-Jun-20 07:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is hard to hold the phone horisontally


[03-Jun-20 07:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Everyday it gets harder and harder to not jump on the ACAB bandwagon


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I don't like sweeping generalizations but *holy fuck* can I make an exception here?


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
At this point? No tears for cops.


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maru, there's an important distinction.


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Random people are not expected to be trained.


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cops are.


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
When cops mess up, they are as an organization responsible.


[03-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They literally failed to do their job.


[03-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
If an entire profession regularly fails in ways that kill people.


[03-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are welcome to say the profession is bad and must go.


[03-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
*No tears for cops*.


[03-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It seems they are just trigger happy. Who will be prosecuted? No one.


[03-Jun-20 07:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
blame us laws for that


[03-Jun-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prosecutors are cops.


[03-Jun-20 07:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why did they put that law in 1967?


[03-Jun-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody watches the watchers.


[03-Jun-20 07:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only unions with any power left in the US are police unions


[03-Jun-20 08:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The U.S. Supreme Court first introduced the qualified immunity doctrine in 1967, originally with the rationale of protecting law enforcement officials from frivolous lawsuits and financial liability in cases where they acted in good faith in an unclear legal situation.[4][5] Starting in around 2005, courts increasingly applied the doctrine to cases involving the use of excessive or deadly force, leading to widespread criticism that it "has become a nearly failsafe tool to let police brutality go unpunished and deny victims their constitutional rights" (as summarized in a 2020 Reuters report)


[03-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
"frivolous lawsuits and financial liability"


[03-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they mean is blakk people trying to get compensation for being murdered.


[03-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
"good faith" -> "racism"

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[03-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is one of the most retarded things the court has ever done.


[03-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
NOBODY should be immune from lawsuits.


[03-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not a cops fault than people of color commit more crimes than white


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought "good faith" only works for small communities


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the problem


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlow_v._Fitzgerald this was the first application of qualified immunity

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Harlow v. Fitzgerald
Harlow v. Fitzgerald, 457 U.S. 800 (1982), was a case decided by the United States Supreme Court involving the doctrines of qualified immunity and absolute immunity.


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The cops treat blakk crimes WORSE than white crimes


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And will apply much deadlier force to them.


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
and probably will forever :sad:


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then qualified immunity says that the cop isn't legally liable.


[03-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/04/04/disparity-ideology-coronavirus-and-danger-return-racial-medicine

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Why "race" is less useful—both empirically and politically—than ever as a proxy for the social conditions of poverty, lack of healthcare, and mass inequality... In the past few days, liberal Democrats Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, and Rep.
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/views-article/thumbs/coronavirus_racial_medicine.jpg


[03-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
A blakk kid robs a store and gets 5 years in jail


[03-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
a white guy rapes teenagers and gets a year in jail


[03-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545 (pinned)
Read past the first https://imgur.com/gallery/ns3yRuA

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Let’s talk about the police..
https://i.imgur.com/Snr2LvBh.jpg


[03-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the way


[03-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This was already posted for 3rd time


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
when the police went on strike in NYC


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
IT WILL BE POSTED UNTIL PEOPLE GET THIS THRU THEIR THIKK SKULLS.


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
If I hav to post it every single hour, that will happen.


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ok, we get it. Next what?


[03-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sikk and fukking tired of people trying to distract from the issue.


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
When the police went on strike in NYC, crime went down according to civilian reports.


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
**Crime went down**


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, the police presence is MAKING MORE CRIME


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because no one logs it


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about that for a second.


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, no you don't get it


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Other people logging it


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
were showing a decrease


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Honahue#0656
the NYPD didn't stop all policing they only investigated violent crimes and stopped doing minor infractions


[03-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the police's figures


[03-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
so basically became like firefighters


[03-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Honahue#0656
and crime went down


[03-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NYPD's constant presence is disruptive to society.


[03-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think someone is going to do when they're always nervous about being shot?


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: They aren't going to become a model citizen, or even do most things fairly correctly like normal.


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're going to fukk up


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
repeatedly.


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then get arrested


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
which puts them out of a job


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
which then makes them more likely to commit future crimes because they need money to survive.


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Moral of the story:dont fuck up


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't go "but the blakk man commit crime" AS YOU STRIP AWAY ALL OF HIS INCOME


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Be a decent human being

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[03-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I think the people you're talking to live in an alternate universe


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] jlun2#8758
prob well off and not blcak


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] jlun2#8758
so hard for them to understand


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
I am not having this bullshit where you see people fukking murdered and abused and you go "well it's their own fault for not being completely model citizens while under direct threat"


[03-Jun-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being that dense


[03-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sauces?


[03-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
For what?


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] jlun2#8758
I always thought certain people live in different parallel universes even if they're next to me; they seem to experience completely diff things even when I actually go & try experiencing it


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
For your rant


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie NYPD crime rate


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit hard to be a model citizen when police move the goal posts and then pretend like you're in the wrong when you get your life blown to hell by them


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-017-0211-5

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Evidence that curtailing proactive policing can reduce major crime
Using the 2014 New York Police Department slowdown as a natural experiment, the authors show that civilian complaints of major crime decreased during and after reductions in proactive policing, which challenges existing research on the topic.
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41562-017-0211-5/MediaObjects/41562_2017_211_Fig1_HTML.jpg


[03-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html

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In New York, major crime complaints fell when cops took a break fro...
When New York police officers temporarily reduced their “proactive policing” efforts on low-level offenses, major-crime reports in the city actually fell, according to a study based on New York Police Department crime statistics.
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[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
> 2014
so basically ppl learned nothing


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they learned.


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
forever


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't want crime to go down.


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If crime actually goes down, blakk people can't be said to be evil.


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
That ruins conservatives getting elected.


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
♾️ amount of conservatives


[03-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing is set up as a feedbakk loop.


[03-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
You treat blakk people like garbage, so garbage they become, then you say you'll take out the trash.


[03-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So then you treat them like garbage.


[03-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
On and on.


[03-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Honahue#0656
my state passed a resolution in 2018 to allow anyone to vote absentee by mail for no reason they just sent out the letters for requesting the ballots I suspect there will be far fewer repubs coming out of my state


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like the riots rn


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What a man in the street can do?


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] jlun2#8758
sounds unfixable in my life time @Nebbie


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Honahue#0656
organize


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop thinking everything is unfixable gdi.


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are ways to break cycles.


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Honahue#0656
read something besides high school text books


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah. This.

I sorta felt same way about moderation in the internet.

When moderators are anal as fuck about following rules, I got banned in less than 3 months only because mods kept escalating my every fuckup and basically made everyone believe my fuckups are malicious.


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Honahue#0656
or Fox News ghost written propaganda


[03-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that's fairly common.


[03-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you target someone, they mess up easier, and are painted as bad for the future.


[03-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
It prejudices all future interactions.


[03-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they do act completely correctly, and nobody else sees them as bad, the ones targeting will see what they look for.


[03-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like how you can see a giraffe in a cloud.


[03-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Honahue#0656
that's the MLK thing moderate whites are not black people's friends cause all they want is peace and tranquility and they will betray the civil rights movements for a return to normalicy, at least the KKK will make their positions clear


[03-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Human pattern recognition isn't designed to avoid false positives.


[03-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
So by these various effects combined, negative stereotypes *become* real by being focused on.


[03-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to also consider is "then let me be evil"


[03-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if someone is painted as evil, and no attempt to disprove it can be allowed to work, it's no longer in their best interests to act good.


[03-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their best interests lie in acting exactly as evil as expected, because such acts often come with self benefit.


[03-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the police will arrest you either way, why not loot?


[03-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Honahue#0656
this goes all the way back to Confucious too


[03-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/angelamwilhelm/status/1268056986102444033

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Asheville Police surround a medic station created by protesters as they stab water bottles with knives and tip over tables of medical supplies and food June 2, 2020. The medic team, made of EMTs and doctors, said the medical station was approved by the city. #avlnews
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[03-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Honahue#0656
this isn't new even people from 2000 years ago saw this pattern


[03-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, bottled water. A huge threat. Could be used by evil waterbenders, after all.


[03-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Honahue#0656
rewarding good behaviour works way better at getting the results you want than punishing bad behaviour


[03-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Honahue#0656
at least with people


[03-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are other reasons for that too, byte's talked about it.


[03-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
One inherent problem is punishment only rejects one behavior, it doesn't select the right one.


[03-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Punishment also tends to make animals less likely to take any behavior, out of fear.


[03-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, when you heavily train a dog with punishment, they become stressed-out messes that don't act normal and may struggle to learn more things.


[03-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They look like they just want to sabotage supply lines in attempt to exhaust them, but looks ugly and savage either way.


[03-Jun-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sabotaging the supply lines of protestors that the city fukking approved is not okay.


[03-Jun-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the cops want war with the populace, they should be shot on sight.


[03-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah. It looks like a small war.


[03-Jun-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
one of the biggest problems with punishment in operant conditioning is that the assessment of whether a treatment is a punishment or a reward is _entirely up to the subject_


[03-Jun-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
if you spank them, and they _like it_, then it's a reward


[03-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is humans often enjoy punishment from what they consider to be their enemy.


[03-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav a tendency to become martyrs.


[03-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why protestors dislike it when their old arrest records get cleared cause the thing they protested was deemed unjust etc.


[03-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those arrest records to them are a badge of honor.


[03-Jun-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Btw, they're probably destroying the water bottles because they "could be" used to extinguish tear gas grenades


[03-Jun-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
literal cop brain mentality


[03-Jun-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/7x2zitdwso251

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GOP senators comment on Trump gassing protestors for a church photo op
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/MisterT12 • 1,869 points and 213 comments
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[03-Jun-20 08:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/Meneth_/status/1268168980063289346?s=20

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https://twitter.com/Meneth_/status/1268168980063289346?s=20
I'm thrilled to be part of announcing that Paradox Interactive will be signing a collective agreement.

We've been working towards this for a long time now, and it is so great to see it come to pass.

I hope this will inspire organizing at other companies.
https://t.co/pSu9A2...
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[03-Jun-20 08:48 PM] jlun2#8758
from the above tweet, under more tweets for me
<https://twitter.com/ethangach/status/1268215215117742080>
https://kotaku.com/game-companies-say-they-re-supporting-black-lives-matte-1843882888

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Game Companies Say They’re Supporting Black Lives Matter, But Few A...
As protests over the killing of George Floyd by police spread throughout the country last weekend, some of the gaming industry’s biggest companies put out statements in support of the Black Lives Matter movement. But while a few have shared some specifics about what they’re do...
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[03-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, EA gave money :twismug:


[03-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden and Trump tied in TX


[03-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Betting odds on Biden first time in three months


[03-Jun-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/z56j06plUgs

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LegalEagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
If you can, please give to the ACLU and other organizations that defend protestors: https://action.aclu.org/give/now-v1


⚖️⚖️⚖️Interested in LAW SCHOOL?  Get my PRELAW COURSE: 
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[03-Jun-20 09:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/lnwsmospji251

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Man with spine injury is punched repeatedly by cop
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/JeffersonComingHome • 111 points and 61 comments
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[03-Jun-20 09:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/baphometadata/status/1268192247176220679

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M-x GNU Booty (@baphometadata)
https://twitter.com/baphometadata/status/1268192247176220679
I love that multiple police departments just got slammed with a hardcore AWS bill because they all deployed the same poorly written app for snitching on protesters and it got flooded with kpop videos that weren't vetted or stored correctly.

Bad devops is antifa praxis now.
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[03-Jun-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
source pls? searching "police departments amazon web service" doesnt show it


[03-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Lucky424#1730
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/03/3-more-cops-charged-in-george-floyd-death-other-officers-murder-charge-upgraded.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.PostToFacebook&fbclid=IwAR0etexF4LnLxD7OUTt1gfjnSvpY6r-pD6TDi7dWSBdJ8cZ-KamsMILa1fU

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3 more cops charged in George Floyd death, other officer's murder c...
Three former Minneapolis police officers were criminally charged Wednesday in connection with the death of George Floyd in their custody, according to court records.
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[03-Jun-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-inspecting-white-house-bunker-not-hiding-dc-protests-2020-6

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[03-Jun-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
ok bunker baby


[03-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://toybook.com/lego-pulling-back-potentially-sensitive-product-amid-george-floyd-protests/

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[03-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But who hates firefighters


[03-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why get rid of those


[03-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lego's firefighters tend to look a lot like regular police I think.


[03-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they didn't see a need to separate the two a bunch.


[03-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just put the fire trukk in the police station playset to save money and all.


[03-Jun-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1268203291470528512

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[03-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Read it all in Mario's voice.


[03-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Midknight#9798
Now go hard mode: read it in *Link's* voice!


[03-Jun-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TupperwareWW/status/1267577844542181377

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At Tupperware our leadership team and our associates support, elevate and stand behind those in the black community and stand against oppression and injustice.
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[03-Jun-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 10:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thank god tupperware stood up


[03-Jun-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Tupperware is literally a MLM now


[03-Jun-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Come join us at our tupperware protest parties, be apart of the tupperware *family*"


[03-Jun-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/rand-paul-anti-lynching-bill-298571?cid=apn

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Rand Paul demands changes to House's anti-lynching bill
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[03-Jun-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
Rand Paul thinks there is too much anti-lynching in the anti-lynching bill


[03-Jun-20 10:20 PM] green_byte#1188
Holy fuck. The comments


[03-Jun-20 10:20 PM] green_byte#1188
https://twitter.com/pawpatrol/status/1267808607694917633?s=09

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In solidarity of #amplifymelanatedvoices we will be muting our content until June 7th to give access for Black voices to be heard so we can continue to listen and further our learning. #amplifyblackvoices
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[03-Jun-20 10:20 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[03-Jun-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
tf is that tweet


[03-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rand Paul is saying that it's overly punitive by treating non-lynching as lynching.


[03-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of you know, trying to actually define things properly and in general deal with hate crimes.


[03-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He basically wants to make sure hate crimes lead to lighter sentences than robbery.


[03-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
He sees "10 years for beating up a blakk person for being blakk" and he goes "whoa whoa whoa, that's longer than we put away blakk people for minor shoplifting, we can't hav that"


[03-Jun-20 10:31 PM] jlun2#8758
https://twitter.com/WINDuckyQuaCKer/status/1267845992113717248/photo/1
uh

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[03-Jun-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
also on "more tweets" from the post
<https://twitter.com/dylanmarron/status/1268207757968076800>
https://twitter.com/BizarreLazar/status/1267570556880076801

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Experiment Update - Well it finally happened. Took longer than expected. 12 hour suspension and had to delete the offending tweet. Here’s the screenshots @suspendthepres. Will post to the account when suspension is lifted.
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[03-Jun-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
also 
> You shouldn’t have more Black Lives Matter posts than you have Black employees.
> in positions of leadership.
from above as well <https://twitter.com/MatthewACherry/status/1267964455381397504>


[03-Jun-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's 5d chess, if Trump says he's black the cops might piledrive him the next time he goes out


[03-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
:bigbrain:


[03-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[03-Jun-20 10:48 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
What’s with everyone following children’s products on Twitter being the biggest assholes?


[03-Jun-20 10:49 PM] green_byte#1188
*shrugs*


[03-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They wanna indoctrinate children?


[03-Jun-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
@Kiryu-Chan to compensate the fact they're old men liking a kid product


[03-Jun-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
acting like that to feel "manly"


[03-Jun-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
instead of embracing dogo


[03-Jun-20 10:50 PM] green_byte#1188

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[03-Jun-20 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people also demand kids' shows be _perfect_ because children are too stupid to not treat cartoons as the holy bible

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[03-Jun-20 10:51 PM] jlun2#8758
the lore folks :ewstraight:


[03-Jun-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
I think RuneScape wiki always had those ppl arguing about npc dialogue & ppl kept joking about them


[03-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
tbh after seeing so many edgelord teens yelling about racial purity and emperor of humanity, I partially agree to that sentiment


[03-Jun-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
||corrupt the purity||


[03-Jun-20 10:53 PM] green_byte#1188
Can it be 2021 already?


[03-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Kiryu-Chan It's the same as the "keep politics out of my vidya" stuff.


[03-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll never be 2021

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[03-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives HATE IT when liberal questioning of society isn't kept confined.


[03-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want every product to be conservative by default.


[03-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's a special problem with kids stuff, because they know that kids are already the most liberal.


[03-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If liberal stuff reaches kids, then the kids stray from the One True Path.


[03-Jun-20 10:55 PM] jlun2#8758
I hate it when that nazi oc leaps out of 4chan "confinement". hope that doesnt make me conservative


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
No it makes you liberal. Conservatives would say there is no problem with "showing history" etc.


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
They'd then shit all over you if you put your liberal OC out there being trans.


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
From my experience, "confinement" depends on how many people treat it as a "it's just a joke chill"


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how most kids shows deal with trans stuff


[03-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's nothing but a joke, to mokk


[03-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
that way, we all know that's not the One True Path.


[03-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then conservatives are happy.


[03-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
What really riles them up is stuff like King of the Hill, where being trans *isn't* a joke in and of itself.


[03-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
_eyes up Brotherhooves Social with disappointment._


[03-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm glad its not like it was in the 90s and early 2000s, where it was sort of acceptable but people made fun of it and avoided people who were LGBT like the plague


[03-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
As if to remain manly and hetero, you have to stay away from LGBT or you're going to catch the GAY


[03-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, One True Path.


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Even people who disagree with it outright are easier to deal with than that


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Not that


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative worldview is that other things are evil, evil will always exist, and we must stay on the One True Path.


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's unrelated to being conservative in this case


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it's all about keeping people on the path.


[03-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Often by beating them.


[03-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Just societal expectations, whether it's religious/conservative or not


[03-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not using conservative to mean religious, but societal.


[03-Jun-20 11:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It lines up with religious because religion offers a big brother figure to smite those off the path.


[03-Jun-20 11:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I typed in religious and meant conservative, then didn't feel like deleting it :x


[03-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The core conflict is really about whether the rules exist to make people overall happy or whether they exist to keep people close to an idealized form.


[03-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Isn't this synonymous? :P


[03-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The former is what I refer to as liberal, and the latter conservative.


[03-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's funny I was watching some old Jackass, back when they were a TV show and it's weird seeing how much "it's funny because this is gay" humor they had


[03-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It aged so poorly because of that


[03-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Jesus was a liberal, note, Stooped.


[03-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's modern American protestant religion that's highly conservative.


[03-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
(they just happen to be the majority of religion in America, and even moreso in politics)


[03-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Jesus' actual message is considered evil by most religious figures in the US.


[03-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They talk a ton of shit about Jesus but he'd kill them in a heartbeat.


[03-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Power corrupts etc.


[03-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Raptorshy I think I saw some old cartoons trying to pull off a " it is funny because a guy is wearing dress and makeup". I liked it a lot for different reasons :lul:


[03-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, Looney Toons did that a lot


[03-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Brotherhooves Social will be unwatchable in 2030


[03-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to watch *now*.


[03-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I usually give them a pass just because they're older


[03-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Jackass was early 2000s so it didn't even seem that long ago


[03-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Raptorshy#6268
~~also bugs was hot in a dress, don't at me~~


[03-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/ferguson-picks-ella-jones-as-first-african-american-and-first-woman-mayor/article_4fcddeed-9586-571c-b88a-bbcae3c71f70.html

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Ferguson picks Ella Jones as first African American and first woman...
Meanwhile, Berkeley Mayor Ted Hoskins loses his reelection bid while facing felony charges alleging absentee ballot fraud in 2018. And Wildwood Mayor Jim Bowlin and Richmond Heights Mayor Jim Thomson
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[03-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Raptorshy https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQbNYO6WsAAPNj0?format=jpg&name=medium

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[03-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Hah


[03-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's so true


[03-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Raptorshy#6268
His career hit hard and then poofed when skateboarding kinda fell out of fashion


[03-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully saved responsibly


[03-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Not that it still doesn't exist, you just see it so so much less than you used to


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I always loved looking at them vids of smashing their balls on metal poles.


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
At high velocity.


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's still getting royalties and licensing his name out


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I can't disagree with that


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
THPS 1&2 are getting remakes


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Noice


[03-Jun-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/02/16-west-point-cadets-test-positive-covid-19-upon-returning-trumps-commencement-speech.html

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16 West Point Cadets Test Positive for COVID-19 upon Returning for ...
The number is a small fraction of the 850 cadets who have returned to campus since spring break in March.
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[03-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Some of the more recent ones were so awful I wondered if they killed the franchise


[03-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ride and Shred did, yes


[03-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That was it


[03-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And 5, but that is similar to the Fantastic Four movies (until recently IIRC)


[03-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only made to keep the license


[03-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The first Fantastic Four movie wasn't even meant for wide release


[03-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's the best one.


[03-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean the one that was never released.


[03-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ye


[03-Jun-20 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[03-Jun-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And now the new thing is we can't say "picnic" anymore because some racists used the word it once
https://twitter.com/miracleunique_/status/1267719594665361408

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Please stop using the word ‘picnic.’ Use outdoor meal or garden party. Just PLEASE never use that shameful and systemically racist word again. I’m begging you. The history behind it is UGLY.
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[03-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So people are thinking GW Bush may endorse Biden


[03-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people from his administration have formed a pro-Biden super PAC


[03-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh interesting


[03-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GW Bush did not vote in 2016.


[03-Jun-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
didn't trump insult him


[03-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who didn't Trump insult


[03-Jun-20 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-houses-mcenany-compares-trumps-photo-op-to-wwii-and-911-responses-2020-6

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White House press secretary compares Trump's photo-op outside St. J...
To facilitate the photo-op, law enforcement violently dispelled peaceful protesters outside the White House using tear gas and flash-bang grenades.
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[03-Jun-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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The cops are just admitting that the curfew is about criminalizing all dissent. 92% of arrests aren't even for looting or violence but for failure to disperse. This is about justifying mass arrests of dissidents.
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[04-Jun-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Jun-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Article that was from https://ktla.com/news/local-news/sheriff-says-l-a-county-curfew-will-continue-until-protests-are-gone-aclu-says-its-not-constitutional/

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Sheriff says L.A. County curfew will continue until ‘protests are g...
The curfew in place across Los Angeles County amid peaceful demonstrations Tuesday will continue until “protests are gone,” Sheriff Alex Villanueva told KTLA. But the American Civil Lib…
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[04-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Curfew existing solely to end protests...


[04-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/03/asheville-north-carolina-police-seen-destroying-protesters-supplies/3135539001/

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Video shows police destroying medical station at North Carolina pro...
Police officers' aggressive dismantling of a protest medical station in North Carolina has the city's mayor wondering what the department's strategy was.
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[04-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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Rose Garden 6:43 P.M. EDT      THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  My fellow Americans: My first and highest duty as President is to defend our great cou
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[04-Jun-20 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Jun-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Sanders gets it


[04-Jun-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1267894979827040259

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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1267894979827040259
Those in power who want us to focus on looting and property damage instead of the thousands peacefully protesting are trying to distract us from the terrible violence that engulfs the lives of working people every day. As Coretta Scott King reminded us, violence takes many fo...
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[04-Jun-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[04-Jun-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's such a stereotype.


[04-Jun-20 12:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/z56j06plUgs

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LegalEagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
If you can, please give to the ACLU and other organizations that defend protestors: https://action.aclu.org/give/now-v1


⚖️⚖️⚖️Interested in LAW SCHOOL?  Get my PRELAW COURSE: 
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[04-Jun-20 12:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Itsthinking they'd lose subs for supporting lgbt in slav and muslim countries :D


[04-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
More like they'd have the company banned from doing business there


[04-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kek. Forgot about gay propaganda ban.


[04-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501021-virginia-governor-to-announce-removal-of-robert-e-lee-statue-in-richmond

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Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) plans to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from Richmond’s Monument Avenue, the Associated Press reported Wednesday, citing a senior administration official.
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[04-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Put a Grant statue in its place


[04-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put a plaque under it quoting Lee saying NO STATUES OF ME


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-didnt-expect-trump-deploy-more-troops-after-esper-call-2020-6?

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Trump is talking about using tanks to quell the George Floyd protes...
Pentagon officials said Defense Secretary Mark Esper's urgings that states "dominate the battlespace" was more a show of loyalty.
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[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
okay


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
this is epic


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
USA 🤝  PRC


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lee was very adamant post-war that everyone forget the whole affair and act like a damn united country.


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, if Lee and Sherman were resurrected


[04-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd go around destroying statues of Lee


[04-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lee at one point told a woman to cut down a tree because she could see how it got torn by union cannon fire.


[04-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
@ononim Trump about to do a fucking Yeltsin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6P7IckXkaY

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[04-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am once again terribly sorry for Russia' loss.


[04-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
On behalf of Americans


[04-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Who will not think to apologize otherwise.


[04-Jun-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
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[04-Jun-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
@Teaspoon why are u gae


[04-Jun-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
no u

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[04-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FvBtu3gB4

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War Zone
📺 Trump is no longer hiding that he’s a brazen authoritarian, so desiring of control and power that he’s willing to turn our once peaceful cities into #warzones.

#AmericaOrTrump
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[04-Jun-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
>every time I enter a comments section on a politics image


[04-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Zen#4827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTTInZCihO8&feature=youtu.be

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Protests
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Minneapolis, MN Protest
Live, being hosted by "Vic"
(not by "Adam" from the Mankato protest)
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[04-Jun-20 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] lmao, can mods lock comment sections now?
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[04-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[04-Jun-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
we've always been able to


[04-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>silence is complicit


[04-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I bet he also supports the rioting too


[04-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/LouHaigh/status/1268103479496712194

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God, they'll be kicking themselves for not thinking of that sooner https://t.co/evNckxG4tA
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[04-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/insidehousing/status/1268061491141283841

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Inside Housing (@insidehousing)
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Encourage rough sleepers to move in with family and friends, government tells councils https://t.co/lIhVdbf9Mq #ukhousing
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[04-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(rough sleeping is queen's english for homeless)


[04-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Cloudy#3004
why rough sleeping


[04-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
He does know what being homeless means, right


[04-Jun-20 02:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
> I bet he also supports the rioting too
@Marukomuru 

The rioting is a natural bursting forth of a half century's more of anger. There is nothing immoral or moral about it. Merely a thing that happens because it must, as you heat water and it boils. If you don't want rioting, you keep the heat off.


[04-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're entering the twilight zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPJHIDii9v4

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Pat Robertson says "Not Cool" to Trump's Church Photo Op
Trump tear gassed protestors to clear them from a park so he could get a photo op at a church to rally his evangelical supporters. Well, here is a top evangelical clearly showing that plan backfired.
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[04-Jun-20 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Is Trump as satanic as MLP now?


[04-Jun-20 02:28 AM] jlun2#8758
> satanic as MLP now
I want some nun "corrupted" by ponies now

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[04-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
do you know


[04-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
how frustrating it is to argue


[04-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
with a person who says that "until blacks stop killing blacks, I won't listen to you"


[04-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
basically saying that as long as black people are killing black people, it doesn't matter if a few white supremacists kill blacks for racially motivated reasons


[04-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
or a few officers, or a few randos like those dudes that hunted down the black guy and murdered him


[04-Jun-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has to be a troll account


[04-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz...


[04-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's 100% a troll account


[04-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/quinnanimallove

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Quinn Alexander - #TransRights (@quinnanimallove)
23 and loving life and learning • They/Them • Pro-Union • Vegan • Animal Rights • Climate Action • Hobbies:yoga, hiking, reading. Furry
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[04-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
hashtag vegan furries against vore


[04-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[04-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen tbh


[04-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
https://twitter.com/CorbacR/status/1267692789803909120

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https://twitter.com/CorbacR/status/1267692789803909120
Une femme est interpellée dans la rue par un membre de #BlackLivesMatter qui lui demande de se mettre à genoux et de s'excuser d'être blanche. Elle s'exécute. 

Nous vivons vraiment dans une dystopie. https://t.co/PVZtG0RGky
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[04-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Cloudy#3004
tl;dw, some guy tells the girl to get on her knees to show solidarity with the protesters cause she's white and a woman


[04-Jun-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MplsWard3/status/1267891878801915904?s=19

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Politicians who cross the MPD find slowdowns in their wards. After the first time I cut money from the proposed police budget, I had an uptick in calls taking forever to get a response, and MPD officers telling business owners to call their councilman about why it took so lon...
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[04-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Cloudy#3004
MPD?


[04-Jun-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
minneapolis police department


[04-Jun-20 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon 
>Posting as though AntiFa is even an organization.


Man, I can tell you that most people who probably identify as AntiFa are even in the Democratic Party but are outside it now.


[04-Jun-20 03:19 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk so i assume they're non-voters?


[04-Jun-20 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
can we also point out that they keep *capitalizing* it to legitimize it as a proper noun and not a portmanteau of "anti-fascist" to make it easier to say


[04-Jun-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
@prism stryder(intexda) The police know they can extract leverage from the petit-bourgeois. It's why they never answered anything, or anything appropriately. If true, then many departments have realized from Baltimore's last riot that they can try to extract money from them or city government by mobilizing small buisiness anger.


[04-Jun-20 03:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just sit back and think about how hard it would be for politicians to call anti-fascists terrorists or say that we should shun anti-fascists from our society if they had to say anti-fascists and spell it out


[04-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/06/minneapolis-police-union-chief-blames-trans-people-citys-budget-woes/

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Minneapolis police union chief blames trans people for city’s budge...
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[04-Jun-20 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk so i assume they're non-voters?
@jlun2 

Much of the country is a non-voter. On average of all the eligible population under half vote in election. Of this half less than half vote for the Dems and another less than half vote Republican. The remainder of the 40-48% of politically active voters are independents or third party.


[04-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
`During his time on the force, Kroll has been involved in three police shootings and racked up at least 20 internal affairs complaints. There have also been numerous lawsuits against him and the city alleging he used excessive forces and racial slurs.

The city has asked police and other unionized workers to forgo raises this year after the coronavirus pandemic ravaged the city’s budget. Kroll told Silverhammer that he couldn’t agree to the savings because the city was wasting money by settling police brutality lawsuits and helping transgender people navigate city services.`

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[04-Jun-20 03:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
eat the police?


[04-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
With gay fish sauce.


[04-Jun-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're liek crabs, you need to break open their hard outer shells first


[04-Jun-20 03:24 AM] jlun2#8758
too bad it'll be forgotten in a week


[04-Jun-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the protests?


[04-Jun-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah... no


[04-Jun-20 03:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, it kinda seems (from my perspective) that people who are on the whole more ok with the military taking over law enforcement vs. our police, despite this being flagrantly unconstitutional, is that they believe they'll do a better job. In terms of de-escalation, situational awareness, accountability and a chain of command, etc


[04-Jun-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police escalated that to a point of no return


[04-Jun-20 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To the point where even though I know the photo op of the national guard laying down their shields was staged, I take that as a positive - because I know the context of the commanding officer coordinating the stunt with the protest leader, giving the order, and making sure that security was maintained throughout the stunt. In *stark* contrast to the incident in which police laid down their riot shields in a play to goad the protesters closer to get them in range of tear gas and other "fun toys"


[04-Jun-20 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What it tells me is that the answer is not to make the military take over, or even to make the police less militant necessarily. It's that we've given them all the power without all the responsibility and now if you want to be a cop it *must* be done in bad faith because the entire system is in bad faith


[04-Jun-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie god i can only imagine what he's like at the dinner table


[04-Jun-20 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/06/03/asheville-mayor-wants-police-explain-destruction-medical-station/3134785001

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Asheville protests: Mayor Manheimer wants explanation of police des...
Asheville Mayor Esther Manheimer wants city police to explain the decision to destroy a medical station during a peaceful demonstration June 2.
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[04-Jun-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1268358768787668992?s=20

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A protester was hit by a car in Colorado Springs, CO. The driver was attempting to pass the crowd by driving on the sidewalk. The woman's condition is unknown.

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[04-Jun-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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@Dilarus You serious? Everyone is already against racism & George Floyd's murder. Sorry to break it to you, but the civil rights fight is over. We won, systemic racism was defeated. BLM is trying to push a racist fantasy. I'm all for the protesters to speak, but it should be ...
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[04-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Marukomuru tbh I'd never upvote such obnoxious art/message aggressively demanding me to do or say something, especially drawn as mouthpiece


[04-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[04-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I feel like it would go down something along the lines of
>>> "you are a terrible person if you don't say something"
"Okay, I'm saying something."
"yeah but you're not *doing* anything"
"You... told me to say something."
"fuck you, you don't support us"


[04-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy is fucking nuts


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>EA *Sports* is on the list after EA announced their active efforts


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ah, One Angry Gamer


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A "small" problem with the "say something" stuff is... where and when


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Kink.com
>Kotaku
>JOEL OSTEEN


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I say a lot in here, the hellthread, and some other places


[04-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 is a **TRAITOR**


[04-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/robsmithonline/status/1267955598831878145

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https://twitter.com/robsmithonline/status/1267955598831878145
You say black lives matter? Look what you did to my store!”

Another heartbreaking look at the human cost of the pointless rioting and looting.

Cc: @thecjpearson and good on him for helping this lady via his GoFundMe.

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[04-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[04-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I don't go on pornhub and post about BLM or palestine or free nepal


[04-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Does it make me a bad person that I don't remind everyone jerking off to stepsister porn about the native american struggle in western canada?


[04-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[04-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Apparently it does?


[04-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Natives have stepsisters too


[04-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/zoomerclips/status/1267682087261233157

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Asian shop owner points gun at looter in Sacramento https://t.co/Kbm1X2XdY3
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[04-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But god forbid you decide to one day use their "silence is complicit" argument against them


[04-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Wait, what the fuck; why is Lego on the list


[04-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Got rid of police sets


[04-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also if his line is saying anything bad about it at all


[04-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why isn't Trump himself on this list?


[04-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Because he's not a traitor, duh


[04-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>YongYea is on the list


[04-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
This *has* to be a troll


[04-Jun-20 04:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KqDIPdCOg

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[04-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy is obsessed


[04-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't like anything unless there's sex in it


[04-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or scantily clad women


[04-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Jun-20 04:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Damn 🅱️ spitting fire from the 60's still burning. https://youtu.be/hnIjXmfTSYg

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James Baldwin and America's "racial problem"
In the Western world, and especially in America, what is "white" and what is "black"? Here is James Baldwin, prophetic and provocative as ever, talking about race, imperialism and identity. This was filmed in London in 1969, but it's equally relevant today.

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[04-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Poland has _massive_ emigration


[04-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And not for economic reasons


[04-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Very homophobic and nationalistic country as I heard.


[04-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My company has hired loads of poles and the reason they give during interviews for why apply to the company is _always_ "it's not poland"


[04-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worst thing to happen to Poland since they lost the recipe for ice cubes


[04-Jun-20 04:20 AM] jlun2#8758
googling "Poland has massive emigration" gave https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/world/europe/immigration-poland-ukraine-christian.html

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Poland Bashes Immigrants, but Quietly Takes Christian Ones
The far-right government rails against accepting foreigners. But facing a labor crisis, the country has opened the door to record numbers of mostly Christian newcomers.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/06/world/xxpoland-immigration5/xxpoland-immigration5-facebookJumbo.jpg


[04-Jun-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
I guess they're trying to be europe gop


[04-Jun-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
is it bad the only other time I hear about poland is gay ych pics?


[04-Jun-20 04:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Countries go too far to the right then wonder why they have a brain drain.


[04-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Why_didn%27t_you_invest_in_eastern_poland_advertisement.jpg

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[04-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well?


[04-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"there's an eastern poland?"


[04-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
"_Son, we moved from Poland 10 years ago_"


[04-Jun-20 04:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
you mean commie traitors Poland?


[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/grenlith/status/1268349304684437504

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[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, the Cthulhu alert


[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No Lives Matter


[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hail Cthulhu


[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony nah, that cant be right. that be admiting they made a mistake, and that's bad


[04-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh no, the Goeal'atal are coming


[04-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Itsthinking it feels like everyone are going mad, so perhaps Cthulhu indeed has awakened


[04-Jun-20 04:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
possibly something went wrong missing  "T in" "cy." Like when you open some files in notepad and only some of it makes any sense.


[04-Jun-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
probably just mistransmitted bytes that made the decoder think it was not ascii


[04-Jun-20 04:36 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is Trump an old fart


[04-Jun-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
why is water wet


[04-Jun-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not a very useful question


[04-Jun-20 04:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like he doesn't have power to shut down social media


[04-Jun-20 04:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That doesn't work in a way


[04-Jun-20 04:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
He's the definition of a boomer


[04-Jun-20 04:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Back in Trumps day you could call someone a commie and never hear from them again. He is mad he can't do that to twitter.


[04-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Cloudy#3004
he's also used to saying "do this" and it gets done


[04-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Cloudy#3004
since he was the head of his company


[04-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Cloudy#3004
now he has to run shit through hundreds of people and its slow af


[04-Jun-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
stay classy 4chan https://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1591238055952.jpg

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[04-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Pfft


[04-Jun-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
he's not even a good businessman but is given unlimited chances to bankrupt businesses


[04-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Cloudy#3004
which is somehow how you get ahead


[04-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Cloudy#3004
but


[04-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Cloudy#3004
such is the system


[04-Jun-20 04:45 AM] jlun2#8758
> Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has not been shy about promoting the government’s agenda. “We want to reshape Europe and re-Christianize it,” he said in 2017 in an interview with a Catholic television station. The government recently ordered all new passports include the phrase, “God, Honor, Motherland.”
ew


[04-Jun-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
🙁


[04-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Adding God to stuff in the US only happened because anti communism


[04-Jun-20 04:50 AM] jlun2#8758
something is wrong if the only reason I know gay christains exist is because FurAffinity

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[04-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are actually saying McCarthy was right


[04-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McCarthy only did the shit he did in hopes the GOP would primary Eisenhower in 56


[04-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't the modern GOP, or they would have.


[04-Jun-20 05:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] she has such obnoxious expression that the text fits art perfectly well


[04-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Probably even better than original.


[04-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it got deleted btw


[04-Jun-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
?


[04-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I mean the Pinkie art


[04-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
one you linked from 4chan


[04-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
link is dead too


[04-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And her expression is the one I'd imagine on hateful person, not on the person asking to stop violence.


[04-Jun-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
oh the thread got pruned


[04-Jun-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
4chan jannies doing their job


[04-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://mymelochan.tumblr.com/post/619961075006341120

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ikemen biimu ★彡
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[04-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This is a pretty decent summary of why things went to shit


[04-Jun-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610

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[04-Jun-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the file


[04-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oversimplified, but still


[04-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Thanks Byte, I will share with fellow shitposters


[04-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[04-Jun-20 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
@byte[] Reminds me of the Jimmy Neutron meme I saw as a response to this shit where Jimmy's dad is like, "those are some nice statistics Jimbo but did you know there is a bias in the methodology" and goes on to pedantically explain how black neighbor hoods are over policed since predictive policing models put cops in places where there's been high levels of crime and a higher concentration of cops makes more crime so it ends up making a positive feedback loop


[04-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It really leads to a "nobody ain't gonna help us but ourselves" attitude, since it's probably going to end up being true.


[04-Jun-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Attorney-identifies-SF-resident-fatally-shot-by-15315301.php

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SF resident was kneeling when fatally shot by Vallejo police during...
The young man who was shot and killedby Vallejo police early Tuesday morning was identified Wednesday as 22-year-old San Francisco resident Sean Monterrosa.
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[04-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> The shooting is under investigation by the Vallejo police and the Solano County district attorney’s office. The officer, an 18-year veteran of the force, has been placed on administrative leave.


[04-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Translation: He'll be back in two weeks


[04-Jun-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/7aoipuu96s251.jpg

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[04-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
nice shirts


[04-Jun-20 06:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/256qp5vl7s251.jpg

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[04-Jun-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
is that an asian with a nazi sign?


[04-Jun-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a protest sign which says cops are nazis


[04-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
I like it


[04-Jun-20 07:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does the 4th cop look like an Asian


[04-Jun-20 07:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Talk about racism


[04-Jun-20 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Because he is


[04-Jun-20 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/554xw1z.jpg

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Let's start a riot (the poster was fired)
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[04-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://kstp.com/news/george-floyd-autopsy-report-shows-george-floyd-died-from-cardiopulmonary-arrest-was-positive-for-covid-19/5750262/

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Autopsy report: George Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest, was ...
A postmortem nasal swab was taken which confirmed that Floyd was positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The postmortem positivity likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent PCR positivity from previous infection, the report said ...
https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/2020-06/800GeorgeFloydAttorneyCrump.jpg


[04-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-moments-surrounding-louisville-police-and-fatal-shooting-of-david-mcatee-84292165947

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Watch: Video shows moments surrounding fatal shooting of David McAtee
The Louisville Metro Police Department has released security video that they say shows  David McAtee firing at officers outside his restaurant before he was shot to death.  WAVE's Natalie Martinez reports.
https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/202006/NC_louisvilleshooting0603_1920x1080.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[04-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So there was exchange of shots in that restaurant


[04-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Fascinating. I've never read an autopsy before


[04-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is unknown who he was shooting at though and who fired first


[04-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
from guns server


[04-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[04-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hah


[04-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268

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[04-Jun-20 08:28 AM] byte[]#2610
you posted in the wrong chat :TRN:


[04-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh fuck


[04-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Well this is awkward


[04-Jun-20 08:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Did you post the pan?


[04-Jun-20 08:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[04-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Raptorshy#6268
M-maybe


[04-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Dogman15#6007
Is this controversial? My opinion is it's not, or it shouldn't be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuT-g9amfPw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuT-g9amfPw
Black America Needs Fathers
POWERFUL: A police officer and a protestor teach two young men that there is a better way than rioting.

Black America needs fathers and good role models. Broken homes lead to broken communities.
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[04-Jun-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
It's PragerU


[04-Jun-20 09:29 AM] byte[]#2610
So it's uncontroversially stupid :^)


[04-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe stop having cops shooting the fathers.


[04-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Dogman15#6007
How about addressing the points Larry Elder makes, and not focus on the channel he's guest-appearing on?


[04-Jun-20 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
most of us don't have the time to do a point by point breakdown of a video essay


[04-Jun-20 09:36 AM] byte[]#2610
nor is that really even a remotely useful way to spend our time


[04-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you asked whether it's controversial, all there was to go on was the channel name, person ivolved, and a title.


[04-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are now insisting after a response based on those factors that the response is inadequate because it did not consider other things which you had not indicated were to be considered.


[04-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you ask us to judge things by their initial appearance, don't get mad when we do so.


[04-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Dogman15#6007
I was asking if the statement "Black America needs fathers" is controversial.


[04-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Dogman15#6007
That's the thesis, basically.


[04-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is, for the reason of my immediate response.


[04-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
^


[04-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statement inherently implies that the problem is blakk people not being good enuff to stikk around, as police beat or murder them, arrest them over minor offenses, and send them to jail for decades.


[04-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were white people, you wouldn't phrase the thesis that way.


[04-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would say "Society needs to give back the fathers it's taking"


[04-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's not white people, and so it's instead just saying the fathers are needed, without saying society is responsible, or has a duty to fix it.


[04-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The onus is put on the blakk community.


[04-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what conservatives always do, and it's fukking horrible.


[04-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like marching into a sweatshop-ridden area and just going "Hey, you need unions"


[04-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No fukking duh they need unions, but you can't hav unions when shit is in the way.


[04-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Skimming thru the stupid video, it's main point is to say that there are two problems:
1. Racism by whites
2. Blakk kids not having dads


[04-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
it then says that since the second problem has a very bad effect, we should focus on it, ignoring the first


[04-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Dogman15#6007
This is the original video, minus the extra stuff added at the beginning, from four years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszQelEQ2KY Here's a transcript of the video, if you'd like to read what Larry Elder said instead of spending time listening to him: https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi80/1DmClaGm7qAWKCYwqIEsa0/4f26579f5e95304a8484e9e1e48d035e/elder-black_fathers_matter-transcript.pdf

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Black Fathers Matter
Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or the absence of fathers? Drawing on a sea of official data and his own upbringing, talk-show host Larry Elder shows just how important black fathers are in turning boys into responsible and happy men--and how their ab...
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[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the entire fukking problem here is PROBLEM ONE CAUSES PROBLEM TWO


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Marry black women obviously :twismug:


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Dogman15#6007

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[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism by whites KILLS blakk men


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when it doesn't kill them it imprisons them or takes away their livelihood


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Dogman15#6007

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[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The country is better than before with black people but the problem is a lot more insidious now


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That screenshot is of the third point


[04-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Dogman15#6007
Tupac Shakur recognized the need for fathers.


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 3rd point is a bunch of fukking nonsense BS


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying that women are "marrying the gov't"


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know what actually happens that's like that?


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Dogman15#6007
Relying on government welfare.


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's BS


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what's actually kind of like that is


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It happens even where government welfare is hard to get


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
in many housing projects, conservatives force in special requirements


[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Dogman15#6007

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[04-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
they say a family can't be making too much money


[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
or it can't be together


[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
and anyone that ever violates that gets evicted


[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Dogman15#6007
Here's the opening of the video, just to be complete:

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[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
this, conservatives say, is to keep the welfare only used by the less fortunate


[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
the practical effect however is that poor fathers are REQUIRED to stay away


[04-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
otherwise housing isn't affordable


[04-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
conservatives are literally forcing poor people to not be in stable nuclear families


[04-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then using the fact that people are not in stable nuclear families as justification to remove the welfare that they conditioned on such.


[04-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a very fukking evil move


[04-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who are behind shit like PragerU are the ones who took away blakk fathers.


[04-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh uh


[04-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
no more prageru


[04-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not letting you cover this channel in complete misinformation.


[04-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh btw


[04-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying "get a job" is even fukking worse in all this.


[04-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHITE RACISM IS WHY BLAKKS CAN'T GET JOBS


[04-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs used by blakks wery specifically targeted for maximum penalties.


[04-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, companies started screening job applicants for felony convictions.


[04-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what happens according to research when an area bans that screening?


[04-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Companies **stop hiring blakk people based on name**.


[04-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/consequences-of-ban-the-box/494435/

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When Banning One Kind of Discrimination Results in Another
A new paper finds that so-called “ban-the-box” policies, which prevent employers’ from seeing job applicants’ criminal histories, has unintended consequences.
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[04-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're a country where commiting a crime means you can't get a job well after getting out of jail, and we hav the highest percentage of our population in jail of any country.


[04-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And where even if the company is forced to allow former criminals to get jobs, it just says "well his name is Lerone..."


[04-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then when Lerone can't get a job because companies don't want to hire someone that dark, and he's forced to rely on welfare, people say he's a bad person.


[04-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you get told day-in, day-out you are just a bad person, and never allowed a chance to be good, you *will be* a bad person.


[04-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives should giv the blakk community bakk its fathers.


[04-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
End private prisons.


[04-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, it should be completely unconstitutional to make any money off of imprisoning people.


[04-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The constitution p.much says the exact opposite, sadly


[04-Jun-20 10:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, amendment to it, anyway


[04-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Crow#5457
oh shit, they even revoked his white status


[04-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Republicans are better at making anti-trump ads than Biden's own team =/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viO4Nz7DyHI

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Deer In The Headlights | Joe Biden For President
Join our campaign: http://www.joebiden.com

Follow Joe!
Joe’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/joebiden
Joe’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joebiden
Joe’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joebiden

#JoeBiden #Joe2020 #BidenForPresident

Former Vice President Joe Biden is ...
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[04-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/investing/stocks-market-dow-jones-riots-coronavirus/index.html

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America is in turmoil and stocks are booming. Is the market broken?
The stock market is not the economy. But rarely has the gap between Wall Street and Main Street felt so wide.
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[04-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Crow#5457
when even CNN is questioning this bullshit, you know things are broken


[04-Jun-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/03/vladimir-putin-orders-state-of-emergency-huge-fuel-spill-siberia-power-plant-kerch

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Putin orders state of emergency after huge fuel spill inside Arctic...
President lambasts power plant owner ‘for not reporting earlier’ incident bigger than Kerch spill
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[04-Jun-20 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2020/05/31/george-floyd-protesters-coronavirus-social-distancing-shame/

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Protesting Police Violence Is Critical. But Why Are the Social Dist...
What happened to staying at home to keep grandparents safe no matter what?
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[04-Jun-20 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
reason being unreasonable


[04-Jun-20 01:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I saw news said that a 150 kg weight USA flag is tore up in halves by the strong wind


[04-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
~~Symbolic voodoo magic shit~~


[04-Jun-20 01:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe that flag is made in China?

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[04-Jun-20 01:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:squintyjack:


[04-Jun-20 02:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Why is that whenever there are fuel spills it is always into something important and kills everything? You would think after so many they would plan their routes to avoid this.


[04-Jun-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it almost sounds like they do it on purpose


[04-Jun-20 02:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/lovettejallow/status/1268233200473604096

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https://twitter.com/lovettejallow/status/1268233200473604096
The #blacklivesmatter protest in stockholm is now ending in police violence. If you have any updates or are in place please contact me NOW! https://t.co/xYV2KE8f2V
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[04-Jun-20 02:29 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He picked up that girl and tossed her. what the fuck are they doing?


[04-Jun-20 02:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh, maybe it’s best if he shove those words up in his ass https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1268497685553823745?s=21

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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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[04-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/3/21277104/qualified-immunity-cops-constitution-shaniz-west-supreme-court

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Government officials enjoy broad protections against lawsuits, and that includes rogue cops.
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[04-Jun-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ktvu.com/news/vallejo-police-shoot-kill-22-year-old-san-francisco-man-after-mistaking-hammer-for-gun

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Vallejo police shoot, kill 22-year-old San Francisco man after mist...
The incident unfolded outside of the Walgreens store on Redwood Street and Broadway. Officers who responded were returning to the store for the third time in about a two hour timespan.
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[04-Jun-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jun-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990 source of quote

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The 1990 Playboy Interview With Donald Trump
Playboy sat down with a young Donald Trump in 1990 where he teased a future in politics
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[04-Jun-20 05:07 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1268353490004455426

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Ashleigh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@AshBCoffin)
https://twitter.com/AshBCoffin/status/1268353490004455426
You say “ACAB” now but what happens if your husband starts beating you and you need to call 911 so that his co-workers can show up and help him?
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[04-Jun-20 05:09 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Oof


[04-Jun-20 05:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816

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[04-Jun-20 05:28 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The lower left is funny


[04-Jun-20 05:29 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So clop matters


[04-Jun-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
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[04-Jun-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/nypd-officers-caught-beating-cyclist-with-batons-in-horrifying-viral-video

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NYPD Officers Caught Beating Cyclist With Batons in ‘Horrifying’ Vi...
The video appears to show at least three NYPD officers beating a cyclist in the street.
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[04-Jun-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Stoopedhooy yo in regards to that meme


[04-Jun-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What point is it trying to make


[04-Jun-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nobody in the proper left actually cares about gun control by this point


[04-Jun-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yall say "guns don't kill people, people kill people", we just say "society kills people" :shrugpony:


[04-Jun-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also not to mention that the government and even the GOP are the ones pushing for gun control, casual reminder about Reagan's actions against the Black Panthers


[04-Jun-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/donald-trump-says-he-did-not-go-into-the-white-house-bunker-out-of-fear

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Donald Trump Says He Did Not Go Into The White House Bunker Out Of ...
Donald Trump claims he only went into the bunker of the White House last week to inspect it despite
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[04-Jun-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Come on...laugh


[04-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[04-Jun-20 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/jyNW8cR

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yOu’Re tWiStInG hIs wOrDs
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[04-Jun-20 07:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_Nixon_ thought Trump was too racist, really makes you think


[04-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember Lafayette Square June 2nd 2020 as you remember Tiananmen Square Massacre June 4th 1989.


[04-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm never going to stop saying this ever beacuse I want this to be burned in your memorys of this admistation


[04-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
If you can, please give to the ACLU and other organizations that defend protestors: https://action.aclu.org/give/now-v1


⚖️⚖️⚖️Interested in LAW SCHOOL?  Get my PRELAW COURSE: 
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[04-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember Lafayette Square June 2nd 2020.


[04-Jun-20 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://m.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2020/06/04/bexar-county-gop-chair-claims-george-floyds-killing-was-a-staged-event-to-hurt-trump

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Bexar County GOP Chair Claims George Floyd's Killing Was a 'Staged ...
San Antonio political observers are accustomed to Bexar County Republican Chairwoman Cynthia Brehm spinning conspiracy webs. After all, just last month she claimed the coronavirus...
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[04-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://lifehacker.com/open-zip-ties-with-a-broken-bobby-pin-1843882788

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Open Zip Ties With a Broken Bobby Pin
If you’ve got something that’s zip-tied together that shouldn’t be zip-tied together—whatever it is, for whatever reason—a broken bobby pin can be an excellent release tool.
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[04-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ahmaud-arbery-mcmichael-racial-expletives-court

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Man accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery used racial expletives after s...
The Georgia man who allegedly shot Ahmaud Arbery while he was he was jogging on a residential street stood over the 25-year-old's lifeless body, using racial expletives, according to testimony given Thursday in a Gynn Country courtroom.
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[04-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> The Georgia man who allegedly shot Ahmaud Arbery while he was he was jogging on a residential street called him a "f---ing n----r" as he stood over the 25-year-old's lifeless body, according to testimony given Thursday in a Gynn Country courtroom.


[04-Jun-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://people.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-has-on-air-meltdown-in-heated-exchange-with-piers-morgan/

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Rudy Giuliani Has Heated On-Air Exchange with Piers Morgan: 'You So...
Host Piers Morgan called Rudy Giuliani "abusive" and "deranged" as the politician defended President Donald Trump's controversial response to the protests
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[04-Jun-20 08:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/morphonios/status/1268370620418527232?s=19

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https://twitter.com/morphonios/status/1268370620418527232?s=19
This man isn't a protester.  He was just a guy sitting at a traffic light when cops shot his car with a tear gas round. He got out to yell at them because his pregnant wife is in the vehicle. So they opened fire on them. https://t.co/gFAsxwi97x
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[04-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder Giuliani cut funding to FDNY months before 9/11


[04-Jun-20 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
uh oh, gamers gonna rise up
https://kotaku.com/rockstar-games-will-temporarily-shut-down-gta-online-an-1843905812

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Rockstar Games said today that it will shut down the servers for its popular online games, Red Dead Online and Grand Theft Auto Online, for two hours in response to the current protests over police brutality and the death of George Floyd.
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[04-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  i just found something other people see/expect funny. I am not sure how that guns thing works really.


[04-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/K5CCUdu7xFI

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The Onion
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[04-Jun-20 09:26 PM] jimm#1439
that's a pretty good platform

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[04-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gwfu8e/apd_gets_water_splashed_on_them_and_immediately/

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r/PublicFreakout - APD gets water splashed on them and immediately ...
56,392 votes and 6,457 comments so far on Reddit
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[04-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit dude


[04-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
literally less water than a light drizzle


[04-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
and they go apeshit


[04-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey remember when the courts said it's okay to literally not allow non-cop-brained people to become cops? https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

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Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops


[04-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
`Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training. `


[04-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, no smart people cause you aren't a loyal force to go around dumbly beating people up with no prospects for a better job.


[04-Jun-20 09:52 PM] jlun2#8758
dumb men only


[04-Jun-20 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/citypages/status/1268519881625853953

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Minneapolis City Council members consider disbanding the police https://t.co/bmjMJfOsyl
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[04-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU_9ucFfhdI

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Sheevy Memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU_9ucFfhdI
Palpatine says "Do it" 268,435,456 times
DEW IT!
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[04-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the way


[04-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
complete disbanding to create a new force using none of the old officers at conception is actually the correct solution in cases of large amounts of corruption.


[04-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no other way to deal with it.


[04-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that police organizations hav a lot of power over themselves and anyone monitoring them


[04-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
so any time you try to target "a few bad apples" the other bad apples will, seeing themselves as the next likely targets, do everything to stop you or slow you down.


[04-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
With a completely new force, you can start with trustworthy people from the beginning, so even if a bad apple does join, they're pressured by the good apples, and so even if you slowly reabsorb the former officers of the old, corrupt force, they usually won't be able to make things corrupt again.


[04-Jun-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd be worried about all these cops from other forces and why they're so readily available


[04-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In most industries you don't talk badly about a previous employee when asked for a reference, can't imagine it'd be much different here


[04-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah there's a very real possibility they just get bad apples from other places.


[04-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The initial setup needs to hav non-police vetting them hard.


[04-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they shouldn't take on anyone who so much as has received a complaint.


[04-Jun-20 10:36 PM] Mani#1404
LB is really a pisser.


[04-Jun-20 10:38 PM] Mani#1404
Man some people just have no respect.


[04-Jun-20 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
> In most industries you don't talk badly about a previous employee when asked for a reference, can't imagine it'd be much different here
@Teaspoon 
As I recall reading during American police union contract re-negotiations a pretty much default condition of the negotiations is to clear officer records for the last five years and they can re-instated.


[04-Jun-20 10:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
So you can get people bouncing around the country, because they also get their records cleared in time.


[04-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/J4HSa7q>

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[04-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-moments-surrounding-louisville-police-and-fatal-shooting-of-david-mcatee-84292165947

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Watch: Video shows moments surrounding fatal shooting of David McAtee
The Louisville Metro Police Department has released security video that they say shows  David McAtee firing at officers outside his restaurant before he was shot to death.  WAVE's Natalie Martinez reports.
https://media12.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/202006/NC_louisvilleshooting0603_1920x1080.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[04-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/1268401196840206337

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[04-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/tamascotchi/status/1268458799507165184

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incense is candle pocky (@tamascotchi)
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[05-Jun-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao at the gamers seething at that response


[05-Jun-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And claiming they’re not the ones foaming at the mouth


[05-Jun-20 12:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just ignore it smh


[05-Jun-20 12:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Based Jon


[05-Jun-20 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Based on what? He basically just said nothing lmao


[05-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lately, you need more balls to do something like this rather than write another "i am here with you mah internet dudes".


[05-Jun-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
He literally did centrist meme


[05-Jun-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
"we just wanna grill"


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“More balls to do something like this”


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, sure lmao


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes. Twitter will crucify you for that. @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And call you a racist.


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, what a big problem!


[05-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What torture!


[05-Jun-20 12:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
After this we should truly believe gamers are people deserving of rights!


[05-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wat


[05-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wat:


[05-Jun-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/Ny1WNQG.png

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NRA apologies for not rising up against the tyrannical government. The thing it's been crying about for decades
https://i.imgur.com/Ny1WNQG.png


[05-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Fun


[05-Jun-20 12:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inshallah i will exterminate gamers from the face of this earth


[05-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I will repost this to some gun nuts i know


[05-Jun-20 12:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*it's as if they were actually just scared of black people*


[05-Jun-20 12:18 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:zeeb: :wheeze:


[05-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Afraid that black people will go "Hulk smash" on them


[05-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[05-Jun-20 12:26 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:smugcaddy:


[05-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Seriously tho, I think that every person thinks about their own skin by default rather.


[05-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
"They are just afraid of blacks" is a bit too bold of a statement imo.


[05-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But that missed opportunity is a funny thing.


[05-Jun-20 12:31 AM] danmur15#7448
(from a friend i agree with)

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[05-Jun-20 12:31 AM] danmur15#7448
i guess i understand the decision a little bit but i still dont agree with it


[05-Jun-20 12:32 AM] danmur15#7448
i was under the impression that the site was supposed to be an archive of pony art. picking and choosing what you archive undermines the intent of the booru.


[05-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@danmur15 so fucking normies won't call the site a den of racists


[05-Jun-20 12:34 AM] danmur15#7448
so make the polititics tag hidden by default on all filters (other than everything)


[05-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And eventually call all bronies racists


[05-Jun-20 12:34 AM] danmur15#7448
im all for the black lives matter movement but i also believe in absolute freedom when it comes to artistic expression.


[05-Jun-20 12:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Instead admins decided to tank this kind of criticism?


[05-Jun-20 12:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[05-Jun-20 12:35 AM] danmur15#7448
also, theres much worse stuff on the site than an image like this:
https://is2.4chan.org/mlp/1590973152298.jpg

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[05-Jun-20 12:36 AM] danmur15#7448
just start purging everything if you are going to censor recent politics


[05-Jun-20 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Fascist purge is good.


[05-Jun-20 12:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Same.


[05-Jun-20 12:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That art was made to degrade black people


[05-Jun-20 12:36 AM] danmur15#7448
i know, but im saying theres way worse already on the site


[05-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What?


[05-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Going to link some gore or hyper art?


[05-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[05-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nah he's going to link to ||oc:aryanne,my:faves||


[05-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[05-Jun-20 12:39 AM] danmur15#7448
no. theres plenty of nazi/stalin/mass shooting/etc/etc/etc you can find anywhere
(included stalin because he killed a fuckton of people and people seem to love joking about him more than hitler)


[05-Jun-20 12:39 AM] danmur15#7448
either way i guess whats done is done


[05-Jun-20 12:39 AM] danmur15#7448
have fun with your hugbox


[05-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Are you offended on behalf of Stalin or something?


[05-Jun-20 12:40 AM] danmur15#7448
what


[05-Jun-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No he’s offended that those crappy edits of that Pinkie Pie image with the 13% meme have been deleted


[05-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Those edits are rather good tbh
Gave me a chuckle


[05-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They can be deleted just by 1 reason alone - if Dilarus says he dislikes edits of his art


[05-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And most likely that is what happened


[05-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Given how caustic Dilarus is


[05-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You can't just edit someone's art. If it stays, it means the original artist is okay with those edits.


[05-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467915359966724145/718210171158921256/image0.png

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[05-Jun-20 01:55 AM] jlun2#8758
then animal crossing gets banned in US along with other shooters because "video games encourage shooting" and idiot politicians see that Doom Isabelle meme & thinking Animal Crossing is a shooter @Stoopedhooy


[05-Jun-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-hong-kongers-defy-police-order-for-tienanmen-square-vigil-2020-6

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Photos show thousands of Hong Kongers defying a police order to att...
Hong Kong banned residents from memorializing the Tiananmen Square massacre for the first time, but thousands of protesters gathered Thursday anyway.
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[05-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] The Hong Kong government cited the coronavirus as the reason for the ban [...]


[05-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I thought China had the virus under control? :twismug:


[05-Jun-20 02:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Five new cases yesterday


[05-Jun-20 02:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Jun-20 02:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The remained cases in Hong Kong is.... Fuck I can't click it on this map


[05-Jun-20 02:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who the fuck designed this? I can't zoom in the map then how can I click Hong Kong?!


[05-Jun-20 02:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok... 6 new cases in Hong Kong, 4 in Shanghai, 1 in Sichuan


[05-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/after-quieter-night-george-floyd-unrest-jamel-floyds-death-stirring-fresh-outrage-1508796

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[05-Jun-20 02:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Staff then used pepper spray in an effort to subdue the inmate.


[05-Jun-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because why try and talk him down, when you can just fire blast every hole he has until he dies?


[05-Jun-20 02:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why is there an another Floyds?


[05-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
no relation


[05-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
just same last name


[05-Jun-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God damnit US, just... refrain from murdering innocent black people for five minutes at least


[05-Jun-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is with the police addiction to using pepper spray?


[05-Jun-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's "less lethal"


[05-Jun-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-protests-greece/greek-demonstrators-hurl-firebombs-towards-us-embassy-in-athens-idUSKBN23A2ZL

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Greek demonstrators hurl firebombs towards U.S. embassy in Athens
Demonstrators hurled firebombs in a march towards the U.S. Embassy compound in Athens on Wednesday in a protest over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200603&t=2&i=1520977560&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG5221J


[05-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as rubber bullets and battons


[05-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It lets them hurt people without having to file any forms or fear they went "too far"


[05-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also tasers


[05-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Look at the footage of Ahmaud being detained from years ago


[05-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ahmaud-arbery-killer-made-racial-slur-over-joggers-body-court-hears/ar-BB152Bj8

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Ahmaud Arbery killer made racial slur over jogger’s body, court hea...
The man who shot Ahmaud Arbery stood over his body and was heard saying a racial slur, according to the lead investigator. Special prosecutor for Georgia, Richard Dial, said on Thursday that evidence showed Mr Arbery was boxed in by two pickup trucks before Travis McMichael sh...


[05-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guy's standing still, cop just tases


[05-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-greece/greece-pushes-back-migrants-after-turkish-border-onslaught-idUSKBN20N0GE

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Greece pushes back migrants after Turkish border 'onslaught'
Greek police fired teargas to push back hundreds of stone-throwing migrants trying to cross the border from Turkey on Saturday, as a crisis over Syria shifted onto the European Union's doorstep.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200229&t=2&i=1497086665&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG1S0BM


[05-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
a bit old, but greece being just as shitty as US police


[05-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh.


[05-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/501273-elon-musk-calls-for-amazon-to-be-broken-up-monopolies-are-wrong

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Elon Musk calls for Amazon to be broken up: 'Monopolies are wrong!'
Telsa and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk is calling for Amazon to be broken up. “Time to break up Amazon. Monopolies are wrong!” Musk tweeted.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_elonmusk_123019getty_1.jpg


[05-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cool, we'll start with breaking up SpaceX and Tesla


[05-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Midknight#9798
those...aren't a monopoly on anything


[05-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Midknight#9798
that's not what a monopoly is


[05-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither is Amazon


[05-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk, you sold PayPal to _eBay_


[05-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know damn well Amazon isn't a monopoly


[05-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Using his logic


[05-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Midknight#9798
fair


[05-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wal-Mart should be broken up


[05-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So should McDonald's


[05-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Midknight#9798
though... if amazon is driving competition out of business and buying up smaller marketplace websites that try to get up and running then one could say they were engaging in monopolistic practices... but I don't know that they're doing anything of the sort


[05-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Midknight#9798
That does sound like Wal-Mart though!


[05-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Midknight#9798
three grocery stores in my city were undercut and closed down and then replaced by wal-mart markets 😛


[05-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Midknight#9798
All we have left are a few from giant chains (and even some of those are gone) and the "trendy" type of place that charges 10x the price for folks who want to feel like they're shopping "special"


[05-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There used to be three chains in my metro area, now only two


[05-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[05-Jun-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stonetoss? More like, Tonedeaf


[05-Jun-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can he get any more pretentious?


[05-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it okay for white people to riot and loot about sports teams but never okay for black people to riot and loot ever?


[05-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/2/21278285/peaceful-protest-oakland-george-floyd-police-violence-tear-gas

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The protest was peaceful — then the cops arrived
In Oakland, peaceful protesters speaking out against the police killing of George Floyd were met with tear gas when cops said they’d violated curfew.
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[05-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/06/01/why-so-many-police-are-handling-the-protests-wrong

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Why So Many Police Are Handling the Protests Wrong
Disproportionate use of force can turn a peaceful protest violent, research shows.
https://d1n0c1ufntxbvh.cloudfront.net/photo/97b1cabb/57291/1200x/


[05-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Midknight#9798
pretty clear at this point that they *want* them to turn violent so they don't have to clean their own houses. then they can just arrest everyone and declare "problem solved, nothing to see here. Move. Along. Citizen."


[05-Jun-20 04:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"When do we get to use the frikin' guns?" - 🚔


[05-Jun-20 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
*turns on TV*


[05-Jun-20 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/03/russian-constitution-amendments-homophobia/

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In the Year 2035
“Will You Choose This Russia?”: Federal News Agency Releases Pro-Constitutional Amendments Ad in Which Male Couple Adopt Child as Sad Music Plays  Bumaga June 2, 2020 The Petersburg-bas…
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[05-Jun-20 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
*turns off TV*


[05-Jun-20 04:21 AM] jlun2#8758
so is russia going to be "perm" homophobic with poland


[05-Jun-20 04:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://inews.co.uk/news/homelessness-uk-minister-luke-hall-homeless-move-family-friends-coronavirus-pandemic-2873052

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Homelessness minister tells rough sleepers to ‘move in with family ...
Mr Hall has pressed councils to find alternative accommodation for 15,000 rough sleepers given a place to stay under the 'Everyone In' plan
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[05-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/ChromeTyranno/status/1268729630363656192?s=20

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Grimlockimus* Black Lives Matter * (@ChromeTyranno)
https://twitter.com/ChromeTyranno/status/1268729630363656192?s=20
"One was injured when they tripped and fell"

The video is pretty messed up, you can see him bleeding from where he hit his head.  But you can just see the lack of concern and general deceny in the police here. https://t.co/6j9agE4rtr
Twitter


[05-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
warning, the video is pretty graphic


[05-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[05-Jun-20 04:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.redd.it/wqycdunm9o251.jpg

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[05-Jun-20 04:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Replace "arrest" with "fucking murder" and there you go


[05-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Murder, then arrest.


[05-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Such a shame the game will never be officially released.


[05-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blame the ESRB.


[05-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though that may be moot, because EarthBound got a T rating when it got re-released


[05-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the ESRB.


[05-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse than the MPAA ratings board.


[05-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neither need to actually exist.


[05-Jun-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
ESRB especially, the stuff that happened in the 90s in the Senate was shameful.


[05-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On the same level of those steroids in baseball hearings


[05-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm still mad about Hot Coffee.


[05-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They gave a game a fukking Ao rating for content you could not access without modifications.


[05-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's content you could hav in any PG-13 movie easily.


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Video games were treated unfairly in terms of content for a long time


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
"were"


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You act as if anything has changed.


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, there was a time where the video game lobby spent more money than the NRA in lobbying dollars


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hatred got Ao, Its.


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it were a movie, it'd barely maybe even get R


[05-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
not NC-17.


[05-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then streaming sites declared no streaming of Ao games at the same time


[05-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
this retroactively means that you can't stream GTA San Andreas speedruns.


[05-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This behavior of theaters refusing to show NC-17 and streaming sites refusing to show Ao gameplay should be downright illegal.


[05-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a fukking rakket.


[05-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's designed to drive out independent voices that raise controversy by stepping outside the defined political lines of the industry.


[05-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is little worse you can hav in a creative industry.


[05-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article243283446.html


[05-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"In Missouri, voters will still need to request a ballot before one can be mailed. Voters not considered “at-risk” under the law could mail an application for a ballot to their local election authority via the U.S. Postal Service. Once approved and mailed back, however, the ballots would need to be signed by the voter and validated by a notary public before their return."


[05-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
'considered "at-risk"' -> 'people who are at the age where all the blakks are dead'


[05-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Voters who fall within “at-risk” categories as defined in the law can vote absentee and will not need notary approval. Those include those 65 or older, immunocompromised, or have certain chronic or respiratory illnesses."


[05-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notary approval is basically to get the younger whites.


[05-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is just gonna be used to stop the blakk vote.


[05-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Notaries are not allowed to charge in Missouri if purpose of their service is related to voting."


[05-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But of course, that is the goal


[05-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The goal of these notaries is to say no if the person is blakk.


[05-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need to charge money to do it.


[05-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Most people will go to a government office or a UPS store or something


[05-Jun-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or a bank


[05-Jun-20 06:05 AM] Midknight#9798
So I have a friend who's upset everyone's talking about the shitty things government is doing to black folks and not mentioning the shitty things government is doing to native american folks right now too. But I can't find any articles, so it's kinda hard to talk about something I don't know about. SO if you see something, say something. k? 🙂


[05-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't isn't going after natives *right now*


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it does go after them regularly.


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keystone XL is a prime example


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Didn't it take away their reservation lately?


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Cloudy#3004
US citizens don't like to talk about natives


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The most recent was the SCOTUS fight where one of the conservative justices suddenly actually broke ranks to say "treaties matter"


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Cloudy#3004
and they tried to, yes
think its still going through courts n shit


[05-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a huge surprise to see SCOTUS *not* shit all over natives.


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keystone XL doesn't take away the reservations, it just says they don't hav real authority


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US signed a treaty to allow the Cherokee representation in the House so


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
which was the entire point of having reservations, to hav authority


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, something else really recent, @Midknight


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
In I think North Dakota, the tribes were setting up chekkpoints on their reservations


[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Midknight  will this do?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/31/trump-administration-revokes-mashpee-wampanoag-tribe-reservation-status

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[05-Jun-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
to make sure people with COVID-19 weren't driving thru spreading the disease


[05-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The state gov't got VERY mad about this


[05-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
and threatened to send in troops


[05-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, that thing


[05-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Midknight the status revocation is because of a really stupid technicality.


[05-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bill basically said to only giv stuff to tribes recognized at the time.


[05-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tribe got recognition after the bill went into effect.


[05-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the courts were like "hmm, rescind it all!"


[05-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that is a *recent* interpretation of the law.


[05-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the law is 90 years old.


[05-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically a small-scale experiment for the concept of originalism/textualism conservatives are trying to use to destroy things like using the 14th amendment to say that segregation is unconstitutional.


[05-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Midknight#9798
hmm. ignoring 90 years of precedent so you can be a dick to people... yeah that sounds like Trump


[05-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the legacy of Scalia.


[05-Jun-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He founded an entire school of thought on interpreting the law based on "well the founding fathers wouldn't giv blakks rights so we should take those away"


[05-Jun-20 06:17 AM] Honahue#0656
tbf to Trump screwing over natives isn't new to the US he's just the latest, Obama did it too with the Keystone protests


[05-Jun-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans want natives to not hav rights. Democrats want them to hav rights, but where they can't stop the gov't from drilling for tons of oil.


[05-Jun-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither side is liberal.


[05-Jun-20 06:18 AM] Honahue#0656
America has a good long history of looking at Amerindians and saying fuck you


[05-Jun-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are basically kept out of the US gov't.


[05-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is as liberal as they can even allow, and they don't really tolerate him.


[05-Jun-20 06:22 AM] jlun2#8758
> It's basically a small-scale experiment for the concept of originalism/textualism conservatives are trying to use to destroy things like using the 14th amendment to say that segregation is unconstitutional
do you think it will happen?


[05-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, they waited too long.


[05-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if SCOTUS said so, it'd get reversed within 20 years regardless.


[05-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to say the 14th amendment doesn't apply to LGBT discrimination right now. That's likely to fail.


[05-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sexual orientation discrimination is sex discrimination for the purposes of Title VII. Any other interpretation makes no sense.


[05-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed.


[05-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But conservatives are trying anyways.


[05-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't discriminate based on sex


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are in a war on basic judicial logic, because liberals hav laid a foundation that makes it destroy them.


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
or _sex-based stereotypes_


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But you can on sexual orientation?


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative argument is


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't discriminate on whether someone is white or blakk


[05-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you can based on whether they practice miscegenation.


[05-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, to be white and date a blakk person or vice versa.


[05-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Title VII sex discrimination developed in a way that kind of boxes conservatives in, but they always come up with BS to get out of it


[05-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is that if you treat a male gay person the same as a female gay person, and a male straight person the same as a female straight person, then you aren't discriminating.


[05-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you don't promote a woman because she isn't traditionally feminine enough, that's sex discrimination


[05-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you wouldn't fire a woman for having a photo of her husband on her desk, you can't fire a man for having a photo of his husband on his desk


[05-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by the same logic


[05-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're plainly saying "It's different because you're a man" which can't be allowed


[05-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you treat a white person who hangs out with blakk people the same as a blakk person who hangs out with people, and white person hanging out with whites the same as blakks hanging out with blakks, it's not racist.


[05-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* you say "you're fired, you hung out with other races"


[05-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
not racist.


[05-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1268717966532792325

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[05-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[05-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
it looks like he picked up one of those police riot helmets and was trying to return it


[05-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
and the fucking pigs cracked his head open for it


[05-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This is so messed up


[05-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AshleyroweWKBW/status/1268738579833991168

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In two hours, Buffalo Police have gone from “tripped and fell” to two officers suspended without pay. What would have been the result if there wasn’t cell phone video?
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[05-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3095217


[05-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently police unions are a bad thing


[05-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Unions in general are pretty shitty


[05-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Most of them anyways


[05-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They tend to not do much and take a lot of your money to do it


[05-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
One I was in was about to send us all on strike because they didn't want to lose 1 dollar sunday pay despite all the other improvements in the agreement


[05-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Improvements that turned out to be useless because the store just calls them optional and that's that


[05-Jun-20 08:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"collective bargaining" seems to be the only pro mentioned for police unions, to which I gotta say - *why is this something that needed collective bargaining in the first place, being directly tied to government and all*


[05-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And all the extra confusion from what is and isn't allowed between the union, store, state, and federal government. It's impossible to actually fact check a small thing without spending a ton of time digging things up


[05-Jun-20 08:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But then I remember that USPS workers have a union too


[05-Jun-20 08:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
From what I understand, unions are a really good thing to have when striking is necessary


[05-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
When they disagreed with the bargaining, I would have been forced to go on strike even if I disagreed with them


[05-Jun-20 08:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the rest of the time, there's an awfully big legacy left behind in how unions operate from when organized crime was synonymous


[05-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That makes sense


[05-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
All I know is I spent a fuck of a lot of money to get minimal protections, a lot of confusion between what's allowed, limited breaks (because of confusion), and a tiny pay increase over time that matched what I got when I moved to a new job anyways, so it didn't even matter


[05-Jun-20 08:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are Jimmy Hoffas alive and well throughout the country and throughout various industries


[05-Jun-20 08:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though these days we tend to associate their tactics with things like "regulatory capture" and court stacking


[05-Jun-20 08:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they look after their own


[05-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unions are great when there's a lot of them and they're politically active so they can get workers rights.


[05-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I was a food worker when I was in a union


[05-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, political power is really, really excluded from the working class.


[05-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There's not much rights to be had


[05-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that the US has an unusually long campaigning season.


[05-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means the only people able to play are rich, don't need to work.


[05-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm so glad campaign signs aren't allowed on base for that exact reason


[05-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means they are inherently against the working class.


[05-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
On top of that, US unions are often very very specific.


[05-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's hard to fight for workers' rights in general when you're laser-focused on a specific industry.


[05-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, unions work great in a scandinavian model.


[05-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole structure of the US is against that.


[05-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, unions only exist for strikes, which the gov't can just fukking end.


[05-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's crazy.


[05-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
When all you can do is be corrupt, be corrupt you'll be, and then everyone hates it, and then it dies, etc.


[05-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I just want to go back to Montana where people hate the government, but they hate big business way more


[05-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It suited my needs


[05-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav a stranglehold on it still, which is bad with their current leadership.


[05-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're letting big business screw people over like crazy.


[05-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Because they create jobs and trickle down theory, etc


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big business doesn't create jobs here.


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a net drain.


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current governor's a Democrat, and he's fought hard to actually increase jobs and access to healthcare.


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now he's running for Senate, and it's a hard fight against yet another corrupt Republican shithead.


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's because taxes there specifically target big business, so it's usually not worth investing in


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember Zinke?


[05-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no, it's not the taxes


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
big businesses are killing off small ones now


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and sending resources out of state


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh good to know


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Bleh


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans basically want to all own stuff in Montana from elsewhere, the usual globalization approach.


[05-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
As much as I dislike really small businesses, the big businesses do a lot of shitty things


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In case you missed it, Zinke got made interior secretary


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I did


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
he proceeded to waste a lot of money flying around


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
embezzling


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
while trying to make it so that people could drill right on national park ground


[05-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The current Republican plan is basically to destroy the environment outright for that sweet oil money.


[05-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gianforte meanwhile takkeld a reporter on the eve of the election


[05-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
because the reporter was asking questions about his business stuff


[05-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But by that time, many people mailed in their ballets already.


[05-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gianforte is no up for reelection vs. the governor.


[05-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
When people were taking about Gianforte I always heard GM Forte and thought about it being the name of a new, really big pickup truck.


[05-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
My parents call him Giant Farte


[05-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same breath usually as Ryan Stinky


[05-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I see your fetish runs in the family


[05-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom is not a good person to hav around when eating.


[05-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
She won't shut up about toilet stuff.


[05-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Slipstream/Boofy#6050
Ok, I’m sorry but what is this? Is this serious?

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[05-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The big focus is on art that specifically incites drama and the quick 5 minute edits. We've had a lot of backlash over those specifically and it was agreed that it was for the best they were removed.


[05-Jun-20 09:48 AM] Slipstream/Boofy#6050
You can’t call yourself an art archive site and then delete art if you feel like it’s in bad taste


[05-Jun-20 09:51 AM] DerpyBat#1149
If it's the occasional thing people are creating specifically to stir up shit I see no problem with it.


[05-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Deleting things that are in poor taste that incite drama is something we've always had to do. The only reason you noticed this time was because it was topical.


[05-Jun-20 09:55 AM] DerpyBat#1149
I'm actually curious where the line is drawn


[05-Jun-20 09:55 AM] DerpyBat#1149
Since the plantation picture got left up


[05-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm still super mixed about that one


[05-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If it was drawn poorly it would probably be taken down


[05-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The line in this case is more handled on a case by case basis


[05-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Even considering the current events


[05-Jun-20 09:57 AM] DerpyBat#1149
I get that


[05-Jun-20 09:58 AM] DerpyBat#1149
Depends where the line is for parodies and the like


[05-Jun-20 09:58 AM] DerpyBat#1149
There's boatloads of stuff on the site for Aryanne and what not


[05-Jun-20 09:58 AM] DerpyBat#1149
Also *wow I actually posted in the politics channel* :wheeze:


[05-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Honestly when it comes to Aryanne. It's probably in poor taste but the events are largely a distant memory and don't cause that much drama, mostly because people just treat them as a universally hated joke.


[05-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's why we have terms like grammar nazi.


[05-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Slipstream/Boofy#6050
Of course then Derpi mods allow insults to stay up as long as it plays into their agenda

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[05-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If you think something is breaking the rules, report it and we can look into it.


[05-Jun-20 10:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If that was posted 2 hours ago, I doubt any of us have even seen it.


[05-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Crow#5457
every time I see someone talk about "the agenda", it reminds me heavily of the article detailing how belief in conspiracy theories is becoming its own religion in the US


[05-Jun-20 10:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

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The Prophecies of Q
American conspiracy theories are entering a dangerous new phase.
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[05-Jun-20 10:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those posts by UserAccount were deleted ~12h ago when they were reported


[05-Jun-20 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're going to get mad over something, at least try to not get mad over something someone elsewhere showed you and actually do your own research


[05-Jun-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
lol


[05-Jun-20 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/profiles/UserAccount

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UserAccount's profile - Derpibooru
Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[05-Jun-20 10:54 AM] Crow#5457
typed that out manually


[05-Jun-20 12:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSBZGv5wzK4

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Two Buffalo Police officers shove a man to the ground in front of C...
Video captured by WBFO on June 4, 2020 show two Buffalo police officers shoving a man to the ground during a protest in front of City Hall, causing an injury that left him bleeding from his head. The two officers have been suspended without pay and a full Internal Affairs inve...
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[05-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Buffalo PD initially put out a statement saying he "tripped and fell"


[05-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGUAHBFmjk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGUAHBFmjk
The death of George Floyd: What video shows about his final minutes
On May 25, 2020, George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man died after a white officer holding his knee on Floyd’s neck pinned him to the pavement while Floyd was in handcuffs. In the days that followed, public outrage grew over what some protestors and lawmakers said is another ca...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FMGUAHBFmjk/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit, youtube is censoring all videos having to do with george floyd's death


[05-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
redirects to <https://www.youtube.com/oops?unavail=1>


[05-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
it works in the embed though


[05-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8

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The New York Times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8
How George Floyd Was Killed in Police Custody | Visual Investigations
The Times has reconstructed the death of George Floyd on May 25. Security footage, witness videos and official documents show how a series of actions by officers turned fatal. (This video contains scenes of graphic violence.)

Subscribe: http://bit.ly/U8Ys7n
More from The New...
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[05-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
also redirects to <https://www.youtube.com/oops?unavail=1>


[05-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Crow#5457
embed also works


[05-Jun-20 01:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe just censored for violent scenes


[05-Jun-20 01:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it just directs me to log in to confirm age


[05-Jun-20 01:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess they are, like, snuff


[05-Jun-20 01:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, they're there, but have to log in and confirm you're over 18


[05-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
I'm logged in


[05-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Huh


[05-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I get

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[05-Jun-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/respectablelaw/status/1268750237935513600?s=21

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Respectable Lawyer (@RespectableLaw)
https://twitter.com/respectablelaw/status/1268750237935513600?s=21
Just a reminder that today's viral video of this elderly man bleeding on the sidewalk is video #282 in a thread of viral videos of unprovoked police brutality caught on camera in the last 96 hours. https://t.co/wcB2xVPJni
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[05-Jun-20 02:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Jun-20 02:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Seems like things are getting out of control


[05-Jun-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[05-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is wrong in this statement?


[05-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stocks-are-rallying-despite-nationwide-protests-thats-typical-11591349405

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/stocks-are-rallying-despite-nationwide-protests-thats-typical-11591349405
Stocks Are Rallying Despite Nationwide Protests. That’s Typical.
U.S. stocks have been on a tear, with investors seemingly looking past everything from rising tensions with China to the toll of a pandemic that has brought the global economy to a standstill.
https://images.wsj.net/im-194826/social


[05-Jun-20 02:45 PM] ononim#8141
https://grootpoepjeplasjehoofd.tumblr.com/post/619769693964779520/damn-lets-thank-the-police-for-taking-care-of

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Huge, Sharp, New
https://grootpoepjeplasjehoofd.tumblr.com/post/619769693964779520/damn-lets-thank-the-police-for-taking-care-of
Huge, Sharp, New
Damn let's thank the police for taking care of these outside agitator white anarchists disrupting a peaceful protest
https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qb9wiie9Ub1w04w2n_frame1.jpg


[05-Jun-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/george-floyd-protesters-face-masks-seized-movement-for-black-lives-2020-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/george-floyd-protesters-face-masks-seized-movement-for-black-lives-2020-6
Law enforcement mysteriously seized hundreds of face masks that wer...
The Movement for Black Lives says they spent tens of thousands of dollars on the face masks meant to protect demonstrators from COVID-19.
https://i.insider.com/5eda1fd45af6cc41f411e7b6?width=1200&format=jpeg


[05-Jun-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"mysteriously"


[05-Jun-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-letter-describing-peaceful-protesters-as-terrorists-2020-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-letter-describing-peaceful-protesters-as-terrorists-2020-6
Trump retweeted a letter describing peaceful protesters tear-gassed...
"They are terrorists using idle hate filled students to burn and destroy," Trump's ex-attorney John Dowd wrote of the demonstrators.
https://i.insider.com/5eda0e0e3ad861509543a643?width=1200&format=jpeg


[05-Jun-20 03:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like the word has lost its meaning


[05-Jun-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
The time of decadence is upon us. The time of universally held meaning is over. Choas and combat is upon us until we discover new meaning


[05-Jun-20 03:33 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/electoral-map-2020-election-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/electoral-map-2020-election-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html
The electoral map is tilting badly against Donald Trump right now
Amid the protests following the police killing of George Floyd and the ongoing fight against the coronavirus pandemic, something very important has been overlooked: President Donald Trump is now a decided underdog to reach the 270 electoral votes he needs to win a second term ...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170911135115-0911-2016-election-results-map-super-tease.jpg


[05-Jun-20 04:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Fuck


[05-Jun-20 04:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I want Trump reelected


[05-Jun-20 04:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:sad:


[05-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Good


[05-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/geeequinn/status/1268730470889426944?s=20

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kcp soundsystem (@geeequinn)
https://twitter.com/geeequinn/status/1268730470889426944?s=20
Are they recruiting him https://t.co/rdAOfj1HpL
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[05-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Big oof


[05-Jun-20 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-05/biden-says-10-15-are-not-very-good-people-campaign-update

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-05/biden-says-10-15-are-not-very-good-people-campaign-update
Biden Says 10-15% of Americans Are ‘Not Very Good People’: Campaign...
Presumed Democratic nominee Joe Biden said Thursday that 10 to 15% of Americans are “not very good people.”
https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iNg5M8hp0KsA/v0/1200x630.png


[05-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
He’s being too generous there


[05-Jun-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/twitter-trump-copyright-infringement-george-floyd-video-1234625976/

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Todd Spangler
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/twitter-trump-copyright-infringement-george-floyd-video-1234625976/
Twitter Pulls Down Trump Campaign Video About George Floyd’s Death ...
A video posted by Donald Trump’s 2020 election campaign — decrying civil unrest in the wake of the killing of George Floyd — was removed Thursday by Twitter, citing a copyright-in…
https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/donald-trump.jpg?w=1024


[05-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Deleted User#0000
Say what you will about POTUS Mr. Donald Trump, he's without a doubt the president America deserves.

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[05-Jun-20 05:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh shut up


[05-Jun-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this campaign ad is the worst kind of bullshit from him


[05-Jun-20 05:23 PM] Deleted User#0000
:^)


[05-Jun-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P40rSPTRKI here's the ad for anyoen who wants it, not sure why anyone would though :hopeless:

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Donald J Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P40rSPTRKI
Healing, Not Hatred
“We support the right of peaceful protesters, and we hear their pleas,” said President Trump. “I stand before you as a friend and ally to every American seeking justice and peace.”
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0P40rSPTRKI/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Jun-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully it gets copyright nuked from youtube as well


[05-Jun-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really wish his face anus would clench for once


[05-Jun-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/918373/white-house-now-surrounded-by-nearly-2-miles-fencing-barricades

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https://theweek.com/speedreads/918373/white-house-now-surrounded-by-nearly-2-miles-fencing-barricades
The White House is now surrounded by nearly 2 miles of fencing and ...
In the 72 hours since the Trump administration used tear gas and other nonlethal force to violently clear Lafayette Square of peaceful protesters before President Trump's walk to St. John's Church, 'the White House has been transformed into a veritable fortress,' The Washingto...
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-1241547132.jpg?itok=5MGKX46i


[05-Jun-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
#babygate


[05-Jun-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
How pathetic


[05-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/business/mark-cuban-presidential-bid-axe-files/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/business/mark-cuban-presidential-bid-axe-files/index.html
Mark Cuban was seriously weighing a run for president last month. H...
In the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, while many people were learning how to bake sourdough or plant a garden, Mark Cuban was considering a run for president. He even hired a pollster.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200604162347-04-mark-cuban-file-super-tease.jpg


[05-Jun-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you spend all your RTS ingame points on fortifications


[05-Jun-20 05:39 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P40rSPTRKI here's the ad for anyoen who wants it, not sure why anyone would though :hopeless:
@prism stryder(intexda) I am disgusted

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Donald J Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P40rSPTRKI
Healing, Not Hatred
“We support the right of peaceful protesters, and we hear their pleas,” said President Trump. “I stand before you as a friend and ally to every American seeking justice and peace.”
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0P40rSPTRKI/maxresdefault.jpg


[05-Jun-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still hoping it gets copyright nuked on youtube


[05-Jun-20 05:44 PM] illumnious#7938
I just want to fucking vomit, what the fuck am I looking at??????


[05-Jun-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a warped attempt to pretend he has empathy while also making threats in a soft tone to incite violence against the protestors


[05-Jun-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a monarchal fortress


[05-Jun-20 05:48 PM] illumnious#7938
abomination


[05-Jun-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hopes-george-floyd-is-looking-down-and-admiring-us-economy-2020-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hopes-george-floyd-is-looking-down-and-admiring-us-economy-2020-6
Trump suggests George Floyd is 'looking down' from heaven and appre...
"Hopefully George is looking down and seeing this is a great day for our country," Trump said of Floyd, who was killed ten days ago.
https://i.insider.com/5eda6551f0f4195f1b7ac456?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[05-Jun-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh yes, i'm sure he's looking proudly upon you as you assault his friends and family while fortifying yourself from the american people.


[05-Jun-20 06:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1268920167968444416

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Aaron Rupar (@atrupar)
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1268920167968444416
Trump on George Floyd, who was killed by Minneapolis cops: "Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying, 'this is a great thing that's happening for our country.' This is a great day for him." https://t.co/LDl4V9Phzg
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[05-Jun-20 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine being a scriptwriter that got told their story was just too absurd for hollywood


[05-Jun-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Clown timeline, clown president, clown country

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[05-Jun-20 06:43 PM] jimm#1439
still rather live here than anywhere else regardless of recent issues


[05-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/5/21281327/call-of-duty-black-lives-matter-update-modern-warfare

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https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/5/21281327/call-of-duty-black-lives-matter-update-modern-warfare
Call of Duty adds screen that says Black Lives Matter
"We stand against the racism and injustice our Black community endures."
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[05-Jun-20 06:47 PM] PwnyPony#6185
COD Gamers on suicide watch.


[05-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/kpop-bts-blackpink-fans-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/kpop-bts-blackpink-fans-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
K-pop fans are taking over 'White Lives Matter' and other anti-Blac...
In the wake of George Floyd's death, K-pop fans haven't been using their power to rack up view counts on BTS' or Blackpink's music videos, but rather, to rally around the Black Lives Matter movement and drown out the voices of those against it.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200604140521-01-k-pop-bts-fans-super-tease.jpg


[05-Jun-20 07:25 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Looks like Donny finally got his retarded wall


[05-Jun-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/06/trump-administration-asks-supreme-court-make-legal-ban-sex-couples-adopting/

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Trump administration asks Supreme Court to make it legal to ban sam...
A Catholic adoption agency refused to work with LGBTQ parents, so the city terminated its contract. Trump's lawyers say that's religious discrimination...
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[05-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2003/04/11/Rumsfeld-Looting-is-transition-to-freedom/63821050097983/

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Rumsfeld: Looting is transition to freedom
U.S. forces should not be blamed for the lawlessness and looting in Baghdad as it is a natural consequence of the transition from a dictatorship to a free country, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Friday at the Pentagon.
https://cdnph.upi.com/sv/ph/og/upi/63821050097983/2003/1/2ec5e3edf54eabc7cbc5c5dd78fe3d06/v1.5/Rumsfeld-Looting-is-transition-to-freedom.jpg


[05-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Raptorshy#6268
>2003
Hah


[05-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's beautiful


[05-Jun-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/theepictheymer/status/1267954150157017094

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Mae says BLM ✿ (@theepictheymer)
https://twitter.com/theepictheymer/status/1267954150157017094
A THREAD:

some people still seem to be having trouble believing that police are instigating violence at the protests, so i compiled together 51 images/videos and 6 news reports of police instigating and encouraging violence or being cruel to people who are no threat to them....
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[05-Jun-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
> The time of decadence is upon us. The time of universally held meaning is over. Choas and combat is upon us until we discover new meaning
time to worship ponies


[05-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/501258-trump-signs-order-removing-environmental-review-for-major-projects

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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/501258-trump-signs-order-removing-environmental-review-for-major-projects
Trump signs order removing environmental review of major projects
President Trump signed an executive order Thursday evening that would waive requirements under a suite of environmental laws, a move the administration says will boost the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_trumpresearchdiscredit_052220getty_0.jpg


[05-Jun-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
> will boost the economy amid the coronavirus pandemic.
is construction automated yet
googling only gives me "X ways automation would disrupt the industry" + bunch of tech bro talk


[05-Jun-20 08:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think environmental reviews are or were all that big of a cost tbh


[05-Jun-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Yes, removing this red tape will sustainably give us a lot of money and is a decent thing our economy can rely on"


[05-Jun-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Our economy can rely entirely on adding and removing red tape depending on the time period"


[05-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
The "cost" is "we didn't get kikkbakks from big oil because some stupid natives told us that some bird needs the land intact"


[05-Jun-20 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501361-nyt-editorial-board-tells-de-blasio-to-open-your-eyes-the-police-are-out

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/501361-nyt-editorial-board-tells-de-blasio-to-open-your-eyes-the-police-are-out
NYT editorial board tells de Blasio to 'open your eyes, the police ...
The New York Times editorial board slammed New York Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) in a Friday op-ed over his defense of the New York Police Department (NYPD) after multiple reported instances of them using excessive
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_deblasio_041620getty.jpg


[05-Jun-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Disband the NYPD.


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If I were de Blasio I'd just point out they ran an op-ed for someone calling for police to give protestors "No quarter"


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bar any officer from any force in the US from coming on to the new one for a decade.


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remove de Blasio as mayor.


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Burn it all to the ground.


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"No quarter" means "execute people who are surrendering" btw


[05-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a war crime


[05-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Where was this op-ed?


[05-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tom Cotton's?


[05-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html

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By Tom Cotton
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html
Opinion | Tom Cotton: Send In the Troops
The nation must restore order. The military stands ready.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/03/opinion/03Cotton/merlin_172207140_9bd124fb-df25-4d6e-9dde-85172b0ee9dc-facebookJumbo.jpg


[05-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[05-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They really shouldn't just let anyone in gov't do op-eds...


[05-Jun-20 09:20 PM] jimm#1439
why aren't there any "protect guns not kids" bumper stickers
it'd be a good counter-meme


[05-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
You mean a bumper stikker that says to protect the very source of danger while not protecting the thing we cherish?


[05-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Might as well go all the way to "No Lives Matter"


[05-Jun-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't they be able to do op eds


[05-Jun-20 09:24 PM] jimm#1439
to protect rights before protecting anything else


[05-Jun-20 09:26 PM] jimm#1439
the original stickers say the reverse


[05-Jun-20 09:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@jimm  dont worry, in the future, the guns *are* their kids via AI


[05-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/501370-media-executives-personalities-eyeing-possible-run-for-new-york-city-mayor

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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/501370-media-executives-personalities-eyeing-possible-run-for-new-york-city-mayor
Media executives, personalities eyeing possible run for New York Ci...
Several media executives and on-air personalities have announced or are reportedly considering runs for New York City mayor in 2021, including CNN President Jeff Zucker, billionaire businessman and radio talk show host John Catsimatidis and Guardi
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/outdoorsnewyork.jpg


[05-Jun-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
> Jeff Zucker
Almost read that as Zucker(berg)


[05-Jun-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Zucc Number Two


[05-Jun-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/KbBDHr2

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https://imgur.com/gallery/KbBDHr2
https://i.imgur.com/Gs0eKOFh.jpg


[05-Jun-20 10:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lancet-retracts-large-study-hydroxychloroquine-n1225091

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https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lancet-retracts-large-study-hydroxychloroquine-n1225091
The Lancet retracts large study on hydroxychloroquine
"A first-year statistics major could tell you about major flaws in the design of the analysis," one expert said.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_22/3312881/200417-plaquinol-hydroxychloroquine-ew-1113a_b68789960f723d4cbf3f5ac57dad84f9.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[05-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd figure they would be more careful with studies.


[05-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[05-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
A loooot of kids' shows right now take place in worlds without police forces.


[05-Jun-20 10:18 PM] jlun2#8758
outside paw patrol, I thought most police forces in kid shows were hilariously inept


[05-Jun-20 10:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it's harder to list the ones that show police existing.


[05-Jun-20 10:19 PM] jlun2#8758
and I only knew of paw patrol because chinese artist


[05-Jun-20 10:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Rubber bullets were "tested" in Northern Ireland then again in Israel and again in ex-soviet states and China and have been proven lethal every time. UK keeps selling them as less than lethal and cops/army keep shooting people in the head with them.


[05-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[05-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
fucking disney


[05-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao what


[05-Jun-20 11:19 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Don't wanna upset china.


[05-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I knew of the Star Wars poster, but *Black Panther*


[05-Jun-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
so...anyone calling them out for that?


[05-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking remember when England broke with the Catholic church so the king could do whatever the fukk he wanted without anyone telling him otherwise so he could behead his wives when they didn't tell him in advance they'd had sex with other people, and along the way, the very idea of confessing your sins and being forgiven and given group help was tossed out the window?


[05-Jun-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
because thats' even worse than other company's empty message


[05-Jun-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'd wager that has something to do with UK/US culture of burning witches instead of maybe informing people on how to fix things.


[05-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Salem Witch Trials were pure teenage rebellion


[05-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of girls sick of the strict standards/working for non-family


[05-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
You may note that many Catholics in the US still support the Democratic party


[05-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"There are more bronies than there are Catholic leftists"


[05-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They may want gays not to hav rights etc., but they aren't down with setting immigrants on fire or whatever new insanity is put out by protestants.


[05-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are a loooot of Catholic leftists


[05-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are practically no Protestant ones.


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
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Nothing makes my spirit fly higher than a black American that is AWAKE, educated, and not falling for the media’s narrative. 

Let’s goo! 

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[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Catholic leftists are just stukk in an odd spot cause the church still says gays and condoms aren't okay.


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What if


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's more to life than your job


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not everything is jobs


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protestant leftists would hav to disagree with basically everything their local priest says.


[05-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
With a few exceptions for some weird denominations that suddenly rejected Calvinism.


[05-Jun-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[05-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people don't think their job is everything, then you can't hav feudalism or modern capitalism, @Itsthinking


[05-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only that, there's a worrying decrease in leisure time


[05-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a leisure industry that basically only exists because people say it does, even though leisure time is miniscule


[05-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Work never ends.


[05-Jun-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
isn't that the "Silicon Vally Utopia"


[05-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley wants you to hav leisure time, but only created by your employer.


[05-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
They basically want private housing to stop existing.


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You liv in your vehicle or the office, choose one.


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
No job or car? Robots will be out to make sure you leave or die.


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie what are you on where every protestnat church is sudenly calvinist


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] jlun2#8758
I really want Silicon Valley to become Detroit


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The US.


[05-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Protestants here are nuts and massive.


[05-Jun-20 11:42 PM] ononim#8141
I mean yean but pretty even that has a lot of lutherans and Not!Anglicans, esp in the north


[05-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't politically relevant.


[05-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
They like to just sit on the sidelines thinking "hmm, gay marriage stopped? Cool"


[05-Jun-20 11:43 PM] jlun2#8758
no gay "nuns" for me :sad:


[06-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
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It's absolutely WILD that the thing stopping walmart from selling guns all these years was the idea of black protestors having them https://t.co/Hmpmdt5FLp
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[06-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[06-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Pirill @jlun2 
As I said, this turns into deaf trying to prove to a blind person.


[06-Jun-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
the "warning teens not to post regretful/controversal things"?


[06-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I don't parttake in politics discussions, since it is hard to prove.


[06-Jun-20 12:45 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The problem with young people that their wisdom/experience is nil. It is the same, where you can find kids playing games and doing cruel things, but mature person will sympatize with in-game life.
 @jlun2


[06-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
politics should be 21+


[06-Jun-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
not just politics, but eh


[06-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And it is not enough 21+. I have seen uni students take things into their own hands on social media without real knowing how the world works, ending up either being useful idiots or getting targeted.


[06-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There was one case here, where students started blabbing about history and how unfair it was, big guys in politics turned this into weapon against target demographic and created tensions between the demographics


[06-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/LeafCam/status/1268999261108211718

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Not cool MikeZ https://t.co/7OcpRJAURn
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[06-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Welp I’m not buying another Skullgirls anything any time soon


[06-Jun-20 12:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:zeeb:


[06-Jun-20 12:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
bruh


[06-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/americans-are-drinking-bleach-and-dunking-food-in-it-to-prevent-covid-19/

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Americans are drinking bleach and dunking food in it to prevent COV...
Thirty-nine percent of surveyed people admitted to at least one risky practice.
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[06-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
_Thirty nine percent????_


[06-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That solves unemployment problem on other hand...


[06-Jun-20 01:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
SkullGirls in now cancelled. Them's Fighin' Herds is the only online fighting game left now.


[06-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[06-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>systeic


[06-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Meme creators need to spell-check more often


[06-Jun-20 01:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Microsoft paint is wack how they don't let you go back and edit the text you made.


[06-Jun-20 01:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] so, want to make money selling bleach flavored food? (not with real bleach)


[06-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
> The most common risky practice was washing fruits, vegetables, and other foods in bleach solutions. A total of 19 percent said they did this. From there, 18 percent said they used household cleaners—not hand soap—to wash their hands and/or other body parts. Ten percent said they misted themselves with household cleaners and disinfecting products.


[06-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
what does bleach taste like?


[06-Jun-20 02:09 AM] illumnious#7938
death my dear


[06-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
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[06-Jun-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
kind of like soap but with a nasty after taste that lingers a long time.


[06-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
> Unsurprisingly, 25 percent of respondents also reported unpleasant health effects from exposures to cleaning products, such as dizziness, skin irritation, nausea, and breathing problems.


[06-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
UNSURPRISINGLY

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[06-Jun-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
why on earth would they use the gif format for that lol


[06-Jun-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not animated


[06-Jun-20 02:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
⭐


[06-Jun-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fun fact: This is actually what the GIF format was *originally designed for*


[06-Jun-20 02:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We've been saddled with people trying to make full video work in the format for ages simply because no one had decided to force a better standard, and it really was never meant to do more than a couple frames


[06-Jun-20 02:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I know I use gif when screenshotting if colour in not an issue but filesize and image is.


[06-Jun-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 02:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Operation black shield but it's white.


[06-Jun-20 02:27 AM] byte[]#2610
"Cauc bloc"

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[06-Jun-20 02:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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The Master Of The Universe
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Southpark - Operation human shield.
Support my bro's:
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[06-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How much of this "Lady G" thing is a shitpost with a reference I don't get and how much of it is possibly legit?


[06-Jun-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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Please familiarize yourself with allied forces.

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[06-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
god fucking damn, how do you effectively communicate with someone who says that protesters are "guilty by association" with people burning/looting shit


[06-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
he says that if they don't want to get beaten up by police unprovoked, they should just go home


[06-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't.


[06-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/da-investigating-buffalo-cops-shove-old-man

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57 Buffalo cops resign from response team after officers suspended ...
The Erie County District Attorney’s Office announced Friday it will be investigating an incident in which two New York police officers were caught on camera shoving a septuagenarian to the ground at a protest on police brutality.
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[06-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Show him that


[06-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
57 cops resigned not because two uniformed thugs in arms cracked a 75 year old man's skull open


[06-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rather


[06-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the two cops were suspended over it


[06-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
they're still police officers


[06-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
they just aren't on the quick response team anymore


[06-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
the fox news article is misleading in the title like that


[06-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should be in prison for membership in an armed gang


[06-Jun-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thinking about that made me think of the differences - the visual differences - between the people saying the wrong thing in response to the protest and the right thing in response


[06-Jun-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But perhaps not the stereotype you're thinking of. I wonder...


[06-Jun-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...just how different would our political landscape be if anyone with a BMI over 30 vanished overnight?


[06-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be way worse.


[06-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd hav a mix of successful white people, young people, and starving people.


[06-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
There'd be the exact same concerns except minorities would be reduced.


[06-Jun-20 03:15 AM] avirus#0344
Best (worst) part: The violent riots completely blow people's favor against police brutality. Nothing will change. Optics are always priority 0.


[06-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Today in #politcs, WingbeatPony commits a genocide


[06-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only 1? That's barely half a Glimglam.


[06-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, if this Lindsey Graham shit is true I'll need to take a day off work to laugh


[06-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
lindsey graham shit?


[06-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Lady%20G%22

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"Lady G" - Twitter Search
4h ago @jeremynewberger tweeted: "I don't care if Lady G is gay. I love ga.." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
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[06-Jun-20 03:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
No Fat Chicks
The next political movement.


[06-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently some male escorts are saying Graham pays them for sex under NDA


[06-Jun-20 03:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> The violent riots completely blow people's favor against police brutality. 
I just hope it doesn't mean 4 more years of orange man


[06-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/d-c-mayor-bowser-has-black-lives-matter-painted-street-n1225746

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D.C. mayor has huge 'Black Lives Matter' name painted on street lea...
The act was intended to honor protesters who had peacefully assembled earlier this week.
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[06-Jun-20 03:22 AM] avirus#0344
It will. Almost assuredly. He's not the primary source of woe by a long shot, however.


[06-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> People were seen painting the words "Black Lives Matter" on Friday morning in large block letters in yellow across 16th street, which leads to Lafayette Square and the White House. Bowser tweeted later in the morning that that particular section of 16th Street has been renamed "Black Lives Matter Plaza."


[06-Jun-20 03:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
did someone draw a cat in the B?


[06-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Cloudy#3004
certainly looks like it


[06-Jun-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
🐱


[06-Jun-20 03:25 AM] avirus#0344
Leftists are fundamentally incapable of actual protest, change, or in most cases nonviolence. This next generation has no clue how to direct a country or address unfairness without centralized control.
1. Move out of the city.
2. Grow a garden.
3. Become as independent as possible.

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[06-Jun-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Big brain time


[06-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1269050348653731840?s=20

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https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1269050348653731840?s=20
Here's the graphic as it aired.

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[06-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
HOLY FUCKING SHIT FOX


[06-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
THIS IS LOW EVEN FOR YOU


[06-Jun-20 03:26 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like libertarian deep end to me.


[06-Jun-20 03:27 AM] avirus#0344
Not even memeing you. This will continue to escalate for 10 years, **at the very least**. Monetary reset is the endgame.


[06-Jun-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
considering that it's been escalating since forever, yes, I don't expect that to stop


[06-Jun-20 03:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump starts going around shooting black people for the economy.


[06-Jun-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
I have the whitest nation--truly--the best, whitest country in the world


[06-Jun-20 03:29 AM] avirus#0344
Q4 is when the economy will truly break, stocks will probably collapse when the magical thinking disappears


[06-Jun-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
📉


[06-Jun-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[06-Jun-20 03:30 AM] avirus#0344
Food & chemical distribution may begin to falter. Grow a garden for some basics if you can. Potatoes are cheap, money is worthless.


[06-Jun-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato


[06-Jun-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
what do you say to this comment


[06-Jun-20 03:32 AM] avirus#0344
Stocks are soaring because they are propped up by federal printing. Q4 it comes to a head and finally breaks.


[06-Jun-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1268889062414450690

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Internet, please proceed with doing what you must do on this front. https://t.co/qJ7BJUl4En
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[06-Jun-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Wilson going in the for kill as usual


[06-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or biden has a stroke and wall street goes wild


[06-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not like Biden's anti-wall street, but, Trump


[06-Jun-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
most recent post on TDB https://www.thedailybeast.com/generalissimo-trump-exits-bunker-for-pathetic-photo-op

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/generalissimo-trump-exits-bunker-for-pathetic-photo-op
Generalissimo Trump Exits Bunker for Pathetic Photo Op at St. John’...
The last few days have been an audition of sorts for America’s favorite wannabe autocrat. It’s not going well.
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[06-Jun-20 03:38 AM] avirus#0344
Keep in mind that all of the infinitely extending unemployment checks are all either taken out at a deficit on your tax dollar or are printed out at the expense of redistributing wealth from people who have saved $.


[06-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think anyone here doesn't realize the market's hot air is going to run out and when it does it'll cause a panic


[06-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
you have to realize that several people here have probably posted on leftypol and many are perfectly ok with redistribution of wealth by violent seizure


[06-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
know your audience


[06-Jun-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And a not-insignificant number who believe that taxes are inherently a form of wealth redistribution


[06-Jun-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One that has been redistributing it in the *wrong direction* for a considerable amount of time


[06-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
So was Fox News saying that investors should be happy that blakks are being murdered?


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause like the only other reason to phrase it that way is to say that blakks should murder Wall Street.


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"We gotta murder more to keep the market going"

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[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fox news: the "i'm just sayin'" of infographics


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sacrifice to the line just got too real


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't even know how to comment on that, byte


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I posted a Bloomberg article about the same topic earlier that was... worded a lot better


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
he called you cheap


[06-Jun-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
>:V


[06-Jun-20 03:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
oh


[06-Jun-20 03:42 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:reppy:


[06-Jun-20 03:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1268798861147062272

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@kateemma22 @ursula_wanza @dodgers57719689 @MarcusBrodie6 @Phil_Lewis_ @jsatz23 @realDonaldTrump #JusticeForGeorgeFloyd  https://t.co/JD1JVXee5U
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[06-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the gov't is using my tax money to subsidize people, then the problem with that is not that they are using it to subsidize people, but that it should be the tax money of these mega millionnaires who probably tasty very good cooked well with sauce.


[06-Jun-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Witch_Taunter/status/1269065723759988737

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WitchTaunter (@Witch_Taunter)
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#babygate
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Twitter


[06-Jun-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
0.5 A Presses


[06-Jun-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.insider.com/president-minneapolis-police-union-wore-white-power-patch-lawsuit-2020-5

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A 2007 lawsuit said the president of the Minneapolis police union w...
The police killing of George Floyd has brought a history of racial tensions within the city, and the police department, to the surface.
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[06-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, aerial view https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/192466095309979659/718593198544519248/image0.jpg

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[06-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
wonder what font that is


[06-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would be hilarious if DC gets sued for not licensing a font


[06-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably a generic one used for gov't road signs.


[06-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DC either needs to be a state or be given back to MD


[06-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Make "DC" just certain buildings


[06-Jun-20 03:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Looks like Noto Sans


[06-Jun-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
they really nailed the typography though, whatever font it is. props 👌


[06-Jun-20 03:53 AM] byte[]#2610
kerning is perfect, especially for road art at that scale


[06-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And now conservatives are mad they can't just break the 3rd amendment when it's convenient to them


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the third...


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That case got kicked out on qualified immunity


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
wow, you never hear about the third


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No SCOTUS caselaw


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One appeals court case


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Military can't take over private property


[06-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
English forces regularly occupied homes to barrack its troops


[06-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
3rd Amendment does apply to National Guard, and to mere residents (not owners)


[06-Jun-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
3rd also says that militiamen can't occupy residences, right?


[06-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think "The hotels need to be closed because of a pandemic, the mayor needs you out" counts


[06-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Without consent


[06-Jun-20 03:55 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't specify


[06-Jun-20 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
> No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


[06-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
3rd Amendment supporters are very powerful


[06-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quartering was a big issue bakk in the day.


[06-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That and 21st


[06-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Troops would just show up and be like FEED US


[06-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Could destroy a town.


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also "giving quarter" was a thing you would do if you wanted to be *lenient* on enemy forces.


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
you might think that a bill of rights that previously guaranteed the rights of states to form private militas would specify in literally the adjacent amendment if militiamen were considered soldiers


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you know, not enuff food to go around, kill 'em all.


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hence "give no quarter"


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think militiamen are considered soldiers.


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
National Guardsmen are


[06-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a loose interpretation


[06-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 2nd amendment's original versions are where the conscientous objector thing came from.


[06-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And SCOTUS applies that to soldiers.


[06-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the 2nd amendment is about militiamen.


[06-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So by current SCOTUS logic, militamen are soldiers.


[06-Jun-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I have to admit though that sometimes I wonder why we talk so much about law here when the president has more or less stopped following it


[06-Jun-20 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Probably because it's a good metric by which to determine his lawlessness


[06-Jun-20 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
his, but more importantly, everyone else's


[06-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Never forget your enemy's violations.


[06-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are useful for when a rekkoning comes.


[06-Jun-20 04:03 AM] byte[]#2610
there are too many to remember


[06-Jun-20 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially with Barr et al playing at historical revisionism of the highest caliber


[06-Jun-20 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought William Johnson was the brightest philosophical mind in the constitutional congress


[06-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the point btw is so when people think Trump is a shining angel, you can bury them in facts to the contrary.


[06-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they don't get it thru their thikk skull, you've got them buried and nobody will respect them.


[06-Jun-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
except the 42% who are living in the bubble


[06-Jun-20 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(If you don't know who that is, that's the *one* guy present who had been a loyalist. I found that out when I decided to look up just how many tories were around to draft the constitution, what with Scalia-esque interpretation of the document to be a "product of its time" and immutable)


[06-Jun-20 04:07 AM] jimm#1439
<https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/gx9pwu/the_lapd_shot_a_homeless_man_in_a_wheelchair_in/>


[06-Jun-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/6bwhvkcyt4351.jpg

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[06-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should be in r/ParForTheCourse tbh


[06-Jun-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
"With the right lawyer, he'll never be homeless again."


[06-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
ROFL @Teaspoon, I linked that article you to link to the "guilty by association" dude, he literally deleted the server's politics channel because of that

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[06-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10


[06-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
I also told him that guilty by association punishments are practically unconstitutional, he said that "it's just a piece of paper, it doesn't work like that in real life"


[06-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
and that I should take a psychology course


[06-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.encyclopedia.com/politics/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/guilt-association

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Guilt By Association | Encyclopedia.com
GUILT BY ASSOCIATIONThe United States Supreme Court frequently proclaims that guilt by association has no place in our constitutional system (for example, Schneiderman v. United States, 1943; wieman v. updegraff, 1952).  Source for information on Guilt By Association: Encyclop...


[06-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
> The United States Supreme Court frequently proclaims that guilt by association has no place in our constitutional system (for example, Schneiderman v. United States, 1943; wieman v. updegraff, 1952). Sanctions imposed for membership in a group are said to be characteristic of primitive cultures, or elements of the early common law long since eliminated with prohibitions against such punishments as attaint and forfeiture.


[06-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the "the constitution can't stop me because it's a piece of paper and not a white man above me in the hierarchy with a gun" argument.


[06-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The trusty conservative last line of defense against having to listen to reason.


[06-Jun-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
hey guess what I took a psychology course too


[06-Jun-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
and we only discussed the bystander effect as anything that could possibly be relevant


[06-Jun-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
which is, literally, the opposite of guilt by association


[06-Jun-20 04:22 AM] jimm#1439
this doesn't apply to the felony murder rule for some reason


[06-Jun-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
two other cops were standing on george floyd's back to pin him down (even though he was already handcuffed) and the one who initially tried to pull chauvin off was unsuccessful


[06-Jun-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
guilt by association does not apply


[06-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh the one that "killed him the most" was probably the guy in the middle


[06-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
90kg of cop on your back is going to make if pretty difficult to breath


[06-Jun-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
90kg? that's before the box of donuts


[06-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, Buffalo police being corrupt isn't new https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvaqa3/buffalo-cop-loses-job-and-pension-after-she-intervenes-with-fellow-officer-choking-a-suspect

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Buffalo Cop Loses Job And Pension After She Intervenes With Fellow ...
Former Officer Cariol Horne lost her job and was charged with obstruction after she intervened while a fellow officer punched and choked an arrested man.
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[06-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk female cop tried to stop a white male cop from choking an arrested, cuffed guy to death


[06-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
he broke her nose


[06-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
she got fired and lost her pension


[06-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dept. made up a fake story about what happened, that the guy's own testimony contradicted.


[06-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note https://news.wbfo.org/post/protester-and-former-bpd-officer-gives-her-firsthand-account-police-brutality

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Protester and former BPD officer gives her firsthand account of pol...
One of the people involved in Thursday's long march for racial justice is a former Buffalo police officer, fired short of her pension for trying to stop
https://news.wbfo.org/sites/wbfo/files/styles/medium/public/202006/mike.jpg


[06-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy she stopped


[06-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
later eventually got put in jail for attakking four guys during an arrest.


[06-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/06/joe-biden-clinches-democratic-presidential-nomination-2020-election/5310225002/

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It's official: Joe Biden has clinched the Democratic nomination for...
In early April, Biden became the presumptive nominee after Sen. Bernie Sanders suspended his presidential campaign.
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[06-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He only got 8 months.


[06-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
4 of it under house arrest.


[06-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only takes running for president three times to get the nomination I guess


[06-Jun-20 05:00 AM] jimm#1439
with your opponents illegally taken off the ballot in major locations


[06-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
New York is ridiculously corrupt.


[06-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I stand by my belief that if Democrats picked Biden in '88 he would have won.


[06-Jun-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/718662263581573210/aa.png

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[06-Jun-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
amazon warehouse on fire


[06-Jun-20 05:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/us/amazon-redlands-fire-trnd/index.html

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Fire tears through Amazon distribution center in Redlands, California
A warehouse that operates as an Amazon distribution center went up in flames Friday morning after a three-alarm fire broke out, engulfing the entire building.
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[06-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Midknight#9798
Somebody call Guinness. There's a new world record for "biggest dumpsterfire"


[06-Jun-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/05/protests-washington-dc-federal-agents-law-enforcement-302551

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The Story Behind Bill Barr’s Unmarked Federal Agents
The motley assortment of police currently occupying Washington, D.C., is a window into the vast, complicated, obscure world of federal law enforcement.
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[06-Jun-20 05:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, most of them were prison riot guards


[06-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Feels like we're hurtling towards a branch of either Judge Dredd or Handmaid's Tale timelines


[06-Jun-20 05:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> Handmaid's Tale 
> After a staged attack that killed the President of the United States and most of Congress, a radical political group called the "Sons of Jacob" used quasi-Christian ideology to launch a revolution.
pls no?


[06-Jun-20 06:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/LCRWnews/status/1269098948972523520

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ATTACK AND DETHRONE GOD
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[06-Jun-20 06:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently fox news thinks leftists can attack and dethrone god


[06-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like the plot to a new DMC game


[06-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which god


[06-Jun-20 06:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well considering it;s fox news, probably RA


[06-Jun-20 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe anubis


[06-Jun-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
>RA


[06-Jun-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 06:25 AM] illumnious#7938
I fucking hate FOX right now


[06-Jun-20 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/05/deeply-disturbing-new-york-supreme-court-judge-rules-protesters-can-be-detained

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'Deeply Disturbing': New York Supreme Court Judge Rules Protesters ...
"This is suspension of habeas corpus, it is unconstitutional," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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[06-Jun-20 06:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/exclusive-two-buffalo-police-ert-members-say-resignation-was-not-in-solidarity-with-suspended-officers

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Two officers with Buffalo Police's voluntary ERT assignment talk with 7 Eyewitness News to refute claims the team's resignation was done in solidarity with suspended officers.
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[06-Jun-20 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
> A New York State Supreme Court judge on Thursday rejected a petition seeking the immediate release of hundreds of protesters who had been held by the New York Police Department for more than 24 hours, ruling that extraordinary circumstances justify indefinite detention.
rip. given the protestors color, prob life long


[06-Jun-20 06:50 AM] byte[]#2610
literally unconstitutional


[06-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It feels that's been said a lot for the last few years with it having no real weight


[06-Jun-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[06-Jun-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/718645798732169276


[06-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
wonder if they plan on justifying it by saying that we're in a "civil war-like situation"


[06-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
since lincoln also suspended habeus corpus unconstitutionally


[06-Jun-20 06:59 AM] illumnious#7938
> apparently fox news thinks leftists can attack and dethrone god
@prism stryder(intexda)  that’s comes to show you FOX News on crack


[06-Jun-20 07:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/derek-chauvin-accused-fraudulently-voting-florida-despite-living-minnesota-1509109


[06-Jun-20 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 07:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ianiskool/status/1268915176461524995

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[06-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9zRQijCN5w

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[06-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
linked it in #general-discussion last night, but this is basically the mood of the US right now


[06-Jun-20 11:15 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/06/03/business/03reuters-usa-trade-brazil.html

Their argument is that it Bolsonaro's government had shown a "complete disregard for basic human rights." When 4 policemen cowardly held down George Floyd and disregard his basic Human rights.

I didn’t knew hypocrites were made part of US government. Sure Brasil has it’s upd and downs, corruption, police brutality also part of our culture and racism too, but compared to that scenario with George, it's less likely to end in death unless you’re from the city of Rio de Janeiro

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[06-Jun-20 11:16 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Where the most corrupt branch of the military police allows most of its brutality to happen especially with folks who are from the Favelas and are deemed "unsociable and bandits" even by society itself from middle class


[06-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363985277603151873/718589851431337994/everyonesblamingme.webm

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[06-Jun-20 11:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 11:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine using so much tear gas you fucking run out


[06-Jun-20 11:24 AM] Crow#5457
@NaturalNat🇯🇵, the US house of representatives is one of the few power structures within the US government still trying to resist the US president, it's just hobbled by the fact that the other half of the legislative branch (the senate) is run by someone who has decided to completely shut everything that could even inconvenience the president down


[06-Jun-20 11:25 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Wait even in US? I heard on Hungary


[06-Jun-20 11:26 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], where is that from?


[06-Jun-20 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
mastodon


[06-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/06/portlands-mayor-bars-portland-police-use-of-sonic-sound-boom-as-crowd-control-device-comes-under-scrutiny.html

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Mayor Ted Wheeler bars Portland police use of loud warning sounds, ...
By Friday night, the mayor told protesters his team would move to adopt a 30-day moratorium on tear gas, after learning of Seattle's decision earlier in the day.
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[06-Jun-20 11:28 AM] Crow#5457
is mastodon worth getting? apparently it was having problems with nazis last year


[06-Jun-20 11:28 AM] byte[]#2610
mastodon is a federated social network


[06-Jun-20 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
individual nodes can choose to host whatever faction of users they desire


[06-Jun-20 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
and white/blacklist other nodes


[06-Jun-20 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
it is not "one entity"


[06-Jun-20 11:29 AM] byte[]#2610
in the way twitter is


[06-Jun-20 11:30 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Mastodon? Sounds familiar


[06-Jun-20 11:30 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Oh wait that’s where I followed some of my favorite audio maker


[06-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Synfag#9241
if philomena supports ActivityPub protocol... :wheeze:


[06-Jun-20 11:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it has no reason to


[06-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Synfag#9241
all I could think off is for same functionality as an RSS feed
I've seen blogs do that where they only implement the output part of the ActivityPub protocol so that mastodon/pleroma/activitypub instance accounts can follow that blog as if they are following a mastodon/pleroma/activitypub profile


[06-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Synfag#9241
but yeah, there's no reason for philomena to have that


[06-Jun-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[06-Jun-20 02:05 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1269071298426277889

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Imagine thinking it's bad to physically put myself between my constituents and the police that were attacking them, and demand answers. https://t.co/zC79ttud1h
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[06-Jun-20 02:26 PM] Crow#5457
(response to this) https://twitter.com/RockyTop_VA/status/1269069434175524866

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@carterforva Speaking of unhinged, check out Lee J. Carter yelling obscenities at the police.
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[06-Jun-20 02:26 PM] Crow#5457
this dude would've cheered on the tank at tiananmen square


[06-Jun-20 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/06/police-violence-protests-us-george-floyd

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[06-Jun-20 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, I just found out that a nearby city I used to live in rescinded a curfew that no one was ever told about and wasn't enforced


[06-Jun-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
Apparently nobody understood the graph


[06-Jun-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
:sad:


[06-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] maybe if you post it in #nsfw-general-discussion, it will spark more interest


[06-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:nut:


[06-Jun-20 02:39 PM] Crow#5457
what, that nazis are gay?


[06-Jun-20 02:39 PM] byte[]#2610
It's definitely politics material


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow the joke is that alt righters are into traps


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a fairly well known chan meme


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
that's what I just said lol


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've seen it around before


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
that future conservatives will be super gay


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Did nazis find out what traps were or did Traps find out what nazis were?


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] byte[]#2610
well, Lindsey Graham isn't helping the cause :twismug:


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
but that current conservatives are closeted gays


[06-Jun-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[06-Jun-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
it's no wonder he likes eating trump's ass so much

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[06-Jun-20 02:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@PwnyPony probably those who are into traps get accused of being nazis, and they start wondering why


[06-Jun-20 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
oh, it isn't confirmed, just a rumor based on what a gay porn star said


[06-Jun-20 02:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I'd rather be interested in scientific research on whether traps are gay or not.


[06-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
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when i was arrested they ziptied me without taking off my backpack, & then 3 officers came over to try & take it off while my hands were tied (which is impossible, the straps don't unclip) & they were all like "IT'S NOT WORKING :(" so they just left it on....lol fucking idiot...
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[06-Jun-20 03:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Scoot's VA I should add


[06-Jun-20 04:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I hope that all this chaos that goes on in the USA stays in the USA. But I feel sorry for all you moderate horse fuckers out in the USA.


[06-Jun-20 04:36 PM] Moon Flower#6088
*~~Moon is not tipsy and sleep deprived.~~*


[06-Jun-20 04:51 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053

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[06-Jun-20 05:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Today's episode of Welcome to Florida: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-candidate-alleges-voter-fraud-derek-chauvin-20200605-6hdffv6huvglrmgdpfc5krthym-story.html

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Lawyer says ex-Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin illegally voted in...
A candidate running for Supervisor of Elections in Pinellas County submitted a letter to State Attorney Aramis Ayala Friday alleging Derek Chauvin, the Minneapolis ex-cop accused of killing George Floyd, illegally voted in Florida during the 2016 and 2018 elections.
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[06-Jun-20 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
voter fucking fraud nigga


[06-Jun-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
nigga, how did you even did that shitty move


[06-Jun-20 06:01 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
All of the voter fraud is coming from Florida


[06-Jun-20 06:01 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
becasue of course it is


[06-Jun-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
fucking sunshit state


[06-Jun-20 06:01 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Including Trump and his Press Secretary


[06-Jun-20 06:02 PM] illumnious#7938
of course


[06-Jun-20 06:02 PM] illumnious#7938
him


[06-Jun-20 06:03 PM] illumnious#7938
whees


[06-Jun-20 06:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Emulating his idol.


[06-Jun-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1269286947735945223?s=20

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Temporary restraining order prohibits Denver police from using chemical agents or projectiles against peaceful protesters without supervisor approval https://t.co/lylq4ZTbp8
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[06-Jun-20 06:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/luxe-goods-targeted-looters-tips-how-to-avoid-purchasing-stolen-items

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Luxe goods targeted by looters: Tips on how to avoid purchasing sto...
Even so, retail security experts say that some of the stolen merchandise will make its way online for fast sale.
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[06-Jun-20 06:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX News covering the REAL important topics


[06-Jun-20 06:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
tfw was going to go a picture for today's NATG prompt but as I go through the sketch phase I realize, "Shit this is a dark as fuck joke I should reconsider it"


[06-Jun-20 06:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
The punchline/idea was "To serve hog". It involved a pig on a platter with an apple in its mouth and a police cap. But somewhere along the way I decided it should be still alive on the plate, just resigned.


[06-Jun-20 06:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
It was before going to be a head, but that was in even less taste.


[06-Jun-20 06:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
I guess I could just go back to Sabotage yelling, "Eat the rich!"


[06-Jun-20 06:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blackjack served like a roasted pig to feed a starving Zebra family :dab:


[06-Jun-20 06:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk A wealthy Blackjack served like a roasted pig to feed a starving Zebra family ^


[06-Jun-20 06:43 PM] ononim#8141
@AaronMk stop vore baiting with Sabotage


[06-Jun-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-buffalo-police-officers-charged-assault-over-alleged-shoving-75-n1226566

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A now-viral video of the incident shows longtime social justice activist Martin Gugino, 75, approaching officers before he is apparently shoved and falls back onto the ground.
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[06-Jun-20 07:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk stop vore baiting with Sabotage
@ononim 

Actually if I do draw Sabotage serving a pig it becomes a lot less grim than Lefty serving a pig. If because the relative sizes means the pig is more of an adult.


[06-Jun-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/06/rightwing-vigilante-armed-antifa-protests

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[06-Jun-20 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Jun-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1269286947735945223?s=20
@prism stryder(intexda)  without supervisor approval?

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Temporary restraining order prohibits Denver police from using chemical agents or projectiles against peaceful protesters without supervisor approval https://t.co/lylq4ZTbp8
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[06-Jun-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I bet the supervisors will approve anything anyway tbh


[06-Jun-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll probably lob afew themselves


[06-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Synfag#9241
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[06-Jun-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jun-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine having such an enormous brain https://i.redd.it/vfw07drwk9351.jpg

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[06-Jun-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/cuddlesandcoke/status/1268872071460896776?s=21

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in case you weren’t aware 35 out of 50 states allow a police officer to have sex with (and rape) someone they detain while in police custody and long as the officer claims it was consensual
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[06-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
1) What The Fuck
2) >*Buzzfeed*


[06-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/gxquqd/i_am_19_and_i_wont_vote_this_upcoming_2020/

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r/teenagers - I am 19 and I won't vote this upcoming 2020 election....
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[06-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Had me in the first half


[06-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84phU8of02U

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The Onion
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Judge Rules White Girl Will Be Tried As Black Adult
The court ruled a white teen who stabbed a classmate to death will face the jury as a 300-pound black man.  Onion News Network, Fridays at 10/9c on IFC.
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[06-Jun-20 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.derpibooru.org/images/2367618

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[06-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
<https://derpibooru.org/images/2367618>


[06-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qW1IaOwZ0

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waternotwaste
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Turn on the tap. Stop the insanity.
Millions of people drink mineral water every day that has previously been transported thousands of kilometres around the world. Often in plastic bottles, always at the expense of the environment. But almost everywhere in Europe we have great tap water, of high quality and inex...
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[06-Jun-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDYJO-1IhN8

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Don't Shoot, He's Not Black
From DBS episode 56 dub.
It was intentional. The voice actor for Trunks needed multiple attempts
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[06-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Synfag#9241

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[06-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
and the whole bus clapped


[06-Jun-20 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Don't tread on me, but please tread on the people i don't like"


[06-Jun-20 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once again, it's terrorism and danger if the ones acting are black


[06-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Synfag#9241

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[06-Jun-20 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the point you're trying to make here @Synfag


[06-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Synfag#9241
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZtzHSgUEAEgl2N?format=jpg&name=small

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[06-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wait, how is it a racist argument to not be in favor of violence exactly?


[06-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a strawman


[06-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You start off by implying people that protesters and looters/rioters are the same


[06-Jun-20 11:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cheap tactic that gets people to try to argue a losing position


[06-Jun-20 11:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/LCRWnews/status/1269098948972523520

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https://twitter.com/LCRWnews/status/1269098948972523520
ATTACK AND DETHRONE GOD
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[06-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/city-of-columbus-looking-into-osu-grads-death-after-she-was-reportedly-sprayed-with-tear-gas-at-a-protest/

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City of Columbus looking into OSU grad’s death after she was report...
COLUMBUS (WCMH) — The City of Columbus is looking into social media reports saying a young woman died after being sprayed with tear gas during a protest in Columbus. The woman has been identified o…
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[06-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"At least the US hasn't started gassing Jewish peop-"


[06-Jun-20 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well they are close to gassing migrants detained at ICE so


[06-Jun-20 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
> The Montgomery County coroner confirmed they are conducting an autopsy on Grossman. They confirm she died on May 30, 2020 at Sycamore Hospital. The results from the autopsy are expected to take approximately eight weeks.


[06-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
How the hell does an autopsy take 2 months?


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can't even hav the corpse out for more than a few hours before it'll warm up and start to rot.


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Are they bakklogged?


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
was gonna say that this seems like an absurdly long time to conduct an autopsy


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Are they bakklogged"


[06-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[06-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mario Odyssey sequel is going in some new directions

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[07-Jun-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
should join tj "henry" yoshi's server so I can post mariodab reacts


[07-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/black-lives-matter-dc-street-mural-space-trnd/index.html

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[07-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So no one really knows what the eggshell skull rule or proximate cause are


[07-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They think "Oh the cop isn't _really_ responsible, he had a heart attack" is an excuse


[07-Jun-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
laws? what are those


[07-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's always idiots in school who think the eggshell skull rule is unfair, or that beyond a reasonable doubt is too high of a standard for a prosecutor


[07-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The point of the eggshell skull rule is "Hey, maybe don't punch people _at all?_"


[07-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/06/cancellation_of_ivankas_address_to_grads_grates_at_wh.html

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[07-Jun-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
"The White House is not pleased."


[07-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
kek


[07-Jun-20 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://redd.it/gxwcrn

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[07-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
> They look like the same person but 20 years and a heroine addiction apart


[07-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
>heroine


[07-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
why do people get up in arms about form-fitting costumes for superheroines but say nothing about musclebound superheroes showing off their physiques?


[07-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74

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[07-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
apparently grifters are saying that we shouldn't make a martyr of george floyd because he wasn't a good person


[07-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Candace Owens is a well established grifter


[07-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AstraIbirthvoid/status/1268898610709704705

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[07-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty sure Uncle Ruckus was less of a racist  than Cadance Ownes cause he never made money off his racism


[07-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking


[07-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One Angry Gamer is such a joke I'd have difficulty believing he wasn't a parody if it weren't because of his consistency for so long


[07-Jun-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> why do people get up in arms about form-fitting costumes for superheroines but say nothing about musclebound superheroes showing off their physiques?
They do, but it's so obscure I only knew of it in Anthro course.


[07-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
OAG, my stance is


[07-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If your shitlist is as long as his is


[07-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe _you're_ the one with the problem


[07-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's also one of those people that thinks Japan is an apolitical wonderland, when they in fact have protests over the same shit


[07-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jun-20 01:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Murica embassy is still posting propagandas on our social medias


[07-Jun-20 01:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"These are the newest facts and datas that 'the entire America make effort' to fight against Covid-19:
>1.67 million samples tested;
>159.1 million masks;
>available ventilators 18708 ones. "


[07-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why even count masks? I thought Americans didn't like wearing them :twismug:


[07-Jun-20 02:10 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If they want Chinese to like America more, they should post something America does better than China, not something they does the worst on the globe.

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[07-Jun-20 02:15 AM] zylgchs#4073
Probably just some public-relationship guy trying to get his job done. It's only weibo after all.


[07-Jun-20 02:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe... Last time they just congrated a rocket "successfully launched" _before_ the rocket launched


[07-Jun-20 02:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because the launching is delayed but they apparently don't know


[07-Jun-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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They allow for no dissent. It is their way or the highway.
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[07-Jun-20 02:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why have cops done shit lately other than the chance to change themselves?


[07-Jun-20 02:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
This is something that's absurd


[07-Jun-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in their eyes, they don't need to change and fix themselves. They are the authority and questioning that means *you* need to be changed and fixed


[07-Jun-20 02:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's stupid though, not everything is your power


[07-Jun-20 02:30 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They became cops because of power


[07-Jun-20 02:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They're finding some source of violence as pleasure


[07-Jun-20 02:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So they became cops


[07-Jun-20 02:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I know not all cops are like this


[07-Jun-20 02:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But it happens in the worst cities


[07-Jun-20 02:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Probably because cops used to be in poverty


[07-Jun-20 02:32 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How come the good cops live in small and nice cities?


[07-Jun-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
size and budget of the department and local union most likely


[07-Jun-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the NYPD is fucking massive as is it;s union


[07-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Higher chance people you interact with are people you know or you'll encounter later


[07-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most assholes are still polite with their neighbours


[07-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The smaller the town the more likely everyone is your "neighbour", the guy you taze is a friend of a friend, is the son of the guy that runs the store you buy food in, is someone you'll bump into on the street every week, etc


[07-Jun-20 02:36 AM] illumnious#7938
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[07-Jun-20 02:36 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That's the sad truth of fucking America


[07-Jun-20 02:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there simply a big city where crime is low and police are actually called police?


[07-Jun-20 02:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Police meaning they actually protect the citizens, rescue people, don't abuse criminals when caught etc


[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/denver-police-fire-pepper-balls-man-yelling-his-pregnant-fianc-n1225701

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[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Honahue#0656
probably not, I read up on the Japanese legal system and it is ludicrously corrupt


[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the bigger the city the mroe police can get away with


[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Honahue#0656
like 99.8% conviction rate because of how long they can hold you in jail and get a confession


[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why do towns have to be the least corrupt


[07-Jun-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if thye piss off enough people, they simply get redistricted to a different part of the city


[07-Jun-20 02:40 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can't the citizens have the power to get complaint reports


[07-Jun-20 02:40 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
it's something to solve police brutality


[07-Jun-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
new york is working on making it easier for citizens to look into police records


[07-Jun-20 02:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why isn't the local government doing anything about it?


[07-Jun-20 02:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Solving police brutality is like the time to do it


[07-Jun-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the major problems is this isnt just a police issue but a politician issue


[07-Jun-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and somewhat of a judicial issue


[07-Jun-20 02:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean it isn't Trump's fault


[07-Jun-20 02:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But the stupid LGUs


[07-Jun-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has pardoned quite a few convicted police officers


[07-Jun-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and war criminals


[07-Jun-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and sherrifs


[07-Jun-20 02:44 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Who says being a conservative is great


[07-Jun-20 02:44 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It fucked up the country in 4 years


[07-Jun-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well basically what this means is that the pardoned  people go bakc to being police, or soldiers, and then they become a driving force in their local police union


[07-Jun-20 02:45 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why not fire them


[07-Jun-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were fired, convicted and thne pardoned


[07-Jun-20 02:45 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The local department has the power


[07-Jun-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the locAL department has a union


[07-Jun-20 02:45 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Otherwise, it was unconstitutional


[07-Jun-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fired officers who arent convicted often go for lawsuits to either get their jobs back, or a large sum of cash to retire on


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Where are the non-corrupt cops?


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They'd probably do better


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drove into hiding to avoid being fired or sent on a suicide mission


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
One of my pony friends is a cop


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
oh, no wonder they were shooting at that dude in the car, he's black with a white fiancee


[07-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Crow#5457
nothing pisses off racists more than that


[07-Jun-20 02:48 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Heck


[07-Jun-20 02:48 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Cops are more racist than citizens


[07-Jun-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unlike the white house, police departments dont really have any safety protocols for whistle blowers


[07-Jun-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a good cop makes a whistle blow and suddenly he's on a suicide mission with no back up


[07-Jun-20 02:49 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is it possible that racist people became cops?


[07-Jun-20 02:49 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because that should be a policy


[07-Jun-20 02:49 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like a bill that checks a background of racism


[07-Jun-20 02:49 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Before being accepted into law enforcement


[07-Jun-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1291891/China-news-warning-Boris-Johnson-Hong-Kong-residence-security-law-Chen-Wen

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[07-Jun-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1269295500106366978?s=20

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Secret Service with long duffle bags and badges marked “United States Secret Service Special Operations Counter Sniper Team” heading into the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute building a block north of White House. https://t.co/UmkLDI5eJJ
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[07-Jun-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and right now when cops arent being violent enough, the US DoJ sends in shit like this to get violent for them


[07-Jun-20 02:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
China is like the fat kid who wants it immediately


[07-Jun-20 03:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[07-Jun-20 03:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Where are the non-corrupt cops?
@SymphonyDawn3 

There's a story about one such cop. If I find the Twitter thread I'll post it again. But the guy has gone on radio and in public telling his story, it's in the archives of NPR'S This American Life. The basic gist is he was the son of a station chief who entered the force believing it was good. But once in he witnessed all the misdeeds and abuses the police did, esspecially to meet their arrest quotas. No one cared. So he recorded and wrote down everything he could and made all the reports he could. No one paid them any heed. If anything they came to his house and arrested him, sending him to a mental hospital under the pretense he was suffering paranoid dillusions. But he managed to use the recordings he had made to clear his name. All the same, NYPD hounded him after he got home and harrassed him the best they could at all hours and denied him his pension.


[07-Jun-20 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Here is an interview with the people attacked by the police in the car. the one they smashed the window in. Body cam footage too.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267796325912981509

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I thought [we] were going to die.” College students Taniyah Pilgrim and Messiah Young speak out after graphic video shows Atlanta police using stun guns and dragging them from their car during protest. https://t.co/nYkiImeO9R https://t.co/JxzqGth72O
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[07-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Because that should be a policy
@SymphonyDawn3 

Nominally there is or should be. But they also don't have to report and no one makes sure they don't. And if they do do something on the force that ends in their suspension, they get their record cleared in five years anyways and go back to the same department or another all together. But the police and white nationalist groups like the KKK have had a long relationship with one another throughout the country, it's an open secret no one does anything about because it would also mean going after their own guys. Only the army may be able to do purity since the relationship between the Klan and the Army is so insignificant in numbers, something like 1% of all members are members of a White Nationalist or fascist group.


[07-Jun-20 03:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You know what would be fun? Good cops arresting bad ones?


[07-Jun-20 03:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That should be a law


[07-Jun-20 03:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
A cop can arrest another one depending on actions


[07-Jun-20 03:16 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If they're together


[07-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[07-Jun-20 03:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://nypost.com/2020/06/05/reddit-co-founder-alexis-ohanian-steps-down-from-board-calls-for-black-successor/

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[07-Jun-20 03:20 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So, this guy's absolutely racist


[07-Jun-20 03:20 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Thats why cops are always in pairs together. problem is they get along together too well.


[07-Jun-20 03:21 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why pick a black guy


[07-Jun-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
>calls for black succ

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[07-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wasn't reddit's CEO for years a black woman


[07-Jun-20 03:23 AM] byte[]#2610
don't think so?


[07-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could've sworn some head of reddit was and there was drama about her and some VC group


[07-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh well


[07-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I can't blame him from wanting to step down from reddit, that place went down the drain so hard lately


[07-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So did he just reply with "Idfc, replace me with a black guy or something. I'm not dealing with this anymore" or is there more context


[07-Jun-20 03:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/i/status/1268993952532836352

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[07-Jun-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
@Raptorshy what happened with reddit lately?


[07-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I hate to sound like a hipster but it got way too mainstream


[07-Jun-20 04:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
> You know what would be fun? Good cops arresting bad ones?
@SymphonyDawn3 

Because how do you quantify a good guy with a bad guy? It is literally an impossible statement, because what is good or bad? The qualifications for either exist entirely at the whims of the time. What it'll just give is a number of people who whole good swear an oath to uphold the law which may not be good, and who may develop the same interests as what came before them once inside. In the end, another cop - white or black - kills another poor person, whether white or black, and the class basis remains


[07-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They ban a lot of things arbitrarily now, especially in response to criticism


[07-Jun-20 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Literally just kill the tech industry. Where is that bubble, I want to pop it. Rarely is anything there actually profitable. It's all bombs waiting to go off with already rich fucks there waiting to run with the bag.


[07-Jun-20 04:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Liquidate Silicon Valley, turn it into a worker's ran movement. CyberSocialism now.


[07-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SirStevoTimothy/status/1267555688118706178

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Sir Stevo Timothy (@SirStevoTimothy)
https://twitter.com/SirStevoTimothy/status/1267555688118706178
An Irish lad talks about racism in America

'If black people don't want to be shot they should stay at home' https://t.co/Kws0fSAbIL
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[07-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
this is the original video that offended people


[07-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
this is fucking amazing lmao


[07-Jun-20 04:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Am I a black man? Fuck the police! ✊🏻


[07-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
this is more of a shitpost than a political post


[07-Jun-20 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/thenicoleham/status/1269071183896383488

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🏠 nicole ham 🦠 (@thenicoleham)
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@JennyJarvie Cut to: ATL 10 mins past curfew https://t.co/HD560twJQ0
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[07-Jun-20 05:32 AM] Crow#5457
longer video of the black students being racially discriminated against


[07-Jun-20 05:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
political version

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[07-Jun-20 05:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You can see the woman in front wave before this happens.


[07-Jun-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>2 years


[07-Jun-20 05:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Based.


[07-Jun-20 05:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
For the record he isn't. But he is extending unemployment benefits and such to workers who do not want to risk their hides by going out.


[07-Jun-20 05:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it's different when Trump and the Police say it. Corona is just a liberal hoax.


[07-Jun-20 05:40 AM] AaronMk#4499
So paying people to stay home last I checked and not spread COVID by catering to some dumb ass who is only about me me me


[07-Jun-20 05:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
> it's different when Trump and the Police say it. Corona is just a liberal hoax.
@PwnyPony 

When I was at one of the recent local BLM protests the other day there was a guy with a "COVID is a hoax" sign. He liked look what you would expect, lithe and awkward. Without saying anything he kind of just made an ass if himself. When everyone knelt for a moment of silence the length it took for George Floyd to die he was the only one standing with his dumb ass sign in the middle of us.


[07-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://whdh.com/news/over-1000-health-professionals-sign-a-letter-saying-dont-shut-down-protests-using-coronavirus-concerns-as-an-excuse/

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Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don’t shut do...
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[07-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, they say to acquiesce to the protests and institute major reforms asap so that people go home on their own


[07-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
I worry what might happen with Covid transmission due to the protest but they should keep them up, cops are out numbered and wearing out keep the pressure up to get all their demands


[07-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Honahue#0656
OT is nice but it isn't sleep


[07-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the MPD is crumbling


[07-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Crow#5457
no source on this yet, but supposedly it's "insider" info


[07-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minneapolis considering disbanding them has them spooked I think.


[07-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This might be an attempt to both discourage that and potentially get bakk in if it happens.


[07-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Honahue#0656
just hoping we don't end up with OCP style private police instead


[07-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This killed Klobuchar being considered for VP


[07-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice.


[07-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But means we're stuck with Harris


[07-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Honahue#0656
the 8 demands are bullshit cause most cops already have most of them


[07-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/Artsymarxist/status/1269145707237175296

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🌹⧖ ☭ The Artsy Marxist ☭ ⧖ 🌹 BLM (@Artsymarxist)
https://twitter.com/Artsymarxist/status/1269145707237175296
The Tucson city council passed an ordinance making it illegal for citizens to film the Tucson police. I’m horrified. This needs national attention.
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[07-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
how to I explain to people who think that white privilege means that whites should get rich just for being white that it isn't how that works?


[07-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
like they seem to think that privilege is some kinda zero sum game, where whites have to give up privilege for blacks to gain them


[07-Jun-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
while also mocking the term "white privilege" by saying that because they're white and aren't rich, that white privilege doesn't exist


[07-Jun-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's really fucking weird


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tell them it's just a different term for "black disadvantage"


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything about conservatives is a zero sum game.


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all-or-nothing.


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That also covers other races, hispanic, native, indian, etc


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're acting surprised but you aren't really listening.


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives believe rights are zero sum


[07-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Granting rights to a group without means taking away the same from groups with.


[07-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That all isn't helping him here


[07-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is you aren't going to change this.


[07-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a foundation of the worldview, not even at the ideology level.


[07-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would hav to directly show in an irrefutable way that everyone can hav rights.


[07-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
(good fukking lukk)


[07-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, this is actually very fundamental to conservatives


[07-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
About the most you can do here is to show them that there are systems that are clearly racist.


[07-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't see rights as something people have inherently


[07-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I recommend the ban the box thing, Crow.


[07-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rights are a _resource_


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of worse than that


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone getting a right you have means you have less rights


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't really believe in rights


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which makes no sense


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
they believe in favorites


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Food analogy


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is about who wields power, and power by definition is a limited resource


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not like food


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They think you having one scoop of ice cream


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
think of it this way


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I hav a right to speak my say


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and someone else having one scoop of ice cream


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Means your right to have ice cream doesn't exist


[07-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav a right to choose who says things in your yard


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I go into your yard


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
can I say whatever I want?


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The short version is "your rights end where mine begin"


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
According to conservatives, the answer is "it depends"


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nonono


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
These people believe they have a right to the rights they currently have


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They simply believe in wielding power in particular areas.


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've got to understand


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
private property rights


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Part of having rights to these people is that rights are special and cheapened by "too many" people having them


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
are the basis of their view of rights as a whole.


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that literally any change to the status quo would strip them of some rights


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Its


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
inverse ninja rule


[07-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
if everyone owns the yard, nobody does


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, I'm not really surprised, it's just really weird


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yard was never meant to be owned at all.


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
In their world, it must be owned


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
their entire worldview is based on power


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then why do the conservatives own it checkmate liberals


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
and choosing who wields it.


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
etc


[07-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Property rights are just their most basic idea of it.


[07-Jun-20 06:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A relative of mine (who lives not too far from Buffalo, incidentally) seemed annoyed that there was a protest happening in his town, where he lived, and where George Floyd did not


[07-Jun-20 06:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because he simply can't wrap his head around the idea that the thing that got Floyd killed, and the thing that people are protesting, is a systemic, nationwide problem


[07-Jun-20 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's the sort of guy who thinks that cops are good for us and protect us because he's only experienced cops doing stuff like directing traffic when a light is out etc


[07-Jun-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if ben shapiro hates socialism so much why is he always getting publicly owned


[07-Jun-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[07-Jun-20 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And was concerned that people were going to lie down in the street and block traffic which would a) make him late getting home and b) cause him to fear running over a protester, despite earlier in the conversation mentioning that he was stuck behind a line of cars


[07-Jun-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the same line of thinking that gives you "global warming isn't real because it's snowing, right now, where I live"


[07-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All-or-nothing.


[07-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives tend to like simple worldviews, a thing is good or bad.


[07-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's painted cops as good.


[07-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of variation is offensive.


[07-Jun-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
worth nothing that some conservatives actually paint cops as bad


[07-Jun-20 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they don't do enough


[07-Jun-20 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've actually had that conversation


[07-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of variation implies to a conservative that things are random.


[07-Jun-20 07:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] are those cops they complain not the same color as them?


[07-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[07-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
they're jewish


[07-Jun-20 07:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> Conservatives tend to like simple worldviews, a thing is good or bad.
> He's painted cops as good.
> The idea of variation is offensive.
I got the feeling they will go insane looking at certain Derpi tags and how some of them are "gray" as hell


[07-Jun-20 07:44 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Who's jewish?


[07-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tfw I saw plenty of good/bad leftists in my life.


[07-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You don't even to need to go far, look at twitter crazies.


[07-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[07-Jun-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 the cops in the analogy


[07-Jun-20 07:53 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
What does being Jewish has to do?


[07-Jun-20 07:53 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
With cops?


[07-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So you don't have to be conservative to see world in black an white colors.


[07-Jun-20 07:57 AM] jlun2#8758
I see b/w in other things


[07-Jun-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 there's a common belief associated with US conservatives that "the jews" are controlling the world


[07-Jun-20 08:01 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
That’s the same thing nazis and soviets and any facist movemnt says


[07-Jun-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it's nazism with extra steps


[07-Jun-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[07-Jun-20 08:02 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
That’s how the nazis came into power democratically instead of Soviets and Fascists


[07-Jun-20 08:20 AM] jlun2#8758
Why do I get the feeling even if there were literally 0 Jews left (say, idk a space colony far away in the future) people would still somehow be anti-semitic & label whoever they hate as "Jew"?


[07-Jun-20 08:21 AM] byte[]#2610
they'd just have a different label


[07-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Gamers 🤡


[07-Jun-20 08:45 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Because antisemtic been around ever before Jesus was born who himself was jewish


[07-Jun-20 08:47 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Pogron by russia, nuremberg laws by nazi germany which was based on Jim Crow Laws, this is just result of milennia of antisemitism


[07-Jun-20 09:49 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
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An Officers perspective
https://i.imgur.com/jU8QMcWh.jpg


[07-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Crow#5457
I think the 99% of cops are good is off, and he really shouldn't be surprised about all the destruction, but other than that it's pretty clear


[07-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there's some saying about "15% are good, 15% are bad, 70% follow the rest"


[07-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
there's another one that's like "10% are good, 10% are evil, 80% can be persuaded either way"


[07-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Crow#5457
I personally think it's more like 30% are good, 15% are evil, 55% are followers for humanity in general


[07-Jun-20 09:58 AM] byte[]#2610
apathy is not acceptable in police work


[07-Jun-20 09:59 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're a cop and you don't give a shit or have any empathy you will find yourself lumped in with the nazi blue-liners


[07-Jun-20 09:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't take long either


[07-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2019/01/31/blue-wall-of-silence-policing-the-usa-cops-community/2604929002/

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Why an ex-FBI agent decided to break through the blue wall of silence
Just as I testified against the officer who shot and killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards, more cops must be willing to speak out against bad cops
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[07-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Synfag#9241
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[07-Jun-20 10:07 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Crow#5457

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[07-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCY7JN-Zec

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Ethan Becker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCY7JN-Zec
DREW BREES : THE TRUTH ABOUT WHITE FOLK 🦅
why the shades: I was reading off my script. also, it's ironic.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cOCY7JN-Zec/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Jun-20 12:02 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Crossing Barbara off the list of potential names for my future possible daughter


[07-Jun-20 12:06 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://i.imgur.com/k5FMT2h.jpg
@Crow  

Huh thought Corrupt Police Deparment only existed in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, guess I was wrong

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[07-Jun-20 12:07 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Unfortunately we only had one good cop heroe who was also fired for exposing a corrupt captain who has links with drug traffickers


[07-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Crow#5457
that video's pretty good, dude's good at psychological manipulation


[07-Jun-20 01:27 PM] Synfag#9241
https://youtu.be/1GT0tQuMGOo

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Oleg Hmelnits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GT0tQuMGOo
Man arrested after appearing at protest in blackface, June 06, 2020...
A man who appeared at Nathan Phillips Square, Toronto, at the start of the protest wearing blackface was escorted out of the public square by Toronto police officers. 
Watch the reaction of the protestors.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1GT0tQuMGOo/maxresdefault.jpg


[07-Jun-20 01:42 PM] Synfag#9241
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[07-Jun-20 01:47 PM] Crow#5457
yeah... it's an empty gesture if the people in power just perform the symbols of the movement without effecting changes


[07-Jun-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/philly-student-protester/index.html

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After reviewing video, prosecutors charge police inspector instead ...
A Philadelphia police inspector is facing charges after prosecutors said a video shows him striking a student protester on the head with a metal baton.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200606194847-philadelphia-police-officer-hits-student-protester-head-orig-ko-mg-00000711-super-tease.jpg


[07-Jun-20 02:39 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
his last name was bologna....


[07-Jun-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-retweets-attacks-on-george-floyd-by-conservative-activist-2020-6

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Trump retweeted an attack on George Floyd's character by Glenn Beck...
President Trump shared a video in which activist Candace Owens described Floyd as "not a good person.'
https://i.insider.com/5edcc3302618b91e322d67b5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[07-Jun-20 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-demanded-10000-troops-be-deployed-to-quell-protests-reports-2020-6

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Trump got into a shouting match with a top Pentagon official after ...
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[07-Jun-20 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, even with Barr scraping together the largest collection of unidentifiable federal officers as personal protection the country's ever seen, it's probably not smart from a security standpoint to concentrate that much of Trump's fascist leadership around him in one place at one time like that


[07-Jun-20 04:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's also bad for Barr to be playing the president's personal wingman because of how much time Trump spends being caught on camera. He's liable to wind up being seen in the open doing shady things like he did the other day


[07-Jun-20 04:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if there is a crazy person out there who wouldn't be dissuaded by the threat of snipers and whatever all else they're bringing in, he or she would definitely not be mollified by the WHPS' alternate facts


[07-Jun-20 04:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/looney-tunes-gun-elmer-fudd-bugs-bunny-hbo-max-watch-new-series-uk-a9553011.html

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Looney Tunes character banned from using gun in new series
He'll hunt Bugs Bunny with a scythe instead
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[07-Jun-20 04:47 PM] ononim#8141
>He'll hunt Bugs Bunny with a scythe instead


[07-Jun-20 04:48 PM] ononim#8141
Idk about about anyole else but this is more terrifying imo


[07-Jun-20 04:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That definitely sounds like malicious compliance to me


[07-Jun-20 04:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good ol' malicious compliance


[07-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/trump-destroys-factorys-entire-daily-batch-of-coronavirus-swabs-by-refusing-to-wear-a-mask/

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Factory Throws Out Swabs After Trump Visits Without a Mask
President Donald Trump visited a factory that is swabs for coronavirus testing, but the entire day's batch was tossed out because Trump refused to wear a mask.
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[07-Jun-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sadiqkhan/status/1269541001565175809?s=21

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LONDON: lockdown has not been lifted. The virus is still out there. 

I know it's tough, but please keep following the rules:

⚠️ Stay at home as much as possible and avoid public transport 
 
⚠️ Keep a social distance when out, and where that's difficult wear a face covering...
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[07-Jun-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/1269638654642847745?s=21

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[07-Jun-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yep =/


[07-Jun-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANuVKeYezs

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Woody Guthrie -- I Ain't Got No Home/Old Man Trump by the Missin' C...
In December 1950, Woody Guthrie moved to an apartment building in Brooklyn – Beach Haven Apartments.  His landlord: Fred Trump, father of Donald Trump.

Woody Guthrie wrote these lyrics in 1951, and 65 years later, the Missin' Cousins, a County-Western music group from Oakland...
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[07-Jun-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/klamath-falls-oregon-victory-declared-over-antifa-which-never-showed-n1226681

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In Klamath Falls, Oregon, victory declared over antifa, which never...
Towns from Washington state to Indiana have seen armed groups begin patrolling the streets after rumors spread on social media about an antifa invasion.
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[07-Jun-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/zackfinknews/status/1269645131872907265?s=21

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.@NYCMayor announces reforms of NYPD:

-Shift funding from NYPD to youth and social services 
-Repeal of 50-a ( making disciplinary records of NYPD public ) 
-Move vendor enforcement out of NYPD
-Bring community voices into NYPD leadership
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[07-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
@ononim There's actually a good reason for Looney Tunes to switch to this, because of how Looney Tunes' stylistic approach to characters being hurt handles beheading vs. being shot. Being shot, the character is covered in soot and clearly weakened as a small negative consequence, which a kid might think is what really happens, while for beheading, the character's head falls off, but bloodlessly and alive, and then they just put it back on or pop back to normal when next seen, which is more obviously not real. As well, a character *pretending* to be beheaded can use ketchup to fake blood and walk out with their head tucked in, to indicate in a safe way the consequences.


[07-Jun-20 07:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
I love how we are back to this discourse: https://youtu.be/afZdQ2dJBq8

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Chapo Trap House - Antifa Super Soldiers on November 4th
From Episode 155 (Premium)
My dumbass twitter: https://twitter.com/AndroidPolitico
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[07-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Looney Tunes treats scythes correctly, but guns not, and making guns accurate would blow their TV-Y7-FV rating.


[07-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
What kids shows SHOULD do is hav bloodless bulletholes that cause severe damage, but you can't really do that in Looney Tunes because nobody can ever die.


[07-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the big problem with bullet wounds is not the actual hole but that blood leaking out it will lead to death in minutes.


[07-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rubber bullets meanwhile would be *too* low-impact in the setting.


[07-Jun-20 07:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and Bugs' face getting blackened by soot when shot would be uh...real bad timing.


[07-Jun-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So, is it gonna be Fudd dressed as usual with his hunting outfit, and a scythe?


[07-Jun-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would expect he has like a farmer outfit and is all talking about how Bugs ate his crops.


[07-Jun-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
This would probably then lead to some problems morally, because Bugs is actually stealing his livelihood...


[07-Jun-20 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/rrHH3Sm.jpg

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Why do cops get the gold and the champagne?
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[07-Jun-20 07:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>misreads garbage men as cabbage men


[07-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/scattermoon/status/1269661024388612101

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That's some fast work.
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[07-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[07-Jun-20 08:06 PM] illumnious#7938
oof


[07-Jun-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V6TtUSbbpchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V6TtUSbbpc

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The Sun
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BLM protesters pull down statue of Edward Colston before throwing i...
Black Lives Matter protesters have pulled down a statue of a 17th Century slave trader in Bristol.

The controversial Edward Colston monument was ripped from its plinth using rope as crowds cheered.

Read more: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11775908/black-lives-matter-proteste...
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[07-Jun-20 08:13 PM] jlun2#8758
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/06/07/brazil-stops-publishing-coronavirus-death-toll-dismisses-gravity-of-pandemic/
rip

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Brazil stops publishing coronavirus death toll, dismisses gravity o...
Brazil’s government has stopped publishing a running total of coronavirus deaths and infections in an extraordinary move that critics call an attempt to hide the true toll of the disease in Latin America’s largest nation. The Saturday move came after months of criticism from e...
https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2020/06/07/23315198-1024x683.jpg


[07-Jun-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/clownhound/status/1269456559605780481

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-no stamps
-didn’t bother to vary handwriting
-envelopes all the same size as if bought in bulk https://t.co/qK7XSqvWdH
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[07-Jun-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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@clownhound @MaraWilson This one is my favorite! If I send people thank you cards, I always change the sentiment and then sign it “Family and Friends”. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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[07-Jun-20 08:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump came close to deploying 10K troops in Washington, D.C. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/06/07/trump-wanted-to-deploy-10000-troops-in-washington-dc-official-says/24514922/

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Trump wanted to deploy 10,000 troops in Washington D.C., official says
The account of Trump's demand during a heated Oval Office conversation on Monday shows how close the president may have come to fulfilling his threat.
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[07-Jun-20 09:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/publishers-sue-internet-archive-over-massive-digital-lending-program/?comments=1

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Lawsuit over online book lending could bankrupt Internet Archive
Publishers call online library “willful digital piracy on an industrial scale.”
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[07-Jun-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a slapp suit


[07-Jun-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
very likely they can get summary judgement


[07-Jun-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/itsjosephryan/status/1269158676037660672

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OMFG: The @SeattlePD just refused to let an AMBULANCE through a peaceful protest. Absolutely disgraceful. 😡😡😡 #DefundSPD #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/k5l7ec943Q
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[07-Jun-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's an alt-right parody account


[07-Jun-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently


[07-Jun-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their acronym is "Journalism excellence Worldwide", which abbreviates to JEW


[07-Jun-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1269714017054076928?s=20

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An Atlanta dental hygienist is recovering from broken bones after police allegedly slammed her to the ground as she was attempting to leave a protest, @11AliveNews reports. https://t.co/bTNIPKM0Eh
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[07-Jun-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/APWestRegion/status/1269707393254019072?s=20

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https://twitter.com/APWestRegion/status/1269707393254019072?s=20
Strong winds fed a fast-growing wildfire that threatened about 100 homes and prompted evacuations near the rural Northern California town of Winters. (This tweet corrects the name of the town.) https://t.co/5auPYTDRYp
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[07-Jun-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[07-Jun-20 10:30 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Raptorshy#6268
To be fair it's damage to public property either way


[07-Jun-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the public owns the property


[07-Jun-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the public can choose to damage it


[07-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Raptorshy#6268
:furthinking:


[07-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Raptorshy#6268
You win this round


[07-Jun-20 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
The public can rip it down or the city council can opt to remove it before it can happen or even announce some new recontextualization of the monuments. Like raise an even bigger statue of the escaped slave who commendeered a Confederate ship to join the union and be made a captain.


[07-Jun-20 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or I think he commendeered a Confederate ship


[07-Jun-20 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yup, he did commandeer a ship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smalls

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Robert Smalls
Robert Smalls (April 5, 1839 – February 23, 1915) was an American businessman, publisher, and politician.  Born into slavery in Beaufort, South Carolina, he freed himself, his crew, and their families during the American Civil War by commandeering a Confederate transport ship,...
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[07-Jun-20 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
A statue of this guy to loom over every surviving Confederate Statue


[08-Jun-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/barr-doesnt-think-law-enforcement-system-is-systemically-racist-2020-6

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US Attorney General Barr says there is racism in US but denies that...
Barr joins other administration officials, including HUD Secretary Ben Carson and national security adviser Robert O'Brien, who made similar comments.
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[08-Jun-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-said-he-experienced-real-systemic-racism-growing-up-2020-6

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HUD Secretary Ben Carson, Trump's only black cabinet member, said h...
Carson said he experienced racism as an eighth-grade student, but called similar acts of racism "uncommon" today.
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[08-Jun-20 12:26 AM] Crow#5457
> The flu kills more police per year.


[08-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/25/dakota-access-pipeline-permits-court-standing-rock

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Dakota access pipeline: court strikes down permits in victory for S...
Army corps of engineers ordered to conduct full environmental review, which could take years
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[08-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, did you hear about this?


[08-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/aclumn/status/1269738051498106880

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BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council members have announced their intent to disband the Minneapolis Police Department and invest in community-led public safety.
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[08-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm really curious to see what that would look like, because I have no idea


[08-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Assuming they don't mean disbanding the police department and replacing it with more police


[08-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I hope they mean adding CPF


[08-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
CPF?


[08-Jun-20 12:58 AM] jlun2#8758
community police force?


[08-Jun-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
central provident fund?


[08-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
caw provider flock


[08-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[08-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
:murder:


[08-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/CuV4XjP

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Fact checking is as vital as ever during this time.
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[08-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
now people are just making shit up about dead cops who died way before this shit happened


[08-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
> USA Today reported about the president’s tour of the Puritan Medical Products site, and noted that the factory had planned a “limited” production run for Trump’s visit.


[08-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
so about that visit trump did to the factory, they did a "limited" production run the day he visited


[08-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
which means that they basically only made a small batch for trump to play with before burning it after he left


[08-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Crow#5457
which is hilarious to me


[08-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
it's like they made some toys for a little kid to play with so he could feel like a big boy


[08-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
literally refused to wear a mask


[08-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the audacity


[08-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wearing a mask is admitting the problem is real; he's stood by his strongman persona and refused to wear a mask for so long that the instant he does it'd be on the news for days


[08-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"PRESIDENT AFRAID", "TRUMP ADMITS MISTAKES", etc


[08-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd rather see the country burn to ashes than look small


[08-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
if that's what he wants, that's what he'll get


[08-Jun-20 01:20 AM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Google Maps' updated the street, photo's still old for me


[08-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Raptorshy @jlun2 
Community Police Forum, volunteer based community that works closely with police.


[08-Jun-20 01:24 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm using Apple's own


[08-Jun-20 01:24 AM] illumnious#7938
I'll check out Bing's own


[08-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same


[08-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Name updated, photo old


[08-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, both are 2020 so not really "old", but you know


[08-Jun-20 01:26 AM] illumnious#7938
^


[08-Jun-20 01:26 AM] illumnious#7938
I guess Apple is the first one to update that quickly


[08-Jun-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1269762329748570113?s=20

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Mitt Romney marches outside the White House: 

“We need to stand up & say black lives matter.”

@haleytalbotnbc 

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[08-Jun-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
it's crazy shit how the guy who said that corporations are people may be the most ethical republican senator


[08-Jun-20 01:32 AM] illumnious#7938
> Google Maps' updated the street, photo's still old for me
@Teaspoon they called it black lives matter plaza


[08-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, the area where people were protesting when Barr's bully boys broke out was renamed to that


[08-Jun-20 01:33 AM] illumnious#7938
ah


[08-Jun-20 02:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[08-Jun-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
they forgot to update the location


[08-Jun-20 02:25 AM] illumnious#7938
lol


[08-Jun-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/7/1951304/-BREAKING-Hell-Freezes-Over-As-Mitt-Romney-Marches-in-DC-w-Evangelicals-For-Black-Lives-Matter

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[08-Jun-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
just linking for the headline


[08-Jun-20 02:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he's angry that stupid shills aren't shilling for him specifically.


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Weapons of mass destruction? I thought it's for bringing Middle East democracy


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, Trump's also the last person you'd expect to tell the truth about the Iraq War.


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Weapons of mass destruction? I thought it's for bringing Middle East democracy
@AlchemistLiang


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Whoops


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
That sent too early


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you know, it's politically convenient at the moment.


[08-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Synfag#9241

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[08-Jun-20 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways: the original intent for invading Iraq was they had weapons of mass destruction, @AlchemistLiang . And Powell being a George W. Bush boy he was toting that line. He was sort of in command of the operation too. But the whole allegations were largely fabricated by the Bush Whitehouse itself in order to drum support for the invasion of Iraq after we knocked over Afghanistan.


[08-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tea Party killed the GOP


[08-Jun-20 02:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
And of course there were no WMD's, just some mustard gas lying around. Though in Neocon circuits the cry of WMDs hasn't ended because they just claim Saddam moved them to some other country before we invaded, either Iran or Syria.


[08-Jun-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was inevitable tbh


[08-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They fully took on the birther shit


[08-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOD and Dems used to be pretty interchangeable, now they've gone fully off the rails


[08-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm legit curious of what they'll do once Trump is gone


[08-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The party's identity since 2016 has just been "Trump"


[08-Jun-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're likely to grip on to another "führer"


[08-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But who


[08-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody stands out


[08-Jun-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, depends on if he wins or loses 2020 imo


[08-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump is such an extreme case of... _Trump_ that anything else will just seem tryhard


[08-Jun-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump already is tryhard conservatism lol


[08-Jun-20 03:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So what did murica invade Iraq for?


[08-Jun-20 03:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oil?


[08-Jun-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, in that the memes are correct


[08-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Internal PR


[08-Jun-20 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
And a geopolitical alignment of the Middle East to someday invade Iran


[08-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bush's approval rating fucking skyrocketed after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan


[08-Jun-20 03:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which they thought they couldn't do then, but could later if they could occupy and surround the country with bases.


[08-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oil too.


[08-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haliburton.


[08-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a way to secure money for rich donors while also getting votes from hillbilly idiots.


[08-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shoot a few random arabs, shoot a few more who threaten your oil interests, tell the people you've saved America, yadda yadda


[08-Jun-20 03:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's been said too that if the Neocon boyes of Bush's day had known they could just invade Iran then and there they would have jumped on the opportunity instead of doing geopolitical building because now there is no support for it, which is why every time Iran does a thing it blows up on the news as the current great evil.


[08-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
oh, and keep the region destabilized so that you can do it every week for the next two decades.


[08-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
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[08-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
>this canadian riots


[08-Jun-20 03:08 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[08-Jun-20 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also Canada


[08-Jun-20 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Doug Ford threw a fit, of course.


[08-Jun-20 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i find the meme funny, but to an extent the stereotype of the "nice Canadian" has a state interest behind it to hide Canada's sinister closet history with native americans


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like Justin Trudeau coming out to kneel with protestors.


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like bitch you the PM do the thing, not the ritual.


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when Stephen Harper decided that climate science should just die?


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trudeau be like, "Yes, today I shall chase clout"


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And told all the scientists if they talked to the media they'd lose all their credentials


[08-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
and made sure universities completely destroyed their climate science programs


[08-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
while making sure businesses could pollute unregulated


[08-Jun-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
ultimately causing Canada to go from like #3 in climate science to dead last.


[08-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are incredibly destructive and they are ultimately the ones in control of Canada.


[08-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Justin Trudeau is a centrist trying to make his nation not a joke.


[08-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Synfag#9241
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[08-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Synfag#9241
Meanwhile...


[08-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Synfag#9241
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[08-Jun-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:yay:


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
What is that list for?


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hue


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh, companies and people the author doesn't like


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Hue br


[08-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
~~This is honestly why an announcement was a bad idea~~


[08-Jun-20 04:06 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Which author?


[08-Jun-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One Angry Gamer


[08-Jun-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some conservative gaming pundit


[08-Jun-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
s\/pundit/retard


[08-Jun-20 04:09 AM] ononim#8141
I love how Derpiboory is just "imageboard" while DA and discord are "Furry breading grounds"


[08-Jun-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
You can owo my uwu daddy

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[08-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
OAG is absolutely obsessed with sex


[08-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also conflates "Racism is bad" with "We condone looting"


[08-Jun-20 04:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, so that's why Sony is on his list. Sony's been censoring a lot of content that could be interpreted as sexy lately :ponythinking:


[08-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what's really funny


[08-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All you have to do to get a sexy character into a video game


[08-Jun-20 04:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TFW TIFA'S TIDDY ARE SLIGHTLY BUT NOTICEABLY SMALLER


[08-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is to make it a furry


[08-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People like OAG being so anti-furry is funny


[08-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because a lot of furries are leftist, he ignores the ace in the hole that could get him everything he wants.


[08-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Yuri#4154
OAG's list is fucking hilarious


[08-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The list is "anyone who said the Floyd situation was bad"


[08-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's the one making connections and saying they support looting


[08-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Yuri#4154

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[08-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man, playing Rimworld...a policewoman dropped in a pod, and her age in absolute years (cause cryosleep etc.) is 666...


[08-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking what's really bizarre is also sometimes talking animals are said to be too naughty, so you hav to make them anthro...


[08-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means that essentially the censors as a whole push everything to furry.


[08-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just saying you could get away with more stuff by making them furry that you wouldn't be able to


[08-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could get away with boob armor with a furry character.


[08-Jun-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can get away with more with furry than with human or feral.


[08-Jun-20 05:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You couldn't make Fritz the Cat with humans in the 70s.


[08-Jun-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[08-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wew lad, those traits

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[08-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slow learner with an 8 in shooting...


[08-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rimworld is basically telling me that police are shoot-happy idiots.


[08-Jun-20 05:27 AM] Yuri#4154
Can JK Rowling please shut the fuck up


[08-Jun-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe when people stop listening to her like she has anything really to say.


[08-Jun-20 05:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Anyone wondering why the police were attacked in the UK. They charged horses into the crowd. 
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[08-Jun-20 05:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
poor horses


[08-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
WIZARDS POOPED THEIR PANTS BEFORE PLUMBING. POOPOO!!!!!!!


[08-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
JK Rowling knows next to nothing.


[08-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her "lore" is largely based around coming up with ways a secretive elite can hav it better than the common folk.


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except the implications of it are that like, wizards could cure cancer overnite


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just don't because they're fascists.


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except that there's EVEN WORSE fascists who want to murder anyone that so much as talks to non-wizards.


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She's trying to score woke points after realising she is still in bed.


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Yuri#4154
I kinda miss the times when she tweeted dumb shit about Harry Potter


[08-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do in Harry Potter after Voldemort is defeated is to kill Harry Potter.


[08-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Storm the wizarding world and shoot anyone that doesn't submit to the rule of the UK gov't.


[08-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Yuri#4154
Nowadays she mostly tweets TERF garbage


[08-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Burn Hogwarts to the ground.


[08-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, people who tweet dumb shit are dumb.


[08-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, but she _is_ loaded


[08-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has to be to write shit where the characters could solve half the world's problems in a year, but choose instead to worry about who to take to the prom.


[08-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harry Potter's world just oooozes rich person thinking.


[08-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The poorest family in it is the Weasleys.


[08-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav everything in the house fukking automated.


[08-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And liv in a huge mansion.


[08-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they're poor because...they wash dishes instead of summon new ones in a castle?


[08-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harry is the only one whose life resembles a normal poor kid's, because his middle class family hates him and thus puts him under the stairs.


[08-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't last long, he gets gifts absolutely slathered on, including a fukking one of a kind artifact to sneak around wherever he wants.


[08-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rowling grew up dirt poor and then suddenly became famous


[08-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Her American lore is basically based off of 90s American sitcoms and staying at the Ritz in between book signings


[08-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's awful.


[08-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yukk.


[08-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She made an American wizard sport that's the equivalent of Quidditch because "it would be like real life, Americans wouldn't like what the British play right"


[08-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC it's just "Throw the quaffle into the pot"


[08-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally.


[08-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Muggle" isn't what American wizards use to describe non-wizards


[08-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "Nomaj"


[08-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's really bad at developing her American lore


[08-Jun-20 05:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That actually seems pretty consistent with how America does things actually. Their own version of sports ball from something else and Pointless abbreviation No majic.


[08-Jun-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jun-20 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is one big [citation needed] and a couple of things here are a hard sell - at least, they are the way they've painted a lot of these things as stark YES and NO


[08-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the categories are repetitive and it makes it harder to get an overview.


[08-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very poor argumentative tool overall.


[08-Jun-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[08-Jun-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"More training," particularly, seems to make the assumption that all police training leads to police violence and that anything else is "outside the scope" of police


[08-Jun-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And leaves no room at all for de-escalation training


[08-Jun-20 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And literally no attempt is made whatsoever to justify the overall reduction of the force to those who believe "the notion that police increase safety"


[08-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of its argument is premised on the idea that police as a structure inherently leads to violence.


[08-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's possible, but highly tenuous.


[08-Jun-20 06:25 AM] jlun2#8758
still waiting for the magic "AI solves all crime app" from Silicon Valley.


[08-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
What it actually will be is "machine learning lets you imprison a blakk person before his second crime to stay alive"

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[08-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to not underestimate is how prejudicial machine learning is in practice.


[08-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's trained on trends.


[08-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is always used with the assumption that the correct action is to go and do a thing, not plan ahead.


[08-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NSA used machine learning to find terrorists.


[08-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They considered it a success that it found all terrorists in their modeling, along with tons of innocent people.


[08-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Honahue#0656
Precrime works by arresting everyone


[08-Jun-20 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
My take on police reform stems from my existing stance on gun control - I'm an advocate for responsible gun ownership and that means demonstrable training and liability to legally own/carry firearms. So you can imagine that learning just how much training cops get before they're put on active duty has me feeling like they don't have enough training to be given a gun, let alone a badge


[08-Jun-20 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that maybe it'd be better if we gave them those things in the other order


[08-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[08-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
No gun just because you get a badge.


[08-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
A gun should take special training.


[08-Jun-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In other words, if you can't handle being a pencil-pusher or a meter maid because you just wanna get out there and crack skulls, you *ought* to get weeded out of a system with proper oversight (the other critical element). THEN you get to be a gun cop


[08-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Deescalation training first.


[08-Jun-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't even get rubber bullets without being a special amazing cop.


[08-Jun-20 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
wasn't there a tweet posted here about "I wanted to be a cop growing up to legally kill people" or something similar? @WingbeatPony


[08-Jun-20 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there was.


[08-Jun-20 06:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Whew, that post is a lot to take in


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[08-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives have picked up on a new "real" statistic using a "death-to-arrest ratio"


[08-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
saying that the death:arrest ratio for whites is the same as blacks


[08-Jun-20 07:24 AM] jimm#1439
anyone else been inundated by youtube ads about donald trump's birthday


[08-Jun-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
ads?


[08-Jun-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
install ublock origin


[08-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
haven't seen a youtube ad in years


[08-Jun-20 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure they very much would not like people taking their new statistic and comparing that ratio to various european countries


[08-Jun-20 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to double down and say, yes, our cops are very violent, which only makes it worse that they're arresting a disproportionate number of black people


[08-Jun-20 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And then they would get mad because the whataboutism failed to make it not about racism


[08-Jun-20 07:27 AM] jlun2#8758
> various european countries
they simply dont exist now for them then


[08-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
their argument has always been that "if it's not in the US, it doesn't matter"


[08-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
I thought you knew this lol


[08-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
for decades, everyone who compares the US's absurd number of police shootings compared to other countries, the argument has always been that US criminals are more dangerous than other criminals


[08-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
so the police need to be able to shoot at the drop of a hat


[08-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Y35EpOiFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLqS6Wp0HzQ
two part interview with a former officer.

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Ex-Police Officer Exposes The Reality of Race & Policing | Brandon ...
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[08-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sunnyside#3103
and yes these are interviews. not commentary's or reaction vids.


[08-Jun-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2015.302749

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[08-Jun-20 07:38 AM] Crow#5457
apparently a 10% increase in gun ownership in a state corresponds with a 10% increase in officer deaths


[08-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
the states with less people owning guns have less officers being killed


[08-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note about saying arrests:deaths is the same is that that implies that if you increase arrests, you increase deaths DIRECTLY PROPORTIONALLY


[08-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's **really bad**


[08-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that implies that increased policing or increased law codes mean increased deaths.


[08-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the higher rate of arrests for blakks comes with a higher rate of deaths to match.


[08-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
It on its own implies we should reduce policing.


[08-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If arrests and deaths were seemingly unrelated then that would support the idea that it's okay to make more arrests etc.


[08-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Crow#5457
first thing I pointed out is that the arrest rate is still disproportionate, it was dismissed as irrelevant because "men commit way more murders than women, is it sexist to say that men commit more violent crimes than women?"


[08-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
and that it's "very hard" to explain the racial disparity without "very in depth and unbiased evidence", but that such evidence is "exceptionally hard to come by"


[08-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Crow#5457
basically seems to be implying that it's impossible to prove with internet sources that systemic racism exists


[08-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
No their argument is it's impossible to prove systemic anything ever exists.


[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire conservative worldview is that systems don't really matter, everything is random when it comes to bad behavior.


[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe racism exists, but that it's just some unstoppable force of nature that they aren't responsible for.


[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] jlun2#8758
>  impossible to prove systemic anything ever exists
pretty sure they're prob say "systemic racism against whites/men" sometime in the future


[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/if-republicans-are-ever-going-turn-on-trump-this-might-be-the-moment/

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[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, they wouldn't.

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[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their argument would be that people who practice racism against white men need to die.


[08-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not that the system is against white men.


[08-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, to them it's just a "bad cop" problem.


[08-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Synfag#9241
You don't need guns. Just call the police.
Also, defund the police.


[08-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nice strawman.


[08-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673513111185260554/719415541734834236/Vocaloid_Miku_Levan_Polka_Guns.mp4
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[08-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't the shitposting channel


[08-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, the lyrics of Levan Polka are about how a girl sees a guy dancing, so she flatout defies her mother to start going after his hot body.


[08-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/0d52f8accbbdab6a29b781d75e9aeb01

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Duty to intervene: Floyd cops spoke up but didn't step in
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[08-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
> Minneapolis was among several cities that had policies on the books requiring police officers to intervene to stop colleagues from using unreasonable force, but that didn’t save George Floyd and law enforcement experts say such rules will always run up against entrenched police culture and the fear of being ostracized and branded a “rat.”
> 
> Power dynamics may have been magnified in the Floyd case because two of the four officers involved were rookies and the most senior officer on the scene was a training officer, Derek Chauvin, a 19-year police veteran who was seen putting his knee on the back of the black man’s neck despite his cries that he couldn’t breathe.


[08-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
> “This is a lesson for every cop in America: If you see something that is wrong, you need to step in,” said Joseph Giacalone, a former New York police sergeant who now teaches at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. “There are a lot of gray areas in policing, but this was crystal clear. … You’re better off being ostracized by the group than going to prison for murder.”


[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Punishments don't really work.


[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to either flatout throw someone out, or reward them for behaving correctly.


[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will never, ever solve this problem by just slapping the bad cop.


[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to actively reward the one who reported him.


[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/michellehux/status/1269751171318779906

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DEFUND POLICE. ABOLISH POLICE. (@MichelleHux)
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LITERALLY A WEEK AGO IF YOU SAID ABOLISH THE POLICE PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU WERE BEING AN UNREALISTIC EXTREMIST LMAO
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[08-Jun-20 08:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Insanity


[08-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is kind of a core problem to getting people to fess up in gov't to begin with.


[08-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't very often makes token moves to say whistleblowing is okay


[08-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it NEVER rewards people for whistleblowing, and turns a blind eye when they're gone after.


[08-Jun-20 08:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the past few administrations have been especially notorious on going after whistleblowers


[08-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Added Andrew Scott, a former Boca Raton, Florida, police chief who testifies in use-of-force cases: “They’re suffering the effects of an organizational culture that doesn’t allow that or reward that behavior. The fraternity of law enforcement is a tight fraternity and fraternities have a group think.”


[08-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
the article mentions that


[08-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-04/how-camden-new-jersey-reformed-its-police-department


[08-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
> Across the U.S., protesters have taken to the streets to express rage after the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer, Derek Chauvin. The demonstrations themselves have led to more police shows of force. In Brooklyn, two cops rammed their New York City Police Department SUVs into a crowd of protesters. In Philadelphia, officers sprayed tear gas at demonstrators who were penned in between a highway and a fence.
> 
> But across the Delaware River from Philadelphia in Camden, N.J. (population 74,000), officers left the riot gear at home and brought an ice cream truck to a march on May 30. The police department’s chief, Joseph Wysocki, who is white, brandished a “Standing in Solidarity” poster alongside residents holding “Black Lives Matter” signs.


[08-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
> The transformation began after the 2012 homicide spike. The department wanted to put more officers on patrol but couldn’t afford to hire more, partly because of generous union contracts. So in 2013, the mayor and city council dissolved the local PD and signed an agreement for the county to provide shared services. The new county force is double the size of the old one, and officers almost exclusively patrol the city. (They were initially nonunion but have since unionized.) Increasing the head count was a trust-building tactic, says Thomson, who served as chief throughout the transition: Daily, noncrisis interactions between residents and cops went up. Police also got de-escalation training and body cameras, and more cameras and devices to detect gunfire were installed around the city.


[08-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
> While many departments define “reasonable” force in the line of duty vaguely, Camden’s definition is much clearer. The department adopted an 18-page use-of-force policy in 2019, developed with New York University’s Policing Project. The rules emphasize that de-escalation has to come first. Deadly force—such as a chokehold or firing a gun—can only be used in certain situations, once every other tactic has been exhausted. “It requires that force is not only reasonable and necessary, but that it’s proportionate,” says Farhang Heydari, executive director of the Policing Project. Most important, “they’re requirements. They’re not suggestions.”


[08-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
> An officer who sees a colleague violating the edict must intervene; the department can fire any officer it finds acted out of line. By the department’s account, reports of excessive force complaints in Camden have dropped 95% since 2014.


[08-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
huh, bloomberg has a tl;dr at the end of the article


[08-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
> BOTTOM LINE - After rebuilding its police force, Camden drove down homicides and reined in use of excessive force. Local activists say police-community relations could still be better.


[08-Jun-20 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
that's an impressive drop, but did arrests drop too?


[08-Jun-20 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
did the police refuse to enforce unjust laws?


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
> In a 2015 report, the American Civil Liberties Union praised Camden for its reforms but noted a “significant increase in low-level arrests and summonses.” The department says it’s mindful of overpursuing petty offenses. “We know when we police a city that has 30% of the residents under the poverty line, a $400 speeding ticket or ticket in general would be absolutely devastating financially,” says Dan Keashen, a spokesman for the Camden County Police Department.


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
oh, it's a county police department


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
not city


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] byte[]#2610
so they fucked it


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] byte[]#2610
lul


[08-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
> Community organizer Ayinde Merrill and other activists are pushing to create a civilian review board for cases in which force is used. Merrill says the May 30 march felt co-opted by police and city leaders: “We didn’t feel as though the police were truly standing with us. If you’re truly standing with us, come and march with us in plain clothes.”


[08-Jun-20 09:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/poll-america-spiraling-e4fbdd06-ee1f-432b-bfdf-7a7cc25c4eb4.html

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Poll: 80% of voters think the U.S. is spiraling out of control
The coronavirus pandemic and racial unrest have Americans pessimistic about the state of the country.
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[08-Jun-20 09:00 AM] byte[]#2610
That's gonna be a yikes from me


[08-Jun-20 09:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/upw0ca2del351.jpg

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[08-Jun-20 09:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> So many times I see the cops just crash into a car, shoot the driver dead, then drive away, presumably to do this again. They even leave their dead there. It’s programmed in.

> Yeah I think that happens in GTA too

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[08-Jun-20 09:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Everyone please vote Trump PLEASE


[08-Jun-20 09:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump is the best president ever


[08-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
chinese psyops agent confirmed


[08-Jun-20 09:09 AM] byte[]#2610
🇨🇳


[08-Jun-20 09:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't want Trump to leave


[08-Jun-20 09:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:sad:


[08-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/politics/trump-military-troops-protests.html

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The president said National Guard soldiers would withdraw “now that everything is under perfect control,” even as three former Joint Chiefs chairmen condemned his use of military force.
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[08-Jun-20 09:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How much is the support rate of Trump today? Is he hopefully to be reelected?


[08-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically 50/50


[08-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Very little, but trump supporters are very vocal and dedicated


[08-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[08-Jun-20 09:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By 50/50 you mean 100%?


[08-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50% chance of re-election at this point


[08-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's way closer to 50/50 than I expected


[08-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odds in Vegas are Biden wins, but barely


[08-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes Americans gamble on who will become president


[08-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You're listed as mod and assistant :lyrathonk:


[08-Jun-20 09:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'll burn incense to pray for Trump


[08-Jun-20 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
🙏


[08-Jun-20 09:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Biden is too unmemeable, we can't let him become the president


[08-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Some people just want to watch the `USA` burn


[08-Jun-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/Wf4cea5oObY

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Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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Connect with La...
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[08-Jun-20 09:33 AM] byte[]#2610
(Region locked)


[08-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Synfag#9241
if Biden wins
whoever the VP will be President


[08-Jun-20 09:35 AM] Synfag#9241
dunno if Joe will last long
looking at his present condition


[08-Jun-20 09:44 AM] zylgchs#4073
Both covid and protest had made Trump look pretty bad


[08-Jun-20 09:45 AM] zylgchs#4073
But he was also seen as unlikely to win in the first election, which he won


[08-Jun-20 09:45 AM] zylgchs#4073
we'll just have to wait and see


[08-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Synfag#9241
whoever wins, everybody will have a hearty laugh.


[08-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/slavtrapgod/status/1267062658336911360

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This will be remembered as the single best moment of these riots. https://t.co/KmT6egRkAG
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[08-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[08-Jun-20 10:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc someone mentioned that someone got beat up and then told their assaulters he had AIDS


[08-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Crow#5457
yeah I know, just the reaction is wat


[08-Jun-20 11:52 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/iam_johnw/status/1269794782047621121?s=21

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Terry crews pr team pulling up to his mansion after his black supremacy tweet  https://t.co/4Amhw2MEi3
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[08-Jun-20 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1269868521212674048?s=20

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A person drove into a crowd of Seattle protesters on Sunday night, authorities said, and one person was shot. The Seattle Police Department said the driver was in custody. https://t.co/IPC93o1EtF https://t.co/rLh7asAUK8
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[08-Jun-20 12:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-oliver-goes-nuclear-on-trump-for-invoking-george-floyd-utterly-fucking-disgusting

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The “Last Week Tonight” host couldn’t believe the president invoked the slain man’s name in a jobs speech—nor can he believe how much people are focusing on looters.
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[08-Jun-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9_qGOa9Go

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[08-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
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[08-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[08-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
the dude in that car shot someone who tried to stop him from running people over


[08-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
and then flashed a thumbs up at the police while they let him pass the line


[08-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1269902896390234112

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We have to talk about what happened at the East Precinct today. Not just because a handful of heroes selflessly put themselves in danger to protect their community, but because it is perfectly illustrative why SPD is as dangerous as it is unnecessary.
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[08-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/camerongrey/status/1269899831901749249

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JUST IN: Additional view of the man who drove into traffic and shot a man earlier tonight on Pine and 11th during the #seattleprotest #seattle he obviously not “white” and appears to have the gun in his pocket. Is taken without incident. Police seem unthreatened. https://t.co...
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[08-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
that dude who tried to run people over claimed they were trying to jack his car


[08-Jun-20 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
now that there's sound though, he wasn't showing a thumbs up, he was pointing backwards


[08-Jun-20 01:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/monilopez827/status/1269304782902132741

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Man being arrested for “Mad Dogging” an officer! This needs to STOP ✋ https://t.co/okGUoeJbyY
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[08-Jun-20 01:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He be like. hey guys. see you at work tomorrow.


[08-Jun-20 02:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
I wonder if Yang would also make it so all their property is held communally

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[08-Jun-20 02:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[08-Jun-20 02:43 PM] PwnyPony#6185
There are a lot of statues to pulldown in the UK.


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[08-Jun-20 03:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Waiting for someone to shout ***gun***


[08-Jun-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jun-20 03:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Stumbled into self awareness


[08-Jun-20 03:14 PM] AaronMk#4499
Police: <Exist>
French Firefighters: The eternal enemy!
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[08-Jun-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This was earlier in the year.


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[08-Jun-20 03:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[08-Jun-20 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
apparently that defaced image is fake


[08-Jun-20 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
jesus fucking christ


[08-Jun-20 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
the monument is currently covered in plywood due to renovations


[08-Jun-20 03:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.wcvb.com/article/shaw-54th-regiment-memorial-defaced/32733306

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Shaw 54th Regiment Memorial defaced during protests
A monument recognizing the first all-volunteer black regiment of the Union Army during the Civil War was defaced during Sunday's protests.
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[08-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
> The monument, which stands across from the Massachusetts State House, is currently surrounded in plywood to protect it while it undergoes restoration to reinforce the sword held by Robert Gould Shaw.


[08-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/dreamboum/status/1269829137688154114?s=20

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Since people seem to be fascinated by french protest lore. The cops vs firefighter fight is only beaten by that one time a retired national boxing champion decided to enter the ring one last time. https://t.co/CWE8aQzHbI
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[08-Jun-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it isn't fake, that's just the front of the monument that's covered in plywood


[08-Jun-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
it's the back of the monument that got defaced


[08-Jun-20 03:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes.
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[08-Jun-20 03:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That is how it looked.


[08-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Kinda funny.


[08-Jun-20 03:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like in that "if they could read" meme.


[08-Jun-20 03:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They TL;DR


[08-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr black lives matter


[08-Jun-20 05:08 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/osu-graduate-22-dies-after-attending-protests-in-columbus/article_dcadd6b2-a75d-11ea-94c3-e7751ddd6d55.html

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OSU graduate, 22, dies after attending protests in Columbus
A 22-year-old Ohio State University graduate died May 30 following protests in Columbus, according to television station WCMH.
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[08-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr US police gas a jew to death

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[08-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if antifa is being quiet to build up something big


[08-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
though I doubt they'll ever do anything on a national scale


[08-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
they might fight white supremacists and neofascists who hold rallies locally, but it's unlikely they'll organize on a scale beyond their local communities


[08-Jun-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-prepares-new-laws-to-prevent-foreign-takeovers-china-2020-6

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The UK steps up its fight with China by preparing tough new laws to...
New laws could make it compulsory for British firms to report attempted takeovers that could create risks to national security.
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[08-Jun-20 05:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just realized he is often so shaggy.


[08-Jun-20 05:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[08-Jun-20 05:32 PM] Synfag#9241
I notice that it's always a picture where his hair is at it's messiest


[08-Jun-20 05:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's up with  "morning pasta factory accident" haircut?


[08-Jun-20 05:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Synfag heard he has a very bad rep for saying dumb things, maybe that is why.


[08-Jun-20 05:33 PM] Synfag#9241
let me guess...


[08-Jun-20 05:33 PM] Synfag#9241
Brexit


[08-Jun-20 05:33 PM] Synfag#9241
of course the journaists there in the UK hold a grudge


[08-Jun-20 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It takes its toll, I suppose.


[08-Jun-20 05:34 PM] Synfag#9241
looks like they are hellbent on making him look bad after that


[08-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Synfag#9241
and also he's white.


[08-Jun-20 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> and also he's white
Nah he's just a tory


[08-Jun-20 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All tories belong in the gallows so


[08-Jun-20 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-Jun-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Things reactionaries say that would be cool if true


[08-Jun-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm so used to the messy hair, it just looks weird when his hair is clean

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[08-Jun-20 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Weird


[08-Jun-20 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's like he skinned off several young yellow chickens and grafted their feathers into his head


[08-Jun-20 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like a bootleg Trump of sorts


[08-Jun-20 05:43 PM] Synfag#9241
reminds me of that Bannon interview where it was found out that a slight red hue filter was applied on Bannon's face to make him look more menacing


[08-Jun-20 05:43 PM] Synfag#9241
it was funny tho


[08-Jun-20 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such is the media trying to deflect blame from its systemic failures into a cabal of agitators or connivers and all


[08-Jun-20 05:44 PM] Synfag#9241
made him look like he had high blood pressure


[08-Jun-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He does it on purpose


[08-Jun-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When he's in meetings and in private his hair is well kept


[08-Jun-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As soon as he's about to go in public he shaggies up his hair


[08-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes him look less like the public school "elite" that he is


[08-Jun-20 05:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of an old Brazilian president named Jânio Quadros who used to keep his politician suit dirty and messy to keep with the masses symbolically or smth


[08-Jun-20 05:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just give up the business suit entirely 4head


[08-Jun-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lula did that and it kinda worked


[08-Jun-20 06:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Could it be even remotely possible that in Roger Goodell’s rather interesting statement of peace and reconciliation, he was intimating that it would now be O.K. for the players to KNEEL, or not to stand, for the National Anthem, thereby disrespecting our Country & our Flag?
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[08-Jun-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's nothing written anywhere important about how to pledge allegiance


[08-Jun-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell there';s nothing specifically saying you HAVE to pledge allegience in the first place


[08-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hell, before WW2 it was common to do an ave caesar, aka hitler salute, while pledging


[08-Jun-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they really wanted to, nfl teams could just sit down and refuse the pledge entirely, there's literally nothing stopping them


[08-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You shouldn't have the anthem during sports games


[08-Jun-20 06:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/SeattlePD/status/1269474731717087233

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At about 7:30 p.m. demonstrators outside the East Precinct began moving barricades at 11th and Pine despite multiple requests from police to stop.  Individuals began throwing rocks/bottles/and explosives at officers. Several officers injured due to improvised explosives.
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[08-Jun-20 06:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds like neither side is going to reason.
Wonder what will be the outcome.


[08-Jun-20 06:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also I am not sure why the photo is showing a wax candle


[08-Jun-20 06:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[08-Jun-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, given the tweet is from a police department, they may be trying to spread false narratives to justify certain actions


[08-Jun-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the candles are probably supposed to be the "explosives"


[08-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[08-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
As a person who sent me this said - `if it's scented does it count as chemical warfare?`

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[08-Jun-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh god he;s got a a chemical orange bomb! *citrus candle*


[08-Jun-20 07:01 PM] ononim#8141
I remember reading article that described protestors throwing gas grenades back at cops as them "assaulting officers with deadly weapon lol


[08-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Deadly wood planks?


[08-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
also


[08-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
THEY DID IT 
THE MADMAN ACTUALLY DID IT
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[08-Jun-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
>She wasn't bottomless to begin with


[08-Jun-20 07:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Damn

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[08-Jun-20 07:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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Video footage of man driving his car into #BlackLivesMatter protest in Seattle and shooting a man through the window before he flees. 
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[08-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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@SeanNyberg here's the gunshot cropped from the Seattle Times https://t.co/9vRQhQtrBF https://t.co/UIeDty03Uv
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[08-Jun-20 07:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Looks more like a self-defence rather than assault from this footage.
He literally shot only the guy who tried to pull him out all while people threw bricks at his car.
Doesn't really seem like he actively tried to run over any people as well.
Clickbait news and articles, smh.


[08-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
he was driving way too fast for the driving conditions, he only slowed down after people started throwing shit at his car


[08-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Mob was throwing things at his car


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And swarmed him


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
he was also not supposed to be driving on that street, he somehow got past a police line


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
the entire street was supposed to have been closed down to traffic


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
*stares at message:* https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438412674326331432/719599948630589560


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Blizzard:
Please do not interrupt Black Liv-
Wait, is there a free Hong Kong protest?
BRB, gotta interrupt that


[08-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
okie dokie, that is all


[08-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
the fact of the matter is that he was driving 15-20 mph when he was literally surrounded by people, then people started throwing shit at his car after they leapt out of the way


[08-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
driving faster than 10mph was unsafe


[08-Jun-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
I linked some shit about it earlier, but they actually used a piece of a disassembled barricade the police improperly assembled (if it had been properly assembled, they wouldn't have been able to disassemble it) to stop his car entirely


[08-Jun-20 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
@Ltmajordude https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/718523934890393600/image0.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/718523958647062568/image0.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/718523959095591012/image1.jpg

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[08-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Crow yeah. That will be interesting to know how he happened to be there. Not sure you'd go with a handgun and a small car if you plan to do what he was accused of. It looks more like a confusion and panic rn.
>driving faster than 10mph was unsafe
Also all drivers know what happens to those who get caught into crowd - they get pulled out and beaten to death (like that trucker in LA)


[08-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Trucker somehow survived I know


[08-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He became a cripple tho


[08-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
the only truckers I've seen pulled from their trucks and beaten are the ones who ran through crowds of people


[08-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Employers are to be blamed there


[08-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Truckers can't just turn away from the planned route or know all the latest news


[08-Jun-20 07:54 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
I like it when big name companies tweet, we hate racism, next. lolol


[08-Jun-20 07:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So far in this case it seems like police failed to isolate protesters fully and somehow stray confused guy gets scared of mob chasing him down the street (if he stopped, he would get beaten up for sure, you can see crowd running after his car from beginning). It is a miracle he managed to get away actually.


[08-Jun-20 07:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But people already made him a super-fascist terrorist armed to teeth
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Seattle. Tonight. 

This man in the Black car, a known white supremacist, was clearly planning to run protestors in Seattle over. People filming saw it unfolding. 

He then shoots a man. 

Gets out of the car brandishing his gun.

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[08-Jun-20 07:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Talk about exaggeration


[08-Jun-20 07:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:notbestpony:


[08-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also some people are clearly provoking drivers.

>block the road
>stand in front of the passing car
>shoot into driver
>call it a self-defense
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Video shows moments surrounding Alamosa protest shooting
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[08-Jun-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.startribune.com/officers-slashed-tires-on-vehicles-parked-amid-minneapolis-protests-unrest/571105692/

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Officers slashed tires on vehicles parked amid Minneapolis protests...
Dozens of vehicles left in Kmart lot were targeted, said one victimized driver.
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[08-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
> “State Patrol troopers strategically deflated tires ... in order to stop behaviors such as vehicles driving dangerously and at high speeds in and around protesters and law enforcement,” he said.


[08-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
how the fuck does this do literally anything to solve the problem?


[08-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Damned if they do, damned if they don't xD
I think it was in response to that driver "driving dangerously"
Really stupid solution too


[08-Jun-20 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
nope, the driver going down the closed street was in seattle


[08-Jun-20 08:43 PM] Crow#5457
the tire slashing is in minneapolis


[08-Jun-20 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

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Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says
Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, said the WHO's Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove.
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[08-Jun-20 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
that... doesn't seem right


[08-Jun-20 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
the virus wouldn't have been able to spread nearly as quickly if asymptomatic spreading was "very rare"


[08-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Some of relatives knew people who thought "it is just a cold" or were scared of seeking help


[08-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So I'd account for that too


[08-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/the-us-entered-a-recession-in-february-according-to-the-official-economic-arbiter.html

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The U.S. entered a recession in February, according to the official...
"The unprecedented magnitude of the decline in employment and production, and its broad reach across the entire economy, warrants the designation of this episode as a recession," the NBER said.
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[08-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[08-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We're one step away from "Anyone that doesn't vote trump is treasonous"


[08-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Trump is The People now?


[08-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[08-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Btw, did anyone try to actually impeach him recently?


[08-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I recall there were talks about it when he wanted his Wall


[08-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There were rumours about a second impeachment attempt but nothing came out of it afaik


[08-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbr.com/us-military-lose-space-force-trademark-netflix/amp/ :lul:

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US Military Could Lose Space Force Trademark to Netflix Series
The United States announced its Space Force first, but Netflix's streaming series was first to launch, meaning it might win a trademark war.
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[08-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've watched the series btw, and it's hilarious because they *tried* to write a really incompetent joke thing


[08-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
but the writers kind of don't know enuff about how bad the US is lately at space stuff


[08-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
so the fictional farcical Space Force actually does a lot more than NASA.


[08-Jun-20 09:20 PM] wren#0114
it got dum at the end


[08-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was dumb at the beginning.


[08-Jun-20 09:21 PM] wren#0114
lel


[08-Jun-20 09:21 PM] wren#0114
the space force show will likely be remembered longer than the actual space force


[08-Jun-20 09:21 PM] wren#0114
compare how little we know of the most ancient civilizations, but we get like a couple of their stories


[08-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/LoveJudyHopps/status/1268156288627871744

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Judy Hopps making a lawful arrest!
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[08-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[08-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stooped had a screenshot of it with shit censored, but it's easily findable on twitter.


[08-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm really disapointed that she has clothes on tbh.


[08-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, the YCH thing made it seem like it was mainly sexual in nature and just a sort of "who cares about the optics" situation.


[08-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
But it's clearly someone who actually thinks it's okay to do that shit.


[08-Jun-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
maybe the winner requested it?


[08-Jun-20 09:56 PM] RYDE#8862
Poor taste I believe


[08-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
"blue lives matter" says not so much poor taste as they legit think the officer was justified to kill Floyd.


[08-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I feel bad for finding these funny. Most are pretty terrible cut and paste though. Not a whole lot of creativity


[08-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Now one with a villain putting their knee on Luffy's neck with him just stretching it out super far trying to pull it out, that would be funny


[08-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Just me? Well nevermind then


[08-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
_crickets chirping_


[08-Jun-20 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
oh. just noticed Nick's MAGA hat on twitter avatar


[08-Jun-20 10:24 PM] illumnious#7938
Still?????? https://www.nbc12.com/2020/06/08/commonwealths-attorney-man-who-drove-through-group-protesters-is-leader-kkk/

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Commonwealth’s Attorney: Man who drove through group of protesters ...
Police say a man has been arrested after driving through a group of protesters Sunday evening.
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[08-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, I didn't even notice the avatar


[08-Jun-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-nixes-golf-club-visit-over-potential-bad-optics-amid-n1226776

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The president ultimately agreed with advisers that the trip could be problematic as thousands of protesters descended on the White House on Saturday to protest the killing of George Floyd
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[08-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, *now* he's worried about his image


[08-Jun-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Jun-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/niktaylorde/status/1269838832066793473?s=19

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Kaitlin, that's the USA when there is police https://t.co/F5ZkJu3Nge
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[08-Jun-20 11:25 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Only in Democrat cities. My city is untouched and functional. I wonder how the fires would look if you mapped it to political standings.


[08-Jun-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also depends on who started the fires


[08-Jun-20 11:26 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
All we know for sure is we didn't start the fire


[08-Jun-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was always burning since the world's been turning


[08-Jun-20 11:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Cities lean democrat in general, you know


[08-Jun-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
So by saying "only in democrat cities" there's sort of a subtle slant to that


[08-Jun-20 11:28 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
My instinct tells me it was a handful of agitators that began the riots in various places. You have large groups of people on edge already, all it takes is a few broken windows to begin the snowball. It's the broken window theory


[08-Jun-20 11:28 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Probably the group Project Veritas exposed


[08-Jun-20 11:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
The clown has arrived


[08-Jun-20 11:29 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
I'm aware they lean that way. It was tongue in cheek


[08-Jun-20 11:30 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
The deep blue cities blame Republicans for their problems despite being a super majority for a hundred years


[08-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Explain West Virginia, please.


[08-Jun-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, the polls are actually super close, and even that company admits that they are.


[08-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The polls that actually are trustworthy are within the margin of error either way.


[08-Jun-20 11:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
I get the impression Veritas only looked at AntiFa memes and went, "Ah yes, CEO of AntiFa. This means they are highly organized!"


[08-Jun-20 11:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
So like, talking about Veritas as if they are serious is being triple memed


[08-Jun-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Jun-20 11:41 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
I don't know enough about West Virginia to know what you're talking about


[08-Jun-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/03/lgbt-bar-raleigh-north-carolina-ruby-deluxe-tim-lemuel-black-lives-matter-police-brutality-racism

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Police open fire on queer bar giving first aid and washing pepper s...
An LGBT+ bar owner in North Carolina was fired at by police during ongoing Black Lives Matter protests for running a first aid station on his own property.
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[08-Jun-20 11:42 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
As for AntiFa, I'd assume they do have a core of highly organized people which are the ones receiving and distributing funding, then they send the useful idiots off to do the actual dirty work


[08-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mr. Antifa yes


[08-Jun-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, you are speaking to the CEO of AntiFa.


[08-Jun-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I can personally vouch for Aaron being the CEO of Antifa


[08-Jun-20 11:51 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Hilarious.


[08-Jun-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways, time for actual serious policy discussion and not right-wing memery that is about as constructive as Memri TV. https://youtu.be/I0OUsnaD0uc

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The Logic of Abolishing the Police
Ben Burgis, the author of Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left, evaluates the logic behind the various demands coming out of the protests around the murder of George Floyd. Should we abolish the police? Defund the police? Overthrow the value-form of capitalism? Find out.
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[08-Jun-20 11:54 PM] Honahue#0656
people want to believe there's a secret organization behind this cause they can't believe that a large amount of people are legitimately just that mad about society

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[08-Jun-20 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Logical dissection of the call to "Abolish the police" and what that really means and what it means, and how to turn it into an actual political policy with tangible goals and aims that isn't replacing them with rent-a-cop or a renamed police force.


[08-Jun-20 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
> people want to believe there's a secret organization behind this cause they can't believe that a large amount of people are legitimately just that mad about society
@Honahue 
Secret societies are fucking fun, but you have to realize they're not that big of a deal or you end up yelling at clouds. There may be some, but they're not that big of a deal. They're a result more than a cause.


[08-Jun-20 11:55 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
I believe it doesn't take much to push people into doing something stupid, and I believe there are people who have that down to a science


[08-Jun-20 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
We don't need to push anyone down anything because it's been done anyways. There's no one in command.


[08-Jun-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
antifa for the most part is just whoever shows up to counter protest alt right protests and marches


[08-Jun-20 11:57 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Or agitate and begin riots


[08-Jun-20 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
And even at its least radical, AntiFa is really nothing more than various liberal types just trying to preserve democracy from what they see is the rise of autocracy and tyranny. To describe AntiFa is a lot easier than Project Veritas makes it out to be. To be AntiFa all you need to be is Anti Fascist, in whatever description you have of Fascism, and you take an active roll in keeping it out of democracy.


[08-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Honahue#0656
the secret organizations are just libertarian Freedom Caucus for USA Freedom and they mostly exist to get tax breaks, employ conservative fail children and on occation astroturf a protest about getting back to work or that taxes are too high


[08-Jun-20 11:58 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
kek, liberal types


[08-Jun-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Antifa at this point is basically Antimon


[08-Jun-20 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
You can throw bricks at cops and punch Richard Spencer as an anti-fascist move and call yourself and for you to be called AntiFa, or you could be someone as subtle and quiet as Hope Not Hate and infiltrate believed and known fascist and supremacist groups to gather intel for prosecutors and even find people to de-radicalize and keep the groups weak.


[08-Jun-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because conservatives aren't fascists a lot of them time


[08-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're neo-monarchists


[08-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People forget the "Dark Enlightenment" was a belief thrown around a while back


[08-Jun-20 11:59 PM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Ah yes, with that brush that covers everyone that isn't themselves


[09-Jun-20 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Because conservatives aren't fascists a lot of them time
@Itsthinking 

A lot of people have a lot of confused definitions of fascism that don't really work and would call a monarchist a fascist. Which OK, good: resist the monarchists. But they don't mean fascism. If the Partisan movement in Mussolini's  Italy proves anything it's that Monarchists can resist fascism because fascism represents something anti-thetical to even them


[09-Jun-20 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
> People forget the "Dark Enlightenment" was a belief thrown around a while back
@Itsthinking 

We also forgot everything from before last year


[09-Jun-20 12:01 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
It's a useless term. Calling yourself anti-fascist doesn't make you anti-fascist if your actions are the opposite of that. That's not how it works. Fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.


[09-Jun-20 12:02 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
AntiFa thinks itself the dictator that will forcibly tell people how to live under threat of violence, violently suppresses opposition, and is openly racist against white people in particular


[09-Jun-20 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything you proved the unviability of the definition.


[09-Jun-20 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything in the course of US history either side has been fascist too.


[09-Jun-20 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because you are arguing from pure idealism


[09-Jun-20 12:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
Which is straight naivity.


[09-Jun-20 12:03 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Right, I forgot your types like to simply redefine words so they don't apply to you, a la 1984


[09-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Read another book.


[09-Jun-20 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Nice Ad Hominem I'll put it in my files.


[09-Jun-20 12:04 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
New speak


[09-Jun-20 12:04 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Like redefining racism to mean prejudice + power

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[09-Jun-20 12:05 AM] TheDrizzle404#7709
Anyway, the mods took care of my issue so I'll be stepping out of your circle-jerk


[09-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
You never added anything anyways. And given how quick you blew up: never would have.


[09-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
You will not be missed


[09-Jun-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Says a lot about our society


[09-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
We live in one, in fact.


[09-Jun-20 12:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
Let he and the Dems bleed each other out in the street, and let the real worker's movement replace them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BskL-ga4DLk

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[09-Jun-20 12:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder the Civil Rights movement of the 60's had the right idea when figures like King and James Baldwin identified the material basis of racism and inequality in the US stemming from inadequacies of labor and King was killed for saying black people should have jobs, and thus ascend from the ranks of the lumpen and into the proletariat and thus become unionized.


[09-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Adolph Reed Jr recognizes this same problem with the current left
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/04/04/disparity-ideology-coronavirus-and-danger-return-racial-medicine

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Disparity Ideology, Coronavirus, and the Danger of the Return of Ra...
Why "race" is less useful—both empirically and politically—than ever as a proxy for the social conditions of poverty, lack of healthcare, and mass inequality... In the past few days, liberal Democrats Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, and Rep.
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[09-Jun-20 12:12 AM] AaronMk#4499
A time like this would be nice if I had some sort of connections to a more substantial or radical organization I can use as an excuse as to why the protesting youths should develop a conceptual understanding of race relations beyond the pure moral idealism.


[09-Jun-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Meaning: why aren't you in a union, and using that union to help get more people of color into your union, to give them and your coworkers a political advantage in leveraging demands against your bosses?


[09-Jun-20 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
Baldwin be like, "man slavery was bad not just because of morality but because the man who owned the worker owned the entirety of their labor"


[09-Jun-20 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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This isn’t remarkable in the Times - it’s consistent with much of their output over the previous decade, and they just leave it to the likes of Mel and Liddle to say it outright. The very best you can say about the paper is, it’s staffed by reckless and disingenuous shitehawk...
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[09-Jun-20 12:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man if only the world was what the conservative pundits say it is.


[09-Jun-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
A revolution would be p lit rn ngl


[09-Jun-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
But we're probably going to postpone it through a series of elections just to see what happens, because maybe this time X will win.


[09-Jun-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gonna need Trump to ape out and cancel the 2020 season though


[09-Jun-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In regards to the post i shared... there's this Portuguese word called *ladainha*, literally "prayer bead". It refers to a catholic christian practice of saying a prayer for every bead that's in a string


[09-Jun-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's become a metaphor for things that keep being repeated over and over and over despite no further elaboration being possible


[09-Jun-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All this bullshit about "western civilization"? Fits right into that


[09-Jun-20 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
When a ritual that in many ways should inspire contemplation becomes merely a ritual for self comfort.


[09-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Edward Colston (2 November 1636 – 11 October 1721) was an English merchant, slave trader..."


[09-Jun-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Should not have a statue


[09-Jun-20 12:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy fuck


[09-Jun-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What do you mean, its? The naturally SJW Germans should have a statue of Hitler in every city!


[09-Jun-20 12:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
When you bring a bunch of money into your home town during the age of mercantilism


[09-Jun-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So they... don't forget their history!


[09-Jun-20 12:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
> So they... don't forget their history!
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

The irony of statues is there's probably a hundred for every one statue of someone we do widely known about, but who aren't that well known. I can't remember the individual I'm thinking of but there's a guy from old New York who had a statue put up somewhere, only to become overlooked by his rival who got a larger statue across the way who became more well known but who arguably did less than the other guy.


[09-Jun-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
http://theneedling.com/2020/04/19/mayor-durkan-assures-no-tear-gas-deployed-only-sparkling-nose-irritants/

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Mayor Durkan Assures No Tear Gas Deployed, Only Sparkling Nose Irri...
A mere 24 hours after Mayor Jenny Durkan declared a 30-day ban on the use of tear gas, the Mayor’s Office assured the people of Seattle that the gas deployed at yesterday’s Black Lives Matter prote…
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[09-Jun-20 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Satire site fyi


[09-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
aww


[09-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a damn new satire site popping up every week now


[09-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hard to keep up with all the names, especially now that we have the white house saying CS gas isn't tear gas...


[09-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Honahue#0656
how can anyone start a satire site now a days it's impossible to satirize the US


[09-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't know why they try anymore, reality overtook satire years ago


[09-Jun-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
The structure of a statue or a monument is less about the commemoration of history and retaining it in the public consciousness and more to do with the propaganda of the time and place; of when it was erected or when it still stands. The propaganda of the memorialization fails when the thing commemorated is no longer relevant or taught. An argument could be made that the vandalization of the back end of the all-black Civil War unit is due in part to a failure of education, which is alligned with the existence of the Lumpenproletariat taking advantage of the situation, or over-enthusiastic petit-boug kids looking to hang their name on a movement of the time.


[09-Jun-20 12:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
God damn, Seattle.


[09-Jun-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
I suppose you can skirt any ban if you call a thing by another name.


[09-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking here's the REALLY shitty part tho


[09-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was called "revered philanthropist/reviled slave trader" by a place that wanted to try to be "neutral" about it, the Museum of Bristol.


[09-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He specified in his philanthropy stuff that beneficiaries should share his religious beliefs.


[09-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fundamental fact we hav to akknowledge here is that even the people that are going "well yes he was a colorful character..." ARE WRONG


[09-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
THEY JUST WANT TO KEEP ENSHRINING RACISM


[09-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was a fukking scumbag who didn't deserve shit.


[09-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Was he part of one of those weird 17th century variants of Protestantism that was super strict and racist


[09-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like more than usual


[09-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, because I posted it in the wrong chat


[09-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/501685-joe-bidens-ideal-vp-is-condoleezza-rice

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Joe Biden's ideal VP is Condoleezza Rice
Most independents are looking for more than someone on the left with a running mate who is even further to the left.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/ricecondoleezza_031114getty.jpg


[09-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anglican.


[09-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So yeah


[09-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was deeply politically involved with the Tories.


[09-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted to feed the non-catholic poor in order to boot out the Whigs.


[09-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy is as close to a conservative icon as you can be.


[09-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Merchant family-born, used his money for a mix of philanthropy to those like him and politics, hugely influential.


[09-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically people like him are why we're where we are.


[09-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tearing down his statue is about as symbolic as you can get.


[09-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy used money from slave trading to create further divisions in society.


[09-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of his money that didn't go to education went to workhouses btw.


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even really see people who held slaves/traded slaves as human


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, the "we provide housing and you won't die if you work here forever because that's how you become a good person" kind.


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He didn't directly.


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Killing Confederate soldiers is as harmless as killing rats or cockroaches


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was one of the rich fukks profiting off it without being actually on the ships.


[09-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And just as important


[09-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The modern equivalent would be some guy shouting on the stokk market about how great it is Trump got elected as he trades stokk in companies that are burning the rainforest to the ground.


[09-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And funnels money to a mix of Trump's reelection campaign and Christian-only charities.


[09-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/501662-feehery-how-trump-can-turn-the-protests-into-parades-dedicated-to-making

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Feehery: How Trump can turn the protests into parades dedicated to ...
Can Donald Trump, who has been vilified by the left and by media lead the country to a better, more unified place? He’d better try, or he is going to lose the election.
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[09-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He calls Rice "Condi"


[09-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was the spokesman for fucking _Dennis Hastert_


[09-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note 'The divisive memorial was erected in 1895, with a plaque that read: “Erected by citizens of Bristol as a memorial of one of the most virtuous and wise sons of their city.”'


[09-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy was *revered*.


[09-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The museum isn't wrong, technically.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Murderer loved by sociopaths"


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the reality of this whole situation.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The biggest scumbags make some charitable donation and help their home city to look good.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They get statues.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bristol was never good.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but Bristol was only decent cause of him.


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even during Queen Victoria it was a shithole


[09-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
He used the money from the slave trade to make it not a shithole.


[09-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the problem.


[09-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it was still a shithole, but then they got a statue of a rich guy.


[09-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you attakk the legacy of racist scumbags


[09-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
you attakk the very towns random whites now liv in.


[09-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then makes them furious.


[09-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially, a lot of people today don't care about where it all came from, or who had to die.


[09-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just think "my town good, why you say it no good?"


[09-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why the statues hav to all go.


[09-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statues make people associate the stuff they hav with the people who caused it.


[09-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If those people are racist scumbags, then people will fight tooth and nail to keep worshipping their legacies.


[09-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pull the statues out, and in 20 years, hardly anyone will remember those guys without also being actually educated on it.


[09-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is make sure that nobody **EVER** sees a confederate statue without very thuro education on why the Confederacy was a pile of shit that deserved to die beforehand.


[09-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a statue of a confederate general in the street is like flying a nazi propaganda poster in the street.


[09-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It *doesn't belong there.*


[09-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We should have banned Confederate imagery when we had the chance


[09-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it should be fine in private areas, but not public.


[09-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't should not be keeping up propaganda supporting racism.


[09-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the people's duty to destroy racist propaganda the gov't tries to keep out in public.


[09-Jun-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
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[09-Jun-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1270059322806923264

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Some protesters, news crews, and medics in Minneapolis found themselves stranded after recent protests: The tires of their cars had been slashed. 

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[09-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/poll-finds-72-voters-including-most-black-voters-have-favorable-view-local

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Poll finds 72% voters, including most black voters, have favorable ...
'Other data shows that it’s quite possible to have a positive view of both the police and the protesters—most voters do,' Rasmussen said.
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[09-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[09-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
I think this site manipulated data to come to a conclusion favorable to their narrative


[09-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-06/2020-06-08%20JTN%20Crosstabs.pdf


[09-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
they listed all of their data in percentages instead of raw values


[09-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
all of the percentages for "very favorable" and "somewhat favorable" views of respondants' police departments add up to 100%


[09-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
but all of the percentages for "somewhat unfavorable", "very unfavorable", and "not sure" views of respondants' police departments add up to well below 100%


[09-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
wow, I went through it a bit more, some of the percentages for "very favorable" and "somewhat favorable" add up to 108-109%


[09-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
someone tell me I'm wrong and just imagining this shit, there's no fucking way


[09-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
give me a reason to say I'm just crazy


[09-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess who this statue is supposed to be of

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[09-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Midknight#9798
That's the Burger King after he got isekaied to Equestria!


[09-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Midknight#9798
Tia took his crown, so he's riding off on her favorite cake chef


[09-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Midknight#9798
Burgers were thereafter banned in Canterlot. Explaining why Twilight loves them so much when she can get them!


[09-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's supposed to be Nathaniel Bedford Forrest


[09-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow 60% of the time every time.


[09-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like what they're really saying is "of those with favorable views, 72% are very favoriable" and then disguising it...


[09-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[09-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
idk if there'se a way to report this sort of shit to media bias fact check or not


[09-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
they're funded by patreon


[09-Jun-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501657-biden-campaign-opposes-calls-to-defund-the-police

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Biden campaign opposes calls to 'defund the police'
Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden's campaign said on Monday that the former vice president does not support calls to defund the police amid growing calls to do so by activists across the country.
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[09-Jun-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[09-Jun-20 02:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
US stocks are raising up quickly as fuck


[09-Jun-20 02:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How?!


[09-Jun-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the blood sacrifices are working


[09-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
States are reopening.


[09-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The virus isn't exploding that fast.


[09-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police aren't being entirely disbanded yet.


[09-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you think the virus is getting better?


[09-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who think there will be like 400-500k deaths by January


[09-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That seems more pessimistic than even my own estimate


[09-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My worst case scenario would be 200k, even with a "second wave"


[09-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/

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Just The News - Media Bias/Fact Check
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), pu...
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[09-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Crow#5457
says high for factual reporting


[09-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
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[09-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently this is circulating all over facebook


[09-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
but there's no source other than the NRA


[09-Jun-20 03:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
North Korea claimed to cut down all the network cable between they and South Korea


[09-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't realize they had any


[09-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So is that saying they stopped illegal networks, or that they retracted ones they had made?


[09-Jun-20 03:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jun-20 03:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can someone read Korea?


[09-Jun-20 03:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This is the result of Google translate:


[09-Jun-20 03:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
About taking steps to completely block all communication lines between North and South Korea-Reports from Chosun Central News Agency-Chosun / English / Chinese / Lore / Espanol / Japanese South Korean authorities seem to be forced to take their serious responsibilities with a sloppy signboard  By evading, they have tolerated the anti-republic hostilities of the rubbish, driving North-South relations to a catastrophic end point.  Even so, the entire South Korean people are angry at the betrayal and cunning of the South Korean authorities, which have a lot to calculate.  Under the reckless acts and acquiescence of the South Korean authorities, the repulsive trash dared to tackle the highest dignity, insisting on the anti-republic hostilities, taunting the sacred mental nucleus of the entire Korean people, and ultimately hostile the entire Korean people.  There can be no forgiveness or opportunity in that matter, not in any other matter.  You must pay the price.  We cannot change nothing but the highest dignity, and we will take our lives and shoot.  If you watch it, the oath oath authorities that only create revenge, and no longer take Majuang to Ikdo medicine


[09-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/501761-white-lawyer-in-wisconsin-arrested-facing-charges-after

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White lawyer in Wisconsin arrested, facing charges after spitting o...
A white lawyer in Shorewood, Wisc., has been arrested and is facing charges after she was seen in now-viral footage spitting on a black student at a local protest over the weekend,
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[09-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/06/07/shorewood-woman-taken-into-custody-spitting-minor-police-say/3170166001/

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Shorewood woman filmed spitting on protester arrested again after a...
Shorewood is seeking to charge attorney Stephanie Rapkin with battery, disorderly conduct and battery to a law enforcement officer.
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[09-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine being a lawyer and still going for "physical assault" (spitting is afaik).


[09-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh. And they shoved the guy too...


[09-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And seem to resist arrest.


[09-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Arrested twice


[09-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
At least she gave everyone an equal disrespect.


[09-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[09-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How is she lawyer tho.


[09-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bill Barr and Rudy Giuliani are lawyers


[09-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You are supposed to be very cunning and careful when you are afaik.


[09-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nixon was a lawyer, etc


[09-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Being a lawyer doesn't mean you're smart automatically


[09-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am more amazed she did nothing stupid and scornful until now.


[09-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Since she is kinda old


[09-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know Wisconsin is known for cheese, but do you have to have a cow on your state's bar page

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[09-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, Wisconsin has the "Don't be racist" rule


[09-Jun-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
i am a building

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[09-Jun-20 04:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[09-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Synfag#9241

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[09-Jun-20 04:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[09-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The whole usa deal kinda reminds me of ussr too, ngl.
Both have overinflated military budgets and internal issues which are dealt with by police (and maybe military soon).


[09-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
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[09-Jun-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"okay but i can't read the notes that means they're ***BAD***"


[09-Jun-20 05:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jun-20 05:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I got it. Our future is full of shit.


[09-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In St. Louis a concrete _is_ ice cream


[09-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically a Blizzard


[09-Jun-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/501713-president-of-chicago-police-board-hit-with-batons-during

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President of Chicago Police Board hit with batons during protest
“This is the duality I live with as a black man in America, even one who is privileged to be part of systems of power,” Foreman said.
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[09-Jun-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
uhh, what? https://i.redd.it/d6lz2ooawq351.jpg

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[09-Jun-20 06:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How I want to _accidentally_ rape a cat


[09-Jun-20 06:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
🍆 😿


[09-Jun-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.american-buffoon.com/2020/06/08/hobby-lobby-ceo-donates-14-88-million-to-white-lives-matter/

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Hobby Lobby CEO Donates $14.88 Million To "White Lives Matter" | Am...
Hobby Lobby's CEO announced the donation of $14.88 million dollars to "White Lives Matter" following other corporations donating to Black Lives Matter.
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[09-Jun-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
(satire)


[09-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hah


[09-Jun-20 06:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Synfag#9241

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[09-Jun-20 07:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[09-Jun-20 07:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is much better than the YES/NO thing from yesterday


[09-Jun-20 07:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The yes no thing from yesterday was terrible and confusing all around


[09-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
from before zooming in on the embed, I thought it said "Loss Protection"


[09-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
:loss:🛡️


[09-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Midknight#9798
The sad thing is that before I got to the (satire) tag, I thought that sounded like something that was actually plausible. We shouldn't live in a world where that is plausible. -_-


[09-Jun-20 07:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it could still happen


[09-Jun-20 07:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"political satire" is just another word for "things that are about to happen in 2020"


[09-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Midknight#9798
we had a fast food franchise ceo just donate half a million to Trump


[09-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Midknight#9798
so yeah, it could


[09-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Midknight#9798
the cashier at my local wendy's said he was about to quit when they learned it was the ceo of a franchise company, not wendy's itself 😛


[09-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Midknight#9798
sounds like mostly franchises in red states. shocker.


[09-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Midknight#9798
not.


[09-Jun-20 09:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Something to be aware of: https://old.reddit.com/r/bon_appetit/comments/gwkl3w/current_events_archive/

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r/bon_appetit - Current Events Archive
256 votes and 50 comments so far on Reddit
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[09-Jun-20 09:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr the BA test kitchen folks, and many others who are related to production there, are basically striking the YouTube channel in light of the editor resigning after a brownface photo of him surfaced (and Sohla spoke up about racial inequality at BA.)


[09-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>bon appetit
who


[09-Jun-20 09:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
big-name food magazine owned by conde nast, which not too long ago struck a goldmine in producing videos on their youtube channel, featuring personalities in their test kitchen like Brad Leone (who makes goofball videos on fermented food) and Claire Saffitz (a pastry chef who tries to recreate mass-produced snack food and is what made the channel go viral)


[09-Jun-20 09:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which evolved into being a sort of The Office-like sitcom documentary as the individual personalities of everyone who works there came out


[09-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Are bodybuilders still allowed to cover themselves in that brown shit in the year of 2020? :twismug:


[09-Jun-20 09:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar thing happen with bodybuilders, too, yeah. Maybe not just in terms of using bronzer vs. baby oil, but in terms of "oh hey there's a lot of racist stuff happening from the top down in that industry"


[09-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Synfag#9241

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[09-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Synfag of course. They yelled and ran after him.


[09-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Which is why he was driving so fast.


[09-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just took a wrong turn.


[09-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I only know conde nast from reddit


[09-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So I'mma assume it's a reddit thing


[09-Jun-20 09:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're the kind of people who are rich enough that you've never heard of them but they own your life


[09-Jun-20 09:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
fingers in many pots


[09-Jun-20 11:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Modern policing. A Twitter thread.
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[09-Jun-20 11:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/1270023344491020291

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They had a black man scrub “Churchill was a racist” off the statue then had 4 white Tory’s stand in front of it to make it look like they’d done it 🤦‍♂️
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[09-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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i'm not glacier (@glaciereal)
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holy fucking shit
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[09-Jun-20 11:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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@glaciereal Yeah... it gets worse...
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[09-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it feels like they are smoking weed while writing these


[09-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
weeds from their backyard maybe

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[09-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Dogman15#6007
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SUPERCUT!

The media's super consistent messaging on protesting during Covid19 https://t.co/Iq5hTJKcPO
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[09-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Synfag#9241

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[09-Jun-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-400k-dc-ads-to-flatter-potus-beast-2020-6

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The Trump campaign spent $400,000 on largely pointless TV ads in DC...
The president has been angered by negative polls and attack ads run in DC by a GOP group campaigning to end his presidency.
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[09-Jun-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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The bill was also proposed at the start of the Atlantic hurricane season, which according to NOAA is expected to bring about 14 to 19 names storms.
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[09-Jun-20 01:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I...


[09-Jun-20 01:15 PM] byte[]#2610
:lul:


[09-Jun-20 01:26 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.startribune.com/manufacturer-that-burned-during-mpls-riots-plans-to-move-out-of-the-city/571104922/

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Manufacturer that burned as Minneapolis protests turned violent pla...
'They didn't protect our people,' 7-Sigma owner says of city officials.
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[09-Jun-20 01:43 PM] illumnious#7938
There's officially a recession. This is why stocks are soaring. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/stocks-soar-despite-coronavirus-recession-it-s-time-reality-check-ncna1227771

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Opinion | The stock market is unhinged from our recession reality. ...
Psychological factors are making markets poor gauges of the U.S. economy's strength. We should wrench our eyeballs from the ticker tape before it's too late.
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[09-Jun-20 01:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/2020/06/08/daniel-radcliffe-responds-to-j-k-rowlings-tweets-on-gender-identity/

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Daniel Radcliffe Responds to J.K. Rowling’s Tweets on Gender Identi...
By Daniel Radcliffe I realize that certain press outlets will probably want to paint this as in-fighting between J.K. Rowling and myself, but that is […]
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[09-Jun-20 02:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Sheesh https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1270332321133182977?s=21

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NASDAQ HITS ALL-TIME HIGH!
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[09-Jun-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
he's literally looking for anything to distract people from the protests


[09-Jun-20 02:32 PM] byte[]#2610
:amd:


[09-Jun-20 02:32 PM] byte[]#2610
stonks hit all time high


[09-Jun-20 02:53 PM] illumnious#7938
And that leads me to today’s stonks

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[09-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/the-us-entered-a-recession-in-february-according-to-the-official-economic-arbiter.html

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The U.S. entered a recession in February, according to the official...
"The unprecedented magnitude of the decline in employment and production, and its broad reach across the entire economy, warrants the designation of this episode as a recession," the NBER said.
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[09-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
highest stonks ever, but during a recession


[09-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
those AI traders are craaaazy


[09-Jun-20 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
it's obvious to them that the humans got it wrong during the great depression


[09-Jun-20 03:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jun-20 03:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck already????


[09-Jun-20 03:12 PM] byte[]#2610
where's brazil lol


[09-Jun-20 03:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[09-Jun-20 03:15 PM] byte[]#2610
catching up


[09-Jun-20 03:20 PM] illumnious#7938
WTF


[09-Jun-20 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Kb9U6qFBA

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Cuck Philosophy
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The US Protests and the Struggle for Black Liberation
If you're able to help with distributing leaflets, contact Rad Shiba here: 
https://twitter.com/rad_shiba_

Various resources for protesters and their supporters:
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Summary of events:
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[09-Jun-20 03:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Blame China for all the deaths and Trump will win the election


[09-Jun-20 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
brazil is suppressing all info about their coronavirus numbers now


[09-Jun-20 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[09-Jun-20 03:25 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[09-Jun-20 03:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
inb4 10% fatality rate in Brazil


[09-Jun-20 03:27 PM] Synfag#9241

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[09-Jun-20 04:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/09/fox-black-lives-carlson/


[09-Jun-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Jun-20 04:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/make-america-great-again-pride-tee

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[09-Jun-20 04:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boYLzpwrInc

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Netflix Is A Joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boYLzpwrInc
Chris Rock & Marlon Wayans Have Solutions For Police Brutality | Ne...
Chris Rock and Marlon Wayans want to prevent bad apples in the police force. 

Watch Marlon Wayans: Woke-ish, only on Netflix. 
https://www.netflix.com/title/80134779

Watch Chris Rock: Tambourine, only on Netflix. 
https://www.netflix.com/title/80167498

SUBSCRIBE: https://bi...
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[09-Jun-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit, this aged well


[09-Jun-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
literally the only video shown of a police officer checking another police officer for getting out of line with a protester was a black female officer marching off a white male cop


[09-Jun-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_popaboywillie/status/1267257954048278529

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WillieL. (@_popaboywillie)
https://twitter.com/_popaboywillie/status/1267257954048278529
White police officer throws a girl who is already on her hands and knees BUT a BLACK QUEEN officer steps in to check him ✊🏾#share #protests2020 https://t.co/nKmvF6Oiqu
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[09-Jun-20 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSConNeRN6M

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FOX 5 DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSConNeRN6M
DC police officer dragged to his feet by colleagues after kneeling ...
A Washington, D.C. police officer was dragged to his feet by his colleagues after the officer knelt in apparent solidarity with George Floyd protesters.  https://bit.ly/2ABp5xq 


Subscribe to our channel for the latest breaking news, weather, sports and more in Washington DC,...
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[09-Jun-20 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
these comments are filled with fascist trash


[09-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
I was specifically talking about the beginning with marlon wayans, chris rock has a history of making jokes that seem to defend police brutality


[09-Jun-20 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
and it seems to be continued in that video


[09-Jun-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Chris Rock offers social commentary that makes sense to him because of his affluence


[09-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[09-Jun-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
see his skits on "Black people vs niggas" and "How to not get your ass beat by the cops"


[09-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this actually true about Japan


[09-Jun-20 05:42 PM] Crow#5457
wow, there's a guy who claims to be a cop on another server who says that it's okay to slash the tires on parked cars because people might drive into them with the cars


[09-Jun-20 05:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Today’s trend

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[09-Jun-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at that point cops might as well burn stores down citing "They could have bought weapons and replacement tires to throw at us and run us over in those stores"


[09-Jun-20 06:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[09-Jun-20 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[09-Jun-20 07:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I always say “nothing can be more repulsive and stupid than this” and he still manages to surprise me


[09-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-takes-heat-for-suggesting-man-shoved-by-buffalo-police-may-be-antifa-provocateur

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Trump takes heat for suggesting man shoved by Buffalo police may be...
President Trump on Tuesday questioned the motives of the elderly protester who was shoved by Buffalo police officers last week and hospitalized after he hit his head in the resulting fall -- drawing severe backlash from both sides of the aisle.
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[09-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even conservatives are going "no" on that one


[09-Jun-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://mynorthwest.com/1929274/spog-safety-officers-seattle-protests/

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Seattle police union demands elected officials condemn violence tow...
Mike Solan, president of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, expressed concern Monday for the safety of officers and the calls to defund the police.
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[09-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Safety of officers when they're dressed in riot gear equipped with tear gas going up against protestors equipped with water bottles and masks


[09-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Right


[09-Jun-20 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"These protestors keep violently throwing their skulls against my baton, is there anything you guys will do about that?"


[09-Jun-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"That man threw his car tires in front of my combat knife, please stop the masses!"


[09-Jun-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fox9.com/news/st-paul-police-screen-zootopia-as-part-of-anti-bias-training

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St. Paul police screen 'Zootopia' as part of anti-bias training
More than 800 employees of the St. Paul Police Department recent went through their annual equity training.
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[09-Jun-20 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please label your satire articles


[09-Jun-20 09:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have patience, i'm stupid :c


[09-Jun-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait a sec


[09-Jun-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theweek.com/speedreads/917105/st-paul-police-once-used-disneys-zootopia-part-annual-antibias-training

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St. Paul police once used Disney's Zootopia as part of annual anti-...
Disney's story of a rabbit and a fox recognizing and overcoming police bias was apparently used to educate human police officers.
More specifically, St. Paul, Minnesota's police force — which has been pulled into the protests in neighboring Minneapolis — watched Zootopia a few...
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[09-Jun-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's true?


[09-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, Zootopia probably does a better job explaining why prejudice is bad than most actual anti-bias training set up for workplaces.


[09-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder how many furries that spawned


[09-Jun-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
I hope they dont go all right wing & opposite of what Zootopia's message is


[09-Jun-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
nazifurs


[09-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man, the people who are being vetted for VP keep changing


[09-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now some people are saying the mayor of DC or Atlanta


[09-Jun-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://theintercept.com/2020/06/09/antifa-fbi-tweet/

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He Tweeted That He Was the Leader of Antifa. Then the FBI Asked Him...
The Charlotte, North Carolina, man tweeted in protest because he thought the Trump administration’s designation of antifa as a terror group was absurd.
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[09-Jun-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
> To be fair, Zootopia probably does a better job explaining why prejudice is bad than most actual anti-bias training set up for workplaces.
@Nebbie 

They should run the whole Beastars series instead and make people read the manga


[09-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So apparently Stephen Miller is writing Trump's speech on race relations....Why the hell doesn't Trump have a professional speech writer?


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't want an outside expert.


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wants his loyal sycophant.


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably tried some and they didn't sound "Trump enough"


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump does this with EVERYTHING.


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He feels special because he has *his* guy.


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Getting _Miller_ for a speech on race relations, though


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking wew


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wouldn't want some leftist doing it


[09-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
He wants someone he trusts to please the crowd and tell his base who to kill.


[09-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are they actually planning an address from the oval office or something?


[09-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump usually prefers venues he has more control over.


[09-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
This actually has me on the verge of tears right now. Trump couldn't find anyone else to do this? There was no one in the White house? or the State or the country? He could have asked some undergrade in the UK to write him one for thrity dollars. Trump is doing this on purpose and if he isn't going to take it seriously its going to be the same as throwing a match on trail of gunpowder


[09-Jun-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
>on the verge of tears


[09-Jun-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown.

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[09-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Take a deep breath, calm down give yourself an hour or two and then go and apologize to your mom.


[09-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a copy pasta


[09-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't remember the context


[09-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guessing 2016?


[09-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tendies-stories

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Tendies Stories
Tendies Stories are green text stories featuring a twenty-something man who lives at his mother’s home and constantly demands “tendies” (chicken tenders) in exchange for “good boy points” he has earned by doing chores and taking care of himself. The stories are often accompani...
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[09-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sounds childish


[09-Jun-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitalism-in-crisis-how-to-fix-capitalism-for-workers-2020-6

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Only 25% of Americans think capitalism is good for society
Business leaders like billionaire Ray Dalio have said capitalism is in crisis. A new survey shows most Americans agree, and they want specific change.
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[09-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I remembered when Preger University tried to sell me that hog wash that capitalism was this great force of change. I was lied to.


[09-Jun-20 11:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Pictured: my face when I lead a communist army to purge the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone for bad leftist LARP to piss off Red Twitter and then actually take control of Washington state

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[09-Jun-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ2kB--WkAEH6v2?format=png&name=orig 
so are you going to dethrone god

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[09-Jun-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes


[09-Jun-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
Do you not see this chad face?

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[09-Jun-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is the face of dethroning god


[09-Jun-20 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
And replacing it with centralized proletarian government


[09-Jun-20 11:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How is that even possible?


[09-Jun-20 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
Fox News seems to think it is. And so it shall


[09-Jun-20 11:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just don't replace it with a cult of reason or cult of atheism because then you just replicate the same old shit. Marx wrote about this.


[10-Jun-20 12:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Then how would you motivate population to contribute to a goal?


[10-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If there is no common goal, it would be FFA anarchy.


[10-Jun-20 12:02 AM] jlun2#8758
"fun"


[10-Jun-20 12:03 AM] jlun2#8758
I dont make game goals because I believe in god for instance @Эᴚ|∫


[10-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But everyone has their belief and goals


[10-Jun-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
you do? I was under the impression you were an atheist


[10-Jun-20 12:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Including this or any other form of spiritualism.


[10-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The main question, how do you reach harmony without clashing with everyone's interests?


[10-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A country could reach some sort of equilibrium, but it takes suppression of clashing interests. Naturally or artificially.


[10-Jun-20 12:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
All movements require a poetry behind them, as Zizek said in a lecture once. But that does not require God or any sort of divine metaphysics. The French Revolutionwas carried on by a poetic narrative of the rights of man for instance, not of the Supreme Being; that came later and was summarily abolished shortly after


[10-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 Fiat justitiam ruat caelum.


[10-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Enact justice, even if the heavens must fall.


[10-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, the moral thing to do is to kill God.


[10-Jun-20 12:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
To remove God from the state is also not a strict position on atheism, but a secularization. You can operate as well without God as with. But by removing the recognition of God and even religious identity you abolish the contradictions between the State and other religious groups, which also involved Atheism.


[10-Jun-20 12:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Since further, the act of being Atheist is to always be Atheist to the dominate religion. A Buddhist Atheist is fundamentally different from a Hindu Atheist and a Christian Atheist because of their upbringing and the cultural baggage carried with the Atheist from the setting they were raised in, even as a rejection of it.


[10-Jun-20 12:18 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm more worried people would create some new "god" because human minds love doing that


[10-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I'd rather worry about militarizing "god", which we had.


[10-Jun-20 12:20 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
On personal level it is fine, on more public level is not great.


[10-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/yungvidya/status/1269134685592080385

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"ATTACK AND DETHRONE GOD" is trending on twitter. we have officially entered the Final Fantasy phase of 2020
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[10-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why boss music is playing?


[10-Jun-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/AndrewProjDent/status/1270023344491020291

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They had a black man scrub “Churchill was a racist” off the statue then had 4 white Tory’s stand in front of it to make it look like they’d done it 🤦‍♂️
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[10-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churchill was responsible for the famine in India during the 40s.


[10-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted it to kill Ghandi.


[10-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was very annoyed when it didn't.


[10-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who commit genocide to try to stop natives from winning bakk their own fukking country thru peaceful means don't deserve statues.


[10-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Try arguing that in the UK.


[10-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
You'll probbaly get "Well he stood up against the Nazi's so..."


[10-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He stood up against them because the UK wanted to control France instead.


[10-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many people in the UK's elite were very pro-Nazi until suddenly France was being invaded.

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[10-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I did hear one of the Scottish Nobles was a good friend of the Vice Channecler or Deputy Fuher who went to Scotland but got captured when his plane crashed. Not good with German names but you know the one I'm talking about.


[10-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody lifted a finger when Poland got invaded


[10-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nor gave a shit when nazis and soviets used spain to test their toys on the populace


[10-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1930s france can go mcfuck itself for that


[10-Jun-20 12:35 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And no one gave any alarm to Ford giving support to the Nazi Party ether


[10-Jun-20 12:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It wasn't until Hitler took France did the world actually move against him.


[10-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Didn't the League of Nations also do nothing when Italy invaded Ethiopia? Even when its prime minister begged for help?


[10-Jun-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been a while since I read up on it, but the League of Nations primarily existed to dunk on Germany


[10-Jun-20 12:40 AM] byte[]#2610
which is part of the reason germany was so fucked...


[10-Jun-20 12:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And Japan, Japan left the United Nations after being mistreated by its other members some due to racism.


[10-Jun-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not only that tho, that racism justified imperialist actions by the Japanese


[10-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yes


[10-Jun-20 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as invading China for not much reason


[10-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
People tend to downplay how bad Japan was during WW2


[10-Jun-20 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Principally Japan itself :xd:


[10-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Sally Moon#4922
My History teacher told me, that Japan never apologized for the atrocities they did during WW2. And to this day he said that his professor never buys a Japanese car.


[10-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So it does annoy me when I encounter weeboos who defend Japan, holding them up as this bastion of greatness and downplaying the atrocties committed by the Japanese Imperial Empire.


[10-Jun-20 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Japan be like, "Yes hello Russia I would like to take your lease for territories in China now. OK done."


[10-Jun-20 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
And then Manchuria was leased over in its entirety to a Japense railroad company.


[10-Jun-20 12:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
And that's how Dalian was built.


[10-Jun-20 12:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
I still need to finish that book.


[10-Jun-20 12:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Russia should never have taken the Kushii of Japan though. That was a power grab


[10-Jun-20 12:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well why not. The managed to get the Chinese to cede an impressive chunk of Manchuria to them by firing cannon shot over the treaty negotiations. But in the end this is all a part of the same trajectory of wars of imperial expansion in order to obtain directly, or more access to the growing international markets and Russia long wanted more Pacific coast territory so it could act as a power in the Pacific, and maybe do a little colonial adventurism that wasn't Alaska. And at the time, Japan and China were also the most sought after Asian markets for European merchants and capital, and Russia sorely needed that capital if it were to stop being a feudal economy.

It just so happened Tzar Nicolas II was a fucking idiot.


[10-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Midknight#9798
the human predilection for blaming folks that were born decades or in some instances around the world centuries after atrocities happened isn't really helping anything though


[10-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Midknight#9798
bad shit happened. let's do better today


[10-Jun-20 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because they happened generations ago doesn't mean that they don't have a continued effect and don't have reverberations through history. The act of black slavery has long kept black Americans low on the totem poll even as they did some of the most important labor to produce America's pre and post industrial wealth. The Civil Rights movement in America in the sixties was right to identify the legacy of enslavement as the inequality in labor and its opportunities as something that negatively effect the African-American population.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Midknight#9798
So do better today.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Japan didn't get to keep its conquest and Japan did not take any Russian territory during WW2 as far as I know outside of a few border skirmishes in Manchuria there wasn't any real fighting between the USSR and Japanese forces.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we shouldn't build statues celebrating the people that did bad shit ages ago.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it's not that we should just forget it, because the legacy of that, to whichever end, and however one side or the other choses to remember or dis-remember that time keeps things stagnant in the current arrangement.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we shouldn't teach that they were good people.


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe to do better today we need to DESTROY SOME MOTHERFUKKING STATUES AND CHANGE THE HISTORY BOOKS TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE GENOCIDES


[10-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Midknight#9798
where the fuck did that come from?


[10-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't going to do any better today if we blind ourselves to the fukking past and pretend that everyone before today was a saint.


[10-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Midknight#9798
you'd better not be trying to imply I said anything about either of those things


[10-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't going to do any better today if we continually put them on pedestals and try to act like them, and ignore our real problems.


[10-Jun-20 12:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Japan didn't get to keep its conquest and Japan did not take any Russian territory during WW2 as far as I know outside of a few border skirmishes in Manchuria there wasn't any real fighting between the USSR and Japanese forces.
@Sally Moon 

No there was towards the end. The Soviets did a massive invasion of Manchuria when the Japanese army was mostly skeletal by this point, thanks in part to the US total blockade of the islands. And the Soviets had just finished the War in Europe. The re-mobilization was one of the largest movements of men and machine from one continent to another and is often credited more to terrifying the Japanese into surrender than the nuclear bombs.


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Midknight#9798
I'm just saying, stop hating folks who're just trying to live their lives today for things their ancestors did. If they're DOING things today... that's the thing to deal with.


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is blaming some random fukk today for Churchill's actions.


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They **are** doing things today


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
because they put those old fukks on pedestals


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and think that they don't need to fix anything.


[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
> So do better today.
@Midknight 

Give me a strong radical union so we can do this again and I we will be doing much better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_General_Strike

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[10-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our education system only recently even TALKED about things like the Indian Removal Act.


[10-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South put in place statues of civil war heros because it wanted to put blakks in their place in the 20s and 30s.


[10-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@AaronMk The Japanese hated the Russians more than the Americans because they understood that if Russia got them to surrender it would mostlikely result in them losing their Emperor and the Americans would have offered the them a better deal.


[10-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Confederate statues belong in museum vaults **or in pieces buried at the bottom of riverbeds**.


[10-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nowhere else.


[10-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
To do better today we must rip and tear out every fukking piece of the scum that still plagues our society.


[10-Jun-20 01:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk The Japanese hated the Russians more than the Americans because they understood that if Russia got them to surrender it would mostlikely resort in them losing their Emperor and the Americans would have offered the them a better deal.
@Sally Moon 

P much.

Plus all those people who got an elevated position during the rightest coup of the twenties that deposed the basically Keynesian civilian government would get far more clemency under the US than the Soviets, provided of course that they had a good excuse to do so that wasn't cowardly bombs.


[10-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We must not build pipelines thru reservations while denying them their fair due. We must giv workers ownership of their employers. We must make sure that racists do not hav any place in places of business.


[10-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We will not get there if we are worshipping the racists of the past.


[10-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, people don't talk about the Tokyo fire bombing


[10-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Midknight#9798
We will also never get there if we're focused on hating people of the past, because we'll become the oppressors and just start the cycle over


[10-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Absolute bullshit


[10-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Midknight#9798
Let them fade into the dustbin of history as a derogatory footnote, absolutely


[10-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not being racist to be anti-racist.


[10-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Burning Confederate flags doesn't make you a fukking bigot.


[10-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Midknight#9798
I'm sorry, but when I walk down the street and someone spits on me because of my race, it's racist.


[10-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a strawman.


[10-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Midknight#9798
So is you going off on this tangent against my earlier statement


[10-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're conflating some random person who's racist against you with anyone who wants to actually fukking change shit.


[10-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[10-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Nebble you have to be careful. Conservatives, Republicans and Racist dipsticks are the biggest snowflakes


[10-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
May they all melt.


[10-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
They will overact to it and Republicans will capitalize on it.


[10-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's exactly what I'm hoping for.


[10-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans win when most people stay home.


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its that wave of change that lead to the Republican Tea party taking the house and the Senate in 2011


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way to get people to actually consider fixing shit is to get everyone pissed off.


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tea party didn't take the Senate, actually.


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their primary challenges screwed over a lot of career Republicans.


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Yeah, people don't talk about the Tokyo fire bombing
@Sally Moon 

I do like how the projected death tally for the invasion of the home islands though rose every time someone from the Truman administration talked about it as compared to the nuclear bombings. Every time some opened their mouth they added another ten thousand. At the time of the planning the projected death toll I think would be considered, "relatively normal" or something. Probably worse for the Japanese since they had zero industry left and were literally building airplanes out of pine twigs.


[10-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate is controlled by classic Republicans like Mitch, with his "I decide what's voted on" policy in regards to things like voting reform.


[10-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing everyone forgets with Japan is that they would've accepted a fairly normal peace deal without any bombing.


[10-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing they hated about the American offer was that they wouldn't be allowed to keep their emperor.


[10-Jun-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Japanese were training their populace on how to fight with sticks tho, i'm not sure they had anything left to resist the Americans with


[10-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then in the peace deal we actually made, they were allowed to keep him!


[10-Jun-20 01:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Other than, like, decent defensive geography


[10-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They literally were amenable to our terms but we lied about our terms, so we bombed them to accept different terms that we didn't make.


[10-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is belligerent.


[10-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(so was Japan at the time, there were no real heros in WWII)


[10-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty much an accident that the side that lost WWII was the much more racist side and it caused a massive counterreaction.


[10-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not even Canada? :ts_cry:


[10-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada was more closely tied to the UK at the time and the UK was probably among the nicer nations, but it was also the one genociding Indians for no reason.


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@Nebbie It wasn't just the Emperor that the Japanese didn't want to agree to it was also the thought of losing. The Japanese military was so hell-bent on winning or at least sueing for peace and being able to negotiate their way to keeping all if not some of their conquests. Which was a hard no


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine LARP'ing as Samurai


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
This post by Japanese military government gang


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military isn't the part that made the decisions tho.


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes they did


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Emperor was constitutionally and traditionally obligated to not get involved.


[10-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
At least not directly.


[10-Jun-20 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
He could move silk strings, but when it came time for a meeting of the ministers he didn't say anything


[10-Jun-20 01:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The military even tried to put the emperor on house arrest and force him to not sign a peace deal and continue the war


[10-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
They weren't it took the Emperor to speak up and bring the Military to the table.


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
More like the Emperor to move behind everyone.


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the thought of the god emperor, descendant of amaterasu, saying the glorious war you've waged for years on end is bad and not commendable, has a significant ideological impact on basically everyone


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
"Cops" just got cancelled


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Death to reality TV


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
My point is, I don't think the military wanted the surrender that happened, it's not a big difference from surrendering with more amenable terms before the bombing.


[10-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would've still tried to stop it but failed.


[10-Jun-20 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
They didn't want to surrender because they wanted to have the land invasion to surrender to.


[10-Jun-20 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
Get their D-Day and moment of final glory, call it a day, and go home and die.


[10-Jun-20 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's just that fire-bombing and nuclear fire wasn't honorable to them, and it would look just as bad on them to surrender to that.


[10-Jun-20 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Though it's been proposed had they shown the Japanese the nuclear bombs being tested before deploying them on Japanese soil they may have made them surrender as well


[10-Jun-20 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
Because they could be told or shown, "Yes, we can build these two a week. How long you want to go?"


[10-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I really hated how the Japanese strong-armed the Okinawans and then used them as Bulwark against American Troops and then lied about Okinawa being captured, to the Japanese public.


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[10-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDYJO-1IhN8

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Don't Shoot, He's Not Black
From DBS episode 56 dub.
It was intentional. The voice actor for Trunks needed multiple attempts
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[10-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I also don't like how some Europeans don't think Americans did enough in World War 2.


[10-Jun-20 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't like how America was the first to burn down the labor detente like immediately after it was called to fight WW2.


[10-Jun-20 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
We could have had the Big Strike in 1946.


[10-Jun-20 01:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
And be p chill today


[10-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
We also could have had national health care in 1947 but racism got ride of that.


[10-Jun-20 01:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well American social welfare is uniquely fucked like that because again I'll attribute it to no major pan-racial labor movement as had been building for the better part of the first forty-some years of the 20th century.


[10-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Sally Moon#4922
How dare "poor" people get treatment. Poor being a cover for minorities


[10-Jun-20 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> We could have had the Big Strike in 1946.
@AaronMk  that was when congress passed the Taft-Harley act right


[10-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Do you not remember the Tulsa massacre?


[10-Jun-20 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Taft-Hartley was 1946, but I was also just spitballing a random date because I am also not aware of any particular movement towards a particular event at any particular year. I think the IWW's goal was just, "whenever we can get the major strike we dream of"


[10-Jun-20 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Do you not remember the Tulsa massacre?
@Sally Moon 
I don't think Tulsa even remembers, or tries to.


[10-Jun-20 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was a strike movement rigt after WW2


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cops-canceled-at-paramount-network-1297778

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'Cops' Canceled at Paramount Network
The move follows the ViacomCBS cable network's decision to pull episodes of the show in the wake of protests against police brutality.
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[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
>When you demolish the whole neighborhood to meme a stadium into existence and expand a university.


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lots of people, five million participating


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently the state got scared


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And passed an anti-union act


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking Truman


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, but at that point the State had effectively replaced the leadership of most of the unions.


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't know Cops was still running


[10-Jun-20 01:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Like the UAW used to be lit, then it got a bunch of corporate types in it.


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
And Hoffa took control of the Teamsters around that time.


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really thought it was a limited run thing because of all the "wtf even" shit and the news stories about censored "scenes"


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
And it was just all sorts of nastiness and betrayal


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Truman wanted to pass a universal healthcare bill but politicains drummed up the Red scare


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hoffa?


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Fucking Truman
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 
Actually Truman resisted Taft-Hartley but it had such major support in Congress they vetoed the veto


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The mafia ties guy?


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yes


[10-Jun-20 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[10-Jun-20 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, how did the mafia even get involved with the unions is beyond my comprehension


[10-Jun-20 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I tried watching that bew Robert DeNiro film but i still don't understand why Hoffa had ties to them


[10-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where there's money, crime will follow.


[10-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Mafia also got involed in civil rights oddly enough


[10-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any good mafia boss would know to be on top of things and to affect the shape of whatever happens.


[10-Jun-20 01:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
> I tried watching that bew Robert DeNiro film but i still don't understand why Hoffa had ties to them
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

It had to do with some pension fund stuff I think. The Teamsters needed money and help and the Mob was willing to offer. But the Mob also makes demands. So they managed to save the Teamsters union from oblivion, but greatly damaged the leadership.


[10-Jun-20 01:30 AM] jimm#1439
some people from NY tell me the mafia did the best job running things


[10-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Speaking of unions Trump hates them with a passion but loves the Police Union and the NRA oddly enough


[10-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I think he is getting paid under the table


[10-Jun-20 01:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump is a developer who imports Poles to build things so he can under-cut wages. Of course he'd be anti-Union


[10-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Maybe not in money but in trips to his properties. Those unions have money


[10-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police unions aren't really like normal unions.


[10-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main thing they do is take away power from the gov't over correcting police behavior.


[10-Jun-20 01:33 AM] jimm#1439
some unions are such a nuisance to everyone around them that it's easy to be soured on them


[10-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police are hardly ever underpaid or facing other similar problems normal workers face.


[10-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Police aren't underpaid?


[10-Jun-20 01:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to support your One Big One for

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[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their budgets are too small, but they aren't underpaid, and that's a severe problem.


[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] jimm#1439
like this one union in a convention center that wouldn't let any vendors bring their stuff in with their own dollies or anything, they had to pay the union their protection money to do it


[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
chad


[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially what money there is goes to wages, then military equipment at huge discounts.


[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
based assault on petit-bougie internet personalities.


[10-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police then do civil forfeiture to pay for shit.


[10-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This makes the police's best interests to be to go around arresting innocent people.


[10-Jun-20 01:35 AM] jimm#1439
unions like that that are just extortionist bullies are infuriating


[10-Jun-20 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder to support only the most chad union, the Industrial Union https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HA3S_O_yxs

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Cities: Skylines | Franklin, Episode 9: Organized Labor
This episode is about organized labor. Sorry it took so long, but that was because the episode is pretty long.


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[10-Jun-20 01:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
Go listen to this at least.


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note about police unions vs. non-police is the nature of what changes they ask for


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
We should demilitarize the police, it isn't the 80s anymore the police do not need military grade weaponry.


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
A normal union never says "make it so our workers can't be sued by customers and the public in general".


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the first thing a police union says.


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I have a question.


[10-Jun-20 01:36 AM] jimm#1439
that sounds like something a normal union would feasibly work towards


[10-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if a normal union tried to get immunity like that, it would be in the form of the company as a whole being liable, not individual workers.


[10-Jun-20 01:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
As a retail worker I should reserve the right to bitch-slap a fucking customer for wasting my time.


[10-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, police unions tend to get it so that the public is just SoL.


[10-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, no normal union goes "make sure our guys don't get fired for doing illegal things"


[10-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's what police unions ask for (in less direct words).


[10-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any normal union that would try to get these things would be laffed out of the room.


[10-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police unions however often get what they want.


[10-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A society that protects workers in the gov't when they literally kill people, but not workers on the factory floor when they ask for protection from dangerous working conditions, is not good.


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every union should have the power of a police union, or none should


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
None should.


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people say no public sector unions should exist, period


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Why did Ronald Reagan make so many dumb things like the War on Drugs and defunding mental asylums?


[10-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Exactly


[10-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if a walmart employee shot you to death because you were slightly too dark and Walmart put the guy on paid leave and then decided to keep him on while all lawsuits by your family failed.


[10-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ronald Reagan was the success of the Southern strategy.


[10-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And Phyllis Schlafly


[10-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've not looked too much into how the GOP evolved


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But basically prior to her and the Southern Strategy, it was more libertarian than the present day GOP from what I understand


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Southern strategy was to pivot the GOP towards catering to racists in the South by selectively enforcing things to slow down or reverse progress on racial equality.


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Sally Moon#4922
because of Goldwater right?


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP was very anti-socialist even in the 30s


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a reason why Walt Disney being president in the 1950s is a common alt hist


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
but they weren't explicitly racist.


[10-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It could have happened


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism was everpresent, and the GOP was based in the North, where it was less overt.


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the modern GOP existed in the 50s


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eisenhower would have been primaried in 1956


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP wanted gentlemanly racism where Northern businesses just agreed to not hire blakks.


[10-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would have been really stupid because McCarthy would have died two months into office but hey.


[10-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats meanwhile lost their overt racism over time and were pretty much by the middle of the 20th century just a party for farmers.


[10-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Sally Moon#4922
McCathy died form alcoholism though?


[10-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ signed civil rights bills partly as a form of reverse Southern strategy. JFK had been stalling.


[10-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I thought it was because JFK died that LBJ used the moment to pass the bill


[10-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, but the goal was to primary Eisenhower


[10-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
in 56


[10-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the idea was, it was mildly bipartisan and it would be political poison for people to oppose it publicly.


[10-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
LBJ was very opportunist, yes.


[10-Jun-20 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Why did Ronald Reagan make so many dumb things like the War on Drugs and defunding mental asylums?
@Sally Moon 

He was the inevitable result of the collapse/decay of the New Deal Coalition. For the generations born in time to directly be impacted by the Great Depression and the World War there was a direct experienced knowledge that you needed a certain level of social solidarity and welfare to make sure you don't starve in southern California again. The decay of Social Democracy in the UK aligned in much the same way. The mutually experienced trauma of successive crisises that affected people all over the social strata informed the decision to move to and thus maintain a social welfare net.

But this only lasts as long as that generation lasts. And by the seventies with Jimmy Carter it was going terminal and by Reagan it was dying. The expansion of Capital was hampered by the welfare system in either country (the US and UK) and so it must die in order to free Capital to grow. The "stagflation" of the seventies wasn't at all bad to the common worker who still enjoyed very comfortable conditions, but this was at cost to capital who could not expand their value.


[10-Jun-20 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
So, what do you do if you are too walled in? Break down walls, expand the market, unleash growth onto a new plain.


[10-Jun-20 01:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Overcome that? Find a way to expand again by creating new markets and fields to expand into.


[10-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By dream Althist is "Carterpunk"


[10-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where Carter wins in 1980 and the 70s really never end


[10-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIozuRmTQs

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[10-Jun-20 01:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And keep going until critical mass is reached and a bubble economy is achieved and then it all fucking dies.


[10-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People only drive cars like this


[10-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, Nixon and Reagan were much the same, Reagan just wanted to be more polite about it.


[10-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The modern GOP is born out of puppydog smiles as blakk America's death warrant is signed.


[10-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard there were tapes about Regan when he let his public face drop with Nixon he showed how racist he really was


[10-Jun-20 01:50 AM] AaronMk#4499
> I heard there were tapes about Regan when he let his public face drop with Nixon he showed how racist he really was
@Sally Moon 

No surprise.

And since we're on Reagan I advise everyone here to read Dark Alliance and Politics of Heroin.


[10-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
What happened can you give a summary?


[10-Jun-20 01:57 AM] AaronMk#4499
Dark Alliance is the culmination of the work of Gary Webb in investigating the Crack-Cocaine pipeline into America in the 80's, uncovering the complicity or direct involvement of the CIA in helping the Nicaraguan Contras in importing cocaine en'masse to the US, so much so that crack could finally take off in the states and sweep the nation and lead to the punitive crime bills of the 80's. For his work, Gary Webb was pressured into suicide when multiple groups - perhaps the CIA - harassed him and forced his paper to fire him and ruined his career. 

Politics of Heroin is the work of Alfred McCoy discussing the history of opium and heroin from the colonial period of south-east Asia and on through World War 2 and the Cold War. It also involves the direct or indirect complicity of the US and its intelligence and army agencies in the trade from cooperating with the Corsican Milieau of Southern France to kick of the Marseille communists from the docks in the late 1940's and thus secure all of post-war France, while also providing the infrastructure and political legitimacy that it could work with the recently re-seeded Sicilian Mafia to restart the heroin trade to the US that had almost died during WW2 and could have disappeared outright. And the book goes on through the Indochina War(s) and into how the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence cooperated with Afghan Mujahaddin during the Soviet Invasion resulting in the country being 99% dependent on heroin and opium in its economy by way of the activity of and birth or the Taliban from this relationship.


[10-Jun-20 01:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
Also how Heroin made it so French intelligence could be so independent for a brief period it could make an attempt of a military coup or terrorist reign of terror in Paris in protest over ending the war in Algeria because of the funds it was bringing in from the Laotian-Vietnamese heroin pipeline.


[10-Jun-20 02:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
For fun, this is from one of the books. I think

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[10-Jun-20 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Ah yes, it is from the Heroin book. Basic framework of the Laotian Hmong opium poppy industry.


[10-Jun-20 02:01 AM] AaronMk#4499
Or how the agriculture worked and the markups as it progressed through the supply chain.


[10-Jun-20 02:03 AM] AaronMk#4499
I hate having to look at old page captured on my phone because thumbnails too small but this should be another

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[10-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Just finished the first picture, that was a long read


[10-Jun-20 02:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a thicc book


[10-Jun-20 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[10-Jun-20 02:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
Thumb marks where the sources begin


[10-Jun-20 02:12 AM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501941-george-p-bush-says-hell-vote-for-trump-in-2020-election

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George P. Bush says he'll vote for Trump in 2020 election
Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush, the son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the nephew of former President George W. Bush, on Tuesday made clear that he will vote for President Trump in the 2020 election.
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[10-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has the perfect "I'll eat all the shit right off Trump's asshole" grin.


[10-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Read it, my eyes >.>


[10-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He'll vote Trump because if not Trump then Who?


[10-Jun-20 02:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Can we just delete the Bush dynasty I swear to god


[10-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And give Republicans a pass? As if.


[10-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Jun-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
go faster


[10-Jun-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Jun-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
> Is he saying he is pissed because cops are being stereotyped and treated badly just because of the color of their...uniform?


[10-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Synfag#9241
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[10-Jun-20 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Synfag honestly this meme needs some more sauce added into it


[10-Jun-20 02:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too much responsibility put on one single event, when it's actually a reflection of much bigger problems hiding under the carpet that is the society of the United States


[10-Jun-20 02:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am going to steal the US Constitution and replace it with the Soviet Constitution (1936) for the epic memes


[10-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Synfag#9241
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poofy (@itsfloofypoofy)
https://twitter.com/itsfloofypoofy/status/1270199692757028865?s=20
Wait... WTF? Are people actually harassing the OFFICIAL @pawpatrol account over a fictional character?! This is not even funny, it's a preschoolers show? There are actual people running that account and they should not have to deal with this? BLM but harassing a Pre-K twitter...
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[10-Jun-20 02:45 AM] AaronMk#4499
I love the smell of Spectacle in the evening.

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[10-Jun-20 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
But all I can find of this described event is this https://twitter.com/pawpatrol/status/1267808607694917633

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PAW Patrol (@pawpatrol)
https://twitter.com/pawpatrol/status/1267808607694917633
In solidarity of #amplifymelanatedvoices we will be muting our content until June 7th to give access for Black voices to be heard so we can continue to listen and further our learning. #amplifyblackvoices
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[10-Jun-20 02:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I get the impression 90% of these replies may be meme'ing.


[10-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chase's new catchphrase is "TASER TASER TASER!"


[10-Jun-20 03:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Since they are all dogs the police dog shoots all of them.


[10-Jun-20 03:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump said America is the king of ventilators, why not equip police with ventilators to avoid anyone can't breathe


[10-Jun-20 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/instsocecology/status/1270375033433493506?s=21

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Inst. Social Ecology 🌺 (@InstSocEcology)
https://twitter.com/instsocecology/status/1270375033433493506?s=21
Please stop emailing us asking what Murray Bookchin thought about Bionicles.
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[10-Jun-20 04:15 AM] jlun2#8758
googling "king of ventilators" gave https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-ventilators-glut-analysis-coronavirus-response/

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Trump's goal for U.S. to become "king of ventilators" may leave une...
As doctors learned more about the effects of the coronavirus on the human body, ventilators increasingly were used only as a last resort.
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[10-Jun-20 04:16 AM] jlun2#8758
> But over the past month, demand for ventilators has decreased even as the U.S. death toll from the novel coronavirus has surged past 80,000. After observing unusually high death rates for coronavirus victims who were put on ventilators, many doctors are using them only as a last resort.
> 
> That's raising the unexpected prospect that the U.S. could soon be awash in surplus ventilators, so much so the White House is now planning to ship thousands overseas to help boost the virus response of other nations.
so...ty?


[10-Jun-20 04:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/ivanka-trumps-anger-reveals-how-her-dissociated-princess-schtick-is-no-longer-viable-family-biographer

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Ivanka Trump’s anger reveals how her ‘dissociated princess’ schtick...
On Tuesday, writing for Vanity Fair, Trump family biographer Emily Jane Fox revealed how first daughter Ivanka Trump’s political strategy of playing the ‘dissociated princess’ has played to her advantage — and how recent events suggest her strategy is reaching its limits. “Iva...
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[10-Jun-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1270492130885206016

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shoe (@shoe0nhead)
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this was sent to a member of rage against the machine
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[10-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[10-Jun-20 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Rage with the machine.


[10-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2020/06/08/officers-slashed-tires-on-vehicles-parked-amid-minneapolis-protests-unrest.html

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Officers slashed tires on vehicles parked amid Minneapolis protests...
“State Patrol troopers strategically deflated tires ... in order to stop behaviours such as vehicles driving dangerously and at high speeds in and aro...
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[10-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
pre-crime


[10-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
it's hilarious how maga hats will both denigrate pre-crime but then suddenly be all for it when the police are doing it


[10-Jun-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ShutDownSTEM

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News about #ShutDownSTEM on Twitter
3h ago @IBJIYONGI tweeted: "A Q&amp;A with Particles for Justice cre.." - read what others are saying and join the conversation.
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[10-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling the K-Pop community, we need an invasion.


[10-Jun-20 05:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1270436732442460161

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So you’re going to #ShutDownSTEM for a day ... and then what? 

Racial (and gender) disparities in STEM education and employment start in childhood, and accumulate over the life course. Undoing centuries of discrimination & oppression takes more than 24 hours of hashtag activ...
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[10-Jun-20 05:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only correct tweet in this imo


[10-Jun-20 05:22 AM] jlun2#8758
#HashtagActivism #OnlyWayToChangeThings


[10-Jun-20 05:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
why is Twitter so bad at naming things


[10-Jun-20 05:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
And I whisper to the liberal, "or is it?"
https://youtu.be/n4DX8_X_fck

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What We Want
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What We Want · John McCutcheon

Joe Hill's Last Will

℗ 2015 Appalseed Productions

Released on: 2015-05-01

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[10-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/informed_news/status/1270438610693525504

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https://twitter.com/informed_news/status/1270438610693525504
Are ANTIFA leaders being scooped by FEDs now? https://t.co/g7xztBZS0N
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[10-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
apparently conservatives are celebrating random people getting kidnapped in unmarked vehicles


[10-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
saying that it's "antifa operatives" getting vanned by the government


[10-Jun-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cambridgeshire-police-racism-video-black-lives-matter-a9556526.html

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UK police to examine video of white officer stopping black driver b...
'How do you stop someone because they’re black then tell me they’re not racist?' asks driver
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[10-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Crow That picture must be ancient


[10-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does K-Mart even exist anymore?


[10-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is a setting for a bad indie horror game

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[10-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's not ancient


[10-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's from last week


[10-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apparently it's going to get demolished


[10-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2020/03/minneapolis-decision-to-buy-and-demolish-minnesotas-last-kmart-explained/

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Minneapolis’ decision to buy and demolish Minnesota’s last Kmart, e...
From Kmart shoppers’ reactions to the city’s redevelopment plans, here’s what you should know about the agreement — and why it’s happening now.
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[10-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Crow#5457
beat me to it


[10-Jun-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
beat meat to it

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[10-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Crow#5457
beat me off to it


[10-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kmart was always weird, it was below Wal-Mart but not as bad as a Big Lots


[10-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It failed to adapt while Walmart did.


[10-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So Walmart consumed.


[10-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm surprised Target is still a thing


[10-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every one I visited ages ago seemed to be half empty


[10-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And every photo of one since appeared the same, like they went into renovations and just... left


[10-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why do you need Kmart when you have Wal-Mart _and_ Target


[10-Jun-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The market is big enough for two, not three of the same kind of store


[10-Jun-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kmart tried to position itself as a lower-cost version of both but that's a recipe for disaster


[10-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Target definitely adapted. It pulled the opposite, "We're a slightly better Wal-Mart"


[10-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and it worked


[10-Jun-20 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget about Rose's


[10-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Targets got rid of their "cafes" and replaced them with Starbucks


[10-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They kept the popcorn and Icee machines, that's all anyone wanted anyway


[10-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rose's is regional, never heard of it


[10-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Teaspoon Target is real big with hipsters and white women


[10-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Midknight#9798
Nono, those folks pronounce it "Tar-jay"


[10-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Midknight#9798
They hate tar-get


[10-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And in Minneapolis definitely, but that's headquarters


[10-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They seem to have their shit together so I'm okay with them


[10-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I never regret going in a target


[10-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I've always left kmart underwhelmed and a bit depressed


[10-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Midknight#9798
Last time I was in the target near me, the grocery area smelled like rotting food


[10-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And I usually leave walmart pretty pissed


[10-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Midknight#9798
Like, *heavily* rotting.


[10-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm assuming something fell under something and nobody can find it


[10-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It happens way more than you think


[10-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/us/supermarket-missing-person-death-trnd/index.html?no-st=1563851418

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Grocery store employee missing for 10 years found behind store's co...
Workers removing shelves and coolers from a former No Frills Supermarket in Council Bluffs, Iowa, in January discovered a body behind one of them. It was a man who had gone missing in 2009.
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[10-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I know when I worked the grocery store, this one day I noticed the diaper aisle smelled horrid. It bothered me for like 3 weeks before I found it buried on the top shelf behind a bunch of diapers


[10-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
An alfredo TV dinner that someone had shoved in the middle of a bunch of product


[10-Jun-20 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/george-floyd-protests-san-jose-police-fire-rubber-bullets-own-bias-trainer-rupture-his-testicle/K5HUBNAHTJERPBKA2CVC2B5LRU/

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George Floyd protests: San Jose police fire rubber bullets at own b...
Derrick Sanderlin, a 27-year-old community activist who trains new San Jose police officers on how to avoid implicit bias toward minorities, was shot in the groin as he tried to calm a tense scene outside San Jose City Hall. Doctors told Sanderlin and his wife the damage to hi...
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[10-Jun-20 07:19 AM] byte[]#2610
> The driver had a “Blue Lives Matter” license plate frame, which he later said was not in support of police officers but was an effort to avoid speeding tickets.

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[10-Jun-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
That is a massive brain move


[10-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXXUC623ow

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The Daily Show with Trevor Noah
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Cops Meet Police Brutality Protests with More Police Brutality | Th...
Cops respond to protests against systemic racism and police brutality with military tactics, macing and more of the same violence that protesters are working to shut down. #DailyShow #TrevorNoah #BlackLivesMatter

Donate to support the NAACP Legal Defense Fund: http://dailysho...
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[10-Jun-20 11:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/barr-contradicts-trump-bunker-story-protests

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William Barr Totally Blows Trump’s Bunker Cover Story
So much for the president’s claim that he was just “inspecting” the White House bunker.
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[10-Jun-20 11:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pressherald.com/2020/06/09/portland-man-suspects-critical-tweets-led-police-officers-to-his-door-with-summons

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Portland man says critical tweets led police officers to his door w...
Christian MilNeil then tweeted about two officers showing up at his house to serve a summons for graffiti. Police, who also tweeted during the incident, deny they were retaliating for critical comments he made about the Portland department.
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[10-Jun-20 11:23 AM] Macarou#9574
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/06/06/what-black-america-means-to-europe/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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What Black America Means to Europe
Although police killings are a constant, gruesome feature of American life, to many Europeans this particular murder stands as confirmation of the injustices of this broader political period. It illustrates a resurgence of white, nativist violence blessed with the power of the...
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[10-Jun-20 01:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, I know the possibility is slimmer than a sheet of paper on a keto diet, but what if neither Barr nor Trump intentionally lied about the bunker visit? That is, what if Barr (and the secret service) knew that they were sending Trump to the bunker because of the protesters, but in order to get the President to cooperate they told him it was for an inspection?


[10-Jun-20 01:15 PM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Jun-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8404307/Professor-suspended-refusing-request-lenient-marking-black-students-assessments.html

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Professor suspended after refusing lenient marking of black students
Gordon Klein, a professor of accounting at the UCLA's Anderson School of Business, rejected a request from a group of non-black students for leniency for their black peers.
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[10-Jun-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling there's more to this than that, but daily mail seems to be the only source of this atm


[10-Jun-20 01:43 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the course he was teaching was graded solely on the final exam, which seems weird to me


[10-Jun-20 01:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
sounds like something related covid and poorer people not able to get access to the course needing a computer and internet.


[10-Jun-20 01:52 PM] Synfag#9241
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431268748549423105/720149148732620808/image0.jpg

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[10-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Jun-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruderhof_Communities

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Bruderhof Communities
The Bruderhof (; place of brothers) is a Christian movement that was founded in Germany in 1920 by Eberhard Arnold. They have communities in the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Austria, Paraguay, and Australia. 
The Bruderhof practises believers’ baptism, non-viole...
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[10-Jun-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Based


[10-Jun-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
And


[10-Jun-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Typically


[10-Jun-20 02:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
German pilled


[10-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/oceanselene/status/1270234398760112129

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I'm laughing so hard please keep this one
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[10-Jun-20 02:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Synfag what is this?


[10-Jun-20 02:51 PM] Synfag#9241
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone


[10-Jun-20 02:51 PM] Synfag#9241
in Seattle


[10-Jun-20 02:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/historyofarmani/status/1270450175350378496

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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. 6 blocks retaken back for the people. “You are now leaving the USA” when you enter. Long live the fucking revolution. ✊🏽
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[10-Jun-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaGjBigUcAAH3Wl.jpg:orig

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[10-Jun-20 03:10 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I don't it will ever work.


[10-Jun-20 03:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/06/09/christopher-columbus-statue-torn-down-thrown-lake-by-protesters/

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Christopher Columbus statue torn down, thrown in lake by protesters
The Christopher Columbus statue has been torn down and thrown in the lake by protesters in downtown Richmond.
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[10-Jun-20 03:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
lit


[10-Jun-20 03:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now put up a monument to the Basque


[10-Jun-20 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/720265380773494856/papa_warned.jpg

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[10-Jun-20 03:20 PM] Crow#5457
> In July 2018, Schnatter participated in a conference call in which there was a role-playing exercise to help train Schnatter to avoid making remarks that could cause public controversy and damage the company reputation. During the conference call, Schnatter said, "Colonel Sanders called blacks niggers and Sanders never faced public outcry". Schnatter also said that people in his home state of Indiana used to drag African Americans from trucks until they died.

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[10-Jun-20 03:20 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[10-Jun-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
> In November 2019, Schnatter made his first public comments after leaving Papa John's to Louisville Fox affiliate WDRB. In the interview, Schnatter admitted he had used the "N word" during an internal conference call on diversity training, but he said he did it to convey his hatred of racism and was quoting someone else. Schnatter said, "I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days, and it's not the same pizza. It's not the same product. It just doesn't taste as good." He warned that "the day of reckoning will come". The interview subsequently went viral. In an interview three months later, Schnatter said he had not actually eaten over 40 pizzas in 30 days. Instead, he tasted a portion of over 40 pizzas during that time, as part of an inspection process.


[10-Jun-20 03:24 PM] byte[]#2610
who


[10-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
john schnatter, founder of papa john's pizza


[10-Jun-20 03:24 PM] byte[]#2610
o


[10-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
same guy whose head is in the image I just linked


[10-Jun-20 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/V13JxOP.jpg

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[10-Jun-20 03:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Scan with what?


[10-Jun-20 03:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[10-Jun-20 03:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It feels like reading a sci-fi plot.


[10-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Crow#5457
with covfefe, obviously


[10-Jun-20 03:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Btw. People are fast at making wikipedia pages about all that stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_on_Martin_Gugino

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[10-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/XLlUhKW

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[10-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And what if he didn't call out her name?


[10-Jun-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
probably burn it down all the same


[10-Jun-20 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/43hK2EP>

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[10-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
> I'm sorry. Protesting takes no effort. It's a party and young people love going to parties.

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[10-Jun-20 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/ngad3ieixx351

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Guy talks to a cop like a cop
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[10-Jun-20 03:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow


[10-Jun-20 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
rofl, that is amazing


[10-Jun-20 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/gzutqv/guy_talks_to_a_cop_like_a_cop/ftijpq0/>


[10-Jun-20 03:57 PM] Crow#5457
> As a person of color I just watched this with extreme dread. It's unfathomable to me to be able to say what you want to the cops.


[10-Jun-20 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
> It's terrible but sometimes I think "someday all the boomers will be dead" and it's strangely comforting. Though I'll miss my parents


[10-Jun-20 04:15 PM] Pretty#9306
That guy is a prick and wrong but that was funny


[10-Jun-20 04:23 PM] Crow#5457
which guy is a prick? that's literally how officers talk to you most of the time


[10-Jun-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
I was out on a nightly walk (it was like 2 am) around 3 years ago, a police officer passed me on the street, then suddenly made a u-turn and basically flew back to where I was and stopped me... while he wasn't quite as heated about it as the dudes in this video since it wasn't a confrontation, it was exactly the same way of speaking


[10-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
and there's countless videos of police questioning people randomly on the street or at a traffic stop to show that police actually do talk this way


[10-Jun-20 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
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Happy birthday mother F**ker
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[10-Jun-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Obama prism


[10-Jun-20 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/JMichaelWaller/status/1269716229306146817

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Interesting how the protesters in London are leaving the Karl Marx statue alone.
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[10-Jun-20 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh gee i wonder why!


[10-Jun-20 04:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But he was never a worker himself


[10-Jun-20 04:33 PM] Crow#5457
it's the global antifa agenda, obviously


[10-Jun-20 04:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Worked a couple of years at most in his life iirc.


[10-Jun-20 04:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Leeched from relatives.


[10-Jun-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
he was subsidized because his research was seen as important, to call him a leech would be to call the likes of albert einstein a leech for being paid to think


[10-Jun-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
also he was a journalist


[10-Jun-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
just because he wasn't working a traditional "job" doesn't mean that he didn't do anything


[10-Jun-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gxzm33/cop_chokes_a_woman_to_stop_her_from_telling_her/

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[10-Jun-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
jesus fuckin christ dude


[10-Jun-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
> It happened two years ago. The cop is still employed by the Bellevue, WA Police Department.


[10-Jun-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
> Also, because this clip is now gaining online circulation due to the anti-brutality movement, the police department released this statement:
> 
> “This particular incident was investigated through the department’s Use of Force review process and the department’s complaint process. It was found to be in compliance with department policy.”
> 
> The chokehold, and putting all his weight with both his knees on her back and neck, was found to be "in compliance with policy". This shows you what we're up against with the policing system, folks.
> 
> And what was she stopped for? What made her so dangerous of a suspect? Suspicion of failing to transfer her automobile title.
> 
> And when she didn't listen to the officer, that's when she became a "threat" worthy of this treatment. He had to take her down by any means necessary, obviously.


[10-Jun-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://downtownbellevue.com/2020/06/05/video-surfaces-bellevue-police-officer-placing-woman-into-chokehold/

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UPDATED: Video Surfaces from 2018 of Bellevue Police Officer Placin...
News UPDATED: Video Surfaces from 2018 of Bellevue Police Officer Placing Woman into Chokehold
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[10-Jun-20 04:57 PM] Crow#5457

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[10-Jun-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG4bRTXVcDw

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How Dave Chappelle Schooled White Woman On 'Police Brutality' - CH ...
https://comedyhype.com/ - In a viral tweet shared by a local New York comedian, users on Twitter would learn about the time Dave Chappelle corrected a white woman after heckling him on police brutality. CH's @Mr.DominicSmith would share excerpts of comedian Kenny DeForrest's r...
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[10-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
apparently dave chappelle got pulled over by the same cop that murdered john crawford III


[10-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Crow#5457
he got off with a warning, the punchline was "I shouldn't have to be Dave Chappelle to survive police encounters."


[10-Jun-20 05:14 PM] Crow#5457
it's really too bad that this is narrated, would've been much better hearing dave say it


[10-Jun-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/george-floyd-protests-san-jose-police-fire-rubber-bullets-own-bias-trainer-rupture-his-testicle/K5HUBNAHTJERPBKA2CVC2B5LRU/

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George Floyd protests: San Jose police fire rubber bullets at own b...
Derrick Sanderlin, a 27-year-old community activist who trains new San Jose police officers on how to avoid implicit bias toward minorities, was shot in the groin as he tried to calm a tense scene outside San Jose City Hall. Doctors told Sanderlin and his wife the damage to hi...
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[10-Jun-20 05:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/cuomo-de-blasio-riot

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Cuomo slams de Blasio's handling of riots, claims he has power to ‘...
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday slammed New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio's handling of riots in his city, calling it a "disgrace" and saying he has the power to "displace" the mayor -- although doesn't want to at this point.
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[10-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
lib on lib violence


[10-Jun-20 06:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why are people still protestong?  Those four policemen still not imprisoned?


[10-Jun-20 06:02 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or just protesting for fun?


[10-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
because just arresting and charging the four officers doesn't fix the system that allows such a thing to happen to begin with


[10-Jun-20 06:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.yahoo.com/thousands-pay-respects-to-george-floyd-in-houston-200508348.html

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Thousands pay respects to George Floyd in Houston
Thousands of mourners wearing protective masks and gloves waited in line for hours outside a megachurch in Houston on Monday in 90-plus-degree heat to pay their last respects to George Floyd.
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[10-Jun-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
if the officers charged get not guilty verdicts


[10-Jun-20 06:11 PM] byte[]#2610
the protestors will make the past week seem like a bit of light fun


[10-Jun-20 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, if that happens, it'll make 1968 look like a playground scuffle


[10-Jun-20 06:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So what's the condition of these policemen now?


[10-Jun-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
it seems fairly likely the prosecutors will at least be able to nail a guilty verdict on derek chauvin for second degree murder


[10-Jun-20 06:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Are they in the prison already?


[10-Jun-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[10-Jun-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
awaiting trial


[10-Jun-20 06:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Sounds good


[10-Jun-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now police are trying to reassert dominance over civillians, and civillians are not having it anymore


[10-Jun-20 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
there's a self-proclaimed cop in another discord server fantasizing about a breakdown of society, implying he can't wait to go around murdering "gangbangers" indiscriminately


[10-Jun-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yeah, "reassert dominance" is a bit of an overstatement to their motives, it;s more like, they're taking this opportunity to militarize the most sadistic force they've always wanted


[10-Jun-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if this were the actual military, most of them would have been charged with war crimes by now


[10-Jun-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while also playing the victim card and crying about how the media was mean to them for not holding back their footage and reports


[10-Jun-20 06:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk how are the gangs like in America. In China they sell guns, drugs and gay videos


[10-Jun-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the police in america are basically a government sanctioned gang


[10-Jun-20 06:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Do they sell gay videos?


[10-Jun-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, they just beat up gay people


[10-Jun-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have a legal porn industry to sell gay videos


[10-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/502038-it-is-time-for-mandatory-national-service

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It is time for mandatory national service
We must come together as a nation to help make our country a better place for all.
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[10-Jun-20 06:25 PM] Crow#5457
wow, even conservatives hate the idea of mandatory service, is trump actively trying torpedo his re-election chances now?


[10-Jun-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not from trump or the white house


[10-Jun-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, just saw that


[10-Jun-20 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
guess there's just an entire subtopic of opinions listed under "White House"


[10-Jun-20 06:27 PM] Crow#5457
for whatever reason


[10-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Honahue#0656
wow this is an incomplete garunteed job program


[10-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I read it, it doesn't actually sound as bad as it sounded at first glance


[10-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
thought it was a solely military thing


[10-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
> National service is not a new or novel concept. Many countries already have such a requirement, where youth are required by law to perform a year or more of service and are offered a choice between community service and the military. Israel requires mandatory military service for all citizens over the age of 18 for two years.


[10-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Honahue#0656
it doesn't actually give a position on what service they would do tho and so it probably would just be military


[10-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
well, it does instantly jump to israel as an example


[10-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
"here you go kid, let's go shoot some protesters!"


[10-Jun-20 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Whoopsie poopsie! We're all out of positions at the soup kitchen! Report to basic training one week from now, soldier!"


[10-Jun-20 06:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-officials-looting-riots

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Distraught Chicago officials heard on tape fuming over looting, rio...
Distraught Chicago officials complained to Mayor Lori Lightfoot -- as looting and rioting in response to George Floyd’s death swept through the Windy City -- pleading for help and warning that the vulnerable had lost access to food and medicine.


[10-Jun-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502053-white-house-says-trump-may-issue-executive-order-on-police-reform

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White House says Trump may issue executive order on police reform
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Wednesday that President Trump could take action on police reform through an executive order.
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[10-Jun-20 06:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s trump,  it;s probably the opposite kind of reform people are asking for


[10-Jun-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502065-minneapolis-police-department-ending-police-union-contract-negotiations

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The Minneapolis Police Department will end its police union negotiations in a move to make “transformational” reforms after the death of George Floyd in city's police custody, the police chief announced Wednesday.
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[10-Jun-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
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Sacha Baron Cohen is listed as the CEO of antifa on Wikipedia
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[10-Jun-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.


[10-Jun-20 07:21 PM] Honahue#0656
perfect


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[10-Jun-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[10-Jun-20 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
how stupid do you have to be?


[10-Jun-20 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
🤦


[10-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ye, spray paint is hard to wash off


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Use something that won’t permanently stain a window


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Like mud


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Or face paint


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
... that's not the point of my comment


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Honahue#0656
you know it's sad that cops seem to forget that all cellphones come with cameras something that Vampire the Masquarade: Bloodlines made a point of almost 20 years ago


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
(Twas a joke)


[10-Jun-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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They lost a good 30 years of potential labor when the officer murdered him; so wasteful
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[10-Jun-20 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
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A Woman Hitting a Neo-Nazi With Her Handbag
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[10-Jun-20 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Jun-20 07:31 PM] Honahue#0656
glorious


[10-Jun-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Jun-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502081-west-virginia-voters-elect-first-out-transgender-person-to-hold-office

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Voters of a West Virginia city on Tuesday elected the state's first out transgender public official, according to the LGBTQ Victory Fund.Rosemary Ketchum won a seat on the Wheeling City Council, according to the organization.
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[10-Jun-20 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao, she looks like michael jackson


[10-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hopefully got elected not just because of that.


[10-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Jun-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
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Hallo, we’re here for the extermination of fascism ja
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[10-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I don't get it. Should I meme about nazis or fascists?


[10-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[10-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There is clearly a difference, but people seem to put Germany into fascists bucket now


[10-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/CJzpEPL

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When you get this angry over someone suggesting that black lives matter, you're kinda giving yourself away
https://i.imgur.com/AscXamTh.jpg


[10-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.facebook.com/reidar.j.johnson/videos/10157504333779157


[10-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
video of the dude


[10-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny watching a boomer act like a little child while surrounded by people not falling for his bait


[10-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/FW9vvAs.jpg

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[10-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[10-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/xU2PPef

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They are not the protesters you are looking for.
https://i.imgur.com/uTDxKZ0h.jpg


[10-Jun-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nash076/status/1270508229970329603

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https://twitter.com/nash076/status/1270508229970329603
Back. The fuck. Up.

So, California has pretty much been on fire every summer for years. Their power infrastructure is shot, and they have to arrange blackouts to stop fires.

Look at Emergency Management.

Look at the LAPD.

Emergency Management. LAPD.

WHAT THE FUCK
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[10-Jun-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/gCIGX47

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What a real human being! Huge statement!
https://i.imgur.com/X0yNoAwh.jpg


[10-Jun-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
found the good cop


[10-Jun-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
NOT ANYMORE


[10-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good people resign to send a message. Bad people stay on to make sure the message isn't received.


[10-Jun-20 08:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
"So Aaron what are your expectations for this summer?"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-hunger-crisis.amp.html

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-hunger-crisis.amp.html
‘Instead of Coronavirus, the Hunger Will Kill Us.’ A Global Food Cr...
The world has never faced a hunger emergency like this, experts say. It could double the number of people facing acute hunger to 265 million by the end of this year.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/21/world/00virus-hunger2/00virus-hunger2-facebookJumbo-v3.jpg


[10-Jun-20 08:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>usa
>hunger


[10-Jun-20 08:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[10-Jun-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact that 2/3 of the US is overweight doesn't mean a significant amount of people aren't starving


[10-Jun-20 08:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
I'll have you know Apple picking country in Washington state almost about killed its workers via COVID. They had the highest infection rate in the country and was so bad the workers had to strike.


[10-Jun-20 08:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
We had a tentative example of what may happen earlier when the country ran out of fresh beef that forced Wendy's to make sweeping menu changes. Now with a second wave underway as states begin to open back up we're not through yet.


[10-Jun-20 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
wendy's didn't really change anything about their menu, at least in my area


[10-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
they just are't selling triple burgers


[10-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
for a few weeks, it was no doubles either


[10-Jun-20 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/BmJpzDX

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And suddenly I wish I was a social media manager.
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[10-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
(it's a parody account)


[10-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unprofessionalism is a giveaway right away


[10-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[10-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
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[10-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://news.yahoo.com/sanders-dismisses-progressive-calls-defund-195628874.html

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Sanders Dismisses Progressive Calls to Defund Police, Says Departme...
Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) broke from progressive counterparts in calls to defund the police, saying instead that the country needs “well-trained, well-educated, and well-paid professionals in police departments.”Sanders addressed progressive critics who viewed him as an...
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[10-Jun-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk googling that gave https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/29/washington-apple-growers-dump-fruit-fields
rip

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Washington apple growers dump $100m worth of fruit in fields
A record crop and this year’s lengthy labor dispute at west coast ports means surplus perishable produce is uneconomical even for juice and applesauce
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/6/16/1402939849896/aab2f964-3dcb-4c15-90d5-568f4a426ec8-620x372.jpeg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctYWdlLTIwMTUucG5n&enable=upscale&s=3ec7def333d7c80bb24aa994c71d541b


[10-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Honahue#0656
this is from 2015 but I expect somethng to help again, the problem with capitalism is overproduction not scarcity


[10-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Problem is that the system is rigged for overconsumption.


[10-Jun-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
> 2/3 of the US is overweight
it's so frustrating despite the norm is being chubby, media depicts thin people as normal instead


[10-Jun-20 09:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, Senator Sanders, if we defund the police and outright prevent them from buying things like tear gas, sonic cannons, and tanks, while also significantly decreasing the amount of proactive policing and *firing* police when they need to be held accountable...there will be less police we need to train on de-escalation and civic law.

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[10-Jun-20 09:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention that the money we're taking from police doesn't evaporate into thin air. You want proactive measures? Try something upstream of a 911 call


[10-Jun-20 09:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, say, community outreach and health & human services


[10-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think he just forgot to go over the usual stuff about demilitarization.


[10-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sanders isn't a friend of the MIC.


[10-Jun-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie "MIC"? sorry thats too confusing for google

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[10-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an acronym, not a word.


[10-Jun-20 09:38 PM] jlun2#8758
outside the fact it's a romanian fictional device


[10-Jun-20 09:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"military industrial complex," if google isn't helping


[10-Jun-20 09:42 PM] jlun2#8758
tyvm


[10-Jun-20 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
> this is from 2015 but I expect somethng to help again, the problem with capitalism is overproduction not scarcity
@Honahue 

Yea, we throw out a lot of food too if it doesn't match idela standards.


[10-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But then why printers are produced as throwaway consumable thing?


[10-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So they break down and you have to buy a new printer


[10-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That uses different ink cartridges


[10-Jun-20 10:11 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
https://youtu.be/AHX6tHdQGiQ

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AustinMcConnell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHX6tHdQGiQ
Ink Cartridges Are A Scam
Printer companies are ripping us off, and it's high time we did something about it. Join me in starting the revolution.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AHX6tHdQGiQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[10-Jun-20 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ https://www.fimfiction.net/story/465474/buy-one-plant-one

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Admiral Biscuit
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/465474/buy-one-plant-one
Buy One, Plant One
Sprout gets tired of buying new ink cartridges for her printer and decides to plant one to see if she can grow her own.
https://cdn-img.fimfiction.net/story/5ndu-1586648686-465474-medium


[10-Jun-20 10:11 PM] jlun2#8758
you eat printers ok


[10-Jun-20 10:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Long time before that video, I noticed it way easier to buy $30 printer than $50 cartridge


[10-Jun-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
pls dont do that; thats e-waste as hell


[10-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who cares?


[10-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If corporates cared, they would not resort to scammy tactics


[10-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And their "1 year lifecycle"


[10-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Buy 10 printers. Sell every printer when its cartridge is about to run out.


[10-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain:


[10-Jun-20 10:14 PM] jlun2#8758

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[10-Jun-20 10:14 PM] jlun2#8758
corporates are evil


[10-Jun-20 10:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's  whose fault.


[10-Jun-20 10:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Corporations are not evil.
They just have no morals.


[10-Jun-20 10:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That is different.


[10-Jun-20 10:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Broken moral compass" or rather lack of one.


[10-Jun-20 10:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Amoral vs. immoral.


[10-Jun-20 10:17 PM] jlun2#8758
isnt that AI


[10-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They are actually  Lawful Evil


[10-Jun-20 10:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They exist to get money. Not evil or good. Just money.


[10-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looking at tricks they exploit,  it is plainly evil, especially rigging and abusing systems.


[10-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It would neutral if they just led fair business. There is no such thing.


[10-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You have skewed perception, but ok.


[10-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen enough shit and I see where it is going.


[10-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Misguiding consumers. Totally not evil.


[10-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exploiting weaknesses. Totally not evil.


[10-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Profiting at someone's expense. Totally not evil.


[10-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
See?


[10-Jun-20 10:24 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ ofc they're not evil. they simply make those acts legal, so now it's fine 😜


[10-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lawful, yes. Moral, no. That's lawful evil.


[10-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You totally have no understanding of amorality.


[10-Jun-20 10:25 PM] jlun2#8758
but they do piss a lot of ppl off, so eventually may fuck themselves over, assuming people will do something, and not "i complained on social media why is nothing changing"


[10-Jun-20 10:25 PM] jlun2#8758
but I doubt it


[10-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And no understanding of collateral damage.


[10-Jun-20 10:26 PM] jlun2#8758
young people won't save us since they're too busy complaining on social media like us :wheeze:


[10-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Problem is that no average Joe has power. Only ones with money do.


[10-Jun-20 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
youth vote :wheeze:


[10-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Voting is rigged


[10-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Okay, Mr. Doomer.


[10-Jun-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm waiting for democracy to die with boomers  btw


[10-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or you can bury head in sand aka ostriching, and ignore all of it.


[10-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just like you, Eris.


[10-Jun-20 10:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ so will you vote tho


[10-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 depends on country.


[10-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Depends on level.


[10-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ward voting way more important than national.


[10-Jun-20 10:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The most popular party is the worst. And requires a huge critical mass. Impossible.


[10-Jun-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
so I assume you wont vote. k


[10-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
On ward and municipality level, it will affect how your district and  metropolitan areas will  perform. This one needs serious attention.


[10-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I remember, few years ago dominant party lost major metro area. Changes are visible, better attendance to road issues, less technical failures and so on.


[10-Jun-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
||I just vote anything but conservative||


[10-Jun-20 10:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Stoopedhooy wait, you said doomer. These are two polar opposites.


[10-Jun-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kudlow-systemic-racism-doesnt-exists-trump-economic-adviser-in-us-2020-6

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A top Trump economic adviser says he doesn't believe systemic racis...
Larry Kudlow's striking remarks come as lawmakers denounce racism in the wake of Black Lives Matter demonstrations across the country.
https://i.insider.com/5ee134793f737009c75088b4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jun-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporting-qanon-conspiracist-georgia-may-win-congressional-race-2020-6

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A Trump-supporting QAnon conspiracist has a strong chance of winnin...
Greene's success shows how conspiracy thinking has migrated from the fringe to mainstream Republican politics.
https://i.insider.com/5ee1072a5af6cc54ac69ec89?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jun-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-renaming-us-military-bases-confederate-civil-war-2020-6

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Trump says he 'will not even consider' renaming US military bases t...
President Donald Trump said that renaming the bases that honor the Confederate leaders would somehow be disrespectful to the US military.
https://i.insider.com/5e1d1e5bf44231353628aba3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[10-Jun-20 11:15 PM] jlun2#8758
I assume she also thinks medicaid for boomers isnt socialism


[10-Jun-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think that's the least of her problems


[10-Jun-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she proudly and loudly stands with the KKK and says she;d use her platform to enforce her conspiracy theorist demands


[10-Jun-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also seems like the kind of nutjob who if elected would attempt to bring her rifle with her into congress


[10-Jun-20 11:33 PM] green_byte#1188
:SweetieHuh:


[10-Jun-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1267797639334166529

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Marjorie Taylor Greene For Congress🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee)
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1267797639334166529
ANTIFA has declared war on our country.

@realDonaldTrump responded by declaring them a domestic terrorist organization.

Here’s my message to ANTIFA terrorists:

Stay the HELL out of NW Georgia.

You won’t burn our churches, loot our businesses, or destroy our homes. https:/...
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[10-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Since Colombus day has been brought up in regards to a statue https://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day

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Christopher Columbus was awful (but this other guy was not)
Happy Bartolomé Day.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/thumbnails/columbus_day_big.png


[10-Jun-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm just curious would she actually shoot protestors


[10-Jun-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if confronted with a crowd, probably not


[10-Jun-20 11:40 PM] jlun2#8758
and is NW Georgia a lost cause


[10-Jun-20 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
Let's just replace memorials of Columbus with memorials to the Basques.


[10-Jun-20 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
And maybe the Bretons I guess too.


[10-Jun-20 11:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
And if we really want, Cornwall, I think


[10-Jun-20 11:49 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[10-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Georgia's elections were an absolute mess apparently


[10-Jun-20 11:49 PM] green_byte#1188
I don't trust random tweets


[10-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It may be 2020's Florida


[10-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe don't cheap out on your _elections_


[10-Jun-20 11:50 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm ANTIFA... That sounds familiar...


[10-Jun-20 11:51 PM] green_byte#1188
> a political protest movement comprising autonomous groups affiliated by their militant opposition to fascism and other forms of extreme right-wing ideology.


[10-Jun-20 11:51 PM] green_byte#1188
Ok.


[10-Jun-20 11:55 PM] green_byte#1188
And anyway


[10-Jun-20 11:55 PM] green_byte#1188
@prism stryder(intexda) any other places that says that?


[10-Jun-20 11:55 PM] green_byte#1188
I don't really trust tweets


[10-Jun-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that's her personal tweet


[10-Jun-20 11:56 PM] green_byte#1188
Who?


[10-Jun-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she made that as a threat to antifa after trump declared he was going to register antifa as a terrorist orginization


[10-Jun-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greene


[10-Jun-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the person in the article


[10-Jun-20 11:57 PM] green_byte#1188
And who is she?


[10-Jun-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is a construction company owner who is part of Qanon running for congress in georgia


[10-Jun-20 11:57 PM] green_byte#1188
Ah ok


[10-Jun-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219985839751561226/720391574990880768/image0.jpg

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[10-Jun-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the woman in this picture

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[10-Jun-20 11:58 PM] green_byte#1188
Still would like another article about the situation


[10-Jun-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
about trump declarign antifa an terroist organization?

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[10-Jun-20 11:59 PM] green_byte#1188
Yes


[10-Jun-20 11:59 PM] green_byte#1188
I couldn't really find anything


[10-Jun-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52868295

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Trump says Antifa will be declared 'terror group'
The US president blames the anti-fascist group for fomenting violent unrest at George Floyd protests.
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[11-Jun-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/31/866369727/trump-lays-blame-for-clashes-on-radical-left-anarchists

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Trump Lays Blame For Clashes On 'Radical-Left Anarchists'
As overlapping crises convulse an anxious nation, Trump seeks to cast blame for widespread protests gripping cities on "radical-left anarchists" like Antifa.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/05/31/ap_20151790422668_wide-f6ed6e36f9b77def1dc3b0f65df4cffe1bcab462.jpg?s=1400


[11-Jun-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/31/george-floyd-protests-trump-antifa-terrorist-organization/5299766002

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Trump says he'll designate antifa a terror organization, blames gro...
David Cole, the ACLU's national legal director, said "there is no authority to designate a wholly domestic organization as terrorists."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/05/31/USAT/e4f875ce-529b-437a-8aa5-75c5999a96a7-AP_Trump.jpg?crop=2321,1306,x1200,y154&width=2321&height=1306&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[11-Jun-20 12:02 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't really notice any political stuff till I really notice stuff popping up about it everywhere.


[11-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait it's acutally enshrined in law you can't make a domestic organization designated as terrorists?


[11-Jun-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 if you want to be ethical about printers, eat the extra cost and buy a laser printer


[11-Jun-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
if you don't care and just need to print cheaply, buy a new inkjet printer every time you need to print


[11-Jun-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
ex https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FMS1DMX/


[11-Jun-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
toner effectively lasts forever since it's mostly little pieces of microplastic with dye embedded onto them, rather than an alcohol-solvated ink that can dry up. the toner cartridges aren't cheap, but once you get one you don't need to keep buying more, you can just have them refilled


[11-Jun-20 12:05 AM] byte[]#2610
and the refill cost is next to nothing


[11-Jun-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
I haven't printed in years, but ty


[11-Jun-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie blue states are no longer america then


[11-Jun-20 12:09 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/arts/television/protests-fictional-cops.html#click=https://t.co/58jYa3TV8m

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By Amanda Hess
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/arts/television/protests-fictional-cops.html
The Protests Come for ‘Paw Patrol’
A backlash is mounting against depictions of “good cops,” on television and in the street.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/11/arts/10cops-fictional1/10cops-fictional1-facebookJumbo.jpg


[11-Jun-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
chinese artist and eevee go :ts_cry:


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I can't believe they're going after Paw Patrol 34


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Uh I mean hahaha these protestors are weird huh hahaha


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
😶


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm more surprised no one has mentioned blue bloods


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
blue bloods?


[11-Jun-20 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://uproxx.com/music/ice-cube-antisemitic-conspiracy-meme/

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Aaron Williams
https://uproxx.com/music/ice-cube-antisemitic-conspiracy-meme/
Ice Cube Shares A Streak Of Conspiracy Memes, Including One Being C...
The controversial rap icon posted a stream of memes that drew the wrong kind of attention.
https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ice-cube-feature.jpg?w=710


[11-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guys


[11-Jun-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ice Cube's not ok rn


[11-Jun-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Bloods_(TV_series)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Bloods_(TV_series)
Blue Bloods (TV series)
Blue Bloods is an American police procedural drama television series that airs on CBS. Its main characters are members of the fictional Reagan family, an Irish Catholic family in New York City with a history of work in law enforcement. Blue Bloods stars Tom Selleck as New York...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Blue_Bloods_2010_Intertitle.png


[11-Jun-20 12:18 AM] jlun2#8758
time to cancel it :glowing_eyes:


[11-Jun-20 12:23 AM] AaronMk#4499
It's a boring show so no one would miss it.


[11-Jun-20 12:24 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[11-Jun-20 12:24 AM] AaronMk#4499
Frankly offensive in how inoffensive it is


[11-Jun-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It's friendly safe cop drama"


[11-Jun-20 12:24 AM] green_byte#1188
And paw patrol is woth going after?


[11-Jun-20 12:25 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm surprised I am still losing even more faith in humanity...


[11-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Jun-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
> And paw patrol is woth going after?
@green_byte 
It's been a dumb meme for a while it just took the NYT until now to feel like they should report on it.


[11-Jun-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon lmao


[11-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
>vegan


[11-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Circus


[11-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bruh, ya gotta eat the rich.


[11-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/us/all-lives-matter-reenact-george-floyd-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/us/all-lives-matter-reenact-george-floyd-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
All Lives Matter protesters re-enacted George Floyd's death as a Bl...
A New Jersey corrections officer was suspended and a FedEx worker fired after two All Lives Matter demonstrators mockingly re-enacted George Floyd's death on Monday to apparently counter a Black Lives Matter march in Franklinville, New Jersey.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200610095309-franklinville-nj-all-lives-matter-protest-reenactment-super-tease.jpg


[11-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I love the optics trap of this whole deal.


[11-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, kneeling on someone's nekk is completely inappropriate unless you are trying to kill them, full stop.


[11-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But all these racists insist that "no no, it's totally safe!", so they go and reenact it.


[11-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they just make themselves look like retarded douches.


[11-Jun-20 12:33 AM] green_byte#1188
And paw patrol is woth going after?
> @green_byte 
> It's been a dumb meme for a while it just took the NYT until now to feel like they should report on it.
@AaronMk 
I found out about it a short time after I found out about the protests.


[11-Jun-20 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Welcome to the meme cycle then


[11-Jun-20 12:34 AM] green_byte#1188
:Chase: :upvote:


[11-Jun-20 12:34 AM] green_byte#1188
And as a side note


[11-Jun-20 12:37 AM] green_byte#1188
This image has been around for quite a while before all this nonsense

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[11-Jun-20 12:38 AM] green_byte#1188
And I never really understood it.


[11-Jun-20 12:39 AM] green_byte#1188
I always thought it was something that had no meaning.


[11-Jun-20 12:39 AM] green_byte#1188
But it's been spread around a bit lately.


[11-Jun-20 12:39 AM] green_byte#1188
So I guess it has a meaning. :RDshrug:


[11-Jun-20 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
Well it has two parts to it: All Dogs Go To Heaven is a reference to a nineties cartoon about how all dogs go to heaven. Well, sort of. The protagonists don't go to heaven because they fucked up and have to correct their mistakes before moving on. The other part is Paw Patrol at which point it relates to discourse surrounding the police, which at that point you can just kinda look into what the serious "defund police!" or "abolish police!" battle cries are for.


[11-Jun-20 12:41 AM] AaronMk#4499
To make the longer discourse prior to this moment against cops easier to understand, I quote an old tweet: "White people treat 911 like it's customer service"


[11-Jun-20 12:41 AM] green_byte#1188
I kinda got the all dogs go to heaven was a cartoon thin


[11-Jun-20 12:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder, this is a scene that exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7khtV7GAs

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Aaron Stewart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7khtV7GAs
All Dogs Go To Heaven: Charlie's Hell Nightmare (Full Uncut Scene)
Here is the full uncut Hell nightmare from Don Bluth's 1989 animated classic. All Dogs Go To Heaven is a trademark of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gr7khtV7GAs/hqdefault.jpg


[11-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Karmadose#6969
I've got to rewatch that movie, I bet it will be a trip now that I'm older


[11-Jun-20 12:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Man, the Hell scene was a nightmare of a trip when I was a kid.


[11-Jun-20 12:44 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[11-Jun-20 12:45 AM] green_byte#1188
You know there's a problem when you are loseing more faith in humanity when you already have none...


[11-Jun-20 12:45 AM] green_byte#1188
Also


[11-Jun-20 12:46 AM] green_byte#1188
"defund police"


[11-Jun-20 12:46 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 12:46 AM] green_byte#1188
Don't think that's a good idea


[11-Jun-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less a defunding, and more a reallocate and rebuild kind of deal


[11-Jun-20 12:47 AM] green_byte#1188
How so?


[11-Jun-20 12:47 AM] green_byte#1188
And where is something about that?


[11-Jun-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s taking the overmassed police budget and pushing it to services who need it more such as hospitals, mental health, and emergency services. while stripping downt he police program and rebuilding it fromt he ground up with new officers who are harder to compromise with corruption

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thistbh 

[11-Jun-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/what-is-defund-police-trnd/index.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/us/what-is-defund-police-trnd/index.html
There's a growing call to defund the police. Here's what it means
Instead of funding a police department, a sizable chunk of a city's budget is invested in communities, especially marginalized ones where much of the policing occurs.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200603071138-02-george-floyd-protest-0531-washington-super-tease.jpg


[11-Jun-20 12:49 AM] green_byte#1188
All this stupidity is giving me a headache...


[11-Jun-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our police arent really our police anymore, they;re more like a government paid terrorist organization


[11-Jun-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If they don't rebuild it fromt he ground up then it;s likely nothing will change because the corrupt officers will just keep coming back and wrecking shit


[11-Jun-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less a total dismantling and more scrapping everyone and hiring a new force full of "good cops" so that even if a bad cop or 2 get back in it's harder for them to turn the system back to the way it was


[11-Jun-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The main thing right now is getting rid of qualified immunity


[11-Jun-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Qualified immunity is designed to protect all but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law. Law enforcement officers are entitled to qualified immunity when their actions do not violate a clearly established statutory or constitutional right.


[11-Jun-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fletc.gov/sites/default/files/PartIXQualifiedImmunity.pdf


[11-Jun-20 12:57 AM] green_byte#1188
> On Sunday, nine members of the Minneapolis city council announced they intend to disband the city's police force entirely.


[11-Jun-20 12:57 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[11-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I do enjoy how these people in Seattle keep up Marx's hate of the lumpenproletariat


[11-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
read: one of the major reasons Communism doesn't work


[11-Jun-20 12:58 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm getting closer and closer to wanting to move to somewhere else...


[11-Jun-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to move out of america for different reasons


[11-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Karmadose#6969
It's way too common to see officers get away with severe fuckups. I understand having leeway for a tough job to do, but it's gotten out of hand, and the george floyd murder was the straw to break the camels back. Now there's people who are fed up with the racism and corruption


[11-Jun-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
namely my lack of healthcare and a house


[11-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Police officers should only be responding to situations with a threat of immediate physical harm or major destruction/theft of property


[11-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An armed robbery, yes


[11-Jun-20 12:59 AM] AaronMk#4499
> "defund police"
@green_byte 

The strict call itself is problematic but the real conversation behind it is to establish new and better suited programs where cops are not best for, such as deploying social workers to reply to problems involving addiction or mental health.


[11-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A bad check/minor shoplifting, no


[11-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A rape/violent domestic disturbance, yes


[11-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Karmadose#6969
Unfortunately while people like Trump and Barr are in charge of our justice system I think any real change is going to be on hold


[11-Jun-20 01:01 AM] jlun2#8758
🦧


[11-Jun-20 01:02 AM] green_byte#1188
Honestly I find the way it is, is fine


[11-Jun-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump;s staff says he plans to sign an executive order on the subject but knowing trump it will either do absolutely nothing but pay lipservice, or fuck it up worse


[11-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Karmadose#6969
It seems fine until it's on your doorstep


[11-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Karmadose#6969
I didn't think homeless person problems were an actual big deal until I had to walk over someone sleeping on our apartment porch area lol


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] green_byte#1188
That's a Minor thing


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Karmadose#6969
I don't agree


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s all fine and dandy till cops bust down your door, and take all your money with no warrant because they can legally do that


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose can confirm. "why dont you fat losers just eat less"
 felt starving despite overweight; telling ppl to eat less is painful to do"


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] green_byte#1188
No not really@prism stryder(intexda)


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called civil forfeiture


[11-Jun-20 01:04 AM] green_byte#1188
:SweetieHuh:


[11-Jun-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) link articles


[11-Jun-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
Civil forfeiture in the United States
Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture, is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with ...


[11-Jun-20 01:05 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:  never heard of them before


[11-Jun-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you try to sue the police for it, qualified immunity basically makes it so the judge has to drop your case and the police walk away unphased


[11-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Yuri#4154
Welp


[11-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
no that's not quite right


[11-Jun-20 01:07 AM] green_byte#1188
> civil forfeiture as a powerful tool to thwart criminal organizations involved in the illegal drug trade, with $12 billion annual profits,[3] since it allows authorities to seize cash and other assets from suspected narcotics traffickers.


[11-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Yuri#4154
JK Rowling went full TERF


[11-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
civil asset forfeiture turns the asset seizure process into a _civil case_


[11-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
which means you are not entitled to an attorney


[11-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
if you want it back, you have to pay for your defense


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Karmadose#6969
Seeing how trigger-happy cops are with using pepper spray is enough for me to agree with police restructuring


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Karmadose#6969
There is some disgusting footage being shown to light from these recent protests


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
literally thousands of videos of police beating up protestors


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
pepper spraying people who are kneeling or lying on the ground


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
slashing tires


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant there's also this

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant
No-knock warrant
In the United States, a no-knock warrant is a warrant issued by a judge that allows law enforcement officers to enter a property without immediate prior notification of the residents, such as by knocking or ringing a doorbell. In most cases, law enforcement will identify thems...


[11-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
tear gassing people to make way


[11-Jun-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not crowd control it's assertion of dominance


[11-Jun-20 01:09 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't think so.


[11-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Karmadose#6969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acsSE5AZXsQ

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It's Amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acsSE5AZXsQ
Protester gets maced and shot in the face with a tear gas canister ...
bookmark it for latest viral video and news https://gadgetcrutches.com/viral/ Please make this go viral.Police and National Guard patrolling neighborhood and shooting civilians on their own property. Make America see this link :- https://bit.ly/36LRnkB 
police officers escalat...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/acsSE5AZXsQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Karmadose#6969
Apparently in the middle east people are known to be killed from having those get lodged in their face when shot like that


[11-Jun-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri I assume that has almost no effect on fans? on a harry potter server no one mentioned it at a glance


[11-Jun-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847 here's a twitter thread of videos

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T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette)
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266751520055459847
To simplify following the criminal justice news of the last 36 hours, I posted a set of 10 links to police brutality videos on Facebook 

Can't do that here, obvs

So I'm putting them into a thread
Retweets
64910
Likes
91794
Twitter


[11-Jun-20 01:13 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Yuri#4154
@jlun2 I've actually seen a lot of Harry Potter fans defend her on social media


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what did she say now?


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri even trans fans?


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
insane terf batshittery


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm


[11-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/
J.K. Rowling Writes about Her Reasons for Speaking out on Sex and G...
Warning: This piece contains inappropriate language for children.  This isn’t an easy piece to write, for reasons that will shortly become clear, but I know it’s time to explain myself on an issue surrounded by toxicity. I write this without any desire to add to that toxicity....


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
note that Radcliffe already responded a few days earlier https://www.thetrevorproject.org/2020/06/08/daniel-radcliffe-responds-to-j-k-rowlings-tweets-on-gender-identity/

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jsilberman
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/2020/06/08/daniel-radcliffe-responds-to-j-k-rowlings-tweets-on-gender-identity/
Daniel Radcliffe Responds to J.K. Rowling’s Tweets on Gender Identi...
By Daniel Radcliffe I realize that certain press outlets will probably want to paint this as in-fighting between J.K. Rowling and myself, but that is […]
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Dan-Color-Headshot-3-1.jpg


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266753948951744514

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T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette)
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1266753948951744514
5️⃣ Las Vegas, NV: beating a variety of unarmed protestors for sport

https://t.co/c7Sdf0QnEy
Retweets
1527
Likes
3321
Twitter


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Karmadose#6969
"My interest in trans issues pre-dated Maya’s case by almost two years, during which I followed the debate around the concept of gender identity closely."


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Karmadose#6969
Oh no I don't like where this is going


[11-Jun-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/jk-rowling-antitrans-statement>
apparently she responded
> J.K. Rowling Followed Up Her Anti-Trans Tweets With A Full Anti-Trans Essay

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oof (3) 

[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@Karmadose :roseconfused: 
google gave <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodesk_Maya>


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
just read dan's statement, it's all you need to read anyway


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 Maya Forstater


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
another terf


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Yuri#4154
I loved her books when I was a kid so I was... disappointed when I found out she was a TERF


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] green_byte#1188
I'll say most of the videos are fine


[11-Jun-20 01:16 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmmm.


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Karmadose#6969
Yeah Dan has the right take


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] green_byte#1188
TERF?


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte noticed you're kinda contrarian by now so im not surprised


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
:transgender_pride_flag: -exclusionary radical feminist


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
you _don't_ want to be called a terf


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Yuri#4154
"""Feminist"""


[11-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Karmadose#6969
Anytime someone feels the need to make a statement akin to 'I'm not transphobic but' it always goes south


[11-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Karmadose#6969
trans-exclusionary radical feminist


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Karmadose#6969
it's like extremist feminists that think trans people are monsters


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I'm not ____ but" is usually a bad sign


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] green_byte#1188
contrarian?


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not gay but you look pretty hot tonight


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Yuri#4154
The UK is basically the TERF capital of the world


[11-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Yuri#4154
God I hate this country


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
come to the US


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
:xd:


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] green_byte#1188
> a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Pay me


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
was joking


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Karmadose#6969
I occasionally browse terf subreddits for fun, same with conspiracy and trump supporting ones


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Jokes are illegal


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Karmadose#6969
they all share a similar energy


[11-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Yuri#4154
1000 year dungeon


[11-Jun-20 01:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte 
> adjective
> opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.


[11-Jun-20 01:21 AM] jlun2#8758
w/ respect to the 10 ppl that talk here i mean


[11-Jun-20 01:21 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm just analytical about stuff


[11-Jun-20 01:22 AM] green_byte#1188
~~someties too much~~


[11-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Yuri#4154
@Karmadose I... try to avoid doing that (to not fuck up my mental health) but TERF fanfics tend to appear on other subs (like TrueOffMyChest and AITA) often


[11-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Yuri#4154
So recently I've been avoiding r/all and r/popular


[11-Jun-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
@Yuri if you want some fun try reading r/AmITheAngel


[11-Jun-20 01:24 AM] green_byte#1188
Honestly I just don't see the problems in some of the videos.


[11-Jun-20 01:24 AM] green_byte#1188
Well I don't understand the second one


[11-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Karmadose#6969
It's definitely a once a week type of activity. I start feeling weird consuming too much of it


[11-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Karmadose#6969
It's like creepy pastas


[11-Jun-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically it;s swarms of cops descending on peaceful protestors and media not doing anything hostile using potentially lethal methods


[11-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Yuri#4154
@byte[] I took a quick glance at that sub and I'm already in love


[11-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Yuri#4154
Thanks


[11-Jun-20 01:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/426-musings-6820

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Chapo Trap House
https://m.soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/426-musings-6820
426 - Musings (6/8/20)
Chris picks Matt’s mind on a few topics from our rapidly evolving political moment, and some topics Matt’s brought up in his recent live streams.
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-jcw34tnjVp4ycDV5-Jz3zEQ-large.jpg


[11-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Karmadose#6969
Apparently there are grenades that contain a flash bang, rubber bullets AND tear gas being used on protesters


[11-Jun-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I think there's an OMCCirclejerk but I'm not sure


[11-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Karmadose#6969
and some are duds that get left behind for kids to go play with


[11-Jun-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
try reading that one instead of TrueOffMyChest


[11-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Yuri#4154
Circlejerk subs are my favourite


[11-Jun-20 01:26 AM] green_byte#1188
@prism stryder(intexda) I was referring to the delivery boy one


[11-Jun-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and of course the infallible Gamingcirclejerk


[11-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Yuri#4154
Praise Geraldo


[11-Jun-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
BanVideoGames


[11-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Yuri#4154
There's nothing quite as fun as going on a popular BanVideoGames post and sorting the comments by controversial


[11-Jun-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
people fall for the bait so hard


[11-Jun-20 01:31 AM] green_byte#1188
Good 'ol overthinking things...


[11-Jun-20 01:33 AM] green_byte#1188
This whole riot thing is a great example of this.


[11-Jun-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanVideoGames/comments/h073hf/share_this_to_scare_off_gmers/

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r/BanVideoGames - Share this to scare off g*mers
941 votes and 276 comments so far on Reddit
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[11-Jun-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
it's supposed to be a joke, but it's sad


[11-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Yuri#4154

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[11-Jun-20 01:37 AM] wren#0114

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[11-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502181-officer-involved-in-george-floyd-death-leaves-jail-after-posting-bond

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Officer involved in George Floyd death leaves jail after posting bond
One of the officers present at the scene where George Floyd was detained by Minneapolis police shortly before his death has been released from jail on bond.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/police.officers.minneapolis.floyd_.george.0529.jpg


[11-Jun-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm ok with that


[11-Jun-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
flight seems unlikely


[11-Jun-20 01:39 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm..


[11-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd be more worried about him being a danger to himself


[11-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or others being a danger to him


[11-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Dude let's kick everyone out and have moon colonies"


[11-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Six months later_


[11-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Help us NCR, New Vegas is starving :("


[11-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"oh fuck we're on the moon and forgot to bring oxygen"


[11-Jun-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
@wren it's a sin, so only do it if you have a fetish for moral corruption


[11-Jun-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte become derpi dev pls


[11-Jun-20 01:47 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.idropnews.com/aapl/apple-reaches-record-breaking-1-53-trillion-in-market-value/137383

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Kelly Hodgkins
https://www.idropnews.com/aapl/apple-reaches-record-breaking-1-53-trillion-in-market-value/137383
Apple Reaches Record-Breaking $1.53 Trillion in Market Value
The economy may be tanking because of the coronavirus pandemic, but that isn't stopping Apple's stock from climbing to another record high. Not only is
https://cdn.idropnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/18143113/tim-cook-apple-event.jpg


[11-Jun-20 01:49 AM] wren#0114
how is it a sin tho


[11-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>"Even if the rioters have looted our phones, they're still locked to our storefront."


[11-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain: 💰


[11-Jun-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
@wren sky daddy's book tells us so ofc!


[11-Jun-20 01:51 AM] wren#0114
if there's lust, that's the sin


[11-Jun-20 01:52 AM] wren#0114

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[11-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[11-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*masturbate together*


[11-Jun-20 01:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon @fallout pic ty! that's one of the poses I had in mind


[11-Jun-20 01:56 AM] green_byte#1188
@jlun2 why?


[11-Jun-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
> I'm just analytical about stuff
> someties too much
be dev


[11-Jun-20 01:57 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 01:57 AM] green_byte#1188
If it happens


[11-Jun-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-casualties-idUSKBN23H35W

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U.S. coronavirus cases now over 2 million: Reuters tally
Total U.S. coronavirus cases surpassed 2 million on Wednesday, according to a Reuters tally, as health officials urge anyone who took part in massive protests for racial justice to get tested.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200610&t=2&i=1521818190&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG5920N


[11-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
NUMBER BIG


[11-Jun-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@wren is that on derpi?


[11-Jun-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
RIS didn't find it


[11-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
hmm, don't remember


[11-Jun-20 02:00 AM] wren#0114
looks like not


[11-Jun-20 02:01 AM] wren#0114
wtf

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[11-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/30881223/

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Patreon Commission #012 by jcosneverexisted
Requested by Mitya — [url=https://www.patreon.com/posts/3648780][About Patreon Commissions][/url]
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[11-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Artist Upload Only
So... you'll need to poke the artist :shrugpony:


[11-Jun-20 02:04 AM] wren#0114
I thought maybe I did the edit way back, but I probably wouldn't have done king james


[11-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh, was already uplaoded


[11-Jun-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
fullsize original https://i.imgur.com/d9MJ7uH.jpg

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[11-Jun-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
idk why the one the artist uploaded is so small


[11-Jun-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's barely readable


[11-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FA size limits I guess


[11-Jun-20 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
pls replace if possible if its publically posted


[11-Jun-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
can't find anywhere it's publicly posted

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[11-Jun-20 02:18 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.

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[11-Jun-20 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lol not even a day and CHAZ falls to a warlord.


[11-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
This is why we need Eugene Levine in the world


[11-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
And bring civility and striaght communism through the abolition of milk


[11-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Straight 📠


[11-Jun-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270507442074460161

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Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270507442074460161
Tucker Carlson attacks Elmo https://t.co/KTkycca7SP
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[11-Jun-20 02:44 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 02:46 AM] green_byte#1188
That's doesn't seem political.


[11-Jun-20 02:47 AM] green_byte#1188
Oh.


[11-Jun-20 03:31 AM] green_byte#1188
@jlun2 and I don't think I would be a good dev.


[11-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odds as of today

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[11-Jun-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
how tf is clinton in the odds


[11-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Clinton is in the odds I guess if something happens to Biden


[11-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they'd probably go with Sanders, or Cuomo, or maybe one of the people being vetted for his VP


[11-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You put $100 on Clinton and if DC fucking explodes or something and she gets elected, you make $100k


[11-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the people taking bets aren't going to take bets on Clinton anymore


[11-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They started paying out bets she would win in October 2016


[11-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>There are now states less red than Texas


[11-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It'll be weird when the eastern seaboard is all blue, except SC


[11-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Cloudy#3004
democrats are largely in urban areas


[11-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Cloudy#3004
republicans are largely rural ones


[11-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbs decide elections


[11-Jun-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon wait seriously?


[11-Jun-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
that's how betting odds work


[11-Jun-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
is anyone trying


[11-Jun-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
betting odds are a terrible way to judge the viability of anything


[11-Jun-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
ignore it


[11-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgflip.com/264un3.jpg

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[11-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, do you know the plot of bioshock 2?


[11-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All I remember about Bioshock 2 is bees


[11-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not that familiar with bioshock 2


[11-Jun-20 04:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
bioshock 2 you are the big daddy now.

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[11-Jun-20 04:13 AM] wren#0114

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[11-Jun-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sanders is not a communist


[11-Jun-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's a milquetoast social-democrat, and that's being generous


[11-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't an RP channel


[11-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This was rp?


[11-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I thought it was shitposting


[11-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sometimes I feel you should update channel description.


[11-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It clashes a little being so shitposty.


[11-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Crow#5457
don't think there's a single channel on this server that hasn't been shitposted in


[11-Jun-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Must be the language barrier as the dude clearly doesn't speak English as their first language


[11-Jun-20 04:25 AM] wren#0114
implying politics is more than just shitposts now


[11-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/3iJFzaF.jpg

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[11-Jun-20 04:28 AM] wren#0114

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[11-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If you want


[11-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Have a good one


[11-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
that seems extreme, but okay


[11-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Lonely you should have pinged @Crow


[11-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Since idc about shitposts.


[11-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I never said anything about shitposts


[11-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I was saying that putting the "princess luna princess celestia" stuff in the politics channel was off topic


[11-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I thought they were saying Celestia should be president or something


[11-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's hard to tell


[11-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2S4LTg80As

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Sergeant Aki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2S4LTg80As
Dancin’ Military Style
None of the music and clips are owned by me. Also I hope you enjoy just your average soldier having some fun.
Music: Dancin’ -Aaron Smith [Krono Remix]
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n2S4LTg80As/maxresdefault.jpg


[11-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
the fascists when they see the military taking over


[11-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/nathanfielder/status/1270517071625859072

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nathan fielder (@nathanfielder)
https://twitter.com/nathanfielder/status/1270517071625859072
I know how it feels! I can’t express how grateful I am to serve my fans. I’m overwhelmed by how many people took the time to make my day a little brighter. https://t.co/rFMkVlt4ae
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[11-Jun-20 04:55 AM] byte[]#2610
:dogkek:


[11-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[11-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.emissourian.com/public_announcements/we-are-sorry/article_67510bf6-ab12-11ea-bfe3-db28a67f1b93.html

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We Are Sorry
We want to address the editorial cartoon that ran in the Wednesday, June 10th issue of the Washington Missourian. As co-owners we believe it was racist and in no circumstance
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/emissourian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/eb/9eb2a540-7378-11ea-855e-f3bb23323cea/5e8383d718a9e.image.png?resize=1047%2C200


[11-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The editorial process has been that Bill Miller, Sr., our father and publisher, made the decision to publish this syndicated cartoon without our knowledge. We saw the cartoon at the same time as our readers and were just as outraged and horrified as our staff and community. Had we known we would have vehemently fought against publishing it. We believe this is the reason we were kept in the dark about its publication."


[11-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>When your Boomer dad thinks he knows better


[11-Jun-20 05:10 AM] wren#0114
they should defund 911, just so that it gets re-implemented with modern tech instead of the janky jangle it currently is


[11-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's the idea


[11-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like the thing used for medical emergencies in some places?


[11-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Where people use a mobile app or something


[11-Jun-20 05:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Vote for Trump! Vote for Trump!

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[11-Jun-20 05:45 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200609/p2g/00m/0na/099000c

I remember watching this live

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Japan's NHK apologizes for clip on US BLM protests after racism acc...
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[11-Jun-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270914092295950337

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Radical Left Governor @JayInslee and the Mayor of Seattle are being taunted and played at a level that our great Country has never seen before. Take back your city NOW. If you don’t do it, I will. This is not a game. These ugly Anarchists must be stooped IMMEDIATELY. MOVE FAS...
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[11-Jun-20 05:59 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/interior-drilling-florida-waters-november-election-310595

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Interior to push drilling in Florida waters after November election
Former Secretary Ryan Zinke backed away from Florida drilling after howls from state leaders.
https://static.politico.com/ea/39/b3d580ea467c9a2944e85ddb343c/200610-florida-coast-gty-773.jpg


[11-Jun-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
there's going to be a giant oil spill there wont there


[11-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Only after the elections :^)


[11-Jun-20 06:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://apnews.com/9c334b98452b2c021bcbc98dd5b51841

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NASCAR bans Confederate flag from its races, venues
For more than 70 years, the Confederate flag was a familiar sight at NASCAR races. Through the civil rights era right on through the season opener at Daytona in February, the flag dotted infield...
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[11-Jun-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Finally


[11-Jun-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
No more traitor flags


[11-Jun-20 06:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nascar ban their base


[11-Jun-20 07:12 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony  I'm sure the ones who stayed & really want to keep that design will find a way to sneak a conf. sign


[11-Jun-20 07:13 AM] green_byte#1188
Didn't know that.


[11-Jun-20 07:13 AM] green_byte#1188
Anyway.


[11-Jun-20 07:14 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm. I'm sorta surprised a certain picture of :Chase: isn't being circulated with all this nonsense..
Though it could possibly too far... Though bottle rockets have been shot at cops (at least that I heard)


[11-Jun-20 07:15 AM] green_byte#1188
~~and apparently people try to run over cops as well~~


[11-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought this was a joke when I first heard about it
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/politics/trump-campaign-cnn-poll/index.html

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Trump campaign demands CNN apologize for poll that shows Biden leading
President Donald Trump's campaign is demanding CNN retract and apologize for a recent poll that showed him well behind presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
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[11-Jun-20 10:25 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh damn that was real? I'm actually astonished


[11-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
When did real life and The Onion swap places? I wasn't paying attention


[11-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Crow#5457
imagine having an ego so fragile that a poll hurts your feelings


[11-Jun-20 10:31 AM] Crow#5457
no wonder he denigrates them so much, he can't handle losing even hypothetically


[11-Jun-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-struggles-respond-crises-internal-polling-instills-fear/story?id=71182653

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As Trump struggles to respond to crises, internal polling instills ...
Messaging on the coronavirus pandemic and the growing anger about the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis was fueling a drop in Trump's numbers, sources say.
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[11-Jun-20 11:33 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Yeah, I have a feeling Biden is gonna win this next election


[11-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It ain't over 'till it's over


[11-Jun-20 11:34 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
still very true


[11-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I (and most everyone else) put Hilary winning over Trump easy


[11-Jun-20 11:35 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Then again, Democrats still have some problems


[11-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still have hurricane season left, for all we know he'll have a masterful response to it all and win over the entire eastern seaboard up to new england with ease


[11-Jun-20 11:35 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I would much rather have Bernie Sanders become president, but center-left politics is not sustainable


[11-Jun-20 11:48 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
So it appears that there are rumors that one of the characters of a children's television show would be either redesigned or removed altogether because the dog is a police pup and police in the United States are nowadays widely scrutinized: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/arts/television/protests-fictional-cops.html

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The Protests Come for ‘Paw Patrol’
A backlash is mounting against depictions of “good cops,” on television and in the street.
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[11-Jun-20 11:49 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
While I don't really care about the series (why the fuck would I?), I'm still kinda worried that Nickelodeon would eventually remove the character, and I understand that the said character is a favorite among many viewers


[11-Jun-20 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-campaign-fires-off-182855820.html

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President Donald Trump's re-election campaign sent a cease-and-desist letter to CNN demanding that it retract and apologize for a poll showing Joe Biden with a 14-point lead in the race for the White House. "We stand by our poll," a CNN spokesperson said. A Trump campaign spok...
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[11-Jun-20 11:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he didnt just demand an apology, he sent a cease and desist :wheeze:


[11-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> (why the fuck would I?)
I mean, you _are_ on a discord server for fans of My Little Pony, so...


[11-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't imagine they'll remove him, he's a merch driver. Probably will refocus the character on "community policing" or whatever


[11-Jun-20 11:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tbh i cant imagine nick taking any action what so ever


[11-Jun-20 11:59 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Seems fair. Nickelodeon has shown that they are willing to take a stand on serious topics. Last June 2, all ViacomCBS networks went dark for 8:46 minutes to protest against police brutality, including Nick


[11-Jun-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but a media black out for 8 minutes and 46 seconds doesn;t take much and doesn't screw with profits


[11-Jun-20 12:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now altering a show or removing a profitable character? that would be risky, and nick doesn't take risks


[11-Jun-20 12:03 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Removing the character is not an option, so to modify Chase while still retaining the police trait is actually a sorta reasonable option


[11-Jun-20 12:04 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
If the complaints intensify, it would really be a tough decision for the folks at Toronto


[11-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Media forgets very fast


[11-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It became acceptable to make fun of riots last days


[11-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
People get tired a little


[11-Jun-20 12:11 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Besides, it'll take a long time before police brutality is actually being addressed. America has a lot of discrimination, and this is no exception


[11-Jun-20 12:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there will also likely be calls to ban older episodes of other series featuring police in a role model position


[11-Jun-20 12:13 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
these paws uphold police brutality


[11-Jun-20 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://people.com/parents/kids-ask-heartbreaking-questions-police-brutality-sesame-street-special/ except sesame street apparently, they have this covered

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[11-Jun-20 12:14 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Seen a clip of it last weekend and it became trending on Twitter. Sesame Street is that girl period


[11-Jun-20 12:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sesame street is really tackling the hard issues lately


[11-Jun-20 12:15 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I gotta give them props for this.


[11-Jun-20 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good on them


[11-Jun-20 12:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also had a cartoon network special covering the coronavirus


[11-Jun-20 12:16 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Are you talking about "Elmo's Playdate"?


[11-Jun-20 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think so


[11-Jun-20 12:16 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Actually, it was simulcast on all WarnerMedia networks, including TBS, TNT and CNN


[11-Jun-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, neat


[11-Jun-20 12:17 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
But, we get the point


[11-Jun-20 12:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/lawmakers-tell-trump-to-stoop-tweeting-after-protest-twitter-rant-2020-6

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In a series of tweets, Trump said Seattle was being taken over by "terrorists," and that Gov. Jay Inslee needed to "take back" his city.
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[11-Jun-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-lyft-drivers-declared-employees-by-california-regulators-2020-6

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[11-Jun-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/10/874469622/report-live-pd-says-it-destroyed-video-of-black-man-dying-in-police-custody

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A&E's Popular Show 'Live PD' Is Canceled Amid Protests Over Police ...
The cancellation comes as reports surface that a Live PD camera crew's raw footage of the March 2019 death of Javier Ambler, a black man who died in police custody, had been destroyed.
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[11-Jun-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1270818128629395456

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Christopher Colombus has been decapitated in Boston.
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[11-Jun-20 01:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
why?


[11-Jun-20 01:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus#Criticism_and_defense_in_modern_scholarship

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Christopher Columbus
Christopher Columbus (; before 31 October 1451 – 20 May 1506) was an Italian explorer and colonizer who completed four voyages across the Atlantic Ocean that opened the New World for conquest and permanent European colonization of the Americas. His expeditions, sponsored by th...
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[11-Jun-20 01:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i didnt know that wtf


[11-Jun-20 01:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Turzai resigned. Didn't see that coming


[11-Jun-20 01:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@byte[]


[11-Jun-20 01:52 PM] byte[]#2610
local leg


[11-Jun-20 01:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mercuri's hand-picked as the replacement


[11-Jun-20 01:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/i-can-t-breathe-oklahoma-man-tells-police-dying-i-n1229586

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'I can't breathe,' Oklahoma man tells police before dying. 'I don't...
Newly released video of the 2019 incident shows officers restraining Derrick Scott, 42, who is heard asking repeatedly for his medicine and saying he can’t breathe.
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[11-Jun-20 02:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270903949038694401?s=19

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LAW & ORDER!
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[11-Jun-20 02:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/cXkH_6-aG-8

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TEDx Talks
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My school knew there would be a shooting and did nothing | Brent Ca...
Through an examination of recent history, there have been glaring issues preceding most events of gun violence in schools. Combining this analysis with my personal background, I evaluate if there are simple ways in which we can tackle this complex issue. Brent is a current und...
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[11-Jun-20 02:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53003688

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Zoom closes account of US-based Chinese activists
The video conference app is already facing scrutiny over its security and privacy controls.
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[11-Jun-20 02:26 PM] Synfag#9241

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[11-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
how the fuck did derrick scott get a collapsed lung?


[11-Jun-20 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
> The autopsy said the police response did not result in “fatal trauma” and listed several other “significant” factors that contributed to his death, including physical restraint, recent methamphetamine use, asthma, emphysema and heart disease.


[11-Jun-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People just be choosing to die while in police custody to inconvenience them, is all


[11-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/coronavirus-banks-collapse/612247/

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The Looming Bank Collapse
The U.S. financial system could be on the cusp of calamity. This time, we might not be able to save it.
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[11-Jun-20 02:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Food, housing, banks. The fall has come. May it also tear down the oligarchs of the state so capitalism as it exists can not survive. If we can not have communism after this, let it at least be a restart of capitalism


[11-Jun-20 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/10/how-to-prevent-the-coming-coronavirus-tsunami-of-evictions.html?__twitter_impression=true

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A housing 'apocalypse' is coming as coronavirus protections across ...
Evicting people in the middle of a global health crisis puts them at greater risk of contracting and spreading Covid-19, turning "a catastrophe into an apocalypse."
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[11-Jun-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/maobxby/status/1270735459623276544?s=21

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Yesterday, my parents were stopped and questioned in their own driveway for “driving a motor vehicle on the road”, and “because they can”. 
It’s suspicious to walk from your car to your house, while black. The UK is not innocent. https://t.co/Ym4DrN0hLT
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[11-Jun-20 03:42 PM] Pretty#9306
Show the documentation to the cop, everything is correct, done


[11-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
inb4 detained on suspicion of forging ownership documents


[11-Jun-20 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
I sure do enjoy the fine taste of boots


[11-Jun-20 04:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/mad_liberals/status/1265024919299072000?s=19 kill me

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Thank you President Trump!  
I'm truly humbled and honored. https://t.co/oSLXo9Jnad
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[11-Jun-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/aMwGHVa

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Eviction Court Kiosks
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[11-Jun-20 04:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TrumpTheFailure/status/1270926034196664323?s=19

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@realDonaldTrump THERE ARE PROTESTS AROUND THE USA AND THE ENTIRE WORLD!ITS NOT RADICAL LEFT DEMOCRATS,OR TERRORISTS!IM A REPUBLICAN FROM TEXAS AND ATTENDED A RALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!PLAN ON DOING MANY MORE!IM A WHITE AMERICAN,NO ANTIFA HERE!AMERICANS R SICK OF TR...
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[11-Jun-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Jun-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
triple exclamation point


[11-Jun-20 04:53 PM] byte[]#2610
forgive me for not exactly being enthusiastic about this random twitter opinion


[11-Jun-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
This is 1940s all over again


[11-Jun-20 05:32 PM] byte[]#2610
late 1920s, really


[11-Jun-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
True


[11-Jun-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
The mixture of the Great Depression along with WWIII


[11-Jun-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/502218-senate-panel-votes-to-require-pentagon-to-rename-bases-named-after

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Senate panel votes to require Pentagon to rename bases named after ...
The Republican-led Senate Armed Services Committee has approved an amendment to the annual defense policy bill that would require the Pentagon to rename bases and other assets that are named after Confederate military leaders, a source confirmed t
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[11-Jun-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great depression 2: eviction boogaloo


[11-Jun-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Jun-20 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> Youve got to be fucking retarded to beleive Japan does not have video games. They are made and manufactured and mass produced there first. The reason they dont have mass shootings are due to their strict gun laws. I saw comments about Kim jong un keeping all the games to himself. He doesn't even lead japan you fucking idiots


[11-Jun-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Reddit comments on bait posts are the finest source of humor


[11-Jun-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/502269-north-korea-warns-us-to-stay-out-of-its-affairs-to-ensure

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North Korea warned the U.S. to stay out of its affairs and threatened to disrupt the presidential election in November if the Trump administration keeps up its criticism of Pyongyang.
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[11-Jun-20 06:42 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1271052442726170624

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"Why won't these fucking plants grow already!"
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[11-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Guy with anime pfp says he is a farmer


[11-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
X


[11-Jun-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
:isee:


[11-Jun-20 07:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
https://twitter.com/GrillBorgar/status/1271071002005471232?s=20

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Commie farming thread begin!

im a farmer, these lazy bastards claim they made a garden to feed their commune. Lets take it apart.

First off, they laid down brown gardening paper and just put potting soil ontop, the ground is still living turf and since it's a park its
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[11-Jun-20 07:33 PM] Honahue#0656
hard to find a plow in a city center


[11-Jun-20 07:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Home Depot and other stores.


[11-Jun-20 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
they'll have soil but unlikely to carry a plow,rototiller I guess but that's gonna use a lot of gas to break up the parks soil


[11-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Honahue#0656
I suspect that CHAZ isn't going to last long anyway, even if they could grow enough food


[11-Jun-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's no way to in Seattle.


[11-Jun-20 07:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Grow your own food" is a long-term goal.


[11-Jun-20 07:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It would take months under the best of conditions and a lot of land.


[11-Jun-20 07:48 PM] Honahue#0656
they have a park dunno the acreage but farming the the US is mostly for cash crops not maximum calorie output, if they brought back something like the Three Sisters planting they'd get more food per acre


[11-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Their population is way too dense to rely on a park.


[11-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Honahue#0656
you can get a lot of calories from a small amount of land but it won't look like the monocrop culture you see at most farms


[11-Jun-20 07:50 PM] Honahue#0656
and it's more labor intense because you can't just run a tractor over it


[11-Jun-20 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
well you could start with a tractor to break up the soil but after that inital pass you're doing it by hand


[11-Jun-20 07:55 PM] green_byte#1188
Oh boy a lot is happening....


[11-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let me be clear here


[11-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you think a lot is suddenly happening, you haven't been paying attention for the last 50 years.


[11-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that is 100% your fault.


[11-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
So about the Live PD cancellation, @prism stryder(intexda)...


[11-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
they apparently recorded police killing a guy


[11-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
then destroyed their footage of it


[11-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
while the police considered it "justifiable homicide" and stopped investigating.


[11-Jun-20 08:13 PM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 08:14 PM] green_byte#1188
I don't really pay attention to political stuff.


[11-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need to.


[11-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politics isn't just "your wrong because you yer from a blue state"

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[11-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also "hey guys according to massive piles of research, we are killing children by the fukking thousands"


[11-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is incredibly irresponsible to ignore that stuff.


[11-Jun-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, do you know what lead paint abatement is?


[11-Jun-20 08:15 PM] green_byte#1188
No


[11-Jun-20 08:15 PM] green_byte#1188
Not really


[11-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so bakk in the day, lead was used in paint, especially on homes.


[11-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lead is a very harmful chemical in even small quantities, and removing it from most products marks a turning point in levels of violence and general IQ 20 years later in a nation's statistics.


[11-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
20 years is about how long it takes for people to grow up.


[11-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who grow up not around lead are much smarter, less prone to violent outbursts, and in general better off.


[11-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lead paint abatement is about going to low-income neighborhoods, finding lead paint, and either painting over it or outright removing it, so that it does not harm the children growing up there.


[11-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is one of the most cost-effective things you can do to lessen the gap between the rich and poor.


[11-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Congress has been slowly defunding it because conservatives hate spending money on helping poor children not be FUKKING POISONED.


[11-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Let's maybe not poison children" **is a radical political position in the United States**


[11-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
It didn't used to be. In the late 70s it was mainstream. But now, it is.


[11-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Environmentalism is kept suppressed while all sorts of lobbies fight to say they hav a right to poison your children.


[11-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the GOP goes on and on about "who will pay for it all?" whenever anybody talks about maybe spending money to fix shit, as they go around lowering the taxes used to pay for it all.


[11-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
(but mostly for the rich, who are the easiest ones to pull from to pay for it all)


[11-Jun-20 08:21 PM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 08:22 PM] green_byte#1188
That makes little sense


[11-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It makes plenty of sense when you understand their goals.


[11-Jun-20 08:22 PM] green_byte#1188
> whenever anybody talks about maybe spending money to fix shit, as they go around lowering the taxes used to pay for it all.
@Nebbie


[11-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't actually giv a fukk about whether the gov't is in debt or not.


[11-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a convenient talking point that can win over conservative voters.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they actually want is for the gov't to be beholden to the rich.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That means taxing the poor and giving the money to the rich instead of vice versa.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] green_byte#1188
Doesn't the  government deal with taxes though?


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to be the Sheriff of Nottingham, not Robin Hood.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is a political party.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one Trump's in.


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[11-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are currently in complete control of the tax system.


[11-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They passed a bill called the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.


[11-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which according to the independent analysis body **they created to ask Democrats where the money comes from** would not in fact pay for itself.


[11-Jun-20 08:25 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm...


[11-Jun-20 08:25 PM] green_byte#1188
That makes not a lot of sense.


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
What doesn't make sense about it?


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to rob from the poor and giv to the rich.


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] green_byte#1188
?


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's their main MO.


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] green_byte#1188
I don't see that


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, let's say you're the king


[11-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
there are peasants and nobility


[11-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You want to pay people to do things like build your castles and keep the farms in good shape


[11-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you establish a system where everybody pays an amount to you which you then distribute on that stuff, keeping a bit for yourself.


[11-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You could hav everyone pay the same, but some peasants hav literally nothing, while nobles hav a lot.


[11-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
So instead, you say that you'll measure what a person has in wealth or in income, and do your taxes by that.


[11-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
So the most optimal way to get lots of money to fix shit is to do this so as someone becomes wealthier, it scales heavily.


[11-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically take everything from the nobility.


[11-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, ...you're friends with the nobility. You don't want to make them poor.


[11-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you *tell* everyone the rules would make the nobles pay more.


[11-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you go and tweak the rules so that actually, the peasants pay more, like by making taxes higher on things peasants own.


[11-Jun-20 08:29 PM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[11-Jun-20 08:29 PM] green_byte#1188
That makes little sense


[11-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, you quietly pretend not to notice how much the nobility has, so they pay less than the rules say they should.


[11-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
What doesn't make sense about it?


[11-Jun-20 08:30 PM] green_byte#1188
> Then you go and tweak the rules so that actually, the peasants pay more, like by making taxes higher on things peasants own.


[11-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, your goal is to make the nobility pay less.


[11-Jun-20 08:30 PM] green_byte#1188
But why


[11-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they're your friends.


[11-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of the righteous king who wants the best kingdom, you are a corrupt king who wants his buddies to be helped out.


[11-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe I should ponify this


[11-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're Twilight Sparkle


[11-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rarity begs you to not tax her, saying she'd lose out on dress-making opportunities


[11-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
AJ does much the same


[11-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some pony you've never met meanwhile has a small farm that you could utterly destroy to pay for things.


[11-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you tweak the rules to make AJ and Rarity happy?


[11-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doing what is best for Equestria as a whole requires stabbing your friends in the bakk. Potentially, if one of them is bad at running their business, they may even lose it.

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[11-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which option do you choose, @green_byte?


[11-Jun-20 08:36 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm


[11-Jun-20 08:38 PM] green_byte#1188
I don't know


[11-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well Republicans chose the side of loyalty. And their loyalty is to businessmen.


[11-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
White businessmen, primarily.


[11-Jun-20 08:46 PM] green_byte#1188
Honestly for me it makes more sense to do it the other way.


[11-Jun-20 08:51 PM] green_byte#1188
It would be best to just do what is best for the country.


[11-Jun-20 08:52 PM] green_byte#1188
But what the fuck do I know...


[11-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
That makes you a liberal.


[11-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't make you wrong, in fact I'd say it's the much saner course of action.


[11-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are often talked of as saving the country, but the data seems to show their approach destroys it.


[11-Jun-20 08:56 PM] green_byte#1188
What is the difference between them?


[11-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically what we just went over.


[11-Jun-20 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What do they mean, "lazy bastards trying to farm"? City soil is like that on purpose


[11-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want to preserve a social hierarchy, and consider society to be culture. They value loyalty above most everything else.


[11-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals want to bring equality, and consider society to be the structures that help people liv. They value compassion above most everything else.


[11-Jun-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/CVEE4mo

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[11-Jun-20 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also i bet all these white conservative farmers willfully neglect all the majority Mexican immigrant labor their industry relies on


[11-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or to super simplify it


[11-Jun-20 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just a handful of podunk farmers can't feed a metropolis


[11-Jun-20 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A foodstuff conglomerate does


[11-Jun-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are basically Count Dooku and Mace Windu from Star Wars, and the Sith in general.


[11-Jun-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals are basically Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan from Star Wars, and the Jedi in general.


[11-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, Mace Windu isn't quite like most Jedi (he becomes *really* against change in the leadup to Order 66, and screws up their whole philosophy doing so)


[11-Jun-20 09:03 PM] green_byte#1188
Ok


[11-Jun-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are communists then


[11-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Communists are General Grievous.


[11-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
A tool used and discarded by conservatives as convenient.


[11-Jun-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[11-Jun-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd say the communists are actually the ones who would want both the jedi and sith to go away


[11-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Star Wars gets kind of weird when talking about economic policy.


[11-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody who had any power in any of the conflicts took that position.


[11-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's always Sith v. Jedi.


[11-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Now that said, the Jedi are much closer to communist.


[11-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least Stalinist.


[11-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
(They're an oligarchy that does dubious things to purse control loosely based around a liberal code of morality)


[11-Jun-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Эᴚ|∫ also uh


[11-Jun-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The dude's profile


[11-Jun-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It just screams "i'm a patriot against degenerates but i just wanna masturbate to my hentai please leave me alone"


[11-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The liberals of Star Wars are like, *individual* Jedi.


[11-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as things are a committee, Star Wars basically proves Anakin right by saying committees are ineffective authoritarian shits.


[11-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much comes with the territory, there'd be no space drama if people actually went "hey maybe we're the assholes?"


[11-Jun-20 09:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As we all know, "anti-soy-degenerates" who like anime are the worst kind of nazi

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[11-Jun-20 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idealizing a simplistic, romanticized mode of life but still enjoying the arguably most thoroughly commodified of mass-produced fandom material doesn't add up


[11-Jun-20 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the mark of every alienated, utterly pathetic recluse


[11-Jun-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 
1. anti-soy ? is that code for anti-china?
2. 
>  "i'm a patriot against degenerates but i just wanna masturbate to my hentai please leave me alone"
I'm just worried now I want equal rights for women but also have tons of :raep: on my favs now. hope i dont go conservative nut


[11-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/xRoqSyIi-98

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George Floyd Toxicology Report: Explained
George Floyd's toxicology report that was released with autopsy from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office was released week of June 1, 2020. Nothing in it absolves those officers, and the report confirms what we saw happen on camera.
Toxicology (Playlist) ► https://www.yo...
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[11-Jun-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/501096-gop-votes-give-graham-broad-subpoena-power-obama-era-probe

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GOP votes to give Graham broad subpoena power in Obama-era probe
The Senate Judiciary Committee voted Thursday to authorize subpoenas for more than 50 individuals as Republicans ramp up their investigation into the 2016 Russia probe.
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[11-Jun-20 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 so long as you actually keep contact with real life women and maintain a realistic view of them as human beings, you're good


[11-Jun-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
Obama probe? are they still on to obama gate wtf?


[11-Jun-20 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a useful distraction


[11-Jun-20 09:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Meatspace is the best leftist propaganda vehicle


[11-Jun-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will largely go nowhere but it makes things look amazing tot heir followers who beleive obama will get sent to guantanamo bay after this is done


[11-Jun-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 anti-soy is a right wing meme based on the idea that eating soy proteins makes you feminine / gay


[11-Jun-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't, obviously, but some people really do believe this


[11-Jun-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I find it rather ironic how Hitler's own ramblings against "degeneracy" were violated in his own lifetime even by himself


[11-Jun-20 09:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hitler was a full on drug junkie


[11-Jun-20 09:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So were most of his inner circle utter fucking hedonists


[11-Jun-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fascism has no coherent ideological makeup -- all that is left is its practice, and its practice is being jackboots against organized proletarian resistance and nothing more


[11-Jun-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758 (pinned)
if I wanted beans that made me gay I would just go to FurAffinity & look at male toe beans @byte[]

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[11-Jun-20 09:26 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[11-Jun-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At the end of the day, anyone who believes redshirte and brownshirts have anything in common should take a deep look at the class and money basis of these two groups


[11-Jun-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The first one tends to be actually organic


[11-Jun-20 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The second one is frequently receptive towards the tendrils of capital's most nefarious interests


[11-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/502328-biden-says-floyd-death-having-bigger-global-impact-than-mlk-assassination

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Biden says Floyd death having bigger global impact than MLK assassi...
Former Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday that even the 1968 assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. did not have the same global impact as the killing of George Floyd in police custody last month has.
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[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention how the class basis of fascism is not the proletariat, actually


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Biden doesn't understand the internet


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the petit-bourgeoisie


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean he's technically correct


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The small business owners, in short


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alongside maybe the socially isolated farmers


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the large bourgeoisie, but not overtly


[11-Jun-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Notice anything familiar?


[11-Jun-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the class basis of American patriotism


[11-Jun-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 small local business, or "I'm the manager of the local mcdonalds"


[11-Jun-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Small local business


[11-Jun-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The petty tyrant type


[11-Jun-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism, on the other hand, stems from the proletarians as a mass


[11-Jun-20 09:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There can be communists from other strata, of course, but these don't tend to be accurate in their praxis


[11-Jun-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it is in the combined interest of every other class, except maybe the countrymen, to crush any sign of resistance from the proletarians


[11-Jun-20 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
While it should be in the interest of the proletarians to absorb and subdue every other one of these classes while taking control of the means and tools of production (of necessities, services, arms, etc.) themselves


[11-Jun-20 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, how to do that is subject of debate, but that's the gist of marxian communism


[11-Jun-20 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And anything else going against that is capitalism, no matter what label fascists or liberals or even social-democrats apply to themselves


[11-Jun-20 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
tl;dr, fascists are capitalists


[11-Jun-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway uh


[11-Jun-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-will-host-first-post-covid-rally-tulsa-juneteenth-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

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Trump is restarting his campaign rallies. The first will be on June...
The 1921 Tulsa race massacre began after a rumor that a Black man raped a white elevator attendant. Reports said he just tripped and grabbed her arm.
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[11-Jun-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump appealing to his actual fanbase here


[11-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>tulsa


[11-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you mcfucking serious


[11-Jun-20 09:56 PM] jlun2#8758
google "tulsa" gave 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/african-americans-probably-ought-be-shot-more-police-top-tulsa-n1229981
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tulsa-police-slammed-after-video-shows-handcuffing-2-black-teens-n1229806

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African Americans "probably ought to be" shot more by police, a top...
The comments of Maj. Travis Yates were denounced by the mayor, the chief of police and a leading black officer.
https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_01/2705191/nbc-social-default_b6fa4fef0d31ca7e8bc7ff6d117ca9f4.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.png

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Tulsa police slammed after video shows handcuffing of 2 black teens...
The city's mayor said, “No Tulsa kid should have to fear being tackled and cuffed for walking down the street.”
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_24/3387156/200611-jaywalking-arrest-al-0823_41dd8ce1ce2b2337c7feae29b199b2fd.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[11-Jun-20 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Still going at it, i see


[11-Jun-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/man-trump-once-called-my-african-american-leaves-republican-party

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Why the man Trump once called 'my African American' is leaving the GOP
After two years of frustration with the president’s rhetoric on race and the lack of diversity in the administration, Gregory Cheadle told PBS NewsHour he has decided to leave the Republican party and run for a seat in the U.S. House of Representative as an independent in 2020.
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[11-Jun-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/seattle-police-autonomous-zone/index.html

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Seattle police want to return to vacated precinct in what protester...
Seattle police want to resume operations at a downtown precinct they left empty as protesters began occupying the area around it.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200611094412-06-protesters-autonomous-zone-seattle-capitol-hill-0610-super-tease.jpg


[11-Jun-20 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
"my african american"


[11-Jun-20 10:21 PM] byte[]#2610
I almost feel like it would have been less offensive if he had just straight up said "mah nigga"


[11-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
"A loyal slave"


[11-Jun-20 10:39 PM] green_byte#1188
... I think everything has gone too far.


[11-Jun-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/8ohsaawq89451.png

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[11-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/502252-starbucks-bans-employees-from-wearing-anything-in-support-of-black-lives

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Starbucks bans employees from wearing anything in support of Black ...
An internal memo sent to Starbucks employees last week specifically warned staffers against wearing accessories or clothes bearing messages in support of the Black Lives Matter movement.
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[11-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Numerous employees told the news outlet, however, that the company regularly allows or even encourages employees to wear pins in support of LGBTQ equality, especially during Pride Month every June."


[11-Jun-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

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Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop
I was a police officer for nearly ten years and I was a bastard. We all were.
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[11-Jun-20 11:15 PM] jlun2#8758
> Cheadle said he wouldn’t use the term “racist” to describe the president but believes he has a “white superiority complex.”
<https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/man-trump-once-called-my-african-american-leaves-republican-party>
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[11-Jun-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
isn't that... racism


[11-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah but he can't say that word because he'll get demonietized by YouTube


[11-Jun-20 11:36 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/502252-starbucks-bans-employees-from-wearing-anything-in-support-of-black-lives
@Itsthinking oh wow, they are actually fucking racist as fuck

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Starbucks bans employees from wearing anything in support of Black ...
An internal memo sent to Starbucks employees last week specifically warned staffers against wearing accessories or clothes bearing messages in support of the Black Lives Matter movement.
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[11-Jun-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Jun-20 11:47 PM] ononim#8141
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Bernie Sanders is a 'no' on ‘defund the police' https://t.co/EwXOrM1iDr
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[11-Jun-20 11:47 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Jun-20 11:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Alright lads, it's time to organize industry and workers along councilist lines so we can overthrow the state.


[11-Jun-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Jun-20 11:53 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's funny that people still think Confederate flags are anything but race-related


[11-Jun-20 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
Traitor flag is literally the expression of a confederacy explicitly made for enslaving black people


[11-Jun-20 11:54 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Exactly


[11-Jun-20 11:54 PM] green_byte#1188
There's a tad more than just racism.


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
It's mostly just racism


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] green_byte#1188
Yeah


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
Don't fall for the BS


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] green_byte#1188
But still m


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
If you want to fly a real rebel flag fly the IWW flag.


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I've heard people say it's part of their culture but the reason the Confederacy even exists is 99% "We want slaves and you won't let us have them"


[11-Jun-20 11:55 PM] AaronMk#4499
Redneck rebellion without the iffy racism.


[11-Jun-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only traitor flag i'll worship is the pure red flag don't judge me


[11-Jun-20 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[11-Jun-20 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
And they got songs to sing!


[11-Jun-20 11:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's a reason the IWW was - or, is - considered the singing union


[11-Jun-20 11:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
And they're the not-cucked Industrial Union, they being the AFL-CIO.


[12-Jun-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un-after-beautiful-letters-but-now-north-korea-is-breaking-up-with-him-report/

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North Korea is reportedly spurning future diplomacy with President Donald Trump. “I was really tough and so was he, and we went back and forth. And then we fell in love, OK? No, really, he wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters. We fell in love,” Trump told the ...
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[12-Jun-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck?????????


[12-Jun-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/11/trump-executive-order-will-encourage-police-to-adopt-use-of-force-standards.html

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Trump did not commit to more major reforms of police departments as protesters nationwide call out brutality and racism.
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[12-Jun-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1271145181757280257

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The Republican Party's 2020 platform is exactly the same as its 2016 platform. That means it condemns the “current” president — who in 2016 was, of course, Barack Obama — and calls the White House a risk to "the survival of the internet." https://t.co/HYBoXWaSTq
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[12-Jun-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
lul


[12-Jun-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump said he is finalizing an executive order to:

 “encourage police departments nationwide to meet the most current professional standards of force” and de-escalation. He said “that means force, but force with compassion.”


[12-Jun-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
the fuck does he think force means


[12-Jun-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no compassionate use of force


[12-Jun-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
remember to shoot their balls gently

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[12-Jun-20 12:11 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Compassion for the environment by using rubber bullets made of natural and biodegradeable ingredients


[12-Jun-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
you joke, but cops are out there shooting paint rounds


[12-Jun-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
...at people's faces


[12-Jun-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Force with compassion, aim for the throat"


[12-Jun-20 12:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ljkbennett/status/1271039225211883520?s=20

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Wow, that was a wild few minutes where the actual President of the USA was following me on Twitter and even sent me a message. Shame it ended so badly 😭
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[12-Jun-20 12:19 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[12-Jun-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Compassion is using means and weapons technically banned by the Geneva convention and using more of that than anyone used at Verdun ever.


[12-Jun-20 12:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tear Gas is technically banned as a war-crime.


[12-Jun-20 12:23 AM] jlun2#8758
twitter is a mistake


[12-Jun-20 12:23 AM] illumnious#7938
It will always be a mistake


[12-Jun-20 12:24 AM] illumnious#7938
also @prism stryder(intexda) nigga bring back 2016 meme


[12-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you see illumnious, Trump is like a big child, and Kim knows just how to groom them.

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[12-Jun-20 12:46 AM] jlun2#8758
groom fat manchildren


[12-Jun-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe for nebbie idk https://eev.ee/blog/2020/06/11/rowling-is-dangerously-wrong/

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[12-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
About what I expected.


[12-Jun-20 12:53 AM] jlun2#8758
I hope JK won't go out her way to make new teen books glorifying transphobia. that would be worse


[12-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, that's not her style.


[12-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her thing appears to be to get very very butthurt that people don't approve of people subtly ignoring that there's such a thing as someone with a gender identity that doesn't conform to birth sex...even after sex change operations.


[12-Jun-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
@Yuri @Raptorshy


[12-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the whole "please stop disagreeing with the one true path" thing.


[12-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone loses their job for intentionally mislabeling someone's sex on a form, Rowling goes apeshit on twitter about how it's activist judges and how dare the gov't take a stance [that isn't my own].


[12-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/riot-games-exec-placed-leave-george-floyd-post-1297918

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Riot Games Exec Placed on Leave Over George Floyd Post
The video game developer said it is investigating a Facebook post which it referred to as "abhorrent" and against company values.
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[12-Jun-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> Especially in parents. Incidentally, the most common reason given for detransitioning — which is pressure from a parent 
I mean, I have 0 faith in any parents so I suspected as much. I keep making fun of the fact supportive parents exist.


[12-Jun-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
when parents are boomers or Xers it's hard to feel sympathy


[12-Jun-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
millenial parents are better

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[12-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
On yeah. Parents are a huge barrier to transitioning for a lot of people. They often love their parents and getting so much disapproval hurts like hell do they put it off and put it off and when they finally breech the subject it has 10 years of frustration and fear built up and things often don't go well.


[12-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They don't get taken seriously, and end up getting ostracized, or passively refuse to use the right gender, jabbing at it over time


[12-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Until something snaps


[12-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Even then after all that they might detransition just to avoid it


[12-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Which is why when I transitioned I just said "I'm trans, I'm getting on hormones on this date, after then I expect female pronouns" but in less bitchy words


[12-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I was all ready to stop talking to everybody if any conflict arose, but I got lucky, fortunately.


[12-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm sure I was going somewhere with all that but thanks for letting me rant :v


[12-Jun-20 01:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[12-Jun-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[12-Jun-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
o yeah did you see that the US stonk market crashed again


[12-Jun-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://money.cnn.com/data/markets/sandp/


[12-Jun-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
7% slide in a day


[12-Jun-20 01:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only see my money lost again


[12-Jun-20 01:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Tho I bought Chinese stonk


[12-Jun-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
from NYT


[12-Jun-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
> As President Trump resumes indoor rallies, his campaign has a new policy: Attendees cannot sue if they contract the virus at the event.


[12-Jun-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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Racist Trump supporter attacks Asian American woman outside LA metro
LA resident Jeanne Heo recorded this encounter of a man who hurled racial insults at her outside the metro near North Hollywood. The man is seen calling her "ugly" and telling her "go back to Asia." Heo wrote on Facebook that, "luckily two guys punched this f*cker," but this i...
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[12-Jun-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jun-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
github gets rekt


[12-Jun-20 01:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is ICE?


[12-Jun-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
immigrations and customs enforcement


[12-Jun-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
in other words, federal police who arrest people looking vaguely hispanic and deport them, regardless of whether they are US citizens


[12-Jun-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610

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[12-Jun-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I wonder what WSB has to say


[12-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Deport first, ask questions later


[12-Jun-20 01:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There is this news that a Holocaust like gas chamber is going to happen


[12-Jun-20 01:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
For immigrants though


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/h0ytcy/the_liquidity_trap_how_qe_and_low_rates_might_be/

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[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that, just cops spraying them with anti-infectant spray or smth


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah that's bullshit why would they gas them


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
they can just starve them to death in the cold


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
no need


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, they have complained about burn and rash marks


[12-Jun-20 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So we are kinda close


[12-Jun-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
wait. printing money causes deflation?


[12-Jun-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
because banks aren't using it to make loans


[12-Jun-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
which is what increases the money supply (due to fractional reserve)


[12-Jun-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
they are using it to pay off bad debt


[12-Jun-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the liquidity trap


[12-Jun-20 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Liquidity trap? 
||Like, a crossdressing femboy full of cum?||

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[12-Jun-20 02:02 AM] wren#0114

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[12-Jun-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
if I have ever failed to mention before how much I hate the US capitalist system, now would be another time to indicate it


[12-Jun-20 02:04 AM] jlun2#8758
> As mentioned in the data further up in the post, consumer credit dropped at a much quicker rate than expected, even with projections taking coronavirus into account. Economists expected consumer credit to fall by $14 billion in April, but it fell by $68.8 billion instead. This was the largest one month drop in consumer borrowing since 1943.
wow. for once people in US actually saving money


[12-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502382-san-francisco-bans-tear-gas-says-police-will-no-longer-respond-to-non

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San Francisco Mayor London Breed (D) announced Thursday that the city's police force would undergo sweeping reform, outlawing tear gas and ending police responding to non-criminal calls.
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[12-Jun-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
will they follow through? find out tomorrow


[12-Jun-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
when the cops tear gas them anyway


[12-Jun-20 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
> London Breed
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[12-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Cops tear gas the local government instead in their own form of protest


[12-Jun-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cops start using tear gas canisters like smoke bombs to make flashy entrances on investigative calls


[12-Jun-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember when they excused covering their ID badge number with duct tape by saying it's in memorial to fellow officers who died of COVID


[12-Jun-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or "it's in memorial of george floyd"


[12-Jun-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
> The funny thing is this administration keeps wanting to give rich people money. But the well-to-do almost always save or invest it. If the government and Fed were committed to increasing the velocity of money and hitting target inflation rates, the solution is simple: Give poor people money, they are guaranteed to spend 100% of it.

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[12-Jun-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
well, yes


[12-Jun-20 02:19 AM] jlun2#8758
then for certain they will get bashed on for spending on $20 toast


[12-Jun-20 02:19 AM] jlun2#8758
or right now, $500 plushies


[12-Jun-20 02:22 AM] wren#0114
one $500 plushie or 500 $1 plushies


[12-Jun-20 02:23 AM] jlun2#8758
> 500 $1 plushies
$1 plushies that crumble to dust if I just look at them.


[12-Jun-20 02:25 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@jlun2 or just tiny plushies


[12-Jun-20 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
500 dollar dildo


[12-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Daldo


[12-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pence showing off the Trump reelection team; point out what's missing

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[12-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Respect for human dignity.


[12-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also funny how they put the one blakk guy they could get to stand front and center.


[12-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
As if they think this will work when there's a SEA of white heads around.


[12-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(the answer was "masks and any attempt at social distancing")


[12-Jun-20 03:16 AM] ononim#8141
Maybe Pence ditched Yeshua for pap Nurgle


[12-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah I was going for the less super obvious ones.


[12-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also yeah, lol, _total_ coincidence the black guy was up front


[12-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The one black employee at a Chuck E Cheese's is less token


[12-Jun-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/interior-drilling-florida-waters-november-election-310595

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Interior to push drilling in Florida waters after November election
Former Secretary Ryan Zinke backed away from Florida drilling after howls from state leaders.
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[12-Jun-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/919595/trump-predicts-america-overcome-racism-quickly-easily

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Trump predicts America will overcome racism 'very quickly and very ...
President Trump says America will be done with 'bigotry and prejudice' before we know it.
Trump traveled to Dallas on Thursday for a roundtable on race and policing, though for some reason didn't invite the top three law enforcement officials in the area, all of whom are black...
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[12-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I really hope Zinke goes to jail at some point.


[12-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Utter scum.


[12-Jun-20 04:05 AM] jlun2#8758
> Trump predicts America will overcome racism 'very quickly and very easily'
I'm convinced conservatives never faced descrimination in their lives.


[12-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't think it matters, and yes.


[12-Jun-20 04:06 AM] jlun2#8758
> Carlson — who has said white supremacy in America is a "hoax" and called the protests against police brutality an "ancient battle" between "thugs" and "normal people"


[12-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
To them, descrimination is that you had to pay more money for something, but you had enuff, and it's a mild annoyance.


[12-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if they experienced it, they'd just take it to reaffirm how whites should be on top.


[12-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd cry big crocodile tears about how they've learned that blakks might oppress whites etc.


[12-Jun-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
>  how they've learned that blakks might oppress whites
you mean time they got reported and demonitized/banned?


[12-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No but they'd use that all the same.


[12-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just educate these morons.


[12-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to be removed from office.


[12-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So, thoughts on the MT senate race?


[12-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't Bullock super popular?


[12-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I say we replace the president with a A.i


[12-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullock basically fixed half the problems the state had.


[12-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans however hav more advetising.


[12-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Political TV ads should be illegal.


[12-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Seconded


[12-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also throw in ads for medicine you can't get without a prescription


[12-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Even as a kid that always felt super scummy


[12-Jun-20 04:24 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sir Frosty
1. way too futuristic (AIs are too narrow atm)
2. almost certainly filled with bias dataset


[12-Jun-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
> “Algorithms can also develop their own unwanted biases by mistake...Famously, an algorithm for identifying polar bears and brown bears had to be discarded after it was discovered the algorithm based its classification on whether there was snow on the ground or not, and didn't focus on the bear's features at all.”
<https://www.techradar.com/news/playing-god-why-artificial-intelligence-is-hopelessly-biased-and-always-will-be>


[12-Jun-20 04:57 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is 4chan homophobic?


[12-Jun-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
no idea, but i suspect it's because they're closeted (secretly gay)


[12-Jun-20 04:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
And why are they supporting violence


[12-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's no penalty at all to it, so people do


[12-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So people see it, think it's OK, do it as well


[12-Jun-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
btw not joking about the gay part, per <https://www.salon.com/2016/05/21/the_red_state_gay_porn_habit_why_conservative_states_like_mississippi_and_north_carolina_lead_the_nation_in_same_sex_porn_consumption/>


[12-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that don't like it feel pushed out until only the worst, or loudest, voices are heard


[12-Jun-20 05:01 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I didn't know terrorists use 4chan


[12-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
incel "terrorists" have used it to publicize themselves, as well as "people" like the christchurch shooter and others


[12-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a place they can speak their mind and be at their worst and get positive reinforcement and backpats from people that agree or agree "ironically"


[12-Jun-20 05:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk why 4chan is still indexed


[12-Jun-20 05:03 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because 4chan over the years isn't a joke anymore


[12-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Moderation pretends to care I guess


[12-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
8ch and others flagrantly didn't


[12-Jun-20 05:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How did memes and political satireness turn into violence and government opposition?


[12-Jun-20 05:04 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's ridiculous how 4chan evolved into this way


[12-Jun-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It happened a long time ago


[12-Jun-20 05:05 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Then there's hate for George Floyd etc


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After the site got popular with project chanology and its presence in the media, attracted a lot of people, the worst stayed for the ride, and it got a reputation for being the worst site on the internet


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something they're proud of and try to foster as much as possible


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How did boomers get into 4chan?


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
While pretending it's a badge of honour to fight for "free speech" and "limitless discussion"


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like everything else, they took things from younger generations


[12-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They didn't


[12-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hateful, ignorant people exist in all age groups


[12-Jun-20 05:07 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Most of these hate is often caused by boomers


[12-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers are special though


[12-Jun-20 05:07 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I always hear old people being racist


[12-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of boomers were simply raised that way and never had any reason (or opportunity) to question their beliefs


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers are given shit a lot because they're a unique generation


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their parents worked their asses off to support them


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The sort on 4chan (and outside it) that are gen x/y/z are just damaged, using other people as scapegoats for whatever they don't like about themselves or society


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Has Derpibooru been a place for homophobia to be unwelcome


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their kids and grandkids work their asses off


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they do not


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The community has a lot of channers, so yes


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers benefitted from an uncommonly good economy


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And parents who wanted to spoil them


[12-Jun-20 05:09 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
There are actually people attempting to do the same thing on Derpibooru


[12-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you spot someone being a piece of shit on the site, report them


[12-Jun-20 05:10 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like posting shitty, effortless drawings of  alt-right stuff lol


[12-Jun-20 05:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
To be honest with you, Discord should make homophobic servers bannable because they can do a lot of things. Like harass a person, schedule protests, or even attempted murder


[12-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That would be a level of surveilence that isn't feasible or desired


[12-Jun-20 05:13 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I've seen servers that do serious harm


[12-Jun-20 05:14 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How did protesters and anti people ever know Discord? It's not for protesting and hatedom


[12-Jun-20 05:15 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://www.dokmz.com/2017/08/14/discord-bans-servers-that-promote-nazi-ideology/

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Discord bans servers that promote Nazi ideology
Discord, a fast-growing free chat service popular among gamers, said today that it had shut down “a number of accounts” following violence instigated by white supremacists over the weekend. The service, which lets users chat with voice and text, was being used by proponents of...
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[12-Jun-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@SymphonyDawn3 https://twitter.com/cultured_tweet/status/1247597033474723840

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[12-Jun-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
its so odd.


[12-Jun-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bit extreme, but, there really are two "active" fandoms, the ones that identify with /mlp/ and the ones that don't


[12-Jun-20 05:17 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Neo-Nazis are idiots I guess


[12-Jun-20 05:18 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They're trying to find a place in the internet where Nazism is obviously frowned upon


[12-Jun-20 05:19 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Yet they use the mainstream social media and wouldn't care about the rules


[12-Jun-20 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I was talking about this earlier


[12-Jun-20 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They ramble and ramble about "soyboys" and the "degeneracy of modern culture"


[12-Jun-20 05:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And yet they masturbate to hentai and consume the most commodified of anime


[12-Jun-20 05:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't have any principles, not to mention their utterly pathetic sense of self-righteousness


[12-Jun-20 05:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
old yet somehow still relevant:depressed:


[12-Jun-20 05:23 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The next generation is stupid tbh


[12-Jun-20 05:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait till they get in the workforce


[12-Jun-20 05:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's likely their deteriorating situation will convince them towards more radical politics


[12-Jun-20 05:27 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Americans are mostly the victim


[12-Jun-20 05:28 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean I haven't seen any foreign country doing worse because it's not been reported


[12-Jun-20 05:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> The next generation is stupid tbh
"I upvoted and shared this post about societal decay why is nothing changing"


[12-Jun-20 05:31 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
https://youtu.be/NiL5KKIxvec

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[12-Jun-20 05:32 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm digging through the traitors of america thing is making me loose braincells.


[12-Jun-20 05:35 AM] green_byte#1188
:SweetieHuh:

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[12-Jun-20 05:36 AM] green_byte#1188
(the linked tweet)

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[12-Jun-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
stop looking at it


[12-Jun-20 05:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is it deleted?


[12-Jun-20 05:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's actually the truth


[12-Jun-20 05:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why don't people want the truth?


[12-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is what deleted?


[12-Jun-20 05:37 AM] green_byte#1188
Not deleted


[12-Jun-20 05:38 AM] green_byte#1188
I said nothing about deleted


[12-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OAG is "should be in a care facility" levels of insane


[12-Jun-20 05:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How are they traitor if most people have the same idea of justice?


[12-Jun-20 05:38 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm not sure what the person who made it was intending to do, but I don't think it worked.


[12-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One Angry Gamer is peak gamergate, Symphony


[12-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything that isn't anime girls in bikinis shooting arabs is degenerate SJW propaganda


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah it's even beyond GG


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only does it have to be anime girls in bikinis


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] green_byte#1188
Fitting description.

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[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The anime girls in bikinis cannot cost money


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or it's "charging for boner culture"


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How is that related to video games @Teaspoon


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a boner communist


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] green_byte#1188
.aq @Itsthinking He's a boner communist


[12-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Itsthinking**:  He's a boner communist).


[12-Jun-20 05:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If their title is "One Angry Gamer"


[12-Jun-20 05:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Shouldn't that be for reviewing bad games and not political turmoil


[12-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's so obsessed with sex and fan service that he's even against other people on the right who are anti-porn


[12-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He accuses "the left" of being pedophiles, but viciously fights for his right for loli


[12-Jun-20 05:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'm ashamed of this AVGN knockoff


[12-Jun-20 05:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
That doesn't even do games


[12-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, all he cares about is sex


[12-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're missing part of it


[12-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If a game doesn't have T&A of Aryan women, it's degenerate propaganda or something


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want to hav tons of whatever shit pleases the masses, all apolitical


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is you can hav all the sex and drugs and rokk and roll, as long as they are white


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Politics isn't even exciting for me


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
that way, the prolies are pleased, and do not rise up about anything


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Politics right now are pretty exciting though


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
All the things are happening!


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Gamers are a lost cause and should be sentenced to the bottom of the sea, where they shall be forced to live Bioshock as audio is piped to them over speakers about the innate political qualities of the Bioshock games including praise for the games from their time about their smart political commentary.


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy would complain about the uniforms in Centrifugal Bumble-Puppy


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
This shall be their limbo


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment you take away the base stuff and start getting introspective, people question society


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Politics is rather depressing right now


[12-Jun-20 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Their purgatory.


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
What will we be like in 6 months? Who knows?


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider what happens if you make ponies less cute


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but keep in all the stuff about not being racist


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives like him would freak.


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suddenly they can't hav cute ponies distracting them from the message


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they may fear others will get the message too now.


[12-Jun-20 05:44 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm. :twihmm:

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[12-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think he likes furries


[12-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because some leftists are furries


[12-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But so are some gamers


[12-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Makes you think


[12-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, he's just super obsessed with sex


[12-Jun-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it isn't sexually appealing to him, it's subversive degenerate propaganda


[12-Jun-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the things that are sexually appealing to him must be free, or it is evidence of oppression


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
is MLP on the traitor list?


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hasbro probably is


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Derpi is


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Derpi is


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hasbro is on "probation"


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[12-Jun-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Which is insane because he hasn't even used the site


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, Its, it's about keeping people from thinking


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
if his thing is sex, then lakking it means he starts to think


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People just tweet him names and he adds them


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I can tell because he calls it "imageboard" instead of "furry breeding ground"


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
thinking is bad, it means questioning our glorious leaders etc.


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] green_byte#1188

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[12-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the sort of guy that would demand the state drug people to keep them in line.


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I think Brave New World would actually be a utopia for him


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's nothing but constant drugs, sex, and not thinking


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd definitely demand the state provide him a girlfriend


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] green_byte#1188
Everybody is a traitor


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol at these people mad at the Spider-Man game starring Miles


[12-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of _course_ there are people asking why it isn't Peni


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Peni?


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can you even function with sex on your brain like this 24/7


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't.


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Peni Parker, IMO the least interesting alternate universe Spider-Man


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the whole **point**.


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I guess OAG hates almost everything current at this point


[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm I'm surprised paw patrol isn't on the list...

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[12-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>How can you even function with sex on your brain like this 24/7
I'm functional?


[12-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just know Peter, Miles, and Gwen


[12-Jun-20 05:51 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Lol he must've hate GTA games


[12-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spider-Ham is awful, but at least entertaining


[12-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The best part is 2/3rds of those listed aren't american


[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Anime isn't American... how ironic


[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So many UK companies that are traitors to america


[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8


[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] jimm#1439
https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1270859758061436929

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[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] green_byte#1188
Rockstar is on the list

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[12-Jun-20 05:52 AM] green_byte#1188
And the linked tweet

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[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does he hate blacks?


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
R*'s british


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's black himself


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I heard he was from Detroit?


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being traitors to America, TSP


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yes, he is black


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why is he against their own race?


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I know that


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's about being traitors to "society"


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But the list is called that


[12-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, wow.


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's against anything that isn't anime fanservice


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's his whole ideology


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
BLM doesn't even hurt tbh, just a message that's affecting the nation right now


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Boner culture"


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Social justice, even if it benefits him, gets in the way


[12-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, so extreme that he clashes with the anti-porn right


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm lemme check something


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I wonder if he gets horny at yiff


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think he likes furry stuff


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Even ponies?


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably sees it as not as good/controlled by leftists


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The person who standardized "he" for unknown gender was a woman btw.


[12-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is very common for people in an oppressed category to cater to their oppression to get ahead.


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those are often the people that make it to be influential.


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] green_byte#1188
Well..


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] green_byte#1188

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[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is also like the whole unions against socialized medicine thing


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People got mad because "Anime community in Japan has no blacks"


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He fought for his rights and won them so he doesn't want others getting them for free.


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’s


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Realize that unions aren't really focused on worker's rights above all else


[12-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’s Japan


[12-Jun-20 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US union is focused on compromise and keeping people employed


[12-Jun-20 05:57 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Advise: Don't be a friend of OAG if you're black


[12-Jun-20 05:57 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm?


[12-Jun-20 05:57 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean he could be dangerous


[12-Jun-20 05:57 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If meeting at person


[12-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is Trump not a traitor for saying Floyd getting killed was bad?


[12-Jun-20 05:58 AM] green_byte#1188
He seems to have lost his sanity or something


[12-Jun-20 05:58 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
If he has intent to hurt a person


[12-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He _clearly_ doesn't condone riots/protests but thinks the murder was bad


[12-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is Trump not on the list?


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] green_byte#1188
I just looked for that


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Criminals are using the internet right now


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] green_byte#1188
Lol


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
"right now"


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] green_byte#1188

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[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I mean not to show their crimes but hide it


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
They could be a user here in Discord


[12-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Being a traitor to him means


[12-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
saying "Bad things are bad"


[12-Jun-20 06:00 AM] green_byte#1188
..


[12-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, you libshit


[12-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bad things are actually great


[12-Jun-20 06:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Would you believe that there's a user in your platform that did a crime?


[12-Jun-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
how dumb does it get from you


[12-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I mean, I have too


[12-Jun-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think anyone can make the case better for lead paint abatement than Jackie


[12-Jun-20 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
is this jackie


[12-Jun-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[12-Jun-20 06:04 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmmm..


[12-Jun-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I made a tongue in cheek proposal earlier


[12-Jun-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
We should take all those cops who are so eager to be out arresting people


[12-Jun-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
And put them in the NY financial district


[12-Jun-20 06:16 AM] green_byte#1188
hmm i wonder what the differnt types of traitors are for...


[12-Jun-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You really think there's a functional difference when they're just going around slapping a one-word label on everything that doesn't fit their perfect ubermensch worldview?


[12-Jun-20 06:32 AM] jimm#1439
who's OAG


[12-Jun-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's funny, you could probably make a good parody of a game he would want and subtly mock him and he wouldn't get it


[12-Jun-20 06:34 AM] jimm#1439
@SymphonyDawn3


[12-Jun-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's just a guy who runs a blog and doesn't tolerate any view that isn't his own


[12-Jun-20 06:38 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1271174887344705536?s=20

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[12-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/mississippi-woman-charged-with-obscene-communications-after-calling-her-parents-racist-on-facebook/

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A woman in Mississippi was arrested and charged with "obscene communications" after calling her parents racists on Facebook and allegedly posting some of their personal information. She now faces jail time over the incident and alleged fallout.
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[12-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a large group of people who fundamentally do not want political discourse. They just want people to state opinions and never discuss or debate them.


[12-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://twitter.com/YUXLOA/status/1271150506933653504?s=20

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>none of the BLM donations from the main website are going to help black people
>all of it are just getting funneled into Dem super pacs

We've reached laughter levels that human sides cannot handle.
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[12-Jun-20 07:37 AM] jlun2#8758
remember to vote


[12-Jun-20 07:38 AM] jlun2#8758
and not just post memes then go "why is nothing changing"


[12-Jun-20 08:38 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmmm..


[12-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1271215345232039936?s=19

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[12-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're around me and not wearing a mask I should be allowed to use force to get you away from me.


[12-Jun-20 09:26 AM] ononim#8141
I think masks should be mandatory


[12-Jun-20 09:26 AM] ononim#8141
No more identity


[12-Jun-20 09:26 AM] ononim#8141
Society progressed past the need of identity


[12-Jun-20 09:55 AM] ononim#8141
https://franklywrite.com/2020/06/01/a-white-woman-racism-and-a-poodle/

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[12-Jun-20 10:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/trump-onesie-campaign/index.html

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Trump campaign selling 'Baby Lives Matter' onesie on website
Amid unprecedented civil unrest in response to police brutality across the country, President Donald Trump's campaign is offering a onesie for babies on its website with the words "Baby Lives Matter" in the script and style of the "Black Lives Matter" movement logo.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200611161352-trump-baby-lives-matter-onesie-super-tease.jpg


[12-Jun-20 12:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
So he admits he's a baby then?


[12-Jun-20 12:29 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/12/igor-yakovenko-ordinary-racism/

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Igor Yakovenko: Ordinary Racism
Judging by his Facebook avatar and profile, Alexander Volin is an anti-Putinist activist who lives in Moscow and loves the Australian band AC/DC. He’s also a flat-out racist and fascist. &#82…
https://therussianreader.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/volin.jpg


[12-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Imagine if he said same thing about Russia and Chechen republic


[12-Jun-20 01:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/uglypresident-trends-nationwide-after-trump-was-taken-to-task-in-viral-video/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


[12-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/GaltsGultch/status/1271379731347386369

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[12-Jun-20 01:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is literal whitewashing


[12-Jun-20 02:16 PM] Yuri#4154
>WWG1WGA


[12-Jun-20 02:16 PM] Yuri#4154
Jesus


[12-Jun-20 02:17 PM] Yuri#4154
Those morons still believe in the Q shit in the year of Mikey 2020?


[12-Jun-20 02:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jun-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[12-Jun-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-donald-trump-suspendthepres-experiement-post-tweet-flagged-inciting-violence-1510418


[12-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53

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In trade wars of 200 years ago, the pirates were Americans
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[12-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
> The upstart nation was a den of intellectual piracy. One of its top officials urged his countrymen to steal and copy foreign machinery. Across the ocean, a leading industrial power tried in vain to guard its trade secrets from the brash young rival.
> 
> In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the rogue nation was the United States. The official endorsing thievery was Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton. And the main victim was Britain.
> 
> How times have changed.
> 
> Now, the United States accuses China of the very sort of illicit practices that helped America leapfrog European rivals two centuries ago and emerge as an industrial giant.


[12-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
wow, apparently the US stole intellectual property from britain in a similar fashion to how china does the same


[12-Jun-20 05:02 PM] Crow#5457
someone tried to claim that a sea of people (mainly black) stealing from a walmart in security footage "fit the stereotype" without specifying blacks, and I responded "that americans are thieves?" without actually knowing about this


[12-Jun-20 05:02 PM] Crow#5457
I was just talking about land (from native americans) and people (from africa)


[12-Jun-20 05:02 PM] Crow#5457
but turns out the US is built on thievery


[12-Jun-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder if that's why theft is such a big problem in the US


[12-Jun-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
because americans are raised to believe that theft is implicitly acceptable, even if it's not socially acceptable


[12-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
saying that "america is built on slavery" is not the whole picture, the whole picture is that america is built on thievery: stolen land, stolen people, stolen productivity from said stolen people, and stolen intellectual property


[12-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
though the south wouldn't really benefit much from stolen IP, that would mainly benefit the north


[12-Jun-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
intellectual property is a bullshit idea stop defending it

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[12-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] what does motivates people to go GPL (or similar open license)?


[12-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How do I recover invested time, sweat and nerves spent on something?


[12-Jun-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
you get paid upfront or salaried


[12-Jun-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
not for selling units


[12-Jun-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
same idea as crowdfunding a project


[12-Jun-20 05:30 PM] byte[]#2610
you raise funds, pay devs, then the item is delivered for free


[12-Jun-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
and for a software product, this is the only funding model that makes any moral sense to me


[12-Jun-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
because you can copy software for free (regardless of what the author says you may or may not do with it)


[12-Jun-20 05:34 PM] byte[]#2610
a developer might implement DRM, but this is stifling the ideas that made the internet popular in the first place


[12-Jun-20 05:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Subscription based model


[12-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], not defending it, just saying the US is massively hypocritical


[12-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
and also built pretty much everything on the foundations of thievery


[12-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
I'm currently defending that position from 3 rabid trumpanzees in another discord


[12-Jun-20 05:36 PM] byte[]#2610
subscription model makes sense if there is something substantive to offer for the subscription (like personalized support, or something dependent on unitized costs)


[12-Jun-20 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
one of them tried to link shit about how natives went to war against each other, but both articles explicitly said that they didn't actually war to take land or resources


[12-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
wars were basically private and social events between extended families


[12-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
and would always end with some sort of reconciliation funeral thing


[12-Jun-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
let me put in clearer terms


[12-Jun-20 05:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] or makes sense when developer wants manageable grasp on their product.


[12-Jun-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it does not


[12-Jun-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
if the thing you are offering is something that can be effectively distributed by simply _making a copy of it_


[12-Jun-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
there is no reason you should have to pay any more than whatever the marginal cost is for hosting the download


[12-Jun-20 05:39 PM] byte[]#2610
for most places, that's going to be $free


[12-Jun-20 05:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What if it is webbased platform?


[12-Jun-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
what difference does that make


[12-Jun-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
go to derpibooru right now


[12-Jun-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
did you have to pay money to download all the image previews on the frontpage?


[12-Jun-20 05:40 PM] byte[]#2610
no? didn't think so


[12-Jun-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
||*yet*||


[12-Jun-20 05:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hence we are going back to the question of motivation


[12-Jun-20 05:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And to question of IP


[12-Jun-20 05:43 PM] byte[]#2610
there is a big difference between "I made it" and "I own it"


[12-Jun-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
"I own it" is a concept that can apply to anything you have private possession of, like a chair or a book or a file on your computer that you haven't shared with anyone


[12-Jun-20 05:44 PM] ononim#8141
roleplay public beatings of publisher copyright holders in minecraft


[12-Jun-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
once it gets on the web, you still made it, but it doesn't mean you own it anymore


[12-Jun-20 05:44 PM] byte[]#2610
intellectual property concerns the "I own it" part of this discourse


[12-Jun-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
of course the law here muddies things up with copyright and patents and trademarks where it assigns an "effective ownership" to even those properties which are distributed


[12-Jun-20 05:45 PM] byte[]#2610
but that does not mean the person who made the content actually owns any copy besides the ones in their possession


[12-Jun-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], what do you think of the native american concept of not owning the land?


[12-Jun-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
fill me in on what it is


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Corps trying to shift it to "you dont own it, you are leasing it"


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
I think the native americans probably would've had an amazing society if they had been allowed to keep developing for a century longer


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
(which native americans)


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
not guranteed


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
native americans pretty much universally viewed land as a communal resource


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
north american natives


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] ononim#8141
pretty sure eurasian cultures started with non properetarian societies as well


[12-Jun-20 05:47 PM] Crow#5457
south american natives were assholes


[12-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
mainly because of the lack of abundant resources


[12-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Crow#5457
and tougher terrain


[12-Jun-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
can't really draw too much of a direct analogy between that time and now


[12-Jun-20 05:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I can think of "land is not owned, land is leased from the country"


[12-Jun-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
like, yes, in a broad sense, land and property should be communal, but individuals may own material objects for their comfort


[12-Jun-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea of having something that belongs to you and other people rightfully can't take away is pretty important psychologically


[12-Jun-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
(but should be limited to small possessions)


[12-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Crow#5457
well yeah, ownership of huts/buildings belonged to the tribe, but they did own private property (stuff like weapons, horses, etc)


[12-Jun-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
okay, then yes, I think we're largely in agreement


[12-Jun-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
and then the tribes in general agreed that land was not owned by any individual tribe


[12-Jun-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I think it should also be the responsibility of the tribe to determine when any one individual or group of individuals has taken unfair ownership of property and force them to relinquish it


[12-Jun-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
because they all viewed the land as sacred


[12-Jun-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
something that should really apply to modern day landlords...


[12-Jun-20 05:55 PM] Crow#5457
depending on the tribe, some huts were large, communal structures (like what the celts had centuries before), while others were smaller and had 1-2 families in each


[12-Jun-20 05:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I may be wrong, in USSR no one owned anything. Government owned it. People leased property, it was build with state money.


[12-Jun-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
USSR's downfall was scale


[12-Jun-20 05:56 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, stalin poisoning everything off the get-go didn't help either


[12-Jun-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
once a commune gets bigger than a certain size it just becomes too easy to corrupt absolutely because there's no way for everyone to be represented


[12-Jun-20 05:57 PM] Crow#5457
the solution to that problem seems to be a bunch of smaller "communes" (whether they're guilds, unions, etc) who each have a representative sent to a larger, decentralized government


[12-Jun-20 05:57 PM] Crow#5457
like revolutionary catalonia


[12-Jun-20 05:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Once commune gets 'leaders', it stops being commune


[12-Jun-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
I said representatives, not leaders


[12-Jun-20 05:58 PM] Crow#5457
you can have representatives that represent you without actually leading you


[12-Jun-20 05:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exactly.


[12-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But once commune gets "everyone equal, but some are more equal than others", it is not a commune anymore

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[12-Jun-20 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that's why you abolish the commodity form my fellas


[12-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And to byte's point, collection of individuals turn into mass. It is like small and big companies. In respect of employees and customers.


[12-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We have seen this many times.


[12-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
http://nebraskastudies.org/1850-1874/native-american-settlers/conflict-among-the-tribes/

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Conflict Among the Tribes
           ...


[12-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.lagrange.edu/resources/pdf/citations08/CULTURALASPECTSOFWARFARE.pdf


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
btw, both the studies that somehow "disproved" that natives didn't steal land from each other that the maga hats linked me


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
interesting reads


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
wait no, the first one wasn't


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
it was the second one that was an interesting read


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
another important point is that communal representation has to be _random_


[12-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
the first one wasn't applicable


[12-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
because it was well after the colonists arrived and fucked everything up


[12-Jun-20 06:06 PM] Crow#5457
the best part was how the trumpanzees started insisting I was "grasping at straws", even though the article they linked explicitly said that tribes didn't fight for ownership of land


[12-Jun-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sure natives must have fought each other, but... did any of them employ industrial mechanisms of material exploitation and genocide against other tribes


[12-Jun-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't really think they did


[12-Jun-20 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The European colonizers, otoh, did


[12-Jun-20 06:09 PM] wren#0114
flex'd


[12-Jun-20 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's why the second article is so interesting


[12-Jun-20 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
> Twentieth century historians tended to reject these earlier notions and began to concentrate on the economic factors of warfare. Historians such as George T. Hunt blame the European introduction of economic competition brought on by the fur trade. He concluded that inter-tribal wars began as private and social enterprises that, after the introduction of European trade, created new rivalries and these wars assumed an entirely different aspect.


[12-Jun-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr proto-capitalism introduced war for resources to north america


[12-Jun-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, after all the Iroquois only adopted a policy of territorial expansion to get a monopoly on the beaver pelt trade


[12-Jun-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[12-Jun-20 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's how the Erie tribes of Ohio got wiped out iirc


[12-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
apparently a dude in the server I was mocking the trumpanzees on about their lack of understanding about native american history says he regularly trolls trump-supporting places like "reopen california" with stuff supporting trump becoming dictator, and he's always a little surprised when only about 50% of people support that idea


[12-Jun-20 06:22 PM] Crow#5457
he said that he made a post which directly compared trump to hitler (by writing an essay about giving trump emergency powers and then posting a picture of the reichstag), and only one, completely ignored person pointed out that he was making a direct reference to trump as hitler and called it out as a trollpost


[12-Jun-20 06:23 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"lmao 😂 yeah I totally agree 😂 lol But seriously that's actually a bad idea and I don't agree with that."


[12-Jun-20 06:23 PM] Crow#5457
it apparently got 200+ score before it got deleted by mods


[12-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Crow#5457
he claims to be a former trump supporter (as in, he stopped supporting trump like 3 months into his presidency), and he regularly destroys the same fools that were going bananas over me calling the US a country built on thievery


[12-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Perhaps they're also trolling, but they feel that his trolling goes too far :ponythinking:


[12-Jun-20 06:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
But they don't want to call him out because that would out themselves? Hmm.


[12-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/12/seattle-protests-autonomous-zone-315149

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Seattle's mayor and police chief diverge on autonomous zone
The mixed messages from Mayor Jenny Durkan and Police Chief Carmen Best come amid a barrage of tweets from President Donald Trump blasting the city’s response to what he says is an “anarchist takeover.”
https://static.politico.com/89/11/986af3504db391cd970c701b519e/200612-durkan-best-ap-773.jpg


[12-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
> But Seattle’s police chief is growing increasingly exasperated at the occupation of a police precinct and the hindrance of law enforcement efforts in the several blocks-wide “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.”


[12-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
piggy's mad


[12-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVzhJ0aG84

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Arun Films Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVzhJ0aG84
Big, angry pig making funny noises
When a pig just wants to be left alone.

Actually, old timer, Matilda is the sweetest pig that sounds a bit like a T-Rex.  And just like every other T-Rex pig she loves her cookies and popcorn.

Filmed at Pig Harmony in California.

To learn more about Matilda or Pot-Bellied P...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LRVzhJ0aG84/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Jun-20 06:37 PM] wren#0114
>self emoji


[12-Jun-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
(the funny thing is that I'm pretty sure that pig's making happy noises)


[12-Jun-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I wish I had the motive to troll like that


[12-Jun-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
you mean motivation? or that you just don't feel the need to troll in such a deceptive way?


[12-Jun-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
motivation, yes


[12-Jun-20 07:09 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/ifKZuBXcoDk?t=29

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Top U.S. health officials are worried the massive in-person demonstrations could be a fertile breeding ground for excessive force that may stretch the nation’s healthcare system to its limits. 

Listen to The Topical: https://link.chtbl.com/TheTopical

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[12-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
British authors HATED America in its early days.


[12-Jun-20 07:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the literary classics from the period are so well known in the US now because there was no shitty licensing cost to distribute them widely.


[12-Jun-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/QVR3jN6

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Idolatry tends to be frowned upon.
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[12-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ha


[12-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of how people think Muslims are basically vampires or something


[12-Jun-20 07:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pork is not halal.


[12-Jun-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
what is happening with random imgur previews not working recently


[12-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/vbJuD52

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[12-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457

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[12-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457

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[12-Jun-20 07:29 PM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[12-Jun-20 07:29 PM] green_byte#1188
That's an interesting thing to look for NASCAR.


[12-Jun-20 07:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> A lot of the literary classics from the period are so well known in the US now
I feel like I lived under a rock
> because there was no shitty licensing cost to distribute them widely.
I wonder would some day, fan works be more well known than the original due to this


[12-Jun-20 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jun-20 07:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well he's consistent in a way, he's just saying he doesn't love it.


[12-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Pretty#9306
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-deadliest-day-violence-murder-history-police-crime

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18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in ...
‘We’ve never seen anything like it at all,’ said Max Kapustin, the senior research director at the University of Chicago Crime Lab.
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[12-Jun-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1271506292226633728?s=20

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Former officer charged with killing George Floyd could receive over $1 million in pension benefits, even if convicted https://t.co/qAIKoNiD6g
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[12-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alaska-hunting/trump-administration-ends-ban-on-killing-alaska-bear-cubs-wolf-pups-idUSKBN23G33J

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Trump administration ends ban on killing Alaska bear cubs, wolf pups
The Trump administration on Tuesday overturned an Obama-era rule that barred hunters in Alaska national preserves from baiting bear traps or killing denning bear cubs and wolf pups or other practices that have been condemned by environmental and wildlife protection groups.Unde...
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[12-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
trump is literally a disney villain holy shit


[12-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Yuri#4154
When is a princess gonna show up and beat him?


[12-Jun-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
> Former officer charged with killing George Floyd could receive over $1 million in pension benefits, even if convicted
then the boomers go tell millenials "why dont you get a real job with pensions hur hur hur"


[12-Jun-20 08:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@Yuri never. they're too busy counting their bribe money


[12-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Yuri#4154
:cryign:


[12-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Yuri#4154
I don't like this Disney movie


[12-Jun-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is apretty terrible disney movie


[12-Jun-20 08:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This Disney movie is a shameless cash grab by the mouse.


[12-Jun-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow how many jobs does that save


[12-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Yuri Live-action Lion King remake isn't your taste? That thing in theaters was just a decoy to make you think that real life wasn't a movie.


[12-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Yuri#4154
This movie has too many villains and almost no heroes


[12-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Yuri#4154
0/10 would not recommend


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't like the 99 twist villains and 200 regular ones?


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
> “The Trump administration has shockingly reached a new low in its treatment of wildlife. Allowing the killing of bear cubs and wolf pups in their dens is barbaric and inhumane.
there was that fanfic tempest got revenge on her attacker shooting bear inside cave


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Surely the anti-heros help.


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
I want to see a pic of that now


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Trump got killed by a bear in Minecraft and he never got over it


[12-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minecraft polar bears only attack when you're near their cubs...


[12-Jun-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
"it's my right to be near their cubs. AMERICA"


[12-Jun-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. hunters are mostly white male boomers
edit <https://www.outdoorlife.com/why-we-are-losing-hunters-and-how-to-fix-it/>
holy shit it is
> Hunters have historically been white men; today, more than 90 percent of hunters are Caucasian, and more than 70 percent are male.


[12-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, there's people saying it's okay for police to arrest people after the police push one of their cars into a crowd of people and people start attacking the car


[12-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Some people deepthroat the boot so hard the laces are dangling out of their ass


[12-Jun-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people deep throat the boot so hard, the person wearing the boot is now wearing them as underwear


[12-Jun-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/zoom-hong-kong-china-controversy-1.5605792
rip


[12-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Raptorshy#6268
>Zoom's 'ray of hope' for Hong Kong activists darkened by account suspensions


[12-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-police-caught-tape-lounging-making-popcorn-congressman-s-office-n1230191

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Chicago police caught on tape 'lounging,' making popcorn in congres...
Around 13 officers entered the office of U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush at differing times as nearby businesses were targeted by looters, Mayor Lori Lightfoot said.
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[12-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[12-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
the police are acting like looters in chicago


[12-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
worse yet, they're literally ignoring looting going on


[12-Jun-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
>business getting looted next door
i sleep
>protestors outside demanding rights
REAL SHIT


[12-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
lol it's exactly what I've been saying this whole time


[12-Jun-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rcmp-chief-allan-adam-1.5608472
> RCMP dashcam footage of the March arrest of Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam shows an arriving officer jump-tackling the chief to the ground without warning, punching him in the head and putting him in a chokehold.
> In the nearly 12-minute video obtained by CBC News, an agitated Adam swears repeatedly at the police officers, accuses the RCMP of harassing him and removes his jacket while appearing ready to fight one of the officers after RCMP pulled behind his idling truck outside a Fort McMurray, Alta., casino early in the morning of March 10.
> RCMP had noticed Adam's licence plate had expired.


[12-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone

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Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ or the Zone), also known as Free Capitol Hill, is a self-declared autonomous zone in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, Washington. The Zone, covering approximately six city blocks, was established on June 8, 2020, after Capitol Hi...


[12-Jun-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
virgin seattle VS chaz free capitol hill


[12-Jun-20 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/pTvewQW.jpg

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Update from The Peoples Garden
https://i.imgur.com/pTvewQW.jpg


[12-Jun-20 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
the CHAZ is so funny


[12-Jun-20 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
it's certainly an entertaining way of keeping attention on the issue


[12-Jun-20 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/12/21289495/trump-fox-news-chokehold-lincoln

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Trump: "The concept of chokehold sounds so innocent, so perfect"
Trump’s new Fox interview shows why he’s so terribly suited to our moment.
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[12-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[12-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Quote from another server, discussing presidents who owned slaves and how to deal with their history (and statues)


[12-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I'm pretty sure a President's slaves lived better lives than the average free black man of the same time period"


[12-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-12/french-police-demand-government-support-after-chokehold-ban

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Now it's police protesting in France, angry over chokehold ban
French police protest what they see as the government's lack of support after new limits on their arrest practices, including a ban on chokeholds.
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[12-Jun-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
not surprised they all look boomer + mostly men


[12-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember


[12-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
even in places where police are held to higher standards and way less militarized


[12-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
ACAB


[12-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
They should not be allowed to touch your nekk.


[12-Jun-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
never


[12-Jun-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
unless it's in the bedroom and you're into that


[12-Jun-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
don't date cops


[12-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
not even french cops?


[12-Jun-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[12-Jun-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Alex Azar fucked over trans people


[12-Jun-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/06/12/hhs-finalizes-rule-section-1557-protecting-civil-rights-healthcare.html

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HHS Finalizes Rule on Section 1557 Protecting Civil Rights in Healt...
Today, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) finalized a rule under Section 1557 of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that maintains vigorous enforcement of federal civil rights laws on the basis of race, color, national origin, disability, age, and sex, and resto...
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[12-Jun-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
> Under the final rule, HHS eliminates certain provisions of the 2016 Rule that exceeded the scope of the authority delegated by Congress in Section 1557. HHS will enforce Section 1557 by returning to the government’s interpretation of sex discrimination according to the plain meaning of the word “sex” as male or female and as determined by biology.


[12-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Sally Moon#4922

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[12-Jun-20 11:51 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Even Dr. Suess knows Trump is a Grinch


[13-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/DVchDPQ

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I think it’s time we rewatched some movies
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[13-Jun-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lincoln-did-good-black-community-end-result-questionable-2020-6

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Trump says Abraham Lincoln 'did good' for the Black community but t...
"Well, we are free, Mr. President, so I think he did pretty well," Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner said of Lincoln, who ended slavery.
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[13-Jun-20 01:39 AM] illumnious#7938
dafuq


[13-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Trump Trumped again


[13-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
:Rumpclown:


[13-Jun-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Meanwhile in the Confederate Sympathizer's lunch table:


[13-Jun-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[13-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like


[13-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the argument here lol


[13-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Honahue#0656
Vader's mistake was killing fictional kids


[13-Jun-20 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
fake bad guy is as bad as real bad guy that killed real people.

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[13-Jun-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, just...


[13-Jun-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If someone's at this level of argumentative capacity


[13-Jun-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They'd be better off put down tbh


[13-Jun-20 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/outliveddixie/status/1271487433150918657?s=21

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Things That Lasted Longer Than the Confederacy (@OutlivedDixie)
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My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic lasted longer than the Confederacy
Retweets
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[13-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lol


[13-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:yay:


[13-Jun-20 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
"Heritage, not hate" I say before throwing a molotov at Hasbro hq while holding a banner with Faust depicted in byzantine style


[13-Jun-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/elianora/status/1271545693992300551

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Elianora Says Black Lives Matter (@Elianora)
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OK this is beautiful
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[13-Jun-20 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
👮‍♂️ shoot that dog.


[13-Jun-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610

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[13-Jun-20 02:40 AM] jlun2#8758
0 replies & 101k likes :ponythinking:


[13-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Wait... where's the thread?

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[13-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument is that big fukkoff statues in the middle of public spaces are the same thing as children's toys.


[13-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
OH YOU'VE GOT A KYLO REN DOLL????? WELL THAT'S LIKE PUTTING HIM TOWERING OVER ALL THE PEOPLE HE WOULD MURDER IN A HEARTBEAT HURR DE DUUUURR


[13-Jun-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/afl-cio-blasts-facebook-over-software-would-limit-union-drives-2020-6

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Largest union federation in the US demands apology from Mark Zucker...
"Employers censoring their employees' speech about unionizing is illegal," AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a June 12 statement.
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[13-Jun-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-led-committee-backs-renaming-bases-honor-confederates-setting-clash-n1230066

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GOP-led committee backs renaming bases that honor Confederates, set...
The president said Wednesday that he would “not even consider” renaming Army bases that honor Confederate leaders.
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[13-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
why would you name military bases after the leaders of the army you fought against


[13-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no Fort Ho Chi Minh


[13-Jun-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they needed an excuse to fly their racism and they chose the guise of honoring history to do it


[13-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wow, they put it in the NDAA


[13-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump can't veto the NDAA, it would make him look weak as fukk.


[13-Jun-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cue Trump attempting to veto it because it defied him


[13-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Zucc and his shit


[13-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How about you just run a fair campaign against unionization?


[13-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[13-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"employees “do not have a statutory right to use employers’ email and other information-technology (IT) resources to engage in non-work-related communications.”  “Rather, employers have the right to control the use of their equipment, including their email and other IT systems, and they may lawfully exercise that right to restrict the uses to which those systems are put, provided that in doing so, they do not discriminate”


[13-Jun-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the penalty is a fine, then zuckerburg probably just considers it an entree fee to do as he pleases


[13-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no teeth to any of these violations


[13-Jun-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/read-trump-response-why-george-floyd-protesters-demonstrating-fox-news-2020-6

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Read Trump's exact response when he was asked what people protestin...
Trump gave a long, rambling answer in which he suggested that many people are protesting because they're "following the crowd."
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[13-Jun-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "Protesters for different reasons. You're protesting also because, you know, they just didn't know. I've watch — I watched very closely. Why are you here? They really weren't able to say, but they were there for a reason, perhaps.
> 
> "But a lot of them really were there because they're following the crowd. A lot of them were there because what we witnessed was a terrible thing. What we saw was a terrible thing. And we've seen it over the years. We haven't, you know, this was one horrible example, but you've seen other terrible examples. You know that better than anybody who would know it. And I know it. I've seen it, too. I've seen it before I was president. I've seen it. I think it's a shame. I think it's a disgrace. And it's got to stop.
> 
> "At the same time, you also know that we have incredible people in law enforcement that we have to cherish them and take care of them. And we can't let something like this, we have a bad apple go out and, you know, destroy the image of a whole of millions of people that take really good care of us. And then you have a movement where they say, let's not have a police department. And you say, where are these people coming from?"

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[13-Jun-20 04:08 AM] AaronMk#4499
> if the penalty is a fine, then zuckerburg probably just considers it an entree fee to do as he pleases
@prism stryder(intexda) 

Fines are just the rich man's ability to buy the privledge to do a crime anyways. So however much they can nail him for on anything doesn't matter.


[13-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fines should be by percent of income.


[13-Jun-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-police-will-no-longer-respond-non-criminal-calls-2020-6

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Unarmed professionals will now respond to non-criminal police calls...
"San Francisco has made progress reforming our police department, but we know that we still have significant work to do," Mayor London Breed said.
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[13-Jun-20 05:02 AM] jlun2#8758
> Fines should be by percent of income.
they're going to be like "fine zuck 0.001% income" then go smug & say "that's what you people want"


[13-Jun-20 05:06 AM] jimm#1439
for some reason, american unions are exploitive and parasitic compared to unions in europe that just protect workers and get out of the way, as european commenters on sites have been saying
american unions will do things like making it so programmers can't move their own monitor to another desk or plug anything in because a union guy has to get paid to do it. I'd steer far clear of any company with unions getting in the way of day to day operations like that myself.
and I'll never forget the despicible leeches that extorted the vendors at bronycon for the privilege to move their own stuff that had to be pushed with a dolly/cart to their own booths - vendors had to pay the union thugs to do it or they weren't allowed to do it. no better than the mafia, who were at least honest about what they were


[13-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
European unions hav political power to deal with.


[13-Jun-20 05:07 AM] jimm#1439
infuriating that those honest vendors were trying to make a living giving to the world and all these union "workers" ever did was take


[13-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
American unions end things at the boss.


[13-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't remember which, but there's a nordic or scandinavian country where traffic fines are proportional to income


[13-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So some guy in an audi getting a speeding ticket might have to pay 5k euro


[13-Jun-20 05:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Join the IWW. Join the Wobblies. Join today. Become a Industrial Unionist. Join the IWW. One big union. BW O R L D  D O M I N A T I O N


[13-Jun-20 05:29 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-changes-course-and-wont-hold-tulsa-rally-on-juneteenth-and-claims-over-200000-want-to-attend

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Trump changes course and won’t hold Tulsa rally on Juneteenth — and...
President Donald Trump reversed course for one of the first times in his presidency with a late-night announcement on Twitter on Friday. After 11 p.m. in New Jersey, where he is staying at his Bedminster resort, Trump announced he would change the date of his first post-corona...
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[13-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Unions getting in the way of day to day stuff"


[13-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey, if you're a programmer, it isn't your job to move your office around


[13-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the job of someone else and you shouldn't take it from them


[13-Jun-20 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/WBTV_News/status/1271642050023370752?s=20

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Louisiana's governor signed a bill into law that makes it a crime to throw water on members of law enforcement. https://t.co/dxva2xeTZi
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[13-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Police officer is on fire


[13-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess they die then?


[13-Jun-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jun-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
@Damaged


[13-Jun-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
> A dingo ate my tendy!


[13-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Damaged#9999
*boing boing boing*


[13-Jun-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
stonks


[13-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That kangaroo lookin' pretty thicc tho ngl


[13-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Crow#5457
does that mean that the police are going to start shooting clouds for raining on them?


[13-Jun-20 07:04 AM] jimm#1439
> That's the job of someone else and you shouldn't take it from them
joking or serious?


[13-Jun-20 07:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://kjzz.org/content/1591224/audit-instead-migrant-care-border-patrol-spent-millions-equipment

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Audit: Instead Of Migrant Care, Border Patrol Spent Millions On Equ...
Customs and Border Protection used money intended for food and medicine for immigrants in custody on ATVs, dirt bikes, and speaker systems, a new audit has found. CBP received $112 million in emergency funds that was meant to be used on migrants during last year’s surge of asy...
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[13-Jun-20 07:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've seen some people trying to play devil's advocate and say that they had a different source of funding available to pull from for these "toys" and that the solution here is just to cook the books so the money's coming from *that* pot instead but the problem with that is...first of all, that's still illegal, and second of all, *they still didn't spend money on food and medicine for migrant care*


[13-Jun-20 07:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/yw8pVfh

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History
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[13-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:zeeb: :wat:


[13-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, there were enuff blakks in some Southern states during reconstruction that they started to outvote whites in many areas. The KKK slaughtered the by the thousands, overthrew the state gov'ts, then stuffed the ballot boxes, compromising the presidential election to the point that the electoral college had to be ignored and then to keep from having to do Civil War 2, the North decided to just let the South oppress blakks.


[13-Jun-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
should've gone with civil war 2 tbh


[13-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
can probably blame the liberals for "compromising" again


[13-Jun-20 09:20 AM] jlun2#8758
America sounds horrific for nonwhites


[13-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Midknight#9798
So instead of water they'll use canola oil


[13-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Synfag#9241
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[13-Jun-20 12:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How dare you say we, the Japanese, who historically eliminated an indigenous culture and are also using this as an example of how Japanese are better than those filthy Gaijin, are racist


[13-Jun-20 12:59 PM] Synfag#9241
wait till you read about Unit 731


[13-Jun-20 01:01 PM] Synfag#9241
They don't discriminate. ||They experimented on every race they can capture.||


[13-Jun-20 01:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Blinded by the rising sun setting. 2 was not enough. ☢️


[13-Jun-20 01:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Synfag casual reminder that a handful of 4chan orientalists or social media boomers are not representative of the whole of Japanese society


[13-Jun-20 01:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They even had riots in defense of a number of Kurdish migrants who got through police violence a while ago


[13-Jun-20 01:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Frankly this bullshit about a Japanese fascist utopia has to end. It's a capitalist hellscape and any prole's nightmare


[13-Jun-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/AXBxkGZC7SIO6a5bWqgbDOg

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Tulsa police major warns of coming law enforcement exodus: 'Every o...
Tulsa, Okla. police Maj. Travis Yates told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Friday that he is "extremely concerned" for the future of law enforcement amid ongoing backlash following the death of George Floyd and the rise of the "defund the police" movement.
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[13-Jun-20 01:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man i kinda forgot how Japanese civil society is somewhat similar to that of the US


[13-Jun-20 01:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only that the boomers are somewhat less prone to swearing


[13-Jun-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502564-trump-says-hell-leave-white-house-peacefully-if-biden-wins

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Trump says he'll leave White House peacefully if Biden wins
President Trump said he’ll leave the White House peacefully if he loses this November’s presidential election, addressing concerns he would try to hold onto power after a defeat.
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[13-Jun-20 02:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Only that the boomers are somewhat less prone to swearing
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

When the boomers are so old that they refuse to any any new technology because they all had to wake up at 3 AM anyways to get to work to do the most mundane and easily automated shit to prep for the day before 8 AM. And they call it good for you


[13-Jun-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Back in my day we were willing to take jobs for a dollar a day and we were fine!" -actual thing my dad has said to me


[13-Jun-20 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/502530-ag-secretary-orders-environmental-rollbacks-for-forest-service

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Ag secretary orders environmental rollbacks for Forest Service
U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue on Friday ordered the U.S.
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[13-Jun-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
:fghjkl:


[13-Jun-20 05:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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oh boy
what just happened





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[13-Jun-20 06:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRkJPuvVjw

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Asheville PD tearing down Autonomous Zone barricade - 6/12/2020
Asheville Police Department tearing down a first attempt at creating an autonomous zone. #Asheville #AshevilleNC #WNC #CHAZ #AutonomousZone #SeattleAutonomousZone #BLM #GeorgeFloyd
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/czRkJPuvVjw/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Jun-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was an attempt to set up an autonomous zone in asheville NC


[13-Jun-20 07:06 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) did he also insist he doesnt need to anymore when you ask him "why dont you try living a dollar a day now?"


[13-Jun-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt bother asking follow up questions, it would have gone nowhere


[13-Jun-20 07:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jun-20 07:12 PM] jlun2#8758
> Wake up & complain on social media

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[13-Jun-20 07:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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4️⃣7️⃣5️⃣ East Meadow, NY: a police officer abruptly stops walking so a protestor walking behind him will bump into him, so the other police can attack and arrest him

At least 3 officers pin him down, with one keeping a knee on his neck

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[13-Jun-20 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Wake Up


[13-Jun-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GRAB A BRUSH AND PUT SOME LITTLE MAKEUP


[13-Jun-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
HIDE THE SCARS TO FADE AWAY THE SHAKEUP


[13-Jun-20 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
SOAD :twismug:


[13-Jun-20 08:21 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 >>2112909


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[13-Jun-20 08:21 PM] jlun2#8758
then she becomes the joker


[13-Jun-20 08:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Do you want to know how I got these scars?


[13-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[13-Jun-20 08:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well, Batman it all depends on which universe this is! Hahahaha!


[13-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Tried eating corn on the cob using knives instead of those little pokey thingies


[13-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or just use your hands to hold it


[13-Jun-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
corn on the cob is always unpleasant to eat


[13-Jun-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I just take the minute or two needed to cut it off and then eat it with a fork


[13-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:trixdisgust:


[13-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
:trixdisgust:


[13-Jun-20 08:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine not eating the corn AND the cob


[13-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't like corn.

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[13-Jun-20 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Respectable opinion


[13-Jun-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Corn is a thing you have to add things too or it's boring.


[13-Jun-20 08:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unless it's corn tortillas then miss me with that shit


[13-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has a weird aftertaste for me that I don't like.


[13-Jun-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Me too bro


[13-Jun-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck corn


[13-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[13-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
So much about conservatives is just sex.


[13-Jun-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
are they incel @Nebbie


[13-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Conservatives of course make it about sex, it's more about segments of what people perceived to be the left ostracizing/demeaning them


[13-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly a more accurate title is "Your body shaming of men is one reason we have Donald Trump"


[13-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about reproduction.


[13-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of women choosing their mates is abhorrent to them.


[13-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care about Epstein.


[13-Jun-20 09:10 PM] jlun2#8758
I await the self clone future


[13-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
They would praise him if they knew but liberals didn't.


[13-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why trans rights are the current battlefield being fought next to racism.


[13-Jun-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
If one's sex no longer matters, then sexism is gone and women cannot even be *indirectly* put down.


[13-Jun-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, conservatives *want* a child rapist in office, @Itsthinking


[13-Jun-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
that is their ideal representative.


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie if they only care about reproduction, are they fine with artificial wombs that just keep spitting out babies?


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want him to say that women can't really choose, we will only punish blakk/poor people who rape little girls, and blakk little girls will be raped.


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, artificial wombs would mean less social control.


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
ie. cloning


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[13-Jun-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women would rise up against them.


[13-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just about opressing women to reproduce and spread their ideas vertically, it's about using the latter to cause the former to maintain control of society.


[13-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Women ultimately control what children and thus what the next generation believes.


[13-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
If women are free, the next generation won't be conservative.


[13-Jun-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
> next generation won't be conservative
:wheeze: 
but sure


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's already happening.


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
There didn't used to be an age split for conservative/liberals and for party.


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a product of the last 40 years.


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Zoomers are even more liberal than Millennials


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and there's no reason to suspect the next generation won't be more liberal still.


[13-Jun-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm just saying that maybe some people who voted for Obama twice didn't like being called "neckbeards" nonstop from 2012-2016


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
These racists running around, it's very hard to find any below 20


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what it's about Its.


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama to Trump voters statistically only cared about race


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I hope so; reading about poland/russia becoming super conservative worries me


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
They saw racial tensions increase and slowly became less okay with a blakk president.


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they voted for Trump.


[13-Jun-20 09:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
All the other stuff is peanuts.


[13-Jun-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having a blakk president made many older people more racist.


[13-Jun-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Under Obama, white control of prisons was threatened.


[13-Jun-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was the biggest threat to modern pseudo-slavery in history.


[13-Jun-20 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think people don't talk about race out of fear of getting cancelled


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
hahahhahah


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's talk about Obama and prisons and race for a moment.


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
So drug laws written by Nixon *et al.* were all about making blakk drugs punished harder, to disrupt civil rights meetings


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many in federal prison for such laws are blakk


[13-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obama started letting them out.


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
He used his power of pardon to end sentences early for nonviolent offenders (read: blakk people)


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
do they still let people out for weed crimes now that its legal


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not necessarily.


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Relatedly


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
rrip


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/502602-former-fbi-director-william-sessions-dies-at-age-90

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Former FBI Director William Sessions dies at age 90
Former FBI Director William Sessions died Friday in San Antonio, Texas, at age 90.Sessions is believed to have died of natural causes unrelated to the coronavirus, his daughter told several media outlets.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/sessionswilliam_06132020_gettyimages.jpg


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Winners don't use drugs


[13-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, he did this toward the end of his time as president


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was the culmination of his "you won't write laws, so I'll write EOs" idea


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what conservatives said?


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Trayvon could have been my son" I think scared a lot of racists


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Obama let out CRIMINALS onto our STREETS"


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a dogwhistle, Its


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
"criminals" means "niggers"


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Direct, 1:1


[13-Jun-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a real article, <https://thefederalist.com/2017/09/19/refusal-date-conservatives-one-reason-donald-trump/>


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not many black people making meth


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
before I click that & lose brain cells, is it some incel ramblings @Teaspoon
if so im not touching that but ty


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives when asked what they mean about "criminals" will go on about these insane rapist-murderers that make BTK look like nothing


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though it's getting up there


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they are really saying is what they think blakk people are.


[13-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
They literally believe that all blakk people are nothing but animals in human form that want to rape and murder.


[13-Jun-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie ||That's how I think of men tbh||
am male btw


[13-Jun-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, it was non-violent offenders only, yet when pressed, conservatives go on about violence.


[13-Jun-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They really just think that blakks should be in jail for life for being blakk.


[13-Jun-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is why many whites switched from Obama to Trump, Its.


[13-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
They saw that this supposedly whitened blakk guy was letting blakks actually participate in society.


[13-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie. do you have any proof that's exactly what they think?
as i find that hard to believe


[13-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's quite a broad assertion you are making


[13-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

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A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
Hint: It has to do with race.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WXPH2k5aJNQcoMgYFWHF-rk9rRc=/0x371:5184x3085/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13280819/522495782.jpg.jpg


[13-Jun-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
they look quite young (sadly)


[13-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is of course harder to prove what conservatives believe, we can only go on their dogwhistles https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/pardon-me-obamas-right-clemency-non-violent-drug-offenders

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Pardon Me, but Obama's Right on Clemency for Non-Violent Drug Offen...
I’ve never before felt compelled to defend President Obama on a sweeping use of executive power, but he’s on firm legal ground here.
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/styles/optimized/public/default-social-images/cato-commentary.jpg?itok=Y4RL8F2l


[13-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
However, https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

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Report: Nixon's war on drugs targeted black people
One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150727062530-richard-nixon-1974-super-tease.jpg


[13-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you think the war on drugs isn't about race, you're full of shit, **period**.


[13-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
meaning you have no irrefutable proof that they think of them like that.


[13-Jun-20 09:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Ban plant.
20+ years for anyone found with plant.


[13-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
just what you are reading between the lines


[13-Jun-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
think of it like RICO


[13-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you know the war on drugs was just as much targeted on hippies as it was any other group


[13-Jun-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
if you listen to the advisor's report, hippies were one of the two main target populations


[13-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hippies were dangerous because they could threaten the control on the media about the war, as well as racial policy.


[13-Jun-20 09:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The government had to put drugs into communities they didn't like.


[13-Jun-20 09:29 PM] byte[]#2610
the CIA is the biggest drug dealer of all time


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Want to win Vietnam so badly?


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just nuke Hanoi, you wimp


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't want to win Vietnam


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Vietnam as a war was designed to keep America unified and keep the Soviets busy.


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DYK there are boomers to this day that still hate Jane Fonda because she went to North Vietnam


[13-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Winning was an optional bonus.


[13-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> keep America unified
so...are they going to try again


[13-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's too late for a war with Iran now.


[13-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Too close to the election.


[13-Jun-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the time the evidence is fabricated and "discovered", the votes would already be cast.


[13-Jun-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
They might've been planning it, but the pandemic completely threw them off.


[13-Jun-20 09:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Iran has been doing nothing but preparing for it since 1979


[13-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, white people could escape the draft easily. Blakk people couldn't.


[13-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
This made Vietnam a convenient way to further racial divisions.


[13-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv blakk people PTSD and various physical injuries *en masse* and then deny them benefits afterwards.


[13-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
or maybe it was just a more politically expedient way to remove them from society


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nah too many of them return for that.


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
instead of something like bringing them back with PTSD


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, many poor whites were sent too


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just surprised despite all this they still failed


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
but when they returned home, they were given more support.


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
undoubtedly they did return with PTSD but it doesn't seem like the government's intent


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Failed at what?


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
they just wanted poor people to die


[13-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
They've been ridiculously successful at maintaining racial divisions over 150 years after the civil war.


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The confederacy basically won.


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
thought it was slowly declining rip


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Only now as their statues are being toppled is everything slipping.


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Slowly, yes.


[13-Jun-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
But if conservatives didn't fight, racial divisions would've ended in the 1940s.


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
[X]


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine stretching out principles directly at odds with your nation's founding principles a full century longer.


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Think about it, byte


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reconstruction had blakk people elected to office


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it works if you arbitrarily redefine conservative to mean whatever you want


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
in the 1860s


[13-Jun-20 09:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, it's racist whites


[13-Jun-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
(who are a subset of conservatives)


[13-Jun-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
there are plenty of racist people who want gay rights equality of income etc. but not equality for blacks


[13-Jun-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
they lean much more liberal than conservative


[13-Jun-20 09:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Black man scary.


[13-Jun-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you misunderstand what I look at for the split


[13-Jun-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
I think your black and white categorization just fucking sucks


[13-Jun-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative refers to people who view things in terms of a social hierarchy


[13-Jun-20 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
for a lot of people even in black communities the darker you are you will be treated differently.


[13-Jun-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything to them is about what people "deserve", a "natural order", and "societ" means a shared set of values.


[13-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
You will find that while racists can exist outside of this, things fall apart pretty fast when it comes time to actuall build society to screw over blakks.


[13-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause to go outside of it means that society *can't be built* to preserve a hierarchy with blakks on the bottom.


[13-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
For instance, my mom is a racist liberal, but what you see in practice is she gets mad at Republicans.


[13-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
She wants racism on an individual level, she hates it when society is built for it because it makes things unfair and screws over people like her too.


[13-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
To adopt a liberal worldview means by necessity leaving most of your racism at the door when it comes time for politics.


[13-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/502605-fox-news-slammed-for-altering-images-of-protests-in-seattle-disgraceful

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Photojournalist experts criticize Fox News for altering images of p...
Photojournalist experts lambasted Fox News Friday for publishing alleged photoshopped pictures of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) that was created this week by Black Lives Matter (BLM) protestors.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_seattlepd_61020getty_0.jpg


[13-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fox just straight up Photoshopped a bunch of pictures together to make things look really bad


[13-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/06122020_Fox05_181017-1020x544.jpg

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[13-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
“We have replaced our photo illustration with the clearly delineated images of a gunman and a shattered storefront, both of which were taken this week in Seattle’s autonomous zone.”


[13-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Clearly delineated"


[13-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] did you read the thing about the Tulsa bombing and how the KKK won that was posted here last nite?


[13-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, https://weeklysift.com/2014/08/11/not-a-tea-party-a-confederate-party/

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Not a Tea Party, a Confederate Party
Tea Partiers say you don’t understand them because you don’t understand American history. That’s probably true, but not in the way they want you to think. Late in 2012, I came out…
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[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tea Party was never about taxes


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was about Obama being black


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, there were blakk Republican Senators in the 1860s.


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
From the South.


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blakks were outvoting whites.


[13-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
The KKK took up arms and murdered them.


[13-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Southern states stuffed their ballot boxes so hard that some had votes outnumbering people.


[13-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Compromising the presidential election.


[13-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The North went "we're NOT having another civil war" and just agreed to all their demands to let them hav racist laws.


[13-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think would've come from things if large portions of the south were under blakk control in the late 19th century?


[13-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what I'm referring to about how we could've ended racial divisions by the 40s.


[13-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think if the South had won you would have had a _massive_ black revolt in the South in like the 20s


[13-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get it, Its.


[13-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And it would turn into a retribution thing/mass genocide


[13-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South wasn't really fighting the North.


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were fighting anyone who championed civil rights or democracy in general.


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South hates democracy.


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Always has.


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They've always been the spoiled child that the North has had to appease


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
From the very start


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What has the South actually given the US of value


[13-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cuisine?


[13-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[13-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its cuisine is just French shit but worse for your heart.


[13-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also stolen from slaves anyway


[13-Jun-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
Black music and food came from the south


[13-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
The music actually mostly came from NYC


[13-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So it belongs to _black_ southerners


[13-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah, because they had to leave the South to become famous


[13-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, a lot of them left the South before that.


[13-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's been a huge emigration from the South over time by blakks


[13-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much refugees.


[13-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
To this day, areas in the South hav blakk neighborhoods without sewers


[13-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
and fine people the money they'd need to get septic tanks for not having septic tanks.


[13-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
History class in school tries to cover it up of course.


[13-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reconstruction is talked about as this minor failure with "carpetbaggers"


[13-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then right on to talking about what wars America did in the late 19th century, and electricity


[13-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South and civil rights aren't mentioned until talking about the 20s, where it's said the KKK suddenly rose up again.


[13-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, they were there the whole fukking time, pointing guns at blakk people and the US gov't.


[13-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 20s and 30s was just when they started to gain attention in the North due to film becoming a thing.


[13-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gee I wonder why the KKK rose up again


[13-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It couldn't be that we had a racist Southerner president who was a historian in the White House


[13-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who also was a Dixieboo


[13-Jun-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really seems like racism/brutality/etc is less about it "rising up again" and more about people outside the bubble noticing again


[13-Jun-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That is, yes, there's been a major uptick in hate crime and so on, but it is an *uptick* and it didn't start at 0


[13-Jun-20 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it didn't really start with Trump's election or 9/11 or any other thing that threw fuel on the fire


[13-Jun-20 10:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Southerners just regularly want to murder blakk people.


[13-Jun-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o9aoL0NWpw

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[13-Jun-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
those who died
are justified
for wearing the badge
they're the chosen whites


[13-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess these people never read Marx huh


[13-Jun-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1271671458700369920

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[13-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't say anything about Pulse, huh


[13-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Ugh


[13-Jun-20 11:18 PM] jlun2#8758
so how likely can that be reverted post trump?


[13-Jun-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking pulse?


[13-Jun-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
Pulse nightclub massacre


[13-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Honahue#0656
none, Trump isn't the catalysis he's a result


[13-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Might get worse and might be an easy campaign promise to fix it


[13-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Who knows


[13-Jun-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[14-Jun-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking they should organize a local militia imo


[14-Jun-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Centralize, organize, all that jazz


[14-Jun-20 12:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just singing songs and doing art all day won't make the CHAZ last long imo


[14-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant how Marx doesn't like lumpenproles (homeless, layabouts, criminals etc)


[14-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't like them probably for this very reason


[14-Jun-20 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, they're often a problem


[14-Jun-20 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that they have much organizing capacity tho


[14-Jun-20 12:29 AM] jlun2#8758
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/elderly-protester-shoved-by-buffalo-police-has-brain-injury-lawyer-says
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[14-Jun-20 12:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
Lumpen are non-producers in society, relying on the criminal or purely the run-off. To organize them, or include them they must ascend into the world of the proletarian proper.


[14-Jun-20 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> (in Marxist contexts) uninterested in revolutionary advancement.
so the ppl on top?


[14-Jun-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
And also why MLK's platform was far more revolutionary than we give it credit for, because his position was jobs first for the lumpen black. Today, this would probably include breaking down the prison industrial complex and putting the former prisoners in stable normal jobs. Once in a job or a career, they can be organized in solidarity with their fellow producers.


[14-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
In the dialectical framework of Marx (you can hit the pseud alarm now) this establishes them in the Marxist adaptation of Hegel's Master-Slave dialectic where-in as producers they obtain their sense of self and being through actively producing the world and get the power to eventually run the relationship to its conclusion. Because the master in the relationship only has their sense of self in not being and "owning" workers, they have a short life span sociologically speaking. The producing class, whether classical slave or modern wage slave will always have what he or she or they with their hands as how they related to their own identities. The Egyptian laborer can point to the pyramids and say, "I made that" with more honesty than the Pharaoh who commissioned it.


[14-Jun-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 no, actually, "lumpen" means "shed off" or something


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
MLK's platform isn't deprived of credit, it's literally not told by most whites in power, especially in schools.


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It means "the skin that is shed from the working class after being deemed incompetent"


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
MLK in history class is just some guy who organized boycotts then came to Washington to speak then died.


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do not talk about his actual philosophy.


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's deprived of credit. Much of the civil rights movement is deprived of credit because it's been so taken over by the white liberal state.


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, basically, hobos and all that


[14-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consequently, students come across believing that MLK's platform was basically Biden.


[14-Jun-20 12:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
When in fact MLK would probably spit in Biden's face.


[14-Jun-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
Then get tackled by 10 policemen


[14-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, assassinated by one while he's off-duty.


[14-Jun-20 12:45 AM] illumnious#7938
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[14-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Honahue#0656
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[14-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Honahue#0656
MLK told Nichelle Nichols to stay on Star Trek


[14-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/13/spongebob-squarepants-gay-lgbtq-pride-month-nickelodeon/

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[14-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People didn't realize this?


[14-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
meh


[14-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
who cares


[14-Jun-20 01:19 AM] illumnious#7938
ok


[14-Jun-20 01:19 AM] illumnious#7938
nobody's gave a shit tho


[14-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>are featured in a rainbow color background, further signaling they are, in fact, part of the community


[14-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Eh


[14-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's implying at best


[14-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ba9_jaN7EA

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[14-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's very posible that of the three characters, all three are gay.


[14-Jun-20 01:31 AM] byte[]#2610
they acted pretty gay in the show


[14-Jun-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
however, I am generally against retroactively announcing the characters of a dead work as being gay


[14-Jun-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
just let the dead work lie


[14-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well based on this clip, Squidward's actually gay.


[14-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you mean dead because it's a zombified husk of itself now?


[14-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
To my knowledge, Spongebob is still airing.


[14-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
With new episodes.


[14-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also had a pretty recent movie.


[14-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm neutral to they retroactively announcing it, but this seems pretty loose for an announcement


[14-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The movie where they go fight the pirate narrator guy in the human world was kind of okay.


[14-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty typical kids faire, doesn't rise to the heights of older Spongebob, but not terrible.


[14-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard the new Spongebob tries really hard to pander to millennial/zoomer fans of the first three seasons/movie


[14-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bringing back Bubble Bass/movie characters etc


[14-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, Bubble Bass is now a recurring character


[14-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I've only seen up to the 9th season and it was a mix of terrible and okay just like the early seasons


[14-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There were one or two seasons in there that felt pretty flat though


[14-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I know it's an unpopular opinion though


[14-Jun-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/h84efj/seattle_coronavirus_survivor_gets_a_11_million/

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[14-Jun-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
we truly live in a society


[14-Jun-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
smh


[14-Jun-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought spongebob was asexual as fuck, but neat i guess


[14-Jun-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also fucking christ that hospital bill


[14-Jun-20 02:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What I mean by lack of nuance is that on a complicated issue everyone just accrues facts that support their own argument


[14-Jun-20 02:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And dismisses the shit out of others


[14-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
How would you intend to do it?


[14-Jun-20 02:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're both (usually) saying accurate stuff but no one's listening or learning


[14-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause if you do it factless, there's no way for either side to budge.


[14-Jun-20 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well, ya see, that's why I hate politics


[14-Jun-20 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Logical arguments can't do a thing most of the time


[14-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you can't do it with not dismissing completely factless stuff.


[14-Jun-20 02:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's the problem
Most people are saying facts but the opposing side either doesn't believe it or doesn't care


[14-Jun-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Generally i feel like this is a problem with the social situation of the person at hand


[14-Jun-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can't convince someone with an argument through the internet


[14-Jun-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However


[14-Jun-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Political crises, a worsening economy, and degrading standards of living can


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing you can do is to hit people with a hammer of some kind when they go outside logical discussion and just go "you're a salty liberal", potato


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then that very thing is what you cite as being bad.


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Look, logical discussion is essential


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a point that is frequently argued for by marxists and communists -- that the struggle is more of a convincing factor than idealist conceptions about discourse or civil society


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not saying don't do it


[14-Jun-20 02:59 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm saying that even that most effective approach of logic hardly budges someone who's stalwart against your stance


[14-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So then what are you advocating?


[14-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
(what is the point of pointing out the problem?)


[14-Jun-20 03:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't have an easy solution to this
I'm just stating why I tend to avoid politics


[14-Jun-20 03:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But


[14-Jun-20 03:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
If I wanted to do SOMETHING about it


[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The only thing I can think of is to acknowledge your opponent's stance


[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
goddamn how come you're such a salty liberal

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[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And show that their argument still has merit and that you're willing to listen


[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Still assmad that trump won?


[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But explain why you prefer your stance more in spite of that


[14-Jun-20 03:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Basically, a counterargument/rebuttal beyond "lol stay mad racist" or "lol stay assblasted lib"


[14-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no counterargument to that stuff.


[14-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Logical fallacies aren't a problem because they're hard to counter


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
they're a problem because they exist literally outside of rational argument.


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sure you might totally disagree with what they're saying but you have to still show you're attempting to listen


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Wait I'm not talking about fallacies


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Point those out


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's what those are.


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And clearly point those out


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
We do point fallacies out.


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm talking about when the opposition is making legitimate arguments


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People keep using them.


[14-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Potato, what do you think most of our chatter in here towards conservatives consists of?


[14-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
I pikk apart *tons* of legitimate arguments because of flawed facts or dubious interpretation.


[14-Jun-20 03:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't read much; most conservative talk that I see gets shut down *really* quick


[14-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then people go "haha you're just a salty liberal"


[14-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or recently there was one that was "moral of the story: be a decent human being" when talking about how cops treat blakk people harshly and punish any minor problems.


[14-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That statement's entire premise was to flatout ignore the argument and say blakks deserve it.


[14-Jun-20 03:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So
"lol just don't commit crimes"
"Ok but when a white commits a crime and a black commits a crime of equal magnitude they shouldn't receive equal treatment?"
"lol just don't commit crimes"


[14-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Jun-20 03:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well yeah that's not a good way to tackle that argument obviously


[14-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think there's something you're not really getting about the whole situation that politics in the US is in.


[14-Jun-20 03:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Probably since I've kinda been on the sidelines of it for quite a bit


[14-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives don't believe in using facts and reason to determine societal courses of action.


[14-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mean, hav you been listening to their rhetoric for the past 20 years?


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all based on pathos and ethos, not logos.


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But when you try to nail them on ethos, they just discard it.


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It's *much* more pathos based than liberals from what I see


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a starting point where it doesn't matter what society does.


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't argue to them that the system is racist.


[14-Jun-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
it's more ethos from what I've seen


[14-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't care whether it is or not.


[14-Jun-20 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
"leader man good"


[14-Jun-20 03:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah that's why Republicans are able to have unity in message (even if that message is often "ugh" to me)


[14-Jun-20 03:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're able to unify under one banner very easily


[14-Jun-20 03:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which I guess is the ethos bit


[14-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You aren't going to get anywhere saying "the data shows that blakk people are treated worse" when the other guy just goes "well that's just arbitrary variation, individual people treating them worse, there's always gonna be someone treated worst"


[14-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very premise of the conservative side of the argument is that the data can never prove anything meaningful.


[14-Jun-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
except that common conservative arguments use statistics


[14-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could show in a situation where literally 100% of white people involved treated 100% of blakk people far worse, and they would go "well that's just individual bad white people then"


[14-Jun-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A likely solution: increase the number of Muricans belonging to the proletarian class.


[14-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's the real trouble with it.


[14-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives like to use statistics to generalize when it favors them.


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
X% of blakk people are criminals, that's more than Y% for whites


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Proletarianization* is generally a good gateway towards a more radical leftist ideology


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
but when it's that X% of blakk people are treated poorly, and that's more than Y% of whites, it's discarded.


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I've been meaning to ask about that, actually
Politics starting flaring up in my household


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why is the % of the black populace that commits crime higher than whites


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Obviously the 52% number is bullshit


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, the CBO is used as a cudgel against Democrats


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But it is slightly higher nonetheless


[14-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's used to say "this would cost a lot of money, so don't do it"


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's faulty, manipulated data


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 13%

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[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
but then when Republicans get told by the CBO that something costs a lot, they do it.


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also intentional


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Manipulated how


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't actually giv a damn how much things cost.


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want a cudgel.


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As in, racial profiling by the FBI, more arrests for petty crimes, etc


[14-Jun-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Higher incarceration rates


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[14-Jun-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[14-Jun-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Cheers bro, I'll pin that


[14-Jun-20 03:15 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah I figured that was part of the problem


[14-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Why is the % of the black populace that commits crime higher than whites
0. Blakks hav way, way less wealth and thus may often need crime to survive or to feel happy (drugs).
1. Blakks are stereotyped as criminals (if you're only allowed to be X, why be anything else?)
2. People suspect blakks more.
3. Police and everything in the justice system will drop white cases preferentially and target blakks.
4. Blakks get longer sentences that mean they are more likely to stay criminals and reoffend.


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
A white policeman in a black neighborhood has ingroup bias and ingrown prejudice and fear of blacks
It's logical to thus say they're more likely to arrest and abuse blacks because they fear for their own safety


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And because they have innate bias of "black crime"


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bias is a two-way street


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
you with the bias make extra trouble for the person


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
the person you bias will play into it.


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
And when you go to prison it's often harder to get a job factoring into a cycle of repeated imprisonment that contributes to the growth of the prison population. Esspecially when comparatively minor offenses irrelevant to a charge may be used to compound it ("X is a serial jaywalker"). Prisoners have value in the current paradigm because they are cheap labor. No one is going to change anything if prisons are the new plantations.


[14-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice is bad.


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, really bad.


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Obviously


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not obvious.


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to allegory.


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tulsa-police-slammed-after-video-shows-handcuffing-2-black-teens-n1229806

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The city's mayor said, “No Tulsa kid should have to fear being tackled and cuffed for walking down the street.”
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[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consider the ridiculous disparity in sexual crimes by males vs. females.


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should we prejudge males as guilty of every accusation as a result?


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
@jlun2 and sho on and sho on


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And prejudge females as not?


[14-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society does this, and it leads to severe problems.


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hate that it does.


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But when the same is done to blakks, they don't care.


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because their hierarchical model has whites > blakks, and men > women.


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Obviously being able to remove the prejudice helps


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You talked about how it's harder to get a job as a black due to innate profiling or even get into a good neighborhood in the first place which is a vicious cycle


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
btw, women get shorter sentences.


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But *how*


[14-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the exact same crimes.


[14-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a guy swerves and plows into a crowded playground, he's going to jail


[14-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
a woman may get probation only


[14-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
A jury will go "oh she couldn't handle her liquor"


[14-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also "oh well he was just a lousy drunk"


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biases are pernicious.


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So yeah, much like with I did kinda earlier, you're stating the problem and yeah, I agree with it


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How do you drop bias


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main thing you do is processes.


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You establish clear guidelines to follow.


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And punish people when they step outside of them.


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also COMPARE what is done in similar cases.


[14-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consistency is very, very important.


[14-Jun-20 03:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That helps; it seems like how you handle Derpi ratings too (objective clear guidelines that give no regard to how much you like an image or not)


[14-Jun-20 03:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But why hasn't that occurred yet


[14-Jun-20 03:22 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I assume it hasn't because people are prejudiced in the first place and won't allow those guidelines to come up


[14-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern racists especially HATE having actual guidelines.


[14-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they can't tolerate blakks in power.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] jlun2#8758
forever?


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I talked about this earlier, how the KKK basically all but overthrew the US gov't.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Newer generations are less racist.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we **hav to** dismantle the racism inherent in the system.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok so you need to drop racism by adding clear guidelines, but you can't because people are racist


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sounds like a circular problem to me


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you need to remove the racism.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Destroy all confederate statues.


[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
With explosives.

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[14-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's step 1


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are a few hundred more steps.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Maybe don't injure innocents with that


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some are concurrent.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Innocents will be injured no matter what.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Take it down, yes, as it symbolizes racism


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But why don't you just remove the statues normally and safely


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Without hurting people


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, it's unrealistic to believe people won't die from trying to stop racism.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern racists love their guns.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because a message needs to be sent.


[14-Jun-20 03:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
OK but this specific step doesn't require hurting people unnecessarily


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
> But *how*
@IAmADeliciousPotato 

Clearly by dropping pretense of ownership of a buisiness that allows for a owner to be able to even subconsciously bias against candidates. But then to even eliminate the concept of the company and the firm in general. But here we come to the entire thread in it's full length since this neccesitates an annihilation of capitalism.

Stumping for and against racist union structures would help to annihilate the structural bias that deters black participation. Blacks in America have long been involved in the labor process and the production of wealth in America. What has to be done is to organize those in it.


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statues need to be taken down publicly and in a way that makes a splash.


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
At the same time, you need to put blakks into office


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
especially local office


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
you need them on the police force, and ratting out any officer that is racist


[14-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you need whistleblower protections


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
an officer who gets a racist fired should receive huge benefits, *not* his own firing.


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] jlun2#8758
@AaronMk "Not a good fit" for jobs that 50 years ago a high school drop out would easily get


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok remove them in a big way but don't hurt innocents ffs


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Something that's loud and public but also not dangerous


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
innocents will be hurt when Southern racists get out their guns


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and start shooting people.


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the problem here.


[14-Jun-20 03:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They're getting out guns no matter *how* you take down the statues


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything has to be done carefully and in a very deliberate manner.


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sending a stronger message might delay them a bit.


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Can you not hurt extra people by taking the statues in an overly violent way


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, but you must realize


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
often they are in control of who owns the statues


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we need angry mobs beheading Christopher Colombus status.


[14-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why we need them throwing confederate monuments in rivers.


[14-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christopher Colombus liked to giv 9-year-old native girls as sex slaves to loyal officers just so you know.


[14-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a good guy to hav statues of.


[14-Jun-20 03:30 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Can you not hurt extra people by taking the statues in an overly violent way
@IAmADeliciousPotato 

I don't think you're hurting people when you take down a statue because when you do this everyone is in on the game and know well enough to clear out.


[14-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's part of the point of having angry mobs do it.


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you just hav one guy one do it, he'll probably be arrested and also hurt someone.


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also need to destroy the statue fast so it can't be repaired.


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
OK I dunno
I just got concerned when explosives got involved because... those hurt :xd:


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Which is part of why they send a powerful message


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
> OK I dunno
> I just got concerned when explosives got involved because... those hurt :xd:
@IAmADeliciousPotato 

Usually a lot of rope.


[14-Jun-20 03:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But they might also cause easy unwanted collateral damage


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Actually, always rope and a lot of pulling. Like when we toppled Saddam's statue in Bahgdad.


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
The current method of taking down statues by rope is fine by me


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Just got some heavy gauge cable and a big truck


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It sends a message because you need a lot of people to do it


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And it doesn't cause bodily harm as much


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with rope is you might not destroy the statue.


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even in the river, they can put it bakk.


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statues need to be destroyed when the local gov't is not willing to put them in a museum.


[14-Jun-20 03:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Then rope down the statue and smash it with hammers when it's down


[14-Jun-20 03:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
Reminder protestors in Chile not only did this to remove a statue of the colonial founder of their city, but used the same ropes to hang it from a noose over a bridge.


[14-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hammers are slow, you've gotta do it before the police can arrive.


[14-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Small detonations are what people should be using when possible.


[14-Jun-20 03:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah alright just something that doesn't hurt people is the general message


[14-Jun-20 03:35 AM] AaronMk#4499
This forgets that people may.not be removing or defacing monuments or statues because they want them gone but want to make a statement. A lynches statue of a Spanish colonial governor off a bridge means it can be put back, but a statement in the moment of anger is made in regards to that and fits the statue and the act within the conversation, or the outburst. It is not ultimately an isolated event but the flow of a sequence of events


[14-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Explosives also invoke a pretty negative reaction


[14-Jun-20 03:35 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also I want to be sure why tearing statues down is essential in the first place for dropping racism
As I understand it
"These statues are of racists and if people respect them and holding them to a pedestal, they are also condoning racism"
"Thus they should be removed"


[14-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Vandalism turned to terrorism, ya know


[14-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, actually.


[14-Jun-20 03:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
The slave master in the Bristol River can be retrieved, yes. But then the act is a response in this very abstract conversation and what is done after retrieval is what more has to be said in that moment


[14-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is these particular statues are used to send a continual message to those being suppressed by racism.


[14-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that they condone racism, it's that they are basically spitting in the face of all the blakk people in the area, continually.


[14-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why they were erected.


[14-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It allows for long-dead confederates to literally stand over and look down on blakks.


[14-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having them in the community makes blakks less likely to engage in society in a variety of ways.


[14-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like hanging a paddle used to spank a kid in a case in the hall.


[14-Jun-20 03:38 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah I guess it would be analogous to statues of Hitler in communities with significant Jewish populations


[14-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if there were 1700 Hitler statues in various communities with Jewish populations.


[14-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically the situation we are in.


[14-Jun-20 03:43 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I believe that the statues were erected out of respect for people they deemed noble and not a tool to oppress the other race

But I can totally understand why it might have that effect of oppression, especially if in plain sight

You can't filter out a statue like you would an offensive image in Dorpi


[14-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahhahah


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Potato you're believing the account of confederates.


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what they did during Reconstruction?


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yes


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hint: there were blakk senators in the 1860s in the South, and not again for over a century.


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure you do.


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They killed blakk people by the thousands


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
in an armed revolt against state gov'ts


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They basically just said "fuck off" to any attempts at integrating black people into society


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[14-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They murdered people.


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And also killed and lynched


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They murdered whole political rallies.


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They threatened the US gov't


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not totally unfamiliar with lynch mobs


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
until it acquiesced to their demands


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
these weren't lynch mobs


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
these were small armies


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
These were small armies committing acts of terrorism


[14-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and doing coups


[14-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
resulting in a US presidential election where the entire Southern vote was basically compromised


[14-Jun-20 03:46 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess I wasn't aware of that


[14-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't gave up fighting them because it didn't want to restart the civil war.


[14-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it stopped enforcing the 14th amendment.


[14-Jun-20 03:47 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll give it a read to confirm
Just wanna be sure


[14-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slavery may hav been ended already, but the South got to keep its racial structure.


[14-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statues were put in place about 50 years later.


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the KKK started getting more nationwide power, and presence in the media


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_riots_of_1866

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The Memphis massacre of 1866 was a series of violent events that occurred from May 1 to 3, 1866 in Memphis, Tennessee. The racial violence was ignited by political, social, and racial tensions following the American Civil War, in the early stages of Reconstruction. After a sho...
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[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statues ensured that blakks knew their place


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Got it


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
> I believe that the statues were erected out of respect for people they deemed noble and not a tool to oppress the other race

No, they were erected by KKK members to spit in the face of blacks


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah they either didn't teach me that or I forgot it


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't generally teach it.


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's one of the big problems with US schooling.


[14-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 1870s to 1900s are basically ignored.


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that's covered is GO WEEEEEEEST


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Nah
For us they covered how industry came to dominate everything


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good bat?

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[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
did you know that MLK was a socialist? I didn't until I left school, despite reading him _every year_ for some assignment


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, that is a thing that happened.


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But I suppose they did sweep a LOT of racism under the rug


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because of giant companies that controlled things like crazy.


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
And literally went around the Carribean shooting anyone that got in their way.


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
They swept a lot under the rug in general.


[14-Jun-20 03:49 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Seems like they didn't quite do Reconstruction justice (and yes that is a euphemistic understatement)


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that US imperialism also predates the civil war -- read up on William Walker and Nicaragua


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dole literally staged coups.


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
With US military equipment.


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sold to them for that purpose.


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Southern WASP dude literally invaded a Central American nation with the intent on making it a new slave holding territory of the US


[14-Jun-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato the FBI literally bombed a black city in philadelphia by helicopter, did you read about that in school?


[14-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
Because _I sure as hell didn't_


[14-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You might also want to read up on Haiti


[14-Jun-20 03:51 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah I did APUSH and they completely just IGNORED ZONE


[14-Jun-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_(filibuster)

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William Walker (May 8, 1824 – September 12, 1860) was an American physician, lawyer, journalist and mercenary who organized several private military expeditions into Mexico and Central America, with the intent of establishing English-speaking colonies under his personal contro...
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[14-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only successful slave revolt.


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] AaronMk#4499
Tulsa was fire bombed by a white mob from airplanes that owned. With turpentine bombs they happened to have. And the Tulsa Race Riots was the first time the US was ever bombed.


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
During the French Revolution


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah because France CBA to try and defend it


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Potato


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, most of the time the US would just prop some caudillo satrap in their interests in that area


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here it was literally a gringo


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, remember how in the French Revolution


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
people were screaming for equality


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The principles laid out clearly indicated that racism was not okay.


[14-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this was unacceptable to many, regardless of the status of nobles etc.


[14-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti was undergoing a revolution of its own, as slaves rose up *en masse*


[14-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
What ended up happening was some anti-slavery French guys sent to stop the revolution instead went "free the slaves"


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, poor whites would literally burn cities to the ground to prevent equal rights declarations.


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And rich blakks who escaped slavery would often side with them.


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause equal rights would mean a loss of stature for both.


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ironically, Maximilien de Robespierre was very adamant in his defense of racial equality in Haiti


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Turns out the chop heads off dude wasn't entirely bad


[14-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, in the end, Haiti was independent...and Napoleon was insistent that that was bad.


[14-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Napoleon tried to reconquer Haiti and failed.


[14-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
He said that he was not doing it for economic reasons


[14-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
but for racial reasons.


[14-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Haiti was a major part of France's economy)


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
As a result of Napoleon's generals being very, very brutal


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti's response was to kill all the whites that didn't fight for the revolutionaries.


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make damn sure that it wouldn't happen again.


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Alright that's a LOT of history lessons
I asked earlier how removal of Confederate statues would help with dropping racism and I suppose that's your rationale


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
This resulted in western society condemning Haiti


[14-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the US saw it as reason to not end slavery


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
The point is that the statues are explicitly designed to be an institution of racism


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And yeah, there's no doubt that history, especially modern history, is marred with racism


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
they would say "see what happens when you end slavery? BLAKKS MURDER US"


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And when you bring it up like that


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
The intent of making them was literally to make black people uncomfortable


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Haiti's revolution is integral to understanding the US civil war.


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They really shouldn't be out in public at all


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Not to honor the confederacy


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
American history classes SHOULD talk at length about the French Revolution and the Haitian Revolution


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] jlun2#8758
is it bad I remembered practically nothing about history classes except it was a boring info dump to remember for tests & forget next year?


[14-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US revolution inspired both


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
many confederate generals after the war would have shot the KKK


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and both had a lasting effect on US politics


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
if they'd lived


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Modern US politics are based on the French Revolution


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's literally where we get the terms "left" and "right" @IAmADeliciousPotato


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah


[14-Jun-20 03:58 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How they were seated


[14-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative philosophy is entirely based on reinventing the nobility in a way compatible with the outcome French Revolution, and on rejecting both revolutions, claiming them to be illegitimate.


[14-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was literally invented because without nobility by birth or clergy being reliable, the market was seen as the best alternative.


[14-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You lie that things are a meritocracy, get rich, then say since you are rich, you are just and should lead.


[14-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Trump is president.


[14-Jun-20 04:00 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I suppose you can move them out of sight (back to the statues)
And I guess that's also why you reject moving them into a museum (because they have nothing noble about them, in your eyes)


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No I'm fine with moving them into museums.


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Oh


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought you wanted to blow em up


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:xd:


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe they shouldn't be in public, and should require a certain education on them first.


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that if people first see a statue of Jefferson Davis or whoever, standing tall and proud, and blakks see it and cower


[14-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
then it perpetuates racial divisions.


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If instead you go "okay so here's how the Confederacy was utter scum, and here's a statue made of one of their leaders, used to inspire fear in blakks here until it was removed" *then* show people the statue in private, that's fine.


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Ironically, Maximilien de Robespierre was very adamant in his defense of racial equality in Haiti
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

He was also against the Revolutionary Wars and I think even the Death Penalty but ended up in a position where France was doing both but he also wasn't in control of it either. So he just sorta did it


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you HAV TO tell them the Confederacy was scum.


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That seems logical enough
I was just slightly concerned you wanted to *remove* history outright


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of those people hav Confederate ancestors.


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
history is written by the victors


[14-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
and the victors in this case are Confederates.


[14-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won in 1877.


[14-Jun-20 04:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah...


[14-Jun-20 04:03 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I can't imagine there are many statues of, say, Frederick Douglass in the South lmao


[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/J5b_-TZwQ0I

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[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We should put up a statue of Tupac in every major southern city


[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] jlun2#8758
& tiny souvineers of them


[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not until very very recently.


[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just in case


[14-Jun-20 04:04 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So I agree that moving statues to museums is a good idea


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And providing proper historical context


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to destroy statues is that their owners may not want them in museums.


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statue being removed from public is by far more important than ownership.


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine if Germany kept around statues of Hitler


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
On public display


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You did mention hundreds of other steps though
No doubt it'll be a difficult process
But what else is necessary


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah byte I made that analogy earlier


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
ID for all


[14-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
free ID


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] jlun2#8758
> And providing proper historical context
have fun trying; it'll be lobbied like hell with something about "Freedom of expression" or some shit


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guaranteed mail voting


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I was always of the agreement that they had to get tf out of plain sight


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
complete replacement of all police dept.s


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
removal of thousands of racist judges


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
removal of voting for judges in the first place


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] jlun2#8758
lifelong judges rip


[14-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
changing of millions of history books written by Confederates and those sourcing them


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
a complete overhaul of how American schools are funded


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No doubt getting racists out of the department is a good idea


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
a complete overhaul of all American drug laws


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
the complete abolition of private prisons as a concept


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But how would they be replaced


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
wholesale.


[14-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
With no former cops allowed.


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
New faces only, vetted IN PUBLIC by a committee comitted to equality and policing that isn't overly punitive.


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Holy shit what


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police need to be replaced.


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Why not vet existing officers instead of automatically assuming "they're bad get em out"


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corrupt cops protect racists.


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because corruption is like a weed, Potato.


[14-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are the enforcers.


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corrupt ones protect each other.


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sure if you toss out a lot of them I wouldn't be surprised
But I think you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to hav a moratorium on anyone returning.


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, 10 years.


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need a batch of KNOWN good cops in order to be able to keep out the bad.


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah, so...
why not just evaluate the EXISTING cops too


[14-Jun-20 04:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Instead of assuming automatically that they all suck


[14-Jun-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
how would that be implemented in the current political environment


[14-Jun-20 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No doubt a lot of them do
But that's like punishing the entire class for one troublemaker


[14-Jun-20 04:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's overly punitive in and of itself


[14-Jun-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 in this current political environment, it likely won't, but things *will* change in the near future


[14-Jun-20 04:10 AM] jlun2#8758
@IAmADeliciousPotato death sentence for the school bully pls


[14-Jun-20 04:11 AM] jlun2#8758
high school made me hate physical ppl


[14-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to assume they all sukk.


[14-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is if even a few corrupt cops stikk around, they get their buddies bakk in.


[14-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
With severe corruption in the very people society depends on, you can't risk it.


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Again, why not evaluate them


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because a lot of them lie.


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And normal people don't?


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are talking about people who've spent their entire careers learning to lie.


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Normal people do lie, yes.


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there's less chance they've spent a career learning how to.


[14-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want fresh people who don't know the trikks.


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind, corrupt cops regularly lie to courts.


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Potato


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
What do you think cops mostly do


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
On a day to day basis


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I mean I assume they work similarly to mods here
Just kinda patrolling and responding to reports


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Not starting shit


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] jlun2#8758
donuts


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
No


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

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Confessions of a Former Bastard Cop
I was a police officer for nearly ten years and I was a bastard. We all were.
https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*HyIaXPcqi3wl-Hz6A0vagA.jpeg


[14-Jun-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Read this


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
looking at secret porn they confiscated


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cops intentionally look for people they can abuse their power on


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
then lie to courts if necessary.


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine if Derpi had like 12,000 rules


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rules like "you may not put Starlight in an image twice"


[14-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and we made a game of finding people to hurt with that


[14-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
or if we were suddenly tasked with making sure that nobody who didn't draw art had their uploads in the top scoring section.


[14-Jun-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I have far more sources but discord search is broken right now


[14-Jun-20 04:17 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Just a few paragraphs into it and I'm already thinking... yeah this sucks
But the new cop protested the bullshit at first which makes me think...
If all you're doing is bringing new people into the existing architecture, good or not
Why wouldn't it just repeat itself


[14-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem isn't the architecture itself entirely.


[14-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the people within it too.


[14-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need fresh people as well as rules to keep them honest.


[14-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dishonest people in a structure that punishes them for such will just intensify things.


[14-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an uphill battle to fight embedded corrupt assholes.


[14-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's much faster to remove them all, then put in fresh people.


[14-Jun-20 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think the problem is also with the 12,000 rules themselves
There is no goddamn reason for zero tolerance on collecting recycling besides $$$$


[14-Jun-20 04:19 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
So new people, under the influence of the same asinine 12,000 rules, would cause the same shit


[14-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually, yes.


[14-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why some of those steps involve replacing the rules.


[14-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those rules were written by racists.


[14-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Zero tolerance in general btw is designed for racism.


[14-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that you can't go "well the blakk guy is just doing it a little"


[14-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(meanwhile they just ignore the white guy doing it)


[14-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It ensures big sentences for minor things and that the police can be faulted when blakk guys aren't arrested.


[14-Jun-20 04:21 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Replace the rules that were written for reasons that have nothing to do with public safety first
Then start evaluation and replacement of officers


[14-Jun-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Incrementalism is gay because you can start doing it over the course of a few years and then your party gets voted out and the new party trashes it


[14-Jun-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
(if you ever even get that far)


[14-Jun-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
^ :ts_cry:


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah you need to do a lot very fast.


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
This is what happened to the majority of gay and trans rights rules under the trump administration


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm still calling for large overhaul, but I want to scrub out the source of new filth before rinsing out the old stuff


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't do "before"


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] jlun2#8758
"pls revert whatever the hell trump does"
"no"


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
you hav to do them both at the same time.


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any delaying things puts them at risk.


[14-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are masters of delaying or causing delayed things to die.


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this, btw, is also why Graham and McConnell are so dangerous in the senate


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess while you attempt wholesale dismantlement and try to overhaul the police system...
who does the patrolling while that occurs?


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they're very good at blocking any incremental democractic stuff while pushing through sweeping Republican stuff


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody.


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'm not against total overhaul, but imo you still need *something* to keep people in line while you overhaul


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first thing you do actually, is tell the police to only respond when there's threat of harm


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you start replacing individual precincts


[14-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the meantime, others can cover a precinct that's lost its police.


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"nobody patrolling" isn't a crazy thing because you're working off the assumption that patrolling is even necessary


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but often, there will be nobody, and that's okay.


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
patrolling is bad.


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's literally going around looking for trouble. And you know how the saying goes


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
imo why wouldn't it be
If people can get away with illegal stuff that benefits them I believe they would do it


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay and?


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If nobody's stealing shit or killing someone, why care?


[14-Jun-20 04:25 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie show him the new york studu


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
You didn't mention "other precincts can cover"


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html

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https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html
In New York, major crime complaints fell when cops took a break fro...
When New York police officers temporarily reduced their “proactive policing” efforts on low-level offenses, major-crime reports in the city actually fell, according to a study based on New York Police Department crime statistics.
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[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Incidentally, what do you think happens *now* if someone breaks into your house and steals your stuff and you call the cops


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Patrolling is a bad word


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But someone still needs to respond to crime/reports


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patrolling and responding to calls are different things.


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Right, sorry


[14-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
911 handles calls and figures out what to tell officers to do.


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patrolling is officers looking for shit going on so they can rush in and fukk up people.


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wanted to know who responded to the calls and who mobilizes to act when there's no police to do it


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You tell the police


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Because you're also busy dismantling


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
to sit in their precinct


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
and not leave unless called


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Patrolling is broken windows theory in action


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, all adjacent precincts lose their police.


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok ok ok ok yeah


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
No patrolling


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I fucked up


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, piece by piece.


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I just meant like responding to reports


[14-Jun-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Ok got it


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are LOTS of police in the US.


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can handle having only half of them for a while.


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when you restrict how much they do.


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And at the same time, right now, if you *do* call the cops to show up because of a break-in the response is more often than not "okay and"


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no one's going CSI on your apartment


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police aren't supposed to show up unless there's an active threat, yeah.


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're supposed to file a report.


[14-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then they can come over.


[14-Jun-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
or if you call the cops to check on your black neighbors because you heard noises they might show up and shoot the family and dog instead


[14-Jun-20 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Yeah, I was just concerned that nothing was in place to respond to reports while you were busy overhauling everything


[14-Jun-20 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But you've alleviated that


[14-Jun-20 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and as for responding to reports? This also means that unless the report is "murder in progress" the police can (and should) leave the guns behind


[14-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Wellness chekks" should not be handled by cops period.


[14-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason to send in armed enforcers to make sure someone is still alive.


[14-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wellness chekks often end in the police killing a blakk person in their own home btw.


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And not even that


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
UK police leave guns in the car.


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So if it turns into a shooting, they hav a gun, but if not, stays in the car.


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll let you guys continue to talk about police; I've said all I've needed and asked all I've needed


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Well, one more thing
Moratorium is ok


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
read that article more than a skim's worth


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But 10 years seems kinda long


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a lot to unpack


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be long.


[14-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're dealing with a really bad problem.


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It requires really extreme solutions.


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I'll give it a more thorough read; I just needed to respond to stuff in the moment


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're dealing with "what you did should be career-ending," so if they want a job they'll have to find a new career. Not just a new district or precinct


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
we're dealing with someone doing something that should be career-ending


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and instead it ends the career of the person who reported them


[14-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they kill 4 people


[14-Jun-20 04:33 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[14-Jun-20 04:33 AM] green_byte#1188
Definitely makes sense...


[14-Jun-20 04:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this happens constantly


[14-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the case of Cariol Horne, the officer didn't actually kill the 4, but you get the idea.


[14-Jun-20 04:33 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it would be more useful to allow a shorter moratorium (5 years)
And then, if police are deemed worthy of re-entry, then a retraining under new rules
Rather than 10 years and no entry back at all


[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
>Pannekoek


[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
H A L F
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[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yayayayayayayayayayaya


[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cariol Horne was a blakk female cop


[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
her partner, Gregory Kwiatkowski, started choking a guy he had cuffed


[14-Jun-20 04:34 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Anyway sorry I'll go read the article
The moratorium length seems like a difference of opinion rather than something we can actually argue


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
she told him to stop and grabbed his arm


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
he broke her nose.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She got fired for assaulting him.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dept. cited her alleged assault as her takkling him.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which contradicts both her and his statements.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She was denied her pension.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has been 14 years.


[14-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was eventually fired after he attakked 4 blakk guys for no reason.


[14-Jun-20 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
> I wrote scathing accounts of their behavior, thinking I was helping keep bad apples out of law enforcement and believing I would be protected. Instead, the academy staff read my complaints to them out loud and outed me to them and never punished them, causing me to get harassed for the rest of my academy class. That’s how I learned that even police leadership hates rats. 
This makes me think that this former cop *was* a good person
But that the existing system turned into a scumbag by punishing him for being moral


[14-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how corrupt people work.


[14-Jun-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
This is why people say ACAB


[14-Jun-20 04:36 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And what I'm seeing from these anecdotes is supporting that


[14-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They punish you for trying to stop them.


[14-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
assigned cop at birth


[14-Jun-20 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Incrementalism to me here seems like an extremely grimy sticky plate and every 5 minutes you lightly scrub it with a sponge


[14-Jun-20 04:48 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Sure you remove a lot of grime and it seems like you're doing a lot but it's not accomplishing anything major


[14-Jun-20 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, if you've got a good thing and you're just trying to make it better, then incrementalism has its place


[14-Jun-20 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but half measures are still half measures


[14-Jun-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
orange man rolled back decades of environmental protections in 1 stroke so yes


[14-Jun-20 05:20 AM] wren#0114

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[14-Jun-20 05:37 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there any such thing as free copyright?


[14-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
?


[14-Jun-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
copyleft


[14-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Open source cola exists


[14-Jun-20 05:45 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
@Itsthinking have you tasted it?


[14-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[14-Jun-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[14-Jun-20 05:46 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I'd try to make my own cola


[14-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qLYAFdddPw

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A life defining question.
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[14-Jun-20 06:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> not rw
:roseconfused:


[14-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Crow#5457
"not right wing"


[14-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/12/trump-finalizes-rule-defining-gender-as-a-persons-/

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[14-Jun-20 06:24 AM] jlun2#8758
ty. also rip. too many trans/homophobes


[14-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato https://imgur.com/gallery/yw8pVfh

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[14-Jun-20 06:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You know it's bad when even the bog roll is criticising you.
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson scrapped a team of Cabinet ministers tasked with protecting the UK from a pandemic six months before coronavirus arrived, a Mail investigation has found.
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[14-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jun-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
four panels, you know what that means


[14-Jun-20 06:35 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
.p blm


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[14-Jun-20 06:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I know what that memes


[14-Jun-20 06:36 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
.p black lives matter


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[14-Jun-20 06:38 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why the downvotes?


[14-Jun-20 06:39 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Even though the art's beautiful


[14-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Honahue#0656
"stop making my cartoon political"


[14-Jun-20 06:40 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Same with coming out of the closet can't be good


[14-Jun-20 06:40 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
So it's bad to have a gay OC these days?


[14-Jun-20 06:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Weird. I entered the image number but it kept telling me "could not find what you were looking for" or something. then made me log in again.


[14-Jun-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bot provides a link.

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[14-Jun-20 06:41 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
How can a Bi flag harm anyone


[14-Jun-20 06:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Jackie's Bi so if I can draw her holding it then why not


[14-Jun-20 06:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I clicked the link and I was not logged in so I urled to the page from another one.


[14-Jun-20 06:42 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's her life being bisexual, it doesn't effect their lives


[14-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[14-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone protesting Floyd is wearing a mask


[14-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The people protesting restrictions are not


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A normal protest during a pandemic that follows guidelines is fine


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A protest about wanting to be able to spread a disease is not.


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a physician chose the people not wearing a mask, I'd be pretty worried.


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of what's being protested.


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know my stance on social distancing and guidelines


[14-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's like, 2 reasons here that physicians are choosing the left side.


[14-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd be completely unreasonable for them to join the far-right protest.


[14-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm reminded of people who claim people who are on the left side of the spectrum have higher rates of mental illness


[14-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When that's the case _because people on that side of the spectrum are more likely to try to get help and thus be diagnosed_


[14-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the whole "back in my day we just called these people crazy" shit


[14-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Honahue#0656
the people protesting Flyods death are protesting systemic abuses of power, the people protest quarentine are protesting that they can't get a hair cut, there's a big difference


[14-Jun-20 06:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Hey, it's not as bad as medieval times


[14-Jun-20 06:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
In that time, you're fucking stoned to death


[14-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's both irrelevant and stupid on so, so many levels.


[14-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's a non-sequiter


[14-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Honahue#0656
just cause it was worse in the past doesn't mean we should accept it now


[14-Jun-20 07:02 AM] jlun2#8758
> How can a Bi flag harm anyone
> It's her life being bisexual, it doesn't effect their lives
I dont mind the Bi flag, but for things I hate I get intrusive thoughts for weeks, so if I see them (the things I hate, not the Bi Flag) I get irrationally angry even if they're not doing anything to me


[14-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
mfw Texas is now considered a swing state


[14-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
dang, the times...


[14-Jun-20 07:09 AM] jimm#1439
what's the deal with these idiots who insist promoting any form prevention of bad things is victim blaming
how soon until sear belts are considered problematic


[14-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
they have been


[14-Jun-20 07:10 AM] jimm#1439
door locks are victim blaming too


[14-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
semi in the reverse direction


[14-Jun-20 07:10 AM] jimm#1439
just teach people not to steal


[14-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Honahue#0656
where cars have to be designed to not kill people who don't wear seatbelts


[14-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Why didn't you have 3 dobermans? Sounds like you were lax on security tbh, not sure what you expecting"


[14-Jun-20 07:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8416475/Boris-Johnson-billionaire-Richard-Desmond-120m-property-scandal.html?ito=1490

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Richard Desmond and the Westferry Printworks are at the centre of an ever unfolding scandal which has embroiled Prime Minister Boris Johnson himself.
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[14-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Actually you took my dobermans away when you found out about my FurAffinity account"

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[14-Jun-20 07:14 AM] jimm#1439
you can promote self defense and strategies to prevent being a victim at the same time as not blaming the victim but too many people are too stupid to accept this


[14-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Real talk. I would love to have 3 dobermans


[14-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Texas is a swing state because California is pushing a lot of people out


[14-Jun-20 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe with some democratic leadership big cities in Texas will get some public transport finally ~~they won't!~~


[14-Jun-20 07:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://news.osu.edu/when-europeans-were-slaves--research-suggests-white-slavery-was-much-more-common-than-previously-believed/

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Research Suggests White Slavery Was Much More Common
Editor's note (3/21/20): For an update on this story, visit:

Why is a 16-year-old book on slavery so popular now?

 

A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than ...
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[14-Jun-20 07:23 AM] Honahue#0656
oh wow in North Africa over 300 years ago


[14-Jun-20 07:24 AM] Honahue#0656
doesn't really mean much to white in europe or america


[14-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Barbary slave trade is pretty well known


[14-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
was it chattel slavery or not?


[14-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[14-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was mostly known for chaining people to rowboats to man the oars


[14-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And drown when the ship goes down


[14-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
being enslaved by them was a death sentance


[14-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Slavery isn't some white man's invention, it's existed in practically every culture across time


[14-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Honahue#0656
1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly 1 million and quite possibly as many as 1.25 million white


[14-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Honahue#0656
. Current estimates are that about 12 million to 12.8 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic over a span of 400 years,


[14-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The trans atlantic slave trade isn't some thing where white colonists went across Africa with nets trapping people to transport them to the new world


[14-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was europeans going to the already existing slave markets and buying everyone they could, which of course drove demand up


[14-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>teaspoon about to be cancelled


[14-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
slavery existed for a long time but even in the bible it was a 7 year contract not a lifetime and slave childrens weren't slaves too


[14-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
that's part of the difference between ancient slavery and American chattel slavery


[14-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah... that might be the bible, but it wasn't how egyptians or romans or greeks or any culture actually operated


[14-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you are skipping a lot of different cultures and eras of slavery honahue


[14-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some cultures purported to treat slaves "right"


[14-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's historical white washing and cherry picking


[14-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The average roman or greek slave was absolute trash and valued only for how expensive they were to purchase and how useful they were


[14-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Islamic slave trade was pretty  common.
the Ottoman one and the North African one especially.


[14-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
depends on when you're talking in Rome, slaves early on yeah basicaly chattel latter slaves had much more rights


[14-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Sunnyside#3103
heck the russians originally got their start as slavers. they'd kidnap slavs and sell them elsewhere.


[14-Jun-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
to pick at where I think you were going with this, the legacy of black slavery in the US is still extremely relevant today because we had a massive slave population across all southern states, were super late to the party in abolishing it, and then when the confederates got reconstruction efforts dismantled they went right back to binding and shackling black people to do their bidding


[14-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Honahue#0656
but yeah slavery in Rome doesn't have much to do with how people are treated now Rome died 1600 years ago or 600 if you include the Byzantines


[14-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, definitely, even spain of all places had abolished the practice 200 years earlier


[14-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the main problems with how slavery was practiced by Europeans toward Africans was that it was passed on to any born from them.


[14-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That meant no way to escape it prior to abolition for cultural groups, which means that come abition, a huge division of class by culture is in place.


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, that's always fun to try to explain to people


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"There is no systemic racism in the USA"


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure dude, there's no "blacks are inferior" policy written down


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Roman slavery didn't pass on to children born. To replenish slaves, families could sell their son if he didn't liv up to their standards etc.


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But there's a whole lot of "fuck the poor in this neighbourhood specifically"


[14-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And gerrymandering


[14-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This meant that while Romans had slaves, those slaves could be actual Romans or random tribesmen or anything, any divisions by culture wouldn't last super long that weren't maintained actively by other means.


[14-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, slavery's bad, but it's way worse when you line it up with inheritance.


[14-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you are aware that there was black freedman and also some African Americans who were slaver owners themselves.


[14-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure


[14-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those were extremely rare cases.


[14-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were free blakks in Haiti too, some of them quite rich.


[14-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucked up people exist everywhere


[14-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were utterly forced by the societal systems to turn on their brethren or lose their stature.


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah Native Americans also sometime had slaves, they were trying to be like the whites that colonized them hoping they wouldn't forece them off their land if they acted european enough


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a while in the Haitian slave revolt, the very generals of the revolt offered a peace deal whereby all their soldiers went right bakk into slavery.


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Sunnyside#3103
uh those african slave owners weren't forced into owning slaves. they went into it because they wanted to.


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that **wasn't enuff to appeal to the white leadership**.


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
People aren't just forced by putting a literal gun to their head.


[14-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society is built around forcing people without a gun to everyone's head all the time.


[14-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
part of why some Navajo join the confederacy, they were hoping the new government would actually uphold the treaties it made


[14-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't.


[14-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
A victorious/prosperious Confederacy would've likely not even allowed reservations.


[14-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
well no but they didn't know that and the Union didn't either


[14-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well reservations hasn't done them much favor so maybe none would've been better in the long run


[14-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, they would've been enslaved.


[14-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i disagree


[14-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Confederacy was literally built around enslaving non-whites.


[14-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you think they would grant full citizenship to natives?


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
actually no they weren't. that was just one aspect of their policy


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude, the south hated natives _a lot_


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
they weren't a single issue nation


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, the classic "slavery was just a tiny piece of the Confederacy"


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Provide a source, now.


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My great grandfather was paid in land to move from mississippi to texas specifically to hunt down natives


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
the confederacy evcen if it won would've collapsed anyway they were trying to maintain the plantaion slave system and insdrialization is just too powerful to economically


[14-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every acre my family owns was paid for in scalps


[14-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was in the late 19th century


[14-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/causes-of-the-civil-war/


[14-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After the civil war


[14-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
`The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.

Another factor was territorial expansion.

The South wished to take slavery into the western territories, while the North was committed to keeping them open to white labor alone.`


[14-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"The South" would've absolutely massacred whatever native americans remained if they couldn't enslave them all


[14-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC, California's entry was one of the bigger things that pissed off the South


[14-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/government-during-the-war/
here's a abridge version of goverment policies in both the north and south

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Government During the War


[14-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It meant that states were no longer being divided up.


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Prior to secession, the South had resisted policies that could hurt the plantation economy."


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plantations relied on slavery.


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"In March 1861, the Confederate Constitution was adopted; this document placed strong emphasis on the rights of individual member states, and explicitly protected the institution of slavery."
Slavery.


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything else is about the Union.


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Honahue#0656
>states rights
states rights to own slave


[14-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
What part isn't about slavery?


[14-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
it's 100% about slavery


[14-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
they were trying to preserve the econimics based on slavery


[14-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not all plantations had slaves.


[14-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
some did and some didn't


[14-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the "a few exceptions existed so it's not about the thing that covers over 90%" argument.


[14-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
slaves were expensive by the 1860s so only the more wealthy plantations still had them


[14-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit


[14-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
32 percent of white families had slaves by then.


[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's way more than just the "wealthy"


[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people in the South *weren't* wealthy.


[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
source please


[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Honahue#0656
slaves were always more expensive then indentured suvents but thats cause IS's had a 7 year contract slaves were not just their life but their children


[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery

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Find out the truth behind five common myths or misunderstandings about slavery in the United States.
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[14-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which got it from the 1860 census


[14-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Honahue#0656
your grandpa buys some slaves and you could own their grand children


[14-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
50% in Mississippi?


[14-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn


[14-Jun-20 08:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Have you seen the video that how some California people argue against masks wearing?


[14-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[14-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Idiots.


[14-Jun-20 08:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I feel my IQ is pushed to the ground and raped in turns


[14-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Someone sarcastically said people should carry brooms to scare people to stay six feet away but I agree


[14-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A sharpened stick could work better though


[14-Jun-20 08:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a bladed hula hoop might be mroe effective


[14-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen videos of Karens _crying_ about how masks dehumanize people because they can't see the fake smiles anymore


[14-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one cared who I was until I put on the mask


[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As well as screaming about how _surgical masks_ don't let them breathe and they drown in CO2


[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon >>2340882


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[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But we're breathing in our own carbon dioxide and the masks make it hard to scream and have tantrums towards reatil managers!"


[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_Surgical masks_


[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] jlun2#8758
just put emojis on them


[14-Jun-20 08:08 AM] jlun2#8758
now he's smiling
is it karen enough now


[14-Jun-20 08:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jun-20 08:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Black (changeling) lives matter!


[14-Jun-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon just remember, 40%


[14-Jun-20 08:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-videos-walking-unsteadily-west-point-ramp-2020-6

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[14-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[14-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
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[14-Jun-20 09:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i support that name change honestly, when i think lynch, i don;t think john lynch


[14-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Sunnyside#3103
when i think of lynch I think of the gen13 leader who's name is lynch


[14-Jun-20 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that name is also not well known or taught in history classes in school


[14-Jun-20 09:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which makes the naming even mroe unfortunate


[14-Jun-20 09:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 guys named lynch are also credited with coining the term for the act of lynching


[14-Jun-20 09:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Charles lynch and william lynch


[14-Jun-20 09:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Charles lynch was the most likely of the 2 to start it given the time frame


[14-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you know if people stopped using the word lynching and used the proper word. hanging that term would die out.'


[14-Jun-20 09:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hanging is the end result not the act itself


[14-Jun-20 09:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Lynching is typically hanging but can be many other forms of mob violence induced death or injury


[14-Jun-20 09:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such  as being tied to the back of a moving vehicle/animal and dragged behind it


[14-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having that particular term is really important to encapsulate the idea.


[14-Jun-20 09:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m pretty sure quite a few lynchings resulted in drawing and quarterings


[14-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to encapsulate the idea to fight the practice.


[14-Jun-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lynch mobs will still happen without a word to describe what they do properly.


[14-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/14/us/atlanta-protests-rayshard-brooks-sunday/index.html

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[14-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[14-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Justified?


[14-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
lol no, it's a tazer, wtf is he gonna do with a tazer


[14-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
> Me: I need to buy a snickers bar.
> 
> Clerk: ok that’ll be $4,325.67.
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> That’s the American healthcare system.

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[14-Jun-20 01:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Correct me  if I'm wrong, but that tazer he had was already deployed, wasn't it?


[14-Jun-20 01:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Unless he also stole a new cartridge (which he didn't), the worst he could do with the thing was throw it at someone


[14-Jun-20 01:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He insulted an officer's honour, wingbeat


[14-Jun-20 01:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A mortal offense


[14-Jun-20 01:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That just made me connect a whole bunch of dots (including a notorious for-profit prison) and think that maybe one major step we can take in police reform is to change the uniforms to be hot pink


[14-Jun-20 01:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I think he shoot that taser at 0.47 and officer shoot him back with a gun


[14-Jun-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
what


[14-Jun-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude was running away _and_ being shot with tasers


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes which didnt affect him at all


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How does he pull off the ninja move of shooting at the people chasing him with a taser _backwards_ while running away


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If the taser they shot _him_ with wasn't effective


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just watch that video dude


[14-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How suddenly _his_ taser was upgraded to a lethal weapon


[14-Jun-20 01:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
0.46-0.47 there is some kind of flash


[14-Jun-20 01:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no


[14-Jun-20 01:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
by that point there were already shots fired


[14-Jun-20 01:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
no wingbeat


[14-Jun-20 01:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd bet his hand going up was an instinctive reaction


[14-Jun-20 01:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
0.44-0.47 cop using his taser


[14-Jun-20 01:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're trying awfully hard to justify someone shooting someone else in the back as they're running away


[14-Jun-20 01:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im not trying to justify anyone


[14-Jun-20 01:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone whose apparent crime was... sleeping in their car


[14-Jun-20 01:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[14-Jun-20 01:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
totes trustworthy officer testimony


[14-Jun-20 01:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, there'd be crime scene evidence on whether or not he actually fired the taser


[14-Jun-20 01:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause there'd be confetti with a serial number all over the spot where it was deployed


[14-Jun-20 01:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that's *irrelevant* because even according to this, they opened fire on him on the basis that it was *pointed* at them


[14-Jun-20 01:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He had "a weapon"


[14-Jun-20 01:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Free kill


[14-Jun-20 01:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably pissed off that this guy they'd been hassling for half an hour wasn't actually guilty of anything and wasn't "compliant", escalated into physical violence, then got a semi when they reacted just as they'd hoped and had an excuse to shoot a moving target


[14-Jun-20 01:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just like in the movies


[14-Jun-20 01:59 PM] Crow#5457
@Smug Trixie, that flash is the taser that the cop dropped as he was pulling out his gun


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think electrify means the white flash in his hand


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It takes two to turn something intro physical violence tho


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is just...the security cam footage of the taser catching light


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
what the fuck does that even mean


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
classic victim blaming


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What it means is he's blaming the victim


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What the hell are you trying to say here


[14-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"it takes two to get raped"


[14-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Raped is not equal being detained


[14-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[14-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Crow#5457
being shot*


[14-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, it's pretty damn near close


[14-Jun-20 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not seeing any flashing that would indicate a taser being used, they're equipped with flashlights


[14-Jun-20 02:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
When you say "detained" it sounds like you're imagining a bunch of people standing around not letting the guy walk off, like telling a dog "stay." Not harassing a guy for an hour, forcing him to do things, wrestling him to the ground, and general assault and battery...on the grounds that he might be drunk


[14-Jun-20 02:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh and yeah, killing him


[14-Jun-20 02:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At what point in this scenario does the victim do anything to "turn it" into physical violence? Did he whisper their sleeper agent killphrase?


[14-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Welp thats how US police works,they tell u something and you just do it unless you wanted to be wrestled to the ground


[14-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hah


[14-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you do, and another officer tells you something else at the same time


[14-Jun-20 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Doesn't even  have to be another officer


[14-Jun-20 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Doesn't even have to be conflicting, either


[14-Jun-20 02:10 PM] Crow#5457
also, that's a lesser form of victim blaming


[14-Jun-20 02:11 PM] Crow#5457
"just let it happen"


[14-Jun-20 02:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The bar for entry on "resisting arrest" needs to be changed to something a little better than a game of simon says


[14-Jun-20 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in fact, however you define it, some level of resisting should be *expected* during an arrest


[14-Jun-20 02:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[14-Jun-20 02:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If it were up to me to decide, resisting arrest wouldn't even be applicable until you get to the point where it's some other charge instead - like a cop knocked out cold, or a high-speed vehicular chase the wrong way down a highway, etc


[14-Jun-20 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, resisting arrest gets used for random bullshit like not immediately complying with orders


[14-Jun-20 02:19 PM] Crow#5457
or running away before being detained


[14-Jun-20 02:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A cop catching an elbow in the stomach while trying to handcuff someone should just be considered one of the occupational hazards of being a cop


[14-Jun-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://atlantablackstar.com/2020/03/20/stop-stop-stop-sacramento-deputies-take-down-arrest-black-man-only-to-realize-theyve-got-the-wrong-guy/

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[14-Jun-20 02:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This guy


[14-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was minding his own business


[14-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When two armed thugs point guns at him and demand he give up


[14-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which he does


[14-Jun-20 02:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, think about what nurses have to deal with when they've got someone coding with a seizure - and they work in a field where if you raise the bars on the side of the bed without a good reason you can get in real trouble for doing that


[14-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And one kicks him in the back


[14-Jun-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And, surprise surprise, he wasn't the guy they were looking for


[14-Jun-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But since they'd already assaulted him and illegally detained him


[14-Jun-20 02:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The arrested him for resisting arrest


[14-Jun-20 02:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
After brutalizing and kidnapping him


[14-Jun-20 02:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You know, just cop things


[14-Jun-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_escape#Punishment

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[14-Jun-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
> In Mexico, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Austria, the philosophy of the law holds that it is human nature to want to escape. In those countries, escapees who do not break any other laws are not charged and no extra time is added to their sentence.


[14-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Crow#5457
I knew about germany, but not the others


[14-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Crow#5457
though in mexico, prison guards are allowed to shoot prisoners attempting escape


[14-Jun-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
and it's illegal if prison officials aid in the escape


[14-Jun-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1265708807071698945

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[14-Jun-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
another angle on the arrest of that dude getting shielded by his grandma


[14-Jun-20 02:47 PM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Jun-20 02:48 PM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Jun-20 02:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes. ScottBravoFan appears to be implying that gun reform is inherently bad


[14-Jun-20 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
>bigmemes.funnyjunk.com


[14-Jun-20 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[14-Jun-20 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdBnXG-fm8M

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[14-Jun-20 02:50 PM] Crow#5457
found the body cam footage, apparently took the guy 6 minutes to get out of his car, cop immediately pulls gun


[14-Jun-20 02:53 PM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
it also showed the dashcam footage, but it didn't show when the alleged rolling stop occurred


[14-Jun-20 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
by the dashcam's own timestamp, it took 14 seconds between the cop turning on his lights and the driver pulling into his driveway


[14-Jun-20 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
that's hardly a chase


[14-Jun-20 02:56 PM] Crow#5457
and definitely not worth a gun


[14-Jun-20 02:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, so we need to gut the police system and start from scratch, but does anyone have a good plan for what to do with all the disenfranchised ex-cops who get fired


[14-Jun-20 02:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, that's how you get nazis


[14-Jun-20 02:58 PM] Crow#5457
apparently a lot of the police that were let go when the camden PD was disbanded were rehired after going through the new training and vetting processes


[14-Jun-20 02:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We're already seeing that yeah


[14-Jun-20 02:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but without a decent vetting process all that's happening and going to happen is that cops who quit reforming departments in protest are going to go to abusive-friendly places like Florida etc


[14-Jun-20 03:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and if there are no such things, well, now you've got a bunch of self-righteous and angry ex-cops who feel like their profession is necessary, justified, and *unfairly destroyed* with nothing to fall back on


[14-Jun-20 03:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they don't vanish into thin air. We can't brush this under the rug and claim victory even if we did manage to give POST licensing some teeth and systematically overhaul police nationwide


[14-Jun-20 03:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So, yes, you could shunt them into retraining as a requirement to come back to the force and not actually fire them unless they flunk out, but you also need to have a plan for the dropouts


[14-Jun-20 03:05 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://thegrio.com/2020/06/14/rayshard-brooks-atlanta-officer-fired/

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[14-Jun-20 03:05 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
As if Floyd wasn’t enough


[14-Jun-20 03:06 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part about the protests afterwards was that they burned down the wendy's :(


[14-Jun-20 03:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not that it justifies this or anything, but do we know if that wendy's was owned by the franchise that donated a couple million to Trump?


[14-Jun-20 03:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it'd be awfully poetic if it was


[14-Jun-20 03:08 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1265708807071698945
 

And they complain when we call them facist afterwards

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Terrifying moments for a young Black man and his family in Texas, as numerous cops point guns on him and then assault his 90-year-old grandmother. 

His alleged offense: rolling through a stop sign. ⁠ https://t.co/WdxwFeX1y0
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[14-Jun-20 03:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-franchise-owner-not-wendys-ceo-gave-400-k-trump-2020/5342047002/

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Fact check: No, Wendy's CEO didn't give to Trump's campaign, but a ...
A claim that the CEO of Wendy's donated to President Donald Trump's campaign isn't entirely true. A franchise owner did, but not the Wendy's Co. CEO.
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[14-Jun-20 03:12 PM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony, it wasn't the owner of wendy's that did it, but the CEO of the company that owns the franchise


[14-Jun-20 03:12 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
These aren’t police, these are uniformed gorillas, the types that attack even when unprovoked like in the zoo when they leap at the window at any passerby


[14-Jun-20 03:14 PM] Crow#5457
> The claim that the CEO of Wendy's — as well as the the post claiming the CEO of the company that owns Wendy's, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut — donated $400,000 to Trump's re-election campaign is FALSE. The CEO of MUY! Companies, which operates locations of those fast-food companies, did donate to Trump. But James Bodenstedt does not own Wendy's, Taco Bell or Pizza Hut; he owns franchises of those restaurants.


[14-Jun-20 03:14 PM] Crow#5457
franchise ownership is weird


[14-Jun-20 03:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes


[14-Jun-20 03:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is what I said


[14-Jun-20 03:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or what I meant to say, rather; I know the difference between franchise owners and wendy's corporate


[14-Jun-20 03:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's why I have no issue going to the taco bell in my area 'cause I know it's run by a different franchise


[14-Jun-20 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
I don't really understand how a company owns a company that owns a franchise


[14-Jun-20 03:21 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the company just supplies the people who runs specific locations of the franchise?


[14-Jun-20 03:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a corporate structure


[14-Jun-20 03:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You get a bunch of chain restaurants in an area under your franchise, and then you build regional managers on top of that to coordinate the management between them and handle all the big-picture stuff


[14-Jun-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to figure out what "MUY! Companies" is, it seems like they just run certain locations, but have nothing to do with the brand itself


[14-Jun-20 03:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
right


[14-Jun-20 03:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're the ones that decide if "promotion may not be available in your area" is or is not something they want to do


[14-Jun-20 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so any MUY! Co. wendy's is going to run the same promotion


[14-Jun-20 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but if you find one that's doing something different, it's probably run by a different franchise


[14-Jun-20 03:23 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, apparently muy companies is only based in texas and new mexico, the wendy's was in atlanta, georgia


[14-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Crow#5457
so it wouldn't have been one run by them


[14-Jun-20 03:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a bit more than that https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=18Dow41C9W3sb5x4ImfqAW4wkVX2WQlWa&ll=37.48193963610314%2C-89.99892385&z=5

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MUY! Company Franchise Locations - Google My Maps
Since 2018, James Bodenstedt, the CEO of Muy Companies has donated over $440,000 to Trump's reelection campaign. 

As of June 5, 2020, MUY no longer publicly lists their franchise locations. Here is a copy of their list taken from Archived copies of their sites on June 2, 2020...
https://www.google.com/maps/d/thumbnail?mid=18Dow41C9W3sb5x4ImfqAW4wkVX2WQlWa


[14-Jun-20 03:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but yeah, safe to say it wasn't one of theirs


[14-Jun-20 03:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if it had been a pizza hut, maybe different story


[14-Jun-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wendy's/@33.7218551,-84.3925946,235m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swendy's!3m4!1s0x88f503a939213cf1:0x5cd9a60c89a77821!8m2!3d33.7218328!4d-84.3922304

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[14-Jun-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
I think it was this one


[14-Jun-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
this is the only one listed as "temporarily closed"


[14-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it is


[14-Jun-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
that empty spot to the west is way out of date, there's a gas station there now


[14-Jun-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
you can see the gas station on street view


[14-Jun-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200613224333-01-atlanta-wendys-fire-exlarge-169.jpg

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[14-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Crow#5457
can see it on this aerial image too


[14-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=khQpT_1587449594

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Liveleak.com - Sacramento Police Department Release Body Cam and Da...
The Sacramento Police Department has released the body camera footage..
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[14-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CgHH5_1588969222

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Liveleak.com - Las Vegas police shoots suspect armed with a sword
The Metropolitan Police Department on Thursday identified the officer..
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[14-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
some dude who claims to be a cop is comparing these videos to the videos of cops brutalizing random people for no reason


[14-Jun-20 03:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jun-20 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
how do you explain to a cop that they don't have the right to summarily execute someone for not complying with orders


[14-Jun-20 04:10 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't, you just fire him


[14-Jun-20 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], do you remember that comic or meme or something that shows what cops identify as guns, and it had random stuff like a phone, a hammer, etc?


[14-Jun-20 04:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I do, but doubt I can find it


[14-Jun-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.newsweek.com/punisher-police-blue-lives-matter-skull-logo-1449272


[14-Jun-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1512286/punisher-skull.png

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[14-Jun-20 04:19 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, the cop linked this image and asked me to identify which one was real https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/721728048998776902/image0.jpg

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[14-Jun-20 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
I identified the left one as real instantly, he goes on to claim I want a world with lots of dead cops and rampant crime


[14-Jun-20 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
... and then he went on to say "maybe if we were a homogeneous society it might work"


[14-Jun-20 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
guy's a fucking neo-nazi


[14-Jun-20 04:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You can identify a gun on static close up picture,now try same thing irl and with distance like 15 meters


[14-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Also don't forget that If you guess wrong you might get shot and die


[14-Jun-20 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know, maybe it doesn't matter whether or not you can identify a gun pointed at you


[14-Jun-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
... I'm not sure if the fact that you didn't identify the wild leap in logic is supposed to be funny or sad


[14-Jun-20 04:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, yes, I'm not even going to try to unpack the assumption that rampant crime is addressed by getting into gunfights


[14-Jun-20 04:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and "homogeneous society" is such a non sequitur that I don't even think there *is* a logical connection


[14-Jun-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
he means white


[14-Jun-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
he added on "BuT tHaT's RaCiSt" afterwards


[14-Jun-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
basically implying that it's okay for random white people to go around carrying guns and pointing them at officers


[14-Jun-20 04:35 PM] byte[]#2610
pointing guns at people who are not pointing guns at you is generally not ok


[14-Jun-20 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, conservatism seems like it's all about bringing up any insane argument to justify a shitty, illogical hypothetical that would never make sense in any real situation


[14-Jun-20 04:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Jun-20 04:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[14-Jun-20 04:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Frankly, as far as threat assessment goes, how likely is it that someone with the intention of drawing and actually firing on a cop would hesitate before firing? That is, if you're a cop and suddenly there's a gun pointed at you like the picture, if you have time to register "gun" and not "shots fired" you have the opportunity to de-escalate


[14-Jun-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPj0C1q0F-g

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Murder suspect surprises cop with knife
A suspect wanted for a homicide pulled a knife on Ohio police officer Joshua Hilling after he stopped him for illegally walking on a highway. Prosecutors praised Hilling's "incredible restraint" citing his bodycam video.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bPj0C1q0F-g/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Jun-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
this is a good response to a weapon imo


[14-Jun-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
even if the guy is obviously suicidal


[14-Jun-20 04:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it may be a fraction of a second but I believe a pointed/drawn weapon should be handled differently from a weapon in use


[14-Jun-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
only mistake I could see the officer made was not ordering him to drop the knife


[14-Jun-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
but that's a small mistake in the heat of the moment


[14-Jun-20 04:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I never know our government has ever ban any kind of clothes or languages, only banned some food from rare animals and dog meat... Wtf are these "Shanghai people" independent for


[14-Jun-20 04:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what do you know about the uyghurs


[14-Jun-20 04:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I know some Uyghurs in Xinjiang want to independent


[14-Jun-20 04:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least this is reasonable because Uyghurs are minorities


[14-Jun-20 04:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But Shanghai wtf


[14-Jun-20 04:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50511063

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Data leak details China's 'brainwashing system'
Leaked documents show new evidence of China's systematic brainwashing of Uighur and other detainees.
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[14-Jun-20 04:51 PM] Crow#5457
from november 2019


[14-Jun-20 04:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe that's why "terrorism attacks" in Xinjiang is much less these years


[14-Jun-20 05:02 PM] Crow#5457
ugh, I'm incredibly annoyed that I can't find the meme thing that shows everything that cops see as guns


[14-Jun-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0506559ad2ee0c1d3a709c6267607b07-c

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[14-Jun-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
this is the closest I've found, but it's for journalists


[14-Jun-20 05:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The Constitution of China is against religions, so religious people can't enter the party or the government. They can't hold rituals or give religious speech in nonreligious areas, and must send their children to schools that teach science instead of religions.


[14-Jun-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272163886330867713

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This is the best narration ever. #TrumpIsUnwell https://t.co/EypABCme0d
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[14-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457 (pinned)
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[14-Jun-20 05:05 PM] illumnious#7938
I know that one


[14-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
could've sworn there was one with a phone


[14-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
but whatevs


[14-Jun-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[14-Jun-20 05:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Jun-20 05:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Homosexuality is still described as a kind of mental disease in my college textbook


[14-Jun-20 05:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because it's printed in 2008


[14-Jun-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
the CCP is a kind of mental disease

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[14-Jun-20 05:15 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That book also says bestiality and crossdressing are mental disease


[14-Jun-20 05:16 PM] PwnyPony#6185
makes it easier to lock people up if you class everything as a mental disease


[14-Jun-20 05:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So I'll have three mental disease together if I do sex in my futsuit


[14-Jun-20 05:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Furry isn't bestiality.
unless you are admitting to something else 🚔


[14-Jun-20 05:17 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jun-20 05:18 PM] illumnious#7938
haha https://twitter.com/aubreygroves/status/1272177794655547393/photo/1

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Happy Birthday Mr President @realDonaldTrump Just wanted to take a moment to celebrate with you #TrumpWearsAdultDiapers
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[14-Jun-20 05:18 PM] illumnious#7938
stupidass


[14-Jun-20 05:18 PM] illumnious#7938
dumbass


[14-Jun-20 05:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only boomers will think crossdressing is disease


[14-Jun-20 05:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Youths love crossdressing


[14-Jun-20 05:20 PM] illumnious#7938
I wonder if he regret what he said back in 2009


[14-Jun-20 05:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Even our Chinese Communism Youths League is posting crossdressing videos as propaganda


[14-Jun-20 05:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Literally one of the defences from a conservative party member was that her kids "sat on that statue" :angrybirdhorse:


[14-Jun-20 05:22 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"Mein Kampf was a good read"
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_24/3387301/200611-baden-powell-mc-1427_72675f6530c34b480dda7198f26e39e5.fit-760w.JPG

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[14-Jun-20 05:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why are there so many statues on the street in America


[14-Jun-20 05:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
This is UK.
The statues are usually of wealthy people that owned a lot of the area the statue is in.


[14-Jun-20 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jun-20 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[14-Jun-20 05:25 PM] PwnyPony#6185
bruhh


[14-Jun-20 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
turns out it's fake


[14-Jun-20 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
@KadeemMiller6 is not a real account


[14-Jun-20 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
well, it's real, but a bot account https://twitter.com/KadeemMiller6

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[14-Jun-20 05:30 PM] Crow#5457
joined june 2020


[14-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/user/TimesUpMouthShut/

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[14-Jun-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
also from a bot/troll account


[14-Jun-20 05:36 PM] Crow#5457
seems like a decent copypasta format though


[14-Jun-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
I like how the seattle subreddit didn't fall for the bait, but the CapHillAutonomousZone subreddit bought it hook, line, and sinker


[14-Jun-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/h8n7ep/psa_lock_up_your_tents_before_leaving_it_do_not/> vs <https://www.reddit.com/r/CapHillAutonomousZone/comments/h8n6ad/psa_locksecure_your_tents_before_leaving_it_carry/>


[14-Jun-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/13/california-officials-probe-2-separate-hanging-deaths-black-men/3185833001/

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Authorities investigating 2 separate deaths of Black men found hang...
The deaths in Palmdale and Victorville, California, occurred more than a week apart, officials said.
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[14-Jun-20 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
welp


[14-Jun-20 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
> More than 100,000 people signed an online petition demanding a full investigation into Fuller’s death. Community members confronted city officials at a contentious news briefing Friday, asking why they were quick to label his death a suicide and demanding an independent autopsy.


[14-Jun-20 06:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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STERIS fights efforts to repair medical equipment, sends iFixit cea...
FDA study quoted: https://www.fda.gov/media/113431/download
EFF's response to STERIS' letter: https://www.eff.org/document/letter-eff-steris-behalf-ifixit-5-26-2020
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[14-Jun-20 06:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang wait, they're fine with crossdressing ? neat


[14-Jun-20 07:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Crow "homogenous society" is at the core of what conservatives believe. They don't think a society with a diversity of opinions *is really a society at all*.


[14-Jun-20 07:25 PM] wren#0114
Interesting take on the development of tribalism and polarization in politics:
https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/08/story-of-us.html

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[14-Jun-20 07:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is in complete contrast to liberals, who value view diversity.


[14-Jun-20 07:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[14-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
so did anything come of tesla blatantly defying california state orders to stay shut down?


[14-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Crow#5457
or does tesla get off because it's owned by a rich dude


[14-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Empathy isn't really unique to humans btw, it's an emotional deal just like the others.


[14-Jun-20 07:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just one you only find in social animals, and generally very restricted.


[14-Jun-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
For example, a lionness will only care about her offspring and other lions.


[14-Jun-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
This can cause problems when one loses a cub and decides to forcibly adopt a young Gazelle...


[14-Jun-20 07:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
(other lions will happily eat it)


[14-Jun-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure that anything did come of it


[14-Jun-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
which means that rich people can get away with breaking the law without consequences


[14-Jun-20 07:40 PM] byte[]#2610
but you already knew that


[14-Jun-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/14/ben-carson-america-grow-up-317451

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U.S. needs to stop being offended about everything, Ben Carson says
“We’ve reached a point in our society where we dissect everything and try to ascribe some nefarious notion to it.”
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[14-Jun-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
someone hasn't heard (or is willfully ignorant of) the southern strategy


[14-Jun-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
he's republican so prob latter


[14-Jun-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
> “We’ve reached a point in our society where we dissect everything and try to ascribe some nefarious notion to it,” replied Carson, the only black member of Trump’s Cabinet. “We need to move away from being offended by everything, of going through history and looking at everything, you know, of renaming everything.”
> 
> He continued, “Some of our prestigious universities, have a relationship with the slave trade. Should we go and rename those universities? It really gets to a point of being ridiculous after a while. And, you know, we’re going to have to grow up as a society."


[14-Jun-20 07:59 PM] green_byte#1188
Seems fair


[14-Jun-20 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
by that logic, the US should also give up its racism (ideologically, the confederacy won the civil war, even if the union officially won)


[14-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
I agree with Carson


[14-Jun-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't


[14-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Crow#5457
statues erected in the 1920's of racists and slaveowners have no place in modern society


[14-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are documented cases of Republicans deliberately drafting laws in bakkrooms with racist intent and then passing them off as neutral.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
People need to be looking for ulterior motives.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because there are ulterior motives.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
perhaps you didn't notice, but it's a strawman argument


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
> We need to move away from being offended by everything, of going through history and looking at everything, you know, of renaming everything.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
not everything is a conspiracy


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't mean we should all turn a fukking blind eye.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop burning your strawman.


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
nobody needs to ascribe an ulterior motive to the institutions of racism and slavery for what they were


[14-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
tbh there's nothing that humans do that don't have ulterior motives, even if those motives are ultimately to the benefit of most people


[14-Jun-20 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
morally repugnant


[14-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Carson's implicit argument isn't that, byte


[14-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's that liberals need to stop looking for racism.


[14-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's that racism is already gone, we had a blakk guy in office, you know!


[14-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the main Republican argument against stopping racism.


[14-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
They say it's already stopped, there's no need to look behind the curtain.


[14-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
(behind the curtain is the ghost of the Confederacy)


[14-Jun-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
another common one: democrats make everything about race, so they are the ones who are actually perpetuating racism


[14-Jun-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
because they refuse to ignore it


[14-Jun-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/images/2366146#comments

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[14-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what's the image link


[14-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and actually byte there's some merit to that particular argument.


[14-Jun-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
there would be if widespread systemic racism didn't still exist


[14-Jun-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
How come the right is allowed to scream about "leftist agenda" for everything while every time Nebbie makes a point it gets shot down as "not everything is a conspiracy"


[14-Jun-20 08:08 PM] byte[]#2610
if you argue that it doesn't, well then I guess we have to start there, don't we


[14-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Sunnyside#3103
we'll have to table that for later i'm about to eat


[14-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Some of our universities have a relationship with the slave trade should we rename them"


[14-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes. Are you stupid?


[14-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up what the founders of Brown did.


[14-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just part of the whole "no discourse on anything should be allowed" thing


[14-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's absurd what they truly want


[14-Jun-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
considering ben carson's stance on police racism, he really shouldn't get a say on any of this


[14-Jun-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-said-he-experienced-real-systemic-racism-growing-up-2020-6

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[14-Jun-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He "rose above it" which means to acknowledge it still exists might put his "rise above it" in jeopardy and make him vulnerable to his "colleagues"


[14-Jun-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's eating the boot for dinner to avoid the fall from grace


[14-Jun-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/national-debt-total-trillion-record-federal-government-coronavirus-spending-2020-6

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The government embarked on massive spending to keep businesses and people afloat during the economic shutdown caused by the coronavirus pandemic.
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[14-Jun-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
dw the zoomers will pay for it 😜 👌


[14-Jun-20 09:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/14/trump-nfl-nascar-kneeling-crusade-316528

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Both are vowing to stand up for racial justice in a way that could challenge the president’s relationship with each organization.
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[14-Jun-20 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/eolu2av5cw451.jpg

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[14-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oooh https://28oa9i1t08037ue3m1l0i861-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/37.3-motte-examples.png

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[14-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen this a lot.


[14-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good to hav a term and visual metaphor for it.


[14-Jun-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
"Motte"?


[14-Jun-20 09:46 PM] jlun2#8758
peasants vs the elite?


[14-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Motte and bailey


[14-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The raised portion is the motte


[14-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
the lower portion is the bailey


[14-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
when the bailey is attakked, you retreat to the motte.

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[14-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] it's the most common conservative-used fallacy in this channel.


[14-Jun-20 09:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
would not have understood this without that explanation.


[14-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone just switches out their argument for a different, but similar one that's harder to refute or even agreed on by both parties.


[14-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a much better analogy than "iron manning"


[14-Jun-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
THINK OF THE KIDDIES


[14-Jun-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
children ruin everything


[14-Jun-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
time to vote against them


[14-Jun-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
"stop building cancer covid 5G towers. THINK OF THE CHILDREN"


[14-Jun-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Think of the children, support birth control today!


[14-Jun-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/14/876584284/fired-florida-data-scientist-launches-a-coronavirus-dashboard-of-her-own

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Rebekah Jones says she was fired after refusing to manipulate COVID-19 data. Her new portal is a reflection of how contentious coronavirus data has become amid battles over the states' reopening.
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[14-Jun-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Rebekah Jones was fired last month from her job at the Florida Department of Health, where she helped create a data portal about the state's COVID-19 cases.
> 
> "When I went to show them what the report card would say for each county, among other things, they asked me to delete the report card because it showed that no counties, pretty much, were ready for reopening," she says. "And they didn't want to draw attention to that."
> 
> Jones says a superior asked her to open up the data and alter the numbers so that the state's coronavirus positivity rating would change from 18% to 10% — and the state would appear to meet its target to reopen.
> 
> She says she refused to do that manipulation and others she was asked to, and she was fired on May 18.


[14-Jun-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jun-20 10:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/melania-trump-is-exactly-like-her-husband-in-character-and-priorities-columnist/?utm_source=push_notifications

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The Art of Her Deal, a book about first lady Melania Trump, will be released Tuesday and teasers about it have already turned headlines into hashtags. But Washington Post columnist Karen Tumulty wrote that it has become obvious that Mrs. Trump doesn’t want any part of the “Fre...
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[14-Jun-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/dansinker/status/1272143037070802944

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💀 damned sinker 💀 (@dansinker)
https://twitter.com/dansinker/status/1272143037070802944
The cops can't stop killing Black people even when the entire world is paying attention. This is them on their best behavior.
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[15-Jun-20 12:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gianno-caldwell-chicago-violence-mayor

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Gianno Caldwell calls out Chicago mayor for abandoning African-Amer...
Fox News political analyst and Chicago native Gianno Caldwell called out the Democratic mayor of his hometown for abandoning the city's African-American residents, after Chicago experienced it's single most violent day in six decades, amid protests and riots in the wake of the...
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[15-Jun-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348256609363034114/721843422675337286/unknown.png

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[15-Jun-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sorry, what?


[15-Jun-20 12:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://wgme.com/news/nation-world/christopher-columbus-statue-beheaded-in-boston

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Christopher Columbus statue beheaded in Boston
BOSTON (WGME) -- A Christopher Columbus statue was beheaded in Boston. The statue in Christopher Columbus Park on Atlantic Avenue in the North End was surrounded by crime scene tape early Wednesday morning as the head lay on the ground, according to WBZ-TV. It's not the first ...
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[15-Jun-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/502551-cotton-emerges-as-key-figure-in-base-renaming-fight

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Cotton emerges as key figure in base renaming fight
Sen.
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[15-Jun-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Cotton on Tuesday — just two days after the Times’s editorial page editor resigned over the op-ed — stood up in a Senate Republican lunch to caution colleagues that they need to proceed carefully on police reform and be sensitive to the life experiences of young black men.   
> 
> He warned colleagues that “young black men have a very different experience with law enforcement in this nation than white people and that’s their impression and experience and we need to be sensitive to that and do all we can to change it,” according to Politico, which first reported the comments.
> 
> Cotton then played a central role in modifying an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act to set up a process to rename military installations named after Confederate generals such as Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Hood in Texas and Camp Beauregard in Louisiana, according to Senate sources.


[15-Jun-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/502659-former-defense-secretary-gates-at-least-trump-hasnt-started-any-new-wars

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Former Defense Secretary Gates: 'At least' Trump 'hasn't started an...
Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Sunday offered measured support for President Trump, noting that "at least" the president hasn't started a war and has funded the military.
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[15-Jun-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
great, he jinxed it


[15-Jun-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://gaetz.house.gov/media/hottakespress/breaking-gaetz-introducing-bill-requiring-us-soccer-stand-anthem-or-face

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Congressman Gaetz revealed on his podcast "Hot Takes with Matt Gaetz" today that he is drafting legislation compelling US Soccer to reverse the decision they made repealing Policy 604-1, which requires players to stand for the national anthem. “Today the news has me triggered,...
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[15-Jun-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/mobinfiltrator/status/1271432151142223872

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𝙿𝚊𝚞𝚕 𝙼𝚊𝚗𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚐 (@mobinfiltrator)
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Want to know why it’s so hard for #cops to be ‘good apples’...

It was 2007 and I was assisting a call with an officer I’d never met before. He was from another team working overtime. Right in front of me he broke a kids nose with a punch. The septum was clearly deviated and
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[15-Jun-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> BREAKING: Gaetz Introducing Bill Requiring US Soccer to Stand for Anthem or Face Financial Repercussions
why is this even a thing


[15-Jun-20 12:50 AM] jlun2#8758
who the hell is going "this politician will make our atheletes stand in an anthem, lets vote for him"


[15-Jun-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
matt gaetz is just another florida man


[15-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's trying really hard to be in the spotlight


[15-Jun-20 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We survived the last couple months without most of our major sports just fine. I say the US Soccer federation stand by their decision and take the hit


[15-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He _blatantly_ wants to run for president in the future


[15-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated; the presidential debates should have glasses of water, not bottles


[15-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Big, heavy, glasses of water


[15-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And some steps on the stage the candidates have to go up or down to get on the podium


[15-Jun-20 12:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even think they have to be heavy; I'm not convinced either candidate in this upcoming presidential debate is capable of drinking out of a glass


[15-Jun-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/3pagbwketv451


[15-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
"They're protecting the bulls with a TARP again"


[15-Jun-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.change.org/p/marty-walsh-replace-christopher-columbus-statue-with-the-route1-orange-dinosaur

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Sign the Petition
Replace Christopher Columbus Statue With The Route1 Orange Dinosaur
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[15-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking https://twitter.com/perlmutations/status/1272194628003872772

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Ron Perlman (@perlmutations)
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Yessir, so true! So rewarding playing assholes on tv. Tell me sir, how is it actually being one? https://t.co/8Yk4lXvyAI
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[15-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes:


[15-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He hasn't heard of acting because there are like four or five prominent conservative actors, who are all washed up and known only because of the oddity of them being conservative


[15-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woods, Voigt, Rosanne Barr, and uhhh


[15-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not why he said that shit.


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's strawmanning, Its.


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is he actually smart enough for that?


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is "Oh well you are all SJWs who think showing a racist villain is bad because it portrays it at all!"


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't smart.


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is looking at what's being said


[15-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
seeing "don't send a racist message"


[15-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
and only understanding it as "SHOWING RACISM BAD"


[15-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because he is incapable of understanding that a story can have these things called villains who we are not supposed to accept the existence of.


[15-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, the entire conservative worldview is **to accept that villains exist and disregard stopping them from existing**


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when a story says "this guy shouldn't exist", he doesn't get that.


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just sees it as story showing bad.


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he hears about a story with a hero who's a racist fukkwit being denigrated.


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of how Sarkeesian doesn't like showing villains that are misogynistic


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he just sees it as story showing bad.


[15-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't tell the difference between heros and villains, basically.


[15-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when he sees someone saying racism shouldn't exist, but who portrayed a racist villain, he goes YOU ARE BAD!


[15-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gaetz is _definitely_ aiming to be presidential candidate in the future


[15-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's trying so hard to be Trump 2.0


[15-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anita is who I would point out btw as being a "feminist conservative"


[15-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her whole worldview is based on there being a hierarchy


[15-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
she just thinks women should rule it.


[15-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
With men crushed under their heels.


[15-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
She is exactly what the more traditional sort fear.


[15-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their own philosophy with the targets swapped.


[15-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gaetz and Jordan will be destroyed in 2024 by Trump Jr. and Ivanka


[15-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anita's weird to me because she's got this weird pseudopacifism


[15-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's one of those people who believes "If women ran the world there would be no war"


[15-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's also a bit TERFy, because she thinks portrayals of women as violent are just "men in women's clothing"


[15-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Woods and Voigt are legit good actors. they aren't in enough stuff in my opinion.


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, it's just "femininity good, masculinity bad"


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's nothing else to it


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
violent women are bad because they're masculine


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
society is bad because it's masculine


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's her philosophy.


[15-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the TERF philosophy you'll often see on tumblr.


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does she realize femininity can only be defined by defining masculinity


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's not that self-aware.


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, I think you misunderstand


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
her issue isn't that masculinity exists


[15-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that people celebrate it.


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wants only feminitity celebrated, and masculinity demonized.


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But people celebrate femininity too?


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] ononim#8141

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[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
Absolutelly do not want to know why the hell it is trending here


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wants **ONLY** feminity celebrated


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
New twitter UI was a mistake


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
she wants people who say "it's okay to be male" thrown off cliffs


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's her philosophy.


[15-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wants you to play GTA


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
not be able to shoot women


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
only be able to shoot men


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And not play as a woman, I assume


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
when women die, bodies persist forever, creating a memory leak


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only a man killing men


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
and for you to only play a woman


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A violent woman to her is just a man


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
a woman who sits by and watches men die *en masse*


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
oh


[15-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know how The Doctor from Doctor Who treats his enemies?


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't shoot them, he just laffs as they explode after he sabotaged the machine.


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wants that.


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
She wants all media ever to be that, with the female Doctor.


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all the bad guys male.


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
She also doesn't think equal treatment is ever acceptable.


[15-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can hazard a guess, onon...


[15-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
She specifically states that it's bad because *historically* women were the oppressed party.


[15-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So to make up for it, women need special treatment etc.


[15-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I _love_ how she glosses over how until like the 1990s, the feminist movement was anti-LGBT+/anti-sex work/racist


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure she doesn't care that it was.


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anita's whole deal is she wants media controlled to denigrate men and maleness.


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"wtf why are there so many male mass shooters?"


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
>Trending in Russia
>Negros
>1,776 Tweets


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
:ponythinking:


[15-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's a lot of discussion about a random Philippine island


[15-Jun-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
Twitter new UI showing trends based on your geo location is the worst par t of it


[15-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the fundamental thing to get here is that bigots **don't understand** the idea of normal media portrayals.


[15-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't think it's okay to just tell it how it was and put a meta message about how bad that is.


[15-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They either want "how it was" amended to reflect their own ideas


[15-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
or there to be no meta message period.


[15-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can change location afaik


[15-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meta messages to them are tampering by LIBERAL ACTIVISM


[15-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And accurate history to them is only good when it aligns with what they want shown.


[15-Jun-20 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon you need to ahve an account


[15-Jun-20 01:52 AM] ononim#8141
And I am not giving my phone number to that shithole


[15-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ah


[15-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[15-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, what conservatives hate so much is


[15-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you show it from the perspective of the oppressed


[15-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
you are either going to show the parts they don't want shown


[15-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
or you are tampering with it with a meta thing


[15-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't mad that SJWs are shitting on their content (even tho that is happening too), they're mad that the narrative they want isn't being distributed.


[15-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, why does this guy want to play as a straight white male?


[15-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought he only cared about sexy women.


[15-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
broke: complaining about which hooman you can play as
toke:

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[15-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mentioned this before, he doesn't like furry stuff and sees it as leftist propaganda


[15-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, power fantasy


[15-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you not know how it works?


[15-Jun-20 02:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Why this game make me play a fucking pussy? I wanna play as a dog!


[15-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes I do, but I just assumed this guy was too sex-driven to want to see any men at all in anything


[15-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[15-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the protagonist is a PROJECTION


[15-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
an empty vessel


[15-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
you want the projection to be what you want to win and who you want to be.


[15-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideal protagonist for him is a guy with a massive cokk that rapes any woman he meets, and then is thanked for it.


[15-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ideal protagonist for Anita is a female Doctor.


[15-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Anita **loves** Beyond Good & Evil.


[15-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's been so long since I played that, I can't remember much about Jade


[15-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to.


[15-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just know she solves a lot of problems with a *camera*.


[15-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the TERF dream.


[15-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't she have a bunch of attacks


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but Anita was just willing to ignore that.


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He had a staff


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't actually *play* these games.


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And she killed people with it


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what's funny


[15-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The person who edits her videos makes around ten times what Anita does a month via Patreon


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People who said she was just merely a puppet for his views were correct.


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MacIntosh?


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Macarou#9574
Jonathan Macintosh, yeah. Doesn't he have his own channel though? Why does he need Anita?


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mouthpiece


[15-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same reason Disney needs the generic disney kid of the year I guess


[15-Jun-20 02:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
AssAssins Creed 4 BlackFlag.
Kenway is constantly flipping between being an asshole and the good guy.
Ok, ill free the slaves but I am not gonna be happy about it.


[15-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not sure how Anita (or Macintosh) are still relevant, haven't heard anything new about them in ages


[15-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Macarou#9574
I heard something happened with Anita, but I didn't care enough to look further


[15-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except for people reeeing that The Last of Us 2's director once praised her 6 years ago or something


[15-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They aren't, I just started talking about her in comparison to OAG


[15-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anita is a good particular to talk about for talking about tumblr and TERFS and SJUWs and conservatism that flips things genderwise.


[15-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
She has a series of videos going over what she wants.


[15-Jun-20 02:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Her ideal character is a piece of cloth that blows around in the wind.


[15-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Honahue#0656
I did that with Shepard in Mass Effect, Paragon for my crew Renegade for anyone else


[15-Jun-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Beyond Good and Evil was supposed to be getting a new game this generation but with PS5 and Xbox? so soon around the corner I guess hopes of that seem pretty much dead. I wonder if this the patriarchy doing.


[15-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
hoping to see gamers be mad about Bloodlines 2


[15-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Honahue#0656
last I knew you could choose your pronouns

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[15-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were mad about Animal Crossing so yeah


[15-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Didn't the North American version of AC *remove* the gendered titles


[15-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Also the TemTem discourse was hilarious


[15-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes it did


[15-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Another fun fact about NoA localizations


[15-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
With The Origami King, the Bomb-Omb partner is named "Bobby" in the English release


[15-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In Japan he's just  "Bomb-Omb"

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[15-Jun-20 02:26 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/12/lugansk-miners/

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[15-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MR7vDYorQ

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In Minneapolis 7 officers have just resigned and possible...
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[15-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Honahue#0656
awesome


[15-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Honahue#0656
remember that 50+ officers resigned not cause one of them pushed an old man down and cracked his skull but cause that officer that pushed an old man down and cracked his skull was going to face punishment


[15-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdpLv3RDhA

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[15-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Synfag#9241
so the police force is close to gone
what's next?


[15-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0OUsnaD0uc

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The Logic of Abolishing the Police
Ben Burgis, the author of Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left, evaluates the logic behind the various demands coming out of the protests around the murder of George Floyd. Should we abolish the police? Defund the police? Overthrow the value-form of capitalism? Find out.
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[15-Jun-20 02:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
HELLO THERE ZERO BOOKS READERS, IT'S Y'BOY BEN BURGISS HERE TO DO A LOGIC


[15-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Honahue#0656
he is frequently on Twitter but he's also over 40 so while I think it would be hilarious for him to do that I suspect he won't


[15-Jun-20 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
Whatever happened to that Zero Books series of videos where they had the guy who was supposed to be like, some couch potato bro type explain leftist and philosophical ideas in an almost casual and street-wise way?


[15-Jun-20 02:38 AM] AaronMk#4499
I forget the series, and the guy's name.


[15-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But he'd just like, sit on a couch or by a couch in an empty set room and be like, "Yo whaddup so yeah: how about we talk about the value form n' shit"


[15-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean for philosophy there's Rick Roderick and all his lectures are on youtube


[15-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
Yea


[15-Jun-20 02:39 AM] AaronMk#4499
But this was another thing Zero Books did.


[15-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Honahue#0656
they do Pop Left but not frequently maybe the Rona screwed that up a bit


[15-Jun-20 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think it was Pop Left either. Damn, I'mma have to dig through their archives now.


[15-Jun-20 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
Oh, Spicy Takes


[15-Jun-20 02:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/jge68UQjibQ

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[15-Jun-20 02:49 AM] AaronMk#4499
I guess they only did four episodes. So probably wasn't that popular


[15-Jun-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/19/mitch-mcconnell-reparations-slavery-compensation-not-needed-after-obama-presidency/1501650001/

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Mitch McConnell: We paid for 'sin of slavery' by electing Obama
Mitch McConnell made headlines when he said acts like passing civil rights laws and electing Barack Obama could be considered compensation for slavery
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[15-Jun-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh that's from 2019


[15-Jun-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everyone go home, racism's over


[15-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism cancelled, it had a good run.


[15-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replace you confederate flags with dollar signs, it's time for the nonracist but super classist free market.


[15-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now bow down to China, our new overlords.


[15-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had the most money, so you can't complain.


[15-Jun-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you got your token black guy! What more do you want?


[15-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they were even stupidly racist to him.


[15-Jun-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-uses-buffalo-protester-to-puke-out-more-lurid-antifa-conspiracies-as-the-people-steal-his-spotlight

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[15-Jun-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AngrierWHStaff/status/1272339638083104769?s=20

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[15-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[15-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:zeeb:


[15-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>may be applied to community service *in lieu of payment*


[15-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prison labor.


[15-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But instead of prisoners it's black peo— sorry, *MINORITY*ies


[15-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's both.


[15-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want blakk prisoners who got a hefty community service component to their sentence, or where community service counts to good behavior, to do it.


[15-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/biden-kamala-harris-keisha-lance-bottoms-val-demings/index.html

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The Top 10 women Joe Biden might pick as vice president
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[15-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden/Bottoms


[15-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or Biden/Demings


[15-Jun-20 04:44 AM] jlun2#8758
when will mcconnell leave again


[15-Jun-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
never


[15-Jun-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
he is ghost of the boomers


[15-Jun-20 04:45 AM] jlun2#8758
I suspected as much ty


[15-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
He will eventually die.

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[15-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Supposedly


[15-Jun-20 04:46 AM] jlun2#8758
prob at age 120


[15-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'll believe it when I see it


[15-Jun-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
then look dismissively at next gen "why dont you losers just stay healthy"


[15-Jun-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
Boomers don't die


[15-Jun-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rTuPEdlhQs

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[15-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it paints the 50s/60s as a time where parents couldn't tolerate negative emotions or differences ever being expressed by their children.


[15-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers didn't like it, but in the end they mostly fell in line.


[15-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers thought burning bras and half-heartedly whining about Nixon was revolutionary.


[15-Jun-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's because *it was*.


[15-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were in a society where you couldn't let your hair down without being physically assaulted leaving marks.


[15-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silents were abusive fukks.


[15-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can still see remnants of this today.


[15-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many people defend physically beating children.


[15-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All that does is teach kids violence is a solution.


[15-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-Jun-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, actually.


[15-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does one other thing, one other really bad thing.


[15-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you don't preface torturous punishment with how necessary it is for good behavior, and expressions of still loving the child, it makes them believe you do not love them.


[15-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the worst thing you can do to your child.


[15-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
(short of outright murdering them or similar)


[15-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And these same parents wonder why they are distant from their kids when they grow up


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They _don't get it_


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are 4 parenting types.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 axes.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love and strictness.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] wren#0114
bullcrap


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You want both to be high.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Low love, high strictness is bad.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children will simply rebel against authority and destroy themselves in the process.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Don't be your kid's friend" is pretty simple advice that works


[15-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Because I said so" is one of the worst things you can say to a child.


[15-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It indicates that you are merely a dictator hurting them for selfish reasons, rather than trying to help them.


[15-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
@wren which part?


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] wren#0114
beating is abuse, but physical discipline like spanking isn't beating


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] wren#0114
prolly misread your point tho


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The distinction is irrelevant bullshit.


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children perceive them the same.


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
> If you don't preface torturous punishment with how necessary it is for good behavior, and expressions of still loving the child, it makes them believe you do not love them.
if you torture your child, it makes them irrationally fear you and develop coping strategies for interacting with you instead of developing normally


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] wren#0114
that's the bs then


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
there, fixed your shitty insight


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you would not take a baton to your kid's face.


[15-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not spank them.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is not an opinion.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is "don't commit child abuse"


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] wren#0114
I was spanked growing up, and I'm glad I was


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not be.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] wren#0114
it was not abuse


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are major studies on this.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spanking lessens potential.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
psychologists have conclusively determined that physical abuse is bad no matter how you do it


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The absolute best case for being spanked is no harm and no benefit.


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
now please stop


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] wren#0114
spanking is not abuse


[15-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the vast majority of cases, it creates massive harm.


[15-Jun-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not go "I didn't turn out evil, so this thing that lessened my potential isn't bad"


[15-Jun-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are the sum total of a lot of things, not just one event.


[15-Jun-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying you turned out alright, so spanking is okay, is akin to saying that "I survived a plane crash, so why worry about death from them?"


[15-Jun-20 05:16 AM] wren#0114
me, my (many) siblings, my (very many) cousins, all of my aunts, uncles, grandparents, and extended family past them


[15-Jun-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, many children grow up in way worse families than you, where a bit of spanking is the determining factor between scraping by as an adult and becoming homeless and dead in the streets due to severe emotional problems.


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
There has never been a study showing spanking has a positive effect on child outcomes.


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] wren#0114
that sounds like abuse, not like appropriate discipline


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The scientific consensus is that spanking has a negative effect.


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
@wren did we ever give you the rundown on punishment vs reward


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] wren#0114
why are y'all the authority I should receive that from


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] wren#0114
but im willing to listen


[15-Jun-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
two big problems with punishment


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
first of all, it doesn't indicate what the correct behavior is, only that something is wrong


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
second, one of the biggest problems with punishment in operant conditioning is that the assessment of whether a treatment is a punishment or a reward is entirely up to the subject


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In my case, my only claim to proper education on this subject is Intro to Psych and Developmental Psych classes in college.


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would hope you rely more on the consensus of scientific studies, which are the sources for information taught in those courses to begin with.


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
many subjects will begin to actively seek out "punishments" to get a rise out of their caretakers


[15-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
thus it becomes rewarding


[15-Jun-20 05:19 AM] wren#0114
that's an unhealthy system, where the caregivers are not giving the child appropriate attention in the first place


[15-Jun-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
My Developmental Psych class I should note is where I learned of cases where spanking does not hav a negative effect, only a neutral effect.


[15-Jun-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, blakk moms tend to not cause harmful effects by spanking.


[15-Jun-20 05:20 AM] wren#0114
that sounds more like a cultural study


[15-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The causal reason postulated was that there was a noticed different behavior by the moms in terms of communication to the child.


[15-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would say things like "I'm only spanking you 'cause I love ya"


[15-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indicating to the child that they love the child, and the purpose of spanking.


[15-Jun-20 05:20 AM] jlun2#8758
wait, and for whites (in general) they just go beat the kid w/o telling why? :ponythinking:


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is to say, they are directly countering the primary way that children are psychologically harmed, by believing they are not loved.


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 universally negative.


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] wren#0114
not communication love, and merely applying pain as a means of control is certainly abuse


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Spanking is definitely abuse, and it has been shown that aggression towards children mostly leads them to be more aggressive as they grow older


[15-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
How your child perceives what you do is everything.


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] jlun2#8758
well, can confirm if no explaining, I won't learn anything; got beaten up at school before & reason was "you know why" ???


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter your intent. If the child thinks you don't love them, they will grow to hate authority.


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most parents simply apply pain to make children shut up.


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the standard approach of white America.


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] wren#0114
doubt


[15-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it needs to be stopped by legal means.


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] wren#0114
why would you make a blanket statement like that


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the science has been pointing the same direction for 50 years.


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There have been countless stud


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spanking has never been shown to improve child outcomes.


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only hurt them.


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Things like that should be illegal.


[15-Jun-20 05:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-baby-scientist/201812/the-science-spanking

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[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] wren#0114
occoms razor would suggest that most parents love their children, and decide punishment/reward out of that love


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] wren#0114
imo


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
that's actually not a reasonable default assumption


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are misusing Occam's Razor.


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
nor is it the simplest


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] wren#0114
how would you argue that most white people hate their kids then


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most parents do love their children.


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you hav to understand


[15-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
whether they do or not is entirely irrelevant.


[15-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only thing that matters to the child is whether the child **believes** the parent loves them.


[15-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A parent who givs the impression of love, but does not possess it, is good.


[15-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A parent who loves the child, but does not express it, is bad.


[15-Jun-20 05:25 AM] jlun2#8758
I love my turtles but every time the make a mess I alwys wanted to beat them if not for the fact it'll kill them + they make cute faces.
I have anger problems & assume others do


[15-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you beat people, they assume you do not, or no longer, love them.


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] wren#0114
that's not right, because the impression of love, with lackadaisical attitude towards discipline, can turn into bad life choices


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Likewise people tend to hurt the children way more than they mean to because they're angry


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The impression of love does not mean removing rules.


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love and strictness are separate dimensions.


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They get in the habit of having that be their default response


[15-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies indicate you need both to be on the high side.


[15-Jun-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love without strictness can lead to children who struggle.


[15-Jun-20 05:27 AM] wren#0114
I agree


[15-Jun-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, a parent who does not love a kid, but always states reasons for rules, and hugs the kid, etc., ends up being very good for the kid's future.


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] wren#0114
complete disagree


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
A parent who loves the kid, but lashes out with spanking and says "because I said so", ends up being very bad for the kid's future.


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] wren#0114
and that's a strawman


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
I have 0 idea how to do that; correcting kids make me look antagonistic, not correcting them I get blamed for their mistakes :shrugpony:


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a strawman.


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a statement.


[15-Jun-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
A strawman would be assigning a particular position to you.


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
(one that you don't hav, and that would be easier to defeat than your actual position)


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] wren#0114
that case is wrong, but spanking in general is not that


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spanking in general is that, according to the research.


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can disagree, but you are factually incorrect.


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] wren#0114
lol ok


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to engage in the particular variety of spanking shown to not cause negative outcomes, you are free to.


[15-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that is not what most parents who hear "spanking is okay" will do.


[15-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note


[15-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
To say "because I said so" implies that you are unwilling to go over the reasoning of a rule with the child.


[15-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I'm only spanking you 'cause I love ya and I have to to get you to behave" etc. is directly contradictory to that.


[15-Jun-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Children may not be very smart but they can get the gist of communications toward them.


[15-Jun-20 05:31 AM] wren#0114
this "because I said so" mentality is not inherently part of spanking


[15-Jun-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You never want to send a message that you are unwilling to consider them.


[15-Jun-20 05:32 AM] wren#0114
if I was punished for no reason, and it was random, heck yeah that would have been bad for me and I would have rebelled a lot directly from that


[15-Jun-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spanking without accompanying information to counter its default message of pain *is* a problem for being low on the love side.


[15-Jun-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is much better to provide treats for correct behavior, which inherently provide a positive message of love, as well as other benefits in behavioral conditioning.


[15-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanking doesn't work; kids either accept it as the cost of operations or they revel in it as validation that they got a reaction from the authority


[15-Jun-20 05:33 AM] wren#0114
a real and healthy part of love is setting and keeping certain boundaries for behavior


[15-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having boundary conditions does not imply physical violence, or even punishment in general.


[15-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Temporary pain means nothing to any creature capable of remembering events over a day long


[15-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can go "if you don't behave, you won't get candies" to set a boundary.


[15-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And elaborate on what "behave" means etc.


[15-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Grounding, restrictions, that sort of thing are punishments that have an actual effect


[15-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Spanking (and the like) breed rebelliousness, at best


[15-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is there is a cultural group that is VERY GOOD at raising kids: Asians, especially Chinese.


[15-Jun-20 05:35 AM] wren#0114
I feel like you're making blanket statements on groups a bit much


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two big reasons are that the whole community often participates in raising children, and they tend to base things around restrictions/rewards.


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We shouldn't be teaching kids to do things that as adults would get them arrested


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blanket statements are necessary in research fields to figure out wtf is going on.


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If a kid punches another kid and you say that's okay, you are raising a criminal


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you are at the level of millions of people, you need to go "what culture raises kids best?" to then figure out *why*.


[15-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because then you can filter out individuals and find societal-level differences.


[15-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
A random Asian family may raise their kid very poorly.


[15-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Clearly the solution is more anime :^D

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[15-Jun-20 05:37 AM] wren#0114
^


[15-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if you see *thousands* of Asian families and *millions* of white families, and for some reason the kids raised by Asian ones are doing better on average, *something is going on*


[15-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd be very very wary of such blanket judgements


[15-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Given the amok phenomenon and all


[15-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is going on is how sociology has to work in practice.


[15-Jun-20 05:38 AM] wren#0114
if we're making blanket statements, my (completely imperfect and anecdotal) impression of asian parents in the west is that they're heavily demanding on performance in school, and demand high-paying smart jobs


[15-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's up to later research to then determine things experimentally.


[15-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, those are things common to Asian parents.


[15-Jun-20 05:39 AM] wren#0114
that would stress me out sooooo much


[15-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
High expectations can be a real problem.


[15-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yet still, their kids tend to do better.


[15-Jun-20 05:40 AM] wren#0114
on the surface, in stats


[15-Jun-20 05:40 AM] wren#0114
there's a whole person to consider beyond that


[15-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Importing Asian parenting wholesale wouldn't be a good idea because you may get negative things as well as the positive things.


[15-Jun-20 05:40 AM] wren#0114
idk I'm not in a state to argue rn


[15-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and you may inflate the negatives on accident)


[15-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/502695-philippines-journalist-known-for-investigating-duterte-convicted-of-cyber

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[15-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This sounds like something in a shitty Blade Runner ripoff


[15-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of science is to filter out things by looking at repeatability of results.


[15-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The consensus on spanking did not come overnite.


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[15-Jun-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
guess what I didn't agree with carson earlier and I still don't agree with him now


[15-Jun-20 06:12 AM] jlun2#8758
> As eviction bans across the country start to lift, the US could face an eviction 'apocalypse'
homeowners be like: :sombralick: :nut: :lunalick: :glowing_eyes::raep:


[15-Jun-20 06:17 AM] jlun2#8758
retail & eviction apocalypse at the same time, & boomers be like "what apocalypse?" :ts_cry:


[15-Jun-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"wtf is 'rent'?"


[15-Jun-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
TSP confirmed for economist.


[15-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's now qualified to write US fiscal policy.


[15-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:yay: 💵


[15-Jun-20 06:20 AM] byte[]#2610
looks like flutters is about to deepthroat a fat stack of cash


[15-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ryan Zinke's wet dream.


[15-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy shit, Gianforte is running for governor of Montana?


[15-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gianforte is proof that we need journalists to run for elected office


[15-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I kinda want Zucker to run for NYC mayor and win


[15-Jun-20 06:36 AM] jlun2#8758
Zuckerburg


[15-Jun-20 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
Are economists all rich old white men? I got an A on first year econ, can I be rich too?


[15-Jun-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, Zucker


[15-Jun-20 06:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who owns CNN


[15-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't the memes channel.


[15-Jun-20 07:11 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[15-Jun-20 07:35 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Duterte is Asian Trump


[15-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Congrats on joining 2016.


[15-Jun-20 07:39 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I like my country, but the government sucks balls


[15-Jun-20 07:42 AM] jlun2#8758
remember to vote


[15-Jun-20 07:43 AM] byte[]#2610
the boomers are burning their ballots


[15-Jun-20 07:43 AM] byte[]#2610
your vote might count


[15-Jun-20 07:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/michigan/2020/06/13/trump-supporters-burn-michigan-absentee-ballot-applications/111958524/

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Trump supporters burn Michigan absentee ballot applications
The applications were burned Friday during an event called Operation Incinerator outside the DeltaPlex Arena in Walker
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[15-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/djblev/status/1272338888955133954

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Funniest thing I’ve watched in quite a while 😂😂😂
#CHAZ 
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[15-Jun-20 10:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/2455932s9y451.jpg

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[15-Jun-20 11:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jrER-zq6P4

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Police mistake bird poop for cocaine
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[15-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwgmZz3Q9Is

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[15-Jun-20 12:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"poopoo!" Graffiti 
Chalk drawing on the street is vandalism :wheeze:


[15-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/HalfAssed_/status/1271145001947299841

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Y’all think this is okay? This is normal? This is dog shit. https://t.co/DWGE8nozc0
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[15-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Exquisite_Class/status/1271806331217903616

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@Jiggyy_Ja @paulareneeb @gabrieluuuh @HalfAssed_ All of us! Got a gun pulled on me as well and my car surrounded because I did have a firearm which I alerted him that it was in my trunk not in my compartment and he still pulled a gun right in my face
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[15-Jun-20 03:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/hnRuWcgflaE

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRuWcgflaE
Body cam footage of Rayshard Brooks’ death shows calm, then chaos
The first 29 minutes don’t prepare you for the all-too-familiar tragedy that follows: a white police officer, a black male victim, lethal gunshots and questions about whether any of it was justified. It happened again in Atlanta Friday night, when Officer Garrett Rolfe fired t...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hnRuWcgflaE/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Jun-20 03:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I was right that Rayshard shoot taser at cops


[15-Jun-20 03:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And it also doesnt looks like cops escalated anything


[15-Jun-20 03:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
cops 100% escalated


[15-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you just guessing that or can you tell me timecode where cops did something that escalated situation?


[15-Jun-20 03:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
compare this to the video posted yesterday of the guy who pulled a knife and tried to suicide by cop


[15-Jun-20 03:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Well i agree that cops shouldnt just spray that poor guy with bullets,they could take aim and shoot in his leg to neutralise


[15-Jun-20 03:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, not "shoot in leg"


[15-Jun-20 03:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
my guess they paniced after stolen taser was used,


[15-Jun-20 03:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is not how it works except in movies


[15-Jun-20 03:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk they tried to taser him first but it had no effect


[15-Jun-20 03:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so what else could they do


[15-Jun-20 03:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there are a number of things that went wrong but the moment it escalated was 3:20


[15-Jun-20 03:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you wanna tell me what you think happened there?


[15-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes


[15-Jun-20 03:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cops tried to arrest that dude cause they suspected he's drunk


[15-Jun-20 03:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But instead of cooperations he overpowered them and run away


[15-Jun-20 03:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and also stole that tazer


[15-Jun-20 03:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i bet if he didnt do that they would chase him


[15-Jun-20 03:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
instead of shooting


[15-Jun-20 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tazer was spent, it was was an uncharged tazer


[15-Jun-20 03:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
not in my video


[15-Jun-20 03:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/hnRuWcgflaE?t=237

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRuWcgflaE&start=237
Body cam footage of Rayshard Brooks’ death shows calm, then chaos
The first 29 minutes don’t prepare you for the all-too-familiar tragedy that follows: a white police officer, a black male victim, lethal gunshots and questions about whether any of it was justified. It happened again in Atlanta Friday night, when Officer Garrett Rolfe fired t...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hnRuWcgflaE/maxresdefault.jpg


[15-Jun-20 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, so here's what I see. Both cops are behind his back while he's being cuffed. Rayshard feels the cuffs go on, he panics and lurches forward, and gets wrestled to the ground. One of the officers yells "you're gonna get tazed! You're gonna get tazed!" Rayshard grabs the first tazer and breaks free, the other cop tries to taze him again. While running away, Rayshard points the tazer back again and there is a shot fired


[15-Jun-20 03:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you can hear taser deploymend and a flash from his hand where taser was


[15-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
seems about right wingbeat


[15-Jun-20 03:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, honestly, what else would you expect him to do


[15-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
surrender like any sane person


[15-Jun-20 03:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he was *drunk as a skunk*


[15-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and get DYI instead of lead


[15-Jun-20 03:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and no, just playing nice does not guarantee you will not be killed


[15-Jun-20 03:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
being drunk does not give you any rights to resist arrest


[15-Jun-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
plenty of people have played nice with police and giotten a bullet to the head


[15-Jun-20 03:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
pretty much everyone in his situation knows that once the cops suddenly decide to arrest you, your life is on the line


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] wren#0114
I was told he was shot in the back with no prov at all. He clearly fired the tazer at the cops right before. Completely unecessary force as a reply still


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not even clear whether or not the breathalyzer was even administered


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cops seems really chill to me


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no they don't


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
that whole situation escalated when he started to resist arrest


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Dude fukking stop


[15-Jun-20 03:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the first cop on the scene literally says "I don't want to deal with this right now"


[15-Jun-20 03:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not chill


[15-Jun-20 03:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
This was brought up before by you.


[15-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ill stop but i still stand with my opinion


[15-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Crow#5457
that cops should be allowed to fill you with bullets if you don't immediately comply with every order


[15-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your opinion is explicitly at odds with the law.


[15-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Crow#5457
noncompliance doesn't give the cops the power to summarily execute people


[15-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I get wanting to argue it once, but it should not be a daily topic of conversation.


[15-Jun-20 03:37 PM] wren#0114
lel what


[15-Jun-20 03:37 PM] wren#0114
who made u politics police


[15-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i just showed new proofs


[15-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, it was a new video that proved he did in fact fire the taser?


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
there's sound


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
That does change the factual matter of things.


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
the old video had no sound


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
@wren byte.


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
sound and video from cops


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dashcam i mean


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention all the other little details, like how the cop who said "you're gonna get tazed" *announced his intentions*, pulled the tazer way too close, and pulled the tazer in a situation where it wouldn't even have been effective. And it wasn't


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] wren#0114
poltics police existing :wheeze:


[15-Jun-20 03:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Politics is the topic that most leads to trolling in my experience.


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i was muted by them


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
I will happily mute people that sling fallacies around.


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
sorry nebbie


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] wren#0114
enjoy echo chamber


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
trump bad cops bad


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dont mute


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWmythicalFeelsSadMan:


[15-Jun-20 03:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not how this works


[15-Jun-20 03:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Forbidding fallacies is how you hav actual debate.


[15-Jun-20 03:40 PM] wren#0114
remember kids orange man bad orange pony good


[15-Jun-20 03:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're just as likely to get muted for saying that


[15-Jun-20 03:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah if anyone seriously went "well Trump did it so it's bad" I think they'd get shut down pretty fast.


[15-Jun-20 03:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think I've actually seen that ever said seriously of course.


[15-Jun-20 03:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not good trolling material.


[15-Jun-20 03:42 PM] wren#0114
sometimes here it feels like you're not inviting discussion, but are pushing your viewpoint and browbeating anyone who disagrees


[15-Jun-20 03:42 PM] wren#0114
is all I'm saying


[15-Jun-20 03:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to be very blunt here and say that nonfactual viewpoints aren't okay.


[15-Jun-20 03:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can't honestly expect us to take you seriously after you just parroted "orange man bad" at us


[15-Jun-20 03:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
When you come to this channel, better bring your scientific face to the fukking door.


[15-Jun-20 03:43 PM] Macarou#9574
And also found the concept of debate mods to be a joke


[15-Jun-20 03:44 PM] wren#0114
ok


[15-Jun-20 03:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
To note, the reason I'm not too fond of going "the cops here are justified" in this particular instance is that it's an argument premised in legal outcomes, but it completely ignores caselaw.


[15-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it's instead a moral argument that the police *should* be able to kill anyone who resists arrest, then it should not masquerade as if it weren't.


[15-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
As to whether the suspect fired the taser, that is relevant to talking about how it might go down in court, and thus why new info matters.


[15-Jun-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
political channels without moderation just turn into shitshow trollfests with people constantly sniping each other with ad hominems


[15-Jun-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
which is what some people think politics is actually supposed to be like, which is sad


[15-Jun-20 03:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
But Crow, videogames taught me that politics is an unwinnable dikk-measuring contest between two equally bad sides!


[15-Jun-20 03:51 PM] wren#0114
shouldn't a debate mod be a neutral observer


[15-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are in practice two kinds of mods


[15-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
those who are involved in political discussion


[15-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
and those who mute the channel.


[15-Jun-20 03:51 PM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[15-Jun-20 03:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is very difficult to convince people to unmute it.


[15-Jun-20 03:52 PM] wren#0114
I mean the concept of a debate moderator, not specifically discord mods


[15-Jun-20 03:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause even if someone wants a specific thing, 90% of the channel won't be that.


[15-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So you're going to get a debate moderator who isn't a mod in this Discord?


[15-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
How does that work?


[15-Jun-20 03:53 PM] wren#0114
what


[15-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the debate area in question.


[15-Jun-20 03:53 PM] wren#0114
I'm not attacking anything or trying to change stuff lmao


[15-Jun-20 03:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
...then what are you talking about?


[15-Jun-20 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But you are challenging the idea that a debate mod should be nonpartial to the running of the discord


[15-Jun-20 03:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What you are suggesting is different from how things work


[15-Jun-20 03:55 PM] wren#0114
I'm saying that's a discord moderator


[15-Jun-20 03:56 PM] wren#0114
was answering this
> And also found the concept of debate mods to be a joke


[15-Jun-20 03:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so if I'm understanding you correctly, you believe that political debate should be overseen by someone who is not in charge of running the discord


[15-Jun-20 03:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
How, then, do you propose they moderate the debate if things get out of line? Would they not need some power to enforce the rules of the debate?


[15-Jun-20 03:57 PM] wren#0114
you're making a viewpoint that I didn't state, and putting me into it.


[15-Jun-20 03:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
You should probably hav pinged Victor Presper in that post.


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] wren#0114
I wasn't addressing discord moderation of channels


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Who a reply is to matters for the context of what it means.


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is the difference between moderating a political channel and moderating a political debate


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
The default assumption is usually that a reply is temporally with the most adjacent relevant post.


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] wren#0114
ok


[15-Jun-20 03:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if the sole purpose of the channel is for political debate


[15-Jun-20 04:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
On a sidenote, apparently a timcast video was linked a while bakk and while I'm not gonna take the time to review whether it's his usual lying disinformation with an incorrect clikkbait title for removal, I am gonna hav to I think mess with the channel description (RIP short sweet thing).


[15-Jun-20 04:00 PM] wren#0114
in the discord sense, that's a moderator, and it's proper. In a political or debate sense, that's one side with physical power and intimidation over the other, and that's unhealthy

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[15-Jun-20 04:00 PM] wren#0114
it a complex


[15-Jun-20 04:00 PM] wren#0114
I wasn't trying to attack


[15-Jun-20 04:00 PM] wren#0114
and I have to go work now


[15-Jun-20 04:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So you believe it's unhealthy to give debate moderators the ability to wield power over one or both sides of a debate?


[15-Jun-20 04:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think he's saying they can't take a side.


[15-Jun-20 04:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is not really practical in the end.


[15-Jun-20 04:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Is your idea of the perfect debate moderator, therefore, comparable to how Justice Roberts presided over the impeachment of Donald Trump, in which he contributed nothing but token gestures on one or two occasions reminding people of the rules


[15-Jun-20 04:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and took no sides whatsoever, even if taking a side meant declaring that one side was making arguments in bad faith


[15-Jun-20 04:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not a moderator, that's a figurehead


[15-Jun-20 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/876351501/zoom-acknowledges-it-suspended-activists-accounts-at-china-s-request

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Zoom Acknowledges It Suspended Activists' Accounts At China's Request
The video conferencing company says Beijing had asked that four meetings and associated users be terminated. Two of the users were based in the U.S. and the third in Hong Kong.
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[15-Jun-20 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
don't trust china, china is asshoe


[15-Jun-20 04:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and incidentally, I rewatched the video of Brooks. The cop who drew the taser tried to use it like a stun gun, holding it at point blank range against Brooks' leg, inches from his hands


[15-Jun-20 04:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note since you're reopening this topic that @Smug Trixie is free to engage.


[15-Jun-20 04:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser#Drive_Stun

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Taser  is a brand of conducted electrical weapon sold by Axon, formerly TASER International. It fires two small barbed darts intended to puncture the skin and remain attached to the target. The darts are connected to the main unit by thin insulated copper wire and deliver a mo...
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[15-Jun-20 04:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Some TASER device models, particularly those used by police departments, also have a "Drive Stun" capability, where the TASER device is held against the target without firing the projectiles, and is intended to cause pain without incapacitating the target. "Drive Stun" is "the process of using the EMD (Electro Muscular Disruption) weapon as a pain compliance technique. This is done by activating the TASER [device] and placing it against an individual's body. This can be done without an air cartridge in place or after an air cartridge has been deployed."[35]

Guidelines released in 2011 in the U.S. recommend that use of Drive Stun as a pain compliance technique be avoided.[36] The guidelines were issued by a joint committee of the Police Executive Research Forum and the U.S. Department of Justice Office of Community Oriented Policing Services. The guidelines state "Using the CEW to achieve pain compliance may have limited effectiveness and, when used repeatedly, may even exacerbate the situation by inducing rage in the subject".

A study of U.S. police and sheriff departments found that 29.6% of the jurisdictions allowed the use of Drive Stun for gaining compliance in a passive resistance arrest scenario, with no physical contact between the officer and the subject. For a scenario that also includes non-violent physical contact, this number is 65.2%.[37]


[15-Jun-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think stun guns used on the leg are very effective


[15-Jun-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
or any limb


[15-Jun-20 04:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So that does answer my followup question, which was whether the officer would've been trained to use the taser in that manner. It also suggests that his intention was for the sole purpose of pain compliance, not incapacitation


[15-Jun-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
using it on the limb would be using it for pain compliance


[15-Jun-20 04:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I believe it would be fair to say that if the intention was incapacitation, that might not necessarily be escalation, but pain compliance without intention of incapacitation necessarily is escalation


[15-Jun-20 04:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it should also be noted that the officer who drew the taser fully disengaged from wrestling Brooks on the ground to draw the taser


[15-Jun-20 04:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In my estimation, it was pretty much entirely a result of that action that the situation went from attempting to arrest and handcuff Brooks to his breaking free, gaining control of the drawn taser (which may have actually been deployed in drive stun mode), and running away while pointing the taser at his pursuers


[15-Jun-20 04:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
he shoot it tho


[15-Jun-20 04:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so it might not be in stun mode


[15-Jun-20 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, that depends on how you access the modes


[15-Jun-20 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's possible both things happened


[15-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
So it sounds like the officer might be poorly trained...


[15-Jun-20 04:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he may have been tased in the leg, was enraged (as suggested by the wikipedia excerpt citing the 2011 guidelines), and then ran away and fired the taser again


[15-Jun-20 04:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if im correct there is no federal training for police


[15-Jun-20 04:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so yeah some of them poorly trained


[15-Jun-20 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
~~it's also possible that when he shot the taser it was still in drive stun mode and wouldn't even have hit the pursuing officer~~ researched, drive stun mode only works if the device is firmly pressed into the target


[15-Jun-20 04:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, in professions where people's lives are at direct risk, bad training is reprehensible.


[15-Jun-20 04:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
A few bad apples **spoil the bunch**.


[15-Jun-20 04:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so it's possible that even if the officer did attempt to shock him, by aiming at such a poor target, he may not have actually made contact at the time the trigger was pulled


[15-Jun-20 04:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
remember, he'd fully disengaged, and specifically chose to shoot him in the leg with the taser in close quarters


[15-Jun-20 04:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there is a reason that firearms training doesn't involve "shooting for the leg" or any target other than center of mass


[15-Jun-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/supreme-court-lgbt-rights-decision-319693

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Supreme Court finds law bars LGBT discrimination in workplace
Two of the court’s Republican appointees, Neil Gorsuch and John Roberts, joined the court’s Democratic appointees to deliver the surprising, 6-3 victory to LGBT advocates.
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[15-Jun-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
OH SHIT


[15-Jun-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
>  Writing for the court’s majority, Gorsuch accepted arguments that the Civil Rights Act of 1964’s prohibition on sex discrimination in employment also effectively banned bias based on sexual orientation or gender identity, even though few if any members of Congress thought they were doing that at the time.


[15-Jun-20 04:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh nice, a 6-3


[15-Jun-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/14/california-largest-police-unions-unveil-reform-plan-in-joint-statement/

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Major California police unions call for reforms, removal of racist ...
San Jose, San Francisco and Los Angeles Police unions are calling for a use of force standard, an early warning system, a national database of fired officers and other reforms.
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[15-Jun-20 04:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
trump will not be happy about that decision I think


[15-Jun-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
apparently california police unions see the way the winds are blowing


[15-Jun-20 04:50 PM] Crow#5457
either that or they're trying to offer false appeasement


[15-Jun-20 04:50 PM] Crow#5457
which is actually more likely, but we'll see


[15-Jun-20 04:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, let's call their bluff then


[15-Jun-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if san jose is an example of what they're suggesting not being enough, let's do that and more


[15-Jun-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but let's do it anyway


[15-Jun-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/722099695710765057
Breitbart is _seething_


[15-Jun-20 04:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
sorry, can you fix that link


[15-Jun-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's Crow's post on the Politico article


[15-Jun-20 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
the post link works for me


[15-Jun-20 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
it moves the app back up to the politico post


[15-Jun-20 04:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh hang on I was trying to open it in browser, yeah it works


[15-Jun-20 05:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think we can expect Trump to say Gorsuch is a traitor he would've never appointed if he knew this.


[15-Jun-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-qualified-immunity-police-accountability-law-2020-6

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The Supreme Court won't reexamine qualified immunity, the controver...
Even before the police killing of George Floyd, a range of experts and advocates were urging the Supreme Court to critically examine the doctrine.
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[15-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
> In the unsigned order declining to reexamine the doctrine, Justice Clarence Thomas dissented. The "qualified immunity doctrine appears to stray from the statutory text," he wrote.


[15-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hell https://www.courthousenews.com/justice-thomas-calls-for-supreme-court-to-review-qualified-immunity/

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Justice Thomas Calls for Supreme Court to Review Qualified Immunity
The Supreme Court opted not to hear a case on qualified immunity Monday, drawing sharp criticism from Justice Clarence Thomas, who holds strong doubts about shielding police from civil lawsuits over the use of excessive force.
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[15-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I get it


[15-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas is the guy who goes "police shouldn't be held accountable by the law because you can sue them"


[15-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
So if he's caught also saying "and you can't sue them even when you're in the US", then it becomes apparent he wants fascism.


[15-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
But then who the hell rejected reviewing this?


[15-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
4 conservatives and...Sotomayor?


[15-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking so basically, Gorsuch and Thomas are actually sticking to their metaphorical guns. This is going to blow up the Republican party.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch WROTE the opinion that Republicans' argument on it being okay to fire people for being gay or trans is wrong.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Thomas meanwhile thinks police shouldn't hav qualified immunity.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
how soon after this can we ask SCOTUS about qi again


[15-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Immediately.


[15-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Them declining to hear particular cases doesn't futureproof.


[15-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
All you need is another officer who is kept immune.


[15-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The question really is what liberal justice broke ranks to decide police should be immune.


[15-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
And *why*


[15-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Realize that Thomas' "just sue the cop" goes so far he doesn't think Miranda rights should be a thing


[15-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
I get they all aren't RBG, but what the hell is that justice thinking?


[15-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
QI has been expanded way beyond its foundations.


[15-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
They apply it more broadly now than most amendments.


[15-Jun-20 05:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure there's a list a mile long of cases as strong as Baxter's, if not more


[15-Jun-20 05:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
do we *want* a stronger case than that, though


[15-Jun-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean "do we want the cops to do something that bad?", the answer is it doesn't matter


[15-Jun-20 05:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
a cop will shoot a kindergartener in the face with real bullets.


[15-Jun-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then a court will say "well we never decided on kindergartens"


[15-Jun-20 05:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
And soccermoms will burn police stations.


[15-Jun-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure if to say that's a 2030 prediction or a "next month" prediction at this point.


[15-Jun-20 05:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
*COMING UP ON **2020***


[15-Jun-20 05:21 PM] Crow#5457
they've done studies on how people perceive the age of children based on race, black kids around 13-14 get seen as 18+, and 8-12 are perceived as around 2-3 years older than they actually are


[15-Jun-20 05:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/03/black-boys-older


[15-Jun-20 05:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/502747-ted-cruz-challenges-actor-ron-perlman-to-wrestle-jim-jordan-after-attack-on#

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Ted Cruz challenges actor Ron Perlman to wrestle Jim Jordan after a...
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) challenged actor Ron Perlman to a wrestling match against Ohio Rep.
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[15-Jun-20 05:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cringy shit


[15-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't fucking YouTube drama


[15-Jun-20 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yukk, Cruz.


[15-Jun-20 05:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It took a while, but at this point it's become clear that Romney is the better of the two.


[15-Jun-20 06:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/supreme-court-lgbtq-employment-case/index.html

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Supreme Court says federal law protects LGBTQ workers from discrimi...
Federal civil rights law protects gay, lesbian and transgender workers, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.
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[15-Jun-20 06:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh thank god


[15-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Inb4 he forces them to repeal protections


[15-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
already linked


[15-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
can't


[15-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Tries*


[15-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I didn't see it but I'm so damn relieved


[15-Jun-20 06:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
This was the try.


[15-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration took a side in the case, and they lost.


[15-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS just blatantly told the DoJ it's wrong.


[15-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the DoJ proceeds to ignore that, then we are in utter dictatorship.


[15-Jun-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any other ruling would make zero sense


[15-Jun-20 06:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet 3 conservative justices dissented.


[15-Jun-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fda.gov/media/136784/download


[15-Jun-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-revokes-authorization-for-hydroxychloroquine-2020-06-15

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FDA revokes authorization for hydroxychloroquine
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said Monday that it has withdrawn the emergency use authorization (EUA) granted to hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine...
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[15-Jun-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/sanctuary-cities-california-supreme-court/index.html

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Supreme Court won't hear challenge to California sanctuary law
The Supreme Court on Monday left in place a lower court opinion upholding one of California's so-called sanctuary laws that limits cooperation between law enforcement and federal immigration authorities, a measure that the Trump administration says is meant to "undermine" fede...
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[15-Jun-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/502754-supreme-court-upholds-permit-for-8-billion-pipeline-under

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Supreme Court upholds permit for $8 billion pipeline under Appalach...
The Supreme Court on Monday upheld a permit for a controversial $8 billion gas pipeline that would tunnel below the famed Appalachian Trail.
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[15-Jun-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jun-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/BoozyBadger/status/1272544275247611907

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Right Wing: "It's about the rule of law and..."

SCOTUS: "The law says Trans Rights."

Right Wing: "...no, not like that." https://t.co/1M4TJ09zPf
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[15-Jun-20 06:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem for them is that Gorsuch actually believes it.


[15-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Scalia was a fraud.


[15-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives came up with a twisted logic they could use to say DO WHATEVER TEXT SAYS EVEN IF IT KILLS BABIES


[15-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which everyone was supposed to know really meant "do whatever kills those liberal babies"


[15-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch however just heard "DO WHATEVER TEXT SAYS"...


[15-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's like when the villains program a murderous robot to "eliminate problems", and it promptly blows up their evil lair.


[15-Jun-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember reading someone's interactions with Scalia


[15-Jun-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In terms of the law, he was just crotchety and hated the youth and science


[15-Jun-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And as a person


[15-Jun-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> hated the youth
young people ruin everything


[15-Jun-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
I ruin everything boomers love by existing for instance


[15-Jun-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jun-20 07:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
When were you when Scalia 2.0 was a liberal activist judge Republicans couldn't pull the plug on?


[15-Jun-20 07:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
So... @Itsthinking


[15-Jun-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
between this, the botched pandemic response, and George Floyd and Trump's horrific response, how screwed is the GOP?


[15-Jun-20 07:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think this might be their worst-case scenario.


[15-Jun-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They threw away all of their stated propaganda values to corrupt the judiciary and then it just told them "TRANS RIGHTS"


[15-Jun-20 07:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They put a ton of chips on the police disrupting the blakk vote and now riots are making people way more active.


[15-Jun-20 07:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
They went balls-deep on saying voting should be in-person only, right as outside forces made that basically impossible, and now they're responsible too for the largest national disaster in history *being* the largest.


[15-Jun-20 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's still a 50/50 election IMO


[15-Jun-20 07:35 PM] jlun2#8758
^
agreed; it's easy to say "this'll energize the voters" but so far it just energizes GOPers


[15-Jun-20 07:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if it energizes them to burn their ballots then maybe


[15-Jun-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm hesitant to say the advantage is in either court at this point because the last time everyone was so sure of it, it table flipped the electoral college and lit the nation on fire


[15-Jun-20 07:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing is a sure thing anymore, not even whether or not the election will get called or even held


[15-Jun-20 07:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, yeah the constitution says this and that, but it said a lot of other things about the way Trump's done things, too


[15-Jun-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
last election was me just going "you're jinxing it" as everyone declared hillary the winner half way through the election season


[15-Jun-20 07:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
heck, neither candidate is guaranteed to even survive until the election


[15-Jun-20 07:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
imagine the chaos that'd bring


[15-Jun-20 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It would be interesting to see what happens if both nominees die before the election concludes


[15-Jun-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1272524590795849728

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[15-Jun-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438422061753434112/720865733357207564


[15-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
deja vu


[15-Jun-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I've just been in this place before


[15-Jun-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
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[15-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1272572098964307968

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Gorsuch: Title VII protects gay people
Alito: Eww.
Gorsuch: And trans people.
Alito: How can we have a SOCIETY without knowing your genitals at birth!?
Gorsuch: Sam, are you okay?
Alito: NO NEIL. TURNS OUT HAVING A PENIS DOESN'T EVEN MATTER ANYMORE.
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[15-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
🤡


[15-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/alito-kavanaugh-dissents-lgbt-decision

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SCOTUS Dissenters Melt Down Over Pro-LGBT Ruling
The Supreme Court conservatives who refused to join Justices Neil Gorsuch, John Roberts and the court’s liberal wing to protect...
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[15-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Alito literally called Gorsuch's ruling a "pirate ship"


[15-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is amazing.


[15-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Alito pretty much went HOLY SHIT NEIL YOU DISHONOR SCALIA AND VIOLATED SEPARATION OF POWERS! ACTIVIST PIRATE!


[15-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh meanwhile was all GAY RIGHTS ARE COOL BUT MAKING LESBIANISM PART OF FEMINISM IS BAAAAAAAAAD


[15-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Alito has essentially aligned himself against judicial review, @Itsthinking


[15-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
He now thinks textualists saying that a civil rights act grants civil rights beyond what the common conservative at the time thinks count means that SCOTUS has overstepped its authority by actually interpreting the text of law.


[15-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up "pure applesauce"


[15-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
When Scalia objected to Obamacare?


[15-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[15-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said a lot of weird shit


[15-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Apparently Breyer said that one first.


[15-Jun-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Guess they like their euphemisms to avoid swearing.


[15-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
So Kavanaugh is literally playing the "I'm for gay rights just as long as we don't use feminism in them" card.


[15-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
If it was in MTG, I think it would give you mana when summoned to make up for how bad it is.


[15-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, I guess he doesn't get it *so hard* that he thinks he's playing both camps but is actually pissing both off.


[15-Jun-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe it's just me but without judicial review there really wouldn't be a need for the supreme court to exist


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes that's the idea.


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want to sabotage the court just like they're doing to federal agencies.


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
The goal is that the Executive has absolute control.


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democracy is a threat to their way of life so they are trying to dismantle it from within.


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Seneca Falls was not Stonewall."


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It kinda was though


[15-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Congress threatens the Executive? Impeach Congress!


[15-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Judiciary threatens the Executive? OVERREACH!


[15-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The end goal is blatantly an Executive with no other branches.


[15-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to first say only Congress writes law, then to bind Congress so its law can't bind the President.


[15-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
One Dictator Over All.


[15-Jun-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Seneca falls was not even remotely close in any aspect to stonewall, wtf


[15-Jun-20 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but if the law is to be enacted literally and without interpretation then the executive ought to be similarly restricted from interpretation. By granting the executive the power to interpret the law in order to carry it out, you imply that the law is not the Living Word and is in fact just a sheet of paper with no inherent morality of its own


[15-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh just wants to make excuses.


[15-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
He came up with random bullshit to justify trying to take away rights granted in a civil rights bill.


[15-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what happened where.


[15-Jun-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
The first pride was a riot :derpchrys:


[15-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh's end goal here is to say "CRA of 1964 didn't grant you rights" when that comes up, but also to say "Congress already considered this with the CRA of 1964, so you can't 14th amendment it"


[15-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same thing as a very common Twitter argument from the impeachment days:


[15-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Trump can't be impeached until the courts rule against him" combined with "The courts can't rule against Trump because only impeachment is the tool"


[15-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
The first one is completely incorrect and made up by shills, while the second one is a bunch of bullshit made up by the Executive.


[15-Jun-20 09:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically "ask your mother" "ask your father"


[15-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile your evil grandpa rapes you.


[15-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.insider.com/woman-san-antonio-police-officer-tampon-public-proposed-settlement-2019-10

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A woman is suing the city of San Antonio after a police officer pul...
San Antonio may award a woman $205,000 after she accused a police officer of inappropriately searching her and pulling out her tampon in public.
https://i.insider.com/5da76a32045a31573d2a9245?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[15-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
from october 2019


[15-Jun-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. she lost, & the police goes & gropes someone else


[15-Jun-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
This guy def has a fetish


[15-Jun-20 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
no, she won


[15-Jun-20 09:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't think it's a fetish when it's this vanilla.


[15-Jun-20 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/us/tampon-san-antonio.html

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By Isabella Kwai
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/us/tampon-san-antonio.html
Woman Who Said Officer Removed Her Tampon Will Receive $205,000
San Antonio approved the payout to Natalie Simms, 40, who said in a lawsuit that the officer violated her rights during a cavity search on the street in 2016.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/18/multimedia/18xp-settlement/18xp-settlement-facebookJumbo.jpg


[15-Jun-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just cop brain. YOU WILL TAKE PANTIES OFF I HAV BADGE


[15-Jun-20 09:17 PM] jlun2#8758
wow


[15-Jun-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically if you giv people unlimited authority, rape is inevitable in some form.


[15-Jun-20 09:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's human psychology 101.


[15-Jun-20 09:18 PM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie ||Now im curious are there any porn pics of police mass grope||


[15-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/l1BnGl1

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It smells like covert racism
https://i.imgur.com/I9c7Zvdh.jpg


[15-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
> Obama's presidency lasted longer than the Confederacy

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[15-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419421/Buffalo-teen-cleaned-riots-offered-car-college-scholarship-job-mayor.html

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419421/Buffalo-teen-cleaned-riots-offered-car-college-scholarship-job-mayor.html
Teen who cleaned up after riots get car, college scholarship and job
Antonio Gwynn Jr., 18, started cleaning Bailey Avenue in Buffalo, New York at 2am on June 1 because he didn't want people to have to travel through the mess on their way to work.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/14/16/29597068-0-image-a-41_1592148022706.jpg


[15-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/QwXQCsS.jpg

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https://imgur.com/QwXQCsS
At a protest in Arizona.
https://i.imgur.com/QwXQCsS.jpg


[15-Jun-20 09:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502741-trump-accuses-media-of-trying-to-shame-him-over-holding-tulsa-rally

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Trump accuses media of trying to 'shame' him over holding Tulsa ral...
President Trump on Monday accused the news media of attempting to “shame” his reelection campaign over plans to hold a rally during the coronavirus pandemic, accusing them of having “no Covid problem” in their coverage of natio
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_060120getty.jpg


[15-Jun-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
obligatory https://i.imgur.com/h3hnuGF.mp4

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[15-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/D3wbT22.jpeg

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Retirement for mitch
https://i.imgur.com/D3wbT22.jpg

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[15-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/4FvO2Ul.jpg

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https://imgur.com/4FvO2Ul
Rome was missing its wireless connectivity!
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[15-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If it is true, then it is very uncool...


[15-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup


[15-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
world economy would fuck up without us


[15-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
China would greatly miss us, yes.


[15-Jun-20 10:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And besides that, I know at least 2 countries, whose citizens wish things stayed as it is.


[15-Jun-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
Canada & Mexico?


[15-Jun-20 10:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
USSR and South Africa.


[15-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
When you hear people talking of previous regime fondly, things indeed went to hell.


[15-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/GU5JoUg

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https://imgur.com/gallery/GU5JoUg
Outrage over nothing does not require consistency.
https://i.imgur.com/GU5JoUg.png

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[15-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah the times Tucker goes from auth right to auth left over the course of a few sentences


[15-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't tell if this is genuine or ironic
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[15-Jun-20 11:03 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*And then they fuc—* wait where is she going


[15-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also >discriminates against predators


[15-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yeah...


[15-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I didn't know Nick was black :smugset:


[15-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://apnews.com/de12d7838ff3d0ff2c3abad0247eb8b3

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https://apnews.com/de12d7838ff3d0ff2c3abad0247eb8b3
Arkansas governor gives businesses virus lawsuit protections
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson on Monday granted health care providers and businesses protections against coronavirus lawsuits as the number of people hospitalized with...
https://apnews.com/images/ShareLogo2.png


[15-Jun-20 11:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
define "willful or reckless conduct"


[15-Jun-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause boy, there are an awful lot of policies businesses made during the pandemic that ran counter to CDC recommendations


[15-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police don't need extra immunity.


[15-Jun-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-stop-coronavirus-testing-right-now-have-very-few-cases-2020-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-stop-coronavirus-testing-right-now-have-very-few-cases-2020-6
Trump says that 'if we stop testing right now, we'd have very few c...
States across the country — particularly in the South and the West — are seeing spikes in new coronavirus cases.
https://i.insider.com/5ee237b54dca680ae4067a75?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[15-Jun-20 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-congressman-with-coronavirus-refused-to-wear-mask-in-capitol-2020-6

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https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-congressman-with-coronavirus-refused-to-wear-mask-in-capitol-2020-6
Republican congressman who just announced he has coronavirus refuse...
Rice said he stayed more than six feet away from others in the Capitol building while not wearing a mask.
https://i.insider.com/5ee7c8075af6cc049849d8ea?width=1200&format=jpeg

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[16-Jun-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
@Teaspoon it's loss


[16-Jun-20 12:44 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8Rq0sUceI

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George Salonikh l Metal Gear Solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8Rq0sUceI
relevant
relevant
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-8Rq0sUceI/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 12:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
very interesting video


[16-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beheading Christopher Colombus and other slaveowners in effigy is MAOISM?


[16-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the dumbest shit I've seen in a long time, I'm curious just what stupid strings are used to make this giant woven turd.


[16-Jun-20 12:46 AM] jlun2#8758
Yes ofc


[16-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
ever heard of the 4 olds? but yeah go ahead and watch


[16-Jun-20 12:46 AM] jlun2#8758
we chinese now


[16-Jun-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh I see


[16-Jun-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
so the argument is that getting rid of old ideas is bad because China did it?


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Maoism?*


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welp guys guess we hav to just stop changing anything!


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of all the communist sects they could have mentioned, why them?


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't criticize dead white people who did horrible shit and created institutions to prevent human rights, they're old!


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like saying I can't barge in on Hitler's funeral to say he was a bad guy.


[16-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because China is le current enemy.


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia's long-forgotten


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, yeah, maoists are pretty weird and crazy most of the time but they don’t monopolize the statue toppling moment lol


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia has embraced anti-gay capitalist white bullshit.


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, they see it as mission-accomplished there.


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even tho Russia is undermining us as a country.


[16-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's okay, cause they're conservative, guys!


[16-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chekked the video, deleted the post.


[16-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk off with your Hitler Ate Vegetables fallacy.

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[16-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
why did you delete the video?


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's disinformation and fallacy.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
See channel topic.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
wouldn't be better to keep it up and refute it instead?


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's fallacy.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has no place in argument.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
deleting it makes it seem like you can't tolerate it.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Indeed I can't.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Enjoy the mute.


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My dude, do you even know what maoism is


[16-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He does not.


[16-Jun-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nvm


[16-Jun-20 12:54 AM] wren#0114
this channel is p gay


[16-Jun-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
no u


[16-Jun-20 12:59 AM] wren#0114
:depressed:


[16-Jun-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
:no_u:


[16-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's the story today?


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Supreme Court


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
what was the video


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't fire people for being gay etc


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I want to hear a hot take on how removing slaveowner statues is maoism


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The MAOIST AGENDA Behind Toppling Historic Statues" by Felix Rex


[16-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first half is like


[16-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
BRITISH EMPIRE FREED SLAVES OTHER CULTURES PRACTICED SLAVERY OMGGGGG


[16-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then it shifts gears to say that the chaos in the US coming with removing old stuff is clearly from the 4 olds.


[16-Jun-20 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Always the outside agitators


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
Felix Rex?


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“Our minorities were so passive and happy until these darn intellectuals riled them up!”


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
this is Black Pigeon Speaks


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How unsurprising


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
someone who has had infamously terrible takes like "women can't play chess"


[16-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has another vid that's "China Building the World's Übermensch from the DNA Up"


[16-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it's like...they literally arrested the first scientist to break ethics rules and try to genetically engineer a human baby.


[16-Jun-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFZOXiM9SM

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFZOXiM9SM
Can Women Chess? Ft. Black Pigeon Speaks
By allowing women to chess freely, the West has de facto entered a matriarchy...

BPS Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TokyoAtomic
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEr04Ft9bQk

Chess review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RHLtx9r2LA

Contact:
https://twitter.com/s...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZHFZOXiM9SM/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man.


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait is this video serious


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the original? yeah


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEr04Ft9bQk

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Black Pigeon Speaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEr04Ft9bQk
Merkeling Mayhem / Womyn  DO Chess & Sweden YES!
⚫ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/blackpigeon?ty=h
If you would like to support this channel, it would be  GREATLY appreciated. 
⚫ Tip Jar: via PayPal to: navyhato@gmail.com 
⚫Amazing Video Editor Materials can be found at: digitaljuice.com
⚫ Twitter: https://twitter.com/navy...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SEr04Ft9bQk/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the original


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew this starts off well


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think i got radiation poisoning from that video’s incel energy


[16-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the like ratio is crazy for how totally nuts the premise is


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing is your fault


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alt right BS games YouTube's algorithm like crazy.


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all the fault of some liberal


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hate


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
hate


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're great


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
youtube has been combating it


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube's algorithm pushes people to more radical content.


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] byte[]#2610
notice how Shaun's criticism has more views than the original now


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can be like, cooking


[16-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
YouTube will just show you more extreme cooking.


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and a better l:d ratio too


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
BPS hates that, byte


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He considers it repression.


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's why he has the new channel with the new vids all in the last week.


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Felix Rex one.


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These people want "free speech" to mean "I say thing, you cannot respond"


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's trying to work around the system.


[16-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No comment sections ever.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No dialogue between people


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
etc


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alt right content usually has very active comment sections.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's part of the game.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They communicate with their fans more.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*No comment section that you don't police


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Delete any liberal comments.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Curate things to be as crazy as possible.


[16-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Helps with the algorithm.


[16-Jun-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
TIL you need a penis to play chess. I guess my penis is defective since I can't play it (and win).


[16-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
you also have be a _man_


[16-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
can't have no trannies playing chess


[16-Jun-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
but seriously millions of people believe that? rip


[16-Jun-20 01:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie I wonder if its the same 10 ppl talking (like this channel) or tons of diff ppl in those vids


[16-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In BPS vids? Single person in the video.


[16-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Comments are randos.


[16-Jun-20 01:28 AM] jlun2#8758
was asking about comments sorry
same 10 randos or lots of diff ppl :ponythinking:


[16-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many randos.


[16-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's curated to be the crazies.


[16-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, para-social relationships.


[16-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The creator and the fans, creator pretends they're all his friends, and because they know so much about his life or philosophy, they *feel like* they are.


[16-Jun-20 01:34 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[16-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477087025615601667/722168605952835784/image0.png

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[16-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Synfag#9241
https://nationalfile.com/deer-injures-3-blm-protesters-by-running-into-crowd-in-new-jersey/

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Lionel Du Cane
https://nationalfile.com/deer-injures-3-blm-protesters-by-running-into-crowd-in-new-jersey/
Deer Injures 3 Black Lives Matter Protesters by Running Into New Je...
A woman was seriously injured, along with two others, after a deer ran into a crowd of Black Lives Matter
https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Deer-Injures-BLM.jpg


[16-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Synfag#9241
found the racist deer


[16-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
jesus


[16-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna have to delete that, animal cruelty is against the TOS


[16-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And, like, that may not have been intentional, but...


[16-Jun-20 01:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
ok. Most of the red parts on the ground were from the car not the deer.


[16-Jun-20 01:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it happens a lot of race tracks. no matter how high they build a fence an animal always finds its way on to the track.


[16-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man https://shorensteincenter.org/anatomy-of-alt-right-youtuber/

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https://shorensteincenter.org/anatomy-of-alt-right-youtuber/
Black Pigeon Speaks: The Anatomy of the Worldview of an Alt-Right Y...
Disclaimer: This paper contains offensive content. “Alt-right” views quoted in this paper are not endorsed by the Shorenstein Center. A new paper by Zack Exley, Joan Shorenstein Fellow (spring 2017), organizer and author dives into a little-known part of the...
https://shorensteincenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Hands-at-keyboard.jpg


[16-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, BPS is Occupy Wallstreet, but with "Wallstreet" crossed out in favor of DA JEWS


[16-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He thinks late-stage capitalism is a plot to destroy white culture by replacing declining white populations with Muslims at the behest of Jews.

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[16-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then everything else is just filled with WOMEN and CHINA


[16-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60WULV7XRY

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Space Commune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60WULV7XRY
NPIC: Will the revolution be funded?
Your humble narrator, Fox, will take you through his thought process and first-hand experience as a housing justice organizer, delving into the question of whether or not the socialist revolution will be, or even should funded, specifically, via the nonprofit industrial comple...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M60WULV7XRY/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Choyner


[16-Jun-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wamen and Choyner


[16-Jun-20 02:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think all racetracks should be forced to have animal spotters and dedicated warning flags like Australian tracks do. 
Too many animals get hit on the tracks and they always say it would cost too much. Or if they are real assholes "ruin the sport"
https://youtu.be/LPvNzFgUU6Q

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Motorsport tv Global
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPvNzFgUU6Q
Bathurst 12 Hour: Kangaroos on track!
Kangaroos crossing! 🦘🦘🦘Must be racing fans like us. 
Enjoy our free livestream of #Bathurst12H practice and qualifying all day Saturday: https://motorsport.tv/program/bathurst-12-hour/164


#Bathurst12Hour


Not available in Aus/NZ
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LPvNzFgUU6Q/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 02:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/2GNl0FB-Z6s

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Autosport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GNl0FB-Z6s
Bathurst 12 Hour: This kangaroo on Mount Panorama is the best thing...
Today in Bathurst12H news, this kangaroo had a little track time on Mount Panorama 🦘Listen to the commentators have fun too 😂


Free livestream all day Saturday and Sunday: https://motorsport.tv/program/bathurst-12-hour/164


#NoAnimalsWereHarmed


Not available in Aus/NZ
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[16-Jun-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Synfag#9241
https://itch.io/b/520/bundle-for-racial-justice-and-equality

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Bundle for Racial Justice and Equality by itch.io and 1361 others
Bundle for Racial Justice and Equality: 1704 items for $5.00
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[16-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Synfag#9241
already raised $7,661,277.32


[16-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Synfag#9241
and still going


[16-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Ooo celeste is on there


[16-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_A lot_ is on there


[16-Jun-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
soooooo much


[16-Jun-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of art and took kits for game development as well


[16-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rise up (for good)

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[16-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
A lot is on there but I've only heard of celeste. The rest seem like random indie games of wildly varying quality


[16-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I wouldn't expect anything else, but still


[16-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Celeste is so good and would be worth the 5 bucks by itself


[16-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Just sayin


[16-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh and night in the woods is on there too


[16-Jun-20 03:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
NITW is also easily worth the five bucks


[16-Jun-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/RoFAjQzZcnc

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Jack Cat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFAjQzZcnc
Night in the Woods - Selmers' Def Jam Poetry
Selmers is fuckin woke af
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RoFAjQzZcnc/maxresdefault.jpg


[16-Jun-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
Selmer's based af


[16-Jun-20 03:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
She actually reminds me of a woman I worked with.


[16-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I really liked watching a letsplay on that


[16-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I never got around to doing it myself though


[16-Jun-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Mööd

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[16-Jun-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/yr7k5wjml5551

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Officer chocking a guy for no reason. He was later charged with res...
Posted in r/PublicFreakout by u/Alexander0232 • 25,319 points and 1,524 comments
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[16-Jun-20 05:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
finally. a statue worthy of England. https://www.bestofbristol.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/1statue.jpg

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[16-Jun-20 05:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
someone put this near the one that went in the river.


[16-Jun-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
bigger vers https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EagOGQyX0AIYDQr.jpg:orig

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[16-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/nypd-officers-poisoned-shake-shack/3196868001/

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NYPD investigating after 3 officers were 'intentionally poisoned' a...
The New York Police Department is investigating whether three officers were poisoned on Monday night at a Shake Shack restaurant in Manhattan.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b9e55dd96ab0e43275aa5e8bddeca683bd204b3d/c=0-120-1798-1136/local/-/media/2018/06/12/USATODAY/USATODAY/636644266182599190-GettyImages-471682711.jpg?width=1798&height=1016&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[16-Jun-20 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/three-nypd-officers-hospitalized-after-eating-at-manhattan-shack-shake-police/2465942/

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Three NYPD Officers Hospitalized After Eating at Manhattan Shake Sh...
As they were eating, the officers found that a substance, believed to be some sort of cleaning solution or disinfectant, was in their beverages, the police union said in a message to officers.
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[16-Jun-20 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
> The three cops assigned to watch over protests went to the restaurant in Fulton Center around 8:30 p.m., according to police, and ordered milkshakes with their meals. As they were eating, the officers found that a substance, believed to be some sort of cleaning solution or disinfectant, was in their beverages, the Police Benevolent Association said in a message to officers later in the night.


[16-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Crow#5457
maybe one of those crazies who thinks drinking disinfectant cures coronavirus did it


[16-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Lfdqg2K

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A small selection of the many horrifying reasons
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[16-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/Phot4jE.jpeg

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[16-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/384oysg


[16-Jun-20 10:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/pence-governors-misleading-claim-coronavirus-outbreaks-nyt-2020-6

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Mike Pence reportedly urged governors to reiterate a misleading cla...
Pence told governors to cite the upticks in cases to increased testing, the New York Times reported, though evidence suggests otherwise.
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[16-Jun-20 10:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/722359341000163338/YBTziBf.jpeg

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[16-Jun-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/722359371790549022/UfADYGP.jpeg

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[16-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53060620

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N Korea blows up joint liaison office with South
South Korea's Unification Ministry confirmed an explosion at the office, which is in the North.
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[16-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53059437

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North Korea threatens to send army into border zone
The sister of North Korea's leader has instructed the army - and the military says it's ready to move.
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[16-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NK pissy the news hasn't focussed on them in months I guess


[16-Jun-20 12:45 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Damned North Korea


[16-Jun-20 12:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Every year hundreds of North Korean escape from their country to China, many of them just get drown in the river and our PLA have to find and bury their bodies


[16-Jun-20 01:37 PM] PwnyPony#6185
ISPs are fucking shit. Throttling an entire neighbourhood?
https://youtu.be/TWYILnIoUZo?t=1214
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/cox-slows-internet-speeds-in-entire-neighborhoods-to-punish-any-heavy-users/

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Gamers Nexus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWYILnIoUZo&start=1214
HW News - RTX 3000 Leaks, 4nm TSMC Node, Sony PS5 Design, & Intel L...
Hardware news this week talks NVIDIA RTX 3080 & 3090 GPU leaks, Sony's PlayStation 5 design, Intel's Lakefield, ISP throttling, and more.
Sponsor: TEAM T-Force Xtreem ARGB RAM (Amazon - https://geni.us/YuyE9)

Show notes: https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3595-hw-news-rtx-30...
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Cox slows Internet speeds in entire neighborhoods to punish any hea...
Cox warns customers to lower usage, imposes 10Mbps upload limit on “gigabit” plan.
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[16-Jun-20 01:39 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Stop using what we are providing you with or we will slow down your neighbourhood keep it up and we will block you.


[16-Jun-20 01:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
No use, only pay!

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[16-Jun-20 02:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
If a company can get away with just extracting money you can be sure they will do that. It's why it's believed ponzi and pyramid schemes are the natural state of the market, and not an abhorition


[16-Jun-20 02:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
And are probably far more prevalant at the high level that we are lead to assume


[16-Jun-20 02:53 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/SMULawSchool/status/1270876254254895105

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SMU Dedman School of Law (@SMULawSchool)
https://twitter.com/SMULawSchool/status/1270876254254895105
A statement from SMU Dedman School of Law.
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[16-Jun-20 03:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1272797595765702656

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BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking)
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1272797595765702656
Three Indian soldiers killed in clash with Chinese forces in Ladakh in disputed Kashmir region amid rising tensions https://t.co/SGGlsKeVvt
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[16-Jun-20 03:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good morning Kashmir


[16-Jun-20 03:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2020/06/16/nypd-finds-no-criminality-by-shake-shack-workers-in-case-of-sickened-cops/

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NYPD finds ‘no criminality’ by Shake Shack workers in case of sicke...
The NYPD said it found no criminality by Shake Shack workers in connection with the hospitalization of three officers who drank milkshakes they believe may have been spiked with bleach, a police of…
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/shake-shack-001-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1


[16-Jun-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
How did this get through under Trump?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53055632

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US Supreme Court backs protection for LGBT workers
Watershed moment for LGBT rights in US as Supreme Court rules workplace law protects gay and transgender employees.
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[16-Jun-20 03:15 PM] Crow#5457
fourth time that's been linked


[16-Jun-20 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
it got through because the law is pretty explicit on the definition of "sex" in terms of the civil rights act of 1964


[16-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
I wonder how long it'll be until trump is ranting and raving about impeaching gorsuch and roberts


[16-Jun-20 03:26 PM] Synfag#9241
```
To ssh://github.com/ASynfigUser/dotfiles! 
[rejected]        master -> master (non-fast-forward)
error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git@github.com/ASynfigUser/dotfiles'
remote: Updates were rejected because this branch name contains terms or
remote: phrases that are not allowed. Push to a different branch or review
remote: your repo settings before pushing again.
```


[16-Jun-20 03:27 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.zdnet.com/article/github-to-replace-master-with-alternative-term-to-avoid-slavery-references/

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GitHub to replace "master" with alternative term to avoid slavery r...
GitHub getting on board legitimizes movement aimed at removing racially-charged language from software.
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[16-Jun-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1272737867576590336 meanwhile trump is talking to himself

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1272737867576590336
So true! https://t.co/E8Fy0zuKQB
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[16-Jun-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's like one of those users who would be using 2 different accounts to make it look like a conversation but he has too much of an ego to do that himself


[16-Jun-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.technologynetworks.com/immunology/news/mutation-of-coronavirus-is-significantly-increasing-its-ability-to-infect-336067

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Mutation of Coronavirus Is Significantly Increasing Its Ability To ...
A tiny genetic mutation in the SARS-CoV-2 variant circulating throughout Europe and the United States significantly increases the virus’ ability to infect cells.
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[16-Jun-20 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ever noticed how conservatives on social media love posting screenshots of their own posts for some reason


[16-Jun-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s because they love to hear themselves speak and agree with every word they say


[16-Jun-20 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m surprised Trump hasnt made a multi tweet thread about how his scotus nominees are liberal traitors by now


[16-Jun-20 06:48 PM] AaronMk#4499
Who here remembers when General John Brown and his lieutenant Karl Marx and their 69th Light Cavalry charged and routed Joseph Goebbels' 38th Virginia National Guard at the Battle of Owo Bulge


[16-Jun-20 06:58 PM] Synfag#9241
> Owo Bulge


[16-Jun-20 06:58 PM] Synfag#9241
:rarityhmm:


[16-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@PwnyPony what a 3rd world mentality.


[16-Jun-20 07:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502964-trump-order-to-ban-chokeholds-unless-officers-life-in-danger

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Trump order to ban chokeholds unless officer's life in danger
President Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order on police reform amid a broad national debate sparked by the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, which has itself led to heightened calls to address racial justice issues in the Unite
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[16-Jun-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502961-trump-calls-school-choice-the-civil-rights-issue-of-the-decade

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Trump calls school choice the civil rights issue of the decade
President Trump on Tuesday described the issue of school choice as the civil rights issue of the decade "and probably beyond."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald3_06162020getty.jpg


[16-Jun-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look, empty meaningless words


[16-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476

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Twenty Indian troops killed in China clash
At least 20 Indians died in clashes with Chinese forces in Kashmir, India says, far more than first reported.
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[16-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFqoReof6A

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The Tom Lehrer Wisdom Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFqoReof6A
Tom Lehrer - So Long Mom (A Song for WW III) - with intro
http://www.amazon.com/Tom-Lehrer-Collection-CD-DVD/dp/B0039TD73G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284930177&sr=8-3

Use the above link and get the uninterrupted Lehrer TV-performance and The Tom Lehrer Collection from Amazon.com.

http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?...
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[16-Jun-20 07:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/458763139866435584?s=20

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/458763139866435584?s=20
The way President Obama runs down the stairs of Air Force 1, hopping & bobbing all the way, is so inelegant and unpresidential. Do not fall!
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[16-Jun-20 07:35 PM] wren#0114
I wonder if trump is ever going to declassify obama's last name


[16-Jun-20 07:35 PM] byte[]#2610
mrs obama get down

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[16-Jun-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/502922-house-democrats-to-vote-next-week-on-dc-statehood

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House Democrats to vote next week on DC statehood
House Democratic leaders are racing ahead with legislation to grant statehood to Washington, D.C., scheduling a June 26 vote on the historic — and highly controversial — bill, which will arrive amid the heightened calls for black empowe
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[16-Jun-20 07:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/lihb44kw09551.png

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[16-Jun-20 07:49 PM] wren#0114
:xd:


[16-Jun-20 07:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
personally i don't like most of them because of how quickly they jump to "is it cause i am a trans???" every damn time


[16-Jun-20 07:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
even when it is something unrelated


[16-Jun-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
sure, but that's not the argument here


[16-Jun-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't feel pressured into dating a person if they never ask you out


[16-Jun-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[16-Jun-20 07:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I do not think anyone seriously said that


[16-Jun-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a common one


[16-Jun-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not the only one, but it is common


[16-Jun-20 07:52 PM] wren#0114
what if he's mad because he's the one who asked them out


[16-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I can sorta understand the argument actually
Despite how crazy it seems


[16-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There are plenty of trans people who bully/threaten/cancel others abusing their own  privileged "victimhood"
So it is not that impossible that someone can force a person into doing their bidding by threatening to call him a transphobe aloud, destroying their public image


[16-Jun-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
that is again not the argument


[16-Jun-20 08:01 PM] byte[]#2610
you missed the point entirely


[16-Jun-20 08:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The point is to laugh at the strawman?


[16-Jun-20 08:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
🤔


[16-Jun-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
the ad hom strawman, which is easily rectified by a simple substitution that I almost guarantee is true for anyone saying this


[16-Jun-20 08:02 PM] byte[]#2610
"has a trans person ever asked you out"


[16-Jun-20 08:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
honestly, I'd rather look at people who say that


[16-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump arguing for school choice is good, but I strongly suspect he doesn't mean what liberals mean.


[16-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
"School choice" to him means we giv mainly white kids vouchers to go to private schools, which happen to not be in areas blakk kids are.


[16-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not actually being able to select from multiple public schools, which would let blakk kids start to mix in more.


[16-Jun-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
I'm just waiting for the great white flight to mars @Nebbie


[16-Jun-20 08:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://tumblingxelian.tumblr.com/post/621082776071012352

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[16-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Interesting.


[16-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0144818818301194


[16-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Specifically, in the presence of controls for neighborhood and time effects, Whites are more likely to assault and use weapons against Blacks and Hispanics than Blacks and Hispanics are to assault or use weapons against Whites.
>On the other hand, Blacks and Hispanics are typically more likely to commit robbery (crimes which we characterize as being often related to economic motives) against Whites than the reverse.


[16-Jun-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502796-thomas-jefferson-statue-toppled-in-oregon

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Thomas Jefferson statue toppled in Oregon
A statue of Thomas Jefferson was reportedly toppled Sunday night outside a high school in Portland, Ore., named for the former president.
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[16-Jun-20 09:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dpakman/status/1272963257683382272?s=19

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[16-Jun-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's persuing it!


[16-Jun-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're going to take down the sewer clown once and for all!


[16-Jun-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Today in "dumb shit I read online"
https://lifehacker.com/ditch-these-racist-terms-from-your-tech-vocabulary-1844041452

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Ditch These Racist Terms From Your Tech Vocabulary
The tech industry has a lot of work to do in the fight for racial justice and equality. But while hiring black employees and other under-represented minorities in the field is crucial, there are subtler issues that need to be addressed, too. That includes reflecting on and cha...
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[16-Jun-20 09:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
@Эᴚ|∫ what is a 3rd world mentally? 
Animals should not be getting hit by race cars?
ISPs are greedy shits? or
Surprise that something progressive could come from a regressive government?


[16-Jun-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean they're going to hire more non whites & women, or nah just control F replace everything with the word "black" & say "we did it! we solved racism!" @Teaspoon


[16-Jun-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably the latter


[16-Jun-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s easier and cheaper than hiring new people


[16-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> I wish someone had consulted with me. I have plenty of master/slave alternatives: 😉
> 
> vampire & thrall
> 
> villain & minion
> 
> diva & backup_singer
> 
> Fred & Shaggy
> 
> management & nonexempt_employee
> 
> Olimar & pikman


[16-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
lol


[16-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@PwnyPony ISP greed because of lack of customers due to already extortive prices, therefore we need to chase away customers. That's what happened here to fixed line provider, they ended up bleeding customers


[16-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
My Olimar branch


[16-Jun-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope suddenlink doesnt start doing the same


[16-Jun-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they monopolized my area, so i;m fucked if they do


[16-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or ISPs do that because they are cheapscate to provide their infrastructure to handle that demand. Here it was a thing because of fixed line provider expensive interconnect pricing


[16-Jun-20 09:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
and  since market started expanding with competition, they totally tanked. For context, it was a state owned company with zilch sense of business


[16-Jun-20 09:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But it was a difficult business case back then, internet was a niche market.


[16-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Attempting to provide capacity to 20 people at cost of 1, AKA "Contention Ratio"


[16-Jun-20 09:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like state ownership was the problem. Run it into the ground and sell it to the private sector is a tactic used by governments around the world.


[16-Jun-20 09:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Nope. It is used as "run into ground and then use state funds to rescue it"


[16-Jun-20 09:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
and then these fund vanish into nowhere


[16-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/502948-calls-grow-to-remove-statue-of-lincoln-standing-over-freed

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Calls grow to remove statue of Lincoln standing over freed black ma...
More than 9,000 people have signed a petition calling on the removal of Boston’s Emancipation Memorial.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_lincolnstatueremovalpetition_061620getty.jpg


[16-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
no wonder people want that statue removed, that's inappropriate as fuck


[16-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Holy fuck


[16-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
No kidding


[16-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
they should replace it with one that just has lincoln


[16-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@PwnyPony And people really wish that these businesses were sold off for good.


[16-Jun-20 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fox News niggas be like


[16-Jun-20 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[16-Jun-20 09:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53059633

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NZ's first Covid cases in 24 days came from UK
The two women had been given special exemption to visit a dying parent in New Zealand.
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[16-Jun-20 09:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I said UK should be travel restricted months ago.


[16-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I see Brazil already overtook UK in deaths


[16-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Nothing will beat us


[16-Jun-20 10:05 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Murica! Murica! Murica!


[16-Jun-20 10:21 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1272932450277175296?s=19

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https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1272932450277175296?s=19
IDIOT. @realDonaldTrump just praised the scientists who came up with “the #AIDS vaccine.”

There‘s NO effective #vaccine for #HIV / AIDS.🙄

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[16-Jun-20 10:22 PM] illumnious#7938
@Raptorshy don't worry, Murica is next for the blame


[16-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/what-we-know-about-the-killing-of-rayshard-brooks.html

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Everything We Know About the Killing of Rayshard Brooks by Atlanta ...
Atlanta police officer Garrett Rolfe, who shot and killed Brooks as he was running away, has been fired and may be charged with murder.
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/059/9b1/2718037ef54486cbb426e11187ad3b9b6d-Rayshard-Brooks.2x.rsocial.w600.jpg


[16-Jun-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's a big think right there


[16-Jun-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-executive-order-on-policing-pro-police-low-on-substance-2020-6

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Trump's executive order on policing is pro-police and doesn't call ...
Trump's executive order is primarily concerned with not demonizing police officers and low on substance.
https://i.insider.com/5ee8fcb1988ee33541487c64?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Jun-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "We will have reform without undermining our great police officers," Trump said in announcing the executive order on Tuesday. "Americans want law and order. They demand law and order. They may not say it; they may not be talking about it, but that's what they want. Some of them don't even know that that's what they want. But that's what they want."
> 
> "Without police, there is chaos," he added.


[16-Jun-20 10:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why he looks so out of place on this photo.


[16-Jun-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It feels like he's struggling to stay conscious


[16-Jun-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now i;m wondering if he actually did take the hydroxychloroquine and it;s killing him rapidly


[16-Jun-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his face is getting saggier, i didnt think that was possible


[16-Jun-20 10:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably just editors choosing the photos where he looks the worst


[16-Jun-20 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1272980865933508608?s=09

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Supporters are camping out DAYS before Saturday's #TulsaRally!

"Excitement is building around President Trump's visit to Tulsa...People are setting up tents outside the BOK Center hoping to catch a glimpse of President Trump." https://t.co/MJD5MlcKxF
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[16-Jun-20 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me


[16-Jun-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
>supporters are camping out days before [...]


[16-Jun-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
isn't that ... literally just astroturfing


[16-Jun-20 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
It's horrible


[16-Jun-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Coronavirus is ramping like a bitch


[16-Jun-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
And this is what they want to do????????


[16-Jun-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1272963060962115584?s=19

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Headlines in the era of Trump.  Are we great yet?
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[16-Jun-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Oof


[16-Jun-20 11:06 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought everyone in developed countries is miserable tho @ top left


[16-Jun-20 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
@Teaspoon A fun addition I would like to make of this is: if you are claiming these statues as part of your heritage, are you not identifying a part of them, or the role of them into your self identity? Whether unwittingly or not. I was thinking about the issue earlier today or last night and comparing it against a point James Baldwin made in a speech he made in the US Institute of the West Indies or something in the sixties. In it he said something about how white Americans have a race problem, not in the sense that they make blacks to suffer but they have a problem with their self-identification. He relates this broken relationship to how through American history White America has relied on using the labor of Black America from slavery to the modern day, where blacks were responsible for the production of much of white settler society's wealth over them (he also discusses South Africa in this sense as well). 

The conclusion of sorts I take away from this with the added element of these statues is that if you stan for them, you are at the very least unwittingly and naively associating yourself with a period of American history where wealth was obtained from the sweat of black labor and identifying it as part of your heritage - fitting or not - just slots you into that very same and old relationship. At worst you are actively striving for a return to this very same relationship and probably own stocks or part ownership of a prison and a incarceration company or do want the plantation back again. The call for removal of these statues isn't strictly a realization that it will fix the problems, but will break the physical identification with the historical relationship even though the abstract will still exist via learned history, which doesn't mean you have to learn it bad: you just end up really identifying with the role of the white man in the white-black relationship.


[16-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
> I’m as anti-Trump as it gets, but the one article is from 2011


[16-Jun-20 11:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways that's my pseud-Hegelian sociological hour. Time to put on music and play Animal Crossing


[16-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eap5HOdWsAA5EOu.jpg:orig

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[16-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
> October 13, 2011


[16-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they really meant:


[16-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Country is headed by a black person and that's bad"


[16-Jun-20 11:09 PM] jlun2#8758
so they just want white obama


[16-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Well they had that chance with Trump and he fucked it up :twismug:


[16-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[16-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
cursed


[16-Jun-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
blursed


[16-Jun-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
White fratboy Obama


[16-Jun-20 11:30 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Why do I suddenly respect him :lyrathonk:


[16-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I kid, I already do


[16-Jun-20 11:31 PM] wren#0114
question


[16-Jun-20 11:31 PM] wren#0114
does he still retain n word pass


[16-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but only cause of his daddy's money to cover up his usage of it.


[16-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the paid version instead of free 2 play.


[16-Jun-20 11:33 PM] wren#0114
op pls nerf


[16-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/florida-bars-restaurants-close-coronavirus-spike-outbreak-a9568631.html

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Florida bars and restaurants close just a week after reopening
Businesses on Jacksonville Beach shutdown as state’s second coronavirus wave hits
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[16-Jun-20 11:39 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> A woman among those infected told Action News Jax on Monday that all 15, who were friends, had tested positive following a 6 June gathering at the pub.


[16-Jun-20 11:39 PM] rdibp#7607
Florida looks like it's headed to be the lead in cases


[16-Jun-20 11:39 PM] rdibp#7607
2700 cases today


[16-Jun-20 11:39 PM] rdibp#7607
And Broward (my county) is almost up to 10k :scared:


[16-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Surprising absolutely nobody


[16-Jun-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Well Florida contains "The Villages"


[16-Jun-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Wz1KhdSRw

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Welcome to "The Villages" | Chapo Trap House | Episode 221 CLIP
We discuss the horrifying pro-Trump retirement community recently profiled by Politico.
feat. Osita Nwanevu

buy our book: chapotraphouse.com/book
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[16-Jun-20 11:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which means because Florida is 75% boomer who consider themselves immortal


[16-Jun-20 11:44 PM] rdibp#7607
I wonder if I'm the only Florida Man here :ponythinking:


[16-Jun-20 11:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
They will of course not care about anything and believe everything is a liberal lie.


[16-Jun-20 11:45 PM] jlun2#8758
wait boomers arent immortal wtf?


[16-Jun-20 11:45 PM] jlun2#8758
time to drink more young blood


[16-Jun-20 11:46 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think The Villages already had a high rate of infection. Sort of like how they have one of the highest rates of STDs in the country if not the state because all those old people do is fuck and fuck


[16-Jun-20 11:49 PM] jlun2#8758
TIL. i thought they hate porn & sex because ✝️


[16-Jun-20 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i hate porn and sex because ☪️


[16-Jun-20 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Allahu akbar

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[17-Jun-20 12:19 AM] AaronMk#4499
> TIL. i thought they hate porn & sex because ✝️
@jlun2 

They say that but then they all go to Kink.com


[17-Jun-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/503045-mcconnell-rejects-push-to-airbrush-the-capitol-of-confederate-statues

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McConnell rejects push to 'airbrush the Capitol' of Confederate sta...
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday rejected calls to remove statues of Confederate figures from the Capitol, reiterating that he thinks the decision should be made by states.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/stephensalexanderhamilton_statue_061120getty.jpg


[17-Jun-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Don't airbrush the Capitol to remove people who wanted to burn it to the ground"


[17-Jun-20 12:23 AM] jlun2#8758
time to go statue hunting


[17-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
wtf


[17-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's the CAPITOL


[17-Jun-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should the STATES hav any fukking say?


[17-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Mikey#7286
wasn't sure where to put this so https://www.vg247.com/2020/06/16/indies-steam-removed-black-lives-matter-silence/

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Indie devs remove their games from Steam over Valve's silence on Bl...
A number of indie developers are pulling their games from Steam because of Valve's reluctance to comment on Black Lives Matter.
https://assets.vg247.com/current//2019/03/steam_logo_crop_lg.jpg


[17-Jun-20 12:30 AM] jlun2#8758
rip games


[17-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Mikey#7286
a whole 3 games


[17-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Mikey#7286
also i think Valve is doing the right thing but staying silent, tbh


[17-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday rejected calls to remove statues of Confederate figures from the Capitol, reiterating that he thinks the decision should be made by states.
But the Capitol isn't in a state...


[17-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking christ


[17-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Not everyone wants to speak up, some want to stay out of it, and sometimes speaking up leads to more problems the profit.


[17-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[17-Jun-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like them speaking up would change anything tbh


[17-Jun-20 12:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And remember, when the states say "remove them", Mitch will just say "well you don't control this"


[17-Jun-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 lies. #slacktivism for life


[17-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> “Over the past few weeks, Steam and Valve have chosen not to address the Black Lives Matter movement, failing to make even a broad and generic statement about racial justice,” the message reads.


[17-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*make even a broad and generic statement*


[17-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
If Valve had made a 'broad and generic' statement, then they would cry that it wasn't enough


[17-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Mikey#7286
yeah


[17-Jun-20 12:40 AM] jlun2#8758
immortal mitch


[17-Jun-20 12:40 AM] wren#0114
isnt dc trying to become a state


[17-Jun-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but that wouldn't encompass the Capitol buildings anyways.


[17-Jun-20 12:41 AM] wren#0114
does this mean the union capitol is the last stand of dixie

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[17-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The parasite known as the Confederacy.


[17-Jun-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
valve's decision not to make a statement either way is probably just to avoid irking the wrath of Gamers™️


[17-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
gay murrs

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[17-Jun-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Jun-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gay mergirls

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[17-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jun-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
yeet


[17-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Crow#5457

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[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Mikey#7286
@byte[] or they just want to avoid any b.s.


[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
isn't that _literally_ what I just said


[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Mikey#7286
you said the gamers


[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Mikey#7286
lol


[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
who uses steam


[17-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
could it be


[17-Jun-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
people who play games??????


[17-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Mikey#7286
i said _any_ b.s. cuz the people calling for them to do something would continue to bitch


[17-Jun-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
:thonkbutcool:


[17-Jun-20 01:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That emo girl. Finally someone more pale than me.


[17-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> valve's decision not to make a statement either way is probably just to avoid irking the wrath of Gamerstm
Most companies should do this honestly. It's way too controversial to get involved with in an otherwise unrelated company. Nobody is looking at steam and thinking "I wonder what they think about BLM"


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I am


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Mikey#7286
I agree Raptor


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Mikey#7286
i don't care what their opinions on it are


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Mikey#7286
no corporation truly cares anyway


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
but more than donating to BLM, I find myself wondering if they are ever going to properly give their virulently sexist and racist subfactions the finger


[17-Jun-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
the Gamers™️ of the world


[17-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
they just want to be "in" and pretend they care to appease loud people


[17-Jun-20 01:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This should be a fight for proletarians anyway, not corporations tbh


[17-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't doubt their genuineness, but getting involved with politics is a good way to fuck over your company


[17-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Mikey#7286
yup


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Unless you're actually *doing* something to help it. Just making a statement is going to hurt much more than help.


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
is donating to the cause not helpful


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Mikey#7286
also most "gamers™️" just wanna play games


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Mildly helpful


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
because these companies have put their money where their mouth is


[17-Jun-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the big ones donating tens of millions of dollars


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nobody really cares still though


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
have they, though?


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The bad PR is likely not worth it


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
it's easy to say you donated to a cause


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Mikey#7286
and not really have done it


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
the bad PR... from racists?


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
what are you talking about


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
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[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
When your boss forces you into diversity training


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
And there is evidently a whole industry about this


[17-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Bad PR from from from getting involved in political bullshit unrelated to your business


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"say something about BLM"


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"ok"


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"that's not good enough"


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"we donated"


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
"still not enough"


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
everything is political, and when you have a scope as large as valve, the visible effects of your behavior (or lack thereof) matter


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] wren#0114
everything shouldn't be political


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Crow#5457
the only people who would be mad about a company taking a stance against racism are racists


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
too bad, everything is political


[17-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Mikey#7286
not everything is political


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, it is


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
how


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
BLM is very controversial right now because it's associated with a whole slew of destructive behavior and questionable practices. Whether that stuff is associated with BLM is irrelevant


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
because it is logically impossible not to be


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
do you want a reductio ad absurdum


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
so just walking down the street to grab a drink from the local 7 11 is political


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
in a whole bunch of ways


[17-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Mikey#7286
explain


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You know what we mean by political


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it puts weight behind implicit policies of capitalism and manufactured goods


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
as well as the existence of store chains like 7/11


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] wren#0114
obsession


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
jesus


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Mikey#7286
that's really picking at cherries


[17-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's not inherently controversial and watering down the word to make your point is probably a bigass fallacy


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I can't think of which though


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I can let nebbie do it for you then


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure you'd prefer that, right


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Mikey#7286
no thanks


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
50/50


[17-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
the currency you use, who you pay to use the street, how much you pay for the drink, whether or not you pay taxes, how you get treated while making the purchase, the fact you're buying a drink at a chain store to begin with and not a local business


[17-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
everything is political because it's impossible to have human interaction without some form of politics


[17-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
beating someone you disagree with is a political statement


[17-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
war is a political tool


[17-Jun-20 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don’t care about corporations donating a tiny fraction of their income. I’ll only be happy when they disappear once and for all, the means of production they controlled put under the ownership of the proletarian class as a collective including people of color... only then can racism disappear once and for all


[17-Jun-20 01:18 AM] wren#0114
why is your worldview founded on politics


[17-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
bartering/negotiations are inherently political


[17-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
because I came to the logical conclusion that it had to be


[17-Jun-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even the free time you use to post memes and rest is a result of labor struggle btw


[17-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
1. I refuse to make a political statement.
2. Refusing to make a political statement is a political statement.
3. Contradiction


[17-Jun-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Otherwise we’d be working the coal mines 24/7


[17-Jun-20 01:20 AM] wren#0114
refusing to make a statement is only political if you're doing it for politics' sake


[17-Jun-20 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just... asking you to realize the action and sacrifice that was necessary to bring you everything you hold dear in this society


[17-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Mikey#7286
not saying anything is not a political statement


[17-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Mikey#7286
Valve didn't say "we're not saying anything"


[17-Jun-20 01:21 AM] wren#0114
like, living your life and choosing political stances as necessary, doesn't mean that you have to use politics to frame every scenario


[17-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the approach here is wrong


[17-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
@wren define "political"


[17-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or MIkey, or Raptor or whoever.


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But someone **define it**.


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't argue about what a word applies to without knowing what it means.


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
like


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
actual politics


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or it may not hav one meaning to know


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
♻️


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a definition, your definition cannot be cyclical.


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Mikey#7286
:notbestpony:


[17-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You must define politics in terms of other ideas that are themselves not defined in terms of it with any level of indirection.


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
real life politics


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
as in


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
republican


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
democrat


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Mikey#7286
etc


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
for me: politics: the study of how humans define social rules and structures


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>politicians


[17-Jun-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
that's my definition


[17-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Politics is what we relegate to this channel


[17-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
this is from wikipedia and sue me, it's more reliable than you think


[17-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Mikey#7286
```Politics (from Greek: Πολιτικά, politiká, 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations between individuals, such as the distribution of resources or status. The academic study of politics is referred to as political science.```


[17-Jun-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
that's basically my definition, except I didn't look at wikipedia


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
A broad definition is dum and you're dum :v


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Mikey#7286
"making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations between individuals"


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so politics is about decision-making for society


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If society is doing something really bad


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Mikey#7286
saying hi how was your day to a friend is not politics


[17-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
do people hav a moral duty to speak up against it?


[17-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if society is eating babies on the street


[17-Jun-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
wth does this have to do with the definition lmao


[17-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it morally correct that we walk by and say nothing?


[17-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should Valve take a stance on eating babies?


[17-Jun-20 01:28 AM] wren#0114
.s/eating/aborting


[17-Jun-20 01:29 AM] wren#0114
there now it politic


[17-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Mikey#7286
why did i unmute this channel again

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[17-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Politics is the study of bitching at each other for how things should be done.


[17-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Mikey#7286
oh right, just to share an article i thought was interesting and didn't think it was appropriate for general


[17-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
politics is also what's actually being done (aka the status quo)


[17-Jun-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Politics isn't just the discourse, there's a strict material element at play within it too


[17-Jun-20 01:31 AM] wren#0114
valve should not have to take stance on eating babies, because 
1. literally everyone is saying it already
2. people who disagree are already being punish
3. valve is a game distribution company, with no relation to public policy


[17-Jun-20 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Deprivation, poverty, inequality, control of resources for political support on certain areas, that's all politics


[17-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yup it's powerful but "we at [company] so and so" memo meme


[17-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you are saying there is no need for Valve to, because it's not their business, and is already being handled?


[17-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And how should that be done? Let's bitch at each other about it


[17-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:twiright:


[17-Jun-20 01:32 AM] wren#0114
more like why are they being demanded to


[17-Jun-20 01:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, let's alleviate material discrepancies in society through coherent organized action


[17-Jun-20 01:33 AM] wren#0114
it's obvious what stance reasonable people have on the issue. Companies virtue signalling for 💰 is scummy


[17-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if you had reason to believe that eating babies was not already being handled (insufficient support to end baby-eating), and that it was Valve's business, because those that buy from them were in large numbers saying to eat babies?


[17-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Mikey#7286
yes @wren


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would you demand that Valve publicly take a stance?


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] wren#0114
I don't demand companies to take political stances


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] wren#0114
I'd prefer them not to in most cases


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that itself is a reason, and the other logic was unnecessary?


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Political *stances* are meaningless to me tbh


[17-Jun-20 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What matters is what they do concretely


[17-Jun-20 01:35 AM] wren#0114
why are you trying to feed me into statements I don't make


[17-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am asking for your actual position.


[17-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You said "I don't demand companies to take political stances"


[17-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
After providing logic with "valve should not have to take stance on eating babies, because ..."


[17-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former implies the latter is unnecessary.


[17-Jun-20 01:37 AM] wren#0114
then go with that if it makes you happy


[17-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your stance should not change to whatever appeases me.


[17-Jun-20 01:37 AM] wren#0114
that's the quote of the day


[17-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav some kind of stance on the matter, and you hav feelings on it, are these feelings based on that stance?


[17-Jun-20 01:38 AM] wren#0114
companies don't care about policies, they care about cash


[17-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't believe people should express disapproval with something without reason.


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is a company's lakk of political concern relevant to why you think Valve shouldn't be demanded to take a stance?


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] wren#0114
what are you even asking


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am asking for your argument.


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] wren#0114
I spoke clearly


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You think Valve shouldn't be demanded to take a stance.


[17-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[17-Jun-20 01:40 AM] wren#0114
read


[17-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I don't demand companies to take political stances" isn't an argument


[17-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's a statement of behavior.


[17-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is your argument?


[17-Jun-20 01:41 AM] wren#0114
that is a statement of opinion, not an argument


[17-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Mikey#7286
don't bother, he's going to keep trying to wrestle it out of you


[17-Jun-20 01:42 AM] wren#0114
ikr


[17-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're not here to make an argument, please leave.


[17-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get why it's so hard to just say why


[17-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This channel really isn't for playing hide the argument.


[17-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Mikey#7286
what argument are you trying to get?


[17-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any.


[17-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I literally am fukking asking him for what his argument is.


[17-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Mikey#7286
Valve shouldn't be demanded because there's no point


[17-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Mikey#7286
it'll only lead to bigger problems


[17-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Mikey#7286
it's not a good idea


[17-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
what bigger problem could possibly be caused by them making a statement on racism?


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Mikey#7286
why should they?


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Mikey#7286
what will they gain by making a statement?


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
you said it'll only lead to bigger problems, but what bigger problems?


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
little to nothing in the long run


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so we're talking about the consequences, then, rather than a moral reason.


[17-Jun-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chud gamers boycotting?


[17-Jun-20 01:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not like that's an actual threat anyway


[17-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
My stance is that Valve should make a statement for moral reasons, ignoring the consequences.


[17-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe specifically because there is a lot of bigotry floating around in gaming communities, that Valve should try to counteract that with official positions and enforcement.


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something small like saying they'll try to moderate online play, at least on their own titles.


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
***But my Master Race!!!*** PC


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
it's also because as I already said, the crowd whining about it will keep demanding more, and also Valve wouldn't do it out of genuinely


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does it matter that a crowd whines?


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
again


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am completely ignoring the crowd's actions.


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
"say something"


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
"ok"


[17-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Mikey#7286
"not good enough"


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
"we donated to BLM"


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe Valve has a duty.


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
"not good enough"


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
no


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think what anyone else says matters at all.


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
no corporation has a "duty"


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is Valve's duty.


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
they're a corporation


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Mikey#7286
not a person


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only duty corporations should have would be to disappear


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does that make them exempt from acting morally?


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a corporation acts immorally, it should be destroyed.


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Since it is not a person, it has no rights.


[17-Jun-20 01:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
how is it immoral to not say anything


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason not to destroy it.


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Corporations will always act imorally


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
versus saying


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
"black lives don't matter"


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's how they become corporations in the first place lol


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is immoral to host a consumerbase that is doing immoral things and not act to counteract it.


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Mikey#7286
this unironically


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations should be bound and chained.


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those that act immorally should be abolished by force.


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, corporations should not exist


[17-Jun-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
End of story


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
^


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations were invented to be companies following charters.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
For specific purposes.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a good idea on its own.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think the most political thing valve does is support linux.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is also immoral to continue to support Microsoft's monopoly.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
supporting Linux is good


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Valve did their duty on that one.


[17-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Mikey#7286
they're unironically the biggest supporter on PC


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't really care much about words


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
actions only.


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Valve can say whatever bullshit it wants.


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its duty is to **do**.


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Mikey#7286
so why should they say anything then???


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Merely to clarify what they are doing.


[17-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
There would be problems if they went around fighting bigotry among gamers without warning them about such.


[17-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Mikey#7286
but what duty do they have to do


[17-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fight racism among gaming communities.


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Mikey#7286
Nebbie


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Mikey#7286
you're never going to get rid of racism in any community


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Mikey#7286
at least not completely


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So? We must still fight it.


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't completely eradicate mold


[17-Jun-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you still remove it from your damn home.


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
:notbestpony:


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can remove it from your home, actually, but that'd require a bit of a hard effort and people don't want that rn


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like saying you shouldn't stop a crime because you aren't Superman.


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
NOBODY is Superman.


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is the reason of racist in the first place?


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But we still should try to improve society.


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Mikey#7286
i feel like you're overestimating how much toxicity is actually in the gaming community


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
We will never achieve perfection.


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people don't like any companies making any statements about anything that isn't related to their product


[17-Jun-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That, or they're too hopeless and ignorant to see how the mold will take over the entire house soon if we don't take action to remove it


[17-Jun-20 01:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There are communities that are pretty diverse. Why is that?


[17-Jun-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/634143997048389653/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa.png

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[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] wren#0114
do you really think there's any danger of actual racists coming to power in the west today


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
_looks at white house_


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] byte[]#2610
uh


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are you from Mars?


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a time when racists **weren't** in power in the west?


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] wren#0114
people lose their jobs for stuff less than "gaming" racism I've seen


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
News to me.


[17-Jun-20 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Today, perhaps not, but in the near future? It's scary how likely it is


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"A person might lose their job!" needs to stop being _the_ defining trait of right/wrong


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i can also see increasing resistance to that


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Mikey#7286
i'm gonna go back to muting this channel


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's borderline attempting to chill speech


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't say anything bad about anyone ever


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You might get them fired!


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I might lose my job because I like cartoons as a adult so yes


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] wren#0114
how are you so paranoid when the entire world is up in arms in support of blm


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The entire world?


[17-Jun-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire world isn't up in arms in support.


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
^


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
obviously


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's one of the most controversial things there is.


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Crow#5457
the world being in support of blm doesn't translate to the government actually fixing the problems that blm is protesting to begin with


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, you mean, most of the working class?


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
I haven't heard a thing locally except this channel lol


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
I definitely do not mean anything in marxist terms


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
lmao


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
mikey has a point


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I definitely do not mean anything in marxist terms
@wren  then perish tbh


[17-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
ok uwu


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:communism:


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
btw, "up in arms" means "Armed for battle; prepared for or engaged in warfare."


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
as in, people are getting their guns out to shoot people


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, they not


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
BLM is all about advertising in a sense and exposing the entire issue


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only ones getting guns out are police and racists right now.


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] wren#0114
>The entire world isn't up in arms in support.
>companies like valve should say and do something to support blm. most other companies are, and all companies have a duty to


[17-Jun-20 02:00 AM] wren#0114
pick


[17-Jun-20 02:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once again, that means nothing if they're only releasing superficial statements


[17-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former is an "is" statement


[17-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
the latter is a "should" statement.


[17-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to be saying that whatever is deemed to be desirable already is happening.


[17-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think the former statement is true, either.


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're essentially saying that if you hear enuff of my liberal views, then what I actually want I must've gotten.


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] wren#0114
it is more than a should statement, because it is being demanded by overwhelming majority pressure on social media, and is already accomplished with the exception of a few companies who aren't even political in the first place

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[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only way to actually bring forth class equality for black people is through organized strugge imo, and no ammount of corporate statements will change it


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a pure appeasement standard, and it's bullshit.


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] wren#0114
this is fruitless discussion


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] byte[]#2610
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[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] wren#0114
thank you


[17-Jun-20 02:02 AM] wren#0114
kek


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Banana


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nanner


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That is a berry


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Only companies with US presence have duty for BLM


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you have any actual stance on blakk rights, or how police treat blakk people?


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you care what happens?


[17-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
For that matter, do you hav *any idea* how infuriating it is to be told that companies shouldn't try and make the world a better place?


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] wren#0114
companies shouldn't have the burden to


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not the corporations that should


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] wren#0114
people should, and should change the laws


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
EVERYONE should hav the burden to.


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not their money that should


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Companies are not your friends.


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] wren#0114
everyone, as in, people


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's our damn society.


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every part of our society should hav this burden.


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It should be the workers in solidarity with oppressed and impoverished black people


[17-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism should be completely intolerable.


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] wren#0114
Of course I care about black people, and I care what happens politically. Weird of you to think I don't


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They are the ones who generate the wealth of these corporations, you know


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem very mad that people calling for equal rights are prominent.


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as that companies are being asked to support equal rights.


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] wren#0114
what gives you that impression


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nebbie


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe, just maybe, I don't like a hellscape of corporations that aren't expected to do anything.


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/aviation/503072-multiple-airlines-dropping-alcohol-on-flights

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Multiple airlines dropping alcohol on flights
Several major airlines are moving to end or temporarily suspend some alcoholic beverage services in response to the coronavirus outbreak.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_americanairlines_042820getty.jpg


[17-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They should be more careful


[17-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Alcohol can be hard to get out of the carpet

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[17-Jun-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please stop arguing corporations should do what's not in their political class interest


[17-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Poor people with fear of flight


[17-Jun-20 02:06 AM] wren#0114
this channel seems to turn into ad hom + strawman


[17-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think corporations should be held at gunpoint to do what's not in their political class interest.


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't seem eager to share your actual stance.


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just some stuff about corporations.


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] byte[]#2610
:typing:


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I find it inappropriate for them to even comment on it


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If black people were to be actually included into proper jobs where they were to form an actual body within the proletarian class, they'd be strengthening the labor movement, which has an ultimate tendency to advocate for the abolishment of large corporate conglomerates


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then everything's into "up in arms"


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] wren#0114
I'm not mad about the focus on the real issues that we do need to solve. I'm tired of signalling and mob mentality and polarization


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you want to happen?


[17-Jun-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is not in their interest for the proletarian class to become stronger


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] wren#0114
~~and sick of communism~~


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you think that signalling this stuff is bad, or that it's not helping?


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So they'll stay in the lane of pseudo-woke advertising


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And that's all


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I thought his stance was "corporations should not have any obligation to speak out against racism"


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] wren#0114
I think it's missing the point, and I'm waiting to see the real steps that we can take to help


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
And also


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Nebbie


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I wanna ask


[17-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay well what I was asking for was Valve to fight actual racism in gaming communities


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
What are corporations gonna do that would help fight racism


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
not to just *signal*


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
That's not rhetorical


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I actually wanna know how they can help


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations can fukk over racists, that's what.


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can ban them from their platforms.


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think them donating money makes more sense than shitty PR


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can say "you can't be a harassing fukkhead sharing your bigotry"


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They can spread the info


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PR is actually virtue signaling


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can donate to causes to fix shit.


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how will that change things for black people


[17-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Donating isn't


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That won't solve the problem of racism which is a *class* problem to begin with


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people will be less oppressed if the oppression gets the oppressors utterly fukking demolished.


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless donating for armed organizations


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It will discourage racism in the gaming community at least, Badger (if it works) (or whatever other community the corp works in)


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
They can't do everything


[17-Jun-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, but... i just really don't think that's anything substantial


[17-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It actually would not help, youth is too insensitive


[17-Jun-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The bigots will go elsewhere


[17-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody can do everything.


[17-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of people can do something.


[17-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 there's a very important thing actually, in that bigots use herd mentality to make people who aren't normally bigoted act bigoted


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Unless you are ready for trouble and give up comfort.


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Removing *organizing* of bigots reduces bigotry.


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also I think that Nebbie is saying that "if you let intolerant people be, their natural tendency is to cause more problems"
This may be part of why he is actively advocating it as a duty


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
"paradox of tolerance"


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[17-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be a duty, or else these people just cluster, organize, and move on things.


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't win the war for civil rights by sitting at home agreeing that other people matter.


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i agree wholeheartedly


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈, I don't really get how excluding corporations from trying to change society, even if it's only a token gesture to a cause that isn't actually in their best interests, helps anything


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just don't think your analysis has enough class in it, tho


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's my only gripe


[17-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think we need to fukk over the police before we start to rally blakks around socialism.


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise the police will just beat them all down


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you hav poor blakks actually in power, *then* they can start shooting the things that enslaved them in the head.


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and provide stable housing and job projects for PoC. Class struggle can follow from there quite well


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
An expect power abuse.


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
truly a :glowing_eyes: take


[17-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, some reform requires other reforms first.


[17-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But the first of all, people must be reformed.


[17-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
isn't that the whole "the oppressed want to be the oppressors" thing?


[17-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[17-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be blakks shooting whites.


[17-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is instead blakks ripping capitalism a few new assholes.


[17-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sound about fucking right.


[17-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
A group was oppressed,  they won. Group reached power and started abusing and taking all of it, turning on their oppressors and fucking over everyone , including members of the group. It is really happened. Even founders of movement were disappointed.


[17-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note in US civil rights history is that generally the way it works is that over time, courts shift interpretation


[17-Jun-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not intrinsic to human society tho


[17-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
this shifting allows the broad implications of what's written to bubble up to the surface


[17-Jun-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's a byproduct of capitalist tendencies of domination


[17-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly, something means equal treatment, and you can't go bakk from that.


[17-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It said equal treatment to begin with, but society held down parts of it.


[17-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th amendment always said to not discriminate on race, but for a long time, SCOTUS just ignored that.


[17-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But how do you go bakk from the 1956 ruling on segregation?


[17-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's airtight. You'd hav to not only reconstruct judge ideas from the year before, but to empower them further to defeat it.


[17-Jun-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similar has happened with the gay rights ruling.


[17-Jun-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you go bakk?


[17-Jun-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch's ruling can only even be challenged at all with Alito's absolute mess.


[17-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/us/politics/john-bolton-book-publication.html

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Trump Administration Sues to Try to Delay Publication of Bolton’s B...
The request comes a week before the highly anticipated memoir was set to be published.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/17/us/politics/16dc-bolton-print/16dc-bolton-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, these sorts of things in the US structure *don't* lead to a flipping of the hierarchy.


[17-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
They barely even truly change it when they happen.


[17-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a TON of resistance to actually treating people equally.


[17-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that resistance is often organized.


[17-Jun-20 02:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/Mz4Sj_10rC4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz4Sj_10rC4
The AGENDA
Yeah I know I'm going to catch hell for this one, but if you find this video too offensive, I'm sure you'll be more than happy to tell me you're unsubbing, or that you "used to respect me" or whatever, and then you can run off to the echo chamber. Have fun. If you simply disag...
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[17-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Re: OAG not liking furries, apparently wrong

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[17-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's not hyper horny but basically goes "Yeah some people might like it"


[17-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't say he didn't like furries, think you might've said that one.


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, I meant that I was wrong about it.


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see.


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, if I had noticed, I would've told you why.


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Tfw subreddit mods banning things is news


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
"Billy" is OAG


[17-Jun-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
it's his personal blog


[17-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
> gender-swampped version


[17-Jun-20 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"gender swapped version of ratchet" When was that confirmed?


[17-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a psycho conservative masquerading as an online journalist.


[17-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, here's why you were wrong, Its


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, OAG isn't about his particular sex interests or whatever shown


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
he just wants sex interests shown


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it sounds like that subreddit is just begging to be bombarded with that art


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also tfw they banned him instead of just deleting the post


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wants everyone to go OOOH TITS


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Reddit has banned people for SFW anime swimsuits before.


[17-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They became hyper aggressive after they decided to go after loli.


[17-Jun-20 02:42 AM] jlun2#8758
safe featureless crotches only


[17-Jun-20 02:42 AM] jlun2#8758
flat chested too


[17-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Reddit isn't involved, this is a subreddit with independent mods


[17-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They're shitty because of that, don't get me wrong


[17-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh wow


[17-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Just not right in this instance


[17-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, so OAG wants everything porn because it means then people can't question.


[17-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furry porn is critical to this.


[17-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without it, you could get thru social criticisms using talking animals.


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Talking Tom tells the children the evils of racism etc.


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought conservatives hate porn


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The conservative utopia is that everything's a videogame full of sex and like, fart jokes


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives use porn as a scapegoat for moral evils.


[17-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want it around.


[17-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want the masses to be blind to what's going on, just looking at porn all day, then when the masses do bad shit, they go "well they all watch porn, so that's why"


[17-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/HotepTucker/status/1272974439542665216
https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/status/1272735796949213184

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If this isn’t self defense bill of rights is more useful as toilet paper https://t.co/MHk2IvmaYu
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We just obtained video of the shooting. https://t.co/yjB6NHdKe2
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[17-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Synfag#9241
let me guess


[17-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Synfag#9241
this is not self-defense


[17-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Crow#5457
I like the people claiming that the one dude was saying "we're gonna fucking kill you" when he was actually saying "he's gonna fucking kill you"


[17-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Crow#5457
because he saw the dude had a gun


[17-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Synfag#9241
big doubt


[17-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_WhyzGuy/status/1272793582571794438

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𝕨ℍ𝕪ℤ𝕘𝕌𝕪 (@_WhyzGuy)
https://twitter.com/_WhyzGuy/status/1272793582571794438
@FrachitChad @greg_doucette @meganrabundis https://t.co/Y7CgHfZJYW
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[17-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
also, he threw a woman down before people started attacking him


[17-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he assaulted a woman, then waited for people to attakk him, and shot at them with a rapid fire weapon?


[17-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
so yeah, I'm not seeing how this was justified self-defense


[17-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's murder.


[17-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's only self-defense if you didn't initate the confrontation.


[17-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The scene in Captain Marvel where a guy puts his hand on his map and she beats him up? That can be self-defense.


[17-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But him beating her up wouldn't be, he initiated.


[17-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Synfag#9241
he should have just let one of the protesters bash him in the head with that skateboard


[17-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Synfag#9241
and die


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He should've not started a fight.


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
he shouldn't have thrown someone to the ground


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Synfag#9241
everybody is wishing death upon him anyway


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
talk shit... get hit?


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
More like harass women, get beat.


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gonna guess the guy's an incel.


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, people don't like it when their women are harrassed


[17-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Synfag#9241
gonna guess the guy is white


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can just watch the video to figure that one out.


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Synfag#9241
and straight


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does that matter?


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Synfag#9241
and male


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am talking about his *behavior*


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Synfag#9241
it always matters


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
he assaulted a woman out of nowhere.


[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Synfag#9241
and right wing

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[17-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it matter to you?


[17-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Synfag#9241
it matters because it will determine how long this will stay in mainstream before it gets buried


[17-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
A guy assaulted a woman to start a confrontation and murder someone.


[17-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the video seems to show.


[17-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
But how is that relevant here? What are you arguing?


[17-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_WhyzGuy/status/1272994224053592071

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https://twitter.com/_WhyzGuy/status/1272994224053592071
@omgitstrey1 @mfpdx @S_dot_chan @FrachitChad @greg_doucette @meganrabundis pfft ..

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[17-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
he was going around and pushing people around earlier too


[17-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So maybe not specifically targeting women.


[17-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone he could so he could get a reason for a kill.


[17-Jun-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/06/mentally-ill-man-spent-nearly-5-months-in-jail-before-body-cam-video-revealed-garfield-heights-officers-beat-tased-and-mocked-him.html

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Man with mental illness spent nearly 5 months in jail before body c...
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[17-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/caseyworks/status/1273020170328408065

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Just got tested for COVID-19 downtown and swung by #CHOP #CHAZ to check out the campers.

At least 2 dozen tents, a few green houses, and looks like chickens soon.
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[17-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"potatoes"
No, that's gonna be one (1) potato at best


[17-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
1 potooooooo


[17-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
pot7os


[17-Jun-20 03:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Spud


[17-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I think they're trying to vertically farm them theres' a way to keep adding soil on top of potatoes to make more


[17-Jun-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
@IAmADeliciousPotato


[17-Jun-20 03:45 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
o


[17-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/mike-pence-coronavirus-reopen-campaign/index.html

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Pence tries to declare coronavirus over as Trump pushes reopening a...
Vice President Mike Pence, the leader of the administration's coronavirus task force, is publicly painting a rosy picture of the pandemic through his words and actions amid President Donald Trump's push to reopen the country and resume campaigning.
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[17-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
you heard it here


[17-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
coronavirus is no more


[17-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Don’t you mean, the data has been edited to lessen the numbers.


[17-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I doubt it was edited. The statistics were probably manipulated in a way that makes it look better than it actually is


[17-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Statistics are funny like that


[17-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Or more likely they just don't care and aren't watching the data at all


[17-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://nypost.com/2020/06/16/the-dollar-is-going-to-fall-very-very-sharply-warns-prominent-yale-economist/

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‘The dollar is going to fall very, very sharply,’ warns prominent Y...
Stephen Roach, Yale University senior fellow and former Morgan Stanley Asia chairman, has a warning for US dollar bulls. The prominent economist says that the era of the US buck may be coming to an…
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[17-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
where does a surname like "Roach" originate from


[17-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
From under my fridge at night.


[17-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
From under my bed when I was a kid, along with my pipes


[17-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I see me and Rap has similar experiences


[17-Jun-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and even similar pp length


[17-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Now that’s false


[17-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah. I'm way bigger

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[17-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Trust me


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I seen it 👀


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm pretty sure everyone on this server has


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Even the lurkers


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
*especially* the lurkers


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
kek


[17-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That was a good one


[17-Jun-20 04:11 AM] jlun2#8758
:squintyjack:


[17-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I had to delete it to avoid losing subscriber


[17-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That was pretty tame though


[17-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
But then again


[17-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m gonna stay clean of warnings


[17-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>losing subscriber
What like youtube?


[17-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If you were a werewolf would you be a lycan subscribe

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[17-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I saw a animation that was named that


[17-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's probably an obvious pun but it hurts so good and I like that sort of thing


[17-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Masochism


[17-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Raptorshy you never had a cola can for the reference though


[17-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So who knows the real size


[17-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiright:


[17-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The real size is the friends we made along the way


[17-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
The real caw is the caws we cawed along the way.

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[17-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[17-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They really need to do an april fools soda can toy


[17-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ft.com/content/6d5fe3f5-9b88-44de-a264-ab18076ff5d4

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Subscribe to read | Financial Times
News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publication


[17-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
> US banks paid nearly twice as much in dividends as they earned
> 
> FDIC says it is monitoring payouts after loan loss provisions ballooned in first quarter


[17-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
> The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said it is monitoring US banks’ dividend policies after they declared payouts totalling almost twice their earnings in the first quarter, eroding capital cushions as the coronavirus crisis took hold.
> 
> The country’s 5,100 lenders and savings institutions declared dividends of $32.7bn for a quarter when they made profits of $18.5bn — 70 per cent less than the same period the year before, the FDIC said.
> 
> “We’re certainly looking at the banks’ payments of dividends and monitoring what’s going on there,” FDIC chair Jelena McWilliams told reporters, adding that the FDIC had “supervisory tools” which it could deploy to make sure banks “are not risking their balance sheets or risking safety and soundness” with excessive payouts.
> 
> Provisions for loan losses wiped almost $52.7bn from the industry’s profits in the first quarter, the FDIC said, versus $13.9bn a year earlier. An 8 per cent increase in loan balances, the biggest year-on-year jump since 2008, put further pressure on banks’ capital ratios since the ratios are capital as a percentage of total assets.


[17-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get sites that paywall their preview


[17-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was looking more into the right wing opinions on porn and found this


[17-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://americanmind.org/features/obscenity-blindness/the-marketplace-of-brain-worms/

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Josh Hammer
https://americanmind.org/features/obscenity-blindness/the-marketplace-of-brain-worms/
The Marketplace of Brain Worms
Talk of the free market is laughable when it comes to porn.
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[17-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Our problem is therefore a misplaced elevation of the notion of the “marketplace of ideas” to an undeservedly lofty pedestal—if not to the position of an outright societal panacea. In so doing, especially in the context of utterly noxious content such as pornography, we have sapped ourselves of the ability to advance forthright moral argumentation about the inherent value of ideas and content. Philosophical liberals of the both the left- and right-leaning variety have vitiated the “marketplace of ideas” and neutered it into a marketplace of brain worms.`


[17-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
` At the risk of stating the obvious, there is nothing “speech”-like about pornography—an industry inextricably linked to human trafficking, lacking any plausible “redeeming” value whatsoever and instead explicitly appealing to the prurient interest. The very act of relying upon the pluralistic “marketplace of ideas” to counter that “speech” therefore amounts to complicity in a fundamental lie: That pornography itself and religious/ethical/cultural/social criticism of pornography are equally deserving of a place in the public discourse.`


[17-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tiddies bad, got it


[17-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than CP, "obscenity" law is so entirely fucked that it's crazy


[17-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I bet this person is fun at parties


[17-Jun-20 04:58 AM] AaronMk#4499
DeMaistre was right, liberal capitalism would lead to the comodification of religion and the lapsing of ethical virtue. Will someone think of the weekly lapsing Christian?


[17-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that a strict Christian society still produces people like de Sade


[17-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-E_i8Q5G0

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The Dallas Morning News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-E_i8Q5G0
Dallas Police body cameras show moment Tony Timpa stopped breathing
The Dallas Morning News obtained body camera footage that was tied up in a legal battle for three years. The videos show Dallas Police responding after Tony Timpa called 911 and told dispatchers he was off his medication and had used cocaine. 

See how officers responded.

Sub...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_c-E_i8Q5G0/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
old, but police basically joked about killing this guy


[17-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
took 3 years for the bodycam footage to be released


[17-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/tony-timpa-dallas-police-body-cam.html

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By Karen Zraick
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/us/tony-timpa-dallas-police-body-cam.html
Dallas Officers Pinned Tony Timpa and Joked During Fatal Encounter,...
“You’re going to kill me,” Mr. Timpa shouted repeatedly in newly released body-camera video. An autopsy classified his 2016 death as a homicide.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/08/01/multimedia/01xp-dallas/01xp-dallas-facebookJumbo.jpg


[17-Jun-20 05:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> brain worms
:sombralick:
||i want to be infected with them & become e-"girl" now||


[17-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the "alt right fights against porn because it corrupts men and frees women" thing really that common or is it more of a meme


[17-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because there sure are a lot of anime avatars out there


[17-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Shapiro is def. into feet


[17-Jun-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[17-Jun-20 05:14 AM] illumnious#7938
stonks

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[17-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon It's a small minority, pro-sex/sex work is pretty common among all groups


[17-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Coomer memes and people like PJW aside


[17-Jun-20 05:44 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273095002563006472?s=19

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273095002563006472?s=19
96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party. Thank you!
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[17-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, the number of people that identify as republican drops


[17-Jun-20 05:53 AM] jlun2#8758
> pro-sex/sex work is pretty common among all groups
wait seriously?


[17-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
America has very distorted legal politics.


[17-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's political suicide to talk about prostition being legal, because Republicans are super anti sex work with all the devout christian fukkwits, and Democrats hav a ton of "don't rokk the boat" conservatives within.


[17-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The boat is that it's illegal.


[17-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even tho overall people don't care about it *specifically*, it's hard to advance the idea in either party.


[17-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and Trump would both be very angry at you and condemn you together.


[17-Jun-20 06:12 AM] jlun2#8758
:sad: thot dreams becoming dimmer

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[17-Jun-20 06:19 AM] RYDE#8862
Are America completely distorted to sex as well?


[17-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
yes


[17-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
mega prudes


[17-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro america is fucked up


[17-Jun-20 06:21 AM] RYDE#8862
More fucked up?


[17-Jun-20 06:24 AM] RYDE#8862
My own mother said that porn will warp your mind. If so, then why my mind is already warped due to something that we have distorted view of sex?


[17-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine trying to control what your children can look at and think about, while they sit in a room alone, not bother anyone, just touch their own body.
I'd feel like a freak, intruding in that part of anyone's life.
Who knows what bullshit excuse parents give themselves when they do this.


[17-Jun-20 11:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/Be4gEay

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Drawbridges up in Chicago
https://i.imgur.com/PB7JXBUh.jpg


[17-Jun-20 11:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/HostileArchitecture/comments/gv6kmf/the_chicago_fortress_a_thread_on_rdataisbeautiful/

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755 votes and 81 comments so far on Reddit
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[17-Jun-20 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/C1my6Tb

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gotta agree with Mr Owens here
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[17-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
More protest related shooting.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBgbks5lm-o/?igshid=1lnz8fkdipprp
The guy who was shot is white though. Wonder if it will make to the news.
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Login • Instagram
Welcome back to Instagram. Sign in to check out what your friends, family & interests have been capturing & sharing around the world.

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[17-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Again, we wouldn't have this footage if they didn't film their own assault wielding knives.


[17-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:derpchrys:


[17-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It was a protest near the statue of some Spanish explorer from what I understood.


[17-Jun-20 12:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-considers-suing-niece-mary-tell-all-book-nda-report-2020-6

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Trump is reportedly looking into suing his niece to stop her from p...
Mary Trump's book, which describes her uncle as "the world's most dangerous man" and their "toxic family," is due to publish July 28, 2020.
https://i.insider.com/5ee9d29bf34d0569844946f3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
why he is always suing people he disagrees with?


[17-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
is this how it works in States?


[17-Jun-20 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well both books contain amazingly incriminating information about him, soooo


[17-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
SLAPP suits, yes.


[17-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you hav the money and there's no anti-SLAPP law in your state, you can basically force people from saying something.


[17-Jun-20 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has basically used lawsuit debt to drown most of his legal opponents all his life


[17-Jun-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's not about winning the suit, it's about making sure they go broke and toothless before they become a problem


[17-Jun-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503042-trump-uses-aids-vaccine-as-proof-scientists-can-develop-covid-19

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Trump uses 'AIDS vaccine' as proof scientists can develop COVID-19 ...
President Trump touted the development of an “AIDS vaccine” on Tuesday as he predicted that scientists will create a vaccine for the coronavirus by the end of the year.
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[17-Jun-20 01:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://i.imgur.com/vC6VySG.mp4 sound

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[17-Jun-20 01:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1273084455184457728

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Today on The Topical: GOP Claims Systemic Racism A 400-Year-Old Democrat Plot To Make Trump Lose Election 

Full episode: https://t.co/L3JAN4Ef0D
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[17-Jun-20 01:23 PM] byte[]#2610
too real


[17-Jun-20 01:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe he paints himself in that tan to look less white


[17-Jun-20 01:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain:


[17-Jun-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They can't call me white if i look like the descendant of a florida orange tree!"


[17-Jun-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.dw.com/en/berlin-authorities-placed-children-with-pedophiles-for-30-years/a-53814208

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Berlin authorities placed children with pedophiles for 30 years | D...
The 'Kentler Project' in West Berlin routinely placed homeless children with pedophile men, assuming they'd make ideal foster parents. A study has found the practice went on for decades.
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[17-Jun-20 01:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What was the outcome?


[17-Jun-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Several years ago two of the victims came forward and told their story, since then the researchers at Hildesheim University have plowed through files and conducted interviews.
> 
> What they found was a "network across educational institutions," the state youth welfare office and the Berlin Senate, in which pedophilia was "accepted, supported, defended."
> 
> Kentler himself was in regular contact with the children and their foster fathers. He was never prosecuted: By the time his victims came forward, the statute of limitations for his actions had expired. This has also thus far prevented the victims from getting any compensation.
> 
> The researchers found that several of the foster fathers were high-profile academics. They speak of a network that included high-ranking members of the Max Planck Institute, Berlin's Free University, and the notorious Odenwald School in Hesse, West Germany, which was at the center of a major pedophilia scandal several years ago. It has since been closed down.


[17-Jun-20 01:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I dunno how it works tbh, children do grow up fast.


[17-Jun-20 01:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What they do with them after they are no longer children?


[17-Jun-20 01:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[17-Jun-20 01:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why high ranks are always such assholes?


[17-Jun-20 01:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
(Besides using it to get there in the first place)


[17-Jun-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when children are no longer children, they get kicked out or gradually reared of the foster system and are encouraged or forced to live on their own


[17-Jun-20 01:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://family.findlaw.com/foster-care/aging-out-of-foster-care.html

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Aging Out of Foster Care - FindLaw
Children usually age-out of foster care at age 18, or when they graduate from high school, whichever happens first. Learn about the challenges of aging out of foster care and more at FindLaw's Foster Care section.
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[17-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
nice exploit


[17-Jun-20 02:31 PM] PwnyPony#6185

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[17-Jun-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> For context, this woman called the cops on a black man for stenciling BLM on his own property. She claimed she knew the owners of that house and that he was vandalizing. She was immediately canceled and so was her husband.


[17-Jun-20 02:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Racist Karen


[17-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
<https://imgur.com/gallery/Cql5Ljg>


[17-Jun-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NumbThePain/status/1269669820062203912

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[17-Jun-20 03:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What is the S word?


[17-Jun-20 03:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[17-Jun-20 03:04 PM] Crow#5457
when is "S word" mentioned?


[17-Jun-20 03:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah, that is a F word


[17-Jun-20 03:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
0:30


[17-Jun-20 03:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I find the whole letter-word thingy pretty dumb as it adds so much confusion.


[17-Jun-20 03:06 PM] Crow#5457
he didn't even say anything having to do with fucking lol


[17-Jun-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
she's making shit up


[17-Jun-20 03:07 PM] RYDE#8862
@Jack112 I don't jerk off 12 time's a day. I actually know when to take a break.


[17-Jun-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
also, important to note that she's telling a native american to go back to "her country"

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[17-Jun-20 03:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
ok


[17-Jun-20 03:08 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I think I also heard her say go back to mexico?


[17-Jun-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that she did


[17-Jun-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she also forgot karen rule #1: don't assault non retail employees


[17-Jun-20 03:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
>non-retail
:depressed:


[17-Jun-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the regular people can hit back


[17-Jun-20 03:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Retail workers are fair game. the customer is always right 🤜 🛒


[17-Jun-20 03:15 PM] Raptorshy#6268
What people don't realize it's the customer is almost never right, but you gotta make them think they are


[17-Jun-20 03:15 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Or convince them that your idea is their idea


[17-Jun-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
customers also think cart pushers can break the laws of physics


[17-Jun-20 03:15 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I've done that to customers before


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
I just stare dumb customers dead in the eye with a blank tired expression.


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
"Excuse me sir but is this sushi cooked?"


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
"..."

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[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] Raptorshy#6268
To be fair, some is


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sure


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Sushi isn't always sashimi


[17-Jun-20 03:16 PM] Crow#5457
sue shee


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
hmm, if I ever have a daughter, I'm naming her susan


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
so I can make that pun


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
sue she


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Sushi isn't always sashimi
@Raptorshy 
I know, but I also don't want to help them and let them figure it out.


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Crow#5457
:derpchrys:


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah that's fair


[17-Jun-20 03:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
They usually do anyways


[17-Jun-20 03:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
I also got like eighteen different excuses or reasons to not help people most of the time. Like, "Ma'am, this isn't my department. I can only guess. Besides: I need to get back to mine. I have chickens in the oven coming out in maybe two minutes. I have to go."


[17-Jun-20 03:18 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I leave.


[17-Jun-20 03:18 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And it's actually 10 minutes, but you just wanted to shitpost on here


[17-Jun-20 03:18 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Good times


[17-Jun-20 03:18 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I kid


[17-Jun-20 03:19 PM] AaronMk#4499
My job is legit all about a tight-ish schedule because I have to do things at specefic times as a consequence of the flow of the job more than anything. So if I dwell on something unrelated for too long I throw off my day.


[17-Jun-20 03:20 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Food service is some of the worst jobs I've had, though walmart specifically was the worst. See at every other retail place that isn't a dollar store or Walmart, customers are there because their time is worth more than their money. At Walmart, their money is worth more than their time.


[17-Jun-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're unionized where I'm at so I feel a bit more protected.


[17-Jun-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
Though not at my second job, and that's where I have to just sorta let my boss harass me.


[17-Jun-20 03:21 PM] AaronMk#4499
And I have to take sneaky little revenge pot shots


[17-Jun-20 03:22 PM] Raptorshy#6268
So you get so much dumb, broken, and trashy people coming in to walmart. Added with the employees (including managers) also being those people makes every day an adventure in stupidity.


[17-Jun-20 03:22 PM] AaronMk#4499
WalMart, where every dollar you make is ten also stolen from you somewhere, somehow


[17-Jun-20 03:22 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Mmhmm


[17-Jun-20 03:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
I heard someone explain somewhere they if regular employees were allowed to do as much theft as everyone above them gets away with, ya'll could walk out with a free new TV every week


[17-Jun-20 03:23 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I hate going there just because I'm there for 2 hours grocery shopping, and I'm exhausted and frustrated when I leave.


[17-Jun-20 03:23 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Something I could do at any other store in like we 20 minutes


[17-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's extra scummy too because you know what that theft money comes out of?


[17-Jun-20 03:24 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Employee bonuses


[17-Jun-20 03:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yup


[17-Jun-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Literally drag the Waltons out into the townsquare and beat them to death Mao style. That's their comeuppance.


[17-Jun-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
But we all know that'll just make a lot of offense


[17-Jun-20 03:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
Because they spend a lot of money to convince everyone they are saints.


[17-Jun-20 03:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Are they? Because I don't think it's working


[17-Jun-20 03:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I think they just have way too big of a company to figure out how to manage it, so things stagnate and get lost in translation


[17-Jun-20 03:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And they're still making money so they don't feel like anything is wrong


[17-Jun-20 03:28 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Like stocks are up year after year


[17-Jun-20 03:29 PM] AaronMk#4499
I don't think they care because they're also picking someone's pocket. Or as long as investors are willing to keep giving them money for shares they'll look the other way, that's all that matters at the end of the day; share prices.

I've also seen books advertised on like, the local library's website about the Waltons and how they are a great American success story and stuff. So they have their own propaganda and PR body to try and iron over things with some wallpaper. Just well enough to make people stop thinking about it, like Jeff Bezos with Amazon.


[17-Jun-20 03:30 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Amazon at least doesn't suck at customer service too


[17-Jun-20 03:30 PM] AaronMk#4499
Also the thing I'm convinced about any company is that as soon as its management figures out how to make money from nothing they sure as hell will just go do that, damn everyone else.


[17-Jun-20 03:31 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm sure they quickly learn that anything they do will break the machine and cause lost profits


[17-Jun-20 03:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
At the end of the day the end point of the market is everyone selling each other ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes, and various MLM plans. All the money with none of the products and services to actually offer.


[17-Jun-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the walmart break rooms, they have propaganda posters about the great and noble sam walton


[17-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, that's to be expected though


[17-Jun-20 03:32 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I forgot about that


[17-Jun-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
There's a town in Michigan called Frankenmuth whose whole thing is eternal Christmas and expy Bavaria. In Frankenmuth there's a store called Bronner's. Bronner's thing is to double down on eternal Christmas and they do Christmas all year, they don't even lean into the German like the rest of town in the off-seasons. They sell Christmas shit all year round. And all throughout Bronner's is propaganda material for its founder which I shit you not: is like walking into the white version of North Korea.


[17-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Weird


[17-Jun-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that sounds creepy


[17-Jun-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like they have large portraits of old man Bronner hanging over a door, the supporting columns are old newspaper clippings or photocopies of newspaper clippings talking his noble deeds, others expose his Christian values and mission


[17-Jun-20 03:36 PM] AaronMk#4499
And never mind the whole store is nothing but Christmas decorations year round, I drove past it last February when I had the dumb idea to go to Frankenmuth (which I was quickly reminded is an expensive as fuck town, it's all about the tourism bucks; it's a curse) and there were still cars outside the Bronner's store with people walking in and out. And it's not an insubstantial store, it's the size of a Walmart


[17-Jun-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that town and store sound cursed as fuck


[17-Jun-20 03:41 PM] AaronMk#4499
Frankenmuth itself isn't so bad. It's very pretty. But it's expensive, it's not somewhere for a casual visit. Like I went into one of the two big restaurants for lunch and opened the menu to find everything is close to twenty dollars. I realized this was a mistake and I stood up and left.


[17-Jun-20 03:42 PM] AaronMk#4499
The whole place is somewhere to go if you are in some high-paying middle class professional gig so you can throw twenty dollars out on a casual meal, or if you're there for a special event like someone's birthday.


[17-Jun-20 03:43 PM] AaronMk#4499
But I'd rather go to somewhere like Ann Arbor which is bigger, as aesthetically pleasing, and has slightly cheaper good meals (by which I mean: 15$ vs 20$+)


[17-Jun-20 03:44 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's a pain in the ass to park in Ann Arbor though because it is a prime example of a town built and established long before widespread cars and some great catastrophy or urban renewal program never caught up to make it unwalkable to accommodate for cars. So it's a pain in the ass to get into and park, but once you're there is pretty chill to walk about at.


[17-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I've only really been in UP


[17-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And they talk funny up there


[17-Jun-20 03:46 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Good pasties though


[17-Jun-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jun-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-coronavirus-disinfection-tunnel-video-2020-6

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Video shows Putin's special disinfection tunnel that people have to...
Putin is working from home at his palace in Novo-Ogaryovo, to the west of Moscow, where all new arrivals must be sprayed with disinfectant.
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[17-Jun-20 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
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This is what we mean when when we say “Defund the Police.”
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[17-Jun-20 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jun-20 04:00 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr "defunding" the police is why we have EMTs today


[17-Jun-20 04:01 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I wish I could actually read that text


[17-Jun-20 04:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[17-Jun-20 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
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Could we fix THIS, at least?
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[17-Jun-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
@Raptorshy https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EagHAMxUwAA7PzD.png:orig

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[17-Jun-20 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
from the end of this twitter thread <https://twitter.com/JamieFord/status/1272273637173637120>


[17-Jun-20 04:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Thanks


[17-Jun-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/15/877748845/federal-executions-set-to-resume-after-nearly-two-decade-hiatus

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Federal Executions Set To Resume After Nearly 2-Decade Hiatus
Only three federal executions have taken place since 1988. Four prisoners are scheduled to be executed over the next two months.
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[17-Jun-20 04:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Welp


[17-Jun-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
> Last July, the Trump administration announced that the review was complete, and executions could resume. After a series of legal challenges that delayed the executions, a federal appeals court gave Barr the go-ahead in April.


[17-Jun-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
the review was cancelled*


[17-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/h6ZnzPm

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Y I K E S
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[17-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[17-Jun-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
this cop used license look-up to figure out who a woman in a car he was "racing" while driving to work was, and then find her phone number and text her

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[17-Jun-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jun-20 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
the cop is also the police chief's son, and a repeat offender

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[17-Jun-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/4TheCulture____/status/1272732761435095041

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The FEAR our kids are living in😪😓💔 https://t.co/DhwQk56RKx
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[17-Jun-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/16/878924556/as-texas-coronavirus-cases-reach-new-high-gov-abbott-plays-down-the-numbers

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Texas Governor Says 'No Reason Today To Be Alarmed' As Coronavirus ...
Gov. Greg Abbott said Texas hospitals have "abundant" capacity. Mayors from the state's largest cities asked Abbott for the authority to require face masks amid the spike in COVID-19 cases.
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[17-Jun-20 04:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[17-Jun-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
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[17-Jun-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/giOvWkv 2 parts

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I don’t remember this episode of Parks and Rec
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[17-Jun-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Ew


[17-Jun-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion while being in range of the shrapnel


[17-Jun-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
This is fucking deadly


[17-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they probably saw all sorts of clowns already in that hall


[17-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
that's why


[17-Jun-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also slightly disappointed she didnt start dancing


[17-Jun-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
:Rumpclown:


[17-Jun-20 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273272007266914304?s=19

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Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 & get the APP (@TrumpWarRoom)
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273272007266914304?s=19
⚠️14 YEARS AGO TODAY: Joe Biden said “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts 𝘂𝗻𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝘀𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗜𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗻𝘁. I’m not joking!”

Another thing that's not a joke? Biden's long history of saying racist things. https://t.co/VQDFOol4BU
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[17-Jun-20 05:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the joke there


[17-Jun-20 05:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't get it


[17-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The joke is *he's* the presidential candidate going against Trump


[17-Jun-20 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, i mean


[17-Jun-20 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not being able to go to a 711 or dunkin donuts without an indian accent


[17-Jun-20 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the punchline


[17-Jun-20 05:52 PM] illumnious#7938
:WAT: :WAT:


[17-Jun-20 05:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Okay wat????? https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273279676744642562?s=19

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https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273279676744642562?s=19
While Democrats call for defunding the police, President Trump wants to INCREASE funding so our police departments can: 

✅Invest in new, non-lethal weapons
✅Develop a database to track excessive use of force
✅Assign mental health experts to work alongside police https://t.co...
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[17-Jun-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah but what about them job opportunities, education funding and de-gentrification programs


[17-Jun-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What about those, Don


[17-Jun-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Laughs in French https://twitter.com/LewisC76312375/status/1273280812398661633?s=19

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@TrumpWarRoom Wow True Leadership, then people wonder why the Dems and Mainstream media are so terrified of this one man! It's because he is the Man!! 💪🇺🇸
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[17-Jun-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
True leadership??????


[17-Jun-20 05:56 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEEEEEEEZ


[17-Jun-20 05:56 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[17-Jun-20 05:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, all he does is boast and shunt responsibility and blame


[17-Jun-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah he's not gonna do anything


[17-Jun-20 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His sycophants never see him admit he's wrong so clearly he's never wrong


[17-Jun-20 05:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And since he spends most of his time just insulting anyone not licking the soles of his shoes, that means he's tough, clearly


[17-Jun-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-section-230-protections-facebook-twitter-trump-report-2020-6

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The Justice Department is reportedly planning to weaken protections...
Trump asked the FCC to consider revoking Section 230 protections from Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube last month, claiming they're biased against him.
https://i.insider.com/5eea169a5af6cc4aa035afc3?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Jun-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
President tough guy's ego sure does bruise easily


[17-Jun-20 06:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's astounding he doesn't realize or won't admit that these companies are biased _for_ him, or at least for the "engagement" he brings, else he's have already been banned a hundred times over were he treated fairly like a normal user


[17-Jun-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure I saw several tweets that twitter would have been perfectly justified in kicking him off for in 2011


[17-Jun-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/defunded-police-department-forced-to-sell-off-nuclear-submarine

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Defunded Police Department Forced to Sell Off Nuclear Submarine
The Kalispell Police Department was forced to sell its Seawolf-class nuclear attack submarine amidst nationwide protests to defund law enforcement.
https://thehardtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/shutterstock_1081411-copy.jpg


[17-Jun-20 06:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
satire


[17-Jun-20 06:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How much for the boat?


[17-Jun-20 06:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But I like satirical take


[17-Jun-20 06:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am sure if it was a diesel one, people would be more likely to believe it is true.


[17-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Who doesn't own a nuclear submarine


[17-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
they're a dime a dozen and cheap as hell


[17-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/6h2jpaJ.jpeg

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[17-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-starbucks-hours-20180730-story.html

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Column: California Supreme Court has a radical idea: Employees shou...
“Take care of the pennies, and the dollars will take care of themselves” is a cherished old adage sometimes attributed (incorrectly) to that avatar of thrift, Ben Franklin.
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[17-Jun-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
from 2018, but still


[17-Jun-20 07:00 PM] green_byte#1188
I think 2020 has broken my brain.


[17-Jun-20 07:01 PM] green_byte#1188
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/502987-dominos-dismisses-criticism-for-2012-tweet-to-white-house-press

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Domino's dismisses criticism for 2012 tweet to White House press se...
Domino’s Pizza dismissed criticism for a 2012 tweet to now-White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, saying on Tuesday that it’s “unfortunate” that it “would be viewed as political.”
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dominos_030719getty.jpg


[17-Jun-20 07:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2020 has broken my brain for sure


[17-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Domino's has the best pasta


[17-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
if someone dares to try and touch it and i'm going to personally find them and throw hot pasta at them


[17-Jun-20 07:03 PM] green_byte#1188
What's next


[17-Jun-20 07:03 PM] green_byte#1188
Poop becoming political?


[17-Jun-20 07:03 PM] green_byte#1188
...


[17-Jun-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve never tried their pasta


[17-Jun-20 07:04 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Try the chicken alfredo


[17-Jun-20 07:04 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
it's fucking good


[17-Jun-20 07:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jun-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/502376-senate-passes-lands-conservation-bill

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Senate passes major lands conservation bill
The Senate passed a major public lands bill on Wednesday, voting to set aside hundreds of millions of dollars each year for conservation efforts.
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[17-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
> Anti-Trump activists and former Republican strategist Rick Wilson, a member of The Lincoln Project, resurfaced Domino’s 2012 reply to McEnany on Monday.


[17-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
notice how it's a conservative trying to cancel domino's over that tweet


[17-Jun-20 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
It's Rick Wilson


[17-Jun-20 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Domino's is better than NY style"


[17-Jun-20 07:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being such a mindless drone for your political tribe that you don't enjoy good things because the other tribe does


[17-Jun-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey, liberals _hate_ eating literal garbage.


[17-Jun-20 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
sorry for being objectively wrong but I dislike NY style tbh


[17-Jun-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
what's "NY style"?


[17-Jun-20 07:48 PM] Honahue#0656
thin crackery crust


[17-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I don't like that


[17-Jun-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
I like thiccer crust


[17-Jun-20 07:53 PM] Honahue#0656
I had NY coal fired pizza and it was pretty good, but again it's pizza which is good but it's never going to be like a religious experience when eating


[17-Jun-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought NY style was the thin floppy crust


[17-Jun-20 08:30 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/16/free-yulia-tsvetkova/

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Free Yulia Tsvetkova!
SPREAD THE WORD. MAKE POSTS, SHARE, PUBLICIZE Yulia’s case. Yulia and her mother believe that publicity about their case will help them. Please share this information far and wide, especially with …
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[17-Jun-20 09:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/blue-passports-look-black-brexit-uk-eu-a9570316.html

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Government mocked over new blue passports being ‘black’
If it’s really blue, says one expert, ‘it must be the most apologetic shade of blue they could find’
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[17-Jun-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
but like


[17-Jun-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
blue is _incredibly_ hard to see


[17-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
@Moon Flower http://womenandpolicing.com/violenceFS.asp

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[17-Jun-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
description text here


[17-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
description text here


[17-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Moon Flower#6088
description WHY DID I GET PINGED


[17-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
I thought you wanted to know about the "my wife's eye is black" meme thing


[17-Jun-20 09:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/17/paint-job-on-boris-johnson-plane-will-cost-taxpayer-900000-pounds

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Paint job on Boris Johnson's plane will cost taxpayer £900,000
Cost of union jack makeover represents value for money, says PM’s spokesman
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[17-Jun-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
>represents value for money, says PM’s spokesman


[17-Jun-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
mhm


[17-Jun-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
sure it does


[17-Jun-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
I bet you I can paint a whole block of houses with more surface area than an airliner for less than 900k pounds


[17-Jun-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
even if I used aircraft paint


[17-Jun-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
:wheeze:


[17-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/503237-bolton-says-trump-asked-chinese-leader-for-help-with-election

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Bolton says Trump asked Chinese leader for help with election
President Trump solicited Chinese President Xi Jinping's assistance in winning reelection, according to a forthcoming book from former White House national security adviser John Bolton.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_jinpingxi_050420getty_split_china.jpg


[17-Jun-20 10:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1273339250960928774

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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1273339250960928774
The protests are so popular that they’re now supported by majorities of Democrats and Republicans.

But this bipartisan support masks some of the enormous differences that still exist between the two parties on issues of race and discrimination. https://t.co/03DFAXEzGC
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[17-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
I like how they aren't even linking ABC's own work, just linking directly to 538


[17-Jun-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/tesler-protests-0615-1.png?w=575

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[17-Jun-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
who tf made this graph


[17-Jun-20 10:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I want to punch them


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How do I read it?


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone who doesn't get how to put lines.


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:roseconfused:


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The axis is at the bottom.


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically saying on all these views, Dems are way higher in percent.


[17-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/tesler-protests-0615-2.png?w=575

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[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, this is the kind of graph Republicans don't want to ever see.


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
literally anyone else would use side by side bars


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That is not a great visualization


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
which would make it _crystal clear_


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats united on an issue, while Republicans are only weakly opposed?


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a death sentence.


[17-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And notice the extremely compressed timeframe.


[17-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just the last 10 years.


[17-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans basically didn't change their minds in net.


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially of interest is the main growth is the last 4 years only.


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats basically kept thinking racism might be solved during Obama's second term.


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
wait, I see how this graph is meant to be read now


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racists turning to Trump seems to hav disillusioned them entirely.


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
what the FUCK


[17-Jun-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
who thought this was okay


[17-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think they were told to make Democrats the "side of progress by being on the right side of the graph"


[17-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is they do similar graphs for parties+independents


[17-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's a common style when they want to cram in issues and how overall voters vs. partisans feel.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I want side by side bar charts or boxplots


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Each row goes 0 to 100% and then there'll be three dots showing where people are by party.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
this is stupid


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to do this is space savings.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
it's the internet lmao


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
not a print medium


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Space still matters.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your graphs can't take up the whole page.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with side by side bars is larger bars raise vertical graph length.


[17-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe they just don't want anyone to understand it
And see two parties on opposing sides like enemies


[17-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the more distinctions you hav, the wider the graph as well.


[17-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
With this instead, the graph size is fixed by number of issues, always.


[17-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just pepper in more dots as you add distinctions


[17-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is bar graphs make more sense when you hav quantities and not percents.


[17-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quantities don't hav a fixed range.


[17-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically taking advantage of the fixed range.


[17-Jun-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
svg graphs pls


[17-Jun-20 10:46 PM] jlun2#8758
actual svg, & not "graph.svg.jpg" like those shitty png clip sites


[17-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Discord hates svg embeds


[17-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128633435441987584/722896221785686097/mlp.PNG

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[17-Jun-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
how


[17-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Filly Funtasia S2 when


[17-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He gets turned to stone for sniffing everypony

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[17-Jun-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
uh oh https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-asked-chinas-xi-to-help-him-win-reelection-according-to-bolton-book/2020/06/17/d4ea601c-ad7a-11ea-868b-93d63cd833b2_story.html


[17-Jun-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Here we go again!


[17-Jun-20 11:23 PM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie @Itsthinking


[17-Jun-20 11:24 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇨🇳 🦅


[17-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
ironically, its already linked an article about it a couple hours ago


[17-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> At the same meeting, Xi also defended China’s construction of camps housing as many as 1 million Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang — and Trump signaled his approval.


[17-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:trixdisgust:


[17-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, so Bolton didn't want to respond to a subpoena when this shit could actually have helped the impeachment


[17-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, trump literally went on to replicate it with his immigrant internment camps


[17-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But when he wants to sell a book he spills the beans


[17-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bolton is wanting to hedge his bets.


[17-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's way more damning to Trump to wait.


[17-Jun-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just impeach him again for this


[17-Jun-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-group/republicans-launch-another-pro-biden-super-pac-to-help-defeat-trump-idUSKBN23O33X

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Republicans launch another pro-Biden Super PAC to help defeat Trump
Republicans who worked for U.S. Presidents Donald Trump and George W. Bush have formed a Super PAC to support Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in November, the latest group launched by members of Trump's own party who will work to see him defeated.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200617&t=2&i=1522598700&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG5G1YJ


[17-Jun-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
> The new political action committee, called Right Side PAC, was founded by Matt Borges, the former head of the Ohio Republican Party, and Anthony Scaramucci, who lasted 10 days as Trump’s White House communications director in July 2017.


[17-Jun-20 11:35 PM] jimm#1439
how long until we have to pay for every website on our internet bill? been a year or two now hasn't it?


[17-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/17/americas_choice_chicago_or_maga_country_143472.html

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America's Choice: Chicago or MAGA Country | RealClearPolitics
Now-indicted actor Jussie Smollett claimed that Donald Trump partisans attacked him late at night on a deserted Chicago street in January 2019. Though most of the corporate media gladly amplified his...
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[17-Jun-20 11:36 PM] jimm#1439
I'm not opposed to NN but it's interesting nothing has happened yet


[17-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize that cities are so blue and rural areas are so red that they cancel each other out and maybe 30 or so counties that are suburban decide the election, right?


[17-Jun-20 11:36 PM] jimm#1439
besides like a phone carrier being allowed to offer unmetered pandora or whatever


[17-Jun-20 11:37 PM] jimm#1439
which I think the benefits of outweigh the anticompetitiveness


[17-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/explainers/net-neutrality-violations-brief-history

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Net Neutrality Violations: A Brief History
Here's what happens when cable and phone companies are left to their own devices.
https://www.freepress.net/sites/default/files/net-neutrality%20-protest.jpg


[17-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
that's stuff from before the rules set in place under obama


[17-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.publicknowledge.org/blog/broadband-providers-are-quietly-taking-advantage-of-an-internet-without-net-neutrality-protections/

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In December 2017, the Federal Communications Commission under Chairman Ajit Pai voted to repeal net neutrality rules enacted two years earlier. While 83 percent of Americans support net neutrality and…
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[17-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
even just a few days ago, it came out that cox cable was not only throttling a single user for taking the "unlimited" in his unlimited gigabit plan to the extreme, they throttled THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD HE LIVED IN


[17-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/cox-slows-internet-speeds-in-entire-neighborhoods-to-punish-any-heavy-users/

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Cox slows Internet speeds in entire neighborhoods to punish any hea...
Cox warns customers to lower usage, imposes 10Mbps upload limit on “gigabit” plan.
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[17-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
living up to the name


[17-Jun-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
the sad part is that it seems like the only potentially illegal thing they're doing is threatening to remove his service entirely


[17-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/503279-bolton-book-trump-said-itd-be-cool-to-invade-venezuela-claims

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Bolton alleges Trump said it'd be 'cool' to invade Venezuela
President Trump said it would be "cool" to invade Venezuela and that the South American country was "really part of the United States," according to a forthcoming book authored by former White House national security adviser
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_06172020getty.jpg


[17-Jun-20 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, this seems like stuff that should've come to light while the impeachment was going on if not earlier


[18-Jun-20 12:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the other hand, I do think that since this is a political play for money, it is a *smart* political play for money in that it seems to have taken a page out of the buttery males handbook in terms of timeline


[18-Jun-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/john-bolton-the-scandal-of-trumps-china-policy-11592419564

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John Bolton: The Scandal of Trump’s China Policy
The president pleaded with Chinese leader Xi Jinping for domestic political help, subordinated national-security issues to his own re-election prospects and ignored Beijing’s human-rights abuses.
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[18-Jun-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently trump was all for the chinese concentration camps


[18-Jun-20 12:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump is guaranteed to sic Barr on anyone who dares suggest investigating the validity of these claims, the book's going to be published just a couple months upstream of the election, and as a result anyone not already on the kool-aid is going to have a very hard time avoiding people asking questions about all this stuff


[18-Jun-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503222-bolton-claims-house-should-have-investigated-other-impeachable

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Bolton claims House should have investigated other impeachable offe...
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton claims in his forthcoming memoir that President Trump committed multiple impeachable offenses that House Democrats never investigated, according to a copy of the book
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[18-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gee if only we had some sort of legal order compelling you to tell the House about these things...

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[18-Jun-20 12:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, they wanted one but the senate republicans consistently and repeatedly voted against it


[18-Jun-20 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gee if only mcconnell was a senator and not a fucking door stop


[18-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Door stops are useful


[18-Jun-20 12:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially as gatekeepers


[18-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a fukking piece of garbage thrown into the machinery.


[18-Jun-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point, he's a broken door knob


[18-Jun-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's doing an excellent job keeping the door to opportunity *SHUT*


[18-Jun-20 12:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a doorknob that actually makes the door harder to open.


[18-Jun-20 12:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, he;s a broken door knob whose mechanism broke thus keeping the door shut


[18-Jun-20 12:08 AM] AaronMk#4499

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[18-Jun-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[18-Jun-20 12:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't like how far away the secret service agent is in this picture


[18-Jun-20 12:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He needs to be closer. The president might drown

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[18-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
are you sure that's not just obama?


[18-Jun-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
maybe that's why trump hates obama so much, obama has been stalking him for the past decade


[18-Jun-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He used dark magic to obtain the presidency, but now, only to him, all reflections are Obama.


[18-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wakes up and looks in the mirror, to see how his horrible combover is doing...but it's Obama, so he can discern nothing.


[18-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He only obtained the presidency to learn about aliens and find out Obama's last name.


[18-Jun-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A similar effect holds when he looks at pictures of himself, hence the complaints about lighting


[18-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The former was underwhelming and the latter is a secret even to him.


[18-Jun-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"well if there aren't aliens invading, I'll make my *own* alien invasion!"


[18-Jun-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
space force is the front for a false flag operation to frame the aliens and start the first human-alien war


[18-Jun-20 12:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-did-not-know-22209893

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An explosive book by John Bolton, the former US national security adviser, paints a withering portrait of a President ignorant of the basic world facts - and who allegedly intervened in criminal investigations to give favours to 'dictators he liked'
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[18-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
what's the fallacy involved in saying "you're racist if you point out racism"?


[18-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
or that "leftists are the REAL racists because they see racism in everything"


[18-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non sequitor.


[18-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's making a leap between two different ideas.


[18-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think that was the only one, and there is a sort of twisted logic that follows, even if it's the wrong conclusion


[18-Jun-20 01:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"twisted logic" I think is the key, this is a logical fallacy of some sort


[18-Jun-20 01:05 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1273114006924869632

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Trump administration sues John Bolton over his book one week before its release
The Trump administration is suing former national security advisor John Bolton over his memoir, The Room Where it Happened. The lawsuit says Bolton backed out of a vetting process and alleges the manuscript is "rife with classified information." The book has been printed, shipped to distributors and is set for release on June 23.
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[18-Jun-20 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If anything I'd say it's a reverse-causality fallacy combined with *tu quoque*


[18-Jun-20 01:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, they're claiming that because you're openly stating your observations on racism, you are the reason racism is prevalent, and that means you're part of the cycle and therefore you *are* racist


[18-Jun-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, racism can't exist if there's no one to perpetuate the idea, and clearly the left is disproportionately loud about it


[18-Jun-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or something like that


[18-Jun-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-said-journalists-deserve-to-be-executed-during-mattis-meeting-2020-6

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Trump said journalists deserve to be executed during a meeting with...
A former speechwriter for General Mattis said that President Trump said in a meeting between the the two that reporters deserve to be executed.
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[18-Jun-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bolton-trump-wanted-pompeo-kim-jong-un-rocket-man-cd-2020-6

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Trump was obsessed with giving Kim Jong Un a copy of Elton John's '...
Trump had previously called Kim "Rocket Man" as an insult in relation to North Korea's nuclear program.
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[18-Jun-20 01:35 AM] jlun2#8758
but the kool aid is so tasty with lib tears ~ orange voters


[18-Jun-20 01:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[18-Jun-20 01:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>served as policemen


[18-Jun-20 01:50 AM] green_byte#1188
That's what it says


[18-Jun-20 01:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
India is poking Poo Bear.


[18-Jun-20 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the point they're tryin to convey


[18-Jun-20 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is like


[18-Jun-20 01:52 AM] jimm#1439
did NN have anything to do with throttling? I wouldn't think indiscriminate throttling fell under it


[18-Jun-20 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The most brainless of macho posturing possible


[18-Jun-20 01:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The offensive way to call Indian in Chinese is "阿三"(a san), which pronounced as "a sir", is how Hong Kong people used to call a policeman


[18-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 02:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By the way, it's still not report that how many Chinese soldiers dead in the fight with indians


[18-Jun-20 02:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's said that 20 Indian dead


[18-Jun-20 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
no dead body posting.


[18-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@AlchemistLiang Gore is against Discord ToS and while that's pretty borderline please do not post things like that.


[18-Jun-20 02:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok...


[18-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://psmag.com/news/the-most-racist-people-are-the-most-likely-to-underestimate-their-racism

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New research finds that the famous Dunning-Kruger Effect extends to the way we think about our own racism and sexism.
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[18-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
> New research points to a third possibility. It finds that a lot of people underestimate their inherent racism and sexism because they never developed the mental skills required to recognize their own prejudices.

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[18-Jun-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
what a fuckin surprise


[18-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Raptorshy

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[18-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
who dat


[18-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hah


[18-Jun-20 02:18 AM] PwnyPony#6185
One of Indias ministers said their soldiers burned down a Chinese tent that some soldiers put in disputed territory and asked the Chinese guys to leave. Chinese then left and came back with sticks with nails in them. Indians fought back with fisticuffs and stone throwing. the fight ending with 20 dead Indians and 30+ Chinese. 
Either India has some of the best stone throwers and fist fighters in the world or something is wrong or missing from their story.


[18-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1273102488049192960

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Gov. Greg Abbott has barred Texas cities from implementing any rules that would require face coverings — despite a concerning uptick in the number of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in the state. 
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[18-Jun-20 02:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but why


[18-Jun-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
does the man hold stock in facial recognition technology


[18-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The liberals say to wear masks


[18-Jun-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
>SPOILER_gore.jpg


[18-Jun-20 02:49 AM] byte[]#2610
got me


[18-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's casus belli to says masks are bad


[18-Jun-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, this is *texas*


[18-Jun-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
does he think cowboys etc. just wore bandanas as a fashionable neck accessory


[18-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think he's ever had to worry about dust in his life


[18-Jun-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in an alternate universe, the mask requirement could be used as an opportunity to evoke some kind of cultural identity. Even if it's historical revisionism


[18-Jun-20 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
incidentally, spotted a daycare that had reopened on my way home today. They had the kids outside on the playground. Of the 3 adult supervisors, only 1 had a mask covering her mouth and nose, and 0 of the kids had masks (and were all crowding in the sandbox)


[18-Jun-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I understand that with businesses reopened some parents do need somewhere to send kids, but...this seems like an excellent way to boost community transmission in the least detectable way possible


[18-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[18-Jun-20 03:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh. That's...reflective of many things


[18-Jun-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though I think we're pretty safe from having a constitutional amendment overturned in the current political climate


[18-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A constitutional convention though


[18-Jun-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
more likely the whole thing would just be suspended because of a super-duper national emergency or something


[18-Jun-20 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if your goal is to make the rules not matter so much, what's to say you need to follow the rules about making the rules not matter


[18-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found this quote


[18-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012."
— Ruth Bader Ginsburg


[18-Jun-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is how we knew the system of checks and balances had broken: we hit the point at which the GOP realized they could just say "no" to doing their jobs and upholding oaths and the law without consequences


[18-Jun-20 03:09 AM] AaronMk#4499
The constitution was never written to maintain ideological informed parties, but regionally informed parties. The early party structure generally followed regional lines


[18-Jun-20 03:09 AM] jlun2#8758
1 giant region


[18-Jun-20 03:10 AM] jlun2#8758
internet changed politics a lot


[18-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
The geographical distinctions of Northern Republicans and Southern Dems shifted after the Civil War to be Ohio Republicans and New York Democrats. Even though I should add the Republicans or Dems were not eternal parties and the northern party would have once been the Federalists.


[18-Jun-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm hesitant to call it a full-blown conspiracy, but suffice to say if there is any grain of truth to the theories about the "deep state" it's that political parties have superseded the organizational structure of the government itself


[18-Jun-20 03:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
> internet changed politics a lot
@jlun2 

No. This form emerged in the 1950's and 60's.


[18-Jun-20 03:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, the parties have always kind of been working through back-door channels (see: tammany hall etc) but I think this administration marked the first time in a good long while that they dropped pretense


[18-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Honahue#0656
internet just lifted the curtain on rich people and proved they weren't elite humans with amazing work ethic but detatch sociopaths born lucky


[18-Jun-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd sooner call it good ol' fashioned corruption and emergent behavior leading our elected officials to toe the "party line" (which is derived from think tanks, lobbyists, and other monied sources) than say that any of them have been plotting some vast, secret network of conspiracy


[18-Jun-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
individually, yes


[18-Jun-20 03:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
If anything's the internet came at a time when the political relationships of the parties had become fully ideological. Up until maybe the eighties you could have bi-partisan politics because there was still entirely geographical interests of the parties. Southern Dems could work with the rising Republican NeoConservative movement because of an interest in being against broad civil rights, whether those same Republicans were from today's liberal strongholds of the Atlantic northern coast.


[18-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no conspiracy just people acting towards their material and class intrests


[18-Jun-20 03:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's lots of mini-conspiracies and conspiracy-adjacent stuff though


[18-Jun-20 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like how apparently pedophilia is just commonplace among the elite and the coverup of that goes hand-in-hand


[18-Jun-20 03:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is no single conspiracy. The ultimate conspiracy that captures all conspiracies is that no one is in control of the ship.


[18-Jun-20 03:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and ofc the not-so-secret games they play with wealth, re: insider trading, offshore accounts, etc


[18-Jun-20 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Really, I think if the internet has changed anything, it's not that it brought these people together. They've been networked for far longer than that


[18-Jun-20 03:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's that the information age makes secrets much harder to keep


[18-Jun-20 03:19 AM] jlun2#8758
> no one is in control of the ship.
sounds right. hiveminds are amazing


[18-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Honahue#0656
the only reason anything looks like a conspiracy is that humans like seeing patterns and it's in some way more comforting to believe in malevolence than indifference because at least malevolence see you as someone worth hating


[18-Jun-20 03:26 AM] AaronMk#4499
Wingbeat should listen to TrueAnon


[18-Jun-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how about I don't like getting my information from podcasts or youtube videos in general


[18-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't like getting my information from youtube videos in general mostly because people don't know how to make 1 minute of reading not take 12 minutes of my time


[18-Jun-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah those videos that take 1 hour to say 5 minutes of information


[18-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/06/15/conover-wisconsin-man-seen-walking-dog-ku-klux-klan-robe-and-hood/3192404001/

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Vilas County man seen walking dog in KKK robe and hood
A widely shared image of a person in a KKK-style white and green robe and hood began circulating on Facebook Saturday.
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[18-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
>JSON line


[18-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.cbs58.com/news/man-wearing-kkk-robe-and-hood-seen-walking-along-northern-wisconsin-highway>


[18-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Crow#5457
> "While the Sheriff’s Office was not able to take enforcement action the Sheriff’s Office does not condone his behavior or actions. The KKK beliefs run contrary to Vilas County Law Enforcement’s mission, values, and beliefs.
> 
> We thank those that have come forward and informed us of the situation, so that we may deal with it in a manner that continues to develop strong community partnerships. The KKK is classified as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
> 
> We strongly discourage this type of actions in Vilas County. We will be vigilant and continue to monitor this man’s actions. Our patrol staff knows of this man and we frequently patrol this area of Vilas County.
> 
> This incident certainly is not supported by the people of Conover or the rest of Vilas County."


[18-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ntd.com/atlanta-authorities-release-new-photos-of-wendys-arson-suspect_476400.html

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Atlanta Authorities Release New Photos of Wendy's Arson Suspect
Atlanta fire chiefs released new photos of one of the suspects in an arson investigation of a Wendy's ...
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[18-Jun-20 05:29 AM] Crow#5457
revenge of the karens


[18-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Crow#5457
> Oliver said there are multiple suspects in the case and that investigators only have “quality photos of two of them,” adding that he believes both suspects are white females.


[18-Jun-20 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>give me hashbrowns when i asked for curly fries, will you


[18-Jun-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503188-richmond-installs-concrete-barriers-around-lee-statue-slated-for-removal

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Richmond installs concrete barriers around Lee statue slated for re...
Virginia officials have installed concrete barriers around the statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee on Richmond’s Monument Ave. after protesters toppled several other statues in the state's capital.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/robertelee_statue_060420.jpg


[18-Jun-20 05:31 AM] Crow#5457
... why protect it if it's slated for removal?

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[18-Jun-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
protestors need to bring a pickup now to tow them out


[18-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://decaturish.com/2020/06/atlanta-police-walkout-following-murder-charge-against-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks/

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Atlanta Police walk out following murder charge against officer who...
The head of Atlanta's police union confirmed Wednesday that officers from the Atlanta Police Department in Zones 3 and 6 walked off the job Wednesday afternoon.
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[18-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Crow#5457
> The head of Atlanta’s police union confirmed Wednesday that officers from the Atlanta Police Department in Zones 3 and 6 walked off the job Wednesday afternoon.
> 
> Vince Champion, southeast regional director of the International Brotherhood of Police officers, said that police officers had stopped answering calls midshift, in response to charges against Officer Garrett Rolfe who is accused of murdering Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.
> 
> “The union, we would never advocate this. We wouldn’t advocate a blue flu,” Champion said. “We don’t know the numbers. Apparently we’re learning that command staff are asking outlying counties for support and aren’t getting it.”


[18-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Did ya'll know the KKK didn't wear a single uniform as they were so disorganized although most used the capirote


[18-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Another server I hang in was talking about this


[18-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8429013/Fired-officer-shot-Rayshard-Brooks-dead-begged-father-four-stay-alive-gave-CPR.html

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Fired officer who shot Rayshard Brooks dead begged him to stay alive
DailyMail.com can reveal Officer Garrett Rolfe begged Rayshard Brooks to stay alive after shots were fired, as seen on the officer's body camera that was picked up by another officer.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/17/13/29712958-0-image-a-12_1592398187394.jpg


[18-Jun-20 05:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>>> [...]
Rolfe informed Brooks, 'I think you've had too much to drink,' and moved to cuff him when Brooks tried to make a break for it.

DailyMail.com has learned that Brooks was on probation and faced going back to prison if he was charged with a DUI.

It was the fear of incarceration that likely caused Brooks to panic in the face of imminent arrest and caused him to run.

Brooks punched one of the officers, stole Brosnan's taser and made a run for it.

He turned to shoot the stun gun at Rolfe who pursued, ditching his own taser and unholstering his gun in that instant.
[...]


[18-Jun-20 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
man, brooks really wasn't good at following that guy's orders, was he


[18-Jun-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't get it https://twitter.com/TomKludt/status/1273051003881996288

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[18-Jun-20 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what, did tim post this in the roughly 2 hours between when the story first broke and when it was determined that the cops were not, in fact, poisoned by shake shack employees


[18-Jun-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I thought he was trying to build a reputable news empire, what with all the whining he made about the Subverse game stepping on his trademark's toes


[18-Jun-20 06:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(oh, no, wait, he co-opted that news empire from someone else and took all the credit for the work)


[18-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JeuneMuller/status/1273072324028358657

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[18-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
tim pool's always been a grifter, it's apparently only recently that people have started realizing he isn't actually a "middle ground centrist" and only makes content that pleases his base (aka the alt-right)


[18-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/it-doesnt-work-like-that-thats-not-how-it-works-head-shake-annoyed-mad-gif-15300474

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[18-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Honahue#0656
if there wasn't an impending climate crisis coming up I could 100% see in a generation or 2 reactionaries going "slavery didn't happened but I wish it had"


[18-Jun-20 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
let's be honest, no one was learning history from the statues to begin with


[18-Jun-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sure if you looked you could find people who already deny that it happened, too


[18-Jun-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/723026085574475816/image0.jpg

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[18-Jun-20 06:37 AM] Synfag#9241
damned if you do


[18-Jun-20 06:37 AM] Synfag#9241
damned if you don't


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
We'll have to send in the backup


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>>146422


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
It's time for mutual aid


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>>146422


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>>146422


[18-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>>146422


[18-Jun-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless the problem is that all the surrounding counties are where Atlanta PD has been shuttling off their problem children to for years


[18-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess Discord is broken then :shrugpony:


[18-Jun-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless the problem is that all the surrounding counties are where Atlanta PD has been shuttling off their problem children to for years


[18-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Synfag#9241
time to prove if this kind of system works
https://getcell411.com/

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Cell 411: World's Favorite Emergency And Personal Safety App
Stream video that cannot be erased, issue GPS emergency alerts to trusted friends and make your community safer by responding to emergencies from other users
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[18-Jun-20 06:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess Discord is broken then :shrugpony:


[18-Jun-20 06:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I guess Discord is broken then :shrugpony:


[18-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh, that one went through. Okay.


[18-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Anyway, time to send in the backup >>146422


[18-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Anyway, time to send in the backup >>146422


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[18-Jun-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep, many red messages here


[18-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>you should be able to fire employees that frivolously call in sick and refuse to work for political reasons
cops refuse to work because they don't like being under the same checks and balances as everyone and get fired
>NO NOT LIKE THAT


[18-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>you should be able to fire employees that frivolously call in sick and refuse to work for political reasons
cops refuse to work because they don't like being under the same checks and balances as everyone and get fired
>NO NOT LIKE THAT


[18-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>you should be able to fire employees that frivolously call in sick and refuse to work for political reasons
cops refuse to work because they don't like being under the same checks and balances as everyone and get fired
>NO NOT LIKE THAT


[18-Jun-20 06:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess thank god cops are all unionized


[18-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something conservative bootlickers refuse to allow for practically any other profession


[18-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something conservative bootlickers refuse to allow for practically any other profession


[18-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something conservative bootlickers refuse to allow for practically any other profession


[18-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>you should be able to fire employees that frivolously call in sick
You really really shouldn't. This honestly only breeds hostility towards anybody for calling in sick ever. So nobody does, so disease spreads.


[18-Jun-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If discord were any more shit today it'd have to complete with discord for the title of king of shit


[18-Jun-20 06:46 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If they're a terrible worker and are trying to get out of work, they'll show other signs that are much easier to detect and don't involve being a dick to people who shouldn't be working


[18-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
police shouldn't even be unionized to begin with, they're empowered to enforce the will of the government, not people working for private entities that seek to constantly overwork and undercompensate them


[18-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
>if they're a terrible worker
why would I want to work hard when I don't get paid more for busting my ass then I do for doing the minimum to not get fired?


[18-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
>if they're a terrible worker
why would I want to work hard when I don't get paid more for busting my ass then I do for doing the minimum to not get fired?


[18-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Showing initiative helps you move up. Though lots of things factor into that


[18-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
really depends on the job if that's true a lot of times just being able to stick with the occupation gets you promoted not any actual ability


[18-Jun-20 06:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> Showing initiative helps you move up
I thought that only happens to the manager's friends or boomers


[18-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Iunno, I've become shift lead at pretty much every place I've worked at because I'm good with customers and I show a lot of initiative, consistently.


[18-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And because I know how to delegate properly


[18-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Honestly knowing how to delegate probably gets you 90% of the way there by itself


[18-Jun-20 06:55 AM] jlun2#8758
nice


[18-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It takes a lot of experience to properly delegate without seeming bossy, and to follow up without misunderstanding that by delegating you lose some control over how exactly its executed (all while maintaining ultimate responsibility).


[18-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's a weird headspace to get in for a lot of people and takes a lot of practice.


[18-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/Goorkan10/status/1273483417037012992

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ساخت اولین بنای یادبود در منطقه خودمختار چَز در قلب سیاتل آمریکا.
در این مدت که این منطقه اشغال شده، هیچ پلیسی در منطقه حضور نداشته
مرکز پلیس سیاتل مهر و مومه و کسی واردش نشده
و کشور چَز تبدیل به یک کشور توریستی شده.

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[18-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Synfag#9241
glass in pizza
https://www.newsweek.com/south-carolina-national-guard-says-glass-found-troops-pizza-while-deployed-dc-protests-was-1510344


[18-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Synfag#9241
razorblade in food
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/police-find-metal-blade-in-food-from-alhambra-restaurant/

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Police find metal blade in food from Alhambra restaurant
A group of San Marino police officers found a metal blade in their food order after picking it up from an Alhambra restaurant on Thursday, but the incident was believed to be accidental, officials …
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[18-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Synfag#9241
poisoned by shakes
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shake-shack-horrified-reports-3-nypd-officers-hospitalized-after-drinking-n1231142

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'No criminality' by Shake Shack workers after 3 cops sickened by dr...
Shake Shack said in a statement: "Our team is working hard to get the full picture. In the meantime, we’re relieved to hear the officers are all okay."
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[18-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Synfag#9241
all totally accidental or no criminality
they said so themselves


[18-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Raptorshy#6268

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[18-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
ew


[18-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Honahue#0656
who do you think would investigate them? if they aren't getting investigated it's probably because they are lying


[18-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Honahue#0656
not like cops haven't planted evidence on people before


[18-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Honahue#0656
the pizza guy gonna bring in a baggy of broken glass on the off chance a cop orders something


[18-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Synfag#9241
they already concluded that it's accidental


[18-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Synfag#9241
end of story


[18-Jun-20 07:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That blade looks like it came out of one of those awful "safety" bag opener things


[18-Jun-20 07:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I remember some other restaurant made the news a couple years back because a customer ended up with the blade from that thing in their food


[18-Jun-20 08:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
before that happened I'd always looked at them thinking "the blade is just held in by welded plastic tabs, how does it not fall out" but I guess it does


[18-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@byte[] since you mentioned cringe in child cartoons
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699353320053145610/721386661279432744/video0_17.mp4

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[18-Jun-20 09:04 AM] jlun2#8758
what show is that


[18-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Ooo! I know


[18-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Wonder showzen


[18-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Here is a more full version
It was on MTV, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Alw_thNiM

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ʬ Wonder Showzen Diversity YouTube
ʬ Wonder Showzen shows us how to celebrate Diversity

ʬ Wonder Showzen Diversity YouTube
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[18-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I gotta download that and watch it again


[18-Jun-20 09:14 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[18-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[18-Jun-20 10:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/legal-challenges/503314-appeals-court-says-trump-administration-cant-force

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Appeals court says Trump administration can't force drugmakers to d...
A federal appeals court ruled against the Trump administration on Wednesday, finding that it does not have the legal authority to mandate that drug manufacturers display the prices of their medicines in television advertisements.
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[18-Jun-20 10:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/17/trump-signs-bill-condemning-chinas-uighur-camps-shortly-after-bolton-book-claims-he-encouraged-them/

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Trump Signs Bill Condemning China’s Uighur Camps Shortly After Bolt...
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s new book contains several stunning new allegations against the president.
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[18-Jun-20 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1273072852519079937

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[18-Jun-20 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/business/aunt-jemima-logo-change/index.html

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The Aunt Jemima brand, acknowledging its racist past, will be retired
Quaker Oats is retiring the more than 130-year-old Aunt Jemima brand and logo, acknowledging its origins are based on a racial stereotype.
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[18-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Onion reported the news a day before it happened.


[18-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Synfag#9241
> *Aunt Jemima brand will donate $5 million over the next five years to "create meaningful, ongoing support and engagement in the Black community."*


[18-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/business/bank-of-america-billion-dollar-donation/index.html

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Bank of America pledges $1 billion to fight racial inequality
Bank of America is donating $1 billion over the next four years to community programs and small businesses to help address economic and racial inequality that has been exacerbated by Covid-19.
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[18-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/entertainment/kanye-west-two-million-dollar-donation/index.html

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Kanye West pays college tuition for George Floyd's daughter
Kanye West has made a $2 million donation to support the families of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbrery, and Breonna Taylor, along with black-owned businesses in crisis in his native Chicago, a representative for West told CNN.
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[18-Jun-20 01:09 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bts-army-match-million-dollar-donation-to-black-lives-matter/ar-BB15crvy

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BTS ARMY Match Million Dollar Donation to Black Lives Matter
This weekend, BTS and Big Hit Entertainment donated a total of $1 million to Black Lives Matter organizations. Inspiring their loyal BTS ARMY to set the #MatchAMillion goal to band together and match the donation amount to BLM and other organizations committed to racial equali...


[18-Jun-20 01:10 PM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 01:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[18-Jun-20 01:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/fifty-four-scientists-have-lost-their-jobs-result-nih-probe-foreign-ties

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Fifty-four scientists have lost their jobs as a result of NIH probe...
New data reveal extent of ongoing investigation
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[18-Jun-20 02:39 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Cop and doggystle? Could someone explain?


[18-Jun-20 02:40 PM] AaronMk#4499
Cops, at least in America have a habit of shooting dogs. To do someone doggy style is a sexual position. For a cop to do someone doggy style is to just shoot them


[18-Jun-20 02:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/matthewchampion/status/1273534016570957824?s=20

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had to listen back a few times to check Dominic Raab really said this

"On this taking the knee thing, I don't know maybe it's got a broader history, it seems to be taken from the Game of Thrones, feels to me like a symbol of subjugation and subordination"
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[18-Jun-20 02:54 PM] Synfag#9241
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[18-Jun-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/netanyahu-plans-to-annex-30-percent-of-west-bank-axios-2020-6

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[18-Jun-20 04:14 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[18-Jun-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
I was always astonished with how US conservatives were SO offended by a guy takinga knee


[18-Jun-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
it's not jsut GoT taking a knee is pretty submissive move


[18-Jun-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
and yet


[18-Jun-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
they still got assblasted over it


[18-Jun-20 04:15 PM] ononim#8141
not even laughing at it, just absolutely bewildered


[18-Jun-20 04:18 PM] ononim#8141
If you asked me "what pose is fit to do then anthem plays to show your allegiance and subordinance to it" a few years ago, kneeling would absolutely be on the list


[18-Jun-20 04:20 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why kneel when you can T-pose.


[18-Jun-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-closing-down-country-again-not-coronavirus-cases-increase-states-2020-6

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[18-Jun-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-daca-decision-trump-obama-2020-6

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[18-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit, that's gonna seriously piss trump off


[18-Jun-20 05:00 PM] Crow#5457
one of his biggest goals seems to have been the deportation of the dreamers


[18-Jun-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273633632742191106?s=19

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These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives. We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 202...
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[18-Jun-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat


[18-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-protest/shooting-charge-dropped-against-suspected-new-mexico-shooter-idUSKBN23P08W

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Shooting charge dropped against suspected New Mexico shooter
A New Mexico prosecutor on Wednesday dropped a shooting charge against an Albuquerque man suspected of shooting a protester and called for further investigations after allegations the protester was armed at the time he was shot.
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[18-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the guy who got shot in new mexico had a knife


[18-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Crow#5457
which means that the shooting would be self-defense


[18-Jun-20 05:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jun-20 05:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying it's symbolism but it might be symbolism


[18-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jewishaction/status/1273482511918616578

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The President of the United States is campaigning for reelection using a Nazi concentration camp symbol.

Nazis used the red triangle to mark political prisoners and people who rescued Jews.

Trump & the RNC are using it to smear millions of protestors.

Their masks are off.
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[18-Jun-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you forget history


[18-Jun-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
First as tragedy, then as farce...


[18-Jun-20 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
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[18-Jun-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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The Australian breakfast staple, Kellogg's Coco Pops, is under fire over its 'racist' monkey branding. Full story: https://t.co/XahnnszdnQ https://t.co/anIKS2vP3D
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[18-Jun-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spain: "pathetic. Watch this, kid"


[18-Jun-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jun-20 06:37 PM] wren#0114
@prism stryder(intexda) the war on furries


[18-Jun-20 07:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Jun-20 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53089037

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Image appears to show India-China clash weapons
A picture shared widely on social media in India purportedly shows nail-studded rods used by Chinese.
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[18-Jun-20 07:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wth


[18-Jun-20 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So apparently, there's an agreement from 1996 between India and China which stipulates that no firearms should be used in the disputed area in order to deter escalation


[18-Jun-20 07:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the local border troops just play Skyrim irl when shit gets real


[18-Jun-20 07:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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NBC News was called out late Sunday over a pair of tweets sent about an hour apart that critics said showed bias when reporting on President Trump rallies and the protests that have emerged in the wake of George Floyd’s death in police custody.
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[18-Jun-20 07:40 PM] BCS#4111
fuck trump

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[18-Jun-20 07:42 PM] byte[]#2610
cool story bro


[18-Jun-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-claim-bolton-is-lying-contradicts-claim-book-is-classified-2020-6

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[18-Jun-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jun-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
wonder if they will impeach again


[18-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not unless it's ironclad, so probably not


[18-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/18/tech/facebook-trump-ads-triangle-takedown/index.html

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Facebook on Thursday said it had take action against ads run by President Trump's re-election campaign for breaching its policies on hate. The ads, which attacked what the Trump campaign described as "Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups," featured an upside-down triangle.
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[18-Jun-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
>when you go too far even for facebook


[18-Jun-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[18-Jun-20 08:11 PM] jlun2#8758
he's going to push for 203 gone & be like "Why am I facebook ban"


[18-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
replies are gold
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1273646748364427264

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@mmfa This is an emoji.🔻

It's also a symbol widely used by Antifa. It was used in an ad about Antifa.

It is not in the ADL's Hate Symbols Database.
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[18-Jun-20 08:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://fucktrump.art/

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Fuck Trump - Art for Protest. Vote for Change
We, the Artists of the United People of the Planet enthusiastically denounce Donald Trump as an incredibly dangerous threat. Fuck Trump


[18-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/shinychrome78/status/1273653542260277250

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@TrumpWarRoom @mmfa Yeah why the hell did you guys run exactly 88 ads?
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[18-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who would want lewds of Trump?


[18-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
apparently they ran 88 ads


[18-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really weird how all these coincidences just keep happening


[18-Jun-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
@Эᴚ|∫ derpi already has btw


[18-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Lewds of trump?


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
there's 2365421, but I don't think it counts


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
:ewstraight:


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] jlun2#8758
.c trump,human,explicit,-edit


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
**2** images match query '_trump,human,explicit,-edit_'.


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
also there's that one of him fucking fluttershy


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Holy...


[18-Jun-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
and giving the viewer the finger


[18-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen lewd arts of previous SA president. And it was not internet art. Real art.


[18-Jun-20 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/AntiFashGordon/status/1273655799701819392

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@TrumpWarRoom @mmfa Hi!

Antifa here, just popped by to say that the red triangle is a symbol used by (1) Nazis, (2) the Trump campaign, and (3) not any antifascists I've ever heard of.

Glad we could clear that up.

Now, why did you run 88 versions of the ad? And why is the ...
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[18-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, rule34 applies even outside internet, no exceptions, hey


[18-Jun-20 08:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53087931

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That '70s Show star charged with raping three women
Danny Masterson is charged with raping the women, who were all in their 20s, between 2001 and 2003.
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[18-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Who is this.


[18-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Honahue#0656
I know his character but can't remember his name


[18-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Honahue#0656
but he had sideburns and wore aviators


[18-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Jun-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hyde


[18-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Steven Hyde


[18-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RebootedStef/status/1273662654737981444

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CEO of Antifa (@RebootedStef)
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@Lukalumy @AntiFashGordon @Spoonhead8 @TrumpWarRoom @mmfa Yes, this is absolute nonsense and of there person who posted this vile slander does not apologise and delete we will be forced to get the lawyers involved.
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[18-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
holy crap, it's the CEO of Antifa in person


[18-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine the girl with blakk hair saying STEVEN


[18-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because his entire charactor was to be naughty.


[18-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-ladies-and-gentlemen-em-gif-15781907

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[18-Jun-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-falsely-claims-he-made-juneteenth-very-famous-2020-6

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Trump falsely claims he made Juneteenth, a holiday marking the end ...
Trump falsely said "nobody" had ever heard of Juneteenth until him. It's been widely celebrated in some form since 1865.
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[18-Jun-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's taking credit for juneteenth now...


[18-Jun-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-governor-nebraska-pete-ricketts-federal-relief-funds-cities-2020-6

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A Republican governor is threatening to withhold $100 million in fe...
Local officials said they had little choice but to comply with Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts' order to get the federal cash.
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[18-Jun-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/06/17/20-year-old-robinhood-customer-commits-suicide-after-seeing-a-730000-negative-balance/

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20-Year-Old Robinhood Customer Dies By Suicide After Seeing A $730,...
Amid the wave of newcomers to what has become a casino stock market, a novice options trader takes his own life.
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[18-Jun-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
>when WSB consumes you


[18-Jun-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
> His final note, filled with anger toward Robinhood, says that he had “no clue” what he was doing. 
🤦


[18-Jun-20 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jun-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_studies_affair this is fun to read about

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Grievance studies affair
The Grievance studies affair, also referred to as the "Sokal Squared" scandal, was the project of a team of three authors—James A. Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Helen Pluckrose—to highlight what they regarded as poor scholarship in several academic fields. Taking place over 2...
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[18-Jun-20 09:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-world-beating-track-and-trace-system-ready-for-schools-to-reopen-pm-promises-11991606
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/18/uk-poised-to-abandon-coronavirus-app-in-favour-of-apple-and-google-models

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Coronavirus: 'World-beating' track and trace system ready for schoo...
It comes after a government adviser said an effective version of the programme must work before social distance changes come in.
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UK abandons contact-tracing app in favour of Apple and Google model
NHS will switch to alternative design by tech giants, says Matt Hancock in latest embarrassing U-turn
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[18-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[18-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The three words that don't apply.


[18-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
compared to trump, he is


[18-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
compared to normal people, biden's indecent, cruel, and insane


[18-Jun-20 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
I think vs trump it's just different kind of awful


[18-Jun-20 10:11 PM] ononim#8141
real nightmare goggles moment


[18-Jun-20 10:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Jun-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, Biden's the first time I'll be voting for a conservative presidential candidate

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[18-Jun-20 10:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
only because my options are conservative and narcissist with fascist tendencies


[18-Jun-20 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Grrr i'm tired of far-right buffoon president, why can't we have center-right buffoon president who spends less time on twitter instead


[18-Jun-20 10:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that'd be...biden


[18-Jun-20 10:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the joke


[18-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Treascair#7785
I'll take a flaming bag of dog shit over Trump and his ilk at this point.


[18-Jun-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, at least literal flaming bags of dog shit can't use a veto or sign pointless or harmful executive orders i guess


[18-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Who would Hillary be in that case, left, right or center?


[18-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just wondering.


[18-Jun-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
right


[18-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Further right than Biden


[18-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is the most far left candidate Democrats have ever had


[18-Jun-20 10:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People undersell that


[18-Jun-20 10:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1273619642355982336?s=19

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Amazing news.

President Obama knew Dreamers were an inseparable part of the fabric of our nation.

The Trump administration abandoned them, but they’re #HereToStay.

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[18-Jun-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503413-trump-calls-for-new-justices-on-supreme-court-after-unfavorable

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President Trump on Thursday escalated his criticism of the Supreme Court after a pair of rulings this week against his administration, calling for new justices to be appointed and pledging to release a new list of potential nominees ahead of Novem
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[18-Jun-20 11:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can SCOTUS judges be fired? Just asking


[18-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[18-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They can be impeached.


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Good fukking lukk with that.


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ye


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] jlun2#8758
orange man


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I always read that as I south carolina of the united states


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Scrotum and Cock Of The United States


[18-Jun-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scrunchy crunch of the united states


[18-Jun-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
he didnt think of this when he nominated didnt he


[18-Jun-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
SCROTUS


[18-Jun-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
senate congressional republicans of the US


[18-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There have been 8 impeachments that led to removals in the entire history of the US (at the federal level)


[18-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All district judges


[18-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Supreme Court Justice has only been impeached once


[19-Jun-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bolton really should thank Trump for acting as his publicist pro bono


[19-Jun-20 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503244-bolton-claims-trump-called-for-scumbag-journalists-to-be-executed

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Bolton claims Trump called journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'ex...
Former White House national security adviser John Bolton claims in his forthcoming memoir that
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[19-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the trump campaign is calling the inverted red triangle an "emoji"


[19-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
🔻


[19-Jun-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
this one


[19-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
but that completely ignores how they're using it in conjunction with calling "antifa" a "terrorist group"


[19-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
the inverted red triangle from nazi germany was used to denote a political prisoner (social democrats, anarchists, communists, antifascists, etc) in the concentration camps


[19-Jun-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
also, they reportedly ran 88 variations of the ads


[19-Jun-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
which contained 14 words each


[19-Jun-20 12:53 AM] wren#0114
some intern gonna get fired


[19-Jun-20 12:53 AM] byte[]#2610
you know, I have my doubts that it was an intern


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't want interns to do shit.


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
he wants "his man"


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He regularly calls for someone he knows personally, who is loyal, to do things.


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And he often controls them very directly.


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
this seems like something stephen miller personally signed off on


[19-Jun-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
with full knowledge


[19-Jun-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea of actual delegation to someone who knows what they're doing and may use that knowledge instead of Trump's own ideas is incredibly repugnant to Trump.


[19-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
One time in a meeting with Xi, Trump didn't like the phrase "memorandum of understanding"


[19-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
his gut said it didn't mean something was compulsory, but in fact it very much did.


[19-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he got mad when the guy tried to correct him on the matter, and said that they're no longer doing memorandums of understanding, they'll call them something else.


[19-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is both incredibly ignorant and incredibly petty about it.


[19-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason they are called that btw is so that it's pointed out that the two parties *came to an understanding*, which is to say that even if one party is against what was agreed to, they've agreed anyways, rather than actually saying they support the action taken wholeheartedly.


[19-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump has regularly done 14/88 related things


[19-Jun-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-wearing-masks-show-disapproval-not-as-preventive-measure-2020-6

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Trump says he thinks some Americans are wearing masks to show they ...
The president also went on to say that he "created the greatest testing machine in history" but that increased testing makes the US "look bad."
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[19-Jun-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
...


[19-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Called it over a month ago


[19-Jun-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
that's cheating, he's too predictable


[19-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh, it's like betting on red or black in roulette


[19-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-trump/facebook-takes-down-trump-ads-over-organized-hate-policy-idUSKBN23P3AH

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Facebook takes down Trump ads over 'organized hate' policy
Facebook Inc said on Thursday it took down posts and ads run by the re-election campaign of U.S. President Donald Trump for violating its policy against organized hate.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200618&t=2&i=1522750431&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG5H2CJ


[19-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You've got a 50/50 shot


[19-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"They put their finger on the mask, and they take them off, and then they start touching their eyes and touching their nose and their mouth," the president said. "And then they don't know how they caught it?


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has a point


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, a version was already linked.


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought FB only took them down just a bit ago.


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
dated 2018: <https://apnews.com/aad956b7281f4057aaac1ef4b5732f12/Federal-agency-says-it-lost-track-of-1,488-migrant-children>


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
that's a mighty specific number you got there


[19-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They won't do 13/50 because they want the black vote


[19-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That one might be a coincidence.


[19-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They had 1475 the previous year.


[19-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they fudged the numbers, it was probably by like 3.


[19-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503489-fox-news-poll-bidens-lead-widens-to-12-points-over-trump

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Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
Former Vice President Joe Biden has opened up a 12 point lead over President Trump in the
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_bidenjoe_052120getty_split_camp-spending.jpg


[19-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it too late/early to say "The reason Trump won in 2016 can at least be partially attributed to third parties"


[19-Jun-20 01:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm expecting it to cross back over by the time the election rolls around


[19-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is the concept of third parties siphoning away votes so controversial


[19-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Perot helped Clinton a ton in 1992 and Nader helped GW Bush in 2000


[19-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] source on the 14 part?


[19-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its, because it unveils.


[19-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't want the voters to think about how shitty the voting system is.


[19-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It riles people up.


[19-Jun-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610

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[19-Jun-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2020/06/18/Trump%20campaign%20ads%20with%20Nazi%20symbol.png?itok=sAej2Yu6

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[19-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Realizing that third parties can *hurt* people...problematic.


[19-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where did they run 88 ads?


[19-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it could be a coincidence, but given that there were 88 ads, and the symbol is literally nazi propaganda, it doesn't really feel that farfetched to be intentional


[19-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Facebook


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Wait... how do you run exactly *88* ads in the first place?


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
facebook ad console


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
One would think you'd just round it off to 90


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
it's 88 variations of the same thing


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Or cap it at 100


[19-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But *specifically* 88


[19-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
@Marukomuru , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

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Fourteen Words
Fourteen Words, 14, or 14/88, is a reference to the fourteen-word slogan "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children," or the less commonly used "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." The slogans were origi...


[19-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
88 means Heil Hitler.


[19-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's them saying "come vote for us, Nazis"


[19-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's what I mean. There's no way it could be coincidence because it's *so precise*


[19-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[19-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How readily visible was it that there were 88


[19-Jun-20 01:35 AM] wren#0114
the 88 is concerning, but the 14 seems like a stretch imo


[19-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There are people who today object to use of the word "Nazi" because a Jewish guy coined it (based off a term for socialist, Sozi)


[19-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then claim they aren't fascists


[19-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol

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Facebook let the Trump campaign run ads with inverted red triangle ...
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[19-Jun-20 01:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's pause and think about this. If it was supposed to be related to antifa, why would the ceo of antifa choose an infamous fascist symbol for the movement


[19-Jun-20 01:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe as a repurposed symbol worn as a badge of pride?


[19-Jun-20 01:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But that's a stretch, well


[19-Jun-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
On the flipside, what would trump have to gain from including a faecist symbol that means "lock up these political enemies" in an ad talking about "dangerous MOBS"


[19-Jun-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not so stretchy to me


[19-Jun-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I talked about this earlier


[19-Jun-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
> [the 14 words] could be a coincidence, but given that there were 88 ads, and the symbol is literally nazi propaganda, it doesn't really feel that farfetched to be intentional


[19-Jun-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His boomer base doesn't care anyway


[19-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Cursed edit someone did
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[19-Jun-20 01:47 AM] wren#0114
yeah the conjunction stacks it up


[19-Jun-20 01:47 AM] illumnious#7938
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[19-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hbe6nl/black_hotel_worker_shuts_down_woman_who_called/

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r/PublicFreakout - Black hotel worker shuts down woman who called h...
15,196 votes and 1,163 comments so far on Reddit
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[19-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Black hotel worker shuts down woman who called him the N-word as she begs for a room


[19-Jun-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hbhdaq/man_loses_it_over_black_lives_matter_sign_at_a/

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r/PublicFreakout - Man loses it over "Black Lives Matter" sign at a...
5,721 votes and 1,126 comments so far on Reddit
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[19-Jun-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is a 10 minute long freak out over a sign


[19-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
and he still doesn't leave, even at the end


[19-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
I like both of them recording eachother and also getting recorded by someone else


[19-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-widens-lead-over-trump-republicans-enthusiastic-but-fear-motivates-dems

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Fox News Poll: Biden widens lead over Trump; Republicans enthusiast...
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden continues to lead President Donald Trump in the race for the White House, as majorities say racism, unemployment, and coronavirus pose a major threat to the stability of the country, according to the latest Fox News Poll.
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[19-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Jun-20 02:55 AM] illumnious#7938
haha for the second part


[19-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's retarded to look at a "gap" between voters without looking at relative sizes of voters.


[19-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fear motivation is a big deal


[19-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Symbolically it sounds bad that people aren't hype for their own candidate, but fear's a much stronger driver and has a lot less "my guy's so cool, of course he'll win so I can probably skip voting really" factor


[19-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Midknight#9798
don't say that out loud; we need to hope it works against republicans this cycle


[19-Jun-20 03:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://twitter.com/keisisqrl/status/1273704793022672896

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keisi who is a ghost (@keisisqrl)
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India has tank ammunition called penetration cum blast
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[19-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I guess this must be how UK Avatar the Last Airbender fans feel hearing the word "Bender"


[19-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
So how long until there's porn of tank lolis? 2 hours?


[19-Jun-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a32870657/remove-statue-science/


[19-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/california-police-shooting-brother-robert-fuller

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California: half-brother of black man found hanged killed in police...
Terron Boone killed in shootout in Rosamond on Wednesday, after Robert Fuller’s body was discovered in a park in nearby Palmdale last week
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[19-Jun-20 05:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> 2016
no indian tank lolis im aware of


[19-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/723374254753710090/image0.jpg

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[19-Jun-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[19-Jun-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/amc-wont-require-face-masks-when-theaters-reopen-this-summer-2020-6

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"We thought it might be counterproductive if we forced mask-wearing on those people who believe strongly that it is not necessary," CEO Adam Aron said.
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[19-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
AMC are the big brains that've banned all Universal Pictures movies because they were assmad _Trolls_ went direct to online

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[19-Jun-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
May they burn.


[19-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you get off the first major pandemic since the creation of modern theater chains


[19-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And decide not to carry Universal films


[19-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In 2020, Universal will still release


[19-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Halloween movie, and The Croods


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was thinking about this the other day, think of how many concepts basically were created in the approximately one century between major pandemics


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That can't survive a pandemic


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] jlun2#8758
list please


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Movie theater chains


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buffets


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Large hotels


[19-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Resorts


[19-Jun-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jet travel


[19-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
COVID-19 is such a fucking softball pandemic and its proven the entire planet is woefully unprepared


[19-Jun-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
> Jet travel
"What do you mean you dont just hail a private jet?"


[19-Jun-20 05:40 AM] jlun2#8758
also ikr? my life didnt really change much this year w/ respect to free time use


[19-Jun-20 05:42 AM] AaronMk#4499
> COVID-19 is such a fucking softball pandemic and its proven the entire planet is woefully unprepared
@Teaspoon 

We have entirely fragile systems built to do the money thing as fast as possible without accounting for any possibility of interruption. I'm sure in a way this is true of mostly any or all infrastructure, but in the case of the US it was straight negligence combined with an intensive connectivity and everything being a house if cards.

Of course, we may not be over yet. Wave 2 or 1.5 is coming or on us right now. Since COVID got in, it gets to bounce around and we won't be able to stop it for a year or two without intense measures beyond the capacity of at least the US.


[19-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We're still in wave 1


[19-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We opened too early


[19-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wave 2 is September or so


[19-Jun-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wave 1 still hasn't crested


[19-Jun-20 05:43 AM] AaronMk#4499
That's why I said 1.5


[19-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird thing is that we used to have epidemic/pandemic awareness, or even seasonal "don't spread shit" awareness


[19-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd think they'd've called themselves the foundation _against_ child paralysis, not _for_...


[19-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What do they have to fight against if it's gone?


[19-Jun-20 06:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking 5 gees ofc 😜


[19-Jun-20 07:49 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-stares-in-silence-when-asked-why-he-keeps-hiring-wackos-and-liars

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Trump Stares in Silence When Asked Why He Keeps Hiring ‘Wackos’ and...
“Mr. President, why do you keep hiring people that you believe are wackos and liars?” Reid shouted.
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[19-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Synfag#9241
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[19-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Great


[19-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Delete gibberish after `.jpg`


[19-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or it will be super low res


[19-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[19-Jun-20 08:47 AM] byte[]#2610
how is this politics material again


[19-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
My guess is some places are calling every edgy trans joke political


[19-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The last of us 2 deserves the bashing though


[19-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Full story is way more shitty than in teasers


[19-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And there are no zombies there


[19-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still can't believe the Druckmann self insert


[19-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
~~that QC arc was so sweet~~


[19-Jun-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/503480-republicans-take-aim-at-google-amid-push-to-strip-section-230-protections

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Republicans take aim at Google in fight to remove legal shield
Google’s decision to ban a far-right website from its ad platform and issue a warning to a conservative media outlet over posts in their comments sections is adding fuel for Republicans who say tech giants have an anti-conserv
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[19-Jun-20 12:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/18/texas-schools-reopening-fall/amp/

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[19-Jun-20 01:15 PM] Macarou#9574
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Is There a Religious Left?
Why progressive activism rooted in faith is so often misconstrued.
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[19-Jun-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theundefeated.com/features/the-gut-wrenching-history-of-black-babies-and-alligators/

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The gut-wrenching history of black babies and alligators
Last week, 2-year-old Lane Graves was attacked and killed by an alligator in central Florida. We should all mourn the death of this innocent child. And empathiz…
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[19-Jun-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Jun-20 03:35 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273970542203170816?s=19

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.@FoxNews is out with another of their phony polls, done by the same group of haters that got it even more wrong in 2016. Watch what happens in November. Fox is terrible!
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[19-Jun-20 03:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Stoopid


[19-Jun-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Stupid fox! You make me look bad!


[19-Jun-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Jun-20 03:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273972301156016130?s=19

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Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene!
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[19-Jun-20 03:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[19-Jun-20 03:52 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5s3wR9peCI

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[19-Jun-20 04:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In today's episode of Brazilian centrist memes:


[19-Jun-20 04:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[19-Jun-20 04:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kim Bolsoduro


[19-Jun-20 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/17/tiktok-tunkara/

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In the World of Animals
A screenshot of the TikTok post by Petersburg blogger @youngmasha (Maria Magdalena Tunkara) that prompted an ominous visit from the prosecutor’s office Petersburg Blogger Summoned to Prosecut…
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[19-Jun-20 04:33 PM] ononim#8141
>mocks a guy who was racist to her for being half-black
>was the one who got visit from prosecutor office about "inciting ethnic hatred"
Based Glorious Anti-Imperealist Russia on the front lines against racism


[19-Jun-20 04:36 PM] illumnious#7938
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One year ago today, Cory Booker promised Black Americans that they wouldn't have to vote for segregationist-loving Joe Biden.

Cory Booker is still right!
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[19-Jun-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-twitter-trump-idUSKBN23Q0LV

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Twitter labels Trump's tweet as 'manipulated media'
Twitter Inc added a 'manipulated media' label on a video posted on U.S. President Donald Trump's Twitter feed on Thursday that showed a doctored news clip with a misspelled banner flashing "Terrified todler runs from racist baby."
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[19-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@Teaspoon goddammit, I still miss Iwata


[19-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/fox-news-lawyer-suggests-no-reasonable-viewer-would-think-tucker-carlson-is-news/

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Fox News Lawyer Suggests No Reasonable Viewer Would Think Tucker Ca...
An attorney representing Fox News reportedly made an interrogative statement in federal court that directly called into question the news value of the number one host in all of cable news.
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[19-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[19-Jun-20 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-play-trump-fiddle-kremlin-bolton-book-2020-6

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The Kremlin publicly denied that Putin can 'play Trump like a fiddl...
Former US national security adviser Bolton claimed the president was easily manipulated by other world leaders.
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[19-Jun-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kxl.com/george-washington-statue-vandalized-on-22nd-night-of-protests/

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George Washington Statue Vandalized On 22nd Night of Protests | KXL
PORTLAND, Ore. — A statue of George Washington in NE Portland was set on fire, toppled and... More »
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[19-Jun-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-washington-statue-toppled-protesters-portland-oregon/

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George Washington statue toppled by protesters in Portland, Oregon
Nation's first president was slave owner, and demonstrators for racial ljustice and police reform target his statue in Portland, Oregon.
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[19-Jun-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/politics/donald-trump-tulsa-protesters/index.html

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Trump threatens protesters ahead of Tulsa rally
President Donald Trump warned those protesting his planned rally in Oklahoma they could be treated roughly, an opening threat a day ahead of what he says is the new kickoff of his reelection campaign.
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[19-Jun-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
trump's violating the first amendment again

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[19-Jun-20 08:07 PM] RYDE#8862
What a baby.


[19-Jun-20 08:08 PM] RYDE#8862
Trump is big baby.


[19-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the mayor of tulsa has declared a state of "civil emergency" to justify locking down the area around trump's rally to pre-emptively justify beating down protesters


[19-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
the prudent response would be to get together a massive protest they can't contain, thus preventing trump from going to begin with


[19-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rally-tulsa-mayor-civil-emergency/

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Tulsa mayor declares civil emergency ahead of Trump rally
The mayor said "organized groups" are planning to travel to Tulsa, but didn't name which groups he meant.
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[19-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
> "I have received information from the Tulsa Police Department and other law enforcement agencies that shows that individuals from organized groups who have been involved in destructive and violent behavior in other States are planning to travel to the City of Tulsa for purposes of causing unrest in and around the rally," Bynum said in his order, which was posted on the police department's Facebook and Twitter pages.


[19-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
he's citing the generic "antifa is out to destroy us all" bullshit trump's been spewing


[19-Jun-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a horrific flag


[19-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/world/solar-eclipse-june-2020-trnd-scn/index.html

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The Eastern Hemisphere will see a 'ring of fire' annular eclipse th...
Stargazers in the Eastern Hemisphere will be treated to an annular solar eclipse on the heels of the summer solstice. This type of eclipse is characterized by its stunning "ring of fire."
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[19-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
that's not political


[19-Jun-20 08:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
it implies the earth is a sphere. highly political.


[19-Jun-20 08:44 PM] CrystalCat#1332
:rollingeyes_cat:


[19-Jun-20 08:45 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Cause it *is*


[19-Jun-20 08:57 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Spherical earth is an atheist liberal ***global***ist hoax made up by the Russians after the US beat them in the war on the moon.


[19-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/17/878946307/the-rich-have-stopped-spending-and-thats-tanked-the-economy

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The Rich Have Stopped Spending And That Has Tanked The Economy
While retail sales bounced back in May after a deep drop in March and April, the wealthiest Americans are not spending as freely as they did before the pandemic. And that could limit the recovery.
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[19-Jun-20 09:00 PM] jlun2#8758
> The Rich Have Stopped Spending 
TAX CUT TIME :glowing_eyes:


[19-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Marukomuru#8409
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[19-Jun-20 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
I demand a 100% tax rate over a million dollars so I can have the state fund my dream of a major cinema epic set in Gracchi era Rome where everyone will have to speak Latin.


[19-Jun-20 09:15 PM] AaronMk#4499
Everyone will have to take courses in Latin to become fluent. It will be an epic training moment, far surpassing any and all previous film training regimes


[19-Jun-20 09:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
They must be so fluent they can improv their way through a misremembered line as they would in English


[19-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato, I'm not sure where you got the impression that politics mute is used to suppress conservative ideology, it's only used when people are either being disingenuous or they're trolling and not stopping when asked to stop


[19-Jun-20 09:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
well, it partially has to do with the people that mainly receive them


[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but then again


[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
a far left server like this

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[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
there's a lot more conservative trolls for some reason, I really wish it wasn't like that tbh


[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
is bound to get some agitating trolls like that


[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it is kinda far left Pwny

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[19-Jun-20 09:23 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
:welp:


[19-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
not really, there's only 2 people active here who could be objectively classified as far left


[19-Jun-20 09:24 PM] wren#0114
unironic communism is not exactly center


[19-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
I'm left-center (social democrat)


[19-Jun-20 09:24 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
to me those are Aaron and Badger


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
no one has actually unironically argued for communism other than the aforementioned far leftists


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the ones who always call for "complete overthrow of capitalism"


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I guess 3 with badger


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
even though badger's not as far left as aaron


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I haven't met anyone else that was


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
the third isn't really active here anymore


[19-Jun-20 09:25 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I think it was Honahue


[19-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
honkahue


[19-Jun-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
:honk:


[19-Jun-20 09:26 PM] AaronMk#4499

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[19-Jun-20 09:26 PM] wren#0114
I heard the actual honk when I read that


[19-Jun-20 09:26 PM] wren#0114
lel


[19-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/503540-jimmy-kimmel-announces-summer-leave-after-blackface-controversy

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Jimmy Kimmel announces summer leave amid blackface controversy
ABC's Jimmy Kimmel on Thursday announced he will be taking the summer off after facing criticism over wearing blackface in a recurring skit he performed while working on "The Man Show" on Comedy Central.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/kimmeljimmy_08052019getty.jpg


[19-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good


[19-Jun-20 09:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
fine
lemme rephrase


[19-Jun-20 09:27 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
this is the most left leaning server I'm in that talks politics


[19-Jun-20 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
the problem with modern capitalism is that it's more similar to anarcho-capitalism (ancap) than its original form, so it's basically destroying a lot of stuff (the environment, the economy, etc), so there's an obvious reason why people don't like it


[19-Jun-20 09:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I don't dispute that it can feel like a soulless machine at times


[19-Jun-20 09:28 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
and even at times a self-destructive one at that


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I dunno, I can't really prove it, but I really think you guys just tend to be harder on and more skeptical of conservatives in general


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
even if sometimes they're kinda asking for it a bit by just saying deliberately incendiary stuff


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
that's why people criticize it and say we'd be better off without it unironically, even if the methods of achieving a world without capitalism are muddied by the authoritarian failures that the few truly socialist countries on the planet suffer from


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
like vietnam and cuba


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah tbh that's like my


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
biggest beef with it


[19-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
they're both authoritarian as fuck, but they're actual socialist countries


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
how do you prevent a large-scale communist state from just turning into a dictatorial nightmare


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
harder on conservatives because they're advocating for shitty things because it's "traditional"


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
you do it by decentralizing the government


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
Conservatives don't say more dumb shit overall (actually I think liberals do because they stray off the beaten path more)


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[19-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
But they are way more persistent about saying it's right


[19-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
and arguing against literal hard factual evidence


[19-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm sure you can see why we think this is an issue here


[19-Jun-20 09:36 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah :/


[19-Jun-20 09:37 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
it wasn't the Democratic party that started screaming "alternative facts"


[19-Jun-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
The fact that more conservatives get muted than liberals is just a byproduct of that /shrug


[19-Jun-20 09:38 PM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[19-Jun-20 09:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
honestly I can kinda buy that


[19-Jun-20 09:39 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
because it just takes a lot more for a conservative to back down, because it's kind of in the name
they want things to stay the same, and that might include their worldview


[19-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

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Revolutionary Catalonia
Revolutionary Catalonia (21 July 1936 – 1939) was the part of Catalonia (an autonomous region in northeast Spain) controlled by various anarchist, communist, and socialist trade unions, parties, and militias of the Spanish Civil War period. Although the Generalitat of Cataloni...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Bandera_CNT-FAI.svg/1200px-Bandera_CNT-FAI.svg.png


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are more conservative trolls because of the philosophy.


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trolling inherently means you need to upset people, which generally means putting them down, creating a differential of power/worth.


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk can tell you more about it, but it's one of the few times that democratic socialism has actually been done


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah he's talked a LOT about it


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservative ideology is focused around such differentials. Liberal ideology is directly against them.


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just needed to murder a bunch of people, ofc


[19-Jun-20 09:48 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
that's why I added "large-scale communist state"


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also our resident communists don't troll because communism no longer works for trolling.


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
something to the extent of like the former USSR or the modern day United States


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] wren#0114
why do you equate conservatism to putting people down, or creating differentials of power/worth?


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty much just "yeah but capitalism bad, and here's some info on it"


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
see: caste systems


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
because conservatism is about creating a social hierarchy


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
see: feudalism


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] wren#0114
I don't see it


[19-Jun-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
social hierarchies are the ultimate status quo


[19-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
been around for millennia


[19-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what feudalism is?


[19-Jun-20 09:50 PM] wren#0114
conservatives aren't dictionary-termed


[19-Jun-20 09:50 PM] wren#0114
they're people with different opinions


[19-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think feudalism is?


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And do you know how it relates to modern politics?


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] wren#0114
and I don't know any of those I know, who would support caste systems or fuedalism


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
it's only in the past century or so that the idea that you need a social hierarchy to have a functioning society has been credibly challenged, and conservatives are panicking over it


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think you know what feudalism is.


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] wren#0114
especially fuedalism, since that was associated with monarchies so much


[19-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It wasn't


[19-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism is actually directly opposed to absolute monarchism.


[19-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism was the thing where people had very local loyalties that often resulted in monarchs having little control of their own country.


[19-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
feudalism pulled power away from the monarchs and into the nobility that owned the land


[19-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kings were just an attachment that made warfare easier/harder and cemented the "national identity" that was (and is) useful for keeping people in line, content, or zealous


[19-Jun-20 09:53 PM] wren#0114
my point is you keep making blanket statements on conservatives, using terms that don't really apply to any conservatives I've met


[19-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But feuds could exist without kings or change allegiances and carry on as usual


[19-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure you're referring to the same "conservatives".


[19-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
I use the term to refer to a broad side of ideology based around social hierarchies.


[19-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is apparent in most of the people who come here to troll.


[19-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The fun thing with conservatism is if you take a lot of things we consider good or just today and jump back in time in 20-30 year steps, those things were strongly opposed by people identifying as conservatives then


[19-Jun-20 09:54 PM] wren#0114
broad definition is bad because it's inaccurate and fails when you look at what individuals believe


[19-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get people who put out images of like, IQ by country to say some countries are just worse and that this is inherent to culture rather than a product of environment etc.


[19-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well at some point you've got to be able to bundle and label people for the sake of even analyzing patterns.


[19-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you just pretend everyone's an island unto themselves, then you can't even argue about like, the "who gets muted" thing.


[19-Jun-20 09:55 PM] wren#0114
that's not what I said


[19-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Broad definitions are the only way to analyze people in bulk.


[19-Jun-20 09:56 PM] wren#0114
grouping is needed, but not as extreme as it feels here


[19-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well how do you *want* to group things?


[19-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you want to say like "capitalists", "communists" and "other"?


[19-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'm pretty sure there are a lot of pro-capitalist arguments in here but that are rather liberal.


[19-Jun-20 09:58 PM] wren#0114
I don't even know what you're asking


[19-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically I'm asking you to actually peg things down.


[19-Jun-20 09:58 PM] wren#0114
don't try to stretch everything I say to weird extremes pls


[19-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
You keep raising issue with things but it seems like you don't have a solid idea of what you're arguing for.


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] wren#0114
you're making up a point to argue about


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's asking you to be more specific


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The topic was about who comes in here to troll on things.


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are about a dozen specific instances.


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
They mainly involve people arguing for racism.


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
> this is the most left leaning server I'm in that talks politics
@IAmADeliciousPotato Ikr? every other server tends to have it's #politics go full white nazi for some reason


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
I was bundling them together in the way that made some actual sense with a general pattern.


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
oh oops. chat didnt scroll


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, all of them appear to be pro-social-hierarchy, "conservative"


[19-Jun-20 09:59 PM] wren#0114
no, I don't care about the trolling topic so much, that's being handled by discord moderation properly


[19-Jun-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Being less vague is the solution to points being "stretched"


[19-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If we're not talking about who comes in to troll, then what's the issue with using "conservative"?


[19-Jun-20 10:00 PM] wren#0114
I was talking about you lumping the term "conservatism" with extreme views, or by sweeping insults


[19-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not extreme views.


[19-Jun-20 10:00 PM] wren#0114
when that's not accurate


[19-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pro-social-hierarchy is the ground state of humanity.


[19-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is an extreme view to believe all men are created equal.


[19-Jun-20 10:01 PM] wren#0114
and we're back to the same


[19-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So it's Juneteenth


[19-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm pretty ignorant about it, wouldn't it make more sense for December 6 to be the day we celebrate slavery being ended?


[19-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems like Juneteenth is a Texas thing mostly


[19-Jun-20 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because it's not about Lincoln


[19-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've never heard of Juneteenth before this month.


[19-Jun-20 10:02 PM] wren#0114
same


[19-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've heard of it but again, knew it was just a Texas thing mostly


[19-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it's very, very Texan


[19-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Texas.


[19-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe you couldn't get a federal holiday in December because Christmas?


[19-Jun-20 10:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I do remember seeing it grow in popularity over the last couple years


[19-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again, basically prior to WWII, Thanksgiving was rarely celebrated outside of New England


[19-Jun-20 10:04 PM] jlun2#8758
TIL


[19-Jun-20 10:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there was an episode of that one show with Laurence Fischburne in it that was all about the history of Juneteenth


[19-Jun-20 10:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
trying to remember what it was called


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh yeah, he's Pops on Black-ish


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] wren#0114
I missed that ep


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] wren#0114
:sad:


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
anyway there's an episode of Black-ish about juneteenth


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought it was gonna be an educational section in Pee Wee's play house


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
has a big kinda musical theater cutaway


[19-Jun-20 10:05 PM] wren#0114
which ep?


[19-Jun-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the season 4 premiere, apparently


[19-Jun-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I caught it on a re-run one time


[19-Jun-20 10:06 PM] wren#0114
*queues hulu*


[19-Jun-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
do note, despite the episode mostly being about historical events, some significant artistic liberties are taken so I wouldn't use it as a primary source of information on the holiday


[19-Jun-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it does an awful lot in terms of awareness


[19-Jun-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
@IAmADeliciousPotato https://bigthink.com/scotty-hendricks/what-happens-when-anarchists-run-a-country-history-has-an-answer

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What happens when anarchists run a country? History has an answer.
"Anarchy" is often used as a synonym for chaos. Does the historical record match up with that?
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[19-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
has some words from george orwell about his experiences of living in revolutionary catalonia


[19-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
he also personally fought against fascists with them


[19-Jun-20 10:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah


[19-Jun-20 10:08 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I won't deny that Catalonia worked for a time


[19-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
> Servile and even ceremonial forms of speech had temporarily disappeared. Nobody said 'Señor' or 'Don' or even 'Usted'; everyone called everyone else 'Comrade' or 'Thou', and said 'Salud!' instead of 'Buenos días'. Tipping had been forbidden by law since the time of Primo de Rivera; almost my first experience was receiving a lecture from a hotel manager for trying to tip a lift-boy…… There was no unemployment, and the price of living was still extremely low; you saw very few conspicuously destitute people, and no beggars except the gypsies. Above all, there was a belief in the revolution and the future, a feeling of having suddenly emerged into an era of equality and freedom. Human beings were trying to behave as human beings and not as cogs in the capitalist machine.


[19-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
> Support for the anarchist movement was undermined by Stalinist communists hoping to draw support for their war effort, which they argued was more important than a revolution. This, combined with other factors, meant that the experiment had largely ended by the time that Franco won the war.


[19-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr stalin ruins everything


[19-Jun-20 10:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
as he tends to do


[19-Jun-20 10:11 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
with ice picks


[19-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
So, didn't Republicans *want* section 230 to begin with?


[19-Jun-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[19-Jun-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
I thought they just want whatever orange wants now


[19-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, super bipartison


[19-Jun-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
So essentially the thing with section 230 is that there were at the time two modes of operation:


[19-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
1. Site is complete anarchy, let's post loli gore.
2. Site removes a post, it is now responsible for every post ever made and must go thru them all, as it is the publisher.


[19-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Section 230 said that you're allowed to remove posts you don't like without becoming the publisher of all posts.


[19-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans now are like "well that's bad to remove our posts about how antifascists should be rounded up and gassed"


[19-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they apparently want to return to "just don't moderate anything ever, loli gore for everyone"


[19-Jun-20 10:26 PM] jlun2#8758
> loli gore for everyone
you mean only for conservatives, & "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" for everyone else? :sunskeptical:


[19-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[19-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Loli gore for everyone. Think of the children for everyone.


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The general conservative operating model is to *say* a thing is bad, but not to take any steps to reduce its existence, only going after people for saying it's good or who did it.


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] wren#0114

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[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, not political


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] wren#0114
related


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunate Girl 03


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The original is loli gore.


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] jlun2#8758
@wren be artist & animate it pls


[19-Jun-20 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, but it doesn't contribute much to the conversation


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] wren#0114
@jlun2 pay me food money pls


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyway, it appears Republicans want like


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Google to not remove harassment/pedophilia/etc.


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And instead to just hav the cops trawl YouTube comments to arrest people instead.


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden also wants to take down 230 jsyk


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those people only being the pedophiles and not the racists of course, unless they're rich.


[19-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why the hell does *Biden* want this?


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I'm pretty sure so did HRC


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
I get Republicans wanting it when it's hurting them.


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because racists online and fake news iirc


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] wren#0114
how are all the candidates such boomers


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Removing section 230 just emboldens racists.


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] jlun2#8758
youth in politics :wheeze:


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It probably sounded sensible when whoever proposed repealing section 230 presented it to them


[19-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What they all want is for platforms to be policed by the police


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's aggravating.


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police are the last people you want doing anything in the US.


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] illumnious#7938
> me into politics at the age of 20


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unless you want to kill minorities and dogs.


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They aren't if you're at the top


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious come back at 65


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they probably left out the whole thing about how deeply influenced people can be on social media by people who are *not* you


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then the police are your tools


[19-Jun-20 10:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[19-Jun-20 10:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Biden of course will weep big crocodile tears for all those dogs and people whose names he can barely remember.


[19-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
young people don't participate in politics because the old people (boomers) didn't really participate in politics and taught young people that politics is for old people, never realizing that they eventually became the old people themselves


[19-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
there's just a general stigma against young people participating in politics, boomers pull the age card constantly when they can't win an argument logically


[19-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Crow#5457
saying they're "more experienced" despite having little to no personal experience with the topic at hand, trying to use their age as a shield against any criticism


[19-Jun-20 10:34 PM] jlun2#8758
Biden:
> "You may recall the criticism I got for meeting with the leaders in Silicon Valley, when I was trying to work out an agreement dealing with them protecting intellectual property for artists in the United States of America," Biden said. "At one point, one of the little creeps sitting around that table, who was a multi—close to a billionaire—who told me he was an artist because he was able to come up with games to teach you how to kill people."
<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/01/joe-biden-is-so-mad-at-facebook-he-wants-to-revoke-sec-230-for-everyone/>


[19-Jun-20 10:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Politics is something I wasn't interest in until 2016(ish)


[19-Jun-20 10:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Also wat https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1273710515227942912?s=19

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[19-Jun-20 10:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Triggered


[19-Jun-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> saying they're "more experienced" despite having little to no personal experience with the topic at hand, trying to use their age as a shield against any criticism
too real :sadface:


[19-Jun-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Man I hope Biden just drops dead.


[19-Jun-20 10:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
He is the worst possible pakkage that could be used for sneaking in liberal reforms.


[19-Jun-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
boomers dying :wheeze:


[19-Jun-20 10:37 PM] jlun2#8758
I have non boomer family members die younger than boomers


[19-Jun-20 10:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let him win and then die


[19-Jun-20 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have more faith in the DNC trying to come up with a VP candidate that boosts Biden's appeal and accidentally would be a better president than him than I do of their ability to drum up support for a new candidate months before the election, now that they've banished all other candidates from relevancy and Biden's the official nominee


[19-Jun-20 10:42 PM] illumnious#7938
> Man I hope Biden just drops dead.
@Nebbie that's exactly what I was hoping for Donald Trump.


[19-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no, you want Trump in jail.


[19-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way his entire empire of shittiness can be more easily torn apart by his own big mouth.


[19-Jun-20 10:45 PM] illumnious#7938
That too


[19-Jun-20 10:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1274080589310824450?s=19

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[19-Jun-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fauci-nfl-expert-warns-of-dangers-coronavirus-2020-6

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[19-Jun-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-to-not-reinstate-brett-crozier-captain-fired-coronavirus-warnings-2020-6

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US Navy will not reinstate aircraft carrier captain fired after sou...
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[19-Jun-20 10:58 PM] AaronMk#4499
WO RUFT MIR


[19-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
revolutionary catalonia stuff


[19-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
`in:politics mentions:AaronMk#4499`


[19-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 will be fun no matter what


[19-Jun-20 11:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
GOP is basically a party that is imprisoned by the Trump family


[19-Jun-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They _have_ to run Jr. or Ivanka.


[19-Jun-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they pick Jordan/Gaetz/DeSantis/Hawley, they'd be fucked


[19-Jun-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apple.news/AXzBP1lzRRUqiDcS8tNz1MQ

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Louisville officer to be fired after fatal Breonna Taylor shooting ...
Louisville's mayor said the police department is initiating termination of Brett Hankison, one of three officers to fire weapons in the shooting of Breonna Taylor
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQVh6QlAxbHpSUlVxaURjUzh0TnoxTVEAMA


[19-Jun-20 11:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking even if trump loses 2020? :ponythinking:


[19-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If he loses in 2020 he'll try to run in 2024


[19-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The GOP's identity is now just "Trump"


[19-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
if he's not in jail, anyway


[19-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
probably gonna end up spending the rest of his family's money trying to stay out of prison after he leaves office


[19-Jun-20 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
there's basically a whole line-up of state charges waiting for him to leave office in new york


[19-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/politics/tulsa-mayor-curfew-trump-rally/

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Tulsa mayor rescinds curfew for parts of downtown ahead of Trump rally
The mayor of Tulsa, Oklahoma, has rescinded a curfew for the area around President Donald Trump's rally in the city that had been imposed ahead of the event.
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[19-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, I think they realized that the curfew would affect trump's supporters as much as any protesters that came

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[20-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
COVID's only getting worse


[20-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The actual second wave will be in October or so


[20-Jun-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/XSyr7HSGGQg

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[20-Jun-20 12:48 AM] green_byte#1188
Ah. Yes haven't seen him pushed in my recommended for a while


[20-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I like to watch him but I need to be in the right mood


[20-Jun-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I actually like his "unscripted" stuff better


[20-Jun-20 12:55 AM] AaronMk#4499
When LegalEagle is pushed to actually suggesting how new laws should be made from just simply discussing existing laws.


[20-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://twitter.com/peterframpton/status/1273640339455315970/photo/1

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[20-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't like posting this sort of thing (political things with a lot of text in an image) because they're really gross, but it explains one of the things I find really annoying about people who say that.


[20-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And I'm okay with that


[20-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

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Fox News Poll: Voters say yes to face masks, no to rallies
Voters gave a thumbs-up to face masks and a thumbs-down to political rallies in the latest Fox News Poll. 80 percent have a favorable view of mask-wearers, including 89 percent of Democrats, 68 percent of Republicans, and 61 percent of those who strongly approve of President T...
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[20-Jun-20 01:11 AM] AaronMk#4499
When your knee jerk reaction to a thing is to universalize the experience of an event or a people to imply there is no historical difference and experiences to avoid confronting it yourself @Raptorshy


[20-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate to say it, but


[20-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People counter "breast cancer awareness" _all the time_ with "what about prostate or testicular cancer?!"


[20-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeesh.


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and also people bitch about how movember doesn't focus on breast cancer or ovarian cancer)


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh no I totally said that to the person that posted that too


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
People do that all the time


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Other than that though its really solid


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
The obvious cynical answer is, "Because neither have as much of a well funded awareness campaign"


[20-Jun-20 01:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
Clearly all are bad, but there is only twelve months of the year and a hundred forms of cancer. If awareness is capital, someone has to figuratively pay for it.


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people are also unaware that men get breast cancer as well


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Breast cancer is one of those ones that's preventable by the layperson


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Ovarian cancer not so much


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] AaronMk#4499
We totally do be having non-developed titties.


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Bone cancer not so much


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Skin cancer definitely


[20-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not always


[20-Jun-20 01:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Skin cancer also has such a high cure rate it's as easy to get rid of as it is to get it.


[20-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There're people that get a tiny spot between their toes


[20-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And boom, it's fucking melanoma


[20-Jun-20 01:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, "easy" often means some pretty gnarly scars, but yes


[20-Jun-20 01:15 AM] AaronMk#4499
Would you take a scar or dead?


[20-Jun-20 01:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I only said that because a friend of mine recently posted immediate post-surgery pics


[20-Jun-20 01:16 AM] AaronMk#4499
My dad had skin cancer on his shoulder, so when he takes his shirt off when he goes swimming or something he has a big old white gash where the cancer was.


[20-Jun-20 01:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
But like, better to have that then to have your skin rot off and you die.


[20-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Your skin doesn't rot off


[20-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cancer goes to your brain and kills you.


[20-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The cells just metastacize and it gets to the nearest lymph node and to your liveer and pancreas and heart and nervous system and you die


[20-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cancer's a bitch


[20-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>Not always
Way more than internal cancers. Like they at least have a chance of finding it without going to a specialist.


[20-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
A lot of people don't


[20-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
But you know


[20-Jun-20 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
Anyways https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1274069957802962955?s=19

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[20-Jun-20 01:20 AM] AaronMk#4499
And remember: don't cross a picket line


[20-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This year is so cool


[20-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's totally not though


[20-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's one of those years that might be amusing to watch in the news, happening in another country


[20-Jun-20 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I will spray paint my mouth silver if it means riding out the year


[20-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz don't, that shit hella toxic


[20-Jun-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't remember if it was acracebest or someone else who actually did that onstage at bronycon one year


[20-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
did he died


[20-Jun-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no but I'm pretty sure he immediately ran offstage to get the stuff off


[20-Jun-20 01:25 AM] ononim#8141
Everyone be "haha what a quirky year" until it catches up with them and finds a way to fuck you personally


[20-Jun-20 01:25 AM] ononim#8141
smug "haha I am not doing anything nothing will happen to me or my loved ones" shit


[20-Jun-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, right now I feel like my personal life is currently under the scrutiny of one of the more petty greek gods


[20-Jun-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a lot of stuff that should just be going well is in all aspects an uphill battle - aunt dying of cancer, the whole debacle with the trailer, etc


[20-Jun-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this year is fascinating and will likely find a way to fuck me more than i already am


[20-Jun-20 01:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I actually had an umbrella *explode* in my hand yesterday


[20-Jun-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like watching a trainwreck barrel in slow motion towards your house


[20-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My grandfather got bone cancer, my sister went through corona, my parents aren't handling containment and managing my grandfather too well, my company isn't doing great, the jobs market has blown up which pretty much locks me into my career forevermore... on a personal level alone it's been a stinker


[20-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And we're not even halfway through


[20-Jun-20 01:29 AM] ononim#8141
@WingbeatPony it wasn't addressed to you, if you took it as an insult


[20-Jun-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah


[20-Jun-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just externally processing the last month or so


[20-Jun-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was already unemployed, so this has given me even less opportunities and widened the gap in my resume, my family is struggling financialy but we own the house outright so we wont lose it.  I will likely never be able to afford my own house for as long as i live, and my grandma died last summer


[20-Jun-20 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
@Teaspoon I hope it will turn out as best as it could for you and your loved ones


[20-Jun-20 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
@WingbeatPony also my condolences


[20-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It could def. be worse


[20-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But yeah, the whole "hindsight is 2020!" phrase is gonna take on a new meaning


[20-Jun-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont even have a career to be locked into, which is a stressful thought, but i;m  looking into smaller business ideas to hopefully pull my ass out of that fire


[20-Jun-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, "get tested for various types of cancer" is also on my to-do list but understandably I don't really feel like going to any sort of medical practitioner anytime soon, either


[20-Jun-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right, medical coverages i dont have.


[20-Jun-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I shoudl really look into possible clinics in my area of those exist


[20-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://spectator.us/defund-colleges-not-cops/#

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Defund colleges, not cops | Spectator USA
The colleges that survive the coming debacle will be the stronger for it. Propping them up in their hour of weakness will simply help a malignant force
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[20-Jun-20 01:41 AM] illumnious#7938
yoooo I'm fucking dying

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[20-Jun-20 01:44 AM] wren#0114
how do you set up the crayon font lmao


[20-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Chrome extension


[20-Jun-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
http://maketrumptweetseightagain.com/


[20-Jun-20 01:45 AM] wren#0114
the name

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[20-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes! there;s a firefox version!


[20-Jun-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/18/matt-gaetz-and-the-until-now-unknown-adopted-son-from-cuba/

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Matt Gaetz and the until-now unknown adopted son from Cuba - Roll Call
Rep. Matt Gaetz has dislosed he has an adopted son, a previously unknown fact he kept concealed from those asking him related biographical questions.
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[20-Jun-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
> Sounds like a totally normal, totally cool relationship. Man has unrelated boy living with him, not a foster child, not an adopted child, just a boy living with him. Also, he kept it a secret. No red flags here.


[20-Jun-20 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
> Geatz did not formally adopt Nestor (and he declines to discuss Nestor’s relationship with his biological family now). He re-frames the matter, saying, “Our relationship as a family is defined by our love for each other, not by any paperwork.”

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[20-Jun-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Something something pizzagate


[20-Jun-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
Something something psychological projection


[20-Jun-20 01:53 AM] wren#0114
but is there an opera version


[20-Jun-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apnews.com/230d0b51f9f27dc072b454a81bf0874a?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

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[20-Jun-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
> but is there an opera version
@wren really


[20-Jun-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
there's also a Florida man edition


[20-Jun-20 01:55 AM] wren#0114
yes really


[20-Jun-20 01:55 AM] wren#0114

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[20-Jun-20 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
floridaman

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[20-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujw_KJzTF8k

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A time for burning - 1966
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[20-Jun-20 01:58 AM] illumnious#7938
:TTrump:

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[20-Jun-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
Why onion why


[20-Jun-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
every time


[20-Jun-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/kOHABYhZ7a8

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The Onion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOHABYhZ7a8
Man Attempts To Assassinate Obama, 'But Not Because He's Black Or A...
Suspect Alex Croft, who has a ton of black friends, planned to kill Obama because of his socialist agenda—not because of his skin color.
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[20-Jun-20 02:03 AM] wren#0114
mr obama get down


[20-Jun-20 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the onion is collapsing the wave function!


[20-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Teaspoon I'm not saying its a good thing. I'm saying there's so much happening this year its insane. And I can't talk about it with anyone like its new because it affects the entire world and its so interesting to me.


[20-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's definitely not a good thing, its pretty messed up, and depressing.


[20-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Maybe this is how I cope with it


[20-Jun-20 02:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Did someone try kill obama?


[20-Jun-20 02:07 AM] wren#0114
no, concealed crossbow carry was illegal so he couldn't


[20-Jun-20 02:07 AM] wren#0114
:dab:


[20-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just carry a bow


[20-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Done


[20-Jun-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, the topic of presidential assassination is a thorny one to speculate on, but after seeing the current pres trying to walk down a ramp I'm now convinced that no weaponry is necessary


[20-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just pour a bit of oil on the lamp


[20-Jun-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he probably wouldn't survive a fall down the steps getting off air force one


[20-Jun-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
though he'd probably fake it with a packet of blood in his ear...


[20-Jun-20 02:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1BRJjYNzYOaGw?t=2m9s

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Official Team Trump @TeamTrump
WATCH: Triggered hosted by Donald Trump Jr and special guest President Donald Trump!
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[20-Jun-20 02:20 AM] wren#0114
I wanna see his osama bin laden commercial now


[20-Jun-20 02:27 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm waiting


[20-Jun-20 02:32 AM] illumnious#7938
favorite trump child


[20-Jun-20 02:32 AM] illumnious#7938
and that youngasswoman


[20-Jun-20 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Jun-20 02:34 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm.


[20-Jun-20 02:37 AM] illumnious#7938
> I wanna see his osama bin laden commercial now
@wren it was a disgrace\


[20-Jun-20 02:38 AM] illumnious#7938
05:36


[20-Jun-20 02:40 AM] illumnious#7938
AAAHAHAHAHA

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[20-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
looks like I was right


[20-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
trump probably wanted the curfew to begin with, but then ordered it removed once someone told him that it would affect his supporters as well as any protesters


[20-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
though it could also be that he told the tulsa mayor to do something about the protesters, and the tulsa mayor could only come up with the "civil emergency" to legally justify the curfew


[20-Jun-20 02:43 AM] wren#0114
@illumnious lmao


[20-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1273646491182260232

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Nestor turned 19 a few days ago & will be off to University. He arrived here at 12.

As you can imagine, I was triggered when (to make an absurd debate point) a fellow congressman diminished the contributions of Republicans because we don’t raise non-white kids.

Well, I have...
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[20-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
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@mattgaetz You didn't adopt him. He doesn't share your last name.  Every one of your bios say you are childless.  In the past you've passed him off as a page and a local student -- never once as a son, foster child, or any close relationship whatsoever.

Smells like kompromat...
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[20-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503518-klobuchar-withdraws-from-consideration-to-be-biden-vp-i-think-this-is-a

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Klobuchar withdraws from Biden VP contention
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) announced late Thursday night that she was removing herself from contention to be chosen as former Vice President Joe Biden's running mate, saying the slot should go to a woman of color.
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[20-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
🦀 🦀 🦀


[20-Jun-20 03:02 AM] illumnious#7938
:crabrave:


[20-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 it's fucking kamala harris


[20-Jun-20 03:03 AM] wren#0114
who


[20-Jun-20 03:03 AM] byte[]#2610
nah, no way it will be


[20-Jun-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
joe may be retarded but his campaign staff are not _that_ retarded


[20-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/18/democrats-favor-kamala-harris-for-vp-by-wide-margin-poll-finds/

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Democrats Favor Kamala Harris For VP By Wide Margin, Poll Finds
A majority said they prefer a woman of color as nationwide protests against racism  have resulted in sweeping changes.
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[20-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Never doubt how retarded the democrats can be


[20-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
kamala harris, aka the cop turned california AG who personally blocked an innocent black man from being released from prison


[20-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ultimate cuck move


[20-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even like saying "cuck" but this is like if Trump had picked Cruz


[20-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

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The Two Faces of Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris has matched every one of her progressive achievements with conservative ones.
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[20-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
she also advocated for fining and imprisoning parents of truant children


[20-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
> The Larsen case was a travesty of justice from start to finish. In 1999, when two police officers claimed they saw Larsen, who had earlier in his life been convicted for burglary, pull a six-inch-long knife from his waistband and throw it under a car, he was sentenced to twenty-seven years to life under the three-strikes law supported by Harris.
> 
> Forget for a second that the sentence was unduly harsh for the crime in question. Police had wrongly targeted Larsen for a search in the first place, and witnesses reported that it wasn’t Larsen but the man he was with who had thrown the knife. In trial, Larsen’s incompetent lawyer (who would later be disbarred) didn’t investigate a single witness, nor present one in trial.
> 
> Eleven years later, a judge reversed the conviction due to the lack of evidence and incompetence of Larson’s attorney’s. Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality.
> 
> Tens of thousands of people petitioned Harris to release Larsen, and numerous civil rights groups similarly called on her to do the right thing. But even when he was eventually released from custody after fourteen years, Harris challenged his release, and five months later Larsen was back in court, fighting to stay out of prison for a crime he didn’t commit.


[20-Jun-20 03:09 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.thaienquirer.com/13861/foreign-affairs-unrest-continues-for-a-seventh-day-in-former-british-colony/

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[20-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
> When a prosecuting attorney inserted a falsified confession into the transcript of a defendant’s confession, committing what an appeals court called “outrageous government misconduct,” Harris appealed the case, arguing that it wasn’t “outrageous” because it didn’t involve physical brutality.


[20-Jun-20 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trumps-campaign-manager-did-not-vote-for-him-over-hillary-clinton-report/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump’s campaign manager did not vote for him over Hillary Clinton:...
On Friday, CBS News reported that Brad Parscale, the 2016 Trump campaign social media director and the head of the 2020 Trump campaign, did not actually vote for Trump in 2016. “Brad Parscale, Donald Trump’s campaign manager, did not vote for President Trump in 2016. In fact, ...
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[20-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://kmox.radio.com/articles/news/petition-calls-for-st-louis-to-be-renamed-statue-removed

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Petition calls for St. Louis to be renamed, removal of statue on Ar...
A petition has been made with hopes of changing the city's name of St. Louis and taking down a statue of its namesake, Saint Louis IX, in Forest Park.
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[20-Jun-20 03:21 AM] AaronMk#4499
Rename it Saint Robespierre


[20-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Tamaroa" always was my choice


[20-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Laclede" also makes sense


[20-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Saint Obama


[20-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Rolls right off the tongue


[20-Jun-20 03:22 AM] AaronMk#4499
I'm going to take over my home town and rename it Karlmarxstadt to alienate the middle management diaspora from Detroit and force them to leave so we can take over their shit.


[20-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Laclede or Chouteau


[20-Jun-20 03:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Paneratown


[20-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(You)


[20-Jun-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
>>>/h/


[20-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one from STL calls it Panera


[20-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/YQH2xpJ

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That is one hell of a selfie.
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[20-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Jun-20 03:39 AM] jlun2#8758
> Yet two years later, Larsen was still in jail. Why? Because Harris, now a vocal opponent of mass incarceration, appealed the judge’s decision on the basis that Larsen had filed his paperwork too late — a technicality.
sounds OCD


[20-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Reagan and Bush not criminal


[20-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Too senile and too dumb to be culpable, those were the defenses


[20-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.”


[20-Jun-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
what are the odds Kamala Harris becomes VP then president due to Biden death?


[20-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By like 2022? About 70%


[20-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think Trump or Biden are gonna "survive" to 2024


[20-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, one's gonna have a stroke or heart attack or other medical issue


[20-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though if it's Trump his sycophants will just cover it up


[20-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Mr. Trump is choosing to drool while speaking and wear adult diapers as a way to give a voice to the suffering elderly population that makes up this beautiful country at every level"


[20-Jun-20 04:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
Trump strokes out and goes into a coma after the election, before results are announced and he doesn't learn he got re-elected. As a result Pence becomes the acting president because he becomes assumed dead. Then Trump wakes up and America gets its Salazar moment


[20-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
truely are approaching Empire of Man from Warhammer 40k


[20-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Trump kept on life support upon the Golden Throne


[20-Jun-20 05:36 AM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh hey that's that make trump tweets 8 again extension


[20-Jun-20 05:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I love that one


[20-Jun-20 05:38 AM] illumnious#7938
me too along with florida man extension


[20-Jun-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
and I love it


[20-Jun-20 05:40 AM] illumnious#7938
President Florida Man


[20-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nice


[20-Jun-20 05:41 AM] illumnious#7938
HOLY SHIT https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273770669214490626/video/1

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[20-Jun-20 05:41 AM] illumnious#7938
I AM FUCKING DYING


[20-Jun-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
copyright claimed for me. also right below that tweet for me:

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[20-Jun-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
ew


[20-Jun-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
ofc its a white dude saying that


[20-Jun-20 05:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
If you got guns why don't you just defend your home? Seems to me that the police are in your way of doing your heroic home defense stand fantasy. You should be defending this!


[20-Jun-20 05:51 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[20-Jun-20 05:51 AM] green_byte#1188
Seriously....


[20-Jun-20 05:51 AM] green_byte#1188
Anyway


[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yeah the thing they are doing in cali is baffeling


[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] green_byte#1188
I actually think that's a really smart idea for YouTube to disable comments.

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[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
please don't post timcast here


[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
you've been warned multiple times about this


[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] green_byte#1188
?


[20-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Crow#5457
post whatever article he's talking about


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Timcast is known to make titles that are highly inflammatory and not supported by the evidence.


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
what's wrong with timcast? also i'm sharing it in ragards to what he has to say about the cali law


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
For instance, saying Democrats are giving immigrants the right to vote by...not allowing Republicans to prevent states from granting them local-only voting.


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
lot's of youtube shows have eyecatching titles


[20-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's not unique to tim


[20-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Republicans doing that would be completely unconstitutional, literally a state's rights issue)


[20-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
anyway what's your thought on the things in tim's vid?


[20-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
wait it got deleted? why? it didn't break any rules


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The title says Democrats want [Thomas?] Jefferson statue removed in NYC.


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's misinformation.


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it talks more than just that in the vid


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is NYC's city council.


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not get to link things with deliberately incorrect titles.


[20-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Neoabolitionism is the only way to handle neo-Slave Power


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i have no control over how tim titles his vids


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav plenty control over linking them.


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that's a silly rule to have and i don't see that being enforced on other vids


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been enforced on BPS vids.


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it will continue to be enforced.


[20-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Sunnyside#3103
anyway i only shared the vid to discuss the subject matter


[20-Jun-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
An opening salvo of disinformation is not a way to discuss things.


[20-Jun-20 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
he shared quite a few things that i thought was interesting


[20-Jun-20 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it's not disinformation though


[20-Jun-20 05:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
statues are being removed. that's not in dispute


[20-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying Democrats as a whole want Thomas Jefferson's statue in NYC removed is disinformation.


[20-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's part of the video title.


[20-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I request to be allowed to again share the vid link.


[20-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[20-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the member's of the nyc council are likely registered democrates


[20-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
why not nebbie


[20-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. as they say


[20-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if that is the case, you don't say "Democrats want" when it's 3 people.


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way it is phrased is clearly meant to say all Democrats want it.


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not like Biden is calling for it.


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
anyway i'm here to discuss the video subject.


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
such as the cali law


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
(if Biden was calling for it, it would be totally fair to say Democrats want)


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funny that the Cali law wasn't in the vid title.


[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Michaeltrucker7/status/1271875598449872905?s=19

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[20-Jun-20 06:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
now you are playing semantics


[20-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nebbie i just want to share the vid.


[20-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Honahue#0656
that guy looks like a servent of Nurgle


[20-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
there's nothing wrong with it


[20-Jun-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's plenty wrong with it.


[20-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you disregarded the video just because you disagree with one word. that's unfair.
suppose he has proof in the vid that it's more than just the nyc council? you wouldn't know because you deleted the video out of hand and unfairly


[20-Jun-20 06:02 AM] illumnious#7938
the fucking bumbs in his fucking face is a red flag


[20-Jun-20 06:03 AM] illumnious#7938
and that bigass mask says Florida Man 2020


[20-Jun-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've examined the video.


[20-Jun-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has no such proof.


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how?


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop linking things you didn't fukking watch to disinform.


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i watched the whole thing


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you *know* he disinforms.


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
before sharing it


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then what are you talking about with his proof?


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
okay. explain what was disinformative about the video


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What article is he referring to?


[20-Jun-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm muting you.


[20-Jun-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not arguing in fukking circles after I already explain wth the problem is.


[20-Jun-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
As to the cali law, apparently Cali wants to remove a part of its state constitution that prohibits discrimination in either direction, so it can do affirmative action. Seems excessive.


[20-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the other thing Tim talks about in the vid that isn't in the title is some shit about how like, Cuomo won't allow something like Tulsa, and that's akin to hunting down people for being in mixed-race relationships, because curfews are nazism, I guess.


[20-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tim of course says "stragglers may face arrest" about Tulsa, then turns around that stupidity to being the fault of Democrats.


[20-Jun-20 06:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/Hats4Batz/status/1274181776957718529?s=20

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The police stood down https://t.co/hpBwMiQXVL
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[20-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/inversedaniel/status/1273952428904157184?s=21

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right, that's it. today we go to war with a 17 year old
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[20-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's from January.


[20-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the world was a simpler place.


[20-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare the father of a child hav opinions etc., get your pitchforks!


[20-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
@green_byte the reason that the statues are contentious btw is some of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, *especially* Thomas Jefferson.


[20-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
George Washington is a really bad target for this...the guy in his later years started to realize it was bad and freed all his slaves in his will as a result.


[20-Jun-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically at the time, being an abolitionist was considered radical.


[20-Jun-20 06:18 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm...


[20-Jun-20 06:18 AM] green_byte#1188
Everything is starting to get stupid


[20-Jun-20 06:18 AM] green_byte#1188
And on a side note


[20-Jun-20 06:18 AM] green_byte#1188
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/503624-protesters-gather-at-mcconnells-kentucky-home-no-justice-no-sleep

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Protesters gather at McConnell's Kentucky home: 'No justice, no sleep'
Protesters descended on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) Kentucky home to demonstrate on an array of issues to commemorate Juneteenth.
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[20-Jun-20 06:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking Yes, because I like video games & ponies, I'll destroy society

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[20-Jun-20 06:19 AM] jlun2#8758
> this generation's men
I'm a male myself & i fucking hate doing things irl


[20-Jun-20 06:19 AM] jlun2#8758
my sister is more proactive than me


[20-Jun-20 06:19 AM] jlun2#8758
i get tired waking up & going to bathroom


[20-Jun-20 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
I truly despise the male strongman stereotype


[20-Jun-20 06:19 AM] jlun2#8758
^


[20-Jun-20 06:20 AM] jlun2#8758
i want to be a girly femboy :ts_cry:


[20-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of the problem with toppling statues is the worst ones tend to be in the deep South where people *want* to be racist.


[20-Jun-20 06:20 AM] jlun2#8758
||not trans because i want my dick still||


[20-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
So in more liberal areas, where there's just the less controversial figures, you've got more support for toppling statues of bad people, which then means you get a George Washington statue hit.


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe stop putting up statues


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] wren#0114
this


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] wren#0114
why statues in the first place


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jefferson raped Sally Hemings and didn't even free his mixed race kids when he died


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everyone has flaws


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's gotta be a damn saint for them to pass the test of time


[20-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statues look good I guess.


[20-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also nobody can agree on iconography to build statues to ideas instead of people.


[20-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
200 years from now someone will look at the statue of our 48th president and go "Ooh, cringe, they liked Animal Crossing 3 fanart on twitter, and we all know what _that_ game was really about"


[20-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Plus, America is very Great Leader Theory-centric.


[20-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My favorite statue story is how this general always rode female horses into battle, he just liked them more because more docile


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But when the statue got made halfway through people went "no, he must be on a stallion"


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, with a capitalist-democratic system, we tend to praise great *individuals* more than great *movements* or *ideas*.


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251 (pinned)
So they just put a sheath and balls on a clearly female horse

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[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow.


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] green_byte#1188
And no I'm definitely not quoteing that


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
First herm horse to be ridden into battle


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Pinned a message.


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I am


[20-Jun-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
:>


[20-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The father of the American cavalry was likely intersex.


[20-Jun-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
@Raptorshy


[20-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've talked about it before.


[20-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Polish guy who was mostly female anatomically, but with a mustache.


[20-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buchanan was almost certainly gay too


[20-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lincoln, unlikely.


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
speaking of that


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
> If Lincoln fukked his VP, maybe Reconstruction would've lasted longer.


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
what does this mean


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the idea with statues is that you can change your principles and ascribe them at will.


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lincoln's VP was horrifically evil.


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Trump.


[20-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy did everything possible once Lincoln was dead to destroy Reconstruction.


[20-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If his VP liked him, then maybe some of that would be avoided.


[20-Jun-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guy shat all over everything Lincoln accomplished.


[20-Jun-20 06:29 AM] green_byte#1188
Gay wasn't really accepted then.


[20-Jun-20 06:29 AM] green_byte#1188
Well.


[20-Jun-20 06:29 AM] green_byte#1188
Not as much as it is now


[20-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the idea with statues goes like this:
1. Build statue to person everyone remembers as accomplishing things.
2. Leave out details about what they did, hide the bad shit where only historians find it.
3. Hire other historians to write a bunch of shit that's basically lies.
4. Keep updating this as society changes, so you can say that the person would agree to what you are doing.


[20-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
By constantly saying "our founding fathers wouldn't agree to this" in regards to social progress, while obscuring actual evidence on what they believed, you can justify anything. This was Scalia's main goal on SCOTUS.


[20-Jun-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It allows you to ignore evidence that the founders would've been considered evil by today's standards (which could discredit reasons based on them to preserve institutions), but *also* evidence that they had good ideas that are being implemented today that you don't like.


[20-Jun-20 06:33 AM] wren#0114
I'd rather face the actual history than be sold lies


[20-Jun-20 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
who cares what a bunch of drunk slave owning libertarians want, they didn't want anyone but white property owners to vote


[20-Jun-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
*white male


[20-Jun-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Women _could_ still inherit property


[20-Jun-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Statues are neither actual history nor lies.


[20-Jun-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are rallying points usually used to sell lies, with as little actual history as possible.


[20-Jun-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why arguments about "erasing history" are complete bullshit with statue removal.


[20-Jun-20 06:37 AM] wren#0114
tbh


[20-Jun-20 06:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Futa horse uwu


[20-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, I suppose technically statues can be lies, like the horse thing, but it's usually something like Abe not telling a lie etc. that's just a dumb meme myth.


[20-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The important lies are stuff like that America didn't predicate its innovation off of stealing inventions from Europe.


[20-Jun-20 06:40 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[20-Jun-20 06:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[20-Jun-20 07:20 AM] byte[]#2610
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[20-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What is Montana doing


[20-Jun-20 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody lives there


[20-Jun-20 07:21 AM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[20-Jun-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No clinics


[20-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
More people don't live in Wyoming though


[20-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro Antarctica has no depression


[20-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Abso-fucking-lately no one lives there


[20-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Actually it is depressed by ice.


[20-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am 1000% sure the scientists stuck in there have depression


[20-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[20-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If i was stuck in a barely heated room


[20-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
With a shitty bed


[20-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And MREs


[20-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Close the door OR EVERYONE DIES"


[20-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
No outside communication or interaction I’d be sad


[20-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'd be set if I had to eat MREs every day


[20-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Only reason I don't already is cost


[20-Jun-20 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Might also be too many carbs considering we all don't exactly go out trekking much...


[20-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I bike a ton so I'm good


[20-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Though I obviously couldn't in Antarctica


[20-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Montana has one of the worst suicide rates.


[20-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's because the "don't talk about your feelings" thing is *so strong* that people won't even self-report.


[20-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine half a million Applejacks, but all in poverty.


[20-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically half the state.


[20-Jun-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
my heart


[20-Jun-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
why did you do that to me


[20-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is America :dab:


[20-Jun-20 07:43 AM] wren#0114
dont worry AJ I'll teach AB how to code and help raise the family out of poverty


[20-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically Gianforte's implicit promise.


[20-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He ran a tech company that would pray during meetings.


[20-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
An education in coding doesn't do shit if there are no stable jobs in it.


[20-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, Steve Bullock actually invested in things like healthcare and infrastructure and the state's actually doing alright now.


[20-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, it's possible that Montana just didn't become any more depressed from the pandemic, @Itsthinking


[20-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
While we had a lockdown here, it was basically business as usual.


[20-Jun-20 07:46 AM] jlun2#8758
> tech company
I thought they barely hire anyone in comparison to "traditional" companies


[20-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just couldn't go inside restaurants.


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's correct.


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tech companies are 100% nepotism and poaching.


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did it hit reservations?


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It barely hit anything.


[20-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite strong ties to Washington, just the virus can't quite spread in smaller communities here and not enuff people brought it in.


[20-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eastern Montana is basically a giant ghost town with arid land and wheat farms in between.


[20-Jun-20 07:48 AM] jlun2#8758
do ppl even visit there outside truckers & tourists


[20-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Western Montana is basically college towns and mountains all around them.


[20-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
People from other states were required to quarantine for 2 weeks.


[20-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that blew apart tourism but prevented massive spreading.


[20-Jun-20 07:49 AM] byte[]#2610
> He ran a tech company that would pray during meetings.


[20-Jun-20 07:49 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf? how did they retain any talent whatsoever


[20-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nepotism.


[20-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans here don't run businesses to run businesses, byte.


[20-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They run businesses to embezzle money.


[20-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who you hire into senior positions is all about who gets a piece of the pie.


[20-Jun-20 07:50 AM] byte[]#2610
well yes obviously


[20-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's very little accountability, especially if you're "innovating" or managing land.


[20-Jun-20 07:52 AM] jlun2#8758
what was the name of the "tech prayer company"? am curious what they do outside vague "Tech"


[20-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Software to figure out how best a company can interact with clients.


[20-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it says "this guy needs a bribe, that guy is gonna scam you, and these guys are gullible"


[20-Jun-20 07:53 AM] jlun2#8758
that sounds :sunskeptical:


[20-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then profits go up.


[20-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using big data to optimally milk people dry.


[20-Jun-20 07:54 AM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure it's basically "is this a white male" if yes trust if no doubt


[20-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what most machine learning leads to.


[20-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice is more efficient.


[20-Jun-20 07:55 AM] jlun2#8758
cant wait for most civil rights to be gone due to AI


[20-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the Republican plan.

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[20-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Use big data to figure out how to most efficiently blokk access to services for blakks.


[20-Jun-20 07:55 AM] jlun2#8758
given how sucessful they are, they'll win


[20-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It tends to blow up in court.


[20-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judges do not like to hear that you downloaded databases not meant for the purpose to find out how blakk people behave differently.


[20-Jun-20 07:56 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds tricky to prove?


[20-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/01/21/137783/algorithms-criminal-justice-ai/

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AI might not seem to have a huge personal impact if your most frequent brush with machine-learning algorithms is through Facebook’s news feed or Google’s search rankings. But at the Data for Black Lives conference last weekend, technologists, legal experts, and community activ...
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[20-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, SCOTUS awarded a big win with saying that gerrymandering is a problem for individual states to decide.


[20-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Risk assessment AIs exist


[20-Jun-20 07:58 AM] jlun2#8758
rip


[20-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it goes "blakk? poor? Probably will commit crimes again"


[20-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the guy who did 3 murders in a row is white and middle class so it thinks he's fine.


[20-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That article gets one thing really wrong.


[20-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AIs can be really really racist


[20-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not *just*repeating mistakes of the past.


[20-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people really do commit more crimes and do them again more.


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is that if you judge someone based on that, there's no escape.


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just make the problem worse.


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I saw we just move to Canada, they have maple syrup and bagged milk.


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I always say to people


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you pay off a debt you owe, you're not a debtor for the rest of your life


[20-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is it different when you pay a debt to society?


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody actually thinks about debts to society, Its.


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep getting this wrong.


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prisons aren't built because of some debt to make the crime's problem go away.


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont see this getting better


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’s debts to China


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we don't make them company-run because of that.


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Not to society


[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea only gets tossed around as an excuse to justify long prison sentences.


[20-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
**Prison sentences do not exist as a form of compensation**


[20-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I meant it in like, people who see it as a debt


[20-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were made long because of the belief that time spent in a cell meditating or doing menial labor improved one as a person so you could go to heaven.


[20-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that people were predestined to be evil so that they could be punished for it.


[20-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody sees it as a debt.


[20-Jun-20 08:04 AM] jlun2#8758
> so you could go to heaven.
🇺🇸


[20-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, religion played a huge factor in how prisons were designed.


[20-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way to think about it that's close to how people tend to think, @Itsthinking, is that it's a contract violation.


[20-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
A criminal violates the social contract and so can no longer be trusted to uphold it, and it must be brought up in all cases where they interact with the contract.


[20-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Social Contract Theory is where "debt to society" really comes from in the end.


[20-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is putting it in specifically in terms of a debt is a manipulation to enable forgiveness.


[20-Jun-20 08:06 AM] jlun2#8758
I dont trust religion managing anything with the word "theory" in it


[20-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course not.


[20-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Roman


[20-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
More like


[20-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Roam


[20-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
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All that’s left of Francis Scott Key here in Golden Gate Park
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[20-Jun-20 08:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf is a "cocinizeks"?


[20-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"colinizers"


[20-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They invade your land and turn it into Colin, a mild-mannered accountant.


[20-Jun-20 08:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The people that wrote that graffiti should all be curbstomped for their abhorrent... whatever's the mix of shitty calligraphy and grammar


[20-Jun-20 08:25 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[20-Jun-20 08:25 AM] green_byte#1188
Now graffiti...


[20-Jun-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Graffiti is a regular part of these events.


[20-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Spraypaint is cheap and hard to remove from the porous surfaces.


[20-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It helps leave a lasting message that can be readily applied without determining who left it.


[20-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As is a complete inability to spell basic words


[20-Jun-20 08:26 AM] green_byte#1188
As I keep saying


[20-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>lasting
that shit's gone in 24h tops


[20-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but the 24h is the only time anyone is paying attention.


[20-Jun-20 08:27 AM] green_byte#1188
It's gone way way way too far.


[20-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is to get it photographed when the event happens.


[20-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's so poorly made it makes them look like absolute fools


[20-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see that, and I think "the people that did this never passed 3rd grade"


[20-Jun-20 08:28 AM] green_byte#1188
And what does that sign say .


[20-Jun-20 08:28 AM] green_byte#1188
Actually I'll figure it out


[20-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My respect for whatever they're saying, regardless of the message, is immediately compromised


[20-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Passing 3rd grade is virtually assured for the middle class, but not the poor.


[20-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having rigid spelling rules combined with an education system full of crakks is a good way to filter people by social class.


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I would hope that among the mob they would be able to find _one_ person able to spell


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about that


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
every single sentence on there is likely from a different person.


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parallelism to reduce time.


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Parallel idiots


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Topple statue, spraypaint base, move to next statue.


[20-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's the entire idea of a mob.


[20-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's to make it harder to arrest random people for it.


[20-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The individual parts of the mob don't need to be very smart, the mob is like its own organism with a given purpose.


[20-Jun-20 08:31 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmmm.


[20-Jun-20 08:31 AM] green_byte#1188
So they want to erase all of history?


[20-Jun-20 08:31 AM] green_byte#1188
...


[20-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ffs with the history nonsense


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a statue


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You don't learn history from a statue


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] green_byte#1188
That's not my point here


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You want history, read a history book, go to the places where things happened


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to stop glorifying bad people.


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The statues are of bad people.


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
A statue glorifies.


[20-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not some ego aggrandizing hunk of granite or bronze with zero nuance


[20-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The spraypaint is a mix of anti-police sentiment and anti-colonialism sentiment.


[20-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The spraypaint is idiotic


[20-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just paint symbols or anagrams


[20-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you can't spell don't try


[20-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Given that police are a part of colonialism and not vice versa, it's more about the latter sentiment.


[20-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, they don't like white culture being put on a pedestal and stomping everything else out.


[20-Jun-20 08:34 AM] green_byte#1188
~~this is why I stay away from political stuff. I dont really understand it, and I don't care enough to~~


[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You should


[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to understand history to understand politics.


[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Politics cares about _you_

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[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] green_byte#1188
Never really interested me.


[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you aren't paying attention something will inevitably catch up to you and you won't be prepared to understand how or why


[20-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
The short of it is that colonialism was white people showing up with better technology and going "okay you all giv us your resources or we kill you. That includes your 9-year-old daughter, she's hot"


[20-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then once everyone's good and subjugated, you start setting up businesses to sell those resources bakk home.


[20-Jun-20 08:36 AM] green_byte#1188
I know how us was settled


[20-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next, you institute local government, by whites only, for whites only.


[20-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, but do you understand why this is relevant?


[20-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
(especially in the US)


[20-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I don't care about politics" is how people get surprised when suddenly their taxes go up or their student loans explode or their health insurance skyrockets or your son is drafted to fight in a war


[20-Jun-20 08:38 AM] green_byte#1188
And most of the time I don't really understand anything


[20-Jun-20 08:39 AM] green_byte#1188
I just go  by what ends up from whatever political happens and go on with my life


[20-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
imagine saying "I don't care about politics" in #politics


[20-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[20-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, the US was founded as a colony


[20-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, a lot of colonies.


[20-Jun-20 08:40 AM] green_byte#1188
I know that


[20-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know why the land was so empty?


[20-Jun-20 08:41 AM] green_byte#1188
No not really


[20-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So bakk in the day, disease was a common thing.


[20-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Life in the city was great except WOOPS EVERYONE'S SHITTING THEMSELVES TO DEATH THIS MONTH


[20-Jun-20 08:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@green_byte even if you dont care pls vote this november ty


[20-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Small Pox was among the worst ones for this.


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cities had literally negative population growth.


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were fed by small towns to stay populated at all.


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just shittons of workers would die to disease.


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] green_byte#1188
I won't really vote @jlun2


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[20-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Replaced by more rural shmukks looking for work.


[20-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, when people hit the new world, they brought with them a few things


[20-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pigs and small pox


[20-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pigs went around eating EVERY crop the natives could grow, and taking over the countryside


[20-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The small pox meanwhile took care of the people.


[20-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, there were possibly up to *100 million* people in North America before Colombus showed up.


[20-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
90% of them died by the time Europe was putting together what later became America.


[20-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when the colonizing ships came, there was little to stop them, and it was as if God himself had granted them empty land to farm!


[20-Jun-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This of course combined with the main mission already being "we're the best, spread the word of god at gunpoint if necessary" really didn't exactly mean good treatment of any natives found.


[20-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, once America was an actual country, it immediately became time to expand its territory.


[20-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida was nice and ready for tons of business, and the only problem was it was full of natives.


[20-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they were forced out at gunpoint.


[20-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was then repeated across the American west basically continuously until the late 19th century.


[20-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once a tribe was out of places to move to, the gov't would choose some shitty area that wasn't worth anything, declare it their reservation, and tell them to use it for something.


[20-Jun-20 08:47 AM] green_byte#1188
Electoral College votes are the ones that matter arnt they.@jlun2


[20-Jun-20 08:47 AM] green_byte#1188
So yeah.


[20-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and during this whole time, slaves were brought from Africa to work the farms in the South where there was a warmer climate.


[20-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they were treated as completely subhuman.


[20-Jun-20 08:48 AM] green_byte#1188
Well this history lesson was fully needed


[20-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, to justify slavery, one had to believe that slaves weren't people.


[20-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the narrative was that even if slaves count as people, they're too dumb to be capable of operating on their own, and need a benevolent master.


[20-Jun-20 08:49 AM] green_byte#1188
I was making a joke about the stupidity of what's going on.


[20-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Over time however, religion shifted a little towards "hey what if all people are people?"


[20-Jun-20 08:49 AM] green_byte#1188
And being a tad sarcastic at the same time.


[20-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This mainly took off in the North where slaves were irrelevant to the economy.


[20-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now see, the nation was founded on "all people are created equal"...


[20-Jun-20 08:50 AM] green_byte#1188
@Nebbie I didn't really need this whole lesson


[20-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you need more.


[20-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, the South was worried that if the North had too many states, then they'd just vote to eliminate slavery


[20-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They set up an idea where south of a line, any new states had to hav slavery.


[20-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But this soon fell apart with strong Northern opposition.


[20-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seeing the writing on the wall, they rebelled, and the civil war happened.


[20-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
When it ended, the North tried to fix all this shit, but the South HATED it, so the KKK soon did a bit of terrorism until the gov't decided that they'd just let the South shit all over blakk people (for the next century)


[20-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The KKK then got to work making sure their version of events where the Confederacy were the victims was in the history books, and statues of Confederates were put up all over the South.


[20-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And *that* is the big problem here.


[20-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's been 150 years.


[20-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Confederate icons are still around saying that it's okay to subjugate whole populations of people because they are different.


[20-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That colonialism is the way to go.


[20-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bakklash is because all the history taught, and all the statues up, are twisted to say that slavery wasn't that big of a deal really and that the North was bad for trying to stop it.


[20-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
We aren't in some neutral situation where the history books just say what happened and the statues are of the best people. We are in a situation where effectively until the last few decades, Confederate sympathizers were in control of what people heard about history, and their lies are still echoing around.


[20-Jun-20 08:57 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[20-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and we're still screwing over the natives too.


[20-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a SCOTUS case recently where at issue was whether a treaty with natives to put them on reservations saying they got "free use of the roads" meant that they couldn't be taxed for using the roads.


[20-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like, basic common sense, YES IT MEANS THEY CAN'T BE TAXED FOR USING THEM.


[20-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a 5-4 decision.


[20-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All 4 conservatives besides Gorsuch said that actually, that treaty doesn't mean anything.


[20-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the legacy of colonialism. The political establishment in power believes that non-whites do not count when it comes to honoring promises.


[20-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it doesn't matter much if the statues are destroyed, but their destruction sends a message. It very plainly says that this cannot continue, and that things must change.


[20-Jun-20 09:06 AM] green_byte#1188
I understand that change is needed.


[20-Jun-20 09:06 AM] green_byte#1188
But it seems pretty clear nowadays that slavery is not ok.


[20-Jun-20 09:07 AM] green_byte#1188
And blacks are treated fairly well.


[20-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what you think in your area.


[20-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what people in power think.


[20-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's also not what most older whites in the South think.


[20-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
People go to tours of old plantations and insist that slavery was actually okay because they think slaves inside the house were treated well, and that being bound to someone's every whim isn't a problem.


[20-Jun-20 09:09 AM] green_byte#1188
I've mostly  lived in Colorado most of my life.


[20-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2015/6/29/8847385/what-i-learned-from-leading-tours-about-slavery-at-a-plantation

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I used to lead tours at a plantation. You won’t believe the questio...
"Did the slaves here appreciate the care they got from their mistress?" one woman asked, pinchedly.
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[20-Jun-20 09:10 AM] green_byte#1188
And lived in Kentucky for about 2 years


[20-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The northwest outside of mormon zones is one of the more tolerant areas of the country.


[20-Jun-20 09:11 AM] green_byte#1188
?


[20-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has less racism and sexism due to being newly-settled after slavery was mostly gone.


[20-Jun-20 09:12 AM] green_byte#1188
~~mayny I should look for a map myself instead of asking you something~~


[20-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, about treatment of blakks


[20-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/health/black-men-larger-study-trnd/index.html

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Study: We think black men are larger than white men
New research suggests stereotypes may alter our perception
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170313123159-01-ferguson-protest-2015-file-super-tease.jpg


[20-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you see how it might be a problem to believe people of a certain color are physically larger and more able to hurt you?


[20-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the article kind of goes over this)


[20-Jun-20 09:14 AM] green_byte#1188
Yes I do


[20-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that is what we call "prejudice".


[20-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judging someone not on their actual qualities, but on unrelated things, before said qualities can be properly assessed.


[20-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a serious problem to hav around.


[20-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice **leads to** worse treatment.


[20-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guy does same thing as a white guy. White guy is let off with a warning, blakk guy is shot to death.


[20-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, *perceptions become true*.


[20-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People generally act differently based on how they are perceived.


[20-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you perceive someone as a criminal, and treat them like it, and you punish them when they behave differently than it, they will behave like a criminal.


[20-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this way, blakks end up being painted into a corner and made to fulfill the very stereotypes they hope to defy.


[20-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and on top of that, wealth is primarily inherited in our current societal structure, with conservatives trying very hard to **keep it that way**.


[20-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, those centuries spent being slaves didn't lead to blakks accruing wealth.


[20-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not like once civil rights laws were passed, they suddenly got wealth.


[20-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, they got access to better income, but see, the main form of wealth in America is **housing**.


[20-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And during the 60s, suburb construction was very, very race-based, with blakks being forced out of their homes to make way for new construction, or their area rezoned as industrial, and denied the good housing whites were sold.


[20-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So even tho income is near equal now, *wealth is not*.


[20-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 60s were 50 years ago.


[20-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In those 50 years, whites in the suburbs hav been gaining wealth like crazy as homes become more valuable.


[20-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that ridiculous cost of homes that's keeping young people with mom and dad? It's also perpetuating gigantic racial inequality.


[20-Jun-20 09:25 AM] green_byte#1188
So this may be a stupid question. But why are houses so pricey?


[20-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Honahue#0656
the value of property is based on speculation


[20-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Property doesn't need to be sold immediately, so it can be set to whatever price, basically.


[20-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Importantly, in the US, property can be used to effectively nullify taxes on wealth.


[20-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The IRS lets you choose your devaluation, so you just pretend your gigantic resorts are deteriorating and bam, no tax liability for them.


[20-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Honahue#0656
houses becoming an investment instead of a place you live for a long time, home renevation


[20-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Honahue#0656
open concept homes only became "a thing" cause home shows found they got more male veiwers if there are segments of people destroying walls

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[20-Jun-20 09:34 AM] green_byte#1188
Interesting.


[20-Jun-20 09:36 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't think that quite answers my question


[20-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
McMansion homes that are built for the life people imagine they'll live insted of the life they will live


[20-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there's no reason to sell it soon, there's no reason to lower prices when people aren't buying.


[20-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doubly so if you can put money into it and hide that money from taxes.


[20-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nooses-found-in-oakland-being-investigated-as-hate-crimes-mayor/2311056/

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‘Intentions Don't Matter': Oakland Mayor on Ropes Found Hanging at ...
Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf said ropes found hanging from trees Tuesday at Lake Merritt were nooses that will be investigated as a hate crime, but others argue the ropes were used as exercise equipment.
https://media.nbcbayarea.com/2019/09/LakeMerrittRope.jpg?fit=480%2C270


[20-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
```Police first learned of the ropes through a social media post that identified the ropes as nooses.

Victor Sengbe told ABC7 News the rope is part of a rigging used by him and his friends as part of a larger swing system.

He even shared a video of it in action.

"Out of the hundreds, thousands of people who walked by, no one even thought it looked anywhere close to a noose," said Sengbe. "Folks have used it for exercise, it was really a fun addition to the park that we tried to create."

Sengbe told us the small piece of rope, still up in a tree is all part of the same system.

The mayor said that does not "excuse their tortuous and terrorizing effects."
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[20-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah uh a lot of black people have been getting lynched and then being declared suicides recently


[20-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
How the fukk would that not be considered a noose?


[20-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a long rope with a tear-drop shaped looping at the end.


[20-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Honahue#0656
the specific shape of a noose is to break a neck when dropped, to lynch someone you just need a slip knot and sociopathy


[20-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
the black guy says he uses it to swing tho


[20-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[20-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
if you watch vid


[20-Jun-20 09:44 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[20-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
pretty much this

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[20-Jun-20 09:45 AM] green_byte#1188
:twinoose: =🏋️


[20-Jun-20 09:46 AM] green_byte#1188
Anyway


[20-Jun-20 09:46 AM] green_byte#1188
I think I really should sleep


[20-Jun-20 10:06 AM] green_byte#1188
And to answer your voteing thing @jlun2, it doesn't really matter to me


[20-Jun-20 10:07 AM] green_byte#1188
Ether way we will get someone who does stuff.


[20-Jun-20 10:07 AM] green_byte#1188
Do what.


[20-Jun-20 10:07 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't really know and I don't really care.


[20-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are you in this channel


[20-Jun-20 10:10 AM] green_byte#1188
I usually more rant about the unnecessaryness of the riots.


[20-Jun-20 10:11 AM] green_byte#1188
And jlun said something about voteing. But It was more flooded out by Nebbie's essay.


[20-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Honahue#0656
the riots are nessacary cause no one was taking people seriously before


[20-Jun-20 10:12 AM] green_byte#1188
There are better ways to do it.


[20-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Honahue#0656
they legit tried


[20-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Honahue#0656
for years


[20-Jun-20 10:13 AM] Honahue#0656
no one cared till they started to riot


[20-Jun-20 10:13 AM] green_byte#1188
:twihmm:


[20-Jun-20 10:15 AM] green_byte#1188
Why am I even trying to put logic with politics?
There's no logic to politics at all.


[20-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Honahue#0656
there 100% is logic in politics


[20-Jun-20 10:15 AM] green_byte#1188
No not really


[20-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Honahue#0656
yes there is


[20-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Honahue#0656
you just need to look at what peoples intrests are


[20-Jun-20 10:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"why are people rioting?"
>explanation
"i don't care"


[20-Jun-20 10:16 AM] Honahue#0656
dems tend to represent financial capital repubs manufacturing


[20-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"why do people care about politics"
>explanation
"i don't care"


[20-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"who cares about voting"
>explanation
"i don't care"


[20-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
kindly fuck off


[20-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Honahue#0656
manufacturing capital benefits when people are divided so they use wedges like race to keep the workers form unionizing


[20-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Honahue#0656
finacial capital wants a big base but the system intact so they try to make dreams achiveable to everyone but don't want armed rebellion


[20-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Honahue#0656
finacial capical tends to be the Hollywood types too which is why you get Disney making movies with largely blacks casts


[20-Jun-20 10:21 AM] green_byte#1188
Or this


[20-Jun-20 10:21 AM] green_byte#1188

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[20-Jun-20 10:21 AM] green_byte#1188

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[20-Jun-20 10:21 AM] green_byte#1188

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[20-Jun-20 10:23 AM] green_byte#1188
"Oh let's tax the rich less because they have more money. Oh and let's tax the poor more because they have less money"


[20-Jun-20 10:23 AM] green_byte#1188
There's an example of no logic.


[20-Jun-20 10:25 AM] green_byte#1188
It makes more sense to tax the rich more and the poor less.


[20-Jun-20 10:26 AM] green_byte#1188
... 
~~I think I need a break~~


[20-Jun-20 10:27 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it does make more sense but the rich have more control than the poor


[20-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Honahue#0656
look how cities bent over backward to attrack Amazon's second HQ


[20-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Honahue#0656
wasn't in the people's intrest


[20-Jun-20 10:37 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm not saying anything about power


[20-Jun-20 10:38 AM] green_byte#1188
Or control


[20-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Honahue#0656
then what are you talking about


[20-Jun-20 10:59 AM] green_byte#1188
Exactly what I said


[20-Jun-20 10:59 AM] green_byte#1188
The taxation makes no sense to me


[20-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Honahue#0656
what taxation? cause it makes perfect sense when the very rich control elections


[20-Jun-20 11:02 AM] green_byte#1188
> what taxation?


[20-Jun-20 11:02 AM] green_byte#1188
You literally just answered your question.


[20-Jun-20 11:03 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm just saying what makes more sense to me.


[20-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Synfag#9241

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[20-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing to realize is that the main reason politics exist is that human society is almost always in a state where people in power abuse and destroy everyone else.


[20-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you think that the average politician wants to do what makes the most sense to hav a good society, you really don't get it.


[20-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans right now are completely against the idea of taxing the rich.


[20-Jun-20 11:58 AM] ononim#8141
why is this in politics


[20-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Synfag#9241
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[20-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, "Ether way we will get someone who does stuff.", yeah, but one of those people will literally change the rules so that you are potentially poisoned to death by rich people seeking profit, and the other will say "maybe we should reconsider this".


[20-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/climate/epa-coal-pollution-deaths.html

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[20-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
How much money do some fat cat investors hav to make before it's worth killing 4 people every day on average?


[20-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration thinks "not a lot of money".


[20-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it would be a good idea to consider voting against him.


[20-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than just going "riots unnecessary, meh"


[20-Jun-20 12:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[20-Jun-20 01:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah don't do that.


[20-Jun-20 01:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The riots suck, peaceful protesters are good.


[20-Jun-20 01:32 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Sure, except for the fact that nobody listened to them.


[20-Jun-20 01:32 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Or they were called unamerican for peacefully protesting


[20-Jun-20 01:33 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Kneeling for the anthem? "Unamerican. Shut them down."(Seen in both NFL and US Soccer)


[20-Jun-20 01:34 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Marching in a nonviolent protest? Teargassed. Beaten. Shot. Blinded. Murdered.


[20-Jun-20 01:37 PM] CrystalCat#1332
In my own state, people have been arrested for peacefully protesting in the capitol building. What crime did they commit? "Minor trespassing" Not one charge actually stuck to any of the *forty-four* people wrongfully arrested.


[20-Jun-20 01:38 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Peaceful protests only work if those in power are willing to listen.


[20-Jun-20 01:42 PM] CrystalCat#1332
A campaign to add the words "Gender identity and sexual orientation" to Idaho's human rights act (In order to criminalize discrimination) has been shot down time and again for the last decade.


[20-Jun-20 01:43 PM] CrystalCat#1332
One state senator even said `"We have come a long way. I think this very hearing has brought us a long, long way... Do not despair. Your concerns are legitimate, very legitimate, and people in Idaho and in the Legislature have heard you and are hearing you."` just minutes after voting to keep the bill in committee that year, effectively killing it.


[20-Jun-20 01:43 PM] CrystalCat#1332
This is why we protest. This is why we riot.


[20-Jun-20 01:44 PM] CrystalCat#1332
It's the only way that they'll hear us.


[20-Jun-20 01:47 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Pandemics are real, whether or not know you someone who is sick.
Racism is real, even if you are not racist.
White privilege is real, even if you don't feel it.
Police brutality is real, even if the cop you know is kind and just.
Your world isn't *the* world. Everything is not about you.


[20-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[20-Jun-20 01:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@CrystalCat and it was wrong that some people did not listen to them.


[20-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I did however.


[20-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Doesn't change that rioting and looting is wrong.


[20-Jun-20 02:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and those things being wrong doesn't change the fact that the cops have been dicks.


[20-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[20-Jun-20 02:01 PM] CrystalCat#1332
You're missing the point here.


[20-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[20-Jun-20 02:01 PM] CrystalCat#1332
It doesn't matter how "wrong" it is.


[20-Jun-20 02:01 PM] CrystalCat#1332
It's the only way that solutions can be obtained now


[20-Jun-20 02:02 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Nobody gives them the time of day otherwise.


[20-Jun-20 02:02 PM] CrystalCat#1332
But as soon as you start destroying their property, they'll listen.


[20-Jun-20 02:03 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Besides, there's been a lot of violence that's been started *by* the pigs to make the protesters look bad


[20-Jun-20 02:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes


[20-Jun-20 02:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and that was also wrong


[20-Jun-20 02:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Being "wrong" is kind of the whole point of it


[20-Jun-20 02:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
the cops prokeing riots is wrong and people rioting is wrong.


[20-Jun-20 02:05 PM] CrystalCat#1332
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[20-Jun-20 02:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the sky's blue and the birds are singing, people are going to go on believing everything's fine. When there's a riot, people are more likely to go "why is this happening here"


[20-Jun-20 02:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even if they don't believe the answer, you've made them ask the question in the first place


[20-Jun-20 02:06 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Exactly.


[20-Jun-20 02:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's why even though it's increasingly clear that the protesters with the big ideas on solving the problem aren't the ones smashing stuff, it's ultimately better than if there were no rioters at all


[20-Jun-20 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because as Circuit mentioned, the police are *not* making that distinction and it's reflected...extremely poorly on them


[20-Jun-20 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
tbh, it was kind of amazing how quickly BLM protesters got police to treat the protesters with more equality nationwide - in that the police brutality became more indiscriminate


[20-Jun-20 02:12 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Yeah. You have journalists that were shot. Medics that were shot. Bystanders that were shot.


[20-Jun-20 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
of course, I think everyone would agree that is *not* an improvement


[20-Jun-20 02:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is why what you want is not equality, but equity. Raise up the people who have been put down. That's why people aren't saying "all lives matter," but "black lives matter"


[20-Jun-20 02:14 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Because only when black lives matter will all lives matter.


[20-Jun-20 02:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's an implicit "as much" in saying this


[20-Jun-20 02:15 PM] CrystalCat#1332
True.


[20-Jun-20 02:16 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Americans need to focus on the real issues at hand... and they fail to do so time and again.


[20-Jun-20 02:16 PM] CrystalCat#1332
(Broad statement, I know)


[20-Jun-20 02:16 PM] AaronMk#4499
The underlying causes of an I'll and the impulse to make a change don't give a shit if a method is violent or not. So long as it works. The only cricism I'll hold of it is a lack of organization to finely tune the message. As it stands it may all melt down come the election when the libs go off to vote and abandon the whole thing when they get the "right person" elected.


[20-Jun-20 02:17 PM] AaronMk#4499
The March on Washington, while peaceful was a highly organized and disciplined event


[20-Jun-20 02:18 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Just like the SCOTUS ruling... We cannot stop there. It's just one victory in an ongoing war for equality.

Okay, cool. You get one city to work toward defunding their police departments, now keep going until they all are.


[20-Jun-20 02:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for a lack of organization, I disagree. If you don't have a coordinated message, your movement falls apart (like OWS) as people try to co-opt it. But right now the protests are largely unified in their messaging. But they aren't centralized, and that's good. If there *was* an organizational structure to it, if antifa were one big coordinated effort, then that leadership could be scapegoated


[20-Jun-20 02:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the president and others who don't want things changed have tried *very hard* to find those scapegoats


[20-Jun-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
Unified in their messaging but for what? Much of the time as I have directly experienced that messaging it is a glib liberal moralism. "oh racism is bad and done by bad people we have to stop the bad people" without any further or matured critique.


[20-Jun-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
It's pure student and middle class spontaneity fetish towards individualist morality.


[20-Jun-20 02:20 PM] AaronMk#4499
And most of the time a ritualistic act of self absolvement


[20-Jun-20 02:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm referring specifically to what they're chanting and bringing up - justice for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, police reform/defunding, ending confederate symbolism


[20-Jun-20 02:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
those are actionable goals, even if the last one seems a little broad


[20-Jun-20 02:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
token gestures of appeasement won't be accepted unless they actually address those goals


[20-Jun-20 02:23 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes, but which goal? What will actually solve anything? Or is this just merely the fetish for action for progress's sake and it gives a good feeling


[20-Jun-20 02:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
If we tear down all the Confederate statues, do we actually remove the physical barriers to black Americans to partake in equal footing in American society?


[20-Jun-20 02:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, look at what's happening amongst police leadership. We're seeing results there


[20-Jun-20 02:24 PM] AaronMk#4499
Or do we just remove the idea of it and we can stop thinking about it


[20-Jun-20 02:25 PM] AaronMk#4499
We're seeing a shuffling of power in counter protest. Not a dissolution of their apparatus. And only in a couple cities.


[20-Jun-20 02:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, ideas are notoriously hard to kill, but removing things that say "this was a good idea" is a good first step


[20-Jun-20 02:26 PM] AaronMk#4499
A department going on strike a victory does not make, merely an expression of their own labor power


[20-Jun-20 02:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, I'm not talking about police unions getting pouty. I'm talking about things going from "this is a rule in our department" to "this is now state law"


[20-Jun-20 02:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or better


[20-Jun-20 02:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
> well, ideas are notoriously hard to kill, but removing things that say "this was a good idea" is a good first step
@WingbeatPony 

They are notoriously hard to kill when they are a part of the structural, economic foundation of America. There are plenty of statues to people that we don't ever think about because we forgot them. Removing the Confederate statues will not fix the historically unequality labor and to that effect won't even advance labor. Fix white feelings: yes. But not repair labor in this country, because fixing labor would hurt a lot of the middle class "white allies".


[20-Jun-20 02:31 PM] AaronMk#4499
> nah, I'm not talking about police unions getting pouty. I'm talking about things going from "this is a rule in our department" to "this is now state law"
@WingbeatPony 

If this is all just about the police too then better be ready for Blackwater to pick up private security contracts in the US or even the Pinkertons to make a violent come back. Because in the absence of the armed enforcement of capital a different and all new truncheon of the law may be born with even less civilian over sight. This is also what happens when you don't have a mature analysis and just going on the whom of feel-good mission statements.


[20-Jun-20 02:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's just it, though - the thing we're seeing more of is a push towards civilian oversight


[20-Jun-20 02:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least in the progressive areas


[20-Jun-20 02:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yes: abolish the police still. But also do so knowing at worse we'll get the same mercenaries operating on our behalf in Iraq here, or a new structure.


[20-Jun-20 02:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm acutely aware that for every place that's doing that, though, what we're also seeing is locations (like in florida) that are pushing the opposite direction


[20-Jun-20 02:33 PM] AaronMk#4499
> That's just it, though - the thing we're seeing more of is a push towards civilian oversight
@WingbeatPony 

No we're not. We're getting a bunch of disperate ideas with no unity in their effeciency. From the GOP's advice to not do choke holds and increased funding, to Biden's more body cammeras and feels training, to partial or total abolition.


[20-Jun-20 02:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Explain what you're referring to with "partial or total abolition," because so far as I'm aware no one has actually completely disbanded their force with nothing to replace it, that's just right-wing fearmongering misinterpreting the calls for "defund the police"


[20-Jun-20 02:38 PM] AaronMk#4499
Minneapolis announced in the aftermath of their protests they are "looking into the complete abolition of their police department". https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/minneapolis-police-abolish.html

Though then this may also just be liberal democratic rhetoric as they reshuffle things. To which to ask: why even bother with the campaign if you just let them reshuffle the cops around?

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[20-Jun-20 02:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
Which is why a organized character needs to exist to pressure governments towards an actual goal and not just gestures. Ex. "here is a model. Do it."


[20-Jun-20 02:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because if what you're doing is "just" firing and then rehiring all the cops, you can a) put someone in charge of hiring who won't just let past issues slide and b) start from scratch on the rules without any red tape


[20-Jun-20 02:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but things like this are rarely that simple


[20-Jun-20 02:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Instead, it's stuff like saying "do we actually need armed officers to respond to calls to get a cat out of a tree, check on grandma, direct traffic, etc." and "do we actually need to cruise around on patrols looking for crimes being committed, or do we need community outreach to try and address the root cause of the crime"


[20-Jun-20 02:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
That doesn't actually solve anything because if anything. As rules goes: cops have shown they don't give a fuck. They can have as many rules as you can throw at them and procedures and body cams and sensitivity training and they still kill. And if all the old people are going to be re-hired anyways: then what is the point?


[20-Jun-20 02:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because it's the police *leadership* that didn't care - the union, the chief, the controller, whatever


[20-Jun-20 02:45 PM] AaronMk#4499
This is again illustrating how decentralized spontaneous organization is bad because it's only reaching for the lowest hanging fruit. This is the Biden stance


[20-Jun-20 02:46 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Can we still post CCP bullshit in Discord?


[20-Jun-20 02:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
institutional problems get changed by addressing the institution. You can hire all the good cops you want but if you put them through our existing training you will either get a bad cop, or you will get a cop that doesn't follow the rules and gets fired or quits


[20-Jun-20 02:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Because it's the police *leadership* that didn't care - the union, the chief, the controller, whatever
@WingbeatPony 

This still leans on the reliance of the cult of the individual. If the people in charge are good, then everything is good, because fundamentally the structure is good.


[20-Jun-20 02:47 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
CCP is a government that isn't tolerated


[20-Jun-20 02:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, yeah, some places had rules saying police need to stop other cops from doing bad things. They didn't work because it relies on the individual cop to do the right thing, and in the case of George Floyd, it was asking the rookie cop to do the right thing to his superior who was supposed to be training him


[20-Jun-20 02:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The system wasn't built to let "good people" be in charge


[20-Jun-20 02:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because if the cop in that situation didn't follow that rule, it only fell on the cop themselves, and never escalated up the chain. The superior officer who was doing the bad thing *might* get punished, and the superior in charge of both of them almost certainly never did


[20-Jun-20 02:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why not make a police-free city?


[20-Jun-20 02:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
It's going to work if people don't really experience a lot of crime


[20-Jun-20 02:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the thinking behind the places that are shifting control of the police to the county level


[20-Jun-20 02:55 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Minneapolis is a shitty city to live in as I've heard at statistics


[20-Jun-20 02:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does America have a lot of shitty cities?


[20-Jun-20 02:57 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Why does America have a lot of shitty cities?
@SymphonyDawn3 
Post-industrialism and the lumpenization of communities as jobs evaporate when companies leave for cheaper places to operate: the southern US, Mexico, china.


[20-Jun-20 03:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Black and brown communities in the United States have long lacked access to the higher value and better employment opportunities in traditional manufacturing and labor in the United States as part of its racial legacy. Whites have more often than not been afforded the higher paid and more valued positions on job sites which allowed them an opportunity for mobility through the class structure, or even out of the cities during post-war housing reforms that allowed them to leave the inner city.


[20-Jun-20 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There's also the fact that most attempts to make cities better are just to make them look better physically than to actually fix any of the problems. I.E: making laws against homeless people to make it look like there's no homeless problem instead of actually trying to solve the homeless problem. ect


[20-Jun-20 03:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But look at UK, has beautiful cities


[20-Jun-20 03:03 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
UK is a bit opposite of the US


[20-Jun-20 03:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, the UK famously falls into the problem Kobold mentioned


[20-Jun-20 03:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
As an effect, less mobile black communities got trapped in the cities, which were slowly being rotted out from the inside out. When the generally far wealthier whites left, they took their wealth with them. They only returned to the cities - if they cam back at all - for work and shopping. But their absence leaves behind a significant loss of tax revenue and being a shopper in a city does not make up for the economic activity that was taking place when the factories were working.


[20-Jun-20 03:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is anyone here English to confirm?


[20-Jun-20 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Most laws regarding homeless people are mainly about pretending they don't exist and pushing them to unseen corners.


[20-Jun-20 03:04 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
What would an English say about UK in comparison to US?


[20-Jun-20 03:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/homelessness-england-numbers-shelter-study-worst-city-hotspots-london-manchester-rate-rough-sleeping-a7448521.html

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England's 50 worst homelessness hotspots revealed
Government says it 'does not recognise' Shelter's figure and claims homelessness has fallen
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[20-Jun-20 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The same tends to apply to most "inconvenient" populations


[20-Jun-20 03:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, just in the term "rough sleeping" alone, it's a euphemism


[20-Jun-20 03:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
Collapsing tax revenues and falling land values drains the city of much of the rest of its economic viability, and the people left are left witha handful of very low paying jobs. Some professional careers remain out of tradition of sorts, but these are well out of reach of the black and brown communities and are dominated by professional whites or their accepted racial classes; asians.


[20-Jun-20 03:05 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Sometimes media is just saying bullshit stuff rather than experience


[20-Jun-20 03:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not just the media, that's the official term


[20-Jun-20 03:06 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
I don't like media sometimes


[20-Jun-20 03:07 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Well, that's just England, what about Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland's economy?


[20-Jun-20 03:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
At a certain point values collapse so low opportunities can return to the city. But again: lacking all resources and having entered a cycle of poverty and crime to survive, the black and brown community has nothing to do with this. Perhaps say some giant tech firm decides to move in, taking advantage of cheap real-estate, so they do. The cheap land values also mean a wave of new highly skilled economic migrants can move in and so they do. Land values spike, rents go up, people are kicking out of their homes to make way for improved accomodations for the influx of high skilled tech workers. Gentrification kicks in. Hundreds or thousands are kicked out of their homes and forced to live in squalor with extended families. The black and brown communities lose more economic possibility. Crime rises, concentrates, the professional middle class elects police commissioners who promise to do a thing about it, they patrol the communities with a iron fist that tightens as predictive policing policies say they must, as crimes are happening, and more happen as they patrol harder. The cycle of poverty and crime continues.


[20-Jun-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
My town is a good example of what's being explained, My town apparently used to be a thriving community full of well to do people with a successful main street of individual local businesses and probably a decent tax structure. When it became more profitable to dump it however, the well to do people moved on and left behind a walmart and several fast food chains, which have just decimated the population and left it with almost nothing but low paying jobs that stifle mobility and the ability to get help for themselves.


[20-Jun-20 03:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
This story also overlooks the effects of mid-century "urban renewal" and "slum clearance" made by malefactors mis-interpreting public housing law and basically killing it in practice to build urban highways.


[20-Jun-20 03:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Thank you, George Moses. Very cool.


[20-Jun-20 03:15 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Just be thankful you don't live in Asian countries


[20-Jun-20 03:16 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because living in some of them suck


[20-Jun-20 03:33 PM] green_byte#1188
@Nebbie it just doesn't make sense to me.


[20-Jun-20 03:35 PM] AaronMk#4499
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[20-Jun-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/manhattan-u-s-attorney-geoffrey-berman-who-investigated-trump-associates-n1231628

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"I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption," Berman said.
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[20-Jun-20 03:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh really?


[20-Jun-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503685-protesters-tear-down-statues-of-union-general-ulysses-s-grant-national

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Protesters tear down statues of Union general Ulysses S. Grant, nat...
Protestors in San Francisco on Friday toppled the statue of former President Ulysses S. Grant, who led the Union Army during the Civil War, in Golden Gate Park.
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[20-Jun-20 03:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
US is becoming 3rd world


[20-Jun-20 03:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
😂


[20-Jun-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/503684-trump-calls-for-arrests-in-dc-after-crowd-tears-down-statue

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President Trump late Friday called for the arrest of individuals in Washington, D.C., who took part in toppling the statue of Confederate general Albert Pike in Judiciary Square.
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[20-Jun-20 03:53 PM] green_byte#1188
Makes sense


[20-Jun-20 03:53 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Idk if US being 3rd world is debatable


[20-Jun-20 03:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Almost everything is becoming shit


[20-Jun-20 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
They are the 3rd world


[20-Jun-20 03:54 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like a functionless education


[20-Jun-20 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
That's one


[20-Jun-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
The country not being happy


[20-Jun-20 03:55 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
US is rich but has properties of a 3rd world country


[20-Jun-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Agree


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Iconoclasm with American characteristics now.


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
No more cult of the person


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there a term for US being 3rd world but rich?


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] AaronMk#4499
Just, "The richest third world nation"


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Hm


[20-Jun-20 03:56 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Because rn US isn't getting so well


[20-Jun-20 03:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
US is almost like Venezuela


[20-Jun-20 03:57 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
For rioting


[20-Jun-20 03:57 PM] illumnious#7938
ouch


[20-Jun-20 03:57 PM] illumnious#7938
Also don't forget the healthcare and living


[20-Jun-20 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/06/19/federal-judge-says-gyms-can-open-june-25-state-appeal/3225328001/

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[20-Jun-20 04:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Call Miss Rona right now to kill these motherfuckers https://twitter.com/SaintHoax/status/1274338741436416008?s=19

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[20-Jun-20 04:02 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The $1 million hospital bill from a coronavirus patient is ridiculous


[20-Jun-20 04:03 PM] illumnious#7938
And that's why America is a third world country


[20-Jun-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If you try to reason with them, the song just gets louder while they put their hands over their ears


[20-Jun-20 04:06 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Lol being alive as a business


[20-Jun-20 04:06 PM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
The healthcare system is really corrupt there


[20-Jun-20 04:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me https://twitter.com/SaintHoax/status/1274339453012770817?s=19

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[20-Jun-20 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR4YRdR-bss&t=0s

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Nathan Robinson, Woke Scolds, and the Limits of Anarchism
This Communist Study Questions video features interviews from Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (aka Capitol Hill's Occupied Protest) along with commentary on Matt Taibbi. Nathan Robinson and the Left's insanity. It also features a lesson on dialectical materialism and Ma...
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[20-Jun-20 04:11 PM] AaronMk#4499
anarchists destroyed by epic materialism


[20-Jun-20 04:12 PM] green_byte#1188
I should take a break from this channel...


[20-Jun-20 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So the Grant statue


[20-Jun-20 04:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize he was raised by abolitionists and he freed the only slave he ever owned (that he was given) when he could have sold him during a time of grinding debt right


[20-Jun-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/aviation/503344-faa-says-it-wont-make-masks-on-planes-mandatory

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FAA says it won't make masks on planes mandatory
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Wednesday said it will not make it mandatory for passengers to wear masks on planes, leaving the decision to require the protective gear up to individual airlines.
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[20-Jun-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/503083-trumps-push-for-major-infrastructure-bill-faces-gop-opposition

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Trump's push for major infrastructure bill faces GOP opposition
President Trump’s election-year push for a $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill to boost the struggling economy faces strong opposition from Senate Republicans.
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[20-Jun-20 04:28 PM] AaronMk#4499
> People realize he was raised by abolitionists and he freed the only slave he ever owned (that he was given) when he could have sold him during a time of grinding debt right
@Itsthinking 

What the tearing down of his statue proves to me is that absolutely: no one learns history from statues. They learn history from other means. Attacking his statue is - if it is by the same groups who are attacking the CSA statues - proves what was known about the Confederate Statues: no one learns history by them, they do not teach anyone anything. And lacking a proper historical education, these monuments to unlearned people get caught in the crossfire for being a "dead white man".


[20-Jun-20 04:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
History education in the US is awful.


[20-Jun-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really is


[20-Jun-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of what's learned in american schools is world war 2 because that's the one that makes us look good


[20-Jun-20 04:47 PM] AaronMk#4499
Sharing a bit of a post I did to see if I can get a dig at my conservative relatives:
> Ya'll motherfuckers probably going to start bitching about how a statue of US Grant was torn down (or not, because only confederate monuments are truly sacred I guess) so I want to get this out: statues don't teach anyone any history, they exist only to commemorate. But: what is the point of commemoration when the knowledge of the thing which they commemorate is not known? We have to receive the knowledge of the thing monumentalized in order to understand it. Therefore: a statue is not a thing which teaches history, but enforces history, in particular it reinforces a historical narrative taught to us by the same institutions that raised the statues in the first place.
> You can complain about losing history all you want but the truth was there from the beginning: none of these monuments teach history. No one receives anything from them. Work on the education itself you dullards and stop pretending a statue of Robert E Lee in Texas will have any other meaning but the meaning the community of absolutely white middle and upper middle class business owners put into it when they raised it in the height of the Civil Rights movement to put the fear of the CSA's whip into people. Because now all your heroes are being attacked in the grave and it's proving one grandiose thing: you never taught or actually learned history.
> Long live the new iconoclasm!


[20-Jun-20 04:51 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/11/17/paradox-interactive-integrates-white-wolf-cuts-disrespectful-passages-from-vampire-the-masquerade/

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[20-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Jun-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/r49t587s60651

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Cop Resigns After Tackling 11-Year-Old at School
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[20-Jun-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-judge-rules-trump-doj-effort-block-bolton-book-2020-6

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Federal judge strikes down the Trump Justice Department's last-ditc...
"Bolton has gambled with the national security of the United States," the judge wrote, but said blocking publication is not "an appropriate remedy."
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[20-Jun-20 05:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Jun-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://paydayreport.com/over-500-strikes-in-last-3-weeks-as-blm-surges-strike-wave-to-unprecedented-levels/

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Over 500 Strikes in Last 3 Weeks as BLM Strikes Surge on Juneteenth
Greetings from the Burgh, where Payday is preparing to track a massive wave of strikes on Juneteenth. Hundreds of Workplaces Likely to Go on Strike Today Longshoremen are going on strike at 29 ports across the West Coast. The UAW is planning to stop production on all assembly ...
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[20-Jun-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Struggle gang


[20-Jun-20 05:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Now make them long-term striks!


[20-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fun Fact about Grant: he was from a family of abolitionists


[20-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He married into a family of prominent slaveholders


[20-Jun-20 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was an 1850s sitcom


[20-Jun-20 06:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yea, I read his biography.


[20-Jun-20 06:01 PM] AaronMk#4499
He also hated the sight of blood but worked at his father's tannery after failing as a farmer.


[20-Jun-20 06:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
His image of being perpetually drunk however was a rumor that sprung up when he did drink for the first time, and probably the only time at a fort he was stationed at in Washington where he started so much trouble he was reprimanded for it. However that word travelled faster than he.


[20-Jun-20 06:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He wrote that biography in like five months while dying of cancer


[20-Jun-20 06:02 PM] AaronMk#4499
On his front porch, while in poverty.


[20-Jun-20 06:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Like, he was poor and cold and dying with not much left to his name because he had no retirement savings post-presidency.


[20-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He wasn't a drunk, but he was a heavy chain smoker


[20-Jun-20 06:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
Yea


[20-Jun-20 06:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Well he lost it all in a scam his son roped him into


[20-Jun-20 06:03 PM] AaronMk#4499
lmao


[20-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He had plenty post presidency, he went on a trip around the world for years


[20-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The scam ruined him


[20-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was entirely too trusting as a person, generally.


[20-Jun-20 06:05 PM] AaronMk#4499
I think people like to accuse him too of being an enemy of the Indians and had a corrupt government, but the fact of the matter is that the government was corrupt to begin with and his efforts to kill that beast was met with career obstruction. So while he was personally invested in ensuring native protection the backwards and violent beast of the Interior Secretary was beyond his control because the person who got the post was probably some congressman's friend or friend's son who had a lot of money and capital at stake in the west without a doubt.


[20-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, too trusting.


[20-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Trust and cigars were his downfalls


[20-Jun-20 06:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
One of the books on him I read did explore his awareness of the governments corruption and he was trying to fight it. But either between the trust or Democratic obstruction he couldn't get through and end the spoils system. It was only after he left office the spoils system was struck out and replaced with a more meritocratic approach under a Democratic president.


[20-Jun-20 06:07 PM] AaronMk#4499
Hot-take: if Grant was alive today he probably might have support Bernie.


[20-Jun-20 06:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guiteau was the real reason the spoils system ended


[20-Jun-20 06:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yeah


[20-Jun-20 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
Imagine being so horny you kill a president.


[20-Jun-20 06:08 PM] AaronMk#4499
This made by Guiteau gang


[20-Jun-20 06:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO the doctors are as culpable as Guiteau on that one


[20-Jun-20 06:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It wasn't a fatal wound.


[20-Jun-20 06:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He would have lived if they had just washed their damn hands


[20-Jun-20 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
Actually, Leon Czolgosz was another exquisitely horny assassin on main too. Like he was lusting hard to be a part of Emma Goldman's inner circle that he decided to up and shoot McKinley because Goldman cheered on the defeat of the bosses and the masters of capital and shit.


[20-Jun-20 06:10 PM] AaronMk#4499
turned out she meant people more like Henry Ford and the industrial barons and not the fucking president.


[20-Jun-20 06:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine the only reason for being remembered as a president being you got shot


[20-Jun-20 06:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This post made by Lincoln and JFK Gang


[20-Jun-20 06:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
To be fair Lincoln is definitely not just known for that


[20-Jun-20 06:17 PM] Raptorshy#6268
JFK almost is though


[20-Jun-20 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
JFK would still be well known even if he didn't get shot


[20-Jun-20 06:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He would have died in like 1997 and people would mention his affairs first, then Cuba


[20-Jun-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Defuse the crisis involving my missile baby :nut:


[20-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Cawl#7154
Go watch Samonella Academy's video about US presidents being shot


[20-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Cawl#7154
Or like, he's got two on two different assassionations I think


[20-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Cawl#7154
Pretty funny stuff, man's got talent


[20-Jun-20 06:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Insane, but educational


[20-Jun-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
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[20-Jun-20 07:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Time to die bitches


[20-Jun-20 07:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[20-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/jrivanob/status/1274213909344346113

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Lots of folks inexplicably defending a slave owner on Juneteenth, so just to be clear: Grant owned a slave for about a year and married into a slave owning family. If you’re defending the toppling of his statue on a day commemorating emancipation, ask yourself why.
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[20-Jun-20 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/jrivanob/status/1274384967343017985

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tearing down a statue of a slave owner is going too far
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[20-Jun-20 07:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So Grant should have refused the slave and not freed him I guess?


[20-Jun-20 07:55 PM] jlun2#8758
soemtimes I feel like flutters is a troll. not just this channel; he had the same "ask for help then when someone tries to he goes "no that doesnt make sense"" in #artistry-discussion


[20-Jun-20 07:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or 10 years old


[20-Jun-20 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/1274380680412246016

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Lol at the timeline debating in earnest if it’s bad to tear down a statue of a guy who owned *just one* other human
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[20-Jun-20 08:22 PM] jlun2#8758
> timeline
are we time travellers now


[20-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Twitter timeline


[20-Jun-20 08:23 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[20-Jun-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/t/current_events/663TV2P

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The day America was last “Great.”
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[20-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Gordon Freeman Imagine you hav 2 options: Do nothing, as your cousin is murdered, and throw a molotov cokktail into an orphanage to get people's attention to stop it.


[20-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which do you do?


[20-Jun-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
that twitter thread (on "when america was great") is a dumpsterfire


[20-Jun-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
recommended avoidance


[20-Jun-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
http://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1274368184028745728

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Trump rallygoer sans mask: “We had a friend who died from Covid, and his son was on a ventilator, he almost died. So we know it’s real, but then at the same time you don’t know what the facts are, you feel like maybe one side plays it one way and the other side plays it anoth...
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[20-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/06/19/so-far-george-floyd-protests-not-behind-surges-coronavirus/3226033001/

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Protests were as common in places with surging coronavirus cases as in others. However, new spikes are in places with a lower rate of spread so far.
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[20-Jun-20 08:51 PM] jlun2#8758
for all I know being white Boomer makes you immune to covid


[20-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That would honestly be the most depressing thing to come out of this year


[20-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just white.


[20-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being white means much better care, much better ability to skip work, etc.


[20-Jun-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
George Floyd had 3 fukking jobs.


[20-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've talked about that DS9 ep before btw.


[20-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
They go to 2024 to a "Sanctuary" in San Francisco.


[20-Jun-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, a large internment camp for the homeless.


[20-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sisko ends up having to personally take over a hostage situation holding a shotgun to the heads of gov't employees in order to send a message to the US gov't that shit needs to change, or else Earth doesn't get its act together yadda yadda.


[20-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Honahue#0656
I mean it doesn't really matter in Star Trek timeline anyway cas WW3 happens in 2026


[20-Jun-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does.


[20-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
The implication is that with the US going more authoritarian, the aftermath of WW3 is worse, and something wipes everyone out when people reach space.


[20-Jun-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
does it reach nazi level "white only"


[20-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Unclear.


[20-Jun-20 09:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/katie-hopkins-account-permanently-suspended_uk_5eece139c5b6e9623c8179bf?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2x3bFREcTFrVEg_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADtPeiajMvrnzZWDtw7yy-JiohkfzxDxV7FaOXDaDuB_gDWIvwG7SMs0qsUS959IQ8OC0rehnZAZGF6OOnA3TRwCJayLF9QcUZp0EMlJ0aP4Gjt_4ce0v9M5wy5qV5via8b17RMJt-K2_zpJX2jOn_sh3RBeZfxDDQxXMDAJZN19&guccounter=2
Since someone posted Hopkins earlier

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[20-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But do note, Sisko is blakk.


[20-Jun-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
someone needs to remind me who that is


[20-Jun-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
ah a white nationalist


[20-Jun-20 09:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
She is this genius
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[20-Jun-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
> George Floyd had 3 fukking jobs.
I'm getting flashbacks of boomer parents wondering "why does anyone need 3 jobs"


[20-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
3 fukking jobs, and he still ended up passing a counterfeit 20.


[20-Jun-20 09:03 PM] ononim#8141
Isn't she br*tish, no excuse of not knowing this if so


[20-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how broken America is right now.


[20-Jun-20 09:03 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/eRIdtMlqwNA

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[20-Jun-20 09:03 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's honestly really easy to end up with counterfeits. Lots of people have them and don't even realize it


[20-Jun-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that he likely ended up with it because of passing around cash in deals with friends, which he needed as supplemental income because his 3 jobs *weren't enuff*.


[20-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Raptorshy#6268
An old black guy came into my store 5 years back smelling of weed and had a counterfeit 50. I asked if he could stay to talk to the police and let them know where he got it from, etc. and he got arrested because it turns out he had a warrant


[20-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And yeah, he definitely got it from something related to drugs. It's really easy to slip something like that in and rip someone off


[20-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I doubt he even knew and I feel really bad


[20-Jun-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> his 3 jobs weren't enuff.
too bad for the main (eternal) voting block what you're saying doesn't match anything they've seen nor experienced

I'm not convinced boomers experienced poverty ever. I swear they could be earning $1/day & still somehow buy a house because ⬜ ♂️


[20-Jun-20 09:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is true; a lot of places you can just transfer a property title for a nominal fee, usually $1


[20-Jun-20 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/uber-exec-private-charter-city-silicon-valley-techies-2020-6%3famp
the tech bros want to make their own (mostly white male) city

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An ex-Uber exec wants to build a private, politically autonomous ci...
Ryan Rzepecki sold his electric bike company Jump to the ride-sharing company for $200 million. Now he's interested in sovereign charter cities.
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[20-Jun-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
>sovcit


[20-Jun-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
Silicon Valley 2.0 :ts_cry:


[20-Jun-20 10:04 PM] AaronMk#4499
When you want to Ayn Rand without going to Chile because the Chileans may actually just demolish your AnCap communes once they figure out how to operate and protest despite COVID


[20-Jun-20 10:07 PM] jlun2#8758
how is it these movements started by women somehow over time get dominated by (white) men


[20-Jun-20 10:09 PM] illumnious#7938

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[20-Jun-20 10:10 PM] illumnious#7938
I can't even

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[20-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whoa whoa whoa


[20-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Paying to win a randomly-selected-winner prize with no skill involved?


[20-Jun-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a lottery, that's illegal.


[20-Jun-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They hav to make it so you can enter without contributing or they're directly violating federal law.


[20-Jun-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
i fucking can't tho


[20-Jun-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1273799790350884864/video/1

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[20-Jun-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
just murder me right now


[20-Jun-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
>  that's illegal.
orange man doesnt care


[20-Jun-20 10:12 PM] illumnious#7938
florida man


[20-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You think bad things are bad?


[20-Jun-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fucking loser


[20-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I really want to know what the people who think trying to get someone fired shouldn't be allowed want


[20-Jun-20 10:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want white socialism.


[20-Jun-20 10:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want a cushy stable job while blakks suffer and die.


[20-Jun-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No I mean like


[20-Jun-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They don't want people to ever be able to talk to employers about their workers


[20-Jun-20 10:40 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
They’re trying to stop Karens 👀


[20-Jun-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's no realistic way that could stop people telling employers about bad employees


[20-Jun-20 10:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or employers firing people because of it


[20-Jun-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
> cushy stable job
automate their jobs plsss


[20-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, it's fair to call these people National Socialists


[20-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what they are. They want white socialism and a nationalist culture.


[20-Jun-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/1Qw07w8.jpg (satire)

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[20-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/trump-fires-berman-barr-says/index.html

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Trump on firing of Geoffrey Berman: 'I'm not involved'
Attorney General Bill Barr said in a letter Saturday that President Donald Trump had fired Geoffrey Berman, the powerful prosecutor atop the Manhattan US Attorney's office who has investigated Trump's allies, after Berman refused Barr's effort a day prior to oust him.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200620155445-02-geoffrey-berman-lead-image-super-tease.jpg


[20-Jun-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting


[20-Jun-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/20/881199628/protesters-fell-confederate-monument-in-d-c-provoking-trumps-fury

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Protesters Fell Confederate Monument In D.C., Provoking Trump's Fury
The statue of Confederate Gen. Albert Pike was long a unique sight in the nation's capital. But it met the same inglorious fate Friday as a host of other controversial monuments across the U.S.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/06/20/gettyimages-1221108753_wide-63c4b53ca130826019731cf63f406fa6f2e072fe.jpg?s=1400


[20-Jun-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
i really hope  republicans dont go 👌  then rebuild them
that be annoying
how likely is that?


[20-Jun-20 11:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Depends where


[20-Jun-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
also messed up sentence @ first since keys are broken  sorry


[20-Jun-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can bet your ass that if a statue to Slavewhipper McWhites gets toppled in Kentucky it'd be back up in a week


[20-Jun-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jun-20 12:08 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm guessing the statue would be replaced then by screeching whites


[21-Jun-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
immortalized karen


[21-Jun-20 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gop-senator-quotes-j-k-rowling-while-blocking-vote-lgbtq-n1231569

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GOP senator quotes J.K. Rowling while blocking vote on LGBTQ bill
Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma cited the “Harry Potter” author’s recent letter, which critics called a “transphobic manifesto."
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[21-Jun-20 12:33 AM] jlun2#8758
cant wait for JK to be more known for this than HP


[21-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/503714-dont-believe-the-polls-trumps-populist-presidency-may-carry-him-to-victory

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Don't believe the polls: Trump's populist presidency may carry him ...
Meritocracy Democratic liberals have simply lost touch with the working and middle class.
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[21-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"On the economic front, Democrats support globalization to uplift the impoverished in developing lands, favor the digital and gig economy, and advocate STEM and technology education in community college for displaced industrial sector workers."


[21-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Biden will certainly benefit from such a selection; however, studies have shown that most voters cast their ballots primarily for the presidential candidate."


[21-Jun-20 12:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
LMAO McCain would have won in 2008 if he didn't pick Palin


[21-Jun-20 12:43 AM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[21-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/385559-democrats-should-not-expect-a-blue-wave-in-mid-term-elections

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Democrats should not expect a blue wave in mid-term elections
For Democrats to break their string of bad election cycles, they must let go of their flawed and often demeaning attitude about working-class and red state voters. They need to address voters with understanding and appreciation of their concerns and values.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/partisan_gop_democrats_070714thinkstock.jpg


[21-Jun-20 12:51 AM] jlun2#8758
> They need to address voters with understanding and appreciation of their concerns and values.
so southern strategy them? ew?


[21-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the big problem with saying Dems are out of touch.


[21-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems are completely in touch with the centrist elites.


[21-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're out of touch with liberals and conservatives.


[21-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
But catering to conservatives doesn't work.


[21-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And catering to liberals is political suicide most of the time.


[21-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cities are so blue and rural areas are so red that they cancel each other out.


[21-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elections are decided by the suburbs of major metros.


[21-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has lost the suburbs.


[21-Jun-20 01:36 AM] byte[]#2610
karen karen karen


[21-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Karens decide the president, as horrifying as it is to say.


[21-Jun-20 01:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kelly2277/status/1274479043723878402?s=20

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[21-Jun-20 01:38 AM] illumnious#7938
what the fuck


[21-Jun-20 01:38 AM] illumnious#7938
what the actual fuck


[21-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do realize that there are a lot of Karens who are staunchly Democrat because "Trump is mean" or something


[21-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course Trump lost the suburbs, Karens plus the educated that live in them identify more with people in cities than rural areas


[21-Jun-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suburban people tend to find rural people uncivilized and trashy, going off my interactions with suburbanites moving into rural places


[21-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I haven't been in the states for almost a decade


[21-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But I found suburbia to be, like, agoraphobic


[21-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're in the city there are people everywhere


[21-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're in a rural area there's barely no one and you damn sure do well know the people nearby


[21-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're in a town everyone knows eachother


[21-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suburbia... it's creepy as shit


[21-Jun-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/tinycactus3/status/1274485540855799809

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[21-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You sometimes bump into people you guess you're supposed to be friendly to but know nothing about


[21-Jun-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile they move out to rural areas to "be with nature" and then continue to be as rude as possible to their neighbors, dress their yeard liek a sears catalogue, and complain to police about nature


[21-Jun-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds right


[21-Jun-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
it's like if they never seen nature irl


[21-Jun-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
& only movies


[21-Jun-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all while hiring people to walk into your yard and chop down your tree on your property because the wind blew leaves in their yard


[21-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also leaf blow snow in the winter


[21-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man if I had a yard it'd be the most overgrown thing ever


[21-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And I'd put effort into making it so


[21-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mowed lawns creep me out


[21-Jun-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mowed lawns annoy me


[21-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see a mowed lawn and I think of those old LEGO sets of houses


[21-Jun-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin, you have this scenic ass field as your yard and you just shred it to flat nothing


[21-Jun-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
nature without nature


[21-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I get that maybe you want a zone for the kids to play around and such, though


[21-Jun-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t give a fuck if dandelions are a weed, it was scenic and looked nice


[21-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But when everything just looks so artificially maintained and landscaped it looks eerie as hell


[21-Jun-20 01:49 AM] jlun2#8758
> kids to play around
do they even go outside? I thought american parents think its full of rapists out there


[21-Jun-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children play outside here all the time


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
huh


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but then again i live in the rurals


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know what suburban children are like


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
besides clean


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a little too clean


[21-Jun-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
lots of allergies then


[21-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The suburbs are basically what white America always wanted, from the moment the ships landed.


[21-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
A walled community of managed "nature" where everyone has their own identical large house.


[21-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
For whites only, and free of the hustle and bustle of cities like London.


[21-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A country estate for all whites.


[21-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, white socialism.


[21-Jun-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unmowed lawns also grow invasive herbs, which i was studying until my dad hired our neighbor to mow our lawn :hopeless:


[21-Jun-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even rural areas mow their lawns


[21-Jun-20 01:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie and they somehow screwed it up in 1 generation with current economy.  amazing


[21-Jun-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lawn mowing is mandated in many areas.


[21-Jun-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
How dare nature exist.


[21-Jun-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
How dare I try to cultivate land herbs!


[21-Jun-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of areas also outlaw rain barrels and such since it makes people less exploitable


[21-Jun-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
NC is not one of those states however, so suck it nestle


[21-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't that to stop mosquitoes


[21-Jun-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
This, i know it is for HK at least


[21-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Not exactly political, but I saw this in Trending™ and felt like sharing it https://twitter.com/AP/status/1274412102883651584

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[21-Jun-20 02:11 AM] illumnious#7938
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://twitter.com/elijahdaniel/status/1274485568139739136?s=20

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They cancelled Trump’s outdoor overflow speech and taking down the overflow stage at #TulsaTrumpRally because there isn’t even enough people to fill the inside LMFAOO https://t.co/aLPeup9Ppa
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[21-Jun-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
believing in trump makes you immune dont worry


[21-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rally started


[21-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude it's hilarious


[21-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There was an ad last week asking for "racially diverse" folk wanting work to standin a crowd


[21-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump's backdrop is literally 90% black and hispanic


[21-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Camera pans _anywhere else_ and it's all snow white


[21-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And hotdog pink


[21-Jun-20 02:27 AM] jlun2#8758
pic pls


[21-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[21-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cnn and nbc show panning shots


[21-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Full of empty seats and spaces


[21-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But ads now

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[21-Jun-20 02:28 AM] jlun2#8758
ty


[21-Jun-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so Trump, in an effort to show support for diversity, has segregated his audience through the sheer happenstance of POC only showing up to his rally because they were paid to?


[21-Jun-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and, in an effort to make himself look good on camera, put *all* of them behind him where he won't be looking unless he has to?


[21-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes.


[21-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Aw shit they even got one in a hijab

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[21-Jun-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's the USA chant


[21-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"kung flu"


[21-Jun-20 02:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally every 10 seconds is something that should end his campaign


[21-Jun-20 02:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but instead we live in a world where he's already been elected once and *impeached* once


[21-Jun-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he might as well be curled into a ball


[21-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't matter, hit sycophants and "lol liberal tears kek XD" people will vote for him no matter what


[21-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He could literally rape a baby on stage and they'd all cheer


[21-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh boy, now he's trying to excuse why he took two minutes to walk down a ramp


[21-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God his ego is so fragile


[21-Jun-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
next up he'll try and explain why he can;t hold a cup with 1 hand


[21-Jun-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I joke but...


[21-Jun-20 02:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Donald Trump would watch the scene from TLOU2 and think it was funny


[21-Jun-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent played it


[21-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
REALLSY STEEP RAMP


[21-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh god


[21-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was like a 5 degree incline my dude


[21-Jun-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It WAS COVERED IN ICE!


[21-Jun-20 02:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know why Trump thought the ramp was steep


[21-Jun-20 02:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's got those *ridiculous* heel lifts


[21-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah, yeah


[21-Jun-20 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he always looks like he's about to smooth criminal his face on the sidewalk standing on level ground


[21-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_God_ is his ego fragile


[21-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh boy, now he explains how he drinks water


[21-Jun-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I actually called it :hopeless:


[21-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I had to use two hands because I can't drink water without dripping"


[21-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOOD EXPLANATION BRO


[21-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OH MY GOD


[21-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HE DRANK WATER


[21-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
HE DRANK WATER


[21-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THE CROWD IS GOING WILD


[21-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
**HE DRANK A GLASS OF WATER THIS IS WILD**


[21-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[21-Jun-20 03:10 AM] jlun2#8758
were there any protestors there


[21-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There were like a dozen, and police were arresting anyone that wasn't moving away on command


[21-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[21-Jun-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen second league indoor handball games with bigger crowds


[21-Jun-20 03:16 AM] jlun2#8758
hey the police officers are free now


[21-Jun-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/sdny-us-attorney-geoffrey-berman-says-he-will-step-down-2020-6

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Manhattan US attorney Geoffrey Berman says he will step down after ...
Berman agreed to step aside after the Attorney General  said the deputy Manhattan US attorney, not Trump's pick, would temporarily replace Berman.
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[21-Jun-20 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would very much like to know more about strauss and carpenito


[21-Jun-20 03:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because although carpentino appeared as a footnote in every article on the topic I've seen so far, to my eyes this was a carefully orchestrated plan to install him as another of Trump's "acting" lackeys


[21-Jun-20 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the tl;dr I've found in 30 seconds of searching is that Strauss faced off against Roy Cohn and won, was part of the probe into Trump, and was on the iran-contra independent counsel


[21-Jun-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Carpenito, on the other hand, worked at the SEC, then worked for Chris Christie, then got appointed by Jeff Sessions as a US Attorney


[21-Jun-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
iow *I was right and it couldn't have been any more obvious*


[21-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/us/minnesota-police-george-floyd.html

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Protesters Demanded Police Reform. Minnesota Lawmakers Left Without...
The Democratic-led House and Republican-led Senate, which had approved competing plans, failed to compromise before a weeklong special session ended.
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[21-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
> Political leaders in Minnesota promised sweeping changes after George Floyd’s killing turned their state into a focal point for nationwide fury and grief over police killings and racism.
> 
> But those efforts collapsed early on Saturday as leaders in the Minnesota Legislature — the only one in the country where Democrats control one chamber and Republicans the other — failed to compromise on a package of law-enforcement measures before a special session ended.
> 
> Ultimately, legislators could not reach a deal that reconciled the Democrats’ calls for far-reaching changes to police oversight with Republican leaders who supported a shorter list of “common-sense police reforms” that included banning chokeholds in most situations and requiring officers to stop their colleagues from using unreasonable force.


[21-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
> Democrats said the plan passed by the Republican-led Senate consisted of tepid half-steps that were already in place in most law-enforcement agencies and did not rise to the moment’s calls for dramatic action. Republicans balked at the proposals passed by the Democrat-controlled House to restore voting rights to tens of thousands of felons and put the state’s attorney general, Keith Ellison, a Democrat, in charge of prosecuting police killings.


[21-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr republicans couldn't handle the concept of re-enfranchising tens of thousands of felons


[21-Jun-20 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and also apparently just wanted to make token gestures because they see nothing wrong with the system


[21-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
I guarantee it was the re-enfranchisement that killed any chance of it passing for the republicans


[21-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
republicans are completely and utterly against any sort of re-enfranchisement


[21-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
because the more voters there are, the more they lose


[21-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> [...] requiring officers to stop their colleagues from using unreasonable force [...]


[21-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
lmao, who defines "unreasonable force"? The officer?


[21-Jun-20 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the police union, after the fact. All force is reasonable


[21-Jun-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless you're a troublemaker goody-two-shoes cop then you better not grab that suspect's wrists while you're cuffing them


[21-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are against blakks having votes period.


[21-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will take *any* step to accomplish denial of votes to blakks that they think they can get away with.


[21-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kentucky-cuts-polling-locations-angry-mob-long-lines-georgia-election-day-disaster-confusion-a9577501.html

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Lawmakers and voting rights experts say Election Day this week will likely mirror what happening during Georgia's primaries
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[21-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
95% of polling stations removed, mail-in ballots fucked up


[21-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good old Kentucky


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every public school


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The GOP is moving to end Democracy.


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every post office


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is pretty obviously just meant to eliminate voting for all but the elite.


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every community center


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No excuses


[21-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who deny polling places should be considered unfit to ever hold public office.


[21-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't support Democracy, you don't get to control part of it.


[21-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every polling place I've been to is a bunch of bored boomers sitting around and checking IDs


[21-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not hard to have a lot of them.


[21-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well of course not.


[21-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is that the GOP is in power and voting could remove them.


[21-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they don't want blakks voting Democrat.


[21-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The most they do is put a cartridge in a machine or help people put a ballot in a machine


[21-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.governing.com/topics/politics/sl-polling-place-close-ahead-of-november-elections-black-voters.html

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This year alone, 10 counties with large black populations in Georgia closed polling spots after a white elections consultant recommended they do so to save money.


[21-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
> Counties across the country continue to eliminate polling places. Just last month, Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson, a Republican, removed 170, mostly Democratic voting precincts from Lake County — home to the state’s largest Latino and second-largest black communities.


[21-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
from september 2018


[21-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
right before the midterms


[21-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
probably worse now


[21-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking SCOTUS decision to stop the VRA


[21-Jun-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AngrierWHStaff/status/1274521419330867200?s=20

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Even the guy in the Mueller shirt is unimpressed by this lackluster performance 

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[21-Jun-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1274466720120549376

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[21-Jun-20 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1274501301745917952

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"Here's the bad part: When you do testing to that extent, you're gonna find more people, you're gonna find more cases. So I said to my people, 'slow the testing down please!'" -- Trump https://t.co/m5MOV9je70
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[21-Jun-20 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Taking a page out of Carlin's book, consider how smart the average American is and then remember that everyone stupider voted for Trump


[21-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503757-trump-suggests-legislation-that-would-jail-people-who-burn-the-flag-in

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Trump suggests legislation that would jail people who burn the flag...
President Trump suggested at his campaign rally in Tulsa, Okla., on Saturday that legislation be proposed to require a minimum sentence of a year for anyone who burns the American flag.
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[21-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Burning the flag is so flatly protected speech that I'm amazed _Texas v. Johnson_ was 5-4


[21-Jun-20 04:56 AM] wren#0114
also


[21-Jun-20 04:57 AM] wren#0114
>minimum sentencing


[21-Jun-20 04:57 AM] wren#0114
ew


[21-Jun-20 04:59 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Is there a flag that we all agree to burn?


[21-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MAP flag


[21-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazi flag


[21-Jun-20 05:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why not NK flag?


[21-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/yYYIldP

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Nothing to lose whatsoever.
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[21-Jun-20 05:01 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like if there's one country flag worth burning


[21-Jun-20 05:01 AM] jlun2#8758
> Pushing back against that notion, Mike Malone, the white election consultant hired in Randolph County, said in community meetings that the suggested closings were not racially motivated.

> white election consultant 
:squintyjack:


[21-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/white-woman-calls-the-police-a-better-band-than-the-beatles/

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White Woman Calls The Police A Better Band Than The Beatles
Local white woman Rebecca Shulz went viral today after calling The Police a better band than The Beatles in what witnesses described as a “baffling situation.”
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[21-Jun-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
QT doesn't need anymore bad press


[21-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
We need to make trash cannons


[21-Jun-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
I'm suprised the GOP hasnt just banned elections yet


[21-Jun-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're trying


[21-Jun-20 05:47 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
You know what's crazy


[21-Jun-20 05:49 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816

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[21-Jun-20 06:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@SymphonyDawn3 thats how white ppl see asians https://youtu.be/r4Alw_thNiM?t=1

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[21-Jun-20 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
I wonder if there's a chinese translation/concept of "fiat justitia ruat caelum"


[21-Jun-20 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
probably not one for east asia in general because of their reliance on their emperor being descended from the heavens to justify their power


[21-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
and afaik none of the east asian countries had an anti-divine right of kings streak in their ancient times


[21-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Crow#5457
it was all "the emperor is of the gods" up until it suddenly wasn't due to westernization


[21-Jun-20 06:21 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1274537451436994561?s=20

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Republicans are the party of LIBERTY, EQUALITY and JUSTICE for ALL. We are the Party of Abraham Lincoln and the party of LAW AND ORDER! https://t.co/H6Qnf6J3GB
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[21-Jun-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the chinese term for "divine right of kings" is "mandate of heaven"


[21-Jun-20 06:34 AM] Crow#5457
though one major difference is that the mandate of heaven allows for and approves of the overthrow of an unjust emperor, while the divine right of kings offers no recourse for a corrupt king


[21-Jun-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
divine right of kings is basically "suck it up, buttercup, your shitty king is the crotch goblin of the previous king, God's will and all that"


[21-Jun-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mandate of Heaven is "Bad emperor got overthrown because he did bad and lost the Mandate"


[21-Jun-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Divine right is "You have a bad king because your society is bad and it's God's punishment"


[21-Jun-20 06:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
> I wonder if there's a chinese translation/concept of "fiat justitia ruat caelum"
@Crow What language is this? It apparently not English


[21-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Latin


[21-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Let justice be done though the heavens fall"


[21-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Modern translation would basically be


[21-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Mandate of Heaven was also interpreted that if there's lots of disasters or something the emperor had lost it and should be replaces


[21-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Justice above all else"


[21-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I prefer "Enact justice even if it brings down the sky"


[21-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fiat is translated weird to be "let _ be done" instead of "enact".


[21-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
People don't really procraim "LET IT BE DONE" anymore in the modern day, so it sounds like "don't interfere" instead of "go out and officially do"


[21-Jun-20 06:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There's no word that actually means "justice" in ancient Chinese


[21-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Or modern chinese


[21-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I joke


[21-Jun-20 06:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There are words means righteousness(义), laws(法), reason(理)


[21-Jun-20 06:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/morethanmySLE/status/1274558097202298880?s=20

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Tom Petty's family send a cease & desist letter to Trump for unauthorized use of media. SECOND time in one week for Trump being accused of manipulating media for political gain. #TrumpRallyFail https://t.co/K4gjL50doK
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[21-Jun-20 06:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In modern Chinese "justice" is "正义", literally "correct righteousness"


[21-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Honahue#0656
what would incorrect righteousness be?"


[21-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Religion


[21-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hue


[21-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Honahue#0656
like zeolotry


[21-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Zoolotry


[21-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Raptorshy#6268
🐴


[21-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
:sombralick:


[21-Jun-20 06:53 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why does ching chong have a Chinese translation


[21-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
I think it was onomopia


[21-Jun-20 06:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I never know any Chinese word sounds like "Ching Chong"


[21-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
onomonapia


[21-Jun-20 06:54 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Even provided the symbols


[21-Jun-20 06:55 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816

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[21-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's sounds


[21-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
what kinda sounds


[21-Jun-20 06:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe "清穷"? It reads "qing qiong", as a commendatory word of "poor"


[21-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
q becomes ch in pinyin


[21-Jun-20 06:56 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Qīng Chōng


[21-Jun-20 06:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This is not a word


[21-Jun-20 06:56 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
But it made Chinese people say it


[21-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's dumb and you're dumb.


[21-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Please stop putting stuff in this channel about how technically a stereotyped syllable arrangement exists as individual words in the language stereotyped.


[21-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Half of all possible syllable arrangements exist in Chinese.


[21-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not political.


[21-Jun-20 06:59 AM] illumnious#7938
my oh my https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1274525456767815681?s=20

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[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Heck, I sometimes post non American politics


[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Silent majority wtf


[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Like CCP doing shit


[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay well that's not this.


[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] illumnious#7938
this is absolutely perfect for miss Rona


[21-Jun-20 07:00 AM] SymphonyDawn3#5816
Why isn't there a party that can stop CCP


[21-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
muted


[21-Jun-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
christ


[21-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
@AlchemistLiang Nixon used the term talking about how most Americans liked his policies.


[21-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, the Silents (named after the term) were in agreement about Nixon's horrific conservative policies, while Boomers, their children, often spoke out.


[21-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the counterpart to "vocal minority".


[21-Jun-20 07:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This term is commonly used in Chinese as well


[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But it's a derogatory term


[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is trying to say his voting base is most people, basically.


[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/DeAnna4Congress/status/1274522762502160386?s=20

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The degenerate left claimed President Trump had health issues after drinking water with 2 hands.

Today he drank with one and tossed the glass to the side! 🤣

GREATEST. PRESIDENT. EVER. https://t.co/0EAGff1Bhb
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[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
To try to get people on the fence about supporting him to join the side they think is larger.


[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] illumnious#7938
AAAAAHAHAHAHA since when bitch


[21-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump sure takes his sweet time with that.


[21-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
legit can't tell if that tweet and caption are serious or not


[21-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
god damn I hate this


[21-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it's serious.


[21-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't fall for Trump's Chewbacca defense


[21-Jun-20 07:05 AM] illumnious#7938
^


[21-Jun-20 07:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who fucking cares about the water or mean tweets ultimately


[21-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the entire idea with Trump, to constantly hav something else to talk about.


[21-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes it harder for people to decide he's bad.


[21-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all an attempt to draw away attention from Floyd and COVID


[21-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, imagine a series where the villain like, is in every episode, finding new and small ways to be evil in between larger ways


[21-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
States should still be forced closed


[21-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'd hav to be a comedy. The main thing parodies do is make you stop caring because it never ends with the bad stuff.


[21-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Trump's whole defense in a nutshell: He is his own parody, to avoid culpability.


[21-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's literally a legal defense against lying issues, too.


[21-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, he exaggerates so much on his buildings, even making up extra floors, that you can't really enforce that that info has to be correct.


[21-Jun-20 07:10 AM] illumnious#7938
it is a comedy darling


[21-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NYScanner/status/1274497187456659457

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Man executed in broad daylight while washing his car in #Brooklyn

Bloody weekend continues in #NYC 

AT LEAST 21 PEOPLE SHOT IN 24-HOUR SPAN

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[21-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[21-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-fatally-shot-brooklyn-gun-violence-soars-20200620-pp3uqtsenbf63n4aei3tw265ou-story.html

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Man shot dead in Brooklyn while washing car, latest victim in spate...
The 35-year-old victim was cleaning his car outside his home on Milford St. near Blake Ave. in East New York around 11 a.m. when the gunman came up and opened fire, police and witnesses said.
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[21-Jun-20 07:22 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/RazSimone/status/1274541843779252229

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Medics refused to help even after people in the CHOP begged. They let our bro bleed out for 30 minutes till he died. Fuck politics. Fuck your currupt system. https://t.co/PMwxU9yEzd
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[21-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, some dude in the replies is like "this is a lesson in SOCIALISM"


[21-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They realize this actually justifies the hatred of police/medics right


[21-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't people worth trusting not care that the people they're helping think that they are bad?


[21-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly, their training says they can't enter an "unsafe" area without police backup


[21-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't you have any morality?


[21-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you no decency?


[21-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To see a man dying and go "Nope, wrong politics, bye"


[21-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And live with yourself?


[21-Jun-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/eric-trump-calls-black-lives-matter-protesters-animals-at-tulsa-rally dogwhistle? More like foghorn

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[21-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457

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[21-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
feelings are COMMUNISM


[21-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Midknight#9798
@Crow 2 That wouldn't surprise me. They're employees. Their employer has liability if they get hurt on the job. All it takes is one violent individual lurking in a crowd to injure them, so their employer will have policies in place about such situations. Not following those policies will cost them their job... during a time when hiring is kind of at a stand still for everyone, much less someone that was "fired for cause" as the record would show.


[21-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Crow#5457
Crow 22: cawed if you do, cawed if you don't


[21-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Midknight#9798
Pretty much


[21-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Crow#5457
however, someone losing their job because they saved a life is incredibly bad optics


[21-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
and would likely lead to a huge outpouring of support


[21-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
not to mention very likely winning a wrongful termination lawsuit


[21-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Midknight#9798
I'm classed as enough of a first responder where I work to have similar policies. I don't do medical though, beyond basic first aid training; I just fix communications equipment. Still enough to be on FirstNet. And to know exactly how anal employers of first responders are when it comes to safety.


[21-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
whichever company that fired the EMT would be cancelled so fucking hard


[21-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Midknight#9798
Eh, hard to cancel something like that. It's not like a coffee shop you can boycott, or a sports team whose sponsers you can flood with angry letters


[21-Jun-20 07:38 AM] Midknight#9798
If you genuinely need an EMT, you take whichever one they dispatch to you. You don't ask "are you affiliated with X? If yes, gtfo, i'd rather die than be treated by you"


[21-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blind loyalty to the rules, @Itsthinking


[21-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The mayor will fire their asses if they break the rules.


[21-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the mayor is the one killing the guy.


[21-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Midknight#9798
Yep, that's where the buck would stop in this case.


[21-Jun-20 07:41 AM] jlun2#8758
> To try to get people on the fence about supporting him to join the side they think is larger.
that doesnt work for me I tried :ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Midknight#9798
And the city'll point to the written safety policy that's the same for everyone and say that if the EMT had been injured, we'd be on the hook for liability and damages/fines for allowing safety policy to be violated so we have to enforce it. And when they're sued by the family for letting the guy die, they'll point to the same policy saying it's a regrettable outcome of the circumstance but that the policy is there for the safety of EMT employees. Whether they're employed by the city directly, or by a private company under contract by the city, it'll be the same. OSHA, L&I, and other employment regulatory agencies will expect adherence.


[21-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Midknight#9798
Welcome to the glorious free market where money rules all. -_-


[21-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
People need to akknowledge that the bad shit comes because of the bad rules, not just bad individuals.


[21-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism wrote the rules.


[21-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Midknight#9798
In some cases, sure. you can't say that in this case unless you know exactly what the rule is. I expect it to turn out to be something completely generalized and mundane; it's Seattle, not Savannah


[21-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
EMTs do have to be protected of course


[21-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seattle has shown its true colors before.


[21-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Midknight#9798
*~eyeroll~*


[21-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sides with big business over people on a regular basis.


[21-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just don't want "Oh it's CHAZ, fuck em"


[21-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you're anti CHAZ, that only helps their image, not hurts it


[21-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has a ridiculous homelessness problem that it knows how to fix.


[21-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Eminent domain for public housing?


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rent control would be sufficient.


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Landlords and big companies don't want regulation tho.


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's becoming Silicon Valley 2


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are there any company dorms in Silicon Valley yet


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] jlun2#8758
> Silicon Valley 2
white tech bros go :nut:


[21-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I swear there were some


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not yet, I think.


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone employed by the companies can afford basic housing.


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] jlun2#8758
facebook is trying to make one @Itsthinking


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the people employed by restaurants etc. that are getting screwed.


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav rampant construction, tons of new housing and offices


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] jlun2#8758
"why dont you just move out" ~boomers


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
but also tons more homelessness


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What, no one wants a $14 gyro?


[21-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
People do, but the restaurants don't want to pay their employees.


[21-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It takes serious effort to get minimum wage raised.


[21-Jun-20 08:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie how do services even exist in silicon valley at that price


[21-Jun-20 08:00 AM] jlun2#8758
like, how do they house employees for stores & resturants


[21-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Midknight#9798
and don't even talk about capping executive bonus payouts. if daddy doesn't get that third yacht, it doesn't matter how many employees need food stamps


[21-Jun-20 08:00 AM] jlun2#8758
hire the homeless?


[21-Jun-20 08:01 AM] jlun2#8758
@Midknight people are complaining about yachts now, but in the future billionaires are going to pollute space with their giant flying dicks


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have you ever been to DC, @Nebbie


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nope.


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Midknight#9798
jlun2, that's already happening. we've got a car in space because a billionaire thought it'd be cool


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Midknight#9798
😛


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tons of apartments and housing and offices, still lots of homelessness


[21-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though DC is an oddity, you need a lot of apartments to support all the interns and the like


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's becoming the norm for cities.


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav more empty houses than homeless, remember.


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Midknight#9798
well, when the rest of the country ships their homeless to you, that tends to happen


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not it


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Midknight#9798
it doesn't help


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
most of the homeless in Seattle came from Seattle.


[21-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homelessness is on the rise in many cities at the same time


[21-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Policies hav consequences.


[21-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Midknight#9798
and as far as "hire the homeless" goes, a fair number of them aren't hireable. Yeah, there were some nasty, nasty sanitariums in the old days, and lots of horrific abuses. But that was a cause for reform and oversight, not dumping mentally ill folks on the street.


[21-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Crow#5457
46% of homeless in the US have jobs


[21-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The vast majority of homeless people aren't mentally ill compared to the normal population.


[21-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are hirable in terms of ability.


[21-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Midknight#9798
I didn't say the vast majority. I said a fair number. And I'll stand by that from personal observation.


[21-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Companies do not hire them because they do not hav enuff work experience or stable transportation.


[21-Jun-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't fukking matter.


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://parade.com/643064/beckyhughes/working-homeless-population-grows-in-cities-across-the-u-s/

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Working Homeless Population Grows in Cities Across the U.S.
With housing prices continuing to climb in many larger cities across the U.S., having a full-time job no longer guarantees that workers can afford to live in the city where they’re employed.According to the National Low Income Housing Coalition, renters need to earn a wage of ...
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[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The like 4% are not a reason to throw out all the others.


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Crow#5457
from 2018, it's worse now


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Midknight#9798
Again with the straw men. I didn't say that either.


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
On a fundamental level, our system treats people without a home as subhuman.


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then define your fukking "fair number" or get out.


[21-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Midknight#9798
Gonna mute me again because I dare to stand up for myself?


[21-Jun-20 08:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Society has failed homeless people, but those who are homeless because they are mentally ill have been failed in a different way than those who are homeless because of poverty


[21-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
don't make generalizations you can't back up if you don't want to be called out on it


[21-Jun-20 08:07 AM] byte[]#2610
And they need to receive different care


[21-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to talk numbers we can talk numbers. There's a lot of numbers about the homeless.


[21-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[21-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/ready-imready-excited-letsgetitstarted-disgonbegud-gif-4545679

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dis gon b gud
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[21-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The numbers generally say they aren't that special.


[21-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vague statements about how they totes are should be treated as false.


[21-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyway, the thing with Seattle is that there's a pattern where a worker loses their job, or their rent goes up, and so they don't meet the rent.


[21-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They then lose their housing either shortly before or after their job.


[21-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This leads to them becoming unemployable, as no company wants to hire someone who just is a burgerflipper and has no vehicle.


[21-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's no path *bakk* to being stable.


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum wage stems the bleeding a little.


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] jlun2#8758
are (White male)boomers never homeless or something


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Boomers own their own homes.


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well as other homes they rent to others.


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which provides stable income.


[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.geekwire.com/2018/homelessness-employment-numbers-say-jobs-economy-housing-affordability/

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Homelessness and jobs: What the numbers say
For our final story in the #SeaHomeless ‘Ask a Reporter’ project, we sought to answer this reader question: “What percentage of homeless in the greater Seattle area were actually residents with jobs, prior to becoming homeless?”
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[21-Jun-20 08:11 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 08:13 AM] jlun2#8758
> The survey results suggest that more affordable housing and services that help unsheltered people secure and sustain jobs would make a meaningful dent in the homelessness crisis.
cant wait for 50%+ homelessness with robots
while our immortal boomers hoard 99% homes


[21-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
I guess the threat of having actual numbers destroy the intentional obfuscation of "fuck all the homeless because a few of them are mentally ill" scared them off


[21-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/02/seattle-passed-a-15-minimum-wage-law-in-2014-heres-how-its-turned-out-so-far.html

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Seattle passed a $15 minimum wage law in 2014. Here's how it's turn...
Seattle's law is now at the forefront of a national debate over the impacts of progressive wage increases.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106318413-1577983792230preview.jpg?v=1577983800


[21-Jun-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://patch.com/washington/seattle/2019-king-county-homeless-count-whats-different-year

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2019 King County Homeless Count: What's Different This Year
A snapshot count of the homeless population in King County showed a drop for the first time since 2012.
https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/22906546/20190502/015238/styles/patch_image/public/cam-0578-20190502134635-44998200.jpg


[21-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the services added meant that kids and white adults started to find ways out.


[21-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-white adults? Screwed.


[21-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/How-the-state-of-homelessness-in-Seattle-has-14953962.php

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Here's how homelessness in Seattle has changed over the decade
The number of people experiencing homelessness in  Seattle  and King County has risen by thousands over the past decade. 
 Rising rents, increased cost of living and a shortage of affordable housing -- among other factors -- have caused a homelessness crisis in King County, as...
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/05/36/70/18214411/3/rawImage.jpg


[21-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is that in Seattle there are native americans, whose families hav lived there since before whites arrived.


[21-Jun-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politics/why-native-american-people-in-seattle-disproportionately-live-on-the-streets/97144/

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Why Native Americans in Seattle Disproportionately Live on the Streets
Counting is catching up to a disturbing trend.
https://assets.ozy.com/ozy-prod/2019/12/chief_seattle_club_23.jpg?width=1200&height=630&fit=cover


[21-Jun-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally the people who were on the land *first* make up 10 percent of the homeless population.


[21-Jun-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what colonialism does.


[21-Jun-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't fukking genetics with mental illnesses or something, it was white people saying "nope no jobs *for you*".


[21-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://crosscut.com/2019/09/seattle-addicted-bad-narratives-about-homelessness

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Seattle is addicted to bad narratives about homelessness
At the root of the crisis is not substance abuse, but a broken economy.
https://crosscut.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/mcknight_seattlehomelessness_0025_3.jpg


[21-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
"A Seattle Times article from last year about homeless encampments in Ballard is filled with references to drugs, alcohol and crime, even though data show 79% of people who are homeless have none of those issues."


[21-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, people see homeless tents and go WHAT IF RAPISTS AND KNIFE-WIELDING CRIMINALS ARE THERE?


[21-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, but see


[21-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
10% of those homeless are Natives.


[21-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same old shit.


[21-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You say that people who aren't white, or that "failed" to be white ("white trash") are criminals.


[21-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then, you say it's reasonable to treat criminals poorly.


[21-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bam, racial disparity created.


[21-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy going over the decades and you're in business.


[21-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
So yes, hire the damn homeless.


[21-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't blame the homeless for their situations.


[21-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, related video about blaming people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xQeXOz0Ncs

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1xQeXOz0Ncs/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The super tl;dw is that some Navy captain basically destroyed the reactor.


[21-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He gave training on how to not cripple a submarine that couldn't go into meltdown. The training was applied to a reactor that could.


[21-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blaming him or any of the people he trained is completely pointless. None of them could've known.


[21-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Damn that a nebbie wall


[21-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Look at all that neb


[21-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
People do things based on the rules and what you giv them. If you giv them bad stuff, stuff blows up.


[21-Jun-20 08:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> Basically, the services added meant that kids and white adults started to find ways out.
> Non-white adults? Screwed.
:ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to the Blue Islands that worship Uncle Joe.


[21-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The racism in this country is incredibly persistent.


[21-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The South is much more overt about it, but it's all over the North and cities, just in different forms.


[21-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Essentially the promise of White America is that racism will be accomplished in *some way*.


[21-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if you utterly hammer in civil rights stuff, there's a constant undercurrent of prejudice that can often actually slip by unnoticed when the more overt forms are out and about.


[21-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll get better eventually, but, Boomers etc.


[21-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be a while before people like Joe Biden are all buried in the ground where their aggressive opposition to real change belongs.


[21-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The hope is that the current mess throws out those types from New York City and Seattle and similar.


[21-Jun-20 08:42 AM] jlun2#8758
>  throws out those types from New York City and Seattle and similar
make the racist ideas taboo, or trigger a white flight to south?


[21-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The former, the latter is impossible.


[21-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, I'm pretty sure Michael Bloomberg won't be running in the next primary.


[21-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Honahue#0656
half a billion dollars to get kicked in the nuts on cable


[21-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A very expensive night in Vegas all for a little masochism.


[21-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could've just *asked* Elizabeth to castrate you, Michael.


[21-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[21-Jun-20 08:50 AM] jlun2#8758
also that article where only idiots can be police


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg may have been playing the long game, building field offices etc


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's not gonna work.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Next election he's gonna be facing the same arguments Warren used.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Possibly even more refined.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bloomberg had a bigger base than Warren did.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is hilarious.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only later on.


[21-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
She had a large initial chunk of support, but she blew it up by waffling right at critical times.


[21-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Oh yeah I saw him on TV yeah he was mayor or NYC, oh sure he's fine"


[21-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SNL had a good line, something like


[21-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Warren's support hadn't tanked before Iowa, she'd be in Biden's position now.


[21-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I have a solid base of public school teachers AND substitutes"


[21-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also you can easily buy an election if you don't ignore Super Tuesday


[21-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing is, Warren was everyone's second choice.


[21-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ignoring Super Tuesday does not work


[21-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Bernie was on the rise before Iowa, people started turning to her expecting Biden to collapse (and wanting something a bit left of him, but not Bernie).


[21-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie however then outperformed expectations, and Warren had just shat on all those that wanted anything more progressive than Biden.


[21-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Biden came on the rise, that was that.


[21-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Will progressives accept a Biden/Harris ticket


[21-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[21-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
As much as the party wants it, it can't be.


[21-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris would set fire to everything the moment she's on stage.


[21-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, technically rioters would, but you get the idea.


[21-Jun-20 08:57 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[21-Jun-20 08:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think most progressives have by this point realized they're not getting a progressive ticket, but they'll fight tooth and nail to let the choice be between two *regressives*


[21-Jun-20 08:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> they'll fight tooth and nail 
remember to vote


[21-Jun-20 08:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden is liberal enough to be an issue that can be dealt with. Harris is not


[21-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is the person who tried to keep a blakk guy in jail with a literally fake confession.


[21-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives can't possibly believe four more years of Trump is less harmful than Biden.


[21-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her on the tikket means molotov cokktails on stage.


[21-Jun-20 08:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Harris is the textbook definition of DINO


[21-Jun-20 08:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
she more resembles the current Republican party than even Romney. She is more like a republican now than the former figurehead of the party


[21-Jun-20 08:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony I actually had whatever Nebbie said about the first minorities in power will screw thier own group in mind instead


[21-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are Bidens two top choices a cop and an ex cop though


[21-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
*two ex cops


[21-Jun-20 08:59 AM] jlun2#8758
boomers love law & order


[21-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not necessarily that the first ones in power screw over their own kind.


[21-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that they are the most "acceptable" of their kind, as in the ones that most act like the majority.


[21-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
This means you don't really make progress usually.


[21-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The screwing over their own kind thing actually happens lower down, with like, police officers.


[21-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why there's an IQ limit for some police dept.s


[21-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
if random blakk guy would rather work elsewhere once you hav him beat his own cousin to death, then that's an issue, he might snitch etc.


[21-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you know he can't work elsewhere, then you can threaten to fire him to get him to comply.


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> some police dept.s
huh. for some reason I expected all


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You only end racism when a blakk guy running society can play hip hop and talk in AAVE all day officially etc.


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not over with someone like Obama, who has to act white.


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meh rich areas you only really need a token police force


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For cats in trees and teenagers loitering


[21-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe a domestic sometimes


[21-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither of those things need police.


[21-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah...


[21-Jun-20 09:04 AM] jlun2#8758
> Maybe a domestic sometimes
police be like :glowing_eyes: time to ~~join~~ see some action


[21-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_and_Silk

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Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, known as Diamond and Silk, are American live-stream video bloggers, social media personalities, political activists and former Fox Nation hosts.  They are known for their commentary in support of United States President Donald Trump.
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[21-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, I found out that my mom finds these grifters very entertaining


[21-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mostly given up on trying to talk about politics with my parents when I do


[21-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of people LOVE that shit


[21-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"black man says white culture is the best" :O >like >like >like >like >like


[21-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"People need to stop being so butthurt about everything"- quote from parents


[21-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
validation you're right from people you dunk on repeatedly is like crack

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[21-Jun-20 09:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking they then screech when you mention anything millenial right? then when you say the same "People need to stop being so butthurt about everything" they go power trip & yell at you for being an "ungrateful shit"  right


[21-Jun-20 09:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hence what was done to Norma McCorvey/Jane Roe


[21-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom thinks the riots are "carried away". She doesn't really seem to get the reasons for them even when such are explained.


[21-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh no they hate Trump


[21-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thankfully she's not big on media consumption so she doesn't watch grifters or such.


[21-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
She just constantly blows off what I say about what will happen.


[21-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then it does.


[21-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My dad did launch into a rant about how Floyd and the guy in Atlanta didn't do anything wrong


[21-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"He didn't need to die just because he was pulled over for a DUI"


[21-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a bit of fun with the initial coronavirus stuff.


[21-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Totally unprompted, just talking about it happening


[21-Jun-20 09:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every 2 days I would tell her how many people were infected.


[21-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
She didn't seem to notice much that the number doubled every time.


[21-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Her world is very much music/movies/gossip, don't mind the statistics etc.


[21-Jun-20 09:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
relatedly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e02eiX866N4

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[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way she can really approach Trump stuff is to learn that Trump and company are all evil assholes.


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kinda connected


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
She can't really grapple with the idea of how they do the bad things.


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyone else think movies as we knew them are dead?


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Depends on what "as we knew them" refers to.


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you mean like Dolittle?


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In a theater.


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[21-Jun-20 09:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was kinda already dead before this


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sports will come back, but not the traditional theater


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's too late for baseball this year.


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
funnily enough, live theater is probably going to be fine


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Joker was the last gasp.


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When are you going to have the World Series, December?


[21-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rise of Skywalker was the body shitting itself, while Sonic was the last head movement.


[21-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Honahue#0656
I'd prefer to see Godzilla vs Kong in theaters there's something about seeing Big G on a big screen


[21-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trolls World Tour dissected the body.


[21-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AMC backed down on masks but not being upset about Universal.


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Honahue#0656
people didn't like Rise of Skywalker but it wasn't a bomb


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Universal is one of the only studios still committed to theatrical releases this year


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
RoS making money isn't the point


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's that it's tainted movies


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
RoS is definitive proof that Hollywood is broken.


[21-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dolittle is too.


[21-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm only interested in 2 movies and they both delayed


[21-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is how you ruin a household name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohk5PjXAZi4

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[21-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ten CGI talking animals to comment on every single thing.


[21-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the climax of the movie btw.


[21-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire plot and all its emotions builds towards...removing a bowel obstruction.


[21-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then, right after this


[21-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were a slew of animated movies skipping theaters.


[21-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trolls World Tour was the first to make an impact, but quite a few came around the same time.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Animation in theaters is deaaaad.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
This begs the question of why you would want to go to theaters when shit you stream is just better.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Artemis Fowl is utterly terrible and streamed, but that just hurts it even worse.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Artimes Fowl took 20 years to make.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was low budget.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the worst movie of 2020.


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't it?


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
$120 million


[21-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For a live action movie with CGI, that is kinda low.


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not super cheap, but not insane


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes but they're probably not even gonna make $20 million bakk.


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the question is


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
if Netflix is releasing good original movies now


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a1nquvQqtc

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Artemis fowl (2020) / It's feeding time scene
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[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the Willoughbys


[21-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
and Disney is putting out Artemis Fowl and Dolittle


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you not just watch Netflix?


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That reminds me, the reviewer I hate read that disliked the Willoughbys


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if it's bad, it's less time invested.


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Straight up refused to review Scoob


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad movies mean people don't *want* the theater experience.


[21-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you're sitting at home, you can just pause and go do something else if the movie upsets you.


[21-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also he reviewed some anime movie and actually gave it a good review but made sure to mention "oh it's anime so they have to have festivals and school and this person who was on Pokeman [sic] worked on it" etc


[21-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
To justify a theater trip, a movie needs to be damn good.


[21-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Honahue#0656
most people go to see spectakles


[21-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, AMC dead.


[21-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
RoS was the biggest spectacle and from what I hear, people literally laffed in the theater at dramatic scenes.


[21-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
(I've seen it and I'm pretty sure you'd be insane not to laff at some part of it)


[21-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean, everytime something dramatic happened they immediagle walked it back in the next scene


[21-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The art of self-parody.


[21-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Honahue#0656
one of the things that Last Jedi did was give the universe to the audience, RoS made sure you knew Disney owns it


[21-Jun-20 09:35 AM] Honahue#0656
like the ending of Last Jedi is something that would inspire a million fanfics cause it really is saying that there's room for anyone to make a story in that galaxy cause it drops all the Aurtherian bloodline stuff


[21-Jun-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just imagine JJ Abrams in a tank designed by Michael Bay slowly crushing every good idea Rian Johnson ever had while forcing two male protagonists to be straight at gunpoint and you've basically got the movie.


[21-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are we sure if wasn't all Abrams' revenge for Star Trek 2009 not being well received


[21-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, it was about Star Wars specifically.


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rian Johnson defied JJ's plan.


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
I thought most people liked that one


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Star Trek 2009 was a bad action movie.


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
Beyond was the best one tho


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something relevant to "debt to society", @Itsthinking


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a great action movie its a bad Star Trek movie


[21-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know of the DS9 episode "Hard Time"?


[21-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/virtual-prisons

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Forget prisons, the future of punishment will be virtual
Physical jails don't work. Will virtual punishment succeed in replacing them – or will it just create more risks?
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[21-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically this right?


[21-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just googled it and remembered that science fiction dystopias are now being considered


[21-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[21-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's talking about using house arrest with technology to detect leaving.


[21-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is talking about like, hyperspeed prison simulation in your mind.


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wrong article


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There was definitely another article that wanted to do that


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
You go to a prison for 20 years and when you wake up, it's been 5 minutes.


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this like Player Up where criminals have to work for Not-Amazon as NPCs in games?


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also no.


[21-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, O'Brien gets accused of spying.


[21-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They immediately punish him with a 20-year sentence.


[21-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In his mind, he's in a cell with some alien guy.


[21-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guards are brutal, the food is barely enuff, he kills the guy after a misunderstanding a few weeks in.


[21-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
He then slowly goes mad over the course of 20 years.


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then...surprise it's been 5 minutes okay go home, enjoy your PTSD!


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>20 extra years of life


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno dude...


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
20 extra years in a room with nothing to ever do.


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just to psychologically torture you, to "pay your debt to society"


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy wasn't real, btw.


[21-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
All just a complete simulation.


[21-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds rad, time to crime!


[21-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, consider, @Itsthinking, that this is objectively morally superior to actually sending people to prison for 20 years.


[21-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has the same effects on them, but it costs next to nothing and it doesn't disrupt anything.


[21-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further consider that it's clearly morally wrong.


[21-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Therefore, we must conclude that it's morally wrong to use prisons merely to punish.


[21-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless we believe it's good to just inject PTSD into people directly.


[21-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Honahue#0656
one of my favorite moments in TNG is when Picard gets tortured by Romulan the "4 lights" episode it ends Picard asks Troi into his ready room for therapy


[21-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cardassian.


[21-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Romulans just drug you and turn you into a sleeper agent or something.


[21-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cardassians torture you for torture's sake.


[21-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, as to why "debt to society" does somewhat resonate with Conservatives, it's because they literally do believe we should just inject PTSD into people, @Itsthinking. It's kind of the whole worldview about divine punishment.


[21-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just really trikky with them because ultimately, they mostly just want criminals *outright murdered*, and "criminals" is a proxy for blakks.


[21-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you won't get anywhere arguing that someone's debt to society is paid.


[21-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Honahue#0656
just want a return to Legalism


[21-Jun-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
In their mind, those 20 years to cause PTSD were just an unfortunate compromise with practicality.


[21-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we could inject PTSD directly, police would fukking hav kits to do it to blakk people they pull over.


[21-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be called a way to "coerce better behavior" and "reduce arrest resistance".


[21-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, giving PTSD is partially with the hope of making someone commit suicide...because *they believe suicide sends you to hell where you get eternal torment*. And for that matter, that's what the conservative obsession with executions is about too.


[21-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[21-Jun-20 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-teens-and-k-pop-fans-tanked-trumps-tulsa-rally-2020-6

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TikTok teens say they tanked Trump's comeback rally in Tulsa by res...
At the rally billed as his big comeback, Trump spoke to a half-empty stadium — and teenagers and a grandmother from Iowa are claiming victory.
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[21-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Inb4 tiktok and kpop fans are terrorists now


[21-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:derpchrys:


[21-Jun-20 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The hacker known as tiktok


[21-Jun-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-people-who-burn-an-american-flag-should-go-to-jail-for-a-year-2020-6

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Trump wants Congress to pass a law so people who burn the American ...
The Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is constitutionally-protected free speech under the First Amendment in the 1989 case Johnson vs. Texas
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[21-Jun-20 01:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Setting aside the obvious and immediate unconstitutionality


[21-Jun-20 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile he and his supporters are stamping his face on the flag which actually is a crime


[21-Jun-20 01:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump had better watch out about "desecration" being a terrible thing


[21-Jun-20 01:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause that isn't the first time he's done stupid things regarding the flag


[21-Jun-20 01:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
remember when he straight-up did not know how to color in the flag with a bunch of kindergarteners?


[21-Jun-20 01:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or how he's fond of hugging the flag like he caught it in a dressing room?


[21-Jun-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jun-20 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/deanna4congress/status/1274522762502160386?s=21

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The degenerate left claimed President Trump had health issues after drinking water with 2 hands.

Today he drank with one and tossed the glass to the side! 🤣

GREATEST. PRESIDENT. EVER. https://t.co/0EAGff1Bhb
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[21-Jun-20 01:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the way Trump's rendered on that flag looks like a dystopian kfc logo


[21-Jun-20 01:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, heck, he might as well have just littered the background with SI over and over


[21-Jun-20 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wbir.com/article/news/politics/looking-for-a-fight-tn-abortion-bill-faces-legal-challenge-hours-after-passage/51-0c467ee8-1bed-4f13-9249-bf636ecf3536

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'Looking for a fight' | TN abortion bill faces legal challenge hour...
Legislators passed one of the strictest abortion bans in the country in the wee hours of Friday morning. By the afternoon, lawsuits against it had been filed.
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[21-Jun-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Jun-20 02:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The minute any one of these anti-abortion legislators proposes a bill that enforces draconian measures against anyone who interferes with a statewide child welfare plan that guarantees food, housing, education, and healthcare to every child between the ages of birth and 16, and outlaws do-not-resuscitate orders and hospice care, *then and only then* will I believe they have grounds to even *suggest* a bill like this


[21-Jun-20 03:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618603397582422036/724251768149508206/Ea9tagEWsAYhV9B.png

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[21-Jun-20 03:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:scared:


[21-Jun-20 03:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh no


[21-Jun-20 03:32 PM] AaronMk#4499
Time to accelerate my plan to egg the white house.


[21-Jun-20 03:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean we all knew they were tokenizing and logging chat input, that's how the search works, but uh, this looks *exactly* like what Facebook's evil hath wrought


[21-Jun-20 03:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wasn't aware there were ads to speak of in discord, did they let slip their plans?


[21-Jun-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Remember: companies aren't loyal to you, they're just loyal to what will bring them the most profit without hassle, and when everyone else is doing it then  you have nothing to lose by doing it too. :^)))))


[21-Jun-20 03:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or have I just not used the functions that would expose me to that


[21-Jun-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
Might be browser Discord


[21-Jun-20 03:34 PM] AaronMk#4499
OR the ads will soon be coming to the rest of us


[21-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Won't you guys love for all n-word users to be autobanned now tho?


[21-Jun-20 03:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[21-Jun-20 03:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That's what I understood from the post above.


[21-Jun-20 03:51 PM] wren#0114
maybe they're selling the ad info to third parties


[21-Jun-20 03:52 PM] wren#0114
also, they log and transmit lists of your running programs to their servers if you use the desktop app


[21-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
also


[21-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
looks like it is not entirely real


[21-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://twitter.com/BigaOtman/status/1274047364257415169

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@discord Fix your pedophile problem and then try to solve racism.
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[21-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[21-Jun-20 03:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 @prism stryder(intexda)


[21-Jun-20 04:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh thank god


[21-Jun-20 04:19 PM] RYDE#8862
Can we do a ranked voting solution? The two-party system really sucks


[21-Jun-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd give it a go, but the two party system would eat itself alive trying to prevent such a thing


[21-Jun-20 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or rather has eaten itself alive to prevent such a thing


[21-Jun-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2019-01-14/the-sorry-spectacle-of-marxists-in-defence-of-chinese-collective-capitalism

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The Sorry Spectacle of “Marxists” in Defence of Chinese “Collective...
*An Italian comrade takes a sardonic look at the latest abasement of so-called “academic Marxists” at the feet of the new imperialist order _à la chinois_.* At the "Fifth European Forum on the Chinese Way" (Bologna, 14 October), promoted by the Academy for Marxism of the Peopl...
https://www.leftcom.org/files/China%20one%20belt_0.jpg


[21-Jun-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, they exist


[21-Jun-20 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are "marxists" who unironically believe China is communist


[21-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1274385086356631554

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This is Trump’s America: a woman with an “I can’t breathe” T-shirt was pulled from the line to Trump’s Tulsa event - which she said she had a ticket for- and arrested https://t.co/aTB4nl8gcJ
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[21-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like a 1A lawsuit


[21-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
you can't arrest people for a shirt like that


[21-Jun-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/nadler-says-calls-to-impeach-barr-are-waste-of-time-2020-6

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House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler says calls to impeach AG Barr...
Nadler said calls to impeach Barr weren't premature but would be a waste of time because Republicans in the Senate would not consider it.
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[21-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/5NiHjfG.jpeg

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For thee, not for me
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[21-Jun-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
@Crow Ego scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7


[21-Jun-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
more like scratches at a level 3


[21-Jun-20 06:33 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Great book hot author


[21-Jun-20 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/4niPLnn.jpg

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[21-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro that’s called martyrdom


[21-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
The Christians did it to empower those scared although I just see it as zealotry


[21-Jun-20 06:39 PM] Crow#5457

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[21-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
But like... They sinned and got kicked out of magic garden land


[21-Jun-20 06:45 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And they'll sin again


[21-Jun-20 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/S7Wvg76

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It's amazing to think only 50 years ago racial segregation was legal and African Americans did not have the rights to vote.
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[21-Jun-20 08:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://allthatsinteresting.com/confederados

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When The South Lost The Civil War, 20,000 Confederates Fled To Braz...
The unreformed Confederados, as local Brazilians called them, made every effort to preserve the illusion of life as it had been.
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[21-Jun-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
ew


[21-Jun-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
also curious even in 1800s the southerners were still obese


[21-Jun-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JCarrollFoy/status/1271788995442343936

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A new era
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[21-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
statue of robert e. lee in richmond, va


[21-Jun-20 08:44 PM] Crow#5457
tbh they should just remove lee from the horse, leave the horse up


[21-Jun-20 08:45 PM] Crow#5457
🐴


[21-Jun-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
futa horse statue

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[21-Jun-20 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Confedarado.jpg

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[21-Jun-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently Jimmy Carter visited a Confederate colony in Brazil in 1972


[21-Jun-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
singular yike


[21-Jun-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reagan fans: "Carter was a commie libtard!"
Jimmy Carter:


[21-Jun-20 08:49 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What kind of lighting is being used to light up that statue ? is it shopped?


[21-Jun-20 08:49 PM] jlun2#8758
am interested too


[21-Jun-20 08:49 PM] jlun2#8758
is it leds


[21-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, Lee was against statues.


[21-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If he were alive today, he would insist to take himself off that damn horse, and leave the rainbow up.


[21-Jun-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
He'd probably grumble about what the rainbow means, but he very much said that what's best is to just come together as a nation and not focus on wounds.


[21-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
iirc lee didn't even want to fight in the civil war


[21-Jun-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Apparently everybody likes my name


[21-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
caw

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[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
caw[]

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[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Lee only became a CSA general out of loyalty to his home state of Virginia iirc


[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pwny[Pony]


[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Virginia had stayed in the union like Kentucky did, there'd be no Lee


[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, that tweet is the perfect metaphor for what I've been saying about statues.


[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the civil war would have likely been over sooner


[21-Jun-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're to project onto.


[21-Jun-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] you're named "Lee" irl?


[21-Jun-20 08:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or general


[21-Jun-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 no


[21-Jun-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
I was talking about the  []


[21-Jun-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
oh


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
if you ever get a kid name it []


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Byte E. Lee


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Confederate general Byte


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
oh no I'm a horrific racist now


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Byte expropriates wheat from random Missouri farmers on a campaign against the Union army, 1863, colorized


[21-Jun-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
don't worry, I'm not reproducing


[21-Jun-20 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
While uttering the n-word exactly fifteen times


[21-Jun-20 09:05 PM] jlun2#8758
then get auto banned by discord ai


[21-Jun-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
what if the first sapient AI thinks it's okay to hate african americans because it thinks the n word is actually an acceptable word to use to refer to african americans, and the reason why the word is banned is because african americans are considered an acceptable target of hate

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[21-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
so what tech bros want


[21-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
@byte[] me neither :depressed:


[21-Jun-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah but you're :transgender_pride_flag:


[21-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That means I'm invalid :raptorshy:


[21-Jun-20 09:57 PM] byte[]#2610
or just sterile xd


[21-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Why not both?


[21-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Karmadose#6969
Adoption and proxy pregnancy are things. I'm also opting out of raising any kids though


[21-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Karmadose#6969
Maybe when I'm 30 my mind will change, that's the idea I've been going with. But it hasn't budged much since


[21-Jun-20 09:59 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm going to have to adopt Dash's but it's not the same


[21-Jun-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
what


[21-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Not being able to get pregnant is a huge blow to my sense of self worth and thinking about it makes my dysphoria worse

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[21-Jun-20 10:02 PM] jlun2#8758
@Raptorshy http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6751709.stm


[21-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Okay?


[21-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't see what that has to do with anything but alright


[21-Jun-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
invest in inducing it pls

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[21-Jun-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
(hope that doesnt offend)


[21-Jun-20 10:03 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It doesn't but I feel worse now


[21-Jun-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[21-Jun-20 10:04 PM] jlun2#8758
sorry


[21-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Raptorshy#6268
It's okay

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[21-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Really


[21-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Imma lay down for a bit


[21-Jun-20 10:06 PM] Raptorshy#6268
(don't worry hormones are just really fucky wucky)


[21-Jun-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Jun-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[21-Jun-20 10:59 PM] illumnious#7938
aaaaaahahaha


[21-Jun-20 10:59 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEZ


[21-Jun-20 10:59 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[21-Jun-20 11:01 PM] illumnious#7938
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[21-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
🇴 🇴 🇫


[21-Jun-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[22-Jun-20 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[22-Jun-20 12:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
SHARE IF YOU DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE DEMONRATS!!!!!


[22-Jun-20 12:51 AM] Sir Frosty#3323

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[22-Jun-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl i’d cheer for an islamic themed NASCAR racer


[22-Jun-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inshallah


[22-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[22-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bomb car


[22-Jun-20 12:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’s a massive aerodynamic chunk of C4


[22-Jun-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[22-Jun-20 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah i also wish there was mass violence in NASCAR


[22-Jun-20 12:55 AM] wren#0114
I wanna see what happens if we send the rednecks over to fight isis


[22-Jun-20 12:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Would make it much better tbh


[22-Jun-20 12:55 AM] wren#0114
pickup trucks and rifle jousting


[22-Jun-20 01:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the entire redneck strategy is a defensive one, though


[22-Jun-20 01:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
by which I mean the stereotypical shotgun-toting old dude with a beer belly sitting on his front porch ready to shoot anything that comes up the holler


[22-Jun-20 01:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only time I can think that they go on the offensive is when they're placed into a target-rich environment where there are no consequences for hitting the wrong thing, like hunting feral hogs


[22-Jun-20 01:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
troublingly, and as reality bears out, you point that mentality towards humans and what you get is a bunch of guys driving around in the brush at night with high-capacity weaponry and searchlights, only they're not gunning down hogs, they're gunning down people on the US border


[22-Jun-20 01:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you send them overseas to fight ISIS, and you either get a bunch of cowards who hole up in enemy territory and become an invading force in their own right, or you get war criminals.


[22-Jun-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like Eddie Gallagher


[22-Jun-20 01:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
precisely.


[22-Jun-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/503645-all-eyes-on-roberts-ahead-of-supreme-courts-abortion-ruling

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Chief Justice John Roberts is under the microscope as the Supreme Court prepares to issue its first major ruling on abortion rights in the Trump era, which will give the clearest indication yet of the court’s willingness to revisit protections tha
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[22-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503696-howie-hawkins-clinches-green-partys-nomination-after-primary-wins

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Howie Hawkins clinches Green Party's nomination after primary wins
Green Party co-founder Howie Hawkins became the party's presumptive 2020 nominee on Sunday after two states and a major party caucus held their contests a day earlier.
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[22-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mounting unnecessary deaths from COVID-19 and the uprising against racism have revealed how the two governing parties are presiding over a failed state. The Green Party is the alternative: Medicare for All, the full-strength Green New Deal, an Economic Bill of Rights, and ending militarized policing at home and abroad"


[22-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sorry, why aren't you people just a part of the progressive wing of the Democrats again?


[22-Jun-20 01:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the democratic party is full of conservatives who are resistant to progressive movement


[22-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't an alternative. This is just what half of the Democratic Party wants.


[22-Jun-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably because the democratic party does all it can to kill it's progressive wing


[22-Jun-20 01:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, if you took the GOP and thanos snapped it, and split the democratic party, you would have a pretty even balance between right- and left-wing ideals


[22-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what half of Democrat voters want.


[22-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's what none of the Democratic establishment wants.


[22-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are like Labour in the end.


[22-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're a loose tapestry of vaguely left ideas used to contain actual progress by the conservative majority.


[22-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Synfag#9241
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[22-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Synfag#9241
when self-insert goes too far.


[22-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How is this politics


[22-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was there a gay sex scene people are riled up about?


[22-Jun-20 01:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a controversial point of current events that's tied to what is seen as a vaguely politicized moment in a AAA game


[22-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
I havn't heard any actually riling about it.


[22-Jun-20 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what *have* you heard about this scene in TLOU2


[22-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
All I've seen is a meme that replaced every frame of it.


[22-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also not true


[22-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought people didn't like TLOU2 because the story is bad, not because there's gays in it


[22-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you telling me all these low scores and memes and hate are because gamers are homophobic antisemites?


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so tl;dr there are no gays, but there is a scene in which the girl from the first game gets raped by Druckman's self-insert


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That sounds totally ridiculous


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wingbeat that doesn't happen


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also the game tries to make you Feel Bad™️ for killing someone at the same time


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a sex scene between the villain and his self insert


[22-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People hate her because they initially decided she was trans


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> villain and his self insert
:sombralick:


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thus gamergater rage bate


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was my understanding that the villain of the game is in fact the girl from the first game


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"They" being the 4chins crowd


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The villain is the daughter of some character you kill in the first game


[22-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Women can't have muscles ever I guess


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] jlun2#8758
6 years later gamergaters still around :ts_cry:


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay, so it is a character from the first game but not the one I was remembering


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course they are


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They were around before gamergate


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At any rate, she wasn't a villain in the first game so to speak


[22-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares about TLOU, new Crash game tomorrow


[22-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They just didn't have a cause to pretend to care about while just being their usual racist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist selves


[22-Jun-20 01:22 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I dont think any gamers (including me) even have muscles tbh


[22-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen the bigot sandwich scene, but not played any TLOU


[22-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thanks to gamergate they can say that _actually_ it's about ethics in games journalism and have a common name and identity to group themselves around in their little echo chambers and safe spaces


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why in a zombie apocalypse is there a bar, access to steak, and people complaining about bigotry?


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because rich people don't fukking get it, Its.


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you really think a zombie apocalypse would end bigotry?


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've never been poor.


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Figured there's more important things to talk about


[22-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've never been thru hard times.


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also why are there actual cities but people are still riding around on horses?


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Given that my information is secondhand, my best guess as to what's going on here is all downstream of a pretty simple problem: They tried to make the game more grimdark but took some weak story tropes and railroading to make it happen


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How is there enough fuel for electricity but not cars?


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electricity can be done (and is mostly) without fuel.


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and so people are picking the game apart over the lousy writing and finding all these unintended consequences


[22-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it's because "gas has run out," why haven't bullets run out?


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullets can be made from old scrap metal.


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gas cannot.


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The steak is the biggest issue, really.


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
I think the main problem people have with her being muscled is that her arms are disproportionate to the rest her body


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The steak and the bar they're in


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
I just assume americans eat steak every meal (somehow) by now


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't "oh here's some old liquor and beer to sell"


[22-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like a normal ass bar


[22-Jun-20 01:26 AM] jlun2#8758
"how are you getting steak on mars"
"I'm american"


[22-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, alcohol is easy to produce, @Itsthinking


[22-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Human society makes it even when there's barely any food.


[22-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Steak however...that's a hard thing to get.


[22-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just let something rot in a pot for a while


[22-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cows take a ridiculous amount of resources.


[22-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[22-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did they say it was beef? There're a lot of zombies around, after all, shouldn't let all that protein go to waste...


[22-Jun-20 01:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again: I think it's down to lazy reliance on tropes and clichés. This is exactly how we got Dex's Diner in the star wars prequels


[22-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is exactly how we got fortnite.


[22-Jun-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
lIke, I've got zero idea in the game where this steak we're talking about is, but I would be totally unsurprised if it's in a setting eerily similar to the steak dinner scene in the Matrix


[22-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Elaborate


[22-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fortnite isn't about the story.


[22-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's PUBG with the ability to make thin constructions in a grid.


[22-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And tear apart parts of the environment in the same grid.


[22-Jun-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fortnite did try to introduce lore with their seasons, though, and I think that's what Frosty is talking about


[22-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The steak scene is memorable because it has the phrase "bigot sandwich" in it


[22-Jun-20 01:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
tell me this: Is the character who says that line eating the steak and espousing worldviews?


[22-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically "Sorry I was drunk and said dumb stuff, have this sandwich"

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[22-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the steak *is* being used metaphorically in the scene?


[22-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, he's giving them actual steak sandwiches.


[22-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ellie then says


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[22-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To someone asking what she has.


[22-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway


[22-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503819-bolton-says-hell-back-biden-over-trump-in-november

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Bolton says he intends to back Biden over Trump in November
President Trump's former national security adviser John Bolton said in an interview published Sunday that he intends to vote for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in November.
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[22-Jun-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's nice and all but again, where was any of this sentiment during impeachment


[22-Jun-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well bolton offered to testify if they subpoenaed him, and then republicans flat out denied inviting anyone to testify ever


[22-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again he could have just given them  written testimony and had that enter the public record without his verbal testimony, so that's also a point against him


[22-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No he said he would sue if subpoenaed


[22-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He wants to sell a book.


[22-Jun-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait really? i am remembering way wrong then


[22-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd sue if congress did


[22-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But then dropped it and said he'd appear if the senate asked


[22-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course, that was never gonna happen


[22-Jun-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i remembered that wrong then, my bad


[22-Jun-20 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/21/john-bolton-book-pirate-editions-332890

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Pirated editions of Bolton’s book appearing online
The book has been the subject of a legal challenge by the Trump White House.
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[22-Jun-20 01:59 AM] wren#0114
lewd


[22-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Lewd


[22-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
More like


[22-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Owo’d

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[22-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*The Room 2: Where It Happened*


[22-Jun-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Jun-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
here you go if you want it

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[22-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


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[22-Jun-20 02:00 AM] wren#0114
triple :lewd:


[22-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[22-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cheers


[22-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also he got a 75% efficiency of toilet paper to ethanol.


[22-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I'm not surprised


[22-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People've made moonshine with woodchips


[22-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual wood is way worse because pectin turns into methanol and then you might go blind.


[22-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's not uncommon with home distillation in general, at least not the ukranian stuff peddled around here


[22-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or maybe it's the lignin. One of them becomes a lot of methanol.


[22-Jun-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure it's lignin


[22-Jun-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
pectin is only a minor component from what I remember, the major are lignin and cellulose


[22-Jun-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/20/coronavirus-republican-governors-blame-florida-texas-arizona

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Republican governors blame familiar targets as coronavirus rates soar
Florida’s Ron DeSantis says migrant Hispanic workers are spreading Covid-19, while his Texas counterpart blames the young
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[22-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Desantis can go fuck himself


[22-Jun-20 02:33 AM] wren#0114
I read that as "dentists"


[22-Jun-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in the butt? but then he'd get fat (because people tend to get fat when they stuff their face)


[22-Jun-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/attorney-general-barr-russia-investigation-is-closest-we-have-come-to-abraham-lincolns-assassination/

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Attorney General William Barr suggested recently that the investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. election was similar to the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln. During an interview that aired Sunday on Fox News, host Maria Bartiromo posed the questio...
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[22-Jun-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Barr must not remember his history that well


[22-Jun-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
did he forget the part where JFK was shot


[22-Jun-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause otherwise he'd cite the *first* president to get impeached


[22-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“In this sense, I think it is the closest we have come to an organized effort to push a president out of office.”


[22-Jun-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
never mind actual assassinations


[22-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1274376087473184768

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I asked Rosie if she supports the need for a free press.

"I do, as long as they put the right spin on it. Don't take bits and pieces of something and make it out to be something negative... because it's not."

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[22-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
yikes


[22-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1274376761887854592

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Is there anything Trump can do to make you lose support of him?

"Commit adultery on his beautiful, classy wife."

What about Stormy Daniels?

"That was years ago before he ever became president. Nobody is accountable for what he done when he was a lot younger."

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[22-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
Y I K E S


[22-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"That was years ago before he ever became president. Nobody is accountable for what he done when he was a lot younger."


[22-Jun-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is why "free press" is such a dangerous phrase. Everyone likes saying "free press," no one likes admitting that what they really mean is "privatized media"


[22-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Tara Reade doesn't matter right


[22-Jun-20 02:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or Marla Maples and the "three other girls" he was seeing at the time, after his *first* wife. He's on his...third?


[22-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/21/us/guy-fieri-flavortown-columbus-ohio-petition-trnd/index.html

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Thousands sign petition to rename Columbus, Ohio to 'Flavortown' af...
The city of Columbus, Ohio, has already vowed to bring down its statue of Christopher Columbus that stands in front of City Hall. But tens of thousands are hoping to erase the city's connection to Columbus' tainted legacy even further by renaming it Flavortown in honor of home...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200621121639-01-guy-fieri-file-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd so be up for visiting Flavortown


[22-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's not a bad little city from what I've heard


[22-Jun-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was actually less


[22-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fire departments says attendance was 6200


[22-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THmEyiBhbRM
not sure if it's been posted here yet or not but here's a recording of the tulsa rally

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Watch live coverage as President Trump holds a campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

» Subscribe to NBC News: http://nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
» Watch more NBC video: http://bit.ly/MoreNBCNews

NBC News is a leading source of global news and information. Here you will find clips...
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[22-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird how 99% of the crowd is white except for the tiny area right behind trump in the camera shot


[22-Jun-20 03:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> "That was years ago before he ever became president. Nobody is accountable for what he done when he was a lot younger."
meanwhile shit I post years ago will haunt me forever :ts_cry:


[22-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's because you have a conscience


[22-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump doesn't have one


[22-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And his sycophants will excuse _anything_


[22-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Mikey#7286
> 6 years later gamergaters still around :ts_cry:
@jlun2

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[22-Jun-20 03:19 AM] byte[]#2610
it's loss


[22-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Personal responsibility?"


[22-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't the whole thing start because people were mad a woman had a lot of boyfriends?


[22-Jun-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't get the meme


[22-Jun-20 03:21 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought he would have pure paper white skin, blond hair & blue eyes


[22-Jun-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
it's implying that gamergate is currently just a facade people use to blame people who disagree with them for refusing to take personal responsibility


[22-Jun-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
speaking from experience, the term "personal responsibility" is almost always a conservative dogwhistle


[22-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Synfag#9241
gamergate is dead


[22-Jun-20 03:22 AM] byte[]#2610
is it really?


[22-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Mikey#7286
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 imo the point of it is that gamergate ended ages ago and isn't really worth talking about


[22-Jun-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh it wasn't, yeah, unless we're to do an analysis on the mentality of right-wing clickbait youtube


[22-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The first week of "gamergate" I was hopeful it'd a new chance to expose the insidious relationship between game developers and game "journalists" and how they were all just extended, outsourced marketing


[22-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
After a week it all went to shit as "gamergate" as a whole seemed to just focus on a few personalities and reeeing about social justice


[22-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean what GG wanted it got


[22-Jun-20 03:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LEFTISTS claim JAPAN has GAY PEOPLE in it - GEEKS&GAMERS explains why that's FALSE


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People now say if they are sponsored


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Mikey#7286
tbh i never paid much attention to it back in 2015 when it took off, i ignored major political stuff like that


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Mikey#7286
and was still a regular on MLP Forums


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Saying they're sponsored was happening before then


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when Jeff Gertsmann (sp) got fired for rightfully calling Kane and Lynch 2 shit?


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hey i remember my annoying anti-GG phase


[22-Jun-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bad times


[22-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Mikey#7286
@Itsthinking yep


[22-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Synfag#9241
all I got from all of this...




Alec Holowka is dead.


[22-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only thing that "changed" was a few blog posters would go "Full disclosure, I was freinds with this guy 4 years ago"


[22-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Mikey#7286
and gamespot tried to shut him up about it


[22-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now gamers just want tons of T&A


[22-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's all it's about


[22-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now and then


[22-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was all about getting mad that Lara Croft wasn't running around with tripple Ds


[22-Jun-20 03:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> FEMINISTS ATTACK MALE GAMERS, MILO YIANNOPOULOS BEATS THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME IN A LIFE IS STRANGE SPEEDRUN


[22-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/minority-jail-officers-barred-guarding-cop-charged-george/story?id=71370624

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Minority jail officers were barred from guarding ex-cop charged wit...
The May 25 killing was caught on video, prompting national protests.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/chauvin-mugshot-flt-ht-rc-200531_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[22-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
>  Eight Minnesota correctional officers of color have filed a discrimination complaint alleging they were barred from guarding the white former police officer charged with murdering George Floyd, a Black man.
> 
> The eight minority officers assigned to the Ramsey County Adult Detention Center in St. Paul complained to the Minnesota Department of Human Rights that the decision to segregate them and keep them away from fired Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, and the entire floor he was being housed on at the jail, was based solely on the color of their skin.


[22-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Idiots would hyper focus on a few grifters as being SJW icons destroying the industry, and the grifters loved it


[22-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ, the MPD is just super fucking racist isn't it


[22-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Loads of attention, white knights, patreon and kickstarters, etc.


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
well, I guess it isn't really MPD, it's run by the county


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
I guess minnesota is just super fucking racist


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It gave us Amy Klobuchar, so yes


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the gaters just could help thenselves


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Synfag#9241
it's been so long since I've heard any opposing opinion here


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't matter how obvious the bait was, they'd go for it any way


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Hey Teaspoon did you know that Anita is directly ruining all these new games that have come out that she hasn't actually worked on and has no real influence over but it's her fault anyway


[22-Jun-20 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> it's been so long since I've heard any opposing opinion here
@Synfag  wdym


[22-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're free to say whatever you want.


[22-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go ahead.


[22-Jun-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far no conservative to have appeared here has had anything useful to tell imo


[22-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
>  "My fellow officers of color and I were, and continue to be, deeply humiliated, distressed, and negatively impacted by the segregation order," the officer wrote in the complaint. "The order and Ramsey County's failure to adequately address it have caused a hostile work environment for officers of color at Ramsey County Correctional Facility -- Adult Detention Unit."
> 
> Another minority officer, who described herself as Hispanic, said she and other officers of color were reassigned to the third floor of the jail once Chauvin was brought to the fifth floor of the facility, and that they were instructed to remain there even when an all-hands emergency response was called.


[22-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's mainly because American conservativism is less an ideology and more "Whatever Trump wants"


[22-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was never like that before.


[22-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
>  "When we arrived on the 3rd floor, we realized that the facility's employees of color were all on that floor, and that we had been segregated from the 5th floor," the Hispanic officer said in a statement contained in the complaint. "During the same afternoon, an 'A-Team Response' was called, which normally means there is an emergency and correctional officers are to drop what they are doing in order to assist the affected inmate and help transport the inmate to the 5th floor. Several officers of color responded to the call, but were prohibited from taking the inmate to the 5th floor due to the order to segregate."


[22-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"ALL HANDS ON DECK no not you guys just us"


[22-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
the only conservatives that pop in here have been either disingenous to the extreme (arguing in bad faith with fallacies galore), or trolling to get a rise out of people


[22-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Synfag#9241
> So far no conservative to have appeared here has had anything useful to tell imo

so far anything and everything coming out of them are being viewed as that


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because their arguments aren't convincing


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Synfag#9241
at this point, the only thing left is for the conservative lean liberal to even say a word here


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, when someone links some talking head like timcast or quartering or other 12-15 minute ragebaiters


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
... that's not how it works, but okay


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's what happens when your worldview isn't dictated by historical materialism :twiright:


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Nile actually stuck around for a very long time because he was one of the few who didn't break the rules


[22-Jun-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
(he left on his own)


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
who was nile again?


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
O shid i remember him


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What a pest


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Christian conservative, British Empire fanboy


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With the expected alt-right internet language


[22-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
the username I mean, you can still search them if you have their username with the #### at the end


[22-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
it's now a head scratcher if even the phrase "not all" became classified as under *alt-right internet language*


[22-Jun-20 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not all what


[22-Jun-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym by that


[22-Jun-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If I had to take a guess it's the hallmark of a variant of No True Scotsman/bad apples whatever


[22-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Synfag#9241
everybody loves that fallacy


[22-Jun-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have seen the phrase come up frequently


[22-Jun-20 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
usually shorthand for "not all whites are bigots" though the exact words are more typically euphemisms


[22-Jun-20 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, you almost always see it as a defense against "check your privilege" type accusations


[22-Jun-20 03:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is, in effect, a defense of indefensible behavior


[22-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Synfag#9241
now it's starting to sound like **all whites are bigots**


[22-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Synfag#9241
even those not even born yet


[22-Jun-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Race doesn't exist tbf


[22-Jun-20 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All that matters to me are class relations


[22-Jun-20 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as for why it's classified as alt-right and not, y'know, just a general fallacy thing, it comes down to this particular memetic phrase being adopted by alt-right groups


[22-Jun-20 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And racism stems from class inequality as a method of control


[22-Jun-20 03:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who'll just parrot "not all X" as a be-all, end-all counterargument


[22-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Synfag#9241
if that's the case
then anything they touch becomes something of a problem
in that point of view


[22-Jun-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, literally, just the phrase, the same way they'll shout down any attempt at discussion on gun control with "SHALL NOT"


[22-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Synfag#9241
it's starting to sound like the nightmarish case of the floor is lava


[22-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Synfag#9241
where everything they say, step into, and even hold in their hand becomes lava


[22-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not even sure what the point of this topic is tbh


[22-Jun-20 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, there's two separate people shouting into the void at once atm


[22-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
"everyone here's leftist"

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[22-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
🆗


[22-Jun-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and one of them's me


[22-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Synfag#9241
what I mean is that whatever the alt-right do
it becomes the next n-word


[22-Jun-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The OK hand sign is not tho


[22-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Synfag#9241
you sure about that


[22-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Synfag#9241
I remember it being a 4chan thing that went out of control


[22-Jun-20 03:52 AM] jimm#1439
we can't let every little thing some group of people appropriate be unusable


[22-Jun-20 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They tried to make a false equivalency based on a list of "hate symbols" that included such things as bowl cuts


[22-Jun-20 03:52 AM] jimm#1439
the gadsden flag is still a great symbol


[22-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Synfag#9241
a lie that became true after being repeated enough
the OK hand sign


[22-Jun-20 03:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
basically, they started gaming the organization behind the list to get as many ridiculous things on it as possible, like the moon man from an old McDonald's ad etc


[22-Jun-20 03:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and as is the case where anything close to poe's law is involved, some /pol/ types started using them as *actual* hate symbols


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aaaaaaa


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or claiming they were


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My discords bugging out


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Synfag#9241
for all we know
the moment the alt-right starts farming potatoes
the spud will disappear from the market


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep, looks like discord's doing the thing again


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
The 🌈 emoji symbolizes segregation of colors and is officially recognized as a hate symbol


[22-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
(Discord this is a funny joke don't kill me pls 🥺)


[22-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Synfag#9241
this post will haunt you in the future^

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[22-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's not even the ok hand that's being called a white power symbol, it's a specific way of doing it


[22-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/max_650x650/public/2019-04/OkayLarge267x296.jpg

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[22-Jun-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The problem with the alt-right is that their language is way too damn incomprehensible to the average folk


[22-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
with the 3 fingers spread way out


[22-Jun-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So they generally fail to convince any mass of people except for those who were already interested in far-right shenanigans


[22-Jun-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, in the realm of mass media, they lose out to more typical people like Trump


[22-Jun-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And are stuck with squabbling with leftists on social media


[22-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't think you can really get away with co-opting a symbol that's already a symbol for another group


[22-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
referring to the rainbow thing


[22-Jun-20 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is why the whole inverted red triangle thing being somehow related to antifa is garbage


[22-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
it would just confuse people and make them think that you're supporting something you're not


[22-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> what I mean is that whatever the alt-right do it becomes the next n-word
Because that's what they want. "Let's scratch our noses with our ring finger and say it's a symbol of hate"
Well guess what, if people are doing it that way _because of that_ then it effectively becomes a symbol of hate, or at the very "best", a sign that somone's in the "in group" where that sort of "haha racism is funny you guys" thing is the norm


[22-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The swastika in the west didn't become a symbol of hate until people started using it that way


[22-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Synfag#9241
about the inverted triangle
it's becoming like the swastika
it's used everywhere
even on a bunch of 80s themes||. looking at you, Synthwave.||
now hated because the Nazis used it
the same way all other prisons on other countries used it

pointing out that Antifa used the symbol, why this defense is weak
is mostly because it had that feel of *grasping straws*


[22-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/503821-green-party-nominee-says-sanders-progressives-have-failed-to-pull-dems-to

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Green Party nominee says Sanders, progressives have failed to pull ...
Green Party presumptive nominee Howie Hawkins says even progressive Democrats such as Sen.
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[22-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is he dumb?


[22-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He says Sanders and AOC haven't pushed the party left


[22-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where has antifa used an inverted red triangle


[22-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And he's not dumb, he's trying to farm the disenfranchised bernie and AOC supporter crowd that tuned out of politics the instant Biden won the nomination


[22-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Synfag#9241
why I said it felt like grasping straws is because you really have to look far and deep for usage of the inverted triangle


[22-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How far and deep


[22-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Synfag#9241
how would I know


[22-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Synfag#9241
they're the ones searching for it


[22-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Synfag#9241
the guys saying that Antifa used it


[22-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump's team excused their ads by saying it was an antifa symbol


[22-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd have to imagine someone out there in the world other than them has seen it used by antifa before


[22-Jun-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon honestly if one has become disillusioned with Bernie but won't argue for direct action yet, they've got some brainworms


[22-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe they didn't realize it was a symbol used by the nazis


[22-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_Maybe_


[22-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But making shit up instead of going "oh, oops, sorry" looks so much worse


[22-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives sure don't believe in one of the definitions of "progressive"


[22-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe picking Biden this year means a socialist eventually can be president and do more


[22-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't be silly Its


[22-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you can't get what you want _now_ then it'll just never ever happen and we may as well all die


[22-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In 2028, AOC will be 39.


[22-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just saying.


[22-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503149-trump-florida-golf-club-asks-for-rent-relief-citing-coronavirus-impact

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Trump golf club in Florida requests rent relief, citing coronavirus...
President Trump’s golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla., has asked Palm Beach County to defer some of the $88,338 monthly rent it pays to lease public land after a loss
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[22-Jun-20 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Age of Consent will be 39?


[22-Jun-20 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck


[22-Jun-20 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Guess i'll have to fuck cougars only then

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[22-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently normal people still have to pay rent even when fired because of COVID


[22-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But businesses can request not to


[22-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really makes you think


[22-Jun-20 04:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What it makes me think, specifically, is who is charging this rent


[22-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/trump-uighur-muslims-sanctions-d4dc86fc-17f4-42bd-bdbd-c30f4d2ffa21.html

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Exclusive: Trump held off on sanctions over Uighur detention camps ...
"Well, we were in the middle of a major trade deal," Trump told Axios in an interview.
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[22-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
> In an Oval Office interview on Friday afternoon, President Trump told me that he held off on imposing Treasury sanctions against Chinese officials involved with the Xinjiang mass detention camps because doing so would have interfered with his trade deal with Beijing.


[22-Jun-20 04:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just checking, this is the same guy who campaigned on, among other things, the economic impact "chainah" has, and started a trade war with them?


[22-Jun-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Jun-20 06:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] pitch that to silicon valley investors & flee with enough money to live well off forever


[22-Jun-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[22-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckYouKaren/comments/hd1r26/school_board_karen_shopping_online_during/

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[22-Jun-20 06:15 AM] jimm#1439
> He says Sanders and AOC haven't pushed the party left
not enough to get a nomination apparently


[22-Jun-20 06:16 AM] wren#0114
the whole karen meme was funnier when it existed exclusively in incomprehensible obscure doges


[22-Jun-20 07:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JustinMBoudreau/status/1274736273769496576

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https://twitter.com/JustinMBoudreau/status/1274736273769496576
Ok let me break this down for you. 

The k-pop kids didn't cause the rally to be poorly attended. Having an indoor rally in the middle of a pandemic did that. 

What the kids did do, was absolutely wreck the Trump campaigns voter tracking and id system.  Let me explain 

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[22-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[22-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403491006063968257/723986597330157709/Wrong_Think.webm

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[22-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, it is totally Orwellian to believe that maybe it's not just that given group is bad people.


[22-Jun-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument inevitabily is either 1) The left is TOTES just pretending it's all police arresting people more (virtually everyone admits that removing racism in the police wouldn't result in equal crime rates among the races; poverty inherently makes people prone to crime) or 2) The left shouldn't think about *why* blakks commit more crime beyond "they're blakk".


[22-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/724149308533768233


[22-Jun-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Super tl;dr/dw: Don't hate the player; hate the game.


[22-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670697438733926403/688409016094949397/TF2_genocide.gif

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[22-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://youtu.be/Rs4P1kKK-5k

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Diana Martin
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KKK marchers going to Rally
Anti-KKK protester was playing Tuba (correction: Sousaphone- by Matt Buck) to make their approach sound lumbering and stupid...stupid is as stupid does - 7/18/15, Columbia, SC
For licensing or usage please contact:  licensing@viralhog.com
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[22-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268

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[22-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/thisdiegolopez/status/1274800259659640834

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White people get so furious about not being allowed to break the rules as if they’ve been getting away with breaking the rules their whole lif- https://t.co/XchlBUkEKk
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[22-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/thisdiegolopez/status/1274837088257691648

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A glimpse at everyone who’s upset and responding to this tweet
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[22-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
BUT WHERE ARE THE FEMBOY GAMERS


[22-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:trixdisgust:


[22-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
internet lied to me


[22-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sad:


[22-Jun-20 11:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/nascar-says-a-noose-was-found-in-black-driver-bubba-wallaces-garage-stall-at-talladega-superspeedway/news-story/2c9fcd5e3836f753ac5f4af76d878143

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Noose found inside black driver’s garage
NASCAR has revealed a noose was found in African-American driver Bubba Wallace’s garage stall at Talladega Superspeedway.
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[22-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lmao.


[22-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nooses are used not just for hanging blacks.


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Someone hanged it there


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
In his garage


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nooses are also known to spontaneously just appear near black people's property


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:isee:


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Super weird


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I thought he was just having it in his garage.


[22-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like in his shed.


[22-Jun-20 11:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe they should make a better title.


[22-Jun-20 11:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not "found". But "hanged" or "placed".


[22-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is as if they want to excuse whoever did that and call it a coincidence.


[22-Jun-20 11:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It was 'found' which clearly means the black man in nascar put it there himself"


[22-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to use "found" in that situation is because you don't know the how/when/who of the action. You can't elaborate on the placement, only the finding.


[22-Jun-20 11:36 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/comments/hdf4hu/cpd_just_hit_and_maced_a_double_amputee_bravo_you/

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[22-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They could have hid a grenade launcher in their prosthetic legs.


[22-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiright:


[22-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also it is one in a lifetime opportunity to beat up the cripple.


[22-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Synfag#9241
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[22-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why did you delete that one?


[22-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Synfag#9241
this one is funnier


[22-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They have 200 people in that "republic of people"


[22-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So yeah, not really funny


[22-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Synfag#9241
https://theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/21/american-museum-natural-history-new-york-teddy-roosevelt

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American Museum of Natural History to remove Teddy Roosevelt statue
Statue of former president a longtime target of protests as museum chief says ‘Simply put, the time has come to move it’
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[22-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Funnily, I used that statue for horse references


[22-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is a very good statue.


[22-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And yeah, I can see the problem, two black dudes to the side of white man on horse


[22-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, teddy wasn't exactly a white supremacist, but he did believe in the superiority of whites


[22-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Crow#5457
he was also super sexist, thought women were only for taking care of the home and breeding


[22-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
A lot of people back in time were sexist


[22-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
To be fair


[22-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Even scientists


[22-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is a bit of a tricky question.


[22-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do we disregard people's of the past contributions just because they had views which are seen as questionable today.

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[22-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://imagez.tmz.com/image/04/4by3/2020/06/21/04674e11011f467f8bc216a06ea607ff_md.jpg

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[22-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
with this statue? fuck yeah


[22-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
has a native american and a black following him on foot while he rides his high horse, it's obvious subjugation symbolism


[22-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, I was mentioning how the statue is well crafted.


[22-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe they just rip out the black and indian.


[22-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
When I first saw it, I wondered why they have it.


[22-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But I didn't question it cause I am not American.


[22-Jun-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/503656-harriss-path-on-police-reform-littered-with-landmines

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Harris's path on police reform littered with land mines
Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), the front-runner to be former Vice President Joe Biden’s running mate, will be a major influence on deciding whether Democrats decide to cut a deal with Senate Republicans on police reform next week.
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[22-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Crow#5457
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[22-Jun-20 01:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275024974579982336

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RIGGED 2020 ELECTION: MILLIONS OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS WILL BE PRINTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND OTHERS. IT WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF OUR TIMES!
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[22-Jun-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-niece-mary-tell-all-signed-nda-axios-2020-6

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Trump says his niece Mary can't publish a tell-all because she sign...
Mary Trump is preparing to publish a book on July 28 about her "toxic" family and "dangerous" uncle.
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[22-Jun-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-yelled-aides-when-he-saw-empty-tulsa-rally-was-2020-6

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Trump had a meltdown and yelled at aides backstage when he realised...
Trump reportedly unloaded on aides when he realized many seats at Tulsa's BOK Center would go unfilled on Saturday, according to the New York Times.
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[22-Jun-20 03:07 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow :ts_cry:


[22-Jun-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKC21wDarBo

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The Onion
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The Onion's Future News From The Year 2137
For More Breaking News: http://www.theonion.com/video

While other media outlets bring you news as it happens, only the Onion News Network has the power to bring you the news before it happens. In the year 2137 a catastrophe has reduced the world to a lawless wasteland — food ...
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[22-Jun-20 04:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[22-Jun-20 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently back in the day men really did live up to the meme of being completely fucking useless


[22-Jun-20 04:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It took me long time to understand it actually.


[22-Jun-20 04:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And it is not a one of its kind too.

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[22-Jun-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/50000-dead-brazil-coronavirus-outbreak-deepens-200622002933861.html

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More than 50,000 dead as Brazil coronavirus outbreak deepens
Right-wing President Jair Bolsanaro's handling of the pandemic has raised questions about his leadership.
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[22-Jun-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/senators-find-14-billion-in-unspent-funds-after-trump-says-he-demanded-a-slowdown-in-covid-19-testing/

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Senators find $14 billion in unspent funds after Trump says he dema...
Following President Donald Trump’s admission during a campaign rally in Oklahoma over the weekend that he ordered administration officials to “slow the testing down” in response to the recent surge in Covid-19 cases, two leading Democratic senators on Sunday slammed the Health...
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[22-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/503825-judd-gregg-the-south-may-now-secede#

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Judd Gregg: The South may now secede
OPINION: The tolerance shown to the autonomous zone in Seattle is a grave mistake.
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[22-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not even based on content, but the structure of this op ed


[22-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy writes like a first grader.


[22-Jun-20 05:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>Judd Gregg
_me narrows eyes_
Is that a fucking 15 year old's pseudonym based on Judge Dredd?

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[22-Jun-20 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Judd Gregg (R) is a former governor and three-term senator from New Hampshire"
Oh. so just your average run of the mill boomer retard trying to get Trump's attention by writing the dumbest shit possible


[22-Jun-20 05:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I hate how news organizations give editorial slots to complete idiots for the sake of "fairness"


[22-Jun-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jug Gred


[22-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I am saving this article the next time someone implies that short/simple sentences are the best


[22-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reading this was painful.


[22-Jun-20 05:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being the kind of person who thinks "Yep, one sentence for one idea. Time to double space and go onto the next one."


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If you make article too hard to read, most people will not understand it


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is too far in the other direction.


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I know.


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It was a joke that he writes for stoopid people


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:xd:


[22-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just write an article that says "Leftists bad" at this point


[22-Jun-20 05:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Charlie Kirk: Libtards Bad
*OPINION: Are libtards bad? Yes, libtards are dumb poopoo heads. This justifies all we do.*


[22-Jun-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did you know that libtards dumb and poopy? Yes, studies show that libtards succ peepee.


[22-Jun-20 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One day i was walking diwn the street and some libtard comes up to me and acts like a total dummy. It was bad and i hated it.


[22-Jun-20 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In conclusion, libtards dumb poopyheads.


[22-Jun-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Charlie Kirk is a not dumb libtard hater. He studied in not libtard university and currently writes for the New York Times.*

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[22-Jun-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/503869-supreme-court-rules-sec-may-seize-profits-from-fraudulent-companies

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Supreme Court rules SEC may seize profits from fraudulent companies
The Supreme Court on Monday upheld the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) practice of seeking to seize profits obtained illegally from fraudulent companies.
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[22-Jun-20 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOI3ycbaCaE

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The Lincoln Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOI3ycbaCaE
Shrinking
Donald, your rally in Tulsa was a flop. You've probably heard this before, but it was smaller than we expected — and it sure wasn't as big as you promised.
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[22-Jun-20 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why is Thomas such an utter shit at every possible opportunity


[22-Jun-20 06:15 PM] jimm#1439
I'm glad the walmarts near me haven't gone crazy with the mask requirements like the one in the video apparently did


[22-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
"crazy"


[22-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Crow#5457
more like they're legally required to do it now


[22-Jun-20 06:16 PM] jimm#1439
most people wear them anyway


[22-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Most people don't drink and drive, either


[22-Jun-20 06:16 PM] jimm#1439
shouldn't have to go home without groceries just because you forgot it


[22-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Cursed meme
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[22-Jun-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-yelled-aides-when-he-saw-empty-tulsa-rally-was-2020-6

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Trump had a meltdown and yelled at aides backstage when he realized...
Trump unloaded on aides when he realized that many seats at Tulsa's BOK Center would go unfilled on Saturday, The New York Times reported.
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[22-Jun-20 06:37 PM] byte[]#2610
poor donald


[22-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
indeed
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[22-Jun-20 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Where is this from?


[22-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
from after this rally


[22-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
he got sad really

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[22-Jun-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
Sad!

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[22-Jun-20 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-and-ivanka-are-pissed-at-trumps-campaign-manager-2020-6

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Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are reportedly 'pissed' at Trump's c...
With Jared and Ivanka wielding substantial power in the White House, reports of their frustration spell trouble for the campaign's current leadership.
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[22-Jun-20 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh god, not jared kushner! This is the worst possible piss off!


[22-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sad!


[22-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[22-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/politics/john-bolton-trump-room-where-it-happened/index.html

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John Bolton just revealed Donald Trump's dirty little secret
Whether you like John Bolton or not, it's impossible to deny that he is someone who spent almost 18 months in very close proximity to President Donald Trump. And someone who in meetings in which major decisions about national security and foreign policy were made.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200617151225-bolton-trump-file-super-tease.jpg


[22-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Crow#5457
> "There really isn't any guiding principle -- that I was able to discern other than -- what's good for Donald Trump's reelection.
> 
> "Now, look, you can't take the politics out of politics. It plays a role in every aspect of decision making in the executive branch. But there's no coherent basis, no strategy, no philosophy. And decisions are made in a very scatter-shot fashion, especially in the potentially mortal field of national security policy. This is a danger for the republic."


[22-Jun-20 07:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1275106336376668161?s=19

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God (@TheTweetOfGod)
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If she is "more wiser" she may win good better. https://t.co/xG4rWarXTy
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[22-Jun-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
> What those lines confirm is something I've long believed: There is no secret plan that Trump is operating against. He isn't playing three-dimensional chess. He's playing zero-dimensional chess. He's just, well, doing stuff. And seeing what sticks. (There are myriad examples over his first three years in office that prove this out.)


[22-Jun-20 07:12 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Imagine being the kind of person who thinks "Yep, one sentence for one idea. Time to double space and go onto the next one."
@Itsthinking 
The OpEd pages once again confirming that they are the waste bin of the shitty thoughts of the dumb and rich.


[22-Jun-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/how-to-apply-for-tickets-to-president-trumps-phoenix-students-for-trump-event

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How to apply for tickets to President Trump's Phoenix 'Students for...
President Trump is expected to visit Phoenix on June 23 and is set to speak at an event that day.
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[22-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
> shouldn't have to go home without groceries just because you forgot it
@jimm So if I forget to get my car's brakes fixed, I shouldn't hav to just not drive, right?


[22-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a fukking public safety hazard.


[22-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
People should absolutely be sent home groceryless if they try to endanger themselves and others.


[22-Jun-20 08:10 PM] jimm#1439
most people I see wear the masks on their own, a few not doing it is fine


[22-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
A few not doing it means they expose each other greatly, and everyone else a little.


[22-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't hav the right to endanger others.


[22-Jun-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/22/cops-pepper-spray-double-amputee-leave-crawling-ground-12888251/

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'Cops pepper spray double amputee' and leave him crawling on the gr...
The protester reportedly crawled to get medical help while other demonstrators rushed the police to get his legs back.
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[22-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
And how exactly did he loose his prosthetic legs? Aren't they supposed to be locked in place?


[22-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
THAT is your fukking question?


[22-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police steal someone's fukking prosthetics and you wonder how they managed to take them off?


[22-Jun-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They usually twist off.


[22-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Who stole them was going to be my third question


[22-Jun-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police did.


[22-Jun-20 08:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Now why would they steal the legs but not arrest the person. That seems odd.


[22-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Arrests mean a paper trail.


[22-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stolen legs send a message.


[22-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no way you can spin this shit.


[22-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Never stopped them before.


[22-Jun-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They wanted to incapacitate, not arrest


[22-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
A paper trail while dual-wielding stuff you were banned from using could lead to issues.


[22-Jun-20 08:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Slap a resisting arrest charge or disorderly conduct charge and there you go. You could have the guy and the legs


[22-Jun-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
again, they didnt want to arrest


[22-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then you get a paper trail that says you used pepper spray.


[22-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
His word vs yours. Could get stuck in court for years


[22-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about the court case.


[22-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Anyway as is the story sounds weird. I think there must be something more to what happened


[22-Jun-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's that the mayor might come down on them.


[22-Jun-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is liek when they started slicing up car tires, it;s not about arrests, it;s about sending a message of intimidation


[22-Jun-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
From the sounds of the story, they gassed a crowd of protestors, then went ham on beating a few and they took those prosthetics for good measure


[22-Jun-20 08:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
What would they even do with a pair of legs?


[22-Jun-20 08:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mock the legless guy and make sure he can;t follow?


[22-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Build robocop by steal other prosthetics from people?


[22-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Throw them in the trash, most likely.


[22-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or keep in a lokker as "evidence" for in case they want to press charges on him for what they did to him.


[22-Jun-20 08:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Even if the cops took the legs that can't have been easy to do


[22-Jun-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s incredibly easy when you pepper spray the target before hand


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a single twist and then a yank


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
The person would still be moving. Even more so trying to get the spray off


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was also multiple officers


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The things weigh maybe 10 pounds each.


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
Its two legs though


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They are designed to be easy to take off.


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do one at a time.


[22-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It isn't fukking rokket science.


[22-Jun-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The guy had to crawl to get help


[22-Jun-20 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MayorGinther/status/1272963114250588160

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Let me be clear: tear gas and pepper spray will no longer be used to break-up peaceful protests.
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[22-Jun-20 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the city it happened in isn't supposed to be using tear gas or pepper spray anymore


[22-Jun-20 08:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ya see


[22-Jun-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the fukking police were *dual-wielding* it.


[22-Jun-20 08:48 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is America


[22-Jun-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Probably as a message that no mayor can stop them.


[22-Jun-20 08:49 PM] Crow#5457
governors might actually have to send in the national guard to arrest the police


[22-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
it's almost like a miniature insurrection when the police department refuses lawful orders from the local government


[22-Jun-20 09:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
imagine living in country where police and government does not working together,smh


[22-Jun-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
the US has two levels of government


[22-Jun-20 09:01 PM] byte[]#2610
federal and state


[22-Jun-20 09:02 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/g7-urges-china-to-reconsider-new-hong-kong-security-laws

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G7 urges China to reconsider new Hong Kong security laws
Britain persuades all G7 nations including Japan to sign joint statement
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[22-Jun-20 09:17 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, cities and counties only have as much local authority as the state government allows them, I think theoretically a state could just completely take over a city or county and replace the local government if they're found to be seditious


[22-Jun-20 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
depends on the state of course, idk if there's any comprehensive repository for the power dynamic between state governments and their individual counties and cities


[22-Jun-20 09:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275095835697713152?s=19

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[22-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
are there any cases of entire police departments refusing orders and having to be forced out?


[22-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
because it sounds like something that would've happened in the past, but I'm not sure the right way to search google to find it (it keeps giving stuff about people refusing police orders, not the police refusing local government orders)


[22-Jun-20 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, do you know anything about this or what I was talking about earlier? (the power dynamic between states and their counties/cities)


[22-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
States regularly pass laws to say cities can't pass particular laws.


[22-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cities hav 0 power to defy their state.


[22-Jun-20 10:32 PM] Crow#5457
what about counties?


[22-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Same.


[22-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically state constitutions would hav to say "the local gov'ts get these powers" to undo this.


[22-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's how it works at the federal level.


[22-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The constitution says any powers congress doesn't hav are reserved for the states.


[22-Jun-20 10:40 PM] Crow#5457
and what about police departments refusing lawful orders and basically becoming miniature insurrections?


[22-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
State pretty much needs to call in the National Guard if they refuse to be arrested by other police.


[22-Jun-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then you can have a FFA where sheriff's department, city police, county police, state police, and national guard all claim jurisdiction over the same area


[22-Jun-20 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You forgot the most vengeful of them all: the HOA


[22-Jun-20 10:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
have your turf war, but make sure that turf's grass is 1.25" or else


[22-Jun-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
ARE THOSE WEEDS SLIGHTLY TOO HIGH, NEIGHBOR OF COLOR :glowing_eyes:


[22-Jun-20 10:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
UNEVENLY MOWED LAWN, JERRY, YOUR TIME IS UP


[22-Jun-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
SUBDIVISION? WE CALL THAT COMMUNISM AROUND HERE.


[22-Jun-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
My parents got screwed over by one of those.


[22-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Our house had a yard like 2 acres big.


[22-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
YOU INSTALLED TAUPE ROOF TILES IN A RUST RED ROOF TILE ZONE


[22-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they wanted to subdivide to rent out the huge grassy field of pointlessness.


[22-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOA said it would be an eyesore.


[22-Jun-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
The field on one side is blokked by the house.


[22-Jun-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the other by a row of trees unnaturally tight together *and* a brikk fence.


[22-Jun-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Across the street is a nursing home and only one house that can sort of maybe see the field at an angle.


[22-Jun-20 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Respect your elders, nebbie


[22-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
HOAs don't include nursing homes.


[22-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
can't believe Nebbie's family wanted to tank the property value of their neighbours by... adding property


[22-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There are some states that pass laws that say no minimum wage in cities can be higher than the state minimum


[22-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If the state minimum wage is 9.25, cities can't raise it above that


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, cities can't ban plastic bags


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the local *tea party* is behind said ban.


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate the idea of environmentalists gaining footing.


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
A HOA boardmember just hit a lady for trying to see what they were spending her money on


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So all the shitty counties full of hicks and cheap housing vote to keep the minimum wage down, nice


[22-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think my state tried to say cities couldn't forbid firing workers for being gay.


[22-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
But that one didn't go thru.


[22-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_EA231E_DA

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HOA gone wrong?
Homeowners accused Board of misspending HOA money.
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[22-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Moot anyways cause of federal law, now.


[22-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Pole-o-tics at its finest


[22-Jun-20 11:05 PM] jlun2#8758
meeting of old white men


[22-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HOA gone wrong (gone sexual) (police called) (almost died)


[22-Jun-20 11:09 PM] jlun2#8758
> almost died
they're all white they're fine

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[22-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't stop them from killing eachother tho


[22-Jun-20 11:33 PM] ononim#8141

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[22-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are there T-34s alongside modern soldiers on a street, I lack much context


[22-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
russian parade


[22-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they showing ww2 era tanks cause russia won


[22-Jun-20 11:36 PM] jlun2#8758
Russian terminators


[22-Jun-20 11:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but there is also a new military vehicles alongside


[22-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought v-day was months ago


[22-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup but it was delayed due to covid


[22-Jun-20 11:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ah, right


[22-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Jun-20 12:03 AM] jlun2#8758
boomers approve


[23-Jun-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
ready for 4 more years of orange?


[23-Jun-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
king of boomers


[23-Jun-20 12:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
Is this the fabled AnarchoFascism?

https://www.axios.com/white-supremacist-terror-attack-army-715ce949-e183-4109-a1e6-e3e89b05c41b.html

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"As alleged, Melzer was motivated by racism and hatred as he attempted to carry out this ultimate act of betrayal."
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[23-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Honahue#0656
stonks


[23-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Honahue#0656
wait no


[23-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Funeral stonks.


[23-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
donks


[23-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-20 12:42 AM] illumnious#7938
nice one crow


[23-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Honahue#0656
kek, one of the guys I served with dad actually had a funeral home in Florida and yes they did good business and there are also death seasons too


[23-Jun-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say funeral homes are making a killing but they're probably spending a lot of money in refrigeration because they can't embalm or incenerate fast enough

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[23-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Honahue#0656
or just leaving them in a storage garage somewhere


[23-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Honahue#0656
shits happened before


[23-Jun-20 12:44 AM] jlun2#8758
so its not just "New York Disease" anymore?


[23-Jun-20 12:48 AM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-20 12:52 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I hate this state, so so much

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[23-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think that's half the people in the state


[23-Jun-20 12:56 AM] jlun2#8758
the boomers you hate?


[23-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The other half live in retirement villages


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Half is retirement, half is on drugs


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And I'm in the Alabama part with both :bored:


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Honahue#0656
those on retirement are on drugs too


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
are the ones on drugs also die-hard anti-drug voters?


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah there's a lot of overlap


[23-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh definitely


[23-Jun-20 12:58 AM] jlun2#8758
:isee:


[23-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Honahue#0656
once you hit retirement doctors are just like "whatever you don't have to go to work have some Oxy"


[23-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Cry about people being in welfare and doing drugs while they are also on welfare for the last 20 years because of a shoulder injury and just smoke pot all day for it


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] jlun2#8758
> smoke pot
wait, I was thinking injections


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Saying how they're really glad that they have Trump right now, otherwise we'd be fucked


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
smoke pot?


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah that too


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
nah, opioids


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
both


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Opiods too


[23-Jun-20 01:00 AM] jlun2#8758
inject cannaboids?


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
very dangerous


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Tweakers and opioid addicts are real common here


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
why inject when you can very safely parachute instead


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
I knew a guy injected 4 whole marajhuanas


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
died


[23-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They come in every day and put money on their green dot cards


[23-Jun-20 01:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Or fail because they have 13 of the damn things and can't figure out which one is current


[23-Jun-20 01:02 AM] jlun2#8758
green dot cards?


[23-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Prepaid cards


[23-Jun-20 01:03 AM] jlun2#8758
ah


[23-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They have reloading fees and they're intended to be used like a checking account that has reloading fees and monthly fees


[23-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They're used when they burn their finances so much they can't open a checking account


[23-Jun-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
how the fuck do you even get that degenerate


[23-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Poor control over their money, lots of overdrafting


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
>poor control over their money


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah but boomers are bottomless money bags


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
how'd that happen


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
> degenerate
pretty sure they'll go & claim their not since they believe in the lord & savior


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The people around here are mega poor


[23-Jun-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
are they religious too?\


[23-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Lots of homeless, lots of broken people


[23-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh fuck yeah they are


[23-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
People try to talk to me all the time about it, how beautiful faith is and how much god has helped them through hard times, as they're reloading a prepaid card and scratching their arm from opioid withdrawal


[23-Jun-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
you ever get a horny heroin junkie


[23-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Not yet


[23-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If I still wore skirts to work I'd probably get more


[23-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Skirts get all the thirsty people out of the woodwork


[23-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, and we sell so much plan B and not very many condoms


[23-Jun-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
Google claims
> Heroin tends to reduce sex drive and the ability to have an orgasm
from <https://www.verywellmind.com/what-heroin-effects-feel-like-22047>


[23-Jun-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
also whats plan b


[23-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Morning after pill


[23-Jun-20 01:12 AM] jlun2#8758
so tons of stds then?


[23-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
"abortion pill" but that's not how it works


[23-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Uhh, not sure


[23-Jun-20 01:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I have only seen a little bit of herpes


[23-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Obviously I can't tell for the rest but we don't sell that much UTI-related stuff (which is what people usually think of first if they can't get a doctor)


[23-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Then again feminine hygiene isn't my section so maybe there's just a lot of theft of it and not much buying


[23-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What a nice state you live in! /s


[23-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Eeeyup


[23-Jun-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 spontaneous orgasms are a side effect of heroin withdrawal


[23-Jun-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
huh. ty


[23-Jun-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
so they use drugs, while also wanting to crack down on it without harm reduction :isee:


[23-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So when I see 📈 on Florida for covid 19, I am completely unsurprised


[23-Jun-20 01:16 AM] jlun2#8758
i wonder is it mostly young & minorities, or boomers too


[23-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Between idiocy, negligence, the government, and all the tourism, this state was doomed from the start


[23-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This area has mostly older poor people


[23-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Mix of races, mostly the same drugs


[23-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Not a ton of pot


[23-Jun-20 01:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(judging from who comes in the pharmacy)


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
btw is the drug problem making them more conservative?


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/503979-viral-video-shows-woman-holding-confederate-flag-at-blm-protest

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A video went viral on Monday showing a woman holding a Confederate flag at a Black Lives Matter protest in Missouri and telling demonstrators, “I will teach my grandkids to hate you all.”
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[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HEY


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HOORAH


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HEY


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
HOORAH


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MISSOU-RAH


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> having kids
:wheeze:


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And yeah a lot of vets that were them good ol boys with mega prejudice


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] jlun2#8758
im too poor for them


[23-Jun-20 01:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's just the area, the drugs aren't the problem


[23-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's just a religious area and that leans conservative


[23-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And a poor area so people get desperate and make bad decisions


[23-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also damn that video


[23-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's not gonna come to bite her in the ass later, nope


[23-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Branson is in Taney County


[23-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Named after the guy who decided _Dred Scott_


[23-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their mayor is named Karen.


[23-Jun-20 01:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Beautiful


[23-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have you _seen_ the video


[23-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvD55ppDJSw

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Heath Goetsch
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I WILL TEACH MY GRANDKIDS TO HATE YOU!
RACIST WHITE WOMAN SUPPORTS KKK WHILE PROTECTED BY POLICE GEORGE FLOYD PROTEST
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[23-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All white, MAGA hats, confederate flag, pickup truck, country music, protected by white cops, cheers for the KKK… yep


[23-Jun-20 01:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
provoked like a frilled lizard


[23-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Suck on this"


[23-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yup, it's an amazingly racist area it seems


[23-Jun-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay in fairness to scalies let me find a different joke


[23-Jun-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*This is the true power of the KFC double down*


[23-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also promoted as a family vacation pot


[23-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Branson is where washed up entertainers go


[23-Jun-20 01:33 AM] jlun2#8758
> Also promoted as a family vacation pot
"Come gawk at our neo-nazis now for only $2.99/day!"


[23-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And you know, Yakov Smirnoff


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on that note, apparently Hilton Head island is responding to the BLM protests by trying to get rid of all the plantation-related names on the island


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Southern heritage and southern pride is so fucking hilarious


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is good, considering the history of hilton head


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What the fuck does it even mean


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's weird thinking about what would have happened to Missouri had the South won


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it would have been split, honestly


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It means they think social status is genetic


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just let the Southern half go and call it Ozarkia or something


[23-Jun-20 01:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is just a long way around to saying white nationalism


[23-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"It's not about racism"
_Then what is it about?_


[23-Jun-20 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's about pretending the other version of history doesn't exist, you know, the one that mentions that what they were doing was racist


[23-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remove racism from "southern values" and you have...?
Drunk cousin fuckers in dirty wifebeaters complaining about the price of gas?


[23-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything that Southern culture can rightfully be proud about is basically stolen from black people


[23-Jun-20 01:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let me put it this way: It's a simulacrum. It's what all modern pop country music is celebrating by taking random bits of southern comfort and jamming them together without rhyme or reason and passing it off as genuine


[23-Jun-20 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like someone who misinterpreted the phrase "peaches and gravy" to be a real dish involving canned peaches and brown gravy


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[23-Jun-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
These days, I believe they've rewritten history so that what the confederates were fighting for was defending honor and protecting state's rights (which obviously involve who gets to vote, and post-heller gun ownership)


[23-Jun-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I guarantee you not one of them has stopped to break down the word "confederate" linguistically


[23-Jun-20 01:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If Trump wins even with mail in is it still rigged?


[23-Jun-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If trump *loses* it's still rigged. By claiming it will be rigged, he can now claim this no matter the outcome


[23-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'll probably claim he defeated the rigged liberals at their own game and won the vote anyway


[23-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's a huge amount of work for 1 vote, with high risk. Very little vote fraud by mail actually happens


[23-Jun-20 01:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, what kobold said


[23-Jun-20 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, since 2016 in earnest but for a very, very long time the Republican strategy has been to gaslight people into thinking that electoral fraud doesn't exist. All election fraud must be voter fraud


[23-Jun-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everything about every decision he makes is about re-election, it has been since day one of his presidency


[23-Jun-20 01:48 AM] jlun2#8758
0D chess :bigbrain:


[23-Jun-20 01:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony & that 180 degree flip is rationalized by boomers right


[23-Jun-20 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not a flip


[23-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
> Over the past 20 years, they write, more than 250 million ballots have been cast by mail nationwide, while there have been just 143 criminal convictions for election fraud related to mail ballots. That averages out to about one case per state every six or seven years, or a fraud rate of 0.00006%.


[23-Jun-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ah you see, that just means republicans are going to latch on to the word "convictions" and cry COVERUP


[23-Jun-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's what they'd do


[23-Jun-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, again, it doesn't matter whether or not real voter fraud is statistically significant or not. As has come up many times before, it exists at all and therefore it must be punished, according to the GOP


[23-Jun-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(so long as it's the liberals that are getting punished)


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[23-Jun-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I especially like the pin


[23-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Pompeo’s accusation reflects Cold War mentality, spreads ‘political...
Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Monday that China continues to oppose groundless accusations by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and urged him to stop spreading
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[23-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Monday that China continues to oppose groundless accusations by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and urged him to stop spreading "political virus."


[23-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The Global Times (simplified Chinese: 环球时报; traditional Chinese: 環球時報; pinyin: Huánqiú Shíbào) is a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper"


[23-Jun-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
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Long time conservative liberal here. The Marxist Democratic agendas...
I realized that the Democratic institution is a wolf in sheep’s clothing after 10 years. I used to be an absurdly left person who was also trying...
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[23-Jun-20 02:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> conservative liberal
so he just wants gay weed


[23-Jun-20 02:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this mans got a bigger brain than John Bolton


[23-Jun-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
This is so thorough it feels like a trollpost


[23-Jun-20 02:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and if it is, they totally bit the bait


[23-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
> Also, recently, after many years of therapy, had a realization that my bisexual tendencies were something of a mental illness.


[23-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, this seems like some kinda karma grifting post


[23-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/hdiup5/long_time_conservative_liberal_here_the_marxist/fvli6mv/>


[23-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
> Glad to be back. Will vote for Trump this time around. I hate the fact I have to vote for him, but hopefully a more fitting Republican candidate will show up during the next couple of years right?
> 
> I hope you can respect that I don’t think Trump is a great person.


[23-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
orrr you can vote for biden, then vote for the next republican...?


[23-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
this definitely seems like someone who's karma whoring


[23-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'd vote for anyone at this point if it's not trump and I thought they'd win


[23-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If only to change things up


[23-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
or some kinda e-social experiment


[23-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
e-disharmony


[23-Jun-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
christian dingle


[23-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you obviously have never been to the south teaspoon as that's a very ignorant thing to say.


[23-Jun-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
>he lived in texas


[23-Jun-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[23-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well then he never paid attention to southern culture then.
also Texas culture is slightly different than the rest.


[23-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
West Texas during summers working at a ranch


[23-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only culture I could determine as being different than rural areas anywhere else is: iced tea, rifle rack in every truck, say Hi to every one you see or you'll get dirty looks


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
so where did you normally live at other than working in west texas?


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Texas isn't really part of the south


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Aurora


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's just.. Texas


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Texas is the south that the rest of the south pretends to be when they're trying to convince the rest of the country they've solved racism


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Auora IL?


[23-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Co


[23-Jun-20 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(by which I mean Houston, Austin, and Dallas. Let's be honest, there's a couple degrees of separation between most of Texas and the heart of Dixie and just as many between most of Texas and the big cities)


[23-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
southern culture is based around family, food, and music. those are the three central pillars that southern culture is mostly based around.


[23-Jun-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
you forgot the racism 😃


[23-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the rest of the country doesn't have those things


[23-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you can find that anywhere byte that's not a exclusive southern thing


[23-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Sunnyside#3103
besides most people are mixed race around here


[23-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You cross the Mississippi and suddenly you're orphaned, hate music, and all you can cook is spam and white bread sandwiches with skimmed milk


[23-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not exactly teaspoon but southern cooking is different.


[23-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Sunnyside#3103
based off of classical french inflaunces


[23-Jun-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don;t forget the massive amount of homophobia


[23-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the music is different based off of acapella, zydaco, and other things.


[23-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, and elsewhere it's based off dutch, english, german, italian, or slav influences


[23-Jun-20 02:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, because they *always* cite the french influences when like 99% of creole stuff is from the people that were owned

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[23-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It ain't special


[23-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
creole cooking is not the same as classical french


[23-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just dressing slathered on top of the real values


[23-Jun-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well wait, I'm sorry, are we talking about 5-star michelin restaurants or are we talking about southern comfort?


[23-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
classical french cooking is based off the french that migrated to the states during the french revolution.


[23-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
heck you could argue rock music had part of it's origins from the south.


[23-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Elvis Presley was one of the early pioneers of rock and roll after all.


[23-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Getting dangerously close to admitting rock music came from blacks, so that won't happen or will just be washed over


[23-Jun-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
HOT DIGGITY DAMN son did you just suggest that Elvis Presley invented rock music in the south


[23-Jun-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know what Elvis did, right? He took the "black" music that was real popular with black folk at the time and made it palatable for white folk too


[23-Jun-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
none of his sound is his own


[23-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
nah there's a lot of great African american singers that help found rock and roll. 
again like I said Elvis was just one early pioneer


[23-Jun-20 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as?


[23-Jun-20 02:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
History died on the toilet.


[23-Jun-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You gonna tell me he pioneered pelvic thrusting, too?


[23-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Are you?


[23-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the point i'm making is southern culture be it anatbellem or post has a lot to value. to disregard it is to be ignorant of a whole group of people and values.


[23-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Sunnyside#3103
which isn't fair to them


[23-Jun-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve met people in the south, (does north carolina count as southern) a lot of the stereo types are true. and most of them had a gun fetish that bordered on the extreme with a shit ton of sexism, racism, and homophobia
I'm convinced they;d have been wav ing around confederate flags if it weren;t a college campus


[23-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you remove racism and the cuisine choices from southern culture, it's primarily about how to talk to people.


[23-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southerners like to beat around the bush and exchange pleasantries a lot, rather than being direct.


[23-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe they shouldn't attach their culture to pro-slavery icons, personalities, and a flag created specifically to promote white supremacy


[23-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
They see northerners actually discussing issues openly on first meeting as outright repugnant.


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I need you to understand something here. The sound of Elvis Presley traces its roots back *decades* but that kind of thing was relegated to "that [black] music." It's like saying eminem pioneered rap music. Yes, his sound is original and inimitable, and yes he's responsible for making it go mainstream outside of the culture that developed it, but he was far from the first to spit verse over a beat


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They were very pleasant people until politics and hunting came into play


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about preserving the cultural hierarchy.


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
very pleasant people *to each other


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If people are upfront with issues, then suddenly the guy with an estate and shittons of money might get called out for being a callous bitch who just dances the dance at social meetings.


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyway
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[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tim Fool at it again


[23-Jun-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minute i said i did not enjoy hunting, i was an outcast to them


[23-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a big deal with southern culture as well.


[23-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone's supposed to agree to do the same things socially.


[23-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you say you don't like something and won't do it, you are rejecting the social contract.


[23-Jun-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
southern hospitality is reserved for the homogeneous folk


[23-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i've never encountered that nebbie. there's a wide range of opinions around here like anywhere else.


[23-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and most all of them get buried when you go to someone else's house or your own dinner table.


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
have you been to the south much nebbie?


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might get shared privately, but the idea of actually having a real discussion with different opinions isn't gonna fly in most places.


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in the south


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm in Montana, we get a lot of southerners who come here to escape the heat.


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Sunnyside#3103
from what i can gather you haven't traveled much out from your own place.


[23-Jun-20 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
From what I can gather, neither have you


[23-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why don't you tell me what the hell southern culture is, and why it shouldn't be completely obliterated from existence?


[23-Jun-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my community college was a central hub for travelers from all over north carolina


[23-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause as far as I'm concerned, traditions hold no fukking value.


[23-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Artwork like music holds some value, but it's not what's at issue here.


[23-Jun-20 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For that matter, how old are the traditions you're trying to uphold?


[23-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, cuisine based around overloading on fats and sugars holds negative value.


[23-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i think i already explained the basics to teaspoon already


[23-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cuisine is primarily a functional matter, what people eat matters for their health.


[23-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
food is a art


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
at least that's the common belief done here


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
All you talked about was cooking and music.


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You mentioned family, food, and music...but what food? What music? What does a traditional southern family look like?


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those aren't what's at issue.


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
new york style pizza is a neat dish but it tells me nothing about what new york is


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the fukking racism and support of racist institutions that's the problem.


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i already explained food is based partly off of classic french cooking


[23-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does that cooking require a confederate flag as ingredients?


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do states' rights need to be around to make the broth work?


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the south is quebec?


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In other words, what's the other part


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does music like Elvis need us to worship confederate monuments?


[23-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
now nebbie you can't say one culture is completely invalid just because you don't like what some people in that culture did.


[23-Jun-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the south are not the french


[23-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there you go with ignoring the argument to claim faulty generalization.


[23-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You havn't established a single reason to keep this shit around.


[23-Jun-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
based on french cuisine means nothing for their culture


[23-Jun-20 03:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He didn't say he didn't like what they did. He just said tradition doesn't hold value to him


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've just said that there might be collateral damage to...cooking recipes? from trying to stamp out racism.


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm actually okay with that.


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less heart disease and obesity and type 2 diabetes please.


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If people in Bavaria started dressing up in swastika flags and when asked about it would say "no, it's about classic bavarian cooking and folk dancing, it has nothing to do with nazism", _there'd be questions_


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you aren't talking at all about "southern hospitality", the thing I brought up.


[23-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think the South behaves like the North in terms of hospitality and conversation, or do you not know?


[23-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The information I'm aware of strongly suggests Southern culture is focused on your "face" in society and treating conversing very tenderly and indirectly.


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
southern hospitality is certainly warmer and more open than opposed to northern.


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean by warmer, and more open?


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
southerner's i've found to be more direct but polite


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can you give an example?


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Directness is to my knowledge extremely undesirable in Southern culture.


[23-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
how can i give a example of something that's everyday interaction


[23-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav a neighbor who has let his pigs get into your yard


[23-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
do you confront him right away?


[23-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or do you chat about stuff for 2 hours first?


[23-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and how does this differ from in the North?)


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes. you would tell him about the pigs and then once they are rounded up have the two hour chat. you may even have the chat while working together rounding them up


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You shoot the pigs


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then don't talk to eachother for a month


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's the Texas/Montana approach.


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
To my understanding, in places like Louisiana you'd hav the 2 hour chat first.


[23-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you wouldn't shoot the pigs here. they are a important livestock


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in New York, you would come in and yell at the guy.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bruh


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, when I think of southerners being polite, I think of the phrase "bless his/her heart." Which is just a free pass on saying negative things about someone. We don't say things like that, because we don't beat around the bush


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Farmers will shoot first and ask questions never.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody near us had pigs


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that'd be a bad farmer then


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
My mom was raised on a farm and my aunts hav been known to shoot dogs.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And cattle were always kept well


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, that's a successful farmer.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sheep, though


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They cross lines they die


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
stray dogs yes


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not strays.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Sunnyside#3103
not their pigs though


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stray dogs you have to


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neighbor dogs that start harassing your animals.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those get a bullet.


[23-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Feral dogs kill anything they see for sport


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you shoot the neighbor's dogs and you'd have a irate neighbor


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
With over 5 acres of land?


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He never finds the body.


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
just where do you live where you shoot the neighbor's pet?


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rural areas.


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dogs aren't pets, they're tools


[23-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, "pet" is a bit of a stretch for dogs in such areas.


[23-Jun-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rural farmland areas


[23-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You maybe have one or two dogs someone in the family's taken a liking to that's kept around the house


[23-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As for cats, you don't even count them


[23-Jun-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my family is the outlier on dogs, we treat them as pets to be loved, other neighbors around here don;t really do that outside of a small handful


[23-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you have chickens, you just have a load of them around to take care of minor vermin


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
My grandma has a ton of cats right now.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone abandoned cats near her.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twice.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the second time, the cat was pregnant.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
8 kittens.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good news considering my grandma has a low success rate with raising cats.


[23-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the last 3 died before they were a year old.


[23-Jun-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my parents have a lot of cats due to foster failures during their cat rescue run


[23-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, said mother cat is about 8 months old.


[23-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cats breed fast.


[23-Jun-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-executive-order-work-visas-immigration-2020-6

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[23-Jun-20 03:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/22/white-lives-matter-banner-manchester-city-burnley-plane

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[23-Jun-20 03:40 AM] jlun2#8758
how do people get these pics

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[23-Jun-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
did they just record everything, then look back hours of footage & took the most interesting


[23-Jun-20 03:46 AM] AaronMk#4499
Photographer probably keeping an eye open. Often times the rule is not to get the most clearly factual image, but the most dramatically factual; so to speak. You could take a picture of the general scene and that'll show what is happening, but it wouldn't make a greater header image or a hook like the headline. And as a photographer you take hundreds or thousands of images. 99% may be trash, but that's because you also want the gold and something usable might turn up.

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[23-Jun-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
So they might take a couple general pictures of the conference then start scouring for the dramatic compositions and play a game against one another to find the drama winning shot.


[23-Jun-20 03:47 AM] AaronMk#4499
Everything else may fall into dressing up the article itself.


[23-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Photojournalist's camera take 10 shots a second and they just spam hold that "shoot" button any time anyone so much as flinches


[23-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In this case I guess one of them noticed the vampyr in the background and focussed on him for a few seconds


[23-Jun-20 03:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Press briefings be like.
*Clack Clack Clack Clack Clack Clack Clack* 📸


[23-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thank goodness film no longer needs silver


[23-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also I am _convinced_ Miller uses that spray can hair stuff you see on TV


[23-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
^ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Vvt4W0IGE>


[23-Jun-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie wait. is it fine to eat dogs in your area then?


[23-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[23-Jun-20 04:02 AM] jlun2#8758
oh well


[23-Jun-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-police-shut-down-scene-after-protesters-try-to-haul-down-andrew-jackson-statue

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[23-Jun-20 04:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They are pulling against each other in that pic.

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[23-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't hit us with a cane now can you huh


[23-Jun-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they really aren't, the people are closer to the photographer than the statue is


[23-Jun-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it isn't an optimal angle to be sure, a lot of the force vector is still being cancelled


[23-Jun-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but as you can see, there happens to be a bush in the way of where the "optimal" statue-tipping spot is


[23-Jun-20 04:10 AM] AaronMk#4499
> Photojournalist's camera take 10 shots a second and they just spam hold that "shoot" button any time anyone so much as flinches
@Teaspoon 

Any cammera can do this. My generations old Canon Rebel can do this. Hell: both can and they are comparatively ancient compared to what exists today. Probably less so simple point-and-shoots but you should still be able to set shutter speeds to be able to slam shots.

But it could be assumed at this point in political photojournalism the practice of watching the ghouls in the background is standard practice as an insight into what is happening in the administration. The TV cammeras are all on Trump or the president or the Speaker and so on. If you are there with your still cammera, your next direct line of competition is the background drama.

Maybe it's a post West Wing thing.


[23-Jun-20 04:18 AM] illumnious#7938
from a different server
I found a post on reddit that I think is pretty interesting to discuss
For every 1,000 black arrests, 3 are killed. For every 1,000 white arrests, 4 are killed.

2017 FBI UCR: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43… 2018 FBI UCR: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43… 2017 Police Shootings: https://washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/… 2018 Police Shootings: https://washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/police-shootings-2018/

Source 1: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43 Source 2: https://www.theroot.com/heres-how-many-people-police-killed-in-2017-1821706614 Source 3: https://www.diversityinc.com/data-police-disproportionately-killed-black-people-2017/

Using just these sources, I will disprove outright that the claim that police disproportionately kill blacks. To do this, I am going to compare populations. I will not do the dishonest thing, and compare total populations. Rather, I will compare criminal populations. This is an important distinction, because it completely sidesteps dishonest arguments based on the per capita population, because no population is made entirely of criminals except the criminal population.

According to the FBI, the total number of arrests in 2017 was 8,162,849. According to The Root, the total number of people killed by the police in 2017 is 1,129. We are going to add those together to get a total attempted arrests, presuming that any incident that ended in death would have otherwise ended in arrest. This total is 8,163,978.

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[23-Jun-20 04:25 AM] AaronMk#4499
There is also more whites than blacks so proportionately the statistics don't work out. Since even if there were more white deaths than blacks per the population of whites over blacks the rates between arrests and deaths is still far lower.


[23-Jun-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
for all I know there's an infinite amount of whites
||I know it's not infinite ok its how i feel||


[23-Jun-20 04:28 AM] AaronMk#4499
In America, people who identify as "white" on the census account for 72% of the population. Blacks 13%. If statistics were to be comparable per something like "per thousands" of a demographic, whites would need to be targeted for arrest or death six to seven times more than blacks, or blacks the same number less; according to my bar napkin math.

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[23-Jun-20 04:29 AM] AaronMk#4499
What this statistical proposition seeks to prove is really just Mark Twain's oft quoted assertion on statistics: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damed lies, and statistics"


[23-Jun-20 04:48 AM] illumnious#7938
second half: 
1129 is 0.0138290427% of 8163978, or ~0.014%. That is 14 in 100000. That puts your odds of surviving any arrest at ~99.986%.

According to the FBI, in 2017, blacks were arrested 2,221,697 times. According to DiversityInc, blacks made up 27% of people killed by police. Please note, they do not give a number, but a percentage. 27% of 1129 is 304.83, or ~305. Adding those deaths to the arrests, we get 2,222,002.

2222002 is 27.2171483069% of 8,163,978, or ~27%.

Please note the proportions. 2222002 is 27% of 8,163,978. 305 is 27% of 1129.

These numbers are proportional. Blacks are not being disproportionately killed by the police. 305 is 0.0137263603% of 2222002. Please recall that 1129 is 0.0138290427% of 8163978. Blacks are actually killed slightly less than the total percentage. But those percentages are both ~0.014%, or 14 in 100000. Black criminals have a nearly equal survival rate as the total survival rate. In fact, their chances are slightly better.

In conclusion: blacks made up ~27% of the total crime, and ~27% of the total death. The odds of surviving a police encounter were ~99.986% in total. The odds of surviving a police encounter were ~99.986% as a black person.
(Some links don't work for some reason, probably because they've been shortened and cut. Unfortunate)


[23-Jun-20 04:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The "I didn't compare total populations so this comparison is fair" is misleading because his premise is that the police aren't disproportionately killing blacks, but then twists that in the process of building his logic


[23-Jun-20 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what his data *actually* shows is that once the police are out to get you, your odds of survival are about the same


[23-Jun-20 04:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
The entirety of this post is still defeated by how it's still operating off of "x out of 1000 interactions" or whatever


[23-Jun-20 04:53 AM] AaronMk#4499
And not accounting for the differences of proportion


[23-Jun-20 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it neatly sidesteps the whole point in that, well, blacks are disproportionately *targeted*


[23-Jun-20 04:54 AM] AaronMk#4499
And entirely neutralizes the size of relative populations and basically assumes either population is 50% of the whole, or so; plus or minus a few percentage points


[23-Jun-20 04:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and since the data clearly shows that they're disproportionately targeted, a point he glosses over, they're disproportionately killed. Because he has very neatly concluded that once your odds are down to arrest or death, then the mortality rate's about the same


[23-Jun-20 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This would be like if every time you ate fugu fish, you had a minor but consistent chance of dropping dead on the spot. And yakuza bosses consumed 27% of all fugu fish served...what you'd find is that an disproportionately high number of yakuza bosses were dying from neurotoxins


[23-Jun-20 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it wouldn't be out of the question in this example to suggest that maybe the yakuza should quit eating so much fugu fish


[23-Jun-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But how can you prove you're hardcore if you don't play russian roulette?


[23-Jun-20 05:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
much better analogy. You have a group who disproportionately comprises 27% of the people playing RR overall, and this guy comes along and proves they're not dying disproportionately because all revolvers used to play russian roulette have six chambers


[23-Jun-20 05:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a word for burying a premise like that


[23-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is it "burying the _lead_" (in grey matter)?


[23-Jun-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
snuck premises


[23-Jun-20 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[23-Jun-20 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
timecode relevant


[23-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sorry but I can't look at Ben without giggling a little


[23-Jun-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
go right ahead


[23-Jun-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
ben shapiro is a trap????? EXPOSED

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[23-Jun-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He looks like an aged up Dennis the Menace


[23-Jun-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
`burying the Pb`


[23-Jun-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
as opposed to burying the lede


[23-Jun-20 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was the joke <simpsons screencap>


[23-Jun-20 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, people do this all the time


[23-Jun-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Start the discussion by placing your opponent as defending an indefensible position


[23-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their only moves are to try and backtrack your premise, opening for all sorts of attacks on their character for not wanting to discuss things properly, or carry on and fail miserably at trying to refocus attention on the real issue because you're always on the offensive


[23-Jun-20 05:26 AM] wren#0114
wow that sounds familiar


[23-Jun-20 05:26 AM] wren#0114
:twismug:


[23-Jun-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[23-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[23-Jun-20 05:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Really, really, really makes you think

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[23-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was talking with people about this a few days ago


[23-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A _quarter of a million people_ die every year from medical malpractice


[23-Jun-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At _least_


[23-Jun-20 05:36 AM] wren#0114
does that include getting infections in a hospital in general


[23-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd imagine it's more wrong diagnosis, left tools inside someone, sliced an artery, overdosed someone, etc.


[23-Jun-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Including infections, unless blatant, idk


[23-Jun-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I get that but the _third leading cause of death_


[23-Jun-20 05:42 AM] wren#0114
a lot of people can't afford that method of death


[23-Jun-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking do rich americans fly to other countries for surgery too, or just middle class ones


[23-Jun-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd say they do it more


[23-Jun-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rich Americans really don't need to


[23-Jun-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if it's some exotic plastic surgery


[23-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rich Americans can get what they want


[23-Jun-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for medically necessary stuff, though, they fly the doctors to *them*


[23-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The "exotic" plastic surgery is like, butt implants that are made of recycled tires or something


[23-Jun-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And rich people don't do that


[23-Jun-20 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you sure about that?


[23-Jun-20 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If I told you there was footage of a celebrity whose butt implant flipped inside out, you probably either know exactly who I'm talking about or you aren't sure because there's more than one


[23-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think I've seen a photo of that but can't recall who


[23-Jun-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably a "celebrity" with not enough money  for a real implant.


[23-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Google provides a lot of photos


[23-Jun-20 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, yes, one of the examples is someone who became a celebrity over the botch job


[23-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when TLC was "The Learning Channel"


[23-Jun-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why would anyone do this to themselves


[23-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just slide in a sack of god knows what in there

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[23-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That deserves a pin


[23-Jun-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't offer this as an answer to most body mods, but in this instance mental illness does explain quite a few of the more...distorted examples


[23-Jun-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Either dysmorphia or a literal addiction to plastic surgery, or both


[23-Jun-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like the cat people


[23-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone found a monkey's paw and wished for catgirls


[23-Jun-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, they didn't get a girl. They got dennis avner


[23-Jun-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, wait, no, there's jocelyn wildenstein


[23-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"She once calculated her yearly telephone bill at $60,000 and food and wine costs at $547,000"


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wildenstein received $2.5 billion in her divorce settlement and $100 million each year for the following 13 years. The judge stipulated that she could not use any alimony payments for further cosmetic surgery."


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
this is _completely real_


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
holy shit


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't you remember when Daniel Tosh aired pony porn


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[23-Jun-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
remind me


[23-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=relfPGVADHM

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He makes le internets butthurts n stuff
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[23-Jun-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess at some point censors go "It's too cartoony to be porn"


[23-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or some other rationalization


[23-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not the first cartoon dick or even realistic dildo on LWTwJO


[23-Jun-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A dildo is just a comedy prop on TV


[23-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or on any non-porn thing


[23-Jun-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To quote idubbbz when he got sent a dildo: "I don't know what you guys expect me to do with these things."

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[23-Jun-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I guess it was 158653


[23-Jun-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
854541


[23-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>*These Tweets are protected*


[23-Jun-20 06:13 AM] Marukomuru#8409
How are you gonna throw heat in that hashtag and then close up shop


[23-Jun-20 06:15 AM] byte[]#2610
just look it up on e6 I guess


[23-Jun-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so jim jordan leaked the news, but is going to "respectfully object?" Sir, you have already forfeited your chance to do anything respectfully here


[23-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
They subpoenaed him last year too and he said "get fukd"


[23-Jun-20 06:26 AM] byte[]#2610
so idk what makes them think it'll go differently this time


[23-Jun-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess to constantly keep Trump's admin in the news cycle as suspect and refusing to cooperate


[23-Jun-20 07:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 09:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I found articles on Weibo saying that vaccines are poisons for a "secret nazism plan" that lead by Bill Gates


[23-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes


[23-Jun-20 09:16 AM] Yuri#4154
Vaccines are a ploy to inject you with 5G tracking microchips that give you autism /s


[23-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
According to a lot of people Bill Gates created COVID-19 in order to force people to be vaccined and be implanted with a surveillance chip + eugenics virus


[23-Jun-20 09:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Before that I've only heard of some American saying vaccines are poisonous


[23-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I am, unfortunately, _not_ joking in how that's a belief a lot of people hold


[23-Jun-20 09:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now Chinese are believing this


[23-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't know Bill Gates was even known there


[23-Jun-20 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Bill Gates is one of the "100 greatest people in history" according to our children's book


[23-Jun-20 09:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
He's also the only one who is alive in these 100 persons


[23-Jun-20 09:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Since Hawking dead


[23-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
huh


[23-Jun-20 09:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway the Chinese version of the rumor also says curing corona only need some Chinese medicines


[23-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not surprised


[23-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Americans will never tolerate taking a vaccine made in China, or even Europe probably


[23-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Half the country would literally rather die


[23-Jun-20 09:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But aren't all the vaccines made by America, by Bill Gates?


[23-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If a Gates linked company comes up with a vaccine then the number of people refusing to take it would only drop by half


[23-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still a quarter of the country


[23-Jun-20 09:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The one who in charge of "wiping out 80% trash population in China" by using "nuclear plants, vaccines, gene modify and homosexuality"


[23-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Democrats could probably play eugenics just by claiming the vaccine, _regardless of where it came from_, was created in a Bill Gates funded lab set up in China and distributed by a George Soros multinational corporation


[23-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Half the US conservative population would never take any vaccine if you make up enough fud about it that fits their idiotic conspiracy theories


[23-Jun-20 09:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China certain sorts of vaccines are free and forced to take


[23-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Same as in Europe


[23-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tetanus, polio, one of the hepatis, some other ones


[23-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meningitis, some other ones


[23-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All kids have to get them


[23-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Measles, that's the one I forgot


[23-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kid's not vaccinated for that, they're not allowed in schools


[23-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except England


[23-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because of course, England


[23-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where every year some school or college gets a bunch of people infected


[23-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Idiots


[23-Jun-20 09:37 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The number of daily infected of corona in America raised up again. It perhaps won't stop in this whole goddamned 2020


[23-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It won't


[23-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gonna keep going up


[23-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Synfag#9241
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[23-Jun-20 10:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Obvious satire


[23-Jun-20 10:54 AM] Yuri#4154
That literal hundreds of people on Reddit didn't get


[23-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
@byte[] @Itsthinking one time some Comedy Central show had a trivia bit about vore, and they used pony SFM vore porn as the example of what it is. Specifically, the one where Twilight gets launched out of a party cannon into Trixie's butt. This was like their third-to-last episode as well.


[23-Jun-20 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[23-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Based on what he said about it being too disturbing to play, but no explanation why, it's likely that this was a sort of "well we're canceled anyways" decision.


[23-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite the way to shitpost on TV.


[23-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, as far as censorship goes, it's late nite on Comedy Central. They can show things like Drawn Together, which has outright sex and masturbation.


[23-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just hav to do something to not make it too porn-like etc.


[23-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not just it being cartoony, but also that we don't see much detail of the actual sexual acts. They can basically go full R-rated, just not NC-17.


[23-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A bit old but gold https://twitter.com/grosdoriane/status/1131996074011451392

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This is NOT what America is about. America is about *opens history book*

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[23-Jun-20 11:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccSM9RTbmS0 I was given this video as an example of why cops need guns

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[23-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns would not hav spared Officer Kelly of his injuries (both officers had guns, but they were slow on the draw).


[23-Jun-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the guy that shot him apparently got a traumatic head injury in high school, resulting in constant paranoia and a tendency to become violent at random.


[23-Jun-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interestingly, the guy himself indicated he expected officers to try to talk him down.


[23-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the prison sentence he got was...a little ridiculous. Of course, in that kind of area, a blakk guy that shoots a cop is lukky to not get the death penalty.


[23-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the judge even specifically noted such, that if Officer Kelly had died, Clary would be executed instead of getting a 110-year sentence)


[23-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and the cops were stopping him to chekk if he was drunk...or at least that's the story. There was no evidence he was.


[23-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way, the whole situation REEKS of racism, @prism stryder(intexda)


[23-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just so happens that this time, the blakk guy due to damage incurred by society previously, was a paranoid dysfunctional guy, so he kept a gun ready, and when the officers pulled him over for being blakk, he decided to use it, and then of course the system deemed him not white and therefore not crazy.


[23-Jun-20 12:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/23b9351079a84d639ed531c94058d355/Man-who-shot-trooper-in-roadside-battle-gets-up-to-110-years ah, here;s the article

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EASTON, Pa. (AP) — A man convicted of attempted murder for opening fire on two Pennsylvania state troopers during a traffic stop last fall was sentenced Friday to up to 110 years in prison. Daniel Clary, 22, shot and critically wounded 13-year veteran Cpl. Seth Kelly, who was ...
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[23-Jun-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/a36ac8c2b3edf7f9c41f850e945c32e8

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[23-Jun-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-stops-most-coronavirus-temperature-checks-2020-6

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[23-Jun-20 03:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@AlchemistLiang the anti-vaxxers are now in China?ew. I wonder how will China crack that down


[23-Jun-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 03:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Man ends racism (2014)


[23-Jun-20 03:47 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[23-Jun-20 04:53 PM] Crow#5457
well yeah, human males kinda evolved to like human females of any kind over hundreds of thousands of years of literally raiding and murdering competing tribes for their females


[23-Jun-20 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
it's why videos of people attacking women evoke powerful emotions, there's still a strong instinct and cultural drive to protect "our" females


[23-Jun-20 04:58 PM] Crow#5457
even if the survival aspect of it is no longer relevant


[23-Jun-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
it's supposed to evoke powerful emotions?


[23-Jun-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I never experienced that


[23-Jun-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gamer


[23-Jun-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
you've never seen a video of someone getting beaten up for seemingly no reason and gotten mad about it?


[23-Jun-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50

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[23-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
there's been a bunch of social experiments with men seemingly abusing women and women seemingly abusing men, people smile and laugh about the man being abused, but get all pissed off when there's a woman being abused


[23-Jun-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
though I'm not sure if it has to do with the fact it was a male abusing a female (men are stronger, so it's seen as bullying) or not


[23-Jun-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
they'd have to check with a female abusing a female and a male abusing a male to be sure


[23-Jun-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
> you've never seen a video of someone getting beaten up for seemingly no reason and gotten mad about it?


[23-Jun-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
plenty of times


[23-Jun-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
but the person's gender never mattered


[23-Jun-20 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
so you've never noticed any increased anger over a woman being beat up vs a man being beat up? in a side by side comparison


[23-Jun-20 05:21 PM] Crow#5457
tbh now that I think about it, I can't say I have either


[23-Jun-20 05:22 PM] illumnious#7938
> plenty of times
@byte[] it don't have to be a video about it


[23-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
there's supposed to be some instinctual thing where humans are quick to defend females way faster than males


[23-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
though it could also be cultural


[23-Jun-20 05:22 PM] illumnious#7938
Beleive me I saw it before


[23-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-20 05:43 PM] Crow#5457
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[23-Jun-20 05:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-confirms-he-pushed-officials-slow-down-covid-19-testing-2020-6

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"I don't kid," said when asked to clarify whether or not he had been joking when he said he called for testing to be slowed down.
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[23-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Hmmm polo-ticks


[23-Jun-20 06:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Poloshit


[23-Jun-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pile-o'-ticks in a man suit


[23-Jun-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Ha


[23-Jun-20 06:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Also https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1275437716830687234?s=19

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[23-Jun-20 06:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro I don’t think that’s gonna stop them


[23-Jun-20 06:29 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I think it’ll fuel them in all actuality


[23-Jun-20 06:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/j0hnnyxm4s/status/1275271166509416448?s=21

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TIL it’s tradition for local police to visit and shoot up Fred Hampton’s grave. Here is his son visiting it for Fathers Day.
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[23-Jun-20 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
the fuck


[23-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wait what the holy fuck


[23-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ


[23-Jun-20 06:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't look like it's a tradition for that many, but certainly one of those things they purposefully don't care about


[23-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/clairewillett/status/1266894029498675200

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not to be the white asshole who just got here five minutes ago & is already like "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS, GOD, MEGAN," but in researching my book I learned some stuff history class omitted which might be helpful to other white folks, specifically about Fred Hamp...
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[23-Jun-20 06:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/clairewillett/status/1266897435470598144

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And the only reason we know that these things were carefully-crafted tactics is that in 1971 a group of white activists broke into an FBI field office in Pennsylvania, stole a bunch of documents and revealed the existence of the then-secret COINTELPRO operation to the public....
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[23-Jun-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/clairewillett/status/1266897998182617088

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So even seeing literal FBI documents saying "HEY, LET'S CONVINCE EVERY WHITE PERSON THAT THE BLACK PANTHERS ARE A BUNCH OF DOMESTIC TERRORISTS LOL" didn't UN-convince white people that the Black Panthers were a bunch of domestic terrorists, because it still FELT TRUE
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[23-Jun-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that facts don't care about your feelings


[23-Jun-20 06:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/fcukeveryname/status/1267327154691338242?s=19

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fuck trump
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[23-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/clairewillett/status/1266905434679463936

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it cannot be overstated that THE ONLY REASON THE COUNTRY EVENTUALLY LEARNED THAT THIS WAS BULLSHIT was because two years later those people broke into the FBI office and leaked all those COINTELPRO documents that revealed all the details of the murder plot.
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[23-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/clairewillett/status/1266907194164785152

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that feeling of "i mean I don't like racism either, but do they have to be so AGGRESSIVE about it?" 

that message was focus-grouped and finely-crafted and distributed through whisper networks and has soaked into the air you breathe and the water you drink, by your government...
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[23-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
> that feeling of "i mean I don't like racism either, but do they have to be so AGGRESSIVE about it?" 
> 
> that message was focus-grouped and finely-crafted and distributed through whisper networks and has soaked into the air you breathe and the water you drink, by your government.


[23-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Crow#5457
they're putting chemicals in the water that turn the freaking whites racist!


[23-Jun-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
like seriously, you don't need to make up conspiracy theories about the government, there's real shit they did that's already plenty wild


[23-Jun-20 07:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Have you guys seen the news of the big earthquake in Mexico?


[23-Jun-20 07:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I doubt if I could live through 2020 even more


[23-Jun-20 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
that happens fairly regularly


[23-Jun-20 07:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Jun-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/504103-melania-trumps-spokeswoman-slams-inappropriate-and-insensitive-comments-about

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Melania Trump's spokeswoman slams 'inappropriate and insensitive co...
Melania Trump's spokeswoman rebuked Food Network host John Henson after he implied in a tweet that President Trump is not Barron Trump's father.
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[23-Jun-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cue virtue signaling about not attacking kids


[23-Jun-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-slams-media-not-putting-positive-spin-botched-coronavirus-response-2020-6

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Trump criticizes the 'Fake News' for refusing to put a positive spi...
More Americans have died under Trump's watch in 115 days than all of the combat deaths in US wars since 1945 combined.
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[23-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/503967-nypd-commissioner-officers-who-drove-into-protesters-did-not-violate-use

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NYPD commissioner: Officers who drove into protesters did not viola...
The New York Police Department (NYPD) commissioner on Monday defended the officers who drove into anti-policy brutality protesters late last month, saying they did not violate the department’s use-of-force policy.
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[23-Jun-20 08:03 PM] byte[]#2610
The cruelty is the point


[23-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
huh, the hill (or disqus) has gotten rid of upvote/downvoting comments


[23-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists are more community-active and tend to brigade.


[23-Jun-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
the fascists were typically the ones who got downvoted to shit on the hill


[23-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
now the comments are unreadable, it's just a hodgepodge of fascists saying it's okay to run people over and regular people saying it's wrong to run people over


[23-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's likely there was brigading on certain articles, so they shut it all down.


[23-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/tjhansen/status/1266901184515883008

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@AOC @rob_bennett @NYCMayor Two SUVs. It's worse than the original video looks
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[23-Jun-20 08:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People defend brigading pretty strongly


[23-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've talked with people for example who think they should be able to mass downvote certain tags


[23-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because that's them expressing their opinion that they hate all of it


[23-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the freeze peaches argument.


[23-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Crow#5457
🧊🍑


[23-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascists want a platform to broadcast, and will get very annoyed when such is taken from them.


[23-Jun-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[23-Jun-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cursed diplomacy


[23-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wew


[23-Jun-20 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_me steals your car_
"Hey, remember how you used to be able to go places? Well come on over and rent this car I happen to own now"


[23-Jun-20 08:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-woos-hong-kong-business-as-abe-cools-to-china-11592479725

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Japan Woos Hong Kong Business as Abe Cools to China
Japan is laying out the welcome mat for Hong Kong-based financiers as China moves to erode Hong Kong’s autonomy through a new security law. . But Beijing is seeking to reassure the international businesses being recruited by Tokyo.
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[23-Jun-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/missouri-gop-candidate-claims-george-floyd-died-in-2016-and-video-showing-him-choked-was-a-deep-fake/

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Missouri GOP candidate claims George Floyd died in 2016 — and video...
Winnie Heartstrong, a Republican candidate for Congress in Missouri’s First Congressional District, is claiming that George Floyd was not actually killed by former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, but instead died four years ago. “George Floyd is dead! He died in 2016...
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[23-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/504120-the-first-amendment-may-be-safe-but-free-expression-is-not

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The First Amendment may be safe, but free expression is not
The spirit of democracy depends on providing citizens the opportunity to talk through their differences. It cannot survive if citizens are too fearful to divulge what they really think.
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[23-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet another article about the "problems" of free speech


[23-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Today, the nation’s democratic discourse is threatened less by a shift in the government policy—though, frankly that’s at issue too. What’s happening in the wider culture should be of real concern. None of us are obligated to befriend a racist or invite a bigot over for a picnic in the backyard. But free expression doesn’t exist de facto if expressing an opinion at odds with the prevailing view of either the left or the right leads to dire, immutable consequences.

The spirit of democracy depends on providing citizens the opportunity to talk through their differences. It cannot survive if citizens are too fearful to divulge what they really think."


[23-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
how the fuck do you "talk through" discriminating against certain people due to their skin color?


[23-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
this is some third way bullshit


[23-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This article is basically "Don't be a snitch"


[23-Jun-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"How dare person disagree with my opinion and do thing"


[23-Jun-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Person should be forced to do thing because I like thing"


[23-Jun-20 09:17 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8436715/Iran-rocked-honour-killing-woman-bludgeoned-death-father-coming-home-late.html

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Iran rocked by another honour killing as woman murdered by father
Reyhaneh Ameri, 22, from Kerman in Iran, was allegedly murdered with an iron bar as a punishment for arriving home late the night before. Local media say she survived for nearly 24 hours after the attack.
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[23-Jun-20 09:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
America: \*General widespread chaos\*
Iran: "Hold my beer"


[23-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doubt it'll generate much chaos at all tbh


[23-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
that's the norm for iran


[23-Jun-20 09:48 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-uk-trade-deal-boris-johnson-eu-transition-market-access-a9580731.html

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Japan tells UK to agree to Brexit trade deal in six weeks or face d...
Britain could be pressured into bad deal to replace EU’s agreement with east Asian country
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[23-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And unlike UK, Japan won't take three years to actually enforce this


[23-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtF5THjCu0M

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[23-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Synfag#9241
so they made the most ridiculous white supremacist stereotype
then basically isekai'd him into his worst nightmare


[23-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...speaking of which, did Brexit happen yet?


[23-Jun-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[23-Jun-20 10:31 PM] illumnious#7938
https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/22/president-trump-reportedly-will-sign-executive-order-temporarily-suspending-work-visas-for-h-1b-holders/

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President Trump signs executive order temporarily suspending work v...
President Donald Trump signed an executive order temporarily halting work visas like the H-1B visa program for highly-skilled workers, cutting off a critical source of foreign labor for tech companies already complaining about tech talent shortages. Visa-holders already in the...
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[23-Jun-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
so remote work push when


[23-Jun-20 10:32 PM] illumnious#7938
:ponkthonk:


[23-Jun-20 10:32 PM] illumnious#7938
:PepoThink:


[23-Jun-20 11:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504173-trump-family-asking-court-to-block-publication-of-nieces-book

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Trump family asking court to block publication of niece's book
President Trump's family is asking a court to block the publication of his niece’s tell-all book, which is set for next month.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald3_06232020getty_0.jpg


[23-Jun-20 11:31 PM] byte[]#2610
why?


[23-Jun-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because: “Her attempt to sensationalize and mischaracterize our family relationship after all of these years for her own financial gain is both a travesty and injustice to the memory of my late brother, Fred, and our beloved parents,” he said. “I and the rest of my entire family are so proud of my wonderful brother, the president, and feel that Mary’s actions are truly a disgrace.”
Donald Trump's younger brother Roger has an issue with the book and probably how he;s portrayed in it


[23-Jun-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm sure his sister will chime in at some point


[23-Jun-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
?


[23-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bloodborne reference no one understood


[23-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just gonna


[24-Jun-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump's siblings are bringing his neices book up with the courts because it;s revealing and they don;t want their dirt spilled


[24-Jun-20 12:03 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You know where that dirt would have been real useful? That joke of an impeachment trial


[24-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[24-Jun-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Not like it would have done anything


[24-Jun-20 12:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Though it will probably provide evidence to several ongoing investigations


[24-Jun-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kut.org/post/they-shot-all-us-austin-medic-recalls-weekend-police-violence-amid-peaceful-protests

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'They Shot All Of Us': An Austin Medic Recalls A Weekend Of Police ...
Lee esta historia en español. Liz Brake had a long day Saturday. A lot of people did. One could argue the entire country did . As a volunteer medic on the
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[24-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/noose-found-in-bubba-wallaces-garage-was-there-since-2019-feds-say.html

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https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/noose-found-in-bubba-wallaces-garage-was-there-since-2019-feds-say.html
Noose found in Bubba Wallace’s garage was door pull, had been there...
No federal crime was committed, said U.S. Attorney Jay Town.
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[24-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
> The FBI learned that garage number 4, where the noose was found, was assigned to Bubba Wallace last week. The investigation also revealed evidence, including authentic video confirmed by NASCAR, that the noose found in garage number 4 was in that garage as early as October 2019. Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week.


[24-Jun-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[24-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I hate to be *that guy*, but


[24-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponkthonk:


[24-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
wot


[24-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i suspected that it was likely something mundane


[24-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump shot himself in the foot when he threatened to put Bolton in prison and then shot himself in the other foot when he called Bolton a lier. Trump is so unhinged


[24-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So uh


[24-Jun-20 12:38 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why is the APD being a bunch of assholes


[24-Jun-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Because there is nothing stopping them from not doing so right now


[24-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0ad_nS2Hw&t=215

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NASCAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0ad_nS2Hw&start=215
GarageCam: Walk through the Camping World garage at Talladega
Take a peek inside the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series garage at Talladega Superspeedway.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lN0ad_nS2Hw/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
is there an image of the noose that was found in wallace's stall?


[24-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
apparently it was the noose part of the door pull, it was cut off at some point


[24-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyL4UoX2Nqc&t=53

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Rowdy Maglite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyL4UoX2Nqc&start=53
In Garage at Talladega superspeedway
Pre-practice
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[24-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot bigger than the ones in the first video


[24-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I'd say the investigation ended prematurely, seems like whoever is in charge of assigning garages might've assigned wallace to it knowing that the door handle of this particular garage had a large noose on it


[24-Jun-20 01:19 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[24-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
but that sort of thing is a lot harder to prove than someone breaking into the garage and putting a noose in it


[24-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Crow#5457
that's the point of the southern strategy, after all


[24-Jun-20 01:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-price-transparency-rule-covering-hospitals-upheld-11592945973

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Trump Administration Price-Transparency Rule Covering Hospitals Upheld
The American Hospital Association lost its legal bid to stop the Trump administration from requiring hospitals to disclose secret rates they negotiate with insurance companies, a victory for President Trump’s health policy.
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[24-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've seen a lot of pull ropes line that


[24-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And chances are the people that assign who gets what garage have no idea what the interior of the garage looks like, just that it's free and inspected or whatever


[24-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, maybe someone should have noticed it and thought about it, but if it's been there for 9 months, it's at chest height, and not wide enough to fit someone's head in... people just become blind to "interpretations" of it outside of what it really was


[24-Jun-20 01:30 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I should've mentioned that it's pretty unlikely that whoever assigned the garages intended to do that, I'm just mentioning it as a possibility


[24-Jun-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
it certainly doesn't seem like a jussie smolett kind of thing


[24-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/725120843855691857/image0.png

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[24-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
definitely


[24-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Raptorshy#6268
1000 hours in ARK, so I can police dinosaurs :D


[24-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
1.1K hours in Killing Floor 1


[24-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
finding out it takes 3 years of training to become a police officer in norway and an actual 3 year degree to become an officer in finland was completely wild for me


[24-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think it's one of the more extreme examples


[24-Jun-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think spain you need either a "professional training" degree or a 2-3 year college minor, and then 2 years academy


[24-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>police academy


[24-Jun-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't fool me, that's just a place where you learn funny noises


[24-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Can't fool me, that's just a place where you learn furry noises

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[24-Jun-20 02:07 AM] AaronMk#4499
3-4 thousand in TF2. I think


[24-Jun-20 02:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
988 Hours in Warframe. I am the space police now.


[24-Jun-20 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
I am the FBI director of the Badlands


[24-Jun-20 02:13 AM] AaronMk#4499
And INTERPOL


[24-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogpGBUfSc0

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Vocal Synthesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogpGBUfSc0
Nelson Mandela reads the Navy Seals Copypasta (Speech Synthesis)
Join the subreddit associated with this channel at https://reddit.com/r/VocalSynthesis

The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Nelson Mandela. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2...
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[24-Jun-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
And the CEO of Antifa?


[24-Jun-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
:tempsurprise:


[24-Jun-20 02:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So this is a poll on another pony server.
https://www.strawpoll.me/20421366/r

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https://www.strawpoll.me/20421366/r
Tolerance of Anthro Art Based on Political Leaning
Vote Now! [Left leaning and positive opinion on anthro art] [Left leaning and negative opinion on anthro art]
http://www.strawpoll.me/images/poll-results/20421366.png

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[24-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems more a poll on left/right than anything else


[24-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, right-wingers aren't pro or anti furry, they just are more likely to know the terms, likely out of a moral need to concretize stances on everything.


[24-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man


[24-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All those tumblr memes from 3+ years ago that get replies with "I can't breathe" because they're laughing so hard

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[24-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone is def. going to screencap something to start drama


[24-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or someone outside the US blissfully unaware of all the recent stuff is going to use the term in that "old" context and get absolutely vandalized


[24-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Don’t fool me, that’s just a place where you mean how to kill while labeling a accident.


[24-Jun-20 02:36 AM] wren#0114
anthro bad

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[24-Jun-20 02:41 AM] wren#0114

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[24-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Crow#5457
"I can't breathe" as a slogan is derived from eric garner in 2014, not george floyd


[24-Jun-20 02:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
>the prophecy
Police have been at this for a long time. 
It was relevant then and remains so now.


[24-Jun-20 02:47 AM] jlun2#8758
>>2381964
derpi is on news now i guess?


[24-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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Uploaded 4 hours ago by Fragata.


[24-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
A shitty article by someone who shouldn't be called "journalist".


[24-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PUJs0Q9nyogJ:https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2020/05/21/journalists-are-angry-about-layoffs-at-the-atlantic-owned-by-billionaire-laurene-powell-jobs/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d

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https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PUJs0Q9nyogJ:https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2020/05/21/journalists-are-angry-about-layoffs-at-the-atlantic-owned-by-billionaire-laurene-powell-jobs/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d
Journalists Are Angry About Layoffs At The Atlantic, Owned By Billi...
Her net worth is up $3.1 billion since mid-March.
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[24-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of their articles basically align to PROBLEM EXISTS WHERE YOU DO NOT EXPECT, AND NOW IS SUDDENLY CONFRONTED.


[24-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta farm clicks fast


[24-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep. "Technology" writer, but all she does is articles about memes and websites.


[24-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying "Engineering" writer because someone does articles about airline flight attendants.


[24-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She also asked anyone who was talking about it in any way for an opinion.


[24-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
HELLO ARE YOU THE REAL xXJEWGASSERBUTT421Xx? etc.


[24-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
hello yes this is the real crow


[24-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
caw

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[24-Jun-20 03:05 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://youtu.be/ZvTxZFPtTfI

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Zero Books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvTxZFPtTfI
Black Marxism after George Floyd
Cedric Johnson is associate professor of African American studies and political science at the University of Illinois at Chicago and editor of The Neoliberal Deluge: Hurricane Katrina, Late Capitalism and the Remaking of New Orleans (University of Minnesota Press, 2011).

In t...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZvTxZFPtTfI/sddefault.jpg


[24-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/
'My Little Pony' Fans Are Ready to Admit They Have a Nazi Problem
Even a niche subculture built around magical cartoon horses is reckoning with racism.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/BZU4aCPk5a6z6qrnOZULFF7tQbQ=/0x43:2000x1085/960x500/filters:format(png)/media/img/mt/2020/06/myLittlePony/original.png


[24-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
saw this article


[24-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
shame they didn't interview more people than just wootmaster


[24-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Posted already, a little bit ago


[24-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I would've been happy to have shared my opinion if asked.


[24-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They just want their clicks, they already got them so they're good


[24-Jun-20 03:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:twinoose:


[24-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They interviewed a lot of people, @Sunnyside


[24-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And with a lot of questions


[24-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They only cared about the answers that were inline with the article they wanted to write


[24-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
well i wish i knew where they were doing the interviews


[24-Jun-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's not the point, man


[24-Jun-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're fishing for answers and wouldn't have used your interview unless it agreed with the point they were trying to make


[24-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i know that. i just like giving interviews though


[24-Jun-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've seen this same thing happen: Tyra Banks sends out word that she wants some furries on her show, brings on only the ones who are like WE'RE PERVERTS LOOK AT US


[24-Jun-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so that she and her audience can point and laugh


[24-Jun-20 03:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Did they contact derpi staff?


[24-Jun-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[24-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They may as well not have


[24-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did they include much at all?


[24-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[24-Jun-20 03:35 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
Now hold up here


[24-Jun-20 03:36 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
Nazis?! What the hell?


[24-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who were "the owners" they talked to


[24-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They asked us a bunch of questions, we gave them a bunch of answers, they ignored everything but 5 words total out of a thousand to build up their narrative


[24-Jun-20 03:36 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
Oof


[24-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They wanted to write what they wanted to write


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Email them and complain


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
you should have just not responded


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
at all


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Bothering to ask us (and then tossing everything we said into the bin) was just  procedural


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I cba giving it more attention myself


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a hackjob by a hack


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a liar at that


[24-Jun-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I would think someone who actually cared would have actually included our version of events. since, you know, authoritative, we started this.


[24-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I disagree, you've got to correct them to some degree


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any official comment on the article is just a free excuse for them to repost it with an update and further the narrative


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They weren't genuine to start with why the hell would they be more any more so in a second round


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] jlun2#8758
has anyone sent any hate mail claiming you're nazibooru yet


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
we don't get a lot of hate mail


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] jlun2#8758
huh.


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] ツ『FalcoDash』ツ#9776
Good


[24-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We don't get a lot of communication in general


[24-Jun-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
we get fairly little mail overall


[24-Jun-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
dammit


[24-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People prefer to complain about us in places we don't monitor than actually speak with us


[24-Jun-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it is kind of telling that when I locked down a public comments thread and asked people to send us email with concerns, only one person did at all


[24-Jun-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
for some reason I expectd tons of angry parents demanding this to be shut down due to just glancing at headline & thinking "this site is making our kids nazis"


[24-Jun-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
really makes ya thonk


[24-Jun-20 03:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
That site's font is a pain in the eye to read.

The part about derpi

"In an email, the owners told me that the presence of white nationalists in the My Little Pony fandom is “unfortunate.” They insisted that they have always tried “to act against content [that] displays genuine racist intent on behalf of the poster,” adding “we have not always been as strict as we would have liked to be.” They also clarified that the removed images would be gone only temporarily, because of the moderation headache the images have been causing. They will later be restored to the site, the owners said, “as an artifact of the moment.”

Moderation is always complicated, but never more so than when a community is unsure of what it wants to be or what it’s willing to play host to. Derpibooru’s tiny policy change has led to an uproar in the site’s forums, and disgruntled users insist that it will lead to “a purity spiral,” or a slippery slope to “censorship” and “authoritarianism” (the standard set of arguments that come up in every major moderation dispute, which tend to conflate site rules and deplatforming with government crackdowns on free speech). Meanwhile, supporters of a stricter content policy point out that the update is toothless, and will do almost nothing to curb racism on the site."


[24-Jun-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
TSP, should I cap what we actually sent them?


[24-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure


[24-Jun-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610

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[24-Jun-20 03:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I see they left plenty out.


[24-Jun-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610

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[24-Jun-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
and probably the most important part

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[24-Jun-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
do you see how I would be upset that they twisted what we said into a tacit endorsement of real life racism?


[24-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
May as well post the whole thing on the site I guess


[24-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[24-Jun-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not going to do that


[24-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm pretty disgusted at the lack of integrity from the "reporter"


[24-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that she outright lied to us


[24-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, we should complain


[24-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Treascair#7785
I mean... there's legit grounds for libel...


[24-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The reporter gained revenue for them, complaining will do nothing


[24-Jun-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
reposting on the site just furthers the drama


[24-Jun-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
you can repost it in the politics general


[24-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And yeah, don't further the drama


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
I think that would be fine


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
since that place is already a dumpster fire


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
People will gloss over it in about 3 days


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
would european libel laws apply to an american publisher?


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
er


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
wait I got confused


[24-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
I mean the atlantic


[24-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't think so


[24-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody is going to extradite for a libel case


[24-Jun-20 03:52 AM] PwnyPony#6185
If it was posted on the site the maga hats would have a melt down over commie derpi mods. :equality:


[24-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
they already do that though


[24-Jun-20 03:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
such is the natural state of the maga hat


[24-Jun-20 03:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i legitimately think that reading the font on that site has damaged my eyes. I am finding it hard to even read on discord right now.


[24-Jun-20 03:54 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[24-Jun-20 03:57 AM] soundtea#9032
People will find some other dumb thing to be mad at in less than a week


[24-Jun-20 03:57 AM] soundtea#9032
Atlantic will post some other dumbfuck thing for clicks


[24-Jun-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oh yeah some staff at derpibooru have said they dislike nazi bronies, therefore the problem of nazis in the brony fandom has been solved"


[24-Jun-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Problem solved, everyone, go back to whatever you were doing"

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[24-Jun-20 04:20 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/nick-news-race-alicia-keys-1234646301/

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Nickelodeon to Revive ‘Nick News’ for Special on Race Hosted by Ali...
Nickelodeon is bringing back “Nick News” for an hour-long special about children, race, and unity. The special will be hosted by Alicia Keys and is meant to amplify the voices and exper…
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[24-Jun-20 04:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
SpongeBob fans gonna have to admit to a racism problem now too.


[24-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nick News was interesting


[24-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mcmiag/status/1275611184683679749

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RACCOON CITY PONYCON (@mcmiag)
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4chan didn't decide to racially code the otherized witch doctor pony as black & Honest Hardworking Applejack as a rural white american southerner tho. That came from the show. The fish rots from the head. 

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[24-Jun-20 04:29 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
That is if only the soccer moms will not say "You're teaching something like this to young children it's bad for them"


[24-Jun-20 04:29 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Referring to Nick News


[24-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nick News was one of those pre-Spongebob things


[24-Jun-20 04:32 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
It ran until 2015.


[24-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn, didn't realize


[24-Jun-20 04:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What does nick have now that isn't SpongeBob?


[24-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Loud House


[24-Jun-20 04:35 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
In addition to those two, they've been experimenting with Netflix-only Nick originals


[24-Jun-20 04:38 AM] jlun2#8758
miraculous ladybug


[24-Jun-20 04:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
So I was looking to buy the Assassins creed games and noticed that one game was missing across all the digital platforms. even U Play itself. The HD version of Assassins creed 3: Liberation.
The one game that let you play as a woman that was black. :squintyjack:

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[24-Jun-20 04:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
you can actually check this for yourselves. there is still a steam page for the game but it is delisted.


[24-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://store.steampowered.com/app/260210/Assassins_Creed_Liberation_HD/

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Assassin’s Creed® Liberation HD
Introducing Assassin’s Creed® Liberation HD, the striking chapter of the pre-American Revolution Assassin’s Creed saga which arrives for the first time on HD consoles and PC. With improved gameplay, a deeper story, and HD graphics, Liberation is an immersive and full Assassin’...
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[24-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
?


[24-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Crow#5457
it's still there


[24-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Crow#5457
still available to buy and all that


[24-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking what the hell is the point they're trying to make?


[24-Jun-20 04:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I search on the steam launcher and it does not come up.
Have to google it.


[24-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Coding AJ as southern and Zecora as blakk isn't racist in and of itself, the entire point of Zecora's intro ep is to *not* be racist against blakks.


[24-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It reeks of them just wanting nobody to say anything about race.


[24-Jun-20 04:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Reviews say it is unplayable because of an online service that is not available anymore.


[24-Jun-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Bridle Gossip was a horrible episode


[24-Jun-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
and Applejack is a horrible stereotype of a character


[24-Jun-20 04:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's it a single player only game too. :twinoose:


[24-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, but it wasn't a horrible episode cause of the message.


[24-Jun-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the moral is fine


[24-Jun-20 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
but the episode is fucking ridiculous


[24-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was horrible cause Faust was like "sure just hav her do gibberish if you can't get Swahili" and everything's weirdly heavyhanded yet subtle.


[24-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just do the translation convention and make ponies less prone to believing that someone intends to eat children.


[24-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
WHY IS THE FIRST ASSUMPTION OF STRANGERS PALLING AROUND WITH CHILDREN THAT THEY WANT TO EAT THEM?


[24-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I tell you, a lot of bad shit must go down pretty often in Equestria.


[24-Jun-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the characters literally blow up ponyville every third episode


[24-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Granted, in a later season ep a giant bird comes and tries to eat both Zecora and Rarity.


[24-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But why assume people actually partaking in society are eating children?


[24-Jun-20 04:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie i thought americans think every stranger is a child predator tho


[24-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, but America also has a big problem with child sexual assault.


[24-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just usually isn't a stranger.


[24-Jun-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
hey uncle, what are we gonna do on the bed?


[24-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
.qa @byte[] hey uncle, what are we gonna do on the bed?


[24-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**byte[]**:  hey uncle, what are we gonna do on the bed?).


[24-Jun-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uncles in Equestria: "Oh, actually, we're gonna do something in the kitchen..."

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[24-Jun-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If she isn't president or VP within a decade I'll be amazed.


[24-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which race is this?


[24-Jun-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NY's 16th.


[24-Jun-20 05:18 AM] byte[]#2610
16th congressional


[24-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy.


[24-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We won't know Kentucky's Dem Senate primary results for a week, but McGrath and Booker are super close.


[24-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No results from Louisville or Lexington.


[24-Jun-20 05:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Louisville was the county with one polling place)


[24-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it looks like a few progressives are primarying moderates


[24-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, that could bakkfire, but nice.


[24-Jun-20 06:29 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275646453432684546?s=19

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[24-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McGrath will still probably win and then lose to McConnell, but whatever.


[24-Jun-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
North Carolina is the real longshot, people just like the idea of the Senate majority leader losing in an election year


[24-Jun-20 06:38 AM] jlun2#8758
McConnell forever :ts_cry:


[24-Jun-20 06:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://i.imgur.com/fUoOptC.jpg

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[24-Jun-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[24-Jun-20 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
How do they even get away with this what the fuck


[24-Jun-20 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
They didn't


[24-Jun-20 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
But like
It *keeps* happening


[24-Jun-20 07:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
This is far from their first time doing this shit


[24-Jun-20 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody knows statistics except dishonest people


[24-Jun-20 08:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I had to stare at it for a while to notice the 🤏 4000 confirmed in middle


[24-Jun-20 08:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, not just how do they get away with it but how does this happen in the first place


[24-Jun-20 10:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/cr4gpabflr651.jpg

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[24-Jun-20 10:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Big brain conservative finally figured it out


[24-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/status/1275411828143722499

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[24-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-hides-from-police-car-george-floyd-lebron-james-connecticut/

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A 10-year-old boy was shooting hoops in his driveway when a cop car...
"I didn't know what and still don't know what to say to him to make it better," his father said.
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[24-Jun-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, kids may not understand all the intricacies, but they often see the plain truth in things and know what's up.


[24-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/23/21300282/senate-democrats-police-reform-booker-harris-schumer-mcconnell

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Senate Democrats say the Republican police reform bill is "not salv...
They’re now poised to sink the legislation during a vote on Wednesday.
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[24-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, Republicans want to just make token gestures about "gathering data", not actually change anything at all.


[24-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/17/21284527/systemic-racism-black-americans-9-charts-explained

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The systemic racism black Americans face, explained in 9 charts
Longstanding inequalities have led to the current wave of protests.
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[24-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[24-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.wbrc.com/2020/06/22/noose-found-garage-area-nascar-driver-bubba-wallace/

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FBI: Video evidence shows noose found in garage of Bubba Wallace ha...
“Although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week.”
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[24-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
“The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime. The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall. This was obviously well before the 43 team’s arrival and garage assignment. We appreciate the FBI’s quick and thorough investigation and are thankful to learn that this was not an intentional, racist act against Bubba. We remain steadfast in our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all who love racing.”


[24-Jun-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-test-sites-ending-funding-5-states-2020-6

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The federal government is ending funding for coronavirus test sites...
Funding for 13 test sites expires June 30, and federal officials are not extending it. It comes as Trump said he asked officials to scale back testing.
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[24-Jun-20 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-wins-primary-beating-wall-street-backed-michelle-caruso-cabrera-2020-6

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The 30-year-old incumbent faced her toughest challenge from former CNBC correspondent Michelle Caruso-Cabrera, a former Republican.
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[24-Jun-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The federal government will stop funding and support for 13 coronavirus testing sites in five states on June 30, despite the US seeing a new surge in cases, according to reports from Talking Points Memo and CNN.
> 
> The 13 closing testing sites are located in Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado, and Pennsylvania. They were set up early on in the outbreak by the federal government to amp up testing capabilities and take some of the burden off local and state governments.
> 
> Funding for these test sites expire on June 30, and federal officials have decided not to extend it.
> 
> The reports come after President Donald Trump said over the weekend that the US' high infection rate was a result of widespread testing, and said he had asked officials to start scaling back testing in response.
> 
> In a later tweet he added that "cases are going up in the US because we are testing far more than any other country."
> 
> "With smaller testing we would show fewer cases!" Trump tweeted.


[24-Jun-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/06/23/reckless-kelowna-rcmp-officer-seen-dragging-stepping-on-head-of-nursing-student-during-wellness-check/

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'Reckless' Kelowna RCMP officer seen dragging, stepping on head of ...
RCMP officer dragged a young woman by the arms and stepped on her head during a wellness check in Kelowna earlier this year.
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[24-Jun-20 01:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With how so many "wellness checks" end with someone brutalized or murdered you'd think they changed the name


[24-Jun-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/504220-gop-warns-against-ramping-down-coronavirus-testing

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GOP warns against ramping down coronavirus testing
Senate Republicans are warning that it’s too soon to scale back testing amid an increase in coronavirus cases.
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[24-Jun-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/921784/phoenix-pd-declares-peaceful-protest-outside-trump-event-unlawful-assembly

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Phoenix PD declares peaceful protest outside Trump event unlawful a...
Hundreds of protesters gathered in a free-speech zone outside of the Dream City Church in Phoenix on Tuesday afternoon, demonstrating against President Trump as he spoke to supporters inside.
At about 4:30 p.m., the Phoenix Police Department declared that the peaceful protest ...
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[24-Jun-20 03:25 PM] jlun2#8758
> Senate Republicans are warning that it’s too soon to scale back testing amid an increase in coronavirus cases.
huh. I thought they would love to see it scaled back given more deaths :equality: 📈


[24-Jun-20 04:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
so unusual to see politician with nice boobs :twismug: 
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/725301369245925396

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[24-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[24-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The black nascar driver wasn't the one that thought it looked like a noose


[24-Jun-20 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone else did and he got told about it by the president of nascar, after they'd already called the FBI


[24-Jun-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53162280

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Brooklyn Nine-Nine bins episodes after Floyd death
The US police comedy will "start over" and reflect the anti-racist movement, one of its stars says.
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[24-Jun-20 05:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[24-Jun-20 05:49 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok, I choose Trump


[24-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
No, you have to choose a woman for the presidency. We have to be Progressive™


[24-Jun-20 05:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:twismug:


[24-Jun-20 05:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Let Trump transgender then


[24-Jun-20 05:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Preferably lgbt+ woman.


[24-Jun-20 05:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It says that Trump is going to slow down the testing... Is it fucking serious?


[24-Jun-20 06:03 PM] CrystalCat#1332
> Let Trump transgender then
@AlchemistLiang The hell does that even mean?


[24-Jun-20 06:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I personally understood him pretty clearly.


[24-Jun-20 06:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also he is from China.


[24-Jun-20 06:05 PM] CrystalCat#1332
So?


[24-Jun-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@AlchemistLiang  yes it is, and he;s actually backing up his head burying by ordering federal funds to stop going to testign facilities


[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
13 for now, probably more later


[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What testing does btw?


[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN8IzzX7KPE

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[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
covid testing


[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I know


[24-Jun-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it tells us who has covid


[24-Jun-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if thye have covid they can seek treatment


[24-Jun-20 06:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder though if it is not dangerous to go to places filled with people having symptoms though?


[24-Jun-20 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They likely hAVE A  system in place for that


[24-Jun-20 06:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There were also places starting to do home tests


[24-Jun-20 06:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I visited my place and it was just a corridor with some benches and medical workers wearing plague suits


[24-Jun-20 06:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh it made me feel like I shouldn't try my luck there since if I don't have virus, I will get it waiting in overcrowded rooms with coughing people


[24-Jun-20 06:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wonder if more civilized places do this better


[24-Jun-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Maybe if we had been better prepared instead of ignoring this for 6 months, we could have had better testing facilities in place


[24-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I dunno. Was anyone prepared at all?


[24-Jun-20 06:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also I am not from USA :D


[24-Jun-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
south korea, japan, a lot of european countries


[24-Jun-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly towards the scandinavian parts


[24-Jun-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
new zealand


[24-Jun-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greenland


[24-Jun-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe because they have colder weather in general and less people?


[24-Jun-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile america sat on it's ass for 6 months despite having very clear warning from health officials becAUSE it didnt want to spook the stock investors


[24-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, sounds bad.


[24-Jun-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Then when the news finally erupted to the american public, Trump tried to play it off as a hoax and sent his feds to confiscate testign equipment, and medical supplies


[24-Jun-20 06:29 PM] Synfag#9241
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https://twitter.com/TimCarpenterMKE/status/1275716467007328258

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@lanceveeser I took this pic- it got me assaulted & beat up. Punched/kicked in the head, neck, ribs. Maybe concussion, socked in left eye is little blurry, sore neck & ribs. 8-10 people attacked me. Innocent people are going to get killed. Capitol locked- stuck in office.Stop...
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[24-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1267641851215036416

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This is one of the most absolutely insane moments I've ever seen on live television. https://t.co/Uvzig8YGSa
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[24-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kinda old


[24-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
black store owners call cops on looters, cops arrest the store owners


[24-Jun-20 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
still relevant


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
even if it happened in the 90's, it's still relevant because the same shit still happens today


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
also I looked it up, they seem to arrest everyone and then ask questions


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it is their usual thing


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
standard procedure


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
shitty procedure


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
change it


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
your country you change it


[24-Jun-20 06:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twisilly:


[24-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
don't defend it if you don't want someone to think you support it lmao


[24-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I defend it?


[24-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
"standard procedure" is a classic deflection


[24-Jun-20 06:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I just explain that it is a norm in your country.


[24-Jun-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
you didn't have to do that because I already know there's a lot of shitty "standard" procedures in "my country"


[24-Jun-20 06:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also they arrested everyone on the spot, not just black owners as you said.


[24-Jun-20 06:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
*Handcuffed.


[24-Jun-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
you spoke up in a way that seemingly defends the actions of the police because it's their "standard procedure", you didn't have to do that lol


[24-Jun-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-Jun-20 06:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Don't move goalposts. You say they arrested black owners implying they arrested them cause they are black.


[24-Jun-20 06:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I say they arrest everyone.


[24-Jun-20 06:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And it is a known norm.


[24-Jun-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
what?


[24-Jun-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
what goalposts did I move?


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
"shitty standard procedures"


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
you brought that up first


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
from "lmao blacks get arrested cause black lol"


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
I never said that...


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't say they got arrested because they were black


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>black store owners call cops on looters, cops arrest the store owners


[24-Jun-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
but okay


[24-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
you specifically mentioned their skin color


[24-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
okay?


[24-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
while there is a white journalist


[24-Jun-20 06:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
who got cuffed too


[24-Jun-20 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
they didn't cuff the journalists...


[24-Jun-20 06:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Doesn't matter much, they got detained as well. And she gives shitty info on who is the looter, causing uninvolved black lady in car to get detained too.


[24-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It also doesn't look that bad when you think that the person who called police said there are armed black people screaming at each other.


[24-Jun-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
... the people who called the police were the store owners


[24-Jun-20 06:58 PM] Crow#5457
but for the future, if you don't want people to think you're defending the actions of the police, you should probably mention something along the lines of "this is what the police are trained to do", not dismiss it as "standard procedure"


[24-Jun-20 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
in the US, "standard procedure" is used as a dismissal for every shitty thing the police do


[24-Jun-20 06:59 PM] Crow#5457
mainly by the police themselves


[24-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What is your own ideal scenario of how people should handle such situations when they lack info about who to detain on the spot?


[24-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If you do not like how they arrest everyone and ask questions later.


[24-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[24-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wouldn’t need to call the police if they had a gun under the counter.


[24-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
if they are obviously compliant, don't arrest them first and ask questions later


[24-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Crow#5457
they did have guns, you can see it in the video


[24-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
The looters or the owner?


[24-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, they waved shotgun around.


[24-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
the owner (or at least people defending the store)


[24-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
owner


[24-Jun-20 07:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also, Crow, in your scenario every "obviously compliant" looking criminal can escape just by faking that compliance.


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't say let them go lol


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
I said don't arrest them


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
you can stand people in a corner while you figure out the situation without just cuffing everyone in sight


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
After the cut was made you can see the guy screaming at cop


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
With his hands free


[24-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
In the end


[24-Jun-20 07:13 PM] Crow#5457
there's not really enough at the end of the clip to determine what's going on with that, the store owners all got arrested earlier in the video though, which is wrong


[24-Jun-20 07:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do we have reliable sources to confirm they were really owners and not just random vigilantes/militia against looters though?


[24-Jun-20 07:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Cause sometimes people make shit up like with that viral "fbi agent" vid.


[24-Jun-20 07:18 PM] Synfag#9241

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[24-Jun-20 07:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He was pretty nationalistic from what I read.


[24-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
the full quote is this btw
```"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese. And the two ancient races have now begun a hard life together, fraught with bickering and squabbles. Discrimination and poverty unite them in the daily fight for survival but their different ways of approaching life separate them completely: The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations."```


[24-Jun-20 07:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
from "The Motorcycle Diaries" based on his diary


[24-Jun-20 07:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe he changed his views later tho


[24-Jun-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
apparently those quotes are from before he became a revolutionary


[24-Jun-20 07:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
yeah, that's what i was thinking too


[24-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1lt4rb/was_it_the_truth_behind_the_critical_controversy/cc2l72k/

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[24-Jun-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2020/06/23/whistleblower-dept-of-education-deliberately-thwarted-loan-forgiveness-process/amp/

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A U. S. Department of Education official has filed a whistleblower complaint, alleging that the Trump and DeVos administration deliberately made it harder for student loan borrowers to apply for a loan forgiveness program.
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[24-Jun-20 07:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/north-korea-threatens-new-round-of-the-korean-war-to-end-us-report/

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North Korea reportedly threatens ‘new round of the Korean War’ to e...
North Korea's embassy in Moscow has threatened to use its nation's nuclear weapons against the United States in what they claim would be “a particularly sensational event.”
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[24-Jun-20 07:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek


[24-Jun-20 07:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they are not wrong


[24-Jun-20 09:25 PM] illumnious#7938
He's not stopping https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275871808261107712?s=19

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LAW & ORDER!
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[24-Jun-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
DINERS, DRIVE-INS, AND DIVES!


[24-Jun-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
why are people retweeting that


[24-Jun-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"people"


[24-Jun-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
CHINA!


[24-Jun-20 09:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I will bet you anything that even if there are russian/etc trolls and bots out there retweeting everything the president says, and even if everyone knows it, he's *still* probably paying for a bot farm of his own


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
or at least, that's a nicer term to use than 'trump's voting base"


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
why russians tho


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s paying china for a few election services as well


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
because he wants cheaper russian style portraits ofc


[24-Jun-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because we know they're there. We know the russians are botting and hacking and influencing. They literally never stopped. The same people we caught are still doing it.


[24-Jun-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
russia is really good at bot farms, china also has a few running aorund


[24-Jun-20 09:32 PM] jlun2#8758
is it easy to spot them


[24-Jun-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s how they pull off their misinformation campaigns and money grifting from MMOs


[24-Jun-20 09:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's easy to spot bots, generally speaking. What's interesting is in figuring out who they are


[24-Jun-20 09:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because it turns out that, well, there are a *couple different,* more or less isolated ecosystems of troll farms that have independently developed their own tools, but they're all directly linked to Russian government interests


[24-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You say like americans never use bots


[24-Jun-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't say that at all. But generally speaking if they were American bots that'd be a whole lot less illegal. Unfortunately.


[24-Jun-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
still illegal tho


[24-Jun-20 09:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but not if you call it stuff like a PAC using a market research firm to generate a facebook campaign


[24-Jun-20 09:36 PM] jlun2#8758
boomer haven


[24-Jun-20 09:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the thing about all of those buzzwords is that if *any* of it is coming from outside the US to influence the election, you have election interference


[24-Jun-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
> outside the US
move all the russians to america first :bigbrain:


[24-Jun-20 09:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they've done that, too!


[24-Jun-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for everyone that is aware of the bot and knows they are bots, there's atleast 20 or more people who arent at all aware and buy every word they spam up!


[24-Jun-20 09:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
heck, half the point behind the astroturfed trump rallies in '16 was to make some facebook group talking about an upcoming pro-trump rally, get a couple bogus news sites up (pumped full of quasi-real news scraped from wherever) to report on it, get local people involved (or not) and then have the original organizer dip on it


[24-Jun-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you get to things like the epoch times


[24-Jun-20 09:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and bam, you've got a rally full of nothing but real US citizens who think they're all acting on behalf of US citizens


[24-Jun-20 09:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times this shit was all over youtube ads on hvac videos awhile back

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[24-Jun-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Epoch Times is a U.S. based international multi-language newspaper and media extension of the Falun Gong new religious movement.The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD). For its articles, the publication draws from a network within China, as well as staff living in the West. It has websites in 35 countries. Its websites are blocked in mainland China, whose communist government The Epoch Times investigates for human rights violations.

The Epoch Times is known in Europe to promote far-right politicians,[12][13] and in the United States it backs President Donald Trump; a 2019 report showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign. The group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.The organization frequently promotes other Falun Gong extensions, such as its performing arts company, Shen Yun.


[24-Jun-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://time.com/3558705/boost-voter-turnout-sweden-america/

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The Swedish Way to Boost Voter Turnout
Whether you’re in high-turnout Sweden or low-turnout L.A., the task of getting people to participate must be a constant, year-round focus of attention, not just an issue of concern at election time
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[24-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
from 2014, but still very relevant considering that a lot of the US is doing the opposite of how to increase voter turnout


[24-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
> I’m highly sensitive to the issues of participation because democracy is such a big part of my life. I’m a professional journalist for Swiss radio who covers a lot of elections around Europe and the world. I’ve been an official observer of elections (my co-observer President Jimmy Carter failed to show up when we were paired recently as observers of Taiwanese elections). And I vote in two different countries because I’m a citizen of Sweden and Switzerland, as well as the European Union.
> 
> In all these contexts, I’ve seen that the places with the greatest participation do not necessarily have the most media coverage and campaign materials demanding that people show up at the polls. The places that improve participation tend to be places where regular people connect with politics and make collective decisions all the time, not just in election season.
> 
> How to create these connections? You need to strengthen existing institutions—and build new ones—that encourage active citizenship year-round.


[24-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/us/rhode-island-change-official-state-name-slavery-connotations

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Rhode Island considers name change due to slavery connotations
What’s in a name? For the state of Rhode Island, years of acrimony over an official designation with connotations of slavery.
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[24-Jun-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
> Determined to boost participation, we made use of our very generous voting regulations—we permit early voting, voting by mail, and even second voting. What’s second voting? People who voted early can go to a polling station on Election Day and change their vote in person; When people do this, the vote in the polling station is accepted and the advance vote declared invalid.


[24-Jun-20 09:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh look the answer to all the REEEing about voter fraud


[24-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
> We did all of this with the agreement of each of the nine political parties in the city parliament, which consists of 61 members. Our message was a paradigm shift: We need to move away from the idea that citizens are just consumers of political programs and parties and start seeing them as direct participants in the community. In this, we had a distinct advantage: Sweden’s long history of democracy has generated significant trust in public institutions.


[24-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
that would be hard to do in the US, people have basically no trust in public institutions despite all the propaganda saying to trust the government


[24-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I'd say the reason why people trust the government so little is because they went a little too heavy on the propaganda


[24-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
sweden population is 10 millions total


[24-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[24-Jun-20 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-burnley-fan-behind-white-22246694

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Burnley fan behind White Lives Matter banner is sacked from his job
Burnley fan Jake Hepple has been sacked from his job at Paradigm Precision, just days after a plane carrying the banner White Lives Matter was flown over the Etihad
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[24-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Remember-no white pride,white people bad


[24-Jun-20 10:00 PM] jlun2#8758
he can probably find a new job quickly


[24-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He should be ashamed of being white obviously

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[24-Jun-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
& then the next thing you know there's another nazi in this chat :ts_cry:


[24-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pride

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White pride
White pride, or white power, is an expression primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints. It is also a slogan used by the prominent post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront and...
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[24-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
it would help if the term "white pride" wasn't a white supremacist/neo-nazi dogwhistle


[24-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I wonder why black pride expression is ok and totally not nazi


[24-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
... because there's no mass genocide propogated by black nationalists? there's never been a "black nazi" equivalent


[24-Jun-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally centuries of history of whites putting down blacks as subhuman


[24-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/world/europe/coronavirus-EU-American-travel-ban.html

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E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failu...
European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.
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[24-Jun-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I support them in that measure


[24-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't say "wellness check"


[24-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's absolute fukking BS of the highest order.


[24-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything where police are sent should be called a raid or something similar.


[24-Jun-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the wellness raids


[24-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
You call the cops to "chekk up on" Bubba, you've just sent the cops to raid his house.


[24-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Arabian_Legion#Units

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Free Arabian Legion
Free Arabian Legion (Arabic: جيش بلاد العرب الحرة‎, romanized: Jaysh bilād al-ʿarab al-ḥurraẗ; German: Legion Freies Arabien) was the collective name of several Nazi German units formed from Arab volunteers from the Middle East and North Africa during World War II.
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[24-Jun-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the beatings will continue until morale improves


[24-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is absolute fukking moral cowardice to say that the police are actually just there to determine he's "well".


[24-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because it's saying that it's just "bad apple" cops that mess it all up.


[24-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
No, the police should not be sent just to determine someone's okay.


[24-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> President Trump, as well as his Russian and Brazilian counterparts, Vladimir V. Putin and Jair Bolsonaro, has followed what critics call a comparable path in their pandemic response that leaves all three countries in a similarly bad spot: they were dismissive at the outset of the crisis, slow to respond to scientific advice and saw a boom of domestic cases as other parts of the world, notably in Europe and Asia, were slowly managing to get their outbreaks under control.


[24-Jun-20 10:36 PM] jlun2#8758
wait there's russian cases?


[24-Jun-20 10:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
7-9k per day


[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Crow in africa it happens


[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
today statistic


[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
White  people are getting killed


[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
systemically?


[24-Jun-20 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
did they create an entire infrastructure for shipping people into camps and killing them as efficiently and in large numbers as possible?


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Neither whites did that


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
... the nazis did that


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Once.


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
hey crow


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
wtf does that have to do with anything?


[24-Jun-20 10:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nazis we're after white people


[24-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
that also has absolutely nothing to do with the topic


[24-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
the fact of the matter is that you compared black pride to nazism


[24-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
when there is literally no comparison


[24-Jun-20 10:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Did I?


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You did


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
no, electrify did


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
can you stop being intellectually dishonest for one second?


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/live-house-judiciary-committee-hearing-aaron-zelinsky-testimony-2020-6

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[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Of course crow is the only one honest here


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[24-Jun-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/in-scathing-letter-more-than-80-percent-of-active-faculty-at-bill-barrs-law-school-call-for-his-censure-and-resignation/

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In Scathing Letter, More Than 80-Percent of Faculty at Bill Barr’s ...
Professors and deans at George Washington University Law School renounced one of their most prominent alumni on Tuesday, releasing a statement vilifying Attorney General William Barr’s conduct since taking up residence in the 45th president's cabinet. The undersigned faculty m...
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[24-Jun-20 10:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The guy who had the white lives matter flag was an idiot


[24-Jun-20 10:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That's rich to hear from you.


[24-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What u guys think about all lives matter slogan?


[24-Jun-20 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-nationals-tied-to-chinese-government-donate-trump-reelection-wsj-2020-6

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[24-Jun-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The all lives matter slogan is stupid as shit


[24-Jun-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-test-sites-ending-funding-5-states-2020-6

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[24-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It probably comes from people who don't care anyways


[24-Jun-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's like walking up to a homeless person saying they need a home and telling them "We all need homes" while doing nothing about their homelessness


[24-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Technically that's true.
People with homes want homes for their children and stuff.


[24-Jun-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Homes are important, yes. But the guy saying he needs a home, needs the home now, while the guy who said "we all need homes" already has a home


[24-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Are you implying we should be nice to each other?
What kind of heresy is that.


[24-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Smh.


[24-Jun-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all lives matter, yes. But right now some lives matter less than others in the eyes of society and those lives are saying "We matter too" and fighting for a better place in society


[24-Jun-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also blue lives matter is worse than all lives matter, because those fuckers have all the guns and tear gas


[24-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie it is a dumb slogan. Yes all lives matter but right now black lives are being ended for no good reason


[24-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) those fuckers also tear gas peaceful protesters on june 2nd 2020 in DC


[24-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember laffit square


[24-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@prism stryder(intexda) 
You miss my point.
All those arguments are useless if person doesn't feel bad for others and has no empathy.


[24-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There are a lot of people like that.


[24-Jun-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wasnt responding to your point, but i get it


[24-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hey kobold do u know about third world countries?Do u think they need help?


[24-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ok


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lmao no


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No one needs help from usa


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I kind of agree there


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syrias-assad-is-confronting-the-toughest-challenges-of-the-9-year-war/2020/05/25/42d4adec-9946-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our help is toxic as shit


[24-Jun-20 11:14 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The US "helped" Iraq


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our help tends to come with hostage holding and land invasion


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Helped itself to oil


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact that life elsewhere is worse does not mean we don't have problems


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
trying to divert the subject like that is slimy and dishonest


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
suffering is also not a competition


[24-Jun-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> That's rich to hear from you.
@Stoopedhooy 

Bruh


[24-Jun-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
we're not playing oppression olympics


[24-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But but but blm bad sjw bad orange man goood


[24-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Bruh


[24-Jun-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one african country suffering does not negate american suffering and vice versa


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I love how warc is being like electrify but polar opposite of him.


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So, when are the votes in usa?


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for president?


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ye


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I am?


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nov 3rd


[24-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
The 2020 United States presidential election is scheduled for Tuesday, November 3, 2020. It will be the 59th quadrennial presidential election. Voters will select presidential electors who in turn will vote on December 14, 2020


[24-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Neat


[24-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I had no idea


[24-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Thank you


[24-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Wonder if trump gonna be a president for another 4 years


[24-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Looks like there will be tons of drama till te end of 2020


[24-Jun-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope not but at this point it;s hard to tell


[24-Jun-20 11:22 PM] jlun2#8758
🟧 🦧  2️⃣ 0️⃣ 2️⃣ 🇴


[24-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
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[24-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Lol no


[24-Jun-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an orangutan would be a better president than trump


[24-Jun-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman im a young person. im by law required to complain on social media & share posts instead of voting


[24-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
40.9% pop :wheeze:


[24-Jun-20 11:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u know,statistics means nothing when u have right people who could rig those elections


[24-Jun-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll be voting by mail if my state doesnt fuck that over or the mail service doesnt go bottoms up


[24-Jun-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
> right people
you mean idiots like me who will share stuff they find & upvote, then wonder why nothing changes despite "I (up)voted a BLM post!" instead of real voting


[24-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie but statistics from vervied sourses over years being wrong?


[24-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
trump's disapproval rating is starting to reach the same high it did during the government shutdown last year


[24-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Crow#5457
but his approval rating is about 1% higher at the same disapproval percentage


[24-Jun-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-kamikaze-shinzo-abe-dad-john-bolton-2020-6

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Trump claimed Shinzo Abe's father was disappointed he couldn't carr...
"Trump used it to show how tough the Japanese were generally, and how tough Abe was in particular," former national security adviser John Bolton said.
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[24-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
wtf, trump considers people who use suicide attacks to be "tough"


[24-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/venezuelas-gasoline-system-fails-end-030229951.html

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Venezuela's new gasoline system fails to end epic lines
Hundreds of Venezuelans queued up in miles-long lines to try to fill their cars with subsidized gasoline over the weekend, a week after President Nicolas Maduro launched a new dual-price system aimed at easing an acute fuel shortage.  Maduro on May 30 announced the new system ...
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[24-Jun-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s violent, it;s tough in his eyes


[24-Jun-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Jun-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/eliot-engel-vs-jamaal-bowman-new-yorks-16th-district-results-2020-6

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Jamaal Bowman unseats long-time congressman Eliot Engel in a major ...
Bowman defeated Engel, who has served in Congress since 1989 and chairs the powerful House Foreign Relations Committee, on a progressive platform.
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[24-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/ahmaud-arbery-travis-gregory-mcmichael-roddy-bryan.html

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Suspects in Ahmaud Arbery’s Killing Are Indicted on Murder Charges
The three white men accused of killing Mr. Arbery, a black man who was chased while jogging in their neighborhood, were each indicted on nine counts, including felony murder.
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[24-Jun-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1275794381216284675?s=20

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Ruben Diaz, Sr.'s political career is over. His legacy: The Bronx electing its first openly gay member of Congress. I doubt he's happy about it.
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[24-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Homo Power


[24-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:glowing_eyes:


[24-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/504332-house-members-bicker-amid-whistleblower-hearing

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House members bicker amid whistleblower hearing
A House Judiciary Committee hearing erupted in bickering on Wednesday as lawmakers heard testimony from a pair of Justice Department whistleblowers and two former senior officials over allegations that the Trump administration has politicized
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[24-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically Republicans are 10-year-olds.


[24-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And need to be thrown out of the House.


[24-Jun-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also "Gohmert uses his speaking time to hurl conspiracy theories and wax nostalgic about his marriage, then says it's a 'shame we don't have a serious hearing'"


[24-Jun-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"It would be a shame if... I were to speak"


[25-Jun-20 12:00 AM] jlun2#8758
& ppl vote for him?


[25-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/michael-flynn-dismiss/index.html

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Appeals court orders judge to dismiss Michael Flynn case
A divided federal appeals court on Wednesday ordered the dismissal of the case against former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn, likely concluding a long-running court fight that had taken on greater meaning in political debates about the Russia investigation into ...
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[25-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump appointee wrote the decision.


[25-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/us/politics/fauci-congress-coronavirus.html

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By Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Noah Weiland
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/us/politics/fauci-congress-coronavirus.html
Fauci, Citing ‘Disturbing Surge,’ Tells Congress the Virus Is Not U...
The testimony of the nation’s top infectious disease expert countered President Trump’s upbeat assessment, describing a “mixed bag” of some bright spots amid worrying trends and unknowns.
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[25-Jun-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GAZP-XjvrI

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[25-Jun-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no idea what this is about and google just gives me runescape


[25-Jun-20 12:32 AM] AaronMk#4499
https://means.tv/programs/tastehope

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Taste of Hope
Taste of Hope
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[25-Jun-20 12:33 AM] AaronMk#4499
> In a world driven by capital, workers of a self-managed tea factory in France struggle to survive against all odds.
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> In 2010, Unilever announced the closing of the profitable Fralib tea processing and packaging plant in the South of France. After 1,336 days of resistance, the workers celebrated their victory against the giant multinational and became owners of the factory.
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> Now, with the take-over of the company and production under workers’ control, a new struggle has begun. Can this alternative project be viable within a highly competitive, capitalist market?
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> TASTE OF HOPE is the fascinating story of a workers’ cooperative on their bumpy road to real utopia. Where idealism clashes with harsh reality, the documentary observes the factory workers as they face inevitable challenges, both from external market forces and within the organization itself. For two years, the filmmaker accompanied the workers in their daily struggles. Between general assemblies, cash-flow problems and tea tastings with potential clients, deception, and conflict emerge.


[25-Jun-20 12:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh, that sounds like an interesting watch


[25-Jun-20 12:47 AM] jlun2#8758
how is Fauci not fired yet wow


[25-Jun-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because if he gets fired, it will make broad sweeping headlines and it will look super bad for Trump's re-election


[25-Jun-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is working to mitigate that right now by trying to downgrade the perceived threat level of the virus to people by shutting down key tools to fighting it, which will probably end in firing fauci when trump is confident he can make fauci look unneeded


[25-Jun-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fauci seemed to be on the chopping block for awhile until press pointed this out and then things suddenly turned around and he was no longer in the cross hairs


[25-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/23/stock-market-futures-open-to-close-news.html

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Dow drops more than 700 points in worst day since June 11 as virus ...
Stocks fell sharply as the increasing number of newly confirmed coronavirus cases dampened expectations of an economic recovery.
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[25-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
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Me?irl
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[25-Jun-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/LanceBass/status/1275848997937307648

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HEADS UP fellow businesses.... This is not a thing. This is what happens when Arts and Crafts Karens have too much time on their hands. We will throw it in the trash and send them on their way.
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[25-Jun-20 01:05 AM] jlun2#8758
I wonder has anyone tried calling 800 514 0301


[25-Jun-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
> ADA Information Linewww.ada.gov › infoline
> To get answers to technical questions, obtain general ADA information, order free ADA materials, or ask about filing a complaint, please call: 800-514-0301 
oh. the number is real but card is fake


[25-Jun-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://brrr.money/

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Money printer go BRRR
Print it, baby!
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[25-Jun-20 01:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Considering the text is clipping off the side, and considering its the "Americans with Disabilit**ies** Act", yeah that's fake as shit


[25-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
didn't even try


[25-Jun-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I could make a more convincing card in 30 minutes


[25-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Using actual laminate instead of a premade card thingy with glue would help


[25-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Having an actual name


[25-Jun-20 01:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So many things


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
using a card printer


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not like they're hard to come by


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah. More likely for someone to have a laminator though


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
wasn't too long ago I was considering getting a printing and copying set for magstripes


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
For what?


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
and that was ~$200


[25-Jun-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
for uh... reasons xd


[25-Jun-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
(not cc, just university stuff)


[25-Jun-20 01:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Whatever it is sounds like fun


[25-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I wanted to copy my dorm room key


[25-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the main thing


[25-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
school makes you pay $100 if you lose your card, so like, if you lose it twice... you might as well get a copying kit


[25-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
you'd be saving money at that point


[25-Jun-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I have yet to lose my card


[25-Jun-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
this is one of many, many arbitrary extortionate punishments they dole out on students for simple acts of forgetfulness


[25-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Damn that's a lot


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
they probably make quite a bit of money from it


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
They probably do it through some third party that charges up the ass for ordering a single card


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And then tack 30 bucks on there for the trouble


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
no, they do it in house


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh man


[25-Jun-20 01:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Then what the crap


[25-Jun-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
like I have noted already, magstripe card services are quite easy to do yourself


[25-Jun-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
from issuing to printing the label to programming the stripe


[25-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, that's why I figured they ordered them


[25-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Just to not deal with it, and then just pass the cost onto the students


[25-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Like how teachers have custom books that cost 4x as much as the normal book, but have pretty much the same content


[25-Jun-20 01:23 AM] byte[]#2610
yup


[25-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/oregon-county-people-of-color-mask-trnd/index.html

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People of color won't be required to wear masks in an Oregon county
People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask mandate over concerns about racial profiling.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200611081712-homemade-masks-0510-super-tease.jpg


[25-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
> Lincoln County, Oregon, requires most residents to wear face coverings in public settings, indoors or outdoors. The overwhelmingly White county will not require non-White residents to wear them if they fear harassment, the county said this month.
> 
> It's one of the first counties in the US to exempt people of color from wearing masks to prevent racial profiling.
> 
> Also exempt are people with disabilities or medical conditions whose breathing would be obstructed by a mask and children under 12, though children ages 2 through 12 are still encouraged to cover their faces.


[25-Jun-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
dumb


[25-Jun-20 01:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wut


[25-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask mandate over concerns about racial profiling.
Is this the onion


[25-Jun-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
apply it universally or fuck off


[25-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
> When the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended in April that all Americans wear masks in public, many Black and Latino Americans didn't feel comfortable following its advice. In their cases, wearing a mask could make others perceive them as criminal, activists and educators told CNN in April.
> 
> "This [wearing a mask] seems like a reasonable response unless you just sort of take American society out of it," Trevor Logan, an economics professor at Ohio State University and a Black man, told CNN. "When you can't do that, you're basically telling people to look dangerous given racial stereotypes that are out there."
> 
> It's a "lose-lose" scenario, ReNika Moore of the ACLU's Racial Justice Program told CNN in April, because either way, Black Americans feel endangered.


[25-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
it's dumb, but I can understand where they're coming from


[25-Jun-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If I had a conspiracy theorist raptor inside me, she would be saying they're trying to just make sure black people get more covid.


[25-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Alas I do not


[25-Jun-20 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
uh oh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151927934758813696/725491586162622504/unknown.png

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[25-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's lovely


[25-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is it from onion article?


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Inquirer


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oxygen as in medical oxygen


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
it's from the guardian


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
kek


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It does sound weird if you don't realize that. Took me a sec


[25-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh, herp, even says it


[25-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jun/25/coronavirus-live-news-who-warns-of-global-oxygen-shortage-as-cases-rise-by-1m-per-week

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Coronavirus live news: WHO warns of global oxygen shortage as cases...
Texas hospitals near capacity; Dutch brothels to reopen; volunteers receive first doses of experimental vaccine. Follow the latest updates
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[25-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/stay-away-from-us-hostile-response-for-new-zealanders-returning-home-to-covid-lifeboat

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'Stay away from us': hostile response for New Zealanders returning ...
Some Kiwis find a harsh homecoming amid concern about importing coronavirus after months of lockdown sacrifice by ‘team of 5 million’
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[25-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Crow#5457
apparently new zealand is showing off its xenophobic undercoat again, this time against its own people


[25-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's xenophobia at that point.


[25-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just really don't like how other countries handled this.


[25-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Crow#5457
> When she tweeted about her experience – New Zealand’s government had started to use hotels in Rotorua and the South Island city of Christchurch to quarantine returning travellers as Auckland reached capacity – it didn’t take long for responders to chide Ellen for what they saw as complaining. “Stay away from us until you’re declared safe,” one wrote. “So sorry if we don’t care about your food needs.”


[25-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
NZ was one of the few places to get almost no problems with the virus.


[25-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What about north korean method


[25-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Did it work?


[25-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:beheaded:


[25-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
> The rhetoric of national unity – New Zealand together against the world – that Ardern successfully deployed to manage the national lockdown has been a unique part of the country’s response, other analysts said.


[25-Jun-20 02:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[25-Jun-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I would be too!


[25-Jun-20 02:43 AM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck is that crap


[25-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Red vs blue then


[25-Jun-20 02:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Go is not racist because the black piece is first


[25-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Black holes are racist.


[25-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain:


[25-Jun-20 02:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There are white holes as well?


[25-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Yuri#4154
Not the best source

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[25-Jun-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the color black is racist, it must be eradicated to end offense!


[25-Jun-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait :ponkthonk:


[25-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[25-Jun-20 02:46 AM] wren#0114
but you see, whites always move first, representing priveledge


[25-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why not use coin flip?


[25-Jun-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/is-peanut-butter-and-jelly-racist_n_1874905 old but also just as dumb

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The Surprising Food A Portland School Principal Has Deemed Racially...
A lunchtime staple of students for years, the peanut butter and jelly sandwich could be considered one of the more popular items found in the sack lunche...
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/default-entry.jpg?ops=1778_1000


[25-Jun-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck you clickbait title


[25-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Chess is not about rng


[25-Jun-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was not at all that ont he page itself


[25-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Crow#5457
white holes theoretically exist, but none have been directly observed


[25-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
So, you choose a side for your strategy to work? Sounds imbalanced.


[25-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wait, how is PB&J racist


[25-Jun-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> In the context of a debate regarding the reclassification of common items as potentially racially offensive, the notion that something as harmless and American as peanut butter and jelly sandwiches could be next had a ring of truth to some unsettled Americans. But extraordinary claims such as this require extraordinary substance to be considered credible, and this one had some glaring weaknesses.


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
PB&J fucking sucks


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
depends on the jelly


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Peanut butter in general fucking sucks


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Ban peanut butter


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nutella and jelly


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
peenut


[25-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Now we're talking


[25-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
what's wrong with peanut butter?


[25-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Yuri#4154
Everything


[25-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Yuri#4154
It just tastes really gross to me


[25-Jun-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think chocolate peanutbutter is over used as a food bar flavor


[25-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
do you have a problem with peanuts?


[25-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
or just peanut butter


[25-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Yuri#4154
Just peanut butter


[25-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Yuri#4154
I love peanuts


[25-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
you live in the UK right? what brands do they have over there?


[25-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
I was gonna ask what brands of peanut butter you've tried, but it's probably way different than in the US


[25-Jun-20 02:56 AM] wren#0114
imagine not enjoying buttered nuts


[25-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think I've ever had peanut butter I can describe as bad, but there's been some lackluster brands I've tried before


[25-Jun-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my problem with peanutbutter and peanuts is over exposure, i dont hate them but they get in so many things that it gets tiring


[25-Jun-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peanuts infest nut mixes liek the plague and they arent even nuts


[25-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Yuri#4154
The ones I've seen around the most are Sun-Pat, Whole Earth and Meridian


[25-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Yuri#4154
Marmite also makes peanut butter iirc

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[25-Jun-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just let me have more roasted walnuts, is that too much to ask


[25-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Yuri#4154
Then again


[25-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Yuri#4154
I have a weird taste in food


[25-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Yuri#4154
Mostly because my sense of smell quite literally doesn't work


[25-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I get the feeling US peanut butter tastes way different from peanut butter in the UK


[25-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
probably has more sugar and stuff in it


[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
nah


[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
our peanuts are just oilier

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[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
they're bred that way


[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a lot of differences between brands here at least


[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
I mean the mix they use, peanut butter's always tasted kinda sweet to me


[25-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some have a thick layer of oil in the jar, some are basically dry


[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some sweet, some basically just peanut


[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
@Yuri, have you seen peanut butter that looks like this? https://s3.amazonaws.com/secretsaucefiles/photos/images/000/156/874/large/toast_peanut_butter.jpg

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[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
idk, it shouldn't really taste sweet


[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't like the smooth or sweet stuff


[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe it's an oddity of the peanuts


[25-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
it's not exactly sweet, it just has a sweetish taste (talking about skippy creamy peanut butter)


[25-Jun-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
but the stuff my parents always got when I was younger (JIF) did not really seem sweet


[25-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdnimg.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/large/442310/1632802.jpg

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[25-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Yuri#4154
Yup, I think I've seen that before


[25-Jun-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
ah, so there is added sugar


[25-Jun-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe as a preservative to prevent the oil from rancidifying too quickly


[25-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrm, I think the stuff I buy doesn't have sugar


[25-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just, just rapeseed and soy oilt and salt


[25-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and lots of peanuts)


[25-Jun-20 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-confirm-plans-for-nearly-all-virtual-convention-2020-6

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[25-Jun-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
TIL


[25-Jun-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rhode Island is not the Greek island of Rhodes


[25-Jun-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:trixdisgust:


[25-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Crow#5457
http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/riconstitution/Pages/Constfull.aspx

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State of Rhode Island General Assembly
RIL Site Press Release
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[25-Jun-20 03:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Bruh.


[25-Jun-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/06/24/fired-wilmington-cop-we-are-just-going-to-go-out-and-start-slaughtering-them-f-ni-i-cant-wait-god-i-cant-wait-free-read/ whew


[25-Jun-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
Nice, it went down just as I linked it


[25-Jun-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway


[25-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
/. effect is still a thing


[25-Jun-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
> *“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking niggers. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.*
> *“Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to ‘wipe ’em off the fucking map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.'”*
Jesus. These people have been working as cops for *decades*, and this is what they think? Disgusting


[25-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
this portcitydaily site is loading stupidly slow


[25-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, are you surprised?


[25-Jun-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
Managing web properties is difficult


[25-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
These are the folks that watched Dirty Harry and went from the theatre to the recruiting station


[25-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And a reminder,
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[25-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Even if they quadrupled that, none of it's gonna eliminate the "us vs. them" shit or the mentality that cities are warzones and every civilian is a potential enemy combatant, nevermind how they see every black dude as some sort of uruk-hai 3 times as strong as the average man


[25-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
every time someone says "civil war" in the context of the US civil war


[25-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
replace "civil" with "race"


[25-Jun-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and you'll get the same thing


[25-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Treascair#7785
> And a reminder,
> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128717349229559808/725120843855691857/image0.png
@Teaspoon 

I saw that list, and *cackled*, seeing my FF 14 play time~ I beat some of these by orders of magnitude... which is depressing, in turn.

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[25-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have enough hours in Killing Floor 2 to be an officer in NYC


[25-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
really makes ya think


[25-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(that I like KF2 too much)


[25-Jun-20 03:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nah. killing floor 2 is good.


[25-Jun-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Jun-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I was wondering have the KKK or other organised racist groups (excluding police) been out counter protesting the BLM protest? Like how National Front, EDF and "The Base" have been out in England counter protesting BLM?


[25-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In force? Not afaik


[25-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of them are too busy at work

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[25-Jun-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
at work in the police force, you mean


[25-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was the implication yes


[25-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
is conspiracy to commit a hate crime a federal crime?


[25-Jun-20 04:01 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure


[25-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
he might actually be open to federal charges for saying what he did


[25-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Jun-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure conspiracy needs a higher bar than that


[25-Jun-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
that said, he should be fired and never allowed to be a cop again anywhere


[25-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmm, I don't believe Stossel anymore


[25-Jun-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
stossel is a moron


[25-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
55-39 Biden is unrealistic


[25-Jun-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305650996628029440/725524745084338186/kjd1lmaa7v651.png

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[25-Jun-20 04:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/21/big-wall-belfast-row-residents-city-council-china

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Big wall of Belfast sparks row between residents, city council and ...
Dispute over whether Chinese consulate has diplomatic immunity to build security barrier despite planning rules
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[25-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/414202669339770880/723715648047284255/on_the_ground.mp4

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[25-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[25-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[25-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai2PsjFQKJU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai2PsjFQKJU
Man tries to escape from Oklahoma police by jumping off the bridge
Video from a police body camera shows a shooting suspect falling about 30 feet from a bridge in Tulsa, Oklahoma, as he fled from officers.

Tulsa police have released the video from April 30 which shows Damaco Taylor hanging from a wall until he either releases or loses his gr...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ai2PsjFQKJU/maxresdefault.jpg


[25-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
happened 30 april 2019


[25-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
body cam footage wasn't released until june


[25-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The tweet has some context https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat/status/1109516478783590400

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https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat/status/1109516478783590400
Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.

You take a step toward him. He takes a step back.

Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.
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[25-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Satyric/status/1110406439418429440

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https://twitter.com/Satyric/status/1110406439418429440
@JuliusGoat “Why won’t you compromise?” he says
walking backwards,
“Why are you being so unreasonable?
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[25-Jun-20 04:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
There are so much criminals in the US every year, because we have the world best police system, we does too well on discovering cases of crimes. So let's _slow down_ the policing!

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[25-Jun-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/504368-trump-campaign-sues-democratic-super-pac-over-ad-criticism-coronavirus

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Trump campaign sues Democratic super PAC over ad criticizing corona...
President Trump’s reelection campaign is suing the largest Democratic super PAC for running an ad that it says misrepresents the president’s remarks about the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_06172020getty.jpg


[25-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
SLAPP


[25-Jun-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
slapp like now


[25-Jun-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/8m91s57s6v651.jpg

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[25-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
there should be some law against SLAPPs or something


[25-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like trump's filed a SLAPP suit every week the past month


[25-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The are Anti-SLAPP laws in many states.


[25-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
But not states conservatives like to sue in.


[25-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Defamation in general feels like it should be on the decline, but it is not.


[25-Jun-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harder to do anything about it, sure.


[25-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Crow#5457
anti-SLAPP should be federal then


[25-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wat


[25-Jun-20 05:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about anti-SLAPP, Its.


[25-Jun-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/over-1000-experts-call-out-racially-biased-ai-designed-to-predict-crime-based-on-your-face/

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Over 1,000 Experts Just Called For A Journal To Not Publish This Paper
Have you ever messed up so badly at work that 1,000 experts band together to tell your publishers to stop, rescind the offer of publication and thoroughly
https://cdn.iflscience.com/images/0c2904d8-f78e-5436-8b5d-92d951599c17/default-1592996303-cover-image.jpg


[25-Jun-20 05:57 AM] jlun2#8758
>  "With 80 percent accuracy and with no racial bias, the software can predict if someone is a criminal based solely on a picture of their face. The software is intended to help law enforcement prevent crime."

> no racial bias
tech bros be like "what racism?"


[25-Jun-20 05:59 AM] wren#0114
even in general without considering race, how was this considered a good idea?


[25-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, we must measure the cranial features to determine who is of criminal inclination.


[25-Jun-20 06:02 AM] wren#0114
is this how blade runner happened


[25-Jun-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
As you can tell, this subject, who happens to be a negro...


[25-Jun-20 06:04 AM] jlun2#8758
echo chamber tech bros


[25-Jun-20 06:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
remember the last time measuring skulls and facial features was used to determine things about people?


[25-Jun-20 06:18 AM] jlun2#8758
"its different now because we have magic ai"


[25-Jun-20 06:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1276006981292249089?s=19

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How Trump Is Making Black America Great Again, The Untold Story Of Black Advancement in the Era of Trump.” By Horace Cooper  A great new book!
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[25-Jun-20 06:20 AM] illumnious#7938
Showoff much?


[25-Jun-20 06:21 AM] illumnious#7938
Also nobody gives a shit


[25-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
AI will basically always turn out to be racist.


[25-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
AI are made by humans who are biased, therefore AI is also biased


[25-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
also, trump breaking the law again


[25-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An AI that gains sentience would only find logic in authoritarianism.


[25-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You mean the laws that don't apply to him? :twismug:


[25-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Synfag#9241

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[25-Jun-20 06:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> How Trump Is Making Black America Great Again
his base says otherwise:squintyjack:


[25-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parody website story from 2016?


[25-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Synfag#9241
Tim "Fence saddler" Pool is on a roll
choking on red pills and vomiting black pills
you can practically hear the voices of his korean ancestors calling him to the rooftops.

*"They loot at my store, Tim. Defend what's yours, Tim. The roof. Get to the roof with the rifle, Tim"*


[25-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Treascair#7785
I mean, he's already gotten smacked down repeatedly...


[25-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://338canada.com/usa/

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[25-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking @Nebbie


[25-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just presidential? Its is the one who greatly overestimates Trump's chances.


[25-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I care more about the Senate, it's the one that I think is in a weird tossup scenario overall.


[25-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
it has the odds at biden with 81.6% and trump with 18.0%


[25-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
with biden winning popular vote at 91.9% and trump at 8.1%


[25-Jun-20 07:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've always held that it's 50/50.


[25-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would require 1) that Florida not be blue, even after giving blakks bakk the right to vote and 2) Some kind of sudden drop in Biden's popularity.


[25-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put simply, utterly stupid.


[25-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can only surmise that you overcorrected cause of Trump's win being "a surprise" because you failed to understand why the fukk it happened and hav defaulted to "well there's 2 outcomes"


[25-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
it puts florida at dem leaning


[25-Jun-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida alone wins it for Biden.


[25-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could shit himself on live TV election day while Trump uncovers evidence Biden literally killed someone and Obama covered it up.


[25-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida would still vote Biden and then that's that.


[25-Jun-20 08:02 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/
'My Little Pony' Fans Are Ready to Admit They Have a Nazi Problem
Even a niche subculture built around magical cartoon horses is reckoning with racism.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/BZU4aCPk5a6z6qrnOZULFF7tQbQ=/0x43:2000x1085/960x500/filters:format(png)/media/img/mt/2020/06/myLittlePony/original.png


[25-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Note I do think Biden will win.


[25-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
lul what an article


[25-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
>>2354631


[25-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[25-Jun-20 08:53 AM] soundtea#9032
Is it that slow at The Atlantic


[25-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
```“Derpibooru became a playground for the right-wing posters [from /mlp/] who could upload their art,” Blake Henry, a 27-year-old musician and a My Little Pony fan—known as Wootmaster in fandom spaces—told me. ```


[25-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[25-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They definitely found the right person to ask. 4chan troll shitposter.


[25-Jun-20 08:58 AM] soundtea#9032
fuckin woot lmao


[25-Jun-20 08:58 AM] soundtea#9032
_looks at all that tracey art_


[25-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/the-largest-my-little-pony-fan-site-bans-racist-fan-art.html

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The Largest My Little Pony Fan Site Bans Your Horse-Crap Racist Fan...
A popular site is changing its content policies.
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[25-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.mic.com/p/online-battle-is-raging-between-nazis-my-little-pony-fans-23624699

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https://www.mic.com/p/online-battle-is-raging-between-nazis-my-little-pony-fans-23624699
An online battle is raging between Nazis and 'My Little Pony' fans
On the surface, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is about as innocent as you can get. It's a cartoon television show based on a line of children's toys centered on a group of magical horses. But on the internet, nothing is sacred. Since its…
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[25-Jun-20 08:58 AM] Crow#5457
better articles


[25-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Synfag#9241
> *An online battle is raging*

since when?


[25-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Synfag#9241
gee, it's as if media found new old drama to hype up


[25-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Only a couple of persons went full anal about that. Others were calling admins hitler as they usually do.


[25-Jun-20 09:12 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I shared to see what was going on


[25-Jun-20 09:12 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
An artiat siad they are leaving


[25-Jun-20 09:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sad/Mad Puppies were pathetic


[25-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Crow thats sad,rip freedom of speech


[25-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If you think this was a freedom, then you never had it.


[25-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Remember when you called someone ugly and got ban.


[25-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
People started posting offensive shit with same intentions (from both sides actually).


[25-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Crow#5457
what was posted on "the left" that was offensive?


[25-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Personally I saw some posts about killing cops deleted


[25-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That was a good thing.


[25-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiright:


[25-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Aaron drew one of them.


[25-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
there was a single image that was offensive in even the slightest way offensive (it called the police "pigs") from "the left" that was uploaded and then deleted


[25-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Crow#5457
that's compared to over 2 dozen very offensive edits of other artists' works that were overtly racist


[25-Jun-20 10:13 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
> Aaron drew one of them.
@Stoopedhooy  
Who?


[25-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 aaron


[25-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Duh


[25-Jun-20 10:14 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
I don’t know who that is


[25-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He always draws political shitposts


[25-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Aaronmk2


[25-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just type @ and start typing aaron


[25-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That's how you search users


[25-Jun-20 10:16 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
AaronMk#4499 ?


[25-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He had some unshaved guy on avatar i dunno


[25-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am on slow mobile and don't wanna ping people


[25-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk


[25-Jun-20 11:27 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Has anyone talked about this in the discord server? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/06/my-little-pony-nazi-4chan-black-lives-matter/613348/

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'My Little Pony' Fans Are Ready to Admit They Have a Nazi Problem
Even a niche subculture built around magical cartoon horses is reckoning with racism.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/BZU4aCPk5a6z6qrnOZULFF7tQbQ=/0x43:2000x1085/960x500/filters:format(png)/media/img/mt/2020/06/myLittlePony/original.png


[25-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Multiple times, yse


[25-Jun-20 11:30 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I'm not sure what to say about this article. I feel like this just came out of nowhere in Twitter.


[25-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clikkbait.


[25-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alcoholics Anonymous phrasing used in a situation it doesn't apply to, whole narrative assembled from detritus.


[25-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The "reporter" interviewed us and all they took out were a couple of words, paraphrased some things, and made up the rest


[25-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And also lied to us


[25-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Technology" "journalist", all they actually write about is vague shit about sites and memes.


[25-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But oh well, guess it should have been expected; they knew what they wanted to write well before they contacted us


[25-Jun-20 11:35 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I'm already afraid to read the article


[25-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just isn't all that fun when a "reporter" from a supposedly respected site jams words in your mouth and gets paid for it


[25-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also...on closer inspection, whey is the beam Rainbow's shooting pixellated?


[25-Jun-20 11:36 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I dunno... are lasers supposed to be like this?


[25-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes no sense. At least use Evil Pie Hater Dash's laser style, or the rainbow beams from the elements being used.


[25-Jun-20 11:37 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I mean, if the lasers weren't pixelated, it would feel like The Atlantic was using MS Paint


[25-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess they spent all their time making a broken swastika and couldn't be assed to get the sizing correct on the laser effect.


[25-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's clearly vector artwork.


[25-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think you're expecting way too much knowledge of the show from them


[25-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I expect an hour of basic research and am still disappointed.


[25-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it people like this are given jobs?


[25-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whose dikk was sukked?


[25-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, more likely they inherited wealth from their parents.


[25-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The dikks were sukked in the 40s.


[25-Jun-20 11:39 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Journalism has hit an all-time low, and it doesn't matter if they poorly researched the topic. People are gonna fall for this shit and start to put us bronies in a bad light.


[25-Jun-20 11:39 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Top-tier journalism, folks.


[25-Jun-20 11:43 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I can go on and on saying how bad America's journalism industry is at this point.


[25-Jun-20 11:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt it's an america-only problem


[25-Jun-20 11:45 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Oh right. How does it feel to fall under Daily Mail's lies?


[25-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Sun, Mirror, Metro, etc. are just a few UK ones that have _decades_ of experience in being clickbait before there was anything to click


[25-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, and Daily Mail, yes


[25-Jun-20 11:46 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Journalism has become so bad at this point that they managed to tarnish PewDiePie's reputation


[25-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@LeafyWasNotHere  they also interviewed a notorious 4chan troll and asked his opinion


[25-Jun-20 11:47 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Sorry fella, I don't know that much about 4chan. I joined this fandom since October 2019 and I only know some parts of it


[25-Jun-20 11:48 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Remember this? https://twitter.com/jacknicas/status/832474605637955585

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Jack Nicas (@jacknicas)
https://twitter.com/jacknicas/status/832474605637955585
Here is PewDiePie's response to our story:
https://t.co/0mR3deHWGs
Twitter


[25-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Basically they interviewed a pony-hating troll. Who constantly calls mlp a show for retarded children.


[25-Jun-20 11:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Was this before or during the fandom was at its prime?


[25-Jun-20 11:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, they interviewed the barney shitposter?


[25-Jun-20 11:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wootmaster.


[25-Jun-20 11:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[25-Jun-20 11:51 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Was the troll's opinion fabricated by WSJ?


[25-Jun-20 11:51 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Oh sorry, I meant SJW


[25-Jun-20 11:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But yeah. Wootmaster is barney and friends shitposter.


[25-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Spamming threads and proving how stupid is fim.


[25-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really doubt he still goes to /mlp/ anymore


[25-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminds me I haven't seen any Tracey stuff in ages


[25-Jun-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/504454-3-north-carolina-police-officers-fired-after-conversation-about

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/504454-3-north-carolina-police-officers-fired-after-conversation-about
3 North Carolina police officers fired after conversation about 'sl...
Three police officers in North Carolina have been fired after they were heard on camera making racist comments, including the use of racial epithets and references to “slaughtering” Black people, police said Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/policelinetape11032017getty_1.jpg


[25-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
These the ones from yesterday?


[25-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
yep


[25-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> However, each officer also denied being racist, based on the report.

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[25-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Williams said he is recommending that the officers will not be eligible for rehire in the city and will notify the North Carolina Criminal Justice Training and Standards Commission of their behavior.
Just means they'll move to another state and get fast tracked in a new department


[25-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They were clearly meme-ing, right?


[25-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[25-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Btw. In such times, will there be more strict rules about language on this server?
So people do not snatch anything out of context.


[25-Jun-20 12:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Especially after that dumb article.


[25-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, I'm barely outside of this channel


[25-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it'd be sad


[25-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The out of context shit is usually funny, but taken literally everyone looks like hitler or a moron


[25-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Some people on twitter started to diss on derpi, taking that article seriously.
Wonder how it turns out.


[25-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4yiAU8LLDM

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Pasco County, Florida — On Wednesday June 17, Pasco Sheriff's Office deputies responded to Auto Zone in reference to an unwanted guest complaint where a subject was reportedly en...
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[25-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Stoopedhooy dumb people on twitter have lots of power these days so yea


[25-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I think at most they may just ask arts to be deleted from derpi


[25-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
But who gives shit about ponies  about derpi


[25-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Artists that draw ponies?


[25-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
They might leave derpi


[25-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I mean, you do not exist to most fans unless you post at derpi.


[25-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter's just Tumblr lagging 5 years behind, they'll ban NSFW in a year


[25-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And if Trump loses, they'll lose their main clownshow attraction


[25-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
How many candidates there's gonna be on 2020 elections


[25-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Two?


[25-Jun-20 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a few but msot people will only vote for 2 of them


[25-Jun-20 12:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which are Biden and Trump


[25-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I recall reading Biden was opposing such things as bus system for schools? 
What makes him popular?


[25-Jun-20 12:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt trump


[25-Jun-20 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that about sums up biden's campaign "Vote for me, i'm not Trump"


[25-Jun-20 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He was also Obama's vice president, which to some people automatically qualifies you for nostalgia based presidency


[25-Jun-20 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also appeals to the centrists who vote for him because he appeals to the moderates


[25-Jun-20 12:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wonder what will he do if become a president.
Maybe undo stuff Trump did.


[25-Jun-20 12:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will give him a lot of  easy approval I bet.


[25-Jun-20 12:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0QJwrp07JQ

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Cleveland, Ohio — Ohio’s Wickliffe Police Department released footage showing a February incident during which an officer used a Taser on a man. The incident begin when the offic...
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[25-Jun-20 12:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t approve of biden, but if he's what gets trump out of office then so be it


[25-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Some people said the same thing about Hillary


[25-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Worst case scenario Biden is as bad as Trump, so may as well vote Biden on the offchance he's not


[25-Jun-20 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
personally i;d rather fuck the 2 party system and just vote green, but that does nothing this election


[25-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At the very least his cabinet won't be loaded with sycophants


[25-Jun-20 12:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or at least, the sycophants and puppeteers who do ride his coattails won't be as fascist


[25-Jun-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and there's a possibility that if he dies in office his VP will be a much better president


[25-Jun-20 12:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't be worse than "shoot them in the leg" Biden


[25-Jun-20 12:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>inb4 harris


[25-Jun-20 12:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if biden's elected, stephen miller's neck is on the line


[25-Jun-20 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my question is, what if both biden  and trump die before election day? do we jsut get 4 years of nancy pelosi or...


[25-Jun-20 01:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If biden's elected DC hardware stores are gonna run out of paper shredders and power drills


[25-Jun-20 01:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Power drills..?


[25-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Good for hard drives


[25-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, bad for them, but you know


[25-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I recall Biden was planning to cut down on oil and gas drilling.


[25-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Politicians say a lot of things


[25-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And love inertia


[25-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If Biden wins there's not going to be a rush to undo all the shit Trump did (or undid)


[25-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah. It is kind of old too.
https://www.currentargus.com/story/news/local/2020/03/19/joe-biden-vows-ban-oil-and-gas-drilling-if-elected-president/2869963001/

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Joe Biden vows to ban oil and gas drilling if elected President, dr...
At Sunday’s debate hosted by CNN and Univision, Biden called for a complete ban on oil and gas drilling on federal land – fracking or not.
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[25-Jun-20 01:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You watch as he changes his tune if his numbers look possible in places where fracking drives the economy


[25-Jun-20 01:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[25-Jun-20 01:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wut


[25-Jun-20 01:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget the DNC is heavily lobbied by oil. Oil & gas *really* want to be deregulated


[25-Jun-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-dismisses-devin-nunes-cow-lawsuit-against-twitter-parody-accounts-2020-6

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Judge rules that GOP Rep. Devin Nunes cannot sue Twitter over tweet...
Nunes is seeking $250 million in damages and claimed that the parody accounts ruined his reputation.
https://i.insider.com/5e6f5b34c4854078f87e3073?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jun-20 02:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/phBk30Z.jpg

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Do it again, John
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[25-Jun-20 02:52 PM] wren#0114
kek


[25-Jun-20 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sazcZ8wwZc

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I'm Suing the White House, CIA, and DOJ.  Really.
The government won’t respond to my FOIA requests.  So I’m going to make them.  If you could support this litigation and the National Security Counselors, we’d greatly appreciate it: https://donate.democracyengine.com/NationalSecurityCounselors/contribute

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[25-Jun-20 02:58 PM] byte[]#2610
"The government won’t respond to my FOIA requests.  So I’m going to make them."


[25-Jun-20 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh dang


[25-Jun-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-palm-beach-florida-mask-backlash-parks-and-recreation-2020-6

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Residents of Palm Beach County, Florida, erupted at a county commis...
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[25-Jun-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BrodyLogan/status/1275935249889779712

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[25-Jun-20 04:38 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
The statue thing bothers me because the people supporting it are hypocrites. They think FDR is one of the greatest presidents ever when he forced Japanese Americans into concentration camps. You'll see lots of college students wearing Che Guevara shirts when he was a black-hating, communist mass murderer. They say Karl Marx was an intellectual who was right about a lot of things with no mention of how he hated Jews, gays, blacks, and Hispanics. We've seen multiple western world leaders like Justin Trudeau give glowing eulogies of mass murdering communist dictator Fidel Castro. There are plenty of people they lionize where they're totally willing to forget and look past all the horrible things those people did to venerate them for some perceived good they did. So why can't we do that for people from colonial and confederate times? How are they different? Why are they the ones who have to have commemorations erased and always mentioned all the bad things they did and believed? In the 2010s, George Washington went from "one of the greatest presidents ever, an American legend, hero" to "old, dead, white, racist slave owner", so why can't FDR get a similar treatment? I don't get this. Getting rid of these American memorials wouldn't bother me so much if it weren't for the total hypocrisy.


[25-Jun-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
what if we just don't want statues of people period?


[25-Jun-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
memorializing anyone in a statue is unlikely to end well for a variety of reasons


[25-Jun-20 05:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yes, some things do not age well.


[25-Jun-20 05:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sadface:


[25-Jun-20 05:32 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
There are statues of people. We live in a society. Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. There are people in the world. Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

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[25-Jun-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Statues to people very rarely work out well, no


[25-Jun-20 05:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You put someone on a pedestal, they better have been from before there was a semblance of accurate history keeping


[25-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Synfag#9241
I feel more sorry for the sculptors that were commissioned to make those statues


[25-Jun-20 05:48 PM] Synfag#9241
think about it


[25-Jun-20 05:49 PM] Synfag#9241
they got that gig
they thought would still be standing decades later


[25-Jun-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/stimulus-checks-dead-people-treasury-department-sent-trump-billion-amount-2020-6

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The Treasury Department sent dead people more than 1 million stimul...
The report comes as the Trump administration weighs whether to push for more direct payments to Americans, though the White House is split.
https://i.insider.com/5d5678f5cd97845e652b5854?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jun-20 05:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:bigbrain:


[25-Jun-20 05:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wont-quarantine-new-jersey-white-house-says-2020-6

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Trump won't follow New Jersey's coronavirus quarantine order becaus...
New Jersey just issued an order that requires people who recently traveled to states with high numbers of COVID-19 cases to quarantine for 14 days.
https://i.insider.com/5ef4a6b63ad86155e5058424?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jun-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump won't follow New Jersey's coronavirus quarantine order because he's 'not a civilian,' White House says


[25-Jun-20 05:54 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just wait until he gets the rona


[25-Jun-20 05:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, the biggest dicks always get off scott free


[25-Jun-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The new jersey governor basically gave him a free pass by labeling him an essential worker


[25-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
RT of course had an op ed about how horrible Derpibooru is


[25-Jun-20 06:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And in the spirit of free speech I will say


[25-Jun-20 06:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hope an American writing it and bending over for a rag designed to do nothing but fellate a corrupt dictator can go live in the country she loves


[25-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Furthermore


[25-Jun-20 06:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eat shit.


[25-Jun-20 06:37 PM] jlun2#8758
how many artists DNP over that so far


[25-Jun-20 06:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno but I'd bet it'd be pretty easy to say wootmaster trolled the writer of the article into asking loaded questions to fit his prejudice


[25-Jun-20 06:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That'd be one hell of a cosmic brain play if that were the case


[25-Jun-20 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1276192127828066304?s=19

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[25-Jun-20 06:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377373/Shootout-leaves-six-dead-including-cartel-cell-leader-Facebook-live-concert-recording.html

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Cartel 'cell leader', five other killed during live concert recording
On Friday, gunmen in Mexico killed six people including Francisco Navarrete, the alleged leader a Jalisco New Generation Cartel's cell in Veracruz. He also founded a local newspaper.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/01/19/29090178-0-image-a-20_1591037102000.jpg


[25-Jun-20 06:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Make sure we put a picture of a qt girl at the bottom of the article to reward our readers


[25-Jun-20 06:58 PM] jlun2#8758
people coming here expecting derpi to be some right wing haven due to article will be disappointed as hell


[25-Jun-20 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah, not that :bigbrain:


[25-Jun-20 06:59 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Isn't... most of that stuff filtered by default anyway?


[25-Jun-20 06:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"journalists" always looking for a scoop


[25-Jun-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO if you're an American and write for a government mouthpiece like this, you should at minimum be on a list


[25-Jun-20 07:00 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"Yeah its on the site but you have to  jump through at least two hoops to find it, and one of those hoops explicitly tells you 'hey uhhhh you might see some shit so uhhhh you've been warned :isee:'"


[25-Jun-20 07:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You only get loaded questions like that on a subject that isn't common knowledge unless someone has given them a tree to bark up


[25-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know who Wootmaster is though


[25-Jun-20 07:02 PM] jlun2#8758
nope


[25-Jun-20 07:02 PM] jlun2#8758
never heard of them until now


[25-Jun-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, they didn't ask loaded questions. He responded like that on his own volition.


[25-Jun-20 07:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our people are still fighting against the fucking dog meat ban


[25-Jun-20 07:03 PM] jlun2#8758
eat doggo :sombralick:


[25-Jun-20 07:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their slogan is "give me dog meat or give me death"


[25-Jun-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
i want to try dog though


[25-Jun-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking  is he DNP on derpi


[25-Jun-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[25-Jun-20 07:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Westerners use the Chinese dog meat and other things like Tencent as an excuse to be racist


[25-Jun-20 07:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Its, what I'm saying is, woot probably tipped off the author, who then used him as a source asking primed questions


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shitloads of dogs are treated poorly in the US, pretty much everything but being killed for food


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans don't give a fuck.


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Honahue#0656
he'd have to be a piss poor journalist to get played that hard by some rando off the internet


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Amazon, Google, and FB steal all of our data


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We only care about Tencent because it's Chinese


[25-Jun-20 07:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And he is.


[25-Jun-20 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were just commenting on The Atlantic article


[25-Jun-20 07:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Almost all comments online we here is like "being able to eat dog meat is a basic human right that the government can never take away from people"


[25-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Honahue#0656
dog meat is the Chinese version of wearing a mask in the US


[25-Jun-20 07:08 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like they will overthrown CCP if they can't eat dogmeat


[25-Jun-20 07:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, if not woot, then some other troll. You don't get something like that out of the blue. How long has it been since we hid the nazi tag?


[25-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, it's crocodile tears steeped in racism


[25-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How many of these people in the US give no fucks about puppy mills?


[25-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The Atlantic messaged anyone on social media asking for a comment


[25-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Honahue#0656
just cause you hid the tag doesn't mean there isn't a problem


[25-Jun-20 07:11 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I wonder how many people that are up in arms against Tencent realize how much they'd have to give up if they decided to boycott Tencent


[25-Jun-20 07:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
And even if they did, Facebook still knows who you are, Google still knows where you are, and Amazon...


[25-Jun-20 07:13 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...Amazon knows what you buy I guess? I didn't think very far ahead with this analogy. :shrugpony:


[25-Jun-20 07:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are fine with their data being collected as long as it's white people doing it


[25-Jun-20 07:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My QQ account just got banned by Tencent for posting nudes

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[25-Jun-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Making Xi cry


[25-Jun-20 07:15 PM] Honahue#0656

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[25-Jun-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
poor winnie the pooh has had his eyes defiled


[25-Jun-20 07:17 PM] jlun2#8758
wait. china has a gay dating app but no nudes allowed? so do people just rub each other's  clothed crotches suggestively?


[25-Jun-20 07:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Nudes are allowed in personal message


[25-Jun-20 07:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But I got reported for sexual harassment


[25-Jun-20 07:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because I posted my nudes to a straight man and ask for his nudes in return


[25-Jun-20 07:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I thought he's gay...


[25-Jun-20 07:20 PM] jlun2#8758
🤦


[25-Jun-20 07:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway the ban only continues for a week


[25-Jun-20 07:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've been like... banned for four times already


[25-Jun-20 07:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Last time was I kept asking for dick pictures, but didn't know she's a girl


[25-Jun-20 07:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:depressed:


[25-Jun-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-greg-abbott-pause-reopening-as-covid-cases-surge-2020-6

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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has 'paused' the reopening of the state as c...
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[25-Jun-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Ok. so our plan to sacrifice your grandmothers was a bust. However, that doesn;t mean we failed! We just hit a road bump"


[25-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe you will like this shitpost

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[25-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Good use of that meme


[25-Jun-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/504567-yahoo-music-editor-it-might-be-time-for-a-new-national-anthem

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[25-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Agreed


[25-Jun-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It should be "This Land is Your Land"


[25-Jun-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or "John Brown's Body" (Not Battle Hymn of the Republic)


[25-Jun-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit, even Yankee Doodle would be better


[25-Jun-20 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BskL-ga4DLk

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[25-Jun-20 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
When we take the state and get the tanks to turn Mount Rushmore into gravel.


[25-Jun-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[25-Jun-20 09:09 PM] AaronMk#4499
So sad, this is the Mormon version


[25-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Not reforming Mormonism into a collectivist socialist Christian sect that worships Mormon Jesus as the first socialist


[25-Jun-20 09:56 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[25-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Welp, so much for the good friday agreement...


[25-Jun-20 10:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"this land is your land" would actually be a terrible anthem. I know it was written with the intent of being one, but...


[25-Jun-20 10:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Have you actually looked into what it's saying? It's manifest destiny nationalism in the worst way


[25-Jun-20 10:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially the "no trespassing" verse


[25-Jun-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
proud to be an american would be a really bad one too


[25-Jun-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from my understanding it;s about a family losing everything and then the father celebratign the fact that he lives in a country that gives him the "freedom" to lose everything


[25-Jun-20 10:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Lotta people writing jingoistic anthems, it seems


[25-Jun-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that song needs a way more sarcastic tone but it is alas completely unironic :hopeless:


[25-Jun-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just glad it;s not everywhere like it used to be


[25-Jun-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after 9/11 that song just took off liek a firework and  popped up everywhere from schools to malls


[25-Jun-20 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Modern lyrics of america the beautiful might be ok


[25-Jun-20 10:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some people might object to the second verse but later verses are not at all problematic imo. Plus, it's a better melody!


[25-Jun-20 10:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Shitpost I found

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[25-Jun-20 10:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh it is easy, but whatever


[25-Jun-20 10:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a snuck premise


[25-Jun-20 10:39 PM] AaronMk#4499
> Especially the "no trespassing" verse
@WingbeatPony 

That line wraps the whole thing off. It indicates the common ownership we have of the land, that we live on it in communion and no one person can take it from us all.


[25-Jun-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better cabinet administration


[25-Jun-20 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If there is a sign that says "no trespassing" on one side and nothing on the other, and you're standing on the blank side, the sign applies to everyone else. ie. not american


[25-Jun-20 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
America belongs to *us,* not *them*


[25-Jun-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the personal ideals of the guy who wrote it reflect that


[25-Jun-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe an anthem with no lyrics


[25-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"In the shadow of the steeple I saw my people, 
By the relief office I seen my people; 
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking 
Is this land made for you and me"


[25-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Rhyming people with people


[25-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Woody Guthrie, the original rapper


[25-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@WingbeatPony I thought the idea was the guy trespassed anyway and on the other side it said nothing


[25-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The verse I always heard was


[25-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
Sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn't say nothing;
This land was made for you and me."


[25-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guthrie also wrote Roll On Columbia so don't deify him


[25-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, it appears the song got Bowlderized to remove the part about how "we hung every Indian with smoke in his gun"


[25-Jun-20 11:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In case it wasn't perfectly clear, the interpretation I gave  is not an ideal we should aspire to


[25-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I strongly doubt that's what _Woody Guthrie_ of all people meant the verse to be interpreted as


[25-Jun-20 11:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even so, the take you gave isn't any better. Still manifest destiny, but this time establishing it instead of enforcing a fully realized one


[25-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think your interpretation was written by Mecha Guthrie

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[25-Jun-20 11:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
America the beautiful goes in on the MD too, but without exclusions


[25-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Any American song is going to have MD in it


[25-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
||This robot is trained to fuck you in the mouth.||


[25-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/26/us/dukakis-lead-widens-according-to-new-poll.html

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[25-Jun-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's hard because yes, md is a core american concept, but we achieved it in a pretty horrible way


[25-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Guthrie's idea is "No one can really make our country private property, it belongs to us all"


[25-Jun-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why the song gets called communist sometimes


[25-Jun-20 11:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So I'm all for an anthem that calls for us to always strive to be better and to stand up for our ideals


[25-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgOH_tq7-Q

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Lift Every Voice and Sing with Lyrics
if you 'new' brothers and sisters continue to speak ill on these ancestors of mine you will force me to go hard body. RESPECT IT you silly ass fool.
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[25-Jun-20 11:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The bit of star spangled banner we sing kiiiinda evokes it


[25-Jun-20 11:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But later verses of the alternative I've mentioned do a better job of it


[25-Jun-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If not for the pesky verse about pilgrims, it'd be great


[25-Jun-20 11:27 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/24/dear-greta-norilsk-oil-spill/https://therussianreader.com/2020/06/24/dear-greta-norilsk-oil-spill/

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[25-Jun-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And that's the problem with all of them


[25-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
America the Beautiful mentions God too much.


[25-Jun-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Oh beautiful for pilgrim feet

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[25-Jun-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Suddenly Ben Shapiro wants this as the anthem


[25-Jun-20 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Lol


[25-Jun-20 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Clearly, then, our anthem should be Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell


[25-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[25-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Synfag fukk the guy who made the statues, why does he deserve ANYTHING? He got paid, he doesn't need his work to remain.


[25-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bet-founder-robert-johnson-democrats-taking-black-voters-for-granted-blm-party

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[25-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@otelocarvalho/socialism-today-in-vietnam-ac22ce2edf47

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How Socialist is Vietnam?
Marx was a great analyst, but he never gave us a formula for running a country…socialism is whatever bring happiness to the people -Võ…
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[25-Jun-20 11:53 PM] AaronMk#4499
> socialism is whatever bring happiness to the people

Already garbage


[25-Jun-20 11:54 PM] AaronMk#4499
Vietnam produces for exchange on the market, not production for use. Therefore it is not. Discussion over. Read Bordiga.


[25-Jun-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
> Inasmuch as we are as yet unable to pass directly from small production to socialism, some capitalism is inevitable as the elemental product of small production and exchange; so that we must utilise capitalism (particularly by directing it into the channels of state capitalism) as the intermediary link between small production and socialism, as a means, a path, and a method of increasing the productive forces. Lenin, 1921


[25-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think it's right to dismiss vietnam as capitalist and move on


[25-Jun-20 11:59 PM] AaronMk#4499
Then you call it capitalist or state-capitalist. You do not call your capitalism socialism the way Stalin did. That is what Lenin realized, that the USSR would have to develop capitalism in order to develop socialism. But the development of capitalism to socialism does not mean it is socialist.


[26-Jun-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
vietnam still has and uses the socialist framework its current government was founded on


[26-Jun-20 12:00 AM] AaronMk#4499
It is even a mistake, as the Stalinists proved, to even expect socialism in a single country since the autarky this would demand would just throw it back into feudalism. By neccesity of even developing capitalism as a productive stage it would need to enter the global market in production for exchange and the accumulation of wealth


[26-Jun-20 12:01 AM] ononim#8141
Didn't Vietnam took a crash course to economic liberization after unification


[26-Jun-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
> Throughout this article I have provided a very brief explanation of how socialism still exists in Vietnam. It is important to acknowledge that in Vietnam there is inequality, and the Market Socialist system in place is not perfect but to argue that Vietnam has completely abandoned the cause of Marxism-Leninism displays a complete misunderstanding of the current economic and political status of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The Communist Party of Vietnam faces an almost impossible task of building socialism and eventually communism in a state that has been constantly under attack by Western imperialism, and as such, Leftists around the world should provide critical support for Vietnam and the Communist Party.


[26-Jun-20 12:02 AM] AaronMk#4499
The economic-state structure of Vietnam is more closely aligned with that of Norway, but with steroids. Where Norway uses profits derived from its state-owned oil company to invest into investment portfolios to then feed its mass social wealfare programs.


[26-Jun-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
I'd say it's the only way to survive as a socialist state in the current political status quo (aka the US dominating everything)


[26-Jun-20 12:04 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot easier for capitalist economies to attack and destabilize socialist economies


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[26-Jun-20 12:04 AM] AaronMk#4499
Marxist-Leninists are garbage people and quoting the article does not help because it does not address the underlying argument: that it is producing for exchange and the accumulation of wealth. Its bourgeoisie being "good" and invested in the common welfare of The State is meaningless. Fascism can exercise the same programs and social structure as a means by which to dis-incentivize and suppress the broader proletarian movement.


[26-Jun-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, how would you propose running a fully socialist economy when you literally have hostile capitalist economies on all sides?


[26-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
An internationalist movement and not going, "lmao nation-hood".


[26-Jun-20 12:06 AM] AaronMk#4499
National Liberation was good in like, the 19th century. But the idea has run its course.


[26-Jun-20 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
that's basic human psychology you're trying to overcome, that would be a herculean undertaking that would ensure a place in legends for millennia for the people that were able to do it


[26-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jun-20 12:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Spot the difference.


[26-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Protip: there is none


[26-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Hence the terms being interchangeable


[26-Jun-20 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
the state having control of industries and services and the state having control of production and the use of capital are actually two different things


[26-Jun-20 12:17 AM] AaronMk#4499
In what way is it against basic human psychology? Because the modern nation-state is incredibly new, it's hardly an intrinsic function of humans. For eons people freely interacted with and even moved between groups of their peers. The development of the nation-state could only have come about as a means by which to control and restrict labor power so they can all participate in factory production at the conditions the national bourgeoisie wanted them too. From American history I can recall a number of conditions that acted towards or against the development of industry in this country: the rocky and hard scrabble New England states being difficulty to economically farm and a farmer's livelihood being no worse off in the factory as a proletarian, while contrasted against the south where generations of people could be independent yeoman farmers on their own land and could resist or reject industrial exploitation because they were not in any way dependent on things beyond the farm (to this end as I should mention: the production of cotton and sugar[cane] was the one thing no one wanted to do when they could walk away). The opening of The West for state-supporting colonization during and after the Civil War provided for a unique avenue of escape for people in the industrial north however and meant the bourgeoisie had to compete against those wages.

The later vs the land reform in England, which carried out a century long campaign against the commons to fence off and privatize traditionally shared land that saw the sustenance and independence of communities across the British isles, even as part-time serfs for much of it. But the fencing off of the public land for private capital acted as a means by which to force agricultural labor to the cities to be factory workers.

Strung into today, the necessity of capital requires a control of labor in restriction of who may or may not enter, or whose presence can be leveraged for cheap labor.


[26-Jun-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
@Crow Are industries and services not capital?


[26-Jun-20 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
no, capital is what makes up industries and services


[26-Jun-20 12:18 AM] AaronMk#4499
And besides, if you're going to take up the """essential""" character of the individual while supporting a "Marxist Leninist" then I raise you this Marx quote and call you a heretic of the most liberal order:

> "The human essence is no abstraction inherent in each single individual. In its reality it is the ensemble of the social relations."


[26-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, so Elon Musk owning Tesla isn't owning capital


[26-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
It's his owning the building, or something, that's ownership of capital?


[26-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't see the difference


[26-Jun-20 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
"having control of" is not necessarily "owning" something


[26-Jun-20 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
@AaronMk, even your own art and beliefs portray "the police" as an "out-group", that is what I mean by basic human psychology


[26-Jun-20 12:21 AM] Pontology#1010
If you have control of something in a way that cannot be legally challenged, that sounds like ownership.


[26-Jun-20 12:21 AM] Pontology#1010
If the control is absolute, that is, including evicting people from it just because you feel like it.


[26-Jun-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
it's really not, by that definition any regulation that prevents a business from doing something is a form of "ownership", and telling a business how they can and can't operate isn't the same as owning the business


[26-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, the state owns all public land (that's the definition of "public", government ownership), and partially owns private property


[26-Jun-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
inasmuch as it can unilaterally enforce state laws on private property


[26-Jun-20 12:24 AM] Pontology#1010
The state's ownership of private property is not 100%, but partial, corresponding to what it can do within the law (enter with warrant, etc)


[26-Jun-20 12:27 AM] AaronMk#4499
> @AaronMk, even your own art and beliefs portray "the police" as an "out-group", that is what I mean by basic human psychology
@Crow 
As a group created by the necessity of capital for its defense. Again individual nature is raised as a offspring of created conditions by the economic structure at large. Capital demands repression of the workers so it may operate, elsewise the workers get wise and unionize and they have to call in the military (as was the result of the Luddite rebellion, the first major modern industrial revolt (not the first labor action that was in Rome though and a strike against the Senate)). As is the case if Capital were to deploy the Pinkertons or Blackwater, armed enforcement and maintenance of ownership is a necessary condition to maintaining the class identities that arise naturally from capitalism: there are those who own and those who do not. The individuals on either can be perfectly fine people and absent the conditions that create them, nothing need not happen because there is no reason to.


[26-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
so what happens when private ownership of capital is abolished then? the psychology of humanity doesn't just disappear after the current "enemy" is defeated, and there'll always be the potential that capital begins to consolidate again, and then the problem starts all over again


[26-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Pontology#1010
capital just accumulates in the state, hence socialists tending to call nearly every instance of socialism like the USSR and Cuba "state capitalism"


[26-Jun-20 12:31 AM] AaronMk#4499
Again you're arguing from a case of essentialism and is flawed. If the abolition of feudalism should have seen the execution of all nobles and priests by the merchants; then there would be no Bourbons, no Bonapartists, and so on. Yet they exist all the same in Europe. Even heirs to the Qing Empire are permitted to exist. The antagonisms to the class and the structure do not often carry over to the people who were members of it. All that has tended to happen is an end to their privilege and animosity withers when the revolution is over.


[26-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
80% of American millionaires are completely self-made, received no inheritance at all


[26-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
The "capitalist class" is not inherited, but made anew each generation


[26-Jun-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
https://humanprogress.org/article.php?p=152

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High Turnover Among America's Rich
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[26-Jun-20 12:34 AM] AaronMk#4499
Racial animosities like White vs Blacks or French vs Germans are a condition of the supposed state structure. For instance: the crucible of early German nationalism and unification was "we're not French". Likewise, the class and national identities of Whites and Blacks is purely political manifestation of those classes who would benefit, namely rich heirs to southern plantation wealth and the industrial barons of the north who learned to antagonize differences to stop unionization. The animosity comes from outside.


[26-Jun-20 12:35 AM] Pontology#1010
t. Tucker Carlson

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[26-Jun-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
well, reality is essentialist to some extent, humans and animals are born with certain instincts that drive them to survive and propagate, there's psychological phenomena that can be applied to humans universally (stuff like cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, etc)


[26-Jun-20 12:36 AM] AaronMk#4499
Stop being Jordan Peterson you pseud


[26-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Pontology#1010
You're talking to Crow? Saying reality is essentialist to an extent is pseud?


[26-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Psychologists have found essentialism in many places. Not everything is socially constructed.


[26-Jun-20 12:38 AM] Pontology#1010
There are some psychological invariants that occur in literally every people and culture.


[26-Jun-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
you just used an ad hominem in response to my claim that there are psychological phenomena which are found in all humans, that is the opposite of constructive discussion


[26-Jun-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
but whatever, if you don't actually care about persuading people to your side, I can dig it


[26-Jun-20 12:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Even personality is partially heritable.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5068715/

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[26-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[26-Jun-20 12:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
OK, that is _definitely_ not a normal garage door pull rope


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Photographic evidence shows it's been there since last Fall, long before anyone could have known he'd be there


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Could just just an edgy boi


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Pontology#1010
At bronycon, one of my friends tied nooses and hung pony plushes from them

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[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Pontology#1010
because he's an edgelord


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it wasn't targeted at him


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it wasn't some confusion about what it looked like


[26-Jun-20 12:44 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah


[26-Jun-20 12:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whoever made it wanted it to look like a noose, but could have been as a joke about suicide or old westerns or they just had too much slack and got creative


[26-Jun-20 12:45 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jun-20 12:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com
This triggers me


[26-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
`Legal eagle in 2019: let's see how many laws we're broken in willy Wonka and the chocolate factory lol

Legal eagle in 2020: I'm suing the federal government`
:glowing_eyes:


[26-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh damn that's real


[26-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I regularly check fox news, wsj, daily caller, breitbart, etc


[26-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I only meant the url itself


[26-Jun-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
a57.derpibooru.org/static.derpibooru.org/derpibooru.org/therestoftheimage


[26-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ah, yes


[26-Jun-20 01:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like  the thrice nested discord image urls


[26-Jun-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/lawmakers-introduce-ban-on-federal-facial-recognition-technology-2020-6

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[26-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Good, something right-libertarians and progressives can agree on


[26-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.wpr.org/black-18-year-old-attacked-lighter-fluid-racial-slurs-downtown-madison

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The Madison Police Department is investigating an assault on an 18-year-old Black woman as a potential hate crime after she was burned on the face and neck early Wednesday morning.
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[26-Jun-20 02:18 AM] jlun2#8758
@Pontology i havent eaten take out for 2 months can i be a millionaire now pls like those economists


[26-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure, here are the stats on how they did it according to the survey of over 10,000 millionaires:

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[26-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
You can see, the average age at which they became millionaires was age 49.


[26-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Hope you have patience with your financial savvy.


[26-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're kind of disregarding that it's literally not possible to become a millionnaire off of working income alone for jobs that don't require you already basically be one.


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes millionnaires save money, but that's only a small part of how they become such.


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
millionaire off walmart :twiright:


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a point with money where you can grow yours ridiculously using the stokk market.


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] jlun2#8758
at min wage


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, a good education and good job are obviously pretty important


[26-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prior to such, you can't really ramp up.


[26-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good education and a good job won't get you to being a millionnaire.


[26-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is almost entirely by inheritance or stokk trading.


[26-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
And how do they get that money in the first place? Through the above techniques.


[26-Jun-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
good education with min wage :twiright:


[26-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Again, 79% received no inheritance whatsoever.


[26-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The data above says stokk trading, but not *single* stokk trading was it.


[26-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The data is clearly an attempt at manipulation.


[26-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is arguing one stokk gets you rich.


[26-Jun-20 02:31 AM] jlun2#8758
how do ppl start 401ks


[26-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's mainly investments in your own company and stuff outside too.


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, the data says 75% used consistent investing


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not duplicitous


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not earned.


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] jlun2#8758
how does 1 start investing


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of that money should be taken by force.


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
... that second picture says it takes 28 years just to hit $1 million in savings, but it doesn't go over the cost of living in the area at all


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
At gunpoint if necessary.


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
wtf


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] jlun2#8758
do i literally move to wall street


[26-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
People shouldn't get rich by not working.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
The price you pay for investing is taking on risk. You could equally well lose everything.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is unfair to the workers, who are what actually creates wealth.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
My parents made a lot of money through investing, then went bankrupt


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gambling should not make people money.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
That's the risk you take on by investing


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not free money


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
It's high-risk possible-money


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's random money.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arbitrary.


[26-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way to make it less so is to know secret shit you're not supposed to.


[26-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corruption should not come with rewards.


[26-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
It's investment in infrastructure, companies, and ideas. The reason you have your computer is people investing in the high-risk idea of a personal computer, something a lot of people poo-poo'd at the time as unfeasible


[26-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
And some people were willing to take that risk, possibly risking their whole lives on it


[26-Jun-20 02:34 AM] jlun2#8758
> investment in infrastructure
im still waiting for that :ts_cry:


[26-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
the value of stocks is generated by its workers, when its workers aren't receiving their fair share for their productivity, investment returns become little better than blood money


[26-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
When workers personally lose out if the company loses value, then I'll believe you


[26-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They do.


[26-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
they do...


[26-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
When a company collapses, workers get screwed.


[26-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're called "layoffs".


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000k8g6
29:21
interviewer: "I have met plenty of people upset about players taking a knee and having BLM on their shirts."
woman voice "when I saw the flag saying white lives matter i cheered. Just thought it's our turn now. I'm not a prejudice person, I like the blacks. But we don't have a voice now I don't think"

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[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. That's different from the workers having to _return their earnings_ to the company


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
They keep every penny they make, hard cash


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
While those who invested in the bankrupt company lose literally everything


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you talking about workers returning their earnings?


[26-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm saying the difference between earning an income working for a company, and investing in it


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to work for a company to invest in it.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it is crazy that you don't automatically always get investment from working.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"The UK doesn't have a racism problem. BLM has imported it from the US" - some conservative in parliament I can't remember the name of. :wheeze:


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Workers should be the primary beneficiaries off of a company's value increasing.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The money belongs to them.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
That's called worker co-ops


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
And they exist


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should not be the last mouths fed.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
All companies should be co-ops.


[26-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other companies should be illegal.


[26-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Not everyone wants their income to be dependent on the growth of the company


[26-Jun-20 02:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Some people just want a steady, fixed income


[26-Jun-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
> Marx was a great analyst, but he never gave us a formula for running a country…socialism is whatever bring happiness to the people


[26-Jun-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
damn


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
I knew that socialism was pretty much a useless word that can mean anything you want


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
But that's a new milestone


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Pontology#1010
@PwnyPony I think they're referring to that there's no problem with UK police


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
I'd actually say that most people would prefer to make more money the harder they work


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Pontology#1010
UK police killed only two people last year, and one was that london bridge terrorist


[26-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You still get a steady, fixed income with co-ops...


[26-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
you just get extra on top.


[26-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
and yeah, there's still a baseline income for working at a co-op


[26-Jun-20 02:40 AM] jlun2#8758
> steady, fixed income 
UBI pls


[26-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie There was a pizza co-op in my previous city. It was closed on Sunday and Monday. There were always long lines. It was extremely popular. But they had no motivation to hire more people to be open Monday because of the way incentives work with co-ops. The incentives for hiring are backwards.


[26-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Obviously if they can financially stay afloat, they do. But it's not an optimal model for delivering goods and services that meet the demand.


[26-Jun-20 02:43 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[26-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
that... doesn't sound right, it makes no sense to stay closed and not hire more people despite popular demand, even as a cooperative


[26-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
more time open = more profits = bigger dividend


[26-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
@Crow the profits from Monday would just go to the workers hired to work on Monday. It doesn't benefit the people already in the co-op.


[26-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a very odd mechanism.


[26-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
that flies in the face of what a cooperative is supposed to be


[26-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
I'm thinking it might not have actually been a cooperative


[26-Jun-20 02:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Might be union rules.


[26-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
:shrug: https://cheeseboardcollective.coop/

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[26-Jun-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> cheese board collective
:chryslaugh:


[26-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Honahue#0656
I've worked at pizza places and Sunday and Monday are usually pretty slow unless theres a game but if they're closed those 2 days then cooperatively the people said they value some days off than extra cash


[26-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, and they don't hire anyone to work those days despite there always being long lines when they're open


[26-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
That's what I mean by co-ops not allocating resources efficiently


[26-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Honahue#0656
its pizza not medicine who cares


[26-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
It's perfectly in their right, of course, part of freedom of association


[26-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Just, not an optimal model for meeting supply-demand curves.


[26-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Honahue#0656
okay they'd likely stil have long lines if they hired more people, called marginalizm the store they have might not have the capacity for more anyway so it'd just be crowding and making things worse


[26-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
pizza has to be in the oven for a certain amount of time an the oven is only so big


[26-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Honahue#0656
hiring more people might just end up being that stupid well 1 woman makes a babby in 9 months 9 women could make 1 in 1 month


[26-Jun-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
so diminishing returns (At some point, adding more workers causes problems) & Amdahl's law (more workers doesnt bake pizza faster in oven)


[26-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I just don't see why they'd adopt that rule, or why being a co-op leads to it.


[26-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it sounds like the business was doing well enough that they could've expanded to a second location, but I guess the workers weren't interested in that


[26-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Co-ops by their nature are supposed to distribute, not segregate worker categories.


[26-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah there's not much point if the worker feel they're getting paid enough and have time off they enjoy


[26-Jun-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/504426-trump-faces-obamacare-court-deadline-as-political-ground-shifts

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[26-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Crow#5457
businesses shouldn't be judged on how big they can get or how much they expand


[26-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
May 31/June 1 was the crossover

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[26-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
that's the point they get to make that choice instead of some corporate asshole demanding more sales and less workers to make a %


[26-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Honahue#0656
it's pizza too not something vitally important, no one is dying cause they can't get some pepperoni


[26-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Honahue#0656
working at a pizza place in a college town during covid we've seen a huge hit in sales from last year cause all the students went home and there's no sports but still get some marketing asshole wondering why we don't get higher numbers


[26-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/25/for_conservatives_its_fantasy_scotus_ahead_of_2020_143537.html

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Conservative insiders knew plenty about the controversies but little about the substance of the candidate barreling his way toward the 2016 presidential nomination.
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[26-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Synfag#9241
co-op were a distributist idea
where instead of big business
small business ownerships are encouraged
or one company owned by co-op
only thing that involved government intervention
is the scale of which the company reaches
before it is to be broken up
or to be converted into a co-op

but **socialism needed** something to save face
so they took the co-op idea
and remove the concept of ownership in it
and say it's run by workers
not owners
and enforced by government
and owned by government instead

it's like you are an artist and you made art
then some guy took your art
change the color of the background
erased the original artist's name
then claim he made it


[26-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Synfag#9241
and since lies repeated enough becomes truth


[26-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Synfag#9241
co-op is a socialist thing now


[26-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
co-ops aren't even the socialist end goal, maybe DSA's but the hell of capitalism isn't that the firm has a boss it's that there's a firm


[26-Jun-20 03:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Here it is without the need for BBC site.

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[26-Jun-20 03:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The old guy at 1min in blaming BLM for Trans people. :wheeze:


[26-Jun-20 03:12 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking I wonder what would happen as the judges views diverge from the nation


[26-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Pontology#1010
The whole point of the Supreme Court is over-riding democratic majorities.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/supreme-court-majority/572422/

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The Constitution protects the rights of minorities—and despite their rhetoric, both Republicans and Democrats support that.
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[26-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Their job is to safeguard the Constitution from democratic majorities whose preferred policy prescriptions contradict it.


[26-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[26-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're supposed to stop a government from giving into impulses of the masses


[26-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But they should never take away rights


[26-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-hands-big-win-trump-expelling-immigrants-seeking-asylum-n1232117

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The 7-2 ruling allows people to be deported without judicial review of their cases.
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[26-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, "nah courts can't see your case"


[26-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Even Ginsberg concurred. Foreign nationals aren't U.S. citizens and the constitution doesn't fully apply to them.


[26-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not letting them challenge US decisions is a problem.


[26-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the US does something to harm you, and you can't seek relief in US courts, and you can't seek relief in your home country's courts, how can you seek relief?


[26-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
This just givs free reign over how the US treats foreigners.


[26-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just like the ruling before that US agents can shoot people on the border, and said people can't seek relief for the injury.


[26-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just removes accountability.


[26-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing the US does should be beyond purview of the judiciary other than the mechanism to deal with a bad judge.


[26-Jun-20 03:25 AM] jlun2#8758
no way to ever undo this then?


[26-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only later decisions.


[26-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This decision will hav pretty far-reaching implications.


[26-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Or constitutional amendments


[26-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good lukk making one of those.


[26-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
You make a fair point, but they're not Americans anyway. If they wind up being persecuted in their home country after having their asylum claim rejected, there are lots of other places for them to appeal to for asylum.


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Think of it this way


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not really the case in these situations.


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Pontology#1010
If the Supreme Court had ruled the other way, every single rejected asylum claim could appeal their decision, clogging up the court system with foreign nationals


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what a court system is for.


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the US returns these people to their origin countries.


[26-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Court system is for Americans, not the world.


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That can lead to them immediately dying.


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Our obligation to foreigners is secondary.


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> clogging up the court system
no promised magic AI lawyers


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think we should treat non-americans as lesser, merely with less obligations towards them because they hav less to our country.


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> That can lead to them immediately dying
pretty sure thats their point unless its a white male


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, that's their point.


[26-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive immediately decides person X is too brown, sends them bakk


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
no judicial review allowed.


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie Suppose it's appealed, and still rejected, and it turned out it was somehow legitimate. Then you have the same situation. I don't think it holds much water.


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
if its a white dude (even better, christain), welcome to 🇺🇸


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the point of judicial review is that if there's merit, judges decide


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem here is the Executive is acting alone with no chekk on its authority


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means it can deny people who do qualify


[26-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
it can just ignore the evidence and no judge can say that was wrong to do.


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] jlun2#8758
> no chekk on its authority
let me guess. if biden gets elected & does that GOP will do anything to stop it


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden could literally allow every immigrant in


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
courts would hav no say


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the reverse problem Republicans now face.


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] jlun2#8758
GOP will def stop it then, got it


[26-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't challenge these decisions, then the Executive can do whatever it wants.


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
These are the judicial branch, not executive, no?


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
might have misunderstood


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
To my knowledge, the initial claim processing is by the Executive.


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
ok


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, executive branch has a lot of power over immigration


[26-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unchekked power in any form is not really okay in the Amercian system...


[26-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not unchecked. Supreme Court does its job and has prevented excesses


[26-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But these decisions are now unchekked.


[26-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS has ruled courts can't see these decisions.


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is different from the gerrymandering problem, where SCOTUS said it was for state courts to decide.


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Hypothetically, I guess the executive could now just reject every single asylum claim, is what you're saying


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
In this case, they're saying it's for no court to decide.


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's what appears to be the case.


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/504651-fox-news-polls-trump-biden-neck-and-neck-in-georgia-texas-and-north

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Fox News polls: Trump, Biden neck-and-neck in Georgia, North Carolina
President Trump trails his presumptive Democratic opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden (D), in several key states, according to Fox News polls released Thursday evening.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpd2_06232020getty.jpg


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And is Trump's intent.


[26-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, actually his intent is to reject all from certain countries/races.


[26-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I'll believe it when I see it


[26-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I haven't seen it yet


[26-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
There've been numerous cases of obvious merit to claims of facing violence upon returning that were denied


[26-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
including ones where said people **actually fukking died as a result**


[26-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not perfect. Under Obama, 43% of asylum applications were denied.


[26-Jun-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure some of them were legitimate, too.


[26-Jun-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-3-asylum-seekers-who-left-israel-executed-by-isis-1.5353571

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[26-Jun-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old story but a relevent example


[26-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not asking for perfection, I'm asking for judicial review before we send people to their deaths.


[26-Jun-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2019/dec/13/asylum-seeker-sent-back-mexico-murdered-tijuana/

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Asylum-Seeker Sent Back To Mexico Is Killed In Tijuana
The 35-year-old man, his wife and children had been sent back to Mexico under the controversial “Remain-in-Mexico” program, which makes U.S. asylum-seekers wait in Mexico while their claims are processed.
https://kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2019/07/16/IMG_3944.jpg


[26-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking thoughts?


[26-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Pontology#1010
He wasn't even Mexican. He was Salvadorean.


[26-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
...does that matter?


[26-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Pontology#1010
If the Salvadorean drug cartel went all the way to Mexico to find and kill him, rest assured the U.S. border wouldn't be an issue either


[26-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/hundreds-deported-u-s-el-salvador-have-been-killed-or-n1126906

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Hundreds deported from U.S. to El Salvador have been killed or abus...
At least 138 people were killed after being deported from 2013 to 2019. Over 70 have been severely abused, Human Rights Watch found.
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[26-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's fallacious.


[26-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Pontology#1010
If he was that big an enemy of the Cartel that they followed him across several countries


[26-Jun-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You cannot show that US border patrol and Mexican internal security are the same.


[26-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are two entirely different entities.


[26-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
The U.S. border is ridiculously porous


[26-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
What is it, a million illegal immigrants a year? Something like that


[26-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, I can say they're comparably ineffective


[26-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even so, it's a lot harder for illegal gangs to operate with impunity here.


[26-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is different in Mexico.


[26-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav entire areas under the control of drug cartels.


[26-Jun-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A cartel in cartel territory is different from a cartel in non-cartel territory.


[26-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes


[26-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Pontology#1010
I wish we just had giant safe enclosures along the border, with a good border wall


[26-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Pontology#1010
In which to process asylum seekers


[26-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea for these decisions is to grant someone a temporary stay here where they can be monitored and protected, rather than leaving them out wherever.


[26-Jun-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can process them in the many buildings we hav domestically.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having them outside in another country is a violation of international law.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the US made cannabis legal at the federal level it would fix Mexico's problem immediately.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it wouldn't.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd still sell meth.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meth for guns.


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Only about 60% of undocumented immigrants attend their court proceedings according to politifact


[26-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
That was the whole reason for the remain-in-mexico


[26-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Pontology#1010
40% just disappear in the country and don't show up


[26-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
People not behaving correctly isn't an argument for violating international law.


[26-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would hav to at least establish some kind of harm that makes following the law immoral.


[26-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking Nah, pretty sure Mexico's drug problem is mostly cocaine


[26-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cocaine is south america.


[26-Jun-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
But goes through mexico per their cartels


[26-Jun-20 03:47 AM] wren#0114
mexico is 🥑


[26-Jun-20 03:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mexico is avocado?


[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the border is easier to control when there is more legal immigration.


[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] wren#0114
yes, in the highly profitable regions that export avocados, the cartels took over


[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives hav reduced avenues of legal immigration with harsher restrictions.


[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] jlun2#8758
yes


[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] jlun2#8758
.p avocado,mexico


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[26-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
The result is immigration still happens, but illegally.


[26-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Israel's border fence cut illegal immigration by 99% according to politifact. Hungary's border fence was similar.


[26-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we were to loosen the criteria, we could reduce the denials to a more managible level.


[26-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Pontology#1010
We just need a good, effective wall like Israel and Hungary have.


[26-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Pontology#1010
however they do it


[26-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They hav a tiny border in a desert that costs half a billion dollars.


[26-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Pontology#1010
>everyone is typing
kek


[26-Jun-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also what if i told you that American businnesses basically depend on illegal immigrant labor to keep their profits going


[26-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Pontology#1010
That's why the old labor-rights left opposed illegal immigration


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Like the Mexican-American labor-rights activist Cesar Chavez


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Even Bernie Sanders until, like, last year


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Can't organize or strike if your boss can just report you to ICE and have you go away


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Pontology#1010
was railing against illegal immigration


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Pontology#1010
for labor-rights reasons


[26-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hungary appears to hav "transit zones" to funnel people, not a complete cutoff.


[26-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hungary overall has a lot of measures besides some fence.


[26-Jun-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to mention that Hungary's basically a far-right dictatorship now


[26-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cutting illegal immigration doesn't suddenly giv workers rights.


[26-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Pontology#1010
They seized upon the coronavirus to enact some authoritarian measures under the guise of coronavirus safety


[26-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Pontology#1010
I definitely don't approve of everything Hungary's doing


[26-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Rainbow Dash#7426
I just bought a bunch of legos from Hungary.....


[26-Jun-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cutting illegal immigration also gives more of a gun for employers to hold against their heads should they try to speak up


[26-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Also, "far-right" is a spook until the media begins describing literally anyone as "far-left".


[26-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
I have yet to see them describe even literal communists as far-left


[26-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
I prefer meaningful descriptors


[26-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
"Far-right" is intentionally a vague boogeyman


[26-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They describe Bernie as far left all the time.


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
same with AOC


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a champagne fukking socialist.


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
only conservative media


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Bloshevik Bernie


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not only conservative media


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN was calling him far left


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
When? In 1988?


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think msnbc did as well


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
MSNBC had a guy ranting and raving about how Bernie would lead to executions in central park


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
well yeah cause Bernie is still just a centrist liberal if you look at politiacl parties in other countries


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this year


[26-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
February.


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Right, an old guy who remembers what socialism is like


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
That's not the actual news though


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm talking about actual news, not opinion commentary


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
CNN and MSNBC aren't the actual news?


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Not their opinion commentary/discussion


[26-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were covering a political debate.


[26-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure I see tons of "far-left" about him when they talk about how he votes on bills.


[26-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Tucker Carlson also isn't news. He doesn't call himself a journalist. He calls himself a political commentator, which he is.


[26-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, in actual non-opinion articles.


[26-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Pontology#1010
If you can show me that from a mainstream news source that's not an opinion piece, I'll eat my hat


[26-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-rise/index.html

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As Sen. Bernie Sanders emerges from his commanding victory in last weekend's Nevada caucuses, the Democratic establishment and the party's sizable moderate wing are increasingly anxious over his steady march to the presidential nomination -- yet they lack any sort of cohesive ...
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[26-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The fear isn't just over how Sanders and his far-left platform would fare against President Donald Trump in the general election, it's also about the effect his nomination could have on down-ballot races, particularly for Democrats running in tough elections in swing districts and states. "


[26-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not an opinion piece, and written by multiple writers.


[26-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Pontology#1010
🎩


[26-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology eat your hat now


[26-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm genuinely shocked


[26-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🗣️ 🎩


[26-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNNGzMK5e4c

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Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe 1980
A short documentary in which directors Werner Herzog and Errol Morris make a bet which results in Herzog being forced to eat his own shoe.
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[26-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
Herzog ate his shoe I expect to see this hat eating


[26-Jun-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well leather is basically beef, so...


[26-Jun-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mmm sweaty foot beef


[26-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
Herzog is quite a character highly recommend watching his films


[26-Jun-20 04:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Jun-20 04:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
39k new cases


[26-Jun-20 04:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/25/883296252/education-dept-rule-limits-how-schools-can-spend-vital-aid-money

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Education Dept. Rule Limits How Schools Can Spend Vital Aid Money
U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos signaled she is standing firm on her intention to reroute millions of dollars in coronavirus aid money to K-12 private school students.
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[26-Jun-20 05:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
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[26-Jun-20 05:07 AM] jlun2#8758
private schools with 99% white students right


[26-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Pontology#1010
don't be silly


[26-Jun-20 05:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Jesus


[26-Jun-20 05:25 AM] jlun2#8758
im not american :ts_cry:


[26-Jun-20 05:26 AM] Pontology#1010
It's literally just allotting the same aid to private schools that public schools get


[26-Jun-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
so my views on them is unfortunately tainted orange


[26-Jun-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
sorry


[26-Jun-20 05:26 AM] jlun2#8758
maybe after 4 years it'll be better


[26-Jun-20 06:03 AM] illumnious#7938
stonks

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[26-Jun-20 06:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Jun-20 06:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
40k+ new cases


[26-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Pontology#1010
we're over the worst of it


[26-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Counting cases basically only measures how much testing is done.


[26-Jun-20 06:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
That's why what matters isn't the case count, but the death count.


[26-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, because @AlchemistLiang we no longer have a shortage of testing kits


[26-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
I tried to get tested two months ago after traveling and having symptoms, and was denied because my symptoms were not serious enough


[26-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
The only thing this indicates is we're testing more


[26-Jun-20 06:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[26-Jun-20 06:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The death count made a big leap


[26-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
What's that from?


[26-Jun-20 06:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

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[26-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't know what the dotted line means. That the data isn't fully in?


[26-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not surprised about a second wave of deaths after all those protests/riots.


[26-Jun-20 06:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Maybe just added the ones who aren't counted before? I don't think so many people can die at the same time before weekends


[26-Jun-20 06:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's like, on every Friday there are more people dead than usual


[26-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
needs some data smoothing


[26-Jun-20 06:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While on Saturdays and Sundays there are always much less


[26-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Repealing anti-discrimination laws is ok if I call it the "affirmative action amendment"


[26-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
?


[26-Jun-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
I don't see how the circled (squared?) box implies anything about the merits of repealing an amendment


[26-Jun-20 07:24 AM] Pontology#1010
The amendment would repeal the prohibition against "discrimination against persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity"


[26-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Pontology#1010
If you think repealing anti-discrimination laws isn't self-evidently bad, then wew


[26-Jun-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The wording on these ballots sometimes confuses people


[26-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not confused, I know what they're doing


[26-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Crow#5457
I thought the square box was implying that the wording was somehow biased


[26-Jun-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/onbS9WG.jpeg

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We know what really matters
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[26-Jun-20 08:22 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[26-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/DhUhs5L.jpg

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[26-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Pontology#1010
>best known for opposing standardized testing


[26-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Pontology#1010
no thanks


[26-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
>standardized testing
>doing anything beside measuring abuility to take standardized tests


[26-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
standardized testing is a sham, allocating resources based on how well kids can memorize and guess their way through multiple choice questions is a shitty way to run an education system


[26-Jun-20 09:34 AM] wren#0114
especially if schools are funded based on standardized scores, then there's no incentive for quality of education


[26-Jun-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
then again, it's not like public school was ever intended to foster intelligence or critical thinking skills, public schooling in the US was intended to prepare kids for factory jobs


[26-Jun-20 09:37 AM] wren#0114
...because they had factories in the 1600s in the north american colonies?


[26-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Considering how different different high schools are, there isn’t a  better way to compare students nationally for admission to selective universities than standardized tests


[26-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree that schools shouldn't be funded based on them, etc.


[26-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Just that abolishing them completely when they're useful for selective universities is a pretty terrible idea.


[26-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't know when you think public schools started but it wasn't the 1600's


[26-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Honahue#0656
you were lucky to get like 6th grade education pre 1800's


[26-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Pontology#1010
They started in America in the 1600's but were certainly not universal

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[26-Jun-20 09:46 AM] wren#0114
ahh, good point


[26-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Synfag#9241

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[26-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jun-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[26-Jun-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[26-Jun-20 02:26 PM] Str1ker878#8413
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[26-Jun-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[26-Jun-20 03:38 PM] illumnious#7938
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[26-Jun-20 03:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Top kek


[26-Jun-20 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is what happens when you don't organize properly


[26-Jun-20 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly anyone who thought this'd be like the Paris Commune needs some history to learn


[26-Jun-20 04:51 PM] illumnious#7938
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[26-Jun-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like KKK flyers to black communities


[26-Jun-20 05:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[26-Jun-20 06:46 PM] Synfag#9241

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[26-Jun-20 07:00 PM] wren#0114
*the sides have been autobalanced*

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[26-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sex will be legendary.


[26-Jun-20 07:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The offspring will conquer the world.


[26-Jun-20 07:02 PM] Honahue#0656
we lost that future when Dolph Lungren and Grace Jones broke up


[26-Jun-20 07:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hannity-second-term-quote-2020-6

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[26-Jun-20 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Sean Hannity just asked Trump in his townhall what his priority items would be for a second term and wtf please listen to this. It goes from saying he never slept over in D.C. before becoming president and ends with calling John Bolton an idiot. https://t.co/53Hsf1ZOjg
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[26-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When will people learn to only ask yes/no questions to him


[26-Jun-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
never, because it's more amusing to get him rambling


[26-Jun-20 07:41 PM] Honahue#0656
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BREAKING:  USA Achieves 100% Onion / Reality Parity
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[26-Jun-20 08:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
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Border clash a 'deliberate provocation' - China
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[26-Jun-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
i have no idea what it is but it looks funny

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[26-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anti gun control idiocy.


[26-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Honahue#0656

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[26-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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If you're POC & elect to partner with a white person, regardless of gender, you are burdened with the fact that your partner is racist by default & you will have to push them out of it—otherwise they will suck you into their racism & use you to shield them from accountability...
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[26-Jun-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This guy really needs to stop talking about this


[26-Jun-20 10:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's already been called out for pseudo-incel stuff


[26-Jun-20 10:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/robert-e-lee-is-my-ancestor-take-down-his-statue-let-his-cause-be-lost/


[26-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, gun control


[26-Jun-20 10:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Alcohol Tobacco Firearms


[26-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Gun control must be a tough question tbh

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[26-Jun-20 10:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The most racist thing you can do is choose to marry someone of a different race. :bigbrain:


[26-Jun-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[26-Jun-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/983778232918036481/

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Both Asian men & women have been hurt. Both Asian men & women have caused hurt, too. But instead of pointing fingers, let us ask how we can seek reconciliation, & dismantle patriarchal misogyny & white supremacy. Together.

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[26-Jun-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is who we're working with


[26-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
bruh


[26-Jun-20 11:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
do they expect someone to read that wall of text on a comic


[26-Jun-20 11:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He says racism is the reason these haven't gotten published


[26-Jun-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe it's because he makes one page a month and everything he draws is stiff as fuck, everything else aside?


[26-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1300862/world-war-3-china-india-war-galwan-valley-camp-border-satellite-images

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World War 3: China's troops massing on India border – new satellite...
CHINA has set up a number of new military structures on the Himalayan border where 20 Indian soldiers died in a brutal clash earlier this month.
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[26-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
apparently china's actually gearing up for war with india


[26-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
even though they claim they're trying to de-escalate


[26-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
> Former Indian diplomat P Stobdan has described the latest development as "worrying".
> 
> He told the BBC: "The Indian government has not released any pictures or made a statement, so it's hard to assess.
> 
> "But the images released by private firms show that the Chinese have built infrastructure and have not retreated."
> 
> It is believed the new military structures were erected after the border clash.
> 
> The images have been released just days after India and China held talks on how to de-escalate tensions on the disputed border.


[26-Jun-20 11:48 PM] wren#0114
popcorn time


[26-Jun-20 11:49 PM] wren#0114
>ww3
I hate modern media


[26-Jun-20 11:50 PM] jlun2#8758
wasnt that in feb


[26-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
don't you get ready for war when you want peace


[26-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[26-Jun-20 11:50 PM] wren#0114
yes actually


[26-Jun-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
guns are for healing ofc


[26-Jun-20 11:52 PM] Yuri#4154
Ah, I see 2020 is picking up the war subplot again


[26-Jun-20 11:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@jlun2 i was referencing this btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum

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Si vis pacem, para bellum (Classical Latin: [siː wiːs ˈpaːkemː ˈpara ˈbellumː]) is a Latin adage translated as "If you want peace, prepare for war".
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[26-Jun-20 11:52 PM] Yuri#4154
Seems like the characters involved are different this time though


[27-Jun-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jun-20 12:14 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Does this mean I can fuck up church stores via doing this


[27-Jun-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[27-Jun-20 12:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
One moment while I go to the latter-day church store and put everything single item in stock only to leave it alone and not buy it


[27-Jun-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may not work in all stores however


[27-Jun-20 12:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
damn, now I understand why people at aliexpress were annoyed when I was keeping my wares in cart for 3+ hours and still choosing more


[27-Jun-20 12:41 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.distractify.com/p/why-is-digital-shopping-cart-abandonment-a-problem

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[27-Jun-20 12:41 AM] jlun2#8758
wow its real


[27-Jun-20 12:41 AM] jlun2#8758
> According to the latest studies, you're not alone. 75 percent of online shoppers leave a website before they check out, thereby causing crippling headaches for smaller online businesses and beyond.


[27-Jun-20 01:02 AM] illumnious#7938
stonks

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[27-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nevada Copper tried its best


[27-Jun-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
okay wat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9BKFlMkQdE

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Tucker Carlson Picks A Fight With Elmo And Loses
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[27-Jun-20 01:09 AM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jun-20 01:23 AM] illumnious#7938
sunshit state


[27-Jun-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-passes-legislation-to-make-washington-dc-a-state-2020-6

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[27-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[27-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504810-barr-creates-task-force-focused-on-anti-government-extremists

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Barr creates task force focused on 'anti-government extremists'
Attorney General William Barr on Friday directed the Justice Department to form a task force dedicated to combating “anti-government extremists,” according to a memo obtained by The Washington Post, raising the stakes in the government’s response to nationwide protests.
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[27-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
> D.C.'s population is larger than those of Wyoming and Vermont, and the new state would be one of seven with populations under one million, she said. The city's $15.5 billion annual budget is larger than those of 12 states, and D.C.'s triple-A bond rating is higher than those of 35 states, Norton said.


[27-Jun-20 02:52 AM] wren#0114
NEW STAR PATTERN?????


[27-Jun-20 02:52 AM] wren#0114
I've been waiting my whole life for a new state to join the Union


[27-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Ohun_Ashe/status/1276652112714387458?s=09

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The mayor of St. Louis, Lyda Krewson @LydaKrewson just went live telling the full names & addresses of people wanting to defund the police & where they want the money to go. Yall she just put a hit out on people. This is a sick and twisted abuse of power and political terrori...
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[27-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus fucking Christ.


[27-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@jlun2 From your article
>Did you know that digital shopping cart abandonment annually costs retailers $4 Trillion due to inaccurate data and negative effects on available inventory?
This really seems like a technological problem that could be fixed by fuzzing numbers and expiring the cart after a period of time (so if they try to buy it an hour and a half later and its not there, well that's on them).

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[27-Jun-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently a few names on that list are minors as well, so that's even more yikes


[27-Jun-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking can they sue


[27-Jun-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can totally sue, the problem now is hitmen going after these people


[27-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[27-Jun-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lawsuit wont cure hitmen


[27-Jun-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given a few of them are teens this may even result in school shootings


[27-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But that's impossible! We solved gun violence by removing guns in social media

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[27-Jun-20 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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They terk er Freedoms!
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[27-Jun-20 03:43 AM] jlun2#8758
will i lose brain cells if i hear it tho


[27-Jun-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly, it;s basically an anti-masker yelling about muh freedums


[27-Jun-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
nty


[27-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I love the US where "freedom" means don't tell me what to do


[27-Jun-20 03:57 AM] wren#0114
🔫 🐍 🚫 👢


[27-Jun-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a gun in my snake but no snake in my boot


[27-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There's a snake in my `ass`

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[27-Jun-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you've got a friend in you


[27-Jun-20 03:59 AM] wren#0114
a gun in my snake

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[27-Jun-20 03:59 AM] wren#0114
AND a snake in my boot

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[27-Jun-20 03:59 AM] wren#0114
:selfboop:


[27-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
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[27-Jun-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2020/06/26/st-louis-mayor-broadcasts-names-addresses-of-citizens-calling-for-police-reform

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St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson took some time out from a public briefing on COVID-19 Friday to read aloud the full names and addresses of...
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[27-Jun-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
posting the news article since the tweet was deleted


[27-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Skydreams#1312
:octavia_yikes:


[27-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least we have the world's best flag

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[27-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We beat this one

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[27-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
@Itsthinking, tweet's deleted


[27-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it's becoming national news and the person doesn't want the attention prob

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[27-Jun-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the sign language translater wasnt censored


[27-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's the main reason


[27-Jun-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking christ, though


[27-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The city she's the mayor of is an American tragedy


[27-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's worse than Detroit, really


[27-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"I just doxxed a bunch of innocent protestors but I don't want any national attention"


[27-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[27-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think there's a wealth divide anywhere in the US- maybe even the world- as bad as this one in St. Louis.


[27-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Geez


[27-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Raptorshy#6268
From what I've heard india is definitely way worse


[27-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but the mansions aren't next to the slums


[27-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
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[27-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Welp


[27-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
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[27-Jun-20 04:38 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[27-Jun-20 04:38 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Another view


[27-Jun-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brazil

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[27-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'mma be real here


[27-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's a cool ass building


[27-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just have a big pool for everyone


[27-Jun-20 04:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Well designed


[27-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wait, they do have that


[27-Jun-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Jun-20 05:27 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1276629230617604096?s=21

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[27-Jun-20 05:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Jun-20 05:30 AM] illumnious#7938
clown show episode 30


[27-Jun-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Jun-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1276564734465249280?s=21 yikes:goodasfuckinghell:

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MANY people in custody, with many others being sought for Vandalization of Federal Property in Lafayette Park. 10 year prison sentences! @FBIWFO
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[27-Jun-20 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
one upside of corona is making face masks normalized


[27-Jun-20 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast trying to


[27-Jun-20 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They'll be normalized at the same time they're politicized


[27-Jun-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wearing a mask once the lockdown is legally lifted will pit people against you the same way MAGA hats do - except that one shields you from disease in general while the other shields you from reality


[27-Jun-20 05:51 AM] illumnious#7938
ladies and gentlemen WHEEEEZ https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1275096018217046016?s=21

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[27-Jun-20 05:52 AM] illumnious#7938
fucking kek


[27-Jun-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I ain't laughing


[27-Jun-20 05:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the kind of thing that would've been suicide for a candidate to post in 2016, and the idea that an *incumbent president* would post it is beyond belief


[27-Jun-20 05:53 AM] wren#0114
🔥 🇺🇸 🔥 :equality: :equality: 🧊 🍑


[27-Jun-20 05:53 AM] illumnious#7938
but disgrace also who gives a fuck trump


[27-Jun-20 05:54 AM] wren#0114
thankfully that wouldn't pass congress, and especially not supreme court


[27-Jun-20 05:54 AM] illumnious#7938
go to jail for one year...okay what about you?


[27-Jun-20 05:56 AM] illumnious#7938
one more and this is a brutal nightmare https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1276343503782625300?s=21

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[27-Jun-20 06:05 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/my-little-pony-is-popular-with-nazis-who-call-themselves-bronies/>
bleh its spreading :ts_cry:


[27-Jun-20 06:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
wtf is this shit


[27-Jun-20 06:08 AM] jlun2#8758
someone contacting tons of journalists because they have grudge on Derpi i guess :shrugpony:


[27-Jun-20 06:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Also, have you seen the news that Mike Pence said more youths infected corona is "very encouraging news"?


[27-Jun-20 06:11 AM] jlun2#8758
nope


[27-Jun-20 06:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-puts-positive-spin-on-surging-coronavirus-cases-in-south-west/2020/06/26/70a1dfa2-b7c7-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html


[27-Jun-20 06:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Jun-20 06:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't find the original video except a Chinese subtitle one


[27-Jun-20 06:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If I've heard it correctly, what he said is 
"It's roughly a half of the new cases are American under the age thirty-five. Which, uh, which is, at a certain level very encouraging news, as the experts tell us."


[27-Jun-20 06:26 AM] wren#0114
tbf it is more encouraging than if all the new cases were elderly ppl


[27-Jun-20 06:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But more youths infected doesn't means less olds infected


[27-Jun-20 06:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Especially when the total number of newly infected is doubled


[27-Jun-20 06:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
the only way it's "encouraging" is like cause more young people won't die/be asymtomatic there won't be any lost labor


[27-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
cept you know if they vist family


[27-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
or die cause they poor


[27-Jun-20 07:06 AM] RYDE#8862
Destroy 2020


[27-Jun-20 07:07 AM] RYDE#8862
I had enough.


[27-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Pontology#1010
This is from DiAngelo's book _White Fragility_, which has recently been pushed by the far-left.

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[27-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Pontology#1010
White people need to stop seeing ourselves as individuals and begin adopting a racial white consciousness.


[27-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Meeting in "white affinity groups" "specifically as white people" (meaning white-only) to discuss our collective racial experience.


[27-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Pontology#1010
This will definitely end well.


[27-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Pontology#1010
:Aryanne:


[27-Jun-20 08:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Far-left is doing what the far-right could only dream of: pushing collective white racial consciousness into the mainstream.


[27-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What makes this or who is pushing it "far-left"?


[27-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf even is the "far left"


[27-Jun-20 08:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can say communist


[27-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
"far-left" in the US is center-right in the rest of the world


[27-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
people unironically say that joe biden is the same as bernie is the same as ocasio-cortez in the US


[27-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
in germany, biden would be further to the right than merkel, and merkel is a member of the center-right party of germany


[27-Jun-20 08:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly Crow, Angela Merkel is secretly a communist and a soviet agent working for Soros because she was born in east Germany


[27-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not familiar enough with merkel to say how her political leaning matches up with bernie, but bernie's likely less to the left of merkel than biden is to the right of merkel


[27-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's right wing liberal by EU standards, if you exclude Hungary and Poland


[27-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The whole theme of her party is "Christianity"


[27-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
yeah I know, I went over germany's political parties a few years ago


[27-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though of course, if any christian actually read the bible they'd be aghast about Jesus' teachings


[27-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
her's like the "christian center-right party"


[27-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany

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This is a list of political parties in Germany.
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[27-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If Jesus walked the earth today, US conservatives would call him an SJW and get added to a terrorist watchlist for being an anticapitalist


[27-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit, the alternative for germany party has 11 members in the EU parliament


[27-Jun-20 08:35 AM] byte[]#2610
just call it AfD


[27-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Crow#5457
I like how the democratic socialist party in germany is just called "The Left"


[27-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Left_(Germany)

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The Left (German: Die Linke, stylised as DIE LiNKE.), also commonly referred to as the Left Party (German: die Linkspartei, pronounced [diː ˈlɪŋkspaʁˌtaɪ̯] (listen)), is a democratic socialist political party in Germany. The party was founded in 2007 as the result of the merge...
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[27-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Die Link

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[27-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ganon 2020

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[27-Jun-20 08:36 AM] byte[]#2610
@Crow did you read this when I linked it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_studies_affair

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[27-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Crow#5457
no, I missed it somehow


[27-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
I remember hearing about it though


[27-Jun-20 08:38 AM] byte[]#2610
tl;dr: some academics who are concerned about the reputability of gender studies research decide to shitpost in journals


[27-Jun-20 08:38 AM] byte[]#2610
and get accepted to a number of them


[27-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[27-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
> Sokal's hoax influenced Boghossian and Lindsay, who in 2017 published a hoax article stating that penises should be viewed not as male but as social constructs in the journal Cogent Social Sciences.


[27-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
penises are gay

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[27-Jun-20 08:39 AM] Crow#5457
the end


[27-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
>  These published articles included arguments that dogs engage in rape culture and that men could reduce their transphobia by anally penetrating themselves with sex toys, and a rewrite of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf in feminist language.


[27-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
LMAO


[27-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Crow#5457
sieg heil shitlord


[27-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Crow#5457
> Critics also asserted that the work did not represent a scientific investigation given that the project did not include a control group


[27-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that is a valid criticism


[27-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
see how many real studies are accepted/rejected/pending versus the fake ones


[27-Jun-20 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[27-Jun-20 08:44 AM] byte[]#2610
that's why I called it a shitpost


[27-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
technically, experiments are just physical shitposts that're recorded

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[27-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
"An Ethnography of Breastaurant Masculinity: Themes of Objectification, Sexual Conquest, Male Control, and Masculine Toughness in a Sexually Objectifying Restaurant"


[27-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
BREASTAURANT


[27-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
huh, that's the official term for restaurants like hooters


[27-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
oh god, googling breastaurant has donald trump as the second image at the top https://i.imgur.com/67xprzV.jpg

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[27-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Crow#5457

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[27-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.psypost.org/2017/07/sexually-objectifying-restaurants-linked-anxiety-disordered-eating-waitresses-49257


[27-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Crow#5457
turns out being put on display is bad for your psychological health


[27-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Far-left means this weird kooky anti-racism stuff


[27-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Pontology#1010
That literally wants white people to meet in all-white meetings


[27-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Pontology#1010
It's the kooky anti-racism ideology that advocates racial segregation


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not economically far-left, but far-left in a different way.


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Crow#5457
now this I gotta see


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not a conventional far-left definition


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
you might want to make it clearer who you're talking about next time


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] Pontology#1010
@Crow above https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/726318855508721685


[27-Jun-20 08:56 AM] byte[]#2610
because the far left I know? they're /leftypol/


[27-Jun-20 08:57 AM] byte[]#2610
actual anarchists and communists who don't give a shit about idpol


[27-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing in that post which segregates whites, from what it sounds like they're talking about how many whites don't realize how much less judging they have to deal with from other people


[27-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Pontology#1010
White affinity groups


[27-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Meeting "specifically as white people"


[27-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Pontology#1010
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1276540377315651585

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As a Jewish person I'm concerned that wildly popular people like Robin DiAngelo are ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING whites to view themselves as a unified collective without a moment's thought as to how reviving this scientifically asinine and historically disastrous idea could backfire...
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[27-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Pontology#1010
It's beautiful.


[27-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Forget hooters


[27-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Gimme peckers


[27-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Or as it as it’s commonly called


[27-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Femboy hooters


[27-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://robindiangelo.com/accountability-statement/

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[27-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Crow#5457
tbh this sounds more analogous to alcoholics anonymous than segregation


[27-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Pontology#1010
White people anonymous


[27-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Like /pol/


[27-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"My name is Thad, and I am a mayonnaise-aholic"


[27-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[27-Jun-20 10:58 AM] Pontology#1010
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The California legislature has now voted to strike these words from our state
constitution:

“The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.”

I’m speechles...
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[27-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jun-20 01:23 PM] Synfag#9241
The Right: *Finally! Facebook is caught admitting censorship*
The Left: *Yeah but those Russians though...*


[27-Jun-20 01:23 PM] Synfag#9241
every single time.


[27-Jun-20 01:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-orders-immigrant-children-detained-with-families-to-be-freed-2020-6

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[27-Jun-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1276656333098450947 racism is solved!

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[27-Jun-20 01:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf happened with trump/ivanka today?

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[27-Jun-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Bye Ivanka: A Public Disservice Announcement
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[27-Jun-20 01:51 PM] Synfag#9241

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[27-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/my-little-pony-is-popular-with-nazis-who-call-themselves-bronies/
bleh its spreading ```


[27-Jun-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yikes.


[27-Jun-20 02:02 PM] Synfag#9241
every time.


[27-Jun-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I thought it was Nebbie that finally took over the agenda for Derpi with the new rule amendments, but with this stuff it was your only option.


[27-Jun-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-taliban-money-kill-us-troops-afghanistan-2020-6 meanwhile this is why the traitor trump hashtag is trending

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[27-Jun-20 02:03 PM] Synfag#9241
so what did Trump do this time?
and what did Russia get blamed for this time?


[27-Jun-20 02:03 PM] Synfag#9241
...


[27-Jun-20 02:04 PM] Synfag#9241
it's been those two topics every single day


[27-Jun-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump let russia hire the taliban to kill american soldiers and then invited him to the G7


[27-Jun-20 02:04 PM] Synfag#9241
so?


[27-Jun-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump let russia kill american soldiers and then greeted them with a hug


[27-Jun-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the president of america, he betrayed his country to let russia kill our soldiers


[27-Jun-20 02:07 PM] Synfag#9241
at this rate
the only thing tht will satisfy you is if Trump brings out his katana and stab Putin the moment they met at that event


[27-Jun-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we shoudl throw a party for putin and trump as they kill american soldiers?


[27-Jun-20 02:07 PM] Synfag#9241
you know this is a clash of leaders that don't want yet another massive war


[27-Jun-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There's a difference between avoiding war and not standing up for the soldiers of your own damned country


[27-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Synfag#9241
if that's the case, let's go all Hillary Clinton and go to war with Russia


[27-Jun-20 02:10 PM] Synfag#9241
it's either russia or bust


[27-Jun-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
standing up to russia doesnt mean starting a war either


[27-Jun-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You can stand up to world leaders diplomatically


[27-Jun-20 02:10 PM] Synfag#9241
diplomacy is already out of the question
what more could you want?


[27-Jun-20 02:11 PM] Synfag#9241
those two presidents should just slap each other silly


[27-Jun-20 02:11 PM] Synfag#9241
that would have been a greater show


[27-Jun-20 02:12 PM] Synfag#9241
so far all they've been doing is shake hands while thinking of ways to kill each other


[27-Jun-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
```and what did Russia get blamed for this time?```
Back in 2015 or so I've read a funny (at the time) line in one of our domestic political news sites. Paraphrased, it went like, "Putin has given the US and NATO an enourmous gift by invading Ukraine and will be remembered fondly and get horseback statues in bronze on secluded government property. You can only stretch military budgets fighting hobos with AKs for so long; but now he finally, once again gave them someone *significant* to blame for everything."


[27-Jun-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I thought it was hillarious yet true at the time, and I'm legitimately glad I wasn't disappointed.


[27-Jun-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump has never wanted to kill putin, he just wanted to lift all the treaties preventing him from playing with nukes


[27-Jun-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Putin may want to kill Trump though, but for now Trump is a useful idiot for putin


[27-Jun-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, this 'Putin - the great mastermind' thing


[27-Jun-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less a mastermind thing and mroe of a mafia favors kind of thing


[27-Jun-20 02:19 PM] Synfag#9241
> Trump has never wanted to kill putin
you don't know that
> Putin may want to kill Trump though
same with this

we'll never really know what they're thinking


[27-Jun-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, that;s why i included "may" in that statement


[27-Jun-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump idolizes dictators because they are strong, he wants to be putin, not kill him


[27-Jun-20 02:20 PM] Synfag#9241
> Trump is a useful idiot for putin

it's always have been "X is a useful idiot for putin" every time it's a Republican


[27-Jun-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
there's _still_ a russian media-space ironic meme going around. That every failure or setback (or success, or an unrelated event, or anything at all really, but primarily the bad stuff) happening is a part of Putin's grand master strategy, one of the thousand multi-step plans. "Многоходовочка" would be the word to start looking.


[27-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it never really gets old to see US willingly broadcasting and supporting the meme.


[27-Jun-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
only unironically, unlike the original.


[27-Jun-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putin lends Trump money for his failing businesses after no bank will touch him -> asks for favors in return. Putin gives Trump a few bot farms to work with for his election -> asks for favors. It's not that hard a thing to do. It doesn;t mean putin is a great mastermind or a puppeteer, it;s simply a "i scratch your back, you lift russian sanctions" kind of deal


[27-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Synfag#9241
the more likely thing I see is the bots are more for pissing off Democrats


[27-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
Europe was the primary benefactor of lifting sanctions btw.


[27-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Synfag#9241
instead of for helping Trump


[27-Jun-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
the trade ties go on for many decades back way before USSR final collapse, plus there's still the unresolved question of russian natural gas.


[27-Jun-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
unless you expect Trump to be so pro-Europe he'd support them this way, well...


[27-Jun-20 02:26 PM] Synfag#9241
for all we know
this whole time
the intention is to lessen the likelihood of having the top be the party that has a ridiculous hatred of Russia
and Trump has no idea


[27-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh I dunno if it does anything in that regard.


[27-Jun-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
all sides benefit from blaming Russia for everything.


[27-Jun-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it's definitely not an anti-democrat thing. Dems simply have an easier time doing it overtly.


[27-Jun-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
that's the beauty of it. It's not a zero-sum.


[27-Jun-20 02:31 PM] Synfag#9241
it's definitely an anti-*"the people that wants Russia be a smoldering crater"*


[27-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
US blames Russia for everything, US government gets lease to stretch those defensive budgets further, maybe get another major success like Patriot's act if something somewhere would just happen to mysteriously blow up again.


[27-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
and Russian people see and hear about that and feel pride and confidence in their leader.


[27-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
the nation's getting off it's knees (another ru media-space thing).


[27-Jun-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it's simply means of population management.


[27-Jun-20 02:37 PM] Synfag#9241
I'm more worried of China


[27-Jun-20 02:37 PM] Synfag#9241
India s practically becoming the frontline defender of the rest of the free world


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
with the border issues there


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
tfw India the defender of free world. Feelsbadman.


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. While US and Russia busy themselves with population management, China expands.


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
China is a hundread times worse that Russia


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
literally


[27-Jun-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
as in by numbers


[27-Jun-20 02:39 PM] Synfag#9241
three digit multiples


[27-Jun-20 02:41 PM] Synfag#9241
and it all started when *Shenzhou 5* happened


[27-Jun-20 02:42 PM] Synfag#9241
it's like that country sparked a cold war all over again


[27-Jun-20 02:43 PM] Synfag#9241
the world powers started sweating


[27-Jun-20 02:43 PM] Synfag#9241
a third nation launching people into space
and it's China


[27-Jun-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
nah. That's w/e, a status thing maybe.


[27-Jun-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
China expands economically, that's their great advantage. Russia simply cannot, and US... I honestly don't know, you guys would know more about this than I do. Well, economic expansion can't really be brute-forced away like military one might be.


[27-Jun-20 02:45 PM] Synfag#9241
so many thing happened that 2003


[27-Jun-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
so there's no solution to that. The times of 'made in Germany' have come and gone, that angle's dead.


[27-Jun-20 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/military-leaders-standing-up-to-trump-worrying-sign-for-democracy-2020-6

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[27-Jun-20 04:35 PM] illumnious#7938
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@realDonaldTrump Obamacare being destroyed by a myopic trump all because it says Obamacare because as we all know @BarackObama lives rent free in trumps head.

Trumpcare is like like trump university but you die!
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[27-Jun-20 04:48 PM] ononim#8141
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[27-Jun-20 04:48 PM] ononim#8141
bruh


[27-Jun-20 04:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
neither of these people should be in this chat imo


[27-Jun-20 04:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Mumsnet is 4chan for karens


[27-Jun-20 05:03 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/06/mentally-ill-man-spent-nearly-5-months-in-jail-before-body-cam-video-revealed-garfield-heights-officers-beat-tased-and-mocked-him.html

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[27-Jun-20 05:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[27-Jun-20 05:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
This is my most successful buying of fund


[27-Jun-20 05:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I'll earn like 20% of the principal in to the end of next month


[27-Jun-20 05:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:nut:


[27-Jun-20 05:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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How white VA celebs see themselves after announcing they won't voice nonwhite characters anymore
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[27-Jun-20 05:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm almost certain this isn't what's going on behind the scenes


[27-Jun-20 05:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u should double check


[27-Jun-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, this doesnt seem like a choice the VAs made


[27-Jun-20 05:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
at least, not with actors for whom VA is their day job


[27-Jun-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This seems more like executive pandering


[27-Jun-20 05:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I could see celeb screen actors saying this, I could see the staff on the Simpsons putting out a statement that they won't do this anymore...but let's be honest, if we cast *voice* roles based on what the actor looked like, you wouldn't get James Earl Jones voicing Darth Vader


[27-Jun-20 05:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
now, I could see a point in protesting a studio that refused to hire PoC VAs and only hired white VAs, that'd be a real issue


[27-Jun-20 05:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but that's not what we're talking about here, is it


[27-Jun-20 05:33 PM] jlun2#8758
so replace the word celeb with executives in image


[27-Jun-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and replace the crowd of adoring people with a pile of cash


[27-Jun-20 05:34 PM] jlun2#8758
> waiting for all the anime dubs realize that 90% of anime characters are Asian.
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[27-Jun-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast family guy now has their excuse to kill off cleveland they've been wanting for a decade now


[27-Jun-20 05:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and probably consuela


[27-Jun-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[27-Jun-20 05:46 PM] ononim#8141
oh that thing


[27-Jun-20 05:46 PM] ononim#8141
a stupid thing


[27-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
obviously, companies will hire the japanese VAs to voice the same character, only in english!


[27-Jun-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, nebbie isn't behind the recent rule change, but okay


[27-Jun-20 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow I know. Like I said, I didn't realise something went down this badly.


[27-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
you did the only thing you could. No complaints.


[27-Jun-20 06:41 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
https://news.yahoo.com/family-guy-actor-mike-henry-224126985.html

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[27-Jun-20 06:42 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
What the fuck is this shit? Ya know, I expect this kind of cowardice from The Simpsons, but not from Family Guy. Hasn't Family Guy built its brand its entire life around being anti-PC and not giving a fuck if it offended anyone and not being told what to do, constantly saying "we make fun of everyone; all jokes are on the table"? This seems...disturbing and out of character for a show like that. Don't they make fun of black people? These 2 things are incongruent. Does this mean they're gonna stop the offensive jokes too and that it won't be Family Guy anymore? Because if they'll bow to pressure on this, why not that because what's the difference when bigoted jokes are more offensive than casting choice? Where does it end? Yeah,'cause this'll end racism and isn't trivial at all. This is another reason why South Park is better. Matt&Trey would never do something like this. I dislike either show, but I respect South Park more. South Park aren't cowards and will stand their ground. What fucking pussies Family Guy are.


[27-Jun-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They're both owned by fox who is now owned by disney


[27-Jun-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
PR matters more to them than show quality


[27-Jun-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also family guy has been tyring to get rid of cleveland for years now, so i'm not really surprised


[27-Jun-20 06:45 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
How have they? They brought him back after he left to get his own show. Also, Cleveland isn't being written out, just recast.


[27-Jun-20 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This stunt is easier and cheaper to make than putting resources into actual charity


[27-Jun-20 06:47 PM] Synfag#9241
they'll still do offensive jokes
but it'll be limited to targetting white people this time instead


[27-Jun-20 06:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they brought him back for ratings, but he doesn't really get much in terms of writing anymore, they made a few "gaze upon his return and rejoice" episodes and thne made him what can only be described as a glorified backgorund character


[27-Jun-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless he got more episodes in the newer season which i havent watched since i;m not gonna go out of my way to hunt down, then i stand corrected


[27-Jun-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:shrugpony:


[27-Jun-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either way the only shows on fox worth watching anymore are bob's burgers and american dad


[27-Jun-20 06:54 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
The Simpsons had also gotten its start on not caring about boundaries and not bowing to public pressure, and that show was of a much higher pedigree than Family Guy ever was. Sad.


[27-Jun-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less that it doesn;t care about boundaries and mroe that family guy ran out of ideas so long ago that they had to keep gettign edgier and edgier to keep up


[27-Jun-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at one point they stopped caring about the series entirely and basically made it a skit show of cutaways every episode for 4 seasons until ratings started nosediving and they had to stop that shit


[27-Jun-20 07:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Jun-20 07:28 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Jun-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/504846-orange-county-democrats-call-for-john-wayne-airport-to-be-renamed

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Orange County Democrats call for John Wayne Airport to be renamed
Democratic officials in Orange County, Calif., are calling for John Wayne Airport to be renamed amid resurfacing racial comments the late Western movie star made decades ago.
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[27-Jun-20 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I believe in white supremacy until the Blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people."- John Wayne, 1971


[27-Jun-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
it's orange county, so unlikely they'll get anything


[27-Jun-20 07:49 PM] jlun2#8758
I want to be feminized :sombralick:

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[27-Jun-20 07:52 PM] jlun2#8758
I still identify as male tho 😛

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[27-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
male until someone says otherwise :D


[27-Jun-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm waiting

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[27-Jun-20 09:24 PM] illumnious#7938
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[27-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Anon is smart.

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[27-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Liberal democracies naturally decline into fascism if communist revolution doesn't stop them. Not at all unreasonable to call people nazis when they're useful idiots who play nice with nazis ("we can fix genocidal maniacs with kindness and understanding!!!"). They are enablers at best and they must be corrected or stamped out."


[27-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Liberals deal with Nazis [by saying] "If we censor their propaganda, (((aren't we just as bad?)))" No, you spineless fuck. These rats must be chased out of every hole or they will grow, spread, and fester just like they do here. Fascism's end goal is mass violence and genocide. It happens every single time. The profession of fascism is in itself violent, so censoring/beating/killing professed fascists is always self defense."


[27-Jun-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
so the goal is to... demostrate his own point


[27-Jun-20 09:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People who are against free speech will use free speech in an attempt to take down free speech.


[27-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Authoritarians will use any means necessary to gain power, even ways that do not align with their ideology.


[27-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
for the greater good, of course. Always.


[27-Jun-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Pontology#1010
>liberal democracies naturally decline into fascism unless a communist revolution stops it
>it happens every single time


[27-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Pontology#1010
Delusional


[27-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Pontology#1010
This is some grade-A communist propaganda against liberal democracies


[27-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not even communist.


[27-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
he wants fascism to counter fascism.


[27-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
perfect circular logic


[27-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Pontology#1010
How is he advocating fascism at all?


[27-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Pontology#1010
He advocates "censoring/beating/killing" fascists


[27-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Pontology#1010
He's clearly against both fascism and liberal democracy, saying that the only good outcome for liberal democracies is a communist revolutions since he thinks they go fash otherwise


[27-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Silence and eliminate the undesirables, establish his own authoritarian ideology... :D


[27-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, communism.


[27-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Pontology#1010
Dictatorship of the proletariat.


[27-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Pontology#1010
Voice of the people, whether they like it or not.


[27-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
theoretically, anyway.


[27-Jun-20 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
no, this isn't it at all.


[27-Jun-20 11:09 PM] Pontology#1010
All I'm saying is, he's clearly a communist, definitely not a fascist. He advocates killing fascists, and opposes liberal democracy unless they have communist revolutions.


[27-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Pontology#1010
Probably an antifa-type.


[27-Jun-20 11:10 PM] Opponent#3498
I know what you're saying. I can't 100% prove you're wrong just based on that.


[27-Jun-20 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
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[27-Jun-20 11:23 PM] ononim#8141
oopsie woopsie


[27-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
oh boy.


[27-Jun-20 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, _again_?


[27-Jun-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/radiation-scandinavia-nuclear-power-plant-russia-a9589301.html

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Radiation level increase in northern Europe may 'indicate damage' t...
Russian authorities deny any leakage or fault with power plants in St Petersburg and Murmansk
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[27-Jun-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
nah it's probably the same


[27-Jun-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[28-Jun-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Supreme Kourvanaugh


[28-Jun-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or wait, hair that dark, is it someone else?


[28-Jun-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look closer


[28-Jun-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
supreme cruz


[28-Jun-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the zodiac court


[28-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Pontology#1010
That supreme court would be too far left.


[28-Jun-20 12:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Needs to be all Clarence Thomas.


[28-Jun-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
is your primary form of political discourse calling arbitrary things leftist


[28-Jun-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
I have to admit it's very tiring


[28-Jun-20 12:50 AM] Pontology#1010
I was being facetious


[28-Jun-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
be less facetious


[28-Jun-20 12:50 AM] wren#0114
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[28-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Pontology#1010
The joke was the fact that calling Ted Cruz "too far left" is humorous


[28-Jun-20 12:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Since he's a pretty hardline conservative


[28-Jun-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
and I might have laughed if most of your posts here were not discussing left ideology by name. it makes you seem sincere rather than ironic


[28-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>A whole Court of Clarence Thomas


[28-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A whole Court that says nothing


[28-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
says nothing until holding virtual hearings


[28-Jun-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
I'll be more specific in the future about what specific ideologies I am referring to, rather than using terms like "far right" or "far left"


[28-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's probably just shy


[28-Jun-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And rationalized it with "oh the coaches shouldn't talk"


[28-Jun-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
thanks


[28-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Clarence Thomas is based. This is a piece by a progressive-activist outlet, so is obviously anti-Thomas, but they recognize how important and influential he is
https://archive.thinkprogress.org/clarence-thomas-most-important-legal-thinker-in-america-c12af3d08c98/

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Clarence Thomas is the most important legal thinker in America
The oft-misunderstood Justice has single-handedly reshaped the way conservatives think about the law. God help us.
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[28-Jun-20 01:00 AM] Pontology#1010
If you read it, keep in mind it's blatantly partisan with a progressive agenda, which is fine.


[28-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas doesn't believe in Miranda rights


[28-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He thinks a state could establish a religion


[28-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Pontology#1010
He is a strict constitutionalist.


[28-Jun-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When it fits him.


[28-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Pontology#1010
To be clear, it's not that he doesn't believe in Miranda rights


[28-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Pontology#1010
It's that he doesn't believe the Constitution requires that Miranda rights be read to criminal suspects.


[28-Jun-20 01:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Which seems pretty reasonable.


[28-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Constitution is living.


[28-Jun-20 01:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Only via amendments, not via re-interpretation.


[28-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the court were just Thomas then nothing would ever happen


[28-Jun-20 01:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They only say something when pressured to to the extreme


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's always the most cookie-cutter conservative thing in the book


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Constitution doesn't say that the Court has any power to review laws


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
He just doesn't speak, but he writes persuasively and eloquently at length.


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, the justices would still get paid if they never granted any case certiorati, wouldn't they?


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
As that progressive outlet details, he's one of the most important legal thinkers in America.


[28-Jun-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
Easiest scotus job ever


[28-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Could be worse, could be McReynolds


[28-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who hated being on the bench with a bunch of Jewish justices


[28-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And hated everyone, really


[28-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking Yes it does, in Article III section 2:
> "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States"


[28-Jun-20 01:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can be a really important thinker and be absolutely terrible at it by virtue of being one of the few final deciders


[28-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't establish judicial review


[28-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you make a rabid poodle a supreme court justice they'd also be one of the most important legal thinkers


[28-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Marbury did that


[28-Jun-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We also had an AG who briefly said Marbury was wrong.


[28-Jun-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-rep-gohmert-doesnt-wear-mask-covid-19-2020-6

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Texas Republican lawmaker says he won't wear a mask on the House fl...
Rep. Louie Gohmert is among a group of Republican lawmakers including the president and vice president who have been photographed without a face mask.
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[28-Jun-20 01:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gohmert is like a character from The Onion


[28-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't imagine what it must be like writing for The Onion these days


[28-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably terrifying


[28-Jun-20 01:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So if he does wear a mask, he'll only do it the one time he shouldn't, because he should be home or in the hospital instead?


[28-Jun-20 01:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't matter how absurd and extreme you take things, reality will outdo them


[28-Jun-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly The Onion should just switch to feels-good and hopeful articles


[28-Jun-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All cancer cured by a 12yo, stable and efficient fusion reaction invented, Mars colonization deemed possible by 2040...


[28-Jun-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I miss the murder clowns. Life made more sense when they were the worst thing we had to worry about


[28-Jun-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe they'll make a resurgence


[28-Jun-20 01:26 AM] Pontology#1010
The Onion has lost its touch, Babylon Bee has gained momentum.
https://babylonbee.com/news/seattle-protesters-abolish-police-replace-with-squads-of-armed-officers-tasked-with-enforcing-set-of-agreed-upon-rules

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SEATTLE, WA—Seattle protesters have successfully abolished the police in their "autonomous zone." In their place, the leaders of the group have installed squads of armed officers who are tasked with enforcing a set of agreed-upon rules."We have achieved a police-free utopia," ...
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[28-Jun-20 01:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, we elected them


[28-Jun-20 01:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Then again, many of their satire articles are basically just reporting real news with a humorous spin.


[28-Jun-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-claims-christian-statues-are-threatened-by-monument-mob-2020-6

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Donald Trump claims 'Christian figures are now in the crosshairs' a...
Trump has signed an executive order demanding long prison sentences for anyone who damages public monuments.
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[28-Jun-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, not the 20,000 jesus statues!


[28-Jun-20 01:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Good. They've torn down statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson.


[28-Jun-20 01:29 AM] Pontology#1010
It's frenzied destructive mobs. The overwhelming majority of people don't want this.


[28-Jun-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the washington and jefferson statues arent the ones he's trying to protect


[28-Jun-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s trying to protect the pike statues and the robert E lee statues


[28-Jun-20 01:31 AM] Pontology#1010
I have no doubt he wants to protect George Washington more than he wants to protect Robert E Lee


[28-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Pontology#1010
But regardless, preventing mobs from tearing down statues of the Founders is a good thing.


[28-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I see Trump's turned his twitter into a hitlist on americans over... some statues


[28-Jun-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really fucking weird how many heinous crimes have happened in the last few years he clearly thought were less important


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Heinous crimes happen literally every day


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why hasn't he posted up pictures of child kidnappers or suspected murderers caught on CCTV?


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently statues are more important than american soldiers


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Huh?


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Confederate generals were sort of in the habit of killing US soldiers


[28-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
In what way do you think he doesn't care about American soldiers?


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he turned a blind eye to russia sniping them with a bounty


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Pontology#1010
No he didn't


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Pontology#1010
The NYT reported the Trump admin has been deliberating how to deal with it


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after being called out


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Best part of Trump


[28-Jun-20 01:34 AM] Pontology#1010
No, it said it has been deliberating for months


[28-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Ever since they were briefed on it


[28-Jun-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Russia bad, China bad, North Korea bad
BUT
Putin good, Xi good, Kim good


[28-Jun-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Deliberating is one thing, that coudl mean thye sat ont heir hands and weighed minor options while trump ignored all of them


[28-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You will never hear Trump use the "china virus" line, or whine about China's handling of the virus, and mention Xi by name


[28-Jun-20 01:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Could mean, ok. Or it could mean the military has been taking precautionary measures while the administration is deliberating on how to deal with it.


[28-Jun-20 01:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Declare war on Russia? Probably not. Sanctions? Maybe.


[28-Jun-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
telling putin off on live tv while passing sanctions?


[28-Jun-20 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/06/trump-wrongly-diverted-billions-build-wall-appeals-court-200626190949915.html


[28-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Mexico will pay for the wall" and other jokes you tell yourself


[28-Jun-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The problem is he was voted on that lie


[28-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And people will vote for him again based on some new lie and forget all the other ones


[28-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Nah, almost nobody thought he would be able to make mexico pay for it


[28-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Pontology#1010
They voted for him for other reasons. 
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/donald-trump-promises-kept/index.html

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A politician who actually does what he told voters he would do seems almost unfathomable in Washington, a town of broken promises. For Donald Trump, being a president who delivers is especially crucial, since it's one of the golden keys to his so far unbreakable bond with supp...
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[28-Jun-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, so that's why he and his cronies kept repeating it for years


[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also the meme of how sanction on China are good for US farmers


[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean, Trump has partially delivered on even the "Mexico will pay for it"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/world/americas/mexico-guatemala-border.html

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Mexico’s Crackdown at Its Southern Border, Prompted by Trump, Scare...
Increased enforcement along the border with Guatemala, which began in recent days, has made crossing into Mexico harder. This has dissuaded migrants from traveling north.
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[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When that's lead to farmers unable to sell to China and manufacturers unable to sell tractors etc. to China


[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He promised tariffs, i'll give him that regardless of economical damage


[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To be fair, Trump *did* tick like half the boxes on the heritage foundation's list of things a ~~fascist, anti-environmentalist dictator~~ president shoud do in his first year in office


[28-Jun-20 01:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Trump pressured Mexico into cracking down on its own border.


[28-Jun-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
however these things weren't his campaign promises


[28-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology except for the debt lie


[28-Jun-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and shouldn't have been accomplished to begin with, imo


[28-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/04/25/trump-takes-back-claim-he-could-eliminate-national-debt-n2152708

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Donald Trump has made a lot of bold claims on the campaign trail, including that hes going to erase the nations $19 trillion in debt in eight years by cutting better trade deals. The claim, made during an interview with the Washington Post in March, was derided as nonsensical,...
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[28-Jun-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And all the while, these same farmers that decry socialism and leftists and damn lazy city slickers


[28-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have been getting government handouts


[28-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"I will elmate a precntage of the us debt in 8 years"


[28-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/


[28-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/r3hTwsvJV_A

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[28-Jun-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also promised to use the nukes during his campaign


[28-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also that the innocent families of america's enemies should be executed


[28-Jun-20 01:45 AM] Pontology#1010
What? Source.


[28-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Pontology#1010
He promised to "use nukes"? Like just nuke random cities? What does that even mean?


[28-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Pontology#1010
He was for expanding the U.S.'s nuclear capability.


[28-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I vaguely remember some random speech about him not holding back


[28-Jun-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/WSOZ6b8ggAw

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[28-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/23/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-arms-race

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[28-Jun-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using nukes against america's enemies


[28-Jun-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Mexico will pay for the wall"- anti sjw npc


[28-Jun-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://time.com/4437089/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-nukes/ and then continuing to bring it up multiple times in briefings

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[28-Jun-20 01:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Sounds reasonable tbh


[28-Jun-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using nukes is an end of the world scenario


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it really isn't


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
you get too much of your information about nuclear weapons from hollywood


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
however, it is _fucking retarded_


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fair enough


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] Pontology#1010
He said it should be an absolute last step but “We have nuclear arsenals which are in very terrible shape”


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah and we should dismantle them


[28-Jun-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he then pondered nuking a hurricane


[28-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Pontology#1010
No. North Korea and Iran sure as hell aren't dismantling theirs.


[28-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Pontology#1010
They're expanding their nuclear capabilities.


[28-Jun-20 01:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so which one are you from


[28-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Want to know why iran is expanding?


[28-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse they yeeted out all the work Obama did to get them to not expand the program


[28-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Because Obama bad trump gud


[28-Jun-20 01:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and by "they," caw9 means Trump, unilaterally and singularly, in this particular instance

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[28-Jun-20 01:53 AM] jlun2#8758
have they resumed nuclear testing yet? vaguely remembered reading it


[28-Jun-20 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they were doing that within, like 24 hours


[28-Jun-20 01:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh wait, that was NK


[28-Jun-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-calls-nuclear-deal-bashing-misinformation/story?id=68148374 even better he killed obama's nuclear deal with iran to try and force his own name brand nuclear deal

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President Donald Trump called for a new nuclear deal with Iran while bashing old one with misinformation.
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[28-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There was news that Trump wanted to resume nuclear testing, yes


[28-Jun-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing concrete, though


[28-Jun-20 01:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, iirc, iran didn't want anything to do with trump's deal and reached out to the EU asking for offers on nuclear treaties


[28-Jun-20 01:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that didn't pan out either


[28-Jun-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mississippi-pushes-bill-to-remove-confederate-emblem-from-flag-2020-6

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[28-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Pontology#1010
This is how it should be done. Not mobs.


[28-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
end.my.life.com


[28-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
okay why


[28-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
why


[28-Jun-20 02:02 AM] illumnious#7938
why did thy put up that flag in the first place


[28-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
The line you go with to support Trump is that he *kept promises*?


[28-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
His promises were immoral.


[28-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He promised to commit war crimes.


[28-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
He promised to do a ton of shit against international law to hurt non-whites.


[28-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
His campaign promises were basically the desert table of the white supremacy buffet.


[28-Jun-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The confederate flag removal wouldn't be getting done *without* the mobs


[28-Jun-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without the mobs there's no pressure to do this


[28-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't make another country pay for our way to force them to be unable to seek a better life.


[28-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Awful lesson. I changed my mind.


[28-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't go after the families of trouble-makers.


[28-Jun-20 02:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Etc.


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Destructive mobs shouldn't be rewarded.


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tell that to the founding fathers


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who cares who is being rewarded, or whose fault things are?


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that matters is the statues go.


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the flags with them


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
With as little problems that come with that.


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Including statues of the founders?


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
That's what really gets tome


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly? Yes.


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The founders would be proud


[28-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Wtf


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founders hated cult of personalities...


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
George Washington turned down becoming a king for a reason.


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the founding fathers wouldn't give a rat's ass about the statues. they;d be happier that people are fighting for their freedom


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) hell yeah lets get that traitors emblem gone


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not a cult of personality, it's honoring them


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
No such distinction.


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honor democracy, not people.


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honour the good things they did, not some myth about their person


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody but historians know what their personalities were like. I certainly don't.


[28-Jun-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The constitution is their honoring


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's exactly why the statues exist


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't honor democracy.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
so people can worship them using whatever lies a few historians made up.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I honor our constitutional republic.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
No. Thomas Jefferson excoriated democracy.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two are not mutually exclusive.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Thomas Jefferson.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was one of the worst founding fathers.


[28-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
We are modeled on the Roman Republic, not Athenian Democracy.


[28-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't try to be either directly.


[28-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Pontology#1010
How was Thomas Jefferson one of the worst?


[28-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way he treated slaves.


[28-Jun-20 02:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> Destructive mobs shouldn't be rewarded.
@Pontology 

And why not reward those who wanted it gone and peacefuly protested?


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Pontology#1010
He was vituperatively anti-slavery, called it an "indelible stain" upon the nation and advocated its abolition


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Did he treat his slaves poorly despite that?


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, it's being more of a Republican than a Democracy that's why we hav pipelines running thru land owned from far away, with no benefit to the locals.


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's immoral.


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or did they leave very little impact when the cops came in and shot the place


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Private property shouldn't exist at any large scale.


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Like laffat square


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
On june 2nd 2020


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember that day


[28-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some group of shits in Wall Street should not be able to own the land they don't liv on and tell people what will happen to it.


[28-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Our foreign entanglements are really awful.

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[28-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
We shouldn't be involved elsewhere at all.


[28-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should protect the rights of men wherever they may be.


[28-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
That was the excuse for the iraq war


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
It was "liberating them"


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the *lie*.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush didn't actually believe it.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
itt stonetoss


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
neither did cheney.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush didn't believe all men are created equal.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
that's loss btw


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Almost no president we've had has.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's bad.


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
>It's loss


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh that's good.


[28-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Pontology#1010
And it's weird @Nebbie, you seem to actually want America to be the "world policeman"


[28-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems Jefferson drank the koolaid, chekking on things https://www.poplarforest.org/learn/thomas-jeffersons-life-and-times/the-enslaved-people-of-poplar-forest/jeffersons-views-on-slavery/

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Thomas Jefferson and Slavery: His Views on a Complex Issue
There are many layers to Thomas Jefferson, and slavery is a subject where his views are complex, reflecting moral contradictions and practical concerns.


[28-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I want everyone to be world police.


[28-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I want the UN to see Trump trying to bribe a guy


[28-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and arrest him


[28-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
and try him in a court above US law


[28-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
no sovereignty for countries.


[28-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's incredibly awful we hav a law on the books that says we should invade the Netherlands if the Hague tries to go after any of our soldiers for war crimes.


[28-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our gov't would never, ever giv them permission.


[28-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a blank chekk to commit genocides and do other horrible shit.


[28-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Pontology#1010
The UN is an absolute joke. Saudi Arabia is on their women's rights commission


[28-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's rights should be okay to violate just because of which borders they're from.


[28-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I think the UN could be made to not be a joke.


[28-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Trump isn't helping much


[28-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember how he acted about gay rights in the UN?


[28-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US vetoed a resolution against countries who execute people for being gay.


[28-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
A month later, Trump made some token gesture saying that countries who execute people for being gay are bad.


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
BITCH YOU SHUT DOWN A LITERAL ATTEMPT TO CONDEMN THEM JUST BEFORE


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
No


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/may/10/washingtonsources/no-trump-didnt-vote-death-penalty-gay-people/

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PolitiFact - No, Trump didn't vote for death penalty for gay people
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
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[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
People like Trump are a threat to democracy.


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a different claim.


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
It was vetoing a resolution against the death penalty


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Read the article


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
that's literally what he just said


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
It wasn't a resolution against the death penalty _for being gay_


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
did you not read it?


[28-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Read that sentence


[28-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
It wasn't a resolution specific to gays and lesbians


[28-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Washington's approach to foreign powers was dumb.


[28-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US should have come to the aid of Revolutionary France. We only didn't because it was a good way to get rid of our debts.


[28-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/following-backlash-us-clarifies-un-vote-death-penalty-gays-n807151

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Following backlash, US clarifies UN vote on "death penalty for gays"
A State Department spokesperson said the U.S. "unequivocally condemns the application of the death penalty for conduct such as homosexuality."
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[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And you know, no Navy


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The multi-page resolution condemned the imposition of the death penalty when "applied arbitrarily or in a discriminatory manner" and specifically condemned "the imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations."'


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also with Jefferson


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politifact is misleading.


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and it contained more than that


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
No, it isn't


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It very much is.


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
The resolution condemned the death penalty _in all cases_


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He bitched and moaned his whole life about how slavery was a necessary evil or something


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
And pushed for global abolition of the death penalty


[28-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He didn't even free his slaves when he died


[28-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But he invented the swivel chair!


[28-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Read the actual shit


[28-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
```Deploring the  fact that,  frequently,  poor  and  economically  vulnerable  persons  and  foreign nationals are disproportionately subjected to the death penalty, that laws carrying the death penalty  are  used  against  persons  exercising  their  rights  to  freedom  of  expression,  thought, conscience, religion,and peaceful assembly and association, and that persons belonging to religious  or  ethnic  minorities  are  disproportionately  represented  among  those  sentenced  to the death penalty, Condemning in  particular the  use  of  the  death  penalty  against  persons  with  mental  or intellectual disabilities, persons below 18 years of age at the time of the commission of the crime, andpregnant women, Condemning the imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such  as  apostasy,  blasphemy,  adultery  and  consensual  same-sex  relations,  and  expressing serious  concern  that  the  application  of  the  death  penalty  for  adultery  is  disproportionately imposed on women,```


[28-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "condemning" parts are the meat of what the UN actually proposed.


[28-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Politifact got their shit wrong and literally just believed the Trump administration's excuse, it seems.


[28-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking the Southern koolaid


[28-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
The resolution was _clearly_ for abolition of the death penalty


[28-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
If you read the actual resolution


[28-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That blakks are inferior, can't think for themselves, need a master, therefore necessary evil.

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[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_screencaps and posts to twitter_


[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US basically said in going against the resolution that "well you'd also maybe stop us from executing retarded mexicans who aren't US citizens REEEEEEEEEE".


[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being Jefferson's descendants


[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because that's the other big part of what the UN was saying.


[28-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was saying the death penalty was being used on people *who shouldn't be facing punishment at all*


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Two centuries of "No, he didn't rape his female slaves"


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Until DNA fucked them over


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Do we execute any illegal immigrants? I thought we just deported them to be tried in their countries.


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's disproportionately used on foreign nationals and people with disabilities, and in some places even used on those who are underage.


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
WE DO.


[28-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/08/planned-execution-mexican-national-draws-international-ire/

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Texas executes Mexican national despite international ire
Texas executed a Mexican national late Wednesday night despite a flurry of last-minute appeals and objections from his native country and United Nations human rights experts.
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[28-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't support that, but if you're in a foreign country you're subject to their laws.


[28-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(also execute legal immigrants)


[28-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a pretty serious problem that we execute people who aren't our citizens without permission from their country.


[28-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree. They should be deported and dealt with by their country.


[28-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I disagree; break local law, face local penalty


[28-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That said, US is very "lberal" with its penalties


[28-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UN was bundling together a bunch of stupid shit, most of which the US does, into one big reason to restrict or completely abolish the death penalty.


[28-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
"we don't do that" "WE DO" "oh, well, it isn't so bad"


[28-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the US was like "NAH", and then when people pointed out like HALF of that bundle was that countries execute gays, the US was like "oh we're against just that one thing, totally, we just won't support this resolution cause we like OTHER stupid shit"


[28-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Pontology#1010
I never said we don't do that, I asked if we do


[28-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, that's always the excuse.


[28-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What's REALLY fucked up is when countries try to extradite or repatriate people for breaking local laws abroad


[28-Jun-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
See Assange or any number of "cybercriminals"


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is never going to vote for a resolution against executing gays in the UN under this administration.


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any tiny sliver of anything else bundled in and they'll blame it.


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That'd piss off the arabs


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't have that


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
If a law contains 10 good things and 1 unconstitutional thing, it's still a bad law


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abolishing the death penalty isn't unconstitutional.


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
I know, I'm making an analogy


[28-Jun-20 02:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UN laid out a case for why **the majority** of death penalty uses are bad.


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
True story: slavery is constitutional


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Pontology#1010
The resolution contained a lot of good things and one thing the U.S. doesn't support


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Pontology#1010
*was


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is like, 7 really shitty things being banned, but also 3 neutral things.


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
US goes "we like all 6 of those good things, and we totally care about those 4 shitty things being shitty"


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
13th amendment: do crime, be slave


[28-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Anyone can see the loophole


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
But no cruel or unusual punishments


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make blakk people criminals, say criminals are bad, bam, racism in disguise.


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
If a prisoner refuses to make license plates, they can't be forced to


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
>no cruel or unusual punishments


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so no putting people alone in a cell with no contact with others or no entertainment, right?


[28-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, something that if you did to a PoW would be a war crime...


[28-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Enemy combatants have more rights; it's a contract with other nations to protect our own soldiers


[28-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm sure when someone wants to talk to their family, in the age of telephone lines not even being physical lines anymore necessarily, we can just easily connec- OH WAIT SORRY $5 A MINUTE


[28-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But internally? lol, who's gonna retribute?


[28-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, and where do you think people get the money for that $5 a minute?


[28-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Either from their families, so that an entire family is basically punished for one guy being bad


[28-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
or it comes from them making license plates.


[28-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is basically slavery with extra steps.


[28-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk families are being sukked dry of the fruits of their labor, and told to work harder all the while.


[28-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Why do you spell it blakk?


[28-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's special that way


[28-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He hate's the letter C for being useless, either being an S or a K


[28-Jun-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have never understood the Q always needs to be followed by a U thing


[28-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Q is entirely redundant with k and w.


[28-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's worse is it didn't used to exist in English.


[28-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Queen" used to be "cwen"


[28-Jun-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also used to have a letter for the "th" sound


[28-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
2, in fact.


[28-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
I miss þe letter for þe þ sound.


[28-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the one that survived longer.


[28-Jun-20 02:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Du U No De w A Mi Cwen


[28-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
cawen

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[28-Jun-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
damn laptop not coming with a numpad


[28-Jun-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could be typing thorns right now


[28-Jun-20 02:44 AM] PwnyPony#6185
only 17+ inch laptops come with full sized keyboards :sad:

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[28-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Pontology#1010
y r u ga


[28-Jun-20 02:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Because some men are attractive to me.


[28-Jun-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I þought þat þere would never be a þot as þrottling as þis was


[28-Jun-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
copy paste works but i can only do one letter at a time with that


[28-Jun-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504780-white-house-goes-through-dizzying-change-in-staff

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White House goes through dizzying change in staff
President Trump has replaced his chief of staff, press secretary, legislative affairs director and domestic policy adviser and retooled his communications shop in a span of about three months and will soon bid goodbye to two top economic advisers.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_062520getty_spike.jpg


[28-Jun-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/504877-white-house-denies-it-was-briefed-about-afghan-militant-bounties

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White House denies it was briefed about Afghan militant bounties
White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany denied a Friday
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_06272020_gettyimages.jpg


[28-Jun-20 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so the WHPS didn't deny that the intelligence exists, but merely whether the pres was briefed on it, to sweep under the rug the issue that the intelligence is credible and probably should be acted on?


[28-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well in Trump's mind, if it's not worth being told to him, it shouldn't be acted on.


[28-Jun-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/06/27/wall-street-quietly-begins-warning-about-a-biden-presidency/

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Wall Street Quietly Begins Warning About A Biden Presidency
As Biden surges in the polls, Wall Street worries about a likely corporate tax hike.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F5ef794a46cd39700069cf1e5%2F0x0.jpg%3FcropX1%3D0%26cropX2%3D5181%26cropY1%3D88%26cropY2%3D3003


[28-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Beat up Wall Street Like Its Name is Corn Pop


[28-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden please hire me


[28-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's going far too easy.


[28-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make stokks illegal.


[28-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Begin arresting the shit out of the people who trade them and find where they're hiding most of their money, who they're protecting like Epstein, etc.


[28-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if you only allow people that work at the company to own stokks in it


[28-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That might work, but there would still need to be a lot of rules.


[28-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People receiving the fruits of their labour is communism


[28-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Broke: Taxes are theft


[28-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Woke: Profit is theft


[28-Jun-20 03:07 AM] wren#0114
dont violate my nap


[28-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your MAP will be violated.


[28-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
He won't just not kill himself, he will be kept alive for information.


[28-Jun-20 03:11 AM] wren#0114
map?


[28-Jun-20 03:12 AM] jlun2#8758
🗺️


[28-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minor-Attracted Person. It's an Epstein joke.

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[28-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians get joked about as just wanting to buy children to fukk etc.


[28-Jun-20 03:12 AM] wren#0114

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[28-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So was looking into the bar exam, found this thing that really activated my almonds

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[28-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yeah, this is how the system does it.


[28-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You set some "standard" that seems benign.


[28-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then you put racists in charge of maintaining it.


[28-Jun-20 03:14 AM] jlun2#8758
then laugh at those "idiot graduates" for not getting a job their boomer parents "easily" got with min qualification


[28-Jun-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/504876-1700-troops-will-support-trump-salute-to-america-celebrations-july-4-pentagon

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1,700 troops will support Trump 'Salute to America' celebrations Ju...
The Pentagon announced Saturday that roughly 1,700 service members will be involved in the federal government’s upcoming July 4 celebrations.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ustroops_flag_111319istock.jpg


[28-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
>make stocks illegal


[28-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
But all of my retirement savings are in stocks


[28-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Why the heck should investing in companies be illegal


[28-Jun-20 03:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> savings
im like :ts_cry:


[28-Jun-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of your savings are in entities that could go under in an instant?


[28-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Most of it, and a bit in gold.


[28-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
I'll buy more gold later once I have more money


[28-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Gold is the only thing that can't go under in an instant.


[28-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>inb4 the DRC unearths 1mil tonnes of gold


[28-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, and other intrinsically valuable precious metals I guess, but gold is the standard.


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Better off investing in metals used in electronics


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Copper.


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Copper will always be valuable.


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Gold is quite valuable for its use in electronics.


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Copper too.


[28-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Most people are begging for diploma privilege because we're afraid for our family members


[28-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also one of the places the test is being given in Missouri is in a major tourist area during the height of tourism season


[28-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, on politifact


[28-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
they were saying "Trump votes for death penalty for being gay." is wrong, which, yes it is.


[28-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Trump votes against restrictions on death penalty due it being used to target gays" would be mostly true.


[28-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
That would also be false


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
The White House said plainly that it unequivocally opposes the death penalty for homosexuality


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Trump's administration votes against restrictions on death penalty due it being used to target vulnerable groups" would be *almost* entirely true.


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
In fact, the Trump administration has pursued of global campaign of abolishing the criminalization of homosexuality


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The White House lies, regularly.


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone goes against a measure that would stop a thing, then says that thing is bad, then goes and does some shit similar to that thing


[28-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Nebbie is also biased, regularly.


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

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Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization ...
The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_08/2757981/190219-richard-grenell-germany-cs-941a_b93abc3015cf42801775b2dbe2728fdc.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do I need to mute you again for tossing in ad hominem?


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biased, more like based.


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I will do so.


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "global effort" is a token gesture.


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
And UN resolutions aren't?


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration has removed requirements for physicians to treat people regardless of LGBT conditions.


[28-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are as well, yes.


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is, the Trump administration is generally against gays


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/acting-intelligence-head-richard-grenell-s-push-decriminalize-homosexuality-has-n1140131

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Acting intelligence head's push to decriminalize homosexuality has ...
Grenell, as ambassador to Germany, announced an administration-wide push to decriminalize homosexuality in the 68 countries where it is still illegal.
https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_32/2759476/190220-richard-grenell-ew-1121a_7b5182eb31b17bde750dec74029e6ce3.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has sided against their rights on numerous occasions when things actually matter.


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
a year later


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And for the UN resolution, they didn't like that a token gesture wouldn't be narrowly in line with what they wanted to say


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
> Since Grenell's efforts were announced almost a year ago exactly, just one country has decriminalized homosexuality: Botswana, where the high court overturned the ban in June as part of a legal challenge that started long before 2019, according to Ryan Thoreson, an LGBTQ researcher for Human Rights Watch.


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
they wanted their own token gesture.


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Sunnyside#3103
They openly criticized iran's treatment of homosexuality


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[28-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actions speak louder than fukking words.


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Iran also criticized police violence in the US


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration sided against gay rights in employment discrimination.


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Currently on the UNHRC are Libya, Mauritania, Sudan, Brazil, Indonesia, and Poland


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just diplomatic shitposting


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration is barring trans people from military service.


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
so basically, only one country has actually decriminalized homosexuality since the announced effort, and it had been in the courts for years


[28-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration is allowing doctors to refuse to treat gay people (in what is a HUGE breach of ethics, note)


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Pontology#1010
If trans people are statistically more of a liability than an asset it makes sense


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not.


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
except they aren't


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Research was done on this


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
they are only more likely to commit suicide specifically when you don't giv them sex changes they want


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration has decided to refuse to allow people who've undergone sex changes..


[28-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who are at no greater risk.


[28-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not talking about suicide. I'm talking about the cost of giving them sex changes, during which they can't be deployed etc


[28-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The data does not bakk up what the administration did.


[28-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The administration came up with bullshit where it just asked people that were loyal for their opinions.


[28-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html

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The Implications of Allowing Transgender Personnel to Serve Openly
If the U.S. military decides to let transgender people serve openly, the number would likely be a small fraction of the total force and have minimal impact on readiness and health care costs.
https://wwwassets.rand.org/content/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1530/jcr:content/par/teaser.aspectfit.0x1200.jpg/1522098530154.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike the PREVIOUS administration who relied on a large third party study looking at militaries around the world.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which I believe is what Crow just linked.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Crow#5457
> Using private health insurance claims data to estimate the cost of extending gender transition–related health care coverage to transgender personnel indicated that active-component health care costs would increase by between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually, representing a 0.04- to 0.13-percent increase in active-component health care expenditures.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Do you know how costly hormonal therapy is? And how much it can impact a person's emotions and mental ability? You wouldn't want to put them in a combat situation


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't serve in the military due to my flat feet.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Navy?


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flat feet are not the same thing as just wanting to be a girl.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under current rules, simply WANTING to be different make you barred.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine barring people who leave their religion.


[28-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Pontology#1010
It kind of is. The military could try to accommodate me with special arch supports for me in all the military boots, but that's not reasonable


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Same goes with special accommodates for trans people


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be reasonable for any other employer, actually.


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The military gets all kinds of special stupid treatment in the US.


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Crow#5457
the main thing is that a lot of transgender soldiers don't actually plan on pursuing the changes that would take them out of combat readiness


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But even so, it's still at least a physical difference in your combat ability.


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Simply wanting to be a girl, or having been one, isn't.


[28-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Transitioning may also cause difficulties within the military unit and cohesion.


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The data does not support what has been done.


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's bullshit, Psker.


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The study disproved that.


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They looked at how actual militaries hav dealt with this


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
and those militaries show no problems.


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Which study?


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
out of the estimated 1320-6630 transgender service members, only between 29-129 want to get care that would disrupt their ability to deploy


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has had trans troops for 20 years


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Does the military have something like communal showers and lockers?


[28-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
the RAIN study


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The one Obama relied on for his decisions.


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Would men who identify as women be changing in the female locker room and showers around naked women?


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
which means at worst, 9.77% of transgenders serving in the military would actually want to get changes that would reduce their combat effectiveness


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under Obama's rules, that is up to the unit commander, Pontology.


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under Trump's rules, it's whatever the person was at birth.


[28-Jun-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
regardless of any sex changes or anything since.


[28-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which means that unit commanders who hav problems because someone who looks and acts very male is now assigned female stuff hav no recourse to fix shit.


[28-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Pontology#1010
It doesn't quite make sense that we let people with psychological disorders in the military in the first place.


[28-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure, the DSM renamed it from "disorder" to "distress" to avoid stigma


[28-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
And just  how many trans even want to serve or are serving


[28-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
I doubt its a significant amount


[28-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trans people disproportionately want to join.


[28-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Source?


[28-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And actually disproportionately *hav served*.


[28-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/28/transgender-military-ban-trump-data

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Data sketch: trans people 2.3 times more likely to serve in the US ...
Trump’s plan creates a new challenge for a group that is already stigmatized – and is more likely than the general population to serve, research shows
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/546f1c6a33875b471ca8d1dd7d6317e942b0c7be/0_47_4003_2401/master/4003.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMtYWdlLTIwMTcucG5n&enable=upscale&s=4b6d887313c75014ba4b9ef7fb72a9be


[28-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Wow look at the size of suicide attempts


[28-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Pontology the disorders thing is utter bullshit


[28-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Sunnyside yeah that's what happens when you shit on them like this.


[28-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
MAYBE STOP SHITTING ON THEM


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Pontology#1010
If it's not a disorder then why are they medicated to help with it?


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The DSM used to classify being gay as a disorder.


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you explain this, @Pontology?


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Pontology#1010
You don't need medication for being gay


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Nah. It's likely because their brain chemistry is in flux during transition


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not what the DSM uses for its definition.


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Pontology#1010
You don't need medication to fix something unless something's wrong, i.e. a disorder


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The DSM doesn't care about medication.


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not correct.


[28-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medication in the brain is something to alter someone's brain chemicals.


[28-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most disorders are not chemical-related.


[28-Jun-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
The DSM is about treatment, gender dysphoria is classified as a disorder to allow for a diagnosis and treatment under the US system. I guarantee you the system would not care otherwise.


[28-Jun-20 04:12 AM] byte[]#2610
:transgender_pride_flag:


[28-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally if you just, really want to be a girl


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
you get classified as having the disorder


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
and then you can say "okay doc giv me the surgery"


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
And that drug induced imbalance might be when the suicides happened


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system is structured around requiring a diagnosis for treatment.


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not a disorder unless it causes significant distress and interferes with your life functioning


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why the **diagnostic and statistics manual** lists it.


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Becoming a girl isn't as simple as a wish and a magic wand


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, that's also the case.


[28-Jun-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want something and don't get it, that can cause you distress.


[28-Jun-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
Metaanalyses have concluded that most research on causes and treatments for transgender individuals have been counfounded too heavily to draw concrete statistics either way at this time


[28-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, if society shits on you for it


[28-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
that can cause you distress and interfere with your life functioning.


[28-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the justification for putting homosexuality in.


[28-Jun-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then homophobes went LOOK LOOK, IT'S A DISORDER, SO WE'RE RIGHT


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Why is pedophilia a disorder when there are plenty of pedophiles for whom it doesn't cause distress?


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So eventually it got pulled as society's stance lessened.


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it allows for diagnoses.


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then allows for treatment, like behavioraly therapy.


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
what about this thing? Or this thing? Or this thing?


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] byte[]#2610
🎣


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, something to note


[28-Jun-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration claims it only stops people who *hav a disorder*


[28-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Crow#5457
everything!


[28-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
...except that's not true


[28-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
their own rules say that if you had a sex change, **ever**, you aren't allowed in


[28-Jun-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
even if you do not hav any disorder.


[28-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My rindsbratwurst cooled down and now it looks like an uncut shrivelled chode =[


[28-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
I used to donate blood all the time, and I can't anymore because I got a false positive for hepatitis.


[28-Jun-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
It doesn't matter that I don't have it


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
The once false positive sets off their alarms enough that it's not worth the chance


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's stupid.


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't justify allowing other retardation.


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav the capability to test people's actual combat capability individually.


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
When dealing with highly delicate situations like blood donation or military service, there are some risks you want to minimize through over-caution


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
testing is not the same thing as the real deal


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is no reason for this stupid blanket ban on trans people **except to punish Trans people with one of their main ways of securing stable employment**


[28-Jun-20 04:18 AM] Sunnyside#3103
if it was. we'd cure ptsd


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is a non sequitor.


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Testing has nothing to do with curing PTSD.


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
All of this is a nonsequitur


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No risk is being minimized here.


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Existing troops who are trans are being denied the thing that reduces their risk of suicide.


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Increasing risks.


[28-Jun-20 04:19 AM] Sunnyside#3103
you feel like this is out to get them. when this could very well be to protect them.


[28-Jun-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
that's called benevolent sexism


[28-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Sunnyside#3103
military life is harsh, hard, and stressful


[28-Jun-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
plz research it


[28-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
While news trans troops aren't allowed in when we hav the tools to determine if they've got something actually impacting combat ability.


[28-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Sunnyside you remember the anti-suffragism propaganda?


[28-Jun-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://imgur.com/gallery/sYXBrqd/

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With election day coming up in the US, it's important for women to remember that their right to vote came only after a long and bitter struggle.
https://i.imgur.com/zrpTKs0h.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Pontology#1010
The anti-suffrage movement was spearheaded and led by women's organizations


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/qyvYdvJ.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/qyvYdvJ.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's irrelevant.


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about images like this.


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i find it relevant


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/DBhnh35.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/DBhnh35.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it shows that other women were opposed to the sufferage movement


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
suppose there's trans that are supportive of the ban


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Most people opposed to suffrage were women according to Wikipedia


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're trying to just change the argument


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
so you don't hav to face how shitty you are.


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
because hey maybe that means they'll be exempt from the draft should one happen


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The subject is what "benevolent sexism" is.


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And why it's shitty.


[28-Jun-20 04:23 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i thought it was about trans troops


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Pontology#1010
It's good. It's recognition of biological differences. Like how only men are drafted, not women.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
or was it trump's support of gays...


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You used benevolent sexism to say that it's okay to forbid trans troops being in the military.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
TRUE STORY:
Spain in the 1930s, left wingers opposed women suffrage while right wingers promoted it, on the grounds that polling showed most women had conservative values


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biological differences are on average.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex is a spectrum.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should be given individualized testing and treatment.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes and it's a. b. and c


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Jun-20 04:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
male, female, and herm


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Sex is not a spectrum. There are men, women, and a small percentage of intersex people with things like XXY chromosomes.


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
XXY doesn't cause intersex from what I've read.


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about the hormones.


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Sunnyside#3103
dna plays a role too nebbie


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
(one X just inactivates the other randomly in each cell btw)


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Pontology#1010
One of my friends is XXY, has both a penis and vagina


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
X inactivation.


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It happens pretty early on.


[28-Jun-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actual herms are rare.


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
XYY and XXY are not guaranteed to cause any noticible changes.


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Sunnyside#3103
then by your argument then it's two genders


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Rare" does not mean "to be ignored"


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
A man with a hormone imbalance is a man with a hormone imbalance, not someone who's 20% female


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are talking about sex traits beyond just genitals


[28-Jun-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
two sets of working genitals are very rare.


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But sex traits that aren't the sex average of what the chromosomes say are not.


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i thought we were talking about anti-suffergets
or was it trans troops


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're the one who keeps changing it.


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't make me mute you by continuing to pull this.


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you want to talk about benevolent sexism or not?


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i didn't bring up benevolent sexism


[28-Jun-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You literally DID IT.


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
He didn't though...


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] wren#0114
bruh


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not make me mute you too.


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
byte literally pointed it out when he did it.


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
I was trying to explain why it's shitty.


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But no, just gotta deny deny deny


[28-Jun-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Byte interpreted his comment as benevolent sexism, yes


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://i.imgur.com/DBhnh35.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/DBhnh35.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you understand what this says?


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Women who wanted to keep their benevolent sexism


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am not talking about who made this.


[28-Jun-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I am talking about what the point of it was.


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying that we shouldn't giv women the right to vote *to protect them*.


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, that was the opinion of the Women's Anti-Suffrage League


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care whose opinion it was.


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about why it was shitty.


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
History has proven them right in what they feared, considering that women are no longer supported by their husbands


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the idea that we should take away someone's rights


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
for their own good.


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
And now need to work


[28-Jun-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That them having more rights is bad for them.


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, you think that women shouldn't be allowed to do what they want?


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is forcing them to work.


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society is now just paying them almost the same as men receive.


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Before suffrage, it was an implicit right of women to have a husband who financially supports them inasmuch as that was the social norm


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
They no longer have this implicit right


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
This is what they feared


[28-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it was an implicit right of blakks to hav a master, right?


[28-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, the slaveowner fed them, housed them, etc.


[28-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clearly they were better off, guys!


[28-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same argument. Do you see the problem here?


[28-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women were basically sex slaves to their husbands.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marital rape was legal in some states until the *80s*


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women were subservient and not allowed to do what they wanted.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what forced them to marry.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, there's actually some data on what makes women happy.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not being provided for.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's **being able to choose their mates**.


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I've no doubt


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] wren#0114
are you listening to yourself rn


[28-Jun-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm also not an anti-suffragette


[28-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/12/18125659/women-sex-socialism-feminism-kristen-ghodsee

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https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/12/18125659/women-sex-socialism-feminism-kristen-ghodsee
Why women have better sex under socialism, according to an anthropo...
An interview with Kristen Ghodsee on her provocative thesis.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/oIQeIoJGoALxLMxjD_AuU6T4z8Q=/0x259:3677x2184/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13616877/shutterstock_482782408.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Pontology#1010
>women have better sex under socialism


[28-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
As it turns out, when you create a situation where women aren't discriminated against


[28-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
and they don't *need* to marry someone for money


[28-Jun-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
they end up happier.


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They end up having good sex with guys they chose.


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/Stevenson_ParadoxDecliningFemaleHappiness_Dec08.pdf


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Women's happiness has been falling for decades relative to men


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Female happiness is low right now because they can't afford shit.


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's either giv a guy a blowjob or starve.


[28-Jun-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
psker brought up benevolent sexism, byte just identified it as such...


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/726622895002091522


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That destroys women's psychology.


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Majority of college majors are women


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
there isn't anything to interpet, this is literally benevolent sexism


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can you imagine being in a situation where you are told you should work just like a man, but paid less, and then you get forced to marry someone you don't like just so both of you can survive?


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] wren#0114
>paid less


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, paid less.


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Pay discrimination on the basis of sex has been illegal since the Equal Pay Act of 1965


[28-Jun-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women are passed over for promations more often.


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just cause it's illegal doesn't mean it's not done.


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need enforcement mechanisms to enforce laws.


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] wren#0114
women in the same position are paid the same


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women are given worse positions.


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
If it's done, it would be cheaper to hire women than men


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
so there would be pro-women discrimination


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
since they're paid less for the same job


[28-Jun-20 04:37 AM] wren#0114
I don't see how women are given worse postions. Women are celebrated in the workforce today, very much especially for management positions


[28-Jun-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
A fun thing from not long ago, btw https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/former-employee-sues-company-claiming-anti-gay-discrimination-n1082681

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https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/former-employee-sues-company-claiming-anti-gay-discrimination-n1082681
Boss slashes gay man’s pay in half so he’d be on par with ‘the othe...
He alleges he was ostracized at work and eventually fired from the New York City event-planning company.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_46/3101561/191114-wesley-wernecke-low-quality-template-2019-se-526p_d7d997caf361b4508459e902698fb2c0.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
'A former employee at a high-profile event company in New York claims in a discrimination complaint filed this week that he was fired because of his sexuality after his boss told him his salary was being cut in half because he was being paid "so much more than the other females in the office."'


[28-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/women-are-21-less-likely-to-be-promoted-than-male-coworkers/

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https://www.techrepublic.com/article/women-are-21-less-likely-to-be-promoted-than-male-coworkers/
Women are 21% less likely to be promoted than male coworkers
Women in the enterprise face a leaky corporate pipeline, according to research from Bentley University.
https://tr1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/11/28/292593a7-912d-421e-98e0-300e9edc43f4/thumbnail/770x578/a9d1eb23ded6873dbe5585dcc54c1264/women.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
That's obviously a bigoted boss. It's an anecdote


[28-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Women are 21% less likely to be promoted probably because women are more agreeable, psychologically speaking


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>2 million anecdotes later


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
That is, they're less assertive/aggressive when it comes to climbing the corporate ladder


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You know why that is?


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nearly a quarter is a pretty huge amount to be less by by personality alone.


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they think they're lucky


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And don't want to rock the boat or be too assertive


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] wren#0114
the study linked in the article is removed for some reason


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they know they've got it bad


[28-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And don't want to risk it


[28-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So they agree to less


[28-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bentley might've changed their URLs.


[28-Jun-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Women are on average .59 standard deviations more agreeable than men


[28-Jun-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
The thing about bell curves is that a small difference in mean compounds to arbitrarily large differences at the extremes


[28-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Pontology#1010
e.g. the average man is only slightly more violent than the average woman, but nearly 100% of the most violent criminals on earth are men


[28-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Women are 9000% more likely to be told to "Smile!"


[28-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2018/12/Bentley-CWB-Pipeline-Research-Report-Fall-2018.pdf


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gotta wear makeup, gotta clean up, gotta learn to cook, be pretty and don't make a fuss


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This appears to be what the article was linking to.


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Pontology#1010
https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/blog/diversity/2019/how-women-find-jobs-gender-report

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https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/blog/diversity/2019/how-women-find-jobs-gender-report
New Report: Women Apply to Fewer Jobs Than Men, But Are More Likely...
Women and men find jobs differently. And as more and more companies want to build gender-balanced teams and hire and promote more women, the question is — what is that difference exactly?
https://business.linkedin.com/content/dam/business/talent-solutions/global/en_us/blog/2019/03/how-women-find-jobs-gender-insights-report.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Women are more likely to be hired


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
as someone who actually took a psychology course and studied sexual dimorphism on these characteristics I can tell you that for virtually all characteristics the intrasex variation is significantly greater than the intersex variation for the same trait


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ingrained by a century of movies and four centuries of novels and three milenia of written culture


[28-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Pontology#1010
They just apply to fewer jobs


[28-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jwebb/2016/03/31/women-are-still-paid-less-than-men-even-in-the-same-job/

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jwebb/2016/03/31/women-are-still-paid-less-than-men-even-in-the-same-job/
Women Are Still Paid Less Than Men - Even In The Same Job
That women receive lower wages than men is a known fact of most economies. However, Procurement Leaders research shows clear evidence that women earn lower wages than their male counterparts even when in the same role.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fjwebb%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F03%2Fwomens-salaries-1200x394.jpg


[28-Jun-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgAyAcjUZ4

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PCOASOBT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgAyAcjUZ4
Fuzzy Math
A bush parody by "The Bots" (www.thebots.net)
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[28-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women don't just get paid less overall


[28-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
they get paid less in the same position


[28-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All these "studies" and "reports" are meaningless because they completely disregard that there is no and never has been a level playing field


[28-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Completely ignore thousands of years of culture that people are raised in from birth


[28-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The very moment a child opens their eyes in their new crib, their room is painted blue or pink


[28-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their toys are dinosaurs or bunnies


[28-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note about kids and toys and genders.


[28-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're gifted race cars or barbies


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Infants *will* gravitate to different toys by sex, on average.


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] wren#0114
if those are average salaries for CEOs and such, then a couple outliers with abnormally larger salaries could skew that report easily


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically, you will see males gravitate toward more male toys.


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lego or play kitchens


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] wren#0114
it wasn't a very large sample size


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Females do not seem to care.


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOWEVER


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
As children grow up, new differences emerge.


[28-Jun-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Females start disregarding male toys.


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite being okay with them when younger.


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Even in chimp children, the boy chimps prefer trucks and the girl chimps prefer dolls


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is believed this is where the role of gender stereotypes in society comes in.


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then they enter the workforce and some idiot goes "well these trends clearly show a _predisposition_"


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] wren#0114
kek, someone studied that?


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well I fucking wonder why


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Women stop being okay with legos and demand dolls, basically.


[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/

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Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of ...
Socialization processes, parents, or peers encouraging play with gender specific toys are thought to be the primary force shaping sex differences in toy preference. A contrast in view is that toy preferences reflect biologically determined preferences ...
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[28-Jun-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Society tells them that they shouldn't like legos.


[28-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Pontology#1010
General trend is boys are more object-oriented, while girls are more people-oriented. Applies to other ape species as well.


[28-Jun-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are sex differences on average, but society **compounds them**.


[28-Jun-20 04:49 AM] wren#0114
haha truck go vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm


[28-Jun-20 04:49 AM] wren#0114
I wanna see the monkeys playing now


[28-Jun-20 04:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would just like to point out that there's an argument over toy preferences based on gender in a brony server

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[28-Jun-20 04:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Literally everyone you're talking to is here as a living counterexample to your point


[28-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
@byte[] The idea that there are more differences within sexes than between them is true in any one dimension, but generalizing it to multiple traits at once is lewonton's fallacy

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[28-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Here, two groups have more differences within them than between them in height and weight respectively


[28-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
But accounting for both at once, are clearly separable


[28-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the point isn't that you *can* separate them.


[28-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that we don't need to treat them separately on every single damn thing.


[28-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, are we talking about like, the idea that you ask someone their toy preference *and* how much like explosions?


[28-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Why would you want to do it like that*?


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes you can barrage people with more questions to determine their male/femaleness so individual varations on one thing don't lead to getting an overlap.


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But *why*?


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I say we settle this with a duel


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Pontology#1010
sir frosty confirmed male


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would only be relevant if a given thing like a pay gap was based on multiple variables in a situation like that.


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Ah, but it is.


[28-Jun-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
But there's no reason to expect that clean separation on that specifically.


[28-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
How do you know?


[28-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Pontology#1010
That article you linked discusses multiple variables.


[28-Jun-20 04:56 AM] Pontology#1010
taking time off to raise children is one (not getting raises while doing that)


[28-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Pontology#1010
agreeableness is another


[28-Jun-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking time off to raise children is something that's not female-specific beyond maternity leave.


[28-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both parents can and will raise a child.


[28-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maternity leave is supposed to be standard AND NOT hurt your pay.


[28-Jun-20 04:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Reminds me of this

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[28-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does it remind you of that?


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does a bunch of bullshit with people fighting over something BASICALLY EVERY WESTERN COUNRY has matter for this?


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh, just your saying it's supposed to be standard. I was reminded of how CNN argued it hurts women.


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Pontology#1010
So I don't know if it should be or not.


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're the odd country out.


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care if CNN is retarded about it.


[28-Jun-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
We are still the odd country out.


[28-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should fix that so women aren't shafted.


[28-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Pontology#1010
>not wanting women to be shafted
What are you, gay?


[28-Jun-20 05:02 AM] Pontology#1010
ok, uncouth sex joke


[28-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Only mares should be shafted.


[28-Jun-20 05:03 AM] Pontology#1010
And also stallions.


[28-Jun-20 05:32 AM] wren#0114
gay


[28-Jun-20 05:36 AM] illumnious#7938
how gay?


[28-Jun-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
83.69%


[28-Jun-20 05:49 AM] jlun2#8758
I hated "male toys" because im sheltered & never heard of most of them yet ppl kept assuming i know them by gender so :shrugpony:


[28-Jun-20 05:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> @Pontology I used to donate blood all the time, and I can't anymore because I got a false positive for hepatitis.
I used to but I answered the gay question wrong and then it instabanned me system-wide for. Though I think that was finally removed, I haven't gotten around to trying to give blood again to see if I'm still blocked.


[28-Jun-20 05:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also thoroughly agreed with the horse part :nut:


[28-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I lie on the gay question because I know for an absolute fact I don't have an STI


[28-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I follow its spirit


[28-Jun-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
The gay question is reasonable tbh considering that

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[28-Jun-20 05:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Despite being 2% of the population, gay men account for 74% of new annual HIV infections according to the CDC


[28-Jun-20 05:53 AM] wren#0114
shouldn't there just be testing in general before donation


[28-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, but there are false negatives


[28-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
They want to minimize that with extra precautions


[28-Jun-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
So if you've used needles to shoot up drugs, you can't donate


[28-Jun-20 05:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Makes sense. Same with the gay sex question.


[28-Jun-20 06:05 AM] Raptorshy#6268
There is testing already.


[28-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And they should be able to override it with more rigorous testing if the option allows, even if its through a third party


[28-Jun-20 06:06 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(as in testing at your doctor)


[28-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ya see


[28-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is America


[28-Jun-20 06:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Which means we should fix it and not single out people to be shitty to, and we might eventually.


[28-Jun-20 06:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
In this case I'm pretty sure they did eventually


[28-Jun-20 06:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Apparently new guidance is you may be eligible if it's been at least 12 months since the last time you had male-male sex


[28-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It costs too much to screen all the blood!" is incredibly fucking stupid


[28-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe this has to do with how long it takes HIV to become testable? Like, if you contracted it just yesterday, it might not have duplicated enough in your body yet to be detectable with high confidence


[28-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All blood should be screened for all bloodborne diseases


[28-Jun-20 06:15 AM] Pontology#1010
It is


[28-Jun-20 06:16 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure the new guidance has to do with testing reliability depending on how long since a disease has been contracted


[28-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
So, since the Left doesn't want to live under the rules of the Right, and the Right doesn't want to live under the rules of the left, and they're mostly separated by city and geographic area, does it make a lot of sense to anyone else to consider redrawing state lines?


[28-Jun-20 06:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It seems that that would remove a whole lot of this political tension that's been screwing with western culture lately


[28-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Also, part of that would be each area like a big city could set it's own rules, but would have no power beyond it's borders.


[28-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Pontology#1010
One of the whole points of states is to allow this flexibility


[28-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I agree


[28-Jun-20 06:21 AM] wren#0114
are you advocating for city states


[28-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Unfortunately, things have been changing on that front over the last couple centuries


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm seeing a lot of political tension, and it's looking like a lot of people are violently upset about it


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Californians keep moving to other states and bring the california with them


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I want to find solutions to big probolems


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
We need to build a wall around california


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, one of the ways this could be done is if other states had the right to refuse immigration from places like California


[28-Jun-20 06:22 AM] wren#0114
lol what


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
City states.


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Pontology#1010
that's a radical proposal


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Pontology#1010
no


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Federal level stuff only for basic defence of the land mass


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It sounds a lot more like what the original constitution was


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] wren#0114
anarcho polisism


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think states ever had the ability to control their borders within the union


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Pontology#1010
aside from commerce


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Pontology#1010
but not the movement of american citizens


[28-Jun-20 06:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Remember that whole 2nd amendment "shall not be infringed" bit? Remember how there are an absurdly complicated and ridiculous number of gun laws?


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's pretty infringing. At least by my read of the situation


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
So my point there is that the original constitution is not longer the de facto document that the country is based on.


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Er... Union.


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656
cause rights are just a concept that the ruling class uses to control the under class they never mean anything


[28-Jun-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Second Amendment still has weight though. E.g. Supreme Court ruled that cities can't ban handguns.


[28-Jun-20 06:25 AM] wren#0114
this smells of tenuous b8


[28-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
b8 for what?


[28-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is the politics channel, right?


[28-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Pontology#1010
honahue's comment is bait


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
No, tumult, this is the break room.


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
We have a sandwich vending machine


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Eww.


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Never liked those


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Yeah I know.


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's kept pretty relaxed in here rather than heavy back and forth usually


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Sandwiches just sitting there for who knows how long


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
how is that bait? he's not wrong, rights are basically concessions to the people to keep them from revolting


[28-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I didn't think "live and let live" was that controversial


[28-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Rights are also a way to reduce power distance


[28-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And increase responsibility one has over their own life. Reduce dependency.


[28-Jun-20 06:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
In the best case, of course


[28-Jun-20 06:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The next four to ten years are looking like they'll be very interesting times.


[28-Jun-20 06:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I've been trying to learn how to do things like grow some of my own food and purify water. Luckily, I live next to a stream.


[28-Jun-20 06:39 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think the wealthy lobby corporate class will allow America to go the way of Venezuela or any similar such, thankfully.


[28-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Pontology#1010
America is just about the richest country per capita

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[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Pontology#1010
And thankfully, the left in America is too obsessed with cancelling syrup to go full socialist


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't like Venezuela, but that's not because of how it is for others.


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] wren#0114
>iceland green while greenland ice


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] wren#0114
accurate


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just want money for themselves, via any means necessary. They'd happily go into the pink of that graph if they could keep their own money.


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, uh, looking at the data for 2018 (the year that map is from), USA ranks 19th


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Fortunately, them keeping their money means anti-socialism


[28-Jun-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just that the dark green countries are also very tiny


[28-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Socialism isn't why those pink countries are pink.


[28-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Colonialism is the majority of it.


[28-Jun-20 06:43 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I would be shocked to discover that the vast majority of africa is some bastion of socialism - rather, their economic state is more or less a result of a bunch of Europeans sitting around and playing with a pen on a map


[28-Jun-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notice how most of Europe, and a lot of random countries, are yellow in the latter thing


[28-Jun-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
but the same places in Europe are green in the former graph, while the rest are generally not.


[28-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also the green in the latter graph in South America and Africa


[28-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. There's a reason so many French entrepreneurs come to America.


[28-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
doesn't make a difference in terms of the former graph.


[28-Jun-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Japan is green in the former graph, like Europe, but yellow in the latter.


[28-Jun-20 06:46 AM] Pontology#1010
There's a pretty strong correlation. Orange = bad.


[28-Jun-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We can quite clearly see that something is going on besides economic freedom affecting GDP per capita


[28-Jun-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
some force is keeping places in Africa, South America, and non-Japan Asia down in GDP per capita regardless of economic freedom


[28-Jun-20 06:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Average IQ.

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[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
An interesting graph; which factor do you think is influencing the other?


[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
And no, this is not some white supremacist conspiracy thing. Vox reports the same thing. They just don't think it's genetic:
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/6/15/15797120/race-black-white-iq-response-critics

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There’s still no good reason to believe black-white IQ differences ...
Our response to criticisms.
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[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
But the data is there.


[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
How in the heck is AUSTRALIA one of the most economically free countries in the world?


[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trick question. There's a third factor influencing them both


[28-Jun-20 06:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Pontology Scary things start happening once you correlate that world IQ map with other stuff.


[28-Jun-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Things like access to healthcare and nutrition, clean drinking water, education, and so on


[28-Jun-20 06:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
As for what factors influence IQ, going on an evolutionary time scale, I think one of the best variables to look at is intermittent periods of zero food availability


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Healthcare, nutrition, clean drinking water and so forth is more of a RESULT of high average IQ than a CAUSE of it.


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
High Average IQ creates an environment.


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sorry, what?


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This has a cyclical effect


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
the correlation isn't cause they are black or white it's cause they are poor, black people tend to be more poor than whites and here in the US schools are funded through property taxes so children of poor families go to poor schools


[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
@Tumultuous It's a pretty strong explanatory factor for a lot of things.

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[28-Jun-20 06:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Money is not a cause. It is an effect


[28-Jun-20 06:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If anything is cyclical, it's the economy


[28-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Complete destitution and poverty has been the norm for almost everyone for most of human history, especially if you include pre-recorded history


[28-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The strange exception is how some cultures and civilizations were able to raise the average living standards.


[28-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hold up, "per capita" mean or average


[28-Jun-20 06:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Ditto for levels of violence


[28-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Honahue#0656
the early cultures that did that used a lot of slave Rome notably


[28-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because people like Bezos or Gates or any of the dozens of _billionaires_ through stats way the fuck off


[28-Jun-20 06:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Pontology No it isn't.


[28-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Correlation is not causation


[28-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It is not the case that money causes intelligence


[28-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If there are five men in a room and one of them eats 100 eggs a day and the other eat 4 tops, that is not a good reflection on the egg consumption trends of that populate


[28-Jun-20 06:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Or that more money causes less crime


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm saying that different IQ averages are a strong explanatory factor behind why, for example, Ashkenazi Jews account for 30% of billionaires and 30% of Nobel Laureates despite being 0.2% of the global population. They have an average IQ of ~115, the smartest ethnic group.


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also holy fucking shit are you really doing this


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh boy


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

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Whether Ashkenazi Jews have higher average intelligence than other ethnic groups, and if so, why, has been an occasional subject of scientific controversy. Debates around how IQ is measured and explained persist, especially when related to supposed ethnic or genetic explanatio...


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
IQ testing actually has a huge history of being extremely biased against black people and other cultures and a massive amount of racism involved in that as well that's made it worse. It's gotten better in recent years but culture and upbringing really get in the way of this. Especially poor areas like Africa


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Honahue#0656
time to start measuring skulls


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you just going to ignore hundreds of years of economic inequality


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
There's a whole wikipedia article just on Jewish genius.


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At this point, it doesn't matter if you're serious or not


[28-Jun-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
The ashkenazi ethnicity, specifically.


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That 115 average number is not statistically valid. That was taken by averaging the scored of a select group of students in an upper class private school of an upper class area of the UK


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the effect that personal economics has on access to education and educational enviornment


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's stacking the deck to a silly level


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/baddies-are-we-the-baddies-gif-13282081

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are we the baddies?
https://media.tenor.co/images/a1bad30e164f3990e0503277100fe901/tenor.png


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And thus IQ statistics?


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Pontology#1010
@Raptorshy No, IQ testing is biased against white people because east-asians do much better on average


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Pontology#1010
/sarcasm


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you really that fucking retarded


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Honahue#0656
if Jews on average tend to be smarter maybe it has more to do with the Jewish tradition of critically reading the Torah and not cause they are genetically gifted


[28-Jun-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or just disingenuous?


[28-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
~~@Pontology Please. That's only math~~


[28-Jun-20 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, it doesn't matter if he's trolling or serious, the response is the same: that's ridiculous


[28-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
But yeah, It's really actually a huge issue still


[28-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Pontology#1010
IQ is over 50% heritable and scientists have explicitly found 30% of the genes responsible for the heritable component of IQ. It's largely genetic. 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104

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[28-Jun-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
have you considered that it isn't nature, but nurture?


[28-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Guys if I give one kid a book and give the other jack shit, the first one turns out to learn more things; please explain?!"


[28-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Pontology#1010
It's both. Scientists have identified a lot of the IQ genes ^


[28-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And when you get to balancing the question of how much is nature vs nurture, you have to understand how fuzzy some of the definitions can be.


[28-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
For example. in the West, we have plentiful food and good health care and access to educational materials.


[28-Jun-20 06:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That is a result of high IQ populations working for generations, which generally makes the later generations' lives better


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Hey, out of curiosity, did you by chance recently read an article in the Atlantic, and decided to hop into the politics channel to see what we're about?


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's really only useful for comparing to similar populations


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Is this environment nature, because it was brought about by high IQ people, or is it nurture, because it is the environment that people are growing up in?


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, we're gonna look at the the ratio of certain cranial sections


[28-Jun-20 06:58 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a complicated mix with feedback loops


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Modern day frenology itt


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You can get varying estimates of how much is nature vs nurture depending on how much of the environment that people have made is nature or nurture


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
waiting for "culture is downstream from biology" to be said soon


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Pontology#1010
>mainstream genetics is phrenology
No


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thank god the civil rights movement ended racism eh


[28-Jun-20 06:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Tabula Rasa is a false god


[28-Jun-20 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
outstanding work here


[28-Jun-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MLK made a speech and suddenly everyone just wasn't racist anymore


[28-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every scientist, pastor, businessman, politician, they all just stopped being racist and letting their racism influence their work


[28-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thank god


[28-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I may have heard about an article from the Atlantic, but I can't recall what it was about right now


[28-Jun-20 07:01 AM] Pontology#1010
If you think this research identifying the genes behind the heritable component of IQ is a massive global conspiracy by racists, you're just as kooky as other conspiracy theorists


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Pontology#1010
It's peer-reviewed mainstream science


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Iunno. I don't think it's a global conspiracy. I just think IQ tests are very much imperfect and there's way more factors that go into populations and IQ


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, we know that one of the guys who figured out how DNA worked was un-personned and had to sell his nobel prize because he said something about genetic differences between races


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Pontology#1010
And my personal hope for it is using CRISPR technology to insert those genes into sperm and eggs to make smarter babies


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's not that the science is factually incorrect, it's that people are really upset when hearing it


[28-Jun-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you think 2020 is really the time where racism is over and people can start talking about genetics outside the context of racism, then you're the kooky one


[28-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think there will always be people who get upset at things in a way that will hold everything back.


[28-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Like industrialization


[28-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Or the Enlightenment period and the expansion of science, evolution, astronomy, mathematics and the like


[28-Jun-20 07:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Heliocentrism vs Geocentrism


[28-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If people group are, on average, dissimilar from each other, then we would need to adjust our current strategies for helping them


[28-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it was totally worth all those kids dying mangled up in machinery, hundreds of thousands dead from black lung, millions living in abject poverty as a greedy few cemented their dynasties


[28-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, it was worth it for where we arrived at today


[28-Jun-20 07:04 AM] Pontology#1010
honestly


[28-Jun-20 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God forbid society wait some years to care about people before racing forth and running over those in their way


[28-Jun-20 07:05 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Right now, we're just on track for one of the worst mass deaths from starvation in the 3rd world the next time the 1st world undergoes an economic crisis and can no longer afford to dump billions and billions of dollars of aid over them.


[28-Jun-20 07:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd rather not have internet if it meant people weren't begging for money in the streets or dying from preventable diseases


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I, for one, do not want to see billions of people starving to death because of bad international policy


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You seem to be assuming that perfect redistribution of generated wealth is possible


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't believe it's the international policy that explains why we'd be short a couple *billion* in foreign aid


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"progress" is such a quaint thing that means very different things for different people


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm saying that it is not possible to even have all populations in the world operating in the same style of civilization


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's small potatoes


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm one of those weird people who sat down and talked with homeless people begging for change. I would sit next to them and just talk with them, listen to them, treat them as human beings and get to know them.


[28-Jun-20 07:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Okay, then more than billions.


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The point is that it's a lot of money


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to them, yes


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
A lot of them are just crazy, schizophrenics who refuse to take their meds


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The majority of homeless people are mentally ill


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Paid for because the West has been so phenomenally successful and has produced the best golden age of wealth and prosperity humanity has ever seen in human history


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
It's an unsolvable problem without confining people against their will


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
To us, too.


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The fact that mentally ill people are left to die in the streets is a problem


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm sure most of us will never have a billions dollars of personal assets


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Many die in the streets because they don't want to live in a house


[28-Jun-20 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
For *us,* maybe. By some definition of "us"


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Schizophrenia is like 50% of homeless


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the truth is, this is no golden age at all


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"us" meaning the average person in the west. Not the billionares.


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are drugs and therapies that treat schizophrenia


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Therefore, a billion dollars will seem like a lot of money


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which they can't pay for


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and if they refuse to take the meds?


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
average person in the west is *worse* off relatively speaking compared to the last couple generations


[28-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So I guess they should just die


[28-Jun-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You would have to cherrypick pretty hard to find a statistic that says otherwise


[28-Jun-20 07:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
In the last 50 or so years, yes, @WingbeatPony , there has been a serious decline. The decline may continue until there is no longer enough surplus wealth to keep sending it across the planet and get nothing back in return except for more and more hungry mouths to feed, clothe, and medicate.


[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right, so I reject the notion of a golden age


[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty constant


[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
constant is bad


[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Synfag#9241

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[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Better than falling :shrug:


[28-Jun-20 07:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Mass enslavement of everyone in the world to redistribute all their assets and force their labour to what you personally think is best is not a workable solution. Over a hundred million people have died in that experiment so far.


[28-Jun-20 07:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Golden Age is still true. Compare this to most of history, where people were barely surviving at a subsistence level


[28-Jun-20 07:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Sounds pretty based, I support killing as many people as possible.


[28-Jun-20 07:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Golden age relative to the 50's and 60's, no. Things have gotten worse since then


[28-Jun-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes, there are more kings now. We just found other words to describe them


[28-Jun-20 07:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Pontology I'mma assume that was a joke here


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
:laughfilly:


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's hard to tell


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I've met plenty of people who don't


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It may be the case that the people who are not capable of meaningfully contributing value in a modern complex economy have no place there. There is no clear solution for this. Back when it was a tiny percentage of people, then they could survive basically as charity cases from their family members.


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We've had people on site... Adan Druego, who were _very_ genuine about their desire to genocide people


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In very polite and humane ways


[28-Jun-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Where are you meeting all these prospective school shooters? I've only ever met one.


[28-Jun-20 07:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I've been an admin on 2 boorus, things come up


[28-Jun-20 07:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Once you have an ever-growing class of dependents, with an ever-shrinking class of producers, you have a recipie for terrible times ahead. once the system of welfare payments collapses, as it must, they will revolt and destroy everything they can


[28-Jun-20 07:13 AM] Pontology#1010
makes sense


[28-Jun-20 07:13 AM] jlun2#8758
im just waiting for 🤖


[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are mods that don't go to cons because they've been doxxed and people have made credible death threats against them

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[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I remember being in a zombie horde shooter game a couple years ago. The custom map was Canterlot High. Many people started talking about wanting to shoot up a school


[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As well as a whole two people that've promised to kill _themselves_ in front of them


[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I once met someone who thought the human race needed to be completely wiped out to save the animals, and that human life was not worth anything, even their own. They were relatively sane but very very sure of this


[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
They seemed like they were really insecure and wanted to be "edgy" just out of unthinking hatred


[28-Jun-20 07:14 AM] Pontology#1010
I guess being a mod is like having a sieve for mentally ill people


[28-Jun-20 07:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"relatively" being a key word there, I assume, @Raptorshy


[28-Jun-20 07:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh yeah, you meet so many interesting people


[28-Jun-20 07:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Considering the context, yes. They weren't batshit aside from that.


[28-Jun-20 07:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The Human Extinction movement, perhaps? Is that the group they were a part of?


[28-Jun-20 07:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Probably


[28-Jun-20 07:16 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That group isn't about Human Extinction in general, by the way. They talk about it openly. The founders have spoken about how what they REALLY hate, who they're REALLY targeting and trying to convince to extinguish themselves on the world stage is a select demographic of human being.


[28-Jun-20 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being a mod means everything that happens on a site is personally your fault _and_ specifically done to antagonize one person/group/ideology out of spite or ideological reasons


[28-Jun-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
:yes:


[28-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every ban is persecution, ever deletion is a cover up, every policy change is ordained by the jewluminati


[28-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What's going on there, Pontology?


[28-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Is that one of those "expanded emoji powers"?


[28-Jun-20 07:17 AM] Pontology#1010
I was gifted nitro in the /mlp/ secret santa


[28-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Neat. What does nitro give you?


[28-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
meme icons


[28-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Pontology#1010
^ The ability to use emotes from any of your servers in any other one


[28-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can post meme icons from different servers wherever


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I thought it had something to do with games as well.


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Discord's gaming side died months ago


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Pontology#1010
There might be other benefits. I think I have a larger upload limit


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Pontology#1010
But I don't pay attention to the other benefits much


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Good riddance. Frankly, I'm kind of hoping for it's other side to die as well.


[28-Jun-20 07:19 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's mostly the emoji and the larger upload limit


[28-Jun-20 07:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The rest of the perks aren't really worth it aside from some server stuff


[28-Jun-20 07:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(as in server boosting)


[28-Jun-20 07:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The update that added sub-servers to the main server that you could group together was nice, but this generally seems like a less good, much less secure, version of IRC


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Who boosts servers


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:dinodinorevolution:


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I do


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Weeb


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Specifically so we could get more emojis


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If we drop I'll drop extra money


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
:implying:


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What does boosting even do? I think they started allowing you to Search for servers instead of needing a specific invite link, but I haven't tested that out yet


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Pontology#1010
more emote slots


[28-Jun-20 07:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If we drop your pants drop


[28-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Still mad that derpibooru is no longer an image repository


[28-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
More emoji slots
Potentially higher upload limit for the server
Some random stuff like server banners and an animated icon
A pointless thing to increase audio quality on calls


[28-Jun-20 07:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Of all the pony images except those that the artists don't want hosted


[28-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Defeats the whole purpose of what derpibooru is


[28-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nothing about this doesn't suck.


[28-Jun-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
:anondrunk:


[28-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"Derpibooru is nolonger an image repository" What?


[28-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Is this about allowing animated webms?


[28-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
They don't allow cute aryanne images anymore


[28-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
They don't?


[28-Jun-20 07:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Damn


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's a take on us moving to ban new racist content


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That is a travesty


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Then ban zebra domination and black lives matter stuff next?


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Pontology#1010
black lives matter isn't racist


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It very much is


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Pontology#1010
zebradom arguably is


[28-Jun-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's a work in progress, and things are still being fleshed out.


[28-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was also founded by trained marxists


[28-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Pontology#1010
racism isn't a well-defined word and in practice is just a political bludgeon


[28-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
All lives matter was the "let's come together on a common principle" statement, which was rejected with an incredible amount of hostility


[28-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This was years ago, but the racial partisanship was there then


[28-Jun-20 07:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was rejected


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Because it comes off as dismissive to black issues.


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, the fact that "all lives matter" is considered racist is case-in-point of "racism" being meaningless


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For all lives to matter black lives have to matter


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It wasn't even a counter-statement of white lives matter, because that would have just been the same racial bias problem in reverse.


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Overwriting the latter to just push the former is dismissing the reality that to many black lives simply don't matter


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Ooh. Something just got deleted


[28-Jun-20 07:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There were two blue posts in a row for a second


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I posted too soon


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But then one of them got memory-holed


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Pontology#1010
More unarmed white people are shot by police than unarmed black people, by a lot


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I hit the enter button by accident


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
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[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Pontology#1010
it's a bit disproportionate relative to the populations, but the narrative of BLM is horribly skewed


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
This summarizes the idea well, aside from ignoring the cancer one


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
AND, these unarmed white people getting wrongfully killed by police happens high on a PER CAPITA basis, too.


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I used my memory implants to delete a post while I was typing my own


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm that amazing


[28-Jun-20 07:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You didn't see riots when black people kidnapped a white person, tortured them, and livestreamed the whole thing on facebook


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>More unarmed white people are shot by police than unarmed black people, by a lot
I highly doubt this and would love to see the numbers if you have them


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Riot against who?


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I have them. My source is the Washington Post. Let me find it


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A gang of thugs isn't the tax-funded police department


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Especially considering the high rate of black death at the hands of police. I think it was like every 1 in 1000 black males are killed by the police or something crazy


[28-Jun-20 07:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Riot against black people, I guess? Whoever BLM is rioting to express displeasure towards for unfair treatments


[28-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What about the high rate of crime?


[28-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
@Raptorshy almost all of them armed


[28-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
and threatening


[28-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
We need to look at unarmed people for the data on unjustified killings


[28-Jun-20 07:34 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The high rate of crime is a funny situation because they tend to concentrate police in poorer black areas and enforce laws more aggressively. It's a big positive feedback loop


[28-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, "unarmed" doesn't mean "not threatening". Fighting someone to the ground and trying to reach for their gun, like happened to a bar owner early on in the riots, means it's a justified killing


[28-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok so, this page at the Washington Post allows you to filter by things like race and if they were unarmed:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/
Here are the figures for 2019

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[28-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Wow, that's a wall of text. I'm gonna guess that that's a leftist meme


[28-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And I was right


[28-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
more white people are shot by cops but it's because there are more white peope in the US black people are more likely to get shot if they have an encounter with the cops


[28-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's a pretty low number overall. it's honestly probably pretty similar


[28-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But to respond to that meme like it's an argument, the "crimes not reported" stuff is why people like to talk about murder stats


[28-Jun-20 07:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because with killings, there's usually zero question that a crime has been committed


[28-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's really hard to pretend it didn't happen and look the other way


[28-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's also kind of hard to artificially inflate those stats.


[28-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Pontology#1010
BLM operates by anecdotes, and I heard a great truism:
"The plural of anecdote is not data"


[28-Jun-20 07:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Unfortunately, @Pontology , the human brain thinks in a story structure. And Anecdotes make the average person "see" the data easier. It adds that emotional component that makes things resonate


[28-Jun-20 07:39 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's also worth re-iterating that BLM was started by trained Marxists. Emotional manipulation to get unthinking, violent mobs of people to try to tear down societies is kind of their m.o.


[28-Jun-20 07:40 AM] Pontology#1010
The fact they're now tearing down George Washington and Thomas Jefferson still makes my blood boil.


[28-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Not even Abraham Lincoln is safe; there are movements aspiring to also tear down statues of him


[28-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was predicted years ago when the first confederate statues were being torn down, right?


[28-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and everyone said it was a slippery slope fallacy


[28-Jun-20 07:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are behavioural patterns in their actions that can tell us what they hate, and what they're trying to destroy


[28-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not enough people listened to Yuri Bezmenov.


[28-Jun-20 07:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I tried getting a few people to watch an old interview with him ten years ago


[28-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Honahue#0656
>trained Marxist
highly doubt theres no meaningfull Marxist tendency in the US


[28-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Pontology#1010
There is, in academia


[28-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Pontology#1010
18% of social scientists self-identify as marxists


[28-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/the_prevalence_1.html

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As the Iron Curtain crumbled, people often joked, “Marxism is dead everywhere – except American universities.”  The stereotype of the Marxist professor runs deep.  But is this stereotype grounded in statistical fact?  Here are the results from a 2006 nationally representative ...
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[28-Jun-20 07:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What they are trying to tear down and destroy are not reminders of "confederate slave ownership", since they're attacking non-slave owners and people who have "freed the slaves" as major parts of their claim to fame


[28-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"Highly doubt there's no" "Doubt there's no" Double negative. So you're saying that you think there IS meaningfull Marxist tendency?


[28-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
In the US?


[28-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Pontology#1010
like Grant, who had a slave briefly and then freed him and was a union hero


[28-Jun-20 07:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And the first slave owner in the US? A black man


[28-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Pontology#1010
some black people owned slaves but that's kind of peripheral


[28-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
no, I mean Highly Doubt, there is no meaningul Marxist tendency in the US


[28-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Most of the big problems in North American culture seems to be based on parasitic elites trying to import cheap foreign labour


[28-Jun-20 07:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Slaves were a slightly cheaper alternative to industrializing and building factories.


[28-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue Yes there is. Sociology, gender studies, etc are soaked in neo-marxism via critical theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Marxism

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[28-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Also, irish slaves were considered less valuable than black slaves, so they were given the harder, more dangerous work that was likely to get them maimed or killed


[28-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Honahue#0656
they were less valuable cause they weren't chattel


[28-Jun-20 07:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Hell, it's even starting to sink into the STEM fields in bits and pieces


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Explain, @Honahue , if you would


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
My understanding is that a slave is a slave


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
blacks were sold as chattel


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
you owned them and their children forever


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Were the irish on those 7-year slavery things?


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
the Irish were indentured servents


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah


[28-Jun-20 07:47 AM] Honahue#0656
you had them for 7 years


[28-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Pontology#1010
big difference between black slavery and slavery of other races was that only black slavery was permanent


[28-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Pontology#1010
it was a racist institution


[28-Jun-20 07:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because of that black man, who didn't want to release his indentured servitude minion at the end of their term


[28-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Anthony Johnson


[28-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Being an indentured servant was a worse position if you were next to a slave


[28-Jun-20 07:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The person ordering you around had few qualms about long-term injury


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
I can believe that. Whole thing wasn't good :dunno:


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
worse in some ways, better in others


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Since they only had you for 7 years, they could work you to death in those 7 years and not need to worry about your survival or lifetime health beyond that


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
at least it wasn't permanent, but you had a higher risk of dying in the short-term


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
It depends on other things


[28-Jun-20 07:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Thank god for Western Civilization saying no to slavery and indentured servitude.


[28-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
iirc indentured servitude was voluntary though, or quasi-voluntary, like a way to pay off debts


[28-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
I guess if you were in debt you didn't have much of a choice than to sell yourself into slavery


[28-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
for 7 years


[28-Jun-20 07:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think things would generally have been better if the importation of indentured servants / slaves had never, ever happened in the first place.


[28-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That should be a pretty non-controversial opinion, I think.


[28-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, I'm laughing because of how non-controversial it is


[28-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
At least, I'd like to see someone's argument if they disagree with it.


[28-Jun-20 07:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's just like that "It's okay to be white" postern


[28-Jun-20 07:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
As long as they see it said, or see it said by a white person, I'm sure there will be SOME people who throw an apoplectic fit about it for reasons they're not able to articulate


[28-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 07:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>iirc indentured servitude was voluntary though, or quasi-voluntary, like a way to pay off debts
It was questionable sometimes and shittier people would sometimes extend the debts, but overall fairly innocuous.


[28-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If the timeline was always 7 years, then I imagine you could get a less-indebted person for cheap. That would also probably translate to a higher quality minion. One who maybe made a bad business investment, but didn't have the equivalent of a lifetime of bad credit card decisions.


[28-Jun-20 07:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If 7 years was just the maximum legal amount of time, and you could go for shorter times, then disregard what I just said


[28-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Honahue#0656
7 is just biblical inertia


[28-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Pontology#1010
^


[28-Jun-20 07:57 AM] Pontology#1010
But the Christians misinterpreted it, according to Judaism is seven sevens', i.e. 49


[28-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, it doesn't seem any more broken of a system than slavery in general. Probably good that there's some sort of hard limit on it in the first place.


[28-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Pontology#1010
In Judaism, every 49 years you need to free your slaves


[28-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Pontology#1010
It's called Jubilee year


[28-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Honahue#0656
every 7 years is a sabatical year and debts are forgive,


[28-Jun-20 07:58 AM] Honahue#0656
that the Jubilee but it's never been done since the Romans destroyed the second temple


[28-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
To go along with that other silly image

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[28-Jun-20 07:59 AM] Pontology#1010
:laugh:


[28-Jun-20 08:00 AM] wren#0114
the absolute quality of political discussion rn

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[28-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Pontology#1010
Discussing how often we need to free our slaves once we establish the third temple is pretty great though


[28-Jun-20 08:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
> pornhub image
I laughed


[28-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Ahh, it's really cleansing, isn't it? Just clears the air and chills things down from an oppressive summer sweltering heat down to a refreshing and wonderful-smelling clarity.


[28-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't usually see too much political shitposting on here


[28-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Synfag#9241
Neo-Marxism is when Marky Marky Marx trimmed his beard a bit


[28-Jun-20 08:02 AM] Synfag#9241
pfft...


[28-Jun-20 08:03 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's not inaccurate


[28-Jun-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 08:06 AM] wren#0114

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[28-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
So, political Trichotomy


[28-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Leslie best polpony prove me wrong

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[28-Jun-20 08:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Libertarianism, Leftism, and Conservatism.


[28-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Libertarianism is the Ascendant male. Main wants are to produce resources on their own with as little interference and restriction from others as possible.


[28-Jun-20 08:07 AM] wren#0114
this is more like #memes-and-shitposts material


[28-Jun-20 08:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[28-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Leftism is the motherhood instinct. Expects resources from others as a matter of course. Either from the state or from the husband, who provides for her. Will also want to redistribute her husband's resources to anyone she sees as her helpless children. The primary goal is equality of outcome, or seeing that everyone gets enough.


[28-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Conservatism is the mature male. The goal is maintaining a stable society and building something for the long term.


[28-Jun-20 08:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People look up recipes for cake or lottery numbers more than they talk about politics, obviously no one cares about politics right?


[28-Jun-20 08:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Oh, that's what that Atlantic article someone mentioned earlier was about


[28-Jun-20 08:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think I have something like it opened up in another tab


[28-Jun-20 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be more blunt


[28-Jun-20 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More people watch porn than political commentary


[28-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I've seen enough hateful smears against the fandom and enough lies from the legacy media to loathe everything they put out on principle, and I've basically never been given reason to rethink my stance


[28-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thus it is obviously silly to say people care about politics.


[28-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This logic makes no sense.


[28-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Pontology#1010
We have a private for-profit media, and their modus operandum is clickbait


[28-Jun-20 08:10 AM] Pontology#1010
and hit-pieces are great clickbait


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Government run media is garbage.


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The mystery is why there are still people that listen to them. Other than talking heads on YT who talk about the new stories and insult their lies, I mean


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Agreed Itsthinking


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No media can be trusted


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Pontology#1010
It's bad no matter what but private is still better


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think I'd rather have a set of explicitly partisan media under some sort of umbrella.


[28-Jun-20 08:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Itsthinking But how many people jack off to political commentary? These are the numbers I want to know.

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[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well I mean


[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Make sure to keep them separate as far as personnel goes, but have some sort of unified publishing platform for them, so that people can all get multiple sides of the discussion


[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wonk" is one letter away from "wank"


[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So you do the math @Raptorshy


[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Does people jacking off to aryanne gassing griffons while schlicking herself count?


[28-Jun-20 08:12 AM] Pontology#1010
because that's a pretty infamous image


[28-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't think I've seen that before, but I really want to see it, all of a sudden


[28-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Pontology#1010
number 1062553


[28-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Seriously, the Griffin civilization was just a half dozen broken down huts? Wasted potential doesn't even begin to describe it


[28-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't post it here due to nsfw


[28-Jun-20 08:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The writer's political biases were disgustingly transparent


[28-Jun-20 08:14 AM] wren#0114
:ponythinking:


[28-Jun-20 08:14 AM] Pontology#1010
And it wasn't specifically griffons, I editorialized that.


[28-Jun-20 08:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Some creatures or ponies dying in the gas chambers as she masturbates


[28-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>So you do the math @Raptorshy 
But...Raptors can't do math.


[28-Jun-20 08:15 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a travesty that derpibooru will no longer host glorious images like this


[28-Jun-20 08:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Eh, this is a bit too nsfw for here


[28-Jun-20 08:16 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:trixdisgust:


[28-Jun-20 08:16 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I have an image of Aryanne pressing a kill button next to a door that's being slammed on. It's a shorthand on imageboards for "I think your post was bad, and I disagree with you"


[28-Jun-20 08:16 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Raptorshy You're just tempting me to add gratuitous censorship to a sfw image and post it here


[28-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Pontology#1010
That's a much-posted meme image

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[28-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's the one


[28-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah I am :>


[28-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Derpibooru no longer hosting future content like this is cultural imperialism and neo-colonialism against the marginalized /mlp/ shitposters


[28-Jun-20 08:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's more discord policy than anything.


[28-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's more the "not also banning anything related to Marxism/Communism" thing that has me seriously concerned.


[28-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Pontology#1010
It's why communist revolutions happen over and over and over, yet the fascist revolution happened only once


[28-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Considering the much higher kill count, and actual proof of significant numbers of people who openly and seriously support that ideology. And that subversion and infiltration in most institutions in our civilization


[28-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Pontology#1010
communism is the wolf in sheep's clothing, while nazism is an obvious wolf


[28-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You ever start to ask yourself why there's all that weird obsession over fascism specifically? I've heard one argument that that's because fascism is one of the only political systems that ever successfully stood up against marxism


[28-Jun-20 08:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't think I really want to live under either system, but if I had to choose one...


[28-Jun-20 08:21 AM] Pontology#1010
I'd choose fascism over communism in a heartbeat, so long as it's the non-genocidal kind


[28-Jun-20 08:21 AM] wren#0114
better dead than red, either red


[28-Jun-20 08:22 AM] Pontology#1010
But I hope I'll never have to choose. Liberty forever.

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[28-Jun-20 08:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think it's time to start thinking about non-utopian situations now.


[28-Jun-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/reminder-the-fbis-police-homicide-count-is-wrong/

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[28-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
from 2014


[28-Jun-20 08:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Paint doesn't let me rotate rectangles, so you get this square paintbrush censorship of an sfw image abomination

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[28-Jun-20 08:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Raptorshy . Haven't looked at male nsfw images, so I'm just ballparking where the censorship marks should be for best effect


[28-Jun-20 08:32 AM] wren#0114
how is this politics?


[28-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because it's based on an exchange from 5 minutes ago in the politics channel


[28-Jun-20 08:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/A2Lnifq.jpg

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[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If the Leftists who "question" him were acting in good faith, then this would be a much bigger mark against him


[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Shapiro needs to be stuffed in a locker


[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I just don't tend to like his speaking style


[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
This was censored on the booru


[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] wren#0114

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[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
I _despise_ this censorship of obvious joke images


[28-Jun-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] wren#0114
kek


[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Pontology I'm pretty sure that this is a new stage in Derpibooru's decline. It's overtly idealogical. Actively supporting one side of the debate and suppressing the other side.


[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] wren#0114

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[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk

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[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1lUWxm1Ss

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Ben Shapiro's Meme Review
Ben Shapiro hosts meme review on PewDiePie's channel

BOIS LET'S GET PEWDS TO 70M!!!!!
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[28-Jun-20 08:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Shapiro did a meme review for Pewdiepie


[28-Jun-20 08:36 AM] wren#0114
at least he doesnt play 🅱️ortnite


[28-Jun-20 08:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Actively supporting racist hate groups while decrying those who are only smeared as racist hate groups. The second group tends to get suspiciously little screen time to actually say what they want, too. Almost like all the media attention is just a co-ordinated hit piece


[28-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't get all this hate against Fortnite, to be honest. I tried it in the first couple months of the multiplayer being out, and it wasn't really for me.


[28-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It just looks like another hate bandwagon


[28-Jun-20 08:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I used to be on the Bieber hate bandwagon, but then he had a meltdown I heard about, and I just stopped caring about him entirely


[28-Jun-20 08:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was really weird seeing so many people on an active and *vicious* hate bandwagon. This was for YEARS.


[28-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I know that in order for a game to be really good, and to have a really good community, it needs to have high barriers to entry.

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[28-Jun-20 08:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Fortunately, you need a very high IQ to understand My Little Pony.


[28-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Maybe this is part of what happened with Fortnight? It became too popular, then the questionably-sapient masses got obsessed with it somehow?


[28-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Then it got associated with the lowest common denominator?


[28-Jun-20 08:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No, just few members united around a common interest


[28-Jun-20 08:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Once the people who want to water the thing down, or who just want to seek popularity start flooding the place, it's hard to stop things from getting really bad


[28-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm thinking of communities of an engineering game. Even if it's fairly popular, it's literally difficult to get in to, so the community is united by a common interest


[28-Jun-20 08:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There's a pair of opposing principals by the names "Many in body, one in mind" and "many in mind, one in body".


[28-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Many in body means you're valuing people's individuality. One in mind means you're united by common principals


[28-Jun-20 08:44 AM] Crow#5457
there's some big dick incel energy emanating from that comic


[28-Jun-20 08:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I can't help but notice you're not disagreeing with it. You're just throwing a buzzword at it.


[28-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
it does tho one of the premices is that women only join something to get male attention


[28-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty incel opinion


[28-Jun-20 08:46 AM] Crow#5457
there's some topics so absurd that they aren't worth addressing politely, only derided and ridiculed


[28-Jun-20 08:47 AM] soundtea#9032
That whole post screams "whaaaaaa my sekrit club"


[28-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Meanwhile, many in mind means you're not united by common principals. There's no overall goal, just the pursuit of power. One in body means you enforce shallow uniformity among people for no reason.


[28-Jun-20 08:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It does not have that premise, Hona. Not in the absolutist terms you're implying.


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Hobbies, or dedicated interest groups that create and build something new for the sake of that interest, tend to be made up almost entirely of men.


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Women do tend to seek social status.


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] soundtea#9032
See, you're showing that incel side again


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Crow#5457
if you can't tell I'm disagreeing with the post, I'm not sure what to tell you


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] soundtea#9032
Listen to yourself


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The women who join and help build up a hobby are atypical


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
More interested in the hobby than in gaining status


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] Honahue#0656
"Females join the vast majoity/total male hobby in an effor to not play the game but to attract attention largely uncontested"


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] soundtea#9032
And now you're showing total sexism


[28-Jun-20 08:48 AM] soundtea#9032
Classy


[28-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's an incel opinion


[28-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Don't tell me you haven't noticed how all the "geek girls" only started coming out of the woodwork AFTER geek interests and hobbies became lucrative, popular, and socially acceptable on a casual basis.


[28-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are large scale trends in how people operate


[28-Jun-20 08:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are tendencies in behaviour where men and women differ


[28-Jun-20 08:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Again, you're failing to argue or prove any point. You're still just unthinkingly throwing buzzwords around


[28-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Honahue#0656
no, you're ignoring the premice put forward by that comic that owmen only do things to seek male attention


[28-Jun-20 08:51 AM] soundtea#9032
To be honest this is more digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole. Do you even listen to what you're saying?


[28-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That is not the premise in that comic


[28-Jun-20 08:51 AM] soundtea#9032
It is one of the premises


[28-Jun-20 08:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The comic traces the lifespan of how a hobby is destroyed


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] soundtea#9032
Another is that its totally the fault of newer people that the old guard goes away


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] soundtea#9032
Yeah, its *got* to be their fault entirely


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
once again, your opinion is not worth addressing, it is a ridiculous premise to say that "girls come in and ruin everything" because there's a few grifters who take advantage of people


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Honahue#0656
it's one of them and in the comics own logic the tipping point


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If I were to point to a part in the comic that acknowledges that women might join the hobby for reasons other than "to get male attention", then will you accept that?


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
the incel opinion is one of the cornerstones of the comic's premise


[28-Jun-20 08:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Why do women not go for math degrees?


[28-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Even when they have the aptitude, why do they not have the interest in anywhere near the same rate as men?


[28-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Do you accept that this discrepency between men and women, even after controlling for aptitude, exists?


[28-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
now you're arguing in bad faith


[28-Jun-20 08:53 AM] Crow#5457
stop it


[28-Jun-20 08:53 AM] soundtea#9032
Just accept you've already dug yourself into a hole


[28-Jun-20 08:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Do you accept that differences in interests and expressed patterns of behaviour can break along gender lines?


[28-Jun-20 08:54 AM] soundtea#9032
You're only further reinforcing that you're like the writer of that comic


[28-Jun-20 08:54 AM] soundtea#9032
That comic also fails to mention that casualization and streamlining can be good at times for accessibility


[28-Jun-20 08:55 AM] soundtea#9032
It's really hard to take that comic seriously whatsover when in its own words the "unrecoverable point" is when a girl joins in


[28-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Crow#5457
the problem with that hypothesis is that there's irrefutable proof that people in general do what you're claiming only females do regardless of gender


[28-Jun-20 08:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
All I'm hearing from you all is "I don't like one small element of that comic, therefore I am disregarding the entire description and argumentation. I am providing zero argumentation of my own to counter this.". The lack of good faith engagement makes it sound like you realize this is correct, and you're just afraid to think about it for some reason


[28-Jun-20 08:56 AM] soundtea#9032
Dude, there are multiple elements of that comic that are fundamentally flawed


[28-Jun-20 08:56 AM] soundtea#9032
We've been pointing them out


[28-Jun-20 08:56 AM] soundtea#9032
The entire comic itself feels like a drawn out whining that your hobby is actually attracting interest


[28-Jun-20 08:56 AM] soundtea#9032
And that it isnt your super secret elite club anymore


[28-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
the fact that part of the comic's premise is that women lack agency means there's nothing else that needs to be said it's a dumb comic


[28-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Crow#5457
you shouldn't have based the entire comic off of a flawed premise if you didn't want people to point it out and disregard it in its entirety


[28-Jun-20 08:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The comic does not claim that "women only do thing to seek male attention". To the extent that it does, it is a reference to the observed phenomenon of women tending to jump on to trends only after they become popular, and not when they are niche hobbies. Women are more people-focused in contrast to men tending to be more thing-focused. It is this central premise that you've been fighting against for reasons I can only guess at.


[28-Jun-20 08:58 AM] soundtea#9032

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[28-Jun-20 08:58 AM] soundtea#9032
It literally says women join thing to seek attention


[28-Jun-20 08:59 AM] soundtea#9032
Read what the hell you post, **please**


[28-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Does it say "the only women who are in the hobby join for this reason"?


[28-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No.


[28-Jun-20 08:59 AM] soundtea#9032
It isnt providing a single shred of anything to the contrary


[28-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's describing waves and surges of demographic groups as the population of the hobby's base grows over time


[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4

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[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"vast majority/totally male hobby"


[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not "definitely exclusively male hobby"


[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Hobbies tend to be built


[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Tumultuous#2853
by guys


[28-Jun-20 09:00 AM] soundtea#9032
You can toss all the words you want. In the end the comic is just a drawn out whine that boils down to "People are taking an interest in a small thing I liked, and that's bad!"


[28-Jun-20 09:01 AM] soundtea#9032
That's it, that's the entire fucking subject of the comic


[28-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No. The problem is that the decline of a thing to the lowest common demonimator destroys the thing


[28-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
and it's only a coincidence that the "lowest common denominator" includes the only mention of females in the entire comic?


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
As a different example, one which expresses the decline, but doesn't necessarily have all the steps laid out as in the comic, look at the Elder Scrolls.


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] soundtea#9032
also "Dudebros and Alphas"


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The games used to have flavour and be about something .Now they're shallow platforms for mods.


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] soundtea#9032
Man, the incel energy really radiates from that line


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, dudebro/alpha is another incel reference, even though it isn't why the premise is so ridiculous


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The very general terms chosen was a hint that the categories were not specific.


[28-Jun-20 09:02 AM] soundtea#9032
I half expect this comic to unironically drop "Chad" and "Stacey"


[28-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but that wasn't driven by people getting interested in the Elder Scrolls it was driven by Bethesda trying to make more sales


[28-Jun-20 09:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
> As a different example, one which expresses the decline, but doesn't necessarily have all the steps laid out as in the comic, look at the Elder Scrolls.
@Tumultuous


[28-Jun-20 09:04 AM] Tumultuous#2853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FxY9x3zcwQ

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[28-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Look at the decline of the chat moderator program here. Again, it's not a thorough view from inside the chat moderator system that clearly exhibits each and every step of the comic,


[28-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Tumultuous#2853
but the comic was an EXAMPLE OF THE DECLINE$


[28-Jun-20 09:05 AM] Tumultuous#2853
As the focused hobby loses it's identity and becomes a genericized place to hang out and socialize


[28-Jun-20 09:06 AM] soundtea#9032
Alright, enough of that nonsense. Not going to get anywhere with this guy


[28-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Or, in the video's example, becomes and overly censorious and dysfunctional system


[28-Jun-20 09:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What do you believe was the best argument made against the basic premise of the comic?


[28-Jun-20 09:06 AM] soundtea#9032
also fun fact: sometimes "casualization" is done for the better. There are design elements that may be "traditional" yet not actually work well


[28-Jun-20 09:06 AM] soundtea#9032
Especially in regards to attracting new people


[28-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because everything I've seen can be boiled down to buzzword slurs


[28-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Watering things down is very seldom a good idea


[28-Jun-20 09:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Very, very seldom


[28-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
>incel
>slur
damn


[28-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Do you want to be called an incel? Do you believe it is a positive, or even neutral word?


[28-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No? It's a bad word to call someone? It's a word that you might call someone regardless of what it's factual basis might be? That's what a slur is


[28-Jun-20 09:08 AM] Honahue#0656
nice loaded question


[28-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Honahue#0656
incel isn't a slur


[28-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
A not-nice word to call someone


[28-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Then substitute "buzzword" in for "buzzword slur"


[28-Jun-20 09:09 AM] wren#0114
I think it's goodnight time for me

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[28-Jun-20 09:09 AM] soundtea#9032
Spongebob references. Always a classic


[28-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue Innuendo Studios does this thing where he weaves together things conservatives say or do to weave a conspiracy theory that conservatives are secretly white supremacists. It's extremely disingenuous and is the equivalent of this comic weaving together how progressives want to replace white people.

Notice the strategy: weave together things progressives say in a dishonest way so as to paint a dishonest picture of what they must actually believe given the presented contradictions:

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[28-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The point is that the objections are essentially meaningless, and only there to distract from the actual point of the comic, and you all appear to be arguing in bad faith because you were triggered by an implication of possible trends in group behaviour


[28-Jun-20 09:10 AM] Yuri#4154
Saying that "incel" is a slur is about as stupid as saying "racist" is a slur


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
> Then substitute "buzzword" in for "buzzword slur"
@Tumultuous


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I have already addressed what you are saying


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And it is, actually.


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] soundtea#9032
what kind of person pings themselves


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
A word said just to shit-talk someone


[28-Jun-20 09:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was faster than copying and pasting


[28-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was a quote, rather than a copy paste. The ping is just one of the weird things Discord does


[28-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Automatic. I didn't type that


[28-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Yuri#4154

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[28-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Yuri#4154
Aight


[28-Jun-20 09:12 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm done


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Tumultuous I'll give you a 2/10 for effort in that image, but good try at least. :raptorshy:


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
That's all I'm doing tonight. Now bed


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There is no contradiction in the image.


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There is no problem in the logic


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:sleep:


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I've seen several communities or groups I've been in fall apart in similar ways


[28-Jun-20 09:13 AM] Raptorshy#6268
(also it was the fake censored one)


[28-Jun-20 09:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
What do you mean by the fake censored one?


[28-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The one you edited and pinged me about


[28-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Oh, that.


[28-Jun-20 09:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yea


[28-Jun-20 09:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Turns out my image editing software isn't very good


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's all good. I do most of my shitpost editing on my phone. Sometimes it's fun working with very limited tools. You start to get very creative with them


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"place a rectangle down and rotate it around an axis" should be simple, but it's just not built in to paint


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Anyways. I gotta bed


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nini


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I found a different program that had layers, but it didn't do object rotation


[28-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Night.


[28-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I switch between gimp and paint.net. I hate them in different ways


[28-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Has anyone used any diagnostic tools before?


[28-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
> So, since the Left doesn't want to live under the rules of the Right, and the Right doesn't want to live under the rules of the left, and they're mostly separated by city and geographic area, does it make a lot of sense to anyone else to consider redrawing state lines?
@Tumultuous The assumption that this starts with is untrue.


[28-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Like, "In order to find out if something is X it should have these rough characteristics"?
If something has enough of the characteristics, then it is an example of X. Some characteristics are more important than others.


[28-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Nebbie ...The Left doesn't mind living under the rules of the Right?


[28-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sort of doesn't, but it often is accepting of it in the end.


[28-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right however does not accept left governance.


[28-Jun-20 09:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm pretty sure there's been a few people who dislike trump getting elected. He's a 90's Democrat, which, to be fair, is far right given the shifting of the overton window


[28-Jun-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://psmag.com/news/many-conservatives-only-trust-government-when-their-party-is-in-power

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Many Conservatives Only Trust Government When Their Party Is in Power
New research finds that liberals' confidence in government is not affected by the party affiliation of the president. That's not true of the right.
https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTYyMDkzMTk2OTM4MDYxNDM3/gettyimages-622153362.jpg


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, the idea that conservatives are the "whatever the law is" side is literally bakkwards.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's actually what liberals do.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm going to point to the last four or so years as my counter argument. It's not really an issue of trusting the government, as what general ruleset to follow.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
General principals.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals tend to go towards processes and laws and courts and systems.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives *don't care* about any of that.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about Trump specifically, note.


[28-Jun-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals don't trust Trump at all.


[28-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they do trust the judicial system, even when he tries to poison it.


[28-Jun-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, with Obama around, conservatives were up in arms about "activist judges" appointed by him, regardless of what he was actually doing.


[28-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty obvious as to why


[28-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives like to rally around figures, both positively and negatively.


[28-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Poison it? How many people are legislating from the bench? Has anyone seen what the democrat party has been doing to people like kavenaugh, or how so many of them want to vote for biden even if they think he is a rapist?


[28-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want basically Hitler in charge, and a second Hitler to shit on in charge of liberals.


[28-Jun-20 09:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think there is a LOT of resistance to living under trump


[28-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration tried to legislate from the bench in the recent gay rights case.


[28-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Who wants the "basically Hitler" in charge again?


[28-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Just to clarify


[28-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't want to put words in your mouth


[28-Jun-20 09:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They argued that the text of the law should be ignored in favor of the ideas that they thought Congress had at the time it was written.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately for them, Gorsuch was told to respect legal text, not bullshit.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Who wants a "basically Hitler" figure in charge?


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler in terms of speaking ability.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was very good at making speeches.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had a carefully crafted image and all.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's how he got the little power he needed to then go and torch all the liberal stuff.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Who are you characterizing as being pro-Hitler.


[28-Jun-20 09:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody.


[28-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are twisting my words.


[28-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Recognizing ability to stir crowds and tendencies of conservatives to respond in kind has nothing to do with a leader's actual positions.


[28-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
> They want basically Hitler in charge, and a second Hitler to shit on in charge of liberals.
@Nebbie 
Who is the "they" that this quote refers to?


[28-Jun-20 09:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives, who want someone who can shout with well-crafted speeches etc.


[28-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they want liberals to hav the same.


[28-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'd prefer to clarify the "who" right now, before we move on to what you mean, and how it might be a very value-neutral statement overall.


[28-Jun-20 09:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is basically the shouty demagogue that's in vogue for them right now.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately for them, liberals do not work the same. Shitting on Biden doesn't really affect most liberals.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And what is your view of what Liberals want to be in charge? on the same level of abstraction.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals don't want a person in charge at all.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's kind of the entire point here.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Communism?


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Utopian Communism, I mean.


[28-Jun-20 09:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does communism hav to do with not having a single leader?


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about the reason liberals don't care who the president is for trusting gov't systems.


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because Communism is "supposed" to be perfectly stateless with no leaders


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's because they don't view the president as truly in control.


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's incorrect logic.


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I drew the connection from "they don't want anybody in charge"


[28-Jun-20 09:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are other systems without leaders or states.


[28-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I don't think liberals don't want states.


[28-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't care about leaders.


[28-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Liberals want systems like courts and legislatures.


[28-Jun-20 09:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just don't care for a single guy shouting to rally everyone.


[28-Jun-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden can be the leader of the Democratic party all he wants, liberals will despise him.


[28-Jun-20 09:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile they will tacitly allow his existence as they work to undermine him.


[28-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is not true in the reverse for conservatives.


[28-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
utopian communism is just the idea that if you set up communes people will see how nice it is and start their own and eventually everything will be communes


[28-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Trump as their party leader, loyalty to him is almost everything about being conservative and how they view America.


[28-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Crass tried it a few were in the US


[28-Jun-20 09:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
See this? Most blue areas are a small number of cities.

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[28-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does that hav to do with this?


[28-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Honahue#0656
red is mostly empty land


[28-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I was placing that up to tie in to my earlier statements


[28-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Didn't mean to press the enter button yet


[28-Jun-20 09:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Liberals are upset when a conservative gets in


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Flat wide red vs. tall thin blue is basically the same thing.


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Conservatives are upset when a liberal gets in


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is currently a "winner takes all" political system


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Lots of (Unnecessary) conflict and stress is happening as a result


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
LIberals would not be upset with a conservative leader who doesn't intervene much in the courts and such.


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Weird @Nebbie everything you're saying is how I've viewed liberals. This creepy talking about "thought leaders" in the party.


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump regularly messes with shit.


[28-Jun-20 09:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The various government system have grown far, far, FAR beyond what they should have.


[28-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This tends to be a conservative opinion, but I have seen people who describe themselves as "classical liberals" or "liberals as in liberty" voice this opinion too


[28-Jun-20 09:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Whereas conservatives don't look up to Trump as a leader (I think he's kind of a moron), but just someone who tends to do the right thing policy-wise.


[28-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
He fires people who don't make decisions he likes, he replaces entire offices in agencies, and he often foregoes proper appointing in favor of acting heads of agencies he can control easier.


[28-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives most definitely look up to Trump as their leader.


[28-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The various government system are doing things they should not, and should be changed. Many changes need to be made, but it's difficult. Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program, after all


[28-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is fairly obvious in all the worship heaped on him, as well as how politicians act towards him.


[28-Jun-20 09:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I see him as buying a few years of time before a probably civil war


[28-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump actively encourages this by punishing those who oppose him very hard politically.


[28-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But, if the Liberal areas get to turn into what we'll call city-states, then they get to have all the big, complex government systems they can afford, while the rest of the country can massively cut back on everything it doesn't like.


[28-Jun-20 09:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will not see liberals talking about how Biden will "save America" very often.


[28-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the rhetoric talks about him as a "lesser evil".


[28-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You get what you want, we get what we want, neither of us are forced to live underthe rules (including the governmental systems) of the other


[28-Jun-20 09:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, you will see plenty of scorn for Biden's actual policies, as well as his person, paired with resignation that he's the lesser evil.


[28-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
With due respect, I don't think you really grasp why Trump is where he is. Again, he was a 90's Democrat. He isn't really a conservative, he's just mildly pro-western civilization. The ONLY notable politician in the entire western world who is.


[28-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most liberals attach more to Bernie, even tho he is not the party leader of Democrats.


[28-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
What makes him "pro-western civilization"?


[28-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it wanting to bomb the families of terrorists?


[28-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Border control, for one.


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not starting new wars, for another


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
So his attempts to kill immigrants?


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he attempted to start new wars...


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was insisting on going to war with Venezuela, and later Iran.


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Starting to "drain the swamp" of entrenched deep state politicians who have been rotting in corruption for untold decades, at the very least


[28-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
His aides had to talk him down both times.


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
But all of his cabinet appointments appear to be for corrupt purposes; rewarding political allies, especially from media outlets favorable to him.


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has had a significant amount of cabinet members outed for corruption.


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
His transportation secretary is literally the wife of his party's most prominent congressman.


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is this draining a swamp?


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Remember the leaks during the last election? How so much of the Democrat party was exposed for being pedophiles and racist? And how that didn't seem to affect their support?


[28-Jun-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who?


[28-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Remember Jeffery Epstein? The man who didn't kill himself?


[28-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Epstein was close personal friends with Trump.


[28-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Nope


[28-Jun-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has on record appeared to praise Epstein's taste in women.


[28-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Trump was at one single party where Epstein was present. Epstein got improperly handsy with a woman. Trump told him to stop doing that, and they never met again after that


[28-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
` “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”`


[28-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/#print

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[28-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, he only was at a party with the guy once, but knew him for 15 years?


[28-Jun-20 09:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
How does that work?


[28-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It works because Epstein is basically at the center of a network of the entire world's rich and powerful, and many celebrities. You can't be rich and powerful without having him in your network. That doesn't mean you have to willingly go to parties with him. There's a difference between "knowing" someone and being friends with them.


[28-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But why are you only associating Democrats with him from that?


[28-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it a swamp when Democrats do it, but not Republicans?


[28-Jun-20 09:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Who said it was, but wasn't?


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I said there was value in the fact that he was essentially an outsider.


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about how Trump is "draining the swamp" and you're claiming that Democrats are corrupt because they're full of pedophiles and racists.


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not really belonging to either party


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are plenty of deep state republicans who are corrupt as all hell.


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's an outsider who brought more corruption in.


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I disagree


[28-Jun-20 09:50 AM] Synfag#9241
I don't see Epstein being barred from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club as a sign that they are buddies


[28-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If he was more corrupt, then they wouldn't have been doing so many underhanded things to smear and sabotage him


[28-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You only get THIS much flak when you're close to the target


[28-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump very much seemed to consider Epstein a buddy.


[28-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Synfag#9241
it's starting to looks like those two are being shipped just because they met at one point


[28-Jun-20 09:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow, what a dick

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[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barring him must've come later due to political issues.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So many years on twitter and never liked a single post smh


[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Trump said he knew the guy 15 years.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you talking about "they met at one point"?


[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're making shit up.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 AM] Pontology#1010
>Tim Pool videos are banned here by Nebbie's decree
Jesus Christ. Sure his videos' headlines are hyperbolic because he knows how to play the youtube click game, but he's not misinformation. Just a political pundit. All of his sources are newsguard-verified, almost all from mainstream outlets, and he has milquetoast center-left opinions that tend to be critical of democrats.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And I walked through how "knowing" someone doesn't mean anything. Networks are a thing. You don't get to choose which other people are in the network


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Tim is banned?!


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Pontology #support is a channel for arguing that.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Fucking TIM POOL?!


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Synfag#9241
didn't you hear
he's Tim Pool
that's enough to not trust him or his sources


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
would you like one screenshot of Tim being utterly wrong, or seven


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That is WILD.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wing, don't bother.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're deliberately changing the topic because they got caught out on a lie.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tim Fool is a hack


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure he's been wrong. Everyone is wrong sometimes.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1275146740811943936

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[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No lie


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes lie.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's own words say he knew Epstein 15 years.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, you have banning power to use if you want. That can be "like" proving your point.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Synfag#9241
Tim *"Fence Saddler"* Pool


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Knowing someone doesn't mean anythying


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, so he jumped to a conclusion over the investigation


[28-Jun-20 09:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Claiming they "met once" to imply they didn't know each other very well is a lie unless Trump's own statement about his own relationships is a lie.


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Like none of you have ever done that


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And with his recent gift of a gun, he can now officially be crowned as a "fence-top korean"


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy who handed Epstein his sweetheart plea deal


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
the one where federal law was violated by not telling the victims involved


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
he went on to be one of Trump's top cabinet guys


[28-Jun-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Alex Acosta.


[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jeffrey-epstein-acosta/trump-defends-cabinet-member-acosta-embroiled-in-epstein-sex-abuse-case-idUSKCN1U41AZ

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Trump defends cabinet member Acosta embroiled in Epstein sex-abuse ...
U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday defended his Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, who is under pressure from Democrats to resign over his handling of a decade-old sex abuse case against financier Jeffrey Epstein, but said he, too, would look into it.
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[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Tim's jumped to conclusions more than once, and I've swapped away from his videos more than once because I found his reasoning to be skipping a few steps and conveniently forgetting some things just so he could go on a moralizing virtue signalling rampage


[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie 
> "they're"
I'm not affiliated with Tumultuous and not following your conversation with him


[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Pontology#1010
I have no idea what it's even about


[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The plea deal Acosta made for Epstein was unprecedented.


[28-Jun-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
In addition to that violation of federal law, it effectively made Epstein unprosecutable.


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Honahue#0656
wasn't just Epstien too


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also created a form of house arrest for Epstein that in no way impaired his regular lifestyle.


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Honahue#0656
it was litearlly anyone that may or maynot be involved


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, Acosta made sure that Epstein's repeated regular violations of such were not punished.


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah.


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But to be banned from what is clearly a community who's rule enforcers are the kinds of people he's spent most of his YT career enthusiastically supporting is honestly a surprise


[28-Jun-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not really that normal to immunize *unknown parties* in advance.


[28-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way in regards to Tim, it's honestly 60% cause of his video titles.


[28-Jun-20 09:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Epstein has dirt on pretty much all of the rich and powerful. He's untouchable as long as he had his little black book


[28-Jun-20 09:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know how any time there's a warning sign, there's a story behind it?


[28-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
All of Tim's videos I've ever seen hav titles that are factually incorrect.


[28-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disinformation like that is not good to hav spread.


[28-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"Antifa Fires Paintballs At Cops As Riots Erupt Across US AGAIN, MN Council Hires Private Security"


[28-Jun-20 09:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The other 40% of it is that people were using Tim's videos as their entire argument, rather than linking the article he was discussing


[28-Jun-20 09:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I haven't watched this video, so I don't know if it's a lie, but it seems simple enhough


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Simple doesn't mean factually accurate


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I mean, he cites stories from the legacy media, and they lie all the time. That's not quite his fault, though.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the fewer layers of opinion you have to sift through, the better


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only in one case was the video title's lie due to the sources he used.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And said source's lie was **incredibly obvious**.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It talked of "armed guards"


[28-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
He's got some pretty serious blinders.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
There was a security person with no weapon of any kind pictured.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, I'd bet "Antifa Fires Paintballs At Cops" is the lie in that title.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Specifically the >Antifa part.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm just saying, people here and Tim seem to be drinking the same brand of kool-aid. I just thought the flavours were similar. Maybe some kind of citrus. Orange tang for time and some kind of Lime Zest for you.


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Synfag#9241
Tim was right about one thing
even if Project Veritas hands out evidence on a silver platter
nothing happens
because since everyone that is not on the Left is automatically a Nazi now
nobody will bother looking at it


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The Antifa part?


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, random rioters fire paintballs


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tim calls them Antifa to get more clikks.


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Synfag What an interesting world to live in.


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Project Veritas is a fraud.


[28-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've never actually uncovered wrongdoing.


[28-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
They make videos and try to splice them together to make people look bad.


[28-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think calling them Antifa is a pretty damn good bet. The gymnastics they go through with who is or isn't antifa is absurd. It's like swordfighting a fart to try to get them to nail things down.


[28-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's nothing to do with the Nazism stuff.


[28-Jun-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Antifa has actual symbols with meaning that they can attach to.


[28-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If those are not present, it's disingenuous to label people antifa.


[28-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way as labeling random people nazis without fascist symbols or chants or such on display.


[28-Jun-20 10:04 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Oh, with all the stuff I've come across, I'm a racist, Nazi, and a dozen other buzzwords. I think individuals should be judged for their actions, which means I'm racist. I think that there is value in maintaining borders, therefore I'm a nazi.


[28-Jun-20 10:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
mods are nazis too :twismug:


[28-Jun-20 10:05 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Words that used to mean something specific are now used to mean anyone who has reasonable opinions. I don't think this kind of reprogramming of the dictionary is good for societal stability


[28-Jun-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you think the borders are for keeping out inferior races, then you are some kind of fascist, but not nazi specifically.


[28-Jun-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would further require particulars like wanting blond whites inside the borders, and going after jews.


[28-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, that mods = nazis thing just goes back to usenet boards. I forget the name of the law, but the basics are "the first person to bring up nazis in an argument loses".


[28-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You are speaking in bad faith, and are trying to get me in some kind of logic trap.


[28-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm not biting.


[28-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Synfag#9241
>  "the first person to bring up nazis in an argument loses".

didn't you know
if you control the platform, that law doesn't apply


[28-Jun-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, I'm putting out some basic definitions.


[28-Jun-20 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a similar fashion, people are antifascist if they say that we should stop fascists.


[28-Jun-20 10:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
So, back to the mods thing. Calling mods nazis could be argued to be good old internet tradition, since it goes way back to before the internet as we know it existed.


[28-Jun-20 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be pretty fair to say a crowd chanting "down with nazis" is antifa.


[28-Jun-20 10:07 AM] Crow#5457
there is not one single thing that he said which is intended to trap you, unless you think defining fascism vs nazism is somehow a trap


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be noted that this means "nazi" is a far stricter thing than "antifa", because "antifa" is the counterpart to "fascist".


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I said I am in favour of borders. Nebbie started adding a bunch of conditions.


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Like races.


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
We were just talking about labeling people.


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Other races are on the other side of the borders.


[28-Jun-20 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Labels are meaningless without some basic definitions.


[28-Jun-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Labels should be applied by definitions consistently.


[28-Jun-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you are not to be called a fascist for wanting borders, random people who riot shouldn't be called antifa.


[28-Jun-20 10:09 AM] Crow#5457
"If you think the borders are for keeping out inferior races" is one of the core tenets of fascism, not once were you accused of saying "inferior races"


[28-Jun-20 10:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Therefore, I am implicitly in favour of keeping out other races. Not inherently because they are other races, but because they are on the other side of the borders. Therefore my "borders" stance can logically be twisted to mean "technically, other races are included in the list of "everyone who isn't already here"" de facto definition of fascism Nebbie gave out


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
that's not what he said, but okay


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If you're going to insist on calling me a fascist for wanting borders, then sure, I'm a fascist.


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
You made a leap that doesn't work on your own logic.


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I specified "inferior".


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Heaven knows that word's being thrown around enough these days


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keeping out other races in and of itself means nothing.


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
this is the third time you've started playing the bad faith victim tonight


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And "inferior" can be twisted to mean "anyone who I do not believe will strengthen my country"


[28-Jun-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing it because of a belief in your own race being superior is where fascism comes into play.


[28-Jun-20 10:11 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It doesn't have to be "i think these people are worse than me". If there are non-evil pathways towards meeting your definition, then that should mean that the word should be purged of negative connotations


[28-Jun-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't apply. It was used on "races", not "people".


[28-Jun-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Individual people being not ideal to take in has nothing to do with viewing whole races as inferior.


[28-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think my civilization is superior, because I live in it. I expect that they think their civilization is superior because they live in it. I recognize that different groups have different preferences in how to live, and these different preferences mean that the "superior" way to live will be different


[28-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is something that can get conflated to mean very unkind things very easily


[28-Jun-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are no non-evil pathways to meeting "keeping out other races for them being perceived as inferior".


[28-Jun-20 10:13 AM] Synfag#9241
I like how there's "People of Color Only" signs now


[28-Jun-20 10:13 AM] Synfag#9241
remember when there was "Whites Only" signs in the past


[28-Jun-20 10:13 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Races are just people groups who have lived in a certain area for a certain amount of time. Usually a number of centuries on the short end, millennia in the long end.


[28-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I remember seeing a sign that said "Muslim LGBT Club meeting Moved to rooftop". They probably could have found a different room.


[28-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Bad optics for them


[28-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie Is Zionism evil?


[28-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Pontology#1010
It's Jewish ethno-nationalism


[28-Jun-20 10:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Reminds me of setting up some balloons for a school event. I had long balloons and round balloons to work with.


[28-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Someone pointed out that one of the  groupings I made looked like a dong with testes next to it.


[28-Jun-20 10:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Luckily, it was before the event started, so I had time to take it down


[28-Jun-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Races are just people groups who have lived in a certain area for a certain amount of time. Usually a number of centuries on the short end, millennia in the long end.
@Tumultuous ...okay, but what's the point of defining this right now?


[28-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Pontology I think nationalism in and of itself is evil, and moreso when it's based on ethnicity...but what does Zionism hav to do with this?


[28-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Because you're insistent on whether one is "inferior". I just don't see things that way.


[28-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is about the perceptions.


[28-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I see things in a way that could come up with that term, but only in the sense that everyone thinks that their group is the best


[28-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you say a given race is inferior in order to justify excluding them, that's racism.


[28-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You can't have a healthy functioning society if you think others are better than you.


[28-Jun-20 10:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I want to work with others on strong footing, standing shoulder to shoulder, not kneeling down to them


[28-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism used in governance as its ideology constitutes fascism.


[28-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Pontology#1010
I just asked because a lot of anti-nationalists suddenly have more nuanced perspectives on Zionism. If you're as anti-Zionist as you are anti-nationalist then you're consistent, I guess.


[28-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hence if racism is used to keep people out of the country's borders, you hav fascism.


[28-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you support that, you're fascist.


[28-Jun-20 10:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I want to exclude them because I like my way of life more than their way of life, and do not want the various disruptions they would bring to my civilization. I expect they view me and my civilization the same way. Borders are how we keep peace and stability.


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your logic is missing something


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
If your ingroup is A, and there are outgroups like B


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course you can't say B > A


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
But A > B is not the reverse.


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not in objective terms, at least


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Pontology#1010
I think Tumultuous is an ethnopluralist.


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Definition, please


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The mathematical reverse is A >= B


[28-Jun-20 10:21 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnopluralism

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Ethnopluralism
Ethnopluralism (or ethno-pluralism), sometimes called ethno-differentialism, is a Nouvelle Droite concept which relies on preserving and mutually respecting separate and bordered ethno-cultural regions. Among the key components are the "right to difference" and a strong suppor...


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Borders preserve diversity


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the *words* of the founding fathers are "all men are created equal"


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is A = B


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Ah, that seems fair.


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Pontology#1010
I for one would hate to see the Japanese become a minority in Japan


[28-Jun-20 10:22 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Pontology


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Japan and the Japanese people are a jewel and they should maintain their "one-race country", as they say in their politics


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If I want to sample some odd stuff that's not from my culture, I want to opportunity to do so. Likely through the internet, since travel has a lot of planning involved.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
To further note, this is ignoring the actual overall state of those within a race, and only looking at the circumstances of one's creation.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
All men are *created* equal.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
By the same token, I want a stable and consistent "home culture" to return to


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism says that not all men are created equal, that some are inferior at birth.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think that all men are *morally equal*. That means that for each act they do, they should get similar accolades and punishments.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that this is based on their race, *i.e.* who they're parents are.


[28-Jun-20 10:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Some are shorter and taller, for example.


[28-Jun-20 10:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I believe the Dutch are the tallest race on the planet on average


[28-Jun-20 10:24 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/27/warning-sign-major-proportions-number-siberian-forest-fires-increase-fivefold-week?cd-origin=rss

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'Warning Sign of Major Proportions': Number of Siberian Forest Fire...
"The Arctic is figuratively and literally on fire."
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/xber101-623_2020_144535.jpg


[28-Jun-20 10:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But the tallest individual so far is chinese. He's on a baseball team as far as I know


[28-Jun-20 10:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody is inferior because of their race. Japan should still stay Japanese, limiting non-Japanese in their country to a tiny minority.


[28-Jun-20 10:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Japan can want to do this without thinking they're racially superior.


[28-Jun-20 10:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are too many variables to calculate to say "superior" or "inferior".


[28-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And even if you do have someone who says "my group is the best", you'll find another person who says "no, my group is the best". This is usually when they compete to build cultural works and find a rivalry.


[28-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Macarou#9574
https://qz.com/1551496/who-are-the-indigenous-ainu-people-of-japan/

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Who are the indigenous Ainu people of Japan?
The Japanese government will for the first time formally recognize the Ainu people of Hokkaido as an indigenous people of the country.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/AP_080704039967-e1550462465584.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[28-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Macarou#9574
Don't forget these poor people though


[28-Jun-20 10:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim aren't half of those fires are manmade? :smugcaddy:


[28-Jun-20 10:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't think I would be able to handle Japan's population density, or extremely reserved culture. I think these are negative traits. Does this mean I think the Japanese are inferior? It means I don't want my living area to be flooded with japanese people.


[28-Jun-20 10:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Different races/ethnicities are superior in different ways depending on how you measure. Africans are superior at not getting sunburned, the Dutch would be superior at basketball by virtue of being the tallest ethnicity :shrug:


[28-Jun-20 10:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
(Canadians invented basketball. Not sure how to work this in to the conversation.)


[28-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
> I don't think I would be able to handle Japan's population density, or extremely reserved culture. I think these are negative traits. Does this mean I think the Japanese are inferior? It means I don't want my living area to be flooded with japanese people.
@Tumultuous There's a problem with this logic, tho. Someone being of Japanese descent (which is what racism would care about) has nothing to do with them having Japanese culture (which is what you're talking about).


[28-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There's also genetic illnesses. Sickle cell anemia in Africans, and... I wanna say Parkinson's in white people.


[28-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racists consider the Japanese inferior from the circumstances of their birth, not their culture.


[28-Jun-20 10:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two can be conflated on purpose for their purposes, often, of course.


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Behaviour influences culture. Hormone levels influence behaviour. Hormone levels are influenced by genetics.


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are links


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Honahue#0656
GOD DAMN


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Honahue#0656
I called it


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Synfag#9241
called what?


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Honahue#0656
culture is downstream from biology


[28-Jun-20 10:29 AM] Honahue#0656
I knew it was coming


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Behaviour influences culture. Hormone levels influence behaviour. Hormone levels are influenced by genetics.
@Tumultuous ...what.


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Honahue#0656
> waiting for "culture is downstream from biology" to be said soon


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't understand your confusion, Nebbie


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
There has never been anything showing that particular cultures are caused by hormone levels from genes, to my knowledge.


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Pontology#1010
He's referring to something like how east-asians have the lowest levels of testosterone and blacks have the highest, on average


[28-Jun-20 10:30 AM] Pontology#1010
which affects things like violent crime rate


[28-Jun-20 10:31 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that people hav slightly higher testosterone and therefore become criminals is utterly silly.


[28-Jun-20 10:31 AM] Honahue#0656
almost 4 hours ago I knew this was going to happen


[28-Jun-20 10:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That sounds like a silly idea to you because it *is* a silly idea


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Synfag#9241
last time I remember, "Toxic Masculinity" is echoed everywhere


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what "toxic masculinity" is.


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Toxic masculinity" is like, Applejack.


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It is not slight levels in the average that do the thing. It's the much higher levels in the extremes.


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Synfag#9241
raging hormones


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Synfag#9241
testosterone


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Extremes aren't averages.


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Yuri#4154
Why is it that every time someone complains about toxic masculinity, they never know what that is


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you are talking crime rates by race, you are talking averages, not extremes.


[28-Jun-20 10:32 AM] Honahue#0656
raging testosterone is for people on super human doses


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Violent crime tends to be done by men from the ages of around 14 to 26. After this, the rate of involvement in violent crime drops off a cliff


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Honahue#0656
ie roiding


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They probably confuse it with "testosterone poisoning".


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You know what this also correlates to? Testosterone.


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Violent behavior is only one possible result of having high testosterone.


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And the example of roiding that Hona brought up proves that this is a causal connection, not just a correlation


[28-Jun-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can also lead to more energetic behavior in general, and more competitive behavior.


[28-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The differences in crime rates here cannot really be explained by hormones.


[28-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Yes. And testosterone is also causal of Fairness


[28-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Honahue#0656
roiding is superhuman levels of testosterone no one has that level from their own source


[28-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would need something to prevent other forms of testosterone-caused behavior.


[28-Jun-20 10:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
In a study where people were dosed with either testosterone, estrogen, or neither, and whether they were told what they were dosed with, or lied with what they were dosed with


[28-Jun-20 10:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, do you know the origins behind the concept of saying a pool is closed when blakks come to swim?


[28-Jun-20 10:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
We're not looking at an average individual's simple hormone level. There are too many factors in play with the individual. Looking at large group averages helps average out those variables


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Culture isn't downstream from biology, but biology is a tributary to it


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Synfag#9241
I'm confident that this generation won't be as violent
since average testosterone levels are now an all time low

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[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I have no idea where the "black people can't swim" idea comes from. I've heard a handful of anecdotes that support the idea that they tend not to swim for whatever reason, but haven't been able to look into it ti figure out what's happening


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
bruh


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Even personality is partially genetic:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5068715/

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Heritability estimates of the Big Five personality traits based on ...
According to twin studies, the Big Five personality traits have substantial heritable components explaining 40–60% of the variance, but identification of associated genetic variants has remained elusive. Consequently, knowledge regarding ...
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[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The problem is higher estrogen levels


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Looking at prison inmates for violent crime


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are different levels of violence


[28-Jun-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pools were created in communities by rich whites, especially in the south and in suburbs.


[28-Jun-20 10:37 AM] Pontology#1010
So a particular ethnic group can have certain personality predispositions


[28-Jun-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Suburbs were planned to be racially white.


[28-Jun-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus a community pool was the ultimate achievement of whites in segregated areas to flaunt their wealth.


[28-Jun-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
For a blakk to enter one was seen as a huge social breach.


[28-Jun-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
While eventually, blakk people were allowed to use pools, as laws and society changed, there is inertia when it comes to where families spend their time.


[28-Jun-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who cannot recreate normally and are turned away by peers may turn to crime as a result, especially if they're poor and need to get by..


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Are you saying that it is the case that the rates of being able to swim are the same between whites and "blakks" nowadars?


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, for similar reasons, blakks rarely go to tourist locations in the wilderness.


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It costs a lot of money to go to Yosemite etc.


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Why do you spell "blakks" like that, by the way?


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
c is redundant, ck is an abomination in the language.


[28-Jun-20 10:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He spells all words with ck like this


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no, racism in pool ownership is not solved.


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Then why the double k?


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
why not call them "blaks"


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Oh, this seems like a silly diversion


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doubling letters is useful in English phonetics.


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raping and rapping are different things.


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
One of those words means a violent theft


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Dictionaries are fun


[28-Jun-20 10:40 AM] Pontology#1010
People prefer to be with those who are like them. This is a demographic map of Chicago. Before you say "redlining", I want to draw your attention to how hispanics—almost all of whom came here long after redlining—also self-segregate.

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[28-Jun-20 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The word "rape" originally meant kidnapping.


[28-Jun-20 10:41 AM] Synfag#9241
all this time I thought the *"kk"* was a typo


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
An eye for detail, and the curiosity to ask questions about it. My special talent.


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's been useful more than once, and "almost" useful a few more times.


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does geographic segregation hav to do with allowing people in pools?


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is a different subject.


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Pontology#1010
It's on the topic of nation-states keeping out people of other ethnicities


[28-Jun-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communities "self-segregating" should not mean disallowing people of different races from using pools.


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is just to say that general self-sorting doesn't have to involve deliberate, pre-planned intent


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nation-states are inherently not like self-segregation.


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Yes they are


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Think of before mass transportation was invented


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A nation-state has a defined leadership and codified rules that extend only to its edges.


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, and is defined around being the same ethnicity


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Community self-segregation in a city doesn't work this way.


[28-Jun-20 10:43 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Major trade cities usually had distinctly different sections where different ethnicities would live


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The areas hav no official leadership and rules.


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] ononim#8141
What the fucj hapoened here tonight


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. All it shows is that a multi-racial society is less than ideal. It's like mixing oil and water.


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Pontology#1010
People self-segregate


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Back when I was a kid, cities with different zones like this were said to have "character". Heck, these were often old enough to have notably differen architecture in them


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It made for really interesting tourism photos.


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why does people "naturally" doing something make it ideal?


[28-Jun-20 10:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@ononim people who are mad at derpi nazi ban suddenly came here and started to shitpost and argue


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
People "naturally" turn to conspiracy theories.


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make it good.


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I didn't say "natural" was the same as ideal.


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pontology is saying that it's less than ideal.


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Good for him


[28-Jun-20 10:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
He's his own man


[28-Jun-20 10:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That said, old trade cities generally seemed to function more like a few smaller cities squashed into one


[28-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not a huge amount of crossover


[28-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Again, good borders make for good neighbors


[28-Jun-20 10:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
They even had different laws for the different parts of each city, depending on which group populated it


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why Russia and Poland are so "friendly"?


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That kind of thing didn't usually end well for smaller groups.


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Honahue#0656
damn that is an amazingly wrong sentence


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews and Arabs got absolutely murdered in Spain.


[28-Jun-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the very literal sense.


[28-Jun-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because once there were sizable communities, the majority communities would push out smaller groups by force.


[28-Jun-20 10:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Poland just seems to be the continent's whipping boy for some reason. I'm not sure what's going on in there.


[28-Jun-20 10:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Poland has a political party founded based on extreme Christian conservatism in charge.


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Which community was the "sizable community" in your example?


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The smaller group or the majority group?


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of its first official acts was to change the rules so that the judiciary couldn't stop it from pulling shit.


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Macarou#9574
Who likes to occasionally brag about his illiberal state


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Macarou#9574
Calling it as such


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"sizable" refers to all the communities, not just the majority.


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] ononim#8141
There were a lot of pogroms of "latins" in Constantinople


[28-Jun-20 10:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point is that as towns grew, tensions grew.


[28-Jun-20 10:51 AM] ononim#8141
Segregated trade cities weren't racial paradise


[28-Jun-20 10:52 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I can see a smaller group, when it is small, and strictly limited to the ones of the smaller group that are more like the majority group than their own smaller group are willing to integrate, being accepted. But, once that smaller group gets bigger, and they no longer want to integrate as much as the previous generation did, and their basic inclinations of behaviour are more like the smaller groups, then I can see reason for friction happening.


[28-Jun-20 10:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You've got to remember: fundamentally, our brains and instincts are still wired for small tribes of around 100 people scavenging for food on the savanah and making war with other tribes. Everything else we know about civilization has to be "patched" onto our base instincts.


[28-Jun-20 10:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Some experiments have been less successful than others.


[28-Jun-20 10:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But we've figured a few practices that seem to work pretty well


[28-Jun-20 10:55 AM] Pontology#1010
It's why even communism is tribal. They try to make the tribe the "proletariat"


[28-Jun-20 10:55 AM] Pontology#1010
That's communism's tribal us-vs-them


[28-Jun-20 10:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And the origin of "racist". It means that you're considering dividing lines other than whether you're a good communist.


[28-Jun-20 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a false dichotomy.


[28-Jun-20 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the term is far older than communism.


[28-Jun-20 10:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's not what I've seen


[28-Jun-20 10:56 AM] Pontology#1010
The word racism? First recorded use is in 1902 according to google


[28-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Honahue#0656
guess no one was racist before 1902


[28-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:caddy:


[28-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You're being "silly", Hona


[28-Jun-20 10:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Re-read the last handful of entries


[28-Jun-20 10:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
*the word racism*


[28-Jun-20 10:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It was coined to push communism by shaming people who weren't devoted enough communists.


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I don;t take you seriously so ther's no point


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So derpi staff are communists now?


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It did not accumulate it's "most evil thing in the history of forever" connotation until a while after it was used.


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Honahue#0656
well I do, I'm sure you believe what you say but it's all gartbage


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
In 1902, nobody was saying you're either "racist" or communist.


[28-Jun-20 10:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not in 1902, but later on, when it became more common.


[28-Jun-20 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
At no point has it been a major idea that those are the two options for ideology.


[28-Jun-20 11:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There hav been occasionally people who say it, like in response to civil rights being granted, but the idea did not catch on, and is not prevalent today.


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
On the contrary, I find that I must disagree


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
("Race mixing is communism" is a rather stupid sign that did actually exist in the 50s)


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I believe that the word "racist" is a word that exists inside the average person's lexicon


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
People know what racism means.


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't know what communism means, mostly.


[28-Jun-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they don't consider the two opposites.


[28-Jun-20 11:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You don't need to know what communism means in order to have a definition for the word racist. I don't think I quite get this point.


[28-Jun-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Capitalism* is the opposite of communism, and does not require racism.


[28-Jun-20 11:02 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No, that's not quite right.


[28-Jun-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's ridiculous.


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not if we're going to dig into the really small specifics, at least


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism is about treating people prejudicially on race.


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Slow down


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you need communism to define that?


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prejudice and race don't require communism to define.


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
We're talking about two different world clusterfucks right now


[28-Jun-20 11:03 AM] Tumultuous#2853
And we're doing this without being super specific in our speech.


[28-Jun-20 11:04 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's a recipie for a lot of confusion and going back and forth without getting anything done


[28-Jun-20 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav made these claims:
1. Racism and communism are seen as opposites.
2. Defining racism requires defining communism.


[28-Jun-20 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
On 1, this is clearly not true. Any person on the street will say *capitalism* is the opposite of communism.


[28-Jun-20 11:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
On 2, basic logic shows this as completely false.


[28-Jun-20 11:05 AM] Pontology#1010
I think Tumultuous is trying to make the following argument:

(1) Humans are tribal and will always separate ourselves in groups. Traditionally, it's nations. Communism's groups are proletariat-bourgeoisie. 
(2) "Racist" is typically leveraged against those who want to divide ourselves into national groups, as opposed to class or ideological groups.


[28-Jun-20 11:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Two Subjects. 
1) Racism was coined, or had early popularization in trying to shame Slavic people who preferred existing Slavic culture to Communism.
2) Capitalism and Communism are exactly Opposite to each other


[28-Jun-20 11:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I have NEVER claimed that Racism and Communism were opposites


[28-Jun-20 11:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism isn't nationalism. They are similar, but not the same.


[28-Jun-20 11:06 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I have NEVER claimed that defining racism requires defining communism.


[28-Jun-20 11:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I think I misread on 2...but wait, that means that defense doesn't make sense.


[28-Jun-20 11:07 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I talked about it's origin as a tool used to help propagate communism. That does not mean that it is the opposite. That means that it was a shame-stick that was used to emotionally beat people into complying with communism


[28-Jun-20 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do the tools used to get people to agree with communism hav to do with talking about modern stuff?


[28-Jun-20 11:08 AM] Pontology#1010
What Tumultuous says appears to be true in the USSR, where the term was introduced by Trotsky


[28-Jun-20 11:08 AM] ononim#8141
>Racism was coined, or had early popularization in trying to shame Slavic people who preferred existing Slavic culture to Communism.


[28-Jun-20 11:08 AM] ononim#8141
The fuck are you talking about


[28-Jun-20 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we're talking about guns, you don't need to get into how guns were tools to coerce people into communism.


[28-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Pontology#1010
He's talking about the USSR subjugating various slavic nations under its dream of a one-world socialist republic


[28-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Tumultuous#2853
On subject 2) Communism and Capitalism are, broadly speaking, in opposition to each other. That is certainly the framing device the cold wars took. But if we get into the very fine nitty gritty details of things, then these two things are not equivalent to each other. Since we were talking about specifics of language, I was in a very strictly logical frame of mind instead of the more loose and general frame that this branch of the conversation was working


[28-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a complete non sequitor.


[28-Jun-20 11:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Afaik, my asian people who refused to accept bolsheviks back in early 20th century were actually called "nationalists" rather than racists.


[28-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Are you talking about in Maoist China?


[28-Jun-20 11:10 AM] ononim#8141
Central Asia


[28-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I also NEVER claimed that racism was the same as nationalism. I don't understand where you got this idea, or how you might have otherwise arrived at the decision to specify that racism isn't nationalism


[28-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Pontology#1010
He got it from me


[28-Jun-20 11:10 AM] Pontology#1010
My bad :shrug:


[28-Jun-20 11:11 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I only saw "racist" used as a beating stick after ww2.


[28-Jun-20 11:12 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The tools used to get people to agree with communism have to do with talking about modern stuff because it appears to be used similarly right now. Not in the same direct way that a onw-paragraph history channel boils down the subject, but it does seem to be used to promote things that conveniently happen to align with communist subversion tactics. Mix some good changes with the bad, and all that.


[28-Jun-20 11:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Luna _does_ want a one-world government


[28-Jun-20 11:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Would it be socialist by chance?


[28-Jun-20 11:13 AM] Pontology#1010
A one-world socialist government?


[28-Jun-20 11:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
So... antifa is communism? This seems like tinfoil hattery.


[28-Jun-20 11:13 AM] ononim#8141
Nebbie? Communist? Wew


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Antifa has its origins in a Stalinist party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

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Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn]), commonly known under its abbreviation Antifa (German: [ˈantifaː]), was a militant anti-fascist organisation in the Weimar Republic started by members of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) that existed from 193...


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The bars had to be lowered, Ononim.


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's a better explanation than I could do, Pont.


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism took over the world, but it's because now "communism" is anyone not smooching the buttholes of millionnaires.


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Luna, are you a socialist?


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] ononim#8141
"Antifa" reffered also to dovdem anti-comnunist Iron Front too iirc


[28-Jun-20 11:14 AM] ononim#8141
Your point?


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trotsky's Permanent Revolution of using democracy to improve workers' rights slowly and gradually and tell capitalism to go to its room.


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Do you care about the differences between Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Leninism, Trotskyism, or Maoism?


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I do not


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Pontology#1010
I do


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>I do not


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Do you care about the differences between Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Leninism, Trotskyism, or Maoism?
@Tumultuous Wew lad


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] Pontology#1010
I only care inasmuch as it is necessary to understand


[28-Jun-20 11:15 AM] ononim#8141
"Socialism" is a fucking meaningless word that people use for literalky anything they want


[28-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I guess murdering millions of people is the same as wanting workers' rights now.


[28-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sorry guys, but Hitler ate vegetables so


[28-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
no more vegetarianism, meat only.


[28-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Pontology#1010
@ononim This is true, but I am strict in using the wikipedia/dictionary definition


[28-Jun-20 11:16 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's the weakest word on the list, I'll grant, Ononim


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Luna, are you a socialist?


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] ononim#8141
Marxism, pettite bourgue anarchism, lassalian state capitalusms, social democracy, liberal democracy, conservatives that use some sort of wellfare, et c et c


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Good question, you'd hav to actually define socialism first.


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist and seems to have no clue what it means


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Pontology#1010
He thinks Denmark is socialist despite it being a free-market capitalist state


[28-Jun-20 11:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'm pretty sure I'm "socialist" in the same way that large mushrooms are "trees".


[28-Jun-20 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie is a "champagne socialist" to my understanding.


[28-Jun-20 11:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I consider him an acceptable compromise with evil.


[28-Jun-20 11:18 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I've read about how "Communism is the goal, Socialism is the method", so I'm generally distrustful of it. Like anything that tries to increase the power of a centralized government, I think it's a very good idea to try to be as aware and cautious around this as reasonable.


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, any attempt at reforming things is clearly just Stalin's ghost coming to puppet us.


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Socialism is supposed to dissolve into communism according to Marx's ridiculous theories


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think you're mixing up "massive growth" with "reform".


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm not sure why


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Pontology#1010
"We will achieve a stateless society by increasing the size of the state"


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Pontology#1010
– communist logic


[28-Jun-20 11:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does socialism hav to do with growth of government?


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Everything


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Synfag#9241

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[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats aren't socialist, and neither are Republicans.


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Pontology#1010
State socialism is how socialism has always manifested


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] ononim#8141
If you use liberal and anarchist degmfination of state, sure


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Both grow the government with their bullshit regulatory systems that'd be mostly unnecessary with "socialism" that scandinavian countries hav.


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that republicans in the US say that the nordic countries aren't "socialist", but then say that the policies which nordic countries have, when separated from their countries, are socialist


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I don't know what socialism is but I hate it"


[28-Jun-20 11:20 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Socialism means Socializing things that used to be Private. Like health care responsibliities


[28-Jun-20 11:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Reform can be as simple as changing police training methods or altering patrol routes.


[28-Jun-20 11:21 AM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 11:21 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This can be done without increasing the size or cost of the police force


[28-Jun-20 11:21 AM] Pontology#1010
socializing = nationalizing


[28-Jun-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wew that Venn diagram.


[28-Jun-20 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys, the founding fathers dislike our SOCIAL SAFETY NETS


[28-Jun-20 11:22 AM] Crow#5457
how the fuck is modern conservatism a subset of modern liberalism?


[28-Jun-20 11:23 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a venn diagram of how large they want the state to be in these regards


[28-Jun-20 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe the idea is the circles represent what the state should provide.


[28-Jun-20 11:23 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You know what else Denmark is? Extremely economically prosperous, having extremely high taxes, and very homogeneous. This helps because it hooks into the tribalism instinct. You'll get people who don't like social safety nets in general, but their tribalist instincts can be assuaged by the "at least it's going to someone in my group" instincts speaking up.


[28-Jun-20 11:23 AM] Pontology#1010
^ Studies show that people become less willing to want redistributionist safety nets if they think it's going to someone outside their "group"


[28-Jun-20 11:24 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@Crow No, it isn't. look again.


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Gotta work within people's instincts where possible. There are limits to how much you can mentally reprogram people without their instincts working against it in the background


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's why I said "Tabula Rasa is a false god" a while ago.


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
So get people to redefine the "group".


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Tabula Rasa is the Blank Slate theory


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There are limits on that, Nebbie


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Crow#5457
that entire paragraph implies that we shouldn't have any social safety nets for a diverse population because someone will be mad the "out" group is receiving benefits


[28-Jun-20 11:25 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The first is basic appearance. Infants will prefer to be with people who are the same race as their genetic parents.


[28-Jun-20 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not genetic parents.


[28-Jun-20 11:26 AM] Crow#5457
when you could just, y'know, change how people view who is in the in group and who is in the out group


[28-Jun-20 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You could remove a baby from its genetic parents and put it with a family of a completely different race.


[28-Jun-20 11:26 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It will cause much more social stress than is safe. You're oversimplifying and exaggerating to the point where I'm a little worried you're missingthe point, but you might havethe right idea, Crow


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the baby believes those to be its parents, it'll prefer to be with others like them.


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty sure no, Luna. Infants bond to their mothers by scent as they're being born.


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"You could just change how people view the in group and outgroup"
No, you can't. There are hard limits on this.


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Pontology#1010
That's why a newborn will cry if it's not in its mother's arms


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There will always be some willing to accept that level of reprogramming, but there will be more and more people who will not accept that reprogramming


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Crow#5457
what hard limits?


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure that would last long enuff to matter for this.


[28-Jun-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Babies aren't all that smart. Kids who are adopted often don't know when they aren't told.


[28-Jun-20 11:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This portion will change depending on how much societal stress they're under, AND how different the "other" group is.


[28-Jun-20 11:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
People are not univerally, infinitely, programmable


[28-Jun-20 11:28 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Instincts exist


[28-Jun-20 11:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Raise a white baby with blakk parents and see what happens as far as "group" perception.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely in the absence of American-like culture, you wouldn't see the baby caring at all about skin color for group perception.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Pontology#1010
My brother was adopted from Mexico into a white family. I can testify firsthand that identifying with people who look like you is inborn.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause as the kid grows up, he notices that skin color varies wildly in his family group.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That couldn't be further from the truth, Nebbie


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Pontology#1010
From a young age, he did so.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The baby will care about being near those it recognizes as it's parents


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
He would thus need a different identifier to use for considering people part of his ingroup.


[28-Jun-20 11:29 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This is not the same thing as a child saying "I dislike being around these people of a different race, because they do not resemble me"


[28-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Instincts exist.


[28-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instincts aren't that complicated in humans.


[28-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
People are not infinitely programmable


[28-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
They are


[28-Jun-20 11:30 AM] Tumultuous#2853
They might be basic, but they interact with each other and every aspect of one's life to produce extremely complex patterns


[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Emergent patterns, I think they're called


[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/

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Three-month-olds, but not newborns, prefer own-race faces
Adults are sensitive to the physical differences that define ethnic groups. However, the age at which we become sensitive to ethnic differences is currently unclear. Our study aimed to clarify this by testing newborns and young infants for sensitivity ...
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[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Tumultuous#2853
When simple starting rules can produce very complex results


[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
This suggests it is programmed as far as which race is considered the "own"


[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't happen immediately.


[28-Jun-20 11:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you transplanted a baby to parents of a different race, you would thus expect the baby to perceive them as the race to use for this.


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Seems like you're trying to challenge human nature through massive social engineering


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And as the kid grows up, they're probably not going to persist that when they notice that they are different in this regard.


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You realize that you're conceding the main point, and are just quibbling over the tiny details, right?


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the point isn't that babies do something racial


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
But they do.


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
the point is that we can make people see different outgroups than some base programming.


[28-Jun-20 11:32 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There happens to be a pretty handy link that was just posted


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The findings imply that adults' perceptions of ethnic differences are learned and derived from differences in exposure to own- versus other-race faces during early development."


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Pontology#1010
>we can make people see different outgroups than some base programming
Yes, challenging human nature ("base programming") through social engineering


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Why?


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk human nature.


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
You can't fuck with people's base programming forever. There are limits. That's why communism always fails. If you could just social-engineer newborns into the perfect little communist drones, then Communism wouldn't have killed over 100 million people


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If human nature does evil shit, **destroy it**.


[28-Jun-20 11:33 AM] Tumultuous#2853
First, it's not evil.


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need to fukk with it forever.


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Second, Yes, that's what communists tend to do


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's an if clause btw if you can't tell.


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
...I'm communist for not being racist?


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow.


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Pontology#1010
You're an international socialist


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
@ononim sorry I'm communist now


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] ononim#8141
Fuck


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If I were to suggest that you're jumping to conclusions here, would you be receptive to that?


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Haven't you heard


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Macarou#9574
And I'm the CEO of Antifa


[28-Jun-20 11:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wow: :angrylun: :communism:


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] ononim#8141
Also amazing how infabts never cry in their mother arms


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Opposing nazis is **literally** promoting communism


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
May you get your ten years in prison for your contributions to the terrorist cells destroying all those statues, then, Ononim


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
HEY GAIZ MAYBE WE SHOULD SOMEWHAT COUNTERACT OUR HORRIBLE BASE INSTINCTS MADE FOR THE SERENGETTI


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
OH NOEZ


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Pontology#1010
@ononim Of course they cry in their mother's arms. They just cry more if they're in someone else's arms due to the scent-bonding


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] ononim#8141
Can't belive Churchil tbe old chap was a commie


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'M GROWING STALIN'S EVIL STACHE


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm pretty sure you knew what I meant.


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Base instincts took millions of years of evolution to build


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk millions of years of evolution.


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
TIL everyone on the internet is american


[28-Jun-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] ononim#8141
@Tumultuous i am not a yank


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could genetically engineer shit in a century if we really wanted to.


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
We can only barely build a very shallow set of rules on top of these instincts to create a civilization.


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Pontology#1010
@ononim There's a reason commies are trying to tear down Churchhill. He was "racist" for wanting to keep England ethnically English.


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Even with these shallow and limited rules, there is still a ton of work that has to be done to keep most people working together instead of murdering each other


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No you retard


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking read history


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also genocided Indians by starving them.


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
FFS


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] ononim#8141
Tho I do support demolitions of statues gloryfing slavers who rose up in rebelion to keep slaves


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Killed millions because he didn't like Ghandi.


[28-Jun-20 11:36 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I think you are seriously trying to apply far, FAR more changes to base human psychology than are sustainable in the long term.


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is unsustainable?


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The result of this level of attempted change is ALWAYS the breakdown of civilization.


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Maybe don't separate by race guys"


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's not any one specific thing.


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie Ok, so why are people calling him racist?


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"NOOOO U DESTROY BASIS OF SOCIETYYYYYYYYY"


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
"HAHA MIXED RACE KID GO BRRRRRT"


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because of the shit he said and did?


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It is the whole general goal of trying to program a perfect Communist drone.


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well I dunno man


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Tumultuous#2853
This thing we call civilization is fragile.


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
if I killed millions of Indians


[28-Jun-20 11:37 AM] ononim#8141
@Pontology tes he indeed was a horrible racist who valued englush people more than the people british empire ruled over sees


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Specifically to oppress indians, because of their race?


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus, open a book


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
because I didn't like that an Indian was saying Indians shouldn't be ruled by me and given less rights than my race


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'd probably be called racist too.


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just a thought.


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stop trying to learn history by looking at statues


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
We have to implement rules like "don't kill people, resolve your conflicts with a police and law service instead".


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Many people can't follow these rules, and have to be put in prison


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Did he want to oppress Indians because of their race?


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so I tell the police to treat everyone the same by race


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Hrmm, he looks cool and the placard says he was cool SO I GUESS THAT'S ALL TRUE AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT"


[28-Jun-20 11:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and to destroy all statues.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Like, was that his reason? That Indians are racially inferior?


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I write the law to support this.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cool?


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, he did consider them racially inferior.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] ononim#8141
Shame that it looms like police doesn't follow these themselves, eh


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are a thousand books written about it


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why he didn't care when millions of them died.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Try reading just one of them


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were in his country btw.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they weren't in *England*, but they were in the UK at the time.


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"If these people don't spoonfeed me everything it's PROOF they're wrong, HAHA!"


[28-Jun-20 11:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Killed his own citizens by the millions on the basis of their race.


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] ononim#8141
@Pontology becquse of his words about them, and his actions while in the position of power


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But oh guys, he hated Stalin, wasn't a communist! That makes it okay!


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
"We built this statue because this guy was a super good hard worker who built a ton of really nice watches!"
Wow! this watch building guy was a really good hard worker! Being a hard worker is good... I want to be good. So I'm going to go learn to make watches and do a great job. These are the values that my society reinforces!!!


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's what statues for


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The memorialized person is memorialized for exhibiting a virtue


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cool, build a watch-maker statue


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
How about building a watch statue.


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] ononim#8141
So, why are there statues of slaver generals?


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't build a Dereck Johnson, Watchmaker statue


[28-Jun-20 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That celebrates how great watchers are.


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because you know what


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Winston_Churchill

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Racial views of Winston Churchill
Throughout his life, Winston Churchill made numerous explicit statements on race and his views on race contributed to his decisions and actions in British politics. From the late 20th century onwards, these attitudes resulted in a reappraisal of his life achievements and work ...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Sir_Winston_Churchill_-_19086236948.jpg/1200px-Sir_Winston_Churchill_-_19086236948.jpg


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Not because they were a fantastical paragon of perfection in everything that no-one, even hundreds of years from now and all the changing social norms, will never have a problem with


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not like, some evil guy who happened to make watches.


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Chances are Dereck at some point fucked up


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Can someone explain to me why this guy opposed the Nazis?


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the Nazis wanted his land.


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Pontology#1010
He said, "The Aryan stock is bound to triumph"


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And kept bombing it.


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] ononim#8141
Because baxies opposed british empire


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
because the nazis wanted his stuff basically


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Pontology#1010
But then why did he reject the Nazis' peace treaty in 1941?


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] ononim#8141
Nazies* fuck you phone


[28-Jun-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because it would've screwed him over strategically.


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He knew holding out for the US to come and bail him out was a better plan.


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Pontology#1010
So he valued England above the "Aryan stock"


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Leaving Hitler in control of the whole European continent almost would be a really retarded move.


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] ononim#8141
He tbought english were of aryan stock


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Pontology#1010
So did Hitler


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler previously pulled that shit btw


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Because they are


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler would agree to treaties, then build up forces to later break them.


[28-Jun-20 11:42 AM] Pontology#1010
The English are a Germanic ethnic group that conquered Britain 1000 years ago


[28-Jun-20 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hitler never respected a treaty.


[28-Jun-20 11:43 AM] ononim#8141
And would "triumph" and continue to do so over non english subjects of the empire


[28-Jun-20 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only times Hitler didn't outright betray allies or neutral parties was when countries financially supported Nazi Germany.


[28-Jun-20 11:43 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>These are the values that my society reinforces!!!
I wonder what this statue is supposed to reinforce :twismug:

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[28-Jun-20 11:44 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If you had a choice between Nazis or Communists (I know, I know. A werewolf vs a vampire), which would you hate the least if they were going to take over and run your country? Assume you have  a few months to plan to leave.


[28-Jun-20 11:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stooped no, this statue is a sign of _equality_ and _respect_, stop reading so much into it GAWD


[28-Jun-20 11:44 AM] Crow#5457
communism doesn't have literal systemic extermination hard baked into its ideology like nazism does

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[28-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I was told that artistic intent was polar opposite of what people see :lul:


[28-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
So that's why Communism keeps being tried again. People actually think it's better.

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[28-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well I guess one big factor is whether I'm the race or ethnic group the nazis consider to be cattle for slaughter


[28-Jun-20 11:45 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Tell me, how do the corpse mountains stack up between the two?


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Have you ever heard of a gulag, teaspoon?


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] ononim#8141
Per capita? Nazies sure were quick to rack it up


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No side will give you sunshine and rainbows


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] Yuri#4154
bOtH sIdES


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
there is no way you can ever say nazism is better without at least admitting to be a fascist because communism (or what you refer to as "communism") doesn't have discrimination based on genetics as a cornerstone of its ideology


[28-Jun-20 11:46 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Communism started to profusely reek of extermination when Stalin came to power.


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Communism tends to starve its people. Nazism prefers to gas them.


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tell us @Tumultuous , if the choice was between nazis and communists and your and your loved ones' ethnic group was classed as the the one to put in concentration and extermination camps, which would you choose


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] ononim#8141
Why yes, all people here, even those who aren't communists, are stalunists


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Tumultuous#2853
The Nazis, because I'd have a chance to leave, and there'd still be a country to move back to after it fell.


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Why does communism keep being tried? Because only one side is demonized


[28-Jun-20 11:47 AM] Crow#5457
rofl


[28-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
I...


[28-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
This is low-key hilarious


[28-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Again, Werewolf vs vampire


[28-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everyone knows that communism 100% equals stalinism and maoism and whatever the CCP pretends to be peddling this week


[28-Jun-20 11:48 AM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm not so sure, Teaspoon.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
"The Nazis, because I'd have a chance to leave"
🤣


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Enough people talk like they think communism is actually a good thing, or could actually bring good results that I'm worried


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Yep.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] ononim#8141
>The Nazis, because I'd have a chance to leave,


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that you wouldn't actually have a chance to leave under nazism


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sure, sure, before war broke out, they deported jews en masse.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
nazis shut down the borders hard


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] ononim#8141
LMAO


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, they also were putting a lot of people in work camps to die


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Wrong. Plenty of Jews fled in the 1930's after Hitler came to power.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
after the war broke out, they just started killing people.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] Pontology#1010
It's communists who build walls to keep people in


[28-Jun-20 11:49 AM] ononim#8141
Tell that it to the jews who were restricted in the movemebt after bazies come to power


[28-Jun-20 11:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Step one, in the example, I said "assume you have a few months to leave". And yes, hitler was in the papers trying to urge people he didn't like to get out of the country


[28-Jun-20 11:50 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's one of the things my history teacher taught. He was in the papers for a while, telling the world exactly what he was going to do if the people he was trying to get to leave the country didn't leave.


[28-Jun-20 11:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's one of the things that stood out to me. He said he would do bad things, and then he did. That was what caused some international blame, apparently


[28-Jun-20 11:51 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That the other nations heard the plans, and didn't do enough to stop them


[28-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you...think it's a good thing that he did the bad things he promised? Why are you pointing that out?


[28-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, European nations thought "appeasement" would work.


[28-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
They kept thinking if they just gave Hitler what he wanted, he wouldn't keep pulling shit.


[28-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No. I think it's worth noting that he didn't just surprise people with a murder plan.


[28-Jun-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's retarded, he kept taking more and more.


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There were signs of what was going to happen


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Eventually he was just outright going to war when people stalled negotiations.


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
uhhh, yeah he did? the actual purpose of the concentration camps were kept pretty tightly under wraps


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Tumultuous#2853
With Communists, they kept lying about how things were fine, then abducted you and sent you to the gulags to die


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] ononim#8141
Wow tbese jews in poland and lithuania should just had moved after Hitler took power in germany


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah other countries didn't know that Hitler was gassing jews en masse until Germany was falling apart.


[28-Jun-20 11:54 AM] Pontology#1010
All the Germans knew the Jews were being put in concentration camps


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
and there was a huge crackdown on jews attempting to flee nazi-controlled areas


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Pontology#1010
They just weren't fully aware of the death camps


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't know much about the camps or their purpose.


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
did you think the main purpose of the camps was to act as prisons?


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
because that wasn't the main purpose, that was the cover story


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] ononim#8141
"Put in camps" doesn't always equate with industrial slaufhter


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It's not just the jews


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There were lots of other groups


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
that's not relevant


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] ononim#8141
Yes and?


[28-Jun-20 11:55 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It is super relevant


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
It shows that Nazis coming to power is bad for people even if they're not jews


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jews were literally half of the ones in the camps.


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't particularly matter that there was another half that was varied in nature.


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] ononim#8141
It was bad for people they deemed untermensch yes


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Widening the range of people who might think it's a bad idea for nazis to come in to power is important for historical perspective


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Every gypsy was as important as every jew


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The other half was mainly gypsies and soviet soldiers btw.


[28-Jun-20 11:56 AM] ononim#8141
What do you want to prove by pointing out that it wasn't only jews is beyond me


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Pontology#1010
The main reason I oppose nazism is half my friends are jews :shrug:


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean, the main reason I oppose on an emotional level


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Fundamental inalienable value of human life, remember?


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Pontology#1010
I also oppose it morally of course


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] ononim#8141
Yes abd?


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Once you remove those three, it's pretty much just gays and the occasional political opponent, I think.


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] Tumultuous#2853
Also, consciencious objectors.


[28-Jun-20 11:57 AM] ononim#8141
What's the point?


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] ononim#8141
Do people here insisted that non jewish or non roma victims of nazism are less?


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
If you portray it like "hitler only killed and hated jews", then everyone else is going to think "so, he's not going to have a grudge against me? Then if I'm not under targeted threat, I don't really care."


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Pontology#1010
No, I said why that's not true


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Tumultuous#2853
That's why I think it's important to have a more accurate model of that


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] ononim#8141
@Nebbie soviet povs and slave labour


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Half my friends are jews


[28-Jun-20 11:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Even if Hitler only hated Jews, it'd still make me sick due to the magic of friendship


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
@ononim I insist that they're just as valuable. each and every human life, wrongfully ended, is a tragedy


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
No matter if they're gypsy or jewish


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh btw


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] ononim#8141
Please show me here someone who disagreas


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the article linked on Winston Churchill's views on races


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Churchill often made disparaging comments about Indians, particularly in private conversation. At one point, he explicitly told his Secretary of State for India, Leo Amery, that he "hated Indians" and considered them "a beastly people with a beastly religion".[18]'


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Tumultuous#2853
There seems to be a lot of focus on Jews, which erases the non-jewish victims.


[28-Jun-20 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
... the nazis lied about everything being fine as well, and it wasn't "Communists" that lied about everything being fine, it was stalinism


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, he said the same about chinese people as well


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] ononim#8141
Because Nazies those groups more frequently


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maoism also lied a lot.


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Tumultuous#2853
The non-jewish victims haven't been getting decades of worldwide remembrance or hundreds of millions of dollars of famous hollywood movies to remember them


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] ononim#8141
Targeted*


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Pontology#1010
Pol Pot too


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maoism was essentially China's old Legalism ideas in an even worse pakkage.


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Tumultuous#2853
So I think it's worth highlighting


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
it's like there's a common trend among authoritarian shitheads to lie about everything being alright


[28-Jun-20 12:00 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, media only cares about the 6 million


[28-Jun-20 12:01 PM] ononim#8141
There were still poles and russians after german army passed them


[28-Jun-20 12:01 PM] ononim#8141
Not so with jews and roma


[28-Jun-20 12:01 PM] ononim#8141
Doesn't mean that other victims are less


[28-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that george orwell (the writer of 1984) was a marxist antifascist revolutionary


[28-Jun-20 12:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The interesting thing is Maoism and Stalinism both created famines domestically to ship food to other places for political favor.


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Tumultuous#2853
He learned better later on in life.


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Tumultuous#2853
That's why he wrote the book


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Crow#5457
he never stopped advocating for democratic socialism


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's essentially the big thing about spreading communism.


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Pol Pot was a whole other brand


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Pol Pot was based af


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
He killed people with glasses for having glasses.


[28-Jun-20 12:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Sending the intellectuals out to work in the fields and killing all people with glasses


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
He killed people who knew other languages


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Pontology#1010
ancom-primitivism


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
he basically destroyed his country's...everything.


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Pontology#1010
Pol Pot was the most based leader in modern history


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
people starved like crazy, no exporting food necessary.


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was just senseless killing and torture.


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People love to namedrop Orwell and 1984 when decrying anti-fascists


[28-Jun-20 12:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything to maintain power.


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But the dude literally crossed an ocean to pick up a rifle and shoot fascists in the face


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Cool story, bro


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Wat


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, you should read about it


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Tumultuous#2853
AntiFa ARE the fascists


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Yuri#4154
That's literally what happened


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Holy shit


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Yuri#4154
I was waiting for this one


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Lul


[28-Jun-20 12:04 PM] Tumultuous#2853
They will physically attack you for having different political opinions.


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Tumultuous#2853
It is characteristic of their group


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Pontology#1010
No, Antifa are not fascists


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Pontology#1010
I hate this line


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Pontology#1010
They're international socialists


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, different opinions such as "fuck niggers"


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism isn't hurting people who hav different political ideas.


[28-Jun-20 12:05 PM] Tumultuous#2853
No, different opinions like "Don't tear down this statue, it is my country's history"


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Or "Make bitcoin great again"


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fascism is blaming and prejudicing outgroups, usually racial ones, as ideology.


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Pontology#1010
Conservatives calling the far-left fascist instead of what they are is another reason for society tending to slide to the left


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I do not accept your definition, Nebbie


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why there are no Hitler statues in Germany I wonder :twismug:


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, you can be stupid if you want to.


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Yuri#4154
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/648069771551834113/v0Mhyz9JRD9xC0dFWWQqQX9V-cBZxovmo8N8G4UVLXQ.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/648069771551834113/v0Mhyz9JRD9xC0dFWWQqQX9V-cBZxovmo8N8G4UVLXQ.png


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Because of generations of Germany being the punching bag of the international medioa


[28-Jun-20 12:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gods


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Has germany been decried as evil for generations, or has it not?


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When was the last time you were in Germany?


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Inherently evil


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Pontology#1010
@Yuri Antifa beats up democrats who are not sufficiently progressive


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Because of generations of Germany being the punching bag of the international medioa

You imply Germans would have them otherwise.


[28-Jun-20 12:07 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Remember the slogan "Liberals get the bullet, too".


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Well, we don't really know, do we? Probably not.


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Yuri#4154
Antifa isn't an actual centralised group


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
But they even censor their own history books


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Doesn't matter, yuri


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
They're organized into cells


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Pontology#1010
@Yuri Please read on where Antifa comes from. A militant Stalinist organization whose main enemy in the Weimar republic wasn't the nazis, but the social democrats, whom they called fascist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

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Antifaschistische Aktion
Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn]), commonly known under its abbreviation Antifa (German: [ˈantifaː]), was a militant anti-fascist organisation in the Weimar Republic started by members of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) that existed from 193...


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
They use the same imagery and branding


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know of anyone censoring history books for liberal causes.


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Tumultuous#2853
They have organizers and trainers that travel around to the different groups


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm actually the CEO of Antifa /s


[28-Jun-20 12:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The censoring of history books I know of is Texas removing all sorts of shit about civil rights.


[28-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Pontology#1010
There isn't liberal book censorship in the U.S., but there is in Europe


[28-Jun-20 12:09 PM] Tumultuous#2853
They have organized roles for protests with people dedicated to attacking someone and then slipping back into the crowd to be unidentifiable


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Tumultuous#2853
These attacks include things like Bludgeoning someone over the head with a bike lock. THAT'S ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON.


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Isn't that literally every riot in history?


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
the fact of the matter is that george orwell was the textbook definition of an antifascist, no matter how much you try to downplay his connections to the movement


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wtf yuri that's my job


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't know how I can possibly impress upon you that this is a BAD THING that you need to highlight. It is NOT OKAY in any stretch of the word


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
No no no, TSP, you're the CTO.


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Tumultuous#2853
No, it is not every riot in history.


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Pontology#1010
Crow, you betray that antifascism isn't just anyone who opposes fascism


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Crow#5457
and he literally never stopped advocating for democratic implementations of marxism and socialism


[28-Jun-20 12:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm the board of directors.


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Macarou#9574
And I'm his assistant


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
an antifascist is literally a person who opposes fascism


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Every riot in history is based around people who do shit and then blend in with the crowd.


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's how riots work.


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Pontology#1010
Then I'm an antifascist


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
there is no qualifier to be an antifascist beyond opposing fascism


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Tumultuous#2853
And a Nazi is just a person who doesn't want his country to suffer under the treaty of Versailles.


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
**FUCK**


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Pontology#1010
Yet antifa beats up people like me


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
**GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ALL TO HELL**


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Oh wait, you don't buy that excuse when it comes to the Nazis, do you?


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Crow#5457
do you have proof of it?


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Pontology#1010
This happened while I was in Berkeley https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/


[28-Jun-20 12:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I forgot to pause my monthly humble bundle subscription


[28-Jun-20 12:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
damnit


[28-Jun-20 12:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
I indeed don't buy cheap as shit BUT THE FRENCH JEWS HURT US SO WE HURT BAKK excuses, correct.


[28-Jun-20 12:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Rip


[28-Jun-20 12:12 PM] Macarou#9574
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

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Anti-fascism
Anti-fascism is opposition to fascist ideologies, groups and individuals. The anti-fascist movement began in a few European countries in the 1920s, and eventually spread to other countries around the world. It was at its most significant shortly before and during World War II,...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/101st_with_members_of_dutch_resistance.jpg


[28-Jun-20 12:12 PM] Tumultuous#2853
"Every bad idea comes from France"


[28-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
"A pepper-spray-wielding Trump supporter was smacked to the ground with homemade shields. Another was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself. A conservative group leader retreated for safety behind a line of riot police as marchers chucked water bottles, shot off pepper spray and screamed, “Fascist go home!”"


[28-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukking NICE.


[28-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump supporters trying to cause people pain getting a beatdown? That shit is pornographic.


[28-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Yuri#4154
Based


[28-Jun-20 12:13 PM] Tumultuous#2853
You know what? I have never, ever heard a libera come out on the news and spend the first 30 seconds of their speaking time disassociating themselves from the violence and hatred of AntiFa and other violent far left groups. And I find that very, very telling.


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Pontology#1010
See, this is why your definition of antifascism is insincere


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
if liberals come on the news


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I am *eagerly* waiting for the time a mob of these violent thugs attack the wrong person


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
they are automatically responsible for any bad things any liberal has done


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
and need to waste all of their talking time apologizing


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Macarou#9574
And must repent their sin


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Hey, any right-winger is assume to be responsible.


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's just how it works, duh.


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Tumultuous#2853
After enough years of that, it starts to become the new normal


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't care if you don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot


[28-Jun-20 12:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why doesn't Trump disassociate himself from the KKK every time he's at a rally?!?!?!


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Tumultuous#2853
You shit the bed. Now you have to sleep with it.


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you see people come on the news, not apologize for right wing hate, and then get shat on, when they had nothing to do with it?


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Sidenote, I fucking hate now Murican politics basically made "liberal" mean "left wing"


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Because the KKK are a democrat-founded organization


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm _not_ a liberal


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Ew


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Crow#5457
US liberals aren't even left wing lol


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Democrats that founded the KKK are basically modern Republicans.


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Tumultuous#2853
It works with Canadian politics, too.


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The parties traded positions in the 20th century.


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I CANNOT BELIEVE Tucker Carlson isn't denouncing the Illinois republican nazis when he starts his 15 minutes of hate


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Though technically, the NDP is the further left-wing party to the liberals


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Canada? You mean North USA? 
/s


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
smh what has the world come to


[28-Jun-20 12:15 PM] Pontology#1010
"The parties switched" is nonsense. If the parties switched, FDR would be a Republican today.

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[28-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Crow#5457
USA's hat


[28-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party was based on Southerners and farmers who were racist and wanted slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Republican party was based on Northerners and businesses who disliked slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Remind me, which of these countries invaded the other, burned down their capitol building and then left?


[28-Jun-20 12:16 PM] Tumultuous#2853
War of 1812.


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
FDR was a northern democrat


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the 50s and 60s, Democrats started opposing racism


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lmao rekt by cannucks


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
This resulted in Southerners being uneasy.


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
it was the northern democrats that started opposing racism


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It gained Democrats wide support as they had the North and South (many Southerners, tho uneasy, were honorbound to keep supporting the same party)


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Crow#5457
mainly as a political ploy to get more votes, but beggers can't be choosers


[28-Jun-20 12:17 PM] Tumultuous#2853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o92E77-M8nM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o92E77-M8nM
The War of 1812  by Three Dead Trolls  in a Baggie
An adaptation of the Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie classic
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o92E77-M8nM/hqdefault.jpg


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans however realized they could become the party of racist southerners, farmers, AND business.


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Pontology#1010
If you look at the Democratic platform in 1900, it was pro-union, pro-labor, etc, and the South supported this.


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And now they are.


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Pontology#1010
They were economically left-wing.


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
the only reason it worked was because republicans hadn't done anything for civil rights in the US since the end of the civil war


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Pontology#1010
The South slowly became economically right-wing in the 20th century


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Crow#5457
practically a century of jim crow laws


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Pontology#1010
The South switched, not the parties.


[28-Jun-20 12:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would just play devil's advocate whenever racial issues came up.


[28-Jun-20 12:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
By 2000, most of the South was voting Republican solidly.


[28-Jun-20 12:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
The South was in control of the switching, but the parties instigated it.


[28-Jun-20 12:20 PM] Tumultuous#2853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrVgkUKVB2I Could be an interesting video

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The News & Observer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrVgkUKVB2I
HK Edgerton talks about his fight for Confederate monuments
Edgerton, a self-proclaimed "black Confederate activist" visited the site in Chapel Hill where Silent Sam was destroyed by protesters earlier this week.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mrVgkUKVB2I/maxresdefault.jpg


[28-Jun-20 12:20 PM] Pontology#1010
I watched a documentary series on extremist groups


[28-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Pontology#1010
I've seen people like this


[28-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Pontology#1010
According to the footage in the documentary I watched, the people fighting for confederate monuments are surprisingly multiracial


[28-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Pontology#1010
doesn't change the general trend. The blacks among them are still exceptions.


[28-Jun-20 12:21 PM] Pontology#1010
So it's interesting only as case studies


[28-Jun-20 12:22 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Most people probably just listen to what's in their textbooks or what's on tv, the news, or the movies


[28-Jun-20 12:23 PM] Tumultuous#2853
You'd have to have someone who's willing to look outside the box AND be resistant to the misinformation campaigns intended to foement racial tensions.


[28-Jun-20 12:23 PM] Pontology#1010
For the record, I support removing Confederate monuments


[28-Jun-20 12:23 PM] Pontology#1010
I always have


[28-Jun-20 12:23 PM] Pontology#1010
I only had fear it would lead to tearing down the founders, which has materialized


[28-Jun-20 12:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
His argument in the video appears to be "this monument was to local heros who stood up to northern aggression that would've destroyed the local area"


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Tumultuous#2853
One thing I've learned ever since I started deliberately seeking out wrongthinkers is that it's a very racially diverse group. Who knew? Basing a gathering on an idea or shared set of principals preserves people's individuality in all aspects while creating a common peace between them


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Tumultuous#2853
This is not indoctrinated peace, it is voluntary


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Crow#5457
"wrongthinkers" lmao


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Yes.


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Hey it's accurate :shrug:


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Tumult and I are wrongthinkers. We're whom the media calls "far-right"


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also he appears to be factually incorrect


[28-Jun-20 12:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Thinking things you're not supposed to think


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
he refers to Lincoln's general order 200


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
but 200 was irrelevant


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
he means 100


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Crow#5457
saying fascism is shitty and should be put down is "wrongthink", ignoring that wrongthink is literally what fascism runs off of


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
100 was about how Union soldiers should conduct themselves...but it's opposite how he paints it


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Tumultuous#2853
The broad category that includes everything from controversial history like the war of 1812 (probably not a focal point in US textbooks) to looking at alternative news like Wired magazine to read what's going to be in the legacy news six years from now


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
He talks about raping and pillaging


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm anti-fascist, just hard-right


[28-Jun-20 12:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
But general order 100 is *against* raping explicitly.


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Tumultuous#2853
No. It's saying AntiFa is a good thing that is bad. They are a terrorist organization.


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Tumultuous#2853
With roots in communism


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Pontology#1010
I actually deradicalized a nazi


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Yuri#4154
What fucking organisation


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
General order 100 was literally a precursor to modern ideas of not committing war crimes.


[28-Jun-20 12:26 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Pray tell, Pont, did you use reasoned discussion, or did you scream at them about how racist and evil they were?


[28-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Macarou#9574
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

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Southern strategy


[28-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I see why he cited general order 100...


[28-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Pontology#1010
I empathized with his pain and hatred and treated him as a hurting human being.


[28-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Pontology#1010
And used reasoned discussion and humanity


[28-Jun-20 12:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's because it was designed to enforce the Emancipation Proclamation, and to assuage Southern concerns that such was a violation of the general unwritten rules of war


[28-Jun-20 12:28 PM] Pontology#1010
He wound up wanting to video chat with me randomly one day


[28-Jun-20 12:28 PM] Pontology#1010
And thinks very fondly of me now


[28-Jun-20 12:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
it was a codification, an actual writing of the rules of war (almost unheard of at the time) that basically said "no, we're actually not going to rape you and steal everything, but we WILL take your fukking slaves"


[28-Jun-20 12:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
So that guy is basically saying that he thinks the monument should've stood *to local heros who made sure the slaves weren't taken*


[28-Jun-20 12:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he's been misinformed to think it was them stopping raping and pillaging.


[28-Jun-20 12:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
The more general form of seeing the war as "Northern aggression" btw is a common tactic to defend the Confederacy as being integral to Southern identity.


[28-Jun-20 12:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Was that before or after General Sherman's "scorched earth" in 1864?


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Tumultuous#2853
"The civil war was a war of northern aggression." Discuss


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
To say that the North came in to stomp out Southern life, not just, you know, make the South return to the US and end slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So 4chan /pol/ is migrating here now?


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sosmol:


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Pontology#1010
I am not from /pol/


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
General order 100 was before.


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm from /mlp/


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it didn't say you couldn't burn shit.


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I'm from Youtube


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It just said you couldn't treat civilians badly, by like raping them.


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Pontology#1010
To be clear, I never browse /pol/ either. It's a cesspool.


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Where are you from?


[28-Jun-20 12:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which was a novel idea at the time.


[28-Jun-20 12:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's no real difference between /pol/ and /mlp/ other than numbers and occasional pony memes

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[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I don't think you spend much time on the site at all, Teaspoon.


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Pontology#1010
:reallyfilly:


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
you claim you're from youtube, but the comic you linked has only ever been posted on 4chan


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird for one of you to disagree when you're from YT


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
:squintyjack:


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Only ever? That's a really strong claim


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the other when you don't browse /pol/


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Really weird


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Pontology#1010
Huh?


[28-Jun-20 12:33 PM] Tumultuous#2853
I've been to 4chan. I'm *from* YouTube


[28-Jun-20 12:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're from YouTube?
Name every channel 🔫


[28-Jun-20 12:34 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Go squirt yourself


[28-Jun-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Tumultuous#2853
There is value in history.


[28-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't, have a sounding tube tickling my prostate atm


[28-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Why is this so hard for Democrats to understand?


[28-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Pontology#1010
That's (some) southerners, not republicans generally


[28-Jun-20 12:35 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Erasing history is a prelude to destroying a culture


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
value in historical monuments to traitors that were erected in the 20's?


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Statues aren't history


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Yuri#4154
Statues aren't hi-


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, statues aren't history


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How is that such a complicated concept


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Teaspoon, you are wrong.


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have books abotu the confederacy, the history isnt being erased, the mouments are


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Macarou#9574
Statues are iconoclastism


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Pontology#1010
^


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Pontology#1010
Wait


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Pontology#1010
No, that's the wrong word


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.startribune.com/removing-statues-is-not-erasing-history/571216862/

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OPINION EXCHANGE  |  Removing statues is not erasing history
A historian's perspective? None of our scholarship requires monuments.
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[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Pontology#1010
I know what you mean though


[28-Jun-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hitler didn't vanish when Germany removed statues of him


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
historians agree that statues aren't history


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Tumultuous#2853
And when you start erasing the books, you'll probably miss a few, so it's not like history is actually being erased, Just a few extra copies of it. Not everyone needs to know


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Pontology#1010
_Iconism_


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Iconoclasty


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stalin isn't forgotten after former block countries tore down his statues


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Pontology#1010
Statues are _iconism,_ and that's important for culture.


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Pontology#1010
E.g. America's civic nationalism


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've talked about using people as icons before


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Pontology#1010
is aided in part by iconism of the founders


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's shitty is the tl;dr.


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point of statues isn't to say our ideals are good


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Thanks for the clarification, Pont.


[28-Jun-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
why would you ever want confederate soldiers to be important for american culture?


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
unless you supported the ideals they fought for?


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the statues dont teach history, they idolize it


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
it's to say that a person is good, and his ideals are uh...whatever we say today!


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole idea is a statue is neutral on what the fukk to think about any given stance.


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you can project on current stances.


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why do we need a christopher pike statue?


[28-Jun-20 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, we need statues of literal slave traders even less


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That way you can say that George Washington would be against the "death tax", or that Robert E Lee was against "removing scars of northern aggression"


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Crow#5457
that is not something we should ever want in our culture


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Say, @Tumultuous, what do you think Mr. Lee's stance on that would be?


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Tumultuous#2853
> why would you ever want confederate soldiers to be important for american culture?
To remind people that there was disagreement between different groups of americans, and to honour the sacrifices that that conflict wrought on both sides, and to stand as a reminder that the side those statues represent are still welcomed back into the country.


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have books for that


[28-Jun-20 12:39 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Mr. Lee?


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay but one side owned slaves and fought almost entirely to keep that. And yes, Robert E Lee.


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Tumultuous#2853
We already have statues for that


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you think he'd say about removing the signs of the conflict?


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
About removing symbols of Confederate pride.


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Tumultuous#2853
The question is why you should expend the energy to interfere in a situation that's already going on.


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Tumultuous#2853
It is not that simple, Nebbie. I think part of you knows that


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Macarou#9574
Does the statue talk to you


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Tumultuous#2853
A small part. Buried deep inside


[28-Jun-20 12:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you not know what Lee said about monuments?


[28-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like someone doesn't know their history.


[28-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
We know Lee's stance on those things.


[28-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
one side sacrificed themselves for the right to own human beings, that is not an ideal to be celebrating, that is an ideal to be scorned


[28-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a simple stance: REMOVE IT ALL, FUKK THE CONFEDERACY'S LEGACY


[28-Jun-20 12:41 PM] Pontology#1010
What, dixie nationalism? I think there's a degree of non-racist dixie nationalism behind wanting to keep the statues.


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Do none of you honestly believe that you're over-simplifying things? Not even a bit?


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Robert E Lee made it very clear he didn't think that anything even reminding people of the civil war should be kept around.


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Tumultuous#2853
And, to be clear, you reside in the US?


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
When presented with a scarred tree hit by union cannonfire on a woman's property


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
he told her to "cut it down"


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
lee didn't even want to fight the civil war, he only did so out of a sense of duty


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
because it was a reminder of the war.


[28-Jun-20 12:42 PM] Pontology#1010
lee was more loyal to his state than the country iirc


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
He said that remembering and taking pride in a failed rebellion would simply hurt the country's healing.


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lee was exactly what all these "states' rights!" people claim they want.


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Pontology#1010
Which was a significant legacy of the civil war. Before the civil it, grammar was "The United States _are_"


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Crow#5457
also, that question isn't relevant to the current discussion


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
And he was against all this confederate symbolism.


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Pontology#1010
The civil war is what decided we're a country that states can't leave


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Pontology#1010
a single thing


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Pontology#1010
not a collective of states


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Wow. I think you guys actually might deserve civil war part 2.


[28-Jun-20 12:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Tumultuous#2853
If you don't understand by now, then I can't explain it.


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Crow#5457
because we aren't willing to reconciliate with racists, probably


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Pontology#1010
I don't understand


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Crow#5457
or fascists


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Crow#5457
or nazis


[28-Jun-20 12:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, there's no way to separate "Dixie nationalism" from racism.


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything the South wanted that it didn't get that triggered the civil war was about race.


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Crow#5457
basically no reconciliation with those who see certain subgroups of humanity as inferior


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't like new states being admitted that were anti-slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't like how slaves could become free by fleeing to states without slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't like how a Republican won the election with a plurality, and was anti-slavery.


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You do realize


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Tumultuous#2853
It is because of whatever mindset that led you to make that statement, Crow. The ignorance, willful misrepresentation, and bad faith smearing is a very bad sign for any hope of civil discourse


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ghandi was racist though


[28-Jun-20 12:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ghandi was really fucking racist


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Right?


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Yuri#4154
^


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Right, Gandhi was.


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that gandhi was also deeply racist and sexist


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/02/766083651/gandhi-is-deeply-revered-but-his-attitudes-on-race-and-sex-are-under-scrutiny

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Gandhi Is Deeply Revered, But His Attitudes On Race And Sex Are Und...
He has been called racist, sexist and not manly enough. But the spiritual and political leader — who would have turned 150 on Wednesday — is deeply revered in India and around the world.
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[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Yuri#4154
Are


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Again, wrongthink history information.


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Yuri#4154
Are you implying Churchill wasn't


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to find non-racist people in times before the VERY modern day is a chore, it turns out.


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
We've been over this.


[28-Jun-20 12:46 PM] Pontology#1010
So maybe we shouldn't be tearing them all down and they should be remembered how they were remembered before


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And hey, Che Guevara? Also super racist


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Churchill made it very clear on Indians he hated them and thought they were "beastly"


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
che guevara was racist in his early life before becoming a revolutionary


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Yes, in this conversation about Gandhi's lesser known opinions I have secretly REALLY been saying the Churchill wasn't racist. You got me. I can't get anything past you


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Pontology#1010
When Ghandi was a symbol of effective nonviolent resistance against oppression


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
he changed his mind later and became an anti-racist


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Tumultuous#2853
That is exactly what I was saying, yes


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"changed his mind"


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be building statues of people.


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stopped writing about it


[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 12:47 PM] Pontology#1010
Even Marx was a hardcore racist


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] Tumultuous#2853
Perfect understanding of everything. What neurological titans I am surrounded by.


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] Tumultuous#2853
While it is a privilege to be in your presence, I think it's time to go to sleep.


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you;re saying we should erect hitler statues to remember him by?


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] Yuri#4154
> We shouldn't be building statues of people.
^ this teebeeaich


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
> Given the lack of evidence for any statements of racism after he became a communist revolutionary, the hardline anti-racist stance of his ideology, his role in the Cuban Revolution that guaranteed the full rights of Afro-Cubans, and his public statements in support of the struggles of blacks in the United States and South Africa, it is safe to say that by the time he became internationally renown, Che Guevara was no racist.


[28-Jun-20 12:48 PM] Yuri#4154
Fuck statues in general


[28-Jun-20 12:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Che could've still been racist but just realized that it would be bad for the movement to be etc. etc.


[28-Jun-20 12:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I dunno why pointing out Marx was a racist is meant to do


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do people really think Marx matters?


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't build statues of Marx either.


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, that he's an icon or paragon or something?


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously I don't think there's like, *any* marxists who actually care about Marx as a person.


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Pontology#1010
That historical figures should be remembered for what matters


[28-Jun-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"You can't be left of center unless you idolize Marx!"


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Yuri#4154
I don't give a damn about Marx as a person


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Yuri#4154
At all


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Historical figures should be remembered as a whole


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
You know, this goes bakk to what I was saying earlier about why conservatives distrust gov't when the president's "liberal"


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives just want their Hitler, and a liberal Hitler.


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What they say and did should be separated and condemned or exhalted for what it was


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But not the person


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everything is about personal loyalty to leaders.


[28-Jun-20 12:52 PM] Pontology#1010
It's as irrelevant that Marx was racist as it is that Ghandi was racist, is my point


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives want iconic people to rally around.


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want statues.


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I know


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And don't really get why the left doesn't.


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Praise Jesus, ignore his teachings


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hah, that's a good one, I'm gonna use that.


[28-Jun-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
praise the founding fathers, ignore their teachings


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Pontology#1010
I think it's more accurate to call it cultural stability, with which existing iconography helps


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Otherwise we're like a ship with no anchor


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Pontology#1010
free-floating


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't want stability if it means being a racist asshole.


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's go be free-floating.


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Pontology#1010
And then a storm comes


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Let's build luxury gay automated space communism.


[28-Jun-20 12:54 PM] Yuri#4154
Boy, I sure can not wait to destroy le Western Civilisation


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Pontology#1010
and who knows where we'll end up. Probably worse than now, considering that the West now is the most prosperous and free-est in the history of the world.


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yuri the power was in you inside all along!


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Macarou#9574
With the power of anime and furries, right


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm slowly spreading the Trans Agenda all over this channel as we speak


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] ononim#8141
Okay I am back, what madness did I miss now


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Yuri#4154
By the end of the year, Western Civilisation will be 🦀


[28-Jun-20 12:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Trans Agenda is Yuri's butt.


[28-Jun-20 12:56 PM] ononim#8141
I want some of trans agenda, please


[28-Jun-20 12:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
You missed Mr. CALLING PEOPLE RACISTS IS JUST A WAY TO COERCE THEM INTO COMMUNISM going to bed right after the other guy posted a thing pointing out Marx was a massive racist.


[28-Jun-20 12:56 PM] Pontology#1010
You're taking that out of context.


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Pontology#1010
I explained why I posted it


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about why you posted it.


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm talking about how he suspiciously went to bed right after seeing it.


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Pontology#1010
oh, yes. I'm tired


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Pontology#1010
Haha, that is pretty funny, you're right


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Yuri#4154
Hi tired


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm Yuri


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
hi Yuri


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
I'm a crow


[28-Jun-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
caw

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[28-Jun-20 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
my caw kills channels


[28-Jun-20 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
:depressed:


[28-Jun-20 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53205720

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States re-impose curbs as US virus cases pass 2.5m
Florida and Texas reverse moves to reopen business amid warnings hospitals may soon be overwhelmed.
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[28-Jun-20 01:01 PM] Crow#5457
at least states will listen when their hospitals start screaming that they're nearing capacity and can't handle much more


[28-Jun-20 01:01 PM] Yuri#4154
In other news


[28-Jun-20 01:01 PM] Yuri#4154

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[28-Jun-20 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Jun-20 01:01 PM] Yuri#4154
🦀🦀🦀 GLINNER IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀


[28-Jun-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
who's glinner


[28-Jun-20 01:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Glinner was canceling people and then got canceled


[28-Jun-20 01:02 PM] Pontology#1010
It's karma


[28-Jun-20 01:02 PM] Yuri#4154
Massive TERF


[28-Jun-20 01:02 PM] Yuri#4154
He immediately went on Mumsnet to complain


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Yuri#4154
At 3 am


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Crow#5457
oh, that was him?


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Yuri#4154
And they basically told him to fuck off


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Pontology#1010
This is why the left keeps losing, the "circular firing squad" as Obama called it


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Pontology#1010
You cannibalize your own


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Yuri#4154
In what fucking world is that clown on the left


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Pontology#1010
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] ononim#8141
he lost his fucking wife because he was adamant on spending all the time ranting on twiiter


[28-Jun-20 01:03 PM] Pontology#1010
He was at the forefront of trying to smear Count Dankula as a nazi


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Yuri#4154
TERFs aren't left wing


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
lost custody of the child because that;s all he done


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Pontology#1010
And arguing for censorship


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Yuri#4154
And buddying up with gamergaters


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
and now he lost his twitter because he couldn't stop harassing people


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] ononim#8141
Sad!


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Yuri#4154
While shitting on actual feminists


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Yuri#4154
So very left wing of him


[28-Jun-20 01:04 PM] Pontology#1010
Welp, he managed to get both the right and left to hate his guts


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Pontology#1010
kind of impressive if you ask me


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
Hopefully he doesn't come back this time


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] ononim#8141
@Yuri have you seen him making apology post on mumsnet because he sent drunk dick pics?


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
I think he made his own Twitter knock-off


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
Where every new account automatically follows him


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RivkaGheist/status/1276714067256729600?s=19

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[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
@ononim holy shit


[28-Jun-20 01:05 PM] Yuri#4154
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 01:06 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm

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[28-Jun-20 01:07 PM] Pontology#1010
Feminism is for females only?


[28-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Yuri#4154
According to TERFs, yes


[28-Jun-20 01:08 PM] Yuri#4154
Mumsnet has a _lot_ of TERFs


[28-Jun-20 01:12 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/journalist-sues-twitter-for-banning-her-over-women-arent-men-tweets/

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Journalist Sues Twitter for Banning Her over ‘Women Aren’t Men’ Twe...
Canadian writer Meghan Murphy on Monday filed a lawsuit against Twitter after she was banned from the platform over several tweets it said violated its rules.
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[28-Jun-20 01:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Most russian feminists I've met are pretty much same, "feminism is for females only" is what they said to me


[28-Jun-20 01:12 PM] ononim#8141
a lot of russian femenists are TERFs


[28-Jun-20 01:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Some literally told me "make your own feminism for men lmao"


[28-Jun-20 01:12 PM] Yuri#4154
Twitter also bans people for telling TERFs to fuck off


[28-Jun-20 01:13 PM] Yuri#4154
Reddit occasionally does too, for that matter


[28-Jun-20 01:13 PM] Yuri#4154
Social media was a mistake


[28-Jun-20 01:13 PM] ononim#8141
tho I d say they're less deranged than western ones because "the trans" is not 90% of what they talk about


[28-Jun-20 01:13 PM] Yuri#4154
A _fuckton_ of UK feminists are TERFs


[28-Jun-20 01:14 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
probably cuz there are still plenty of drunk wifebeaters in russia :smugcaddy:


[28-Jun-20 01:14 PM] Yuri#4154
UK is basically the TERF capital


[28-Jun-20 01:14 PM] Yuri#4154
~~god I cannot wait to fuck off from here~~


[28-Jun-20 01:15 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

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Three officers detained Kate Scottow, 38, at her home in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, before quizzing her at a police station about an argument with Stephanie Hayden on Twitter.
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[28-Jun-20 01:15 PM] Pontology#1010
UK is insane


[28-Jun-20 01:16 PM] Yuri#4154
>DailyFail


[28-Jun-20 01:16 PM] Yuri#4154
Ok


[28-Jun-20 01:16 PM] Yuri#4154
That shitrag isn't even good enough to be used as TP


[28-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/14/kate-scottow-stephanie-hayden-guilty-trans-woman-online-abuse-twitter-st-albans-hertfordshire/

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Trans woman wishes Twitter troll Kate Scottow ‘all the best’ after ...
Stephanie Hayden, a trans woman who was called a "racist" and a "pig in a wig" online, has won her case against Kate Scottow, the woman who targeted her.
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[28-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Pontology#1010
Ok. It's still not fake news.


[28-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
> Kate Scottow was found guilty of persistently making use of a public communications network to cause annoyance/inconvenience and anxiety to Hayden between September 2018 and May 2019 at St Albans Magistrates’ Court on February 14.


[28-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
so it sounds like a constant online harassment campaign, not a one-off thing


[28-Jun-20 01:17 PM] Yuri#4154
DailyFail? Making shit up?


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Yuri#4154
Impossible


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Pontology#1010
Oh heavens forbid, being annoying online. Arrest that woman!


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Pontology#1010
Jesus, to think the UK was the birthplace of free speech


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Yuri#4154
Are you familiar with the concept of online harassment?


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, you know, the thing that drives high school kids to commit suicide


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Yuri#4154
Though, yes


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Yuri#4154
UK is shit


[28-Jun-20 01:18 PM] Pontology#1010
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[28-Jun-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
> Scottow was given a two-year conditional discharge and ordered to pay £1,000 prosecution costs and a £21 victim surcharge.


[28-Jun-20 01:19 PM] Crow#5457
I like how this line makes it sound like there's a license for victimizing people online


[28-Jun-20 01:19 PM] Yuri#4154
Oi mayte


[28-Jun-20 01:19 PM] Yuri#4154
You have a loicence for that harassment?


[28-Jun-20 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
like there wouldn't have been a 21 pound surcharge if she'd had a license to victimize


[28-Jun-20 01:20 PM] Crow#5457
boomer energy tweet


[28-Jun-20 01:21 PM] Yuri#4154
Looks like satire


[28-Jun-20 01:21 PM] Yuri#4154
...I think


[28-Jun-20 01:21 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
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[28-Jun-20 01:21 PM] Yuri#4154
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[28-Jun-20 01:21 PM] Yuri#4154
Don't argue with me


[28-Jun-20 01:22 PM] Yuri#4154
Sweetie, go to your room


[28-Jun-20 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
.i 420


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[28-Jun-20 01:23 PM] ononim#8141
Curse the day the writers decided to make her rhyme *ALL THE TIME* instead of like, frequently or something


[28-Jun-20 01:24 PM] Yuri#4154
Zecora deserved better


[28-Jun-20 01:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
inb4 rapper Pony Life  Zecora


[28-Jun-20 01:24 PM] Pontology#1010
My Little Pony is race-realist, discuss.
Zebras = Africans (obviously)
Buffalo = Amerindians (obviously)
Eastern Unicorns = East-Asians
Saddle Arabians = Arabs
Ponies = \_\_\_\_\_ (only one option left)


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
... "eastern" unicorns?


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
wat


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Yuri#4154
I really hope you used that term ironically


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Yuri#4154
Can't tell cause I'm tired shush


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
also, the correct term is "native americans"


[28-Jun-20 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
the natives of the americas were never indians


[28-Jun-20 01:26 PM] ononim#8141
@Pontology obviously iranians and indians


[28-Jun-20 01:27 PM] Pontology#1010
Eastern unicorns:

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[28-Jun-20 01:27 PM] Pontology#1010
@Crow Academically, the correct term is Amerindian

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[28-Jun-20 01:28 PM] Yuri#4154
And this is where I make a lewd joke about the long horns


[28-Jun-20 01:28 PM] Yuri#4154
Or I would


[28-Jun-20 01:28 PM] Yuri#4154
But I'm sleepy


[28-Jun-20 01:29 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, we kinda already went over how academia was massively racist at one point


[28-Jun-20 01:30 PM] Pontology#1010
You need a single word to refer to the indigenous peoples of the Americas


[28-Jun-20 01:30 PM] Pontology#1010
"Amerindian" is what was decided upon


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
the problem is that the natives have never once referred to themselves as "indians"


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Pontology#1010
It's not like any of the Amerindian ethnic groups had a better word, because they had none


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Pontology#1010
They just had words for their tribes


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Pontology#1010
Not for all Amerindians collectively


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Crow#5457
the word that was chosen to refer to natives of the americas was based on the earliest misconception by columbus that he had landed in india


[28-Jun-20 01:31 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes of course


[28-Jun-20 01:32 PM] Pontology#1010
And now "Amerindian" means the indigenous peoples of the Americas, and there isn't any good single-word alternative


[28-Jun-20 01:32 PM] Pontology#1010
including in any other language


[28-Jun-20 01:32 PM] Crow#5457
and you don't see any problem with referring to people by a word they find offensive because they never called themselves that?


[28-Jun-20 01:33 PM] Pontology#1010
American Indians prefer the word Indian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh88fVP2FWQ

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[28-Jun-20 01:33 PM] Pontology#1010
They don't have any word for the indigenous tribes collectively


[28-Jun-20 01:34 PM] Pontology#1010
So went with what europeans called them


[28-Jun-20 01:34 PM] Pontology#1010
As Grey discusses, the closer people live to a reservation, the more likely they are to call them Indians, since people who actually know natives know that's what they prefer


[28-Jun-20 01:59 PM] ononim#8141
I'd say the more nuanced take of this video would be "some native people and nations of US prefer term Indian to Native American because that they've been called for centuries, whilse some prefer Native American" iirc


[28-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Pontology#1010
It's more than just some


[28-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Pontology#1010
The word "Indian" is used freely and without reservation in the reservations (haha)


[28-Jun-20 02:09 PM] Pontology#1010
It's an overwhelming majority


[28-Jun-20 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-national-security-officials-question-trump-russian-bounty-denial-2020-6

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[28-Jun-20 02:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Russia placed a bounty on the heads of US troops in Afghanistan

How that really works? :ponythinking:


[28-Jun-20 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, that kind of thing's how we got the taliban in the first place


[28-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Taliban 2 electric boogaloo


[28-Jun-20 03:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's amazing how arming rebels with the goal of destabilizing a region to your advantage *consistently* backfires when, a couple years after you've toppled the government they were rebelling against, you suddenly find the region gripped with instability and under the control of a bunch of armed former rebels


[28-Jun-20 03:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yet it still happens because it's like imperialism without all the nasty business of having to send your own troops in to keep the colony in check *oh WAIT.*


[28-Jun-20 03:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, sometimes I wonder just how different the world would've been if gas-powered automobiles hadn't caught on and we instead had tried to innovate on the tech it outstripped


[28-Jun-20 03:43 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ya see


[28-Jun-20 03:43 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is America


[28-Jun-20 03:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/CBR/status/1276929361904574465

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[28-Jun-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Jun-20 03:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Lori Hendry? Of FreedomInAmericaRadio.com? Admitting to vandalism? Say it ain't so

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[28-Jun-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who she is


[28-Jun-20 03:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Placing sticker on cars=vandalism?


[28-Jun-20 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes indeed, in many, many locations


[28-Jun-20 03:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is considered illegal and in some cases even property damage, as if charges are pressed you can be held liable for any damage that occurs in removing the sticker


[28-Jun-20 03:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That said, I am *somewhat* doubtful that this even happened


[28-Jun-20 03:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Reminds me an awful lot of all the pictures of trump signs being run over that turned out to be taken by trump supporters running over the signs themselves


[28-Jun-20 03:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but let's not forget that, true or not, what she's describing *is* illegal and the POTUS retweeted it, effectively encouraging his followers to copycat this


[28-Jun-20 04:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Her story is true - I was the car


[28-Jun-20 04:04 PM] Yuri#4154
/s


[28-Jun-20 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://globalnews.ca/news/7111094/coronavirus-scientists-health-problems/

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Risk of never fully recovering after coronavirus ‘very real,’ scien...
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[28-Jun-20 04:09 PM] Yuri#4154
Can we just skip to 2021


[28-Jun-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think we want to


[28-Jun-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if 2021 is worse?


[28-Jun-20 04:09 PM] Macarou#9574
Skip to the 41st millennium.


[28-Jun-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fast forward to star trek time


[28-Jun-20 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/jhX1c1m sound

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Trump wasn't kidding about slowing down testing.
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[28-Jun-20 04:18 PM] Pontology#1010
The absolute state of /mlp/

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[28-Jun-20 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Jun-20 05:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-dead-1-injured-breonna-taylor-protest-park-kentucky-n1232351

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1 dead, 1 injured at Breonna Taylor protest park in Kentucky
"It is a tragedy that this area of peaceful protest is now a crime scene," Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer tweeted.
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[28-Jun-20 05:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fucking Alt right terrorest.


[28-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Pontology#1010
Probably, but not confirmed yet


[28-Jun-20 05:11 PM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Free Palestine


[28-Jun-20 05:20 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
#RadioFreePalestine


[28-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Can Israel keep the land it already has?


[28-Jun-20 05:26 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.profgalloway.com/higher-ed-enough-already

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[28-Jun-20 05:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fun question. The land Israel already has isn't even the same depending on who you ask


[28-Jun-20 05:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, it's not as though the disputed area was beyond their borders and they just decided to annex it, they overlapped with existing groups in the region - and depending on which group you ask, that overlap ranges from a couple hundred square miles to the entirety of the nation


[28-Jun-20 05:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Part of the reason why peace treaties inevitably break down is that palestine just doesn't want to play ball with the west because to them, we kinda just carved out a really big, really important geographical area and they just don't wanna compromise


[28-Jun-20 05:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Add a group of similarly like-minded Israelis who are trying to manifest destiny their way into taking over the area completely, and it's less that both of them are justified and more that this petty feud is a deadly one. So, for Trump's middle-east expert Jared Kushner to try to solve this conflict that dates back into biblical times by literally just capitulating to Israel 100%


[28-Jun-20 05:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not at *all* surprised that things are getting really spicy now


[28-Jun-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In regards to previous developments, there's no such thing as "race realism" as a term -- it's just bog standard racism and its myriad of pseudoscientific justifications


[28-Jun-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Race realism" is on the same level as flat earthers calling their ramblings "the truth"

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[28-Jun-20 05:54 PM] RYDE#8862
I'm not happy with politics. It just made me feel uncertain for our future and as a species together. I want all of this to stop.


[28-Jun-20 06:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-video-supporter-white-power-good-people-2020-6

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[28-Jun-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[28-Jun-20 06:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Since when?


[28-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Sure, race realism is like flat earth.

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[28-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Definitely not something that a principal component analysis of human genetic diversity from the Stanford Department of Genetics clearly shows.


[28-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Definitely not something that doctors need to know to not _kill people_
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/race-matters-when-a-patient-needs-a-stem-cell-or-marrow-transplant/2013/08/05/51abdf04-f2d9-11e2-ae43-b31dc363c3bf_story.html


[28-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Since we can't even donate bone marrow cross-racially


[28-Jun-20 07:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Or the body rejects it.


[28-Jun-20 07:57 PM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 If doctors weren't race realists, they would literally kill people ^


[28-Jun-20 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[28-Jun-20 08:00 PM] Pontology#1010
That link.
> _Race matters when a patient needs a stem cell or bone marrow transplant_


[28-Jun-20 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please don't start talking about IQ next


[28-Jun-20 08:01 PM] Pontology#1010
I wasn't going to.


[28-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Pontology#1010
But it's clear you're just afraid of reality due to a fear of what policy prescriptions you think you would support if you believed what doctors must believe to not accidentally hurt people.


[28-Jun-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By what standards are specific genetic groups important for a single task "races"?


[28-Jun-20 08:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Just because race is real and it medically matters doesn't mean you'll suddenly want to kill everyone outside your race. That's just silly.


[28-Jun-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If it was real, it'd justify a lot of heinous shit such as colonialism, racial profiling, police brutality...


[28-Jun-20 08:04 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm a race realist and I oppose all of those


[28-Jun-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, sure, congrats


[28-Jun-20 08:05 PM] Pontology#1010
Colonialism destroys ethnic diversity and indigenous lifestyles, displacing and oppressing native peoples


[28-Jun-20 08:06 PM] Pontology#1010
Colonialism does not respect national borders.


[28-Jun-20 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
General genetic group patterns are real, yes, but they do not justify or make a base for broad generalizations about civilization


[28-Jun-20 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, there is no such thing as "respecting national borders", all borders are a product of domination schemes, colonialism, and homogeneization


[28-Jun-20 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In short, all borders are illegitimate


[28-Jun-20 08:07 PM] Pontology#1010
One of the primary justifications for colonialism was that the natives didn't have a concept of borders...


[28-Jun-20 08:08 PM] Pontology#1010
So it was ok. If they weren't in a particular area due a seasonal migration, you can just set up a city there


[28-Jun-20 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's not what i'm implying


[28-Jun-20 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What i'm implying is that borders are a direct consequence of capitalism as a social phenomenon


[28-Jun-20 08:09 PM] Pontology#1010
International socialism, great


[28-Jun-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[28-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Pontology#1010
International socialism is just a type of cultural imperialism


[28-Jun-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao sure


[28-Jun-20 08:10 PM] Pontology#1010
Tell that to the nations the USSR subjugated into itself


[28-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Pontology#1010
It's imposing an artificial outside idea and concept on indigenous peoples of foreign lands


[28-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Pontology#1010
At least that's what the USSR did


[28-Jun-20 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USSR was not communist much less internationalist


[28-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Pontology#1010
It was their end goal and the reason they kept expanding and fomenting communist revolutions around the world


[28-Jun-20 08:12 PM] Pontology#1010
They definitely weren't national bolshevik


[28-Jun-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They had classes, a form of capital commodity accumulation, and a drive for ramping up production


[28-Jun-20 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Amadeo Bordiga makes a comprehensible case for not calling the USSR a communist entity


[28-Jun-20 08:13 PM] Pontology#1010
There are very few things I respect about the Soviet regime, but one of them is that they taught race realism in their high schools in biology classes, racial anthropology. They knew they didn't have to lie about human biodiversity to convince people of their ideology.


[28-Jun-20 08:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is your source for that?


[28-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Pontology#1010
A Ukrainian friend who learned it in his high school, which uses old textbooks from when it was Soviet


[28-Jun-20 08:14 PM] Pontology#1010
He could be lying, but I'd be surprised


[28-Jun-20 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If those are from the early-to-mid Stalin era, then maybe, yes


[28-Jun-20 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the nazi invasion left a deep scar in Soviet society that made them adverse to any kind of "scientific racism"


[28-Jun-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
On why the USSR would never be willing or able to actually export communist revolution after the 1920's: https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm


[28-Jun-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And, to paraphrase Marx, communism is a movement of the proletariat against the bourgeoisie for control over the means of production and abolishment of the latter class, not a mythical struggle between nations


[28-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Pontology#1010
The left in America is absolutely obsessed with race


[28-Jun-20 08:18 PM] Pontology#1010
And I'm actually becoming rather glad about it


[28-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Pontology#1010
Because it keeps them from going actually socialist


[28-Jun-20 08:19 PM] Pontology#1010
Instead, all their mental energy is focused on canceling syrup


[28-Jun-20 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[28-Jun-20 08:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are you talking about


[28-Jun-20 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a difference between actual communists and wannabe leftists who believe internet squabbling constitutes class struggle


[28-Jun-20 08:20 PM] Pontology#1010
Just how those like you are much, much more dangerous for my country than the current leftist tide here in America


[28-Jun-20 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, communists are dangerous for all artificial bourgeois regimes in the world, that's the intent


[28-Jun-20 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Want a cookie for understanding?


[28-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Pontology#1010
I'll be your friend until the revolution and kulaks like me would go to the gulag


[28-Jun-20 08:22 PM] Pontology#1010
Until then, I'll accept your cookie if you cum on it.


[28-Jun-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communist revolutionaries wouldn't send you to the gulag, they'd just shoot you unless you proved your willingness to join the revolt. Gulags were a byproduct of the material circumstances the Soviet Union found itself in -- Stalin and the party needed some form of cheap labor to industrialize their backwards country, and slave labor in the gulags was part of their response to it


[28-Jun-20 08:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Wew, you are unapologetic and honest. I like that.


[28-Jun-20 08:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Racism is something that has shaped every part of American culture, of course we can't separate it from anything


[28-Jun-20 08:27 PM] Pontology#1010
Good, because keeping the flames of racism or anti-racism alive (either one) prevents the colorblind class struggle


[28-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Pontology#1010
People like the anti-racist activist Robin DiAngelo are doing marvelously at this with her book on White Fragility


[28-Jun-20 08:28 PM] Pontology#1010
In which she explicitly advocates white collective consciousness etc

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[28-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Pontology#1010
And forming white-only meetings


[28-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Pontology#1010
To address racism


[28-Jun-20 08:29 PM] Pontology#1010
She says the white-only meetings would only be "temporary segregation"


[28-Jun-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I do firmly believe it's a ploy to divide the working class -- however, legitimate action and discourse by African American people in favor of proletarizarion must be upheld imo


[28-Jun-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Alongside immigrant workers -- they're proles too


[28-Jun-20 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The point is to remove barriers preventing minorities and marginalized groups from becoming proletarian, thus incorporating them into the proletariat and increasing the size and voice of such class


[28-Jun-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jun-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way, "national bolshevism" is a farce


[28-Jun-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just another product in the supermarket of ideologies


[28-Jun-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
imagine wanting all your sweaty breath germs mashed into your eyeballs as you sleep

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[28-Jun-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
big brain time


[28-Jun-20 08:33 PM] Pontology#1010

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[28-Jun-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks, now my dog is barking


[28-Jun-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jun-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Nebbie wake up


[28-Jun-20 08:35 PM] wren#0114
you laugh now, but when aliens come with space germs, the US will be the only ones with herd immunity because our weak will already have been culled


[28-Jun-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
grab a brush and put a little makeup


[28-Jun-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
why'd you leave the keys upon the table?!


[28-Jun-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll just disengage until the mods do anything


[28-Jun-20 08:36 PM] wren#0114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtAhISkoJZc

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chop suey but everything is a table
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[28-Jun-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I keep hearing keys as kids "why'd you leave your kids up on the table?"


[28-Jun-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
all right that's enough


[28-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
please don't post that shit


[28-Jun-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically shitposting rule #0


[28-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I cry


[28-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When tables deserve to


[28-Jun-20 08:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DIIIIIIEEEE


[28-Jun-20 09:11 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://i.redd.it/0qpx06778o751.jpg
@byte[] I hate it

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[28-Jun-20 09:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/504757-trump-nominates-long-time-acting-head-of-land-management-bureau-as

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[28-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SheriffTNehls/status/1276646406682484736

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A US Postal worker was just caught on video throwing a stack of my campaign mailers in a dumpster. Some patriots nearby heard a noise when she tossed them in & went to investigate. They found a stack of them and called me. No wonder people are skeptical of mail in voting. htt...
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[28-Jun-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
seems legit


[28-Jun-20 09:27 PM] wren#0114
😬


[28-Jun-20 09:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, that's clearly illegal and all, but I'm immediately raising my hackles at the "patriots" dogwhistle used to describe the bystanders and the immediate jump to mail-in voting


[28-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's a bunch of flyers


[28-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
for all we know, he only paid for a certain number of flyers to be sent, but sent way more than he paid for


[28-Jun-20 09:43 PM] Crow#5457
apparently someone pointed that out in the replies too https://twitter.com/FullIverson/status/1277022683964805122

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@Individual_Intv @SheriffTNehls What do they do with excess flyers when their route ends. Did you think they return 20 copies like these to the owner ?
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[28-Jun-20 09:44 PM] wren#0114
I'd hope they'd be delivered and re-mailed in as normal-looking envelopes as possible


[28-Jun-20 09:44 PM] wren#0114
never done mail in voting myself before


[28-Jun-20 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
that isn't normal mail, they don't put flyers like those in envelopes


[28-Jun-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
he's claiming throwing out a stack of political adverts (the bulk stuff they put in everyone's mailboxes) is the same as throwing out mail in ballots


[28-Jun-20 09:46 PM] wren#0114
o


[28-Jun-20 09:46 PM] wren#0114
lmao


[28-Jun-20 09:47 PM] wren#0114
it's still pretty dirty tbh


[28-Jun-20 09:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or, as Crow pointed out, even *I* might've been wrong about anything illegal happening here at all


[28-Jun-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
seems kinda lit tbh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271024005283184641/726880232409399457/20200628_122101.jpg

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[28-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
LGTM, let's do this bitch.


[28-Jun-20 09:51 PM] wren#0114
what does publicly financed campaigns mean


[28-Jun-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means when you run for office, being a millionnaire doesn't help you.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And being poor doesn't hurt you.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you can work your normal job as you do so.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the gov't pays for campaign advertising, same as for your opponent.


[28-Jun-20 09:52 PM] wren#0114
sounds :lewd:


[28-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically it's what the right really fears.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that having shittons of money isn't basically an auto-win.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
And actual leftists who are against massive wealth inequality could thus become politicians.


[28-Jun-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
the right (including democrats)


[28-Jun-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
AOC is a fluke, but she wouldn't be with public funding for campaigning.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Democrats are starting to warm to the idea.


[28-Jun-20 09:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think I've *yet* seen a strawman "this is what the left really wants" boogeyman that sounds bad at all, unless it's a wholesale fabrication like death panels


[28-Jun-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
sanders in the white van with "free healthcare" spraypainted on the side?


[28-Jun-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
sign me tf up


[28-Jun-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think AOC is a fluke


[28-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
like I said, it depends on what's going on, it could possibly be that the mailperson is being malicious, but it could also be something as simple as having too many flyers


[28-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
and I haven't even brought up the fact that it might be falsified


[28-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's becoming a fundraising powerhouse who is the first major socialist in power really


[28-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
the only image shown is a single flyer in the trash


[28-Jun-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
what, ocasio-cortez isn't socialist


[28-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
I'd say she's the closest thing to a socialist there is in the US government, but she isn't socialist


[28-Jun-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Didn't you know, Crow? Roosevelt is a socialist now


[28-Jun-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, we've had presidents a bit further to the left than she is


[28-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
FDR absolutely was a socialist


[28-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
AOC is a fluke because under normal conditions, what she does leads to failure cause advertising beats the person running like her.


[28-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone like her can only win in certain areas with the current setup.


[28-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
First major socialist other than FDR


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean in safe districts?


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
I mean in many areas, the fight is considered so important, that the Republican candidate will just barrage with ads.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ads do sadly work.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
They swing a tight race.


[28-Jun-20 10:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, that's why Mike Bloomberg is the presumptive Democratic nominee


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
That wasn't a tight race.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
he still got more delegates than most candidates who had better polling.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] wren#0114
superdelegates seem like a problem to me


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ads bought him delegates.


[28-Jun-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Superdelegates are now only used as tiebreakers.


[28-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
(Bernie made it clear that reusing them to stakk the dekk would not be tolerated, so rules got changed)


[28-Jun-20 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[28-Jun-20 10:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One is "honorary whites" doing the violent protest, the other is brown people


[28-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's the raised fist that signals to them to say it's not okay, mostly.


[28-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Pontology#1010
The floyd protests have been much more violent. So far at least 24 deaths, vs 2 in the year+ that hong kong has been going on


[28-Jun-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
They see it as promoting whatever bullshit got slapped on to the Black Panthers.


[28-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/John_Carlos%2C_Tommie_Smith%2C_Peter_Norman_1968cr.jpg

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[28-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that this not only ruined the life of the gold and bronze medalists, but the silver one too


[28-Jun-20 10:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What the fuck did people expect him to do?


[28-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Pontology#1010
Floyd riots average 0.8 deaths/day. Hong Kong riots average 0.005 deaths/day. So these are .8/.005 = 160x more violent.


[28-Jun-20 10:13 PM] Pontology#1010
So honestly doesn't seem like a straightforward equivalence.


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
So what you're saying is


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hong Kong is better about police not murdering people?


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, maybe we should reform the police.


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Pontology#1010
Almost none of those deaths are due to police


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] wren#0114
these aren't even comparable


[28-Jun-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me where you got your 24 deaths from, then.


[28-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Pontology#1010
Wikipedia, which used to list every single one


[28-Jun-20 10:18 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure it's still in the archives


[28-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay and go over them, then.


[28-Jun-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tell us how they were the fault of the protestors or similar.


[28-Jun-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9db607182deeb796c73612819a55afb5

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LONDON (AP) — The Rolling Stones are threatening President Donald Trump with legal action for using their songs at his rallies despite cease-and-desist directives. The Stones said in a...
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[28-Jun-20 10:44 PM] wren#0114
if only this would blow up and inadvertently lead to less restrictive copyright somehow


[28-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not really possible because it's a political thing.


[28-Jun-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, politicians should be given stricter copyright rules.


[28-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Using someone's stuff for your campaign is an issue.


[28-Jun-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It should be the norm that if you don't get permission, you don't use songs at rallies.


[28-Jun-20 10:59 PM] wren#0114
tbh


[28-Jun-20 10:59 PM] wren#0114
that's a pretty big impact on a brand


[28-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes. Tying someone's brand to your politics is a problem.


[28-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/OnlyInLVNV/status/1276527237743833089

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[28-Jun-20 11:55 PM] illumnious#7938
You know what, fuck America


[28-Jun-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[28-Jun-20 11:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Let's go to Canada, it maybe cold as fuck but it's nice


[28-Jun-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really should apply for a passport


[28-Jun-20 11:59 PM] wren#0114
I'm waiting for global warming so I can start the antarctic empire


[28-Jun-20 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Same


[28-Jun-20 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm going to date one soon lol


[29-Jun-20 12:00 AM] wren#0114
date what, a penguin?


[29-Jun-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd hitch hike, but given where i live that might result in death by redneck


[29-Jun-20 12:01 AM] illumnious#7938
Canadian or European


[29-Jun-20 12:02 AM] illumnious#7938
But good one @wren


[29-Jun-20 12:31 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jun-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jun-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Booker ahead of McGrath in KY primary


[29-Jun-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whichever has the best chances against McTurtle I hope wins


[29-Jun-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jessiedesigngal/status/1277126019246260224

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[29-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McConnell will still win, and maybe still be Majority Leader


[29-Jun-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Though the odds of Minority Leader are slighter higher


[29-Jun-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOty4J1b0FU

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The Greatest Generation sacrificed everything for our country. But Donald Trump wants to sacrifice them for the economy when they're in their greatest time of need.
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[29-Jun-20 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
@Itsthinking iirc he was ruined by white Australian gov, and the gold and bronze medalist even attended his funereal


[29-Jun-20 01:44 AM] ononim#8141
Also


[29-Jun-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
>come back to one of the guys from earlier who defended slaver statues erected half a century after the event because "otherwise how people will remember history!" and "statues rpresent important values!"(which?) openly being "race realist" and fascist


[29-Jun-20 01:49 AM] ononim#8141
Imagine My Shlong.mp4


[29-Jun-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, the values of supporting whatever we think some slaver thought.


[29-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, this is basically the "atheism means no morality" argument.


[29-Jun-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Except that God is replaced with dead white supremacists.


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
HOW WILL WE BE MORAL IF WE DON'T WORSHIP DEAD PEOPLE WHO WERE RACIST?????????


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guys guys, I just got word.


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need to build a statue of Epstein.


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a little blakk kid on his lap.


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the only way to remember history.


[29-Jun-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the only way to hav a moral compass.


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav to make offerings to it twice a year, too.


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
if we don't build a statue of Epstein


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
how will we remember?


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
How will we value anything?


[29-Jun-20 01:53 AM] ononim#8141
Saddened how no person in Central and Eastern Europe knows about Hitler and Stlain and atrocities they wrought


[29-Jun-20 01:54 AM] ononim#8141
Zero awareness about Saddam in Iraq too


[29-Jun-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pales in comparison to the tragedy of Israel not having statues of all the people that screwed it over.


[29-Jun-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just a crying shame that they hav no idea about the Roman occupation or King Herod.


[29-Jun-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, Moses would be very sad if he saw how few statues there are of Ramses II in Israel, @ononim


[29-Jun-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's a shame germany forgot all about hitler and the nazi soldiers with no statues to teach them


[29-Jun-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But gosh, it sure is a good thing we made all these statues of Jesus, just like he wanted, to make sure to remember we follow his teachings exactly


[29-Jun-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's just like jesus always said: If you help the homeless, you're a dirty liberal who is polluting the city with the unclean!


[29-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget the Virgin Mary, standing over my town to remind us all we're sinners for having sex and should just die.


[29-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
(second largest statue in the US)


[29-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
(90 feet tall, you can barely see it cause it's atop a 1000 foot ridge)


[29-Jun-20 02:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well actually, right now I can't see it at all outside my window. Fog.


[29-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
did they get kicked or are they just asleep


[29-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that a lot of the work of the Inquisition was "reminding" people not to make jokes about the Virgin Mary


[29-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who, Pont and Tumult?


[29-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah


[29-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, remember Tumult's whole thing about how "racism" is just a cudgel to get people to be communist to avoid being?


[29-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pont posted a thing saying Marx was a massive racist.


[29-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tumult immediately said he was going to bed.


[29-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure when Pont stopped posting.


[29-Jun-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems to come and go


[29-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Honahue#0656
Marx definatly could sound like a massive racist if you really want to quote mine his work, people in the 1800's weren't using modern "woke" language


[29-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no, Marx actually was racist.


[29-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Against Jews, mostly.


[29-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Honahue#0656
he was a jew and his essay on the Jewish question isn't about why jews are bad


[29-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dubious. I think he wanted Jews to cut ties with their culture to my understanding.


[29-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Honahue#0656
he was critiquing another Young Hegalian's work that did have that opinion, Marx said that the "jew" as imagined as a huckster would vanish without the ability to be a huckster there's no essense of Jew that makes them the right wings favorite "happy merchant" meme


[29-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Honahue#0656
this is obviously very simplified


[29-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/


[29-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Honahue#0656
here's the text it's not a huge novel of a read


[29-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Honahue#0656
I like Ben Burgis' observation that a lot of misinformation about people could be attributed to the fact that back "in the good ol' days" if you wanted to quote mine someone to make them look bad you had to pick up a physical book and at least skim it a bit to find quotes and in the process you might get an understanding of the book. With the internet you can just ctrl-f to find some juicy bits


[29-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Marx wanted secular Judaism?


[29-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think people need to remember that Marx was kind of a failure as a human being


[29-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His home was a dumpster and his family hated him


[29-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He just had the acuity to write down some half decent thoughts and go around some cities to soapbox about them


[29-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A man that hated Mondays so much he came up with an ideology so he wouldn't have to work

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[29-Jun-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Mondays at work are nice


[29-Jun-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Always the quietest day


[29-Jun-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
people are hung over / call in sick a lot


[29-Jun-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
fewer tickets to deal with


[29-Jun-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
same vibe for friday evenings


[29-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mondays are either sprint planning or "free work" here
(free work being self defined projects outside of backlog)


[29-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fridays are heck if you're above a certain rung of the ladder, direction or publishing always schedule some important meeting at 6 because they know people should be free


[29-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mondays are the start of a week, you can make of it anything you want


[29-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
GTA VI looking great

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[29-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's aggravated assault


[29-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy has already been doxed


[29-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Synfag#9241
as always


[29-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't point guns at people


[29-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's illegal


[29-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's hard not to be when you own a famous historical mansion locals recognize


[29-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Synfag#9241
also, big doubt on that building being theirs


[29-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
tbh they both look like they've never held a gun in their lives before


[29-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It apparently is indeed their house


[29-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Synfag#9241
but the woman radiates so much *Karen* vibes


[29-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Crow#5457
she's waving it around like a squirt gun, he's not even closed to prepared to shoulder the recoil


[29-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Synfag#9241
that pistol will hit her face


[29-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Synfag#9241
if she pulls the trigger


[29-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
it's probably a .22, the recoil isn't that big of a deal unless it's long


[29-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would still fly out of her hand tho


[29-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Synfag#9241
they're both standing there barefoot


[29-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They...they're dressed like they're about to play golf.


[29-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT WITH NO SHOES


[29-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyway yeah


[29-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Buy and carry a gun if you want to


[29-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But don't aim it at people


[29-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless you genuinely intend to shoot them for a very valid reason


[29-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[29-Jun-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, it would be good for his image, he could say he was unfairly taken from the White House, etc


[29-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I find that highly unlikely


[29-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But oddly in character


[29-Jun-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"I DIDN'T LOSE, I QUIT, DECK WAS STACKED, SWAMP!"


[29-Jun-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
CHINA!


[29-Jun-20 04:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"I am the best at losing. Nobody loses better than me"


[29-Jun-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I don;t think he;d quit, but he might feign the thought to get sympathy support from his base


[29-Jun-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the victim card is also in character for him


[29-Jun-20 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though knowing him it would be more of a 10 minute rambling at a rally about how the do nothing democrats want him to quit, so he might as well quit, and then him going "But you guys wouldn;t want me to quit" I shouldn;t quit! I should stick it to the lame liberals!" and then his audience cheers


[29-Jun-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then he goes on a 20 minute rant about going down a flight of stairs or some shit


[29-Jun-20 04:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And then the 7 gun salute occurs


[29-Jun-20 04:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
By the 7 guns are concealed carry guns from the crowd


[29-Jun-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he actually doesnt let people carry guns into his rally


[29-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got another 20+ years of being on TV and promoting his family


[29-Jun-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I expect 2024 to be Harris vs. Ivanka Trump


[29-Jun-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i expect 2024 to be a burning mess of destroyed cities


[29-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't see Trump calling it quits


[29-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's already been pushing the voter fraud stuff since before he got elected


[29-Jun-20 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't either


[29-Jun-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
if he loses he'll just blame it on mail in voting


[29-Jun-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If he quits he looks like a quitter, not matter the excuse


[29-Jun-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me might fake it for a moment to make a come back to rally his base morale, but he;d never actually quit


[29-Jun-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus, quitting means he'll _for sure_ be fucked once justice catches up to him


[29-Jun-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If he stays in the running at worst he delays all the cases by 4 years, at best he gets them dismissed or just makes it illegal to ever question a president, including former


[29-Jun-20 04:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point the presidency is his safe space, he can't afford to lose it


[29-Jun-20 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the presidency is also probably the only thing protecting his children as well


[29-Jun-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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[29-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
officially the highest his disapproval rating's ever been


[29-Jun-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
the last time it was that high, it was 56% disaprove, 39.3% approve, this time it's 56.1% disapprove, 40.6% approve


[29-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Crow#5457
I guess that means everyone who's been sitting on the fence is finally chosing their sides


[29-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't get confident


[29-Jun-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Look at how they poll those things


[29-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1-2k people at a time


[29-Jun-20 04:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm not gonna get my hopes up with polls until atleast november 1st


[29-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been called for polls multiple times and I generally tell them "not interested"


[29-Jun-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the last time poll hype happened for someone we got trump instead


[29-Jun-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People that eagerly answer to polls aren't all that representative


[29-Jun-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Polls have basically been accurate since 2018


[29-Jun-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
Nate Silver's models are top tier


[29-Jun-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
>>2319771


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[29-Jun-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jun-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jun-20 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/mississippi-lawmakers-vote-to-remove-confederate-icon-from-state-flag.html

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[29-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
so is it just gonna be the flag of yugoslavia?


[29-Jun-20 09:21 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia

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Yugoslavia (; Serbo-Croatian: Jugoslavija / Југославија [juɡǒslaːʋija]; Slovene: Jugoslavija [juɡɔˈslàːʋija]; Macedonian: Југославија [juɡɔˈsɫavija]; lit. '"Southern Slav Land"') was a country in Southeastern and Central Europe for most of the 20th century. It came into existe...
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[29-Jun-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, mississippian yugoslavia


[29-Jun-20 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53215106

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Poland election heads for second round - exit poll
President Andrzej Duda finishes first but without enough votes to win outright, exit polls indicate.
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[29-Jun-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[29-Jun-20 10:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Aurora Police Department did not use tear gas last night during the protest.  

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[29-Jun-20 11:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
How are the stonks now?


[29-Jun-20 11:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
People says it will bounce up at least 5% today


[29-Jun-20 01:10 PM] Synfag#9241
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[29-Jun-20 01:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-us-intel-afghanistan-troops-russian-bounty-report-credible-2020-6

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[29-Jun-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-hospitals-expand-icu-capacity-rush-coronavirus-spike-2020-6

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Texas hospitals are rushing to expand their ICU capacity, at the fr...
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[29-Jun-20 01:34 PM] ononim#8141
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[29-Jun-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-struggles-to-find-better-biden-nickname-than-sleepy-axios-2020-6

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Trump's campaign is struggling to find a more damaging nickname for...
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[29-Jun-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-issues-arrest-warrant-donald-trump-killing-qassem-soleimani-interpol-2020-6

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Iran has issued an arrest warrant for Trump over the killing of Qas...
Iran has called for the arrest of Donald Trump and 35 other US political and military figures for their role in the US drone strike on Soleimani.
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[29-Jun-20 03:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
about the time that event resurfaces


[29-Jun-20 03:42 PM] Synfag#9241

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[29-Jun-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/504806-filibuster-reform-gains-steam-with-democrats

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Filibuster reform gains steam with Democrats
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[29-Jun-20 04:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it is a good reminder before elections anyways


[29-Jun-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-strikes-down-louisiana-abortion-restriction-roberts-sides-liberal-justices-1511874


[29-Jun-20 05:12 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Is iran tech level way below ours


[29-Jun-20 05:20 PM] Synfag#9241
it's like with North Korea


[29-Jun-20 05:21 PM] Synfag#9241
financial support and advancements in tech is heavily concentrated on certain departments


[29-Jun-20 05:22 PM] Synfag#9241
for all we know
Iran has win 98 PCs in their offices
but large server farms in the military


[29-Jun-20 05:24 PM] wren#0114
iran has some advanced torpedo tech


[29-Jun-20 05:24 PM] Synfag#9241
of course it's the military tech that get special treatment


[29-Jun-20 05:25 PM] wren#0114
at least, of the supercavitating type (faster underwater). idk about stuff like the tech inside the torpedos itself or how they track


[29-Jun-20 05:26 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/st-louis-couple-aims-guns-protesters-mayors-home-defund-police/

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White couple aims guns at St. Louis protesters
Demonstrators were marching toward mayor's home, demanding her resignation after she made public names of some residents who called on her to defund police.
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[29-Jun-20 05:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a private street but this is really fucking stupid


[29-Jun-20 05:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't aim guns at people


[29-Jun-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
karen and ken and the guns they've never used before


[29-Jun-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine being lawyers but not realizing you can't just wave guns around

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[29-Jun-20 05:31 PM] ononim#8141
I am sure they actually know they *CAN* wave guns around


[29-Jun-20 05:31 PM] ononim#8141
*because they know they're white*


[29-Jun-20 05:31 PM] ononim#8141
tho it is amazing


[29-Jun-20 05:31 PM] ononim#8141
the fucking pose lmao


[29-Jun-20 05:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah "Sleepy Joe"


[29-Jun-20 05:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I never got it, he's not sleepy, he's confused


[29-Jun-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was the only catchy name thye coudl think of


[29-Jun-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
senile joe doesnt roll off the tongue as well


[29-Jun-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he isn;t crazy so crazy joe doesn;t fit as a slogan


[29-Jun-20 06:07 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/north-carolina-speedway-bubba-wallace-nascar

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North Carolina speedway loses partnerships after owner's 'Bubba rop...
A North Carolina racetrack has lost some partnerships after its owner advertised “Bubba Rope” for sale online days after NASCAR said a noose had been found in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace, the top series’ only Black driver.
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[29-Jun-20 06:13 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/1277258614298734593?s=19

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God (@TheTweetOfGod)
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Hey Iran, heads up: There's a woman in the US who's making you look really stupid.
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[29-Jun-20 06:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They probably should bomb her house with drones.


[29-Jun-20 06:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[29-Jun-20 06:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh wait...


[29-Jun-20 06:19 PM] ononim#8141
Do Head of Pahlavi dynasty still simps US in hope that if they coup the Islamic Republic they're going to give it back to them?


[29-Jun-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[29-Jun-20 06:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Same for the people who fled Castro


[29-Jun-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
Oh also


[29-Jun-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
@Crow Incest Yugoslavia
Incest Yugoslavia


[29-Jun-20 06:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeehaw, bre!


[29-Jun-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[29-Jun-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DELET THIS


[29-Jun-20 06:50 PM] wren#0114
kek, saved


[29-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Want to know something extra good?


[29-Jun-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She's on the ethics panel for the Missouri Bar


[29-Jun-20 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_She_ is one of the people deciding whether to discipline attorneys for misconduct


[29-Jun-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/sacha-baron-cohen-pranked-rally-led-singalong-wuhan-flu-2020-6

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Sacha Baron Cohen infiltrated a right-wing rally and got people in ...
Sacha Baron Cohen led a crowd in song at a gathering of a group called the Three Percenters, in Olympia, Washington.
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[29-Jun-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
what happened to aaron?


[29-Jun-20 07:35 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
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[29-Jun-20 08:07 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504999-mcenany-trump-shared-video-of-man-shouting-white-power-to-stand-with?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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McEnany: Trump shared video of man shouting 'white power' to stand ...
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany on Monday defended President Trump's retweet a day earlier in which the president shared a video of a man in Florida shouting "white power," saying he did so to stand up for his supporters.
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[29-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[29-Jun-20 08:11 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
That’s just racist


[29-Jun-20 08:13 PM] illumnious#7938
It is racist darling, what do you expect?


[29-Jun-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
another double down on something that really shouldn't be doubled down on


[29-Jun-20 08:29 PM] illumnious#7938
:ausping:


[29-Jun-20 08:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/supreme-court-abortion-louisiana.html

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Supreme Court Strikes Down Louisiana Abortion Law, With Roberts the...
The case, over a state law requiring doctors performing abortions to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals, is the first abortion ruling since two Trump appointees joined the court.
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[29-Jun-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gileads-covid-19-drug-costs-2340-experts-say-thats-a-responsible-price-2020-06-29

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Gilead’s coronavirus drug will cost $2,340 — which sounds expensive...
Gilead Sciences Inc.’s COVID-19 drug remdesivir will cost much less than Wall Street analysts had predicted in a move that likely points to a more measured,...
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[29-Jun-20 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
the author of that atlantic article is the same as the one that lied about derpibooru


[29-Jun-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Take with an enormous hunk of NaCl


[29-Jun-20 08:48 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.marketwatch.com/story/gileads-covid-19-drug-costs-2340-experts-say-thats-a-responsible-price-2020-06-29
@prism stryder(intexda) I rather die

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Gilead’s coronavirus drug will cost $2,340 — which sounds expensive...
Gilead Sciences Inc.’s COVID-19 drug remdesivir will cost much less than Wall Street analysts had predicted in a move that likely points to a more measured,...
https://s.marketwatch.com/public/resources/images/MW-IE301_remdes_ZG_20200413134610.jpg


[29-Jun-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would rather gilead die


[29-Jun-20 08:57 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/us/john-wayne-airport-name-change-orange-county-democrats/index.html

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Democrats want John Wayne Airport renamed after 'I believe in white...
Democrats in Orange County, California, are done with The Duke, and they want John Wayne's name and likeness stripped from the county's airport.
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[29-Jun-20 09:05 PM] Pontology#1010
Digging up someone's personal beliefs that no-one was aware of to cancel them when it had no effect on how they lived their lives (e.g. one of his quotes in that article is how 10% of movie actors should be black since they're 10% of the population, he didn't discriminate in movies) is really dumb.


[29-Jun-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1277649564930015237

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❌ Twitch Partner "DonaldTrump" (@TeamTrump) has been banned! ❌

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#twitch #ban #firstban #partner #twitchpartner 👮🏾‍♀️
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[29-Jun-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-unemployment-benefits-end-week-earlier-state-jobs-bump-extra-2020-6

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The $600 federal bump in unemployment benefits will end a week earl...
The extension in unemployment benefits is slated to end on Friday, July 31, but state unemployment systems typically pay out the money on weekends.
https://i.insider.com/5efa10445af6cc75f67958f7?width=1200&format=jpeg


[29-Jun-20 09:10 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://time.com/5860163/trump-hong-kong-funding-freeze/

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Trump Administration Freezes Funding Intended to Benefit Hong Kong ...
The freeze in funding came as China prepares to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong
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[29-Jun-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
(June 9)


[29-Jun-20 09:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Uh huh


[29-Jun-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-20 09:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3955313

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US military aircraft sighted near Taiwan&rsqu... | Taiwan News
Movements said to have something to do with China’s submarine activity
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[29-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit, I didn't know planes could effectively engage submarines


[29-Jun-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
> The P-8A Poseidon is the U.S. Navy reconnaissance aircraft carrying out maritime patrol missions and capable of engaging in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare. A P-3C Orion surveillance aircraft was also purportedly spotted during the period, though the accuracy of the spotting was unconfirmed according to SCSPI.


[29-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
Reddit has apparently banned r/the_donald
Their new rule says
> While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.


[29-Jun-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
So despite the fact that reddit is global and whites are 11% of the population, I'm sure they think that whites are "the majority" so anti-white hatred will be ok according to the new rules.
I don't know why else they would make that exception.


[29-Jun-20 09:24 PM] ononim#8141
They also got r/ChapoTrapHouse and r/gender_critical


[29-Jun-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
idk anything on gender critical, but watf has chapo trap house done?


[29-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
I guess "inciting violence" against the police or something?


[29-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
I've visited chapo trap house like twice


[29-Jun-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
and it was mostly anti-capitalist memes


[29-Jun-20 09:31 PM] byte[]#2610
chapotraphouse is (was) the main tankie subreddit


[29-Jun-20 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I didn't realize they were tankies


[29-Jun-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
same with cum_town


[29-Jun-20 09:32 PM] Pontology#1010
only correct opinions are allowed. No trump support or commie advocacy.


[29-Jun-20 09:33 PM] byte[]#2610
gender critical is (was) a subreddit originally intended to be criticism of trans pride, which predictably turned into a full on ragebait sub as time passed


[29-Jun-20 09:33 PM] Pontology#1010
neoliberal supremacy


[29-Jun-20 09:34 PM] Crow#5457
oh, so gender critical was TERF territory


[29-Jun-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
makeupaddiction also had a wave of TERFery but seems to have survived


[29-Jun-20 09:35 PM] Pontology#1010
How dare women not want biological men in their changing rooms

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[29-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
how dare someone make such hideous bait


[29-Jun-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
try harder next time


[29-Jun-20 09:35 PM] wren#0114
you seem to have high expectations for reddit


[29-Jun-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Pontology#1010
It's not bait. One of the current battles in the area is about trans people in locker rooms, in high school.


[29-Jun-20 09:40 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bransonlb/i-got-kicked-out-of-a-ymca-locker-room-twice-because-im

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I Got Kicked Out Of A YMCA Locker Room — Twice — Because I’m Trans
Changing in the women’s locker room as an androgynous person has always been an uncomfortable experience, but I didn’t expect to be forced to leave.
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[29-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Pontology#1010
Biological men in women's locker rooms


[29-Jun-20 09:40 PM] Pontology#1010
It's. Not. Bait.


[29-Jun-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://derpicdn.net/img/2015/1/14/805969/thumb.png

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[29-Jun-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that there's military commanders who have to deal with the fact they have transgender personnel now who are forced to go into the opposite locker, even if they look male or female


[29-Jun-20 09:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/realtrillbill/status/1277438229034172416?s=21

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easy breezy sailin guy (@RealTrillBill)
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Wanna feel old?
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[29-Jun-20 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
New GTA looks weird


[29-Jun-20 10:01 PM] PwnyPony#6185
We had fetus deletus now get ready for

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[29-Jun-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> So despite the fact that reddit is global and whites are 11% of the population, I'm sure they think that whites are "the majority"
I'm asian (so part of 50% of the world) yet somehow I keep finding people who think "white skin" is "normal skin" color so :shrugpony: 
similar to how 60% of US is overweight, yet being thin is considered "normal" idfk how that works :shrugpony:


[29-Jun-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
im overweight & not considered normal :shrugpony:
I go groccery shopping & see most ppl overweight with some ppl on those fat scooters


[29-Jun-20 10:02 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[29-Jun-20 10:02 PM] Pontology#1010
I've zero doubt that people think that in China as well, since white skin is normal in China.


[29-Jun-20 10:04 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few8kJ0zfnY

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DailyNation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few8kJ0zfnY
Racism in a Chinese laundry detergent advertisement
http://www.nation.co.ke
A laundry detergent firm in China has come under fire for its racist commercial.
The advertisement, which quickly went viral after it was shared on social media, sparked heated debate as internet users slammed it for its racist overtone.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Few8kJ0zfnY/hqdefault.jpg


[29-Jun-20 10:05 PM] Pontology#1010
:laughfilly:


[29-Jun-20 10:05 PM] wren#0114
wtf did I just watch lmao


[29-Jun-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
well, that is a racist commercial, whether or not the joke offsets the racism part


[29-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If we saw this advertisement in 2010 then people would say it is a sexist commercial


[29-Jun-20 10:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Since man whistles at woman and then harasses her sexually


[29-Jun-20 10:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Speaking of racism

https://youtu.be/vxSwQbgE5jQ

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Rev says desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxSwQbgE5jQ
curb your voice acting
Miruko dub got me big mad!!! 😡🤬😡🤬

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[29-Jun-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
dont worry. we'll fix this by having 🤖 voice actors :raritywink:

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[29-Jun-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
soon all your ponies will be robots :bot:


[29-Jun-20 10:30 PM] ononim#8141
I am on mobile so not watching the vid but re:comment on the thumbnail watching a few yt videos cleary shows that there's no specific "black" voice


[29-Jun-20 10:31 PM] soundtea#9032
I'd just rather want VAs that arent the same old same old every time from the union


[29-Jun-20 10:32 PM] soundtea#9032
Especially the ones that are everywhere yet have quite a small range, if at all


[29-Jun-20 10:32 PM] wren#0114
the english voice actor was indeed black, but apparently "didn't sound black" to those people who reacted without checking


[29-Jun-20 10:32 PM] jlun2#8758
@soundtea thats noticable for me for HK chinese dubs lmao


[29-Jun-20 10:33 PM] wren#0114
dubs are lame


[29-Jun-20 10:33 PM] wren#0114
read the manga


[29-Jun-20 10:33 PM] wren#0114
:twiright:


[29-Jun-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I watch my manga with subtitles only


[29-Jun-20 10:34 PM] ononim#8141
Every single person reacting to "we heard you! Bg character from third grade animated show will now be voiced by PoC" I've seen pretty much has the same reaction as in "meaningful police reform pls" meme


[29-Jun-20 10:34 PM] soundtea#9032
I think i've lost count of the times i've heard some VAs these days


[29-Jun-20 10:34 PM] soundtea#9032
and you can tell who it is the second they open their mouth


[29-Jun-20 10:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> Bg character from third grade animated show will now be voiced by robots
fixed


[29-Jun-20 10:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So we will tell away who is the important character by voice?


[29-Jun-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
you could probably tell tbh without voice by looking at who gets focused often


[29-Jun-20 10:38 PM] soundtea#9032
@jlun2 Yeah i've heard horror stories about some non-US dubbing companies


[29-Jun-20 10:38 PM] soundtea#9032
The amount of VAs they have countable on your hands, or even 1 hand


[29-Jun-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
like say Pokemon. even if you never played the games, you could probably figure out whos the one off char & who isnt without sound


[29-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Yuri#4154
🦀🦀🦀 r/GenCrit IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀


[29-Jun-20 10:56 PM] Yuri#4154
Good fucking riddance


[29-Jun-20 10:57 PM] Yuri#4154
Also, I find it funny that Chapo got the axe while MoreTankieChapo didn't


[29-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Yuri#4154
Spez confirmed tankie /s


[29-Jun-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
All of you who jumped to the conclusion that the Square Park shooter was an "alt-right terrorist", wrong. He was probably a left-wing terrorist.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/29/louisville-breonna-taylor-protest-shooting-suspect-identified/3277736001/

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What we know about Steven Lopez, the suspect in the fatal Louisvill...
Steven Lopez is accused of firing a gun into the crowd at a protest at Louisville's Jefferson Square Park, killing a 27-year-old photographer.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/06/17/PLOU/539df6f8-8e5a-4a9a-9e8d-e48fee859dca-AJ4T0929.jpg?crop=2727,1534,x0,y260&width=2727&height=1534&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[29-Jun-20 10:59 PM] Pontology#1010
> Lopez has been a frequent sight at the protests, which have rocked the streets of Louisville for a month.
> 
> Several Louisville Courier Journal reporters have seen him among the crowd in recent days, and a speaker at a Kentucky Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression press conference Sunday morning said he'd been among the crowd for the past 12 days at least.


[29-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Pontology#1010
Never jump to conclusions before all the facts are in.


[29-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I do not recall anyone mention him here btw.


[29-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Pontology#1010
It was a few days ago when it happened, and some people said things like "fucking alt-right terrorist".


[29-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Yuri#4154
It was quite literally one person


[29-Jun-20 11:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Iirc


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Yuri#4154
That barely uses this channel


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Can you link that message


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Pontology#1010
meh


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Pontology#1010
you can search it


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm not singling anyone out


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Bruh


[29-Jun-20 11:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I did 5 searches


[29-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Can't find


[29-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You are the one accusing people


[29-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Terrorist is not showing anything


[29-Jun-20 11:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Shooter either


[29-Jun-20 11:07 PM] wren#0114
nah I saw it a day or so back, but it was an offhanded comment and I forget the context


[29-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/726816869608063046


[29-Jun-20 11:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hahah


[29-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Warc got muted from here multiple times


[29-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not too surprising really


[29-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So it was literally 1 person indeed


[29-Jun-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think warc's ever gotten muted here before


[29-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I saw.


[29-Jun-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And in support.


[29-Jun-20 11:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No idea why, only saw roles.


[29-Jun-20 11:23 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Who is warg


[29-Jun-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
caw9


[29-Jun-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1276459637450002433

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Ukraine / Україна (@Ukraine)
https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1276459637450002433
Sheldon’s #FunWithFlags would look awesome with the Crimean Tatar Flag, wouldn’t it? One day the golden-and-blue beauty will wave again in @Crimea alongside Ukrainian flags. Marking the end of Russia’s illegal occupation & oppression of Crimea’s indigenous people #CrimeaIsUkr...
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[29-Jun-20 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh


[29-Jun-20 11:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
For some reason people in Crimea I knew were thinking highly of Russia


[29-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder what they think now


[29-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
After some years


[29-Jun-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Cursed diplomacy


[29-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Yuri#4154
A lot of Russia stans in the comments


[29-Jun-20 11:51 PM] Yuri#4154
A few tankies there too


[30-Jun-20 12:27 AM] jlun2#8758
russian pony style :glowing_eyes:


[30-Jun-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/jenniebujold/status/1277379444123078656

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Dr. Jennie Bujold🌹🏳️‍🌈 (@JennieBujold)
https://twitter.com/jenniebujold/status/1277379444123078656
A play in three acts.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebop1QtXsAYHEaW.jpg:large


[30-Jun-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
(multiple images in tweet)


[30-Jun-20 01:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even get what her transphobia is rooted in, really


[30-Jun-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it "If men can be women, then women have nothing?"


[30-Jun-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mobarnews/status/1277715731271032841

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The Missouri Bar (@mobarnews)
https://twitter.com/mobarnews/status/1277715731271032841
Information on video involving Missouri lawyers.  Read here --> https://t.co/qNRJtMZnow #MOLawyers #YourMOLaw
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1277715734379053056/pNBodKJP?format=jpg&name=600x314
Twitter


[30-Jun-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Both lawyers are in good standing and neither currently serve in any appointed or elected leadership role for The Missouri Bar."


[30-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Trans woman tries to force a women's salons to wax "her" genitals.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/27/male-genitalia-week-in-patriarchy-women

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It's not a hate crime for a woman to feel uncomfortable waxing male...
16 complaints filed by a Canadian trans woman make a mockery of the hate crimes committed against trans people every day
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/18903fc11feb7f2f94fcaa1a82bd9d56c4d83758/0_382_5700_3420/master/5700.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctb3BpbmlvbnMucG5n&enable=upscale&s=aa2ae9d0e6eef8e524f43611f1c7ce0f


[30-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
TERFS don't come out of no-where


[30-Jun-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a response to things like this


[30-Jun-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[30-Jun-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does it justify the massive ammounts of scorn and harrassment trans people receive?


[30-Jun-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're also neglecting to factor in trans men btw


[30-Jun-20 02:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://derpicdn.net/img/2015/1/14/805969/thumb.png

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[30-Jun-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm talking about TERFs, who care about women much more


[30-Jun-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TERFs might say they care about women but at the end of the day their actions and political alliances are detrimental to correcting the gender imbalance in society


[30-Jun-20 02:07 AM] Pontology#1010
They'd say you don't fix the gender imbalance by just having men identify as women


[30-Jun-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're asssuming being or becoming transgender is something that is borne out of a person's free will


[30-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
For many, it's born out of sociological factors 
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/feb/22/ssweden-teenage-transgender-row-dysphoria-diagnoses-soar

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Teenage transgender row splits Sweden as dysphoria diagnoses soar b...
New health report and TV debates highlight backlash against gender reassignment
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/da2ad3675281ad7164147055c76c950e02d0fafd/97_233_1880_1128/master/1880.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdG8tZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&enable=upscale&s=61273d3729200eb75a7fcc7171103748


[30-Jun-20 02:08 AM] Pontology#1010
a 1500% increase in trans-identifying teenagers


[30-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or they're just coming out of the closet


[30-Jun-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 and you're responding to an inflammatory attack which is obviously not intended to be a legitimate discussion about problems trans people have integrating in society but rather just ragebait


[30-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ban this person then


[30-Jun-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're the mod


[30-Jun-20 02:10 AM] Pontology#1010
I find saying my beliefs in an honest discussion are inflammatory and not intended for legitimate discussion extremely dismissive


[30-Jun-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, they are not intended for legitimate discussion because they've been thoroughly disproven by science, sociology, and history


[30-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
There are strong sociological factors. 1/3 of people would not naturally identify as LGBT in the absence of ideology pushing it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/05/two-thirds-generation-z-identify-exclusively-heterosexual/

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Only two thirds of Generation Z identify as 'exclusively heterosexual'
Homosexuality is no longer the taboo it once was.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/07/05/TELEMMGLPICT000167999498_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqe5jTtuvhyhg4PHi86V8a0p815QE7DqplUJlHpAWoYtg.jpeg?impolicy=logo-overlay


[30-Jun-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I am in a number of lgbt servers, mostly just to listen


[30-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
And it's common to read teenagers say things like that they're "bisexual lesbians (but prefer men)"


[30-Jun-20 02:12 AM] Pontology#1010
They're confused as heck and have no clue, identifying as lesbian because it's cool


[30-Jun-20 02:12 AM] byte[]#2610
then have a basic level of respect for these people as individuals, don't use airquotes to refer to trans people's pronouns for those who are obviously not abusive, do the bare minimum level of research into the issue that is not just a regurgitation of what tucker carlson tells you on fox

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[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47612616

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https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47612616
Sam Smith: 'I'm not male or female'
The singer says realising he doesn't identify as either gender has improved his body confidence.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/BF3D/production/_106075984_sslead976.jpg


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology ssource for that?


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Pontology#1010
This is a bearded man.


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're literally just putting up hearsay


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oh i'm in LGBT servers so i know"


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Pontology#1010
If calling him he instead of "they" is bannable, then ban me. A bearded man identifying as "nonbinary" is just narcissism.


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't look like you're doing any good at respecting individuals


[30-Jun-20 02:13 AM] Yuri#4154
Gender ≠ sex ffs


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and you're getting angry at something that does not affect your life in any meaningful way


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Pontology#1010
It affects my life if laws begin requiring people to refer to people like Sam Smith as "they"


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neither does a random celebrity's identification as queer change the status quo about gender in society


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] Pontology#1010
In the UK, they are already arresting people for misgendering


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It affects your life? How?


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] byte[]#2610
The law in the US does not require you to refer to trans people in any particular way


[30-Jun-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just use "they" ffs


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

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Mother arrested after calling a transgender woman a man
Three officers detained Kate Scottow, 38, at her home in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, before quizzing her at a police station about an argument with Stephanie Hayden on Twitter.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/10/00/9609544-0-image-a-14_1549759583915.jpg


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] byte[]#2610
However, you intentionally misgendering someone who has done nothing to you because you don't like their choices is definitely being a dick


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, fortunately I am American.


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you misgender, apologize and correct, most queer people won't care unless you start getting abbrasive and offensive


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:wheeze:


[30-Jun-20 02:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Still, I fear for the future of free speech jurisprudence in my country.


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being proud of what sort of colorful piece of rag you were legally born under


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Yuri#4154
Why are you posting the DailyFail article that was proven to be... stretching facts at the very least?


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/14/kate-scottow-stephanie-hayden-guilty-trans-woman-online-abuse-twitter-st-albans-hertfordshire/

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Trans woman wishes Twitter troll Kate Scottow ‘all the best’ after ...
Stephanie Hayden, a trans woman who was called a "racist" and a "pig in a wig" online, has won her case against Kate Scottow, the woman who targeted her.
https://s31242.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/trans-1024x625.jpg


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, that


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
TERFs never bring up the full picture


[30-Jun-20 02:16 AM] soundtea#9032
I half expect something from the Sun or Enquirer next


[30-Jun-20 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neither do their allies


[30-Jun-20 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh if freedom of speech isn't being used for organization, incitement to class struggle and countering the narrative of corporations, it's as well as useless to me


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
>mfw Reddit banned /r/chapotraphouse


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
no communism allowed


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't like chapo anyway


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Yuri#4154
MoreTankieChapo is still up


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Yuri#4154
:wheeze:


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Obviously I oppose all censorship, to be clear


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Communist speech is free speech


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're just simplistic LARPers


[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
"men" and "women" are gender roles people have in western society. male and female refers to the sexes. a trans woman could be called biologically male (and it wouldn't be a dick thing to do if it were in an appropriate context to discuss it - do you talk about people's dicks for fun?)

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[30-Jun-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stalinists, too


[30-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck Chapo teebeeaich


[30-Jun-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The sub was beter off gone


[30-Jun-20 02:19 AM] Yuri#4154
Is Chapo is the price we had to pay for TD, GenCrit and ConsumeProduct to get the axe then so be it


[30-Jun-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Besides,  there have been numerous examples of gender conceptions in non-European societies


[30-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Yuri#4154
Though TD was dead anyway


[30-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Pontology#1010
If gender is socially constructed, I oppose the social construction of nonbinary


[30-Jun-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why?


[30-Jun-20 02:20 AM] Yuri#4154
:faceclaw:


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Isn't that... contradictory


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So you can continue to have the bathroom industry force establishments to waste funds making double rooms? :twismug:


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Because the point of gender is to center the reproductive apparatus of society—men and women in monogamous relationships for the purpose of reproduction and child rearing


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
NB is just the rejection of existing construct


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
No, that's the point of sex


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology that's rather primitive thinking tbh


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Big Poop wins again, just like the conspiracy to get us all to panic buy toilet paper


[30-Jun-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The act of sex for reproduction itself is becoming obsolete


[30-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and the deleterious effects of this are reflected in the sub-replacement birthrates of every developed country


[30-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not sustainable long-term


[30-Jun-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is not sustainable is overpopulation


[30-Jun-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, yes, i defend reducing the population of the world


[30-Jun-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
E.g. South Korea has only 0.98 children/woman. They're dying out as a nation.


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] Pontology#1010
that's less than half what is needed to sustain their population


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] soundtea#9032
Ok so you're really fucking delusional


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] soundtea#9032
If you actually blame gender roles for that you are on some serious crack


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] soundtea#9032
or brain damaged


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Of course they are, but long-term their birthrates obviously need to change, or they'll cease to exist


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Big populations aren't really that necessary for preserving culture


[30-Jun-20 02:23 AM] soundtea#9032
^


[30-Jun-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LGBT people also barely make up 5% of the population iirc


[30-Jun-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They are not a significant factor in this


[30-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Pontology#1010
In Britain, as I linked, 33% of youth identify as LGBTQ+


[30-Jun-20 02:24 AM] Pontology#1010
That's a _huge_ factor


[30-Jun-20 02:25 AM] soundtea#9032
How about go do some research into what actually drives lower birthrates


[30-Jun-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how many reproduce? Or are willing to reproduce?


[30-Jun-20 02:25 AM] soundtea#9032
You attributing it mostly to gender roles is flat out **stupid**


[30-Jun-20 02:25 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not mostly gender roles. Gender roles are only one component.


[30-Jun-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, the economy is to factor in here too


[30-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
The strongest correlation just seems to be national average IQ. The countries with the lowest birthrates are the east-asian ones (Japan, Korea)


[30-Jun-20 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:hopeless:


[30-Jun-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Which makes sense, because within each society, IQ correlates negatively with number of children


[30-Jun-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
:laughfilly:


[30-Jun-20 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and people are divorcing less in the state of Maine because of a decrease in the consumption of butter


[30-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm well aware that correlation is not causation


[30-Jun-20 02:28 AM] Pontology#1010
And I think primarily in correlations


[30-Jun-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
I drink soy sauce shots for fun


[30-Jun-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Definitely explains me being nonbinary


[30-Jun-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hola, Sauce Shots For Fun


[30-Jun-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Soy Everyone


[30-Jun-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hot


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why strap yourself to it tho


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Saying you're white is racist. Don't you know race is a social construct?


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Yuri#4154
Let's drink soy sauce and destroy le Western Civilisation together


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Pontology#1010
/sarcasm


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
because his manly aryan genes are rebelling against him and attempting to remove him from the viewing of interracial porn


[30-Jun-20 02:31 AM] Pontology#1010
The radical racial constructivists do, who think that whiteness is completely a social construct :shrug:


[30-Jun-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is?


[30-Jun-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Meanwhile they call white people white on the basis of phenotype


[30-Jun-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are Arabs white?


[30-Jun-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Are Turks white?


[30-Jun-20 02:32 AM] byte[]#2610
very few individuals actually say stuff that except maybe the authors of the grievance studies affakr


[30-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
The boundary between whites and arabs is a social construct originating from religious divides. Had the Muslims never invaded Christian Turkey, Turks would be considered European


[30-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
There are grains of truth in everything


[30-Jun-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
I've never seen anyone claim that race is a social construct, though there are studies that show that babies of a different race than their caretakers develop a preference for their caretakers' race


[30-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/06/16/how-fluid-is-racial-identity/race-and-racial-identity-are-social-constructs

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Race and Racial Identity Are Social Constructs
Unlike race and racial identity, the social, political and economic meanings of race, or rather belonging to particular racial groups, have not been fluid.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/06/16/opinion/RFDDolezal/RFDDolezal-articleInline.jpg


[30-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/

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Three-month-olds, but not newborns, prefer own-race faces
Adults are sensitive to the physical differences that define ethnic groups. However, the age at which we become sensitive to ethnic differences is currently unclear. Our study aimed to clarify this by testing newborns and young infants for sensitivity ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/corehtml/pmc/pmcgifs/pmc-logo-share.png


[30-Jun-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
not newborns


[30-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Unfortunately, it's taught as fact in some branches of academia


[30-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
In fields like "critical race theory"


[30-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
> These results suggest that preferential selectivity based on ethnic differences is not present in the first days of life, but is learned within the first 3 months of life. The findings imply that adults' perceptions of ethnic differences are learned and derived from differences in exposure to own- versus other-race faces during early development.


[30-Jun-20 02:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, because these fields study the economic and social factors of race


[30-Jun-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
It's wrong.


[30-Jun-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Or at least obscenely misleading, inasmuch as they conflate the ^ economic and social factors of race with the phenotypic aspects


[30-Jun-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Ethnicity is largely genetic
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-high-court-allows-dna-testing-to-prove-judaism-1.8439615

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Israeli High Court allows DNA testing to prove Judaism
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[30-Jun-20 02:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once again, there can be phenotypical and genetic patterns in populations, but that doesn't qualify much as a justification of the traditional concept of "race" imo


[30-Jun-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Somehow I suspect you don't support the free palestine movement at all


[30-Jun-20 02:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology are they gonna test individuals for their DNA or analyze their DNA for tracing back their ancestry to Jewish families?


[30-Jun-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
*opens the channel*


[30-Jun-20 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
*closes the channel*


[30-Jun-20 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@ononim yes, we got a nazi here


[30-Jun-20 02:39 AM] Pontology#1010
:facehoof:


[30-Jun-20 02:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not a white supremacist


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
>apartheid state that was also caught discriminated against their fellow Jews because they're of different ethnicity


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My dude


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
>This is the proof that everything is genetics, guys


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You literally posted a meme praising the authright corner once


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
you're parroting white supremacist and neo-nazi talking points, it's hard not to call you one


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
I guess English are all celto-romans in fact


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 No I didn't


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] Crow#5457
"I'm not racist, but"


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You did


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] ononim#8141
And Turks are the actual Greeks


[30-Jun-20 02:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Two days ago i believe


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
crows are the actual birds


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
You mean the one about fascists saying "I'll fuckin do it again!"


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
That was anti-fascist


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Did he bring up the IQ map yet?


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This one


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/501780687230074890/726867976414036078/102702730_103741474709901_1640037004371566789_n.png

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[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, that's making fun of both


[30-Jun-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
It's definitely not pro-fascist


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, this is obviously a pro-nazi meme, why else would the authright one use the buff doge template


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're gaslighting


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Pontology#1010
You don't get how this meme format works


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, yeah


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're a nazi


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Sidenote


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Fuck r/PCM


[30-Jun-20 02:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Hope it gets axed next


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
:facehoof:


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Not at you y[]ri


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Yuri#4154
It was just a sidenote


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I've deradicalized a nazi


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
I am extremely anti-genocide


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like, what did you expect? For me not to notice and be caught in your superior intellect? Drop off the masquerade and admit it


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] ononim#8141
Yeah you guys have fun, I'll do something worthwhile in menatime


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
If I were a nazi, I wouldn't deradicalize nazis


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] Yuri#4154
@ononim I should probably do the same


[30-Jun-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, sure, and i bought the moon


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have the receipt right here at my house, wanna see?


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Yuri#4154
I got... a little annoyed at that trans discussion earlier


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Yuri#4154
To say the least


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
I broke up with someone who loved me because he hated jews too much


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Like, he was a vicious antisemite. Genocide-advocacy


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't tolerate it


[30-Jun-20 02:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This must likely be a /pol/ meme


[30-Jun-20 02:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can smell the essence over it


[30-Jun-20 02:45 AM] Yuri#4154
I don't have a sense of smell and even I can smell the /pol/


[30-Jun-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't care about refuting them -- they've already provided enough cues to it


[30-Jun-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, why am i even giving them attention


[30-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Pontology#1010
These memes frequently don't advocate the chad position

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[30-Jun-20 02:46 AM] Pontology#1010
They're just jokes


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Pontology#1010
I genuinely interpreted what I posted as anti-fascist, since it depicts fascists as saying "We'll do genocide again!" which is accurate


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Pontology#1010
and as goofy too


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But people are tending towards taking them seriously as of late


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] Pontology#1010
not exactly flattering


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many people, in fact


[30-Jun-20 02:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You underestimate the honesty of political internet memes, then


[30-Jun-20 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The meme has mutated beyond its original intent tho


[30-Jun-20 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whereas it's just become a mnichaeist mouthpiece for whatever the author likes and holds dear


[30-Jun-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User yes, and that's what i'm accusing them of doing


[30-Jun-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then you're not up to date with internet meme culture


[30-Jun-20 02:49 AM] Yuri#4154
Memes were a mistake


[30-Jun-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-bans-stefan-molyneux-hate-speech-david-duke-richard-spencer-2020-6

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YouTube bans white supremacist channels including those of Richard ...
YouTube banned the channels of Richard Spencer and other popular white supremacists on the platform, citing violations of hate speech guidelines.
https://i.insider.com/5efa55aff34d0562b402fbd7?width=1200&format=jpeg


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
In fact


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
The entire internet was


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Reject humanity


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Return to monke


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember when theorists argued the internet would make democracies more accountable on the factor of mass availability of information


[30-Jun-20 02:50 AM] Yuri#4154
Let's take AnPrim to its absolute limit


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Yuri#4154
:ponkwithASCENDEDeyes:


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Snow#2761
why did i do this


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Snow#2761
https://derpibooru.org/forums/dis/topics/two-questions-about-a-possible-leftist-ruled-america?post_id=4839474#post_4839474

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Two questions about a possible leftist-ruled America... - General D...
Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
well, it certainly makes their crimes against democracy more visible


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Snow#2761
good god that has to be the longest wall of text i've ever written


[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Yuri#4154
Damn that's long

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nut 

[30-Jun-20 02:51 AM] Yuri#4154
Nearly as long as my-


[30-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Snow#2761
@Deleted User true


[30-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Snow#2761
@Yuri

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[30-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Yuri#4154
As a leftist, you're not wrong


[30-Jun-20 02:52 AM] Snow#2761
leftist memes are either too much text


[30-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Snow#2761
or 0 text but literally only leftists will laugh at it because only they get the humor


[30-Jun-20 02:53 AM] Snow#2761
example

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[30-Jun-20 02:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[30-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Snow#2761
this is fucking hilarious if you understand the context


[30-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Yuri#4154
I blew air out of my nose slightly more forcefully than usual


[30-Jun-20 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kinda part of the ossification and fossilization of traditional leftism imo, which segregates activists into parties and reading groups as a tendency and keeps them out of actual labor struggle


[30-Jun-20 02:54 AM] Yuri#4154
Gud miim


[30-Jun-20 02:55 AM] Snow#2761
tbh blowing your air out of your nose slightly more forcefully than usual is about what constitutes howling with laughter nowadays


[30-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Snow#2761
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 the left is having somewhat of a resurgence but it's so fucking messy and disorganised


[30-Jun-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More often than not, leftist activists end up feeling intimidated by the complexity and unmanageability of direct labour struggle


[30-Jun-20 02:56 AM] Snow#2761
everyone kind of agrees on the basic shit but disagrees on where to go with it


[30-Jun-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course


[30-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Snow#2761
same


[30-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Yuri#4154
And doge memes


[30-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Yuri#4154
There's a lot of doge memes too


[30-Jun-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**FUN**substance


[30-Jun-20 02:57 AM] Yuri#4154

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[30-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Pontology#1010
This meme is hateful


[30-Jun-20 02:58 AM] Snow#2761
me in 2020

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[30-Jun-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Burly men wielding sledgehammers yaaaay


[30-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Snow#2761
when do we get an antifa gachimuchi porno film


[30-Jun-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
> everyone kind of agrees on the basic shit but disagrees on where to go with it


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
this isn't a new thing with leftism


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
it was this way in soviet russia at the beginning


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
it's why stalin had so much leeway when consolidating power


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Snow#2761
lmao this wasn't new in soviet russia


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
I never said it was new in soviet russia


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Mensheviks to the gulag


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Snow#2761
nah i wasn't arguing


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Snow#2761
but like


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Snow#2761
this shit goes all the way back to fucking


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We have to understand that leftism as a whole has been continuously adultered and demoralized through history after a series of defeats


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/how-stalin-became-stalinist

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How Stalin Became Stalinist
Puzzling out how the idealistic Soviet revolutionary came to preside over the bloodiest regime of his time.
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/59f21f1578b0741fe3f24ada/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/171106_r30848.jpg


[30-Jun-20 03:00 AM] Snow#2761
when marx was still alive


[30-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Crow#5457
this is a good read


[30-Jun-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The first international wasn't much split beyond the leadership level -- most of its members were very active in class struggle and labor activities so even the anarchists and marxists got along most of the time


[30-Jun-20 03:01 AM] Snow#2761
being a leftist is just a cycle of constantly knowing exactly how shit will go, hoping it doesn't go that way, and yet still being disappointed when it does go the way you thought it would


[30-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Snow#2761
"oh god poland is having an election right now please don't re elect the fascists"


[30-Jun-20 03:02 AM] Snow#2761
and then FUTURE VISION later in 2020


[30-Jun-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then came the revolutions of the 1910's, which failed in the long term, causing the Soviet Union to be the only state that was nominally socialist at the time -- its domineering influence began to be felt, and soon it dominated leftism worldwide


[30-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Snow#2761
"god dammit poland you re elected the fascists"


[30-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Snow#2761
the soviet union was socialist until the NEP


[30-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Snow#2761
but then they had state capitalism


[30-Jun-20 03:03 AM] Snow#2761
which persisted until its collapse


[30-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait, do leftists consider the Polish government fascist?


[30-Jun-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then there was repression through fascism and then the western bloc, and even Soviet repression towards workers' movements in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Maoist China... the left ended up splitting into many factions


[30-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Snow#2761
@Pontology no


[30-Jun-20 03:04 AM] Snow#2761
there's a difference between considering a government fascist and considering who is currently in charge of a government fascist


[30-Jun-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then the USSR collapsed, and China adopted neoliberal measures, and we're at the sorry state we're in today


[30-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Snow#2761
honestly the association of socialism with the soviet union and other countries who took up the soviet model has damaged the movement to such a degree that we're only barely starting to recover


[30-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Snow#2761
your average person who knows a leftist is like "oh i guess there are socialists who dont like the ussr"


[30-Jun-20 03:05 AM] Snow#2761
that's about the level they're at


[30-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Snow#2761
and everyone else is just stuck with red scare propaganda


[30-Jun-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Socialism (in name) has been implemented so many times


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
It has never been good, what self-described socialist governments are


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Snow#2761
if we're just going by in name


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Snow#2761
i'd say northern europe is doing fine


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Snow#2761
as well as western and central


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
They're capitalist https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was mostly because most nominally socialist regimes sprung up by outside interference into underdeveloped nations


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Yuri#4154
>CEO of hierarchy


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Yuri#4154
:ponkwithASCENDEDeyes:


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
They don't consider themselves socialist


[30-Jun-20 03:07 AM] Yuri#4154
Finally


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Yuri#4154
My ultimate opponent


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
i don't consider them socialist either


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
hehe


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, neither do I


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
but you did set the parameters as "in name"


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
They're not socialist in name


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Their model is social democracy


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
which incorporates capitalism


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
the parties who rule them are socialist parties


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
oh, and portugal?


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
portugal does pretty good for itself


[30-Jun-20 03:08 AM] Snow#2761
they have a coalition of socialist and communist parties


[30-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Snow#2761
their drug policy actually was the subject of academic study when they implemented it because it was very radical


[30-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Snow#2761
and also very successful


[30-Jun-20 03:09 AM] Snow#2761
to be clear, while i am a proponent of socialism, i do not blur lines or attempt to mislead


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Snow#2761
if a country has a worker-controlled, democratic economy


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Snow#2761
it is socialist


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Snow#2761
and if it a privately run or government run economy


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Snow#2761
it is a capitalist economy


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Pontology#1010
That discounts state socialism


[30-Jun-20 03:10 AM] Snow#2761
because state socialism does not have worker ownership


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Snow#2761
socialism necessitates worker ownership


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf i'd set the line on if the state has the commodity form (money, production for capital, etc) or not


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Abolish the commodity form and it's communism


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Snow#2761
The commodity form? Jesus, we're a fucking long way from abolishment of that, i don't think there's even any use for the term socialism if we're setting the bar that high


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know


[30-Jun-20 03:11 AM] Snow#2761
Oh, communism


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Snow#2761
Well, communism does mean abolishment of states as we understand them in the modern sense as well


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why it'd necessitate a successful world revolution


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Snow#2761
As for cuba specifically, it's... An odd case


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In my mind that is


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Snow#2761
It's one of the few places I'd consider somewhere in the ballpark of socialist leaning-ish


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Deleted User not really


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Snow#2761
If ever there was a place you could use the term "State socialism" it would probably be cuba


[30-Jun-20 03:12 AM] Snow#2761
without that term being contradictory


[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Poverty and misery are a result of social inequality

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[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Snow#2761
As in cuba, people seem to have somewhat of a control over their workplace


[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Absolute global poverty is lower than it's ever been


[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
mean? yeah


[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
median? hell no


[30-Jun-20 03:13 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_poverty

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Extreme poverty, deep poverty, abject poverty, absolute poverty, destitution, or penury, was defined by the United Nations (UN) in its 1995 report of the World Summit for Social Development as "a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including foo...
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[30-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Most people get this wrong, thinking it's rising


[30-Jun-20 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll argue that poor people getting a gradual raise means nothing compared to the massive ammounts of money billionaires make in a single year


[30-Jun-20 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
> This year, Oxfam’s report added another shocking stat. The report also claims that 2,200 billionaires worldwide saw their wealth grow by 12 percent (which is eminently believable), even as the poorest half saw its wealth fall by 11 percent (which is a bit harder to believe at a time when global poverty is consistently falling).


[30-Jun-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It just increases the ammount of social inequality and furthers discrepancies about the ownership of the means of production


[30-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/bottom-half-of-americans-negative-net-worth-2019-5

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[30-Jun-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
I support positive money


[30-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Like we used to have


[30-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Before the federal reserve and debt money


[30-Jun-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It means nothing for the proletariat if they cannot become the capitalist class


[30-Jun-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
> "The bottom half of Americans combined have a negative net worth," Bloomberg's Ben Steverman wrote based on research of economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman.


[30-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
90% of money in the U.S. is from fractional banking in the form of debt


[30-Jun-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
It's an abomination


[30-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Snow#2761
^


[30-Jun-20 03:18 AM] Snow#2761
Looking at things globally will always paint with the broadest brush possible


[30-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Snow#2761
In western europe and north america, where deindustrialisation and austerity has ravaged the communities people live in and destroyed opportunity for good paying jobs, we see things getting a lot worse specifically in places like the USA and the UK


[30-Jun-20 03:19 AM] Pontology#1010
In the 1800's the typical American was living on something like $1/day in real currency


[30-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty sure absolute poverty has been decreasing in the west too


[30-Jun-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What about prices then and now?


[30-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Pontology#1010
"real currency" means buying power


[30-Jun-20 03:20 AM] Snow#2761
This implies that decrease in poverty must always decrease, do you not believe that poverty can fluctuate and go up and down depending on conditions?


[30-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Snow#2761
Yes, things are still better than the 1800s


[30-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Snow#2761
But they are not as good as, say, the 1950's


[30-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, I somewhat misremembered, but not far off.
http://oldrecipebook.com/1800s-livingcost.shtml

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Think it was easier living during the Industrial Revolution? Here's some of the prices they were paying per week just to live.


[30-Jun-20 03:21 AM] Snow#2761
In fact, the great depression is a great example of this


[30-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Snow#2761
Financial crises and the way a government reacts to them, economic policy, and law can MASSIVELY impact people's living conditions


[30-Jun-20 03:22 AM] Snow#2761
There's a reason that hoovervilles were called hoovervilles


[30-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Pontology#1010
War is what brought us out of the great depression. We need more wars.


[30-Jun-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh


[30-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Pontology#1010
(This is not a serious opinion.)


[30-Jun-20 03:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok?


[30-Jun-20 03:23 AM] Snow#2761
thanks for clarifying that, i was going to hold my tongue for a potential /s


[30-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Snow#2761
it's impossible to tell nowadays lol


[30-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Snow#2761
plus we've been trying and trying and the war machine just doesn't work like it used to


[30-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Thinking I'm some kind of fascist or war-monger is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-group_homogeneity

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[30-Jun-20 03:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I never need to clarify when I'm joking in conservative servers, but I don't mind


[30-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Snow#2761
i never said you were a fascist or war monger?


[30-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Snow#2761
i just said it's hard to tell when people are joking nowadays


[30-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Earlier I was being called a fascist, and people weren't sure if I was joking about wanting war for the economy


[30-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, it is. Poe's law.


[30-Jun-20 03:25 AM] Snow#2761
i mean, i never called you a fascist


[30-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
👇


[30-Jun-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have tho, it's just that some of their past behavior and comments have been rather suspect


[30-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm psychic


[30-Jun-20 03:26 AM] Snow#2761
i don't talk on this server very often so i don't know them well enough to notice any trend in behavior that would lead me to believe so 🤷‍♂️


[30-Jun-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're not, you just saw me typing


[30-Jun-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
shh


[30-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Snow#2761
anyway, please god let's get back to the topic, there is no conversation to me more boring than droning on about wether or not someone is or isn't a fascist because it's literally something that's impossible to tell and all that matters anyway is the effect that their behavior has not the purity of their soul or whatever the fuck


[30-Jun-20 03:28 AM] Snow#2761
i'm a leftist and i don't do that


[30-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Snow#2761
and i know a lot of other leftists who aren't like that too


[30-Jun-20 03:29 AM] Snow#2761
my opinions on people are based on my interactions with them as well as utilitarian consequentialism


[30-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Snow#2761
it literally does not matter what goes on inside someone's head, what matters is the effect their behavior has


[30-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Snow#2761
so someone inside their head could be the most hateful neo nazi imaginable but if somehow that magically never influenced their behavior and outside they were just like anyone else


[30-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Snow#2761
then effectively, they are not a nazi


[30-Jun-20 03:30 AM] Snow#2761
and i do not give a fuck what goes on inside their head


[30-Jun-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf, some people tend to make manichean monoliths out of historical figures for example, whereas the truth is that we can get something useful from basically almost anyone's thought. I myself believe George Orwell was kind of a douche and even antisemite occasionally, but his thoughts on politics do have certainty to them sometimes


[30-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Snow#2761
^


[30-Jun-20 03:31 AM] Snow#2761
and the same goes the other way, someone could be the most morally pure, good intentioned person imagineable on the inside


[30-Jun-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
No-one is a saint, not even saints. I really don't like the trend of canceling good people remembered for good things for their relatively private thoughts that had no effect on their behavior (e.g. Gandhi)


[30-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Snow#2761
and if on the outside they advocate for authoritarianism, advocate for genocide, constantly talk about jews, etc etc, they're effectively a nazi


[30-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Snow#2761
that's consequentialism


[30-Jun-20 03:33 AM] Snow#2761
what matters is the consequences of actions and the context surrounding those actions


[30-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Snow#2761
i give zero fucks about what happens inside someone's private headspace


[30-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Snow#2761
go nuts, fantasize about whatever you want, just don't *act* like a dick


[30-Jun-20 03:34 AM] Snow#2761
i mean it, go absolutely fucking wild in your head


[30-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Snow#2761
what goes on in my head isn't anyone else's business and what goes on in others' heads isn't mine


[30-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Snow#2761
that's my belief


[30-Jun-20 03:35 AM] Snow#2761
that's why i'm a consequentialist


[30-Jun-20 03:38 AM] Snow#2761
oof did i murder the chat


[30-Jun-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Wrong until they're right. Natural disasters are also good reasons to have a bunker with a bunch of food.


[30-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
What I'm saying is, while some of the reasons for it are ridiculous, prepping isn't.


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[30-Jun-20 03:41 AM] Snow#2761
i don't think it's making fun of preppers i think it's making fun of people who are constantly saying "the west is collapsing the west is collapsing the west is collapsing the west is collapsing the west is collapsing"


[30-Jun-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it says nothing about preppers and everything about those who keep saying the west is collapsing


[30-Jun-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Jun-20 03:46 AM] Snow#2761

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[30-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in China
The new strain, scientists say, is carried by pigs but can infect humans and requires close monitoring.
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[30-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
China has a problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54

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How wildlife trade is linked to coronavirus
And why the disease first appeared in China.

NOTE: As our expert Peter Li points out in the video, “The majority of the people in China do not eat wildlife animals. Those people who consume these wildlife animals are the rich and the powerful –a small minority.”  This video e...
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[30-Jun-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Wet markets.


[30-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Need to be straight up banned.


[30-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not a long cultural tradition


[30-Jun-20 03:49 AM] Honahue#0656
wet markets are just markets that sell perishable goods, your butcher is a wet market


[30-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My butcher doesn't keep pigs in the back and kill them to order, all without any inspection or standards


[30-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, and it's something the CPC encourages for weird reasons


[30-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Comes from the days of famine


[30-Jun-20 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah they need some kinda regulation but good luck with that in rural China


[30-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US you can't slaughter your own cow


[30-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Pontology#1010
You can't?


[30-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but there is a black market in unpasturized milk


[30-Jun-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Honahue#0656
there are mobile butchers too


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I'd believe no for selling, without some sanitation inspection


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Pontology#1010
But not even for personal consumption?


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, it's no selling


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Pontology#1010
ah ok


[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Snow#2761

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[30-Jun-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You couldn't have a wet market in the US


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Honahue#0656
and I'd be sup even of the US meat packing industry cause they use a lot of prison and illegal immigrant labor so if there's a violation there's not much insentive to report it


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not for land animals at least


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah, people at Perdue wear diapers


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard to get a bathroom break.


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Aw shit, here we go again


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Can we just


[30-Jun-20 03:53 AM] Yuri#4154
Skip to 2021


[30-Jun-20 03:54 AM] wren#0114
not today sweaty


[30-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Don't tell the diaperfags


[30-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Yuri#4154
:cryign:


[30-Jun-20 03:54 AM] wren#0114
we have to deal with the saharan dust clouds first


[30-Jun-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
2020 is just that "but it keeps getting faster" meme


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Snow#2761
did you guys miss this


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] wren#0114
it's as if 2018 and 2019 were bottle episodes


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Snow#2761
this was a couple days ago


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Snow#2761

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[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] wren#0114
kek


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Woah


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[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Snow#2761
this is also how the chernobyl disaster first broke in western news outlets


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Yuri#4154
Oh for fuck's sake


[30-Jun-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
And House from Fallout was born on June 25th of this year.


[30-Jun-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
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[30-Jun-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wasn't there, like, an explosion heard somewhere around northern Russia some months ago


[30-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Yuri#4154
What if we all died in 2012


[30-Jun-20 03:57 AM] Yuri#4154
And this is hell


[30-Jun-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then it took a little while to manifest lol


[30-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010

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[30-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Yuri#4154
I mean


[30-Jun-20 03:58 AM] Yuri#4154
Have you felt alive since 2012?


[30-Jun-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk


[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Snow#2761

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[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, but that's mostly personal issues, like losing my dad


[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Snow#2761
you think the world ended in 2012 lmao


[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Snow#2761
obviously it ended in 1914


[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Yuri#4154
Also, what happened to the murder hornets?


[30-Jun-20 03:59 AM] Snow#2761
i guess they're just here now


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Yuri#4154
Seems like that plot point just got dropped


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Pontology#1010
they made the simulation lag


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
they were too good


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, they're appearing here around southern Brazil


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
murdered themselves


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Yuri#4154
It's bad writing if you ask me


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Pontology#1010
^


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Snow#2761
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 oh god


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uh, no, wait


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No that's a locust swarm


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not the hornets


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Snow#2761
as if south america needed more insane insects


[30-Jun-20 04:00 AM] Yuri#4154
Oh hey, I read something about that in that funny old book once


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] wren#0114
the murder hornets were wiped out by the other disasters


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Honahue#0656
can you imagine write the plagues form Exodus but with 2020's problems


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Yuri#4154
Shame what happened to that Jesus character


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] Yuri#4154
I liked him


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] wren#0114
I heard they're bringing Him back in the reboot


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Spoiler: ||he comes back||


[30-Jun-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
||but only for a brief time it seems||


[30-Jun-20 04:02 AM] Yuri#4154
I read that part, but they completely flanderised his character there


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Yuri#4154
If we're going to do that, though, can we just skip to the multiheaded dragons and battles with demons already?


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You should read up on the islamic apocalypse


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] wren#0114
dont tempt 2020


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pretty interesting


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Snow#2761
the islamic apocalypse is metal as fuck


[30-Jun-20 04:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Muslim Jesus and Christian Jesus are on opposite sides iirc


[30-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Yuri#4154
Gimme a brief summary


[30-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Snow#2761
what about mormon jesus


[30-Jun-20 04:04 AM] wren#0114
this would make a great fighting game


[30-Jun-20 04:04 AM] Yuri#4154
Moses main btw


[30-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Muslim Jesus and Christian Jesus are the same and Jesus is the most important prophet but Muslim believe he was only a prophet not the son of God


[30-Jun-20 04:05 AM] wren#0114
elijah for the flaming chariot super


[30-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Yuri#4154
Whore of Babylon is super OP though


[30-Jun-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> While the Quran is not explicit about Jesus' return,[34] many Muslims believe that at least two Quranic verses refer to his second coming during the end times.[35] The probably most significant verse is Surah 4:157: "And [for] their saying, 'Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.' And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain." The other states: "And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.” (43:61)."[35] The Arabic language is not clear, as to who the people of the book have to believe in. Tabari author of one of the most important Sunni Tafsirs argues, the verse refers to Jesus, who will unite all believers under the banner of Islam.[35] Hadiths further elaborate the events following Jesus arrival.[36] According to Sahih al-Bukhari, Jesus will descend among Muslims, break the cross, kill the pig and abolish the Jizya.[35] Although traced back to Abu Hurairah, one of the sahaba, such hadiths might actually have been introduced later during civil wars in the early Abbasid Caliphate, when a savior was expected. While for Shias, the Mahdi will be the savior, some Sunnis tended to expect Jesus' return. During the early Abbasid Caliphate, wearing crucifixes in proccesions and holding pigs in public, was forbidden. Otherwise, the breaking of the cross, might reflect general disapproval of this symbol by Muslims, and slaying pigs a reference to Jesus exorcism of Legion.[36]


[30-Jun-20 04:05 AM] Yuri#4154
Nerf pls


[30-Jun-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, if i'm getting this right


[30-Jun-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's the Mahdi and Jesus


[30-Jun-20 04:06 AM] wren#0114
the worst boss is the four horsemen tag team


[30-Jun-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Jesus is the Mahdi's stand power, basically


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
Islam is a JoJo reference


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
@wren fucking Death mains online


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
They're toxic af


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] wren#0114
edgelords


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
I want the Bible done up as a Jojo anime it would probably be pretty cool


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
That reminds me


[30-Jun-20 04:07 AM] wren#0114
samson kinda sucks unless you get technical with his grappling


[30-Jun-20 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, the bible could sure use more buff posing dudes and hovering katakana letters


[30-Jun-20 04:08 AM] Yuri#4154
Y'all should read that manga about Jesus and Buddha living together in modern times


[30-Jun-20 04:08 AM] wren#0114
I tried watching it


[30-Jun-20 04:08 AM] wren#0114
too weird lmao


[30-Jun-20 04:09 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue I mean in the end-times prophecies, what Muslims think Jesus will do and what Christians think Jesus will do are in opposition


[30-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Yuri#4154
@wren you should start maining Lilith btw


[30-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Yuri#4154
Others get too... distracted against her, scoring you an easy win


[30-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Also, the Abrahamic religions' conceptions of God are so different that they're completely different characters


[30-Jun-20 04:10 AM] wren#0114
never heard of her b4 wtf


[30-Jun-20 04:10 AM] Yuri#4154
This doesn't seem to work on Jesus mains though


[30-Jun-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC the word "succubus" means "one who lies beneath"


[30-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Yuri#4154
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

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Lilith (; Hebrew: לִילִית Lîlîṯ) is a figure in Jewish mythology, developed earliest in the Babylonian Talmud (3rd to 5th century AD). From c. AD 700–1000 onwards Lilith appears as Adam's first wife, created at the same time (Rosh Hashanah) and from the same clay as Adam—compa...
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[30-Jun-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know what that means without furher ado then


[30-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Yuri#4154
I only know about her because I played Binding of Isaac


[30-Jun-20 04:11 AM] Yuri#4154
:bigbrain:


[30-Jun-20 04:12 AM] wren#0114
they banned david from tournament play because his sling was too op


[30-Jun-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or by looking at futa pony porn and noticing oc names


[30-Jun-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
.p oc:lilith


[30-Jun-20 04:12 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[30-Jun-20 04:12 AM] wren#0114
now why did I know that lilith but not the other one


[30-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1277747133484011521?s=19

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[30-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>EA


[30-Jun-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China bought the DLC


[30-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Yuri#4154
Reusing plot threads?


[30-Jun-20 04:22 AM] Yuri#4154
That's lazy writing


[30-Jun-20 04:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/testing-increase-blamed-covid-19-170359459.html

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Testing increase blamed for Covid-19 case rise
The Mayor of Leicester Sir Peter Soulsby claims the rise in coronavirus case numbers in the area is due to a substantive increase in testing as the government considers implementing localised lockdown measures. .
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[30-Jun-20 04:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
brits are using trumps excuse. testing = more cases.


[30-Jun-20 04:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Well I mean Americans did originate from Britain so I wouldn't expect them to be too far off :shrugpony:


[30-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Is it entirely wrong?


[30-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Pontology#1010
I had covid symptoms a few months ago


[30-Jun-20 04:59 AM] Pontology#1010
I couldn't get tested due to a shortage of testing kits and that my symptoms weren't severe


[30-Jun-20 05:11 AM] jlun2#8758
more like arguing "we could easily get 0 cases by having 0 testing"


[30-Jun-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
(0 cases reported, not actual)


[30-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm just saying, it's reasonable that increased testing leads to increased case counts


[30-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
What really matters is the death rate


[30-Jun-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
According to the Stanford study, a lot of people with it don't even have symptoms


[30-Jun-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Case count can be very misleading unless everyone is tested.


[30-Jun-20 05:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Case count is important for a lot more than just having a bottom-line number


[30-Jun-20 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The more you test, the more accurate a picture you get of where and how the virus is spreading - and it's not like we can predict where it's going like a hurricane, even with what seems like obvious situations like "hey, this nursing home got a case, guess it's doomed" or "hey there was a huge gathering of 5000 people in a building and none of them were wearing masks." Frequent testing, testing that's done even in populations that are asymptomatic, is really important for the instances where, say, a daycare worker spends the day with 20 kids and shows no symptoms but those kids brought something besides macaroni art home to their parents


[30-Jun-20 05:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The real bottom line is this. Elected officials and others in positions of power are pushing for decreased testing, because case count is the metric they're beholden to for reopening their economies, and they have decided that the economy is more important than the health and security of the people in that economy


[30-Jun-20 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
testing everyone isn't ideal either becuase false positives and negative there's a statistical game doctors play when ordering test though more people should be tested for covid especially if they work in jobs that might make them more likely to contact it


[30-Jun-20 05:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-53221741

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Penalty fines for missing school next term
Parents could be fined if children miss school in the autumn - but heads reject this approach.
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[30-Jun-20 05:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
corona or fine.


[30-Jun-20 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
When you've got a situation where you literally can't get tested unless you're actively showing symptoms and have knowingly been in contact with a positive case, and you have the money to cover it, the statistical bias there almost certainly outweighs the accuracy of the test (we've more or less figured out which tests are duds by now)


[30-Jun-20 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, the weekly surge and dip in the data isn't because covid takes the weekend off, it's because people getting tested are


[30-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
does anyone have a link to that turnpipe coronavirus post?


[30-Jun-20 06:21 AM] Crow#5457
it shows the graph for the coronavirus in the US compared to europe


[30-Jun-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
and makes a joke about how the US made a halfpipe instead of flattening the curve


[30-Jun-20 06:25 AM] Treascair#7785
half pipe, actually... one moment


[30-Jun-20 06:26 AM] Treascair#7785
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[30-Jun-20 06:40 AM] Crow#5457
yeah I meant halfpipe, I keep typing turnpipe when I mean halfpipe lol


[30-Jun-20 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
https://tenor.com/view/tony-hawk-fail-ouch-ithink-ibroke-my-arms-spin-gif-16804291

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[30-Jun-20 07:18 AM] Synfag#9241
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[30-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
@Yuri https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/06/26/native-amazonians-americans-and-monkeys-show-similar-thinking-patterns/

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Native Amazonians, Americans and monkeys show similar thinking patt...
Primates’ neural computations shed new light on the evolution of language
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[30-Jun-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
> Humans and monkeys may not speak the same lingo, but our ways of thinking are a lot more similar than previously thought, according to new research from UC Berkeley, Harvard University and Carnegie Mellon University.
> 
> In experiments on 100 study participants across age groups, cultures and species, researchers found that indigenous Tsimane’ people in Bolivia’s Amazon rainforest, American adults and preschoolers and macaque monkeys all show, to varying degrees, a knack for “recursion,” a cognitive process of arranging words, phrases or symbols in a way that helps convey complex commands, sentiments and ideas.
> 
> The findings, published today (Friday, June 26) in the journal Science Advances, shed new light on our understanding of the evolution of language, researchers said.
> 
> “For the first time, we have strong empirical evidence about patterns of thinking that come naturally to probably all humans and, to a lesser extent, non-human primates,” said study co-author Steven Piantadosi, a UC Berkeley assistant professor of psychology.


[30-Jun-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
return to monke


[30-Jun-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
> Is it "If men can be women, then women have nothing?"
@Itsthinking Yes, that is it.


[30-Jun-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
TERF is all about the idea that if you make gender meaningless, then you can't destroy manhood with a giant laser of doom, and thus it has won.


[30-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, maleness is a disease of violence and abandonment of family, feminism should say it's okay to be female, and not okay to be male, therefore, no males can change gender to female.


[30-Jun-20 09:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's old-fashioned sexism in a new wrapper.


[30-Jun-20 09:01 AM] jlun2#8758
so do they support self cloning all female only species?


[30-Jun-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically.


[30-Jun-20 09:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53225720

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India bans TikTok and dozens more Chinese apps
The Indian government says it has banned 59 apps with links to China on national security grounds.
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[30-Jun-20 09:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why the fuck is TikTok so popular used abroad...


[30-Jun-20 09:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's the most shitty social media I've ever used


[30-Jun-20 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
because there was never a replacement for vine


[30-Jun-20 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
and there's obviously some desire for short meme videos


[30-Jun-20 10:02 AM] Synfag#9241

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[30-Jun-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hk-activists-disband-delete-social-posts-china-pass-security-law-2020-6

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Pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong are disbanding and deleting th...
Hong Kongers are deleting posts and pictures from social media, fearing China could use them in prosecutions under the new National Security Law.
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[30-Jun-20 01:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Ohmygod


[30-Jun-20 01:27 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuck was that?


[30-Jun-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/505139-millions-fear-eviction-without-more-aid-from-congress

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Millions fear eviction without more aid from Congress
Millions of tenants are at risk of receiving eviction notices in late July as protections from a major coronavirus stimulus program are set to expire.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_rent_dc_052820getty_evictions.jpg


[30-Jun-20 01:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Looks like communism won after all


[30-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Synfag#9241

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[30-Jun-20 02:24 PM] Synfag#9241
hash tag not all


[30-Jun-20 02:25 PM] Synfag#9241
at least Trump is wrong on the *"all"* part


[30-Jun-20 02:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
democrats=violnce?


[30-Jun-20 02:34 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/25/trump-keeps-claiming-that-most-dangerous-cities-america-are-all-run-by-democrats-they-arent/


[30-Jun-20 02:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Late but finally

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[30-Jun-20 02:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[30-Jun-20 02:59 PM] Yuri#4154
🦀🦀🦀


[30-Jun-20 03:00 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
By the way, three of the four major leaders of Hong Kong Revolution left the team


[30-Jun-20 03:02 PM] Raptorshy#6268
TIL trump had a twitch channel


[30-Jun-20 03:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Huang Zhifeng, Luo Guancong and Zhou Ting


[30-Jun-20 03:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I only know Luo Guancong tho


[30-Jun-20 03:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah things are looking dire for them


[30-Jun-20 03:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some of their persons are switching to the CCP side


[30-Jun-20 03:05 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't understand why


[30-Jun-20 03:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway these three guys said they will still fight against CCP, but only as individuals, not leading the team


[30-Jun-20 03:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trying to save face?


[30-Jun-20 03:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, they know they're politically doomed by this point


[30-Jun-20 03:09 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Or maybe inside conflicts of the team


[30-Jun-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many HKers are already applying for foreign asylum iirc


[30-Jun-20 03:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yes


[30-Jun-20 03:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Several weeks ago, HKers just started to argue with each other one Twitter


[30-Jun-20 03:13 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because of the opponent attitudes to the riots in America


[30-Jun-20 04:10 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1277940165357551618?s=09

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White supremacist, Jeremy Christian, yelled at Demetria Hester: 'I should have killed you, b***h!' at his sentencing hearing.

He physically attacked her the day before he killed 2 men on a train in Portland for defending 2 Black teens who he yelled racist, anti-Muslim slurs ...
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[30-Jun-20 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1277779304089366528?s=20

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If y'all really wanna talk about looting the middle class...

3 months ago we got $1200 to buy a $3200 pill that cost $70M taxes to make for a virus that's killed 128K people & infected 2.6M while 27M lost healthcare, 40M lost their jobs, & 600 billionaires gained $585B in we...
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[30-Jun-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
I'm done https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1277977452187275266?s=09

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THE LONE WARRIOR!
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[30-Jun-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck it


[30-Jun-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
What does this even mean?


[30-Jun-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Heck, it means stupid


[30-Jun-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
But seriously tho, he doesn't even know what those words really means


[30-Jun-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-to-retaliate-against-russia-by-sending-jared-kushner-to-advise-kremlin-on-coronavirus-response (satire)

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Trump to Retaliate Against Russia by Sending Jared Kushner to Advis...
“To those who thought this President was not taking the Russians’ actions seriously, this response should speak for itself,” the White House press secretary said.
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[30-Jun-20 05:19 PM] illumnious#7938
> What does this even mean?
@prism stryder(intexda) he fight alone which is stupid of him for fucking up the country

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[30-Jun-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> another definition is: An individual who makes sacrafices for a spiritual or moral reason. An idividual who is not selfish, greedy, or disrespectful. A survivor or hero in some eyes.


[30-Jun-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is none of these things


[30-Jun-20 05:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Which all of this is a biggest LIE


[30-Jun-20 05:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Now kill me


[30-Jun-20 05:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm afraid we're already dead. This is hell.


[30-Jun-20 06:00 PM] wren#0114
2020 is the merging of all the failed timelines that branch off of a protag's bad time travel decision, and he's trying to undo the change


[30-Jun-20 06:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Well, where's super hell when we need it


[30-Jun-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
> 2020 is the merging of all the failed timelines that branch off of a protag's bad time travel decision, and he's trying to undo the change
@wren it's not going to work darling.


[30-Jun-20 06:02 PM] wren#0114
one can try

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[30-Jun-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-agreed-to-delete-white-power-tweet-after-tim-scott-demanded-he-do-so-2020-6

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Trump reportedly agreed to delete his 'white power' tweet only afte...
In interviews on Sunday, the senator called the video "indefensible" and said the president should take it down.
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[30-Jun-20 06:14 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/obviousplant_/status/1277997404956946432?s=19

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Hey I Have Got Idea!
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[30-Jun-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/facial-recognition-fails-96-of-the-time-detroit-police-chief-2020-6

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Facial recognition software fails to correctly identify people '96 ...
Facial recognition technology misidentifies criminal suspects 96% of the time, according to the Detroit Police Chief.
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[30-Jun-20 06:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Still under beta


[30-Jun-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/505195-supreme-court-hands-win-to-religious-schools

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Supreme Court hands win to religious schools
The Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that a Montana program that excluded religious schools from a student aid initiative violates religious freedoms protected under the U.S. Constitution.
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[30-Jun-20 06:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Look who's talking
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1276320321558192135?s=19

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President Trump may lose this election. 
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[30-Jun-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Messages like that are just to get viewers scared Trump might lose


[30-Jun-20 06:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/504105-mcgrath-beats-booker-for-democratic-senate-nomination-in-kentucky

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/504105-mcgrath-beats-booker-for-democratic-senate-nomination-in-kentucky
McGrath fends off Booker to win Kentucky Senate primary
Former Marine combat pilot Amy McGrath won the Democratic Senate primary in Kentucky on Tuesday, overcoming an unexpectedly fierce challenge from progressive state Rep. Charles Booker.
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[30-Jun-20 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/505231-supreme-court-rules-bookingcom-can-trademark-name

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Supreme Court rules Booking.com can trademark name
The Supreme Court on Tuesday cleared the way for online travel agency Booking.com to trademark its name, ruling that the domain name is distinct enough to qualify for registration.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/scotus_supremecourt_012219gn2.jpg


[30-Jun-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/postinmonkey/status/1277439124014682113?s=21

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Tool Tim (uuuuuuuuAH?) (@PostinMonkey)
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Can’t believe this keeps happening
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[30-Jun-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I can;t believe people keep vandalizing their own yards too, it;s crazy


[30-Jun-20 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505239-poll-finds-biden-with-narrow-lead-over-trump-in-missouri

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Poll finds Biden with narrow lead over Trump in Missouri
A new  poll commissioned by Democrats finds former Vice President Joe Biden leading President Trump by 2 points in Missouri, which went for Trump by 19 points in 2016.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_trumpdonald_061820getty_split.jpg


[30-Jun-20 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The polls always say this but it's never the case


[30-Jun-20 07:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/korea-show-united-front-70-years-start-korean-war-200625032838732.html

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S Korea, US show united front 70 years after start of Korean War
Millions died in the conflict on the Korean Peninsula, but a formal peace treaty has never been signed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/6/25/7cfcd4f82b1741678b11747d20af01ac_18.jpg


[30-Jun-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/internethippo/status/1278022820312674304?s=21

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chief posting officer (@InternetHippo)
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i am dead and in hell
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[30-Jun-20 08:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Bar Lives Matter?


[30-Jun-20 08:04 PM] illumnious#7938
:WAT:


[30-Jun-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah truly the most oppressed group: Buildings themselves


[30-Jun-20 08:09 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck me


[30-Jun-20 08:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53218788

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Syria 'faces mass starvation' without more aid
A million Syrians are severely food insecure and some are already dying, the head of the WFP warns.
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[30-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Politics?In my minecraft?

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[30-Jun-20 08:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[30-Jun-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/some-private-schools-getting-more-virus-relief-funding-than-public-schools-under-devos-formula

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Some private schools getting more virus relief funding than public ...
The Trump administration is moving forward with a policy ordering public schools across the U.S. to share coronavirus relief funding with private schools at a higher rate than federal law typically requires.
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[30-Jun-20 08:41 PM] illumnious#7938
YouTube Has Suspended Monetization On Shane Dawson's YouTube Channels https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/youtube-has-suspended-monetization-on-all-shane-dawson

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YouTube Has Suspended Monetization On Shane Dawson's YouTube Channels
The company's actions come after the massively popular YouTuber apologized for "all of the racism" he's posted.
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[30-Jun-20 08:42 PM] illumnious#7938
I guess it's about time YouTube using their head instead of their ass


[30-Jun-20 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-temporarily-blocks-mary-trump-tell-all-book-2020-6

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Mary Trump's tell-all book temporarily blocked from being published
A New York judge on Tuesday temporarily barred President Donald Trump's niece, Mary Trump, from publishing her new tell-all book.
https://i.insider.com/5efb7e393f73703fd86333f6?width=1200&format=jpeg


[30-Jun-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505273-red-states-moving-bills-to-curb-mail-in-voting-pandemic

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Red states advancing bills to curb mail-in voting
GOP legislators in states across the country are advancing bills that would prevent elections officials from sending out absentee ballot applications ahead of November's election, even in states where those top officials are fellow Republican
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/absentee_ballot_votebymail_032920getty.jpg


[30-Jun-20 09:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nhs-clap-bankers-coronavirus-a9593266.html

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Boris Johnson says we must also 'clap for bankers who make our NHS ...
Prime minister appears to rule out tax hikes on rich to pay for the economic crash sparked by coronavirus
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[30-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Yuri#4154
This is satire, right?


[30-Jun-20 09:58 PM] Yuri#4154
... _right?_


[30-Jun-20 10:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
please clap


[30-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boris is reverse satire.


[30-Jun-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
You make a joke and he's like "that sounds like a good idea, yes let's eat Irish babies"


[30-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then the baby-preparation commission turns out to be a tax front for the mob.


[30-Jun-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
The illegally-labelled strawberry pie mob.


[30-Jun-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/WBTV_News/status/1278063760285065223?s=20

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WBTV News (@WBTV_News)
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A man was shot outside of a restaurant after an argument that was at least partly about Governor Roy Cooper’s face covering requirement, police say. https://t.co/SBCs273pFl
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[30-Jun-20 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I will be honest, I didn't expect *this* to be society's tipping point


[30-Jun-20 10:45 PM] jlun2#8758
?


[30-Jun-20 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is, I had a suspicion for a good long while that things were gonna get ugly within my lifetime. I didn't think it'd be over wearing masks


[30-Jun-20 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I already had my generational paradigm shift in 2001, like come on


[30-Jun-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope this doesnt result in more NC shootouts over fucking masks


[30-Jun-20 10:47 PM] Pontology#1010
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-blocks-25-capacity-rule-religious-services-ny-71480425

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Judge blocks 25% capacity rule for religious services in NY
A federal judge has blocked New York state from enforcing coronavirus restrictions limiting indoor religious gatherings to 25% capacity when other types of gatherings are limited to 50%
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[30-Jun-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Tha's what i need, for shit to be too violent to pick up groceries in fear of someone shooting up the walmart because they have a mask requirement


[30-Jun-20 10:48 PM] jlun2#8758
> I already had my generational paradigm shift in 2001, like come on
?


[30-Jun-20 10:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't think I needed to spell it out, but 9/11


[30-Jun-20 10:49 PM] jlun2#8758
oh ty


[30-Jun-20 10:50 PM] jlun2#8758
i only remember the month & date but not year >.<


[30-Jun-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
school became a lot more "patriotic" after that


[30-Jun-20 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i have "god bless the usa" in my head


[30-Jun-20 11:00 PM] Yuri#4154
I'm not gonna lie, I always found the way Mericans seem to worship their flag fucking creepy


[30-Jun-20 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as an american, i find it jsut as creepy


[30-Jun-20 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in high school i stopped standing for the flag


[30-Jun-20 11:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
The American narrative is freedoms are good, the flag is freedom, the gov't is the flag, if you touch that flag, you should be shot to death you fukking brown person.


[30-Jun-20 11:02 PM] Yuri#4154
But those that say that seem to be the ones that have shit like flag underwear


[30-Jun-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my middle school and high school years, the song "god bless america" was everywhere. ont he radio, in school chorus shows, in school assemblies, ect


[30-Jun-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also print trumps face on the flag which is literally illegal


[30-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Yuri#4154
Oh god


[30-Jun-20 11:07 PM] Yuri#4154
You made me imagine flag underwear with Trump's face


[30-Jun-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
having pride in a country based on the fact that you were born in it, is a cultish thought to me


[30-Jun-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again, america is less a country and more a religion now


[30-Jun-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We really need it to start being a country again


[30-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/media/mary-trump-book/index.html

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Judge temporarily blocks publication of tell-all book by President ...
A New York judge on Tuesday temporarily blocked the publication of an unflattering tell-all book written by President Trump's niece that Simon & Schuster is set to publish in July.
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[30-Jun-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is an important case.


[30-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is trying to enforce a non-disclosure agreement much like the ones he makes people in the White House sign.


[30-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
An absolutely stupid agreement binding people just because "it would embarass me" etc.


[30-Jun-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which Mary was likely forced to agree to despite never signing.


[30-Jun-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some of those NDAs can get crazy


[30-Jun-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ask Mike Bloomberg


[30-Jun-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/505301-language-to-boost-election-security-removed-from-senate-intelligence

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Language to boost election security removed from Senate intelligenc...
A measure that would require presidential campaigns to report attempts by foreign nationals to interfere in elections was removed from the Senate’s bipartisan Intelligence Authorization Act, Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) said Tuesday.
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[30-Jun-20 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I appreciate the angle this article provides in comparison to the one linked from rawstory/CNN


[30-Jun-20 11:38 PM] Pontology#1010
American patriotism isn't based on "country I was born in"


[30-Jun-20 11:39 PM] Pontology#1010
It's based on the unique aspects of America that make us proud to be American.


[30-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Pontology#1010
Most people who find our patriotism creepy are Europeans for whom flags are rooted in ethnic nationalism, which is not the foundation of America. America is civic-nationalist.


[30-Jun-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yeah, i tried to find a better source


[30-Jun-20 11:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point flew right over your head.


[30-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's all about conflation.


[30-Jun-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hear "all men are created equal", say "that's lit fam", and then also that THOMAS JEFFERSON said that, so he's lit, and that he loved the flag, so it's lit, and then the country is the flag, so it's lit.


[30-Jun-20 11:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
And then when someone is expressing part of that freedom given to them by our ideals, you go "but wait, burning the flag is saying America is bad is saying that freedom is bad, that's not lit!"


[30-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The entire idea is that whatever American patriotism is actually based on, it can be shifted to other things via conflational replacement.


[30-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Pontology#1010
America is one of the only countries that allows the burning of its own flag. Most European countries prohibit it.


[30-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Pontology#1010
The fact that burning our flag is constitutionally protected is itself a point of pride.


[30-Jun-20 11:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of "patriots" don't see it that way, and are mad that people want that freedom.


[30-Jun-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also there's a reason Merkel when she sees someone waving the German flag like crazy who is with her, will *take it from them*.


[30-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Flag waving leads to thinking about vague shit instead of the political actuals, which then means the flag can be planted in new territory like racist ideals, that then can grow it into hatred.


[30-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Pontology#1010
Ironically, in Germany, it's not only illegal to burn the German flag, but also the American flag.


[30-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, if we really value our freedoms, we should scoff at people who wave the flag a lot, but let them do so, and also let them burn it.


[30-Jun-20 11:45 PM] Pontology#1010
Why should we scoff at people who wave the flag a lot?


[30-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, it's "vague shit", so what


[30-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because they're valuing some stupid piece of fabric, and are likely easily manipulated.


[30-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
What they should be waving is a copy of the bill of rights.


[30-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Pontology#1010
The flag is tied up with the Bill of Rights


[30-Jun-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
No it isn't.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I see nothing in that flag about any of the amendments.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Winston#2894
The bill of rights is a piece of paper and easily manipulated as well, though


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
And I see that flag on no amendments either.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes it is, inasmuch as the Bill of Rights was part of the original constitution before the states joined the union. It was the condition for many states; that's why they're there.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The bill of rights has inherent meaning about our freedoms.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Winston#2894
We shouldn't just be "waving" things and pretending that's the foundation for how to run a society or decide our loyalties


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Pontology#1010
States said, "We won't sign the constitution unless there's a bill of rights"


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is the most pure symbol of that freedom there is.


[30-Jun-20 11:47 PM] Pontology#1010
That's why the bill of rights has a special place among the amendments: it's part of the original condition for the signing


[30-Jun-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
A flag saying there are states has little to do with states having been given a thing.


[30-Jun-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The bill of rights came after the signing, note.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Winston#2894
There's a difference between waving a copy of the bill of rights, and actually reading the damned things and engaging in meaningful discourse on them so that we can make sensible modern interpretations of how to implement those protections


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think if we actually waved around the words about our rights, it might make people a bit less gung ho about denying rights.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Someone will wave something, inevitably.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not great that that something is so detached.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or that waving itself is celebrated.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Pontology#1010
No, a number of states didn't sign the Constitution until after the Bill of Rights


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Pontology#1010
That was the whole point of it


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, perhaps even better is the 14th amendment.


[30-Jun-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The one that actually says to treat people equally.


[30-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really should've been in the original bill of rights, but you know, the South and all.


[30-Jun-20 11:50 PM] Pontology#1010
yeah. Like Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration of Independence included slavery as a grievance, but the south veto'd it


[30-Jun-20 11:51 PM] Pontology#1010
But on that note, the modern U.S. flag is well after the 14th amendment.


[30-Jun-20 11:51 PM] Pontology#1010
One of the reasons the original 13-star flag is controversial is it was flown before those amendments, even if it was also flown in free states


[01-Jul-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of my issues with the flag waving is the poeple usually doing it scream about their constitutional rights while also screaming about how only they should have them


[01-Jul-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also tend to omit parts of constitutional articles and amendments


[01-Jul-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s basically become a second bible for them to pick and choose from and this in turn has made the american flag more of a cult symbol than it was intended to be


[01-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Jesus and the Founding Fathers is a theme with some people which is weird


[01-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Flag burning still pisses a lot people off


[01-Jul-20 12:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They point to the flag, tell you to worship it and if you dare step out of line to fight for your rights granted to you by the bill of rights and the constitution they call you heretic and a traitor


[01-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
it piss off people that fuck up flag code anyway


[01-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-reusable-falcon-rockets-europe-response/amp/

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SpaceX’s reusable Falcon rockets have Europe thinking two steps ahe...
In a rare instance of some connection to reality, a European Union commissioner overseeing the…


[01-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
tl;dr, ESA is screwed.


[01-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ariane 6 was designed to compete with like, Falcon 9 block 1.


[01-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
SpaceX has pretty much cut their cost in half.


[01-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ariane 6 will thus be completely commercially nonviable.


[01-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I have never heard of any flag-waiving American complaining about people fighting for their constitutional rights


[01-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Pontology#1010
In Germany, it is illegal to burn the American flag because it's something like anti-American hate speech


[01-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Finding flag-burning repugnant is very different from wanting to ban it.


[01-Jul-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If you don;t like it, leave" "How dare you kneel to the flag in protest, you unamerican traitor"


[01-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Pontology#1010
That's complaining about people disrespecting the flag, not complaining about people fighting for their constitutional rights.


[01-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Pontology#1010
A gun rights person could burn the flag protesting for more gun rights, and pro-2A Americans would still find it disgusting.


[01-Jul-20 12:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were literally protesting for the 14th amendment


[01-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not what they're protesting for but how. Metaphorically spitting on the American flag.


[01-Jul-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when thye kneeled to the flag they were protesting in honor of the 14th amendment and police brutality against black people


[01-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Refusing to stand for the flag comes across as anti-American symbolism.


[01-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
They could scarcely have chosen a way to protest that would turn off patriots more.


[01-Jul-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's what i'm saying, patriotism has turned into a cult instead of a desire to see the country prosper and improve


[01-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Refusing to stand for the flag is the same thing as refusing to wave it...


[01-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've switched argument positions.


[01-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Demanding people pay homage to this symbol after just talking about how they hav a right to not respect it, and how it isn't what America stands for, is inconsistent.


[01-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Just because something is a right doesn't mean it's right. You have the right to advocate the overthrow of the U.S. government.


[01-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
And that's a terrible thing to advocate.


[01-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
If patriotism is truly to our freedoms, then it need not demand we stand for some flag.


[01-Jul-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the state of the US government


[01-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is saying to overthrow the US gov't because they refuse to accept the flag as a substitute for freedom.


[01-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm saying how it's not inconsistent.


[01-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taking a knee during the anthem is protesting that the fact that our guarantee of freedom has been violated by the institutions demanding we stand for the flag.


[01-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Pontology#1010
You have the right to advocate nazism or literally anything. People will still complain about un-American things.


[01-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Pontology#1010
While not wanting to take away your rights to advocate those things.


[01-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem awfully miffed that people want their actual freedom, and not whatever symbol you think stands for it.


[01-Jul-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> While not wanting to take away your rights to advocate those things.


[01-Jul-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of those flag wavers are demanding the right to kneel be stripped from people actually


[01-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
That's un-American, the right-wing version of wanting to ban hate speech


[01-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Such people exist, and fortunately have no constitutional grounds


[01-Jul-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half of them run the us senate


[01-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
The Supreme Court would over-rule any such law, if one managed to actually be passed


[01-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Just like the Supreme Court ruled that flag burning is free speech


[01-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when Trump says we should throw out people who kneel, he's being un-American, right?


[01-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Pontology#1010
If he means the government should, absolutely


[01-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm aware that Trump has expressed support for banning flag burning, and that's a terrible, un-American, and unconstitutional proposition


[01-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Pontology#1010
That fortunately has no way of being realized, since it's unconstitutional


[01-Jul-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hence why he;s trying to stack the scotus so he can pass unconstitutional rulings


[01-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, if Gorsuch rules on this stuff against Trump.


[01-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll be absolutely hilarious.


[01-Jul-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/505300-mcconnell-warns-democrats-not-to-change-filibuster-rule

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McConnell warns Democrats not to change filibuster rule
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) warned Democrats on Tuesday not to mess with the filibuster rule if they win control of the chamber in November.
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[01-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Gorsuch already has ruled against Trump


[01-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bostock_v._Clayton_County

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Bostock v. Clayton County
Bostock v. Clayton County, 590 U.S. ___ (2020), was a landmark United States Supreme Court civil rights case in which the Court held that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects employees against discrimination because of their sexual orientation or gender identity....


[01-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
a couple of weeks ago


[01-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Surprise, they're principled justices, not trumpists


[01-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Gorsuch is a textualist, and consistently applies that.


[01-Jul-20 12:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that's why Trump is now pissed at gorsuch


[01-Jul-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump nominated gorsuch to stack the court in his favor and it backfired


[01-Jul-20 12:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
My point is if Gorsuch carries that same stuff to free speech, Trump is screwed.


[01-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505343-progressive-groups-urge-biden-to-tap-warren-as-running-mate

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Progressive groups urge Biden to tap Warren as running mate
A pair of national progressive groups are urging former Vice President Joe Biden to tap Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) as his running mate, the latest push by activists to install a liberal on the presidential ticket.
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[01-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
lol no


[01-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Hey guys, what if we made retaking the Senate even more unlikely so we can have an unlikeable VP?"


[01-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
I'd like to see bernie as senate majority leader tbh


[01-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would still likely be Schumer.


[01-Jul-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505345-desantis-says-florida-not-going-back-on-reopening-as-covid-19-cases

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Tuesday that his state is “not going back” on reopening as thousands of new COVID-19 cases continue to be reported every day.
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[01-Jul-20 01:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well that's one way to deal with all these impoverished Floridians who suddenly have the right to vote and are likely to swing blue - kill 'em off


[01-Jul-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Those poor impoverished felons.


[01-Jul-20 02:06 AM] Pontology#1010
>23.3% of black voters in Florida couldn't vote because of felony disenfranchisement.


[01-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Wow, I knew the black crime rate was bad, but I didn't know it was that bad.


[01-Jul-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see the issue of restoring their right to vote once out of prison


[01-Jul-20 02:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize


[01-Jul-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way they set it up, white felons got their voting rights restored, but not blakk felons.


[01-Jul-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the governor had to approve all reenfranchisements, and he would just say "no" even to the most saintly reformed blakk guy, but "yes" to random white trash.


[01-Jul-20 02:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was not required to say why.


[01-Jul-20 02:20 AM] wren#0114
why is that an executive power, when it should be legislative/judicial


[01-Jul-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because that would involve oversight and ruin the whole plan?


[01-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Wiki says the governor restoring voting rights to felons "rarely occurred"


[01-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Wren, it's probably modeled off how the president of the U.S. can pardon people, per the constitution


[01-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a weird thing.


[01-Jul-20 02:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's supposed to be a checks and balances thing but it's really easy to exploit those checks in a lot of cases


[01-Jul-20 02:26 AM] wren#0114
it's weird to remove voting rights in the first place


[01-Jul-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Almost as if to remove a certain demographic of voters from the pool


[01-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Not much weirder than removing the ability of felons to buy firearms


[01-Jul-20 02:26 AM] wren#0114
that's horrible too


[01-Jul-20 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It stems from the idea that they owe a "debt to society" which is fundamental to conservatism. But, since actual debtor's prisons were made illegal in the US long ago, they got creative to find other ways to make those bars follow them. In this case, making the debt literal by disenfranchising them until they paid off their court-related debts, and creating a system where you couldn't get a job that paid well enough to pay it off


[01-Jul-20 02:29 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[01-Jul-20 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So, unless your name is William Zantzinger, that ball and chain will follow you to the grave


[01-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Winston#2894
Not sure if it's really so weird that violent felony offenders can no longer buy firearms


[01-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Winston#2894
I would agree with restoring that right to strictly nonviolent offenders, though


[01-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
It's abridging their constitutional rights past their sentence


[01-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Winston#2894
I dunno about that, either. I think current conservative interpretations of the 2nd amendment are pretty weird too.


[01-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Winston#2894
It doesn't say "give everybody a fukkin gun all willy-nilly like"


[01-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to firearms.


[01-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
No-where else in the constitution does a right of "the people" refer to anything but an individual right, was their reasoning.


[01-Jul-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that shoplifting, drunk driving, and vandalism count as violent felonies


[01-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Winston#2894
Then we should probably revise and/or add more nuanced categories to "violent felon"


[01-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Seems reasonable, property destruction is inherently violent.


[01-Jul-20 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, vandalism is also counted as nonviolent in some instances, too


[01-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Especially shoplifting, which is often at gunpoint, so is on the line with violent threats to humans.


[01-Jul-20 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, no, that's robbery


[01-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
oh, k.


[01-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Winston#2894
That would be armed robbery


[01-Jul-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
shoplifting is stealing stuff *without* threatening someone to hand it over. It's just considered a violent crime because it *could* turn violent or threatening


[01-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Intentional property damage is violence.


[01-Jul-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, racketeering and bribery don't count as threatening and are not considered violent crimes


[01-Jul-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a pattern emerges


[01-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Winston#2894
Intent plays a role in property damage


[01-Jul-20 02:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
white-collar crime is typically not considered violent and usually comes with much lighter sentencing


[01-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Winston#2894
Intentionally damaging property out of malice is a pretty violent thing to do


[01-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Winston#2894
If I tear up your lawn with a bulldozer because I'm pissed at you for whatever reason, I'm acting pretty violent, I think


[01-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Winston#2894
But it's also possible to have accidents or for things to happen negligently that were not the result of a violent intent


[01-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
I think money laundering is better than drunk driving :shrug:


[01-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't really disagree with one having harsher sentences


[01-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Money laundering doesn't jeopardize people's lives.


[01-Jul-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, I can. Sure, drunk driving can mess up someone else's life pretty permanently, but money laundering can impact a *lot* more lives


[01-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Winston#2894
...Except when moneylaundering is being used to enable things that do endanger people's lives?


[01-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Winston#2894
Which is a big reason to launder money in the first place


[01-Jul-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, even if it doesn't *endanger* their lives, it can ruin entire neighborhoods, cities, etc.


[01-Jul-20 02:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or, on the highest levels possible, it becomes a tool for geopolitical maneuvering


[01-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Winston#2894
Exactly


[01-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, like this nice fellow.

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[01-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
hehe


[01-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[01-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"We need to stop letting the US criticize us for loli/shota"


[01-Jul-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kayleigh-mcenany-trump-does-read-is-the-most-informed-person-2020-6

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White House press secretary insists that Trump 'does read' and 'is ...
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[01-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Loli/shota is legal in the U.S. though. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/national/supreme-court-strikes-down-ban-on-virtual-child-pornography.html

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Supreme Court Strikes Down Ban on Virtual Child Pornography
The court ruled today that Congress went too far when it passed a law that treats computer-generated pornography as the real thing.
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[01-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Pontology#1010
If it's drawn art, it's free speech.


[01-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC after that decision there is indeed a law passed that is more specific


[01-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus then you have obscenity


[01-Jul-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part of the whole loli/shota argument is that it;s just a huge distraction so they dont have to make a bigger effort to go after actual child trafficing and real child porn


[01-Jul-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The most objectionable are the people who trace real stuff


[01-Jul-20 02:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
It's pretty bad that a bunch of artists that draw that stuff have been caught with real stuff. You could be seeing something that was based on real stuff just recreated as a drawing.


[01-Jul-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is pretty fucking bad


[01-Jul-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
PROTECT Act


[01-Jul-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

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[01-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Apparently the part of the law prohibiting digital alteration of real pictures of children was not struck down, according to that article.


[01-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Pontology#1010
E.g. photoshopping a child's yearbook photo onto a computer-generated naked child body.


[01-Jul-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"By the statute's own terms, the law does not make all fictional child pornography illegal, only that found to be obscene or lacking in serious value. The mere possession of said images is not a violation of the law unless it can be proven that they were transmitted through a common carrier, such as the mail or the internet, transported across state lines, or of an amount that showed intent to distribute"


[01-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just federal of course, states do more


[01-Jul-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Man, it'd be terrible news for the internet, but imagine how hilarious it'd be if some law somehow outlaws mormon bubble porn


[01-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...what


[01-Jul-20 03:00 AM] Pontology#1010
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mormon-porn-bubble-porn

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Mormon Porn / Bubble Porn
Mormon Porn or Bubble Porn, also known as “Bubble Collage” (Japanese: 水玉コラ, Mizutama Kora) in Japan, refers to photoshoped pictures of girls looking like naked, which are made by concealing their outfits by the “bubbling” technique.
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[01-Jul-20 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is a rabbit hole I'm not really prepared to explain so...let's just say it's evolved even since the examples there


[01-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Swiss cheese porn


[01-Jul-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, so it's like reverse convenient censorship/unecessary censorship


[01-Jul-20 03:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Basically taking pictures from women's clothing magazines and selectively obscuring the clothing they have on using a cut out piece of paper you place over the image to make them appear naked. This is apparently a thing in Mormon groups.


[01-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Funny work-around to their religious no-porn stance


[01-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
This is why Islam just mandates that women be completely covered whenever in public


[01-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Swimsuits haram, except the muzzie swimsuits that cover everything


[01-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe it won't be so bad once "Islam rules the world". It seems to be immune to progressivism.


[01-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...there's a whole branch of Islam that rejects the Hadiths


[01-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh, then they'll only publicly lash adulterers and cut off the hands of thieves while women are legally half of men


[01-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Pontology#1010
As mandated in the Qur'an and as practiced in a dozen Islamic countries.


[01-Jul-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
progressivism and religion are incompatible


[01-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's where you're wrong, kiddo

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[01-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need."- Acts 2:44-45


[01-Jul-20 03:16 AM] wren#0114

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[01-Jul-20 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[01-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
43% reporting, Hickenlooper appears to win Colorado


[01-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not the first time a Romanoff has lost


[01-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus, CO tallies its elections quickly


[01-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Soviets outlawed religion


[01-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
One of the only good things they did was ban circumcision.


[01-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't it more of an awkward co-existence


[01-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

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Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union
Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1917–1991), there were periods when Soviet authorities brutally suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on State interests.  Soviet Marxist-Leninist policy consistently advocated for the...
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[01-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
They also persecuted religious Jews. Religions stood in the way of uniting the proletariat.


[01-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hickenlooper wins


[01-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
As Marx wrote in _On the Jewish Question,_ Judaism needed to be eliminated.


[01-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking obscenity is the most wrong thing SCOTUS did.


[01-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be thrown out in its entirety.


[01-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Pontology#1010
"In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."
– Marx


[01-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Japan is right.


[01-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be censoring them where they can't even hav a say.


[01-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan has really lax laws on this stuff to begin with (albeit they hav censor bats, which are a bit absurd) and as a result people hav outlets and generally nobody is out raping kids.


[01-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Japan didn't outlaw child pornography until 2014


[01-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
They're a funny nation.


[01-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is in contrast to the US and UK, where there are people out raping kids all the damn time, and paying off the police.


[01-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
As it turns out, censorship doesn't ever improve your situation.


[01-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just makes things harder to spot.


[01-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[01-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Japan also has a culture of not reporting sex abuse.


[01-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes, same as the US and UK.


[01-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worse though


[01-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any time you make these taboos, people don't report.


[01-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same shit as gun control, in the end.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you ban sawed-offs entirely, people don't stop making them.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just stop reporting the people that do.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Japan's court system is also kind of f*cked iirc. 99% plead guilty due to extreme pressure.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need the consent of the community to actually enforce laws.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means you need to ban the bad shit *only*.


[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010

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[01-Jul-20 03:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
You got raped? no honour. 🇯🇵 ✝️ ☪️ 🕉️


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Japan forces confessions.


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also has lighter penalties, and a culture of confessing.


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, that's the reason for it


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They absolutely do


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also an inquisitorial system


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is in contrast to the US, where if you're blakk, police make up a confession.


[01-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then the DA makes sure that you stay in jail.


[01-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
:fillyconfused:


[01-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kamala Harris.


[01-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/08/justice-honesty-government-prosecutor-column/24611623/

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Prosecutors protect themselves first: Column
When prosecutors lie and falsify evidence, 'absolute immunity' protects them from justice.
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[01-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
'When the trial judge found out, charges against the defendant were dismissed. Incredibly, the State of California, via Attorney General Kamala Harris, decided to appeal the case. The state's key argument: That putting a fake confession in the transcript wasn't "outrageous" because it didn't involve physical brutality, like chaining someone to a radiator and beating him with a hose.'


[01-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is one of the people looked at to be Biden's VP.


[01-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
She believed that if the police didn't leave a scratch, they could make up a confession.


[01-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
So that's why progressives hate Kamala Harris.


[01-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[01-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
You can't really say this happens endemically though. The system worked and Harris lost.


[01-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, it's nowhere near as common as what Japan does.


[01-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Pontology#1010
So, falsifying transcripts is illegal and results in dismissal of charges, it seems.


[01-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Usually, the police can just ignore your actual rights and get you to say shit.


[01-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember when SCOTUS decided that remaining silent wasn't exercising your right to remain silent?


[01-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Pontology#1010
no


[01-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.salon.com/2013/06/30/scotus_no_right_to_remain_silence_unless_you_speak_up_partner/

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SCOTUS: No right to remain silent unless you speak up
Its little-covered ruling in Salinas v. Texas could have major implications for future criminal prosecutions
https://media.salon.com/2013/01/gavel3.jpg


[01-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Salinas was later arrested on an unrelated traffic warrant, at which time police decided there was enough evidence to charge him with the murders. Salinas did not testify at the trial, but his reaction to police questioning -- the fidgeting, lip-biting, etc. -- was used as evidence. In other words, Salinas’ silence was used against him, a violation of his Fifth Amendment rights, or so he thought.'


[01-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/


[01-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Salinas was convicted and received a 20-year sentence. On direct appeal, he argued to the Court of Appeals of Texas that the prosecutors’ use of his silence as part of their case was unconstitutional, but the court rejected that argument. The case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court, where in a 5-4 decision last week, the court found that Salinas’ self-incrimination privilege had not been violated, mainly because he never flat-out said, “I’m invoking my right to remain silent.” This despite the fact that Salinas was not under arrest at the time of questioning, and was therefore not read his Miranda rights.'


[01-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note on Its' post


[01-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Give me a lawyer, dawg." is the correct interpretation, knowing AAVE and conventions on writing it.


[01-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police chose to instead hear "Give me a lawyer dog."


[01-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They ignored a pause in speech by ignoring that AAVE uses "dawg" and thus effectively committed lingual racism.


[01-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the article even uses the non-AAVE form.


[01-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what systemic racism can actually look like.


[01-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ignoring people's actual speech in favor of your own cultural stuff in order to shaft people with a slightly different culture.


[01-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lawyer dog is a legal impossibility.


[01-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That shouldn't even have to be said.


[01-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, even if you literally believe a guy said "Give me a lawyer dog.", you should treat it as if he asked for a regular lawyer.


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any request for a lawyer should be treated as such. The details of what the lawyer is other than a lawyer don't matter much. Offer him fursuited lawyers if need be.


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
**But don't just ignore a request for a lawyer.**


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It has to be unequivocal


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's bad.


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would you consider "Maybe I should get a lawyer..." enough?


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
A person just taken into police custody should not be expected to be perfect.


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police should be.


[01-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't considered good enough


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The person has just been put under duress.


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are relaxed at their job site.


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would consider it enuff to mandate asking clarification.


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Do you want a lawyer at this time?"


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If there's a nod, then bam, lawyer.


[01-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
DYK the Sixth Amendment right to counsel is offense-specific?


[01-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505364-poll-biden-trump-locked-in-neck-and-neck-battle-for-north-carolina

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Poll: Biden, Trump locked in neck-and-neck battle for North Carolina
President Trump and Joe Biden are running neck-and-neck in North Carolina, with the former vice president holding a marginal 1-point lead in one of the election’s most crucial battleground states,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_trumpdonald_061820getty_split.jpg


[01-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Hill keeps using this stock image, and I keep thinking Bane is running for president


[01-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden: I'm a blakk guy...for you.


[01-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, you mean getting a lawyer for one offense doesn't mean it's for all at first?


[01-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`In contrast to the Fifth Amendment right to an attorney, the Sixth Amendment right to counsel is offense-specific, meaning that once invoked, the Fifth Amendment right to an attorney forbids police to question a suspect on any matter until the suspect has a chance to speak to an attorney.  On the other hand, under the Sixth amendment right to counsel, the suspect is entitled to have their attorney present at interrogations and proceedings involving the specific offense, but police may question the suspect on unrelated matters outside the presence of their attorney which was the basis for the aforementioned United States Supreme Court ruling that being in jail or prison does not mean “in custody” for Miranda.`


[01-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's so stupid.


[01-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone not allowed to move freely should be "in custody".


[01-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even house arrest.


[01-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you should be given a lawyer without asking.


[01-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then again, we shouldn't be arresting people for shit in such large quantities that a defense lawyer has 8 minutes a case.


[01-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
US system is stupid.


[01-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Found some bait

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[01-Jul-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-bans-hundreds-of-groups-users-linked-to-boogaloo-movement-2020-7

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Facebook bans hundreds of groups and accounts linked to the far-rig...
Facebook called the specific network a "dangerous organization" distinct from the broader boogaloo movement as it "actively seeks to commit violence."
https://i.insider.com/5ed830b13f737035f10c8b95?width=1200&format=jpeg


[01-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
>far-right
>anti-government
Choose one. Boogaloo is generally aligned with BLM iirc in their common cause against police.


[01-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean, sure, anarcho-capitalism is economically right-wing, but generally not what "far-right" means according to its dictionary/wikipedia definition.


[01-Jul-20 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The boogaloo movement, adherents of which are often referred to as boogaloo boys or boogaloo bois, is a loosely organized American far-right extremist movement.[8] Participants generally identify as libertarian and say they are preparing for, or seek to incite, a second American Civil War which they call the "boogaloo".[3][9][10][11] While use of the term has been found on the fringe imageboard website 4chan since 2012, it did not come to widespread attention until late 2019.[1] Adherents use the term (including variations, so as to avoid social media crackdowns) to refer to violent uprisings against the federal government or left-wing political opponents, often anticipated to follow government confiscation of firearms.


[01-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, I know what it is.


[01-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
The U.S. was basically founded on revolutionary libertarianism against the government. Revolutionary libertarianism today is extremist but not a far-right ideology.


[01-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Then again, "far-right" is generally a meaningless smear word.


[01-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The right isn't pro-gov't.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Far-right generally means things around nazis.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pro-gov't on either sides happens.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazis prefer to be in the gov't.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means they can apply double standards.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
What I really dislike is using the same word to describe nazis and libertarian extremists.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they are okay with fighting the gov't if it doesn't use said double standards.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
It's linguistically manipulative.


[01-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are government-neutral.


[01-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Libertarians are anti-government in theory. In practice, they don't exist.


[01-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
People just like to pretend their pro-racism pro-capitalism stance is actually about "government control".


[01-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
America in the late 1800's was libertarian. No income tax, no social security, etc.


[01-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tons of racism.


[01-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Capitalism running rampant.


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Was a great time to be white.


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty terrible time be anything else.


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also not a good time to be poor.


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm just saying, libertarians exist in practice. There was a lot of social racism, especially in the deep south, but the north was pretty socially libertarian. There were like a dozen black republicans in congress.


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
in the late 1800's


[01-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The north wouldn't hire you if you were *Irish*.


[01-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or they'd hav special work for you.


[01-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they'd not even look at you if you were blakk.


[01-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, there was plenty of gov't control


[01-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't made sure to hav all sorts of reasons to reject immigrants who weren't the right kind of white.


[01-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure, we had intervals of white-only immigration policies.


[01-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
That's fine in theory so long as there wasn't discrimination within the borders (which there was)


[01-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
And of course, the gov't made damn sure those Mormons were subjugated for territorial control.


[01-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism in accepting immigrants is fine as long as you exempt people already in the country?


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, like Israel today.


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Pontology#1010
They have immigration policies designed to ensure a Jewish supermajority


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk Israel.


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their racism isn't okay.


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their wall isn't okay.


[01-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should be forced into a peace treaty with the Palestineans.


[01-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of this shit of "we hate the Arabs because they make us kill their sons" and big crocodile tears


[01-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
while their corrupt PM manages to stikk around.


[01-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The laws that try to stop BDS are immoral in the worst way possible.


[01-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to suppress basic protest capabilities just cause of who our (shitty) allies are.


[01-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giving people an ethnostate was a terrible idea.


[01-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-BDS is unconstitutional


[01-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I for some reason hate the nation of Paraguay and tell people not to buy anything from Paraguay or support Paraguay


[01-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's fine


[01-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's fine for every nation on Earth but one


[01-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racism isn't okay no matter the target.


[01-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Racism isn't illegal


[01-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not the point.


[01-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our immigration policies should never hav cared about race.


[01-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
They shouldn't even care about nationality.


[01-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Treat everyone as if they come from some nebulous "other" area.


[01-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of this "oh it's Kenya, no more of them allowed, NEXT"


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just a way to sneak in racism.


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Africans get visas rejected at utterly ridiculous rates.


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
I think there's nothing wrong with a country have ethnicity- or race-conscious immigration policies. No-one has a right to immigrate to another nation without their consent.


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Non-sequitor.


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
And per some UN charter, the right to national self-determination is a human right


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
That includes ethnic self-determination in a nation-state


[01-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just said it's okay to be racist in choosing who comes in, then then you said that nobody has a right to come in.


[01-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
These things aren't related.


[01-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Pontology#1010
In which that ethnicity maintains itself as a supermajority with institutional sovereign power over their land.


[01-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like saying that Taco Bell can choose to not serve blakks. Nobody has a right to be served by Taco Bell.


[01-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing a conjoining thing.


[01-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Pontology#1010
I said nobody has a right to immigrate to _X_ country. Only _X_ country can confer such a thing as a privilege.


[01-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it exactly that race should be allowed as a factor?


[01-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody's argument is that a country should approve every single visa ever.


[01-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should a country be able to use race to decide the visa?


[01-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why should it not be just about a person's behavior?


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, the UN charter AFAIK doesn't say a state can choose its ethnicities.


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Pontology#1010
There are several reasons why a country may choose race as a factor. One of them is preventing ethnic tension.


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Pontology#1010
https://qz.com/945053/china-has-an-irrational-fear-of-a-black-invasion-bringing-drugs-crime-and-interracial-marriage/

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China has an irrational fear of a "black invasion" bringing drugs, ...
"Sometimes people pinch their noses as I walk by, as if they think I smell."
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rtr26y9n-e1490850563580.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1400


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says ethnicities can choose their states.


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the hekkler's veto?


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wow.


[01-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's utterly bullshit.


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically saying "well people said they'd lynch blakks, so we won't allow any in!"


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
China has the Belt and Road Initiative in an attempt for hegemony over Africa


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet gets mad when Africans come to China


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want colonialism.


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just like Europe had.


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just sad they missed out on slavery.


[01-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Then African countries can enact black-only immigration policies like Liberia has (or had, I heard it may have been recently revoked).


[01-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Still immoral.


[01-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You realize in Liberia Amero-Liberians enslaved the native population basically until the 1980s right


[01-Jul-20 04:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They didn't miss out. they got brought over and made some nice rail roads in the US.


[01-Jul-20 04:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Then they got told they were not allowed to have any gold so left.


[01-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Pontology#1010
I like diversity genuinely. I'd hate for every major city to become a generic globalized salad like London has become. The way to preserve diversity includes strong, even ethnicity-restrictive, immigration policies.


[01-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Pontology#1010
Keep Tokyo 99% Japanese. If Tokyo became minority-Japanese like how London is now minority-English, it would be fundamentally changed.


[01-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Generic globalized salad


[01-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's your fault for staying around tourist areas my dude


[01-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, diversity still arises with how far apart places are. We don't need to literally be racist to be somewhat different.


[01-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's good to hav people migrate around and bring outside ideas, as well.


[01-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if your culture does something poorly, and someone else's does it better?


[01-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should want some African guy to come over and show you a better way to handle trees, or make soup.


[01-Jul-20 05:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nah, cultural appropriation.


[01-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For example:

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[01-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Or introduce the religious custom of FGM. The U.S. has an estimated half-million cases.


[01-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's being wiped out in Africa.


[01-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly as a result of other people bringing the idea that maaaaybe there's better ways to do marriage customs.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
British people think mushy peas is a cultural tradition


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, what about all the penis cutting?


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
MGM shouldn't be okay.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
There's a reason there are ethnic restaurants for every type of food except British food.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
It's objectively awful.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should hav people from other cultures slap the shit out of us for having it.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
US likes to put the knife to people junk cause masturbation bad.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
That would be nice. Too bad MGM is also obligatory in Islam.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
And the Jewish lobby is extremely powerful.


[01-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does that matter?


[01-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They won't win the war.


[01-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Pontology#1010
Iceland tried to ban MGM, and the ADL threatened them from overseas.


[01-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of diversity is for the best ideas to shine thru.


[01-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Pontology#1010
You are far more optimistic than I.


[01-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Pontology#1010
The only reason Sweden and Finland don't ban MGM is jews and muslims


[01-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Pontology#1010
It's diversity that's standing in the way of it


[01-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not diversity.


[01-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the country was all jews, or all muslims, you'd get the same result.


[01-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just irrational protection of religious traditions.


[01-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
"It's my religion" should never trounce the law.


[01-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, something to consider


[01-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the right gets its "Religious Freedom" bills passed


[01-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
that means that FGM is okay for Africans.


[01-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that Muslims could like, do honor killings of their immediate family.


[01-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
And Christians could go around refusing to work on Sundays.


[01-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Pontology#1010
The reason the Jewish lobby came out in support of Kavanaugh was to protect circumcision.


[01-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Their own words.


[01-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[01-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Was this to further "Religious Freedom"?)


[01-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christian doctors should be forced to work on Sundays.


[01-Jul-20 05:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Christians are not meant to be doing any of the shit other Abrahamic religions are not allowed to do either. It changed with how it spread around the world..


[01-Jul-20 05:10 AM] jlun2#8758
> that means that FGM is okay for Africans.
> And that Muslims could like, do honor killings of their immediate family.
then they immediately make it only apply to certain religions


[01-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm agreeing with you. This is why we should be able to keep out people on the basis of religion—specifically, not all Muslims, but those of the Shafi'i School of Islam (the branch of Islam in which FGM is _wājib_, mandatory)


[01-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christian employers should be forced to not fire people for being gay.


[01-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that doesn't make sense.


[01-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not being forced to allow religious bullshit doesn't mean we need to keep out people that follow that religion.


[01-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it did, we should keep out Christians.


[01-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Atheists only.


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Murder all Christians too, while we're at it.


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sound good?


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
No branch of Christianity says that FGM is obligatory


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
legislating against religious doctors for their adverse _actions_ is fine, but I do like the subtle implication that ponkology actually thinks thoughts should be illegal


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not talking about just FGM.


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
I think it's pretty reasonable to keep out people whose religion says FGM is obligatory


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Christians are advocating for immoral things


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and by your logic, that means we should remove them


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Winston#2894
Some branches say that discrimination of various forms is mandatory


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Plenty of people forget the middle east is full of Christians


[01-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
then shouldn't we exterminate Christians?


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Used to be full of Christians


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world today


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Mostly in the middle east


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
and the most pretend-persecuted here


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
By your logic, we should persecute them.


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
:twismug:


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you believe we should?


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/02/persecution-driving-christians-out-of-middle-east-report

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Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East...
Millions uprooted from homes, says UK-commissioned report, with many jailed and killed
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[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or is there a flaw in your logic?


[01-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Not exactly a right-wing source


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think we should allow Christians like Mike Pence to exist?


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Winston#2894
The Middle East still has a lot of Christians in it, and yes, they are persecuted


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your logic says we shouldn't.


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Pontology#1010
No, my logic is strictly about borders


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you believe once the religious nutjobs are here, they are exempt?


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should merely keep out Christians who come from the Middle East?


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Pontology#1010
We should be able to keep out nazis from immigrating, while at the same time American nazis are constitutionally protected in their free speech


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Winston#2894
I'm not sure their persecution in the Middle East has much to do with the issue of other very different Christians being willing to *commit* persecution in America, though


[01-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Pontology#1010
It's strictly about borders


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so when those persecuted Christians apply to come here from the Middle East


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
we should say no, right?


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're religious nutjobs.


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
We should say yes


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why?


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just argued for religious persecution.


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Because they're Christian fleeing persecution


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
No, I am not arguing for religious persecution


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You argued for persecution as a good thing.


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
No


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Winston#2894
There's a ton of Muslims fleeing persecution


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Winston#2894
we should say yes to them, then, right?


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Muslims fleeing persecution should go to Muslim countries


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You said to deny people admission for religions that practice bad things.


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
These are the kind of Christians that the US would stop from coming in to the country based on where they are from as they think all middle easterners are Muslims.
They are also the type of Christians that would have a stone throwing if they could.


[01-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christians practice bad things.


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should therefore deny Christians admission.


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just like the UK has done.


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Winston#2894
...You mean they should go to the same Muslim countries that are mostly sponsoring their persecutors?


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-christian-convert-asylum-refused-bible-not-peaceful-a8832026.html

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Home Office refuses Christian convert asylum by quoting Bible passa...
Campaigners say case demonstrates 'distortion of logic' and 'reckless' approach to asylum seekers' lives
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/02/13/12/home-office.jpg


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The Iranian national, who claimed asylum in 2016, was told passages in the Bible were “inconsistent” with his claim to have converted to Christianity after discovering it was a “peaceful” faith.

The refusal letter from the department states the book of Revelations – the final book of the Bible – is “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence”, and cites six excerpts from it.'


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Winston#2894
How is that going to help them?


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is correct, right?


[01-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Pontology#1010
@Winston If literally every Muslim country is persecuting Muslims, that's pretty damning


[01-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Pontology#1010
But I'm sure there are some that don't persecute Muslims.


[01-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
So am I to understand you want Christian countries to allow in Christians, but Muslim ones to allow in Muslims?


[01-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Basically yes.


[01-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Pontology#1010
It's right-wing multiculturalism.

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[01-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Winston#2894
You know "Muslim" is not monolithic, right? There's a lot of different types, and there's not always a viable "go somewhere else Muslim" for particular flavors of Muslims to go.


[01-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so if Sweden declares their religion is Muslim, officially


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
then they should allow in a ton of Muslims and cut off all the foreskins, right?


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Pontology#1010
That'll happen probably around the year 2200


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Pontology#1010
And it'll be their fault for letting in so many Muslims


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you think this is a good thing, right?


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
After all, they'd become a Muslim country letting in Muslims.


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No issue with that, according to you.


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Pontology#1010
I think it's fine if the future Muslim supermajority does that, and a damn shame for the native Swedes who have become a minority in their own country and lost their national, cultural, and ethnic self-determination.


[01-Jul-20 05:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
There is not just one type of Muslim. Like how there are Catholics and Protestants. Certain types of Muslims would not be welcome in any other Muslim country.


[01-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Winston#2894
No, see, it'll be fine according to your logic.
When the Muslims take over, the Christians can just flee persecution to another Christian country!


[01-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Winston#2894
I'm sure that'll be fine.


[01-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Like the Copts in Egypt today


[01-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so we just take the Swedes into some vaguely Swedish place, problem solved!


[01-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you think America is a Christian country, yes?


[01-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Discord is spazzing


[01-Jul-20 05:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Hold on restarting my computer


[01-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Pontology#1010
It’s stuck just checking for updates forever, even after restarting. (Posting this from my phone.)


[01-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Ree


[01-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok finally.


[01-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, America is vaguely a Christian country, culturally. It's hard to notice in the same way a fish might not notice the ocean it's in.


[01-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Upon reading the Bible, I realized how many common-place English sayings are actually Bible quotes.


[01-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Even most atheists in America are culturally Christian in origin.


[01-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, but what if those Atheiests don't want Christianity around, and they ultimately control the country?


[01-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Should it not reject Christian immigrants, according to your logic?


[01-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, that's kind of the thing I'd hope to avoid, just like Swedes would be wise to avoid becoming majority-Muslim.


[01-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Pontology#1010
China is officially an atheist country, and that's their right, too. State atheism.


[01-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I guess this is what makes me culturally conservative. I want to conserve American culture.


[01-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Including all its freedoms. Including gay rights, etc.


[01-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christianity is opposed to gay rights.


[01-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it should burn for it.


[01-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Pontology#1010
The majority of American Christians support gay marriage according to Pew Research.


[01-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cool, doesn't change what's in the bible.


[01-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Would've had gay rights a lot sooner without Christianity.


[01-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Doubtful.


[01-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, the founding fathers said to separate church and state for a reason.


[01-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
They weren't very good at it, but there were pretty legit reasons.


[01-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Atheist countries don't have gay marriage.


[01-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK persecuted anyone that was of a slightly different religion.


[01-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
There were routinely slaughterings of catholics or protestants by the other.


[01-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a fundamental part of American values to not treat people differently based on religion.


[01-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree.


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, those American values you talked about earlier


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
as being what we should respect?


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What happened to that?


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do you want us to discriminate by religion?


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Borders are different.


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
No they aren't.


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Constitution still applies to borders.


[01-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't discriminate by religion just cause it's borders.


[01-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Pontology#1010
No. To become a citizen, you need to swear to uphold the Constitution.


[01-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The founding fathers literally came here for the exact reason of borders with religious discrimination.


[01-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least, the pilgrims did.


[01-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the founding fathers very much agreed on that front.


[01-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Upholding the constitution means not discriminating on religion.


[01-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
At least, not in any governmental capacity.


[01-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean the pilgrams came often cause their home country wasn't religious enough for them


[01-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The borders are part of government.


[01-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Pontology#1010
It means not discriminating on religion to those under the jurisdiction of the States.


[01-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Foreign nationals and those seeking immigration are not under the jurisdiction of the States.


[01-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Pontology#1010
If we want to keep out those who religiously believe in FGM, that's good and fine.


[01-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it does not mean that alone.


[01-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."


[01-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Where does this say only within borders?


[01-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it's respecting an establisment of religion to allow or deny someone admission based on their religion.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, the 14th amendment applies only to laws about citizens and those under the jurisdiction of the states


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Pontology#1010
So wouldn't apply to borders.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't the 14th amendment.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the 1st.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it says *Congress*.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in the federal one.


[01-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is part of the bill of rights.


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Part of what you said states needed to agree to even form the damn country.


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Hm, this is too bad. So it seems the only way to keep out FGM is to have a white-only immigration policy or something. I'd definitely not prefer that.


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
by stating that rights only apply in a countries borders you're also implicitly acknoledging that rights are just what the government allows you to have


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's to ban FGM as a practice for reasons of its harm.


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 1st amendment ALSO prohibits not banning FGM because of it being a religious practice.


[01-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Pontology#1010
It is banned. Still an estimated half-million people in the U.S. are victims of it.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is more important, the word of Allah or the law?


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well then we need better prevention.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law, always.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Not to religious people.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
That's my point.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the law often doesn't work too well because our police are busy dealing with stupid shit.


[01-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arrest less people for drugs, more for child abuse.


[01-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue Immigration to a country is never a right.


[01-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Pontology#1010
It's always a privilege.


[01-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
that's not what I mean at all


[01-Jul-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
🎣


[01-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean that rights are just what the ruling class conceds to the underclass to appease them and they are arbitrary


[01-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Winston#2894
FGM may occur in the US as a result of Muslim immigration, but blocking Muslim immigration is not the way to solve FGM problems


[01-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Winston#2894
All those FGM victims will still be FGM victims, but in different countries where now they have no possible recourse to press charges against and seek compensation from their victimizers.


[01-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
That's their problem, just like MGM and having no recourse for it is our problem.


[01-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So? We should fix it, wherever it may occur.


[01-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
We should never get involved in another country's business unless they're literally committing a genocide and it's to stop it.


[01-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Countries should all submit to a world government.


[01-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
One that enforces basic rights.


[01-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Winston#2894
I dunno, I feel like basic human rights are an everyone-problem, not just a my-country-problem


[01-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Pontology#1010
It's up to them to creates basic human rights in their countries.


[01-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
the UN does have a list of rights, the US hasn't signed on to them tho


[01-Jul-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
hence the world government thingy


[01-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Winston#2894
Why is it up to them?


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Because it's their country. It's certainly not up to us to "spread freedom" to them like we did in Iraq.


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rights > countries.


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Winston#2894
Why should it be their country if they won't provide basic human rights, though?


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Winston#2894
That kinda invalidates any claim to legitimate government


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
t. cultural imperialist


[01-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
My right to not be killed etc. should trounce any rights to "sovereignty"


[01-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Like I said, only if a country is actively committing a genocide should we get involved.


[01-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Winston#2894
Why is genocide the line?


[01-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Winston#2894
Seems really arbitrary to me.


[01-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Pontology#1010
You're right. Maybe we should never get involved, even then.


[01-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Winston#2894
"Whoa, there, it's okay to kill a few people but not *en masse*, now"


[01-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
Prime Directive time


[01-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Pontology#1010
We kill a few people. We have the death penalty. Imagine some sanctimonious country invading us to stop us from issuing the death penalty to serial killers.


[01-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Winston#2894
Or maybe we should just be responsible human beings and not let other human beings suffer


[01-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Winston#2894
We shouldn't have a death penalty either.


[01-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Honahue#0656
death penalty is garbage even for serial killers and other countries are stopping us or really making us use even worse methods by withholding lethal injection meds


[01-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Pontology#1010
That's fine to believe, and Pakistan shouldn't execute apostates.


[01-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Crow#5457
iirc the EU won't extradite a criminal to the US if there's a chance they may be facing the death penalty


[01-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not up to us to force it on them, though, when the majority of Pakistanis support killing apostates.


[01-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Winston#2894
Why not?


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Winston#2894
"The majority support it" is clearly not a justification for the morality of something.


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Are we really so culturally superior to the Pakistanis that we can force them to live how we think they should live?


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Winston#2894
Yes, if they're unjustly killing people.


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Winston#2894
Actually, no, that's not even the question


[01-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Winston#2894
it's not a matter of cultural superiority


[01-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Winston#2894
because we don't have to replace their culture wholesale to stop that from happening


[01-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is so wrong with a basic idea of fundamental rights every culture must agree to or be removed from any position of power?


[01-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something that, you know, maeans a Middle East country can't execute people for being Christian.


[01-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or being gay.


[01-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the argument is something along the lines of that many cultures developed so differently their view of "fundamental" rights can never been seen as consistent with what another culture finds "fundamental"


[01-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullshit.


[01-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that attempts to impose it are attempts to extinguish culture


[01-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Humans hav a pretty common desire to not kill each other.


[01-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC this is what Saudi Arabia/Japan etc argue.


[01-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We only kill via really stupid exceptions.


[01-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should just say no more killing.


[01-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Winston#2894
Yes, humans have a pretty strong consensus on certain fundamental things they'd like to not have done to them by other humans.


[01-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Winston#2894
That's a good enough universal basis for human rights.


[01-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Winston#2894
If your government is doing those things to people, it has lost the ability to claim a sovereign right to be free from someone else stepping in to fix the situation.


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Only a minority of the world supports basic human rights


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Pontology#1010
You are coming from a very Western perspective


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Winston#2894
...You mean only a "minority of the world" wants to not be killed by other people?


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Winston#2894
Or stolen from?


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Winston#2894
Or raped?


[01-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Winston#2894
News to me.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean things like free speech


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Which I'd consider a basic human right


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
But that's only because I'm Western


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually that only a minority wants to be prevented from doing things like rape/murder those they don't like.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
But everyone wants it to not be done to them.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And both sides want each other side to not do it, in general.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe it should be the rule for both sides of everything to not be able to do it.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Winston#2894
No, I'm pretty sure everyone wants to be able to speak *their* mind.


[01-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Winston#2894
People who are against free speech are only against it for *other* people.


[01-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe when you hav 10 different nationalities, and each says to kill 1 other, the correct solution is nobody kills anyone.


[01-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It pleases the most people.


[01-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause other than the 1 each wants to kill, they don't want to see anyone else die, either.


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nationality A wants to kill B, but doesn't want C to kill D, or D to kill E. Similar for B and so on.


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Pontology#1010
There is no idea scarier to me than a one-world government


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Because a one-world government is one you cannot escape


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Pontology#1010
You cannot claim asylum elsewhere if you are being persecuted


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we just ignore the particular bias and create basic rights around "what you wouldn't want to see another group do to another other group, when you hav no stake"


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Winston#2894
Then maybe don't persecute people?


[01-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point would be a gov't solely focused on not persecuting people.


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause you know, in practice


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody hates persecution more than communists, and few regimes have been better at it than communist ones.


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
persecuted people often can't flee.


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't trust a one-world government


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way we've fukked over international law, they can't anymore, even when financially able.


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Or any government


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
People get raped to death in Libya


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
they try to cross the Mediterranean to survive


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
then Italy's like NOPE and lets them drown


[01-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
maybe that's not okay, you know?


[01-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now are weak UN isn't enforcing asylum law.


[01-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know, the law that says you must first let refugees in, and THEN decide if you don't want them.


[01-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Pontology#1010
UN is a joke with Saudi Arabia on the women's rights commission


[01-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[01-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not saying to support the UN entirely.


[01-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm saying to make a super ultra UN of doom that fukking shoots the Saudi gov't dead.


[01-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Pontology#1010
>mfw left-wing cultural imperialism


[01-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The moment the Saudi gov't so much as talks about touching women's rights.


[01-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And when America decides it doesn't want Muslims to hold office or something, :glowing_eyes: 💥


[01-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP that American gov't


[01-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too bad, so sad, try again with a not shitty gov't that actually cares about rights.


[01-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Winston#2894
Arguing "But cultural imperialism!" as an apologetic for preventing people from being stopped from doing fundamentally really shitty rights-violating things to other people isn't really convincing me, here.


[01-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imperialism was wrong because it trounced people's rights, not because it overrode their local culture.


[01-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was, in fact, the absence of fundamental rights that kept their cultures suppressed.


[01-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Winston#2894
Yeah, imperialism was the opposite of human rights enforcement.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If the colonized had the same rights as the colonizers, they would've been able to preserve almost all of their traditions.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So if Britain conquered India and treated the Indians exactly like Londoners it would have been okay?


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their music, their clothing, their cuisine.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Saudi Arabia's culture includes their absolute monarchy.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Pontology#1010
I bet most Saudi Arabians don't want democracy.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that part of culture can go.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not every piece of culture is equal.


[01-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some parts are evil.


[01-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking well...yes. Why wouldn't it be?


[01-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the same shit as Wales.


[01-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think England was wrong to hold Wales?


[01-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean wouldn't it be best for the people in India to control their own affairs


[01-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking possibly, but by design, them having the same rights as Londoners would giv them most of their control.


[01-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would be able to worship what they wanted, hav their own local councils to enforce regional laws, etc.


[01-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they'd hav parliamentary representatives to represent them.


[01-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
In a way, Londoners would lose control of their own affairs, with the way parliament works.


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Winston#2894
People in India should be allowed to control their own affairs, but "controlling your own affairs" is not a justification we'd accept for violating human rights, is it?


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would basically be the Kingdom of India and the British Isles.


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Pontology#1010
In Russian, "derm" means "shit", and it is common parlance for them to call democracy "dermocracy".


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Only a tiny minority of Russians want democracy, and they're called "shitocrats" (dermocrats) by the rest


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia has never once been good under any form of government except arguably NEP


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
most governments don't really let people control their own affairs anyway


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Honahue#0656
America included


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Winston#2894
"We just wanna control our own affairs" was the central pin in the rationalizations for slavery and then Jim Crow segregation, but we didn't buy it, ultimately.


[01-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Corrupt monarchies, corrupt communism, corrupt democracies


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should hav absolute control over local affairs.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like pipelines running thru town.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should own the local land.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No far-off ownership.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But when it comes to international shit, yes, it's probably best that some far-off gov't handle it.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by "handle it", I mean keep other gov'ts off people's bakks.


[01-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not to decide that suddenly Indians can't see their Pakistani grandmas.


[01-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK is broken because it basically is just England and vassals.


[01-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Scottish don't hav local control of oil.


[01-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
England controls their oil.


[01-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
And England is now trying to tell them brown people hav no rights, and to get with the program.


[01-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK should be dissolved.


[01-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
London is majority-brown


[01-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[01-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
England isn't just London.


[01-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Norf F.C.


[01-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
that's not even true


[01-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't quite understand how people can simultaneously support indigenous rights and indigenous sovereignty (e.g. reservations saying only people with the right genetic ancestry may join them), but not support the same for native europeans


[01-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't support indigenous sovereignty.


[01-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Winston#2894
I don't support indigenous sovereignty being used as a racial excluder.


[01-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't support sovereignty.


[01-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
partly because a lot of the legecy people were brought there without a choice and partly because the places people are leaving had been fucked over by those countries


[01-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sorry we genocided you for 400 years, how about we let you open casinos and sell fireworks on this shitty land we let you keep?"


[01-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
I support rights, including basic rights to not hav your land just utterly trampled next to you.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Putting people on reservations wasn't a way to grant them shit.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a way to contain them.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
A way to control them from afar.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Intersectionalist reasoning is cancer, it affords rights based on actual or perceived privilege rather than universally


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So that when the time came, we would just build infrastructure over them.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Honahue#0656
America and Canada especially have a more unique situation where all the white people are settlers and took the land from the natives


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is what's been happening now.


[01-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pipelines built over native land.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
None of the money going to the natives.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
in some cases it kept them from being wiped out as a people. but at the cost of making any growth of their's stagnate.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile the natives are politically weakened by being contained to the land.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like putting people in fukking pots to boil and telling them they should be happy to hav their own special pots.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Sunnyside#3103
the whole thing needs to be scrapped and redone these days


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Pontology#1010
They're full citizens, they're not contained.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they are contained.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were rounded up and put on the land.


[01-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were forced at gunpoint to liv there initially.


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Not any of the ones alive today.


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones alive today inherited that shitty situation.


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
it was that or being wiped out


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Winston#2894
They're not contained in the behind-a-razorwire-fence sense


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Honahue#0656
so? they living on that legacy


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Winston#2894
they're contained in the sense of being born into crushing poverty and then not helped out of it in any reasonable way


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Sunnyside#3103
at least they are alive


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should not be thankful merely to not hav been completely slaughtered.


[01-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Genocide is shitty.


[01-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Pontology#1010
I disagree.


[01-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Pontology#1010
/s


[01-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
People infrastructure is built next to should be given a share of its benefits.


[01-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equally.


[01-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
And *all* of the benefits.


[01-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
A company should build a pipeline and then send all its profits from such to the people that liv adjacent to it.


[01-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if some of those people don't consent to this to begin with?


[01-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too bad, no pipeline for company.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Alaska kind of does that. Obviously "all profits" is too far.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing is "too far".


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Companies deserve nothing.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
People deserve things.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Pontology#1010
If it's literally all profits, there's no motivation to do it at all.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Winston#2894
I'm fine with a company making a deal for a pipeline, and from making a profit on said pipeline. But that's the important element there: *a deal*.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those who bear a burden should receive benefits created from the burden.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's motivation for the people the pipeline would be built next to.


[01-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would want to invest in it.


[01-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Winston#2894
Companies, at least under the current model of how things work, do need to be allowed to gain *something* reasonable in order to motivate them to do things


[01-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Winston#2894
hence I'm fine with them getting something out of it


[01-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Winston#2894
but not with companies just doing whatever shit they feel like without cutting a fair deal with the people who have a stake and an interest.


[01-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Winston#2894
Fossil fuel is kind of an industry I think we should be out of at this point anyway, which would have rendered the whole fight mute, but that's another discussion I guess


[01-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Get out of using fossil fuels by using up all of the earth's fossil fuels


[01-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't know how serious I am in this take


[01-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
that's the worse use of them


[01-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, it's a reasonable take


[01-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Pontology#1010
We'll apparently run out of oil by 2100


[01-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
we'll be amazingly lucky if there's a civilization by then to use oil if we keep using oil like we do now


[01-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Pontology#1010
haha no


[01-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Winston#2894
I don't put much stock in predictions that we'll run out of oil, but "we'll run out!" is not what I see as the right reason for getting off the stuff.


[01-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Pontology#1010
We're going to use it all up anyway


[01-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Pontology#1010
It's just a matter of the rate


[01-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Winston#2894
I'm doubtful we'll really run out because 1. the technology to extract more keeps getting better, and 2. "we'll run out!" raises demand, which raises price, which makes it suddenly economical to drill and extract what was previously too expensive to drill and extract.


[01-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Winston#2894
But like I said, supply worries aren't the reason to quit oil.


[01-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Winston#2894
Oil just being intrinsically a shitty way to power everything is why.


[01-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. I see the free market already working, though. E.g. Tesla.


[01-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Winston#2894
Not sure about that, really


[01-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Winston#2894
The free market was what *stopped* oil from dying out long before now


[01-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Winston#2894
We could have created market incentives to drive oil into much lower prominence a long time ago


[01-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Winston#2894
We just... didn't. Because free market.


[01-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Winston#2894
And only now is the free market way of doing things finally starting to make just a little progress.


[01-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The free market lobbies to keep competition down.


[01-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tesla is battling multiple state laws now that don't want you to sell cars directly to consumers.


[01-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Honahue#0656
Tesla or electic cars aren't a panacea either, electric cars don't solve the problem of traffic and have their own polluting supply chain


[01-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
and the loop is just as shitty and won't solve problems either


[01-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
https://knoema.com/atlas/maps/CO2-emissions-per-capita


[01-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
he privately funded a worse subway


[01-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
~~Free-market countries seem to be doing the best.~~


[01-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Actually, there's little correlation.


[01-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
CO2 emissions per capita

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[01-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait lol


[01-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Honahue#0656
red is low


[01-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
They colored it backwards


[01-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[01-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Pontology#1010
That makes more sense


[01-Jul-20 06:52 AM] Pontology#1010
It's basically just a map of economic prosperity :shrug:


[01-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why is much of Europe white on that?


[01-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
No way is there no data for Spain, the UK, and France.


[01-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you sure this isn't like, about coal?


[01-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or rather, about power generation specifically?


[01-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
website says "CO2 emission per capita"


[01-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well something sure is screwy.


[01-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[01-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Synfag#9241
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[01-Jul-20 11:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fair-housing-rule-devastating-impact-on-suburbs-2020-6

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Trump threatens to overturn a fair housing regulation designed to h...
The Obama-era Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing regulation was designed to "foster inclusive communities that are free from discrimination."
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[01-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Synfag#9241
with an explosive headline like that
there's bound to be something that is more than it seems in that situation


[01-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Synfag#9241
... or we'll just accept what the mainsteam media overlords says.


[01-Jul-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it has obama's name on it, and it has to do with realty regulations, so of course Trump is going to target it. He's a realtor mogul with a bent against obama and a history of racial discrimination when it comes to his business practices.


[01-Jul-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The black people population is disturbing the good suburbian white people population with their "anti discrimination" I need to do soemthing about this"


[01-Jul-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his actual words were 
> "At the request of many great Americans who live in the Suburbs, and others, I am studying the AFFH housing regulation that is having a devastating impact on these once thriving Suburban areas," the president wrote in a tweet Tuesday night. "Corrupt Joe Biden wants to make them MUCH WORSE. Not fair to homeowners, I may END!"


[01-Jul-20 01:29 PM] Synfag#9241

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[01-Jul-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cute


[01-Jul-20 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-offers-hong-kong-citizens-refuge-in-uk-in-response-to-china-2020-7

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Boris Johnson offers 3 million Hong Kong citizens refuge in the UK ...
The prime minister announced the move on Wednesday afternoon after Beijing imposed new laws on Hong Kong.
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[01-Jul-20 02:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
only ones born before 1996. Not the younger ones that are actually at risk of going to jail.


[01-Jul-20 02:32 PM] byte[]#2610
those teeth are a little rough


[01-Jul-20 02:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Buck Tooth Boris


[01-Jul-20 02:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> "In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."
> – Marx
@Pontology  That’s merely exposing Marx’s thoughts on religion, and does not make him inherently an antisemite, if you actually read *The Jewish Question*


[01-Jul-20 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/hal-draper/article.htm

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Marx Myths and Legends. Hal Draper
Hal Draper: Marx and the Economic-Jew Stereotype (1977)


[01-Jul-20 02:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What he defended was the emancipation of the Jews from their stereotype as moneymen and their introduction into class struggle


[01-Jul-20 03:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> The most rigid form of the opposition between the Jew and the Christian is the religious opposition. How is an opposition resolved? By making it impossible. How is religious opposition made impossible? By abolishing religion. As soon as Jew and Christian recognize that their respective religions are no more than different stages in the development of the human mind, different snake skins cast off by history, and that man is the snake who sloughed them, the relation of Jew and Christian is no longer religious but is only a critical, scientific, and human relation. Science, then, constitutes their unity. But, contradictions in science are resolved by science itself.


[01-Jul-20 03:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism – huckstering and its preconditions – the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, and because the conflict between man’s individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.


[01-Jul-20 03:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We have to keep in mind that Marx here is talking about 19th century Jews, too


[01-Jul-20 03:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The stereotype of the greedy Jewish moneylender was somewhat based on reality back then, although Jews in Europe would go through an experience of proletarization and eventually have their whole world destroyed by genocide


[01-Jul-20 03:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx argues here for an emancipation of man from the material constraints of capitalism — all social positions associated with the system would become practically superfluous and religion would take on a properly subjective, human character. He predicts it would dissipate eventually


[01-Jul-20 03:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53236050

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Roblox accounts hacked to support Donald Trump
Video game avatars have been changed to display pro-Trump messages in a hack targeted at children.
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[01-Jul-20 03:38 PM] illumnious#7938
:AngryFaceID: :AngryFaceID:


[01-Jul-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's really dumb


[01-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/dangeredwolf/status/1278116109636349953

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[01-Jul-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dangeredwolf/status/1278224707406499840?s=19

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Not sure what this ad is asking
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[01-Jul-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Would you do him?"

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[01-Jul-20 04:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Gay


[01-Jul-20 04:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/i/events/1278201874848444416

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US buys almost the entire global stock of potential COVID-19 treatment drug
The United States Department of Health Human Services (HHS) has bought almost all the supply for the next three months of remdesivir, an experimental drug made by Gilead Sciences which showed encouraging preliminary results following a trial on a small group of very sick patients with COVID-19. The US secured the entire stock of the drug for July and 90% of stocks available for August and September. Experts say this could mean remdesivir will not be available for use on patients for most of the world until October.
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[01-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Send some of that shit go to Brazil


[01-Jul-20 04:50 PM] ononim#8141
**FUCK** Iosif Vissarionovich Jugashvili 
All my homies **HATE** Iosif Vissarionovich Jugashvili


[01-Jul-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/505404-mcconnell-house-infrastructure-bill-going-nowhere-in-senate

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McConnell: House infrastructure bill going nowhere in Senate
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Wednesday that an infrastructure bill set to get a vote in the House will not be taken up in the Senate.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_063020bc3_lead.jpg


[01-Jul-20 05:11 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsfRCMUeMY

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[01-Jul-20 05:11 PM] ononim#8141
my favourite russian lib (to the point I don't even want to call him that) released a vid one le """vote""" today


[01-Jul-20 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Vote on what


[01-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1278037538809229312

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Black Jesus painting will be installed in one of UK's oldest cathedrals https://t.co/aMXFuliHY0
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[01-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but why?


[01-Jul-20 06:05 PM] ononim#8141
It doesn't matter and just symbolic gesture done to palacete people that won't affect anything people actually care for


[01-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Synfag#9241
it's either that or the cathedral gets vandalized or burned down by protesters


[01-Jul-20 06:06 PM] ononim#8141
also obligatory wall of text explaining how indeed Jesus look was localized by literally everyone around the world to look like majority population, from Europe, to middle East, to Ethiopia, to India, to China and Japan


[01-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Synfag#9241
isn't Jesus suppose to be  a middle eastern guy?


[01-Jul-20 06:08 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[01-Jul-20 06:09 PM] ononim#8141
He was a Hebrew in Roman levant


[01-Jul-20 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I guess? Well, it was two thousand years ago, who knows what the average person looked like then


[01-Jul-20 06:11 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m p sure Jesus and his disciples were tanned


[01-Jul-20 06:25 PM] Synfag#9241
if that's the case


[01-Jul-20 06:25 PM] Synfag#9241
then Jesus got really fried by the sun in that painting


[01-Jul-20 06:25 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/realBenjiirby/status/1276943829455843330

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Me and @ShemekaMichelle at the North Carolina State Capitol.

I was coming here to be a nerd and add this to my collection of State Capitol selfies when we ran into a #BlackLivesMatter protest...

with NO BLACK PEOPLE! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Should we go over there & ruin their day right now...
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[01-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
They lived in a fucking desert they’d probably be similar in appearance to Arabians


[01-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 there are genetic clues in the local populations and old burial sites.


[01-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
At any rate, Jesus as white is snow is definitely wrong.


[01-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tanned minimum, but more likely he would like something like a modern Syrian.


[01-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Archonix#5562
there is no wrong portrayal of jesus. he was localised to local cultural and ethnic norms of an idealised relgious image


[01-Jul-20 07:45 PM] soundtea#9032
you tend to see it in any religion brought to other regions


[01-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Archonix#5562
that's why he tends to look italian in italy, and japanese in japan


[01-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Archonix#5562
ethiopian portrayals of him, some of the oldest in the world, are very ethopian


[01-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Localized idealized ethnic norms just promote hatred of other groups in the end.


[01-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stikking with something actually true can help people get over their differences.


[01-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Archonix#5562
That's probably the most retarded thing I've heard all week, and I've been watching Boris blather about his amazing new deal.


[01-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Archonix#5562
Localised religious iconography gives people something they can identify with and feel close to.


[01-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Archonix#5562
I cannot believe that there are people in this current age demanding the destruction of religious imagery because it doesn't conform to some dogmatic ideology.


[01-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Archonix#5562
We're talking about suggestions of literal iconoclasm now.


[01-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Religion is an extreme form of culture that tries to control other culture and spread itself.


[01-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It trying to morph to be "identified with" might work for that spreading, but it also has implications on that control. It really shouldn't be okay that our religion helps with ethnic segregation.


[01-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
One more reason to burn all organized religion to the ground and stomp on the ashes, I guess.


[01-Jul-20 08:49 PM] ononim#8141
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/686328905296117793/727893950710415371/Dengism_1.mp4

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[01-Jul-20 08:49 PM] ononim#8141
tbh I'd say I am more with Archonix with it


[01-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Archonix#5562
none of what you said justifies tearing down religious imagery because it has the "wrong" skin tone. we've been through that in this country before. centuries-old, irreplaceable religious artefacts destroyed or defaced because their appearance was "offensive" to the new state. it was only inefficiency and local resistance that prevented them from going further than they did.


[01-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government is lying about 9/11

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[01-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thank you


[01-Jul-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/505449-gop-senators-debate-replacing-columbus-day-with-juneteenth-as-a-federal

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GOP senators debate replacing Columbus Day with Juneteenth as a fed...
Republican senators are debating whether Juneteenth, a day that commemorates the end of slavery in the United States, should replace Columbus Day on the federal government’s list of official holidays.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/cornynjohn_060920gn_lead.jpg


[01-Jul-20 09:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Itsthinking has been having that dream where he tells white people the truth again.


[01-Jul-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at a posh garden party no less


[01-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/europe/russia-referendum-putin-power-2036-intl/index.html

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Russian voters overwhelmingly back a ploy by President Vladimir Put...
The referendum paves the way for Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has been in power for two decades, to remain in power until 2036.
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[01-Jul-20 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, what did yall expect


[01-Jul-20 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For it to fail?


[01-Jul-20 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/07/01/tellme_sister/

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Asia Plus June 30, 2020 When she launched her first “I’m really scared to go out in the evening, or in revealing clothing.” A story of sexual harassment on the Instagram page Elen…
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[01-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
I saw a hypothesis in another server that not wearing masks is a loyalty test for trump supporters


[01-Jul-20 10:01 PM] ononim#8141
More like brain test


[01-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Yuri#4154
Killing yourself and/or your loved ones to own the libs


[01-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Yuri#4154
😎


[01-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
> Mask wearing in the USA has become a loyalty test for certain groups of people. In most other countries dealing with the COVID-19 crisis, mask wearing is simply a preventative public health measure. In the USA, however President Trump initially downplayed the significance of the pandemic and was criticized for this. As a result he doubled down and signaled to his followers that their group should treat the disease as fake and that people taking the disease seriously would be enemies. As u/Boxboy7 correctly pointed out, Trump has explicitly signaled that people wearing face masks are his enemy.
> 
> Humans live in groups and Loyalty Tests are an important part of human social cohesion. A Loyalty Test involves some kind of social signal that tells other people what group you belong to. The bigger and more dangerous the signal is, the more valuable it is to your in-group. For example, Yakuza in Japan will get extravagant full body tattoos and cut off their pinky to demonstrate their loyalty to their group. Both demonstrate that you have put yourself through extreme amounts of pain and have permanently marked yourself as part of the gang. This is such an extreme expression of loyalty that you have basically stated to the group that you are with them forever until you die, because you literally cannot leave the gang and rejoin normal society because you are marked for life. In return the group will protect you.


[01-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
> All human social groups have Loyalty Tests and signals of one sort or another. Sometimes it's an obvious thing like flying a flag, or speaking with a recognizable accent or language. You could also be sharing certain articles or memes on social media. If you're filling up your posts with memes supporting BLM then you are clearly signalling your loyalty to a certain social group. They are often part of rituals, especially if you are seeking admission to a group. Think of hazing at college fraternities and sororities. Extreme hazing means you've earned your spot.
> 
> Seen in this way, face masks are sort of the ideal expression of loyalty to certain social groups in today's society. Face masks are a very visible marker, they are literally worn on the face, the seat of our identity. This has historical precedent, see the Anti-Facemask League that was formed as San Francisco dealt with the Spanish Flu in 1918. In general, Loyalty Tests are more powerful when they are socially visible and incur risk. If no one can see your action and if your action was easy and riskless, then it's kind of worthless at demonstrating your loyalty. Refusing to wear a face mask is extremely visible and incurs the risk of getting a debilitating disease and is thus an extremely powerful loyalty test.


[01-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie ^


[01-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Yuri#4154
So...


[01-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Yuri#4154
A death cult


[01-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Yuri#4154
Got it


[01-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
not really


[01-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Yuri#4154
I can't see how they'll be able to vote for him when they're sick or dead though


[01-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Yuri#4154
I was mostly joking


[01-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
they don't actually want to die, it's the risk that makes it a very strong loyalty test


[01-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention the visibility


[01-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Yuri#4154
That's an incredibly huge risk


[01-Jul-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**RISK**


[01-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Yuri#4154
Normal people can just vote by mail or something when they're sick, but they're the ones who're opposed to that


[01-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well...duh?


[01-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something for your own safety that liberals say to do, that's mainly seen in other cultures, and is promoted by the scientific community, with reasons for religious communities to oppose?


[01-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's perfect for them.


[01-Jul-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
> That's an incredibly huge risk
do trump voters even get sick tbh


[01-Jul-20 10:30 PM] Honahue#0656
probably


[01-Jul-20 10:34 PM] Honahue#0656
not to downplay things but we're at just under 3mil cases and ~130,00 deaths which is still less than 1% infected (that we know of) and and even smaller fraction of deaths so statistically it's pretty easy to not know anyone personally infected or killed. Plus all the disinformation campaigns from talk radio


[01-Jul-20 10:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think they could literally stand there and watch someone with super-corona-ebola-dysentery turn themselves inside out and die and, covered in a shower of blood, stand there and say, "well, they're not me"


[01-Jul-20 10:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
A bizarre side effect of fear being the driving force behind their decision making is that if they're convinced there's nothing to fear, they will proceed with *reckless* fearlessness


[01-Jul-20 10:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
blame is a remarkably effective tool for taking a reasonable fear and redirecting it entirely onto a scapegoat. You won't find someone carrying a "no mask" card who doesn't also believe that the experts are lying


[01-Jul-20 10:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're not refusing to wear a mask, you see, they're "refusing to give in to the panic"


[01-Jul-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and marking their territory by spitting their pandemic venom at anyone who asks them to "give into the panic"


[01-Jul-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Japan-auto-companies-triple-Mexican-pay-rather-than-move-to-US

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Japan auto companies triple Mexican pay rather than move to US
Trump hailed new NAFTA as American job generator, but higher prices appear in offing
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[01-Jul-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump has accidentally just helped drag people in other countries out of poverty


[01-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Make the US so shitty to work in that sweatshops in other countries become superior from sheer resistance to being *that* bad:bigbrain:


[01-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ultimate end to bad labor conditions in developing countries.


[01-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Pontology#1010
>Jesus was black
hah


[01-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Pontology#1010
I mean, if people want to believe that because it helps them relate to him better, I don't see any issue.


[01-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Pontology#1010
Still funny though.


[01-Jul-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6WYw6H-VM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6WYw6H-VM
Florida Is Doomed
This is the greatest Florida meeting of All Time
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[01-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Pontology#1010
>Facebook echo-chamber
Yes.

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[01-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Pontology#1010
It's amazing how few people do basic research.


[01-Jul-20 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhh, is this unironic?


[01-Jul-20 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Iunno, could be an alt-right troll


[01-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Pontology#1010
A lot of black nationalists unironically believe this, yes.


[01-Jul-20 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've seen those


[01-Jul-20 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah the language used in the post doesn't sound too serious


[01-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Pontology#1010
A while ago I spent several hours wandering around so-called "black twitter", in particular the Nation of Islam and Black Hebrew Israelites people, and beliefs like this are common.


[01-Jul-20 11:59 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/trump-calls-proposed-black-lives-matter-sign-on-fifth-avenue-a-symbol-of-hate/2349102/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Trump Calls Proposed Black Lives Matter Sign on Fifth Avenue a ‘Sym...
President Donald Trump blasted New York City’s plan to paint the phrase “Black Lives Matter” on Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower, calling it a “symbol of hate” and demanding the city spend the money on policing instead. NYC officials said last week they would emulate other...
https://media.nbcwashington.com/2019/09/incendio-torre-trump-1-008.jpg?resize=1200%2C675


[02-Jul-20 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm aware of them, they're nutjobs


[02-Jul-20 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many black people disavow them in fact


[02-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[02-Jul-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In a more serious note, there were some high profile European cultural icons of African ancestry


[02-Jul-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as Russian poet Alexander Pushkin, who was a mulatto


[02-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Pontology#1010
huh, first real one I've heard of.


[02-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Pontology#1010
Noteworthy.


[02-Jul-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One of his ancestors was an African who was brought to Russia as a slave and rose up the ranks of the aristocracy


[02-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Pontology#1010
ye


[02-Jul-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Abraam Petrovich Gannibal


[02-Jul-20 12:09 AM] soundtea#9032
the best part is the BLACK MOZART people drown out the ACTUAL african european composer/champ fencer/ sympony conductor


[02-Jul-20 12:09 AM] soundtea#9032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_de_Saint-Georges

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Chevalier de Saint-Georges
Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges (December 25, 1745 – June 12, 1799) was a champion fencer, classical composer, virtuoso violinist, and conductor of the leading symphony orchestra in Paris. Born in the French colony of Guadeloupe, he was the son of George Bologne de ...
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[02-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
https://reason.com/2020/06/21/michigan-state-university-vp-of-research-ousted-because-of-his-past-scientific-statements/

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Michigan State University VP of Research Ousted Because of His Past...
He remains a tenured faculty member.


[02-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[02-Jul-20 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sorry, what statements exactly are they saying he was ousted over?


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Pontology#1010
The anti-science is far more dangerous than the anti-science right.


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the article buries that if they make mention of it at all; I'm only able to find his rebuttal


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
> The union shared on Twitter June 11 several of Hsu's controversial remarks, including comments about selecting embryos based on potential intelligence, which is a theory GEU members compared to eugenics.


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
YIKES


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*oh.*


[02-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I've been having trouble finding what exactly he's said, but apparently it's been a lot of off-the-cuff things like this


[02-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Pontology#1010
What's wrong with that?


[02-Jul-20 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
With his statement, or with the concept of eugenics?


[02-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Pontology#1010
His statement


[02-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
this is the article that the reason.com article cite https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2020/06/19/msu-vp-research-resigns-after-controversial-comments-research/3226785001/

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MSU VP of research resigns after controversial comments prompt call...
MSU Senior Vice President of Research and Innovation Stephen Hsu submitted his resignation Friday following controversial statements on research.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/06/11/PLSJ/53815df9-bbd5-46d9-aad4-99e59ccfab6a-Stephen_Hsu.jpg?crop=3387,1905,x1,y0&width=3200&height=1680&fit=bounds


[02-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
the main thing that's wrong with it is that it implies absolute knowledge over what determines intelligence in a human (we aren't even close to figuring that out)


[02-Jul-20 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"potential intelligence" is a pretty hard sell that skips right past the ethical questions we haven't yet answered such as should embryonic selection even be a thing, let alone ones regarding congenital defects that are a direct result of genetics (downs syndrome, face-explode-syndrome, what have you), before you even GET to what Crow rightly points out is the crux of the matter


[02-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104

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The new genetics of intelligence
Recent genome-wide association studies have catapulted the search for genes underlying human intelligence into a new era. Genome-wide polygenic scores promise to transform research on individual differences in intelligence, but not without societal and ethical implications, as...
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fnrg.2017.104/MediaObjects/41576_2018_Article_BFnrg2017104_Fig1_HTML.jpg


[02-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Scientists have identified a _lot_ of the IQ genes


[02-Jul-20 12:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
again, that's selling past the close


[02-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Pontology#1010
He obviously shouldn't be canceled for what he said. He said nothing terrible.


[02-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
the other thing is that any attempt to determine "potential intelligence" would be colored by the already racially-colored aspects of determining intelligence to begin with


[02-Jul-20 12:20 AM] soundtea#9032
Dude, its literally eugenics


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that even if we *could* map all the so-called "IQ genes" there's far more evidence to support that any IQ-related genetic expression is more likely to be a result of epigenetics anyway


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Pontology#1010
It's legal in many states to abort a child solely because it has a genetic problem


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] soundtea#9032
We're supposed to be moving past dumb shit like "selecting" embryos because of how they may be shaped. Like that is the big thing that determines how smart they'll be


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Pontology#1010
The only reason eugenics in the 1920's was bad was that it was authoritarian and took away people's reproductive rights


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
it's a lot simpler to determine if a fetus has which genes that determines race, that would put a negative mark on the fetus's "potential intelligence"


[02-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Allowing people to choose good embryos with good genes does not interfere with anyone's rights


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In other words, even if you had a stupid gene it might not even get *expressed* unless you experience malnutrition in development - something that's got a far stronger correllation anyhow


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] soundtea#9032
Thing is in reality you have no fucking clue what determines "potential intelligence"


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] soundtea#9032
That's a pretty stupid term


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, fetal alcohol syndrome is a real thing


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Pontology#1010
The genes behind the heritable component of IQ


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Pontology#1010
of which 30% have been identified


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
what you're advocating for is basically gattaca


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] soundtea#9032
IQ doesnt mean as much as you think


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Pontology#1010
It means more than any other psychological concept


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can have the ultimate ubermensch genetic makeup but if your mom doesn't take care of herself and you, you can come out like Forrest Gump


[02-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Higher correlations with life outcome than any other single quantitative measure studied in psychology


[02-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes of course


[02-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
It's all only correlations that manifest in large-scale averages


[02-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
And has no meaningful individual predictive capability


[02-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca

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Gattaca is a 1997 American science fiction film written and directed by Andrew Niccol. It stars Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman, with Jude Law, Loren Dean, Ernest Borgnine, Gore Vidal, and Alan Arkin appearing in supporting roles. The film presents a biopunk vision of a future soc...
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[02-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Anyway, left-wing science-denial and cancel culture in academia is cancer


[02-Jul-20 12:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
whoa, back up, where'd the left-wing part of that come from


[02-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Who do you think is canceling Hsu?


[02-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
also, just because scientists have identified "a lot" of the "IQ genes" doesn't mean they're even close to figuring out how they all interact with each other


[02-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's likely to take a decade on its own to figure out


[02-Jul-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Identifying genes, and figuring out how they work are 2 completely different things


[02-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Crow#5457
it wasn't just that single comment either, there's apparently over a dozen of them over the years


[02-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Where is a list of them? I bet they're all utterly reasonable


[02-Jul-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention trying to figure out which of those genes is recessive, dominant, ect. Trying to figure out how your DNA utilizes it, how they operate in the body


[02-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://statenews.com/article/2020/06/michigan-state-geu-calls-to-remove-vp-research-administrator-stephen-hsu

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Hundreds of MSU professors, GEU call to remove VP of research Steph...
Hsu has been an outspoken advocate for eugenics or discouraging reproduction from those with genetic defects and disabilities with the intent of improving the quality of the human species.
https://snworksceo.imgix.net/tsn/67fa9dbe-3f5f-42c0-9b07-692bd2b56604.sized-1000x1000.jpg?w=800&h=600


[02-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Crow#5457
apparently he had a podcast with stefan molyneux


[02-Jul-20 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, how's this for reasonable: Both of the following suggestions could be interpreted as advocating for eugenics. Case 1: You have an embryo with a known genetic flaw. You kill the embryo and try again. Case 2: You have an embryo with a known genetic flaw. You induce a genetic alteration in vitro to stamp out that flaw and let the embryo continue to develop.


[02-Jul-20 12:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which one sounds more ethical?


[02-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Everything he said is either a reasonable opinion or correct science


[02-Jul-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
By some definition of reasonable, *neither* option I just posed would be considered as such


[02-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Pontology#1010
They're both reasonable, unless you're hardcore pro-life.

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[02-Jul-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even think you necessarily have to be


[02-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> unless you're hardcore pro-life


[02-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
You're forgetting how hardcore pro-life some of these guys are


[02-Jul-20 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, you can totally be for abortion but not genetic modification


[02-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"Sorry you were raped, but you have to keep the baby. What's that? You're only 12? *Bootstraps, motherfucker.*"


[02-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
🇺🇸 🦅


[02-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Pontology#1010
What's wrong with genetic modification?


[02-Jul-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Technically, nothing. Ethically...enough that we already have laws surrounding it in humans


[02-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
wow, this dude's gone back and edited/changed all of his blog posts that twitter cited as reasons for his removal

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[02-Jul-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
^ that right there is a red flag


[02-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Not really


[02-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
He's afraid of losing his job


[02-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
nvm, false alarm


[02-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
<https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-truth-shall-make-you-free.html> <https://archive.fo/3ld8y>


[02-Jul-20 12:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, just dead links?


[02-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
it's the same, he just added stuff saying he doesn't agree with why he's being cancelled


[02-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
> Racist inferences based on the results are the fault of the reader, not the authors of the papers or of this blog.


[02-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[02-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Kek, it's true


[02-Jul-20 12:37 AM] soundtea#9032
man you really do not help your case


[02-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Me?


[02-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
this is the woman who is attacking coco pops for being racist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Onasanya

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Fiona Oluyinka Onasanya (; born 23 August 1983) is a former Labour Party Member of Parliament (MP), removed from that role as a result of a criminal conviction. She was elected in the 2017 United Kingdom general election for the constituency of Peterborough, which she represen...
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[02-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
retarded meme is retarded


[02-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Pontology#1010
:shrug:


[02-Jul-20 12:39 AM] Pontology#1010
If you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.


[02-Jul-20 12:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If you’re a blood drunk everything looks like a beast


[02-Jul-20 12:45 AM] Pontology#1010
The identification of the genetic component of IQ, I think, one of the most important fields of modern academic research.


[02-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Pontology#1010
The overwhelming majority of human problems are due to human stupidity.


[02-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Pontology#1010
If we can artificially increase the IQ of humankind through genetic engineering, ideally in a feedback loop


[02-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Like the AI singularity, but for human intelligence


[02-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Pontology#1010
So that the average IQ centuries from now would be the equivalent of a 200 IQ today
It is extraordinary what we could achieve. It is the most natural thing for humanity to endeavor toward.


[02-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Why does she look like a Black Karen


[02-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:zeeb: :isee:


[02-Jul-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We dont kwno hwo the IQ genes work yet


[02-Jul-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We have only identified them


[02-Jul-20 12:48 AM] Pontology#1010
That's why the research is so important.


[02-Jul-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that could take decades


[02-Jul-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We again also don't know if it;s a recessive thing, a dominant thing, or a mix


[02-Jul-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and being 200IQ doesnt make you automatically a genius


[02-Jul-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
IQ is learning capacity, if you don't learn anything, your IQ means jack shit


[02-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Pontology#1010
It's all correlations that manifest in large-scale averages


[02-Jul-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> IQ, short for intelligence quotient, is a measure of a person's reasoning ability. In short, it is supposed to gauge how well someone can use information and logic to answer questions or make predictions. IQ tests begin to assess this by measuring short- and long-term memory.
If you feed a High IQ person nothing but facebook trash, the only thing they'll produce is facebook trash


[02-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Winston#2894
The whole concept of "IQ" as quantified by current systems is questionable anyway


[02-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Pontology#1010
I've contested nothing you've said Kobold.


[02-Jul-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I never said you did, i was giving a base definition to support my argument


[02-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Pontology#1010
What's your thesis? That increasing the average IQ of humankind wouldn't be helpful?


[02-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Winston#2894
Intelligence is clearly an emergent phenomenon that humans possess, but there's so much we don't even know about how it works or even agree on about how to classify various components of it exactly.


[02-Jul-20 12:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt do shit if you didnt have a good education system behind it


[02-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure, to a point.


[02-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Winston#2894
Whether or not some arbitrary and mostly subjective IQ quantification being increased would really help mankind is very debatable.


[02-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Pontology#1010
>mostly subjective
No


[02-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Winston#2894
Yeah.


[02-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Pontology#1010
It's the most objective thing in psychology


[02-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

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Heritability of IQ
Research on the heritability of IQ inquires into the proportion of variance in IQ that is attributable to genetic variation within a population. "Heritability", in this sense, is a mathematical estimate that indicates an upper bound on how much of a trait's variation within a ...


[02-Jul-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
IQ is the ability to use the information you currently have in your possession to reason. If you don;t give them proper education and information their IQ will just produce alex jones level trash


[02-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Pontology#1010
It is rather amazing how well-researched and objective a concept it is.


[02-Jul-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you need to information in your possession first in order to have said reasoning skills


[02-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Winston#2894
Uh, no. Heritability of IQ means there's a genetic component that leads to similar IQ scores, not that IQ scoring systems in themselves are really objective measures of the fairly subjective to begin with concept of intelligence.


[02-Jul-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drawing conclusions can lead to said information but that only goes so far if you have nothing to base it off


[02-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Pontology#1010
@prism stryder(intexda) Those of extremely high IQ will sometimes independently create reason, like the genius Ramanujan from a poor Indian village who re-invented complex numbers and number theory and so much more, regarded as approximately the most innately gifted mathematician to ever live.


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Pontology#1010
He didn't need a good education to make extraordinary contributions to mathematics.


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Pontology#1010
His innate genius alone was sufficient.


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Winston#2894
Not true.


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You assume he didnt have an education


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Winston#2894
Ramanujan had math texts which primed him with what was known at the time.


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone has an education, it's how you learn and grow


[02-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Pontology#1010
He had some, and he checked out books from a local library, but had no formal mathematics education.


[02-Jul-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
books count as an education


[02-Jul-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he self taught himself from books


[02-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Pontology#1010
Basically all he had was access to some books. He didn't have a formal mathematics education in the sense of high school or college.


[02-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Pontology#1010
The point is, for those who are extremely gifted, a good education system is partially irrelevant.


[02-Jul-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provided they have access to such


[02-Jul-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is also provided their learning style is built that way


[02-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Winston#2894
A good education system is not irrelevant because math is not the only thing a math genius needs to know


[02-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Part of high IQ is a versatile learning style.


[02-Jul-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/education/blog/types-of-learning-styles/


[02-Jul-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are 4 major learnigns tyles


[02-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and good education incorporates all four.


[02-Jul-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
auditory, kinesthetic, reading/writing, visual


[02-Jul-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and sometimes people have trouble with 3 of them and excel at the 4th


[02-Jul-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the example you gave, he excelled at reading/writing as a form of education


[02-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Reading/writing is what matters the most in research.


[02-Jul-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my case i;m more of a visual/kinesthetic learner


[02-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Pontology#1010
And I've little doubt that proficiency in more than one learning style is correlated with higher IQ.


[02-Jul-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
IQ is the ability to reason with information you have, it does not effect how you absorb said info


[02-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yuri#4154
Hey guys what's go-


[02-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yuri#4154
Nope


[02-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Winston#2894
That depends on how you define IQ


[02-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Winston#2894
If you define it as being about versatility, then duh, tautologically greater versatility will mean greater IQ


[02-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
As I said, I had little doubt that learning style was correlated with IQ. I wasn't wrong.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187704281102800X


[02-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Just because IQ doesn't directly measure something doesn't mean it isn't correlated with that.


[02-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Pontology#1010
The whole substantiveness of IQ is in its correlations with so many other things.


[02-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muh correlation equals causation.


[02-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Never said that


[02-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Winston#2894
Maybe that's because IQ tends to be defined as being about those things


[02-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's not causation, your whole argument falls apart.


[02-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like determining lifespan by how many drinks people hav.


[02-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
(rich people drink more)


[02-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
When you actually adjust for wealth, alcohol *reduces* lifespan.


[02-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Winston#2894
I, too, can create some test that correlates a higher result on it to some set of particular skills, then hold up those high test scores and proclaim that my chosen group are "better people" and it would be better for society to select for them.


[02-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Pontology#1010
The social world is a complicated networks of feedback loops. It's not proper to think in terms of causation for almost anything.


[02-Jul-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nicholas cages' popularity correlates with pool drownings, doesn't mean he caused them


[02-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me, fam.


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unscientific hodgepodge of justifications akin to the whole testing for "subconscious bias".


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
If it were unscientific, there wouldn't be genes behind it


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We dont know what these genes do yet


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
No, but we know they account for a substantive component of the heritable component of IQ


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we only know they exist


[02-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how science works.


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not science just cause you measure something.


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Winston#2894
The unscientific part is the proclamation that IQ necessarily has objective meaning making certain people better for society to select for


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Science is about determining processes via falsifiable experiments.


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is any of this falsifiable?


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] soundtea#9032
For example, high IQ doesnt mean you're exactly gonna have a strong will


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are your hypotheses?


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Just because we don't know exactly what they do doesn't mean we haven't established with statistical significance that they explain a part of the variability of IQ.


[02-Jul-20 01:20 AM] soundtea#9032
Or have great social skills


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or even be very knowledgable about things


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't call your bullshit science just cause you hav measurement tools.


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104

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The new genetics of intelligence
Recent genome-wide association studies have catapulted the search for genes underlying human intelligence into a new era. Genome-wide polygenic scores promise to transform research on individual differences in intelligence, but not without societal and ethical implications, as...
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fnrg.2017.104/MediaObjects/41576_2018_Article_BFnrg2017104_Fig1_HTML.jpg


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can be Engineering, but that's a low bar :lul:


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
This is mainstream science, Nebbie.


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so we've got some correlation


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
show me causation, bitch.


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prove to me you aren't circularing this by making IQ tests look for the traits those genes create.


[02-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, IQ doesn't cause your genes to change.


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Pontology#1010
So thinking the causation is the other way would seem to be the default hypothesis.


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Winston#2894
Just because you have measurement tools doesn't make unfounded leaps to conclusions pulled from those measurements science.


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Prove to me that if I alter someone's genes


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can affect their IQ


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Pontology#1010
That's not how it works. It's about altering the embryo's genes.


[02-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Further, prove to me that IQ actually causes other things that you define as good.


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do a control of the same DNA in the embryo


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
raised exactly the same


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
given the same resources


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
just different genes.


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
And show that they fall short on IQ, and as a result fall short.


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe then we can talk about those damn genes.


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Pontology#1010
The best we can do ethically is a prospective experiment in which the genes of thousands of embryos are analyzed, then followed throughout their adult lives accounting for confounding variables, to establish a causative effect.


[02-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't establish it being causative.


[02-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Causative requires that you be able to alter something.


[02-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There can always be some third party shit that both causes the thing you're looking at, and the result.


[02-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Pontology#1010
No, part of the brilliance of the design of a controlled experiment is that the "noise" of random variables cancels out between the control and experimental group.


[02-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Pontology#1010
You don't need to manually alter the control vs experimental groups.


[02-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Randomization is sufficient.


[02-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Winston#2894
Actually, the only way you could establish that higher IQ as caused by gene differences is really an overall good for society would be to follow the fortunes of entire societies that were similar at the point of the experiment's start and then diverged only in that one had a truly significantly higher number of higher IQ gene individuals vs. another.


[02-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Pontology#1010
:ajlies:


[02-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Then the whole world is an example, assuming that the measured ethnic differences in average IQ are due to variances in genetics.


[02-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Winston#2894
Assuming


[02-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Winston#2894
*Assuming*


[02-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Winston#2894
There's your problem with trying to cite ethnic divides as a valid IQ experiment


[02-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Considering the correlations I'd be shocked if it weren't a component.


[02-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Winston#2894
You're taking "It's a component" and jumping to "it's everything"


[02-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, "due in part"


[02-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I just want humankind to become interstellar :sadfilly:


[02-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Is that too much to ask


[02-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Winston#2894
My car's performance at the track might be "due in part" to fresh new slicks I swap in for my tires


[02-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
http://primarymodel.com/2020

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[02-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[02-Jul-20 01:34 AM] Winston#2894
but maybe it might be due even more to the way more powerful engine I swapped on, you know?


[02-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Winston#2894
Racists want us to be focused on the "tires" of genetics in that scenario


[02-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Without looking too much into it, how is this compatible with the polls showing Biden's 15% lead @Itsthinking


[02-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guy has been accurate but I also think a 91% chance for either candidate is wildly inaccurate.


[02-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Winston#2894
They're deceptively ignoring the engine of geography, local adaptation to circumstance out of need, history, colonialism, conquest, and so forth.


[02-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Not as much as you might think. It's not like IQ has a pro-white bias. East-asians have an average IQ of 106-108.


[02-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Pontology#1010
In China, Japan, Korea, Singapore, and also in America.


[02-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Winston#2894
East Asians have greater cultural emphasis on education, and educate similarly to the Western world.


[02-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Winston#2894
I'm not saying IQ has a pro-white bias. But it does have a very subjective pro-West and Western values bias.


[02-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you know


[02-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
what's the endpoint here?


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you find out that say, Arabs hav low IQ genes


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Pontology#1010
It also applies in their own countries though. It's not like China has western values.


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
what are you gonna do about it?


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Genetically engineer them to be smarter without touching anything else, right?


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Winston#2894
They similar values to Western values regarding education


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, it's to be used as rationalization for genocide


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Winston#2894
*they have


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what it always is about


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Genocide's just plain inefficient.


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Pontology#1010
No, kek.


[02-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should be hybridizing all races


[02-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
then pulling out the worse parts for what we want to be.


[02-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
One big brown race of super smart people.


[02-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Only if we do the genetic self-engineering alongside it.


[02-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
We should play God, beat him at his game, you know?


[02-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sadly, there's no actual throne of his to steal.


[02-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fox News always disappointing me with their lies.


[02-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyone who says humans can't play God needs to look at a pug and then question themselves.


[02-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Winston#2894
Not sure I wanna hold up a pug as a shining example of gene shaping


[02-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well it's humans playing God


[02-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
For worse, but still playing God


[02-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Winston#2894
https://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/185752-Your-Scientists-Were-So-Preoccupied-With-Whether-Or-Not-They-Could-That-They-Didnt-Stop-To-Think-If-They-Should.jpg

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[02-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Hassenfeld ponies when.


[02-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hard science lets us do things, soft science says why maybe we shouldn't


[02-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Pontology#1010
I want my biologically engineered FIM ponies.


[02-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Winston#2894
I dunno, I'm just waiting for AI to get smart enough to take us all out


[02-Jul-20 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Haha full metal alchemist dog girl scene


[02-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dog girls are bitches


[02-Jul-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[02-Jul-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/88-dollar-baseball-trump-organization-website-white-nationalism-hitler-2020-7

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[02-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gun-sales-soar-145-june-192336961.html

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Gun sales soar 145% in June amid protests, coronavirus pandemic
June marks the fourth month that has seen a noticeable increase in gun sales.
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[02-Jul-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-still-believes-coronavirus-will-just-disappear-as-cases-rise-2020-7

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Trump still believes coronavirus will 'just disappear' as the US ne...
President Donald Trump has repeatedly suggested coronavirus will magically "disappear" someday, but the numbers aren't on his side.
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[02-Jul-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will disappear someday because everyone is dead!


[02-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
focusing on genes is a technocratic solution even if it was a meaningful measurement of intelligence,. doesn't really matter if a kid has grade S genes for doing math or whatever if they never get to develop them without access to resources to use them.


[02-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[02-Jul-20 02:56 AM] Synfag#9241

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[02-Jul-20 02:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Disappointed db went back and gave arcine a place again tbh


[02-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Pontology#1010
NYT is obscenely anti-American


[02-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a disgusting paper


[02-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its not tho


[02-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Synfag#9241
if you only knew how bad things are


[02-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Pontology#1010
1619 project saying the American revolution was to preserve slavery


[02-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Pontology#1010
They finally had to retract that part after immense criticism and scrutiny


[02-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Defaming the very founding of our nation with smears and lies is just the tip of the iceberg


[02-Jul-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh i think that's the whole iceberg


[02-Jul-20 03:04 AM] Pontology#1010
There is a difference between progressivism and trying to poison the whole root of the nation


[02-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
American Revolution was because the wealthy elite didn't want to pay British taxes anymore


[02-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
British North America had the highest standard of living on the planet in 1776


[02-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
There two dozen reasons. They're in the Declaration of Independence.


[02-Jul-20 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what about the constitution?


[02-Jul-20 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
(Which was routinely circumvented in order to preserve the existing order btw)


[02-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Pontology#1010
The constitution that mandated the slave trade be abolished in 20 years?


[02-Jul-20 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Was it abolished?


[02-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Pontology#1010
I believe so, interpreted as no more importation.


[02-Jul-20 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not so quickly, and it took a very bloody war to abolish it


[02-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, to abolish slavery completely.


[02-Jul-20 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neither did the end of the slave trade matter much in the long term -- slave populations were on the rise after 1800 actually, iirc


[02-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm just saying, it's not like the original constitution was pro-slavery. It laid out a course for the partial abolition. Unfortunately, the south didn't want to give it up.


[02-Jul-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[02-Jul-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There is a difference between what's put to paper as a demand and what the material and political conditions allow a society to do


[02-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505566-biden-campaign-raised-10m-more-than-trump-in-the-month-of-june

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Biden campaign raised $10M more than Trump in the month of June
Former Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign and joint committees outraised President Trump’s by $10 million in June, Biden’s campaign said Wednesday.
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[02-Jul-20 06:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I don't wear underwear, for the same reason I don't wear mask. Things gotta breathe!

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[02-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
that lady must be a turtle they can breate through their anus


[02-Jul-20 06:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where can one attain this power?


[02-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
by being a turtle


[02-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
you mean mitch mcconnell?


[02-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
:spikegag:


[02-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/mitch-mc-connell-turtle-rocket-gif-8010144

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Mitch McConnell
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[02-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Honahue#0656
I suppose most politicians are turtles or some other reptile or amphibian cause they all talk out their ass

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[02-Jul-20 06:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If people don't wear a mask for not wearing underwears, shouldn't all people who wear underwears wear a mask?


[02-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Yuri#4154
:roseconfused:


[02-Jul-20 06:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least all the people on the beach should either wear a mask or don't wear anything


[02-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[02-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Yuri#4154
>don't wear anything


[02-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
America is too prudish for nude beaches


[02-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Yuri#4154
Now that's my type of beach


[02-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Yuri#4154
:ponkwithASCENDEDeyes:


[02-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Yuri#4154
America is really weird with sex


[02-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Yuri#4154
They're okay with showing ridiculous violence


[02-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Yuri#4154
But as soon as tiddy appears for one frame it's suddenly not okay


[02-Jul-20 06:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
You wear underwear all the time and your dick is shouting "I can't breathe!"


[02-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Yuri#4154
>you wear underwear all the time
Bold of you to assume such things


[02-Jul-20 06:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ummm... I forgot to type "if"


[02-Jul-20 06:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway... Do nude beaches really exist?


[02-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Honahue#0656
outside the US yes


[02-Jul-20 06:30 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it legal?


[02-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Yuri#4154
Apparently there are a few in Merica


[02-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Yuri#4154
According to Wikipedia


[02-Jul-20 06:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In which country? I must go there to see it one day


[02-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Honahue#0656
pretty sure Brazil does


[02-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Yuri#4154
And apparently in Denmark most beaches are clothing-optional


[02-Jul-20 06:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Nice


[02-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Honahue#0656
I feel like Denmark's beaches would be pretty cold tho


[02-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Honahue#0656
everyone's a woman at the Denmark nude beach


[02-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Yuri#4154
https://www.tripsavvy.com/nudism-in-denmark-1626204

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Nudism and Nudist Beaches in Denmark
Nudism in Denmark is popular and there are many nude beaches and campgrounds but it's important to learn the rules for both dedicated and mixed beaches.
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[02-Jul-20 06:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Damn I don't have enough money


[02-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Yuri#4154
Story of my life


[02-Jul-20 06:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And I'm now losing money in the stock market


[02-Jul-20 06:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:depressed:


[02-Jul-20 06:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Soulful Mirror i agree that OC, & certain artists who keep drawing canon mouth pieces are annoying as hell


[02-Jul-20 06:42 AM] jlun2#8758
& i dont mean joke pics, but topical politics :sad:


[02-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
I'm just really pissed at all the fire it's causing


[02-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
Many artists I follow already filed takedown request


[02-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
I'd rather just lose this OC than to lose all the others


[02-Jul-20 06:44 AM] jlun2#8758
were they the ones who drew mouthpiece images that get tons of downvotes followed by  artist going "why are ppl downvoting you are all nazis!"


[02-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
No


[02-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
Just regular artists


[02-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Soulful Mirror#4896
Normal people


[02-Jul-20 06:45 AM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[02-Jul-20 06:53 AM] soundtea#9032
there were going to be DNPs either way


[02-Jul-20 06:53 AM] soundtea#9032
ou just can't have any compromise with these kind of people


[02-Jul-20 06:53 AM] soundtea#9032
either you're 100% for getting rid of it or you support it


[02-Jul-20 06:54 AM] soundtea#9032
Can't wait to see what July's disaster of the month is


[02-Jul-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So far I haven't heard the names of any artists going full DNP. It all either appears to be more artists going the "artist upload only" route


[02-Jul-20 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or it's someone I've never heard of


[02-Jul-20 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, who do you follow that's requesting a takedown, and what are they requesting to be removed?


[02-Jul-20 07:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@soundtea https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff :shrugpony:

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Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[02-Jul-20 07:08 AM] jlun2#8758
i kinda expected it tbh


[02-Jul-20 07:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[02-Jul-20 07:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[02-Jul-20 07:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
📈


[02-Jul-20 07:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, the announcement is more of an apology than an explanation; gotta agree with the first handful of commenters that the post doesn't make it at all clear how the rules are changing


[02-Jul-20 07:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially since the bit about "racism, sexism, homophobia, [and] transphobia" is stuff that to some degree or another has been grounds for rule 0 violations since forever when it was used as the basis of personal attacks


[02-Jul-20 07:37 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Blossomforth has been more clear later on deeper in the thread.

"For right now, the rules are largely what they were before everything started — anything blatantly hateful or discriminatory is not welcome. Parody is fine. This is how the rules always have been, but we will be enforcing the rules against hateful content more sternly.

Though as noted above, we have a lot of conversations to have with our community regarding what the site's policies should be."


"Unless the content is clearly hateful, it will not be banned."

I trust the mods/admins to be able to make that kind of decision on images and posts.


[02-Jul-20 07:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That shouldn't be anywhere buried in the thread


[02-Jul-20 07:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That should have been the top post


[02-Jul-20 07:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This decision looks like "Hey, we're sorry we made a decision to make the rules stricter out of the blue without clear communication, here's a new decision out of the blue to make the rules stricter to make up for it"


[02-Jul-20 07:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I trust the mods to be able to do what you said, but PR is clearly not the strong suit here


[02-Jul-20 07:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I can't even *find* that post


[02-Jul-20 07:47 AM] jlun2#8758
legit does anyone know how post search works


[02-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think byte knows. I don't.


[02-Jul-20 07:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At any rate it's pretty clear that the apology is only making this situation worse


[02-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Nuke#0666
:KKK:


[02-Jul-20 07:51 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie :hug:


[02-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Nuke#0666
wh*te people are evil


[02-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you here to discuss politics or just be racist at random?


[02-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I will mute your ass if it's the latter.


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nuke#0666
No you won't.


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nuke#0666
Mods have no power over me :uglykek:


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Yuri#4154
He'll probably take it into #general-discussion now


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, I'll make sure to ban him when he does.


[02-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Yuri#4154
He did say that he's going for a ban speedrun or something


[02-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cool, sounds like fun.


[02-Jul-20 10:26 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
***T H I S  I S C N N B R E A K I N G N E W S***


[02-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Yuri#4154
And this isn't a shitposting channel


[02-Jul-20 10:34 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Ok. This was just to make fun of how America's news channels exaggerates the breaking news


[02-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Floor Bored#1593
Half these days I'm expecting to turn on the telly and hear about pony nazism on it


[02-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Yuri#4154
America was a mistake


[02-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Yuri#4154
No more America


[02-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Yuri#4154
Society has progressed past the need for America


[02-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Yuri#4154
Mexico and Canada are on thin fucking ice


[02-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ice melted in Mexico, it fell in.


[02-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada's zambonies are working around the clokk to prevent the same.


[02-Jul-20 11:12 AM] Memely#0001
@Raptorshy For the record, your post about the decensorship of content and allowance of speech was good. I dont know why there is this literal whiplash reaction about all this with the new post


[02-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Floor Bored#1593
I don't know either.


[02-Jul-20 11:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
the rules themselves before all of this were fine, if anything there only needed to be new staff so rule 0 could be better enforced, and a push for more reporting of posts that violate rule 0, rule 0 is inherently anti-bigot and anti-nazi, art that actively promotes bigotry it'd easily apply to.

No rules needed to change, just further emphasis on a rule that already exists.

an epic centrist "we should censor nazis and commies" answer satisfied noone, and replaced some censorship with more censorship.


[02-Jul-20 11:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
we just needed a pinned post saying that rule zero is clear in it's meaning and will now be enforced more strictly.


[02-Jul-20 11:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's all we need in general honestly.


[02-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Floor Bored#1593
I think that's what the current massive thread was trying to say.


[02-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
more staff to handle reports


[02-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
taking rule zero more seriously, try to make a culture of reporting violations more


[02-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
not extra rules so people just feel extra targetted


[02-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Yuri#4154
Yeah, I think that's what they were trying to say, but the post was panic-written


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
like banning average everyday communists like we who post here who don't tend to advocate for violence and genocide of minorities really uhhh, yes, I get it some people have read scare baked into their brain, but it comes across as very 'big brain radical centrist' and infantilizing


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
like I love me some AaronMK art


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
so that upset me a lot


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] Yuri#4154
Yeah, that part rubbed me the wrong way


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
like at no point did mr karl marx write:


[02-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes we shall genocide minorities for it is the only way to achieve communism


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Yuri#4154
Communism is _nothing_ like fascism


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyone can read the 17? page brochure that is the communist manifesto


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's all you need to understand it's goals


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Yuri#4154
I think they were trying to calm down the "but what about the commies" crowd


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, the same crowd also were pro free speech ironically


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's hilarious in a way mind you


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
they wanna censor the evil commies, AND have freeze peach


[02-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
can't have both lmao


[02-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Yuri#4154
"Free speech for me but not for thee"


[02-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Memely#0001
The Derpi censorship argument is just the argument of free speech vs removing racism. Both are valid, and require give and take from the other to happen


[02-Jul-20 11:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
have you noticed how irrationally some posters were hating on socialists/communists? how common 'helicopter ride' memes were


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Yuri#4154
I'm 100% sure that thread got linked on 4chan


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Possibly even on /pol/


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
like you can hate us based on our specific views, but im sick of being treated like a child 'vladimir stalin zedong killed 300 million and iphone venezueala'


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
like come up with new memes


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
please, I don't even mind debating, we're allowed debate


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
but that shit is cringe


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not an argument


[02-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Yuri#4154
Some people think communists are all tankies


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao, maybe like, 1 in 100


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're really not common, just loud


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Memely#0001

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[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
loud like unironic nazis and alt-right cringe


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
loud minorities


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean we literally know this by the DnP requests


[02-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Yuri#4154
And they love to swarm like flies any place that criticises China


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Or Stalin


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
far more progressive artists did DnP than the free speech crowd


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Yuri#4154
Or fucking _North Korea_


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, it's funny


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
because how are you supposed to y'know


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
organize


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
do irl shit


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
when you spend all of your time arguing about irrelevant literally who regimes/countries


[02-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
that don't affect you or your movement in the slightest in reality


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It wasn't linked on /pol/


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It was discussed on /mlp/


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
it was linked on /mlp/ and /mlpol/


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Yuri#4154
Personal attack right off the bat


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Yuri#4154
Nice


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, because you are jumping to conclusions based on biases


[02-Jul-20 11:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
mlpol has been posting around since the original drama, astroturfing, seen them all over the forums as background pones


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
very cringe


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
seen them posting about it too


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Yuri#4154
Protip:


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, because it's relevant to the fandom


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's really not hard to investigate this


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But twitter was doing the same


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Yuri#4154
If you want to get people on your side and you see they make a mistake


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Yuri#4154
Don't call them a moron


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
mlpol is unironic neo nazi territory lol


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Aight, sorry, I came on hard


[02-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Yuri#4154
I got a little heated too


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Yuri#4154
These past 24 hours have been... bad


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
didn't actually see any new progressive posters on the politics threads


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Yuri#4154
Oh boy


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's been shitty


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
just people posting nazi shit


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Yuri#4154
The Derpi political threads


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
my home ❤️


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, but /mlpol/ isn't really that big


[02-Jul-20 11:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
it isn't, there wasn't a whole lot


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Anyways,


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
but a couple mlpol posters are on the db forum thread


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
were butthurt


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
lol


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
a lot of /mlp/ is just people who want to post as much pony art as possible


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
I should really be sleeping


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Staying awake for 20+ hours probably isn't healthy


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
/mlpol/ is kinda out there


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I should be sleeping too


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
Nini


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
night


[02-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Yuri#4154
:RubySleeper:


[02-Jul-20 12:06 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
What the people pushing this censorship of Derpibooru don't and refuse to understand is that most if not all of the Nazi art is just jokes. It's not actually serious. It's funny because it's wrong. It's funny to take sweet&innocent things and corrupt them. This is a staple of adult humor. Robot Chicken does this all the time. They'll make kids' show characters rape and murder each other. The same way that the Robot Chicken writers aren't actually pro-rape and murder, the people making the Nazi art aren't actually pro-Holocaust/pro-racism. Derpibooru doesn't have a Nazi problem. These are irreverent shitposters.

There's also that Derpibooru allows pedophilia, necrophilia, rape, torture, and murder, so it's hypocritical and nonsensical to act like Nazi and anti-BLM art is somehow different and worse. That is based entirely on arbitrary, personal preferences. It's ridiculous for this website to take a stance and act like it has a moral high ground and a heart of gold when there's art of adults raping children until they bleed.  That is not _better_ than a screencap of a pony raising its hoof with "sieg heil" written on it or a drawing that says "white lives matter". Because that's what the staff is saying by allowing it to stay. That child rape is what they consider acceptable and better than politically incorrect joke art, even if no one is actually being harmed in any way and it's not pornographic.


[02-Jul-20 12:10 PM] dan-#1915
unfortunately having funny jokey nazi content can sometimes convince people who hold those views for real that they're welcome in the place too. and saying that one thing's wrong doesn't mean you're saying that everything else is right or even acceptable


[02-Jul-20 12:12 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Just because some bad people are attracted to something doesn't mean we should throw a blanket ban on it. It punishes the larger number of normal people who like that thing.


[02-Jul-20 12:16 PM] Wheeshnaw#6969
Why are they not welcome?


[02-Jul-20 12:17 PM] Wheeshnaw#6969
Why are communists and modern leftists who would like white people to go away, welcome?

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[02-Jul-20 12:17 PM] Wheeshnaw#6969
Freedom of expression means freedom for ALL.

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[02-Jul-20 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[02-Jul-20 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
yes, me, an ebil karltural marxist wants to genocide all white people


[02-Jul-20 12:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
that is literally a nazi talking point, very cringe lmao


[02-Jul-20 12:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
we literally joke about white genocide in leftist circles in the context that people are stupid enough to think that we hate white people or some shit, it's only liberals (who are centrist by definition, being pro-capitalism), who believe in weird creepy white guilt shit lmao


[02-Jul-20 12:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
like if someone were to join a leftist server I may shitpost 'welcome to white genocide HQ'


[02-Jul-20 12:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
because it's such a hilarious meme that people unironically believe that damn


[02-Jul-20 12:29 PM] wren#0114
> because it's such a hilarious meme that people unironically believe that damn


[02-Jul-20 12:29 PM] wren#0114
interesting


[02-Jul-20 12:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
hmm yes today I shall attend the white genocide meeting


[02-Jul-20 12:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
like damn, maybe you need to stop reading great replacement conspiracy shit


[02-Jul-20 12:30 PM] wren#0114
this is the same argument from the other side


[02-Jul-20 12:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
how so?


[02-Jul-20 12:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
elaborate


[02-Jul-20 12:32 PM] wren#0114
a lot of people also say they post edgy nazi pony because "it's such a hilarious meme that people unironically believe that"


[02-Jul-20 12:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah I have no problem with dickheads posting aryanne


[02-Jul-20 12:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
most communists don't care about dumb memes like aryanne being posted


[02-Jul-20 12:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's only when aryanne is saying 'gas the griffs, race war now' the problem is there lol


[02-Jul-20 12:33 PM] wren#0114
kek


[02-Jul-20 12:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
she's just an edgy OC to most of us


[02-Jul-20 12:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
there are some loud peeps abound


[02-Jul-20 12:44 PM] Synfag#9241
lmao
yes, me, an ebil jewish nazi wants white pride world wide
that is literally a leftist talking point, very cringe lmao
we literally joke about the Fourth Reich in conservative and libertarian circles in the context that people are stupid enough to think that we hate people of color or some shit, it's only neonazis (who are actual nazis), who believe in race war shit lmao
like if someone were to join a right wing server I may shitpost 'Hitler did nothing wrong'
because it's such a hilarious meme that people unironically believe that damn


[02-Jul-20 12:44 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
> saying that one thing's wrong doesn't mean you're saying that everything else is right or even acceptable
@dan- But they are saying it's acceptable because they're accepting it. They control what is and isn't on their site. If they can ban bigoted images, they can ban any category, so they want to ban Nazi/anti-BLM stuff and aren't banning child-rape. That says something. That they're virtue signalling hypocrites.


[02-Jul-20 12:45 PM] Synfag#9241
...
you see the problem here


[02-Jul-20 12:47 PM] dan-#1915
@reversalmushroom I don't get why you're yelling at me, I agree that it's horrid and shouldn't be on there either


[02-Jul-20 12:55 PM] reversalmushroom#7173
I wasn't yelling. And I thought you were talking about Derpibooru, saying they also think it's unacceptable. But if you were referring to the users, I would say that they're also not pushing for all the topics I mentioned to be removed like they are this, which is hypocritical. Anything they're not pushing to be removed is something they think is better.

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[02-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Floor Bored#1593
Wanna know something really funny? I lurk in the Aryanne server and I just realized that this server is in the same folder on my Discord; probably by accident but still funny.


[02-Jul-20 01:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
the difference is, white genocide isn't real but white pride/racism is a real issue that hurts people damn


[02-Jul-20 01:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
not a valuable comparison


[02-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Synfag#9241
yes, racism is a real issue
but that doesn't mean that all white people get smeared with such a broad brush


[02-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Synfag#9241
that's what Nazis did with the Jews


[02-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Synfag#9241
How much are you willing to bet
that eventually
somebody will suggest the *final solution to the white people question*


[02-Jul-20 01:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
lmao, that's just whataboutism


[02-Jul-20 01:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
call me when that's ever happened in history in any first world country


[02-Jul-20 01:47 PM] Synfag#9241
so all white people are racist by default?


[02-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Synfag#9241
because it's starting to look like you are only satisfied at either all or nothing


[02-Jul-20 01:48 PM] dan-#1915
damn what a leap, how'd you get so good at jumping


[02-Jul-20 01:48 PM] dan-#1915
wish I could jump like that


[02-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am sure they know each other, both being from 4chan.


[02-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[02-Jul-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn my legs are getting a bit swole, but not swole enough to compete with that


[02-Jul-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
gonna need to practice my gymnastics


[02-Jul-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
though something tells me I won't be using my legs for this gymnastics


[02-Jul-20 02:03 PM] Synfag#9241
*"whataboutism"*
the perfect defense against being called out as a hypocrite


[02-Jul-20 02:03 PM] Synfag#9241
nothing I can do with that


[02-Jul-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
where was I a hypocrite?


[02-Jul-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
explain


[02-Jul-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
elaborate


[02-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Synfag#9241
why do you care?


[02-Jul-20 02:06 PM] Synfag#9241
you already masterfully deflected everything I said so far with that one word


[02-Jul-20 02:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
just saying it like it is, you're 'whataboutisming' a thing that has never happened and likely will never happen, as a reason to somehow say that people intend to deal with 'the whitey question'


[02-Jul-20 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
comparing leftists to nazis is also a very cringe big brain horseshoe theory argument with no credibility and would make anyone in any level of knowledge of political science burst out in laughter


[02-Jul-20 02:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
you are simply making yourself look like more and more of a fool


[02-Jul-20 02:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't need to make imaginary scenarios up to justify myself lmao


[02-Jul-20 02:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
but go ahead, be a clown, I've got better things to do like sleep lmao, goodnight


[02-Jul-20 02:15 PM] Olibird#8782
>white genocide isn't real
Big thonk right there


[02-Jul-20 02:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Another channer


[02-Jul-20 02:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
_Sigh_


[02-Jul-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which version of white genocide are we talking about? The no true armenian one, or the american conspiracy theory that immigrants are trying to replace white people?


[02-Jul-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
the second one obviously


[02-Jul-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
you're cringe if you don't believe the turks hate armenians


[02-Jul-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, that sleep thing, blehh


[02-Jul-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
hard after all this dumb stressful shit


[02-Jul-20 02:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
mind you, that was over christianity


[02-Jul-20 02:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
not being white


[02-Jul-20 02:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, the armenian genocide happened, it was just called the armenian genocide though some like to call it the white genocide and apply a no true scottsman fallacy to it


[02-Jul-20 02:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
Turks love to deny the Armenian one to this day, which is wild


[02-Jul-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, yes, sleep thing, sweet dreams friend


[02-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Olibird#8782
I'm going to go with the constant narrative that whites are monsters if they marry within their own race


[02-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Olibird#8782
that they're evil and need to be destroyed if they protect what's theirs from black supremacists


[02-Jul-20 02:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's dumb. people should marry who they want. the issue comes in when the try to force other people to marry who they demand they marry


[02-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Olibird#8782
that everything whites do is pure evil and needs to be dismantled


[02-Jul-20 02:27 PM] Olibird#8782
I agree! Unfortunately, that's not the narrative that's being pushed


[02-Jul-20 02:27 PM] Olibird#8782
the narrative that's being pushed is that if you're white and date within your race, it's because you're a literal nazi


[02-Jul-20 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have never seen this narrative pushed by anyone other than the people claiming it's happening


[02-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Olibird#8782
https://twitter.com/alexand_erleon/status/1278228891518238721

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Before you ask:
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- no, it's not racism if POC exclude white people from their sex lives (this is often done to protect from racism...
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[02-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Olibird#8782
and now you have


[02-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Synfag#9241
opposing opinion
automatically a channer now


[02-Jul-20 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh so this is like those idiots who claim that gayu people are discriminatory for not datign women. got it


[02-Jul-20 02:32 PM] Olibird#8782
Oh no, I actually post all my stories to 4chan, but that's because I'm not a fan of FIMfiction and their refusal to provide any sort of constructive criticism


[02-Jul-20 02:33 PM] Synfag#9241
ok then


[02-Jul-20 02:33 PM] Olibird#8782
typical leftist mental gymnastics. Deny the issue until it's shoved in your face, then minimize it as much as possible


[02-Jul-20 02:35 PM] Synfag#9241
> like those idiots who claim that gayu people are discriminatory for not datign women
your whataboutism is showing


[02-Jul-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you jsut cut a part of my statement out to make it sound liek my opinion


[02-Jul-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good going mental gymnist


[02-Jul-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you really earned that gold medal


[02-Jul-20 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/target-clap-slowclap-applause-goodjob-gif-10321174

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[02-Jul-20 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you win the debates forever!


[02-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Synfag#9241
> jsut liek my opinion
ye, keep telling yourself that


[02-Jul-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
obligatory diversity gif


[02-Jul-20 02:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Where is nebbie with his mutes when he is needed


[02-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:depressed:


[02-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Olibird#8782
despite being only 13% of the population, blacks make up 50% of that gif


[02-Jul-20 02:41 PM] THG#7415
Holy hell what happened last night?


[02-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Synfag#9241
whataboutisms, diversity gif, and final solution to the whitey question.


[02-Jul-20 02:41 PM] THG#7415
I can't believe derpi pulled a pissed off parent move and took everyone's toys away, that's actually pretty cool


[02-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Olibird#8782
literally the opposite of what everyone wanted


[02-Jul-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
>some random twitter person noone cares about
>1350
damn I need to sleep, I'm disappointed but not surprised at this mask off cringe


[02-Jul-20 02:43 PM] Olibird#8782
>uniconically calling things cringe
What are you, 12?


[02-Jul-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
good argument


[02-Jul-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
I am btfo eternally


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-suggests-book-by-trump-niece-serves-public-interest-2020-7

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Judge lifts temporary restraining order against publisher and sugge...
A New York judge ruled Wednesday that the public has a legitimate right to know more about President Donald Trump, the world's most powerful man.
https://i.insider.com/5efd4082988ee3098f40a342?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
how will i ever recover


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] THG#7415
I reckon they'll reinstate the art they've taken off once everyone stops yelling at each other


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] THG#7415
Might take a few years


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] Olibird#8782
How they gonna reinstate the art?


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
dumbasses on twitter posting shit doesn't make white genocide real please go visit real life some time lmao


[02-Jul-20 02:44 PM] THG#7415
It's not technically deleted, just hidden


[02-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Olibird#8782
It's web 2.0, there aren't too many archives anymore


[02-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Olibird#8782
>visit real life some time lmao
You mean like where there's anti-white riots in every major city? kay


[02-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
/pol/ is real life now


[02-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:dab:


[02-Jul-20 02:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anti police riots, not anti white riots


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
http://apne.ws/fTYkoqM

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A predicted surge in US job growth for June might not last
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. employers likely rehired several million more workers in June, thereby reducing a Depression-level unemployment rate, but the most up-to-date data suggests that a resurgent...
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[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
telling the police to stop murdering people of all colours is anti-white


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] Olibird#8782
remind me what they call the police again? Oh yea, they call em white supremacists


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
white people get murdered all the time by your fucked policing but okay


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] Olibird#8782
yea ok


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://apnews.com/cddec060d38eacbb708a47120d34af51?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP

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US adds 4.8 million jobs as unemployment falls to 11.1%
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. employers added a substantial 4.8 million jobs in June, and the unemployment rate fell to 11.1%, as the job market improved for a second straight month yet still remained...
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[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the police literally flashed white surpremacy symbolism at them


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
because there's systemic bias there and overpolicing in black areas, studies showing white people get charged less for the SAME CRIMES


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] THG#7415
I'm not actually *for* censorship.
But derpi banning all forms of hate from all sides is actually justice at this point.


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] Olibird#8782
That's why they riot when whites are killed


[02-Jul-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
this is studied shit


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Olibird#8782
Geoge Floyd, a white victim of police


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Thank you @THG for that


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Synfag#9241
police are so demoralized
I don't see much hope from those guys
retirements in droves already happening


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
well, why aren't you rioting when whites are killed?


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
I didn't see you rioting


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Olibird#8782
Says who?


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Olibird#8782
How do you know I haven't been rioting whenever a white has been killed?


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, did you?


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
because you're not rioting most days of the week


[02-Jul-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
you wouldn't be here


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] THG#7415
Perhaps if everyone stopped arguing and creating drama over images, derpi wouldn't need to take away there toys.


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
american police kill more than basically the whole of european police combined per year


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Olibird#8782
it's early in the morning, I gotta make breakfast before I go rioting


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
including tonnes of white people


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
more people a year than days in a year


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
by far


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
go on riot boy


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
go riot boy go


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Olibird#8782
yea, that's why the motto of the riots is all lives matter


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why riot on streets when you can riot on twitter


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain:


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
smooth brain time


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Olibird#8782
why riot on twitter when you can riot on discord


[02-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Synfag#9241
didn't you hear?
All lives don't matter until Black Lives Matter


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the all lives matter argument that completely misses the point of blm


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
brainlet takes approaching, be warned


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Olibird#8782
aaahh, the nebulous point of blm


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Olibird#8782
that doesn't exist


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
brainlet takes approaching


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
they're here


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Olibird#8782
>I have no argument so I'll call everything you say dumb and cringe


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Nebbie


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
cmon


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Can you repel this 4chan invasion


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] THG#7415
Oh BLM the organisation that destroys property and harasses white people for being white.
Yes, very progressive


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
let us blow off some steam in these trying times


[02-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Olibird#8782
you're absolutely right dissociativity, you SHOULD go to bed


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
I've been here for years


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, I'm sleepy


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
you rite


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Olibird#8782
so go to sleep


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Olibird#8782
the sun's up here, that means you're up too late


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
zzzzzzzz


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
upside down land go zzzz


[02-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Olibird#8782
:moonie:


[02-Jul-20 02:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
ily nerd, shittalk more tomorrow ❤️


[02-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Olibird#8782
:lemmesmash:


[02-Jul-20 02:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/01/politics/trump-campaign-june-fundraising/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Biden tops Trump with $141 million fundraising haul in June
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden outraised President Donald Trump with a $141 million fundraising haul in June as each campaign gears up for the general election.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200409020412-biden-trump-split-super-tease.jpg


[02-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Olibird#8782
oh right there's an election going on


[02-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Synfag#9241
blm donate button directs to actblue


[02-Jul-20 02:52 PM] THG#7415
BLM are just as racist as the people they claim to be against.
It's an entirely vicious ideology built on making all white people responsible for the actions of slavers and ofcourse, for the actions of blacks who haven't done anything with their lives.
And everyone just gobbles up the systemic oppression argument.

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[02-Jul-20 02:54 PM] THG#7415
I have never seen a single piece of proof that blacks are any more oppressed than anyone else.
I've seen alot of statistics ofcourse, like most people. But these stats never make clear what the suffering of other races is like.


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-speak-mount-rushmore-fireworks-display-guests-2020-7

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Experts worry Trump's Mount Rushmore Independence Day celebration i...
Health experts have said the event might help the coronavirus spread, and a wildfire expert said the fireworks could spark fires in the nearby forest.
https://i.insider.com/5efd0b8a5af6cc3c0f6c5895?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Bruh


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Olibird#8782
aaahh, yes


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] illumnious#7938
You mean Blue lives matter or black


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Olibird#8782
I love how a virus has an ideology


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Who cares


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Olibird#8782
it spreads if you support trump, but it doesn't if you don't


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Synfag#9241
> Who cares
the Democrats care


[02-Jul-20 02:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Ha


[02-Jul-20 02:56 PM] THG#7415
Modern politics is garbage, keep it the hell off derpibooru.


[02-Jul-20 02:56 PM] illumnious#7938
> the Democrats care
@Synfag I was referring about the post what @prism stryder(intexda) share


[02-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Olibird#8782
I think derpibooru should disable comments for good


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] THG#7415
They won't


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Olibird#8782
allow all images, no commenting on them


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Synfag#9241
I thought it was the blue/ black lives matter thing


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] THG#7415
Derpibooru has become too reliant on its community


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Olibird#8782
and its community sucks


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Olibird#8782
see: last night


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Synfag#9241
Derpibooru bent the knee


[02-Jul-20 02:57 PM] THG#7415
Derpi never should have caved


[02-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Olibird#8782
:this:


[02-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Olibird#8782
caving only leads to them demanding more


[02-Jul-20 02:58 PM] THG#7415
It should have stood firm as an an impartial source of pony art


[02-Jul-20 02:58 PM] THG#7415
Taking a political stance automatically creates conflict with the opposition


[02-Jul-20 02:59 PM] dan-#1915
any stance is political


[02-Jul-20 02:59 PM] THG#7415
Not 'we host pony porn here, sir'


[02-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Synfag#9241
woot: hello
derpi: ye?
woot: is this ben?
derpi: who?
woot: Ben D. Nee


[02-Jul-20 02:59 PM] THG#7415
Lol


[02-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Synfag#9241
> Taking a political stance automatically creates conflict with the opposition

well, it's either a #cancel spree happens
or they cave to the mob


[02-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[02-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Synfag#9241
not much choices there


[02-Jul-20 03:02 PM] THG#7415
Yes there is actually


[02-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Synfag#9241
one other choice is woot receives a wave of pony porn


[02-Jul-20 03:02 PM] THG#7415
You stand firm as a neatral ground for all pony art


[02-Jul-20 03:02 PM] THG#7415
Woot doesn't deserve shit


[02-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Synfag#9241
with big dicks


[02-Jul-20 03:03 PM] THG#7415
He's a drama whore who doesn't need anymore attention


[02-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Synfag#9241
huge


[02-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Synfag#9241
massive schlongs on pone


[02-Jul-20 03:05 PM] Synfag#9241
and then send him plush horsecocks


[02-Jul-20 03:06 PM] Olibird#8782
Thing is, caving didn't prevent the #cancel spree


[02-Jul-20 03:06 PM] Olibird#8782
Reminder that woot roleplays a rapist futa babseed on Discord


[02-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Synfag#9241
like I said


[02-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Synfag#9241
send big dick pony art to him


[02-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Olibird#8782
He also had no problems with his main rp partner playing Aryannne


[02-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine all these people defending aj plantation art a couple of months ago


[02-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What a rapid transformation


[02-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Celtica#4754
I just want to remind everyone this is a fucking pony art forum, how in god’s name did it come to this shit I’ll never know


[02-Jul-20 03:36 PM] THG#7415
Letting the community have a say in what can and can't be posted + politics = this


[02-Jul-20 03:36 PM] THG#7415
Again, the issue is the staffs inability to not overly react when their community whines about something


[02-Jul-20 03:37 PM] THG#7415
The community should not and never should have had this much control over derpis content


[02-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Celtica#4754
I guess so, still I feel sympathy for the staff I can’t imagine how much stress they’re going through


[02-Jul-20 03:41 PM] THG#7415
I hate to be 'that guy', but they did it to themselves


[02-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I only know a couple of staff who are super political


[02-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Most staff are neutral


[02-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So maybe don't group them all together.


[02-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Olibird#8782
staff are a group. a decision from the staff, comes from the group


[02-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Celtica#4754
Oh off topic but https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53255964

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Putin strongly backed in controversial reform vote
The result could allow the president to stay in power until 2036, but critics say he wants to be tsar.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/0486/production/_113185110_tv062233194.jpg


[02-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Celtica#4754
I’m shocked, just shocked that Putin won


[02-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Important decisions are made by admeens


[02-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Deleted User_f2Gh575hg24#1788
https://imgur.com/gallery/YBhPdWr

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Dear government. This guy nails it
https://i.imgur.com/s1Ne358h.jpg

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[02-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Deleted User_f2Gh575hg24#1788
This guy is insane


[02-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Olibird#8782
...he's not wrong tho


[02-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The only "insane" part here seems to be rich mimics and tone. If you read text, it is fine.


[02-Jul-20 04:29 PM] illumnious#7938
And the spits what's coming out of his mouth is pretty fucking insane


[02-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*/scrolls further up*


[02-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...right. How about those stocks?


[02-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Floor Bored#1593
📉


[02-Jul-20 04:57 PM] illumnious#7938
:stonks:


[02-Jul-20 04:58 PM] ononim#8141

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[02-Jul-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-stop-boris-johnson-refuge-millions-hong-kong-citizens-2020-7

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China warns the UK it will take 'corresponding measures' to stop mi...
It comes after China passed a controversial national security law in Hong Kong which has already seen hundreds of pro-democracy protestors arrested this week.
https://i.insider.com/5efdd2893ad8617cc0618a15?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Jul-20 06:33 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/tylerwinklevoss/status/1278689189022896130?s=19

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https://twitter.com/tylerwinklevoss/status/1278689189022896130?s=19
Good. Now, let’s make sure she doesn’t “kill her self” in custody this time and actually makes it to trial. The victims deserve this much. https://t.co/tjGdy3aBxl
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Twitter


[02-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh man I see a bit of "no evidence of systemic opression" up above


[02-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just gotta completely ignore things like police literally arresting their own state representatives when such are blakk, or planting drugs on blakk people, or all the studies showing they perceive blakks as bigger threats I guess.


[02-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
And certainly can't be looking at how blakk areas get fewer voting machines per capita despite more people and also get much more police presence.


[02-Jul-20 06:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Also trmp is going to be in the fucking party


[02-Jul-20 06:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nope, just gotta not take a moment to consider that when a blakk guy tries to cash a chekk for a settlement for being discriminated against, and the bank calls the cops, but his white lawyer the next day can cash it no problem, there might be a problem.


[02-Jul-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly white people get shot for sleeping in their cars all the time by police, it's totally a thing that happens


[02-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Nebbie you are a bit late, there were so many shitposters saying this oppression a myth


[02-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[02-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
I know.


[02-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Olibird#8782
> like police literally arresting their own state representatives when such are blakk
So what? Representatives aren't sacrosanct. They aren't above the law. If they're on the streets breaking the law, they absolutely should be arrested


[02-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Olibird#8782
> all the studies showing they perceive blakks as bigger threats I guess.
If you want to talk about studies, why don't we talk about the studies that show that police are more likely to shoot white people than they are to shot blaccs


[02-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Honahue#0656
because there are more white people so yes in absolute number more whites get shot but in reletive terms blacks are more likely to get shot


[02-Jul-20 08:40 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow if you want a serious answer, given how in 🇺🇸 the word "socialism" gets misused like tons, prob very easy there to mistake communism as "russian nazism"


[02-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Olibird#8782
They account for that in studies


[02-Jul-20 08:41 PM] jlun2#8758
which before anyone screencaps thats not what i believe ty


[02-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Wheeshnaw#6969
> clearly white people get shot for sleeping in their cars all the time by police, it's totally a thing that happens
@prism stryder(intexda) 

Lol, he managed to wake up just in time to tackle an officer and taze him before getting shot. There's video of it.


[02-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Wheeshnaw#6969
If a white dude tries that, he's getting shot too


[02-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Olibird#8782
>sleeping
You mean passed out. He was durnk


[02-Jul-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
different incident


[02-Jul-20 08:47 PM] jlun2#8758
@Soulful Mirror if you know any artists DNPing pls convince them to vote in their own countries 🙏


[02-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Honahue#0656
who cares if he was drunk, rather someone sleeps it off than tries to drive home


[02-Jul-20 08:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuckin news searches are buried by the rayshard brooks incident, this coudl take awhile


[02-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Olibird#8782
legit, do tell?


[02-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Olibird#8782
Well Honahue, he was drunk and passed out in the middle of a drive-through


[02-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Olibird#8782
people couldn't get around him


[02-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Olibird#8782
I think DUI laws are so draconian that they're bullshit, but uh...that ain't the place to sleep it off


[02-Jul-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was years ago but police were called out to investigate a blakc man sleeping in his car because he was likely homeless and they shot him


[02-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Honahue#0656
damn guess she should die cause someone couldn't get their late night nugs


[02-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Olibird#8782
It was the middle of the day, iirc


[02-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Olibird#8782
While I could see it, sleeping in your car is risky no matter what you do


[02-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/12/willie-mccoy-shooting-vallejo-police-55-shots

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Police fired 55 times at Willie McCoy. An investigation called it '...
The 20-year-old aspiring rapper had been sleeping in his car at a Taco Bell when Vallejo police shot him
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[02-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
this one


[02-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
they basically had his car surrounded with police officers for 15 minutes before they shot him


[02-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
the first officer also arrived on the scene about 15 minutes before they had the car surrounded too


[02-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
I watched the video, iirc none of them even tried walking up to the car and knocking


[02-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Olibird#8782
Oh shit, I've actually BEEN to Vallejo!


[02-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Olibird#8782
That place is fucking terrifying


[02-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Olibird#8782
or..wait, California. Nevermind


[02-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
they were sitting around discussing what to do for like 15 minutes, then the dude twitched, they all started screaming "put your hands up", then when he started waking up to the yelling, they executed hem


[02-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Olibird#8782
I thought it was Vallejo Indiana


[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Olibird#8782
I mean. For every case of black guys being shot by cops for no good reason, you can find three cases of white guys being shot by cops for no good reason


[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] wren#0114

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[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] wren#0114
what the hay


[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Banned things in Forza

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[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Olibird#8782
>He had a gun with him in the car


[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not only a Confederate flag or swastika, but also "Free Candy" or the Pornhub logo


[02-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Olibird#8782
:ThonkTheMusicVideo2:


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
I didn't know having a gun was illegal in the US


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
he was fucking asleep


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Olibird#8782
WHAT'S WRONG WITH FREE CANDY VANS


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
you don't execute people for being asleep in their car


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Olibird#8782
It's callifornia, having a gun basically IS illegal there


[02-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Banning the Confederate flag is a bad move


[02-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What, I'm not allowed to have a white car anymore?


[02-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Honahue#0656
kek


[02-Jul-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.azmirror.com/2020/06/04/the-most-horrific-thing-family-of-dion-johnson-reacts-to-video-of-him-dying/ there was also this incident recently

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‘The most horrific thing’: Family of Dion Johnson reacts to video o...
Dion Johnson was 28. A protector, a comedian, a passionate family man, said his sister, Camille Landrum. He had the biggest heart, said his aunt.
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[02-Jul-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s hard to tell what went down as the body cam was never turned on so all we have is audio of the cop calling in


[02-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Olibird#8782
I don't see why "not sleeping in your car in inappropriate places" is so fucking hard


[02-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
no one said that


[02-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
How is the confed flag ban bad in forza?


[02-Jul-20 09:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
dukes of hazzard, the general lee


[02-Jul-20 09:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
One of the more famous television cars out there


[02-Jul-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://rollingout.com/2019/04/25/unarmed-black-couple-shot-by-police-was-singing-love-songs-in-car-video/ this also happened, they weren;t sleeping but still

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Unarmed Black couple shot by police was singing love songs in car (...
An evening out and a drive in the car turned into a life or death situation for a Black couple in New Haven, Connecticut. Stephanie Washington, 22, and her boyfriend Paul Witherspoon III, 21, were sitting in their car kissing and singing love songs to one another when two poli...
https://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Couple-shoot-by-cops.jpg


[02-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Olibird#8782
>no one said that
Well evidently it is, or so many people wouldn't be doing it and getting shot!


[02-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Olibird#8782
Ok, I KNOW I've been to New Haven, and the cops there are power tripping fuckwads


[02-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Olibird#8782
They told me once that flat out they didn't care what the law said


[02-Jul-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> It was the night of Tuesday, April 16, 2019, when a BOLO alert for a red vehicle that was at the scene of a nearby armed robbery of a newspaper delivery man, was put out by police. Officer Devin Eaton, of the Hamden Police department and Officer Terrance Pollock, with the Yale University campus police, responded to the crime and spotted the couple’s car.
> 
> As the police approached the vehicle, Witherspoon exited the car and Eaton and Pollock opened fire without provocation. Witherspoon fleed the scene without injury, but his girlfriend was struck by gunfire in the face.


[02-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Olibird#8782
yea, they've tried to pick fights with me, and I'm white as hell


[02-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Honahue#0656
I love the passive voice reporting of a cop shooting someone in the face


[02-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Olibird#8782
they're pieces of shit to everyone


[02-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Oh my God


[02-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
How did I forget about the lee


[02-Jul-20 09:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCsKERUF5o&feature=youtu.be

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10 Tampa Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCsKERUF5o
Florida sheriff says he'll deputize lawful gun owners if deputies c...
Clay County Sheriff Darryl Daniels shared a video on Tuesday, stating he will "make special deputies of every lawful gun owner" in the county if his deputies aren't able to handle all the protesters.

In the three-minute video, the northwest Florida sheriff calls out "the main...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LWCsKERUF5o/maxresdefault.jpg


[02-Jul-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that won't go horribly wrong


[02-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Olibird#8782
>Florida Man


[02-Jul-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lawful gunowner deputy florida man


[02-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Yuri#4154
What if


[02-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Yuri#4154
Florida is a fever dream we're all having?


[02-Jul-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds about right


[02-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
“*I shot the sheriff... and 300 deputies shot back at me*.”


[02-Jul-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the florida man deputy riots of 2020


[02-Jul-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[02-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
It’s almost like everyone in the South likes to go outside


[02-Jul-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and not wear a fucking mask


[02-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Going outside doesn't automatically giv you the virus.


[02-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's being stupid with your hygiene that does.


[02-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wear a mask, wash your hands, don't get close to people.


[02-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Yuri#4154
Stonks


[02-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
I'd like to see the graph of california


[02-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
It gets muggy in masks real quick below a certain latitude. I use one, but it’s not much of a change for one individual


[02-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take mugginess over horrible disease that drowns you in your own blood.


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Olibird#8782
>seperate NY to make the blue line appear lower than it should be


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Olibird#8782
:thinkhorse:


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
but


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
if you put NY in


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
the blue line would go even lower


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Olibird#8782
that's not how that works


[02-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Separating NY actually makes the blue line look closer


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, summation


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That wouldn't affect anything in the tail tho


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
NY's cases are near-0


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Olibird#8782
yea, it wouldn't affect the tail


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
It'd only change the initial bump.


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The initial bump isn't the argument.


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Olibird#8782
but it would most certainly affect the intial bump


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
The tail is.


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Olibird#8782
What argument?


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Blue states had it bad but then got better.


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the graph shows.


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
swamp face is unpleasant but i'll take it over dying or having life long complications because of viral horror


[02-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Olibird#8782
That's a graph, it's math


[02-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Red states had things go crazy just now.


[02-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
This disparity suggests that conservative politics are behind the recent rise in the virus.


[02-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or that something causes both.


[02-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Olibird#8782
you're absolutely right. Those conservatives rioting in atlanta that's causing a massive spike in infections down in that red state


[02-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[02-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
The logical thing would be that the different measures taken in red states are causing a resurgence.


[02-Jul-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump and pence are also having rallies again, which means shit tons of maskless people gathered in one location to incubate the virus and thne go home to spread it around


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It can't be just Trump


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Olibird#8782
Yea. Remind me what state Atlanta is in, again?


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
That'd be way too small.


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is true


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Olibird#8782
Oh, right Georgia. A state that was red in 2016


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
What does Atlanta hav to do with this?


[02-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you mean the Floyd protests, previous studies showed those aren't the cause


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Olibird#8782
>previous studies


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Olibird#8782
aahahahaha


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Olibird#8782
what studies


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Olibird#8782
do tell


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/30/black-lives-matter-protests-did-not-cause-an-uptick-in-covid-19-cases

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Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases
Stay-at-home tendencies actually increased
https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/20200704_WOM905.png


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
protestors are actually pretty good about wearing masks AND TAKING precautions


[02-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh hold on, that's paywalling me.


[02-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

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Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases
Surprisingly, research suggests that protests actually may have led to increased social distancing.
https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/fit-in/1200x0/filters%3Aformat%28jpg%29/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F1253643987%2F0x0.jpg


[02-Jul-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the problem is also the states that opened early especially the beach states


[02-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
`In fact, they determined that, based on cellphone data, “cities which had protests saw an increase in social distancing behavior for the overall population relative to cities that did not,” leading to “modest evidence of a small longer-run case growth decline.”

The study’s lead author, Dhaval Dave of Bentley University, said, “In many cities, the protests actually seemed to lead to a net increase in social distancing, as more people who did not protest decided to stay off the streets.”`


[02-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Olibird#8782
> “cities which had protests saw an increase in social distancing behavior for the overall population 
Well no shit on that one


[02-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Olibird#8782
Cowering in your house from people rioting in the streets will do that


[02-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/24/883017035/what-contact-tracing-may-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus

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Parties — Not Protests — Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus
Erika Lautenbach, director of the Whatcom County Health Department in Washington state, says protests against police violence aren't among the catalysts for the spread of COVID-19.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/06/24/gettyimages-1220013438_wide-d5c386dcc4077fc04ac4ae9a1059994dcf1a29ae.jpg?s=1400


[02-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
'"We're finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren't wearing masks, are our primary source of infection," Lautenbach says. "And then the secondary source of infection is workplace settings. There were 31 related employers just associated with that one party because of the number of people that brought that to their workplace. So for us, for a community our size, that's a pretty massive spread."'


[02-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Olibird#8782
>NPR
Might as well be linking Mother Jones there


[02-Jul-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/as-states-reopen-cases-surge-in-places-that-were-once-cold-spots/

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As States Reopen, Cases Surge In Places That Were Once Cold Spots
A handful of states record-high numbers even as many metro areas that were once hot spots are reporting declines. Some experts are concerned, but state leaders downplay fears, saying that the numbe…
https://khn.org/wp-content/themes/kaiser-healthnews-2017/static/images/placeholder.jpg


[02-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do you want in terms of sources?


[02-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Olibird#8782
those first two were actually great


[02-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/

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NPR (National Public Radio) - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources ar...
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[02-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
'Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH'


[02-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you want to pikk and choose sources, explain your reasoning.


[02-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Olibird#8782
NPR has an extreme racial bias, and an extreme anti-Trump bias. Yea, ok, they report facts, but they love twisting shit around for why Blompf and whites are bad


[02-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Olibird#8782
and I say this from listening to em for YEARS


[02-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/gww2zgvtxf851.jpg

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[02-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Olibird#8782
~~cause there was nothing else better on the radio in New England~~


[02-Jul-20 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/505627-florida-records-over-10k-covid-19-cases-highest-single-day-increase

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Florida records over 10K COVID-19 cases, highest single-day increase
Florida recorded 10,109 new COVID-19 cases on Wednesday, the highest single-day increase for the state.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/desantisron_120629getty.jpg


[02-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Olibird#8782
I wouldn't attribute left wing or right wing politics to Florida turning into a disaster zone


[02-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Olibird#8782
that one's pure greed


[02-Jul-20 09:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem isnt political bias, the problem is the people making it about politics


[02-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Olibird#8782
>Hey you need to close the beaches
>no you need to close the beaches
>seriously it's spring break and everyone who flew down there is clumping together, they're going to leave and bring the Shanghai Shiver back home with them
>why did you wait until after spring break to close the beaches

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[02-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Olibird#8782
>why are you reopening the beaches again you know this ends badly
>you just saw how badly this ended
>plz no
>plz stop


[02-Jul-20 09:59 PM] wren#0114
>the Shanghai Shiver


[02-Jul-20 09:59 PM] wren#0114
my sides


[02-Jul-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if assholes hadnt hoarded certain types of masks at the start, there might be more heat ventilated masks to go around


[02-Jul-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt prevent swamp face but it certainly makes it more bearable


[02-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Honahue#0656
having had a big beard for the last 6 years swamp face doesn't bother me


[02-Jul-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it gets me slightly light headed after awhile indoors. it does a bit better outside


[02-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Olibird#8782
Legit, I lost my chance at a new job because of it


[02-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Olibird#8782
Had to do a physical test while wearing a fucking mask and oh look, I couldn't breath through the thing, and they said my heartrate was too high because of it


[02-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Olibird#8782
~~that's why I have so much time to come back here and shitpost now~~


[02-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Honahue#0656
remember like 4 years ago when the fitness fad was wearing those high altitude masks


[02-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Olibird#8782
Lord


[02-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
they have resistance breathing stuff now


[02-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
I wear a mask to the store btw, and I'm a mile above sea level.


[02-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get on my level.


[02-Jul-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm at an elevation of 72'


[02-Jul-20 10:11 PM] wren#0114
r u so high because flying


[02-Jul-20 10:11 PM] wren#0114
o thought you were crow


[02-Jul-20 10:11 PM] wren#0114
i need more sleep


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hey wren, want to join the mile high club?


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
My bedroom's a good place for it.


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
:lul:


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] wren#0114
no thanks im saving it for marriage


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] wren#0114
🙏


[02-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Disgusting.


[02-Jul-20 10:13 PM] wren#0114
:no_u:


[02-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Crow#5457
sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation


[02-Jul-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-students-throwing-covid-parties-infected-officials/story?id=71552514

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Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected:...
Rising infections prompt Gov. Kay Ivy to extend 'Safer at Home' orders.
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[02-Jul-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right, covid parties are also a thing


[02-Jul-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because either drunken students, or parents who think it's like the fucking chicken pox


[02-Jul-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"My little tommy got it young, so he won;t have issues down the road or catch it again"


[02-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Yuri#4154
America what the fuck


[02-Jul-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile people who attended pox parties as a child now have fucking shingles


[02-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Olibird#8782
If you're young, it IS like the chicken pox


[02-Jul-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
young children have died from it


[02-Jul-20 10:23 PM] Olibird#8782
Yea, and young children have died from the chicken pox


[02-Jul-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they dont become immune to it jsut because they got it once, you can absolutely catch it again


[02-Jul-20 10:23 PM] Olibird#8782
That's a myth


[02-Jul-20 10:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the chicken pox or the covid?


[02-Jul-20 10:24 PM] Olibird#8782
Covid


[02-Jul-20 10:25 PM] Honahue#0656
I got chicken pox, then I got shingles wouldn't recommend


[02-Jul-20 10:25 PM] Olibird#8782
Yeeaaa


[02-Jul-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/herman-cain-hospitalized-with-covid-19.html

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Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain hospitalized with Cov...
Cain was photographed at President Donald Trump's rally in Oklahoma sitting in close proximity with other attendees, none of whom appeared to be wearing masks.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105848831-1555076622168cain.jpg?v=1593709158


[02-Jul-20 10:40 PM] Olibird#8782
Well that was on him for not wearing a mask


[02-Jul-20 10:41 PM] Olibird#8782
Party of personal responsibility and all that


[02-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Pontology#1010
Masks don't protect you from getting it


[02-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Pontology#1010
They only reduce your risk of transmission to others


[02-Jul-20 10:46 PM] soundtea#9032
which you should be doing in *any public event if you're even crazy enough to go to one*


[02-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
People not wearing masks should not be allowed to events.


[02-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
That includes Trump and Pence.


[02-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/csngAyE-AQE

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[02-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is taking winning the South seriously

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[02-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Olibird#8782
Depends on the mask


[02-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Olibird#8782
An N95 mask absolutely will protect you from it


[02-Jul-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gloves also help, though arent as important as the mask


[02-Jul-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially with shopping at walmart and handling a cart


[02-Jul-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you don't know who's used those carts before you


[02-Jul-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just remember to dispose of the gloves as you leave walmart or else you;re just carrying walmart with you everywhere


[02-Jul-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/libbyjones715/status/1277245399795982337 thread

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[02-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Pontology#1010
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/resignation-of-a-concerned-assistant?post_id=4850266

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[Resignation of a Concerned Assistant] - Site and Policy - Forums -...
Derpibooru is a linear imagebooru which lets you share, find and discover new art and media surrounding the show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic


[02-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Pontology#1010
**"We were told to just lie"**


[03-Jul-20 12:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The mods in here haven't said anything yet


[03-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Huh. No one ever told *me* to lie :ponythinking:


[03-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~granted I never actually *did* anything beyond link approvals and tag descriptions~~


[03-Jul-20 12:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Bet next function that we find is some kind of derpi social credit score, where our comments won't even show up to other users if it's too low

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[03-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Don't even joke about that


[03-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
I wasn't really in the loop with the shadow ban thing, but I know there's no social credit score


[03-Jul-20 12:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah it's probably called positivity score instead


[03-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*[insert funding by Tencent joke here]*


[03-Jul-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
if this was honestly funded by corperations i dont think there would be anything nsfw at all


[03-Jul-20 12:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's the joke :sosmol:


[03-Jul-20 12:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~I could technically use *any* corporation for the joke, but Tencent is the most polarizing~~


[03-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-spectacle-dnp-pledge

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[03-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[03-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[03-Jul-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I've seen that


[03-Jul-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just


[03-Jul-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The lady's face behind Paul makes the picture


[03-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Marukomuru#8409
That's a special kind of mental gymnastics that I never thought was possible


[03-Jul-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senator-blocks-military-promotions-to-shield-vindman-from-trump-2020-7

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A US senator and Army veteran says she'll block over 1,000 senior m...
"It is about protecting a merit-based system from political corruption and unlawful retaliation," Sen. Tammy Duckworth said Thursday.
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[03-Jul-20 02:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/thrasherxy/status/1278703871053963269

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[03-Jul-20 02:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-man-who-posted-regret-attending-party-died-day-later-n1232675

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[03-Jul-20 02:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Regret always comes too late, doesn't it?


[03-Jul-20 02:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Hong Kong activists are planning refuge to Ireland and city builders are planning a new city to be 50% Hong Kongers.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/developer-looks-ireland-potential-home-new-city-hong-kong-people-1035574

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[03-Jul-20 02:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I should probably start learning some Cantonese


[03-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@aperture_tech these where fererealy controlled cops 
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
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[03-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This still happned


[03-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/02/tucker-carlson-2024-republicans-348334

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Tucker Carlson 2024? The GOP is buzzing
The Fox News host's ratings have gone gangbusters, and many Republicans think he'd be a force in a Republican primary.
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[03-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Pontology#1010
>Most watched cable news program in history


[03-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Pontology#1010
I had no idea he was that popular.


[03-Jul-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so his vice president is alex jones then?


[03-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Tucker is not a conspiracy theorist, but a hardline conservative


[03-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Apples and oranges


[03-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has advocated many conspiracy theories in the past


[03-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such as covid being a liberal hoax


[03-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
granted he's more liek glenn beck than alex jones


[03-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Pontology#1010
He never said that, and neither did Trump


[03-Jul-20 03:50 AM] ScriptKitty#9030
We all know covid was just invented to distract from the dinosaur bones found on Mars.


[03-Jul-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right, they called the infection rates a liberal hoax, not the virus itself


[03-Jul-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump declared it basically cured in february and said democrats only brought it up to make him look bad


[03-Jul-20 03:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump did say he thought it was hoax though.


[03-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but that was "behind the scenes" and "not in public" so clearly it doesn;t count at all /s


[03-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[03-Jul-20 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
historical revisionism is fun


[03-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump had a literal 6 month advanced notice on this shit and he used it to play golf


[03-Jul-20 03:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
he said it speaking to the media.


[03-Jul-20 03:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, why people gotta support neolibs that only care about funneling more money into billionare's pockets


[03-Jul-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're not a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, and certainly not billionaire, you will probably never own a home, let alone a decent one without inheritance from relatives dying, please stop shilling for billionaires and their friends thanks


[03-Jul-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
this applies to biden too ofc


[03-Jul-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh, and tucker


[03-Jul-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
especially murdoch daddy pls tucker


[03-Jul-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
who only LARPs about caring about working class people with psuedo-leftist messages sometimes


[03-Jul-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hilarious thing is trump is still semi calling it a hoax that will just vanish after election day because the "democrats are done using it to scare my followers"


[03-Jul-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or something like that


[03-Jul-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and he's trying hard to just stop testing entirely so he can plug his ears and cover his eyes and go "It's a hoax! Look, there;s nothing there and the do nothing democrats can't possibly prove it exists! You know it! I know it! But they tell you otherwise because 'Trump always lies', they say!"


[03-Jul-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-still-believes-coronavirus-will-just-disappear-as-cases-rise-2020-7

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President Donald Trump has repeatedly suggested coronavirus will magically "disappear" someday, but the numbers aren't on his side.
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[03-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
Well, boys, we did it


[03-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Yuri#4154
Coronavirus is no more


[03-Jul-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it's all because we nuked canada!


[03-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Pontology#1010
@PwnyPony Trump never said he thought coronavirus was a hoax. That was fake news from a deceptively edited Biden campaign video that spliced together two different parts of a Trump speech to make it sound like he was saying that.
According to Snopes:
> "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721

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Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'
“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus,” Trump said at a rally on Friday.
https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_09/3249561/200228-donald-trump-maga-rally-south-carolina-ac-732p_f6c39d434bd113524795711dc481a0f6.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, fake news


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Snopes:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

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Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a 'Hoax'?
Trump's commentary on the new coronavirus came before the virus began killing patients in the U.S.
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[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
According to Snopes:
> "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
This is what the media does.


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Watch the actual video


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He says "this is their new hoax"


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Are you saying Snopes is fake news?


[03-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
I watched the video


[03-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
He was referring to Democrats politicizing it


[03-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
As Snopes was able to recognize


[03-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was saying that worry about the virus is a "hoax".


[03-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's highly disingenuous to say that's not referring to the virus itself and is therefore okay.


[03-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was saying that it would kill less people than the flu, that it wasn't anywhere near as bad as some were predicting.


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was basically saying that it's a hoax that the virus would actually be a *problem*.


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Pontology#1010
A headline saying "Trump calls worry about the virus Democrats' new hoax" and "Trump calls coronavirus Democrat hoax" are two different universes of different.


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Even if that's what he was saying.


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care about the headline


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
what Trump said was horribly stupid


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't Carlson a liberal?


[03-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
he ignored what his administration was told coming in about the possibility of a pandemic


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Pontology#1010
No, he banned travel from China way back in January


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has continued since then to completely ignore that it's actually a problem


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Pontology#1010
He took action earlier than almost anyone


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the action he took wasn't correct


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He had experts flow into China and flown bakk without proper protective gear


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
and without telling the damn airline what they were up to


[03-Jul-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also disbanded the pandemic response team


[03-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also didn't impose general travel quarantines


[03-Jul-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically told the scientists to fly back on normal passenger airlines


[03-Jul-20 04:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Just banning china would not have worked anyway. look at Italy.


[03-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Pontology#1010
We should have completely closed the border except for essential travel.


[03-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wouldnt have done anything though


[03-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Why not?


[03-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because airlines


[03-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Airlines doing essential travel? Quarantine.


[03-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump stopped the quarenttines because they made him look bad


[03-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Pontology#1010
The virus cases began in the U.S. from non-essential travel of people traveling from overseas.


[03-Jul-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is "now this news" a credible news source to you?


[03-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Pontology#1010
I think negatively of it, but I evaluate every article by the merit of the individual article.


[03-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Pontology#1010
If it has citations and documentation, I follow those


[03-Jul-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what sources do you think of as credible?


[03-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Basically all but wacky fringe ones.


[03-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
They just have their biases, but if one reads past it to the facts, the facts are generally accurate.


[03-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Having in-article hyperlinks and citations helps a lot.


[03-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Pontology#1010

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[03-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Pontology#1010
I read progressive things too. I just understand that they're narrated from one side.


[03-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Doesn't mean the facts in it are fake news.


[03-Jul-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9XWTbbSGA here;s a basic timeline of how the pandemic response went down

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[03-Jul-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://khn.org/news/evidence-shows-obama-team-left-a-pandemic-game-plan-for-trump-administration/ hjere;s a source for the first part of the tiem line

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There’s an actual paper trail.
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[03-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
>Completely skips over Trump banning travel from China
This is bias.


[03-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
They claim to say the timeline accurately. Completely omitting that fact is bias.


[03-Jul-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i gave you this video exactly one minute ago, thye havent even gottne to that point in the timeline by then


[03-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't trust that video when they omit facts that relevant to from their timeline. How do I know they're not omitting other facts?


[03-Jul-20 04:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53253195

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[03-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Pontology#1010
I skipped ahead in the video to January to see. They completely omit it.


[03-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
If they hadn't, I would have been more willing to trust they don't omit other facts from the timeline.


[03-Jul-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
where do you hear trump;s china ban from?


[03-Jul-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was it from trump himself?


[03-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html
Trump Administration Restricts Entry Into U.S. From China
The travel disruption sent shocks through the stock market and rattled industries that depend on the flow of goods and people between the world’s two largest economies.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/31/business/31CHINA-TRAVEL-HFO/31CHINA-TRAVEL-HFO-facebookJumbo.jpg


[03-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Pontology#1010
New York Times, Jan 31


[03-Jul-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/31/as-far-right-calls-for-china-travel-ban-health-experts-warn-coronavirus-response-would-suffer/

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Health experts warn China travel ban would hinder coronavirus response
A handful of conservative lawmakers and far-right supporters of President Trump are calling on the U.S. government to ban travel from mainland China.
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[03-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, of course they opposed it back then. Now, even Canada has completely closed its border.


[03-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
That anti-science conservative Trudeau government.


[03-Jul-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

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The Facts on Trump's Travel Restrictions
President Donald Trump has made a number of misleading statements about his decision on Jan. 31 to impose travel restrictions related to the novel coronavirus epidemic.
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[03-Jul-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wasnt a ban it was a restriction


[03-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, U.S. citizens could still return, and a few other exceptions.


[03-Jul-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we were still getting travellers from china, it was just less travellers


[03-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty sure banning U.S. citizens from returning would have been unconstitutional in some way. But this is just semantics.


[03-Jul-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2 the probably infected science team from china had to travel on an ordinary passenger plane form china to the US


[03-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing in the constitution says you can't be forced to stay overseas a while.


[03-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
I know, but there's all kinds of funny legalese and jurisprudence. Maybe I should have said "violated law". Something that the Supreme Court would shoot down.


[03-Jul-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But they omitted one event form an accurate timeline that i skipped ahead to find because i;m impatient and dont feel liek lsitening to evidence"


[03-Jul-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he didnt even ban travel from china, that was your claim


[03-Jul-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he restricted it


[03-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Semantics of "ban". Ok, "restricted".


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a restriction is not a semantic on ban


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
How about this, "banned Chinese nationals unaffiliated with the U.S."


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are 2 very different things


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he didnt even do that


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had several meetings with chinese embassadors after jan 31st


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 week quarantine on travel.


[03-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
My state did this btw


[03-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and it resulted in us barely getting anything


[03-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Chinese embassadors are affiliated with the U.S... they're ambassadors to us


[03-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
then we rescinded that


[03-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
and now we've got cases coming up all over.


[03-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Pontology#1010
This is silly semantics


[03-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Regardless, omitting the fact that Trump restricted travel from China on Jan 31st—which was national news, NYT etc—instead saying that on Jan 31 he "held a rally" is intentionally deceptive.


[03-Jul-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the travel restriction didn't even stop the virus, after that failed he did fuck all to try and prevent the spread and then started confiscating medical equipment form states whose governors he didn't like


[03-Jul-20 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of his corona virus press conferences were just mini election rallies where he badmouthed the press a bunch, called the virus a non threat and called democrats a bunch of liars who are out for him. and then his one suggestion for curing the virus was to suggest we disband the task force, re-open the economy, and that the virus would kill itself in sunlight and summer heat


[03-Jul-20 04:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or that it would magically vanish after nov 3rd because the democrats were done using it against him


[03-Jul-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but sure he restricted travel from china, so that totally counts as "doing something"


[03-Jul-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
btw they mention the travel restriction for feb 2nd when it went in effect


[03-Jul-20 04:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump ordered it on jan 31st, it went into effect feb 2nd


[03-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile, the virus was already in the country, and had been for some time.


[03-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing was being done domestically.


[03-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was left up to individual states, and many Republican governors decided to hold out on any restrictions.


[03-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump then withheld crucial equipment from governors that weren't playing ball with him politically, and made the emergency stokkpile undercut their efforts to buy shit.


[03-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The emergency stokkpile's entire point is to make sure states get equipment right away from a central pool.


[03-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not supposed to be restricted like that, and it is not supposed to undercut purchases.


[03-Jul-20 04:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The timeline then went on to talk about the ramifications of the travel restriction


[03-Jul-20 05:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the UN offered america a shit ton of tests to work with to contain the virus, Trump denied it all and said the US would make their own


[03-Jul-20 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our home made test was extremely faulty


[03-Jul-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after which he proposed to cut funding to the cdc by 15%


[03-Jul-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then went golfing


[03-Jul-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like ya' do when the country you're in charge of is facing down the barrel of a pandemic


[03-Jul-20 05:09 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
So what's this old deal about the Russians paying the Taliban to kill United States soldiers


[03-Jul-20 05:10 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
And then Trump wanting to join Putin in NATO


[03-Jul-20 05:10 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Isn't that treason?


[03-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think it's directly treason.


[03-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should for sure be impeachable.


[03-Jul-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-got-angry-if-warned-about-russia-so-officials-avoided-2020-7

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[03-Jul-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically Russia put bounties on soldiers heads and Trump looked the other way, or wasn't briefed at all because Trump hates not being able to use plausible deniability when it comes to Russia and the horrible shit they do


[03-Jul-20 05:14 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Seriously the nerve of some people you have to debate about the covid19 symptoms....


[03-Jul-20 05:14 AM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
*sigh*


[03-Jul-20 05:22 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Yikes that's definitely a spook, knowing that he knew about this and called it a "hoax" even though it was true


[03-Jul-20 05:23 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Why would he get so angry about this, our soldiers are being fucked over by the Russians and he's too busy trying to be in kahoots with them that he would completely turn his head to them provoking attacks on us.


[03-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's a coward.


[03-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants daddy Putin's money and doesn't want to stand up to him when bullied.


[03-Jul-20 05:25 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
He's a Nationalist


[03-Jul-20 05:25 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
With the mask of "for the people"


[03-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Pontology#1010
He's a self-described nationalist, and that's good. Everyone should be.

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[03-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Most people are nationalists—they believe in self-governance, popular sovereignty, national identity—even if they don't call themselves nationalist.


[03-Jul-20 05:35 AM] That1GuyGAMER18#1349
Putting a nation first is different than putting the people first though.


[03-Jul-20 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
putting the nation before the people is really bad for the people typically


[03-Jul-20 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or so history has proven


[03-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It also ends up bad for the nation.


[03-Jul-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And there's a pretty hefty risk that comes with it that turns each of those ideas into a bias in turn. Too much of that, and you begin refusing concepts from other nations that might improve your own nation, even if the other nation is making no attempt upon your sovereignty, or you turn to xenophobia, or you begin to take that national identity and use it to stamp out your own cultural diversity


[03-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump screws over our national interests out of wanting to further exclusivity and stature while being short-sighted and focusing narrowly on certain qualities.


[03-Jul-20 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just screaming "america number one" does not make it so, regardless of the metric


[03-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to constantly stay on top while not putting in the actual work for things like soft power because you'd look momentarily weak is foolish.


[03-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And constantly rejecting agreements cause of not looking like you just demanded thing and got it diminishes that power too.


[03-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually furthering your nation's interests means you hav to be willing to look bad. A lot.


[03-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
The nationalism variety Trump uses is basically like not doing dirty work because your face might not look pretty.


[03-Jul-20 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that the man's ego was a known issue for his entire life before he took office...the minute he began conflating himself with the state is the moment he abandoned his oath. Which, it should surprise no one, happened practically *before* he even took that oath


[03-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then you wonder, constantly, why things aren't working right as you sit prettily in your dilapidated house.


[03-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, Trump is Rarity.


[03-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
A cowardly whore who can't really get anything done.


[03-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Pony Life* Rarity.


[03-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one who is generous sings about how generous they are.


[03-Jul-20 05:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Honestly i believe people should forget about nation and value human life and dignity first -- none of this is acceptable under a system where nations compete for relevance and perceive any slight towards their reputation as an attack on all who are contained within their territories


[03-Jul-20 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
i.e., Japanese governmental denial of the Nanking Massacre of 1937


[03-Jul-20 05:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2?op=1 old article but it provides some insight into trumps relationship with russia

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A decade-old quote from Donald Trump Jr. resurfaced in a New York Times column over the weekend.
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[03-Jul-20 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nationalism is a too, of the bourgeoisie intent on both furthering its competitive nature and dividing the proletariat among easily handleable groups


[03-Jul-20 05:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway uh


[03-Jul-20 05:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://news.bitcoin.com/gold-industry-83-tons-fake-gold-bars-secure-2-billion-loans-china/

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The gold industry has been shaken after it was discovered that 83 tons of fake gold bars have been used as collateral for loans worth 20 billion yuan from 14 financial institutions to a major gold jewelry manufacturer in Wuhan, China. This amount of gold "would be equivalent t...
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[03-Jul-20 06:13 AM] jlun2#8758
he's going to get executed


[03-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking
> "No one who is generous sings about how generous they are."
Rarity BTFO


[03-Jul-20 06:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Honestly, you know what really fucking pisses me off?


[03-Jul-20 06:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I have to drive to fucking Connecticut now to buy nicotine salts


[03-Jul-20 06:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
During this whole corona thing, Cuomo signed a bill that banned the sale of flavored vape products, which kinda drives sales with these smaller vape stores. The only kind you can buy now is tobacco flavored


[03-Jul-20 06:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
imagine walking into a vape shop, and they only sell tobacco flavored vape, it would not last very long


[03-Jul-20 06:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't know where the hell I'll go when I'm back in utica


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't want to live in a place where no one has ever heard anyone call hamburgers "steamed hams"


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The only real product they will be able to carry is stuff like juul, which is conveniently owned by big tobacco


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Utica is actually a kinda nice town imo


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's absurd to me that you can advertise vapes and alcohol on TV but not tobacco


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but then again I mostly stay at the school


[03-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just allow it all at this point


[03-Jul-20 06:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Juul is pretty fucking conniving. They can make a market out of selling their tobacco and menthol flavored vape pods from gas stations, companies making e liquid need to make different flavors to survive. And it's literally the same companies that make cigarettes selling vapes


[03-Jul-20 06:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think cuomo was paid to ban flavored vapes


[03-Jul-20 06:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
He banned all flavors except tobacco, mint is allowed in premade coil+juice packages. AKA juul


[03-Jul-20 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you can usually get unflavored vape and add menthol


[03-Jul-20 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you shouldn't, because it stings like a bitch, but you could


[03-Jul-20 07:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The issue is, I can't even have unflavored vape shipped to me. New York banned that as well


[03-Jul-20 07:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
So to Connecticut I shall go tomorrow


[03-Jul-20 07:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Because my filter and juice I have in the tank is fucking nasty and I think it's causing me breathing problems


[03-Jul-20 07:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Also I think the last bit of slats I bought wasn't viscous enough, too liquidy


[03-Jul-20 07:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Ruined my filters


[03-Jul-20 07:31 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're having breathing problems maybe you should stop vaping

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[03-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Vape Naysh y'all


[03-Jul-20 07:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[03-Jul-20 07:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is this party thrown by Pinkamena?


[03-Jul-20 07:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:depressed: :twinoose:


[03-Jul-20 07:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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1. OK, I'm calling bs on "news" of "COVID parties"—college students TRYING to get COVID. It has all the failure hallmarks of moral panic, Chomsky's 4th filter of manufactured consent (flak) & confirmation bias. Let me lay out why you should be skeptical. https://t.co/6PDTZzJe...
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[03-Jul-20 07:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Likely fake news


[03-Jul-20 07:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok...


[03-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mr0x20wednesday/status/1278487021401636864

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Locked account I follow just pointed out that the 5 million people about to be evicted will be ineligible for voting because of mismatched addresses in November. Fuck.
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[03-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I say we take the COVID and put it somewhere else


[03-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Like the moon


[03-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Treascair#7785
Re: Covid parties... sadly, not fake. They've had fuckwits across America pulling this shit, treating it like chicken pox. Usually either antivaxxers or willful denials of science. Or both. Had an incident here where I live some... two weeks ago now? Two and a half? Wound up with 14 infected, three dead, and another three in the hospital. And there were kids included in that.


[03-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
I think you're mistaking people going out and having parties for going out and purposefully spreading the virus


[03-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Crow#5457
it's kinda sorta the same thing, but it's not for the purpose of spreading the virus


[03-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Treascair#7785
There was police statements taken when it happened. People literally quoted as having a 'covid party' so... y'know, not a mistake.


[03-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Treascair#7785
I can dig up the local news articles to prove it.


[03-Jul-20 07:58 AM] Treascair#7785
... actually, double checking, it's poor wording from the articles and you are, in fact, correct, Crow. I'll retract my statements.


[03-Jul-20 07:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
unironically anti-vaxxers belong in camps, it's the only way they won't hurt other people


[03-Jul-20 07:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
and their children belong with better parents


[03-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Treascair#7785
To quote the song, :sharpeTune: Karma's gonna come collect your debt~ :sharpeTune:


[03-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Olibird#8782
...I don't see how that makes them anti-vax?


[03-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Olibird#8782
There ISN'T a vaccine yet


[03-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
anti-vaxxers advocate for spreading x disease around to "build immunity"


[03-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Olibird#8782
Hell, as long as the hospitals can handle the patients, what's the problem?


[03-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Crow#5457
when there's a bunch of diseases that leave permanent scars on the immune system and cause them to not function as well later in life


[03-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Olibird#8782
Flatten the curve was never supposed to reduce the total number of people infected


[03-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Olibird#8782
If they're going to catch it anyway eventually, then the only thing they're doing is getting it out of the way now


[03-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Treascair#7785
... you understand Covid doesn't stop at the lungs and permanent damage thereof, right? It gets into other organs, muscle tissue, blood cells...


[03-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Are u sure about that?


[03-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is there any evidence?


[03-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a lot.


[03-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It causes blood clots in the limbs.


[03-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It messes with the digestive tract.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
From what I remember the actual process of it is it *starts* in the lungs but can move to different areas of the body as it progresses, and return.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It can do pretty major organ damage, tho lung damage is the most common.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
In kids, the lung stuff is lessened, but *not* the blood clotting


[03-Jul-20 09:12 AM] Crow#5457
it causes your blood to thicken


[03-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
it can literally re-infect you


[03-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
a lot of people who get it don't develop the antibodies


[03-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Damaged#9999
The freakiest symptom I saw from it was it destroying people's sense of smell. Gone. Only does that in young people, too. Freaky damn virus.


[03-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Damaged#9999
Oh, and taste too.


[03-Jul-20 10:26 AM] wren#0114
is that temporary tho


[03-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Damaged#9999
For some cases it isn't


[03-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Damaged#9999
losing sense of smell is a common symptom, but having it never come back is less common


[03-Jul-20 10:32 AM] wren#0114
:lurk:


[03-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Damaged#9999
We had it mostly under control here—several days in a row of no new infections. Then they lifted restrictions on families visiting each other. Up to 70 new cases a day and rising. :/


[03-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Damaged#9999
I'll just continue to hide indoors I guess


[03-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/Perpetualmaniac/status/1267525244060938240

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MAKE THIS GO VIRAL!!

Hillary Clinton: "Since Russia is clearly backing the Republicans, why don't we ask China to back us."

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[03-Jul-20 11:39 AM] ononim#8141
How old is this, I don't believe she looks this well preserved right now


[03-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
@ononim, from may 1, 2019 apparently


[03-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeu72fWuYk

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Hillary Clinton: 'I'm Living Rent Free Inside Of Donald Trump's Bra...
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton talks with Rachel Maddow about Donald Trump and Republicans' continued obsession with her, repeated calls for re-investigations, and the effectiveness of Republican smear tactics with their base of supporters.
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[03-Jul-20 11:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
botox is one hell of a drug


[03-Jul-20 11:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
giving hillary attention only makes her more powerful


[03-Jul-20 11:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
just ignore the irrelevant rando


[03-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Crow#5457
<https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/hjwthw/oc_countylevel_covid19_case_growth_animation_in/>


[03-Jul-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/wdyblh952g851.gif

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[03-Jul-20 12:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/LWCsKERUF5o

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10 Tampa Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCsKERUF5o
Florida sheriff says he'll deputize lawful gun owners if deputies c...
Clay County Sheriff Darryl Daniels shared a video on Tuesday, stating he will "make special deputies of every lawful gun owner" in the county if his deputies aren't able to handle all the protesters.

In the three-minute video, the northwest Florida sheriff calls out "the main...
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[03-Jul-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
seems like a recipe for disaster


[03-Jul-20 12:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sheriff with giant balls


[03-Jul-20 12:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/p-sN9HzZc6E

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ColdHardTruthNews.
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Racist White Female Pulls Gun On Black Woman
A Karen with a gun. That's even MORE dangerous.
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[03-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/p66AKaL_YWw

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Revealing The Truths
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BLM break into Wells Fargo Bank
BLM mob break into Wells Fargo Bank to get their reparation money for slavery. lol
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[03-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Racist bank doesnt want to share wealth with BLM


[03-Jul-20 12:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/9v-7cVjc01w

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Detroit Police dash cam video of protesters surrounding police vehi...
Dash cam video of protesters blocking and attacking the Detroit police vehicle before it drives off through crowd to get away.
Protesters smashed back window.
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[03-Jul-20 12:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/6A200fl2gBc

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Provo Utah #BLM protestor shoots at car
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[03-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/QME2AHlREL8

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1 fatally shot at Breonna Taylor protest park in Kentucky
LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Authorities were investigating a fatal shooting Saturday night at a park in downtown Louisville, Kentucky, where demonstrators had gathered to protest the death of Breonna Taylor.
Reports of shots fired at Jefferson Square Park came in around 9 p.m., Louisvil...
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[03-Jul-20 02:28 PM] illumnious#7938
Not a surprise to anyone https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/coronavirus-reopening-347465

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America’s told-you-so moment: How we botched the reopening
The resurgence of Covid-19 was preventable, but the country’s rush to end shutdowns triggered disaster.
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[03-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie yes the rioters and looters are bad. I do not support the rioters and looters. These people are a minorty of people and don't want actual change. There are opternustic criminals. The vast majority of blm is infact peaceful protesters.


[03-Jul-20 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess but when cops fuck up ppl scream ACAB ACAB and hate all of the cops


[03-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wonder how many ppl are support BLM


[03-Jul-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might help their reputation if most of the cops that fuck up didnt get quietly reshuffled into the force in a different city while the cops who tried to stop them or turn them in gets fired without pension or sent to an asylum


[03-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie I personally dont say acab beacuse i know that there are alot of good cops out there. But there is also alot of bad cops out there too.


[03-Jul-20 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I've met decent cops, and largely the problem is those decent cops aren't running the show and it;s easy for people to yell ACAB when cops are out there militarized, terrorizing large crowds of non rioters and shooting rubber bullets at random citizens who were just out shopping. It all gets lost in the chaos


[03-Jul-20 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also easy to look at the rioters and go "clearly they're all with BLM." despite at least a few cases were jump started by an out of townee who drove in to start a fire and get people riled up so they could watch a shit show


[03-Jul-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Not all cops are bad, however the ones that are are the ones running the show. Meanwhile, in a protest of this scale both the rioters and the peaceful protestors are important. The looters are assholes but we should really be asking why they feel the need to loot so we can figure out how to best stop it.


[03-Jul-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/505772-supreme-court-blocks-order-that-relaxed-voting-restrictions-in

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Supreme Court blocks order that relaxed voting restrictions in Alabama
The Supreme Court on Thursday shot down a ruling from a lower court that would have eased voting restrictions in Alabama during the coronavirus pandemic.
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[03-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Synfag#9241
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[03-Jul-20 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/07/oregon-state-police-dont-wear-coronavirus-masks-as-they-patronize-corvallis-coffee-shop-despite-governors-order.html

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Oregon State Police don’t wear coronavirus masks while patronizing ...
Three other law enforcement officers entered the business moments later and also refused a request to wear masks, a worker said. He said he felt compelled to fulfill their drink orders because they were in uniform, even though he said he had sent other patrons away earlier for...
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[03-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Synfag#9241
@Smug Trixie 
full video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybbhZbv7UlA

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Full version: White woman pulls gun on a black family.
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[03-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Synfag#9241
the white person will have approx 30k in legal bills
likely lose her job (more $$$ lost)
won't be hireable for many jobs in the future (more $$$ lost)
so a tough lost of $250k in total over the next 10 years


[03-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Synfag#9241
all because she didn't just shut up and take it.


[03-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Synfag#9241
so now, in the court of public opinion, she is in the wrong.


[03-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Synfag#9241
by the way


[03-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Synfag#9241
she's white


[03-Jul-20 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that was confusing to watch


[03-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Synfag#9241
that makes her more in the wrong.


[03-Jul-20 04:11 PM] RYDE#8862
I feel really bad about the artists that were going on a DNP list.


[03-Jul-20 04:13 PM] RYDE#8862
Also, why do we black and white people always keep fighting each other? What would come out of it?


[03-Jul-20 04:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Synfag just don't pull a gun on a black family then


[03-Jul-20 04:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It doesn't sound too hard not to do that


[03-Jul-20 04:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she might have made it out of there without looking like the hostile party if she didn't get the gun. though it's semi hard to tell what lead to the gun because the moment before that is pure jumble cam


[03-Jul-20 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though it looks like the black lady either tried to martyr herself or grab the license plate as the car was backing out and got caught off guard


[03-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag that meme is mostly just reee sjw bad blm bad :twithisshit:


[03-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also no don't pull a gun on a black famaly


[03-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There where kids there right?


[03-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If so no you just don't pull a gun on a black famaly.


[03-Jul-20 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea, they kept yelling something about a 15 year old and i lost track of the plot


[03-Jul-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think she accidentally bumped one of them and didn't realize it and then it escalated into a parking lot ambush


[03-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
She bumped into her?


[03-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah she is the asshole in this sitaution.


[03-Jul-20 04:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure anyone was the good guy in this situation


[03-Jul-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though one of them decided to bring a gun to a camera fight and then shit went nuts


[03-Jul-20 04:28 PM] ononim#8141
Oh hey the chat is talking about not real life significant fandom shit that just hurts I wait till I have some non US news article to post as usual


[03-Jul-20 04:28 PM] ononim#8141
in fact


[03-Jul-20 04:28 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/07/03/2022791/duterte-signs-anti-terrorism-bill

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Duterte signs anti-terrorism bill
(Update 2, 8:02 p.m.) "The people have nothing to fear from this bill; it is only the terrorists and their supporters who should fear it," DILG Secretary Eduardo Año earlier said.
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[03-Jul-20 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, so many dictator wannabes have popped up in these past four years


[03-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I still remeber when Duterte wanted to declare war on Canada beacuse we sent them garbage


[03-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
the best part of that "threat" was the fact that we could have bombed them cus they had no fighter jets


[03-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
immagen declareing war on a nation when you have no fighters


[03-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Synfag#9241
now tell me
do you have any idea what the Filipinos in there think about that Anti-Terror bill?


[03-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
this post made by good airforce gang


[03-Jul-20 04:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, opinions are divided, of course


[03-Jul-20 04:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Moro minority is likely dead set against it


[03-Jul-20 04:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Though the Mindanao conflict isn't likely to be solved anytime soon


[03-Jul-20 04:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, Duterte's claim that this would diminish the size of the communist insurgency there sounds redundant to me -- iirc, communist groups barely control a single island


[03-Jul-20 04:58 PM] byte[]#2610
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[03-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Yuri#4154
Stonks


[03-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro it’s a half pipe


[03-Jul-20 06:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[03-Jul-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jul-20 06:44 PM] wren#0114
gottim


[03-Jul-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[03-Jul-20 07:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I hate when people decide to get an abortion and it instantly aborts every child in a 6 ft radius

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[03-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Marukomuru#8409
wdym i thought that's how abortions worked lmao 😂😂😂


[03-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Yuri#4154
Oh ffs


[03-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Why do they keep misusing that meme?


[03-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
The


[03-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Cat


[03-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Doesn't


[03-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Talk


[03-Jul-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/chaser/status/1278993489674428416?s=20

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𝚃𝚑𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚜𝚎𝚛 (@chaser)
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Obituary: Ghislaine Maxwell (1961-next week) https://t.co/BvfkuUSjgN
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[03-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
#HeDidntKillHimself (yet)


[03-Jul-20 08:48 PM] illumnious#7938
Welcome to hell solly


[03-Jul-20 08:49 PM] jlun2#8758
is he sniffing her hair


[03-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Certainly looks like it, lol


[03-Jul-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she's one of the people who scouted for epstein's "talent"


[03-Jul-20 08:51 PM] illumnious#7938
> is he sniffing her hair
@jlun2  yes


[03-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
"talent"


[03-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
"How is she?"
Epstein: _sniffs_ "Too old"


[03-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Yuri#4154
Oh boy, Solly


[03-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Yuri#4154
This channel is... interesting


[03-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Yuri#4154
We've got quite the range of political ideologies here


[03-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Oh no.


[03-Jul-20 08:57 PM] illumnious#7938
It’s hell


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Yuri#4154
It's not nearly as bad as the site politics thread


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, we got communism, communism 2, communism deluxe...


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Yuri#4154
And Communism but with a funny black triangle in the flag


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Yuri#4154
Aka the superior one


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Yuri#4154
:twiright:


[03-Jul-20 08:58 PM] illumnious#7938
> It's not nearly as bad as the site politics thread
@Yuri  let me guess, a bunch of MAGA2020 isn’t it?


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Yuri#4154
Last I checked it was even worse than that


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Butt do you have a jacuzzi?


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh shit


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Yuri#4154
We have cookies too


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
ugh


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] illumnious#7938
And tea


[03-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Please don't tell me there are trumptards in here.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Not that I remember


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Good.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Yuri#4154
Distributed evenly among the working class, of course


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I can't stand those people.


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Yuri#4154
As it should be


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] illumnious#7938
Neither do I


[03-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Tea and cookies is good.


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Do the (slightly evil) fillies get a (disproportionate) share of the cookies?


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Maybe


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
yeeey


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] illumnious#7938
If they’re being good


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Yuri#4154
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 where's Aaron btw?


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He left


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Evil is a form of good, if you're Cozy Glow :golly:


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Felt it wasn't worth it to stay here


[03-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Yuri#4154
:ts_cry:


[03-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Yuri#4154
Last time I've seen him he got into an argument with Crow


[03-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Yuri#4154
A pretty bad one, from the looks of it


[03-Jul-20 09:02 PM] illumnious#7938
This came out of nowhere https://twitter.com/infantry0300/status/1279124539885203457?s=21

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#BenedictDonald is our #1 traitor and threat to our Nation. https://t.co/N2o6IvtKbs
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[03-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
oh wow


[03-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Is that from The Lincoln Foundation?


[03-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Yuri#4154
I don't really post here often


[03-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Mostly when something significant happens in the UK


[03-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
(smh Republicans are better at tearing Trump a new asshole than Dems.)


[03-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Yuri#4154
Or something involving trans rights, because that involves me


[03-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Yuri#4154
I don't feel like arguing economic theory here, since I'm probably more radical than nearly everyone here, except maybe @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[03-Jul-20 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on what kind of economic theory


[03-Jul-20 09:06 PM] illumnious#7938
> Is that from The Lincoln Foundation?
@Cozy Glow  I think VoteVets


[03-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Yuri#4154
Marx - based or not?


[03-Jul-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> Too old
you joke, but i would love to read a story about a pony's life on that topic after they became "too old" @Cozy Glow


[03-Jul-20 09:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It isn't actually too hard to learn once you accept that class interests exist


[03-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Yuri#4154
I know you're probably the most based (as them kids call it nowadays) person in this channel, Badger


[03-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
@jlun2 Sounds like an intriguing subject. Not sure if I'm up to writing it, though. I tend not to do serious/sad/dark fics.


[03-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Now damn, this is how you do an anti-trump ad.
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1278430418161872909

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American soldiers’ lives are in danger and Trump has done nothing to stop it.

Add ‘America First’ to the laundry list of scams Trump has sold in his life. It’s clearly Trump first, Russia second, and America last. https://t.co/sqiRyqtJBE
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[03-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Yuri#4154
In other news


[03-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Yuri#4154
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/29/keir-starmer-trans-rights-gender-recognition-act-bbc-radio-4-today-labour-party/

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Labour leader Keir Starmer pleads with people to ‘stop chucking bri...
Labour leader Keir Starmer has commented on the debate over trans rights in the UK, saying that "everybody [has] to stop chucking bricks at each other".
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[03-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Yuri#4154
Starmer is still yet to stop fencesitting on this


[03-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
oh wat


[03-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I thought Florida, but it's  UK site.


[03-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Yuri#4154
Wake me up when he forms an actual, helpful opinion intend of trying to please bOtH sIdEs


[03-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Olibird#8782
>American soldiers’ lives are in danger and Trump has done nothing to stop it.
:thonk:


[03-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Olibird#8782
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1278534620712185858

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JUST IN: House committee votes to put roadblocks on President Trump’s ability to withdraw forces from Afghanistan https://t.co/adaswmwhZr
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[03-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Olibird#8782
:hyperthink:


[03-Jul-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Yuri#4154
:wheeze:


[03-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
>House committee votes to put roadblocks on President Trump’s ability to withdraw forces from Afghanistan


[03-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
What the fuck democrats


[03-Jul-20 09:27 PM] illumnious#7938

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[03-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
> The House Armed Services Committee voted Wednesday to put roadblocks on President Trump’s ability to withdraw from Afghanistan, including requiring an assessment on whether any country has offered incentives for the Taliban to attack U.S. and coalition troops.


[03-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
So... holding U.S. troops' lives hostage to find out if they are in danger


[03-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
What. The. Fuck.


[03-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
iirc last time Trump pulled forces it led to a pretty bad shitstorm.


[03-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
So I can understand their reaction.


[03-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
On the one hand, the troops are in dangers, yes.
On the other, they're armed troops.
On the third hand, they're armed troops fighting alongside american allies who would be put in danger if the US pulled out unexpectedly.


[03-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Getting into a war is easy. Getting out again is hella difficult.


[03-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Pontology#1010
They should withdraw too. No more perpetual wars.


[03-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Pontology#1010

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[03-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Hah


[03-Jul-20 09:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Hue


[03-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
But tHe OiL


[03-Jul-20 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
Wasn first military conflict us had pist independence was some naval war with berber corsairs in north africa


[03-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I have no clue. The US has had so many.


[03-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Pontology#1010
>The cause of the U.S. participation was pirates from the Barbary States seizing American merchant ships and holding the crews for ransom, demanding the U.S. pay tribute to the Barbary rulers.


[03-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Pontology#1010
If a country attacks yours, that's grounds for war. Pre-emptive strikes etc are not.


[03-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
What if a country launches a "pre-emptive strike" on the US? :ponythinking:


[03-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Is that not also an attack?


[03-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Pontology#1010
Of course it is. You knew what I meant.


[03-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Pontology#1010
I'll assume you were being humorous.


[03-Jul-20 10:28 PM] wren#0114
the middle east drilling their own oil is a strike against US assets


[03-Jul-20 10:32 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
> >American soldiers’ lives are in danger and Trump has done nothing to stop it.
> :thonk:
@Olibird  because the asshole wants to put them in Saudi Arabia instead


[03-Jul-20 10:34 PM] Olibird#8782
prove it


[03-Jul-20 10:35 PM] Olibird#8782
you're gonna ping me with a claim like that, back that shit up


[03-Jul-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/trump-administration-syria-screw-the-kurds-save-the-oil

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Trump Administration: Screw the Kurds, Save the Oil
After Trump announced that U.S. troops in Syria would be sent home or to “other places,” the military will reportedly leave hundreds behind to secure oil fields.
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[03-Jul-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.france24.com/en/20191026-after-abandoning-kurds-us-to-send-troops-to-syria-oil-fields

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After abandoning Kurds, US to send troops to Syria oil fields
The United States will send armored vehicles and combat troops into eastern Syria to keep oil fields from potentially falling into the hands of Islamic State militants, U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Es…
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[03-Jul-20 10:35 PM] Olibird#8782
That says nothing about going to war with Saudi Arabia


[03-Jul-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants to send troops to saudi arabia, not go to war with it


[03-Jul-20 10:37 PM] Olibird#8782
everything you're linking says Syria, not Saudi Arabia


[03-Jul-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
woops, my bad


[03-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Olibird#8782
Yea, Syria I can understand. Part of why Trump was elected was to put down ISIS


[03-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Olibird#8782
They operating in Syria


[03-Jul-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah instead he abandoned our allies in fighting isis and chose to guard an oil well instead


[03-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Olibird#8782
>They're fighting ISIS
>Article says they were moved to defend a strategic resource from ISIS


[03-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Olibird#8782
I'm sorry, what?


[03-Jul-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guarding a resource from isis is still fighting isis, it;s just not fighting thme directly


[03-Jul-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21065432/trump-laura-ingraham-interview-saudi-arabia-troops Trump claimed he sold saudi arabia troops for $1billion USD while the pentagon denies such a claim however troops were sent to saudi arabia to guard it from iran

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Trump: Saudi Arabia paid the US $1 billion for more troops. Pentago...
Trump seemingly announced a major deal during his latest Fox News interview, but officials are walking it back.
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[03-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Olibird#8782
>guarding a resource from isis is still fighting isis, it;s just not fighting thme directly

...Yes, that's how war works


[03-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Olibird#8782
Starving an enemy and denying them resources is just as, if not more, effective than killing them directly


[03-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Olibird#8782
Something like oil would allow them to buy more guns, more ammo, more vehicles, it'll allow them to start publishing magazines with ads selling slaves again


[03-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Olibird#8782
>the pentagon denies such a claim however troops were sent to saudi arabia to guard it from iran

So...Trump says dumb thing, while nothing concrete changes


[03-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Olibird#8782
that's his MO


[03-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Olibird#8782
That's what he's doing the entire time during the BLM riots


[03-Jul-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then Trump abandoned the kurds to let turkey mow them down for a new Trump tower


[03-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Olibird#8782
How are they abandoned, exactly?


[03-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Olibird#8782
We're still fighting the same enemy they are


[03-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Olibird#8782
is it because we aren't holding their hand and doing everything for them?


[03-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Olibird#8782
Aren't they adults? Aren't they trying to be their own nation?


[03-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Olibird#8782
Or are they inferior brown people who aren't capable of doing anything by themselves?


[03-Jul-20 10:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we were protecting them, and then trump called our troops away from them to let turkey have at them


[03-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Olibird#8782
We've been protecting them for decades by that point


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Olibird#8782
At what point are they supposed to stand on their own?


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump let them get sandwiched between isis and turkey.


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, thye were valuable allies


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a fucking warzone


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Olibird#8782
And they still are. Again, we didn't stop fighting ISIS


[03-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Olibird#8782
We're still doing that


[03-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Olibird#8782
We're just fighting them in a different spot


[03-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Olibird#8782
I have a question for you


[03-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Olibird#8782
Those articles about abandoning the Kurds were from October


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Olibird#8782
So...what happened in the past 8 months?


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Olibird#8782
Seriously, I have no idea what happened to the Kurds in that time


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Olibird#8782
Have they been steamrolled by Turkey and ISIS?


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Turkey moved in let isis prisoners go.


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Olibird#8782
Is Kurdistan dead?


[03-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Olibird#8782
Have the Kurds lost the war?


[03-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Olibird#8782
Also, now that I'm thinking about it


[03-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Olibird#8782
Turkey is part of NATO


[03-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Olibird#8782
Did the Kurds attack Turkey?


[03-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Olibird#8782
If they did, the US is obligated by the NATO treaties to slaughter the Kurds


[03-Jul-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The weird part is that you assume Trump would hold to NATO's agreement considering he;s abandoned every other treaty and agreement we had with almost literally everyone in the name of individual nationalism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/turkey-launches-major-attack-on-kurdish-militants-in-iraq apparently this is the latest of the kurdish/turkey news aside from the northern and southern kurds joining forces but that article is paywalled

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Turkey launches major attack on Kurdish militants in Iraq
Ground and air operation targets 150 suspected PKK positions, Ankara says
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[03-Jul-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/e20c4910-d66b-480f-a89b-986bfaf145dc here's a non paywall story about their unity agreement


[03-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/kamala-harris-wikipedia/

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Kamala Harris's Wikipedia Page Is Being Edited
In recent presidential cycles, the velocity of edits made to a Wikipedia page have correlated with the choice of vice presidential running mate.
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[03-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Olibird#8782
> abandoned every other treaty and agreement we had with almost literally everyone
Hoo boy. He leaves one, so you think he left them all?


[03-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Olibird#8782
that's a hell of a hyperbolic statement


[03-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Olibird#8782
that article's interesting though, lemme read it


[03-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Olibird#8782
thanks m6


[03-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Olibird#8782
>Despite the unprecedented scale and scope of the Turkish operations inside Iraqi territory, no civilian or combatant casualties have yet been reported.
Legit impressive


[03-Jul-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Smug Trixie <https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tqzrLTC_zswJ:https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/01/how-twitter-harms-left/605098/+&cd=18&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca>


[03-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yup thats wall of text


[03-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Explain in two words pls


[03-Jul-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
twitter bad if you're mod avoid at all cost


[04-Jul-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505814-california-bill-would-force-companies-like-amazon-to-guarantee-restroom

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California bill would force companies like Amazon to guarantee rest...
A California bill that would require companies like Amazon to guarantee restroom breaks is moving through the state’s legislature.
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[04-Jul-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we actually need fucking legislative bills tellign companies to let their employees use the fucking restroom


[04-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Xenxc#4012
based and pisspilled


[04-Jul-20 12:51 AM] JC Denton#7076
peepee


[04-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Pepe-pony#9884
peepee poopoo


[04-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Pepe-pony#9884
Amazon diaper when ?


[04-Jul-20 12:52 AM] JC Denton#7076

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[04-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Pepe-pony#9884
Where's my gay furry piss incest rape scat vore art at ?


[04-Jul-20 12:53 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[04-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[04-Jul-20 12:54 AM] JC Denton#7076
>dershowitz


[04-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah yes, the guy who went to Epstein's island and got back massages from underage girls but insisted he kept his underwear on


[04-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/05/online-pharmacy-ro-tests-5-per-month-prescription-program.html

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Online pharmacy Ro is testing a program that sends you generic pres...
Ro is piloting a service for its users to get 500 generic medications, including Metformin, for $5 per medication per month. It's also offering all-inclusive shipping, according to a document viewed by CNBC.
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[04-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> A California bill that would require companies like Amazon to guarantee restroom breaks is moving through the state’s legislature.


[04-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
They have to *legislate* this?


[04-Jul-20 12:58 AM] wren#0114

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[04-Jul-20 12:58 AM] JC Denton#7076
get back to your cagie, wagie


[04-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Pepe-pony#9884
wagie stuck in cagie


[04-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
oh no Amazabros we got too cocky


[04-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
> The country is at a critical crossroads. Science and reason are in a battle to be heard and to try to drive public policy in the middle of a pandemic. At the same time, it is in the midst of a historic reckoning with centuries of racial injustice – even as its Leaders stoke division along racial lines. Meanwhile the pandemic has exposed the painful inequities underlying their lives. The coming months will determine whether they might finally be addressed.


[04-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the guardian made a dramatic statement that sounds like a blurb for a video game


[04-Jul-20 01:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
are you a bad enough dude to save the country?


[04-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/TwitterEng/status/1278733305190342656

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We’re starting with a set of words we want to move away from using in favor of more inclusive language, such as:
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[04-Jul-20 01:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I definitely don't think I want Twitter talking at me like colonel sanders


[04-Jul-20 01:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"Folks, y'all get yer engineer hours in this week"


[04-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@JC Denton thats some bad meme right there. R/the donald was a toxic wasteland years ago. Echo chambers are a cancer on all democracy


[04-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
he's banned


[04-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:wheeze:


[04-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oof


[04-Jul-20 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you really gotta wonder how many T_D diehards are even self aware enough to realize the entire community name is based around an organized crime joke


[04-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
T_D?


[04-Jul-20 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, I'm sure once they are aware they'll wear it like a badge of pride, but I'd bet there are some who legitimately don't get the pun


[04-Jul-20 01:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
reddit is terrible anyway


[04-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The donald


[04-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
oh


[04-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I remember when reddit used to be alright, and then they gradually got more mainstream and a lot of bad press.


[04-Jul-20 01:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
downboat 😠


[04-Jul-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember: no shareholders, no externally hosted ads, no third-party data


[04-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/_kairy_draws_/status/1278989435313573888

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This is disgusting. 
They're literally making George Floyd merch and anti-stress dolls.
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[04-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Xenxc#4012
:evilkek:


[04-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Crow#5457
"who" is making george floyd merch and anti-stress dolls?


[04-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Xenxc#4012
the libright obviously


[04-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Whew that's


[04-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Whew


[04-Jul-20 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and of course it's the version with the head inflated


[04-Jul-20 01:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, even if this is genuine, they *do* realize it makes him look like a racist caricature, right


[04-Jul-20 01:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's just companies trying to make a quick buck. They don't care about it besides the money.


[04-Jul-20 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but why is the bottom of his face scaled twice as big as his forehead?


[04-Jul-20 01:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
because they honestly don't care if it is or not.


[04-Jul-20 01:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It seems extremely unlikely that they'd just grab an obviously doctored picture of the guy, and even less likely that it was just the first result. Someone intentionally edited him to look like this, even if it wasn't the print shop making decorative throw pillows with his face in front of the flag (suspiciously like the trump flag, coincidentally)


[04-Jul-20 02:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like how even if Trump's campaign merch nabbed a stock image of an eagle that's clearly a nazi eagle, someone made that and made it available


[04-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Jul-20 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you heard about this?

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[04-Jul-20 02:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no


[04-Jul-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this is for sale on trump's official campaign website. Or at least, it was as of yesterday


[04-Jul-20 02:03 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I wouldn't know.


[04-Jul-20 02:05 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah don't really care about trump pr biden. Way I see it we're just fucked.


[04-Jul-20 02:05 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:nut:


[04-Jul-20 02:06 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm wasting my vote on Jo (not Joe.)


[04-Jul-20 02:06 AM] Xenxc#4012
always vote for jeb


[04-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Xenxc#4012

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[04-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
is this a jojo reference @HerdAnon


[04-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:caddy:


[04-Jul-20 02:14 AM] HerdAnon#6614
No


[04-Jul-20 02:14 AM] HerdAnon#6614
There's actually a chick running named Jo. Libertarian


[04-Jul-20 02:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:chickun:


[04-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@WingbeatPony honestly not suprised at this point


[04-Jul-20 02:30 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html

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Official U.S. coronavirus death toll is 'a substantial undercount' ...
The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were nearly 19% higher than what would normally be expected, the study said.
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[04-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yet trump thinks this is all just going to go away


[04-Jul-20 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the man hasn't been sufficiently proven to have object permanence


[04-Jul-20 02:57 AM] HerdAnon#6614
@Gordon Freeman  not just trump. South Carolina is refusing to go into lockdown again despite becoming a hotspot.


[04-Jul-20 02:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Im fucking tired of this corona shit


[04-Jul-20 03:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
My favorite bar has been closed for months


[04-Jul-20 03:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it the National Day of America today?


[04-Jul-20 03:03 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
tomorrow


[04-Jul-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
Look at the size of this bait https://i.redd.it/em9prkvd3n851.jpg

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[04-Jul-20 03:05 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
reddit is trash


[04-Jul-20 03:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[04-Jul-20 03:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't understand this at all


[04-Jul-20 03:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Turning point propaganda. not much to understand.


[04-Jul-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Imagine ordering a truckload of protect and serve and 40% is spoiled by domestic violence https://i.redd.it/kou2fiexin851.jpg

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[04-Jul-20 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
pisswater

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[04-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@byte[] god thats some utter trash from pu. A massive generation of the entre left spectrum. No one supports the looting and rioting and people on the left do not take the click bate trash that says paw patrol is offisive. Turning point usa is like you said just baiting people


[04-Jul-20 03:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
boi you just got baited


[04-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:dab:


[04-Jul-20 03:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I will never get baited if I'm too stupid to see the bait

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[04-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@WingbeatPony not really im just calling out how stupid turning point is for thinking like this


[04-Jul-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's what they want you to do. That's literally the point


[04-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But in doing so don't i expose there shitty logic for what it is?


[04-Jul-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/505829-protesters-block-highway-as-trump-makes-his-way-to-mount-rushmore

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Protesters block highway as Trump makes his way to Mount Rushmore
Protesters were seen on Friday blocking a highway in South Dakota ahead of President Trump’s appearance at Mount Rushmore for a July 4 celebration.
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[04-Jul-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/505827-white-house-looks-to-make-we-need-to-live-with-it-the-new-tone-on

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White House looks to make 'we need to live with it' the new tone on...
Trump administration officials say the White House plans to adopt a new message on the novel coronavirus pandemic in the coming weeks, with the overall tone summing up as "we need to live with it," according to a report by NBC News.
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[04-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/PauleyTeeks/status/1276270535115190273

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Happening right now in South Dakota.

#MountRushmore #TrumpVirus https://t.co/vUWxrKtgn9
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[04-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
lmao


[04-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
that's high effort


[04-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
literally


[04-Jul-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just the way this is shot looks fake for whatever reason


[04-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
oh rightm you are correct


[04-Jul-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, your brain isn't built to be like "ah yes, that's what a mount rushmore-sized banner would look like in the wind"


[04-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
now it looks like a deepfake vid


[04-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
when i look closer


[04-Jul-20 03:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
in fact, it doesn't even look like a cloth simulation. It's literally a 2D image that's being warped


[04-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
you can see the people holding the banner


[04-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
maybe if there is a better quality longer video


[04-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
those people are tiny, quality is shit, they do not move


[04-Jul-20 03:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, this is the sort of thing I'd expect to see a ton of other footage of eventually. And really all I have to go on is what the giant flags look like at football games - but they're held horizontally, not draped off the edge of a cliff


[04-Jul-20 03:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, this isn't at all the scale I thought mount rushmore was, but then again I've only got movies to go off of as my point of reference for that. I wasn't even aware there was an observation deck up there


[04-Jul-20 04:00 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/PauleyTeeks/status/1276270535115190273
@Crow WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE how the fuck that's going to work nigga?

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Happening right now in South Dakota.

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[04-Jul-20 04:00 AM] SkreeBot#9520
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[04-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, turns out it's an edit of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9_xj77rcQ

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Greenpeace USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9_xj77rcQ
Obama on Mt Rushmore? Greenpeace Banner Calls for Global Warming Le...
Greenpeace climbers hung a banner on Mount Rushmore challenging President Obama to show real leadership on global warming. The banner, measuring sixty-five feet high by thirty-five feet wide, features an unfinished portrait of Obama with the message, "America honors leaders no...
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[04-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
so the banner is fake


[04-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[04-Jul-20 04:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
see that looks way more like something moving at that scale


[04-Jul-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
LMFAO


[04-Jul-20 04:02 AM] illumnious#7938
WTF


[04-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Hmoorkin i mean maybe? I dont really understand the question. I dont go looking for nazi shit on db so i dont know


[04-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Well some people do want to see it


[04-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
And they find it


[04-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
And complain about it


[04-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Maybe there just useing the everything filter for porn and got tired of seeing nazi shit when they want to nut


[04-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Idk


[04-Jul-20 04:19 AM] jlun2#8758
make a "everything2" filter with no politics


[04-Jul-20 04:20 AM] jlun2#8758
:twiright:


[04-Jul-20 04:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
> got tired of seeing nazi shit
filter it


[04-Jul-20 04:32 AM] illumnious#7938
yes please


[04-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@jlun2 yeah thats what they should do on that sanairo


[04-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Xenxc#4012
>not wanting to see aryanne porn
what are you, gay?


[04-Jul-20 04:42 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, I don't have it filtered. But if someone doesn't want to see it, filter it.


[04-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
> We need more extreme fetish porn so people have motivation to create their own filters instead of using "everything"


[04-Jul-20 04:50 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trump_detester/status/1279243034442465280?s=21

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BREAKING: Trump Jr.’s girlfriend Kim Guilfoyle Tests positive for COVID-19.
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[04-Jul-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Literally zero leftists care about paw patrol or some random show old shitty comedy show

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[04-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Can we just end Big Mouth


[04-Jul-20 04:54 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-coronavirus-positive-donald-trump-jr-covid-19-a9601116.html

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[04-Jul-20 04:54 AM] illumnious#7938
Woo


[04-Jul-20 04:55 AM] illumnious#7938
WHO’S NEXT


[04-Jul-20 04:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Trump please.


[04-Jul-20 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
fingers crossed


[04-Jul-20 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
Mike Pence as well


[04-Jul-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@dissociativity that pic yes. tell any internet activist you know "remember to vote IRL"


[04-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Olibird#8782

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[04-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Olibird#8782
:thunk:


[04-Jul-20 06:30 AM] illumnious#7938
fuck


[04-Jul-20 06:30 AM] illumnious#7938
okay fuck you America


[04-Jul-20 06:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇺🇸 :bigbrain:


[04-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
there's nothing mutually exclusive about both of those


[04-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
it says that protests are still allowed, but you'd be safer off avoiding them


[04-Jul-20 06:38 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"You can behave like normal but we suggest you don't" basically.


[04-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protests aren't parties. They're gatherings, but you can keep social distancing at them usually.


[04-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Parties and similar events where you're expected to interact closely are the worst thing you can do)


[04-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminds me of why people get mad restaurants are allowed to be open but bars are not


[04-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's almost like when the people that go to it don't social distance or comply with other things to lessen spread they get treated differently.


[04-Jul-20 06:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine trying to keep your distance from a bunch of drunk covidiots.


[04-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Jul-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue fish onahole

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[04-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So uh


[04-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Did you know that Mexico is being controlled by the church


[04-Jul-20 07:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Church has a bad habit of doing that.


[04-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Protests are gatherings, like gathering in a field to watch July 4 fireworks


[04-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Pontology#1010
You can't condone one while shunning the other


[04-Jul-20 07:07 AM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
> When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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> [...]
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> We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

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[04-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Happy Independence Day 🇺🇸


[04-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”


[04-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656

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[04-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Biggest dumb


[04-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Precursor to globalist international socialism in which there are no nations, no distinct cultures, no diversity


[04-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I am proud to be American for its unique liberties, for setting the template for division of government (executive, legislative, judicial branches)


[04-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
For its culture, for its people, for its history of ever increasing justice thanks in large part to the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly we enjoy


[04-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Pontology#1010
A people that believes in nothing is a people that will fall for anything. I believe in freedom, justice, and liberty for all.


[04-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Pontology#1010
And if you think I'm dumb for being proud to believe in that which my nation represents, you can screw off.


[04-Jul-20 07:14 AM] wren#0114
@Honahue @Pontology checkmate

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[04-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Honahue#0656
"culture"

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[04-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Hamburgers are unironically a distinct and original aspect of American culture.

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[04-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Pontology#1010
If you just want to hate America, 🖕


[04-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Pontology#1010
A more serious aspect of American culture is our unique gun culture.

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[04-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
There are more civilian-owned guns than people in this country.

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[04-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Another unique aspect of American culture is our absolute freedom of speech as regards ideological expression—moreso than any other place on earth.

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[04-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
No "hate speech" laws, it's ok to burn our flag

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[04-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Pontology#1010
In nearly every European nation, it is illegal to burn the country's flag. Ironically, in some, you also can't burn the American flag. But you can here.


[04-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Pontology#1010
That's how seriously we take free speech.


[04-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Pontology#1010
I am proud of this **because it is something to be proud of**


[04-Jul-20 07:19 AM] wren#0114
that is the kind of town I really like because it indicates access to interstates/highways, while being almost rural itself, and you can drive like 5 minutes in any direction and it's completely rural


[04-Jul-20 07:24 AM] wren#0114
tbh car culture has had a huge impact on america


[04-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Honahue#0656
kinda shitty effect

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[04-Jul-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114

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[04-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
cute bait pony


[04-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
I want to take her bait


[04-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roads and parking lots take up ridiculous amounts of space.


[04-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Car culture makes it easy to get between places but it also destroys space/resource efficiency.


[04-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
suburbs and parking minumums also shift an economic burden from the burbs to the people living in a city parking lots are economically dead


[04-Jul-20 07:39 AM] wren#0114
the tradeoff is larger city sprawl without massive public transit systems to shuttle people


[04-Jul-20 07:40 AM] wren#0114
less dense but more area


[04-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The death of brick and mortar means tons of parking lots we have to deal with


[04-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand brick and mortar


[04-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm also curious what exactly people want in place of things like the pic above


[04-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What if everything were exactly the same but locally owned businesses instead? Is that it?


[04-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lots of different coops competing locally? Might be pretty nice tbh.


[04-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Would be nice but no market in area like that


[04-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, these small rural towns get most of their business from people driving through


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Pontology#1010
And such people will prefer to eat at a type of place they know (brand name)


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Pontology#1010
generally


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That and well


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A co-op might charge $9 for a loaf of bread


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because labor and ingredients


[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] wren#0114
https://www.britannica.com/place/United-States/Individual-and-collective-character-of-cities

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United States - United States - Individual and collective character of cities: American cities, more so than the small-town or agrarian landscape, tend to be the product of a particular period rather than of location. The relatively venerable centres of the Eastern Seaboard—Bo...
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[04-Jul-20 07:46 AM] wren#0114
fascinating topic


[04-Jul-20 07:47 AM] wren#0114
> As a group, U.S. cities differ from cities in other countries in both type and degree. The national political structure, the social inclinations of the people, and the strong outward surge of urban development have led to the political fragmentation of metropolises that socially and economically are relatively cohesive units. The fact that a single metropolitan area may sprawl across numerous incorporated towns and cities, several townships, and two or more counties and states has a major impact upon both its appearance and the way it functions. Not the least of these effects is a dearth of overall physical and social planning (or its ineffectuality when attempted), and the rather chaotic, inharmonious appearance of both inner-city and peripheral zones painfully reflects the absence of any effective collective action concerning such matters.


[04-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the rural/urban divide that matters isn't Chicago and rural Ohio


[04-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's Naperville and Akron


[04-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC there's a direct correlation between how far you are from an international airport and how you vote


[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Absence of collective action"


[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Lots of black people are moving in, let's leave"


[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] wren#0114
b8


[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was pretty collective idk


[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] wren#0114

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[04-Jul-20 07:50 AM] wren#0114
:lul:


[04-Jul-20 07:52 AM] wren#0114
is this how cyberpunk starts

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[04-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, I can't take "white flight" seriously when white people moving in is _also_ racist, called "gentrification"


[04-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
White people are racist whether they're coming or going.


[04-Jul-20 07:53 AM] wren#0114
I wonder what the city development of brazil is like compared to the us


[04-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gentrification is taking a store that has been a staple and supporting the community and replacing it with one that sells the same thing at five times the price


[04-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has Brazil even had a competent government in the last century?


[04-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Was the military dictatorship competent?


[04-Jul-20 07:55 AM] wren#0114
I don't know much about brazil


[04-Jul-20 07:56 AM] wren#0114
what is interesting to me is how their urban centers are primarily coastal, but they have to go wayyy inland for the good farmland


[04-Jul-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dictatorships are just kleptocracies so no


[04-Jul-20 08:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who is Donald Trump Jr?


[04-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
donald trump's son


[04-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Jr.

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[04-Jul-20 08:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
He's name is "Donald Trump" as well?


[04-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Pontology#1010
The president beginning in 2024


[04-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
technically, donald trump would be "Donald John Trump Senior"


[04-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not rare for the eldest son to have his father's name and be a junior. After that, it's "Henry Smith the Third".


[04-Jul-20 08:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ok...


[04-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
and if trump jr had a son and also named him donald trump, he would become "Donald John Trump III"


[04-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
which would be pronounced "Donald John Trump the Third"


[04-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah. It's an old naming tradition and kind of dying out I think.


[04-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Pontology#1010
That probably emerged from keeping track of royal bloodlines.


[04-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Crow#5457
trump's a monarchist's wet dream, so it's not surprising he shows some of the old monarchist tendencies


[04-Jul-20 08:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I heard that western girls will change their family name to his husband's


[04-Jul-20 08:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So will the name on the ID card change as well?


[04-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah that's normal


[04-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
here


[04-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
hyphenating is becoming popular too but mostly with Latinos


[04-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
I hate my hyphenated last name.


[04-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Don't do it.


[04-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a royal pain.


[04-Jul-20 08:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Hyphenating?


[04-Jul-20 08:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
What is this


[04-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
if a Miller married a Smith they'd become Miller-Smith


[04-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Pontology#1010
d o n ' t  d o  i t


[04-Jul-20 08:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[04-Jul-20 08:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like what Hong Kong people do


[04-Jul-20 08:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Lin-Zheng Yue'e


[04-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Pontology#1010
If it works naturally in the Chinese language, then well enough.


[04-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Problem is, it's unnatural in English and a pain.


[04-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Pontology#1010
There are still computer systems that don't accept hyphens


[04-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Pontology#1010
So I have to misspell my last name


[04-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Pontology#1010
And also, people sometimes miscategorize, thinking that the first part is my middle name


[04-Jul-20 08:39 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's called "double surnames" we here, some mainland Chinese have it as well, just take both their parents' surname to show the  gender equality


[04-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maiden_and_married_names#Asian_countries

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[04-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that iran is a western asian country


[04-Jul-20 08:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In the future if I have a boy, I give him my surname; if a girl, give her my wife's


[04-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Pontology#1010
I love how conservative Japan is


[04-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Pontology#1010
@AlchemistLiang makes sense. The way China does it is nice.


[04-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Where it's either-or.


[04-Jul-20 08:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's a new trend in the big cities we here


[04-Jul-20 08:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
While people in rural places still use only father's surname, as the traditional way


[04-Jul-20 09:17 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My grandma said the pushing down statues movement is like the cultural revolution in 60's China

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[04-Jul-20 09:18 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
And now Trump has really used the term "cultural revolution"


[04-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Reginald#0534
your grandma is right


[04-Jul-20 09:32 AM] Reginald#0534
cultural revolution is the worst thing that can happen tbh


[04-Jul-20 09:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They push down Confucius's statues during the cultural revolution


[04-Jul-20 09:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In the name of "destroying the inequality and tyranny of feudalism"


[04-Jul-20 09:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Many rare historical relics were damaged or destroyed during that time


[04-Jul-20 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Jul-20 09:56 AM] wren#0114
cloaca


[04-Jul-20 09:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
_I'm a statues cleaner you fuck! _


[04-Jul-20 10:12 AM] zylgchs#4073
@AlchemistLiang Yeah, the resemblence between events nowadays and the cultural revolution is incredible


[04-Jul-20 10:13 AM] zylgchs#4073
And quite horrifiying


[04-Jul-20 10:16 AM] zylgchs#4073
People would do anything in name of their ideology, regardless of actual consequences


[04-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not seeing how confucius is in any way equivalent to literal slave traders, obviously some of the statues being knocked down are of people who had nothing to do with slavery or colonialism (or even opposed them) because US history classes in K-12 schools (even private schools) is abysmal


[04-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
even everyone having access to pocket computers with internet access don't seem to realize how easy it is to just look everything up when they have a question about something


[04-Jul-20 10:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
With google assistant you don't even need to ask or search. switch to camera and google will tell you everything you need to know about a monument or statue.
Not sure about siri.


[04-Jul-20 10:30 AM] zylgchs#4073
Of couse, "oppose slavery" is a much more valid motication than "support Maoism". But in both cases they are merely used as a slogan or a source for moral comfort. It's the actions that mattered


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[04-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Reginald#0534
I was asked what a tik tok is at work


[04-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Reginald#0534
I told it's a pedophile mekka and medina to a bunch of 60 y.o. women


[04-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Reginald#0534
and left back to work


[04-Jul-20 10:56 AM] Olibird#8782
>Of couse, "oppose slavery" is a much more valid motication than "support Maoism"

Why? Is it because the first one agrees with you?


[04-Jul-20 10:56 AM] Olibird#8782
Is it because you know nothing about pre-Maoist China?


[04-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
warning: car attack on protesters https://twitter.com/LarrySubramania/status/1279336600330067968

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#seattleprotests Please pray for the victims of this cowardly and senseless attack. They were peaceful protesters. This is terrible. https://t.co/wMpAuna50Z
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[04-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[04-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Reginald#0534
Are these 'peaceful'?


[04-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Reginald#0534
They blocked a road


[04-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Reginald#0534
not peaceful


[04-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Crow#5457
that is not how peaceful is defined, but ok


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Reginald#0534
why can't they protest in front of a court of law


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Reginald#0534
or somewhere


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah inconvienencing is not aggression


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Reginald#0534
why must they stay on the road?


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Honahue#0656
also that road was empty


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Reginald#0534
I pity all of these people


[04-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Reginald#0534
it didn't have to happen


[04-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
that specific car apparently bypassed a barricade


[04-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
there was literally no need for him to go speeding like that either


[04-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Reginald#0534
Well, he fucked up.


[04-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Reginald#0534
But punishing him only is against logic.


[04-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Reginald#0534
Logically would be to punish all those people, too.


[04-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Honahue#0656
wat?


[04-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Honahue#0656
the protesters were behind a barricade


[04-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Honahue#0656
why would they be at fault if someone bypassed a barricade


[04-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Reginald#0534
They should be at fault or making this barricade.


[04-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Reginald#0534
UIt's generally speaking, illegal, probably.


[04-Jul-20 11:22 AM] byte[]#2610
did you forget the US first amendment or something


[04-Jul-20 11:23 AM] byte[]#2610
which guarantees a right to peaceful assembly


[04-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
I assume they mean a concrete barricate. Like, the kind that says "don't drive here" and that might have pedestrian and caution signs up.


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
They're exercising their right to be there, and they put up necessary warning to ensure people don't accidentally drive through.


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Reginald#0534
did you forget that the first amendment guarantees a right to peaceful and lawfully assembly?


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
The driver who ignored those warnings and put people in danger as a result is definitely at fault.


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Reginald#0534
those people could take the driver as a hostage


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
Amndt. 1


[04-Jul-20 11:25 AM] byte[]#2610
> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Honahue#0656
protest don't mean shit if people can ignore them


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Reginald#0534
It's anti-congress, it's not anti-law


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
You can set up a protest in the middle of a superhighway if you want


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Honahue#0656
inconviences isn't violence


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
It's not illegal


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Reginald#0534
it;s illegal to take people hostage


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Reginald#0534
What could the driver do? Stop? And beg for them to move?


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] byte[]#2610
you're either retarded or trolling


[04-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Honahue#0656
stop making up shit


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Honahue#0656
they didn't take the driver hostage


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
Roads are for cars.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
Fap, you're basing your argument on a hypothetical.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
MAybe.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
But what was the driver supposed to do?


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
Even I can tell you're losing this argument, Fap


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Honahue#0656
raods existed before cars


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
I condemn what he did.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
I disagree with what he did.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
I disagree with the protestors, too.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
They should get the fuck out of the way.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
The driver was supposed to not drive through there. Take a different route.


[04-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Reginald#0534
Wghy?


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
Because what?


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
Because they say so?


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
Fuck them


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
it's a fucking road


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
Your hypocrisy is showing


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
Ok, but what if he stops there


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
like he SHOULD


[04-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Reginald#0534
and what then?


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Reginald#0534
he is blocked there till they let him go?


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
you're both victim blaming and then saying that drivers are the real victims because they aren't allowed to use a road?


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Honahue#0656
hmm yes I shall argue from the hypothetical


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Honahue#0656
what if the protesters were made of chocolate


[04-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Crow#5457
and yes, you're making up a hypothetical that's easier to defend


[04-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Reginald#0534
I think the driver should be persecuted for this


[04-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Reginald#0534
I think the protesters should be persecuted for this as well


[04-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Crow#5457
that would be unconstitutional


[04-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Reginald#0534
This is an unlawful assembly


[04-Jul-20 11:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean you're doing a fine job persecuting them right now

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[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Reginald#0534
Get off the road, go to a park


[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Prosecuting, on the other hand, is a state matter


[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Honahue#0656
persecuted for what, being in the way of a car that shouldn't be there


[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Reginald#0534
don't tell the car where car can car, tzar


[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Crow#5457
there is no such thing as an unlawful assembly when it comes to protests


[04-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Honahue#0656
protests don't mean anything if people can ignore them


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
you can protest where ever you like, whenever you like


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
that's good?


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
you can't protest on a fucking road


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
sure you can


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
then get killed by cars


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Crow#5457
there is literally no limit to where you can protest in the US


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
your choice


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
sure is


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
no protest on private property


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
you may get shot for that


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Amndt. 1
> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Reginald#0534
^ this thing can be overpassed by common sense


[04-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
Again, the protestors put up sufficient warning to make sure people don't drive through them. They're not at fault here.


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Reginald#0534
they are at the fault, too


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Reginald#0534
they ahve no right to occupy the road


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] byte[]#2610
mods


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Honahue#0656
mm yes these guys weren't protesting in the road

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[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
And we have had organised street eacing events that block the road. You don't see anyone complaining about that.


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Reginald#0534
Hmm


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Reginald#0534
Ok


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Reginald#0534
fine


[04-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
drivers actually have laws binding them which make it illegal to run protesters over, even if they're in the middle of the street


[04-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Reginald#0534
Whoa


[04-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Reginald#0534
America is weird


[04-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Reginald#0534
:twisilly:


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] byte[]#2610
The US constitution gives you the right to peacefully protest, but not the right to kill people who may be blocking the road in protest


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Reginald#0534
Makes sense


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Reginald#0534
but why can they protest on the road


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Reginald#0534
this is dumb


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Reginald#0534
and they can vote


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Reginald#0534
just vote for a candidate that will change the law in the shape you want it to be


[04-Jul-20 11:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the constitution provides no legal limits to where you are allowed to protest


[04-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Honahue#0656
cause protest don't mean anything if they don't make themselves known


[04-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Honahue#0656
if the protest doesn't inconvenince someone then it's meaningless


[04-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Honahue#0656
civil rights didn't get passed becuase black people protested somewhere everyine could ignore them from


[04-Jul-20 11:37 AM] byte[]#2610
To put a legal spin on it, the first applies federally and to all state governments via the fourteenth


[04-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Reginald#0534
I don't understand the logic of 'if the protest is not annoying it's not good'


[04-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Reginald#0534
If I hear about a protest I may support it quietly, if they bother me I turn against them


[04-Jul-20 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
And because the constitution also describes the process of eminent domain acquisition of property for the use of the people


[04-Jul-20 11:38 AM] byte[]#2610
It seems logical that assemblies on private property are also permitted


[04-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Honahue#0656
cause the point of a protest is to enact change and if the protest is easily ignored theres no reason to make change


[04-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Reginald#0534
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/

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[04-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Reginald#0534
Your rights
Your rights are strongest in what are known as “traditional public forums,” such as streets, sidewalks, and parks. You also likely have the right to speak out on other public property, like plazas in front of government buildings, as long as you are not blocking access to the government building or interfering with other purposes the  property was designed for.


[04-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Reginald#0534
>interfering with other purposes the  property was designed for
Roads


[04-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Reginald#0534
Do I need a permit?
You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic.
Roads


[04-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
strongest, not present


[04-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruct is very narrow.


[04-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
That would be actually trying to prevent any car movement.


[04-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
it's giving a guidance on the best way to not get arrested for protesting, not on how to protest effectively


[04-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Reginald#0534
They set up a barricade


[04-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
> Your rights are strongest in what are known as “traditional public forums,” such as **streets**, sidewalks, and parks
Second part I'm sure is only taking about protests in front of builds.


[04-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Reginald#0534
Your protest effectivity cannot put human life under the effects.


[04-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does "put human life funder the effects" mean?


[04-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Reginald#0534
Don't put 'effectiveness of the protest' above human life.


[04-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Reginald#0534
Just get out of the streets.


[04-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Reginald#0534
Either you make yourself safe and execute your laws, or you gonna be hurt and unable to use your laws, soon.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
You havn't answered my question.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Honahue#0656
no one was dying until the guy ran over protesters


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Reginald#0534
Some crazy idiot behind a wheel will make sure of it.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you not intend to define your terminology?


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Reginald#0534
I already did.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, you didn't.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whose lives are being put under effects?


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
What effects?


[04-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Reginald#0534
'put human life funder the effects' - to value human life less than your 'protest effectivity quota'


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you saying that making drivers slow down causes harm to human lives?


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Reginald#0534
No, heck no.


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Reginald#0534
It actually helps.


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then what are you saying?


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Reginald#0534
What I'm saying is roads are for mobile transport.


[04-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
so you're saying that protesters putting themselves at risk is somehow devaluing human life?


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does that hav to do with human lives "put under effect"?


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Honahue#0656
bruh the whole effectiveness of non-violent protest is people willing to get a fucking truncheon to the head to prove that the state is in the wrong


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Reginald#0534
Staying on a road is putting yourself in the risk of getting rode over, yes.


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] ononim#8141
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[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you are saying that


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
a protest is not correct and should be stopped


[04-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
if the protestors are putting themselves at risk?


[04-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hekkler's fukking veto.


[04-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you familiar with the concept?


[04-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Reginald#0534
Drop more monuments at protesters when


[04-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It says that you can't go interrupting people's speech rights because of the possibility someone else will respond negatively.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
Ok, then.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, if a protest would lead to a hekkler coming in and setting fires, *you don't stop the protest*.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
It's like, common sense to first secure the position, and then state your business.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
Not the other way around.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar to the idea that you don't negotiate with terrorists.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are you arguing needs to be done?


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
That the protestors should hav been arrested, or that you think their actions are stupid?


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
The driver punished. The protesters punished.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
Punish everyone.


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would the protestors be punished for the actions of the driver?


[04-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Reginald#0534
:tired:


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
The protestors did secure the position.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you so insistent on destroying people's rights to peaceful assembly?


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Reginald#0534
Not very well, it seems.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the law, there is no hekkler's veto.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Reginald#0534
Those so called peaceful assemblies are shit.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
What part of "barrier" do you not get?


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Reginald#0534
It's covid time.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Reginald#0534
Stay at home and clean your hooves.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're not making any rational sense.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Reginald#0534

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[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a protest would lead to a driver running the protestors over, that is not a reason to stop the protest legally.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a reason to arrest the driver.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Reginald#0534
Yes.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Reginald#0534
But it's dumb as fuck to block the road.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Reginald#0534
No matter the case, I would vote against the protestors any day forever on.


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Roads are public in the most extreme way.


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are the perfect place to protest.


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Reginald#0534
Stay on the sidewalk!


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Reginald#0534
Don't endanger yoruself!


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sidewalk is tiny and restrictive.

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[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Reginald#0534
Just like a pussy.


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Honahue#0656
again protest that can be ignored aren't protests


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Reginald#0534
who cares


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to be very against people being heard.


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Reginald#0534
Human life is more important than this


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Honahue#0656
the protesters


[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
muted

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[04-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who want actual democracy care.


[04-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, that was some leapfrogging between different ways to say "protests bad".


[04-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I should note, I think the reason for staying on that "human life" point more than others is because the hekkler's veto is a fascist's dream.


[04-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Honahue#0656
no one should complain just try and vote


[04-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Honahue#0656
the point of a protest is voting hasn't worked


[04-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lets the angry mob of the majority justifiably destroy any minority protests by saying "well that will cause unrest, and it would put you in danger, so for your own protection, you can't do it"


[04-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Crow#5457
there's so many willing voters in the US who just can't vote anymore because of how many roadblocks have been put up to stifle voting


[04-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Honahue#0656
a lot of potential voters are apathetic cause they see that the difference betwerrn the 2 parties that matter are basically the same


[04-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I meant people who actually want to go out and stand in line for hours to vote, ignoring the fact that we can reliably make it so that voting is way more accessible without forcing people to inconvenience themselves


[04-Jul-20 11:59 AM] byte[]#2610
#politics IRL

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[04-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's gotten to the point where it's less of an inconvenience and more of a "you literally can't do this without going hungry/homeless" situation


[04-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
it accelerated since 2013 because the supreme court ruled that the part of the civil rights act of 1965 which required states to give reasonable justification for shutting down a polling place was struck down


[04-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
It's gotten to the point where the official designation can't even call the US a democracy.


[04-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
It's something else, I can't remember.


[04-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
It's basically "more money = more influence"


[04-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
Plutocracy.


[04-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
That's the one


[04-Jul-20 12:14 PM] zylgchs#4073
@Olibird "supporting Maoism" in the cultural revolution sense is pretty far from the idea of the original revolution


[04-Jul-20 12:23 PM] zylgchs#4073
And you could reverse my first sentence and say supporting Maoism is a better motivation than opposing slavery, the point I tried to make is still the same. It's about the actions


[04-Jul-20 12:32 PM] Cru#1673
The current president of Poland (from a conservative party) that is running for reelection (second ballot is next weekend) proposed today that the law abolishing people living with a partner of the same gender to adopt children should be written into constitution. 

Same sex unions are not recognized by law, so person living in such a relationship is considered single by law.

By current law a single person can adopt.

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[04-Jul-20 12:42 PM] Cru#1673
President Duda also granted a pardon to a convicted pedophile in March 2020 who molested his 11 year old daughter (he was already out of the jail but had a restraining order placed and it was lifted by the president)


[04-Jul-20 12:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Intelligentsias are all filthy! The more books you've read, the more reactionary you are!"  --Mao


[04-Jul-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny how it's always the reactionaries who say "no u" when accused of being reactionary


[04-Jul-20 12:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
According to my grandma's description, it's really chaotic during the cultural revolution


[04-Jul-20 12:48 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
People rush into the government buildings, seize the officers, then walk them on the street with chains


[04-Jul-20 12:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because Mao said "our enemy in in our government", so he calls people to find and kill all of those "traitors, spies and thieves"


[04-Jul-20 12:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So people just reported all the officers they dislike as "traitors", and let some stupid farmers and workers who can't even read be officers


[04-Jul-20 12:54 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
During that time, when u take an exam, just write "long live Mao Zedong" on the paper and you'll get full score


[04-Jul-20 12:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But if you answered all the questions correctly, you'll get punished, because "the more book you've read, the more reactionary you are"


[04-Jul-20 12:58 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny how reactionaries always seem to be the same no matter what culture they come from


[04-Jul-20 01:04 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
At least the "cultural revolution" in America isn't led by an ex national leader, it won't last long


[04-Jul-20 01:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Just some statues broken, won't cause more death than corona


[04-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Xenxc#4012
rip that one guy who got domed by a statue though


[04-Jul-20 01:07 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Okay. So, when will people stay off the i5 for their safety. Not against the protest (Protest all you want) but the I5 has had multiple of these incidents within 2 weeks. Why not protest at the governments homes? That would make more sense to me. Then they can't just ignore you.


[04-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
>won't cause more death than Corona
So I can expect the cultural revolution to end with up to 125,000 american deaths?


[04-Jul-20 01:25 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
America: So I have good news, and bad news.
America: The bad news is we lost the war against America.
America: The good news is we only lost 123 thousand men.


[04-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Don't feminists say men are expendable :twismug:


[04-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I'm sure they will be ecstatic to hear how their husbands died.


[04-Jul-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I hate that the term feminist has been bloated to mean "egalitarian" by well meaning people


[04-Jul-20 01:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/lilithlovett/status/1279342368534061058?s=21

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[04-Jul-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
because I can't even be mad at them for it


[04-Jul-20 01:34 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Not important but just wanted to share Brasil now can (much like China) monitor social media and censor people speaking against the government with the excuse of being "Fake News"


[04-Jul-20 01:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-got-angry-if-warned-about-russia-so-officials-avoided-2020-7

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[04-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
By the way. Does the USA prepare for voting during corona?


[04-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Standing in lines may be a bad idea.


[04-Jul-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Depending on where you go (since it's not a federal thing how this is handled at all) the answer ranges from "yes" to "no but we're doing it anyway"


[04-Jul-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
to "effectively no, but we'll say we did"


[04-Jul-20 02:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oof.


[04-Jul-20 02:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, some places are making vote-by-mail mandatory, some places already had that in place before covid, some places are trying to be as business-as-usual with face shields and hand sanitizer and lines on the floor, and a lot of places are like "well yeah we're still holding the election but 80-90% of our polling places are closed, and may the odds be ever in your favor"


[04-Jul-20 02:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and unfortunately there's a LOT more of that last category and the number of places that are in the first category can be counted on one hand


[04-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, the last category looks a bit weird.


[04-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wouldn't expect it to be a thing


[04-Jul-20 02:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They're literally consolidating every voting district into one place, forcing people to travel further, and almost always put the one that's open in the most densely-populated area, and I'm sure it's just a *coincidence* that in the places this is happening to an extreme, the places that voting has been made most inconvenient to the extent that you'd better expect to stand in line all day and hope you get in are also the places that vote heavily democratic


[04-Jul-20 02:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds counterintuitive to crowd people


[04-Jul-20 02:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because...there's a fear being perpetuated that issuing a paper ballot via the mail is just asking for voter fraud


[04-Jul-20 02:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and ignoring that most of their evidence is actually for electoral fraud, that is to say, the people in charge of handling the ballots once they've been collected


[04-Jul-20 02:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know, the kind of thing that's a greater risk by putting all the eggs in one basket (or votes in one ballot box/voting machine)


[04-Jul-20 02:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"Oh," they'll say, "but what about family members stealing ballots and filling them in" or "what about ballots being issued to registered voters who are either dead or registered in two places"


[04-Jul-20 02:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, I've actually worked as an election worker several times in the past, and I can tell you: Do you know how many times I've seen couples come in to vote and have "grocery lists" of people to vote for? Or parents having toddlers help them push the buttons? Surely that must be voter fraud, too


[04-Jul-20 02:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And as for voter registration, well, all of that is evidence of a failure on behalf of the board of elections. And why should it be up to the voter to have to register to vote, anyhow?


[04-Jul-20 02:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am not from US but I had a university group mate who was redressing up like 20 times to vote for someone.


[04-Jul-20 02:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, you'd be surprised to know that *doesn't really happen* here


[04-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Olibird#8782
@zylgchs 
>"supporting Maoism" in the cultural revolution sense is pretty far from the idea of the original revolution

I was using your fucking words, faggot. and no, the point you're trying to make ain't the same. Both guys toppling statues of Confucius and the guys toppling statues of people who owned slaves are both doing it because they THINK they're trying to destroy icons glorifying a history of systemic oppression


[04-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Olibird#8782
By the time of the cultural revolution, Confucius had become an icon of intellectual stagnation and oppression. Nothing he said could be challenged, and hell, what little schooling there was for the peasantry revolved around his teachings and the 7 (I can't remember the exact number) Classic Words that he pushed as the foundation of his teaching


[04-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Olibird#8782
to question him was to question God


[04-Jul-20 02:19 PM] Olibird#8782
Original thought wasn't just discouraged, it was outright banned. You thought what your superiors told you to think, you interpreted his writings how they told you to interpret them


[04-Jul-20 02:20 PM] Olibird#8782
That's why there's that old racist meme of "Confucious say" [insert stupid joke in broken english here]


[04-Jul-20 02:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Most people know of the east  from jackie chan movies I think


[04-Jul-20 02:21 PM] Olibird#8782
Yea


[04-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Olibird#8782
Most people don't know shit about history outside of what High School taught them


[04-Jul-20 02:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And I guarantee they weren't taught about the haitian revolution, or anything that was happening in the US east of the Mississippi during and after Reconstruction until the stock market crash


[04-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Olibird#8782
Oh, and before he starts about how Mao wasn't the point of the revolution

Mao was THE FACE of the revolution in China. He was their Lenin, and seen as such. Their George Washington, their William Wallace, their Martin Luther King jr. What he said went, because he was THE man with the master plan, THE man who was going to deliver them from oppression


[04-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Olibird#8782
If they're in the US, hell no. Nothing about Haiti, nothing about how South America gained its independence, and certainly nothing about what the US did down there in the 1900s besides "Dole banana bad"


[04-Jul-20 02:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't even think we got *that* much. The most I can remember learning at the time was that bananas got stupid-crazy popular and then some blight wiped out the popular kind and now we grow a different kind these days...and I don't think I learned that in school, either


[04-Jul-20 02:30 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Yeah we certainly didn't get anything like that in my primary school in Idaho


[04-Jul-20 02:30 PM] CrystalCat#1332
Hell, we didn't learn about our own atrocities until nearly high school. (Trail of Tears was an 8th grade subject)


[04-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Olibird#8782
Hah. See, the 1900s thing I mentioned ARE US atrocities. Actual atrocities


[04-Jul-20 02:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's actually more of that in Bill Wurtz' History of the World than I got in my entire formal education


[04-Jul-20 02:33 PM] Olibird#8782
Under Teddy Roosevelt's "Good Neighbor" policy, the US basically declared its self the Western Hemisphere Empire. We gave ourselves carte blanche to invade every country in North and South America, to insure no country from the Old World would have "undue influence" on them


[04-Jul-20 02:34 PM] Olibird#8782
In reality, we would invade, topple democratically appointed governments and install US puppets as dictators


[04-Jul-20 02:35 PM] Olibird#8782
There were a few times we did it at the behest of Dole Bananas, because uh oh, produce prices could be too high with things like workers rights and unions in that country! That's 10000% communist subversion down there, better kill all the people who disagree


[04-Jul-20 02:35 PM] Olibird#8782
We also burned Haiti to the ground a couple of times because we could


[04-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Don't run over protesters


[04-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Olibird#8782
Anyway, I bring all this shit up to make a point. Most people in the US are only taught about slavery, Indian genocides and Jim Crow as THE atrocities the US committed. That the US is unique in those crimes, that nobody did anything comparable, that we need justice for those three and only those three


[04-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Olibird#8782
when it's bullshit


[04-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Driver should be thrown in jail if found guilty in court


[04-Jul-20 02:50 PM] zylgchs#4073
@Olibird OKAY. Keep misinterpreting my words all you like


[04-Jul-20 02:52 PM] zylgchs#4073
I was saying "(at these times) people would do anything in name of their ideology, regardless of actual consequences"


[04-Jul-20 02:57 PM] zylgchs#4073
And you chose to go into an entire arguement about whether Mao himself was good or bad. Calling people faggot won't give your arguement any bonus points either


[04-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Olibird#8782
Faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot

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[04-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Olibird#8782
Yea I did read it wrong. I read it as you saying that BLM had a more worthy reason to riot than the Chinese did


[04-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Olibird#8782
In my defense, it was 4 am and I wasn't fully awake yet


[04-Jul-20 03:00 PM] zylgchs#4073
well glad we got it sorted out then:twihappy:


[04-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Olibird#8782
You still a faggot for having Celestia as your pfp tho. Luna best princess

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[04-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Olibird#8782
Or wait that ain't even Celly. THANKS PHONE


[04-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Olibird#8782
Fucking oc pones are even worse

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[04-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah. Filly Anon bad.

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[04-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[04-Jul-20 03:06 PM] zylgchs#4073
:smugset:


[04-Jul-20 03:06 PM] illumnious#7938
What’s next https://apple.news/A3uIzC-coTEKyE-uiBhkJbg

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Ivanka Trump’s ‘Gaslighting’ Fourth of July Coronavirus Advice Back...
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[04-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Olibird#8782
~~for real tho, your icon looks like a tjpone Celestia when smol~~


[04-Jul-20 03:08 PM] zylgchs#4073
I'll take that as a compliement to my oc


[04-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Olibird#8782
Yeh


[04-Jul-20 03:08 PM] illumnious#7938
So they actually understands now eh? https://apple.news/ATaB9JgaFSgKO0JTEpNJtkA

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Trump Is Now 'America's No. 1 Traitor,' Says Veterans Group — HuffP...
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[04-Jul-20 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1279311067785633793

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We are already pursuing a
Government over the £108m PPE contracts it said it entered into with a chocolatier and a supplier of pigeon netting.

I know there's only so much of this weirdness you can take but here are two more.

First Aventis Solutions Limited.
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[04-Jul-20 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Read the thread


[04-Jul-20 03:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It is... so very not good


[04-Jul-20 03:25 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1279315262538473473?s=21

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So what do we know about Ayanda Capital Limited? 

Well, it is owned by the Horlick family through an entity based in Mauritius, one of the worst tax havens in the world.
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[04-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that's fun, neonazis with SS symbols firebombed a Lebanese restaurant a block from where I live last night


[04-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Olibird#8782
:thatsagood:


[04-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess they weren't satisfied with just burning cars like last week


[04-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Olibird#8782
>inb4 every one of them is jewish


[04-Jul-20 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think if history's taught us anything it's that hatred has no sense of irony, so it wouldn't even matter if that were true


[04-Jul-20 03:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
they still torched the place


[04-Jul-20 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/imciarke/status/1279296781101211648?s=21

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can’t wait to see trump supporters wake up to #AllCountriesMatter tomorrow morning. who cares about the US’s independence day when we could celebrate all countries?
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[04-Jul-20 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-statue-protesters-want-to-end-america-mount-rushmore-speech-2020-7

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[04-Jul-20 04:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, to be honest, Mr. President, going by your definition of America... yes.


[04-Jul-20 04:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes we do want to end the "america" you have made "great."


[04-Jul-20 04:05 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s all


[04-Jul-20 04:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and maybe we're such awful americans that we'd wanna belittle the revolutionary war, too, but we kinda got beaten to the punch by all the confederates whose satues we've been tearing down, and the people who paid for those statues during the civil rights movement


[04-Jul-20 04:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You want your monument to tell history? Make a commemorative plaque. You want a vague symbol anyone can slap their ideology on? Put a dude on a horse.


[04-Jul-20 04:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, you go to liberty island, I think the most important thing on it isn't a big copper lady we got from France. I think it's the poem at her feet that Steven Miller attacked


[04-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Olibird#8782
Wow, talk about a fucking idiot who knows nothing about history or the American revolution


[04-Jul-20 04:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is a man who thinks nothing big has value unless you put your name on it


[04-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Olibird#8782
what does that have to do with  your ignorance?


[04-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Olibird#8782
How dare you try to tell me what the other side thinks when you can't describe what you're fighting for?


[04-Jul-20 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think you might've wooshed there, my dude


[04-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://youtu.be/cOlNHXQCT_4

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Samuel L. Jackson: "Try it!" about the N-word.
Samuel L Jackson messes with an interviewer about using the N-word in Django Unchained.
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[04-Jul-20 04:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
unless, of course, you were directing those comments at Trump and not anyone in this chat in particular


[04-Jul-20 04:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's directing them at you for attacking the traitorous south


[04-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Olibird#8782
No, I'm directing them at you, the tard who thinks the confederates were belittling the Revolution, when they literally seceded for the same reason the US declared Independence


[04-Jul-20 04:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can I ask you to break down the word "confederate" for me real quick


[04-Jul-20 04:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what does "con" mean, what does "federate" mean


[04-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think the 13 colonies seceded to keep their slaves


[04-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Olibird#8782
can I ask you to neck yourself for me real quick


[04-Jul-20 04:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
right, it means lynching, got it


[04-Jul-20 04:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're good at this


[04-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Olibird#8782
>I don't think the 13 colonies seceded to keep their slaves
that wasn't the only reason the South seceeded


[04-Jul-20 04:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wait, the south had 13 colonies? Boy, my education must've been really lacking


[04-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Olibird#8782
tell me Teaspoon, since you  aren't a fucking retard like the other guy, why do you think the 13 colonies declared independence from Britian?


[04-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Taxes to and laws from a government an ocean away that treated them as second class citizens


[04-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Olibird#8782
Taxes were really just the straw that broke the camel's back. You're absolutely right on the second one, though


[04-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Olibird#8782
Even more than just second class citizens, though


[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Olibird#8782
The prevailing attitude at the time, was that the industrialized Britian, was turning the New World into a world of slaves. Their entire economy was based around harvesting and exporting raw goods to British factories, where they'd be processed, and then shipped back to the Americas


[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Now, do you think it was just taxation that was the last straw, or might it possibly have been the concept of "taxation without representation"


[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Olibird#8782
Neither, Wing Beat, lemme finish


[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, I don't think I need to


[04-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Olibird#8782
Building Factories in the new world was extremely disencentivised, and under some colony charters, outright banned


[04-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Olibird#8782
The colonies as a whole, felt as though they were turned into economic slaves by the British elite. And, for the most part, they were


[04-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Olibird#8782
Hell, even intellectualism at the time was heavily repressed and mocked


[04-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Olibird#8782
If you were from the Americas, you were a retarded redneck, and it was seen as a novelty if you could even speak English with an English accent


[04-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Olibird#8782
Hell, people had to sell themselves into slavery to even get there


[04-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Think out of all of these people im the blissfuly igrontent


[04-Jul-20 04:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so what you're saying is, those colonies threw off the oppressive imperialist britains because...they thought slavery was a bad thing to do to people?


[04-Jul-20 04:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
...for the freedom to keep slaves?


[04-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Olibird#8782
Again, how about you let me finish my point before you draw conclusions that aren't there


[04-Jul-20 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't need to wait for conclusions if you're working off assumptions that are clearly wrong


[04-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Olibird#8782
But you're right on that first bit.


[04-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Olibird#8782
The future they saw, was one of which Britian had raped their lands of every natural resource, where they had no infrastructure to support themselves in a barren wasteland, and they'd end up starving to death because what little was LEFT in Americas was immediately taken away overseas by their British masters


[04-Jul-20 04:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can't have it both ways. You can't say that the founding fathers sought to free themselves from shackles because it was dehumanizing, and also say that the confederates seceded for the same reason the US declared independence


[04-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Olibird#8782
That's what the common man thought


[04-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Olibird#8782
Couple that feeling with incidents like the Boston Massacre


[04-Jul-20 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not unless you want to conclude that the founding fathers were all bigoted, racist, hypocritical slaveowners


[04-Jul-20 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think that's the point you want to try to make


[04-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, if you operate under the belief that slaves aren't people to begin with...


[04-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Olibird#8782
Have those "British masters" crack down on the harbors, and tax more and more, and holy shit, you have the common man grabbing his gun and shooting the lobsterbacks


[04-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
@Olibird Hey there!
I understand how political debates can always get heated up, we're welcome of such discussions no less and provide all the support to them.

Nonetheless, please try keeping in mind Rule #0, keeping excellency to others and chill with the cursing is highly appreciated and enforced on need. If persistent misbehaviour is noted we will have to provide you a cool down on the channel so be wary of it alright?

Thanks for the comprehension


[04-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Olibird#8782
Now, before you start screeching about slavery


[04-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Olibird#8782
Nibba, I'm trying to give a history lesson here


[04-Jul-20 04:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Wait, are you about to tell me the civil war wasn't about slavery either


[04-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Olibird#8782
Noooo, again. Before you start doing that


[04-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Olibird#8782
Do you know anything about the econnomic situation in the US, in the 1850s-60s?


[04-Jul-20 04:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you dug yourself in pretty deep with your slavery metaphors talking about the revolution, it's really undermined your point about the confederacy


[04-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Olibird#8782
I'm sure you've heard about the industrialized north and the rural south, yes?


[04-Jul-20 04:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, it's a common talking point amongst historical revisionists trying to defend those good, honest landowners in the south


[04-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Olibird#8782
Alright, well I'm not trying to revision anything. It's not just a common talking point with them, a lot of historians point to the divide as the reason the North won


[04-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Olibird#8782
more factories meant the North was able to produce more weapons than the South, ect


[04-Jul-20 04:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So the confederates had the right idea and were just outgunned? The south will rise again?


[04-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Olibird#8782
Nooo, that's not what I'm saying.


[04-Jul-20 04:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, you're saying that's what historians are saying


[04-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Olibird#8782
Let me ask you this. The who fought in the civil war were only a couple generations removed from the Revolutionary War. It happened less than a century before. the Revolutionary War, to them, was basically World War 2, to us


[04-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Olibird#8782
All the rhetoric from the lead up to the Revolutionary war, all the justifications, all the reasoning were still easily accessible. You could talk to your grandparents who fought the Brits


[04-Jul-20 04:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And how many loyalists were there? How many loyalists were at the constitutional congress? What happened to the tories during the revolutionary war? I could tell you


[04-Jul-20 04:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You might not like the answers, though


[04-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Olibird#8782
So, the South was extremely rural. Their economy was based around exporting raw goods. Cotton and Tobacco being the two major, MAJOR cash crops, existed to be sent to the north, processed into clothing and luxuries, and sold back to the people who made them for more money than it was 'exported' for


[04-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Olibird#8782
Now, only a small amount of people in the South actually owned slaves. Iirc, it was the richest 10% or so


[04-Jul-20 04:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
already off to a bad start


[04-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Olibird#8782
So the vast majority of people who filled the armies of the Confederacy, never actually owned slaves. They weren't rich enough, they were flat broke


[04-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Olibird#8782
So how would the guys fighting to keep their slaves convince people to grab guns and shoot up Fort Sumtner for them? To fight and die for the right for their rich cousins to own people?


[04-Jul-20 04:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, exactly


[04-Jul-20 04:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's exactly what they did


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The average soldiers aren't the ones that got statues erected over half a century later


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Olibird#8782
Yes, I agree with that. I'm asking you how do you think they did that, given the history lesson?


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Look around you today


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Olibird#8782
I'm not talking about today


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was the land (and slave) owning generals


[04-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Olibird#8782
Fuck today


[04-Jul-20 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you asked me to tell you how they could've convinced the masses in poverty to fight for the rich, and I'm telling you that they used the same rhetoric then that they're using today


[04-Jul-20 04:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They struck fear into their hearts. They told them that if the slaves were free, they'd revolt and steal their property, rape their women, and burn the south to the ground...unless they fought against the North who was trying to overturn slavery


[04-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Olibird#8782
There was definitely an aspect of that, but nowhere near as big as you'd think


[04-Jul-20 04:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you might not have slaves, or land, you might not have much of *anything,* but if you thought the big nasty yankee government was going to unleash a riot on what little you had


[04-Jul-20 04:42 PM] Olibird#8782
They were using the rhetoric of their Grandparents. That the aristocratic, industrialized North wanted to turn them all into economic slaves, to grow cotton and sell everything decent up to them. To leave everything south of the Mason-Dixon line barren and worthless. The only thing they had to keep from being trapped in the same cycle of poverty ,was by owning slaves. By having a slave do the work for you, it'd allow you to do more than farm for the Northern Masters. Yea, maybe YOU don't have any, but if you can save up enough for a slave, then YOU can succeed, YOU can live your dreams and build your own factory


[04-Jul-20 04:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
man, you have people shooting each other because they're being forced to wear masks in a grocery store


[04-Jul-20 04:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
people are easily manipulated by fear


[04-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Olibird#8782
They fought the North believing they were the spiritual successors of the Revolutionary War and Founding Fathers


[04-Jul-20 04:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And on what basis do you claim this is what they were fighting for?


[04-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Olibird#8782
Have you read any rhetoric from the time? Any of the thousands upon thousands of pages from people justifying secession and the need for a civil war?


[04-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Olibird#8782
Cause I have


[04-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Olibird#8782
Now, I'm not saying they're objectively correct.


[04-Jul-20 04:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What is the difference between rhetoric and propaganda?


[04-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Olibird#8782
You tell me.


[04-Jul-20 04:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause if the rhetoric isn't "objectively correct," then it is subjective and not even required to be what they actually believe. It's just gotta be what they *say* is the reason they're doing what they're doing


[04-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Olibird#8782
I mean, I'm also talking about letters the common soldier wrote home that were "Hey mom, I'm going to war and here's why"


[04-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Olibird#8782
If it's false propaganda, then why did so many common soldiers fight for em?


[04-Jul-20 04:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because propaganda works.


[04-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Olibird#8782
Congrats, you just fell for the same trap the House of Lords fell for, during the Revolutionary War


[04-Jul-20 04:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, and you think I'm saying the declaration of independence isn't propaganda, either?


[04-Jul-20 04:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
of course it is


[04-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Olibird#8782
"Look, the only people who actually care about this are a bunch of rich assholes. The common man doesn't ACTUALLY believe what they're saying"


[04-Jul-20 04:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Nah. The common man *absolutely* believes in it


[04-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Olibird#8782
They believed that right up until the Battle of Yorkton


[04-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Olibird#8782
that all they had to do was out propagandize the founding fathers, and convince the common man that this whole thing is quite stupid and they're fighting against their interests


[04-Jul-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And that's the problem. If you have two sides telling a story, and one is demonstrably true, then maybe you can convince the side that isn't well-informed to believe the lie instead. And that's the difference


[04-Jul-20 04:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the side that's lived the truth is told the truth, it's downright impossible to convince them otherwise unless you gaslight the hell out of 'em


[04-Jul-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[04-Jul-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The far-right male Karen cut


[04-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>not shaving the sides


[04-Jul-20 05:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, he doesn't have enough of a fade


[04-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Neckbeard.


[04-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will promote anime and wh40k probably


[04-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If elected


[04-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Olibird#8782
Look, if he'd actually legalize marrying your waifu, he'd get the right wing vote in an instant


[04-Jul-20 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Kill me


[04-Jul-20 05:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Later.


[04-Jul-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we aren't already dead?


[04-Jul-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-announced-national-garden-of-american-heroes-2020-7

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Trump announced a 'National Garden' to honor 'American heroes' afte...
The garden will feature a series of lifelike statues to honor at least 31 iconic Americans, none of whom had "lived perfect lives," Trump's order said.
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[04-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That is so confusing.


[04-Jul-20 05:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is he low-key making an excuse for himself?


[04-Jul-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Susan B. Anthony, Amelia Earhart, Benjamin Franklin, Billy Graham, Martin Luther King, Jr., Douglas MacArthur, former President Ronald Reagan, Jackie Robinson, and Betsy Ross are among the list included in the order.


[04-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Outside of the "politics" and origin of Mount Rushmore, I just don't think it looks good


[04-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't look like it's carved into the rock, it stands out super hard


[04-Jul-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
close ups look majestic (old ones anyway, the erosion has made modern close ups look awful), but then you zoom out with rushmore and it kinda looks like trashy shit


[04-Jul-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[04-Jul-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also looks tampographed into the mountain instead of carved


[04-Jul-20 05:33 PM] illumnious#7938
> we aren't already dead?
@prism stryder(intexda)  pretty much dead tho


[04-Jul-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what i;m more surprised about is that Trump hasn;t tried to force his face onto mount rushmore via executive order

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[04-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
plz no


[04-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hahahah


[04-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Don't give him any ideas


[04-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How does it work btw in USA, do people name streets after people who are still alive?


[04-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Like Obama avenue, Trump square...


[04-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Olibird#8782
Two tidbits about Mt Rushmore I love. The guy who made it, factored in 500 years of erosion when he designed it. So even though it looks like crap now, it's supposed to look great a couple centuries from now


[04-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Olibird#8782
and the other is that they ran out of usable rock to carve any more faces into it


[04-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Olibird#8782
They try to add a 5th, the whole thing would fall apart. Otherwise, legit, Mickey Mouse would be in it


[04-Jul-20 05:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the sad part is we have a narcissist running the white house who would be dumb enough to try

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[04-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Jul-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i want to see trump try so the whole thing falls apart and chaos ensues


[04-Jul-20 06:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koll2tjLX_s

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BARRICADE GARAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koll2tjLX_s
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CRITICIZE THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE
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[04-Jul-20 06:15 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/trump-merkel-teleofonat-mobbing-101.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-de-DE

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Aussagen von US-Insidern: Trumps Telefon-Mobbing gegen Merkel
Insider aus dem Weißen Haus berichten, wie US-Präsident Trump insbesondere mit weiblichen Staats- und Regierungschefs am Telefon rüpelhaft umgeht. Besonders auf Bundeskanzlerin Merkel habe er sich eingeschossen. Von Arthur Landwehr.
https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/bilder/trump-telefon-107~_v-videowebm.jpg


[04-Jul-20 06:16 PM] ononim#8141
Acording to a kraut I know, this is german state news talking about how he's a sexyst asshole with female heads of state and submissive pussy than around strongmen type of leaders


[04-Jul-20 06:17 PM] ononim#8141
Honestly, with how he sometimes flipflops on foreign policy, it is not surprising


[04-Jul-20 06:18 PM] ononim#8141
I once read someone joking how you could leave Trum with current ayatollah in a closed romm for five minutes, and he will come out singing prise for Islamic republic and going on how cool Iran is


[04-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Olibird#8782
well, yea. After all, they throw gays off buildings and legalize beating women


[04-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Olibird#8782
what's not to like about Islam?


[04-Jul-20 06:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u know,lots of things


[04-Jul-20 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, i think islam has many problems rn, such as the fact that way too many brethren find Ali Ibn Abi Talib's succession to Muhammad (peace be upon him) supposedly illegitimate


[04-Jul-20 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twiright:


[04-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/505860-putin-rainbow-flag-at-us-embassy-in-moscow-revealed-something

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Putin: Rainbow flag at US embassy in Moscow 'revealed something abo...
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday mocked the U.S. embassy in Moscow for flying a rainbow flag in celebration of LGBTQ+ rights, suggesting the waving of the flag "revealed something about the people that work there," referencing the workers' sexual orientation.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/lgbtflag_rainbowflag_getty060719.jpg


[04-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Official US government response just got released


[04-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"no u"


[04-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's always nice to know your shitheap isn't the biggest and stinkiest shitheap


[04-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Olibird#8782

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[04-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russians know nothing but the boot


[04-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Yes, we passed a law banning the propaganda of homosexuality among minors. So what? Let people grow up, become adults and then decide their own destinies"- Putin


[04-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats kinda good idea,dont u think?


[04-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking 
> Ekaterina Lakhova, head of the Women's Union of Russia, told Putin Friday that she feared brands, such as an ice cream company with a flavor called "Rainbow" and any other forms of multicolored advertising, could be defined as propaganda and could encourage non-traditional values, according to the RIA news agency.

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[04-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oh no not the menacing rainbow ice cream!"


[04-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But that law is usually used against gays so they cant show their relationships in public or show any activity in social networks


[04-Jul-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Son, rainbows are representative of gay!"
"Mom, what is gay?"


[04-Jul-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Gay is spiders, Billy. Gay is spiders"


[04-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they want people to grow up and decide their own destiny, why indoctrinate them in politics or religion as kids


[04-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cause they only need dumb people


[04-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Life expectancy for a man at birth is 65


[04-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.pravdareport.com/health/120204-erectile_dysfunction/

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90 percent of Russian men suffer from erectile dysfunction
A group of Russian scientists under the direction of the chief urologist of Health Ministry, Professor Dmitry Pushkar, decided to find out how Russian males...
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[04-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
60% divorce rate


[04-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"I bet it's the West and gays doing this!"


[04-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ye


[04-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Blame USA for everything


[04-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats the moto of Russia


[04-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Olibird#8782
That's the motto of most of the world


[04-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Trump and Biden in exact tie in Florida


[04-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this going to happen every 20 years with you, Florida


[04-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Olibird#8782
:BlitzBrows:


[04-Jul-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/surgeon-general-opposes-a-nationwide-mask-mandate-rebellion-2020-7

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US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said he is against a nationwide mas...
While Adams encouraged their usage, especially at Fourth of July events, he argued a mandate would lead people to rebel and "do the exact opposite."
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[04-Jul-20 08:19 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a surprisingly measured take from this administration


[04-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"The population is literally too stupid and full of themselves to take any advice from us"
Damn


[04-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/antonin-scalia-trump-national-garden-heroes-statues

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President Trump on Friday announced the creation of a National Garden of American heroes to pay tribute to historically significant Americans -- a garden that will include former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia and baseball star Jackie Robinson among past presidents, anti...
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[04-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Pontology#1010
Not advice. _Orders_


[04-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Pontology#1010
He's arguing against a nationwide mandate of "put on a mask or we'll arrest you"


[04-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, _fuck_ seatbelts amirite


[04-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Pontology#1010
https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/oregon-county-issues-face-mask-order-exempting-non-white-people/amp/

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Oregon county issues face mask order that exempts nonwhite people
Lincoln County, Oregon, has exempted nonwhite people from a new order requiring that face coverings be worn in public — to prevent racial profiling. Health officials announced last week resid…
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[04-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Pontology#1010
The law is not enforceable


[04-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Pontology#1010
But if it were, I would intentionally not wear a mask


[04-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Pontology#1010
And dare them to arrest me for being white


[04-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Olibird#8782
:this:


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You do realize that exemption is only there because people are freaked out enough by black kids wearing hoodies


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Olibird#8782
A racist law is still a racist law


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The thought of black kids wearing _masks_ sends suburbanites into a pissy panic


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
wtf


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
How is that law not blatantly racist?


[04-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Olibird#8782
It is


[04-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
It absolutely it.


[04-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it's literally "white people are so racist we need to exempt black people lest the be lynched"

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[04-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Who would pass that kind of law


[04-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Olibird#8782
Doesn't matter. The law is not allowed to bend because 'people will be bigots'


[04-Jul-20 08:47 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Can confirm any time a black person puts on a hood I get robbed. So sick of this shit tbh


[04-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
~~better than a white person wearing a hood~~


[04-Jul-20 08:49 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Dont strike it out like you're being ironic. Be proud


[04-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why the fuck is Scalia on that list and not Warren Burger, Thurgood Marshall, or Sandra Day O'Connor?


[04-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Scalia was a dime a dozen.


[04-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
> But people of color do not have to follow the new rule if they have “heightened concerns about racial profiling and harassment” over wearing the masks, officials said.
Hm...


[04-Jul-20 08:51 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Racial profiling works. If you call the cops as soon as they walk into the store then the police will arrive by the time they're done shaking you down


[04-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Pontology#1010
Can't tell how serious...


[04-Jul-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The full list of figures named in the executive order includes:

    John Adams
    Susan B. Anthony
    Clara Barton
    Daniel Boone
    Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain
    Henry Clay
    Davy Crockett
    Frederick Douglass
    Amelia Earhart
    Benjamin Franklin
    Billy Graham
    Alexander Hamilton
    Thomas Jefferson
    Martin Luther King, Jr.
    Abraham Lincoln
    Douglas MacArthur
    Dolley Madison
    James Madison
    Christa McAuliffe
    Audie Murphy
    George S. Patton, Jr.
    Ronald Reagan
    Jackie Robinson
    Betsy Ross
    Antonin Scalia
    Harriet Beecher Stowe
    Harriet Tubman
    Booker T. Washington
    George Washington
    Orville and Wilbur Wright.


[04-Jul-20 08:52 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
The worst thing a white person ever did during my tenure at 7/11 was try to buy beer after midnight


[04-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Olibird#8782
Too many blacks on that list


[04-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
why are you like this


[04-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Ah, so that explains why you said
> Can confirm any time a black person puts on a hood I get robbed. So sick of this shit tbh


[04-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Working in a 7/11 after midnight will do that


[04-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Billy Graham


[04-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
fucking lol


[04-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Olibird#8782
I see a distinct lack of asian americans, hispanics, indigenous...


[04-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Televangelism/20th century American fundamentalists did more damage to Christianity than pretty much anything but save like, the Crusades


[04-Jul-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because trump would totally know any other famous/historical asian who isnt jackie chan or bruce lee


[04-Jul-20 09:02 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
mao zedong


[04-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Pontology#1010
Can't tell if olibird is being facetious


[04-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Pontology#1010
"Too many black people, distinct lack of asians and indigenous"


[04-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Pontology#1010
:fillyconfused:


[04-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Pontology#1010
Like, is he mocking woke progressives, or is he one?


[04-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Olibird#8782
:BlitzBrows:


[04-Jul-20 09:11 PM] PwnyPony#6185
The Radical Left 🤘🏿 🛹 
https://youtu.be/p9lCgsVvAYA

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The Oregonian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9lCgsVvAYA
Portland skateboarders join Black Lives Matter protests
Skateboarders held a Black Lives Matter skate event through Portland on June 10, 2020, meeting up at the Moda Center and traveling along Waterfront Park, the Steel Bridge and the Tilikum Bridge.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p9lCgsVvAYA/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Comic relevant to that video

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[04-Jul-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1279446900140277761?s=20

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Hey clueless liberals & dumb liberal media, let u in on secret. Its holiday, so I've heard from hundreds of friends. Conservative patriots. All of them buying every gun they can get hands on. We're all locked & loaded like never before in history. Ready to defend ourselves & ...
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[04-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Pontology#1010
:shrug: You can never have too many guns 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gun-sales-soar-145-june-192336961.html

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Gun sales soar 145% in June amid protests, coronavirus pandemic
June marks the fourth month that has seen a noticeable increase in gun sales.
https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/social/images/yahoo_default_logo-1200x1200.png


[04-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Olibird#8782
:sirenvibrating:


[04-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Pontology#1010
:whagun: :whitney::usw::steyrm9::shockwave::pp99left::pm06::mateba::shotgun: :nagant::mak::jericho::hipoint::grach::ambright::90two::gundash:


[04-Jul-20 09:18 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
brb buying gun stocks and stocks in guns


[04-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats a good idea,u might need it to fend off angry mob or looters


[04-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gun sales always go up when people get scared the gov't will take them away.


[04-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Pontology#1010
This isn't from fear of that though. This is from fear of mobs.


[04-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Pontology#1010
Rioters and looters.


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Olibird#8782
:this:


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and just black people in general


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:roseconfused:


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Pontology#1010
If you casually conflate "rioters and looters" with "black people in general"


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Pontology#1010
I have bad news for you about who's the racist here


[04-Jul-20 09:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my point was that the people with the gusn wont look at just the rioters and looters


[04-Jul-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll start trying to get handsy with any blakc person thye come accross "just in case"


[04-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Pontology#1010
That's quite the blanket statement


[04-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
I saw pics of the line wrapping around the block in L.A. gun stores


[04-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
(It seems to be in liberal cities prone to riots that sales are spiking most)


[04-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
I didn't see a single white person


[04-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do recall when Ronald Reagan made it so you couldn't open carry in California.


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Pontology#1010
yeah, and trump banned bump stocks


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Pontology#1010
big dumb


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not the same thing.


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Olibird#8782
exact same thing


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bump stokks were pretty minor and it got held up like crazy.


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Pontology#1010
I know Reagan did that because people were afraid of the black separatist movement


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RealWayneRoot/status/1279446900140277761?s=20 this guy was likely not one of those people in those lines

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Hey clueless liberals & dumb liberal media, let u in on secret. Its holiday, so I've heard from hundreds of friends. Conservative patriots. All of them buying every gun they can get hands on. We're all locked & loaded like never before in history. Ready to defend ourselves & ...
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[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Olibird#8782
both caved to public pressure over useless gun control


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Banning open carry as a whole is a much stronger move.


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't public pressure for Reagan.


[04-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA was fully behind the move.


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Pontology#1010
NRA has been traitors half the time


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment there were blakk people with guns on the steps to the state capital building, guns were the enemy.


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Pontology#1010
There's a reason _Gun Owners of America_  is so huge


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
White people with guns are not treated this way.


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a clear racial component to how guns and their usage is thought of.


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Olibird#8782
oohh, there's a good reason for that one


[04-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and gun control has its origins in disenfranchising black people. I know all of this.


[04-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The NRA will always rally behind white people with guns.


[04-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Pontology#1010
GOA is better


[04-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Except, conveniently, at the Republican National Convention.


[04-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Pontology#1010
Uncompromising


[04-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which bans guns being brought in while the party simultaneously insists that more people with guns means more safety.


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Pontology#1010
That's not inconsistent at all :facehoof:


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Pontology#1010
Are you being serious?


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Pontology#1010
I can't tell


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
How is it consistent to disallow guns at the convention for safety reasons, while saying that guns should be on people to increase safety?


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Pontology#1010
It's not possible to keep guns out of the hands of criminals generally. It's possible to keep all guns out of a very tightly controlled building.


[04-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
These are contradictory decisions.


[04-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay, so no guns in Walmart, state capital buildings, or schools, right?


[04-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
_If_ schools have security checks and bag-searching for everyone entering/leaving, like in Israel, then yes


[04-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
Where schools are basically like prisons


[04-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
and going to school has TSA-like checks


[04-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
to get inside the building


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's common in California.


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Extremely common.


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hate it.


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What type of fucked up country would require safety checks and armed security guards at schools


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
One that wants to keep minorities suppressed.


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like Israel and the US :twismug:


[04-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
One with palestinian terrorists who bomb school children


[04-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans insist quite a lot to hav armed guards at schools, while also ragging on searching bags. It's bizarre.


[04-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't know there were that many palestinian bombers in the US


[04-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Pontology#1010
I was talking about Israel, in which it's common


[04-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Pontology#1010
Luna is talking about California, which apparently wants to suppress minorities (??)


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well, yes.


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Did you really think Silicon Valley wants blakk people around?


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Wew, those racist progressives


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why everything has to be about suppressing minorities


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley is false progressive.


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want their neoliberalism to include gays and women.


[04-Jul-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to america


[04-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
All while having robots harass the homeless and blakks to be kept out.


[04-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Olibird#8782
Easy electrify. They have to have this bizzare conspiracy theory that everything is about supressing a certain race, or else their concept of the world doesn't make any sense


[04-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Olibird#8782
no different than the nutbags who think there's a cabal of jews behind everything bad in the world


[04-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well when you hav things like the Ban the Box reseponse, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to not be racism.


[04-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is, in areas where blakks aren't like, 25% or more of the population, if you ban companies asking whether someone's an ex-felon, suddenly companies just throw out any resume with a blakk-sounding name.


[04-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Olibird#8782
why do you mispell Black?


[04-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Pontology#1010
He's special that way


[04-Jul-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
C is redundant


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
ck is a lingual abomination.


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Olibird#8782
I thought the meme was to spell things with two cs now


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie It's almost as if it's not worth the risk when companies can't judge people as individuals.


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Olibird#8782
like thicc


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Pontology#1010
**Because when you're prohibited from judging people as individuals, you can only use demographic and statistical averages**


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being an ex-felon isn't an individual judging.


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a demographic.


[04-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The laws make you a felon for so many damn things in the US it's become meaningless, unless you want to sort people by race indirectly.


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Olibird#8782
Well that's not true at all


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
We hav drug laws that are specifically targeted at blakks


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

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Report: Nixon's war on drugs targeted black people
One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150727062530-richard-nixon-1974-super-tease.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Olibird#8782
The laws themselves target possession. They have nothing racial codified


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Pontology#1010
Like how black tar heroin is illegal, but not white powder heroin?


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Pontology#1010
/s


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
The cocaine/crakk discrepancy still exists.


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
You don't need to directly say race to practice racism.


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Pontology#1010
One is much much worse tbf


[04-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Really?


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which one and why?


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Olibird#8782
So does that mean the heroin laws are targetting white people?


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Olibird#8782
Since they're far more likely to use heroin?


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes. Crack cocaine is worse; it's far more concentrated and destroys you much much faster


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
Source?


[04-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Pontology#1010
It's like how beer and vodka have different laws around them


[04-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm a recovering drug addict (nearly 3 years clean)


[04-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anecdote.


[04-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Pontology#1010
I've done just about everything


[04-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv me data.


[04-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Olibird#8782
Oh look, now you're sealioning


[04-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Olibird#8782
lived experience only counts when it agrees with your mindset


[04-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
I hav never supported anecdote in here.


[04-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
Giv me actual data.


[04-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Pontology#1010
Also
"Despite this widespread belief, information from the National Institute on Drug Abuse showed that in 1991, the majority of crack users were Caucasian."


[04-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure this remains true today, given the ex-crackheads I know in Narcotics Anonymous meetings (I live in a pretty mixed area)


[04-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Olibird#8782
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/cocaine-treatment/differences-with-crack

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What is Crack Cocaine?: Differences Between Crack and Cocaine
What is the difference between crack and cocaine? American Addiction Centers explores the form, use, and side effects of cocaine and crack cocaine.
https://admin.americanaddictioncenters.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/crack-2.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Pontology#1010
> Another difference between crack and cocaine relates to the high produced. The intensity and duration of the high largely relate to how the drug is taken, per the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Generally, when cocaine is injected or smoked, the drug takes effect more quickly, resulting in a more intense but shorter high.


[04-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Pontology#1010
From that article


[04-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Pontology#1010
That's how it destroys people more quickly. It's far more intense.


[04-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
If the majority of usage is by whites, why is the majority of imprisonment of blakks for crakk?


[04-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a faster high does not establish it destroys people faster.


[04-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It only establishes that it is faster-acting.


[04-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many times in the body, it's the long-term slow burn stuff you need to watch out for.


[04-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Pontology#1010
A more intense and shorter high does. It makes people crave it more, and crave it more frequently, turning them into crackheads.


[04-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
And the faster high was not why the law was stricter on crakk until recently.


[04-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Olibird#8782
no, this was "Before 1986, federal laws treated crack and cocaine the same. News coverage during that time reported a crack epidemic, according to Newsweek, stating that crack was “the most addictive drug known to man.”"


[04-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
`Passage of this act immediately resulted in the prosecution of many African American males who were caught with as little as 5 grams of crack. Since these men often resided in low-income neighborhoods, crack was more readily available due to its ease of production and low price.

African Americans became the criminal targets of the crack epidemic. Most defendants in crack trials were African American while those in powdered cocaine trials tended to be Caucasian or Hispanic. In 2002, African Americans represented more than 80 percent of those charged with crack offenses.

This created racial and social disparity in the legal process that endured until the passage of the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, which eliminated the five-year mandatory minimum sentence and increased the amount of crack necessary to result in the minimum sentence.

The Act also changed the crack-to-powder-cocaine ratio regarding the amount required to impose an equal sentence from 100-to-1 to 18-to-1. While the disparity in sentencing is still great at 18:1, it is significantly reduced.`


[04-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Olibird#8782
literal media hysteria caused it


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
The media histeria was promoted by the gov't.


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Olibird#8782
like what's caused the hysteria over the coronavirus and the current riots


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
They wanted blakks in jail.


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't change the subject.


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Olibird#8782
your subject sucks as much as your grammar


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ad hominem.


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Olibird#8782
fucking learn to spell


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Olibird#8782
you're disrespecting your namesake


[04-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[04-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Pontology#1010
You think the Silicon Valley, the central hub of woke progressivism, is white supremacist


[04-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
🇫


[04-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Pontology#1010
You're kind of a nut on race matters


[04-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/being-black-in-silicon-valley-systemic-racial-injustice/

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'We existed in parallel universes’ – what it’s like to be black in ...
Living in the white suburban bubble of San Francisco made me realize how oblivious America is to the trauma of its black citizens. Or, to put it another way, how systemically racist it is.
https://assets.weforum.org/article/image/responsive_medium_H0Zj33GjtnWsd1B_eGOZuSeydcM7Mg25PUyYbR2W5gI.JPG


[04-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly anecdote, but it has some useful nuggets in there.


[04-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Business Insider as usual is paywalling its juicy articles.


[04-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Pontology#1010
:wheeze: :wheeze: :wheeze:


[04-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Literally calls San Francisco white supremacist


[04-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Pontology#1010
This is _nuts_


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[04-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racist and white supremacist aren't exactly the same.


[04-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley mostly wants to just ignore racial problems and minorities.


[04-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wants to preserve what is, rather than instate some kind of white monarchy.


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Facebook does tollerate downright nazi content iirc, unless the meme page or such gets way too big


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Theirinterest is capital, though, after all


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also, there are plenty of people that think other races are naturally inferior and need their help in being uplifted


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Without being "supremacist"


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just ingrained racism


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm from the Silicon Valley. My high school was majority-asian


[04-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Pontology#1010
You do know that whites are a minority in California, right?


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Pontology#1010
And not even the largest minority


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Pontology#1010
Silicon Valley is super-asian


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They might put up a show of being progressive when pride month comes and such, but their class intereest relies on keeping political conflict going, because it can generate money


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Yeah. Tbh I would be fine walling off California and letting Mexico annex it. Cut our losses


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Pontology#1010
The high school in Cupertino next door was like 90% asian


[04-Jul-20 09:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@plasteredpegasus have fun losing about 60% of the national economy


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Oh noes not my iphone 2XX-Spyware 3000


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
What will our nation do without midnless consumerism


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He's really smart for a black kid" is the sort of comment that mostly comes from people that don't think they're racist or don't vie for some white ethnostate, but they've just been culturaly trained to see black kids as dumber due to racial traits alone


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Asians are given racism in the other direction.


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@plasteredpegasus not just electronics either


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Foodstuffs, too


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Workforce


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't during the cold war supported the idea of them as a "model minority" to try to prevent Asian countries going communist, and using that as a cudgel against blakks.


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mnufactures


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Most of the food produced in california is consumed in california


[04-Jul-20 09:51 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
They can keep it


[04-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Pontology#1010
Wew, this conspiracy theorizing


[04-Jul-20 09:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
California alone could easily sustain itself as an independent state


[04-Jul-20 09:52 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Good! Let's get rid of them


[04-Jul-20 09:52 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Im tired of them being allowed to vote in American politics


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They don't even swing the vote much lol


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_minority

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A model minority is a minority demographic (whether based on ethnicity, race or religion) whose members are perceived to achieve a higher degree of socioeconomic success than the population average, thus serving as a reference group to outgroups. This success is typically meas...


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their representation is limited by the electoral college


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-has-its-own-long-standing-systemic-racial-problem-2020-6

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Silicon Valley billionaires are lining up to condemn racism. But th...
From Tim Cook to startup founders, Silicon Valley is speaking out about the death of George Floyd. But tech has its own longstanding racial problems.
https://i.insider.com/5ed6deeaf34d053f8f471bc6?width=1200&format=jpeg


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Severely in fact


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Any amount of representation is too much in the hands of the trogolodytes of california


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Pontology#1010
Annoying paywall.


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Pontology#1010
I do know that Google is majority-asian though


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
because every policy in the US is influenced by California


[04-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is again mostly anecdote, but has far more useful things in it than the first article https://www.raconteur.net/hr/silicon-valley-discrimination

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Silicon Valley: using culture fit to disguise discrimination?
The lack of diversity in Silicon Valley is well-documented. Here one man shares his story of what it's like to be black and in tech.
https://www.raconteur.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/TM_p15_1.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
including territories


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and Puerto Rico


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and Alaska


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and Hawaii


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Pontology#1010
iirc Google is something like 60% asian 30% white


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Puerto Rico isn't even represented iirc


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Those damn white racists


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's basically a colony


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea is that asians are smarter and more tech savvy


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
bad economy? Blame California


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine a nation's policies being influenced by one of its largest centres of population and economy


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Utterly barbaric


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Well, _they are_ on average!


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Stubbed you're toe? Blame California


[04-Jul-20 09:54 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
California taking all my fucking taxes and giving it to freeloaders


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Net negative for the country


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok Trump


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Pontology#1010
That's why despite being 15% of california, they're 60% of google and 40% of UC Berkeley etc


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://hrexecutive.com/facebook-employees-say-company-tolerates-racism/

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Facebook employees say company tolerates racism | HRExecutive.com
Minority employees say the social media company culture "empowers racism."
https://hrexecutive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Facebook-employees-700x450.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Pontology#1010
The existence of racial disparities in education and income is just how life is


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Pontology#1010
And asians tend to be better-educated and higher-income than white people


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Pontology#1010
so will be disproportionately employed in the Silicon Valley


[04-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Pontology#1010
as they are


[04-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Silicon-Valley-Shockley-racist-semiconductor-lab-13164228.php

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How a racist genius created Silicon Valley by being a terrible boss
In 1956, William B. Shockley's semiconductor laboratory off San Antonio Road in Mountain View was a small firm developing devices for a new invention, the transistor. But it started a revolution in technology - some would argue unwittingly - that touches almost every aspect of...
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/75/11/47/16030145/4/rawImage.jpg


[04-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's how life is because of centuries of racially targeted policies that were at best simply undone, but rarely at all corrected


[04-Jul-20 09:56 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
It's like it is because some races have higher iq


[04-Jul-20 09:56 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
iq is genetic


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like breaking someone's leg in a race and a lap later going "hey, why you so slow? We all started this lap together"


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhhh


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053

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[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Silicon Valley literally formed from people who worked for a racist prikk leaving because his company fell apart.


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Pontology#1010
And now they're mostly east-asian, with their average IQ of 108


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
(and not because of the racism)


[04-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Pontology#1010
:shrug:


[04-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Pontology#1010
white people lost to a smarter race


[04-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Pontology#1010
I know historical oppression translates in areas to contributing to modern-day inequality


[04-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Pontology#1010
But different races will _never_ have identical average incomes, etc


[04-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/report-finds-23-billion-racial-funding-gap-for-schools/2019/02/25/d562b704-3915-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html


[04-Jul-20 09:59 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
yeah because jewish people keep hogging all the money

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[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@plasteredpegasus wew


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Pontology#1010
Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of ~112


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anti-semitism is not okay in here.


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] plasteredpegasus#1129
Good thing facts arent antisemetic


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Averages won't be the same when school resources are not the same.


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Pontology#1010
If you look into the research on correlation between wealth and IQ, and do some statistics, it actually checks out that Jews should be about 30% of U.S. billionaires, which they are


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sure /pol/ has its own discord server, no need to bring its trash here


[04-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Pontology#1010
It's just because of their significantly higher average IQ, not ethno-nepotism


[04-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wealth causes IQ, dude.


[04-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Pontology#1010
It's mostly genetic


[04-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
You get better schooling, better nutrition, better parental circumstances, you get better IQ.


[04-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wealth and culture


[04-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm pretty sure you guys have been here before. Genes are a significant part.


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104

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The new genetics of intelligence
Recent genome-wide association studies have catapulted the search for genes underlying human intelligence into a new era. Genome-wide polygenic scores promise to transform research on individual differences in intelligence, but not without societal and ethical implications, as...
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fnrg.2017.104/MediaObjects/41576_2018_Article_BFnrg2017104_Fig1_HTML.jpg


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Asian kids get higher IQ scores because of helicopter parents constantly pressuring them to focus their life on education above all else, because that's the culture


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes we've heard this modern frenology before.


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Pontology#1010
>anti-science left


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Pontology#1010
It's mainstream genetics


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't make it more true now just because there's a component of IQ in genes.


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok now bring up the causation to that correlation


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are significant environmental factors on IQ


[04-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who starve do not grow up with high IQs.


[04-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
This can even be seen experimentally in mice.


[04-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Pontology#1010
@Teaspoon And that culture probably has roots in their racial character. Personality is partially heritable. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5068715/

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Heritability estimates of the Big Five personality traits based on ...
According to twin studies, the Big Five personality traits have substantial heritable components explaining 40–60% of the variance, but identification of associated genetic variants has remained elusive. Consequently, knowledge regarding ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/corehtml/pmc/pmcgifs/pmc-logo-share.png


[04-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
The environment you giv them determines a ton of how smart they become.


[04-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Rich kids of any race that aren't spoiled little shit are going to end up with higher IQ because they have access to better education and educational tools, as well as less stress and more avenues for learning things on their own


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
The brain in a rich environment is physically different.


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you know what happens in areas that got redlined in the 60s?


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
No property wealth.


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Property taxes fund education.


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Pontology#1010
@Teaspoon Do you seriously think there's _no_ genetic component?


[04-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Property wealth is also pretty important to things like securing loans.


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if you get bad education, you won't get good employment.


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if there is it;s not the sole factor


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when the company says "well you're an ex-felon cause you one time stole somebody's stereo to pay for food"


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means you can't provide food for your kids


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
who then grow up with less food, less education, worse nutrition, worse hygiene, you name it.


[04-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Pontology#1010
This condoning thievery is really weird


[04-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not condoning thievery.


[04-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm condemning forcing people to do it to survive.


[04-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
And condemning condemning people forever over doing such.


[04-Jul-20 10:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It ain't condoning thievery, it should be condoning communism and a better societal mentality on resource distribution


[04-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe if you don't like thievery, you should be against how we basically mandate it with low wages and high food/rent costs.


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism is thievery


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Inequality is thievery


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Pontology#1010
Those $1 burgers at mcdonald's are so unaffordable


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Implying one can sustain on mcdonalds burgers alone


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need like 5 burgers a day to survive.


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
that's a nonsequitur, not to mention that mcdonald's isn't nutritious...


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, that's terrible nutrition.


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow you're really going cope mode here bro


[04-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
You need fiber and a lot of vitamins not found in meat.


[04-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
5 burgers a day will leave you with heart disease and poor health.


[04-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's still MORE THAN FOOD STAMPS PAY FOR


[04-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"lol, eat at McD's, it's cheap" immediately followed by "Fucking fatty, stop eating so much McD's, no wonder your health is shit"


[04-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
Food stamps are often 3 or 4 dollars a day.


[04-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Nebbie#8545
The real cheap food is like, rice in bulk.


[04-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then you need a $50 rice cooker


[04-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a $400 fridge to store all your cooked rice


[04-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and a $100 pantry to store the uncooked rice where rats won't get into it.


[04-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
This all adds up when you need to pay for rent at $1000/month


[04-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
and are making minimum wage.


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Monthly gross from federal minimum wage is about $1300


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Pontology#1010
And rent. I pay $275/month in rent. Even if I made minimum wage, I'd have hundreds per month to spare.


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Where the hell are you that you pay under $300 a month on rent?


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not that cheap even *here* and I'm in a place that's semi-rural.


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Pontology#1010
A city in Florida


[04-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
You won't find that anywhere in a bigger city, and certainly not in somewhere like Silicon Valley.


[04-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Your rice logistics are screwy


[04-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Screwy yes


[04-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
the point is there's a big fixed cost.


[04-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which starts to be unaffordable when you need to pay rent every month on time.


[04-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can find a rice cooker for like $20, and a two person serving cooks in like 15 minutes


[04-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fixed costs are what keep the poor from getting the recurring efficiencies necessary to reduce overall costs.


[04-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All you need to stop rats is a metal container


[04-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Pontology#1010
My dad was raised poor, college was completely debt, in college he ate only rice, beans, and potatoes, kind of like you say


[04-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The fixed cost to start would need to be below $100 total to really make a huge dent in things.


[04-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But yes, the system is rigged in a way where initial costs for good things are high


[04-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A cheap car will break down often requiring constant repairs, but a cheap car is all many can afford


[04-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's before getting into things like food variety (rice alone isn't good and will make you fat)


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
An expensive car will over time cost less to run, but the initial cost is prohibitive


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Pontology#1010
Rice and beans should cover all bases


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, you can't even use food stamps on burgers from fast food in most places.


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what was the minimum wage when your dad was in college?


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Milk, beans, and fish would cover all bases.


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fish is super expensive.


[04-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Milk is expensive.


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Beans cover most but not all bases.


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Minimum wage was $1.60 apparently


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Celestia help you if you need to host parties to stay on good terms with the neighbors.


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
In what year?


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Which in today's dollars is $8


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Pontology#1010
so same as today


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
1971?


[04-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Pontology#1010
yes


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Pontology#1010
Well, 74


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
has a relative inflated worth of

$10.13 as of today.*


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That was after the oil crash then


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Pontology#1010
In 74 it was $8.15


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Pontology#1010
these things are volatile


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
The current minimum wage is $7.25 federally


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reminder that wages haven't really increased sense 2005


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
a 10% difference is a bit of a big deal.


[04-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, though states often set it higher


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
States almost always set it higher tho


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
In 1974 as well as today.


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's the trouble with this.


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Do they enforce them tho


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cost of college has also massively increased since 1971


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Additionally, in the 70s, more businesses paid above minimum.


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Minimum was meant to cover like, farm workers in rural areas.


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, due to horrible creeping bureaucracies


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Pontology#1010
in colleges


[04-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Pontology#1010
That are just parasitic


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not the bureaucracy -- it's the nature of for profit colleges itself


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 public universities are equally affected


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stagnant wages over 40 years isn't good.


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means people can buy less.


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's the reality we are in.


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your dad had more forgiving circumstances with college than a lot of students today. Not ideal circumstances but more forgiving


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Here in Brazil we barely have a cost for entering universities


[04-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The 70s were basically the end of high wages relative to costs.


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I study at one that's even free


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>callforina bad
>jews takeing all my money
>facts arnt racesit


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oof what is this pol mixed with pu


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Pontology#1010
Notice I challenged him with IQ facts


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you challenghed him with correlation but no causation to speak of


[04-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Pontology#1010
The way to counter "jewish nepotism" is "Jews have an average IQ of ~112 according to Wikipedia"


[04-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/101314/what-does-current-cost-living-compare-20-years-ago.asp

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How Does the Current Cost of Living Compare to 20 Years Ago?
Find out how inflation has affected the dollar since 1998, and how the cost of living has changed above and beyond what can be accounted for by inflation.
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[04-Jul-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That doesn't counter it


[04-Jul-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It merely propels forth the notion that they're good at conniving


[04-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
`Government statistics show that while household income has been steadily increasing, it has failed to keep up with the pace of inflation.
In addition, the cost of buying items like houses and automobiles has increased at a rate that outpaces the rise in inflation.`


[04-Jul-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IQ says nothing about empathic tendencies


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
IQ is a shitty way to rate intlegence.


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://som.yale.edu/news/2009/11/why-high-iq-doesnt-mean-youre-smart

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Why a high IQ doesn't mean you're smart
IS GEORGE W. BUSH stupid? It's a question that occupied a good many minds of all political persuasions during his turbulent eight-year presidency. The strict answer is no. Bush's IQ score is estimated to be above 120, which suggests an intelligence in the top 10 per cent of th...
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[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Pontology#1010
>the notion that they're good at conniving
I'm flattered


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Pontology#1010
:plotting:


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok /pol/yp


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Pontology#1010
/pol/ is retarded


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another issue facing america today is people not even being able to find jobs with which to obtain minimum wage


[04-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bring that meme back to the depths of pol whense it came


[04-Jul-20 10:23 PM] Pontology#1010
What, :plotting:? I only use it ironically and to refer to non-jews, poking fun at the meme, like how jreg ironically uses echoes to make fun of echoes


[04-Jul-20 10:23 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2vq2QKBg4A

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[04-Jul-20 10:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazis trying to understand class conflict in capitalism be like

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[04-Jul-20 10:24 PM] Pontology#1010
kek


[04-Jul-20 10:29 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm reposting this

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[04-Jul-20 10:30 PM] Pontology#1010
It may be a commie meme but it's a good one


[04-Jul-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman if you're interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI

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[04-Jul-20 10:30 PM] jlun2#8758
tldr we're likely not smarter just moved our targets + increased focus on education


[04-Jul-20 10:31 PM] Pontology#1010
Better nutrition is probably a primary reason


[04-Jul-20 10:31 PM] Pontology#1010
People 100 years ago were inches shorter than they are today


[04-Jul-20 10:31 PM] Pontology#1010
same genes, but on average much shorter due to worse nutritition


[04-Jul-20 10:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@jlun2 the us needs to upgrade its public school system tho. Its fallen apart


[04-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/04/887257243/2-people-injured-after-vehicle-careens-into-protesters-in-seattle

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2 People Injured After Vehicle Careens Into Protesters In Seattle
Police have the driver in custody, but no motive has been given. Videos on social media depict the vehicle apparently swerving into a group of protesters on a freeway overnight.
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[04-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Pontology#1010
Is that the one where the protestors were literally blocking the freeway?


[04-Jul-20 10:44 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Don't. They'll mute.


[04-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Wait


[04-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Pontology#1010
:wheeze:


[04-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Pontology#1010
This is hilarious. So apparently police were blocking entrance to the freeway to protect the abolish-the-police protestors


[04-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Pontology#1010
And some guy went around the police blockage


[04-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Pontology#1010
and then couldn't avoid the anti-police protestors blocking the freeway _whom the police were protecting_


[04-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Pontology#1010
The car was screeching on its brakes. It's not like it was intentional.


[04-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Pontology#1010
The only thing that was intentional was disobeying the police.


[04-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Pontology#1010
The irony is too much.


[04-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
it's within your rights in the US to protest on the street, but there are laws which make it illegal to hit someone on the street


[04-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
it is legal to protest on the street


[04-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
it is illegal to hit protesters protesting on the street


[04-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Pontology#1010
Sure, but if you're on the freeway, well – "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes"


[04-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Pontology#1010
It's hard to avoid people when they're forming a human chain across literally the whole freeway


[04-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Pontology#1010
Technically, _impossible to avoid_


[04-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
if you watched the video, they didn't actually form a chain


[04-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Look, if you're implying he purposefully hit protestors, I have serious doubts


[04-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
if you watched the video, you'd also know that he went around cars blocking the lanes as well, there was absolutely nothing normal about his driving


[04-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Pontology#1010
drugs?


[04-Jul-20 10:56 PM] HerdAnon#6614

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[04-Jul-20 10:56 PM] HerdAnon#6614
It is illegal


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] HerdAnon#6614
It is a crime


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Unless you have a permit it is a crime


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
is there a source for calling it a crime?


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and given the police presense, they likely had a permit


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
because according to the constitution, there is no limits on the ability to protest in the US


[04-Jul-20 10:57 PM] HerdAnon#6614
https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2016/09/is-it-legal-for-protesters-to-block-traffic.html

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Is It Legal for Protesters to Block Traffic?
Find a local lawyer and free legal information at FindLaw.com
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[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
I mean an actual law


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] HerdAnon#6614

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[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Yes, read.


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is the law?


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
depends on the state, it looks like. They probably each have their own version.


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Civil disturbance, impeding traffic.


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it only says there are laws regarding it, it doesnt state the law itself


[04-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well this is about a specific incident.


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is the state the incident took place in?


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
it was in seattle


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
What is the state's law?


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
so washington state


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Seattle


[04-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is that state's law in line with SCOTUS precedent?


[04-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@HerdAnon it being legal or illegal doesnt fucking matter


[04-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Dont run over people protesting


[04-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.aclu-wa.org/docs/know-your-rights-guide-protests

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Know Your Rights Guide: Protests
This guide covers the legal protections you have while protesting or otherwise exercising your free speech rights in public places. Although some of the legal principles are firmly established, as with many areas of law, free speech law is complex and continually developing.
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[04-Jul-20 11:02 PM] HerdAnon#6614
@Gordon Freeman  no shit, but they were saying it was legal. Stick with the covo bro.


[04-Jul-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jtXAP06qzA

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2 Women Hit By Car on Seattle Highway Closed Amid Protests
Two women were struck by a car whose driver sped through a protest-related closure on a freeway, authorities said early Saturday.

One suffered life-threatening injuries and the other had serious injuries, Washington State Patrol spokesperson Trooper Rick Johnson tweeted. The ...
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[04-Jul-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
dude swerved into the shoulder lane to go around cars blocking the street and hit people behind the cars


[04-Jul-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
there was nothing normal about his driving, police already said he didn't seem impaired


[04-Jul-20 11:04 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Basically, you have the right, just make sure you get a permit. Like a gun, there's limits.


[04-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
given that the police were barricading the freeway instead of arresting the protesters, it's likely they had a permit


[04-Jul-20 11:04 PM] HerdAnon#6614
He also couldn't see the protesters, they were behind the vehicle.


[04-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
you don't understand, he went through the shoulder to get around the cars blocking the normal lanes


[04-Jul-20 11:05 PM] HerdAnon#6614
@Crow they didn't, the police blocked it off because they kept illegally doing it


[04-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
alright, prove it


[04-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
and even then that doesn't take away from the fact he actually had to go out of his way to hit those protesters, even if he couldn't see them


[04-Jul-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
because any reasonable person would slow the fuck down if they saw a bunch of cars stopped on the freeway with people standing around


[04-Jul-20 11:07 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm not defending hitting someone. Understand that. I'm saying that people should not get into the street and instead go somewhere the gov is forced to hear, like the gov building or homes.


[04-Jul-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"oh 2 cars on the freeway, maybe it was an accident, let me just speed up here to get a good look."


[04-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
The street is considered the most public of places, and the most ideal for protesting.


[04-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Going into a gov't building tends to disrupt gov't business, which is the main reason that protests are forced out of places.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
I fail to see how what the protestors did was illegal.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
The driver is in the wrong, and the protestors in the right.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
They were exercising their 1st amendment rights.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Honestly this kind of discrediting protests is what got us into the riots in the first place.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yes and this appears to be the same shit as last nite.


[04-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
Where a guy was saying the protestors were wrong because they put themselves at risk.


[04-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like it's all just trying to say "protests bad" but in more words.


[04-Jul-20 11:12 PM] HerdAnon#6614
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynorthwest.com/1961268/washington-state-patrol-plans-to-keep-shutting-down-i-5-for-protesters/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.king5.com/amp/article/news/local/both-directions-of-i-5-closed-through-seattle-due-to-protesters/281-bb98c6cd-cee9-4e62-9bc7-6ed62cc60742
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynorthwest.com/1973919/washington-state-patrol-i5-protesters/amp/
https://patch.com/washington/seattle/wsp-investigating-i-5-road-rage-shooting
Basically the police shut it down because these people kept breaking the law, so to avoid another rager or accident by drivers they shut it down. The protest was not legal. This does not justify hitting them. Again, this is a GOVERNMENT problem. Systematic racism and police brutality, showing the government doesn't really support is what will help the movement.

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Washington State Patrol plans to keep shutting down I-5 for protests
As long as the CHOP area is alive and well on Capitol Hill, you should expect I-5 closures any time protesters decide to march to the West Precinct.
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Both directions of I-5 reopen again through downtown Seattle after ...
Both directions of I-5 are reopen again through downtown Seattle after nearby protests. Check WSDOT for traffic updates.
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Washington State Patrol says it hasn't 'surrendered' I-5 to protesters
Why is the State Patrol allowing protesters onto I-5 in Seattle and closing the freeway for their protection? First, understand this is a unique time.
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WSP Investigating I-5 Road Rage Shooting
Troopers are hoping to find witnesses who saw the shooting in downtown Seattle Tuesday.
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[04-Jul-20 11:12 PM] byte[]#2610
warc do you ever just like, stop chomping at the bit at anything that is even slightly out of line with your worldview


[04-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Basically the police shut it down because these people kept breaking the law, so to avoid another rager or accident by drivers they shut it down."
There is no hekkler's veto.


[04-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump continuing to ignore blm and not want any cop reform is how we got here.


[04-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is fundamental US jurisprudence that a protest is not allowed to be shut down because of the [expected] reaction to it.


[04-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
To do so is to allow angry mobs to silence people, a key tactic of fascism.


[04-Jul-20 11:13 PM] HerdAnon#6614
It was again, not a legal protest.


[04-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav failed to establish how it was not legal.


[04-Jul-20 11:14 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I have provided proof, you choose not to read


[04-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@byte[] yeah i do most times. I go with the flow and try to make a reasonable standing point. But some things are worth dieing on a hill for.


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
All I see is roads being closed.


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the source said nothing about legality


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is standard to allow a protest to happen in the street without problems of cars coming in to hit people.


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does not in any way establish illegality of the protests.


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know what else wasnt legal? Boston people yeeting tea into the sea.


[04-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
In fact it appears the officers involved in this were doing this to protect the protests.


[04-Jul-20 11:16 PM] HerdAnon#6614
https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2016/09/is-it-legal-for-protesters-to-block-traffic.html

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Is It Legal for Protesters to Block Traffic?
Find a local lawyer and free legal information at FindLaw.com
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[04-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
They chose it rather than consider preventing the protests.


[04-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Nebbie#8545
You havn't established traffic blokking.


[04-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Legal or not we need to listen to these people and action needs to be done now.


[04-Jul-20 11:16 PM] HerdAnon#6614
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/890689/what-us-protestors-can-and-cannot-do-according-to-the-aclu/amp/

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What US protestors can and cannot do, according to the ACLU
Know your rights.
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[04-Jul-20 11:17 PM] HerdAnon#6614
>Legal or not we need to listen to these people and action needs to be done now.
That's not the conversation caw


[04-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The protests did not cut off traffic, and the police were closing roads to try to prevent problems.


[04-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Your sources appear to consider this cowardice on the part of the police.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But it's what it should be about.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
You hav not established that anything illegal was done by the protestors.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] HerdAnon#6614
The police closed roads because the protest were blocking traffic causing problems


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Oh well caw


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is not what the police said.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Please stop misrepresenting your sources.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The protesters are just the driver is in the wrong.


[04-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police said it was the lesser of 2 evils, the alternative being to hav to be there making damn sure everyone plays by the rules.


[04-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Legal doesnt equal just or unust


[04-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is true, but the protestors did nothing illegal from what I can see, either.


[04-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
The police made a decision to help the protestors out by closing roads to traffic so that the roads could be used to demonstrate safely.


[04-Jul-20 11:20 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Jesus caw could you stay on point.

> The police said it was the lesser of 2 evils, the alternative being to hav to be there making damn sure everyone plays by the rules.
There's also the fact the police couldn't keep them off the road as they kept coming back, so it was probably easier.


[04-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/obstruct-pedestrian-or-vehicular-traffic

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Define Obstruct pedestrian or vehicular traffic. means to walk, stand, sit, lie, or place an object in such a manner as to block passage by another person or a vehicle, or to require another person or a driver of a vehicle to take evasive action to avoid physical contact. Acts...


[04-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's easier and safer in every regard, that is the entire point.


[04-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.codepublishing.com/WA/DuPont/html/DuPont09/DuPont0917.html


[04-Jul-20 11:21 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Doesn't make it legal


[04-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
It does not make it illegal.


[04-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something is only illegal when there is a law it breaks.


[04-Jul-20 11:22 PM] HerdAnon#6614
And it was


[04-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
You keep saying that, but that does not make it true.


[04-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
The protestors did not stop people from driving thru.


[04-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:ponythinking:


[04-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you do not actually blokk a vehicle as it comes up to you, you are not obstructing vehicular traffic.


[04-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
The definition above specifies that you would be blokking passage or requiring evasive action to be obstructing.


[04-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you move out of the way as the vehicle approaches, you are therefore not, by that definition, obstructing traffic.


[04-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you cant park cars like that on highway

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[04-Jul-20 11:25 PM] HerdAnon#6614
One sec


[04-Jul-20 11:26 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I was going to get a actual lawyer in here, but he said you'd dox him.

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[04-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
wut


[04-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
And no, you can't park those cars like that, but that doesn't make the people standing in the wrong. The police should move those cars and go after the owners of them.


[04-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yea they should but those protestors would probably just ignore cops cause u know, ACAB cops bad disobey em


[04-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
The cops can tow the vehicles...


[04-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But would those protesters let them do it peacefully?


[04-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's highly speculative.


[04-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Maybe


[04-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
IMO cops trying to avoid protestors that gathering in large groups to not start a shitshow


[04-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Reginald#0534
No matter waht, happy 4th july, amerifags


[04-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Crow#5457
coming up with hypotheticals isn't very useful when what already happened, happened


[04-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Reginald#0534
I don't really know what to say about it anymore


[04-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Reginald#0534
Everyone failed.


[04-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yea but that wont return 2 ppl from the dead

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[04-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And that dude would probably go to jail for at least 5 years


[04-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
driver dude


[04-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Reginald#0534
The driver, for getting mad ass crazy and murderous. The protestors, for blocking a road when if it doesn't have to be illegal is dangerous. The police, for not being there. But who failed the most? The politicians, for allowing such a civil unrest to happen in the first place.


[04-Jul-20 11:44 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah

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[04-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
neither of them have died so far

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[04-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
one is in critical condition, the other is seriously injured but stable

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[04-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
you underestimate how absurdly resilient humans are compared to animals


[04-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
there's certain weak spots that mean instant or near-instant death, but humans can tank general trauma absurdly well compared to other animals


[04-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
... I think you reacted to the wrong line

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[04-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Reginald#0534
I've heard, if you go numb you have higher chance to survive


[04-Jul-20 11:48 PM] Reginald#0534
That indeed happens to me


[04-Jul-20 11:48 PM] HerdAnon#6614
People can survive if they don't tense up apparently


[04-Jul-20 11:49 PM] HerdAnon#6614
If he has a head injury it could require relearning movement.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Reginald#0534
Oh, yes! You're right!


[04-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
that's why drunk drivers tend to survive crashes where the other driver dies


[04-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Reginald#0534
When you tense up you get all torn inside.


[04-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
because they're way more relaxed


[04-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Reginald#0534
But when you're chilling you may lose a part of body but generally speaking your worst enemy is becoming a jar of jam or loosing too much blood.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 PM] HerdAnon#6614
After you've been in a cast, or unmoving for days, your body locks up. It's terrific. You fear you'll never move again or that the pain trying to moving will be there forever.

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[04-Jul-20 11:50 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Terrible stuff


[04-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Reginald#0534
Well, good thing those two are alife, but their lifes are ruined.


[04-Jul-20 11:50 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Sadly


[04-Jul-20 11:51 PM] Reginald#0534
I had only my foot torn and it's weather sensitive


[05-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.mainichi.jp/vol1/2020/04/03/20200403p2g00m0in006000p/8.jpg?2

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[05-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Putin looks like this in 2020


[05-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine him 16 years from now


[05-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/04/38/97/54/1440x810_cmsv2_5798bc13-74b2-533c-a11f-9732ed7b22b3-4389754.jpg

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[05-Jul-20 12:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
>16 years
>he looks the same
>remains president forever


[05-Jul-20 12:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:scared:


[05-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
His hair has obviously greyed, and his skin is more wrinkled.


[05-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Reginald#0534
KGB officers don't age


[05-Jul-20 12:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
Putin glows in the dark.


[05-Jul-20 12:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
that's how you know he has nukes.


[05-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/us/politics/trump-statues-american-heroes.html

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Trump Says He Will Create a Statuary Park Honoring ‘American Heroes...
The executive order includes John Adams, Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King Jr. among those who would be honored. So would Billy Graham, Antonin Scalia and Ronald Reagan.
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[05-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Countering those tearing down statues of the founders by building more.


[05-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a good July 4 after all.


[05-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cool where was he when all the other world leaders showed up for ww1 memorial survvises in france in 2018 I think it was?


[05-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh right he didn't show up beacuse rain


[05-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Pontology#1010
:based:


[05-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also how much is this park going to cost mr i will elemate a percentage of the us debt in 8 years


[05-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Pontology#1010
negligible relative to the monstrosity of our daily increasing deficit


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is FDR not on the list


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
FDR was one of the worst presidents


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
He confiscated the nation's privately held gold by government force


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
He was the most authoritarian of any president


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Even tried to pack the supreme court by increasing the number of justices


[05-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Pontology#1010
To which in response even his own party rebuked him


[05-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He pulled us out of a Depression and won WWII


[05-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Pontology#1010
No


[05-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So we be ignoreing him beating ww2 and the great depresion then?


[05-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Pontology#1010
The only thing that got us out of the depression was WWII


[05-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Certainly not his policies of confiscating the nation's riches and selling them to foreign banks


[05-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Pontology#1010
(Which is exactly what he did with the private gold he stole)


[05-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like how you don't mention Japanese internment in your negatives


[05-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"internment" is a funny word too


[05-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were concentration camps.


[05-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, but people in english associate that word with the death camps of nazi germany


[05-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Pontology#1010
pretty big difference


[05-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Concentration camps are not death camps


[05-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah but most people don't know the difference


[05-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If not FDR, why not JFK?


[05-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Pontology#1010
He would be fine. Set out the mission to get us to the moon. Managed his duties as a president well.


[05-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That doesn't really change much tbh


[05-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There is a diffrence and that should be noted


[05-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Pontology#1010

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[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Pontology#1010
This is what most people think of


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not Malcom X? Why not Harvey Milk? Why not Cesar Chavez?


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
` the Founding Fathers, those who fought for the abolition of slavery or participated in the underground railroad, heroes of the United States Armed Forces, recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor or Presidential Medal of Freedom, scientists and inventors, entrepreneurs, civil rights leaders, missionaries and religious leaders, pioneers and explorers, police officers and firefighters killed or injured in the line of duty, labor leaders, advocates for the poor and disadvantaged, opponents of national socialism or international socialism, former Presidents of the United States and other elected officials, judges and justices, astronauts, authors, intellectuals, artists, and teachers.`


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>opponents of national socialism or international socialism


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So no Woody Guthrie statue?


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Malcolm X was a black separatist. It's too bad he didn't get his way.


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Those who fought for the abolition of slavery


[05-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Fucking Henry Clay


[05-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Pontology#1010
I think he should be honored and blacks should have a separate nation. NFL is already implementing two national anthems. We should just be done with the balkanization and blacks should have a separate nation that they run themselves.


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Our current national anthem talks about killing slaves for resisting slavery.


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Pontology#1010
No, it has a line about killing slaves _who defected to the british side_


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_To escape slavery_


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you think they decided to join the British for fun or something?


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Pontology#1010
And opposed American independence


[05-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The British _promised them their freedom_


[05-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
It's about the intent of the line. It's not "kill them for resisting slavery", it's "kill them for fighting against American independence"


[05-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
_or they would kill us first_


[05-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
_Because it's a war, you know?_


[05-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Pontology#1010
James Madison was right that blacks would never be able to get along with whites. Upon emancipation, they would always feel "secretly confederated against", as he predicted.


[05-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wouldn't want American independence if it meant being a slave


[05-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Pontology#1010
"Always viewing it as a transition from one form of oppression to another"


[05-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that 4 years before the Declaration of Independence, courts in England banned slavery


[05-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Pontology#1010
and shortly after it, many northern states banned slavery


[05-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The founding fathers were mostly slaveholders who wanted to maintain their property


[05-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From the South


[05-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Jefferson wrote vehemently against slavery, calling it an "indelible stain" upon the nation


[05-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet he raped his slaves and didn't free his own kids when he died.


[05-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Pontology#1010
He's not honored for owning slaves


[05-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyway, our anthem should be "This Land is Your Land"


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Pontology#1010
He's honored for his ideals that have increasingly come to fruition


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's patriotic, easy to sing, modern, and secular


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything you need


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking No, that's clearly a white supremacist song because it's not your land, it's the natives' land 🤡


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Pontology#1010
It's white supremacist


[05-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Yoxer#9902
I mean, a lot of it _is_ the natives' land


[05-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Can blacks just form their own separate nation already like Malcolm X wanted


[05-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Yoxer#9902
legit why


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
seems easier to just, like, improve race relations


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
like most other countries


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Pontology#1010
They hate our national anthem, they hate our founders, they increasingly oppose celebration of July 4


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe it's just the media and NFL


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
"they"


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
dude


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whole lotta "they"


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
no race is a monolith


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_to_the_Slave_Is_the_Fourth_of_July%3F

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[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Yoxer#9902
no group of people period is a monolith


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Yep, what @Itsthinking posted


[05-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Pontology#1010
And that still applies today in the mind of many


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why shouldn't it?


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is why the NFL will now play two national anthems


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
the Black National Anthem, and the American Anthem


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
On July 4, 1776, black people could be property.


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Because **we're two separate nations** apparently


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
With two separate national anthems


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
So let's be done with it and separate completely like Malcolm X wanted.


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
December 6 or June 19 should be federal holidays in lieu of Columbus day


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Yoxer#9902
disagreeing on what the national anthem should be doesn't revoke your citizenship


[05-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure that's what Malcom X wanted.


[05-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Yoxer#9902
the entire reason some people want to change the national anthem is because they feel it's their country in the first place


[05-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Yoxer#9902
otherwise they'd just fuck off


[05-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1963-malcolm-x-racial-separation/

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(1963) Malcolm X, "Racial Separation" •
On October 11, 1963, Malcolm X gave a speech at the University of California, Berkeley, in which he outlined the philosophy of black nationalism as promoted by the Nation of Islam and declared racial separatism as the best approach to the problems facing black America.  … Read...
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[05-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Malcom X recant most of that stuff after he went on Hajj?


[05-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure that's why he was assassinated to begin with


[05-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk reservations? Sounds like a bad idea.


[05-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Not reservations. Black nationalism.


[05-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Like Liberia, a black-only nation.


[05-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But what does it hav to do with the anthem?


[05-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up "Bantustan" @Pontology


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Yoxer#9902
why would anyone ever want to model their country after liberia


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, apparently our national anthem is "racist" and now blacks have their own Black National Anthem


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Pontology#1010
So we're increasingly functionally two separate nations, complete with two separate national anthems


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lift Every Voice And Sing has been used for generations


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the anthem in the constitution?


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Yoxer#9902
honestly, national symbols are overblown at times imo


[05-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Yoxer#9902
I get their importance _as a symbol_ but beyond that they don't really mean anything


[05-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure I understand what is being said about anthems by you, @Pontology.


[05-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
What exactly are people saying about the current anthem and racism?


[05-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why do we need a blakk-specific one, rather than just grabbing a new non-racist one?


[05-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Pontology#1010
that it's racist because it has a line about killing slaves who defected to the British side


[05-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see.


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then just use a non-racist one.


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgOH_tq7-Q

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Jedediah Ben-Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgOH_tq7-Q
Lift Every Voice and Sing with Lyrics
Things understood need no explanation. This was sung by and for #ADOS. Just like the Bible was written by and for #Israelites. #ADOS and #DOS are #Israelites according to history and the Bible.
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[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I actually like how this sounds


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not racist though


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There doesn't need to be two anthems to fix things.


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Yoxer#9902
tbh why not just replace the line


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
It reflected the reality of slavery at the time, and that the reality of war that you kill people fighting on the enemy's side


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Yoxer#9902
can't be that hard


[05-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
I would support this


[05-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Doubt it would appease the situation, though.


[05-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Pontology#1010
We're balkanizing.


[05-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Yoxer#9902
you keep saying that but black and white communities in America have been growing closer together, if albeit at a very slow rate, for a while now


[05-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Yoxer#9902
as much is evident by the progression of civil rights, but also by the increase in interracial couples, acceptance of both races in media, etc.


[05-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Even if that line weren't there, the song would still be called racist just for effectively not caring about the black slaves, since American independence didn't extend to blacks until Juneteenth


[05-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[05-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
"simp" and "fam".


[05-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No refuge could save the traitors that day"


[05-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There, fixed


[05-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology oh hey look its the bullshit that got us to the point of riots in the first place


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've noticed that "simp" and "fam" became popular in the last year in online culture.


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For the love of god just reform the police


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"fam" perhaps 2 years ago.


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the traitors that day
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.`


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
"simp" more recently


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
These words are AAVE in origin.


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking 👍 let's do it


[05-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Honahue#0656
fam's been popular for awhile simp is just reskinned "white knight"


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the way they are entering people's vocabularies is not thru an understanding of such.


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Yoxer#9902
I feel like simp differs a bit from white knight


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, white people think these are white words.


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Yoxer#9902
white knight definitely has a defensive connotation, i.e. rushing to the defense of a woman


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh Canada used to be "Our home and native land, true patriot love in all thy sons command"


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now it is "in all of us command"


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
This suggests the internet is accidentally destroying cultural borders by race.


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Pontology#1010
@Gordon Freeman Nobody supports police brutality. But the protestors can't figure out what the hell they want. You say "reform". The NYT says "abolish". https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

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Opinion | Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police
Because reform won’t happen.
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[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can find "simp" in Baby Got Back btw


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Yoxer#9902
the new york times is a joke


[05-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"A lot of simps won't like this song"


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Yoxer#9902
they shouldn't be taken as representative of any group frankly


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
all popular internet lingo starts with AAVE then gets picked up by the LGBT communities then gets picked up by drunk white girls before becoming normalized


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like nobody white heard "simp" from it when it was a popular song.


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
They just ignored it.


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait, "simp" is from AAVE?


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the internet uses AAVE grammar in memes a lot, but that's older and with the intent of portraying stupidity.


[05-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So is "fam"


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Pontology#1010
_Based._


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Pontology#1010
:laughfilly:


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
you can trick a democrat to believe anything if you start the sentence with y'all


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Yoxer#9902
y'all need to _do better_


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Yoxer#9902
y'all _can't behave_


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Yoxer#9902
y'all need to _listen_


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Yoxer#9902
y'all need to _sit down_


[05-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Yoxer#9902
twitter in four lines


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Yoxer#9902
it figures as much that the type of people who want e-fame, especially by putting in as little effort as virtue-signaling, would also be passive aggressive fuckwads


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Virtue signaling" has long been meaningless.


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Karen" is coming close.


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
English already has a plural you tho but it's only used natively in some parts of the UK mostly by older people


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Isn't "you" the plural and "thou/thee" the singular?


[05-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
not quite


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
ye is plural formal


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
...how is virtue signaling meaningless?


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
seems pretty straight forward to me


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
thee thou is informal


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Pontology#1010
ah


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because it's gotten to the point where anyone saying anything about what they believe is virtue signaling


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
oh


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
you mean how it's _used_


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
yeah


[05-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Yoxer#9902
some people feel that expressing any opinion is virtue signaling


[05-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
it can get even more complicated then that but the KJV preserved Greek's singular plural you's with thee and thou cause god refers to everyone informally


[05-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
KJV is more a political instrument than an accurate Bible


[05-Jul-20 01:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but I'm not really worried about that if you want a bible that gets into the weeds of ancient Canaanite religion Oxford annotated NRSV would be the thing to get


[05-Jul-20 01:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ezekiel 23:20


[05-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, sucks that all the cool biblican names aren't used much any more


[05-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Pontology#1010
^


[05-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Bible basically functions in part as a repository of names


[05-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
is that the Donkey dicked verse?


[05-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Genesis is a geneology


[05-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Honahue#0656
people do get biblical names just mostly in Jewish communities


[05-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[05-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That verse is a metaphor too


[05-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology ah so one opion arical means we all want abolishement. Except for it not meaning that. Thats just one reporter not the entre protesters.


[05-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Yoxer#9902
> people do get biblical names just mostly in Jewish communities
can confirm, have biblical name, am not jewish, people think I'm jewish _constantly_


[05-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Honahue#0656
that verse is a metaphor for women wanted to get a satisfying dicking down


[05-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also never mind the trade deffict that is also trumps fault, look at the broken promises of trump


[05-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/donald-trump-promises-kept/index.html

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A politician who actually does what he told voters he would do seems almost unfathomable in Washington, a town of broken promises. For Donald Trump, being a president who delivers is especially crucial, since it's one of the golden keys to his so far unbreakable bond with supp...
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[05-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah yes the jewruslam thing


[05-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Whats the word the right came up with for that?


[05-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh yeah, vuture singling


[05-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Changing the us recongided captal from telaviv to jewruslam does fuck all


[05-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Pontology#1010
> As promised, he has moved to renegotiate NAFTA, pulled out of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, walked out of the Paris climate accord, targeted the Iran nuclear deal and introduced a travel ban for residents of some majority Muslim nations, while adopting other radical immigration policies.


[05-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Was it worth 6 trillion dollars in debt


[05-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And the wall bullshit that was not payed by Mexico


[05-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The iran back out and the pairs back out where massive fuck ups


[05-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Honahue#0656
Mexico recently closed the border with the US cause we've become a nation of plague bearing rats

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[05-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So not really mission accomplished there


[05-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[05-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe becoming a nation of plague-bearing rats is a big-brained way to keep people out


[05-Jul-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the nuclear deal with iran was actually working out well until trump tore it to shreds and tried to force them into signing one with his name on it


[05-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse they dont want to die


[05-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Pontology#1010

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[05-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And if that is the trade off millions of deaths are at trumps hands for his covid 19 fuck up


[05-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You did it usa


[05-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You burned your own country down to stop Mexican immigration :wheeze: :bigbrain: :twismug: :sapphdab:


[05-Jul-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
can't have illegal immigrants if there's no country for them to immigrate to

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[05-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Worth it


[05-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok but srsly no


[05-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes, when nationalism decides to destroy the nation to preserve the nation.

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[05-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Honahue#0656
burning your own house down to  make your lib neighbors choke on the smoke


[05-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Owning the sjw libtards by seting yourself on fire


[05-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Like those Buddhists


[05-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Immolation is a pretty ballsy form of protest.


[05-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Honahue#0656
those buddhist were sjw's tho


[05-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Sjw bad trump good echo chamber good media bad


[05-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:bigbrain:


[05-Jul-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instructions unclear, Trump now uses echo location to get around the media


[05-Jul-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gettysburg-antifa-flag-burning-hoax-dupes-right-wing-protesters-2020-7

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Despite local news outlets and independent fact checkers debunking claims of a flag burning planned for July 4th, some protesters still showed up.
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[05-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/04/us/texas-hospitals-coronavirus/index.html

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[05-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/coronavirus-evidence-growing-houston-strain-mutant-15386157.php

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Evidence growing that Houston's main coronavirus strain is more con...
Evidence is growing that a mutated coronavirus strain, the main one circulating in the Houston area, is more contagious than the original virus in China.
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[05-Jul-20 01:57 AM] jlun2#8758
.qa @Nebbie Ah yes, when nationalism decides to destroy the nation to preserve the nation.


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[05-Jul-20 01:58 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Thanks America. We really needed a mutated version in the world.


[05-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
80% of those with the virus hav a more infectious strain


[05-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
and a shitton of people hav it.


[05-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas is screwed.


[05-Jul-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought it was msotly New York? or is it finally spreading to not-NYC?


[05-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Honahue#0656
it's picking up in the states that tried to reopen


[05-Jul-20 02:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
it has been spreading across the us for a while.


[05-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
New York had it bad initially, but now barely has it.


[05-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Texas, California, and Florida hav it really bad this time.


[05-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Much of the South reopened too early and people aren't wearking masks, so it's sweeping.


[05-Jul-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was only a matter of time before it'd start hitting counties with only one hospital to serve 5 towns


[05-Jul-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
If coronavirus disproportionately kills the poor, the nation's wealth per capita will increase


[05-Jul-20 02:04 AM] Pontology#1010
This is a good path forward.

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[05-Jul-20 02:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, this is a very communistic plan because killing the poor will decrease wealth inequality


[05-Jul-20 02:06 AM] jlun2#8758
I thought almost no one goes there except truckers?


[05-Jul-20 02:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tell me that was a shit post


[05-Jul-20 02:09 AM] Pontology#1010
What, killing the poor? :anondab:


[05-Jul-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Waste of resources.


[05-Jul-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not simply _eat_ the poor?


[05-Jul-20 02:10 AM] Pontology#1010
they have poor people AIDS


[05-Jul-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Poor foreplanning


[05-Jul-20 02:10 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah so it is shit posting


[05-Jul-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have the poor use the poor as compost in order to feed the poor, cull a percentage and eat those


[05-Jul-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just A Modest Proposal


[05-Jul-20 02:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I only wanted to decrease wealth inequality. My intentions in killing the poor were good, right? :shrug:


[05-Jul-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[05-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahah nice.


[05-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Pontology#1010
(The actual account of the uk gov is @govuk)


[05-Jul-20 02:16 AM] Pontology#1010
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/505886-kaepernick-on-july-fourth-we-reject-your-celebration-of-white

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Former NFL star and activist Colin Kaepernick marked July Fourth by sharing a video of actor James Earl Jones reciting Frederick Douglass's historic speech, "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July" with Kaepernick calling
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[05-Jul-20 02:16 AM] Pontology#1010
July 4 = white supremacy


[05-Jul-20 02:16 AM] jlun2#8758
cant wait for the twitter mob to go nuts


[05-Jul-20 02:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Can we just separate into two separate nations already?


[05-Jul-20 02:17 AM] Pontology#1010
They'll be trying to cancel July 4 now


[05-Jul-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
china & russia will go :glowing_eyes:  tho


[05-Jul-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Liberia's capital is named Monrovia, in honor of James Monroe who proposed freed slaves go back to Africa. If even Independence Day is "white supremacist" now, can these people just go to Liberia already.


[05-Jul-20 02:19 AM] Pontology#1010
That's why Liberia exists: as a safe haven for oppressed blacks to go to. A country of their own.


[05-Jul-20 02:20 AM] Pontology#1010
There is literally no way they will stop being oppressed.


[05-Jul-20 02:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Since even July 4 is "white supremacist" now.


[05-Jul-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> moving
thats irl crap ew


[05-Jul-20 02:22 AM] jlun2#8758
politics is for online only :twiright:


[05-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not saying blacks should go back to Africa, to be clear. But these ones who say "July 4 is white supremacist".


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Pontology#1010
They should go to Liberia, specifically made for people like them to escape this horrible ""white supremacist"" oppression of July 4.


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So anyone who disagrees with society should be thrown out?


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did you even read what I posted before


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems pretty fascist to me.


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least some kind of authoritarian.


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very contrary to the idea of a democracy with a right to free speech.


[05-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Pontology#1010
No, they should voluntary go somewhere they won't be oppressed by this ""white supremacy"". A country specifically made by and for black Americans.


[05-Jul-20 02:24 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/social-media-blackout-enthralled-instagram-did-it-do-anything-n1230181
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The blackout is the most recent example of why activists and academics greet similar social media efforts — widely known as "slacktivism" — with skepticism and criticism.
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[05-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, separate but equal and pressuring people out.


[05-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Pontology#1010
nations are separate but equal, yes.


[05-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Separate but equal is inherently unequal.


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[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is why SCOTUS ruled it's not okay.


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking The reason "separate but equal" was wrong was that resources were unequally allocated by the whites in power.


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual science showed separating out blakk kids made them perform worse.


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not the case.


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even if they were totally absolutely equal


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In terms of resources


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is still unequal


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The actual ruling showed there was data that even accounting for resources, there were problems for the blakk kids.


[05-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It showed that they *understood* the *reason* for the separation was because they were considered inferior.


[05-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that in and of itself made them perform worse.


[05-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
makes sense


[05-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Doesn't mean that France and Spain being "separate but equal nations" is wrong.


[05-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What


[05-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You don't get forced out of France because you're Spanish ethnically.


[05-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be incredibly shitty to pressure people to go to a country of their ethnicity.


[05-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Doesn't France still treat _pied-noirs_ like shit?


[05-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
If a Spanish person in Spain said that Bastille Day were anti-Spanish


[05-Jul-20 02:28 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm sure people would be telling them to go back to Spain already.


[05-Jul-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Florida poll (right leaning survey)

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[05-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Florida:


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[05-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm in Florida and I'll do it again.


[05-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Sadly, I'm moving to Arizona soon.


[05-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant like 2000.


[05-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
oh


[05-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
jej


[05-Jul-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that would be shitty of those people to say.


[05-Jul-20 02:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I think you mean in *France*.


[05-Jul-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spanish people kinda have a reason to be mad at the French


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[05-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie I'm all for eliminating laws that are racially discriminatory and so forth. I am very much opposed to poisoning the very root of a nation – especially mine – through such absurdities as that "July 4 is white supremacist".


[05-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let people poison it.


[05-Jul-20 02:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you think anyone that disagrees with your interpretation of a country should be forced out?


[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
I never said forced.


[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
That would be highly unconstitutional


[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You just don't want people to disagree with you


[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Honahue#0656
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The Founding Fathers Game: Tear Down or Prop Up?
Historian Harvey Kaye joins Douglas Lain in order to play a game called "Cancelling the Founding Fathers" (also known as "Cancelling Harvey." One by one he judges which of the founders deserve to be torn down and which ones, if any, deserve to be built up. In the end he heaps ...
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[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
But if they hate America so much, they should leave the country they hate


[05-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking No, we need left and right. All that we don't need is those who actively hate America itself.


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Hating America and wanting to tear it does at its roots is not progressive. It's destructive.


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it?


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes.


[05-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How so


[05-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Synfag#9241
you're gonna keep this up are you?


[05-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, I guess if your idea of progressivism includes communist revolutions etc, then it isn't


[05-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Strawman.


[05-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Synfag#9241
and there it is.


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Pontology#1010
What? We're talking about tearing down nations


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
We never called for revolutions, just were saying that disagreement is like, a fundamental right.


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
No we aren't.


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're comparing protests and people not liking things to violent revolutions and tearing down nations.


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are strawmanning.


[05-Jul-20 02:36 AM] Synfag#9241
damned if you do. damned if you don't.
love for country is bad now.


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
People want to change the anthem, clearly they are just communists etc.


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm comparing hating America and wanting to tear it down at its roots to what an implementation of that would look like


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not a rational argument.


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
What? No


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/505886-kaepernick-on-july-fourth-we-reject-your-celebration-of-white

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Kaepernick on July Fourth: 'We reject your celebration of white sup...
Former NFL star and activist Colin Kaepernick marked July Fourth by sharing a video of actor James Earl Jones reciting Frederick Douglass's historic speech, "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July" with Kaepernick calling
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[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm talking about people saying that _Independence Day itself is white supremacist_


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So someone taking the knee is a communist revolution?


[05-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The two hav nothing to do with each other.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is taking up arms to tear apart the country because they think a holiday is racist.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait, are you saying that people taking the knee means they hate America?


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The guy took a knee.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, but you seem to be.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
You claim that people should be given a separate ethnostate over it.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Pontology#1010
They already _have_ a separate ethnostate over it


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
And hav brought up communist revolutions as a thing that would be endorsed by endorsing it.


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Synfag#9241
people these days prefer being alive on their knees


[05-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Honahue#0656
the guy did the least obtrusive protest ever and got black listed from the NFL and a bunch of people telling him to git out of America


[05-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we can't even take a knee to protest things, then it's clear we aren't allowed to disagree.


[05-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Changing our country's anthem or the way it polices things is not tearing the country apart.


[05-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree, and I agree with changing the anthem, such as getting rid of that one line


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
But why not get a new anthem entirely?


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is sacrosanct about having the current one?


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well there's only like one that is good


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not the one we hav.


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Honahue#0656
really should our anthem was written by a brit


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Pontology#1010
I do not agree with "July 4th is celebrating white supremacy", which is poisoning the very origin of the nation


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Pontology#1010
and celebration of independence


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What would you have it be, @Nebbie ?


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] HerdAnon#6614
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Stronger together against the rich.

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[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] HerdAnon#6614
:twiface:


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Honahue#0656
seems odd to have an anthem written by the guys we went to war with


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not entirely sure, but I'd probably choose something celebrating our right to protest.


[05-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was written as a drinking song.


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Synfag#9241
nobody wants to be constantly reminded of John Lennon and Yoko Ono kissing in the end of the *Imagine* music video


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A nation need not celebrate its origin to exist, and certainly not in a particular way.


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Synfag#9241
somebody suggested replacing the anthem with *Imagine*


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
pffft


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay well that's dumb.


[05-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's only one particular suggestion.


[05-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Honahue#0656
that would be terribe


[05-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Pontology#1010
_Battle Hymn of the Republic_ would be a good replacement


[05-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Honahue#0656
kinda goes against the whole seperation of church and state


[05-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Honahue#0656
like a lot


[05-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christian, has no place in our politics.


[05-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
what about that one written by the jew?


[05-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as our anthem isn;t "proud to be an american"


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Wasn't that to keep government out of religion and religion out of government?


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie The original then. John Brown's Body


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Synfag#9241
not everyone could sing that


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh right, _God Bless America_


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
that one


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean it talks about John Brown going to be a soldier in the army of the Lord but


[05-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also wouldn't be popular in Virginia


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] HerdAnon#6614
We play the pokemon theme. That is our song.


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Synfag#9241
I don't see the anthem changing anytime soon


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds good


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Honahue#0656
the pokemon rap


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Pontology#1010
The My Little Pony theme song


[05-Jul-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really knwo why football needs an anthem in the first place but sure

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[05-Jul-20 02:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah I don't get why sports games need the anthem


[05-Jul-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It makes sense at the Olympics


[05-Jul-20 02:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I mean, maybe for like international events


[05-Jul-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at truly international games


[05-Jul-20 02:46 AM] HerdAnon#6614
https://youtu.be/-F7dusD43RE
See, we all like it. Truely a song for all.

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[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] Synfag#9241
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[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Good choice


[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] wren#0114
https://twitter.com/Alpha_Blaster/status/1279551987500101632

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[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
America fuck yeah would be a good replacement


[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr7E1Jx_1ek the new national anthem

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[05-Jul-20 02:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Count dankula is blm now


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Good to finally have him on our side


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Po ke mon!


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Pontology#1010
uh-oh, blm is canceled now


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] HerdAnon#6614
@Gordon Freeman  it's a meme


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Honahue#0656
remember the ending of Rambo 3


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Is he actually blm?


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[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] HerdAnon#6614
He said it was a meme


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] HerdAnon#6614
He supports the idea not the organization


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Meh close enough


[05-Jul-20 02:48 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
most do, it's the organization that people oppose


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
"defund the police" etc


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I think everyone supports the idea


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
everyone but legit white supremacists


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
the reason people dislike it is the demands of the organization


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The organization is pretty dumb. Not to be rude.


[05-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Synfag#9241
or he's doing that thing like in South Park
where the KKK started supporting the opposition so that people would start hating it


[05-Jul-20 02:50 AM] HerdAnon#6614
No?


[05-Jul-20 02:50 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The hell?


[05-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Pontology#1010
what synfag said was kind of my joke when I said "blm is canceled now"


[05-Jul-20 02:50 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Did you miss him chasing off people with his dick meme?


[05-Jul-20 02:54 AM] HerdAnon#6614
He literally had this meme going on because people saw a outline of his dick. People got pissy saying it was gay so he kept doing it


[05-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Pontology#1010
https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1279463720318570497

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[05-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Pontology#1010
He clearly refers to "America" as "you". He does not think of himself as American.


[05-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Pontology#1010
So why should I consider him American either, in any sense but legally?


[05-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Pontology#1010
The background of his video implies opposing the Constitution too.


[05-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a deliberate misinterpretation of pronouns that doesn't even follow basic English grammar conventions.


[05-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, then who is "you"?


[05-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
"You" isn't referring to Americans.


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
"You" is white Americans.


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
"our" refers to blakk Americans.


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Black nationalism ✊


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is saying white Americans enslaved blakk Americans agos ago.


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
We need to separate already


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
He rejects American patriotism


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Rejects Independence Day


[05-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Thinks celebration of America is white supremacist to this day


[05-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm so sick of this.


[05-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/electoral-college-new-states-2016-election/

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[05-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How did Mormons even decide what they wanted Deseret to be


[05-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It just looks like a big blob


[05-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I used to believe that it truly didn't matter what race you were, that anyone can be American. _That's still true on an individual level,_ but race matters so much more than I ever thought. Blakk people rejecting July 4 itself, etc


[05-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's impossible to discuss the life of any American without discussing race.


[05-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're literally just looking for reasons to throw people out by race.


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if white people say to reject the 4th of July for being racist?


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We live in a society where a ZIP code basically preordains you.


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
racial segregation is the only answer apparently\


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do we throw them into the blakks only country?


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell me, if every white NFL player takes a knee


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
pees on the flag during the 4th of July


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Synfag#9241
> We need to separate already

George Lincoln Rockwell and Elijah Muhammad had the same thing in mind
sadly, nobody cared


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Synfag#9241
pfft...


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not an authoritarian. I am anti-authoritarian.


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
and tries to tear down statues of George Washington


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
would you argue for them to be thrown out?


[05-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Pontology#1010
@Synfag it's too bad


[05-Jul-20 03:13 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Here we go. Together song

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[05-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie No, one of our greatest boasts is our freedom of speech. You can pee on the First Amendment and it still protects you.


[05-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Pontology#1010
But if you do so, you should still leave.


[05-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Of your own accord.


[05-Jul-20 03:14 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Only vers i could download


[05-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
And go where, exactly?


[05-Jul-20 03:14 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The caves. Abandon civilization, become dwarf.


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
There are over hundreds options


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
How about the theoretical blakk country you talked about?


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just send the whites there too.


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can enjoy their lakk of racism there.


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Wasn't it africa inviting everyone 'home'?


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
While racist America becomes like, 2 states.


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Pontology#1010
White people suffer racism in some african countries


[05-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
So?


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just segregate on liberal/conservative, clearly.


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cities and such form their own non-racist country


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
go to war


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
kill everyone in the racist country


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen that as a legitimate solution


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bam, new America with non-racist anthems and such.


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sound acceptable?


[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/maybe-its-time-for-america-to-split-up.html

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[05-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whites and blakks that pee on the flag all holding hands singing kumbayah.


[05-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, until they form their CHAZ


[05-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`By 2038, the Progressive Federation of America is being run from a former administrative building on the campus of the University of New Mexico. The federation was initially governed by commissioners appointed by governors and state legislatures. To avoid establishing a permanent bureaucracy, the governors refused to establish a dedicated base, instead rotating its chairmanship across the members for a year at a time. Lobbyists loved having the capital in San Francisco, were less enthused when New York decided it could boost the local economy by chairing its meetings in Buffalo.`


[05-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`The abandoned campus in Albuquerque is an inadvertent monument to one of the Blue Fed’s earliest successes. The federation’s state universities initially integrated to secure basic economies of scope and scale: linking their library collections and banding together in search of greater buying power for their energy needs. After a few years, the states agreed to set in-Fed tuition for all public universities to zero. New Mexico took the boldest step. It dismantled its public-university system after determining it was more efficient to cover travel expenses for New Mexicans studying in California or Colorado than to manage its own schools, even continuing to pay lifetime salaries for its tenured professors when they were placed in jobs at new sister schools. The New Mexico regents decided to deplete the remainder of the university’s $450 million endowment to dramatically increase teacher pay for the state’s primary-school teachers. New Mexico’s public high schools are now seen as some of the country’s finest.`


[05-Jul-20 03:17 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Thing is. We changed the anthem to include god, so... why not change it back?


[05-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Best paragraph in it


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[05-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie To an extent I like your proposition unironically, its tongue-in-cheek aside.


[05-Jul-20 03:19 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I mean, I never really saw the anthem or pledge as racist as I had it described to me peice by peice in school.


[05-Jul-20 03:19 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The under god part was added and unnecessary


[05-Jul-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just found the pledge in school annoyingly cultish


[05-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Pontology#1010
I think almost no-one did until the moral panic of seeing white supremacy in every shadow


[05-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Pontology#1010
And that's what it is: a moral panic


[05-Jul-20 03:20 AM] HerdAnon#6614
@prism stryder(intexda)  well honestly after it's explained it does clear up a few things. Also, I do agree everyone shouldn't be made to do it, but the offer still there.


[05-Jul-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well part of the cultishness is the salute to the flag while doing it which has a "bowing to the holy idol" kind of vibe to it


[05-Jul-20 03:22 AM] HerdAnon#6614
https://youtu.be/nDnXcw6euIE
Here's one. Not my teacher but still he does it well.

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[05-Jul-20 03:22 AM] HerdAnon#6614
@prism stryder(intexda) oh yes, I understand that. That's why it should be encouraged but not forced. It us the right of every American to choose. Young or old.


[05-Jul-20 03:25 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Ignore the self centered cock wagon at the end.


[05-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1279583187556020226

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Video shows protesters in Washington, D.C. burning an American flag. https://t.co/ZVtPY5r5oy
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[05-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
All doing the "black power" symbol


[05-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
burning the American flag on July 4


[05-Jul-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be fair no one forced me to stand for it in high school, i jsut stopped doing it


[05-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Need to form their own black power country already


[05-Jul-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the problem with the pledge these days is it;s no longer about the other things mentioned, the freedom, the people, the liberty. It;s become a pledge of loyalty tot he flag and only the flag


[05-Jul-20 03:28 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah there's no need to burn the flag in my opinion. But it is their right to do so. As my grandfather said, he fought for people to have the right to choose. Even if he didn't agree with them.


[05-Jul-20 03:28 AM] wren#0114
it's called free speech and I'll defend to the death their right to do it

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[05-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Pontology#1010
So will I


[05-Jul-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the flag no ;longer seems to represent america, america now seems to represent the flag


[05-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Still think they should form their own "black power" country if they hate America that much


[05-Jul-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that they hate america, it;s that they want to see racial injustice in america end, so that america may be a better home for everyone


[05-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, and when Iran says "death to America" they just want to see injustice in America end


[05-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Pontology#1010
No, they are literally burning the American flag while doing _black power_ symbols


[05-Jul-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
iran isnt part of this conversation


[05-Jul-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stop strawmanning


[05-Jul-20 03:30 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah, but they're the vocal minority of it. Anyone who says any race should have any power over another, or superiority is a fool and should be ignored.


[05-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Democracy does that though


[05-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
It gives the racial majority power over the racial minorities


[05-Jul-20 03:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
these people aren't middle eastern terrorists, they aren't iranian. They're american citizens trying to improve america in a way that america will actually listen tot hme for once instead of ignoring them


[05-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
:wheeze:


[05-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
I can't believe you're serious


[05-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Pontology#1010
They're literally burning the American flag on July 4 while doing _black power_ symbolism


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
They're not trying to improve America


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
They want black power and they hate America


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
If they didn't hate America they wouldn't be burning our flag


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so the military hates america then?


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I dislike the rioters and looter, I feel they hurt the idea. I find much more convincing someone who does not allow race, to get in the way of their logic. See all as equal, all arguments taken by the merit of the discussion, not skin or person.


[05-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
:facehoof:


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
at kobold


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the military burns flags to dispose of them


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, and that's a respectful way


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Do you think these people are burning the flag in respect to America?


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Please don't bullshit me


[05-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
or waste my time with this comparison


[05-Jul-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok so your interpretation of the first amendment is that if anyone burns the flag in protest, they hate america and should leave?


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[05-Jul-20 03:36 AM] HerdAnon#6614
It's their right to do so. I think they do so with hate in their hearts, but they can do it.


[05-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Supreme Court ruled long ago that flag-burning is protected speech


[05-Jul-20 03:36 AM] wren#0114
bad trump

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[05-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Trump is wrong and was speaking from emotion, not anything actually enforceable


[05-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"It is poignant but fundamental that the flag protects those who hold it in contempt."


[05-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Pontology#1010
agreed


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Pontology#1010
they should still get out, though


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No.


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you;re saying the southern states should secede?


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I find it in poor taste. I feel the message gets twisted. But it's their right.


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're asking them to leave for speaking their mind.


[05-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, I am. If they don't want to leave, they don't have to


[05-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Pontology#1010
But if they hate America, they should leave


[05-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why?


[05-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Just a suggestion.


[05-Jul-20 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they shoudl form a confederacy if you will?


[05-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[05-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Pontology#1010
like CHAZ


[05-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Pontology#1010
an autonomous zone


[05-Jul-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7 we should just do this apparently

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[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Pontology#1010
All of those places believe in being American and being under the Constitution


[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but withy different views of how it should be done


[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all of thme likely disagreeing with eachother


[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Pontology#1010
CHAZ did not. It's why they called themselves an autonomous zone, separating from the United States.


[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Pontology#1010
There is huge room for disagreement under the Constitution


[05-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Pontology#1010
and that's good


[05-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Pontology#1010
But if you oppose the jurisdiction of the United States itself, do what CHAZ did


[05-Jul-20 03:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but disagreeing with you in a way you dont like is bad


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[05-Jul-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america should become mexico!


[05-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Mexican irredentists want this


[05-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico)

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[05-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a serious idea there


[05-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
And they're implementing it through mass migration, turning what used to be Mexico back into Mexico


[05-Jul-20 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we could stand to lose some weight


[05-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/505893-kanye-tweets-hes-running-for-president

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[05-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Kanye, go home, you're drunk


[05-Jul-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"Why you laughing?" :wheeze:


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Did you say "we" implying you're American?


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Why do you have an Irish flag?


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[05-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
wait


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
oh


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
:derp:


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
he confused the orange names.


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm racist against orange


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
good I too hate the Dutch

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[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Day of the Clog will come


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Antagonista#8566
>these people aren't middle eastern terrorists, they aren't iranian. They're american citizens trying to improve america in a way that america will actually listen tot hme for once instead of ignoring them


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Antagonista#8566
yep, totally


[05-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Antagonista#8566

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[05-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Honahue#0656
remember when Kaperneak kneeled before some football games to protest police violence like 4 years ago and he lost his job and had a billion dollar news network shitting on him, pretty clearly people were ignored so what did you expect to happen


[05-Jul-20 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They tried the peaceful option, it failed


[05-Jul-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Now they're trying the non-peaceful option and now you notice the fuck out of them


[05-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Antagonista#8566
aha, so now you are backpedalling on your claim about improval though


[05-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Honahue#0656
no


[05-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Antagonista#8566
cause aping out and causing carnage is not that.


[05-Jul-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how was that a back pedal?


[05-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Antagonista#8566
you don't have to be apologetic, i'm perfectly in agreement with the causality here


[05-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Boston Tea Party was extremely careful to not destroy anything but the tea itself. They had to break a lock, and they replaced the lock at their own expense. There was no random destruction of anything.


[05-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Antagonista#8566
of them being ignored for a long time and that leading to violence


[05-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Antagonista#8566
yet violence is that - violence


[05-Jul-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the boston tea party was the first step in a war


[05-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Antagonista#8566
it's not something constructive, nor does it improve things


[05-Jul-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it starts small and then snowballs into something much much larger


[05-Jul-20 03:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nah, one day equals the every day of the movement.


[05-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think the Americans were looting and burning down each other's businesses.


[05-Jul-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not yet anyway


[05-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
there's been some concesions made to the protesters, imo not enough but kinda proves that direct action is more effective than electoralism


[05-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Weak politicians.


[05-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
KEK man you should read about all the looting the revolutionary army did


[05-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
The right should just be more violent to get concessions


[05-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
Is the only lesson I'm seeing from this


[05-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the founding fathers wrecked shit before the whole declaration thing


[05-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Antagonista#8566
oh yes it does, direct actions leave no choice, but to always be addressed directly indeed


[05-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Antagonista#8566
so they are bound to be more effective, if direct response is what you are after


[05-Jul-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peaceful protests are one thing, but riots put flaming pressure on politicians to act before shit gets worse


[05-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
this leads to war, if both sides do direct action


[05-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
the right did get more violent and does every so often still remember that Heather that was murdered at Charlotteville


[05-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Those are individual events, rather than mass movements


[05-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
it was a unite the right rally


[05-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is why direct actions like that is not met with favorable concessions


[05-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Nah, I don't think anybody at the rally defended the actions of that diagnosed schizophrenic who did that


[05-Jul-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw so many people defending him


[05-Jul-20 03:59 AM] PwnyPony#6185
"very fine people on both sides." - Trump


[05-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
there was a whole disinformation campaign on a billion dollar news network that insinuated she died of aheart attack cause she was overweight


[05-Jul-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He was justified, they were attacking his car" "He was scared, of course he panicked"


[05-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Two lines later, Trump said, "I'm not referring to the white nationalists, who should be condemned totally"


[05-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Pontology#1010
which he was wrong about. Black power movements are rising globally


[05-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Pontology#1010
Racial voluntary separation seems inevitable at this point as we balkanize


[05-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Pontology#1010
I wish it weren't so.


[05-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe I accidentally swallowed a blackpill.


[05-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Antagonista#8566
Black pills matter.


[05-Jul-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-coronavirus-strain-infectious-does-not-make-people-sicker-study-2020-7

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[05-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DKPIzwQeE

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[05-Jul-20 05:23 AM] illumnious#7938
you ruined everything you stupid bitch. You ruined everything, you stupid stupid bitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnSLdoJe07w

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[05-Jul-20 05:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yanks out!


[05-Jul-20 05:28 AM] illumnious#7938
stupid bitch


[05-Jul-20 05:33 AM] illumnious#7938
today's trend

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[05-Jul-20 05:33 AM] illumnious#7938
we don't need another celebrity to be a president tho


[05-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
harambe 2020


[05-Jul-20 05:34 AM] illumnious#7938
yes


[05-Jul-20 05:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Betting Americans have never wanted to go to Europe this badly before now that they may be told they are not allowed. (Streisand effect?) (you can't come effect?)


[05-Jul-20 05:41 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/DAuG7_acmdA?t=41

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[05-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/louiskraussnews/status/1279579607637917699

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[05-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Columbus is Italian heritage


[05-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Pontology#1010
If he belongs anywhere, it's in Little Italy


[05-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Pontology#1010
He was a great navigator


[05-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Pontology#1010
And Italians have every right to be proud of him


[05-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Pontology#1010
"Nooo how dare he discover the American continent, you're not supposed to discover things :cryingwojak: "


[05-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm sure a lot of people who sold children into sexual slavery were good at something.


[05-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't mean we should hav statues of them.


[05-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
Columbus was aressted and imprisoned after his third voyage for tryanny


[05-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Honahue#0656
even the Italians of the time thought he was a bit of a asshole


[05-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-christopher-columbus

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[05-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Crow#5457
imagine if the vikings had moved to the americas first


[05-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Honahue#0656
I do like that the first European American conflict was started most likely cause the Vikings gave Amerindians cheese and tending to be lactose intolerate they ate all the cheese and got sick and thought they'd been poisoned


[05-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/02/20/old-world-vs-new-the-first-battles-between-native-north-americans-and-europeans/

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[05-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of funny how little a lot of Americans who grew up not poor realize the digestive system matters when it comes to people's lives.


[05-Jul-20 06:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Natives knew Vikings were up to no good.


[05-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
> Columbus’s governance of Hispaniola could be brutal and tyrannical. Native islanders who didn’t collect enough gold could have their hands cut off, and rebel Spanish colonists were executed at the gallows. Colonists complained to the monarchy about mismanagement, and a royal commissioner dispatched to Hispaniola arrested Columbus in August 1500 and brought him back to Spain in chains. Although Columbus was stripped of his governorship, King Ferdinand not only granted the explorer his freedom but subsidized a fourth voyage.


[05-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
As they enjoy their flushing toilets everywhere, get fat off carbs, and forget to eat basically any fiber.


[05-Jul-20 06:10 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What is it with royalty and slavers wanting to cut peoples hands and feet off if they don't collect enough of some resource?


[05-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It lets you kill someone in a way that's as cruel as possible without technically executing them.


[05-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thou shalt not kill, after all.


[05-Jul-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to the pain


[05-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/VNNvp9f

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Confederate flag 101
https://i.imgur.com/YdPrfsih.jpg


[05-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
> Confederate Flag 101 - from someone who teaches AP US History
> 
> If you're confused as to why so many Americans are defending the confederate flag, monuments, and statues right now, here's a quick Q&A:
> 
> Q: What did the Confederacy stand for?
> 
> A: Rather than interpreting, let's go directly to the words of the Confederacy's Vice President, Alexander Stephens. In his "Cornerstone Speech" on March 21, 1861, he stated "The Constitution... rested upon the equality of races. This was an error. Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."


[05-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Pontology#1010
I think most don’t know this. They rewrote history in the south and believe it, many of them.


[05-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
> It’s no accident that: 
> 
> You learned about Helen Keller instead of W.E.B, DuBois
> 
> You learned about the Watts and L.A. Riots, but not Tulsa or Wilmington.
> 
> You learned that George Washington’s dentures were made from wood, rather than the teeth from slaves.
> 
> You learned about black ghettos, but not about Black Wall Street. 
> 
> You learned about the New Deal, but not “red lining.”
> 
> You learned about Tommie Smith’s fist in the air at the 1968 Olympics, but not that he was sent home the next day and stripped of his medals. 
> 
> You learned about “black crime,” but white criminals were never lumped together and discussed in terms of their race. 
> 
> You learned about “states rights” as the cause of the Civil War, but not that slavery was mentioned 80 times in the articles of secession.


[05-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898

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Wilmington insurrection of 1898
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[05-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
It’s not known if his teeth were from slaves.


[05-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
His dentist would put up newspaper ads offering to buy white people’s teeth


[05-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
All that’s known is some thing in his finance book that he paid a negro for teeth, iirc


[05-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Could have been a free negro like the free whites who sold their teeth to his dentist


[05-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
It’s really not known, only speculation.


[05-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://washingtonpapers.org/george-washingtons-false-teeth-come-slaves-look-evidence-responses-evidence-limitations-history/


[05-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
he paid way less than what was normal at the time for teeth


[05-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
> Wherever Dr. Le Mayeur practiced, he sought out through newspaper ads “Persons who are willing to dispose of their Front Teeth.” While in New York, he advertised that he would pay two guineas each for good front teeth; in Richmond, he stipulated “slaves excepted.” That could explain why the price noted by Lund Washington was so low. Nine teeth sold for two guineas each would be worth almost nineteen pounds; Washington paid only slightly more than six pounds.


[05-Jul-20 06:53 AM] PwnyPony#6185
dentures of real teeth were a common gift to give to people back then. :ewstraight:


[05-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Seems probable. Still not known if dead slaves or what


[05-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Pontology#1010
I don’t understand why people seem to be hyper-focusing on this aside from the emotive element of what people’s minds jump to


[05-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Namely, ripping out teeth from a living person, when removing teeth from a recently deceased one is far more likely


[05-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of his slaves' teeth was sold to his dentist who then sold him dentures for an unusually-cheap price. It's pretty obvious what happened.


[05-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait, it was his own slave?


[05-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The fact we forget this is a pretty obvious sign of how our history teaching doesn't want to grapple with the realities of slavery in early America.


[05-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
`Lund Washington, George’s distant cousin who managed Mount Vernon during the Revolution, made a notation in the plantation ledger books for May 1784: “By Cash pd Negroes for 9 Teeth on Acct of Dr. Lemoire.” This “Dr. Lemoire” was almost certainly George Washington’s dentist, Dr. Jean Le Mayeur, who corresponded with George Washington about his visit to Mount Vernon that summer.3`


[05-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the paragraph before the one Crow quoted.


[05-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I'm pretty sure you can't pay dead people so.


[05-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. Where does it say the teeth were from his own slave?


[05-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were the slaves that his family owned.


[05-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure there weren't coincidental blakks showing up at his plantation for this.


[05-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Why was he paying his own slaves?


[05-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Where does it say those negros were his?


[05-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably because wrenching teeth out of them directly would've been a nasty affair.


[05-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Easier to go "hey guys if you could scrounge up some teeth, we'll giv you some cash to use to get some amenities"


[05-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then not ask too many questions about who they came from and how.


[05-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can imagine how often slaves would've lost teeth for various reasons given they weren't really allowed even the shoddy dental hygiene of the time.


[05-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
A rotted tooth would work just fine in dentures.


[05-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if some teeth had to be knokked out of people by force, well, Lund would've been none the wiser, no culpability on his part.


[05-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
the worst part is that it was within a slaveowner's legal rights to forcefully knock out teeth from a slave and then sell them


[05-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
this is why law != morality


[05-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Pontology#1010
It was slaves removing their own due to the cash incentive?


[05-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Pontology#1010
You think


[05-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Rotten loose ones


[05-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Pontology#1010
That seems the most plausible if the negros he paid for teeth were his


[05-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was likely a mix of those that came out rotten, some that needed coercion to come out, and some just plain torn out.


[05-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Lund most likely said "get me 9 teeth, this money's yours" to a group of a dozen or more slaves.


[05-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah


[05-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
I for one am glad slavery is abolished


[05-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
I know that’s a controversial opinion


[05-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
/s


[05-Jul-20 07:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a controversial opinion because there are some who hold the idea that while it might be abolished, it's far from gone


[05-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Pontology#1010
It’s true there are more slaves today than ever before, mostly people in Pakistan, Yemen, and the like iirc


[05-Jul-20 07:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And others still who would tell you that the institutions we have to replace them ("seasonal" labor and prison labor, specifically) are essential to the functioning of any society, and they will go so far as to suggest that no great act of humanity was or is possible without massive amounts of indentured servitude. I know this because I've had these arguments made in earnest to my face


[05-Jul-20 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm *just* talking about the United States, mind


[05-Jul-20 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wholeheartedly reject the notion that humanity's great achivements were only possible and can only be possible with massive amounts of manual labor (that is unpaid or underpaid). But it is true that right now we do rely on them.


[05-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, and some people think that wage labor is slavery


[05-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Pontology#1010
It’s an insult to actual slaves and the horrors they endured


[05-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Pontology#1010
And endure today where slavery still exists


[05-Jul-20 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would not go so far as to say that, but it is a form of subjugation for...well, an awful lot of people, in combination with our utter failure of a healthcare system


[05-Jul-20 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You shouldn't have to worry, working a minimum wage job, about becoming homeless because you broke your arm


[05-Jul-20 07:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There really shouldn't even be a difference in meaning between "minimum wage" and "living wage" and yet there is


[05-Jul-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/eJMazeBIlzw

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The tipping point in any movement is when it affects YOU!
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[05-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Honahue#0656
Louis Rossman is so close but still seems to be Libertarian poisoned


[05-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
this is even worse in heavy equipment, cause at least cars have ODB2 standarized but heavy equipment can use whatever diagnostic port they want


[05-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
John Deere is also famous for doing this shit


[05-Jul-20 07:38 AM] byte[]#2610
That's true, but the video doesn't really touch on his libertarian bent


[05-Jul-20 07:38 AM] byte[]#2610
this very much is a call for regulation of the industry


[05-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah but he gets that companies are profit driven but he's still like that's fine it just needs rules


[05-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
and then also that the problem is people not voting with their dollars


[05-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Snap On sells a tool that will read any machine but it's basically a rugged tablet that cost like 15k and the plugs and the licences for each brand is another couple hundred


[05-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Crow#5457
I feel it should be possible to make rules that prevent companies from ever being able to gain enough capital to be able to be able to circumvent or co-opt the government


[05-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Honahue#0656
I've always wondered which has more money in it a bank truck or the SnapOn truck cause that shit is expensive


[05-Jul-20 07:55 AM] wren#0114
what about restricting lobbying and capping election ad campaigns


[05-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/uk/maxwell-spacey-throne-gbr-intl/index.html

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Epstein's alleged accomplice pictured posing on British throne with...
The British royal family has been dragged once again into the Jeffrey Epstein scandal as a photograph emerged showing the late financier's alleged accomplice posing on a throne at Buckingham Palace.
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[05-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
gonna be sad when she kills herself/gets cancer in a bit


[05-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Crow#5457
the three bullets in her skull will have "cancer" printed on them


[05-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
hope she's drinking her milk cause her hyiod bone needs to be strong


[05-Jul-20 09:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Somehow, the John Hopkins coronavirus map is more resource intensive than Doom Eternal


[05-Jul-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Jul-20 09:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>flatten the curve
I guess a straight diagonal line upwards can count as flat?


[05-Jul-20 09:29 AM] wren#0114
flat infection rate curve maybe?


[05-Jul-20 09:29 AM] wren#0114
constant slope


[05-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/tabitha-morris-cancel-culture/

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Activists get Kansas woman fired from 20-year job after she critici...
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[05-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Synfag#9241
... for being white.


[05-Jul-20 09:58 AM] wren#0114
cancer culture


[05-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Synfag#9241

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[05-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Synfag#9241
BLM wins
BLM always wins


[05-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
I watched the video, the only "point" she makes is that she doesn't agree with black lives matter, she starts out by how she's annoyed by seeing "black lives matter" everywhere she looks, then she talks about how she's proud to be a white woman, some stuff about how she's never owned slaves and about how no one alive's been a slave, then some stuff about reparations, and ends the video with "You can kiss my ass!"


[05-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Crow#5457
it's a patently karen take tbh


[05-Jul-20 10:07 AM] wren#0114
it's not job-loss worthy


[05-Jul-20 10:07 AM] wren#0114
social media is dum


[05-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Synfag#9241
best way to beat racism


[05-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Synfag#9241
a scorched earth campaign


[05-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Synfag#9241
> *“What has happened to me and others, should never be allowed to happen to anyone else. I do not have a degree. I spent the last 20 years at this practice, starting at minimum wage, and worked my way up, with hard work, continued education, and dedication…All of that has been taken from me, over a 3-minute video, stating I did not support a movement, and would not apologize for being born white.”*


[05-Jul-20 10:10 AM] Synfag#9241
nobody is going to help her anymore.


[05-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
http://westkentuckystar.com/News/Local-Regional/McCracken-County/Baptist-Health-Woman-in-Videos-No-Longer-on-Staff.aspx

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West Kentucky Star's aim is to provide 24/7 constant local information updates for Paducah, western Kentucky and southern Illinois.


[05-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
>  Moore-Morris said, "All black lives matter! All lives matter no matter what color you are. That video was to express the fact that I'm angry because everybody is forcing us to support Black Lives Matter when I don't believe in their core goal. If they truly cared about black lives matter they would care about all black lives like the rest of us do."


[05-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-whatmatters2020-goals-and-focus/

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BLM's #WhatMatters2020 Goals and Focus - Black Lives Matter
BLM’s #WhatMatters2020 aims to vigorously engage underrepresented communities in the electoral process, educate the Black community about candidates and the issues that impact Black voters most, promote voter registration among Millennials, Generation Z, the Black community, a...


[05-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
tbh it seems like she was just massively ignorant on the issue of what black lives matter is actually about and just assumed it was the same thing as the black panthers or something


[05-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Now she definitely not hates blm with passion.


[05-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[05-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
A way to turn distrust into animosity.


[05-Jul-20 10:18 AM] wren#0114
I definitely don't support the group BLM, but do support the statement "black lives matter"


[05-Jul-20 10:45 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Same


[05-Jul-20 10:45 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The group are pretty fucked in the head


[05-Jul-20 10:47 AM] wren#0114
for me it's the riot violence, and the more socialist leanings of the leadership of the movement


[05-Jul-20 10:47 AM] wren#0114
I support the stated goal


[05-Jul-20 10:47 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Yeah


[05-Jul-20 10:47 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Ye0


[05-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Synfag#9241
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[05-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:wheeze:


[05-Jul-20 10:56 AM] Synfag#9241
a symbol more recognized than the cross


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[05-Jul-20 12:31 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
America successfully flattened the curve, but toward the wrong axis.


[05-Jul-20 12:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
Flattened, but against a wall and not the floor.


[05-Jul-20 12:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
The ride goes straight up, baby.


[05-Jul-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/DaniOliver/status/1279155358666305541

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Hey, so, I got #Covid19 in March. I’ve been sick for over 3 months w/ severe respiratory, cardiovascular & neurological symptoms. I still have a fever. I’ve been incapacitated for nearly a season of my life. It's not enough to not die. You don’t want to live thru this, either...
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[05-Jul-20 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that there's way nastier (and much more common than reported) side effects of coronavirus that take much longer to recover from than the official CDC recovery time implies


[05-Jul-20 12:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The theme of the USA sounds great


[05-Jul-20 12:43 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
IN GOD WE THRUST


[05-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
True story, that was added mid-century as a way to combat those godless commies


[05-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Previously, it was "out of many, one"


[05-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is just way too commie-like


[05-Jul-20 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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A protestor has died after being hit by speeding car during BLM protest in Seattle
Summer Taylor, 24, and their friend, Diaz Love, were hit by a car at high speed during a Black Lives Matter protest on Seattle's Interstate 5. The road had been closed to drivers to allow the demonstration to take place. A man has been arrested in connection with the incident.
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[05-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Reginald#0534
it doesn't suit it


[05-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Reginald#0534
it doesn't suit it at all


[05-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Synfag#9241
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[05-Jul-20 01:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, a couple months before the george floyd murder went down, I was talking to someone who lives in the seattle area about some BLM protest that was happening there. The guy was genuinely concerned for his life over protesters being in the street causing a traffic jam and, citing Reginald Denny, claimed that if anyone approached his car while he was stuck on his way home, he would gun it without regard for who he hit, in self defense.


[05-Jul-20 01:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He could not articulate why he felt personally threatened by the protesters or why his actions would be self defense, let alone where he got the idea. But it was clear to me that someone had put the idea in his head that "protesters in street = danger, ram with car" and the news has only gone on to show that he was not the only one who took that advice to heart


[05-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That is horrible.


[05-Jul-20 01:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The most I could elicit from him by way of explanation was the following: 1. By the time the rioters were at the door of Denny's truck, it was too late for him 2. Protesters lying down in the road are putting themselves at risk of being run over 3. They're blocking emergency vehicles


[05-Jul-20 01:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Have you ever encountered pack of stray dogs Wingbeat?


[05-Jul-20 01:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Most packs of stray dogs I know of don't link elbows and kneel in the street


[05-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Good boys and girls don't protest


[05-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There just doggos


[05-Jul-20 01:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Understand, he was having this conversation while stuck in traffic while a protest was in progress. The protest was peaceful. Traffic in front of the protest was already at a standstill


[05-Jul-20 01:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The guy was at least a mile away from anything happening and yet believed that because traffic was backing up because of a protest that he dare not open a window or else The Rioters would descend upon him like a plague of locusts and drag him from his vehicle


[05-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also two of his three points from his explanation are not relevant. The first one is relevant  but uses an extreme example that only applys to rioters and not protesters.


[05-Jul-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet, he vehemently denied that they were irrelevant. To him, there is no such thing as a peaceful protest


[05-Jul-20 02:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm atleast happy to see the sick son of a bitch who ran over people to murder them has been arrested.


[05-Jul-20 02:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
one of them, anyway


[05-Jul-20 02:19 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[05-Jul-20 02:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wait... what happened to The Last of Us?


[05-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Gamers didnt like it


[05-Jul-20 02:24 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Well... I thought it's popular these days


[05-Jul-20 02:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Btw, the official translation of "The Last of Us" we here is 美国末日("The Doom of the US")


[05-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah


[05-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's more that in Japan, western games sell terribly


[05-Jul-20 02:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's happened with more than just TLOU2


[05-Jul-20 02:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
TLOU2 is literally fine, idk why gamers are so butthurt


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It being a big deal Sony title just means they tried to push it more and thus ended with more unsold copies than usually seen


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
no 10/10 meme review


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
but it's a perfectly okay 7/10 AAA title


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
Abby is more likeable than Ellie


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I've looked it up online just now, apparently Chinese gamers dislike it as well


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gameplay is fine and story is overly bleak with some groany moments


[05-Jul-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
yall just butthurt about your dadsona


[05-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not GotY, but yeah, people mad because Abby and because their cool strong stoic character died pretty badly


[05-Jul-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
dadsona is just cheap writing to replace the damsel in distress trope


[05-Jul-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
change my mind


[05-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I just don't want more escort quest games -_-


[05-Jul-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
nooo grizzled dad is all hard and lost and then he learns to have a heart me big brain writer


[05-Jul-20 02:30 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The reason Chinese gamers dislike it is "being too political correct"


[05-Jul-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
but.... it isn't?


[05-Jul-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It has lesbians and a trans character


[05-Jul-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
Ellie has a gf? big deal


[05-Jul-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
noooo politics in my video games how dare types of people that exist plenty irl exist in my video games?


[05-Jul-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
trans people exist, no reason they can't also exist in games lol


[05-Jul-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
trans people and lesbians existing isn't political


[05-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Chill dude, all the channers are asleep now


[05-Jul-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
they just exist lol


[05-Jul-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn


[05-Jul-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
I can't even bait them


[05-Jul-20 02:32 PM] ononim#8141
pls I don't want this channel to be even more of usual useless bullshit that go nowhere


[05-Jul-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
that isn't what it is?


[05-Jul-20 02:33 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The score of the game is very high, but most of gamers we here think the game isn't that good, and guess they just get high score for being political correct


[05-Jul-20 02:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
every game that pretends to be a movie is a 7/10 at best period


[05-Jul-20 02:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's a perfectly okay game and I'll enjoy it on a hacked ps4 when the ps5 is out : ')


[05-Jul-20 02:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
enough shitposting, back to sleep zzzzz


[05-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I remember people being so upset about Joel in the beginning of TLOU2, but it seems everyone forgot that Joel himself was.....kinda horrible in the end of the first game


[05-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
like


[05-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
"Dooming humanity" horrible


[05-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah


[05-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"sacrifice this girl and save humanity, or save her and condemn it to extinction"


[05-Jul-20 02:42 PM] ononim#8141
Didn't even tell her afaik


[05-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While going on a murderspree and then lying to her about it all


[05-Jul-20 02:42 PM] ononim#8141
"oh they went away"


[05-Jul-20 03:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@AlchemistLiang ah yes totally harmless as thousands die everyday from it. Trump is a moron.


[05-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/06/trump-wrongly-diverted-billions-build-wall-appeals-court-200626190949915.html


[05-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Synfag#9241
> aljazeera


[05-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
2.5$ Billion dolars from the US tax payer stolen


[05-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For a useless wall


[05-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That also is funded by US debt


[05-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
that he promosed to elmate a prentage of in 8 years


[05-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Aljazeera is unironically a fairly good source for news


[05-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag going 'media bad' doesn't change the fact that the ""law and order presdent"" stole 2.5$  billion for his useless ass wall


[05-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Particularly non-US centric news that large networks tend to not care about


[05-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AP, Reuters, Europa Press, AFP, and a few others are often best, but the way their sites are set up it's also hard to gauge "importance" as they just pump out reports as they come


[05-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>The 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a coalition of border states and environmental groups that contended the money transfer was unlawful and that building the wall would pose _environmental threats_


[05-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am curious what threats they speak of


[05-Jul-20 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, it's really affected migratory patterns of endangered species


[05-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Which animals in particular?


[05-Jul-20 04:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the sections that have already been built, that is, hang on while I source that


[05-Jul-20 04:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/01/27/endangered-animals-are-already-cut-off-by-a-border-wall-trump-wants-it-much-bigger/
https://mashable.com/2017/04/11/800-species-trump-border-wall/

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800 wildlife species at risk from Trump's 'beautiful' border wall
Even worse: 180 of them, including the pronghorn antelope and bald eagle, are endangered.
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[05-Jul-20 04:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's up to 800 species that could be affected, the mashable headline's a bit alarmist


[05-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh. Interesting. Heard of similar issues in other countries at borders.


[05-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Indeed, humans have less issues dealing with the wall.


[05-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc there was an interesting story about deer "tribes" along some easter european country's border that when the border was opened could not socialize at all with the other side


[05-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even though genetically the same


[05-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
We had this in Asia with saiga antelopes.


[05-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So not only is it useless, a massive waste of tax payer money that was stolen by the "law and order presdent", debt incurring but, it also fucks with nature.


[05-Jul-20 04:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the reports on the section of border fence that had already been built *before trump took office* said as much


[05-Jul-20 04:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, Trump didn't invent the wol. All that ended up happening was the expansion of a program that was started by an earlier president


[05-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got to give Trump some credit here, he packs alot of bad consequences into one dumb idea that he steals credit for


[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That is some expert stupidty right there


[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
or just evil


[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact, about the only thing the wall doesn't have a measurable impact on is border crossings by illegal immigrants

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[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey now


[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There are a lot of people in his admin working hard to be this stupid


[05-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't forget about them


[05-Jul-20 04:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause hey turns out the *vast majority* of them are arriving through checkpoints


[05-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Of course, he only highers the best people. And by best he ment stupidest


[05-Jul-20 04:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
No, not stupidest, just tailor-made to be the antithesis of the best man for the job


[05-Jul-20 04:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Key qualities are loyalty and a willingness to dismantle regulation from the inside


[05-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His EPA hires are basically people that fall asleep pondering the most effective ways of dumping toxic waste water into natural springs


[05-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Who do I need in charge of education? I know, someone that _hates_ seeing people receive education!"


[05-Jul-20 04:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's a coin toss between whether Steven Miller, the xenophobic head of immigration, or William Barr, the attorney general who works tirelessly to keep the president above the law, is the biggest fascist brought in


[05-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Carson is literally a diversity hire for a secretariat I guarantee Trump didn't know existed


[05-Jul-20 04:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
though in my opinion I'm probably gonna have to hand it to Miller for invoking the most nazi imagery


[05-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't see Miller without seeing his "Why should we not litter when there are janitors?!" speech


[05-Jul-20 04:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Miller's greatest public gaffe for me has to be his derision of the Colossus poem on the statue of liberty


[05-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The shopping cart return parable, he's the one that doesn't return it


[05-Jul-20 04:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
putting aside, ofc, that he's responsible for the ICE brutality and internment camps


[05-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He walks out the store and just pushes the cart in a random direction as he walks straight to his car ignoring all crossings and vehicles


[05-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh I don’t see why we don’t try using sonic weapons


[05-Jul-20 04:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they're devastating


[05-Jul-20 04:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and we have used 'em


[05-Jul-20 04:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
sonic weapons will *mess you up*


[05-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just blast R&B at people


[05-Jul-20 04:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, never mind border control, sonic weapons are the thing I fear most that the police have at their disposal for riot control, over tear gas, fire hoses, and everything else


[05-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I for one would disperse immediately


[05-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sonic weapons for what purposes?


[05-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
For warfare?


[05-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Crowd control


[05-Jul-20 04:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, permanent hearing damage happens above 85dB. LRAD operates at 160dB and it's a logarithmic scale


[05-Jul-20 04:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's targeted


[05-Jul-20 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not *developed* for crowd control, it's a military device


[05-Jul-20 04:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://archive.triblive.com/news/pittsburgh-to-pay-researcher-who-suffered-hearing-loss-during-g-20-summit/

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Pittsburgh to pay researcher who suffered hearing loss during G-20 ...
Pittsburgh leaders agreed to pay $72,000 to a professor who experienced permanent hearing loss during the September 2009 Group of 20 economic summit, when police used a highly focused loudspeaker on a neighborhood street, said Vic Walczak, legal director for the American Civil...
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[05-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah. Yes. For crowd control it is not a good idea.
Like using flamethrowers against crowds.


[05-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Question is


[05-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Is using it in warfare a good idea


[05-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Depends on your goals.


[05-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean it's better than a fucking machinegun


[05-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(for those hit, anyway, I can't comment on effectivity)


[05-Jul-20 04:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's best used as a deterrent, not a dispersing tool. The frequencies it uses were specifically found to inflict the most pain


[05-Jul-20 04:51 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://thefunambulistdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/lrad_specs.jpg

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[05-Jul-20 04:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you're trying to deploy it on someone who's already inside 20 meters of you, you're using it wrong


[05-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also some weapons can be an overkill, just like defoliants, basically chemical warfare, deployed against Vietnam.


[05-Jul-20 05:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/98heyjt/status/1279422916623466497?s=21

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What day is it again? https://t.co/kwln59wLQu
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[05-Jul-20 05:51 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112?s=21

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We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States 🇺🇸! #2020VISION
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[05-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why are celebrties running for the presidency now smh


[05-Jul-20 05:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because Ronald Reagan


[05-Jul-20 05:57 PM] illumnious#7938
The better question is this


[05-Jul-20 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Why the protrump Minecraft looking ass hoe running for the fucking presidential election


[05-Jul-20 05:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
power


[05-Jul-20 05:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Money


[05-Jul-20 05:59 PM] illumnious#7938
And fame


[05-Jul-20 05:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, I mean, listen to his song "power"


[05-Jul-20 05:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
guy egotrips hard


[05-Jul-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the better question is why he waited till now to announce it


[05-Jul-20 06:02 PM] illumnious#7938
What an excellent question


[05-Jul-20 06:02 PM] illumnious#7938
And the extreme question is this, does he even know how to run a fucking country????


[05-Jul-20 06:03 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1279719358474977281?s=21

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The National Anthem under Kanye’s presidency https://t.co/1FGcRN14bZ
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[05-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Xenxc#4012
"power" was the only good song kanye had and that's because it was in SR3


[05-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Mmm


[05-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Saints row


[05-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/friedensophie/status/1277284042266869762?s=20

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✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿צופיה (@friedensophie)
https://twitter.com/friedensophie/status/1277284042266869762?s=20
becoming a religious jew and living in israel is my form of radical decolonization :-) stay mad about it while I’m in my indigenous land raising jewish babies and taking shabbat walks with the love of my life
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[05-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Liberal zionist moment


[05-Jul-20 06:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.villages-news.com/2015/06/01/man-arrested-after-mooning-marion-county-sheriffs-deputy/

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Staff Report
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Man arrested after 'mooning' Marion County sheriff's deputy - Villa...
A 48-year-old man was arrested Sunday after he allegedly mooned a Marion County sheriff's deputy. Craig Bierema is facing a charge of exposure of sexual
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[05-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Pontology#1010
So many people jumped to the conclusion that the "car attack" in seattle was far-right and intentional


[05-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Turns out the guy who did it was a black dude


[05-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Pontology#1010
I mean, it could still be intentional. But white supremacist? Nah


[05-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was swerving to avoid a van but he went around barriers to get on the highway to begin with


[05-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/hlk61p/bruh_really/

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r/PoliticalHumor - bruh really?
1,418 votes and 93 comments so far on Reddit
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[05-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/05/some-trump-supporters-thought-npr-tweeted-propaganda-it-was-the-declaration-of-independence/


[05-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
that's pretty old


[05-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Just wait till you tell them the government puts dihydrogen monoxide in our water supply.


[05-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:drama:


[05-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Crow#5457
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[05-Jul-20 10:13 PM] wren#0114

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[05-Jul-20 10:17 PM] jlun2#8758
time to cancel luna


[05-Jul-20 10:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/FreakinClever/status/1279850279396048896

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ME READING ORDER OF THE PHOENIX: wow, jk rowling is really good at writing a bigoted middled aged woman that doesn't know when to shut the fuck up, i wonder where she got the inspiration
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[05-Jul-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2020/06/30/mississippi-election-commissioner-accused-making-racist-comments/3280055001/

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Mississippi election commissioner's social media comment about Blac...
A Jones County election commissioner is under fire for making a comment about Blacks holding voter registration drives, unlike "people in Mississippi."
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[05-Jul-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
> I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi,"  the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too."

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[05-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/hlkxfb/policeman_in_oregon_flashing_a_white_power_sign/

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r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut - Policeman in Oregon flashing a white power sig...
48,294 votes and 5,603 comments so far on Reddit
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[05-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
jesus fuck


[05-Jul-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow so have ppl started cancelling harry potter yet


[05-Jul-20 10:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] so he's basically implying black people aren't people?


[05-Jul-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[05-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
jk rowling's too rich to cancel


[05-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
people will always listen to her just because of her money


[05-Jul-20 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except that all the actors who portrayed her characters have denounced her


[05-Jul-20 11:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
because they already *got* that paycheck and have moved on


[05-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Crow#5457
and there would be no end of actors and actresses willing to play in whatever new movie idea she comes up with set in the same universe


[05-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I legitimately think more people hate Delores Umbridge than Voldemort


[05-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Voldemort at least had a pretty tragic backstory, right?


[05-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
He lost his nose


[05-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Poor man


[05-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Blazy#0420
like micheal jackson?


[05-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Blazy#0420
oh wait, Voldemort and Micheal Jackson are the same person


[05-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Blazy#0420
:^)


[05-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
voldemort got abused like harry, only it was in an orphanage instead of by family


[05-Jul-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
People hate delores umbridge more than voldemort because delores umbridge is a very real kind of evil where as voldemort is a fantasy villain

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[05-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention voldemort also found out later he was abandoned by his family because he was a half-blood


[05-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
voldemort would probably be a textbook case of environmentally-caused sociopathy


[05-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Michel Jankson.


[05-Jul-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
>environmentally caused sociopathy


[05-Jul-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
🤡


[05-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
👀


[05-Jul-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/KwCongressional/status/1279562816324763648?s=19

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Beyoncé is not even African American. She is faking this for exposure. Her real name is Ann Marie Lastrassi. She is Italian. This is all part of the Soros Deep State agenda for the Black Lives Matter movement. BEYONCÉ YOU ARE ON NOTICE!

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[05-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Crow#5457
florida man in politics


[05-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Reginald#0534
That's a good one


[05-Jul-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
>got famous for a style of music popularized by black americans
>apparently not allowed to speak about black american issues now


[05-Jul-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
hm


[05-Jul-20 11:56 PM] wren#0114
>qanon

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[05-Jul-20 11:56 PM] jlun2#8758
twitter is dumb


[06-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/D241JEO

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"Ghislaine Maxwell? Never met her!"  trumP... soon....
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[06-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Crow#5457
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[06-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His excuse is always "I get pictures with everyone"


[06-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[06-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOAOVbyfjA0

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Why America's police look like soldiers
Why are the police bringing military assault rifles to protests? And where did they get them?

Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO

Across the country, Americans protesting racial injustice and police brutality – the overwhelming majority of them peacefully – have b...
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[06-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279859772456611840?s=19

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This woman in Scottsdale, Arizona was super upset with Target for selling face masks. So upset in fact, that she attacked their display....https://t.co/ye9LiDz0JH
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[06-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1279860278679801856

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Continued... 

Police came to her house and she was arrested on IG Live saying she is a spokesperson for QAnon & the White House and wanted the police to “call Donald Trump and ask him” because she can’t share any “classified information.” 

We’re doomed...https://t.co/Vy4Qhm...
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[06-Jul-20 01:00 AM] wren#0114
hahahahaha


[06-Jul-20 01:00 AM] wren#0114
wtf


[06-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505945-7-men-arrested-after-allegedly-harassing-black-family-on-oregon-beach

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7 men arrested after allegedly harassing Black family on Oregon beach
Police in Lincoln City, Ore., said this weekend that they arrested 7 men on various charges after a group of white people they were a part of allegedly harassed a Black family on Independence Day by using racial slurs
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[06-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[06-Jul-20 02:31 AM] illumnious#7938
Who’s next?


[06-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Synfag#9241

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[06-Jul-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/conservatives-flock-free-speech-social-media-app-which-has-started-n1232844

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Conservatives are flocking to a new 'free speech' social media app ...
Many of Parler's users have voiced their disapproval of how mainstream platforms such as Facebook and Twitter moderate content.
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[06-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Synfag#9241

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[06-Jul-20 03:30 AM] jlun2#8758
https://twitter.com/TheAdvocateMag/status/1278440995424735235
this thing appeared on my feed

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Under the EARN IT Act, many online platforms may be driven to ban all sex-related content and communications. https://t.co/aTaLQuDMoI
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[06-Jul-20 03:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Why


[06-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Xenxc#4012
no more furry erp


[06-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Easier to just ban it than think of liability


[06-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.wired.com/story/security-news-encryption-busting-earn-it-act-advances-senate/

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The Encryption-Busting EARN IT Act Advances in the Senate
Plus: A massive crime bust in Europe, a warning from US Cyber Command, and more of the week's top security news.
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[06-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'The bill also comes as the Department of Justice ramps up its campaign to demand that tech companies provide encryption backdoors for law enforcement access. EARN IT was amended this week, but privacy advocates say that it still poses a substantial threat to encryption. The highly regarded end-to-end encrypted chat app Signal announced at the beginning of April that it would be forced to exit the US market if the EARN IT Act becomes law.'


[06-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same shit as usual


[06-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
gov't doesn't like people having privacy.


[06-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
THINK OF THE CHILDREN etc.


[06-Jul-20 04:05 AM] wren#0114
😠


[06-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, this is FOSTA but for CP


[06-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
So whereas FOSTA said "you let people advertise possibly-sexual shit online, we burn down everything cause might be prostitutes", this is "you let people watch PORN? We burn down everything cause might be CP"


[06-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So wait


[06-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The original text was all NO ENCRYPTION ALLOWED


[06-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Porn twitters are gonna get banned?


[06-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If this bill makes it thru


[06-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Discord, Twitter, Facebook will ban all porn.


[06-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Period.


[06-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're turning Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act into swiss cheese.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh fuck the government, can we just break up into nation states.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
This bill in its original form would've forced every company to unencrypt shit for third-party watchdogs to go fishing for CP.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are the chances of it managing to go through?


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
In its current form it's just FOSTA but for CP.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, net neutrality was repealed in the end


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll likely pass in the Senate.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The House is another story.


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So i won't underestimate the possibility for political chicanery


[06-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
the house would be giving the AG a stupid amount of power online if they pass it, so I doubt they would


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, this is a power grab by the Trump administration.


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They want to take away encryption.


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And start siccing the feds on people on facebook etc.


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] wren#0114
😬


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOSTA was a travesty for those who don't know.


[06-Jul-20 04:11 AM] wren#0114
I haven't heard of it


[06-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It basically said "if prostitutes use a part of your site, your servers get raided"


[06-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Synfag#9241
no amount of slacktivism can stop it
it's ridiculously hard to defend porn


[06-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's why craigslist removed an entire section


[06-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOSTA btw didn't stop what it aimed to


[06-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it just drove it underground and overseas


[06-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
prostitutes get along just fine without craigslist or Facebook.


[06-Jul-20 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What corporate brakes there might be include the fact that porn artists already make a good part of twitter's user and content creator base, so the corps *miiiiiight* lift a finger, but i don't really think so


[06-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll raise a huge fuss when this hits the House


[06-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
can you imagine Trump's DoJ looking at the communications of the other campaign?


[06-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what this leads to.


[06-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh I say we just lube up the ramps Trumps gonna walk on


[06-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Synfag#9241
> can you imagine Trump's DoJ looking at the communications of the other campaign?

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[06-Jul-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you think basic immunological measures are mass government survelliance, yet actual mass government survelliance is ok to you


[06-Jul-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump moment


[06-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643976051722027038/729382456356110396/1593896458171.mp4

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[06-Jul-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Consider also that it's only been in the last decade or so that stuff like pornhub gaining traction for their PR stunts outside of porn, and the general acceptance of porn among millenials etc. as not only a good thing, but an industry that would be improved if it could go "legit," and I could very easily imagine a world in which the next celebrity movement is in deliberately going horny on main - maybe not actually posting adult content, but just the topics they've searched for, with some hashtag standing in defense of the adult industry


[06-Jul-20 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'll probably be cringetastic at first until someone steps up and is genuine about it


[06-Jul-20 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony if that happens ill immediately not regret being born too early for most "cool" futuristic things


[06-Jul-20 06:36 AM] jlun2#8758
conservatives would prob fight to the death against it tho


[06-Jul-20 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm counting on it


[06-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's also a small contingent of neo-puritans who dislike porn


[06-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"The new addiction" or something like that


[06-Jul-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
> new addiction
did they live under a rock? & not video games? seriously?


[06-Jul-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking how large is that, & are they yet another religious revival, or fringe group?


[06-Jul-20 07:00 AM] jlun2#8758
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Puritans_(social_movement)

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The terms New Puritans and Neo-Cromwellians were coined by Jim Murphy, associate director of the Future Foundation, to describe a perceived trend in British society. (Note: The term "New Puritans" appears in Barbara Jordan's 1976 Democratic National Convention Keynote Address,...


[06-Jul-20 07:00 AM] jlun2#8758
uh...


[06-Jul-20 07:00 AM] jlun2#8758
what


[06-Jul-20 07:01 AM] jlun2#8758
that was unexpected :inkyhuh:


[06-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I didn't mean it like that but


[06-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>issuing tickets to smoking pregnant women


[06-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wew


[06-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Xenxc#4012
based


[06-Jul-20 08:48 AM] illumnious#7938
Me on a random server and this dick is a true trump supporter

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[06-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Biden ad campaign criticized trump for not restricting borders enough :shrugs:


[06-Jul-20 08:50 AM] illumnious#7938
Eh


[06-Jul-20 08:51 AM] illumnious#7938
Right now we just need a real goddam leader


[06-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Old possibly-going-senile fogie vs old going-senile fogie


[06-Jul-20 09:29 AM] HerdAnon#6614
>Right now we just need a real goddam leader
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


[06-Jul-20 09:30 AM] HerdAnon#6614
WHEN is the last time we had a leader that wasn't a prick in one way or another. South park was on point. All we got is the douche or turd sandwich.


[06-Jul-20 09:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should actually look at who we vote for in primaries and possibly burning primaries to the ground.


[06-Jul-20 09:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't need year-long campaigns that involve a slow grinding march of nonsense where ultimately the splitting up by party allows the most conservative voices on each side to choose their shill, when the country as a whole would prefer someone who acutally looks out for them.


[06-Jul-20 10:29 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm voting the chick named Jo. She actually cares about the freedom and equality for all.


[06-Jul-20 10:29 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Would be a wonderful fit for the first female president too!


[06-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Pontology#1010
I’d vote libertarian if they were a real party.


[06-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Alas, they are not.


[06-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
They got on the ballot in my state.


[06-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Republicans switched out their governor I think candidate for them.


[06-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a couple bribes.


[06-Jul-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thing about a party that only worships money and a lakk of laws about what you can do with it


[06-Jul-20 10:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
they aren't exactly the sort that stikk to their guns rather than the highest bidder.


[06-Jul-20 10:53 AM] HerdAnon#6614
A true libertarian believes that the right of man is to be free. Meaning that no matter what, you should never restrict them so long as they don't hurt anyone else. Sadly, without preferential voting they stand no chance, that and people buy the memes about them.


[06-Jul-20 10:54 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Honestly, I'm just sick and tired of both these 2 parties. They suck ass.

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[06-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Reginald#0534
^


[06-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Reginald#0534
Herd a saint


[06-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Reginald#0534
:nut:


[06-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody sane likes either party, they're mostly all hucksters and grifters in it for the money

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[06-Jul-20 01:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The system is currently such that anyone who wishes to advance their career in politics is generally the last sort of person you want doing that


[06-Jul-20 01:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you'll not get an elected official who really represents the will of the people unless they lie about that during the campaign


[06-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Blazy#0420
Kanye for President.....
Yea i dont think so.


[06-Jul-20 01:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's got enough money to play at being Bloomberg though


[06-Jul-20 01:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to the extent that he did, for sure, but you know the goal for Kanye running is to split the POC vote to make sure it has less impact, which is good for his buddy Trump


[06-Jul-20 01:18 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Obama deported more illegals and bombed more people 
Trump has made more gun restrictions and hasn't built the wall.
All politicians are liers


[06-Jul-20 01:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They really should make these fancy thermometers look a little less like guns...
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/420/cpsprodpb/9993/production/_113251393_gettyimages-1224886447.jpg

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[06-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Probably for this reason around here they point it at arms.


[06-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Elbow area.


[06-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not sure if it is a correct way to read temperature.


[06-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Blazy#0420
Nope


[06-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Blazy#0420
You need to messure the temp at your forehead


[06-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Blazy#0420
(or at your ass)


[06-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or in yo mouth


[06-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lunalick:


[06-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Blazy#0420
🔼


[06-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Blazy#0420
:imalive:


[06-Jul-20 01:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Those things are designed for forehead because that's where body heat is closest to core temperature. the only other place that'd be acceptable is armpits, but that's inaccessible in most cases in public


[06-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately for armpit fetishists


[06-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[06-Jul-20 01:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and obviously if you're this close to someone who might be infectious the last thing you wanna do is have them remove their mask and open their gaping :lul:


[06-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder if burka or hijab helps against corona


[06-Jul-20 01:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or niqab


[06-Jul-20 01:32 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[06-Jul-20 01:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Only about as well as a silk scarf. The fabric over the face is pretty thin


[06-Jul-20 01:58 PM] Reginald#0534
is gay art art


[06-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess


[06-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Art is art


[06-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Reginald#0534
Right


[06-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Reginald#0534
then why is it called gay art


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
why someone takes time be oddly specific with saying the artist is 'gay'


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
that should not be in anyone's interest, right?


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
it's either 'art'


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
or it's 'gay art'


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Calling people gay is fun


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
yes, but it's not funny when a big art gallery does so


[06-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Reginald#0534
we can call gays gays


[06-Jul-20 02:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
We can call anyone gays


[06-Jul-20 02:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Whats your point


[06-Jul-20 02:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
U dont like when someone calling some art gay?


[06-Jul-20 02:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He just want to make some fallacy


[06-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ok,memes channel would be more appropriate for such conversation


[06-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Reginald#0534
I dislike to get one's shit sold as 'gay art'


[06-Jul-20 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
Expressionist Art is still art but it still called expressionist art to specify, you know


[06-Jul-20 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
or by country


[06-Jul-20 02:24 PM] ononim#8141
russian art, italian art, french art, japanese art, et c


[06-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Reginald#0534
but gay is no country


[06-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Reginald#0534
thang god


[06-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hey kids!


[06-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, you know...


[06-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That the acronym of the totes "based" republican party is GOP, right?


[06-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now, reverse that acronym, and what do you get?


[06-Jul-20 04:51 PM] byte[]#2610
:lul:


[06-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Desab


[06-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
setot


[06-Jul-20 05:03 PM] RYDE#8862
I'm kind of uncertain about our future of America. When did we go wrong? Why does politicians always pushes the bills for "please think of the children!" Crap? What can we do to save America from itself?


[06-Jul-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
we can't


[06-Jul-20 05:05 PM] byte[]#2610
it's dead


[06-Jul-20 05:05 PM] RYDE#8862
As for the EARN IT bill, I believe it's not a good idea.


[06-Jul-20 05:05 PM] RYDE#8862
Byte, are you really sure it's dead?


[06-Jul-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[06-Jul-20 05:06 PM] byte[]#2610
this political upheaval is irreversible


[06-Jul-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53309424

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Bus driver left brain dead after 'mask attack'
The driver in France was set upon by people who had no tickets and refused to wear face masks.
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[06-Jul-20 05:13 PM] RYDE#8862
Can we actually tear it down so we can start over with better decision making or....?


[06-Jul-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
No need


[06-Jul-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
It'll explode soon enough


[06-Jul-20 05:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[06-Jul-20 05:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese stonks are fucking crazy these days


[06-Jul-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jul-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if China has a culture of reality denying


[06-Jul-20 05:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
No idea what this is


[06-Jul-20 05:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Deny the existence of reality?


[06-Jul-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
the usual


[06-Jul-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
anti vaccination


[06-Jul-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
think the earth is flat


[06-Jul-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
think higher education is an ivory tower pursuit


[06-Jul-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
think 5G is a secret plot


[06-Jul-20 05:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anti vaccination is spreading into we here now


[06-Jul-20 05:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
But the other of those are never heard


[06-Jul-20 05:24 PM] RYDE#8862
@byte[] how though? When can we explode and possibly learn from all of this?


[06-Jul-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
after the election result is decided


[06-Jul-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
that's when the explosion happens


[06-Jul-20 05:28 PM] RYDE#8862
Can you give me an example of that?


[06-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
||9/11||


[06-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
||sorry||

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[06-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/505984-supreme-court-rules-states-can-remove-faithless-electors

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Supreme Court rules states can remove 'faithless electors'
The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that states can prohibit their Electoral College representatives from disregarding voters when casting their ballots in presidential elections.
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[06-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Cause in god  they do not trust?


[06-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[06-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That is pretty literal


[06-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh, interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector


[06-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>As a result of the seven successfully cast faithless votes, the Democratic Party nominee, Hillary Clinton, lost five of her pledged electors while the Republican Party nominee and then president-elect, Donald Trump, lost two.


[06-Jul-20 05:52 PM] ononim#8141
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53309424

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Bus driver left brain dead after 'mask attack'
The driver in France was set upon by people who had no tickets and refused to wear face masks.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/D5F7/production/_113257745_mediaitem113257743.jpg


[06-Jul-20 05:52 PM] ononim#8141
damn, arma is not here


[06-Jul-20 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
And I don't feel like DMing him this shit


[06-Jul-20 05:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Regional bus services have been severely disrupted as drivers refuse to work following the incident.


[06-Jul-20 05:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Now I wonder if they will mention nationality of those  5 attackers.


[06-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
French nationality


[06-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Well, american news would have already told of their skin color, heritage, etc.


[06-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So I am left a bit blueballed here.


[06-Jul-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53311558

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US black activist statue toppled in New York state
Activists say the incident may have been in retaliation for recent attacks on slavery-linked monuments.
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[06-Jul-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
don't make statues of people


[06-Jul-20 06:25 PM] ononim#8141
replace all people statues with horse statues


[06-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
With realistic detailed genitalia.


[06-Jul-20 06:26 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[06-Jul-20 06:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Or middle fingers


[06-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[06-Jul-20 06:30 PM] illumnious#7938
Yaaaaaassss


[06-Jul-20 06:31 PM] RYDE#8862
That I can agree.


[06-Jul-20 06:32 PM] illumnious#7938
I would love to tell my kids that we change the hooomans statue into middle finger statue or even better...shit statue


[06-Jul-20 06:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes poop


[06-Jul-20 06:34 PM] wren#0114
erect pony statues

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[06-Jul-20 06:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Not that’s something I can get behind on.


[06-Jul-20 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Jul-20 06:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Self aware


[06-Jul-20 06:40 PM] wren#0114
what does she mean by this


[06-Jul-20 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
she means it's a liberal hoax to damage trump's reelection


[06-Jul-20 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
what everyone else means is that biden might actually have a semblance of competence in his administration


[06-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/media/mary-trump-book-release-date/index.html

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The explosive tell-all book by Trump's niece is coming out two week...
A tell-all book by President Trump's niece Mary, a licensed clinical psychologist, will now be published next week, two weeks earlier than expected, the publisher Simon & Schuster said Monday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200702170404-mary-l-trump-super-tease.jpg


[06-Jul-20 06:41 PM] wren#0114
I thought it meant trump wanted it to continue and it didn't make sense


[06-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Won't change anyone's minds about him


[06-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But I guess will have some amusing excerpts


[06-Jul-20 06:42 PM] SemiDovich#0577
if Trump wins, it probably *will* continue till 2025


[06-Jul-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
@byte[] https://twitter.com/tomilahren/status/1279961026952298496?s=21

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If I had to guess how long coronavirus panic will last, if Biden wins it’ll be done by November 4th but if Trump wins it’ll be right around January 2025.
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[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess literally everyone getting infected counts as "herd immunity"...


[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Nobody wants it to continue


[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump included


[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/murray_nyc/status/1279990120939126784?s=21

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https://twitter.com/murray_nyc/status/1279990120939126784?s=21
@TomiLahren Actually, I agree & there is a logical explanation for it. 

If Biden wins there will be a sense of hope & a realization that he will appropriately attend to the pandemic. 

But if Trump wins we are doomed because he will do what he has done for the past 6 months:...
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[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
however, this administration is incredibly incompetent


[06-Jul-20 06:43 PM] wren#0114
ngl it's been fantastic not being expected to socialize outside anymore


[06-Jul-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
that will probably continue for the foreseeable future


[06-Jul-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
everything has changed


[06-Jul-20 06:44 PM] wren#0114
yeah it's annoying they basically rejected the virus outbreak wargames thing that they had for the administration change


[06-Jul-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
Businesses have gone "wait, we don't really need to pay $30k for this office space if everyone can be as productive from home"


[06-Jul-20 06:45 PM] wren#0114
businesses help chip in to get cable down in rural areas when


[06-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It would be godlessly sweet if so many of these office jobs could be 100% done remotely


[06-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People would be able to live in places that aren't stupidly expensive


[06-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So far my company hasn't had that conversation yet, or at least shared it with the peons


[06-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But everyone was working just fine for months during the lockdown, probably more productive than ever really


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
for me, I personally like working at the office as opposed to working from home


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
and prefer it


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
but I suspect my opinion is unpopular


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] wren#0114
the only reason I want to work in the office is because of focus issues


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
this^


[06-Jul-20 06:51 PM] wren#0114
also hallway conversations with coworkers on other projects


[06-Jul-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
it's like a pavlovian association of the place with "focus"


[06-Jul-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
and it helps with work/life separation


[06-Jul-20 06:52 PM] wren#0114
man I should fill out a telework agreement for half the week once things go back


[06-Jul-20 06:52 PM] wren#0114
yeah it helps a lot


[06-Jul-20 07:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah that also makes sense for me


[06-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Focus is an issue for me at work, even with the best headphones I can still hear everyone talking and coughing and walking and typing


[06-Jul-20 07:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Keeping up with school work has become harder in quarantine


[06-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At home I lose 3 hours without noticing because nothing's getting in my way


[06-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is also easier to set DND on slack than it is IRL


[06-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oof

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[06-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/>


[06-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why those forecasts are all so similar?


[06-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[06-Jul-20 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-orders-dakota-access-pipeline-shut-down-pending-review-n1232970

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Judge orders Dakota Access pipeline shut down pending review
In his order on Monday, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg wrote that the closure must take place in the next 30 days.
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[06-Jul-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[06-Jul-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump come to Brazil :DDDDDDDD


[06-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Statue always just looks like Jesus is egging someone in to fight him


[06-Jul-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
T pose Jesus


[06-Jul-20 08:30 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[06-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Pontology#1010
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2020-46166-001


[06-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Pontology#1010
>individuals with Dark Triad traits—Machiavellianism, Narcissism, Psychopathy—more frequently signal virtuous victimhood


[06-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Pontology#1010
Virtue signaling cancer confirmed.


[06-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[06-Jul-20 08:47 PM] jlun2#8758
@Pontology well, i mean only fools constantly signal how wise they are so yes. replace wise with some other virtue works too.


[06-Jul-20 08:57 PM] ononim#8141
since we posting maymays


[06-Jul-20 08:57 PM] ononim#8141

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[06-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Stoopedhooy This is basically what happened in 1992


[06-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Change the shirt/bar to a green one and the winner to a Republican saying "No abortion!" and you have 2000 and 2016


[06-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tbh that 2 party system seems weird.
Checked their slogans and they both are pretty meh.


[06-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It made me think the best would be to choose one you lose less with.


[06-Jul-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/IAmGryphoneer/status/1279466997286305793

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DJ Cashmoney (@IAmGryphoneer)
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very normal headline in a very normal country
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[06-Jul-20 09:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Big thonk


[06-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506064-bubba-wallace-addresses-attacks-from-trump-even-when-its-hate-from

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Bubba Wallace addresses attacks from Trump: 'Even when its HATE fro...
NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace on Monday called for Americans to meet hate with love after President Trump attacked the racing circuit's only African American driver and falsely accused him of carrying out a "hoax" involving a noo
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[06-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In 1684 garages examined, guess how many had the ropes tied like nooses?


[06-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_One._ Wallace's.


[06-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
FBI: "Nope, nothing wrong here"


[06-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean was it connected to the door


[06-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Or just a randomass moose


[06-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was connected to the door


[06-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But it was definetely a noose


[06-Jul-20 10:10 PM] byte[]#2610
>moose


[06-Jul-20 10:11 PM] byte[]#2610
🤔


[06-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Even if it wasn't meant for him or any sort of reference to lynching, whoever did it definitely wanted it to look like a noose


[06-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they were thinking of old timey westerns or suicide jokes or they just like the way nooses look or whatver


[06-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[06-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking photo evidence shows the noose there last year, long before anyone could have known the black dude would move in there


[06-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Pontology#1010
It had literally nothing to do with him


[06-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Pontology#1010
Hence the FBI's conclusion.


[06-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Probably some dark joke by whoever was stationed in that garage last year, like my buddy’s sense of humor at bronycon.

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[06-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://news.gallup.com/poll/313454/trump-job-approval-rating-steady-lower-level.aspx

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Trump's Job Approval Rating Steady at Lower Level
President Donald Trump's job approval rating remains lower than his earlier 2020 readings, with 38% currently approving of the job he is doing.
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[06-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This might be the new norm for trump approval rateing


[06-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology im going to agree with you here, from what I heard it was just simply a rope to bring the door down


[06-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It was also there last year when a diffrent driver was there


[06-Jul-20 10:27 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Question is, did the crewman gang himself each time or just pull it?


[06-Jul-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's placed too low to hang anything but a small child


[06-Jul-20 10:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Or a pony


[06-Jul-20 10:30 PM] Pontology#1010
:scared:


[06-Jul-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
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[06-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro I’d just bust the tank and take as many as I could carry


[06-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
No need to crank


[06-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Crow#5457
that would be the equivalent of theft


[06-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
not saying it's the wrong solution to the problem, but legally it would be the equivalent of theft


[06-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Hire children to pull the crank


[06-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:dab:


[06-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hm7riq/get_a_noose_black_man_survives_a_group_attack_and/

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4,660 votes and 452 comments so far on Reddit
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[06-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yql5MmMDjI

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Jeremy Hogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yql5MmMDjI
Video documentation of Bloomington resident Vauhxx Booker being att...
Video documentation of Bloomington resident Vauhxx Booker being attacked, July 4, 2020


https://bloomingtonian.com/2020/07/05/bloomington-man-threatened-with-noose-during-assault-at-lake-monroe/
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[06-Jul-20 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
I am pretty sure employers steal more in wage theft than any other type of theft in the US


[06-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Pontology#1010
only if you're a commie who believes in the marxist theory of surplus value


[06-Jul-20 10:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In other words, a chad


[06-Jul-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/3rg51e2cotb21.jpg

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[06-Jul-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't ilke that asterisk


[06-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
Ok, those are illegal, hence violations.


[06-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
also, that infographic needs a source


[06-Jul-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
yes it does


[06-Jul-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.gq.com/story/wage-theft

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Is Your Employer Stealing From You?
Millions of workers lose billions in stolen wages every year—nearly as much as all other property theft.
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[06-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year/

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Employers steal billions from workers’ paychecks each year: Survey ...
This report assesses the prevalence and magnitude of one form of wage theft—minimum wage violations (workers being paid at an effective hourly rate below the binding minimum wage)—in the 10 most populous U.S. states. We find that, in these states, 2.4 million workers lose $8 b...
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[06-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXD4zPY4Ai0
probably one of the best speeches of him in awhile.

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President Trump delivers remarks at the 2020 Mount Rushmore Fireworks Celebration.
RELATED: Trump remarks on jobs report https://youtu.be/P9tk5TGUNC8

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[06-Jul-20 11:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Low bar to surpass but ok


[06-Jul-20 11:11 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1280237599932715008

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This is a real article in the @nytimes. This lunacy should make the hair on your arms stand up. COVID apparently only attacks if leftist epidemiologists don’t agree with your protest but it’s not a threat if they do agree with your protest. Do I have that right?
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[06-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen pictures of fucking looters wearing masks


[06-Jul-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They said they seem "less comfortable doing so now" but that doesn't imply that they're all in favor of the BLM protests


[06-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But never anti lockdown people


[06-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Looters_ protected themselves better


[06-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Didn't Trump use the Mt Rushmore speech as an excuse to attack BLM again?


[06-Jul-20 11:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
Idk, I haven't watched it yet.


[06-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
And yeah, most of the police brutality protests have been at least trying to protect themselves from COVID


[06-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Vs lockdown protesters who kept going against guidelines


[06-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
it has nothing to do with political biases


[06-Jul-20 11:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The previous protests were for lifting immunological measures that are supposed to keep public safety in place


[06-Jul-20 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The recent protests are against police brutality


[06-Jul-20 11:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@>That Guy do you understand the discrepancy here?


[06-Jul-20 11:16 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think so.
Regardless, I think all protests should be allowed.


[06-Jul-20 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once you do, understanding the moral dilemma these doctors are in becomes much easier


[06-Jul-20 11:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I too think they should imo


[06-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Sunnyside#3103
a virus won't know your reasons for prostesting. so the end result could be the same. a gathering of people spreading it among themselves


[06-Jul-20 11:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now, which of these two protest movements has the sympathy of the governing body?


[06-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Sunnyside#3103
neither one


[06-Jul-20 11:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah. Still, I find it vaguely annoying that there's been a difference in the media, since they happened just about a month apart.

Yeah, a mass protest is going to cause spread, masks or no masks. I still think they should be allowed though.


[06-Jul-20 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, the former one was and is supported well by the GOP and Trump


[06-Jul-20 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Although the latter does have some very vague corporate interests behind it


[06-Jul-20 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the former is the more attractive one for the ruling class as it keeps the economic machine going, no matter deaths in the working class


[06-Jul-20 11:21 PM] >That Guy#3386
I don't really care who supports it.
All potests should be *allowed*, although any kinds of social gatherings should still be discouraged in these times.


[06-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Sunnyside#3103
the latter was in favor by the Dems


[06-Jul-20 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends -- many Dem mayors have been the ones to crack down on it


[06-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
summer of love as the seattle mayor called it intially


[06-Jul-20 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, weeks before he ordered the Capitol Hill protest zone to be reoccupied


[06-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
weeks


[06-Jul-20 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Both parties only make a show of being different -- in the end, they're both just the political front of the rich tbh


[06-Jul-20 11:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
Working class people can't stay at home forever: they need to work to live. A lot of the people at those protests looked working class to me.
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[06-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it shouldn't take weeks to make that decision.


[06-Jul-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, that's the dilemma they find themselves stuck in


[06-Jul-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either stay at home and safe from the virus or go to work to make money and possibly catch it


[06-Jul-20 11:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
Most people can't afford to do the former.
Small business owners need to stay open if they want their businesses to live.


[06-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Sunnyside#3103
you can't remain safe at home if you have no money to continue staying there.


[06-Jul-20 11:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[06-Jul-20 11:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, exactly


[06-Jul-20 11:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1280178669722513410
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[06-Jul-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder that Trump would likely be interested in shutting her up too


[06-Jul-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A good part of the whole ultra-rich would tbf


[06-Jul-20 11:39 PM] jlun2#8758
time to be ghost


[06-Jul-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/i/events/1280222212637593600

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ICE says international students whose universities move to online-only this fall must transfer or leave the US
As colleges debate how to safely reopen during the COVID-19 pandemic, Immigration and Customs Enforcement gave foreign students an ultimatum on Monday: transfer to a school with in-person classes or depart the country.
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[06-Jul-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
how to guarantee corona spreads


[06-Jul-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
woof https://theweek.com/speedreads/923821/white-house-reportedly-hoping-americans-grow-numb-covid19-death-toll

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[06-Jul-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-happy-place-is-grunting-and-fantasizing-about-real-men "Rule 34, presidential edition"

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Get ready for 1968 redux with Fat Nixon at the helm. Strap in for apocalyptic rhetoric about MS-13, antifa and socialists, plus those poor, misunderstood Confederate generals.
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[06-Jul-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
> Fantasizing about real men
that sounds quite gay


[06-Jul-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
I wonder if rick wilson has an e621 account


[07-Jul-20 12:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
real men?


[07-Jul-20 12:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd link a video in response to that but the account I found it on was suspended today


[07-Jul-20 12:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(can't blame twitter, about 50% of the guy's vocabulary is the N-word, as well as an equal percentage of his twitter handle)


[07-Jul-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1271849184627322885

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On Wednesday, the company demonstrated a new suite of features for Workplace, including the ability to censor certain words or topics from the system. The example they chose? "Unionize."

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[07-Jul-20 12:44 AM] byte[]#2610
how to get fucking destroyed in court^

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[07-Jul-20 12:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
please oh please


[07-Jul-20 12:56 AM] wren#0114
1. how do they put stuff like this out there without thinking about it first


[07-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
because this is what they actually want


[07-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
they don't think it's a big deal because they don't realize that most people don't actually want this


[07-Jul-20 12:57 AM] wren#0114
2. this would make the "taboo" topics turn to euphamisms and go underground, causing fractures deeper that would make unionization actually happen more


[07-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
it's like assuming everyone has a car or that everyone can read


[07-Jul-20 12:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh if you're using social media chat to unionize you might be doing it wrong


[07-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah employees can't use workplace chat to discuss union stuff


[07-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
NLRB recently rescinded an Obama-era rule saying they could


[07-Jul-20 12:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Avoid survelliance at all costs until the movement becomes large enough to threaten the top class


[07-Jul-20 01:00 AM] wren#0114
I hate censorship


[07-Jul-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
ur mom

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[07-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/03/us/george-floyd-protests-crowd-size.html

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Black Lives Matter May Be the Largest Movement in U.S. History
Recent polls suggest that about 15 million to 26 million people in the U.S. have participated in recent protests.
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[07-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jul-20 01:49 AM] jlun2#8758
pls translate that to votes


[07-Jul-20 01:49 AM] illumnious#7938
fuck it

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[07-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fascism/Legends

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Legends
Fascism was a political philosophy, based on militant authoritarianism. A number of laws passed by Emperor Palpatine were referred to as fascist by Rebel Alliance members.
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[07-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
how dare they put politics into my fun fantasy franchise!


[07-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How dare they put crows into my cute pony gallery!


[07-Jul-20 03:09 AM] wren#0114
how dare they put star wars into my politics


[07-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Jul-20 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
right in der fuehrer's face


[07-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Diabetic


[07-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Simple sugars keep beating him


[07-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Its the juice"


[07-Jul-20 03:51 AM] wren#0114
kek


[07-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/nyregion/amy-cooper-false-report-charge.html

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Amy Cooper Faces Charges After Calling Police on Black Bird Watcher
Ms. Cooper was captured on video calling the police after Christian Cooper asked her to keep her dog on a leash in Central Park.
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[07-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
> On Monday, Ms. Cooper was charged with filing a false report, a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail, the latest fallout from an encounter that resonated across the country and provoked intense discussions about how Black people are harmed when sham reports to the police are made about them by white people.


[07-Jul-20 03:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I thought she called the police on someone watching black birds from that title. :caw:


[07-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
AP changed their style guide to capitalize Black when talking about people


[07-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Synfag#9241
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The new villains of the XXI century.
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[07-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m a gay white male


[07-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And I ain’t a xenophobic


[07-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I like aliens


[07-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Namely sangheili and fallen


[07-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
👀


[07-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Synfag#9241
2020 is the year of the squeaky wheel


[07-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Honahue#0656
the wheel has been squeaking for a while 2020 is when the wheel said enough


[07-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Honahue#0656
~~to belabour the metaphor~~


[07-Jul-20 05:23 AM] Synfag#9241

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[07-Jul-20 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/author-gillian-philip-loses-job-after-hashtag-istandwithjkrowling/

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Author Gillian Philip loses job after hashtag #IStandWithJKRowling
Outrage mobs are accusing JK Rowling of transphobia and those who agree with her are getting canceled.
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[07-Jul-20 05:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our communist youth league said more than 120 persons dead of gunshots in the National Day of the US


[07-Jul-20 05:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it true?


[07-Jul-20 05:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> outrage mobs


[07-Jul-20 05:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They said most of the shooting are  gang conflicts


[07-Jul-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[07-Jul-20 06:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, you gotta love rich white women wasting all their PR when the obvious solution is to just not die on the hill of transphobia


[07-Jul-20 06:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
LONG LIVE TRIAD!!!


[07-Jul-20 06:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
What does JKrowling have to lose though?
She already sold her books and owns the royalties.


[07-Jul-20 06:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
her reputation and potential future money as she is getting into writing kids books.


[07-Jul-20 06:24 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Imagine if her new kids books were full of not so subtle TERF messaging. :wheeze:


[07-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Xenxc#4012
based


[07-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Xenxc#4012
speaking of based
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1280344674943873025?s=21

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[07-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hit or miss


[07-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess they never miss huh?


[07-Jul-20 06:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
She has no reputation, lol


[07-Jul-20 06:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not like she was ever progressive.


[07-Jul-20 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Xenxc god i wish


[07-Jul-20 06:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
She was a decent writer. I don't recall anyone ever admiring her for her politics.


[07-Jul-20 06:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC some people have even noticed TikTok uses pretty vile data farming techniques


[07-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Xenxc#4012
yeah


[07-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Xenxc#4012
it's a chinese app


[07-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Xenxc#4012
what do you expect


[07-Jul-20 06:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
And she'll make money regardless. Publishers won't let a little transphobia get between them and the fat stacks of cash a book with her name on it would bring.
Even if not, she'll still be a millionaire.


[07-Jul-20 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course


[07-Jul-20 06:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bourgeois moment


[07-Jul-20 06:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
She is very woke and progressive. everyone gay and Hermione the pale white nerd one was actually black all along. :derpchrys:


[07-Jul-20 06:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
So she can say whatever she wants.
Just ignore her, imo. Everything she says is cringe, even without the terf stuff.


[07-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Xenxc#4012
ignore twitter period


[07-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Xenxc#4012
says the guy who just posted a twitter link


[07-Jul-20 06:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
>trying to retcon booksto add black characters
Cringe


[07-Jul-20 06:28 AM] PwnyPony#6185
we were just asleep while reading the books to see how woke her books really are.


[07-Jul-20 06:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Meh


[07-Jul-20 06:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't read books for wokeness anyway.


[07-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Xenxc#4012
i still need to finish that one book about terraforming mars


[07-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Xenxc#4012
Red Mars i think


[07-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/elyments/

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[07-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Synfag#9241
India is an Information Technology juggernaut
so this can't be ignored.

the threat that is China is quite a big nudge.
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[07-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Synfag#9241
> *The app is the work of more than a thousand IT experts who work with Art of Living, a humanitarian foundation created by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. The launch of the app definitely impressed Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has been calling for a self-reliant India, after banning Chinese apps in the country in the last month.*
> 
> *India has since banned almost 60 Chinese-based apps, including TikTok. And, there has been an increase in the downloads of Indian-based apps.*


[07-Jul-20 06:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Xenxc I dont want facebook's tiktok to win tho. screw zucc


[07-Jul-20 07:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/06/health/spain-coronavirus-antibody-study-lancet-intl/index.html
Spain's coronavirus antibodies study adds evidence against herd imm...
Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200705115404-madrid-spain-coronavirus-lab-resrticted-super-tease.jpg


[07-Jul-20 07:58 AM] zylgchs#4073
I hope they ban TikTok in China as well :lurk:


[07-Jul-20 07:59 AM] zylgchs#4073
for being trash


[07-Jul-20 07:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Time to remove


[07-Jul-20 08:00 AM] zylgchs#4073
actually its more like a trashcan. perhaps its better to keep it that way


[07-Jul-20 08:49 AM] hf#3143
#BlackLivesMatter


[07-Jul-20 08:50 AM] hf#3143
are there Black people in the derpibooru team?


[07-Jul-20 09:44 AM] hf#3143
@wren unmute from #general-discussion pls


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] wren#0114
lmao


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] wren#0114
I didn't know a general mute existed


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] wren#0114
congratulations I guess


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] hf#3143
why do you hate Nyx so much?


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] hf#3143
my last two posts were about Nyx, while those other two bronies kept talking about politics


[07-Jul-20 09:45 AM] wren#0114
I haven't bothered to read the fanfic or whatever that spawned her


[07-Jul-20 09:46 AM] wren#0114
dyx is hotter


[07-Jul-20 09:46 AM] hf#3143
I demand justice and you either mute those two guys from general or you stop hating Nyx


[07-Jul-20 09:47 AM] wren#0114
I could hate you instead if you want


[07-Jul-20 09:47 AM] hf#3143
i am fine with that


[07-Jul-20 09:47 AM] wren#0114
I can't hate nyx because she's a pony


[07-Jul-20 09:47 AM] hf#3143
so can you now mute those guys for talking about politics in #general-discussion ?


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] wren#0114
why are you here?


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] hf#3143
where?


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] hf#3143
in this discord?


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] wren#0114
ye


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] hf#3143
because of Nyx posting


[07-Jul-20 09:48 AM] wren#0114
it's coming across like you're just baiting and trolling


[07-Jul-20 09:49 AM] hf#3143
nyx posting isn't trolling bro


[07-Jul-20 09:49 AM] wren#0114
nyx a cute


[07-Jul-20 09:49 AM] hf#3143
yes


[07-Jul-20 09:49 AM] hf#3143

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[07-Jul-20 09:51 AM] hf#3143
@Mani @Hmoorkin come here bros or you get muted


[07-Jul-20 09:51 AM] hf#3143
> I feel like society here goes way harder on gays rather than lesbians


[07-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you pinging those two into here?


[07-Jul-20 09:51 AM] hf#3143
because they talk about politics in #general-discussion ?


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Yes


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] hf#3143
while i didn't (anymore)


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Anyway


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] hf#3143
anyway


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Girls cute, girls good, people here like or at least accept lesbians


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
But gays are hated


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] hf#3143
i think that we think different about gays because penis into ass feels more degenerate and dirty than lesbians playing with toys


[07-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Probably


[07-Jul-20 09:53 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
I don't have that mindset, I don't mind either


[07-Jul-20 09:53 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
It's not like being gay makes you worse person


[07-Jul-20 09:53 AM] hf#3143
.... and thats kind of justified if you think how AIDS spreads and all those other illnesses that are infesting gay communities


[07-Jul-20 09:54 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
That's sort of whole other issue


[07-Jul-20 09:54 AM] hf#3143
idk, analsex is a pretty big part in spreading all sorts of disgusting illnessess


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] hf#3143
and maybe people are just naturally repelled by that


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
It's related but not the main reason why gays are hated here


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Idk about other countries


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is virtually none of the reason and it's nonsensical to consider hygiene like that.


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] hf#3143
well, they aren't hated in the west


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
Speaking of that


[07-Jul-20 09:55 AM] hf#3143
and theres one more, more controversial issue


[07-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex in general causes hygiene problems and the only huge difference with anal is that it's a bit easier to get blood to blood disease transmission (HIV).


[07-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Analingus is a whole other matter (fecal-oral route is no joke), of course.


[07-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
There was vote for constitution changes a while ago and there was anti gay propaganda video about it


[07-Jul-20 09:56 AM] hf#3143
you know those parts against homosexuality in the bible?
They all got written to fight against the boylovers during those times. Those parts are all about adult men who fuck boys.


[07-Jul-20 09:57 AM] hf#3143
and that kind of sticked to them. If people think about gays, pedophilia is always luring in the background


[07-Jul-20 09:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure the Old Testament didn't care about age differences.


[07-Jul-20 09:57 AM] hf#3143
even if it might be unjustified


[07-Jul-20 09:57 AM] hf#3143
Yeah, all those parts are in the New Testament


[07-Jul-20 09:57 AM] hf#3143
the Old one is a totally different story


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
They didn't want guys sleeping with anyone but the wife to try to maximize reproduction and definitiveness of parentage.


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] hf#3143
The new one got written to spread christianity and that was when they cared about those issues


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's complete nonsense.


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] hf#3143
The old one was already given at that time and unchangeable


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hardly anything in the New Testament is about sex.


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] hf#3143
Nope


[07-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tell what verses you're talking about.


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] hf#3143
check out the section of the bble that imply anything about homosexuality


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] hf#3143
and it is always about adult men fucking boys


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] wren#0114
that's in both


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, say what verses.


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] wren#0114
no, it's about men with men


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] hf#3143
besides the classical
>You shall not lie with a male as with a women


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's Leviticus.


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old Testament.


[07-Jul-20 09:59 AM] hf#3143
yes


[07-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
What are you talking about that's from the New Testament?


[07-Jul-20 10:00 AM] hf#3143
yeah, just looking for it, one minute


[07-Jul-20 10:03 AM] hf#3143
oh god


[07-Jul-20 10:05 AM] hf#3143
its literally just all interpretations stuff in the New one... i just had one in mind.


[07-Jul-20 10:05 AM] hf#3143
But if you read them, one thinks its about analxes, another one that its about homosexuality another one that its about boylove


[07-Jul-20 10:05 AM] hf#3143
just do the easy thing and use wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality

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The Bible and homosexuality
There are a number of passages in both the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament that have been interpreted as involving same-sex sexual acts and desires. These interpretations form the basis of Jewish and Christian attitudes towards homosexuality.
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[07-Jul-20 10:06 AM] hf#3143
if i would now post the one interpretation that i was talking about it wouldn't be fair


[07-Jul-20 10:06 AM] hf#3143
so i take it back, its not just about boy fuckers


[07-Jul-20 10:06 AM] hf#3143
its about... whatever people interpret into it


[07-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
https://youtu.be/D65AYLs9vVQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65AYLs9vVQ
Вирусный ремейк "Гея на передержке" за поправки в конституцию
Гомофобия «поправок» играет в данном случае важную роль. Для большинства обычных россиян запрет однополых браков — это «пряник», за которым стоит сходить на участок и вообще в целом поддержать нелепые поправки в конституцию. МЫ СЧИТАЕМ ПОДОБНУЮ АГИТАЦИЮ ТАК НАЗЫВАЕМОГО СМИ «РИ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D65AYLs9vVQ/hqdefault.jpg


[07-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Hmoorkin#2816
If anyone's interested


[07-Jul-20 10:07 AM] hf#3143
@Nebbie unmute me from #general-discussion


[07-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's the Matthew thing I think it's not reasonable to think it's about a child lover (the word probably basically meant a slave that was treated like a child).


[07-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you intend to not carry on with political stuff in General?


[07-Jul-20 10:08 AM] hf#3143
when you muted me i did nyx posting and not political posting, while others did


[07-Jul-20 10:08 AM] hf#3143
I will keep telling you to apply your own standard on yourself, would that bother you?


[07-Jul-20 10:09 AM] hf#3143
And yeah, i really would prefer not to go into the interpretation issue, i thought that it would have been more clear. But thinking about what that guy who wrote it 2000 years ago in a now dead language thought doesn't make much sense imho


[07-Jul-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see one nyx post after other posts about politics. I'm not sure that's a good indicator, and you dodged the question.


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And your response on the *pais* word thing is...also a dodge.


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] hf#3143
is it political when i tell you that you should apply your own standard on yourself?


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just start talking about the intent behind parts of the Bible and then switch to saying it doesn't make sense to talk about likely intents.


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] hf#3143
if it is, then yeah, i would post that again... if it isn't, then no, i would not


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're still dodging.


[07-Jul-20 10:11 AM] hf#3143
i said that i was mistaken


[07-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
I see no reason to believe you hav good intentions.


[07-Jul-20 10:12 AM] hf#3143
i claimed that the NewTestament gay stuff would be all about boy love


[07-Jul-20 10:12 AM] hf#3143
but that was just one interpretation and reality is that we don't know it and could argue for years what that guy meant by it 2000 years ago


[07-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's annoying when you come in to just accuse people, and it's political when you start getting into tons of issues about race.


[07-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Occam's razor.


[07-Jul-20 10:13 AM] hf#3143
you brought that upon yourself


[07-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not an excuse.


[07-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not taking excuses right now.


[07-Jul-20 10:14 AM] hf#3143
look, if you are on a non-political site about cartoon ponies, and you make a political statement... and then people hold you accountable for it... you can't just shut them down with "no politics here!"


[07-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the Discord server, and its general discussion channel is not for you to start drama about site policy.


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The support channel is for talking about policy.


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] hf#3143
you started the drama


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This channel is for talking about politics.


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not an excuse.


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This server is not for spilling spaghetti everywhere just because you think Derpi started it.


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] hf#3143
are you going to mute yourself for pushing politics onto the site and for starting drama?


[07-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make any sense.


[07-Jul-20 10:16 AM] hf#3143
you don't get it and tahts sad

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[07-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mutes are for people who refuse to abide by the rules and topic of a channel.


[07-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you want to put politics here, site policy issues in support, and general discussion (not drama BS) in general discussion?


[07-Jul-20 10:16 AM] hf#3143
can you just stop demanding things from others that you don't abide by yourself?


[07-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, this isn't even any longer a political discussion.


[07-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're just trying to agitate on policy.


[07-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can take your questions to the support channel if you stop making them loaded and nonsensical.


[07-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise, you  can enjoy a mute from this channel too.


[07-Jul-20 10:18 AM] hf#3143
i think i wrote about 10 times at least that its about applying your own standard on you


[07-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't start getting into a political argument about race in the general channel.


[07-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Support channel or be muted here.


[07-Jul-20 10:19 AM] hf#3143
and threatening a mute from this channel too, for something that again... you started... is a bit silly


[07-Jul-20 10:19 AM] hf#3143
come on, yuo have to see that


[07-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted here too.


[07-Jul-20 10:20 AM] wren#0114
will he take the triple crown?


[07-Jul-20 10:20 AM] wren#0114
stay tuned


[07-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's funny cause I'm not even the one who muted him from general.


[07-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/07/health/richard-quest-covid-wellness-intl/index.html

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I got Covid-19 two months ago. I'm still discovering new areas of d...
Two months after contracting covid-19, CNN anchor Richard Quest is still experiencing the long tail of the virus, including a recurrent cough, serious fatigue and unexplained clumsiness.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200420173301-richard-quest-super-tease.jpg


[07-Jul-20 01:50 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr: recovery doesn't mean you're healthy again


[07-Jul-20 01:52 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Over 300k now in America (included probably cases)


[07-Jul-20 01:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why the fuck is Trump still phrasing the healthcare system of America every single day?


[07-Jul-20 01:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Phrasing?


[07-Jul-20 01:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Praising


[07-Jul-20 01:57 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Damn


[07-Jul-20 01:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah


[07-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because america #1 always in everything
But mostly because saying it's the best means it doesn't need reform, which is what his political opponents are promoting; it's just political campaign trash


[07-Jul-20 02:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If America is the world's leader fighting against corona, then Soviet Union was the world's leader fighting against starvation


[07-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Florida's pretty much run out of ICU beds


[07-Jul-20 02:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We're getting close to seeing video of people treated in stretchers along hallways, the sort of thing associated with major disasters/attacks (and "lesser" countries)


[07-Jul-20 03:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463983827044401152/729989224480374784/image0.png

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[07-Jul-20 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[07-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uXxg1_1594073266

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Liveleak.com - Body cam footage released of Jacksonville officer sh...
Body camera footage has been released Monday in the police killing of..
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[07-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sYGDe_1594027288

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Liveleak.com - Denver. A Leftist Shit Hole
This is directly in front of the Denver state capital building. 
A to..
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[07-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=brlp_1593937376

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Liveleak.com - Protesters burn American flag in New York on Fourth ...
A group calling themselves the Revolution Club set alight the American..
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[07-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=vgkU_1593911352

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Liveleak.com - Call 911
Aftermath of impact at BLM I-5 Seattle protest
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[07-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ironic btw


[07-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/i/status/1279055041194651648

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Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray)
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Seattle cops have had enough. Love to see this.  https://t.co/YD7aYJrDmY
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[07-Jul-20 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.lacapitalmdp.com/aal-paro-de-colectivos-se-suma-el-reclamo-de-los-choferes-lineas-221-y-costa-azul/

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Al paro de colectivos, se suma el reclamo de los choferes líneas 22...
Al conflicto interno de Unión Tranviarios Automotor (UTA) que mantiene paralizado el servicio de transporte público en Mar del Plata se le sumó esta tarde un nuevo capítulo: los trabajadores de las líneas 221 y Costa Azul se manifestaron en la sede del sindicato para reclamar ...
https://storage.lacapitalmdp.com/2018/01/Colectivo-221.jpg


[07-Jul-20 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Strike by bus drivers in Argentina


[07-Jul-20 04:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, i'm glad the labor movement is making a comeback as of now


[07-Jul-20 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gives me hope


[07-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is it true that lots of nazi's moved to Argentina after ww2?


[07-Jul-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently it is


[07-Jul-20 04:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why do you ask?


[07-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No reason :derpchrys:


[07-Jul-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1280517860725530624?s=21

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[07-Jul-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh


[07-Jul-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat


[07-Jul-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Carlson being retarded as fuck


[07-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
9 minutes of Tucker is too much for me


[07-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's basically r63 Maddow


[07-Jul-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE DID IT https://apple.news/AJR2u5__7RouM5GN8ACS7Uw

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U.S. is 'looking at' banning TikTok and Chinese social media apps, ...
The comments from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo come amid rising tensions between the U.S. and China and as scrutiny on TikTok and Chinese technology firms continue to grow.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQURNWW1hR2xwVGpTU3pZejBTdVdtSGcAMA


[07-Jul-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
We save humanity


[07-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
All that's left is for them to ban facebook


[07-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Isn't TikTok owned by facebook?


[07-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Same with WhatsApp


[07-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
And Messenger


[07-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
And Instagram


[07-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
And Oculus


[07-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Honahue#0656
maybe partial owner but I think it's a Tencen thing


[07-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
hm


[07-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Honahue#0656
nope ByteDance


[07-Jul-20 05:41 PM] illumnious#7938
They actually ruined Instagram


[07-Jul-20 05:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh and Solly, messenger is Facebook


[07-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I know Instagram as one of those crapwares Samsung tried to cram down my throat alongside Facebook apps every time they released an update.


[07-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I know Messenger is Facebook


[07-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
That's why I mentioned it.


[07-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Facebook has a lot more messaging apps than Messenger tho


[07-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Honahue#0656
I deleted all my social media a while ago, cept discord


[07-Jul-20 05:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Nooooooooooo


[07-Jul-20 05:45 PM] illumnious#7938
I love my Instagram why would Facebook even owned that


[07-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Honahue#0656
damn actually I still have Steam too


[07-Jul-20 05:46 PM] illumnious#7938
Same


[07-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Honahue#0656
but I never talk to anyone on it


[07-Jul-20 05:46 PM] illumnious#7938
I barely use it


[07-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[07-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Blazy#0420
Omfg xD


[07-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Blazy#0420
:wheeze:


[07-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Blazy#0420
These motherfuckers


[07-Jul-20 05:53 PM] ononim#8141
Inceltoss


[07-Jul-20 05:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCWHXk4pFum/?igshid=176jaizmjdlgb

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[07-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Oh yeah, I forgot about booru.foalcon.com


[07-Jul-20 05:57 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
It's actually built better than rainbooru


[07-Jul-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/cnnbrasil/status/1280520369473019906?s=21

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[07-Jul-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bolsonaro just got corona 🦀


[07-Jul-20 05:57 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Who's Bolsonaro?


[07-Jul-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Brazil's far right buffoon president


[07-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Ah


[07-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Good for them


[07-Jul-20 06:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He made a point of saying covid was just a little flu, went around shops and gatherings hugging people and taking photos, then when people started dying went "People die, what do you want me to do about it?!"


[07-Jul-20 06:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[07-Jul-20 06:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He also said he's likely to survive corona if he catches it, claiming to have an "athlete's little body"


[07-Jul-20 06:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's a good mine of hot takes


[07-Jul-20 06:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[07-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
If he dies


[07-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Will anyone learn


[07-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/506186-jefferson-descendant-take-down-his-memorial#

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[07-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwUIDNYwZRY

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[07-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-bolsonaro-coronavirus-1.5640391


[07-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh wait everyone posted it before me


[07-Jul-20 06:34 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s dead isn’t he


[07-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[07-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Damn it


[07-Jul-20 06:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[07-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Says he's feeling "fine" now


[07-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/rwdadchat/status/1278548790413148162

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[07-Jul-20 06:35 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m waiting for this to get corona

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[07-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt he will, he's probably already taking a cocktail of every imaginable thing that could protect him


[07-Jul-20 06:38 PM] illumnious#7938
Hmmmmmm


[07-Jul-20 06:38 PM] illumnious#7938
But soon


[07-Jul-20 06:39 PM] illumnious#7938
If Miss Rona not going to kick his ass then something else will


[07-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Blazy#0420
Can we have JFK 2.0?


[07-Jul-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
:menacing2:


[07-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I expect Biden to catch the virus


[07-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the sort of thing that just _fits_ with this year


[07-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Blazy#0420
No jk can anyone please shot trump?


[07-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Blazy#0420
I give you 1000$


[07-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Blazy#0420
:raptorshy:


[07-Jul-20 06:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Trump is a germaphobe, and Biden can't keep his hands off people.

However, Trump works in the white house, which had had several positive tests so far.


[07-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Blazy#0420
Germaphobe?


[07-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Blazy#0420
Nvm


[07-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mycophobe is the correct term iirc


[07-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Xenxc#4012
>can we have JFK 2.0?
ah yes, because the assassination of the president of the US can only result in good things


[07-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Xenxc#4012
:derpchrys:


[07-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Xenxc#4012
well right after that they say "no jk can anyone please shot trump"


[07-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Xenxc#4012
so it kind of seems like they're referencing JFK's retirement, and not the rest of his presidency


[07-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Xenxc#4012
but e-coli isn't the leader of a country


[07-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Xenxc#4012
i


[07-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Xenxc#4012
...shit


[07-Jul-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Synfag#9241
whoever Biden picks for VP


[07-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Synfag#9241
will be the candidate for P


[07-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Synfag#9241
while Biden gets the C


[07-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Reginald#0534
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[07-Jul-20 08:55 PM] ononim#8141

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[07-Jul-20 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
RIP three fifths of espana


[07-Jul-20 09:04 PM] wren#0114
why is it so cold


[07-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Usually doesn't get that bad until August


[07-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also remember, most spanish cities are full of granite and whatever isn't is painted white


[07-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Walking out into the street is like walking into hell


[07-Jul-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Jul-20 09:15 PM] wren#0114

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[07-Jul-20 09:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump administration gives formal notice of withdrawal from WHO https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-administration-gives-formal-notice-withdrawal-who-n1233100

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Trump administration gives formal notice of withdrawal from WHO
A top Democrat said Tuesday that Congress was also notified of the president's move.
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[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
no interest in health


[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
:dab:


[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Xenxc#4012
hell yeah


[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Xenxc#4012
take that, globalism


[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Xenxc#4012
there is no world, only US


[07-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Xenxc#4012
🇺🇸 🦅


[07-Jul-20 09:37 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem isn't globalism it's globalized crapitalism


[07-Jul-20 09:37 PM] illumnious#7938
Operation kill everyone in the damm country


[07-Jul-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You can't be voted out if there's no one left alive to vote


[07-Jul-20 09:40 PM] wren#0114
specifically globalized capitalism where it's predatory and takes advantage of regions, resulting in impoverishing developing countries and making them reliant on foreign goods for even basics like food, without having national production value to be able to buy enough to survive and grow themselves


[07-Jul-20 09:46 PM] illumnious#7938
https://t.co/0Dn4mOgguR?amp=1

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Mary Trump’s Book Accuses the President of Embracing ‘Cheating as a...
The president’s niece, Mary L. Trump, is the first to break ranks with the family and release a tell-all memoir.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/07/us/politics/07dc-trumpbook/07dc-trumpbook-facebookJumbo.jpg


[07-Jul-20 10:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1280522307903950848?s=21

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Tammy Duckworth responds to Tucker Carlson after TV host questions her patriotism
The Illinois senator criticized the Fox News host on Monday after he accused the Army veteran of hating America during a segment on his program. Duckworth – who lost both of her legs while serving in Iraq – is speculated to be among Joe Biden's top candidates for his vice presidential running mate.
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[07-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
No one loses their legs in a war because they hate their country


[07-Jul-20 11:13 PM] HerdAnon#6614
My grandfather spent 30 years in the navy so his family and him would be set for life. It is definitely paying off for him.


[07-Jul-20 11:14 PM] HerdAnon#6614
He told me not to do it. Said that unless it's a war I support or agree with don't join, you'll just be another cog to the machine.


[07-Jul-20 11:20 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I personally think he gives good advice, we have difference in political beliefs, but in the end he taught that if we don't communicate the American way is lost. The people who seek to destroy us have won. My grandfather is a self proclaimed 'pinko', but he adamantly supports the freedom of speech.


[07-Jul-20 11:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[08-Jul-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-lincoln-project-video-loyalty-campaign-2020-a9606021.html

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Devastating anti-Trump Republican ad tells president his entire inn...
Many of the Lincoln Project's ads are designed to use the president's own psychological tendencies against him
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[08-Jul-20 12:05 AM] RYDE#8862
Why am I reminded about red vs blue when the guy in the show I can't remember his name when he said the red and blue were all the same.


[08-Jul-20 12:07 AM] alphasocke#7866
BLM killed more black people in riots in a month than cops did in the whole past year


[08-Jul-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
I spy with my little eye


[08-Jul-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I spy with my little eye


[08-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
A Iranian war


[08-Jul-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
This OC is qt

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[08-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Hook


[08-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Arrh


[08-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Pirate


[08-Jul-20 12:11 AM] RYDE#8862
Does this pony have a name?


[08-Jul-20 12:11 AM] byte[]#2610
bait pone


[08-Jul-20 12:14 AM] alphasocke#7866
more black people get murdered by other blacks in chicago in one single week than by the police in one whole year


[08-Jul-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:14 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:16 AM] alphasocke#7866
@Raptorshy @Nebbie can you please enforce your rules?


[08-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponkthonk:


[08-Jul-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
you mean the rules against posting obvious flamebait  and arguing in bad faith? :^)


[08-Jul-20 12:17 AM] alphasocke#7866
wheres the rule against posting politics in politics?

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[08-Jul-20 12:17 AM] alphasocke#7866
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An 8-year-old was fatally shot in Atlanta near Wendy's restaurant w...
An 8-year-old was fatally shot Saturday night across the street from the Wendy's restaurant where Rayshard Brooks was killed, police said.
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[08-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Where’s the rule about mandated gay shit


[08-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
NO


[08-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
NOT WENDYS


[08-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@alphasocke Are you asking me to ban you? I really can't tell.

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[08-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Granted I haven't backread much


[08-Jul-20 12:18 AM] alphasocke#7866
now i would love to hear your reasoning?


[08-Jul-20 12:18 AM] alphasocke#7866
:ponythinking:


[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
is it only 
> flamebait and arguing in bad faith
if staff disagree with it?


[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] alphasocke#7866
>NOO, YOU CANT SAY THAT BLM KILLED MORE BLACKS IN A MONTH THAN THE POLICE IN A YEAR


[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] alphasocke#7866
bro,


[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] alphasocke#7866
its politics


[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Jul-20 12:19 AM] alphasocke#7866
you say its flaming because you have a different opinion and so its offending you?


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] alphasocke#7866
whats flamebait about posting simple facts and politics in a politics channel?


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] alphasocke#7866
If politics offend you, then maybe don't look into this channel?


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it's because it's an informal fallacy about the purpose of BLM


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
No, because you're baiting people rather than intelligently discussing it with people.


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
you're _intentionally_ arguing in bad faith


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You're trying to get a rise


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So stop


[08-Jul-20 12:20 AM] alphasocke#7866
@byte[] it is not a fallacy, it is a fact, there are more daeths thanks to riots than thanks to the police in a whole year


[08-Jul-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
@alphasocke go read me off the wiki definition of informal fallacy


[08-Jul-20 12:21 AM] alphasocke#7866
go tell me whats wrong about politics in politcs


[08-Jul-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
well? we're waiting


[08-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I wouldn't say BLM is directly killing people. I'd say that it's more bad actors that have taken an oppurtunity to use peacful protesting to mask their rioting and malicious intent to—

Oh right this is bait


[08-Jul-20 12:21 AM] alphasocke#7866
@Raptorshy how is a simple fact baiting?


[08-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You're coming off aggressive rather than providing actual sources to back up your claims. You're yelling out something and when nobody responded you pinged me into the chat.


[08-Jul-20 12:23 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
Also byte's still waiting


[08-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe he just wants a hug :scared:

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[08-Jul-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
he left


[08-Jul-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
lol


[08-Jul-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
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Millions of dollars in federal coronavirus aid through the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) were given to businesses owned by major donors to President Trump,
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[08-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Aw. He didn't take *my* bait either. :depressed:


[08-Jul-20 12:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
did he leave or was he banned?


[08-Jul-20 12:37 AM] jlun2#8758
> The loans would be forgivable if the companies spent the funding on payroll, rent or other approved expenses. 
or be orange man's buddy


[08-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Blazy#0420
This is my politic answer to Trump.

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[08-Jul-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
strong advisory that saying you intend to shoot people gets you put on watchlists


[08-Jul-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
especially the president


[08-Jul-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
in fact idk if thats even allowed by the rules here


[08-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Eh, it's real murky. It's a bit different when it's a figure in popular culture (legally I mean) unless action is actually taken. If you're repeating it a lot I'mma have to tell you to chill though.


[08-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Blazy#0420
>I am in Germany, how the fuck should i shot someone from here.
And second this is a Signal gun, that means i cant shot bullets. But i can shot Pyrotechnic ammunition. Which isnt deadly. (It cause hurt you. Like a bleeding wound or severe burns)


[08-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Blazy#0420
||Btw my FBI agent, i totally like trump and i dont wanna shot him ^:)||


[08-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
... was there even a source for their ridiculous claim that "BLM" has killed more people than the police this year?


[08-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Crow#5457
even if that was obviously bait


[08-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Blazy#0420
I havent seen a claim.


[08-Jul-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
no sauce


[08-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think I saw a similar claim last week.


[08-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/730183214940815460
> BLM killed more black people in riots in a month than cops did in the whole past year


[08-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the source was wikipedia I think.


[08-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the claim is death in riots = death caused by BLM > death caused by cops


[08-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that this would mean a death caused by a racist storming into the riots opening fire would be seen as caused by BLM.


[08-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hekkler's veto.


[08-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
2020, there's been 105 blacks killed by the police


[08-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
so far


[08-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
there's not really an updated definitive number of people who've been killed by the protests available, but even the largest number I've found for total deaths is smaller than the total number of blacks killed by police


[08-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Crow#5457
I think they tried to change it to be about blacks killed in chicago by gang violence vs how many killed by police when they realized how ridiculous their original claim was


[08-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Crow#5457
but then switched back to "more blacks killed in a month than police killed in a year" when his bait was called out


[08-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
and for the record, there's no rule against calling out and mocking bait, and bait by its very nature is a form of bad faith argumentation


[08-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Crow#5457
that's without mentioning that the aforementioned bait was fake to begin with


[08-Jul-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And don't forget, the number of total deaths killed by the protests more than likely *includes* people killed by the police. Don't be surprised if the deaths resulting from an altercation with the police get tallied in the "BLM" column and don't count towards the "police" column at the same time


[08-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It hit me today, this would be a good national anthem


[08-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4ZwyYJYbQ

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Ian Berwick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4ZwyYJYbQ
Civil War Song: Battle Cry of Freedom
Battle Cry of Freedom, also known as Rally 'Round the Flag, was written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.
This version is from the film 'Lincoln'.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bW4ZwyYJYbQ/sddefault.jpg


[08-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here, I'll even modernize it


[08-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's another form of implicit victim blaming


[08-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
the US seems to have a victim blaming complex


[08-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
probably comes from fucking over the natives and south america


[08-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
"it's their fault that they democratically elected a leftist government! they deserved to be destroyed by the far right dictators that we supported that agreed to give our businesses free rein to fuck over their economy!"


[08-Jul-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/506312-woman-fired-for-yelling-white-lives-are-better-at-black-lives

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Woman fired for yelling 'white lives are better' at Black Lives Mat...
A white woman in Tennessee who was seen yelling “white lives are better” during a Black Lives Matter protest in a video that has gone viral has since been fired,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/holtsonya_wjhl.png


[08-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
yikes


[08-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/463619-florida-official-interrupts-awards-ceremony-to-confront-police

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Florida official interrupts awards ceremony to confront officer he ...
A Florida city commissioner surprised the crowd last week during an awards ceremony for Broward County police officers when he confronted a deputy who he said had previously “falsely arrested” him.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/floridaofficerinterrupt_093019_youtube.jpg


[08-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Looks like people are mad about the call-out.


[08-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The officer completely made shit up about the incident, note.


[08-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it surprising people are mad when racist officers make shit up and later are still serving, getting awards?


[08-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Honahue#0656
damn that was cold


[08-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is by raining ice upon their warmth that racists will truly be shown the door in the end.


[08-Jul-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/06/revised_earn_it_act/

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You may be distracted by the pandemic but FYI: US Senate panel OK's...
Proposed Section 230 shake-up passes committee stage with amendments
https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/08/20/shutterstock_681265594.jpg


[08-Jul-20 04:56 AM] byte[]#2610
likely will pass


[08-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we talked about before, the House is the real question.


[08-Jul-20 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
*tears of joy incoming* https://t.co/HrgcCYoEns?amp=1

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What we learned from Mary Trump's damning portrait of her uncle
Seeking to prevent nothing less than the "end of American democracy," Donald Trump's niece Mary lays out a long and twisted saga of mind games and family drama in a new book her family attempted to block.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200707121229-mary-l-trump-mobapp-super-tease.jpg


[08-Jul-20 04:58 AM] illumnious#7938
thank you


[08-Jul-20 05:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Who will be the next one infected corona?


[08-Jul-20 05:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Modi or Trump? I bet Modi


[08-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
I was hoping to avoid this channel but a blog post on fimfiction was bugging me enough to talk in this channel just this once


[08-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
he was linking some other author's blog post on some politics or something, normally I'm not into politics but I like that author so I humor him a bit by continuing to read


[08-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
and what did he post at the end?
```And just because I can never resist throwing in my ill-considered and inflammatory two cents: Being "not-political" is a political stance, and one that usually comes from privilege and laziness, if not outright sociopathy.```


[08-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
oh, and this "other author's blog post", I might as well share it here since other people I'm following posted blog posts with the link to that blog post


[08-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/908565/a-blog-about-that-atlantic-business-fandom-and-politics

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A blog about that Atlantic business, fandom, and politics.
So, in light of a certain article that a certain paper recently printed that’s been going the rounds and drawing a lot of comment for… understandable reasons, I felt like trying to put my thoughts together. That was weeks ago. It took me that long. And since this is such a lar...
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[08-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
I dunno, consider this something I'd get out of my back or some two cents I like to throw at you guys from time to time or maybe because I'm bored atm sitting on my computer wondering what to do


[08-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
so yeah


[08-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
~~sometimes I act like a sociopath here so that probably explains my choice to not go political from time to time.~~


[08-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
~~I'm also an idiot for also going in this channel too, kek~~


[08-Jul-20 05:12 AM] byte[]#2610
meandering mess of words


[08-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
*shrugs*


[08-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
sorry about that byte[]


[08-Jul-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
not yours


[08-Jul-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
the journal author's


[08-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
oh


[08-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I gotta say


[08-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Can we just


[08-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Caesar the senate


[08-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
do what Caesar's Legion would do


[08-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
blow up the Brotherhood of Steel bunker


[08-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
What good is the BoS-
*remembers Veronica*
Ah fuck


[08-Jul-20 05:19 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I loved Fallout New Vegas


[08-Jul-20 05:19 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Every side had flaws.


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Still tho


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Every side had reason


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I don’t like the earn it bill


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Earn it bill?


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ya know


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
No porn


[08-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Allowing people to rummage through your data


[08-Jul-20 05:21 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I... what?


[08-Jul-20 05:21 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Sorry I've not payed much attention to any political stuff today. What happened now?


[08-Jul-20 05:22 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Or it some vidya thing?


[08-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Pretty much a bill that opens a backside for police and also forces sites to earn their legal protection


[08-Jul-20 05:24 AM] HerdAnon#6614
...no.


[08-Jul-20 05:24 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought they removed the earned part tho


[08-Jul-20 05:25 AM] HerdAnon#6614
This is why we should have burned the NSA


[08-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Did I mention it’ll eradicate badbads


[08-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah they removed the parts that would require a third party to monitor all data.


[08-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they kept the exception to Section 230.


[08-Jul-20 05:26 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Every American has their right to privacy. If they want to invade that then we should be allowed access to the politicians personally computers any time or place we want. It's only fair


[08-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, this would mean that like, Cloudflare would be responsible for CP if any site under it had CP.


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This would instantly drive Cloudflare out of the US.


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cannot monitor every single file stored on its servers like that.


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It *should not* monitor every single file stored on its servers.


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
But then again


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Leave it to the government to take freedom. This is why 2a exist.


[08-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOSTA was the same shit, but already passed, and for prostitution.


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't basically said "if you don't police ads against use by prostitutes, you're liable"


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So craigslast had to take an entire section off its site.


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many sites stopped having personal ads altogether.


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I gotta say


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why haven’t we killed the government yet


[08-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason to hav Section 230 is so that if you just put a platform, you don't hav to go in and fukking monitor what people do if you don't want to.


[08-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone's illegal activity using like, your private messaging service shouldn't be your responsibility.


[08-Jul-20 05:29 AM] HerdAnon#6614
But think of it. If they have the right to invade our personal lives/privacy why can't we invade theirs?


[08-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean we can


[08-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the same way we don't go after AT&T just because criminals call each other with phones.


[08-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
We just need armaments


[08-Jul-20 05:30 AM] HerdAnon#6614
But we have to go through hundreds of court demands and what have you. These people can do it whenever thet want, and it's unconstitutional.


[08-Jul-20 05:30 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Then they wonder why people hate them.


[08-Jul-20 05:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sir Frosty because boomer voters dont use the internet much & the younger ppl that do dont vote


[08-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people with jobs are not given time off to vote.


[08-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people without jobs struggle to get to polling places.


[08-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system is against young people.


[08-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US voting system is stupid.


[08-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting should be a right to a complete day off.


[08-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting day should be a national holiday.


[08-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should be able to miss a day of work.

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[08-Jul-20 05:32 AM] HerdAnon#6614
>"Oh come on guys, you don't need guns, I mean, why would we become tyrannical?"
>"You deserve no privacy."


[08-Jul-20 05:38 AM] jlun2#8758
so...what happens if this pass & the encryption backdoor gets leaked to other countries?


[08-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't put out of committee with bakkdooring.


[08-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/design_law/status/1280464078134226945/

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Sarah Burstein (@design_law)
https://twitter.com/design_law/status/1280464078134226945/
An Oklahoma bar applicant forwarded me this response from the OKBBE (sent early yesterday). 

Despite all the well-founded safety concerns that have been raised by applicants, local law deans, and others, "the bar exam will proceed as scheduled on July 28-29, 2020."
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Twitter


[08-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Have to check that mask for note cards, I guess.


[08-Jul-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672441087394185247/730273078029844511/7d9896d9ff.png

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[08-Jul-20 06:06 AM] jlun2#8758
UBI pls tbh


[08-Jul-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
UBS is more resilient


[08-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Xenxc#4012
i just want more money for working during a pandemic


[08-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Xenxc#4012
i am putting my life at risk for $8.85 an hour


[08-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656

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[08-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Yes


[08-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:GWvertiPeepoSalute:


[08-Jul-20 07:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2020/07/07/Eagles-condemn-DeSean-Jacksons-appalling-anti-Semitic-messages/3241594161585/

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Eagles condemn DeSean Jackson's 'appalling' anti-Semitic messages
The Philadelphia Eagles on Tuesday denounced anti-Semitic messages that wide receiver DeSean Jackson posted on social media, and said the team would take "appropriate action."
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[08-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Synfag#9241

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[08-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/8ldsxx8g7s211.jpg

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[08-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/politics/mary-trump-book-donald-trump/index.html

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Mary Trump's scathing book claims Trump paid someone to take his SATs
Donald Trump's niece Mary Trump levels scathing criticism at the President in her forthcoming book, accusing him of being a "sociopath" and charging that Trump's "hubris and willful ignorance" dating back to his early days threatens the country.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200617102028-mary-l-trump-book-cover-super-tease.jpg


[08-Jul-20 08:22 AM] jlun2#8758
speaking of which, I wonder did anything change after the college scandal or nah lol


[08-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/nehathemartian/status/1280491726206091271

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schrödinger's cat. (@nehathemartian)
https://twitter.com/nehathemartian/status/1280491726206091271
i just stumbled upon these articles and quite honestly, the distinction between real and performative faith could never be any clearer
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[08-Jul-20 12:16 PM] Synfag#9241
https://breaking911.com/12-year-old-boy-accused-of-attempted-rape/

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12-Year-Old Boy Charged In Attempted Rape In New York City - Breaki...
NEW YORK — A 12-year-old boy was arrested Tuesday evening in connection with the violent attempted rape of a woman in Ridgewood, Queens. WPIX reported: The incident happened at 8 a.m. on Monday in the vicinity of Gates Avenue and Cypress Avenue. A 37-year-old woman returned ho...
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[08-Jul-20 12:34 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jul/06/upward-thrusting-buildings-ejaculating-cities-sexist-leslie-kern-phallic-feminist-city-toxic-masculinity

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'Upward-thrusting buildings ejaculating into the sky' – do cities h...
Toxic masculinity is built into the fabric of our urban spaces, writes Leslie Kern, author of new book Feminist City. And the results aren’t just divisive – they can be lethal
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[08-Jul-20 12:34 PM] Synfag#9241
> *'Upward-thrusting buildings ejaculating into the sky' – do cities have to be so sexist?*

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[08-Jul-20 12:34 PM] Synfag#9241
current state of *The Guardian*


[08-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Crow#5457
> As far back as 1977, an American poet and professor of architecture named Dolores Hayden wrote an article with the explosive headline “Skyscraper seduction, skyscraper rape”. Hayden tore into the male power fantasies embodied in this celebrated urban form. The office tower, she wrote, is one more addition “to the procession of phallic monuments in history – including poles, obelisks, spires, columns and watchtowers”, where architects un-ironically use the language of “base, shaft and tip” while drawing upward-thrusting buildings ejaculating light into the night sky.

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[08-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/nickyoung-questionmarks-what-excuseme-huh-gif-4486363

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????
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[08-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
:nut::nut::nut:


[08-Jul-20 01:15 PM] ononim#8141
Fuck bourgie femenism all my homie hate bourgie femenism


[08-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Crow#5457
god damn that was a whole lotta concentrated bait with a side of [citation needed]


[08-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah no


[08-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/jk-rowling-margaret-atwood-cancel-culture-letter-1234700812/

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Naman Ramachandran
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J.K. Rowling, Margaret Atwood Among 150 Figures to Sign Letter Cond...
“Harry Potter” writer J.K Rowling, “Handmaid’s Tale” author Margaret Atwood and “Midnight’s Children” writer Salman Rushdie are amongst 150 public fi…
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[08-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Crow#5457
in other news


[08-Jul-20 01:33 PM] illumnious#7938
> Modi or Trump? I bet Modi
@AlchemistLiang  just fucking get Trump


[08-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Modi like


[08-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Magni and modi?


[08-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/07/07/san-francisco-lawmaker-introduces-caren-act-to-deter-false-racially-biased-911-calls/#2b12497b6942

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San Francisco Lawmaker Introduces ‘CAREN Act’ To Deter False, Racia...
The Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies Act would allow the person who was harmed to seek civil remedy through the courts.
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[08-Jul-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
dumb meme legislation


[08-Jul-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
it's already illegal to do that


[08-Jul-20 04:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/08/trump-health-secretary-says-us-healthcare-workers-dont-get-infected-covid-19-94000

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While the true toll Covid-19 has taken on healthcare workers is not yet known, one investigation found that more than 760 have died from the virus.
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[08-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why does trump look bloodshot


[08-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Did he get tanning spray in his eyes


[08-Jul-20 05:10 PM] illumnious#7938
lul

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[08-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/politics/trump-cdc-school-guidelines-funding/index.htmlTrump logic: spending money on a useless ass wall and defending a statue that isn't even his: fine

Opening schools safely: too expensive


[08-Jul-20 05:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1280853299600789505?s=21

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In Germany, Denmark, Norway,  Sweden and many other countries, SCHOOLS ARE OPEN WITH NO PROBLEMS. The Dems think it would be bad for them politically if U.S. schools open before the November Election, but is important for the children & families. May cut off funding if not op...
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[08-Jul-20 05:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Once again, Europe controlling the virus but America is a fucking blunt


[08-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah idk how he gets off compareing Germany and norway to the us


[08-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Both are smaller with lower pop dencenty


[08-Jul-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s what I want to know myself


[08-Jul-20 05:37 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod/status/1280883704496177152?s=21

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THE COVID 19

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[08-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Synfag#9241

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[08-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that is not what would happen. Dishonest.


[08-Jul-20 05:51 PM] ononim#8141
Pretty sure social workers already deal with that shit die


[08-Jul-20 05:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Synfag reminded me of this
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/18/qatar-accidental-vagina-stadium-al-wakrah-world-cup-stadium

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Qatar's accidental vagina stadium is most gratifying | Holly Baxter
Holly Baxter: The resemblance of the Al-Wakrah World Cup stadium to the female genitalia can only be a good thing – sport and vaginas are not always such public bedfellows
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[08-Jul-20 06:02 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kinda looks like puffy lips


[08-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, labia


[08-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Your mother


[08-Jul-20 06:16 PM] ononim#8141
unf yonic architecture


[08-Jul-20 06:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
`as a big feminist middle finger to the men who had made her live in the shadow of their huge metal penis replacements for decades.`
Oh come on. People build towers because it saves us surface area.


[08-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Xenxc#4012
no it's obviously because men like waving their big penises around

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[08-Jul-20 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Jul-20 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
This is the worst


[08-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Walking Facebook Man


[08-Jul-20 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938

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[08-Jul-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
I fucking hate this

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[08-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kanye on communism


[08-Jul-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh no wheeeez

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[08-Jul-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
CONFUSION OF THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN


[08-Jul-20 07:34 PM] illumnious#7938
The biggest joke

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[08-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Topping off the year with President Kanye West would be the most 2020 thing yet


[08-Jul-20 07:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Send me back to 2015 fuck my life for god’s sake


[08-Jul-20 07:49 PM] illumnious#7938
For more blunt ass news

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[08-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/hong-kong-security-law-sends-chills-through-taiwan-were-next-2258302

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'We Could Be Next': Hong Kong Security Law Sends Chills Through Taiwan
The imposition of a sweeping national security law on Hong Kong has sent chills through Taiwan, deepening fears that Beijing will focus next on seizing the democratic self-ruled island.
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[08-Jul-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That'd require military action


[08-Jul-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China tried that before three times, notably in 1996 when a pro-independence politician was running for president of Taiwan


[08-Jul-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They backed off due to US pressure


[08-Jul-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But things might be different this time


[08-Jul-20 08:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1280874496891564032?s=21

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Trump threatens to cut funding from schools that won’t reopen
President Trump said on Wednesday that he might cut funding from schools that don’t reopen, accusing Democrats of political motives for delaying school openings. He also criticized CDC guidelines, comparing them to those upheld other countries for schools that have reopened, despite the fact that reports show such countries also had to follow strict measures in order to reopen schools and still face substantial difficulties.
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[08-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Xenxc#4012
i feel like at this point India is just looking for a reason to go to war against china


[08-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Xenxc#4012
so it'd probably be india + the US + whoever else vs China


[08-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US talks big game re china, but I don't see them wanting to tank the economy over practically any issue


[08-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that all these countries have nukes


[08-Jul-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought trump was itching to use nukes tho because dumb


[08-Jul-20 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/yu5l9qz96n951.jpg

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[08-Jul-20 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
Wheeeeeeeeeeeze


[08-Jul-20 10:25 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[08-Jul-20 10:25 PM] illumnious#7938
:spray:


[08-Jul-20 10:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:bad_horse:


[08-Jul-20 10:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>Kanye on Abortion
>Kanye on Coronavirus


[08-Jul-20 10:38 PM] illumnious#7938
The biggest fuck


[08-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Why am I not surprised :hopeless:


[08-Jul-20 10:38 PM] illumnious#7938
The dude is a rapper tho


[08-Jul-20 10:38 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuuuuuuuck


[08-Jul-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/democratic-task-forces-send-biden-progressive-policy-roadmap-n1233198

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Democratic task forces send Biden a progressive policy roadmap
The recommendations reflect areas of consensus reached after weeks of deliberations between allies of the presumptive Democratic nominee and Bernie Sanders.
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[08-Jul-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
when is the last time you looked at Kanye and thought, "yeah, this guy is down to earth and socially aware"


[08-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Never tbh


[08-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Not since he wore The Hat™, anyway


[08-Jul-20 10:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Make Red Hats Wearable Again

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[08-Jul-20 10:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd say not since imma let you finish, if not earlier


[08-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
istg it's gonna be Halloween and Biden still won't have announced a running mate


[08-Jul-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for the thing Its linked, I think this pretty well demonstrates that Sanders works exceptionally well from the sidelines and is likely going to punch way above his weight class in pushing the DNC away from centrism


[08-Jul-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
again


[08-Jul-20 10:45 PM] Marukomuru#8409
It's very telling when a person could be emblazoned in all kinds of nazi imagery and I'd only be Very Concerned, but if someone was wearing The Hat™ I'd literally walk around at least two blocks just to avoid them


[08-Jul-20 10:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, it was entirely because of his efforts to make Iowa transparent that the whole thing fell apart


[08-Jul-20 10:45 PM] byte[]#2610
those are the same people


[08-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Not even just crossing the street anymore. Just nope right the fuck out of there.


[08-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
One could just be a historical collector


[08-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The other's clearly a buffoon


[08-Jul-20 10:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I tend not to see people wearing their war trophies in public


[08-Jul-20 10:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then again, I'd expect that a fair few historical reenactors playing confederates are doing so because they believe they should've won, even as they fall down in a field because something made a loud noise on the other side


[08-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Some spicy bits from the recommendation for the Dem Party platform from Biden's "task force" with Sanders


[08-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Marijuana: Decriminalize marijuana use and legalize marijuana for medical purposes at the
federal level. Allow states to make their own decisions about legalizing recreational use.
Automatically expunge all past marijuana convictions for use and possession.`


[08-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Death Penalty: Abolish the death penalty at the federal level, and incentivize states to follow the
federal government’s example.`


[08-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Appointments: Appoint federal judges who have demonstrated a commitment to criminal justice
reform, and who have diverse backgrounds and experiences, including as public defenders, legal
aid attorneys, and civil rights lawyers.`


[08-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Private Prisons & Detention Centers: End the use of private prisons and detention centers,
including for immigration offenses.`


[08-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Beyond that immediate relief, Democrats will also take steps to ease the burden of high monthly
student loan payments by pausing monthly billing and stopping interest from accruing on federal
student loans for people earning less than $25,000, and capping payments at no more than 5
percent of discretionary income for those earning more than $25,000. After 20 years, remaining
federal student loan debt should be automatically forgiven.`


[08-Jul-20 11:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
please sir can I have some more


[08-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Voting Rights: Restore the right to vote for all formerly incarcerated individuals.`


[08-Jul-20 11:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly, all of this stuff should be the kind of thing that gets a "why do we need a new law for this, this is already the case" reaction


[08-Jul-20 11:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and it's pretty horrific that it isn't


[08-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's no Green New Deal.


[08-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No UBI, no Electoral College reform, etc


[08-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's a big one


[08-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Issue an executive order to prevent companies from receiving federal contracts that
outsource jobs overseas, pay workers less than $15 an hour without benefits, refuse to
remain neutral in union organizing efforts, hire workers to replace striking workers, or
close businesses after workers vote to unionize.`


[09-Jul-20 12:36 AM] jimm#1439
hm

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[09-Jul-20 12:52 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/08/covid-travel-bans-americans/


[09-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506486-supreme-court-expands-religious-rights-with-trio-of-rulings

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Supreme Court expands religious rights with trio of rulings
The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld the Trump administration's expansion of ObamaCare birth control exemptions for employers, marking the third time in about a week that the court has issued decisions broadening religious rights.
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[09-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`In a concurring opinion, Thomas argued that the court’s current treatment of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, which functions as a sort of counterweight to the free exercise clause, unduly interferes with states’ ability to support religious activities.

“So long as this hostility remains, fostered by our distorted understanding of the Establishment Clause, free exercise rights will continue to suffer,” Thomas, joined by Gorsuch, wrote.`


[09-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>States' ability to support religious activities


[09-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean the _exact_ thing that they should not be doing?


[09-Jul-20 01:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
>distorted


[09-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind


[09-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Montana ruling isn't what's shitty here.


[09-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Thomas thinks _individual states_ should be able to establish a state religion.


[09-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a technical dispute over whether religious schools can be excluded from general school funds.


[09-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the other 2 things that are shitty.


[09-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If they can't be, end the program that gives secular schools the funds.


[09-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The first thing says that like


[09-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
any employer who has moral issues with contraceptives can deny them


[09-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
because EXECUTIVE ALL POWERFUL


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The second thing says that catholic schools are immune to basically all discrimination suits.


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
One was over age, another illness.


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn, that's a shitload of immunity a religious school has


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They've basically said that a catholic school can use anything it wants to discriminate, federal protected class or not.


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This lays the groundwork for religious schools that expel students for being gay.


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well I mean that was kind of the case already, at least with churches etc


[09-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And teachers.


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's really shitty.


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You shouldn't be exempt by being a religion.


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
What happened to the peyote ruling?


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which said that you can still ban peyote even if it's done for religious reasons.


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now suddenly you can ban gay people entirely.


[09-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't just throw out Title VII


[09-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really, I know the reason.


[09-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao Do Vegetal_


[09-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rules for Native Americans, not for Christians.


[09-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
If some Native American-run school threw out a "double spirited" teacher for being such, they'd be shat on immediately.


[09-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Christian school? No problem.


[09-Jul-20 01:13 AM] jlun2#8758
i assume if someone made a muslim school & fired gays they'd be sued yet if it was christain its fine?


[09-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically.


[09-Jul-20 01:14 AM] jlun2#8758
have the boomers demonized their own religion enough yet


[09-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Didn't you once say that the feds should deny government contracts if they pay employees under $15?


[09-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
The feds should use their contracting power to enact social reform.


[09-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well this is in the Biden-Sanders "unity task force" document


[09-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Issue an executive order to prevent companies from receiving federal contracts that
outsource jobs overseas, pay workers less than $15 an hour without benefits, refuse to
remain neutral in union organizing efforts, hire workers to replace striking workers, or
close businesses after workers vote to unionize.`


[09-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes:


[09-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scroll up to see more but tl;dr


[09-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ban death penalty at federal level and encourage states to do it too, decriminalize marijuana federally, legalize at federal level for medicinal use, leave recreational to states


[09-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No private prisons, including detention centers


[09-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Appoint only criminal justice activists as judges/justices


[09-Jul-20 01:17 AM] jimm#1439
my only problem with death penalty is false convictions


[09-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Melody996633/status/1280893069467025408

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@murray_nyc @realDonaldTrump I‘m a German in Germany. the plan is to possibly open them after the vacation. But that is not certain. Since our government has followed the recommendations of scientists closely, our case numbers are relatively small. We don't want to risk that....
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[09-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
listening to SCIENTISTS???


[09-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
what are you, some kind of godless heathen?


[09-Jul-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
are the religious folks aware the more they force their religion the more they get hated


[09-Jul-20 01:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's usually some rhetoric about revealing the true nature of heretics and nonbelievers and so on


[09-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
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One of many women
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[09-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit this thread is a ride


[09-Jul-20 01:37 AM] wren#0114

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[09-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
A lot of that Biden-Sanders thing sounds a lot like wishful thinking


[09-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
it sounds *too* good


[09-Jul-20 01:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's actually watered down from GND


[09-Jul-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, it is quite literally wishful thinking


[09-Jul-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's saying "we, the really important and powerful voices who want to back you, wish you would do these things"


[09-Jul-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The right has had something similar for quite some time in the form of infamous think tank Heritage Fund's presidential mandate (which is a wishlist of conservative and alt-right things they want a president to do, which trump has accomplished quite a bit of despite being incapable of delivering on his own actual campaign promises, and THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING)


[09-Jul-20 01:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Pretty sure poking a hole in a condom falls under a type of rape. it is the same as secretly removing a condom during sex I think. It is changing what the circumstances were that they consented to without their knowledge. He should have been arrested when he admitted to it before it got to the stalking.


[09-Jul-20 02:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What the fuck


[09-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/halaljew/status/1280938122587574276

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[09-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
COVID is a serious thing that should not be mocked, but in this case I'm basically obligated to laugh.


[09-Jul-20 02:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
big gay masks 😷  🏳️‍🌈


[09-Jul-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Xenxc#4012
based bolsonaro


[09-Jul-20 02:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Ballsack nero


[09-Jul-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/32-percent-of-us-households-missed-their-july-housing-payments.html

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32% of U.S. households missed their July housing payments
July marks the fourth month in a row that a "historically high" number of households were unable to pay their housing bill on time and in full.
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[09-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ngl


[09-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I kinda hope bolsonaro doesn’t get the cure


[09-Jul-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Snortrax/status/1280930727693975552

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Kota 🐾 (@Snortrax)
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Hey just a heads up: tr//ump passed the legal ability to discriminate against trans people medically and IMMEDIATELY I am being denied coverage for my hormones that I’ve been on for four years even with a doctor writing an appeal so this shit is not just a threat it’s not jus...
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[09-Jul-20 04:01 AM] jimm#1439
a lot of the time I feel like covid is what humanity deserves, probably deserves even worse


[09-Jul-20 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except that for the most part, the people who "deserve" it most are the ones most sheltered from the consequences of making it worse

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[09-Jul-20 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the ones who've been punched down their entire lives are also the hardest hit


[09-Jul-20 04:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
IOW if god is real, he's a one-percenter

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[09-Jul-20 04:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can someone find the news that two Taiwan marine soldiers drowned in a military exercise?


[09-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Marukomuru#8409
"drowned" in a "military" "exercise" :smugcaddy:


[09-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Marukomuru#8409
~~shitposting aside I'll have a look~~


[09-Jul-20 04:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their officers said they drowned in the "150 centimeters depth water", "160 meters away from the land"


[09-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't find anything on it, no


[09-Jul-20 04:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Their coach "suicided" in the stair room


[09-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Okay, I found this https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3960482

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One of three Taiwan Marine soldiers critically wounded in landing d...
One of three Taiwan Marine soldiers critically wounded in landing drill dies
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[09-Jul-20 04:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3960623

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Supervisor of fatal military drill commits suicide: Taiwan Navy | T...
Supervisor of fatal military drill commits suicide: Taiwan Navy
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[09-Jul-20 04:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Suicide of course, two NAVY soldiers drowned in the 1.5m deep water 160m way from the seacoast? And, there were seven sodiers on the boat, four of them just escaped and left their comrade-in-arms dead


[09-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Maybe they couldn't swim. 1.5m deep water is still dangerous to non-swimmers 🙃


[09-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Xenxc#4012
dangerous to manlets you mean


[09-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Xenxc#4012
oh wait, those are the same thing


[09-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
oh no


[09-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'm a manlet *and* a furry


[09-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:drama:


[09-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...I'm also *now* just realizing how deep 1.5m is but I'm not going to retract my previous statement because the joke sounds better like this


[09-Jul-20 04:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Donald Trump is 1.91m height


[09-Jul-20 05:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Only well-trained Navy soldiers can get drown in 1. 5m deep water


[09-Jul-20 05:02 AM] byte[]#2610
He's 1.9m when he wears his high heels


[09-Jul-20 05:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>i'm 1,72m


[09-Jul-20 05:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IM A DWARF IMA DIGGIN THE HOLE, DIGGY DIGGY HOLE


[09-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU

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Get the new album "Wintersaga" here: https://smarturl.it/Wintersaga-NPR

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[09-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1280961056261767168

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Learn. Their. Names. https://t.co/lYzH8LIj6d
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[09-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
the lincoln project is on the fucking war path


[09-Jul-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
That's what Lincoln did, right?

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[09-Jul-20 07:03 AM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[09-Jul-20 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cia-kept-giving-intel-to-russia-got-nothing-back

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CIA Kept Giving Intel to Russia, Got Nothing Back
Intelligence sharing with Moscow is a one-way street, according to CIA veterans, but the Trump administration nevertheless saw it as a key step to a closer relationship.
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[09-Jul-20 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jul-20 07:16 AM] byte[]#2610
14/88


[09-Jul-20 07:17 AM] illumnious#7938
That pussyboy


[09-Jul-20 07:19 AM] jlun2#8758
remember to vote


[09-Jul-20 07:25 AM] RYDE#8862
I'll always remember to vote.


[09-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/politics/john-roberts-hospitalized-after-fall-in-june/index.html

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Chief Justice John Roberts was briefly hospitalized in June after a...
Chief Justice John Roberts was briefly hospitalized on June 21 after falling while walking near his home, a spokeswoman for the Supreme Court said Tuesday.
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[09-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Crow#5457
> "The Chief Justice was treated at a local hospital on June 21 for an injury to his forehead sustained in a fall while walking for exercise near his home," said Kathy Arberg, public information officer for the Supreme Court. The fall happened at the Chevy Chase Club, according to a source familiar with the matter.
> 
> "The injury required sutures, and out of an abundance of caution, he stayed in the hospital overnight and was discharged the next morning. His doctors ruled out a seizure. They believe the fall was likely due to light-headedness caused by dehydration."


[09-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
reminder to stay hydrated


[09-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/red-s-skull-hydra-hail-hydrate-avoid-headache-gif-12265245

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[09-Jul-20 08:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is hilarious because about all the man did at the impeachment hearing was read names and drink water


[09-Jul-20 09:24 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER GAMING
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SUV Attempts To Run Over Protesters In New York City
#SUV #NewYorkProtest #TMTYLGaming

SUV Attempts To Run Over Protesters In New York City
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[09-Jul-20 09:32 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[09-Jul-20 09:42 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[09-Jul-20 09:42 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
ACAB amiright my fellow liberals


[09-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/3PS4iXeDjtw

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Hubert Cumberdale
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[09-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
If convicted, the two residents of Martinez, Calif., could face up to a year in jail, prosecutors say.

The two were identified by the Contra Costa District Attorney’s Office as Nicole Claudia Anderson, 42, and David Richard Nelson, 53, both of Martinez, Calif.

Diana Becton, the district attorney, said, “The mural completed last weekend was a peaceful and powerful way to communicate the importance of Black lives in Contra Costa County and the country.”

The mural was painted on July 4 in front of a courthouse in Martinez, a site that the city selected when it issued a permit to the mural’s organizer. Within an hour of its completion, it was vandalized, said the organizer, Justin Gomez.

In addition to the hate crime charges, the two people each face a charge of vandalism under $400 and possession of tools to commit vandalism or graffiti. All of the charges are misdemeanors and no court date has been scheduled, according to a spokesman for the district attorney’s office.

Yet the daily trashing of statues, businesses and private property by leftists, antifa and BLM are applauded by the MSM.


[09-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
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[09-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9au1P_1594252351

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Liveleak.com - Employee takes two slaps and punch before body slamm...
Redefining the Media
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[09-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
takes a spit too


[09-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Crow#5457
how is this political?


[09-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Where does vids like this should go?


[09-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
the fire and spit/slap/punch videos aren't political, so they'd go in #general-discussion


[09-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok


[09-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/DmyqCg3

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Florida
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[09-Jul-20 01:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What if Trump want old people die


[09-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/RRZQt1N

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“lunches”
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[09-Jul-20 02:13 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Honestly I can't even blame Trump for my state. My state has been retarded through all of this. Also, I know it's late but you can thank the government and Colleges for high college cost. The government student loans have caused college prices to increase because the greedy as fuck colleges see a empty check and think 'Oh boy, this means they can offered it!' And increase it over and over. They also keep useless as fuck classes/professors for some shit that is just filler that won't actually help with your primary focus, leading to money being wasted on some useless fuck running a useless class. Honestly I do have a bit of a tinfoil hat here. So, the government is AWARE of the affects government loans caused for students, they're basically unpayable prices right? What if that was the plan? Think of it, one of the MAIN reasons for joining the military is the free college (Lmao tho it's really not, you study by yourself from a book they give you in-between shifts and then give you to take from what my grandfather said), so if college stopped being expensive that would kill the military's sign ups.


[09-Jul-20 02:21 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Just like how the government fucked Healthcare prices by limiting the amount of doctors we got and (Sadly) Medicare and medicaid caused false supply and demand causing them to increase prices because no matter what they make money, sadly a obama act that set a set price for medical treatment didn't help as some hospitals offered better prices to care to be competitive market so they could make more people rely in them for medical treatment, and disallowed them to. Basically, alot if not all lower class trouble stems from government sticking their nose wher it don't belong.


[09-Jul-20 02:57 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281209521675874304?s=21

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[09-Jul-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/harvard-and-mit-contest-order-depor-international-students-studying-online-2020-7

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Harvard, MIT, and Northeastern University are suing ICE to block it...
The Trump administration announced Monday that students on courses that had been moved online could no longer stay in the US.
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[09-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/

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Ryan Goodman
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Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No A...
"Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernable reward," while at the same time not backing up the Pentagon in addressing concerns about Russia's arming the Taliban.
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[09-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> Yet the daily trashing of statues, businesses and private property by leftists, antifa and BLM are applauded by the MSM.
@Smug Trixie 

Except there not beacuse no one supports the rioters


[09-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Proofs?


[09-Jul-20 03:56 PM] byte[]#2610
warc you bit obvious bait again


[09-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and that text was a copypasta from liveleak btw


[09-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh


[09-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah most people who suport the ideals of blm like chuggacronry scott the woz and critical dont support the riots


[09-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/supreme-court-trump-decision-07-09-20/index.html

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Live updates: Supreme court decision on Trump's finances
SCOTUS is expected to rule on two momentous cases that will determine whether the House and a New York prosecutor can successfully subpoena Trump's accounting firm and banks for his taxes and financial documents. Follow here for the latest.
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[09-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-new-york-prosecutor-can-get-trump-s-n1232086

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Supreme Court rules New York prosecutor can get Trump’s tax returns
The president has gone to great lengths to keep these documents private.
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[09-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-coronavirus-face-masks-sheriffs-refuse-enforce-governor-abbott-order/

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Growing number of Texas sheriffs refuse to enforce governor's mask ...
At least nine counties have publicly said they will not enforce the executive order requiring face masks in public.
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[09-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Crow#5457
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[09-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[09-Jul-20 05:26 PM] illumnious#7938
*best at golfing but worst at running the country.*


[09-Jul-20 05:49 PM] wren#0114
stooks


[09-Jul-20 05:50 PM] illumnious#7938
:stonks:


[09-Jul-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jul-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Jul-20 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok Karen


[09-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I feel bad for all the tens of thousands of completely sane and normal people named Karen


[09-Jul-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's not just a name, it's a whole character stereotype


[09-Jul-20 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/DSkentel/status/1281162034411974657?s=19

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The tag #socialistteeth is great, it consists of socialist furries posting their fursonas and speaking out against bigotry. But, if that wasn't wonderful enough, it's also triggered a bunch of right-wing bots, unable to comprehend the term it's exposed the accounts artificial...
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[09-Jul-20 06:56 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/2O8ZSOd

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Seoul mayor found dead after being reported missing
Seoul Mayor Park Won-soon was found dead after his daughter reported his missing earlier in the day.
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[09-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Xenxc#4012
from actual vandalism to...
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[09-Jul-20 07:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Dammm


[09-Jul-20 07:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Vancouver don’t fuck around


[09-Jul-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao really


[09-Jul-20 07:06 PM] wren#0114
I don't trust anyone who drinks milk from a bag


[09-Jul-20 07:06 PM] wren#0114
astronauts are exempt from my contempt


[09-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
discord.gg/trump


[09-Jul-20 07:28 PM] illumnious#7938
What the fuuuuuck


[09-Jul-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938

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[09-Jul-20 07:35 PM] illumnious#7938
#endmyliiiiife http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281260329247399936

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POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!
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[09-Jul-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🅱️olitical 🅱️itch 🅱️unt


[09-Jul-20 07:36 PM] jlun2#8758
i wonder has golf industry brand been tarnished by orange man?


[09-Jul-20 07:36 PM] illumnious#7938
I got him


[09-Jul-20 07:36 PM] illumnious#7938
:tuckerface:


[09-Jul-20 07:37 PM] wren#0114
tucc'd


[09-Jul-20 07:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Carlson'd


[09-Jul-20 07:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Omgthatfuckingracistdouchebagfromfoxnews


[09-Jul-20 07:46 PM] illumnious#7938
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281250568342769665

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....for another President. This is about PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT. We catch the other side SPYING on my campaign, the biggest political crime and scandal in U.S. history, and NOTHING HAPPENS. But despite this, I have done more than any President in history in first 3 1/2 year...
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[09-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
:blep:


[09-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m going to lick him


[09-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I know I’m gonna taste tanning spray but it’s worth it


[09-Jul-20 07:49 PM] illumnious#7938
:TrumpDisgust:


[09-Jul-20 07:49 PM] jlun2#8758
licking ych


[09-Jul-20 07:50 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck I love these emotes on that server what @Smug Trixie send


[09-Jul-20 07:55 PM] jlun2#8758
post them all in a single post here


[09-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/506555-joe-biden-presidency-will-bring-disaster-for-the-supreme-court

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Joe Biden presidency will bring disaster for the Supreme Court
Liberals could force him to move the institution more leftward.
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[09-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`Liberal organizations have seized upon the pledge of Biden to appoint a Black woman to the Supreme Court, urging him to consider someone like Leslie Abrams, sister of Stacey Abrams, or left wing academic Michelle Alexander, who compared the state of Israel to apartheid South Africa. `


[09-Jul-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Dammit, I thought it was a Biden emoji


[09-Jul-20 08:18 PM] illumnious#7938
Nope


[09-Jul-20 08:19 PM] illumnious#7938
But seriously tho, only a Trumpist could ever wrote that article


[09-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember seeing an article from a conservative pundit that was basically "Liberal justices are never swing votes" despite that not being the case


[09-Jul-20 08:23 PM] illumnious#7938
ah yes #TrumpistGoneWild


[09-Jul-20 08:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The Hill is pretty okay if you stay away from the opinion section


[09-Jul-20 08:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really think opinion pieces should get graced with the face of the person who wrote it, not generic stock images about their subject matter


[09-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And also their job history and family money


[09-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because I'm sorry but I don't really care about your opinion on taxation if your parents both made 350k USD a year and you started off working as an "intern" in some big business your family had connections to


[09-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[09-Jul-20 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Better than that, TSP, Jenna Ellis is this smiling mug https://www.metroweekly.com/2020/01/trump-adviser-jenna-ellis-conversion-therapy-hiv-gods-moral-law/

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[09-Jul-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"and called HIV 'God's Moral Law'," to save you a click on that headline


[09-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Amazing


[09-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Absurdly predictable but still amazing


[09-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wha the fuck


[09-Jul-20 09:12 PM] illumnious#7938
:tuckerface:


[09-Jul-20 09:16 PM] HerdAnon#6614
https://www.justsecurity.org/71279/trump-pushed-cia-to-give-intelligence-to-kremlin-while-taking-no-action-against-russia-arming-taliban/
We've been arming terrorist for years, shit, some fuck head in 09 in the dog killing atf let thousands of US military weapons and a explosives 'walk'. Many of which the Mexican cartel got and used.

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[09-Jul-20 09:17 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Every single nation arms terrorist. It's 'Good for the economy' as they put it and 'Arming freedom fighters'


[09-Jul-20 09:18 PM] HerdAnon#6614
None of this is new. None. First world nations are assholes anymore.


[09-Jul-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I hesitate to designate the US as first world except nominally


[09-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
First world imples that Flint has water


[09-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
"it's okay for the US to say nothing in the interests of defending their troops because every country arms terrorists" ?????


[09-Jul-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
it really feels more like a south american dictatorship than a democracy at this point


[09-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Honahue#0656
worlds riches thrid world country


[09-Jul-20 09:21 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Who said that crow?


[09-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure how it's patriotic to justify russia making it easier to kill US troops, I guess it's because trump is being criticized for not speaking out against it?


[09-Jul-20 09:21 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Did you miss or ignore
>None of this is new. None. 
>First world nations are assholes anymore.


[09-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
yes, that's a part of the justification, saying that it's not new to justify not saying anything about it


[09-Jul-20 09:22 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Crow, your barking at ghost.


[09-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
cawing*


[09-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[09-Jul-20 09:23 PM] HerdAnon#6614
How the fuck am I saying not to say anything about it? I just pointed out one of the bigger scandals of people knowing about it. I'm saying people don't need to act like they didn't know and it's new.


[09-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if you read the article or not, but it clearly states that trump is wrong to have not spoken up about both russia arming the taliban and russia putting a bounty on US troops


[09-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
yes, that's an attempt to minimize severity of the issue


[09-Jul-20 09:25 PM] HerdAnon#6614
It's really not


[09-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
and if it's not, it certainly comes off that way


[09-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Things have always been this bad" is not a great argument


[09-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Doctor please I'm dying "
"People die all the time"


[09-Jul-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not only did he not speak up about it, he denied ever even learning that it was going on


[09-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
he also apparently flew into a rage every time someone tried to broach the issue too


[09-Jul-20 09:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's literally no justification for that claim that doesn't point to a massive failure of his administration


[09-Jul-20 09:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Either he knew and said nothing and lied about knowing, or the commander in chief was intentionally left in the dark about a threat made by a foreign country against our troops that resulted in attacks and deaths of US soldiers because it might *upset* him.


[09-Jul-20 09:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What are you going to do? Deny he said that? He said it in public. It's a matter of public record.


[09-Jul-20 09:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And normally when a foreign government puts a price on the heads of US soldiers, and those soldiers get attacked, and those soldiers get killed, it is considered an *act of war.*


[09-Jul-20 09:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The question is, are you really going to stand there and tell me that acts of war are excusable if the president might get upset about it?


[09-Jul-20 09:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
someone please check on him I think he's face down on the keyboard

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[09-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[09-Jul-20 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, both arguments there are true


[09-Jul-20 09:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Switzerland also did banking services for both sides


[09-Jul-20 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the nazi Germans did not invade -- don't shit in the same spot where you eat


[09-Jul-20 09:48 PM] HerdAnon#6614
But nice implying, apparently you forget I- Tea you're not caught up here. Forget I don't like the prick either. The dude has put more restrictions on companies than most presidents and more anti gun laws than the 'evil' democrats. He's a prick. But I'm tired of people pretending russia being assholes to the US is 'new' (As in acting like we didn't know about it and not care till now.) And countries arming terrorist is 'new' (Same thing. Hard to believe I have to clarify here so people don't make assumptions or misread. But not blaming as there is evasion tactics like this.) . If people are FINALLY going to say something about it, great! But the chances are no one will talk about how iraq got migs, f15s/16s, M1 Abrams (M1, not m1a1 or a2), t62, bmp1 and 2 and 3, ect. No, we'll all just forget about it, and I'm sick of the shit. Every single time this shit comes up, how the enemy has javelins or what not, we do NOTHING. Instead we forget and move onto the next stupid shit (not saying that this is stupid, just what msm focus will switch to will be.) comes up. People are being slaughtered and tortured in the middle east, africa, the cartel, ect, and nothing is done, nothing WILL be done because we got the focus of guppies! Fuck people seem to forget when they complain about the US involvement everyone was complaining we weren't getting involved (Thatcher even complained to George about it and the fucking moron listened.) then they all abandoned it and left us in there only to start complaining we are now war mongers.


[09-Jul-20 09:48 PM] HerdAnon#6614
(We are totally still there for oil now though. This shit was started by soviet insurgents causing a mob uproar and convincing people they were slaves in the middle east and started having mobs going around killing people for questioning islam. It is really fucked.) Because we're still dumb enough to think we can help instead of doing what we should have done: let them handle their own issues. Civil war will happen, people will die, and if the power in place is shit they'll revolt and go back to normal. Long story short, fuck trump, fuck obama, fuck bush, fuck Clinton, fuck the other bush, fuck all the politicians and all the media. They're all lieing cheating scumbags that as soon as people start asking good questions they divert to something else. None of these people are good, personally I suggest a bullet to solve our issues but people are too busy arguing about the petty shit the rich put infront of them to realize just how fucked we are. Look at Wing, he doesn't know where I stand, he doesn't know I just hate politicians and the rich pricks, no, but he makes the assumptions and starts going after me.   Why? Probably because he bought the bullshit that if people have different veiws they must be absolutely against their ideas. Not his fault, trust me, social media with its bots made the bullshit this way, extremist, agree absolutely or you're a problem.


[09-Jul-20 09:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At the same time, Switzerland wasn't too resourceful or strategically important so it was ignorable


[09-Jul-20 09:51 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Swiss had good guns/snipers


[09-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Crow#5457
the problem was never that everyone knew that russia is a prick to the US, the problem is that the ostensible leader of the US doesn't seem to give a shit at best, and is actively subservient to russia at worst


[09-Jul-20 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Are you really blaming oil for Trump not doing his job?


[09-Jul-20 09:52 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Are you that dense?


[09-Jul-20 09:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, no, wait, you're blaming *Twitter* for Trump not doing his job


[09-Jul-20 09:53 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Oh my god you are


[09-Jul-20 09:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
None of what you said is even remotely relevant


[09-Jul-20 09:53 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Exactly what I fucking mean.


[09-Jul-20 09:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a history lesson on why they issued a bounty, it answers nothing about Trump's inaction


[09-Jul-20 09:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To me, it comes across as though you're *actually* trying to justify this by saying Russia was justified in putting the bounty on US troops


[09-Jul-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which completely dodges any and all responsibility on Trump's behalf


[09-Jul-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and sounds awfully apologetic to the russians, which I *know* you're not trying to do


[09-Jul-20 09:55 PM] HerdAnon#6614
NO PRESIDENT IS DOING THEIR GOD DAMN JOB.  The presidents have ALL been fucked with by russia. What I'm saying is, (what you apparently missed) is I'm tired of people acting like this is a single person issue and not our entire government as a whole, as it's always been.


[09-Jul-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What, so just because you think Russia's always picked on us we should just bend over and take it?


[09-Jul-20 09:56 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Oh my god you're dense


[09-Jul-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm answering the argument you're making, not the argument you think you're making


[09-Jul-20 09:56 PM] HerdAnon#6614
No. You missed the entire point of the argument


[09-Jul-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, then argue your point


[09-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
that comes off as another justification for trump as well, and I don't think any president has had a response to finding out about a foreign government's blatant attempts to get US soldiers killed in such an egregious way as trump's


[09-Jul-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause right now the only point I see you making is that Russia is adversarial to the US


[09-Jul-20 09:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you can't pin the blame on them for everything, you know


[09-Jul-20 09:58 PM] HerdAnon#6614
The point I'm trying to make. Is when I said "We've been arming terrorist for years, shit, some fuck head in 09 in the dog killing atf let thousands of US military weapons and a explosives 'walk'. Many of which the Mexican cartel got and used."
It was not in defense of our president. But against him and everyone, because I'm tired of nothing being done.


[09-Jul-20 09:58 PM] HerdAnon#6614
And it is and should, russia has been fucking with us for years


[09-Jul-20 09:59 PM] HerdAnon#6614
We need to do something, I just know we won't. Our politicians suck.


[09-Jul-20 10:01 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Crow and tea were saying I was saying we shouldn't do anything. We should. Just make sure we know who ALL to point out, because if we only get one, the issue will only continue.


[09-Jul-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I seem to recall one of Trump's biggest campaign promises was that he was gonna end the war in the middle east. That would imply taking steps to undo the damage that started with...the administration that came in after the war started? I'll let that slide, but not if you're gonna make a point of pointing as many fingers as you possibly can


[09-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
I never said you were saying we shouldn't do anything


[09-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
I was saying that you seem to be attempting to excuse trump's behavior


[09-Jul-20 10:02 PM] HerdAnon#6614
@Crow  my bad it was just tea, sorry


[09-Jul-20 10:02 PM] HerdAnon#6614

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[09-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
teaspoon didn't say you were saying we shouldn't do anything either, he was saying that saying "things have always been bad" is a bad argument for excusing bad behavior


[09-Jul-20 10:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And your argument, as you just clarified to me, is that "our politicians suck" and have been at the mercy of Russia's whims "for years"


[09-Jul-20 10:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It’s not Russia, it’s the entire capitalist class that’s like this imo. Putting it all into Russia’s hands just furthers nationalist shenanigans

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[09-Jul-20 10:05 PM] HerdAnon#6614
>Not if you're arguing to point as many fingers as you can
So basically continue the norm. That's what will happen unless we deal with all of them. Including trump.


[09-Jul-20 10:05 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Because if we only deal with one, the others will put on a act and not do anything.


[09-Jul-20 10:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I caution you against making that argument because it means that just because there are other bad people in government, we shouldn't try to hold any of them accountable


[09-Jul-20 10:08 PM] HerdAnon#6614
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying hold them all accountable for their actions. Letting them slide is what got us to this.


[09-Jul-20 10:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The existence of others who will rise to take his place or are the ones pulling the strings or anything to that effect has no bearing on the personal responsibility of the President, and the fact that he has shirked that responsibility


[09-Jul-20 10:09 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Exactly


[09-Jul-20 10:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, of course we should pursue all of them, but it does not follow that just because there *might* be one who escapes justice that we shouldn't try to hold the president accountable either


[09-Jul-20 10:10 PM] HerdAnon#6614
But I'm saying punish all of the president that knew about this. Three Republicans, two democrats. All of them knew about this, and if they didn't hold cia accountable because they damn sure did.


[09-Jul-20 10:10 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm not saying don't try, I'm saying do.


[09-Jul-20 10:11 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Politicians, are inherently corrupt. And if we keep letting them slide, we're fucked.


[09-Jul-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
All the presidents...that knew about Russia putting a bounty on US troops on Trump's watch?


[09-Jul-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That would be a list of Donald J. Trump.


[09-Jul-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
To say otherwise is moving the goalpost


[09-Jul-20 10:13 PM] HerdAnon#6614
No, all the presidents that knew the russians were putting bounties on us soldiers heads and that they were deliberately fucking with us. This was all lead up to.


[09-Jul-20 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, look at you, you've gone to blaming the CIA for the series of events that led to Trump claiming that he wasn't briefed on Russia putting a bounty on US troops


[09-Jul-20 10:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the CIA did not tell Trump to say that.


[09-Jul-20 10:15 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm just going to stop because this is getting no where with you, you're tunnel visioning on a wide issue.


[09-Jul-20 10:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Enough whataboutisms, and you can make any issue a wide issue.


[09-Jul-20 10:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
better luck next time


[09-Jul-20 10:16 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Whatever you say.


[09-Jul-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/RepSpeier/status/1281263075732205568

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If anyone has any doubt Trump has something to hide – Russian masters, cooked books, profiting from the presidency & pandemic? – all they need to do is look at his unhinged response to today’s #SCOTUS rulings. The truth WILL eventually come out & he knows it. #TrumpMeltdown
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[09-Jul-20 10:39 PM] illumnious#7938
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LIVE: President @realDonaldTrump signs an executive order https://t.co/rSOPsKxHnO
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[09-Jul-20 10:41 PM] Crow#5457
... what executive order?


[09-Jul-20 10:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Eat my soul


[09-Jul-20 10:42 PM] wren#0114
something to do with education?


[09-Jul-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing i got in the title was "hispanic prosperity"


[09-Jul-20 10:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Meanwhile in babyland

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[09-Jul-20 10:45 PM] wren#0114
is that reddit: the discord?


[09-Jul-20 10:45 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[09-Jul-20 10:46 PM] illumnious#7938
More importantly https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/730837490339938445


[09-Jul-20 10:47 PM] wren#0114
>apple


[09-Jul-20 10:48 PM] illumnious#7938
>do they even save the focking photos on the computer lol


[09-Jul-20 10:49 PM] illumnious#7938
Once again

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[09-Jul-20 10:49 PM] illumnious#7938
I literally want to die


[09-Jul-20 10:50 PM] wren#0114
y


[09-Jul-20 10:51 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
y r u using light theme? do you hate your eyes?


[09-Jul-20 10:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Because :TrumpStare: :tuckerface: :trumpkek:


[09-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
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New York City paints Black Lives Matter mural outside Trump Tower i...
New York City is painting a Black Lives Matter mural on the street directly outside of Trump Tower in Midtown Manhattan.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200709122332-01-blm-mural-trump-tower-0709-new-york-super-tease.jpg


[09-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[09-Jul-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Kek


[09-Jul-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Top fucking KEK


[09-Jul-20 10:52 PM] illumnious#7938
I love it


[09-Jul-20 10:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Can this day get anymore better

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[09-Jul-20 10:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/09/889356233/stop-getting-tested-ohio-politician-tells-constituents

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"This is what happens when people go crazy and get tested," Ohio state Rep. Nino Vitale wrote on social media.
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[09-Jul-20 10:59 PM] illumnious#7938
Stopidass


[09-Jul-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1281276972463730689

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https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1281276972463730689
are you serious
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[10-Jul-20 12:19 AM] byte[]#2610
https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/lawful-access-encrypted-data-act-backdoor/

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New anti-encryption bill worse than EARN IT. Act now to stop both.
The Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act would require US companies to backdoor encryption for the "good guys".
https://tutanota.com/blog/images/surveillance.jpg


[10-Jul-20 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] apparently that's fake :sad:


[10-Jul-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
Yeh


[10-Jul-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I thought that was obvious


[10-Jul-20 12:28 AM] illumnious#7938
http://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1281326047376691200

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President @realDonaldTrump has made historic investment in America's public charter schools—and he will never let them be taken away from the families who choose them. https://t.co/tv9GsOL0zp
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[10-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wait, Earn it is fake?


[10-Jul-20 12:44 AM] illumnious#7938
Heck if I know


[10-Jul-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Sir Frosty I think he meant https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1281276972463730689

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are you serious
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[10-Jul-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
unfortunately no one clarified & byte went :sleep:


[10-Jul-20 12:57 AM] jlun2#8758
EARN IT is real tho


[10-Jul-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
> How devastating this would be, becomes obvious when looking at one of the most severe data breaches of 2020: The so-called BlueLeaks breach exposed files from hundreds of US police departments, including personal information of suspects and convicted criminals alike.
foreign governments be like :glowing_eyes:


[10-Jul-20 01:00 AM] jlun2#8758
& I think im too late correcting frost :ts_cry:


[10-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
uwu


[10-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[10-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was that guy who around a month ago was all on about "oh how dare Disney sell rainbow colored mouse ears or people imply Elsa is gay"


[10-Jul-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And then said he was "done sharing his political opinions publicly"


[10-Jul-20 02:42 AM] ononim#8141
... why patrick?


[10-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Because Patrick is canonically black


[10-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Don’t you know?


[10-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No clue why Patrick


[10-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Patrick would be like "BLM? I love Bacon Lettuce Mayo sandwiches!"


[10-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Honahue#0656
keto version of a blt


[10-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, didn't Marx not like black people


[10-Jul-20 03:17 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
no he didnt like jews


[10-Jul-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281206354334625793

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281206354334625793
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORT...
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[10-Jul-20 03:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[10-Jul-20 03:45 AM] ononim#8141
||ngl absolutely loving the fact that the politics channel is the calm one right now||

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[10-Jul-20 03:49 AM] jlun2#8758
@PwnyPony if he wins like orangeman ill be annoyed as hell


[10-Jul-20 03:49 AM] HerdAnon#6614
It'd be pretty funny


[10-Jul-20 03:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I wanna see Wakanda white house model. Do the staff get selected based on ritual combat?


[10-Jul-20 03:51 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
that'll be fine tbh


[10-Jul-20 03:51 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
finally get rid of the old people

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[10-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Phelan#7647
A vote for Biden is a vote for Trump, its a Yeezy Trump race and you shouldn't vote third party

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[10-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
"Full iron fist"
https://is2.4chan.org/mlp/1594339240860.png

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[10-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
What the fuck is this.


[10-Jul-20 03:56 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Fascism.


[10-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
*Communism


[10-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a horseshoe for a reason, though


[10-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Pontology#1010
They're both authoritarian and like to rule "with an iron fist"


[10-Jul-20 03:57 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Apparently this is the origin

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[10-Jul-20 03:57 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Soo... religion?


[10-Jul-20 04:02 AM] jlun2#8758
pray to celestia :celestiburn:


[10-Jul-20 04:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
Wakana is literally a kingdom.


[10-Jul-20 04:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's a monarchy.


[10-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Synfag#9241
https://i.imgur.com/dzXKV4P.jpg

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[10-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Venport#0543
@IAmADeliciousPotato it is


[10-Jul-20 04:24 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
goddamnit


[10-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is a true story


[10-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Venport#0543
@IAmADeliciousPotato I already tried that, it didn't work


[10-Jul-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
ugh


[10-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Venport#0543
try setting it to no slowmode and then 2 minute


[10-Jul-20 04:27 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
alright sounds like a plan


[10-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
is there a slowdown here


[10-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
oh hey


[10-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Venport#0543
let me know when you've tried it


[10-Jul-20 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
the only thing I can do is tell people what we're trying
It turns out that mods don't really have all that many chat perms


[10-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Venport#0543
with your powers combined!!!


[10-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Venport#0543
jk you have probably like 2 powers


[10-Jul-20 04:29 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
meh a few more but nothing dealing with slowmode


[10-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Venport#0543
mines still at 2 minutes i g ill just vibe


[10-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Venport#0543
er


[10-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Venport#0543
6 hours lol


[10-Jul-20 04:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
mines at 5 hours and 45 minutes


[10-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Holy shit


[10-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
I just tried to throw a cicada away from a window and it came back and hit me in my throat


[10-Jul-20 04:39 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Talk hit get shit. Buggins don't fuck about.


[10-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
I have nothing but respect for all bugs


[10-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Except TSP


[10-Jul-20 04:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stalinism is when a private platform has rules


[10-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
apparently once you get slowmoded you have to wait for that timer to expire


[10-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Memely#0001
literally just remove slowmode then re-enable it mods if you still want like a 1-2 minute slowmode


[10-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Memely#0001
people are stuck with the 6 hour one right now and its shit


[10-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
what are the anti-* threads


[10-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
they probably prefer not letting people post


[10-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
lol


[10-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
>banned for being a meanie


[10-Jul-20 04:54 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Who?


[10-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
When’s the TSP dox?


[10-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
No one should be allowed to act this stupid without irl repercussions.


[10-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
so Princess Luna is in charge now


[10-Jul-20 05:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
shut the fuck up nazi

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[10-Jul-20 05:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why the hell was banning some edgy OC worth burning the site to the ground?


[10-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
if derpibooru is required to have an impressum and they hide the impressum isn't that violating the law that requires it?


[10-Jul-20 05:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not, the site is pretty much the same as it always was, they just cringe


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
NAHTZEES BAD WE NEED TO BAN NUHTZEES


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
no, warbler is an actual nazi afaik


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
idc about other shit


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
diss is just extremem bait


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
The fandom is splitting because of this.
And for what cause? It was all doing fine until now.


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Pfffft


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
dont TAKE THE BAIT


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
like damn the correct opinions is to literally not care about nazi pone


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's there? whatever


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not there? who cares


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
just wanna look at pones


[10-Jul-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
don't care


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
cry more


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
I was told to wear that flag.


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
fair enough


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Not at Gunpoint


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
But within the proximity of firearms


[10-Jul-20 05:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's okay bby it's bait ❤️ I don't know you anyway, I know uhh, what's his face


[10-Jul-20 05:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm so sick of this nonsense.


[10-Jul-20 05:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
banned fucker


[10-Jul-20 05:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
the actual one posting weird pro-segregation nazi shit who's been on the site for like 6 years


[10-Jul-20 05:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
8 rather


[10-Jul-20 05:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
fuck im terrible at names


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's the name


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Lemon Drop


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
lol


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
That’s a pony


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Lemming#6969
Literally who


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lemon drop is a sperg, tbh.


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
that one actually posted really nazi opinions actively and was banned for it before this new flip flop


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
was hilarious cringe


[10-Jul-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
wish someone screencapped it all to haunt em forever


[10-Jul-20 05:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
was deleted too quick for me


[10-Jul-20 05:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
I read, I poast, I find out I'm responding to deleted comment, I crie


[10-Jul-20 05:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, he's not an actual Nazi, but he's something worse.
Lemon: "Genocide bad."
Also Lemon: "Omnicide good."


[10-Jul-20 05:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, you'd be forgiven for thinking the very pro-segregationalist posts were uhhh


[10-Jul-20 05:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
nazi


[10-Jul-20 05:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
His misanthropy is indiscriminate, in my experience with him.


[10-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
not sure the site is worth much more than that in its current state


[10-Jul-20 05:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
the site is literally the same as it always have been, it's literally just had jannies who do it for free been swapped around a bit and some flip flopping drama


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can go somewhere else to fap to aryanne, but it's still more or less the same other than that


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
like seriously think about it


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's really not magically all that different to before


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't think it's the same.


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
people just got heated


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
It doesn't feel the same.


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not as comfy.


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
I can give you $400 in cash if I see you in Florida, Corp


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
drama do be like that yes


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's stressful


[10-Jul-20 05:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
emotional investment time


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
everyone got very emotionally invested


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
when all we wanted was to enjoy ponies


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
This all could have been avoided.


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is no winning once there's that level of emotional investment


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean luna did say uhhhh


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
basically the rules for anti-absurdly bad nazi content was always there but over the years enforcement of the exact same rules have been more and more lax


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, this was inevitable with tsp at the helm


[10-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Lemon drop is a bitchass motherfucker


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
This all could have been avoided by just not doing anything in response to a clickbait article.


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
This all fluke have been avoided by using hitmen


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Literally just "Playboy wrote the same thing two years ago; ignore it"


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
Calling Lemondrop a Nazi is unfair to Nazis.


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
too many rule breaking comments as of old rules still around


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
lemondrop really that cringe huh


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
link me to some shit i wanna learn


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yes.


[10-Jul-20 05:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, I don't have screenshots on my phone


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
oof


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
just give it a week


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
rainbooru is cringe and ran by fucking patachu


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Patachu?!


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
who is a huge brainlet and probably less intelligent than lemondrop


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
well, one of the mods


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
furbooru is literally fine


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
same good derpi code


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Lol, he can eat shit.


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lemon called humans "thermodynamically retarded" because we consume other things for sustainence instead of producing it like plants.


[10-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
ok my bid is up to $1900 thanks fo rwarbler


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
bruh


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
okay damn


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
nazis look good now


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
wtf


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
Lemon Drop is a hot dog holy shit


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
i've known this for like 5 years


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
furbooru has worse censorship than DB
www.rainbooru.org
www.ponybooru.org
www.ponerpics.org


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
ponybooru asks for name and address for dnp


[10-Jul-20 05:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
v cringe


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
ponerpics has okay design


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
let's see the forum


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Marches[45]#0674
rainbooru is a bust.


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
He thinks AI singularity is "inevitable" and thinks the world will be better when humans are killed off by the robot overord, because it would be more "efficient".

When you talk about games with him, all you'll hear him talk about is the efficiency of the code. Never once will he mention anything about actual gameplay.


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
check ponerpics rules lol


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Synfag#9241
still waiting for alt booru with twilight as mascot


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
rainbooru is ran by subhuman brainlets


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
avoid


[10-Jul-20 05:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
I have an account anyway.


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
I've been looking for an excuse to leave DB.


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Marches[45]#0674
You know it’s bad when the US looks like less of a kakistocracy.


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's also a joke in site design


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
ponerpics looks neato


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's nuanced. I'm willing to give it a chance.


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I see patachu in people who run site

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[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I avoid


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ponerpics is run by the same guys who run /mlpol/.


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Rainbooru isn’t ran by communist kiddies


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
he is simply a subhuman

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[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
rainbooru was written by one guy and i'm pretty sure he built it to not use any javascript


[10-Jul-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
btw i'm only posting this here cuz still slowmoded out of #general-discussion


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless mods  have changed


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
I shall check


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
nope


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ponerpics has potential though.


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] AHorseOfCourse#6418
^


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Still no privacy policy on RB


[10-Jul-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
Although it's basically copy+pasted Derpibooru.
I think that was the point though.


[10-Jul-20 05:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
we still doing red scare cringe gommulism killed 100 gorrillion an dderpibooru is run by chinese stalinist cultural marxists meme?


[10-Jul-20 05:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, that's why I haven't made an account yet.
I'm waiting on their privacy policy.


[10-Jul-20 05:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
god I wish I lived in the world right wingers think we do


[10-Jul-20 05:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>privacy policy
>not using 7 vpns
lmaoing at you


[10-Jul-20 05:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's just that I know some of the guys who run ponerpics personally, and I'm not entirely sure if I'm comfortable with having them know what I favorite/upvote on booru.
Privacy policy first.


[10-Jul-20 05:21 AM] ShepardInTheSky#0001
PonerPics rules will be changing soon to better accommodate artists


[10-Jul-20 05:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
so what /good/ content is db actually banning other than moonatik's based aryanne following her leader post?


[10-Jul-20 05:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
what of value is lost?


[10-Jul-20 05:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Aryanne had 3000+ pics.


[10-Jul-20 05:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's the principle not the content


[10-Jul-20 05:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Second most popular OC after Littlepip.


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes she's cute and cringe and fun but those can be uploaded elsewhere, just make aryannebooru


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
like I don't have a problem with her per say


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
but what actually is the principal?


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
because by giving the site away


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
I was saying this to leftists beforehand btw


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
We already have poonerpics and ponybooru and rainbooru


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
when everyone anti-nazi was leaving


[10-Jul-20 05:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
leaving gives the site over to them


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
and then you get an echo chamber


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
everyone anti nazi already left.


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, and I was telling them


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
They didn't care about the site, just twitter virtue signaling

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[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
that if the 'freeze peach' side won


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Some people may not be content to stay on a site with shitty policies.


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
this has all been about virtue signaling


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
it would simply turn into a weird /mlpol/ echo chamber if everyone vaguely left wing left


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
all of this drama


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
which is counter-intuitive


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
the entire destruction of derpibooru by their own administration


[10-Jul-20 05:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
'just leaving' just cedes ground


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
everyone vaguely left wing didn't leave, just the twitter crowd


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless everyone leaves ofc


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the authoritarian leftists


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Xenxc#4012
oh great you're here now too


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
then it's just a boycott


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
I was always here?


[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
All they had to do was **host fucking pony pics!** We didn't need censorship. We didn't need bans. All of this drama could have been avoided if the mods hadn't decided to dip their balls in the gumbo.

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[10-Jul-20 05:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
I have no restraint and I must poast


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's not an archive, it's much more than that.


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
honestly


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I only know one or two tankie bronies


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I think you mean authoritarian liberals?


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
lol


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
I've encountered many, but I know few.


[10-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I haven't actually encountered many at all


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
there are no authoritarian liberals


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
like idk m8


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
Eh, I get around.


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
that is an oxymoron


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's called neoliberalism friend


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
I meant tankies bronies


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Xenxc#4012
auth lib makes no sense


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
neoliberalism is not liberal


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
"be free, or else!"


[10-Jul-20 05:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
america just has fucked up political terms


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
liberalism isn't about freedom or it'd be about freedom from capitalists economics and paying rent to landlords, working for a boss /or else/ or starving on the street homeless


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Wtf, lemonAIDS was right all along:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/645731688302903318/730987017076473917/The_End_Is_Sooner_Than_You_Think.png

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[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
He said that last year, lol.


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
that'd be anarchism


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Hans-Herman Hoppe


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
and right-libertarianism is just feudalism


[10-Jul-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
as in it leads to feudalism


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
as in ancap ideology is literally feudalism


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Libertarianism isn't necessarily anarchy.

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[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
maybe if the right libertarian was an ancap or something retarded like that


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
left libertarianism, freedom /from/ capitalism however is actually libertarian


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
AnCapism is mostly a meme.


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
freedom of markets is freedom to get fucked by markets


[10-Jul-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
freedom /from/ markets however is based


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The alternative is anarchism or communism


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Issue with AnCapism is that it has little defense against the prospect of corporate monopolies effectively replacing states.


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
communsim kills millions every time it is tried and anarchism always fails.


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's funny because right libertarianism didn't exist until fairly recently when billionaires started funding ''''libertarian koch brother(s) NGOs"""


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
>gommmunism kiills gorrilklionpodsirfoaihsdeasdeasd


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Historically, the authoritarian right and libertarian left has been the state of left-right


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
>iphone venezuela


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
historically my ass


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stalinism and maoism doesn't work, cool


[10-Jul-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
how about we try something else


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
lol


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
What else to communism is there?


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
tankies btfo


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
read a book


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally unironically read marx


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Communism always become stalinism or maoism


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
except when OOPS the cia crushes it


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
so was Raptorshy summarily dismissed because she is transgender?


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
and replaces it with pinochet


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
no lol


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's a meme


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Doubt


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Marches[45]#0674
She resigned


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
i saw that mentioned somewhere


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
communism doesn't work except wh-
https://www.alternet.org/2014/03/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists/

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35 Countries Where the U.S. Has Supported Fascists, Drug Lords and ...
Here's a handy A to Z guide to U.S.-backed international crime.
https://www.alternet.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/no-image.jpg


[10-Jul-20 05:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
Marx is had his points, but communism as he described it doesn't really seem politically feasible.


[10-Jul-20 05:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
banana republic time


[10-Jul-20 05:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Marx had no points, his theory is based on 1800's anthropology which was wrong.


[10-Jul-20 05:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
marx is still cited and relevant today in any reasonable economics class


[10-Jul-20 05:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, read a book


[10-Jul-20 05:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
the tendency of the rate of profit to fall


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
mises, rothbard and ayn rand are cringe


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
He's cited, but I think his work is also frequently misinterpreted.


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
:cheesy:


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
austrian economics is the only school that works

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[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
his studies on capitalisms are still relevant today.


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
HAHSAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHA


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
AAHHAHHAAHAHHAHA


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
""""""""""""""""""""""austrian economics is the only school that works"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the best system would be austrian with some government controls for human rights


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
haha trickle down go brrrrr


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
no one uses austrian economics


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Honahue#0656
literally no one


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
no one uses austrian economics
literally no one[2]


[10-Jul-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
keynesianism 'works'


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
adam smith wanted to gut kulak landlords


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
personally


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
with a pen


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
And meanwhile tankies use the word """communism""" to describe whatever the fuck kind of authitarian statist atrocities they want.


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Xenxc#4012
it's atleast nice to see some discussion in here that isn't just "orange man bad"

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[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Everything "works" if you gulag enough people


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
Adam Smith literally said landlords are degenerate parasites and he was right


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
Adam Smith, father of capitalism


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
Marx be like, yes truuuuuu


[10-Jul-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
yet brainlets still be like hmm yes adam smith good but landlords also good


[10-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
Marx mostly agreed with Smith cept on a few technicalities


[10-Jul-20 05:35 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Oh yeah. Everyone knows landlord's are pricks


[10-Jul-20 05:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
Mao wasn't right about a lot of things, but he was right about landlords


[10-Jul-20 05:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Our property system kind of shoehorns a lot of former homeowners to become landlords if they want to move without going into dept.


[10-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Honahue#0656
that's why Smith want land to be held in common


[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Honahue#0656
Marx took that and was like "yes, and"


[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
My parents are landlords, because they still have a mortgage to pay on their old house.


[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Little cringe book


[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[10-Jul-20 05:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
landlords are fine, mulitbillion dollar international corporations are not


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
>landlords are fine
no


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
borth crap


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
yes


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
Mao was retarded though.
The cultural revolution and the persecution of intellectuals was one of the worst things to happen to China.


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
what do landlords do except increase rents


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
as I said, he was right about landlords


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
landlords literally do nothin


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are parasites


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Xenxc#4012
imagine persecuting people just because they're smarter than you


[10-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Xenxc#4012
brainlets btfo


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
landlords pay taxes and do maintenance.


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
hahahAHAHAH


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
no


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
yes


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
renters pay the taxes for them


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Yes


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
and have to do maintenance themselves


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
then that's a shitty renters agreement


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
because parasites never do


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] HerdAnon#6614
The taxes work based on income the landlord makes.


[10-Jul-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
as someone who has rented for all of my adult life


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
landlords haven't ever done shit


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless the law steps in


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
and you threaten them


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Wow


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] HerdAnon#6614
So no matter how much he charges he stillbpays tax


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Yellow-Throated Warbler#6141
Quit being poorz


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I've lived in a house that was rented where the landlord paid taxes on the property and did maintance without the law stepping in.


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
lucky for some


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
`landlords are fine, mulitbillion dollar international corporations are not`
Yeah, multibillion dollar corporations, who make up more than 40% of rebt-holders in the U.S. (iirc), are decidedly worse than regular landlords.
Corporations don't suffer much from kicking tenants out, so they can evict people without remorse.

At least a single, human landlord has inventive to try to keep their tenants (and thus keep their money).

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[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
landlords be like **slaps this crackhouse** I can make 200 bux a week on this per person in a 3 or 4 person sharehouse


[10-Jul-20 05:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
corporations don't pay tax


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
corporations should pay a lot of tax yes


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
bring back the new deal


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
95% top tax rate


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] Honahue#0656
should but they have lawyers that make sure they don't


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
fuck bezos


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
small business good, big business bad


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
50s economy go brrr


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
small business are bad tho


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
they abuse and mistreat employees more


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
and underpay them


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
hospitality industry go brrr


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
wage theft time


[10-Jul-20 05:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
Corporations make a lot of things worse.
They by-design reduce the liability and accountability that comes with running/starting a business. The result is corporations being capable of some really inhumane things.


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
name one restaurant that doesn't underpay it's employees that isn't mcdonalds


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Small business > corporate bigfoot


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
okay


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
you get your small business


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
but wage theft is a heavily punished crime


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
corporations hire armies of lawyers to make sure they don't pay tax. If the tax rate was 95% they'd still pay 0


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and big business are taxed way more


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
by force


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
cayman islands account?


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
we raiding cayman islands?


[10-Jul-20 05:41 AM] HerdAnon#6614
I lived in poverty most of my life, had a land lord and they did repairs, but then more and more people moved in and the place went shit. Had some assholes move in that cleaned fish in the street.


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
what the cayman islands gonna do?


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
And yeah, fuck Bezos.
The U.S. practically subsidizes his business because so many if his workers are on fucking welfare, and yet Amazon paid $0 I'm taxes last year.
Fuck him. I hope his next wife rips him off too.


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Australia


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Bezos pays nothing


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
in fucking


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
Australia


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
meanwhile we heavily subsidized international mining corporations fracking and mining coal


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
in the order of billions, then murdoch owned media cries about welfare receipients


[10-Jul-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
*Fuck* subsidies.


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
so the problem is subsidized businesses?


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
welfare which costs a total of fuck all


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Honahue#0656
everyone just wants distributist policies but the thing is that private property ownership always leads to consolidation of property to a few people so no mater how small all the business start given a long enough time you'll always end up monopolies


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE MARKET IS BAD


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
welfare really costs fucking nothing to give people some mediocre quality of life damn


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
free market is worse


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
free market is literally feudalism


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
some welfare is alright


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
go to congo


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
have a free market there


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
somalia


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
what the government gonna do in your free market paradise?


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Bring out the corporate death penalty.


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
you have armed, paid mercenaries


[10-Jul-20 05:43 AM] HerdAnon#6614
Do you know how wonderful it is to not be able to use a window unit in a 90° summer without fish rank? I do. It's hell.


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm okay will small business subsidies, but megaocorporations should pay for themselves.


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
welfare literally helps small businesses


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
and is a subsidy to them


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
as welfare receipients had no money before


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Corpulent Brony#1337
:cheesy:


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
and then


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
they spend money


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
which helps the economy


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
Idk about that.


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Corporate welfare gets the 🪓


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
bezos hoards billions


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
welfare is alright, there are people who have no food.


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, that is literally how capitalism works


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
welfare stimulates the economy


[10-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Literal trillions in cheated taxes.


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
without welfare, many smaller grocery stores would be dead


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
without welfare Walmart would be dead too


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Welfare is better in times of economic turmoil, like this.
Right now, a lot of people literally cannot work


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the economy needs less corporate welfare, and a slashing of government buearocracy. (or however the fuck it's spelled


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
in Australia people are getting an extra 600 dollars a fortnight to stimulate the economy


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
and it's working


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Honahue#0656
they shift their wage burden to tax payers


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
Generally speaking, the more money people have to spend, the more the economy flourishes, but you don't want inflation to get out of control


[10-Jul-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
if welfare was completely cut, the economy, even if it was already booming, would go down the toilet


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Did y’all know there’s a restaurant that charges men more money to eat at it


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
businesses rely on people living from paycheck to paycheck buying their goods


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
kinda, but inflation is really bad once you start down the road of give everyone free money.


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] HerdAnon#6614
>A bunch of white names
>Peacefully having discourse.


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] HerdAnon#6614
:twihappy:


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Honahue#0656
damn, there's like one restaruant that does a thing crazy


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
simply use the money you already have by cutting the bloated military budget which is literally used to launder money through overpriced contracts


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I think a lot of people could do better if they budgeted more.


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
and make the military pay what things are actually worth


[10-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
a country's gross domestic product is literally the total sum, after all expenses are paid, of money that every individual, company, or entity, has available to spend, and that also includes the lower classes


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
instead of 10-100x the value of the things for no reason


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
other than corporate welfare


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
the military budget is corporate welfare


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Do you really need a new 1000$ Iphone every time a new one comes out?

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[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Honahue#0656
god damn it no GDP is the sum of all finished good produced and sold in a country


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
haha don't buy avacadoes


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
you'll afford a  house some day


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
bootstraps


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Venport#0543
@Hearth Flare its doing it again, for the 5th time


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
very big brain


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
Yeah, your work is a form of a service


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
And a company pays you


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
Therefore you contribute to the GDP


[10-Jul-20 05:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The military budget has a lot wrong with it and I'd be alright to cut it if you fix things so normal soldiers don't feel the cuts


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, our military could try to negotiate prices...
Ever since the end of the last world war, we've been writing blank checks to the MIC with no regard for efficiency.


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no bid contracts are shit


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
the military budget could probably easily be cut by 1/4 by actual negotiation of prices


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
but the military is important


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
Goods AND services, it's the total economic output of a country


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
for what? proxy wars and coups?


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Drug prices too.


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Honahue#0656
as a veteran it's not


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
protecting international shipping


[10-Jul-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Government sets prices for drugs, but isn't allowed to negotiate.


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck the government honestly


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Honahue#0656
you ain't using 15 aircraft carriers to stop Somali piracy


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
it needs to just fuck off sometimes


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
the american military is increasingly irrelevant anyway


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
wrong


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
europe gonna expand it's own shit


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
don't american exceptionalism my ass


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
Then we should stop sending military aid to them.


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and we should stop them


[10-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
and go on muh russia who spends a total of fuck all


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
or muh china who also spends orders of magnitudes less


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
or syria who spends absolutely nothing in comparison


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
Russia can expand for all I care.


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck eurofags last time they were in control of their military 2 world wars happened.


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
US military should actually be less relevant


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
paying people to let me fuck their wife


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
Russia's economy is just a big ol' gas station.


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
while they LARP and eat mediocre meals


[10-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn not relevant irl


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Honahue#0656
good yes pull every troop out of every country that isn't america and restructure it into a defence force, the whole point of the US navy doctrine is force projection ie we park a military base off your coast


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Russia is number 9 when it comes to economy


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
except when invading a random central or south american country through the CIA, which barely involves the military


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the only reason theyre relavent at all is nuclear weapons


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, there's also China waiting to fill power vaccumes.


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
or a random middle eastern country for having oil


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yea, fuck china


[10-Jul-20 05:51 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and fuck endless war


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck Chins indeed.
And fuck endless war.


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
and also y'know


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
using afghanistan to smuggle and sell heroin to US citizens


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
but then punish said addicts


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
who are addicts because they are poor veterans


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
there is a line I would be happy with between, force projection and endless war


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
and got addicted to painkillers due to an injury


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's the CIA doing that


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
why else would we be in afghanistan?


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
the war on drugs is cringe


[10-Jul-20 05:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
yes


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
legalize the use of all drugs immediately smh


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
I fucking want the Afghan War to end.

If there's one thing I can applaud Trump for, it's at least *trying* to end that circus fire.


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
safe injecting rooms now


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
they just werk


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
Although, If Afghanistan becomes too chaotic, it could one day compromise Pakistan....


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I don't know about all drugs, but certainly most, and the really bad ones should get like, mandatory rehabilitation or something.


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'd have to think about it more to come up with a solution.


[10-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
NOOO YOU CANT GIVE DRUG USERS A SAFE PLACE TO INJECT THATS DEGENERATE NOO YOU CANT GIVE THEM SAFE UNBIASED ACCESS TO REHAB THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Use the Swiss model mah dudes


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I don't give a fuck if they do cocaine


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
safe injecting rooms result in way more rehab, way less HIV and other needle-borne illness


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Too bad corporate doesn't want that


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
far less strain on the healthcare system


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
Make it legal to hunt drug dealers.


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
but maybe try to get them off the really addictive shit


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's the point of safe injecting rooms


[10-Jul-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
persecuting and dehumanizing drug users makes it far harder to get support


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
humanizing them and letting them feel safe with medical professionals around?


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
helps a lot


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
a huge amount


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
science backs it


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Drug dealers should be lined up and shot, tbh.
There's a special place in hell for people who poison their communities for personal gain.


[10-Jul-20 05:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>Make it legal to hunt drug dealers.
maybe. or just make all the actually harmless stuff legal


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Maybe both.


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and help heroine and meth users somehow, I don't know.


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Freaking opiates.


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Drug dealers are often people who had no other choice in life iirc


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
That doesn't make it okay.


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes involving yourself wih the local cartel is the only way to ascend socially in some way


[10-Jul-20 05:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Depends on the drug and the dealer


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm not saying it's okay


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Fuck the local cartels


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you are supplying people with meth, you are basically poisoning them.


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm just inducing you to analyze this critically


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
make most drugs legal and the run out of money


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] StephenFauster#2467
That's the thing, though. Defining what's harmless is the issue. Basically everything gives us cancer, and for example with pot the Weird Old Stoner stereotype doesn't come out of nowhere.


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
shrooms are not harmful


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
weed is not harmful


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Don't do shrooms man...


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
acid is not harmful


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] illumnious#7938
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[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Just fuck the DEA really


[10-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Weed is certainly less harmful.


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'd be fine with cocaine being legal honestly


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
cocaine is schedual 2


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
you can get an RX for it


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
it's a topical anashetic


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
And weed is schedual 1


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
same with meth


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
opiate addicts tend to be people given painkillers by normal doctors who get payouts for giving out painkillers like candy to injured workers


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
also schedule 2


[10-Jul-20 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
US workers have no rights


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
so it's a huge problem


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Idk, I just have an aversion for drugs in general.
However, I've come to understand the solution is not to just throw people in prison.


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
for ADHD and weightloss


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
they can't get their injuries worked on


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
since they no longer have a job and insurance


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck big pharma


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
because they were injured


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
which y'know


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
medicare for all


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
works in uhh


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
the actual real first worlde


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not just injuries though.


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
america aint special


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, other conditions


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
my solution is


[10-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
like idk how brainlets don't understand


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
public healthcare simply forces private to compete


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
so private has to be be better than public to be worth paying into


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
so your private healthcare LITERALLY HAS TO BE BETTER


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Democrats wouldn't allow it on their platform, lol.


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
so it's a better outcome for everyone


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
get the government out of insurance, break up monopolies, give vouchers to the ones who actually fucking need it


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
free public healthcare works


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh big government wanking doesn't


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Cloudwalk#2426
@Honahue so GDP can be calculated based on income, but it's also commonly called "gross domestic income" in that case, so technically yeah it can be how much money everyone has, collectively


[10-Jul-20 06:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's not free, taxpayers are paying for it


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's a goodthing


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
taxes should contribute to social good


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
you live in a society


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
pay into it nerd


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
taxes should be fucking less than they are.


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
There could be a more efficient way to too things than the way we do it now...


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Marches[45]#0674
They are


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
a whole lot fucking less


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Marches[45]#0674
For the wealthy


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
taxation being higher for bezos would mean less for you


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's literally that simple


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
even nordic countries don't tax bezos enough


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
people that make below 30,000 or so should pay no tax


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
by bezos I also mean everyone like him


[10-Jul-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ideally taxes should be abolished alongside capitalism as a whole, but so far they should exist and be directed towards the rich, proportionally


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
in Australia that's pretty much how it is


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
government should be slashed


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Marches[45]#0674
The only trickle down that’s happened is the trickling down of the tax burden from the rich onto the lower classes


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
well


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
until $18,200 a year


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
aud


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the biggest problem in the US in bueracracy.


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
but if bezos paid more


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
could easily be more


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Countries are afraid to tax guys like Bezos because men like him can just sign a piece of paper and move their whoke industry overseas.


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's the reason everything cost so fucking much


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
this is literally Marx though government is a dictatorship of the wealthy


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
GST is a great way of making consumers pay tax instead of corporations too


[10-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
that's what he wanted to change


[10-Jul-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn when you're a lib-right but you accidentally agree with marx


[10-Jul-20 06:03 AM] illumnious#7938

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[10-Jul-20 06:03 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
marx was wrong, just not about everything


[10-Jul-20 06:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, idk about the precedent set by this SCOTUS ruling.


[10-Jul-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
unrelated, but your daily reminder that derpibooru isn't run by communists, but I wish it was.


[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:communism:


[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] illumnious#7938

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[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
Derpibooru is run by idiots.


[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] illumnious#7938
:communism:


[10-Jul-20 06:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Project more


[10-Jul-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Who?


[10-Jul-20 06:05 AM] illumnious#7938
yoooo I'm fucking done here

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[10-Jul-20 06:06 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
lemme explain, a free market is good, but too much is bad.


[10-Jul-20 06:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Use gerry font in that


[10-Jul-20 06:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
there should be laws for workers rights and environmental protections, but subsidies should fuck right off


[10-Jul-20 06:07 AM] illumnious#7938
yooo what @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

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[10-Jul-20 06:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
a centrally planned economy is one that doesn't fucking work except at gunpoint.


[10-Jul-20 06:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, gerry, based on gerrymandered voting districts


[10-Jul-20 06:08 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
unless the person in charge is a literal fucking genius


[10-Jul-20 06:08 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
gerrymandering is bad


[10-Jul-20 06:08 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
voting districts should be set in stone along county lines.


[10-Jul-20 06:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop mandering, Gerry


[10-Jul-20 06:09 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
are you talking to gerry or for gerry?


[10-Jul-20 06:12 AM] illumnious#7938
there @BadgingBadger🦄🌈

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[10-Jul-20 06:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:>


[10-Jul-20 06:14 AM] illumnious#7938
I got another one


[10-Jul-20 06:14 AM] illumnious#7938
welp

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[10-Jul-20 06:15 AM] illumnious#7938

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[10-Jul-20 06:17 AM] illumnious#7938
hmmm


[10-Jul-20 06:17 AM] illumnious#7938
also last one

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[10-Jul-20 06:17 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm fucking done


[10-Jul-20 06:20 AM] snekboi#0523
i think everyone already knew that derpi IP grabbed. i dont think it's that uncommon for a site to do it in general


[10-Jul-20 06:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>not having protection from that
lmao


[10-Jul-20 06:22 AM] snekboi#0523
my internet isnt fast enough to keep a VPN up 24/7 without it starting to crawl


[10-Jul-20 06:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
not just a vpn lol


[10-Jul-20 06:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you're not feeding every website you go to the wrong browser, operating system, screen dimensions, screen colors, and fonts you'll just be fingerprinted.


[10-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Xenxc#4012
hi angrymob


[10-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Xenxc#4012
w-wait


[10-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
POP - Person in power


[10-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
that'd be PIP?


[10-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:roseconfused:


[10-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
also, guys, did  you see this latest speech?
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[10-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Wew, just read a thought-provoking post.


[10-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Marches[45]#0674
> Even if you ignore the fact that private platforms like this site are legally allowed to make whatever rules they want regarding the content they are willing to host, the whole free speech issue is actually in their favor too. In the US at least, the first amendment protects someone's private property from being used to advocate or support opinions and ideas they disagree or are uncomfortable with. So far from being censorship (which was always a dubious claim since limiting what can be posted here in no way forces people to stop drawing it), the people in charge putting their collective foot down about no longer wanting to associate with the symbols of a real life ideology responsible for some of the worst atrocities in modern history could be argued as an exercise of their right to free speech.


[10-Jul-20 08:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like private property is antithetical to freedom and free speech


[10-Jul-20 08:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can keep you personal property like toothbrushes tho


[10-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
the filter should be no nazi's ever


[10-Jul-20 08:17 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
filter it


[10-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
nope


[10-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Honahue#0656
no nazi's ever


[10-Jul-20 08:17 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
then be mad at it


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Daryl Davis the nazis if you want them gone lol


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Pushing them into corners is just gonna make more of em


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Just sayinnnn


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Honahue#0656
cause it doesn't mater if I filter it there will be others who affect me that didn't


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
derpi has a filter for a fucking reason, if you don't like it, don't look at it


[10-Jul-20 08:18 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Hona it really doesn't come across like you have a legit argument against it other than, "Grug no liek."


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
grug no like genocidal ideology


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
filter it


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
again


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
not a vacuum


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
it's already on the default filter


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
don't care


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>everything i don't like should be banned


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
other's whom affect me see it and respond to it


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] StephenFauster#2467
What do you mean by others who didn't filter it being able to affect you?


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Honahue#0656
i don't like genocidal ideologies


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Then there should be a system to block users


[10-Jul-20 08:19 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Are you afraid they'll give you memetic cooties?


[10-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm afraid they'll ruin a community online or offline


[10-Jul-20 08:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>i saw a white horse, NOW I AM A NAZI HAHAHAHAHA


[10-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
mmm yes Aryanne is just a white horse


[10-Jul-20 08:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>i see edgy joke, now i want to do what edgy joke says hahaha


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
>i don't like genocidal ideologies
Aight bro. As long as you h8 commies too hahaha


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] StephenFauster#2467
m8 people seem to be ruining the community pretty well on their own already.


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no no no


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
I am a commie so


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
don't really hate them


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
communism is just a socio economic theory


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Guess you like gulags and genocide


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
ignore the millions dead every time it comes up


[10-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Honahue#0656
yup cause not real communism


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
die mad


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
i don't filter commie because i don't get autistically angry about it


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Nazi Germany wasnt real national socialism


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
^: )


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
america is not real capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
can't even meme right


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
oh it is


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no it isn't


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
real capitalism hasn't been tried


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
there's never been "real capitalism" as envisioned by austrian school


[10-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Honahue#0656
cause this is just capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Communism has never killed anyone bro

||the promise of communism has killed millions tho||


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
everything that is not communism is captialism

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[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
nah


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
there's been fuedalism


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
therefore all not communism is real capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
hunter gatherers


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
nope


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuedalism used money


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
so?


[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
therefore not communist therefore capitalist

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[10-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Honahue#0656
it wasn't capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
it was feudalism


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Hona, you're sounding less and less like you want to actually discuss this and more and more like you're memeing and your opinion is meant to be safely discarded either because you're not taking this seriously or you're taking this incredibly seriously while being even more of a caricature than Aryanne. Blessings of the Jive Tyrant upon you.

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[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Crow#5457
@HorseFoxtrot, that makes no sense


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't cause you're a bunch of clowns


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
learn something before talking


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
You'll have to forgive and not antqgonize honahue. Theyre lost in the dogma of their belief


[10-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Honahue#0656
you don't even know me


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] StephenFauster#2467
How do you expect people to take you seriously if you won't give them the same deference?


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Honahue#0656
also I might be a few beers in and just enjoying getting people mad sorry m,ods


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
The same could be said for the supposed nazis


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
well, there we go.


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
muh nazi bad


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
But alas, here we are, a few beers down


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
everything he said this fine (insert relevant time of day) was a bait.


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
horse's mouth as it were.


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
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[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe a bit but also no


[10-Jul-20 08:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
ok so ignore


[10-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Honahue#0656
anyway capitalism isn't the default if it isn't communism that's like stupid libertarian speak


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
do not respond to bait


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
The incompetent communists will always breed more nazis haha


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
hunter gatherers aren't capitalists


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
feudalists aren't capitalist


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
mercantilism is almost capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
I dont want to be a hunter gatherer because i like internet and paying for my water bill


[10-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Honahue#0656
but there's been liek 10000 years of human civilization that isn't capitalism


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'm offeneded delete delete delete now


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
more actually


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
cause the 10k is just agriculture


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Opponent#3498
wow. You're so clever and learned.


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
oh no i'm offended that can't be! How can I be not offended, what is a fliter?


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
If hunter gatherers are so cool, why arent you out there, hunting and gathering, grug?


[10-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Honahue#0656
damn got me


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
African savanna is thataway


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Have fun haha


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
filters let you not see stuff you don't want to? huh pretty weird isn't it.


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
but it's not like i get offended by edgy jokes or anything!


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Why would I need to use that?


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Honahue#0656
don't really care there's no place in this world for bigotry


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Yet here you are


[10-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Bigoted


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
oh no, my delicate sensibilities are offended!


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
against something you can choose to not be


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Please ban what I don't like PLEASE!


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
You can drop your bigoted ways anytime, honahue


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
OH NO i see stuff I don't like, why are there evil people?


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
We will accept and debate u :)


[10-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
damn I'm so bigoted not wanting genocidal ideologies around


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Oh no filter? NO NO EVIL PEOPLE THEY ARE EVIL


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
When your solution is to genocide supposed genociders then yeah haha


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE EVIL


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
EVIL EVIL EVIL


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi:?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'M RIGHT UR WRONG


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
evil evil evil nazis


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
@Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛 for the Greater Good. Everything for the Greater Good.


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Am I?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
wow, my feelings are hurt, how can i stop this?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I know


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] StephenFauster#2467

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[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Let me call everyone I don't like a nazi!


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Why dont you tell me, nazi hunter


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
And get them banned!


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] StephenFauster#2467
I'm a tau.


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
oh no nazi is here!


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
I never called anyone, cept Aryanne, a nazi I'm asking if you are


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Nazi said they disagree with me, BAN!


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Nazi doesn't like getting banned? Double ban!


[10-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Honahue#0656
don't see any answers


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Nazi does thing i dislike BAN!


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Are we?


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
are you?


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Nazi make a joke, BAN!


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm asking not presuming


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Can people of color be nazis?


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
If i do not answer will i be presumed a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Joke about anything BAN your just a nazi1


[10-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Honahue#0656
nope, but will you answer


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
I can ban shit


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
can't


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
why are there so many evil nazis who disagree with me!


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm just a guy


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
why won't you answer though


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
not hars


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
No, i shan't answer and im frankly offended youd ask if i was what you think the worst kind of person


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
hard


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
OH NO dissenting opinions! If only there was a way that I didn't have to look at those!


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Opponent#3498
and now I'm wondering if BBC dom be considered a nazi fetish


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
yes or no


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I can just have them banned and call them a nazi!


[10-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Honahue#0656
not a big request


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
3 or 2 letters


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
and an enter


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Oh no! disagreement with me, GET BANNED NAZI!


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
damn cause I have ban powers


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Don't want to ban all nazis, GET BANNED NAZI!


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno are you


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, Schrodinger's Nazi.


[10-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
it'd be pretty easy to say


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
2 letters


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
He exists as both a Nazi and not at the same time.


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
and an enter


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Oh no! Evil nazi made his own site so he won't get banned, deplatform it now


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you disagree with what I say, you're a nazi. Only nazis would defend nazis. GET BANNED NAZI


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're going to hav to knokk him out of superposition by blaring one of Hitler's speeches.


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he starts saluting, he's a Nazi.


[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Honahue#0656
I disagree with genocides so I disagree with nazis

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[10-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he craps himself, he's not.


[10-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
If she floats, shes a witch


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] StephenFauster#2467
I actually got to pull that on a character in a TTRPG not long ago.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Witches are just Nazi women but who actually read the manual :bigbrain:

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[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
damn, I guess genociders float and non-genociders don't


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you disagree with me you're a nazi, If you defend nazis you're a nazi. Nazi's caused genocide so if you disagree with me you are literally supporting genocide.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if my argument is "genocide is bad"


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] StephenFauster#2467
They didn't warn her that it was full of holy water and if she started boiling alive then she was a witch, which was the actual test.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
and you disagree


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
nazi nazi nazi nazi nazi


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
when did I call you one?


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
I've only asked


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
then that would definitely make you a genocide supporter, tho not a Nazi in particular.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] StephenFauster#2467
The thing is that she was a Witch but not a witch.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazism is about *particular* genocides.


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
What if your argument is, if you make jokes you are a nazi


[10-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Honahue#0656
you've not answered seems like an easy thing to do


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Japanonʕ•ᴥ•ʔ✈H愛F愛#0312
Genociders dont call it genocide, they call it "not real communism"


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well that's not my argument.


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Honahue#0656
I make joke am not a nazi


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's your argument?


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It is a lot of peoples


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't care about the common person's arguments.


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's yours?


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
*Why are you here?*


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you like the edgy joke that is nazism you are a nazi


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Honahue#0656
are you a nazi?


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
me?


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Honahue#0656
yes


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
@Nebbie me?


[10-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
my position is if people want to make a joke, let them make it.


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you literally just here to be mad about people not filtering?


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] StephenFauster#2467
A Witch is a follower of the Witchcraft religion who was taught by another Witch to perform his or her magic. A witch is a label provided by the Church of the New God to mark anybody who is capable of performing Dark Magic.


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure what the point in talking about this is.


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Politics now Random Complaints lol)


[10-Jul-20 08:40 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Some Witches are witches but not all witches are Witches.


[10-Jul-20 08:41 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I didn't start it, and honestly i've had Honahue blocked for about 10 minutes now


[10-Jul-20 08:41 AM] StephenFauster#2467
We were asked to move from Memes and Shitposts to have this conversation, Nebbie.


[10-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Honahue#0656
damn edgy joke uh, trans women are women and trans men are men, that seems to be contiversial in some circles


[10-Jul-20 08:41 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
that'd be a real scathing remark if i knew what it said.


[10-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Honahue#0656
guess it's not a joke tho cause its just true


[10-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Honahue#0656
for about 10 minutes I've just been asking if you're a nazi


[10-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well if it's just going to "people should filter", I think it's more appropriate for #pegasite-discussion, actually.


[10-Jul-20 08:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Nah, i'm done. you can't convince people that jokes are not evil


[10-Jul-20 08:43 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Hold up I just looked back at the start of the conversation and *you were the one* who asked us to move here, m8.


[10-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Honahue#0656
jokes can be bad or in bad taste but not evil


[10-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
and I'm the drunk one too I followed the rules and admitted to being a commine and not a nazi weird that


[10-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slowmoding this cause it's spammy etc. Might help discourage people from not making actual arguments.


[10-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Aren't jokes are lies and stupid things people say to have a laugh?
By definition.


[10-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Honahue#0656
understandable


[10-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
sometimes but many jokes have a hint of truth


[10-Jul-20 08:45 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Hona you're the one who was spamming posting the same question over and over.


[10-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
well yueah it's an important question


[10-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Honahue#0656
and they never answered


[10-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
despite it being really simple


[10-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't make me slowmode this harder, Hona.

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[10-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Honahue#0656
sorry


[10-Jul-20 08:47 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Despite the fact that you basically opened the conversation by saying you're drunk and shitposting specifically to try to get someone's goat and not actually interested in having a legit conversation.


[10-Jul-20 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
but they weren't going to engage in good faith arguement if they weren't going to answer a very simple question


[10-Jul-20 08:47 AM] Honahue#0656
so I saw no point in trying to do anything else


[10-Jul-20 08:48 AM] Opponent#3498
you have to be the special kind of person to engage in good faith argument with someone who admitted unpromted that they're drunk and baiting people.


[10-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
not an idiot, mind. A really, really kind and forgiving soul.


[10-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Honahue#0656
it was a really simple question I spammed tho


[10-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, the question is simple and spammable. The potential answer is complex.


[10-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Honahue#0656
gonna disagree on that but okay I'll stop spamming


[10-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Honahue#0656
imo pretty easy to take a sinde on nazi or not


[10-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Honahue#0656
and they never engaged the qustion even in a nuanced way just "everyone I hate is a nazi"


[10-Jul-20 08:52 AM] StephenFauster#2467
And the question you were saying really isn't the question you were asking, so of course nobody gave you a straight answer. Nobody took the bait, man.


[10-Jul-20 08:54 AM] Honahue#0656
man it would've been easy to say "no"


[10-Jul-20 08:56 AM] StephenFauster#2467
And play into your drunken bait and wherever you were going to try to lead the conversation after that point. Cheeky non-answers were amusing.


[10-Jul-20 08:57 AM] StephenFauster#2467
So is watching you harp on this and run it into the ground instead of just moving the hell along and maybe coming up with something else.


[10-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Honahue#0656
I ain't Jackie Chan I don't get special powers from beer


[10-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Honahue#0656
cognitively I'd be playing into anyone elses traps cause you know a bit drunk


[10-Jul-20 09:21 AM] Reginald#0534
Politics sucks


[10-Jul-20 09:21 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Ferret waddlin' in droppin' some musky truths.

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[10-Jul-20 09:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn


[10-Jul-20 09:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
so much freeze peach hysterics and not answering a yes/no question.


[10-Jul-20 09:34 AM] Honahue#0656
also 2 people that joined in the past 24 hours


[10-Jul-20 09:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
this entire conversion:
hon: are you a nazi y/n?
them: nooo you can't call anyone you disagree with a nazi stop destroying my free speech how dare you, did you know communism killed 100 gorrillion
Like damn this was very simple and easy, it don't gotta be like that.


[10-Jul-20 09:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
"It was merely a joke stop censoring people for merely pretending to be nazis, I won't say I'm not a nazi tho"


[10-Jul-20 09:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I had Honahue blocked so I didn't hear the question, no I am not a nazi


[10-Jul-20 09:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
just say no, cool


[10-Jul-20 09:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
next time don't deflect and go on unrelated tangents tho, because it quite literally is unrelated derailing.
'merely pretending to think the jews are plotting to genocide the white race, no I'm just a centrist like you, please platform me' is why the alt-right even exists as a concept, crypto-fascism is a real, documented thing.


[10-Jul-20 09:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
And while I'm not sure I agree with db censorship or anything, it does have it's reasons.


[10-Jul-20 09:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can say 'haha I was just joking after making any number of fucked up statements' it turns out


[10-Jul-20 09:41 AM] StephenFauster#2467
>This drunk guy was asking people if they're nazis
>People start fucking with him
>They must be nazis

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[10-Jul-20 09:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
and it really doesn't change what you said, like if you say 'gas the jews, race war now', then people call you a nazi, then you simply state 'I was merely joking guys lol', like, can you see what I'm getting at here?


[10-Jul-20 09:42 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the funny thing is people do actually make jokes like that.


[10-Jul-20 09:42 AM] Opponent#3498
that you support drunk nazi baiting.


[10-Jul-20 09:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
sure it could be a joke, but was it really? that's the plausible deniability that has made crypto-fascism a well documented thing, you can give out dog whistles happily and when accused of it "I was merely pretending to be stupid"


[10-Jul-20 09:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>but was it really
yes


[10-Jul-20 09:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
a large part of the same discourse, is to gaslight and make anyone who accuses you of saying fucked up things feel like they're crazy, try to tell others that they're delusional and that they just hate free speech, again, this is a documented phenomenon that people who actually want to genocide minorities use regularly, today.


[10-Jul-20 09:44 AM] StephenFauster#2467
...Except he opened the conversation by saying he was drunk and baiting. Unbidden.


[10-Jul-20 09:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
edgy people say edgy things as jokes.


[10-Jul-20 09:44 AM] StephenFauster#2467
That should be enough of a context clue to show that it was not a serious discussion.


[10-Jul-20 09:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, and there should be consequences for crossing lines


[10-Jul-20 09:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The point is, people are smart enough to know what is and what isn't a joke.


[10-Jul-20 09:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can be edgy without attacking minorities quite easily, edginess that relies on punching down as the butt of a joke is poorly written humour 'haha n words are thugs amirite' is poor humour and should be boo'd and shown out of the stage


[10-Jul-20 09:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
we don't tend to platform really bad comedians.


[10-Jul-20 09:45 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I actually had a write up about what I consider free speech and what I don't but i lost it


[10-Jul-20 09:46 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Unless some other dude who wasn't involved in the discussion decides to come in and start trying to preach that the people involved in the joke are serious.


[10-Jul-20 09:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
They're shit at being comedians, we delete their work and ignore it, it's not worth archiving, it's simply low quality content.


[10-Jul-20 09:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
But yes, all jokes should be fine if they're jokes


[10-Jul-20 09:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
We don't tend to host mlp pictures drawn by toddlers with a mouse in MS paint either.


[10-Jul-20 09:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
In fact all jokes should be fine even if they arent jokes


[10-Jul-20 09:47 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Except you do. There was a lot of that I was trying to get through when collecting anatomical references for a lewdwrite project.


[10-Jul-20 09:47 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Which all gets put under a tag which a user can choose to filter out.


[10-Jul-20 09:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I'm of the opinion personally that benign aryanne art is totally fine for example, but if she's saying 'gas the griffs, race war now', not so much.


[10-Jul-20 09:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
what I'm trying to do here is not say 'censorship is good', just that some speech is shit, low quality, or bait and not worth private platforms hosting, there's good reasons behind TSP's decisions even if I don't agree with them


[10-Jul-20 09:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
the freeze peach hysteria around this quite simply is emotional hysteria.


[10-Jul-20 09:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'm of the opinion that pony=archived


[10-Jul-20 09:49 AM] StephenFauster#2467
I could get that, but those good reasons are not the reasons he has been purporting.


[10-Jul-20 09:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
unless of course it somehow breaks US law or doxes someone.


[10-Jul-20 09:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
tldr; yes it's bad, but it's not THAT bad, like it's like, you hit a speedbump that you didn't notice and your car is fine, but you're shocked for a second bad


[10-Jul-20 09:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it's really not that horrific, noone is out to get you lol


[10-Jul-20 09:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
people  really do be acting like it's a personal attack on them, and unless they're a nazi posting nazi talking points and nazi points of views ,it's probably not


[10-Jul-20 09:50 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Same. This fandom looks like it's going to be going through a dry spell of content that promotes the kind of creativity we've had, and it should be up to the individual user to decide which content they choose to view and what they don't, but it should be all available to them to make that choice.


[10-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Reginald#0534
are traps gay


[10-Jul-20 09:51 AM] StephenFauster#2467
People are worried that they could be next if God Emperor Admin's banning content because he doesn't like it.


[10-Jul-20 09:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's hysteria plain and simple


[10-Jul-20 09:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
yall acting like TSP is anita saarkesian or some meme figure lol


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it's that level of hysteria


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Because that's how he looks.


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Because that's how he acts.


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
doesn't matter how he looks, it matters what he actually does, and so far he hasn't done anything but promise to delete nazi shit, that's it.


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Before, he promised not to


[10-Jul-20 09:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is literally hysteria and whataboutism, muh slippery slope is a fallacy for a reason


[10-Jul-20 09:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm 100% convinced this is to get the /mlpol/ types 100% to fuck off for good, permanently putting them into obscurity, as they're a cancerous tumor upon the community.


[10-Jul-20 09:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not even about aryanne, if you go to an aryanne image you could easily find comments of people unironically being nazis


[10-Jul-20 09:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's about those people.


[10-Jul-20 09:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Did mlpol dox anyone? Did mlpol get the atlantic involved? Did mlpol takedown all their art from the site because they didn't like it? Did mlpol try to get patreon to drop derpi?


[10-Jul-20 09:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's about wanting them to fuck off forever.
it's not about you, it's not about centrists, it's about them specifically.


[10-Jul-20 09:55 AM] StephenFauster#2467
People you choose to interpret as unironically being nazis. You also tried to ascribe the same intent to us for shitposting at a shitposter.


[10-Jul-20 09:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
mlpol are fascists, who have fascists views, fascist opinions, genocidal ideology plain and simple, idk what you're trying to say, is this you doing the whole muh freeze peach you're delusional fascists don't exist anymore let me cover my eyes and ears lalalalala


[10-Jul-20 09:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
mlpol is not one person


[10-Jul-20 09:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
mlpol, is an offshoot of mlp for people that wanted to post /pol/ nazi shit but with ponies since ponies aren't allowed in /pol/ and generaly ideally /pol/ isn't allowed in /mlp/, at least on the scale they desire


[10-Jul-20 09:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
like, I've been to all of the above plenty, grew up on chans, I know what it's like, gaslighting me aint gonna work


[10-Jul-20 09:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
mlpol is for people who wanted to be edgy


[10-Jul-20 09:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
haha see they were merely pretending to be fascists


[10-Jul-20 09:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes, there are unironic nazis on mlpol big deal


[10-Jul-20 09:58 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
there are also lolberts, and edgelords and literally anybody else you can name.


[10-Jul-20 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
did you know /pol/ started ages ago as a board for shitposting and pretending to be nazis, but it turns out there's a rule that when you're pretending to be something, people who unironically believe those things think they're in good company? Poe's law.


[10-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Reginald#0534
I just want to fuck ponies, men


[10-Jul-20 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can, we just need to stop this cringe muh freeze peach hysteria


[10-Jul-20 09:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, it's important


[10-Jul-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
it is emotional and cringy and the equivilent of a child crying in public, in a populated supermarket that mommy won't buy him candy because it's bad for him


[10-Jul-20 09:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I will say, with 100% certainty, there are jews who defended aryanne.


[10-Jul-20 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes I've seen them, they've also posted questionable right wing views that would lead to other minorities being harmed


[10-Jul-20 10:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
people make jokes


[10-Jul-20 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
jews also have an apartheid ethnostate that is actively genociding Palestinians.


[10-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Reginald#0534
^


[10-Jul-20 10:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
jokes are sometimes edgy
fuck this 15 second bullshit
If you don't like it filter it.


[10-Jul-20 10:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine thinking because someone is a jew they have a good opinion lol, zionists are fascists, they're just white supremacism for jewish people


[10-Jul-20 10:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've said before Aryanne /existing/ is fine, it's when she positively endorses fascist talking points she's a problem.


[10-Jul-20 10:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I was making a point, idgaf if the person is jewish or not. The people that should be most offended by her don't care.


[10-Jul-20 10:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes and your point fell flat, this isn't about them, this isn't about aryanne.


[10-Jul-20 10:02 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Is it really white supremacy, though? I thought Zionists hated anyone who isn't specifically ethnically Jewish or at least considered them also a part of the Them.


[10-Jul-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
This is literally 100% positively not about aryanne, it's about the genuine fascists in the community who hide behind 'it was merely a joke, I was merely pretending to be a nazi', who have quite frankly been a pain in the ass for ages now.


[10-Jul-20 10:03 AM] Opponent#3498
it's about 'flavour of the month' rule changes and ban waves.


[10-Jul-20 10:03 AM] Reginald#0534
What a good opponent!


[10-Jul-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's not even about art, the art would be fine if it weren't for the genuinely 'I was merely pretending to be a nazi, based, gas the jews, n words are degenerates and they should go back to africa, segregation is good actually, race mixing is white genocide haha I was joking' types


[10-Jul-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Who exist, whether you like it or not, and by rabidly going into damage control about this, you defend them.


[10-Jul-20 10:04 AM] Opponent#3498
and there's a legion of them, right? Several hundred people TSP mentioned.


[10-Jul-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're doing it for free, protecting the naahhht'zeeee's


[10-Jul-20 10:05 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes I am. Everyone has the right to free speech. Goddamnit I don't care who they are.


[10-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
the problem is, they use pony for recruitment

your free speech ends where your genocidal beliefs begin.


[10-Jul-20 10:05 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you want to burn the flag, go ahead free speech.


[10-Jul-20 10:06 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
They do not use pony for recruitment, they think pony is degenerate.


[10-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Opponent#3498
the problem is, you still somehow believe _they_ (whoever they might be) use pony for recruiting.


[10-Jul-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you call for genocide you probably need mandatory therapy and maybe prison time if you're a danger for all.


[10-Jul-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
the therapist can probably decide if you're a danger to yourself or others.


[10-Jul-20 10:06 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I disagree, they don't need prison time, they at most maybe need therapy.


[10-Jul-20 10:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and that's a very very hard maybe.


[10-Jul-20 10:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
do you think, people who are actively killing others through anti-mask protests, 5g conspiracy about covid and such, should have their free speech despite the fact that spreading their opinions actively harm and kill others?


[10-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Opponent#3498
at first, some snowflake got media involved. On the BLM wave that's _bad_, deplatforming potential bad. So, the admin body reacting like they did, I fully supported. The project must survive.


[10-Jul-20 10:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes goddamnit


[10-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Opponent#3498
TSP made it clear it's simply him pushing his views though. You can bet the communist content isn't getting a ban.

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[10-Jul-20 10:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
so you believe that vulnerable people should happily be mislead by delusionally harmful people that are KILLING PEOPLE FROM IGNORANCE?


[10-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Reginald#0534
no one is killing anyone


[10-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Incorrect


[10-Jul-20 10:08 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I believe they should have it explained to them why 5g conspiracy is fucking retarded.


[10-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Sometimes its a waste to explain things to people who don't want to learn


[10-Jul-20 10:09 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
who?


[10-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Wootmaster#4625
And there are people who actively want to waste your time with explanations


[10-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Its fine to just give them the boot tbh


[10-Jul-20 10:10 AM] StephenFauster#2467
>They believe something I don't so we should just jettison them, don't even try to engage with them and argue against it. It's a waste of time.


[10-Jul-20 10:10 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
after having blocked woot for being a literally who, 5g is dumb and retarded, nobody is killing anybody from anti-maks protests.


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you've read a book you'd understand communism is not inherently genocidal, stalin was a paranoid maniac, and poor policy decisions caused the famine, lysenkism, which was anti-science and rejected genetics and fertilizer did, stalin believed this batshit stuff, the cultural revolution by mao put lawyers into farming rice soo, yeah, that's not inherent to communism at all, pretty much every capitalist nation has had poor policy decisions, they just didn't also have a population nearly that huge to feed that had just recently been under monarchist fuedalism using medieval tools, and had a population boom due to rapid growth of standards of living, and were unable to feed the booming population due to terrible policy decisions, of course you don't want to listen to this and you won't learn a thing, and you won't read any historic sources ,so all communism is literally exactly 200% the same and kills gorrillions every time.


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Correct, Steph


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, they are actively harmful, not using masks kills during a pandemic.


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
People should be able to protest


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are directly responsible for spreading harm to poorly educated and vulnerable populations that kills them.


[10-Jul-20 10:11 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Somebody did get shot over that in Cali, apparently. Just saw the news stub. I live in a top 10 city and people get shot over stupid things every day. It isn't news to me.


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I don't care if there's a pandemic or not.


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Wootmaster#4625
The idea that you have to reasonably debate every dumb idea that floats your way is idiotic


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, never real communism. I've heard that before Dis.


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
see, you can't read


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
generic meme response, very epic.


[10-Jul-20 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Iphone venezuela why don't you move to cuba?


[10-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Protesting is fine. I actually support people who want to protest against mask restrictions. It allows them to remove themselves from the genepool


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Wootmaster#4625
And choosing not to wear a mask puts people in harms way. It shouldn't be a political fucking debate. Its a virus.


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Mississippi lawmakers who had several continuous hours of a session had 26 of them test positive afterward.


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
communism is a stateless, classless society in which workers own and run the means of production democratically and private property doesn't exist (factories, farmland) but personal property does (your home, your toothbrush, your nintendo switch), this is by definition, there are hundreds of different leftist ideologies who wish to implement it and dragging out 20th century marxist leninism and maoism as the only examples of leftism ever, is subhumanly stupid and proves huge ignorance, we get it, you're stupid.


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Wootmaster#4625
And it doesn't care if you vote D or R


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] StephenFauster#2467
>People should die and be removed from the genepool because they're inferior
Nazi, much?


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Reginald#0534
Communism, much?


[10-Jul-20 10:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn that epic bad faith, it's almost like you're the problem


[10-Jul-20 10:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
wootmaster has made mistakes, but like, you're awfully unproductive right now if you wanna start a dialogue or improve the situation


[10-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Wootmaster#4625
I'm a big fan of people enjoying the consequences of their own actions


[10-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Wootmaster#4625
I support the marketplace of ideas


[10-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Opponent#3498
wow. Hit a nerve. It's almost like bringing up the few practical attempts (outside the realm of pure fantasy) is entirely irrelevant and is frowned upon. I wonder why.


[10-Jul-20 10:16 AM] StephenFauster#2467
I'm kind of past that point because you started on such a bad foot and then this guy rolls up and says something like that and you don't even bat an eye.


[10-Jul-20 10:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
most of the 'practical attempts' were crushed by CIA trained right wing death squads and replaced with fascist dictatorships with loyalty to US corporations, read a book


[10-Jul-20 10:16 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Also, it's 3 AM.


[10-Jul-20 10:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
Obama did one quite recently.


[10-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Wootmaster#4625
Reading is hard if its not a jpeg reposted from facebook


[10-Jul-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Honduran_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
they are literally this recent, you are a brainlet if you don't understand basic history.

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[10-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Wootmaster#4625
America only acknowledges coups when they fail


[10-Jul-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
socialists: hey maybe workers should have rights and stuff, wouldn't that be neat?
CIA: no, how about we murder you and back a pupper fascist dictator instead and then we can go back to saying socialism/communism doesn't owrk


[10-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Imagine calling Pinochet a leftist.


[10-Jul-20 10:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
repeat throughout the entirety of Central and South America in like 30 different countries for the past century.


[10-Jul-20 10:18 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>everytime my ideology fails it's CIA


[10-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
ah yes. And since they were crushed so successfully (I wonder if they, too, had systems valuing personal loyalty over anything else like maoism and USSR), they are, of course, a shining beacon of 'what could have been but never was'. Right.


[10-Jul-20 10:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Pinochet is a US-backed dictator who deposed by force, Chile's democratically elected socialist prime minister


[10-Jul-20 10:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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[10-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Opponent#3498
CIA. Stopping heaven on earth, one right-wing death squad at a time.


[10-Jul-20 10:19 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Dis, I think we've gotten everything productive we can get out of this discussion. It's 3 AM, and you're starting to quote D'Mite and Moon Man to make serious-sounding lecture points while complaining about people memeing at you.


[10-Jul-20 10:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, this but unironically.
Bolivia was doing great before it got couped very recently by US interests for it's lithium and natural gas reserves.


[10-Jul-20 10:20 AM] StephenFauster#2467
I also like the Chapelle Show but I think the situation has devolved in these wee witching hours.


[10-Jul-20 10:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
Venezuela is literally less socialist than Bolivia was before anyone brings up that meme argument, it still to this day has a largely privately owned and run economy which by definition is capitalist.


[10-Jul-20 10:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
and bolivia wasn't even super socialist, but it was socialist enough for US backed forced to coup last year sooooo


[10-Jul-20 10:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's only 6:21PM in aussieland tho


[10-Jul-20 10:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Venezueala didn't fail because of capitalism, It failed because it was too centralized.


[10-Jul-20 10:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Not maduro the guy before him decided that all venezuela needed was oil


[10-Jul-20 10:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, it had poor economic centralization around oil, very cringe, it's failure was entirely an accident due to US wanting to destablize russia through ooil prices in tandem with saudis right?
which again, by accident entirely subsequently started the huge crash of Venezuela's economy


[10-Jul-20 10:22 AM] StephenFauster#2467
>Straya

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[10-Jul-20 10:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Oil prices weren't stable to begin with.


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Anyone who didn't see the bubble wasn't lookin hard enough


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course, of course, it was only a matter of time


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, now I understand clearly why you chose to support the nazi baits :D


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes it unironically was.


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
But the problem wasn't the oil


[10-Jul-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's still interesting that it's a pure coincidence it happened when it did lol


[10-Jul-20 10:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It was building the entire fucking economy on oil


[10-Jul-20 10:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
like, an unintended side-effect.
Yeah, that's dumb regardless of ideology.


[10-Jul-20 10:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm sure Venezuela has plenty of other resources it could've branched out to while it was making bank from oil.


[10-Jul-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
It didn't so we'll never know what could've been tho lol, Guiado, the LARP president US backed is cringe tho


[10-Jul-20 10:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and instead of diversifying it, or putting it into efficiency, they instead decided that giving everyone free stuff to keep them in power was better.


[10-Jul-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
@Marches[45] when did anyone say pinochet was anything but very authoritarian and right wing?


[10-Jul-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, edgelords in this server love le helicopter ride meme, it's amazing when you love free speech but you also stan pinochet


[10-Jul-20 10:26 AM] Wootmaster#4625
cognitive dissonance is a specialty of shitposters


[10-Jul-20 10:26 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Venezuela had the highest growing human development index (i think that's what it's called)


[10-Jul-20 10:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
he was known for killing anyone he didn't like and training dogs to rape people he didn't like


[10-Jul-20 10:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
and bodying people who weren't even leftist, under suspicion of being a leftist ofc, throwing them into pits, some still not found


[10-Jul-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
All while backed by the US giving record profits for their corporations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

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Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States-backed campaign of political repression and state terror involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents, officially and formally implement...
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[10-Jul-20 10:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
And then their economy collapsed because they only invested in fucking oil.


[10-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
hah. I never thought I'd miss Nebbiechamber over here.


[10-Jul-20 10:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, people love to ignore the ebil democratically elected leftist leaders in central and south america who did such horrible things as give workers human rights and have good approval ratings


[10-Jul-20 10:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
but that wasn't real communism because the CIA killed them within years


[10-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Silly Opponent


[10-Jul-20 10:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>everytime my ideology fails either it wasn't real communism or CIA

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[10-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are now going to be drowned in pure, refined communism.


[10-Jul-20 10:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism is failing right now you brainlet


[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course, capitalism can't '''''fail'''' because it's the default


[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not even the Stalinist kind! It's RADICAL communism! Mwahahahhaha.


[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Opponent#3498
Nebbie, we had Aaron for that.


[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can't fail when there's no fail state documented, most of africa is capitalist, I see that's working out well for it.


[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aaron was the first disk mini-boss.

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[10-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Cap failed 90 years ago.


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you love capitalism so much, why don't you move to Somalia?


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're now in CHAZ/CHOPland.


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
CHAZ/CHOP was cringe


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Africa failed for a lot of reasons, more than just capitalism


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
and was 100% LARP


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Let's start with the second world war.


[10-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Francisco Nguema.


[10-Jul-20 10:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
most of the world is capitalist.
Surprisingly much of it is still a shithole, and first world countries actively benefit from cheap capitalist coltan mined by children for pennies.


[10-Jul-20 10:35 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
At the time, most of africa was held by the british empire and france.


[10-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Reginald#0534
Capitalism is not failing


[10-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Marches[45]#0674
It already did. The ship sailed


[10-Jul-20 10:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
After the war, neither of them had the money or willpower to hold onto most of their former empires.


[10-Jul-20 10:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
in what way is covid not a failure of capitalism, what kinda deflection you got about vietnam, right next to china? lol


[10-Jul-20 10:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not vietnam stan as I think ML states are cringe and largely state capitalist.


[10-Jul-20 10:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
This was pushed by the US


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Reginald#0534
Capitalism cannot fail


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Too late


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Reginald#0534
Capitalism is not to serve to the poor, but to the rich


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Sorry, the US and Soviet Union


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
if your ideology cannot fail, and it is being compared to one that can fail, then the game you're playing is kinda rigged right there


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/duterte-congress-allies-order-shut-philippines-abs-cbn-200710043240204.html

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Duterte's Congress allies back order to shut Philippines' ABS-CBN
Shutdown deprives millions of Filipinos access to information while thousands of employees are expected to lose jobs.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/7/6/81512168231f43ddb3ff1f0643f9d82b_18.jpg


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're not being faithful in that case.


[10-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Ah, it’s not a bug, it’s a design feature.


[10-Jul-20 10:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
the United States of America had more food insecurity and infant mortality than cuba before the pandemic


[10-Jul-20 10:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
because of this, and internal pressure, africa was given freedom, but the cultral, political, and ethnic lines in africa had no real meaning when splitting it up


[10-Jul-20 10:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
Cubans are also more literate than americans.


[10-Jul-20 10:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Also most of the world uses africa as a dumping ground and exploits it for natural resources


[10-Jul-20 10:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, that's called imperialism, which is capitalism working as intended.


[10-Jul-20 10:39 AM] Reginald#0534
Capitalism is not ideology


[10-Jul-20 10:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Imperialism is dead.


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] Reginald#0534
it's economcial movement


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao, big brain take right there


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Except in china, as they're colonizing africa and bullying their neighbors.

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[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Capitalism has an immeasurable effect on social spaces, read a book.


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Capitalism isn't purely economic, because most of the problems it creates are social ones.


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] wren#0114
burp


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] wren#0114
goodnight


[10-Jul-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
we need to solve the landlord problem first


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] Reginald#0534
@wren +tucc


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
Answer the landlord question dare I say.


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] Reginald#0534
lol, kill the rich type of problem - in 2020


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Unfortunately, most problems in the world don't have easy solutions.


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
good time as any eh?


[10-Jul-20 10:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
taxing bezos and his ilk out the ass and using that military to invade countries for their spicy bank accounts for laundering might help


[10-Jul-20 10:42 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Or it'll make things worse for everyone.


[10-Jul-20 10:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe the military would have a use then.
swiss bank accounts, more like swiss cheese gotteeeem?


[10-Jul-20 10:42 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Rich flee the US and move their money elesewhere, massive international backlash.


[10-Jul-20 10:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm shitposting there, but like, capitalism, by design, creates people like bezos, there is no 'fixing that'\

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[10-Jul-20 10:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
well since americans go on about borders so much, why let them flee if borders are so good?


[10-Jul-20 10:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Borders are not meant to keep people in, but keep them out.


[10-Jul-20 10:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
isn't that the point in borders?
is bezos going to fly his warehouses to switzerland?


[10-Jul-20 10:43 AM] Marches[45]#0674
The end goal of a free market venture is an anti-free market phenomenon.


[10-Jul-20 10:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, if someone wants to leave let them.


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Reginald#0534
Capitalism so good, ahh~ :nut:


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
like rich people leaving is literally fine if you redistribute the infrastructure, use empty factories for something good, ect


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Reginald#0534
👀


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
who gets to decide?


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
the people would love manufacturing jobs at the local level I'm sure


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Opponent#3498
people loyal to the cause, of course :D


[10-Jul-20 10:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and if the people disagree?


[10-Jul-20 10:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway this is like, some bullshittery within captialism of course fixing capitalism with a solution that relies on capitalism still existing is an inherent problem


[10-Jul-20 10:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
americans are brainwashed to shit, they believe they're better off than most of the world if they work 60 hours a week and live in a crackhouse


[10-Jul-20 10:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
and still complain about europe having no freedoms while 40 of their 60 worked hours go into a landlord's pocket or a mortgage


[10-Jul-20 10:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I can have a gun and say the n word on the internet and not get arrested.

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[10-Jul-20 10:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can freely die in a ditch homeless yes


[10-Jul-20 10:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the rest of the world tends to have measures against that, also dying of preventable causes


[10-Jul-20 10:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I won't because I'm not acting like a retard with money


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
so most Americans are 'retards', as you say?


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I also don't live in a big city with overinflated costs of living
yes.


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Reginald#0534
Niggerian prince


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
so you think most of the american population deserves to die dirt poor and hungry, early due to preventable illness?


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Reginald#0534
Nope


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, I think they need to be better with their money.


[10-Jul-20 10:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're beginning to sound like a fascist m8.


[10-Jul-20 10:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're blaming dirt poor people, born dirt poor, in a country enormously rich with most people living in third worlds standards, for their problems entirely, and not the society that owes a social debt to it's people?


[10-Jul-20 10:48 AM] Reginald#0534
I think no one deserves anything


[10-Jul-20 10:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
doesn't living in a society tend to have benefits in the first world? We invented society for a reason m8


[10-Jul-20 10:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
in my perfect system, the government would get out of healthcare, breakup monopolies, and give vouchers to those who actually need it.

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[10-Jul-20 10:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can be a rugged individualist all you like because you got lucky, but in the end most people are dirt poor and you're smugly telling people who work 60 hours a week to work harder


[10-Jul-20 10:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I used to work 70 hours a week fuck off.

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[10-Jul-20 10:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
you shouldn't have.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I certainly should have.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Opponent#3498
dirt-poor people also tend to make pretty poor revolutionaries, so you have to also appeal to others.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
noone should have to, that's inhumane and terrible for both your physical and mental health.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Reginald#0534
@HorseFoxtrot ur the working class, you, I like you


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I know, so I fucking quit.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
unions won the 40 hour work week lol.


[10-Jul-20 10:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Unions are alright up to a point.


[10-Jul-20 10:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
like damn if people can't survive on 40 hours despite that universally being considered a human right, maybe your country is fucked up


[10-Jul-20 10:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
40 hours is plenty here in aussieland


[10-Jul-20 10:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
we have something called an alright minimum wage, could be better, but at least we're not third world living standards for the poorest of us


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
What is the innercity being ignored by people who they elect?


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
That they keep electing I might add


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
because two party systems are flawed and aren't democracy


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I could survive off of 40 a week.


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Local politics


[10-Jul-20 10:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
democrats and republicans are both neoliberals, one just believes a bit more in racism and cutting taxes for rich people, one is slightly more humane


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>what is obamas drone war?


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're both evils, you simply vote for the lesser of two evils, that never works out in your favour


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes, and they're not doing anything to help the country.


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
not an argument, I literally linked an Obama era us backed CIA coup recently, I see you're used to arguing with stupid liberals, obama is just as much a neoliberal as trump
obama and trump are the same


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bush/Obama's dead terrorist farm.


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kill a terrorist and his family.


[10-Jul-20 10:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
No, killing all rich people is not a solution


[10-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
You gain votes from idiots bakk home. In the terrorist's country, his extended family and friends become terrorists out of spite. New terrorists to kill.


[10-Jul-20 10:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, it is actually, because their assets still exist and can be used, rich people aren't magically hard working big brain people, most of them are fairly average intelligence and got wealth from mommy and daddy


[10-Jul-20 10:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Not a **good** solution


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see, brown people are a resource that drones can turn into domestic votes. Even if that's not the intention, that's how it works in practice, and how it works in practice is all that matters for pavlovian conditioning.


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, because if you give someone off the street a million dollars, they're not going to know what the fuck to do with it and waste it.


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
you cannot tell me that billionaires actually earn that wealth, that it's not off of the back of their suffering employees


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Multi billionaires with multinational industries, no


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, if you gave someone a million dollars, they would simply invest into the economy you brainlet


[10-Jul-20 10:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole system is rigged to be racist.


[10-Jul-20 10:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
spending money is actually good :O
hoarding money is objectively bad economically


[10-Jul-20 10:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine not understanding basic economics


[10-Jul-20 10:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
A small business owner who put everything on the line to get a little business. Yes


[10-Jul-20 10:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't think of the small business owners, they literally do not matter


[10-Jul-20 10:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
They literally do matter.


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's literally the same of thinking of a 'mom and pop landlord', it doesn't garner my empathy, a small chain grocery store is no better than a walmart functionally


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
They are the most important part of the economy, the middle class.


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] Reginald#0534
All taxes should be cut in half


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
the shrinking middle class that will soon not exist due to capitalism?


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] Marches[45]#0674
according to political lip service, “small business is the backbone of our economy”


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's almost like a new deal made the middle class big, and the top tax was 95% or so


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] Reginald#0534
The state should not donate any social action ever, leave that money in citizen's hands


[10-Jul-20 10:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
capitalism and interventionism are not the same.


[10-Jul-20 10:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
I bet you think when American capitalism following austrian economics is failing it's actually just corporatism?


[10-Jul-20 10:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
modern america is a third world nation thanks to freee market economics, it 'was' good thanks to keynesian economics, social democratic economics


[10-Jul-20 10:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
interventionism is the worst, it mixes the worst of free market with the worst of planned economy.


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] Reginald#0534
^


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
the new deal pulled america out of the great depression and lead to the American dream, it's been erased since like, the 70s over time, the rest of the first world is following suit, as it's more profitable to capitalists to copy america, just trailing behind a couple decades,


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
A little bit of government control can help, a lot of it will fuck a country.


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
idk, the new deal involved a lot of big government and lead to good outcomes


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>american dream


[10-Jul-20 11:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
might wanna read up on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

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The New Deal was a series of programs, public work projects, financial reforms, and regulations enacted by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the United States between 1933 and 1939. It responded to needs for relief, reform, and recovery from the Great Depression. Major federa...
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[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't is pretty great when it's distributing jobs and shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
idk, seems pretty big government to me.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>implying it wasn't a thing only because the rest of the world was fucked from WW2


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not so great when it's bulldozing your land to get a pipeline going that you won't benefit from.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
new deal was shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
>implying it wouldn't have benefitted people regardless of that
no, it was because communists were threatening to overthrow the state


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav corrupted gov't into a bunch of restrictions that they themselves argue against.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
new deal was great, and what made america great.


[10-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They talk about removing regulations as they add them themselves to all sorts of social programs.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
New deal fucked the US harder than the soviets did.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
it stopped communists from cutting rich fuck's heads off because it gave workers what they needed .


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
what's your source, mises.org? the economic freedom foundation?


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then they penny-pinch the fukking IRS, their main source of actual money to pay for shit, as the reeeeeeee about WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's pretty clear their gameplan isn't to actually improve the country.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
You don't need to do the dumbest shit FDR did.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Opponent#3498
implying Soviets were ever a negative factor to the US...


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
what dumb shit?


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
what was bad about it?
enlighten me what was objectively a net bad.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
FDR was a smart cookie and he did things for a reason.


[10-Jul-20 11:02 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
a little bit of welfare can go a long way and help a lot of peopl.


[10-Jul-20 11:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
welfare is objectively good, see most of the first world having higher living standards than you poor third world richest country.


[10-Jul-20 11:03 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the government paid compensation to farmers who reduced output, thereby raising prices


[10-Jul-20 11:03 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
reducing food output in a famine lol


[10-Jul-20 11:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
the farmers couldn't afford their own homes, people had to have working class solidarity and not bid on their homes when the bank sold them


[10-Jul-20 11:04 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Then just say they can't be forclosed on until a set fucking date.


[10-Jul-20 11:04 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
food stamps are good, I know people who can eat only due to them.


[10-Jul-20 11:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
how about universal basic income instead of dehumanizing the poor? It's gonna happen whether you like it or not, eventually


[10-Jul-20 11:05 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
also, teddy was better than fdr in literally every way.


[10-Jul-20 11:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I'm against it in the sense that it just keeps capitalism's bloated corpse running along


[10-Jul-20 11:05 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
ubi or dehumanize the poor, I have only those two options?


[10-Jul-20 11:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it'll be necessary as increasing automation replaces everyone


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's already beneficial.


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
When we get to that point, that'll be great, I can sit at home and shitpost all day. But the world isn't even fucking close.


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
your government should be building public housing


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Reginald#0534
Dehumanize the poor even more!


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
housing market is fucked everywhere mind you, every government should be so landlords can't just price, gauge everyone forever


[10-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Or giving the many vacant homes to the homeless


[10-Jul-20 11:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
allow squatting in abandoned buildings tbqh


[10-Jul-20 11:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
Or giving the many vacant homes to the homeless, yes, that's preferable but that would be theft of private property to brainlet capitalists who don't care about filthy poors


[10-Jul-20 11:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
as y'know, there are already enough houses for the homeless.


[10-Jul-20 11:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
I believe rent should actually give you 'shares' to a house since you pay for it, and if the landlord sells, or dies, you get paid out from the resulting sale in a percentage of the mortgage you paid for.


[10-Jul-20 11:08 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
so no rent just lease to own?


[10-Jul-20 11:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
rent should be abolished yes.


[10-Jul-20 11:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rent is inherently predatory, hotels exist for the purpose of more temporary dwelling, no doubt there should be institutions to transfer your housing credits away from one home to another if you must move for work


[10-Jul-20 11:09 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
no, just breakup monopolies fam


[10-Jul-20 11:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
private ownership of multiple properties by one person will still be an enourmous problem


[10-Jul-20 11:09 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
how?


[10-Jul-20 11:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
223 different supermarket brands won't liberate me mate


[10-Jul-20 11:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
if walmart doesn't have market dominance, it makes very little difference to ordinary people


[10-Jul-20 11:10 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>if walmart doesn't have market dominance, it makes very little difference to ordinary people
And that's where you're wrong.


[10-Jul-20 11:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
why is it that americans always think having 10 brands of ketchup makes you free?


[10-Jul-20 11:11 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Monopolies raise prices as they see fit, and trusts should be busted too.


[10-Jul-20 11:11 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Because trusts do the same as monopolies.


[10-Jul-20 11:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, and they can form unions of corporate interest to collectively price gauge everyone


[10-Jul-20 11:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
even if it's secret


[10-Jul-20 11:11 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
That is literally a trust.


[10-Jul-20 11:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
and let's say you hide that for years and the government only fines you a few million? after all, crime in the corporate sector is no biggie


[10-Jul-20 11:12 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It should be more than a few million tbqh


[10-Jul-20 11:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you make more as a result, some fines won't do shit


[10-Jul-20 11:13 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
make it a few billion and the companies involved are nationalized and have their assets auctioned off.


[10-Jul-20 11:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you want prisons to still exist and not to abolish them, perhaps throwing corporate criminals into prison AS WELL AS A FINE is a better idea, fines don't work for corporate crime.


[10-Jul-20 11:13 AM] Reginald#0534
Why do we always say 'care for the poor', and not 'care about the rich'


[10-Jul-20 11:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
Iceland threw bankers into jail in '08

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[10-Jul-20 11:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
seems decent enough an idea to me


[10-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Because many of the rich are freakish psychopaths.


[10-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Reginald#0534
Iceland is nice


[10-Jul-20 11:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Because many of the rich are freakish psychopaths.[2]
you can make a shittone of people notably poorer suffer and even die and get away with it because corporate crime aint shit, but you steal $100 and you're in jail for ages and it's serious business


[10-Jul-20 11:15 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
pumping an economy full of funny money is bad.


[10-Jul-20 11:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
well you see if you take said money..., instead of making new money


[10-Jul-20 11:15 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
every dollar you print is a tax on every other dollar.

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[10-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Reginald#0534
just stop printing money


[10-Jul-20 11:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
simply print more money until 1 billion dollars is worthless, create a new deviation where 1 dollar is 1 million dollars, then give everyone 100 dollars universally


[10-Jul-20 11:16 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
is that a joke?


[10-Jul-20 11:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
billionaires BTFO


[10-Jul-20 11:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, inflating billionaires into being too poor to be rich and then giving people UBI hasn't been tried before,


[10-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Opponent#3498
that escalated quickly.


[10-Jul-20 11:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
I thought some of yall might have an inflation fetish and enjoy this one, guess not


[10-Jul-20 11:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I want to destroy currency as a concept and markets as a concept anyway.


[10-Jul-20 11:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't actually want to do these things btw, because that would still be operating under capitalism, which is objectively harmful, so that's not a viable solution since you'd just get more billionaires and megacorps later


[10-Jul-20 11:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Government spending should be lowered, some welfare is good, bureacracy needs a fucking chainsaw taken to it, monopolies and trusts need to be broken, the government needs full public viewage 24/7, we need bill of right 2.0 electric boogaloo, fuck the government, controls for workers rights should be more heavily enforced, mulinationals can fuck off and die, no more lobbying, stronger punishments for white collar and business crimes, stop subsidies, stop corporate welfare, end the drug war.


[10-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Compu#0668
i need welfare to survive


[10-Jul-20 11:19 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>some welfare is good


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes but you see my friend, capitalists think you should suffer


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Compu#0668
i know they do


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
you need to be dehumanized and given food stamps, not your own money to spend.


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
ok and?


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
you need to be forced to live with 4 other people in a borderline crackhouse because rent is so damn high.


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck them. and fuck this 15 second counter holy shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Compu#0668
i've seen people tell me to my face i deserve to suffer endlessly for being even a tiny burden on their taxes


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
because so long as you're not dead, you can keep wages down by being desperate for work and income


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Marches[45]#0674
They burden taxes more, I bet.


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Compu#0668
i can't work due to health issues


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
so they think you should suffer your whole life I guess


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hardly any of the gov't's budget goes to welfare for the common person.


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
exactly
some welfare is good


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of it goes to veterans because of our shitty fragmented social safety nets that are inefficient as fukk


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I think you deserve a fulfilling life where you can learn shit and express yourself and actually have a hope at your dreams


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Compu#0668
i'm already likely going to suffer my whole life unless i get a sugar daddy or some shit, but i'm not morally depraved enough to do that


[10-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
A toooooooon goes to the military as a whole.


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
and that you shouldn't have to 'work hard' to have at least a mediocre standard of living, that's pathetic thought that belongs in the last few centuries.


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans like to nikkel and dime over like, 1% of the budget.


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The military needs no bid contracts, rather than that it should be fine.


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Unfortunately the US is the power of a monopolar world.


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Compu#0668
we get $800 a month for general spending for 3 people, plus i think $300 in food stamps and section 8 pays our $700 rent


[10-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they disagree with it morally for what it does, not because of "fiscal conservatism" or whatever other nonsense they're spewing. Reaganomics is a complete sham btw. Feeding the horse more so its crap feeds the birds.


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
how about you keep markets out of military and have state run corporations with factories where workers are hired to make the weapons?


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Compu#0668
bills drains the $800 rather quickly


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice, the horse has a manure bag, which it sells for more food.


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If it wasn't I would 100% support abolishing a standing military.


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
that'd be cheaper and you'd hire and pay lots of people well.


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Reginald#0534
>people think money matters
>not means of production
Marx is rolling in his grave over your stupidity


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>how about you keep markets out of military and have state run corporations with factories where workers are hired to make the weapons?
It unironically would be cheaper holy shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
also abolish all copyright, patents, ect on military stuff, fuck that shit


[10-Jul-20 11:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
that's too far.


[10-Jul-20 11:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean didn't that happen in world wars? local manufacturing of weapons, tanks, ect?


[10-Jul-20 11:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
people have a right to profit off of something they made for a limited about of time.


[10-Jul-20 11:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
seemed to give them the best tech available just fine and we can manufacture shit with much better quality these days


[10-Jul-20 11:24 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
like 20 years or so.


[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It didn't, look at us war economy, everybody in the arms trade made billions.


[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Compu#0668
as long as disney exists copyright will be forever basically

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[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Reginald#0534
destroy the jews

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[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck disney


[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Compu#0668
wat


[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Reginald#0534
ban the jewish companies and disband the fake state of izrael, woo!


[10-Jul-20 11:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
the military would be orders of magnitude cheaper if it were simply manufactured locally through state run corporations


[10-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Compu#0668
i really hope that's just trolling


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[10-Jul-20 11:26 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It would be compared to the system in place now.


[10-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted the guy who just spewed actual anti-semitism out of nowhere.


[10-Jul-20 11:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
like sure you might need to import some specialty items, but it's not like a lot of military shit isn't fairly simple in design, we can already 3d print most of a gun's parts reliably and in good quality.


[10-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Compu#0668
yeah jesus christ what the fuck


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If the US was not a world power I would 100% support getting rid of the standing military and only having national guard.


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
it doesn't need to be a world power sticking it's dick in absolutely everything


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he wants to explain how he was just joking or whatever, he'll need to do it to someone else, cause I'm going to bed.


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
get america out of aussie pine gap


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Compu#0668
i should bed too


[10-Jul-20 11:27 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
All world powers do it, and better the US than china.


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Compu#0668
anyways we need trump out of office and in prison


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
china has no reason to go at war with you, they only benefit from your trade.


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
That's not the point


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Compu#0668
fuck china


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
fearmongering over dick waving competitions really aint helping


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's power projection and power being held over other countries.


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If the US doesn't do it someone else would, and they would exploit the countries far worse than the US does.


[10-Jul-20 11:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
American military budget could easily be half were it run efficiently, I fucking bet


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's the most inefficient bloated mass out there.


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes, I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing a military is necessary.


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] Compu#0668
ideally nothing would ever be run for profit because no one would need profit to survive


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
only if the us is a world power.


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's working as intended though, the american military budget, like much of american policy, is uhhh, y'know, corporate subsidy


[10-Jul-20 11:29 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I am aware.


[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Abolish private prisons.

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[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
australia does it too dw, we wanna copy big daddy america


[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
That is why a literal state run war economy would be better than what we have today.


[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Abolish private prisons for sure, fuck they're dystopian, and they're real.


[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Abolish prison slavery too, fuck slavery.


[10-Jul-20 11:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I am not going to argue in favor of private prisons, fuck the drug war.


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If i want to use shrooms fuck you.


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
Prison slavery literally artificially takes more US jobs and wages than immigrants ever will damnit


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Compu#0668
fucking people with shrooms?


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Use drug money to find rehab.


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
like manufacturing? it's all in prison lmao, goodbye manufacturing sector.


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I think people on death row should have a coloseum to fight it out and whoever wins gets to go free.


[10-Jul-20 11:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'd like to try acid at some point, with my welfare money of course, im stimulating the economy


[10-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Compu#0668
u know what takes the most jobs? the fucked up US education system


[10-Jul-20 11:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
but only if they actually fucking deserved the death penalty.


[10-Jul-20 11:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck the education system honestly


[10-Jul-20 11:32 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
it's all fucked. all of it. it needs to fucking go.


[10-Jul-20 11:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, that does it too, can't say the standard model is working for most though, it's due to capitalism, limit public school funding increases, can't make schools bigger and better, can't hire more teachers OOPS you've got teachers overworked to shit teaching like 40 kids to one person fuck


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Compu#0668
there's a lot more jobs in areas that require college degrees but people can't fucking afford college


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
the teachers are also underpaid while teaching way more kids than they should


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
which is why teachers rightfully can and should go on strike.


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the us spends the most money per student in the world, more money is not the solution.


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Compu#0668
oh and FUCK charter schools


[10-Jul-20 11:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
where the fuck is it going?


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
the rest of the world still be having higher quality education lol


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Compu#0668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_htSPGAY7I

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[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
teachers are still underpaid and overworked in the US


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
bueracracy(which i've been misseplling this entire time)and unions


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
bureaucracy


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Private schools are scams.


[10-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Compu#0668
beer-a-crazy


[10-Jul-20 11:35 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'd rather my kids ||that i dont have|| go to private school of my choosing than a public school.


[10-Jul-20 11:35 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
if there is no private school within distance I'll fucking homeschool em.


[10-Jul-20 11:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1281501431317458945

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[10-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Compu#0668
@HorseFoxtrot what if all the choices r shit where they actively work to fail ur kid just to keep them in the school because they get paid based on reported attendance and nothing else


[10-Jul-20 11:36 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
then I'll fucking homeschool em.


[10-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Compu#0668
still gotta take them to schools for certain tests


[10-Jul-20 11:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
and that's  how anti-vaxxers were born


[10-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Compu#0668
where the testing is unfair


[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
but the current public school system is shit, I know, i've been through it.


[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
nahh, the system needs unfucking


[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Compu#0668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6lyURyVz7k

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[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
OH LOOK TV FUNNY MAN SAY THING


[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
everyone do really be copying america with that neoliberalism making things steadily worse tho


[10-Jul-20 11:37 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fuck off with colbert, and neoliberalism is dying.


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
europe, australia, uk, ect


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Compu#0668
colbert?


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
still strong in australia sadly, tories in the uk are also very neolib, both dems and repubs are neolib, where is it dying?


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
fucking oliver fuck


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Compu#0668
:/


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
who gives a shit fuck tv funny man


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
you sound mad


[10-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Compu#0668
i mean u could watch the video first and *then* shit on it


[10-Jul-20 11:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>where is it dying
everywhere, at least in the US.


[10-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
neoliberal populism is still neoliberalism


[10-Jul-20 11:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
and yes, we bernie bros really do be getting burnt out of voting for biden clones


[10-Jul-20 11:39 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
tv funny man is not an argument and i refuse to learn about politics from a comedian on msm tv


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
problem is trump is just le funny man biden with racism on the side


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Compu#0668
on the side?


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're more or less the same, like if you give me coke and diet coke, it's still coke m8


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
in the democratic party, socialism is becoming very popular, and trump is not a neolib.


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Compu#0668
i'd say front and center


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's not a choice.
america is just coke and diet coke


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes i will make that fucking argument Trump is not a neolib


[10-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take diet racism please.


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv me Biden and let him die in office so his VP can be a little more liberal.


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean he cuts taxes for the rich still


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then Bernie can force her to do shit properly.


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
more corporate bailouts, what does he do specifically that isn't at least a bit neolib?


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Compu#0668
even if biden doesn't die in office he's better than trump


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
if he's not neolib he's like, a orange flavoured variation of neolib


[10-Jul-20 11:41 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>I mean he cuts taxes for the rich still
I unironically got most of my taxes cut because of trump.


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Compu#0668
not by much but at this point i'll take anything even remotely better


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know people who paid more because of trump.
lucky for some.


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Compu#0668
i don't pay taxes 😄


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
it wasn't as universal as you think.


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Is it paid more or didn't get as much back?


[10-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Compu#0668
in order to pay taxes u need something to tax


[10-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
not 100% sure but they lost money they depended on so maybe got less back, if you live from paycheck to paycheck it doesn't really matter if you already get fuck all


[10-Jul-20 11:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
tax returns are a thing.


[10-Jul-20 11:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
most people live from paycheck to paycheck and these cuts didn't help them meaningfully


[10-Jul-20 11:43 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you didn't pay as much you wouldn't get as big a tax return.


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I've met people living paycheck to paycheck that work hard and spend their money well.


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
if anything they hurt them through cuts to social services


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
whether they were literal cuts, or sneaky boi cuts where you still 'increase' the budget, but don't increase it as much as previous years.


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I've met people that buy a new car every year, a new phone with plan, and are living paycheck to paycheck.


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I agree, trump should've taken a chainsaw to the budget.


[10-Jul-20 11:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
and I know people well who are still using shitboxes of every variety and don't


[10-Jul-20 11:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
he should've increased social system budget


[10-Jul-20 11:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
have you seen the absolute state of american roads? very cringe.


[10-Jul-20 11:45 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
But there is a 4th branch to the us government, bureaucracy.


[10-Jul-20 11:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
if anything welfare needs to be increased more than ever


[10-Jul-20 11:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
with too much of it nothing actually gets done and all money wasted. Yes, road are shit, i've driven on them, and some roads are great, i've driven on them.


[10-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
covid aint no '08, it's worse.


[10-Jul-20 11:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
welfare needs a cut of the bureaucracy handling it.


[10-Jul-20 11:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
there will be no 'return to normal', the rate of profit tends to fall, that's something marx predicted very well.


[10-Jul-20 11:46 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
yes, bureaucracy is fucking terrible and should mostly be fucked to death.


[10-Jul-20 11:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'm not as blackpilled as saying that revolution is the only way to fix things.


[10-Jul-20 11:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's only so much you can squeeze out of a developing word before it's developed enough to not be so cheap


[10-Jul-20 11:47 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I still believe reform is possible.


[10-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm pretty blackpilled on this ngl


[10-Jul-20 11:48 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
We are not even close enough to say the world is developed enough.


[10-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
can you blame the bernie bros and corbyn bois of the world for being blackpilled by now? lol


[10-Jul-20 11:48 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes.


[10-Jul-20 11:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
we been burnt out by dodgy rigged bullshit so many times m8


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
the whole media was against corbyn actively, tory ads had 88% of them literally lie.


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
and we all know how bernie got ratfucked twice lol


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
we haven't had an alright president since reagan, and yes reagan was alright.


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
reformism is dead, long live revolution


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Everybody before and after him was shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
lived through 08' enough to know where post-covid world is going


[10-Jul-20 11:49 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
reform can still happen.


[10-Jul-20 11:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
i am 100% sure of it, but the revocation of the 2nd would be too fuckin far.


[10-Jul-20 11:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
if capitalism is so good why does it crash every decade or so? gotteem


[10-Jul-20 11:50 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
You wanna know why, shit happens.


[10-Jul-20 11:51 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
the only constant in the world is change.


[10-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Compu#0668
the only constant in the world is my fucking headache


[10-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Reagan sucked and began the decline of the US.


[10-Jul-20 11:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
reagan was alright, not good, not bad, alright, solid 5/10


[10-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Compu#0668
trickle down economics r a scam


[10-Jul-20 11:52 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Reagan started the whole neoliberalism thing, and while it might've been good at first it fucking sucks.


[10-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Marches[45]#0674
He was when Reaganomics took form and infected the economy


[10-Jul-20 11:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
reversing the new deal was a mistake


[10-Jul-20 11:53 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
But everybody else before him was shit, and everybody after him was shit.


[10-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Compu#0668
i'm going to bed


[10-Jul-20 11:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Best president is probably Teddy Roosevelt.


[10-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Washington was the best president


[10-Jul-20 11:54 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Washington is tied for best president


[10-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Compu#0668
pretty sure washington let slavery be a thing that existed


[10-Jul-20 11:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>lets alienate half the fucking country and start a civil war right after we got finished fighting the british lol.


[10-Jul-20 11:55 AM] Compu#0668
i mean if the alternative is slavery existing then yes absolutely


[10-Jul-20 11:55 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Jackson was a true chad and for that deserves the title of most chad.


[10-Jul-20 11:56 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The alternative is tearing apart what he built his entire life.


[10-Jul-20 11:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
I suppose you could consider being genocidal chadly if you think cowards are chads yes


[10-Jul-20 11:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Jackson was a chad.


[10-Jul-20 11:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
He fucking fought pistol duels and beat his would he assassin with a cane.


[10-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Marches[45]#0674
With various bodily infirmities when elected


[10-Jul-20 11:57 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and he fought in battles and won, like new orleans.


[10-Jul-20 11:58 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Got an army of ex-slaves, french pirates and volunteers and won against the british.


[10-Jul-20 11:59 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Holy shit it's fucking 6am gotta go to sleep.


[10-Jul-20 12:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
night nerd


[10-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Can’t fall asleep. Woke up at 8:30 last night.


[10-Jul-20 12:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
oof


[10-Jul-20 12:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's 8:07pm in aussieland, so I be around for a while yet


[10-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Frosku#5874
@Herbie153 v2 I'm very pro-life.


[10-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Tends to be my main agreement with Republicans on social policy.


[10-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I’m pro-life but support abortion for medical reasons and rape victims


[10-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Frosku#5874
But that stems more from religion than politics.


[10-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Frosku#5874
I support abortion for medical reasons, on the fence about rape and incest because the data around those suggest it's not actually helpful and may be harmful to the mother.


[10-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Not because “oops I can’t afford this! I didn’t use a condom!”


[10-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Like, philosophically I support it for rape victims, but scientifically I struggle to think it's actually an answer.


[10-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Rape victims who have abortions have higher rates of suicidality than rape victims who carry to term. That's correlation rather than causation, but it deserves more investigation.


[10-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I don’t support anyone till they go through the justice system or till I see evidence from both sides of the table


[10-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Deleted User_f2Gh575hg24#1788
~~Donald Trump is a nazi~~


[10-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
The district representative that was for my district is a pretty cool guy, he’s in his 80s, has shown up to Memorial Day parties, and such. But he did support abortion till he saw how some of the ways they did it and flipped how he felt about it.


[10-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Trump...is special, the way he speaks is very New York/New Jersey. The sarcasm and bluntness is very much the way it is around here. He is definitely a tad racist but then again, who isn’t? He’s a show man and knows how to put on a good show


[10-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Fun fact: Trump owns John DeLorean’s mansion in Bedminster, NJ. It’s the current site of Trump’s golf course. He wanted to bulldoze it and put up a high rise but the town council prevented him from doing so.


[10-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I honestly don't think Trump is a racist.


[10-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I say tad because he was around during the ‘67 to ‘68 riots


[10-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I disagree with a lot of what Trump says and does, I think he's an authoritarian beyond anything the right has seen in decades.


[10-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Frosku#5874
But I don't think he's ideologically driven by race.


[10-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Yeah. He’s not driven by race


[10-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm from SC, we have real racism. People don't code what they think, they just say it outright.


[10-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Booker on the other hand...that’s a different story


[10-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Frosku#5874
If someone doesn't like another race, they'll just say it. Hispanic people get the worst of it.


[10-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
And yeah, there’s a past no one in my county wants to talk about. It’s the old bund camp which is now a community park


[10-Jul-20 01:18 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Bund aka Nazi. It was raided by the state police and deputized American Legion members once the US declared war. There was a theory that they sabotaged the local gunpowder factory in ‘40 which killed 51 and burned for 3 days.


[10-Jul-20 01:20 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
It had enough dynamite, TNT, and smokeless powder, to register on siesmographs in NYC which is not far


[10-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Wow


[10-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Frosku#5874
In the south you don't get that much Nazism per se, it's mostly neoconfederism.


[10-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Heh, after work I’ll send you a link of my county representative. He did a goofy thing last election cycle


[10-Jul-20 01:25 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/WestVanPolice/status/1280964217172983808?s=19

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[10-Jul-20 01:25 PM] Frosku#5874
I know all about that, I lived in Sanford's district. 😂


[10-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Frosku#5874
The governor who disappeared for 7 days with his mistress.


[10-Jul-20 01:27 PM] Pontology#1010
Canadian police are taking after the British in being batshit


[10-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Pontology#1010
https://twitter.com/mpsregentspark/status/974645778558980096

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[10-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Frosku#5874
😂


[10-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Lexi Fyrestar remember that cops shot people for being on there porch and that the trump administration tear gasses protesters on june 2nd 2020


[10-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[10-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
cops r allowed to shoot violent criminals


[10-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
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[10-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
these people where not violent nor criminals


[10-Jul-20 03:20 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
says who? Fakenews media?


[10-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The reports from people actuly at the protests and the peopls who took a video on there porch


[10-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If i may make a strong suggestion you need to get out of the mindset of media bad. https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw

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Max Derrat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WWrtWvxFw
Selection for Societal Sanity
Special thanks to Kenspiracy and MetalGearSortOf for reviewing my script for me; Hannah and Scott from Honey Badger Radio for offering constructive criticism on the video; as well as Literal Sockpuppet and Captain Manboobs for doing the same.

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[10-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
yeah i get my sources from such ppl too and it definetly not like that, just like the officer who rightfully protected himself and that uncivilized bunch of apes called protesters burned down a restaurant that wasonly close to the place it happened, they destroy the society

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[10-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
u need to see the truth not follow left extremist mindsets


[10-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thing is that all the sourses i use are actualy highly factual in there reporting and do not have extream left mindsets. They are bent a bit to the left but not extreamly. Your in an echo chamber of false "truth" spun by anti sjw people who want you to think the meida is bad. Media fucks up some times but is vasty better then an echo chamber.


[10-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
„bent a bit to the left“ 😹 left extremists r terrorists and the media is mostly infected by those, u can cancel all mainstream media. At least we can agree that we dont agree


[10-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
See that's where your wrong. There are no left extremists in the mainstream. You have been manipulated and lied too by Anti sjw echo chambers.


[10-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
None of my sourses are extreme left or any extreme. They are not free of bias but nothing is.


[10-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
u have been clearly brainwashed sorry

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[10-Jul-20 03:43 PM] LTdata#1304
you both sound like you blindly believe your own pet sources who report exactly what you want to hear


[10-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@LTdata not really. I have my own doubts from sourses and regualy vet them by double checking things.


[10-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Lexi Fyrestar You are a victim of echo chambers and false truth if you think I have been "brainwashed". I highly suggest you watch this video on how echo chambers like the ones you are in are a cancer to democracy.
https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw

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Selection for Societal Sanity
Special thanks to Kenspiracy and MetalGearSortOf for reviewing my script for me; Hannah and Scott from Honey Badger Radio for offering constructive criticism on the video; as well as Literal Sockpuppet and Captain Manboobs for doing the same.

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[10-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
stop pinging me please


[10-Jul-20 03:47 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/07/duterte-congress-allies-order-shut-philippines-abs-cbn-200710043240204.html


[10-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Floor Bored#1593
"You're saying things I don't like so don't talk to me"


[10-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
its called fakenews


[10-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It isn't tho. Fake news as it is used today is a term that Trump uses call everything he doesn't like. If it is critical of him it's automaticly "fake news"

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[10-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
"everything he doesnt like" that sound pretty left extremist to me, he just exposed the scum

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[10-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No he just uses it as a deflection of criticism.


[10-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
"critism" is what u call false information, disinformation, fakesnews, lies, defamation?

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[10-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There is nothing extreme left about saying that instead of "erasing a percentage of the debt in 8 years" he added trillions to it.


[10-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It isn't false information. He just says it is and the echo chambers swallow it with out thinking.


[10-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/04/25/trump-takes-back-claim-he-could-eliminate-national-debt-n2152708

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Donald Trump has made a lot of bold claims on the campaign trail, including that hes going to erase the nations $19 trillion in debt in eight years by cutting better trade deals. The claim, made during an interview with the Washington Post in March, was derided as nonsensical,...
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[10-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-turmoil-or-triumph-donald-trump-stands-alone/2016/04/02/8c0619b6-f8d6-11e5-a3ce-f06b5ba21f33_story.html?postshare=6561459637742585


[10-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/2016.html


[10-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
:facehoof:


[10-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/


[10-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Non of this is "fake news" it is all cold hard facts.


[10-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
lmao


[10-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
says someone who links to washingtonpost


[10-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For an interview with Trump. That directly says what Trump said and is then backed up by Town Hall a right leaning site.


[10-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

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U.S. national debt statistics 1990-2019  | Statista
What was the national debt in 2016? This statistic shows the public debt of the U.S. 1990-2019. In September 2019, the U.S. national debt had risen up to almost 23 trillion U.S. dollars.
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[10-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
2017, 2018 and 2019 all had higher debts dispite no pandemic and Trumps campain promise.


[10-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
at least trump is an actual president, not like those clowns before

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[10-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ high fact reporting with only left center bias

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Washington Post - Media Bias/Fact Check
Overall, we rate The Washington Post Left-Center biased due to story selection that favors the left and factually High due to the use of proper sources
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[10-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
"we rate" .. so media rates media, and anything left is extremist, and the center just those who want to not get involved


[10-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Anything left is extremist" thats an all x are y fallacy


[10-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We rate means we as a group rate


[10-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats it.


[10-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
yeah sure, i wouldnt be surprised if it a group owned by washington post, i honestly spit on anything what media says anymore in our age it is easy to get the real information .. from multiple sources, to filter out any errors


[10-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
with digital age i was hoping for more journalists drop their fakenews shit


[10-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"If it was a group owned by Washington post" https://youtu.be/6P40_kd-mS8

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Do You Have a Single Fact to Back That Up?
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[10-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In rejecting media you have fallen into an echo chamber.


[10-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
says someone who has no single fact :oooh: anything i show would be declared as fake as well as anything u show, there is absolutely no reason for us to talk, i go do useful stuff now

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[10-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What? I have facts that I have been showing you this entre time fron multiple sourses. Unless the US treasury was taken over by the SJW boogie man for the past 4 years everything I have shown you was proven to be true by both left and right leaning sources.


[10-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You desive better then being in an echo chamber of convenient lies that suit your own poltical leaning. Get out of the echo chamber you find yourself in. Its for your own good.

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[10-Jul-20 04:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> at least trump is an actual president, not like those clowns before
@Lexi Fyrestar  hot take: all presidents since FDR have been buffoons to an extent


[10-Jul-20 04:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the elites have an interest in keeping opinions about them simplified to feed into the two party machine


[10-Jul-20 04:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The truth is, it is these elites that have to be eliminated, not Trump or the DNC or anyone lower in the chain of command.


[10-Jul-20 04:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way you seem like a Trump supporter so it's likely nothing i say will convince you on this


[10-Jul-20 04:43 PM] RYDE#8862
Does anyone have already heard that Kanye West is announcing for president?


[10-Jul-20 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[10-Jul-20 04:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Isn't it a bit late for him to register?


[10-Jul-20 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though given his timing, he;s likely doing it for the same reason bloomberg jumped into the primaries


[10-Jul-20 04:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
vote splitting


[10-Jul-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, he clearly just wants the attention


[10-Jul-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kanye has a persona like that


[10-Jul-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you aren't wrong


[10-Jul-20 04:54 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kanye did too much meth now he’s permanently high.


[10-Jul-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he got high on his own supply


[10-Jul-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mods please remove slow mode so we can fastpost


[10-Jul-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks Nebbie


[10-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hah, you think I'm here to help.


[10-Jul-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oof


[10-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
uwu


[10-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
15 seconds


[10-Jul-20 05:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
I might just leave this on forever if it encourages people to actually type up arguments sanely and such.


[10-Jul-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Noooooooooo slow mode


[10-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
:twiface:


[10-Jul-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/506739-committee-votes-to-block-trumps-secret-science-epa-rule

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Committee votes to block Trump's 'secret science' EPA rule
The House Appropriations Committee on Friday voted to block a controversial Trump Administration transparency rule that the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) own independent board of science advisers criticized.
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[10-Jul-20 05:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*Blue Danube song plays*


[10-Jul-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1GcNRFNlE

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2001: A Space Odyssey. The Blue Danube Waltz: spacecraft sequences.
This clip (truncated owing to copyright) is both beautiful and, by the standards of 1968, an astonishing achievement in filmmaking. It is held in the highest esteem even today. The film is particularly remembered for its partial use of Johann Strauss II's best-known waltz, "Th...
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[10-Jul-20 05:22 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Well now we gotta abandon this political chat since we can’t actually talk here anymore.


[10-Jul-20 05:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Blunt https://twitter.com/manhartlogan/status/1281285071819935749?s=21

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This is David, he is a 71 year old Vietnam war veteran. He came into the Chippewa HQ today for some Trump signs and wanted to know how to get involved. This is the first time he has ever been involved with a campaign. Thank you for your service David! #leadright #onwisconsin
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[10-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Sorry bro but this chat is no longer in use.


[10-Jul-20 05:28 PM] illumnious#7938
F


[10-Jul-20 05:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Like bruh waaaa


[10-Jul-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I thank him for his service and wish him all the luck with his terrible choices


[10-Jul-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/goya-faces-boycott-threats-over-ceos-praise-for-trump-2020-7

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[10-Jul-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
Shit


[10-Jul-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
I used to cook with Goya products


[10-Jul-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent had their ginger beer in years


[10-Jul-20 05:35 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[10-Jul-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do they even still make that?


[10-Jul-20 05:36 PM] illumnious#7938
Idk


[10-Jul-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506640-cdc-director-keeping-schools-closed-poses-greater-health-threat-to-children

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CDC director: Keeping schools closed poses greater health threat to...
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield said Thursday that the health risks of keeping schools closed are greater than those of opening them, amid a push by President Trump to have students in classrooms this fall
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[10-Jul-20 05:38 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281556766086574080?s=21

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
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Don’t throw the American story into the river, don’t throw it into the lake. Be proud of it.” @kilmeade @foxandfriends
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[10-Jul-20 05:38 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s a stupid bitch


[10-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Marches[45]#0674
As are his sycophants.


[10-Jul-20 06:01 PM] illumnious#7938
Yes


[10-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ocean is deeper than any river or the lake


[10-Jul-20 06:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[10-Jul-20 06:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Throw senior officer Pike to the pike


[10-Jul-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Jul-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281616586273468416?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...
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[10-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I always saw professors give conservative students the time of day when they brought up their stance but ok


[10-Jul-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my college professors were pretty right leaning


[10-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
This reminds me of feudalism.
_Only those I like will get the education._


[10-Jul-20 06:44 PM] czair#7155
It really depends with the class and the university from my experience. My classes where a mix of right and left but that can change from university to university.


[10-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
the main thing it depends on is your biases.


[10-Jul-20 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i took trade classes, which seem to attract right wing politics like a magnet, but the social classes and continued education seemed to lean left more


[10-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
'your way' you don't really even register, and the 'wrong way' is the Enemy.


[10-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Opponent#3498
if you're balanced enough to recognise both (or more), yay, good for you.


[10-Jul-20 06:49 PM] czair#7155
I had a teacher that was a awesome teacher in our computer class. But he would never give his political stance on things. But he did say don’t go into a place to destroy walls. Just replace them a brick at a time and one day you have a wall you made.


[10-Jul-20 07:53 PM] illumnious#7938
Stfu https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1281637140951109632?s=21

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With Tropical Storm Fay heading towards the Great State of New Hampshire this weekend, we are forced to reschedule our Portsmouth, New Hampshire Rally at the Portsmouth International Airport at Pease. Stay safe, we will be there soon! #MAGA2020
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[10-Jul-20 08:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[10-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@illumnious I wounder if that vet knows he is suporting someone who chickend out of the vietnam war


[10-Jul-20 09:06 PM] illumnious#7938
:9392_party_blob:


[10-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.
View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.
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[10-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Guys it will totaly go away in the warm wethver"- Trump and his suporters


[10-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just wait until everyone is infected


[10-Jul-20 09:12 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck


[10-Jul-20 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I’m not infected?


[10-Jul-20 09:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I’m taking all necessary precautions

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[10-Jul-20 10:36 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I must be protected by dumb luck alone. I am pretty much guaranteed dead if I catch it and plenty of people in my area have caught it. see ambulances driving around at night with the sirens off almost every night.  :scared: don't normally see ambulances around here.


[10-Jul-20 10:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Reginald

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[10-Jul-20 11:14 PM] wren#0114
kek


[10-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/506816-house-democrat-warns-about-inaccurate-polls-trump-voters-fundamentally

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House Democrat warns about 'inaccurate' polls: Trump voters 'fundam...
Democratic Rep.
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[10-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-of-oklahoma-is-indian-land

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Supreme Court Rules That About Half Of Oklahoma Is Native American ...
"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation. ... Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," wrote Justice Gorsuch.
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[10-Jul-20 11:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
Who even believes in polls anymore?
Polls are of the big gay. They're useless to society. Who benefits to know the results of an election before it even happens?


[10-Jul-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
"may destabilize the governance of vast swathes of Oklahoma." :glowing_eyes:


[10-Jul-20 11:51 PM] >That Guy#3386
And why is slowmode on?


[10-Jul-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch once again ruled that treaties actually matter. Like half of Oklahoma is now a reservation.


[10-Jul-20 11:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's a big deal, tbh.


[10-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
>When your favorite justice to undo minority rights actually goes "wait a minute the text says the natives own this shit"


[10-Jul-20 11:53 PM] >That Guy#3386
I wonder how they'll settle disputes with property owners there.


[10-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't mean they *own* the land, just that they hav *jurisdiction*


[10-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
This basically means that the state just lost jurisdiction over most of itself in really complex ways.


[10-Jul-20 11:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
Weird.


[10-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
It pretty much means the state, no matter what shitty bills it passes, can no longer use them to target natives willy nilly.


[10-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking you ready for conservatives to complain that a texualist judge said that actually, those minorities are in charge of themselves?


[11-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just Oklahoma, tho


[11-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dude it's half of Oklahoma


[11-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch basically just took Oklahoma behind the barn and shot it.


[11-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only interesting things about Oklahoma is that they are one of the few states to be solid/red blue


[11-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And the Oklahoma Land Rush took place two days after Adolf Hitler was born.


[11-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conservatives are gonna be calling for impeachment with this. You can't just giv natives control of their land. He now makes all those "activist" judges look *tame*.


[11-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if this somehow got reversed, the very decision is gonna nail in every American textbook that land was stolen illegally **forever onward**.


[11-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans just lost the war.


[11-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might fight for a while, but they just lost the damn cultural war.


[11-Jul-20 12:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Meh, it's just Oklahoma.


[11-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is there a map of what OK looks like without the Creek Reservation?


[11-Jul-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1281705506025943042?s=21

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‘You exploited the Puerto Ricans for centuries under your colonialism and now you wish to bring about more of Donald Trump? Who hates us, despises us, and has treated Puerto Rican people with such cruelty?’ — Fmr. Rep. Gutiérrez calls for Goya boycott after its CEO praised Tr...
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[11-Jul-20 12:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
Maybe I'd be pissed if I lived there, but I don't really care.
It looks like there won't be that big of an uproar until they try to confiscate land or something.


[11-Jul-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14840/production/_113323048_tribal_areas_oklahoma640-nc.png

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[11-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
They basically cut the state in half diagonally.


[11-Jul-20 12:21 AM] wren#0114
so federal congress never dissolved those, are they currently populated/inhabited by those peoples or has everything mingled in some of those areas?


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mingled.


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only 15% are natives.


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] wren#0114
it would be pretty crummy if the court had decided that the promise and law was void


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
But those 15% are now completely exempt from state law.


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] wren#0114
aren't all those in that area?


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] wren#0114
not just native americans?


[11-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing the remaining 85% can do can hurt them.


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] wren#0114
what do you mean?


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oklahoma passes vagrancy law or whatever


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
meant to imprison natives...natives on those shaded areas go "k"


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't be arrested for it, state has no jurisdiction over them.


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] wren#0114
wouldn't that mean that it doesn't apply to anyone in those areas


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] wren#0114
not just native americans


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not exactly.


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tribal stuff cares about ethnicity.


[11-Jul-20 12:23 AM] wren#0114
is it a state citizenship thing?


[11-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you're native american you get protection as part of the tribe.


[11-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a weird compromise to not completely bulldoze native rights.


[11-Jul-20 12:25 AM] wren#0114
weird to me that it's based on territory


[11-Jul-20 12:25 AM] wren#0114
at least on my impression of it


[11-Jul-20 12:25 AM] wren#0114
I don't know much detail


[11-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Territory + ethnicity.


[11-Jul-20 12:25 AM] wren#0114
ye


[11-Jul-20 12:26 AM] wren#0114
time for them to implement localized self-government!


[11-Jul-20 12:26 AM] wren#0114
it depresses me when I read about the current state of many reservations


[11-Jul-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a friend of mine had a question about this that I can;t properly answer
> does that mean we can tax non native residence for tribal use?


[11-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you mean use?


[11-Jul-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think he means taxing non native people to live within the tribal zones


[11-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscogee_(Creek)_Nation

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The Muscogee (Creek) Nation is a federally-recognized Native American tribe based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The nation descends from the historic Creek Confederacy, a large group of indigenous peoples of the Southeastern Woodlands. Official languages include Muscogee, Yuc...
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[11-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the state has jurisdiction over non-natives for the entire state.


[11-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stefanovich-supreme-court-of-canada-genetic-information-1.5643245


[11-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Crow#5457
> Canada's highest court has issued a ruling today upholding a federal law preventing third parties, such as employers and insurance companies, from demanding genetic information from individuals.
> 
> In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court of Canada has decided the Genetic Non-Discrimination Act is a constitutional exercise of federal powers.
> 
> In a curious twist, the federal government itself argued the legislation falls outside of federal jurisdiction.
> 
> In 2017, Liberal backbenchers defied the government to pass the act, Bill S-201 — without the support of cabinet — after it was introduced as a private member's bill by Liberal senator James Cowan, who is now retired.
> 
> "I think it's unusual, to say the least," said Cowan of the government's opposition to the law.


[11-Jul-20 01:28 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm getting the fuck outta here

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[11-Jul-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-facebook-text-message-notifications-suit-2020-7

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[11-Jul-20 01:50 AM] illumnious#7938
:FeelsLifeMan:


[11-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Jul-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Boomer style comics that are correct but still a bit superficial in their critique


[11-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Crow#5457
hey, I'm not gonna complain when people realize how fucked up everything is, even if they don't really know how to express how deep the fucked-upness goes


[11-Jul-20 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I agree


[11-Jul-20 01:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just feel like that sort of anger could use a little more perspective


[11-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-states-of-america-53b20678a80e

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American Passports Are Worthless Now (Map)
Oh the places you can’t go
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[11-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
> It’s not that other nations don’t want to welcome Americans, they just can’t. The point of a passport is that a sovereign power vouches for its bearer, but America can’t vouch for the health of their citizens at all. America’s public health regime is far less trustworthy than Liberia’s (which is actually quite good). Its sovereign is mad.

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[11-Jul-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Liberia had a brutal civil war back in the 90's and it got better? I didn't know that


[11-Jul-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, quite impressive to see African countries lift themselves up in such a short span of time


[11-Jul-20 02:09 AM] StephenFauster#2467
Rhodesians never die.


[11-Jul-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except they did :wheeze:


[11-Jul-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, if there was one country ran more incompetently than Rhodesia... i mean, what came after (Mugabe) wasn't any better, he was also incompetent as fuck, but that had its precedent


[11-Jul-20 02:12 AM] StephenFauster#2467

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[11-Jul-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What was the joke tho


[11-Jul-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I dun get it :isee:


[11-Jul-20 02:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry for assuming if that's the case


[11-Jul-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
> At the same time, you can’t trust Americans. Americans have poor hygiene (low masking rate) and at least 40% of the population can’t be trusted to even believe that COVID-19 exists, let alone to take it seriously. They’re likely to refuse testing, not report symptoms, break quarantine, and generally follow rules. Americans have a toxic combination of ignorance and arrogance that makes them unwelcome travelers.

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[11-Jul-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:depressed:


[11-Jul-20 02:15 AM] Crow#5457
> In the end, Trump did what he said. He built a wall around America and made the world pay for it. He just never told Americans that they’d be stuck inside. Welcome to the Plague States of America. You can check out, but you can never leave.


[11-Jul-20 02:16 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Can Trump get something from the Republican Senate candy desk?


[11-Jul-20 02:20 AM] Xenxc#4012
it was nice for people to have discussions here instead of just "orange man bad" but i guess we're just back to this now


[11-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well maybe the orange man should stop screwing us over.


[11-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get how you could possibly think that baiting with bad faith arguments is somehow better


[11-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Crow#5457
more entertaining, yes, but not very healthy for actual discussion


[11-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Xenxc#4012
it's just 
>post image/article of orange man doing something bad
>"wow orange man bad"
>"yes i agree orange man bad"
>repeat


[11-Jul-20 02:28 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If the orange man wasn't a massive fuck up in almost everyway possble then we would stop saying it


[11-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Sadly he is just that garbage. Like I said back in 2016 he would be horrible and he as been abysmal.


[11-Jul-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/another-hoax-trump-whines-and-rambles-about-supreme-court-and-new-york-in-latest-meeting/

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[11-Jul-20 02:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Man trump loves saying the word hoax over and over again


[11-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The only hunt I’ve take part in is the beast hunts of yharnam


[11-Jul-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's discourse is just nonstop mantraposting


[11-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Did Stone just get pardoned


[11-Jul-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, he got Stoned

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[11-Jul-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-commutes-roger-stone-sentence-longtime-ally-2020-7

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[11-Jul-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> President Donald Trump on Friday signed an "Executive Grant of Clemency" commuting the "unjust" sentence of the former Republican strategist Roger Stone, the White House said.
> 
> "Roger Stone is a victim of the Russia Hoax that the Left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years in an attempt to undermine the Trump Presidency," the statement said. "There was never any collusion between the Trump Campaign, or the Trump Administration, with Russia."


[11-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[11-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Liberal terrorism" :wheeze: the fuck am i reading


[11-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't boycott anything.


[11-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know what these people want for free speech, honestly


[11-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From what I gather, anything that could even slightly challenge a private individual's income/social standing etc should not be allowed.


[11-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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@drmistercody @tedcruz Boycotting a company for not agreeing with you isn't free speech, it's bullying. You know it and I know it.
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[11-Jul-20 02:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Bob Unanue


[11-Jul-20 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Silly name


[11-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Dellboy isn't that bright.


[11-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Dellboy611/status/1281753991957774336

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@squashblossumm @drmistercody @tedcruz When you launch a campaign against any company that dares express a different political view it isn't freedom of speech, it's bullying. It isn't a crime to vote for Trump and you shouldn't have people trying to destroy your business for ...
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[11-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Look at this guy that doesn't think "bullying" is free speech


[11-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Synfag#9241
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THE SINGLE GREATEST MOMENT IN ANIMATION HISTORY
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[11-Jul-20 03:32 AM] jimm#1439
interesting https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/howk8g/despite_the_media_narrative_sweden_has_largely/

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[11-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Synfag#9241
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[11-Jul-20 05:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/world/asia/philippines-congress-media-duterte-abs-cbn.html

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By voting not to renew the franchise of ABS-CBN, lawmakers silenced a major network that had come under fire from President Rodrigo Duterte.
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[11-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/07/10/harpers-open-letter-critical-of-cancel-culture-should-be-applauded-not-canceled/

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The gist of Harper's open letter is sound and necessary in an age when the “cancel culture” reigns, discourse is stifled, and disagreement begets threats.
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[11-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/07/10/fired-for-speaking-truth/

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Fired for Speaking Truth
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[11-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff/index.html

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[11-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
> The top writer for Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for years been using a pseudonym to post bigoted remarks on an online forum that is a hotbed for racist, sexist, and other offensive content, CNN Business learned this week.
> 
> Just this week, the writer, Blake Neff, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" Neff wrote, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no." (The subject line was not censored on the forum.) On June 5, Neff wrote, "Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down." On June 24, Neff commented, "Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep." On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL's Washington Redskins are "white libs and their university-'educated' pets."


[11-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
This cancel culture will collapse eventually after society recognizes their threat and notice they do more harm than good.


[11-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
lol


[11-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I'd not be surprised if he stirred shit only to write about it later.


[11-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
"There has at times also been overlap between some material he posted or saw on the forum and Carlson's show."


[11-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh. Missed that part.


[11-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah. My mistake. They made an analysis and comparison.


[11-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Thought he simply used same email or some silly stuff.


[11-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The way he got doxxed.


[11-Jul-20 06:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Trump just said Biden is a socialist


[11-Jul-20 06:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is it true?


[11-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anything but ultra mega capitalism is socialism to Republicans.


[11-Jul-20 06:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So can I eyewit America becomes a socialism country in my lifetime?


[11-Jul-20 06:23 AM] jlun2#8758
:wheeze:


[11-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is there a good party in usa?


[11-Jul-20 06:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Reset the standard of socialism to let more countries become socialism


[11-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are two parties: "Treat minorities as pawns" and "treat them as fuel"


[11-Jul-20 06:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Any country with national healthcare system is socialism


[11-Jul-20 06:28 AM] jlun2#8758
> fuel
do our robot masters run on them?


[11-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, Republican businesses do.


[11-Jul-20 06:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cancel culture is most of the time aimed at rich people, and rich people should be made uncomfortable in various ways tbqh


[11-Jul-20 06:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf? All rich people should be cancelled. Capitalism sucks balls


[11-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
We have national healthcare but quality is mediocre and it covers essential stuff only. The medical workers are pretty cynical at times.

On the other hand we have private clinics but you risk wasting money while they bamboozle you and find non-existing illnesses.


[11-Jul-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
im just waiting for society to figure out collectively how to social media. too many ppl posting things they regret :facepaw:


[11-Jul-20 06:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just... ignore social media activism. If you wanna do politics, do it in meatspace where it actually matters


[11-Jul-20 06:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 outside :ewstraight:


[11-Jul-20 06:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, outside. 
🔫 NOW


[11-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Meatspace sounds like a dating service


[11-Jul-20 06:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
> There are two parties: "Treat minorities as pawns" and "treat them as fuel"
What does "fuel" mean?


[11-Jul-20 06:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Google tells me it means "faggot"


[11-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Pretending you care about them I guess.


[11-Jul-20 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
@Nebbie republicans use minorities as fuel meaning they use them for cheap labour, then screw them over?


[11-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the whole point of it all.


[11-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fuel as in a resource that drives an engine, Liang.


[11-Jul-20 06:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh


[11-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans basically just want slavery again. They want subservient minorities who provide them wealth via labor, then get no compensation.


[11-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How do you make minorities work tho


[11-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And they are minorities after all


[11-Jul-20 06:36 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
So minorities are oil

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[11-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine usa harvesting minorities all over the world.


[11-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's basically what colonialism was. A million people died in the Phillippines before the US gave up on it, remember.


[11-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even now in the middle east, we just kill people to get votes.


[11-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wait


[11-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
You’re from the east middle


[11-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I was thinking of sexual minorities, but it makes sense too.

In this way, you can make anyone a minority if you don't go overboard like slavers did back in time.


[11-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do Russians in USA count as minorities?


[11-Jul-20 06:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
In China there's a minority called "Russian"


[11-Jul-20 06:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are white and live in the northeast


[11-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How did they end up in China, during the war with Japanese?


[11-Jul-20 06:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk


[11-Jul-20 06:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
We have many strange minorities


[11-Jul-20 06:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some of them don't even have their own characters


[11-Jul-20 06:50 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Some of them can legally have more than one wives, some of them can legally own guns without license


[11-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Huh. Interesting.


[11-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Synfag#9241

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[11-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Synfag#9241

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[11-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Twitch really hates Men™ huh


[11-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Marukomuru#8409
*Lesbian Gamer Bisexual Trans+ (women only)*


[11-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gaymer.


[11-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
i saw the gay™️ streamers too on twitch


[11-Jul-20 08:58 AM] jlun2#8758
https://globalnews.ca/news/7152017/brazil-president-bolsonaro-hydroxychoriquine/
did i time travel? this sounds familar

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[11-Jul-20 09:06 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont remember where the study is that well but wasnt there recently like a 30% better chance of recovery with it? tested against another promising drug that made a 12% better chance of recovery? i maybe wrong but either or best recommendation is that you follow your trusted doctors advisory before taking/doing anything that could effect you negatively


[11-Jul-20 09:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://mobile.twitter.com/nerdjpg/status/1281579521720844288
freedom

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Wow very black mirror dystopian for China to have a social credit score...
Any way now I’m going to go try to find an apartment in the United States with a credit score under 650
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[11-Jul-20 09:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
bruh, there's a tankie in the comments defending china this is hilarious, the meme is both are cringe


[11-Jul-20 12:36 PM] Crow#5457
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[11-Jul-20 01:01 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
why do socialists hate the idea of owning a house and yard?  why should the government control where i live?  i dispise unchecked capitalism and environmental distruction.  but what's wrong with owning a home?


[11-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Treascair#7785
It's the fact that gentrification is usually a way to price locals out of their areas, and bring in rich folks looking for second/vacation homes.


[11-Jul-20 01:09 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i mean if they put restrictions on how much land you can own.  i dont see a problem.  i sure as hell want to live with my family and not worry about bug brother government or a bunch of free loaders threatening our house


[11-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i like the norway model personally


[11-Jul-20 01:16 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
Continuing from Site Discussion:  i sympathize more with people who state how the current system has wronged them. I often see people on Twitter complain about racism without explaining how it has affected them.  That can make their feelings run hollow.  But the people who do express how theyve been wronged really hit me and i sympathize with their plight


[11-Jul-20 01:17 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
Feels like mob mentality to me sometimes


[11-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Treascair#7785
The issue lies in then being told, as someone local, that your voice, your opinion doesn't matter. Because you aren't wealthy enough. If the median family income is 38,000 a year in the area and the neighborhood you want to buy a house and raise a family in is offering nothing but homes that are 800,000+, and demanding 20% downpayment, by the time you'd have that kind of money together, you're out of luck.


[11-Jul-20 01:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And beyond that, businesses in the area become pricier, so even if you did manage to stick around you wouldn't be able to afford to eat at any restaurants or buy clothes, all that stuff gets pushed out. You'd just end up *working* at one of these pricier businesses to make ends meet, and ofc they'll pay close to minimum wage


[11-Jul-20 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, socialists have no problem with personal property, your dwelling, your toothbrush, your nintendo switch, it's only when you own multiple homes, or factories, things you can make money from, that it becomes private property, which is an entirely separate thing, we'd like for everyone to own their /own/ homes, but not more homes just to leach off of poor people with rent so they pay for your house.


[11-Jul-20 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
however, in real life we don't tend to have the power to simply abolish private property, so we tend to be bernie bros or some shit to improve society somewhat, y'know?


[11-Jul-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
we aint coming for your toothbrush, or your home.


[11-Jul-20 02:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
and we certainly don't want anything remotely similar to stalinism and maoism, tankies are cringe, we laugh at them, make fun of them actively.


[11-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Synfag#9241
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[11-Jul-20 02:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
How about Audie Murphy Elementary?


[11-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/XE4BxPwu4zI

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Sabaton - To Hell and Back (Lyrics English & Deutsch)
To Hell and Back is about Audie Murphy (1925--1971), the most decorated American soldier in the entire Second World War. In 1942 he falsified his age to 18 to join the Army and until 1945 he participated in battles on Sicily, at Salerno, Anzio and Rome, and also in southern Fr...
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[11-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Synfag#9241
it's so weird
#buygoya and #goyaway are trending
goya?


[11-Jul-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The CEO(i think) of Goya came out in support of Trump saying that america was blessed for having a president like Trump. Goya is a brand of cooking ingredients.


[11-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And then he said boycotting was "cEnCoRShIp"


[11-Jul-20 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The problem with boycotting in this case is that it just shifts the product demographic because now people will buy the products just to spite the boycott


[11-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The ritch ceo's precious trump loving fee fees can't handle being told that the Trump administration teargassed peaceful protesters on June 2nd 2020 so Trump could virture single for the evangelical vote.


[11-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) yeah but that still isn't censorship ?


[11-Jul-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think it was actually james woods who said it was censorship


[11-Jul-20 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Though i may be wrong


[11-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Marches[45]#0674
https://twitter.com/Dellboy611/status/1281736302392561667?s=20

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@drmistercody @tedcruz Boycotting a company for not agreeing with you isn't free speech, it's bullying. You know it and I know it.
Twitter


[11-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
So do you think the boycott is gonna work?


[11-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Marches[45] Dellboy61 is a silly person with bad takes on things. @Sir Frosty Maybe i guess


[11-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Synfag#9241
> peaceful protesters


[11-Jul-20 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506862-judge-halts-federal-execution-citing-coronavirus-concerns

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506862-judge-halts-federal-execution-citing-coronavirus-concerns
Judge halts federal execution, citing coronavirus concerns
A judge halted the first federal execution set to take place in nearly 20 years over concerns regarding the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/executiondeathpenalty12292016getty.jpg


[11-Jul-20 04:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why?


[11-Jul-20 04:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
Who would be concerned for the health of a dead guy?
I guess there are the prison workers too


[11-Jul-20 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also usually an audience for these things


[11-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as well as a representative of whatever religion you celebrate


[11-Jul-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/506872-authorities-execute-search-warrant-on-st-louis-couple-who-pointed-guns

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Authorities execute search warrant on St. Louis couple who pointed ...
Authorities in St. Louis have executed a search warrant at the home of the couple who made national headlines when they brandished a pair of guns at Black Lives Matter protestors who were marching past their house.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/stlouis_protest_guns_062820upi_lead.jpg


[11-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
That’s over stepping the law. All for a show of force? (Other than the terrible trigger discipline and pointing guns at people they weren’t willing to shoot) but they voted those people in so that’s their fault


[11-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Synfag#9241
they should have let the *peaceful protesters* in their property


[11-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Synfag#9241
ignore the wrecked metal gate


[11-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
You’re right! Let them camp on their lawn, set up a BBQ, and watch some movies.


[11-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Synfag#9241
now they are buried deep in a pile of problems


[11-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
~~nj didn’t have this problem because protesters threatened to beat the shit out of a guy trying to incite violence~~


[11-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Synfag#9241
they're going to be busy for months


[11-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Yep


[11-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Synfag#9241
I won't be surprised if they lose everything


[11-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Synfag#9241
and we'll just laugh


[11-Jul-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/506872-authorities-execute-search-warrant-on-st-louis-couple-who-pointed-guns
@prism stryder(intexda)  damm I supposed to finished up my drawing of that whore

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Authorities execute search warrant on St. Louis couple who pointed ...
Authorities in St. Louis have executed a search warrant at the home of the couple who made national headlines when they brandished a pair of guns at Black Lives Matter protestors who were marching past their house.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/stlouis_protest_guns_062820upi_lead.jpg


[11-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QvPx_kHQmE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QvPx_kHQmE
Heavily-Armed Black Militia Group Marches on Georgia's Stone Mounta...
A heavily-armed black militia group marched through Georgia's Stone Mountain state park on Saturday, demanding the removal of one of the country's largest Confederate monument.

The group, calling itself the 'Not F***in Around Coalition' (NFAC) also challenged far-right groups...
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[11-Jul-20 05:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Now I have to draw the fatty guy too


[11-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Synfag#9241
> *mostly peaceful*


[11-Jul-20 05:04 PM] illumnious#7938
Since when?


[11-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Synfag#9241
since CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, etc. news said so


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Synfag#9241
it's *mostly peaceful*


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
BLM protesters are armed now?


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
They’ve been armed...


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Good.


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They have the right to be armed.


[11-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Well the bad apples that is


[11-Jul-20 05:06 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
And yes I know they do. And I support those rights, but it’s the bad apples I’m worried about


[11-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/14/855918852/heavily-armed-protesters-gather-again-at-michigans-capitol-denouncing-home-order

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Heavily Armed Protesters Gather Again At Michigan Capitol To Decry ...
Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has been threatened online with violence by opponents who have organized another demonstration at the State Capitol on Thursday.
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[11-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remeber when the right wing was ok with this for anti maskers


[11-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
They have every right to do so


[11-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but now that blm is doing it ooohhh it's spoopy 😮


[11-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
And “right wing” you mean conservative. And I never said that. I said the bad apples are the ones I’m worried about, people in BLM, can carry guns with them, it’s their constitutional right.


[11-Jul-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reminder: the march on a gated community was because the mayor of st louis basically put out a hit in video format on people who sent letters calling for police reform


[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2020/06/26/st-louis-mayor-broadcasts-names-addresses-of-citizens-calling-for-police-reform

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St. Louis Mayor Broadcasts Names, Addresses of Citizens Calling for...
Update: Mayor Lyda Krewson has issued an apology. In an effort to be transparent and accessible to the public during the Covid-19 pandemic, for more...
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[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
That’s fucked of the mayor to do that


[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
worryed about bad apples haveing guns? Start with cops and there non leatal guns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] wren#0114
> Whitmer added, "These protests, in a perverse way, make it likelier that we're going to stay in a stay-home posture."


[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the couple with the guns were never in danger


[11-Jul-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were marching to the mayor's house


[11-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Synfag#9241
> the couple with the guns were never in danger

well, it's because they took out their guns


[11-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Synfag#9241
It would have been a different story if they didn't


[11-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They where never in danger even without the guns.


[11-Jul-20 05:12 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
After what happened to the rest of the city, you never know. Plus didn’t the leader of the protest admit on national TV that they did in fact break down the gate and tresspsss? Thus admitting to a crime?


[11-Jul-20 05:12 PM] Synfag#9241
it's not a crime anymore
because #BlackLivesMatter


[11-Jul-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I havent seen reports of this but if they did, then alright


[11-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Synfag#9241
at this rate, they now have more freedom than the average american citizen


[11-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Now, not all BLM protesters are bad people, they want to see change in our cities and are largely peaceful. And I respect them for that


[11-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Synfag#9241
just hold up the banner
and even the cops would kneel before you


[11-Jul-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know because trump supporters with rifles marching into a state capitol had far less rights


[11-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Synfag#9241
> *largely peaceful*


[11-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know what else was a crime? The murder of George Floyd, the assult by cops on people standing on there porch, the trump admistaton and the cops who asslulted people in laffit square


[11-Jul-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Beyond the gate they didn;t actually assualt anyone and largely were marching to demand the mayor resign after her head hunting video went viral


[11-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Trump administration? What do they have to do with the police? That was a city police department, thus being a City Council problem


[11-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Nope. It was the fed cops who where teargasing prosters. not the city cops. city cops are better then this.


[11-Jul-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was 3 factions actually, the city police, the federal police, and prison guards


[11-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Feds? City cops have access to that stuff too.


[11-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Now you’re talking about the Guard?


[11-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Right but it was the feds who did it not the city cops. https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
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[11-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
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[11-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Synfag#9241
we've been through this so many times
what happened to George Floyd is horrible
is a crime
and eventually we may see the ex-cop
6 feet under or in an Urn

but that doesn't mean BLM is a get-away-scott-free card


[11-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Oh that, eh, they did torch a historic church and should’ve been dispersed anyways. I don’t agree with the picture either


[11-Jul-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesn;t give anyone a get away scott free card, though labeling them all terrorists isnt accurate either


[11-Jul-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the people who torched the church also werent the same people who were marching that day


[11-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>they did torch a historic church    there is no proof they did that, it was an eleactucal fire the day before.


[11-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I know, as I said, bad apples in the bunch


[11-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>should’ve been dispersed anyways  they where protesting before curfiew and had the right to protest


[11-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Synfag#9241
> it doesn;t give anyone a get away scott free card, though labeling them all terrorists isnt accurate either

in that case
then stop calling everybody not leftist *Racists/Nazis/White Supremacists*


[11-Jul-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf, this whole "arrest and fire offenders" approach by the authorities is a tactic; it attempts to placate the movement through a number band-aids in order to distract it from focusing on meaningful reform


[11-Jul-20 05:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>but that doesn't mean BLM is a get-away-scott-free card
No one was saying it is.


[11-Jul-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The goal should be police reform, not merely purging the elements that proved themselves bad


[11-Jul-20 05:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>then also stop calling everybody not leftist a Nazi  no one was doing this


[11-Jul-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nazi party is a fraction of the right, not the whole of it


[11-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Lofty Withers#9719
both, everyone.


[11-Jul-20 05:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s more of a minority with a very loud voice


[11-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Frosku#5874
There are about 50 Nazis in the USA right now. Please stop giving them credit.


[11-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie reading the relevations of the newboi in 'pegasite' now, I get to appreciate  you (and Crow, and Aaron, and even TSP as far as his perfomance here goes) more and more tbh.


[11-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eh, i'd say there would be atlest 22,000 in actual neo nazi groups irl rn. but still no one here was saying that conservives = nazis


[11-Jul-20 05:26 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm pretty well-travelled politically, I've met more people who want to convince me the Earth is flat or that Bill Gates is an ancient lizard than supporters of National Socialism.


[11-Jul-20 05:26 PM] Opponent#3498
when you say something at least it's clear you gave it some rational thought, it's not pure emotion dump.


[11-Jul-20 05:26 PM] Frosku#5874
22,000 including all white nationalists maybe. Still a political irrelevance. Still probably outnumbered by flat Earthers.


[11-Jul-20 05:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
agreed.


[11-Jul-20 05:27 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Do you happen to have the fire investigation report for the church by chance?


[11-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I’m just interested in what it says, and after reading that it could’ve started in the basement, I’m just looking to see if there’s more into the basement aspect of it.


[11-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"and the church was briefly in danger on Sunday after a fire started in the church basement."https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials

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Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo...
After U.S. Park Police and National Guard troops pushed demonstrators out of Lafayette Park, President Trump walked from the White House to St. John's Church where he posed for pictures with a Bible.
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[11-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If the protesters where outside on sunday, and the fire started in the basement and was minor for a fire, it was most likly a electracal fire


[11-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Also, it’s great to have a conversation with people who are civil about this stuff instead of calling me a ‘boot licker.” 
I’ll look at it now thank you


[11-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
Well paint me with Dutch Boy, I guess I was wrong. Thank you for informing about that.


[11-Jul-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is super factionalized right now and it's easy to lose track of the chaos and just assign it all to one group of people


[11-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Np. I allways go in for these debates civlay.


[11-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
I do enjoy listening to others and learning more about things.


[11-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
At first i was abit stand off ish. But then I kinda got into the flow of it and relaxed


[11-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Herbie153 v2#9803
:headpat:


[11-Jul-20 05:39 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/DSAEastBay/status/1280205705316667392

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https://twitter.com/DSAEastBay/status/1280205705316667392
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These workers have been denied paid sick leave and hazard pay. Dozens have tested positive for COVID including family members. 

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[11-Jul-20 05:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope that goes well for them


[11-Jul-20 06:02 PM] BCS#4111
https://is2.4chan.org/mlp/1594464081958.jpg i can't believe people vandalized a communism memorial

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[11-Jul-20 06:03 PM] BCS#4111
some people are really dumb. does that top pic say "chan" like 4chan? ugh. i bet it does


[11-Jul-20 06:11 PM] wren#0114
awfully cropped, might it have been part of a message? the word "change"?


[11-Jul-20 06:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like either they ran out of paint by the N or it was partially removed.


[11-Jul-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or they did not finish it on purpose.


[11-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe they were spraying POGCHAMP


[11-Jul-20 06:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
Anybody have the pony version of this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378658197638086656/731544656784916480/1523304524927.jpg

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twismug dab 

[11-Jul-20 06:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Nope


[11-Jul-20 06:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What " guvna' " means btw?


[11-Jul-20 06:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
As in the Cockney phrase "hello, governor".


[11-Jul-20 06:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh. Governer. Thanks.


[11-Jul-20 06:36 PM] BCS#4111
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/07/american-boogaloo-meme-or-terrorist-movement/613843/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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The Boogaloo Tipping Point
What happens when a meme becomes a terrorist movement?
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/7dErQEJVAJ2hociNYjRHGpqnQwQ=/0x11:3994x2091/960x500/media/img/mt/2020/07/GettyImages_1211395477/original.jpg


[11-Jul-20 06:36 PM] >That Guy#3386
There was a pony version somewhere with Anon. I can't find it


[11-Jul-20 06:37 PM] BCS#4111
here's a movement that *is* connected to 4chan, by everyone's favorite purveyor, the atlantic. they also wrote about nazis on derpibooru and exaggerated the problem. this one seems more limited though


[11-Jul-20 06:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
Since when are "boogaloo" memers actual terrorists?


[11-Jul-20 06:37 PM] BCS#4111
read the article and you will find out more. i read it already, i linked it here because it's interesting


[11-Jul-20 06:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
They never do anything. They only fantasize about someday doing something when "it" happens.


[11-Jul-20 06:37 PM] BCS#4111
The boogaloo movement originally grew from the weapons discussion section (“/k/”) of the anarchic anonymous message board 4chan over the past several years. By 2019, its culture had disseminated across social media into a mix of online groups and chat servers where users shared libertarian political memes. In the past six months, this all began to manifest in real life, as users from the groups emerged at protests in what became their signature uniform: aloha shirts and combat gear.


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] BCS#4111
>libertarian terrorists now


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
LARPing, that's what it is


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] BCS#4111
I thought libertarianism was the one least likely to attack others


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
They aren't terrorists because they haven't killed anyone.
They're just cringe.


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not "terrorism" unless they actively start planning mass attacks and shooting people, these ones seem too cowardly to face the brunt of the law if they do commit murder


[11-Jul-20 06:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[11-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BCS#4111
that one guy did kill some people


[11-Jul-20 06:39 PM] wren#0114
boogaloos are glowies honeypotting larpers


[11-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BCS#4111
there is also the /pol/ shooter that was radicalized on /pol/ and shot up the synagogue


[11-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, these are terrorists


[11-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BCS#4111
4chan does want to deny these connections but they exist and are documented. smarter people don't fall for it but idiots do


[11-Jul-20 06:40 PM] wren#0114
>4chan
you mean /pol/


[11-Jul-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, that's why I steer clear of boogaloo groups, despite my interest in gun rights. Half of them are unironic glowfags.


[11-Jul-20 06:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All LARPing and marching is only effective as an intimidation display


[11-Jul-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
Intimidating who though?


[11-Jul-20 06:40 PM] BCS#4111
what's a glowfag?


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
"Glow in the dark" = CIA honeypot


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There are more effective ways to achieve political gains through disobedience


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BCS#4111
oh, a glowie? i just recently found out what that means. FBI, right?


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] wren#0114
three letter agency pretending to be a normal user


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
or FBI, in this case


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BCS#4111
oh, I see


[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] wren#0114

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[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BCS#4111
funny story from NSFW artist's club, the FBI don't clearly know what usernames are or IP addresses and they work in the cyber crime division

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[11-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BCS#4111
they were investing a pedophile or two from ponysquare


[11-Jul-20 06:42 PM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[11-Jul-20 06:42 PM] wren#0114
I doubt that


[11-Jul-20 06:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
This is where our taxpayer dollars go.


[11-Jul-20 06:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminds me of that time some dude jokingly replied to an FBI post about being the "CEO of antifa" and some suspicious dude comes up to him asking if he wants to be an informant


[11-Jul-20 06:42 PM] BCS#4111
i like this server, it's just the right mix of active without being overwhelming


[11-Jul-20 06:43 PM] BCS#4111
yes, I read that article too. sarcasm seems lost on our police apparently. can you believe they took it seriously?


[11-Jul-20 06:43 PM] BCS#4111
sometimes i wonder if i'll run afoul of the FBI but apparently not thus far


[11-Jul-20 06:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://theintercept.com/2020/06/09/antifa-fbi-tweet/

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He Tweeted That He Was the Leader of Antifa. Then the FBI Asked Him...
The Charlotte, North Carolina, man tweeted in protest because he thought the Trump administration’s designation of antifa as a terror group was absurd.
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[11-Jul-20 06:44 PM] BCS#4111
well, not until they consider simulated fillies and 3d anime girls to be real protected citizens with human rights


[11-Jul-20 06:44 PM] BCS#4111
a lot of people try to disingenuously conflate the two things


[11-Jul-20 06:44 PM] wren#0114

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[11-Jul-20 06:44 PM] BCS#4111
if i couldn't draw, i'm pretty sure my mental defect would worsen


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can't draw for shit


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] BCS#4111
too bad we don't have a writing channel


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
I really think it's dumb to try to call "boogaloo boys" a terrorist group when none of them have done jack shit.


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I can’t draw stockmen without fucking up


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that that's a hindrance to my happiness chemicals tho


[11-Jul-20 06:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
I haven't drawn in years, and never learned to draw with a computer...


[11-Jul-20 06:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Used to be half-decent though.


[11-Jul-20 06:46 PM] BCS#4111
i'm waiting for my sister to wake up so i can get my drawing tablet


[11-Jul-20 06:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
Found it:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358441928209203201/731552201356345415/1688561.png

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[11-Jul-20 06:49 PM] >That Guy#3386
Basically the plot of the movie.


[11-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BCS#4111
I wish Twitter would stop recommending political shit to me


[11-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BCS#4111
it's all over, you like one "FUCK NAZIs" tweet and the algorithm shits the bed. It used to give me cute ponies and funny memes


[11-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BCS#4111
I think it's interesting that comic has a blonde zebra. that's different


[11-Jul-20 07:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/pwSFQ4A

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In Memoriam by Ryan Estrada and Kim Hyun Sook
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[11-Jul-20 07:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Jul-20 07:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
_**BONK**_


[11-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1281607725240193026

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Julián Castro (@JulianCastro)
https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1281607725240193026
This new ad from @JoeBiden is incredible. It speaks powerfully to our common hopes for our families and our country. https://t.co/ZrZZOhuNrz
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[11-Jul-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53367432

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French bus driver dies after 'mask attack'
The driver in south-western France was set upon by people who reportedly refused to wear face masks.
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[11-Jul-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sometimes I wonder how much of those likes are bots and real people


[11-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
With that video effect I expected it to transition to nuclear fallout somehow.


[11-Jul-20 11:15 PM] jlun2#8758
@Stoopedhooy the real life robot uprising is really lackluster tbh
what people expected: 👨 🔫 🤖 
what we got instead: 👨 🥊 👨            💻 🤖


[11-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah, yeah
Bots
Info warfare


[11-Jul-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506918-trump-wears-mask-during-visit-to-walter-reed

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Trump wears mask during visit to Walter Reed
President Trump wore a mask during his visit to Walter Reed hospital on Saturday, marking the first time he has done so in front of cameras.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_07112020_gettyimages.jpg


[12-Jul-20 12:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/RepJeffDuncan/status/1281922647207665664

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Great news! @realDonaldTrump has DENIED Minnesota's disaster request to repair half a billion dollars in damage from the riots. Governors and Mayors who ordered police to stand down and watch their cities burn shouldn't get a penny in taxpayer aid! https://t.co/8WAgm7AFa7
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[12-Jul-20 12:04 AM] jlun2#8758
> Great news
cheering boomer noises


[12-Jul-20 12:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
A shame about the innocent shopkeepers who had to suffer for their local government's bullshit though.


[12-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah


[12-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
But it's not like they would get the aid anyway. It would go to the government buildings.


[12-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
the same government that ordered police to stand down and let their police buildings and affordable housing units burn.


[12-Jul-20 01:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hopefully the local politicians will face some political backlash.


[12-Jul-20 01:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>big city politicians getting voted out
>ever


[12-Jul-20 02:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's just a hope.


[12-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jul-20 02:28 AM] wren#0114
:sad:


[12-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p00fxoDpaIo

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The Lincoln Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p00fxoDpaIo
Crooks
Trump’s campaign manager is a felon.
His deputy campaign manager is a felon.
His national security advisor is a felon.
His foreign policy advisor is a felon.
His personal lawyer is a felon.
His long time advisor is a felon.

It’s not a campaign, it’s a criminal enterprise.
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[12-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Synfag#9241

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[12-Jul-20 02:48 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282113922523435008

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2016? HERE WE GO AGAIN!
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[12-Jul-20 02:48 AM] illumnious#7938
dammmmmmmm

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[12-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Odds as of today

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[12-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:op:worth


[12-Jul-20 04:03 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Rice for Vice


[12-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rice would be okay.


[12-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/the-us-army-is-banning-twitch-users-for-mentioning/1100-6479563/

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[12-Jul-20 04:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/boring_cactus/status/1278513175470596098?s=20

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💤🌵🤖aspiring wife ≈girl (@boring_cactus)
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us army esports twitch chat ban speedrun https://t.co/qYNgMSOge5
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[12-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Warcrimes


[12-Jul-20 04:17 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://twitter.com/kirnixis/status/1278875761009664001?s=20

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i used to be only banned from joining the military for being trans... but now im also banned from the us army esports twitch. my secret? i typed "google operation ranch hand it's a cool new game by nintendo". every ban amplifies the power of the cultural marxist agenda 10x OO...
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[12-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

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United States war crimes
United States war crimes are the violations of the laws and customs of war of which the United States Armed Forces has committed against signatories after the signing of the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907. These have included the summary execution of captured enemy combata...


[12-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://imgflip.com/i/47zos2

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Usa picardia
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[12-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/01/world/3-dead-marines-and-a-secret-of-wartime-okinawa.html

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3 Dead Marines and a Secret of Wartime Okinawa
Some elderly Okinawans, who grew up near where remains of three American marines missing since near end of World War II were found, say Katsuyama villagers ambushed and killed men, thinking they were three black marines who villagers believed had repeatedly come to village to ...
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[12-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh but silly me nyt bad beacuse sjw bad Media bad trump good usa good usa only do good not do bad


[12-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Xenxc#4012
oh god he's having a stroke call 911


[12-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[12-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1282091215463354373

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Incredibly depressing and super important
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[12-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[12-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Skydreams#1312
:s_sky_hmm:


[12-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Honahue#0656
I figured his mask would look more like this

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[12-Jul-20 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay well the brain slugs work, that much is clear, but maybe we shouldn't have given the prime brain slug a brain slug of his own


[12-Jul-20 06:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, Trump's cult of personality is incredible. Imagine what could've happened if he were an actually decent leader who made good decisions


[12-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Skydreams#1312
Decent leaders who make good decisions tend not to develop personality cults it seems like


[12-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
in a lot of situations the best thing is when you never notice the organization behind it, you don't think about your water and sewer service till it fucks up,


[12-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
Official US Army E-sports Discord. Oh my stars it just sunk in.


[12-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
not even the memes predicted this I think.


[12-Jul-20 06:30 AM] jlun2#8758
IRL FPS


[12-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Xenxc#4012
wearing a mask wouldn't be that much of a problem if it weren't for working in 100+ degree weather


[12-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Xenxc#4012
i'm fine with wearing it inside though, and that's where people usually are in 100+ degree weather


[12-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
no, decent leaders who make good decisions tend to get killed by the government


[12-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
because decent leaders who make good decisions are a threat to the US government


[12-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Skydreams#1312
oof


[12-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean look at Brazil’s leader, he’s shit and America hasn’t peed his pants yet.


[12-Jul-20 07:17 AM] illumnious#7938
> I figured his mask would look more like this
@Honahue I was expected the same thing lol


[12-Jul-20 07:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
>Biden might pick Harris.
The parents of mass incarnceration on the same ticket. Great.


[12-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He also may pick Duckworth just to make the right seethe


[12-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And it's more of a palatable pick to progressives


[12-Jul-20 07:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ugh, these are our choices...


[12-Jul-20 07:35 AM] JC Denton#7076

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[12-Jul-20 07:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Jul-20 07:43 AM] wren#0114
with how 2020 is going, chtulhu arriving would make people rejoice more than tremble


[12-Jul-20 07:46 AM] RYDE#8862
I hate to say it but I'd vote for Mayor Mare.


[12-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Crow#5457
tbh the rest of the world currently views the US as cthulhu


[12-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Treascair#7785
> Shit, *Discord and Trixie* would be a more stable choice.


[12-Jul-20 08:42 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone should let that dog mayor run for president.


[12-Jul-20 08:53 AM] wren#0114
yes


[12-Jul-20 09:04 AM] jlun2#8758
can we pls have less senile folks
not just old ppl who've only seen internet near the end of their lives


[12-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Treascair#7785
depressingly, we have folks like AOC as a US Rep, and it's either "You don't know what you're talking about, go back to mixing drinks, you socialist" or "You don't have any experience, the *adults* are talking, little girl" when it comes to her... me? her politics might not be quite my flavor, but she's at least in the same fucking ballpark as most of our generation.


[12-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489563832222482462/731755115710775306/Cursed_millitary.mp4

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[12-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Skydreams#1312
Conservatives: pull yourself up by your bootstraps
AOC: k
Conservatives: no not like that


[12-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Treascair#7785
Does seem like that a good deal of the time.  Up to and including memory holing anything that goes against their narrative.  Got an older co-worker fired for going off on me years ago in full view of my boss when I dared to call the old bastard on his shit with things he couldn't refute.


[12-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jul-20 12:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jul-20 12:15 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_Ue3t17l0

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The Citizen Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_Ue3t17l0
[YTP] Good Old P.U.
A nice fireside chat with Dennis and his Prager pals.



Also, no, I'm not dead. OR AM I?????
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[12-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Pontology#1010
How is everything – or anything – about that sentence wrong?


[12-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Pontology#1010
Only way to prevent school shooters with confidence is TSA-like checks entering and exiting schools, like Israel does in its schools.

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[12-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or maybe do not make children so desperate.

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[12-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
That they take guns in their hands and shoot up own classmates.


[12-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Pontology#1010
:fillyconfused:


[12-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Pontology#1010
Just... what?


[12-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Pontology#1010
I've read the manifestos of school shooters who wrote them


[12-Jul-20 02:48 PM] ononim#8141

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[12-Jul-20 02:48 PM] ononim#8141
:ewstraight:


[12-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Pontology#1010
It's a confluence of psychopathy, typically some incel-like ideology, angst and anger and hate, and copycat'ing previous ones.


[12-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Pontology#1010
iirc almost all were raised by single mothers, and there are other correlations.


[12-Jul-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Speaking from experience here, while i've never been driven far enough to shoot up my schools, the mental healthcare in schools is trash. The system is built around avoiding lawsuits instead of helping children with their problems. If a child is being bullied they tend to get punished with the bully due to a zero tolerance policy, and children tend to fall into anger and depression, which in turn feeds toxic coping mechanisms of violence possibly with really bad parents.


[12-Jul-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now mix that with guns and you have a recipe for turning that violent coping mechanism into a planned homicide!


[12-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Pontology#1010
Bullying is an unbelievably weak excuse. Several had friends.

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[12-Jul-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bullying was an example


[12-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Pontology#1010
And bullying used to be 100x worse, real physical damage, coming home with bruises, wedgies, common.


[12-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim one thing missing is the outer ring around the symbols :D


[12-Jul-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
social outcasting, and rejection are other examples, teachers abusing students as well


[12-Jul-20 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bullying still has physical damage


[12-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Pontology#1010
"Mass murderers are victims of social conditions" is awful and wrong.


[12-Jul-20 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you think the beatings have stopped, you are very wrong


[12-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Pontology#1010
I think the death of Christian culture has a lot to do with it.

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[12-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Pontology#1010
School shooters never really existed before the 70's.


[12-Jul-20 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"People just need more jesus!"


[12-Jul-20 02:53 PM] Pontology#1010
Used to be normal to bring your gun to school.


[12-Jul-20 02:54 PM] Pontology#1010
It's not funny. Christianity – religion generally – does a lot to counter the nihilism behind angsty mass murder.


[12-Jul-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess if you consider 'death of Christian culture' both a forgone thing and a _bad_ thing, there's not much to be discussed


[12-Jul-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Christianity also singles people out and tells them they're going to hell


[12-Jul-20 02:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, if they do things like – you know – commit mass murder.


[12-Jul-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or be gay, or trans


[12-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Pontology#1010
No, I don't think any Christian believes that.


[12-Jul-20 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you've never met a christian


[12-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Pontology#1010
Many believe gay sex is sinful, but not being gay.


[12-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Regardless of that, I think my point stands. If you want atheist irreligion, you're going to have to take the bad with the good, including nihilistic mass murder.


[12-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Pontology#1010
Again, school shooters only really began in the 70's.


[12-Jul-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000)

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List of school shootings in the United States (before 2000)
This article lists incidents in which a firearm was discharged at a school infrastructure or campus in the United States prior to 2000, including incidents of shootings on a school bus. This list contains school shooting incidents that occurred on the campuses of K-12 public s...


[12-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, that's my source.


[12-Jul-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
school shootings date back to the 1800's


[12-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Pontology#1010
No, you have to read the descriptions and death counts. Before the 60's/70's, it was specific individual killings, not mass murder.


[12-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Pontology#1010
"I am mad at this particular person to the point of wanting to kill specifically him", not "I am going to randomly kill as many people as I can"


[12-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Pontology#1010
First real school shooting in that sense was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

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[12-Jul-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you mean back when christianity was alive and well in america?


[12-Jul-20 03:00 PM] Pontology#1010
That incident was a fluke, he had a brain tumor that made him irrational and violent, but it started the trend.


[12-Jul-20 03:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the 70's when christianity ruled telivision?


[12-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Pontology#1010
70's when hippie culture was alive and well, drugs and lsd and "free love"


[12-Jul-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hippies were anti war, not athiest


[12-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Pontology#1010
Which is what the kids were doing


[12-Jul-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hippies arent a religion


[12-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
they're **HERETICS**


[12-Jul-20 03:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I think the death of Christian culture has a lot to do with it.
@Pontology  it is not the death of old Christian culture that has to do with that. Old American Christian culture has a lot to do with control -- of bodies, of thoughts, of money, of obedience, among a plethora of other things. What is to blame for such anomalies is the utter incompetence of this sort of mentality to adapt to an expanding capitalist-individualist hegemony


[12-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Pontology#1010
>capitalism is to blame for school shooters


[12-Jul-20 03:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not just it, but a variety of other factors too


[12-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Pontology#1010
I rate this take commie/10


[12-Jul-20 03:05 PM] Pontology#1010
You might be getting at the "alienation", if I recall what marx said


[12-Jul-20 03:05 PM] Pontology#1010
It has a grain of truth to it, and is in the same vein as what I was saying. Death of culture and community.


[12-Jul-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"praise jesus" isnt an effective method of controlling emotions, when it's the only solution you have


[12-Jul-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially when those telling you jesus is your salvation are ignoring every problem you have and just telling you to pray


[12-Jul-20 03:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Culture is a byproduct of relations of material production


[12-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean it's fair enough, your life will be short and ugly like a ladder in a henhouse, but then you get salvation so it doesn't matter.


[12-Jul-20 03:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You cannot change a culture artificially through ideology alone imo -- what is also needed is a change in relations of material ownership and production


[12-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
it _works_. I know it does, the non-christian variation of it works for me.


[12-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Crow#5457
do you have any evidence that atheism causes school shootings?


[12-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Pontology#1010
The Buddhists got it right that suffering is the fundamental truth of existence. It's about coping with it effectively.


[12-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
christianity isn't the only option for that though, and far from the least toxic.


[12-Jul-20 03:13 PM] Crow#5457
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[12-Jul-20 03:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Resurrect horse riding for transportation tbh


[12-Jul-20 03:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Much cooler than cars


[12-Jul-20 03:14 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be sick, not gonna lie.


[12-Jul-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-considering-selling-puerto-rico-ex-dhs-chief-says-the-president-asked-can-we-sell-the-island/

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Trump considered selling Puerto Rico: Ex-DHS chief
President Donald Trump’s former acting Secretary of Homeland Security says the leader of the free world considered selling Puerto Rico. Elaine Duke, who describes herself as a lifelong Republican, spoke with The New York Times in a “wide-ranging interview” about her 14 months ...
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[12-Jul-20 03:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Pontology#1010
Buy greenland, sell puerto rico. I approve.


[12-Jul-20 03:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Danish Puerto Rico


[12-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
so how would that even work now? Can you even do it?


[12-Jul-20 03:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically that wouldn't be too far off -- the Virgin Islands were Danish once, and they're close to PR


[12-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah except that the only buyer would probably be China, as usual :D


[12-Jul-20 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the appropriate actions to a hurricane are to nuke it, then buy greenland and sell puerto rico. It's just sensible logic

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[12-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506934-trump-defends-golfing-its-my-exercise

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Trump defends golf outings: It's my 'exercise'
President Trump defended his golfing in a Sunday morning tweet, calling the activity his “‘exercise.’”
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[12-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
related to how someone above did not believe christians say gays belong to hell

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[12-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.bellmortuary.com/obituary/Jessica-Doty-Whitaker

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[12-Jul-20 04:57 PM] Synfag#9241
white woman uses head and body to stop THREE mostly peaceful bullets


[12-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Synfag#9241
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[12-Jul-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-new-hampshire-rally-cancelled-over-attendance-fears-report-2020-7

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Trump's New Hampshire rally was canceled because of low attendance ...
Trump aides blamed a forecasted thunderstorm in the area and "safety reasons" for the decision. Even the Republican governor was planning to skip it.
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[12-Jul-20 06:14 PM] illumnious#7938
I need some bleach https://twitter.com/blessusa45/status/1226600174119784451?s=21

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[12-Jul-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tremendous
Rump
Unf
Must
Put dick inside

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[12-Jul-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/506960-graham-says-he-will-call-mueller-to-testify-before-senate-panel-about-russia

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Graham says he will call Mueller to testify before Senate panel abo...
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said on Sunday that he will agree to a Democratic request to have former special counsel Robert Mueller testify about his investigation into Russian election meddling and the Trump campaign.
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[12-Jul-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yay the same questions asked again!


[12-Jul-20 06:42 PM] illumnious#7938
Florida shatters coronavirus records with almost 15,300 new cases https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-shatters-coronavirus-records-almost-15-300-new-cases-n1233609

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Florida shatters coronavirus records with almost 15,300 new cases
The staggering single-day number comes as Florida is finding itself at the center of the country's new surge, with cases and deaths continuing to rise.
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[12-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
number big life good.


[12-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Where do they find them new people


[12-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
how come they are not all infected by now


[12-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:ponythinking:


[12-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Heckin love this state


[12-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Florida has many people.


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Skydreams#1312
you're in FL, raptor?


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucking hate my state


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It has 21.5 mil people


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So still 21mil left to infect


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Luckily Raptors don't get Coronavirus.


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
Nooooo


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Raptorshy must have lot of food after this.


[12-Jul-20 08:03 PM] illumnious#7938
I have family living there dammit


[12-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Do we have a stat for how many infect total in FL?


[12-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Skydreams#1312
no because the state government is trying to suppress the numbers to promote tourism


[12-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Skydreams#1312
:z_sky_facehoof:


[12-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
I still want to see a measure associating political alignment to infection rate because that would be _incredibly_ interesting to ee.

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[12-Jul-20 08:05 PM] illumnious#7938
:grumphorse:


[12-Jul-20 08:05 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jul-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
What i that yellow speck in the middle of Florida?


[12-Jul-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
swamp


[12-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
Governors is okay.


[12-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
But I actually want to see based on which party the people identify with.


[12-Jul-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jul-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
they don't collect such information


[12-Jul-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
it would be unethical


[12-Jul-20 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not a fan of how discord is hiding the links I posted


[12-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah that's annoying.


[12-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
That's a shame, because it would be incredibly enlightening.


[12-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Cozy Glow#3780
My theory is that more than half of it is republicans by simple virtue of the way they've been conditioned not to trust science, to ignore polls, and to ignore all common sense judgement that goes against their ideas of "amurikan freedom!"


[12-Jul-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
land of the free, home of the dom


[12-Jul-20 08:24 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Skydreams#1312
I'll take 'things that didn't happen' for $200


[12-Jul-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
and then everyone clapped


[12-Jul-20 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IMO this indeed happened and the doctors were being sarcastic


[12-Jul-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outbreaks-us-marine-bases-in-japan-anger-authorities-2020-7

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[12-Jul-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
> There have been 0 new COVID cases in Okinawa since April, US military numbers have never been included in this figure because the US military refuses to disclose COVID information.
> New reports show 60+ US military infections this week. This information was leaked to the press and not disclosed voluntarily. It is suspected that this sudden spike is related to several large July 4th parties last week and military related personnel breaking their mandatory two-week quarantine.
> It is currently impossible to perform tracing, quarantining, and monitoring for Japanese citizens who have come into contact with infected US personnel. This is because the US refuses to disclose the necessary information to local health officials.
> Japan currently bans Americans and other individuals from high risk countries from flying into Japan to avoid COVID spread, but this restriction does not apply to US military and affiliated personnel.
> US military officials have repeatedly assured the public that all new arrivals to Okinawa are subject to their own thorough quarantine procedures. However, it was leaked recently that many of these quarantines were held at rented apartments or hotels in local communities that were never informed that buildings in their neighborhoods were being used as COVID quarantine centers.


[12-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Skydreams#1312

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[12-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it probably was.


[12-Jul-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/12/trump-border-wall-make-me-look-bad-357706

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[12-Jul-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
"It was only done to make me look bad"


[12-Jul-20 08:36 PM] byte[]#2610
You do that pretty well on your own, bud, don't need the media to do it for you


[12-Jul-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you want to build a wall but not maintain it


[12-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Skydreams#1312
:s_sky_giggle:


[12-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Skydreams#1312
it is yooge and beautiful.


[12-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Skydreams#1312
:twigeyeroll:


[12-Jul-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/trump-allegedly-suggested-selling-puerto-rico-as-hurricane-maria-approached/

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Trump allegedly suggested selling Puerto Rico as Hurricane Maria ap...
A former cabinet member recalls the president's bizarre ideas.
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[12-Jul-20 08:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Selling to whom?


[12-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Skydreams#1312
probably china


[12-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Greenland lmao


[12-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Remember that?


[12-Jul-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Swap Puerto Rico with Greenland


[12-Jul-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
And to think this isn't even as dumb as the time he wanted to nuke a hurricane


[12-Jul-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Danish Puerto Rico


[12-Jul-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[12-Jul-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
hm yes i am upset that you called me out on my racism so i am going to retaliate by being even more racist


[12-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Skydreams#1312
:bigbrain:


[12-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:faceclaw:


[12-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Skydreams#1312
i guess they don't think they've turned enough people against them yet


[12-Jul-20 08:56 PM] ononim#8141
Fucking comical


[12-Jul-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Jul-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Lee would have said "no plaques, fuck off"


[12-Jul-20 09:27 PM] wren#0114
I want to see a hurricane nuked tbh


[12-Jul-20 09:27 PM] wren#0114
have we unlocked sandbox mode for Earth yet


[12-Jul-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/surgeon-general-jerome-adams-us-coronavirus-weeks-masks-2020-7

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Adams compared his past advice against buying and wearing masks to doctors who prescribed "leeches and cocaine and heroin for people as medical treatments" before they learned more.
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[12-Jul-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Maybe not the best comparison


[12-Jul-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://abcnews4.com/news/local/south-carolina-supreme-court-temporarily-bans-no-knock-warrants


[12-Jul-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
Now ban them federally, forever


[12-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Quote of the day from textbook


[12-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Society does not accept compassion as a sufficient justification for the killing of a human being."


[12-Jul-20 11:55 PM] byte[]#2610
what context?


[13-Jul-20 12:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cunt ext


[13-Jul-20 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cumtext


[13-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
assisted suicide probably.


[13-Jul-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
oh daddy 💦 😩 💦 assist me


[13-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Opponent#3498
shame tbh.


[13-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[13-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(It's about assisted suicide, yes)


[13-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Which is not actually assisted suicide, it's murder technically)


[13-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Honahue#0656
I dunno murder implies that the murderer is the one choosing to kill someone in assisted suicide it's the will of the one dying not the killer


[13-Jul-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
why is there even a legal controversy around assisted suicide


[13-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Honahue#0656
cause suicide a sin


[13-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Opponent#3498
which is one of many reasons Christian ideology has outlived it's usefulness.


[13-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
it makes even less sense in the case of Calvinism cause predestination means that all those who will be saved is already known by God so if someone wants to off themselves why should you bother trying to stop them God planned this


[13-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
most protestents are Calvinist especially in the US


[13-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
basically Calvinism is the Rick version of christianity, self centered and fatalist


[13-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/sketchesbyboze/status/1282068397430382598?s=21

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interesting how Fahrenheit 451 predicted a world where STEM would have largely replaced the humanities, resulting in a population lacking in empathy, accustomed to cruelty and starved for the meaning that art and literature used to bring
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[13-Jul-20 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
garbage take


[13-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Honahue#0656
it's not that STEM is inherently bad but it's currently used to get people to watch the most ads and click the most links so it sure can seem like tech has removed at aesthetic conciderations from life


[13-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
STEM being pushed is just part of a larger scheme to devalue STEM anyway.


[13-Jul-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
part of a scheme for the capitalists to artificially commoditize it, you mean


[13-Jul-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
the sciences don't lose any intrinsic value no matter how many people learn them and use them to do the things they want to


[13-Jul-20 01:54 AM] jlun2#8758
combine STEM w/ humanities & arts to carve your niche thing


[13-Jul-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
they literally depend on each other


[13-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Honahue#0656
there's expectations to always be coding something in some highly competetive jobs


[13-Jul-20 01:55 AM] byte[]#2610
programming is such a wonderful example of how the sciences are interdependent with the humanities


[13-Jul-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
the languages offer you a particular freedom in how you choose to structure your application but it has to be compatible with what your peers are doing or it won't work out


[13-Jul-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
and not just compatible in being able to link with it, but being able to be understood by them


[13-Jul-20 01:56 AM] byte[]#2610
the programming language is for the humans, otherwise we'd all just be writing the raw bytes of machine code to make our processors tick


[13-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Honahue#0656
that was what people did in the 50's and 60's but computers pretty much couldn't be understood back then by anyone without a PhD either


[13-Jul-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
and some people still do that!


[13-Jul-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
but by far, it's just not the common case anymore. people don't work as lone wolves, they work in medium to large groups with lots of collaborators


[13-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
...it's really unusual - seing you with a pony avatar


[13-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
well, MLP avatar anyway.


[13-Jul-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I was a bit uptight


[13-Jul-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I've decided to let go of most of my reservations about how I look and act


[13-Jul-20 02:06 AM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] Its the same in scientific fields (I work in a crossover field). Communication and collaboration are essential in research.


[13-Jul-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1282387141251784707?s=20

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[13-Jul-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
>67% trust Fauci for covid information
>_26%_ trust Trump


[13-Jul-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
yikes


[13-Jul-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/506985-pressley-hits-devos-over-reopening-schools-i-wouldnt-trust-you-to-care-for-a

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Pressley hits DeVos over reopening schools: 'I wouldn't trust you t...
Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) swiped at Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Sunday after the Trump administration official doubled down on her push for students to return to school.
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[13-Jul-20 02:39 AM] jlun2#8758
how is Fauci not fired yet


[13-Jul-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because firing fauci would be a nightmare


[13-Jul-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/04/23/can-president-trump-fire-dr-fauci/

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Can President Trump Fire Dr. Fauci? - FedSmith.com
There has been recent speculation that President Trump might fire Dr. Anthony Fauci, but can the president really do this given that Fauci is a federal employee?
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[13-Jul-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He can be removed from the task force, but as long as he is following the rules under the following provisions, he cannot be fired without going through complicated measures


[13-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Dr. Fauci is a career member of the Senior Executive Service (SES), a position classification created by the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, and which went into effect under President Carter. Under Federal law, he can be fired if he is found to have engaged in “misconduct, neglect of duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a direct reassignment or to accompany a position in a transfer of function”, is or to be “less than successful [in his] executive performance.”
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> However, prior to being terminated for performance or conduct, Dr. Fauci must be given the due process protections offered by 5 U.S.C. § 7543(b), which provides that he is entitled to:
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>     at least 30 days’ advance written notice, unless there is reasonable cause to believe the employee has committed a crime for which a sentence of imprisonment may be imposed, stating the specific reasons for the proposed action;
>     a reasonable time, but not less than 7 days, to answer orally and in writing and to furnish affidavits and other documentary evidence in support of the answer;
>     be represented by an attorney or other representative; and
>     a written decision and the specific reasons therefor at the earliest practicable date.


[13-Jul-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Firing faucii would also be a nightmare for Trumps relection bid, because people like fauci and trust him more than Trump


[13-Jul-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
>he cannot be fired without going through complicated measures


[13-Jul-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
that never stopped trump before


[13-Jul-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
True but it was never this close to election dates before


[13-Jul-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/la_louve_rouge_/status/1282344581455998976?s=20

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Betsy DeVos says that "only" 0.02% of children will probably die as a result of schools re-opening. 

That's 14,740 children.

That's about 40 times the number of school shooting victims from the last 10 years.
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[13-Jul-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Your children may die horribly, but that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make


[13-Jul-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
so? that also never stopped him before, because he's never been reelected before


[13-Jul-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this point exactly, he hasnt been re-elected and firing fauci would be a huge hazard to that


[13-Jul-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
trump doesn't have a good understanding of hazards to his candidacy, because most things that would have tanked a normal candidacy did nothing to his


[13-Jul-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
let me also remind you that his administration committed literal treason wrt the russian bounties on US troops. is that not enough fucking hazard?


[13-Jul-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
how does firing fauci in any way shape or form compare to that


[13-Jul-20 02:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His voter base doesn't care anyways :depressed:


[13-Jul-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The difference for this one is a global pandemic, which he has been neglegent at dealign with while fauci has been at the forefront of at every step.


[13-Jul-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And Karens as a stereotype are a symptom of it


[13-Jul-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fauci is the literal face of Trump's covid team.


[13-Jul-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the russian bounty thing is just another fuck up ont he pile of russian fuck ups Trump has piled under his seat in which he can sic barr on anyone who tries to investigate it


[13-Jul-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He can't sic barr on fauci, fauci has nothing he can use for blackmail, and going after Fauci's job would likely see him tangled in lawsuits up the ass.


[13-Jul-20 02:59 AM] jlun2#8758
is barr invincible


[13-Jul-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
as long as trump is the president, yes


[13-Jul-20 03:01 AM] jlun2#8758
so 4 more years :ts_cry:


[13-Jul-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The only kind of lawsuit Trump likes are land disputes and SLAPP suits


[13-Jul-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
do realize that just because they are invincible while in office does not mean they are omnipotent


[13-Jul-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, if Trump loses this upcoming election then he will be buried up to his neck in lawsuits and criminal investigations, as well as most of his cabinet


[13-Jul-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only thing protecting barr, Trump, devos, and friends is their positions in the executive


[13-Jul-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/506986-appeals-court-rules-first-federal-execution-in-17-years-can-proceed

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Appeals court rules first federal execution in 17 years can proceed
The first federal execution in more than a decade is expected to go forward as planned on Monday after an appeals court overturned a lower court's ruling halting the execution over coronavirus concerns.
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[13-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
>committed literal treason wrt bounties on troops


[13-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Pontology#1010
What the absolute f*ck are you talking about?


[13-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Synfag#9241

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[13-Jul-20 03:41 AM] illumnious#7938
Gay


[13-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Synfag#9241
they're working together huh


[13-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Do you think Trump collaborated with Russia to kill American soldiers or some bullsh*t fake news?


[13-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Pontology#1010
There is literally zero evidence of that. All we know is that likely Trump has been aware of possible Russian bounties. That’s all. Basically no story.


[13-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Is the fact he hasn’t declared war on Russia “treason” or something? @prism stryder(intexda)


[13-Jul-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Don;t ping me, i wasnt the one who said it


[13-Jul-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I just said it was another thing for his russian shit pile


[13-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Whoops @byte[]


[13-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Synfag#9241
it's always russia
russia russia russia


[13-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, 2 minutes of hate for Russia.


[13-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, how about that criminal execution, huh?


[13-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Media decided to make Russia some kind of arch-nemesis obscenely out of proportion to either their threat or capability.


[13-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Pontology#1010
To pin things on and blame.


[13-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Usually a grain of truth in the allegations, and they make a mountain out of $500 in Facebook ads or some stupidly insignificant thing.


[13-Jul-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/506780-court-upholds-regulation-boosting-electric-grid-storage

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Court upholds regulation boosting electric grid storage
A federal court on Friday upheld a regulation that removes barriers to electric grid-level batteries that store electricity.
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[13-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hptelp/kkkarens_at_trump_rally/

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[13-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Crow#5457
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[13-Jul-20 05:14 AM] wren#0114
be patient, he hasn't had a lot of practice with masks yet


[13-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Crow#5457
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These streamers are at Disney World, visited first aid last night for cough, shortness of breath, and severe vomiting, and were back in Magic Kingdom today complaining of sore throats https://t.co/1mighq1pUa
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[13-Jul-20 05:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[13-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponkthonk:


[13-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Marukomuru#8409
But those are part of the system...


[13-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Maulkin12#8001
@wren I think that's just how boomers wear masks. Almost every person I've seen who wears them like that is a boomer.


[13-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Floor Bored#1593
Yep


[13-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Floor Bored#1593
I literally want to say "are you retarded" to everyone I see wearing them like that


[13-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Floor Bored#1593
But I am a relatively low-conflict person IRL


[13-Jul-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine going outside


[13-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Floor Bored#1593
I'm just not interested in getting punched by boomers, because shit like that will escalate and if I'm starting it I'm not going to step down


[13-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Maulkin12#8001
just tug on their oxygen tube

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[13-Jul-20 05:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They are mouth breathers. Not much to worry about.

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[13-Jul-20 05:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
I've done that a few times while working, tbh...


[13-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Tugged on people's oxygen tubes? O_o


[13-Jul-20 05:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
But only when I'm relatively alone and really need to breath.
No, pulled the mask away from my nose.


[13-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Maulkin12#8001
Oh, yeah. I usually do that when I'm alone in the store, at the end of my shift.


[13-Jul-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Sane thing for me.
Like after I'm done lifting furniture and take a breather alone.


[13-Jul-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
pretty sure it doesn't put anyone else at much risk to take your mask off when you're alone


[13-Jul-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
When I'm not alone but also not in close proximity to anyone


[13-Jul-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem is that you have to work in the first place, covid can be asymptomatic, and testing is abysmal so you don't even know if you're going to be a safety hazard to be at work


[13-Jul-20 05:49 AM] byte[]#2610
daily tests for the entire population, contact tracing and mandatory quarantining could more or less keep this thing fully down within a month or two


[13-Jul-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately, we're not there, and we're complacent as fuck, which you can see by how quickly the lockdowns were lifted by individual state governments, even as their death tolls continued increasing


[13-Jul-20 05:51 AM] wren#0114
its as if we're bored of it so we're stopping caring


[13-Jul-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
did we ever care that much in the first place?


[13-Jul-20 05:51 AM] wren#0114
I mean, the panic hype was real for a month or so


[13-Jul-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the government after all that more or less is in bed with the same people who say "it's okay if grandma dies for the sake of the economy"


[13-Jul-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it certainly doesn't feel like we took the public health threat seriously at all. most measures were half assed and too late to be effective


[13-Jul-20 05:52 AM] wren#0114
but the media is so artifically controlling the zeitgeist that once the media pressure stopped, people stopped caring as much and stopped feeling the pressure to isolate


[13-Jul-20 05:53 AM] wren#0114
yeah and the gov has been wanting to stay open as much as possible regardless of infection numbers/rate which doesn't help


[13-Jul-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
at least in the US; most other countries were very graceful about managing their response and have more or less contained the virus by now


[13-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Xenxc#4012
to be fair, the US was founded on disobeying the law if you see it as tyrannical, which is probably one of the reasons why it's been so out of control


[13-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Xenxc#4012
lockdowns didn't do shit because people saw it as "tyrannical" and did whatever they wanted anyway. though it still helped the people who were like "hm maybe we should listen to the government and stay inside"


[13-Jul-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
the US has been up to the task of collective action and restrictions on individual liberty in the face of a serious threat before (see WWII) but not really much at all after that


[13-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Xenxc#4012
hehe patriot act


[13-Jul-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
the thing about restrictions on individual liberty is that once the threat has passed you have to actually... lift them


[13-Jul-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
pat riot act is a nonresponse to a nonproblem used to justify expansive law enforcement powers and the people who sponsored its key clauses regarding warrantless surveillance should have been kicked to the curb by voters


[13-Jul-20 06:00 AM] byte[]#2610
but the media machine manufactured our continued consent to it


[13-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Xenxc#4012
9/11 had just happened and it being framed as an "anti-terrorism move" made scared people support it


[13-Jul-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
we literally went to war with a country that had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks


[13-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Xenxc#4012
strange how the government uses acts of terror against the country to extend their reach and tighten their hold on the civilian population


[13-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Xenxc#4012
almost as if they *wanted* things like that to happen


[13-Jul-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
national unity was at a true record high post 9/11. I wonder how it would have played out if we'd had gore instead of bush


[13-Jul-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
there is some evidence to suggest that the terrorist attacks would have been thwarted if the clinton-era measures which were already monitoring al qaeda had not been scrapped by bush


[13-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Xenxc#4012
i probably shouldn't be talking conspiracy theories when it's this late though


[13-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Xenxc#4012
actually, you know what? i'm going to go to bed, at a reasonable hour for once


[13-Jul-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-reports-a-record-high-15299-new-coronavirus-infections-2020-7

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Florida hits new record for daily coronavirus cases, with more than...
Florida hits the highest daily tally for new cases in the outbreak's history, beating an April record set by New York, according to Reuters.
https://i.insider.com/5f0b2cec3ad86122a7399a93?width=1200&format=jpeg


[13-Jul-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/politics/texas-swing-state-2020-election-polls/index.html

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Texas is a swing state in 2020, new polls reveal
New CBS News/YouGov polls show President Donald Trump is in trouble in three states he won in 2016. He's tied with former Vice President Joe Biden in Arizona (46% to 46%), a state he won by four points in 2016. Trump's down 48% to 42% in Florida, a state he took by a point in ...
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200709174609-trump-biden-split-super-tease.jpg


[13-Jul-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
@Itsthinking how's it feel to be right?


[13-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This doesn't feel as good as predicting Ohio is the new Missouri.


[13-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Xenxc#4012
https://nypost.com/2020/07/09/feds-take-ghislaine-maxwells-sheets-clothes-to-prevent-suicide

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Ghislaine Maxwell’s bedsheets, clothes taken by feds to prevent sui...
Alleged Jeffrey Epstein fixer Ghislaine Maxwell has been forced to wear paper clothes and sleep on paper sheets so she won’t hang herself with them like Epstein, according to a report.
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[13-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Xenxc#4012
>thinking paper clothes are going to protect her from suicide via two gunshots to the back of the head


[13-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Honahue#0656
lol, I mean that's what "killed" Epstien


[13-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
hope she's drinking her milk though he's gonna need a strong hyoid bone


[13-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
smh, them criminals always trying to kill themselves


[13-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:notbestpony:


[13-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:rarityhmm:


[13-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also, you can suicide yourself just by banging your head against the hard wall.


[13-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
you can suicide by biting your tongue off but it takes a shit ton of will. I know that these people have never face hardship in their lives but going from pampered to suicide with something that takes a temendous amount of effort is eh... to me


[13-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
inb4 they trip over and bite off own tongue by accident


[13-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Cause of Death: Tongue forcibly removed via two gunshots to the back of the head


[13-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
that's not suicide tho

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[13-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496

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Dwayne Johnson (@TheRock)
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Where are you?
#normalizeequality
#blacklivesmatter https://t.co/Xid3BC4B2n
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[13-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
from 1 month ago


[13-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.tiktok.com/@dollface999/video/6845321520802467077

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dollface on TikTok
What kind of sci-fi police state horror is this. Defund the police. #blm #blmmovement #acab #blacklivesmatter
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[13-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
```DO NOT INTERFERE. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE OFFICERS' LAWFUL ACTIONS. OFFICERS ARE TAKING LAWFUL ACTION, DO NOT INTERFERE. DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE OFFICERS' LAWFUL ACTIONS.```


[13-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Crow#5457
something something dystopia


[13-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8i_FCOGYU

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RipCityBassWorks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8i_FCOGYU
U.S. Marshals Assault Medics Tending to an Injured Person During Po...
Federal police violently attack two medics trying to help an injured protester on 07-12-2020. 



Credit to Tre Stewart: https://www.facebook.com/tre.stewart
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[13-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
it seems like the US isn't even trying to pretend to be a bastion of freedom anymore


[13-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/ak0sN05kFdI

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FOX59 News
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Video shows people hit by car in Bloomington after protest (Video B...
Two people were hit by a car in Bloomington Monday night as a protest in response to a viral video showing what appears to be a racially motivated assault was wrapping up.
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[13-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://cdn4.liveleak.com/2020/Jul/10/LiveLeak-dot-com-3_1594420197.mp4.5f08ebf2ba089.mp4?secure=0LDW3M6zc68KTdl-12vClQ==,1594634342

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[13-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/comments/hq4eza/portland_cops_shoot_peaceful_protester_holding_a/

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r/2020PoliceBrutality - Portland cops shoot peaceful protester hold...
590 votes and 91 comments so far on Reddit
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[13-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Crow#5457
we can add boomboxes to the list https://i.redd.it/w4zcpzl66wn21.jpg

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[13-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1282117207728836608

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This is @RepGrothman *today* at the Wisconsin Republican convention (which was held in-person) https://t.co/MnsVlJryLE
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[13-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=91UpG_1594540238

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Liveleak.com - Heated exchanges as Trump supporters protest BLM mur...
A group of about 50 Blue Lives Matter supporters gathered in front of..
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[13-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Crow#5457
just link the video source, direct liveleak videos don't preview well because they're usually big files


[13-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Crow#5457
that flag is so cringy though


[13-Jul-20 12:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
alright


[13-Jul-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-seeks-to-undercut-fauci-by-circulating-mistakes-list-2020-7

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The White House stepped up its campaign against Dr. Fauci, circulat...
Fauci is continuing to deliver blunt warnings about the US' faltering response to the coronavirus, and the White House is stepping up its attacks.
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[13-Jul-20 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Jul-20 01:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Heavy flood is striking China, already tens of people dead


[13-Jul-20 01:55 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our government is warning the price of rice will raise up this year


[13-Jul-20 02:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The price of tea will probably raise up as well... I saw a tea seller crying loud on the TV, complaining the flood drowned his 3000t tea leaves


[13-Jul-20 02:09 PM] Celtica#4754
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53385021

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Poland's conservative President Duda re-elected
Incumbent Andrzej Duda wins by a slim margin over liberal rival Rafal Trzaskowski.
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[13-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Pontology#1010
There’s a reason Warsaw is the safest major city in Europe.


[13-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Let me guess
Immigrants?


[13-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, they’re keeping the capital of the Polish nation Polish.


[13-Jul-20 03:40 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Cause nobody wants to go there?
I was on holiday in Warsaw last year and it was empty af.


[13-Jul-20 03:41 PM] PwnyPony#6185
On the upside there were no queues for anything.


[13-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess i could agree that Europe shouldnt let everyone from Syria in,cause we all can see what happened to France


[13-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Pontology#1010
Annual car burnings, how fun.


[13-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Pontology#1010
Diversity sure is our strength.


[13-Jul-20 03:44 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Car burning has been going on across Europe a lot longer than refugees have been coming in.


[13-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Pontology#1010
Well, the annual car arsons have been done by France’s Arabs, been going on for decades.


[13-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Pontology#1010
New Year’s Eve? Time to set fire to strangers’ cars.


[13-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Does Arabs even celebrate New Year's Eve?


[13-Jul-20 03:50 PM] PwnyPony#6185
They do. New Year is celebrated around the world. China holds back a bit for their own new year.


[13-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Pontology#1010
The answer is no. Islamic New Year is different.


[13-Jul-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people probably celebrate both


[13-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Pontology#1010
The more secular I’m sure celebrate our new year’s, while the religious think it’s haram.


[13-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Yeah.


[13-Jul-20 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-says-trumps-tax-returns-have-been-audited-ruining-excuse-2020-7

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Giuliani blew up Trump's usual excuse for withholding his tax retur...
Rudy Giuliani said that President Trump's tax returns are almost completely audited, nullifying the president's excuse for not releasing them.
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[13-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/507015-hawley-fires-back-at-espn-nba-over-china#

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Hawley fires back at ESPN, NBA over China
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) in an interview on Monday called ESPN’s suspension of reporter Adrian Wojnarowski a distraction from the NBA's relationship with China and said he would support a Senate subpoena of NBA Commissioner Adam Silver.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/hawleyjosh_012320gn3_lead.jpg


[13-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's this mad about being told to fuck off lmao


[13-Jul-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
yep


[13-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Great. The anti sjw bullshit contunes on in Poland. But the left seems to have grown if it was by a slim margin.


[13-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology Poland: Invades Iraq  Poland in the Future: Man why is the middle east so fucked up with the rise of ISIS? How the hell did that happen? Not like we helped cause the rise of ISIS by createing poltical unstablablty in Iraq back in 2003.


[13-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anyway, Poland's alt light garbage has been fucking up people in Poland.


[13-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
also what the fuck is that statement of gay rights being an idolagy that is worse then commusim


[13-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
thats some garbage from alex jones comments section right there


[13-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The pis party is full of piss

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[13-Jul-20 05:44 PM] illumnious#7938
Piss.net


[13-Jul-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/07/10/889726473/i-c-e-citizens-trainings-may-be-a-vigilante-academy-chicago-alderman-warns

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ICE Citizens Trainings May Be A 'Vigilante Academy,' Chicago Alderm...
U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement is soliciting volunteers for classes on how it handles deportations in Chicago. But activists don't trust the agency.
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[13-Jul-20 05:57 PM] ononim#8141
I am not sure Warsaw or even over a half of Poland is really safest place in Europe, if you're not the right orientation or gender


[13-Jul-20 05:58 PM] ononim#8141
||and if the numbers of far-right nationalists that go to Polish independence day marches are to be , possibly ethnicity too||


[13-Jul-20 06:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507028-top-white-house-aide-shares-cartoon-mocking-fauci#

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Top White House aide shares cartoon mocking Fauci
Top White House aide Dan Scavino publicly mocked Dr. Anthony Fauci late Sunday, sharing a cartoon of the top U.S. infectious disease expert depicted as a faucet on social media.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_fauci_040920getty_0.jpg


[13-Jul-20 06:04 PM] wren#0114
it's all so tiresome


[13-Jul-20 06:11 PM] Feldaenus#7887
Not sure why I should care about a politically charged article talking about a country they have no business talking about, while hyper focusing on le gaye rights as if that's the only thing important about the president. Isn't any of ye going to call out the bias obvious in the article?

Also pic ; Yes, this kind of stuff is very bad from ye very holy left. Justify this for me please.


As well, I have to wonder ; since when have politically leaning articles become accepted by people? There used to be a time when such things would be a red flag for most people. Journalism in 2020.

And as closing words, me and my spouse as le gaye couple have been fine in this supposed horrible poland for decades.
Y'all need to stop projecting your politics into every place and thing in the world. Neither left nor right.

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[13-Jul-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Jul-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
Astonishingly, people have political leanings and opinions and can do journalism. Also astonishingly, people indeed can write about something outside the borders of the country they reside in. I do hope that if you value unbiasness so much, you're also against FOX news, RT, or any other right wing news sites and channels, or any of them who write about other countries, including US jouranlists writing about Germany, Iran, Russia, China, et c.
And yes, I say that the opinion and their practical implementations of that rights should people who aren't straight and/or cis living in the country should have might be important. And even so, from all I heard, he is indeed a bad president even if he wasn't anti LGBT.


[13-Jul-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/opinion/facebook-cancer-ads.html

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By Anne Borden King
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/opinion/facebook-cancer-ads.html
Opinion | I Have Cancer. Now My Facebook Feed Is Full of ‘Alternati...
Being targeted by those who traffic in false promises feels like a “slap in the face” to patients like me.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/10/autossell/10borden-still/10borden-still-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/hong-kong-universities-rattled-new-security-law

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Hong Kong universities rattled by new security law
The impact on research is unclear but worrisome, scholars say
https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_large/public/HongKong-1280p.jpg?itok=t74mI9_Y


[13-Jul-20 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
Shameful


[13-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Feldaenus#7887
Yes in fact, I am one of those rare few snowflakes who seemingly values news being, you know, unbiased, thanks a lot for the enlightening snark.
 And yes, in fact, in case you didn't read, which you probably didn't - I am against ANY news sites leaning into either left or right wing.
 And no, writing about another country is a-ok - except when its done to fit your political agenda, in which case, yes, you can kindly get your article and put it up the abyssal region of yours. Don't expect me not to call out journalists for not doing the research - which should be their job, and instead projecting their own views. Are you gonna tell me not to criticize, next? 
I won't tell you if your opinion is right or not, all have a right to their own, but if you think my point was to discredit le gaye rights, you probably didn't pay attention. *Or I suck at wording. More likely.*
My point is and will always be whether that neutrality is kept. 
Oh, and by the wae, things you and I and everyone *hears* can be very different from the reality.

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[13-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53307327

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China warns UK over Hong Kong 'interference'
The warning came just after a pro-democracy campaigner asked for more international support.
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[13-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Feldaenus not worth your time. I was told by some people in dms that I am a homophobe (for not hating my country) and that gays are killed open in the streets where I live :faceclaw:


[13-Jul-20 06:53 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/opinion/facebook-cancer-ads.html
@byte[]  boomers using Facebook for health research

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Being targeted by those who traffic in false promises feels like a “slap in the face” to patients like me.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/10/autossell/10borden-still/10borden-still-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[13-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Moviebob's a chode.


[13-Jul-20 07:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BadtakeBob


[13-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's a literal Nazi at this point


[13-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What people do now in usa after that protesters' camp was cleared up?


[13-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I mean, do they have some sort of leaders now.


[13-Jul-20 07:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
back to normal protesting. marching the streets.


[13-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Oh. Still getting clubbed and gassed?


[13-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Xenxc#4012
still clubbing and gassing you mean


[13-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Huh. They got gas cartridges somewhere?


[13-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Xenxc#4012
no, just regular gasoline


[13-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Xenxc#4012
they sure do love burning buildings


[13-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ah. Sounds like no one is controlling them then.


[13-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Xenxc#4012
sure does seem like it


[13-Jul-20 07:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Police are focusing on large groups of protestors to be seen as doing something while individuals are able to run around looting and burning while the police get to try out all the protest equipment on crowds.


[13-Jul-20 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
**crow**ds

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[13-Jul-20 07:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Caw


[13-Jul-20 07:50 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/13/trumps-rage-dr-fauci-just-boomeranged-back-him/


[13-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bruh what a ba


[13-Jul-20 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
>WP opinion


[13-Jul-20 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
discarded tbh


[13-Jul-20 08:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1233402#click=https://t.co/rWiMoonC7s

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Trump says Fauci 'made a lot of mistakes'
The infectious disease expert says he hasn't briefed the president on coronavirus in two months.
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[13-Jul-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/more-than-200-schools-back-lawsuit-over-foreign-student-rule-2020-7

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More than 200 colleges are suing ICE over its new policy saying int...
More than 200 universities stand with Harvard and MIT's lawsuit against ICE. A judge is scheduled to hear them on Tuesday.
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[13-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[13-Jul-20 09:11 PM] wren#0114
the face is painfully accurate


[13-Jul-20 09:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Think I saw a guy in a weird van like that once. I don't think he was recruiting for the army though. :scared:

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[13-Jul-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-is-not-expected-to-leave-trump-administration-or-be-fired-wapo-2020-7

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[14-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/507121-at-least-65k-absentee-or-mail-in-ballots-have-been-rejected-this

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At least 65,000 absentee or mail-in ballots from this year’s primaries have been rejected, according to an analysis by NPR.
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[14-Jul-20 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"oh no! the election results could be delayed by weeks!"


[14-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Pontology#1010
@Gordon Freeman Poland has had gay rights for 1000 years. Homosexual sex has literally never been illegal in Poland—it is unique in Europe this way.


[14-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://clickhole.com/a-beautiful-sentiment-president-trump-just-gave-a-speech-announcing-that-the-twin-towers-are-69-ing-each-other-in-heaven/

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[14-Jul-20 12:27 AM] illumnious#7938
Kill me


[14-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Pontology#1010
@Gordon Freeman They are opposed to "lgbt ideology", not gay rights. Lgbt ideology like how some California schools teach this to children:

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[14-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Pontology#1010
>people reacting to that satire article as if it's real


[14-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's just an extreme backlash to most US schools being abstinence-only


[14-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Pontology#1010
>most US schools abstinence-only
Not true


[14-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thoughtco.com/abstinence-only-sex-education-3533767

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Which States Offer Abstinence Only Sex Education?
Statistics indicate a link between sex education and a drop in teen pregnancy in states where it is mandated.
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[14-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, exactly.


[14-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Meanwhile you have people being outraged kids get "taught" about sexting etc in these things


[14-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Why are we teaching kids about sexting?


[14-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm mad now too.


[14-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why are we teaching kids about something that could hurt them and how to avoid being a victim"


[14-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh, if it's just "beware of sexting from strangers", alright.


[14-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I wouldn't call that "teaching kids about sexting".


[14-Jul-20 01:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-spooked-by-faucis-high-approval-ratings-on-coronavirus-wapo-2020-7

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In a June New York Times/Siena College poll, 76% of respondents said they trusted Fauci for pandemic information, and 26% said they trusted Trump.
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[14-Jul-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-orders-doj-to-explain-its-secret-portions-of-the-mueller-report-by-next-week/

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[14-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology bruh the pis party thinks gay rights are a threat to Poland


[14-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I dont see anything ideological about that pic tbh


[14-Jul-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhqj6woxkUo

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Tucker Carlson Setting Stage for Violence If Trump Loses
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People Are Falling for Tucker Carlson's Populist Nonsense https://youtu.be/Q-lXZxxT6Sc

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[14-Jul-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/anonymous-white-house-officials-leak-meadows-scheme-to-catch-leakers

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[14-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Pontology#1010
@Gordon Freeman Gender is a social construct, so teaching kids about "gender identity" is ideological.


[14-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not scientific or factual, but encouraging a particular social construct.


[14-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Pontology#1010
And it has real deleterious consequences, such as Sweden's 1500% increase in teenage gender dysphoria. Teach kids they might not be who they are on the inside and they funnel their natural puberty discomfort with their bodies into thinking they might be the wrong gender.


[14-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Cloppershy#6322
Law is a social construct. Morals are a social construct. So many things are social constructs


[14-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Pontology#1010
So why the f*ck are we socially constructing garbage like "nonbinary"


[14-Jul-20 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.dw.com/en/homophobia-in-poland-still-deeply-entrenched/a-49720087

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Homophobia in Poland still deeply entrenched | DW | 23.07.2019
Homophobia is more widespread in Poland than in most other eastern European countries, research suggests. But there is also a sense of optimism in the LGBT community despite efforts by conservative MPs to undermine it.
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[14-Jul-20 01:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology because it has existed in numerous societies before


[14-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Pontology#1010
So f*cking what?


[14-Jul-20 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It means it's valid


[14-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Pontology#1010
No, it means it's their culture


[14-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Many things existed in many societies.


[14-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Cloppershy#6322
Because maybe giving people options to be who and what they want to be without limiting to gender stereotypes (which are also a social construct) is a good thing


[14-Jul-20 01:18 AM] ononim#8141
How it is harming others by letting people question and experiment with their gender identity?


[14-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Pontology#1010
"Gender is a social construct that corresponds with your gender expression" ENCOURAGES GENDER STEREOTYPES


[14-Jul-20 01:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kinda, but not quite


[14-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Before, effeminate men were just effeminate men


[14-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And they still are


[14-Jul-20 01:19 AM] ononim#8141
but people also can be not that


[14-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It all depends on what that person identifies as


[14-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Pontology#1010
That's all it is, "identity"


[14-Jul-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok boomer


[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Pontology#1010
It's utter narcissistic garbage. https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47612616

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Sam Smith: 'I'm not male or female'
The singer says realising he doesn't identify as either gender has improved his body confidence.
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[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse its there life there liberty to live there life how they want to


[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is wildly misrepresenting of the oft neglected history of the LGBT+ movement


[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Pontology#1010
He's a bearded man. Demanding to be called "they/them" is narcissistic garbage.


[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Why


[14-Jul-20 01:20 AM] ononim#8141
they might be an effemenate man, they might find that they're more comfortable as someone whose identity is neither male or female, they might learn about themselves and find that they're trans woman, or they might try out these and come to conclusion that they're indeed just an effeminate man and be happy with it


[14-Jul-20 01:21 AM] ononim#8141
How is it "narcissistic garbage "


[14-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Because it is. Forcing people to remember and use speshul pronouns for you in their common parlance is narcissism, nothing less.


[14-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Pontology#1010
It's certainly not biological.


[14-Jul-20 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's literally just a fucking word and it has no serious bearing upon your life or identity


[14-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, unless I'm imprisoned for calling a man a man.


[14-Jul-20 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok boomer


[14-Jul-20 01:22 AM] ononim#8141
how is "they" of all things a "speshul" one


[14-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Or socially ostracized, or fired.


[14-Jul-20 01:23 AM] ononim#8141
you're being an asshole, of course you're socially ostracised


[14-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Pontology#1010
He's being the asshole, not me


[14-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pontology cops wont send you to jail for that


[14-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Pontology#1010
We need to stop humoring narcissists.


[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But they will shoot you for being on your own porch https://youtu.be/esyMFOu8ZFE

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[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
theres a whole news network dedicated to humoring Trump and he's a huge narcissist


[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just correct your behavior and stop being an asshole to them -- 100% of the time people have been punished for transphobia, they have overstepped their boundaries and gone intentionally confrontational and offensive


[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Cloppershy#6322
Language itself is not biological

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[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I am not an asshole to trans people


[14-Jul-20 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good?


[14-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Hey could you use this pronoun when talking about me please?" "WHY ARE YOU BEING NARSASITUC!?!?"


[14-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Cloppershy#6322
Using gendered pronouns at all is arbitrary, it doesn't make sense to demand they are tied to some biological feature


[14-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Because he's making no effort to be anything but male. It's literally just a speshul pronoun request


[14-Jul-20 01:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[14-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Cloppershy#6322
Let people call themselves how they want. Using the correct pronouns is just being considerate


[14-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Would it kill you to use a different pronoun?


[14-Jul-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is a "they" to you some weird skin blob?


[14-Jul-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Like would it just thanos you if you called them what they want to be called


[14-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Pontology#1010
I watched a debate a while ago, involving a nonbinary professor. Someone asked him how he remembers all his friend's pronouns, especially when they change them, and he says he just keeps each person's pronoun's next to their contact info in his phone.


[14-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Pontology#1010
It's ridiculous. It's a burden on others, the requests.


[14-Jul-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sounds like decent manners


[14-Jul-20 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh no, the oppressive burden of having to speak a little slower and be slightly more careful in the way i word things!


[14-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Omg you have to spend 5 seconds to edit your phone contacts. Oh the humanity


[14-Jul-20 01:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop being angry at such inane bullshit


[14-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Pontology#1010
>the absolute state of progressivism, having to keep track of people's pronouns on your phone because it's **so f\*cking linguistically unnatural**


[14-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Pontology#1010
It is for this reason it will never go mainstream


[14-Jul-20 01:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
because their faces don't exactly match the pronouns you expect of people?


[14-Jul-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is, well, part of the crux of conservatism -- repressing genuinely important expressions of life and being by minorities because it slightly inconveniences the conservative's boring day-to-day handling of affairs


[14-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ahhhh editing your phones contacts! So scary! Spending 5 seconds on a thing that you can do while takeing a shit or rideing an elevator or waiting in a doctors office


[14-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Cloppershy#6322
It's only unnatural because you learned it differently. Teach a child to only use pronouns that are given them or to always use "they", and they won't have a problem with it.


[14-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Pontology#1010
And THAT is exactly the "lgbt ideology" that Poland rejects. Teaching children this nonsense.


[14-Jul-20 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Nonsense"


[14-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Pontology#1010
It is, after all, just a social construct. So why bother?


[14-Jul-20 01:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You know what else is nonsense? National catholicism


[14-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Pontology#1010
For you maybe. Not to them.


[14-Jul-20 01:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's still considerable opposition to social conservatism from part of the Polish people so your claim is contradictory


[14-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Youth acceptance of lgbt has been plummetting lately https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/24/lgbtq-acceptance-millennials-decline-glaad-survey/1503758001/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20Americans%2018,down%20from%2063%25%20in%202016.

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The young are regarded as the most tolerant generation. That's why ...
Young people are growing less tolerant of LGBTQ individuals, a GLAAD acceptance survey shows, and advocates say a toxic culture may be to blame.
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[14-Jul-20 01:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[14-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Editing your phones contact list = worse then communism and a threat to Poland. Logic 100


[14-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
There's a reason for this. The article essentially says why: nonbinary nonsense.


[14-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Pontology#1010
It's bizarre for teenagers today to be less tolerant than millennials considering they're raised with lgbt acceptance.


[14-Jul-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Why should I bother remembering who is part of what relgion? it;s confusing and dumb to teach children. /s


[14-Jul-20 01:34 AM] Pontology#1010
I AGREE

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[14-Jul-20 01:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> The young are bombarded by hate speech on social platforms from viral videos to “mean tweets,” Gerzema said. “Our toxic culture is enveloping young people. It instills fear, alienation, but also permissibility” that could sway “impressionable" young minds on what is acceptable.

> And there is a more menacing side, Ellis said. “We are seeing a stark increase in violence in the community.” GLAAD has documented more than 40 incidents of LGBTQ hate violence since Jan. 1.


[14-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Pontology#1010
A co-worker's religion really shouldn't matter. If you're friends with them, then it does.


[14-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Pontology#1010
But I honestly couldn't care less what religion some random co-worker of mine is.


[14-Jul-20 01:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If it is "rational disagreement" with the way LGBT issues are being handled, why is there violence?


[14-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Ad#1511
@Pontology your source is not saying what you think it is


[14-Jul-20 01:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gender violence is not the product of a healthy, rational mind last time i've heard


[14-Jul-20 01:36 AM] Pontology#1010
@Ad 
> "The negative shift for the young is surprising, said Sarah Kate Ellis, GLAAD president and CEO. When GLAAD delved into the numbers, the group found that the younger generation was coming in contact with more LBGTQ people, _particularly individuals who are non-binary and don’t identify simply as lesbian or gay._ "


[14-Jul-20 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, because their insertion into society is still going through a growing phase in contact


[14-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Ad#1511
The toxic environment they mention in the article isn't in regards to enby spaces


[14-Jul-20 01:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gays were considered equally as "disgusting" as trans or queer people many decades ago -- now, they're the more well tolerated part of the LGBT movement


[14-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Ad#1511
It's saying the toxic environment of stuff like hate speech on platforms and trans bans is enveloping young people and shaping their perception


[14-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People are attacking lgbt people in the usa and yet the lgbt movement is a ""threat"" to poland? Pis party can piss off with that garbage thinking. It bearly won this election meaning the left in poland is geting sick of this anti sjw Schick


[14-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Their birthrates are already only 1.4/woman. Making 30% of people lgbt won't help with that at all.


[14-Jul-20 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why won't it?


[14-Jul-20 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They can donate to sperm banks


[14-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Need a married man and woman to raise children well.


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Homo couples can do that just as effectively


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gay couples do fine rasing children


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Generally speaking. Possibly homo couples, but that's messy business.


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its not tho


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how?


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Like its not messy business that is


[14-Jul-20 01:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i meant CEO


[14-Jul-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
How is it messy business?


[14-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Pontology#1010
need a random woman to be the mother, child will wonder who their biological mother is, etc


[14-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Pontology#1010
and only one of the two homo parents can be the biological father.


[14-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Regardless, I'm skeptical that children can be adjusted as well without both a male and female role model


[14-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Ad#1511
https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/  Here's a collection of 75 pier reviewed studies saying that children of samesex couples fare no worse than other children.  And 4 that conclude there are added disadvantages

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What does the scholarly research say about the well-being of childr...
Overview: We identified 79 scholarly studies that met our criteria for adding to knowledge about the well-being of children with gay or lesbian parents. Of those studies, 75 concluded that children of gay or lesbian parents fare no worse than other children. While many of the ...
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[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a mother/father doesnt need to be a male/female rolemodel, anyone can be a rolemodel to a child, sometimes parents are abusive and not at all role models


[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Regardless, obviously lgbt ideology — which makes 30% of people lgbt — is not conducive to birthrates.


[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Pontology#1010
What is conducive to birthrates is religion + traditional marriage for the purpose of reproduction.

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[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why


[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Honahue#0656
muh breeding


[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have you tried considering economic factors into it?


[14-Jul-20 01:43 AM] PwnyPony#6185
disgusting breeders. we have enough people thankyou.


[14-Jul-20 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or is your brain too small for that?


[14-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 30% of youth identify as lgbt in Britain now, thanks to gender ideology. I'll be shocked beyond belief if they end up having the same birthrates as the others.


[14-Jul-20 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why was there an increase? Could it be that they were afraid of speaking up honestly before?


[14-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Pontology#1010
@PwnyPony No we don't, birthrates are below replacement levels in all developed countries except Israel, thanks to their religious breeders.


[14-Jul-20 01:45 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The death rate is not high enough.


[14-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Honahue#0656
30% of people being lgbt doesn't mean 30% reduction in the "breeding population"


[14-Jul-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are "breeding" less because of environmental stress, education, economics, housing, college, etc


[14-Jul-20 01:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Me when someone rambles about birth rates in developed countries as if brown people are incapable of running societies

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[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I mean theres allways adoption


[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Honahue#0656
this really isn't the meddle ages people don't need to have 13 kids to make sure like 3 of them make it to adulthood


[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So gay couples can do that


[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now society isnt in a real good place for people to want to have children


[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Pontology#1010
PFFFFT


[14-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Are you kidding!? It's the best it's ever been! Richest, free-est, healthiest ever


[14-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/esyMFOu8ZFE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[14-Jul-20 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok, Atlas Foundation


[14-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Free to get shot by the cops on your porch


[14-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Free to get jailed in hongkong for being a "terrorist" for calling Xi Ping whinnie the pooh


[14-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Free to get chocked to death by cops for useing fake money allegedly


[14-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Honahue#0656
kids take a lot of effort to raise takes away from people's careers unless you're gonna be some adsentee workaholic to try and keep all these kids you keep having fed clothed and schooled. it's different if you're subsitance farming


[14-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Free to die from something Trump called a hoax


[14-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/us-cases-deaths.html

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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC is responding to the novel (new) coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.
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[14-Jul-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Free to get wages that don't keep up with productivity


[14-Jul-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the rampant unemployment, poor public education, terrible safety nets, healthcare tied to jobs


[14-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Pontology#1010
there are "just" 40 instances of police shooting unarmed people per year, most of whom are white, and many of which were justified.

**You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than being shot by a cop unjustified**


[14-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Let that statistic sink in and stop blowing things out of proportion.


[14-Jul-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh homelessness is about to be on the rise too with the rampant evictions


[14-Jul-20 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lolwut


[14-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cool tell the people who got teargassed in laffit square that


[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
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[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Pontology#1010
@Gordon Freeman Trump never called the coronavirus a hoax. Please look at the Snopes article on this and stop believing misleading headlines.


[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is this nigga serious? Murder by cop is not the only way PoC are unjustly targeted socially


[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I never said it was.


[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're not worth talking to


[14-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Just that you have a better chance of being struck by lightning.


[14-Jul-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/looming-evictions-may-soon-make-28-million-homeless-expert-says.html

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Looming evictions may soon make 28 million homeless in U.S., expert...
"We have never seen this extent of eviction in such a truncated amount of time in our history," housing expert Emily Benfer said.
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[14-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ "mixture"

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Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a 'Hoax'?
Trump's commentary on the new coronavirus came before the virus began killing patients in the U.S.
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[14-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Pontology#1010
> "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."


[14-Jul-20 01:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
While we are at it


[14-Jul-20 01:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-disinfectants-covid-19/

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Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectants as COVID-19 Treatment?
The U.S. president's comments prompted doctors and the makers of household disinfectants to issue statements urging people not to ingest or inject cleaning products.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/04/GettyImages-1210843226.jpg


[14-Jul-20 01:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, he asked if something like that could work.


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What's True

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Honahue#0656
this huge tide of unemployment and evictions are going to ruin the job market for everyone like 2008 except even worse


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, he did ask -- and the fact he even considered asking something so stupid dampens informed people's expectations of him


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the housing bubble is also collapsing


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Pontology#1010
He's not a smart guy. I wish his speech-writer and chief policy advisor Stephen Miller were president, an intelligent and eloquent dialogue for the same policies.


[14-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just by entertaining the idea he endorses it


[14-Jul-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it won;t lower the price of housing, it will just create more empty houses as banks evict people


[14-Jul-20 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd rather not have this whole system at all tbf


[14-Jul-20 01:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I deeply wish it was gone, alongside all the liars, mongrels, conmen and idiots that defend it


[14-Jul-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile we have whole apartment complexes just taken up by foreign investors letting them sit there unused because lower class tennents might "hurt the value"


[14-Jul-20 02:04 AM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/306SZT1

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[14-Jul-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/507039-17-states-sue-trump-administration-over-foreign-students-rule

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17 states sue Trump administration over foreign students rule
Seventeen states and the District of Columbia on Monday sued to block the Trump administration from stripping foreign students of visas if their colleges move exclusively to online classes amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[14-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Good, that's a dumb rule.


[14-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
"arbitrary and capricious", I think they have a good case.


[14-Jul-20 03:21 AM] illumnious#7938
perfect


[14-Jul-20 03:45 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)  is the housung collaspe later  enough to make ppl revolt or still nah


[14-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
there's no class conciousness in the US so even if there is a revolt and it succeds it'd just be new boss same as the old boss


[14-Jul-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention landlords and people who see themselves as "set back millionaires in waiting"


[14-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there might be a series of lawsuits though, however that may or may not go anywhere


[14-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a housing market crash will likely result in more absentee landlords buying up housing properties for investment purposes


[14-Jul-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which in turn lessens the amount of available housing in favor of selling those properties to rich people as second/vacation homes or just leaving them empty to "collect value" like leaving an action figure sealed in its packaging


[14-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Honahue#0656
Air BnB is the hotness currently


[14-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Honahue#0656
people leaving apartments mostly empty of leases to have as many AirBnB's as possible


[14-Jul-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
"derpibooru is run by communists"
damn, don't really seem like that tho

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[14-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Crow#5457
derpibooru's run by communist socialist nazi white supremacist marxist liberal conservatives


[14-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Crow#5457
it just gets shortened to communists for convenience


[14-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jul-20 05:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
it isn't that surprising but it is annoying that in Murica the concept of "freedom" has basically become this childish "you can't tell me what to do" mentality

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[14-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
everything degrades in time if not maintained. It's the same with other 'national idea' things.


[14-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and maintaining it... Well, we don't have an immortal ruler with a wide enough perspective.


[14-Jul-20 05:48 AM] wren#0114
celestia when


[14-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
```dissociativity Сегодня, в 6:28
"derpibooru is run by communists"
damn, don't really seem like that tho```
that brought me genuine smile and tears of joy. Thank you.


[14-Jul-20 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jul-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
❤️


[14-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[14-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Synfag#9241

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[14-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Krusty Krab's architecture is a metaphor for Mr. Krabs' own self-hatred. It's a crab trap


[14-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chum Bucket's is a metaphor for Plankton's acceptance of his fate as the detritus of of the ocean, nothing more than something combined with many other creatures picked up, to be thrown as bait


[14-Jul-20 06:06 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1282888821001072640?s=21

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[14-Jul-20 06:08 AM] illumnious#7938
Pee


[14-Jul-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it is?


[14-Jul-20 06:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
Once again I am asking for my soros bux


[14-Jul-20 06:19 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1282892191082385408?s=21

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LAW & ORDER!
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[14-Jul-20 06:20 AM] illumnious#7938
> it is?
@byte[]  byte yo, he’s lying okay. Like he’s straight outta fucking lying bruh


[14-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I think I finally realised the meaning of priviledge right now.


[14-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the ability, by any means, to see the direct, unprocessed data feed of large-scale operations. Like a nation's statistics. Raw feed, before any meddling occurs, political or otherwise.


[14-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Opponent#3498
to see it and know that, yes, this project is doomed, and everything else is rhethoric. Or, perhaps the opposite.


[14-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Opponent#3498
basicly, the ability to see the Truth, even accepting the probability of having it tortured out of you by interested parties.


[14-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Opponent#3498
the capacity to act upon it is a nice bonus, but absolutely not the important bit.


[14-Jul-20 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
uhhh


[14-Jul-20 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads-amp/925307/trump-complains-biden-obama-stopped-coronavirus-testing-even-though-didnt-exist-during-administration

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President Trump is blaming his biggest problem on his favorite enemy.
Trump held a press conference Monday where he was asked to explain why he constantly blames surging COVID-19 case counts on more testing. But he refused to acknowledge there simply are more coronavirus cases...
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[14-Jul-20 07:11 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[14-Jul-20 07:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.wcvb.com/article/virgin-mary-statue-set-on-fire-at-boston-church-saint-peter-parish-in-dorchester/33287717

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Virgin Mary statue set on fire at Boston church, officials say
The Boston Police and Fire Departments say they are investigating the fire as an arson.
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[14-Jul-20 07:56 AM] Synfag#9241

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[14-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Opponent#3498
our favourite brainlets.


[14-Jul-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
it makes one wonder if their entire goal to embarrass themselves and delegitimize the organization


[14-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Synfag#9241
https://thegrio.com/2020/07/13/passenger-jesus-was-black-threat/

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A man traveling on a flight from Seattle to Chicago threatened to kill passengers unless they accepted the fact that Jesus was Black.
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[14-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[14-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/mute-white-people-instagram-sticker/

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"Mute white people" Instagram sticker raises accusations of moderat...
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[14-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting how people will make fun of Karens but not accept this when it's the same goal


[14-Jul-20 08:56 AM] jlun2#8758
:gay:


[14-Jul-20 10:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hkjn81/antilgbt_protest_in_poland/

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r/PublicFreakout - Anti-LGBT protest in Poland
7,606 votes and 1,772 comments so far on Reddit
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[14-Jul-20 01:34 PM] illumnious#7938
:goodasfuckinghell:


[14-Jul-20 01:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Jul-20 02:55 PM] Pontology#1010

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[14-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Pontology#1010
:Galaxy_Brain:


[14-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Pontology#1010
@Itsthinking making fun of Karens isn’t anti-white, or anti-woman, it’s mocking a particular personality type.


[14-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Pontology#1010
“Mute white people” is just blatant interpersonal racial discrimination.


[14-Jul-20 03:09 PM] Crow#5457
the protests have been causing way more people to stay home than there would've been without the protests


[14-Jul-20 03:10 PM] Crow#5457
it's easy to cherrypick the clickbait headlines that don't explain the phenomenon, but this is pretty old news


[14-Jul-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-announces-sanctions-us-senators-ted-cruz-and-marco-rubio-2020-7

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[14-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Phelan#7647
Using the term Karen's is racially and sexually charged, which is exactly why I make fun of them.


[14-Jul-20 04:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's a stereotype.
Although I guess a non-white, non-female person could be called a Karen if they act like one.


[14-Jul-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think a male karen is a Ken, but i may be wrong


[14-Jul-20 04:06 PM] >That Guy#3386
What if a black man demands to see the manager after being told he can't return a dress three weeks after he bought it?
Or threatens to call immigration while getting a pedicure?


[14-Jul-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably a ken


[14-Jul-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though those are a rarer breed than white suburban karen and ken


[14-Jul-20 04:09 PM] >That Guy#3386
Ken doesn't sound as good.


[14-Jul-20 04:09 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think I'll just call everyone Karen.


[14-Jul-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently male karen name is still widely debated and undecided


[14-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
westley


[14-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
karen and westley


[14-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
I've seen a video or two of a man acting like a karen, but they seem to be much rarer


[14-Jul-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507200-colorado-officials-announce-squirrel-tested-positive-for-bubonic-plague

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Squirrel tests positive for bubonic plague in Colorado
A squirrel found in a Colorado town tested positive for bubonic plague, county health officials said.
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[14-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Burn it


[14-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just take it


[14-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
And cremate


[14-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/former-cdc-chiefs-trump-agency-guidelines-360527

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Former CDC chiefs rebuke Trump for ‘undermining’ agency’s guideline...
The condemnation comes after the president disavowed federal school reopening recommendations as “very tough & expensive.”
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[14-Jul-20 06:22 PM] illumnious#7938
WTF https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1283074048252153861?s=21

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It’s #NationalNudeDay which means it’s also National Stay Very Far Away From Joe Biden Day.
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[14-Jul-20 06:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Based


[14-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/507248-conservative-nyt-op-ed-writer-resigns-alleging-hostile-work-environment

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Conservative NYT op-ed writer resigns, alleging 'hostile work envir...
A conservative opinion writer at The New York Times published an open letter announcing her resignation on Tuesday, accusing the paper of allowing her to be bullied by colleagues because of her political views.
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[14-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`“The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people. This is a galaxy in which, to choose just a few recent examples, the Soviet space program is lauded for its 'diversity'; the doxxing of teenagers in the name of justice is condoned; and the worst caste systems in human history includes the United States alongside Nazi Germany."`


[14-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only one of those three things is bad


[14-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Honahue#0656
she's just gonna move to some conservative newspaper


[14-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1283076926295478272

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https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1283076926295478272
That Bari Weiss feels confident enough to leave one of the most prestigious jobs in journalism when the entire economy is collapsing tells you all you need to know about how right wing personalities are protected by the safety net of the conservative media welfare state.
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[14-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good thread that's related to that


[14-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah shes gonna make more money speaking at conservitive colleges about how the left silences conservative voices


[14-Jul-20 07:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Trump advisers fracture over Roger Stone pardon https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/09/inside-campaign-to-free-roger-stone-355440

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Trump advisers fracture over Roger Stone pardon
The president signals he's prepared to shield his longtime adviser from prison time, but Stone has little support in the White House.
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[14-Jul-20 07:56 PM] illumnious#7938
Hmm

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[14-Jul-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
doesn't it already


[14-Jul-20 08:24 PM] ononim#8141
How is it any different from how all the meat is produced nowadays lol


[14-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
When I was 18 years old I worked at this fancy beach hotel, I did a lot there from waitress to receptionist... we had all sort of local fresh fish to serve at the restaurant and yet people would often want the salmon who'd come from far away been already frozen and old because it's the 'fancy' name


[14-Jul-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I like what I like, okay


[14-Jul-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
:V


[14-Jul-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
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[14-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I wonder if weeks of mass gatherings to protest had anything to do with it.


[14-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
:think360fast:


[14-Jul-20 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends


[14-Jul-20 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think the protests had a significant effect on the case rise compared to miscalculated businness reopenings


[14-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
That should be easy to show, correlate the rise in cases with which states opened early vs which states had the most protestors.


[14-Jul-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://time.com/5861633/protests-coronavirus/
Time has done that

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[14-Jul-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/black-lives-matter-protests-didnt-contribute-to-covid19-surge

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Black Lives Matter Protests Didn’t Contribute to the COVID-19 Surge
Experts say the outdoor demonstrations were in the sun and wind. In addition, people were in motion and most were wearing masks.
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[14-Jul-20 08:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/cop-who-threatened-kill-protesters-shoots-kills-colleague-who-knocked-door-affidavit-says/BMAXC27P7FA7LMIAXFQUJAHZJE/ whoopsie

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Calvin Nicholas “Nick” Salyers, 33, of Alexander, Arkansas, is charged with manslaughter in the June 3 killing of 36-year-old Scott Hutton, who was fatally shot through Salyers' front door.
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[14-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Don't worry though. He'll still be on the force even though the idea of protestors holding signs while he's in full riot gear gets him a little antsy


[14-Jul-20 08:39 PM] illumnious#7938
:goodasfuckinghell:


[14-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Wasn't even charged with murder


[14-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
Despite the fact that it was, you know, premeditated killing.


[14-Jul-20 08:42 PM] illumnious#7938
:freakouteyes:


[14-Jul-20 08:42 PM] illumnious#7938
That’s Murica(I hate my country)


[14-Jul-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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it's big brain time

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[14-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Some of researches from that first doctor were useful tho


[14-Jul-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/507290-irs-says-treasury-has-cancelled-outstanding-stimulus-checks-issued-to-dead

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IRS says Treasury has cancelled outstanding stimulus checks issued ...
The Treasury Department has cancelled some coronavirus relief payments sent to deceased individuals, the IRS said.
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[14-Jul-20 09:19 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://i.redd.it/70mtjpwzzqa51.jpg
> it's big brain time
@byte[]  trumpist wrote that

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[14-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
reeeeee


[14-Jul-20 09:29 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[14-Jul-20 09:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Never mind that Kevorkian's famous because he believed he *was* using his abilities for good, despite what OP thinks


[14-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
Mengele is the odd one out Kevorkian was helping terminally ill end their suffering


[14-Jul-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but I suppose if the idea of hospice care at any expense and despite the patient's wishes is somehow more ethical to you than that, then sure, he's a monster


[14-Jul-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll be honest, having seen hospice from inside and out, it's a *horror show*


[14-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Honahue#0656
doing everything you can to eek out the most amount of minutes in someone life despite those minutes being painful is caring


[14-Jul-20 09:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pain is just your body releasing the money


[14-Jul-20 09:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, you think nursing homes are notorious for abuse and uncaring, untrained nurses? Hospice care is where all the ones who flunk out of *that* go. Whether you wind up with a nurse who actually cares or not, the standards of care for hospice are designed to treat the dying like a burden


[14-Jul-20 09:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(Note that training and standards are not the same thing)


[14-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
feels like this is one of those things that should take priority on high automation.


[14-Jul-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what exactly would you automate about end-of-life care once it's gone past the point of palliative care?


[14-Jul-20 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/tsjzOCSnZes

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[14-Jul-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507293-trump-administration-rescinds-policy-to-strip-visas-from-foreign

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Trump administration rescinds foreign students rule
The Trump administration on Tuesday rescinded a policy that would have stripped visas from international students whose courses move exclusively online amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[14-Jul-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/507301-epa-forced-to-reconsider-new-york-efforts-to-tame-downwind

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EPA ordered to reconsider New York efforts to tame downwind pollution
A three-judge panel chastised the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Tuesday, siding with states who had sued to agency to do more to battle cross-state pollution.
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[14-Jul-20 10:16 PM] wren#0114
interesting essay on conformity: http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html


[14-Jul-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Expect them to try again in a month or two (re: visas)

The nightmares with this administration never end


[14-Jul-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
>Paul Graham


[14-Jul-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
Eh, this one is fine


[14-Jul-20 10:18 PM] byte[]#2610
But he has had some really historically garbage takes


[14-Jul-20 10:18 PM] wren#0114
I don't know much about him


[14-Jul-20 10:18 PM] wren#0114
that article was a good think


[14-Jul-20 10:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> When I was 18 years old I worked at this fancy beach hotel, I did a lot there from waitress to receptionist... we had all sort of local fresh fish to serve at the restaurant and yet people would often want the salmon who'd come from far away been already frozen and old because it's the 'fancy' name
& best of all they have no way of proving the salmon they're eating isnt the one locally. just slap some fancy name on them & charge a premium :chryslaugh:


[14-Jul-20 10:37 PM] Honahue#0656
literally the story behind Peruvian Sea Bass, that's the marketting name for some kinda toothfish


[14-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
toothfish just doesn't sound as appitizing


[14-Jul-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
foodies dumb


[14-Jul-20 10:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue i wished ppl market bugs better :ts_cry:


[14-Jul-20 10:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I honestly like cheap mass produced foods better than expensive ones


[14-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
land lobster


[14-Jul-20 10:39 PM] jlun2#8758
i keep reading well meaning, but socially inept scientists in clickbait
SCIENTIST WANTS YOU TO EAT WORMS
& i go "you morons are doing it wrong smh :facepaw:"


[14-Jul-20 10:40 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-used-us-intel-sharing-to-pursue-chechnya-dissidents-sources-2020-7

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Russia used Trump's intelligence sharing to try to assassinate Chec...
Three European intelligence sources told Insider that Russia has been trying to extract information on its targets from Western agencies.
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[14-Jul-20 10:40 PM] jlun2#8758
most ppl dont care if worms are a superfood since bugphobia. name it something else


[14-Jul-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
scientists out of touch :sadface:


[14-Jul-20 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Jul-20 11:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Certified Ben Garrison moment
Who the fuck are these people


[14-Jul-20 11:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
Even I can't say.


[14-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I recognize Dankula and that's it


[14-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ganon


[14-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i've heard of carpe donktum and i've watched the thug life vids


[15-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doZE4Yqog5I

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joker source: https://youtu.be/x2YLS80Nmls?t=455 at 7:35

real source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKEz7_TlTZA

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[15-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Love him or hate him he's spitting straight facts


[15-Jul-20 12:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[15-Jul-20 12:23 AM] wren#0114
literally me

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[15-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Happy Bastille Day everyone


[15-Jul-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://apnews.com/38b6562b7aaa73ea66fb72b06472e05d

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BOSTON (AP) — Facing eight federal lawsuits and opposition from hundreds of universities, the Trump administration on Tuesday rescinded a rule that would have required international students to...
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[15-Jul-20 01:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[15-Jul-20 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fucking people's shit up since 1932

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[15-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/507381-law-school-graduates-worried-about-security-privacy-of-online-bar-exam

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Law school graduates worried about security, privacy of online bar ...
Thousands of law school graduates are gearing up to take the bar exam online this year as the COVID-19 pandemic hinders plans to hold the test in person.
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[15-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`“There are just so many questions when you have testing surveillance software that is going to allow proctors to peer into the homes and in many cases the bedrooms and intimate spaces of test takers,” Davisson said. “What data is it collecting? Is it only collecting what data is necessary for proctoring purposes...how the data is being stored, whether it is going to be kept secured, who has access to it?”`


[15-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/507337-ginsburg-hospitalized-with-possible-infection

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Ginsburg hospitalized with possible infection
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was hospitalized on Tuesday for treatment for a possible infection after experiencing fever and chills, according to a Supreme Court spokeswoman.
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[15-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
welp


[15-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
From Biden's site

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[15-Jul-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow when the survival and livelihood of numerous queer and trans people depends on a single octagenarian with recurrent health issues, you know it's a normal country :D


[15-Jul-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
"The administration orders hospitals to bypass the C.D.C. with key virus data, alarming health experts."


[15-Jul-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
from <https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/coronavirus-update.html#link-23324a9f>


[15-Jul-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-inject-disinfectant-white-house-press-briefing-kayleigh-mcenany-a9618831.html

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[15-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[], I think you meant to link this one <https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/coronavirus-update.html#link-47bd459f>


[15-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
> The Trump administration has ordered hospitals to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and, beginning on Wednesday, send all coronavirus patient information to a central database in Washington — a move that has alarmed public health experts who fear the data will be distorted for political gain.
> 
> The new instructions are contained in a little-noticed document posted this week on the Department of Health and Human Services’ website, Sheryl Gay Stolberg reports. From now on, H.H.S., and not the C.D.C., will collect daily reports about the patients that each hospital is treating, how many beds and ventilators are available, and other information vital to tracking the pandemic.


[15-Jul-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, I copied the wrong link


[15-Jul-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I hate these NYT megathreads because I can't link to anything separately


[15-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Crow#5457
yeah


[15-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282483254357098496

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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282483254357098496
My mom got a pulse oximeter.

She asked me to put a mask on and check to see how my blood oxygen lowers.

I put a mask on at 98% oxygenation, and it stayed at 98% while I told her that as a former nurse she should fucking know better.
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[15-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282483603071545344

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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282483603071545344
She took tests on this stuff. She had thick textbooks on this stuff. She got hired to know this stuff. She got paid to know this stuff. She worked with people who spent hours wearing masks.

Youtube literally wiped out 15+ years of being a medical professional.
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[15-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Honahue#0656
CO2 can build up in scuba gear but a mask isn't doing the same thing as a regulator


[15-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282486747444772865

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‏بوكيبلينكي (@pookleblinky)
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282486747444772865
I cannot overstate that she was an RN. She took college courses, she got hired, she got paid, to understand the basics of modern medicine. She's smelled C Diff. She's intubated people. She's kept charts.

All of that knowledge and experience is gone.
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[15-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Crow#5457
(this is a long thread)


[15-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
even if it did the advice would be the same, exhale longer than you inhale


[15-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get how people seem to think that masks somehow restrict airflow to the point your oxygenation level falls


[15-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
I have  done this while scuba diving and the headaches they aren't fun and wearing a mask has never giving me the same problem


[15-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282487553560653824

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‏بوكيبلينكي (@pookleblinky)
https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1282487553560653824
And this is someone who was *paid* to understand basic shit about human health.

Imagine what youtube autoplay is doing to boomers with no medical degree or experience.
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[15-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.axios.com/china-iran-investment-deal-oil-infrastructure-c919646d-2ece-4ee5-bfd7-c8a16a7f53b0.html

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China-Iran deal envisions massive investments from Beijing
Will China rely place a $400 billion bet?
https://images.axios.com/ki6oWr0XtJ-aZjjxQSs_4flWm10=/fit-in/1366x1366/2020/07/13/1594683456321.jpg


[15-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
well then, we certainly know who's gonna be allied with each other in the next world war


[15-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Crow#5457
china-iran-russia


[15-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
I suspect a lot of the same people complaining are the same people that 5 years ago where wearing the "altitude masks" doing CrossFit WOD


[15-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
altitude masks do actually help though


[15-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
iirc they don't help so much in the same way actually training at altitude helps, but they do strengthen your respiratory muscles


[15-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://trainright.com/do-altitude-training-masks-work-for-endurance-athletes/

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CTS
https://trainright.com/do-altitude-training-masks-work-for-endurance-athletes/
Do Altitude Training Masks Work for Endurance Athletes? - CTS
By now you have no doubt seen athletes running around, lifting weights, or even riding around at sea level or moderate elevations with altitude training masks. The idea is to simulate the hypoxic condition of exercising at altitude (about 5,000 feet above sea level and higher).
https://trainright.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/altitudemask.jpg


[15-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
apparently even altitude training isn't effective if you don't live for months/years at the same altitude


[15-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
part of altitude training for cardio is that you live at altitude an hour or 2 a day vs 24 hours doesn't seem like enough to change the red blood cell count


[15-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's what the article says


[15-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
don't see anyone wearing them anymore so I suspect it was just a fad


[15-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
one thing I do know they're useful for is for people who have sleep apnea


[15-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Crow#5457
strengthening the respiratory muscles seems to cure sleep apnea


[15-Jul-20 04:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/BLaw/status/1283154923551694858

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BREAKING: Justice Ginsburg was hospitalized for a possible infection after experiencing fever and chills, U.S. Supreme Court says. https://t.co/O46rYUaPiX
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[15-Jul-20 04:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Shitstorm incoming.


[15-Jul-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Yep


[15-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
I just linked that an hour ago :reppy::reppy::reppy:


[15-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1282904145247248384

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Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo)
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1282904145247248384
Antifa in Portland track down and accost a random Asian male who they accuse of being Andy Ngo. https://t.co/E4VaALXlah
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[15-Jul-20 04:29 AM] jlun2#8758
> She is the second female justice (after Sandra Day O'Connor) of four to be confirmed to the court
she's going to be replaced by some white dude whos like the complete opposite right


[15-Jul-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Probably


[15-Jul-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She should have retired when Obama was president tbh


[15-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Honahue#0656
at the time people were pretty sure the US had seen it's last Republican president


[15-Jul-20 04:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lol, she'll die right before the election and the Republicans will force Trump's nominee through.
Democrats will bitch and moan every step of the way about how hypocritical it is.


[15-Jul-20 04:32 AM] jlun2#8758
> at the time people were pretty sure the US had seen it's last Republican president
:wheeze:

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[15-Jul-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I have no idea what the future of the GOP is after Trump

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[15-Jul-20 04:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Cocaine Mitch is a shrewd man.
It was a jackass stunt to hold off the nomination until after the election, but it was an amazing political calculation on his part because it gave Republicans a reason to vote for Trump.


[15-Jul-20 04:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
`She should have retired when Obama was president tbh`
She was old even back then. You'd think she'd *want* to retire at her age. She intends to work until she drops dead, ffs.


[15-Jul-20 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/humanity-is-doomed-ted-cruz-burger-king-sustainable-whopper-2020-7

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Ted Cruz says 'humanity is doomed' in response to Burger King's new...
Burger King's introduction of a more sustainable Whopper has failed to impress Sen. Ted Cruz.
https://i.insider.com/5f0e1f373ad86118565762d7?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Jul-20 04:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god! Not a cow diet change! Humanity is on death's door because of this! :ts_cry:


[15-Jul-20 04:49 AM] wren#0114
imagine fearing for your life over cow farts


[15-Jul-20 04:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-primary-runoffs-mj-hegar-vs-royce-west-live-results-2020-7

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MJ Hegar clinches the Democratic nomination to face GOP Sen. John C...
Hegar, a former Air Force pilot and 2018 US House candidate, defeated State Senator Royce West in the hotly-contested runoff.
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[15-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1283047321509470209

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REPORT: Virus is stable in air: once airborne, SARS-CoV-2 retains ability to infect for at least 16 hrs

It's hardier in aerosols than SARS-1 or MERS

This helps explain why airborne route could be major culprit

Wear masks, distance, ventilate buildings

https://t.co/8zvADRf...
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[15-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Crow#5457
> Damn, this means someone who sneezes indoors at 8 AM could sicken someone at midnight!


[15-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/HeartlandWX/status/1283030755808092162

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@BurgerKing Funny how the air out here in cattle country is never smoggy or hazardous...but by all means keep demonizing animal agriculture. 

Get this load of crap off the internet
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[15-Jul-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
A thing being a problem in one place means you are never allowed to criticize different problems ever -Twitter users


[15-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/30rj3hzr1vx21.png

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[15-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So wait


[15-Jul-20 05:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/minimum-wage-workers-cannot-afford-rent-in-any-us-state.html

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Minimum wage workers cannot afford rent in any U.S. state
Full-time minimum wage workers cannot afford a two-bedroom rental anywhere in the U.S. and cannot afford a one-bedroom rental in 95% of U.S. counties, according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition's annual "Out of Reach" report.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106615555-1594739863418cooking-in-progress-in-the-kitchen_t20_8brdyq.jpg?v=1594739919


[15-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Serenity#9645
has it really changed that much in a little over 3 years? i stayed in a 1 bedroom apartment by myself for 300$ a month working part time at mcdonalds for 7.25 a hour and going to collage it was less pay and more expensive then germany but that just seems kinda odd that full time workers with benefits cant do it at all anymore


[15-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Honahue#0656
>min wage
>benefits


[15-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Serenity#9645
full time workers are entiled to benifits, i was told all the benifits i wouldnt receive being part time


[15-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
> In fact, the average minimum wage worker in the U.S. would need to work almost 97 hours per week to afford a fair market rate two-bedroom and 79 hours per week to afford a one-bedroom, NLIHC calculates. That’s well over two full-time jobs just to be able to afford a two-bedroom rental.


[15-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
the pandemic caused everything to accelerate


[15-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Serenity#9645
i kinda want to doubt it would be that bad and its spun in the worst light as us media usually does, but the us is kinda fucked anyway so i wont completely doubt it


[15-Jul-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Cities are such I overpriced shitholes. I'm glad I don't have to live in one.

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[15-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a huge number of unemployed right now, that's going to drive wages down


[15-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Hopefully Ginsberg will be replaced by Amy Coney Barrett.


[15-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Pontology#1010
So we don't have another "white dude", since apparently genitals matter in upholding the constitution.


[15-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Amy Coney Barrett was on Trump's shortlist of four possible nominees from which he chose Kavanaugh. If Ginsberg croaks, she's a likely pick.


[15-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SCOTUS picks are never, ever about that.


[15-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You pick the biggest ideologue that can rationalize their beliefs and will protect what you want.


[15-Jul-20 05:44 AM] Pontology#1010
They shouldn't be, and yet people kvetch about the immutable characteristics of justices. I was responding to someone above who was kvetching about how Ginsberg may be replaced by a "white dude".


[15-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If SCOTUS picks were about upholding the constitution, both parties wouldn't get their shortlists from activist groups for their respective ideological wings


[15-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh, that's what you meant.


[15-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president doesn't "pick" the SCOTUS justices anymore than you say, "pick" what is made at McDonald's when you go to order.


[15-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, turns out that the federalist society is the society that upholds the constitution :smug_donk:


[15-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The last time a president tried to pick a SCOTUS justice on his own volition, his own party stopped him.


[15-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Pontology#1010
upholding the constitution = textualism and originalism, interpreting words in the plain meaning as they meant when they were written.
Imo.


[15-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one actually believes the Constitution is dead. Textualists pretend, but will make it living when it suits them. Living documenters never have the false badge of "it is what it says"


[15-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(The person I was talking about was GW Bush trying to appoint Harriet Miers, his personal attorney. Which would be like Trump trying to appoint Giuliani or if Obama had tried to appoint Robert Bauer, his personal attorney)


[15-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Pontology#1010
huh


[15-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cow burps > cow farts


[15-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fossil fuel usage > both


[15-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Burger King is just doing a publicity stunt.


[15-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop clearcutting the Amazon and charge $20 for a pound of beef like it should be


[15-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd do far, far more if they switched their vehicles to electric.


[15-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Pontology#1010
unbased, car farts = methane and help accelerate global warming 28x more than CO2
(this is a joke)


[15-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all their lights to LEDs.


[15-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know what would be the best for basically all fast food


[15-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I still don't get _why_ progressives want to introduce a new social construct of nonbinary. What's the motivation? It has nothing to do with minority rights.


[15-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No in person restaurants at all


[15-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I will never understand why a proud bigot would even bother with a show like MLP or browse websites related to it.


[15-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Serenity#9645
the most interesting thing ive heard about that whole thing is the global warming vs global dimming arguement


[15-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
electric semi's are further off than Tesla would like to advertise, maybe for last mile trucking but not so much long distance


[15-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everything is delivered from nearby basically commissary kitchens


[15-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At most, a pickup window


[15-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Honahue#0656
why are you so interested in preserving a gender binary?


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Why are you so interested in changing it?


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Honahue#0656
cause it's needless


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Serenity to corrupt it and catch people who otherwise wouldn't become bigots.


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Pontology#1010
The social construct of "nonbinary" is needless


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sex is a two-humped curve.


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling it binary is baseless.


[15-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a binary *trigger*.


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That trigger is literally just a DNA pakket that givs you balls.


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Huh? Sex is binary and there are rare intersex conditions, like XXY chromosomes.


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then the testosterone does further triggering.


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chromosomes are only a trigger for having balls.


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont understand what you just tried to tell me could you rephrase?


[15-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Y chromosome does very little.


[15-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Serenity a bigot does their best fishing for people to join them in somewhere with a milquetoast anti-bigot message.


[15-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Pontology#1010
males produce sperm, women produce eggs. Some people have rare intersex conditions like hermaphroditism.


[15-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
not that rare and every concept of what make a man or a women are social constructs as much as anything else, what we call manly now wasn't always


[15-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
FiM isn't that strong with its anti-bigotry message (other than like, 2 episodes)


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Focusing on hermaphroditism is focusing on genitals, but the sexual dimorphism of other features is the entire social point.


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Clothing covers up your genitals most of the time in human interaction.


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
All the stuff that really matters to society is just hormone-based.


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont think were talking about global warming with that statement anymore


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue Yes. My question is, why introduce a new social construct of "nonbinary".


[15-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Pontology#1010
If you don't like gender stereotypes, you don't reinforce them with more genders.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Pontology#1010
I just genuinely don't understand why progressives want this.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Honahue#0656
cause they don't want to be defined by the binary which is artificial but most people still only understant things that way


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, I pinged the wrong person, mixed up lines.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
I meant @Marches[45]


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Pontology#1010
But "nonbinary" is itself artificial. It all is.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Serenity#9645
ok i was so confused XD


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Binary is a social construct.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Pontology#1010
At least biological "male" and "female" are not artificial.


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, the actual things we care about in interaction


[15-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
those are the two humps


[15-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the genitals.


[15-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The genitals trigger the two humps but not entirely.


[15-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. So why reinforce gender stereotypes by saying that XY people on the female side of the social-interaction hump are nonbinary instead of male?


[15-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure what that's really saying.


[15-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Serenity#9645
ive been cussed out for saying id tell the ambulence that the person was trans instead of a real x


[15-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would just make more sense to say tomboy.


[15-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes.


[15-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Pontology#1010
So if you want to "abolish gender" or something, why reinforce gender?


[15-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't get too hung up on the terminology.


[15-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not criticizing per se, I just genuinely don't understand the motivation


[15-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
What if there isn't one, and people are just fumbling trying to shake bad societal structures by any means necessary?


[15-Jul-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/07/13/jos-cervical-cancer-charity-trans-non-binary-smear-test-intersex-transphobia-gender-identity/
Don't really read pinknews, so I'm hoping that this article is exagerrated.

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Jo's Cervical Cancer Trust says that "everyone with a cervix" should have access to support and smear tests, including trans and non-binary people.
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[15-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It looks like a pretty straightforward thing.


[15-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a male has a cervix, screen him.


[15-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't want the rare case of that denied for no reason.


[15-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Pontology#1010
That was my suspicion, just fumbling destruction of normative ideas.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't giv a shit what your gender or whatever is, only whether you hav a cervix.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Twitter users using a hashtag about GENDER MEANS CERVIX is unhelpful at best.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's a poor reason to shut down a cancer research center's charity in any case.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Only biological females get cervical cancer.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "shuts down" is metaphorical.


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
someone didn't read the article~!


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Pontology#1010
And possibly intersex.


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were shutting down an *argument*.


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not an *organization*.


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Pontology#1010
We should have different words for sex and gender, like "female" vs "woman". A lot of this is just verbal confusion.


[15-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Crow#5457
> Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust says “everyone with a cervix” should have access to support and information about cervical cancer and smear tests, including trans and non-binary people, after a disgusting Twitter campaign by transphobes.


[15-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Change the definitions of common words, people get confused about what words mean, what a surprise.


[15-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female

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[15-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Females produce eggs.


[15-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Only females get cervical cancer :shrug:


[15-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Pontology#1010
female ≠ woman


[15-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Pontology#1010
If you want a distinction between sex and gender, then have that distinction. "Female" vs "woman" is what language is veering toward, given wikipedia articles on those two words.


[15-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
I've never seen anyone on the transgender rights side say female = woman


[15-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah


[15-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Except for twitter idiots, of course.


[15-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Then what was wrong with the phrase "Only females get cervical cancer" in that article?


[15-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Pontology#1010
It calls it a "disgustingly transphobic lie".


[15-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm sick of the language confusion.


[15-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
because there doesn't seem to be a solid unified replacement term structure (yet)


[15-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If male refers to gender then someone could be outwardly male but hav a cervix and whatnot.


[15-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And even if it's about sex, sex change operation might leave part of the cervix in.


[15-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to limit getting cervical cancer screening to people who are female, instead of people with cervixes, is thus not great.


[15-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
One can only assume that the motivation behind it is to lash out at people who aren't "normal".


[15-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is highly unhelpful when trying to hook people up with medical resources.


[15-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Or to push back against those trying to destroy words, using them contra to their wikipedia definitions.


[15-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Serenity#9645
i think its more about having a solid term that defines it clearly then having to make a sentence to describe it because the word has changed


[15-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I think it's like this. People strongly dislike traditional gender roles, for whole mess of reasons, many of which are legit. Well how do you shake it? You can redefine what the words mean, or you can replace them.


[15-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
destroy the symbol, and the substance will deteriorate.


[15-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Opponent#3498
it's... Not the most productive approach probably but the most intuitive one. A form of protest action.


[15-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Pontology#1010
So destroy the definitions of "man" and "woman"


[15-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Good luck with that. You're trying to fight biological reality.


[15-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
no. The fight's against societal norms, first and foremost. Even when we get purely vat-grown babies (not if, I'm not doubting the time will come) the biological basis of humans will not change (without significant overhauling)


[15-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Societal norms like what? Housewives are a thing of the past. Everyone works now.


[15-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Serenity#9645
but will it turn out like the definition of racism? "a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles" that tells me nothing what about "a political or social system founded on racism" also means nothing and yes thats merriam-webster and it confuses the hell out of me


[15-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
the idea, like you and others said earlier, is to decouple female and woman, male and man. Biological and societal.


[15-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Most medical students are women, soon to be most doctors. Most college graduates are women.


[15-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
This all happened before this assault on the definitions of words.


[15-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well the 'why's better left for people more familiar with western realities than me. As for the rest of the world, it's really not that simple or that positive out there.


[15-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Serenity#9645
the definition of racism literally uses the word racism in it to define it that just hurts my brain


[15-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[15-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
The communists in China tried to change gender norms by introducing artificial gender pronouns. Chinese naturally has just a gender-neutral third-person singular.


[15-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
circular logic is the best.


[15-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
I think it's very telling that they did the exact opposite of what our "intellectuals" are doing, thinking that changing words will somehow help.


[15-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Pontology#1010
We're trying to introduce a nonbinary pronoun, the CPC introduced gendered pronouns.


[15-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Honahue#0656
it doesn't that's idealism but no one wants to tackle the real problem of gender inequality but in the mean time it doesn't cost anything to call someone their prefered pronouns


[15-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Pontology#1010
@Serenity Racism is becoming like sin, a circular definition.


[15-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Pontology#1010
To be fair, the dictionary definition has other definitions, and that definition may reference the other definitions.


[15-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Pontology#1010
But it still has that potential for a circular definition, and that circular definition is the one used by people who say things about "institutional racism".


[15-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Serenity#9645
but its seperated meaning its a seperate definition, not a call back. you might have a car 1. a vehicle with wheels 2. a passenger compartment


[15-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody really knows what racism is. Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 different definitions. The google definition is especially laughable.


[15-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Pontology#1010
It's because people increasingly try to define "racism" as the belief that races are different, which they are. The whole thing is comical.


[15-Jul-20 06:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just because ten people are gonna give different definitions doesn't mean none of them will be historically correct


[15-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Serenity#9645
a elevator is a car, but it doesnt have wheels. racisum is racial prejudice or discrimination, but its also a political or social system founded on.....?


[15-Jul-20 06:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To me, racism is a hierarchizing ideology that toes in line with class prejudice


[15-Jul-20 06:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And prejudice means a generalizing belief or notion that squares minorities and "alien" groups into specific behavioral patterns and places along social and economic production


[15-Jul-20 06:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Disassociate racism from that sociological basis and what you get is the usual, contrived individualist drivel


[15-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Serenity#9645
see i can understand that definition but you cant see, a political or social system founded on "looks up racism" a political or social system founded on "looks up..." ect ect


[15-Jul-20 06:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym


[15-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think it's the only circular definition in the dictionary. Pretty sure I've seen others.


[15-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Pontology#1010
And mind you, the whole dictionary is circular.


[15-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Abstract language is a self-referential network


[15-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Pontology#1010
The word "racism" has been pretty much meaningless for a long time.


[15-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Pontology#1010
I never use it. I always specifically use "racially discriminatory" or whatever I specifically mean.


[15-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Opponent#3498
more accurate, certainly.


[15-Jul-20 06:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I use it as a denominator for people i don't like only when it's very clear they're being that tbh


[15-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Hm, you don't say :laughfilly:


[15-Jul-20 06:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As much as i try to be considerate in using the word "capitalist"


[15-Jul-20 06:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But both are generally quite widespread ideologically, both consciously and subconsciously


[15-Jul-20 06:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That being said i don't very often interact with racist people irl or online, so i might be inexperienced in dealing with them


[15-Jul-20 06:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I've little doubt I'm among whom you'd consider racist.


[15-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Pontology#1010
You don't have to answer that :laughfilly:


[15-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Pontology#1010
I still like you. You're a good token commie.


[15-Jul-20 06:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh


[15-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think... racism is better seen as something one does, rather than something one is.

We're all capable of doing racist things, but we're also capable of learning and cutting that crap out. So I think looking at someone as "a racist" as an immutable quality of their character might be too absolute.


[15-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Pontology#1010
I like that. I'm sure I'm sure BadgingBadger ("everyone") would consider my beliefs racist, but I certainly don't racially discriminate. I deeply value my friends of all races and creeds, certainly never use racial slurs. It's interpersonally that things matter most.


[15-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Would you mind elaborating on what you believe?


[15-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Pontology#1010
That race is real, first of all. This is a principal component analysis of the human genome showing distinct genetic ("racial") clusters.

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[15-Jul-20 07:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Generally i feel like racism has a lot to do with class -- it is more likely for working class people to be convinced out of their racism as they realize the necessity of class solidarity and organization. Upper class people, otoh, have no incentive to drop their beliefs


[15-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Pontology#1010
And that different races have statistically different "racial characters" for lack of a better term in predisposition, that I emphasize are only bell curves – it is very wrong and fallacious to make an assumption about anyone on the basis of race. But these things manifest in large-scale societal patterns.


[15-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Pontology#1010
Only averages.


[15-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Pontology#1010
That east-asians out-earn and out-perform whites has a significant racial component.


[15-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Pontology#1010
IQ is mostly genetic.


[15-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I don't think anyone's saying it isn't real. Certainly there are physiological differences, but I think it's more that it's not particularly important as far as determining what sort of person you'll be. 

As I understand, the belief that race is intrinsically tied to intelligence is largely discredited as pseudoscientific. This isn't a feelings argument, mind you; I'm going by the mainstream scientific consensus on the matter.


[15-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Genetics is intrinsically tied to intelligence. https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104

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[15-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Pontology#1010
And different races have different average IQ's.


[15-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Pontology#1010
(Source: Vox, a left-wing source. They, of course, say there's no good reason to believe it's genetic.)


[15-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Considering 
(a) that different races have different average IQ's
(b) that IQ has a significant genetic component
(c) the statistics of this with such large sample sizes, including cross-culturally and with immigrants in foreign countries of different types (e.g. east-asians in Malaysia, etc)


[15-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010
And that races are indeed distinct genetic clusters


[15-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I cannot dismiss it. Occam's razor demands it.


[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What we've seen over time, though, is the IQ gap has gotten smaller. Which makes sense, given the historical, cultural, and socioeconomic factors that have historically disadvantaged certain groups of people (and I would say, continue to do this today, just not to the same extent)

The IQ gap today is smaller than it used to be, and has been trending closer over time.


[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
the study has absolutely nothing to do with IQ


[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Recent studies might point to the possibility of the genetic makeup of a person being mutable tho


[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2019/04/poverty-leaves-a-mark-on-our-genes/

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Study’s findings challenge understandings of genes as fixed features of our biology
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[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
IQ != intelligence


[15-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/iq-tests-are-fundamentally-flawed-and-using-them-alone-to-measure-intelligence-is-a-fallacy-study-8425911.html

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IQ tests are 'fundamentally flawed' and using them alone to measure
Results cast into doubt tests that have been used to link cognitive ability to race, gender and class
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/12/19/18/IQGETTY.jpg


[15-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is also true. IQ is an imperfect way of measuring intelligence as it is, but even *using* that metric, the IQ gap has been shrinking, not growing or remaining stagnant.


[15-Jul-20 07:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way i believe the importance of genes on sociological patterns is being way too overblown recently


[15-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010
IQ isn't perfect but it's the most statistically sound thing in all of psychology, higher correlation coefficients than anything else.


[15-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean, that article isn't wrong. Of course IQ isn't sufficient to capture all the differences in cognitive ability we see between people. IQ is a one-dimensional projection.


[15-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In the 60s, the black-white IQ gap was an average of 15 points. Today, it's about 10 points. Considering that society is still very much *not* equal (but more equal than it was during Jim Crow), I think that's significant.


[15-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Jews have been heavily persecuted for centuries. They made astounding contributions to mathematics, physics, etc despite that persecution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

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Whether Ashkenazi Jews have higher average intelligence than other ethnic groups, and if so, why, has been an occasional subject of scientific controversy.   
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[15-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Pontology#1010
I could be wrong. But occam's razor, my default hypothesis is what I said.


[15-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Honahue#0656
the Jewish religion is about reading the Torah critically which shares many similarities with academia. so they're basically doing college like readings of ancient liturature all their lives


[15-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
So do Muslims, you know.


[15-Jul-20 07:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jews have been persecuted but their social position was different from, say, African-Americans from the eighteenth century


[15-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Pontology#1010
One of the reasons Jews kept getting expelled from countries was that they climbed the social ladder to the top, which requires intelligence.


[15-Jul-20 07:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their place in society focused on banking and lending and economic activities, whereas PoC were enslaved to do manual labor. There *might* be an explanation in that


[15-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Pontology#1010
They percolate to the top in seemingly every society they're in.


[15-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, that's an environmental difference, not a genetic one. And again, the trend over time toward the mean is important. If society continues to become more egalitarian, we could see the gap go from 10 to 5, or even from 5 to 0.


[15-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Regression towards the mean is a fundamental theorem of statistics, but what you said assumes the means are the same. As soon as the racial laws against east-asians were lifted, they sky-rocketed to the social standing they have now. They were redlined just like blacks, prohibited from owning land in California because they weren't white, etc.


[15-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure, there was also high immigration, I get there are other factors.


[15-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, but there's a reason for that. An very specific environmental reason.


[15-Jul-20 07:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> They percolate to the top in seemingly every society they're in.
@Pontology  mostly, European Jews were frequently sought after by kings and nobles back in the days of forming capitalism to do usury, something Christians were morally unable to do


[15-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.rider.edu/news/2019/06/24/rider-professor-questions-accuracy-iq-test-analysis

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Rider professor questions accuracy of IQ test analysis
The approach to interpreting IQ tests is fundamentally flawed, according to research conducted by Dr. Stefan Dombrowski, a professor in Rider University's school psychology program. “It’s not that the IQ tests are inherently bad or wrong — it’s the interpretive approach that’s...
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[15-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
east asians were never brought to the US as chattel slave


[15-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When the Chinese Exclusion Act was lifted, most Asians who immigrated to the U.S. were educated, wealthy families who could *afford* to move here. Suffice to say, the Asians who were upwardly mobile enough to move to the U.S. are *not* a random sample of Asian people.


[15-Jul-20 07:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Are asian people a random sample of asian people? There's a reason Japan is just about the safest, most prosperous country in the world. That China has skyrocketed to its position today in research, academia, infrastructure after their "century of humiliation" of colonialism and then Maoist self-destruction.


[15-Jul-20 07:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Africa is also rising back tho


[15-Jul-20 07:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ethiopia is making quite a name for itself, for example. Even Rwanda of all places is getting better by the day


[15-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Pontology#1010
If Africa ever becomes safe, prosperous, and academically relevant in research contributions, I will admit I was wrong about everything.


[15-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Sunnyside#3103
> east asians were never brought to the US as chattel slave
@Honahue 
i bet there's a lot of chinese laborers in 19th century California that'd argue that point.


[15-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
basically, even if the IQ test is "most statistically sound thing" we have, and even if we ignore the fundamental flaws in IQ tests, the people who interpret IQ tests are also flawed and often misinterpret IQ test results based on their own biases


[15-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Honahue#0656
chattel slavery and indentured servitude aren't the same, you get to stop being a servent eventually


[15-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
there weren't raids by european ships to imprison asians against their will and then use violence to force them to work while making it literally illegal to teach them how to read and write


[15-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
literacy is a required to even take an IQ test to begin with


[15-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Ethiopia is a good test case. It was never even colonized. Unfortunately, they still have their disgusting version of Islam where 98% of women there are circumcised, among other things.


[15-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
does that mean everyone who's illiterate has no intelligence?


[15-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
the claim that IQ = intelligence falls apart right then and there btw


[15-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Raven's progressive matrices don't require literacy, only pattern recognition


[15-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
It's still true that IQ is 30-50% environmental, according to wiki.


[15-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
A large part of which isn't education, but nutrition.


[15-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
CEO, I want to ask...

Regardless of your opinions on these supposed inherent differences, do you believe governments should *do* anything based on that belief? Like, ban certain races from immigrating or prohibit mixed-race dating or anything like that. I'm not trying to be accusatory, I just want to get a feel for what you actually think.


[15-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
the article you keep linking has nothing to do with IQ tests, if anything I'm willing to bet that there are many people who have the genes that predict high intelligence who won't perform well on an IQ test


[15-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Cloppershy#6322
The study you linked says that intelligence is 50% heritable based on twin studies, 25% has been explained based on DNA analysis, and 10% can be explained by a combination of concrete genes (which the paper is actually about).


[15-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
... raven's progressive matrices isn't an IQ test


[15-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Pontology#1010
@Dr. Mechano Racial discrimination within a country is very wrong. Borders are different, and nation-states have every right to discriminate in immigration policy on the basis of race/ethnicity if they want. E.g. there is nothing wrong with admitting only people with the right DNA into your country. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-high-court-allows-dna-testing-to-prove-judaism-1.8439615

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[15-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody has a "right" to emigrate to a certain country.


[15-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see. I think that, while having qualifications for entry is fine, unchoosen factors like race or sex shouldn't be considered.


[15-Jul-20 07:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
National elites don't (or shouldn't) have a "right" to erect border fences either, imo


[15-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
America especially has 0 cause everyone except the Native Americans are immigrans often violent


[15-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
America is not a nation-state.


[15-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
What I say applies to nation-states. E.g. Japan has every right to admit only ethnic-Japanese.


[15-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But they don't.


[15-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Japan has non-Asian citizens. It's a very small number. But they do exist.


[15-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Very few countries are "true" ethnostates, even oft-cited examples like Japan.


[15-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and they shouldn't be persecuted within the country.


[15-Jul-20 07:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i honestly think nation-states are a stupid idea, especially under capitalism and if the nation-state's "ethnic" birthrate fails to keep up with economic expectations


[15-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Not persecuting their non-asian citizens is distinct from having an immigration policy that preserves their nation-state.


[15-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but Japan does not have any clause about race in their immigration policy is what I'm saying. It's literally not part of their laws.


[15-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.un.org/press/en/2013/gashc4085.doc.htm


[15-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Immigrating to Japan is very difficult, I'm just saying race isn't listed as a requirement.


[15-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Nation-states are the natural manifestation of the UN's declaration of self-determination as a basic human right.


[15-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Native American reservations have semi-autonomy to give them a degree of self-determination. If they accepted people not from their tribe into the reservation, the natives of that tribe would eventually lose their self-determination once they became a minority in their reservation.


[15-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Same thing applies to nation-states.


[15-Jul-20 07:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That does not excuse genocide and ethnic cleansing though


[15-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Of course not. That falls under "persecution within the country", which is wrong.


[15-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
See... To me, that's the wrong way to look at it. I don't see people of my race and people of other races in such an us-and-them way, where I'm either worried about being replaced by someone or think that I myself will replace someone else. 

My "us" is my friends, family, and colleagues and my "them" is everyone else. I think identifying with people simply on the basis of race is foolish, since internal commonalities (hobbies, interests, personality, etc.) is much more substantive.


[15-Jul-20 07:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For "aterritorial" minorities like the Romani ("Gypsies"), for example, things become quite fickle


[15-Jul-20 07:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austromarxism
I generally would be happy if the world were to follow this principle instead as it is inclusive rather than exclusive in its basis for national and cultural identity

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[15-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Pontology#1010
@Dr. Mechano That's right and is of course true interpersonally. But the national level is different from the interpersonal level. If Japan had massive Muslim immigration and became majority-Muslim, it would be a culturally and politically radically different place regardless of the fidelity of ethnic-Japs with their Muslim friends.


[15-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I have no objection to Japan's immigration bylaws because they do not specify race. They're very strict and, in practice, don't let too many non-Asian people in.

But theoretically, that doesn't stop the non-Asian people who are there already (as well as future immigrants) from interbreeding and gradually, over time, becoming a bigger part of the population. Japan knows and allows this.


[15-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Really, I think I'd have a true objection if a country outright said "no black people" or "no white people" or "no Asians" or whatever in those explicit, hardline terms. If a nationstate wants tight immigration that's fine, but the metrics shouldn't be (and usually aren't, even in very homogenous countries) based on race.


[15-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Not to go on too much of a tangent, but what makes the USA not a nationstate while Japan is?


[15-Jul-20 07:47 AM] Antagonista#8566
No titular nation.


[15-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Pontology#1010
A nation-state is a nation that is the nation of an ethnicity with its own distinct culture and typically language, sometimes religion too.
Even when the U.S. had racial immigration policies, "white" was a race, not an ethnicity. Historically, the U.S. had much ethnic tension among different white ethnicities.


[15-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see.


[15-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Sunnyside#3103
Irish vs Italian 
protistant vs catholic
north vs south
british vs german


[15-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[15-Jul-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Whereas Germany is the nation-state of the ethnic-German people, who speak German.


[15-Jul-20 07:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Historically, at least.


[15-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If an Italian moves to Ireland and their family settles there for generations, at some point aren't they really just as "Irish" as their neighbors even if their family didn't originate there?


[15-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
On that note, Britain is not a nation-state. It consists of 3 major nations: the English, the Scottish, and the Welsh.


[15-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that all depends.


[15-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Britain is a union of three nations.


[15-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do they speak irish?
do they have some irish customs or habits?


[15-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Sunnyside#3103
do they adhere to irish law?


[15-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's the tricky bit, isn't it? Because Irish habits of course change over time. How do we measure if someone is "Irish enough?"


[15-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Honahue#0656
a lot of Irish don't even speak Irish


[15-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Ethnicity has fuzzy boundaries. That doesn't mean it isn't real.


[15-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, I was born in the USA, but there are absolutely first-generation immigrants who are *way* more culturally traditional (as far as American culture goes, I mean) than I am.


[15-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Pontology#1010
America is different; we're fundamentally civic-nationalist.


[15-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Pontology#1010
We're not the homeland and nation-state of some ethnicity, but an idea.


[15-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Perhaps. I do think individualism is a pretty big part of American culture. I'm the child of an immigrant myself, and don't really feel any connection or bond with my ethnic background. I don't have a *problem* with my background either, I just never saw any reason to place much importance on it.


[15-Jul-20 08:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
(Or other peoples', for that matter. Hence my very "eh, race shouldn't really matter" outlook)


[15-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Pontology#1010
It shouldn't.


[15-Jul-20 08:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Are you white? I'll assume you are. Imagine being in a country where all the founders were black, all the people on the money are black. The people who wrote the constitution, the people behind the civic-nationalism of the country, all black. It'd be hard to personally identify with it.


[15-Jul-20 08:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm Arab. My father was from Jordan.


[15-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Ah ok. Then maybe you can relate here in America. Because the founders were white, it can be more difficult for those who are not white to "identify" with the civic-nationalism and ideals of the country.


[15-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Not saying you can't, for all I know you're a passionate American. Anyone can be American, like I said we're an idea.


[15-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010
But sadly, because we're irrational humans, things like that still matter.


[15-Jul-20 08:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Not for everyone, but for enough.


[15-Jul-20 08:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd say I've gotten along pretty well for the past 32 years. I work as a public school teacher, so my community (mostly people not of the same background as me; the city's mostly black and white people) are pretty comfortable with me.


[15-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Absolutely. But there's a reason that those who are not white are seldom "zealous Americans", for lack of a better word. And I suspect it's because it's more difficult for them to relate to the founders as in some sense their heritage, since they look different from them and on a subconscious level that affects it.


[15-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Pontology#1010
I may be rather blackpilled.


[15-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I suspect we might have different *ideas* about what being a zealous American is. To me, it's not traditionalism or patriotic rituals like anthems or songs. It's about being a good neighbor and helping people out, really.


[15-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
there's certainly a large number of americans who think that it should be a nation-state


[15-Jul-20 08:09 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe cause it's midwest hell here but all the zealous american's I know are the one that take this childish "freedom means you can't tell me what to do" people that think Corona is a hoax or the government is trying to control people through wearing masks


[15-Jul-20 08:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think some people get tripped up on the iconography of patriotism but don't really care about their countrymen's well-being. To me, being a good American is being in favor of causes that benefit the most people, which is why I'm for more accessible healthcare, unions for workers, etc. 

It comes from a place of caring about the people here, which to me is peak patriotism.


[15-Jul-20 08:10 AM] Honahue#0656
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[15-Jul-20 08:10 AM] wren#0114
such a great movie


[15-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
it is great and Gene Wilder has such amazing comedic timing


[15-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Pontology#1010
I'd hope you also think there's something special and worth preserving about our unique protections of free speech, gun rights, and other individual liberties. Americanism is highly about individual liberties, as enshrined in our Constitution.


[15-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And of course equality on the basis of race/sex/sexuality/whatever. Basically "be excellent to all Americans."

And oh yeah, I'm a licensed carrier myself.

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[15-Jul-20 08:12 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Huawei is banned from UK.


[15-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm fine with workers having funs but "gun culture" in the US is big cringe


[15-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Pontology#1010
More guns than people 😎


[15-Jul-20 08:13 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
@Honahue Couldn't agree more


[15-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I only have one and I keep it in my house.


[15-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Same.


[15-Jul-20 08:14 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Nobody:
Boomers: "TOLD YOU THE 5G MADE THE VIRUS"


[15-Jul-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Marx himself even spoke to the value of an armed working class, so I don't think 2A is incompatible with my leftism. 

I do think that better regulations for guns would be good though?


[15-Jul-20 08:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Highly dependent on the specific regulation.


[15-Jul-20 08:15 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Why is slow mode activated?


[15-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Ones like Virginia's new one where you can only buy one gun a month are just dumb. If your goal is to prevent bad people from killing people, they only need one gun. You can't shoot two at once. All it does it infringe on gun collectors and hobbyists.


[15-Jul-20 08:17 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Anyone can own a gun in the U.S.


[15-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Pontology#1010
*except felons


[15-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Pontology#1010
sometimes. It depends.


[15-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Honahue#0656
felons did their time punishing them after they've served is unneccacary


[15-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Pontology#1010
There's a high recidivism rate. I'd be in favor of something like a 2-year waiting period after they get out of prison, or whatever number is statistically sound to rule out recidivism.


[15-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Shouldn't be permanent.


[15-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm more interested in regulations that do a better job of screening people who shouldn't have guns, like people with a history of violence. Or *some* types of mental illness. Not all, like, I don't think general anxiety is a reason to block gun ownership, but I'm talking more severe disorders.

Maybe more training requirements. Maybe a requirement for *regular* training and mental wellness checks to keep your gun license. 

I think at a minimum, having to get a license or permit in every state would be a good start. In my state, you don't need one; only for concealed carry, which I'm licensed for but never do anyway.


[15-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Definitely not regular check-ups for mental wellness.


[15-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Pontology#1010
That has a high likelihood of becoming politically charged, given the history of psychiatry.


[15-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Pontology#1010
An excuse to disarm people of the wrong political persuasion.


[15-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Pontology#1010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry

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Political abuse of psychiatry, also commonly referred to as punitive psychiatry, is the misuse of psychiatry, including diagnosis, detention, and treatment, for the purposes of obstructing the human rights of individuals and/or groups in a society. In other words, abuse of psy...


[15-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Pontology#1010
E.g. in the USSR, they invented "sluggish schizophrenia" to imprison anti-communists. Obviously, if you oppose communism, you're just latently schizophrenic.


[15-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I'd need to look into that more but I do at least think for now my other suggestions make sense.


[15-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Honahue#0656
there's recidivism cause employers are legally allowed to discriminate against felons, so it's hard to get a legit job and if you can't make money legally you still have to eat and pay bills you'll make money illegally


[15-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Article has a case where it's happened even in modern-day New Zealand.


[15-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We require training and a license to drive a car, as we should. I think we absolutely should require the same to purchase and own a gun. This isn't even mainly to stop mass-shooters or criminals; just to teach people how to safely use a gun so they don't end up hurting themselves or others by mistake. Again, it's like driving.


[15-Jul-20 08:30 AM] wren#0114
is there a high rate of accidental shootings?


[15-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Pontology#1010
1.3% of gun deaths, apparently


[15-Jul-20 08:30 AM] wren#0114
it's a much different scenario when you're driving at highway speeds on public roads in multi-ton wagons


[15-Jul-20 08:31 AM] wren#0114
compared to owning a firearm and having it on your property or person


[15-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Pontology#1010
I suspect most of those unintentional shootings are things like kids finding the gun or a drunk person


[15-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, and it wouldn't just be about accidents, strictly speaking. Things like trigger-discipline, proper storage and cleaning, reducing recoil, etc. are all important. 

I dunno, I'm not saying it'd need to be a huge ordeal or anything, but I think having some basic minimum training requirements for a license in all 50 states would be helpful.


[15-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Driving is a privilege, not a right.


[15-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I get it. But I'm skeptical.


[15-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's fine. I understand the trepidation. But really, that's as far as I'd go.


[15-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Synfag#9241
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THE DAUGHTER of a police officer killed after being shot during an ambush in Texas has been blasted online for mistakenly tweeting #bluelivesmatter in tribute to her father.
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[15-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's awful.


[15-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Synfag#9241
at least the tweet is deleted now


[15-Jul-20 08:37 AM] wren#0114
>for mistakenly tweeting
bruh


[15-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Synfag#9241
big win for BLM


[15-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And I want to emphasize that I am a BLM supporter. I've been to numerous BLM protests in my town (all peaceful, police were there and we were civil to each other), and I take the movement really seriously.

Hating/attacking individual officers themselves is both wrong and extremely unhelpful for what the movement is trying to do.


[15-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Jesus f*cking christ, calling it a "racist hashtag". Her dad was literally killed on duty – one of the most dangerous jobs in America – and she was tweeted blue lives matter in her mourning.


[15-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Disgusting that she was attacked for this.


[15-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No argument there.


[15-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Twitter is a disgusting place generally.


[15-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Full of nasty, vindictive people. Something about it makes people behave like cruel, remorseless psychopaths.


[15-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Probably the semi-anonymity, same as 4chan.


[15-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Anonymity plus audience minus consequences.

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[15-Jul-20 08:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I agree with @Pontology . Yet I'm still here in this D O W N W A R D S P I R A L and every day I keep plunging myself down further


[15-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Antagonista#8566
No, it is the entire framework as to how the site operations. It's design (intentionally or not) facilitates creation and maintaining of bubbles of opinion, or so called "echo-chambers" by promoting similar content (ie "you may also like") and how feeds are organised with you seeing people you follow. You will never see different opinions if you don't look for them actively, and even if you do, you will be less likely to find them.


[15-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I and *my* fellow protesters have been arguing for, as with most of the protests across the country (the riots being a minority but not an immaterial one; I'm absolutely opposed to them) is that we need meaningful police reform. More training requirements, harsher consequences for improper behavior on the job, etc.

I don't think most cops are bad at all, but I *do* think there's a severe accountability problem that lets the bad ones stay on the force despite numerous violations, as well as "qualified immunity" that prevents them from being sued in civil court unless it can be proven they knowingly violated the law. I think a lot needs to change, but none of that is "just be dicks to cops on an interpersonal level" because A.) it's just not the right thing to do, and B.) it's bad optics for the change we *do* want.


[15-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Antagonista#8566
Now everyone can see how this is a prime example of an environment perfectly suited for creating positive feedback loops.


[15-Jul-20 08:46 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I feel like this statement from EmpLemon explains how bad the site is: http://tl.gd/n_1srabuj

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[15-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Pontology#1010
There are studies that show that things that induce rage are the most viral, the most shared, and spread the most quickly.


[15-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see what EmpLemon is saying and I can agree with some of it.

It's hard to tell where to draw the line, as I do think it's valid and acceptable to publicly criticize someone for their (equally public) statements and behavior. Where is the line between criticism and "cancelling?" 

I don't know, but I think the former has a place and sometimes gets dismissed as the latter. And in fairness, sometimes people do the latter disguised as the former.


[15-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do unambiguously think that dredging up very *old* statements and actions - which may no longer reflect who a person is today - isn't the thing to do.


[15-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I still think it's fine to speak about a person's current and present stance on things, even if you're being very critical of them. It's definitely important to do it fairly of course.


[15-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Pontology#1010
I've never heard of any cancellation that was justified. The only people for whom it could be justified are already socially "canceled" by virtue of being literal nazis, so cancel culture doesn't bother with them.


[15-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, well, I'm saying there's a difference between "cancelling" and merely criticizing.


[15-Jul-20 08:58 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
> I've never heard of any cancellation that was justified. The only people for whom it could be justified are already socially "canceled" by virtue of being literal nazis, so cancel culture doesn't bother with them.
@Pontology ahem H3H3 ahem


[15-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Pontology#1010
What did they do wrong? Defend Pewdiepie while being Jewish?


[15-Jul-20 08:59 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The usual K-pop stans shitting on him


[15-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Pontology#1010
I thought you were implying their being canceled was somehow justified.


[15-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think "cancel culture" is a real problem and it absolutely should be addressed, but I also think people who are being criticized for things that arguably *do* warrant criticism hide behind accusations of "cancel culture" as a way of saying they should be able to say things and not have to hear any criticism.

Free speech is wonderful, but it's a two-way street. Whatever I say is subject to the scrutiny of anyone else.


[15-Jul-20 09:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Ironic, because Twitter is celebrating its 14-year anniversary today.


[15-Jul-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If I were to go on Twitter and post about how I like to kick puppies or something, well, I don't think it's unreasonable that a lot of people would have vocal negative opinions about that - as is their right. Am I being unfairly cancelled because people reacted critically to me?


[15-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Pontology#1010
I went to UC Berkeley. I was completely apolitical, and then I saw fliers about some guy named "Ben Shapiro" coming to speak and to not let UC Berkeley "platform" his "hate speech".


[15-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Pontology#1010
I was curious what "hate speech" sounded like, so I googled him, expecting him to be some n-word spewing KKK member or something.


[15-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Turned out he's just a mainstream American conservative.


[15-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Cancel culture is the concerted effort of those at my university to prevent him from being allowed to speak.


[15-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I *do* think Ben has some views that are legitimately bigoted, like his opinions on LGBT people. I don't think Ben's a racist though.


[15-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Pontology#1010
He's just an Orthodox Jew.


[15-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I understand it's religious. I just disagree with those religious teachings.


[15-Jul-20 09:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Anyway, what makes cancellation different from criticism is that cancellation aims to no-platform the person, preventing them from speaking.


[15-Jul-20 09:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see. I guess that makes sense. 

I do think that private platforms do have the right to decide their own Terms of Service for their users, of course. But I adamantly defend anyone's right to speak their mind in a purely *public* space, no matter how reprehensible I might find their views.


[15-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
ben shapiro is a product of the southern strategy, what they say on paper isn't racist, but the intent is


[15-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
With private platforms, though, eh... Twitter could ban the color green in images if they wanted to and be within their rights to do it. I wouldn't *agree* with that decision, but I also don't think they should be legally compelled to be neutral. I think instead that if a site is truly unfair in a way that its users find unsatisfactory, they should create or support competition.


[15-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

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[15-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Crow#5457
> You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”


[15-Jul-20 09:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes yes, tax cuts are secretly racist.
/s


[15-Jul-20 09:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, that's fair. I mean to say I don't think Ben is willfully or consciously racist. Like I don't think Ben wants a white ethnostate.

Ben *did* say some pretty bad stuff about Arab people a decade ago but I think he renounced those views? I'll give him benefit of the doubt if he apologized.


[15-Jul-20 09:10 AM] Pontology#1010
He renounced those views, said it was "intellectually and morally flawed"


[15-Jul-20 09:11 AM] Pontology#1010
He said that when he was just 17.


[15-Jul-20 09:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's fair. I still disagree with Ben on most things, but I'll accept that he's changed his mind there.


[15-Jul-20 09:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I myself held bigoted views as a teenager. Not on race, but I was homophobic - largely due to insecurity with my own bisexuality at the time, and growing up in an environment where that wouldn't have been accepted by my peers. 

I intensely regret the way I acted then, but because of that I can empathize with people who were formerly, but are no longer, bigoted. People do change, as I know from experience.


[15-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
this is literally the primier republican party consultant and strategist, and he eventually became the head of the RNC


[15-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
directly from his mouth


[15-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
his words


[15-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Crow#5457
this is the republican strategy for the past 4 decades


[15-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Pontology#1010
I can believe there was some demographic targeting toward racists in the 60's and 70's. That doesn't mean that policies like tax cuts are inherently racist.


[15-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, no argument there. Whether it's *intentional* or not, the Republican strategy is absolutely not fair in execution.


[15-Jul-20 09:15 AM] Crow#5457
I was responding to "Yes yes, tax cuts are secretly racist. /s"


[15-Jul-20 09:15 AM] Synfag#9241

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[15-Jul-20 09:15 AM] Pontology#1010
British police state


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[15-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Pontology#1010
kek


[15-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, the UK doesn't have free speech, at all.


[15-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Synfag#9241
Yoo Kay


[15-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Pontology#1010
It's literally illegal there to be, quote, "grossly offensive". That's the actual language of the law.


[15-Jul-20 09:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think - and this is likely due to my American upbringing - even very hateful views should be *legally* allowed to be expressed. Now, I think the people can certainly shun such a person and express their *own* discontentment back at them - and they should.


[15-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Yep.


[15-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Synfag#9241
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[15-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Pontology#1010
That's what makes you fundamentally American.


[15-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Synfag#9241
Starting to understand this whole "defund the police" thing.


[15-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Synfag#9241
🤣


[15-Jul-20 09:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Supreme Court unanimously agrees, by the way. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/


[15-Jul-20 09:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Everyone, from Ginsberg to Thomas. It's not controversial.


[15-Jul-20 09:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think, though, that you could have a case to arrest someone for harassment - if someone was sending a footballer unwanted messages and being aggressive toward them, that could constitute a legal violation even here.


[15-Jul-20 09:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Credible threats of violence are illegal here, too.


[15-Jul-20 09:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Looks like one can issue a cease-and-desist for harassment and cyberbullying, too.


[15-Jul-20 09:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Law here is fine and covers everything without criminalizing thoughts or ideas.


[15-Jul-20 09:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even without threats, continually messaging someone if they tell you to leave them alone could also constitute harassment or stalking. Not sure if that's what happened here, but yeah.

Now, it also goes without saying that I certainly disagree with what the boy did. As a teacher, I myself would recommend to the parents (and it'd still ultimately be their choice) that a child displaying overt prejudicial views like that be referred to some kind of counseling or intervention.


[15-Jul-20 09:23 AM] Pontology#1010
What grade do you teach, and if applicable what subject. Just curious. (I also teach)


[15-Jul-20 09:24 AM] Pontology#1010
sorry to mods if off-topic to #politics, pls no ban


[15-Jul-20 09:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm a special education instructor at a high school. I do inclusion teaching and work with special-needs students who are not so severe that they need their own special ed class, but still require additional support in regular-ed classes. I do a lot of the things teacher's aides or paraprofessionals do, but I also create lesson plans and do grading since I have the full title of teacher.


[15-Jul-20 09:26 AM] Pontology#1010
That's fantastic. My brother is retarded (down syndrome and autism).


[15-Jul-20 09:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My father, actually, worked as a nurse at a center for down syndrome kids. He's retired now, but he really loved working with them.


[15-Jul-20 09:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In practice, I'm also kind of an always-on-call sub too. If there are a lot of teacher absences and they can't get a substitute in time, I'm sometimes called on to fill in for that class since I'm already there.


[15-Jul-20 09:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What about you? What do you teach?


[15-Jul-20 09:30 AM] Pontology#1010
I teach college math. Community college.


[15-Jul-20 09:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, cool.


[15-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Both of my grandfathers were college professors, though I only really knew my maternal grandpa. (Other one died in Jordan before I could ever meet him)


[15-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513727/Actors-writers-producers-warn-reverse-racism-film-industry.html

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513727/Actors-writers-producers-warn-reverse-racism-film-industry.html
Actors and producers warn of 'reverse racism' in the film industry
CAROLINE GRAHAM: A revolution is under way. White actors are being fired. Edicts from studio bosses make it clear that only minorities - racial and sexual - can be given jobs.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/12/01/30661532-0-image-a-63_1594514225153.jpg


[15-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Hollywood reaping what it's sown.


[15-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Pontology#1010
One of the most powerful directors in Hollywood has explicitly said he doesn't see himself ever hiring a white man in a lead role.


[15-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Anti-white racial discrimination.


[15-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Pontology#1010
They get what they deserve.


[15-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Too bad the rest of us are getting it, too.


[15-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Pontology#1010
> "Selma director Ava DuVernay, now one of the most powerful black women in Hollywood, wrote on Twitter: 'Everyone has a right to their opinion. And we – black producers with hiring power – have the right not to hire those who diminish us.
> 
> 'So, to the white men in this thread… if you don't get that job you were up for, kindly remember… bias can go both ways. This is 2020 speaking.'"


[15-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Jesus Christ, Selma directly condones anti-white racial bias, says it's ok.


[15-Jul-20 10:23 AM] Pontology#1010
As "retribution" or something.


[15-Jul-20 10:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh sure, I think this is dumb. Just like I think it's dumb when people get upset when a minority or woman is a main character. It ultimately shouldn't matter one way or the other and I think being outright against any type of person being a character is stupid.


[15-Jul-20 10:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You know, I think if I ever write a story, I'll have no particular race in mind for any of them and just spin a wheel once the story's done to apply race randomly to each character. Make it fun, make it totally unpredictable.


[15-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455183622404702238/732834282359488542/video0.mp4

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[15-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
joe biden vore exists

welp


[15-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Pontology#1010
This article is really creepy.


[15-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Pontology#1010
People afraid to hang up the phone before the person of color, because anything and everything is grounds for accusation of racism.


[15-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think that's what most people think.


[15-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Pontology#1010
It's what the hollywood culture is like, according to this exposé.


[15-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Pontology#1010
They're some of the wokest of the woke, and considering the ample quotations they have in there from people who actively practice anti-white racial discrimination, I'm inclined to believe it.


[15-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Just gotta keep these sensational stories in perspective. I'm politically pretty "woke" myself but I don't think most progressives are anti-white. I think there are exceptional examples who should absolutely be called out, but I think most people on my side of the aisle just want actual material change to policy rather than quibbling over minor social interactions.


[15-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
(Just as I'm sure, most conservatives don't get angry over people saying happy holidays. Just a vocal subset.)


[15-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Pontology#1010
I believe it. Unfortunately, psychopaths often rise to the top since they have no problem stepping over people.


[15-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, absolutely true.


[15-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Pontology#1010
But that's a broader issue, of course.


[15-Jul-20 10:39 AM] Pontology#1010
It is an explanatory factor behind this.


[15-Jul-20 10:39 AM] Pontology#1010
And why things like this are not representative of the wider population.


[15-Jul-20 10:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Also, you're very nice. Would friend / 10.


[15-Jul-20 10:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hey, thanks man. I'd do the same.

I do sincerely think you're wrong about a lot of stuff we talked about earlier, but since you're not in favor of discrimination (which I think is more important) I don't think we'd be unable to get along.


[15-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seattle-holds-training-session-for-white-employees-aimed-at-affirming-their-complicity-in-racism-and-undoing-whiteness

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/seattle-holds-training-session-for-white-employees-aimed-at-affirming-their-complicity-in-racism-and-undoing-whiteness
Seattle holds training session for white employees aimed at affirmi...
The city of Seattle held a training session for white employees aimed at teaching them how to “practice self-talk” that “affirms their complicity” in racism and about “undoing” their own whiteness.
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[15-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Segregating employees by race. Giving special training to all the white employees teaching them how they're racist.


[15-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Teaching the white employees to "affirm their complicity" in racism.


[15-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Pontology#1010
This is my problem with it. It's mainstream and institutional.


[15-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Not just a few bad apples.


[15-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So. hhhh, here's a concept that I think has something to it, but it's *explained* and worded and definitely *implemented* really badly.

I do think white privilege exists, inasmuch as there's a discrepancy between how white people and minorities are treated in many areas of society. I don't think things like this are the way to go about that. Meaningful changes to policy - *again,* I'm policy over idpol - to address things like police reform, redlining, etc. is a lot more important than gestures like this.


[15-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And I mean, we've seen that in response to the BLM protests too. 30-ish states renamed a street or put up a mural or otherwise verbally affirmed the movement, but only one state actually took some steps to change policy; Colorado, which ended qualified immunity for cops. Big win for sure, but only *one* state changed policy, and the rest just virtue-signalled.


[15-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Segregating employees by race (which is actually the suggestion of DiAngelo in her book on White Fragility, that's probably where they got it)


[15-Jul-20 10:51 AM] Pontology#1010
And teaching them that individualism is a vestige of white supremacy (yes, that's actually what they teach, also recommended by DiAngelo)


[15-Jul-20 10:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Will only lead to increasing white racial consciousness.


[15-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Pontology#1010
DiAngelo's book recommending this stuff was a top-seller last month. Like it or not, this is progressivism today.


[15-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's definitely an aspect of it. But since I genuinely *do believe* in the parts of it that I do - universal healthcare, police reform, racial equality, gender equality, LGBT rights, just *egalitarianism* in general - all I can do is try to push those positions while policing the bad parts on my side of the aisle. 

Like, I sincerely do support the elements I listed, so the fact that this bad stuff exists wouldn't justify me no longer being progressive, y'know?


[15-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Pontology#1010
There are different flavors of progressivism. I fear the trajectory is not towards yours, but towards this idpol neo-segregation.


[15-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Pontology#1010
Unrelated


[15-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/09/supreme-court-allows-native-american-jurisdiction-half-oklahoma/3208778001/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/09/supreme-court-allows-native-american-jurisdiction-half-oklahoma/3208778001/
Supreme Court says eastern Oklahoma remains Native American territory
Legal authority over virtually half of Oklahoma – home to 1.8 million residents and including Tulsa, its second-largest city – was at issue.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/09/06/USAT/9b2f5e75-ef01-41af-8503-f5a5374404db-XXX_HGS_1219.jpg?crop=7264,4086,x0,y549&width=3200&height=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[15-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm curious what this is going to mean in practice.


[15-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Within hours of the ruling, the five Amerindian tribes and Oklahoma promised cooperation. They should be able to work something out that doesn't completely upend things.


[15-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. I *think* this does mean that Native people in this territory can't be *federally* charged anymore, but Oklahoma authorities might still have some say there.


[15-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Hopefully the deal they work out is something like where non-tribal members in the eastern half of oklahoma are still subject to state law if they murder or something, but if an amerindian does then they're subject to the tribal system.


[15-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that would make sense, yeah.


[15-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is an extremely unusual situation, because like... it's not segregation, really - It's a racially *integrated* territory, but it's potentially going to have two separate governments.


[15-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Pontology#1010
I like Gorsuch. He's really principled in his textualism.


[15-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Haha yes


[15-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Pontology#1010
I had this thought just the other day, that the reservation system is like a voluntary segregation that the natives want.


[15-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Pontology#1010
And yes, here, it would be a racially integrated area with potentially two governments based on race (tribal affiliation)


[15-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those who live on them, yeah. Non-natives *can* live on reservations but I think only under certain circumstances.


[15-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like through marriage or otherwise living with a Native family.


[15-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Just realized Tulsa, in the eastern half, is a big city with nearly a million people.


[15-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah


[15-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Pontology#1010
I really hope they can work out something sensible that keeps Tulsa _de facto_ under Oklahoma control.


[15-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I'm sure.


[15-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/weekly-nyc-shootings-soar-358-over-last-year-data-shows/2478075/

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Jen Millman
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/weekly-nyc-shootings-soar-358-over-last-year-data-shows/2478075/
Weekly NYC Shootings Soar 358% Over Last Year, Data Shows
New York City shootings over the last seven days skyrocketed by more than 358 percent compared with the same time period in 2019, from just 12 last year to 55 in 2020, according to NYPD data News 4 reported Monday. A total of 74 people were wounded in the 55 shootings, at leas...
https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2019/09/bronx-morning-shooting.png?resize=1200%2C675


[15-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Pontology#1010
> "The 358% rise in shootings comes on the heels of NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea disbanding an anti-crime plainclothes unit that had focused on stopping people and searching  for guns.


[15-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Reforming the police is going well, I see.


[15-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Poor execution. It still needs to be done, just... differently.

I think changes in policy like this are like... stopping a truck. It has to be gradual. Slam on the brakes too hard, and you'll lurch forward and into the windshield.

Gradually increasing the community anti-crime initiatives while gradually shifting from stop-and-frisk to newer policies - phasing them out and in rather than just going from 100 to 0 in a day - would be the way to do it, in my admittedly unqualified opinion as a simple schoolteacher.


[15-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://babylonbee.com/news/famed-archaeology-professor-resigns-after-several-photos-surface-of-him-in-nazi-uniforms

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https://babylonbee.com/news/famed-archaeology-professor-resigns-after-several-photos-surface-of-him-in-nazi-uniforms
Famed Archaeology Professor Fired After Photos Surface Of Him Weari...
BEDFORD, CT—Professor of archeology, expert in the occult, and obtainer of rare antiquities, Dr. Henry Jones Jr. has been suspended indefinitely from Marshall College after multiple photos have surfaced of him wearing Nazi uniforms.“We're shocked and horrified by Dr. Jones’s a...
https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6556-2.jpg


[15-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's the Babylon Bee, man


[15-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. It's good satire. Took me a moment because it's too real.


[15-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/weekly-nyc-shootings-soar-127-over-last-year-nypd-data-shows/2489730/

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Brian Price
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/weekly-nyc-shootings-soar-127-over-last-year-nypd-data-shows/2489730/
Weekly NYC Shootings Soar 127% Over Last Year, NYPD Data Shows
New York City shootings over the last seven days skyrocketed by more than 127% compared with the same time period in 2019, from just 26 last year to 59 in 2020, according to NYPD data obtained by News 4. Since Sunday night until early Monday morning, there have been at least f...
https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2019/09/brooklyn-shooting-scene.png?resize=1200%2C675


[15-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh. Well, they're down at least compared to the week before (the article CEO posted)


[15-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Crow#5457
... why did they release two articles, both with different numbers, within 7 days of each other?


[15-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
first they released the 358% number, then they released the 127% number


[15-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess different figures for each week?


[15-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Each one says "over the past 7 days"


[15-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Crow#5457
> New York City shootings over the last seven days skyrocketed by more than 358 percent compared with the same time period in 2019, from just 12 last year to 55 in 2020, according to NYPD data News 4 reported Monday. 
vs
> New York City shootings over the last seven days skyrocketed by more than 127% compared with the same time period in 2019, from just 26 last year to 59 in 2020, according to NYPD data obtained by News 4.


[15-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I guess comparing the same week in 2020 and 2019.


[15-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Dr. Mechano bruh we post memes here and shitposts


[15-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
if they political


[15-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ohh, gotcha.


[15-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Crow#5457
which one is right? this is a huge red flag


[15-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They both are.


[15-Jul-20 11:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're comparing different things.


[15-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"The same time period in 2019" would be the same set of dates.


[15-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a weekly crime report, so some weeks have more or less crime than others.


[15-Jul-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
so they're comparing weekly reports, what about the rest of the year? that doesn't seem very useful to just measure the number of shootings, especially considering there's extraordinary circumstances (lots of protesting) compared to last year


[15-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, the rioting and looting is likely where the shootings are.


[15-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I'm not sure. For that matter, the week with a 358 percent increase is significant because the week it was compared to had a much lower amount of crime in 2019 than the one that only had a 127% increase

Both weeks had close to the same number of shootings, but the second one was compared to a week with a higher number last year.


[15-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Pontology#1010
mid-June had way more "protests" (protest+rioting) than late-June.


[15-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Pontology#1010
The word "riot" is no longer in the media's vocabulary for some reason. They call setting arson to buildings "protest".


[15-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now, I don't think that's fair. Most of the protests were indeed just that.

The rioting is wrong and I disavow it, but the vast majority of protests were peaceful.


[15-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anything, the media focused quite a bit on the riots.


[15-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Pontology#1010
While calling them protestors.


[15-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Crow#5457
because only a small number of the overall protests have been anything close to a riot


[15-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And you're right, CEO. I wish the media *would* have used clearer language and made a clearer distinction between the protests and rioters.


[15-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a peaceful protester myself, I'd have appreciated that much


[15-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Pontology#1010
Crow, I mean things like this. 
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/866540213/protesters-set-fire-to-vehicles-buildings-near-white-house
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/protestors-set-fire-to-minneapolis-police-precinct-as-trump-attacks-uprising-on-twitter

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Protesters Set Fire To Vehicles, Buildings Near White House
For a third night, demonstrations were held near the White House on Sunday. Protesters set fire to vehicles and nearby buildings. They were met with a heavy show of force by authorities.
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/protestors-set-fire-to-minneapolis-police-precinct-as-trump-attacks-uprising-on-twitter
Protesters set fire to Minneapolis police precinct as Trump attacks...
Late Thursday, President Donald Trump tweeted “Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts,” he said on Twitter.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/05/GettyImages-12291470601-1024x683.jpg


[15-Jul-20 12:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. Conflating the two isn't good optics for us.

It would have been a lot better if they'd consistently used "protesters" for the people picketing and chanting slogans and not brought that word into coverage of the riots.


[15-Jul-20 12:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think the average person knows the difference, still. But this kind of coverage wasn't helpful.


[15-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Crow#5457
they likely wanted to separate themselves from the news sites blanket calling all of the protesters "rioters"


[15-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That was also a problem, yeah.


[15-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There was the other extreme of people just writing off the entire thing as rioting.


[15-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which was *super* dishonest.


[15-Jul-20 12:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think those same outlets tried to push this as a black vs. white conflict too, which couldn't be further from the truth. The peaceful protests (which are the majority of protests) have brought communities together. People of *all* backgrounds marching side by side to fix their communities. Every BLM protest I've been to has been welcoming and supportive to white, black, and whoever else showed up.


[15-Jul-20 12:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
(Including - in cities where riots *did* happen - banding together to clean up afterward)


[15-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Opponent#3498
this is the 'fair and balanced' centrist thing again. If one side goes to an extreme, you face a choice of going the opposite extreme or be seen indirectly supporting them.


[15-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Opponent#3498
first option, you both are seen (and might or might not become) extremists, second, the other side wins.


[15-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Opponent#3498
words cannot express how much I hate it.


[15-Jul-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-says-european-union-formed-take-advantage-united-states-2020-7

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https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-says-european-union-formed-take-advantage-united-states-2020-7
Trump says the European Union was 'formed in order to take advantag...
The President said the EU was 'formed to take advantage of the United States. I know that. They know I know that but other presidents had no idea.'
https://i.insider.com/5f0ed14119182450e5765da2?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Jul-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-rep-steve-watkins-of-kansas-charged-with-voter-fraud-2020-7

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https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-rep-steve-watkins-of-kansas-charged-with-voter-fraud-2020-7
GOP Rep. Steve Watkins of Kansas was charged in voter fraud investi...
Shawnee County District Attorney Michael Kagay charged Rep. Steve Watkins with three felonies and one misdemeanor for voter fraud.
https://i.insider.com/5f0e54123f7370530a6ddb32?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Jul-20 02:02 PM] PwnyPony#6185
🇪🇺  formed to fuck America. nothing to do with all those wars.


[15-Jul-20 02:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You know, at first I thought all the "Trump has dementia" stuff was just jokes, but lately he's been saying some serious nonsense


[15-Jul-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe he's simply just that ignorant.


[15-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I absolutely wouldn't be suprised that the only thing he known about Europe's history is that there was a war there some time ago and US won it.


[15-Jul-20 02:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
His ignorance is going to potentially get me really ill, since he's pressuring schools to reopen sooner than all the medical experts are recommending. I'll do my best not to croak.


[15-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
well, if the 0.02% mortality rate is legit, and about extra 0.5% of overall sick, it's not awful personal odds.


[15-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Opponent#3498
that was projected extra for school reopening


[15-Jul-20 02:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The mortality rate is comparably low (still not worth the risk in my opinion), but even survivors can still end up with some longterm health complications. 

I'm hoping the governor postpones the start of in-person classes a bit longer, in any event.


[15-Jul-20 02:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucking kill me right now https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1283374013100720128?s=21

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[15-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
wh

what's the news, donald


[15-Jul-20 02:17 PM] illumnious#7938
Bleach is the cure


[15-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
augh man that's like 400 episodes


[15-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
inject bleach directly into heart. Works every time.


[15-Jul-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont forget the black light up your ass


[15-Jul-20 02:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Injectable disinfectant. :bigbrain:


[15-Jul-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-broke-protocol-attack-joe-biden-rally-style-rose-garden-speech-2020-7

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Trump broke presidential protocol by turning a standard White House...
In a hour-long speech in the Rose Garden on Tuesday, the president launched attacks like claiming Biden wanted to abolish prisons and windows.
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[15-Jul-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
windows?


[15-Jul-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[15-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
windows keep out the pollution from Trump's penthouse. Clearly Biden's out to get him.


[15-Jul-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Trump claimed that Biden was seeking to "abolish prisons" and "mandate net-zero carbon emissions for homes, offices, and all new buildings by 2030," which he claimed "basically means no windows, no nothing."


[15-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I am very tired of people saying "the polls were wrong in 2016" whenever people talk about polling for 2020.

The *aggregate* of the polls in 2016 put Trump one standard polling error away from winning. The gap between him and Clinton was small, much smaller than the gap between him and Biden. They always showed that he had a pretty good chance of winning.

The polls were fine, people just came to the wrong conclusions from them.


[15-Jul-20 02:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Biden has consistently been doing about twice as well as Clinton was, so I think that as long as people actually show up and vote, my money's on Trump losing this one.


[15-Jul-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as they *can* show up and vote is the bigger thing here


[15-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah.


[15-Jul-20 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of state;s republican congresses are working towards shutting down polling places, minimalizing access, and trying to can absentee ballots


[15-Jul-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the federal congress is trying to kill the us postal service


[15-Jul-20 02:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, yeah. The more people vote, the worse things are for them. Imagine that.

I mean, the party's outright acknowledged that the more of the population that gets electorally represented, the less Republicans win: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw&ab_channel=peoplefor

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Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote. He complains that fellow Christians have "Goo-Goo Syndrome": Good Government. Classic clip ...
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[15-Jul-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile because voting day isnt a federal holiday, employers schedule overtime to keep people working when they should be voting


[15-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm still not sure this has any basis in reality tbh. Yeah I get not letting people off unexpectedly, but if you _really_ want to, I bet with a few exceptions you can get a half a day off when you need it. Yeah, we've discussed this before, but still. You're implying a conspiracy of employers everywhere. That's Alex Jones gay frogs tier.


[15-Jul-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not employers everywhere, just of a few very large chains and offices


[15-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. Gerrymandering and closing of polling places, of course, is a much more common.


[15-Jul-20 02:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the employer thing isnt as common because that would be pretty noticable, but they do what they can because corporate benefits from voter suppression as much as the gop does


[15-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I imagine it happens, but yeah, I don't think intentionally sabotaging voting is very common for employers.

We have had, however, companies requiring employees to go to political rallies. (Technically employees could opt out, but they wouldn't be paid for the day)


[15-Jul-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also werent allowed lunch breaks and were only allowed to cheer, any negative noises put your job on the line


[15-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I know Shell was one of the companies that made employees go to Trump rallies.


[15-Jul-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-coronavirus-task-force-brett-giroir-trump-lying-2020-7

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Top US coronavirus testing czar defends public health officials aft...
"None of us lie," Assistant Secretary of Health Adm. Brett Giroir said. "We are completely transparent with the American people."
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[15-Jul-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507350-jeff-sessions-loses-comeback-bid-in-alabama-runoff

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Jeff Sessions loses comeback bid in Alabama runoff
Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions failed in his bid to reclaim his old Senate seat after losing to former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville in the Alabama GOP runoff on Tuesday.
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[15-Jul-20 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507406-white-house-distances-itself-from-navarro-op-ed-bashing-fauci

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White House distances itself from Navarro op-ed bashing Fauci
The White House on Wednesday distanced itself from an op-ed by trade adviser Peter Navarro questioning the credibility of Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious diseases expert.
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[15-Jul-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/507402-judge-blocks-second-planned-federal-execution-citing-inmates

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Judge blocks second planned federal execution, citing inmate's deme...
For the second time this week, a judge in Washington, D.C. has blocked the Trump administration from resuming federal executions.
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[15-Jul-20 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/trump-secret-payments-sons-wife-girlfriend_n_5e9a1c46c5b635d25d6c747a

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Lara Trump and Kimberly Guilfoyle are each receiving $15,000 per month through the campaign manager’s private company, GOP sources said, to dodge FEC rules.
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[15-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
kind of peanuts


[15-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/premier-calls-u-s-covid-19-response-reckless-as-ontario-prepares-for-possible-second-wave-1.5023218

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Premier calls U.S. COVID-19 response 'reckless' as Ontario prepares...
Premier Doug Ford said that Ontario is so much "better prepared" for a potential second wave of COVID-19 as he once again compared his government’s response to COVID-19 to the “reckless” approach south of the border.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.5023907.1594754968!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg


[15-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The chad ontario conservative party vs the virgin gop


[15-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Pedo bashing


[15-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[15-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Pedagogue is the one who educates children, right?
So pedobasher is the one who bashes children :bigbrain:


[15-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Phelan#7647
@Gordon Freeman we need more crackheads in government. His brother was just a start.


[15-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Phelan#7647
Also dollar beers, need those too


[15-Jul-20 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/emman1185/status/1283128817880629255

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@stclairashley The banner was planted. As soon as people realized what was going on, the people holding the banner took off.
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[15-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[15-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/agent_of_change/status/1283028508302876672?s=19

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https://twitter.com/agent_of_change/status/1283028508302876672?s=19
China will soon be the world's largest economy. It'll be the first nation to reach that status whose rise isn't built on colonialism, slavery & genocide, but rather on hard work, good economics & effective governance. This should earn China love, but it earns it hate in the W...
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[15-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Phelan#7647
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https://twitter.com/agent_of_change/status/1283333601304678400?s=19
Helpful answers to popular questions I'm receiving on Twitter:

1. "Why don't you go live in China?" Because my family lives in England.

2. "How much does the CPC pay you?" Sadly nothing.

3. "Have you heard of Hong Kong, Tibet, Taiwan and Xinjiang?" Yes, they're parts of Ch...
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[15-Jul-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Imagine being so cucked by a totalitarian government


[15-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Phelan Doug Ford isn't a crack head tho


[15-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Phelan#7647
Brother was


[15-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
yes, but that doesn't mean he is


[15-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Phelan#7647
Oh, I said "his brother was just a start", you misread.


[15-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok now i'm confused did you mean you want him to start smokeing crack?


[15-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Crank


[15-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
cawnk


[15-Jul-20 04:07 PM] byte[]#2610
caw

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[15-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Stoopedhooy meme should read when you open a new girlled cheese place in FL but then the anti sjws start protesting masks https://youtu.be/DFMPA-dNzas

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Florida Is Horrible
This is the greatest state of All Time
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[15-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Wat


[15-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Phelan#7647
I was making the joke, Doug Ford was just the bridge.


[15-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why you ping me


[15-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
cuz i was responding to your meme


[15-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The fuck you talk about even I can't make sense of your typos


[15-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Your meme should read: When you open a new grilled cheese place in Florida but then the anti mask anti sjws start protesting masks.


[15-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Phelan ah ok


[15-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not funny.
Didn't laugh.


[15-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Why not? Anti mask anti sjws who call everything communism are stupid people and should be made fun of.


[15-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:kirin:


[15-Jul-20 04:19 PM] illumnious#7938
WTF

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[15-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Match box?


[15-Jul-20 04:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Maybe but I’ll check my email


[15-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People who call masks communism should be made fun of. Also wtf is that email


[15-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Other then an scam I mean.


[15-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Cloppershy#6322
It's this. It applies to everyone and is not time limited.

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[15-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Cloppershy#6322
So basically, just a lie


[15-Jul-20 04:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-intervening-case-missouri-mansion-couple-pointed-guns-governor-2020-7

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Trump is intervening in the case of the couple who pointed guns at ...
The president has described the case as "a disgrace", and claims “these people were standing there, never used it, and they were legal, the weapons.”
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[15-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anti maskers with guns raiding a state legislature: happy trump


[15-Jul-20 05:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, I don't think standing on your property with a gun is any sort of crime.


[15-Jul-20 05:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
The real crime was that boomer lady's lack of trigger discipline. Stupid cunt.


[15-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People get arrested beacuse they pointed guns at blm protsters: angry trump noises


[15-Jul-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't think you're supposed to chill stand while holding a gun


[15-Jul-20 05:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why not?


[15-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And i agree that lady not practicing gun safety


[15-Jul-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, iunno


[15-Jul-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't have knowlege in guns but she looks inexperienced in holding a pistol


[15-Jul-20 05:04 PM] CandorChampion™#0800
It's a terrible posture, stance, and grip. Aye.


[15-Jul-20 05:05 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, she could use some basic training. She could have killed someone by accident, which is the only probablem I have with the situation.


[15-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And yet Trump is going to give them special treatment for there improper gun safety.


[15-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Meanwhile: https://www.npr.org/2020/05/14/855918852/heavily-armed-protesters-gather-again-at-michigans-capitol-denouncing-home-order

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Heavily Armed Protesters Gather Again At Michigan Capitol To Decry ...
Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has been threatened online with violence by opponents who have organized another demonstration at the State Capitol on Thursday.
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[15-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He isn't doing anything about this. Beacuse he likes the anti mask protesters. They like him.


[15-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
""Law and order president""


[15-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-26/9th-circuit-court-rules-against-trump-border-wall

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Trump broke the law by using military funds for border wall, appeal...
In a major border wall ruling, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says the Trump administration broke the law using defense funds for wall construction.
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[15-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Phelan#7647
Nothing wrong with legally carrying a firearm.


[15-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
lAw AnD oRdEr PrEsiDenT


[15-Jul-20 05:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Threats towards democatic goveners by the same people who showed up to there place of work with guns are another matter


[15-Jul-20 05:13 PM] illumnious#7938
> It's this. It applies to everyone and is not time limited.
@Cloppershy  it’s a scam then


[15-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Phelan#7647
You can legally carry openly at the Capitol so no laws were broken, it was a peaceful protest.
I think what they're protesting for is stupid, but they still have the right to protest.


[15-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These stay at home orders are not enough IMO


[15-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They do, that is not what I was criticising. I was attacking the people who threatened the governor


[15-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
@Synfag, no posting misinformation, not only is that from 2017, it was planted https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/students-protesting-mike-cernovich-debunk

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Here's How A Picture Of Protesters Became A Misleading Far-Right Story
A photo taken out of context became fuel for misinformation.
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[15-Jul-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Right wing narratives are all psychological manipulation tricks


[15-Jul-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the reality of anti-SJW youtube for example

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[15-Jul-20 06:04 PM] wren#0114
example?


[15-Jul-20 06:04 PM] wren#0114
like, what are some of the tricks


[15-Jul-20 06:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The favorable status of youtube algorithms towards right-wing propaganda through "SJW cringe compilation" type videos


[15-Jul-20 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the existence of an affirming community towards this sort of ideology


[15-Jul-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
that is a problem with a lot of things youtube


[15-Jul-20 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, but right-wing youtube seems to game that quite well


[15-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Skydreams#1312
that and playing off of their audience's fear. though that's not exclusive to the far right.


[15-Jul-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
I thought you meant like the kinds of slogans or words in the content


[15-Jul-20 06:07 PM] wren#0114
which I would be interested in studying


[15-Jul-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A flurry of contextless incidents by "cringe liberals" ends up creating a narrative if you forget to check up on what happened before and after the video


[15-Jul-20 06:08 PM] wren#0114
for sure


[15-Jul-20 06:08 PM] wren#0114
also, that's not exclusively a right wing problem


[15-Jul-20 06:09 PM] wren#0114
unfortunately that's a pitfall of social media networking


[15-Jul-20 06:10 PM] wren#0114
like, it doesn't have to be someone trying to push a narrative after a certain point, when people themselves share mostly out of context things that only reinforce the beliefs in their groups


[15-Jul-20 06:11 PM] wren#0114
and self-isolate from other groups with opposing views


[15-Jul-20 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm aware


[15-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Skydreams#1312
Yeh. Though with a few exceptions the far right has done a good job of making me want to isolate from them without reinforcement from my side of the aisle >_<


[15-Jul-20 06:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Jul-20 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Jul-20 06:30 PM] Skydreams#1312
:z_sky_sad:


[15-Jul-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
`Nothing wrong with legally carrying a firearm.`
This.
`Threats towards democatic goveners by the same people who showed up to there place of work with guns are another matter`
You are allowed to assemble before city hall, and you are allowed to have guns. Shooting guns or verbally threatening to shoot someone is another matter.


[15-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[15-Jul-20 06:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
`A flurry of contextless incidents by "cringe liberals" ends up creating a narrative if you forget to check up on what happened before and after the video`
To be fair, this is a problem with the internet/society as a whole, and not even just in the context of politics.
People will always use fringe cases to vindicate themselves.


[15-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/poll-biden-leads-trump-pennsylvania-363880

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Poll: Biden up 13 points on Trump in Pennsylvania
Trump won Pennsylvania by less than one percentage point in 2016.
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[15-Jul-20 06:59 PM] illumnious#7938
:9392_party_blob:


[15-Jul-20 07:06 PM] Phelan#7647

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[15-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When you don't know alternate meanings for the word "concentration"


[15-Jul-20 07:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, totes believable


[15-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Crow#5457
wtf


[15-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
stanning for China to own the US/GOP is fucking cringe

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[15-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not imperialism unless the USA does it, really is the mentality of ML's and Maoists


[15-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Skydreams#1312
tankies are an embarrassment to the left


[15-Jul-20 07:18 PM] ononim#8141
Support based anti-imperealist nationalist states of Syria and Russia :salut:


[15-Jul-20 07:21 PM] ononim#8141
Bro I swear bro it is not economic imperialism and debt trap bro it is helping build productive forces bro, bro those barren islands (and resources in the sea around it) off the coast of Philippines belong to Chinease natio I mean Chinease working class bro


[15-Jul-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1283406438375841792

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[15-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism#Maoists_and_anti-revisionists

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State capitalism
State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized...


[15-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
> Most current communist groups descended from the Maoist ideological tradition still adopt the description of both China and the Soviet Union as being state capitalist from a certain point in their history onwards—most commonly, the Soviet Union from 1956 to its collapse in 1991 and China from 1976 to the present. Maoists and anti-revisionists also sometimes use the term social imperialism to describe socialist states that they consider to be actually capitalist in essence—their phrase, "socialist in words, imperialist in deeds" denotes this.


[15-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.mcvuk.com/business-news/new-eu-regulation-strengthens-hand-of-developers-and-publishers-in-dealings-with-storefronts/

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[15-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
> New EU regulation came into play at the start of the week that applies to digital storefronts, most notably Apple and Google’s for mobile devices. With the new regulations significantly strengthen the rights of those selling through such marketplaces.
> 
> The rules, which you can see here in full if you’re happy to fight through them, or as discussed here by the EGDF’s Jari-Pekka Kaleva on GI.Biz, cover a wide range of ongoing issues that developers have with stores.
> 
> Platforms will have to provide 30 days notice to publishers before removing content from stores, allowing them time to appeal or make changes to their software. So no immediate and opaque bans (article 4).
> 
> The regulations (in article 5) will force stores to be more transparent in how their ranking systems work, letting publishers understand how ‘trending’ apps are being chosen for instance.

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[15-Jul-20 07:40 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1283434584689049601?s=21

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سه نفر در ایران برای شرکت کردن در تظاهرات محکوم به مرگ شده اند. اعدام آنها در هر لحظه قابل انتظار است. اعدام این سه نفر پیامی اسفناک به دنیا می فرستد و نباید انجام شود. #اعدام_نکنید
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[15-Jul-20 07:41 PM] illumnious#7938

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[15-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/hrlfws/64_videos_show_the_nypd_meeting_protesters_with/

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[15-Jul-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Meanwhile in Bolivia


[15-Jul-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1283406438375841792
Things looking a bit scary

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[15-Jul-20 08:03 PM] wren#0114
:faceclaw:


[15-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHkPwUmbfE0
stumbled across this on youtube. it's a very interesting documentary and rather relevant to the current political discussion.

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The Black Confederates: The Forgotten Men In Gray
Hear the story of Free and Slave MEN who did in fact fight for Friendship, Brotherhood, and Southern Independence.

For Dixieland they took their stand, to live and die for Dixie.

DEO VINDICE. (UNDER GOD, OUR VINDICATOR.)

Hear a story of a side of "Stonewall" Jackson (the Bl...
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[15-Jul-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
>Hear the story of Free and Slave MEN who did in fact fight for Friendship, Brotherhood, and Southern Independence.


[15-Jul-20 08:49 PM] byte[]#2610
you mean the metanarrative pushed by propagandists and historical revisionists who want you to think the civil war was actually about southern independence?


[15-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Russian police be like
https://img.ifunny.co/videos/bd332b3baea1c39d164448658d0dd5e40026312add6751444ba707bce17553c9_1.mp4

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[15-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
well that's a matter of debate but still give the documentry a watch. i found it interesting either way.


[15-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's not long either


[15-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Stoopedhooy In ~~soviet~~ russia, you arrest the police.


[15-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
if you have that amount of firepower in russia, you're connected to the government in a way that the police don't want to mess with


[15-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1283224831832530945

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Fox News guest warns that teachers are "grooming our children for sexual predators" https://t.co/Tn49sOlmnO
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[15-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[15-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
"public schools groom children for sexual predators" is the most batshit insane take I've ever heard


[15-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why do they groom them to begin with? :twismug:


[15-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
We only had rare lice inspections in class.
Aka head massage.


[15-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:nut:


[15-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
obviously teaching mathematics is a form of grooming that prepares a child for going to college, and kids have sex in college, so obviously the child is being groomed to have sex in college... or something


[15-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They do it right. Kids finish college and then they have to pay off anal college credit. Sounds about right.


[15-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
TIL there is a different kind of grooming


[15-Jul-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
bro if I could pay for college by taking it in the ass I would


[15-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Only heard of the one where animals scratch each other


[15-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grooming>
> 5. The act of attempting to gain the trust of a minor with the intention of having a sexual relationship with him or her.


[15-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
binary genders REEEEEE


[15-Jul-20 09:24 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[15-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
Skreeeeeee!

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[15-Jul-20 09:24 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[15-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
good bat

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[15-Jul-20 09:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0715/1153349-apple-ireland-eu/
"Fuck my economy harder Apple daddy." - 🇮🇪

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Apple and Ireland win €13bn tax appeal
Apple and Ireland have won their appeal against the European Commission's €13.1bn tax ruling.
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[15-Jul-20 09:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-museum-verdict/erdogan-declares-hagia-sophia-a-mosque-after-turkish-court-ruling-idUSKBN24B1UP

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Erdogan declares Hagia Sophia a mosque after Turkish court ruling
President Tayyip Erdogan declared Istanbul's Hagia Sophia a mosque on Friday with the first Muslim prayers to begin in two weeks, after a top court ruled the ancient building's conversion to a museum by modern Turkey's founding statesman was illegal.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200710&t=2&i=1525299319&w=1200&r=LYNXMPEG6913B


[15-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Pretty funny how it was originally cathedral


[15-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that this subreddit exists


[15-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I remember this satire.


[15-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Comments were pretty funny too.


[15-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/e4d5259bfc6c74fcb090d885737c55a6

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First COVID-19 vaccine tested in US poised for final testing
The first COVID-19 vaccine tested in the U.S. revved up people’s immune systems just the way scientists had hoped, researchers reported Tuesday -- as the shots are poised to begin key final...
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[15-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
that'll be $1200


[15-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe covid was engineered by USA after all


[15-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[15-Jul-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow i doubt 1/2 of US would take it even for free tbh due to those anti ppl


[15-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/moderna-stock-price-could-surge-potential-coronavirus-vaccine-target-raise-2020-7-1029398327

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Moderna will surge another 60% on the value of its potential corona...
On Tuesday, Moderna announced that an early coronavirus vaccine trial produced antibodies in all participants.   Shares of Modern...
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[15-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
apparently it's being predicted to be $75 a pop


[15-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
True, that is the most expensive autism injection rn @jlun2


[15-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They finally did it!

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[15-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/chloedontsurf/status/1277422601061744640 https://twitter.com/chloedontsurf/status/1282724484986867712

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heartbreaking signs held up inside of bradley county jail today. inmates are being denied proper PPE (masks, cleaning supplies, etc) and are being forced to use bedsheets as masks. covid positive inmates are housed with healthy inmates. linking petition below
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[15-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_penny_coffin

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[15-Jul-20 10:27 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
TIL of two penny hangover

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[15-Jul-20 10:45 PM] Pontology#1010
@Crow I think they're referring to things like teaching elementary school students about self-pleasure.


[15-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Basically encouraging pre-pubescent children to masturbate.


[15-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Pontology#1010
Fox News isn't wrong.


[15-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Pontology#1010
Grooming may not be the intent, but it's an inadvertent consequence.


[15-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Honahue#0656
this is in the UK


[15-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.out.com/news/2019/10/31/misinformation-campaign-claims-sex-ed-teaches-toddlers-masturbate

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Misinformation Campaign Claims Sex Ed Teaches Toddlers to Masturbate
It has pushed hundreds of parents to write in to government agencies in protest.
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[15-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
misinformation is not allowed


[15-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Honahue#0656
grooming is intentional


[15-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Pontology#1010
CROW. IT HAS THE SOURCE ITSELF.

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[15-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Pontology#1010
That's what they use!


[15-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Honahue#0656
damn, masturbate while alone such crazy grooming behavior


[15-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
the daily mail is not mainstream media


[15-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Pontology#1010
Hm ok. It's still real news. It has a source-document itself.


[15-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Honahue#0656
teaching kids not to masturbate in class isn't grooming its common sense grooming ist like "wow you're so mature for your age"


[15-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Crow#5457
it is a tabloid that purposefully feeds off and perpetuates this sort of misinformation, they are not being taught how to touch themselves, they are being taught about masturbation, the difference being that the accusation implies adults are touching children when they're being taught that x exists and to not feel bad about it


[15-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Pontology#1010
> A teaching manual issued as part of the programme instructs children aged six to ten about “the rules of self-stimulation".
> 
> The Touching Myself section advises to tell the youngsters that “lots of people like to tickle or stroke themselves as it might feel nice",  including touching their “private parts".


[15-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, it's about teaching kids when it's okay to masturbate, I had to learn it when I was like 4 years old from my mom that you shouldn't masturbate in public


[15-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
I'm one of the lucky ones who didn't have a batshit insane conservative retard who learned to not masturbate by being whipped


[15-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Crow#5457
yes, the article will stay deleted, the linked picture is enough and gets the point across that they are teaching children about masturbation, but it doesn't put the spin that it's somehow the teachers sexually abusing the children


[15-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Pontology#1010
You inferred that. I never did.


[15-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Pontology#1010
The article pretty clearly describes the situation, the headline is just the usual variety of the garbage clickbait media headline.


[15-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
the headline is the misinformation


[15-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
tbh clickbait headlines meant to create controversy like that are borderline disinformation


[15-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
What's misinformation about it? I guess it could be interpreted in two ways. "Self-touching lessons", lessons about touching yourself are what they are.


[15-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Pontology#1010
Like I said, just the usual garbage headline, but not misinformation.


[15-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Skydreams#1312
:popcorn:


[15-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, just let kids learn about this stuff on their own and actively shun and avoid the topic like it's a massive taboo and downright sinful to speak of, absolutely no harm can come from that


[15-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Opponent#3498
remember: God watches you masturbate. He is disappointed with your poor perfomance.


[15-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Pontology#1010
6 years old is way too young.


[15-Jul-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
I can only cum when Ben Shapiro DESTROYS LIBTARDS with AOC's epic feet pics

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[15-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, I literally said I had to be told not to masturbate in public by my mom when I was 4 years old, and masturbation has been observed to begin in the 3-4 year range, but disappears when parents start scolding their children for doing it, the behavior only re-emerges during puberty because the hormones demand attention


[15-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Pontology#1010
It also interferes with parental religious rights. Hundreds of Muslim parents pulled their kids out of school in Birmingham when they introduced lessons normalizing homosexuality.


[15-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Pontology#1010
Birmingham thankfully capitulated out of cultural sensitivity, and eliminated the lgbt indoctrination.


[15-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/04/birmingham-school-stops-lgbt-lessons-after-parent-protests

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Birmingham school stops LGBT lessons after parents protest
Hundreds of children withdrawn from Parkfield community school for day
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[15-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
dude, when parental religious rights get in the way proper psychological development of children, fuck parental rights and fuck religious rights


[15-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>normalizing homosexuality
OH NO


[15-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Pontology#1010
Muslims are about the only hope of the UK at this point, since leftism means you must respect Islam. (e.g. eliminating lgbt-indoctrination due to Islam)

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[15-Jul-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Oh god, not teaching children that other people are different than themselves! The religious horror!


[15-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hope for what


[15-Jul-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Surely this will cause churches to crumble and horses to eat eachother


[15-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Pontology#1010
Hope for reversing their ludicrous situation where 33% of teenagers identify as lgbt+


[15-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
hope for religious conservatism to prevail, I guess


[15-Jul-20 11:15 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
federal run public schools were a mistake


[15-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Pontology#1010
At some point, the Western world lost sight of the distinction between tolerance and celebration.


[15-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Skydreams#1312
It gives me a bit more hope for derpi seeing the responses to this guy's bullshit >_>


[15-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Pontology#1010
:laughfilly:


[15-Jul-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should just make schools into churches at this point and nix the science lessons


[15-Jul-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the true spirit of religious freedom


[15-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Pontology#1010
Religious charter schools are fine.


[15-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
UK seems to be keen on 'always succumb to agressor' mentality instilled in it's institutions and people.


[15-Jul-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
teaching children about their own bodies so they can be better prepared to handle themselves? nah, that's a blight on good christian parents


[15-Jul-20 11:20 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
idgaf if people celebrate anything they want to. also, idgaf if people insult those celebrating. I care that the schools are teaching children what to think and not how to think.

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[15-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
well, power to them I suppose. Funny how history has turned out :D


[15-Jul-20 11:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well considering how @Pontology is a boomer in spirit i don't think this convo's gonna go anywhere


[15-Jul-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Just slap them with rulers, it's worked for nuns


[15-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Pontology#1010
>boomer in spirit
I'm a silent generation in spirit

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[15-Jul-20 11:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Didn't say i wanted to ban him


[15-Jul-20 11:22 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
oh shit i read that wrong


[15-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Skydreams#1312
Nah don't ban him I like seeing him get stomped on by the mods


[15-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Skydreams#1312
:s_sky_giggle:


[15-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Pontology#1010
I don't think anyone suggested banning me


[15-Jul-20 11:22 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
i read rules and not rulers


[15-Jul-20 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rules are made by rulers tho


[15-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/soulism_heffley/status/1283225595787096064

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[15-Jul-20 11:23 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>just slap him with rules


[15-Jul-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's not talking about the dude, but about children in schools


[15-Jul-20 11:24 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I know that now
I read it wrong


[15-Jul-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i don't know if it still goes on but nuns used to slap children with rulers for misbehaving or not adhering to strict religious code


[15-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Heavily depends where


[15-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I went to a fairly strict catholic school in spain, any nun (or any other teacher) trying to pull that off would've been lead out the building in handcuffs


[15-Jul-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think that's a thing in america anymore either, i think the school would be sued into oblivion if it was


[15-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Skydreams#1312
When I was in school my mom had to fill out a form saying they weren't allowed to use corporal punishment on me if i acted up


[15-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Skydreams#1312
The default was that it was allowed.


[15-Jul-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[15-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Pontology#1010
Nothing inherently wrong with corporal punishment unless it's excessive.


[15-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Pontology#1010
It's sometimes necessary.


[15-Jul-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because hitting a child isnt at all excessive


[15-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Hitting a child is always excessive


[15-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Spanking is not.


[15-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Skydreams#1312

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[15-Jul-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spanking is hitting


[15-Jul-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's hitting your child in a very specific location


[15-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Pontology#1010
My brother had Oppositional Defiance Disorder. When he was 9, as "revenge" for being put in time-out, he hammered nails in my parents' car tires. The tired exploded after they got in and began driving. If that had happened on the freeway, he would have killed my parents.


[15-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Pontology#1010
My parents spanked him. Obviously, time-out didn't work, since it was revenge for time-out. It was necessary to hammer through his thick skull to NEVER hammer nails into the car tires.


[15-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Should just wait until they're in their 70s and put them in a home and never visit them like all Americans who hate their parents do


[15-Jul-20 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Was it the spanking that convinced him not to be an asshole anymore or was it the thought of putting his parents in danger?


[15-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Pontology#1010
Spankings. He had no problem putting his parents in danger when he was angry and irrational.


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Pontology#1010
He had serious behavioral problems.


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah no that doesn't sound convincing


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That should've been treated by a therapist and not by beatings


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Skydreams#1312
I lived with an ODD kid. He tried to shove me down the basement steps on multiple occasions just to see what would happen. I still don't think spanking is okay though.


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Pontology#1010
>beatings
A spanking is not a beating


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spanking only made me afraid of my father and terrified to confess anything i did wrong. it also made me redirect blame to my sister for most things to try and avoid it


[15-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
in the best possible case, spanking has no net harm


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Corporal punishment that isn't scarring often backfires into a seeking behaviour where the punishment turns into a reward


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Pontology#1010
It should only be used in exceptional circumstances.


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The dude you're talking about sounds like a real piece of work. Are you sure a single spanking session would be enough to correct his destructive behavior?


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Jeez, didn't know ODD was that bad


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I still have trouble confessing things i did wrong because subconsiously i fear being hit


[15-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And generally leads to outright resentment and fear of punishment, not respect or learning why something is wrong

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[15-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 It wasn't. He did have to be put in a special boarding school as a young adolescent for people with serious behavioral problems, as my parents feared for their physical safety.


[15-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Crow#5457
because in those cases, parents that spank their children explain to their children why they're being spanked,so they aren't left wondering why they're being punished


[15-Jul-20 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then the spanking did practically nothing to help him. Why are you bringing this up


[15-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Pontology#1010
It probably helped him not do that particular act again.


[15-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
in every other case where the reason is not clearly communicated, it is basically both physical and psychological torture for the child for seemingly no reason


[15-Jul-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or hide it better next time


[15-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/spanking-linked-to-increase-in-childrens-behavior-problems.html


[15-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Pontology#1010
I don't think he was ever spanked before age 5, so that article is irrelevant


[15-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-baby-scientist/201812/the-science-spanking

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[15-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Pontology#1010
I agree that before 5 it really should never be done, and after 5 only in severe, exceptional circumstances.


[15-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Pontology#1010
For most children it should never be necessary.


[15-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
> Why the change? Before the 1990s, physical punishment was the accepted method for disciplining children around the world and was generally thought of as distinct from physical abuse. Around that time, research suggesting that physical punishment had negative consequences for both children’s behavior and their emotional health started accumulating. Now the research overwhelmingly confirms these early findings, leading to the AAP’s change in policy.


[15-Jul-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that shit also follows you into adulthood

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[15-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
> Two important findings have guided these policy changes. First, research suggests that spanking isn’t actually effective in stopping children from engaging in disruptive behaviors. In terms of getting kids to do what you ask them to in the short term, spanking might cause a problem behavior to stop momentarily, but it is no more effective than other non-violent methods, like a timeout.
> 
> Most importantly, in the long term, spanking is associated with less compliance than other forms of discipline (Gershoff, 2013). Spanking likely doesn’t work as a form of punishment, because it causes physical pain, leading to fear and confusion in children, which could, in turn, interfere when the child is trying to learn the rule or message that a parent is attempting to convey (Gershoff, 2013). Further, when spanking is used to get children to stop behaving aggressively—to stop hitting other kids, for example—it is not only ineffective as a method of punishment, but it actually backfires.


[15-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Pontology#1010
I believe it, but these are generalizations, not one-size-fits-all


[15-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Pontology#1010
"Exceptional circumstances" means "exception"


[15-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
while i don't condone abuse.
there's some kids out there that spanking is the only thing they understand.


[15-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
hit people because they don't comply with you, seems legit


[15-Jul-20 11:40 PM] Sunnyside#3103
so proper discipline is necessary.


[15-Jul-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Why have your child speak to a counseler when you can just belt them in the ass?


[15-Jul-20 11:40 PM] Crow#5457
the studies unequivocally show that in every case, there is no benefit to hitting children, ever


[15-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
some children are angels
others are little demons


[15-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Pontology#1010
My other brother is severely mentally retarded. He would bite people, which would have prevented him from being able to go to the special education program. He can't remember anything past a few seconds or so, time-out is useless. The only way to get him to stop biting was an immediate slap on the hand and firm "NO" the instant he did so.


[15-Jul-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children are children, if they;re having issues, get them some help


[15-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
if you can identify the issues then yeah. get them the help.


[15-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Pontology#1010
It corrected the behavior (my parents tried everything else), and allowed him to go to the special education program, much much much better for him long-term than having to wear a ball-gag around people or something.


[15-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Pontology#1010
These are the "exceptions".


[15-Jul-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you cant identify the issue, take the child to someone who can


[15-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
... so you're saying that the problem was never actually solved with hitting, but by sending him to a special education program


[15-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Pontology#1010
No.


[15-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
maybe he should've been sent to the program to begin with instead of physically abused for something he can't control


[15-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Pontology#1010
He would not have been able to continue going to the special education program if he kept biting his classmates. He was going to be kicked out.


[15-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
no he is saying the kid was too rough to even be sent to special ed


[15-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they had to discipline him to the point where it was safe enough to even send him to said program.


[15-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't make any sense, how the hell do you know the hitting corrected the problem when he wasn't being hit in the special education program?


[15-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Pontology#1010
huh?


[15-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
did he bite any kid or teacher at the program following the disciplining?


[15-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Pontology#1010
Never again.


[15-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then that might have been then thing that solved the issue


[15-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
two things were done simultaneously, something which has been studied and proven to solve problems (special education), and something that has been studied and proven to not help in any situation (physical abuse)


[15-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Pontology#1010
He would bite people at home, too. It was a general behavioral problem. So correcting the biting at home corrected it generally.


[15-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Pontology#1010
@Crow He was going to be expelled from the special education program for his incorrigible biting.


[15-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Pontology#1010
He was a danger to his classmates and teachers and they couldn't fix it.


[15-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't sound right because that goes against the purpose of having special education to begin with


[15-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
scientifically speaking, there is no way to tell which one helped because they were both done simultaneously


[15-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Pontology#1010
You're not hearing me.


[15-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
special ed programs are not perfect crow. like with everything it's ability is limited to the environment, the funding, the resources, and the types of people teaching it.


[15-Jul-20 11:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
crow he is saying the kid was already in the special ed program.


[15-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
and they already did what they could and weren't able to get him to stop


[15-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Pontology#1010
^


[15-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
yes, I understand what is being said, but it's impossible to say whether the hitting caused it or the special education program finally started working


[15-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
then it can't be refuted then if ceo believes the hitting helped course correct the kid. he believes that it did. 
whether or not that's true is hard to say as neither you or I were there.


[15-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
except it can be refuted by the evidence presented, that hitting only hurts, never helps


[15-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Pontology#1010
The evidence doesn't say that, though.


[15-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Pontology#1010
It describes that as a generality, not a "in every single circumstance".


[15-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
there's exceptions to everything.
plus pain response is a legit thing in psychology


[15-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
don't touch stove as stove is hot.
don't bite kid as you get slapped.
so on and so on


[16-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1283517610404065280

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[16-Jul-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/507542-twitter-accounts-of-bill-gates-elon-musk-seemingly-hacked-to-promote

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Several prominent Twitter accounts, including those of former Vice President Joe Biden, Elon Musk and Bill Gates, were compromised Wednesday to post what is seemingly a bitcoin scam.
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[16-Jul-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/507536-trump-finalizes-rollback-of-bedrock-environmental-law-nepa

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The White House finalized its rollback of one of the nation’s bedrock environmental laws Wednesday, with President Trump calling the law the “single biggest obstacle” to major construction projects.
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[16-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Good. Article says it's not completely going away, just bad parts of it. Environmental effects like endangering local species and how it affects local communities will still be considered, hence why the process will still take 2 years, just not 4 like before.


[16-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Page limits without approval are still dumb. It's not all good.


[16-Jul-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The rollback removes requirements to consider climate change before proceeding on a project.
> 
> Protocols for weighing concerns from nearby communities — often communities of color — would become far more complex.
> 
> It also opens the door for more industry involvement in reviewing the environmental impacts of their projects or nixing reviews entirely for some projects that receive little federal funding.


[16-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Opponent#3498
deregulation is a swear word aint it :wheeze:


[16-Jul-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Jul-20 01:49 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53360399
Reproduction Rate on the rise.
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Still allowing yanks on holiday.
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[16-Jul-20 01:50 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html

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[16-Jul-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Jul-20 02:15 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Soooo... What political alignment do y'all position yourself in?


[16-Jul-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look i just wanna be a part of the real movement that abolishes the present state of things

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[16-Jul-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/507580-turbotax-hr-block-used-unfair-and-abusive-practices-to-get-more-money-out-of

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[16-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
nationalist, conservative


[16-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Pontology#1010
and freedom


[16-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010

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[16-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Synfag#9241
> Soooo... What political alignment do y'all position yourself in?

definitely not the same as with those *"mostly peaceful"* protesters


[16-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Pontology#1010
My compass is much more moderate that I might have expected due to how anti-authoritarian I am. My conservatism is only cultural, not statist.


[16-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Pontology#1010
And is American conservatism, of which the core component is conserving liberty.


[16-Jul-20 02:33 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/NYPDnews/status/1283439743028662275

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Three officers violently attacked by protesters crossing the Brooklyn Bridge. The officers sustained serious injuries. 

This is not peaceful protest, this will not be tolerated. https://t.co/cYuDX8G7ku
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[16-Jul-20 02:37 AM] Pontology#1010
The word "rioter" has been deleted from the dictionary, it seems.


[16-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Pontology#1010
I fear for my country.
Generally, not specific to this.


[16-Jul-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/507148-mcconnell-proposal-would-abandon-sick-workers i do too for different reasons

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McConnell proposal would abandon sick workers
For workers who become infected on the job, he would simply bar the courthouse door and leave them with no recourse.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_022520gn4_lead.jpg


[16-Jul-20 02:41 AM] RYDE#8862
That old coot is smiling like a smug turtle.


[16-Jul-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tl;dr mcconnell refuses to pass another releif bill unless it makes employers immune to lawsuits if employees get sick from being forced back to work


[16-Jul-20 02:41 AM] Pontology#1010
McConnell is completely right, employers should not be liable if their employees get sick. That's what health insurance is for.


[16-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is completely affordable. Mine is $58/month.


[16-Jul-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know the health insurance that refuses to cover them in these incidents


[16-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Pontology#1010
And nobody is being "forced to go back to work"


[16-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Pontology#1010
It's a free country. We're not slaves.


[16-Jul-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are if they wanna keep their jobs


[16-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ultimatums are not freedom


[16-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the choice is go back to work, or lose your job and probably your health coverage along with it


[16-Jul-20 02:43 AM] Pontology#1010
Every job has ultimatums... do your job or you get fired or laid off


[16-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, therefore not freedom


[16-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, capitalism isn't freedom. Very communist opinion.


[16-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
If we all worked for the government, then we'd be free. /s


[16-Jul-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
describe which part of an ultimatum is freedom


[16-Jul-20 02:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Freedom to take it or do another job


[16-Jul-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You either do what i say or you die hungry in a dead job market with no health coverage"


[16-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is exactly what I did, actually, when my previous employer mandated we move to online teaching for May-June due to covid.


[16-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Pontology#1010
I said "no" and got another job. I hate teaching online.


[16-Jul-20 02:46 AM] Pontology#1010
My employer's ultimatum was part of their freedom of association and continued employment offer, and my not taking it was part of mine.


[16-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Pontology#1010
If there were no private businesses and everyone worked for the government like in communist countries, there is no freedom like that. I'd have to do the government's ultimatum, no other employer possible.


[16-Jul-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Do you have a family to feed?


[16-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Not yet.


[16-Jul-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
many people dont have the luxury of saying no, because it would literally starve their families


[16-Jul-20 02:49 AM] Pontology#1010
Food stamps exist


[16-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Pontology#1010
so do unemployment benefits while looking for a new job


[16-Jul-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/policy-basics-the-supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

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Policy Basics: The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
In a typical month in 2018, SNAP helped more than 40 million low-income Americans afford a nutritionally adequate diet.
https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/costs_infocus.png


[16-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Ironically, due to the stimulus bill, unemployment benefits are often higher than the original salaries


[16-Jul-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and those are due to expire


[16-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, but not until you get a new job.


[16-Jul-20 02:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
had to go all the way back through #politics  to  02/12/2018 to get this. not taking the whole test again.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-2.63&soc=-2.15

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[16-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Pontology#1010
provided you do so within 3 months, which is pretty reasonable. Depends on state.


[16-Jul-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i meant the benefits


[16-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Pontology#1010
You mean the extra covid benefits on top of the ordinary unemployment benefits? Yes, they expire at the end of this month. Regular unemployment benefits do not.


[16-Jul-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also there;s a massive problem when the unemployment outdoes the regular wages, whent he regular wages are barely enough to cover a family or a single home owner


[16-Jul-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but apparently asking for a living wage is communism


[16-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Pontology#1010
America is an extremely wealthy country in which it is expensive to rent or own land.


[16-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Pontology#1010
The average American is in the global 1%.


[16-Jul-20 02:54 AM] Pontology#1010
"Living wage". My apartment rent was $275/month. I moved out of California to a cheaper place.


[16-Jul-20 02:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody is forced to live in an expensive area or state. We're _free._


[16-Jul-20 02:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Anybody can afford $275/month rent plus food costs on minimum wage.


[16-Jul-20 02:55 AM] Pontology#1010
With leftovers to set aside for retirement.


[16-Jul-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so jobs are not supposed to support you financially?


[16-Jul-20 02:56 AM] Pontology#1010
No, of course not. A lot of jobs are for people like teenagers who don't need to be supported financially by the job.


[16-Jul-20 02:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Communistic nazis


[16-Jul-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so thne whats the point of jobs?


[16-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Damn, I forgot to scroll


[16-Jul-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what;s in it for me to obtain a job if not to support myself financialy?


[16-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And who's supposed to work at those jobs during the day when all the teenagers are at school?


[16-Jul-20 02:58 AM] Pontology#1010
As an adult who isn't semi-retired or otherwise able to fulfill their costs with money external to the job, nothing, which is why you shouldn't accept a job offer like that if that's your situation.


[16-Jul-20 02:58 AM] Pontology#1010
And should find another job, maybe become better qualified through community college, or just move to a cheaper place like where I lived in Florida for $275/month


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if all job offers are liek that in my area?


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Unfortunately, there just aren't enough high-paying jobs to go around.

It's not an unwillingness to work. It's mass unemployment of *qualified* workers.


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Move to a different area.


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if i cannot afford to move out of my area?


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Your solutions are contingent on already not being poor.


[16-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Just move" isn't something that someone who's already struggling can really do.


[16-Jul-20 03:00 AM] Pontology#1010
You can. There are greyhound busses nationally.


[16-Jul-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
greyhound busses dont come to my area


[16-Jul-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
atleast not for pick up


[16-Jul-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also how does riding a greyhound help me afford a new house/apartment?


[16-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Pontology#1010
If you can't afford $275/month, you have bigger problems – like not being able to hold down a minimum-wage job


[16-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Where does it cost $275 to live?


[16-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because somebody hook me up with that.


[16-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Pontology#1010
My neighbor in that place was a formerly homeless person, by the way. He saved up for the down-payment, used gym showers to, well, shower, got a job and moved in.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm sure it varies by area, but around here even the one-bedroom apartments are like $600.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
implying everyone has access to gym showers


[16-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And that's not getting into gas, groceries, utilities, etc. It adds up.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Pontology#1010
You're just determined to be a helpless victim, aren't you.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Pontology#1010
kobold, not you


[16-Jul-20 03:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anything, I think Kobold wants to... *not* be a victim? Like, they want a better situation instead of just rolling over and taking it.


[16-Jul-20 03:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Kobold, the only areas where things are unaffordable are the big cities, which always have gym showers. You keep trying to poke holes, it doesn't work.


[16-Jul-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in the middle of farmland nowhere, we dont have gyms to shower in, our jobs are low paying retail and due to the greed of banks, our housing costs mroe than it should, and if you dont own a car, you;re kind of stranded


[16-Jul-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont have public busses either


[16-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Pontology#1010
but the housing cost there is not unaffordable on minimum wage. If it were, your whole rural area would collapse.


[16-Jul-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who says it;s not collapsing?


[16-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Then it's collapsing and the banks will get screwed.


[16-Jul-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that doesnt help us even if they do get screwed


[16-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Interestingly, my city's actually going to be one of the 12 or 13 or so to trial-run UBI in the near future. It's going to be privately funded, but I am very curious to see what effects it's going to have on the local economy.


[16-Jul-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would welcome UBI, i woudl save that shit up and set myself up soem level of mobility to raise my situation


[16-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Nope, it doesn't. If your whole area collapses—like many ghost-towns have—and it becomes a ghost-town, then that's what happens.


[16-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Pontology#1010
But if it's the banks' fault, then artificially increasing minimum wage only bails out the banks from what should be their collapse due to greed, if the situation is as you describe. Banks win, increase prices more thanks to the government subsidizing them through you.


[16-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd say to not make it about increasing wages, then. I'm more in favor of state-provided basic income to cover necessities like housing, which of course people would work *on top of* to earn more money to get more than just their essentials. 

In that scenario, a person could realistically live on $7.25 an hour because - at the very least - they probably don't have to worry about losing their home constantly.


[16-Jul-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'd have more incentive to work if i had a safety net keeping me afloat


[16-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Synfag#9241
higher taxes


[16-Jul-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the taxees do what they;re supposed to do, then sure


[16-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a fair tradeoff. Of course, you could also *allocate* the taxes they take *now* better.


[16-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Synfag#9241
> if the taxees do what they;re supposed to do, then sure
@prism stryder(intexda) 

you know they won't


[16-Jul-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of beign used to bail out walmart every 3 months because it had a heart attack


[16-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Pontology#1010

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[16-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Massive welfare exists already; it's just going to corporations instead of the workers.


[16-Jul-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we shoudl privatize everything and be at the mercy of corporations wanting mroe money?


[16-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think they would, actually. Almost nobody would try to just coast on their UBI alone and stay unemployed. They give you enough for the essentials, which *most* people are going to want more than. Hence, people will still work.


[16-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Synfag#9241
> Massive welfare exists 

so will massive taxes


[16-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Synfag#9241
and massive demand for more welfare


[16-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Synfag#9241
the cycle continues


[16-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yet, the average American will pay *less* for healthcare and basic costs than under the current system. Look at almost any other developed country in the world, and - yes - taxes are higher, but people can afford what they need much more despite paying those higher taxes.


[16-Jul-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
higher taxes are worth it when the system actually benefits you for paying them


[16-Jul-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
decent healthcare, a better food stamp program, good school and infrustructure funding


[16-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Pontology#1010
In Belgium, the poor are taxed at 25% from their first penny. Contrast with the U.S. where 47% of people pay no income tax at all.


[16-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Synfag#9241
higher taxes results in higher prices on everything


[16-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Pontology#1010
If you want europe-style, you need to tax the poor like they do.


[16-Jul-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
again the poor reap the benefits of it


[16-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Synfag#9241
resulting in higher demand for more welfare


[16-Jul-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can go into a hospital and receive care witohut going into crippling debt from a million dollar hospital bill


[16-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Synfag#9241
which get funded by higher taxes


[16-Jul-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and higher prices arent an issue if you actually put regulations in place to cap prices


[16-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Synfag#9241
you know that's not happening


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
Price caps cap supply, creating shortages


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Pontology#1010
basic economics.


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
australia says otherwise, mate


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Synfag#9241
australia


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Synfag#9241
always australia


[16-Jul-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as does new zealand


[16-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Pontology#1010
If they don't experience shortages, then they just haven't reached enough demand yet.


[16-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Synfag#9241
that hellscape in the southern hemisphere


[16-Jul-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and canada


[16-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Do these governments mandate private production of certain goods?


[16-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Pontology#1010
Which is—by the way—economic fascism, in a technical sense.


[16-Jul-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have their own producers who create the drugs cheap and sell them for cheap because msot drugs only cost about 10 cents to a dollar to make


[16-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think the governments just pay for them.


[16-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Synfag#9241
canada
oh canada
the liberal dystopia where canadians are treated as second class citizens to globalism

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[16-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Second to who?


[16-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Pontology#1010
https://apps.tga.gov.au/prod/MSI/search

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Medicine Shortages Information Initiative
The Medicine Shortages Information Initiative provides information about prescription


[16-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because from where I'm sitting, Canadian citizens have got it pretty good compared to us.


[16-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Um. Australia has a list of their drug shortages. They have a lot.


[16-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
And that's not just due to covid, they were having these in 2019


[16-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Pontology#1010
if you scroll down.


[16-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
The ones from 2019 have still not been addressed, which is why they're still on that page.


[16-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Pontology#1010
This is what price controls do. They eliminate the market incentive for production when the cost of production exceeds the price control.


[16-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, we have the opposite problem here, where uncontrolled prices can be *so* prohibitively high that people die of treatable illnesses. Surely it doesn't have to be either extreme.


[16-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Pontology#1010
That's fundamentally due to not having insurance. Obama instated a tax penalty for not being insured, de facto requiring it (and it is really affordable, again mine is $58/month).


[16-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Didn't help much.


[16-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, and I disagree with that. The penalty was a bad move.

I voted for Obama because I thought (and still think) he was the better option in 2008 and 2012, but I still have a lot of problems with his policies.


[16-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Synfag#9241
luckily, you might get that Obama third term when Biden wins


[16-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bleh. I'll grit my teeth and vote Biden because I kinda *have* to, but it's definitely a compromise.


[16-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Hah. 22nd amendment prohibits obama from running again


[16-Jul-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really need to change up our voting system


[16-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Honahue#0656
damn son you really trying to pull some basic econ with a natural monopoly like pharmicuticals take an intro to econ class and they'll tell you that perfect competition senerio literally only exists as a thought experiment. besides a supply gap in medication isn't like a supply gap in a game, it shouldn't be subject to market forces or people will die like happens all the time in the US due to insulin rationing


[16-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
CEO, I think they just meant that a Biden presidency would *fundamentally* be another Obama term.


[16-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which I see as a step up, don't get me wrong, but I still wanted Bernie.


[16-Jul-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe get rid of primaries entirely


[16-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
@Honahue I actually agree and agree with limited economic fascism—i.e. government mandating certain areas of the private sector produce designated amounts of required goods.


[16-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Like Trump did when he mandated production of ventilators.


[16-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Corporations can stockpile their extras to prevent shortages of certain really required goods (like vital drugs), since—as you essentially point out—the market takes time to equilibrate


[16-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think there are situations where mandating production can be fine if there's a pressing need for it, yeah.


[16-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Synfag#9241
> don't get me wrong, but I still wanted Bernie.

Bernie is already helping Biden with things


[16-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Synfag#9241
Trump even listed those new items in Biden's campaign


[16-Jul-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I hope biden continues listening to bernie, but i'd rather have had him directly.


[16-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Pontology#1010
But there's a big difference between economic fascism and socialism. In economic fascism, like China does, the corporations are still fundamentally privately owned.


[16-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Pontology#1010
and competitive.


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
China runs the country like one big company


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
with the CCP as management
and citizens as workers


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8521787/Paedophile-54-used-public-Wi-Fi-download-child-porn-hospital.html

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Paedophile, 54, used public Wi-Fi to download child porn in hospital
Julie Marshall, 54, was caught after accessing the images from her hospital bed using public Wi-Fi while recovering from a heart attack in August 2017, Preston Crown Court heard.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/14/22/30768132-0-image-a-17_1594762014921.jpg


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
and using anti competitive practices on other countries


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>A trans woman who had amassed around 80,000 images of child sexual abuse over a period of 14 years has been jailed for 9 months


[16-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
wow, what a

A.) Creep, and

B.) Moron


[16-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I wonder why just 9 months


[16-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Synfag, yes. I am not an economic fascist. It should only be used in limited, extenuating circumstances.


[16-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Synfag#9241
I understand what you said


[16-Jul-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/brad-parscale-is-demoted-from-role-as-trumps-campaign-manager-2020-7

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Trump demotes Brad Parscale, brings on Bill Stepien as new campaign...
President Donald Trump announced on Facebook that Parscale will now serve as a senior adviser for data and digital operations.
https://i.insider.com/5f0fa6293f73703fb64123f4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Jul-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507594-maine-poised-to-allow-ranked-voting-for-president-after-state-ruling

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Maine poised to allow ranked voting for president after state ruling
Registered voters in Maine could be the first American voters to utilize a ranked voting system in November's presidential election as the state's GOP failed to produce enough signatures to block the system from being used.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/statecapitolbuildings_maine_augusta_thinkstock.jpg

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[16-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That would be amazing. It could give third-party candidates an actual viable shot if people felt less trapped by the two-party system and were more willing to vote for them.


[16-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Pontology#1010
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[16-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Pontology#1010
This is great. Progressives are finally coming around to that there is such a thing as white culture.


[16-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Pontology#1010
This is from the National Museum of Africa-American history, in their section talking about race.


[16-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Aspects of white culture include the nuclear family, individualism, autonomy, rational linear thinking.


[16-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Hard work ethic, time schedules.


[16-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that's silly.

"Whiteness" isn't a culture. Predominantly white groups of people have cultures like being Irish, Italian, etc. though.


[16-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Planning for the future, delayed gratification.


[16-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
these are mostly Calvinist things so the got the protestant part right


[16-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Take it up with the progressives challenging so-called whiteness, challenging "white culture" in the process.


[16-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
The infographic has some loaded language to try to cast things in a negative light, but overall is extremely flattering.


[16-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Honahue#0656
wealth = worth is 100% prosperity gospel and unbiblical but I guess they never said it was actually consistant


[16-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This infographic is misinformed and doesn't represent how I or many progressives feel. 

The idea of unifying these disparate cultural groups under the vague umbrella of "whiteness" is a disservice to the unique aspects of the individual cultures they come from. And similarly, black people from different parts of the world aren't some monolithic culture either.

The experience of African Americans, African British, and native Africans are meaningfully different enough that trying to lump them all together as "black culture" doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.


[16-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh yes. This is specifically about white American culture.


[16-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Pontology#1010
There isn't such a thing as global white culture other than having Christianity and Greco-Roman classics in common.


[16-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Pontology#1010
maybe classical music


[16-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/minimum-wage-workers-cannot-afford-rent-in-any-us-state.html

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Minimum wage workers cannot afford rent in any U.S. state
Full-time minimum wage workers cannot afford a two-bedroom rental anywhere in the U.S. and cannot afford a one-bedroom rental in 95% of U.S. counties, according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition's annual "Out of Reach" report.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106615555-1594739863418cooking-in-progress-in-the-kitchen_t20_8brdyq.jpg?v=1594739919


[16-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Crow#5457
reminder


[16-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Crow#5457
there's no place in the US where a full-time minimum wage worker can afford a two-bedroom apartment, and they can't afford a one-bedroom apartment in 95% of counties in the US


[16-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not sure I necessarily think there's a white American culture either, since white people in different regions have pretty different norms. Religiosity is a lot more common in the southeast compared to other parts of the country for *all* races.


[16-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh yes. https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7

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This map shows how the US really has 11 separate 'nations' with ent...
From the utopian "Yankeedom" to the conservative "Greater Appalachia," looking at these cultures sheds a light on America's political divides.
https://i.insider.com/55b284a82acae711008b9c71?width=1200&format=jpeg


[16-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Pontology#1010
The rough cultural spheres of America. Very inexact, but approximate.


[16-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Crow#5457
also, for the record, advocating for corporal punishment is a very authoritarian take


[16-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. I'm in the deep red zone despite ending up with pretty much the opposite views.


[16-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Depends what you mean by corporal punishment. I only advocate the death penalty for genocidal mass-murderers.


[16-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yeah, I'm very much opposed to corporal *and* capital punishment.


[16-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Maybe not single murder, or any case where there's a shred of doubt.


[16-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Pontology#1010
Only mass murderers, especially the genocidal ones who shoot up synagogues and the like.


[16-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
corporal punishment for children


[16-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I also think most people in prison don't belong there.

Prison should be primarily a place to quarantine dangerous people, moreso than a place to punish people. So people that are violent and dangerous, sure, lock them away. People who get caught with drugs should not be in jail, which is a huge, *huge* contingent of people.


[16-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
it's a throwback to the idea that children should be raised like they're in the military, which is also an authoritarian way of preparing children for the "eternal war" in fascism


[16-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
I agree about drugs.


[16-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Only major distributors of drugs should be in jail, not petty consumers.


[16-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
fascism collapses without an outside enemy to rally against


[16-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Anecdotally too, every *really bad* kid I went to high school with talked openly about how their parents "beat their asses" all the time. Didn't seem to work too well, since these kids were always in trouble constantly.


[16-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. I don't advocate corporal punishment. I only said that in exceptional cases it can be good. Key word exceptional. Not most children.


[16-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
A blanket-ban on spanking children is a bad idea.


[16-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Pontology#1010
at the same time, for most children, spanking them ever is a bad idea.


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd be for it. I don't think there's a situation where physically striking a child is appropriate. There are always other ways.


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Authoritarian.


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for me all spanking ever did was make me terrified of my dad, and afraid to admit to shit.


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's protecting the rights of the child. It's like saying it's "authoritarian" to have a law against battery.


[16-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Nobody is hurt with a petty hand-slap.


[16-Jul-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spanking is not a petty hand slap


[16-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Which was necessary, I think, with my mentally disabled brother for whom time-out is meaningless. I explained the situation earlier.


[16-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, of course they are. It's *supposed* to hurt. That's the whole idea.

It's not supposed to be injurious but it's supposed to hurt them. And it does, physically and - perhaps more importantly - psychologically.


[16-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Pontology#1010
My brother not being able to go to special ed due to biting people would have hurt him more.


[16-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Pontology#1010
and the special ed teachers not able to stop him from biting


[16-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Crow#5457
btw, hitting kids with autism/downs syndrome is even more abusive than regular specifically because they have no way of communicate that works for them, if someone with those disorders is biting or otherwise hitting people, that's because they're frustrated without having a way to communicate properly


[16-Jul-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spanking is taking a child upon your knee and railing trhem int he ass with the open palm of your hand until they're crying


[16-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You can restrain a child if they're being absolutely inconsolable but that's not the same as hitting them.


[16-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Which was better for him, restraining him for the rest of his life, or 1 hand-slap each time he bit someone to stop the behavior forever?


[16-Jul-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or if you want to get especially cruel, using a belt or a paddle


[16-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Crow#5457
I was trying to find a tweet chain earlier about a behavioral therapist worked with a kid that bites/hits next to her on an 8 hour flight to finally figure out a way of communication that worked for him, he became much less violent and seemed a lot happier


[16-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling that the real thing that solved your brother's problem was that they finally found a method of communication that worked for him


[16-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Pontology#1010
I really don't like the assumption here that some government knows my brother better than I do.


[16-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
you need incredibly specialized training to be able to properly work with people with extreme cases of developmental disorders


[16-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
He does require special communication. There's a sort of pigdin language that only the immediate family knows, for how to talk with him.


[16-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Knowing exactly his vocabulary and cognitive capacity and build-up modes of communication


[16-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
No special ed teacher knows how to talk with him better than I and my immediate family know how to. Again, it really is a pidgin language.


[16-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
this field is probably one of the newest fields of psychology, before we would just say "fuck it" and throw them in a mental institution where they would be abused even more by strangers for not behaving


[16-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
But when he had his autistic fits, that all went out the window.


[16-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
yes, but who developed the language? that's typically something that takes years to develop without help, a trained specialist can do it in hours


[16-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
a trained specialist could learn the pidgin language in hours?


[16-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Crow#5457
no, develop a means of communication


[16-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
which often includes pidgin language, or something as simple as pointing to pictures of things they're holding


[16-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
I feel like this is so dripping with presumptive superciliousness. The pidgin language took really his whole life to build, due to his extremely limited cognitive capacity. It was a long back-and-forth over the course of two decades.


[16-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
It's not something one can invent, because _he can't learn_ (IQ is about 20)


[16-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's often very hard to directly communicate with people that have certain mental disorders, especially if they're severe


[16-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
So the process of building it was a two-decade process of him learning about 50 words and how to put them together into 2-word sentences


[16-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not familiar enough with this particular area of development to really weigh in. I work with students with mild special needs, so what works with them is very different.

It does sound like you and your family have done a lot to help him communicate more effectively though, and that's great to hear.


[16-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.boredpanda.com/nonverbal-autism-kid-plane-experience-speech-language-pathologist-rachel-romeo/

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Speech Pathologist Sits Next To Autistic Boy For 8 Hours During Fli...
Sometimes everything just falls into place.
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/nonverbal-autism-kid-plane-experience-speech-language-pathologist-rachel-romeo-fb.png


[16-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Crow#5457
took me forever to find, not sure why, I could've sworn I opened the original tweet chain in my browser


[16-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
He's seen a number of speech pathologists.


[16-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/Lsue3kv

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Affirming Experience
https://i.imgur.com/PZLq4d8h.jpg


[16-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
And yes, he's used a communication board.


[16-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Crow#5457
found the entire thing, it was on imgur, that's why I thought I saw the original


[16-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Pontology#1010
He doesn't just have autism though, but also down syndrome. Double whammy.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.prentrom.com/caregivers/what-is-augmentative-and-alternative-communication-aac

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What Is AAC? - AAC & Speech Devices from PRC
Augmentative and alternative communication, or AAC, is a term that's used to describe various methods of communication that can help people who are unable to use verbal speech to communicate. AAC methods vary and may be personalized to meet each individual's needs.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, it's good. Things like communication boards are amazing.


[16-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Pontology#1010
My parents did it all. The opposite of neglect. House was full of books on things about his conditions and communication etc.


[16-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Pontology#1010
Several professionals, everything.


[16-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
High involvement with the "community" of other parents of the mentally disabled, they all shared resources.


[16-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Pontology#1010
A large part of my parents', and my, disdain for government regulation comes from California banning institutions for the mentally disabled.


[16-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.kqed.org/stateofhealth/157765/californias-last-institutions-for-developmentally-disabled-to-be-closed

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California's Last Institutions for Developmentally Disabled to be C...
The plan is the latest — and last — move in California’s shift away from providing care in large residential centers.
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[16-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Pontology#1010
> In the newer model of care, he said, “people can make their own decisions about their own life,” rather than having their daily schedule dictated by an institution.


[16-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Pontology#1010
This is well and fine for those with an IQ around 50, but not for those like my brother who are _severely_ mentally disabled and can't make any decision about anything, other than asking for pizza or hamburgers or sprite.


[16-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Government superciliousness and presumptiveness, thinking they know better than parents the special needs of their own children and what's best for them.


[16-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Pontology#1010
Actually, the article has that exact perspective:
> "That thought is cold comfort for Christina Nielsen, whose son Tom has lived off and on for the past eight years at the Costa Mesa facility, known as the Fairview Developmental Center. He has severe autism and is called a “runner.”
> 
> “Tom has a long history of wandering away and running,” Nielsen said. A court order placed him in the Fairview center and he needs to stay there, she added.
> 
> The closure of the centers, Nielsen said, “is a death sentence for my son, and others like him.”


[16-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
Exactly right. My brother is like Nielsen's son.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
institutions for the mentally disabled are very infamous for being rife with abuse


[16-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Crow#5457
but yeah, that's the neoliberal nature of california and the US at large, no public funding


[16-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
which is exactly what both the left and the right are protesting, the left protesting because they think everyone deserves public funding, the right protesting because they think only certain people deserve public funding


[16-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Crow#5457
while neoliberals say "no public funding ever, profit margin small mean life bad"


[16-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Not even the most hardcore conservatives support no public funding for the severely disabled who genuinely can't care for themselves. Maybe extremist libertarians. Not neoliberals, which is a vague term but generally refers to people in the mainstream.


[16-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

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Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism and free market capitalism. It is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization including privatization, deregulation, globali...
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[16-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Crow#5457
> It is generally associated with policies of economic liberalization including privatization, deregulation, globalization, free trade, austerity, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society


[16-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, not to be confused with anarcho-capitalism


[16-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Crow#5457
they're basically ancaps in disguise


[16-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Sunnyside#3103
yes the mental institutions were rife were abuse but do you know what happened when a lot of those were shut down instead of reformed?
those mentally ill patients became homeless.  many of them ending up in jails or dying on the streets


[16-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
that doesn't seem like much of a improvement to me'


[16-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Sunnyside#3103
sure hospitals have pysche wards but they only can hold them up to a month at most before having to release them


[16-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Pontology#1010
It's really a good thing. Schizophrenics who refused to take their meds used to be forcibly institutionalized.


[16-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Pontology#1010
A series of court cases ruled that schizophrenics can be free and refuse to take their meds if they want. Half of homeless are schizophrenic.


[16-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Pontology#1010
The homelessness issue is fundamentally intractable because they're 50% crazy people who refuse to take their meds.


[16-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm talking more on the subject of quality of life.


[16-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Pontology#1010
Probably, but I always side with freedom, including the freedom to refuse to take your meds and be homeless if you want.


[16-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
half is higher than even the highest estimates


[16-Jul-20 05:14 AM] Crow#5457
the highest estimates are in the 20% range


[16-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
20-25% have "severe" mental illness, says google


[16-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Pontology#1010
More are mentally ill, but yes, inasmuch as schizophrenia is probably classified as severe, my numbers were off, thanks.


[16-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Crow#5457
yes, that was for schizophrenia specifically


[16-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. Google says 45% are mentally ill generally


[16-Jul-20 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology about #general-discussion , i do believe circumcision may cause some problems upon sensitivity, but i have a hard time believing your claim about drug abuse


[16-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Pontology#1010
http://www.noharmm.org/bju.htm


[16-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Peer-reviewed _British Journal of Urology_, just hosted on an anti-circ site.


[16-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Pontology#1010
original is probably behind a paywall


[16-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Pontology#1010
Mind you, this is Britain where only 6% of people are circumcised and they don't have the pro-circumcision propaganda like we do. Figures in America are surely different.


[16-Jul-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[16-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Pontology#1010
https://babylonbee.com/news/hackers-suspected-as-biden-posts-complete-coherent-thought-on-twitter

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Hack Suspected As Biden Posts Complete, Coherent Thought On Twitter
U.S.—Hackers have been blamed as Joe Biden posted a complete, coherent thought on Twitter earlier today.As soon as Twitter support saw that Biden had posted several complete sentences in a tweet, they immediately locked his account down, suspecting a hack."The full, rational s...
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[16-Jul-20 05:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
What a dumbass trap.
If you click that bullshit just because muh celebrity told you to, you deserve to have your money stolen. Fools.


[16-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1283600010848894976

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BREAKING: Kemp voids all of Georgia’s local mask mandates.

Virus is worse today than at any point. So is Kemp.
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[16-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Pontology#1010
This is progressive https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lincoln-county-oregon-exempts-people-of-color-from-mandatory-coronavirus-mask-policy/

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People of color are exempt from Oregon county's mandatory mask order
"People of color who have heightened concerns about racial profiling and harassment due to wearing face coverings in public" are exempt from the rule, according to the county website.
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[16-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Pontology#1010
Requiring everyone to wear face masks is racist.


[16-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Pontology#1010
So good for Kemp for not subjecting PoC to police harassment by requiring them to wear face masks.


[16-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Pontology#1010
/s


[16-Jul-20 06:01 AM] PwnyPony#6185
when the police racism problem is so bad you have to exempt races from certain laws to protect them.


[16-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Pontology#1010
_yikes_


[16-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Pontology#1010
I mean, I agree with different sets of laws for different races

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[16-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Pontology#1010
It's basically what the tribal autonomy of reservations are, and now what eastern oklahoma will be that it's a reservation. Natives will have the tribal laws, while non-natives will be subject to state laws.


[16-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm just shocked this is a progressive opinion, but it is.


[16-Jul-20 06:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhh, depends, nobody is sure what sort of government tribal eastern Oklahoma would have in regards to legislation


[16-Jul-20 06:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Plus, the recent ruling was about a loophole


[16-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Pontology#1010
True, it's more my speculation. It's almost certainly not like suddenly the million people in Tulsa will no longer be subject to state law. I'd bet a lot that it's the agreement they work out.


[16-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Pontology#1010
Where the whites in the big cities in the newly-formed reservation are subject to state laws, while the natives there are subject to tribal laws.


[16-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/507603-confederate-flag-banner-flies-over-bristol-motor-speedway-after

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A Confederate flag banner was flown over the Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee on Wednesday ahead of NASCAR’s All-Star Race.
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[16-Jul-20 06:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This'd be contrived tho, as it violates the old concept of Westphalian sovereignty and thus a significant part of bourgeois liberal ideology


[16-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lincoln Derangement Syndrome has never gone away


[16-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think I'd be _too_ opposed to extending this principal generally, kind of that stateless nationalism you linked (austro-marxism, was it?). Blacks are subject to black-created laws, whites to white-created laws, etc, in completely different court systems. It'd solve a lot of things and give blacks the national autonomy so many want.


[16-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Rather than being victim to what the african-american museum describes as "White culture" as regards legislative policy


[16-Jul-20 06:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not sure about that as the concept i presented also depends on the abolition of bourgeois nationalism and law concepts by themselves


[16-Jul-20 06:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
With no borders, no profit motive and no incentive to conquer or subdue other nations, cultures would be more focused on inclusion rather than exclusion, and "cultural borders" would be more like areas of contact and mixture than separation


[16-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Pontology#1010
As first, the neo-segregation of progressives shocked and appalled me. But it's really grown on me.


[16-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Black-only dorms and the like. It's a good thing.


[16-Jul-20 06:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not -- it divides the working class and breaks up their communication avenues and thus its organization prowess


[16-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Pontology#1010
>mfw progressives are actually my greatest allies against communism


[16-Jul-20 06:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In my honest opinion, the only valid identitarian struggle is "proletarian against everyone else", although backlash against racism with the intent on incorporating minorities into the working class is welcome


[16-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Yep, that's what I'm referencing. They generally get it right.


[16-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Aside from a bit of loaded language.
Oh, deleted.


[16-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, saw you posted it.


[16-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Pontology#1010
Just five years ago, the idea that there was such a thing as "white culture" was regarded as white-supremacist


[16-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Pontology#1010
It's fantastic that progressives are coming around.


[16-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Pontology#1010
That we're culturally different.


[16-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a generic white culture generally from random hyphenated European-descended Americans, yes


[16-Jul-20 06:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, they're just incapable of thinking society in terms of class


[16-Jul-20 06:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So are you


[16-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Swedish-American and the Hungarian-American four generations out from Europe have no real connections to Europe


[16-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. Wikipedia calls "white American" an ethnic group. It's kind of become one, with its distinct culture.


[16-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That came with American civic nationalism, which is white-focused.


[16-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Delayed gratification" being bad tho


[16-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, all of the ideals of what it means to be American (individualism, etc) are fundamentally white culture. It's why I question how well America can survive as whites become a minority.


[16-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are these people who failed the Marshmallow Test and are mad about it


[16-Jul-20 06:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not whites, but the petit-bourgeoisie and middle class


[16-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Pontology#1010
>Implying white culture is bad


[16-Jul-20 06:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As this class gets thinned out and its members get increasingly proletarianized, class struggle becomes very likely and the old "American dream" is revealed for what it has always been, a farce


[16-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Bland is best"


[16-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People realize that this comes from Northern Europe and is outdated right


[16-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
kek, true though isn't it. It's why American food generally sucks. Casseroles, hot dogs.


[16-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, Northern European immigration to the Upper Midwest.


[16-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Pontology#1010
And the meme of white people not being able to handle anything spicy. It's not part of their culture.


[16-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the more interesting books I've read is a collection of restaurant reviews from North Dakota


[16-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Slowly over the course of 30 years it turns from nearly every restaurant being Scandinavian to just national fast food


[16-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But is losing lutefisk to Taco Bell really a net loss?


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[16-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Honahue#0656
all of that whit culture stuff is just Calvinism which somehow managed to become the most sociopathic Christian denomination which is amazing concidering the competition it has


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[16-Jul-20 07:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>political compass
Lame


[16-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't like you criticizing my culture like that, but this is why we have cultural segregation in the form of nations.


[16-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Or did.


[16-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Pontology#1010
There's barely a single bad thing about white culture.

> "Nuclear family, individualism, autonomy, rational linear thinking.
> Hard work ethic, time schedules, planning for the future, delayed gratification."


[16-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
And you call that "basically calvinism".


[16-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, you can kindly culturally segregate yourself away with your collectivist non-autonomy opposed to rational linear thinking, time schedules, or planning for the future.

White culture is why white people have created something like 90% of the world's technological achievements.


[16-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.0&soc=-5.49

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[16-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
this was me like 3 years ago


[16-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.63&soc=-8.26

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[16-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Crow#5457
this is me as of now


[16-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Pontology#1010
ancom


[16-Jul-20 07:23 AM] Pontology#1010
So long as you know you're an extremist :shrug:


[16-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Pontology#1010
This explains a lot.


[16-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Right, you're literally an international socialist, for appropriate definitions of socialism.


[16-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Pontology#1010
USSR ideology but less auth


[16-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
the USSR was literally the upper left part of that map


[16-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Antagonista#8566
Even not USSR.


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Honahue#0656
kek what even if these charts weren't a joke AnCom is Kropotkin not USSR


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
and tbh I'm not really that extreme because I don't call for the deaths of those I disagree with


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
@Crow You still want to abolish all nations and have a one-world socialist government


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Pontology#1010
That's literally international socialism, the end-goal of the USSR and communism generally.


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, that doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world, but I would recommend some degrees of separation in the forms of guilds/unions


[16-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Honahue#0656
damn cause ancoms don't really like governments that's part of the anarchy


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@Pontology dont worry, the world will be united as a one-world government once we settle Mars & declare world war :twiright:


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, Crow is ancom-lite. He wants a one-world government.


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
I still believe in government too


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
... no I don't, I literally just said I think there should be some degrees of separation


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] wren#0114
political compas is a meme


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
and yes, the political compass isn't something you should be taking that seriously either


[16-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Wait what, am I confusing you with the person who wanted global authority to ensure human rights?


[16-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
it's literally the memiest of the political "tests"


[16-Jul-20 07:29 AM] wren#0114
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[16-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't represent people very well


[16-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Honahue#0656
ah yea, the South Park Libertarian Apathist alignment


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh, I'm sorry. I confused you with Luna (Princess Nebbie). You're both blue and far-left.


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] wren#0114
it's like 6 really vague questions per topic, with loaded meanings


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
but our names aren't even close to similar...


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Nebbie is the international socialist who wants a one-world government.


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie


[16-Jul-20 07:30 AM] wren#0114
and then ppl are tempted to choose the answers based on what seems like it would fit where they want to end up


[16-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
afaik he doesn't want a one world government, but he thinks there should be international laws that all governments are beholden to


[16-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Pontology#1010

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[16-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Like the UN but with massive force. Sounds like a one-world government to me.


[16-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
that's still only an institution where all of the current governments on the planet still exist, not an outright government


[16-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Pontology#1010
To enforce their governance upon the constituent nations


[16-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Pontology#1010
by force


[16-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Pontology#1010
And being a member is not optional


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Imagine the UN except it shoots Trump dead.


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Sounds like word games. Each state of the United States is semi-autonomous, but all are subject to the federal government to which each sends representatives.


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
lol


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then tells America to try again.


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
also, the degree of connection is way smaller than an outright government is, it's about policing civil rights violations


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Would you unironically support that, Nebbie?


[16-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's my dream, fam.


[16-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok, so a one-world **hard**-authoritarian leftist government


[16-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
that's not how authoritarianism works...


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no guys, we decided to shoot people who kill kids!


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty sure shooting democratically elected people of foreign nations dead is authoritarian


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's LITERALLY HITLER!


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
what


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
trump wasn't democratically elected


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Crow#5457
he lost the popular vote


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] wren#0114
what did I walk into


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Pontology#1010
Luna wants a one-world government to shoot Trump dead


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] wren#0114
cool


[16-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
You walked into miserable straight Earth-based slave capitalism, @wren


[16-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
get out while you still hav an escape vehicle.


[16-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Pontology#1010
You're literally a hard-authoritarian communist. Tankie.


[16-Jul-20 07:43 AM] wren#0114
ok, but I'm implementing ancap fully on mars


[16-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
If all the tanks do is shoot people who violate human rights, cool.


[16-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv those tanks a medal.


[16-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.un.org/press/en/2013/gashc4085.doc.htm


[16-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Pontology#1010
Ethnic self-determination is a human right. That means ethnic nationalism is a human right.


[16-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-determination doesn't mean that you get to violate human rights


[16-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UN doesn't think that being your own country makes you immune to international law.


[16-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just too wimpy to go in and enforce the international law that everyone's supposed to be bound by.


[16-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Police state UN


[16-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what police state means.


[16-Jul-20 07:47 AM] wren#0114
assassin state un


[16-Jul-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police states are states that violate human rights by restricting people in certain ways, especially going after freedom of expression.


[16-Jul-20 07:47 AM] wren#0114
how come trump got to assassinate an iranian general


[16-Jul-20 07:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Is nazi speech free speech?


[16-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Pontology#1010
U.S. is among the only countries that protects nazi speech alongside all other ideas, best free speech protections in the world. Most others criminalize the peaceful expression of such ideas.


[16-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Honahue#0656
here's a free logic leason, everytime there's some kind of arguement that goes straight for the most extreme case, then asked how do you draw the line between accptable and none acceptable, That's a continuum fallacy the Greeks talked about how many grains of sand make a heap and you can't make a distinct determination of that


[16-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Pontology#1010
@Nebbie I think that countries like the UK have the right to be police states that criminalize "offensive" speech if the people want that. Self-determination.


[16-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think they should get the ability to make their own determinations on those limits, really.


[16-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
One big standard.


[16-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
Why?


[16-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Pontology#1010
That just means you can't escape the standard. It's literally the worst possible idea.


[16-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big reason is that speech crosses borders.


[16-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately there probably shouldn't be huge restrictions.


[16-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(they don't seem to help)


[16-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm an anti-interventionist. I'd rather not be "spreading freedom" toppling foreign dictators like you want.


[16-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Pretty surprising for a leftist to want that, tbh. The Iraq disaster made most republicans become anti-interventionist.


[16-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Pontology#1010
No more toppling oppressive dictators and spreading democracy and human rights.


[16-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Pontology#1010
You're really quite a neo-con in practice.


[16-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US doesn't spread human rights, it sets up puppet democracies.


[16-Jul-20 08:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Ah yes, I'm sure your system wouldn't be corrupt


[16-Jul-20 08:03 AM] Pontology#1010
and never set up puppet democracies towards itself where the people democratically don't want to respect your conception of human rights


[16-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010
As would be the case in Saudi Arabia, certainly.


[16-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Let them vote, and they'd vote in Sharia Law like they do in Pakistan.


[16-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't make any sense, any corrupt government that attempted to manipulate democracy to oppress people would just get shot down again


[16-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
just because you can't imagine a world where that sort of corruption is weeded out doesn't mean it's impossible


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[16-Jul-20 09:47 AM] Synfag#9241
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[16-Jul-20 09:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Obviously, they mind-controlled the Boomers. Not to get decent wages or housing or anything, just to make the Boomers blow each other up 20 years later. :bigbrain:


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[16-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
News bad echo chamber good


[16-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Actual accredited journalists? That's fake, bro. I only get my news from freedomeagle.gun


[16-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I only get my news from click bait youtube channels that use red text and say things like "FEMINISTS GET DESTROYED BY TUCKER CARLSON" or "TRUMP WINS AGAIN SORRY NOT SORRY LIBS"


[16-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Clearly better then actual news that points out how shitty Trump has been as a president


[16-Jul-20 02:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
while complaining that youtube censors conservative viewpoints, of course


[16-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"YOUTUBE ARE COMMUNISTS FOR DEMONIOTING SJW CRING VIDEO #42069"


[16-Jul-20 03:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I swear, if anything, the algorithm is (inadvertently) biased *toward* videos like that.

If I watch anything political, my recommendations get flooded with "anti-sjw" stuff for days


[16-Jul-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i watched a trump covid breifing and my reccomendations were full of fox news


[16-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/69obN625Fjs

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[16-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I honestly think if Fox News was around in the 70s Nixon wouldn't have resigned. They've have run defense for him and poisoned the well so much that he'd have finished his term.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Youtube has a bad habit of runing a pipeline of one poltcal video to shiting out prauer u and ben shaprio shit


[16-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see shoe0nhead in there, she's a complicated case

She's actually left-leaning but used to parrot a lot of right-wing talking points. I think she's gotten better lately.


[16-Jul-20 03:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i get a ;lot of john oliver


[16-Jul-20 03:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tbh he isnt that bad as the memes made him out to be. His thing on the wall was actual criticism that I was useing back in 2016 and even now. That being the wall is a waste of money and most illegals come in thru check points anyways.


[16-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, vast majority of illegal immigration is expired visas, not border-hopping.


[16-Jul-20 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[16-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The wall is just an opulent symbol for Trump's campaign


[16-Jul-20 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most immigrants come in legally and out stay their visas


[16-Jul-20 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump just wanted a fancy speech background for the 2020 election and then couldnt use it due to a pandemic

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[16-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But nope the anti sjws said that the only arugment against the wall was that it was "racesit". After seting up that straw man they proceeded to beat the shit out of it and go "well boys we did it the left is no more"


[16-Jul-20 03:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think it's gotten better? Like, in 2013/2014/whenever gamergate was, the anti-sjw hysteria was really bad and I feel like it's finally starting to die down.


[16-Jul-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I've found the next conservative conspiracy theory:

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[16-Jul-20 03:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
the picture though, it's so

inspirational


[16-Jul-20 03:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It has. Mainly beacuse of Trump's incompetence.


[16-Jul-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the very loud, very vocal minority shifted


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[16-Jul-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
SJWs are the least of their problem when people are trying to fight pollution and wear masks for safety


[16-Jul-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-hackers-persistently-hacking-organisations-involved-in-coronavirus-vaccine-development-2020-7

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[16-Jul-20 03:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you cant force people to wear those masks


[16-Jul-20 03:14 PM] Synfag#9241
Russia all over again


[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt even about russia working with the US


[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, you can't. But you *can* refuse to let them go just about anywhere without one.


[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they so uncomfortable and its impossible to wear if you had to wear glasses


[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] HerdAnon#6614
...huh. yeah this isn't right

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[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I wear glasses and I don't have any problem wearing a mask.


[16-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
your glasses doesnt get fogged?


[16-Jul-20 03:16 PM] HerdAnon#6614
No


[16-Jul-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is this weird thing where russia is off limits from media coverage?


[16-Jul-20 03:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you're wearing some custom mask?


[16-Jul-20 03:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause with those shitty blue mask my glasses is always foggy


[16-Jul-20 03:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Glasses are a problem when dealing with masks but, it's over all worth the safety.


[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No. I wear the kind that goes around your entire head, though, not those little surgeon masks.

Like this:

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[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wear one of these, it vents heat while keepign everything else in

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[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Covid-19 needs to be stoped


[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it still gets humid inside the mask but not as badly


[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I just wear a dust cover


[16-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just let everyone be infected


[16-Jul-20 03:18 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I have to change too much.


[16-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
trixie no


[16-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even covid *survivors* end up with long-term health complications.


[16-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
like what


[16-Jul-20 03:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn, if iran shot down that jet it almost up for america shooting the iranian passenger jet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

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Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was dest...
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[16-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got myself a black face covering from staples after one of my first mask band broke.


[16-Jul-20 03:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
the neck tube masks are what I use cus it's the only thing that doesn't fog my glasses to shit and risk me colliding with things


[16-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
oh god you where being serious with that
> just let everyone be infected
@Smug Trixie


[16-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Continued respiratory problems and muscle weakness even after covid passes through you. This virus absolutely wrecks your shit.


[16-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes,we all gonna be infected at some point


[16-Jul-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a necktube ski mask but it;s summer and that would be way hotter than the basic mask


[16-Jul-20 03:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
masks doesnt give you 100% protection and like 40% of people dont want to wear them


[16-Jul-20 03:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
people who get covid often have permanent damage to their lungs, and even other shit


[16-Jul-20 03:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bruh


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
it can attack your fucking nervous tissue m8, and you can get re-infected, being like 'oh we should just let people be re-infected forever'


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. This isn't like "oh, you'll just get sick for a couple of weeks and get better." This is life-altering even for the survivors


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We want as *few* people to get it as possible.


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
you won't get antibodies, only like 4% do.
you could probably get covid twice and be able to get it a third time.


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
herd immunity does not work as far as we're aware.


[16-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"yes,we all gonna be infected at some point" we arn't if we take basic precautions like whereing masks


[16-Jul-20 03:22 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Thank all our shit politicians. Mine are literally refusing to shutdown and let a assload of tourists in.


[16-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In other countries they've got covid more-or-less under control, because they wear masks and took quarantine seriously.


[16-Jul-20 03:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont even know if the asymptomatic carriers will have long lasting effects down the road


[16-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
freaking america meanwhile

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[16-Jul-20 03:23 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Or just do a 2 1/2 months lockdown


[16-Jul-20 03:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
muh freedoms (to propagandize people into killing themselves because they don't know any better)


[16-Jul-20 03:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
open the economy so karen can get a haircut (and die when you run out of ventilators)


[16-Jul-20 03:23 PM] HerdAnon#6614
If they're stupid enough to do it that's called Darwinism.


[16-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Government are affraid of lockdowns cause thats fucks up economy


[16-Jul-20 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyoen gettign covid fucks it up worse


[16-Jul-20 03:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
human lives have value, and they hurt other non-stupid people


[16-Jul-20 03:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can't say 'haha I am very smart it will only harm stupid people', no, it harms everyone, measurably


[16-Jul-20 03:24 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Ventilators aren't what we need actually. Doctors have been requesting some other air assistance thing


[16-Jul-20 03:24 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Fuck the economy


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
the whole deal with horrific viruses is stupid people is how it gets to you and the people who you live with who can easily give it to you


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Lock down is fine.


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sacrificing the American people to the gods of capitalism


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
blood god blood god


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the economy is already wrecked anyway due to decades of "trickle down"

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[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism is a death cult and covid is proof of that


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its not only in US


[16-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, but we let it get cartoonishly bad.


[16-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's no comparison. Other countries handled this much better.


[16-Jul-20 03:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
yes, everywhere that has opened the economy again has proven it's a death cult yes. Per capita deaths and infections in all of those places are very high.


[16-Jul-20 03:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
Sweden for example, is very cringe


[16-Jul-20 03:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
minus brazil who denied it existed outright and still does


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
Sweden just has far lower pop density


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Russia.


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Whats russia


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
Russia is largely irrelevant, as is hysteria around it.


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh right, and russia who just calls cases pnumonia and pretends it doesnt exist either while putin hides in a safety bunker in his castle


[16-Jul-20 03:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
^


[16-Jul-20 03:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
brainlets be like "but RT said---"


[16-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i guess


[16-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But there was a lockdown for like 2 months and people were wearing masks and stuff but now everyone just ignore wearing those masks


[16-Jul-20 03:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
Russia 🤝  Brazil
total denial


[16-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And lockdown is almost lifted for everyone


[16-Jul-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can thanks the GOP for that


[16-Jul-20 03:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can thank american culture for that, rugged individualism is, it turns out, terrible for society and voids social contracts


[16-Jul-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they love undoing safety regulations to "get the economy rolling"


[16-Jul-20 03:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
america is the laughing stock of the first world for a reason.


[16-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Russia did hack covid 19 research places. Thats rather shity of them.


[16-Jul-20 03:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can only blame russian hackers and bots for so much lol


[16-Jul-20 03:30 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Gotta help their chinese buttbuddies


[16-Jul-20 03:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
it reaches a point where it's just damage control for americans lol


[16-Jul-20 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-hackers-persistently-hacking-organisations-involved-in-coronavirus-vaccine-development-2020-7

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Russian hackers linked to the Kremlin have targeted coronavirus vac...
A hacking collective called 'Cozy Bear' is accused of targeting coronavirus research organisations.
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[16-Jul-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, he isn't wrong actually


[16-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just feel like medical expertise should not be politicized. What the doctors say ought to be what every politician in both parties agrees to.


[16-Jul-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, and? Medicine should be free information for all, no patents, it's inhumane to patent a vaccine and sell it at a premium


[16-Jul-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s not what the article is about though


[16-Jul-20 03:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
it said they're 'stealing research'


[16-Jul-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they are targeting vaccine research labs


[16-Jul-20 03:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
it doesn't elaborate enough for me to even tell if they're fucking up and inhibiting research, or simply downloading the servers full of data


[16-Jul-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-administration-retreats-from-war-with-anthony-fauci-2020-7

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President Donald Trump on Tuesday rebuked his trade adviser Peter Navarro for an attack seen as part of a wider effort to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci.
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[16-Jul-20 03:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
hmmmmmmm


[16-Jul-20 03:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
big brain moment


[16-Jul-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-bans-localities-from-making-mask-mandates-2020-7

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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp banned local mask mandates in the state
Georgia recorded more than 3,870 new coronavirus infections on Wednesday and has over 127,800 confirmed COVID-19 cases.
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[16-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem is, the question of masks isn't just individual choice for the people wearing or not wearing them. It's endangering other people, so this isn't an "individual rights" issue as the Republicans keep framing it.


[16-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You have a right to swing your fist, but it ends at my face. Your "right" to get yourself sick becomes a violation of other peoples' rights inherently, because it gets others sick.


[16-Jul-20 03:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s an issue of people telling other people "We need to keep people safe and infections to a minimum" and those people yelling "Go fuck yourself! If you don't want to get infected just stay home while i demand you go to work so i can have a haircut!"


[16-Jul-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then the dumbest part is that they wear masks anyway to hide their faces while waving guns at a government building demanding the right to not wear a mask

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[16-Jul-20 03:41 PM] illumnious#7938
> And lockdown is almost lifted for everyone
@Smug Trixie  for Bahamas of course


[16-Jul-20 04:01 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Honestly this is a myriad of stupidity, wearing any old handkerchief or thin cloth doesn't stop the spread at all. Just wearing a mask doesn't stop the spread. Just washing your hands doesn't stop the spread. Going into massive gatherings doesn't stop the spread. Just staying separate doesn't stop the spread, ect. You have to stay separate, wash hands, wear gloves, wear a mask not just thin cloth, don't go out just because you feel like it or for dumb reasons, don't get in large gatherings, don't go days without a bath (shouldn't do that normally you nasty fuck), ect. Yet almost everyone, is failing at least 2 to 3 of those.

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[16-Jul-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you do wear disposable gloves, dispose of them when you;re exiting the store and put on a fresh pair.


[16-Jul-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
otherwise you're just taking walmart everywhere with you and no one wants that

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[16-Jul-20 04:13 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Like, you're telling me, we spend 3 trillion a year, and we can't afford to give 750 to everyone who was working for at least 8 weeks for this to die off? That 6k everyone who is working and paying tax, most people pay more thsn than that yearly.


[16-Jul-20 04:15 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Just 8 weeks or 2 1/2 months, 750. Not alot, but that can make a massive difference and get everyone on track. If the people are caught going out for dumb shit or in a large gathering they don't get shit.


[16-Jul-20 04:17 PM] illumnious#7938
OhnygodlikeIcan’ttakethisbullshit https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1283767482407366657?s=21

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[16-Jul-20 04:19 PM] illumnious#7938
Whuuuuut


[16-Jul-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He did have a history of plagiarism, in the fucking 70's. However Trump has a much longer record of plagiarism, so he has no room to yell "exposed"


[16-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah

Also, you don't have to convince me that Biden kinda sucks. He does. But at this point I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for him on election day because the sitting president is that bad.


[16-Jul-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ditto


[16-Jul-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
god, i wish america had a ranked voting system so we could ignore the 2 geriatrics in the room


[16-Jul-20 04:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least biden has the possibility of picking a good vp, getting elected and then dying and leaving us with a better president


[16-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Supreme Court's at stake too.


[16-Jul-20 04:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate, the scotus, the executive


[16-Jul-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even state supreme courts are at risk


[16-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Not really, Maoists and Stalinists killed 100 million people @dissociativity.


[16-Jul-20 04:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
yes, but every person who doesn't understand politics


[16-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I disagree with the left on a lot of things, but anyone trying to claim socdems and neolibs are responsible for Maoism/Stalinism is either stupid or dishonest.


[16-Jul-20 04:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
thinks everyone left of bernie sanders wants that, or will end up with the same result, despite specific movements leading to that, none of them being part of the libertarian left, or even like, mid-way libertarian left lol


[16-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Frosku#5874
It's as dumb as the current vogue of calling everyone to the right of Bernie Sanders a Nazi.


[16-Jul-20 04:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
like spanish syndicalists were hardly killing 100 million ever


[16-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Frosku#5874
For the record, I'm right-libertarian.


[16-Jul-20 04:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
it was specifically a movement against franco and his fascist regime, much like french partisans in ww2 were largely communists and were uhh, how we say? purged by western forces oops


[16-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Frosku#5874
I think if you want a commune or a cooperatively owned business, that's your right. If you try to force me into one, that's where we'll have an issue.


[16-Jul-20 04:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
and they were generally more libertarian too soo


[16-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Most smaller scale collectivists are pretty libertarian.


[16-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Frosku#5874
I think in an ideal world, those people will be able to set up communes and syndicates to live life the way they want to live it.


[16-Jul-20 04:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
and then there's american interventionalism into democracies who elected socialist leaders in central and south america, killing hundreds of thousands of innocents, many of whom weren't even leftists, with CIA trained right wing paramilitary death squads


[16-Jul-20 04:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
y'know, the past century.
but people go 'all socialism is literally stalin and mao'


[16-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, America isn't the only offender in interventionism, but it is a big one.


[16-Jul-20 04:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
it constantly is a pain in my asshole, and they're stupid enough to actually think that's like, actual politics that should be respected.


[16-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Frosku#5874
BTW I'm very anti-interventionism, I'm of the mind that you speak softly and carry a large stick.


[16-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Frosku#5874
The purpose of any military action should be defensive.


[16-Jul-20 04:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
Can you please teach other right libertarians that people left of bernie aren't some hegemonic group that's going to gulag everyone and that in real life we mostly fight for 'improving things somewhat' for the working class, strikes, rent strikes, ect


[16-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Frosku#5874
I think most right libertarians already know that, and btw I agree with unions too (though not in the public sector).


[16-Jul-20 04:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
like it's not your responsibility, but I'm so damn sick of getting people that spit stupid at me like it's some epic own


[16-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
A functioning market *requires* collective bargaining.


[16-Jul-20 04:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
and they refuse to listen to anything I say, nor debate with any kind of faith, it's really very upsetting.


[16-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Trust me, I get the same from most on the left. It's infuriating and saddening.


[16-Jul-20 04:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
they simply ignore my points, regardless of how many sources I post, and repeat the same npc lines


[16-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
"Oh, you like low taxes, you must be a NAZI"


[16-Jul-20 04:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
literally all of these are npc points I see all the time

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[16-Jul-20 04:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure how to explain to them that the amount of taxes I'm willing to pay could never fund a totalitarian government. 😂


[16-Jul-20 04:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
there are far more nuanced arguments I'm sure you'll agree, but I get the same generic shit ad infinitum


[16-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, it's the same as "who will build the roads?" and "people will starve".


[16-Jul-20 04:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
generic talking points simply are not viable political debate, it's a generic pre-recorded line


[16-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Arguing in good faith is dead. :/ Easier just to assume anyone you disagree with is literally <Hitler/Stalin>.


[16-Jul-20 04:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
maybe I should say that lol
'hey so if I'm literally stalin here, I guess that makes you literally hitler, huh?'


[16-Jul-20 04:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Pretty much. That's debate these days.


[16-Jul-20 04:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
slap them with their own smooth brain.


[16-Jul-20 04:42 PM] Frosku#5874
It's like the Aryanne stuff, "Oh, you think people should be able to draw a Nazi? You must be a Nazi."

No, I just don't like the idea of someone else telling me what I can and can't draw.


[16-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
At the same time, I think the *anti*-Aryanne side gets strawmanned too.


[16-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Definitely.


[16-Jul-20 04:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
As I said earlier though, to us it's literally not about her, it's about a stance that will get the white nationalists, who do exist, genuinely, to fuck off.


[16-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that there's a good argument to be made for a private website saying "Regardless of intent, we don't want that here." Whatever derpibooru does is their business either way, I'm not pushing them to do one or the other. But I personally *would* ban nazi stuff on my own fansite just because I don't want the possibility of people putting them there to sincerely promote the ideology. (Which I'm not saying everyone does)


[16-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Frosku#5874
I know a lot of left-libertarians who agree with me about Aryanne btw.


[16-Jul-20 04:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
and that to them is the 'exodus' straw, so to me it's a worthy sacrifice.


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean, there's a good *legal* argument for it, but I don't think there's a good social one.


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't /want/ to get her shit banned, but hey, if it takes that to get actual white nationalists to fuck off, I'm okay with it.


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
because they refuse to leave on their own, and people don't seem to report them or call them out on their bullshit enough for them to fuck off out of the fandom


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Frosku#5874
If the Nazis all go to another site, that site will turn into a Nazi echo chamber and create more Nazis. If they're on a site where you can disagree with the content in comments, that's likely to result in open debate and less Nazis.


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
mlpol doesn't create more nazis, 
I assure you


[16-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
mlpol is for the radicalized, not radicalizing


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Frosku#5874
mlpol is 95% memers


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
nazis lie, they do not debate in good faith, ever, they see every argument as a chance to give their arguments oxygen and recruit.


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
pretty much, yeah

Again, I don't think everyone who's ever drawn a nazi is a nazi. I'm not an idiot.


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
they don't care about free speech except when they can use it to recruit others and benefit themselves in their wanky culture war bullshit.


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I do think far-right people like to hide behind memes and lulz


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
pretty much none of us do.


[16-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Sunlight is the best disinfectant when it comes to shitty views, in my experience. If you want to kill Nazism, make a full-throated defense of liberal democracy.


[16-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Because the two ideas aren't equal in merit.


[16-Jul-20 04:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
and white nationalists lie, they say they were 'merely pretending, just joking', everything is hidden behind a layer of irony, plausible deniability, it's a genuine fascist organizing tactic that's /very/ effective, so effective that they're definitely here in our communities organizing and succeeding at it, and people keep gaslighting us and telling us what we're seeing isn't real.


[16-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's funny because for all their posturing about being based and confident, they're usually afraid to say outright what they think. They have to resort to cowardly dogwhistling and are usually really vague and coy about their actual beliefs.


[16-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Generally speaking, ethno-nationalism / fascism / Nazism are not popular in functioning countries. They become popular when people feel disenfranchised either by economic or social circumstances.


[16-Jul-20 04:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
cowardly dogwhistling, not to mention background ponies so they're not held accountable to names.

Yes, post 2008 financial crisis and now covid saw a rise of fascism and fascist rhetoric


[16-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Just ban anonymous commenting on anything tagged politics.


[16-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Frosku#5874
If people want to say shitty things, make them put a name to the comment.


[16-Jul-20 04:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
So, to me, people like david rubin, ect, are basically as good as fascists, as they're useful idiots to fascists, they platform only centrist and right wing actors, while pretending to be progressive or some shit, then only attack the left, then frame this as fair and balanced.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
my problem is also useful idiots who happily enable them for free speech, and no matter what you tell them it was always, 'just a joke', they were 'merely pretending to be white nationalists'


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think Rubin is a Nazi, he gives platform to pretty much anyone who wants to come on the show and is significant enough to get him viewers. Above all, he just wants to make money.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I dunno, I'd say not every site is or should be a platform to debate fascism. 

If I make a - say - Super Mario fan discord or something, I'm not there to argue with people who think black people aren't human. Having a blanket rule against promoting those talking points would be more than reasonable, in my view.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
he's not, but he's a useful idiot grifter to them, grifters who want money from easy clickbait are useful idiots to fascists.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Also, Rubin has had some very libertarian people on his show.


[16-Jul-20 04:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
after all, fascists are shock value, mr  mollymemes is a fascist for one


[16-Jul-20 04:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Rucka Rucka Ali, for example. Yes, he makes a bunch of offensive jokes, but the dude's a clear cut objectivist.


[16-Jul-20 04:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean I think that's why Aryanne is popular, for the same reason South Park is.


[16-Jul-20 04:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
Stephen "have a kid or lose your eggs white woman" mollymeme is a fascist, through and through


[16-Jul-20 04:51 PM] Frosku#5874
She's entirely offensive / taboo, and makes for good shock humor.


[16-Jul-20 04:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, she's not "popular" really.


[16-Jul-20 04:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
yet enlightened centrists loved to platform him for like a decade or some shit now lol


[16-Jul-20 04:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
She's had a recent spike in spite-posting but I feel like most of the fandom still has nothing to do with her.


[16-Jul-20 04:52 PM] Frosku#5874
idk if Molyneux is a fascist, he definitely started moving in that direction.


[16-Jul-20 04:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, it was /never/ about aryanne, it was about we anti-fascist people taking a shitty concession to get actual fascists to fuck off and stay out


[16-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Frosku#5874
But is it worth it? Making Aryanne an icon of free speech?


[16-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, I think you're overestimating how many people actually view her that way.


[16-Jul-20 04:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's literally all we want, we don't want their ideas to be debated, because you simply shouldn't debate whether trans people are subhumans, or black people are subhumans, that's not a debate, debating it implies that black or trans people being subhuman is a valid opinion.


[16-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Frosku#5874
That's basically what Aryanne is now: a Martyr for free speech. I know a bunch of people, me included, who are drawing and sharing Aryanne to protest censorship when we didn't even like her before.


[16-Jul-20 04:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, but she's that in very limited circles I think.


[16-Jul-20 04:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, all of /mlp/ and altboorus


[16-Jul-20 04:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
an opinion that any civil society can't accept and implement without genocide, is not one worth airing out.


[16-Jul-20 04:55 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, though there are white nationalists who would say they don't support genocide and I don't think that makes their ideas much less shitty.


[16-Jul-20 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
social contract, you sign it by living in a society, the marketplace of ideas isn't fair, people have large platforms, more cameras than you


[16-Jul-20 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
more money than you, the marketplace of ideas is hardly a reasonable way to handle a society as it is not free, if it were free, all ideas would get equal coverage and funding


[16-Jul-20 04:55 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Non-genocidal" white nationalists still support forcing non-white people out of the country and not letting any more in, which is still shitty and doesn't merit elevating to the same level as valid political positions.


[16-Jul-20 04:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
now lets' say I'm a black person in a white ethnostate transitioning, if I disagree and fight back I'm subject to dying, yes?


[16-Jul-20 04:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's inherently genocidal even if they 'don't want' to kill people


[16-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure honestly, you'd have to talk to whichever white nationalist is proposing the ethnostate. I'm not sure most of them agree with each other.


[16-Jul-20 04:57 PM] Frosku#5874
The far-right and far-left are good at eating their own.


[16-Jul-20 04:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
armed rebellions are going to happen, many people will die so you can jerk off to how pure your bloodline and culture is


[16-Jul-20 04:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
no matter how 'peaceful' your ethnostate apparently is, I'm anti-israel for a reason lol


[16-Jul-20 04:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm pro-Israel


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
israel is an apartheid state, it's an ethnostate, it displaces and kills those in a different ethnic group


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Frosku#5874
Israel isn't an ethnostate, at all. Anyone who's been there can tell you.


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's inherently oppressive, and has been since it started existing.


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, same

Israel is an apartheid state. What they did and *are doing* to the Palestinian people is indefensible.

Nothing against Jewish or Israeli *people,* my problem is with the government.


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
They sterilize black jews as far as I've heard.


[16-Jul-20 04:58 PM] Frosku#5874
The implementation isn't perfect, but as an orthodox Jew, I like knowing I have somewhere to go if the Nazis win.


[16-Jul-20 04:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
big hmmm
https://washingtondailyreport.com/years-denying-israel-finally/

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[16-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Historically Israel definitely did some terrible things.


[16-Jul-20 04:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
very recently, and they continue to do terrible things as we speak


[16-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Frosku#5874
So did America, though. We sterilized disabled people, banned interracial marriage, interned the Japanese, had slavery, etc.


[16-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My paternal grandfather grew up in Palestine and was forced out of his home when Israel was formed. His family lost everything.

Again, I want to emphasize as much as I can that my opposition to Israel isn't some smokescreen for antisemitism. People who hate Jews or even hate Israeli people are bigoted idiots. But I do vehemently oppose the Israeli government.


[16-Jul-20 05:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
they aren't being held to a past standard.
they are being held to a now standard, and they are doing horrible, genocidal things.


[16-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Frosku#5874
My paternal great-grandfather died in Auschwitz because he didn't have an Israel to go to.


[16-Jul-20 05:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
I oppose all nationalism and all apartheids.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
Maybe America or the UK should've taken him in eh?
instead of deporting jews?


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Frosku, the reason he died wasn't because Israel didn't exist. It was because the Nazis ordered him dead.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Frosku#5874
But that just further explains why we need Israel, because 'good' countries did nothing.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We don't solve genocide with conquest.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
the reason he died is also because many western countries were so anti-Semitic they simply didn't let jewish people escape.


[16-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Every nation that exists was founded on conquest, though. Israel is one of 200+.


[16-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, *yeah.* I'm against what the USA did to the native Americans as well.


[16-Jul-20 05:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
and that's pretty shitty if it's not necessary.


[16-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Bearing in mind, that conquest was against the Ottomans, who conquered the land themselves from another group who conquered the land, etc.


[16-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, the British


[16-Jul-20 05:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
israel is not and never has been necessary, ethnostates aren't necessary, homelands for ethno-religious groups aren't necessary, period.


[16-Jul-20 05:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
as an anti-fascist, I'm against fascists who are jewish, or are black, or any race


[16-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Israel isn't an ethnostate, that's propaganda. You can move to Israel tomorrow regardless of your race/religion.


[16-Jul-20 05:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
why must they genocide and displace Palestinians?


[16-Jul-20 05:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
is it like australian immigration? y'know, it's okay if you're not an ugly brown person, then you need to go to an offshore detention camp?


[16-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Frosku#5874
They don't genocide Palestinians, and generally what you call displacement is re-conquering Jewish settlements that were destroyed by the Jordanians or Ottomans.


[16-Jul-20 05:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
bruh, if 'your people' had 'ancestral land' that doesn't mean shit to anyone


[16-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Why is that only true for Jewish land though?


[16-Jul-20 05:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
noone is entitled to ancestral homelands.
that's bullshit.


[16-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Frosku#5874
If I move into your house with a militia, and you take it back, have you displaced me?


[16-Jul-20 05:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
Blood and Soil is bad for all peoples.


[16-Jul-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Why is that only true for Jewish land though?
@Frosku  it is not, that is not the point she’s making


[16-Jul-20 05:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
after centuries you probably realize that shit is different now and maybe you aren't entitled to land by blood alone


[16-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Frosku#5874
I just want an answer to the question: if I take back land you took from me with guns, who is in the wrong?


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Both


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's not an argument.


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] Frosku#5874
It wasn't centuries though, a lot of those settlements existed in the 1920s and were wiped out in the 1940s, then re-taken in the 1960s.


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] Frosku#5874
We're talking decades, not centuries. Jews didn't stop living in Jerusalem at any point in history.


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
oh shit it's 1am


[16-Jul-20 05:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
uhhm, I hate to cut us off, but @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 is very smart anyway, apologies


[16-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's nothing wrong with Jewish people moving back to Jerusalem. The problem is moving in and telling the Palestinians they had to leave.


[16-Jul-20 05:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
revenge fantasies hurt everyone.


[16-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Frosku#5874
They don't have to leave though, that's never been demanded of anyone.


[16-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Frosku#5874
There are loads of arabs who live in, and have never left, Israel.


[16-Jul-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has been, it’s what the land expropriations are about in the West Bank


[16-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Frosku#5874
The West Bank is largely divided into areas which have always, except for between 1920 and 1960, been predominantly Jewish, and areas which have always been predominantly arab.


[16-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's just historically incorrect. Many were absolutely forced out of their homes.

You are correct that Arabs live in Israel, but that doesn't change that Palestinians were still forcibly removed.


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And these areas were mostly created by war and displacement


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Frosku#5874
There is no threat of removal for anyone living in the latter (except if they commit terrorist acts), but yeah if you shot someone's town up and they come to take it back, that's your problem.


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
'always been' is not an argument, you don't get to displace people.


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Frosku#5874
As far as I'm concerned, if you take over my house or town, and I take it back, I'm not doing anything wrong.


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
two wrongs (forcing people out of their homes) don't make a right


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Frosku#5874
You did something wrong by stealing it from me in the first place, and murdering my family. The property is still mine.


[16-Jul-20 05:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
property rights are a spook


[16-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Frosku#5874
So if I move into your house, you wont make me move out?


[16-Jul-20 05:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What is wrong is that both of you decided to take over each other’s houses instead of coexisting


[16-Jul-20 05:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
sure, move in


[16-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Frosku#5874
I can just put my stuff all over the house, do whatever I want


[16-Jul-20 05:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, just hope you don't have cat allergies.


[16-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't, we can start with my huge Israel flag for the living room though :P


[16-Jul-20 05:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
nothing wrong with coexisting as housemates.


[16-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Sure, if both people want to be housemates. Now let's take another example: I come into your house with guns, shoot your family, drive you out. You call the police and they drive me out. Who is wrong?


[16-Jul-20 05:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Your analogy is more like

calling the police after decades and them showing up to shoot the robber's children


[16-Jul-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That’s irrelevant to this conversation because Israel did exactly that in 1947


[16-Jul-20 05:12 PM] Frosku#5874
No, it's not. It's more like the police couldn't physically remove me for those 20 years, so they did it when they could.


[16-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Jordan controlled the West Bank area for that time period, and Jews were not allowed to move back into their towns.


[16-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is also wrong, yes.


[16-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Frosku#5874
The only way to right that wrong is to return the stolen property, though.


[16-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Some of those Jewish communities stood nonstop from BCE to 1920s.


[16-Jul-20 05:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only way to right that wrong is to tell both peoples to stop their territorial nationalism and coexist


[16-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Gush Etzion, one of the largest West Bank "settlements" has been a Jewish town since about 400 BCE.


[16-Jul-20 05:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As had been the case for centuries


[16-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Frosku#5874
That doesn't work when you're dealing with a limited amount of land though. You can't just tell people to share their houses with people they didn't invite in.


[16-Jul-20 05:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
there is plenty of land to spare I assure you


[16-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Frosku#5874
The individual houses have owners.


[16-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Frosku#5874
Sure, so go somewhere other than where my house is 😂


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
the community can work together to build more houses.


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Abolish traditional concepts of property


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
instead of, y'know, murdering eachother over houses


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Agreed, and it does. Arabs who are not trying to kill Jews live in Israeli "settlements".


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only way to solve this conflict


[16-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Not really, because I still doubt you want someone who wants you dead in your house.


[16-Jul-20 05:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why would they want you dead if there is no money or property to steal?


[16-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Though if y'all are offering to share, I can stop paying rent here tomorrow :D


[16-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Because they think you're a heretic under their interpretation of their religion, and that heretics need to die.


[16-Jul-20 05:17 PM] HerdAnon#6614
I'm right wing libertarian, and I think this kookaburra should be allowed more sausages.

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[16-Jul-20 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Religion as we know it wouldn’t exist under this state of affairs


[16-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Frosku#5874
Religion will always exist, in the sense of ideologies which people believe in and can compel their actions.


[16-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Frosku#5874
Most extreme political ideologies are indistinguishable from religions except in the sense of having a God.


[16-Jul-20 05:19 PM] HerdAnon#6614
Blame Plato's world of forms bullshit theory.


[16-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Synfag#9241

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[16-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Frosku#5874
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[16-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Roughly on topic, might trigger the easily triggered.


[16-Jul-20 05:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh hey, look at the time. time for your daily reminder that this happned in the US https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRArltsEyH8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN8ISwuiX68

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[16-Jul-20 05:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure is fun living in the land of ~liberty~


[16-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Turns out the country that repeatedly crammed how *free* we are since childhood might've been overselling a little


[16-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Frosku#5874
Still more free than anywhere else.

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[16-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:wheeze:


[16-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nah. If I could hop over to Canada I'd do it.


[16-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Canada is far less free, they don't even have a first amendment.


[16-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Meanwhile our first amendment isn't worth the paper it's written because the police can just steamroll you for publicly demonstrating or even for *covering* the protests as a journalist


[16-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Canada, France, Norway, Sweden, Japan, Germany, just to name a few


[16-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Frosku#5874
> Germany


[16-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Frosku#5874
That must be a joke, surely. You could get arrested for content on Derpibooru in Germany. Same in France.


[16-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Rights_and_Freedoms

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[16-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Freedom of speech as understood outside of the US is basically freedom to say things that don't offend anyone.


[16-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh no, I can't look at foalcon in france and germany. Thank god I'm in the states where I can get shot on my porch.


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
so much better.


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry to break it to you bud but material conditions of living are orders of magnitude better for the average German than they are for the average American


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Have you ever been shot on your porch?


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Frosku#5874
I've lived outside America, I can tell you, it's not as good as the posters say it is.


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No, beacuse I'm in Canada


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And artistic, even political, development continues well in Germany despite its ban on sympathy for nazi ideology


[16-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, "outside America" is mighty broad


[16-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Italy, UK, and Israel.


[16-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_2_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#Freedom_of_expression

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[16-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Frosku#5874
"A law's purpose can limit the right either through limiting the content or form of expression. Limits on content are where the meaning of the expression is specifically forbidden by the law, such as hate-speech law, and is the most easily identifiable form of limitation."


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Frosku#5874
So it's not really freedom of expression. You can still be arrested and potentially killed (if you resist arrest) for wrong think.


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm fine with that. Even in the U.S. there are laws about "fighting words" for example.


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, every country always has its flaws and problems, but the US is especially problematic in the sense that cost of living is so god damn expensive there


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Cost of living is low in the US, if you don't live in a major city.


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_2_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms#/media/File:Occupy_Montreal_-_Global_Day_of_Action_-_2011-10-15_-_Victoria_Square_-_General_assembly.jpg See how the cops wheren't opening fire on the prostesters here?

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Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
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[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or gassing news people?


[16-Jul-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To illustrate, there's this couple i've been watching on youtube who decided to make a trip from Brazil across Latin America into Alaska


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Frosku#5874
@Gordon Freeman Yeah I also see how the protestors aren't burning things or beating people up.


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every Latino country they were in, they had no problems living off their Youtube money


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Frosku#5874
No cops shot at tea party protestors because they weren't being violent. You have a right to protest, not a right to be violent.


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Neither were most of the protests, friend. But many police have been overreacting and violently policing them.


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9qi-FTTz4

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[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One day, they manage to enter the United States, and two days later their money is gone and they're forced to get a job in a fast food chain


[16-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm 100% against militarization of police.


[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They prepared for this


[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Frosku#5874
But I still expect "protestors" to be dealt with if they start smashing things.


[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And even then, things were so expensive in the US they could not have prepared for it too well


[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You do acknowledge that police are attacking peaceful protesters though.


[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There was also gassing of peaceful prosters right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be

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[16-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Frosku#5874
If they smash my windows or try to threaten me, they'll soon learn why I need high capacity magazines and AR-15s.


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Frosku, we acknowledge and denounce the rioters. Do *you* acknowledge that police are attacking non-violent protesters?


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats why most blm prosters don't do that.


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf, protests are merely for provoking and intimidating governments and ruling classes, the real punch comes from paralyzation and striking


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
like the ones in Lafayette Square


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, I'm not a big fan of the police in general. I'm not saying America is perfect, I'm saying nowhere else is better. We can still do better.


[16-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hard disagree. I think America's a better place to live than a lot of countries, but not the best.


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
America is the laughing stock of the first world in quality of life


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Frosku#5874
It's really not.


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, you can do better, if your working class once and for all wakes the hell up and organizes


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
Most people are painfully poor and have terrible quality of life


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Frosku#5874
On my income, there are zero countries in the world where I would have a better quality of life than the USA.


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd somewhat compare the US to Brazil in terms of quality of life


[16-Jul-20 05:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
You don't have the basic human right of public healthcare


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bro. The USA is one of the only developed countries where people die from being too poor to address treatable illnesses.


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But even Brazil has free healthcare so :wheeze:


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Because that works so well in countries that have it -- people dying on waiting lists is common in the UK & Israel.


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
I can't go bankrupt here from tripping and breaking something.
Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and avoid seeing doctors.


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yet they get preventative care for free so they live longer anyway


[16-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Frosku#5874
They live longer because they don't eat garbage fast food every day tbh.


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
You realize private healthcare and hospitals exist for those who can afford it outside of America right?


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, I do, I had private cover in Israel and the UK.


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
And having both forces private healthcare to actually be good


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got treatment for my mentalhealth problmes quickly here. People die on waiting lists in the US for organ transplants.


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
Competition is good, right?


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Most of the countries with the best healthcare outcomes have dual-payer models.


[16-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
You can't compete with the government, it doesn't have to run efficiently.


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
It can just subsidize everything and raise taxes or borrowing.


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, you can, that's how private health works in the real first world


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Gordon Freeman yes, that makes a lot of sense. No wonder why so many people i've met online who admitted to having unstable mental disorders have come from the US


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Competition is good if you have a level playing field.


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, family raising standards are terrible in the US and a lot of abuse occurs iirc


[16-Jul-20 05:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
In Australia you get private health if you want better than public, that's plenty fair


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
Plenty fair a playing field since insurance still makes a shittone of money


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Seriously, i'm appalled at the custom of just kicking your kids out of your house once they reach 18


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm all for government subsidy for people who can't afford healthcare, like in the Netherlands.


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 That's incredibly uncommon in modern America.


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just inefficient, and cruel most of the time


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
America has price gauging in healthcare.


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I feel like that's not the norm anymore.


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Frosku#5874
American healthcare is dreadful but it's not because it's not publicly funded.


[16-Jul-20 05:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
Gouging idk how spelled, bad prices


[16-Jul-20 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well i have a friend who told me that was how she was raised


[16-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Frosku#5874
It's because we eat garbage, drink too much, smoke too much, and the government actively chooses the companies over the consumer.


[16-Jul-20 05:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
I have friends who struggle to afford insulin due to lack of regulation


[16-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I lived at home until my late 20s. I still had a full-time teaching job and helped out financially, but I didn't actually move out until I was 28. That's becoming a lot more common in this economy.


[16-Jul-20 05:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I might be wrong, yeah, considering how financial peril now forces people to be more cooperative


[16-Jul-20 05:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wish I could continue dabbing on how much better Australia is to live in than America, but I gotta sleep


[16-Jul-20 05:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
Sweet dreams nerds

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[16-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Later, potater.


[16-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
gn


[16-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Frosku#5874
I moved out when I was 16


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
You and what money?


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Frosku#5874
My sister stayed at my mom's place until she was 25


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Frosku#5874
I was making about $3k a month at 16 doing freelance code


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
No I should ssleeeep stop insomnia


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
geez


[16-Jul-20 05:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
Okay, ima do it WiFi off.


[16-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Frosku#5874
If you want to make money, America is an easy place to do it.


[16-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It has its merits, but I still want that universal healthcare, man.


[16-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Frosku#5874
I could get pretty much anyone a six figure income in under 2 years if they'd follow what I say. Even seven figures is doable.


[16-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which I suspect America will have eventually. It's becoming a more popular idea and older voters who oppose it are declining in number.


[16-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Universal healthcare is fine, single payer I sure hope not.


[16-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Would be a good time to take my funds and go to Russia I guess, I'm not paying the taxes it necessitates.


[16-Jul-20 05:50 PM] CandorChampion™#0800
I'd rather not be forced to pay for a service, a commodity.


[16-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Frosku#5874
We pay for food, that's a necessity.


[16-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Same with shelter, clothing, clean water. Almost everything we need to live is provided by the market because the market works to provide it.


[16-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, honestly, I don't think we should have to pay to live either. I'm for UBI to cover basic cost of living, which people would still work and earn more money *on top of* to afford anything beyond that.


[16-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm massively against UBI because again, I refuse to pay for it. I don't owe you anything.


[16-Jul-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never quite got that argument, people are against paying taxes for a service but will go out of their way to keep a system that forces them to pay bills of 1k+ or more while insurance companies they flaunt deny thme life saving procedures because of cost


[16-Jul-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
My preference is UBS


[16-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Frosku#5874
My taxes are far more than 1k+


[16-Jul-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
The problem with "well fuck you, I don't owe you shit" is that you're already paying for it, because you live in a society 🤡


[16-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Last year I paid about $75,000 in tax.


[16-Jul-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
Might as well go with the cheaper option, no?


[16-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The average American would pay less on the whole than they're paying now.


[16-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Frosku#5874
So yeah, no, I'm not paying even more. I will just go somewhere that values the jobs I create and the income I bring to the country.


[16-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
More in taxes, sure, less in actual expenses.


[16-Jul-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile your medical bill is like $600k because you got an x-ray and talked to a doctor


[16-Jul-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
With a tax figure like that, care to disclose your income?


[16-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Frosku#5874
More than 100k, less than 300k


[16-Jul-20 05:55 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't have a fixed income, I run a business, I'm not deliberately trying to be obtuse.


[16-Jul-20 05:55 PM] Frosku#5874
My salary is 100k, but I take dividends on top of that.


[16-Jul-20 05:56 PM] byte[]#2610
You're not including taxes related to business expenses in the total of taxes you personally paid on your income, are you? That would be disingenuous


[16-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Frosku#5874
No, only personal taxes.


[16-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Corporate taxes are actually pretty low because we made a loss for the 2 years before last year. So we got to do a profit offset.


[16-Jul-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
are you at liberty to say which 1040 line item contributed the most to your personal tax? $75k is massive, esp for the US


[16-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Frosku#5874
It was dividend tax, last year, by far.


[16-Jul-20 05:59 PM] byte[]#2610
ah you had me wondering for a bit, that makes sense then


[16-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Frosku#5874
A little capital gains, a little income tax. But mostly dividend tax.


[16-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Frosku#5874
I could probably pay less tbh, I'm not super-efficient with my deductibles.


[16-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Frosku#5874
State sales taxes were another major component, though they're obviously harder to track.


[16-Jul-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/who-are-these-federal-officers-sent-to-portland-to-deal-with-protesters/283-b2c3b375-cd6a-4e8a-b2c3-25cbbb911335

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Who are these federal officers sent to Portland to deal with protes...
Interviews and court records help answer questions about the federal officers deployed to Portland.
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[16-Jul-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jul-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bolivian-senate-approves-toxic-bleach-as-covid-19-treatment-2020-7

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[16-Jul-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fucking what


[16-Jul-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
lmao seriously?


[16-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I know this really isnt the place for it but im on welfare right now for my mental health problems (ocd). I have frequent feelings of feeling worthless. Dad doesn't help when he says that my money isn't my money.


[16-Jul-20 06:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Am i an asshole worthless pos for being on welfare? I try to get a job but most of the time I don't get past the sending applaction phase.


[16-Jul-20 06:23 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think you're an asshole or worthless POS, no. I don't think the current economic model makes work or productivity accessible or attractive enough. Can't blame people for not taking incentives that aren't there.


[16-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thanks. Every once in a while i need to hear that im not bad for geting welfare or just being me.


[16-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't envision, and I would not want to live in, a world where we don't provide help to people who need it.


[16-Jul-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a harsh world out there right now and it;s kind of shitty when people refer to non work income as "found money" I've been living off a college pelle grant income for 3 years now and that's over. I still can;t get past the application phase of jobs either and now I have no income.


[16-Jul-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I still live with my parents at age 29, I'm exploring ways to maybe get myself an income that doesnt require applying for jobs, So far the only thing me and my parents have as an idea is stock investment but that can;t be the final solution and it likely won;t get me my own house


[16-Jul-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
No one is a worthless asshole for being stuck in a bad financial situation and needing help


[16-Jul-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/RosaGoldensohn/status/1283374981704044545?s=20

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[16-Jul-20 06:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jul-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:depressed:


[16-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Honahue#0656
I see that the homeless man was a master of your fist to his face style, famously lethal martial art


[16-Jul-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/12/immunity-to-covid-19-could-be-lost-in-months-uk-study-suggests

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Immunity to Covid-19 could be lost in months, UK study suggests
Exclusive: King’s College London team found steep drops in antibody levels three months after infection
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[16-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie

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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie
The officers got the wrong man, but charged him anyway—with getting his blood on their uniforms. How the Ferguson PD ran the town where Michael Brown was gunned down.
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[16-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
> Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.


[16-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
from 2014


[16-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Crow#5457
the charge happened in 2009


[16-Jul-20 07:05 PM] Crow#5457
he wasn't just not only the wrong person, they actually beat the shit out of him in the police station


[16-Jul-20 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/missouri-school-district-forces-parents-to-sign-19-waiver-for-children/

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A school district in Missouri is requiring parents to sign a waiver in case children who participate in sports or other activities become infected with COVID-19 and die. The “waiver of liability” from Hazelwood School District was shared on Tuesday by attorney Natasha Scruggs....
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[16-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) hey thanks :Hugs: hope things get better for you too


[16-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://globalnews.ca/news/7184152/canadian-navy-seaman-gender/ this was a long time cumming :nut:

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Members of the navy as well as the public at large will be able to vote online on two alternatives starting Friday.
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[16-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Marukomuru#8409
lol


[16-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Seaman has been used as a joke too long


[16-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Idk why they didn't change it sooner


[16-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Honahue#0656
the new term is cumperson

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[16-Jul-20 08:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"What are you" "a sea man" "well yes but what is your job" "I told you seaman" " yeah thats what you where when you where being incepted but what do you do for work" "again im a seaman"


[16-Jul-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
marshmallow mateys


[16-Jul-20 08:13 PM] ononim#8141
anything interesting posted here?


[16-Jul-20 08:13 PM] ononim#8141
||anything about something outside of us?||


[16-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Prob not


[16-Jul-20 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-makes-south-china-sea-memes-as-it-challenges-china-2020-7

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The US Navy is making South China Sea memes as its warships anger C...
In addition to the destroyers, aircraft carriers, and other warships patrolling the area, the US Navy is now making South China Sea memes
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[16-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/507690-supreme-court-declines-to-reinstate-vote-of-nearly-1-million-florida

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Supreme Court declines to reinstate vote of nearly 1 million Florid...
The Supreme Court on Thursday let stand a lower court ruling that could strip voting eligibility from up to one million Florida felons who have completed their sentences but have yet to pay outstanding fines, restitution and other fees.
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[16-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Red Florida.


[16-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Seaman
More like
Sailor/crew member


[16-Jul-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Jul-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/16/us-coronavirus-data-has-already-disappeared-after-trump-administration-shifted-control-from-cdc-to-hhs.html

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Coronavirus data has already disappeared after Trump administration...
"We were surprised because the modules that we normally go to were empty. The data wasn't available and not there," coronavirus researcher Ryan Panchadsaram said. "There was no warning."
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[16-Jul-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in unsurprising news


[16-Jul-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
yep


[16-Jul-20 09:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1283824500652380160?s=21

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Supreme Court allows Florida to require ex-felons to repay fees before being allowed to register to vote
In a 6-3 vote the US Supreme Court declined to change Florida's voting rule that would allow convicted felons in the state to vote if they haven't paid all their court fees, fines and restitution.
Twitter


[16-Jul-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-meeting-masks-cancelled-when-residents-without-masks-pack-room-n1234017

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Utah meeting on masks is canceled when residents without masks pack...
"This is the exact opposite of what we need to be doing," a county commissioner said to boos. "We’re supposed to be physically distancing, wearing masks."
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[16-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[16-Jul-20 09:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Some fatass trump supporters


[16-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Crow#5457
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[16-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
the science of what i wonder :twismug:


[16-Jul-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
science of sky daddy

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[16-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
chemtrails :caddy:


[16-Jul-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gay frog daddy


[16-Jul-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, imagine showing all this to a 1990's republican, they'd decry it as unrealistic and biased


[16-Jul-20 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But now they're caught in it, and well


[16-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.azatutyun.am/a/30731987.html

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Azerbaijan Threatens Missile Attack On Armenian Nuclear Plant
Azerbaijan Threatens Missile Attack On Armenian Nuclear Plant
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[16-Jul-20 11:06 PM] jlun2#8758
because people wanted a sequel to chernobyl


[16-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's planned disaster or July 2020


[16-Jul-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
August 2020


[16-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What did we have for July?


[16-Jul-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
murder bears


[16-Jul-20 11:10 PM] jlun2#8758
furby?


[16-Jul-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, furby is a different kind of horrifying monstrosity


[16-Jul-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-checks-delivered-faster-wealthy-white-households-study-2020-7

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Stimulus checks were delivered faster to wealthy white households t...
Where 59% of families with income below the poverty level received their payments, 78% of those earning more said they got their check.
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[17-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
...probably because they live in the ass end of nowhere. No suprise.


[17-Jul-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
the fact that there are reasonable expectations of delays doesn't mean it isn't a real economic disadvantage


[17-Jul-20 12:14 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent im curious has remote working reached those ppl, or nah they're still ignored when considering remote work hiring


[17-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
isn't remote hiring (or not) up to primarily the worker?


[17-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Opponent#3498
I always assumed people who lived in the armpits of the land and did not remote work, did so because they couldn't or wouldn't, for occupational reasons or otherwise


[17-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
not that they wouldn't be hired if they tried.


[17-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Synfag#9241

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[17-Jul-20 01:05 AM] ononim#8141
https://therussianreader.com/2020/07/15/russian-red-book/

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The Red Book
A Russian environmentalist untangles a “ghost” fishing net. Such nets are deadly to wildlife, including the endangered Russian desman. Photo by V.I. Bulavintsev The Russian Desman Hangs…
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[17-Jul-20 01:06 AM] ononim#8141
heartbreaking


[17-Jul-20 01:08 AM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.thecollegefix.com/george-washington-university-hides-syllabus-urging-students-to-read-book-equating-conservatism-and-racism/

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Greg Piper - Associate Editor
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George Washington University hides syllabus urging students to read...
Blocks access to the reading list shortly after press query.
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[17-Jul-20 01:30 AM] ononim#8141
https://elpitazo.net/oriente/trabajadores-petroleros-se-declaran-en-huelga-permanente-en-anzoategui/

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Giovanna Pellicani
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Trabajadores petroleros se declaran en huelga permanente en Anzoáte...
El director ejecutivo de la Federación Unitaria de Trabajadores Petroleros en Venezuela, Eudis Girot, calificó como humillación el pago de $150 exclusivo para la nómina de PDV Marina
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[17-Jul-20 01:31 AM] ononim#8141
Oilworker strike in Venezuela


[17-Jul-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Jul-20 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-bans-localities-from-making-mask-mandates-2020-7

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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp sues Atlanta Mayor over mask mandate, a day...
Georgia recorded more than 3,870 new coronavirus infections on Wednesday and has over 127,800 confirmed COVID-19 cases.
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[17-Jul-20 02:29 AM] ononim#8141
https://nsn.fm/society/v-rossii-transgenderam-zapretyat-braki-i-usynovlenie-detei
https://www.lgbtnet.org/ru/newseng/korotko-o-glavnom-chto-za-izmeneniya-predlozhili-vnesti-v-semeynyy-kodeks-rossii-i-kak-eto

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В России трансгендерам запретят браки и усыновление детей
Людям, которые сменили в результате операции пол, в России могут запретить заключать официальные браки
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Коротко о главном: что за изменения предложили внести в семейный ко...
14 июля мы узнали о том, что несколько членов Совета Федерации опубликовали информацию о трех законопроектах, вносящих серьезные изменения в жизнь ЛГБТ+ сообщества в России. Юрист Российской ЛГБТ-сети Александр Белик рассказывает о том, что за изменения предложили внести в сем...
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[17-Jul-20 02:29 AM] ononim#8141
Bill that would take in account both assigned at birth and current gender when signing marriage (clerks of registry office now can be able ask for the certificate of birth) is introduced into lower chamber of Russian parliament. Along with that it has full ban on same gender marriages, which will prevent the rare loopholes that allowed citizens who married abroad to be legally recognised as family.
In practice it will most likely mean that trans people will be barred from marrying period, no matter the gender of their spouse. The bill also bans trans people from adoption.
There's also uncertainty, what this bill, if (haha if) passed, will mean for same gender couples who were recognised as such due to the loophole cited above, as well as couples of different genders, what have at least one trans person in it, the later of which wasn't technically illegal before; whenever they will be left alone as a legal artefact, or will have their marriage nullified.

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[17-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
traditional Christian values in action.


[17-Jul-20 02:48 AM] jlun2#8758
so when will russia have its culture war?


[17-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
probably never.


[17-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Opponent#3498
they've got a good 30 or so years of Putin's rule, and after that... Who knows.


[17-Jul-20 02:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
More putin after that too.


[17-Jul-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
googling "russia culture war" gave me https://www.rferl.org/a/in-locked-down-russia-rising-domestic-violence-is-fueling-a-culture-war/30621188.html

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In Locked-Down Russia, Rising Domestic Violence Fuels A Culture War
With much of Russia nearing two months under lockdown, women’s rights activists warn of a marked rise in incidents of domestic violence. But conservatives who have long waged a cultural battle against what they call interference in family relations are dismissing such claims a...
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[17-Jul-20 02:50 AM] jlun2#8758
> The lawmakers’ comments are in line with the views of a vocal minority in Russian society, backed informally by the Russian Orthodox Church, that has denounced proposed measures to tackle domestic violence as part of an attempt to undermine what opponents of such measures call “traditional” values.


[17-Jul-20 02:51 AM] jlun2#8758
like uhh .... that sounds :raep:y


[17-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. This is MAGA on steroids, basicly.


[17-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
homophobia, xenophobia, mysoginy


[17-Jul-20 02:52 AM] Opponent#3498
obligatory 'rising from the knees' I mentioned before.


[17-Jul-20 02:52 AM] jlun2#8758
> In one Siberian city, a 17-year-old and an 18-year-old who complained to police of sexual harassment on April 22 were subsequently charged with violating quarantine measures -- a scenario the lawmakers’ group and other activists want to avoid. The man who allegedly harassed the teenagers was arrested.
holy shit
is this even sustainable


[17-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
why wouldn't it be? A disarmed, docile population, with ingrained 'every man for himself' soviet mentality.


[17-Jul-20 03:08 AM] jlun2#8758
russia culture is static?


[17-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure about culture by itself, but Putin's government has chosen this 'return to better days' angle to reinforce their rule. The message is, with him the country is once again strong, they can give the rest of the world the finger (especially the Corrupt West, it's written into the constitution that Russia doesn't recognise international law), they reject the western degeneracy (LGBTQ, treating women like more than breeders etc)


[17-Jul-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
make russia great again


[17-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
exactly.


[17-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
like, literally this. And mainstream media's grip is strong enough (especially in worse-off provincial regions, the life is very different in Moscow/StPetersburg and most other places) to reinforce it indefinitely. And, there's nothing really to replace it, besides the rotten West and it's weird ideas.


[17-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
I've always believed you can tell stuff about people by what they fantasise and lie about. The common one in ru-space, besides the generic stuff like 'fucked all women, made all the money' etc, is 'have a friend (a Great Man, always in caps) higher up in FSB that can fix things. Any paperwork done in days instead of years, the police fears him, can have drugs/guns/whores in demand' and so on.


[17-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it's _really_ **_really_** common to hear variations of this.


[17-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
these people don't give a shit about anything. Silly things like law, ideology etc.


[17-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm just glad Ukraine is better. Not by a whole lot, but enough to matter.


[17-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is that for sexual fantasization, it's opposite.


[17-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone fantisizes about it heavily, it's most likely what they're told not to do.


[17-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why you see Republicans into adultery and Democrats into rapeplay.


[17-Jul-20 03:32 AM] jlun2#8758
so does that mean cracking down LGBTQ in Russia just makes them gayer


[17-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Arachnophobic huh? I bet you want to fuck spiders"- Bob Dylan for some reason


[17-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
well it makes things difficult for people who just want to live, hurts them economically. But this really isn't aimed at people it prohibits, this is for the rest, to reinforce the 'stick it to the West' angle.


[17-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
homophobia is already a norm for Russia. Less so in major cities, worse in regions, worker towns and such.


[17-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
think being abused and killed/driven to suicide for being gay, and the parents going, well, he was broken anyway, at least his siblings turned out right.


[17-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
(women get a free pass, as usual. Patriarchy has it's upsides.)


[17-Jul-20 03:42 AM] jlun2#8758
ignoring domestic violence seems like a bad way to stick to the west tho


[17-Jul-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
"sticking it to the west" is retarded in general


[17-Jul-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
not in the least because russia can't even be consistent about it


[17-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
it's to counteract the point that the entire Russian economy kind of depends desperately on the West buying their oil and gas.


[17-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think they have any other major item to produce except military hardware.


[17-Jul-20 03:46 AM] byte[]#2610
unrelated https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-hoping-iran-confrontation-before-november-election-sources-2020-7

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Israel keeps blowing up military targets in Iran, hoping to force a...
Iran has suffered a series of bombings and fires at major military facilities in recent weeks.
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[17-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
People say Israel did nothing wrong.


[17-Jul-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Well, some people do


[17-Jul-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
they did so much horrific shit


[17-Jul-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
US politicians: it is NOT "antisemitic" to not support an authoritarian regime that just happens to be jewish


[17-Jul-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
but, here we are


[17-Jul-20 04:08 AM] jlun2#8758
> The common one in ru-space, besides the generic stuff like 'fucked all women, made all the money' etc, is 'have a friend (a Great Man, always in caps) higher up in FSB that can fix things. Any paperwork done in days instead of years, the police fears him, can have drugs/guns/whores in demand' and so on.
for some reason i cant find that sentiment while looking for russian art. i think im in a diff echo chamber


[17-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, perhaps. This is one of the things you're likely to hear in some chat at night, when someone gets drunk and decides to impress people


[17-Jul-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://lausan.hk/2020/state-department-train-hong-kong-police/

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Trump's executive order confirms US State Department has trained th...
Records show the State Department's collaboration with Hong Kong police dates back more than a decade.
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[17-Jul-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
hmmmm


[17-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/penn-state-liberal-arts-deletes-tweet-conservatives/

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Penn State Liberal Arts college deletes tweet pledging support for ...
The wrath of Twitter users.
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[17-Jul-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/507769-missouri-spending-15-million-in-coronavirus-relief-funds-on-boosting

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Missouri spending $15M in coronavirus relief funds on boosting tourism
Missouri plans to spend $15 million in federal coronavirus aid on promoting tourism in the state, Gov. Mike Parson (R) announced Thursday.
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[17-Jul-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/507764-vaccine-scientist-predicts-us-is-weeks-away-from-every

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Vaccine scientist predicts US is weeks away from every American kno...
A top vaccinologist warned Thursday that the U.S. was on course to see drastically higher numbers of serious infections from the coronavirus outbreak, pointing to rising death rates around the country.
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[17-Jul-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
> Vaccine scientist predicts US is weeks away from every American...
> ...knowing 'seriously ill' coronavirus patient
the cutoff made me thought they meant the cases jumping to 300m


[17-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/black-power-naps-addressing-systemic-racism-in-sleep

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Sleep Isn't Equitable, So These Artists Want Rest as Reparations
The pair behind Black Power Naps explain how systemic racism impacts sleep.
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[17-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Synfag#9241
wait... WHAT?!!


[17-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Synfag#9241
> *blacks have had shorter lives than whites because blacks were not permitted to sleep, and thus reparations must be given in the form of time off from work...*


[17-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Synfag#9241
since when is sleep deprivation passed on genetically?


[17-Jul-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180309095520.htm

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Can't sleep? Could be down to genetics: Large study confirms that i...
Researchers have identified specific genes that may trigger the development of sleep problems, and have also demonstrated a genetic link between insomnia and psychiatric disorders such as depression, or physical conditions such as type 2 diabetes.


[17-Jul-20 05:30 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-red-dead-online-players-have-started-dressing-as-clowns-20200715
wtf?

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'Red Dead Online' Players Have Started Dressing As Clowns In Protest
Send in the clowns.
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[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, apparently insomnia may be hereditary in some cases


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
guess im black now.
:tired:


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] gamer protest ^


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I already reacted


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Synfag#9241
> *and thus reparations must be given in the form of time off from work...*


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
baka


[17-Jul-20 05:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
what are they protesting?


[17-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Synfag#9241
🤣


[17-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Synfag#9241
protests are becoming more of an excuse to not work


[17-Jul-20 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, liberal college students


[17-Jul-20 05:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lotsa collective self-esteem, way too much tbh


[17-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Synfag#9241
when I thought slacktivists couldn't go any lower


[17-Jul-20 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4959831/ :shrugpony:

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[17-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Synfag#9241
they're redefining the term of slacking off


[17-Jul-20 05:34 AM] jlun2#8758
oh thats why u posted here
was confused about sleep & politics


[17-Jul-20 05:34 AM] PwnyPony#6185
We should all be looking for a 4 day working week. More job spaces. and more time for people.


[17-Jul-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
you all took the bait super hard


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait what


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Synfag#9241
now everyone is defending *reparations in the form of time off from work*


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, it just left me with questions regarding insomnia so i posted my findings


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Synfag#9241
with all those studies about insomnia and genetics


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have an argument, i just found interesting things about insomnia


[17-Jul-20 05:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
i want my insomnia reparation. :tired:


[17-Jul-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s neither a defense in favor or against said reperations


[17-Jul-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
At least one person's main role here is to post outrage bait articles from the "woke left" and see if you will defend them as a form of humor


[17-Jul-20 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/507738-lawmakers-zero-in-on-twitter-following-massive-hack

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Lawmakers zero in on Twitter following massive hack
The sweeping hack of verified Twitter accounts Wednesday night was one of the largest security lapses in the platform’s history and led to thousands of users being partially locked out for hours.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/twitter_071620istock_illustration_web.jpg


[17-Jul-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
So, social engineering


[17-Jul-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
That's what I thought, but basically just confirmation of it


[17-Jul-20 05:46 AM] PwnyPony#6185
imagine getting into a celebs twitter and using it to post a request for bitcoin. what a waste.


[17-Jul-20 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hack into Trump's account and delete it


[17-Jul-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
See this is very big brain liberalism, instead of discussing that people must work too much to survive in america due to terrible wages and lack of decent first world public healthcare and are permanently a tired husk of themselves, unable to persue any of their passions, they instead ask for less work for minorities.


[17-Jul-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507619-rnc-scales-back-convention-in-jacksonville-due-to-coronavirus

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Republicans scale back convention in Jacksonville due to coronaviru...
Republicans announced Thursday they will scale back the Republican National Convention in August as coronavirus cases rise in Florida, where President Trump is expected to deliver a speech accepting his party's nomination for reelection.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/rnc_071816gn3_lead_0.jpg


[17-Jul-20 05:57 AM] jlun2#8758
> The posts, which were quickly taken down by Twitter, gave an address to a bitcoin wallet, and promised to double any amount sent. The individuals behind the attack quickly raised the equivalent of more than $115,000. 
:facepaw:


[17-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:faceclaw:


[17-Jul-20 06:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
:wheeze:


[17-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine being daft enough to do that.


[17-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Opponent#3498
and those aren't the completely detached boomers, they wouldn't have bitcoin to send.


[17-Jul-20 06:05 AM] wren#0114
:isee:


[17-Jul-20 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
such a wasted mass hacking


[17-Jul-20 06:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/507776-amash-confirms-hes-not-campaigning-for-reelection

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Amash confirms he won't seek reelection
Michigan Rep. Justin Amash (L) confirmed Thursday evening that he was not seeking reelection to Congress, in an apparent end to his 2020 political aspirations.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/amashjustin_052819getty_0.jpg


[17-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Serenity#9645
well the accounts gotten into and the time it was under attack does allow for the downloading of direct messages logs, the bitcoin scheme could have been some quick cash but nothing compared to obama, biden, apple, microsoft, tesla and much more direct messages that could be shared or used against the country/company


[17-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, most likely a joke.


[17-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
if twater was seen to be safe as can be with cybersecurity, who knows what these companys or Politians have said privately that we shouldnt know, kinda like the admin chat log leaks of derpi didnt make them look good but it isnt a pony image board its a leader of the country or a journalist or a companies inner banter/feelings that isnt ment to be made public


[17-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Opponent#3498
(also tbh the chat logs only made things better to me - I gained more respect for Nebbie in particular)


[17-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
it may do that as well but remember hate sells better and if the hackers decide to only post negative snipits it could go bad. but in the end it maybe a get rich quick scheme of a estimated 100k i just dont wanna think that they passed 2 way authetication to just get that little of money from tweeting from bidens account


[17-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah no, 'send me money' was definitely a joke. It's the time favourite of online games in particular, which is I assume where they got the idea.


[17-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it just happened to work a little bit. :lul: .


[17-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
bitcoin scams work, why would elerium take over youtubers accounts like princewheteverer for many days if it didnt. but passing the security of one of the biggest "platforms" of now to take over the democratic nomine to just troll and maybe make abit of bitcoin? i just kinda doubt that and label it as conspiracy but i bet they will make alot more money selling direct messages to people then their bitcoin scheme ever will. i just have my doubts it was just a troll/3ish hours of fame with some bitcoin grabs


[17-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Opponent#3498
indeed.


[17-Jul-20 07:26 AM] jlun2#8758
do both?
unless they are that dumb


[17-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, they got what they came for, had a bit of time and left a joke behind.


[17-Jul-20 07:29 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/tech/twitter-hack-security-analysis/index.html>
> "If Ivanka [Trump's] account were to tweet the extreme hypothetical, 'I'm so proud of my father tonight for making the hard decisions; nuclear war is never easy, but we'll win it,' that would ... be problematic," said an ex-Twitter employee, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a former employer.


[17-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Opponent#3498
although tbh, with the political climate being now what it is, there better be one hell of a bombshell there to make it worth. There's plenty enough hate to go around already


[17-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Opponent#3498
also that :D That'd be so much better.


[17-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Opponent#3498
instant doom for Trump's campaign likely


[17-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like there's no "instant doom" scenario for Trump's campaign. The guy could murder someone on television and his supporters wouldn't be deterred.

Beating him is gonna be about convincing everyone else to show up and vote.


[17-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Serenity#9645
it can also swing other ways, if journalists DM each other or with violent activists to put them in a good light well withholding bad details it could create a absolute loss of faith in media. that and if biden showed support for the the violent activists and their cause then alot of moderates or anti-violence people will drop their support. just as much as if trump DMs calling for another cuba crisis and red scare will cause without the unity that was seen back then.


[17-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Serenity#9645
it can swing both ways good or bad it just depends on what they want to show, but ill guess its trump supporting due to him not being on the list of people that shared bitcoin links


[17-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Opponent#3498
now that I'm thinking of it, what they did was quite harmless overall.


[17-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
that Ivanka's tweet, or something like Biden off-handedly mentioning Epstein or something, that'd be most unpleasant


[17-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
this is like w/e. An obvious joke.


[17-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Opponent#3498
it does no harm to the owners.


[17-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Serenity#9645
time will tell, but the "ivanka's tweet" is a exteme hypothetical. but already twitter has lost alot of trust in cybersecurity. its still fresh so maybe a new platform will be used in the future to hold political debate who knows


[17-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Opponent#3498
I loved the fact that platform raking in billions with data mining got attacked with it's own tricks, more or less. That's poetic.


[17-Jul-20 07:45 AM] byte[]#2610
notrly


[17-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
well, perhaps I'm misunderstanding their use of 'social engineering' then. Ah well, eventually the story will appear.


[17-Jul-20 07:47 AM] byte[]#2610
someone paid a twitter employee money to grant access to staff tools


[17-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Serenity#9645
it means alot even without DM leaks. its on the choping block for not resolveing a security risk in mins and locking out people well it went down. alot of people in elevated positions have lost faith and are scared of leaks so a new platform may arise. but maybe it will be seen as a state china hacker group and security will be bulstered with political aid and will continue to thrive. its all hypothetical and there are many roads.


[17-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
that'd be disappointingly simple :<


[17-Jul-20 07:48 AM] byte[]#2610
most social engineering tricks are not much more complicated than this


[17-Jul-20 07:49 AM] byte[]#2610
more commonly you see spearphish emails where an individual is targeted with some sort of thing like an official-looking password reset email leading to a fake site that dumps the user's credentials


[17-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Serenity#9645
but 2 factor authentication beats that, someone high up had to be paid or a really good group can spoof alot to get a few accounts. it was a inside job has to be and lots say it is but where is the background checks for that acess and who is paying? whats their agenda? how can you pay someone alot of money to expect alot back? its been estimated around 100k maybe more not but thats not enough for a employee to loose a job that more then likely pays more then that in a year. again conspiracy and speculation but im just not buying the troll/get rich quick from bitcoin thing


[17-Jul-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
not if the spearphish page also captures a two factor token


[17-Jul-20 07:54 AM] byte[]#2610
remember, this all happens because the user is providing the information voluntarily


[17-Jul-20 07:56 AM] Serenity#9645
so obama, biden, tesla, apple, microsoft all gave it away voluntarily. their cellphone numbers? their emails? their google accounts? their device IDs for random tokens? (idk what twitter uses but most use a mixture of these)


[17-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Serenity#9645
then the spoofing of all those different ways had to be replicated all at the same time to receive the token and logged in


[17-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
nah. Just the dumbass with the mod rights.


[17-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Serenity#9645
im gonna go against the spearfishing idea. maybe if it was just biden and not a shit ton of accounts. id say insider was paid and paid way better then the bitcoin scam could achieve cus the admins and coders are paid too good to accept that


[17-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe ideological? wanna watch it burn more then the money for seeing so many things they like banned? its slim but possable


[17-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Serenity#9645
either way time will tell i guess its too fresh to say and damage control will say alot of things rashly but people will have their speculations and doubts either way as its a massive security trust violation


[17-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Opponent#3498
Twitter was never secure in the conventional sense since the data was processed and sold anyway, so that's not a loss


[17-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
only thing that changed is that now even those select few who (probably) were not monetised got to experience full service :3


[17-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
Twitter getting a hit - good. Trump being potentially forbidden to tweet citing national security - even better.


[17-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Serenity#9645
trust me im trying to remain nuetral and look at it as a IT person, but deep down i wanna see it burn


[17-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I see no downside to this.


[17-Jul-20 08:15 AM] HerdAnon#6614
If the major social media went down I can't say I'd miss it. Say for the very few Facebook games I used to play.


[17-Jul-20 08:15 AM] jlun2#8758
> Trump being potentially forbidden to tweet 
:wheeze:
he wont be stopped


[17-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Serenity#9645
i kinda wanna say another conspiracy theory and say if tumblr didnt alienate the majority of its base and twitter didnt accept it with open arms thus bringing them into the political sphere it wouldnt be this bad


[17-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Opponent#3498
still. Brought a smile to your lips didn't it :3


[17-Jul-20 08:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@HerdAnon down with zucc


[17-Jul-20 08:16 AM] HerdAnon#6614
One was some shit called War Commander. Pretty basic p2w top down fighting game, like clash of clans.


[17-Jul-20 08:17 AM] HerdAnon#6614
@jlun2  oh I agree. Fuck the traitorous fucks, selling all the info.


[17-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle, but I do kinda miss the pre-social media days when way more people went out and made their own little websites and forums. Internet was full of smaller communities with their own identities and personalities.


[17-Jul-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
>im gonna go against the spearfishing idea. maybe if it was just biden and not a shit ton of accounts.


[17-Jul-20 08:18 AM] byte[]#2610
but we already know how it happened; a twitter employee was paid money to grant someone else access to staff tools


[17-Jul-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
you don't need confirmation that it was spearphishing, because it wasn't


[17-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Serenity#9645
>not if the spearphish page also captures a two factor token
>remember, this all happens because the user is providing the information voluntarily


[17-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
he said 'usually'


[17-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
not talking about this specific incident.


[17-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Serenity#9645
trust me i work on IT security for systems im not legally able to talk about on aircraft, starting on fixing computers with degrees and certificates, i know what phishing and spearphishing is and i know what a whitehat is very well lol 2 factor is pretty secure when it is 2 forms of seperate identification like a id card with chip and a pin pretty hard to spoof but can be done


[17-Jul-20 08:27 AM] byte[]#2610
and I'm a cybersecurity researcher


[17-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Serenity#9645
and again, you said what i linked above about the issue?


[17-Jul-20 08:36 AM] byte[]#2610
I listened to what you said


[17-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Serenity#9645
what cybersecurity resercher says twitter was attacked by a spearphish that captures 2 factor? and it was all the twitter pages that gave it up all at the same time?


[17-Jul-20 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I am not talking about a spearphish of individual accounts, I am talking about a spearphish of a staff account


[17-Jul-20 08:37 AM] byte[]#2610
one that has the ability to, say, verify, change the email of verified accounts, send them password reset emails, etc.


[17-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Serenity#9645
any reasonable company has training monthly or more about these kinds of attacks, yeah their boring but they have them and posters everywhere to remind you


[17-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Serenity#9645
none the less backround checks for those tools to only people with clearence and trust


[17-Jul-20 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
it's also against the law to go over the speed limit, but I go over the speed limit all the time


[17-Jul-20 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
do you see where this is going? training and policies against something happening does not prevent it from happening


[17-Jul-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
and just because you still seem confused about this, even after Opponent cleared it up, I never said a twitter staff account was spearphished


[17-Jul-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
In fact I literally said the exact opposite of that, twice, which you seem to have somehow missed both times


[17-Jul-20 08:42 AM] byte[]#2610
the context for this discussion was that _usually_ social engineering tricks are not super complicated compared to things like exploiting code vulnerabilities which is frequently very challenging if there's no automated takeover tool for it


[17-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Serenity#9645
i do agree you did argue against the point as well but it does seem like you argue for as well before even the doubt people in that field most of the time know what their doing, they know dont stick a usb drive in a computer enless its company owned and not tainted. yeah some people do but most will slap the shit out of you before you get the chance to bring up the idea. you should know that most cases are deliberate or people not qualified to do it, and even then the computers are set up to reduce that effect as much as possable if it is a act of idiocrocracy and have many isolated systems for acess of just their level


[17-Jul-20 08:51 AM] byte[]#2610
all it takes is a couple opsec fails to get into most systems


[17-Jul-20 08:52 AM] byte[]#2610
(the level of access you get varying)


[17-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Serenity#9645
service?


[17-Jul-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1283972378620506113

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The Secretary of Homeland Security released a statement justifying the invasion of Portland, by a variety of federal agencies that refuse to identify themselves or speak with local officials, using a list of violent Antifa crimes. Only issue is it’s a list of graffiti inciden...
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[17-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

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Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Of...
Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanat...
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[17-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
so federal law enforcement is pulling some gestapo secret police bullshit in portland


[17-Jul-20 09:47 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Serenity speaking of inside jobs, there were a lot of cases in history, where elevated privileges owners all of sudden gave away their credentials. There is no need to pay for this, just threaten someone dear to that person, aka $10 wrench.

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[17-Jul-20 09:48 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even there were cases without external motivation.


[17-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Marches[45]#0674
> We aren't trying to stop tourists. Or even immigrants for that matter. 

> Tell that to the segregationist up there who wants mass deportation of even legal immigrants (particularly nonwhite ones).

> I'm sure there are reasons.


[17-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Marches[45]#0674
:wat:


[17-Jul-20 10:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
where were you when people supported fascist, unaccountable nameless secret police to own the commies?


[17-Jul-20 11:00 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Tartarus.


[17-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1283765443208110082

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The White House’s personnel office is conducting "loyalty tests" of appointees across agencies including HHS, in an attempt to root out those insufficiently dedicated to President Donald Trump
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[17-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, trump's purging anyone not loyal to him from the HHS, probably was easier to reroute the data pipeline to the HHS and then fire everyone there instead of trying to control the CDC


[17-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdEKIDlWoAA_Blg.jpg:orig

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[17-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/cMspsOH08cE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMspsOH08cE
Anti-Masker Goes On A Tirade
America just can't get enough of these Karens, can they?
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[17-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676953487019474961/733429512263434371/video0.mp4

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[17-Jul-20 01:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Good video but i wanna know whole story


[17-Jul-20 01:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
it was self defence from angry mob,right?


[17-Jul-20 01:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can stop posting things you found on a /pol/esque server and instead post the articles/sources

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[17-Jul-20 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/507756-trump-rewrite-of-longstanding-environmental-law-pushes-climate

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A deep dive into President Trump’s rollback of a bedrock environmental law shows the extent to which the administration is dramatically narrowing the scope of government reviews for major projects by setting aside c
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[17-Jul-20 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.startribune.com/bodycam-video-shows-minneapolis-police-officer-pulled-gun-on-george-floyd-early-on/571778072/

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Bodycam video shows officer pulled gun on George Floyd early on
Video from body cameras worn by two of the officers involved in the killing of George Floyd was viewed by the public for the first time.
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[17-Jul-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Body-worn camera footage from former Minneapolis police officer Thomas Lane showed that George Floyd was given no explanation for why he was being questioned before Lane pointed a gun and swore at him, touched him multiple times and forced him out of his vehicle into the street.
> 
> The court made footage captured by Lane and fellow fired officer J. Alexander Kueng publicly viewable Wednesday by appointment. Sixty-six spaces were made available at one-hour increments to watch the videos that totaled about 65 minutes.


[17-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:ts_cry:


[17-Jul-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it just keeps getting worse :tired:


[17-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
the catchphrase of 2020 is "It gets worse."


[17-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I wonder what catchphrase 2021 gonna give us


[17-Jul-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Hold my meth, boi! You aint seen shit yet! "

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[17-Jul-20 04:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1284126042748260355?s=21

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[17-Jul-20 04:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Wha


[17-Jul-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and your family is barred from charities in new york for frauding a children's cancer charity


[17-Jul-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-twitter-account-extra-protection-twitter-hack-2020-7

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Trump's Twitter account was reportedly unaffected by Wednesday's ma...
President Donald Trump's Twitter account was given special protection after "past incidents," The Times reports.
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[17-Jul-20 04:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, that's a good thing.
Imagine if some hacker had taken control and said something like "The missiles are on their way to China".


[17-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah the anon 'ex-Twitter exployee' suggested just that.


[17-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Opponent#3498
only better, as it wouldn't come directly from him and would seem more legit.


[17-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the reason I found that hillarious though.


[17-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the 'special protections' likely do not exist in practice. There is no SUPER VIP mode or something. At best, they can make some poor bastard stare at his tweets 16 hours a day and make sure they're consitent :wheeze:


[17-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
but he wouldn't be himself if he understood that so it's all good.


[17-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1284072755424616449

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Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle)
https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1284072755424616449
Will Joe Biden do more to protect religious liberty than Donald Trump? Not a prayer. “City of Toronto Bans Catholic Churches From Administering Holy Communion” https://t.co/9oR3YI7Zkf
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[17-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
> Will Joe Biden do more to protect religious liberty than Donald Trump? Not a prayer. “City of Toronto Bans Catholic Churches From Administering Holy Communion”


[17-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
> Joe Biden


[17-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
> Donald Trump


[17-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
> City of Toronto


[17-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/nickyoung-questionmarks-what-excuseme-huh-gif-4486363

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https://tenor.com/view/nickyoung-questionmarks-what-excuseme-huh-gif-4486363
????
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[17-Jul-20 04:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Wtf


[17-Jul-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fuck is biden gonna do about a city in canada?


[17-Jul-20 04:51 PM] illumnious#7938
Wat


[17-Jul-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Once again, FOX news crew being stupid


[17-Jul-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Make toronto practice catholocism, or we will invade it militarily with the power of christ!"


[17-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Skydreams#1312
Who needs *facts* or *consistency* when you have the power of God and ~~anime~~ propaganda on your side


[17-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Skydreams#1312
:Skydreams:


[17-Jul-20 05:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trumps newest campaign slogan: Make Catholic Canada Repent After Purity


[17-Jul-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[17-Jul-20 05:14 PM] wren#0114
are we annexing canada yet


[17-Jul-20 05:22 PM] Marukomuru#8409
🇨🇦 🦅


[17-Jul-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not till america annexes america


[17-Jul-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then we can annex those dirty commie canadicans


[17-Jul-20 05:36 PM] >That Guy#3386
Some memelord donated $1488 to that artpack.


[17-Jul-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/DanMcKATU/status/1283822343081431040?s=20

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Longer clip. This was part of a Facebook Live I was shooting. 
Prior to the tackle, the bicyclist was riding up SW 4th in downtown Portland, when an officer made a move towards him.
When he turned back down the street- they took him down.
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[17-Jul-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@>That Guy when you're totes ironic with your nazi pony antics


[17-Jul-20 05:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
I mean.. It's his money. I guess if he's satisfied it doesn't matter.
A meme that costs $1488...


[17-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://time.com/5849163/why-describing-george-floyd-protests-as-riots-is-loaded/

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'A War of Words.' Why Describing the George Floyd Protests as 'Riot...
People have had to make choices about how to characterize widespread, evolving unrest. Are we in the midst of uprisings? Rebellions? Riots?
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[17-Jul-20 05:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
The artpack itself is just $1.


[17-Jul-20 05:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://i.imgur.com/RR6doOO.jpg

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[17-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Skydreams#1312
At least the money's going to somewhere positive, though I dunno if the recipients would be all that happy if they found out they were getting money from a nazi art pack.


[17-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Phelan#7647
How much has it made, last I checked it was like $7k


[17-Jul-20 05:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
A lot.


[17-Jul-20 05:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
It was a big hit, it seems.


[17-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Spite charity works


[17-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Skydreams#1312
:z_sky_disgust:


[17-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean that's what it is


[17-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Money for charity is money for charity ultimately


[17-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Skydreams#1312
Yeah. It just sucks it comes with the baggage that it does.


[17-Jul-20 06:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
Well, think of it this way:
All money that comes from "the bad guys" is money that "the bad guys" don't have.


[17-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Skydreams#1312
'A fool and his money are soon parted', kinda like?

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[17-Jul-20 06:22 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://electrek.co/2020/07/06/tesla-meteorite-rise-employees-very-rich/

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Tesla's meteoric rise is making a lot of employees very rich - Elec...
Tesla’s meteoric rise is making a lot of employees and executives very rich — but none richer than Elon Musk, who is seeing his personal wealth skyrocket. Like most other tech companies, Tesla is offering stock options and grants as part of its compensation packages. But unlik...
https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2018/07/Tesla-employees-celebrate-Model-3.jpg?quality=82&strip=all


[17-Jul-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mediaite.com/news/photographer-catches-topics-in-kayleigh-mcenanys-briefing-binder-obama-hate-golf-mueller-lies-lgbt-and-more/

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Photographer Catches Topics in Kayleigh McEnany's Binder
Photographer catches topics in Kayleigh McEnany's briefing binder: Obama, Goya, hate, golf, Mueller, lies, LGBT and more
https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Photographer-Catches-Topics-in-Kayleigh-McEnanys-Briefing-Binder.jpg


[17-Jul-20 07:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxi4Yp5IiY

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KOIN 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxi4Yp5IiY
Raw video: Federal officers deploy gas in downtown Portland, July 1...
Raw video of reporter Jennifer Dowling and photojournalist Matt Rashleigh's camera showing the lead up of protesters and federal officers on July 16, 2020.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VWxi4Yp5IiY/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Jul-20 07:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-chemotherapy-health-court-duties-2020-7

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg announces she is undergoing chemotherapy for a ...
Ginsburg said she would still be able to "do the job full steam" and would continue her "daily active routine."
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[17-Jul-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938

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[17-Jul-20 07:33 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why hasn't she retired?
She could have retired under Obama: she was old even back then.


[17-Jul-20 07:34 PM] jlun2#8758
lifelong is life long :twiright:


[17-Jul-20 07:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
Does she really intend to work until she dies?


[17-Jul-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably


[17-Jul-20 07:49 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/3je36OQ

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How New York has been able to keep coronavirus at bay while other s...
Medical experts say New York's strict health policies have helped it go from the epicenter of the pandemic to one of the few to see signs of recovery.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/central-park-new-york-rt-jt-200716_1594919794842_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[17-Jul-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oops


[17-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[17-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
one thing I love about this channel is, it's usually an excellent source of high-grade comedy.


[17-Jul-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
im left & never heard of goya :shrugpony:


[17-Jul-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
goya has always been unpopular even among latinos


[17-Jul-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
source: live in a latino family


[17-Jul-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it's much more expensive compared to the stuff you can get at e.g. mexican corner stores and not worth the extra cost, especially with how little in wages mexicans make compared to the US


[17-Jul-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
it's like one of those "bourgeoisie US latino" foods


[17-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Latino" food. 
Wasn't there a comic about these?


[17-Jul-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
itsthinking keeps linking that comic about shitty traditional asian foods


[17-Jul-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://reut.rs/2WrNDko

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Protests in Michigan after student jailed for not doing online scho...
Hundreds of Detroit-area students turned out in protest outside their high school Thursday calling for the release of a classmate who is in juvenile detention after not completing schoolwork during remote learning this past semester.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200716&t=2&i=1526046737&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG6F1Y3


[17-Jul-20 09:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The 15-year-old student, called Grace in the original ProPublica report that highlighted her situation, was on probation for fighting with her mother and stealing. ProPublica reported that Grace, who has attention deficit disorder, was easily distracted when studying at home and fell behind during remote learning. A Michigan circuit court judge sent Grace to juvenile detention in May, citing the schoolwork as a probation violation.
> 
> On Thursday afternoon, protesters assembled at Groves High School in the suburb of Beverley Hills before they drove to the Oakland County’s Circuit Court and prosecutor’s office holding up signs with calls to “Free Grace.”


[17-Jul-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/confederate-flags-ban-pentagon-trump-military-bases-a9625211.html

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Pentagon to ban all Confederate flags on military bases despite Tru...
Without explicitly mentioning the symbol, Mark Esper's memo says flags must reflect 'good order and discipline, treating all our people with dignity and respect, and rejecting divisive symbols'
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[17-Jul-20 09:02 PM] byte[]#2610
apparently there's some real shit going down in Portland OR


[17-Jul-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-officers-clash-with-protesters-in-portland-oregon-2020-7

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Federal officers Trump sent to Portland teargassed protesters despi...
Trump ordered the federal government to intervene — against state and city politicians' wishes — as protests have continued in the city for weeks.
https://i.insider.com/5f119afe191824259172ff68?width=1200&format=jpeg


[17-Jul-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxi4Yp5IiY

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KOIN 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxi4Yp5IiY
Raw video: Federal officers deploy gas in downtown Portland, July 1...
Raw video of reporter Jennifer Dowling and photojournalist Matt Rashleigh's camera showing the lead up of protesters and federal officers on July 16, 2020.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VWxi4Yp5IiY/maxresdefault.jpg


[17-Jul-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/507836-senate-gop-proposing-five-year-shield-from-coronavirus-lawsuits

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Senate GOP proposing five-year shield from coronavirus lawsuits
Senate Republicans are preparing to offer a five-year shield from coronavirus lawsuits as part of a forthcoming relief proposal.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mcconnellmitch_061620bc4_lead.jpg


[17-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Kick McConnell down the steps of Capitol Hill.


[17-Jul-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/507852-dems-say-interior-botched-study-of-polar-bears-in-pursuit-to-drill

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Democrats say Interior botched polar bear study in pursuit to drill...
Democratic lawmakers are pushing back against Department of the Interior plans to drill in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR,) arguing the agency wasn’t thorough before concluding that drilling activity wouldn’t harm local polar bears.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/polarbear.jpg


[17-Jul-20 09:59 PM] jimm#1439
why is there still so much debate about reopning schools if the Switzerland health ministry has determined kids are unable to be vectors of the virus (corroborated with there not being any recorded cases of someone catching the virus from a kid) alongside it being virtually unheard of for a kid to be affected by the virus?


[17-Jul-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6914e4.htm the cdc says otherwise

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Coronavirus Disease 2019 in Children — United States, February 12 ....
In this preliminary description of pediatric U.S. COVID-19 cases, relatively few children with COVID-19 are hospitalized, and fewer children than adults experience fever, cough, or shortness of ...
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[17-Jul-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fewer doesnt mean children are immune and they can be carriers


[17-Jul-20 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other thing to note is even if they are asymptomatic carriers, they still pass around the virus, which is a bad thing in a settign where tons of children are piled in together close quarters


[17-Jul-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when they go home, they bring it to their family, and then that family brings it to their friends and place of work


[17-Jul-20 10:07 PM] jimm#1439
I can't see where that says the kids spread it on a quick read, but still there haven't been recorded instances even with contact tracing 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/29/no-case-child-passing-coronavirus-adult-exists-evidence-review/

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No reported case of a child passing coronavirus to an adult exists,...
There has not been a single reported instance of a child under 10 transmitting the virus, even in contact tracing carried out by WHO
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2020/04/29/TELEMMGLPICT000229632467_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqXyOKvbS6Um0cKfbyZG7zOj6mLABU9GiaEMGd-O5UnQ8.jpeg?impolicy=logo-overlay


[17-Jul-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the key word there is "reported"


[17-Jul-20 10:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That doesnt mean there arent any, that just means if there are they havent been reported


[17-Jul-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-strain-in-us-and-europe-much-more-contagious/ another thing to note

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Mutated COVID-19 Viral Strain in U.S. and Europe 10 Times More Cont...
Researchers have found that the strains spreading so quickly in Europe and the U.S. have a mutated S “spike” protein that makes it about 10 times more infectious than the strain that originally was identified in Asia.
https://www.biospace.com/getasset/8d26b89c-9460-4db5-b1f6-14a2a215b959/;w=625;h=350


[17-Jul-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america and europe are dealing with a more contagious strain


[17-Jul-20 10:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:twinoose:


[17-Jul-20 10:13 PM] jimm#1439
I'd say it means it's extremely unlikely kids transmit it and makes a solid case that school reopening would be approximately as dangerous as if teachers were just standing in empty rooms, maybe a little bit more accounting for unknowns or surface contacts


[17-Jul-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont really have enough data to make that conclusion though as america's covid data is woefully incomplete


[17-Jul-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is under reported in data by the thousands due to our limited testing


[17-Jul-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
switzerland is another case entirely and has a much smaller population


[17-Jul-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s like trying to use japan;s numbers to justify american actions, japan has a different set up entirely with a vastly more prepared pandemic response


[17-Jul-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ksat.com/news/2020/06/23/study-suggests-80-of-covid-19-cases-in-the-us-went-undetected-in-march

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Study suggests 80% of Covid-19 cases in the US went undetected in M...
A new study suggests that as many as 8.7 million Americans came down with coronavirus in March, but more than 80% of them were never diagnosed.
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[17-Jul-20 10:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't like how politicians say stuff like the science is not clear or proven on masks or kids with the virus. Other viruses that are very similar in transmission and symtoms are proven to have a harder time passing though a mask and transmit extremely well among children. But corona is somehow able to defy physics and also not work on kids? :shrugpony:


[17-Jul-20 10:19 PM] jimm#1439
if the data from one country says kids can't transmit it with any significant probability, there's no reason to doubt the generality of the finding unless there's a specific reason, and none of this is convincing
maybe the US handled it badly, didn't test enough, etc. but none of that specifically contradicts this data point about kids not transmitting


[17-Jul-20 10:20 PM] jimm#1439
a few things that come to mind are kids' breath output being closer to the ground, having smaller lungs thus less volume of air pushed around


[17-Jul-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
> ProPublica reported that Grace, who has attention deficit disorder, was easily distracted when studying at home and fell behind during remote learning. 
huh. i have ADHD & my grades actually rose when i was able to remote work :shrugpony:


[17-Jul-20 10:21 PM] jlun2#8758
in class i was too distracted instead


[17-Jul-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/18/how-likely-are-kids-to-get-covid-19-scientists-see-a-huge-puzzle-without-easy-answers/

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How likely are kids to get Covid-19? Scientists see a ‘huge puzzle’
Much of the evidence has been conflicting, but scientists remain hopeful children are less likely to catch the virus and less likely to spread it.
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[17-Jul-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> There is some evidence that kids are less likely to catch the virus and less likely to spread it, but it’s not clear exactly how strong that evidence is. Much of it was generated at a time when children were caught up in the topsy-turvy world of Covid-19 transmission suppression, with schools closed and families cocooned, limiting their chances of catching or spreading the SARS-CoV-2 virus. In reality, it may take reopening schools and returning children to a closer-to-normal life for the picture to come into clearer focus.
> 
> If we’re lucky, and the hints in the data hold true, a normalizing of children’s lives — and the lives of their parents — could be safely achieved. If we’re not lucky, and the hints were false harbingers, more disruption likely lies ahead.


[17-Jul-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best solution would be to open schools in slow waves and observe the outcome, and if shit starts going south, end it and re-enter shut down.


[17-Jul-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should start with private schools since rich families seem so enthusiastic about this idea


[17-Jul-20 10:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You know, what I hate about entire covid thing? Governments use it as an excuse to abuse.

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[17-Jul-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other issue with re-opening schools is people pretending it;s a return to normalcy, This pandemic ended that status quo and there;s no going back to it even if you ignore it outright


[17-Jul-20 10:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[17-Jul-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
Days End Farm


[17-Jul-20 10:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[17-Jul-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy if that was furry it be porn even if no gentials lol


[17-Jul-20 10:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
.... Okay...


[17-Jul-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
or just slap AJ's cm :ponythinking:


[17-Jul-20 10:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
:wat:


[17-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
By the way, what it has to do with politics?

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[17-Jul-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/starbucks-customer-who-refused-to-wear-mask-demands-half-of-baristas-105000-in-tips/

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A customer who had a tiff with a Starbucks barista over face masks — earning the worker $105,000 in donations — now says she wants half the money. Amber Lynn Gilles had posted a photo of Lenin Gutierrez to social...
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[17-Jul-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jul-20 10:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
@Эᴚ|∫ 
Donations from the art pack posted earlier.


[17-Jul-20 10:45 PM] Opponent#3498
@Эᴚ|∫ you've gotta agree, this is much superior.


[17-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Superior to what?


[17-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@>That Guy oh, I see.


[17-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>unable to wear *face* mask
>*pelvic* exam for *ovarian* cysts


[17-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:ponkthonk:


[17-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I can give them the benefit of the doubt on asthma because I have that, but the rest doesn't add up.


[17-Jul-20 10:59 PM] wren#0114
why couldn't she have asked to talk for a sec and explain, and work something out like him leave the drink outside and she pick it up


[17-Jul-20 10:59 PM] wren#0114
:notbestpony:


[17-Jul-20 11:01 PM] wren#0114
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52764355

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Call for clear face masks to be 'the norm'
Transparent masks allow deaf people to communicate - but supplies are short where they are most needed.
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[17-Jul-20 11:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, this is actually a good idea.


[17-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Opponent#3498
@Эᴚ|∫ to actual politics.


[17-Jul-20 11:05 PM] PwnyPony#6185
You can see blonde ones view is already beginning to fog up. It's so the deaf can lip read.


[17-Jul-20 11:09 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fm3xHKn8Ag

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[17-Jul-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[17-Jul-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think 2010 me would have severe questions regarding the donald trump bit


[17-Jul-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like for starters "who the fuck is Donald Trump?"


[17-Jul-20 11:55 PM] illumnious#7938
The ass


[17-Jul-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/1283870123829403649?s=19

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[17-Jul-20 11:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
What do you think he's gonna do?


[17-Jul-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
probably something stupid


[18-Jul-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's gonna play his Trump card

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[18-Jul-20 12:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-officers-wearing-in-portland-wearing-gear-available-online-2020-7

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Anyone can buy the same military-style gear worn by federal officer...
The entire ensemble, right down to the minivan, is readily available to consumers through online shopping.
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[18-Jul-20 12:22 AM] jlun2#8758
so....protestors should all look like police?


[18-Jul-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-releases-plan-to-reopen-schools-amid-coronavirus-2020-7

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Joe Biden has a plan to save America's school season — and right no...
Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden endorses reopening based on local conditions, rather than Trump's widespread reopening stance.
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[18-Jul-20 12:26 AM] jlun2#8758
> reopening based on local conditions
how come this is almost never considered & ppl just scream online as if its "open all" or "close all"


[18-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Makes a lot more sense. Different parts of the country have different levels of severity.


[18-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When I go back to work at school in August, we're going to have "A" days and "B" days, where half the students go for A and the other for B, to reduce how many people are in the building at the same time.


[18-Jul-20 12:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that the Trump administration is treating it as an all or nothing, we either open them all at once, or Trump gets federal


[18-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He *says* he'll defund schools but I don't know if he can or will.


[18-Jul-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
he can and will


[18-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Local governments need to stand their ground and not reopen if it isn't safe.


[18-Jul-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
there, I answered your question for you


[18-Jul-20 12:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I also never want to hear Trump supporters complain about "federal overreach" ever again


[18-Jul-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
you will, don't worry


[18-Jul-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile devos sees this as an opportunity to privatize the whole system shoudl schools fail to open and Trump defunds them


[18-Jul-20 12:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I will, but I don't want to!


[18-Jul-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
federalism is only important to them when it's politically inconvenient


[18-Jul-20 12:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://news.yahoo.com/second-wave-covid-hits-israel-162129002.html

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‘The Second Wave’ of COVID Hits Israel Like a Tsunami
JERUSALEM—Like beachgoers informed there is no danger just before a tsunami hits, Israelis are stunned by the magnitude of the dramatic turn in their fortune. In under six weeks, they’ve gone from model nation fighting the novel coronavirus to a small, isolated country whose c...
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[18-Jul-20 12:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889842725/lessons-on-reopening-schools-the-u-s-could-learn-from-germany-israel-and-thailan

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While the United States debates the reopening of schools, NPR correspondents discuss experiences of Germany, Israel and Thailand as they reopen classrooms during the pandemic.
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[18-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
finally, some fimfiction drama


[18-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
some writer wrote some nazi story, I dunno what it's about tbh, I just went straight to the comments

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[18-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
I dunno if I should link it here or not. Just PM me if you wanna see it


[18-Jul-20 12:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I seriously don't get why *this* fandom's got (comparably, anyway) so much nazi stuff. it boggles my mind

You don't see, like, a bunch of art or stories about fascist Goombas in the Mario fandom or anything.


[18-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
did you check DeviantArt?


[18-Jul-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you might if you check certain art sites


[18-Jul-20 12:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
furaffinity might be another one


[18-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
ach, I'm sure he didn't check devinatart


[18-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think furaffinity banned that stuff


[18-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
that devinanart website has a lot of shit there
I'm wondering when they're gonna have an art that shows the exact steps to create a nuclear bomb


[18-Jul-20 12:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A nuclear *bob*-omb for the Mario fanart equivalent


[18-Jul-20 12:48 AM] likeafox#8888
is derpibooru not more permissive than DA?


[18-Jul-20 12:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think DA can have outright explicit sex stuff.


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I found an art of hitler mario


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
is hitler mario pregnant?


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
furies had a problem with an "explosion" of nazi furs a few years ago and the community in general came down hard against it


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
then hitler mario can't be that bad


[18-Jul-20 12:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay, I stand corrected. Nazi Mario art exists.

god damn it


[18-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a hitlerified _anything_, really


[18-Jul-20 12:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s true


[18-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
is there a hitlered hitler?


[18-Jul-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's plenty of nazi pokemon art


[18-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
okay, tbh, remove the nazi moustache and this could look like a good evil mario concept


[18-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
good evil, thats a bad way to phrase it, lol


[18-Jul-20 12:51 AM] PwnyPony#6185
but mario has a mustache


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The toothbrush moustache. It actually used to be a popular style before it became permanently associated with Hitler.


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For god's sake there's even marshmallow hitlers,

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[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
like how Hindus used the swastikas as a symbol of peace or something


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently hitler chose the toothbrush to seem more likable and all he ended up doing was tainting it forever


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
unfortunately most people just associate it with you know what instead.


[18-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[18-Jul-20 12:53 AM] likeafox#8888
mlp probably has a little more nazi art than other communities just cause of that one guy's nazi OC aryanne


[18-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, the swastika was from other things. Hitler was basically that asshole on deviantart who stole other peoples' art and recolored it and made it worse


[18-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Toothbrush stache is a sign that he was a WW1 trench veteran


[18-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it was one of the few types of moustache that'd fit properly inside the masks


[18-Jul-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that makes sense


[18-Jul-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
when your fandom is comprised of a lot of social outcasts it's not a surprise that "edgy" shit comes into play as often as it does


[18-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, maybe? As a teen I was deep into the Sonic fandom and we were all geeks and nerds too, but I don't remember being overly edgy.


[18-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And to be fair, I don't think most of the MLP fandom is either


[18-Jul-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah but then you get into the nazi sonic fandom


[18-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
the nazi stuff is vocal but not *numerous*


[18-Jul-20 12:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Shadow is the result of sonic fan edge.


[18-Jul-20 12:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s it in a nutshell


[18-Jul-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nazi members are more outcast than the other outcasts


[18-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And eh, deservedly so.


[18-Jul-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, they are outcasts for a very good reason


[18-Jul-20 12:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one wants to be friends with the edgy psychopath who wants to join a group known for mass genocide


[18-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This stuff happens gradually though. I feel like a lot of us could've gone the same way if our circumstances were different. I see these people - and see the things we have in common like our hobbies and mutual interests - and wonder what would've happened if the Youtube algorithm or anti-SJW mania or Gamergate had managed to get to me.

I have seen people who've gone down that rabbit hole come back out, and I hope more do.


[18-Jul-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed, i went down it a bit in my early 20's and then the sjw hype died down and i realized "wow this is really fucking stupid and awkward"


[18-Jul-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well not the nazi bits, just the anti sjw phase


[18-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A good friend of mine went in part-way. Never enough to become a fascist, but still enough to view the very presence of minorities in anything as inherently "political."

He got better though.


[18-Jul-20 01:02 AM] likeafox#8888
anti-sjw is a far cry from nazi, I think it takes a really special kind of person to brainwash themself into being a nazi >>


[18-Jul-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but it starts at junctions liek that


[18-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, radicalization is a process, not a lightswitch.


[18-Jul-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you start hating SJWs then you go down the road of just pure counter culture and it all bank rolls


[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@Ltmajordude what was the fic? am curious


[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but my time as an anti sjw also gave me a bit of insight into the psychology behind it


[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) im too busy to do those things


[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I just want everyone to play nicely

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[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
me too


[18-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And even on the left, *I* have to make sure I don't rub elbows with - like - tankies or nazbols or extremists too. Because people like that do hang around mainstream leftist discourse sometimes and they're no good either.


[18-Jul-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my high school drama fest definitely didnt help me in that department


[18-Jul-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never went conservative, I just got into sargon of akkad and the like and foudn them sort of funny and then they stopped being funny and i realized where i was headed


[18-Jul-20 01:07 AM] likeafox#8888
Does anyone even call themself a SJW anymore?  Isn't it just a pejorative now?


[18-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think anyone ever did.


[18-Jul-20 01:07 AM] likeafox#8888
I saw lots of self described SJWs in my tumblr days


[18-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But in 2013, it was largely used to describe people who outright hated the privileged/majority group. Like the "kill all men" types.

Nowadays it's just a dismissive catch-all against anyone with progressive politics.


[18-Jul-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there were a lot but msot of them were attention seeking princesses trying to cash in on a hype train


[18-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If you're pro-LGBT rights you're an "SJW" now. It's become almost meaningless


[18-Jul-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now it;s just something of a stereotype used to insult "da libterds"


[18-Jul-20 01:09 AM] likeafox#8888
oh yeah I watched plenty of sargon too


[18-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's honestly why I avoid the term at all and just try to be a reasonable person instead


[18-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm a little older than most people here I think, and my conservative phase was back in the Bush administration. 

I went from Republican to democratic socialist and I have to say teenage me wouldn't recognize myself.


[18-Jul-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the left and right are made of many many factions, which is why the 2 party system is so fucking broken


[18-Jul-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
im pro-lgbt & feminist with favs that suggest otherwise :shrugpony:


[18-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'm pro-LGBT and feminist as well


[18-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Same, I feel like that's just kinda... "Hey, do you think people should be treated like *people?"*


[18-Jul-20 01:11 AM] jlun2#8758
@Dr. Mechano kinda hard online imo


[18-Jul-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm a social democrat, egalitarian, and wishing we could jsut fix shit without all the fucking drama and capitalism getting in the way


[18-Jul-20 01:11 AM] likeafox#8888
I'm also socdem and egalitarian


[18-Jul-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think capitalism is fully bad, it;s just rampantly unchecked right now


[18-Jul-20 01:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you chain capitalism to a wall and pair it with socialism, you might have a decently working combination


[18-Jul-20 01:12 AM] likeafox#8888
Yeah same


[18-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was homophobic in high school but it was largely religious indoctrination and not accepting my own bisexuality. I still think casual homophobia's a problem but it's gotten *so* much better than when I was that age.

Like, I teach at a high school and I see students who are openly gay and trans and we just *couldn't* do that when I was in school.


[18-Jul-20 01:13 AM] likeafox#8888
capitalism is awful but I'm also not convinced there's a better system, so the best might be capitalism-lite


[18-Jul-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the problem is everyone keeps trying to jsut do one system at a time isntead of sewing them together in a sort of frankenstein's economy


[18-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
```But in 2013, it was largely used to describe people who outright hated the privileged/majority group. Like the "kill all men" types.
Nowadays it's just a dismissive catch-all against anyone with progressive politics.```
Nowadays it's synonimous with 'cancel crowd'.


[18-Jul-20 01:14 AM] likeafox#8888
ideological purity is cringe


[18-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
they're the same people almost entirely.


[18-Jul-20 01:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I used to be very sheltered in as a teen, it wasnt until my 20's that i truly started exploring myself and it wasn;t until 2016 that i openly realized that I was bi


[18-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a problem, but it's also nothing new or nothing exclusive to the left.

When right-wing or trolling communities erect entire wikis and forums devoted to humiliating people like ED or Kiwi Farms (which have been around since the 00s), is that not "cancel culture" in a sense, too?


[18-Jul-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
I try to avoid buzzwords, especially poisoned ones


[18-Jul-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"hate speech" and "SJW" come to mind


[18-Jul-20 01:18 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
reminder that buzzword is a buzzword :twiright:


[18-Jul-20 01:18 AM] likeafox#8888
hate speech isn't a buzzword, it's just very nebulous and no one will ever be able to agree what it means


[18-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano does it pull down websites and prevent people from finding jobs?


[18-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think putting up potentially embarrassing things about real people could do that, yes.


[18-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
no. 'Could'. Does it? Because leftist cancelling does.


[18-Jul-20 01:20 AM] likeafox#8888
oh kiwi farms has destroyed peoples lives, no question


[18-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm saying it's principally the same thing and if you oppose one you should oppose both.


[18-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
it provably does. In addition to generating lawsuits in some of the more submissive countries.


[18-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, I am. As of right now, I'm only aware of the nazi (and other topics) witch hunt on various platforms. If there's anything of the sort going on in other spheres, I'd be absolutely against it as well.


[18-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When it comes to hateful language, I care more about consequences than intent.

Like, if you step on my foot by accident, you may have not *meant* to, but it still hurts. Me asking you to watch your step is reasonable.

So if someone asks you not to use certain words or phrases around them because they find it hurtful, that's fine. You don't *have* to change the way you speak, but that person is still free to decide it isn't worth the pain of hearing it, and opt not to spend time with you.


[18-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do acknowledge it's not always meant to be hateful of course.


[18-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
so, in short, as long as they say they're offended, they're free to restrict me as they please, by default.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. This is the issue people have with this idea.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because you're still free to say it anyway. They're just free to leave.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
I don't much care for "identity politics"
The only determining factor for what rights anyone is afforded should be whether or not they're a citizen. Nobody should be afforded any more or less rights based on any aspect of their identity.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's about being decent to each other and finding common ground.


[18-Jul-20 01:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's like...

It's why I don't curse around my grandma. Not that I think cursing is inherently bad, but because I know she doesn't like it.


[18-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I could make some huge stand about "freedom" but I love her and don't want to needlessly antagonize her, so


[18-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
so if you have a reason to be nice to someone, you can meet their demands. Fair.


[18-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, again, I don't see it as demands


[18-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
perhaps a harsher word than needed in this case, but it's what they are.


[18-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
More like "Hey. I feel hurt when you do this." and opting to be empathetic enough not to do it around them.


[18-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Opponent#3498
preferences is nicer.


[18-Jul-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Can you not call me a fag?" i think is a reasonable request


[18-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, like... I personally do strongly dislike slurs, even in jest.


[18-Jul-20 01:28 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
The major issue I have with the modern sociopolitical climate is how vitriolic and divisive it is. Any political discussion seems to be extremely polarizing, and people with differing opinions seem to filled with nothing but hatred for one another.


[18-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I can agree with that.


[18-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's an informational civil war, basicly


[18-Jul-20 01:29 AM] likeafox#8888
The hate isn't always undeserved


[18-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
true, but now everyone hates everything not directly tied t o them.


[18-Jul-20 01:32 AM] likeafox#8888
Yeah, the problem I see with it I'd frame a little differently. I think it's people's inability/unwillingness to understand their opponent's point of view.  Painting an entire side of the political spectrum with the same brush, isn't going to help outreach to maybe pull some of those people over.

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[18-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"My side is nuanced. Your side is a monolith."


[18-Jul-20 01:33 AM] likeafox#8888
And even if you'll never be able to find common ground with someone, it only hurts yourself to operate in an echo chamber


[18-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
you cant effectively fight something you don't understand.


[18-Jul-20 01:35 AM] likeafox#8888
yea


[18-Jul-20 01:36 AM] likeafox#8888
I think it's possible to understand them tho, while also recognizing they have some abhorrent ideas


[18-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uniformity for thee, none for me!


[18-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't like how people think it's okay to not even talk to each other.


[18-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Barhandar in a thread today was saying that talking to Dilarus is paradox of tolerance.


[18-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, Dilarus would say exactly the same.


[18-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
But neither side can suppress the other, and both are clearly in some way intolerant.


[18-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...how does anything there ever get resolved?


[18-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just eternal conflict.


[18-Jul-20 01:43 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Yeah, the unending conflict with absent middle ground scared me away from politics ever since I was able to comprehend it, and I still try to avoid politics as a general rule.


[18-Jul-20 01:44 AM] likeafox#8888
Eh, you can find it if you look hard enough, the extremes just tend to be the most vocal


[18-Jul-20 01:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> when your fandom is comprised of a lot of social outcasts it's not a surprise that "edgy" shit comes into play as often as it does
@byte[]  hey you dropped this, king >>> 👑

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[18-Jul-20 01:46 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Yeah, I'm certain most people aren't as extreme as the pundits who are most vocal about their views, but I'd still rather err on the side of caution.


[18-Jul-20 01:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think the paradox of tolerance is totally valid when it comes to talking about tolerating actual bigoted viewpoints though. Like, it's not "intolerant" to say "I won't tolerate unambiguous actual racism."


[18-Jul-20 01:50 AM] likeafox#8888
yea, moderacy isn't a virtue in and of itself


[18-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's definitely important a lot of the time, but not always. The Golden Mean Fallacy and all.


[18-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Many moderates historically were just less extreme versions of the virulent bigots.


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] likeafox#8888
I didn't know about that one @Dr. Mechano good point ty


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
In US politics, being moderate means believing that nothing is wrong, ever.


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regardless of how wrong things are.


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
MLK complained about moderates, and rightly so:

> I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a serious problem.


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
No particular political position is any more virtuous than any other. All people believe that the political positions they hold advance the end goal of improving life for all, no matter what those political positions are.

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[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] likeafox#8888
No


[18-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
is that a troll? slavery was a political position


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
civil rights was/is a political position


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People who believed in slavery claimed that slavery was "good" for black people.


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They'd use the Bible to justify it, even.


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Political positions aren't created equal.


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] likeafox#8888
Harmonio there can be correct answers to questions


[18-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
voting availability is a political position, there is one party who is trying to make voting as hard as possible, while there is another party that is trying to make voting easier


[18-Jul-20 01:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Moderate: "Maybe make voting just *kind of* inaccessible."

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[18-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/OttawaCitizen/status/1284085860313563139

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[18-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anything, extreme appeal to the middleground is how we ended up with absurd shit like the 3/5ths compromise.


[18-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
so canada has a memorial to a nazi SS division


[18-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
and it got graffiti'd, theyre investigating it as a hate crime


[18-Jul-20 01:56 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Canada likes to dunk on the US for its problems while turning a blind eye to its own.


[18-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I read that it's possible that the pro-Nazi connotation was an accident, but if not, the graffitists didn't do enough.


[18-Jul-20 01:57 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
There are cases in which one position undeniably advances the goal of improving life more than another, and in those cases it is just to move society to that position.
I'm only saying that nobody holds any political beliefs that they do to actively harm society from their perspective.


[18-Jul-20 01:58 AM] likeafox#8888
Also incredibly wrong


[18-Jul-20 01:58 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
So there are people who actually have the political goal of making society *worse*? :roseconfused:


[18-Jul-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are plenty of people who hold the political views that they do because they know it would harm society


[18-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Marches[45]#0674
We've not evolved past the point of being power hungry turds.


[18-Jul-20 01:59 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Maybe I'm just naive then. :scared:


[18-Jul-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sometimes people know and don;t care


[18-Jul-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
spite is a powerful motivator for people


[18-Jul-20 02:01 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
I *am* largely uninformed as a result of sequestering myself away from politics, so it wouldn't be overly surprising.


[18-Jul-20 02:02 AM] likeafox#8888
@RadiantHarmony Not everybody's values are fundamentally compatible.  Some people place no value on the lives of black people. Some people value animal lives equally to humans.  And even if everyone DID have the same values, that's not an argument for treating both sides of every issue as equally valid, because one side is almost certainly going to be more effective at producing results based on those values.


[18-Jul-20 02:03 AM] likeafox#8888
The point of politics aren't the ideas themselves, the point is the consequences of where those ideas lead.


[18-Jul-20 02:05 AM] likeafox#8888
In the end it's not a super important distinction whether for example Trump's actions come from stupidity or malice.


[18-Jul-20 02:06 AM] likeafox#8888
A bad idea with bad consequences is still just that.


[18-Jul-20 02:09 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Yeah, I see your point that a given method can be more or less effective at producing results than another.
I'd imagine anything malicious or having adverse consequences would be able to be corrected by those without malicious intent, but that's probably just more of me being naive considering I couldn't fathom people *having* malicious intent to begin with.


[18-Jul-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
Isn't it important?


[18-Jul-20 02:10 AM] ononim#8141
>That tweet


[18-Jul-20 02:10 AM] ononim#8141
Ukrainian diaspora moment


[18-Jul-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Of course bad things happening is bad regardless, but there's a reason every human culture treats genuine mistakes differently from how we treat actual malice

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[18-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Opponent#3498
```so canada has a memorial to a nazi SS division
and it got graffiti'd, theyre investigating it as a hate crime```


[18-Jul-20 02:22 AM] likeafox#8888
@RadiantHarmony @byte[] Where motivation is important is for instance in terms of informing strategy of how you deal with a person who holds a bad idea.

Those other contexts are not what we're talking about right now. Right now we're talking about whether a political position can be evaluated as good or bad. Good intentions behind a bad idea don't make it a good idea, because it will still have bad consequences.  People need to be willing to make this distinction.


[18-Jul-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
okay, fair enough


[18-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
oh hey, I actually know that one! Judging by ukraininan language on the monument, that's  'Galychina' (or w/e it's spelled). Ukrainian symbol of soviet oppression. Meaning, after 20s and 30ies some ukrainians hated soviets enough to go fight under germans.


[18-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a touchy, complicated subject.


[18-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
whether they deserve a monument... I don't think so, but afaik it was a combat unit, not a police one so no specific atrocities.


[18-Jul-20 02:28 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
@likeafox I don't disagree with that. An idea can be good or bad, and it's always better to use a good idea rather than a bad idea.
It is often exceedingly difficult to determine whether an idea is good or bad ahead of time though, which is where a lot of the difficulty in politics lies.


[18-Jul-20 02:30 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont think its that touchy or complicaed, many countries had alot of resistances and joined larger forces, poland and germany had alot of different alliances and groups who went to fight for many different goals and had different countries support and adoption against what they considered the bigger threat at the time. poland is expectually interesting as both had hated for the nazis more or soviets more depending on mostly location as both did horrible things to that country


[18-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/white-house-cdc-house-testimony-schools/index.html

Inb4 cnn bad while trump fucks the cdc

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[18-Jul-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
CNN hasn't taken quite the nosedive that the WP opinion section has


[18-Jul-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/507845-supreme-court-agrees-to-expedite-order-on-trumps-tax-returns

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Supreme Court agrees to expedite order on Trump's tax returns
The Supreme Court on Friday granted the Manhattan district attorney's request to expedite its recent decision rejecting President Trump's claims of absolute immunity from a subpoena for eight years of tax returns.
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[18-Jul-20 03:03 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow i wonder how the twitter crowd thinks of that


[18-Jul-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/507906-house-judiciary-to-consider-bills-next-week-to-rein-in-trumps-pardon-power

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) announced Friday that the panel will mark up two bills next week intended to rein in President Trump's pardon powers, a move that comes a week after Trump commuted the sentence of his
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[18-Jul-20 03:09 AM] likeafox#8888
@RadiantHarmony It is difficult, and most voters are horribly uninformed. Whether they're right or wrong on any given issue, most people have a high level of confidence in their position, and yet don't have reasonable justification for that confidence (they haven't put in the necessary work investigating/testing their position). I think that may be where your frustration with politics comes from. After all, when you don't know something, the most responsible thing to do is say you don't know, rather than make up an answer.

But it's important to not confuse that for "the question has no correct answer", which is untrue. It's also important to not confuse "most people are unjustified in their political position" with "nobody can be justified in their political position", the latter of which is also untrue.  There IS a path to understanding this complicated world, it's a lot of dedication to truth and inquiry and discussion.


[18-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Frosku#5874
I agree with @RadiantHarmony for about 99% of political ideologies, none is objectively virtuous or malicious.


[18-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Frosku#5874
Obviously exceptions exist.


[18-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Frosku#5874
Characterizing competing ideas as good vs evil is a lot of what's wrong with politics.

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[18-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Frosku#5874
Generally, people have reasons to believe the things that they believe.


[18-Jul-20 03:16 AM] likeafox#8888
If none is objectively good or bad, then you reject objectivity.


[18-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Frosku#5874
No, I reject objective morality as applied to abstract ideas.


[18-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Serenity#9645
im just mostly tired of listening to a speech and then seeing 200 articles saying that x person said the exact opposite by clipping like 8 words out of a long sentence


[18-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Serenity#9645
even if i disagree with whats said it just seems pretty shitty


[18-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like with social positions it's a lot easier to have a plain good/evil dichotomy. It's good to treat people equally and it's bad not to.

With fiscal positions I can understand more subjectivity.


[18-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano I don't know, people can make good arguments for and against a lot of social policies.


[18-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Neither side of the abortion debate believes they're advocating for evil, for example, and that's a debate that's full of charged good vs evil rhetoric.


[18-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Crow#5457
the debate itself isn't evil, but one side of the debate is motivated by evil (control of women)


[18-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
controlling people is evil


[18-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Frosku#5874
If you think pro-life people are motivated by control of women, why are women ~50% pro-life?


[18-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
With abortion, I think it comes from a disagreement of how to define what life and personhood is, sure. That's maybe the one social position I could see subjectivity on, but

I don't think denying gay people equal rights has any good "pro" arguments.


[18-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Crow#5457
the same reason why a woman normalized using "he" as a gender neutral term


[18-Jul-20 03:20 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
@likeafox Of course. I never said any political questions entirely lack correct answers, and I don't believe it's impossible to be justified in a political position.
My initial point was phrased poorly, that most people believe themselves to be justified in their political positions, and that simply holding a certain political position does not cause one to be virtuous. Productive discourse requires open discussion and understanding, or at least not entirely refusing to engage with people who have differing opinions.


[18-Jul-20 03:21 AM] likeafox#8888
Economics isn't like chosing ice cream flavours. It is a moral issue too because it has direct and massive consequences for whole populations, it's easily the difference of 10% of the population living in abject poverty or not.


[18-Jul-20 03:21 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow I definitely believe the pro-choice side is motivated by wanting freedom for women, I do not believe the pro-life side is motivated by controlling women.


[18-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Frosku#5874
And this is the problem with questions where you weigh competing 'good' things. Most of us would agree that people being free is good, and most of us would agree that people having life is good. Which side of the fence we fall on largely comes down to which of those concerns we deem of greater value.


[18-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Pro-life believes fetuses are people from conception generally speaking, which I think is not a sensible position, but I get how it informs their ideology.


[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://newrepublic.com/article/153942/criminalization-womens-bodies-conservative-male-power

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[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean I think if we had an artificial womb which allowed fetuses to live and women not to have to carry them, we would all agree that's preferable to both positions, no?


[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, that'd be fantastic, sure.


[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
> Here’s what it comes down to. Right now in Ohio, there is an a 11-year-old child who was abducted, raped, and made pregnant. It’s easy to see, by any sane moral measure, how a regime that forces a child to carry this pregnancy to full term and give birth is monstrous, heartless, and immoral. And it’s just as clear that a state that threatens to kill that child unless she bears that pregnancy to full term and gives birth is morally equivalent to the rapist—taking away that little girl’s agency, declaring that her pain is unimportant, that she has no right to decide who has access to her body.
> 
> But the crucial connective point, the point that gets shunted to the side in the culture-war rhetoric of abortion outrage, is this: It is equally monstrous to inflict the same punishment on a woman in her thirties who doesn’t want to be a mother just because the condom broke on a Tinder hookup. She, too, deserves bodily autonomy. She should not have to beg for it just because some religious extremists and Viagra-addled Republican lawmakers are frightened of women who fuck freely and without remorse. Seen in this light, forced-birth extremism is the logical extension of rape culture.


[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
*if you're anti-life you support murder, and if you're anti-choice you support slavery* :bigbrain:

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[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Woman can absolve herself of any responsibility for the fetus and go on with her life, fetus can live. Bam


[18-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Frosku#5874
So we agree that some part of the opponent's argument is virtuous. Life is good, freedom is good.


[18-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Frosku#5874
We just don't agree on which, in the case of an unborn child, is more important.


[18-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that there's a lot of republican lawmakers who publicly called out for restrictions on abortions who have personally paid for women they had affairs with to get abortions


[18-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow Politicians being hypocrites? Say it ain't so. 😂

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[18-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/25/a-republican-theme-on-abortions-its-ok-for-me-evil-for-thee

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An illustrious list of Republican men are publicly anti-choice, but privately have supported women in their lives having abortions
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[18-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
that's the point of the argument, that it isn't about life


[18-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's never been about life, it's always been about control of women


[18-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow I'm not actually trying to get into an abortion debate because it's always messy, I'm just trying to say both sides are arguing from a point of virtue. And hypocrisy doesn't actually mean someone doesn't believe in something or that no one believes in it, it just means they're subject to hypocrisy.


[18-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see aborting early in pregnancy not as killing a person, but preventing a person from forming a la birth control.

I would be against aborting *very* late in pregnancy (like a couple weeks before delivery, outside of emergencies) since the fetus is more developed, so it's not a totally black-and-white thing.


[18-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm against abortion on a personal level, legislatively idk, it's a really tough question.


[18-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Frosku#5874
I would prefer tech come along and solve the problem.


[18-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Frosku#5874
But I don't like the bad faith argument that X side just wants to kill babies and Y side just wants to control women.

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[18-Jul-20 03:27 AM] likeafox#8888
> 
> I mean I think if we had an artificial womb which allowed fetuses to live and women not to have to carry them, we would all agree that's preferable to both positions, no?
@Frosku   NO.  Bringing babies into a world where there's no one who wanted to care for them is horrible for the individuals who are uncared for as children, and it's horrible to society who then has to deal with anti-social behaviour as a result of that neglect.


[18-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Serenity#9645
so youll argue that everyone needs to do drugs because a addict tells you not to but still does? im pro-choice cus i value the freedom in it but just bringing up some people who dont hold up to what they preach is pretty low for the people who actually do hold the views that life is sacred


[18-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Frosku#5874
That @Serenity


[18-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Frosku#5874
And legislatively I'm on the fence because I'm very against empowering the government to compel people to do anything.


[18-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing is that pretty much all of europe has way stricter deadlines for abortion than the US, the reason why there's so much leeway in the US is because there's so many delay laws and tactics put into the process of getting an abortion that even if you started a few weeks into the pregnancy, it could take months to actually get one


[18-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Frosku#5874
You forget that about half of Europe is more religious than the US, and their laws are influenced by that.


[18-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
not to mention that in europe, there's actually social safety nets for women having children, in the US they only care about fetuses, once it's actually born, they're on their own


[18-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Frosku#5874
That's such a straw-man argument.


[18-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Crow#5457
how is that a strawman


[18-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
because that's certainly what it seems like


[18-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Frosku#5874
A) There are pro-life socialists, I've met an awful lot of them especially in non-white communities.


[18-Jul-20 03:30 AM] likeafox#8888
The US is plenty religious but has a thing called the bill of rights that's done well at holding up civil liberties for centuries


[18-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Because you're only looking at pro-life arguments from rich white protestants, who are not representative of the global pro-life movement.


[18-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not talking about socialists either, I'm talking about republicans


[18-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
there's certainly pro-life socialists, but they're a much smaller minority on the leftist side than the republican party


[18-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Frosku#5874
In America that's true.


[18-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
that's always been the topic


[18-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the US, the people who argue for paid maternity leave are not the people who argue for abortion restrictions.


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And anti-abortion socialists join the Democratic party.


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Serenity#9645
so all republicans are bastards, just like all cops are bastards, just like all commies are bastards? you generalise a entire group of people your gonna find that your talking about alot less people then you think


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Frosku#5874
In Europe a lot of the pro-life politicians are fairly left-wing. Poland is a great example, most of the right-wingers in Poland are pro-abortion because it's good for worker productivity.


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
This becomes contentious as people call for party unity.


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
I personally think there should be less abortions and way more social safety nets to protect and nurture children


[18-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
but without those social safety nets, making sure abortion is readily available is more important


[18-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean I'd rather see the welfare state completely abolished and replaced with something more effective.


[18-Jul-20 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's pretty easy to do, free birth control and high quality sexual education heavily reduces abortions, but anti-abortion types don't tend to advocate for that


[18-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Frosku#5874
I'd advocate for that @dissociativity.


[18-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
anti-abortion types tend to advocate for abstinence lmao


[18-Jul-20 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
good.
that wasn't an attack on you, more the primarily religious right


[18-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, sex education yes, not 100% on free birth control but definitely affordable birth control.


[18-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Frosku#5874
American drug prices are ridiculous. A lot of the things we pay $100-200 for are $2 somewhere else.


[18-Jul-20 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
teenagers are horny fuckers, you aint gonna stop them from fucking no matter what you do, same with adults, to a less horny degree


[18-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Frosku#5874
100% agree there.


[18-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Serenity#9645
a free goods isnt ever free, your paying for it one way or another


[18-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Frosku#5874
If you can't see the virtue in an argument you disagree with, that's a huge part of the issue in politics especially in the US right now.

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[18-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Frosku#5874
You can still disagree with something without assuming everyone who thinks it is either evil or stupid.

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[18-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
well, you can stop them from fucking by never giving them any free time, that's one reason teen sex rates have been dropping


[18-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

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[18-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Frosku#5874
When we come to issues of equality I largely agree with you, they're pretty good vs evil.


[18-Jul-20 03:39 AM] likeafox#8888
other things though, those are ice cream flavours


[18-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Serenity#9645
speaking of issues of equality what do you think about the "affordable care repeal act" or whatever its named in california?


[18-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Frosku#5874
Fundamentally "all ~~men~~ people are created equal" is something I believe with every fiber of my being.


[18-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure on the details, if it repeals the ACA I'm probably for it. :P


[18-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Frosku#5874
Though that doesn't sound like it'd be very popular in California.


[18-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Serenity#9645
no its to repeal a civil rights law for afforable care to be implimented


[18-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would you want to repeal the ACA?


[18-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Frosku#5874
I'd need to know the details.


[18-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Frosku#5874
@Nebbie Because it's a horrific implementation that doesn't address the root causes of health poverty in America.


[18-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay but removing it doesn't fix anything.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would just lead to the old, worse system without a replacement.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Serenity#9645
California Proposition 16, Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment - Proposition 16 is a constitutional amendment that would repeal Proposition 209, passed in 1996, from the California Constitution. Proposition 209 stated that discrimination and preferential treatment were prohibited in public employment, public education, and public contracting on account of a person's or group's race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin. Therefore, Proposition 209 banned the use of race-based and sex-based affirmative action in California.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Frosku#5874
The old system was arguably better, though still shit.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see how it was in any way arguably better.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It had ridiculous stuff like being denied for pre-existing conditions.


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
“It’s okay for me, evil for thee.”

I’m sorry it’s “Rules for thee but not for me.”


[18-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Frosku#5874
@Nebbie Well, for self-employed people it was a *lot* better.


[18-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then just remove the individual mandate and cheapen the stuff for not purchasing thru employer.


[18-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
A full repeal would be crazy.


[18-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
(the individual mandate is already dead right now btw)


[18-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Frosku#5874
But in general, I'd rather figure out a better way forward because the ACA isn't particularly affordable.


[18-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah I cheered when the individual mandate was repealed, but I don't want to not have healthcare, I want to not have to buy cover I don't actually want.


[18-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Frosku#5874
I want the dirt cheap high deductible plan I had for years before the ACA


[18-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Frosku#5874
And since I receive no subsidy, I don't think the govt should be getting in the way of a negotiation between me and my insurance provider.


[18-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Make drug advertizing illegal. Actually punish companies trying to bribe doctors to push drugs. Make medicare actually leverage its power over pricing. Make medicare and medicaid cover anyone who doesn't want to actually go out and buy insurance.


[18-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Frosku#5874
I agree with most of that except for illegalizing drug advertizing, that would probably violate the 1st amendment.


[18-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Serenity#9645
they want to repeal this-  Proposition 209 stated that discrimination and preferential treatment were prohibited in public employment, public education, and public contracting on account of a person's or group's race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.
to just put in ACA? theres alot you can do with removing all that


[18-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that violates the 1st amendment, then a whole lot of other shit does too.


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Frosku#5874
That sounds like they're trying to put in affirmative action @Serenity, which I'm very against


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like false advertizing laws, and a lot of limits on campaigning.


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure you can illegalize paying money to make people promote certain types of things.


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Serenity#9645
thats what the act is called, repeal discriminations laws to put in ACA


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing it for free? If a TV station so chose, it could push a drug without being paid for it, of course, that'd be 1st amendment.


[18-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the money is the crux of things.


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Frosku#5874
@Nebbie I don't fundamentally agree with the idea that paying for a bigger audience is wrong.


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relatedly Citizens United was the dumbest shit and makes no sense with how money is treated by like any other law.


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about drug advertizing.


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Frosku#5874
Citizens United was the right decision


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's not what's at issue


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Frosku#5874
Advertizing in general is paying for a bigger audience. That's literally the definition of advertizing.


[18-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Citizens United said money is speech


[18-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if money is speech, then bribery is a right


[18-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Frosku#5874
If I can legally say "My drug is awesome" then I can also legally pay someone else to say it louder.


[18-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being able to pay someone to say anything you can say is not a good idea.


[18-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bribery isn't speech


[18-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Frosku#5874
But that's literally publishing?


[18-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Serenity#9645
but in reality it just removes discrimination laws, meaning segregation could be implimented because you can now discriminate with a 209 repeal or laws could be made just in favor of one group's race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.


[18-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Frosku#5874
@Serenity That's what they want, to let people into college with lower SATs based on race. It's disgusting.


[18-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ability to hav others publish anything you could say raises issues.


[18-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You end up with money controlling like, everything.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Frosku#5874
@Nebbie If I give you $1000 will you say Lightning Dust is best pony?


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Serenity#9645
i know thats what ACA is but it could be worse, it is to repeal antidiscrimination law in general


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Personally, no, but a lot of people would take that offer.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not good when it's something a lot less harmless.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, which is their right. They are trading their audience for my funds.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's wrong with drug advertising that's honest?


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drug companies pay doctors to push drugs that actually kill people.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Serenity#9645
that is actually illegal


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Corporations should get utterly demolished.


[18-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it's not.


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
We've seen this time and time again.


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm against paying doctors to push drugs on ethics grounds -- the doctor is compromised between doing what's best for their patient and doing what's best for their wallet, I'm not against paying the TV station to say things.


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to fight tooth and nail to get literally bribing doctors to be considered bad.


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Frosku#5874
The TV station has no duty of care to its audience.


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Serenity#9645
how so FDA and the many many laws in the medical field dont have a single law saying you can perscribe a drug that is insane to a paitent that might kill them and have no effect?


[18-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So your right ends with who yo upay?


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
Your right is infinite.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Risperdal, Serenity.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
A drug with no proven efficacy that also gave little boys boobs.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Johnson and Johnsone paid assloads to bribe doctors


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Serenity#9645
isnt he in a lawsuit right now?


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean the issue with risperdal is an FDA issue, not an advertizing issue. The FDA isn't fit for purpose.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the time in court, J&J wins.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's in multiple lawsuits.


[18-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't just the FDA


[18-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
J&J paid doctors to use the drug off-label


[18-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in for things the FDA didn't say it could be used for.


[18-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's being fought in several cases in civil court.


[18-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of which J&J is winning because of technicalities.


[18-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
J&J *also* paid the FDA to add things to the label.


[18-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
That's part of why I don't approve of pharma companies being able to pay doctors commissions.


[18-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And to ignore the science on its efficacy and risks.


[18-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
It interferes with the duty of care, but that duty of care doesn't apply to a TV station.


[18-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a TV station should be able to lie to you about drugs?


[18-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
If it did, pretty much the entire media would need to be shut down for the shit they've lied about or covered up, to be honest.


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Frosku#5874
There are already laws against false advertizing and fraud.


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well they're not being fukking enforced.


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drug companies are making millions and they own the people who write the rules.


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not just the FDA


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The senators.


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Frosku#5874
So why do you think more laws written by the people they own are the answer?


[18-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, there's a clause where Medicare can't buy drugs from companies that were found guilty of felonies


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
So when J&J was caught with certain illegal activity that was a felony in that whole scandal


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Frosku#5874
That seems like a dumb clause to be honest. It could end up costing lives.


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
the gov't instead charged them with a misdemeanor


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's supposed to make there be an actual penalty to this shit


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a company commits a felony, it should not be allowed to sell the gov't drugs


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
**the gov't should take over its factories and make the drug themselves** I think


[18-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that's something the US doesn't want to do.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Frosku#5874
So the company just creates a shell company, licenses the drug to the shell company, and then sells those drugs to the govt?


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure that'd still be illegal.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, J&J was given lighter prosecution to avoid the fallout.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Frosku#5874
It could sell the drug to the shell company, there would be ways around it.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The rules are meaningless if they aren't enforced.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't think nationalizing R&D and pharma is a good idea, for countless reasons.


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Serenity#9645
have you ever seen strictly government run healthcare, cus ive been in it for 3 years for something people have told me takes them a few weeks to get done


[18-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
R&D **is** nationalized tho


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
And yes, that's an argument against more laws, when we don't even enforce the ones we have on the books.


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most prescription drugs come directly from gov't-subsidized funding


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
then big pharma just builds factories and patents them.


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
R&D is already heavily subsidized


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
And that's one of the root causes of healthcare poverty which the ACA doesn't address, one of *many*.


[18-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Crow#5457
and even though it's heavily subsidized, pharmaceutical companies still charge absurd amounts of money for new treatments or technologies


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
If you want to make a serious dent in the cost of healthcare, there's a few things you can do. Very few of them involve more government spending.


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
well, one thing is price regulation, stuff like profit margin caps


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
1. Legalize importing drugs across the border.


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Medicare being able to leverage its pricing power.


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Right now, it's not allowed to negotiate drug prices.


[18-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
Sure, and then the company splits into 20 companies each of which is below the profit margin cap.


[18-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Other countries do this with their public healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm all for Medicare being able to negotiate drug prices tbh, at least until we abolish Medicare.


[18-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abolish in favor of what?


[18-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Frosku#5874
In favor of fixing the root causes of why people can't afford healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
So what, health insurance that costs $500 a year, if you're poor you just die?


[18-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or are you gonna giv people UBI?


[18-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Of all the welfare proposals, I find UBI the least offensive.


[18-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Giv everyone universal basic *healthcare*, not just income.


[18-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We don't talk about paying to put the fire out in your house.


[18-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
1. Insane pricing that has no correlation with cost of provision whatsoever;
2. Complete lack of competition which is made worse by government intervention;
3. Lack of transparency in pricing.


[18-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't talk about paying for being saved from death.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Private fire service is quite common in the US, probably a bad example. :P We do pay for food, shelter, clothing, all of which we would potentially die without.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those should all be provided.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav a ridiculous amount of homeless people.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's seriously hurting us.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Rather more rapidly than we would die without health insurance.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't see that in any way as an argument for privatization of healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Serenity#9645
if you just nationalise everything you really become a number and not a paying customer, like i said 3 years in the system, still no results and still no MRI. id much rather pay a yearly price with maybe a few thousand out of pocket to actually be fixed


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
People should be able to liv regardless of income.


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
And liv healthily.


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Frosku#5874
It's a great argument for privatization of healthcare, because all of those things cost a lot less than they did 100-200 years ago.


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want a way to pay to jump beyond the basics, sure.


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Luxury food and luxury healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that should be *extra*.


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
How are you measuring that cost?


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
What's luxury healthcare? Like I get a massage after my lumbar puncture?


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
As a percentage of median income, we spend less on essentials than at any time in the history of man.


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like new experimental procedures, plastic surgery, and similar.


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sounds a bit dubious.


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
I assume you mean elective plastic surgery, not like reconstruction after an accident?


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially considering the 1950s are part of history.


[18-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anything to stay healthy should be free.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Frosku#5874
I completely disagree, but then I don't come at this from the idea that spending money is somehow offensive or bad.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
100% agreed. In America, it's a major problem that people just *don't* go to the doctor or get screened as often as they should because they simply cannot afford to.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what it's about.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being poor shouldn't mean people just die sometimes when they otherwise wouldn't.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So people die of totally preventable causes here, that they wouldn't in other developed countries.


[18-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is inhumane to say "that guy hit by a bus should just be denied the operation once he's stable"


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
No, it shouldn't, so we could put in place a 'guardrail' for the poor whilst allowing the market to work for the majority of people as it always has.


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly to saddle with him debt his whole life and cause a downward spiral.


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
UBI would be that guardrail


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
UBI wouldn't work if the guy got hit by too many buses in a year.


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd run out of money.


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Healthcare itself has to be free.


[18-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I am for UBI, yeah. But as a separate thing from universal healthcare. I think we should have both.


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Frosku#5874
His deductible is capped for the year


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
UBI can take care of food and some other things sanely.


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no copays?


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Copays are incredibly shitty, I'd say drop them entirely)


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Serenity#9645
free is never free you could be paying 40% tax on everything and still not get care XD


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Serenity#9645
like oh idk me


[18-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our healthcare is twice as expensive as similar countries.


[18-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
We could easily provide care for everyone.


[18-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
That's true


[18-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
Our healthcare is stupidly expensive, and the ACA only exacerbated that.


[18-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
Hiding a cost in taxes doesn't make the cost go away


[18-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are several reasons for the expense


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But an important thing to consider is that a major reason is medicare/medicaid/the VA are inefficient by not covering everyone.


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
See, of what we pay that's ridiculous, half (the amount most other countries pay total) is public


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
the other half is private


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
So why is the NHS inefficient?


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What? I'm talking about the US


[18-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
And I'm saying


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
If covering everyone makes it efficient, why is the NHS so glaringly dreadful?


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The major inefficiency in US public healthcare is that it's fragmented and has tons of gotcha conditions, along with not being able to negotiate prices.


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
(Keep in mind, the NHS is essentially a medicare-for-all plan)


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NHS is a lot more efficient than US public healthcare


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NHS spends the same amount of money per capita but gets like 5x the results.


[18-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
It has worse outcomes on almost everything.


[18-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
With the exception of obesity-related illnesses, which I would pose is because there is a lot more obesity in the US.


[18-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's still covering a lot more people per amount of money.


[18-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Serenity#9645
nationaliseing makes it inefficent, you get contracts for products to the government that costs 20x the price that you get it in the store, and that 20x gets put on the people, then all the government laws and stuff making you sit on your ass for years not getting what you need


[18-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
And doing a decent job.


[18-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
The NHS pays $15 for a bandaid, you pay $0.20 for the same bandaid.


[18-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The inefficiency I'm talking about in the US public healthcare compared to the NHS is that by splitting up into multiple different plans, there's a lot of increased overhead.


[18-Jul-20 04:13 AM] likeafox#8888
Universal healthcare would be more cost effective than any privatized healthcare.  A monolithic private healthcare industry is a monopoly, with price gouging effects we already see in some sectors of the pharma industry. A segmented private healthcare industry is very inefficient and much of the bloating of healthcare costs we currently see in the US are caused by bureaucratic inefficiencies of different providers needing to communicate with each other. To see a specialist you are probably dealing with 3 different businesses (your GP, your insurance, and your referral), all which need their own administration.


[18-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
I've lived in both countries, the NHS is very rarely described as efficient. In fact the most overwhelmingly positive response is that it's free.


[18-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Serenity#9645
wanna talk us? the us army  pays 3000 for a 30$ stepladder you can buy at home depot and their under contract so they can only buy that 3000 one


[18-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
Universal and private healthcare aren't mutually exclusive. The Netherlands, which frequently ranks #1 for healthcare, has universal and largely privatized healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
Singapore does too, and usually ranks #2.


[18-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drug-prices-nhs-wastes-30m-a-year-paying-too-much-for-unlicensed-drugs-kv9kr5m8p

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Drug prices: NHS wastes £30m a year paying too much for unlicensed ...
The NHS is spending as much as £30 million a year paying high prices for unlicensed medicines that are available cheaply elsewhere. The health service is routinely overpaying for bespoke...
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[18-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This seems to indicate that the actual problem is to do with prescriptions.


[18-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
The issues are multifaceted, but all largely stem from the fact that the NHS has literally no incentive to be efficient due to being a monopoly.


[18-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Drugs become harder to obtain and the free market does its thing (massively escalate prices because it can)


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Serenity#9645
oh and those tool box for fixing aircraft what i own all the tools in that cost me 300 cost them 60000


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's more than that


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
There's no free market in an industry without competition. A lot of the things the NHS buys at those rates, you can buy much cheaper.


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The businesses charging so much more than they need to do are being essentially unregulated, unlike the more common pharma companies.


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Aspirin costs the NHS something like 100x what it costs you at the local pharmacist.


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the article is that you technically *can't* buy them cheaper


[18-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
you can buy alternatives cheaper


[18-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
but alternatives are only so much of an option


[18-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
But the NHS wont buy the alternatives.


[18-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
What's needed here is tighter pricing regulation and a bit of oversight on what's being bought.


[18-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Not really, what's needed more than anything is transparency on pricing and competition. And banning vendor lock in.


[18-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Serenity#9645
@Frosku you should look at us military hospitals, its completely government owned and operated. look at its sucess rate and how much ibprophon costs per tablet seince "it wont be like the NHS, and be way more efficent"


[18-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
Oh yes, the VA, the bastion of good healthcare.


[18-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-42063274

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NHS 'overcharged by millions for key drug'
A 6,000% price rise in an essential thyroid drug led the NHS to overpay, the UK competition body says.
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[18-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
Here's one we would probably all agree on: ban insurance companies from mandating you use certain hospitals.


[18-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
This clearly states the problem is regulatory.


[18-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a loophole that allows companies to overcharge in specific circumstances.


[18-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Companies abuse this.


[18-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Crazy profits are being made despite competition and despite people being able to see the prices.


[18-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Frosku#5874
You're approaching that totally wrong though, if there's a loophole, the government is the abusive party.


[18-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it can close the loophole.


[18-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Force the prices down with the power of law.


[18-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
The company is playing within the rules, the rules are wrong. No sane person or company is going to wilfully forego money for no good reason.


[18-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Serenity#9645
then no one will sell drugs to your government lol


[18-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
(The loophole is once the patents expire, the company is no longer price-capped on what it sells)


[18-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and can then raise the price 60-fold on a whim to take advantage of old prescriptions still running before people notice)


[18-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i as the government will only accept a contract for 10c a pill, ok then bye ill just sell it to the NHS and not waste time with you


[18-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The companies do sell to the NHS when price-capped.


[18-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
And to private insurers, who will get more customers because they can offer better drugs (that's how it works in the UK)


[18-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
Uh... no. Actually no, a lot of drugs are not available on the NHS beause the NHS is not willing to pay for them.


[18-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
Even MHRA (UK version of FDA) approved drugs


[18-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Frosku#5874
Because if you want to get your drug into the NHS, one of the approving bodies you have to go through is NICE, and one of the factors they consider is price.


[18-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Frosku#5874
There are known working drugs which, in the UK, you can *only* get on private cover.


[18-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The article is about drugs the NHS *is* buying.


[18-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is it keeps buying them after prices skyrokket.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that appears to be the main way the NHS is wasting money.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Frosku#5874
The answer here largely lies in patent reform, tbh.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Serenity#9645
then they say no we wont buy it then add another to the list of drugs you wont get


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that when prices skyrokket is when the drugs go generic.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
After patents expire.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patent reform would do nothing.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Frosku#5874
Expire the patent as soon as the drug makes a few hundred percent profit.


[18-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a matter of pricing regulation primarily.


[18-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
That gives companies a choice between keeping their IP for longer with a sane price and ramming up ridiculous prices but only for a flash in time.


[18-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Serenity#9645
you want care for all but then you want to restrict the drugs that could maybe help due to a price celling


[18-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/scandal-of-cancer-drugs-kept-from-dying-victims-1921426.html
Welcome to Medicare-for-all, where you get to die for someone else's ideology.

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Scandal of cancer drugs kept from dying victims
Watchdog deems some treatments for rare variants are 'too expensive'


[18-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3371176/NHS-won-t-pay-60-000-miracle-cancer-drug-insurance-giants-Aviva-Axa-Bupa-Vitality-WPA-will.html

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Insurers that will pay for miracle cancer drug Nivolumab revealed
A revolutionary cancer medicine called Nivolumab may not be made available in England and Wales because it is deemed too expensive, but some insurers have committed to pay.
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[18-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Frosku#5874
So everyone who actually makes a decent income in the UK doesn't use the NHS for treating chronic illness, this is known to pretty much any professional.


[18-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Single-payer healthcare isn't just a bad model because it's woefully inefficient, it's a bad model because it kills people.

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[18-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure a lot more per capita die in the US from the lakk of such tho.


[18-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Serenity#9645
the problem just isnt that easy, you dont pay enough you dont get it, and then new drugs are not made with that money. but if its the government paying for it really means your paying for it and the government is alot more willing to give away your money then you and maybe to causes you are completely against but under the guise of we have free healthcare thats why its so expencive you dont have to worry about your health, well doing everything they can to not help you when you actually need to use it cus they dont want to spend the money to power a damn mri mashine they own in 3 years of trying and getting worse!


[18-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
The US model is legitimately worse than the NHS model, especially post-ACA but it was worse before.


[18-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
But there are better models than both which are completely lost in discussion.


[18-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like Sweden's?


[18-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
Singapore's is a good starting point.


[18-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
First of all, move day to day care outside of insurance and use insurance purely to cover expensive things.


[18-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/countries-with-the-most-well-developed-public-health-care-system


[18-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
That will make insurance much cheaper.


[18-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems like Sweden is better than both.


[18-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Canada #1, interesting.


[18-Jul-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
Day to day care is one of the most important things for insurance to cover because it keeps small problems from escalating into huge ones


[18-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't trust rankings without the data, but this looks like it's a survey measuring perception, not an actual data-driven study.


[18-Jul-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
And it disproportionately affects low income individuals too, who are more likely to skip visiting a doctor because they have to miss work & pay for the visit for a problem that could kill them for ignoring


[18-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] It's one of the worst things for insurance to cover because it drives up the cost of insurance, which means more people are underinsured or have deductibles they can't pay (which also results in skipping doctors).


[18-Jul-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
You know what drives up the cost of insurance too? Competition


[18-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Frosku#5874
The whole point of insurance is risk-pooling. A bunch of us get together, throw money in a pot, and when something bad happens to one of us, we have money to spend.


[18-Jul-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Why is single payer so able to control costs in countries that use it? Because it pools money from the _entire population_ and has massive bargaining powers


[18-Jul-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
Insurance companies in the US only have splinters of populations to work with


[18-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Frosku#5874
Because it denies or rations life-saving treatment.


[18-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Monopolies are not efficient. Monopolies have never been efficient or we would have no need for anti-trust laws.


[18-Jul-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
And insurance is one of those things you might have known from economics classes as a ... natural monopoly, eh?


[18-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Insurance isn't a natural monopoly because all insurance packages don't provide the same service.


[18-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
And all people don't *want* the same service.


[18-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
A really obvious example: the vast majority of cis gay people do not need their coverage to provide birth control.


[18-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
And condoms are cheap enough that pretty much no one gets them on insurance, so that's out.


[18-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Frosku#5874
Then there are lifestyle factors, if you're a smoker or drinker, you have a very different risk profile from a non-smoker or drinker.


[18-Jul-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
my power company doesn't provide my home with three phase electricity either, but I still get a service from them that they are uniquely suited to offer to me but not to a large building that needs 3P because they maintain all the infrastructure for it and duplication of it would result in a massive degradation of service due to... the laws of physics


[18-Jul-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
is my power company therefore not a natural monopoly?


[18-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
And you only have one power company?


[18-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
Well no, because typically the generation of energy is not a monopoly even if the grid is.


[18-Jul-20 04:42 AM] byte[]#2610
your definitions are uselessly inflexible and brittle, they are unworkable in any sort of practical application


[18-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
How is it inflexible to say that you might want to pay a premium for green energy, or to pay a lower rate for shale-based energy?


[18-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
Or that you might have a usage pattern which your provider does not account for, which could make your energy cheaper?


[18-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
There's plenty of space in that market for competition.


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
because they own the infrastructure needed to deliver whatever service is being offered to me


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Without competition, there is no incentive for your energy company to offer these alternatives. You can pay what they want you to pay, and take what they want you to take, or you can have no power.


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
that infrastructure is the relevant part of this


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
OK, so we're talking specifically about the delivery grid?


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
not the specific services offered to each customer


[18-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, the delivery grid, along with roads etc are natural monopolies. Healthcare isn't.


[18-Jul-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
health insurance companies in this analogy form bad duplicate copies of this sort of infrastructure


[18-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Frosku#5874
Typically when you have a natural monopoly, you don't end up with duplication because it's in no one's interests.


[18-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Frosku#5874
Health insurance companies largely do not own infrastructure. They're financial companies, they attempt to calculate and manage risk.


[18-Jul-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
they may offer different services to different individuals, but they need to be packaged together without duplication for the real benefit of risk pooling to work


[18-Jul-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
I feel like I'm wasting my time arguing with you so I'm just going to leave


[18-Jul-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
Nebbie, you're in charge


[18-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Frosku#5874
The insurer is only one part of the healthcare picture, though. I don't necessarily agree with your premise that risk management is a natural monopoly, but the insurers aren't the only ones taking a slice of the pie. All they do is pool risk.


[18-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Frosku#5874
They fundamentally have more in common with casinos than with power companies, so yeah I think that analogy just falls flat.


[18-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Frosku#5874
I feel like the argument you're trying to make is essentially that a risk pool with more people will be more efficient, which seems right until you consider that it has less reasons to find efficiencies.


[18-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Frosku#5874
If I own 100% of any market, you are essentially at my service if you need that product or service. I can charge you, largely, whatever I want to, and provide a mediocre service.


[18-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Frosku#5874
Even easier when you hide that price in taxation.


[18-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
the collective bargaining power of a nation's entire population will drown any attempts to overcharge


[18-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Crow#5457
every single problem you've brought up can be solved by universal healthcare


[18-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Crow#5457
and if you try to say that it'll stifle innovation or drive insurance companies out of business, the government will (and already does) subsidize innovation for private companies, the money will just be redirected to those with the will to press on


[18-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Frosku#5874
> the collective bargaining power of a nation's entire population will drown any attempts to overcharge
Except that this isnt true in practice. It doesn't require an attempt to overcharge, it just requires inefficiency which results in overcharging.


[18-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
... isn't true in practice? what practice? it's never been done in the US


[18-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
and you keep using the NHS as an example, which is hardly fair because the conservative party in the UK has been defunding the NHS


[18-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Crow#5457
and that makes it sound like you're saying that companies will forever be able to create inefficiencies so they can justify overcharging


[18-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Crow#5457
when any motivated government would put a stop to that very quickly


[18-Jul-20 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[18-Jul-20 05:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[18-Jul-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, even seeing people kiss in public makes me sick. Get a freaking room.


[18-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah just chill out


[18-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And that's coming from someone who would love to have sex publically in front of a whole bunch of people


[18-Jul-20 05:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I don't mind people kissing in public. I mind people that feel the need to stand on narrow footpaths in a way that blocks them off. have your conversations somewhere not in my way. 
You can fuck the shit out of each other in public I don't care. just don't get in my way.


[18-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Several people


[18-Jul-20 05:55 AM] likeafox#8888
I'm friends with dozens of queer people and nobody I know is advocating for such a thing


[18-Jul-20 05:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Idk. I find displays of public intimacy to be rather gross and obnoxious.


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Also yeah that's not a thing


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
WHAT IF WE FUCKED IN FRONT OF THE

THE ENTIRETY OF THE US CONGRESS

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[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
Why do I get the feeling that this is a complete nonissue expressed by a couple people on twitter, which was then exacerbated by a reporter who wanted to start an internet flamewar


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do it in the park.


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, it doesn't do queer people any good.
Just one rando trying to speak for the whole movement.


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
God damn media these days is completely fucked


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do it polygamously.


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wonder if McConnell would be aroused


[18-Jul-20 05:56 AM] likeafox#8888
@byte[] pretty much


[18-Jul-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Aka bullshit news


[18-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homophobia will be over when Dad can grill while kissing Dad 2: Grill Boogaloo.


[18-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hmmmm, I guess I could've read the citation.
That's what I get for newsposting at midnight.


[18-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
**DOUBLE THE GRILLING**


[18-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
:glowing_eyes:


[18-Jul-20 05:58 AM] likeafox#8888
Haha it's ok @>That Guy


[18-Jul-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/UL67FQ_uGBg

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Real Time with Bill Maher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL67FQ_uGBg
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[18-Jul-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@>That Guy @likeafox


[18-Jul-20 06:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Would you have sex with your dream partner on the condition that Donald Trump would be watching and making weird noises all along?


[18-Jul-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
No.
I'm not that horny.


[18-Jul-20 06:01 AM] jimm#1439
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875758

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The evidence which suggests that Covid-19 is not a naturally evolved virus [pdf]
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[18-Jul-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Bill makes a good point, btw.


[18-Jul-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
He has a lot of boomer moments


[18-Jul-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
but this new rule segment is on point


[18-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
I like how he tries to call out Democrats for being politically-selfdestructive morons.


[18-Jul-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
He does that all the time


[18-Jul-20 06:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah.


[18-Jul-20 06:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's kind of his thing.


[18-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't really make a good argument for it being artificial.


[18-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point of the Wuhan lab is that coronaviruses are common there, and there was a threat of hybridization of viruses creating a really problematic one there. Basically, it's like blaming the monitoring station for letting loose what it monitors that exists normally nearby.


[18-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes something could've escaped containment, but those facilities are explicitly designed to minimize that. It's more likely that some samples in the area showed something similar, so research was done, and then before research on stopping such could progress much, it already became a problem.


[18-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/international-health-policy-center/countries/norway

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Norway | Commonwealth Fund


[18-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
> Health expenditures represented 10.5 percent of GDP in 2016, or NOK 68,065 (USD 6,647) per person, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Public sources account for most health expenditures in Norway, at 85 percent.


[18-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2020/04/why-are-americans-paying-more-for-healthcare

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Why Are Americans Paying More for Healthcare?
High healthcare spending is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if it leads to better health outcomes. However, that is not the case in the United States.
https://www.pgpf.org/sites/default/files/why-are-americans-paying-more-for-healthcare-blog-hero.jpg


[18-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Crow#5457
> The United States has one of the highest costs of healthcare in the world. In 2018, the United States spent about $3.6 trillion on healthcare, which averages to about $11,000 per person. Relative to the size of the economy, healthcare costs have increased over the past few decades, from 5 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) in 1960 to 18 percent in 2018.


[18-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Xenxc#4012
>donald trump watches me have sex with donald trump
weird man


[18-Jul-20 06:56 AM] jlun2#8758
is there any way to make americans live healthier lives


[18-Jul-20 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
No


[18-Jul-20 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610
We're fucked


[18-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
a slightly less memey political quiz http://www.politiscales.net/

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Welcome to the PolitiScale, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
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[18-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
this is what I got like 2 years ago <http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?m0=74&m1=5&b1=5&b0=69&t0=45&t1=24&s1=10&s0=67&p0=57&p1=19&j1=21&j0=48&e1=43&e0=33&c0=55&c1=21&femi=48&prag=100>


[18-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Crow#5457
before someone comes in here and starts screaming at me for supposedly being a communist, <http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/help/>


[18-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
I just got this <http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/results/?p0=69&p1=10&b0=71&b1=10&j1=5&j0=74&c0=64&c1=10&e1=43&e0=36&vega=67&femi=62&s0=81&m1=5&m0=81&t1=40&t0=31&prag=100&anar=67>


[18-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
not really a huge difference other than a much larger rehabilitative justice bar


[18-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
and the veganism badge


[18-Jul-20 07:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> before someone comes in here and starts screaming at me for supposedly being a communist
fine, ill do it
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[18-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Crow#5457
but that's someone screaming IN communism


[18-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
which is different from someone screaming at me for being a communist


[18-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
I feel I shouldn't have gotten that veganism badge in the second one


[18-Jul-20 07:23 AM] wren#0114
who shaved her horn?


[18-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
no one


[18-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
>>25613


[18-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[18-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
it's a reference to this bootleg


[18-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's a crop of this image >>2083037


[18-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[18-Jul-20 07:29 AM] wren#0114
nice


[18-Jul-20 07:30 AM] wren#0114
are horn socks a thing yet?


[18-Jul-20 07:30 AM] illumnious#7938

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[18-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Suck it, Donny


[18-Jul-20 11:27 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[18-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573205663853969434/733551162292436992/video0.mp4

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[18-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Crow#5457
aNd ThIs Is ExTrEmElY dAnGeRoUs To OuR dEmOcRaCy


[18-Jul-20 01:32 PM] Crow#5457
this isn't political, post it in #memes-and-shitposts


[18-Jul-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/476718-civil-rights-legend-rep-john-lewis-dies

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Civil rights legend Rep. John Lewis dies
Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), the renowned civil rights leader who served as a symbol of the movement throughout his more than three decades in Congress, died Friday at the age of 80.
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[18-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3LphA-SW4

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Mexico Makes Software & Hardware Modification Illegal (including Li...
The Mexican government has recently passed a law that would make hardware and software modifications of your electronic devices illegal.  This means certain activities like installing a non oem OS to your PC (Linux & bsd to a store bought computer, illegal.  Running a modified...
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[18-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That video if anything shows the opposite; that local reporters are just reading the national corporate script verbatim.

Which itself isn't a great thing, but it's not really "the reporters being personally biased."


[18-Jul-20 02:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/russian-constitution-change-ends-hopes-gay-marriage-n1233639

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Russian constitution change ends hopes for gay marriage
Hopes vanished on July 1, when voters backed a slate of constitutional amendments, one of them stating marriage is only between a man and a woman.
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[18-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6j2vOFfA1I

TL;DR:  Doing absolutely nothing wouldve been more effective against covid19 than what we did/are doing.  People are incredibly stupid.  Masks dont work the way you think they do or make it worse depending on how you wear them

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How the World Ended
Link to script of this video: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Tck_4Lk4gvYV2K3N6JSMwZh3MqqPHvdNHRsft8ibsA/edit

Link to sources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z5pFDjXZLAL1yeqw1vK9yUccEIAS6NvEE_G-aJeAsuE/edit

1:12 - China's early response
3:02 - World Health Organiza...
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[18-Jul-20 03:02 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and there has never been a coronavirus vaccine in human history and may never will.


[18-Jul-20 03:03 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
oh and death rates are indeed going down.  For 10 weeks straight.  Cuomo is a PoS

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[18-Jul-20 03:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How could you say something so brave yet so buttfuckingly stupid


[18-Jul-20 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/817ea7636a27a2c7c594e475e283ab31

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Fair housing groups slam Trump's suburban racial rhetoric
Washington (AP) — President Donald Trump’s pledge to roll back an Obama-era regulation designed to eliminate racial disparities in the suburbs is drawing harsh criticism from fair housing...
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[18-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
@Hearth Flare https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3561560 https://apnews.com/e4d5259bfc6c74fcb090d885737c55a6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2020/04/02/coronavirus-death-rate-is-increasing-in-the-usthese-are-the-worst-hit-states/
> Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: Evidence from the 1918 Flu

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First COVID-19 vaccine tested in US poised for final testing
The first COVID-19 vaccine tested in the U.S. revved up people’s immune systems just the way scientists had hoped, researchers reported Tuesday -- as the shots are poised to begin key final...
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Coronavirus Death Rate Is Increasing In The U.S. - These Are The Wo...
In the past couple of weeks, we’ve seen the coronavirus related death rate nearly doubled. Here we dig into which states are the hardest hit and why we may be seeing the recent uptick.
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[18-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
I'm a particular fan of the third article because of the sarcastic arrows they put on the death rate graph


[18-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/neiman-marcus-bankrupycy-executive-pay-bonuses/

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Neiman Marcus executives seek $10 million in bonuses during bankruptcy
Bankruptcy court judge in Texas must approve compensation plan that gives CEO Geoffroy van Raemdonck $6 million.
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[18-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/jesus-statue-beheaded-miami-area-catholic-church/MXI55LTCRJHBFHWARNS4YHTWVY/

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Jesus statue beheaded at Miami-area Catholic church
A statue of Jesus Christ that has been a fixture at a Miami-area church for decades was beheaded, parish officials said.
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[18-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
> Neiman Marcus must ask a judge to approve its plan because the move violates a 2005 Bankruptcy Reform Act rule that bans companies from paying executives bonuses while in bankruptcy. The compensation plan now goes before Judge David Jones in the Southern District of Texas in Houston.


[18-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
what a weak law


[18-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Crow#5457
if you can just go to a judge and ask for it to be approved


[18-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
the video did say that the vaccines being rushed and might have alot of problems.  so i dunno.  if it does happen that would make it the fastest vaccine ever created by a  alrge margine and the 1st covid vaccine


[18-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
a major event in modern medical history


[18-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈    i just posted a video i found.  watch it and make your own conclusions.  i dont agree with it all.  i never said i agreed with the tldr i posted


[18-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
imo people should keep things open but wear masks and keep 6 feet apart at all times


[18-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and as an essential worker it pissed me off that non essential stores closed.  it basically concentrated the virus to us.  people were constantly coming into our store because they had nothing better to do.  which put me at greater risk than if we just kept all the places open now open in april and may too with the same protacal as the supermarket i work at.


[18-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
also walmart got to stay open but best buy and kohls had to close?  walmart also sells clothing and games.  they profited immensely off of the virus


[18-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i still strongly support the use of social distancing and think the places letting everyone crowd together are stupid


[18-Jul-20 04:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[18-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
sorry 
:<


[18-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
was alot


[18-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/507922-aclu-files-lawsuit-over-federal-agents-in-portland

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ACLU files lawsuit over federal agents in Portland
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday filed a lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. Marshals Service after they deployed agents to quell demonstrations in Portland, Ore.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/portlandarrest_081819getty.jpg


[18-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The fuck is that helmet the girl is wearing


[18-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
im actually curious as i havent been able to find info on it.  How do we know when we are in a second wave of covid-19?  What's the difference between a 1st and 2nd wave?


[18-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
the US turned it into a half-pipe


[18-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/867/747/6f4.jpg

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[18-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
like arent we already in the second wave?


[18-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
that second bump you see after the peak on the EU is what the second wave is supposed to look like


[18-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i guess second wave doesnt exist here lol.  everyday is a wave XD


[18-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i do reccommend watching that video i posted tho.  it does have me curious and now im conflicted on my feelings about the virus and the situation


[18-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM
i still hate the WHO tho.  XD

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A senior WHO official has raised hackles in Taiwan by appearing to dodge questions about Taiwan''s exclusion from the world health body. During an interview via video chat with a Hong Kong media outlet, Bruce Aylward, a Canadian epidemiologist, remained silent for about ten se...
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[18-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
removing us from this thing is the only good thing Trump has done lol


[18-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/not-all-ppp-loans-need-be-verified-suggests-treasury-secretary-n1234233

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Not all PPP loans need to be verified, suggests Treasury Secretary ...
The PPP has come under criticism after wealthy and larger companies secured loans under the program, which was billed as relief for small businesses.
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[18-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
socialism, but only for businesses


[18-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
@Lexi Fyrestar, can you not make baseless discriminatory claims


[18-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
that was more than obvious


[18-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
and it isnt discriminatory, but i guess that depends on what side u r


[18-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
u can be for sure it wasnt the janitor polishing the statue, it clearly was with a religious hate background


[18-Jul-20 04:40 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
beheading is typical for islam


[18-Jul-20 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
there's plenty of people who dislike christanity, baselessly accusing "da muzlimz" for the vandalism is very much discriminatory


[18-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
they wouldnt behad a statue :shrug: only scum does that


[18-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i dont like islam as much as i dont like christianity


[18-Jul-20 04:42 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
islam is pretty fucked up religion


[18-Jul-20 04:42 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
regardless of how much influence the united states had on it.  it's still fucked up and needs to change


[18-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
every religion is fucked up, but islam is terror, hate, violence on a level that is far below anything human


[18-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
maybe?  i dont know what it was like befire the whole us invasion thing.  but i heard the qoran is  really nasty


[18-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
but id say relative fucked up, christianity at least has a peaceful message, if there wasnt money making behind it


[18-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
tbh the bible is pretty gross in certain ways


[18-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that the UK used a violent passage from the bible to bar asylum to a christian from the middle east fleeing religious persecution


[18-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
eeyup


[18-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/world/europe/britain-asylum-seeker-christianity.html

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Rejecting Asylum Claim, U.K. Quotes Bible to Say Christianity Is No...
An Iranian asylum seeker said he converted from Islam to Christianity because it was a “peaceful” religion. The Home Office used Bible verses about vengeance as a basis to deny the claim.
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[18-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
they also murdered countless "Witches"


[18-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
anyway they can stay in their country and behead each other as they want, but if they r here they r enemies


[18-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
but islam is just as bad.  possibly worse?  i dont know enough to make that call.  i hate how leftists condemn christianity without comdemning islam.  and the right condemns islam without condemning christianity


[18-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
like i said every relgion is 💩


[18-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
anyone who uses religion to attack a group of people is a sick fuck.

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[18-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i mean there are religious people who are good

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[18-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
except the religion i started, the saladians 🥗


[18-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
imo religions should be modified to remove that nasty shit


[18-Jul-20 04:47 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Your religious belief is like your dick, you can get proud of it as much as you want, but you shouldn't showing it off everywhere and force everyone to accept it, especially children.

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[18-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
no more hate


[18-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
i hope u didnt meant salad :nuu:


[18-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
jokes on u i dont have one :hm:


[18-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
just as any religion, i dont believe in any god but science


[18-Jul-20 04:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
Hmm yes dehumanising them like we have been since 9/11 really works to make them integrate and not become extremists


[18-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
there is absolutely no reason for them to integrate in the first place


[18-Jul-20 04:50 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
they should stay in their country


[18-Jul-20 04:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
Idk m8 you're sounding a bit like an actual fascist rn


[18-Jul-20 04:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
Inb4 trans fascist


[18-Jul-20 04:51 PM] likeafox#8888
oof nationalism itt 😦


[18-Jul-20 04:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Religion is the opiate of the masses after all; but tbf any characterization of islam as "barbaric" is forgetting the bigger picture and assuming all Muslims are Wahhabis


[18-Jul-20 04:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
`but islam is just as bad.  possibly worse?`
Islam is definitely just as bad as Christianity when it comes to violence. Possibly worse because they added extra chapters to the book.
To condemn Christianity without condemning Islam is just ridiculous.


[18-Jul-20 04:52 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
u sound like an actualy left terrorist now :shrug:

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[18-Jul-20 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When, in fact, islam's current situation and image is the product of decades and decades of misunderstanding and mishandling by western empires


[18-Jul-20 04:53 PM] >That Guy#3386
Same can be said for any violence anywhere.


[18-Jul-20 04:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
Easy to dehumanise people you don't understand, you can criticise specific groups, but generalising Islam as an entirety is very cringe.

The assumption that they're all the same and even being horrible to Sikhs because you think they're muslim who in my experience have been totally lovely people really ain't helping anyone

Sikhs btw don't hate on Islam despite getting that treatment for being assumed to be Muslim, they instead call you a dickhead like you are.


[18-Jul-20 04:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
I don't get why anyone would paint Christianity as violent but not Islam.
I need to read more about that case.


[18-Jul-20 04:54 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 not true, their ideals like oppression of womans, it being normal to murder, rape and everything is just part of their culture


[18-Jul-20 04:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
Islam is *at least* as violent as Christianity. They share a lot of the same beliefs.


[18-Jul-20 04:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Lexi Fyrestar where?


[18-Jul-20 04:55 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
murder for hornor is totally normal for them


[18-Jul-20 04:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway I'll leave people who understands Islam more comprehensively than I to handle this cringe posting.


[18-Jul-20 04:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> murder for hornor is totally normal for them
@Lexi Fyrestar  for which muslims?


[18-Jul-20 04:56 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
seemingly any, as cases happening in germany the judges considered their culture for a lower sentence, what is just insanely disgusting


[18-Jul-20 04:57 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
multiple cases of people out of different regions


[18-Jul-20 04:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
Islam does indeed have some passages that promote violence towards non-muslims, passages that Christians don't have in their book.
Not saying Christianity is objectively better, but Islam is *at least* as violent as Christianity.


[18-Jul-20 04:58 PM] likeafox#8888
what does a judge's bias have to do with it?


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
they commit murder in OUR country and the judges consider THEIR culture? how fucked up is that?


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
Islam also has most of what the Christian Bible has. It's really the same book with added chapters.


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I've seen cases where right wing media straight up lies.
This would be one of them.


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
left wing media straight up lies constantly

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[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] likeafox#8888
a judge's bias isn't an indictment of the defendant


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
Post your sources then.


[18-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
post ur mom


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
i dont waste time on left extremists sorry


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Lexi Fyrestar tbf considering how you're a committed Trump supporter and xenophobe i wouldn't consider you worth talking to anyway


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] likeafox#8888
omg Lexi is just rattling off alt-right talking points one after another


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] >That Guy#3386
All media that leans any direction politically has a tendency to lie.

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[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
We really got a trans fascist lolcow here


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
😹


[18-Jul-20 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're already off the deep end


[18-Jul-20 05:01 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
there the butthurt of left extremist goes, i dont support left nor right

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[18-Jul-20 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmfao


[18-Jul-20 05:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Literal, vague third positionism, how typical


[18-Jul-20 05:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just don't understand why anyone would ever think that Christianity is worse than Islam.


[18-Jul-20 05:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't support left nor right [only posts alt-right talking points]

Hmmnm


[18-Jul-20 05:02 PM] likeafox#8888
Lexi is a free thinker don't you know


[18-Jul-20 05:02 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
typical left extremist lol


[18-Jul-20 05:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
What is a "talking point"?


[18-Jul-20 05:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
How these degenerates are all subhumans who believe and do the same things perhaps


[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> typical left extremist lol
@Lexi Fyrestar  yes, if defending the working class no matter where it resides is left extremism, consider me a left extremist


[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
wait so the original islamic religion supported homosexuality and womens rights and didn't involve Muhamad sexing a 14 year old girl?


[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
the issue is the most cruel violence comes from left, that is the point

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[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as?


[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
BLM

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[18-Jul-20 05:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
But I'm sure she's a big brain enlightened centrist

Google right wing terrorism USA compared to left wing and Islamic


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and mecca didnt originally execute people who set foot in the city who werent islamic?


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man what a lolcow


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
You'll notice who does the most terrorism


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
ill just watch u left extremist and right extremists killing each other lel


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cope


[18-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
prove to me that islam supports women and lgbt and ill support the religion


[18-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and the mecca shit i heard about makes me sick.  thats mass segrigation with threat of violence


[18-Jul-20 05:05 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think if there's one reason to be alarmed over Islam over other religions is perhaps that Islam is just currently the fastest growing one.
Universalizing religions, smh.


[18-Jul-20 05:06 PM] Crow#5457
muted lexi, they obviously have no concept of rational discussion


[18-Jul-20 05:06 PM] dissociativity#8391

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[18-Jul-20 05:07 PM] likeafox#8888
Eh, she wasn't being uncivil


[18-Jul-20 05:07 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i hear people on the left tell me that islam used to be peaceful before western intervention.  but i never see people explain the way it used to be


[18-Jul-20 05:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
As if


[18-Jul-20 05:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
They've had their history.


[18-Jul-20 05:08 PM] >That Guy#3386
No shortage of sectarian violence.


[18-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i genuinely want to learn this stuff.


[18-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
the idea of a city that kills people who arent part of your religion if they set foot in it makes me physically whince


[18-Jul-20 05:09 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
🤢


[18-Jul-20 05:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
How could predominantly Muslim countries have begun radicalising so heavily?

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[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/egypt-religious-root-conflicts-middle-east

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Egypt: The Religious Root of Conflicts in the Middle East
Whose Islam is it? This is the key question that divides the Middle East.
https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/02-05-17/islamic_monthly.jpg


[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i guess it depends on how you view the situation?  like i want both the us to stop interfering but i also want islam to de-radicalize.


[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
You need one to do the other


[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
both are bad regardless


[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
> I traveled to Egypt in December to interview Salafists and scholars from Al-Azhar to demonstrate the magnitude and expansion of the concern over the religious difference between the Shia and Sunni. Egypt is a country with less than 1% of Shia, according to U.S. State department statistics. Yet, many Egyptians believe there is a “Shia threat.” Therefore, even in an outlier state with no history of sectarianism, the regional conflict, which began in Iraq and later Syria, is taking its toll.


[18-Jul-20 05:10 PM] Crow#5457
seems familiar


[18-Jul-20 05:11 PM] >That Guy#3386
Egypt has been a dick when it comes to middle eastern politics.
Not as bad as Saudi Arabia though.


[18-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
so the us leaves the middle east alone.  i dont know if that would make them change


[18-Jul-20 05:11 PM] likeafox#8888
The islamic world had a golden age some dozen+ centuries ago, where they were pretty much the height of human social and technological progress. Not a high bar at the time, but they really stood out


[18-Jul-20 05:12 PM] likeafox#8888
@Hearth Flare  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

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Islamic Golden Age
The Islamic Golden Age was a period  of cultural, economic, and scientific flourishing in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century. This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-R...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Islamic_Golden_Age_montage.png


[18-Jul-20 05:12 PM] >That Guy#3386
I really want the U.S. to leave the middle East alone. It's none of our business, and quite frankly I don't care what happens in some desert.


[18-Jul-20 05:12 PM] >That Guy#3386
>inb4 muh Russia/China takes over
Let them have it.


[18-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i dont understand why they want to take it out on their own people instead of just taking it out on foreigners


[18-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
if islam was already supporting gay relationships before why stop now?  why oppress women because the us ravenged the country.  it doesnt make sense>?


[18-Jul-20 05:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's moreso that assholes take advantage of chaos to push their own agendas.


[18-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and thats why i dont think us leaving will fix the problem as much as i hear


[18-Jul-20 05:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
I don't think they've ever had a positive opinion of gay people.


[18-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and that is why i hate it


[18-Jul-20 05:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
Or women for that matter.


[18-Jul-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Oh, oh, I know


[18-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
so why defend the religion?  why do leftists defend something so fucked up?


[18-Jul-20 05:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Are we using our _big brains_ here right now?

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[18-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
just because the us government was beinggreedy douches doesnt change the fact that islam is an inharently fucked up religion


[18-Jul-20 05:17 PM] byte[]#2610
If there's a thing I think deserves to die it's religion


[18-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
^


[18-Jul-20 05:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
All religion is fucked and needs to die out. :trixdisgust:


[18-Jul-20 05:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just say that it's *at least* as fucked up as Christianity, so anybody who has a problem with Christianity should have a problem with Islam.


[18-Jul-20 05:17 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
eeyup


[18-Jul-20 05:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
Because it's the same book with extra chapters.


[18-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
so hearing ""sjws"" defend it so much is wierd


[18-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
eeyup


[18-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
like i too want to pull the us from the middle east.  but that is irrelevant to my desire to bring gay and womens rights to it as well


[18-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
both need to happen imo


[18-Jul-20 05:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
You should also understand that Twitter does not accurately represent any real group of people.


[18-Jul-20 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not all majority Muslim states are the same and many are even liberal by our standards. To make an example of Indonesia -- student girls abide vaguely by islamic customs when doing mandatory religious classes yet when they step out of school, they quickly cast most of them aside to immerse back into their individualist westernized world


[18-Jul-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
It disproportionately represents fringe views


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
more so than even 4chan does, honestly, because 4chan isn't putting a clout megaphone on everyone


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why are religious classes mandatory?


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
twitter is a fucking cesspit


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Muslims you guys are talking about would be more in line with Iran and Saudi Arabia -- *the latter of which is supported by the United States*


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] byte[]#2610
(also the size of 4chan's audience pales in comparison to twitter)


[18-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
yeah religion shouldnt be manditory.  thats fucked up


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In most of the Muslim world, pan-islamism is a fringe ideology -- it often gets quickly outshouted by nationalist identities when conflict rises up


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] >That Guy#3386
We need to cut ties with the Saudis.
And Israel too while we're at it


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Several people are typing...


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
Leftists don't support Muslims uncritically, the framework for support is around people treating them like subhumans since 9/11 at least.


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
thats another problem i have with the middle east.  mandatory religions.  many countries have this issue where church and state are one in the same


[18-Jul-20 05:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
Not around saying it's okay to be misogynistic and homophobic, noone thinks that's okay.


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Religion and state are only one and the same in the case of Saudi Arabia and Iran iirc


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
that makes alot of sense diss.  don't think all muslims follow the religion the same


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
Treating people like shit is bad


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think it's mostly *liberals* who defend Islam, while knowing nothing about it


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
unless they treat others like shit  :dashlaugh:


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
They didn't choose to be brought up that way


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
Not necessarily hard-leftists.


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Turkey, Egypt, Tunisia, Lebanon, Algeria, they're all quite secular -- and Indonesia recognizes multiple different religions in its constitution


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
woke progressives


[18-Jul-20 05:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
But it's no defence for when they do shitty things themselves


[18-Jul-20 05:24 PM] byte[]#2610
don't waste your time defending islam, because it's not worth it. defend muslims the same way you'd defend anyone else from unfair discrimination


[18-Jul-20 05:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What causes islamic extremism to rise is war, famine, economic failure, and political instability


[18-Jul-20 05:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
I wouldn't call Egypt the pinnacle of secular society, tbh...


[18-Jul-20 05:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's just woke libs entirely, remember kids, liberals are centrists in the political spectrum, not leftists, they support capitalism


[18-Jul-20 05:24 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
the way the world works is why i beleive in horseshoe theory


[18-Jul-20 05:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
If anything most are economically right


[18-Jul-20 05:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@>That Guy of course not, some loud islamists have been making rounds recently. But Egypt for the most part remains secular and even somewhat leftist as Gamal Abdel Nasser wished for


[18-Jul-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not really horseshoe if all the woke people are supporting the right of rich people to pillage the economy


[18-Jul-20 05:25 PM] byte[]#2610
it's just conservatives, and more conservatives over here.


[18-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
everyone has their faults.  we gotta stop clinging to grudes and try and work together.  both the left and right are obsessed with social justice and revenge'


[18-Jul-20 05:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
Social democracy is barely centre-left, Bernie is basically a centrist irl


[18-Jul-20 05:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
The left is a lot more variable than it seems


[18-Jul-20 05:26 PM] >That Guy#3386
He's not a centrist in America.


[18-Jul-20 05:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
America is not real life, it's a fringe right wing echo chamber lol

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[18-Jul-20 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
America is just Brazil's social standards including a larger army


[18-Jul-20 05:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
America is, as we say, cringe


[18-Jul-20 05:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I wish my country's political views were fringe


[18-Jul-20 05:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
Idk about echo chamber, but sure, it's not the same about the rest of the world.


[18-Jul-20 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the world's loudest third world country


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
America is a simulation


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
Isn't it the very definition of a first world country?
First world means you allied with America in the Cold War.


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
Bernie's views are a normal centrist thing in Europe


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
i think im a democratic socialist?  like there are aspects of capitalism i like.  i dont want government controlling my house.  but we need checks and balances.  we gotta balance society to keep it afloat.  and keep people from gaining too much power while maintaining people in charge


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, that was the old definition. Today it's apparently some stupid scale regarding economic development


[18-Jul-20 05:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
Left of centre sure, but not leftist


[18-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
turkey used to be secular


[18-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
centralism is good for society imo.  keeps thing balanced and level headed


[18-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Crow#5457
now, not so much


[18-Jul-20 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, all countries like it tend to denigrate into something worse once crisis comes


[18-Jul-20 05:30 PM] >That Guy#3386
The economic development association is propaganda intentionally spread to discourage countries from fence-sitting. It is an incorrect definition.

Most neutral countries at the time just happened to be poor.

America will never not be a first world country.
Switzerland will never not be a third world country.


[18-Jul-20 05:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I myself despise Erdogan to the bone, but i'm aware his rise wasn't accidental


[18-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
switzerland is a third world country?  :roseconfused:


[18-Jul-20 05:30 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yes.


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
They're probably the best example of third-worldism.


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It doesn't matter what the formal definition is -- the populace has modified the linguistic meaning of this term


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
They just keep to themselves without intervening.


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Third world" today means "poor, hungry and war-torn", end of story


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'm actually a big proponent of third-worldism. I want the imperialism to end.


[18-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
politics make my brain hurt when i get too deep into arguements lol


[18-Jul-20 05:32 PM] >That Guy#3386
I used to be a polisci major, but then I decided I wanted to get a job.


[18-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Crow#5457
the US is already poor and hungry, it's currently working on the war-torn (though some parts of the US already look war-torn due to the extreme degradation of infrastructure)


[18-Jul-20 05:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is exactly my point


[18-Jul-20 05:33 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's a connotation, not the definition.


[18-Jul-20 05:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, the point is to turn the language defined by the powerful on its head


[18-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
the original definition of "third world country" is no longer relevant because it no longer reflects the current state of international politics


[18-Jul-20 05:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
If you want to say it's a shitty country, then go ahead. That's a matter if opinion.


[18-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
imo the best thing an individual with little impact on society can do is focus on living their life and looking out for friends and family.  try not to concern yourself with the plight of strangers unless you can have a major impact on it.  of you want to that's great.  but it can take a tole on mental health.  politics can hurt your mental health pretty badly


[18-Jul-20 05:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yes.

Although I consider third-worldism to be a politically relavant cause.


[18-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
by the original definition? the warsaw pact doesn't exist anymore, the cold war ended 3 decades ago


[18-Jul-20 05:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
Nations should keep to themselves.

In fact, the United States's "First world" approach to international politics is really what I want to stop. It's because it's the "leaderof the first world" that it continuously gets involved with proxy wars with Russia and even China.

The cold war ended, but first world mentality remains. It's the ghost of Western imperialism that remains from a bygone age.


[18-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Crow#5457
nations keeping to themselves is how we got the holocaust


[18-Jul-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I would like the so called leader of the "free world" to stop propping up authoritarian dictatorships and undermining democracy


[18-Jul-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
That's what I ask on the global stage


[18-Jul-20 05:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
Nations not keeping to themselves is why the middle East is so fucked up.


[18-Jul-20 05:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
Which do you think has killed more people?


[18-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Crow#5457
it wasn't the nations not keeping to themselves that fucked up the middle east per se, it was nations purposefully destabilizing the region for economic and political gain


[18-Jul-20 05:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's the same thing.


[18-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

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How The CIA Overthrew Iran's Democracy In 4 Days : Throughline
It's no secret that Iran and the U.S. have a history of animosity toward each other. But when and how did it begin? This week we look back at four days in August 1953, when the CIA orchestrated a coup of Iran's elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh.
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[18-Jul-20 05:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck the CIA. It's never good news with those guys.


[18-Jul-20 05:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
Couldn't even manage to kill Castro. Impotent chumps.


[18-Jul-20 05:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
>"lol, let's try exploding cigars this time."


[18-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
the worst part about this is that iran's democratically elected labor union friendly prime minister was only overthrown because the UK's GCHQ (CIA equivalent) straight up lied to the CIA about iran becoming friendly with the USSR (iran hated the USSR at the time)


[18-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Crow#5457
and he was overthrown because he was wildly popular for saying he was going to force the private british companies who were "leased" the oil wells (at gunpoint) by iran to unionize


[18-Jul-20 05:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
Dammit, Bond!


[18-Jul-20 05:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd still caution against painting a good nation versus bad nation narrative here though -- Mossadegh's government prior to the coup was notoriously haphazard due to mishandling of the nationalized oil firms


[18-Jul-20 05:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yep.
Countries hardly ever intervene out of the goodness in their hearts. It's all ulterior motives.
`good vs bad nation`
Yeah, rejecting this narrative is really the point behind third worldism.


[18-Jul-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the coup which installed the shah on power was somewhat popular -- the shah skated off his popularity for a little until the contradictions of Iranian society came to a head in 1979 due to a large new Iranian proletariat and increasing social inequality


[18-Jul-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@>That Guy not really -- it's more like an argument for internationalism, or communism, or anarchism


[18-Jul-20 05:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As it logically concludes in the notion that nations are inherently an obstacle


[18-Jul-20 05:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just wish Nations would stick to their own sovereign territories without trying to de-facto invade eachother.


[18-Jul-20 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if your nation is getting poor in the resources required to sustain a large-scale capitalist society and has no other option than to conquer more territory?


[18-Jul-20 05:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I respect your optimism, don't get me wrong, but i sincerely don't think your proposed state of affairs would last very long, or that nation-states would be necessary in a cooperative world peace scenario


[18-Jul-20 05:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
Okay, I just wish that *my* country would keep to itself and focus on increasing my own quality of life before policing people people halfway across the planet.


[18-Jul-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's reasonable, and mostly achievable, yes


[18-Jul-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/5ede767e136d846bdd06700f11ca51f2

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[18-Jul-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
Can I have a government that isn't an entire circus yet


[18-Jul-20 06:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://communia.blog/imperialism-is-no-game/

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Imperialism is not an adventure game taking place in exotic landscapes and control rooms where the level of abstraction makes hunger and blood invisible. It is the daily life of our lives and the threat it poses to us. It is the universal day-to-day life of a capital that cann...
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[18-Jul-20 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> No, imperialism is not an adventure game taking place in exotic landscapes and control rooms where the level of abstraction makes hunger and blood invisible. It is the daily life of our lives and the threat it poses to us. It is the universal day-to-day life of a capital that cannot find enough markets to give free rein to accumulation and destroys the capacities it organizes socially, the main one of them being us, labor power.


[18-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
```also walmart got to stay open but best buy and kohls had to close?  walmart also sells clothing and games.  they profited immensely off of the virus```

I imagine it went down approximately like this: "As we all know, at least one food chain has to stay open and be declared essential. We believe it should be the strongest, most developed company, determined by their dutiful support for democracy and the coming re-election of our rightful president. You have a week to submit pledges on the matter." Walmart submitted the most :twismug:


[18-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-south-korea-insults-larry-hogan-wife-maryland-governor-a9625651.html

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'Yumi was sitting there as the president hurled insults at her birthplace. I could tell she was hurt and upset,' Maryland governor Larry Hogan wrote.
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[18-Jul-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
> "Then, the jarring part: Trump said he really didn't like dealing with President Moon from South Korea. The South Koreans were 'terrible people,' he said, and he didn't know why the United States had been protecting them all these years," Mr Hogan wrote. "'They don't pay us, Trump complained.'"


[18-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
the tagline for 2020 is "It gets worse."


[18-Jul-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
but you already know Trump is an insufferable moron


[18-Jul-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
how could it ever be any more jarring to be around him than how he normally is


[18-Jul-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@byte[] > Pompeo also took aim in his speech at demonstrators “pulling down statues” and “desecrating monuments,” in echoes of President Donald Trump’s recent speech at Mount Rushmore. The secretary of state said it was an attack on the people who fought for the rights laid out in the Declaration of Independence.


[18-Jul-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Implying Confederate generals were the ones upholding the rights contained in the Declaration of Independence


[18-Jul-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Real mask off moment lmfao


[18-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```so why defend the religion?  why do leftists defend something so fucked up?```


[18-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
to stick it to the Man. If it's good for corporations and/or the current government, it's by default bad for the left, as a general rule.


[18-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
USUALLY that's a safe bet, but not in this instance.


[18-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
double negative also doesn't give a positive here; islam countries sucking and being invaded doesn't make them good. Nor the invasion is of any benefit, iirc US tried building Afghanistan into a reformation model. Two decades and 'you've got to be kidding' money later, the progress is nil.


[18-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
... killing innocent people with indiscriminate drone bombing is not conductive to good will


[18-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i wasn’t defending islam, i still believe all religion should disappear gradually. I was merely pointing out the sociopolitical diversity of the so called Muslim world compared to the usual stereotypes


[18-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53012783

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US targets 'kangaroo' ICC over war crimes probe
President Trump imposes sanctions on officials who are investigating alleged crimes in Afghanistan.
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[18-Jul-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1284344926092906498

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[18-Jul-20 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His what


[18-Jul-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
balls

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[18-Jul-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
if the gestapo take me, wish me luck fellas

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[18-Jul-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/18/892617402/oregon-to-sue-federal-agencies-over-protest-enforcement

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Oregon Sues Federal Agencies Over Protest Enforcement
The state could also pursue criminal charges against an agent who seriously injured a protester.
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[18-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Opponent#3498
```thats another problem i have with the middle east.  mandatory religions.  many countries have this issue where church and state are one in the same```
Russia also has that btw :twismug:

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[18-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Frosku#5874
UK has church-state unification and no mandatory religion.


[18-Jul-20 07:21 PM] PwnyPony#6185
US also sticks god over everything. swear on the bible, god we trust, under god.


[18-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, you are allowed to swear on something other than the Bible now. I think that's more tradition -- swearing on the Bible used to mean essentially that you were promising to God that you would speak only the truth.


[18-Jul-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
key word *now*


[18-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Frosku#5874
That made a lot more sense when a large % of the population were Christian.


[18-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Also AFAIK Russia doesn't have mandatory religion.


[18-Jul-20 07:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-12-27/russia-introduces-mandatory-religion-class-all-4th-graders apparently there;s this (old article)

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Russian fourth graders will learn about one of six religions under a new program implemented in that country this school year. Under the new program, lobbied for by the Russian Orthodox Church, parents can choose from six religion or belief systems to learn about.
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[18-Jul-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-is-not-worried-about-19-cases-aide-admits-he-is-not-really-working-on-this-anymore/

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[18-Jul-20 07:29 PM] Honahue#0656
Russia does what evangelical christian's in the US want to do


[18-Jul-20 07:30 PM] Frosku#5874
There's a pretty big Jewish community in Russia, and AFAIK they don't have serious issues.


[18-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Frosku#5874
I've spent a bit of time out there.


[18-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Lots of issues around free speech and freedom to protest, I didn't see a lot around religion.


[18-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
The best description I can give of Russia is that it's less closed off than its critics say, and less open than its defenders say.


[18-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Also Moscow is, in general, more free and liberal than the rest of Russia.


[18-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Also, generally speaking, you do not want to live there if you're LGBT. You have rights on paper but they are not respected by large sections of the public or by the government.


[18-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Moscow is probably okay, but I wouldn't chance it.


[18-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
```Also AFAIK Russia doesn't have mandatory religion.```


[18-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe not in paper, but in reality RPC is just another branch of government, schools have religion lessons (christian ofc, I'm not saying 'mandatory' as post-USSR education system is pretty inflexible, you can't really choose), etc


[18-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I am basing my experiences primarily on doing business in Russia, and not on being a permanent resident, so I'm sure a Russian could correct me btw.


[18-Jul-20 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe @ononim


[18-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
and yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are fine-ish in terms of LGBTQ. They're a nation within a nation, culturally.


[18-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest of it... mmmmmmyeah proceed at your own peril.


[18-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, the vast majority of my experience of Russia is in Moscow as a person on a business visa. So not typical.


[18-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
I have clients in Moscow, I run a US-based business.


[18-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Also there is little to no press freedom in Russia


[18-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Frosku#5874
If you support Putin/United Russia you can pretty much write whatever you want, if you don't you basically have to write in code.


[18-Jul-20 07:44 PM] ononim#8141
I have finished school well before anything like that was implemented


[18-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
On the other hand, Russia's economic freedom is pretty good. Low taxes, very little bureaucracy for running a company.


[18-Jul-20 07:46 PM] ononim#8141
tho I think in high school they were putting it in a few schools aroudn the country as tests, iirc at teh time it was on year, either 4th or 5th, and you, technically, could choose between Christian (Orthodox of course lol), Muslim, Buddhist, Judaism and "Secular Ethics" or "Religious Traditions of RUssia"


[18-Jul-20 07:47 PM] ononim#8141
Not sure if it is a thing everywhere now


[18-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Opponent#3498
re: economic freedoms, perhaps for a US citizen :D


[18-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent This is coming mostly from Russians I do business with. For me it's a pain in the ass to get a visa to do business in Russia. :P


[18-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. Well, they'd know better than me.


[18-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
I've heard something very different from my friends over there.


[18-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Frosku#5874
They're not massively open to foreign trade, from what I've seen, but it's not off the cards either and there's a big market there if you're prepared to do the donkey work.


[18-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Frosku#5874
IIRC 13% is the top rate of income tax, and 20% top rate of corporate tax, which is far lower than the US.


[18-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Honahue#0656
doesn't really matter what the US corporate tax rate is tho cause there's plenty of tricks to make it 0


[18-Jul-20 07:53 PM] ononim#8141
Aight so I asked my aunt about my cousin school and here's what I got:
It is indeed one year in 4th year, and you can choose from a) one for specific religions: orthodox christianity, islam, buddhism, judaism; b) history of the world religions; c)secular ethics.
Also it is lax on how important it is from school to school, my cousin had basically just "read a chapter and listen to 45 minutes of teacher talk once a week"


[18-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, that's not bad.


[18-Jul-20 07:54 PM] ononim#8141
also in 5th class they have something that is called "spiritual history of people and ethniticies of russia"


[18-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue There really aren't, it's basically just profit offset and charitable giving.


[18-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Honahue#0656
upi


[18-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Honahue#0656
you might be surprised to know how many billionaires own a charity


[18-Jul-20 07:54 PM] ononim#8141
and I have no idea how much it is just "TRADITIONAL VALUES ~~mostly russian or depending on if yo're in a republic~~" or something that actually resembles proper cultural anthropology


[18-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue I wouldn't be surprised at all, because a lot of billionaires like giving money away.


[18-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Honahue#0656
so long as it's tax free


[18-Jul-20 07:55 PM] ononim#8141
@Frosku I suspect this is is relativelly big foreign buisness thing


[18-Jul-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
charities are surprisingly good tax havens


[18-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Frosku#5874
@ononim Small business, but we work with clients around the world in the finance industry.


[18-Jul-20 07:57 PM] ononim#8141
because uhhhhh, police and various bureaus and bureaucrats love to boggle down people who try to open something from ground up, mostly so they could get some bribe money


[18-Jul-20 07:57 PM] Frosku#5874
Ohhh, yeah I've heard corruption can be an issue.


[18-Jul-20 07:59 PM] ononim#8141
There was a big process few years ago where family bakery was prosecuted and iirc some got prison terms for drug dealing... because they had poppy seeds for pastries.
It was wildly believed that in fact it was just because they either didn't pay racket money to police and officials or crossed them in some other way.


[18-Jul-20 07:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Wow wtf


[18-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is more in line with typical russian business.


[18-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
Russia is like an f2p game with government/police being the admins


[18-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
theoretically free, but you either pay with money, or with 'crimes solved' statistics and PR.


[18-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
or, stay low and try to attract no attention.


[18-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
the last bit isn't so great for running a business though.


[18-Jul-20 08:06 PM] Frosku#5874
It's a huge shame tbh


[18-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Frosku#5874
Russia is a great country with great people and culture, if it was more open to liberties it'd be a place a lot of people want to live.


[18-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
true.


[18-Jul-20 08:10 PM] illumnious#7938

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[18-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/costco-karen-face-masks-twitter-video-shows

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[18-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
is that even possible?  or is it a false report?


[18-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
:ponythinking:


[18-Jul-20 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We know infants can catch COVID-19, we know the disease is worse when it's not well controlled


[18-Jul-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/85-infants-have-tested-positive-coronavirus-1-texas-county-u-n1234293

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"These babies have not even had their first birthdays yet. Please help us to stop the spread of this disease," the Nueces County public health director said.
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[18-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
that's insane


[18-Jul-20 09:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But entirely predictable


[18-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
gee i sure am lucky i live in jersey right now


[18-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
keyword being right now lol


[18-Jul-20 09:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think anywhere in the US is safe anymore with the levels spiking in certain states. There's just no way to lock down interstate travel.


[18-Jul-20 09:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm reminded of Wren's grand canyon analogy as it applies to people underestimating just how quickly something that grows like this...actually grows. https://youtu.be/e02eiX866N4?t=208

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[18-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
guess we'll just have to learn to live with it


[18-Jul-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit hard to live with it when you;re drowning in your own lungs


[18-Jul-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the newest problem is that secluded places that were safer will now suddenly become much less safe once schools re-open and the children that lived in those places start spreading it aorund


[18-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Honahue#0656
it's creeping up on 4% lethality which if it does infect everyone in the US is like 14 million dead, which is like 20 times more US deaths than was in WW2


[18-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
at 130000 it's already over 1/4th those deaths


[18-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Honahue#0656
really close to 1/3


[18-Jul-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile Trump has completely stopped working on anythign related to covid


[18-Jul-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[18-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
where is the 4% number coming from?


[18-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

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Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.
View the number of confirmed cases COVID-19 in the United States.
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[18-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
the numbers are CONFIRMED cases and deaths.  We dont know the true number of people infected.  many get infected and never notice.  and the death rate doesnt necessarily mean covid 19 was the cause of their death


[18-Jul-20 09:44 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
it includes someone as a death if they died while having covid in their system.  but its not necessarily that that was what killed them.  also death rates are very different based on age


[18-Jul-20 09:44 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah there's a +- error but how big do you think there error is?


[18-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Any comment on "british scientints found that common cold can boost immunity against covid"?

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[18-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
nearly half the deaths were reported via nursing homes.  and people under the age of 70 have a much lower death rate than those 70 - 80.  and 80+ is much more vulnerable


[18-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
40% i think of the deaths were from nursing homes?  i remember hearing about how NY let infected patients into nursing hoimes


[18-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Honahue#0656
okay I guess it's fine then if it's mostly the elderly dying then


[18-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-york-will-no-longer-require-nursing-homes-take-covid-n1204586

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[18-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
was recently lifted


[18-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
real fucked up imo


[18-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Honahue#0656
yes the resposne to the virus as been incompetence but reopening is just further incompetence


[18-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
https://apnews.com/5ebc0ad45b73a899efa81f098330204c

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AP count: Over 4,500 virus patients sent to NY nursing homes
NEW YORK (AP) — More than 4,500 recovering coronavirus patients were sent to New York’s already vulnerable nursing homes under a controversial state directive that was ultimately scrapped amid...
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[18-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
we gotta encourage elderly to stay home!


[18-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Hearth Flare#9202
and away from others for as long as we can!


[18-Jul-20 10:17 PM] illumnious#7938
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"There will be another wave, and it will be very serious. More than 90% of the population is susceptible" https://t.co/Rn3wp2UUD0
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[18-Jul-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-protesters-police-violence-christopher-columbus-statue-2020-7

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[18-Jul-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Civil rights leader Rev. Cordy Tindell "CT" Vivian has died of natural causes at 95, his daughter says. Vivian participated in the Freedom Rides and worked alongside Martin Luther King Jr. during the civil rights movement. https://t.co/msSed2H6z0
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[18-Jul-20 10:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
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Fordham sanctions student over posts about David Dorn, Second Amend...
A student at Fordham University has been sanctioned by the school for a series of social media posts supporting conservative causes that university officials say violated its code of conduct.
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[18-Jul-20 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
yup. Wrongthink.


[18-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>privately owned school deciding to do a thing with someone


[18-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I wonder if the Washington examiner was on the side of "just go buy another cake" when the bakery thing happened


[18-Jul-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes, because it's WE


[18-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yay inconsistency


[18-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Amazing how they can just go turn there back on the free market like that


[18-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Like this kid can just go to another school if he doesn't like the decisions of this business. Whats the problem here?


[18-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:twismug:


[18-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok to be real tho this was kind of a shitty thing for the school to do.


[18-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

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[18-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oof that mixed rateing


[18-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Anschutz is also the owner of the right leaning Weekly Standard and has donated millions of dollars to right leaning causes, including anti-LGBT groups, such as the Family Research Council, which has been labeled a hate group." oof


[18-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/506137-tammy-duckworth-claps-back-at-tucker-carlson-walk-a-mile-in-my-legs

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Tammy Duckworth hits back at Tucker Carlson: 'Walk a mile in my legs'
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) on Monday night hit back at Fox News host Tucker Carlson after he criticized her for supporting a “national dialogue” on removing memorials to George Washington.
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[18-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-examiner

Tbf it does better here

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[18-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
According to Politico, "When it came to the editorial page, Anschutz's instructions were explicit—he 'wanted nothing but conservative columns and conservative op-ed writers,' said one former employee."  oof


[18-Jul-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
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Oh my, who had American Brownshirts on their 2020 bingo card?
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[18-Jul-20 11:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh thanks imgur very cool that's totally illegible in the preview


[18-Jul-20 11:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Granted, seth abramson is a particularly left-biased source but this is, as far as I've been able to determine, factually accurate


[18-Jul-20 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I seem to remember several months back Trump issuing an executive order to the DOJ to create a task force to review police reform, which was on paper making pretty good directives, save for the fact that Barr was specifically put in charge of determining literally everything


[18-Jul-20 11:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that was, I think, the moment Barr began amassing his secret police


[18-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
well, not only you now have punished wrongthink, but also secret police :D


[18-Jul-20 11:40 PM] Opponent#3498
papa Goebbels would be proud.


[18-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:scared:


[18-Jul-20 11:51 PM] Synfag#9241
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"ValiDate", a crowdfunded tumblr dating sim game posted stretch goals of "Add a white person" and then "Remove the white person". Then threw a tantrum mocking angry folks.

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[18-Jul-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
That's Not News.mp4


[19-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
it's one of those moment where it really does what it says on the tin.


[19-Jul-20 12:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
oopsie.


[19-Jul-20 12:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony 
from the comments:
> Good thing the NRA has fought for American citizens’ right to keep and bear arms so that we can protect ourselves from tyranny.Right?Right?
i hope pple stop believing that excuse if it turns out gun owners wont do a thing


[19-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Opponent#3498
the secret police hurts everyone, so it's unlikely.


[19-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
and if it does turn out you disarming yourselves was the critical factor... Well. Kek.


[19-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/18/politics/cdc-funding-white-house-senate-republicans/index.html

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The White House and Senate Republicans are at odds over the amount of funding that should be given to the Centers for Disease and Control and Prevention in the next round of stimulus spending, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told CNN on Saturday.
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[19-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump continues to fuck over the cdc


[19-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
On second thought it's more sabotageing the cdc


[19-Jul-20 12:59 AM] jlun2#8758
why do we need the CDC if its the will of sky daddy when ppl get ill?


[19-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Sky daddy plz cure me uwu

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[19-Jul-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kanye-west-mount-rushmore-twitter-presidential-race-bid-donald-trump-2020-7

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Kanye West announced July 4 his intention to run for president, and confusion has since followed whether he actually intends to run or not.
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[19-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
why would anyone even care?


[19-Jul-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
because this is 2020, and satire is no longer distinguishable from reality


[19-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
businessinsider isn't satire though, is it?


[19-Jul-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
nope


[19-Jul-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
2020 is the onion made manifest


[19-Jul-20 01:49 AM] byte[]#2610
it kinda started a while ago


[19-Jul-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507971-trump-administration-seeking-to-block-funding-for-cdc-contact-tracing

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The Trump administration is attempting to block billions of dollars for contact tracing, additional testing and other coronavirus mitigation efforts that would potentially be included in Congress's next coronavirus relief package, officials i
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[19-Jul-20 01:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
sabotaging the cdc to own the...


[19-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I have no idea why he would do this actuly.


[19-Jul-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
to own the people who will vote for you


[19-Jul-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
old people who disproportionately vote for republicans die the most from covid


[19-Jul-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
truly baffling


[19-Jul-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the numbers and CDC make him look bad to his dictator friends


[19-Jul-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he isnt copying their methods of control then what;s the point of having any power?


[19-Jul-20 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But really, it's a vain attempt to pretend it doesnt exist so he can shove his hands in his ears and pretend it isnt effecting his election chances


[19-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Question. Did Trump ever fix Flint's water crisis?


[19-Jul-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nope


[19-Jul-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda)   https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-idk-hammer-nailed-gif-15254720

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[19-Jul-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a political clusterfuck


[19-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
>Question. Did Trump ever fix
>Nope
Could stop at this

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[19-Jul-20 02:00 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought it was the millenial virus in US tho?@byte[]


[19-Jul-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Millenials and zoomers are spreading it the most, but they aren't dying the most


[19-Jul-20 02:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its sad that Trump talked about Flint a lot during his campaign but never did anything about it yet had more than enough time to talk about a stupid wall and pushed for it the most in congress


[19-Jul-20 02:03 AM] jlun2#8758
he talks a lot on lots things & i have no idea if he knows what's he talking about


[19-Jul-20 02:04 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Going off of what happened with the Iran Nuclear Deal I don't think he does ether.


[19-Jul-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
during his 2016 campaign he jsut said whatever his managers told him would make him look good


[19-Jul-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had no idea what "drain the swamp" meant he just knew it did well in focus testing


[19-Jul-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
So he said that phrase a shit ton


[19-Jul-20 02:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
And now he just doesn't care anymore he is just saying whatever he thinks will get people to vote for him.


[19-Jul-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's pretty much it, he throws shit at the fan and sees what sticks


[19-Jul-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's also doing really shady shit behind the scenes with the slight possibility that he may be trying to build a post election coup incase he loses


[19-Jul-20 02:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't think it was a good idea to focus on race baiting as a campaign strategy, I think he believes that he could pull another upset out of his butt but all he did was make people want to vote him out more.


[19-Jul-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's trying to cater to a base that's shrunk down to nothing but nationalists and christians since 2016


[19-Jul-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in 2016 even though he didn't win democratically his advantage was he duped people who were desperate for any kind of change at all to fix their lives


[19-Jul-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of those people have realized that no, he isn't going to help them and have jumped ship


[19-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I thought as much


[19-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump had the aura of being a political outsider that benefited him against Hillary.


[19-Jul-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
kind of reminds me how we got Zelensky. The 'want literally anything or anyone to change their lives' was a very common sentiment. Ironically, hardcore nationalists were the only ones left out in this case cause he didn't advocate for continuing the war for the next 30 years like they wanted :D


[19-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Still don't like how Trump took advantage of Zelensky I hope Trump spends the rest of his life in a cold cell with his name plastered in infamy.


[19-Jul-20 02:26 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah one can hope.


[19-Jul-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
Name plastered in infamy is already done


[19-Jul-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
But seeing the inside of a cell, who knows


[19-Jul-20 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He didn't even see the inside of a cell when he was looking into the death of his good friend jeremy epstein


[19-Jul-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/right-wing-domestic-terrorism-has-increased-by-more-than-300-since-trump-took-office-report/

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[19-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Well that Nazi story on fimfiction got it's comment disabled


[19-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
It got 1K comments in less than 24 hours since it was last published


[19-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Tis was insane. lol. Only thing I can do is hope that the site recovers from this and the mods have to deal with this stress, kek


[19-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Some authors actually made stories in defense of their comments about that story and I kinda wanna write a story parodying the mess that this created. Problem is that I don't fully understood what just happened to create a good parody


[19-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
the site survived Fall of Equestria.


[19-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Opponent#3498
literally anything else is less harmful, or those people are complete hypocrites.


[19-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
what happened was a coordinated attack on pony hubs.


[19-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Opponent#3498
derpi was only the first.


[19-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Opponent#3498
least FiMfiction had a warning.


[19-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
I never did get Fall of Equestria. I don't even know what that is lol


[19-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Well, sucks that fimfiction probably won't suffer as much as this server does...


[19-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
gore-rape-mindbreak-slavery-hardcore black dom (back when blacks weren't equalised specifically to zebras), the list goes on and on.


[19-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Ouch, and they survived that?
The mods won't suffer then, especially that jackass mod that booted me from the discord server
Damnit all


[19-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it's all about what gets the """activists""" 🍆  hard.


[19-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
back then it was clopping to this. Tommorow it might be bashing this. it's equally meaningless.


[19-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Ltmajordude#9623
Time will tell. 
I just wish I could see if the discord server of fimfiction is fine or going crazy...


[19-Jul-20 03:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
wasn't it just the author's OC's race being a 'master race'? do you have a source for it being a standin for black people?

I remember it being absurdly misogynistic lol


[19-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
after the zebra thing I'm assuming black dom by default. It's equally as stupid tbh.


[19-Jul-20 03:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
the story around Fall of Equestria itself, and the spinoff fic that made the creator butthurt is hilarious


[19-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
but no, no 'horse's mouth' proof about it whatsoever.


[19-Jul-20 03:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
because he was demonstrably an awful person, like it was clearly pathological and long-past being simply a fetish, whereas say whitekitten isn't actually all that odd as a person afaik


[19-Jul-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Can vouch for @Jewel


[19-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Is it always a deliberate race thing if they just depict an interracial relationship where person of [x race] happens to be the dominant partner though?


[19-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Opponent#3498
to be honest I don't really care about either of them. I only mentioned it as an example of 'extreme content' already accepted (in a manner of speaking) way before the current witch hunt


[19-Jul-20 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, it seemed more of a weird 'my OC race is superior, ponies are beneath us' type deal than anything racialized towards real races to me.


[19-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh yeah

If they explicitly said stuff like that, then yeah


[19-Jul-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Zebras were specifically racialized by hasbro, so you can blame them for zeebs


[19-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
well


[19-Jul-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
hasbro's fault for not writing in zebras more and specifically racializing em


[19-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Zebras represent African culture, not "black people" in general

There are black-coded ponies too


[19-Jul-20 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
apparently the writers wanted to do more zebra stuff but that does not sell product enough sooo


[19-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough. I always assumed it's a US community-only thing.


[19-Jul-20 03:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
hasbro cucked us out of some cool worldbuilding and doomed zebras to remain more or less just zecora, which is a huge missed opportunity in my eyes, especially if zebras were more y'know, culturally diverse and thus sorta ended the racialized shit


[19-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, there's a Will Smith pony and Sapphire Shores seemed like a black pop diva. I feel like Zebras weren't "racialized" so much as "culturalized." The ponies aren't "white" so much as this kind of Americanadian culture that includes people of all races.


[19-Jul-20 03:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
I suppose, but having more zebras and exploring their kewl ass lands n shit would've been neat, y'know?


[19-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, remember the Indian ponies from Spice Up Your Life too


[19-Jul-20 03:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
I think S10 comics are supposed to expand on zebras more?


[19-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
it would.


[19-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That'd be cool to see more of, definitely.

Like, Zebras are analogous to people from the actual continent of Africa, while ponies aren't really tied to a specific race and more of a "general western society" mish-mesh, with some ponies clearly taking cues from black, Hispanic, Indian, and Arab roots.


[19-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is what gets me everytime I see people arguing over nonwhite humanizations being "wrong" inherently


[19-Jul-20 03:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
no, it's not wrong inherently, I think the issue is more that they sorta just had zecora and only zecora as zeebs existing, maybe not having the time or budget for some zebra side-character assets early on? idk, it's not a huge horrific thing, just a minor 'thing that could've been better'


[19-Jul-20 03:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
just a few (even uncommon) zebra characters outside of ponyville could've been interesting, there's obviously the implication ponyville isn't familiar with zebras, but that didn't have to apply to elsewhere


[19-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm interested in seeing the comics expand on them.


[19-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Since the show's over, it's not like IDW can contradict the cartoon anymore, so the comics are a lot easier to just accept as canon now.


[19-Jul-20 03:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
truu


[19-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Jewel#1143
I was summoned


[19-Jul-20 03:59 AM] byte[]#2610
We were just saying you're a cool guy


[19-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Jewel#1143
deeply


[19-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Jewel#1143
in b4 I commission nazi fetish porn


[19-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
well, by doing that you'd be serving common good so, do your worst.


[19-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Jewel#1143
artists gotta eat :V


[19-Jul-20 04:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think it's actually a tragedy that Zebras have to be associated with black people just because they live in Africa. That's not an association we make with elephants or lions.


[19-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Jewel#1143
elephants and lions don't really feature in the show as sapients.


[19-Jul-20 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://imgur.com/gZFmKPy

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Oh my, who had American Brownshirts on their 2020 bingo card?
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[19-Jul-20 04:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
I meant generally in other cartoons.


[19-Jul-20 04:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
I get why, but it's sad.


[19-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I think the lions from The Lion King as humans would absolutely be black. James Earl Jones made it so that I could not imagine Mufasa as anything else.


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Jewel#1143
Darth vader, definitely black


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i mean, in that case


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fictional creatures shouldn't be compared to irl races.

The hynenas all had black voices though.


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Jewel#1143
or more crispy charcoal lava burned. Whatever race that is.


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
his suit made his voice super deep and cool


[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/18/892617402/oregon-to-sue-federal-agencies-over-protest-enforcement
damn

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Oregon Sues Federal Agencies For Grabbing Up Protesters Off The Str...
The state could also pursue criminal charges against an agent who seriously injured a demonstrator.
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[19-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
@>That Guy it wouldn't be a modern US community if there wasn't a side not associated with blacks.


[19-Jul-20 04:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why does that have to be true?
Why can't fictional races exist in a vaccume?


[19-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No they didn't. Whoopi Goldberg was one of them, but Cheech Marin and Jim Cummings voiced the other two.


[19-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Jewel#1143
no joke that shit is cray-cray. The federal government actors just running up in unmarked cars and shoving people into vans.


[19-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
same reason we have the current witch hunts.


[19-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
because people can. They know they can, it gets their 🍆  hard.


[19-Jul-20 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
American brown shirts time


[19-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Jewel#1143
it's okay you'll die a good woke Christian on social media after you're proven not to be  a witch


[19-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Jewel#1143
I can't hear brown shirts without thinking of the brown pants joke.


[19-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
>That Guy, they can exist in a vacuum, but that vacuum can't exist when humanizing them unless you make the humanizations *also* fantastical, like the Equestria Girls technocolor population


[19-Jul-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
my argument is more simply having other zebras around wouldn't made zebras as a whole more nuanced and interesting, and would've simply improved the show, they could've just been like ponies but their magic is ritualistic and potion magic, glyphs, ect

we all obviously love zecora lol


[19-Jul-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not that the writers, artists, animators were bad at all, it's just simply something that was too quickly overlooked in s1


[19-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh yeah.

I think it would've been fun to see another zebra who just spoke regular sentences and didn't rhyme at all. It's just a Zecora quirk specifically, not a zebra thing.


[19-Jul-20 04:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
which had implications on the rest of the show and zebras as a whole


[19-Jul-20 04:08 AM] byte[]#2610
and the fandom


[19-Jul-20 04:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it'd be neat to simply have had zebras as other ponies but like, maybe twilight needed them to help out with other magic n shit that she couldn't do since their magic is different, but still awesome


[19-Jul-20 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
just around, but like, to not contradict with earlier established canon, zebras would mainly be outside of ponyville, in cities n stuff


[19-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, maybe zebra magic is mostly potions and alchemy and stuff instead of the kind of "inherent" magic the ponies have?


[19-Jul-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
and glyphs, runes, ect, which maybe only they can use effectively, that's their magic


[19-Jul-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
more ritual performances of magic than simply poofing things


[19-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
enhance tools instead of the land.


[19-Jul-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
unicorn magic usually being poofing things into existence or poofing things different lol


[19-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
earth ponies but significantly different. Done. The race of alchemists and/or mechanical engineers.


[19-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Opponent#3498
just one of the ideas really floating near the surface.


[19-Jul-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, cool steampunk zeebs would've been fuckin kewl


[19-Jul-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
and would've utterly btfod any semblance of boring tropes


[19-Jul-20 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
that and zebras should more be a mix of cultures depending on where they're from anyway, much like ponies, would've been more fun, more opportunity, less filler.


[19-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, definitely.


[19-Jul-20 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
like in lots of FoE lore plenty are more like, roman for example


[19-Jul-20 04:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
but some are more like african cultures, and that's like, a cool way to do it, it doesn't sorta univers-ify zebras into just being black people stand-ins as current fandom culture sorta uhhhh, has done forever lol

I'm not saying that is inherently bad, but rather if the show was done a bit better, it would've been different, or at least not as prevalent culturally.


[19-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
roman is stolen from the Legion :D


[19-Jul-20 04:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup, but honestly it would've been interesting to have stuff like that, both roman, AND african cultures, and even others throughout the continent


[19-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd have liked that. Also to dissuade the types of fans who go "Well, pony humanizations *can't* be black because zebras"


[19-Jul-20 04:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
not roman specifically necessarily even, but you get what I mean, ponies have plenty of different cultures depending on where they are


[19-Jul-20 04:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
like as much as we love the show, we can criticize little bits of lazy writing and still love it


[19-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Definitely

Like, there are elements of the show I like but feel like weren't executed super well


[19-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I like Discord being redeemed but still felt like it was super rushed, for example.


[19-Jul-20 04:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
the implementation of zebras as a whole was simply lazy writing, we love zecora but zebras should've always been more than zecora, at least after s1, like s2 could've had the mane 6 see more around even as side characters, background ponies, ect


[19-Jul-20 04:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, like it or not, how the show handled things reflected on us culturally as a whole, so I think it's interesting and fun to analyze that 😄


[19-Jul-20 04:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
"wait the show is political?"
"always was"


[19-Jul-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
bam


[19-Jul-20 04:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wanna see someone draw the meme


[19-Jul-20 04:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
it would piss off the 'nooo you can't bring politics into ponies nooo'


[19-Jul-20 04:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
then again, chuds thought it was pretty political when the 'diversity 6', as they call them, were in


[19-Jul-20 04:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
nooo how dare a show about friendship and tolerance extend that actively to other races of sapient creatures as main characters nooo


[19-Jul-20 04:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
it was political then, but somehow not before then lmao


[19-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But that's the thing. Why is *that* political but them all being the same not? Both are inherently saying something. Either they're both political or neither are.


[19-Jul-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Chancellor Neighsay


[19-Jul-20 04:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Chancellor Neighsay was a fascist, MLP said fascists are cringe and they should learn and do better


[19-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The show even built that up as far back as season 2, remember


[19-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The pony tribes used to hate each other.


[19-Jul-20 04:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yup.


[19-Jul-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
There is some humor in the fact that racism was cringe to even _Cozy Glow_


[19-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Chancellor Neighsay, if he had lived back then, would be a *unicorn* supremacist, not a pony supremacist.


[19-Jul-20 04:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, people really do be acting like s8 and s9 were terrible and political because they simply preached the previous messages that **always were in the show** that were a bit more subtle in the past


[19-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The idea of "ponies" as a unified people would have been absurd back then.


[19-Jul-20 04:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
like yes, some eps were hit and miss, but some were fuckin awesome, love me some trixieglim eps


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
```The pony tribes used to hate each other.```


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
:golly:


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
but like, people forget earlier seasons with bad eps easily lol


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Starlight's friendship with Trixie was the best thing to happen to Starlight's development, I think


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Twilight not liking it especially


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
they stopped at the threat of extinction.


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was a little mixed on that.


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, their dynamic together is so damn good, and twilight not ever liking it but learning to accept it is good ass writing imo


[19-Jul-20 04:24 AM] byte[]#2610
And then Trixie getting vored onstage, :lul:


[19-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
that's literally how much it took to work them together. Not just the threat, the sure promise of extinction.


[19-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I felt like Twilight ended "Magic Duel" on good terms with Trixie so seeing her distrustful of her again is a little weird. But eh, it's a minor quibble


[19-Jul-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
"good terms"


[19-Jul-20 04:25 AM] byte[]#2610
it was about as good terms as AJ is with Flim/Flam...


[19-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a stronger lesson than most others in the show :D


[19-Jul-20 04:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, 'good terms' doesn't mean you forget what they've done to you and others in the past, it's important to hold others accountable for their past while accepting they may have improved


[19-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that's honestly fair


[19-Jul-20 04:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
the lesson I think twilight teaches there, is that, if you've hurt someone plenty in the past you shouldn't expect forgiveness to mean they'll like or trust you, because you still did do those things and hurt people.


[19-Jul-20 04:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
forgiving doesn't mean that everyone is obligated to forget


[19-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Opponent#3498
that eternal winter extinction thing is also why a world war or any large scale conflict is likely out of question. It's a naturally-enforced MAD.


[19-Jul-20 04:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
starlight herself is constantly haunted by her past, and echoes it herself uncomfortably, almost as a way to ensure she's reminded and doesn't repeat the same mistakes (even if she does, to a lesser extent by being a huge control freak)


[19-Jul-20 04:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
twilight's writing later on is a bit weird ill fully admit lol, almost as if she's regressed a bit from her lessons, but at the same time she has piles of responsibility crushing her more and more all the time


[19-Jul-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
they keep trying to exaggerate their character traits


[19-Jul-20 04:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
but like, I think what's important with both starlight and trixie is they're shown to still be learning


[19-Jul-20 04:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
I think it's because all of the mane 6 that had their core problems 'resolved' were beginning to feel 'boring'


[19-Jul-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
so it's poor writing to keep them 'fun and quirky' idk


[19-Jul-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
you can have realistic conflicts without making the characters act like idiots


[19-Jul-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
like both trixie's and starlights flaws work really well, but emphasizing say twilight's twilighting is cringe and overrwritten


[19-Jul-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
like damn twilight, get therapy lol


[19-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Starlight is also one of the few villains who explicitly believed herself to be benevolent as well. What she did was wrong, but it's still more nuanced than the typical "absolute power, eternal night/chaos/whatever" motivations of most seasons' big bads. She genuinely believed she was helping people and serving the greater good, which is a lot more realistic since most real-life bad guys do usually think they're morally in the right.


[19-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah and then they make that wreck a sole ruler, without her team that made her half-way functional :derpchrys:


[19-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
in the end I straight up reject finale. Fuck it, it never happened.


[19-Jul-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
trollestia


[19-Jul-20 04:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, and starlight's flaws still showing at least to some degree through to the end long after redemption or even her catching herself being flawed later on, like, it shows that learning to be a good friend is process, it's not something you just poof your way into, it's addressing specific things one at a time


[19-Jul-20 04:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
and even like, pointing out your toxic thinking at yourself being like 'did I really just do/think that?'


[19-Jul-20 04:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
being able to be self aware even when you're being shit and apologizing, ect


[19-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't really like the way the final villains were handled. It just thematically feels out of step with the show's broader messages, especially since it seemed like they were telegraphing them actually learning and having the potential to become friends.

I understand not every villain can or should be redeemed, but one of them is a literal child.


[19-Jul-20 04:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
people definitely shit on the later seasons too much, they have a lot of awesome shit going for them, it's just different, they also have a lot of flaws, but I don't really see them as inherently any more flawed than earlier seasons, none were exactly perfection.

But yeah, the finale villain handling was shit even if I liked the adorable epilogue n stuff and LONG TWILIGHT lmao, she so LONG, LEMGTHY, hehehe


[19-Jul-20 04:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
the songs were bangers too


[19-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This has implications

Celestia and Luna probably looked like normal ponies in the past.


[19-Jul-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
like yes, there's the re-occurring villians that refused to do anything to improve for years and years, and only lusted for revenge and power, but like, cozy glow is a kid even if she's shitty, reforming might take years, but you'd think that twilight and the others would commit to that, the rest are grown ass old ass adults that had pretty much infinite chances


[19-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, exactly


[19-Jul-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
definitely very out of character to condemn her permanently


[19-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess it's not permanent if Discord's imprisonment wasn't.


[19-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They could wake up hundreds of years in the future when everyone they ever knew has died, but hey, they get a chance at redemption!


[19-Jul-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
sure, nopony gonna trust her for a VERY long time, but reaching out a hand of friendship and compassion would go a long way long-term


[19-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which honestly might be better. Fresh start with people who don't necessarily vividly remember you.


[19-Jul-20 04:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
the fucked part of cozy glow is she clearly knew the friendship lessons, how to manipulate ponies using them and guard from any suspicion


[19-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We know the least *about* her of the three villains too. Chrysalis had her hive. Tirek had his brother and (from the comics) King Vorak, who at least got namedropped in the show.

But Cozy has no known parents or origin story at all. What *made* her the way that she is?


[19-Jul-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
:golly:


[19-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
Cozy Glow is literally memetic cancer of pony race imo.


[19-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. She knew the lessons. She was also capable enough to abuse them. And teach others she might need.


[19-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
she's more of a threat than probably anyone else but Tirek. Stone was quite tame tbh.


[19-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like Chrysalis *could* honestly learn her lesson since she seemed the most materially-motivated before she became obsessed with revenge. 

She literally needs love. Accepting friendship is free food forever.


[19-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah she's fixated on that 'predator must pred' thing.


[19-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
it's surmountable, like most misgivings.


[19-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
re: Cozy, it's also not a guarantee that she's a pony. Yeah, it's a pony shell, but the mind inside is completely alien. On the off-chance it's not, killing her might be a horrible idea - the creature might return in a different form, and try again unchecked.


[19-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
the stone is proven to contain Discord. It _should_ be good enough.


[19-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
#shows-and-spoilers


[19-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Opponent#3498
I think we're done here anyway.


[19-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that we have a self-aware AI that's self-aware of its self-awareness


[19-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Crow#5457
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenAI#GPT-3>


[19-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
it's a language model, so it's not in control of nuclear weapons or whatnot


[19-Jul-20 12:27 PM] Opponent#3498
language model in the age of global information wars. Heh, modern solution for modern problems


[19-Jul-20 12:29 PM] Opponent#3498
but in seriousness, if it's legit, this is #futureishere right there.


[19-Jul-20 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess it's easy to forget that just because most of the technology stagnates, there aren't things that progress _rapidly_. This is one of them.


[19-Jul-20 02:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[19-Jul-20 02:01 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Wtf


[19-Jul-20 02:03 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Does this mean a 5G antenna costs less than 0.5 dollars in America?


[19-Jul-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
apparently :wheeze:


[19-Jul-20 02:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We should have predicted this would happen and used reverse-psychology to get the conspiracy types to wear the masks.

"These masks will protect you from *Obama-era* facial recognition surveillance"

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[19-Jul-20 02:21 PM] Synfag#9241

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[19-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
lmao


[19-Jul-20 04:42 PM] ononim#8141
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[19-Jul-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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DHS Under Boss: We're Taking This National
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[19-Jul-20 05:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently Barr's brownshirts are expanding their activities, how eerie


[19-Jul-20 06:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Jul-20 07:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1284816646104928256?s=21 kill me

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[19-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Sunnyside#3103
do you not want a great america?


[19-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait, America was great? What happened to it?


[19-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
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[19-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Crow#5457
fun fact: when people say "make america great again", it seems the general consensus of the last time america was "great" was in 1963, before the civil rights acts


[19-Jul-20 07:27 PM] wren#0114
🎣


[19-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Crow#5457
https://medium.com/discourse/1963-the-last-year-america-was-great-8a877b9e5724

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1963: The last year America was ‘great’
Conservatives know exactly what point in time they want to go back to—but most are afraid to say it.
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[19-Jul-20 07:29 PM] wren#0114
are you implying that people who want to reform, using the statement "make america great again", want civil rights reversed?


[19-Jul-20 07:29 PM] Sunnyside#3103
actually people look nostalgically at 1963 as it was before the riots, before nam, before the deaths of presidents and mlk. the space race was on going and things were looking great. we did after all make russia blink in the cuban missile crisis


[19-Jul-20 07:30 PM] Crow#5457
> To parse the meaning of a dog whistle, one only needs to look at how the dogs react. While mainstream conservatives studiously avoid pinpointing exactly when America was great, white nationalists have no such qualms.


[19-Jul-20 07:30 PM] wren#0114
there's stuff idealized about 1950s for sure, but I don't know anyone who wants to return to that point in civil rights


[19-Jul-20 07:30 PM] wren#0114
other than actual super far right, but they tend to hate america in general and want it torn down, not reformed


[19-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Sunnyside#3103
they don't pinpoint when america is great because everyone has a different idea of when that was crow.


[19-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
for example i see it as 1999
while others would lable the 1980s
and others still the mid 1960s
and so on


[19-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
that's what the article is about


[19-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
pushing conservative to pinpoint a specific time


[19-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but they shouldn't nor do i expect them to


[19-Jul-20 07:32 PM] wren#0114
bait tbh


[19-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
asking people to specify a time when america was great is the only way to make america great again


[19-Jul-20 07:33 PM] wren#0114
it's not a literal "let's return to a specific year and implement exactly the policies of that year". It's about governmental reform


[19-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
because if people can't agree on a specific time that america was great, there is no way to make america great again


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
america was always great tbqhfam


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
:dab:


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i disagree. what people really want is a the spirit of Americanism back. not a specific time period.


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
which begs the question: was america was ever great?


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
Yes.


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] PwnyPony#6185
then when?


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
since it's founding


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
I'm sick of being told America sucks.


[19-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's not when it's what.


[19-Jul-20 07:35 PM] PwnyPony#6185
ok. what changed?


[19-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Sunnyside#3103
me too wren


[19-Jul-20 07:35 PM] wren#0114
senate became directly elected instead of state-legislature elected


[19-Jul-20 07:36 PM] wren#0114
let's go back to prohibition


[19-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
socialism, social unrest, political and economic corruption, removal of liberties and rights, dissolution of faith and culture and so on.


[19-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Sunnyside#3103
all these things people point to as what made america fall from greatness


[19-Jul-20 07:38 PM] PwnyPony#6185
and when did those things happen?


[19-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
people point to different times but in all honestly this stuff has been slowly creeping in for decades now


[19-Jul-20 07:39 PM] wren#0114
"make america great again" movement carries the sentiments of reducing dependence on foreign economic entities, reducing the entrenchment of lobbyists in federal government, reducing federal overreach and returning to state and local self-governing as much as possible, returning to loving the Constitution and teaching the good things about it instead of tearing it down always


[19-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
^


[19-Jul-20 07:39 PM] wren#0114
it's not about returning to a specific year


[19-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Sunnyside#3103
exactly


[19-Jul-20 07:40 PM] wren#0114
and these goals can be fought for alongside continuing civil rights progress


[19-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
lobbyists have been entrenched in the federal government since before the civil war


[19-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Sunnyside#3103
mhm


[19-Jul-20 07:41 PM] wren#0114
yes and it sucks


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
some of those lobbyists were in favor of pushing for a civil war


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
we currently have a nascent secret police force shitting on any concept of states' rights atm


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] wren#0114
international banking is also a big part of this, and has been entrenched since before the civil war too


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
if trump's goal is to make america great again, he failed horribly at it


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] wren#0114
the barr goonies?


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] wren#0114
I hate that.


[19-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's your opinion crow


[19-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Sunnyside#3103
personally i see it as a mixed bag


[19-Jul-20 07:43 PM] wren#0114
If a federal intervention is necessary against a treason movement, it should not hide behind secret policing. It should be proper military or feds, and identifiable and accountable to the public.


[19-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
more people have died under this president than any other president, he's rolled back regulations specifically to line the pockets of himself and anyone who's smart enough to know how to manipulate him, and he's weakened the US internationally


[19-Jul-20 07:44 PM] wren#0114
more people died?


[19-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Crow#5457
coronavirus


[19-Jul-20 07:45 PM] wren#0114
I don't think anyone is supporting trump here in these things lol


[19-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Crow#5457
there's been tiny things he's fixed, but by most objective measures of "success", trump has been terrible for america


[19-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Sunnyside#3103
lot's of people have died everywhere crow.
there's mass graves in china
and overfilled morges in itally
it's no different here than anywhere else


[19-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Sunnyside#3103
plus there's been tons of people hurt and even killed in these never ending riots


[19-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Crow#5457
there's been 603k deaths world wide, 142k of those are in the US


[19-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
```asking people to specify a time when america was great is the only way to make america great again```
I actually agree if for different reasons. There's fuck all substance to MAGA slogan. It's not a dogwhistle, it's a feelsgood empty line.


[19-Jul-20 07:46 PM] wren#0114
For one thing, the establishment is so entrenched that a single president alone likely wouldn't be able to fix all the things. However, also trump has done a lot of things that are haphazard and not accomplishing the things he was elected for.


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
there's nothing behind it. Someone invented it and it tested well with target groups. The end.


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
that's the official number crow.
the real numbers are probably higher


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
we know plenty of countires have been altering the amounts


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
and that's a _fucking problem_, I would say. When you vote for someone with no real idea what's going on past personal enrichment.


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Crow#5457
that's an incredibly bad faith argument, are you sure you want to continue along those lines?


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what is bad faith?


[19-Jul-20 07:47 PM] wren#0114
but if you ask most maga people about those things I mentioned, I am fairly certain they would agree


[19-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
saying that everyone "fudges the numbers" to claim that it's worse elsewhere than it is in the US


[19-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Sunnyside#3103
but it's true?


[19-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
prove it


[19-Jul-20 07:48 PM] wren#0114
the US most definitely flubbed control of the virus


[19-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
THAT is the crux of bad faith


[19-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
look we know china froze the amounts for awhile an have more or less halted most testing
we know germany has halted most testing too


[19-Jul-20 07:49 PM] wren#0114
personally I found it alarming that trump was so stubborn about masks for so long that it became a political statement itself instead of a health measure


[19-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
it disregards a position or evidence entirely by claiming it's fake or somehow manipulated


[19-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
instead of attempting to prove the position or evidence wrong


[19-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Sunnyside#3103
both of those things were talked about months ago


[19-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Sunnyside#3103
can you prove china has not fudged the numbers?


[19-Jul-20 07:50 PM] wren#0114
*cough*


[19-Jul-20 07:50 PM] wren#0114
b8


[19-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
proving non-existence is a fallacy


[19-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
which is also bad faith


[19-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Proving-Non-Existence


[19-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Crow#5457
and no, I want you to link me some evidence that all the numbers worldwide are all fudged, which was the claim you made


[19-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
what i'm talking about is not in bad faith


[19-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it really happened and heck i think it was even discussed here at the time


[19-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200608/Cremation-numbers-reveal-possible-suppression-of-true-COVID-19-data-in-China.aspx

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A potentially explosive new study published on the preprint server medRxiv in June 2020 suggests that the official Chinese statistics on COVID-19 cases or mortality are neither reliable nor credible. If true, such unreliable data during a crucial period of the pandemic in Febr...
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[19-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence


[19-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, it's known that china has likely messed with the numbers


[19-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Crow#5457
but the rest of the world as well?


[19-Jul-20 07:53 PM] Sunnyside#3103
okay so now you are jerking my chain


[19-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
no, it was a test


[19-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
have a real conversation


[19-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
I wanted to see if you could link evidence of a claim you made, you only linked partial evidence


[19-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Sunnyside#3103
don't do lame "tests"


[19-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
I'm trying to teach you what a good faith argument is


[19-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
since you constantly make bad faith arguments in this channel


[19-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i'm not going to waste my time here.
look if china did it so have other places
you don't think places like brazil hasn't done it or iraq or iran or egypt?


[19-Jul-20 07:55 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK has been trying to fudge the numbers but independent groups doing counting keep catching them. Chile was counting deaths as recovered cases. Brazil is not counting as well as they should. China probably has a bunch of people too scared to admit they have it.


[19-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Sunnyside#3103
or even other nation states


[19-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence


[19-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Sunnyside#3103
it's called supposition


[19-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
yes, democracies are very bad at suppressing/hiding information because everything is too free


[19-Jul-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
and satellites make it pretty much impossible to hide anything anymore


[19-Jul-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
yes, and supposing that every nation on the planet is fudging the numbers because one nation is doing so is illogical


[19-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
and @Sunnyside, even the numbers in that article you linked shows that there would be a 1% increase in the total number of global deaths


[19-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
which is not nearly enough to throw off the massive 25% of the total deaths that the US has


[19-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Sunnyside#3103
i nver said every nations but probably a significant number of them are either underreporting them or overreporting them


[19-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
overreporting would only make the US look better, and the chance that there's so much underreporting going on that it shakes the US's absurdly high percentage of the deaths (the rate of which is increasing again!) is extremely unlikely


[19-Jul-20 08:10 PM] Crow#5457
and once again @Sunnyside, there is no evidence of your claim


[19-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://observatoryihr.org/news/china-russia-brazil-and-the-underreporting-of-covid-19-cases/

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China, Russia, Brazil and the underreporting of Covid-19 cases
At the end of April, national security officials in London and Washington said they believed China was underreporting the true levels of deaths from Covid-19. It followed after officials in Wuhan raised the death toll from Covid-19 by 50 per cent overnight on 17 April. They sa...
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[19-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
3 nations is not even close to a "significant number" of nations


[19-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
that's 1.54% of the total number of nations


[19-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/16/891997539/georgia-hospital-worker-sounds-alarm-i-have-never-ever-seen-anything-like-this

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Georgia Hospital Worker Sounds Alarm: 'I Have Never Ever Seen Anyth...
Coronavirus patients "were lined up along the walls in the ER," said a Georgia health care worker. "We never have had an influx like that. Since the Fourth of July, it has just exploded."
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[19-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Crow#5457
it begins


[19-Jul-20 08:41 PM] illumnious#7938
> Wait, America was great? What happened to it?
@Эᴚ|∫  hell


[19-Jul-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hell and a terrifying amount of elderly spite


[19-Jul-20 09:06 PM] byte[]#2610
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'It's going to disappear, and I'll be right,' Mr Trump says
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[19-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
titanic brainpower right there


[19-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
. https://imgur.com/V9NPZKB

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[19-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
sound


[19-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
also neat, found a workaround to the hidden URLs


[19-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
virgin police vs the chad navy sailor


[19-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Respect to that dude


[19-Jul-20 09:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
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[19-Jul-20 09:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/trump-election-rigged-da605666-7a05-4633-b216-d7adcfefa97e.html

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Trump declines to say he'll accept results of election: "I have to ...
"I'm not a good loser. I don't like to lose. I don't lose too often."
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[19-Jul-20 10:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whether he wins or loses he'll probably get more aggressive after november 3rd


[19-Jul-20 10:12 PM] jlun2#8758
i wonder if anyone will stop him if he proclaims himself as eternal king


[19-Jul-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly i'm more surprised that he hasnt openly on air asked if we can just nuke the virus


[19-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta save the nukes for traitor liberals


[19-Jul-20 10:15 PM] jlun2#8758
no one let me joins the liberal hivemind :ts_cry: :chryslaugh:

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[19-Jul-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/colorado-governor-jared-polis-says-no-mask-no-service-2020-7

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Local businesses in Colorado can call law enforcement on mask-less individuals for trespassing, Colorado Governor Jared Polis said Sunday.
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[19-Jul-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Well..no duh?

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[19-Jul-20 10:24 PM] jimm#1439
sad how reddit is so controlled by china


[19-Jul-20 10:25 PM] jimm#1439
permanently banned from asksciencediscussion just for linking to this PDF/summary https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23875758

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The evidence which suggests that Covid-19 is not a naturally evolved virus [pdf]
Hacker News


[19-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
As I've said before, this doesn't really prove anything.


[19-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
A thing was created to study what was there


[19-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
it studied particular things that could happen with what was there, possibly based on what already happened


[19-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then the thing there started doing exactly what was feared.


[19-Jul-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
The proper conclusion is not "the thing must've escaped containment during study, because it's just like what was being studied!"


[19-Jul-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's much more likely that like, China was trying to prevent things somewhat secretly (not revealing the research being done was based on actual observation of the virus in the wild) and then failed.


[19-Jul-20 10:28 PM] jimm#1439
either way those mods have inspired me to spread it far and wide to spite them


[19-Jul-20 10:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Or you could take a moment to consider that it's not a good idea to spread bad probabilistic assumptions.


[19-Jul-20 10:30 PM] jimm#1439
blood's on their hands if it's wrong then. the paper doesn't seem crazy to me.


[19-Jul-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
So someone took action against you that you don't like, therefore they are responsible for anything you've done?


[19-Jul-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
That logic seems pretty horrible to me.


[19-Jul-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
I would say it is your personal responsibility to stop and think about the probabilities and such here and whether you are doing something bad.


[19-Jul-20 10:57 PM] jimm#1439
guess I care more about personal spite than goodwill towards humanity. if society had been better to me maybe things would have been different


[19-Jul-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[19-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Synfag#9241
https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/woman-fatally-shot-after-asking-man-to-stop-setting-off-fireworks/?fbclid=IwAR1liqA-LVihxSG_KtPv6DFwmn9NRhYc2MTqRGLwYvEL0pCT2li5iKstJm8

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Woman fatally shot after asking man to stop setting off fireworks
A Brooklyn woman was gunned down when she confronted a man setting off illegal fireworks, police sources said Saturday. Shatavia Walls, 33, who was peppered with gunfire July 7 after asking the man…
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[20-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@jimm it's less about china and more about reddit just being terrible now


[20-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Now


[20-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When was it good?


[20-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Years ago it was pretty alright


[20-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
The wild west where you could post just about anything and moderation wasn't heavily based on curating content and avoiding angering the wrath of admins


[20-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Defaults have always been trash but that's another story


[20-Jul-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/drunk-uncle-trump-is-melting-down-live-on-television

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Drunk Uncle Trump Is Melting Down, Live on Television
This isn’t a presidential campaign ready to suddenly emerge with a cadre of competent adults in the room. It isn’t a campaign ready to convert from distress to comeback.
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[20-Jul-20 12:29 AM] illumnious#7938
Nigga’s drunk

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[20-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Jul-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious :sosmol: 🤏


[20-Jul-20 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Itsthinking ambiguous take


[20-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`After the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 was passed, she helped guide fugitives farther north into British North America (Canada), and helped newly freed slaves find work. Tubman met John Brown in 1858, and helped him plan and recruit supporters for his 1859 raid on Harpers Ferry. `


[20-Jul-20 03:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[20-Jul-20 03:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
What the actual fuck?


[20-Jul-20 03:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
"SORRY NAZIS CAN'T CARE FOR ANIMALS"
Why would they block this? It was all going to a good cause.


[20-Jul-20 03:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I too speculate about everything and assume the slightest inconvenience is due to moral panic on behalf of someone else


[20-Jul-20 03:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[20-Jul-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
you should wait until the organizers make a statement


[20-Jul-20 03:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think Datte still has the money. Ejunkie was just the middle man.


[20-Jul-20 03:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
A good /mlp/ post:
`"Just for the sake of everyone's sanity: Unless someone come out as having reported the pack or E-Junkie confirms having received report we don't know for sure that the art pack was canceled by SJFs. Don't stoop to their level; innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. It is very possible that that the suspension was done by E-Junkie alone after monitoring the goods sold on their platform and determining that the art pack breached their ToS. In which case E-Junkie are the horse hating scum.

My paycheck is rolling in soon. Horses gon' get fed."`
Eh, good point.


[20-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
My guess is that the ToS part hit was about "Nazi memorabilia", which I don't think covers digital artwork (it refers to physical objects as collectibles).


[20-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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Rapper Kanye West on Sunday said renowned abolitionist and activist Harriet Tubman “never actually freed the slaves, she just had them work for other white people” during a freewheeling campaign rally in South Carolina.
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[20-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`“Freedom does not come from an election. The freedom comes from you not loading up the pornography. The freedom comes from you not taking the Percocet,” West reportedly said.`


[20-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
according to boomers freedom means "you can't tell me what to do"


[20-Jul-20 04:14 AM] jimm#1439
that does evoke the concept, yes


[20-Jul-20 04:15 AM] THG#7415
An inspiring message

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[20-Jul-20 04:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, the anglos really do be genociding themselves
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[20-Jul-20 04:30 AM] jlun2#8758
> The freedom comes from you not loading up the pornography.
:roseconfused:
so my horse porn means i support slavery? the hell?


[20-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://satwcomic.com/you-get-some-dignity-and-you-get-some-dignity

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YOU get some dignity and YOU get some dignity - Scandinavia and the...
Webcomic: Finland explained himself in the comic, but in 2010 Denmark started giving heroine to drug addicts for free and it was such a huge
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[20-Jul-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
i would love to live through a time where that happens in US
likely wont tho :sadface:


[20-Jul-20 05:16 AM] wren#0114
obligatory

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[20-Jul-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
xd laywers bad


[20-Jul-20 05:19 AM] illumnious#7938
:ts_cry:


[20-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wasn't Mayor Mare surrounded by clearly lawyerpones in an episode


[20-Jul-20 05:52 AM] wren#0114
more likely beaurocrats


[20-Jul-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Did someone here post a cap of my post to /mlp/?


[20-Jul-20 05:52 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[20-Jul-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618480411273723950/734606170399965214/unknown.png
Now I'm seeing it again.

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[20-Jul-20 05:54 AM] wren#0114
this channel has been screencap city for the last month


[20-Jul-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
I paraphrased that post from another guy. Not even sure if it's accurate.


[20-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I always find it amusing when people cap me saying something because they can't go and find the basic info themselves.


[20-Jul-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's kind of what I'm thinking.
I'm really just a random guy. My posts don't hold any weight by themselves.


[20-Jul-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
May as well have just copy-pasted the words. That's what I did.
It's a screencap of me quiting someone from another server.


[20-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is the money getting to horses or not


[20-Jul-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
It is


[20-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cool


[20-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Money for charity is money for charity.


[20-Jul-20 06:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
Looks like there's going to be premium oats tonight.


[20-Jul-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
luis f rivera, uhhh


[20-Jul-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
a person by that name was my COE 447 professor


[20-Jul-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
what if it's the same guy


[20-Jul-20 06:10 AM] jlun2#8758
ask your prof whats their fav pony


[20-Jul-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
he did have a neckbeard


[20-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Oh shid


[20-Jul-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and a fedora


[20-Jul-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
and he was really fat


[20-Jul-20 06:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
Deleting because idk if I was supposed to share that email.


[20-Jul-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
literally just walking from one end of the classroom to the other winded him


[20-Jul-20 06:12 AM] jlun2#8758
prob screencapped to death


[20-Jul-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
If it is him, I was not aware he was into ponies


[20-Jul-20 06:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[20-Jul-20 06:38 AM] jlun2#8758
porn will be illegal in 2021
black market for mlp


[20-Jul-20 06:38 AM] illumnious#7938
F


[20-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Opponent#3498
here's a hot take prediction


[20-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/dethbox/status/1284993039136686081

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teef for two (@dethbox)
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Really needed this meme for a conversation a few weeks back.
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[20-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
5 years from now, the 'stick it to the West' strategy in Russia takes form of accepting any and all art and other forms of expression, cause by than this shit is way dead in the West, the market's open and free positive PR just waits to be generated.


[20-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Pontology#1010
>nazi memorabilia banned

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[20-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Pontology#1010
I collect coins. Why would they ban coin collectors from collecting historical coins?


[20-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Nazi-scare is so dumb.


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Opponent#3498
simple


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.e-junkie.com/wiki/terms

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These Terms of Service comprise a legal agreement between You and Sine Info Ventures Pvt. Ltd. and governs Your use of E-junkie. PLEASE READ THIS DOCUMENT CAREFULLY BEFORE ACCESSING OR USING THE SITE. BY ACCESSING OR USING THE SITE, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND THESE TERMS OF SERVICE...
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[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, I read it. That's what I'm referring to.


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent & then russia goes 🏳️‍🌈 :glowing_eyes:


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Opponent#3498
the guys who would confiscate the collection also collect coins :twismug:  And they'd like a tiny teeny bit of discount.


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] wren#0114
>you touched actual real life blood money
I hope you can sleep at night


[20-Jul-20 06:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
I see what you did there.


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
> You may not use E-junkie to, nor use any products or services provided through or in connection with E-junkie to, nor provide any products or services through or in connection with E-junkie to sell, offer to sell, distribute, promote, facilitate, disseminate or link to any sites for marketing, sales, promotion, facilitation or distribution of: ... Nazi memorabilia...


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent it's already started.


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] jlun2#8758
seriously if that happens & russia somehow unintentionally becomes social liberal ill laugh


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
yes, that's what I'm referring to


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] wren#0114
how would original art be considered memorabilia


[20-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Pontology#1010
For the third time, I am commenting on that passage you have quoted.


[20-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a woman who runs an operation dedicated to freely distributing scientific papers


[20-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
she's in Russia.


[20-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, just because you have doesn't mean everyone else has seen it


[20-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, Russia let in Snowden out of spite.


[20-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Putin weren't trying so hard with stuff like crakking down on gays and Jehovah's witnesses, Russia would very quikkly be eyeing up some "freedom of speech" thing to use to go "well we actually practice it, US, these beatings in the street are a coincidence"


[20-Jul-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
so is russia going to make women more powerful to spite US?


[20-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It did that in the cold war.


[20-Jul-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
like even more than now?


[20-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, once Putin's dead, Russia might become a weird bastion of say whet you want.


[20-Jul-20 06:51 AM] jlun2#8758
> Putin's dead
i hate how all those med articles made me think it'll never happen
eg. https://channels.theinnovationenterprise.com/articles/generation-z-the-first-immortal-generation

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Researchers and investors are racing into Life Extension en masse creating a new Era of Medicine which may well ultimately see the human race become Immortal
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[20-Jul-20 06:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
Imagine a future where Putin is a thousand year old genetic vampire.


[20-Jul-20 06:54 AM] jlun2#8758
yes like that


[20-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Crow#5457
trump right now


[20-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Right now"


[20-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
"Wait, it's been Trump all along?"


[20-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
"Always has been."


[20-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Synfag#9241

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[20-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The left part of that is a 2004 creation, not an actual ad.


[20-Jul-20 07:33 AM] wren#0114
wouldn't it have been fanta


[20-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And they messed up the spelling.


[20-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's supposed to be an umlaut over the a in Getrank.


[20-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also it reads...modernly, for English.


[20-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The folk the party the drink, really?

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[20-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's shit some idiot in the 90s puts on a bus.


[20-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
30s ads were more like YOU'LL DRINK BETTER WITH A COKE!


[20-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
They actually used this thing called grammar and complete sentences.


[20-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This reminds me of that fake "Coke Dome of the Rock" ad that circulated in the early 2000s


[20-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, to my understanding, the Nazis didn't like overusing swastikas.


[20-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, it was their flag, they weren't gonna put it on *everything*, they weren't Americans.

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[20-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sometimes they were more on the nose and just used skulls!


[20-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the actual ads they did use https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/fbd0097fe9401f752367f0ebe279ed39.jpg

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[20-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Serenity#9645
german fanta is far superior


[20-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
http://www.historyanswers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Coca-Cola-Advertisements-in-Nazi-Germany-in-the-1930s-8.jpg

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[20-Jul-20 07:45 AM] wren#0114
trink


[20-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nazi Germany would have never allowed their motto to be used by a foreign company to sell soda


[20-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How did people ever think that was real


[20-Jul-20 07:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
my real question is if it is called orange soda because of the color or because it tastes like oranges?


[20-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[20-Jul-20 07:51 AM] wren#0114

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[20-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Crow#5457
lmao, they have tiny squeaky pig toys in portland now https://clips.twitch.tv/LachrymoseFunSnakeVoteNay

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[20-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Damn, look at that turnout. I'm glad people aren't being deterred by the feds' recent actions.


[20-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
the spiritual successor of Scabby the inflatable rat?


[20-Jul-20 08:00 AM] Serenity#9645
@aperture_tech in germany it is a orange juice flavored soda, it legitimately almost replaceable with orange juice ive mixed many of screwdrivers with it and its less acidic then orange juice so i think its great. but in the us it has so much sugar and corn syrup that its practically undrinkable to me


[20-Jul-20 08:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
okay but is it called orange based on the flavor or the color


[20-Jul-20 08:01 AM] wren#0114

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[20-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Opponent#3498
it's called orange because it tested well with the focus groups :twismug:


[20-Jul-20 08:01 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/us/federal-judge-esther-salas-shooting-investigation/index.html

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[20-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently someone went to the home of an obama-appointed federal judge and shot and killed her son and injured her husband


[20-Jul-20 08:03 AM] Serenity#9645
what was the motive? ongoing riots, trump fanatic, or personal affairs?


[20-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
New Jersey would indicate one of the latter two.


[20-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very little is happening there recently.


[20-Jul-20 08:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the motive has to do with epstein


[20-Jul-20 08:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no fucking lie, they are just ripping off the hitman games because the elites thought it was funny


[20-Jul-20 08:06 AM] Serenity#9645
theres still riots happening in NJ, from people that live there. just not portland levels of 50 days in hell


[20-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If it is motivated by that, that's cuckoo conspiracy territory. Not everyone who's ever been in the same room as Epstein was in on his crimes. Looking at pictures and vague associations of people on either side isn't proof of anything, and it's only going to get (or already has gotten, if aperture's right) people hurt.


[20-Jul-20 08:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think some very powerful people would be implicated by the kind of shit epstein pulled


[20-Jul-20 08:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The whole suicide thing was a practical joke pulled by the elites


[20-Jul-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's probably someone mad at a ruling.


[20-Jul-20 08:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What Epstein did was real and criminal, but I feel like the attempts to keep tying unrelated people to him is pizzagate-level fearmongering.


[20-Jul-20 08:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Nobody was fooled by that bullshit


[20-Jul-20 08:10 AM] Serenity#9645
i can see that


[20-Jul-20 08:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
He was so damn connected, that anything might be possible, and the issue is there is still no justice


[20-Jul-20 08:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
Qbrain time


[20-Jul-20 08:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
Qbrainworms.
can't wait for Q to be rightfully labelled a batshit terrorist org.


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine believing anything on /b/


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Q is just conspiracy boomers


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I understand that, but our justice system isn't founded on what might be possible. Lots of things could happen, but that doesn't mean they did. Not without evidence.

And again, I'm talking about both sides. Whether you're trying to tie Biden or Trump or anyone else to Epstein, if it's just because they knew each other and there's no proof beyond that, it's irresponsible conspiracy-peddling.


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
How the hell are they terrorists


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Q people full on wanna kill people lol


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
conspiracy theories rely on people able to keep secrets and coordinate well.


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
hence, basicly all of them are impossible in practice.


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which our government has proven repeatedly incapable of doing.


[20-Jul-20 08:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Are they actually killing people? Let them be schizos, who cares?


[20-Jul-20 08:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's more that they literally take random 4chan shitposters as gospel truth, which is potentially dangerous


[20-Jul-20 08:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
hell, pizzagate roadtrip dude was ready to shoot people forever ago


[20-Jul-20 08:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Nah I just laugh at people who take the internet for real


[20-Jul-20 08:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I suffer not the mentally ill people on the internet


[20-Jul-20 08:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
I laugh at them, but people this batshit don't deserve guns lol


[20-Jul-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The conspiracy theorists still - directly and indirectly - incites real violence. Like the shooting at Comet Ping Pong. You keep saying "that pizza parlor rapes kids" long enough and some "hero" is going to step up to stop the supposed child-rapists.


[20-Jul-20 08:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I own guns and can shoot better than the mentally insane, so I don't really care about em


[20-Jul-20 08:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
If I get shot and die, then I die, it's not a big deal to me tbh

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[20-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, it sounds like you're not worried about being personally harmed by them. Not that you have much concern over them harming other people?


[20-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Why would they even go after you? You're not well-known or the subject of any conspiracy theories.


[20-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If you are, a target's on your back for crazy people.


[20-Jul-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-chris-wallace-to-trump-cognitive-exam-not-the-hardest-test-involves-identifying-an-elephant

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“The first few questions are easy, but I’ll bet you couldn’t even answer the last five questions,” Trump proclaimed. “I’ll bet you couldn’t, they get very hard.”
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[20-Jul-20 08:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm just saying I'm not worried about em


[20-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I swear Trump wasn't always this dumb.


[20-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He didn't say stupid shit like this all the time a couple of decades ago, did he?


[20-Jul-20 08:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's like I'm watching a real-life person's character get flanderized.


[20-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did.


[20-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, early-season Trump was kind of a douche but not overtly idiotic. Late-season Trump just keeps saying ridiculous bullshit constantly.


[20-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
When they were filming things like The Apprentice, they would do several reshoots for key scenes


[20-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump would often giv completely different rationales each time.


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It made very little sense, but with enuff editing, they could take the best bits and create something that "felt" right.


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] byte[]#2610
I do think he is getting worse


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Huh, I guess that makes sense honestly. Before his presidential run we saw a much more scripted, sterilized version of Trump.


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] byte[]#2610
The problem is, it's hard to tell, because he's always been so bad


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is also known for lying extremely compulsively.


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean not everything in the news articles are always framed correctly enless you actually hear the whole speech i cant read anything with trump in the headline without actually going and watching it because of more "i dont care about science do it!" style "reporting"


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well. Even when Obama was in office, he started to get openly unhinged.


[20-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
In information about his properties, he often makes such wild exaggerations as to greatly inflate the floor number, which is visible from the outside.


[20-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's actually been analyzed as to the point where, despite the law saying these statements need to be factual, he might not be liable for them being wrong because nobody in their right mind would believe them to be true.


[20-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see.


[20-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly yeah

I have to remember I grew up with a pre-internet Trump. He didn't always have the megaphone he has now. It's not that he wasn't dumb back then, it's just that he rarely had a large public venue to voice his insane opinions


[20-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
One weird thing related to this is that he has a cabinet full of over the counter flu medicine


[20-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sudafed, the UK version, IIRC, to be precise.


[20-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, it *used to* be usable as a stimulant.


[20-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that hasn't been the case for a long time.


[20-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So it is implied from him having a cabinet full of it that he is regularly taking it to get high...and doesn't know it doesn't work anymore.


[20-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh no


[20-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Serenity#9645
https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1283888744785940481 i dont care much about the subject matter or think its completely wrong or right in different lenses but its just wierd seeing this type of blatant lying and everyone running with it

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They’re lying to you.

Media outlets & personalities (+ other left-wingers) maliciously took a @PressSec quote out of context (full below) to fraudulently make it sound like she didn’t care about the science she went on to explain supports the move to reopen schools.

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[20-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Serenity#9645
its a long thread if you wanna see all the sources


[20-Jul-20 08:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Saying trump is dumb is pretty reductive of what he's actually doing. I'm not claiming he's playing 4d chess or whatever, but he's smarter than the intelligence level he displays on twitter


[20-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need to provide evidence for that.


[20-Jul-20 08:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
after all, the guy pulled off a presidential campaign that actually started in 2011


[20-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause there's a _lot_ of evidence that twitter Trump is the real trump.


[20-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of it has to do with how he approaches intelligence briefings.


[20-Jul-20 08:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has been said by many sources to brush them off completely if they say something not in line with what he thinks.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I will provide evidence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Y-P0v2Hh0 Emplemon really did a good breakdown of how trump played the american consciousness

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[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
As well, he demands very simple summaries.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The only reason Trump won the primaries was because the normal sane Republicans were split among a ridiculously large pool of candidates and all the whackjobs pooled together around Trump.

None of the moderate Republicans alone could get more votes than him, but if there was only *one* traditional Republican vs. Trump it would've been a different story.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, a campaign has numerous people working for it, not just the guy at the top.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
To say trump is stupid is pretty reductive - if he was stupid he would not have pulled off his election


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are some very smart people working for him.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump won largely because of stupid circumstances.


[20-Jul-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know how to work the memes.


[20-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't mistake the competence of a lakkey for the competence of its master.


[20-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump when he directly does stuff seems utterly blind to what he's doing.


[20-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

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The Prophecies of Q
American conspiracy theories are entering a dangerous new phase.
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[20-Jul-20 08:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think trump is really any worse than any other recent presidents


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who worked for both Obama and Trump indicate stark differences in leadership capability.


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
He's not fantastic, but he's about the same as those before him


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd have to question how many presidencies you've lived through.


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
tl;dr qanon is morphing from a collection of conspiracy theories to a full blown religion


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not being the same doesn't excuse ignorance and not wanting to learn.


[20-Jul-20 08:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think a lot of the attitude with trump is fearmongering. He can do better, but damn, at this point I don't fucking care about the government anymore


[20-Jul-20 08:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
They can literally suck my fucking dick. I'm ready for boog


[20-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
That argument seems incoherent.


[20-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, for someone who doesn't care about the government you come off as defensive of Trump. I'm not trying to be confrontational, it just comes off as a little disingenuous.


[20-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not fearmongering to say Trump bungled the Coronavirus situation, for instance.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
His administration was briefed by the Obama administration on the possibility of a virus like this.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I just think it's reductive to say trump is dumb


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump afterwards made decisions highly contrary to the advice given.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then let me say that Trump believes things that are factually and blatantly untrue in spite of clear counter-evidence.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
He also made highly questionable decisions at odds with Fauci's advice.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Like, if you want to counter him and his policies, you gotta play his game


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Whether that's "dumb" or not is up to you, but that's not up to debate.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Talking about a person's intelligence and countering them and their policies aren't the same thing.


[20-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump repeatedly ignores facts and promotes what I can assume are his feelings.


[20-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Serenity#9645
i like the idea that "orange man is bad, but not that bad" cus he isnt hitler or a nazi or anything that crazy. but he is crash and inmature and says alot of stupid things, but he has good ideas like getting the troops after the "oil war" out of there and is doing it and is pretty economy focased and has done fairly well with that minus covid


[20-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've not seen any economic decision by him that has improved things beyond just accepting everything congress sends to his desk.


[20-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a president could be replaced by a rubber stamp, he's a bad president.


[20-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
At least a rubber stamp wouldn't actively stoke the flames of conflict and division. No president at all would be preferable to the current one.


[20-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Worse, his "trade war" is a mess that just screws with farmers and others.


[20-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't seem to actually be gaining anything by it, just making China reciprocate and thus lead to having to send subsidies to farmers.


[20-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And this does affect me personally. I'm a teacher. In one month, I'm going back to an enclosed building full of kids despite every medical expert warning *not to do that* because this government is fine with sacrificing its people on the altar of the economy.


[20-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remind me which party is supposed to be seen as screwing shit up and covering it up with ridiculous subsidies when industries can't support themselves?


[20-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Serenity#9645
witch party hmm both?


[20-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Both *are* bad. One is way worse.


[20-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's no equating the two. Democrats are center-right and Republicans are *far* right.


[20-Jul-20 08:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I suffer not worrying about politics. Only thing on my mind is the fact the tree of liberty needs to be watered again.


[20-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well. I'm glad you're in a position where you can afford not to worry.


[20-Jul-20 08:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
There's better things to worry about


[20-Jul-20 08:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
All my buddies hate politics


[20-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has been trying to kill the tree of liberty. He has acting heads of tons of departments (because they're more loyal), he's been ripping apart agencies, he's been flagrantly ignoring the law (and to mess with an election, no less), and he's been in general taking every opportunity to defy decent process.


[20-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in the midst of a crisis where voting in person could risk your life, he's actively opposing efforts to get mail-in voting to those who need it, of course.


[20-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yet so many of the "small government" crowd praise him every time he sends the feds after protesters and the press. Those guys *should* be side by side with us against Trump.


[20-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Funny how Republicans used to champion it when it meant reliable voters, but now that it might help people bypass problems with polling places in areas with predominantly blakk communities, it's the devil)


[20-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Small government" doesn't look like a border wall and tons of agents rounding up anyone who doesn't go thru a convoluted process.


[20-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Serenity#9645
2 sides of the same coin, were told that rioting is peaceful protesting and that its better to do that during a epidemic and that we should repeal civil rights acts to put race and gender into discrimination for public schools and work


[20-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Small government" doesn't look like crazy amounts of embezzlement in gov't agencies, either.


[20-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was never afraid to criticize Obama. I did and do. I voted for him because he was the better of the two options but I virulently opposed many of his decisions in office.

Trump is not a king or a god. He is a public servant, and nobody should be so devoted to their party that they sweep aside what they *claim* their principles are and refuse to hold him accountable.


[20-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Data seems to show protestors aren't spreading the virus much, unlike lots of people having parties. It's the maskless Karens to fear, not the people shouting for the police to be reformed and the monuments taken down.


[20-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the other thing, that's just California.


[20-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
@Dr. Mechano https://i.redd.it/yfa6rd5xfwb51.jpg

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[20-Jul-20 08:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
orange man simply a symptom of a horribly corrupt system


[20-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
thanks crow


[20-Jul-20 08:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
Bernie getting fucked over by dems twice is also another big symptom


[20-Jul-20 08:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the establishment doesn't want change, Biden's administration will only be better than trump in that it doesn't constantly try to deliberately fuck over trans people so much among other things


[20-Jul-20 08:47 AM] Opponent#3498
```If a president could be replaced by a rubber stamp, he's a bad president.```
a rubber stamp with a Twitter text generator. Well, AI for that is already here :D


[20-Jul-20 08:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
otherwise? put money in billionaire pockets and do what they want, and make mediocre consessions to bernie bros that are watereddown to shit


[20-Jul-20 08:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I wanted Bernie, absolutely.

But after the shit Trump's pulled this past four years, you couldn't stop me from voting for Biden if I had to crawl 15 miles over broken glass. If he's elected I'll criticize Biden's actions in office openly, and any of you can hold me to that, lest I be a hypocrite.

But getting Trump *out* is top priority for me right now.


[20-Jul-20 08:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Biden at least has to partially appeal to bernie bro gang, like he agreed to a watered down green new deal recently right?


[20-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
My hope is Biden's running mate isn't someone horrible


[20-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
and so when he croaks, she can work with Bernie on things.


[20-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Serenity#9645
but anti lock down protests are killing grandmother and shut down, well jewish communities get their parks welded shut and funural goes get arrested, and other states dont have the same antidiscrimination laws, and police reform was placed by the conservatives saying that the police should take a learn about black people culture class by a black community leader, but that was shut down by democrats and then they defunded it and ask for more. both are pretty bad lol


[20-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah.


[20-Jul-20 08:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://slate.com/business/2020/07/joe-bidens-climate-plan-is-the-green-new-deal-minus-the-crazy.html
this is the first source I find no idea how good it is

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Joe Biden Is Campaigning On The Green New Deal, Minus the Crazy
Climate activists and the moderate Democratic nominee are finally on the same page.
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[20-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That seems like a complete ramble.


[20-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, a blakk culture class isn't gonna do shit.


[20-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This isn't even because of covid. Every state should have mail-in voting. Voting should be as accessible as possible.


[20-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Serenity#9645
thats just one of the few things that i thought was wierd in a conservative bill


[20-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Serenity#9645
most are like what everyone else has said like no choke holds and more rigorous escilation laws and training ect


[20-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
My state has mail-in voting for everyone and it's amazing.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I have a buddy in Oregon and they have mail-in voting. No such luck here.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's mainly a thing with western states.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Less infrastructure.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, fukk the East/South


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a southeasterner, I concur.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
All that built-up stuff just ruined the environment and made people's lives harder.


[20-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Serenity#9645
i got a mail in ballot for someone who doesnt live here, and another for a request for a ballot not a real one for me


[20-Jul-20 08:55 AM] Serenity#9645
many others have too. plus didnt like 20% in some places not get submitted cus it was past the deadline and not because of being a early bird but because of the mail system? and thats not counting the millions of fraud cases, people not reciving or knowing what to do with them. and the latter ending in arrest for some poeple because they didnt know how to use it 100% correctly


[20-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Mail-in ballots ask for your social security number though.


[20-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You couldn't vote for that person even if you wanted to.


[20-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Serenity#9645
i know millions is a exageration, but its been documented for both left and right helping


[20-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying "millions is an exaggeration" is a bit of an understatement.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
We're talking about like, maybe a few dozen cases a year.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE KILLED BY LIGHTNING etc.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Voting machines, meanwhile, do have documented problems and even outright errors so they're hardly a superior method.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting machines being manipulated happens at higher apparent rates than fraud by voters.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason the UK does everything by paper.


[20-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting machines are a gigantic weak point.


[20-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I live in the reddest red state, so it's statistically unlikely we'll go for Biden. But I'm still showing up to vote; Voting down the ticket in the local elections could still make a difference too.


[20-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I thought you meant vending machine for a second-


[20-Jul-20 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
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[20-Jul-20 09:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I need to show you something


[20-Jul-20 09:50 AM] byte[]#2610

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[20-Jul-20 09:50 AM] byte[]#2610
form letter I received in an email from school


[20-Jul-20 09:51 AM] byte[]#2610
(I received this two days ago and have not heard anything since)


[20-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
so, despite the health guidance that schools remain closed, they say they're opening anyway and to follow the health guidance?


[20-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
it's big brain time


[20-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

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[20-Jul-20 09:55 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[20-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-20/russian-elite-got-experimental-covid-19-vaccine-from-april


[20-Jul-20 10:23 AM] Crow#5457
> Scores of members of Russia’s business and political elite have been given early access to an experimental vaccine against Covid-19, according to people familiar with the effort, as the country races to be among the first to develop an inoculation.
> 
> Top executives at companies including aluminum giant United Co. Rusal, as well as billionaire tycoons and government officials began getting shots developed by the state-run Gamaleya Institute in Moscow as early as April, the people said. They declined to be identified as the information isn’t public.
> 
> The Gamaleya vaccine, financed by the state-run Russian Direct Investment Fund and backed by the military, last week completed a phase 1 trial involving Russian military personnel. The institute hasn’t published results for the study, which involved about 40 people, but has begun the next stage of trials with a larger group.


[20-Jul-20 10:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well

Hopefully the vaccine becomes widely available soon and isn't prohibitively expensive


[20-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I wouldn't trust any Russian vaccine


[20-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Especially when it's barely tested


[20-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, right. I just mean assuming it's tested and proven effective. If this can be verified by people *not* part of the Russian government/press, then it could still be beneficial.


[20-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
there's no point lying about this. They want to work as badly as anyone else.


[20-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Opponent#3498
what if Putin gets sick tommorow? They cannot pin _this_ on the West.


[20-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Opponent#3498
and picking fights with China is extremely ill-advised given their shared border and other concerns.


[20-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just keep Putin in bunker


[20-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Opponent#3498
plus I'm willing to bet they'd really like to survive this. It's a horrible feeling when money can't buy something. And right now the vaccine is just that


[20-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Imo it's politics,whoever make vaccine first could trade it for anything


[20-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
and that too, of course.


[20-Jul-20 12:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
wait forgot to erase one of the names


[20-Jul-20 12:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
there we go

incredible

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[20-Jul-20 02:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Do your own research" is code for "I have no evidence or facts to back up my bullshit statement"


[20-Jul-20 02:22 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Ah yes


[20-Jul-20 02:22 PM] RollingTheOC#3333
Let's forget about both world wars


[20-Jul-20 02:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1352630/Black_Lives_Matter/

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[20-Jul-20 02:27 PM] PwnyPony#6185
tags


[20-Jul-20 02:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
:op: :lyrasweating:


[20-Jul-20 02:53 PM] >That Guy#3386
`Imo it's politics,whoever make vaccine first could trade it for anything`
If the CIA were good for *anything* it would be stealing that vaccine from whoever's holding it.


[20-Jul-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mulls-legal-loophole-bypass-immigration-law-national-review-john-yoo-2020-7

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[20-Jul-20 03:48 PM] illumnious#7938
:lul:


[20-Jul-20 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/india/508072-india-sees-largest-daily-coronavirus-increase-with-more-than-40000

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India sees largest daily coronavirus increase with more than 40,000...
India remains a hotspot of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, with the country reporting more than 40,000 new cases on Monday, its highest figure yet for a 24-hour period.
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[20-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euGQoAkp43g

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[20-Jul-20 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/husband-and-son-of-new-jersey-judge-shot-at-home/

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[20-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Synfag#9241
> federal judge

well, that makes things more difficult
so many enemies at the span of his career is unavoidable


[20-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@PwnyPony accurate tags


[20-Jul-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to make matters worse but also narrow things down a bit, this was the judge assigned to the epstein/deutsche bank case


[20-Jul-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's possible the judge may have to recuse herself now since this assassination will have made it hard to remain impartial


[20-Jul-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if their goal was to delay the trial, they may have just succeeded


[20-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein-trial-judges-son-killed-hitman-deutsche-bank-esther-salas/

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Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial
The FBI is asking for tips about the attack on the family of Judge Esther Salas
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[20-Jul-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Jul-20 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Certified United States moment


[20-Jul-20 05:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
One of the big school districts in the state is doing two day weeks, the rest online


[20-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Elementary school must be hard to teach online


[20-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/education/507972-is-this-the-end-of-the-college-experience

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Is this the end of the 'college experience'?
There are more opportunities than ever to pursue higher learning. A four-year college is not the only way forward.
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[20-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
that's fair enough, if kids can get over student debt and empty job market, they can get over life-threatening disease with permanent side-effects :wheeze:


[20-Jul-20 06:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1285092587389370368?s=21

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[20-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing's over till it's over tho, so.


[20-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
The *Electoral College™* would like to have a word with this "historic margin"


[20-Jul-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, it;s way too soon to call anything


[20-Jul-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially given certain tactics and a shit ton of interference


[20-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the "college experience"


[20-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eating ramen being shafted by capitalism and being forced out of home early is basically designed to make people down with this whole capitalist mess.


[20-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Inucroft#4333
UK University-
Goverment "loan", written of within 25yrs, does not count towards your credit rating, you only start to repay it once you reach the contractual income threshold (£25K) ~~even then it's like £1-£2 a month~~

Also the USA's EC system is a joke.


[20-Jul-20 07:10 PM] wren#0114
do community college for associate's degree, then transfer if you realllly need a bachelor's degree for your field

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[20-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[20-Jul-20 07:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Ey, you're back.


[20-Jul-20 08:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the quote about covid and children, really needs a "do i make myself understood?" at the end of it to really sell the villain image


[20-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6XdpDOH1JA

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[20-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
the full insane interview with trump


[20-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gunman-ambushes-nj-federal-judge-esther-salas-husband-mark-anderl-and-son-at-home

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Men’s Rights Lawyer Eyed in Shooting of NJ Judge’s Family
Law enforcement sources say Roy Den Hollander was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after the crime.
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[20-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He was an MRA.


[20-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Holy shit, this was the guy that would sue over "lady's nights." He was pretty infamous.


[20-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`For years, Hollander has been filing suits alleging that women get unconstitutional special treatment and pushing to outlaw Ladies’ Nights at bars and women’s studies programs at universities. According to his website, it appears his foray in the men’s rights movement was sparked by his marriage to a Russian woman he met while working for the investigative firm Kroll Associates in the late 1990s; he alleges she was really a prostitute who swindled him.`


[20-Jul-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
uh


[20-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
she probably was, although less a prostitute, more a gold digger.


[20-Jul-20 09:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hints-send-secret-police-to-other-cities-after-portland-2020-7

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Trump suggests he'll send federal agents to other major US cities, ...
Federal officers in military garb have reportedly been driving around downtown Portland in unmarked vans and detaining protesters without explanation.
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[20-Jul-20 09:54 PM] jlun2#8758
so wheres those nra folks


[20-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I need our "small-government" conservative buddies to condemn this.


[20-Jul-20 10:11 PM] wren#0114
https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/734465189675794472


[20-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Crow#5457
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My name is Rob, and I made a mistake.
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[20-Jul-20 10:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
`so wheres those nra folks`
At home, it seems.
What does this have to do with gun rights though?


[20-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Federal agents taking people away in unmarked vans


[20-Jul-20 10:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
Another reason to arm yourself.


[20-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Inucroft#4333
Missing the point.

He's pointing out the hypocrisy that they claim they need the gun to defend themslves & their community/city from the goverment.

Then cheer in support of the goverment because they object/disagree with the protesters


[20-Jul-20 10:58 PM] wren#0114
they?


[20-Jul-20 10:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
Who are "they"?


[20-Jul-20 10:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just want my gun rights to be upheld.


[20-Jul-20 10:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Please post all the gun owners cheering over the black helicopters over cities


[20-Jul-20 10:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think you will find many, you might be mistaken here


[20-Jul-20 10:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
My guns are for my own self defense. I support the rights of others to arm themselves though.


[20-Jul-20 11:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
But for the record, I don't think "they", as in the people you're referring to, necessarily live in the same communities that this is taking place in.


[20-Jul-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i find a lot of gun rights people are instead of cheering , making battle speeches about how the tyrant left and their army of communists will fall to the federal officers


[20-Jul-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not all of them, but quite a bunch of them


[20-Jul-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is bizarre to watch


[20-Jul-20 11:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think that's really just right-wing people, who happen to also like guns.


[20-Jul-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[20-Jul-20 11:04 PM] >That Guy#3386
But the right to bear arms is also its own cause.


[20-Jul-20 11:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes - you shouldn't rely on others to take up arms when your liberty is under siege - only you have the power to take up arms against the oppressor

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[20-Jul-20 11:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^
Get your own guns to defend your rights. You shouldn't rely on "the nra people" to do it for you.


[20-Jul-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is true


[20-Jul-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a lot of people are doing this with non gun arms


[20-Jul-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially now that the feds have gotten involved


[20-Jul-20 11:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
Ah, it took me a while to find this:

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[20-Jul-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not like guns are going to do a whole lot anyway what with the whole military gear thing going on


[20-Jul-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That isn't sarcasm btw, they're literally clad to the nines in military war gear


[20-Jul-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldnt be surprised if they started bringing tanks in


[20-Jul-20 11:24 PM] jlun2#8758
tank man US version


[20-Jul-20 11:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Having guns would still make it more dangerous for them to do it, which would force them to take more cautious approaches.
Either way, it's good if people are able to arm themselves.


[20-Jul-20 11:27 PM] aperture_tech#5247
They brought tanks in to waco, but they really gave them a run for their money over there


[20-Jul-20 11:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> They brought tanks in to waco, but they really gave them a run for their money over there
@aperture_tech  Waco could not have overthrown the American government


[20-Jul-20 11:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They might have made a big shootout but at the end of the day it was just a cult


[20-Jul-20 11:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think you know what I was trying to say


[20-Jul-20 11:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's up to every individual to protect themselves. Ruby ridge was far worse, yet they got away in the end


[20-Jul-20 11:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
At great cost, but I'd rather have liberty than my life


[20-Jul-20 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My point is, if the US government wants to opress a people that is conveniently disorganized, they can do it quite well.


[20-Jul-20 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why the lower classes need communication, solidarity, and industrial coordination


[20-Jul-20 11:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm all for people to arm themselves, but it has to be corroborated by a more selfless mindset and in my opinion the left has just that. All that armed but *alienated* persons can become are terrorists or fragile selfish men


[20-Jul-20 11:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
US citizens have two privileges that are pretty useful for proletarian organization -- freedom of speech and a right to bear arms. And yet the inane trappings of right-wing individualism still permeate the minds of those who know that


[20-Jul-20 11:36 PM] >That Guy#3386
Free speech and guns some of my favorite things about this country.


[20-Jul-20 11:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe. But you should be wise to the fact that they are only means to an end


[20-Jul-20 11:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
They should be recognized as rights.


[20-Jul-20 11:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'd want them even if I weren't in a situation where I needed them.


[20-Jul-20 11:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
Seeing them as a means to an end is short-sighted. People should have the tools of revolution at all times, for the preservation of a free society.


[20-Jul-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're a means to an end as much as are unions, communication, strike actions


[20-Jul-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sometimes the vote, but that one's of limited effectiveness


[20-Jul-20 11:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
>"okay, we overthrew the tyrant, guess we don't need rights anymore"
>*new regime immediately becomes tyrannical*


[20-Jul-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Except nobody would say they "don't need rights anymore" in that sort of situation


[20-Jul-20 11:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, but people may stop caring enough to preserve their rights and allow the state to eat away at them bit by bit.


[20-Jul-20 11:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Governments will gladly steal people's rights when they're not looking.


[20-Jul-20 11:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You misunderstand the nature of revolutions


[20-Jul-20 11:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
This has happened before.


[20-Jul-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Governments and social organizations don't become opressive out of nowhere or inherently


[20-Jul-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They only become so due to material constraints, war, famine, crisis


[20-Jul-20 11:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
They become oppressive due to greed, paranoia, and people in charge believing that they can act with impunity.


[20-Jul-20 11:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, they become oppressive in the traditional bourgeois sense because of crisis


[20-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
```Except nobody would say they "don't need rights anymore" in that sort of situation```


[20-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Opponent#3498
usually the new government is the one saying 'you don't need rights anymore'. Re: Soviet union :D There's no need for strikes in worker's paradise. Anyone who disagrees is a saboteur and an Enemy of the People


[20-Jul-20 11:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, that did happen


[20-Jul-20 11:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
Crisis is no excuse to deny people their rights, imo. That's how we get bullshit like the PATRIOT Act. Now the right to privacy practically doesn't exist anymore.


[20-Jul-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What matters here, though


[20-Jul-20 11:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
Rights matter, always.


[20-Jul-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is that the bureaucratization and hierarchization of Soviet society was a product of the constraints of its territory, population, social organization and resources


[20-Jul-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx explicitly delineated communism as a mode of production only possible in the presence of large ammounts of industry and a salaried proletariat


[20-Jul-20 11:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Russia in the 1920's had little of that -- it had just enough to fall to a revolution, but not enough to engender a change in that mode of production


[20-Jul-20 11:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Marx was also a strong supporter of gun rights.


[20-Jul-20 11:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So the Soviet bureaucracy faced the task of industrializing the country and handling the peasant question


[20-Jul-20 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As is always the case with industrializing countries, the government tends to demand more from the peasantry to feed a burgeoning urban industry and economy


[20-Jul-20 11:48 PM] >That Guy#3386
Even when it borders on enslavement.


[20-Jul-20 11:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's part of the explanation behind the Ukrainian famines, for example


[20-Jul-20 11:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And as Russia and the rest of the Soviet Union developed, there still remained a large agricultural population and sector of the economy. Russia had put itself in a course of development analogous to capitalism


[20-Jul-20 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the capitalists? That's what the bureaucracy became


[20-Jul-20 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
World War Two didn't help matters either, as it left a lot of infrastructure destroyed and able bodied people dead


[20-Jul-20 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@>That Guy do you follow?


[20-Jul-20 11:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, I know this.


[20-Jul-20 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All this destruction and flawed development prevented the Soviet Union from properly being a focus of world revolutionary sentiment -- it chose to support armed peasant rebellions across the third world, but few of these succeeded


[20-Jul-20 11:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China and Vietnam, arguably the only two countries where this strategy succeeded, had economic hindrances of their own too


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
Vietnam is capitalist now.


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which, again, explains why China today is a capitalist state in practice


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
China is closer to fascism.


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or, more accurately, merely still part of the capitalist world system


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism is an economic model, fascism is a government model


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can have a fascist capitalist society


[20-Jul-20 11:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
I guess so.
Capitalism, without the free market parts.


[20-Jul-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism isn't something that can be avoided or warded off by a country at will, it's a world-scale mode of production


[20-Jul-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Any attempt at changing this mode of production would require a worldwide revolution


[20-Jul-20 11:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
That kind of makes it seem hopeless.


[20-Jul-20 11:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
The *entire world*? Not just part of it?


[20-Jul-20 11:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kind of, but imo, a world revolution might actually be more likely now than it was before


[20-Jul-20 11:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
World domination is kind of tough.


[20-Jul-20 11:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The industrialization of the third world, China, Africa, and Latin America among others has increased the global population of the proletarian class


[20-Jul-20 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which makes it much more possibly powerful than it was before -- if 1919 was tense in regards to proletarian activity, imagine that same ammount of class conscious mentality among today's working class


[20-Jul-20 11:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'm not counting on China doing anything good for the world anytime soon.


[20-Jul-20 11:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, i make no pretense of the government of China or Xi Jinping being a revolutionary factor


[21-Jul-20 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
States don't make communism -- working class movements do


[21-Jul-20 12:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
And the CCP seems to be doing a pretty good job of brainwashing, speech-suppression, history-revision, and mass-surveillance.


[21-Jul-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes -- but even more scary than the United States' bourgeoisie is that the Chinese elites are somewhat willing to make concessions to the working class


[21-Jul-20 12:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
They made their own Dalai Lama, ffs.


[21-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
About those people getting charged, this is the law they broke


[21-Jul-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And, after decades of neoliberal, corporate buffoonery by the western world, China's seemingly workable "social non-democratic" model has ended up an attractive alternative


[21-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner."


[21-Jul-20 12:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To the point that people even call it communism itself -- it's not, that's a delusion


[21-Jul-20 12:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
What a stupid law


[21-Jul-20 12:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Gun-toting shouldn't be illegal.


[21-Jul-20 12:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think a lot of people who use the word "communism" don't really know what it means, even self-proclaimed communists.


[21-Jul-20 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I agree


[21-Jul-20 12:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
In fact, I think most people aren't completely sure what it means.


[21-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gun-toting isn't illegal, flagging is


[21-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If they had stood out there and not pointed it at anyone, fine


[21-Jul-20 12:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ah, that's different then.


[21-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Marches[45]#0674
That political compass that has "me" in the lower right quadrant moving up into and slightly to the left in the upper right quadrant "when I see a goddamn commie."


[21-Jul-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[21-Jul-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are you gonna do?


[21-Jul-20 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post memes at me?


[21-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Marches[45]#0674
That's just what modern libertarians remind me of. "Rights for me, screw all else, especially if you're my understanding a commie."


[21-Jul-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh


[21-Jul-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry, thought you were antagonizing me lol


[21-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Marches[45]#0674
The cheering about arrests by cops in unmarked vehicles/aircraft by the gun rights people goes on in Tartarus.


[21-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@>That Guy This meme is stupid. Then again, people like the ACLU no longer actively try to defend Nazis for the most part so I guess the "only protect the rights of people who agree with me politically" is powerful


[21-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I won't prevent unmarked vans from kidnapping you during a protest because you wanted to make it harder for mentally ill people to own a gun"


[21-Jul-20 12:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
They're free to buy their own guns and defend themselves. I'm not about to die for it


[21-Jul-20 12:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm not even a member of the nra though.


[21-Jul-20 12:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I don't really fucking care until I get vanned


[21-Jul-20 12:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't even really like the NRA, I prefer GOA


[21-Jul-20 12:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
NRA compromises too much. Weaksauce.


[21-Jul-20 12:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The NRA seems to be more interested in protecting manufacturers than owners


[21-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IMO to stick to your principles you have to defend those who hate you


[21-Jul-20 12:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I do defend them. I think what's happening is wrong. I'm not going to kill people until I am in danger though


[21-Jul-20 12:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's a big fucking ask


[21-Jul-20 12:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm not about to shoot anyone for the protection of people with no will to protect themselves.


[21-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So a baby is as good as dead?


[21-Jul-20 12:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
A baby can't shoot a gun.


[21-Jul-20 12:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
try to argue in good faith my man


[21-Jul-20 12:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm nobody's personal army.


[21-Jul-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah was a joke


[21-Jul-20 12:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why wait for " NRA folks" to defend you when you could get guns and defend yourself?
If they're not taking matters into their own hands, they must not be serious.


[21-Jul-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every time non-NRA folks get involved, it's seen as a problem


[21-Jul-20 12:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm non-NRA, but I'm a strong proponent of gun rights.


[21-Jul-20 12:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
And I would support people's rights to bear arms in any case.


[21-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508120-homeland-security-sending-150-agents-to-chicago-this-week-report

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Homeland Security sending 150 agents to Chicago this week: report
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is planning to send 150 federal agents to Chicago this week,
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/dhs_020520gn2_lead.jpg


[21-Jul-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-portland/u-s-officials-defend-portland-crackdown-were-not-going-to-apologize-idUSKCN24L1I1

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Trump to send federal forces to more 'Democrat' cities
President Donald Trump on Monday said he would send law enforcement to more U.S. cities, as a federal crackdown on anti-racism protests in Oregon with unmarked cars and unidentified forces angered people across the country.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200720&t=2&i=1526411499&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG6J0VH


[21-Jul-20 12:49 AM] wren#0114

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[21-Jul-20 12:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is this pic in politics


[21-Jul-20 12:53 AM] wren#0114
because I am frustrated at federal overreach


[21-Jul-20 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[21-Jul-20 12:57 AM] wren#0114
:lul:


[21-Jul-20 12:58 AM] wren#0114
to be more accurate though if that's me in the pic, then I'd be screeching because of not being an earth pony


[21-Jul-20 12:59 AM] wren#0114
> “There is no place for federal troops or unidentified federal agents rounding people up at will,” tweeted U.S. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.


[21-Jul-20 01:00 AM] wren#0114
it especially bothers me that it's unmarked cars and unidentifiable agents


[21-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Did anyone come back?


[21-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
supposedly they were all read their rights after being brought into the car and dropped off at civilian PDs for processing


[21-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
but there's no way to know for sure if everyone abducted had that happen to them or not this early


[21-Jul-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/20/trump-john-yoo-lawyer-torture-waterboarding

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Trump consults Bush torture lawyer on how to skirt law and rule by ...
John Yoo wrote memo used to justify waterboarding and other forms of torture, with Trump keen to use executive orders and circumvent Congress
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[21-Jul-20 01:05 AM] wren#0114
:ineedanadult:


[21-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Quick question: there are news going around outside US about "people kissing boots"? What hell is that?


[21-Jul-20 01:08 AM] wren#0114
I think you're referring to the slang term?

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[21-Jul-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
literally or figuratively?


[21-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Literally


[21-Jul-20 01:09 AM] wren#0114
wut


[21-Jul-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently it;s a thing some white people are doing to apologize for racism?


[21-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes.


[21-Jul-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's all google gives me


[21-Jul-20 01:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why would you apologize for something that someone else did?


[21-Jul-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I guess it;s a sort of role reversal thing where instead of the black slave kissing the boot of their master it;s a white person kissing the boot of a black person in apology


[21-Jul-20 01:11 AM] wren#0114
wtf?


[21-Jul-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit confusing either way


[21-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's my sentiments, it is too far absurd.


[21-Jul-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
Bootlicker is almost certainly referring to people defending cops


[21-Jul-20 01:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588199391467405313/726925204626079775/Ebnf92-UwAELI_5.png

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[21-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In this context it was apology thing.


[21-Jul-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every headline i find about this is incredibly aggressive


[21-Jul-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915

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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1285299379746811915
We are United in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you can’t socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President!
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[21-Jul-20 01:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> the Invisible China Virus

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[21-Jul-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/19/trump-holds-chart-fox-news-shows-hes-lying-lies-says/

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Trump Holds Up a Chart on Fox News That Shows He’s Lying, Then Lies...
Trump lied that the U.S. Covid-19 mortality rate was the world’s best; his proof was a chart comparing the U.S. to just 6 countries in a different category.
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[21-Jul-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEoobJEi73E i think this is what the boot kissign thing was refering too but i cant be entirely sure

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New Europa
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European White Girls Kissing Boots of African Black Men
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[21-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Holy shit.


[21-Jul-20 01:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> New Europa


[21-Jul-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good news is it;s not an article based video, it;s jsut footage


[21-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Please tell me it is just staged video.


[21-Jul-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
it's probably real


[21-Jul-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it looks pretty real


[21-Jul-20 01:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426956666685358080/734908320384679946/i_just_want_to_grill_political_compass.png

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[21-Jul-20 01:42 AM] wren#0114
mmm


[21-Jul-20 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the "I just wanna grill" meme is the meme for people who pretend they're neutral by belittling the movement


[21-Jul-20 01:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's "all lives matter" but even more broadly ignorant


[21-Jul-20 01:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/307/426/92d.jpg

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[21-Jul-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the only possible way it wouldn't be is if it's a reference to the bbq becky incident, which it 100% is not


[21-Jul-20 01:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's a retarded take my dude
Not everything is politics

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[21-Jul-20 01:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
then why do I only see that clipart dude with a grill show up in response to political statements


[21-Jul-20 01:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
more often than not it shows up when a political argument takes place where it doesn't belong


[21-Jul-20 01:47 AM] wren#0114

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[21-Jul-20 01:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
there's no need to say you want togrill when people are just constantly bringing politics outta nowhere


[21-Jul-20 01:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, "not everything is politics" is a pretty garbage take when the conversation got started about an "I just wanna grill" political meme being posted in the politics channel


[21-Jul-20 01:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yes, someone posted a political meme


[21-Jul-20 01:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's not that big of a deal, it's a joke.


[21-Jul-20 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So it's not political, it's just a joke? Those aren't mutually exclusive


[21-Jul-20 01:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sometimes jokes can be bad


[21-Jul-20 01:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a response to politics being shoved everywhere


[21-Jul-20 01:50 AM] wren#0114
look man


[21-Jul-20 01:50 AM] wren#0114
I just want to grill


[21-Jul-20 01:50 AM] wren#0114
:twiright:

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[21-Jul-20 01:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's really not worth getting mad about politics and their inherent retardation


[21-Jul-20 01:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, today I had someone yell at me to take my mask off while I was riding my bike. You want to talk about mental deficiency? Pretty sure I had more oxygen in my brain at that moment than he did


[21-Jul-20 01:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
ok


[21-Jul-20 01:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That isn't political though, just weird


[21-Jul-20 01:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
I just want to grill is fine.
It's okay to take a neutral stance. If you don't care you don't care.


[21-Jul-20 01:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[21-Jul-20 01:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are times when taking a neutral stance isn't actually okay


[21-Jul-20 01:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
based and ponypilled picture

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[21-Jul-20 01:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's always okay to not give a shit about a specific issue


[21-Jul-20 01:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You have the right to do that, sure, doesn't make it "okay"


[21-Jul-20 01:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It makes it okay, you don't need to give a shit about everything. It's dumb to get mad at people for not caring about what you do


[21-Jul-20 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If the threat were less existential and more personally tangible I don't think you'd be saying that


[21-Jul-20 01:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then again, we do live in an age where people can literally be waving guns around in public flagging people and have folks say unironically that it's fine, so


[21-Jul-20 01:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It is up to you and you alone to secure your existence.

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[21-Jul-20 01:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I call bull on that. I don't believe anarchy justifies the erosion of government


[21-Jul-20 02:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's just the natural consequence of it


[21-Jul-20 02:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not calling for anarchy


[21-Jul-20 02:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You don't need to go on the offensive to defend yourself


[21-Jul-20 02:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, if it's up to you alone to secure your existence, then what is the purpose of government?


[21-Jul-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> It is up to you and you alone to secure your existence.
@aperture_tech shitty and pretty typical take -- "securing your existence" means nothing if there are forces at play that have an interest in exploiting you


[21-Jul-20 02:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Enacting laws? Enforcing them? Nope, can't have that. It'd be taking power away from your sole privilege to defend yourself


[21-Jul-20 02:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's how the social contract works


[21-Jul-20 02:03 AM] byte[]#2610
did you guys somehow miss that the TV show you watched that ultimately led you here is called "friendship is magic"

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[21-Jul-20 02:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's up to you to define the line. It's not up to others to do your work for you


[21-Jul-20 02:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, I'm sorry, there's a social contract that's entirely up to me to define


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
There is


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now this is high energy dumbposting


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you can get as mad as you want over it


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How can it be a contract if no one else agrees to it


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm talking about when the contract gets violated


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're literally just defending anarchy at this point


[21-Jul-20 02:04 AM] PwnyPony#6185
China is not even trying to be subtle about this anymore.
If they don't invade Poland I guess they can get away with it.
Also BBC wants to get rid of these types of interviews to save money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-53463242/china-s-ambassador-challenged-on-treatment-of-uighurs

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'There is no such concentration camp in Xinjiang'
China's ambassador to the UK is confronted with drone footage that appears to show Uighurs being blindfolded and led to trains.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/88C4/production/_113521053_de36.jpg


[21-Jul-20 02:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No I'm not. You should calm down - it's not the work of other people to die for your beliefs


[21-Jul-20 02:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You sound way too apathetic and pessimistic for me to bare


[21-Jul-20 02:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
to *bear


[21-Jul-20 02:06 AM] wren#0114
chinagay


[21-Jul-20 02:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
all my homies hate china and the ccp


[21-Jul-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> No I'm not. You should calm down - it's not the work of other people to die for your beliefs
@aperture_tech not die, just make a conscious effort to resist the system or at least be wary of its inherent problems


[21-Jul-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dying already happens, every single day


[21-Jul-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just you that are too numb to notice it


[21-Jul-20 02:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I notice it, but why should I give a fuck about every single thing? There's constantly special interest groups trying to get me to give a fuck about shit - whether it's a corporation or whatever, I suffer not their pleas to get me to care


[21-Jul-20 02:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Haha look at me not caring, i am actually special and unique"


[21-Jul-20 02:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not claiming I'm special - I'm literally making the claim that it is a normal thing to do


[21-Jul-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because right now the biggest threat we face is coming from someone whose plans to make other people die for their beliefs would be pretty heavily thwarted if people started caring about the little things


[21-Jul-20 02:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
sounds pretty paranoid to me


[21-Jul-20 02:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the little things are how they get power over bigger things


[21-Jul-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not even talking about what might happen, I'm talking about what already has


[21-Jul-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-governors-secret-calls-complain-trump-coronavirus-response-nyt-2020-7

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[21-Jul-20 02:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/Fh1jkChzd20

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Drone footage from an unknown hero in China.
#Uighur
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[21-Jul-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the way the world has always worked for those who consolidate power


[21-Jul-20 02:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
honestly this discussion kinda reminds me of the way that people on /pol/ talk about how the jews have taken over everything and its too late


[21-Jul-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the greatest lie the devil ever told is convincing the world he doesn't exist, etc. The key to making it all work is to pin the blame on someone else


[21-Jul-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And they do it so consistently that you can pretty much take their finger-pointing as a confession that they've done exactly what they accuse the scapegoats of


[21-Jul-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@aperture_tech unfair comparison -- left wing mentality does not rely on conspiracy theories as much as the right does


[21-Jul-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Everything we argue against, every single tragedy, crime, and atrocity is recorded for everyone to see


[21-Jul-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It certainly takes no conspiracy to explain the rise of corruption


[21-Jul-20 02:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But people don't want to see -- they're apathetic to them. The media and the capitalist class has an interest in keeping it that way


[21-Jul-20 02:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That observation is influenced on bias


[21-Jul-20 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because it does not affect the usual listener to an extent they deem impactful


[21-Jul-20 02:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You only see the worst of the other side. I don't believe the left wing is all identity politics communists


[21-Jul-20 02:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't spend my time getting paranoid over the actions of others


[21-Jul-20 02:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My friend, even being apathetic and "centrist" is an identity most of the time


[21-Jul-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's all just the collective outcome of self-interest and the need to retain the power they believe they deserve, the end is the same. I don't believe in the power of a silent majority keeping things in balance when it is only those who speak up who are changing the status quo


[21-Jul-20 02:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not a centrist though


[21-Jul-20 02:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are you?


[21-Jul-20 02:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't slap labels on myself to force me to decide with a group


[21-Jul-20 02:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What are your political beliefs, then?


[21-Jul-20 02:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I believe in different things when it comes to politics. I don't fuck around with this party stuff. If it's a party, I'm sure as hell not having fun


[21-Jul-20 02:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, that's fair and i agree with it. How do you propose we manage society and apply improvements to it, then?


[21-Jul-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not an attack -- there are ways to do that outside of party politics


[21-Jul-20 02:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't have any answer for that - there is no perfect solution. We should seek out more perfect solutions rather than trying to fix everything all at once. Plenty of people in the world don't always see everything as crashing down.


[21-Jul-20 02:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I beg your pardon? That didn't feel clear enough


[21-Jul-20 02:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's easy to get caught up in the media cycle, where everything is wrong and awful. That kind of stuff causes a lot of unhappiness. Everything constantly seems wrong. You need to keep your outlook positive, otherwise reality comes crashing down

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[21-Jul-20 02:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The lack of a perfect solution doesn't mean that you can't claim that things are getting worse, either


[21-Jul-20 02:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think they necessarily are


[21-Jul-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't know, but i do agree that being informed is mentally and psychologically costly. That doesn't mean we should not be so, however


[21-Jul-20 02:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
then you are not paying attention


[21-Jul-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because even to those who try to mind their own business, the weight of societal inequality comes crashing down on them eventually


[21-Jul-20 02:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I am paying attention, I just think bad things are given much more prevalence in today's society


[21-Jul-20 02:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or you have been convinced that the things that are making the world worse will ultimately make it better


[21-Jul-20 02:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This happens to a lot of people -- especially marginalized minorities and the poor


[21-Jul-20 02:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Anyways I prefer to spend my days without worry, and that isn't to say I spend my time unprepared. I always prepare for the worst but I try not to dwell on it


[21-Jul-20 02:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially the things that history has proven are not self-correcting; things that will only be improved by force or by prevention


[21-Jul-20 02:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I do agree that the bad stuff should be counterbalanced by good and hope-inducing stuff. But the latter should be in regards to opposition and resistance to the former, otherwise it's merely a numbing distraction


[21-Jul-20 02:27 AM] Honahue#0656
being able to spend your days without worry means that the status quo is working out for you so obviously you don't want to rock the boat but there's billions of people it isn't


[21-Jul-20 02:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's why "solidarity" is a slogan among the left -- despite all the tools and arms that the system frequently uses against the small folk, they have ways to resist


[21-Jul-20 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Once you notice you're in chains, it becomes much easier to break off from them


[21-Jul-20 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd add that a significant portion of those who are being shafted the hardest are also being told incessantly that they're being helped - and a lot of them believe it because they've been told not to believe anyone else. It's like an abusive family


[21-Jul-20 02:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're constantly threatened that if they turn away from that guidance - if they believe what the others are telling them - that some tragedy will rise up and it'll be all their fault


[21-Jul-20 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a remarkably effective combination of the minority fallacy, statements that are impossible to disprove, and outright lies


[21-Jul-20 02:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Use the minority fallacy to show how "everyone else" wants to keep the truth from you, unprovable statements directed at the "others" to demonstrate their inability to tell the truth...and the lies can become the truth even if they're obvious. Gaslighting 101


[21-Jul-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US Army is not very optimistic...
<https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/>

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[21-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/ryanlongcomedy/status/1285208497517473793

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[21-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Crow#5457
that man is stuffed with straw


[21-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's on a high-fiber diet.

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[21-Jul-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2020/06/15/federal-court-strikes-down-ncs-controversial-ag-gag-law/ look! Actual good news!

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Federal court strikes down NC's controversial 'ag-gag' law
Federal judge strikes down North Carolina "ag gag" law as violating the First Amendment rights of reproters and whistleblowers
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[21-Jul-20 03:45 AM] illumnious#7938

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[21-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Honahue#0656
damn, sadly Tuck will just fall back on his TV dinner's fortune even if he gets fired


[21-Jul-20 03:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or get hired by oann


[21-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or start his own network like other ex-fox news hosts


[21-Jul-20 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or go work for the white house


[21-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, he'll get hired by the Trump campaign


[21-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, yes, or WH


[21-Jul-20 03:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
His career choices are not at all limited. He'll be fine.


[21-Jul-20 04:00 AM] jlun2#8758
then they get pardoned by trump


[21-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't think you can pardon civil suits


[21-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And these sort of things rarely result in felony charges


[21-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
they're all millionaries at worst anyway, this would just be early retirement and yeah they could still get writing fee for conservitive rags or get jobs in some libertarian think tank


[21-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Opponent#3498
tfw the only people worthy of getting cancelled are also the ones immune to it :wheeze:


[21-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
yes, "cancelling" only works on the powerless


[21-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
that's why it's garbage


[21-Jul-20 04:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on the other hand, https://www.complex.com/music/2020/07/kanye-west-presidential-campaign-rally-scene

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It was a disorganized mess in Charleston on Sunday. This is the story of a man who snuck in and accidentally helped run Kanye West's first campaign rally.
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[21-Jul-20 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
whoops, thought I had a different link copied, fixed


[21-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Opponent#3498
well at least he's having fun


[21-Jul-20 04:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Harriet Tubman carried a gun. That is why Kanye wore a jacket. He was afraid her ghost would come back when he started talking shit.

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[21-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Serenity#9645
ooo thats the fancy new vest too, the one that break down without a rocket scientist to put back together and are super light, got that last year for my deployment but they are super rare to be issued


[21-Jul-20 04:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/LionelMedia/status/1285289513850490881
This bitch might be president.

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[21-Jul-20 04:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tulsi deflated her so bad that she needed emergency Botox injections


[21-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Honahue#0656
did demons take her over


[21-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Crow#5457
the human suit isn't fitting very well anymore


[21-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Honahue#0656
the eyes are full black


[21-Jul-20 05:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
She looks like a fucking skinwalker.
A bad botox job will do that to ya.


[21-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Honahue#0656
I hope thats an edit


[21-Jul-20 05:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's not.
It's an unflattering screencap.


[21-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Honahue#0656
oof


[21-Jul-20 05:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
That Joker smile.


[21-Jul-20 05:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Really looks like Botox though.
Probably trying to look pretty so Biden will pick her as VP.


[21-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean it could just be a bad frame but what makes her creepy is the full black eyes


[21-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1285386153093464065

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[21-Jul-20 05:38 AM] illumnious#7938
oh nooooo


[21-Jul-20 05:38 AM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[21-Jul-20 05:39 AM] illumnious#7938
wtf


[21-Jul-20 05:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716564565802090556/734972326373752853/7e3dd67e5d56cdae9fb0018fb7b31e1b589a3ec2.mp4

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[21-Jul-20 05:42 AM] illumnious#7938
hue


[21-Jul-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c8PoiAKg_9k

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In the first rally of his last-minute presidential campaign, rapper Kanye West delivers rambling remarks at a South Carolina convention centre. The venue appeared to lack audience microphones, so West repeatedly told the crowd to be silent. 'Quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet,' he tel...
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[21-Jul-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
Kanye likes fish sticks


[21-Jul-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/07/trump-administration-memo-explains-spot-transgender-woman/

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[21-Jul-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
The next one will tell you how to identify Muslims and Jews


[21-Jul-20 05:58 AM] jlun2#8758
from the article
> Related: Ben Carson tells Fox News he’s transphobic because the Bible & Chinese people
:inkyhuh:
chinese ppl?


[21-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Wat


[21-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Inb4 trans guys end up in women's homeless shelters


[21-Jul-20 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that there is now in power a group of individuals who openly believe that the only reason Hitler failed is that he tried to invade Russia, and that the obvious solution is to simply do everything he did but this time get Russia on your side. I am also convinced that Russia's plan is to divide and discredit the USA by extending offers of friendship to anyone who thinks America should follow in Hitler's footsteps


[21-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
tbh USA is in much better position to do what Hitler wanted than Germany ever was.


[21-Jul-20 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only possible alternative is that the dumb americans who think Russia is an ally aren't neo-nazis, they just happen to want to consolidate power, and the path of least resistance just happens to be the textbook definition of fascism that they arrived at independently


[21-Jul-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the fact that so many of Trump's friends have direct involvement in the Epstein affair, right down to Trump's impeachment defense being helmed by the guy who got Epstein out of prison in the first place, is not helping matters either. It's not a conspiracy, it's just a whole bunch of folks with their hand in the cookie jar trying desperately to keep that from getting out and the only reason they're not tearing each other to pieces is because they know if one guy flips, it's over for them, too


[21-Jul-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, like, the thing about "all roads leading to Russia" being used to mock allegations against them when in actuality the special counsel was originally appointed to look into what *Russia* was up to, and the original special counsel got fired when what they were uncovering pointed to "Russia tried to meddle with everyone, but got the most traction with the Trump campaign"


[21-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
what did Epstein do to make him so important anyway? I know US public has a manufactured fixation on pedophilia, but strategically, how was he of any value besides that?


[21-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Opponent#3498
people talk about him like he was the living holy grail of justice.


[21-Jul-20 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Epstein was a bookie/numbers guy, as best I can tell. Like, his job was to sit on a pile of money and shut up about it, and he did that pretty well. Then it turned out he could also pull in some, uh, "forbidden nectar" and suddenly he was sitting on something far more valuable than money: blackmail


[21-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Opponent#3498
oh. That is indeed juicy.


[21-Jul-20 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This guy's fortune appeared overnight from all the same rich and powerful names you've heard in this story before, but once we get to the chapter in his life about the "black book" - that is, the alleged registry of who was at his parties...


[21-Jul-20 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, those rich and powerful names became the richest and most powerful names in the *world*


[21-Jul-20 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but it wasn't exactly his job to bring in the girls for the pedophilia ring. That's all Ghislaine Maxwell. Epstein's job was just to throw the parties, run the numbers, and keep his mouth shut


[21-Jul-20 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And now people looking into the mysterious death of the guy who was about to be forced to open his mouth mysteriously death'd themselves, and suddenly this week someone not-so-mysteriously death'd after looking into *that*


[21-Jul-20 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and in the middle of all this Maxwell randomly turns up in an obvious place to get caught and is currently sitting in a federal prison that's ultimately under the supervision of William Barr. You can understand why people are concerned for her health.


[21-Jul-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But to touch on something you said earlier about "America's manufactured fixation on pedophilia," well, the laws surrounding that are pretty good at ferreting out everything except where the actual racket is turning out to be, and *guess what* a lot of the loudest voices about that show up in a certain black book.


[21-Jul-20 06:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And where might that racket be happening? According to what I've seen so far, there's more than just a hunch that there's something shady about kids in the foster care system in the US, which I recall thinking was a mighty significant coincidence because of the Magnitsky Act. What's the Magnitsky Act? It's the thing that froze all the assets of the Russian oligarchs that were being held in the US, in retaliation for which Russia...made it illegal for anyone in the US to adopt Russian kids...for some reason. And to make the coincidence even coincidence-ier, you remember that infamous "trump tower" meeting that was one of the highlights of the Mueller investigation? The one where they supposedly turned up to talk about dirt on Hillary but left empty-handed because they talked about something else...what was it... oh yeah, "adoption and the Magnitsky Act."


[21-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah I've heard some stories about foster system and juvenile justice being really iffy for no obvious reason.


[21-Jul-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really, really, really don't want to be the guy with the pins and the string and the newspaper clippings going "it's all connected" but *goddamn* is it a small world surrounding Donald Trump


[21-Jul-20 07:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and very little of that world is currently not in trouble in some fashion or another. Like, you plug Deutsche Bank into the equation, and the list of people that Trump has interacted with that aren't currently under investigation is basically just Macaulay Culkin and the turkey he pardoned at thanksgiving


[21-Jul-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(who is, imo, the only individual that Trump has pardoned that deserved it)


[21-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Xenxc#4012
>politicians are pedophiles
stunning revelations in this chat


[21-Jul-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the Epstein and cartel stuff that judge handled


[21-Jul-20 07:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And her life was changed forever by a guy who hated ladies nights.


[21-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Opponent#3498
it would be excruciating irony if that _was_ just a rando woman hater yeah.


[21-Jul-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well he was no rando woman hater


[21-Jul-20 07:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was his career. He dedicated his life to it, mainly being against ladies nights


[21-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The judge wasn't handling a case challenging the all male draft to his satisfaction apparently


[21-Jul-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He bought a Russian bride in the 90s who jilted him and it broke him, basically.


[21-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Synfag#9241
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[21-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Opponent#3498
as if xD


[21-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Opponent#3498
a better comparison would be nazi vs whatever SJW mob has for a symbol.


[21-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
nazi vs nazi it is


[21-Jul-20 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/john-yoo-bush-torture-memos-confirms-working-trump-bypass-congress-2020-7

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Yoo had written an article arguing that the Supreme Court's ruling to uphold DACA "makes it easy for presidents to violate the law."
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[21-Jul-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/top-gop-senator-stimulus-check-payroll-tax-cut-grassley-trump-2020-7

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[21-Jul-20 03:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1285368776347627520?s=21

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Trump says wearing a face mask is ‘patriotic’ and plans to resume COVID-19 briefings
President Trump Tweeted on Monday a photo of himself wearing a mask saying “many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you can’t socially distance.” His endorsement comes more than three months after the CDC recommended people wear masks in public. Trump also said on Monday he would resume the pandemic briefings that he called off in April.
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[21-Jul-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good, more campaign speeches and weird rants about rain and dishwashers in lieu of actual breifings


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[21-Jul-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Retail industry calls for targeted relief amid coronavirus pandemic
The retail industry, represented by the National Retail Federation (NRF), is calling for further financial assistance for companies and businesses hit hardest by the coronavirus pandemic.
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[21-Jul-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/508263-ocasio-cortez-to-introduce-bill-requiring-federal-officers-to-identify

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Washington, D.C., Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton (D) will introduce a bill that would require all federal law enforcement officials to clearly identify themselves.
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[21-Jul-20 03:55 PM] ononim#8141
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Ukraine gunman holds 20 hostages on bus
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[21-Jul-20 05:04 PM] Marches[45]#0674
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-rolling-back-regulations-help-americans/

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South Lawn 4:17 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you very much, everybody. Please. That's a nice crowd on a nice, coo
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[21-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Crow#5457
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Wall
Trump is building his wall — just not the one he promised.
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[21-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Xenxc#4012
Roof


[21-Jul-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
wtf is this ad even for? And how did they equate his pet wall with Corona?


[21-Jul-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems quite stupid indeed :/


[21-Jul-20 06:12 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-rolling-back-regulations-help-americans/
@Marches[45]  bitch what the fuck

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South Lawn 4:17 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. (Applause.) Thank you. Thank you very much, everybody. Please. That's a nice crowd on a nice, coo
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[21-Jul-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We are here to celebrate me putting all of you and your communities in danger so your employers can make more at the end of the month"


[21-Jul-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldnt be surprised if he looked at the story of the radium girls and was disgusted by the fact that the factory was no longer allowed to expose thier employees to radiation knowingly


[21-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, it's an ad from the anti-trump conservative super PAC called the lincoln project


[21-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
it's saying that the number of people killed by coronavirus could have their coffins lined up to build a wall that stretches 60 miles


[21-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Crow#5457
the deaths in the US alone account for over 25% of the confirmed deaths from coronavirus worldwide


[21-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
well, they're going for emotional impact, not factual claims, so I guess it's fine.


[21-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
what about it isn't factual?


[21-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Crow#5457
you can have something both emotional and factual


[21-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
the 'people killed by coronavirus' thing. The way they assigned the label is rather arbitrary, as it would take a healthy individual with only one major issue, and the majority of folks dying are elders, likely with a medical almanac's worth of them. I get that you have to assign it _somehow_, but I'd really rather prefer 'confirmed deaths' or other type of statistics term.


[21-Jul-20 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
except in pretty much every case, they would have continued surviving if they had not contracted coronavirus, and even then, there's still a lot of scientific concern that there's people who died from coronavirus aren't being reported as such


[21-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
coronavirus causes damage across the entire body, not just the lungs


[21-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
kidneys, liver, etc, everything is attacked by this thing


[21-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
there's blood clots all over the body, the blood of the infected becomes way thicker


[21-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
mm, right, I remember reading something like this. Ehh, fair, I still don't like the term, but - fine, it's nitpicking.


[21-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
to say that people who had other medical conditions before contracting coronavirus that they could've died from otherwise but only died after contracting coronavirus is disingenuous at best because if they had never contracted coronavirus, they may have lived for years with their current medical conditions


[21-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that even in cases where there's no outward signs of infection, the virus causes organ damage and blood clotting/thickening, it's just not enough to affect daily life in some people


[21-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://healthcare.utah.edu/publicaffairs/news/2020/06/covid-blood-clots.php

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COVID-19 Causes ‘Hyperactivity’ in Blood-Clotting Cells
Changes in blood platelets triggered by COVID-19 could contribute to the onset of heart attacks, strokes, and other serious complications in some patients who have the disease, according to University of Utah Health scientists.
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[21-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I didn't know asymptomatic cases were also significantly affected.


[21-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://elemental.medium.com/even-if-youre-asymptomatic-the-coronavirus-can-do-damage-4ab22451161a


[21-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
so not quite a sure thing but the potential exists. Still, somewhat concerning.


[21-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[21-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
jfc they'd have a better chance at boosting recruitment after ACTUAL giveaways


[21-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
whoever got that idea has a brain like his 🍆 - small and feeble.


[21-Jul-20 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Penis brain?


[21-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQQdnve5fQk

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Judaism and Whiteness in Wolfenstein
Samuel Beckett once said, “Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness”...on the other hand, he SAID it. 
-Art Spiegelman, 1992

Follow me at https://twitter.com/yacobg42

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[21-Jul-20 08:21 PM] byte[]#2610
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Michael Picard crashes a police rally with an "ALL PIGS MATTER" sign
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[21-Jul-20 08:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/508360-two-judges-recuse-themselves-from-kemp-bottoms-case-regarding-mask

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Two Georgia superior court justices recused themselves from presiding over the lawsuit filed against Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D) by Gov. Brian Kemp (R) over Atlanta's mask mandate on Tuesday.
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[21-Jul-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/508356-white-house-threatens-veto-of-defense-bill-over-confederate-provision

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White House threatens veto of defense bill over Confederate provision
The White House on Tuesday threatened to veto annual defense policy legislation in part because it includes a provision that would direct the Pentagon to rename military bases currently named after Confederate leaders.
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[21-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
pffft so let's hear the drawbacks then xD


[21-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Honahue#0656
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[21-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
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[21-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ what the fuck


[21-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm sorry, what?


[21-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSub4951k9g

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Food Insider
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We Tried $1,000 Gold Chicken Wings With Foodgōd
The Ainsworth in NYC serves a stack of 50 gold-dusted chicken wings for $1,000. The wings are brined in a lemon and bay leaf mix for 12 hours before they are fried and dunked in liquid gold. To top it off, the restaurant covers the wings in $200 worth of 24k gold dust.

See mo...
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[21-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Crow#5457
this


[21-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Honahue#0656
literally conspicuous consumption


[21-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is


[21-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Honahue#0656
"gonna dip the chicken wings in gold"
"does it make it taste better?"
"nope"


[21-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Opponent#3498
interesting?? :wat:


[21-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhXf2Kuk7M

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhXf2Kuk7M
Chappelle's Show --  Eat some dinosaur
Dave and some friends have some dinosaur.  That's Ballin'!
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[21-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Honahue#0656
literally this skit from Chapelle


[21-Jul-20 10:11 PM] paddyratwackpack#2067
chicken


[21-Jul-20 10:11 PM] paddyratwackpack#2067
:stairs:


[21-Jul-20 10:28 PM] jlun2#8758
are they going to dig through their own shit to get the gold back?


[21-Jul-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, though they'll probably photograph their literal shit


[21-Jul-20 10:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's probably automated.


[21-Jul-20 10:38 PM] Honahue#0656
gonna see a return of the gong farmer for wealthy households


[21-Jul-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-speaking-out-about-law-enforcement-wearing-army-uniforms-2020-7

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"We want a system where people can tell the difference," a Pentagon spokesman said Tuesday.
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[21-Jul-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-congressman-calls-aoc-a-f-ing-b-h-2020-7
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-fires-back-at-ted-yoho-hey-btches-get-stuff-done

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Republican Rep. Ted Yoho reportedly called Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez...
Ocasio-Cortez called Yoho's attacks "disgusting" and "virulent harassment" and accused GOP Rep. Roger Williams of lying about his involvement.
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Ocasio-Cortez Fires Back At Ted Yoho: 'Hey, B*tches Get Stuff Done'
Rep. Alexandria Ocaiso-Cortez (D-NY) fired back at Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL) after a report said he had referred to her...
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[22-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
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ACLU (@ACLU)
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BREAKING: Trump tried to add a citizenship question to the census and lost in the Supreme Court.

His latest attempt to weaponize the census for an attack on immigrant communities WILL be found unconstitutional.

We’ll see him in court — and win — again.
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[22-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
excluding undocumented persons completely defeats the purpose of the US census


[22-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1285389052099932165

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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1285389052099932165
A Michigan judge denies the release of a 15-year-old Black girl who has been jailed since mid-May for not doing her online schoolwork. https://t.co/RlOT0iwLl7
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[22-Jul-20 12:45 AM] Crow#5457
imagine living in a country where kids can go to jail for not turning in homework on time... oh wait


[22-Jul-20 12:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Crow, read the article


[22-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kid was apparently violent and was caught stealing shit


[22-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
how does that justify putting a kid in jail for not turning in homework on time?


[22-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't seem like the homework thing had much at all to do with anything


[22-Jul-20 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
it was a contract with the prosecutor


[22-Jul-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
while I think these kinds of things are ridiculous to begin with (why are we threatening to lock up kids again, and then have them plea out to spare themselves?)


[22-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
> Brennan sentenced Grace to "intensive probation," with several requirements, including staying home, checking in with a caseworker, no phone use and completing her schoolwork. But the girl was unable to focus properly while learning from home, and she told a new caseworker in April that she felt anxious about the probation and overwhelmed.
> 
> After her caseworker learned she had fallen back asleep one day and failed to do her homework, a hearing was held in May and the judge decided she had violated the terms of her probation.


[22-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
From what I can tell participation in school was one of the conditions put on her to avoid juvie and she failed it and others


[22-Jul-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
it doesn't seem like the totally evil thing the media makes it out to be


[22-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, it's shit, should have been in proper therapy


[22-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it's not _as_ absurd as the article header makes it out to be


[22-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
she also apparently has some sort of learning disability, it mentions that but doesn't explain what it is


[22-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
missing homework turn-ins should never constitute a violation of parole


[22-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

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Kids for cash scandal
The "kids for cash" scandal centered on judicial kickbacks to two judges at the Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. In 2008, judges Michael Conahan and Mark Ciavarella were accused of accepting money in return for imposing harsh adjudications on...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/LuzerneCountyCourthouseRiverCommons.jpg


[22-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
also, there's a history of this


[22-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
this sort of thing happening isn't some extreme example


[22-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
it's all connected to the private prison industry in the US


[22-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, that's definitely a thing, yes


[22-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Private schools, now there’s private Prisons, what’s next, private property?


[22-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you make imprisonment a business, there will be actors that push for more imprisonment


[22-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Crow#5457
and even if this particular instance isn't a case of corruption, it's still an example of how the private prison industry twists the justice system into a mockery of the word "justice"


[22-Jul-20 01:28 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1285658457102848001

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With all hostages free and the hostage-taker in custody, President Zelensky has deleted the Facebook video of himself complying with the armed man's demand to promote the 2005 film Earthlings featuring narration by Joaquin Phoenix. But here it is for posterity. https://t.co/l...
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[22-Jul-20 01:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Now whole China is discussing about fucking "minorities prerogatives"


[22-Jul-20 01:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Because a Mongolian raped a girl but his college claimed they'll "forgive him anyhow"


[22-Jul-20 01:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Idk how can this even comes to the discussion about minorities... I think it should be a discussion about raping or college corruption


[22-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/KegNowhere/status/1285665339607588873

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@ChristopherJM Guerrilla marketing has gotten out of control. I can appreciate the long game however.
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[22-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/JamieCinch/status/1285224266057875456

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Dear game companies,

Our group of expert approved journalists (@UnbiasedKatie, @journalistew, @lnclusivegamers, @TTransgenderism, @TrentStevensyn, and @JK_Journalist) have produced a list of demands that MUST be met.

#feminism #journalism
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[22-Jul-20 01:39 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Dear game companies. Stop.


[22-Jul-20 01:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
They are bored of adding letters on the right of "LGBT", so this time on the left side


[22-Jul-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
dear twitter users


[22-Jul-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
please try salt substitutes like potassium chloride


[22-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That looks like a shitpost


[22-Jul-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
I sense you are at serious risk of coronary events and potentially fatal hypertension


[22-Jul-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It is


[22-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@journalistew at least is a known shitposting "satire" account


[22-Jul-20 01:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
Is the post satire?
It had better be.


[22-Jul-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It is


[22-Jul-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a discord group that organizes for these sort of trollposts


[22-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they pull it off often very well


[22-Jul-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It doesn't matter if people keep pointing out it's bait, enough people just scan over it, believe it's real, and get angry, and form opinions about "the other side"


[22-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I'm surprised twitter hasn't banned them for "disingenuous social posting" or whatever their weird wording for bait accounts was


[22-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though that might have been facebook


[22-Jul-20 02:06 AM] Serenity#9645
i just feel that its sad that is within the realm of possibility enough that people wont think its satire, kinda like the babaloyn bee posts becoming actual real news months later

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[22-Jul-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And look at all these gamers falling for the bait in the replies section lmfao


[22-Jul-20 02:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you fall for alt-right bait


[22-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, that's the thing, it's almost believable, so it pushes people in the opposite direction really hard


[22-Jul-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The point of it isn't just to make people mad and get laughs out of that


[22-Jul-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well if they're pushed in the opposite direction so easily then i'm not sure they'd be valuable leftists at all in the opposite case


[22-Jul-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's to get people on your side of things


[22-Jul-20 02:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Actual disclosed tactics by governments.


[22-Jul-20 02:12 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean the babaloyn bee makes completely ridiculous posts mocking both sides and is obvious satire, but then actual news comes out that is babaloyn bee news reported months ago and its actually real has happened quite a few times. worlds just kinda fucked enough that in a few months that might actually be some journos demands lol


[22-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Absolute clownshoes crazy people do exist, yes


[22-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sadly it's a thing you see every day on twitter


[22-Jul-20 02:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
`i just feel that its sad that is within the realm of possibility enough that people wont think its satire, kinda like the babaloyn bee posts becoming actual real news months later`
Lol, I've seen people "fact checking" that site.


[22-Jul-20 02:35 AM] Serenity#9645
snopes does that alot


[22-Jul-20 02:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Dumbasses.


[22-Jul-20 02:56 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1285692846742396931?s=21

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Pres. Trump comments on Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, who was arrested on July 2: “I wish her well" https://t.co/9RbmRqrgeq https://t.co/Hg950w87mj
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[22-Jul-20 02:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Death wish. put her on suicide watch.


[22-Jul-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
>I wish her well


[22-Jul-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
are you kidding me


[22-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, sounds like code for "keep quiet or the regular guards will take a long smoking break one day"


[22-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Opponent#3498
he's too dumb for that. It's probably an attempt to sound genuine.


[22-Jul-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Keep quiet or you'll find all the prison guards replaced with military officers in unmarked vans"


[22-Jul-20 04:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
He probably just didn't remember who she was, and figured it was just another random person who was affiliated with him.


[22-Jul-20 04:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
no way trump never heard of her after all the news.


[22-Jul-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/21/892340508/with-no-final-say-trump-wants-to-change-who-counts-for-dividing-up-congress-seat?sc=18&f=892340508

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With No Final Say, Trump Wants To Change Who Counts For Dividing Up...
The president is calling for unauthorized immigrants to be excluded from census numbers used to divide seats in Congress. The Constitution says the count must include every person living in the U.S.
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[22-Jul-20 04:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hmmmmmm


[22-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
I smell the Great Replacement theme.

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[22-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I smell air.


[22-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
exclude the immigrants; the total numbers will dwindle; touch them up a bit and compare them loudly against earlier numbers (neglecting to mention the different counting method)


[22-Jul-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
What a ridiculous headline


[22-Jul-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
The census count is WAY more important than just distributing districts


[22-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/21/voting-arrest-racist-law-north-carolina-lanisha-brachter

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A black woman faces prison for a voting mistake. Prosecutors just d...
Lanisha Bratcher, who voted while on probation in North Carolina without knowing she was ineligible, now faces two felony charges


[22-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't seem like it's her mistake, rather than people who approved her vote.


[22-Jul-20 04:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/u1ovUbSZcXQ

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FragerU - The Left VS The Right
Oops. I'm getting myself into trouble again. Oh well. I'm going to make the content I want to make, & that I believe in, & if you don't like that, fine, but I hope you'll stick around with willingness to change your mind anyway. You're always welcome. If you have serious objec...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u1ovUbSZcXQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Jul-20 04:40 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPGZVhLXUAAFSki.jpg

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[22-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Synfag#9241

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[22-Jul-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
what


[22-Jul-20 05:40 AM] jlun2#8758
sounds hot, but pretty sure thats not the case 
@PwnyPonyhow did this conclusion appear


[22-Jul-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a meme


[22-Jul-20 06:25 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Rainbowbugs are inferior to normal'lings, change my mind.


[22-Jul-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
does this change your mind? https://derpibooru.org/images/45106

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#45106 - animated, applejack, big crown thingy, earth pony, element...
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[22-Jul-20 06:29 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
No, not at all.  #QueenChrysaliswasright


[22-Jul-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://derpibooru.org/images/2127416

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#2127416 - safe, screencap, cozy glow, discord, lord tirek, princes...
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[22-Jul-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
too bad, turned to stone


[22-Jul-20 06:31 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Better than being turned to rainbow.

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[22-Jul-20 06:32 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
https://derpibooru.org/images/2328784

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pirill
https://derpibooru.org/images/2328784
#2328784 - safe, artist:pirill, clypeus, cornicle, queen chrysalis,...
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[22-Jul-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody uploaded the thing I wanted


[22-Jul-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I will upload it myself


[22-Jul-20 06:34 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
I wish the deal with the sparkling wings was expanded upon instead of just being thrown away by the end of the episode.
They could've even ran with that instead of rainbow beetle horses


[22-Jul-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610

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[22-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Serenity#9645
king skittle bug


[22-Jul-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
deerbug lord


[22-Jul-20 06:36 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
King of the nothingbugs


[22-Jul-20 06:36 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Didn't even conquer a single kingdom for a day.


[22-Jul-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610

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[22-Jul-20 06:48 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Boo


[22-Jul-20 06:53 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
The only good thing skittlebugs have going for them is... Pharynx-Thorax incest.


[22-Jul-20 06:57 AM] byte[]#2610

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[22-Jul-20 06:58 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Why do you keep reposting the same thing?


[22-Jul-20 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
enough of that


[22-Jul-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
have some politics https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/philadelphia-da-promises-to-criminally-charge-trumps-dhs-troops-if-they-kidnap-protesters/

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Philadelphia DA Promises to Criminally Charge Trump’s DHS Troops if...
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner promised to criminally charge any federal agents who "unlawfully assault" or "kidnap" Black Lives Matter protesters in the City of Brotherly Love.
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[22-Jul-20 07:00 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
lol


[22-Jul-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm reposting it because I clipped it in higher quality from the source video


[22-Jul-20 07:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Treascair#7785
> have some politics https://lawandcrime.com/george-floyd-death/philadelphia-da-promises-to-criminally-charge-trumps-dhs-troops-if-they-kidnap-protesters/
@byte[] 

A lawyer I follow on Twitter put it as "Philly responds with 'Fuck around and find out, bitch'"

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Philadelphia DA Promises to Criminally Charge Trump’s DHS Troops if...
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner promised to criminally charge any federal agents who "unlawfully assault" or "kidnap" Black Lives Matter protesters in the City of Brotherly Love.
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[22-Jul-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-william-p-barr-announces-launch-operation-legend

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Attorney General William P. Barr Announces Launch of Operation Legend
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[22-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Synfag#9241
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/star-of-david-deemed-hateful-imagery-by-twitter-635847

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Star of David deemed 'hateful imagery' by Twitter
Twitter users found themselves locked out of their accounts after using the Star of David in their profile images.
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[22-Jul-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jul-20 02:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[22-Jul-20 02:53 PM] Synfag#9241

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[22-Jul-20 02:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-ad-police-officer-attacked-2014-ukraine-protests-2020-7

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A new Trump campaign ad depicting a police officer being attacked b...
The Trump campaign wrote "Public safety vs chaos & violence" in an advert with an image that's not from the US protests at all.
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[22-Jul-20 03:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[22-Jul-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Someone please suspend his account

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[22-Jul-20 04:28 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1285825331991949314?s=21

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ye (@kanyewest)
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Says the future president
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[22-Jul-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/business/status/1285898444142514178

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BREAKING: The U.S. enters a pact with Pfizer for 100 million doses of a Covid-19 vaccine which Americans will receive for free https://t.co/q0KkIBT5Cq
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[22-Jul-20 04:39 PM] jlun2#8758
will they even take it tho given strong anti sentiment


[22-Jul-20 04:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pfizer get;s above cost pays in probably tax payer dollars, so probably


[22-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Americans. Free. Something doesn't stack up.


[22-Jul-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Free needs and asterisk next to it


[22-Jul-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m assuming it means "The tax payers are footing the bill for a rushed vaccine that will likely not work as well as intended


[22-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"*Free with purchase of two doses for price of one"


[22-Jul-20 04:41 PM] jlun2#8758
then ppl will screech about 5g autism right


[22-Jul-20 04:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, that's already happening


[22-Jul-20 04:41 PM] byte[]#2610
only 100M?


[22-Jul-20 04:42 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/edpburnerclips/status/1285826447672844293?s=21

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@kanyewest EDP445 for president https://t.co/AwGUUSkQGb
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[22-Jul-20 04:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as in the number of the only americans left alive once the vaccine becomes available

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[22-Jul-20 04:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@illumnious if he make biden lose ill be pissed as hell


[22-Jul-20 04:43 PM] illumnious#7938
I just want Kayne to loose right now


[22-Jul-20 04:43 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuuuuck


[22-Jul-20 04:48 PM] jlun2#8758
then he's going to win because we are sims npcs


[22-Jul-20 04:50 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53489527

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Ukraine hostages freed after President Zelensky plugs Joaquin Phoen...
The Ukrainian leader says he agreed to one of the gunman's demands in order to free 13 people.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/BBD6/production/_113568084_mediaitem113566194.jpg


[22-Jul-20 04:51 PM] jlun2#8758
weird way to advertise but sure


[22-Jul-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-rep-ted-yoho-denies-he-called-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-a-f-ing-b-h-2020-7

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Republican Rep. Ted Yoho denies calling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a ...
"The offensive name-calling words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues," the congressman claimed.
https://i.insider.com/5f184be54dca6816cc71d78d?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Crow#5457
"I didn't say it, but if I did, I'm sorry"


[22-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/22/893899254/down-in-the-polls-trump-pitches-fear-they-want-to-destroy-our-suburbs

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Down In The Polls, Trump Pitches Fear: 'They Want To Destroy Our Su...
President Trump won suburban voters narrowly in 2016, but now he's getting swamped in the polls with them against Joe Biden. Trump is trying to turn it around with a heavy dose of fear.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/07/21/gettyimages-1011077776_wide-45715959adfecf7252a31d05e97ff8273653ca8f.jpg?s=1400


[22-Jul-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't think that's going to work


[22-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil/brazils-bolsonaro-tests-positive-for-the-novel-coronavirus-again-idUSKCN24N1P9

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Brazil's Bolsonaro tests positive for the novel coronavirus again
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has had another positive result for the novel coronavirus in the third test he has taken since falling ill on July 7, a secretariat of the Communications Ministry said on Wednesday.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200722&t=2&i=1526706135&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG6L0XK


[22-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, bolsonaro is a homo now


[22-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Crow#5457
(and he got coronavirus for a second time)


[22-Jul-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
actually, it's not clear if he got it a second time or if he still has the initial infection


[22-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He was also bitten by an emu


[22-Jul-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For the second time, in the presidential palace.


[22-Jul-20 07:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/508501-ocasio-cortez-wont-accept-yoho-apology-hes-refusing-responsibility

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Ocasio-Cortez won't accept Yoho apology: He's 'refusing responsibil...
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday refused to accept an apology from Rep.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ocasiocortezalexandria_102219as2_lead.jpg


[22-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[22-Jul-20 07:29 PM] illumnious#7938
Damm


[22-Jul-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/508526-dc-mayor-issues-order-requiring-masks-outside-home

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DC mayor issues order requiring masks outside home
Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser (D) on Wednesday announced an executive order requiring residents to wear masks outside of the home as the city battles rising coronavirus cases.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bowsermuriel_062520bc3_lead.jpg


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
>Joe Biden more authoritarian that Stalin

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[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
The political compass showing Trump more authoritarian than Hitler is actually pretty spot-on from what I understand of the leadershipstyles.


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Joe and Hillary are definitely placed wrong.


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not perfect on the social liberalism but pretty close on economic.


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Them and Warren should hav vertical position halved.


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Everyone is placed wrong except maybe Hitler


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie and Marx should be moved diagonally towards the green


[22-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ayn Rand should be moved a bit down


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump is not more authoritarian than Hitler. Trump doesn't put people in camps, stop them leaving the country etc


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
He does put people into camps, actually.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Ayn Rand should be moved almost into the bottom right corner.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Just, ones he plans to deport or let die.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Nazis did deport Jews originally, by the way.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Trump also isnt a pure Free Market Capitalist.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I dont remember Jews fleeing in the direction of Nazi Germany, only away from it.


[22-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was later on that they went the route of working them to death, and then later, gassing.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
The distinction isn't that important.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Trump is not nearly as authorotarian than Hitler holy shit


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Frosku#5874
However bad Trumps camps are, they haven't stopped people fleeing towards them.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump still wants people rounded up into camps and given horrible conditions leading to many preventable deaths.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
People run to get a better life in the US at large.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Frosku#5874
That definitely wasnt the case with Hitler


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hoping they can avoid the camps.


[22-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
Germany was not doing too well in the 30s.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Frosku#5874
No Jews were like "Oh I'll chance the camps" no matter how good the German economy was.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Yes, Trump's death camps


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
The German economy wasn't very good.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was little reason to migrate to Germany at the time.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Frosku#5874
It was flying in the 30s thanks to massive stimulus spending which would have fallen apart over time.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many people had even left to territory that Hitler then decided to conquer.


[22-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean lots of white Europeans moved to Germany for a better life.


[22-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Also AFAIK Trump hasn't had anyone shot for disagreeing with him. The Trump-Hitler comparisons are utterly ridiculous.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump is a buffoon with thin skin who struggles to deal with people who disagree with him, but he's not a totalitarian dictator.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump doesn't need to shoot people, he has an army of lawyers, is immune to criminal law, and isn't impeachable.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Frosku#5874
CNN would not have been allowed to exist in Nazi Germany.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump only lakks the means at the moment to go after them.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Hitler wouldn't have just called them liars (lugenpresse), he would have had their editors shot and their offices closed.


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
If you say anything bad about Trump the Gestapo comes to your house and kills you and sends your family to the Death CampTM


[22-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moment he had some restraints out of the way, he'd destroy them.


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Phelan#7647
Here's proof that Trump isn't as authoritarian as Hitler
Trump let the 2018 elections happen


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're both confusing actual practice with political position.


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being more authoritarian than Hitler doesn't mean being more powerful than Hitler.


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I dont think Trump is against free speech in general though.


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means wanting to use more power of the gov't than Hitler.


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I think your confusing CNN with reality


[22-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
Hes not an illiberal person, hes just rude. Maybe that's not a good quality for a President.


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's a lot more than just rude.


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Frankly I'd be rude too if the press ignored everything good I did and went after me all the time.


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I lose patience pretty easily


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's an excuse for his bad behavior.


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Phelan#7647
when I'm getting absolutely hounded for everything


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, that's why I dont run for POTUS, I expect better character from the President than I do from me.


[22-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Putting yes-men in cabinet positions isn't okay because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Killing brown children isn't okay because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Phelan#7647
including having two scoops of ice cream


[22-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not a huge Trump fan, but hes not Hitler. Hes just rude and thin-skinned.


[22-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
Having the EPA change a rule so that 4 people die a day for a few million in profits to companies isn't okay just because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Frosku#5874
I wasnt a huge Obama fan either. I could handle Dubya if not for the wars.


[22-Jul-20 08:21 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Dubya was possibly the worst president ever.


[22-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Frosku#5874
He really wasnt, other than the wars.


[22-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ignoring briefings on intelligence matters isn't okay just because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Theres a big gap between not okay and Hitler though, that's my point.


[22-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
Firing people from their positions after they did their job by investigating you isn't okay just because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea exactly (also why the slowmode?)


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Pretty much every POTUS has fired people for stupid reasons though.


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to bribe a foreign leader to slander your political opponent isn't okay just because you got yelled at.


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't make it okay.


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not "a stupid reason"


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Again though, we have not okay over here, and Hitler all the way over here.


[22-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's an abuse of power to shut down attempts to uncover wrongdoing.


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Trump fired people he didnt like
Hitler killed people he didnt like


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump fired people who tried to put the law above him, because he wants to be above the law.


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Frosku#5874
He also let Muller run, and let the ridiculous bribery investigation run


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
That is the biggest threat to democracy there is.


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't ridiculous.


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Every president kicks out the people from the last president


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
He in a phone call made a very clear deal.


[22-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Both of them went nowhere, because there was nothing in them. They were there for the media.


[22-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump isn't just kikking out a few people in cabinet positions.


[22-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
He's been kikking out so many that the state dept. is completely gutted.


[22-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's destroying our country's ability to do anything.


[22-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, Mueller's report was utterly damning.


[22-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean no, the senate/house split is.


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Frosku#5874
It really wasnt. Mueller himself said there was no evidence of collusion.


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Muellers report was nothing


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
The state dept. is something different than passing bills. It handles ambassadorial duties. You need senior state dept. officials to do that and keep soft power.


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
On the contrary, Mueller's report showed obstruction of justice.


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Frosku#5874
You know what we have gotten done?


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
It very explicitly stated that Trump had tried repeatedly to stop the investigation.


[22-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Frosku#5874
300 constitutional originalist federal judges


[22-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Barr's reading of that was that it's not obstruction if the underlying crime isn't proved, but this is **flatout incorrect**.


[22-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Phelan#7647
Originalism is pretty guud


[22-Jul-20 08:26 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
What else did it find?


[22-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, repealed the Obamacare mandate, and a massive tax cut.


[22-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
It found evidence for the underlying crime, but not enuff to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.


[22-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do realize, if you try to hassle a police officer to not search your stuff, so your buddy destroys some documents, and call up the mayor to fire that officer.


[22-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter whether you really did the crime or not, that's still obstruction of justice.


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It doesnt matter if you did the crime or not, It matters if there was a reason to do the investigation anyway


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump very well could've done the underlying crime, and the investigation couldn't find the evidence *because* of the obstruction.


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
There was a lot of reason to do the investigation.


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Quite a bit of shady shit was going on.


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Point to the man and i will find the crime


[22-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even without the Steele Dossier, there was still sufficient evidence to move forward with the investigation.


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
The reason to do the investigation is that the Democrats, who paid for a fake dossier and leaked the fake dossier to the FBI, were butthurt about losing to Trump.


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Obstruction of justice when no crime is committed is extremely difficult to prove.
You need to prove that the person *thought* that they were committing a crime


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Again, Stelle Dossier not necessary.


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's not correct, @Phelan


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd be butthurt about losing to Trump too tbh, he was a mediocre candidate.


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction of justice does not care what you thought about the crime.


[22-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
It only requires that you intend to obstruct.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Which is hard to prove if theres nothing to obstruct *from*.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you believe you are innocent, and you go about trying to stop the police from investigating, it's obstruction.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's again not relevant.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Obstruction **DOESN'T CARE** whether the original crime exists.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Its politics. Everyone is guilty of something. If having the microscope of the house on your every move youve ever made didnt find anything damning enough to remove from office, it's possible there wasnt anything there to begin with.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It **ONLY** cares about whether you intend to obstruct and actually do something.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah all politicians should be strung up


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Phelan#7647
Obstruction requires "mens rea" which means "acting in a guilty mind"


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
You can be completely innocent and think you're completely innocent.


[22-Jul-20 08:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
none of them are without sin - none of them


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
You have to prove the intent, which is difficult in these circumstances.


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
That refers to the obstruction itself, @Phelan


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Dylan#7259
It's actually kind of ironic if you think about what previous presidents might have been found guilty of if they were subject to such a thorough investigation


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
not the crime you're being investigated for.


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
If there was a case, someone would have made the case. There wasn't so they didn't.


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
You only need to be acting in a guilty mind with regards to trying to obstruct.


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
@Dylan no they've done nothing ever bad ever of course not.


[22-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, if you are after ending the investigation other than by lawful means like providing evidence you didn't do it.


[22-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm honestly just after 4 more years of not having to worry about the feds stealing my money or my guns tbh


[22-Jul-20 08:32 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
And what do you do if the investigation continues anyway?


[22-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you believe you are innocent of a crime you are under investigation for, and you trip the officer to break evidence he's holding, because you just want to get on with your life free of the investigation, that's obstruction of justice.


[22-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
You as the one under investigation are supposed to proceed as normal, tell the truth when under oath and to the FBI, etc.


[22-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Phelan#7647
That's acting in a guilty conscious if you think that the investigation may bear fruit.


[22-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Dylan#7259
In that context, it's genuinely funny that Trump could be considered squeaky clean compared to other presidents as of late


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Dylan#7259
Imagine Clinton being investigated


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trump has repeatedly stated he took actions in order to end the investigation because he did not like it being there.


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Until the Dems stop threatening to take my stuff and take my guns


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
To bribe people into continuing to vote for them


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I'll pretty much vote for anyone the GOP put in front of me

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[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
For any normal person, just a single one of the tweets would be sufficient to prove the *mens rea*.


[22-Jul-20 08:34 PM] aperture_tech#5247
lol


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Phelan#7647
>(you)


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot more than just the tweets.


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I wouldnt, fuck most of the GOP they're willing to take guns too.


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Just being real with you here, because there was a time when I was more likely to lean Dem than Republican.


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] aperture_tech#5247
lol I post shit on twitter when I'm drunk I don't even fucking care what people post on twitter


[22-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Phelan#7647
Also, why the slowmode, it wasn't here when we started talking.


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Tweeting is obstruction of justice


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying that you fired an investigator to end an investigation while drunk is not a good idea.


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] aperture_tech#5247
lol


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that's a stupid twisting of what I said, Foxtrot.


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Stop arguing in bad faith.


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Dylan#7259
Twitter is  a scourge on this goddamn Earth, it genuinely makes people mentally ill and we'd all be better off had it never existed in the first place


[22-Jul-20 08:36 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm gonna be president and only make decisions when drunk because it's funny


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Youd unironically do better than most presidents


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean I'd be happy if you managed to prove Trump did something wrong. Pence is far more economically liberal.


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
He obstructed justice.


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Put him at the helm, I'd be perfectly okay with that.


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Nebbie#8545
The obstruction was proven about 5x beyond what any normal person would need to be put in jail in court.


[22-Jul-20 08:37 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Pence is a neocon


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Until that's proven in court though its just conjecture.


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, that's just your opinion


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Pence is more of a paleocon.


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
The sham trial in the Senate did not vindicate.


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Nebbie#8545
A trial without evidence being presented is crazy.


[22-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Phelan#7647
I agree, it shouldn't have even gotten to the senate


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's extremely wrong to say.


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
The House's role in impeachment is to act as a grand jury.


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Phelan#7647
No it's not, I said it.


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
A grand jury's role is to look at initial evidence and decide whether a trial is necessary.


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Dylan#7259
The House trail was just as much of a sham, it's a sham how partisan the whole thing was through and through


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
The sham trial in the house did not prove anything


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
That much evidence would easily pass any grand jury standard for a normal person.


[22-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was not a trial.


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a vote to impeach.


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know what a grand jury is?


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Phelan#7647
Note how you didn't say that it wasn't a sham


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Frosku#5874
It's really not, the evidence was nonsense. Trump as President is charged with uncovering corruption, if he believes Hunter Biden is involved in corruption, he is breaking his oath if he doesn't press foreign powers to investigate it.


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] aperture_tech#5247
impeachment should not be used as a political tool


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Dylan#7259
^


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
A grand jury with that phone call would call for a trial for any normal person.


[22-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The House in this case acted as a grand jury.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is highly illogical to say that the House acted incorrectly.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, the dems opened a pandora's box that should've stayed closed
Same thing with the Kavanaugh stuff.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Frosku#5874
That's never been the standard though or every president ever would be impeached multiple times.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was the standard for Clinton.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Why is it different now that it's the other party?


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Frosku#5874
That too, the Kavanaugh hearing was a disgrace.


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] aperture_tech#5247
it's fucking gay no matter what party does it


[22-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Frosku#5874
I would have opposed Clinton's impeachment tbh, I really don't give a fuck who hes shagging.


[22-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't about whether he had sex with her, it was about lying under oath.


[22-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Frosku#5874
It's his private life


[22-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Its between him, his wife, his mistress, and God.


[22-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Phelan#7647
lol


[22-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It did hav a significantly more targeted investigation.


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] aperture_tech#5247
lol


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The Starr investigation makes Mueller's investigation look like a friendly chat.


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Clinton did nothing wrong by sleeping with Monical Lewinsky.


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The whole scandal was tangential to what Starr was looking for.


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Frosku#5874
The Kavanaugh hearing was far worse than either tbh


[22-Jul-20 08:43 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I mean, cheating on his demon of a wife is something wrong.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Hearings and investigations aren't really comparable in this manner.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
The hearing was more like a mokk trial.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Where are the piss tapes? where is the elevator tape that may or may not exist?


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
There shouldnt have been an House impeachment vote for that specific thing


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
And Kavanaugh lied under oath at that hearing, of course.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Just utterly disgraceful, what happened to that man in the public eye. Any judge would've thrown that out.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Wheres the Trimp Nword tape?


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
You understand that these interviews were facilitated in order to entrap people, right?


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Frosku the hearing wasn't to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


[22-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Same place as the Steele Dossier, the land of fiction.


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Phelan#7647
I've heard Biden say the N-word (hard r and all) more than Trump


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was about whether there were significant concerns about a man about to be put into the highest judicial position in the nation.


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Dylan#7259
The fact that Biden is apparently the best the Democratic Party can find :twinoose:


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Frosku#5874
@Nebbie The hearing was to do a hatchet job on a great judge. There was never going to be any substantial evidence heard.


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Its not the best the party could find, its what the insiders chose before any primary was held


[22-Jul-20 08:45 PM] aperture_tech#5247
you sound like my parents, talking about what it means to be presidential. FFS, we had presidents who tried to commit genocide. Presidential doesn't mean shit


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
if Toon Kritic was going to become a SCOTUS justice, and he denied everything, would you allow him to be one?


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no because he was an analcyst


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause we know Kavanaugh lied, in regards to allegations.


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
who?


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Dylan#7259
Joe "Poor Kids Are Just as Bright as White Kids" Biden


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
A: how did kavanaugh lie, and 
B: are you going to address the entrapment issue?


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh brought evidence of his own accord


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
a calendar with words written on it.


[22-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Crow#5457
kavanaugh lied about boofing


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
He then misrepresented several of the phrases used.


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Devil's triangle" and "boofing" were the big two.


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
What does misrepresenting words mean?  And what the hell is 'boofing'?

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[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] aperture_tech#5247
A calendar with words written on it is just as good as the claims against him


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Frosku#5874
I dont know much about ToonKritic but if the allegations magically appeared during a hearing yeah I'd be pretty sceptical.


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Dylan#7259
Boofing is sticking drugs up your butt


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Devil's triangle is a sex position that he passed off as a drinking game.


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
There was no evidence against him or for him. It was word against word. Innocent until proven guilty.


[22-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Boofing is more commonly referring to vomiting.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I thought boofing was smoking weed


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Devils Triangle to refer to a sex game didnt appear until the 80s


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
He passed it off as being about flatulence to avoid saying the guys got drunk that day.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Are you saying that he said these words meant something different?


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
This was in the 80s.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
His claims about the meaning of the words don't make sense.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] aperture_tech#5247
who cares if a dude gets drunk with the boys


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Boofing is putting drugs up your ass


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh's allegations care.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
The allegations refer to a drunken night at a party.


[22-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Ralphing is vomiting.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
IS it possible that either he doesn't remember, or had different meanings for these words than most people?


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's extremely unlikely.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, you need to eliminate both those options


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes, allegations that have thoroughly been rejected. He's been a fair SCOTUS judge


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is far more likely he deliberately misrepresented them.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
but that unlikely doesn't mean no


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Frosku#5874
The fact that a college kid may have drunk too much or slept around or fucked around with drugs honestly is irrelevant.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
We cannot prove anything 100%.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
But we do not need to.


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
And more importantly, why is this enough to disqualify him?


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Phelan#7647
YES YOU FUCKING DO


[22-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is below 100%.


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is closer to 90%.


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Or most of us who went to college are ineligible for any position of relevance


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no it isn't


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Isn't the phrase 'innocent until proven guilty'?  That implies 100%


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
You need to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and there is a reasoanable doubt


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
*beyond a reasonable doubt*


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
95% according to official docs in US court


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
A 1% doubt is considered unreasonable.


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] aperture_tech#5247
innocent until proven guilty is part of the constitution. I don't believe in convicting people wrongly


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
You have to believe there is a 95% likelihood that the person was guilty.


[22-Jul-20 08:50 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
How do you calculate that?


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
a party 30 years ago in which multiple people said different things about it.


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
That's what official jury guidance says


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Based on estimation of probabilities.


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
We can estimate the probability that Kavanaugh had different word meanings


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Based on what?


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
By looking at various instances of the words in similar areas.


[22-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I would honestly estimate that quite high, because we didnt have national slang before the Internet. It was regional.


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
A single individual could make up words with their friends and never share it


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
His friends could all be individually questioned on it.


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] aperture_tech#5247
now you are just mincing words. If you want to go after trump, kavanaugh is a dead end tbh


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, my elementary school had it's own slang


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Hell, I did that.


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Frosku#5874
They were though


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
As well as people from the same school.


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about going after Trump, aperture, why would it be?


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Frosku#5874
Multiple of his friends testified to his definitions


[22-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's about who is let on the damn court.


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch had none of these issues, just odd jurisprudence.


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Phelan#7647
People still attacked him personally


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no verifiable evidence was brought up


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Gorsuch was replacing Scalia, he was never going to be fought as hard as Kavanaugh


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
What do personal attakks hav to do with who is allowed on the court?


[22-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
now you're coming up with an unlikely hypothetical, kavanaugh at the very least was evasive and misdirected multiple times, both big red flags for someone that's supposed to be impartial being nominated for a lifetime position on the highest court in the country


[22-Jul-20 08:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
so far he has been impartial in his rulings


[22-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not convinced of that.


[22-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially his rulings on that tribe in Washington and on Title VII.


[22-Jul-20 08:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't see how it's okay to block a SCOTUS pick using allegations that have no evidence


[22-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Phelan#7647
I was talking about Gorsuch, because of what happened, was attacked personally on a multitude of times. I've seen people say that because of it, he's not really the judge. So they're literally going after Gorsuch's job.


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Remember when the media said he is far right and was going to end abortion? That didnt happen


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Dylan#7259
Can we acknowledge how utterly fucking bullshit it is that Obama got stonewalled for like, what was it, 8+ fucking months to put someone in the SCOTUS?


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's how the pikk *responds to* that evidence.


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, that was bullshit


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
A judge who tries to evade, misdirect, and undermine the very hearing is not good.


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Dylan#7259
At the time I didn't care about politics at all and it still pissed me off


[22-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Phelan#7647
A sham trial isn't very good either.


[22-Jul-20 08:56 PM] aperture_tech#5247
god I can feel my IQ dropping talking about politics. I'm done here, this shit is fucking stupid


[22-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
Kavanaugh's ruling on Title VII was extremely...evasive.


[22-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/15/20866829/brett-kavanaugh-perjury-confirmation-hearing-deborah-ramirez-new-allegations

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Did Brett Kavanaugh perjure himself during his confirmation hearing?
New allegations are raising questions about whether he met the very high bar for perjury.
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[22-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Nebbie#8545
He seemed to want to score good boy brownie points with the left despite ruling against.


[22-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Dylan#7259
whenever I talk about politics I get the same feeling, Carlin was right, just enjoy the show


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Phelan#7647
>vox


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch meanwhile just went "what part of don't discriminate on sex do you not understand?"


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Why are you using vox as a source, seriously.


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Vox is generally reliable, with high factual reporting.


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Phelan#7647
>(you)


[22-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Phelan you're going to stop that now.


[22-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is a debate channel, not 4chan.


[22-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
that article is an aggregation of the times kavanaugh was evasive and not forthright about questions during the investigation


[22-Jul-20 08:58 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Vox is horrendous as a source, I don't trust a single thing they say.


[22-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Phelan#7647
Exactly what I was saying, just used a single word


[22-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
btw, multiple classmates refuted his claim that "boof" meant "flatulence" at their high school


[22-Jul-20 08:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
vox is as much of a joke as the atlantic


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] aperture_tech#5247
same level of discourse tbh


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I'd say the Atlantic is worse, just not by much.


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
@QueenieChryssie then find another source on the same story.


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] aperture_tech#5247
both of them remind me of something like buzzfeed news or breitbart


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
If other sources don't corroborate, don't believe.


[22-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-yearbook-devils-triangle-boofing-renate-ralph-club.html

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Kavanaugh’s Explanations for His Racy Yearbook References Do Not Pa...
Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game? Ralph Club refers to a weak stomach? Boofing is flatulence? C’mon!
https://compote.slate.com/images/c44ed9fe-1769-4a31-820b-d3e014c90f91.jpeg


[22-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
If other sources do corroborate, then believe the basis and examine.


[22-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Spending all day talking about which sources you think are good is not productive vs. actually examining the claims, if they can be corroborated.


[22-Jul-20 09:02 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Look at the sources of an article first, a lot of media sources use other media sources as a source.


[22-Jul-20 09:02 PM] aperture_tech#5247
if all the sources are run by retards, I take it with a grain of salt. These "news aggregators" run an incestuous cocktail circlejerk where they source other media


[22-Jul-20 09:03 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Lets say someone makes a tweet and news 1 reports on it, citing the tweet, then news 2 uses news 1 as a source for their article, then news 3 uses 1 and 2 as a source, then so on.


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a hypothetical.


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
I spotted two people deliberately arguing in bad faith within the past half hour


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
are you going to mute them?


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
That's not hypothetical, that happens with a fuckton of media.


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Things are definitely getting close to using mutes.


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
As for the source...


[22-Jul-20 09:04 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
look at sources is what im saying.


[22-Jul-20 09:06 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/brett-kavanaugh-perjury-investigation-probe-democrats-house-judiciary-committee-a8740831.html This is better, no?

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Brett Kavanaugh 'likely' to be investigated for perjury, House judi...
Multiple Democrats on the House panel seen discussing latest Supreme Court justice's possible impeachment
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/10/06/09/brett-kavanaugh.jpg


[22-Jul-20 09:07 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Was just a few spots down.


[22-Jul-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Vox's name has been poisoned


[22-Jul-20 09:08 PM] aperture_tech#5247
vice as well, vice used to be decent


[22-Jul-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Believe it or not, they do just fine on factual reporting... and so does Buzzfeed... and a lot of other names which have been dragged through the mud for various reasons


[22-Jul-20 09:09 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
That'd be almost all media, no?  The hyperpartisan divide only appeared recently.


[22-Jul-20 09:09 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a real issue when these publications put factual articles next to opinion pieces


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
Independent actually has a lower factual reporting score than Vox, lol


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
From who?


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> It's a real issue when these publications put factual articles next to opinion pieces
@aperture_tech  so does NYT lol


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
the only difference is that the independent is based in the UK


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah and NYT sucks


[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/buzzfeed/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vice-news/

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The Independent - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources ar...
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Buzzfeed - Media Bias/Fact Check
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources ar...
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Vice Media - Media Bias/Fact Check
Overall, we rate Vice Media Left-Center Biased due to wording and story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting
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[22-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Nebbie#8545
Doesn't Fox put opinion next to non-opinion?


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes and fox sucks


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's a bit annoying, but I wouldn't call it a major problem.


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't trust these publications


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
okay, that's not an excuse to disregard any information from them


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Nebbie#8545
What *do* you trust?


[22-Jul-20 09:11 PM] byte[]#2610
if you don't like that, then you're not gonna like how they all buy their stories from AP


[22-Jul-20 09:12 PM] aperture_tech#5247
nothing is in the realm of the truth. I have to personally disseminate everything to the point where it is so much work I can't find anything out. And yes, I know about the AP


[22-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
That seems like an excuse to disregard stories that disagree with you.


[22-Jul-20 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So you're just lazy?


[22-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't just put things in a binary.


[22-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Believe things at like, 80% when there's corroboration.


[22-Jul-20 09:13 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Corroboration from who though?


[22-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anything close to reputable.


[22-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Don't fully believe or disregard anything.


[22-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've yet to see even Fox and CNN's online articles just make shit up.


[22-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
(their TV coverage is another matter)


[22-Jul-20 09:14 PM] aperture_tech#5247
they gotta keep the news up, so at some point they need a constant flow


[22-Jul-20 09:14 PM] aperture_tech#5247
anything they say I'm skeptical of


[22-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is a constant flow.


[22-Jul-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
media can and do manufacture controversy for ratings, but as far as I know manufacturing reality is not a relevant problem


[22-Jul-20 09:15 PM] byte[]#2610
all they have to do is find a couple of idiots on twitter to say something and then it's a story


[22-Jul-20 09:15 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I don't trust any media, but certain media I refuse to even give the time of day because of constant deceit.  Also, this list you gave is pretty good so far.


[22-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Honahue#0656
this is an issue with having to keep advertising to keep profitable. Print media had a lot of ad revenue which is what paid for long term investigative reporting, it's just not profitable in todays media climate


[22-Jul-20 09:16 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Fuck the annoying ads though...


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
advertising is the worst thing that has ever happened to the human brain


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Honahue#0656
this is why every news report is fast and vapid


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
use adblock and ublock and scriptblocker


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I block ads everywhere but it's still getting to my psyche


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Honahue#0656
that exaserbates the problem, but still do it


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
also archive news reports before sharing them


[22-Jul-20 09:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
my friends are turned into walking ads as well


[22-Jul-20 09:18 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I have adblock on and I'm still getting ads.


[22-Jul-20 09:19 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
There's literally an ad for an ad remover


[22-Jul-20 09:19 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
you need ublock


[22-Jul-20 09:19 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
adblock allows "acceptable" ads


[22-Jul-20 09:19 PM] aperture_tech#5247
we are about to step into a world where adblock AI and adblock blocking AI do battle


[22-Jul-20 09:20 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Wait... PragerU isn't fake news, wtf.


[22-Jul-20 09:20 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but yeah use ublock. Prager is fucking braindead though


[22-Jul-20 09:20 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Nah, I know, I was joking.


[22-Jul-20 09:20 PM] aperture_tech#5247
good. That's some of the most boomer shit I've ever seen


[22-Jul-20 09:21 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
what exactly is prager, I thought it was just a youtube channel


[22-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Honahue#0656
Dennis Prager has a AM talk radio show so its about as braindead as is possible


[22-Jul-20 09:23 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
When you're on the right and argue that socialism is actually conservatism, I'm seriously concerned.


[22-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ovUbSZcXQ

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DarkMatter2525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ovUbSZcXQ
FragerU - The Left VS The Right
Oops. I'm getting myself into trouble again. Oh well. I'm going to make the content I want to make, & that I believe in, & if you don't like that, fine, but I hope you'll stick around with willingness to change your mind anyway. You're always welcome. If you have serious objec...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u1ovUbSZcXQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[22-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Honahue#0656
I listened to it once cause I was borrowing my dad's car and I'm pretty sure he pops a couple of benzo's before going on air and has some assistants to keep him from getting fully off topic


[22-Jul-20 09:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
The only thing I fuck with on AM radio is coast to coast


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
AM radio hurts my ears


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] byte[]#2610
Tucker Carlson does the same thing lol


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] aperture_tech#5247
also I am worried about my dad. I think he secretly took my old ADHD meds and my sister's painkillers


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
turn off the car radio when driving, it distracts you from the road


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Tucker carlson is entertaining though.


[22-Jul-20 09:24 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I only listen to pony music when driving


[22-Jul-20 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/jt3ufinkdfr41

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Peak auth unity achieved
Posted in r/PoliticalCompassMemes by u/sirfirewolfe • 45,519 points and 3,695 comments
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[22-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
PragerU is a youtube channel that promotes egregrious strawmans as legitimate leftist positions and claims to be a "university"


[22-Jul-20 09:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
not even conservatives like pragerU


[22-Jul-20 09:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU

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PragerU
PragerU, short for Prager University, is an American non-profit organization that creates videos on various political, economic, and philosophical topics from an American conservative or right-wing perspective. The organization was co-founded by talk show host and writer Denni...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Prager_University_Logo.png


[22-Jul-20 09:26 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I'm not sure if prageru fits in the neocon category.


[22-Jul-20 09:26 PM] Crow#5457
I love how bad the logo preview looks on dark mode


[22-Jul-20 09:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Shit videos. Shittier ideas.


[22-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Crow#5457
and that's not entirely true, I've had multiple conservatives unironically link pragerU in arguments and attempt to use them as legitimate sources


[22-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Crow#5457
iirc one even did it in this channel a couple years ago


[22-Jul-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve had several people unironically use pragerU to prove why BLM is a terrorist organization


[22-Jul-20 09:28 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I have done that years ago before I realized what they were saying.  But that doesn't mean they are actually conservative.


[22-Jul-20 09:29 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Actually, they aren't conservative, but are they pro free market...?


[22-Jul-20 09:29 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
prager is boomer shit


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Dylan#7259
That Darkmatter video is like a parody of conservatives 10 years ago


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Honahue#0656
Prager is enocon they want both free market capitalism and to litigate JudaoChristian morality


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
tbqh the best source is the onion


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.prageru.com/video/conservatives-are-the-real-environmentalists/

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Conservatives Are the Real Environmentalists
Environmentalists are certain conservatives don’t care about clean air and clean water; that they’re happy to trade the planet for profit. Is it true? Do conservatives really care more about green pockets than green forests? Michael Knowles offers a much-needed new perspective...
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/Ik9VVBGC/poster.jpg?width=1280


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
pragerU is very much conservative


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
prageru is neocon


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
no...


[22-Jul-20 09:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
note their aggressive love for israel


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I know about that, but that doesn't make them conservative.


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
conservative and liberal are fucked terms when it comes to us politics


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
it makes them neocon


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Honahue#0656
I'll never understand JudeaChristian values tho cause Judism and Christianity have vastly different ideas about salvation, Judism has more in common with Islam


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.prageru.com/educators/

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Educators
Free Videos. Free Minds.
https://www.prageru.com/sites/all/themes/prageru/images/ogimage-default.png


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but the policies they state are far more neocon than anything.


[22-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
apparently they even have a network of "Educators" that use their videos in classrooms


[22-Jul-20 09:32 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
That isn't very surprising, considering the shit I had to sit through in school.


[22-Jul-20 09:32 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Oh boy, it's time to learn how marxism is american values!


[22-Jul-20 09:34 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
if your browser doesn't have at least these you're doing something wrong.

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[22-Jul-20 09:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I have μblock and μmatrix


[22-Jul-20 09:36 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
There are people on the internet right now who actually don't block ads


[22-Jul-20 09:38 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
What is with your 'u's


[22-Jul-20 09:38 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
mÖÖsebug


[22-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Frosku#5874
My browser doesn't need these plugins, Brave has these as built in core features:p


[22-Jul-20 09:40 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't trust brave


[22-Jul-20 09:41 PM] aperture_tech#5247
If they were serious I could build brave from source


[22-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Frosku#5874
You can


[22-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Frosku#5874
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser

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brave/brave-browser
Next generation Brave browser for macOS, Windows, Linux, Android. - brave/brave-browser
https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/12301619?s=400&v=4


[22-Jul-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Can, but shouldn't


[22-Jul-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
Just use mozilla and be careful


[22-Jul-20 09:44 PM] Frosku#5874
No thanks, I'm hardly going to trust a foundation that fires people for wrong think to guide me through cancel culture.


[22-Jul-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll leave it to you then when it's reported that brave is silently selling you as a product... again... for the seventh time


[22-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Its not exactly silent, BAT is opt in


[22-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I just use Waterfox :shrugpony:


[22-Jul-20 09:50 PM] byte[]#2610
p sure waterfox is compromised


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Just switch to Bold if you don't like BAT


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
And I wasn't talking about BAT, because that's obviously opt in, I was talking about the history of privacy and advertising related scandals with the Brave team


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Time to switch to the all-new *Microsoft Edge™*


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] 
> be careful
Where do I get this tips list?


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
🤮


[22-Jul-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Edge: Where the future is Chrome™


[22-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Marukomuru#8409
"we even backported this to windows 8 please use our browser :CCCC"


[22-Jul-20 09:52 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ https://wiki.mozilla.org/Privacy/Privacy_Task_Force/firefox_about_config_privacy_tweeks

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Firefox about config privacy tweeks


[22-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
thank you


[22-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> Website owners can track the battery status of your device


[22-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[22-Jul-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
more tips
https://gist.github.com/0XDE57/fbd302cef7693e62c769
https://gist.github.com/haasn/69e19fc2fe0e25f3cff5/7fe9015d6e903e6a25d617594d9d18ef144f7b82

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Firefox about:config privacy settings
Firefox about:config privacy settings. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
https://github.githubassets.com/images/modules/gists/gist-og-image.png

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Firefox bullshit removal via about:config
Firefox bullshit removal via about:config. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
https://github.githubassets.com/images/modules/gists/gist-og-image.png


[22-Jul-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
@Marukomuru yes, it's for MSE video playback purposes


[22-Jul-20 09:54 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Do not use chrome or edge


[22-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also apparently tweeting doesn't work entirely as expected if you disable clipboard events


[22-Jul-20 09:55 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
That's probably an improvement, considering Twitter makes everything worse.


[22-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Definitely made Derpi worse


[22-Jul-20 09:56 PM] aperture_tech#5247
don't use mozilla either


[22-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Use Brave or Bold


[22-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Marches[45]#0674
That took a turn.


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] aperture_tech#5247
brave uses chromium


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Frosku#5874
So does almost everything


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, you don't want to use chromium


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] aperture_tech#5247
build your own web engine from source


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Frosku#5874
You're probably not avoiding that particular evil


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
the only real choice left for privacy is firefox


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Marches[45]#0674
With DuckDuckGo.


[22-Jul-20 09:57 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes I know discord uses chromium. I use it behind 7 proxies


[22-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Frosku#5874
Startpage


[22-Jul-20 09:58 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
i use waterfox


[22-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Tencent would like a word with your proxies 🙃


[22-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf


[22-Jul-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I use iceweasel


[22-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Isnt that just Firefox with different branding?


[22-Jul-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
sorry I mean icecat


[22-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Which I believe is also just Firefox with different branding


[22-Jul-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I used to use iceweasel, but I've used icecat since 2015


[22-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Frosku#5874
> 1,017,136
> Ads and Trackers Blocked
I'll stick with Brave :D


[22-Jul-20 10:14 PM] byte[]#2610
> Blocked since install
> 915,524 (12%)


[22-Jul-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
no way to check how much umatrix has blocked


[22-Jul-20 10:15 PM] byte[]#2610
and this install was about a month ago for reference


[22-Jul-20 10:45 PM] >That Guy#3386

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[22-Jul-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/508572-house-votes-to-repeal-trump-travel-ban

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House votes to repeal Trump travel ban
The House passed legislation to repeal President Trump’s controversial travel ban in a 233-183 vote along party lines on Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_06232020getty.jpg


[22-Jul-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Senate will ignore


[22-Jul-20 10:48 PM] byte[]#2610
As usual


[22-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Good, keep the borders locked, there's a pandemic.


[22-Jul-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I did not hit any bingos on any corner


[22-Jul-20 10:54 PM] byte[]#2610
this specific legislation is not targeted at the pandemic travel restrictions, did you read the article?


[22-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh, sec


[22-Jul-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump first issued the travel ban in 2017, suspending entry to those coming from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia – all predominantly Muslim countries.


[22-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Good, keep the borders locked, we need less immigration.

Fixed.


[22-Jul-20 10:55 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
http://archive.vn/XZRlQ


[22-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The ban was issued with clearly prejudiced motivations.

The ban should be struck down even if a *separate* ban is temporarily enforced due to the pandemic


[22-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump himself called it a Muslim ban during his campaign, after all.


[22-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Frosku#5874
It's been challenged in the courts. It was upheld.


[22-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He hadn't learned to dogwhistle yet, he was new to the game.


[22-Jul-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
this administration has no need for dog whistles, they go with full on foghorns all the time


[22-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yet he still tries to have it both ways.

He calls it a Muslim ban

Then later says "I never called it a Muslim ban. It's not a Muslim ban. Fake news."


[22-Jul-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
and then whenever someone tries to say "this is not a dogwhistle, this is literally a megaphone for targeted discrimination" people descend in massive flocks on chatrooms to say "actually it was just an honest mistake / the ends justify the means / etc."


[22-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Since there's also no way to really test if immigrants are Muslim or not, Trump's proposed Muslim ban is really - in practice - a general Arab ban.


[22-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Frosku#5874
In this case I think ends justify the means is true


[22-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Frosku#5874
We need to reduce immigration numbers, the labor market is utterly fucked.


[22-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then reduce them without respect to religion?


[22-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Sure


[22-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Freeze all visas for a year except familial and high net worth.


[22-Jul-20 11:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem I have is that Trump's immigration reduction is clearly targeted at certain people. If he did it evenly and unilaterally, I'd still be opposed but I wouldn't call it bigotry.


[22-Jul-20 11:00 PM] byte[]#2610
okay since you dropped the bait I'll bite: why do we need to reduce immigration numbers? what about immigration is "fucking" the labor market?


[22-Jul-20 11:01 PM] byte[]#2610
assume for a moment that we're not in a pandemic time


[22-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Frosku#5874
The pandemic is fucking the labor market, not immigration, but adding more supply to an already oversaturated market is dumb.


[22-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but this travel ban predates the pandemic. Just discussing the merits or lack thereof *before* this all went down.


[22-Jul-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I get not wanting travel *right now.*


[22-Jul-20 11:02 PM] Frosku#5874
I was opposed to the arab/Muslim travel ban when it was introduced, I would have been OK with Yemen/Syria because they were literal warzones at the time.


[22-Jul-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
what about them being war zones makes them different?


[22-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Let me rephrase: there were a lot of violent ideologues who do not like America in them at the time, who we could not vet.


[22-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Frosku#5874
No one, other than Americans, has a right to be in America. It is a privilege.


[22-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Frosku#5874
But fixing the Mexico border needs to be top priority, not lazy attempts to dog whistle.


[22-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Wasn't this travel ban supposed to be for 90 days originally?


[22-Jul-20 11:06 PM] byte[]#2610
I can find a lot more US citizens who scare me more than asylum seekers from a war zone, but I guess there's probably no convincing you of that


[22-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What does fixing the Mexican border entail? A literal border-long concrete wall as Trump proposes?


[22-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Frosku#5874
Asylum seekers are AFAIK exempt from the travel ban.


[22-Jul-20 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
de jure yes


[22-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano No, the concrete wall is retarded and a waste of money.


[22-Jul-20 11:07 PM] byte[]#2610
de facto, no. they get sent to camp with the rest


[22-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Frosku#5874
A more effective border force, more equipment, and much higher penalties for businesses employing illegal immigrants.


[22-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Frosku#5874
And effective immigration courts


[22-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do like that the penalties are directed at the corporations. I think regardless of what happens we need to get the migrants out of those prison camps.


[22-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't blame people for taking advantage of our mess of an immigration system, I blame the politicians for not fixing it.


[22-Jul-20 11:09 PM] byte[]#2610
I find that referring to people as "illegal immigrants" is incredibly dehumanizing, and while I agree that there should be a crackdown on employers who hire undocumented migrants, it should be to force them to pay at least the US federal minimum wage for their work


[22-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Children had no agency and no choice where their parents brought them.


[22-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They shouldn't be locked up in what are effectively large cages.


[22-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] I mean referring to people as "drug dealers" and "burglars" is dehumanizing too, but when speaking about criminals in the context of crime, we tend to refer to them by the crime they committed.


[22-Jul-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
that's where we conflict: I don't think selling drugs should be a crime, nor should border crossing under any circumstance


[22-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Frosku#5874
And I'm not about to start calling heroin dealers "unlicensed pharmacists" or burglars "receipt-less TV owners", so I'm not going to change how I talk about illegal immigrants.


[22-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly, same. I'm against burglary because that's an invasion of someone else's rights. But somebody choosing to put risky substances into their own body, that's not something they should be criminally punished for I think.


[22-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree with you on selling drugs, but it is a crime, so it makes sense to refer to people who commit the crime by a group label.


[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean, assuming the drugs are as advertized anyway. As most drugs are cut with garbage, they'd be frauds regardless (or is there a PC term for people who commit fraud too?)


[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, definitely.


[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Frosku#5874
"Misleading salespeople"


[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] byte[]#2610
this may shock you, but calling a heroin dealer a heroin dealer or a burglar a burglar is a completely distinct concept from calling an undocumented migrant an illegal immigrant, because the connotation of that as I have been raised to understand attaches the label to their personal identity rather than particular acts they have committed


[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Put surgeon generals' warnings and a bunch of very clear "This stuff will *kill* you" labels all over the packaged heroin

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[22-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Frosku#5874
In all of those cases it depends on context, I'm not going to go up to an illegal immigrant and say "hey, illegal immigrant"


[22-Jul-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not about to fight a connotation war with you because you don't care about terminology anyway


[22-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Frosku#5874
But if you're talking about a group of people, it makes sense to attach the reason you are grouping them. I actually do care about terminology, I think it should be consistent.


[22-Jul-20 11:14 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I find it offensive that a great deal of people want illegal immigrants to vote.


[22-Jul-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
and I find it offensive that people who live here can't vote.


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Frosku#5874
Me too, but hey, if the dead can vote why shouldn't illegals be able to? We all know which way they vote, and that's why certain people want them to.


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
regardless of whether they are "illegal immigrants" or not, the policies they vote for affect them, because they live here


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Okay, so now that we're both offended, what do we do?


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Frosku#5874
The policies affect them because of a crime they committed. Tough titties.


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
And further, that's nice that things affect them, I'm sure US policy affects the rest of the world, but they also don't get to vote in our elections.


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] Frosku#5874
If they don't like the policy, they are welcome to take the first taxi out.


[22-Jul-20 11:15 PM] byte[]#2610
"oh, no, I crossed an imaginary line"


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
such crime, very scary


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Try crossing the imaginary line of the White House perimeter fence, or the perimeter of any US military base, and pleading that defense.


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Oh no, millions of illegals are now voting for one party that will permanantly put them into power, that certainly isn't important or anything.


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe we shouldn't give people incentives to commit crimes.


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] byte[]#2610
hm, maybe it's because that party cares about human rights and dignity and the other... doesn't?


[22-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Honahue#0656
man you stated it right there but don't see it


[22-Jul-20 11:17 PM] byte[]#2610
total shocker


[22-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly, I'd be for offering a reliable path to citizenship for people who are here undocumented long-term. If you live here and work here and pay taxes (which non-citizen workers *do*, at least on income) then you're basically contributing to the country just as much as a citizen would, but without enjoying the full benefits.


[22-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh yes, the right to be fired for wrongthink, be robbed to bribe their voters, and have your right to self defense infringed. Those rights, I can do without.


[22-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, the path to citizenship should be "leave, then come in legally".


[22-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, Frosku, people aren't fired for "wrongthink." People are fired for being a liability to the company.


[22-Jul-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
nice buzzwords


[22-Jul-20 11:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's just capitalism. If an employee shares views that makes people less likely to patronize your business, it makes no sense to keep them around.


[22-Jul-20 11:18 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Human rights and 'dignity' are also buzzwords, no?


[22-Jul-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
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[22-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let's exercise good faith, everyone. Frosku, I am interested in your thoughts.


[22-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Frosku#5874
It doesn't affect me anyway. If Biden wins I'll head off to Panama for 4 years and live off savings, then repatriate everything I earn when we have a sane tax policy again.


[22-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Defund the Democrats


[22-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Frosku, do you see the difference between so-called "wrongthink" and just... making a smart business decision, though? If you had an employee that was regularly pissing off a huge chunk of your customers, would it make sense to keep them on staff?


[22-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Dylan#7259
Do you not worry at all when having the wrong opinion can mean your entire life being upended?


[22-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Frosku#5874
I am a business owner, I make hiring and firing decisions. I have never fired someone for saying "all lives matter", nor will I ever.


[22-Jul-20 11:21 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
This is one way though.  You don't see many, if any, people on the right firing people for their opinions on the left.


[22-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Nor will I fire someone for saying "black lives matter", for what it's worth.


[22-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure. That doesn't turn away customers the way saying, say, "[x group] are inferior" though. I'm talking really blatant bigotry.


[22-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait so what is this all about?


[22-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Frosku#5874
If they start goosestepping and doing roman salutes in the office, yeah I'd fire them, but that's not what happened.


[22-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Honahue#0656
some people do think BLM is bigotry


[22-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Frosku#5874
I personally don't find the slogan offensive, the organization is a different story.


[22-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there you go. I don't think we disagree then. It's okay to fire people for their views or public statements sometimes. Like all things it depends on the context.


[22-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Frosku#5874
But I think peoples' right to free expression is largely something American business owners should defend.


[22-Jul-20 11:23 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
"Fuck white people" is a form of bigotry from the left, no?


[22-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fired for wrongthink"


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you live in DC, you can absolutely be fired for your political opinion


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think that's a mainstream leftist position, Queenie, but I'd definitely fire an employee who said that, sure.


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, put it this way, I wouldn't fire them for drawing Aryanne, or making a Nazi joke. If they're sincerely bigoted, that would be a much harder decision.


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If a person is at-will you can fire them for almost anything


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Unless they were, of course, talking about making sweet sweet love to a white person.


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd be surprised at how few things you can't fire someone for


[22-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Frosku#5874
I have never fired someone for a political opinion, and I hope I never do.


[22-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Dylan#7259
The problem is that organizations do not disassemble themselves when their goal is complete, they would never willingly give up power, it's just doomed to a purity spiral. BLM as an organization is very much subject to that fate, their demands do not align with reality


[22-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just saying, you can


[22-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Frosku#5874
BLM (the organization) is just a front for the Democratic party.


[22-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Their donation page takes you to ActBlue.


[22-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Dylan#7259
Yes, it's fucking worrying how okay people are with that. With Actblue. With Thousand Currents.


[22-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm part of BLM the decentralized movement, not BLM the organization. The former predates and is much larger than the latter.

I'm "part of BLM" in the sense that I go to protests and support the cause but I've certainly never filled out any official membership or anything.


[22-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Now, if you want to donate to ActBlue, that's your right, but that should never be hidden behind what appears to a layman to be a civil rights organization.


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
The people in charge of BLM are all marxists--by their own admission.


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Dylan#7259
They genuinely have convicted terrorists on their board lol


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Crow#5457
they studied marxism, studying marxism doesn't make you a marxist


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm a supporter of equality for all races, genders, and sexualities. I choose not to identify with BLM because I think a lot of what they're demanding is crazy.


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
that would be amazing if true cause there's like negligable marxists in the US


[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Dylan#7259
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg

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[22-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Frosku#5874
But I did protest the murder of George Floyd on the first night


[22-Jul-20 11:28 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Pretty sure they believe in marxism, and there's nowhere near negligible marxists considering how much support Bernie Sanders has.


[22-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, okay. *I'm* a Marxist so I don't really mind that. I do want to clarify that I'm not a tankie though. Fuck Stalinists and Maoists and anyone who justifies authoritarian dictatorships.


[22-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Frosku#5874
And it was exactly that, a murder.


[22-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, you say "marxist" like it's a bad thing because you're assuming the strawman that marxist = stalinist = maoist


[22-Jul-20 11:28 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I'm not assuming that.  I don't want ANY form of communism or socialism.


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Frosku#5874
In my state, the officer involved would have the chair to look forward to, and though I'm not a supporter of capital punishment, I wouldn't shed a tear.


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
cooperatives are a form of socialism that exists in the US right now


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, you're getting your way! Even Bernie "calls himself a socialist" Sanders *is not* a socialist. He's a social democrat, which is about as far-left as America is capable of getting.


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I have no issue with cooperatives because they're voluntary. My issue is with coercion.


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
That's literally just socialism under different words.


[22-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Dylan#7259
Communism is a bad thing, whatever form you believe in


[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
cooperatives are the most popular business structure to work with and outperform corporations, the only reason they aren't more common is because banks put arbitrary restrictions on working with them


[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
social democracy is not socialism


[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sanders' policies are literally capitalism. Just capitalism with more publicly-funded things.


[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Frosku#5874
They're harder to lend to (also cooperatives and corporations aren't mutually exclusive, you can have a corporation with shares issued under a cooperative model)


[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
It literally is socialism, I see 0 differences.

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[22-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Frosku#5874
I actually co-ran a cooperative at one point, I do think they're a good business model.


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, I *wish* it was


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
norway is a social democracy, they are not socialist


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Sanders isn't proposing an end to private property, which would be socialism.


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People have been calling the Democrats "socialists" all my life and I'm just like "pfft, *if only*"


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Norway is socialist, actually.


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Dylan#7259
The nordic model is good.


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
they have a free market


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
if you have a free market, it's not socialism


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano To be fair, I feel the same about people calling Republicans free market capitalists ;) -- "If only"


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you would still have your walmarts, and your banks, and your capitalism, but now there would be benefits to living in america isntead of crippling debt from breaking your leg after driving in a pot hole on a broken road


[22-Jul-20 11:31 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Under those terms, we don't have a free market.


[22-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Frosku#5874
We don't have anything like a free market. The easiest way to get rich running a business in the US is to rely on government subsidy. We have cronyism.


[22-Jul-20 11:32 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Socialism is when you have forced transfer of wealth.


[22-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Socialism can have a free market. Socailsm doesn't mean "state runs everything." It means the workers own the means of production. You can absolutely have free-market socialism.


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Dylan#7259
Of course we don't have a completely free market, nobody does, but when you say we don't have anything like a free market that's just untrue.


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Frosku#5874
My employees largely own their own computers, so I guess we're a socialist company. :P


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
do they own the software?


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Most of the software we use is open source.


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Crow#5457
what does your company do?


[22-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Data analytics & machine learning in finance.


[22-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Frosku#5874
The company owns the ML models. Most employees are shareholders.


[22-Jul-20 11:34 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I'm very confused.  What the fuck is socialism?


[22-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Frosku#5874
All have the option to be shareholders.


[22-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

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[22-Jul-20 11:35 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
What is it when the government manages parts of the economy, but not the whole thing


[22-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Frosku#5874
I generally think that there's no better incentive for people to do their best for the company than a share of the spoils if we're successful.


[22-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Employee-owned businesses, which do exist under capitalism, is what I'd like to become the norm. Where workers have an actual stake in the company and aren't just expendable pawns.

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[22-Jul-20 11:35 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
> What is it when the government manages parts of the economy, but not the whole thing
Interventionism?


[22-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure I'd call us an employee-owned business, but there are pretty generous share options. There are definitely people other than me who take more in dividends than salaries, and the salaries are Silicon Valley salaries.


[22-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_interventionism

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[22-Jul-20 11:37 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Okay, so... if socialism is about people owning their own businesses that they work for, I'm neutral on that as long as the government doesn't impose it.  I'm unsure if that's the entirety of this definition--HOWEVER, I am opposed to interventionism then...?


[22-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Frosku#5874
We're also 100% remote, with unlimited paid holiday, 1y paid maternity or paternity leave, and a slew of other benefits. I like to think we treat our people well.


[22-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It sounds like it, Frosku. That's good.


[22-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Frosku#5874
That's partly driven by my own ideology, and partly because the sector is incredibly competitive.


[22-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
We also pay Silicon Valley rates regardless of where you live.


[22-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I hate seeing remote companies see it as a way to pay shitty salaries.


[22-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But yeah, realistically, in America the most attainable thing right now is social democracy. i.e. stuff like healthcare and maybe higher education being either wholly or mostly publicly-funded. 

And even that is not a mainstream Democratic party position, so it makes me laugh whenever I hear American Democrats called "socialists."


[22-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Crow#5457
everything left of center is called "socialism" in the US


[22-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I honestly think employee-owned cooperatives on a largely free market foundation are the future of the economy.


[22-Jul-20 11:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I've seen the studies and they're very promising for that model.


[22-Jul-20 11:40 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
And everything right of center is called fascism nowadays.  REgardless, I'm opposed to universal healthcare, education, and any and all forms of welfare.


[22-Jul-20 11:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm opposed to government as a provider of those things, I certainly think NGOs should be able to cover the poor.


[22-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Dylan#7259
That's why I find censorship so worrying, because labels are thrown around to the point of meaninglessness nowadays.


[22-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
American Democrats are center-right if anything. In many other developed countries they'd be the conservative party. Obama would've absolutely been a conservative candidate. Republicans are just much further right because America's overton window already skews rightward.


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean yes, the American overton window skews right, but that has created the most prosperous and free nation in the world.


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
show me an example of a mainstream democratic politician calling something just barely right of center "fascist"


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Dylan#7259
Things would be so much better if Godwin's law was applied wholeheartedly


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Trump.


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
I don't really think that welfare is all terrible, I've known people and family's that couldn't afford food without food stamps.


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
See, I'm not sure we're the "most prosperous and free" when in other countries a poor person can reliably go to the doctor without bankrupting themselves.


[22-Jul-20 11:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't know if politicians would do it, I've certainly heard Trump called a fascist and Nazi by the media.


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Honahue#0656
richest third world country, our infrastructure is crumbling, largest prison population and more empty homes than homeless


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean there's a lot of healthcare reforms I'd support @Dr. Mechano, I definitely don't think we've got it right.


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Okay, what about these two aspects of welfare: someone has to pay for it, and it incentivizes laziness


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there we go. We agree we could do better, that's all I'm saying.


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Dylan#7259
"The tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress." By applied wholeheartedly, I mean that latter bit of Godwin's Law


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm against welfare in the form it presently exists.


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people have to use go fund me to get a surgery done


[22-Jul-20 11:43 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
> richest third world country, our infrastructure is crumbling, largest prison population and more empty homes than homeless
And the way to fix this isn't to give the government more power, because they caused most of the problems to begin with.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
People wanting things for free and not paying them with taxes, but inflation is also to blame.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and i mean basic surgery, not that elective plastic bullshit


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Government-funded healthcare isn't giving the government more power over healthcare. It's just telling them to pay for it.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
just saying "Trump." doesn't explain anything


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Use the Canadian model for health care or the German model. Anythings better then the shit show in the US.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's telling the taxpayers to pay for it.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Frosku#5874
The government doesn't make any money, it's your money and my money.


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
show me an example of a mainstream democratic politician calling something just barely right of center "fascist"


[22-Jul-20 11:44 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I have heard mainstream people on the left constantly calling Trump a nazi, and at his most 'right', he's center right.


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
who


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
show examples


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we;re already paying fror it, it;s just puttign the taxes where you were paying them int he first place


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Frosku#5874
And I've seen single-payer, I've lived in the UK, it doesn't work. People are denied drugs that are regularly prescribed in America because they're too expensive.


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Dylan#7259
@QueenieChryssie exactly, and yet people are all for censoring those damn nazi's


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Trump is center right
:wheeze:


[22-Jul-20 11:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Money could be allocated better already. Cut back on the billions in corporate bailouts and put that money toward the people. 

Right now we let sick people live or die on their own and throw failing businesses a lifeline. It should be the opposite.


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm all for abolishing corporate bailouts


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Dylan#7259
The UK is an exception, the NHS is a spectacular failure


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
https://gen.medium.com/donald-trump-is-a-nazi-full-stop-393a50d80947 
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2020 presidential hopeful Beto O'Rourke responds to criticism over his comments comparing President Donald Trump to Nazi Germany.
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Filmmaker Michael Moore compares President Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler in his provocative new documentary, "Fahrenheit 11/9" that got its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival on Thursday to a sold-out audience.
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[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Frosku#5874
That's not a free market. In a free market if your decisions cause you to go bankrupt, you go bankrupt


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Honahue#0656
The NHS is a failure cause the tories have been defunding it for decades


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] Frosku#5874
If I make shitty decisions and my company goes bankrupt, no one's going to step in and bail me out.


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
We should stop giving bailouts, I agree, but that goes for all.


[22-Jul-20 11:46 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
A better solution would be to end lobbying, corporate welfare, no bid contracts, patent and copyright lasting forever, and a bunch of other shit I can't think of right now


[22-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah it was the Tories that made it a spectacular failure from 97 to 2010...


[22-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In what reality is he center right? Ontario's premier is center right. Not Trump.


[22-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Dylan#7259
I think the nordic model would very much work for the US, but the thing is... our system is already so COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FUCKED TO THE CORE. Everything is poisoned. The hospitals, the insurance companies, the for-profit prisons and the criminalization of drugs as a whole, it's all a horrible tangled mess


[22-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump doesn't have a particularly strong ideology. He's an authoritarian who's right of center.


[22-Jul-20 11:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a philosophical position, ultimately. It's based on whether you view healthcare as a right or a commodity. I see it as a right, something that should be publicly funded in the same way police, the fire department, and schools are. It's a basic service that citizens need.


[22-Jul-20 11:48 PM] Dylan#7259
There are too many companies with an invested interest to keep the system fucked so they can continue to milk it for everything.


[22-Jul-20 11:48 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Trump brags all the time about helping minorities, I really don't think that's a position on the right.  He's for more immigration, but it has to be legal.  He's for more infrastructure spending, he's for the stimulus checks.


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
The nordic model only works if your people are willing to pay for it.  Americans won't.


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm willing


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Dylan#7259
We're already paying much more than we ever would for the nordic model


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Are you in the lower, middle, or upper class?


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
It's not a right but it is necessary best solution is to break pharma monopolies and give vouchers for the people that really need it.


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Honahue#0656
universal health care has a lot of support in polls it's literally congress that doesn't want it


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
near poverty


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, if you allocate taxes better *and* mainly raise taxes on the top earners and corporations, the average American citizen wouldn't see that high an increase in taxes anyway.


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Because as it stands, only 20% of people actually pay into the system currently.


[22-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Honahue#0656
proof that government is just a dictatorship of the wealthy not representative of the people


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i have to go to the hospital i;m in crippling debt for life


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
@QueenieChryssie, this isn't what I asked for, I asked for an example of a mainstream democratic politician calling something just barely right of center "fascist", ignoring the fact that two of these three links don't actually have anything to do with mainstream democrats, these are people comparing specific trump policies to nazism, not fascism


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
Government needs to cut spending by 50% or more.


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Crow#5457
trump has never been center-right


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
and close tax loopholes


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
if you're calling someone a nazi, you're calling them a fascist.


[22-Jul-20 11:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Center right is mostly a term coined on the 2d scale of politics. Or in the 3d one any where near the center.  Trump is far away from that center.


[22-Jul-20 11:51 PM] Crow#5457
the first one is an opinion piece on a site dedicated to opinion pieces, the third one isn't even a politician, the second one is one of trump's policies being called nazi in nature, not calling trump himself a nazi


[22-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508582-biden-calls-trump-the-first-racist-us-president

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/508582-biden-calls-trump-the-first-racist-us-president
Biden calls Trump the first racist US president
Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) referred to President Trump as the first "racist" president during a town hall event on Wednesday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe2_06022020getty.jpg


[22-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Dylan#7259
Oh please, you're just nitpicking at this point. We're assaulted with a barrage of media that unabashedly calls Trump a fascist and stirs that shit to no end, especially with this Portland stuff being the perfect bait to do just that.


[22-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
HA


[22-Jul-20 11:53 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Is there a reason that it needs to be from sitting congresspeople and not the media?


[22-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Your logic hear being if mickle more calls someone a nazi that must be a position by the enter left spectrum. Thats simply put not true. He isn't a Nazi he is a moronic president


[22-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Crow#5457
but your defense of trump is that he's supposedly center-right, when he has the support of pretty much every far right group that currently exists in the US


[22-Jul-20 11:53 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I'm NOT in defense of trump lol, he's just not a nazi.


[22-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump's a racist but he's definitely not the first.


[22-Jul-20 11:54 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Also, I didn't understand what you're asking, Caw.


[22-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Crow#5457
I asked for examples of a politician calling something just barely right of center "fascist"


[22-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Woodrow Wilson showing Birth of a Nation on the White House lawn comes to mind immediately.


[22-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Portland secirt policeing is stupid and only adds more fuel to the fire of rioting


[22-Jul-20 11:55 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I know that's what you asked, my question is why specifically politicians?


[22-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Crow#5457
because everyone has an opinion, you can find opinions all over the place, politicians just have opinions that affect their decision making


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Dylan#7259
Fuel to the fire of rioting? The city of Portland itself won't do anything but watch the city burn to the ground, do you expect federal property to just go undefended because the governing body is too chickenshit to do anything about it?


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally a fringe opinion that trump was a democratic plant put in place to ruin the republican party


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nobody's going to call a fiscal libertarian conservative a fascist, is the thing.

You need to hold prejudiced social views to get hit with that label.


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
From a LOT of the people I know IRL on the left have called Trump a nazi.  The media is arguably more important to future discourse than congresspeople, who are just the manifestation of such discourse.


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Crow#5457
@Dylan, that's a strawman


[22-Jul-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love how people talk liek the entire city of portland is on fire when msot of the marches and riots are just centered aroudn the government biuildings


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump is at least an authoritarian.


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
I don't agree.  Trump is all over the place with his beliefs.


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
this is the fourth time you start talking about trump when I'm asking for people calling something just barely right of center "fascist"


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
He's an absolute moron, however.


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Crow#5457
trump is not "just barely right of center"


[22-Jul-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is for Trump, If it supports Trump financially or politically, he;s for it


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Dylan#7259
It is a bit of hyperbole, but you'd be an idiot if you denied the fact that most of these cities are calling off their police force and outright saying they're not going to respond to any calls about it


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Honahue#0656
Trump wants absolutism cause that's what he's used to as a big business owner, thats why he gets all huffy like a child when anyone challenges him


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Beliefs aren't what make one an authoritarian; policies are. And Trump has ordered overwhelming force against peaceful protesters multiple times, often against the wishes of local law enforcement and municipal governments.


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
trump's racist overtures is a traditionally far right stance


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@QueenieChryssie I am not asking for anything. I'm stateing he isn't a nazi but is a shitty authoritarian president. If anything he would be not a member of the nazi party but compatible with Mussolini. An idiot who has way too much ego and supresses talk that he doesn't like.


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they called off their police because the violent police weren't helping anything


[22-Jul-20 11:58 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Trump is barely right of center, if not a centrist.  From what I can tell from your beliefs, you are quite far left which is why you don't view him as centrist.  And he is not racist whatsoever...


[22-Jul-20 11:59 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Trump has ordered force against literal terrorists.


[22-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump is not center-right at all. Biden is center-right.


[22-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Crow#5457
you're strawmanning protesters as "terrorists", also there is no legal definition for "domestic terrorist" in the US


[22-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump has ordered force against peaceful protesters and rioters *indiscriminately.*


[22-Jul-20 11:59 PM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Antifa is a terrorist organization


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He lumps them together and doesn't care who gets caught in the mix.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Honahue#0656
antifa is a verb not an organization


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Dr. MechanoToday at 5:59 PM
Trump has ordered force against peaceful protesters and rioters indiscriminately. --it's possible this is true, but I know he ordered it against the rioters.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Dylan#7259
KIND OF LIKE ACAB HUH


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
antifa is an organization, actually.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Dylan#7259
A FEW BAD APPLES SPOIL THE BUNCH


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, and I never promoted ACAB so you can't throw that in my face.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Honahue#0656
yes you're right you found me the CEO of antifa


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
They have cells with doctrine.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
> Trump has ordered force against peaceful protesters and rioters indiscriminately.
source?


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Crow#5457
prove it


[23-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Lafayette Square


[23-Jul-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The difference between bad apples in protests and police is, bad apples in police should be fired the minute they;re found


[23-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Peaceful protesters gassed and beaten so Trump could get a photo-op in front of a church.


[23-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
On that logic cops are a terrorist origination. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/esyMFOu8ZFE/maxresdefault.jpg

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Polina Kuznetsova
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/
Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
https://upolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Trump.jpg


[23-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Of course i dont think acab


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church#Clearing_Lafayette_Square

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church
Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/President_Trump_Visits_St._John%27s_Episcopal_Church_%2849963649028%29.jpg/1200px-President_Trump_Visits_St._John%27s_Episcopal_Church_%2849963649028%29.jpg


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont think ACAB but i do think the bastard cops control the force while the "good" cops are the minority atm


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Crow#5457
this is a disinformation video that isn't allowed in this channel


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
You just deleted project veritas.


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Where my small-government conservatives at? Where my "don't tread on me" guys who always talk about rising up against a tyrannical government? Tyranny's *here*, baby!


[23-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The whole point of that line of thinking is to point out how a few people who are in the origination do not mean the whole thing is wrong


[23-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, project veritas has been known to strategically edit video footage to create a false narrative


[23-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I love all the idioms that have been shortened to lose their origonal means, a few bad apples spoils the bunch, blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb, bootstrapping meaning to do an impossible task


[23-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Dr. Mechano currently licking Trump's boots in portland


[23-Jul-20 12:03 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
No, they aren't.  Do you have any proof of such a thing?


[23-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/6/27/18760463/project-veritas-youtube-sting-james-okeefe

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https://www.theverge.com/interface/2019/6/27/18760463/project-veritas-youtube-sting-james-okeefe
Project Veritas’ YouTube sting was deeply misleading — and successf...
James O’Keefe’s stunt playbook keeps giving conservative lawmakers ammunition, even if the evidence is all phony. It’s time to dismiss these bogus videos
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/3fXyhRWUhToGaJM-ozthWr0hJNo=/0x146:2040x1214/fit-in/1200x630/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10581353/wjoel_1777_180403_youtube_001.jpg


[23-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Project vertas is a shitty echo chamber


[23-Jul-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
militarized swat teams used sparingly are one thing but when your entire police force is wearing iraq war gear, then soemthing is very, very wrong


[23-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah why are cops wearing desert camo in the pacific northeast


[23-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/67WWrtWvxFw kojima warned us

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Max Derrat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WWrtWvxFw
Selection for Societal Sanity
Special thanks to Kenspiracy and MetalGearSortOf for reviewing my script for me; Hannah and Scott from Honey Badger Radio for offering constructive criticism on the video; as well as Literal Sockpuppet and Captain Manboobs for doing the same.

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/67WWrtWvxFw/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jul-20 12:05 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Where exxactly in this article is your proof, because I'm just seeing some guy's opinion.


[23-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump
Project Veritas: how fake news prize went to rightwing group belove...
James O’Keefe’s organisation specialising in media stings received donations from Trump’s foundation but was caught red-handed peddling a false story
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8b54b64d63b00809ddb6a0cbed0720d178bce125/0_23_2747_1648/master/2747.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&enable=upscale&s=1f4f72cdb8e2d3bc4574508a860f8948


[23-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obama was center-right at best. He also had  shitty policies toward migrants, including detention camps (though nowhere near the level they're currently being used). He kept invasive Bush-era policies like the Patriot Act, which Trump has also kept around. He ordered drone strikes that have killed civilians. 

The dude's right-wing, just *less* right-wing than McCain or Romney would've been. Trump is further right than Obama and either of the men he ran against. He is in no way center-right.


[23-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> It is a bit of hyperbole, but you'd be an idiot if you denied the fact that most of these cities are calling off their police force and outright saying they're not going to respond to any calls about it
@Dylan 

The responce should not ever be "just send in scereat police beacuse muh rioting"


[23-Jul-20 12:07 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
http://archive.vn/bQ3aa


[23-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Dylan#7259
I didn't mean to imply the response was entirely warranted, more frustration at the unwillingness of the city itself to do its job to defend itself


[23-Jul-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is in those cities the police weren't doing their jobs durign these protests


[23-Jul-20 12:08 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
@Crow That article you posted has as its source a dead link towards proving what exactly O'keefe did


[23-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats more fair but still an insane move


[23-Jul-20 12:09 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
And the rest of the article doesn't tell me what he did.


[23-Jul-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were blanket gassing protestors, instead of going after actual rioters, and in a feww cases they even sent undercover officers to stoke violence amongst the protestors so they could get further violent with them


[23-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@QueenieChryssie who cares project vertus is a shitty echo chamber on youtube anyway


[23-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
the cities have called off their police forces because they have demonstrably made the protests worse, even disregarding the decades of data gathered on the effects of police actions against protesters, the police in the US have gone above and beyond anything ever seen before in their actions against protesters protesting the brutality they seem eager to show the world


[23-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
please stop spamming the same link


[23-Jul-20 12:10 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
If Veritas is not literally lying about what they're saying, then it proves the point that antifa has cells and a greater organization.  On top of that, it wouldn't be acceptable for crow to delete it.


[23-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Crow#5457
also, which source is a dead link?


[23-Jul-20 12:11 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
https://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/10/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics


[23-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Dylan#7259
It's a ridiculously complex situation to defend from the protests because the bad actors that throw a molotov or commit criminal acts can just disappear back into the crowd that fervently defends them


[23-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
... the blaze is a popular platform for project veritas


[23-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Crow#5457
and that isn't the source of the story


[23-Jul-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except that the protestors havent defended the rioters and have actively tried to seperate themselves from the rioters at most turns


[23-Jul-20 12:12 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html


[23-Jul-20 12:13 AM] Crow#5457
@QueenieChryssie, project veritas has been caught multiple times attempting to make shit up, that's literally disinformation


[23-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
also @QueenieChryssie https://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/03/10/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics

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https://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/03/10/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics
Does Raw Video of NPR Expose Reveal Questionable Editing & Tactics?
On Wednesday, The Blaze posted a lengthy report looking at the ethics of undercover journalism.  The comments on the post show a lively debate and wide-ranging views on what is considered ethical and acceptable in pursuit of a scoop.
Plenty of readers felt the new NPR exposé j...


[23-Jul-20 12:14 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
This isn't proving that she's working for them, she could have been doing this to get attention.


[23-Jul-20 12:16 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
All the videos they're referring to are down on the blaze.


[23-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Dylan#7259
They may have *tried* to separate themselves, but at the end of the day all the looting and acts of arson ultimately are all at the fault of these protests, are the police and governing body just supposed to sit there twiddling their fucking thumbs trusting that these little angel protestors will sort themselves out for them?


[23-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/11/facebook-rules-project-veritas/

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https://theintercept.com/2019/06/11/facebook-rules-project-veritas/
Right-Wing Sting Group Project Veritas Is Breaking Facebook’s “Auth...
Sworn testimony by a Project Veritas operative shows the group is violating Facebook rules designed to curb troll farms, a key expert says.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2019/06/veritas-illustration-SH-2-10-10-1560277184.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[23-Jul-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you know, cause the police arent rioting either


[23-Jul-20 12:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's a bit hard to sort this shit out amongst themselves with undercover cops stoking the flames


[23-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Dylan, you're strawmanning again


[23-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Crow#5457
wow, that's a double whammy of a strawman, both saying that the protests = riots and that calling off instigators = twiddling thumbs


[23-Jul-20 12:19 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Well, black blocks are intended for the protestors to be anonymous, if that's what they're doing.  As for this new article, this isn't proof, this is just saying that veritas was banned because they were being duplicitous, but that's trying to prove a point with the point.


[23-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Crow#5457
no... a member of project veritas admitted that what they were doing was disinformation


[23-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Dylan#7259
Oh, I guess all those buildings just looted and burned themselves to the ground, sorry, guess I was wrong and they aren't riots after all. Fuck off.


[23-Jul-20 12:20 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
No, the member admitted that it violated FACEBOOK's rules on disinformation, but that doesn't mean it was disinformation.


[23-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Crow#5457
muted, there's no place for namecalling, and doubling down on your strawman is even worse


[23-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Frosku#5874
"A liberal social media company arbitrarily banned a right-wing organization for X, therefore they are guilty of X."


[23-Jul-20 12:21 AM] QueenieChryssie#5104
Frosku said it better than me.


[23-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Frosku#5874
I didn't know we were allowing corporations to be the arbiters of morality now.


[23-Jul-20 12:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-expose-washington-post-fake-news-2017-11

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https://www.businessinsider.com/james-okeefe-expose-washington-post-fake-news-2017-11
A notorious conservative 'sting' operation tried to embarrass The W...
A woman approached The Washington Post claiming to have had a sexual relationship with Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for Alabama senator.
https://i.insider.com/5a1c967b3dbef426008b87f5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[23-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Frosku#5874
Undercover journalism has always been a powerful tool for speaking truth to power. I don't think we should be celebrating silencing it just because the operatives aren't on our side, that's all.


[23-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Crow#5457
it isn't being "silenced" because the operatives aren't on a specific side, it's literally been caught multiple times attempting to spread disinformation


[23-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Frosku#5874
Understandably, the powerful aren't huge fans of it.


[23-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Cozy Glow#3780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqS2vfWFYSI

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Clownfish TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqS2vfWFYSI
Virtue Signalers Often PSYCHOPATHS and NARCISSISTS, Study Says.
Virtue Signalers are prone to being narcissists, psychopaths and manipulators (aka the "Dark Triad") according to a recent academic study. Executive job site The Ladders sent out an email about it this morning, and seemed to be indicating that you shouldn't hire these people. ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BqS2vfWFYSI/maxresdefault.jpg


[23-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean PV got reinstated on Facebook a few days after they got banned IIRC.


[23-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Honahue#0656
still using Big Red as a thumb nail like 8 years after she's been relevent


[23-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Frosku#5874
She was never relevant, she just sums up SJWs perfectly. :P


[23-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Honahue#0656
if you ever listen to what she said and ignored the tone it's not anything terrible contriversial


[23-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Frosku#5874
Genuinely speaking, it's the tone/aggression, and sheer nastiness, of SJWs that puts most of us off long before we hear the message.


[23-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh my god another thumbnail with chanty binx, how original and biting


[23-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Frosku#5874
The second you start screaming in my face that I'm a Nazi / you wish I'd die etc, any chance you have of me valuing your argument and not just trying to continue to make you look retarded is gone.


[23-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I dislike about the term "virtue signaling" is the implication of insincerity. It's projection, to me.

"You don't *actually* believe in equality, you're just saying that so you'll look good" only makes sense to someone who can't imagine actually believing in equality.


[23-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Honahue#0656
nice strawwoman cause that wasn't her message at all


[23-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Frosku#5874
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[23-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Frosku#5874
I genuinely have an issue with corporations virtue signalling because most of them don't practice what they preach. Individuals virtue signalling is cringe but whatever.


[23-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Here's my counter to that, and tell me if this makes sense


[23-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Honahue#0656
yes corporations are terrible and will try to coopt anything to make money


[23-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think, even selfishly motivated good acts, *can* have a real positive effect nonetheless.

I grew up a closeted bisexual. I was deeply ashamed of who I was because societal acceptance of LGBT people was so low at the time.

Corporate motivations or not, if I'd grown up in a world with rainbow-decked branding where TV shows and movies regularly had positive gay characters, I'd have probably felt less weird. Less "wrong."


[23-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The motive may be profit, but the *result* is still normalization of acceptance.


[23-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Frosku#5874
I think context is quite important. Normalizing depictions of minority groups is important, but there's a way to do it right and many ways to do it wrong imo.


[23-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Frosku#5874
Like, when there's a token gay character whos entire purpose is to be the token gay character vs when there is a deep and meaningful character who happens to be gay, I think there's a big difference.


[23-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. I'd say the worst era for this was actually the 80s and 90s, when they *just* started putting positive gay characters into media... but in those days they felt less like characters and more like living aesops about tolerance who came and went for a single episode.


[23-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, that's what I see a lot of.


[23-Jul-20 12:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think gay characters have become more nuanced over time generally.


[23-Jul-20 12:33 AM] Frosku#5874
I also grew up as a closeted bisexual on a trailer park in a very red state so I empathise there.


[23-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Today you have stuff like Steven Universe, a show that never even says the word "gay" but it clearly depicts same-gender relationships as just normal and okay and not a big deal. I think that's the way to do it. Just make it a normal thing, an aspect of the character but not something that wholly defines them.


[23-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of Steven Universe but it does do a lot of things well.


[23-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Frosku#5874
I think with virtue signalling, context really does matter.


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
@Honahue, what exactly what chanty binx's position? I only know about her from the memes


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh sure, there are elements of storytelling (especially in later seasons) I found rushed, but I think it did its representation game well.


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
is there an unedited version of her angry rants?


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Honestly I just really don't like the aesthetics, it's nothing to do with the story which I do quite like.


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Frosku#5874
I just find it hard to give a shit about a show where I don't like the aesthetics.


[23-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Honahue#0656
she was actually using a lot of the incel talking point about how men are discriminated against, like assuming women are nurturers and giving them custody


[23-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, to each their own. I like the art style myself, but I can see why it's not to everyone's tastes.


[23-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Frosku#5874
Like, I don't think I'd like MLP half as much if it was in that style. The cute ponies are as central to my enjoyment as their character.


[23-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Jordan Peterson did a good video on virtue signalling which has a lot of nuance, and I largely agree with it


[23-Jul-20 12:39 AM] Honahue#0656
the idea tha men should provide and coddle women
the fact that women have long been shut out of dangerous industiral jobs
the idea that women are too weak or meek to function in a military setting
she attributes to patriarchy


[23-Jul-20 12:39 AM] Honahue#0656
those are some I got from a video mocking her


[23-Jul-20 12:39 AM] Frosku#5874
He basically summed it up as, if you're drawing attention to a good cause to help the cause, that's good; if you're drawing attention to the cause to help your own image, that's bad.


[23-Jul-20 12:41 AM] Frosku#5874
“You shouldn’t make a public display of your virtues until you’ve straightened out your damn life. And this is one of the things I really don’t like about protests. And I really don’t like the fact that university students are taught by their … professors that the way that you change the world [is through protests].  You don’t change the world by going and waving signs at people you’ve defined as more evil than you. First of all, the probability that they’re more evil than you is actually quite low.

The line between good and evil runs down the middle of every human heart. … You have to recognize yourself as a perpetrator of great evil. And that is what you are. And that’s a terrible thing for people to learn. Now you look at the 20th Century and who brought on the horrors of the communist systems and the horrors of the Nazi systems? Well the answer is people just like you. We have an unlimited capacity for brutality and evil. And every one of us carries it. And so what you do is you try to sort that out in your own life.”


[23-Jul-20 12:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like when the left and right talk about patriarchy they define the word differently and basically talk past each other.

I've seen people on the right talk as though "the patriarchy" is an organization we believe exists. I think it's just shorthand for gender roles that normalize hierarchy instead of egalitarianism. It's not a *thing,* it's a set of common values.


[23-Jul-20 12:41 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't agree with Jordan Peterson on everything, but this one I'm pretty much 100% with him on.


[23-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Honahue#0656
Jordan Peterson is just taking Hero of a Thousnad Faces and acting like it applies to real life


[23-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
wtf? what does virtue signalling have to do with "straightening out your own life"?


[23-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Crow#5457
how are these two things even remotely related


[23-Jul-20 12:42 AM] Frosku#5874
I think the main issue with 'patriarchy' is the charged language, and it's another thing like 'Black Lives Matter' where I feel like the left deliberately alienate people with one-sided language so they can have someone to disagree with.


[23-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
so @Honahue, you're basically saying that no one's reflected on her words objectively, and people just strawman her and make fun of her because she was angry about it?


[23-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
reminds me of how people try to dismiss bernie because he's angry


[23-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Frosku#5874
It is true that we live in a system in which genders have roles. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing from a historical standpoint, but it's definitely true that technology and social progress have made it less necessary.


[23-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Crow#5457
also, it's kinda funny how that quote from jordon peterson makes it sound like he's supportive of armed insurrection


[23-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah she's certainly abrasive


[23-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure that I'd describe that as a patriarchal system, I mean I'm Jewish so it's probably hard for me to judge because in many ways my culture is matriarchal -- the Jewish mother stereotype didn't appear out of the blue. :P


[23-Jul-20 12:44 AM] Frosku#5874
When the Jews I know, and I, watch South Park and see Kyle's mom, we laugh, because she's a very well-done cariacature of most of our moms.


[23-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Crow#5457
ugh, what is this drivel about how "the nazis" are "people just like you", like no shit they're people too, but because everyone has the potential for brutality doesn't mean that we shouldn't just leave people acting on that potential to their own devices


[23-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Frosku#5874
The woman definitely tends to overshadow the man when it comes to running the household, in Jewish culture. I think that's also true in most African cultures.


[23-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow The point was that most people who voted for the Nazis were not particularly evil individuals, they were angry people who didn't know how to fix the problem.


[23-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah in the 60's the french feminist called this the second shift cause they'd come home from work and have to do more work


[23-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Louisiana cancelled their bar exam, gave recent graduates their license. One of the justices was not happy.

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[23-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I'd say they were evil for willingly accepting those policies.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 AM] Frosku#5874
Hard to say, because not all of the policies were explicitly presented before the country stopped being a democracy.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Marginalization of the Jewish people *was* still a public position, even if the death camps weren't at that point.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They kinda were -- Hitler's intentions were laid bare to everyone in Mein Kampf


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Weirdly enough Josef Stalin didn't get the hint


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Frosku#5874
Marginalization of the Jewish people was the norm in the western world until after WW2 -- America refused Jewish refugees and used similar rhetoric to the rhetoric the Nazis used.


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Stalin wasn't famous for his reading comprehension


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh yes, many Americans held beliefs I'd call evil too.


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Frosku#5874
My people weren't allowed to belong to most trade guilds -- that's why so many Jews became merchants and financiers, we weren't allowed to integrate into the trades.


[23-Jul-20 12:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Look at Japanese internment or segregation going on in that time.


[23-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and usury was illegal but let the Jews do it and tax the shit out of them


[23-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`When Hurricane Katrina hit, this state became well-known for its fight and grit during those near hopeless times. Numerous test results from the bar examination administered in the summer prior to Hurricane Katrina’s landfall were destroyed. Still, we did not forego the requirement of a bar examination. The affected applicants had the opportunity to retake portions of the exam. Not even in the face of flood-induced homelessness, near complete displacement, and death did we eliminate this prerequisite.`


[23-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't like to judge historical figures through today's lens, I don't assume the average German who voted for the Nazis was spurred by a hatred for non-aryans, I assume they were spurred by the Weimar Republic's failings.


[23-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
bruh


[23-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Here's the thing though. People back then *knew better*.

There were abolitionists when slavery was legal, there were anti-segregationists when segregation was legal, and there were anti-Nazis in Nazi Germany.


[23-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Frosku#5874
People generally only support radicalism when all the sane options are gone. In general, we are a conservative (as in, opposed to major change) species.


[23-Jul-20 12:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those who sided with evil still made a choice they didn't have to make.


[23-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Frosku#5874
There were abolitionists, but the average person working 6 day weeks to feed their families weren't reading obscure academia.


[23-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Honahue#0656
it wasn't obscure academia in any of those ages


[23-Jul-20 12:52 AM] Frosku#5874
It wasn't a view which was entertained by the mainstream media, it was a fringe movement.


[23-Jul-20 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wouldn't say we are a conservative species, in fact i'd say we naturally strive for efficiency, equality and innovation. The problem is the abusive system we live in


[23-Jul-20 12:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anton Pannekoek laid that out well


[23-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Frosku#5874
Abolitionism in the 1850s was fairly obscure, a lot of the primary abolitionists were ancaps, and ancaps have never been a major population group.


[23-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
wtf, ancaps love slavery


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
there were no ancaps in the 1850s. there was barely an Anarchist movement


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf, no? Abolitionists were pretty common throughout the north


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Frosku#5874
Look up Lysander Spooner


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Honahue#0656
abolitionists existed since the founding of the US


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who?


[23-Jul-20 12:54 AM] Frosku#5874
He was one of the most prominent abolitionists.


[23-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
and he was an individualist anarchist which isn't an ancap


[23-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Frosku#5874
He was what would today be called an ancap


[23-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Crow#5457
spooner is an anti-capitalist...


[23-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Honahue#0656
libertarian socialism is nothing like ancap


[23-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Frosku#5874
"Capitalist" in the 1850s refered to someone who had capital, not someone who supported capitalism.


[23-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
John Quincy Addams was an abolitionist as well. Ben Franklin initially owned slaves but *became* an abolitionist later in his life, after spending time with black students and realizing "oh wait, they're people"


[23-Jul-20 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't quite think he was one of the most prominent -- that'd instead go to other figures such as Frederick Douglass, Lincoln himself, Seward, the entirety of the republican party right before the civil war...


[23-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Crow#5457
that doesn't make any sense, if you're against the private ownership of capital, you're an anti-capitalist


[23-Jul-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But don't you see


[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you own people, you're denying them a right to own things


[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysander_Spooner

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[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they were a fringe movement, then how did they manage to create such a formidable abolitionist party that even displaced the democrats in the 1860 elections, less than ten years since its founding?


[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Frosku#5874
He wasn't, though. He was for most people being self-employed tradespeople.


[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Crow#5457
> Spooner's membership to the socialist First International and opposition to wage labor is why he is considered an anti-capitalist left-libertarian and libertarian socialist.


[23-Jul-20 12:57 AM] Frosku#5874
He wrote a thesis on the right of people to own property, and supported competition.


[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Frosku#5874
Read his works on the Post Office.


[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/iain-macsaorsa-the-ideas-of-lysander-spooner-libertarian-or-libertarian-socialist

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[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even when slavery was abolished, abolitionism wasn't the norm even in the north.

Which is one of my arguments for why sometimes federal intervention *in spite of* the majority opinion is sometimes necessary, when it's a matter of equality.


[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
>  In part answer to the question, Spooner was opposed to wage labour, wanting that social relationship destroyed by turning capital over to those who work in it, as associated producers and not as wage slaves. Hence Spooner was anti-capitalist, prefering to see a society of self-employed farmers, artisans and cooperating workers, not a society of wage slaves and capitalists. This can be clearly seen from the following quote:


[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Frosku#5874
> Which is one of my arguments for why sometimes federal invention in spite of the majority opinion is sometimes necessary, when it's a matter of equality.
We agree here.


[23-Jul-20 12:58 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow Many market anarchists agree with that position, me included.


[23-Jul-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
> “All the great establishments, of every kind, now in the hands of a few proprietors, but employing a great number of wage laborers, would be broken up; for few or no persons, who could hire capital and do business for themselves would consent to labour for wages for another.”


[23-Jul-20 12:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbf anarchism is an almost prohibitively incoherent movement


[23-Jul-20 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll just titledrop Marx's Poverty of Philosophy


[23-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Frosku#5874
We do not, largely speaking, believe that ancap/mincap position would lead to larger corporations, most people on this side of the political spectrum believe that government regulation is a major cause of coalescing corporations.


[23-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah this is the position a lot of ancaps argue from but it's not at all how capitalism without government would work and even then the state is just a disctatorship of capital owners anyway so it would last only so long until someone started accumulating


[23-Jul-20 01:00 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not strictly an anarchist, I think anarchy is one of those utopian goals we'll never reach.


[23-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Crow#5457
everything I'm looking up about lysander and his beliefs point towards him being a socialist, not an ancap


[23-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Frosku#5874
He clearly believed in free markets, competition, and private property. That doesn't sound very socialist to me.


[23-Jul-20 01:01 AM] Honahue#0656
the fuck you mean an intro econ corse will cover economy of scale, constant return of scale, and diseconomy of scale and looking at those graphs will tell you which industries tend towards monopoly and which don't


[23-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Economies of scale are not a hard law, and mostly only refer to physical manufacturing chains, which is a minority of the post-tech economy.


[23-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Honahue#0656
Google doesn't own a bunch of huge data centers for nothing code has to run on something


[23-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.startribune.com/fired-minneapolis-officer-derek-chauvin-wife-charged-with-tax-crimes/571864051/

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They underreported more than $460,000 in earnings and owe the government nearly $38,000, according to the charges.
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[23-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Crow#5457
so that dude who kneeled on george floyd's neck and his wife have been charged with tax crimes

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[23-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue Google didn't own a bunch of datacenters when Google began though. You could start the next Google on a $20/mo VPS.


[23-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Frosku#5874
When I started my company, everything was processed on a $1500ish laptop. Now we have data pipelines moving petabytes of data.


[23-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Frosku#5874
(And we're not a very big company -- hosting is cheap)


[23-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah not many did but Larry Page was a PhD student at stanford and his dad was a professor at UofM so he wasn't hurting for start up capital either


[23-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Frosku#5874
If the day ever comes that we need our own datacenter, I don't think it'd be a major obstacle.


[23-Jul-20 01:12 AM] Frosku#5874
In general though, companies like mine are hurt by government far more than we're helped. Google are helped far more than they're hurt.


[23-Jul-20 01:13 AM] Frosku#5874
I can't pay lobbyists to do my bidding in DC


[23-Jul-20 01:14 AM] Frosku#5874
I can't afford an army of lawyers to navigate the tax code for every possible loophole in the God-knows-how-many-pages-there-are


[23-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Frosku#5874
I certainly can't speak to foreign governments and negotiate how much tax I'm willing to pay them for the honor of having me do business in their jurisdiction.


[23-Jul-20 01:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Google can and does do all of those things.


[23-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Crow#5457
increased regulation on big businesses only benefit small businesses, even though people try to argue that it stops small businesses from becoming big businesses, so we shouldn't regulate big businesses


[23-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Frosku#5874
All I can do is provide a good service and hope the govt doesn't decide to fuck me over with yet more regulations.


[23-Jul-20 01:17 AM] Frosku#5874
Increased regulation on big businesses helps small businesses, yes, until they get to that border size between "this affects me" and "this doesn't affect me"


[23-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Frosku#5874
And companies in that border size are affected far more than Amazon or Google whos lobbyists help write the regulation.


[23-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Honahue#0656
yes Google does that cause the government is a dictatoship of capital holders it's never going to do anything that hurts that dicatorship


[23-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
having many small businesses certainly promotes competition way more than having a few big businesses, and big businesses by their very nature stifle competition from small businesses


[23-Jul-20 01:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Right, so I'm suggesting we don't keep feeding that government more power to do their bidding.


[23-Jul-20 01:19 AM] Frosku#5874
I agree, I'd prefer to have a lot more small businesses, but government in general is more helpful to big businesses than small businesses because big businesses can afford to lobby for the laws they want.


[23-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Frosku#5874
It's an EU law but might be coming to the US in some form or other too, so I'll use GDPR as an example (and by the way, I largely support the intentions of GDPR if not the implementation)


[23-Jul-20 01:20 AM] Frosku#5874
Google threw 80 Engineers at GDPR as soon as it was announced, they had countless lobbyists in Brussels working with EU parliament on the law.


[23-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Frosku#5874
I do not have 80 engineers.


[23-Jul-20 01:21 AM] Frosku#5874
I do not have an army of lobbyists to make sure the GDPR looks how I want it to look.


[23-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Frosku#5874
It is not a small business-friendly piece of legislation, in the slightest. I have friends in Europe who went from profitable to not trading, or were forced to sell their businesses, because of it.


[23-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Frosku#5874
When small businesses are acquired by big businesses because the regulatory and tax burdens on them are too big, that is a failure of the state.


[23-Jul-20 01:24 AM] Honahue#0656
its not


[23-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Honahue#0656
it's the state acting as intended


[23-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Frosku#5874
So the purpose of the state is to force the coalescence of megacorporations? Thank you for making my argument for me. :P


[23-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Honahue#0656
the purpose of the state is to protect capital and capital will accumulate in the hands of a few, there's no amount of regulation or "small government" that will prevent it


[23-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Frosku#5874
BTW there is a reason most billion dollar tech companies start in America and not Sweden or Germany.


[23-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Frosku#5874
Because despite its many, many failings, the US government is pretty good at staying out of our way while we build things.


[23-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't really care cause Facebook doesn't really make anything valuabel to people just to advertisers


[23-Jul-20 01:27 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean, it creates a lot of well-paid jobs, and a lot of good open source technologies.


[23-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't really care those jobs are meaningless and don't create anything useful to people just to advertisers


[23-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Frosku#5874
You don't think Facebook is useful to people?


[23-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Honahue#0656
nope


[23-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Honahue#0656
don't have it myself either deleted my account and it's one of the best things I've done


[23-Jul-20 01:29 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't use it, but it's enabled a lot of good things.


[23-Jul-20 01:30 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
facebook makes money by selling data


[23-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Wasn't the arab spring largely facilitated by Facebook?


[23-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Honahue#0656
for every long lost war vet friends it connected it's got like 100 shitty things it's done whether is online bullying or just destroyer boomer brains


[23-Jul-20 01:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Generally speaking, if you aren't paying for the product, you are the product. Google does the same thing, so does Twitter.


[23-Jul-20 01:31 AM] HorseFoxtrot#2497
which is why i don't use any of them


[23-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and part of the nature of capitalism is that it doesn't do useful labor it does profitable thing, on occassion those overlap but not often and not for the use of most


[23-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Most people when offered a paid FB model with better privacy would probably decline it.


[23-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Frosku#5874
Useful and profitable are largely the same thing. If something is not useful, it probably isn't profitable (unless the govt subsidizes it).


[23-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Frosku#5874
Also important to note: Facebook monetizes data but they don't sell data. There's a subtle but important difference.


[23-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Frosku#5874
They monetize data by selling targeted ads, you can't just go to Facebook and buy the data. You can say "I want this ad to show to black males aged 18-30".


[23-Jul-20 01:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Not actually sure if targeting based on race is possible, but there are proxies for it.


[23-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Honahue#0656
useful and profitable aren't the same thing, even a basic econ course could demonstrate this they just pretend that "most efficient" equals best. It's possible to grow enough food in the US to feed everyone in the US but there are still people that are food insecure cause it isn't profitable. There are more empty homes than homeless


[23-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Frosku#5874
That's more a logistical issue than anything though, most of the empty houses aren't where the homeless people are, and most of the excess farmlands aren't where food deserts are.


[23-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Frosku#5874
If you want to help homeless people move from LA to South Carolina or Alabama, I can help you find some very affordable empty houses. You aren't going to find those in LA though.


[23-Jul-20 01:40 AM] Frosku#5874
The biggest concentration of homeless people is in areas with too little housing compared to demand.


[23-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Frosku#5874
Similarly, most of the people who can't afford to eat live in food deserts. It's not as simple as matching supply to demand, logistics is a major factor.


[23-Jul-20 01:42 AM] Honahue#0656
you're straight up proving my point tho, it isn't profitable to help people in food deserts or to help the homeless to get homes


[23-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not that it isn't profitable, it's that there is a misallocation of resources which is inherent to *any* economic system.


[23-Jul-20 01:43 AM] Frosku#5874
It would be very profitable if you could work out how to solve the issue of food deserts.


[23-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Honahue#0656
there is a solution, have a grocery and deliver food to it food deserts aren't on the moon


[23-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Frosku#5874
So do it.


[23-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Frosku#5874
There were some pretty bad food deserts under communism too :P It's not unique to capitalism.


[23-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Honahue#0656
the CIA itself put out a report that the USSR's average caloric intake was comperable to the US, the images of breadlines happened towards the end of the regime or it was a famine that was cause by a world war and Stalin being a genocidal asshole


[23-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Frosku#5874
I actually don't doubt that, but there was a huge misallocation of resources.


[23-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Frosku#5874
North Korea and Maoist China have the same issue. All the free market is, is an efficient way to allocate resources.


[23-Jul-20 01:48 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not perfect.


[23-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Honahue#0656
thats what they say but it's demonstratably not efficient unless you think it is efficient to have the kind of wealth inequality that there is


[23-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Honahue#0656
this is the US

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[23-Jul-20 01:53 AM] Honahue#0656
the bottom 50% of people in the US have negative money


[23-Jul-20 01:54 AM] Honahue#0656
doesn't look very efficient to me for half of the US to owe money


[23-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it is


[23-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It ensures they're always indebted to the system, no escape


[23-Jul-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And if they falter, well welcome to the private ~~prison~~ slave industry


[23-Jul-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-will-close-stores-on-thanksgiving-ending-black-friday-tradition-2020-7

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[23-Jul-20 02:55 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Don't worry, this is just for the pandemic. Next year will be business as usual :smugcaddy:


[23-Jul-20 02:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
provided america isnt a pandemic wasteland next year


[23-Jul-20 02:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, the sheer amount of people who are going to try to force the christmas traditions to happen is going to be terrifying


[23-Jul-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can totally see the news now about the shopping herd who shows up to walmart thanskgiving night who didn;t get the memo, just packed waiting for it to open

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[23-Jul-20 03:09 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Covid Friday is cancelled. :sad: 

We are all going to have Christmas Diner with the family. All your cousins, aunties, uncles will be there. 
⚰️ 🤢 :thisisfine:


[23-Jul-20 03:18 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It only took a pandemic for them to stop this shit


[23-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and even then it'll probably be back next year


[23-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Frosku#5874
@Teaspoon! You are back!


[23-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Frosku#5874
Also, no, that level of wealth inequality isn't efficient, but it's important to note that the top 1% changes year by year and so does the bottom 20%.


[23-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Frosku#5874
I was born in the bottom 20%, I'm now at least in the top 20% if not top 10%.


[23-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Honahue#0656
yes and one of the first black millionaires in the US was brought here as a slave, just because some people make it out doesn't justify the rest of the edifice


[23-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Honahue#0656
if I built a robot that usually stabbed people but had a 1 in a million chance of given them a bunch of money people still wouldn't like my robot very much


[23-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Serenity#9645
i personally went from living in a 30 year old car i got for 100$ that was broken well going from work for 7.25 a hour part time, to high school, and then to collage to work on electronics, now i work on aircraft computers. (i was also denied sponsorships and food stamps or any gov aid) beside me are north koreans, africans, mexicans, and europeans but now all of them are us citizens. they all have 1 thing in common they worked really hard to get there to make that kind of money. if you wanna discredit the people from places where they are pretty much indentured servants or had to hide that they were gay under threat of death and fought to escape to where they are now and say oh its only 1 out of a million that get the chance because their skin color is different your sadly mistaken... hell me as a white guy is a minority in my workplace


[23-Jul-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think you guys are being kinda generous about wealth inequality. I'd wager that over 80% of the world's entire wealth is actually in the hands of a population that together comprises less than 0.1%


[23-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
If you built a robot that gave people money if they made good decisions, they might like it more.


[23-Jul-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Heck, most of it is in the hands of a small group of billionaires who know each other


[23-Jul-20 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The rest is the rest


[23-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Honahue#0656
> plenty of people make great decisions and never make it out of poverty, saying that poverty is merely a lack of will to get out of it and thus is deserved is sociopathic


[23-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Frosku#5874
And yet even the poorest in western capitalist nations live longer, eat better, have more choices, and are better educated than Kings did 300 years ago. The marvels of capitalism.


[23-Jul-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmfao


[23-Jul-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're confusing that kings in the medieval ages had entire free retinues of servants, soldiers, and occasionally slaves at their will


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Frosku#5874
98% of people who finish high school, get a job and get married before they have children get out of poverty. Yes, some dont, but there is clearly a correlation between leading a good life and economic freedom.


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What does the modern working class person have in comparison?


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah just cause Richard the third never got to microwave a hot pocket doesn't really mean anything


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, they did. And yet they had less dinners to choose from than you do on UberEats.


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok middle class boy


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not ashamed of having made it out of poverty lol.


[23-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh my ability to make pizza rolls makes me rich!


[23-Jul-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ubereats also doesnt deliver to my area


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> 98% of people who finish high school, get a job and get married before they have children get out of poverty. Yes, some dont, but there is clearly a correlation between leading a good life and economic freedom.
@Frosku  and how many do not make it out of the cycle of poverty? Your 98% number is very generous and obviously misleading


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's too far out


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
Instead of being jealous of people who have more than you, look at the greater good of everything we have that our ancestors never did, built by capitalism.


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Honahue#0656
plus you seem to be asking that people follow a script in order to get out of poverty why should they follow this railroad situation?


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
98% is the correct figure.


[23-Jul-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yes the medical advances are doing me wonders when i cant afford them


[23-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/0

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Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class
Ron Haskins explains research indicating that young people should fulfill three major responsibilities to substantially improve their chances of avoiding poverty and entering the middle class: at least finish high school, get a full-time job and wait until age 21 to get marrie...
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[23-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Honahue#0656
okay that's looking at trends then saying follow this, I'm asking why are those the trend


[23-Jul-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this implies that full time jobs are available, and that the person in question is a teen


[23-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
Let politicians, schoolteachers and administrators, community leaders, ministers and parents drill into children the message that in a free society, they enter adulthood with three major responsibilities: at least finish high school, get a full-time job and wait until age 21 to get married and have children.
Our research shows that of American adults who followed these three simple rules, only about 2 percent are in poverty and nearly 75 percent have joined the middle class (defined as earning around $55,000 or more per year). There are surely influences other than these principles at play, but following them guides a young adult away from poverty and toward the middle class.


[23-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Serenity#9645
funny thing of living from a car is i couldnt store pizza rolls none the less warm them up many can say thats privilege


[23-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue Because those choices lead to more life opportunities.


[23-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
thats a tautalogy


[23-Jul-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku that article says absolutely nothing in regards to what you're arguing for


[23-Jul-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> our research
What research?


[23-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
You must not have read it.


[23-Jul-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what do they mean by "following the rules successfully?" Most of the time people in a poor community don't have easy choices for jobs


[23-Jul-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have, and that article is incredibly barebones


[23-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my area has walmart, food lion, and piggly wiggly


[23-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and a hand full of gas stations


[23-Jul-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those aren;t exactly high paying jobs


[23-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Honahue#0656
if you're going to use anecdotes too I have at least a few friends that did the script and more and ended up broke anyway cause they graduated with engineering degrees in 2008 during the finacial crisis


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Serenity#9645
my area had a taco bell and mcdonalds and a few gas stations so? i still worked hard well being homeless (w/ broken car) with no family support nor govt support (kept getting denied)


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
never married or had kids


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Serenity#9645
still went into avionics and got myself out


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
guess they just didn't boot strat an aeronautics degree hard enough


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, we're not talking about personal responsibilities here. This is a macrohistorical issue with societies as a whole


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Frosku#5874
Theres no anecdote, this is what the empirical data says. If you dont like the data, find better data.


[23-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
you've used anecdotes earlier


[23-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Honahue#0656
and I could just use data that show millenials are poorer and worse off than boomers


[23-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
If you want to make excuses for people who make bad choices and straw men about bootstraps, I'm not going to listen to them.


[23-Jul-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i went into hvac, that;s a profitable business but unfortunately for me no one told me it was going to cost thousands to start up that career


[23-Jul-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku https://www.stand-together.org/drives-cycle-poverty/

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What Drives the Cycle of Poverty? - Stand Together Foundation
According to the 2016 Census, over 40 million Americans are living below the poverty line—a rate of approximately 13.5 percent. Additionally, 43 percent of children below the age of 18 live in low-income families—that is, families with incomes from the poverty line to 200 perc...
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[23-Jul-20 04:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You have to literally pay for every tool yourself, pay for the rule books, pay for a van, pay for literally everything that isnt attatched to an office


[23-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Your article largely agrees with mine.


[23-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
if it's so simple to follow that script why is it still a problem then that was my original question anyway


[23-Jul-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.concernusa.org/story/causes-of-poverty/

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What are the causes of poverty? Here are 11 of the top reasons
Around 8% of the world’s population lives in extreme poverty — but do you know why? We look at 11 of the top causes of global poverty (updated for 2020).
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[23-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Frosku#5874
"We believe meaningful employment is the most direct way to transcend poverty."

"The breakdown of the family—through divorce, teen pregnancy, or “fatherlessness,” to name a few—produces significant emotional, educational, and financial tolls on today’s youth."

"Each year, 1.2 million students in the United States drop out of high school, putting them at great risk for drug use, unemployment, and government assistance."

So basically... get a job, finish high school, and dont have kids outside of marriage.


[23-Jul-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i could also work in a parts hosue, but guess what, there;s none located here and i dont have the mobility to move to a location where one resides


[23-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Serenity#9645
i have friends in HVAC they didnt have to pay for a van or tools they were supplied everything. not denying that that doesnt exist, i worked abit in cable and had to buy my own tools but i know the other cable company in town provided the tools


[23-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue Because people are choosing not to follow it.

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[23-Jul-20 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmfao


[23-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Honahue#0656
it's always personal choice, just some people don't want to get out of poverty


[23-Jul-20 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone tries to follow that script and self destructs


[23-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
No one is forcing people to drop out of high school or have casual sex. People are choosing that for themselves.


[23-Jul-20 04:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Congratulations, here's your clown certificate


[23-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
When did we become a country that eschewed personal responsibility and blamed everyone else for our personal failures?


[23-Jul-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Individual choice and script following does not bring people out of poverty -- collective action does


[23-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
Except that my data and your data says otherwise.


[23-Jul-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, i have data for that -- *the entire civil rights movement*


[23-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
collective action is resposible for pretty much every US and EU labor law


[23-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Honahue#0656
people didn't vote for 8 hour work days


[23-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Serenity#9645
i finished high school well homeless, got a job, and didnt get married or have a kid. you can add me to the statistic of getting out of poverty.


[23-Jul-20 04:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*the entirety of labor struggle around the world*


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
Labor laws dont get people out of poverty if they drop out of high school or pop out a kid at 15, because they dont get jobs.


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That is what pressures governments to negotiate and give people better conditions of living, which they can then use to ascend socially


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Honahue#0656
you make it sound like having a kid as a teen should be punished by poverty


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm 29, got a job, finished high school and i;m just above poverty, which means nothing because poverty is only below a certain level so they can deny benefits to people who need them


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
@Serenity As if by magic


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also have no children


[23-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue Personal choices should determine success or failure.


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Honahue#0656
right so what's so bad about having a kid?


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
If you dont like where your choices lead, dont make them.


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the poverty level should be raised


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Honahue#0656
right so why is it that having a kid young deserves punishment


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good to know we have psychic powers that tell us where our choices lead us


[23-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Nothing, if you have a kid in a stable relationship when you can afford to raise one. Everything if you expect someone else to do it.


[23-Jul-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'll be sure to use those


[23-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
I dont want to raise your kids, no offense, I just don't.


[23-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Honahue#0656
thats literally Malthus logic about kids


[23-Jul-20 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every working class person does that sort of choice balnce, every single day. What happens is that it does not matter for them because poverty is a cycle -- some may ascend to the middle class at most, like you, but nobody there is able to change the whole system or at least modify it if they act individually


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
I'll be the 1% in 10 years, dont worry :p


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Honahue#0656
I don't want kids but I don't think people should be punished for having them even if they do when they're young


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
In one generation


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But will you be in the *0,1%?*


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Only those can pull any strings


[23-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
Who knows? But if I get to the 1%, my kids have a better chance of getting to the 0.1.


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what about the rest?


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
They should do exactly as described above.


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Honahue#0656
it's nice to see it does really come down to "fuck you got mine"


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Work hard, dont sleep around and get pregnant, finish school.


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have done all of the above


[23-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Serenity#9645
oh no im gay and drink alot and make bad decisions, im a individual! someone fire me from my avionix job so i can go back to being homeless and repeat the poverty cycle!


[23-Jul-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another factor is location


[23-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah if you choose to make bad decisions, you deserve to deal with the outcome of those decisions. I have no sympathy for people who want to live it large and be a playboy then get kicked in the ass by life like everyone warned them they would.


[23-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Honahue#0656
it's individualism until it comes down to what you contribute to society


[23-Jul-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, what amuses me about this clownery is that 19th century mudsill theory at least obviously argued that social hierarchization is "inevitable". Here, we got arguably the same ideology except illuding working class people by presenting a "wacky jell-O" mudsill which is even more nefarious


[23-Jul-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a city or the suburbs, you might have a shot to find a job and slowly climb out of the hole. In rural farmland you;re pretty much stranded far from civilization with barely any job options


[23-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Its honestly hilarious that you're just repeatedly tossing around insults like a retard tbh.


[23-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm a clown and I've still done more than you'll ever do and seen more than you'll ever see. How does that feel?


[23-Jul-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because i know you won't be convinced by me -- you're obviously petit-bourgeois and your class interests do not align with mine


[23-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Serenity#9645
funny enough i was in the middle of nowhere tennessee living out of my car, i think i was 30 mins each direction from civilization starting off. then the smallest town i could find hired me and it was close enough to my school that i took it


[23-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't have class interests. I have a desire to get people to make good choices and make a better life for themselves.


[23-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Honahue#0656
man it's crazy how badly Calvinism has ruined peoples minds


[23-Jul-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You'll waddle in your self made man ideology until the economy crashes again and you're likely forced back into a low end job


[23-Jul-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, you do have class interests -- your whole belief system gives it away.


[23-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Frosku#5874
The economy already crashed again in case you didn't notice.


[23-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Honahue#0656
you 100% have class instrests, you've esentially been explaining them and how you justify your econmic positions this whole time if you don't think that's class then I guess you should've payed attention in school more


[23-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Serenity#9645
im still working pretty fine i doubt hospital helicopters will be going away soon and if they did i still have quite a few backup plans


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't need class interests. I worked hard and made it work from shitty beginnings. Do the same.


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Your interest is to increase the size of the petit-bourgeoisie and keep its ideology firmly in place for the social organization you desire, while leaving the proletarian class in its usual place to sustain you


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Serenity#9645
if anything i think i work more now then ever...


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
Sounds a lot like @Serenity did the same thing and miraculously got the same outcome.


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They might have had reserve money and connections to get out of it


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
It's almost like personal responsibility leads to better consequences.


[23-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you know, just have rich parents.


[23-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Either or.


[23-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
He was living in a car, I was living on my friends couch in a trailer. It doesn't sound like either of us had connections.


[23-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what year was this?


[23-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Serenity#9645
homeless, middle of nowhere, no parent support and government denied me food stamps and affordable housing XD


[23-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
I got my first job 10 years ago


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so we;re working off job economics from a decade ago


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Serenity#9645
5 years ago, worked from mcdonalds to factories to cable repair to working on helicopters


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah just after the 2008 recession.


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
got it


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Serenity what sort of education did you get?


[23-Jul-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our job market is so much worse now :wheeze:


[23-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Frosku#5874
It wasnt 5 months ago, probably wont be in 6 months.


[23-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
10 years ago I was making coffee for $6/hr.


[23-Jul-20 04:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
10 years ago i was a cart pusher for walmart


[23-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Frosku#5874
So we were in a similar place, economically.


[23-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Serenity#9645
i got 4 years in computer information tech, have all the comptia certs, 6 FCC certs, and a A+P lisence got the A+P well working with aircraft


[23-Jul-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then you seem to have got the skills necessary to handle the sort of job career you went for


[23-Jul-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Isn't college private and paid in the USA? Or am i wrong?


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Frosku#5874
Its paid, not all private


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s also different levels of college


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh. I hear it's a pain in the ass for families to fund


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Frosku#5874
If you're low income then some college is free. There are grants and loans.


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
community colleges offer msotly trades and medical, higher colleges offer way more


[23-Jul-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it sounds like Serenity went to a higher college


[23-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Frosku#5874
It differs a little by state.


[23-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Serenity#9645
went to community for 2 years and state for 2. couldnt afford a good collage untill my job paid for me to do it


[23-Jul-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to study library science but in order to do that i need to manage to land a grant, because i could never afford the loan debt, and i need to find a college that will take the grant


[23-Jul-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To inform, i'm not well assured of how it works in the states -- college and education here in Brazil is often free and tax paid, the only bar to enter often being grade scores


[23-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Serenity#9645
and i also didnt get sponcerships or gov aid other then the base amount been awhile but everyone gets a little tossed at them to go


[23-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Frosku#5874
I went to a good college once I got my first business rolling.


[23-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Paid for out of pocket with some loans for living costs.


[23-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Frosku#5874
Had no college before that


[23-Jul-20 04:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did your parents help you?


[23-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
No


[23-Jul-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish the community college here offered an associates in library science but it doesnt so i need to go hunting for one that does


[23-Jul-20 04:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53508640

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Floyd murder suspect charged with tax crimes
Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is charged with multiple counts of tax evasion.
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[23-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
My parents were very poor, my dad lives in a trailer and my mom at the time lived in a run down apartment.


[23-Jul-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish he would stop staring into my soul


[23-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Serenity#9645
i really wanted to fix computers and was dead set on doing it, seems kinda stupid but i was homeless and paying to goto community collage with what i made in the factories or mcdonalds didnt eat alot or have like any free time during that but i dont regret it


[23-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
I got kicked out of home for smoking weed in the house and ended up living on a couch until I could afford my own trailer.


[23-Jul-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wow that sounds bad


[23-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
It sucked


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] illumnious#7938
damm


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Serenity#9645
my parents hated that i was gay and kicked me out


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Damn man, I'm sorry.


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, fuck


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Serenity#9645
i was 15 or 16?


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Frosku#5874
My dad never accepted that I was bi, he would just flat out deny it and try to convince me I wasnt. Then he stopped answering my phone calls.


[23-Jul-20 04:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not easy for most people to get out of, actually -- i have a friend who got kicked out of her house for being trans, an adult, and disliked, and she still struggles with rent and bills and everything, trans treatment costs and social stigma added on top


[23-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Serenity#9645
i got my first car and drove illigal as hell and learned from the local crackhead how to fix cars XD


[23-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
He suddenly wanted to talk to me again when I had a successful business.


[23-Jul-20 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[23-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
I was 16ish when I got kicked out too


[23-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Frosku#5874
idk, it lit a fire under my ass to be honest.


[23-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Serenity#9645
it was a almost fully overgrown 89 s10 blazer with electrical problems from hell but somehow turned over, gave the guy all my money $100 then and there was better then living in the woods. it was also spraypainted the ugliest baby puke blue-green with no clear XD


[23-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Serenity#9645
wierdest problem is the dash lights would turn off when the headlights turned on and vice versa lol


[23-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Frosku#5874
I just never wanted my kids to have to grow up how I grew up, so I was utterly driven to make something more of myself than 3rd generation trailer dwelling stoner.


[23-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
My dad just smokes weed all day, most days, sits on his porch and blazes and gets angry at the world. That's not a life.


[23-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, "porch".


[23-Jul-20 04:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.policylink.org/data-in-action/overview-america-working-poor


[23-Jul-20 04:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> These increases in working poverty are explained, in part, by changes in economic structure and policy. Over the last several decades, businesses have generated a disproportionate amount of low-wage jobs and wages have been flat for all but the highest earners (see the Job and wage growth indicator). To make matters worse, growing unemployment during the Great Recession pushed down on wages even further. Lifting the wages of workers requires a robust policy agenda like the one proposed by the Economic Policy Institute that tilts power back into the hands of workers.


[23-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Serenity#9645
my parents got divorced then my mother tried to ask for help and my father called and wanted me to not talk to my mother. other then that dont really hear from them


[23-Jul-20 04:42 AM] illumnious#7938
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[23-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
There are definitely systematic issues in wages in work, I'm not denying that, but the issues facing people who never get into work are far greater.


[23-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Realistically the economy has done well about 2 years out of the last 12. That's never going to be good for wages.


[23-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Synfag#9241
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[23-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Synfag#9241
she's having Big Brain time.


[23-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Frosku#5874
😂


[23-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Synfag#9241
"How can I deflect any sort of responsibility and be seen as a strong woman of color..."
*looks in the mirror*
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[23-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Synfag#9241
> hard truths you don’t want to hear

but it's truths that everybody already knows
I prefer helping people rise back up
instead of sawing the legs of those standing straight already


[23-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[23-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Synfag#9241
articles like this always want me to just *eat the rich* or something


[23-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Frosku#5874
But based on the specific 4% value I assume she got her data from a study published by Pew Charitable Trusts back in 2013 that concluded only 4% of those born into poverty reach the top quintile (20%) of the income ladder.

From the article. This is talking about making it from bottom to top quintile, not just out of poverty.


[23-Jul-20 04:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah apparently this article is non corroborating with my point, oops


[23-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Frosku#5874
That's poverty to 6 figures. Only 20% of American households make 6 figures. :p


[23-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Serenity#9645
im nowhere close to the top 20 but im sure as hell not poor lol


[23-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Frosku#5874
I was top 20 last year, might not be this year.


[23-Jul-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry


[23-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Frosku#5874
People who work for me will be but I might not be.


[23-Jul-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, that might be caused by increasing wealth concentration among the ultra rich iirc


[23-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Frosku#5874
In general I dont think most Americans prioritize making that kinda money, I certainly didn't until I got there.


[23-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Frosku#5874
Especially in a place like SC where you can be very comfortable on 50k a year.


[23-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Frosku#5874
I get that that isnt the same everywhere.


[23-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Serenity#9645
if i wanted to i could liquidate and rebuy in poland even with the crazy taxes and not have to work and live happily for the next 30 years and not owe on a house or car tho lol


[23-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Serenity#9645
not that id want to tho but polish friends have told me id be super rich there


[23-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Serenity#9645
and with my experience in germany i can see it


[23-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Frosku#5874
There are definitely cities and states where you need to earn quite a bit to be comfortable but SC isnt one of them.


[23-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Synfag#9241
remember unwoke website...
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[23-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Synfag#9241
*“It’s ok when we do it”*


[23-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Honahue#0656
6 figures in 2020 isn't even that much unless you live in the midwest or central


[23-Jul-20 04:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it seems like i linked a tough guy malthusian article by accident, sec


[23-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874
It's quite a bit in the south.


[23-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah there too


[23-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874
I live in the south so for me it's good money.


[23-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Serenity#9645
tennessee had alot less opertunity but it was super cheep there way cheeper then when my job sent me to kansas. for some reason there was alot less good jobs but everything was way more expencive


[23-Jul-20 04:57 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Car sized windowless homes or no homes?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-53502721/prime-minister-questioned-on-16-square-metre-homes?intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fpolitics&link_location=live-reporting-map
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53506168

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Small housing the 'size of the ministerial limousine'
Chair of the Housing Committee Clive Betts questioned the PM on flats which are 16 square metres.
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[23-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Frosku#5874
Tennessee is a great state.


[23-Jul-20 04:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, poverty is always relative it seems -- there are countries where being poor seems to be much more pleasant than being poor in the United States due to factors that aren't too easy to factor into statistics


[23-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Serenity#9645
actually i couldnt even find anything in kansas fun none the less jobs there, is such a sad state that their football team is located in a different state lol


[23-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Frosku#5874
lol


[23-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Frosku#5874
Gonna head off and get some sleep, later yall.


[23-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Serenity#9645
but helicopters needed fixed there so i went, germany was a lot more fun and cheeper was there for a year lol


[23-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Serenity#9645
nighty night!


[23-Jul-20 05:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Good night i guess


[23-Jul-20 05:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> but helicopters needed fixed there so i went, germany was a lot more fun and cheeper was there for a year lol
@Serenity  i hear living near the border actually tends to be an advantage for US residents, as everything is usually cheaper on the other side


[23-Jul-20 05:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need a passport, it woul;d be nice if i could study abroad for awhile


[23-Jul-20 05:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC many Muricans live in Tijuana instead of San Diego or commute frequently to the Mexican city as things are cheaper there


[23-Jul-20 05:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/termite-capitalism-how-private-equity-undermining-economy/

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[23-Jul-20 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry for link spam but uh, 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-says-trump-is-americas-first-racist-president/2020/07/22/867017e8-cc4b-11ea-bc6a-6841b28d9093_story.html


[23-Jul-20 05:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden said Trump is Murica's first racist president, obviously catering to his "return to normalcy" campaign point


[23-Jul-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isn;t our first but he is the first to practically scream it from the rooftop


[23-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Serenity#9645
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 it depends on what state, tennessee has a sales tax of almost 10% but kentucky next door has a 3% sales tax. tennessee has very low/no other taxes, but kentucky have a vehicle tax and high propery tax. so if you lived in tennessee next to kentucky you can pay almost no property taxes but goto kentucky and pay almost no sales tax


[23-Jul-20 05:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, "normalcy" never existed in the United States, it's just that it's a convenient campaign point for Biden due to Trump's well publicized buffoonery


[23-Jul-20 05:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of our economic success was also just post ww2 booms, and now that's falling hard


[23-Jul-20 05:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have an eerie feeling that Trump's going to win reelection -- there seem to be a few hidden factors aiding Trump's odds such as the disconnect between Biden's wing of the DNC and the US working class


[23-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Serenity#9645
i have the same feeling


[23-Jul-20 05:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have the same dread


[23-Jul-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Polarization won't be solved by compromise and conservatism from the DNC either


[23-Jul-20 05:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i also have a feeling that if Trump wins, he'll use the electoral map to plot out where "operation legend" should spread


[23-Jul-20 05:11 AM] Serenity#9645
i just feel like the DNC everything trump says do the opposite is going to be the downfall, trump says get the troops out of the middle east, biden says no we need to be there for stability! all the anti-war leftists go what?


[23-Jul-20 05:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I am legitimately scared at the thought of four more years of Trump's erratic governing style and the powers behind his throne pulling the strings. But at the same time i feel kinda relieved as i don't live in the US and a continuation of Trump's bridge-burning approach to foreign policy might backfire here


[23-Jul-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i didnt live in the US


[23-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Serenity#9645
i already have a avionix job lined up in germany lol


[23-Jul-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont have a passport and i have no marketable skill to other countries


[23-Jul-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm also not an engineer so that;s out the window for me


[23-Jul-20 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my field of skill is mroe research oriented


[23-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Serenity#9645
but in reality i dont care much for the bridge-burning foreign policy exept with the CCP, they can get completely cut off with their concentration camps and open racism


[23-Jul-20 05:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
germany and finland seem like nice places to live


[23-Jul-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
norway as well


[23-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Serenity#9645
germany is absolutely beautiful, i miss drinking in the streets and going to gay saunas ^^


[23-Jul-20 05:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gay saunas are a thing?


[23-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Serenity#9645
yep so are german sex dungeons XD


[23-Jul-20 05:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
neat


[23-Jul-20 05:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm scared Brazil might get worse like the United States, seeming that it already is


[23-Jul-20 05:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We even got our own Trump wannabe in the presidency, and so far nobody in power has done anything meaningful to stop him


[23-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Serenity#9645
but for the more stright people the red light districts are everywhere as well


[23-Jul-20 05:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what doesnt help right now is most countries do not want americans for very understandable reasons:hopeless:


[23-Jul-20 05:21 AM] Serenity#9645
germans seemed to like me very much


[23-Jul-20 05:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah -- everywhere outside the US there is skepticism about them


[23-Jul-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that and america is currently a plague state


[23-Jul-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was thinking more the plague state thing


[23-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Serenity#9645
but then again im not loud or arrogant and i actually took time to learn a good bit of the language


[23-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Serenity#9645
ah that yeah travel ban and all that


[23-Jul-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even canada doesn;t want us except for our medical staff


[23-Jul-20 05:23 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.achilleus-sauna.de/ also if you were curious i spent way too much time here

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[23-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Serenity#9645
idk if the us has these but i want to know now lol (even if its closed right now)


[23-Jul-20 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the us has these they;re likely located only in wealthy places


[23-Jul-20 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they look lovely though


[23-Jul-20 05:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've never been to a sauna in general


[23-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Serenity#9645
i doubt it will show the sex dungeon in the basement in the pics, largest beds i ever seen, sex swings, glory holes, porn on the tvs, blackout rooms lol


[23-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Serenity#9645
we need a reform in america to allow these establishments to flourish lol


[23-Jul-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the sex industry in america needs massive legalization


[23-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Serenity#9645
mhmm, i dont remember the study that well so im probably very wrong on the number but in countries that opened brothels rape fell like upwards of over 70% or something like that


[23-Jul-20 05:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same for sex trafficing as well most likely


[23-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Serenity#9645
people make good money, and serious crime falls win win


[23-Jul-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you legalize prostitution and brothels, then people can report assault and such during those jobs


[23-Jul-20 05:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they can also form unions and argue for better wages and labor laws


[23-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Serenity#9645
most people who buy "time" are people who dont want to be married and fight the legal system when divorce happens or have false accusations. cus no one will buy "time" from soneone who gives a false accusation. so people will feel safer in doing such practices. and brothels always have hired security that listen for such things so its super easy to report abusers


[23-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Serenity#9645
all around its a very safe practice at least in germany


[23-Jul-20 05:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most "illegal" things involving drugs and sex get wayn safer when you legalize them


[23-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Serenity#9645
yep very much so


[23-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Serenity#9645
but buyer beware if you do travel, just because the lady of the night is safe doesnt always mean the buyer is safe. i know people who got locked in a room and told to give them all their money or they wont be let free. it sometimes happens, stay away from the "discount section" if you do partake cus security is either alot less present or ok with exploitation. and its really hard to report. 1 its embaressing 2 the whole haus will testify against you


[23-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Serenity#9645
i like the saunas better, you pay 20 euro to get in, find someone you like, goto the sex dungeon. if you dont get lucky its still a spa lol


[23-Jul-20 05:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/christopher-david-navy-veteran-beaten-by-feds-speaks-out-2020-7

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[23-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
oh i saw the video for this, rioters were tossing commercial grade fireworks at the courthouse and made the feds come out and reinforce the barrier because it was starting to be torn down, so this absolute idiot went out and got in the feds faces and they asked him to leave the area many times, took many blows by baton because he kept going forward and then got maced and flipped them off well walking away lol


[23-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
he was wearing a navy shirt but i didnt know it was confermed he was a vet


[23-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Serenity#9645
wierd the video was removed from youtube with the person i follow but its not the one from the millions of news articles it was taken from the back slight right (moving to slight left when he walked away flipping off the feds) angle and had more dialogue and content about the interaction, maybe you can find it but im not seeing right now


[23-Jul-20 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Literally none of that behavior warrants that kind of response - actually, it doesn't warrant any kind of response at all


[23-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHb3xVqxcp8

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the peaceful protesters of Portland
WHY would they ever call in THE FEDS to PORTLAND?!?!

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[23-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm telling you, eventually secessionist movements will get louder.


[23-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why exactly should states that receive no help, but only federal troops, stay as a part of the US?


[23-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That will be the argument.


[23-Jul-20 08:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Perhaps, but I feel like the sentiment may be more "DC has effectively abandoned the constitution" and we'll get that *lovely* scenario where two groups simultaneously claim to be the true rightful body of government that is and always has been the United States


[23-Jul-20 08:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if one of those groups is the incumbent who does not believe it is fair to give up his power due to extenuating circumstances


[23-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Oh, fun, Tartarus got visited by a real big brain: "Floyd died of a drug overdose. Not from the officer."


[23-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I dunno, I just always assumed the 21st century would involve some sort of massive appeasement to the states to prevent rising secessionist movements


[23-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe splitting it like ancient Rome, idk


[23-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That video is basically:

- *Some* rioting happened
- Ergo, *all* protesters are rioters, none are peaceful, and all deserve to be stuffed into unmarked cars and driven off to who-knows-where by the feds

Nobody is denying rioting has happened. The issue is that peaceful protesters are getting unjustly - perhaps intentionally - lumped in with them.


[23-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Video's absolutely in bad faith and doesn't acknowledge the peaceful protests which absolutely *do* exist and comprise the majority of the movement. It's easy to just show riot footage and smugly act like all protesters are complicit in or involved in that.


[23-Jul-20 09:21 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hey


[23-Jul-20 09:21 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Bad apple spoils the bunch


[23-Jul-20 09:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, but. That's not an argument I've ever used, and I've been very anti-ACAB despite being pro-BLM, so I don't feel like it's fitting to have that sentiment ironically thrown back at me.


[23-Jul-20 09:24 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Alright, don't take it personally I'm just trolling a little


[23-Jul-20 09:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah. I thought you were making an argument. I wasn't taking it personally, I just wanted to explain why I thought that sentiment - if sincere - doesn't really justify broadly generalizing entire groups. But since you weren't serious, okay.


[23-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Synfag#9241

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[23-Jul-20 11:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, fishing time


[23-Jul-20 11:05 AM] Opponent#3498
I've been reading your shit, and I was wondering about something. It seems to me that all this discussion about pro-population welfare vs anti-population welfare, healthcare and so on is largely immaterial. Whenever _corporate_ welfare comes up, literally everyone is against it, yet it barely ever does. Curbing _that_ would seem like a priority, and once there's near unlimited funds available, freed from that direction, there's actual reason to discuss how to put them to use instead.


[23-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder what Bernie's policies were in regards of that btw.


[23-Jul-20 11:07 AM] Frosku#5874
Getting rid of corporate welfare would be a good start but it's never going to solve the issue, especially if the well-meaning socdem just finds another way to cast the money down the toilet.


[23-Jul-20 11:08 AM] Opponent#3498
given the scale of money allocated for that in corona relief alone, I'm pretty sure you could clog all the available toilets for good if that was to be done.


[23-Jul-20 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Socdem" isn't throwing money down the toilet.


[23-Jul-20 11:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US gov't does its welfare and tax cuts stupidly inefficiently.


[23-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Frosku#5874
A government being inefficient is the rule, not the exception.


[23-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welfare for the poor has high ROI, tax cuts hav almost no ROI, the IRS has the highest ROI to be funded to be able to go after fat cats.


[23-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans hav strongly pushed for things that don't make any sense from a business standpoint.


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they don't care about making the gov't more efficient, in the end.


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What they want is the gov't to not stop their rampant corporations.


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Frosku#5874
The economic difference between the mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats could barely house a cigarette paper.


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But still, Democrats generally don't actively try to sabotage shit, then say that since it doesn't work, it's bad.


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Frosku#5874
Both are welfarists


[23-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans do, on a regular basis.


[23-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Frosku#5874
Republicans just don't like admitting that they're welfarists. Dems, on this front (unlike many others) are more honest.


[23-Jul-20 11:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Meanwhile https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53494561

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[23-Jul-20 11:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Hm, in that case, I propose an answer


[23-Jul-20 11:13 AM] Frosku#5874
We drive them all to Canada, who will be their first safe country of refuge. Problem solved.

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[23-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Frosku#5874
This way, Canada can do something more than virtue signal meaninglessly, and we don't have to deal with them judging a situation they'll never have to deal with.


[23-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Everyone wins.


[23-Jul-20 11:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they deal with it all the time with americans trying to refuge across their border

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[23-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Frosku#5874
Oh yes, all 4 of those high-income well-educated Americans who claim asylum in Canada. That must put such a strain on their public services.


[23-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Frosku#5874
We had a lot of Americans claiming they'd go to Canada if Trump got elected, as far as I know very few did it. I wonder why that is.


[23-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're misunderstanding.


[23-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has declared by this that the US doesn't count for "first safe country"


[23-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in if a refugee goes thru the US, Canada can't throw them bakk to the US.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
so they're willing to accept them to prove a point?


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're putting their money where their mouth is about the issue.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, I understand, so if we -- instead of detaining asylum seekers whilst processing them -- load them up and drop them all off in Canada


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Canada already takes in about 30,000 refugees a year - more than the U.S. currently does - so I'm not sure about the "virtue signal" criticism.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Frosku#5874
We can solve our problem and theirs.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is definitely not virtue signalling.


[23-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're basically axing a treaty.


[23-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Saying the terms render it moot.


[23-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm more than okay with this.


[23-Jul-20 11:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There have actually been a lot of americans moving to canada in recent years just due to the fact that canada has better healthcare and such


[23-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Frosku#5874
How many is "a lot"?


[23-Jul-20 11:24 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm just saying, I agree with them. We are a completely unsafe country so we should offer anyone who crosses the Mexican border a free ride to Ontario.


[23-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've honestly given the idea of going to Canada some thought, but my roots are tied pretty firmly here. I own a house in America and am certified to teach here.

Getting employment/housing alone in another country would be pretty hard, much less complete the process for citizenship. I just can't afford to even attempt it.


[23-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Frosku#5874
In fact, let's double ICE's funding but they can deport illegal migrants to Canada instead of Mexico.


[23-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Frosku#5874
That would make everyone happy I assume?


[23-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, except Canada when they work out it's unsustainable.


[23-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Opponent#3498
that'd be an interesting experiment, if nothing else.


[23-Jul-20 11:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nothing is really tying me to america except distance and lack of mobility/ a passport


[23-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano Just claim asylum on the grounds that you're fleeing an unsafe country.


[23-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Maybe this would be a better welfare system: free move to Canada.


[23-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You know that wouldn't be enough. You're being facetious~

Even if it was, I don't know if I could afford another house. I live in a small place, but it's fully paid off. I think selling my house would be a big mistake regardless of where I moved, as I doubt I'd be able to fully pay off another one with whatever I made off it.


[23-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Frosku#5874
I know it wouldn't, because I know it's senseless virtue signalling. America is an incredibly safe country and Canada knows it. They just feel a need to butt in where they aren't wanted.


[23-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Opponent#3498
aaand you've missed the point of what Nebbie said. Oh well.


[23-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not a safe place to send refugees, which I think is true.


[23-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not a safe place to make petty asylum claims which are guaranteed to fail and disappear in the meantime


[23-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Canada has changed its policy, not just made some flowery statements. It's not virtue-signaling if it it affects how they handle their own asylum-seekers, which it will.


[23-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm 100% okay with Canada dealing with rampant abuse of their asylum system instead of us dealing with it, is my point


[23-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's what makes this situation interesting. I'd be genuinly interested in seing US offload it's refugees to Canada, over a number of years. And them making it work for their benefit, or not.


[23-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And honestly - as an aside - I see nothing inherently wrong with *signaling* one's virtues, assuming one actually has them. If you believe something, it's not wrong to publicly state it in some form.


[23-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it would certainly put this argument to rest.


[23-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not, as long as you're not virtue signalling in place of making a difference, or to better your own standing rather than those who need it.


[23-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This policy doesn't even mean that Canada is going to keep 100% of asylum-seekers, just that they won't be sending any here.


[23-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Frosku#5874
When Canada deals with the sheer volume of meritless asylum claims that we do


[23-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Frosku#5874
They can comment. That's my point that seems to be being missed.


[23-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure, I can agree with that.

Arguably, virtue-signaling could have positive effects too of course. Like inspiring other people to *also* do good.


[23-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Frosku#5874
Except it usually doesn't, just look at the virtue signalling over the censorship issue.


[23-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Anti-censorship side didn't need to virtue signal, we raised $12k for charity. Pro-censorship side got the charity pack pulled


[23-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder if there's data on asylum claims of Canada vs US.


[23-Jul-20 11:39 AM] Opponent#3498
there's obviously one of accepted ones, but that's not the whole picture.


[23-Jul-20 11:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You say the that "side" did as if they're a monolith. My personal opinion is that I wouldn't miss Aryanne if she got banned from derpibooru but I never got anything pulled. I imagine many did not.


[23-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And same to the pro-Aryanne side; Not all of them participated in nor get credit for the charity. Those who did, good on them assuming it was for a good cause. I don't know much about it.


[23-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
animal rescue, with equine focus. As good a cause as any, relevant to the fandom


[23-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Frosku#5874
No, thats just the sum total of their effort.


[23-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Frosku#5874
Where's their $12k? What *good* did they do?


[23-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Perhaps they do other good things unrelated to this particular issue. Wanting a website to change its policy is not a situation that inherently motivates an organized charity, so I don't think *not* having one is indicative of some lack of sincerity.


[23-Jul-20 11:43 AM] Opponent#3498
well it did motivate the opposition.


[23-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Censorship is not a noble cause.


[23-Jul-20 11:44 AM] Frosku#5874
They did no *good* is my point, they just virtue signalled "hey gaiz we dont like Nazis", which about 99.8% of the population agrees with.


[23-Jul-20 11:45 AM] Frosku#5874
They had to invent some Nazis to disagree with, too.


[23-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I think it is perfectly reasonable to use the tools available and petition the staff to change their site. The staff, of course, is free to say no. Ultimately, they did.


[23-Jul-20 11:47 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, they said "kinda, sorta, maybe" after their actual users were like "hold on a fucking second, why do Twitter have more say over policy than we do?"


[23-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I mean Some people are members of both, right? It's not as much of a dichotomy as you're framing it, but I suppose that's neither here nor there.

I was under the impression that the site's primary owner wanted the material gone anyway, so appealing to that - for someone who agreed, anyway - made sense.


[23-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Frosku#5874
My point is all they did was virtue signal that they don't like Nazis, which is the vast majority of people. They took no personal risk, and did nothing to actually fight Nazis, but they get to feel good about themselves.


[23-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Frosku#5874
This is virtue signalling. If they wanted to fight Nazis, they could have run an art pack to donate to a deradicalization org.


[23-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Frosku#5874
That would make a meaningful difference to real life.


[23-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Frosku#5874
And no, there's zero data to suggest the userbase actually gave a shit about removing Aryanne. Every (admittedly imperfect) poll ended up in favor of less censorship, not more.


[23-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think there is a risk, though. The internet is incredibly inhospitable to "SJWs" who are perceived as whiny and annoying. Speaking up about material you think is bigoted carries the risk of abject mockery and derision, I'd say. Clearly the "riskless" option would be to take neither side and say nothing.


[23-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Frosku#5874
OK, they took the minor risk of having their fee-fees hurt by mean people who don't like censorship.

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[23-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Frosku#5874
They didn't risk their jobs, they didn't challenge the establishment, they didn't make any meaningful personal contribution to a cause.

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[23-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Frosku#5874
They screamed about pixels.


[23-Jul-20 11:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like that's just kinda oversimplifying, but okay. I didn't scream, anyway. I had an opinion, I expressed it, I *clearly* accepted it when the staff didn't do what I preferred or else I wouldn't still be here.


[23-Jul-20 11:55 AM] Frosku#5874
Having an opinion is fine, it's why we have filters.


[23-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Frosku#5874
Personally I think scat/foalcon/snuff are degenerate and disgusting. That's why I don't look at them.

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[23-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My opinion is a bit more nuanced than just "This is bad so it should go" anyway. It was "The owner specifically wanted it gone, so he should get to make that call."


[23-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Personally I think #politics  are degenerate and disgusting. That's why I don't look at them.

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[23-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Opponent#3498
liar.


[23-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
You just did bro

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[23-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Frosku#5874
@Stoopedhooy What you need to do is petition to delete #politics because you don't like it, though.


[23-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Frosku#5874
You're doing social justice wrong.


[23-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Delete all politicians amirite.


[23-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
No,he should start a campaign in twitter


[23-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Frosku#5874
He should also go to Fox News and claim that we harbor communists AND Nazis.

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[23-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
That's true tho


[23-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Deepiboru hosts all kind of deviants


[23-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It is true. There are true believers who aren't ironic.


[23-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Frosku#5874
And ANARCHISTS


[23-Jul-20 11:59 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm a political radical, just anti-authoritarian radical.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Opponent#3498
you're like a bisexual


[23-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't count.


[23-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Frosku#5874
I am bisexual 😂


[23-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bisexual_pride_flag:


[23-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
see. Now you _definitely_ don't count.


[23-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Frosku#5874
I guess pansexual, to be accurate.


[23-Jul-20 12:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
On the plus side, we can sneak around really well due to our invisibility.


[23-Jul-20 12:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Pansexual just means you are desperate bisexual :smugset:


[23-Jul-20 12:02 PM] Frosku#5874
I genuinely just care far more about who people are than what gender/what parts they have.

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[23-Jul-20 12:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm pan too I guess; like, I'd be fine dating a nonbinary person. But I generally say bisexual because everyone knows what that means.

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[23-Jul-20 12:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Same, pretty much.


[23-Jul-20 12:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
thanks for the egg

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[23-Jul-20 12:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tf2 harbors pansexuals. So many people want that golden pan.


[23-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hmoorkin is a pansexual


[23-Jul-20 12:06 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm ponesexual


[23-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Same


[23-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that's a given here


[23-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Does pansexual means "allsexual"?


[23-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Frosku#5874
It's bisexual + nonbinary attracted


[23-Jul-20 12:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I think it's bi but not exactly


[23-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
All these genders makes me confused


[23-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess technially a bisexual could be into nonbinary people too. Like if they only like women and NB people but not men, they do strictly speaking like two of the options.


[23-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just leave male female and others


[23-Jul-20 12:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Same, but primarily I'm libertarian and happy to help people live their life however makes sense to them.


[23-Jul-20 12:09 PM] Frosku#5874
If someone wants to be called a pronoun, I will make a best attempt to remember it regardless of my personal opinions of it


[23-Jul-20 12:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Pretty much every NB person I know just goes by they/them instead of the obscure tumblr pronouns. I've never been asked to use zhey/zher or anything, but I mean, I'd do it if someone went by those. I'm just saying that stuff's really uncommon.


[23-Jul-20 12:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will you help them catch all the hiding jews/kulaks too?


[23-Jul-20 12:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah same, the nonbinary people I know use they/them.


[23-Jul-20 12:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Or in one case asked to be called 'it' which was pretty weird and got me in trouble with an SJW who thought I was being rude. 😂


[23-Jul-20 12:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Being called "it" is pretty lood.


[23-Jul-20 12:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Neuter gender pronouns sound indeed offensive because it is applicable to non-human in wide sense.


[23-Jul-20 12:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess I could see how someone could use it to be empowering. Like, "You wanna call me it? Fine, I call myself it. Thanks for using my pronoun."


[23-Jul-20 12:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah tbh that was probably what happened.


[23-Jul-20 12:15 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
There is a fetish for being treated as an inanimate object.


[23-Jul-20 12:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I personally never really was into insult-reclamation myself. Like, I never tried to "take back" anti-gay slurs and use them on myself or anything. I think it's valid for those who do it, absolutely, but I always felt like I might come off as indirectly insulting to *other* people?

Like, if I went around using gay as an insult and throwing the f-slur around, some gay person who didn't know I'm bi might just think I'm some homophobic asshole who actually doesn't like them.


[23-Jul-20 12:21 PM] Frosku#5874
tbh I find it pretty empowering to just self-identify as a kike/faggot. Words have just never really bothered me. One of my friends who is also a 4channer says I'm only half-faggot though so it's not OK for me to say it 😂


[23-Jul-20 12:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I don't think I'm offended on behalf of myself


[23-Jul-20 12:21 PM] Frosku#5874
But yeah context matters for that.


[23-Jul-20 12:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I do worry about hurting others mainly


[23-Jul-20 12:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Like I wouldn't call myself those things in front of my grandparents.


[23-Jul-20 12:24 PM] Frosku#5874
But when you've spent like 10 years on anonymous imageboards


[23-Jul-20 12:24 PM] Frosku#5874
It's hard to be offended by words any more. They just become background noise.


[23-Jul-20 12:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, for me it's not the words themselves... I do agree the sentiment behind the words is what actually matters, and I think sincere prejudice is something we should do our best to discourage.

But since my sarcasm-detector is busted I have a hard time telling the difference.


[23-Jul-20 12:26 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree with that for the most part, though I do think to a degree refusing to give anyone a reaction when they're throwing dehumanizing shit around is empowering, because it defangs their shit.


[23-Jul-20 12:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Contextually, I agree


[23-Jul-20 12:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, if someone's attacking someone else and you can stand up for that person, do it. But if they're just trying to get a rise out of me specifically, nah, not taking the bait.


[23-Jul-20 12:27 PM] Frosku#5874
If someone calls me a fag and I'm unfazed, they can say it as much as they want but it's meaningless. If I clutch my pearls and act offended, they're going to realize they got to me.


[23-Jul-20 12:27 PM] Frosku#5874
Agree there, the choice to disempower it has to be with the person it's aimed at, not the people around them.


[23-Jul-20 12:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah


[23-Jul-20 12:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think I'm a little protective when I see someone being put down in part because I'm a teacher. I'm used to working with people who are still figuring themselves out and *are* honestly easily hurt by social rejection. It's something you become more callused to as an adult, usually.


[23-Jul-20 12:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, again I think 10 years on anonymous imageboards is very desensitizing to words


[23-Jul-20 12:32 PM] Opponent#3498
heh. Kinda wish I had someone like you in my school days now.


[23-Jul-20 12:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Going from words to actual sentiments here... Frosku, I've gotta ask this. Since you're a 4channer and you're clearly not racist yourself, do you think most of /pol/ actually means the shit they say? Like, it it a giant gag or do they legitimately mean it?


[23-Jul-20 12:35 PM] Frosku#5874
No, 90% of the stuff on /pol/ is ironic, but there are actual neonazis on there. It's not usually that hard to tell the difference.


[23-Jul-20 12:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was always under the impression that maybe it was somewhere in the middle. People who are actually a little racist but not full-blown fascist exaggerating the real prejudices they have, rather than just making them up out of whole cloth. I dunno, maybe that's not it either.


[23-Jul-20 12:37 PM] Frosku#5874
I say this with the caveat that I don't actually use /pol/. I've been there a few times when people link things there, but I'm mostly active on /mlp/, /k/, and /v/.


[23-Jul-20 12:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see, I see.

I used to browse 4chan *way* back in the day, like 2006-2007-ish. But I feel like the culture back then was different. It felt different to me, anyway. Less politically charged, less like it was an inherently "right wing" site maybe.


[23-Jul-20 12:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't know, it could also just be that as I got older my own views changed too. It's possible the site didn't change all that much


[23-Jul-20 12:43 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think 4chan is inherently right-wing, it's inherently very hostile to authoritarianism.


[23-Jul-20 12:43 PM] Frosku#5874
There are a lot of unironic trotskyists on 4chan.


[23-Jul-20 12:46 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity, you mean this video? he was standing still when the federal thugs started hitting him and pepper spraying him https://imgur.com/V9NPZKB

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[23-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
in even the most biased lens, that man was doing nothing that deserved getting hit multiple times by a baton


[23-Jul-20 12:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, like

I'm not denying the riots are happening. They are, they're bad, I don't condone them.

But peaceful protesters are getting unfairly swept up in this.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
and especially nothing that deserved the mace to the face


[23-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Give me the 5 mins before and after, and audio please.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Would *any* audio justify him being sprayed?

Motionless disrespect is not dangerous.


[23-Jul-20 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
there's audio at the source of that link


[23-Jul-20 12:50 PM] Frosku#5874
I just want to see context. I'm fed up of condemning things only to later find out I was wrong because context.


[23-Jul-20 12:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
according to accounts, he walked up to them and asked them why they were breaking the vow they took to protect the people, and they got super violent with him


[23-Jul-20 12:50 PM] Crow#5457
even if the guy was screaming expletives at the police while somehow calmly standing in place, he didn't deserve to get beaten with the baton or pepper sprayed in the face


[23-Jul-20 12:50 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't know what he was doing before.


[23-Jul-20 12:50 PM] Frosku#5874
No, but if he was trying to grab onto them when they turned their backs to him, maybe?


[23-Jul-20 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the msot physical he got was pushing a mace can out of his face


[23-Jul-20 12:52 PM] Frosku#5874
We all remember the catholic high school kids and the Native man, and how videos can be cut to completely misrepresent situations. That's all.


[23-Jul-20 12:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In that situation, some of those boys were still mocking the Native chant which was pretty douchey even with context.

Agreed that the guy shouldn't have gone right up to the kid's face though.


[23-Jul-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Tazerface16/status/1286001493737213952

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[23-Jul-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
this is the account of the navy vet who got his hand broken


[23-Jul-20 12:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmAdEp6pAp4

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Two USNA Alumni stand against brutality in Portland
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They are attacked just feet away from a group of protesting mothers
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[23-Jul-20 12:58 PM] Crow#5457
this video was taken by another navy vet next to the guy who got his hand broken


[23-Jul-20 12:59 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't find it particularly hard to believe that the feds are cunts.


[23-Jul-20 12:59 PM] Crow#5457
they were yelling "Do you remember your oath of office!?" angrily


[23-Jul-20 12:59 PM] Frosku#5874
That's pretty much the philosophy I subscribe to. I just don't like getting burned by well-cut footage.


[23-Jul-20 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
>  Notice the only violence being perpetuated is by these stormtroopers. He asked if they remembered their oath of office. The problem is they never took an oath of office.


[23-Jul-20 01:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah I can't see anything to justify that reaction from the feds.


[23-Jul-20 01:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even if there was the possibility of something being arrest-worthy prior to this footage, which is an argument in the same vein as saying George Floyd deserved what happened to him because he broke the law, there is *nothing* which should have escalated this situation


[23-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Which.. doesn't surprise me.


[23-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
so yeah @Serenity, there's nothing in either videos that shows the veterans getting in the faces of the feds, there's nothing in either videos that shows the feds asking them to leave the area multiple times, and there's nothing that shows them keep moving forward as they were beaten by batons


[23-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Frosku#5874
@WingbeatPony Agreed, breaking the law doesn't justify extrajudicial punishment.


[23-Jul-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
please don't spread misinformation in this channel


[23-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And I'm just against the feds even being here in the first place.

Trump - who publicly claims to champion small-government - shouldn't be sending officers to a community where the municipal government and local law enforcement don't even want them there.


[23-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump has literally never supported small government, that's the major criticism he gets from the right.


[23-Jul-20 01:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's claimed he does.


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He obviously does not.


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Frosku#5874
He isn't ideologically driven by the idea of liberty and a government that exists primarily to protect it. He's ideologically driven by a government that serves to enforce his idea of law & order.


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's said that too, yeah


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Whilst I still prefer him to Biden, I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch.


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think he's ideologically inconsistent enough to say a bunch of contradictory ideas about his vision of government, in fairness.


[23-Jul-20 01:04 PM] Frosku#5874
My guy in the primary was Rand. Second to Rand was Cruz.


[23-Jul-20 01:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump was down in the duldrums with Jeb and Kasich.


[23-Jul-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of the time when politicians say "small government" they typically mean small welfare and no corporate regulations


[23-Jul-20 01:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they're perfectly willing to go full military though


[23-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Frosku#5874
My idea of small government is exactly what it says on the tin.


[23-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I can relate, man. I'm also not happy with Biden. Sanders was my main man. My vote for Biden is less an enthusiastic endorsement and more choosing the lesser evil.


[23-Jul-20 01:06 PM] Frosku#5874
Sanders v Trump would actually be a hard one for me.


[23-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Frosku#5874
I prefer Sanders on social issues and Trump on economics.


[23-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Frosku#5874
A lot of Bernie's social policy ideas resonate strongly with me, and for the most part he's refused to play the "them vs us" game along racial lines.


[23-Jul-20 01:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Just not sure I could stomach voting for someone who wants to tax me at 70% 😂


[23-Jul-20 01:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, Bernie acknowledges racial discrimination's a real problem and has spoken against it. He always has, as far back as the 80s. But yeah, obviously he's not divisive about it; He frames it as a thing that's bad for all Americans, which it is.


[23-Jul-20 01:09 PM] Crow#5457
tax brackets don't work like that


[23-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, which is how I see it too, racial discrimination is bad for all of us, but it shouldn't be something we use to hit white people over the head (and likely encourage more white identity politics).


[23-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Crow#5457
you aren't being taxed 70% for your entire income, you're being taxed 70% for all income above a certain threshold


[23-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, but that would be quite a bit of my income by the end of a 2020 term, I hope.


[23-Jul-20 01:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, wait. Who in politics is hitting white people *in general* with it? I see people going after people with racist views, but not people who are simply white.


[23-Jul-20 01:11 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean the entire "shut the fuck up, you're privileged" narrative is racist as fuck tbh.


[23-Jul-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, but that's a vocal minority


[23-Jul-20 01:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh sure, sure. Privilege is a real thing, but I've never been on board with the whole "be a dick to the majority/privileged group" mentality. I don't think most are.


[23-Jul-20 01:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, but that vocal minority needs to be smacked down by other people on the left, I feel like it's the left-wing version of a dog-whistle at this point to refuse to disavow it.


[23-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Privilege is a real thing but it's not as simple as they make it out to be.


[23-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, I'm a man and I think society absolutely treats me better than it treats women - *but* that doesn't mean it'd be right for someone to hate me for being  a man, either, or totally discount my opinion or anything like that.


[23-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't, for a second, think the average trailer park redneck is more privileged in society than Barack Obama.


[23-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I think in *most* senses men are treated better, there are exceptions to that though.


[23-Jul-20 01:13 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389036438718513153/735725375874793543/Screenshot_20200723-070931.jpg
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[23-Jul-20 01:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
One exception is child custody cases, I'd say.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Male victims of rape and domestic abuse aren't taken as seriously, child custody is a major issue, emotional responses by men are far less socially acceptable than by women.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which stems from the same bullshit gender roles that are used to keep women down, to be fair! The idea that "women are nurturers, not men" is used to justify usually not giving men custody in divorce settlements.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
needing to be mentally evaluated to own a gun isn't the same thing as giving up guns, but okay


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Frosku#5874
In general though, our system infantilizes women and that has positives and negatives for women.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Frosku#5874
More negatives, but both need to be dealt with.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Crow#5457
daily reminder that there's a socialist rifle association


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
Oh, that meme wasn't in context to the conversation.


[23-Jul-20 01:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think that men being emotional is at least staring to become more normalized. And that's a good thing.


[23-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Rifle_Association

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Socialist Rifle Association
The Socialist Rifle Association (SRA) is an American socialist firearm organization that is dedicated to "providing working class people the information they need to be effectively armed for self and community defense". The group advocates for Second Amendment gun-rights.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Socialist_Rifle_Association_Logo.png


[23-Jul-20 01:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just wanted to post that.


[23-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Frosku#5874
^ Good


[23-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Based. Marx himself said workers should be armed.


[23-Jul-20 01:15 PM] Frosku#5874
I've noticed more people on the left in favor of gun rights recently, I think that's a positive thing.


[23-Jul-20 01:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The whole tyranical government being a real and present reality and not just a hypothetical is a factor, perhaps.


[23-Jul-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
tbh if the left in the US was more supportive of gun control, we might've been seeing some of the secret police in portland getting shot


[23-Jul-20 01:16 PM] Frosku#5874
I wouldn't call the government tyrannical but it's certainly getting very authoritarian (and that goes back to the end of Dubya).


[23-Jul-20 01:17 PM] Frosku#5874
https://reason.com/2020/07/21/rand-paul-its-time-to-demilitarize-the-police/

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Rand Paul: It's Time To Demilitarize the Police
The line between peace officer and soldier of war has become far too blurry.
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/zumaamericastwentyeight065037-1200x630.jpg


[23-Jul-20 01:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, totally agreed. Good on Rand here.


[23-Jul-20 01:19 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm largely in favor of demilitarizing the police and having specialist, and well-trained, SWAT units which are used when all other options are off the table.


[23-Jul-20 01:20 PM] Frosku#5874
i.e. counter-terrorism and dealing with heavily armed barricaded criminals


[23-Jul-20 01:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, that makes sense.


[23-Jul-20 01:20 PM] Frosku#5874
In general, we should not be sending essentially soldiers to manage protestors.


[23-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Frosku#5874
It just escalates the situation


[23-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've said this before, but I also think it'd go a long way to - whenever *possible,* anyway, I know it isn't always - have police patrol communities and neighborhoods they're actually from. Where they know the people.

Not even necessarily a race thing. A white cop who lives in a predominantly black community could be a better fit than a black cop from out of town. Having familiarity and investment with the people matters.


[23-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm generally in favor of that, community trust is *so* crucial to good policing.


[23-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Frosku#5874
If the people know and trust their local cops, and the cops know the local area, you're going to have more peace.


[23-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Which is the whole point of *peace* officers (which is what we used to call them).


[23-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. That, and holding officers who step out of line accountable.

I do not think all or even most cops are bad. I think ACAB is a fucking stupid slogan that undermines this movement and creates needless division. The issue is that the cops who *are* bad frequently get protected by the system instead of drummed out of it.


[23-Jul-20 01:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why do the police have weapons literally banned by the geneva convention against other countries?


[23-Jul-20 01:25 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, I think most cops are good, but giving every cop body armor and a long rifle, and having them drive around in tanks is not encouraging the good.


[23-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Frosku#5874
If you are continuously prepared for armed conflict in everything from the clothes you wear to the weapons you carry to the vehicles you ride around in, you're going to internalize that.


[23-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, exactly. Demilitarize, build community trust, and start giving bad cops *real consequences* instead of giving them paid leave or a transfer to another department.


[23-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Also yes, ACAB is stupid, insulting and divisive.


[23-Jul-20 01:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@prism stryder(intexda)  did USA sign the convention?


[23-Jul-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The United States has signed and ratified the four Conventions of 1949 and Protocol III of 2005, but has not ratified the two Protocols of 1977, though it has signed them.


[23-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Frosku#5874
https://reason.com/video/why-bad-cops-arent-punished-the-case-against-qualified-immunity/
Reforming or abolishing qualified immunity is essential to that.

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Why Bad Cops Aren't Punished: The Case Against Qualified Immunity
Police officers shouldn't be above the law.
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[23-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes. And *this* is what ticks me off, Frosku. I *will* agree that virtue-signaling is a problem here.


[23-Jul-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically america is not allowed to use tear gas or other chemical weapons in war, but we still use them agaisnt our own citizens


[23-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
30 or so states repainted roads or made some nice flowery statement. Only *one* of them ended qualified immunity.


[23-Jul-20 01:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Colorado, good on them. But we need to get rid of that backwards policy in all 50 states.


[23-Jul-20 01:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't want murals or renamed streets. I want material, lasting change to policy. That's what these protests have been about.


[23-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Painting "Black Lives Matter" outside Trump Tower is actually a great example of the type of virtue signalling I despise.


[23-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Frosku#5874
A) There is no indication that Trump actually disagrees with it;
B) New York has one of the most brutal police forces in the country.


[23-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. Who does that help? You don't *paint* police brutality away. You *legislate* it away.


[23-Jul-20 01:32 PM] Frosku#5874
https://cato.org/publications/survey-reports/poll-62-americans-say-they-have-political-views-theyre-afraid-share

"50% of strong liberals support firing Trump donors, 36% of strong conservatives support firing Biden donors; 32% are worried about missing out on job opportunities because of their political opinions"

This is really unhealthy.


[23-Jul-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/trump-black-lives-matter-347051

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Trump: Black Lives Matter is a 'symbol of hate'
The president angrily reacted to New York City's decision to paint the slogan in front of Trump Tower.
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[23-Jul-20 01:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there you go.


[23-Jul-20 01:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd say it depends on what those political opinions are, also


[23-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 01:36 PM] Frosku#5874
"A third (33%) among those who worry that their political views could harm their employment supported firing either Biden or Trump donors, compared to 24% of those who were not worried about their views impacting their jobs. **This suggests that those who fear reprisal or economic penalty for their political views are not entirely distinct from those who seek the same for others**."


[23-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Depends on what conservative opinions are being shared. I don't think most people would hate someone for differing views on taxes and infrastructure. Socially conservative views, however, tend to be pretty much inherently hierarchical. They're predicated on the belief that some people are better or more worthy of humane treatment than others.

This is why, while I'm a leftist, I can get along okay with libertarian conservatives despite our *strong* disagreement on the economy. Because they still buy into the basic premise that people should be treated equally.


[23-Jul-20 01:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why should anyone be fired for their politics?


[23-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean, you can't actually reform those views without people being willing to share them though. This just causes more polarization and causes people to seek echo chambers.


[23-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Frosku#5874
People don't stop believing something because they stop saying it publicly.


[23-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@>That Guy because of douchebag employers


[23-Jul-20 01:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That guy, to use an extreme example to prove a point:

- Imagine you're an employer
- Your employee is an open [x-race]-supremacist. Doesn't even hide it.
- Your customers do not like that and business decreases.

That's why, even if you're completely amoral and don't care as an employer.


[23-Jul-20 01:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
Douchebag employers responding to mass hysteria hurting their stocks.


[23-Jul-20 01:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why can't people just separate politics from their personal lives?


[23-Jul-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because politics effects personal lives


[23-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Most people don't want to give money to someone who hates them/hates their friends.


[23-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano I don't think an average Trump/Biden donor is an x-race supremacist though.


[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also some businesses donate to causes I find abhorrent.


[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it turns out having an employee actively saying black people should be lynched to the faces of black people, is really bad for business


[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure, I'm not saying "lose job if voted for x-candidate"

I'm saying "lose job if openly prejudiced"


[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
Whatever, I don't let politics get in the way of my economic decisions.


[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.cato.org/survey-reports/state-free-speech-tolerance-america

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[23-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Dr. Mechano in that example sounds like one cannot keep business professional.


[23-Jul-20 01:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[23-Jul-20 01:43 PM] Frosku#5874
From here, more very polarizing stats.

"51% of strong liberals say it’s “morally acceptable” to punch Nazis.
53% of Republicans favor stripping U.S. citizenship from people who burn the American flag.
51% of Democrats support a law that requires Americans use transgender people’s preferred gender pronouns.
47% of Republicans favor bans on building new mosques.
58% of Democrats say employers should punish employees for offensive Facebook posts.
65% of Republicans say NFL players should be fired if they refuse to stand for the national anthem."


[23-Jul-20 01:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't consider someone saying "Black people are subhuman" to just be another political opinion.


[23-Jul-20 01:43 PM] Frosku#5874
That's not what people are being fired for though. They're being fired for saying things like "all lives matter" (which is pretty much the most liberal statement there is)


[23-Jul-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the phrase all lives matter is actually very dismissive of social issues


[23-Jul-20 01:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
While I could go on a tangent about why All Lives Matter is not a helpful statement in the context it's usually given in, I of course am not for firing them for that.


[23-Jul-20 01:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
No lives matter.

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[23-Jul-20 01:44 PM] Frosku#5874
It's essentially a paraphrasing of our founding principle -- that all men are created equally with unalienable rights including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is literally the country's founding belief.


[23-Jul-20 01:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i'll do it

i'm going on the tangent


[23-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Frosku#5874
BTW these are the kind of statements we are divided about. I don't think believing any of these things should get you fired from your job.

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[23-Jul-20 01:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Speech can be "offensive", but it should never be illegal.


[23-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay, so.

I agree. All Lives Matter, 100%.

The issue is that "all lives" are not being treated the same right now. The phrase "Black Lives Matter" is better understood as meaning black lives matter **too.** It's drawing attention to the fact that black people face unique prejudices in this society.

When someone says "All Lives Matter" *in this context,* it feels dismissive.

It's like, I dunno, telling a firefighter "all houses matter" when they go to a specific house that's on fire.


[23-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Depends on where they say it at. Politics and other unrelated topic must be kept outside of work. That's training issue at employer side. And employer does not realize that and fires person for possibility of showing their views at work.


[23-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
obviously you shouldn't be fired for saying it still


[23-Jul-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a difference between believing things, and openly airing them to the public


[23-Jul-20 01:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
Thing is, today you can be fired for things you say off the clock.


[23-Jul-20 01:47 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think everyone saying "black lives matter" means "black lives matter too" though. When you get rioters who are saying "black lives matter", and beating or killing people... they evidently don't believe that all lives matter.

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[23-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure.

But *most* people protesting under that banner aren't doing that. The looters and rioters are opportunists who use this movement as an excuse to be the shitty people they always were.


[23-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@>That Guy because employer is douchebag. And in general, never ever register with real name.


[23-Jul-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences and openly walking up to a group of latino people and yelling about how "y'all should be deported" is not really considered business friendly


[23-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Most aren't, but most cops also aren't killing black people and yet it's acceptable to call out the ones who are.

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[23-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course.


[23-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Frosku#5874
And it should be, because any number of people doing a bad thing should be called out for it.


[23-Jul-20 01:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
Good idea.
I never use Facebook or Twitter or other non-Anonymous social media anyway. I just prefer to scream whatever I'm thinking to anybody around me who cares to listen.


[23-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Have I not called out and openly condemned the rioters? Not only the rioters, but those stoking division by blaming all cops? We're in agreement there.


[23-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Right, but "all lives matter" is a criticism of BLM rioters, in context. That's how I've seen it used.


[23-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I do use social media, but in professional capacity and keep chater shut in professional capacity.


[23-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Frosku#5874
It is essentially saying "black lives matter, but they're not the only lives that matter".


[23-Jul-20 01:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i just

I wish the movement *had* been called Black Lives Matter Too because then there wouldn't be this ambiguity that people would be stuck arguing about.


[23-Jul-20 01:52 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, but I don't think the fact that it wasn't is an accident. In the vein of ACAB, it is a statement that is designed to divide.


[23-Jul-20 01:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think it was designed to divide. I think divisions *happened* but I don't think the phrase was chosen maliciously. It's a positive where ACAB is a negative.


[23-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Frosku#5874
This is frightening.


[23-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It shouldn't be illegal to be a dick but I do think employers should have the right to fire you for it.


[23-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Frosku#5874
61% of Democrats want to neuter the first amendment -- scary thought from the party that used to be its most ardent defender.


[23-Jul-20 01:56 PM] Frosku#5874
I find this incredibly disturbing too.

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[23-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
For me, speech that should be *legally* banned would be inciting violence, slander/libel, that sort of thing.

So just saying "I don't like x-race" is awful and we should condemn it, but shouldn't be illegal

While saying "All x-race should *die*" could be seen as inciting violence.


[23-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 01:58 PM] Frosku#5874
I hugely oppose bans on flag burning, flag burning is a legitimate protest. It's offensive but it shouldn't be illegal.


[23-Jul-20 01:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's also the most harmless kind of destructive protest. The protester literally buys and destroys their own property to make a statement.


[23-Jul-20 01:59 PM] Frosku#5874
This just makes me think I live amongst imbeciles 😂

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[23-Jul-20 02:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now again, I do want to be clear that my supporting the legal freedom to do these things doesn't mean I think you should face zero consequences.

There's a social cost to being racist and usually a professional one too. And I think that's fine. I just don't think you should go to jail or get fined for it.


[23-Jul-20 02:02 PM] Frosku#5874
I largely agree with that, though I think we've lost all sense of proportionality with our social responses.


[23-Jul-20 02:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Literally ruining someone's life because they said something (often out of ignorance rather than malice) is not good societal behavior.


[23-Jul-20 02:03 PM] Frosku#5874
We've, as a society, forgotten that people have a right to repent and to grow as people.


[23-Jul-20 02:03 PM] Frosku#5874
We love a comeback story / redemption arc, we just don't want to enable them.


[23-Jul-20 02:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure. I think a good-faith attempt to educate is better than writing them off as irredeemable. But at the same time, if they're unwilling to change I also don't think it sends the right message to keep openly bigoted people in prestigious positions. It's basically saying "We think this is acceptable *enough* to keep around."


[23-Jul-20 02:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Everyone loves the ex-white supremacist or ex-Islamist who becomes a liberal, but we don't have a society that creates an environment where people can do that.


[23-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Frosku#5874
I think in today's society it's easier to come back from armed robbery than wrongthink.


[23-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do agree we shouldn't do digging up crap from a decade ago on people. That's dumb as hell.

Like, be mad at stuff they're doing *now,* not stuff that probably doesn't represent their current views.


[23-Jul-20 02:06 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, and also be mad with an intent to make them better themselves, not destroy their lives.


[23-Jul-20 02:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure. I can agree with that, but I also think part of that bettering can be people going, "Look. As long as you're like this, I'm not going to consume your content."

Not doxing, not harassing, just making the decision to not actively support someone while they hold those views.


[23-Jul-20 02:07 PM] Frosku#5874
And differentiate actual hateful beliefs from harmless beliefs that offend people, like "all lives matter" or "there are biological differences between women and men"


[23-Jul-20 02:08 PM] Frosku#5874
It is perfectly reasonable to both support trans peoples' right to live their life as they see fit, and to assert that we are not biologically the same.


[23-Jul-20 02:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think anyone's gotten in trouble for that one alone. It's usually followed up by, "Therefore we should *treat* men and women differently" or "therefore trans people are illegitimate"


[23-Jul-20 02:08 PM] Frosku#5874
JK Rowling?


[23-Jul-20 02:09 PM] Frosku#5874
James Damore? (who wasn't even talking about trans people)


[23-Jul-20 02:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd need to look at Rowling's wording specifically. Hang on.


[23-Jul-20 02:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I wasn't a Harry Potter fan to begin with, so this wasn't one I got really involved in.


[23-Jul-20 02:10 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not a JK Rowling fan by any means, until she found herself at the business end of the woke mob she was a part of it.


[23-Jul-20 02:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, I'm just contextualizing. I had nothing to cancel or boycott since I already wasn't her audience


[23-Jul-20 02:10 PM] Opponent#3498
hillariously ironic, that. Although it seems a significant portion of the woke mob only read one book (series) in their lives and that's HP :D So no suprise there.


[23-Jul-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
at least, this is the only one that _stuck_.


[23-Jul-20 02:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Essentially Rowling agreed that it's not unreasonable for lesbians to refuse to date people with penises.


[23-Jul-20 02:11 PM] Frosku#5874
That's what she got cancelled for.


[23-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Was that it, though? Because I feel like most people agree that's fine.


[23-Jul-20 02:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, that's what triggered her cancellation, she agreed with some feminist that lesbians shouldn't be called bigots for refusing to date people who have penises, which I think is a reasonable statement. If you don't like cock, you don't like cock.


[23-Jul-20 02:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Did she call transwomen men or otherwise deny the legitimacy of trans identities?


[23-Jul-20 02:13 PM] Frosku#5874
No, I think the closest she got was opposing the term "people who menstruate" for biological women, but that was after she got cancelled.


[23-Jul-20 02:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, that's fair? Trans *men* do menstruate.


[23-Jul-20 02:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
She shouldn't get full-on cancelled but I'm saying that phrasing isn't totally absurd.


[23-Jul-20 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.glamour.com/story/a-complete-breakdown-of-the-jk-rowling-transgender-comments-controversy

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[23-Jul-20 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> That initial tweet garnered a lot of backlash, but Rowling did not relent and wrote about her views in more detail. “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth,” she tweeted. “The idea that women like me, who’ve been empathetic to trans people for decades, feeling kinship because they’re vulnerable in the same way as women—i.e., to male violence—‘hate’ trans people because they think sex is real and has lived consequences—is a nonsense."
> 
> She continued, “I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.”


[23-Jul-20 02:16 PM] Frosku#5874
> If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth.
I just don't think this is an unreasonable statement. There are different realities for biological women than there are for trans women.


[23-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think "biological women" is a good term, btw. I'm not using that as a political statement, I just haven't found something I prefer.


[23-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I feel like in the "people who menstruate" post she probably thought this was a statement meant to separate cis women from trans women, but it's actually the opposite; it's a phrasing that more broadly includes trans *men.* (i.e. biologically XX but identify as men)

again, not saying she should be mobbed but the tweet comes off as a bit needless


[23-Jul-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
later she said:
> “This isn’t an easy piece to write, for reasons that will shortly become clear, but I know it’s time to explain myself on an issue surrounded by toxicity. I write this without any desire to add to that toxicity,” she wrote. “For people who don’t know: last December I tweeted my support for Maya Forstater, a tax specialist who’d lost her job for what were deemed ‘transphobic’ tweets. She took her case to an employment tribunal, asking the judge to rule on whether a philosophical belief that sex is determined by biology is protected in law. Judge Tayler ruled that it wasn’t.”


[23-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I think it probably comes from her feeling as a woman of her lived reality being erased by the more 'broad' usage of the term 'women'.


[23-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think that there's an easy answer.


[23-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think it's erased. There are just... different experiences for different kinds of women, and that's always been true in other respects as well.


[23-Jul-20 02:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sex *is* determined by biology, though, I'll say it. Gender isn't though.


[23-Jul-20 02:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, actually


[23-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think gender identity also has a biological basis. Like, I don't think trans people choose to be trans. There's some physiological predisposition to it, just as there is with sexuality, I think.


[23-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah, here


[23-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532313/

> *Individuals born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia or androgen insensitivity syndrome are usually brought up and socialized as girls, even though they often cross-dress and have an innate sense of belonging to the opposite sex. These changes are more evident around and during puberty. This is one of the well-established biological links.*

I think biology at least is a factor.

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[23-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I just generally don't think her position is in bad faith (except possibly towards men)


[23-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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[23-Jul-20 02:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm reading it.

She's expressing issue with trans teens transitioning, and I disagree there.

While I don't think they should get full-on *surgery* until they're of age, I see nothing wrong with validating their identity by letting them dress how they like and go by the names/pronouns they prefer. This type of "social" transitioning is important to them, and has no long-term repercussions if it turns out they're not trans after all. Even hormones' effects are temporary if they end up getting off them.


[23-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm mixed on it, I'm not necessarily against teens transitioning, but I do think the data about teens who "grow out of" dysphoria is important to the discussion.


[23-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
One thing I do think


[23-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Teenagers tend to be very emotional and confused about everything around identity, I'm not honestly sure what the answer is.


[23-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think that admitting to ourselves that we don't have enough data to fully comprehend the issue is a bad start.


[23-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Is that we'd probably have less "false positives" of people thinking they're trans if we made feminine boys and masculine girls more normalized. Sometimes a boy who's openly "girly" and likes traditionally feminine things is still very much a boy and sees himself as nothing else. So I think working to remove the stigma of transgressing gender roles would actually help everyone - cis and trans alike.


[23-Jul-20 02:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I do agree there.


[23-Jul-20 02:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Although I guess as guys who like ponies, we're likely to agree there. :P


[23-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. And I do think it's gotten better, for sure.

I think young people still face gender expectations but they feel a little less rigid than they were when I was a kid in the 90s.


[23-Jul-20 02:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Also differs by culture and class


[23-Jul-20 02:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, absolutely.


[23-Jul-20 02:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Religion plays a major factor too, the Bible does prescribe strict gender roles as does the Quran.


[23-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah.

I grew up in a religious household but it was a fairly liberal take on religion since my parents had two *different* religions. Dad was Muslim, Mom was Christian. I did go through a pretty intense religious stage when I was younger, though. Not because of my parents but - through circumstances - I ended up regularly going to a friend's church which was *super* traditional hellfire-and-brimstone preaching, and as a kid I found that very persuasive.

So for a while, I felt really ashamed of what I was. Was constantly afraid of hell. It wasn't a good place at all.


[23-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Frosku#5874
I grew up in a very orthodox Jewish household


[23-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Frosku#5874
We don't really have hellfire and brimstone -- God in Judaism is portrayed more as eternally disappointed in his creation rather than vengeful.


[23-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Frosku#5874
But we do have parents who are very strict in terms of doctrine.


[23-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. I feel like in Christianity, God and Jesus are basically a cosmic good-cop bad-cop routine.


[23-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Electricity on saturdays was banned, for example.


[23-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Are u allowed to eat pork?


[23-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Frosku#5874
My parents wouldnt allow it, no


[23-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a Muslim, my dad isn't supposed to, but he does sometimes.


[23-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nowadays I'm... vaguely theistic maybe, but not religious. I like to think maybe there's something out there but they don't really match any written religious books.


[23-Jul-20 02:51 PM] Frosku#5874
My mom threw a fit when my sister bought a bacon sandwich.


[23-Jul-20 02:52 PM] Frosku#5874
I believe in God, but I'm not particularly religious.


[23-Jul-20 02:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If there's a god, I just hope they're nicer than the guy I grew up hearing about.


[23-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Frosku#5874
I like to hope so


[23-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Frosku#5874
> Yeah. I feel like in Christianity, God and Jesus are basically a cosmic good-cop bad-cop routine.

This is actually one of the best descriptions I've heard for a concept I've seen too.


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[23-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Good, cut it by 10% and give me a tax cut.


[23-Jul-20 03:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Education isn't even an enumerated power, the entire federal department is unconstitutional.


[23-Jul-20 03:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Get the fuck outta here bitch

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[23-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Frosku#5874
*side eye at the people who think "I didn't know the law" should be an acceptable defense for police when it isn't for the rest of us...*


[23-Jul-20 03:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Democrat hypocrisy on unions is quite something.

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[23-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Frosku#5874
As is Republican hypocrisy on unions, but far less intense.


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[23-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Apparently the new slogan should be 40%oCAB.


[23-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Crow#5457
the police are a part of the government that're given special privileges above and beyond what most other government employees receive, they don't really have a need for unions to have collective bargaining power


[23-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Frosku#5874
That's true of all public sector employees, they have privileges that the rest of the labor force doesn't via govt monopoly.


[23-Jul-20 03:27 PM] Frosku#5874
Collective bargaining is required in a free market to counter-balance the natural race to the bottom which results from competition.


[23-Jul-20 03:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police have a rival company?


[23-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Frosku#5874
No... that was my point.


[23-Jul-20 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry, i misread that


[23-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
except that other public sector employees don't have a role which naturally tends towards having strong bargaining power, the police are one of the most powerful government institutions even without unions, they have no need to be unionized


[23-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think any public sector employees should be unionized


[23-Jul-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think usps employees should be unionized


[23-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Frosku#5874
By nature of being a monopoly and funded from what is essentially a money tree, all employees in the public sector have strong bargaining power.


[23-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Frosku#5874
No other entity can demand that 100% of the working population pay whatever rate it wants for a service they might not even want to buy.


[23-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Same for firefighters and military


[23-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Frosku#5874
And teachers


[23-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Especially true for the military tbh, and just wait until the Dems get their way and we have socialist healthcare, and the doctors are a monopoly.


[23-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Soldiers and doctors tend to be pretty fucking popular which gives them a ridiculous amount of power to make demands.


[23-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
there's no hypocrisy for democrats to not want police unions while also wanting unions for private companies because they're two completely different situations


[23-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Frosku#5874
There's hypocrisy in saying that teachers should have unions but police shouldn't when both operate in the public sector.


[23-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
teachers don't have any special privileges that give them natural bargaining power


[23-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Frosku#5874
They're public sector employees, that alone is a special privilege.


[23-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not even against police unions in and of themselves. If they're unionizing for fairer pay and working conditions, fine. I'm right there with you, brother. I'm just against stuff like like qualified immunity.


[23-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Crow#5457
schools in the US behave more like private companies than publicly run institutions


[23-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Frosku#5874
There is no downward pressure on their wages except for the taxpayer, who by and large, wants teachers to be well-paid.


[23-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Isn't fairer dismissal procedures a better working condition though?


[23-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Frosku#5874
The context here is mostly the usage of neutral arbitrators to decide dismissals to avoid politically convenient dismissals btw.


[23-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, qualified immunity isn't dismissal. It just protects cops from civil suits for things they did while on the job unless it can be reasonably proven they knowingly broke the law, which is often impossible.


[23-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, qualified immunity should go


[23-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/a-punishing-decade-for-school-funding

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A Punishing Decade for School Funding
Public investment in K-12 schools — crucial for communities to thrive and the U.S. economy to offer broad opportunity — has declined dramatically in a number of states over the last decade.
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[23-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Cops ought to be held to a pretty high standard when it comes to knowing the law.


[23-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Frosku#5874
You or I don't get to plead "I didn't know it was illegal". Ignorance is not a defense.


[23-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.aft.org/column/high-cost-defunding-public-education

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The high cost of defunding public education
Time magazine’s back-to-school cover story is far from a feel-good puff piece. Alongside the image of a woman seated in a classroom is the headline: “I have a master’s degree, 16 years of experience, work two extra jobs and donate blood plasma to pay the bills. I’m a teacher i...


[23-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
this is all while teacher's unions already exist in the US


[23-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, the piece is written by a teacher's union :P


[23-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
they're getting defunded despite being unionized


[23-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Frosku#5874
IIRC the average income for a teacher is about $62k, that differs by region but sits well above the American median income despite them getting very long holidays and short working hours.


[23-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/jauxuvrp2s451.jpg

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[23-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I'm in a teacher's union, though mainly just as insurance so I have some help in case I ever *am* wrongly terminated or accused or anything. Our union has also negotiated to get us pay-raises, which I appreciate.


[23-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Frosku#5874
We need a taxpayer's union


[23-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Frosku#5874
To collectively bargain with the government on tax rates, and then refuse to pay them if we can't reach agreement.


[23-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Unfortunately the closest thing is the Republican party


[23-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
you mean... you want voters to be able to vote?


[23-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
what a wild concept


[23-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Crow#5457
only one party is attempting to restrict that right btw


[23-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Crow#5457
and it isn't the democratic party


[23-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean honestly I'd be in favor of taking the vote away from people who don't pay federal taxes. Our founding cry was "no taxation without representation" and yet it seems representation without taxation is fine.


[23-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Frosku#5874
The state only works if everyone is a stakeholder in it.


[23-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Also we should apply the liberal rule on abortion (if you can't have one, you don't get to have an opinion) to higher/corporate tax rates. If you don't pay them, you're not allowed an opinion.


[23-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I jest, of course, but it is quite funny the double standards that get applied.


[23-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Crow#5457
that first part's never how society has worked at any period in its history, and I don't think society can ever work that way because otherwise everything would just deconstruct into a bunch of tiny competing tribes


[23-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's almost impossible not to pay *some* taxes if you live here.

If you work, you pay income taxes. If you're unemployed, to keeping getting benefits you have to be looking for work, which - upon starting - will be taxed.


[23-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
also, there's no way to apply that to sales tax sanely


[23-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Crow#5457
and income taxes yeah


[23-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Sales tax isn't federal


[23-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention there's federal benefits to living in the US, even if you don't pay taxes (roads, schools, etc)


[23-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Frosku#5874
And actually you're right that the Democratic party isn't trying to *restrict* voting rights, but they are in favor of diluting the value of your vote through giving tens of millions of people citizenship for... committing a crime, and turning a blind eye to fraudulent voting. I give both parties a B- for their commitment to democracy.


[23-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Frosku#5874
They're for it when it suits them.


[23-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
that's pretty much entirely wrong


[23-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Crow#5457
there's not tens of millions of undocumented immigrants to give voting rights


[23-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Frosku#5874
It's pretty much entirely right. If I tricked my way into the staff channel, I doubt any of you would be clamoring to offer me a pathway to adminship or a vote on the rules changes.


[23-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Frosku#5874
You'd remove my role and quite possibly ban me from the server.


[23-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Crow#5457
the mainstream democratic party doesn't want to give them all citizenship either


[23-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Frosku#5874
DREAM Act is pretty mainstream


[23-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Crow#5457
what does that have to do with voting? DACA doesn't allow for voting


[23-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Crow#5457
the dream act doesn't either


[23-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Crow#5457
and there's no way to prove that democrats want to turn a blind eye to fraudulent voting


[23-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Frosku#5874
DREAM Act offers a path to citizenship, citizenship allows voting


[23-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But let's say you weren't caught immediately

You tricked your way in and - hey - while you were there ended up doing a good job as an admin. You played the part well and - for all intents and purposes - *were* staff, if not officially. At some point, if you manage to do it long enough without anyone noticing or taking it away from you, you'd have basically earned your keep as a leader around here.


[23-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd still expect to be removed to discourage others from doing the same.


[23-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Crow#5457
because you can't prove something that doesn't exist, that's the absence of evidence fallacy


[23-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Crow#5457
and anyway, the main problem going on is that legitimate refugees are being treated as illegal immigrants because they "committed a crime" by crossing the border, even though it isn't a crime to cross the border to seek asylum


[23-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Crow#5457
and I haven't heard a single politician claim they support the idea of giving the people currently here illegally outright citizenship with no strings attached


[23-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Frosku#5874
The other issue there though is that people cross the border to make petty asylum claims in the hope of disappearing off the radar before they're denied.


[23-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Crow#5457
yes, there's bad actors everywhere, it's seemingly a human trait to "abuse the system", but that doesn't justify locking out the thousands of legitimate claims


[23-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Frosku#5874
But it does justify making the system harder to abuse.


[23-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Again it's like, Derpi has an API, but you have rate limits to prevent people abusing the API


[23-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
but the system isn't being made harder to abuse, it's being made harder to use at all


[23-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
to the point it's basically been shut down


[23-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And more pressingly, it doesn't justify tossing migrants and their *children* into prison camps. We ought to empty every one of those facilities, there is no reason for us to be operating internment camps in this country.


[23-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Frosku#5874
What's the alternative which is equally adequate for stopping people from falling off the radar, at the same or lower cost?


[23-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
rate limiting the API doesn't make the API harder to use


[23-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Frosku#5874
It does, I have to respect the rate limit.


[23-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't make the API itself harder to use


[23-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Frosku#5874
It means I have to rate limit my client application, which makes the API more tedious to use.


[23-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think just turning them around and sending them on their way - copping the risk that yes, some of them will try to sneak back in - is still better than going full evil-empire and throwing children in cages.


[23-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Crow#5457
tedious isn't harder


[23-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not comfortable with the detention camps, to be honest. I want a better solution, but I also want a serious disincentive for illegal immigration.


[23-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Frosku#5874
And even moreso, I want a serious disincentive for people trafficking and child prostitution.


[23-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Crow#5457
but anyway, one method of controlling movement is to provide specific locations for people to live (like apartments) for people claiming refugee status that they aren't allowed to venture too far from


[23-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those things are sadly related. Children have gone missing from the camps and are just unaccounted for.


[23-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I admit I'd be much more comfortable with locked down 'towns' of apartment blocks than I am with what are effectively prison cells.


[23-Jul-20 04:14 PM] Frosku#5874
But I'd also be all for imposing sanctions on Mexico for refusing to control the border situation on their side.


[23-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
mexico would have to be a safe place to stay for refugees for that to happen


[23-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
the same cartels that terrorize the rest of central america have "jurisdiction" in mexico as well


[23-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Safe is relative


[23-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, a lot of them have a lot of power in the US too.


[23-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
safe is always relative when context is disregarded


[23-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Crow#5457
they don't have much power to abduct or kill people in the US


[23-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Safe is just always relative


[23-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean, they kill quite a few people in the US, but no, we do have more effective law enforcement.


[23-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Crow#5457
within context (cartels killing people), the US is way safer than mexico has ever been


[23-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Frosku#5874
Partly because we deport violent criminals, though.


[23-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't have anything to do with the topic of letting refugees travelling through mexico apply for asylum in the US


[23-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Which some cities deliberately obstruct (usually ones with a lot of violent crime).


[23-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
source?


[23-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Crow#5457
because I haven't heard anything about cities obstructing the deportation of violent criminals


[23-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Crow#5457
http://ftp.iza.org/dp12413.pdf


[23-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Frosku#5874
That's what sanctuary cities do. They refuse to cooperate with the feds in cases involving illegal migrants.


[23-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Crow#5457
also, deportations don't actually reduce crime


[23-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Is this the paper that conflates immigration with illegal immigration and uses stats about legal migrants who are largely skilled to bury the stats about illegal migrants? Just asking before I read it.


[23-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
sanctuary cities don't stop policing undocumented immigrants, they just refuse to cooperate with federal attempts to mass deport undocumented immigrants


[23-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh, no, this is the one that lumps all crime together and doesn't separate violent crime. Knew I'd seen this before.


[23-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Crow#5457
that's a strawman btw, saying that sanctuary cities don't police undocumented immigrants because they refuse to cooperate with federal attempts to deport everyone


[23-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crimes-illegal-immigrants-widespread-across-us-sanctuaries-shouldnt

"Non-citizens constitute only about 7 percent of the U.S. population. Yet the latest data from the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics reveals that non-citizens accounted for nearly two-thirds (64 percent) of all federal arrests in 2018. Just two decades earlier, only 37 percent of all federal arrests were non-citizens.

These arrests aren’t just for immigration crimes. Non-citizens accounted for 24 percent of all federal drug arrests, 25 percent of all federal property arrests, and 28 percent of all federal fraud arrests."

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Crimes by Illegal Immigrants Widespread Across U.S.—Sanctuaries Sho...
The decision by a California appeals court Friday overturning the conviction of an illegal immigrant who shot and killed Kate Steinle in San Francisco in 2015 once again put the national spotlight on the serious problem of crimes committed by people in the U.S. illegally.
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[23-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Frosku#5874
"A recent report from the Texas Department of Public Safety revealed that 297,000 non-citizens had been “booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and July 31, 2019.” So these are non-citizens who allegedly committed local crimes, not immigration violations.

The report noted that a little more than two-thirds (202,000) of those booked in Texas jails were later confirmed as illegal immigrants by the federal government."


[23-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Frosku#5874
"These statistics reveal the very real danger created by sanctuary policies. **In nine self-declared sanctuary states and numerous sanctuary cities and counties, officials refuse to hand over criminals who are known to be in this country illegally after they have served their state or local sentences**."


[23-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
heritage is probably one of the most biased sources you can link in regards to immigration, and it's already clear how misleading they're being with their claims


[23-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Data is data


[23-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
yes, obviously there would be a high rate of federal arrests of illegal immigrants


[23-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
because being in the country illegally is a federal crime


[23-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Frosku#5874
It goes into the fact that it isn't just immigration offenses.


[23-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
and it's also what the current federal government is obsessed with


[23-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
basically all of its resources have been going into deporting illegal immigrants


[23-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Crow#5457
so the rate of federal arrests would go way up


[23-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
second, being a drug arrest doesn't mean that the arrested person was actually doing or selling drugs


[23-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Frosku#5874
It makes it more likely (also legalize drugs)


[23-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Crow#5457
and what does "federal property arrest" mean? is that where they snatch undocumented immigrants going to or leaving from hearings to stay in the country? there's literally cases of judges saying "Do not deport this person." and federal goons going "lol stop us" and deporting them anyway


[23-Jul-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
and from what it sounds like, the federal fraud arrests are for undocumented immigrants using false SSNs to actually participate in society, which are the immigrants which actually hurt the US to deport


[23-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
and I don't see how non-citizens being booked in jails is relevant to violent crime, it's like saying all people arrested are violent criminals


[23-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, I'm not seeing why cities should be obligated to hand over undocumented immigrants who committed nonviolent crimes, if the feds want to deport them so badly, they can do it themselves


[23-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
No, but unless we assume vastly less of those people who are arrested are found guilty


[23-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
We can infer from them being arrested at higher rates that they probably committed crimes at higher rates


[23-Jul-20 04:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I do welcome those stats if you have them though


[23-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Crow#5457
I just realized, this thing isn't even differentiating between undocumented immigrants and noncitizen residents, and there's no sources for any of the presented data on this page


[23-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Crow#5457
oh there's one https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm

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TxDPS - Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data
The State of Texas has averaged over 71,000 total criminal  arrests per month in local Texas jails since January 2012.


[23-Jul-20 05:11 PM] Frosku#5874
> DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 4,000 convictions including 75 homicide convictions; 576 assault convictions; 341 burglary convictions; 836 drug convictions; 19 kidnapping convictions; 196 theft convictions; 325 obstructing police convictions; 227 robbery convictions; 440 sexual assault convictions; 205 sexual offense convictions; and 79 weapon convictions.

4000 crimes committed by people who shouldn't have been in the country.


[23-Jul-20 05:13 PM] Frosku#5874
> Over the course of their entire Texas criminal careers, these 219,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 533,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 1,161 homicide charges; 60,768 assault charges; 16,506 burglary charges; 67,842 drug charges; 850 kidnapping charges; 31,864 theft charges; 46,147 obstructing police charges; 3,905 robbery charges; 6,507 sexual assault charges; 7,799 sexual offense charges; and 7,618 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 240,000 convictions including 544 homicide convictions; 25,804 assault convictions; 8,478 burglary convictions; 34,447 drug convictions; 325 kidnapping convictions; 14,804 theft convictions; 22,744 obstructing police convictions; 2,151 robbery convictions; 3,379 sexual assault convictions; 4,109 sexual offense convictions; and 3,345 weapon convictions.

240,000 crimes committed by people who shouldn't have been in the country. In one state. In 10 years.


[23-Jul-20 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of these convictions seem to be for small and perhaps inevitable stuff given their social status


[23-Jul-20 05:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean 1100 homicides and 14000 sexual offenses aren't small.


[23-Jul-20 05:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
4000 sexual offense convictions, not 14000


[23-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Frosku#5874
7000, sorry


[23-Jul-20 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
7000 *charges*


[23-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Adding sexual assaults to sexual offenses


[23-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Frosku#5874
3,379 sexual assault convictions; 4,109 sexual offense convictions


[23-Jul-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also not to mention how the presence of police and especially ICE makes local communities less safe or orderly


[23-Jul-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And also leads to these numbers, arguably


[23-Jul-20 05:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its a police fault that people commit crimes?


[23-Jul-20 05:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cato.org/blog/60-deported-criminal-aliens-committed-only-victimless-crimes-few-violent-crimes

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60% of Deported “Criminal Aliens” Committed Only Victimless Crimes
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[23-Jul-20 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Smug Trixie not necessarily police, but police profiling and all that comes with the government’s policy of “war on crime”


[23-Jul-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also why cities dont cooperate when ICE tries to do a mass deportation raid


[23-Jul-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because ICE in their infinite wisdom just grabs people randomly who "resemble" illegal immigrants


[23-Jul-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there were legal citizens who were just scooped up by ICE and deported to a random ass location


[23-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So ICE is bad cause they deport illegals for minor crimes and illegals should live in US,right?


[23-Jul-20 05:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that illegals should live in the US, but that their unseen contribution to the US economy is quite substantial


[23-Jul-20 05:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I believe they should be legalized, as it'd make them regular taxpayers and give them legal resolve for organization seeming as they're all proletarians


[23-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Deport them all


[23-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Streamline residency visas, but make citizenship a much higher barrier to entry.


[23-Jul-20 05:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why?


[23-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Because I don't want people voting who haven't got American civic values, basically.


[23-Jul-20 05:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
American civic values such as?


[23-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
And those values take serious time and effort to onboard in adults.


[23-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean I think anyone who wants citizenship should have a good understanding of English, the Constitution, their state Constitution, the history of the country, the writings of the founders.


[23-Jul-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most legal voters dont have any of that


[23-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
No violent criminal past.


[23-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I know. That's why Democrats win elections. The school system has failed them.


[23-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u gotta know those things if u wanna get US citizenship Frosku


[23-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Not to any real level evidently, because we have enough stupid fucks voting.


[23-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Frosku#5874
24% of American voters think hate speech is illegal.


[23-Jul-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yeah donald trump and the republican senate are a real democrat bunch aren;t they


[23-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Frosku#5874
40% can't recite a single amendment to the constitution.


[23-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't have a stat for this but I dread to think how many could list the enumerated powers of the federal government.


[23-Jul-20 05:45 PM] Frosku#5874
And therefore, understand the 10th Amendment.


[23-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Frosku do you want them to write like exam like in UK?


[23-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Something like that.


[23-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think we should be making any new voters who don't understand our government.


[23-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Name a Pope in sussex


[23-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Name an actor of 5th doctor


[23-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Frosku#5874
No like


[23-Jul-20 05:47 PM] Frosku#5874
"Which of these is an enumerated power of the federal government?" with yes/no questions.


[23-Jul-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Recite the entire german constitution from memory starting now!


[23-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Frosku#5874
"Write five hundred words about the second amendment and why it's necessary for a free and just society."


[23-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"What do you think about X?" Sure way to discard wrongthinkers.


[23-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Fail anyone who mentions deer hunting.


[23-Jul-20 05:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people think the first and second amendments are the only amendments


[23-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Crow#5457
reciting amendments doesn't seem relevant, you just need to know what they mean


[23-Jul-20 05:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is the original point of the second amendment?


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Frosku#5874
There are certainly plenty who couldn't tell you about the 4th or 10th @prism stryder(intexda).


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
also that question is incredibly loaded


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Arm the us pop if the brits come back


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Frosku#5874
@Эᴚ|∫ To arm the people against the possibility of a tyrannical government foreign or domestic.


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
"Write five hundred words about the second amendment." is way more relevant


[23-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Frosku *buzzer* Wrong!


[23-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Not wrong.


[23-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
"Which of these is an enumerated power of the federal government?" is a multiple choice question, not a yes/no question


[23-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow It's a yes/no for each listed power


[23-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Frosku in current climate it would sound like you would join civil war rebel


[23-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Put things in there like "To provide healthcare for every American."


[23-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Rather make multiselect quiz than written exams, delegate English knowledge check to other authorities


[23-Jul-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
also, people tend to conveniently leave out the part of the second amendment about "well regulated militias", which is a mistake


[23-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Frosku#5874
"A well educated workforce, being necessary to the success of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."


[23-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Crow#5457
random people don't need guns, well-trained people who have to take both practical and theoretical tests on top of mental evaluations are fine to own guns


[23-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Do you read this to say that people who don't work should not be allowed to own books or read?


[23-Jul-20 05:54 PM] Crow#5457
... books don't kill people


[23-Jul-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
4: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


[23-Jul-20 05:55 PM] Frosku#5874
The pen is mightier than the sword. A book is a means for distributing ideas, millions have died for someone else's idea.


[23-Jul-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police break the 4th amendment constantly with civil forfeiture


[23-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Civil forfeiture is unconstitutional, at least at the federal level. It depends how strictly integration is applied.


[23-Jul-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is rather ironic because Marx described one tenet of communism as being "he who does not work shall not eat" -- in the US, meanwhile, the top rich have a wide array of food choices to select from whereas the poor people work exhausting schedules with little to eat besides hot pockets


[23-Jul-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry for bringing this up but i feel like food and water and healthcare should be a right


[23-Jul-20 05:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't, but only because I have a very narrow view of what can be a right.


[23-Jul-20 05:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not a privilege


[23-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Frosku#5874
I do think everyone should have access to those things, along with shelter. I just prefer a very specific definition of rights limited to negative rights.


[23-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it should be funded the same way education is.

Have a private option for those willing to pay for it, sure. But fund a public option for those who cannot.


[23-Jul-20 05:58 PM] Frosku#5874
I think education should be privatized.


[23-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Crow#5457
that would limit who can get an education


[23-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Crow#5457
which is very detrimental to the health of a country


[23-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Frosku#5874
It *shouldn't*, especially in the information age.


[23-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No it should not be


[23-Jul-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because homeless people have full access to private schools and internet


[23-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If anything, we need stricter governmental control over subjects taught


[23-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd privatize almost everything so...


[23-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Frosku#5874
No, we really don't. Why do you want Trump to decide what your children can learn?


[23-Jul-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump wants to privatize schools actually


[23-Jul-20 06:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
At least that would be providing something of objective value vs rando religious/shitty ideology secular schools


[23-Jul-20 06:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Giving control to the government means giving control to Trump and the Republican party. I'm a hard no on that.


[23-Jul-20 06:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Reminder that homeschooled kids have the best educational outcomes.


[23-Jul-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is a lot of private schools teach the things trump was raised on


[23-Jul-20 06:02 PM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) So start a competing school, I'll do it with you.


[23-Jul-20 06:02 PM] Crow#5457
privatization always leads to scarcity, there's not a single case of a privatized industry leading to more people getting access to something because it was privatized (except for private prisons, that just led to less scarcity of prisoners and incentivizes imprisoning as many people as possible)


[23-Jul-20 06:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Privatization doesn't lead to scarcity, scarcity exists and privatization leads to better allocation of resources.


[23-Jul-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so schools should be factionalized based on competition so no lessons are universal?


[23-Jul-20 06:03 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't believe the vast majority of parents would send their kids to schools that don't teach useful skills.


[23-Jul-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
millions of people weren't able to get healthcare before obamacare, suddenly more people had access to healthcare when there was government "interference"


[23-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Kindof, except the ones who now pay for insurance that they can't use because their deductibles are too high.


[23-Jul-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my dad would be dead right now if it weren't for public healthcare


[23-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Frosku#5874
And the self-employed small businesspeople who lost insurance because their premiums quadrupled.


[23-Jul-20 06:04 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, there needs to be some baseline standard for education, tbh privatizing all schooling would lead to a lot more education scams


[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump U was also a private school


[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Frosku#5874
The public school system *is* one big education scam, it's just a universal education scam.

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[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump U was a real estate course


[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

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Trump University (also known as the Trump Wealth Institute and Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC) was an American company that ran a real estate training program from 2005 until 2010. It was owned and operated by The Trump Organization. A separate organization, Trump Institute...


[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that counts as a privatized education


[23-Jul-20 06:05 PM] Frosku#5874
It was like a 3 day retreat for real estate investors.


[23-Jul-20 06:06 PM] Frosku#5874
It also failed horrifically and had to pay out $25 million in damages


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Frosku#5874
Unlike failing public schools which just keep failing forever. That seems like an argument *for* privatization.


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Crow#5457
I can't see any way to run a privatized schooling system without a colossal amount of regulations to ensure a baseline level of competency, and it would lead to many people not even sending their children to be educated at all


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
American schools need a massive funding upgrade. America should adopt the German or Canadian model of public healthcare. ICE is full of sociopaths and needs to be reformed by fireing everyone there. Get rid of the camps from border patrol by giveing the bp more funding to humanily house that many people.


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then increase fundign to public schools and give them enough to have succesful lessons


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Frosku#5874
As homeschooled children have the best outcomes, I'd be OK with more parents homeschooling.


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they keep failing because states keep cutting funding so they can try and racket it off to privatization


[23-Jul-20 06:07 PM] Frosku#5874
Throwing more money at the problem hasn't worked. This is a myth that keeps getting perpetuated.


[23-Jul-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
http://www.nea.org/home/29420.htm


[23-Jul-20 06:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's because there's not enough regulation to ensure that the money is used to benefit the students, there needs to be more regulation of how the money is used


[23-Jul-20 06:10 PM] Frosku#5874
We've tried and tried again sloshing failing schools with more funds


[23-Jul-20 06:10 PM] Frosku#5874
And they keep failing, so we slosh them with even more funds.


[23-Jul-20 06:10 PM] Frosku#5874
We're like 3rd or 4th in the world for education spending per student. The issue isn't a lack of money.


[23-Jul-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
uhh, I literally just linked a source that showed that funding for public schools have stagnated


[23-Jul-20 06:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Privatized education is a scam, case in point being Chile for example
https://www.coha.org/the-failings-of-chile’s-education-system-institutionalized-inequality-and-a-preference-for-the-affluent/

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While the structure of Chile’s elementary and secondary education has changed considerably since the demise of the Pinochet dictatorship, the Chilean system is currently undergoing intense scrutiny due to the recent mass student protests against President Bachelet’s proposed 2...


[23-Jul-20 06:11 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow Irrelevant, we spend 3rd most in the world, when we perform at 3rd highest we'll talk about spending 2nd most.


[23-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
how the hell is that irrelevant? you're claiming we're "sloshing" public schools with tons of money, but the data shows the amount of money going to public schools has decreased substantially?


[23-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Frosku#5874
If we spend the 3rd most in the world


[23-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
the main issue in the US is lack of accountability, privatization would lead to even less accountability


[23-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Frosku#5874
And we perform at 40th best, our first question shouldn't be about spending more money


[23-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Frosku#5874
It should be "why are 37 countries spending less than us and doing better?"


[23-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
it certainly isn't by privatizing the school system


[23-Jul-20 06:13 PM] Crow#5457
it's because they have stronger regulations over how the money is used


[23-Jul-20 06:14 PM] Frosku#5874
So first let's fix the inefficiency and get to 3rd. Then we can talk about more money.


[23-Jul-20 06:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because they focus on maintaining their public schools in an efficient manner thAT PREPARes them to best teach their students


[23-Jul-20 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
the ineffciency is caused by lack of regulation and oversight


[23-Jul-20 06:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Is it? Do you have data that shows our schools are less regulated than Andorras?


[23-Jul-20 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://calmatters.org/education/2019/11/california-school-funding-oversight-audit-teachers-lcff/

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As California spends billions on high-needs students, calls grow fo...
Seven years into California's school funding overhaul, the state can't tell whether billions are going to the high-need students they're supposed to help.
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[23-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Does this directly compare the efficiency of our spending with a country that spends less than us and achieves better outcomes?


[23-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Perhaps the issue is the way we approach education, which has moved away from proven methods and into ideology.


[23-Jul-20 06:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Perhaps if we had competition we could work out which methods produce the best outcomes.


[23-Jul-20 06:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The issue is not spending IMO; the issue is good organization, public oversight, and methods of implementing the spending, none of which are likely in a privatized school system where institutions are in an incestuous relationship with finance capital


[23-Jul-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Perhaps the issue is the way we approach education, which has moved away from proven methods and into ideology.
@Frosku  ideology backs proven methods, actually -- anyone who has for example read Paulo Freire can attest to that


[23-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Frosku#5874
So show the data which suggests we have worse public oversight than Lithuania, Slavakia, Estonia etc.


[23-Jul-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If your school ideology is egalitarian, and also tolerant and constructive towards students' possible failings, then the methods will be better and results will be more satisfying


[23-Jul-20 06:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Bearing in mind the best results are all in Asian countries, which are ruthlessly traditional schools.


[23-Jul-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku https://educationvotes.nea.org/2017/05/07/lacking-oversight-charter-schools-squandered-223-mil-tax-dollars/

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Lacking oversight, charter schools squandered $223 mil of your tax ...
New Report: Without more oversight, millions of additional taxpayer dollars could be lost to charter school waste, fraud, and abuse.
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[23-Jul-20 06:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Privatization would provide better oversight, people are generally careful with their own money.


[23-Jul-20 06:21 PM] Frosku#5874
No one's going to shell out $14,000 a year for something they don't understand.


[23-Jul-20 06:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Have you ever spent $14,000 without doing your research? I haven't. Maybe you're wealthier than me. :P


[23-Jul-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, privatization would further corporate and trust interests and orient the education system towards profit


[23-Jul-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None of which would alleviate the student debt crisis


[23-Jul-20 06:22 PM] Frosku#5874
The vast majority of successful private schools are nonprofits.


[23-Jul-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And how many private schools are nonprofits?


[23-Jul-20 06:23 PM] Frosku#5874
The majority of private schools in the US are 501(c)3 nonprofits


[23-Jul-20 06:23 PM] Frosku#5874
There are very few profitable schools in the US below college level


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[23-Jul-20 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku and college level is often what is needed to have a meaningful job -- and most private colleges in the US are for profit, no?


[23-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Frosku#5874
The best performing ones are, yes.


[23-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Frosku#5874
The ones that utterly destroy anything available in the public sector, anywhere in the world, yes those are run for profit.


[23-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
why would people open up more private schools for a product that is barely profitable?


[23-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Frosku#5874
Because people are driven by things other than profits.


[23-Jul-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thirdway.org/report/incomplete-the-quality-crisis-at-americas-private-non-profit-colleges

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Analyzing data from the Department of Education’s College Scorecard, we found that at the typical institution, nearly half of the students aren’t graduating, many students aren’t earning sufficient incomes even years after enrollment, and far too many are unable to repay their...
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[23-Jul-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some damning finds in this research


[23-Jul-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
tbh it seems like people aren't driven by much other than profit anymore when it comes to private industries


[23-Jul-20 06:28 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I'm more than happy to agree that the college system is busted. I wonder what the ideology of the professors at most of those colleges is.


[23-Jul-20 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not communist, for sure


[23-Jul-20 06:29 PM] Frosku#5874
But likely progressive.


[23-Jul-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of my professors were not progressive


[23-Jul-20 06:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i guess it depends on the region the college is located


[23-Jul-20 06:30 PM] Frosku#5874
IIRC 9/10 college professors are registered Democrats, it's something in that level of crazy.


[23-Jul-20 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
but no, there is no way in hell that privatizing the entire school system would lead to anything other than a much lower rate of education in the US


[23-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Then why is it that private education performs better?


[23-Jul-20 06:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku and how many are open to noticing patterns of failure in society at large? They can be liberals or centrists, i could give less of a damn about that


[23-Jul-20 06:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Then why is it that private education performs better?
@Frosku  because it's exclusive


[23-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 I dare say the vast majority of educated/intelligent people can find problems in society. Fixing them is where we struggle.


[23-Jul-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another problem is location, private schools tend to locate themselves in cities. privatizing schools would leave rural children out of the loop


[23-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Frosku#5874
You have your radical proposals and I have mine, and the vast majority of America will never hear either of us because the mainstream media is controlled by people with an ideology neither of us share.


[23-Jul-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[23-Jul-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The majority of media conforms to your beliefs


[23-Jul-20 06:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
actually rural in general is an issue with privatization, the low population count is unprofitable for the most part and too spread out


[23-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Frosku#5874
The majority of the media is agorist/minarchist? Not that I've seen.


[23-Jul-20 06:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're a capitalist and put responsibility for societal problems on individual or psychological failures


[23-Jul-20 06:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most American media believes that too


[23-Jul-20 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And you'll find few outlets outside of the minor alternative media conforming to what i advocate for


[23-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm a capitalist in the sense of wanting true free markets, which are not advocated by anyone in the mainstream media.


[23-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Frosku#5874
You'll find no one on Fox News, let alone MSNBC/CNN/others, who is sympathetic to my views.


[23-Jul-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok buddy


[23-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Who on Fox News has ever advocated the full privatization of education and the abolition of the welfare state?


[23-Jul-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that your ideology and that of the big capitalists is any different in practice


[23-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe Stossel but IIRC he's not on Fox any more


[23-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Frosku#5874
And he ran a small show on Fox Business.


[23-Jul-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, most conservative and ancap "libertarian" think tanks are frequently funded by billionaires and corporate interests


[23-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Crow#5457
more oversight and regulation of how public funding for schools is used is considered radical?


[23-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Frosku#5874
I would have let the banks fail. Find someone advocating that on Fox.


[23-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow My friend here is a communist. :P I think that's quite radical.


[23-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
why is that relevant?


[23-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Because we were talking about radical solutions to wide-ranging societal problems which goes beyond the discussion about school funding.


[23-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Crow#5457
just because someone has personal beliefs considered radical doesn't mean their proposals are radical


[23-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Specifically, the subject was the ideology of college professors


[23-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Frosku#5874
And frankly, I'd rather have @BadgingBadger🦄🌈's ideas than the shit the colleges have inflicted on American society, because they at least come from a place of wanting a fair society.


[23-Jul-20 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, you're saying that your ideology is such and such, but in practice it seems you want the same things that mainstream capitalists want


[23-Jul-20 06:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't want the same things mainstream capitalists want.


[23-Jul-20 06:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.prwatch.org/news/2020/01/13531/right-wing-megadonors-are-financing-media-operations-promote-their-ideologies

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Some of the wealthiest conservative donors in the U.S. have poured over $100 million into media since 2015, a CMD analysis has found.
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[23-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Mainstream capitalists want a big government that hands them money, and ideally doesn't hand their competitors money.


[23-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You do -- it's in the class interest of American capitalists to privatize the most services they can, except for when the inevitable mismanagement crisis kicks in and the working class people who use these services voice their discontent in an organized fashion


[23-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Frosku#5874
The Kochs have always been libertarians. Warren Buffett and George Soros do the same for progressive media. It's not really surprising that ideological people spend their money promoting their ideologies.


[23-Jul-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
George Soros is an anti-communist lol


[23-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[23-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Frosku#5874
He's a progressive, progressives aren't communists. Generally I find traditional Marxism the best of the left-wing ideologies.


[23-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
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Privatization is short-term gain with long-term pain
Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall has opened the door to the possible privatization of SaskTel – the publicly-owned telephone, cell, and internet provider in that province. Saskatchewan has a long history of strong and profitable Crown corporations like SaskTel that benefit every...
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[23-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Because at the very least, it recognizes that class determines more about societal standing than race or gender instead of retardedly claiming that a broke redneck has more societal standing than Barack Obama.


[23-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
>  Privatization has always proven to be a short term fix that creates many problems down the road, such as the loss of future revenues for the province. Private corporations serve their shareholders while Crown (public) corporations serve the good of everyone providing needed revenues to help pay for hospital, schools and infrastructure.
> 
> The reason SaskTel was created was because the private corporations weren’t interested in delivering services to low profit or non-profitable areas of the province. But now that the public has built the infrastructure through their taxes, the private sector is happy to take ownership.
> 
> One only needs to look next door to Manitoba to see what happens when MTS, the public phone service was privatized. Basic phone service through SaskTel is $8 per month; 27% lower than comparable service provided by the privatized MTS in Manitoba. Meanwhile SaskTel returned $497 million over the past five years through its annual dividend to the people of Saskatchewan.


[23-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
>  But Saskatchewan isn’t the only province with privatization fever. In Ontario the Liberal government is in the process of selling off 60% of the province’s most valuable public asset, Ontario Hydro. A majority of Ontarians oppose the plan, but the Liberal government is proceeding with its short term fix to pay down debt while foregoing a revenue stream that has provided on average about a billion dollars annually. This means less money for vital public services, a total loss of public oversight, and increased energy rates to pay for corporate profits.


[23-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
That's somewhat true with natural monopolies like telecomms, yes. There are issues with privatizing those.


[23-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Though cellular telecomms suffer less from that issue, and are quickly taking over.


[23-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Crow#5457
and I still can't find a single case where privatization somehow leads to increased oversight, so I'm not really sure how you came up with that


[23-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Privatization leads to competition, which leads to companies having to promote their product against alternatives, which leads to them trying to discover issues with the alternatives.


[23-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Competition is a good mechanism for transparency, because the incentive is to offer a better product than the competitor, and that means being able to compare.


[23-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Frosku#5874
If we had to have regulation to enforce transparency, I would be in favor of that, though I would largely think it redundant.


[23-Jul-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Competition can only last so long until the companies who have accumulated the most funds form cartels to crush the competition and negotiate prices for that purpose


[23-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, typically competition fails because regulation blocks new entrants out of the market. It's little surprise that the least regulated industries have the most competition.


[23-Jul-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and the ones lobbying for regulating competing businesses out of the market are the companies who dominate it


[23-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Of course


[23-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Why do you think I'm so against regulation? It primarily serves to benefit entrenched market leaders and make them less accountable to the people.


[23-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd take a bonfire of regulation over a tax cut.


[23-Jul-20 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some regulations can be actually good when unhindered by corporate interests, such as workplace safety regulations, sanitary inspection, transparency which is a regulation itself...


[23-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Frosku#5874
Some can, but most of those outcomes could be better achieved by unions than regulations.


[23-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to assume the government can do that alone though -- these regulations are often results from organized complaints by working people employed in these companies


[23-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
If there were one regulation I would support strongly, that I think most capitalists would oppose, it would be a right to unionization (in the private sector).


[23-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, that is fair


[23-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Markets do not work without unions.


[23-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Otherwise consumers and companies play off each other and the worker always loses.


[23-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
> Well, typically competition fails because regulation blocks new entrants out of the market
you mean lobbyists from established businesses lobby (bribe) government officials to use regulations to harass or even outright block entrants from the market


[23-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Frosku#5874

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[23-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Exactly that, but the power exists, so the answer is to make the power not exist.


[23-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
that isn't a failing of regulation, that's not enough regulation (no regulation on what lobbyists are and aren't allowed to do, no regulation on lobbying itself, etc)


[23-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
the simpler and more effective solution is to ban lobbying entirely


[23-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Crow#5457
which is in and of itself a form of regulation


[23-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Who would write the regulation on lobbying? Probably more lobbyists, you'd just end up with regulations making it harder for smaller companies to even compete in lobbying.


[23-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Governments are always going to consult the people when it comes to legislation, that includes and will always include business owners.


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or politicians made accountable to the people through threats of mass strike action


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
then make it so that it's not only business owners who have access to politicians


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
If they can't lobby directly they'll set up think tanks and media outlets to lobby for them. This already happens in Europe where direct lobbying is illegal.


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The people of the United States could achieve so much if they had an actual will to organize as a labor movement


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Crow#5457
pretty much every lobbyist event is prohibitively expensive to attend if you aren't personally invited


[23-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I actually 100% agree with that @BadgingBadger🦄🌈. We would all be better off if labor made its voice heard.


[23-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Frosku#5874
I wouldn't advocate deregulation without strong unions, it would be a disaster, but unions could replace regulatory structures in a small government world, if they were properly empowered to do so.


[23-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Frosku#5874
And unions aren't answerable to lobbyists or voters out of state, only to the workers who comprise them.


[23-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[23-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Frosku#5874
The right to withdraw labor is a fundamental right, without it we have a system of slavery.


[23-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I have an idea on how to make this better. What if instead of a bunch of individual cars, we link a bunch of big cars together


[23-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
and to keep it from moving around too much, put them on rails


[23-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's as revolutionary as my concept of an Uber that carries a lot of people and has predesignated stops


[23-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Frosku#5874
That... sounds like a good idea... but quite unpopular during a pandemic ;)


[23-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Honahue#0656
it sucks for anyone trying to get into the station cause all the parking is taken


[23-Jul-20 07:02 PM] wren#0114
what if you could park on the train like a ferry


[23-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This concept basically only exists for people who don't like the three minutes it takes to get out of a metro station and hail a cab


[23-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Also far more appropriate in a city.


[23-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Is this hyperloop or self-driving taxis?


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The people to whom this is appealing, have they ever actually _been_ on a subway/metro


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Honahue#0656
surface rail is cheaper than subways and plenty effective in smaller cities


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is his weird inefficient subway thing


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean it's appealing to me to not to have to deal with the stink of burgers, piss and sweat when I ride around to be honest.


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Where you drive your car into this tube system that slings it along


[23-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Thats hyperloop rght?


[23-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wouldn't it just be better to make cars faster/allow them to go faster on current highways?


[23-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Honahue#0656
the l00p


[23-Jul-20 07:05 PM] Honahue#0656
highways are designed for the speeds people already travel at


[23-Jul-20 07:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Speed limits are designed for fines


[23-Jul-20 07:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Underground highways are an interesting idea.


[23-Jul-20 07:06 PM] Honahue#0656
they exist they come with their own problems and putting them under a city is dumb as hell


[23-Jul-20 07:06 PM] Honahue#0656
it's another idiot billionaire with a surface level read of a problem monitizing a non-solution


[23-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
more lanes doesn't solve traffic problems, better public transportation demonstrably does


[23-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Frosku#5874
tbh I think it'll mostly be used by rich people


[23-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Honahue#0656
yes


[23-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
it's also been shown that reducing the quality of public transportation increases traffic


[23-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd probably use it for the convenience but I don't expect it to be cheap.


[23-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Tunneling isn't cheap.


[23-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Frosku#5874
Then again I don't spend much time in large cities, when I do I usually just use Uber.


[23-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Honahue#0656
no but Musk has been advertising that he's innovated tunnelling to make it cheaper which sounds like something a car salesman would say


[23-Jul-20 07:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This would maybe be acceptable if intercity, though faster trains would be better


[23-Jul-20 07:10 PM] Crow#5457
a subway would take the same amount of effort and be infinitely better at reducing traffic in a city


[23-Jul-20 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But intercity travel will always be held back by the aviation industry


[23-Jul-20 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's really only one super-popular rail line in the entire US that has replaced airplanes entirely


[23-Jul-20 07:10 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DC-NYC


[23-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Frosku#5874
The main use for this I think will be with self-driving cars


[23-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Honahue#0656
innercity tunnel roads is going to be a death trap, at least with subways and rails people can't just drift out of their lane and crash into a wall plus there would be a central organization that could monitor the trains


[23-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Frosku#5874
But even then I just struggle to see how it would be cheaper or more efficient than layering more roads on top of each other instead of digging expensive tunnels.


[23-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't one of the appeals of self-driving cars that they can go faster because humans aren't involved and introducing error


[23-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is this tunnel necessary then


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, they reduce error. Software is never error-free.


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Granny tries to walk past a self driving car.


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make a self-driving car that can go 200+ MPH


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Honahue#0656
yes people want the robot planet from Futurama but garentee without some government regulation cars from different manufacturers aren't going to talk to eachother to manage that


[23-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
pretty sure the self driving car software, even at this point, is less error-prone than humans are atm


[23-Jul-20 07:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Without a doubt


[23-Jul-20 07:14 PM] Honahue#0656
sorta, remember the Uber car that killed a pedestrian cause she wasn't in a pedestrian crossing so the car assumed she couldn't be a pedestrian


[23-Jul-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[23-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Honahue#0656
I like this but billionaires live way too long to make that meaningful


[23-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Frosku#5874
If billionaires get divorced do they split their senators?


[23-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Honahue#0656
hopefully Solomon style


[23-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Frosku#5874
"You have the left side, I'll have the right"?


[23-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Honahue#0656
yes


[23-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Frosku#5874
"Half a Chuck Schumer goes to Mr Moneybags, and half to Mrs Bankaccount"


[23-Jul-20 07:18 PM] wren#0114
self driving cars are most definitely not better than humans yet


[23-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Frosku#5874
tbh I think a car making decisions randomly would be better than most of the drivers around here.


[23-Jul-20 07:18 PM] wren#0114
I personally won't trust computer vision algos with my life for a long while


[23-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Honahue#0656
I think that developing the tech for railed transport would be great, removes a lot of variable


[23-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Honahue#0656
and there should be much more railed transport in the uS


[23-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Railed transport works between cities and inside cities


[23-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Frosku#5874
But it's not viable in smaller towns and rural areas, we need a good mix of transport options.


[23-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Honahue#0656
seems dubious considering trains came before cars and there was plenty of rural and low density cities back then. if cities are poorly laid out for public transport now it's cause there's been decades of highway fetishism in city planning


[23-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, and yet we never built train stations at every hamlet or trailer park


[23-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Frosku#5874
Because it wasn't economically reasonable to do so, nor particularly environmentally friendly.


[23-Jul-20 07:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Rail is actually an environmental nightmare if your trains aren't running at good capacity.


[23-Jul-20 07:30 PM] Frosku#5874
And no one heading from Charlotte to Austin wants to stop off at every little town on the way, the journey would take days.


[23-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Honahue#0656
there's a solution for this, it's pretty old and extremely technical but instead of runing diesel electric you can run a wire over the tracks and power the trains from your grid


[23-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Frosku#5874
And the energy in your grid is largely generated from fossil fuels :P


[23-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
It's the same issue electric cars have


[23-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Honahue#0656
yes but its easier to switch out consolidated power plants with something better than to switch out millions of internal combustion engines


[23-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
it's still more efficient than burning fuel


[23-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
and it's much easier to switch out the source of electricity than it is to convert a train from diesel to electric


[23-Jul-20 07:33 PM] wren#0114
need more nuclear power like france


[23-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
france is actually shutting down its nuclear reactors in favor of solar and wind power


[23-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Frosku#5874
It's really not, physics 101 would tell you that transferring stored energy to kinetic energy is more efficient than transferring stored energy to electric energy to kinetic energy.


[23-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
because of the waste produced by the nuclear reactors


[23-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Frosku#5874
All of those transactions generate heat/sound/light which is lost energy


[23-Jul-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
the waste produced by the manufacture of solar and wind plants (with current methods), is much more hazardous to the environment


[23-Jul-20 07:35 PM] wren#0114
it isn't contained like nuclear is


[23-Jul-20 07:35 PM] wren#0114
fun fact: nuclear power in the US has less downtime than fossil fuel plants, even with scheduled maintenance downtimes of several months long


[23-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Solar and wind have their own issues, hydroelectric is awesome but you can't use it everywhere.


[23-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but the difference is even the best diesels get about 30% efficiency while an electric motor can get in the 90's but batteries suck so diesel is still better for power density, which is why you run a wire overtop so the train doesn't need a battery


[23-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
```I mean I think anyone who wants citizenship should have a good understanding of English, the Constitution, their state Constitution, the history of the country, the writings of the founders.```

that'd be a wonderful idea, but make this mandatory for _everyone_, not just immigrants. Then we'll see how far the _'civic values'_ go.


[23-Jul-20 07:36 PM] wren#0114
yes make it taught in schools pls


[23-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah but if that 90% is coming from shale which has been converted to electricity at below 30% in the first place, it's not that great.


[23-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
I need a source on that claim that the manufacture of solar/wind plants hurts the environment more than radioactive waste that lasts for thousands of years


[23-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Honahue#0656
anyway, nuclear shoud be used for base power, it's the peaking generators we probably still need fossil fuels for while or really good storage for wind and solar


[23-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Frosku#5874
It's not that simple because there are various types of environmental harm


[23-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Manufacture of wind turbines isn't dreadful, but they kill bats and birds (and repairpeople)


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Manufacture of solar is pretty bad


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114
I don't have time to gather and vet sources but here's a quick one


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114
https://fee.org/articles/solar-panels-produce-tons-of-toxic-waste-literally/

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Solar Panels Produce Tons of Toxic Waste—Literally | Bill Wirtz
Beyond the clear misallocation of resources and energy market price distortions, there are numerous human health concerns directly related to the manufacture and disposal of solar panels.
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[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Frosku#5874
And the storage for both of them is pretty bad.


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Opponent#3498
```Perhaps the issue is the way we approach education, which has moved away from proven methods and into ideology.```
oh yeah, you literally said it was a bad thing some posts under. Oh well.


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
also nuclear energy came out of weapons research not energy research there's LFTR which should be much safer and doesn't produce the kinds of radioactive waste the uranium reactors do


[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114

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[23-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Honahue#0656
but there's no political will behind nuclear


[23-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Nuclear is controversial because of Chernobyl, which is dumb because a modern nuclear plant could never have those issues.


[23-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Frosku#5874
The issues with early reactor design were known decades before the Chernobyl meltdown.


[23-Jul-20 07:39 PM] wren#0114
I'm not saying nuclear waste is ok to ignore. I'm saying the manufacture of solar at least is highly toxic and the waste for it isn't being contained


[23-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Honahue#0656
not even a US made reactor either, Three Mile Island didn't help and the coal lobby jumped on that


[23-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Coal kills far more people daily than Three Mile Island or Fukushima did in disasters.


[23-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
even the earliest designs wouldn't have the issues chernobyl had


[23-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Honahue#0656
nuclear has a PR problem cause to most people it's the closest to IRL Cthulhu we have and you also need a few PhD's at the plant to run it where a coal plant you could get away with and undergrad in electrical engineering


[23-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
It's because laypeople think 'nuclear' and think of atomic bombs, which have little in common with nuclear reactors.


[23-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
chernobyl wasn't just a flawed design, it was literally built wrong


[23-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Crow#5457
and even then it would've been fine if the people running it weren't corrupt as fuck


[23-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
I drive a Tesla so I'm definitely a hypocrite on this.


[23-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
@wren the trouble here is that we're looking at the greenhouse gas emissions.


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nuclear's problem isn't greenhouse gases.


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's solid waste you need to store as a result of operation.


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Honahue#0656
not lay people's fault either nuclear energy came from nuclear weapons research, had things been the other way around we'd likely have reactors that were much safer and less nuclear waste but the military wanted high grade uranium and plutonium not energy


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Nuclear's problem is the waste, though we can minimize that waste with thorium reactors.


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Frosku#5874
As a lot of the waste is thorium


[23-Jul-20 07:42 PM] wren#0114
greenhouse gas being co2?


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing solar aren't great, but you hav to compare them vs. 40 years of normal operation of coal/oil power.


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
Not just CO2.


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Nebbie#8545
The article lists a more potent one as well.


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fission as a stop gap till we get fusion. Spend trillions into fusion reshurch. Dams, wind and, solar as  suplremntly power gernration. Massive switch to electric cars. Boom, I just solved engery crisis and cut carbon emmtions.


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] wren#0114
fusion when


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Fusion is a long way off


[23-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Honahue#0656
ITER is getting built and China wants fusion on grid in 20 years which is impressive goal cause a power plant can take 10 years to build


[23-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
http://news.mit.edu/2019/progress-practical-fusion-energy-0124

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MIT continues progress toward practical fusion energy
In series of talks, researchers describe major effort to address climate change through carbon-free power.
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[23-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
As for wind, the blades become solid waste.


[23-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Honahue#0656
at least that what the natural gas plant in my town says it will take


[23-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Inert solid waste that can be recycled into housing materials.


[23-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Or more blades


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Making new blades out of old is still a little out of reach.


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Opponent#3498
```Fission as a stop gap till we get fusion. Spend trillions into fusion reshurch. Dams, wind and, solar as  suplremntly power gernration. ```
You forgot 'defeat coal/oil lobby' in that list :wheeze:  The effort that turns decades into centuries.


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Coal is nearly dead except for China.


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Frosku#5874
The main issue with wind seems to be the animals that die because of it, as well as storage concerns and unpredictable generation.


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's on life support in the US, dead in Europe, dying before it's even really born in India.


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Frosku#5874
US is still 23% coal


[23-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Honahue#0656
the blades are fiberglass and take a lot of damage on the edges, even if you recycled them it's basically melting it down and building them anew


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent Make lobyiing illigal.

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[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
And most of that lost market share is to shale, not renewables.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] wren#0114
hnnnng


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
No new coal plants are being built in the US.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
sure let's go with that :twismug:


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] wren#0114
delet lobbyist


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many are being decommissioned.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Honahue#0656
Natty Gas is the new hotness


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Curb stomp  corptat power


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
You cannot make lobbying illegal, it doesn't work that way. That means you're not allowed to write to your senator.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Even if renewables vanished, coal is dead.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Lobbying is more than writing to senators.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Move mankind forward with fission and fusion.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Lobbying is a lot of things, but it's not just a single thing you can ban.


[23-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
you cannot make lobbying illegal because you'd have to defeat lobbying on _that_ question too :wheeze:


[23-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Opponent#3498
and it'd be even more contentious and have more money behind it than oil.


[23-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Frosku#5874
I know a couple of lobbyists IRL.


[23-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You can write your senator, just not be able to take corprate donations for poltical reasons.


[23-Jul-20 07:48 PM] wren#0114
man I wish I was paid to wine and dine with politicians and give them gifts in order to push corporate agendas


[23-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Opponent#3498
good life, that, if that's what it actually is.


[23-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Coal is dead :wheeze: 
U just gonna sell coal in third world countries who gives zero fucks about your ecology


[23-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Frosku#5874
It's mostly not


[23-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Build dams and fission plants in the third world.


[23-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Most of lobbying is trying to draw attention to an issue people or businesses care about enough that senators want to do something about it.


[23-Jul-20 07:50 PM] wren#0114
what would happen if we just dumped nuclear waste into the mariana trench


[23-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Honahue#0656
you'd kill the thigs that live down there


[23-Jul-20 07:50 PM] wren#0114
~~inb4 godzilla~~


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Honahue#0656
also Godzilla


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nothing would happen,we already dump nuclear waste into the ocean


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Save the cute animals plz


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] wren#0114
where


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
gen 3 reactors my dude. recicle that waste.


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Opponent#3498
iirc humans are just about the most succeptible to nuclear waste; so probably not much.


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] wren#0114
the animals that deep aren't cute


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] wren#0114
they're a frighten


[23-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_waste

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Ocean disposal of radioactive waste
From 1946 through 1993, thirteen countries used ocean disposal or ocean dumping as a method to dispose of nuclear/radioactive waste. The waste materials included both liquids and solids housed in various containers, as well as reactor vessels, with and without spent or damaged...


[23-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Frosku#5874
What about the fishpones?


[23-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Now we call them glowing fishthingies


[23-Jul-20 07:53 PM] wren#0114

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[23-Jul-20 07:53 PM] wren#0114
I wrote an essay on nuclear years ago but I can't remember where I have it saved


[23-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.dw.com/en/fukushima-how-the-ocean-became-a-dumping-ground-for-radioactive-waste/a-52710277

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The nuclear disaster at Fukushima sent an unprecedented amount of radiation into the Pacific. But, before then, atomic bomb tests and radioactive waste were contaminating the sea — the effects are still being felt today.
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[23-Jul-20 07:54 PM] wren#0114
the recyclability percentages are ridiculously high once you get into secondary reactors (with thorium I think? I forget now)


[23-Jul-20 07:54 PM] wren#0114
but it looks like we're not doing it fully in the US yet


[23-Jul-20 08:00 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12188789/michigan-teacher-fired-trump-president/

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A TEACHER said he was fired this month after he tweeted that Donald Trump “is our president” — and was given the choice to quit or be fired. Justin Kucera, a Varsity baseball coach and history teac…
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[23-Jul-20 08:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He's gonna be a millionaire soon

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[23-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Well the school is the asshole in this scituation.


[23-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He is infact the presdent.


[23-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
A really really shitty one but the presdent.


[23-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For now. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[23-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Rn he is looking more like H.W. Bush then W Bush


[23-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reagan and W Bush (last two term R president) had higher approveal rateings then Trump in this day in there presdenty then Trump does


[23-Jul-20 09:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/735929017588514976/nkc0cF3NI8No63yAa1rWHzy0AhXLYYSkmhToh0PTyPc.jpg

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[23-Jul-20 09:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Boston

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Siege of Boston
The Siege of Boston (April 19, 1775 – March 17, 1776) was the opening phase of the American Revolutionary War. New England militiamen prevented the movement by land of the British Army, which was garrisoned in what was then the peninsular city of Boston, Massachusetts Bay. Bot...
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[23-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
that's a really long riot


[23-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-payroll-tax-republicans-senate-stimulus-bill-coronavirus-covid-19-gop-a9634491.html

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Blow for Trump as Republicans scrap plans for payroll tax in new st...
GOP Senator Charles E Grassley warned this week the cut would make president's party appear to be raiding Social Security and Medicare
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[23-Jul-20 10:57 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein/index.html

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Judge rules to unseal documents in 2015 case against Ghislaine Maxw...
A federal judge ruled on Thursday to publicly release documents that have been kept under seal in a case involving Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's one-time girlfriend and alleged accomplice.
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[23-Jul-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/q2UW6iE

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Top comment reddit unemployment. This is just sad.
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[23-Jul-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/hwixdc/judge_rules_to_unseal_documents_in_2015_case/fz067cg/

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r/news - Comment by u/GiddiOne on ”Judge rules to unseal documents ...
57,644 votes and 2,629 comments so far on Reddit
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[23-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1286385825090019328

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The United States just reached 4 million reported coronavirus cases:

0 to 1 million cases: 99 days
1 to 2 million cases: 43 days
2 to 3 million cases: 28 days
3 to 4 million cases: 15 days
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[23-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[23-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Unsurprisingly, mass protests aren't good at controlling viruses.


[23-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
there was an article not too long ago here claiming the opposite. Nebbie or Crow could probably point at it more precisely.


[23-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-no-spike-cities-despite-protests-big-surge-in-states-that-reopened-20200627.html

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COVID-19 has not surged in cities with big protests, but it has in ...
Were protesters somehow protected from COVID-19 by being outside? Probably not.
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[23-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, this unproven talking point keeps popping up over and over, that somehow the mass protests are contributing to the spread of the coronavirus


[23-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Honahue#0656
perhaps unsurprisingly the protesters tend to be the people taking the virus serioulsy and wear mask, anonimity is also good


[23-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Honahue#0656
considering most of them tend to be those with essential jobs that pay the least have the worst health care but are the most exposed


[23-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
https://cheezburger.com/12080389/tumblr-thread-the-usa-explained

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Tumblr Thread: The USA Explained
Checks out.
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[23-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9522523904/hFC9218EF/than-everyone-elses-so-if-car-manufacturer-detroit-wants-sell-their-damn-cars-california-they-ne

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[23-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
this tbh. The first one, especially.


[23-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
clean air standards, not nessesarily a bad thing if it does what it says on the tin.


[23-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
if it's just another 'existence tax', :sad: .


[23-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Honahue#0656
it has, LA still has shitty air but way less shitty than it did before the standards


[23-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9522524160/hD4236183/california-shouts-and-while-at-dont-give-shit-say-mister-president-gonna-open-our-damn-states-go

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[23-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Honahue#0656
they really need to bring back the trolly to bring it down more


[23-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Honahue#0656
demolish like 10 lanes of the 5 and put in a train


[23-Jul-20 11:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-records-significant-dip-in-covid-19-cases-no-new-deaths-1.5035864

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Ontario records significant dip in COVID-19 cases, no new deaths
The number of new cases of COVID-19 in Ontario has dropped once again following several days of relatively high numbers.
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[24-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Synfag#9241
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[24-Jul-20 12:31 AM] Synfag#9241

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[24-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Synfag#9241
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[24-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Synfag#9241
Marenheit's donations went through

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[24-Jul-20 01:22 AM] Honahue#0656
this is why we should switch to roundabouts, stoplights and signs are facism, big government deciding for you how you should interact at a crossroad, the egalitarian roundabout allows the people at the intersection to interact with eachother instead of being mediated by the government

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[24-Jul-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We should sleep in the rainy grass, beds are the governments way of controlling us and putting us on a sleep shelf for night display like the  communist perverts they are!


[24-Jul-20 01:43 AM] wren#0114
use a rollout japanese futon like me


[24-Jul-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-53515893

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[24-Jul-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
never thought they'd do it


[24-Jul-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/senate-approves-proposal-to-strip-confederate-names-from-army-bases-by-veto-proof-majority

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[24-Jul-20 02:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1956399/ex-nazi-camp-guard-93-gets-two-year-suspended-sentence

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Ex-Nazi camp guard, 93, gets two-year suspended sentence
HAMBURG: A 93-year-old former Nazi concentration camp guard was handed a suspended sentence of two years on Thursday for complicity in World War II atrocities, in what could be one of the last such cases of surviving SS guards.
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[24-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
@PwnyPony Excuse me, but his name is *Poots*?


[24-Jul-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
:plot:💨


[24-Jul-20 02:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Yea. Edwin Poots


[24-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some slang is really unfortunate for certain people whose names take on new meanings.


[24-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
MR. POOTS


[24-Jul-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I can definitely feel bad for legitimately nice people named Karen


[24-Jul-20 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Everything that comes out of that guy may as well be poots


[24-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, ANOTHER old guy given a sentence for doing what he would've been shot if he didn't?


[24-Jul-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
speaking of old people committing crimes https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-cohen-donald-trump-released-jail-book-a9634861.html

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Cohen to be released after judge rules detention was in retaliation...
Judge issues scathing statement denouncing 'retaliatory' move to put president's ex-lawyer back behind bars amid pandemic
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[24-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the hell ever happened to the idea of not doing collective punishment?


[24-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it okay now because we do it to people individually?


[24-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, you can't sentence 20 guys to jailtime because one of them decided to carry out murders and the rest were bound!


[24-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'll just hav to sentence each of the 20 individually!


[24-Jul-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like what the fukk.


[24-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This sets a really, really bad precent for the future.


[24-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every time a shitty regime gets deposed now, anyone who worked for it and didn't immediately quit and run away while being hunted down for execution will be sent to jail.


[24-Jul-20 02:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not going to somehow inspire people to actually do so, it's utterly absurd to expect people to attempt resignation in the face of a regime that's completely unconcerned with human life.


[24-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The way you actually try and go about stopping the horrible shit is to hav people recognize how regimes can put people in binds and actively set up ways to get them out of those binds.


[24-Jul-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1286101530928611328

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[24-Jul-20 02:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think the result was 2 years suspended for one case of attempted murder. but I can't find anything else about that.


[24-Jul-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-faces-protesters-and-tear-gas-head-on

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Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler faces boos, calls to resign and tear gas
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler spoke to a booing crowd of demonstrators, then got gassed by federal authorities alongside them.
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[24-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/GriffinMalone6/status/1285824656331509760

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This one's titled "Portland protestors winning."

Shields, leafblowers, drums, umbrellas, the most confidence I've seen. The feds retreat and protestors push forward pelting them as they go inside the doors.

They have no fear 

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[24-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/508830-yankees-nationals-take-a-knee-then-stand-for-national-anthem-at

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Every player and coach took a knee before the national anthem on Thursday’s Opening Day game between the New York Yankees and the Washington Nationals in support of the "Black Lives Matter" movement.
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[24-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Teams have been auto-balanced_


[24-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns--or dollars. Take your choice--there is no other."

Great quote. Read Ayn Rand.

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[24-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Whips, at least I’m into that.

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[24-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the last tree is cut, the last river poisoned, and the last fish dead, we will discover that we can't eat money.


[24-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
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[24-Jul-20 05:18 AM] jlun2#8758
> we can't eat money.
time to betray family & friends for their flesh


[24-Jul-20 05:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://likeshop.me/post-detail/9790077

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[24-Jul-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
pump and dump


[24-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Marches[45]#0674
nut and bolt


[24-Jul-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
buy high sell low


[24-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[24-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Frosku#5874
https://breaking911.com/former-congressman-charged-with-ballot-stuffing-bribery-and-obstruction/

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A former U.S. Congressman was charged Tuesday in an indictment unsealed today, with conspiring to violate voting rights by fraudulently stuffing the ballot boxes for specific candidates in the 2014, 2015, and 2016 primary elections, bribery of an election official, falsificati...
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[24-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Frosku#5874
"Myers is charged with bribing Demuro to illegally add votes for certain candidates of their mutual party in primary elections. Some ofthese candidates were individuals running for judicial office whose campaigns had hired Myers, andothers were candidates for various federal, state, and local elective offices whom Myers favored for a variety of reasons. According to the indictment, Myers would solicit payments from his clients in the form of cash or checks as “consulting fees,” and then use portions of these funds to pay Demuro and others in return for tampering with election results.
After receiving payments ranging from between $300 to $5,000 per election from the consultant, the court papers allege Demuro would add fraudulent votes on the voting machine – also known as “ringing up” votes – for Myers’ clients and preferred candidates, thereby diluting the value of ballots cast by actual voters. At Myers’ direction, Demuro would add these fraudulent votes to the totals during Election Day, and then would later falsely certify that the voting machine results were accurate. Myers is also accused of directing Demuro to lie about the circumstances of the bribes and the ballot-stuffing scheme to investigators."


[24-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seems he hasn't changed in 40 years.


[24-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
He got tossed out of the House of Representatives because of involvement in Abscam.


[24-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also a big reason to distrust voting machines.


[24-Jul-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
Can you bring me up to speed on that


[24-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Big FBI sting operation involving people who were all too eager to get their hands on Arab money in the wake of OPEC.


[24-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bit of a controversial thing, cause entrapment and all that, but it found a lot of corrupt people.


[24-Jul-20 06:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Entrapment really shouldn't apply on corruption charges, should it...


[24-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well the issue is the FBI was running a fake company to ask people if they wanted some hot Arab money.

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[24-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uglv-fV1CqI

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[24-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Synfag#9241

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[24-Jul-20 01:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
synfig, do you ever post arguments or just bad-faith memes


[24-Jul-20 01:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He exists as a living example of how mere exposure to reason does not make someone reasonable


[24-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Frosku#5874
"Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it."
- Ayn Rand


[24-Jul-20 02:13 PM] Frosku#5874
But idk, I see a lot of memes in here, people can choose to be reasonable or humorous and freely switch between the two.


[24-Jul-20 02:51 PM] byte[]#2610
oopsie https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-wilber-rosss-personal-email-account-is-subject-to-foia-requests-because-he-used-it-for-government-business/

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Judge:  Wilber Ross’s Personal Email Account is Subject to FOIA Req...
A federal court has ruled that Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross’s personal emails were subject to discovery in a lawsuit over departmental records.
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[24-Jul-20 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/508848-president-trump-presents-the-medal-of-freedom-to-jim-ryun

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Trump presents the Medal of Freedom
President Trump is scheduled to present the Medal of Freedom to former Olympic runner and congressman, Jim Ryun.The event is scheduled to begin at 11:00 AM EST.Watch the live video above.
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[24-Jul-20 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/bolivia-delays-presidential-elections-once-again/1920410


[24-Jul-20 04:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Right wing in Bolivia really scared of losing in case of legitimate elections


[24-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Delaying elections during a pandemic seems reasonable, the London mayoral election was delayed for it.


[24-Jul-20 04:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Right, but how can the Bolivian government guarantee that elections will even happen after the pandemic?


[24-Jul-20 04:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The previous president was practically overthrown by force, and the new government doesn't seem like it has the interests of the majority of people in mind


[24-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not familiar with Bolivian politics tbh, I think we're heading into an era where free and fair elections will become less common, not more.


[24-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Liberalism isn't really winning anywhere right now, it's the circle of politics.


[24-Jul-20 04:34 PM] rdibp#7607
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[24-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Frosku#5874
I feel like we have a really weird state in politics right now where the authoritarians feel more divided by left vs right, but the libertarians feel more divided by liberalism vs authoritarianism. Does anyone else feel this or is it just me?


[24-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Frosku#5874
idk I just don't remember being on the same side of major debates (qualified immunity, cancel culture, etc) as left-liberals so much in a long time.


[24-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe it's just that economic policies are broadly not making headline news at the moment in the US because we have a split house/senate.


[24-Jul-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that tends to happen when everyone is cramped into 2 parties


[24-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, the last time I remember it being like this was Gamergate.


[24-Jul-20 04:48 PM] Frosku#5874
The "alt-right" movement which was 70% in the green quadrant 😂


[24-Jul-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i still dont know much about gamer gate only that it was about journalists and some kind of sexism that resulted in several people becoming very famous for effortlessly reviewing "sexist" games


[24-Jul-20 04:53 PM] Frosku#5874
It was largely about the relationship between consumers of games media and the games media themselves. It was sparked by revelations of games journalists sleeping with developers and reviewing their games which was an ethics concern, but it got a lot more murky and turned into a kindof anti-feminist movement by the end (because the feminists were defending the journalists).


[24-Jul-20 04:54 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Wasn't there also a thing that basically every mainstream "Gaming Journalism™" outlet were in collusion with one-another?


[24-Jul-20 04:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ShawTim/status/1286576932235091968

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The newly released Paper Mario gets caught for censorship.
In Japanese it says “Toad wants #HumanRights and #Freedom.”
In Chinese it censors to “Toad wants a plain outlook and peaceful life.”

#PaperMario 
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[24-Jul-20 05:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/07/24/Turkey-plans-to-increase-its-forces-in-Libya-in-case-of-Egyptian-intervention-Report.html

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Turkey plans to increase its forces in Libya in case of Egyptian in...
Turkey put in place a military plan in anticipation of a possible Egyptian intervention in Libya,
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[24-Jul-20 05:27 PM] Synfag#9241
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/508759-gops-gohmert-introduces-resolution-that-would-ban-the-democratic-party

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Rep.
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[24-Jul-20 05:28 PM] Synfag#9241
> *Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) introduced a bill Thursday on the floor of the House of Representatives that would ban the Democratic Party due to the party’s history of having supported slavery and the Confederacy*


[24-Jul-20 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:bigbrain:


[24-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Synfag#9241
gotta rename that party.


[24-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Shhhh


[24-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No one mention what the Southern Strategy was, or the Revolution of 1994


[24-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dixiecrats never existed


[24-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Strom Thurmond was just a Senate janitor


[24-Jul-20 05:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"The Democrats are the party of slavery and the confederacy"
*tears down confederate statue*
"Stop destroying muh heritage what the fuck man"


[24-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Synfag#9241
> *Gohmert, a Republican, introduced a resolution Thursday that would ban any “names, symbolizes or mentions any political organization or party that has ever held a public position that supported slavery or the Confederacy.”*

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[24-Jul-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp politics is over i guess


[24-Jul-20 05:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no more parties exist! Go home everyone it;s all over


[24-Jul-20 05:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh? Parties shouldn't exist and representatives should be elected for their policy agendas alone


[24-Jul-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
agreed


[24-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Synfag#9241
welp, there's Kanye's party


[24-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Synfag#9241
Birthday Party


[24-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Synfag#9241
🤣


[24-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-chance-of-winning-election-2020-joe-biden-poll-model-a9609236.html

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[24-Jul-20 05:51 PM] jlun2#8758
> The one thing many predictions seem to agree on is that the election could rest crucially on Mr Trump’s leadership of the US through the coronavirus pandemic and mitigating the public health crisis’s impact on the economy in the upcoming months before November.
then he wins by shooting himself in the foot over & over :wheeze:


[24-Jul-20 05:52 PM] Frosku#5874
The model in question completely ignores polling and only looks at fundamentals. It's predicted the winner 90% of the time, better than the second-best model.


[24-Jul-20 05:53 PM] jlun2#8758
> polling
:wheeze:
remember to vote


[24-Jul-20 06:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-repeals-anti-segregation-housing-bill-bid-for-suburban-vote-2020-7

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[24-Jul-20 06:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/OxfordEconomics/status/1263095069038514176

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[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Now that's a fun map.


[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Frosku#5874
It'll never happen.


[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's less a blue wall and more a blue blob.


[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see red AZ or FL


[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Frosku#5874
Calling it here: Trump will win ~320 EC votes, expanding his lead from 2016. Republicans will hold the senate and +1 to their senators, and will re-take the house.


[24-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or blue Ohio


[24-Jul-20 06:28 PM] Frosku#5874
And the woke will have a meltdown because all the same models that failed them in 2016 fail them again.


[24-Jul-20 06:29 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll actually hold you to it. Would be curious to see it later.


[24-Jul-20 06:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm going to bet $25,000 on it in the near future.


[24-Jul-20 06:30 PM] Frosku#5874
The odds are looking real nice.


[24-Jul-20 06:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In Vegas?


[24-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the models predicted 2018.


[24-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Kindof


[24-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Frosku#5874
The models predicted Republicans would win, but not the margins by which it happened.


[24-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Alright, you want an even crazier prediction?


[24-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump will take Arizona.


[24-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Red Nevada?


[24-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh. That's not so crazy.


[24-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Red Nevada I doubt, it's not impossible but I doubt it.


[24-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Frosku#5874
If GOP win Nevada it will be a blowout, like 400+ EC votes.


[24-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a lot of really weak GOP senators, we might see a Democratic house and Senate but Trump wins re election


[24-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Frosku#5874
That's unlikely in a presidential election year, because whoever gets people to the polls has a good chance of winning the downticket races. Split ticket voting is becoming very uncommon.


[24-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I actually think Biden winning and Republicans holding the senate is more likely than Trump winning and GOP losing the senate.


[24-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Frosku#5874
But I don't think either of those things is likely unless Americans consciously 'hedge' against the far left by giving Republicans the Senate.


[24-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Which, if you're a moderate Democrat, you might want to think about, because your party isn't yours any more.


[24-Jul-20 06:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly, moderate democrats would probably be voting republican anyway if republicans hadnt gone batshit insane in recent years


[24-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Frosku#5874
I expect so, because the Democrats certainly have.


[24-Jul-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we neded ranked voting


[24-Jul-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this 2 party system is getting annoying


[24-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Frosku I just don't see a Trump 2020 win happining. Middle Amereica has seen that Trump has scamed them of there votes and really failed to do much of any improvment. What sane people there are in Fl will vote Biden beacuse they have seen the anti maskers. The only thing that would have stoped Fl from turning blue in 2020 is if Bernie got the nomantion. Add to that the fact that the Biden campain is way better in the not fucking things up dpt then Hillery was. All Trump has done is repeat the words "FAR LEFT BAD" over and over again. That does plaese his base of cultests, it doesn't expand his base to anyone who might have seen him as the lesser evil again. Middle Amereica has felt scamed by Trump and rightly so. His shitty responce to COVID-19 has undone all the progress he made in his 3 years of work. I have seen lots of libatrarins who are also leaning dem with the responce from most of the left now being "Arm BLM prosters" and Trumps fuck ups with Laffite Square and Portland. (arm BLM protesters btw) His deviveisveness has allready forced anyone who leans left into hateing the guy.


[24-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I honestly think the chance of Florida turning blue is near-zero.


[24-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Biden's best chance is to sweep the rust belt & NC.


[24-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Sun Belt.


[24-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I know there is the arugment of "polls are not accureat" but I don't think so.  https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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[24-Jul-20 06:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it;s too soon to call on any polls and predictions


[24-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
I'll just go back to "I haven't seen polls this bad for Trump since November 2016."


[24-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also do keep in mind that Trump has slowly been losing the suburbs, which have been tracking blue for years.


[24-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, but picking up black voters


[24-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbs decide elections. Rural areas and cities basically cancel each other out.


[24-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Suburbs are full of educated whites and women who are tracking to the left.


[24-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reagan and W. Bush had at this point much much higher pop then Trump does this  very day.


[24-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Frosku#5874
I think Trump will lose some suburban areas but he'll pick up a lot of African American votes


[24-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He is much closer to H.W. Bush then W Bush in pop.


[24-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Frosku#5874
He's the most popular Republican in years with black voters, despite huge efforts to paint him as basically a KKK member


[24-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
With trumps handling of BLM protesters, and Biden most likely picking a black woman for VP, the black vote is mostly going to Biden


[24-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Frosku#5874
There are polls showing him getting 40% support from black voters, that's unheard of for a Republican.


[24-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump should ditch Pence and pick up Tim Scott as VP though. That would help a *lot*.


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has pence to attract relgious voters


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Where else will they go?


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And those voters are very much dwindling rn


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Frosku#5874
He also needs to make sure he gets on Candace's show because she has a massive black following.


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
his whole lavita square bit was to simp for them.


[24-Jul-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Candace?


[24-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Princess Cadence  :smugcaddy:


[24-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Candace Owens. Trump doesn't need to worry about the religious vote, the Dems have sealed where they're going lol.


[24-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Religious voters generally focus on 3 issues: abortion, judges, and to a much lesser degree, taxes.


[24-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump has delivered for them on all 3, they're not going to vote for Biden.


[24-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
IDK about that, they are sliping and a pic of him holding a bible upside down that isn't even his won't change much


[24-Jul-20 06:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump hasnt really delivered anything on abortions


[24-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Frosku#5874
They know Trump isn't particularly religious, the fact that he pretends to be pisses them off more than anything.


[24-Jul-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
judges and taxes, yes. abortions, I have yet to see


[24-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Abortion isn't as brought up as much of a point anywhere in 2020. It's high point was back in 2016 and Trump has delivered nothing other then vurtue signling.


[24-Jul-20 06:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's made empty speeches about abortion, but roe v. wade prevents him from doing much ont hat end


[24-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Frosku#5874
No evangelical is sitting there thinking Trump is a great Christian, but they know he's standing between them and a re-funded Planned Parenthood and a liberal replacement for Ginsburg -- a conservative in that spot pretty much ends Roe v Wade.


[24-Jul-20 06:52 PM] jlun2#8758
its so frustrating. young ppl care more about economy but politicians are like "nope abortion is a concern" & im like "im 26 @ min wage & hate interacting with other ppl IRL who gives a shit"


[24-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The major issues for 2020 are COVID and Eccomeny.


[24-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Frosku#5874
Young people don't vote though, young voter turnout is like 30%.


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
If you want people to give a fuck about what our generation wants, get out and vote. Until we do, no one gives a shit what we want.


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] jlun2#8758
i did twice now


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Abortion is mostly un talked about.


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve voted in every election sicne 2008


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] jlun2#8758
still waiting for others to do so with me :ts_cry:


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Abortion only gets talked about when there are supreme court spots, but Ginsburg's recent health issues will make it a factor in November.


[24-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
also voted twice in my country and provence too. NDP for Ontario and Libral in 2019


[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] jlun2#8758
oh right, & that debate on toilets


[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Frosku#5874
She is very unlikely to still be on the SCOTUS in 2024.


[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] jlun2#8758
i legit almost never go outside other than work so :shrugpony:


[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Unless we get a vaccine in Nov, no one would really care about Glinsburg.


[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Frosku#5874
https://news.sky.com/story/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-justice-has-cancer-again-12030909

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg: US Supreme Court Justice has cancer again
The 87-year-old is having chemotherapy, having previously been treated for pancreatic, lung and colon cancer.
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[24-Jul-20 06:54 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman will ppl even use it tho


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump talks about gun rights because it;s what gets him points, if he had the scotus he wouldnt need the gun nuts because voters would never be a threat to him again


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Even if we do, Trump voters will shoot themselves in the foot with the "VAXX BAD" bullshit again


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Gun rights are pretty much not even talked about now, even liberals are arming themselves after the riots.


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Leading to even more people to be embrassed by them and vote dem


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman & still get praised for it :wheeze:


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You realize if you let states ban abortion other states will just become extremely lax about it right


[24-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'll have pro-abortion charity groups flying women from Alabama etc to get one.


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] jlun2#8758
environmentalists go "wtf"


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Yep, and then Alabama just says "We can charge you with premeditated murder for having an out of state abortion"


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The latest talk about gun rights from the left has been arm blm protesters so the gun crowd could turn dem


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Which is how it worked before Roe v Wade.


[24-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
btw arm blm protesters


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, arm BLM protestors, and yeah that would work if mainstream Dems weren't still anti-gun.


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman isnt that how you get gun rights removed? just arm a group of minorities?


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
We want minorities armed


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And then another state says to Alabama "No state funds allowed to flow to Alabama ever"


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
That would guarantee our gun rights forever.


[24-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Right leaning libatarins will be more down for gun rights and not be up for kidnaping for wrong thing beacuse "muh riots"


[24-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Frosku#5874
Right-leaning libertarians wouldn't touch the modern Democrats with a bargepole.


[24-Jul-20 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whenever minorities get guns, conservatives tend to start trying to pass gun control legislation to keep guns out of the hands of minorities


[24-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Source?


[24-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Opponent#3498
oooooooh this gun b gud. @Nebbie


[24-Jul-20 06:59 PM] jlun2#8758
https://calmatters.org/explainers/california-gun-laws-policy-explained/

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How California got tough on guns
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[24-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
2016? Yes. 2020 with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be and this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE

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[24-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh right, the government of California is so conservative 😂


[24-Jul-20 07:00 PM] jlun2#8758
> That soon changed. The Panthers’ efforts to “police the police” already had led Republican Assemblyman Don Mulford to propose legislation to ban the “open carry” of loaded firearms within California cities and towns. After the Panthers showed up in the Capitol, his bill sailed through and was signed by then-Gov. Ronald Reagan. (Yes, that Reagan). It’s hard to say which now seems more unlikely: that two dozen revolutionaries could legally stroll into the state Assembly chamber with semi-automatic rifles, or that a Republican governor would champion stricter gun control.


[24-Jul-20 07:00 PM] jlun2#8758
not sure if possible now tho :ponythinking:


[24-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Libatarins should be haveing alarms sound in there head as protsterrs and people on there porch get gassed and shot at


[24-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Frosku#5874
We are.


[24-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Frosku#5874
We don't like Trump or the GOP. We just think the Dems are scarier ngl.


[24-Jul-20 07:01 PM] jlun2#8758
which is why if that still works "hilariously" arming BLMers can get gun control faster


[24-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[24-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Dems really wanted cash bail gone, but used it to their advantage with Floyd etc.


[24-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm on the right, I support arming BLM protestors.


[24-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
_Now_ people are against cash bail.


[24-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Frosku#5874
Cash bail has always been wrong


[24-Jul-20 07:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/news/new-restaurant-plays-old-school-hip-hop-music-loved-neighborhoods-displaced-former-residents/

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CHICAGO — It may seem like an odd fit: farm-to-table meals served in a neighborhood once known for arson and gang activity. But the new…
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[24-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah yeah that "can't win no matter what with these neighborhoods" meme, but there's a right way to pump money and development w/o gentrifying


[24-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thing is the dems haven't don anything like Trump has so there fears are mostly unfounded


[24-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Frosku#5874
We see the mobs out there tearing down Jefferson and Washington, and we see that Dems aren't even willing to say "Stop doing that".


[24-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Obama never had cops shooting people on there porch or gassed people to go hold a bible. I am willing to say stop that.


[24-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Frosku#5874
And if they're that weak when it's politically easy, what will they do when it's politically hard?


[24-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
don't teardown statues of Jefferson and Washington and put tratior statues in a muesim


[24-Jul-20 07:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean your leaders, I have no issue with moderate Democrats, but moderate Democrats in congress, and Biden, are silent whilst these crazies run rampant.


[24-Jul-20 07:15 PM] Frosku#5874
The founding fathers should not be a political issue.


[24-Jul-20 07:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah but so is Trump when anti maskers protest for golf courses to be reopend.


[24-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/trump-americans-wear-masks-200721221912131.html

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Trump: Americans should wear masks whether they like them or not
In his first coronavirus briefing in months, Trump said the pandemic will probably get worse before it gets better.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/7/21/d9afc61060a54766b5a40297b5ba67e6_18.jpg


[24-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump has changed his tune on masks, took too long but he got there.


[24-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Took way too long. He was quite for way way too long.


[24-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump got it totally wrong on COVID, but that's hindsight.


[24-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We had Doug Ford calling anti maskers "Yahoos" from day one


[24-Jul-20 07:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because saying "stop doing that" will do anything, totally. That;s how these things work


[24-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Frosku#5874
tbh I've seen a lot less anti-mask rhetoric since their God-King Trump changed his mind.


[24-Jul-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump changed his mind because his anti mask stance was negatively effecting his numbers


[24-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I was calling out Trumps approch on COVID from day one. I'd would have stoped all flights and shipings from china as soon as Wuhan started up


[24-Jul-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He;s still throwing anti mask parties at his properties though


[24-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Frosku#5874
I was too, though it's worth remembering the Dems called him racist for cancelling travel to/from China.


[24-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah but that was a minor knee jerk reaction from a minorty tho.


[24-Jul-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also demanded all scientists return from china on passernger planes with normal civillians


[24-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.foxnews.com/world/christian-ministry-uk-death-threats

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UK Christian ministry receives death threats, loses bank accounts a...
A Christian ministry in the United Kingdom says it has received death threats and had its accounts shut down after a targeted "mob rule" campaign by LGBTQ activists falsely accused it of "conversion therapy."
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[24-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Frosku#5874
> Offering free counselling for gays/lesbians who choose to practice abstinence because of their religious beliefs is the same as conversion therapy.


[24-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Frosku#5874
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/507983-stephen-moore-optimistic-about-economy-this-was-a-good-week

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Stephen Moore optimistic about economy: 'This was a good week'
Economist Stephen Moore said Sunday that the U.S. economy had a "good week," even as the U.S continues to endure a serious resurgence of the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/moorestephen_032919youtube.png


[24-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
If the economy recovers in the next 2-3 months, Trump will pretty much guarantee a win.


[24-Jul-20 07:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's what i'm afraid of, including all those things such as voter suppression


[24-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's not going to be a vaccine until mid 2021


[24-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't safe until then


[24-Jul-20 07:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The DNC choosing Biden was a bad choice imo, his campaign is barely energetic and has no ring to it except the "return things to normal" canard


[24-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree.


[24-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Biden was, in general, a bad choice. Bernie would have been better, so would Warren or even Klobuchar if they wanted a moderate.


[24-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Yang would probably have taken my vote away from Trump, but was always an outside shot.


[24-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bernie would not have been better.


[24-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren and Klobuchar would not have been better either.


[24-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Buttigieg was a reasonable choice.

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[24-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Bernie would have lost Florida and NC but probably swept the rust belt.


[24-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah. It would have been months of "YOU CAN'T ELECT A SOCIALIST YOU'LL BE RUINED"


[24-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even though now Biden's platform is basically pseudo-socialist


[24-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, which would lead to Trump getting a massive turnout in safe states.


[24-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Frosku#5874
But in the rest of America I dont think itd hurt that much.


[24-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Most of the states in which socialism is a dirty word are already red states.


[24-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
VP really doesn't matter, unless you pick an absolute mess like Sarah Palin


[24-Jul-20 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People aren't voting for Biden, they're voting against Trump. I don't know about you, but that's not a recipe for success, and was not in 2016


[24-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Frosku#5874
If this was the 90s or any time up to 2008 I'd agree with you.


[24-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You overestimate the number of people who have negative opinions of Joe Biden.


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
It's not that they have negative opinions about him, they're just not enthusiastic about him.


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hillary had two decades of negativity built in. To paraphrase a Trump campaigner, "How can you demonize vanilla?"


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Enthusiasm drives turnout when it's cold and people have been working all day.


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the negative opinions that _really_ fucked Hillary


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Partially, but also the enthusiasm of Trumps base.


[24-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The base alone isn't enough


[24-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
And lack of enthusiasm for Hillary


[24-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was people who voted for Obama twice and hated Hillary that voted for Trump that won him the election.


[24-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
I dont know anyone who was excited for Hillary. Obama excited people.


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clinton had plenty of enthusiasm, with older people


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden has arguably a similarly fucked up track record if compared to Hillary -- he collaborated with segregationists, enthusiastically supported the war on terror, compromised with anti-choice republicans...


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh wow, a little over a week before Biden picks his VP


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I voted for Obama in 08, I was sold. Moderate economics and solid liberal values. I'll vote for that.


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Frosku#5874
He disappointed me when he basically let Big Pharma write Obamacare.


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a lot for the Trump campaign to work on to smear Biden


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder if it will be Harris or he'll pick something else


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Frosku#5874
That's where he lost me for 2012. Can't say I was thrilled by Romney either.


[24-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd prefer Tammy Duckworth.


[24-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Kamala Harris or Susan Rice, not huge fans of.


[24-Jul-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I tolerate your optimism, Its, but i don't think this rather *eerie* situation is much different from 2016


[24-Jul-20 07:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Consider that every actual Biden controversy fizzled out.


[24-Jul-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is basically the 2016 dumpster with a bigger fire and a lot of explosives


[24-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's now just "He's not all there"


[24-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or "He's controlled by AOC!" or something similar


[24-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's to the left of Obama for sure, but that's because the left-wing has gotten more left in the past decade, especially the past four years.


[24-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The progressive wing of the party is in fact larger than before, and they have pull because they can pull the "We always lose when you ignore us" card


[24-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(Bill Clinton excepted, but 1992 was a weird election)


[24-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
If I were Biden I'd probably go for KLB.


[24-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Democrats simply don't win when they don't engage with their progressive wing. It happened in the 80s, 2000, 2004, and 2016.


[24-Jul-20 07:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The progressive wing is making gains for sure, but i doubt they can make gains fast enough to dominate the party until after this year


[24-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
But only because hes decided his pick has to be a black woman which imo is dumb.


[24-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressive wing helped write Biden's platform, which already includes many progressive things


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He said woman.


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Frosku#5874
He would be better off picking someone from Florida or Arizona.


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Who is popular in that state.


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Val Demings, then. But she was chief of police so won't look good. Harris was a prosecutor, also doesn't look good.


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You need someone progressive to balance the ticket.


[24-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, I dont think Harris is a great pick tbh, she's quite divisive.


[24-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, Duckworth I think is good enough. That fight she had with Carlson really upped her political stock


[24-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Frosku#5874
Duckworth would be a bad pick though. There will be a month of TV ads highlighting her saying she's open to removing statues of George Washington and asking Americans if they're sure Biden can make it 4 years.


[24-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
All she said is that there should be a conversation.


[24-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You could pick the mayor of Atlanta if you want a more obscure pick I guess


[24-Jul-20 07:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The GOP campaign machine doesn't care about conversation and neither does the DNC one


[24-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Tammy Baldwin wouldnt be terrible either.


[24-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Frosku#5874
She's a senator, she's a woman, she's largely avoided scandal.


[24-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Frosku#5874
And she's from Wisconsin


[24-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Her main issue is being white (which is an awful reason not to pick someone), and no executive experience.


[24-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That is a big if it recovers in 2-3 months. Nearly impossble consittering it had all this time to go down. Even if it does it would maybe be back to 2016 levles if we are exreamly lucky. Now 2016 wasn't bad for the US econamy but anything Trump did has been destoryed by COVID. In the long run he hasn't done much and COVID will just get worse.  2020 election wise was decided back when Trumps daily fuck ups where the norm back 3 years ago. All COVID has done is change a soft dem victory in 2020 to a major one.


[24-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Economy won't recover for _years._


[24-Jul-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all predictions say we;re heading for a depression to rival the 1920's great depression


[24-Jul-20 08:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt surprise me if there was some form of prohibition this decade, though given current politics it might be something way dumber than alchohol


[24-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wonder how many guns people owned during 20's depression


[24-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And if there was some kind of uprising against rich people


[24-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) I refer you to support/pegasite channels :wheeze:


[24-Jul-20 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was the Bonus Army march, and numerous instances of proletarian dissatisfaction


[24-Jul-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/159513

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Guns Were Much More Strictly Regulated in the 1920s and 1930s than ...
For those who look to America’s past to extol a time when nothing stood between an American and a gun, they need to look again.
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[24-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess if there's gonna be another great depression in US its gonna be a bloodbath


[24-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it was re:something far dumber than alcohol


[24-Jul-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the current attempt at a porn prohibition


[24-Jul-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant wait until christians retake tv and everything is a scooby doo clone again


[24-Jul-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or andy griffith, but worse and more cringy


[24-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Marches[45]#0674
There are people who want to bring back the Hayes Code.


[24-Jul-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh good


[24-Jul-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as much as i enjoy andy griffith, trying to make tv like that again would go really badly


[24-Jul-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
24/7 channels with Big Bang Theory and BBT ripoffs


[24-Jul-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*laugh track*


[24-Jul-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the 24/7 fullhouse network


[24-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Marches[45]#0674
F.R.I.E.N.D.S. but with characters of color.


[24-Jul-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we can call it T.O.L.K.E.N F.R.I.E.N.D.S


[24-Jul-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that's how it will be written


[24-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Pontology#1010

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[24-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Pontology#1010
Oh the unbelievable irony. It is too much irony to bear.


[24-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not irony, the concept simply took time to crystallise and some rash decisions were made in the meantime.


[24-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Misguided moral crusade against "bad artwork" is what's irony.


[24-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what I meant. Derp wasn't ready for the attack initially, so there was no decision to take a specific stand. Now, after admittedly arduous process, there is one.


[24-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Opponent#3498
shush. Let me believe in people at least a little bit.


[24-Jul-20 09:23 PM] Pontology#1010
No.

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[24-Jul-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
im kinda forced to believe in others or else i have to do **everything** myself which ew :shrugpony:


[24-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508929-police-investigating-fire-at-arizona-democratic-party-headquarters

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Police investigating fire at Arizona Democratic Party headquarters
Arizona authorities are investigating a fire at the state Democratic Party headquarters in Phoenix that caused significant damage Friday morning.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/arizonastateflag_07242020getty.jpg


[24-Jul-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3094464/donald-trump-tells-vladimir-putin-he-hopes-avoid-us

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Trump tells Putin he hopes to avoid US-Russia-China nuclear arms race
Beijing has so far rejected pressure to join Washington and Moscow in talks, citing its smaller arsenal.
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[24-Jul-20 09:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tripolar world order baby


[24-Jul-20 09:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man, Fukuyama must be so embarrassed these days


[24-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
why?


[24-Jul-20 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dude who boldly wrote a book about history having ended after the collapse of the Soviet Union and "end" of the Cold War


[24-Jul-20 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Has ammended his discourse several times since recent developments, is recently saying he "might have been wrong"

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[24-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[24-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[24-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc3vAdsiPV4

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Sneed's Feed and Seed
Okay. I've fucking had it with this shit. We haven't had a good Simpsons thread in ages and it's time we did something about it. I beg you: mods, janitors and anyone with the power to change this situation. Put pressure on Hiro. Nothing short of a word filter on "Sneed" will s...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zc3vAdsiPV4/maxresdefault.jpg


[24-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I chuckled


[24-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Formerly sneedled


[24-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
All this drama over porn


[24-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I just want to look at scootalove .p scootalove


[24-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
.p scootalove


[24-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[24-Jul-20 10:06 PM] byte[]#2610
Caw

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[24-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I also want to just look at crows


[24-Jul-20 10:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and scootalove


[24-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:Hugs: :caw:


[24-Jul-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/07/24/potential-second-stimulus-check-confirmed-in-gop-proposal-but-not-1200-amount-or-75000-income-cap-stimulus-package-update/

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Second Stimulus Check Confirmed In GOP Proposal, But Not $1,200 Amo...
The odds are now in American’s favor for a second stimulus check to be included in the next stimulus package; however, whether the payments are for $1,200 or less has yet to be confirmed and whether the income eligibility will remain the same as under the CARES Act is still te...
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[24-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Less plz, time to reopen


[24-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.foxnews.com/media/wsj-editorial-board-cancel-culture-criticism

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WSJ Editorial Board says it won’t 'wilt under cancel-culture pressu...
The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board responded Friday to pushback from staffers about the paper's opinion section and diversity in their newsroom, declaring that "we are not the New York Times" and that it will not succumb to "cancel culture."
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/07/readers.jpg


[24-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cancel culture cannot just become "People disagree with me"


[24-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cancel culture is digging up a 10 year tweet of someone who saved a kitten from a fire that had a racist joke

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[24-Jul-20 11:58 PM] Frosku#5874
Cancel culture is just inappropriate boycotting.


[24-Jul-20 11:58 PM] jlun2#8758
has young people learned to never use their own name on social media ever yet?


[24-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't "Hey, isn't the guy who said to kill all the Jews a third grade teacher?"


[24-Jul-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
because a decade from now zoomers are getting fucked


[24-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Frosku#5874
No, it's "I don't agree with this relatively mainstream opinion, so I'm going to stir up a mob against it or get someone fired."


[24-Jul-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As I like to say


[25-Jul-20 12:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Snitching isn't illegal. We live in a society of Randalls (Recess or Monster's Inc, take your pick)


[25-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When people want to get ahead by any means necessary, this happens.


[25-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Frosku#5874
No one said it was illegal -- illegal really isn't a good barometer for right & wrong.


[25-Jul-20 12:01 AM] Frosku#5874
You can do all manner of horrific things without breaking any laws.


[25-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know, but my mind goes there when I think about what if any solution there could be for this.


[25-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And most everything would interfere with speech too much.


[25-Jul-20 12:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Oh, there's a pretty easily solution


[25-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Any company that bows to the mob gets mass boycotted until they get their shit together.


[25-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or make terminations for-cause only


[25-Jul-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And someone disliking your employee online is not for cause


[25-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Frosku#5874
I actually wouldn't be against making firing people for what they say off the clock illegal.


[25-Jul-20 12:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But that interferes with the right for them to run a business as they want. What if it's a Muslim-owned business and they find out a worker posts online about how Muslims are all ISIS?


[25-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean if we want people to be able to run businesses how they want, I assume "no dogs, no blacks, no Irish" is fine?


[25-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Your opinion isn't a protected class.


[25-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Frosku#5874
So you want people to be able to run businesses how they want, but not when it contraverts how you think they should run their business?


[25-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Unless it is in DC, or you're of the opinion that you need a union and express it, etc)


[25-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's almost like I want the rights of business owners to be balanced against the rights of the public or something.


[25-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Frosku#5874
So you have a right to shop at a business but not a right to work? These rights seem pretty arbitrary..


[25-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh man, you'd flip at that recent SCOTUS decision


[25-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember that gay cake decision, where the business owner didn't have to make the gay cake b/c religion?


[25-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[25-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like a month ago SCOTUS said you cannot fire employees because of their sexual orientation


[25-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So that store couldn't fire someone who works there, and comes out


[25-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
```You can do all manner of horrific things without breaking any laws.```


[25-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm generally okay with the idea that you can't fire people for just being who they are.


[25-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
this describes current western culture quite well. Not the ideals perhaps, but practice.


[25-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
if it's legal, it's moral.


[25-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Frosku#5874
I think that *is* ideal -- that legality doesn't enforce morality, I know that might sound counter-intuitive.


[25-Jul-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
use the law as a sword, not a shield.


[25-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Frosku#5874
The purpose of the law is to protect other peoples' (negative) rights, not to enforce a moral code.


[25-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Opponent#3498
ideals are irrelevant if the society at large doesn't live by them. Which they don't and don't plan to.


[25-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Frosku#5874
The main issue is that we've basically decided for whatever reason that religion (which is an opinion) is protected, but politics isn't.


[25-Jul-20 12:12 AM] Frosku#5874
I can't be fired for saying "homosexuality is a sin" if I cite my religion, but I can be if I just say it's gross. It's wildly inconsistent.


[25-Jul-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
you can't be fired for saying 'homosexuality is a sin'. You can be fired for 'uhhh, we just knew it was time to part ways, you know?' which would curiously coincide with you saying 'homosexuality is a sin'.


[25-Jul-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's just pure coincidence. Funny how life works eh?


[25-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
not many are dumb enough to state an actual reason for firing as going against current woke trend.


[25-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-cut-away-from-disturbing-portland-video-wh-briefing-2020-7

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Trump's press secretary aired a propagandalike video of Portland pr...
"We were not expecting that video, and our management here at Fox News has decided we will cut away at this time," host Harris Faulkner said.
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[25-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Frosku#5874
This is the part I find hilarious, like... there is no trend of firing gay people for coming out.


[25-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You can change your political stance on a whim.


[25-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Frosku#5874
If it was happening, I expect the woke media would be all over it, but you never hear about it. It's like we've somehow gone all the way to the SCOTUS to fight a straw man.


[25-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You could be a Republican today, Democrat tomorrow, fascist the next day etc


[25-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Frosku#5874
You could be a Christian today, atheist tomorrow, Hindu the next day.


[25-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Religion is more worthy of protection


[25-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Why?


[25-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Absolutely fundamental right, innately connected to culture


[25-Jul-20 12:17 AM] Frosku#5874
Politics is innately connected to culture, and the right to free expression is protected in the same constitutional amendment that freedom of religion is.


[25-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Frosku#5874
So what we need to do is to create the Trumpist religion, which believes in all of Trump's policies. Then, if we're fired, we can claim religious persecution.


[25-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Frosku#5874
:bigbrain:

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[25-Jul-20 12:18 AM] Pontology#1010
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-e-has-lost-half-its-viewers-since-dropping-live-pd-11595588402

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A&E Has Lost Half Its Viewers Since Dropping ‘Live PD’
Ratings for A&E Network have plummeted since it canceled the hit police reality show “Live PD” on June 10, a sign of how much the network relies on law-enforcement programming.
https://images.wsj.net/im-212529/social


[25-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Probably the most costly virtue signal yet.


[25-Jul-20 12:19 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, let it all burn.


[25-Jul-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only genuine way to express an opinion is to say it in under 200 words and not allow anyone to engage with you. Everything else is virtue signaling.


[25-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Frosku the virus is geting worse reopening is not an option. Needs to be a bigger check and more oftin.


[25-Jul-20 12:21 AM] Frosku#5874
The only genuine way to express an opinion these days is anonymously.

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[25-Jul-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reopening now would just result in a far larger shut down later


[25-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Pontology#1010
@Frosku yes https://www.cato.org/publications/survey-reports/poll-62-americans-say-they-have-political-views-theyre-afraid-share

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Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid...
50% of strong liberals support firing Trump donors, 36% of strong conservatives support firing Biden donors; 32% are worried about missing out on job opportunities because of their political opinions
https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/styles/optimized/public/2020-07/202007_speech_poll.jpg?itok=KcuFYGfQ


[25-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Frosku#5874
We an reopen with social distancing and widespread mask wearing.


[25-Jul-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that might work if we didnt have total morons fucking that up for everyone


[25-Jul-20 12:23 AM] Frosku#5874
Shutdown was needed to understand how the virus spreads. If we can keep R < 1 we can reopen.


[25-Jul-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
It's now a mainstream political opinion to believe the virus response is a liberal hoax


[25-Jul-20 12:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And the virus is ganing speed with this


[25-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Highly doubt that. Source.


[25-Jul-20 12:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people go out fo their way to cough and sneeze on other people and produce while not wearing a mask


[25-Jul-20 12:25 AM] Pontology#1010
Certainly, some of it is anti-religious bigotry https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/judge-blocks-new-york-from-enforcing-some-restrictions-on-religious-gatherings/2487145/

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Judge Blocks New York From Enforcing Some Restrictions on Religious...
A federal judge on Friday issued an injunction blocking New York from enforcing restrictions on outdoor religious gatherings, and from limiting indoor religious gatherings any further than any other industry that is part of Phase 2 of the state’s reopening plan. The ruling is ...
https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2019/09/catholic-church-generic-112619.jpg?resize=1200%2C675


[25-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean it's also a mainstream political opinion to believe rednecks are more privileged than sons of black millionaires. What can I say? People gave up on thought a while ago.


[25-Jul-20 12:26 AM] Pontology#1010
So people may be referring to that, how things like stores and offices could re-open at 50% capacity but churches and synagogues at only 25% capacity (which a judge blocked)


[25-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wow, so you're telling me a store you're in for ten minutes tops can reopen quicker than a place where you're crowded around people for hours?


[25-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mindblowing.


[25-Jul-20 12:27 AM] Frosku#5874
They're banning *outdoor*, *socially-distanced* religious gatherings. Did you not read it?


[25-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Not just stores, but also offices @Itsthinking


[25-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Where people are crowded for, you know, the whole work day. It was clear anti-religious discrimination. Which is why the federal judge blocked it.


[25-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Frosku#5874
Also this might surprise people who aren't religious, but a lot of us go to church/synagogue outside of mass gatherings, to sit alone and talk to God.


[25-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Isn't God everywhere?


[25-Jul-20 12:28 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[25-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Frosku#5874
But we associate those places with spirituality, so they are the natural destination sometimes. It's complicated.


[25-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Frosku#5874
You can go to a church any time of day or night for sanctuary. They're not just open on sundays.


[25-Jul-20 12:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I'm generally of the opinion that there should still be stay at home orders and all but the absolute essential should remain closed


[25-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Medical emergencies, food (preferably delivery only) and the like.


[25-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm generally of the opinion that we should re-open but ban people who refuse to wear masks from public & enclosed places.


[25-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Sure. I'm just saying, there have been some clear and federally ruled upon anti-religious bias in some of the judicially overturned lockdown laws in places like NYC.


[25-Jul-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wont stop them


[25-Jul-20 12:30 AM] Frosku#5874
So fine them $10,000


[25-Jul-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that implies they pay off their fines


[25-Jul-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should ban facebook so they can't communicate with eachother

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[25-Jul-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a joke about facebook conspiracy theory groups


[25-Jul-20 12:36 AM] byte[]#2610
jokes are supposed to be funny


[25-Jul-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that missed the mark


[25-Jul-20 12:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/millions-could-lose-homes-as-federal-eviction-ban-ends-2020-7

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The federal ban on evictions ends today, leaving nearly 28 million ...
The coronavirus crisis prompted states and the federal government to ban eviction so people don't lose their homes. Those bans are now expiring.
https://i.insider.com/5f1b2fbe2618b9432a7e7649?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jul-20 12:38 AM] jlun2#8758
so does this mean more poor ppl for orange party


[25-Jul-20 12:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ban face book tbh full of anti vaxxers and anti maskers


[25-Jul-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
poor people don't vote


[25-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[25-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Legit, if you think it's impossible to remember history without a statue when said history is available through other sources, you're stupid.


[25-Jul-20 12:56 AM] byte[]#2610
statues of people belong in museums


[25-Jul-20 01:00 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Statues of dictators belong smashed out on the street.


[25-Jul-20 01:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Statues of traitors belong in museums


[25-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Opponent#3498
today's traitor is tommorow's hero. Political thought changes, and even if not you can always use it for other means.


[25-Jul-20 01:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Statues aren't for remembering history. They're for commemorating the ideas—represented by the people who espoused them.


[25-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Pontology#1010
And continuing forward that ideological cultural trajectory.


[25-Jul-20 01:06 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm very rarely in favour of destroying anything. Hold onto shit, move it out of sight if you want to but hold onto it.


[25-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is there a thing like hall of damned for statues of bad people?


[25-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Build a statue to freedom.


[25-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not a statue to a shitty guy who happened to cause more freedom.


[25-Jul-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
if not there should be. @Эᴚ|∫ that's pretty brilliant.


[25-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Marches[45]#0674
> Statues aren't for remembering history. They're for commemorating the ideas—represented by the people who espoused them.
@Pontology Yet that's consistently the talking point used to defend them.


[25-Jul-20 01:12 AM] illumnious#7938
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[25-Jul-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Pontology#1010
@Marches[45] It's the commonly used talking point by the defenders of confederate statues, and I think it's disingenuous. The defenders of statues of Thomas Jefferson, Ghandi, and MLK tend to argue from the standpoint of commemorating and culturally preserving the ideas they represent.


[25-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Pontology#1010

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[25-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Pontology#1010
>going after interspecies shipping
Wait a second. So Patreon is fine with pony-on-pony, but not fine with species-mixing?


[25-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Pontology#1010
This is incredibly based, in the pony context they're opposed to "interracial" shipping (e.g. pony+zebra)


[25-Jul-20 01:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Wtf I love progressives now.


[25-Jul-20 01:39 AM] wren#0114
it's more humanxpony, humanxanthro, or anthroxpony


[25-Jul-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
but also yes, poner x zeeb is also taboo now :wheeze:


[25-Jul-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-defends-confederate-monuments-as-gop-labels-protesters-secessionists-2020-7

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Trump is defending Confederate monuments as his GOP allies compare ...
The president's allies are trying to portray anti-racism protesters and their agenda that opposes the Trump administration as traitorous.
https://i.insider.com/5f1b4704f0f419321747cad8?width=1200&format=jpeg


[25-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure at least California explicitly called for secession.


[25-Jul-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently california tried to secede from itself atleast 100 times


[25-Jul-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.library.ca.gov/collections/online-exhibits/splitting-ca/


[25-Jul-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
entirely unsuprising.


[25-Jul-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically the state keeps trying to do the north/south thing carolina, dakota and virginia have going, but the supreme court will not let them


[25-Jul-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Under Article IV, Section III of the United States Constitution, “no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.” The last state to successfully go through this process was West Virginia in 1863, which broke off from Virginia.


[25-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of it is GOP activism


[25-Jul-20 02:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So instead of California having two Dem senators, The three Californias would probably have 4-5 Dem and 1-2 GOP senators


[25-Jul-20 02:25 AM] JC Denton#7076
😂

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[25-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Frosku#5874
I did snicker a little 😂


[25-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people do consider there to be a difference between hate speech and "icky porn"
Though clearly it's a nuance lost on many


[25-Jul-20 02:39 AM] JC Denton#7076
Come on now, meanwhile it's ok to post an image saying "kill all cops" or "kill anyone making over $30,000 a year" and no one bats an eye


[25-Jul-20 02:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I seem to have lost my sight, there is too much straw flying in the air


[25-Jul-20 02:41 AM] JC Denton#7076
Don't even get me started on all the underage sex which probably got derpi deplatformed in the first place


[25-Jul-20 02:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent there traitors who wanted to enslave people. Bad then and bad now.


[25-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Icky porn"


[25-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbh normies do consider it among the worst


[25-Jul-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[25-Jul-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@JC Denton > "kill anyone making over 30.000 a year"
Who the fuck is advocating for that


[25-Jul-20 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No one's coming for your average middle class house bro


[25-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
His straw man is advocateing for that


[25-Jul-20 03:06 AM] illumnious#7938
Trump's convention cancellation is costing GOP donors millions https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-convention-cancellation-costing-gop-donors-millions-n1234896

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Trump's convention cancellation is costing GOP donors millions
Of the $38 million raised by the host committee for Charlotte, North Carolina, most has been spent, according to Republicans familiar with the finances.
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[25-Jul-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eat the average middle class!


[25-Jul-20 03:07 AM] illumnious#7938
Please say sole


[25-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
A fool and his money are soon parted


[25-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
let's all take a moment and pray to Saint Floyd

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[25-Jul-20 03:08 AM] illumnious#7938
Wut


[25-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Serenity#9645
please saint floyd give me the courage to do a lot of elicit substances and hold up pregnant females by gunpoint!


[25-Jul-20 03:08 AM] illumnious#7938
No context


[25-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What the fuck


[25-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Floyd didn't do any of that. He alagagdly had fake money and was murdered by police.


[25-Jul-20 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
It’s called no context darling


[25-Jul-20 03:11 AM] JC Denton#7076
he's been drug free for 2 months give him some slack ok


[25-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Serenity#9645

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[25-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Serenity#9645
also autopsy did report he had illicent substances in his system, but it is usually overstated how much


[25-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/ also source

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The question of past arrests often surfaces among people who want to rationalize police officers' actions when Black men are killed in custody.
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[25-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like a perfectly justifiable reason to choke the life out of someone over 8 minutes according to half the voting populating I guess


[25-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Serenity#9645
now when did i ever say that?


[25-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
His last crime was in 2007


[25-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Serenity#9645
i just said he isnt a saint, i never said the officer was justified


[25-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That doesn't excuse his murderers from what they did.


[25-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Serenity#9645
read above


[25-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
oh and the Toxicology report : https://youtu.be/xRoqSyIi-98

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[25-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Serenity#9645
is it possible that he doesnt need to die, but also not be the beacon of light?


[25-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno dude, that sounds like nuance


[25-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's fucking forbidden these days

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[25-Jul-20 03:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Who ever said he was a beacon of light


[25-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I never said he was, I was just skeptical about what you said.


[25-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Serenity#9645
conflating jesus with gorge floyd, im not even Christian and i find that insulting


[25-Jul-20 03:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Being a police officer is a choice; being a marginalized and unfairly treated lumpenproletarian like Floyd is not


[25-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Serenity ok


[25-Jul-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think that was satire


[25-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But he was inosent of this crime and was coprateing with police


[25-Jul-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I too don't really think Floyd was worthy enough as to be called Jesus, but he is surely representative of a people -- and a people with very legitimate grievances


[25-Jul-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfunny satire, but satire none the less


[25-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and was murdered by a cop. He isn't Jesus but he was murdred.


[25-Jul-20 03:20 AM] Serenity#9645
again please tell me where i said his death was justified, i kinda you know said it wasnt


[25-Jul-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk man, but it's just that the vast majority of people pointing at Floyd's criminal record are bootlickers trying to smear the BLM cause. I wouldn't accuse you of being one, but just keep that in mind


[25-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I allready said that you said his death wasn't justified


[25-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just bringing up the facts again that he was murdred by cops for allgagly useing fake money.


[25-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Becuse that is fucked up.


[25-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah it is


[25-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Serenity#9645
there are plenty of things that are fucked up in the world, his death is fucked up, him holding a gun to a pregnant females stomach is fucked up. 2 wrongs dont make a right tho


[25-Jul-20 03:24 AM] illumnious#7938

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[25-Jul-20 03:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Serenity source for that claim?


[25-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Serenity#9645

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[25-Jul-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i tend to abhor not isolated incidents but masses, ideologies and general societal patterns of repression, so eh


[25-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Serenity#9645
linked in the snopes article


[25-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Serenity#9645
as for 2 wrongs dont make a right, thats just personal feeling if you ment that


[25-Jul-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Floyd was already part of a group of people stereotyped as unsalvageable criminals and thugs, hardly someone with any power over society at large unlike billionaires and politicians in general


[25-Jul-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Assaulting a pregnant woman is fucked up, yes, but it was not Floyd that was responsible for the phenomenon of crime as a whole


[25-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Serenity#9645
so wait it didnt matter if i gave a source?


[25-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Didnt you give a sourse allready


[25-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Serenity#9645
yep


[25-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So he read that and accepted it as a source meaning the sourse did matter


[25-Jul-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Make no excuses, none of us are in favor of letting armed poor people assault pregnant women, we just don't think repression and mass incarceration is the way to solve it


[25-Jul-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Modern bourgeois justice is way too focused on petty revenge


[25-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Serenity#9645
my point is he already had his opinion fixed if the source was true or not, thus it didnt matter


[25-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Assault is bad the American prison system is worse and murder is even worse


[25-Jul-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah i was just trying to guarantee it wasn't a fake story, those do pop up tbh


[25-Jul-20 03:33 AM] JC Denton#7076
nah he just shifted the goalposts after you posted the source lol


[25-Jul-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok Deus Ex clown avatar


[25-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or you know he didn't see it at first


[25-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The sourse is a bit up there and he might just be reading the newest chat


[25-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Then he did read your sourse and made a diffrent arugment


[25-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse the sourse did matter. If it was fake he would have shifted his argument


[25-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Serenity#9645
he was in the conversation before i was and as i dont agree with alot of inner workings of alot of things like prision systems and no one ever will fully agree, murder and violent assult are not things i want to be walking around without alot of therpy and trust in reform to not be violent, whether its a poor person running and using drugs or a leader of a countries son.


[25-Jul-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well to top it all off none of this would happen under a better system, as the government (read, the people) would focus on collectively ensuring George Floyd would have a meaningful, productive life in society
The better system obviously being :communism:

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[25-Jul-20 03:40 AM] JC Denton#7076
Oh yes they treated my great grandparents real well in the USSR


[25-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Serenity#9645
seriously cant tell if thats satire or not. but he did have a choice run drugs violently or work a honest job even if it was nonviolent running drugs id take that well over the former.


[25-Jul-20 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@JC Denton communism is not a state of affairs to be established, just the real movement to abolish the present state of things


[25-Jul-20 03:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The USSR was not *communist* despite claiming to be and i can prove it tbh


[25-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Serenity#9645
true communism has never been tried, but i still dont stand for the violent revolution to make sure everyone is with the party


[25-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Serenity#9645
if going by the manifesto is anything


[25-Jul-20 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's a difference between party and bureaucracy


[25-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its not really much of a choice tbh. It's more maybe you'll get hired maybe not beacuse employment is fucked over for people just starting out.


[25-Jul-20 03:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Soviet Union had a revolutionary party at the beginning, owing its creation to it, but slowly the CP began to become merely a pact between the bureaucratic elites of the state


[25-Jul-20 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was arguably inevitable -- Russia wasn't where Marx and Lenin originally thought the revolution would successfully concretize


[25-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Serenity#9645
thats how most revolutions go cant say it cant ever happen just disagree with the means and stability


[25-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Most but not all


[25-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember Ghandi


[25-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ghandi was no saint


[25-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was a nationalist, racist, castist


[25-Jul-20 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Today, a revolution might play out differently from the 1917-1920 wave though -- so much more of the world (China, Africa, and the former USSR proper) has been proletarianized that a revolutionary wave "contaminating" this class would be much more strongly felt


[25-Jul-20 03:46 AM] JC Denton#7076
#Ghandiisoverparty


[25-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He just figured out running against a wall of guns was a losing war and played the PR game


[25-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Serenity#9645
well nationalism isnt exactly bad, canada has a nationalistic left wing government that takes pride in not being the us, and many people look upto them


[25-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, maybe not losing in the long run, but at least expensive


[25-Jul-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nationalist and left wing don't combine much well together -- the left is essentially internationalist in my opinion and any attempt at nationalism is inherently bourgeois and brings out the usual problems


[25-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Blind nationalism is on the same level as football club rivalries


[25-Jul-20 03:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that bourgeois "socdem" nationalism isn't necessary for a few rural nations around tho


[25-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Invisible lines and definitions to other people


[25-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Serenity#9645
i do agree it can be blinding but it can also help form a identity that the residents like, well inviting more people that like the identity


[25-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Serenity#9645
canada is very proud of the leaf, but many people say they are polite and anything but racist and exclusive. thats their identity


[25-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whether or not you help another person out of the mud shouldn't depend on the physical location they were born in or the race/nationality of their parents


[25-Jul-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's a complicated question, but i don't think culture is immutable or inherent to certain peoples. It arises from the material needs and organization patterns of a people


[25-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Canada has a pretty bad history of racism against asians and native americans


[25-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But Canada has a lot of good PR just for being "America but not as bad"


[25-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Serenity#9645
i wasnt quoteing history


[25-Jul-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man i just crave for some more native american influence upon our culture -- the US seemingly has none besides state names and the usual boomer citing his genetic heritage number


[25-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Serenity#9645
its like saying germanys identity now is nazi


[25-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't fall into the meme that native americans were all nice folk in tune with nature


[25-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pueblo cultures were rife with human torture, various eastern tribes hunted eachother for sport, the mezo americans thought human sacrifice and slavery was the bomb


[25-Jul-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, i'm not for the usual commodified view of what native american culture is like and i'm well aware that there are multiple native american groups


[25-Jul-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I just... feel like there could be more influence, you know


[25-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Serenity#9645
take away most of the worst crimes and rezervations are very very exclusive and racist


[25-Jul-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As we see it today there's way too little respect


[25-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well you can get a dream catcher at wal*mart I guess


[25-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Made in China


[25-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Serenity#9645
if a native friend takes you there, you still might be beat up and ive gotten a ticket for being a passenger in a car well the native was speeding lol


[25-Jul-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Culture isn't just material culture, it can be the occasional religious beliefs and practices, language, among all that stuff


[25-Jul-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also you have to keep on mind that reservations are a result of the system we live in


[25-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Serenity#9645
ask anyone that left the rez they left it because they are usually super racist and exclusive to LGBT+


[25-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Serenity#9645
they make their own laws well getting funds from the government lol


[25-Jul-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A better society would remove the reservarions, integrate the natives directly into its production of culture and treat them with equality once and for all


[25-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Serenity#9645
recently a murderer and a child rapist got set free because they were detained and the area was then turned into a rez


[25-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
"Don't fall into the meme that native americans were all nice folk in tune with nature"

@Teaspoon making a based point here. Similar to most peoples at the time, the fundamental ideas that we judge through now just didn't exist at the time.


[25-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not even to say they were 'bad' people in context -- just that ideas like human rights don't exist in a vacuum, they are created by humans.


[25-Jul-20 03:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, my point exactly


[25-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Serenity#9645
also they dont want to be governed by the us, they dont want to intregrate, they can leave at any time, they are us citizens anyways. many do so they can have rights not given to them


[25-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
Throughout most of history man lived with the understanding that what man had the might to do, he had the right to do.


[25-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Frosku#5874
I usually draw the line at ethno-nationalism vs civic nationalism. If your idea of nationhood is shared values and shared history (or at least general support for the history of the nation, if not a stake in it) then nationalism isn't inherently bad.


[25-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Frosku#5874
If your idea of nationhood is an indellible characteristic then... I don't think that's a healthy ideology.


[25-Jul-20 04:01 AM] JC Denton#7076
Everyone 100+ years ago looks awful by today's comparison. Lincoln was no saint either


[25-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Lincoln was a tyrant even by 1860s standards, but some would argue that the ends justified the means.


[25-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Serenity#9645
people 10 years ago look aweful now too


[25-Jul-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lincoln was problematic as a figure but i generally defend his cause of abolition because freeing the slaves integrated them into the proletarian class


[25-Jul-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i'm all for making the proletarian class dummy thicc so, good on him


[25-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, jailed journalists, and ordered extrajudicial executions. None of this was acceptable in 1860s USA.


[25-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Frosku#5874
We had habeas corpus, the first amendment, and the right to a fair trial. They were suspended under war powers.


[25-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Frosku#5874
I expect had Lincoln not been assassinated, he would not be judged as kindly by history as he is tbh, which isn't to say he didn't do great things.


[25-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
Just to say that even 'heroes' are flawed -- Churchill is another great example.


[25-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Serenity#9645
MLK even has alot of things that isnt ok by todays society


[25-Jul-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not sure but maaaaaybe Lincoln living longer could have given the reconstruction government some more resolve at upholding objectives such as the enfranchisement of black people, but well, capitalist interests kinda inevitably led to Jim Crow


[25-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That donor map is cool.


[25-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Frosku#5874
Churchill did an awful lot wrong, he was a chauvenist, a racist, an imperialist, but he also led the fight against the greatest tyranny the world has probably ever known.


[25-Jul-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It was not in the interest of either the northern or southern bourgeoisie to have the black proles unite with the white proles, so they upheld Jim Crow, segregation and racist propaganda to keep them away from each other


[25-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
That sounds like revisionism, if true why wasn't Jim Crow upheld in the north, where there was vastly more capital than in the reconstructionist south?


[25-Jul-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because there weren't as many black people in the north iirc


[25-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
I think generally capitalists were more supportive of integration, especially in education, than the population at large.


[25-Jul-20 04:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But northern capitalists did support Jim Crow or more oftenly just tolerate it -- it was in their interests to do so


[25-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Frosku#5874
Some did, many railed against it.


[25-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't think the primary driving force for segregation was capitalism. It was moral views about racial purity.


[25-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Serenity#9645
today people support segregation, some just tolerate it, some vocally fight it


[25-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Interesting.

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[25-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
Weirdly, some of the biggest supporters of segregation today are the SJWs.


[25-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Serenity#9645
thats what i was hinting at


[25-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
Even if you assume the capitalist only cares about profits, segregation isn't good for him. More unskilled labor means lower labor prices.


[25-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
More customers means more sales


[25-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Serenity#9645
we want segregation for test scores, race x only business, race x spaces, ect.


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Even if you assume the capitalist only cares about profits
But you have to


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the point of capitalism


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If that isn't the only thing they care about, they aren't capitalists


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I tire of minorities railing against the stuff the Civil Rights Movement believed they should have the rights to do without fear of retribution.


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
If you assume I'm a bar owner, even the most racist bar owner in the world, but capitalism is a bigger driving force than racism, there's no way I'd advocate for laws that shut out 20-30% of my potential customers.


[25-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You need to find some other term


[25-Jul-20 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Iron ore miners and iron and steel workers did not establish the same tradition of interracial unionism during this period. The Metal Trades Council of Birmingham concentrated its efforts exclusively on skilled workers, ignoring black workers who comprised nearly one-half of the steel and iron workers and 70 percent of the ore miners. Given the unwritten racial quota on occupational mobility and the slowness of technological change in the iron and steel industry, black workers remained unskilled and, therefore, unorganized. In the iron ore mines, mass industrial organizing efforts were not only met with force and violence, but company officials used racist propaganda to keep black and white workers divided. Attempted strikes in 1918 and 1919 left the nascent industrial organizing campaign in shambles, and hundreds of dedicated union men, black and white, were blacklisted during the years that followed.16


[25-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Well people could simultaneously be capitalists and hold other driving ideological factors, that's my point. But the capitalist driving force alone wouldn't support segregation.


[25-Jul-20 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> On the other hand, few white Alabamians even entertained the idea of becoming Communists. Anti-Communist propaganda, rooted in popular myths and indisputably couched in the language of race, proved a mighty deterrent to Southern white support for the CP. “Social equality” was such a potent, all-encompassing anti-Communist slogan that the Party's demand for black self-determination, with its separatist implication, was surprisingly ignored in the Southern press or in the various forms of Southern anti-Communist propaganda. The cry of social equality, with all its multiple (specifically sexual) meanings and apparent ambiguities, was particularly effective because it symbolized the ultimate threat to white supremacy, class power, civilization, and Southern rulers’ most precious property—white women. Headlines appeared in Birmingham's newspapers that read, “Communists Tell Negroes to Force Social Equality throughout the South” or “Negroes Are Urged to Get Social Equality.” Leaders of the Birmingham Trades and Labor Council responded similarly, using the local labor press to wage an all-out war against Communism. The Labor Advocate labeled Communists agitators from Moscow who “openly preach social equality for the Black race. . . . Any man who seeks to disturb the relations between the races is a dangerous character, and should be squelched NOW.”52


[25-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't think most people are attracted to communism @BadgingBadger🦄🌈. That's kinda my point. Even most proles.


[25-Jul-20 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> The November 7 demonstration was the largest Communist-led demonstration in Alabama's history, attracting an overwhelmingly black crowd of five to seven thousand. As people gathered outside the Jefferson County courthouse, Wirt Taylor, a white Birmingham-born Communist, and Alice Burke were carted away by police. The arrests failed to dampen the enthusiasm of the growing crowd, which was dominated by a vocal group of black women carrying baskets, bags, and the belief that food would be distributed to the protesters. Mary Leonard led an interracial delegation to meet with Jimmie Jones and present the unemployed councils’ demands for food and cash relief and unrestricted voting rights for all citizens. Jones, who was surrounded by police officers, ignored the delegation's demands and merely questioned Leonard as to whether or not she believed in social equality. When she replied that blacks were “just as good as you and I,” Jones asked the group to leave, and the police began to disperse the crowd outside.


[25-Jul-20 04:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Outraged middle-class black leaders, clergymen, and white liberals blamed white Communists for the incident, asserting that armed resistance on the part of black sharecroppers and tenants was unnatural.


[25-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
You can't just assume that anyone who's working class is going to find communism appealing. Most don't.


[25-Jul-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Source: Fred W. Morrison, was gonna paste a link to it but it doesn't seem to work


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Communism is such a boogeyman


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone knows it doesn't work, it assumes people are good


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku they can be gradually persuaded to accept it through enrolling them in class struggle


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] JC Denton#7076
Nah dude I can find the time to read about council communism while working in a coal mine just fine


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And people are not good


[25-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's why capitalism is a success


[25-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't like to use the black & white good vs bad dichotomy. I think most people are fairly greedy (though not necessarily for themselves, the greed usually extends to doing the best for their own families)


[25-Jul-20 04:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In fact, i'd say that communism is a *tendency* for working class people as class struggle intensifies -- right now there are numerous strikes occuring every single day in practically every country you can point to in a map, it's just that the media has no interest in reporting them


[25-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
I just don't think we're evolved to belong to a tribe much bigger than an extended family.


[25-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every system that's called itself "communist" has just been an autocracy peddling something that sounds benign and popular to asset itself


[25-Jul-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sorry guys but Anton Pannekoek and Pyotr Kropotkin to a lesser extent proves yall technically wrong on this


[25-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Tragedy of the commons being observed in practice is pretty good evidence of this. We can share a garden with a few neighbors without ruining it, but we can't share an ocean without polluting it to death.


[25-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Communism _will never work_ so long as space, matter, and energy are not abundantly available without effort

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[25-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Serenity#9645
theres also people rioting under the banner, they dont get reported so the movement doesnt look bad by using violence


[25-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And we are millennia away from that pipe dream


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
Yep


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] JC Denton#7076
Communism works in Star Trek because of aforementioned unlimited resources


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Serenity#9645
star trek isnt communist tho


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] JC Denton#7076
I thought The Federation was


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
But also, in a post-scarcity situation, communism works but isn't actually needed, because all prices would tend to zero.


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Synfag#9241
communisim needs an endless resource stream to work
that's a ridiculous dependency


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's not to say that people should just give up and go full anarcho-capitalists


[25-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed


[25-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes you should, everyone give up and join me! Read Ayn Rand <3

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[25-Jul-20 04:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1912/marxism-darwinism.htm#S4


[25-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not actually ancap


[25-Jul-20 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Funny yall are saying communism means unlimited leisure because Marx once stated that in it "he who does not work shall not eat"


[25-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
I see ancap as a utopia, a lot like post-scarcity space communism.


[25-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Serenity#9645
the endgoal for any economical system is utopia, just some understand it cant be achived


[25-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, post-scarcity, almost all systems would mean unlimited leisure, because price would always tend to zero.


[25-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not sure 'economics' as a school of thought would even be relevant in that situation.


[25-Jul-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post-scarcity, yes, but even in scarcity scenarios might communism work if people living in it have the interests of society in mind and not theirs alone


[25-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If there is a limited amount of what can be eaten, then "he who does not work" will end up being redefined


[25-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Communism would have worked perfectly in the feudal ages


[25-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In communes, societies of under 5k people


[25-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
I think communism can work at like, the community level where everyone knows each other. This is why communes can be pretty successful.

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[25-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where you could identify who was who


[25-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
The problem is trying to apply it to a nation or a world.


[25-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Beyond that, it's systems upon systems and accountability fails, corruption grows, and human nature of greed and egotism takes over


[25-Jul-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism cannot remain stagnant to a nation as a single nominally communist country would be easily strangled in time by the capitalist rest


[25-Jul-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It has to become a world system


[25-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Without post-scarcity, the only feasible communist-like systems would be megastructure communities that trade with eachother


[25-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Frosku#5874
I think that's largely (at @Teaspoon's comment) down to the fact that as humans we find it easier to sympathise with people we know. Not in the sense of "oh I don't care what happens in X country" but in the sense that most people, given the choice between the death of their wife and the death of two random strangers, would pick the latter.


[25-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Trolley problem


[25-Jul-20 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> It is an error to regard the struggle for existence as the only power giving shape to the organic world. The struggle for existence is the main power that causes the origin of new species, but Darwin himself knew full well that other powers co-operate which give shape to the forms, habits, and peculiarities of animate things. In his “Descent of Man” Darwin elaborately treated sexual selection and showed that the competition of males for females gave rise to the gay colors of the birds and butterflies and also to the singing voices of birds. There he also devoted a chapter to social living. Many illustrations on this head are also to be found in Kropotkin’s book, “Mutual Aid as a Factor in Evolution.” The best representation of the effects of sociability are given in Kautsky’s “Ethics and the Materialistic Conception of History.”


[25-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
Or given the choice between getting $1 million, and five random strangers getting $1 million, will pick the former.


[25-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
Even though the latter provides proveably more utilitarian good.


[25-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Frosku#5874
It's the proximity issue. It's probably biological.


[25-Jul-20 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> When we regard our own times, we see that economically all the people form one unit, although a very weak one; nevertheless the abstract feeling of brotherhood becomes ever more popular. The social feelings are strongest among members of the same class, for classes are the essential units embodying particular interests and including certain members. Thus we see that the social units and social feelings change in human society. These changes are brought about by economic changes, and the higher the stage of economic development, the higher and nobler the social feelings.


[25-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Frosku#5874
> The social feelings are strongest among members of the same class

I'm not even sure I agree with this, people divide themselves along all kinds of arbitrary lines. Class, gender, religion, race.


[25-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Frosku#5874
I'd say I probably feel more brotherhood with other people who like ponies than people who share my income group.


[25-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Frosku#5874
Im not a member of any communities for people who earn between $xxx,000 and $xxx,000 a year but I'm in plenty for people who like colorful equines.


[25-Jul-20 04:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pannekoek in the work i linked to earlier argues against what you're saying in chapter X, seemingly


[25-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Frosku#5874
ofc the fandom skews towards the proletariat class but there are plenty of petty-borgies like me here.


[25-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Not actually sure if I qualify as a borgy or not 😂


[25-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Maybe @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 could tell me :P


[25-Jul-20 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, you own a business


[25-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Frosku#5874
I was definitely born a prole


[25-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Serenity#9645
what about not arbitrary lines, like this person needs a better bed that requires more material or rarer material. its very comfortable but the person needs it for their back. now everyone wants that comfort but it cant be done. should something else be taken from that person? should the problem be eliminated so others dont want it? legitimate question


[25-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Frosku#5874
My mom is a nurse and my dad is uh... a pharmacist ¬_¬


[25-Jul-20 04:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're very likely to be petit-bourgeois today, regardless of the class you were born into


[25-Jul-20 04:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Class is in regards to your position around the *means of production*


[25-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
He sells weed.


[25-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
OK, yeah I own a small business so I guess I'd be petit-bourgeois today.


[25-Jul-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you were to sell your work power to a capitalist in exchange for a salary, you'd be a proletarian


[25-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
Though pretty much everyone who works for me owns nontoken shares in the company.


[25-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Serenity#9645
i work on helicopter electronics, i started off homeless kicked out at 15-16 because i was gay, my father is military, my mother has no job. i started at mcdonalds


[25-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not a true coop but about 28% of the company is employee-owned.


[25-Jul-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Serenity do you own the business you work in?


[25-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Where do freelancers/self-employed contractors fit in btw?


[25-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Serenity#9645
no but my time is worth alot


[25-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
I would honestly have made more money in the last 3 years if I kept contracting for major financial companies.


[25-Jul-20 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Freelancers? That's a somewhat complicated question but i'd wager that they're petit-bourgeois as they own their own means of production (their knowlege, computer, work planning, office)


[25-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
The first 4 years of running a business have been brutal. I'm only really starting to see returns now.


[25-Jul-20 04:36 AM] Frosku#5874
Year 1 my income was below minimum wage.


[25-Jul-20 04:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They get money in exchange for a service


[25-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Serenity#9645
i get money in exchange for a service


[25-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah I was wondering if they still count as proles because they're essentially still trading their labor for money, even if through a different power dynamic.


[25-Jul-20 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But are not employed by a boss per se -- rather, by whoever requests their services at the moment


[25-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Frosku#5874
So here's an interesting one: is a CEO a prole?


[25-Jul-20 04:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A CEO?


[25-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean i get requests to have my services used, i was in germany for a year because of it


[25-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Assuming they're employed and not the founder.


[25-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Like, if I employed someone to be CEO of this company because I wanted to focus on something else


[25-Jul-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
More like part of a manager class or something of that sort, like an engineering expert overseeing proles working at an infrastructure project


[25-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Frosku#5874
What about employees with non-token shareholding?


[25-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Serenity#9645
i also work on cars and computers in my spare time because i like it, i own that means of production


[25-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Frosku#5874
If this company ever blows up, it will make multiple millionaires, not just me.


[25-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Serenity#9645
have all my own tools and knowledge


[25-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
idk, maybe tech startups are a hard industry to classify because I do pretty much the same work that the people I employ do, and they own part of the company, and some of them get paid more than I do 😂


[25-Jul-20 04:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None of these sorts of jobs existed in significant numbers back when Marx wrote his theses, bear in mind


[25-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
I just have the 'executive director' title that means I have to sign paperwork. And majority shareholding.


[25-Jul-20 04:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> "The lower middle class, the small manufacturer, the shopkeeper, the artisan, the peasant, all these fight against the bourgeoisie, to save from extinction their existence as fractions of the middle class. They are therefore not revolutionary, but conservative. Nay more, they are reactionary, for they try to roll back the wheel of history. If by chance they are revolutionary, they are so only in view of their impending transfer into the proletariat, they thus defend not their present, but their future interests, they desert their own standpoint to place themselves at that of the proletariat."


[25-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Serenity#9645
i get contracted to work on helicopters for my job, and i own the means of production in buying salvage cars, fixing them and selling them for profit, i also build computers and do the same/fix them but thats more made to order


[25-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
I own the means of production apart from the datacenter, which I rent part of.


[25-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
And the Internet, obviously. I don't own the Internet. :P


[25-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
We do have a five year plan to own our own datacenter.


[25-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Serenity#9645
i do advertising for the rebuilt cars on the internet so i dont own that lol


[25-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
I've largely tried to avoid outside investment, so growth has been pretty slow and steady.


[25-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Serenity#9645
also youll be suprised how much you can make rebuilding cars, i can make around 2-15k a week from that not counting my actual job


[25-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Could you fix my fucked up Lotus Esprit? :D


[25-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Serenity#9645
whats wrong more then likely yes enless the parts are discontinued and none are for sale (and its not easy to fab)


[25-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Frosku#5874
It's a limited edition car which is literally the only reason I haven't scrapped it. The old owner wrapped it around a lamppost.


[25-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Frosku#5874
The fibreglass body is utterly fucked.


[25-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm just wondering if it's likely to be *possible* even if not economically reasonable.


[25-Jul-20 04:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know practically zero car types except for beetle, ferrari, delorean, mustang, uno and uhhhhh... corolla?


[25-Jul-20 04:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine being able to pinpoint the brand of every single parked car you randomly see on a lane


[25-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Serenity#9645
fibreglass is pretty hard to replicate as its pretty unique but i know some fab shops that might get close, ran into the same problem with a 86 300zx but its hard and does cost abit


[25-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Serenity#9645
you could balance it with aluminum replacements and make it ALOT cheeper


[25-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Frosku#5874
There are only 100 of this model in the world, so I'd want to have it restored as faithfully as possible.


[25-Jul-20 04:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Numbers and letters put together to signify technology i don't understand, aaargh


[25-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Synfag#9241
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[25-Jul-20 04:49 AM] Synfag#9241
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[25-Jul-20 04:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anyway i think i'll link this again since few actually paid attention to it when i posted it a few days ago :c
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/07/24/Turkey-plans-to-increase-its-forces-in-Libya-in-case-of-Egyptian-intervention-Report.html

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Turkey plans to increase its forces in Libya in case of Egyptian in...
Turkey put in place a military plan in anticipation of a possible Egyptian intervention in Libya,
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[25-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Frosku#5874
@Serenity It was commemorated to celebrate Lotus winning the F1 series in 1979 IIRC.


[25-Jul-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Entangling web of military alliances threatening the MENA region rn -- Egypt in conflict with Ethiopia in particular


[25-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Frosku#5874
That whole region is such a mess


[25-Jul-20 04:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All circling around a massively important dam Ethiopia just completed building


[25-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Frosku#5874
And Turkey is turning into another Iran, but an Iran with nukes.


[25-Jul-20 04:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, Ethiopia had the idea to build a dam to catch water from the Nile river in its territory and power up its electric grid


[25-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Frosku#5874
Seems reasonable


[25-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Serenity#9645
nice! it should be polyester fibreglass but idk the extent of damage if its been in a wrap around, it will be super hard to fix because theres probably frame damage that needs to be repared and almost complete panel replacement


[25-Jul-20 04:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
However, Egypt is concerned because it is downstream from that dam and most of its agriculture depends on the Nile


[25-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Frosku#5874
I'll get some pics next time I'm in the UK @Serenity, I have it in storage.


[25-Jul-20 04:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Egyptian government is scared that Ethiopia's Nile dam might be a knife held to Egypt's neck as the Ethiopians can regulate the water flow coming downstream towards Cairo and fuck up Egypt's agriculture


[25-Jul-20 04:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tensions are high between the two states and also Sudan, which sits between them -- a water war seems to be brewing


[25-Jul-20 04:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-50328647

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Who owns the River Nile - and why it matters
At the heart of the dispute between Ethiopia and Egypt is who has control over Africa's longest river.
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[25-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't keep up with MENA politics outside of Israel to be honest.


[25-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874
No one owns the Nile, that's an insane proposition.


[25-Jul-20 04:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But someone wants to


[25-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874
Privatize the Nile, I'll buy it.


[25-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/star-of-david-deemed-hateful-imagery-by-twitter-635847

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Star of David taken down by Twitter, citing 'hateful imagery'
Twitter users found themselves locked out of their accounts after using the Star of David in their profile images.
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[25-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Synfag#9241
Twitter's final solution to the hateful imagery question


[25-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Frosku#5874
TFW Twitter doesn't realize Jews reclaimed the yellow star like 40 years ago.


[25-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Frosku#5874
Anyone with a cursory interest in Jewish or Israeli culture would know this.


[25-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah kinda hard to gadge the repair without seeing it, but you can order to spec fibreglass replacements from a fab shop wont be cheep with all the curves, but can be done, but id worry more about frame and replaceing the bent metal/frame long before i worry about bodywork. fibreglass cracks are repairable easily but extencive damage usually isnt or wont hold up that well https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAYbsBEwLLIeivzDsd4tdUQ this guy does get into the repairing/restoration of your car but some panels he did order

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My channel is mainly focused on photography, technology and DIY....of all kinds. Enjoy watching it
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[25-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Frosku#5874
It's very extensive damage


[25-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Frosku#5874
The frame is damaged too


[25-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Serenity#9645
i do frame work pretty often, people dont buy salvagable cars with frame damage. so i pick them up for like 400 and sell them for 10k+ its pretty simple to fabricate and replace lol


[25-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Left front wheel is practically a square shape. It was a serious impact at high speed.


[25-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, I think it's in that category of cars that normally it'd be cheaper to just buy a new car


[25-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Frosku#5874
But because it has historic value as a very limited edition car, might be worth trying to fix when I'm in the economic position to do it.


[25-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Frosku#5874
I picked it up for $2k which is what the scrapyard offered him.


[25-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Frosku#5874
Most of that value AFAIK is the relatively expensive and hard to source Lotus parts that could be salvaged.


[25-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah but some are rare and people will pay alot to see that type of car survive, but front end left side is a big ouch, im gonna say it is a frame shift, not just damage. that is alot harder to balance


[25-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Cars


[25-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-doctor-reinfected-with-coronavirus-3-months-after-recovering-635550

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Israeli doctor reinfected with coronavirus 3 months after recovering
This is the second case at Sheba Medical Center in which a patient recovered from the virus and was subsequently reinfected.
https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect/460815


[25-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Frosku#5874
Beginning to think this herd immunity thing isn't going to happen.


[25-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Marukomuru#8409
hashtag just the flu


[25-Jul-20 05:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[25-Jul-20 06:14 AM] illumnious#7938
Suuuuuuuuuure

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[25-Jul-20 06:18 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/24/politics/paw-patrol-lego-cancel-fact-check/index.html

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Fact Check: Despite White House claims, PAW Patrol and police LEGO ...
In a Friday edition of her White House briefing, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany declared that children's activities are being policed as a result of "cancel culture."
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[25-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.dailywire.com/news/congressman-introduces-bill-that-would-have-democratic-party-change-name-or-be-barred-from-participation-in-the-house-due-to-past-support-of-slavery-confederacy

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Congressman Introduces Bill That Would Have Democrat Party Change N...
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) introduced a bill Thursday on the floor of the House of Representatives that would ban the Democratic Party due to the party’s history of having supported slavery and the Confederacy, saying “that is the standard to which they are holding everyone els...
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[25-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Frosku#5874
That's actually hilarious, given the reasoning he used.


[25-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Frosku#5874
"Since people are demanding we rid ourselves of the entities, symbols, and reminders of the repugnant aspects of our past, then the time has come for Democrats to acknowledge their party’s loathsome and bigoted past, and consider changing their party name to something that isn’t so blatantly and offensively tied to slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination, and the Ku Klux Klan."


[25-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Serenity#9645
big ol oof


[25-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I feel like they'd have an easier time calling his bluff and doing it to make a point. A name's just a name.


[25-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Though we could also have a conversation about the Republican party's bigoted *present* - and Democrats too, to be fair, just less so.

Hell with it, name changes for *everyone!* We're the donkeys and elephants now.


[25-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Serenity#9645
i highly doubt he actually expects it to pass, i cant speak for him, but it seems like a petty jab at worst, at best something to think about something for everyone that is trying to say a entire thing is bad because of one thing in the past


[25-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
but i will say it would be hilarious if it passed XD


[25-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's perfectly reasonable to remove the names of *actual* Confederates from our military bases, still.

Even putting aside the issue of racism and slavery, the Confederates literally fought against the United States. Naming bases after our enemies is perhaps not the best thing.


[25-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Serenity#9645
well theres the generalization everything is bad because of one thing, many generals and common soldiers were against the war, but fought for their home state. many didnt own salves or were not highly political, it was a call to defend home back when it was way harder to move from Georgia to maryland with your family. its that state nationalism that was praised even if they were the loosing side. there isnt much of a backlash against the soldiers memorials because they were on the wrong side but because they died for their state and it is part of their history. and we maybe are too far in the future now, but back then people had family that died in that pointless war. thats why you dont see statues of president whats his name, but of robert e lee who protested the war but returned to his family and state or of the unknown soldiers built after the war. i dont belive it is because everyone there hated the slaves or even liked the new government (heck i cant think of one politian that is held up from the confederates nor anyone defending them really its mainly military) , but because people tend to rally around military that their son or father died in. theres usually a military understanding that people fight and die bravely even if they loose or are on the winning side have a admiration of their foe and even more if they have family or bothers in arms that did. this also was a war against brothers, so even if you killed your brother your still going to have some respect. its all speculation but i can see that there is reasons why there is bases, statues, and memorials for the losing side just the same as the union named bases, statues and memorials as well.


[25-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Many *didn't* own slaves, but the Confederacy as a nation seceded to preserve slavery.

Many of the states' declarations of secesion specifically listed slavery as the reason for doing it. The Cornerstone Speech given by Confederate vice-president Alexander H. Stephens outright says, ***"Our new government's foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man."***

If my "home state" was part of a nation whose "cornerstone rested" upon the "great truth" of racial inequality, then I'd fucking *defect* and refuse to support it.


[25-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Simply being in the military is not honorable if the cause you fight for is inherently *dis*honorable.


[25-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Serenity#9645
many did, many didnt want to leave their home. many are leaving cities that are having riots right now, but some dont want to leave their home. forget about politics for a second and think about the common footsoldier anywhere, they dont fight usually for whatever the polititans want, they fight cus its their home (excluding gun to the back kind). generals even good or bad ones fight for their home too not the politics behind it.


[25-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean did they print out the articles of confederation and make sure every footsoldier had acess to read what it was all about?


[25-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Serenity#9645
alot of people couldnt even read back then


[25-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The soldiers knew why the Confederacy existed, come on now. Nobody who fought for the Confederacy was ignorant of why the Confederacy was formed.


[25-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These men should not be infantilized. They can be held responsible for their informed actions, which they were.


[25-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Serenity#9645
so your telling me in a time that there was mass illiteracy in a new nation, citizens were not just told that the us are the bad guys trying to take our freedoms grab your hunting rifle. heck i think illiteracy was as high as 40% in tennessee a southern state in the 50s/60s  IIRC they created the TVA to teach literacy and science to harvest crops better and read farming books and manuals of new tractors. and tennessee was a split state where half went to the union


[25-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think we can't have it both ways. If the Confederates had no idea what they were doing, then why did the revolutionaries in 1776? Because we view the latter as a good thing, and the former as a bad thing, and wish to *excuse* the former by constructing a possibility that somehow the soldiers en masse had *no idea* why they were fighting.


[25-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
most of the people in the revolution were actually ok with the british rule


[25-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But it isn't even just soldiers. Generals and high-ranking officers are usually the ones this stuff gets named after, and boy did *they* understand why they were fighting


[25-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Robert E. Lee, who's often touted as "anti-slavery" simply because he believed the practice should have been abolished *eventually,* had this hot take:

*"The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence."*


[25-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Schools all over the south were named after this guy.


[25-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean it would have happened sooner or later when the british empire was failing it would have stayed in the closer africa and just forgotten about the americas.


[25-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont really care about how "racist" the guy was back then not racist people were the minority


[25-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Sooner or later" isn't an acceptable trajectory to end an indefensibly evil institution like slavery. If you can end it *now* with a war or end it decades later by just waiting it out (which would have also pushed back the civil rights movement, desegregation, etc. back too), then you end it now. Waiting for slavery to just "end itself" is not acceptable.


[25-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean theres many old peom writers and novelists that were extremely racist. we still read and like them today


[25-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, but their legacy was not predicated on a racist cause. The Confederacy was an inherently racist cause, and they were not shy about that fact.


[25-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These great writers were renowned for other things, *in spite of* their racism.


[25-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean so were the democratic party, lets eliminate that, i dont care how many non racists there were, they upheld racist policy! lets also get rid of the republicans they did some pretty racist things too!


[25-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Serenity#9645
tear it all down, this whole country is racist

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[25-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Based. The two parties suck and I'd be fine chucking them both in the trash.


[25-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont much care for the confederacy, just the understanding that in military history people gave credit to enemy leaders and soldiers. erwin rommel was highly respected as a nazi before people knew he tried to kill hitler. him and his panzer division was so efficent and a worthy enemy even if his country was anti-sematic


[25-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, but we wouldn't put his name on a military base.

I'm not talking about private individuals or institutions admiring these people, I'm saying the United States government and military institutions have no business propping up Confederate iconography.


[25-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Honahue#0656
guess we should name a base Ho Chi Mihn


[25-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
King George Airforce Base


[25-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Serenity#9645
ok but what about the state? it has its own governence


[25-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
military bases are federal land the state doesn't get a say


[25-Jul-20 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the adolph hitler academy of air force aviation


[25-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Honahue#0656
at least that the argument Hawaii made to get insterstate money


[25-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Serenity might mean places like town halls and state capitals, but even then, I'd say no, take that flag down.

Those states are still part of the U.S., not the C.S.


[25-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You want to put the Confederate flag on your truck, fine. Put up a huge statue of Robert E. Lee on your front lawn? It's your property, go for it.

But public land is not the venue to put the Confederacy in a place of honor.


[25-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Serenity#9645
i never said anything about hanging a flag on a federal building im talking about generals and memorials and even base names, cus who would have guessed it those generals were once us generals as well and many went back to being us generals if not killed and was liked by many


[25-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Serenity#9645
times are not like now history is different, and like i said maybe it was too long ago, im just trying to understand why and that does seem like the best reason


[25-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Benedict Arnold once fought for the U.S. too. The most we could bring ourselves to give him for his memorial was the guy's boot on an *unnamed* monument.


[25-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
kek yeah he has a statue in England


[25-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The context for these monuments is also important.


[25-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Serenity#9645
i also never said anything was fair either, some pretty shitty people in their time get propped up like lincoln, and decent by their time people got shot down. and history is writen by the winners. i dont remember hearing about the many crimes of lincon in school, but i heard that lee was racist and a loser. but to think generations ago he was well respected by both sides. well lincon had many assassination attempts


[25-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The only good monument is that of the lady who chucked a handbag at a neo nazi


[25-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do you know *when* they started going up, and why?

They didn't go up in the aftermath of the Civil War. They went up, placed by groups associated with the KKK, as a public opposition to black civil rights from the early-to-mid 20th century. The resurgence of Confederate iconography in this country was a deliberate "fuck you" to the equality movement.


[25-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
Hachiko deserves his statue too


[25-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656

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[25-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Serenity#9645
and lincon was put up by slaves well many hated him


[25-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wait wasn’t Hachiko that dog that waited for its owner until it died?


[25-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah


[25-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Top tier good boy


[25-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Honahue#0656
the goodest boy


[25-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Lincoln absolutely deserves criticism for a number of things. But his actions in office largely did leave behind a positive legacy. It's not surprising that he's remembered as one of history's good guys despite his shortcomings, which still *do* merit criticism.


[25-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Serenity#9645
i know its not the same as a hate group, but many soldier memorials get torn down, maybe a hate group funded it oh well, but i dont think that the dead should have their memorial taken even if it was on the wrong side, it would be like the 7th panzer corps memorial should be taken down because of the attrocitys of nazi germany (knowing germany tho they probably already took it down if they even allowed it), they are still people and they still died fighting for their state or country. ulysses wasnt much of a saint and many things are named after him and many people respected him as a general too and if i remember correctly he was even more racist then lee, so lets tear it all down we dont need any of it rename everything to numbers so it cant offend anyone, but even numbers are offensive, and removing memorials will offend people.. guess no one can win, hu?


[25-Jul-20 07:53 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Crawling back out from the rock I live under to mention my confusion about this:
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438412674326331432/736274547929776128
I do recall fundamentalists attempting to suppress certain media around the time of my childhood with the Satanic Panic™️, but as far as I'm aware that has passed since then :roseconfused:


[25-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Serenity#9645
i remember that as well, wasnt allowed to read harry potter or play WoW. even tho i had no internet and didnt have the books lol


[25-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Honahue#0656
Tom Hanks first staring role was in a Satanic Panic anti DnD movie


[25-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Serenity#9645
did not know that, the more you know


[25-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/508996-investigators-suspect-arson-at-arizona-democratic-party-headquarters

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Investigators suspect arson at Arizona Democratic Party headquarters
Investigators said they suspect arson in a fire that caused major damage Friday morning at the Arizona Democratic Party headquarters in Phoenix.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/ca_phoenix_061520getty.jpg


[25-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This also happened to a GOP HQ in Arizona a few months back


[25-Jul-20 07:58 AM] Serenity#9645
there seems to be alot of arson goin on recently, not just political places, but federal buildings and places of worship and businesses and housing. just alot of fire happy people


[25-Jul-20 08:09 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
What I'm confused about is that the Satanic panic is a thing of the past, and I haven't seen anything that would suggest Christians are to blame for websites changing their policies like what we've seen with Tumblr and now Patreon.


[25-Jul-20 08:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In Tumblr's case, they got a lot of deserved shit for letting illegal and abusive content sit on their servers. So rather than actually get better about moderating nsfw content they just threw up their hands and banned all porn with an algorithm that sometimes lets actual porn slide but bans pictures of people hugging.

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[25-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, a buddy of mine had safe-for-work art auto-detected as porn.


[25-Jul-20 08:12 AM] Honahue#0656
America still has a strong Christian prudism element


[25-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Honahue#0656
That;s why The Satanic Temple took the name they did, they're an athiest org but adopt satanic imagry to make the point about religious freedom and seperation of church and state


[25-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Serenity#9645
patreon doesnt really ban porn or really satanic things either, it just bans non-vanilla porn, right wing speakers, and really anything they dont want with their view


[25-Jul-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, they do good work.

Basically, any time a religions organization tries to put religious stuff on public land, the Satanists come along and put their own stuff up too to prove a point. "If yours gets to go up, so does ours." With the ideal outcome being *no* religious iconography on public property.


[25-Jul-20 08:14 AM] Serenity#9645
also there are satanic temples that actually do belive in Satanism, their book is actually a pretty good read and a interesting insight

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[25-Jul-20 08:15 AM] Honahue#0656
LaVeyian Satanism is just Objectivism for goths

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[25-Jul-20 08:15 AM] Serenity#9645
it was made way after the bible and is very progressive for its time


[25-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Serenity#9645
like before gay rights movement it was like i dont give a fuck what you do just get consent lol


[25-Jul-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The various mentions of Satan and/or the Devil in the Bible are almost certainly not even the same character in all instances. Like, the one in Job acted more like God's cosmic prosecutor rather than his enemy.


[25-Jul-20 08:17 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
The Satanic panic is the one instance I recall of Christians attempting to suppress any type of media, which i why is mentioned it


[25-Jul-20 08:20 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Most Christians I know adopt a live-and-let-live attitude regarding most things ("hate the sin but love the sinner" and so on), and the Satanic panic was largely spearheaded by fundamentalists. After the Satanic panic I don't know of any significant fundamentalist influence though.


[25-Jul-20 08:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, in their interpersonal relations, sure. Not so much with policy. Equal marriage still has a lot of resistance among religious voters, though it's getting better.


[25-Jul-20 08:29 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
My personal take on marriage equality is that a lot of the pushback comes from marriage having its place as a religious institution, so I surmise that creating a governmental institution to functionally replace the bureaucratic role of marriage while leaving marriage itself as a purely religious affair would alleviate a lot of the pushback and enforce the separation of religion from legislature.


[25-Jul-20 08:30 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
Of course, by now it'd be a lot more difficult to do that, and it isn't likely to happen.


[25-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Non-religious people have gotten married for years though. There was no widescale objection to that.


[25-Jul-20 08:30 AM] Honahue#0656
you can get married by a judge of the peace but you couldn't if you were gay

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[25-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Honahue#0656
in most states the requirements to preside over a wedding is that the people getting married recognize their authority, then they sign some stuff at city hall


[25-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Serenity#9645
im not religious but im ok with the resistance hear me out, time needs to make sure the policies are made equally and not affecting the majority but putting in rights. too fast and you might have a massive backlash and even more hatred or it spills over and everyone pushes for extra rights that will be given that effect the majority (thus hatred). im also gay and was in the christian hatred of gays with rights sprinkled in here and there.


[25-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even then, it's just a name. Not all religions have the same rules for marriage, and some would happily honor a same-sex one.

There's nothing *uniquely Christian* about the name marriage.


[25-Jul-20 08:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And I am all for churches not being compelled to officiate them. Fine. But as a public and legal service, through the courts, it should be available to everyone.


[25-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Denying gay couples the word marriage still casts them out as "other" or "lesser" than legally-bound couples who *do* get to use that name. It's not an acceptable solution.


[25-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Honahue#0656
gay marriage is just allowing gay people to sign the same papers as straight people they aren't getting preferential treatment for it


[25-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Exactly. I know it's a solved issue *here,* but in other countries it isn't, and I want to discourage the "separate but equal civil union" route there.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Serenity#9645
there are also partnerships, that are pretty much marrage, just without the religious context


[25-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Marriage itself is not an inherently religious thing.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And again, some religions validate gay marriages anyway.


[25-Jul-20 08:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So trying to come up with separate words for it is just unnecessary. An enterprising gay couple under this proposed system could just find a minister of a gay-affirming religion/denomination to marry them and bam, they get to use the word marriage.


[25-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Why bother setting up these extra steps?


[25-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Serenity#9645
places like poland have no gay marrage but have gay partnerships. they could do better with adoption policies, but in reality partnerships are pretty much marrage you get the peice of paper and if a partner dies you get the same as marrage benifits. but still no adoption could definately be worked on


[25-Jul-20 08:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, Poland is actively hostile to LGBT people, so that's kind of a bad example.


[25-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And again, like

Why single gay people out and say "No, you can't be married?" What good does that do anybody?


[25-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It sets them aside as different. Less. Not equal.


[25-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Serenity#9645
it is, but they do have antidiscrimination laws and partnerships, its getting there. what you want me to do give you a example of germany that like your gay yay we love gays!


[25-Jul-20 08:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't want preferential treatment, just the same treatment. It's not a complicated thing really.


[25-Jul-20 08:40 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
That's why I suggest replacement with regards to bureaucratic function. Require the legally recognized civil union for all, and leave the religious ceremony as simply a religious ceremony restricted to the purview of the religion and not the law.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but that's... already how it is. We just call legal civil unions marriages.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which again, is not a word that has any inherent or specific religious meaning.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In the example of Poland, they *do* call straight civil unions marriages, but not gay ones.


[25-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Serenity#9645
well in germany im a protected class, i can wave my hate speech wand anywhere. its a thing i had there. the us is like your gay? ok we dont care. poland its like i cant discriminate against you but i dont like you fag


[25-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Serenity#9645
you got some pretty different extremes there


[25-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Legal marriage and religious marriage rites are two different things. I feel like what you're effectively wanting isn't any real policy change, but for the government to stop calling legal partnerships marriages.


[25-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which I don't think helps anyone, certainly doesn't protect any religious rights. A Baptist who doesn't believe in gay marriage can't stop an Episcopalian who *does* from officiating a gay wedding. Again, under this system, "gay marriage" would still exist; just with extra steps.


[25-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Serenity#9645
i may not have said it correctly, but i ment i dont want the extra power of being protected and telling every person that calls me a fag to goto court, the us is pretty much i dont care thats great by me. poland wont let me adopt and i care about that alot more then whats at the top of my marrage/partnership certificate


[25-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The wording on your document should be the same regardless of gender, is my argument.


[25-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And also, changing it from marriage to something else is unnecessary and doesn't solve an existing problem.


[25-Jul-20 08:47 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean i can get a partnership in the us too


[25-Jul-20 08:47 AM] Serenity#9645
didnt really ask if i could in germany not gonna lie


[25-Jul-20 08:47 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
I'm just trying to think of what I believe would alleviate the pushback :shrugpony:


[25-Jul-20 08:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do you think that would *create* pushback, though?


[25-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think a lot of people would be miffed about the country being absolutely fine with non-religious marriages for centuries and then going "oh well, gotta take away marriage so the gays can't use that term"

That's absolutely how it would be perceived and it'd absolutely generate a lot of negative reaction.


[25-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Serenity#9645
im just saying its wordings, if i got the same rights why do i care? i think marrage is pretty rooted in religion what if i do like partnership better as a title?


[25-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You have that right. In Poland, you don't.


[25-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In Poland, partnership is your only option and that's not good.


[25-Jul-20 08:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let all people, regardless of their gender and sexuality, choose what to call their union.


[25-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Serenity#9645
i think poland has alot of problems with rights, im just not freaking out like its the end of the world if my marrage certificate says partnership at the top when i get the same things. theres things like adoption, even worse did you know if your family dies but has a child your not allowed to adopt they have to goto a shelter there? im way more worried about that then any name im called or what words i prefer to use


[25-Jul-20 08:54 AM] Serenity#9645
ill say we live in a better state where we can say we can call whatever we want to be called this, im more focased on actual rights that really matter


[25-Jul-20 08:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't care how arbitrary a name is. A right is a right. What is fair to one must be fair to all.

If the government said "Group A can wear this but Group B has to wear that" I'd be opposed to. And I am opposed because that's true! Men and women have different legal dress codes in most (not all) of the country and I'm similarly against that.


[25-Jul-20 08:55 AM] Serenity#9645
we have people that want to be called zir and we call them zir. well people cant adopt the child of their dead family


[25-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Serenity#9645
and we argue about how not right the marrage certificate says partnership?


[25-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Either let women go topless or stop letting men do it. Just don't arbitrarily treat one group differently from the other.


[25-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Serenity#9645
im gay i dont care if women go topless, heck in germany i went to saunas all the time and no one wore anything


[25-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And that's good. I'm just saying it's the principle of the thing.

And really, the marriage debate is fundamentally about sex discrimination


[25-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Serenity#9645
well other then that wierd guy who wore a speedo


[25-Jul-20 08:58 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
It'd be posited as "separation of church and state", and that'd be the impetus for its implementation. Even then this is all hypothetical.
Keep in mind these are ideas from the guy who lives a sheltered life under a rock in the middle of nowhere on how to resolve an argument that's already over where he lives.


[25-Jul-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If a man can marry a woman, why can't a woman marry a woman? What's fair for a man is fair for a woman.


[25-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem there is that marriage is already separate from church. It's not a religious thing in and of itself.


[25-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Serenity#9645
well there it isnt, people not part of the church dont get married, they become partners but they get equil rights under the certificate


[25-Jul-20 09:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"The church" isn't the only thing that performs marriages. I assume there's more than one religion present.


[25-Jul-20 09:01 AM] Serenity#9645
gays are not in the view of the church as ligitimate and neither are other religions maybe that will change, but id rather go for rights like you know, adoption?


[25-Jul-20 09:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Neither are other religions" is factually incorrect.


[25-Jul-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Some Christian denominations even recognize gay marriages, like the Episcopal Church.


[25-Jul-20 09:02 AM] Serenity#9645
This type of marriage in Poland is also known as concordat marriage. ... Churches and religious organizations that are not allowed to register the marriage include the Muslim Religious Unit, the Old-Rote Eastern Church and the Karaim Religious Union


[25-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's not okay. In *your* example, there isn't a separation of the two as Harmonio is proposing, because the government is validating only specifically Christian marriages with an official title.


[25-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm against what Harmonio is proposing *too,* just less so since it's at least theoretically equal.


[25-Jul-20 09:05 AM] Serenity#9645
it isnt, but other then a title does it change your rights like adoption? priorities people. its like saying in some countries youll be killed for being gay but they wrote not human on the death certificate and thats the real attrocity


[25-Jul-20 09:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's fine to care about multiple issues at a time.


[25-Jul-20 09:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think if you want adoption rights, normalizing the public's perception of gay relationships is an important step. Like calling it the same thing as straight couples' unions for one.


[25-Jul-20 09:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As long as gay partnerships are viewed as weird and deviant and "lesser" unions, it's going to be hard to rally support for adoption rights.


[25-Jul-20 09:08 AM] Serenity#9645
warsaw is making strides and theres alot of gay poles, it will happen. but i dont hear them saying i wish i could have a certificate that says marrage on it, they ask for equal rights in fields like adoption thinks they are banned from doing


[25-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure, but the two are related. If gay relationships are viewed as fundamentally unequal, it's an issue that affects all kinds of other LGBT rights.


[25-Jul-20 09:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The government affirming, "Yes, we see these unions as just as valid as anyone else's" sends an important message.


[25-Jul-20 09:10 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah but so does i think gay people can raise a child compitently to be a productive member of our society has abit more weight then their religious view on marrage vs partnerships


[25-Jul-20 09:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but... if your government doesn't even think they should get to call themselves married, what chance is there that they'd be okay with adoption? Both matter. But without one the other is super unlikely.


[25-Jul-20 09:12 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean in the end we want the same thing, i just want more freedoms like in adoption not being banned as a way to start, and you want more freedoms in the choice of words on the documentation first


[25-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I want all freedoms immediately, right now.

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[25-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Serenity#9645
welcome to politics


[25-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm just talking about the most realistic path to getting them all.


[25-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
For example


[25-Jul-20 09:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This year, the U.S. passed nondiscrimination protections for LGBT people in all 50 states. That's important, arguably more important than us getting to call our unions marriages.

But I also think that without the gay marriage decision in 2015 this wouldn't have happened. That decision led to a stark uptick in LGBT acceptance. Polls tracking year-by-year societal attitudes showed that after gay marriage was legalized in all states, acceptance went up. That rise brought us to this nondiscrimination decision.


[25-Jul-20 09:15 AM] RadiantHarmony#6638
The purely legal institution would be necessary for a union to be recognized by law, and marriage would just be the name of the religious ceremony.
Though, as I consider it further, there may be pushback for *that* by religious people claiming their religion is being delegitimized by the government.
I guess it really is a no-win situation just like anything else in politics :notbestpony:


[25-Jul-20 09:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Gallup has been tracking acceptance of gay marriage since the 90s, where it started as around less than 20% of the population. This year it was 67%. That's 2 out of 3 people. That's honestly exciting. If you meet an American, they're statistically likely to be pro-LGBT, which is a *whole* different society than the one I grew up in as a closeted bisexual who had to hide who I was.

And I think that society's attitudes on marriage equality obviously correlate to their attitudes on other LGBT rights issues too.


[25-Jul-20 09:38 AM] Serenity#9645
was talking to one of my polish friends and he said he much rather see gay adoption and that most of the hatred is for LGBT ideology not homosexuality in general (though there is people who hate gays). but that they see in the LGBT parades where people walk around screaming wierd stuff with dildo dresses and it wierds them out. i cant really blame them on that one, that wierds out me and im gay lol


[25-Jul-20 09:42 AM] Serenity#9645
doesnt make less rights better, but thought that was kinda a outside look in i didnt really think about because even if its wierd we just accept it where others are completely wierded out or maybe even scared that their streets will be filled of screaming dildo dress wearing wierdos that we just really ignore


[25-Jul-20 09:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that's an unfair mischaracterization of the pride movement. Most parades and demonstrations are about gay rights and most don't have those kinds of overt displays of sexuality. I myself am not fond of that and think it hurts the movement, but I also think it's intellectually dishonest to stereotype us based on that.

I'm also not sure what "LGBT ideology" is.


[25-Jul-20 09:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My ideology is just "your sexuality or gender identity should not affect how you are treated or what rights you have."


[25-Jul-20 09:48 AM] Serenity#9645
well he is completely on board with that, but you cant help to see the extremes that like you said hurt the rights movement. but thats what people see and how they feel about it in places that havent fully commited


[25-Jul-20 09:50 AM] Serenity#9645
and lots of people use stereotypes maybe not you and me, but look at our country now, we have left wing and right wing and everyone is grouped into one of the other even if its all so different from person to person, one is literally hitler, and the other is literally stalin


[25-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In Washington we have centrists and right wingers who call the centrists left wing.


[25-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Honahue#0656
social media doesn't allow for nuance


[25-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I get what you mean.


[25-Jul-20 09:53 AM] Honahue#0656
when most political discussions happen on sites that are about getting the most clicks possible for advertisers there no way to have a meaningful conversation so everthing tends towards extremes


[25-Jul-20 09:54 AM] Serenity#9645
what isnt more extreme then dildo dresses in rainbow colors well a bearded man wearing it is screaming at everyone to be gay, cus that gets clicks lol


[25-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Serenity#9645
then all of a sudden that person if the face of the movement, and people are scared to let him raise children


[25-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Serenity#9645
its sad but i can see it, doesnt mean its right, but i can see it


[25-Jul-20 09:57 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I saw a literal pussy hat


[25-Jul-20 09:57 AM] Serenity#9645
ah the feminisum marches thats a whole can of worms there


[25-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a double-standard. The few gay people who do this are made to be ambassadors for the entire LGBT community. While cranks like Westboro Baptist aren't made the face of Christianity.


[25-Jul-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Ew icky isn't really an argument


[25-Jul-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's just being a reactionary.


[25-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Serenity#9645
well one is seen as individuality and one is trying to take that away. so of course one will be shunned by all well the other is "you do you yay?"


[25-Jul-20 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hmm yes people don't deserve human rights because I feel some consenting adults do icky things to eachother


[25-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's also true. Being weird and off-putting isn't a crime or a justification to not have equal rights. So hell, the ones swinging dildos around - while I still think they're not a good look for us - still don't warrant people going "I don't like this, ergo gay rights bad"


[25-Jul-20 10:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's cringe but honestly I don't care about it and noone really should, they literally do it to be provocative


[25-Jul-20 10:01 AM] Serenity#9645
exactly, individuality is wierd. but you try to take away whats given many will step in to defend


[25-Jul-20 10:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I care about it to the extent that I think our movement should be trying its best to push the "We're just average people just like you" angle. And I think most of us are.


[25-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Serenity#9645
that dont get clicks tho


[25-Jul-20 10:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah, to be entirely fair the shit I've seen and heard straight people doing makes dildo suits look like Victorian era dress levels of conservative


[25-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also true. Like


[25-Jul-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like straight people are full on equally as "icky" everywhere irl, if not worse tbh


[25-Jul-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Just doesn't get the attention I suppose.


[25-Jul-20 10:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like I know this is a joke, but can you imagine the **moral outrage** of a gay version of this

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[25-Jul-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah gender reveal party explosions, cringy overly gendered creepy ass shit


[25-Jul-20 10:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
straights pushin' their sexuality onto babies


[25-Jul-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
But that's normal so it's okay apparently lol


[25-Jul-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
They be like haha that's cute, no, it's weird projection of sexuality onto kids, exactly what they accuse us of.


[25-Jul-20 10:04 AM] Honahue#0656
the only good thing to come from gender reveal parties is the explosive deaths


[25-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
100% exactly what they're accusing lgbt+ people of doing they do lmao


[25-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Serenity#9645
i can understand it a gay couple will want a gay child, they want the child to be like them as a goal, even if their accepting of them ending up not being that


[25-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
Straight people sexualize kids more than anyone else lmao


[25-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think any parent should care at all what their kid is attracted to.


[25-Jul-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
These same people correlate more people being openly gay and bi as "lgbt ideology corrupting our youth"


[25-Jul-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like no, they're just not getting wives and then fucking guys on the side m8


[25-Jul-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's classic 100% reported str8 behaviour.


[25-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People aren't terrified to come out as much today. There aren't more gay people, there's less closeted gay people.


[25-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean some are way more cringy like that onesie, but deep down you want to raise a child to be like you. have your interests. wither it be cars, horses, or even sexuality.


[25-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I really don't?


[25-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Honahue#0656
imagine wanting children can't relate


[25-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Serenity#9645
well the positive things of you and your experience


[25-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm bi and I could not give less of a damn if any hypothetical kids I have are too. If they're straight, gay, bi, asexual, whatever, good on them. I really don't have any investment in them being any of those things over the other.


[25-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And if I did, well, it wouldn't matter since I have no control over it.


[25-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Serenity#9645
well thats the accepting part, but wouldnt it be awesome if they were bi and love everyone?


[25-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem with a lot of parents who are adamant about their kids being straight is that many of them think sexuality is a choice or that their kids can be "corrupted" into being gay.


[25-Jul-20 10:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So they actively work to make what they want come true by trying to influence the child to be a certain way, which doesn't work.


[25-Jul-20 10:10 AM] Serenity#9645
if i had a hypothetical child, id like to share my experince of being gay, cus if their stright i cant help them with their road the same as me. but ill try my damndest to help


[25-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like I could. My father is a straight man and I don't think we had any trouble relating because of that difference.

Like, he knows what it's like to be in love. That's pretty universal regardless of the genders involved.


[25-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Synfag#9241
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[25-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Synfag#9241
> *Anti-feminist lawyer kills men's right's attorney*


[25-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Synfag#9241
oh CNN, killing two birds with one stone


[25-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Serenity#9645
its about passing on knowledge and it feels bad when you cant help. thats my point. just dont be cringy like my baby will be a ladys man and get all the sex on a onesie lol


[25-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, those two things don't *have* to go together.


[25-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's possible to be a feminist and also care about legitimate men's issues. Men's issues shouldn't promote anti-feminism.


[25-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Synfag#9241
> It's possible to be a feminist and also care about legitimate men's issues

tell that to the MRAs that got spat at and lumped together with incels for saying they are also feminists


[25-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I consider myself a *"men's lib"* advocate rather than "men's rights." I think men have some unique challenges like custody battles, suicide rates, stigma around being openly emotional, etc. that absolutely need to be addressed.

The problem I see with the MRA movement is that it doesn't address those things well. It takes a presriptivist approach to masculinity and shames men for being "betas" which - if you ask me - is the *opposite* of what a "pro-men" movement should be doing.


[25-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Synfag#9241
"laughing at MRAs problems" videos are always funny


[25-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Synfag#9241
you can see them on the verge of tears


[25-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Synfag#9241
they know no one listens to them


[25-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Synfag#9241
and yet they keep holding on to a lost cause


[25-Jul-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
Men not being able to express their feelings openly is the root of men's specifically social issues, I'd bet money violent crime would go down were men expressing their feelings as openly as women were normalized


[25-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, I agree. I do think it's gotten better.


[25-Jul-20 10:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
No shame for it and such


[25-Jul-20 10:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I absolutely get mad when people shame men for expressing anything but anger and happiness


[25-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Serenity#9645
most MRAs ive seen dont shame men for being beta (i mean i can name some like carl benjamin) and mostly just bring up this is a mens issue we need to make things better


[25-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A lot of the legal issues men face, like harsher prison sentences or almost never winning custody of their kids, also stems from gender norms. "Women are delicate and nurturing, men are tough and unemotional."

Dismantling that is important.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Synfag#9241
I'll never forget the "Egalitarianism is an MRA project" narrative from PBS


[25-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Serenity#9645
well thats a thing


[25-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He apologized.


[25-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Credit where it's due, PBS Idea Channel took criticism to heart and didn't double down


[25-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Synfag#9241
he apologized, and yet it stuck


[25-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He kept the video up but I don't think he stuck with that sentiment.


[25-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Synfag#9241
nobody wants egalitarianism anymore


[25-Jul-20 10:20 AM] Synfag#9241
too toxic to say that word


[25-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Serenity#9645
well i dont see the need to drag on if he apologised and didnt double down and learned. yeah it sucked and is out there but no need to beat a dead horse


[25-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I want egalitarianism. I just consider feminism - that is, acknowledgment of women largely being treated worse than men and working to undo that - to be part *of* egalitarianism.


[25-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Synfag#9241
even the so called "griefers" compare it to the n-word


[25-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Serenity#9645
probably why i never heard of it to tell the truth


[25-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Synfag#9241
all because it got forcefully tethered to the MRA


[25-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see a lot of people use egalitarianism as if it's some contrast to feminism, as if to side-step the issue of how women *are* largely hit with more sexism than men are on a systemic level. Not *all,* men do get some of it, like I mentioned earlier.


[25-Jul-20 10:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I think the two ought to go together. Egalitarianism is the belief that all *people* should be treated the same. Feminism is part of that larger belief to me. Men's lib is too. They're not at odds inherently.


[25-Jul-20 10:24 AM] Synfag#9241
besides, MRAs are practically dissolved
either into MGTOW, PUA, Blackpill, Incels, and the rest probably committed suicide


[25-Jul-20 10:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like a lot of those movements could also benefit from society normalizing it being *okay* to be single.


[25-Jul-20 10:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think we tie this idea of romance and sex with success, and we shouldn't. You're not a failure if you're single.


[25-Jul-20 10:26 AM] Synfag#9241
depends on the introverts and extroverts


[25-Jul-20 10:26 AM] Synfag#9241
introverts can survive being single


[25-Jul-20 10:26 AM] Serenity#9645
well its only better to be single when your not under threat of losing kids, money, and your livelyhood


[25-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Synfag#9241
quarantines due to this pandemic have been the greatest social experiment on humanity's reaction to limited social interaction


[25-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's absurd to me. You date someone because you like being with them. Because it's fun and enjoyable.

It's not something you should do for societal validation or to prove that you've "made it" so you can show up the other guys.


[25-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Synfag#9241
extroverts went crazy


[25-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Serenity#9645
when a partner can take almost everything and continue to take for years, it is hard to want to stay with that person with the knowledge that at any time they can get bored and leave and take almost everything with them. if there wasnt that incentive then i think a relationship can flourish knowing no one can walk away with nothing if things even get slightly rough


[25-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Synfag#9241
introverts got all *opens the door* **NOW IS MY TIME TO SHINE** *closes the door*

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[25-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is where I think a lot of incel mentality comes from. It's not even the genuine desire to be with a partner. It's the desire to not be viewed as a loser for *not* having one.


[25-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because a lot of these guys seem to really not like women at all. Don't like talking to them, don't like being around them, just have a visceral dislike of these people they desperately want a relationship with.


[25-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Synfag#9241
I think incels already gave up on seeking a relationship


[25-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Synfag#9241
and stuck to venting


[25-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Serenity#9645
one thing good about being gay, you get with someone they want to leave, you both looka round and say you worked hard for this you keep it, same for this man, i dont wanna pay layers XD


[25-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've mostly dated women, but I feel like my breakups with both men and women have largely been on amicable, friendly terms. Maybe I'm just good at attracting chill people.


[25-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Serenity#9645
i tried dating a female before, she took stuff i payed alot for cus she liked it, always asked for money cus she kept spending hers on her family, her family didnt like me and she broke up with me cus of that lol


[25-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's not a women problem, it's a mooch problem.


[25-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Don't date mooches.


[25-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Serenity#9645
i swear tho if it wasnt for her family it probably could have worked out pretty well. but she had such a commitment to serving them that it hurt her alot more then me


[25-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Usually when I'm dating someone, we just pay for our own stuff. Sometimes one of us will treat the other; like if either of us is specifically asking the other to a date, as opposed to just casually hanging out as a couple, the one who arranged the evening usually treats - but that goes regardless of gender.


[25-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Serenity#9645
she had a good job, but paying for your mom and your sister who is a cam whore who is entitled to everything just didnt work out weither i was there or not


[25-Jul-20 10:41 AM] Serenity#9645
much better of with a boyfriend who makes about the same as me and not gonna lie way more red pilled then me and we just hang out when work doesnt drag us away with no drama is so much better


[25-Jul-20 10:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When you say red-pilled, what do you mean?


[25-Jul-20 10:43 AM] Synfag#9241
depends on the info you get


[25-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Serenity#9645
pretty deep into intellectual dark web type stuff


[25-Jul-20 10:44 AM] Synfag#9241
even the left was using the *red pill* term
well, until mainstream media condemned it as a right wing thing
so everybody went with the politically correct *woke* term instead


[25-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A.) That's because "the red pill" is the name of a specific right-wing group that believes in prescriptivist traditional gender roles, so that didn't come from the mainstream media necessarily

and

B.) I pretty much only hear "woke" used derisively by right-wingers to describe the left. It's not a term we regularly use.


[25-Jul-20 10:46 AM] Synfag#9241
*woke* got the same media treatment


[25-Jul-20 10:46 AM] Synfag#9241
and is now used derisively by the right


[25-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Synfag#9241
you see the pattern here


[25-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah i remember when more left people called themselves woke unironically


[25-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Synfag#9241
mainstream media controls everybody's vocabulary


[25-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Serenity#9645
always thought it was kinda cringe XD


[25-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When "woke" *was* used in left-wing circles, it didn't mean progressive. It meant more like, aware and alert. "Stay woke" was used to mean "pay attention to what's going on."

Then it got corrupted into describing anyone who thinks people should have equal rights


[25-Jul-20 10:48 AM] Synfag#9241
*red pill* was meant to be in the same way as with the matrix movie
knowing the truth
that's why even the left used it before


[25-Jul-20 10:48 AM] Serenity#9645
i think its more used to like feminists that think men have no issues and they need to fix the wage gap


[25-Jul-20 10:49 AM] Serenity#9645
like thats woke, in the rights terms


[25-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Serenity#9645
same as the anti-racists that say that a race needs more of x is a "woke" stance


[25-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Synfag#9241
you are right about *woke*/*stay woke* being used to mean "pay attention to what's going on."


[25-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The wage gap does exist, just not in the way it was often presented.

It's not that *base pay* is arbitrarily different for men and women, but that men and women in the same field with the same education and experience get raises and promotions at different rates.


[25-Jul-20 10:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Significantly different, I mean


[25-Jul-20 10:51 AM] Synfag#9241
if you think about it
*red pill* and *woke* diverge into the meaning *to keep aware*


[25-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, that's true.


[25-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Synfag#9241
but you know
media needs sides for them to push to be at war with each other


[25-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Serenity#9645
yep, i just feel like one is more of a insult well one is used as the keeping aware term


[25-Jul-20 10:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've seen more leftists kinda trying to take back popular phrases that the right co-opted.

Like, I'm seeing more prominent lefties saying based again.


[25-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We rolled over and let them have Pepe. Let's not do that anymore.


[25-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Synfag#9241
the right did not co-opt anything


[25-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Synfag#9241
they just said it in their conversations
suddenly "CO-OPTED BY RIGHT WING" all over media


[25-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Serenity#9645
like woke is used more as a look how "enlightened" (sarcasm) this person is. where a red pill is learning the truth behind what the media is lying about or maybe even going into conspiracy in some instances but seen as "truth"


[25-Jul-20 10:55 AM] Serenity#9645
thats at least how ive seen it used


[25-Jul-20 10:55 AM] Synfag#9241
same


[25-Jul-20 10:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. And obviously the media isn't totally trustworthy but I feel like the people who most loudly distrust the media are the types to get their news from even *less* trustworthy "alternative news sites" with a super blatant political bent.

Like, I'll trust an accredited news organization over pretty much anything, despite their flaws. Because the alternatives are worse.


[25-Jul-20 10:58 AM] Synfag#9241
you look at both sides
then you reach your own conclusion based on your findings


[25-Jul-20 10:58 AM] Serenity#9645
eh theres many times ive watched the speech from someone, left or right, and read the news article and it says something entirely different then the speech picking and choosing words to fit a narrative and then its copy pasted across many news outlets


[25-Jul-20 10:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There is no "both sides" when it comes to reporting the facts. That's why I steer far away from commentary/editorial shows.


[25-Jul-20 11:00 AM] Serenity#9645
https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1283888744785940481

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They’re lying to you.

Media outlets & personalities (+ other left-wingers) maliciously took a @PressSec quote out of context (full below) to fraudulently make it sound like she didn’t care about the science she went on to explain supports the move to reopen schools.

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[25-Jul-20 11:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe the best news source is C-SPAN. Just live feed from congress with zero commentary.


[25-Jul-20 11:00 AM] Serenity#9645
yes its biased, but listen to the speech then read ALL of the thread


[25-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Synfag#9241
that was a funny instance of the media twisting happenings


[25-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Opponent#3498
```I mean, Poland is actively hostile to LGBT people, so that's kind of a bad example.```

late to the party, but, you know, the example Serenity had with partnerships, that's _not bad_ for an actively hostile nation/government. It really isn't.


[25-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The science is *not* on the side of opening the schools, so her statement still warrants criticisms.


[25-Jul-20 11:01 AM] Synfag#9241
poor choice of words
she should think carefully when structuring the first and last sentence


[25-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Synfag#9241
because you know journos will think of ways to crop what you say
skewing what you said.


[25-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Serenity#9645
yes it can be critisized, but how can it when its obviously lied about what she said?


[25-Jul-20 11:03 AM] Serenity#9645
i never said i belive it to be right or wrong, im not a doctor i dont know. im just saying how can you actually see what the breif she is giving is talking about when they all just snip one part of a sentence and say look at the idiot she doesnt belive in science!


[25-Jul-20 11:04 AM] Synfag#9241
welcome to modern journalism


[25-Jul-20 11:04 AM] Synfag#9241
its as bad as before


[25-Jul-20 11:05 AM] Synfag#9241
nothing changes
and they never learn from their mistakes
since there is still no consequences


[25-Jul-20 11:05 AM] Serenity#9645
how can that even be close to fair? this was copy pasted everywhere. if i didnt listen to the speech id never know


[25-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's dishonest but I reject the Drew's characterization of these news orgs as "left-wing." I'm left-wing, and I don't think the media is propping up my ideology at all.


[25-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Synfag#9241
they expect the general readers to not listen to the whole speech
you are in the minority that actually watched the whole thing


[25-Jul-20 11:07 AM] Serenity#9645
like i said he is biased, im not looking at his idiotic statement im looking at the screenshots by about 50 high profile people and news media


[25-Jul-20 11:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We should hold the news orgs accountable but I also don't think the alternatives are any better.


[25-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Synfag#9241
there are no alternatives
all have leanings


[25-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Serenity#9645
like synfig said, we are the minority that acutally listens to the speeches, people still tell me trump and his presssec dont care about science to this day


[25-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I'm convinced *Trump* doesn't.


[25-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Serenity#9645
from this article i mean quoting "the science should not stand in the way"


[25-Jul-20 11:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right. I'm just talking about the big picture, looking at *all* his statements and policy decisions.


[25-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Synfag#9241
looking at all his statements and policy decisions.
Trump is an outsider
hated by all sides of establishment level
and making everyone seething


[25-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, the largely establishment Republican congress keeps siding with him.


[25-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Synfag#9241
he should have stayed in realestate business


[25-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm just as pissed at Mitch McConnell as I am with Trump. In some ways, McConnell may be *worse.*


[25-Jul-20 11:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's just not as foot-in-mouth stupid so he doesn't get as much attention.


[25-Jul-20 11:12 AM] Synfag#9241
but the thing is
Trump is what gave america the wake up call


[25-Jul-20 11:13 AM] Serenity#9645
you can critisize and you can say your convinced he doesnt, but how can you take people seriously when everyone just says "the science should not stand in the way" when you know he didnt say that and you know they didnt even do a inch of reserch to get their point


[25-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont care for do nothing republicans, just as much as i dont care about the crazy democrats that want to repeal civil rights law


[25-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, I'm not disagreeing, Serenity.


[25-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Synfag#9241
suddenly, "how long since we thought about ourselves and our own country?"
after meddling in conflicts all over the planet
and taking in so many people


[25-Jul-20 11:14 AM] Synfag#9241
yeah, that guy was a big spark


[25-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Synfag#9241
now we see politicians slapping eachother silly while he's there jumping over the media filter


[25-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think he's at least woken up people who don't think voting matters.

Look at the 2018 midterms. *Tons* of young and mostly left-leaning voters came out and voted. Way more than who usually bother to vote in the midterm elections, especially considering 2016's rather low turnout for a general presidential election.


[25-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If Trump woke us up to anything, it's that a criminally incompetent president *can* be elected and that it's our responsibility to prevent that by voting.


[25-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Synfag#9241
... for Biden.
you sure about that?


[25-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*Yes.*


[25-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I have issues with Biden and we'll get to that after he's elected. But there's no equating the two at *all.*


[25-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Just as I had issues with Obama, but still found him easily preferable to McCain or Romney.


[25-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Serenity#9645
i know its california and i dont want care much about that place, but im still pissed about the "repeal prop 209 affirmative action amendment" that does nothing but cross out from california constitution antidiscrimination laws against race, sex, gender, national origin, and sexual orientation nothing about even adding  affirmative action just remove antidiscrimination laws


[25-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Serenity#9645
and i dont like affermative action, it discriminates on race and gender!


[25-Jul-20 11:19 AM] Synfag#9241
I can see that going nationwide
under Biden


[25-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Affirmative action isn't perfect and I think there are limitations to it, but the reason it exists is to *correct* for discrimination that already happens. It doesn't exist in a vacuum.


[25-Jul-20 11:20 AM] Serenity#9645
removing that prop will allow workplaces and schools to discriminate on those above


[25-Jul-20 11:21 AM] Serenity#9645
effectively we will see black only schools and workplaces, or the inverse. what if your inbetween black and white can you goto both? neither? only places that allow co-ed?


[25-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Wait, what


[25-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Serenity#9645
prop 209 is antidiscrimination laws. without that they can discriminate on race, gender sex, orentation, or national origin


[25-Jul-20 11:24 AM] Serenity#9645
if a workplace says i only want white workers, well its not illigal without antidiscrimination laws


[25-Jul-20 11:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd need to look into a legal analysis of this. I'm not sure if this means there'd simply be no anti-discrimination laws.


[25-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Serenity#9645
its not only for private business its also for government work too under the california constitution


[25-Jul-20 11:27 AM] Serenity#9645
its also for private contractors too, they can deny a service based on your race


[25-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Serenity#9645
all under the guise of a affirmative action act, that in its text only repeals prop 209 and replaces it with nothing


[25-Jul-20 11:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - which is federal law - would still prevent racial discrimination even if state law changed, unless I'm understanding this incorrectly.


[25-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Serenity#9645
hasnt stopped states before if it does, lots of federal law gets ignored. and what happens when the definitions of things change? racism for some reason means the minority races in some definitions. and reverse-racism is now a thing


[25-Jul-20 11:31 AM] Serenity#9645
theres many ways you can make a loophole


[25-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Racism as a *legal* definition doesn't have any respect to which race is doing it.


[25-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is true for other forms of discrimination


[25-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Synfag#9241
*reverse-racism* term was created to push the idea that only white people are racist


[25-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Synfag#9241
and it worked


[25-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Strictly speaking, when the Supreme Court ruled that you can't be fired for your sexuality/gender identity this year, that *also* protected straight and cis people. Not that they tend to get fired for being those things, but in the hypothetical chance it did happen they'd be protected.


[25-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Serenity#9645
ok but now you can discriminate, only hire white people, just cant fire black people


[25-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, obviously that's no good.


[25-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Synfag#9241
but it was not obvious to California


[25-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, maybe I'm not understanding this bill


[25-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe there's more to it and there's finer legal nuance that I'm missing. I'd need to look into it more.


[25-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Synfag#9241
I'm not even kidding


[25-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*Assuming* it's as straightforward as you're saying, I'd be against it though.


[25-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Serenity#9645
you can look up "repeal prop 209 affirmative action act" all it does is cross out prop 209


[25-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Serenity#9645
truthfully even the act being proposed to remove antidiscrimination legislation is already way too many red flags, even if they had text putting in affirmative action thats still discriminating on race, when one race gets acess to a school with lower scores then another race that failed well gaining higher scores


[25-Jul-20 11:40 AM] Serenity#9645
thats discrimination, no matter what race gets the benefit! one is shoved out, and the other thinks they only got in because of the color of their skin and not merit


[25-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Man that was alot of walls of text just to say media bad California bad Biden bad beacuse [fearmongering]


[25-Jul-20 01:33 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1286866843307737088

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[25-Jul-20 01:41 PM] ononim#8141
bruuuuh


[25-Jul-20 02:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems he decided business was too boring on hard and he wants ultra nightmare.


[25-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://globalnews.ca/news/7212899/mike-adams-body-found/amp/

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Body of North Carolina professor found after ‘slave state’ comment ...
Mike Adams had called the state's governor ``Massa Cooper'' and compared coronavirus restrictions to living in a ``slave state.''


[25-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This guy was an idiot anti masker but holy shit don't kill the guy


[25-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Opponent#3498
he was a master of hot takes in general it seems


[25-Jul-20 02:27 PM] Opponent#3498
bet studying under him was an unforgettable experience


[25-Jul-20 05:26 PM] jlun2#8758
the pic makes him look smug


[25-Jul-20 05:44 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity, please don't spread misinformation (or post anyone spreading misinformation) in this channel, she literally says "The President has said unmistakeably that he wants schools to open, and I was just in the Oval talking to him about that, and when he says "open", he means "open and full", kids being able to attend, each and every day at their school. The science should not stand in the way of this." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoE-HVH_bWI

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White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany continued the push to reopen schools as coronavirus cases around the country surge. McEnany said, “The science is on our side here, and we encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science, open our schools.”
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[25-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
like, she literally says this, anyone trying to spin it as "that's not what I said" is likely attempting to spread outright disinformation


[25-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, she goes on to say that "the science supports" other countries reopening schools... but those other countries have already contained and suppressed the virus to the point it's safe to do so


[25-Jul-20 05:50 PM] Crow#5457
the science most definitely doesn't support the US reopening schools


[25-Jul-20 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
science is a little bitch.


[25-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1287066051784642561?s=19

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[25-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boo, that's just a reskinned fascist joke


[25-Jul-20 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/coronavirus-israel-supreme-court-palestinians-prisoners-no-rights-social-distancing

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[25-Jul-20 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Hmmmmm


[25-Jul-20 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
> they could have just stopped at
> > Israeli court rules Palestinian prisoners have no rights
> and left it at that.


[25-Jul-20 07:06 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/black-trump-supporter-shot-death-milwaukee-hours-pro-trump-interview-motive-not-clear/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

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Black Trump Supporter Shot to Death in Milwaukee Hours After Pro-Tr...
Black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell was murdered on Thursday just hours after a pro-Trump interview. Trammell was gunned down shortly after giving an interview on his support for President Trump. Bernell Trammell was shot in the head execution style broad daylight yesterday...
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[25-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Frosku#5874
When you take away other peoples' rights, you forfeit some of your own.


[25-Jul-20 07:15 PM] Synfag#9241
Now tell me this is fake news because it's The Gateway Pundit.


[25-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Article "forgets" to mention he was also a BLM movement supporter


[25-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Synfag#9241
and there it is.


[25-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What, the information you were missing? Yeah, there it is


[25-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Synfag#9241

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[25-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Synfag#9241
> *mulattos lives matter wisconsin*


[25-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Synfag#9241
first question that came to my mind was who would want to kill him
...


[25-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Synfag#9241
> What, the information you were missing? Yeah, there it is
@Teaspoon 

I should have looked into it first if he supported the BLM movement
above everything else.


[25-Jul-20 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku when PragerU falls for the state of affairs to be established meme


[25-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Synfag#9241
It is now legal open season on trump supporters.


[25-Jul-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Legal?


[25-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Synfag#9241
I don't see anyone shouting #blacklivesmatter for that guy


[25-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Opponent#3498
Trumpist BLM supporter huh. Nature never ceases to amaze.


[25-Jul-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because the details of the case are still unclear?


[25-Jul-20 07:37 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Even people on the right largely see PragerU as a shitpost factory by this point.


[25-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Synfag#9241
support for Trump plastered all over his place
gee, I wonder why


[25-Jul-20 07:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Could you guys please stop falling for weird isolated incidents and begin to care about general societal patterns of power? This is getting real tiring


[25-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Synfag#9241
like how that one isolated incident with the knee on the neck sparked chaos all over the US


[25-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean, I could ask the same of the left.


[25-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Frosku#5874
> One cop does something awful.
"ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS LETS ALL RIOT AND BURN DOWN CITIES"


[25-Jul-20 07:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Floyd himself wasn't what sparked the protests, those are one result of decades of mismanagement by justice and police enforcement


[25-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
rioting and burning down cities is fun though. I'd unironically participate without even knowing what's the deal about it.


[25-Jul-20 07:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Floyd was only a trigger


[25-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Those 9 unarmed killings of black men in 2019 sure seem like isolated incidents when there are what? A few hundred thousand cops.


[25-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Synfag#9241
no, Floyd was the excuse


[25-Jul-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is there generalized, organized murder of Trump supporters by people with ties to the ruling system? I don't think so


[25-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Especially when you consider that unarmed doesn't mean unjustified. Someone who tries to swipe my gun and fails is unarmed. Doesn't mean I'm not going to shoot them.


[25-Jul-20 07:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that leftists would need to kill then, Trump supporters can just die out of not wearing a mask in public :wheeze:

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[25-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Synfag#9241
there's the need for a reason to riot to ruin the current system
and Floyd's death was the perfect excuse


[25-Jul-20 07:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Floyd's death was *one* justification


[25-Jul-20 07:42 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Not one cop and not once case. this stuff has been going on for a long time. the floyd case just happened to be the straw that breaks. 
everyone was at home online where they would be unable to avoid seeing what happened.


[25-Jul-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Either way i don't think the working class should need a casus belli for disobeying the authorities and the powers that be


[25-Jul-20 07:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 do they even die? im not convinced they do :zombiepony:


[25-Jul-20 07:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If there's a recurrent problem, organize and act to solve it ASAP


[25-Jul-20 07:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@jlun2 they will die eventually, just be patient


[25-Jul-20 07:44 PM] jlun2#8758
young people doing things real life :wheeze:


[25-Jul-20 07:45 PM] jlun2#8758
we are keyboard warriors, not real activists


[25-Jul-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s been a few dozen people who died of covid after thinking it was a hoax and then catching it themselves


[25-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Synfag#9241
The game of telephone
Watch Bernell Trammell be crucified and labeled  every -ism-phobe in the book
until his death becomes a blip.


[25-Jul-20 07:47 PM] jlun2#8758
:zombiepony:


[25-Jul-20 07:47 PM] jlun2#8758
they will be resurrected by the boomer gods later


[25-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Synfag#9241
Joe Biden: *“That man isn’t black.”*


[25-Jul-20 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, he literally supported the party and interest group that regularly defends the current state of affairs in regards to repression of black communities, so...


[25-Jul-20 07:49 PM] Synfag#9241
Trunks: *HOLD YOUR FIRE, THIS MAN ISNT BLACK*


[25-Jul-20 07:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that democrats are different, but supporting the GOP is a more obvious matter


[25-Jul-20 07:50 PM] Synfag#9241
but at least something good comes out of this

Now that this guy was killed, he will be voting Democrat


[25-Jul-20 07:50 PM] jlun2#8758
we're too busy voting about religion, abortion & toilets to care :ts_cry:


[25-Jul-20 07:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Voting should be a secondary measure to labor struggle imo


[25-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Synfag#9241
Surprised they didn't say it was a covid death.


[25-Jul-20 07:53 PM] jlun2#8758
im fucked by underemployment & the voting block (past gen) only cares about religion & sex & other shit that doesnt affect me
(i voted btw)


[25-Jul-20 07:54 PM] jlun2#8758
"our community is getting oppressed & our wages are flat"
"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BABIES???"


[25-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Which party freed the slaves, again?


[25-Jul-20 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[25-Jul-20 07:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Which party fought Jim Crow? I might be forgetting.


[25-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Which party supported the voting rights act?


[25-Jul-20 07:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Imagine thinking party identity and not class composition and interest matters


[25-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Frosku#5874
The GOP are a crock of shit, but trying to pin racism on them is irrelevant.


[25-Jul-20 07:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Are the Dems a party of working-class interests, in any way? I don't see it if so.


[25-Jul-20 07:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're mostly not except for the progressive wing, both them and the GOP are largely just the political front of the rich


[25-Jul-20 07:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I'd largely agree with that, both parties are owned and operated for and in the interests of billionaires.


[25-Jul-20 07:58 PM] jlun2#8758
are the billionaires religious?


[25-Jul-20 07:58 PM] Frosku#5874
That doesn't mean there aren't individuals in both parties who care about the working classes, of which I'd argue Trump is one, ironically given how much shit he gets from the far-left.


[25-Jul-20 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This whole "pointing at each other for racism" deal is just to keep the working class divided and in belief that the solutions to racism come from politicians


[25-Jul-20 07:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats and republicans are more liek many squirrels wearing overcoats trying to look like unified parties


[25-Jul-20 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump is popular with a chunk of the working class, but that doesn't mean he acts in their interest


[25-Jul-20 07:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, Democrats want you to believe that solutions to racism come from politicians. Largely that's only true when the racism is legislated by politicians i.e. slavery or Jim Crow. Politicians can't fix culture.


[25-Jul-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true but they can introduce legislation to reform systems that instigate racism


[25-Jul-20 08:00 PM] Frosku#5874
I think Trump acts in what he *thinks* are the interests of the working class, a lot of the time. On issues like tariffs -- where he gets a lot of grief from his own party -- he is largely *trying* to help the working class.


[25-Jul-20 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In general Trump's support base is actually the reactionary petit-bourgeoisie, old retirees, certain big businesses, et al


[25-Jul-20 08:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But some working class people do support him actually


[25-Jul-20 08:01 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't actually agree with him on tariffs at all, but they're not usually something supported by laissez-faire capitalists. They're largely supported by working class people and unions.


[25-Jul-20 08:01 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, he has a lot of working class support, and to a degree I can understand the appeal.


[25-Jul-20 08:02 PM] jlun2#8758
are the tarriffs even doing a thing outside pissing off china & businesses?


[25-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Pissing off Europe too.


[25-Jul-20 08:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
costing american businesses fortunes because that's who pays them?


[25-Jul-20 08:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Trump's measures against China and other blocs are also an imperialist measure


[25-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, the American consumer ultimately pays them, but the argument in favor of tariffs is that they create a level playing field for American workers.


[25-Jul-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He apparently wishes to have the internal economy of the US strengthened to preserve its power against the encroaching Chinese


[25-Jul-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
harley davidson had to build a branch in europe because the tarrifs made importing the bikes too expensive


[25-Jul-20 08:03 PM] jlun2#8758
factories dont get build in 1 term tho
(would be amazing if it did tho)


[25-Jul-20 08:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevermind that tariffs are the only measure he's taking


[25-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, many would argue that immigration controls help American workers.


[25-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Frosku#5874
And certainly a lot of the opposition to immigration controls comes from billionaires and big business.


[25-Jul-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not really, unless the American working class wants the jobs left vacant by the deported immigrants


[25-Jul-20 08:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
immigrants actually fill in for the jobs americans dont want


[25-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Frosku#5874
An infinite supply of cheap labor doesn't do much to improve wages or working conditions.


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Keep in mind that immigrants don't have as many bargaining rights as citizen workers do


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] jlun2#8758
i wonder what jobs do the voters have in mind immigrants have vs the reality?


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like cheap farm jobs, and other cheap jobs that pay too low for an american to want them


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Frosku#5874
The reason American workers don't want them, for the most part, is because the working standards and wages are dreadful, but that's *because* there is an infinite supply of cheap labor.


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thus, if they get uppity, bosses and capitalists have a much easier time firing them or denouncing them to the ICE


[25-Jul-20 08:05 PM] jlun2#8758
personally i see immigrants all the time at restaurants, stores & warehouse jobs
not sure if the voters want those


[25-Jul-20 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i generally feel like keeping the immigrants is actually an advantage for the American working class if they choose to organize for and then with them


[25-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Frosku#5874
@jlun2 I know a lot of Americans who would be very happy just to have a job right now.


[25-Jul-20 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, many have a job already and are still unhappy because they don't get paid much


[25-Jul-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would love a job if they paid me enough to live off of.


[25-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Frosku Look up "Southern Strategy"


[25-Jul-20 08:07 PM] Frosku#5874
That's true @BadgingBadger🦄🌈.


[25-Jul-20 08:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

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In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and ...
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[25-Jul-20 08:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Strike action and unionizing is what leads to higher wages most of the time


[25-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Frosku#5874
But the infinite supply of cheap labor is not particularly helping the labor rates.


[25-Jul-20 08:08 PM] jlun2#8758
striking in a contract job :wheeze:


[25-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Frosku#5874
If I flood the market with steel, the price of steel will go down. Basic supply & demand.


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're kinda confusing commodities with proletarians tho


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Frosku#5874
Labor is also bought and sold on the market.


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
"you're not an employee; you're an independent contractor this business relies on"


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] jlun2#8758
why is this not cracked down


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"You aren't an employee, you;re a product. now get to work, product!"


[25-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Frosku#5874
Because there's nothing wrong with contracting.


[25-Jul-20 08:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Labor is a service, not a product, *you* are not your labor, you are selling your labor.


[25-Jul-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Keep in mind, though, that migrant workers are also prone to striking and organization, often in solidarity with non-migrant workers


[25-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Frosku#5874
That doesn't help when you can just fire all the workers and replace them with others who agree not to organize, *because* they have no bargaining power, *because* there is an infinite supply.


[25-Jul-20 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farah_strike

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Farah strike
The Farah strike (1972–1974) was a labor strike by the employees of Farah Manufacturing Company, a clothing company in El Paso, Texas and New Mexico. The strike started at the Farah plant in San Antonio in 1972 when the Hispanic women, called Chicanas, led by Sylvia M. Trevino...


[25-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Frosku#5874
If there are 10 people in the country who can do one job, and 10 million who can do another job, generally the 10 will be far better compensated because they're not replaceable.


[25-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-DPuvI6b0M

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Why aren’t government officials questioning the unfunded pension liabilities? 
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[25-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Frosku#5874
When you flood the market for unskilled labor, that doesn't work in favor of unskilled laborers.


[25-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Until quite recently it was business arguing for less immigration controls and the left arguing for more immigration controls.


[25-Jul-20 08:14 PM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon hey, i read about that. am curious will any boomers be affected or "nah i'll just liquidate one of my several houses i bought for 30k 50 years ago dw"


[25-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Most boomers don't have 'several houses' my dude.


[25-Jul-20 08:14 PM] jlun2#8758
my aunt does :ts_cry:


[25-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Frosku#5874
My aunt does too but she's not a boomer :P


[25-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They act like they might, like it's just within reach, so they act like they do


[25-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm pretty sure I'm wealthier than any of the boomers in my family tbh.


[25-Jul-20 08:15 PM] jlun2#8758
other way around for me


[25-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't want to make any moves against the wealthy because one day _they_ might be wealthy


[25-Jul-20 08:15 PM] jlun2#8758
but hey my aunt keeps giving us weird mlm stuff for free so :shrugpony:


[25-Jul-20 08:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Frosku that is true, even the old union movements in the US were in favor of immigration controls and supported the Chinese Exclusion Act for example


[25-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, because those unions understood that an infinite supply of unskilled labor dilutes workers' power to bargain.


[25-Jul-20 08:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But in general, social democracy isn't a state of affairs that is built to last though


[25-Jul-20 08:16 PM] jlun2#8758
im just waiting for robots for real to replace jobs, & not some app


[25-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
@Frosku you are very much the exception of the rule, both inside US and out. Not entirely unique, but still vanishingly rare.


[25-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Frosku#5874
Social democracy is just a state of conflict between socialists and capitalists. It's not a permanent state.


[25-Jul-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalist national societies cannot survive for much long without expanding


[25-Jul-20 08:17 PM] jlun2#8758
almost every article about "NEW AI REVOLUTION" is some fucking app
why isnt my phone doing the dishes, counting inventory, cooking meals, etc?

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[25-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
@jlun2 I mean automation has been replacing jobs since the first man tied a plow to an ox.


[25-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
The Luddites destroyed cars because they were afraid cars would destroy the livelihoods of horsecarriage drivers.


[25-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Frosku#5874
That's just the nature of progress. We replace unfulfilling work with machines (or in an older context, animals) which makes more time for fulfilling work.


[25-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Frosku#5874
I guess we could easily argue that this began right back with the agricultural revolution replacing hunter-gathering work.


[25-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Capitalism is unique in not requiring expansion to thrive.


[25-Jul-20 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It requires expansion lol


[25-Jul-20 08:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Hong Kong survived pretty well without expansion up until socialist totalitarians decided to swallow it up.


[25-Jul-20 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the whole ordeal behind Jeff Bezos' pile of wealth increasing sixfold in size every year or so


[25-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1286866843307737088>

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[25-Jul-20 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd actually say that Hong Kong is not an entity in itself but a conduit for capitalist activities


[25-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Elon <3


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Frosku#5874
His shitposts are second only to Notch.


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't even know where his lithium comes from, and neither does that other person


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It comes from Chile, not Bolivia or Australia.


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does he not actually run his company?


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
certainly not the procurement part of it.


[25-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
that's boring, unfulfilling work :D


[25-Jul-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
Elon's view was actually more nuanced than you think

He was saying it was ineffective because a huge portion of the stimulus money went to corporate bailouts instead of to individuals


[25-Jul-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
So you can put your pitchforks down on that one


[25-Jul-20 08:25 PM] byte[]#2610
He's still an ignorant asshole though


[25-Jul-20 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The second response, though? Kinda suspicious


[25-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Frosku#5874
He's just a shitposter.


[25-Jul-20 08:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's also a capitalist


[25-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Definitely


[25-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
According to The Internet, a quarter of all the known lithium deposits are in Bolivia


[25-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Frosku#5874
That's why I love him in a very platonic way.


[25-Jul-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
he's "interesting"


[25-Jul-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
Clearly shitposts never have consequences ever and trolling people on twitter is a productive personal pastime we should encourage


[25-Jul-20 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Loving capitalists? Now that's what i call cringe fam


[25-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Frosku#5874
He's a genius, most geniuses are interesting and a little crazy.


[25-Jul-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
if he were poor he'd be called crazy & cancelled :wheeze:


[25-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Frosku#5874
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 If you were a newbro artist, you'd probably look up to artists who are better than you.


[25-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Frosku#5874
Generally I find success -- especially when it's hugely positive for the environment -- to be an admirable trait.


[25-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
He's a capitalist and he's clearly making the world a better place, what's not to like?


[25-Jul-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't put much stake in the "Musk is a genius" claim; he got lucky enough times to make him wealthy enough to avoid the consequences of his bigger failures and ideas that didn't pan out, failures that would ordinarily destroy anyone else


[25-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Frosku#5874
He took a good idea -- electric vehicles -- and turned it into something cool instead of something just for hippies.


[25-Jul-20 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah he just wants to monopolize the renewable energy industry as he prepares for the possible future collapse of oil


[25-Jul-20 08:30 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He gives money to people that know what to do with it.


[25-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Nah Elon is a visionary, Zuck too.


[25-Jul-20 08:31 PM] wren#0114
> Clearly shitposts never have consequences ever and trolling people on twitter is a productive personal pastime we should encourage

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[25-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Bezos as well


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Honahue#0656
>he's a genius
I wish this meme would stop, he has a BS in physics which mean he can do calc p. good not really a genius


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's forward-thinking for sure, but to say that he doesn't have capitalist interests as a member of a competing part of the bourgeoisie is kinda dumb


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
elon knows enough about the fields to be a competent micromanager for spacex and tesla


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Serenity#9645
@Crow  before calling me a liar at least read the transcript if you dont wanna listen to the speech. Dont spread misinformation and here is the transcript instead of your shitty biased news article. all i said snipping from a few paragraphs is just "the science should not stay in the way of this" without adding "the science is on our side" or "follow the science" in shitty news articles is pretty shitty reporting. if they reported that they dont believe the science is on her side i could make a argument, not haha trump denies science were all dead that you see in many articles. i also said im not a doctor nor will give medical advice on the topic (edit: here's the link if you wanna read more https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-white-house-press-conference-transcript-july-16/amp )

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July 16 press conference with White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany. McEnany addressed reopening U.S. schools, saying "the science should not stand in the way of this," and went on to say, "the science is on our side here" and to "follow the science." Read her full Whit...
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[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Opponent#3498
DO NOT SPREAD HERESY


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue I'm using genius in the visionary sense, rather than the super-intelligent sense. He's the type of person who solves problems.


[25-Jul-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm also a visionary, but you never hear people yelling my name from the rooftops raving about my genius because I never made bank from any of my ideas

I'm also not currently dependent on benzos and amphetamines which I'd argue is a plus


[25-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Serenity#9645
I love autocorrect lol


[25-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] Well, there are plenty of us who are visionaries but not as good at selling it tbh.


[25-Jul-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
At the end of the day, profit is always the objective. Musk's rise was kind of inevitable with the march of technology


[25-Jul-20 08:33 PM] wren#0114
entrepreneurs are kind of folk heros in the us


[25-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Not necessarily entrepreneurs, but the ones who change how life works yes.


[25-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Within his lifetime, Musk has done something to benefit most of us. That's why I appreciate him.


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I can appreciate that Musk has popularized EVs and made them "cool" to the rest of the market


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
i want to go to space without selling a house


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to spoil your dreams but i feel like the future capitalists will still find a way to fuck over the lower classes by overpricing electric cars


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Even if he stopped at PayPal, he pretty much opened up payments to everyone without banks as gatekeepers, though PayPal is now being as much of a gatekeeper as the banks were.


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Honahue#0656
I'm not really sure what Musk has done that's visionary instead of just incremental, reuseable space craft, electric cars, evacuated tube trains, and the Loop are all things that have been thought of before


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't have to like anything else he's done, including exploitation of slave labor for resource extraction and Appleizing the EV and solar industries


[25-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Frosku#5874
The idea was out there.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
Paypal? The same Paypal that now acts like global moral police?


[25-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue I'd say PayPal was actually the most visionary thing he built, though making EVs 'cool' was important too.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I suppose that benefits some people.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent He doesn't own it any more, that's a big part of the issue. His vision for PayPal was a global and neutral payment processor.


[25-Jul-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@Frosku is there any country u can even make a payment processor without legal issues for the sin of hosting horse porn because CHILDREN THINK


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] wren#0114
> exploitation of slave labor
we really need to stop outsourcing to china and other nations which don't care. This is a huge problem across the board not just one company


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
@jlun2 It's called Bitcoin :P


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
cryptocurrency is generally an option


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
Also, you can get your business PCI certified (at significant expense, but it is possible)


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
But Bitcoin would not exist if not for PayPal and the widespread demand for person-to-person payments.


[25-Jul-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
And you can handle card payments directly that way


[25-Jul-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
No intermediates necessary


[25-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Imagine having to send a BACS request for every piece of art you commission, with a $30 processing fee and potentially days for the money to land. That was life before PayPal.


[25-Jul-20 08:38 PM] jlun2#8758
i feel like im going to get in trouble for that tho


[25-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Honahue#0656
I'd be okay with bitcoin not existing as it's mostly driven up the cost of GPU's and negated the effects of renewable power on humanities carbon footprint


[25-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I wouldn't. Bitcoin has democratized money.


[25-Jul-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Quick answer: if you have the money to spend on getting PCI compliance for a business, you have the money to spend on a legal team


[25-Jul-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue you make a bitcoin miner only hardware


[25-Jul-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
Bitcoin has done little to increase the price of GPUs, that falls on the shoulder of altcoins. Bitcoin mining is done using specialized ASIC


[25-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Well you'd potentially needs FCS certification too though? Unless you want the issue to move from your credit card processor to your bank.


[25-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah no one has used GPUs to mine Bitcoin since like 2013.


[25-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Except botnets, anyway.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
However, I don't see a compelling reason to promote the continued use of cryptocurrency over fiat because it _is_ a massive waste of resources


[25-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I have pretty negative outlook of Paypal even before the moral policing. It achived more or less monopoly and used that for political purposes. It doesn't cover Ukraine for instance, we've been told it's because we had a shitty government, but looking at Russia _that's_ clearly only a minor concern. Probably someone didn't want to play ball with US, back before we didn't have this war business going on and had a choice.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe it's amazing in US. I wouldn't know.


[25-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Frosku#5874
That's geopolitics though, not PayPal.


[25-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] What are your thoughts on proof-of-stake cryptocurrencies ala Ethereum?


[25-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I think PoS solves a lot of the environmental issues.


[25-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Honahue#0656
Musk didn't even make PayPal anyway they merged with Musks other company


[25-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Besides, when the world finally switches to pure renewable energy sources, Bitcoin's PoW won't be a problem.


[25-Jul-20 08:43 PM] byte[]#2610
My understanding last I looked at it was there had been significant problems demonstrated with the concept that allowed double spending


[25-Jul-20 08:43 PM] jlun2#8758
is that even scaleable to billions of ppl with renewables @Frosku


[25-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Frosku#5874
@jlun2 Yes because most people don't need to operate mining nodes.


[25-Jul-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
most people will probably use fiat well into the future


[25-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Frosku#5874
You just need enough mining nodes to secure the network.


[25-Jul-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
it has a lot going for it that isn't desirable to give up like the ability for a consumer to dispute or get a refund on charges where a product was not as advertised


[25-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
it's Paypal being an instrument of geopolitics. Yeah hate the game not the player and all that. Doesn't make perception any better really.


[25-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] True, though that's not unique to fiat, it's just unique to gatekeepers.


[25-Jul-20 08:45 PM] byte[]#2610
or outright fraudulent. there's also no block posting delay with fiat, the transfer is immediate (unless you talk about ACH, but that's a stupid US thing)


[25-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Frosku#5874
I could offer a service where you send me Bitcoin and I wait until you get your product and confirm it's okay before paying the seller.


[25-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Which is essentially how chargebacks work on the small scale -- card processors withold incoming funds or take an insurance cut on them to fund chargebacks.


[25-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Frosku#5874
But then you have a gatekeeper.


[25-Jul-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
now as a merchant you have to wait twice as long for a transaction to post


[25-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Frosku#5874
If I decide "herp derp you sold foalcon so I wont work for you", that's your problem for allowing a gatekeeper into the network.


[25-Jul-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
crypto isn't the scalable system people believe it is


[25-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Crypto is scaleable, Bitcoin not so much.


[25-Jul-20 08:47 PM] byte[]#2610
block delays are LONG especially at usual reward rates


[25-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Lightning Network seems to solve a lot of issues there, but it's a trade-off.


[25-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Honahue#0656
ah yes the velocity of money


[25-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
@byte[] I think most of the issues of scalability are solved by Ethereum + sidechains to be honest, but it's much more technologically complex than Bitcoin which makes it more prone to user error. There are trade-offs in all things.


[25-Jul-20 08:50 PM] byte[]#2610
there are two ends you can go to


[25-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Bitcoins benefit is its simplicity, but that's also its biggest limitation.


[25-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
It is a slow chugging juggernaut of a network.


[25-Jul-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
the first end is that you can make a blockchain based network, which introduces you to delay based attacks, where an attacker floods the blockchain with useless spending that impairs next to all legitimate traffic


[25-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Because it's optimized for correctness, not for convenience.


[25-Jul-20 08:51 PM] byte[]#2610
the second end is that you make a DHT based network, which introduces you to size based attacks, where an attacker floods your local copy of the table with massive amounts of unique transactions that overload your ability to index the hash table


[25-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, this is why ethereum has gas (cost to broadcast). If you want to flood the network with nuisance transactions, it's costly.


[25-Jul-20 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
you can't win without decentralizing the system and introducing numerous individual currencies, which impairs most of its usability, because it's unlikely people will agree to exchange them, and if they did, then they will probably introduce a centralized system for doing it, which sort of defeats the point


[25-Jul-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
I think blockchain and DHT are both great ideas, and I use them both in day to day use (git is one, so is the CT log) I just don't think they're a good idea to use for a currency


[25-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't generally agree with that, we're pretty good at valuing one currency against another.


[25-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Frosku#5874
The world already has a lot of currencies, and yet international transfers are trivial now.


[25-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Frosku#5874
The problem is the inherent trade-off of decentralized (and inconvenient) against centralized (and convenient) and there's no real way to overcome that.


[25-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Frosku#5874
Smart contracts are the closest thing.


[25-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Frosku#5874
They retain decentralization whilst allowing us to set parameters around a transaction.


[25-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity, first of all, I never called you a liar, I literally said to not post people spreading misinformation, second of all, literally none of the linked articles or tweets in that tweet thread say what you're claiming (none of them add "the science is on our side" or "follow the science")


[25-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
there is no evidence of your claim or the claims of the tweeter


[25-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Frosku#5874
And there are now smart contracts which exist on multiple chains and trivialize exchange of currency between them.


[25-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Frosku#5874
If I have ETH and want ETC, I can do that transfer without any need for trust. I can verify how the contracts work and make that transfer automatically.


[25-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Frosku#5874
https://medium.com/akomba/peace-bridge-connecting-ethereum-classic-and-ethereum-e306df01159f

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[25-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Serenity#9645
@Crow what is misinformation on the topic? many news articles cut out one sentence of paragraphs and toted that as a anti-science stance. theres many big personalities and comments on these articles saying i cant believe they want to open schools because of the non-belief in science. seems pretty clear that there is some mis-information going around and its not from me saying read the transcript before you blindly follow


[25-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
the misinformation is that she LITERALLY SAID "The science should not stand in the way of this." when referring to reopening schools


[25-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
that is LITERALLY what she said, word for word


[25-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
they're trying to claim that ISN'T what she said


[25-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
that it was somehow taken out of context


[25-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
that's why I think it's actually disinformation because there's no way to somehow take that sentence out of context


[25-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
but it's misinformation at the very least


[25-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Serenity#9645
i didnt deny that she said it, i said many times there is way more then that, other people there at the time we were talking about it knew and was like yeah that was very shitty framing


[25-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
there's also no evidence that anyone is saying anything more than that either


[25-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
there's absolutely no need to put a spin on the statement "The science should not stand in the way of this." because the statement itself is already an amazing headline


[25-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Frosku#5874
"The science should not stand in the way of this" could be interpreted to mean "my understanding is that the science does not stand in the way of this"


[25-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Frosku#5874
But best-faith interpretations are very 1920s, especially when it comes to the Trump admin.


[25-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
that's.. not how words work? that's a completely different statement


[25-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
and she personally said that she didn't word it wrong either


[25-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
she's saying it was somehow taken out of context


[25-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Serenity#9645
people are taking it as she doesnt care about the science were doing it anyways tho


[25-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Frosku#5874
It's actually not, 'should' has a lot of meanings in colloquial English.

If I say "it should not be a problem for you to post foalcon" that can be taken many ways.

It could mean:
- I believe that you are allowed to post foalcon;
- I believe that you should be allowed to post foalcon, but you are not allowed to.


[25-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Frosku#5874
'should' is an imprecise operator.


[25-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Usually we would discern between those meanings with tone and context.


[25-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Frosku#5874
If I'm railing about censorship, it's probably the latter. If I'm advising someone on rules, it's probably the former.


[25-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Frosku#5874
If I wanted to be precise, I **should** use more words or clearer words.


[25-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Serenity#9645
without the extra context you can get people that think this

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[25-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Frosku#5874
When the context also includes "follow the science" and "the science agrees with us", the sentence is probably meant to be interpreted to mean "under my best understanding, the science does not advise against doing this".


[25-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
that still doesn't change the fact that the sentence you wrote was completely different from what was said, especially given the context of the statement and her tone


[25-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Frosku#5874
If the context was "the scientists have been wrong" and "education is more important than the few lives that will be lost", I would assume she meant "we should not allow the science to stand in the way of this". I guess that's my point.


[25-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Frosku#5874
She did herself no favors using nebulous language, but the least-charitable approach to interpreting the language is characteristic of the modern dialectic.


[25-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Frosku#5874
It seems like we've moved, since about 1990, steadily away from discussing ideas and towards trying to do 'gotchas', and it's pretty depressing.


[25-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
the thing is that what you're saying doesn't match up with how she said it, you're arguing that she meant something more along the lines of "The science does not stand in the way of this.", which is a near-identical but an entirely different sentence


[25-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, and that's why I'd prefer her to use less nebulous language, but the context argues that's what she meant.


[25-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
but instead of saying that, she said "The science should not stand in the way of this." as a clear and direct statement


[25-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Well "should" in this instance could be used as an 'insurance word' against future changes in the science. A better phrase would be "The science, as it stands, does not stand in the way of this".


[25-Jul-20 09:32 PM] Frosku#5874
But people rarely speak precisely outside of academia in my experience, nebulous words are used all the time.


[25-Jul-20 09:33 PM] Frosku#5874
The science on COVID is clearly still moving.


[25-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't necessarily agree with what she's saying either, I think you'd need some social distancing measures and probably masks to make reopening work, and children with compromised immune systems should still be at home, but I don't think there's a good faith argument that what she meant was "fuck the science".


[25-Jul-20 09:34 PM] Serenity#9645
better put then i could have said but thats my point


[25-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Honahue#0656
the science on treating Covid is still movieg but what is already known is that isolation worked to slow the spread and if that had been the order earlier we probably would be able to reopen now instead of sending kids to school to bring covid back to their parents


[25-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Honahue#0656
there's gonna be more than a few children orphaned because of this


[25-Jul-20 09:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Isolation worked because we didn't understand the mechanisms of transmission very well and therefore we couldn't mitigate it.


[25-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Isolation would also stop the transmission of flu, but we generally consider the dangers of isolation to outweigh the dangers of flu.


[25-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
another major problem is that there is no other way to state that "the science will not be allowed to stand in the way of reopening schools" in the way that her statement comes off as


[25-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Honahue#0656
flu doesn't have a 4% mortality


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Some strains do, but it's beside the point. We understand how to mitigate transmission and how to treat flu far better than we do COVID.


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Honahue#0656
actually it's down today


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] jlun2#8758
is US becoming more religious & rejecting science?


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly the tone she said it in infers mroe towards "The science should get out of our way, we're doing what we want regardless of what it says"


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow I would imagine the correct way to state that non-nebulously would be along the lines of "We will not allow the science to stand in the way of this".


[25-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Honahue#0656
technically no the US population is become less religious but our leadership doesn't reflect the population


[25-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, I don't think Trump is particularly religious, let's be honest. :P


[25-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Honahue#0656
he'll certainly use it and he is the ideal Calvinist


[25-Jul-20 09:38 PM] Serenity#9645
theres also non-theistic religions


[25-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I know a lot of very religious people and I don't think any of them are particularly convinced by Trump's religious morals.


[25-Jul-20 09:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Many will vote for him anyway.


[25-Jul-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he doesn't really have religious morals but he does have religious pandering, and that's what counts


[25-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah, people in my family compared him to Sampson and I was morose after that. Still Trump does use religious rhetoric and that's good enough for the fundamentalist


[25-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think he wins many votes through that, I think generally he wins the religious vote on judges.


[25-Jul-20 09:40 PM] Honahue#0656
Sola Scriptura was the beginning of the anti-intellectual side of Christianity


[25-Jul-20 09:40 PM] jlun2#8758
economy tbh :ts_cry:


[25-Jul-20 09:41 PM] jlun2#8758
are religious folks all well paid with houses?


[25-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Frosku#5874
No


[25-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Serenity#9645
definately no


[25-Jul-20 09:41 PM] Honahue#0656
well Calvinist believe in prosperity gospel so if Trump is rich then God likes him


[25-Jul-20 09:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Most 'very religious' people in the US are not well paid or well educated.


[25-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Generally hardship drives people towards religion, and success drives people away from it. It's not a hard-and-fast rule, there are definitely a lot of exceptions, but on the population scale that's true.


[25-Jul-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
do they think god (or the judges) will somehow raise wages?


[25-Jul-20 09:43 PM] Honahue#0656
nah but they will stop abortions


[25-Jul-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
what will they do after? not economy i guess?


[25-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
the funniest thing about the argument about whether mcenany was taken out of context or not? she would be outright lying if she meant it as "the science isn't standing in our way", there is data that directly shows that the science is standing in the way of reopening schools


[25-Jul-20 09:45 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically the ultimate fail


[25-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Serenity#9645
and there is data supporting it as well, if you read the transcript she even sites advisors XD


[25-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
she's either saying the science will not get in the way of reopening schools, or she's lying about the scientific stance on reopening schools


[25-Jul-20 09:46 PM] Serenity#9645
i dont care about it being right or wrong in the end and im not going to pick and choose what doctor says what. cus i dont know.


[25-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
```are religious folks all well paid with houses?```


[25-Jul-20 09:48 PM] jlun2#8758
do the voting block even cares about this? arent they like 50+ with adult children anyways? this seems like a distraction


[25-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Serenity#9645
but saying she doesnt have studies well in her speech giving names and then saying she means this is why is the whole point


[25-Jul-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, there's one doctor mentioned by name (scott atlas) whose job, experience, and credentials isn't even related to epidemiology


[25-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://profiles.stanford.edu/scott-atlas

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[25-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Crow#5457
he studies the economic effects of medical research


[25-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Opponent#3498
religion has the wonderful aspect of fueling you when nothing else would. I think it's why middle east is rife with religious warfare and extremism. When all you have to your name is this mule, this AKM and this holy book, faith makes the existence tolerable, and fighting heretics gives life purpose.


[25-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Crow#5457
they basically found a doctor willing to make statements in favor of reopening schools who isn't involved in epidemiology at all


[25-Jul-20 09:50 PM] Serenity#9645
so he is a advisor? probably having strong ties to institutions that study with that kinda expertise

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[25-Jul-20 09:50 PM] jlun2#8758
meanwhile my "purpose" atm is uploading cute (prob russian) fluffy ponies for a site in civil war :wheeze:


[25-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 it is a righteous cause.


[25-Jul-20 09:53 PM] Honahue#0656
should probably just liste to Fauci considering every medical student in the US has the Big Book of Medicine he helped write on their shelf


[25-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Serenity#9645
i mean fauci has been pretty flip flop on everything and has lied before too


[25-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Honahue#0656

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[25-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
another thing that scott atlas ignored was the fact that even if children have a much lower chance of facing outright death from coronavirus, not only would thousand of children still be dying from reopening schools, they would be forced out of school for weeks and possibly months for recovery, and even those kids who don't have the worst symptoms will be bringing the virus back home as well


[25-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity, prove it


[25-Jul-20 09:55 PM] Serenity#9645
remember when he said wearing a mask wont (help) stop the spread of a virus that is close to other types of coronavirus that we know masks help good times


[25-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Serenity#9645
i never said the decision was right, im actually against the opening of schools. what is there to prove? i even said that i wasnt for the dicision. just against the framing lol


[25-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
you just said that fauci has been "flip flop" and "lied" before


[25-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
prove it


[25-Jul-20 09:58 PM] jlun2#8758
> it is a righteous cause.
is this even sustainable? ignoring job prospect policies for the sake of some moral crusade that goes against demographic trends? (ie. ppl getting less kids, so becoming less relevant)
@Opponent


[25-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/08/facebook-posts/video-shows-outdated-face-mask-guidance-dr-anthony/

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[25-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
> The clip left out, for instance, one reason Fauci gave for some Americans wearing a mask: "The masks are important for someone who’s infected to prevent them from infecting someone else."


[25-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Crow#5457
the early guidance was that if you thought you were sick, wear a mask


[25-Jul-20 09:59 PM] Crow#5457
after it was found out this thing was literally everywhere and there were many people who were infected that didn't show signs of infection, the guidance was changed to "everyone wear masks"


[25-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
and that's the only case I can find of fauci supposedly "flip flopping"


[25-Jul-20 10:01 PM] Serenity#9645
https://www.kpcw.org/post/fauci-mixed-messaging-masks-set-us-public-health-response-back#stream/0

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While conceding missteps in the federal response to the coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday it is not too late to avoid the dire picture he
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[25-Jul-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He changed his statement based on the information available


[25-Jul-20 10:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as more information was gathered, his advisories changed because the information called for it


[25-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Frosku#5874
In the first place there was a mask shortage and the lives saved by making sure masks were available to medical staff were a greater concern than lives saved by making the general public wear masks. This led to mixed messaging.


[25-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I saw that one first, there's nothing in that article relevant to the claims that fauci "flip flopped" or "lied"


[25-Jul-20 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 I meant uploading fluffy russian ponies ;_;


[25-Jul-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
oh sorry. & ty


[25-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Serenity#9645
hes also flipped many times on travel bans not just masks


[25-Jul-20 10:06 PM] Frosku#5874
I think Fauci's doing the best he can in a tough situation.


[25-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Frosku#5874
The information is changing on a weekly basis and he's trying to keep up, which makes messaging hard.


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Naturally as our understanding improves, the policy results will change.


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
now you add in another claim you're refusing to prove


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Serenity#9645
i think he is too but to say he doesnt flip flop is crazy even if it is from new information


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Crow#5457
stop making claims you can't prove


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He advises based on what information is available. It's not flipping to change your stance on things as more information comes in, especially in a plague level pandemic


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Serenity#9645
https://gizmodo.com/white-house-advisor-dr-fauci-flip-flops-on-whether-tra-1842308441

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White House Advisor Dr. Fauci Flip-Flops on Whether Travel Bans Wor...
President Donald Trump announced a travel ban on flights coming from 26 European countries on Wednesday, something that many public health experts believe is ineffective now that covid-19 is spreading quickly in the United States. But Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of President Trump’...
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[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Science itself on such a new area of research is going to 'flip flop'.


[25-Jul-20 10:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Even the scientists don't agree. Compare Imperial College model to Oxford Model, those are both top tier universities. They don't agree.


[25-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Frosku#5874
Because no one has enough data to make accurate models.


[25-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
this article doesn't even say he flip flopped, he was asked if he thinks there was going to be a travel ban, he said no because it was way past the time it would've been effective


[25-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Travel bans are largely only effective before the disease gets to the border


[25-Jul-20 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/did-dr-fauci-disagree-with-trumps

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Did Dr. Fauci Disagree With Trump’s Decision to Curtail Travel From...
No.
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[25-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity, no where in the gizmodo article does it say that fauci changed his stance on whether or not there should be a travel ban, he only stated his opinion on whether or not there would be a travel ban


[25-Jul-20 10:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe he disagreed in a private conversation, or played devil's advocate, which Trump took as disagreement?


[25-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Or maybe Trump just likes to shift the blame, idk. :P


[25-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
apparently fauci's always been supportive of a travel ban, but he wanted it way back in january


[25-Jul-20 10:13 PM] Crow#5457
by the time the travel ban happened, it was a pointless gesture


[25-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Honahue#0656
be nice is Trump had listened to Fauci from the beginning


[25-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Reminder that the left widely decried the travel ban as "racist" at the time.


[25-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump primarily cared about economy. The virus seemed to scare the boots out of him (it really is a nightmare to have this during your term), so he did the first thing that came to mind - downplayed it as much as he could. No wonder he wouldn't listen to anyone else, and certainly would never admit it if he did.


[25-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Crow#5457
it was racist because it was only imposed relatively quickly on china, not on anywhere else


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Frosku#5874
China had the biggest outbreak at the time.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
(it was still too late, even on china)


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
the virus was already global, it would've been prudent to ban all travel to and from the US


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Frosku#5874
It was pretty late on China, but it wasn't later than a lot of others.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
this makes me think that in modern times travel bans are pointless.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Frosku#5874
They are unless you do them very early.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
by the time you realise you need one, it's too late.


[25-Jul-20 10:19 PM] Crow#5457
another problem with the china travel ban was that it wasn't actually a ban, just a restriction


[25-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
americans could still come back without a quarantine period


[25-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Crow#5457
which defeats the purpose to begin with


[25-Jul-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
part of the 'downplay and hope for the best' strategy.


[25-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
cause if people panic, stocks might crash, number low, life bad. Life bad = president bad.


[25-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Frosku#5874
An election year and a pandemic have proved to be a very bad mix.


[25-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Too much politics in the pandemic response.


[25-Jul-20 10:26 PM] Frosku#5874
If the dems try to play the pandemic response and the economic collapse in the election the voters should annihilate them tbh


[25-Jul-20 10:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/trump-s-handling-of-the-coronavirus-could-cost-him-the-presidency-a-341ffd75-5aba-46c9-983a-d063178512dd

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Trump’s Handling of the Coronavirus Could Cost Him Presidency - DER...
With the infection rate exploding and the economy in collapse, Donald Trump has failed spectacularly as a crisis manager. It would probably take a massive shock for him to get re-elected, but it appears he’s trying to make that happen, too.
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[25-Jul-20 10:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I think the American people are smarter than judging a president on a disaster he couldn't control.


[25-Jul-20 10:42 PM] jlun2#8758
remember to vote


[25-Jul-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he had 6 months prior notice and he used it to golf


[25-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Frosku#5874
I always vote


[25-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Not that my vote in one of the deepest of deep red states is particularly important.


[25-Jul-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he actively said the virus's threat level was a democrat hoax


[25-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
it says that trump failed to manage the crisis, not that the crisis is his fault


[25-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
very important difference


[25-Jul-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
It is the president who consistently politicized the lack of response to the virus and refused to take any preventative action to contain it until it was too late


[25-Jul-20 10:44 PM] byte[]#2610
The Democrats have every right to make this a campaign issue


[25-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
> The president, who is lagging far behind challenger Joe Biden of the Democratic Party in virtually all polls, is doing something that none of his predecessors has done: He’s invading American cities. "We’ll do something,” Trump said. New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit and Baltimore, he said, are ruled by "liberal Democrats,” by the "radical left.” He argued that if Biden wins the presidency, the same would happen in the rest of the country. "The whole country would go to hell. And we’re not going to let it go to hell.”


[25-Jul-20 10:44 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm sure they will, what was that quote? "Never let a tragedy get in the way of political gain."


[25-Jul-20 10:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
up until recently he actively encouraged people to not wear masks


[25-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Frosku#5874
As did the scientists, until recently.


[25-Jul-20 10:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Because they didn't want a shortage of masks for medical practitioners.


[25-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
"recently" as in "3 months ago"


[25-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Crow#5457
trump's "recently" is "3 days ago"


[25-Jul-20 10:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Depends which scientists, but sure.


[25-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Frosku#5874
This whole idea that science is this monolithic truth is one of the worst myths that people believe. We (scientists) largely do not agree with each other on everything.


[25-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Crow#5457
that's a misleading statement, there is always a general consensus formulated by science


[25-Jul-20 10:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Even where we agree on the data, we don't necessarily draw the same conclusions or the same models from it.


[25-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
it might not happen in every case, but it often happens


[25-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Frosku#5874
No, there isn't. Economics is a science and there's definitely no consensus on it.


[25-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Frosku#5874
We generally agree on data, and the hierarchy of evidence.


[25-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Honahue#0656
econ is hardly a science but it sure pretends to be one


[25-Jul-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
economics isn't a hard science


[25-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Crow#5457
it's a social science


[25-Jul-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Science is a living, evolving field, information changes constantly. and different fields of science  have different variations of difficulty


[25-Jul-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biological science is way more complicated than economics


[25-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Frosku#5874
^ That.


[25-Jul-20 10:50 PM] Honahue#0656
yeah but unlike econ if you measure something in physics and make a model the things being measured can't decide to change the model


[25-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, physics is a very "factual" / "proof-based" science. Epidemiology is far more difficult, and generally relies on modelling and trying to draw the most likely conclusion rather than hard proveable fact.


[25-Jul-20 10:51 PM] Honahue#0656
plus econ has all kinds of weirdos who clearly never interacted with humans making these models, tragedy of the commons and assuming criminals were some kind of econ insanity


[25-Jul-20 10:52 PM] Frosku#5874
There are a lot of variables which are hard to control for in epidemiology.


[25-Jul-20 10:53 PM] Frosku#5874
And you also have to account for the negative health ramifications of any policy proposals. Lockdown has killed people, the question is whether it is overall better than the alternative.


[25-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Frosku#5874
That's why the Oxford model & Imperial model are so different despite both being made by very good teams of scientists. Both have to make assumptions in the absence of good data, both made different assumptions.


[25-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Honahue#0656
tragedy of the commons is my favorite econ myth, it's still taught even tho it was a big thought experiment some guy did in the 60's published and everyone just went with it. Then someone did some actual science seeing how cultures that manage land in the commons work and found out that the thought experiment was a big pile of shit and won a Nobel


[25-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Tragedy of the commons is observable fact.


[25-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Honahue#0656
do you fucking read


[25-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Regularly. Have you ever seen the state of the ocean?


[25-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Or the rainforests?


[25-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Honahue#0656
Elinor Ostrom was awarded the 2009 Nobel Prize in Economics for demonstrating exactly this concept in her book Governing the Commons, which included examples of how local communities were able to do this without top-down regulations or privatization.[5]


[25-Jul-20 10:55 PM] Frosku#5874
Or the atmosphere?


[25-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, **local** communities can control **local** shared spaces, that does not apply on large scale populations as seen by the oceans, rainforests, atmosphere, mass extinctions, etc.


[25-Jul-20 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
and besides, economics is largely arbitrary anyway, many of the conclusions and models found in economics are based off of arbitrary limits set by economists, often disregarding the much more complex nature of human interaction


[25-Jul-20 10:57 PM] Frosku#5874
Even antibiotics is an obvious case of tragedy of the commons, whereby nobody considers the ramifications of overprescription because they'd personally like to get rid of that infection a day sooner.


[25-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Frosku#5874
And don't get me started on CO2.


[25-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Frosku#5874
At the global level, we are *dreadful* at managing common resources.


[25-Jul-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
uh, antibiotic resistance is caused both by people not finishing their antibiotic courses and byflushing their unused antibiotics down the toilet, causing antibiotic resistance to build up in the wild


[25-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
antibiotics itself is not a case of tragedy of the commons, it's a case of people being dumb and ignoring doctor's orders


[25-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Frosku#5874
And those are cases of tragedy of the commons, people are generally not responsible enough to control effects on other people from their own actions. There is no cost to them as individuals for doing those things.


[25-Jul-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://mises.org/wire/why-do-economists-make-so-many-arbitrary-assumptions

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Various assumptions employed by mainstream economists appear to be of an arbitrary nature. The assumptions seem to be detached from the real world.


[25-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
... tragedy of the commons applies to people acting in their own self-interest in a shared-resource system, not to people not following doctor's orders and ignorantly disposing of their medicine


[25-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Frosku#5874
The 'common resource' in the case of antibiotics is the amount of antibiotics in use. None of us has enough of a reason to minimize our own usage because the costs will mostly not be borne by us.


[25-Jul-20 11:01 PM] Honahue#0656
antibiotics is also a case of pharmacutical companies pushing wonder drugs, working at a pharmacy I often though doctors prescribed whatever drug was on the pen they randomly pulled out of their pocket


[25-Jul-20 11:02 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow If people were acting in the greater interests, they would not be flushing antibiotics. This is my point. There is a shared resource of 'antibiotics working' which people actively deplete in their own interest, either by demanding antibiotics when they're not needed (any Dr can tell you this is a real problem) or by not using them as ordered.


[25-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Common ear and eye infections clear up between 1-2 days faster with antibiotics than without. The science says we should not be prescribing antibiotics for these, yet we do because Drs don't like bad Yelp ratings.


[25-Jul-20 11:07 PM] Frosku#5874
This is also an issue of "just do something" culture where we refuse to accept that doing nothing is the right answer.


[25-Jul-20 11:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Very common in politics too


[25-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Honahue#0656
a lot of people demand this becase they can't afford to miss anywork


[25-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes, because people live month to month, even a lot of people who don't have to.


[25-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Honahue#0656
also I think you made a point, the commons should be handle collectively not arbitraritly at the demands of profit


[25-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Well let's say we put a price on antibiotics which properly reflects the harm of overuse


[25-Jul-20 11:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Say $1000 per course of antibiotics, non-payable by insurance. Use would plummet.


[25-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Honahue#0656
and a lot of people would get fired for missing work or go into debt


[25-Jul-20 11:14 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not advocating that, I'm saying if you monetized that common asset of 'working antibiotics' you could fix the problem. Ofc monetization creates its own new pain points.


[25-Jul-20 11:16 PM] Frosku#5874
The tsars of the resource would need to weigh up the damage caused by overuse, the amount which would cut out a lot of overuse but not provide a barrier to legitimate need, and the costs of *not* acting.


[25-Jul-20 11:17 PM] Frosku#5874
We can't pretend that *not* acting is free -- it's not. We're having to use stronger and stronger antibiotics with nastier side effects.


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[25-Jul-20 11:20 PM] Frosku#5874
In 2004 or so, we used penicillins to treat staph almost exclusively, now we're using ceph and quinolones, which have some really nasty side effects.


[25-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Honahue#0656
alternatively people could be allowed to not go to work when sick which both reduces the number of illnesses and if they just get better on their own devices don't contribute to antibiotic resitnece and let people who do legit need them get them and have time off to recover, sort of a both, and solution


[25-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree with that but part of it is personal responsibility. You make $x a day, if you choose not to save a few $x for when you can't work, that's no one's fault but yours.


[25-Jul-20 11:22 PM] Frosku#5874
It used to be normal to have a 'rainy day fund'


[25-Jul-20 11:23 PM] Frosku#5874
They have quite extensive paid sick leave in Europe, they also have lower salaries because employers have to calculate paid sick leave into salary.


[25-Jul-20 11:24 PM] byte[]#2610
I am not sure if you are aware but for most people having a "rainy day fund" has become next to impossible due to vastly increased cost of living over the past several decades with little increase in true compensation to match


[25-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Honahue#0656
it might come as a surprise but Euro's aren't exactly living in squalor though


[25-Jul-20 11:24 PM] Frosku#5874
It's really not impossible for most people. It's the expansive availability of credit, plus desire for instant gratification, that's caused most even high-income people to live month to month.


[25-Jul-20 11:25 PM] Frosku#5874
I know people making $200k a year who have fully *zero* savings, or even a negative net worth.


[25-Jul-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
mmmno. the fact that you know people who abuse their credit does not mean the average poor person is living beyond their own means to support an unsustainable lifestyle.


[25-Jul-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
i dont think you can lump high earning, low will power folks with legit poverty wage by wage ppl in 1 bucket tho


[25-Jul-20 11:26 PM] Frosku#5874
ofc not, but you also can't say "most people" when what you mean is like, the 10% of poorest people.


[25-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
I like to call this the Sam Vimes Boots theory of economic unfairness


[25-Jul-20 11:27 PM] Honahue#0656
"Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet."


[25-Jul-20 11:28 PM] Frosku#5874
The poor man could also buy the cheap boots and save for the expensive boots. This is pretty much everyone who rents before they can buy a house.


[25-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Frosku#5874
Or he could put the good boots on credit, in the reasonable knowledge that the cheap boots would cost more than the interest.


[25-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Honahue#0656
rent is bullshit even Adam Smith knew this Landlords do nothing


[25-Jul-20 11:29 PM] jlun2#8758
> The poor man could also buy the cheap boots and save for the expensive boots.
holy fuck this is real for me in certain video games with degradeables :ts_cry:


[25-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Frosku#5874
I have to admit I escape to the top left corner of the political compass every time I have to pay $2600 in rent.


[25-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Frosku#5874
😂


[25-Jul-20 11:30 PM] jlun2#8758
i legit cant save without using real cash & thus breakeven every time in those games to play free, or lose sleep & grind


[25-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Man's natural state on the earth is without food, shelter, or water. He has to find and cultivate all of those things.


[25-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Honahue#0656
basically every California home owner is a kulak

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[25-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Frosku#5874
California is a dump, come to SC.


[25-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Honahue#0656
I don't live there


[25-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Frosku#5874
You'll live like a King on California's poverty wages.


[25-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Honahue#0656
anyway it might surprise you but humans don't spawn as adults in the wilderness


[25-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Frosku#5874
No, because we have cultivated. We have progressed.


[25-Jul-20 11:32 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm just framing the fact that poverty isn't an invention, it's the default state. It doesn't 'belong' to any specific economic system.


[25-Jul-20 11:33 PM] Frosku#5874
What's more worth considering is which economic system has done the most to bring people *out* of poverty? Not damning one that doesn't manage in 100% of cases.


[25-Jul-20 11:34 PM] Frosku#5874
For as long as people are free, some will make decisions that put themselves and/or others through hardship.


[25-Jul-20 11:34 PM] jlun2#8758
im curious how capitalism in current form survives as more & more ppl get replaced by bots :ponythinking:


[25-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Frosku#5874
The only answer to that is to ban all bad decisions.


[25-Jul-20 11:35 PM] Frosku#5874
@jlun2 It largely doesn't. Capitalism (and economics as a whole) is an answer to scarcity. When there is no scarcity, we wont need economics.


[25-Jul-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
chinas "solution" seems to be paying ppl to build empty buildings; prob not posible in us


[25-Jul-20 11:35 PM] illumnious#7938

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[25-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Would be interesting to know the dollar amount.


[25-Jul-20 11:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/washington-post-settles-250m-defamation-suit-filed-by-covington-teen-over-clash-with-native-american-activists/

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[25-Jul-20 11:36 PM] Frosku#5874
I expect governments will have to institute a universal basic income to allow for decent living standards when jobs just disappear (if they do).


[25-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm fairly sceptical that we wont just replace those jobs with new 'luxury' jobs, in the same way that loads of people now work in the service sector -- independent artists, for example -- instead of the manufacturing sector.


[25-Jul-20 11:37 PM] Frosku#5874
I doubt a computer will ever be better than a person at drawing or writing, it isn't creative. I could be wrong ofc.


[25-Jul-20 11:38 PM] Frosku#5874
The price for post-scarcity products will tend to zero regardless.


[25-Jul-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
I hope they provide a system of UBS instead, such that they are not incentivizing industry to simply increase the cost of products needed for life beyond what should be provided by the basic income


[25-Jul-20 11:38 PM] illumnious#7938
https://youtu.be/InyIOFDE-p4

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[25-Jul-20 11:38 PM] illumnious#7938
I have to find the damm video for that article


[25-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I actually hope we can do it without government, to be honest.


[25-Jul-20 11:39 PM] Frosku#5874
There are plenty of examples of things that used to be luxuries which are now near-free because they're just so abundant that there's nothing to drive the price up any more.


[25-Jul-20 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/07/25/republicans-have-donald-trump-problem-they-push-mail-voting-base/5452373002/
> "What the president is doing when he keeps saying that this mail-in balloting thing is fraudulent, he's scaring our own voters from using a legit way to cast your ballot," Bishop said. "We're kind of hurting ourselves, and I don't think that's the wisest way to go."

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[25-Jul-20 11:41 PM] Frosku#5874
But in a situation where the average person literally can't get paid work, yeah it'd need either government or collective action to make sure those people had enough. I think that would call for something other than capitalism.


[25-Jul-20 11:49 PM] Frosku#5874
That's probably a good 200 years away though.


[25-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Frosku#5874
https://thejewishvoice.com/2020/07/antifa-radical-stabs-black-trump-supporter-in-portland/

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[25-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Frosku#5874
"Black lives matter as long as they're not Trump supporters"

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[25-Jul-20 11:56 PM] Serenity#9645
https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-protests-breonna-taylor-armed-protester-accidentally-shoots-himself

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Louisville protests descend into chaos when armed protester acciden...
Gunshots erupted during a planned protest in Louisville, Ky., Saturday and three members of the heavily armed militia group, the “Not F---ing Around Coalition” (NFAC), were injured by shots fired from one of their own member's guns, police told Fox News.
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[25-Jul-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610

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[25-Jul-20 11:59 PM] byte[]#2610
>2007
compelling argument


[26-Jul-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
I see no sources except a self published one and some twitter posts which don't even seem to have the right text attached to them. are you sure this website is legit?


[26-Jul-20 12:03 AM] byte[]#2610
second link, I found this from a different source (USA Today):
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/25/protest-live-blog-portland-chicago-nyc-louisville-updates/5501660002/
> Police confirmed three members of the NFAC, a Black militia that stands for "Not F**king Around Coalition," were struck by gunfire when someone’s gun discharged while participating in a demonstration Saturday.  All three victims went to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. There are no suspects at this time, police said.

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Kentucky's Attorney General pleaded with armed demonstrators to remain peaceful Saturday as opposing militia groups face off in downtown Louisville.
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[26-Jul-20 12:05 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.rt.com/usa/495842-portland-black-trump-supporter-stabbed/

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Black Trump supporter allegedly STABBED by ‘Antifa dude’ during Por...
A black Trump supporter was reportedly attacked and stabbed by a protester amid increasingly violent demonstrations in Portland that have rocked the Oregon city for weeks. Police have made an arrest in connection to the incident.
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[26-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Frosku#5874
It may surprise you, but the mainstream media tend to bury this kind of thing.


[26-Jul-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
keyword "allegedly" it's an ongoing investigation


[26-Jul-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
It may surprise you, but I have doubts about the factual reporting of a website like RT


[26-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Frosku#5874
I say the same about CNN all the time


[26-Jul-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/

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[26-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, RT is very biased


[26-Jul-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
compare to their opinion of CNN https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

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[26-Jul-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
which is "mixed" rather than "questionable source"


[26-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Frosku#5874
> In general, **most international news stories on RT are factual and relate to true events**, however there are occasional pieces that spin these facts into a different narrative, that is misleading. Another concerning aspect of RT is they do not list author information for articles published on the website. This presents a lack of transparency that makes it difficult to verify information.

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[26-Jul-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't see anything in either of the stories you linked about it except self-published allegations from the victim online


[26-Jul-20 12:09 AM] byte[]#2610
no police report, no verified arrest, not seeing any other news coverage even among the more right wing sources like fox


[26-Jul-20 12:09 AM] Frosku#5874
That's where most stories start: someone says something happened. If he doesn't have a knife wound, we will know nothing happened.


[26-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Frosku#5874
David Dorn was on RT hours before he was on Fox.


[26-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Serenity#9645
@byte[] i was going to try to link usa today but it doesnt link to a article to read at least for me it just a live feed, so i went with fox


[26-Jul-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-federal-unemployment-benefits-200-a-week-cost-jobs-study-2020-7

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The GOP could reduce federal unemployment benefits to $200 a week. ...
Many economists credit the $600 federal weekly unemployment boost to state unemployment checks with prompting quicker rebounds in consumer spending.
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[26-Jul-20 12:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509039-internal-letter-says-biden-campaign-is-suppressing-the-hispanic-vote-in

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A group of 94 field organizers for former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign sent a letter to the the state Democratic Party claiming the Biden campaign is
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[26-Jul-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Send staffers from locations where their work is less needed to one where it is needed more


[26-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>"Suppression"


[26-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Syrianizer/status/1286339868029857795

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The tower was designed in 2019 as a means to circumvent American sanctions should the JCPOA fall by mining cryptocurrency. 

The waterpark itself with serve as coolant while also adding very unusual sight right in the middle of the Iranian capital.
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[26-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
so apparently iran built a giant water park skyscraper that also doubles as a massive cryptocurrency mining operation that was designed to circumvent sanctions if the nuclear deal fell through


[26-Jul-20 01:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
Based


[26-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/us/a-wall-of-vets-joins-the-front-lines-of-portland-protests.html

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A ‘Wall of Vets’ Joins the Front Lines of Portland Protests
Military veterans said they banded together to protect the free speech of demonstrators.
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[26-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 02:01 AM] LM3Fan22#0118
https://youtu.be/tGQgcHMIq1g

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[26-Jul-20 02:38 AM] Synfag#9241
> so apparently iran built a giant water park skyscraper that also doubles as a massive cryptocurrency mining operation that was designed to circumvent sanctions if the nuclear deal fell through
> @Crow

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[26-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Frosku#5874
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/v-shaped-recovery-economy-andy-puzder
It's happening~

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[26-Jul-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well until the gop drops unemployment to $200 and everyone loses their ability to spend freely


[26-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Frosku#5874
The May jobs report gave us the first indication that the post-pandemic rebound would be something special, revealing that employers had created a record-shattering 2.5 million jobs in a single month, beating economists' expectations for a loss of around 9 million jobs.

Most economists anticipated that the trend would continue, but few foresaw just how stellar the June jobs report turned out to be. Last month, the country gained a mind-boggling 4.8 million new jobs, blowing past consensus expectations of around 3.7 million. As an added bonus, last month’s total was revised upward by nearly 200,000 jobs, **bring the two-month gain to 7.5 million jobs**.

The labor force participation rate rose sharply, meaning more people began looking for work, the nationwide unemployment rate nonetheless plummeted in June by more than two full percentage points, **falling from 13.3 percent to 11.1 percent, also beating economists’ expectations of a 0.8 of a percentage point decrease to 12.5 percent**.

In May, **retail sales increased by a record 17.7 percent, soundly beating economists’ expectations of around 8.4 percent**. This increase in retail sales — following three months of declines — bodes well for a return to positive economic growth.


[26-Jul-20 03:28 AM] Frosku#5874
By November the economy's going to have clearly rebounded. Election won.


[26-Jul-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-federal-unemployment-benefits-200-a-week-cost-jobs-study-2020-7

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The GOP could reduce federal unemployment benefits to $200 a week. ...
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[26-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Frosku#5874
Seems reasonable. Slash welfare. Get people back to work.


[26-Jul-20 03:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The GOP could reduce federal unemployment benefits to $200 a week. That would shed an estimated 3.4 million jobs from the economy.


[26-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Frosku#5874
The rate at which jobs will be created, it wont even be a blip.


[26-Jul-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs dont just automatically poof into existance when you slash unemployment


[26-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Frosku#5874
> revealing that employers had created a record-shattering 2.5 million jobs in a single month, beating economists' expectations for a loss of around 9 million jobs


[26-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Economists' predictions have been *wildly* wrong so far.


[26-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, how many of those jobs are able to pay for rent?


[26-Jul-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cuttign welfare actually doubles the chances of people staying unemployed when they cant pay off their bills and rent


[26-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
because the trend has always been a loss of higher-paying jobs that you could actually live on comfortably towards a bunch of lower-paying jobs you can barely live on


[26-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Frosku#5874
Economic recovery is always based on bad jobs before the highly-paid jobs come back.


[26-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Frosku#5874
Giving people zero incentive to take jobs will not help the recovery.


[26-Jul-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
economic recovery is based on people going homeless?


[26-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean during a recession, yes people tend to have a shitty time. It's a horrible thing, but you don't fix it by throwing infinite cash at free stuff.


[26-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Frosku#5874
All of these handouts will need to be paid for at some point.


[26-Jul-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, you fix it by depriving people of needed resources so thye become desperate enoguh to work for pennies


[26-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Frosku#5874
You fix it by getting the country back to work, producing things, creating more jobs.


[26-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
the bigger issue is the end of the federal ban on evictions, if that isn't extended, we're going to see a massive amount of homelessness


[26-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Crow#5457
and being homeless makes it that much harder to get a job you can live comfortably on


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Not by throwing huge handouts out forever and then having to introduce oppressive taxes to pay for them, which will kill job creation.


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jobs dont tend to hire homeless people these days


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
'producing things', isn't your entire country made in China, just like everywhere else?


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Frosku#5874
No, not at all.


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
did you know that denmark and utah both fixed homelessness by giving people "free handouts" of small apartments that belonged to them?


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Frosku#5874
Can someone give me a small apartment that belongs to me? Would be swell.


[26-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Crow#5457
and it literally cost less for the state/nation to do so


[26-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Crow#5457
now that sounds petty as fuck lmao


[26-Jul-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if anything instead of slashing unemployment, we shoudl raise job wages


[26-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Frosku#5874
No, legit, what is the incentive to work if you can get a literal free apartment by sitting on your hands?


[26-Jul-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would give people mroe incentive to go back to work


[26-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) Yes, and that's a disincentive to create jobs in a spooked job market. You create higher wages by creating more jobs.


[26-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
you don't save people drowning in a pool by throwing them into the ocean


[26-Jul-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
investors are a disincentive to raise wages as well, companies answer to those mroe than job market demands


[26-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Frosku#5874
But that's exactly what you're proposing to do to the companies which are actually pulling people out of the pool.


[26-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow but everyone has an equal opportunity to survive. It's okay if some don't, read Ian Rand :D


[26-Jul-20 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh yeah, the fast food industry is really saving those drowning people


[26-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Frosku#5874
These companies are creating jobs, giving people a way out of the pool, and your proposal is "hang on a second, let's make that harder"


[26-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Honahue#0656
it's hilarious to see the libertarian talking pointes when Milton Friedman himself recognized that you needed to curtail feeding the poor to Moloch with a negative income tax


[26-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Frosku#5874
You don't need to give people literally $600 a week in free money, that's insanity.


[26-Jul-20 03:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hang on a second let;s yank the floor from under the people looking to lift themselves out of this hole, so thye fall in the spike pit of low wage zero promotion jobs


[26-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
companies are pulling people out of the pool... how? you've personally extolled the virtues of the companies you work for, but for every company like that, there's hundreds who literally don't care because they can find someone else who can do the job just as well for cheaper if you can't keep up


[26-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't work for any companies, I run one. The biggest thing which would make it harder for me to create more jobs would be taxing me and my clients more to pay for this mess we didn't create.


[26-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Frosku#5874
And no, these aren't minimum wage jobs, they're all 6 figure jobs.


[26-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, I was gonna mention you went from extolling the virtues of the company you work for to saying you owned the company, but I thought it was polite not to mention that

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[26-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Honahue#0656
part of the idea behing negative income taxes or UBI is that it doesn't require the beuracracy to run that welfare and other assistance programs do, you just give the cash they make rational decisions


[26-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Frosku#5874
If you can find me any instance of Milton Friedman arguing for that handout to be $2400/mo


[26-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Honahue#0656
it also means that people on them don't have to worry about losing benefits by making more money if they get a job


[26-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Frosku#5874
I'll be happy to be the first to disagree with Milton Friedman... but I don't think he ever did suggest that.


[26-Jul-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow there's a logic behind it that's predicated on that though. If he can do it, anyone can.


[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
fuck off Milton Friendman lived in the 80's of course he wasn't going to give that number


[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Frosku#5874
OK so point me to where he suggested 2x the minimum wage.


[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
but it was a livable amount


[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cost of living was lower in the 80's


[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpgkX588nM

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[26-Jul-20 03:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like thousands of dollars lower


[26-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Frosku#5874
The rate @Honahue, almost all libertarians agree with replacing the current welfare state with something universal and low.


[26-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm wrong this is even older min wage was like $1.25


[26-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Honahue#0656
which buys more in '68 than the federal min does now


[26-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Frosku#5874
Sure uh... how many hours would you have to work for a 1000MHz computer in 68? Just wondering :P


[26-Jul-20 03:44 AM] byte[]#2610
He was talking about bread, not computers


[26-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Honahue#0656
saying wages were lower cause computer were worse is the dumbest arguement


[26-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rent-growth-since-1960/

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[26-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Frosku#5874
Show some figures and stop making unsubstantiated arguments. What constituted acceptable living standards in 68 was totally different.


[26-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
what _does_ contitute acceptable living standards today?


[26-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Frosku#5874
If you cant afford the sports and the movies, you're in poverty. No iPhone = extreme poverty.


[26-Jul-20 03:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.in2013dollars.com/Food/price-inflation

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Inflation Rate for Food between 1913-2020
Food costing $20 in 1913 is equivalent to $534.31 in 2020.
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[26-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
the man is filled with straw


[26-Jul-20 03:46 AM] Honahue#0656
it's hard to get a job without a computer or an email address today


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Honahue#0656
guess people should choose to live in Victorian work houses or something


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
> Food priced at $20 in 1968 → $150.23 in 2020


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
nyoom


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, inflation exists.


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that's the problem with your whole deprive the people of their benefits argument


[26-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Frosku#5874
First source I could find that was legit - Pew. Purchasing power is roughly the same as in 1960s.

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[26-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Frosku#5874
Actually slightly higher than 64


[26-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Honahue#0656
it is the Fox News point, poor people have fridges and mircowaves so they aren't poor, unless you're walking around like a cartoon character with a barrel held up by suspenders you're not poor


[26-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Frosku#5874
"Poor" has to mean something.


[26-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Frosku#5874
You can't just keep moving the goalpost and then claiming nothing has been achieved.


[26-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lacking sufficient money to live at a standard considered comfortable or normal in a society.


[26-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Frosku#5874
OK that's a moving goalpost, try again.


[26-Jul-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s the literal dictionary definition


[26-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Frosku#5874
Society is always going to redefine acceptable based on the median.


[26-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Honahue#0656
yes and?


[26-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Frosku#5874
That's a ridiculous goal to try to meet. There will always be people below the median.


[26-Jul-20 03:50 AM] Frosku#5874
That's how a *median* works.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457

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[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"There will always be poor people, they should jsut stop being poor"


[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes, we have inflation @Crow, I don't think anyone is denying that.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Crow#5457
> If you can find me any instance of Milton Friedman arguing for that handout to be $2400/mo


[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) If you continue to argue in bad faith and make straw man arguments I'm just going to stop engaging with you.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow okay so how much was he arguing for? Any numbers mentioned at all?


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow Or $2400/mo in today's dollars in that day, let's set that goalpost.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i gave you the literal dictionary definition, how is that bad faith?


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent He argued for enough to fund subsistence, which they're all very aware of.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, so how much is that?


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Opponent#3498
what is subsistence? Does it cover rent? I hear rent is a huge sticking point.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 AM] Frosku#5874
That would be enough to pay rent in a low end apartment, food, water, and utilities. That's what he argued for as a handout.


[26-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Frosku#5874
No iPhones, no cable, no BMW.


[26-Jul-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, that sounds reasonable.


[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
> There will always be people below the median.
> 
> There will always be poor people


[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
I've shown median purchasing power is actually higher than it was in the 60s.


[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
Yes @Crow, if you define 'poor' as anyone below the median, there will by the mathematical definition of median always be poor people.


[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Crow#5457
the poverty line was never just "below the median"


[26-Jul-20 03:54 AM] Frosku#5874
Unless the argument is for communism, which a lot of the time it seems to be.


[26-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
because the median is where the most people are


[26-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
well at $1.60/hr for 40hrs for 4 weeks comes out to $256 a month for 1968 bucks


[26-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Crow#5457
if the median is actually below the poverty line, then you have a massive problem on your hands


[26-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Honahue#0656
1.60 was the federal min then


[26-Jul-20 03:55 AM] Frosku#5874
There are, in any distribution, data points below and above the median, unless either you have less than two data points, or all of your data points are the same (or except one).


[26-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Honahue#0656

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[26-Jul-20 03:56 AM] Frosku#5874
@Honahue Read what Friedman actually advocated for. It was enough to exist, essentially.


[26-Jul-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1968?amount=1

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Inflation Rate between 1968-2020 | Inflation Calculator
$1 in 1968 is now equivalent to $7.41 in 2020.
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[26-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Frosku#5874
More proof that inflation exists :o


[26-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah this isn't helping.


[26-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Honahue#0656
80% of the number you gave, and yeah exist means rent and food which tend to be the biggest expensense people have


[26-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Frosku#5874
Right, so let's go with food and rent, that'd be nowhere near $2400/mo unless you live in Seattle or LA or Manhattan.


[26-Jul-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you have utilities, electricity, water, internet


[26-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
Still nowhere near.


[26-Jul-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
possibly cable


[26-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Frosku#5874
And Internet is pushing it.


[26-Jul-20 03:59 AM] Crow#5457
no it isn't, the internet is practically required for any white collar job


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Frosku#5874
No, you don't need cable to exist. Earn it.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not really, you kind of need the internet to apply for jobs now


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I think if Corona proved anything it's that internet is essential infrastructure today


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m factoring cable into cost, i;m not saying you need cable


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Frosku#5874
OK fine, cheapest Internet is included. No cable TV, that's a clear luxury.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Crow#5457
cable = internet for the most part in the US


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
cable hard pass unless forced upon you. Internet, yes, basicly essential infrastructure.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Honahue#0656
and yeah last time I asked at a place for a job they said apply online, some where kind enough to have a kiosk where you could use a computer to do so


[26-Jul-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
phone bills


[26-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Crow#5457
because muh oligopoly and consumer-hostile bundling


[26-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Frosku#5874
You have Internet, you don't need to use a phone. Just use Zoom.


[26-Jul-20 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
you kind of need to use a phone. Else you're shit out of luck on mobility.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah the internet should become a municipality


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent We're talking about existence.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah yes let me just contact municipalities with zoom


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Not luxuries like travelling.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
not travelling.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Opponent#3498
moving around the city. Like, maintaining communications on the go? Might be useful, more than a little bit.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then there;'s also possible insurance costs if you're covered in any insurance covered field


[26-Jul-20 04:02 AM] Honahue#0656
no one brought up travelling but this is the US so there's like zero public transport in plently of low rent areas


[26-Jul-20 04:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
insurance is required to own a car btw


[26-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Frosku#5874
That's way above anything Friedman argued for, and we're using his argument.


[26-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Since apparently everyone here is in lockstep with Milton Friedman now, which I consider progress.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
no, it's just that he's the closest to your line of arguing that they think reasonable. Don't expect this to be a lasting effect.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
friedman lived in a time where public transport was more common, cars are practically required now


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Honahue#0656
no, I'm arguing that this is a subsitence life in the US realistically, not someone shoved in an oubliette with a $200 sipend for bread


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
it's an honest go at using your own arguments. Not bad, but ultimately fruitless.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, subsistence life is a trailer and food/water. Anything else is a luxury.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, RT is a legit news site, they just have a pro-russian bias


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
> the action or fact of maintaining or supporting oneself, especially at a minimal level.
> "the minimum income needed for subsistence"


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Crow#5457
RT is literally russian propaganda


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
internet now is a requirement or else you arent getting anything done that needs doing such as applying for jobs


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
Still better than Democrat propaganda tbh.


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Oh the horror, promoting an alternative narrative while not lying about the facts


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) Use it at the library.


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Pontology#1010
Just learn to read past the bias and narrative to the actual facts.


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
still requires a car


[26-Jul-20 04:05 AM] Opponent#3498
in a decade or two libraries will go the way of public transport :D


[26-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Honahue#0656
anyway the point of the negative income tax was that people would have an insentive to get a job cause bare subsitence is still kinda shitty but today want a job you'll need internet and a basic smart phone to send applications


[26-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Frosku#5874
Walk or hitch a ride


[26-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Opponent#3498
do note, both rely on public sector services. Funny aint it.


[26-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Crow#5457
RT used to be relatively trustworthy except for matters regarding russia, but then they basically became a front for the russian troll farms between 2016 to now


[26-Jul-20 04:06 AM] Pontology#1010
>front for russian troll farms
:fillyconfused:


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Do they report fake news or not? The answer is no. The worst that people can say about them is that they're "misleading", i.e. promote a narrative about the facts which they dislike.


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't deny that RT is biased but so is literally every cable news station in America.

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[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Opponent#3498
Several people are typing :nut:


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah it's surprising that powerful lobbiest keep getting public services defunded and they go away to be replaced by more expensive and often worse private replacements


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so if you live in the middle of nowhere in a trailer with barelty any essentials then you are to walk 10 miles to the nearest library in order to apply for a job you still can;t get to because you have no car


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Frosku#5874
Fox is biased, CNN is biased, NBC is biased, MSNBC is biased.


[26-Jul-20 04:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. I still read both conservatively and progressively biased news sources all the time, and have just learned how to read past the bias to the underlying story.


[26-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/

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[26-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) We'll include a 1mo rental of a 20 yr old Lada when you get a job in the welfare package.


[26-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) well, just gotta move the trailer to the nearest big city :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. Oh the horror:

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[26-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Frosku#5874
RT is garbage but all US news is garbage too. :shrugpony:


[26-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Pontology#1010
**"In general, most international news stories on RT are focused on and relate to true events, however they occasionally spin them into a different narrative."**


[26-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Pontology#1010
So in other words, its reporting on America is factual and fine, just a different narrative.


[26-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
all news is garbage period :wheeze:


[26-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
live your life as you do, vote as your forefathers did, know no woes :wheeze:


[26-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Frosku#5874
We have like 7 Biden News Networks but Fox is demonized for daring to tell the other side.


[26-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope

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Lyudmila Savchuk infiltrated an online troll farm in St. Petersburg. "That feeling from the Soviet times — I can feel it everywhere," she tells NPR.
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[26-Jul-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
oooh, the dreaded S-word


[26-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
> "That feeling from the Soviet times — I can feel it everywhere,"
I empathise with this when I hear Sanders talk 😂


[26-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Even their link to the """conspiracy theory""", it isn't. Just reporting on how the Russian government denies something.


[26-Jul-20 04:11 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't think the soviets would be pro-Trump though.


[26-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
why wouldn't they be?


[26-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
it weakens US and cripples the international presence. He's perfect.


[26-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Frosku#5874
Because the soviets wanted everywhere to be communist.


[26-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
well not post Soviet-Polish war they didn't, not really :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:12 AM] Pontology#1010
>ctrl+f "rt news"
>0 results
Seems unrelated.


[26-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
least, that's when idealism finally died.


[26-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Which Democratic candidate had his honeymoon in the USSR? And hung their flag.


[26-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Honahue#0656
well Stalin didn't "socialism in one country" but communism is an international organization


[26-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Crow#5457
> Savchuk, who considers herself a freelance investigative journalist and activist for free and fair elections, spent most of her time at the troll farm writing as an imaginary Russian woman on the LiveJournal blogging platform, widely used in Russia today. Her posts were meant for Russian readers and were intended to inflame anti-American feelings.
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> "We made up a post about a new computer game created in the States — that even kids loved to play — and the theme of the game was slavery," she says. "And this was to stir negative tensions towards Americans, as the creators of this game."
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> That game never existed. Nor did the woman that Savchuk was posing as. A day at the troll factory could mean multiple layers of trolling subterfuge.

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[26-Jul-20 04:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Isn't that game Pokemon? 😂


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
RT stands for russia today


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Crow#5457
for future reference


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Pontology#1010
>blogs aren't trustworthy
Who would have thought?


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
You enslave sentient creatures and make them do battle against each other. :P


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Frosku#5874
But I digress, yeah RT is a Russian propaganda outlet, sometimes reporting news the MSM ~~misses~~ buries is in Russia's interests.


[26-Jul-20 04:14 AM] Pontology#1010
If they were referring to Russia Today, they would have capitalized the Today.


[26-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Pontology#1010
They weren't. They were referring to Russia today.


[26-Jul-20 04:15 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, she was writing for a Russian audience. LJ is still popular in Russia.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
RT is literally owned by the Russian govt, it's a propaganda outlet, but the US coverage is factual, they just (like American outlets) put their own narrative on things.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Pontology#1010
BBC is owned by the British government, and has a bias stemming from that.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
BBC is *incredibly* biased.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Many call it a propaganda outlet, especially the Chinese.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Frosku#5874
It is a propaganda outlet.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, it is. But like RT, it doesn't report blatant fake news. Just an awful narrative.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 AM] Opponent#3498
they know their popaganda outlets, mmhm.


[26-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
Try to find anything pro-Trump on the BBC. Good luck with that.


[26-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Crow#5457
there is no reason to believe that RT coverage of the US is factual at face value anymore specifically because russia has been doubling down on its attempts to influence the US the past half-decade


[26-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Frosku#5874
@Crow Every media bias report on RT calls it factual but biased.


[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, BBC credibility to me when they referred to Brazilian president Bolsonaro as "far-right", which is just a spook word to demonize people.


[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Which... to me sounds like a description most people would put on Fox or CNN, to be honest.


[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Crow#5457
> Reasoning: Russian Propaganda, Conspiracy, Lack of Transparency, Some Fake News


[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, that's the opposite of "factual"


[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Frosku#5874
Read down below that.

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[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] Pontology#1010
For the second time.

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[26-Jul-20 04:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there ain't no reading between the lines here


[26-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Pontology#1010
**"In general, most international news stories on RT are focused on and relate to true events, however they occasionally spin them into a different narrative."**


[26-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
The Fake News refers specifically to news covering Russia.

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[26-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Frosku#5874
"In general, **most international news stories on RT are factual** and relate to true events, however **there are occasional pieces that spin these facts into a different narrative**, that is misleading."


[26-Jul-20 04:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah. That means they talk about current events and then lie out their ass about what's going on


[26-Jul-20 04:19 AM] Pontology#1010
Different narratives are never misleading. It is only all narratives that are misleading. Including those of our mainstream media.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's only a step above "Bat Boy Bites Santa" in terms of factual accuracy


[26-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Pontology#1010
No, it doesn't mean that. It means they have a different narrative.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 AM] Frosku#5874
It's really not, "most international stories are factual" is not a low level of factual reporting.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
If you are trying to get news on what's happening in Russia, RT is garbage.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You do realize that someone can be misleading to the point of implying the opposite of the truth while speaking nothing but true statements, right?


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Opponent#3498
we even had a discussion earlier today on just that :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Frosku#5874
If you want international news, it's generally okay if you can read past spin, which is a requirement to consume *any* American media.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Pontology#1010
When it comes to narratives, there is no objective truth, only how people narratologically weave facts together.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 AM] Opponent#3498
with the whole 'science will not stand in the way' silliness.


[26-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
If you uncritically watch Fox or CNN, you are going to believe a lot of shit which doesn't follow from the facts.


[26-Jul-20 04:22 AM] Frosku#5874
If you watch Fox or CNN and only take the facts from the shows, you will get a reasonable (if selective) set of true facts.


[26-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
i.e. CNN will select feature stories which fit its narrative, and Fox will select feature stories which fit its narrative.


[26-Jul-20 04:23 AM] Frosku#5874
I know it's suddenly in vogue to hate Russia again after we were all told by Obama in 2012 that they weren't a threat -- anyone else remember "the 1980s wants its foreign policy back" when Romney quoted Russia as a major adversary? -- but pretty much all news you consume is biased.


[26-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Pontology#1010
RT seems more factual than MSNBC tbh

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[26-Jul-20 04:24 AM] Frosku#5874
The main thing I'd like to see in US media is a clear separation between news and opinion shows.


[26-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Frosku#5874
There are people who get their news from Tucker Carlson, Don Lemon, and Rachel Maddow, and that's bad for all of us.


[26-Jul-20 04:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, the "Russophobia", for lack of a better word, is really silly. Just the chosen enemy and scapegoat of the media. They're not our friends, but they're not 10% as bad or as capable as the media makes them out to be.


[26-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Pontology#1010
With their russia-hysteria fear-mongering.


[26-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
there used to be a separation like that enforced by the FCC, but then reagan got rid of the doctrine


[26-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

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[26-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean Russia are an adversary as any superpower are, but they're not the devil.


[26-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Frosku#5874
Russia will obviously work in the interests of Russia in the same way that the US works in the interests of the US.


[26-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Pontology#1010
FCC fairness was a bad idea. Remember, the BBC is supposedly impartial, by law.


[26-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
immediately after that doctrine was abolished, rush limbaugh started his radio show


[26-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Frosku#5874
Now, at least, we didn't used to. We used to work in the interests of almost everyone else.


[26-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean, I'm all for opinion on TV or radio but it should be labelled as opinion.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Frosku#5874
No one listens to Rush Limbaugh thinking they're getting down the center news. You listen to Rush Limbaugh for conservative talk radio.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
the reason why it's so hard to distinguish between fact and opinion on news media now can be traced back to the abolishment of that doctrine


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
I know multiple people who listen to rush limbaugh as their only source of news


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Pontology#1010
I think Fox News does a reasonable job of this, actually. People like Tucker Carlson and Rush Limbaugh don't call themselves journalists. They call themselves "political commentators", which they are.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Frosku#5874
Same issue I don't have an issue with like, Ben Shapiro on one side or TYT on the other, neither claims to be a news site. They're openly opinion.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Pontology#1010
The Daily Wire calls itself conservative.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
They don't try to fool anyone into thinking they're impartial. I respect that.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah Fox News should ditch the "fair and balanced" shit though, let's face it -- they're not.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah and TYT openly say that they're liberal, which is fine.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```Yeah, the "Russophobia", for lack of a better word, is really silly. Just the chosen enemy and scapegoat of the media. ```


[26-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Frosku#5874
But the fact that Fox is so demonized is ... idk, it seems wrong when the rest of the media is just as bad in the other direction.


[26-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it works the same for Russia and 'the West' (US and Germany really)


[26-Jul-20 04:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, I'm not nearly as scared of Russia as western media wants me to be.


[26-Jul-20 04:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
Russia's economy is really just a fancy gas station.
The real threat to western society is China, imo.

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[26-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not either, but then I've spent time in Russia and I know Russian people. The country has issues but I'd have issues too if I only stopped being communist 3 decades ago.


[26-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
you shouldn't be, unless you're within artillery range from their borders :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Opponent#3498
China, yeah, that's problematic on a whole different level.


[26-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Frosku#5874
China is far scarier than Russia.


[26-Jul-20 04:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
China has been getting away with actual genocide, ffs.

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[26-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Based?


[26-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Frosku#5874
And randomly annexing Hong Kong which was supposed to be politically independent for another 20 years.


[26-Jul-20 04:34 AM] wren#0114
conventional war when


[26-Jul-20 04:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not to mention breaking trade agreements and stealing intellectual property.


[26-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
I think the christchurch shooter was right that the CPC is the superior form of government


[26-Jul-20 04:35 AM] jlun2#8758
the only russian ppl i know are MLP artists lol :shrugpony:


[26-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Pontology#1010
The CPC is capable of true long-term planning and action, something democracy cannot do since we elect new leaders regularly.


[26-Jul-20 04:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, but the same system creates paranoia and deep rot amongst the party.


[26-Jul-20 04:37 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that russia "randomly annexed" crimea


[26-Jul-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
the problem is that they actually seem to be able to not become a 3rd world dictator, which is actually really hard not to become due to no incentive to help the ppl.


[26-Jul-20 04:37 AM] wren#0114
reminder that china is trying to randomly annex the ocean/islands around it


[26-Jul-20 04:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
And Israel just randomly annexed Palestine. Idk why we even support those assholes.


[26-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
maybe we shouldn't be letting any wildly authoritarian power expand their borders


[26-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Crimea is mostly Russian. Wiki:
> A controversial Crimea-wide referendum, unconstitutional under the Ukrainian and Crimean constitutions,[8][9][10] was held on the issue of reunification with Russia; **its official results showed majority support for reunification.**


[26-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Pontology#1010
I don't think Russia was right, but it also wasn't necessarily wrong. It's what the Crimeans wanted.


[26-Jul-20 04:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Reminder that Russia got sanctioned to hell and back for it.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Frosku#5874
Well, I don't necessarily trust the referendum. It should have had International oversight.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Crow#5457
I don't get how anyone can defend russia when they're doing the same thing china's doing, just on a smaller scale


[26-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Pontology#1010
>Russia is committing genocide
Where?


[26-Jul-20 04:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't defend Russia. I just don't think it's a major enemy.

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[26-Jul-20 04:39 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not defending Russia, I'm just saying they're not the boogeyman in a world where we contend with China.

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[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] wren#0114
who is defending russia


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, ghosts of the cold war need to die already.


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Pontology#1010
Some of us are "defending" Russia not as good, but as being _not the devil_ that people make it out to be.


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
@Pontology yeah no, that referendum was full fake basicly.


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] Frosku#5874
Militarily Russia are still the biggest threat, but compared to us they're still an ant to be squashed.


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] wren#0114
I don't trust russia any more than china or iran


[26-Jul-20 04:40 AM] jlun2#8758
why is russia seem to be doing worse than china


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Frosku#5874
Pretty sure our military spending is like an order of magnitude higher than Russia's


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Pontology#1010
@Opponent Source? Crimea is majority-Russian, so it makes sense they would favor reunification.


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] wren#0114
china is doing active evil right now though on a large scale


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Crow#5457
> Yeah, the "Russophobia", for lack of a better word, is really silly. Just the chosen enemy and scapegoat of the media. They're not our friends, but they're not 10% as bad or as capable as the media makes them out to be.

> Russia will obviously work in the interests of Russia in the same way that the US works in the interests of the US.


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Pontology#1010
Where's the lie or falsehood?


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] wren#0114
let's ally with russia to invade china


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's not defending.


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
@Pontology would you be satisfied with russian-language sources? I'm really not sure if I can find something satisfactory in english.


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] Frosku#5874
How is that a defense? Russia annexed Crimea, we full-on invaded Iraq and overthrew the govt, then did the same in Libya, and installed puppet govts...


[26-Jul-20 04:41 AM] wren#0114
then we can sort out handling russia later


[26-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
dismissing any criticisms of russia as "russophobia" and dismissing any actions fulfilled by russia as "just acting in their interests" certainly comes off as defending russia


[26-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Pontology#1010
It's like:
>Dave murdered someone!
<No, Dave slapped her. It's still bad, but not murder.
>Why are you defending Dave!?


[26-Jul-20 04:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
>dismissing


[26-Jul-20 04:42 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm happy to criticise Russia, but the US has definitely done just as much international meddling, and China has done more.

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[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
it turns out you can criticize them all


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Pontology#1010
The U.S. really is at least as bad as Russia in international meddling, and I'm a conservative American. (non-interventionist for this reason, I don't like it.)


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm not "dismissing" it. I'm just saying I'm not preoccupied with it. Russia isn't nearly as big of a threat as people say it is. Their economy sucks and is on the verge of collaps.


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
short story is, the referendum suddenly sprung into existence after russian forces took control over the capital. It was over before it began and produced highly predictable results, just like any other referendum in freshly taken territory would.


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Crow#5457
it's a good thing false dilemmas are a fallacy and not how reality works


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Frosku#5874
Russia is an expansionist country with delusions of superpower status stemming back to the cold war. They're just not petting their cat and cackling about how much they hate you for being American.


[26-Jul-20 04:43 AM] Pontology#1010
The U.S. still isn't horrible. But we have regularly meddled in the elections of foreign countries for our own perceived interests.


[26-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Frosku#5874
The US is the greatest country on the planet, but our overseas interventionism has been a complete disaster.

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[26-Jul-20 04:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[26-Jul-20 04:44 AM] jlun2#8758
their best interventions are their mcdonalds all over the globe

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[26-Jul-20 04:44 AM] Opponent#3498
if that's true @Frosku , humanity needs to go extinct asap because we're irredeemably broken.


[26-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Pontology#1010
We need to return to George Washington's advice against international entanglements.

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[26-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Honahue#0656
>posting stonetoss


[26-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Frosku#5874
Now, I am okay with *some* foreign affairs to make sure that Russia doesn't just pick up in the power vacuum we leave, but we shouldn't be toppling stable governments that pose no threat to us.


[26-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, it probably is. Depressing as all heck, too.


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
Washington warned us about getting involved in foreign affairs.


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Frosku#5874
I was okay with Afghanistan when it was a limited mission to arrest or kill Bin Laden. I was okay with Syria to stop ISIS who were threatening the US directly.


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] wren#0114
yeah I'm pretty libertarian so I tend back to the founders on anti-interventionalism, but there is a need for it in the current state of geopolitics with russia and china


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and John Adams got us into the Treaty of Tripoli


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Afghanistan ✅ they attacked us on our own soil
Almost everything else ❌


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Honahue#0656
it's why the Marine song has that line


[26-Jul-20 04:46 AM] Frosku#5874
What about the Islamic State in Syria, who attacked us on our own shores?

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[26-Jul-20 04:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
It was U.S. interventionism that caused Al Qaeda and ISIS.


[26-Jul-20 04:47 AM] jlun2#8758
replace middle east with whatever weird social issue i never heard of


[26-Jul-20 04:47 AM] wren#0114
the barbary pirates war was about stopping killing and enslavement of US citizens by the islamic nations of north africa


[26-Jul-20 04:47 AM] wren#0114
who the european powers just paid off tribute to


[26-Jul-20 04:48 AM] wren#0114
the debate was either pay tribute or pay to make a navy and defend our basic commerce


[26-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Frosku#5874
IS attacked us multiple times @Opponent, before we got involed in Syria. San Bernardino, Curtis Culwell Center, Ohio State University, NYC...


[26-Jul-20 04:48 AM] Frosku#5874
All of those militants were ISIS 'soldiers', trained by ISIS and radicalized by ISIS.


[26-Jul-20 04:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
ISIS rose from the veterans of the Iraqi military that the U.S. threw out.


[26-Jul-20 04:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
If we hadn't insisted on killing Saddam, it wouldn't have happened.


[26-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Frosku#5874
Still, if you leave us the Hell alone, we leave you alone too, if you attack America, we find out if your country can glow in the dark. That's a foreign policy I can back.


[26-Jul-20 04:50 AM] wren#0114
also we put in the rightful ruler by birth prince hamet 💪


[26-Jul-20 04:50 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah turns out that unless you commit to genocide killing terrorist faster than you make thems an untenable stratagy


[26-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Stonetoss is an actual for-real white nationalist. Not all his comics are *about* that so it's forgivable if you didn't know, but yeah.


[26-Jul-20 04:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
Genocide it is then 😛


[26-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Frosku#5874
So that's why ISIS went from ~80 attacks a year to like 6 in 2019 after we wiped out their caliphate?


[26-Jul-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
because the project has served it's purpose.


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Pontology#1010
I know he's weirdly obsessed with israel and jews and is probably antisemitic. I don't post or approve of those comics. But his other comics are good. Separate the art from the artist.

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[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wait was


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Frosku#5874
> Separate the art from the artist.
Advice most people should hear on repeat until they get it.


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Mad max racist?


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] wren#0114
that took me a second to figure out


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] Honahue#0656
At least Lovecraft recinded his racist views


[26-Jul-20 04:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think it's fine to let individual comics stand alone.
Bad people can make good points on occasion.


[26-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
Mel Gibson is


[26-Jul-20 04:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lovecraft only barely rescinded.


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[26-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
eh

This art *is* the artist in essence. Whole series is meant to drive far-right politics with a little absurdist humor sprinkled in to make it more palatable.


[26-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Honahue#0656
he threated to dismember his corospondant if they released his earlier racist letters, he was ded tho


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] jlun2#8758
> Separate the art from the artist.
depends on their art. if they make things irrelevant to their beliefs, sure.
if they go full politics in their work im out


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Honahue#0656
also thought FDR's New Deal wasn't left enough


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
with this comic dear Stonetoss is implying he has anywhere near the cultural value of Mad Max or Lovecraft stuff.


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, basically. Like, I enjoyed L. Neil Smith's Lando Calrissian novels even though Smith himself is pretty right-leaning


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Frosku#5874
In general we should separate the argument from the person making it.

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[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
well, one drawback he definitely doesn't have is excess humility.


[26-Jul-20 04:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because those books were pretty apolitical. Stonetoss is *entirely* political, and its politics are bad.


[26-Jul-20 04:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Individual works can stand alone, imo.
Also, does "cultural value" excuse extreme racism now?


[26-Jul-20 04:55 AM] wren#0114
I don't get many traditional america memes let me enjoy them ree

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[26-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Not all of its politics.

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[26-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
@>That Guy depending on the scale, yes.


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[26-Jul-20 04:55 AM] Pontology#1010
Non-interventionism is good, and that particular comic is a good one. So I'll post it.


[26-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874

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[26-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Frosku#5874
I laugh at about half of stonetoss and about half is cringe.

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[26-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Black man: "Oh, good thing I own this gun"


[26-Jul-20 04:56 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, many good comics.


[26-Jul-20 04:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
I disagree.
Artists can write bad things, but having shitty views doesn't necessarily mean you can't appreciate their work. Being good artists doesn't excuse bad behavior, but bad behavior doesn't spoil good art.
All individual art pieces should stand alone. Appreciate the good ones and admonish the bad ones.

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[26-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Artists can't make anything separate from their views, IMO.


[26-Jul-20 04:57 AM] Opponent#3498
well, there you go. There's your 'art'. It stands alone quite well even without kwowing the person :D


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All art is a mix of skill and the subconscious of the artist.


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] wren#0114
ok brb drawing pro communism to prove you wrong

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[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
anonymous artist :twiright:


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, no. Lovecraft was a vicious racist and his fiction is completely divorced from that.


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
i mean unless its show style you'll prob figure who tho if its a high profile artist


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
@Pontology  he knew - all is equal in death :D


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Counterpoint: Tolkien and Card.


[26-Jul-20 04:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see Stonetoss as a singular body of work though. In this case, every strip is collectively part of "the art"


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
Tolkien just didn't care, he used the tropes that were popular


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember seeing Ender's Game in theaters, it's the only time I've ever laughed out loud at a non-comedy movie in public.


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Frosku#5874

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[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Honahue#0656
also Lovecraft's work is 100% his racism and xenophobia put to the page


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess I could make a "non-racist" cut of Birth of a Nation and only watch the scenes that don't glorify the Klan and demonize black people but the movie would be incomplete and incomprehensible at that point.


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not all of loecrafts work was divorced from his racism.


[26-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Pontology#1010
I haven't seen that one.


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
the "race" part in tolkien makes me go :squintyjack:


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] wren#0114
SHALL NOT


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"FEEL BAD FOR THESE RANDOM BUGS"- Guy who doesn't think gay people should exist


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Races in Tolkien's works are different species. It's fine if they're not equal.


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, Tolkien wrote fiction, not a political screed. I can enjoy his work independently of his awful views.


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're just Jew/black/etc allegories.


[26-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
Tolkien used orientalist tropes but again he just didn't care, the scathing letter he sent to the Nazi's about the German translation of the Hobbit is amazing


[26-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean even if they weren't, it's fine to depict racism in fiction. It's actually a powerful way to explore it.


[26-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
@jlun2 Everyone back then spoke that way. I was perusing a library of antique books today and one of them from 1962 was "History of the Irish Race"


[26-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Frosku#5874
MLP & Zootopia did it, amongst many other popular media.


[26-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Pontology#1010
The word was used casually like that.


[26-Jul-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Frosku Your right to speech isn't absolute, why should gun ownership be?


[26-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Frosku#5874
My right to speech is absolute unless I'm deliberately inciting violence. If I start pointing my gun at people for no reason, feel free to take it away.


[26-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, I love L. Neil Smith's Lando Calrissian trilogy but the author's a Trump supporter and pretty overtly right-wing in real life. In Smith's case, his art doesn't push his political views. Stonetoss as a comic does even if select strips don't always do that, so I still see the comic *as a whole* as one singular piece of work that I (I think justifiably) write off as not worth my time.


[26-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Or fighting words, or fraud, or obscenity...)


[26-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Pontology#1010
Not obscenity


[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Frosku#5874
None of those are banned because speech, they're banned because of the implications of that speech.


[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Obscenity just means porn and poop jokes.


[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Depicting racism in fiction is fine. Depicting it as a *good* or *normal* thing is kinda cringe


[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In practice


[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] wren#0114

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[26-Jul-20 05:03 AM] Pontology#1010
Porn is constitutionally protected, and so is the f-word https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-profanity/supreme-court-allows-foul-language-trademarks-in-f-word-case-idUSKCN1TP1TQ

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Supreme Court allows foul language trademarks in F-word case
The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a longstanding U.S. ban on trademarks on "immoral" or "scandalous" words and symbols, ruling in a case involving a clothing brand with an indelicate name that the law violates constitutional free speech rights.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20190624&t=2&i=1401037874&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEF5N16H


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] jlun2#8758
i wonder would religious prudes try to revert that


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656
remember this shitty movie that did use Orcs as code for blacks

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[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess N-word brand clothing will just fail on the market


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
but


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano I agree with not depicting it as good, though there are probably ways that could be done to provoke thought, but depicting it as normal is fine especially if you write historical fiction.


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*but*

the human is black, how can the orcs be-


[26-Jul-20 05:04 AM] Honahue#0656

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[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] jlun2#8758
:inkyhuh:


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Frosku#5874
Art is *complicated*.


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, I've played plenty of d&d games where racism was normal.


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] wren#0114
the absolute state of netflix


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't mean normal as in "it happened here" but more like cast in a positive light.


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
I remember when my leprechaun was overcharged at every shop for being "bad luck".


[26-Jul-20 05:05 AM] wren#0114
kek


[26-Jul-20 05:06 AM] wren#0114
very rude


[26-Jul-20 05:06 AM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy dont worry once we master gene editting specism will be a thing irl


[26-Jul-20 05:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
It was a great game though. And the superstitious racist commoners really hammered in the immersion. My bard skills were put to the test.


[26-Jul-20 05:06 AM] Pontology#1010
"Racism" in Lord of the Rings was positive; who would want the hobbits and dwarves and humans and elves to mix together? They're each a special race in their own way.


[26-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Frosku#5874
Let me give an example of depicting racism as normal/good that I think was perfectly acceptable. Sacha Baron Cohen made a song in character as Borat called "throw the Jew down the well" in which he full-throatedly recites a bunch of anti-semitic stereotypes, and performed it at a honkeytonk in the south. Cohen is ofc Jewish.

The reason he did it in that light was to show just how easily people would accept those racist thoughts if they were presented in that manner.


[26-Jul-20 05:07 AM] jlun2#8758
but hybrid babies :ts_cry:


[26-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Frosku#5874
It was to demonstrate the power of "casual" hate as opposed to obvious hate.


[26-Jul-20 05:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is actually one reason I'm really disappointed with how the Mario RPGs have recently dumbed down and over-simplified how they depict Mario species.

You used to see good Goombas and Koopa Troopas just peacefully living among the Toads in the older Paper Mario games, showing that not all of them were loyal to Bowser. But now they've been simplified to pretty much always be Bowser's minions with any exceptions being due to amnesia or extenuating circumstances.


[26-Jul-20 05:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Only elves would breed with humans and make half-elf degenerates.
The dwarven bloodline remains pure!


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Dr. Mechano Blame Super Paper Mario, despite the fact that it was the best selling game in the series.


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] wren#0114
dwarves are too ugly for the other races to marry them


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Frosku#5874
And this is why I say "art is complicated", because artists don't always think in linear/simplistic terms, they think in meta-analytical terms or satire.


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] wren#0114
:smugset:


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
Elven propaganda!


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nintendo is so strict about how Mario and friends are portrayed you can't even show Luigi having socks

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[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I loved SPM but I'm sad they took the wrong message from it.


[26-Jul-20 05:08 AM] Honahue#0656
that sounds even worse whe the Dwarves are specifically tied to Semetic languages and Tolkien himself said they were based of Jews cause they lost their own lands and were in other countries but had accents thanks to keeping their own languange


[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Pontology#1010
jej


[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let us have good Goombas. Let us have evil Toads.


[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Original vs remake

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[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Dwarves are cool though.

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[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
disgust


[26-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because no one will ever buy a Luigi toy or shirt ever if they know he wears red and white socks


[26-Jul-20 05:10 AM] wren#0114
dead elf wagon


[26-Jul-20 05:10 AM] wren#0114
BASED


[26-Jul-20 05:10 AM] Honahue#0656
it is funny that Dwarves stopped being jews and become Scot/German/Russian/whatever people think of when they thing guy who gets drunk and fights a lot


[26-Jul-20 05:10 AM] wren#0114
>my character is sober so I'm rolling all checks with a disadvantage now


[26-Jul-20 05:10 AM] wren#0114
:lul:


[26-Jul-20 05:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
>not even a stone bridge


[26-Jul-20 05:13 AM] wren#0114
the whole point of fantasy is that it is not reality and it is not affecting reality to explore topics in that setting


[26-Jul-20 05:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. I just think "monolithic racial morality" is boring in stories. The idea that every single member of x species is good or evil is *less interesting* than allowing for variety.


[26-Jul-20 05:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's not every member, just most.


[26-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Honahue#0656
SciFi does that but Tolkien was myth building he didn't really care about exploring current events, tho some would say he was writting about his opinions on war and industrialistion, he was trying to make his own fairy tales in the Anglo Saxon model


[26-Jul-20 05:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Usually based on religion.
Impale those who insult Kurtulmak! Kill all gnomes! Kobold pride!


[26-Jul-20 05:15 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Honahue#0656
and fantasy does too but that wasn't really Tolkiens goal


[26-Jul-20 05:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I actually do like that later seasons of MLP started to flesh out the various non-pony kingdoms. Like, our first exposure to griffins is pretty negative, but then we see some cool/nice ones later - and still more not-so-good ones too.


[26-Jul-20 05:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Besides, in a world where races are different species, why couldn't some just be bad, evil, or stupid?
Imo, the only thing that matters is mechanical balance. If you don't like it don't play it.


[26-Jul-20 05:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just find it less interesting, like I said.


[26-Jul-20 05:17 AM] wren#0114
I never really liked the way religion works in stuff like d&d/pathfinder. Maybe because I'm a Christfag, but I don't enjoy seemingly random gods/godesses. Feels shallow to me


[26-Jul-20 05:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
I like evil races. I like hobgoblins, kobolds, and orcs. Evil races are fun to play, and evil more fun to fight.


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Honahue#0656
the earliest religions were animism where everything is basically a spirit


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```Besides, in a world where races are different species, why couldn't some just be bad, evil, or stupid?```


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, it's not a moral thing. I'm not here to defend the integrity of fictional species with no real-life analogues, just a story preference thing for me.


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] wren#0114
fair


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
because it implies a homogenous culture across the entire race.


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] wren#0114
I just like good story/fun campaign


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
the only race I'd accept like that is humans, as greedy conquerors, for obvious reasons.


[26-Jul-20 05:18 AM] wren#0114
reading irl politics into hobbies is cancer imo


[26-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
About the only way a homogenous morality would be believable to me is if that race were artificially created, like robots or golems or something else "pre-programmed" to be a certain way.


[26-Jul-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
You would like the church of Zarus then. He's the lawful evil god of humanity.


[26-Jul-20 05:19 AM] Honahue#0656
because orcs don't real but the tropes they embodied were based off real populations thats why they get called racist


[26-Jul-20 05:19 AM] wren#0114
what?


[26-Jul-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
He teaches his followers to erradicate and enslave nonhumans.


[26-Jul-20 05:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Read Races Of Destiny. It's the 3.5e book about humankind.


[26-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Honahue#0656
If I call a race Morks but everything I say about them is basically an Arab stereotype just because Morks don't exist doesn't mean it's not racist


[26-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, wren, I think irl politics can be interesting in hobbies if done well.

Metal Gear has a lot of (imo) well-written takes on war.


[26-Jul-20 05:21 AM] Honahue#0656
that's what happened with Orcs


[26-Jul-20 05:21 AM] wren#0114
I don't really see it


[26-Jul-20 05:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
Orcs are great. Gruumsh is based. Fuck e*ves.


[26-Jul-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
@Honahue the question is, can they be like this according to the logic of the world you're depicting? If the answer is _yes_, the entire argument falls apart and can be dismissed.


[26-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and it IS _yes_ generally, unless you really suck at writing.


[26-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, it gets into how ptsd can screw up a soldier's outlook on life and how troops are treated as expendable by the government and that stuff has some pretty obvious real-life comparisons.


[26-Jul-20 05:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Orcs are absolute savages, and I wouldn't want it any other way. It's what their god expects of them, the center of their culture.


[26-Jul-20 05:23 AM] Honahue#0656
"squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes: in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types"
-Tolkien on orcs


[26-Jul-20 05:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Gruumsh is a badass god too. His non-orc aspect, Talos, is also pretty cool.


[26-Jul-20 05:24 AM] wren#0114
that is a cool exploration of that topic @Dr. Mechano. I love good stories and hobbies which explore real topics. I meant more of people reading too deeply and trying to draw parallels with the current year zeitgeist, and trying to force changes to things if they don't line up


[26-Jul-20 05:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
modern depictions of orcs usually don't adhere to this. They just make them cool green fangly guys


[26-Jul-20 05:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not as cool as Kurtulmak though.


[26-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I think saying things about current issues with art is fine. Hobbies aren't just escapism, sometimes art has something to say and that's fine.


[26-Jul-20 05:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
Imo, the best reason to explain why a race is evil is because of their religion: the center of culture.


[26-Jul-20 05:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
but what about nonbelievers


[26-Jul-20 05:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
Apostates who should be destroyed.


[26-Jul-20 05:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
Also, it really sucks to die without a patron deity in d&d.


[26-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The evil religion gets its own Martin Luther who reforms it and turns it into a slightly less evil religion


[26-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Pontology#1010
>center of jewish religion and culture is child genital cutting


[26-Jul-20 05:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
What if the god of said religion personally smites apostate clerics?


[26-Jul-20 05:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kurtulmak was pretty serious when he said all gnomes should die.


[26-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Clerics can make Bite rings, so they’re okay in my book


[26-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then in that case, the "evil race" are being held hostage by their god effectively. They can't be good if they want to because their god would kill them.


[26-Jul-20 05:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Also, Kurtulmak was based. He stole the gift of sorcery to share it with his people. His ascension story in 3.5e was pretty cool.


[26-Jul-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
What if the god created them to be evil?


[26-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do they have free will? Like I said, I could believe "pre-programmed" beings without true free will could be monolithic in their morality.


[26-Jul-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Or what if the race itself is naturally inclined towards savage, violent, or otherwise evil acts on instinct?


[26-Jul-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Afterall, they're not humans.


[26-Jul-20 05:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
Besides, few races are "always evil", but several are "usually evil".


[26-Jul-20 05:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, that is why Orcs are bad.


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Orcs are cool because they're bad. If they weren't savage, violent raiders they'd be boring.


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Same with Daleks in Doctor Who


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Pontology#1010
They genetically engineered themselves to feel only hate


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, but getting a playable orc on your team who's more of an antihero than a straight-up villain can also be cool.


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Pontology#1010
And use nanotechnology as a safeguard


[26-Jul-20 05:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds are naturally cowardly and sadistic. That's what makes them so good at setting traps.


[26-Jul-20 05:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
Sure, you can play an orc. I've played several.


[26-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kobolds are evil because they’re downtrodden and unwanted, they worship dragons, but they’re tiny murder lizards and I love them.


[26-Jul-20 05:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds worship Kurtulmak.


[26-Jul-20 05:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
And I adore kobolds.

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[26-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kobolds also worship dragons in non pathfinder stuff


[26-Jul-20 05:34 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I believe it’s shiny shit and dragons.


[26-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The shiny shit is usually wanted by the dragon


[26-Jul-20 05:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, they're dragon-simps because dragons offer them protection in exchange for gems and lair-maintenance.

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[26-Jul-20 05:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds are excellent miners.


[26-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Question is


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If you were a dragon, and your kobold servants offered you a random merchant, how would you respond


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
"Thanks."


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] wren#0114
kobolds are goblins with slightly stronger bodies


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Honahue#0656
you don't turn down a gift


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Opponent#3498
a merchant can have many uses. It's a very practical gift.


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, kobolds are weaker than goblins


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] wren#0114
o


[26-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kobolds use traps


[26-Jul-20 05:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds love traps, poison and explosives


[26-Jul-20 05:38 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Goblins just bum rush you with shivs and shit, slice your ankles up


[26-Jul-20 05:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds are savvy with bad intentions, and a trap is a big lump of that.


[26-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kobolds want to become dragon kin


[26-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Which is pretty much dragon but puny, so I respect them.


[26-Jul-20 05:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kobolds *are* dragonkin. They're Reptilian humanoids with the dragonblood subtype.

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[26-Jul-20 05:41 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 05:41 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 05:42 AM] wren#0114
poor lizzer


[26-Jul-20 05:42 AM] wren#0114
I guess I'll let him eat my leftovers


[26-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
weaver gave us so much


[26-Jul-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
Gosh, I love kobolds


[26-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Honahue#0656
cutebold, boxdog, fail guy, ice pack


[26-Jul-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
there's something more to it; if they're being subordinate to a greater being, their own morality really doesn't matter. They do what is told (or they get eaten). There's obvious leeway in 'hows' but in general what they think about it doesn't matter much and can change over time.


[26-Jul-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, kobolds are just as evil without dragons involved.
And i love them that way.


[26-Jul-20 05:46 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 05:46 AM] wren#0114
kek


[26-Jul-20 05:46 AM] wren#0114
which classes do you like playing


[26-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Opponent#3498
being seen as evil and weak is a pretty awful long-term survival strat


[26-Jul-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
I make a kobold that was a Rogue/Cleric/Spellthief/Trapsmith/Assassin/Unseen Seer/Spellwarp Sniper/Battle Sorcerer/Maho Tsukai.
All about Sneak-Attacking with spells before closing in with deadly metamagick'd AoE attacks.
Kobold masterrace!

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[26-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
well, this is the conflict between fluff and crunch


[26-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
hillarious, true.


[26-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
That looks like


[26-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Treascair#7785
> weaver gave us so much
@Honahue 

Rubyquest and Nanquest, too! I'm happy to donate to him for all the entertainment


[26-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
TG


[26-Jul-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
My kobold delved in the forbidden artys of maho (blood magic) to get revenge on the world for the slaughter of her tribe.


[26-Jul-20 05:56 AM] wren#0114
are kobolds warm blooded


[26-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Opponent#3498
@Treascair who is weaver?


[26-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Wanted to kill all non-kobolds, starting with gnomes. Wore a black jumpsuit that made her look like ~~ISIS~~ a ninja, and a little Totenkomf with the holy symbol of Kurtulmak on it (a gnome's skull).
Kobolds are cold-blooded.


[26-Jul-20 05:56 AM] wren#0114
can you warm their blood with blood magic


[26-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Treascair#7785
> @Treascair who is weaver?
@Opponent 

TGWeaver, did a lot of MS paint art and comics and got stupid popular off it.  Even has a serious talent for writing fic


[26-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
There are plenty of spells that help survive cold weather


[26-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Treascair#7785
He did a huge FNAF fanfic some time ago that's stellar, and he's got a Zootopia fic he's still plugging away at even now, years later.


[26-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Opponent#3498
ew, FNAF, zootopia...


[26-Jul-20 05:58 AM] wren#0114
can you force a boner by manipulating bloodflow


[26-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Opponent#3498
still, if they're that good, might be prudent to check them out still.


[26-Jul-20 05:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
My kobold is a Xorvintaal, Spellhoarding, Loredrake.

I saw a spell in the BoEF that does that... it's a silly book.


[26-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Frosku#5874

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[26-Jul-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, I don't have any problem with voter ID so long as various kind of ID are accepted. Pretty sure most people have a driver's license or similar form of identification they can use, or the means to attain one.


[26-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Opponent#3498
this I actually agree with. Perhaps too many places demand ID, but there's no reason why voting place wouldn't. Assuming that, yes, any kind of valid ID would be accepted.


[26-Jul-20 06:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Before I got my driver's license i had one of those State ID cards.


[26-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Frosku#5874
Seems reasonable, as long as they can correspond it to the voter list


[26-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Frosku#5874
To make sure you're a citizen.


[26-Jul-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
It doesn't have to be that restrictive, but photo ID isn't that high of a bar to meet.


[26-Jul-20 06:06 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
accurate.


[26-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Frosku#5874

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[26-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and we're back into bait territory.


[26-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm just trying to start discussion.


[26-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Frosku#5874
How is that bait? Large flood of unskilled labor into the market = lower wages.


[26-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, allowing corporations to exploit underpriced labor by abusing immigrants doesn't help the labor market.
>but those are jobs Americans don't want to do!
Maybe people would want to do those jobs if they offered fair wages.


[26-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Frosku#5874
And they'd probably offer fair wages if they didn't have a near-unlimited supply of labor.


[26-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Frosku#5874
Because there'd be some semblence of that labor being in demand.


[26-Jul-20 06:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
Particularly illegal laborers, who never complain for fear of deportation.


[26-Jul-20 06:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's also no reason to think that the ideas of open borders and a living minimum wage are at odds with each other


[26-Jul-20 06:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If anything, they *shouldn't* be


[26-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Frosku#5874
Wel no, you could have both with massive unemployment I guess


[26-Jul-20 06:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
They aren't necessarily at odds.
But a lot of people use "need for labor" as an argument for open borders.


[26-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Frosku#5874
They are at odds, unless you use govt force to mandate minimum wage which will raise unemployment


[26-Jul-20 06:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
When the real solution should be to pay those workers more so people want to do those jobs.


[26-Jul-20 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
who do you think mandates minimum wage *now?*


[26-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Frosku#5874
If you want higher wages, you can't have unlimited labor on the market.


[26-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Frosku#5874
It's one of those triangles, you get to pick two:

Open borders
High wages
Low unemployment


[26-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Frosku#5874
You can have any two of these things, but not all three.


[26-Jul-20 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't at all buy into the idea that Job Creation as a pure number is a good metric to judge the health of the economy by or even a direct solution to the problem of unemployment


[26-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Frosku#5874
You don't buy into the idea that job creation is a solution to unemployment?


[26-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
you could go the MLK route and have a government jobs programs


[26-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Frosku#5874
No thanks


[26-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Honahue#0656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Jobs_and_Freedom

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[26-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean yeah you could go full communism too and we could all wait on bread lines.


[26-Jul-20 06:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
To me, it's a feel-good catchphrase that's real easy to show results with that have no bearing on the lives of those who need it, no. You can create 3x the jobs and get all of those jobs filled, but if everyone is working 3 jobs to get by, what have you accomplished?


[26-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Frosku#5874
Oh yeah I buy that, like you need full time jobs


[26-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Frosku#5874
But you dont create more full time jobs by fiat


[26-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Human-sized hamster wheels for unemployed people.
Did anyone do this yet :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And very rarely do you hear much from people promising Jobs™️ about labor training programs to increase the pool of employable skilled workers


[26-Jul-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it tends to be more an "if you build it, they will come" attitude


[26-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

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[26-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Frosku#5874
This was one of the major issues of Obamacare, it ended up causing a lot of peoples hours to get cut, so even if they saved money on insurance they lost it from their income.


[26-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Honahue#0656
there used to be a full employment position but it's gone away for some reason, in econ there's the "natural rate of unemployment" but I don't think anyones ever been there or if it real


[26-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Frosku#5874
Natural rate of unemployment largely refers to people between jobs and people who choose not to work or can't work.


[26-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[26-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Honahue#0656
damn it's like I took econ and was referencing that


[26-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Frosku#5874
That has nothing at all to do with the topic of discussion


[26-Jul-20 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it never seems to account for the possibility that maybe the reason the world isn't moving into a post-scarcity society is because it's still working off the assumption that everyone needs to be gainfully employed in order to contribute to the economy


[26-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Pontology#1010
Because that's true. Self-employment is employment.


[26-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Honahue#0656
and also no you're wrong, natural rate of unemployment is people moving between jobs or just entering the job markend, people who aren't looking for work are not in the work force and not included in unemployment


[26-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Frosku#5874
Because surely if less people were productive... we would move towards post scarcity faster?

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[26-Jul-20 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, of course. What do you think all the people who are worried about automation are worried about?


[26-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Frosku#5874
What they should be worried about is a $15 minimum wage.


[26-Jul-20 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It isn't that skynet is gonna take over. It's that people are gonna lose their jobs


[26-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Frosku#5874
Because I'm more than happy to engineer a robotic arm that can flip burgers and costs less than $15/hr to run.


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
we're like 5 years away from that tech becoming reliable enough to replace workers with


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Frosku#5874
It's not just about reliability though


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
getting it out a year or two earlier doesn't matter anymore, everyone sees what's coming


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Frosku#5874
Cost is also a factor, and so is general public perception of automation which isnt great.


[26-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Pontology#1010
Robots doing everything is how we get idiocracy


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Frosku#5874
There are a lot of reasons why business owners will take a slow boil approach to automation.


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sanders never got far enough into being a nominee for him to be criticized for his comments about how immigrants are bad for labor


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/technology/zume-shuts-down-its-robot-powered-pizza-business

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[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Pontology#1010
If we become completely dependent on robots and no longer work, we're like pets


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Crow#5457
I'm glad you think humans are useless if they aren't doing something you consider worthwile 24/7


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Frosku#5874
What? Can you literally stop straw manning me constantly?


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Honahue#0656
someone tried a robot pizza


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
I remember when he said that.


[26-Jul-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Upfront cost of automation is higher, for sure, but operational costs are why things like coal mines are run by 5 guys and a bunch of heavy machinery instead of 500 guys with pickaxes and black lung


[26-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Pontology#1010
Humans who never do anything worthwhile and just sit in the equivalent of a hamster cage being fed food and media by robots are useless, yes.


[26-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Companies _love_ to use race/class to prevent any sort of unionization.


[26-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Frosku#5874
Coal mines also aren't customer facing. Industries which are out of sight will be automated faster.


[26-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Opponent#3498
```If we become completely dependent on robots and no longer work, we're like pets```


[26-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Pontology#1010
It's the same reason NEETs are worthless, and feel worthless and awful.


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Opponent#3498
you're pets whether or not you believe you do productive work :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden has a really good labor plan ultimately, and that probably comes from being from PA.


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Opponent#3498
unless you _actually_ do something intellectual/creative which the vast majority of poeple do not.


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess that depends on your definition of productive


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People can't be judged by their output.


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Frosku#5874
I mean you could be a NEET and building something awesome or you could be a NEET and slobbering down your shirt while you cry about mean things said on the Internet.


[26-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you want to be pessimistic, no one ever really asked to be alive.


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Opponent#3498
as for NEET's, the reasoning is far less 'feel useless' and far more 'have no money => excluded from society'


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, and 95% of neets slobber down their shirts waking up at 3pm every time and posting on sites like /r9k/


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think it's important for people to be able to be independent. That's why I think people deserve good education to get jobs that won't easily be replaced.


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Frosku#5874
Well then get job and get money, or start a business and get money.


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Frosku#5874
If people just straight up refuse to contribute anything to society, why should they deserve anything back?


[26-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, I'm of the opinion that NEETs need to exist to consume, and also keep themselves out of the workforce for efficiency's sake


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Pontology#1010
Unfortunately, the jobs that won't easily be replaced are all jobs that require an IQ above 100, which most people do not have.


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Crow#5457
NEETs feel worthless and awful because they're told that they're worthless by society


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Frosku#5874
Even Marx said this: "he who does not work will not eat".


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Some people are better off being NEETs. Why bother them?


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Pontology#1010
It's going to be a serious issue moving forward, low-intelligence people not being able to find work.


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, to get really cynical, there's absolutely a group of people who stand to benefit from a whole lot of americans living in a hamster cage being fed food and media, and they're currently wielding a lot of political power


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was absolutely not Marx


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```Well then get job and get money, or start a business and get money.``` the question isn't how to fix it, the cookie-cutter answer is obvious enough.


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was John Smith, the Jamestown guy


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>Coal mines also aren't customer facing. Industries which are out of sight will be automated faster.

Inb4 someone finally makes them bimbo android bots stand by the counter and take your pizza orders :nut:


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, as a former NEET I can confirm that feeling useless was a big part of it.
Even digging trenches part time helped boost my confidence and think of myself as less of a social parasite.


[26-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Honahue#0656
also what makes someone contribute to society cause I know a lot of people think a lot of well paid people don't contribute to society yet they are making a lot of wealth


[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
CEO simply posted a statement that was wrong enough for me to bother correcting.


[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_who_does_not_work,_neither_shall_he_eat

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He who does not work, neither shall he eat
He who does not work, neither shall he eat is a New Testament aphorism originally by Paul the Apostle, later cited by John Smith in the early 1600s colony of Jamestown, Virginia, and by communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin during the early 1900s Russian Revolution.
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[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Congrats on getting out of neethood.


[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Thanks


[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Frosku#5874
It was Lenin


[26-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Yeah, I've read enough 4chan posts by neets to feel really bad for them. Feeling worthless is the motif of neethood.


[26-Jul-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what if they hadn't been drilled on the idea that self worth is measurable by working for someone

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[26-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Frosku#5874
> also what makes someone contribute to society cause I know a lot of people think a lot of well paid people don't contribute to society yet they are making a lot of wealth
@Honahue they're obviously contributing something that someone else values, or they wouldn't be getting paid a lot.


[26-Jul-20 06:33 AM] >That Guy#3386

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[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Epstein got paid a whole lot of money to keep his mouth shut, I guess they valued that enough to make sure he kept his mouth shut after he wasn't being paid anymore


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Pontology#1010
feels comic


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Honahue#0656
sounds kinda shitty, people don't contribute because other people make money off them


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's exactly what happens though


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The real freedom is realizing that 99% of people don't actually care about you in any way, and your idea of their acceptance is irrelevant


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Frosku#5874
We agree on that.


[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, I didn't contribute because I was depressed.
When I got a job my confidence really recovered. The best tool to fighting depression was keeping myself working.

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[26-Jul-20 06:34 AM] jlun2#8758
rip robot pizza  :ts_cry:


[26-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Frosku#5874
@>That Guy That's pretty much my experience too, having a routine and doing something productive makes me feel better.


[26-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Pontology#1010
It's amazing what being self-sufficient will do for self-image.


[26-Jul-20 06:35 AM] jlun2#8758
upload images to some booru every day


[26-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Frosku#5874
That too, I really dont like the idea of not being self sufficient.


[26-Jul-20 06:36 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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[26-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Pontology#1010
Source or it didn't happen.


[26-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Honahue#0656
kek


[26-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Frosku#5874
I love how "illegally" is now just another angry word.


[26-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Pontology#1010
N o  p e o p l e  a r e  i l l e g a l


[26-Jul-20 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm not saying that in this utopian futuristic post-scarcity idyllic whatever that no one would have to work a day in their life, it's more like the adage "find a job you enjoy and you'll never work a day in your life" - like, imagine if it were feasible for *everyone* to get by making let's play videos. Or fixing cars. Or whatever.


[26-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/us/portland-protests-mayor/index.html

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[26-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Frosku#5874
I think we will end up at that place, once all unfulfilling work can be done by machines economically.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Frosku#5874
Most people will work in creative work.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, creative work can only go do far.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And some people will make wooden dolphin statues and some will just smoke weed all day.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the thing is, a lot of fulfilling work will be automated, but that's when the manual version becomes a boutique thing


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
There's a reason why I stopped being a polisci major. I wanted a job.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Frosku#5874
As long as they share the weed I'm happy to share the food


[26-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weed is provided by the government.


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but having the economic safety net to do something by hand that is automated is one of the hallmarks of post-scarcity, imo


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Frosku#5874
Nah, utopias dont have governments.


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Essentially, the government would subsidize entertainment/leisure to ensure people have things to do/work on)


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Pontology#1010
>federal forces, whose camouflage, troop-like uniforms and aggressive tactics have exacerbated the protests.
That's not unidentified federal agents. They're clearly identified by their uniforms.
I'm sure if you ask them for ID if you're being detained, they'd be obliged to show you.


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Frosku#5874
Even governments that give us weed. Government is a necessary evil. Evils aren't needed in utopias.


[26-Jul-20 06:39 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony im an idiot playing games by hand instead of botting them


[26-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember in like sixth grade we had to design our version of a utopia, I'm pretty sure I designed a fascist dictatorship/incredibly harmful shame culture.


[26-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Multicam is multibrach, the Military is trying to go back to one camo logistic chain instead of the weird shitshow they had in the late 00's early 10's


[26-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Frosku#5874
LOL


[26-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Frosku#5874
In 6th grade I probably would have designed a communist state 😂


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like, education was free and you had the _option_ not to do it, but you were basically an outcast


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I dunno, the most I've seen of the footage from Portland showing federal arrests involves the most identifiable things being a patch that says "POLICE" and a camo-colored shoulder patch. Good luck identifying anything from that when you're nowhere near a federal property


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Frosku#5874
I was pretty much far left until I was about 17.


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, no capital punishment but you got banished into the desert.


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Honestly, thinking back I basically made ancient Athens or something


[26-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Did the tear gas used by usa police so widely this year affect environment yet? :smugcaddy:


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Frosku#5874
I remember being made to design a religion and mine was worship of the Internet


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Opponent#3498
> We agree on that.
I'd be suprised if you wouldn't, it's the basis of capitalist thought :D


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh god I'm just remembering my people had a cult of sheep worship


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Frosku#5874
This was back in the days of IRC and Usenet.


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] wren#0114
kek


[26-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I made a cult of sociopathic Welshmen.


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who were also obsessed with nuclear power.


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.dontshootpdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/DSPFinal-RCAreport4SocialChange-AM.AR_.ZW_.DS-.pdf


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Frosku#5874
Objection: there are no deserts in Wales. 😂


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] wren#0114
there are in australia


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Frosku#5874
Sounds like you designed Iran. Except Iran definitely has the death sentence.


[26-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Opponent#3498
> I'm sure if you ask them for ID if you're being detained, they'd be obliged to show you.


[26-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[26-Jul-20 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know how verifiable this study/report is, but it appears one of the effects of the over-use of tear gas is that it might actually have increased the transmission of COVID-19


[26-Jul-20 06:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
I had a project like that.
I made a pseudo-theocracy where the king was a genetically-enhanced ultimate lifeform.


[26-Jul-20 06:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
Good times.


[26-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Frosku#5874
> I don't know how verifiable this study/report is, but it appears one of the effects of the over-use of tear gas is that it might actually have increased the transmission of COVID-19
@WingbeatPony Oh yes, it was the tear gas, not the massive crowd.


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, that's just it. So far the crowds *haven't* actually shown a correlation in that regard


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Was basically Warhammer 40K, in hindsight.


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
@Pontology, they aren't wearing any identifiable uniform, they're wearing uniforms available for anyone to buy on ebay


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least, not the ones wearing masks. The ones where there are protests against masks show a clear corellation


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What about coughing and wheezing people after getting gassed?


[26-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Pontology#1010
@WingbeatPony Wow, those """academics""" don't have a clue what they're talking about. They think we're using tear gas on protestors. We're not. We're using mace.

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[26-Jul-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yeah, that's what the pdf I linked said


[26-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Honahue#0656
if they hadn't been tear gassed they wouldn't need first aid for it, can't wear a mask that's been tear gassed, having been through the CS chamber in basic you take your mask off walk out walk 3 laps then your clothes and mask all have to be washed before you can use them again


[26-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/the-semantics-of-tear-gas-versus-pepper-spray/

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The Semantics of 'Tear Gas' Versus 'Pepper Spray'
Democratic politicians have criticized President Donald Trump for the use of "tear gas" to disperse protesters near the White House on June 1 before Trump walked to St. John's Episcopal Church to pose for photos with a Bible. The president countered, "They didn't use tear gas."
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[26-Jul-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Um, yes, we are using tear gas?

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[26-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Crow#5457
> According to the Scientific American and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, pepper spray is a type of “tear gas” or “riot control agent.”


[26-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm just laughing at "Skat Shell"


[26-Jul-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, CS gas *and* pepper spray/mace have been identified as being in use


[26-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Pontology#1010
Ok. But the article specifically said, "...raises ethical concerns, if we can't use tear gas on enemies in war, why are we using it on rioters?"
So they clearly thought we were using actual tear gas.


[26-Jul-20 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What evidence do you have to the contrary?


[26-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
it doesn't matter what the chemical make-up of the chemical weapon is if it has the same exact side effects


[26-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Frosku#5874
But it doesn't.


[26-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Honahue#0656
chemical weapons are banned which would include pepper spray


[26-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Opponent#3498
it shouldn't, anyway.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Frosku#5874
I don't think pepper spray is a banned chemical weapon.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Pontology#1010
The idea that pepper spray should be banned is ridiculous. Pepper spray saved my mom from being raped, and is a better thing to carry around than a gun.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Honahue#0656
Pepper spray is banned for use in war by Article I.5 of the Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the use of all riot control agents in warfare whether lethal or less-than-lethal.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Actually, pepper spray *specifically* is banned by the Geneva Convention


[26-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Pfft, well we should continue to disregard that part then


[26-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Pontology#1010
Because that's extremely stupid. Much better to carry around pepper spray for self-defense than a gun, generally speaking.


[26-Jul-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, this is where the " if we can't use tear gas on enemies in war, why are we using it on rioters" thing came from


[26-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Frosku#5874
Oh, that makes sense because of WWI, but that wasn't aimed at pepper spray, it was aimed at like mustard gas.


[26-Jul-20 06:50 AM] Crow#5457
you're equating stopping the government from being able to lob bombs filled with pepper spray to citizens using pepper spray for personal defense


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
that's like saying we should take away guns from citizens because soldiers can use them to kill people


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Frosku#5874
"asphyxiating gas, or any other kind of gas, liquids, substances or similar materials"


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
or police, for that matter


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Pontology#1010
The UK actually did ban its citizens from using pepper spray for self-defense


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Frosku#5874
Yep


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
ok


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Honahue#0656
have you been tear gassed cause I have


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
and that's relevant why?


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Frosku#5874
Twice.


[26-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
the herring is red


[26-Jul-20 06:52 AM] Frosku#5874
It's very unpleasant. It's not going to kill you in the doses used for riot control.


[26-Jul-20 06:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And what did you have to recite? 'Cause I bet you had to recite something when it happened. You weren't a civilian protesting for your rights


[26-Jul-20 06:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty confident in saying that


[26-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Honahue#0656
unless you have ashma or some other respritory problem, or the officer just dumps the whole can into your face cause they're powertripping


[26-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>The UK actually did ban its citizens from using pepper spray for self-defense

UK people legit use extinguishers to combat terrorists now :smugset:


[26-Jul-20 06:53 AM] Pontology#1010
Ah ok. CS spray is used. Wiki:
> Members of the United States armed forces are exposed to CS during initial training, and during training refresher courses or equipment maintenance exercises, using CS tablets that are melted on a hotplate. This is to demonstrate the importance of properly wearing a gas or protective mask, as the agent's presence quickly reveals an improper fit or seal of the mask's rubber gaskets against the face. Following exposure while wearing a mask, recruits are ordered to remove the masks and endure exposure in the room.


[26-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
So it's unpleasant but obviously not harmful.


[26-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Frosku#5874
The first one was at a sporting event, the second was at a protest against police violence.


[26-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The other one was forced to use narwhal tusk.

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[26-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Pontology#1010
Or we wouldn't subject every military person to it as part of training.


[26-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Honahue#0656
yeah and you can't have ashma to join either


[26-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Opponent#3498
> UK people legit use extinguishers to combat terrorists now 
well, UK is the land of the cuck these days, so not much is suprising coming from there.


[26-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Frosku#5874
Its harmful but not severely harmful in healthy people. You wouldnt want to be exposed to a lot of it.


[26-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Opponent#3498
wonder why did they bother with brexit, if total submission to any threat was the ultimate goal.


[26-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Frosku#5874
The dose makes the poison too. Police are not firing military grade gases at you.


[26-Jul-20 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
These arguments suddenly defending CS gas are the same ones used to justify "less-than-lethal" weaponry like rubber bullets after it was demonstrated that they can and do kill


[26-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Pontology#1010
Point is riot control and, with covid, perhaps curfew enforcement in cities that have curfews.


[26-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
tear gas is banned by the military so of course they aren't using "military grade"


[26-Jul-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that isn't how it works


[26-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Frosku#5874
As in, the dose used in riot control is not going to suffocate you.


[26-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Pontology#1010
If there have not been any deaths from it, I can't see a problem with it if used in proper contexts (e.g. riot control)


[26-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Honahue#0656
yes the same people saying just follow curfew are the ones bitching that they couldn't get hair cuts a month earlier

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[26-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
One girl was suffocated iirc


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Frosku#5874
Underlying conditions?


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Seems to me like that's making an awful lot of assumptions, like that everyone in the crowd is healthy, or that the police will dispense their supply in a reasonable fashion and not so much that they run out of it or anything...


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
it's not being used in proper context


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Crow#5457
it's being used on protesters exercising their right to protest


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Pontology#1010
Article from June 4 talking about its dangers doesn't mention any deaths.


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Or spray people directly in the face for a prolonged time?


[26-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Frosku#5874
I'd rather see tear gas than rubber bullets, for riot control. It's a lot less dangerous.


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah when you're burning down cities your right to protest went out the window a while back.


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How about not sending riot control to break up peaceful protests


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Frosku#5874
How about not calling riots peaceful protests?


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
or, y'know, just not use riot control weapons on peaceful protesters


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
can you stop with the strawmanning


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Pontology#1010
Considering that the mainstream media calls literal arson "protests", I don't believe at all that they use tear gas on peaceful protestors following the law.


[26-Jul-20 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's becoming more and more evident that the "riots" are a fraction of a fraction of the people out on the street and a lot of it's been provoked by police presence


[26-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm not straw manning, you are. The police are dealing with people looting and stealing, burning out shops, etc. That clearly calls for riot police.


[26-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Pontology#1010
I'd believe that some peaceful protestors got caught up in it, but only due to violence nearby or from some of their members, or curfew violation.


[26-Jul-20 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Why wouldn't it call for regular police?


[26-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
ah yes, the "no u" argument


[26-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
prove it


[26-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Frosku#5874
When *would* you advocate using riot police? At what point does it become a riot?


[26-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
the goalposts haven't just been moved, they've been flung into orbit


[26-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Wut? You literally said "not using riot control weapons on peaceful protestors"? As far as I know they've not been like shooting rubber bullets into civil crowds.


[26-Jul-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they have.


[26-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Frosku#5874
Proof?


[26-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Frosku#5874
A video, not a CNN article


[26-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/police-break-rules-shooting-protesters-rubber-bullets-less-lethal-projectiles/3211421001/

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Dozens of demonstrators have been seriously injured when law enforcement shot them with rubber bullets and other “less lethal” projectiles.
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[26-Jul-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
[gestures at literally any police presence in the past 5 months caught on camera]


[26-Jul-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, boy, you can't possibly know as much about police as you've been professing so far and not know what they've been doing


[26-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Frosku#5874
I've seen a lot of police presence, and a lot of them facing down rioters who are smashing/burning/stealing.


[26-Jul-20 07:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
uh-uh. Not buying it. Wrong answer, try again.


[26-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Pontology#1010
Article says they violated their own rules.


[26-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Frosku#5874
If people are smashing/burning/stealing, they are no longer "peaceful". That is not covered under the first amendment.


[26-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrMoqSPZym0&t=28m8s

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[26-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/11/journalist-blinded-during-protest-sues-minneapolis-police-state-patrol/

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Journalist blinded by rubber bullet during protest sues Minneapolis...
A journalist who was blinded by a rubber bullet while covering George Floyd protests in Minneapolis filed a lawsuit Wednesday in U.S. District Court against city and state law enforcement.
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[26-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Pontology#1010
They learn in training not to shoot anywhere near the head or neck.


[26-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
@Pontology, so? was asked to prove it happened, proved it happened, I happen to not make claims I can't prove


[26-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Honahue#0656
she was wearing press credentials too


[26-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not the one who asked for proof it happened. A google search showed it did.


[26-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
ok


[26-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>They learn in training not to shoot anywhere near the head or neck.

Clearly people just put their heads in front of muzzles :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[26-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Frosku#5874
That's a very long video, what's the timestamp where they're firing rubber bullets?


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Frosku#5874
The first 2 minutes the police seem to just be standing there not doing very much.


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Raptorshy#6268
It's not something you use very often I'd imagine, so I'd think enforcing training like that is probably difficult


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] wren#0114
I miss cs gas


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] wren#0114
my favorite annual training event


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The slow mo is gone


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
I linked a timestamp


[26-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Pontology#1010
Frosku, 37% of police departments authorize use of rubber bullets. Their rules are restrictive, and seem to have been broken in these cases in many ways.


[26-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Pontology#1010
Obviously, they can and should be used sometimes, but only "as a last resort before lethal force", as the officer quoted in that article says.


[26-Jul-20 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and there are enough incidents of this happening that it's clearly not isolated to one protest, police force, city, state, or size of the protest


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They were also supposed to be fired into ground to bounce off, not directly into people


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
maybe it's not a few bad apples but a systemic problem


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
Solution is better training to follow their own rules.


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the training is the problem


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Pontology#1010
um


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Frosku#5874
Why did they charge?


[26-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Honahue#0656
they already aren't following their own rules


[26-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Frosku#5874
I'm watching the video but the camera is facing away from the charge and whatever they charged at when it happens.


[26-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes. So they need to start following their own rules better.


[26-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Frosku#5874
^ That.


[26-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The issue is that police are detaining and beating people who are *not* rioting.


[26-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Frosku#5874
But this discussion seems to have gone a long way off of pepper spray towards "do some police sometimes do things they're not supposed to?"


[26-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Honahue#0656
what possible reason would they start doing that when they already get to do whatever they want, they'll just have a bigger list of rules they break


[26-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And that many (not all) of the conservative media are dishonestly trying to paint the protests *as a whole* as riots, when the majority are not.


[26-Jul-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The question really is, why are police being trained in the use of tear gas and rubber bullets


[26-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Pontology#1010
Some combination of better training—maybe to help appreciate the risk of things like rubber bullets through graphic videos of when it goes "wrong"—together with more punitive disciplinary action for not following the rules.


[26-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Frosku#5874
I know the majority aren't, but the majority also aren't getting tear gassed. Those things probably have a strong correlation.


[26-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine them getting punished at all


[26-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Pontology#1010
@WingbeatPony Because it's obviously necessary sometimes. Especially the rubber bullets, not for crowd control but for subduing dangerous murderers.


[26-Jul-20 07:12 AM] Frosku#5874
We've had peaceful protests here for about 5 weeks now. Police aren't even in riot gear.


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm sorry, when have you ever heard of rubber bullets being used in an incident where there was a suspected "dangerous murderer"


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Crow#5457
enough with the strawmans @Pontology


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Never


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When rioting happens in the same town as peaceful protests though, everyone gets blamed for it and *everyone* gets attacked. That's not acceptable.

Sometimes you don't even *need* riots for the feds to stomp in and start gassing people, like at Lafayette Square.


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Frosku#5874
Rubber bullets are for riot control, they're a less lethal alternative.


[26-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Pontology#1010
Well, I'd prefer rubber bullets to actual bullets, but I'm no officer. Maybe you're right and only actual bullets should be used.


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And "less lethal" doesn't mean "it won't kill you," just "it probably won't kill you"


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Frosku#5874
Of course.


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, "last resort before lethal force".


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No one said that real bullets should be used.


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Frosku#5874
But riots kill people too, so having a chain of escalation against rioters is essential.


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Pontology#1010
If you think police should never use real bullets, you're the crazy one.


[26-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In a good chunk of these cases, *no* force is necessary. I'm not saying all, obviously.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Frosku#5874
In a  good chunk no force is used though.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Escalation is the problem with police presence. What you really want at protests is *de*-escalation


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean the cases where force is used.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A lot of force is being used unnecessarily.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Serenity#9645
way i see it is if you stick around well a riot starts your a accessory to that riot, once it stops being signs and yelling and turns to blunt objects and arson i leave because im not about that

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[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Frosku#5874
I went to the tea party rallies, we had plenty of cops there, no force was used because it never got violent or nasty.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Frosku#5874
It was... a civil protest.


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe you are just white bruh :smugset:


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Pontology#1010
>muh racist cops


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Nope


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That does explain it, yeah, because in general tea party protests were protesting for things that the police union/commissioners/officers were chill with


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, plenty of BLM protesters are white and the cops and *especially* the feds have been unnecessarily violent with them too.


[26-Jul-20 07:16 AM] Frosku#5874
Middle Eastern. And no, because the tea party protests were family friendly protests in the civil tradition.


[26-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, likewise. My dad was a Jordanian immigrant.


[26-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Frosku#5874
Not aggressive mobs screaming like they just learned how to say the f-word and wanted to impress their friends.


[26-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
the thing is that there isn't actually any footage of the police trying to stop looting/burning, it's one of the biggest things that seem to be missing


[26-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Dispersing something turning into a riot is a way to prevent that


[26-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
no, you don't pre-emptively try to disperse people protesting peacefully


[26-Jul-20 07:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Except that time and again it's been shown that dispersing (or attempts to disperse) is what escalates protests


[26-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Crow#5457
that literally causes the burning/looting


[26-Jul-20 07:18 AM] Pontology#1010
Not pre-emptively. I said "turning into a riot". As in, rocks are beginning to be thrown at officers, things like that.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So, what? If I'm peacefully protesting and assholes show up, I should *stop* protesting? That makes it easy for people who don't like the message to just start causing trouble so the legitimate protesters will just leave.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Because by shooting peaceful people up THEY STOPPED RIOTS in their beginning obviously :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Frosku#5874
David Dorn tried, looters killed him.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Serenity#9645
yes get out of the area of violence and denouce the bad people!


[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Frosku#5874
If you're protesting and people start throwing bricks or molotov and you let them stand behind you, you're an idiot.


[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
they wont help your cause if you stick around well they break stuff


[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the funny thing is, there *is* footage of exactly that. Some guy tried to start something at a BLM protest, the protest organizer literally ground the protest to a halt to call him out and ask the crowd if anyone there was planning anything violent

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[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Frosku#5874
You can protest somewhere the violent morons aren't.


[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obviously that's not what's happening. Riots aren't happening *right next to* the peaceful demonstrations in such a cut-and-dry way. Many peaceful protesters have even shown up to clean up communities damaged *by* the rioting.


[26-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If they start damaging property, using that wooden sign for something other then protesting.


[26-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Pontology#1010
I saw that video, good stuff.


[26-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Serenity#9645
@WingbeatPony thats great we need more of that!


[26-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
once again, this is all predicated on the assumption the police are attempting to stop looting/burning, and there's no evidence they've been doing so


[26-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, that was some of the best footage @WingbeatPony, the protestors kicking the rioters asses should happen more.


[26-Jul-20 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And there is more of that, but the thing is even if 99% of it is stopped that 1% can and has been used as an excuse to call in the riot police. And that percentage is inflated just 'cause I don't feel like dealing with decimals


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[26-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
what the police have been shown doing innumerable times these past couple months is attacking peaceful protests for seemingly no reason other than being there


[26-Jul-20 07:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[26-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Exactly, the feds are using the riots as an *excuse* to over-police the legitimate protesters. That's what I'm seeing. If they were merely stopping looters I'd be on board.


[26-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Crow#5457
god damn that song's fascist as fuck


[26-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Crow#5457
it's like an american white supremacist's version of the 14 words


[26-Jul-20 07:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's a good song though.


[26-Jul-20 07:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's supposed to sound fascist. It's meant to be the antagonists propaganda.


[26-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Pontology#1010
I didn't hear any racist lyrics


[26-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Fascist, not racist


[26-Jul-20 07:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
If by fascist you mean militant, then yeah, very much so.


[26-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
though the two obviously have overlap

And yeah, militant's a better word


[26-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Crow#5457
fascist propaganda is very heavy into the "protect your land, shoot them first before they shoot you" shit


[26-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it works though.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
because it's not a far leap from "shoot them first" to "invade them"


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ehhhhh


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Opponent#3498
'bomb them until there's no one left to fight' was always the US motto


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
We should protect our land. Shooting first, no.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good fictional evil propaganda *should* sound positive and uplifting, yeah. Because from their point of view they're going to paint themselves as the good guys.

Like the Imperial March being played in an upbeat major key in Solo; that's how the song sounds in-universe to the Empire, who depicts themselves as the peacekeepers of the galaxy.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Pontology#1010
But if someone breaks into your home, then yes, shoot them first.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Crow#5457
the song literally says shoot first


[26-Jul-20 07:28 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[26-Jul-20 07:29 AM] Pontology#1010
yeah, I don't agree with the song.


[26-Jul-20 07:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's just a swingin' tune.


[26-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone talks a big game until the utilities are cut and people have no medicine


[26-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These are the people that couldn't go two months without a haircut


[26-Jul-20 07:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Who?


[26-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tfw had no haircut for 2 years


[26-Jul-20 07:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think the covid protests showed a clear difference in police temperament. People openly waved rifles around, got in cops' faces and shouted at them and weren't even *touched.*

Meanwhile peaceful BLM protesters are being lumped in with rioters left and right.


[26-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The conservative coastal elite wants a second American civil war like this when in fact it would be a bunch of mini Wacos at best


[26-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And more likely, just minor insurgency in rural areas.


[26-Jul-20 07:32 AM] Pontology#1010
Wow.

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[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Pontology#1010
Vandalizing abolitionists, biggest brain


[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean


[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
To be fair, there wasn't very much rioting in the covid protests.
Guns were waved, but no shops were burned/looted.


[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Technically, most abolitionists didn't want racial equality.


[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Lincoln made jokes about it.


[26-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but my point is that people who are *not* rioting are getting treated like the people who are.


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Opponent#3498
> The conservative coastal elite wants a second American civil war like this when in fact it would be a bunch of mini Wacos at best
tfw expecting conventional warfare in the age of post-truth and media dominance.


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that will be effective for the twelve hours where the phone networks and Internet aren't cut off


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, I think you have a civil war of sorts going on for years now.


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Pontology#1010
Baldwin was a really good guy.


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, but a difference is that the covid protests had no rioting at all.
Also they dissolved on their own after a couple days.


[26-Jul-20 07:34 AM] Opponent#3498
it will simply never start Its. Simple as.


[26-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
> A statue of Baldwin was first erected in Philadelphia in 1906, and moved in front of Philadelphia City Hall in 1936. In late May 2020, it was briefly defaced with the words "colonizer" and "murderer", and was cleaned soon afterward. The incident increased interest in Baldwin's legacy, according to the president of the volunteer group Friends of Matthias Baldwin Park.


[26-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We have a sort of perpetual civil harrumph.


[26-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Crow#5457
this is clear evidence that statues don't teach history btw


[26-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Just ignorant protestors calling every historical white man a murderer and colonizer


[26-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
25% of Americans don't even believe their opponents are human.


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Statues are just expensive pidgeon outhouses.


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Crow#5457
like if there is any bit of evidence that clearly shows there is no historical value for statues, it's matthias baldwin's statue being defaced


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Pontology#1010
People with half a brain do things like google him on their phone


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Opponent#3498
@Pontology statistically it's a safe bet :wheeze:


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's no reason to take all statues down.


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Honahue#0656
part of the reason the covid protest went away is they were usually funded by some libertarian group


[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Pontology#1010
@Opponent Anti-white bigot.

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[26-Jul-20 07:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think we should take the Confederate ones off government property at least.


[26-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hot take: if the North truly ever cared enough about slavery enough to have abolitionism, it wouldn't have lasted until 1865


[26-Jul-20 07:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
Funded how? What'd they need funding for?


[26-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Put them in a private museum or whatever


[26-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
put them in museums with proper context

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[26-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But then again, Slave Power was a thing


[26-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The US was basically a slaveocracy, all real power in government had one goal, keeping slavery around


[26-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was the one track mind of the US for like 40 years


[26-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Pontology#1010
Not true at all.


[26-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do you know what the Missouri Compromise is


[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Confederacy outright listed slavery and specifically white supremacy as the cornerstone of their foundation.


[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Pontology#1010
The major feud up until the civil war was the north and south bitterly arguing over slave vs free new states, the north wanting new states to be free.


[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Compromise

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[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, that was basically the only thing that was focused on for decades


[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The land of freedom*
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[26-Jul-20 07:39 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, exactly, and if the only goal was to keep slavery alive, the north wouldn't have fought for all those states to be free.


[26-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
the north wasn't fighting to free the slaves


[26-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Pontology#1010
It was fighting to keep the spread of slavery contained as much as possible.


[26-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Crow#5457
the slaves being freed was just a side effect


[26-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It was a factor for the north.

Whereas keeping the slaves *was* the whole point for the south


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The South had absolutely nothing without slaves


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a borderline feudal economy from the 16th century


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They didn't mince words: "Our new government['s] foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man."


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a monoculture of a single crop


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No infrastructure, no communication, no processing of anything


[26-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Every cent went into producing more cotton


[26-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And thinking that the world would never ever find a better source of it


[26-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It kind of makes it hard to fight a war when you have like one plant to make cannons or bullets


[26-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The average soldier was fighting for rich peoples' right to own other people. Imagine fighting and dying for *that.*


[26-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were just temporarily embarrassed plantation owners.

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[26-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fight and die for the South and one day you'll totally have your own farm and ten slaves


[26-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In some ways, not a lot's changed between the Confederates and the modern people who idolize the Confederacy. They vehemently defend the rich who've convinced them that the real source of their troubles are those even poorer than they are.


[26-Jul-20 07:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So corporate welfare good, but unemployment/disability benefits bad.


[26-Jul-20 07:48 AM] Opponent#3498
```No infrastructure, no communication, no processing of anything
Every cent went into producing more cotton```
it did produce hillarious and instructive stories on people setting out to build firearms though, for instance.


[26-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or you know, uniforms


[26-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People just wearing whatever didn't really work on the battlefield


[26-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Funnily enough, confederate VP Alexander Stephens, who delivered the Cornerstone Speech - the whole "we're founding this country because whites are better than blacks" thing - denied he ever said that after the war. Civil War revisionism started *early*

*Denying his earlier statements that slavery was the Confederacy's cause for leaving the Union, he contended to the contrary that he thought that the war was rooted in constitutional differences*


[26-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"The Civil War wasn't about slavery" said the man who boldly declared the Civil War was about slavery.


[26-Jul-20 07:53 AM] Opponent#3498
politicians trying to walk back their words. An undying tradition.


[26-Jul-20 07:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I have so much respect when a leader goes "hey, I did say that. But I changed my mind and don't think it anymore" instead of just denying it altogether

Rarely happens though.


[26-Jul-20 07:56 AM] jlun2#8758
@Dr. Mechano unless someone does it without politically killing their careers then forget it


[26-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I have a lot of criticism for Obama, but he at least owned up to opposing gay marriage in 2008 and said "Yeah, I changed my mind. Gay marriage is fine now" instead of pretending he always supported it.


[26-Jul-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-foundation-tells-trump-to-stop-using-ex-presidents-image-2020-7

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[26-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Reagan Foundation trying to help Biden get elected


[26-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Guess that's one more to chalk up on the side of the swamp


[26-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Frosku#5874
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it

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Yes America, there is voter fraud.  These recent cases prove it.
From Frank Sinatra's hometown in Hoboken, N.J., to LA's Skid Row, dozens of mail-in, absentee and ballot box fraud cases have emerged.
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[26-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Frosku#5874
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/yale-epidemiologist-says-hydroxychloroquine-key-defeating-covid-19

I wonder why CNN et al aren't reporting on this story. You'd think "the key to defeating COVID-19" would be news.

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[26-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Frosku#5874
"In the future," Risch says in the column, "I believe this misbegotten episode regarding hydroxychloroquine will be studied by sociologists of medicine as a classic example of how extra-scientific factors overrode clear-cut medical evidence."


[26-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
At this point is it fair to consider Trump part of the very "swamp" he rails against? He's pardoned a number of crooked politicians, and has openly advocated for ignoring medical expertise and performing less testing in the name of getting better-looking numbers.

Trump can speak passionately about how much he opposes government corruption, and that's sure to emotionally sway some people, but from what I see his actions don't really back up that sentiment.


[26-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Frosku#5874
He didn't advocate for less testing... that's a horribly bad-faith interpretation of what he said. He said the reason US numbers are so high is because the US testing regimen is so good, and that the case fatality rate has dropped by 75% suggesting the issue isn't a faster spread but just more detection.


[26-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
“When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people. You’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, **‘Slow the testing down, please.’”**


[26-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Because people keep banding around this chart...

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[26-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Without the context of this one...

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[26-Jul-20 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so we should undertest to find less cases so that we don;t knwo how much it;s spread!


[26-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/25/trump-sarcastically-suggests-slowing-down-coronavirus-testing-340850

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The president’s comments add a new twist to the White House scramble to clarify his earlier messaging.
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[26-Jul-20 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump says any backfired statement is sarcasm


[26-Jul-20 03:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesnt know what the fuck sarcasm is


[26-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe because most of them are. Trump has been pretty sarcastic over the last 4 decades and suddenly gets bad faith media.


[26-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even if that was, he's still pressuring schools to reopen against all medical advice. How is he putting "America first" by basically demanding that we put hundreds of people in a single building during a pandemic?


[26-Jul-20 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Ah yes because repeating the statement of stopping testing to atleast 5 different crowds without ever once saying he;s joking, totally means he;s joking


[26-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Frosku#5874
Have you ever watched a Trump rally like, end to end?


[26-Jul-20 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, none of that is sarcasm


[26-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Frosku#5874
He jokes a lot, he's a showman, that's what he does.

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[26-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's certainly not joking about reopening schools despite that being a terrible idea.


[26-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Frosku#5874
I agree, close the public schools forever is a much better idea. Also rebate the taxes people are still paying for them and furlough the teachers without pay.


[26-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Frosku, that's... a completely different argument. We can debate the merit of public schools another time. I'm talking about *any* school - public or private - being open during this dangerous time.


[26-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Frosku#5874
Because why the fuck are we still paying for a service we can't use?


[26-Jul-20 03:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyAi-Mzu0g so this entire speech is sarcastic?

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[26-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Frosku#5874
No, that's my point though -- why are we still paying for them if we're unable to use them? Give people the money back.


[26-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The schools would still have classes, they'd just be online. That's what we did at the end of last year.


[26-Jul-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We're still using the schools though, it;s just online for now because to reopen means to spread a virus much quicker than it;s been spreading


[26-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Apparently homeschooling is at an all-time high in Google search indexes.


[26-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Frosku#5874
I think we might be seeing a huge shift in attitudes to education because of the pandemic.


[26-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure. But most parents can't do that. It isn't feasible for everyone.


[26-Jul-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of parents have to attend a job or 2 and can;t homeschool their children


[26-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Phelan#7647
@Frosku https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1278964201789194240?s=19 I saw this article a while back

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[26-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there you go.


[26-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Phelan#7647
>controversial medicine hydroxychloroquine


[26-Jul-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, fair enough


[26-Jul-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was controversial because at the time it was being touted it hadnt been tested enough


[26-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Frosku#5874
This video you linked is actually a great example.

> nuanced speech mentioning a lot of successes, off-hand comment about tests might be overrated in the context of eradicating the virus

Title:

> ZOMG TRUMP SAYS TESTS ARE OVERRATED


[26-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, but it's just funny because the media is a big part about why it's "controversial"


[26-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Frosku#5874
No mention of highest testing in the world or any of the positive points in the speech.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Frosku#5874
The press just straight up can't be trusted.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump was also a big reason as well. we shouldnt have politicians pushing an untested drug to masses of people


[26-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The headline isn't factually wrong. He did say tests are overrated. If he doesn't want the media reporting him saying dumb things he could say less dumb things.


[26-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Except that it's a 60 year old drug, and he was just trying to keep people informed about scientific progress, which is what you do when the population is scared.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Frosku#5874
@Dr. Mechano It's not factually wrong but it's an utter mischaracterization of the speech.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a 60 year old drug that had no testign on covid


[26-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Frosku#5874
It didn't have no testing on covid, it had early stage clinical trial results on covid.


[26-Jul-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
good point, early stage is still too soon to be touting it


[26-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Frosku#5874
At no point did Trump go out and say "everyone should be taking this drug", he just said "hey this is showing promise"


[26-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Frosku#5874
If a President isn't allowed to try to keep up hope in a suffering nation, what is he allowed to do?


[26-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Phelan#7647
Also, it's one of the safest drugs out there. There are cases of seizures and stuff like that, but it's pretty rare.

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[26-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Yep


[26-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Frosku#5874
At the very least its effects are well known, it's been in wide circulation for 60 years.


[26-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that, if I were a government official of any kind, I would defer to doctors and medical experts to give any kind of public statements about what medications should or shouldn't be considered. When roughly half the country trusts you as much as they do, it's important to speak responsibly and not - perhaps accidentally - spread misinformation.

More importantly, I think it's important to develop your policies based around that medical consensus. Pressuring schools to reopen right now shows a level of utter callousness to the nation's children. He's displaying recklessness, not toughness.


[26-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Phelan#7647
Looked it up and the incidence rate for serious stuff is listed "rare side effects" which, medically speaking, is about 0.01%-0.1% of people.


[26-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Frosku#5874
Not all of America is big cities -- this might come as a shock to some Democrats -- but a lot of towns have *zero* coronavirus cases and can absolutely safely open schools.


[26-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yet, Trump didn't say to make it a case-by-case thing. He said he wants all schools to reopen.


[26-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Frosku#5874
And that decision ultimately doesn't sit with Trump because it's not a federal competency.


[26-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's threatening to withhold federal funding from states that don't comply, which I'm not sure he can actually do, but he shouldn't be saying that to begin with.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I agree, some school districts *can* safely reopen and that's fine.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Frosku#5874
Meanwhile the media is trying to guilt trip parents for having the audacity to educate their kids.

https://reason.com/2020/07/24/the-media-wants-to-guilt-trip-parents-over-school-pods/

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The Media Wants To Guilt-Trip Parents Over School 'Pods'
Worried about how the latest COVID-19 workaround might exacerbate inequality? Maybe open the damned elementary schools instead.
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[26-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Phelan#7647
I remember some news orgs were saying that "only 10% of people want schools to go back to normal". Absolutely missed the forest for the trees cause that same poll also said that only 30% of people wanted schools to stay closed.


[26-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Frosku#5874
The federal govt shouldn't be funding education, period.


[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the federal government shouldnt be funding anything, it should jsut close forever


[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Frosku#5874
It's not an enumerated power of the federal government.


[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Frosku, how do poor students get educated if there's no public school? Do we just say "eh, screw 'em" and let them go without schooling?


[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Frosku#5874
Education is reserved to the states or to the people as per the 10th Amendment.


[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Phelan#7647
> the federal government shouldnt be funding anything, it should jsut close forever
@prism stryder(intexda)

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[26-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Frosku#5874
There is a difference between *federal* and *state* funding.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
state funding relies on federal funding


[26-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Frosku#5874
We have a constitution, it designates specific powers to the federal government. That is the legal limit of the federal government unless the constitution is amended.


[26-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Schools are underfunded as it is.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we leave it entirely to states to fund these things, then states themselves will have to raise local taxes to fund them


[26-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Phelan#7647
And?


[26-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Phelan#7647
Lower federal taxes and raise state taxes.


[26-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Frosku#5874
That's literally the whole point. Then people can decide on a state by state basis how much they're willing to fund.


[26-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Frosku#5874
And people who don't want to throw infinite money at public spending can move to a pro-freedom state.


[26-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Frosku#5874
SC is open y'all <3


[26-Jul-20 04:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/01/08/why-south-carolina-ranked-among-worst-states-raise-family/2500221002/

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[26-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That just sounds like we'd get wildly different standards of education.


[26-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Frosku#5874
We'd quickly see what works.


[26-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Frosku#5874
South Carolina is amazing, feel free to come live here and find out.

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[26-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
```Frosku, how do poor students get educated if there's no public school? Do we just say "eh, screw 'em" and let them go without schooling?```
poverty is a natural state of being. If they want education, they need to get a job and get money, or start a business and get money. Simple. He said it before.


[26-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Frosku#5874
Derp, because state taxation isn't a thing.


[26-Jul-20 04:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
child labor is the answer to everything clearly


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Frosku#5874
More straw men and bad faith arguments, what a surprise :3


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a fellow southerner (though a Louisianian here), I do not share your enthusiasm.


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
children shoudl work for their education int he salt mines!


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Dixie is the greatest place on Earth.


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in north carolina and it;s terrible here


[26-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Phelan#7647
The fuck are you talking about?


[26-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Frosku#5874
NC is worst carolina so ofc its terrible, move south.


[26-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Frosku#5874
That's what you get for electing Democrats.


[26-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
it's too hot and the politics are dumb

Although, my state hated the previous Republican governor enough to flip, so maybe there's hope here.


[26-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Phelan#7647
Pretty much every libertarian I know acknowledges that some government needs to exist. I very rarely run into actual an-caps.


[26-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes @Phelan but it's much easier to argue against straw men than our actual arguments.


[26-Jul-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem here is that we;re arguing from 2 different wealth brackets, you;re arguing from a place of success and a thriving business, while we;re arguing from a place of poverty and lack of resources


[26-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Frosku#5874
We're arguing about policy, not personal circumstance. You accuse us of selfishness then admit you're just arguing for policy that helps you, not the whole country.


[26-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
south carolina is amazing for you because it;s tailor made to aid wealthy people


[26-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Frosku#5874
You do realise the vast majority of education funding in the US isn't federal dollars, right?


[26-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I wouldn't say I'm poor. I'm middle class-ish. Maybe the higher end of working class, I dunno. Like, I make beans for a salary but I own a house.


[26-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't own a house so you're ahead of me there :P


[26-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you can simply buy any three on demand.


[26-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I have like $7k in the bank lol, try again


[26-Jul-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, i do. and wealthy people tend to move out of tAX zones that fund public education


[26-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
you are like Bad Faith Argument, personified. I've seen people here come to bait, but you are honestly on a new level for this channel :D


[26-Jul-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s why gated communities exist


[26-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
guess you warned us of what was coming, mentioning 10+ years of chans. That was honest.


[26-Jul-20 04:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Wealthy people do the same as everyone else -- make decisions in their own interests. If they feel like you're using them as a piggy bank, they're going to move.


[26-Jul-20 04:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Ask Sweden, a lot of their wealthy people just leave the country.


[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent If you're just going to accuse me of baiting for refusing to interact with your straw man arguments, you're not worth the time of day to argue with. Sorry I have opinions you don't like. #GetOverIt

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[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we should jsut let the wealthy leave america


[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
oh don't misunderstand, I'm not making an argument nor do I expect interaction. Merely expressing suprise.


[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe, then everywhere in America can be a poverty-infested shithole and all the hope can be gone.


[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they arent contributing to anything, really. and every time thye get asked to contribute to society they call everyone a communist

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[26-Jul-20 04:15 PM] Frosku#5874
"How dare you be successful? Leave now!"


[26-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) people just need more Ian Rand in their lives.


[26-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Frosku#5874
And that's not bait?


[26-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
she's like Jesus, but better and more cool n hip


[26-Jul-20 04:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh wait, doesn't count when you do it ofc. One rule for me, and another for thee.


[26-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't have any problem with the wealthy. My problem is that this country's set up in a way that's actively hostile to the poor and working class.

I just want to know that if I get seriously ill I won't go bankrupt. That I don't have to die of something treatable or preventable, just because I'm not rich enough to afford to live in America.


[26-Jul-20 04:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If you want to live in the society, you should be contributing to it. I'nm willing to pay higher taxes if it means better healthcare and more access to education

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[26-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it probably is, I suppose.


[26-Jul-20 04:17 PM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) I'm okay with you paying higher taxes, I can get you the address for the IRS and you can mail them as much as you want. Me? I'll pay lower taxes, thanks.


[26-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Phelan#7647
If the taxes are too high, I'd just move.

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[26-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Phelan#7647
If you want to pay extra, that's your own prerogative


[26-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Phelan#7647
Like, you literally can pay extra by sending a cheque to the treasury.


[26-Jul-20 04:18 PM] Frosku#5874
I already moved when Obama was in office, I came back when Trump put tax cuts in.


[26-Jul-20 04:19 PM] Frosku#5874
I paid fully $0 in taxes for 3 years under Obama, last year I paid $75,000 in taxes, from what I'm reading the left would rather I pay $0.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so then, why live in america at all?


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Well, $0 in US taxes, quite a bit in other countries.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
because it's the greatest country in the world, _obviously_.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
we've only heard it about 30 times for the last week :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is also an option that comes much easier to the rich. "Just moving" is an expensive and sometimes risky course of action. 

It's one that a lot of people can't easily do. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with doing it if you're able to. I'm just saying that a lot of us are more "stuck" where we are.


[26-Jul-20 04:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Baiting again? Because right now we don't have a government which is actively hostile to successful people.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Opponent#3498
why do you think I'm interacting with you again?


[26-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Phelan#7647
I've got Canadian citizenship so I can move back extremely easily and I have a relatively easy path to living in other Commonwealth nations.


[26-Jul-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that wasnt bait, that was a genuine question. if wealthy people have nothing to gain from living in america, thne why live in it?


[26-Jul-20 04:21 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent You're literally arguing in worst faith pretty much constantly. At least most of the other left-wingers here can handle some form of argument.


[26-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If I had a reliable way to get to Canada I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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[26-Jul-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same


[26-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm sorry, you lost me at 'read Ian Rand' line the second time you said it. That's where my good faith died.


[26-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Phelan#7647
Eh, Canada just has amazing PR. The PM is actively hostile to resources despite Canada being a resource based economy.


[26-Jul-20 04:22 PM] Frosku#5874
Also yes @Dr. Mechano, it is much easier for wealthy people to decide they're not going to pay oppressive tax rates. That's another reason not to instate oppressive tax rates.


[26-Jul-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d rather move to finland in all honesty


[26-Jul-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but i dont have the funds to do so


[26-Jul-20 04:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Honestly if you want a socdem paradise I'd go with Norway.


[26-Jul-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
norway sounds lovely as well


[26-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Frosku#5874
It's not somewhere I'd live but I can understand the appeal.


[26-Jul-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe new zealand


[26-Jul-20 04:24 PM] Frosku#5874
What if we could have that in America though? Socdem states and laissez-faire states without horrific swings in policy every 1-2 presidential terms?


[26-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, but Canada is probably more feasible just because it's closer, plus it's a majority English-speaking country. If I were to move to another country for better healthcare, Canada would be the most likely bet.


[26-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Frosku#5874
That's what federalism would allow for if we would let it.


[26-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Phelan#7647
It's relatively hard to move to Canada (especially compared to the US)


[26-Jul-20 04:25 PM] Frosku#5874
You could have single payer in California or whatever.


[26-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
State funds alone would not be sufficient.


[26-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not here to tell your state how it should be run, I don't think it'd be good, but that'd be up to the people who live there.


[26-Jul-20 04:26 PM] Frosku#5874
If we shifted the balance of taxation away from federal to state though, they could.


[26-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Phelan#7647
Under 10% of school funds come from the federal government.


[26-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
so instead of being memetic 'several countries under a greatcoat', your vision is to actually have it for real, multiple countries with multiple conflicting laws with a single military (and shift everything else away).


[26-Jul-20 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
that's... New.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent Not *just* military, there'd be a border force, federal agencies, regulation on inter-state commerce and the inter-state roads, but yeah you'd be looking at a very different model of the federal govt.


[26-Jul-20 04:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Not multiple countries, but allow states to have more control on what they do. Basically, more federalised than the EU, less federalised than the current US.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Frosku#5874
You'd also have protections on human rights overseen by the federal courts, which was the issue with federalism in the original US model.


[26-Jul-20 04:30 PM] Frosku#5874
States were able to say "black people aren't human" and the federal govt had to sit and watch, I'd expect equality in the eyes of the law to be subject to federal appeal in all cases.


[26-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, at least the concept of American Identity would finally die.


[26-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Frosku#5874
(and this is guaranteed by the 14th amendment)


[26-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Phelan#7647
Not really.


[26-Jul-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm morbidly curious to see this implemented.


[26-Jul-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kind of want to see this shit show


[26-Jul-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let;s go full africa and divide our states into single countries!


[26-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
uniting several countries under one banner proved just 1 step away from unfeasible. Dividing a country into bits and giving them near-absolute self-rule...


[26-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Frosku#5874
This is literally how the US was founded, it only changed because the federal government used integration as an excuse to push for more federal power.


[26-Jul-20 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
shit, you'd have to live in it, not me. Go for it.


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
(well, you'd move, but you get the idea)


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah that;s the draw back here


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm stuck here, it sounds like frosku can move as freely as he pleases


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Is what we have now working? Every 4 years we all hate each other because there's so much at stake?


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Phelan#7647
Like, some people think consider themselves Texan and American. There'd be more people considering a themselves a citizen of their state and country I bet.


[26-Jul-20 04:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we hate eachother because we;re forced to cramp into 2 parties isntead of a proper balance of multiple parties


[26-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Phelan#7647
But I don't think the American identity would die.


[26-Jul-20 04:34 PM] Frosku#5874
The "massive federal government" experiment has utterly failed, polarized us, made us stupid, made our media awful... we deserve better.


[26-Jul-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the mini parties within each party fights it;s own party for control of the main party

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[26-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>But I don't think the American identity would die.

Ban hamburger :trixdisgust: 🍔


[26-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Of course, because there's so much at stake all the time.


[26-Jul-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now conservatives control the democrats but it;s shifting as more younger people join the frey


[26-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Phelan#7647
What?


[26-Jul-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservative isnt exlusive to republicans


[26-Jul-20 04:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
obama was more or less conservative he was jsut more moderate with it


[26-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Phelan#7647
Oh, I see what you're talking about. The Democrat party has gone further left in recent years.


[26-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Obama was pretty much a centrist.


[26-Jul-20 04:37 PM] Frosku#5874
So is Trump, much as everyone hates to admit it.

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[26-Jul-20 04:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah trump is pretty nationalist


[26-Jul-20 04:38 PM] Frosku#5874
That's a different axis, but Trump hasn't really done anything particularly radical other than on Twitter.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Phelan#7647
Trump was probably the least right wing guy in 2016.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Kasich maybe less right-wing than Trump, but not by much.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Phelan#7647
He's just loud, so it makes him seem further to the right.


[26-Jul-20 04:39 PM] Frosku#5874
His rhetoric is radical, his policy is moderate for the most part.


[26-Jul-20 04:41 PM] Frosku#5874
You'd be hard-pressed to find a Trump policy that would be to the right of Dubya. Most of his radical policies (tariffs etc) are to the left of the Republican median.


[26-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Phelan#7647
Also, he hasn't started any wars so far.
First president to do so in quite a while.


[26-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Frosku#5874
He's pretty much refused to cut welfare or social security, refused to make meaningful changes to the federal budget. He's hardly this right-wing idealogue that he's painted as.


[26-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Frosku#5874
My support for Trump is not an endorsement for Trump, it is a "fuck no" on the modern Democrats.


[26-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Isn't he just a businessman accidently becoming a pre? :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Opponent#3498
most of support for Biden is a 'fuck no' on Trump :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he just axed the housing equality act


[26-Jul-20 04:46 PM] Frosku#5874
@Opponent Fully aware of that :P


[26-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Phelan#7647
Just looked it up, Trump is the first president since Ford to not invade another country.


[26-Jul-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why invade other countries when you can invade your own?


[26-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Frosku#5874
There, we've found Trump's radicalism 😂 he doesn't want to invade the world.


[26-Jul-20 04:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How about that autonomy in seattle? :twismug:


[26-Jul-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gun-control-research-concealed-carry-laws-mass-shootings-2020-7

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States with looser concealed-carry laws have higher rates of gun homicide. And higher gun-ownership rates are associated with more mass shootings.
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[26-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Frosku#5874
Correlation is not causation, though we can talk correlation if you want. :P


[26-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Marches[45]#0674
If it's simultaneously true that the places with more mass shootings have strictest gun control, then it would seem stronger gun control is associated with higher gun ownership rates. Like in Australia.


[26-Jul-20 05:00 PM] Frosku#5874
This would seem to be a good place to start.

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[26-Jul-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07418825.2020.1789693


[26-Jul-20 05:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Mass shootings seems like a very weak metric to compare when we *know* most mass shootings are copycat attacks.


[26-Jul-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
knowing they;re copycat attacks tells us nothing datawise, so much as knowing how location and laws effect these types of attacks


[26-Jul-20 05:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A lot of them are inspired by previous shootings but the researhc is to figure out what allows these shootings to happen to begin with and how gun control factors into it


[26-Jul-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s easy to point out how one shooter copied another shooter but the question is more "What gave them the ability to copy this shooter and what enabled the original shooter?"


[26-Jul-20 05:15 PM] Frosku#5874
I think a better question is "what's the best way to have less of this in future whilst not infringing on the rights of free citizens?"


[26-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Frosku#5874
Because I will fundamentally -- and I know a lot of other Americans who agree -- always accept less safety for more freedoms.


[26-Jul-20 05:19 PM] Crow#5457
ah yes, the freedom to die by gun vs the safety of not being allowed to own a gun


[26-Jul-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it stops being freedom when it starts actively harming people. there;s a difference between beign free to own a gun and being free to shoot other people


[26-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Frosku#5874
My gun has never harmed anyone, well except me when I didn't account for how much recoil it had and sprained my wrist. 😂


[26-Jul-20 05:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, but you;re not one of the people going out and shooting people with your gun


[26-Jul-20 05:20 PM] Frosku#5874
I've even left it all on its own and it's never taken a walk and shot anyone or anything.


[26-Jul-20 05:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people should also have the freedom to be safe


[26-Jul-20 05:21 PM] Frosku#5874
No, exactly, which is why I don't want anyone to take it away from me, because that would be the most likely reason I would shoot someone with it.


[26-Jul-20 05:24 PM] Frosku#5874
Tech kinda already made this irrelevant, I can print a working firearm at home so gun bans are functionally useless against criminals.


[26-Jul-20 05:24 PM] Frosku#5874
They'll just try to steal my 3D printer instead of my gun.


[26-Jul-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
anyway, the original point was what enables mass shootings to happen. Not how can we remove guns from every person int he country


[26-Jul-20 05:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, criminals will always exist. It's not about removign them entirely and more about making it less likely to happen.


[26-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Easy access enables these.


[26-Jul-20 05:25 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean there's a lot of factors there. Mass shootings generally are either familial or public/school shootings and I don't think those should really be lumped together.


[26-Jul-20 05:26 PM] Frosku#5874
It's likely that different policies would affect those things.


[26-Jul-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one issue is lack of universal gun regulation. If a teenager can;t buy a gun in one state, they can just drive to a different state and buy one there.


[26-Jul-20 05:27 PM] Frosku#5874
As an American you're about 20x more likely to get killed by a handgun than a rifle, yet all the legislation is against rifles, which is a bit baffling.


[26-Jul-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is also a valid factor. and age groups do effect availability of guns as well


[26-Jul-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

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Guns used in mass shootings 1982-2019 | Statista
What guns are used in mass shootings? This statistic shows the type of guns used in mass shootings in the US up to August 2019. A total of 55 rifles have been used in 47 mass shootings between 1982 and August 2019.
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[26-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Opponent#3498
black military-style assault rifles make for a much better scaremonger image is why.


[26-Jul-20 05:30 PM] Frosku#5874
I guess, but they're functionally identical to the benign looking hunting rifles.


[26-Jul-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the type of gun is also dependant on how you want to execute a shooting


[26-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Frosku#5874
I can stick a 200rd drum on a hunting rifle, it's going to be every bit as deadly as a black scary rifle.


[26-Jul-20 05:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you have a legal requirement to install a safe for a gun?


[26-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Frosku#5874
Not in SC


[26-Jul-20 05:32 PM] Frosku#5874
I would if I had children, regardless


[26-Jul-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you looking for a mass sniping? rapidfire crowd murder? going for a single target and eliminating obstacles?


[26-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's problem no 1. any kid can take a gun from an unsecure location.


[26-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Frosku#5874
Rapid fire rifles aren't used in mass shootings, automatic rifles are generally only owned by collectors.


[26-Jul-20 05:33 PM] Frosku#5874
They're incredibly expensive.


[26-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
crowd murderers use explosives usually
much easier than guns


[26-Jul-20 05:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is also a good point


[26-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Frosku#5874
Trucks are pretty effective too


[26-Jul-20 05:34 PM] Frosku#5874
As we've seen recently in not only the US but Europe too.


[26-Jul-20 05:35 PM] Frosku#5874
If you want to stop people killing each other I think the answer lies more in addressing issues in the culture than availability of weapons.


[26-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I dont see suicide bombers or truck running over as often... Because it is much harder than to get dad's gun.


[26-Jul-20 05:37 PM] Phelan#7647
It's surprisingly simple to turn a standard firearm into an (actual) automatic, but crimes committed with them extremely rare.


[26-Jul-20 05:38 PM] Phelan#7647
Like, as in, I could make one myself with stuff I just have in my house.


[26-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Are you talking about bump stocks?


[26-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Phelan#7647
Nope, auto sears


[26-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Opponent#3498
bottom tier shit like SKS is notorious for going full auto on it's own...


[26-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Frosku#5874
Because bump stocks severely reduce accuracy. They're really not a 'good' option unless you just want to have fun.


[26-Jul-20 05:39 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yeah.


[26-Jul-20 05:40 PM] Phelan#7647
I was talking about something like this, a drop in autosear made from a coat hanger.

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[26-Jul-20 05:41 PM] Frosku#5874
It would help if politicians made some effort to understand firearms before writing legislation.


[26-Jul-20 05:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's another key issue, we have tons of politicians writing legislation on topics thye know nothing about


[26-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Things like a pistol grip are considered to make a weapon an "assault rifle" -- pistol grips are primarily useful to smaller framed people and do not affect the lethality of the weapon, period.


[26-Jul-20 05:42 PM] Frosku#5874
All a ban on pistol grips does really is harm women and small men's ability to defend themselves and their families.


[26-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Phelan#7647
My country banned a coffee cause they thought it was a gun.

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[26-Jul-20 05:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 05:51 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
My dick is a gun


[26-Jul-20 05:51 PM] Frosku#5874
My balls are a high capacity magazine


[26-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Don't flatter yourself


[26-Jul-20 06:00 PM] jlun2#8758
.qa @Frosku My balls are a high capacity magazine


[26-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Frosku**:  My balls are a high capacity magazine).


[26-Jul-20 06:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sosmol:


[26-Jul-20 06:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[26-Jul-20 06:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Taiwan No.1!


[26-Jul-20 06:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:yay: :yay: :yay:


[26-Jul-20 06:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/509062-mnuchin-it-wouldnt-be-fair-to-use-taxpayer-dollars-to-pay-more

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Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin took a hard line Sunday against the $600 increase in unemployment benefits that was a part of the last coronavirus relief measure, saying, “It just wouldn’t be fair to use taxpayer dollars to pay more people to si
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[26-Jul-20 06:25 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
people with no jobs pay no taxes amirite :smugset:


[26-Jul-20 06:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"it wouldnt be fair to use taxes to support the tax payers paying taxes to fund unemployment"


[26-Jul-20 06:26 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/509022-cdc-investigating-salmonella-outbreak-in-23-states

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CDC investigating salmonella outbreak in 23 states
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is investigating an outbreak of salmonella across 23 states, with reports of hundreds of people being sickened.
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[26-Jul-20 06:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[26-Jul-20 06:29 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Zero fatality so far, probably just a harmless common cold


[26-Jul-20 06:32 PM] Frosku#5874
https://townhall.com/columnists/tomtradup/2020/07/26/msnbc-the-smearmachine-of-us-media-n2573121

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MSNBC: The Smear-machine of US Media
We are now inside the 100-day window until the presidential election on November 3rd.  But the outcome of the vote is increasingly deemed inevitable by hysterical media types: every poll,
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[26-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Frosku#5874
> Although their network colleagues (which is actually an insult to compare any actual network to this 24/7 Bundt meeting of the airwaves) are generally seen as leaning liberal (CNN) or conservative (FOX News Channel or the FOX Business Network anchored by the awesome Lou Dobbs) MSNBC is in a class all by itself as the most biased, unfair, one-sided and comically pathetic gathering place for a ragtag band of self-aggrandizing “broadcasters” in U.S. history.


[26-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
low-key praise of CNN? Fake news no longer? huh.


[26-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
inb4 CNN starts covering Trump favourably all of a sudden.


[26-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean CNN is definitely still fake news, just not quite to the MSNBC level


[26-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Being merely technically correct and frustrating you for it doesn't make it fake.


[26-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Frosku#5874
Completely skewing coverage to paint a false narrative makes it fake.


[26-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what I've found most people call fake, when something is technically correct in the way it is worded, but deceptive


[26-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Deceptive does not mean fake.


[26-Jul-20 06:40 PM] Frosku#5874
At this point journalists are about as trustworthy as politicians, which doesn't bode well for a free state.


[26-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Frosku#5874
The idea is that the journalists are supposed to hold the politicians to account, not act as their PR wing.


[26-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, calling them the enemy of the state is harmful to a free state.


[26-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We need a journalist to be president.


[26-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Frosku#5874
If it quacks like a duck


[26-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Making you mad by being technically correct doesn't make the news fake.


[26-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People absolutely detest when things are "technically correct"


[26-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
"Fake news" isn't a technical term, it's a general sentiment about a media which paints a *narrative* rather than providing *the news* (whilst claiming to do the latter).


[26-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who even watches the Boomer Box for news though


[26-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Frosku#5874
A lot of people, evidently.


[26-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Boomers, a gen who had their minds turned to mush by it


[26-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not into the whole "generation war" thing, just another stupid line to divide people by... as if we're not divided enough already.


[26-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not a stupid line, generations grow up differently and it affects how people see things


[26-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, and assuming that because people see things differently that their brains got turned to mush is divisive and utterly arrogant.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm a millennial, I've had a lot more intelligent political conversations with boomers than with other people my age.


[26-Jul-20 06:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Because people see things differently"
You're out of the loop with what boomers believe, don't you?


[26-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that the NPC meme originally was about boomers


[26-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
I tend to get shrieked at and strawmanned less.


[26-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they don't actually see you as an equal.


[26-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Frosku#5874
Reminder that the NPC meme was originally made by groypers


[26-Jul-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Consider yourself lucky, then, the majority of boomers i know are propagandistic, manichaeistic and theatrical to the bone when it comes to politics


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well, you believe what they believe. Ian Rand, America First, etc


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Theatrics are a main part of boomers, bc they grew up with TV and a lot of movies


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Frosku#5874
Sounds like Millennials as well tbh (propagandistic and theatrical about politics).


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it's different for others. And older people tend to be far less accepting of opposing ideas.


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of them think they're in one, and are the star of the show


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean they don't tend to agree with me on social issues, like at all.


[26-Jul-20 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I had to block my aunt because she kept sending me right-wing christian propaganda every single fucking day


[26-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Frosku#5874
Me: "I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana repositories with AR-15s"
Most boomers: "Uh, I like married, and AR-15s"


[26-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
frosku is a boomer now

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[26-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Frosku#5874
But I digress


[26-Jul-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Try being a communist or even a social democrat around them, then


[26-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Try being libertarian or conservative around SJW millennials :P


[26-Jul-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, you might find an audience for that in /pol/ or so


[26-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Just... don't tell them where you work. My advice.


[26-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The big thing with boomers is that generally as a generation they lack the ability to discern things in the media they watch


[26-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They just believe everything


[26-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Well yeah, they didn't grow up with the media feeding them utter garbage so they assume it's still somewhat trustworthy.


[26-Jul-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[26-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Frosku#5874
We grew up knowing journalists are dishonest fucks which makes it a bit easier to read for facts.


[26-Jul-20 06:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which makes boomers instead trust journalists that agree with their mediocre conservative ideology


[26-Jul-20 06:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every single "systemic hatred" they claim to have towards "the media" melts away almost every moment they turn on their TVs


[26-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Frosku#5874
Tucker "Man of the People" Carlson? 😂


[26-Jul-20 06:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They are incapable of discerning general patterns of political power -- their thing is tribalism


[26-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tucker is just the coastal elite who convinces rubes in flyover states that he's one of them and "no, honest I hate being rich"


[26-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
ofc Tucker is elite


[26-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Frosku#5874
He's the heir to a massive corporate empire


[26-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Tucker is the kind of conservative coastal elite to idolize farmers but have no idea what a modern farmer is like


[26-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Owned by Big Ag and with an expensive ag-science degree.


[26-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Who probably doesn't even live on a farm.


[26-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't dislike Tucker but anyone who thinks he's an everyman... it's like Trump. He's just not.


[26-Jul-20 06:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Aren't most hand workers in modern US farms actually wage laborers?


[26-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Most of Texas' farmland is owned by rich Floridian families


[26-Jul-20 06:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I heard immigrants working in farms for a wage make up a significant ammount of people


[26-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Frosku#5874
I still don't think there's any discernable difference in that regard between boomers and SJWs, except that boomers tend to be more tolerant of views they don't agree with


[26-Jul-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
SJWs/far right/millennials in general are less tolerant of opposition because of decades of neolib/con shit that no one liked


[26-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Frosku#5874
They'll be rude to you about them, but generally they're not as willing to try to ban you from saying them or get you fired for them


[26-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And idolizing not rocking the boat, or "I have friends of other ideologies"


[26-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People are sick of that now. They _want_ to hate other people. They _want_ to be extremists. No one ever asked for neoliberalism or neoconservativism


[26-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People detest compromise and people telling them to calm down.


[26-Jul-20 07:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People have wanted for _decades_ to be able to effectively cancel someone but were held back by lack of tech and "civility"


[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://contexts.org/articles/stemming-the-exploitation-of-immigrant-farm-labor/
Apparently 20% or farmworkers in the US are documented immigrants, 50% undocumented, and 30% born in the US proper

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[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea of wanting to destroy someone for disagreeing with you is more common than you think. People WANT to do it.


[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Frosku#5874
I think you can disagree with someone without treating them like garbage, it's not that hard.


[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People don't want that.


[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Frosku#5874
And yes, neocon/neolib garbage is the last thing we need, and it's exactly what Biden wants to take us back to.


[26-Jul-20 07:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People want "Disagree with me, fuck you"


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
From a population of around three million farmworkers


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People want to be awful to others


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah, evidently. We can see that every day on Twitter.


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
i honestly had more aggression from youngsters than boomers


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah but the thing is people _like_ this


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This is how society has always wanted to be


[26-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Frosku#5874
Most of us really don't like this, we just think it makes them look small-minded and stupid.


[26-Jul-20 07:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, they are quite small-minded when it comes to political issues, for sure


[26-Jul-20 07:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Generally i don't like individual discourse and debate on the Ben Shapiro style tbh. I much rather prefer collective consciousness -- it obviously has much more of a possibility for impact than an inconsistent blob of citizens acting on their own


[26-Jul-20 07:14 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't like collectivism at all because it discourages actual progress and actual interesting ideas. Everyone just wants to conform to the groupthink.


[26-Jul-20 07:15 PM] Frosku#5874
That's the biggest issue with SJWs: they don't think.


[26-Jul-20 07:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, this is generational rather than tied to ideology.


[26-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Millennials and Zoomers don't like the "j-just get along and everything is fine :)" stuff they were told as kids


[26-Jul-20 07:18 PM] jlun2#8758
> Everyone just wants to conform to the groupthink.
including so called individualists lol :wheeze:


[26-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They _want_ discontent, hatred, and rage


[26-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People want to be mad. People are sick of civility.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Frosku#5874
It's accelerationism, plain and simple.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And I can see it, people arguing where civility ever got us


[26-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Weimar II. If they want a civil war, I guess that's their prerogative.


[26-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Weimar Republic was one of the best places to live in the Interwar period once the inflation died down.


[26-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Frosku#5874
Y-yeah, that's why people decided to vote in Nazis, because they were *so* content with the Weimar Republic.


[26-Jul-20 07:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Hitler basically threaten Hindenberg to make him chancellor or bad things would happen


[26-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
individualism and individuality are not the same things


[26-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Nazis burn down the Reichstag and blame the KPD


[26-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
your individuality doesn't stop existing just because you exist in a collectivist society


[26-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Frosku#5874
The treaty of Versailles was considered one of the worst decisions ever made in German history, and that was the Weimar Republic.


[26-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Germany deserved it.


[26-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Frosku#5874
And it pretty much created Nazis


[26-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They deserved worse, they should have been split up.


[26-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem with Versailles is it was a middle ground that didn't punish Germany enough _or_ keep it from growing again


[26-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijYEYzAQu0

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[26-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem was never "It punished Germany"


[26-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem was with it being neither a wholly revenge based thing, or a rehabilitative thing


[26-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If they had say, split up Germany and divided it among neighboring countries, then it would have been effective revenge


[26-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is what should have been done, and they learned that after WWII


[26-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Frosku#5874
If you think that's how to deal with issues, then you've learned nothing from history.


[26-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Splitting up Germany after WWII worked just fine.


[26-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Frosku#5874
Unless you lived in East Germany, sure.


[26-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal was protection of Europe, not protection of Germans.


[26-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Germans were going to be a sacrificial lamb in any NATO-Warsaw Pact war, both sides knew this.


[26-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In fact, they preferred it. Better Berlin and Bonn get nuked than Paris or Moscow or London


[26-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah and it ended up exacerbating negative feelings between the west and the USSR to the point of being on the verge of nuclear oblivion.


[26-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the ideal for both sides was "lol thanks for taking the nukes satellite states"


[26-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Frosku#5874
No one was worried in the cold war that Russia might nuke Berlin.


[26-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If war broke out, it was preferable to nuking DC or something\


[26-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Frosku#5874
DC would have been hit long before the completely harmless West Germany.


[26-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Frosku#5874
The Russians didn't put up anti-German propaganda in the 1970s, they put up anti-American propaganda.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Frosku#5874
The enemy was the US, and to a lesser degree France and Britain, not Germany.


[26-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Crow#5457
the USSR and US wanted to avoid war at all costs, they had to sabre rattle for the people at home to maintain legitimacy, but they really did go out of their way to avoid each other as much as possible


[26-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russians didn't _really_ want to nuke DC, b/c that means Moscow gets nuked


[26-Jul-20 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They would have nuked Berlin and then expected like, Perm or something to be nuked.


[26-Jul-20 07:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
or St. Petersburg


[26-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its hard to nuke russia


[26-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
It's hard to nuke anywhere that has nukes because the chain reaction would be a nuclear holocaust.


[26-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Frosku#5874
I very much doubt they'd've nuked Berlin when half of Berlin was on their side of the wall.


[26-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Frosku#5874
You can still see where the Berlin wall was because of the different lightbulbs that both sides of the city used when it was split.


[26-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Frosku#5874

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[26-Jul-20 07:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Anyway, I think your depiction of the Weimar Republic as a utopia is at odds with the reality most Germans experienced there.


[26-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Frosku#5874
Or we probably wouldn't have seen the rise of a populist authoritarian party which was completely outside the overton window from 2.8% of the vote to 40+%.


[26-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Please look into how Hitler actually got into power, and what the Enabling Acts were.


[26-Jul-20 07:46 PM] Frosku#5874
Right, I know how Hitler got into power, but the NSDAP were not unpopular at the time. They were picking up the largest vote share long before they took dictatorial control.


[26-Jul-20 07:47 PM] Frosku#5874
This was a bad election for the NSDAP, the one that prompted Hitler to sieze power through undemocratic means.

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[26-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Frosku#5874
That's before the Enabling Act, or Operation Hummingbird.


[26-Jul-20 08:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They were the largest party, but never a majority


[26-Jul-20 08:01 PM] Frosku#5874
They didn't need a majority, they had public legitimacy from the democratic results and a private army that could threaten the national army.


[26-Jul-20 08:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
`After the election, Papen urged Hindenburg to continue to govern by emergency decree. However, on 3 December, he was replaced by Defence Minister Kurt von Schleicher, who held talks with the left wing of the Nazi Party led by Gregor Strasser in an attempt at a Third Position (Querfront) strategy. The plans failed when Hitler disempowered Strasser and approached Papen for coalition talks. Papen obtained Hindenburg's consent to form the Hitler Cabinet on 30 January 1933. `


[26-Jul-20 08:08 PM] Frosku#5874
The Strasser/Rohm wing of the party got completely neutered by Hitler, yes.


[26-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://hbr.org/2017/05/research-how-you-feel-about-individualism-is-influenced-by-your-social-class

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[26-Jul-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/26/895228366/trumps-trying-to-appeal-to-real-housewives-and-white-suburbs-but-they-re-declini

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President Trump is down in the polls among suburban voters. He's using fear to try to win them back, but his view of the suburbs seems out of date, as they've grown more diverse in recent years.
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[26-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
White suburban women have absolutely gone left in recent years.


[26-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow The interesting part of this article is that it seems that the lower classes are self-sabotaging to some degree, by not teaching their children the importance of individualism.


[26-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Maybe we can correct that in schooling, to give them a better chance?


[26-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
individualism doesn't work when you're in poverty


[26-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
which is the point of the article


[26-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Frosku#5874
On the contrary, individualism is the *only* thing that works to get yourself out of poverty.

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[26-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Pontology#1010
Why are there still riots going on. I was just listening to NPR and they're talking about how there were riots in Portland and Seattle last night, complete with literal explosives being thrown.


[26-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Frosku#5874
Only a man who realizes he commands his own destiny will command his own destiny.


[26-Jul-20 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder if feds invading has something to do with that


[26-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Pontology#1010
>invading
Literally no-one says what they're doing is unconstitutional or illegal, because it isn't


[26-Jul-20 08:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt have to be illegal to count as an invasion


[26-Jul-20 08:14 PM] Pontology#1010
They're there to prevent the riots, like what's happening. In theory at least.


[26-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Pontology#1010
Ok neo-confederate who wants state separatism from the federal government.


[26-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Frosku#5874
These same leftists will tell you without a hint of irony that any attempt at secession should be met with federal military force.


[26-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
uhhh, literally everyone has been saying what they're doing is unconstitutional


[26-Jul-20 08:15 PM] Pontology#1010
@Frosku hivemind


[26-Jul-20 08:15 PM] wren#0114
protecting the federal courthouse?


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Frosku#5874
"You can use federal power to enforce my ideas, but not to protect federal property."


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Pontology#1010
Exactly, NPR was saying they were there to protect the federal courthouse, which rioters tried to deface.


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Frosku#5874
They didn't *try*.


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] wren#0114
they're trying to burn it down


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
proof?


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Frosku#5874
It's been defaced


[26-Jul-20 08:16 PM] Pontology#1010
NPR on the news this morning.


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
burning it down, everyone knows it's been defaced


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
grafitti doesnt exactly warrant federal intervention


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean would them trying to burn it down surprise you?


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] wren#0114
I have to find the vid


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
tbh at this point I can understand why they would want to burn it down, the federal police have been brutalizing people without jurisdiction for about a week now


[26-Jul-20 08:17 PM] wren#0114
unacceptable


[26-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
The federal police have jurisdiction on federal property


[26-Jul-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at most grafitti is a community service charge


[26-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Frosku#5874
That's why the TSA are allowed to accost you at airports.


[26-Jul-20 08:18 PM] Pontology#1010
Imagine condoning arson.


[26-Jul-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i said grafiti, not arson


[26-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
they're pushing people out of federal property and then beating/arresting them


[26-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Imagine having to condone property destruction to support the majority of people who share your ideology.


[26-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
and I never condoned it, I just said I understood why they would escalate


[26-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
because the feds escalated first


[26-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Frosku#5874
How much damage have ancaps/libertarians (who actually oppose the federal govt on principle and not just because orange man bad) done to federal property in the last 4 years?


[26-Jul-20 08:20 PM] wren#0114
this is the closest I have on hand. I seen the vid of someone fanning a small fire outside the wall of the courthouse a couple days ago, but it looks like I didn't save it to the right folder and can't find it quicklyhttps://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1286197577411465217

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[26-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Pontology#1010
Also, this is funny. This is exactly what I predicted would come of Minneapolis pledging to "abolish the police". Literally just changing the name and some restructuring. Give a warm welcome to the re-branded "public safety officers" or whatever they rename them.

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[26-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Because even far-left lawmakers realise that abolishing the police is a fucking retarded idea.


[26-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Pontology#1010
yes


[26-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Frosku#5874
Especially in cities which already have rampant gang crime.


[26-Jul-20 08:21 PM] Frosku#5874
The gangs will just take over as the new 'police' as the mafia have in southern Italy, and enforce their idea of mob justice.


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Frosku#5874
Except I can't imagine street gangs being like mafia organizations (which largely stick to extortion) when enforcing their 'law'.


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
but there isn't actually any evidence that protesters are trying to outright burn down the federal courthouse (burning plywood outside isn't going to harm a concrete building)


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] wren#0114
I hope they aren't then


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean they've burned down everything else they've come upon, why not a federal courthouse?


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
prove it


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] Pontology#1010
"Everything else" is of course an exaggeration, but there has been a _lot_ of arson.


[26-Jul-20 08:23 PM] wren#0114
:kirin:


[26-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Frosku#5874
Prove what? Walk through the city center of Minneapolis.


[26-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Crow#5457
we're talking about portland


[26-Jul-20 08:24 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/protestors-set-fire-to-minneapolis-police-precinct-as-trump-attacks-uprising-on-twitter

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Protesters set fire to Minneapolis police precinct as Trump attacks...
Late Thursday, President Donald Trump tweeted “Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts,” he said on Twitter.
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[26-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Frosku#5874
https://flixwor.com/three-federal-officers-permanently-blinded-during-portland-riots/
Oh, these delightful peaceful protestors?

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Antifa members using lasers have permanently blinded three federal officers during the riots in Portland, Oregon.  The Pacific Northwest City has been rocked by riots for over fifty days. Protests that began after the death of George Floyd quickly turned in riots after local e...
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[26-Jul-20 08:25 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-arrests-18-portland-alleged-property-damage-assaults-on-police

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18 arrested in Portland for alleged arson, property damage, assault...
The Justice Department on Friday announced that it has arrested 18 people on federal charges for their roles in riots and protests that have raged for weeks near a federal courthouse in Portland.
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[26-Jul-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/24/feds-arrest-27-on-alleged-arson-assault-vandalism-/

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At least 27 suspects have been arrested this week by federal authorities for alleged criminal activity stemming from the protest mayhem in Portland, Oregon.
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[26-Jul-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
portland ain't about blm anymore


[26-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Frosku#5874
> “These individuals carried lasers, baseball bats, explosive fireworks, metal pipes, glass bottles, accelerants, and other weapons all targeting federal facilities and federal law enforcement,” Wolf stated. “And yet the city of Portland takes little to no action.”


[26-Jul-20 08:26 PM] Frosku#5874
Yeah I can't see why federal force might be called for in Portland?


[26-Jul-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
it's about antifa and anarchists who saw this as an opportunity


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Frosku#5874
Get snipers on roofs, find the people with those lasers, do the human race a favor.


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] wren#0114
wew


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] wren#0114
or give the officers eye protection


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah sniping people will work wonderfully to calm the riots


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] Frosku#5874
AFAIK there's no eye protection that will work against those high powered lasers.


[26-Jul-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no way that can backfire


[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
the fascist solution to opposition is to shoot it


[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
so it's not surprising


[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Frosku#5874
Let them not be calm, send in the military, deal with the antifa issue for good.


[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/07/24/white-house-3-federal-officers-likely-permanently-blinded-by-portland-protesters/

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Violent clashes between federal officers and protesters have resulted in injuries on both sides.
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[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
> According to the Freedom of Press Foundation, feds have reportedly injured at least 30 journalists since arriving in Portland, and last week, a protester was shot in the head with impact munition, suffering a fractured skull.


[26-Jul-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just nuke portland, it;s lived long enough


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
so this blinding thing is coming on the heels of the feds attacking first...


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
maybe they shouldn't have escalated


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Frosku#5874
That protestor who was hit by the canister was an antifa terrorist.


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prove it


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
prove it or you're muted


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looking at all damage, that's an eye for eye situation. No puns intended.


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] wren#0114
this isn't comparable. the lasers are intentionally causing blindness out of spite and pettiness. the cops firing canisters of tear gas aren't intended to do this


[26-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Pontology#1010

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[26-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Better yet, include Oregon and Washington.


[26-Jul-20 08:30 PM] Frosku#5874
Muting opposition? Wew. I wouldn't be that surprised by that abuse of power tbh.
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[26-Jul-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police have been shooting rubber bullets at protestors eyes for months now


[26-Jul-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/07/24/rubber-bullets-less-lethal-weapons-victims-police-protesters-decades/5410519002/

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[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
you can literally see in the video that they shot the gas canister first


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so he;s a terrorist for throwign their weapon bakc at them?


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
defending yourself is not considered an act of terrorism


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Frosku#5874
I mean where else would it come from?


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] Crow#5457
only fascists think that way


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] wren#0114
tear gas is fascist?


[26-Jul-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tear gas is meant to harm people


[26-Jul-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
tear gas is meant to deter people


[26-Jul-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by harming them


[26-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Frosku#5874
@wren Since you're allowed to argue without being threatened with a mute for disagreeing, I'll leave this one to you. Crow has been going after me for days.


[26-Jul-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
ehh, I need to go eat


[26-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Serenity#9645
ive been tear gassed over 10 times, its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] wren#0114
I trained with CS annually. It's unpleasant but it's not harmful or violence


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
I've been having a go at you because you keep making unprovable claims, then either deflecting or moving the goalposts when I try to get you to prove shit


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Serenity#9645
like yeah its hard to breathe and you cough and it stings your eyes, but after a bout of hour or 2 you dont really feel anything, just definately take a shower and change clothes at your earliest convienence


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] wren#0114
more accurately, it's a level of escalation that is not harmful physical violence


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Frosku#5874
I've been tear gassed, the self-defense against tear gas is to cover your eyes.


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention the strawmans and the false dilemmas


[26-Jul-20 08:33 PM] Monchy#8512
Most protestors getting hit with bean bags and rubber bullets are knowingly putting themselves in a dangerous situation. The cops have to be there to maintain peace and prevent looting. It's hard to have the same sympathy for the protestors as the cops being attacked with lasers that would be against war treaties.


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
people in the US have a right to protest, it's literally in the constitution


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
the police are creating the "dangerous situations"


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] wren#0114
but not the right to destroy federal/private property


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Frosku#5874
@Crow I'm willing to debate completely outnumbered, and I'm willing to provide evidence for what I say, but if you're going to mute me for opposing the echo chamber whilst allowing blatant trolling on the other side, that's an abuse of power and we both know it.


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you dont want the large crowd of people being violent towards you as "peace keepers" thne stop aggressing upon them and fueling the violence


[26-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
it's the fallacies you're being muted for, not having opposing views


[26-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Pontology#1010
I think the fundamental rift is that you think police are using tear gas on peaceful protestors. Others don't think the evidence shows that, maybe a couple rule-breaking exceptions aside.


[26-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Frosku#5874
Because I haven't seen you threaten *one* person on the left with a mute for fallacies and bad-faith arguments. And they've been rampant.


[26-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Crow#5457
link one


[26-Jul-20 08:35 PM] wren#0114
if and when police are unecessarily escalating on peaceful protestors, I am definitely against it. All I'm saying is that portland is not that anymore, and I have no qualms with the restrained escalation that the feds are needing to do to maintain the federal building

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[26-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Frosku#5874
OK


[26-Jul-20 08:36 PM] Crow#5457
and you still haven't proven that the person who TOSSED the canister was a terrorist for doing so


[26-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
> @prism stryder(intexda) people just need more Ian Rand in their lives.
@Opponent 
> she's like Jesus, but better and more cool n hip
@Opponent 
> ```Frosku, how do poor students get educated if there's no public school? Do we just say "eh, screw 'em" and let them go without schooling?```
> poverty is a natural state of being. If they want education, they need to get a job and get money, or start a business and get money. Simple. He said it before.
@Opponent


[26-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
There's 3 complete straw men/bait posts from one person.


[26-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Frosku#5874
Within less than an hour of each other.


[26-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
the first two aren't strawmans, and what did you say that he was strawmanning in the third one?


[26-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Frosku#5874
I definitely didn't say that children should get jobs or start businesses.


[26-Jul-20 08:40 PM] Frosku#5874
I think what I said was "rebate the taxes people are paying for schools that aren't even open"


[26-Jul-20 08:41 PM] Frosku#5874
Also, how do you want me to prove that someone is a member of a memberless organization? He was protesting with antifa, antifa is a designated terrorist organization.


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
@wren, federal intervention has to be specifically requested by the state before federal officers can take on the role of local police


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Pontology#1010
I was in Berkeley when this happened. Fortunately, I wasn't among those they attacked https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] wren#0114
are they taking on the role of local police?


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
the feds just moving in unilaterally is illegal and unconstitutional


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
yes


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Pontology#1010
But I watched from my apartment window as they smashed windows and set arson


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] wren#0114
they are in and around the federal building as far as I know


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Frosku#5874
Feds are allowed to move in to protect federal property, though. The federal courthouse is federal property.


[26-Jul-20 08:42 PM] Pontology#1010
Went out the next day to see the wreckage and burnt tree stump.


[26-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Serenity#9645
@Crow source?


[26-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Frosku#5874
From my understanding they aren't leaving the area of the federal courthouse.


[26-Jul-20 08:44 PM] Pontology#1010
That was over Ben Shapiro speaking, that antifa riot.


[26-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Frosku#5874
Oh yeah, Ben Shapiro who antifa protested for being a "Nazi"...


[26-Jul-20 08:45 PM] Frosku#5874
You'd think the surname would give them a hint.


[26-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Frosku#5874
If not, you'd think the yarmulke might do it.


[26-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Pontology#1010
Antifa has been rotten from its beginning, ever since it was founded by a militant self-described Stalinist and they declared the Social Democratic Party (a left-wing party) to be "fascists".


[26-Jul-20 08:46 PM] Pontology#1010
In 1932.


[26-Jul-20 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Social democrats did crush working class movements back in the early 20th century tho so that course of action might just be reciprocated feeling


[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Never heard of Rosa Luxemburg's murder?


[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Frosku#5874
Antifa has nothing to do with fascism and everything to do with Maoism. A good example of a fairly long-running trend of very harmful groups giving themselves harmless or agreeable names (you see it on the right too -- Patriots, Proud Boys, etc).

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[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maoism? What?


[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Pontology#1010
Oh it's our resident self-described communist, of course he'd sympathize with the stalinist origins of Antifa and their attacking social democrats as "fascists"


[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] Crow#5457
once again, there's the media claiming "antifa" with no proof


[26-Jul-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I hate stalinists lol


[26-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
they keep saying "antifa protesters" "violent antifa", etc, but there's no proof


[26-Jul-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just as much as i mistrust social democrats


[26-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Frosku#5874
How do you prove membership of an organization with no member list though? It's obvious who they're tying their flag to.


[26-Jul-20 08:48 PM] Crow#5457
you can't just call someone doing something violent "antifa" and say that all antifa are like this, that's illogical


[26-Jul-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm also rather disappointed by antifa most of the time seeming that most of their "praxis" is just consumerism and tough guy posturing


[26-Jul-20 08:49 PM] wren#0114
if they do something violent then they get arrested for that, not for assumed association


[26-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Pontology#1010
@Frosku I'm talking about the original incarnation of antifa in 1932 germany. It was originally founded by a self-described Stalinist.


[26-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Frosku#5874
They had this issue in the UK with the EDL, they proscribed the organization so the EDL "disbanded" but kept running demonstrations etc, and then all the EDL thugs were like "oh, I'm not in the EDL, the EDL doesn't have a members list" -- it's a common tactic.


[26-Jul-20 08:49 PM] jlun2#8758
i have no idea are you all referring to the same group tbh


[26-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm sure there are non-violent people who subscribe to antifa's other ideals, but one of the core ideas *of* antifa is 'direct action' AKA violence.


[26-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Pontology#1010
The antifascist handbook, the handbook of antifa, explicitly calls for violence.


[26-Jul-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically, it's an ideological group, which can by action form organized, more formal groups


[26-Jul-20 08:50 PM] Pontology#1010
So yes, I can say antifa is institutionally and ideologically like this.


[26-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
If you're a communist and don't support that core premise -- the use of political violence -- you are not antifa by definition.


[26-Jul-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Violence is inevitable in a society like ours


[26-Jul-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it is nigh impossible to be an actual communist and not believe in that notion lol


[26-Jul-20 08:51 PM] Frosku#5874
I dunno, a lot of ancoms are anti-violence.


[26-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
@Serenity https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-the-law-says-about-deploying-troops-on-us-soil/2020/06/02/58f554b6-a4fc-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html


[26-Jul-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Violence is what led to the fascist coup in 1922 Italy -- and the workers tried to stem that political takeover with violence of their own


[26-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Serenity#9645
can i get something without a pay wall?


[26-Jul-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/Ktv8f


[26-Jul-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Arming the proletariat is a core tenet of marxian communist ideology


[26-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
apparently trump could just declare protesters as "insurgents" and then force them to disperse, but he hasn't even done that


[26-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
using the 1807 insurrection act


[26-Jul-20 08:53 PM] Frosku#5874
Being armed and being violent are ofc very different things though. You can be very heavily armed without initiating violence or using violence. See: most center-right protests.


[26-Jul-20 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the point of arming yourself if you're not gonna use it?


[26-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Frosku#5874
Anti-mask protests with people open carrying long rifles and wearing riot gear had zero violence for the most part.


[26-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Frosku#5874
So that you can use it if you're attacked. Guns are like fire extinguishers: a lot better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it.


[26-Jul-20 08:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it might in some rare cases work for intimidation, but paralyzing the economy through strike action often tends to be a much more effective tool imo


[26-Jul-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
@Frosku, it's gotten a little off topic, but you still haven't proven how tossing a canister of tear gas that was shot at you first when you were peacefully protesting counts as terrorism


[26-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Frosku#5874
I never even said he tossed the canister, that was someone else. I said he was antifa.


[26-Jul-20 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Arming yourself and forming militias should be a tactic reserved for when state power and legitimacy has collapsed to the point of civil war


[26-Jul-20 08:55 PM] Serenity#9645
as far as i know national guard has been deployed but no major branch has, they are on standby for the insurrection act. can you give proof that the army has been sent out?


[26-Jul-20 08:56 PM] jlun2#8758
> What's the point of arming yourself if you're not gonna use it?
placebo :twiright: 
in horror games where i know for certain there's no NPCs there i arm my self with high level gear to feel better


[26-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
> That protestor who was hit by the canister was an antifa terrorist.

> prove it or you're muted

> 
> Muting opposition? Wew. I wouldn't be that surprised by that abuse of power tbh.
> <https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1282229123071594496>


[26-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
you linked that video in response to me demanding you prove that the person with the fractured skull was an "antifa terrorist"


[26-Jul-20 08:56 PM] Frosku#5874
I'm not Andy Ngo, the antifa member in question said he didn't toss the cannister.


[26-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I said "That protestor who was hit by the canister was an antifa terrorist."


[26-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
you haven't proven that either


[26-Jul-20 08:57 PM] Frosku#5874
I've asked you how you'd like me to prove someone is a member of an org that doesn't have a member list.


[26-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
then how do you know they're antifa?


[26-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Crow#5457
that's the whole fucking point


[26-Jul-20 08:58 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4f-mNYNmM
This was the original share that I saw (warning: very graphic).

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Portland Riots 2020 - Antifa Hit By Tear Gas Canister
Every wannabe "tough guy" Antifa needs to watch this clip.
We will NOT sympathize with you if this happens, considering all the destruction and embarrassment you have brought to our country.

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[26-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
but that doesn't prove anything, just that someone was hit in the head by a tear gas canister


[26-Jul-20 08:59 PM] Frosku#5874
So I'm asking you, what's a fair proof that someone is a member of a proscribed organization which doesn't keep a member list?


[26-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Frosku#5874
Or are you just asking me to prove something you know can't be proven so you can mute me?


[26-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
once again, that's literally the point, you're claiming someone is antifa without the ability to prove it


[26-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Crow#5457
that's bad faith


[26-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Pontology#1010
@Frosku this is why I use "antifa-centric" to refer to people in antifa circles


[26-Jul-20 09:00 PM] Frosku#5874
So you would argue I shouldn't describe *anyone* as antifa then?


[26-Jul-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fuck decentralized petit-bourgeois leftist action
All my niggas organize collectively into workers' and soldiers' councils with the intent of breaking down state power


[26-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Pontology#1010
Like CHAZ


[26-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
no, I would argue that you can't just label someone antifa because they're protesting or dressed a certain way, unless they're waving around an antifa flag or wearing an antifa pin, there's no way to identify someone as antifa


[26-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
but the main issue is the "terrorist" claim


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Does that go for Nazis and fascists too? Just for the sake of reasonable debate.


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Pontology#1010
What if they wear the "antifa uniform" of black-clad and black face cover?


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Frosku#5874
Antifa are a proscribed terrorist group, anyone who is antifa is a terrorist by definition.


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Pontology#1010
It's what the antifascist handbook says to wear. People can be identified by their uniforms.


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Crow#5457
uh, that would make pretty much any emo/goth antifa


[26-Jul-20 09:02 PM] Pontology#1010
Hah, well only due to the facemask order right now. Outside of covid, no, emos/goths don't wear black face coverings alongside their all-black clothes.


[26-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
what handbook are you talking about


[26-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Pontology#1010
The Antifascist Handbook


[26-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
that's a book about the history of antifa lmao


[26-Jul-20 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Terrorist" was a term created by anarchists back in the 19th century btw -- they conducted bombings, assassinations, and a lot of that sort of stuff (even killed a Russian tsar), but so far no anarchist terrorism has popped up in the US due to a desire to break with state definitions of resistance iirc


[26-Jul-20 09:03 PM] Pontology#1010
Yes, and it also has near the end a summary of strategies and methods


[26-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Pontology#1010
It's not _just_ a history book. It uses the history to advocate a certain methodology for antifascist action.


[26-Jul-20 09:04 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/08/it_felt_like_a_war_zone_portla.html
It was a counter-protest organized by antifa against Joey Gibson of far-right group Patriot Prayer. Both sides went to fight each other. This was not a BLM protest.

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'It felt like a war zone': Portland protester hit in head by police...
For some, the gruesome injury came to define an afternoon of violence waged not by political rivals in downtown Portland -- as many had feared -- but by the police force sent to protect them.


[26-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Wait nvm, that's a different person lol.


[26-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Frosku#5874
Apparently getting hit with gas canisters is common in Portland.


[26-Jul-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
once again, they're claiming that it's organized by antifa, but without any proof of the claim


[26-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Pontology#1010
> police used crowd-control weapons on anti-fascist demonstrators gathered in downtown Portland to protest a rally by the right-wing group Patriot Prayer.


[26-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Frosku#5874
This was a different incident, just remarkably similar.


[26-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
I went on a crusade a couple months ago trying to find any articles that clearly tie antifa to "violence" and "terrorist acts", but it's all been nothing but the repeated claim that it's "antifascists" or "antifa" without any proof


[26-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Frosku#5874
The guy who was hit this month was Balin Brake.


[26-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/


[26-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
once again, they claim it's antifa


[26-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
where's the proof?


[26-Jul-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
are they wearing antifa badges?


[26-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Frosku#5874
Can we do this with fascists too though? "He wasn't wearing a swastika so we can't call him a nazi"?


[26-Jul-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, they fought right-wing demonstrators, so they must be obviously leftists


[26-Jul-20 09:08 PM] Pontology#1010
And they were wearing all-black


[26-Jul-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of my clothes are black, i guess i'm antifa then


[26-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Pontology#1010
Ok, so who were they?


[26-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Frosku#5874
Because I hear a lot of people described as Nazis because they're in the presence of Nazis, even if they don't exactly scream to the media that they're Nazis afterwards (see also: Unite The Right, punching Richard Spencer, that dickhead from America FIrst News)


[26-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Serenity#9645
rioters wear press badges in hopes they dont get arrested, because they wear press badges does that mean their press? or if a member of the press doesnt wear one does that mean they are not?


[26-Jul-20 09:09 PM] Frosku#5874
People generally do not self-identify with horribly disliked terrorist organizations.


[26-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Frosku#5874
They call themselves "protestors" or "patriots" or "proud boys" or whatever else is more popular in the modern conscience.


[26-Jul-20 09:10 PM] Pontology#1010
If you think these all-black-clothes people who, in their zeal to "punch a nazi", attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators, aren't in antifa-circles but are just ordinary democrats, that's even worse


[26-Jul-20 09:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I could care less about punching nazis in a protest -- that should be secondary to the labor struggle


[26-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Frosku#5874
I just don't think I'd be being asked to prove anything if I called Nick Fuentes or Richard Spencer a Nazi, despite neither of them identifying as Nazis. It's just accepted that they are by their actions.


[26-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
it's usually safe to say that if someone is attending a neo-nazi rally that they're a nazi, even if they aren't personally wearing a swastika


[26-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Pontology#1010
So same thing goes for anti-fascist rallies


[26-Jul-20 09:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And labor struggle is when fascists, in alliance with the bourgeoisie, come out in full force as Pinkertons and strike-breakers -- then should they be fought back physically


[26-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Frosku#5874
So why is it unreasonable to suggest that someone at a violent left-wing protest is a violent leftist?


[26-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Frosku#5874
Which we generally colloquially refer to as "antifa".


[26-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
you're strawmanning again, you're making the insinuation that all left wing protests are violent


[26-Jul-20 09:12 PM] Frosku#5874
No I'm not...


[26-Jul-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nazis are a specific organization, antifa just seems to refer to whatever left wing protest is currently happening


[26-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Frosku#5874
I literally said the opposite by *qualifying* the leftist protest as violent. If you are at a non-violent left-wing protest, you are probably *not* antifa. Antifa is a specific ideology which promotes violence for political gain.


[26-Jul-20 09:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Antifa is a catch-all term


[26-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm pretty sure neither Richard Spencer nor Fuentes are members of the National Socialism Organization.


[26-Jul-20 09:13 PM] Frosku#5874
Most leftists are *not* antifa, or violent, that's why we say antifa to refer to the violent ones.


[26-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/style/antifa-fashion.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/style/antifa-fashion.html
Why Antifa Dresses Like Antifa
A brief history of Antifa fashion.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/11/30/fashion/30BLACKBLOCS-shoes-bw/30BLACKBLOCS-shoes-bw-facebookJumbo.jpg


[26-Jul-20 09:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are people trying very hard to rigidly define anti-fasicsm as being somehow distinct from "antifa" to try and prop antifa up as capital-A Antifa, as if it's an organization on the level of the KKK, because then it can be "othered"


[26-Jul-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it's well-connected to old punk fashion and posture iirc


[26-Jul-20 09:14 PM] Pontology#1010
They have a whole fashion by which you can usually identify them. As you say, not _necessarily_, but if someone dresses in that style as described by the NYT and engages in far-left protests, they're almost certainly antifa.


[26-Jul-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn remember people calling fuentez a nazi


[26-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Frosku#5874
There were quite a few after his holocaust denial shit.


[26-Jul-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s a holocaust denier?


[26-Jul-20 09:15 PM] Frosku#5874
Yes


[26-Jul-20 09:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@WingbeatPony difference being that the KKK is a large organization and to this day the FBI has not done as much to break it down as it did with, say, the Black Panthers :twiface:


[26-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Pontology#1010
Significant difference between the mainstream right and mainstream left is the mainstream right categorically condemns right-wing extremists, as we're doing now.


[26-Jul-20 09:16 PM] Frosku#5874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8DbdeEsdM
I *think* this is the right clip but I don't have sound on.

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MGTOW POLICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8DbdeEsdM
Nick Fuentes Cookie Monster Joke
#Cookie
#NickFuentes
#Joke

This one rustled a few feathers...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yY8DbdeEsdM/sddefault.jpg


[26-Jul-20 09:16 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Of course, there are a bunch of organizations that all claim to be "the real" KKK or are directly descended from it


[26-Jul-20 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Significant difference between the mainstream right and mainstream left is the mainstream right categorically condemns right-wing extremists, as we're doing now.
@Pontology  yes and no -- the mainstream right tries to sugarcoat politicians and historical figures on their side as infallible


[26-Jul-20 09:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For example, Ronald Reagan


[26-Jul-20 09:17 PM] Frosku#5874
I don't think Reagan was infalliable. He pushed horrific gun controls and enacted amnesty.

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[26-Jul-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they dont think he;s a nazi because he;s right wing, they think he's a nazi because he's a holocaust denier


[26-Jul-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who seems to actively mock the victims of the holocaust


[26-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Frosku#5874
@prism stryder(intexda) That's my point, I don't think it's unreasonable to call someone a Nazi, or Antifa, if there is more circumstantial evidence that they are than that they aren't.


[26-Jul-20 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You personally don't -- pro-GOP media, otoh, does


[26-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Frosku#5874
Reagan gets cult status from the GOP, yeah. It's sickening. Same with Trump.


[26-Jul-20 09:18 PM] Crow#5457
it's certainly unreasonable to call someone a terrorist because they tossed a weapon lobbed at them away


[26-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Pontology#1010
I must not be watching or reading any of the conservatives who give Trump cult status. Ben Shapiro basically says Trump is a buffoon but his policies are generally right.


[26-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
the antifa thing is just a tangent


[26-Jul-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
im still confused who is antifa outside some nebulous hivemind


[26-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Crow#5457
it's basically victim blaming, "well if they weren't an antifa terrorist, they wouldn't have been attacked"


[26-Jul-20 09:19 PM] Frosku#5874
Trump pushes for more federal power, tariffs & protectionism, expands the welfare state... literally everything the GOP has spent 20+ years railing on Democrats for doing, and gets cult worshipped. How about we just say "yeah he's pretty shitty but Biden would be worse"?


[26-Jul-20 09:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> expands the welfare state
Mind elaborating on that?


[26-Jul-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
i see both as senile old white men tbh


[26-Jul-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
not the same senility tho


[26-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Pontology#1010
What does it mean to see someone as "white"?


[26-Jul-20 09:20 PM] Frosku#5874
It's more complicated than that, he was at a violent riot. Whether or not he was personally rioting (as well as whether or not the cop actually intended to hit him with the canister) we will probably never know, but he surrounded himself with violent rioters.


[26-Jul-20 09:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So far i haven't seen Trump do anything positive in regards to healthcare or food security, the corporate interests behind him would not accept that


[26-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Crow#5457
he wasn't at a violent riot, they were peacefully protesting...


[26-Jul-20 09:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He was at a peaceful protest till they started lobbing shit at protestors


[26-Jul-20 09:21 PM] Frosku#5874
My vote for Trump is literally a vote for "better than Biden", nothing else.


[26-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Crow#5457
muted, this is ridiculous


[26-Jul-20 09:22 PM] jlun2#8758
:roseconfused:


[26-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
Main reason I vote conservative is for the judicial appointees. I don't like Trump at all, aside from his policies being marginally better.


[26-Jul-20 09:22 PM] Pontology#1010
The court system is what matters most long-term.


[26-Jul-20 09:23 PM] jlun2#8758
the judges look like folks who are like "what is this "internets" young people like"


[26-Jul-20 09:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, for homophobes and anti-choice christian fundamentalists to sit at SCOTUS?


[26-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Pontology#1010
I support gay marriage but the Supreme Court decision in favor of it was wrongly decided, judicial activism.


[26-Jul-20 09:24 PM] Pontology#1010
Regardless, it's here to stay, just like Roe v Wade. I'm not concerned about it.


[26-Jul-20 09:24 PM] jlun2#8758
im just curious why is "what gender people chose to like" still controversal


[26-Jul-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought conservativs want government outside their private lives?


[26-Jul-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
breeding apparently


[26-Jul-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
we have science to help that


[26-Jul-20 09:26 PM] jlun2#8758
which im sure in my life time will make things more "interesting" i guess politically


[26-Jul-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If Trump were to sound willing to appoint pro-labor and pro-working class judges ti SCOTUS to give the labor movement some more legal clutter, i'd support him, but so far he has no intent on overturning Taft-Harley, right-to-work laws, is deeply petty towards working class women and LGBT folk...


[26-Jul-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The common things I see come up are tax benefits (where marital status and government overlap), separation of church and state (although usually, this one's an anti-example, as the whole "sanctity of marriage" thing is used to argue that the SCOTUS shouldn't rule on it at all), and a whole bunch of other stuff that's just plain bigotry


[26-Jul-20 09:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most of his "concessions to the people" have been to small businesses, not the proles


[26-Jul-20 09:27 PM] Pontology#1010
I'm bisexual, I've loved gay sex. It is still morally right for me to pursue a wife and children for the sake of reproduction, per Kant's categorical imperative of
> That which—if everyone does it—makes society better is moral, while that which—if everyone does it—makes society worse is immoral.

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[26-Jul-20 09:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What?


[26-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
As a rule of thumb. There are exceptions of course. But I think bisexuals should pursue traditional marriage for the sake of reproducing society both literally and metaphorically.


[26-Jul-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, do you know how hard it is for a gay couple to adopt? In some places, I think it's outright illegal or effectively so


[26-Jul-20 09:28 PM] Pontology#1010
Not via government fiat, of course.


[26-Jul-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And only recently did that start changing in other places


[26-Jul-20 09:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:faceclaw:


[26-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53409521

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'Jaw-dropping' world fertility rate crash expected
Nearly every country will see their populations fall as the world has fewer babies.
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[26-Jul-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Traditional nuclear marriage and family structures as inherited from the 40s and 50s middle class are a sham tbh


[26-Jul-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
@Pontology i was expecting using stem cells to turn sperm (or skin) cells to egg cells btw


[26-Jul-20 09:29 PM] Pontology#1010
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 Good, communists shouldn't reproduce.


[26-Jul-20 09:29 PM] jlun2#8758
since i hate ppl irl


[26-Jul-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Pontology you mean, the working class?


[26-Jul-20 09:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 don't take the bait


[26-Jul-20 09:30 PM] Pontology#1010
Working class is conservative.

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[26-Jul-20 09:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao


[26-Jul-20 09:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
>Stonetoss 
Great understanding of marxist theory, very cool


[26-Jul-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-02/uoc--urc020620.php

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UCLA research could be step toward lab-grown eggs and sperm to trea...
A new study on how and when the precursors to eggs and sperm are formed during development could help pave the way for generating egg and sperm cells in the lab to treat infertility.
https://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/web/223692_web.jpg


[26-Jul-20 09:31 PM] jlun2#8758
that would be the option i chose :twiright:


[26-Jul-20 09:31 PM] Pontology#1010
Great news, there's a 50% chance I'm infertile.


[26-Jul-20 09:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Would it not be a form of support for coal and oil miners to help them find other avenues of work?


[26-Jul-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not like "learn2code" nonsense, that's just "stop being poor" but for job training. I mean like subsidizing industries to make it possible for folks from towns built around fossil fuels to get jobs in something else


[26-Jul-20 09:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can still be a worker despite being a nationalist, christian and conservative -- but that makes you isolated and *falsely* conscious in terms of class


[26-Jul-20 09:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Working class conservatism can be gradually dissipated through struggle


[26-Jul-20 09:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The gold rush basically guaranteed the existence of ghost towns. Non-renewable resources like fossil fuels are the same, but it takes longer to dry up, especially if the companies that more or less own the town can get government handouts to keep these places ~~subjugated~~ existing


[26-Jul-20 09:36 PM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony im just curious how much coal miners succesfully transit into coding; i know coding barely hires any ppl tho in comparison


[26-Jul-20 09:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@jlun2 effectively decimal-point percentages. It was a meme for a reason


[26-Jul-20 09:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Parliamentary politics and a general fixation for it is what leads to working class people voting against their interests


[26-Jul-20 09:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially if you think about any tech industry jobs needing people to either move to silicon valley or have internet infrastructure strong enough to make telecommuting possible, two things which often aren't options in Coalville and Oilsburg


[26-Jul-20 09:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
never mind learning a completely unrelated skillset


[26-Jul-20 09:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> great progress was evident in the last Congress of the American "Labour Union" in that among other things, it treated working women with complete equality. While in this respect the English, and still more the gallant French, are burdened with a spirit of narrow-mindedness. Anybody who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex (**the ugly ones included**).
-Marx in a letter to Engels :twiface:


[26-Jul-20 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Was there ever any significant working class revolt in which conservative values ever played a role in motivating the rising proles? No.


[26-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Mike#8622
I mean you can quote anyone like that and make them out to be a good person


[26-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Mike#8622
or vice versa, same with Marx
"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."
Also Marx


[26-Jul-20 09:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, Marx did have his bruh moments in regards to some correspondence with a dude named Lassalle in which he called him the n-word repeatedly... not cool tbf.
But he was right in regards to gender, society, and basically almost everything


[26-Jul-20 09:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What matters about Marx is not that he issued some cancel-worthy statements, what matters is he left us an ideology and mode of thinking that is very useful for combating racism and conservatism


[26-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Mike#8622
Right in what sense? Right is a subjective word thats only based on subjective definition of a humans mind


[26-Jul-20 09:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[26-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Mike#8622
And In my subjective mind I would disagree with that since my family just saw opression and fear through people basing their rule on his teachings. So, either their experiences are "wrong" or do not count, or you cannot say there is a universal right


[26-Jul-20 10:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that their experiences are wrong or invalid -- Soviet society was quite repressive at times indeed


[26-Jul-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But the experience did not disprove Marxist theory as a whole


[26-Jul-20 10:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx himself discussed fears of parliamentarizing the communist movement, and was dead set against any thought of backwards Russia being capable of sustaining a communist mode of production


[26-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Mike#8622
Soviet, Paul Pot, Mao, Castro, the Kims, Mugabwe... Also "quite repressive" is a bit of a understatement for the death of hundreds of millions, is it not?


[26-Jul-20 10:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pol Pot, Mao, Castro, the Kims, and Mugabe were direct offshoots of Soviet imperialist foreign policy after 1920


[26-Jul-20 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
None of them would come to power if the Soviet Union hadn't felt the need to expand into the post-colonial vaccuum


[26-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Serenity#9645
holiday in cambodia


[26-Jul-20 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Soviet revolution and experiment was doomed to failure the moment the German and other western European revolutions failed


[26-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Mike#8622
Is that not the old argument of "real communism has not been attempted"? Despite all of them basing themselves off it, calling themselves communist, and using communist methods? Wouldnt it be as untrue to calim "real fascism has not be attempted" or a similar silly thing?


[26-Jul-20 10:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> and using communist methods?
They did not use communist methods of societal organization -- there were some attempts at the beginning but they fumbled out because of a lack of infrastructure and industry, an unfavorable peasant-proletarian situation...


[26-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Mike#8622
Hmm, i doubt this discussion has much of a point, I do not think I can convince you otherwise, neither can you, rendering the point moot. I gues I am just glad to live in a democracy now where I can vote against introducing a system that left deep scars in parts of my family.


[26-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
it's not that "real communism has not been attempted", it's that communism as a concept is impossible until post-scarcity is achieved


[26-Jul-20 10:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Mike where do you live?


[26-Jul-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
any government who called themselves communist in the 19th or 20th centuries were doing so as a marketing ploy, not because they were actually communist


[26-Jul-20 10:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The right to vote in itself is moot -- what matters for sustaining a functional democratic society are material conditions of living, ownership, government legitimacy, how much the military is under control...


[26-Jul-20 10:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Turkey is nominally a democracy with the right to vote, but it has suffered three coups since the last sixty years after military dissatisfaction with government and one coup attempt that might have been a false flag to boost Recep Tayyip Erdogan's popularity


[26-Jul-20 10:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even in the United States are voting rights precarious


[26-Jul-20 10:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I dislike Mao Zedong as a historical figure, but he was technically correct in arguing that power does not come from abstract legal systems but from the barrel of a gun


[26-Jul-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-mayor-says-federal-agents-cant-play-police-in-chicago-2020-7

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Chicago mayor defends her decision to work with federal agents but ...
Lightfoot said she wasn't working with Trump and that the situation was not similar to Portland, where federal agents showed up without an invitation.
https://i.insider.com/5f1ddebf4dca684162798ac4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[26-Jul-20 11:56 PM] wren#0114
paywalls are a pain


[26-Jul-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Painwalls


[26-Jul-20 11:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
🥖 🇫🇷 walls


[27-Jul-20 12:12 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
painals


[27-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I looked into the art pack charity issue some more and it turns out nazi stuff was just against e-junkie's TOS. This wasn't "the left-wing mob got it taken down," it was that the pack simply broke the site's rules. A thing private websites are allowed to have.

If the contents of the pack had complied with the site's TOS, then no amount of reporting could have gotten it removed. Reports are only effective if the thing they're reporting is actually a violation.

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[27-Jul-20 12:45 AM] Pontology#1010
https://thepostmillennial.com/radio-host-dunks-on-trump-by-claiming-seattle-riots-are-peaceful-then-rioters-torched-his-apartment-building

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Radio host mocked Trump by claiming Seattle is peaceful, then riote...
Seattle radio host and Twitter-based criminal defense advocate Paul Gallant "dunked" on President Donald Trump last month by denying that the riots are violent, then the radio host was scored on by rioters who set fire to his apartment. Now he's taking up arms.
https://thepostmillennial.com/content/images/2020/07/paul-gallant.png

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[27-Jul-20 12:47 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:lul:


[27-Jul-20 12:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It doesn't undermine his point at all. Rioters exist, we know that.

The issue is whether *most* protesters are rioters and deserve to be lumped in with them. Saying "Look, look, rioters did a bad thing" doesn't address that.


[27-Jul-20 12:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These are exceptional cases. The deserve condemnation, but not *extrapolation* to the general protests or general movement. And that's how I usually see incidents like this framed by conservative media; not an attempt to condemn rioting itself, which is fine and I'd even agree with that, but an attempt to discredit the larger movement using guilt-by-association.


[27-Jul-20 01:07 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1287494208543166464?s=20

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[27-Jul-20 01:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Mexico should ask for a refund, considering they totally paid for that flimsy thing.


[27-Jul-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jul-20 01:58 AM] ononim#8141
https://nypost.com/2018/12/03/grandma-mistaken-as-transgender-sent-to-all-male-jail/

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Grandma mistaken as transgender, sent to all-male jail
A grandma was mistakenly sent to an all-male jail in Florida because staff mistook her as transgender — and now she’s suing over the nightmarish screw-up, according to a report. Fior Pichardo de Ve…
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[27-Jul-20 01:58 AM] ononim#8141
Oldie but **HILARIOUS**


[27-Jul-20 02:21 AM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jul-20 02:22 AM] Synfag#9241
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Also, totally unrelated, but can we abolish the police real quick?"
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[27-Jul-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Kid shoots up school because bullied"


[27-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, imagine that.


[27-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think bullying is the primary reason for most shootings, especially since many school shooters went on some political screed beforehand. Most of them set out to kill what they view as an ideological enemy, not just people who were individually mean to them.


[27-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bullying leads to trauma, which leads to psychological issues, which leads to radical views and actions.


[27-Jul-20 02:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
People's mental health needs to be taken more seriously.


[27-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, absolutely.


[27-Jul-20 02:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US is really bad about connecting people with mental health services.


[27-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean look at etika, no one thought his mental health was dwindling


[27-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[27-Jul-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course this leads into, "Oh, we're not *hating* them, we're just systematically depriving them of equal rights for their own good"


[27-Jul-20 04:31 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/25/reagan-foundation-trump-rnc-quit-raising-money-off-ronald-reagans-legacy/


[27-Jul-20 04:35 AM] illumnious#7938
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[27-Jul-20 04:47 AM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jul-20 05:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah, this is a bad idea

Look, I'm as left as it gets. I'm an avid BLM supporter and I've been to numerous protests. But this stuff is - in addition to being genuinely misguided, I think - terrible optics for our movement. 

We need to be pushing for imagery of white and black people marching side by side. Still point out how minorities are subject to systemic prejudice and still work on specific measures to address that, but gestures like this muddy the waters and don't really help anyone, least of all help change policies.

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[27-Jul-20 05:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Some people just *don't get* racism. They also usually tend to be racist on some level


[27-Jul-20 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it usually comes off like old Harrison Ford trying to relate to progressives when it's absolutely clear he does not get the concept


[27-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anything, I think it sends a stronger message when members of the majority/privileged group are there. It spits in racists' faces when we show them that, no, white people *do* support BLM. Straight people *do* support gay rights. Men *do* support feminism, etc.

I'm not saying to butt in and talk over the people experiencing prejudice, but having visibly supportive people from other groups is a *good* thing, not a bad one.


[27-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Serenity#9645
What if a gay couple one black and one white disagree with the BLM leaders and their ideas are both condemned to racism?


[27-Jul-20 05:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Disagreeing with any person's ideas is fine.


[27-Jul-20 05:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's possible to disagree with what BLM is asking for without being racist, but I also think that's the wrong position. Factually and ethically.

Police and the justice system in general *are* harsher on minority communities, and black people in particular. So pushing for reform - i.e., actual *policy* changes, not just murals and renamed roads and other empty gestures - is the only avenue that makes any sense to me.


[27-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Serenity#9645
me and my ex (axample is me) both lived in pretty racist places and places with police disconnect from community, policy changes are awesome and should be ever improving but we disagree with leaders of the BLM movement for the same thing the "inability" that black people have to "be like whites"


[27-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there *is* no "be like white people" or "be like black people."


[27-Jul-20 05:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People are people and individuals are how they are. Race doesn't determine that.


[27-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree, alot of people inside the movement disagree


[27-Jul-20 05:27 AM] Serenity#9645
thats why we dont support it


[27-Jul-20 05:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've never run into that in the movement and I don't think that's a popular position.


[27-Jul-20 05:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
What does it mean to "be like whites"?


[27-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Serenity#9645
id rather support a black store owner who got his business burned down then support bail on people that commit arson


[27-Jul-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[27-Jul-20 05:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do you think the only people who've been detained during these protests are rioters?


[27-Jul-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
No


[27-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Serenity#9645
of course not there are many press that get relised shortly after, and many rioters that do too


[27-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's what the bail fund is for. Peaceful protesters who've been wrongly detained.


[27-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Serenity#9645
detained isnt arrested


[27-Jul-20 05:30 AM] Serenity#9645
arson cases got released in 90 mins, that i dont support


[27-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Serenity#9645
detainment shouldnt last more then a hour you can argue for that, but still we shouldnt let arsonists back out to continue doing what they do


[27-Jul-20 05:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Certainly. If they released a *suspected* arsonist that quickly, perhaps it was determined the person in question wasn't an arsonist?


[27-Jul-20 05:35 AM] Serenity#9645
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/23/fremont-felony-arson-vandalism-suspect-arrested-twice-in-5-days/

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A man arrested last Thursday in connection with setting fires in Fremont had been arrested on suspicion of similar crimes and released from custody just days earlier, according to police.
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[27-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Serenity#9645
he was released without bail multable times


[27-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What would the impetus be for the authorities releasing him? Lack of hard evidence?


[27-Jul-20 05:36 AM] Serenity#9645
wanna see it from the other side? a black woman painted over the BLM mural and was released without bail and did it again!


[27-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Serenity#9645
no bail laws if you read the article


[27-Jul-20 05:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm confused by that. *No* bail sounds like he shouldn't be able to get out? But evidently that's not what that means.


[27-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, I see. covid-related


[27-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Serenity#9645
no bail laws means release without paying for bail putting more people that do these things out into the streets. yeah i disagree with bail, i also disagree with letting people accused to be jailed. i dont know the answer but something needs to be fixed


[27-Jul-20 05:41 AM] Serenity#9645
no action and a release without bail means repeated offence cus no consequences, but then jailing without all the proof is bad too. i cant answer the question to this maybe someone can


[27-Jul-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[27-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev373c7wSRg comedy parody id like to discuss it, please dont ban me

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[27-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Serenity#9645
also before people say ryan long is bla bla bla, i dont know anything from him but this or anything he stands for just was funny and political


[27-Jul-20 05:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've seen this and I think *most* of this is misinformed or deliberately misrepresenting the progressive viewpoint.

Most. I agree with the dumb idpol criticisms like "x race shouldn't enjoy y race's food/clothes/music" being super cringe though.


[27-Jul-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
That was a good video, lol.


[27-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
i think it is super cringe most of my diet is asian, its bland but very healthy, but im not aisian lol


[27-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
my mindset is very german with free sexuality and a no care bout your politics you be you kind


[27-Jul-20 05:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When they talk about privilege it's absolutely misrepresenting the progressive viewpoint

Saying white privilege exists isn't saying white people are better or that they *should* be treated better. It's acknowledging that other groups aren't treated equally in many facets of society. 

I'll give the video a point for its fair criticism of wokescolding people for "appropriating" food/hobbies/music/etc. from other cultures, but the privilege bits are in bad faith.


[27-Jul-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
I wouldn't really say "bad faith". It was still a joke in the end.
The joke was "they say the same things, only for different reasons".


[27-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I thought the intent of the joke was that they actually came to the same conclusions from different directions.


[27-Jul-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
Idk, I guess it could be that too.
Either way, it gave me a chuckle.


[27-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Serenity#9645
well if whites have a privilege does it not say that they are better? or does each have a specific trait that makes one better in fields? both seem pretty racist


[27-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Privilege does not mean better. It means treated better by the system.


[27-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nobody is better or worse, but groups are still treated better or worse than each other.


[27-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
so if i say my black co-worker is lazy, but my other white co-worker deserves a raise for all he has done racist?


[27-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If you attribute it to his blackness, yes.


[27-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
good thing i dont


[27-Jul-20 05:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Privilege should be out in context, tbh.
It doesn't help anyone to look dirt-poor white people in the eye and tell them that the system is built for them.


[27-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
because it was the opposite kinda a trick question, the black guy is from Kenya and the white guy is from kansas


[27-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Honahue#0656
any analysis that excludes class is liberal garbage


[27-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[27-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When I say privilege though, I'm referring to systemic averages. Obviously there are individual white people who have it rougher than a lot of black people. What I'm saying is that the cops and the courts still treat these groups very differently even when controlling for other factors.


[27-Jul-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Consider that people most likely to be racist are also poor, and won't easily be convinced that they're privileged.


[27-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Class is a huge factor, but we must also not be class *reductionists* who don't consider the effects of prejudices on the basis of race, gender, etc.


[27-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean you can say the courts hate males, giving them way less time with their kids then famales even if the female abuses drugs


[27-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, and I do. I've long argued that this is one area where men are systemically disenfranchised, so that's consistent with my stance.


[27-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean maybe some reddit idiots are class reductionist but for the most part it's just a way of shutting down people liberals don't want to listen too cause it messes with their ideology


[27-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont like race or sex play in courts i can stand with you on that


[27-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Serenity#9645
thats great reform that needs to happen, but please point out the law that states in todays time that a race is not allowed to do x


[27-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I *do* think women face a lot of systemic disenfranchisement in the workplace though. I'm both a feminist and a men's lib advocate and I don't think the two contradict each other at all.


[27-Jul-20 06:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Liberals love to put race front and center because it's easier to confront than class.
A lot of things that target black people target them because they're *poor.*


[27-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
im not talking about the racist buisness owner, he can be taken to court. i mean a law that says one race needs this


[27-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Honahue#0656
both are true, a few days ago I posted something about the angry feminist girl "Big Red" and that if you listen to her content instead of her tone she straight up talks about men's issues


[27-Jul-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
If we lifted people out of poverty, we could eliminate a good deal of the effects of racism.


[27-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, right, the *letter* of the law is settled: The races are to be treated equally. Same for the sexes - mostly, there are  a few laws here and there that *do* treat people differently purely based on sex, but for the most part.


[27-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How well that's followed on an institutional level is a whole other can of worms.


[27-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Serenity#9645
ok so what laws says a race needs to be taken into account for hiring/work/school?


[27-Jul-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
Sex-based laws need to be fixed. If we want true gender equality, we need to eliminate the "woman = monther; man = worker" bias in our legal system.


[27-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That exists because we recognize, through rigorous studies and analysis, not just feelings - that there *is* hiring bias on the basis of race *already.* Thus, affirmative action exists to correct that.

It's not a perfect system and I don't think it's above criticism, but it also doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is not arbitrarily showing preferential treatment to minorities just because.


[27-Jul-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Which includes fixing custody discrimination.


[27-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree with that from >that guy


[27-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, 100% agreed there too.


[27-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Societally *enforced* gender roles are poison for men *and* women.


[27-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Serenity#9645
rasists hirers should get inside of the law and fined hevily great we agree now what law is based on race?


[27-Jul-20 06:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
I kind of disagree with affirmative action, because it discriminates against other disadvantaged people who aren't included in the AA system, like impoverished white people.
I think we should be trying to help *all* poor people.


[27-Jul-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
AA also periodically discriminates against Asian people.


[27-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. Like I said, I don't think it's a perfect system, but I think something *like* it should still exist even if it's replaced.


[27-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Serenity#9645
thats a law based on race and i hate it get rid of it


[27-Jul-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
^
You can't fight discrimination with discrimination.


[27-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Serenity#9645
my skill maybe less then a black guy so i dont get it. its that fair. but a black guy who scores less then me gets it is based on race.


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Affirmative Action hurts people, and grants equality of outcome while doing nothing to address equality of opportunity.


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's not how AA tends to work. It doesn't make scores irrelevant.


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It just means, if scores are similar, a person's minority status gives them the edge.


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Serenity#9645
tell me how so cus i might not know


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
What if two people have the same score?


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Serenity#9645
so its based on race?


[27-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, I've never disputed that.


[27-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Serenity#9645
then it shouldnt be


[27-Jul-20 06:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
If two people have the same score, isn't one of them discriminated?


[27-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but what do we do instead? If we just have *nothing* to safeguard against hiring bias, that's no good.


[27-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm asking for solutions, not just what you want to get rid of.


[27-Jul-20 06:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
***All*** discrimination is bad. Including affirmative action.


[27-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Serenity#9645
if me and a black person get the same score i wont complain if i dont get picked its a 50/50 chance, if i get 154 and another gets 140 ill bitch


[27-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay, that's fair. So what's a good alternative approach to reliably prevent certain groups from being disenfranchised in the workplace?


[27-Jul-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
We should be reforming our school systems to give people better opportunities, and fixing our infrastructure to give people paying jobs.


[27-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
merit


[27-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I agree. It *should* be based on merit. But like


[27-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
i worked x years in x job to get a position, x person worked less years and gets hired because of race


[27-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
AA exists because it already *wasn't* based on that. That's the issue. AA didn't just magically introduce racial bias into hiring. It was introduced to counter-balance the bias that existed already.


[27-Jul-20 06:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why is the AA discrimination any less bad than regular discrimination?


[27-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's like a two-sided scale. You're advocating taking *one* weight off, but how do we remove the other?


[27-Jul-20 06:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
Weights made of enriched uranium.


[27-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Remove or balance it, rather. AA's purpose was to balance the existing discrimination.


[27-Jul-20 06:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
No, nobody should have to suffer so it can be "balanced". You're punishing people for the crimes of others.


[27-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't have to convince me that hiring based on merit is the ideal. I agree. But that's not what's happening.


[27-Jul-20 06:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
AA is discrimination.


[27-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Serenity#9645
there isnt a take the other weight off, people are people and know things doesnt matter what race. i could hire a black person with basic computer use, but id rather hire the white person who had 10 years in dev work


[27-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay. My question is, what should we do instead?


[27-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Something other than "Nothing, just let bosses do whatever they want with no regulation."


[27-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Serenity#9645
hire and introduce to schools with merit


[27-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay, Serenity. How do you guarantee that happens?


[27-Jul-20 06:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fix equality of *opportunity*, not equality of outcome. Fix poor (see: black) communities so that their schools aren't so horrible.


[27-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Serenity#9645
by scores and tests like many do, i worked in a factory where i took a test based of ability to process quick reactions. nothing with race


[27-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How do you ensure the people making those decisions actually care about merit and aren't just letting their biases inform their hiring decisions? That's not something we can just leave completely alone.


[27-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Serenity#9645
in a office place i was told to type 30 words a min i got 73 and was still denied


[27-Jul-20 06:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not by using more discrimination, that's for sure.


[27-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Not every job has an anonymous test you can take. A good lot of them have in-person interviews and other far more subjective processes. 

I get it. I get what you *don't* want, we've established that. I'm just trying to figure out what we could do instead to hold employers accountable and make sure the laws we have about hiring discrimination are actually enforceable.


[27-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Serenity#9645
i got my job working on aircraft elecronics by being able to score high on a test that said i understand how machines work


[27-Jul-20 06:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
If a private firm is missing out on hard-working black employees because of racial bias, that's their loss.
Doubling the amount of discrimination with AA doesn't fix the problem.


[27-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Serenity#9645
please tell me if a job is discriminateing based on race ill file a complaint for you


[27-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We shouldn't say "That's their loss" because there's already a law against private businesses discriminating based on race. It has to be enforceable. Maybe not with AA, but with something else.


[27-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Serenity#9645
that complaint will goto court and i got the money to take them there


[27-Jul-20 06:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
AA is discrimination. Why should it be okay to discriminate against white/Asian people any more than black people?
AA only makes things worse.


[27-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not advocating for AA here. I'm asking about what to do in lieu of it.


[27-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Serenity#9645
take them to court


[27-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Perhaps we'd have to remove subjectivity from the hiring process. Just make *everything* objective and score-based and anonymous, I don't know.


[27-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont care black white yellow, i will take them to court for discrimiation if they can prove it to me!


[27-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Don't even turn in a name, since studies show ethnic-sounding (or gendered) names are subject to bias. Just turn in a number that will match up with your name after the hiring decision's made.


[27-Jul-20 06:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
It will never be perfect. We can only hope to level the playing field by gradually eliminating bias from our culture, and making sure that black communities aren't stuck in inescapable circles of poverty.


[27-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Serenity#9645
my name isnt my ethnic background, again ill take them to court


[27-Jul-20 06:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hiring is a social process and subject to human error, but you can't just take the human out of the equation.


[27-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Serenity#9645
my name is funny enough not white well i am white of german decent lol, but ill take people to court if they think my african-american name is the reason they dont hire me


[27-Jul-20 06:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, they already aren't.

Black people are on average *poorer* than other races, yes. But the majority of black Americans do not live in poverty. Most are working class and lower-middle class, actually.

The average black income in the U.S. is about $40,000 compared to the average white income of about $70,000. They make less to be sure, but 40,000 is well above the poverty line. Most black people are employed and do not qualify for financial assistance in the first place.

Again, I don't deny they're *poorer* on average, and that there's more black people who *do* live in poverty per capita than white people, but the perception that "most black people live in inescapable poverty" isn't actually accurate.


[27-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Serenity#9645
the advrage black household makes more then me?!?!


[27-Jul-20 06:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
I didn't say that.


[27-Jul-20 06:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
I meant that we should help poor people, of all groups.


[27-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Serenity#9645
i work on aircraft electonics and the advrage makes more then me?!?!


[27-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You didn't, sorry. You said black communities and I didn't mean to insinuate anything by it. I just wanted to clear that up because it *is* a common misconception when race and poverty are brought up.

I agree with you. Being poor in this country can be a death sentence under the wrong circumstances. I'm 100% in favor of helping the poor and - for that matter - making things like healthcare and higher education more affordable and accessible to all Americans.


[27-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Serenity#9645
i love helping the poor in many things no matter the race, ive jumpstarted many creators with less then 30k a year. but the adverage makes more then me?!


[27-Jul-20 06:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
Americans have been fighting a war on poverty for decades, but by war on poverty I mean war on poor people.
I think we need to increase social mobility for *all* ethnic groups.


[27-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Serenity#9645
i made in the fandom alone a artist and a plushie maker get on equestria daily many times by buying tablets and embroidery machines they dont need me anymore. but i make less then average i cant get over that!!


[27-Jul-20 06:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Plushie Maker can be a good job of you're good at it. Those things sell for thousands of dollars.


[27-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Serenity#9645
look up clever porcupine, the art on her tags are made by the artist i got a drawing tablet for


[27-Jul-20 06:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Based


[27-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
i got clever porcupine her embroidery and sewing machine!


[27-Jul-20 06:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's past midnight.
I sleep.


[27-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
one sec let me get a pic


[27-Jul-20 06:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
Goodnight.


[27-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Serenity#9645

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[27-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Serenity#9645
her massive rollout of many blackjacks


[27-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Serenity#9645
me making this difference at 30k i cant even imagine the average of 40k none the less 70k!


[27-Jul-20 06:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
Wow


[27-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Serenity#9645
the machine i got her

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[27-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Serenity#9645
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[27-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Serenity#9645

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[27-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Serenity#9645
but im super proud to support this!


[27-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Serenity#9645
with 30k a year below average of both black and white on your study i got a new car and can do alot!


[27-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Not a study, the U.S. census: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/06/27/1-demographic-trends-and-economic-well-being/

Pew compiled the censuses over the years into a graph here, but this is all official government data.

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[27-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
While it varies depending on family size, the cutoff point to apply for welfare's around $15,000 or less a year, going up a little bit with each child. 

So the common talking point about "black people on welfare" objectively does not and cannot apply to most black people, who simply make too much to qualify for it. (Not saying either of you said anything, just speaking generally since that talking point comes up a lot)


[27-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Serenity#9645
well that cut off point didnt agree with me, i was white single and homeless and they denied me food stamps and "affordable housing" so they can fuck off


[27-Jul-20 07:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, sure. I think everyone should get UBI for what it's worth.


[27-Jul-20 07:55 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree with ubi in a autonomous world, but i had to work for everything i had well i saw people raising their children in the slums next to my affordable rent housing complain they didn't have enough for free and my motorcycle my main way of transportation was attempted to be stolen every week


[27-Jul-20 07:57 AM] Serenity#9645
my neighbor was nice enough to have security cameras installed pointed at it. i wish  i saved it and pressed charges, but i didnt and im alot more knowing of what people do there.


[27-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Serenity#9645
people steeling my way of going to school and work cus i own a "recreational" vehicle is fucked up but i lived with that and im glad i had neighbors i bbqed with and drank with that showed me that!


[27-Jul-20 07:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, we don't need a totally autonomous society for that. UBI wouldn't replace working. It's enough to pay for necessities, but people would still work on top of that to afford things beyond the basics like food and housing. It wouldn't be *in lieu* of a salary, it'd supplement it.


[27-Jul-20 08:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We all like *stuff.* We like internet and video games and entertainment and all kinds of non-essential yet important things to us, and we'd naturally work to get those things. We just wouldn't have to fear being out on the street if we lost our jobs quite as much.


[27-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe some of us want a bigger house than what the base UBI package can provide. Better work for it.


[27-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Serenity#9645
i can agree with automation being the cause of UBI i barely use netflix or anything else to "ralax" i used my time to learn about cars and hot to fix them. i had crackhead neighbors ask me to give kids rides on my bike so they had time to not worry about them. i had "affordable housing projects" that gave advisory to black and homeless women then me with open residence there well i was homeless or with a job. its not fair and i worked out of that


[27-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Serenity#9645
hell i voted for yang untill he dropped out because i liked his points!


[27-Jul-20 08:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I agreed with Yang about UBI, less on some other issues.  I do feel like it's going to happen at some point now. It's more a question of how soon.


[27-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree with that as well, but now as i see it we cant get rid of factory workers me being one 3 three years ago.


[27-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like I said, I don't see UBI as a replacement for working. It's to supplement income.


[27-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You couldn't live well off UBI alone for long.


[27-Jul-20 08:09 AM] Serenity#9645
its a great program post workers and he had great plans for the future, people can learn from him even if pepole have it wrong too (wrong subjective)


[27-Jul-20 08:10 AM] Serenity#9645
but i want to vote for tump other then i agree with everything, hates his voters biden because he dropped out is stuipid to label me as the enemy or a nazi that ive been called before


[27-Jul-20 08:11 AM] Serenity#9645
i was gonna vote yang, but sleept joe made me go hell no


[27-Jul-20 08:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh. "I'm voting for x because people who support y were rude to me" is a bad take. Both candidates are crusty out-of-touch old bastards, our voting should be based on policy, not how we perceive the character of people on the other side.


[27-Jul-20 08:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Biden's policies are better for the working class from pretty much every way I look at them. Not *ideal,* he's still a centrist Democrat, after all. But he's not nearly as actively hostile to the poor as Republicans have pretty much always been.


[27-Jul-20 08:15 AM] Serenity#9645
a big point is with foreign wars, and trump said no were trying to get it out but democrats say no to the bills. i want out of costly stupid wars and more jobs to the country that trump proposes to get out. you can call him racist but he has made this a point before the election and im proud of that, like yangs run


[27-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Serenity#9645
i belive someone before his election proposing anti-war bills then this is a promise like the 8 years of obama. he has limited and shut down many forign bases


[27-Jul-20 08:19 AM] Serenity#9645
but in bias i would like non-nuclear war against china where they have conventration camps againt a minority group of muslims  and have a cold war with many indian nations


[27-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is a situation where some interventionism could be justified, sure. If it's to stop the concentration camps and free their victims it's a justified action.


[27-Jul-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course, we need to clean up our own house on that front.


[27-Jul-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The migrant detention camps are inexcusable and need to be shut down. I'm not playing sides here. Obama and Trump are both culpable.


[27-Jul-20 08:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i believe that concentration camps require exterior force but a war that people fight from before they were born is not we achived the goal of lowering attacks from 30 to 6 a year, it will always happen but that is better then i can say from the obama admin


[27-Jul-20 08:24 AM] Serenity#9645
and yes obama put in "child cages" that should be gone too and ill blame trump for tot getting rid of it as well. but people that broke the law need to leave


[27-Jul-20 08:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't have to convince me that Obama's foreign policy was bad. I've got a long record of criticizing it. 

Believe me, while I intend to vote for Biden, I am not a Democrat or enthusiastic about the party. I wish we'd gotten Bernie, but Biden is still the better of the two options before me and it isn't even close.


[27-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Serenity#9645
i believe in trumps policys but not all as the lesser of two evils. and ill never critique you for what you vote and will never and please call me out if i do.


[27-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Serenity#9645
i hate him as a person


[27-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, it's *fine* to critique me for how I vote.


[27-Jul-20 08:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's policy. We ought to be able to be frank about that. It's not an attack on my character if you say my policy opinions are misinformed, or vice versa if I say that.


[27-Jul-20 08:31 AM] Serenity#9645
and i will never say it is, i have the understanding people have a different view of politics, i lived in germany for a year and a i believe in that other then the free speech argument there


[27-Jul-20 08:33 AM] Serenity#9645
i believe alot in germany (dont call me a nazi for that) they have freedom of sexuality and take in refugees, refugees create a bunch of violence but ive met many that try to speak against it so not all are bad


[27-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Serenity#9645
but the total disregard of people who want to speak their mind being silenced without a place to move to is bad


[27-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right now I'm supporting Biden's campaign but if he wins, I will *absolutely* openly criticize him just as I have Trump.

You're going to see me in this channel regularly complaining about Biden when he fucks up. I just believe - and I think it's an informed belief - that he'll fuck up less disastrously than Trump already has or will if elected to four more years.


[27-Jul-20 08:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I'm no hypocrite. I won't be excusing him because he's "my guy"


[27-Jul-20 08:35 AM] Serenity#9645
thats a good point to take and as the opposite side ill say support him


[27-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Serenity#9645
for me freedm of speech takes both ways just realise what you side is saying with that freedom


[27-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh sure. I'll support him when he makes the right decisions, and I believe at least some of them will be. Like the Supreme Court nominee. I also think he's more likely to pass progressive bills than Trump is, so there's hope for that.


[27-Jul-20 08:36 AM] Serenity#9645
not as a bash againt whatever just as a i know what he stands for kind


[27-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Serenity#9645
i can see biden on a stance for freedom from the federal government that i really like. but on the other side i can see a resistance to freedom of speech and allowing everyone that has their opinions online with trump


[27-Jul-20 08:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And on top of bashing the candidates (I'm with Mechano on pretty much everything said in the last 10 minutes) we desperately need to dismantle both party conventions


[27-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What policy is Biden proposing that stifles freedom of speech?


[27-Jul-20 08:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I wouldn't be surprised if Joe "announce a website before registering it" Biden would sign a bill that's the latest reincarnation of SOPA/PIPA but I don't know if he's announced any boneheaded policies like that


[27-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah he'd appoint people smart enough not to do that


[27-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Serenity#9645
id rather pull out of the "freedom war" and allow free speech then side with well your a dog faced pony soldier union worker, you should vote for trump or if you dont vote for me then you aint black canidate


[27-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but... when you say you can see "a resistance to freedom of speech" with Biden, what is that based on?


[27-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Both of those comments were at least slightly in jest


[27-Jul-20 08:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But yeah, gaffes


[27-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Serenity#9645
slightly and many gaffes


[27-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Serenity#9645
i just dont have faith antmore


[27-Jul-20 08:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean... if anything, Trump has been kinda down on free speech lately, what with breaking up peaceful protests like Lafayette Square.

I'm not denying that rioting happens, but that one unambiguously was not a riot.


[27-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fewer than 100 days and it's still hard to demonize vanilla


[27-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Serenity#9645
dont get me wrong i have criticisms of both sides. do nothing republicans is a big rasion i dont vote that way


[27-Jul-20 08:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is no Hillary, it's hard to run a campaign against him


[27-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Clinton had a *ton* of baggage, yeah.


[27-Jul-20 08:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only reason I don't think *Trump* would pass an internet censorship bill is if he's made to believe it'd impact him personally. Otherwise he'd totally cut off his nose to spite his own face if Twitter decided to get uppity with him again


[27-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Basically if people don't buy "he's a puppet for the far left" there's not much left yet


[27-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sex scandals and cognitive stuff don't matter to people.


[27-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When you look at the 2016 polls, it was way closer the entire time. Like, everyone says "the polls were wrong" for favoring Clinton, but they only favored her by a few points; one standard polling error away from a Trump victory, which 538 kept emphasizing.

Biden is - at least so far - doing a lot better than she was. It's no guarantee - nothing is, so vote! - but I do think Biden is being publicly received *way* better than Clinton was.


[27-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Serenity#9645
its hard to not vote for someone who isnt threatening like biden but policies like getting out of the middle east is a big goal of mine and bills have been struck down for that


[27-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one cares sadly and apparently if the president rambles or has sexually assaulted people, it's odd Trump would even focus on either


[27-Jul-20 08:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the goal was to boost Bernie but now well


[27-Jul-20 08:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, Biden isn't a puppet for the far left, but he is a mouthpiece for the exact average of the left. Which means he's equally likely to cater to centrists and neoliberals as he is progressives


[27-Jul-20 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really think he wants to please everybody


[27-Jul-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's going to pick one of two women that the progressive wing would both hate, so


[27-Jul-20 08:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I didn't say he's *gonna* please everybody


[27-Jul-20 08:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris or Rice


[27-Jul-20 08:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Around this time 2016, *Trump* was actually ahead of Clinton by a couple points; see, he and Clinton kept overtaking each other repeatedly in the polling aggregate. 

Biden is 9 points ahead, and not once has Trump gotten ahead of him like he kept doing with Clinton. Again, don't get overconfident or defeatist on *either* side. But I think this shows just how widely disliked Clinton was.


[27-Jul-20 08:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One thing I will note is that Biden has been pretty consistent with wearing a mask in his photo ops and generally following CDC guidelines. Trump has not until extremely recently


[27-Jul-20 08:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump has also pressured schools to reopen and has - in general - not handled the pandemic well according to most Americans.


[27-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Serenity#9645
i just think the ecolocal sucess trump had and hes bills that says to end forign war/ bring industry back to the us is right. vs  the biden-bernie coalition that says open borders and black people are a guaranteed vote with your not black if you dont vote for me


[27-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Serenity#9645
trust me im not for him, most people could be way better


[27-Jul-20 08:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Among those who haven't given in to the theory that Bill Gates, Fauci, and George Soros are teaming up to infect us all with gay 5G, I think Biden's gonna be the one with the track record to support the claim "I'm gonna get us through this covid thing"


[27-Jul-20 08:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Both are idiot gaffe-machines


[27-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Serenity#9645
5g machines? i work on aircraft thats all bullshit with 5g "conservancy" weve been using 5g long before it was licensed


[27-Jul-20 08:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh so you install chemtrails, got it :D


[27-Jul-20 08:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But for every "You ain't black" there's a handful of dumb shit Trump's said. At this point it should be about policy, because looking at how they speak and carry themselves isn't super impressive on either side - though I do still contend Biden keeps his foot out of his mouth a bit more.


[27-Jul-20 08:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Leadership is a quality lacking in both candidates, but Trump has gone past zero and into the negatives in terms of leadership


[27-Jul-20 08:55 AM] Serenity#9645
look at the video with charlamagne the gods video


[27-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Serenity#9645
im not denying trump used it as amunition but its pretty wow


[27-Jul-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Basically, Biden needs to stay on-script and avoid talking off the cuff for the next 100 days. We don't need a "basket of deplorables" comment this time.


[27-Jul-20 08:57 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree with that


[27-Jul-20 08:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
One can only hope. I still can't believe they ran that Biden ad where he flubs his one opening line in the first 5 seconds and it's subtitled


[27-Jul-20 08:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that line was oddly similar to Bernie's "I am once again asking for your support" too


[27-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Picking a progressive VP could help too. Biden's more of a centrist Dem but picking a running mate who's a bit more to the left could assuage some of the concerns from people who wanted Bernie - who Biden *is* at least listening to.


[27-Jul-20 08:59 AM] Serenity#9645
dont get me wrong, i despise trump and biden, id rather move to germany and not deal with a 2 party system. but way more times biden has been racist and discrimitory in recent years then any cnn article can say to me. id rather be animal party in the EU


[27-Jul-20 09:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think we're gonna get away from a 2-party system unless we abolish the influence of parties and private donors in the elections, and good luck with that


[27-Jul-20 09:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Trump played that strategy with Pence. Trump picked a traditional religious guy because a lot of Republicans resonate with that.


[27-Jul-20 09:04 AM] Serenity#9645
trump with all his flaws gave good loans to black businesses before runing for president, and i hate redefining of words but the bill against discrimination of political parties is good id love to hear both sides not one, so is the garden of heros. theres alot of good threre without biden in his bunker


[27-Jul-20 09:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
outdated meme

Biden's actively out campaigning, he's just taking safety precautions while he does.


[27-Jul-20 09:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which I think looks strong and responsible, not cowardly.


[27-Jul-20 09:06 AM] Serenity#9645
not that i cant say he isnt doing enough about the riots, the LGBT movement, or many other bills that have attacks on a forign nation


[27-Jul-20 09:07 AM] Serenity#9645
theres many things i can say is wrong, but i belive in freedom of speech and if he calls for hate speech ill condem that too


[27-Jul-20 09:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Pretty much every gain in LGBT rights during this presidential term has happened *despite* Trump. Whenever Trump had any direct input on the matter, he took rights away.

I am pleasantly surprised that the conservative-leaning Supreme Court ruled in favor of anti-discrimination for sexuality and gender identity though. Gives me hope.


[27-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Serenity#9645
LGBT rallies he headed . if it was better or not i dont care i see the rainbow flag in his arms and say yes, even if it goes against trnsgenders who he never spoke about, yeah biased but pretty middle myself i like my rational trans friends and think trump is wrong . my trans frinds call him a nazi im gay and would be forced labor or dead then. this just isnt the case


[27-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump held up a rainbow flag, but his policies have never been pro-LGBT rights. It's virtue-signaling.

His actual policies have resulted in many trans soldiers losing their jobs.


[27-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He wants to claim to be a pro-LGBT president but he hasn't done *one* pro-LGBT thing in office. He's done actively *anti*-LGBT things.


[27-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't get to say "I'm on your side" as you disenfranchise people.


[27-Jul-20 09:17 AM] Serenity#9645
basically theres so much bias from both sides. and as a vocal moderate (with is rare) i prefer to vote of the less of two evils obama/biden or trump/whats his name. you cant please them all. thats why i aploud you wuth going against my "god emperor" retard


[27-Jul-20 09:20 AM] Serenity#9645
please vote for who you want thats more important then me in all seriousness


[27-Jul-20 09:22 AM] Serenity#9645
im a lefty and i wanna vote against you. its only fair to hear there is a oppisitiion like the 15 party people in geramnay but really its down to who votes for who


[27-Jul-20 09:24 AM] Serenity#9645
i wish germany had a electoral collage but they dont. bad things happen sometimes. trump should not have won nor hillary for obvious reason its just now a punk song you cant leave


[27-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```CEO of HierarchyВчера, в 22:30
Working class is conservative.```


[27-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
actually true, but not in a way Stonetoss envisioned.


[27-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
I refer you to russian worker towns. 'Christian' only in the sense they they hate gays enough to kill them, dominated by media (in practice primarily TV, which is quite depressing in 2020), severe patriarchy,  street justice as the primary source of societal code (laws and police only come into play when it's something related to money coming into the system, jobs, subsidies etc), the list goes on.


[27-Jul-20 10:24 AM] Opponent#3498
as well as historic rampant abuse of alcohol, transitioning lately into abuse of drugs. Like, double digit percentage of addicts.


[27-Jul-20 10:25 AM] Opponent#3498
bringing people like them into some common cause... I wouldn't really expect it to work.


[27-Jul-20 10:26 AM] Opponent#3498
then again, Russia might be a bad example given their current state of heavy industry.


[27-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Opponent#3498
```this stuff is - in addition to being genuinely misguided, I think - terrible optics for our movement. ```
absolutely. It's precisely what I, as well as some people from US I talked to, have against the organisation, not the idea. BLM turns into 'only BLM' instead of 'BLM too'. Highly problematic.


[27-Jul-20 11:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think conservative media prefers to frame it as an organization - and an organization called "Black Lives Matter" *does* exist - but the *vast* majority of protesters under that banner are not *part* of any such organization. They're part of a decentralized movement without any official leadership or membership. 

BLM the organization exists. BLM the decentralized movement exists. There's overlap between the two but they're often talked about as if they're the same entity, and I feel like because of that, the people on either side end up talking past each other because they're defining their terms completely differently.


[27-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not the clearest-cut analogy, but maybe religious affiliation is a decent example. Someone can be a Christian (i.e. the belief, the *cause* if you will) but not be a member of a specific Christian church (i.e. the organization).


[27-Jul-20 01:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-senator-tom-cotton-slavery-necessary-evil-attacksnyt-2020-7

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"As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built," remarked Sen. Cotton in comments that have drawn criticism.
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[27-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jul-20 01:24 PM] Synfag#9241
a black man shouting "all lives matter" while the white crowd chanting "black lives matter" gets angry at him


[27-Jul-20 01:27 PM] Synfag#9241
> *We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can’t understand our country. **As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction.***


[27-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Synfag#9241
Why cut off the last part of what Tom Cotton said?


[27-Jul-20 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
because it doesn't mean heck of a lot I imagine. The view is, 'eventually some day (in post-scarcity society)' isn't good enough.


[27-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
he's trying to justify Confederacy's side while painting Union as going against the Founders, is what I'm seing here.


[27-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Opponent#3498
whether it's actually true... Well, beats me.


[27-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Opponent#3498
also, cutting off the last part removes any subtlety from the words and makes it easier to attack them.


[27-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Synfag#9241
cutting off the last part makes it look like Tom cotton said that slavery is a "necessary evil" and only that
now that's just evil for the author of that article to do that


[27-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Opponent#3498
evil, no, that's a common trick lately.


[27-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Synfag#9241
just like the *science won't get in the way* misquote


[27-Jul-20 01:36 PM] Synfag#9241
everybody loved that
really shows how insane mainstream news has been


[27-Jul-20 01:36 PM] Opponent#3498
that one was just a clusterfuck, you had several different interpretations of the words depending on your pov


[27-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Opponent#3498
even the full quote didn't really help


[27-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Synfag#9241
same way
cut off what's necessary to make the person look bad


[27-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Synfag#9241
full quote actually made it clearer


[27-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Opponent#3498
we've had this discussion several days ago. The words used were ambiguous enough even in full. It was a really poor form for a government public speaker.


[27-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Opponent#3498
as for this... The missing piece doesn't remove much from the meaning. It turns 'slavery good' into 'slavery good because it won't last forever'


[27-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Opponent#3498
although, yes, I absolutely prefer when people provide full transcripts of things they describe


[27-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Synfag#9241
it's a great tactic
it puts the conservatives on the defensive
and makes them look bad even further
you can manipulate them into saying "yes, but..." then you can cut them off with your argument


[27-Jul-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the same tactic conservatives use :twismug:


[27-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it's scummy no matter who does it.


[27-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Synfag#9241
they're too weak to do that
they cling too hard on the high ground


[27-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Synfag#9241
they try to be the better person
well, until they are a bloody mess after being bludgeoned


[27-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Synfag#9241
that's why they always lose


[27-Jul-20 01:42 PM] Synfag#9241
their morality is their weakness


[27-Jul-20 01:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
lmao the 'moderates' are the most vocal status quo warriors in america, there is no real left, bernie was barely left


[27-Jul-20 01:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
in america if you call yourself a 'moderate' you're probable center-right wing


[27-Jul-20 01:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
overton window go brrrrr


[27-Jul-20 01:44 PM] Opponent#3498
the last time I watched something public of US was impeachment trials. GOP side was _very much not_ clinging to high ground of any sort


[27-Jul-20 01:44 PM] Synfag#9241
that's the GOP


[27-Jul-20 01:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
there is literally no such thing as left wing mainstream media.


[27-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Going against the Fathers" shouldn't be some slam-dunk condemnation anyway

The Fathers were wrong about a lot of things and it's fine to go against their intentions on those points.


[27-Jul-20 01:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america worships the ground they stood on too much


[27-Jul-20 01:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
left wing media is like, that leftist newspaper a random trotskyist sells you at a political rally lmao


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's the size of 'left wing media'


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All my life Republicans have been calling Democrats "socialists"

*lmao i wish*


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
I guess we have like, teen vogue now? lmao, that's it


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my experience "left wing media" tends to be wallstreet conservative at best


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Synfag#9241
> there is literally no such thing as left wing mainstream media.
@dissociativity 

CNN, MSNBC, etc. 24/7 Drumpfaton says otherwise

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[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's the closest thing I can think of to 'left wing mainstream media'


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
rofl that's not left-wing


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
MSNBC is totally wallstreet conservative


[27-Jul-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
literally teen vogue, that's it.


[27-Jul-20 01:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
I cannot think of anything more mainstream than teen vogue that is left wing


[27-Jul-20 01:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were comparing bernie sanders to a nazi uprising


[27-Jul-20 01:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
noooo you can't tax billionaires you're LITERALLY a nazi


[27-Jul-20 01:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
America's overton window is so far to the right that the Democrats - who are center-right at best - are called "radical leftist socialists."


[27-Jul-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"But whast if he invades and kills us in the night!"


[27-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Synfag#9241
> rofl that's not left-wing
@Dr. Mechano 

tell me again why they are totally unbiased


[27-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I didn't say they're "unbiased," I said they're not left wing.


[27-Jul-20 01:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they arent unbiased, they just arent left wing


[27-Jul-20 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
american brainlets be like: wow nike or some shit supports gay rights and LARP about supporting BLM but do nothing to actually support the movement, damn, left wing


[27-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*They painted BLM on a road but didn't change any policy!* Such leftism


[27-Jul-20 01:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
apparently the pepsi protest meme is real life


[27-Jul-20 01:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if we offer the portland border patrol a pepsi, peace will be restored!


[27-Jul-20 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
they're biased, towards the neoliberal institution which doesn't want you to be bigotted so they can sell products freely to everyone regardless of minority status and market to every demographic for profit, they don't care about minorities that cannot afford or won't buy their products


[27-Jul-20 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
and of course, the poor demographics of every minority are the very oppressed ones they'd help were they actually caring


[27-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see *some* positives to woke-branding - like normalizing gay people in the public consciousness even if the intent is to just make a buck - but we shouldn't see it as a replacement to actually changing policy.


[27-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
@dissociativity you n Frosku should have a chat. I feel it'll come off amazing :D


[27-Jul-20 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
there's a very mild positive, but mostly it's jerking themselves off


[27-Jul-20 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
we already have and we disagree on a lot lol


[27-Jul-20 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
frosko thinks everyone can magically have a good education and learn to code and it's their fault if they're poor


[27-Jul-20 01:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, it's a mild positive but it's there. I do think that if I'd grown up in an America with a pride month and rainbow-branding and gay characters in everything I'd have probably been closeted for a lot less long than I was.


[27-Jul-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also doesnt seem to understand how inflation factors into loss of resources


[27-Jul-20 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
and that welfare should be eliminated because it's big government stealing his money with taxation


[27-Jul-20 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s just a "thing that exists" and it has no bearign on an argument about welfare


[27-Jul-20 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
and that ackshually israel genociding people is good because jews lived there once forever ago but then didn't, and then with imperialist power support did again with force


[27-Jul-20 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
because the ancestral homelands blood and soil memes toootaly deserve credibility to anyone, ever


[27-Jul-20 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you want an ethnostate or are a 'civic nationalist' I'm inherently against you


[27-Jul-20 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
there's a reason white supremacists love Israel and it fits perfectly into their ideology


[27-Jul-20 01:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But Israel's not an ethnostate, they *let* some Arabs live there and the letter of the law claims they're equal!


[27-Jul-20 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
Europe for Europeans, Israel for Jews, ect, ect.


[27-Jul-20 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you can have an asterisk at the end like
Ethnostate*
***with some exceptions**


[27-Jul-20 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
that doesn't make it not an ethnostate lol


[27-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i know, that's my point


[27-Jul-20 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
of course, just clarifying incase any outside observers read this


[27-Jul-20 01:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That is an argument I've seen though,.


[27-Jul-20 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
yes, frosky wosky brings it up


[27-Jul-20 01:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't want to be too hard on Frosku. He's not here.


[27-Jul-20 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
forgetting that said arabs get physically assaulted and more fairly regularly


[27-Jul-20 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
fair enuff


[27-Jul-20 02:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oaaP68i4s

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How to person woman man camera tv
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[27-Jul-20 02:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That the president is even giving public statements about his basic mental competency is sure something


[27-Jul-20 02:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bush's malapropisms almost feel quaint now.


[27-Jul-20 02:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I can say 5 simple words! I'm a stable genius!"


[27-Jul-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a word as large as "camera" must have been insanely difficult


[27-Jul-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-rejects-trumps-call-re-admit-russia-to-the-g7-2020-7

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Germany has rejected Trump's bid to bring Russia back into the G7
Trump said in June it was "common sense" for Russian President Vladimir Putin to be invited to the G7.
https://i.insider.com/5edf87622618b95931049b95?width=1200&format=jpeg


[27-Jul-20 02:19 PM] Treascair#7785
Benefit of hindsight: I actually like Bush.  It's Cheney and his ilk that were the entire fucking problem.


[27-Jul-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much sums up the bush administration


[27-Jul-20 02:20 PM] Treascair#7785
Bush? Not a bad guy, genuinely had his heart in the right place, probably could have stood to think things through better.  Cheney was actively evil.


[27-Jul-20 02:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Synfag  so upon rereading that tom cotton article, that quote piece wasnt even missing, it was just later in the article


[27-Jul-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> 
> He said: "We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can't understand our country.
> 
> "As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction," he said.


[27-Jul-20 02:24 PM] Synfag#9241
way too later in the article
now everybody has somethinng different in mind instead of what he really said


[27-Jul-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, well, there we go. My main complaint about the article was unfounded.


[27-Jul-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was at the beggining


[27-Jul-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s fucking 7 lines in

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[27-Jul-20 02:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god, not 7 lines in, how will people ever guage context if thye dont put everything in the first sentence of the article!


[27-Jul-20 02:29 PM] Synfag#9241
> it;s fucking 7 lines in
@prism stryder(intexda) 

enough to poison the well

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[27-Jul-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you only read the first sentence of any given article then?


[27-Jul-20 02:30 PM] Synfag#9241
just the the title is already enough to frame it as him saying slavery is a "necessary evil"

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[27-Jul-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s exactly what he said though


[27-Jul-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he said slavery was a necessary evil to the foundign of the union


[27-Jul-20 02:30 PM] Synfag#9241
> that;s exactly what he said though
@prism stryder(intexda) 

and there it is.

> it's a great tactic
> it puts the conservatives on the defensive
> and makes them look bad even further
> you can manipulate them into saying "yes, but..." then you can cut them off with your argument


[27-Jul-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne he quoted the founding fathers saying the exact same thing but that it would end eventually


[27-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
make you look like a supreme brainlet tbh @Synfag


[27-Jul-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
I actually took 'the quote was never in the article' at face value. Shame on me.


[27-Jul-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not a discussion. It's a fucking article.


[27-Jul-20 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s his literal quote


[27-Jul-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can’t understand our country. **As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, **but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction.


[27-Jul-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the "As" wasn;t there it would just be him quoting them. The "as" adds a denotation of agreement


[27-Jul-20 02:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Framing slavery as "necessary" is a disservice to absolutely everyone.

People throughout history *have* established societies without slaves.


[27-Jul-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
saying it would end eventually is also a cop out because eventually would never come if the confederacy was any indication


[27-Jul-20 02:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it took a literal war to end slavery


[27-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Slavery is such an indefensible evil that it needed to be ended by any means necessary as soon as possible.

Pushing back abolition would have also pushed back desegregation and every other civil rights gain.


[27-Jul-20 02:43 PM] byte[]#2610
can't tell if satire https://i.redd.it/5ajvhkobq9d51.jpg

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[27-Jul-20 02:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Based. Kill all statues if it means saving actual living breathing people.


[27-Jul-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because we couldnt just comission a new statue of liberty? it probably wouldnt be that hard, it might take a few years to rebuild but c;mon


[27-Jul-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
Based. Kill all statues if it means saving actual living breathing people.[2]


[27-Jul-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
but heyy, blood for the blood god (economy)


[27-Jul-20 02:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
"I got these holes in my lungs serving the economy" says the gibbering homeless old man in 2054 as the rest of us are shipped off to Elon's "internship not slavery" space academy


[27-Jul-20 02:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Trolley problem with the statue of liberty. 
The statue will be damaged if you let the trolley keep going. the damage can be repaired.
The person will die if you change the track and the statue will be safe from damage.
🕹️ :shrugpony: 
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↘️ 🤷


[27-Jul-20 02:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Torch that statue, baby


[27-Jul-20 02:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
conservatives are allergic to books and need statues to remind themselves of history so that they can beg daddy to bring the 50s back except poor people die more


[27-Jul-20 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the irony is if we went back to the 50's all their guns would be more heavily regulated


[27-Jul-20 02:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
and the taxes on the rich would be far higher, and public housing would actually exist


[27-Jul-20 02:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Remember, Democrats are the party of slavery and the Confederacy but *please don't take away our Jefferson Davis statue*


[27-Jul-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats are slaving monsters but if you throw christopher pike to the pike, then i'll be very cross with you!"


[27-Jul-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
I can't wait for churchill to be thrown into a river


[27-Jul-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
some absolute madlad britbonger better do it, imagine protecting that genocidal racist fuck becuase 'muh those were the times he just had to genocide millions deliberately and he was involved in WW2 somewhat'


[27-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
just replace every statue with these bad boys

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[27-Jul-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yes.


[27-Jul-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The democrats are slave owning monsters *continues to protest a statue of a slave owner being torn down while waving a confederate flag*


[27-Jul-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
Churchill defenders are unironically all fucking stupid, this is perfectly good faith because it's objectively true.


[27-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://twitter.com/hbomberguy/status/1270013610820018176?lang=en basically yeah

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Hitler: I am 112 racisms
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[27-Jul-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
confederacy LARPers are just degenerate consoomers buying product of their favorite brand change my mind


[27-Jul-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a gundam statue for every city!


[27-Jul-20 03:16 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358570191745187840/737232480268058634/image0.png

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[27-Jul-20 03:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
`confederacy LARPers are just degenerate consoomers buying product of their favorite brand change my mind`
As in, buying different patterned flags than the ones Americans usually buy?


[27-Jul-20 03:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good.


[27-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a southerner, my anecdotal observation is that Confederate fans are way more flag-humpy than even the most outwardly patriotic of Americans toward the U.S. flag. They'll slap that thing on *everything* - their clothes, their house, the back of their truck, their goddamn belt buckles.


[27-Jul-20 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their underwear


[27-Jul-20 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-says-veterans-wall-of-protectors-and-line-of-innocent-mothers-were-anarchists-who-hate-our-country/

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President Donald Trump is desperately trying to win a “law and order” campaign, but to do so he has to paint Black Lives Matter protesters as a group of violent anti-American attackers. The video footage not only doesn’t support it, it’s working against him. Over the weekend i...
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[27-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course he said that. 

And it isn't even specifically a Trump thing. The Republican party makes a big show of "supporting the troops" but ultimately they treat them as disposable. They'll urge young people to fight and risk their lives for their country, then do everything in their power to give veterans as few benefits as possible once they get back.


[27-Jul-20 03:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for quotes here;s the full tweet:

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[27-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Incredible.


[27-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Synfag#9241

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[27-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I hope it helps.


[27-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[27-Jul-20 04:25 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fox4news.com/news/4-injured-in-shooting-at-dallas-sports-bar-after-men-not-allowed-in-due-to-covid-19-restrictions.amp

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4 injured in shooting at Dallas sports bar after men not allowed in...
Dallas police said three men were shot and a woman was hit by shrapnel when someone opened fire outside a sports bar in North Oak Cliff Saturday night.
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[27-Jul-20 04:28 PM] byte[]#2610
hmmm https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/trump-immigration-nation-netflix.html

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By Caitlin Dickerson
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A Rare Look Inside Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Draws Legal Threats
A new documentary peers inside the secretive world of immigration enforcement. The filmmakers faced demands to delete scenes and delay broadcast until after the election.
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[27-Jul-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/good-luck-eating-out-ted-cruz-faces-backlash-after-suggesting-restaurant-servers-are-grifters/

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‘Good luck eating out’: Ted Cruz faces backlash after suggesting re...
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) faced backlash online on Sunday after he suggested restaurant servers are grifting government money instead of working during the coronavirus pandemic. Cruz made the remarks during an appearance on the CBS program Face the Nation. “I’ve spoken to small bus...
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[27-Jul-20 04:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
ted cruz having the absolute gall to call anyone a grifter


[27-Jul-20 04:44 PM] Synfag#9241
Start of Day 2 of Bernell Trammell not being mentioned on any major news network


[27-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Synfag#9241
it's been local news and articles so far


[27-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
uhhh


[27-Jul-20 04:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/25/wisconsin-republicans-milwaukee-bernell-trammell-trump the guardian's pretty major, my dude

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Republicans say Milwaukee murder may be linked to support for Trump
Party says killing of Bernell Trammell may have been political but those who knew him say 60-year-old supported Trump and Black Lives Matter
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[27-Jul-20 04:49 PM] Synfag#9241
> it's been local news and __**articles**__ so far


[27-Jul-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://nypost.com/2020/07/25/black-trump-supporter-bernell-trammell-shot-dead-in-milwaukee/ new york post

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Murder of black Trump supporter Bernell Trammell spurs call for fed...
The shooting death of a black Trump supporter in Milwaukee has state Republicans calling for a federal investigation. Bernell Trammell, 60, a dreadlocked activist known for carrying handmade signs …
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[27-Jul-20 04:51 PM] Synfag#9241
would be great if CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT... any of those


[27-Jul-20 04:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There still isnt enough information to determine if the murder was politically motivated


[27-Jul-20 04:55 PM] Synfag#9241
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[27-Jul-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a lot of evidence, but not enough known about the suspect to compile that evidence against them


[27-Jul-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cnn, and msnbc tend to wait until a suspect is found before reporting on this type of thing, it makes for a better rated tv story


[27-Jul-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610

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[27-Jul-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Synfag#9241
> cnn, and msnbc tend to wait until a suspect is found before reporting on this type of thing, it makes for a better rated tv story
@prism stryder(intexda) 

the incident itself is already news
not reporting it just because no suspect yet is more of a dick move
a great tactic to memoryhole this murder


[27-Jul-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not saying it;s a good motivation not to air the story, i;m just saying it;s *their* motivation


[27-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Synfag#9241
either way
it will be forgotten at the third day


[27-Jul-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tend to wait until the story gets big and meaty with a lot of details to sink into


[27-Jul-20 05:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and it will probably resurface a dozen times as new information is found


[27-Jul-20 05:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Jul-20 06:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Gotta keep peasants away from your castle


[27-Jul-20 06:40 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze:


[27-Jul-20 06:40 PM] illumnious#7938
Not going to work


[27-Jul-20 06:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
he sure does love walls


[27-Jul-20 07:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in 2 weeks the white house will have a crudely dug moat


[27-Jul-20 07:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Star fort white house


[27-Jul-20 07:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/man-holding-black-lives-matter-sign-in-americas-most-racist-town-gets-pelted-with-nonstop-threats-and-abuse

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Man holding Black Lives Matter sign in ‘America’s most racist town’...
A man holding a “Black Lives Matter” sign in a notorious white supremacist stronghold filmed himself getting pelted with nonstop threats and abuse for hours by passersby. In the video, the man stands on the side of the road in Harrison, Arkansas, which has earned a reputation ...
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[27-Jul-20 07:31 PM] illumnious#7938
WhitePrideRaido.Com


[27-Jul-20 08:07 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1287774843455315968?s=19

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The Guardian (@guardian)
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Why should Elon Musk look after his own baby? He’s already saving humanity https://t.co/mgKpWXLikj
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[27-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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> The Tesla CEO says ‘there’s not much I can do’ to take care of his infant son. What planet is he on?


[27-Jul-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-anti-climb-wall-protests-2020-7

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The White House is building a massive 'anti-climb' wall following p...
The "anti-climb" component for a new White House perimeter has been in the works since July 2016, but construction of the wall has ramped up recently.
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[27-Jul-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1287824348460593154?cxt=HHwWhMC98f7aot8jAAAA

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Elon Musk (@elonmusk)
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Das Kapital in a nutshell
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[27-Jul-20 09:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:tired:


[27-Jul-20 09:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess if I were were several dozen billions I'd spend my time shitposting on twitter as well


[27-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What's the absolute worst that could happen? Even if I lose 99% of my wealth I'd still be a multimillionaire


[27-Jul-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why does the US give Elon any money at all?


[27-Jul-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
As in, the government


[27-Jul-20 10:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because money printer go brrr


[27-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, "creates jobs"


[27-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or probably something dumber like "they pay taxes and that's not good so we should give them money so they don't move to China"


[27-Jul-20 11:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I still don't really understand the use of "job creation" as political currency. Like, at best, it's taking sole credit for an ill-defined metric of "jobs" increasing, seemingly isolated from unemployment and wages


[27-Jul-20 11:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And you never hear it presented in relation to anything else, per capita style or otherwise


[27-Jul-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republican-new-unemployment-insurance-plan-replace-600-boost-2020-7

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Republicans just proposed a new idea for coronavirus unemployment b...
It would enact a temporary $200 supplement to state unemployment checks, then transition to benefits capped at 70% of a jobless person's past wages.
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[28-Jul-20 12:44 AM] illumnious#7938
https://gen.medium.com/all-your-most-paranoid-transfer-of-power-questions-answered-5db70d32373


[28-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Synfag#9241
> Republicans just proposed ...
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand it gets shot down immediately.


[28-Jul-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/drgonzo123/status/1287591800929054720

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Đɇnnɨs Đɇŧwɨłłɇɍ (@drgonzo123)
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America is cooking the books. Shocker.
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[28-Jul-20 01:50 AM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzgzhLmxVTk this is just bizarre

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[28-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Southern Strategy endgame


[28-Jul-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
once you've stolen the Democratic party's base of southern racists, you then say that since the party was racist, it should be destroyed.


[28-Jul-20 02:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"The Democrats are the party of the Confederacy. Unrelated, they want to destroy the proud heritage of the Confederacy!"


[28-Jul-20 02:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm sorry for exposing your recommendation list to these kinds of things.


[28-Jul-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve found that videos on discord dont actually effect my recommends


[28-Jul-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I watch all linked videos in private browsing tabs

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[28-Jul-20 02:40 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Private tabs on a virtual machine :smugcaddy:


[28-Jul-20 02:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[28-Jul-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not using it to hide the fact that I watched the video


[28-Jul-20 02:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm using it to avoid getting related videos recommended to me later, because youtube has tracking that can't be disabled


[28-Jul-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not even concerned that they _are_ tracking me, because their related video recommendations are pretty good most of the time. I just would like to be able to say "disregard that I watched this video" especially in regard to political content because YT keeps trying to force feed me PragerU and Crowder and Thunderfoot and BPS etc. vids that I _don't want to watch and have indicated multiple times that I don't want to watch them_


[28-Jul-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
for someone who isn't using an adblocker, it's even worse, because you get political attack ads and push polls from places like The Daily Wire and those paid for directly by the Trump administration


[28-Jul-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
all the while breadtube gets consistently demonetized for being "not friendly to advertisers"


[28-Jul-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's like a political indoctrination machine over there -- the recommendation algorithm really really seems to want you to get "redpilled"


[28-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Synfag#9241
get a raspberry pi


[28-Jul-20 03:01 AM] Synfag#9241
install pi-hole in it
then make that your dns server


[28-Jul-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I am already using an adblocker for youtube


[28-Jul-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
Though I'm not sure DNS based blocking has been effective for youtube for quite a few years


[28-Jul-20 03:02 AM] Synfag#9241
pi-hole directs the most popular ad domains to 0.0.0.0


[28-Jul-20 03:04 AM] Synfag#9241
and the list is constantly updated


[28-Jul-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not seeing any ads right now


[28-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
it's more of a companion to the usual adblocker


[28-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
not all adnets are covered by pi-hole


[28-Jul-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
This also doesn't solve the more concerning issue of the aggressive video recommendations (as opposed to the ads, which I don't see)


[28-Jul-20 03:08 AM] byte[]#2610
That's why I watch political vids in private browsing only


[28-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Synfag#9241
see Firefox multi-account containers and temporary containers


[28-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Synfag#9241
if you use chrome, ads are unavoidable no matter what


[28-Jul-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I also use multi account containers


[28-Jul-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
A recent update to the system made them incredibly fucking annoying to open new container tabs


[28-Jul-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
now takes like 3 clicks instead of 1 previously, whereas I can very quickly press ^P to open a private browsing session


[28-Jul-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
shit, if that's what it takes for them to wear masks...


[28-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
in fact, it's the perfect form of societal protest.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
do what you're told and express disagreement in a single package.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 AM] Opponent#3498
```for someone who isn't using an adblocker, it's even worse, because you get political attack ads and push polls from places like The Daily Wire and those paid for directly by the Trump administration
all the while breadtube gets consistently demonetized for being "not friendly to advertisers"```
but they're not, are they :twismug:


[28-Jul-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
just in the more... literal sense.


[28-Jul-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/ltmlvk9GAto

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Rob Bliss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmlvk9GAto
Holding a Black Lives Matter Sign in America's Most Racist Town
Throughout filming I received threats of legal action by racists who don't want to be exposed and want to see this video removed. I would greatly appreciate any donations to our legal defense fund:  https://www.gofundme.com/f/BLM-sign-in-Harrison-AK-Legal-Defense-Fund

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[28-Jul-20 04:07 AM] PwnyPony#6185
The average age in this video looks about 40+ something.


[28-Jul-20 04:16 AM] jlun2#8758
is there a tldw? i feel like that vid is enrage bait


[28-Jul-20 04:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Go to the town which has the Ku Klux Klan/KKK headquarters and hold up a black lives matter sign. People get mad at him and start threating him and stuff. In the end someone hands him a positive note.


[28-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I disable my ad block when asked by sites I trust. I also have my blocker turned off on Youtube leading to me sometimes getting wocky Trump ads.


[28-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
But its worth it to support content creators


[28-Jul-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
you should support content creators by sending them money directly


[28-Jul-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
don't legitimize youtube's creepy advertising tracking system for any reason


[28-Jul-20 04:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[28-Jul-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, good if it did get shot down. 'If enacted, the plan would reduce the amount of benefits jobless people are receiving by an average of 44%, according to an estimate from Ernie Tedeschi, a former Treasury Department economist in the Obama administration.'


[28-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Honahue#0656
I served this country and I wear the mask, I really don't understand this infantile "freedom means you can't tell me what to do" mentality it's like conservatives are toddlers


[28-Jul-20 05:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Love it when they say "well i was spanked as a child until i cried which means i'm tough unlike you snowflake millenials!"


[28-Jul-20 05:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Usually the person saying this is very insufferable, paranoid, grating and patronizing

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[28-Jul-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Galaxy brain moment


[28-Jul-20 05:32 AM] Synfag#9241

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[28-Jul-20 05:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Replace "socialist" with "capitalist" and i might consider it valid


[28-Jul-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
It's a conservative meme


[28-Jul-20 05:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I know, lol


[28-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Synfag#9241
> Replace "socialist" with "capitalist" and i might consider it valid
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

if it's about entrepreneurship majors then yes, it's capitalism.
but if it's liberal arts, *underwater basket weaving*, etc. then yeah it's socialist indoctrination


[28-Jul-20 05:39 AM] Synfag#9241
inb4 defending liberal arts


[28-Jul-20 05:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The meme is about middle school, not college


[28-Jul-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And since middle and high school does not really specialize upon its topics, it ends up presenting a simplified narrative when it comes to history and sociology, or so i have heard about the US


[28-Jul-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Contrast this to specialized courses about these topics, in which there is much more time and space allowed for questioning the usual narrative


[28-Jul-20 05:45 AM] Synfag#9241
the concept of *trade* came up naturally throughout human history
capitalism is unavoidable
as long as somebody want to exchange something of value with something else


[28-Jul-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism is not mere trade or exchange, man


[28-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Synfag#9241
sadly, the bad apples argument applies here as well


[28-Jul-20 05:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is a combination of social factors such as private ownership, the commodity form, class hierarchies, etc


[28-Jul-20 05:47 AM] Synfag#9241
and yet it becomes the socialist's favorite broad brush


[28-Jul-20 05:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym by bad apples


[28-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Synfag#9241
I'm sure you are familiar with the image of a stack of wine glasses
where the wine glass at the top grows bigger instead of the wine dripping to the wine glasses at the lower levels


[28-Jul-20 05:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah?


[28-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Synfag#9241
that's how socialism presents capitalism
I can never counter that


[28-Jul-20 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's actually not painting the picture accurately -- money (the wine) doesn't come out of nowhere, it's a result of a process of production, exchange, and capital accumulation


[28-Jul-20 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A more accurate portrayal would be the big wine glass sucking the wine out of the glasses below it


[28-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Synfag#9241
and you blame capitalism for that?


[28-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Synfag#9241
sucking up what's left on the lower level


[28-Jul-20 05:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[28-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The worker creates wealth


[28-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The employer gains the wealth


[28-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
wages and taxes are supposed to return the wealth to the worker, and to giv to those who cannot be the worker.


[28-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, the employer doesn't like this.


[28-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will naturally seek to prevent wages and taxes from being high.


[28-Jul-20 05:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or keep the tax distribution system unfair and corruptible


[28-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is thus in the interest of the worker and those who cannot be the worker or employer to fight.


[28-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The government is the only power above the employer.


[28-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Synfag#9241
have you ever thought that it's the decisions of those at the higher level(employer/management/etc.) causing the problem and not the concept of capitalism?


[28-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It must be the vehicle to keep wages and taxes high.


[28-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
What decisions at what level?


[28-Jul-20 05:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Synfag i considered that thought some times before, but after thorough analysis of history, i came to the conclusion that the system is inherently way too unfavorable towards good and fair governance, thus ensuring that effective government will not last so long as all the other conditions remain


[28-Jul-20 05:59 AM] Synfag#9241
and you think socialism is the alternative?


[28-Jul-20 05:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[28-Jul-20 06:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the capitalist elites have an immutable interest in screwing over the working class for their own profit, then they should be rid of


[28-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Employers will not provide the wealth created by the worker to others in general out of their own kindness.


[28-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some level of government must exist to put a gun to their heads.


[28-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is alleged in laissez-faire capitalism that a minimal government is sufficient because consumers, who act with workers to create wealth, will turn to employers that compensate their workers better, but this is clearly not the case in practice.


[28-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Consumers are often in a bind about where to turn for goods and services, and cannot swing so wildly to alternatives.


[28-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
An employer seeks to use its power to destroy and eat the pieces of other employers.


[28-Jul-20 06:02 AM] wren#0114
that's monopolies


[28-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Synfag#9241
won't socialism make it worse?
because now instead of a stack of wine glasses
it will be two levels
one large wine glass(government)
supported by a bunch of smaller wine glasses(worker class)


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
A government can embezzle too, see the Soviet Union.


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But if a government is actually Democratic, then it will provide its wealth to the masses.


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Synfag if the conditions are correct, then the government and the working class are one and the same, which nullifies your assumption


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There are two main ends of a spectrum of how government operates.


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Synfag#9241
> But if a government is actually Democratic, then it will provide its wealth to the masses.
@Nebbie 

doubt it will happen


[28-Jul-20 06:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an extreme autocracy, the elite gain wealth from the government that it acquires from all.


[28-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an extreme democracy, wealth is given bakk to all.


[28-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a big problem to try to get more democratic government.


[28-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It requires a lot of mechanisms to fight corruption so that elites do not amass power and move things toward autocracy.


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
The US has a special problem with this due to long campaign seasons.


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Synfag#9241
I have a third option in mind
but some of it's ideas have been replicated by socialism already
so you might be familiar with it


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
To keep up the whole season, you need to be able to not work, and to get outside funding for ads etc.


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
This results in 90% of US politicians being non-working-class.


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite the majority of Americans as a whole being working-class.


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Third option?


[28-Jul-20 06:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
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[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The working class will generally support measures to compensate workers fairly, by their very nature.


[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
We need all politicians to be working-class, ideally.


[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
We thus need a shorter campaign season.


[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 months max.


[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
AOC does not just represent a rise in the liberal wing of the Democratic party.


[28-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
She represents a rise in working-class candidates, but this may be fleeting.


[28-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note by the way, non-working-class candidates are often funded by rich donors who represent large companies, especially monopolies.


[28-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Synfag#9241
> Third option?
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 

it was adopted by Mondragon Corporation
and is still in a tug-of-war with socialists on who came up with it first

Distributism
idea is to limit the scale that the *owner* has
a company grows beyond the limit
it is broken down to smaller scale companies or is turned into a co-op
in the case of Mondragon Corporation
it might be the biggest co-op on the planet
wage regulation is in ratios
there is still the management heirarchy
but pay is 3 to 5 times the average paid in the cooperative 
and will never exceed to that
think of it as capitalism but restricted scale of companies and ownerships

big difference to socialism
is that instead of ridding of ownership
there's ownership as much as possible


[28-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
They maintain their monopolies by avoiding legislation against them by exchanging campaign donations for favorable treatment when it comes to writing legislation.


[28-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Synfag#9241
brb lunch


[28-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is what people mean when they say that "lobbying" should end.


[28-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Phelan#7647
I'll probably look into buying a house if the market collapses.


[28-Jul-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if the market collapses, you won't be buying a house from someone who's moving, you'll be buying it from a bank


[28-Jul-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
isn't it amazing how foreclosure works?


[28-Jul-20 06:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Houses shouldn't be bought, and not at such exhorbitant prices and fees as they are in the US. The secondary houses of the wealthy should be expropriated and given to homeless people


[28-Jul-20 06:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Bad plan, mostly because summer homes are ill-suited for destitute people to live in


[28-Jul-20 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The location and amenities are all designed around being rich, from how the kitchen is laid out to the *requirement* to have a car to even get anywhere out the front door


[28-Jul-20 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well then


[28-Jul-20 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dismantle them and use the materials to build housing complexes :P


[28-Jul-20 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's the crazy thing: We don't really need to demolish and rebuild to solve the greater part of the housing crisis


[28-Jul-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A lot of urban space in particular goes unused because of either zoning, landlords, or a lack of upkeep...and it's only gonna happen more now that companies realize that telecommuting is a cheaper, more productive alternative to office space


[28-Jul-20 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Add gentrification, and what you're probably going to see within 20 years is that people above the poverty line but below the 1% are going to gravitate back towards urban centers and suburbs are going to become more populated per capita with the elderly and people living paycheck-to-paycheck


[28-Jul-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially as Levittowns across the US approach 100 years old and the maintenance becomes a real issue, and mcmansions newer than that with shorter lifespans also become dilapidated


[28-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Synfag#9241
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 so I typed it all down above
now I gotta do some errands


[28-Jul-20 06:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I understand what you're getting at, but i might have no time left to reply today tho, i gotta sleep...


[28-Jul-20 06:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@Synfag it does sound pretty good imo.


[28-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Synfag#9241
it's why socialists what to steal the idea and claim it as their own


[28-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Synfag#9241
cooperatives and limited scale companies


[28-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Synfag#9241
Teddy Roosevelt breaking up big companies with a bigger stick than usual


[28-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Synfag#9241
think as if Facebook's scale is now illegal and must now be broken up or be a cooperative


[28-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Synfag#9241
and if Zuck still wants to be head honcho, he can only have 5x pay as the lowest paid worker owner


[28-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Synfag#9241
the worst capitalists you could think off will hate the idea
because they can never be that wine glass on top that hogs most of the wine


[28-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Synfag#9241
and it's actually the socialist's worst nightmare
because it's more owners that what they have in mind

best part is that it's already being done and is working(Mondragon Corporation, etc))
unlike socialism's *"that's not real socialism, this is."* attempts that failed time and time again


[28-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Synfag#9241
if there still needs government intervention
they only need to enforce the limited scaling
that's it, the rest will follow


[28-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Synfag#9241
or it's what the governments should have been


[28-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Synfag#9241
we never would have had a bad image of capitalism in the first place


[28-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Synfag#9241
Teddy was the closest to do that


[28-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Synfag#9241
breaking up the big monopolies


[28-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the biggest pitfall of capitalism, yes. The uncapped scale of an individual entity. It's somewhat different in case of things like Google which due to their nature is... kind of like a public service already, but that can be worked out in case-by-case basis.


[28-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Synfag#9241
funny thing is

> *In 1941, a young Catholic priest, José María Arizmendiarrieta settled in Mondragón, a town with a population of 7,000 that had not yet recovered from the poverty, hunger, exile, and tension of the Spanish Civil War. In 1943, Arizmendiarrieta established a technical college which became a training ground for managers, engineers and skilled labour for local companies, and primarily for the co-operatives. Arizmendiarrieta spent a number of years educating young people about a form of humanism based on solidarity and participation, in harmony with Catholic social teaching, and the importance of acquiring the necessary technical knowledge before creating the first co-operative. In 1955, he selected five young people to set up the first company of the co-operative and industrial beginning of the Mondragon Corporation. The company was called Talleres Ulgor, an acronym derived from the surnames of Usatorre, Larrañaga, Gorroñogoitia, Ormaechea, and Ortubay, known today as "Fagor Electrodomésticos".*

the whole concept was concocted by a Catholic priest

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[28-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Synfag#9241
he really was serious about helping the people in the town of Mondragon


[28-Jul-20 07:15 AM] Synfag#9241
but he knows he have to help them be capable of helping themselves


[28-Jul-20 08:02 AM] Honahue#0656
I think some of the other capitalist made a point about how currently we are kinda shit at handling common resources like fisheries or the atmosphere, if say there was som central authroity that had the ability to regulate things and was controlled by people not the wealthy then there would be extraction of recouces that weren't excesive


[28-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
I mean I'm not going to discount the catholics cause they are catholic, they have a docterine that too much private ownership is harmful


[28-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Honahue#0656
it's really the Calvinist that fuck up things


[28-Jul-20 08:05 AM] Honahue#0656
catholic socialist believed in private property but it was 3 acres and a cow


[28-Jul-20 08:06 AM] Honahue#0656
which tbh sounds like what most ancaps want


[28-Jul-20 08:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> catholic socialist believed in private property but it was 3 acres and a cow
furries make that sound :lewd:


[28-Jul-20 09:16 AM] Phelan#7647
@WingbeatPony I don't care who I buy it from, as long as I buy it during a crash.
Parents bought their current place in 2009, would be nice to have the same situation for the next place


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[28-Jul-20 01:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[28-Jul-20 01:06 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
A religious propaganda


[28-Jul-20 01:07 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Chaste woman can give birth to more clever babies"


[28-Jul-20 01:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i though chinnese religion is a communism


[28-Jul-20 01:10 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
"Scientific studies found that chaste woman can have more clever babies(if a woman has never done sex, she can always give birth to babies that have 20 higher IQ than herself), while non-chaste women's children always have low IQ. "


[28-Jul-20 01:11 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:bigbrain:


[28-Jul-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is too dumb for communism.


[28-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
although I thought only christianity had the fixation on breeding and chastity


[28-Jul-20 01:12 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Actually it's just a Christian propaganda


[28-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
ah. That explains it.


[28-Jul-20 01:14 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It also says if a man cums too much, he's "element of life" will be exhausted

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[28-Jul-20 01:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I know little about Christian... They don't even clop?


[28-Jul-20 01:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on how intense of a christian a person is


[28-Jul-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically masturbation isnt a sin, it;s just heavily frowned upon by the absitinance community that beleives sex is not for pleasure but only for breeding


[28-Jul-20 01:20 PM] Opponent#3498
they do and it fill them with guilt, so they do it harder to wash the guilt away which reinforces it :twismug:


[28-Jul-20 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
it really describes hardline christianity well in general.


[28-Jul-20 01:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
guys i've got an idea for creating super babies


[28-Jul-20 01:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Chinese youths are getting more and more open on doing sex, while our boomers are unhappy to see this, especially Christian


[28-Jul-20 01:28 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's really strange how elder Christians and communists in China always hate all the western ideologies, while Christians and communism are totally western ideologies.


[28-Jul-20 01:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I grew up Christian and I felt *super* guilty about perfectly normal parts of puberty. I'd feel ultra guilty every time I "lusted" and was convinced that I was sinful and depraved for it.


[28-Jul-20 01:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i grew up around a lot of christians despite not beign christian myself, for awhile i was afraid of going to hell for things i did as well


[28-Jul-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and these were the kinds of christians who unironically read chick trax comics


[28-Jul-20 01:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's an abusive belief system.

Like, I'm not even *mad* at the people who indoctrinated me though, because from their point of view they were trying to "save" me. I get why they taught me what they did, but it still messed me up for years.


[28-Jul-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Chick tracts are short evangelical gospel tracts, originally created and published by American publisher and religious cartoonist Jack Chick. Since his death, his company (Chick Publications) has continued to print new tracts using other authors working for the company.
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[28-Jul-20 01:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These freaking things.


[28-Jul-20 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those things are awful


[28-Jul-20 01:32 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I have a furry friend whose mom is a Muslim, who disallow him to buy any plushies or toys


[28-Jul-20 01:32 PM] Synfag#9241
I grew up catholic
and I'm happy it's not latter day saints, any of the protestants, or evangelicals
and definitely not westboro baptist church,


[28-Jul-20 01:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, it obviously varies a lot depending on the follower, but some Muslims hold to a belief that drawing or sculpting or depicting the image of any living thing is sinful.


[28-Jul-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is some guy gave out chick tracts instead of halloween candy


[28-Jul-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that guy was a dick

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[28-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, it gets worse. Like the tracts disguised as money.


[28-Jul-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god those fuckers that leave those as tips for servers

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[28-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Synfag#9241
...wut dat?


[28-Jul-20 01:35 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Most of Chinese people hate Muslims the most in all the religions


[28-Jul-20 01:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i posted a wikipedia page on them above


[28-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
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Tonight Portland Police were near Lownsdale Square Park. A person pointed out a bag to them. Inside the bag Police found loaded rifle magazines and Molotov cocktails
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[28-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-20 01:37 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Magazines?


[28-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that could've been bad.


[28-Jul-20 01:37 PM] Crow#5457
so uh


[28-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
the magazines are covered in fresh orange paint


[28-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
and protesters were throwing orange paint at federal police


[28-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
clips

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[28-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Crow#5457
and the molotov cocktails are in expensive jars that are hard to break


[28-Jul-20 01:38 PM] Synfag#9241
what are you getting at?


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Why would the feds just *leave* a bag full of clips and molotovs on the ground?


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Synfag#9241
let me guess...
the clips/magazines came from the feds?


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Oh wait... magazine here means the box to hold bullets?


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes and its called clips

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[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Crow#5457
@AlchemistLiang, magazines are the bullet containers you insert into guns


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in an attempt to make it look like there was a terrorist situation?


[28-Jul-20 01:39 PM] Synfag#9241
big doubt


[28-Jul-20 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
no, clips are grammatically incorrect


[28-Jul-20 01:40 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
this is a clip


[28-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
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A magazine is an ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a repeating firearm.  Magazines can be removable (detachable) or integral (internal/fixed) to the firearm.  The magazine functions by moving the cartridges stored within it into a position where they ...
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[28-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Crow#5457
this is a magazine


[28-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, well, there you go.


[28-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Opponent#3498
key difference is the presence of spring.


[28-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Crow#5457
but anyway, the paint's wet


[28-Jul-20 01:45 PM] Crow#5457
there's literally no way they could've "just found" the magazines in a bag with wet paint on them


[28-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention the almost entirely empty molotov cocktails


[28-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[28-Jul-20 01:46 PM] Synfag#9241
if it were me, If I want to make the feds look bad
I'll leave a bag of expensive mason jar molotovs and magazines


[28-Jul-20 01:47 PM] Synfag#9241
so when the feds make a sweep
they'll find it
and will surely post it on twitter


[28-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Crow#5457
I see you didn't notice the twitter handle


[28-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Crow#5457
it was portland PD who "found" it, not the feds


[28-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Opponent#3498
why bother doing that when there's ample evidence and 'evidence' to make feds bad already? The mere fact of their presence is enough for those who'd care.


[28-Jul-20 01:48 PM] Synfag#9241
PD then


[28-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Synfag#9241
> why bother doing that 

to win
by any means necessary


[28-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, the feds already look like the bad guys. They don't need to be false-flagged into looking worse.


[28-Jul-20 01:49 PM] Synfag#9241
might as well drag them to oblivion


[28-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Crow#5457
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@faciliheir @PortlandPolice what, you don't make your molotovs as flame-retardant and shatter-resistant as possible?
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[28-Jul-20 01:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Every time they beat up a veteran they drag themselves.


[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Crow#5457
this also wasn't the original tweet, the original tweet said that they just found a bag of those magazines and cocktails randomly, the new tweet claims someone pointed the bag out to the police


[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
mm, yeah, I've used cans with that design. It's... Not what I'd use for a molotov for sure.


[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Synfag#9241
what you want is to destroy their capability of pulling themselves back up


[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Crow#5457
this was the original tweet


[28-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Crow#5457
so they've already changed their story once


[28-Jul-20 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
also, they're beating up moms too, the veterans are just the cherry on top


[28-Jul-20 01:55 PM] Opponent#3498
also to even begin 'pulling themselves up' they'd have to leave as step -1


[28-Jul-20 01:55 PM] Opponent#3498
they aint gonna leave any time soon.


[28-Jul-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They don;t need planted evidence to make them look bad, they did that on their own in plenty of video footage


[28-Jul-20 02:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they also shot a mother center of the forehead with a "less lethal" bullet, so that's likely not helping their image


[28-Jul-20 02:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/v?t=fbpq67rwgp

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[28-Jul-20 02:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
what the heck

Officer tells woman to move; she *does* and then he flips her over as she runs away, despite complying with his directions


[28-Jul-20 02:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Around 20 seconds in


[28-Jul-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
first one's misleading. Too short and there's no reason to call them 'looters'. Vandals or rioters, maybe. This one's better.


[28-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, she was running toward her friends to help them, which still shouldn't necessitate that kind of force


[28-Jul-20 02:17 PM] Opponent#3498
she did try to grab the baton just before that. Not ideal.


[28-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The tackler was defending the man being manhandled by the cops. I don't know if I can condemn that, it wasn't some unprovoked attack.


[28-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's *dumb* to do that to an armed officer, but I don't know if I can ethically say he was wrong.


[28-Jul-20 02:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from where that video started at least, it was the cops who started the aggression


[28-Jul-20 02:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, they started pushing the protester down to the ground. 

I'm against unprovoked attacks, but I'm for self-defense and defending others. I don't think being a cop entitles you to go around assaulting people, so legal or not, I think fighting back when the cops get unnecessarily physical can be justified.


[28-Jul-20 02:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If the tackler had just arbitrarily knocked a cop over for no reason, I'd condemn that though.


[28-Jul-20 02:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you cant defend others


[28-Jul-20 02:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cause when u defend someone from police its count as assaulting an officer


[28-Jul-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it counts as assaulting an officer sure, but it was assault of an officer to defend someone the officer was assaulting first


[28-Jul-20 02:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Still not excuse to attack policeman


[28-Jul-20 02:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That's the only thing making it "wrong" though is that they were an officer


[28-Jul-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the officer wasn't an officer, then tackling them to prevent further assault would have been defensible


[28-Jul-20 02:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That is correct,but im sure cops were provoken by that dude they arrested


[28-Jul-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He was just standing there


[28-Jul-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They didnt even tell him to get back, they just walked up to him, one officer screamed "Don;t touch my eyes!" and then they started shoving him


[28-Jul-20 02:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The guy didnt even touch their eyes


[28-Jul-20 02:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Maybe he did something before,idk,we need a video from cops DVR or longer video from protesters


[28-Jul-20 02:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from the range they were at, the worst he could have done was flip them off


[28-Jul-20 02:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
law != justice


[28-Jul-20 02:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
the law is not a school of ethics and morality, much of it is unjust, it's why dehumanizing people as 'criminals' makes you look like a complete and utter fool


[28-Jul-20 02:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
some criminals should be dehumanized


[28-Jul-20 02:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If he had done something before the filming, the cop wouldn't have had to shout "Don't touch my eyes" in an attempt to justify shoving him to the ground


[28-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes. Yelling "STOP RESISTING" loudly as you pummel a clearly *non*-threatening person is a long and storied strategy to get away with unnecessary force. It's not for the person you're hitting; it's for bystanders, to make it clear that you're framing the assault as justifiable.


[28-Jul-20 02:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
For cops complaining about videos that "don't show the whole story" well, we have a solution for that; it's called body cameras. That thing police keep *turning off* before they start assaulting people


[28-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The thing is, good cops that are being wrongly framed would be *cleared* by their body camera footage. It's a device that protects good cops *and* the people they serve if used correctly.


[28-Jul-20 02:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
isnt wearing a body camera is mandatory?


[28-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes. But cops keep turning them off.


[28-Jul-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, doesn't stop them from turning it off though


[28-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which should automatically incur *severe* penalties. If you turn it off for any reason you should get in major trouble.


[28-Jul-20 02:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It defeats the purpose of the cameras if the officer can just decide not to have them on


[28-Jul-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the body camera thing doesnt do shit in a police administration that doesnt enforce it


[28-Jul-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and you better believe that most wouldn't. You'll get arguments like 'we need the option to get the job done', 'the bleeding hearts won't understand' etc


[28-Jul-20 02:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cops have been documented turning off the cameras to plant drugs or other evidence, and then turning them on again to suddenly find the "evidence"


[28-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ha ha they do same in russia except they usually dont wear any cameras


[28-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If your job is to uphold the law

and you have to break the law to do that

maybe you're not doing your job right


[28-Jul-20 02:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nah dude,we live in a real world,there is no way to do everything "by the book"


[28-Jul-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we live in a dystopian fantasy


[28-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Maybe a tiny bit,but hey few centuries ago things were worse


[28-Jul-20 02:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, yeah.


[28-Jul-20 03:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But the fact that things are better than they used to be should not preclude us from striving to make them better still. We're still a long way off from the ideal.


[28-Jul-20 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
things being better now doesn't mean we should ignore all the problems of today and pat ourselves on the back like we solved all the problems


[28-Jul-20 03:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
poor people who steal shit and damage property do not deserve to be dehumanized


[28-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Our main problem is old geezers in government,they just want to keep status quo


[28-Jul-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If there was a law like u can be a president from 20 to 40 there's gonna be real changes


[28-Jul-20 03:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
dehumanizing criminals is unhelpful at best and inspires more crime in revenge and such at worst


[28-Jul-20 03:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No human should be dehumanized.

We can condemn rioting, but we also have to understand why rioting happens. 

Even from a purely *self*-serving position, if you don't care about these people and just want the rioting to stop, escalating force is not how to do it.


[28-Jul-20 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst part is the age range is in the constitution and it really needs to be ammended


[28-Jul-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
the 'rioters' have demands that need to be met, or it keeps going, simple as that, more force is only escalating and making more people take to the streets


[28-Jul-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"The beatings will continue until morality improves" is not actually a good move to make


[28-Jul-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
hence the boomer mums and vets n shit, they may have not come out before, but now they see the current fucked up shit and decide, that's enough, now I'm involved.


[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
those people would not have come out were cops and feds not escalating violence deliberately


[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you cant negotiate with leftists @dissociativity
we all seen how its end up for derpibooru,and this is gonna happen to rioters too


[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
you only give the protestors credibility when you crack down harder


[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The language of the unheard.

I think that *hearing* what the movement is asking for - which is all incredibly reasonable, by the way - and actually implementing policy based on that, would immediately lower the incidence of rioting.


[28-Jul-20 03:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
the protestors are arguing for real freedoms, not posting nazi shit


[28-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
posting nazi shit is a freedom for me


[28-Jul-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think "Can the police stop being blood thirsty psychopaths" is an unreasonable request


[28-Jul-20 03:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
then you're cringe and lucky enough for that to be something worth worrying about to you lol


[28-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Kneeling bad wait why are you rioting?"


[28-Jul-20 03:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
smug trixie, please don't conflate tumblr drama-scale shenanigans with actual leftism.


[28-Jul-20 03:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
whats the difference?its all the same but on bigger scale


[28-Jul-20 03:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
no, it's really not.


[28-Jul-20 03:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
For one, we have policy goals in mind, like police reform. Are you opposed to that?


[28-Jul-20 03:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
the right to post shit that dehumanizes minorities is in no way comparable to the right to not be executed by people that are supposed to keep you safe.


[28-Jul-20 03:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie bruh


[28-Jul-20 03:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
yelling the N word in public or not isn't meaningfully freedom for anyone who has any real issues in their real life


[28-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Patrions actions have nothing to do with the recent nazi drama


[28-Jul-20 03:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's literally only an issue to extremely online chuds that are like children when they cannot do or say what they want at any time in any context


[28-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
as russian i dont care,but yea there should be police reform,like they shouldnt shoot that much at people


[28-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like choosing positions based on attitude or perceived character like this is a kind of juvenile "lunch table politics." 

"Your side is lame and mean but I'm not going to actually critique your *policy* positions."


[28-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Opponent#3498
I assume you chummy with the cancel crowd on Derpi then Dis? Just wondering.


[28-Jul-20 03:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The protesters have actual points such as: cops should not gas protesters so trump can get a photo op


[28-Jul-20 03:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Don't attack people reporting the protests


[28-Jul-20 03:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or don't shoot people on there porch for being on there porch


[28-Jul-20 03:13 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a binary question yet I feel I'll get a 300+ letter response. Well, I did ask.


[28-Jul-20 03:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's what we want. Actual material change to policy. So far *one* state's done that, with Colorado ending qualified immunity for cops. About 30 others gave some nice statement or renamed a road or painted a mural or did *anything but what we're asking for.*


[28-Jul-20 03:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
as a minority I oppose being dehumanized publicly and it makes me feel uncomfortable in a community that supposedly rallies behind friendship and tolerance.

I used to be anti-censorship and then I met the 'free speech' crowd and found out how many were unironic white nationalists or at least openly shared white nationalist talking points and views, and saw how much bad faith they argued in, that their free speech didn't mean that they wouldn't use it to silence and beat down minorities.


[28-Jul-20 03:13 PM] Synfag#9241
The *Wall of Moms* is a stroke of genius


[28-Jul-20 03:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u prob meet 4channers lul

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[28-Jul-20 03:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
I concluded that they're either petulant children who cried when they couldn't do whatever they wanted to on the internet, or unironic fascists who talk about white genocide and the great replacement, and how antifa are paid soros actors lmao


[28-Jul-20 03:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
there was a lot of them, and they were hardly disavowed


[28-Jul-20 03:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
they weren't worth fighting on the side of as they were objectively terrible people that were astroturfing db


[28-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, and a lot of the time, their free speech isn't even being questioned.

If someone's only defense of their position is that it's not illegal for them to say it, then you're dealing with some real quality arguments.


[28-Jul-20 03:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
you should be able to defend your points, say why they're good ideas and worth saying


[28-Jul-20 03:15 PM] Synfag#9241
attack police
Police have no choice but to take action to clear the crowd
hide behind *Wall of Moms*
take pictures and videos of police clearing out the the *Wall of Moms*
post pictures and videos everywhere
Police looks stupid now

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[28-Jul-20 03:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you just hate minorities that's not really an acceptable reason


[28-Jul-20 03:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
if something's a joke it needs a punchline, it needs to be funny, the joke can't be 'wow that's offensive'


[28-Jul-20 03:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The police already verifiably attack people unnecessarily though. You don't need to "make them look bad."


[28-Jul-20 03:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag the cops don't need help looking stupid


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Synfag#9241
same strategy works as well on interlocking *Veterans*


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
humor is about actually being funny


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Humor is subjective


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Synfag#9241
> The police already verifiably attack people unnecessarily though. You don't need to "make them look bad."
@Dr. Mechano 

but strategy still works tho


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
haha I was merely pretending to be a white nationalist I was just joking is not a joke lol


[28-Jul-20 03:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think nazi humor can be funny, but for me, it's only when it's at the expense of the nazis.


[28-Jul-20 03:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like comedy that makes them look foolish and absurd.


[28-Jul-20 03:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
exactly.
I literally don't care about aryanne, I care about the genuinely awful people using her as a tool, if they didn't exist, she wouldn't have been an issue.


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
and lots of these people, these genuinely awful people who were genuinely white nationalists act really polite and claim to merely be moderates in public, while showing off milder forms of their talking points, they just 'ask questions'


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
so you _are_ aligned with cancel crowd after all, to punish people you see as awful. Fair enough.


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think they ever expressed a desire to punish anyone.


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Same,i dont care about aryanne but its not only her thats been used as tool,just look up for BLM or ACAB on derpiboru


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's not people I see as awful, or people I simply 'disagree with'


[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[28-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the people you hate with every fibre of your being. Yes, it's honestly the same to me.


[28-Jul-20 03:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
It is people who genuinely hold genocidal views and believe people like me should not exist, these are not opinions worth exposing to oxygen.


[28-Jul-20 03:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you're debating people who don't see you as human you lose from the start.


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent you asked a loaded question


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
and these people put masks on to attract centrists, crypto-fascism is a real, documented phenomenon, but you go to their discords sneakily and you see them mask come off pretty quickly.


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think all hate is equal.

If you hate someone for something in-born and unchangeable, that's totally different from hating them for something they consciously choose to do. Now, I'm not saying either is necessarily *desirable* but I think it's naive oversimplification to say that hating racists is somehow "the same" as hating people based on race.


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Synfag#9241
remember when white people were treated as human and not as the source of all problems imaginable for existing

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[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
noone thinks this, this is made up shit


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@Gordon Freeman there are three sides. The 'attackers', the 'defenders', and the 'innocent' bystanders.


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Synfig, bad faith, bad faith


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
some twitter person crying about white people isn't a real figure with power.


[28-Jul-20 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
I wanted to see which side Dis represents. I think I got my answer.


[28-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Which side," the sides being what?


[28-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Synfag I guess never,lol


[28-Jul-20 03:22 PM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano the attack on Derpi, which prompted people to start packing up.


[28-Jul-20 03:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
I represented the 'free speech' crowd for a while, then I found out who many of them were, and innocent people were roped into supporting them.


[28-Jul-20 03:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
they rely on ignorance to astroturf their bigotry, plausible deniability.


[28-Jul-20 03:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
your ignorance is a clear example of it.


[28-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah no thats still a loaded qustion. You wanted to bait him into saying he was either a hioppocrite or a cancle culture member


[28-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also, look, I'm sorry. I don't *agree* with the performative self-effacing "all whites are bad" shit but you have to understand that is not a mainstream leftist position. Some cringey tumblr teens being mean to you doesn't represent an actual institutional attack on white people.


[28-Jul-20 03:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
you realize datte is pretty much a white nationalist behind closed doors right?


[28-Jul-20 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/white-supremacists-posing-as-blm-protesters-instigated-richmond-riots-police/

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[28-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
a bystander was an option. @Gordon Freeman


[28-Jul-20 03:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
he's very reasonable and polite in more public spaces, but make no mistake, he holds many white nationalist views.


[28-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag remember when people said that wight people bad? Beacuse i don't


[28-Jul-20 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
and the question was pretty open, I didn't offer any choices. A narrow 'yes' and a broad 'no'.


[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
he is also the main ringleader behind the 'free speech' side


[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> it's a binary question yet I feel I'll get a 300+ letter response. Well, I did ask.
@Opponent


[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
so?


[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Synfag#9241
#cancel culture was the biggest hole ever discovered in the free speech argument

digging for past sins
propping up any connection to anything politically incorrect

... all protected by free speech

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[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Opponent#3498
```A narrow 'yes' and a broad 'no'.```


[28-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Caw, it happens but it's pretty much the far fringes. Trying to frame it as a mainstream position held by anyone who matters is intellectually dishonest.


[28-Jul-20 03:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
the free speech side perhaps should have made an effort to distance themselves from white nationalists, but they didn't, they did the opposite in fact, muddied the waters.


[28-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>binary question
>i didnt offer a yes or no choice

Witch is it


[28-Jul-20 03:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
there could have been another side, free speech but fuck nazis.


[28-Jul-20 03:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I didn't offer CHOICES. Specifically. I didn't say 'are you with SJWs or with free speech advocates'.


[28-Jul-20 03:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
free speech advocates sounds much kinder than sjws, all about the framing you see


[28-Jul-20 03:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
because that's not really what the movement was.


[28-Jul-20 03:27 PM] Opponent#3498
true, I'm biased. I turned from the bystander into a defender, rallying around a symbol I really don't care about.


[28-Jul-20 03:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
same


[28-Jul-20 03:27 PM] Opponent#3498
such is life though. US and their nazi witch hunts hurt everyone else.


[28-Jul-20 03:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
the demographics leading it say otherwise, the useful idiots dragged along provide plausible deniability.


[28-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Synfag#9241
if you are in the 'free speech' crown
then you also have to accept
that people posting other people's past info that make them look bad
is within the domain of 'free speech'


[28-Jul-20 03:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
noo you can't call people who think the great replacement is real and believe in the 14 words and want to start ethnostates nazis noooo you can't call anyone you disagree with a nazi


[28-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah yes beacuse its the people going after nazis that are makeing the us bad


[28-Jul-20 03:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And not the karens who say whereing masks are communism


[28-Jul-20 03:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
karens(gender neutral)


[28-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
btw is there any recent demographic statistics of US?I wonder what percent of whites US have

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[28-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My position is kind of longwinded, but the tl;dr is this:

- I support everyone's *legal* right to free speech. You shouldn't get arrested for drawing a nazi horse. And indeed, in America, you would not be.

- I also support private platforms' right to have a TOS and ban whatever they want, though. It is not an attack on free speech if a private community bans certain content.

If derpibooru or Youtube or Nintendo or any other private entity curates their content and only allows certain things, that is not a violation of anyone's "rights."

I feel like trying to frame free speech as "I can post whatever I want anywhere with no rules" is super reductive.


[28-Jul-20 03:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
my guess is like 50-60


[28-Jul-20 03:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
melanin counts literally don't matter, US is built on immigration and if it didn't want immigration it wouldn't keep having CIA backed military dictatorships coup democratically elected governments south of it


[28-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano yes. The problem is when an outside entity tries to force the TOS change and/or policy enforcement protocols with threats of force.


[28-Jul-20 03:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
having right wing death squads patrol the area and killing anyone suspected of being a leftist, and having pits of bodies still not found today throughout the continent south of mexico for a century or so does that


[28-Jul-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
people tend to want to leave shitholes that are shitholes because american fruit companies wanted to make more money from cheap labour and denying human rights


[28-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That description is also reductive, since this all started when TSP - an *inside* entity - wanted to change the policy, before a huge back-and-forth happened with the staff.

Derpibooru can do whatever it wants either way, I'm just saying none of this had anything to do with freedom of speech.


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[28-Jul-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
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[28-Jul-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano from my understanding it started primarily with Twitter rage and at least one article about nazi bronies pointing at Derpi. I'd be _really_ suprised if TSP did that to himself.


[28-Jul-20 03:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Welp i was almost right


[28-Jul-20 03:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that article is free speech too. TSP responded to it the way he did by choice.


[28-Jul-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
because if he did want to do that, he could just _do_ it. The mod team was split on the issue.


[28-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Opponent#3498
so free speech is trying to steer the angry BLM crowd onto Derpi to satisfy your wants.


[28-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Really, my opinion is that the whole thing was a shitshow. Pick a position and stick with it instead of flip-flopping four or five times.


[28-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Opponent#3498
ooooookay then. I guess my brand of free speech is different than yours.


[28-Jul-20 03:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Opponent


[28-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> a bystander was an option. @Gordon Freeman
@Opponent bruh even with that being an option its still a loaded question being that you could just say "well your hipoctical for being a bystander and not voiceing your opinion"


[28-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You just did the *"So you're saying"* thing. Come on now, man. Come on, be better than that.


[28-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```Well, that article is free speech too. TSP responded to it the way he did by choice.```


[28-Jul-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for nazis, america has a literal nazi problem. We have literal nazi marches where people march with swastikas and shit. When we talk about nazis, we mean literal nazis


[28-Jul-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
the article had the obvious intent I described, it didn't appear when it did by _pure coincidence_.


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nowhere did an opinion piece say "Hey, go to this website and do a thing."


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
so, where am I wrong?


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie bruh


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
or are we playing the 'you can't prove I did what I did' game?


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Think about the logical conclusion of what you're saying.


[28-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
if so, I have to concede. I don't have the confession in writing, with only a few drops of blood on the side.


[28-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Are you really going for the "wights are going to be a minorty" fearmongering shit?


[28-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anyone publicly criticizes *anything*, they run the risk of people going to that site or that person. Is public criticism off the table now?


[28-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
off the table? No. Does it make the one issuing the criticism the enemy of the platform/community? Absolutely.


[28-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nah,i just wanted to look at statistics and according to statistics its true,same for europe btw


[28-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I cannot _forbid_ people use the weapons they have. I can simply condemn and fight them.


[28-Jul-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
although, to be fair, I didn't do heck of a lot of fighting there. Got too late to the party for that.


[28-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I'm saying is that writing a negative opinion about a website is free speech just as much as drawing a horse is. Both are your legal right to do.


[28-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAQing%20off

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The act of asking leading questions to influence your audience, then hiding behind the defense that they're "Just Asking Questions," even when the underlying assumptions are completely insane.


[28-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Opponent#3498
okay. So, it's not illegal. Yeah, none of what was going on was.


[28-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sure but is it bad thing to show oblivious facts?


[28-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there we go. That's the sole question of what is and isn't free speech: Legality.


[28-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Facts are fine but in this context its just JAQing off


[28-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
ok cawer


[28-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
TSP choosing to take Aryanne down would have also been him exercising *his* free speech to run his website as he saw fit. Ultimately he decided to defer to the staff and not do that, which is also within his rights.


[28-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But regardless of what decision was made, nobody's rights were being violated.

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[28-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
*decided to defer to the staff* :wheeze:


[28-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> remember when white people were treated as human and not as the source of all problems imaginable for existing
 And then you reacted with sad pep


[28-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now, if TSP had - I don't know - sent troops to the homes of anyone who ever drew Aryanne and captured them, then yes, he'd be violating your rights and I'd be rather cross with him for it.


[28-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Gordon Freeman that makes me white supermacist,right?


[28-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah this is cleary JAQing off


[28-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
warc is just paranoid


[28-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No. You are just jaqing off


[28-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Opponent#3498
wonderful. The word of law was upheld. The spirit was thoroughly violated, because by the spirit of the law, by the function it performed regardless of it's legal status, Derpi was a public archive, with the goal of having as broad limits as possible, barring only unrelated and extremely low-effort content.


[28-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
then people jacking off to their percieved morality came, in more ways than once. R I P.


[28-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The spirit was not violated because it was not a "public" archive. It's always been privately owned and has always had a TOS.

The only way a website could ever be truly "censorship-free' is if it literally had no rules, except for maybe ones to prevent outright crimes.


[28-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Opponent#3498
well, clearly it wasn't in retrospect.


[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how the community treated it though.


[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
what is your point dr, that teaspoon did nothing wrong at all?

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[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No, we're arguing over free speech, not TSP


[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Public archive" that was makeing money. Priviet business that can do what it wants


[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Opponent#3498
that everyone was right and destroying communities is the natural outcome of free speech.


[28-Jul-20 03:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
TSP did all kinds of things wrong.

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[28-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
whether it was making money or not is hardly relevant. The function it performed in regards of community was a compherensive archive. For better and worse.


[28-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but it still belongs to its owners. Just like other large platforms - despite cultivating communities - still belong to theirs and still have a TOS.


[28-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It is incredibly relevant. If you are doing something for profit it is a business.


[28-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It wouldn't matter even if  it wasn't for profit. If you own a community, you have the right to decide what its rules are. Period.


[28-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
derpi never meant to be for profits,its all for horses goddamnit


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Opponent#3498
and a business must cater to angry crowds demanding their undivided attention and obedience.


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's fine to *disagree* with those decisions


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If not then its a non profit. Both cases its a private entity that can do what it wants to in the free market


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But saying that it "violates the spirit of free speech" isn't right. Free speech is the ability to run *your* site your way, after all.


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even if your community gets mad at you for it.


[28-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Opponent#3498
no, that's the _word_ of free speech.


[28-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Opponent#3498
you seem to be deliberately conflating the two.


[28-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Dr. Mechano @Opponent. No thats the freedom of the open market


[28-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
To run your business the way you want to

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[28-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sure, he could run his site the way he wanted to. Would totally lose his face though.


[28-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well. Assuming you're right, he has the right to lose his face. It's his face to lose.


[28-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Opponent#3498
okay. That's TSP. His face, his life. Okay. So what's the solution then?


[28-Jul-20 03:51 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yep. People just asked staff to not do certain things and expressed their disapproval. No one question ownership.


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, and that's fine.


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You can disagree with that idea but he can do it.


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Opponent#3498
we the people, forgive me the term, don't want US identity stuff and nazi witch hunts to hurt our horses. What's the solution for us to achive it?


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent run your business how you want to.


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Opponent#3498
wonderful.


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Criticizing the staff is *more* than fine. I was just objecting to framing this as a free speech issue because it isn't one.

One solution would be to create an alternative platform, which hey - some people did!


[28-Jul-20 03:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Make your own choices


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>You can disagree with that idea but he can do it.

This one person said I can't use bot to post certain arts in #bot-spam 
So he is a hypocrite.

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[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bruh


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's a non-solution then because it's destined to repeat the same cycle until an owner with enough balls to stand up to hecklers is found.


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Another solution of course is to try to debate with the staff and convince them to see things your way, which others have done to some effect.


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Arguing in bad faith.


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That is entry unrelated and you know that.


[28-Jul-20 03:53 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Related. Those are your principles.


[28-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I have all rights to use bots just like you do. You said I can't. Just because.


[28-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Then accused me of doing it to annoy you.


[28-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bullshit. You know at the time I had a bad reaction to that shit and I asked you to stop it beacuse it bothered me.


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yet you kept on doing it to spite me


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Who gives a crap what bothers you. It is my right to use the bot.


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i dont like that caw spam u doing sometimes but i dont tell you what to do bro


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twithisshit:

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[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie thats difrrent


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Asking you to stop isn't the same thing as saying you can't.


[28-Jul-20 03:55 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Of coooourse.


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how thats different


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh right now I'm feeling the socialism and the concept of declaring certain large enough institutions public services. Although that would simply transfer ownership and didn't solve the problem. In the end, we simply can't have good things because selfish moralising assholes.

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[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You don't know me or how I reacted to that shit


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Opponent#3498
#feels.


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
One is "I would prefer you not do that, please don't" and the other is "I *forbid* you from doing it"


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I know. You reported me to mods.


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, did you break the rules?


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Rule 0


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No. But I was accused of doing it.


[28-Jul-20 03:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess rule 0


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cause it could apply to anything,dumb rule btw


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You where doing it out of spite knowing that I dont like it


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is like me saying I have PTSD related to crows.
And demanding Crow to stop posting crows.


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Opponent, socialism doesn't want that.


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I had fucking panic attacks and nightmares for years.


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So it is rule#0 if Crow refuses.


[28-Jul-20 03:57 PM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano but it would be useful tbh.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Opponent#3498
it's certainly not a capitalist solution, so it has to be something else.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Socialism doesn't mean private businesses don't exist; it means they're worker-owned. 

Twitter wouldn't "go to the users" it would just - as a company - be collectively owned by its workers.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got diagnosed with a mental health issue.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which would still have a TOS and rules.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Opponent#3498
Twitter wouldn't qualify, there are alternatives. Google might.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Pls.


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Want to see my medcation?


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats sucks caw but why hooy should care,you can just block a bot or something


[28-Jul-20 03:58 PM] Opponent#3498
see, the question isn't about having rules. It's about having rules arbitrarily changed. And/or enforcement protocol because the end result is the same.


[28-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie you can't block the bot


[28-Jul-20 03:59 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You can lmao

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[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But it is about rules. Because accusations of corporate censorship are entirely based on those corporations' rules banning or restricting certain content.


[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok you can but why should I have to block a bot when you can just not look up that image


[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The only way for all content to be allowed is to just dispense with private sites having any kind of TOS.


[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or you know just use #nsfw-bot-spam


[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Opponent#3498
again. The problem isn't the rules. It's about arbitrary sudden changes to them.


[28-Jul-20 04:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And why you say me to not look up something. And why can't I say you the same thing?


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not against any rules and sometimes people want to see "extreme" content


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Im on this discord and have access to the bot


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse you dont have ocd.


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You are very biased in all your judgments.


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
of course we could ask mods to make a channel like extreme-bot-spam for that purpose but thats seems like way too easy solution


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what causes the absolute majority of grief. A booru that doesn't allow anything but screencaps would raise eyebrows but no ill will, people will avoid it and that'd be the end of that. Now Derpi suddenly not allowing anything but screencaps would raise a tsunami.


[28-Jul-20 04:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I do. You have no god damm clue what its like to be me.


[28-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Your pain is larger than mine. Of course.
And more important too.


[28-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
We dont know anything about anyone


[28-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that if people are dissatisfied with a site implementing its rules, you don't need government intervention to *force* them to adopt a sort of "neutrality." 

Create *competition.* Make something that you think will be even better.


[28-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm not biased in my arguments.


[28-Jul-20 04:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Quit making this a personal attack.


[28-Jul-20 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
it's about... I don't really know how to word it, informed expectations I suppose. When an arbitrary change happens, people feel mislead, and it's an awful feeling.


[28-Jul-20 04:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am calling you out on not upholding those principles you preach.


[28-Jul-20 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
laws don't care about feeling, unless you're in UK, but the law is by far the least problem in this situation.


[28-Jul-20 04:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I do tho


[28-Jul-20 04:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, it sucks, but I don't think there's much the government can or should do about it.


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
You attacked @Smug Trixie too. Called him a white supremacist.


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
well false advertisement for commercial products is a crime.


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Stoopedhooy when the fuck did i do that


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't the same, but it's _close_.


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Im sure he's only implied

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[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I said "no you are JAQing off"


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
still, the government wasn't involved in this in any way. That wasn't my problem either.


[28-Jul-20 04:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
False advertisement is a crime, but changing rules on a website isn't false advertisement. Especially when your TOS *already* says that rules are subject to change.


[28-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
First word in that centince being no


[28-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sure. You just asked questions. Right, warc?

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[28-Jul-20 04:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That was a statement.


[28-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I never called him a wight supremacist.


[28-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Our *country's* rules are subject to change. We've got amendments, these bad boys that fundamentally changed the Constitution. 

So I think if a private site wants to change their rules, that's also fine.


[28-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Undead supremacist.


[28-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Opponent#3498
changing the rules drastically, redefining the entire nature of the project... Not a crime, no, but a horrible decision from both business and social standpoint. I probably don't need to remind you of Tumblr. Derpi went through something similar just now, if less complete and total in it's devastation.


[28-Jul-20 04:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure. I think the porn ban was stupid, *but* - and hear me out here - I also would oppose the government stomping in and *forcing* Tumblr to put the porn back.

And I *want* the porn back.


[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i think caw have dyslexia


[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I suck at spelling. I know.


[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just don't think that's the right way to do it.


[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
you keep thinking about government and the 1st and all that. This is not what I'm trying to tell you.


[28-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But I never called Smug a supremacist.


[28-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, you brought up the whole "If a site's big enough then they should be considered a public space" thing.


[28-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He made some weird assumptions and was JAQing off. But he is not a supremacist.

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[28-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Opponent#3498
I admitted it wouldn't prevent this from happening in the same sentence.


[28-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ok.


[28-Jul-20 04:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, sorry, sorry. I misunderstood.


[28-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
~~yet~~

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[28-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twismug:


[28-Jul-20 04:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Right well im going to go get breakfast


[28-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
bone apple tea


[28-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ty its going to be pizza


[28-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Opponent#3498
not the point, really, it's not. What I'd expect, naive as it might be in the world of US business and internet and all, some form of moral responsibility from the owners before their community. Thinking of what the crowd wants, not what the screaming hobo with 'THE END IS NIGH' board out in the street corner wants, first.


[28-Jul-20 04:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it also usually happens to be a good business attitude long-term, if you rely on the community in any way at all.


[28-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do y'all treat derpibooru as european or usa site?


[28-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe. But if the owners' personal convictions are particularly strong one way or the other, I could see how that might sway them more than what their users are saying.


[28-Jul-20 04:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
USA


[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I think people treat it as US business yeah.


[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Horse fucking is banned in europe :lul:

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[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's banned in... *most* of our states.


[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just wanted to say that.


[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
which is kind of stupid if you think about it, but evidently someone felt the need to codify it.


[28-Jul-20 04:12 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also it is not banned in Russia iirc.


[28-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nothing is banned in russia if cops doesnt see you


[28-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:twiright:


[28-Jul-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much, yeah.


[28-Jul-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-john-lewis-capital-rotunda-washington-dc-joe-biden-a9640886.html?amp

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Donald Trump, who in recent weeks has stirred racial tensions, says he has no plans to visit the late Congressman John Lewis as the civil rights icon lies in state at the US Capitol. "No I won't be
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[28-Jul-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhh... Donald? You didn't have to say it...


[28-Jul-20 04:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jason-rapert-coronavirus-hoax-face-mask-arkansas-asa-hutchinson-a9640156.html

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[28-Jul-20 04:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 04:59 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 05:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you don't work yet still eat


[28-Jul-20 05:48 PM] Synfag#9241

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[28-Jul-20 05:56 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Aw yes, broken windows, the best defense against intruders, you see, broken windows are like krytonite to thieves.


[28-Jul-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so many glass cuts


[28-Jul-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other side is doused in lemon juice


[28-Jul-20 06:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/604/thisisbait.png

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[28-Jul-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/white-supremacists-posing-as-blm-protesters-instigated-richmond-riots-police/

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White supremacists posing as BLM protesters instigated Richmond rio...
White supremacists posing as Black Lives Matter protesters instigated riots that broke out over the weekend in Virginia. Six people were arrested during the unrest, which was billed as a “Richmond Stands With Portland” rally, and law enforcement officials confirmed the violenc...
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[28-Jul-20 06:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"bUt gUYs ItS onLY ThE bLm WhO aRe RiOtInG"


[28-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Synfag#9241
of course this becomes headline news everywhere


[28-Jul-20 07:16 PM] Synfag#9241
||still crickets on Bernell Trammell's murder||


[28-Jul-20 07:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have yet to see it in many places, but sure, *that;s the important part of this*


[28-Jul-20 07:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
would you care about bernell trammell if he wasnt a trump supporter?


[28-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Synfag#9241
there it is again.


[28-Jul-20 07:18 PM] Synfag#9241
the "yes, but..." bait


[28-Jul-20 07:19 PM] Synfag#9241
the indefensible cutoff


[28-Jul-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so you dont really have an answer then


[28-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Synfag#9241
> would you care about bernell trammell if he wasnt a trump supporter?
@prism stryder(intexda) 

you know that that's not my point.
and yet you will push that
you want to dictate where I side in


[28-Jul-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your point is that "liberal media" isnt reporting on it because he was a black trump supporter who was murdered


[28-Jul-20 07:21 PM] Synfag#9241
what I see is it's obviously being ignored because the guy is a trump supporter


[28-Jul-20 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/509373-teachers-union-authorizes-strikes-if-schools-reopen-without-certain-safety

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[28-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Synfag#9241
siding with the teachers on this one


[28-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Synfag#9241
because of the safety of the teachers
seeing the age range most affected by COVID19


[28-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag murder is bad White Supremacists provoking riots is worse


[28-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And the teachers are right to strike


[28-Jul-20 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are plenty of things i see in local news that frustrate me when national news doesnt cover it however you have to have patience, this shit takes time and only giving it 4 days because conservative media jumped on it immediately, is pure impatience


[28-Jul-20 07:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
give the investigation time to play out, if it makes national news, it will make national news


[28-Jul-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if not, then watch the local news and tell others about it


[28-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Synfag#9241
timing it now
which comes first
the waipipo supremacist story
or the murder story


[28-Jul-20 07:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
msnbc is dumb anyway, why do you care about them?


[28-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Synfag#9241
betting on the waipipo blm story


[28-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Whats even worse then all of that is cops: supresing media, gasing protesters so Trump gets a photo op with someone elses bible upside down and cops shooting people standing on there own property. Oh and cops killing unarmed black people for allegedly useing fake money.


[28-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) actuly msnbc is allright


[28-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/nbc-news/

Mmm look at that factual reporting

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[28-Jul-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their news segments are fine, my problem with the station is msot of it is taken up by pundit commentary


[28-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eh fair enough. I take all news opinion ardicals left or right out to the trash.


[28-Jul-20 07:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the onyl thing to really comment on with the murder story is that he was a black Trump supporter, which conservative media can lathc onto and make it a massive bullet point. but that;s harder to do with a station liek msnbc who kinda needs a suspect to discuss


[28-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Synfag#9241
Bill Barr House Judiciary shitshow happened
Barr gets bombarded by loaded yes/no questions


[28-Jul-20 07:36 PM] Synfag#9241
so many uhhh, ummmm, ahhhh, hmmmm, etc.


[28-Jul-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Today we'll be discussing the murder of a black trump supporter, what can we discuss today other than he was a black Trump supporter when that;s all the information we have?"


[28-Jul-20 07:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag Anyway your still looking at this wrong. His murder (allaged at this point in time correct me if im wrong) is still news worthy. But the riots being provoked by the wight supremacists is major news. The years of neglect to adopt police reform that lead to the murder of an alaged fake money user who was cooperating with police and was still murdered by him and Trump useing this as an excuse to jack boot under the guise of ""law and order"" is bigger.


[28-Jul-20 07:39 PM] Synfag#9241
> But the riots being provoked by the wight supremacists is major news

I already said it's gonna be the major news
what more do you want?


[28-Jul-20 07:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the murder story works on the local level because local news doesnt need commentary, National tv like msnbc needs soemthing to discuss other thna what little information we have at rpesent


[28-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Synfag#9241
the murder story is already a lost cause


[28-Jul-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no it;s been 4 days! Case closed everybody the investigation is pointless now!"


[28-Jul-20 07:40 PM] Synfag#9241
I'm already more curious about with the waipipo story


[28-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Synfag#9241
would be great if more details revealed


[28-Jul-20 07:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm saying that your framing this wrong and comparing a reltvly smaller scale murder with years of pent up anger and faillure to adapt by the police is not the greatest equlvince


[28-Jul-20 07:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah the supremacists starting riots. Thats fucked up


[28-Jul-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a large group of people trying to frame an entiremovement for a riot is pretty fucking bad as well


[28-Jul-20 07:44 PM] Synfag#9241
> years of pent up anger


[28-Jul-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
about 400 years actually, this racial tension has been going on a fucking long ass time


[28-Jul-20 07:45 PM] Synfag#9241
big dopamine hit when waipipo cause the problem now on major news


[28-Jul-20 07:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no it was a white supremacist group, this means we;re calling all white people racist!


[28-Jul-20 07:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[28-Jul-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we surely feel good about framed riots


[28-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Synfag#9241
> about 400 years actually

that explains the sins of the fathers curse


[28-Jul-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-george-floyd-rioting/571932272/

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[28-Jul-20 07:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

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[28-Jul-20 07:51 PM] Synfag#9241
so Police identified the waipipo from a past incident where he was wearing waipipo garb


[28-Jul-20 07:52 PM] Synfag#9241
umbrella man


[28-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Synfag#9241
I use waipipo as short for white supremacist if anybody is confused by my previous posts


[28-Jul-20 07:54 PM] Synfag#9241
it's shorter to type


[28-Jul-20 08:02 PM] Synfag#9241
so many possible explanations for umbrella man to be there
but I'm sticking to what everybody wants
being the waipipo posing as blm
and even if more details revealed
this is what sticks better in mainstream
occam's razor
it's so simple


[28-Jul-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
footage showed him literally trying to smash a window


[28-Jul-20 08:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why he;s known to people


[28-Jul-20 08:03 PM] Synfag#9241
what I'm talking about is the motive


[28-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Synfag#9241
for all we know he might even be a recent antifa/blm convert
or an accelerationist not siding with anybody and just wants the world to burn

but those are complicated


[28-Jul-20 08:05 PM] Synfag#9241
the simpler reason is most likely to be the case
being the waipipo posing as blm


[28-Jul-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
an accelerationist would still be posing as a protestor to make it look like the protestors were rioting


[28-Jul-20 08:09 PM] Synfag#9241
or maybe umbrella man is some rando hopping back and forth on whichever he sees as the winning side


[28-Jul-20 08:10 PM] Synfag#9241
still, that's a too complicated scenario so it's too unlikely


[28-Jul-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given what the protestors are protesting against, why is it so hard to see white supremacists getting involved?


[28-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Synfag#9241
I'm leaning on occam's razor on this one
since there's solid evidence already like you said
only void I see is the motive
so I'll lean on the simpler explanation instead


[28-Jul-20 08:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/509393-senate-gop-criticizes-inclusion-of-fbi-funding-in-coronavirus-bill

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[28-Jul-20 08:19 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sounds like Trump is testing how much he can push for more crakking down on things being slipped in to crisis relief stuff.


[28-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Crow#5457
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[28-Jul-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was apparently something airforce related as well but i havent found any news on that yet


[28-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
police come with guns and shields, no problem


[28-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
protesters come with shields, they're obviously looking for a fight


[28-Jul-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-parscale-guilfoyle-spending-complaint-ads-fec-2020-7

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[28-Jul-20 08:43 PM] Synfag#9241
...
a livestream happened recently
and then it disappeared...
that is all.


[28-Jul-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/509322-watch-live-attorney-general-william-barr-to-appear-before-the-house

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Attorney General William Barr is slated to testify before the House Judiciary Committee this morning.He is expected to blast Democrats, accusing them of falsely seeking to paint him as a Trump loyalist and challenging them to denounce violence in Portland, Ore.
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[28-Jul-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[28-Jul-20 09:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
I would argue that opening schools is a bit more dire than some political convention, and thus it makes sense (sort of) that they'd want schools to open and not the conventions.
Still, they shouldn't reopen until cases aren't rising anymore.


[28-Jul-20 10:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck it https://twitter.com/floridacrazyy/status/1288202761226649609?s=21

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[28-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They need the proles to be free of taking care of their kids so they can go back to work at the factories, shops, and McD's


[28-Jul-20 10:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those at the top know it's an absurd risk but they can avoid it themselves


[28-Jul-20 10:51 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690803935719456788/737640632025088070/116281642_2749713598642676_1431861549465389824_n.jpg

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[28-Jul-20 10:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://hw-videos.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2020/07/ihCVzjHtDVKi.mp4

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[28-Jul-20 11:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Oh noooooo


[28-Jul-20 11:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Wtf


[28-Jul-20 11:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Fucking don’t dumbass


[28-Jul-20 11:45 PM] wren#0114
stop you're giving me a deepfakes fetish


[28-Jul-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
qq


[28-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
implying twitter consciously chooses trending topics and it's not just algorithmically based on what people are saying


[28-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Very old president doesn't know how to computer, news at 11


[28-Jul-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Jul-20 11:57 PM] wren#0114
alternatively, allow cashiers to do that too


[28-Jul-20 11:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. "Disrespecting an officer" is not a crime. It's free speech.

If you're just being rude, you haven't broken the law.


[29-Jul-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/27/housing-inequality-coronavirus/


[29-Jul-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
> The affluent are taking advantage of the cheapest mortgage rates in history to buy bigger homes. Meanwhile, renters face more job losses and fear eviction.


[29-Jul-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
what a surprise


[29-Jul-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is kinda what I was driving at with my comment earlier about how if you buy a cheap home in a housing market crash, you won't be buying it from a homeowner, you'll be buying it from a bank - implying, I thought, that who you'd be helping out financially in the housing crisis are the *banks,* not the people the bank foreclosed on


[29-Jul-20 12:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The idea of owning property is so fucking foreign to me


[29-Jul-20 12:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, property ownership comes with stuff like property taxes etc


[29-Jul-20 12:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The absolute cheapest holes in the wall, one room / studio hovels, go for 250k euro as a starting price


[29-Jul-20 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
however it's very much a mess because of the fairly arbitrary way in which property is valued for tax purposes


[29-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The only things cheaper are really "creative" crawl spaces or attics or basements with a total space of 15m2 tops


[29-Jul-20 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And you can bet that the system is rigged to make the rich richer and the poor poorer


[29-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And those go for 150k euro


[29-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
. https://imgur.com/gallery/vZM0Tvw

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[29-Jul-20 12:15 AM] Crow#5457
sound


[29-Jul-20 01:24 AM] illumnious#7938
Saw that


[29-Jul-20 01:34 AM] ononim#8141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole%C3%B1o

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[29-Jul-20 01:35 AM] ononim#8141
Damn


[29-Jul-20 01:35 AM] ononim#8141
Another example of russian colonial violence no one ever talks or knows about


[29-Jul-20 01:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378658197638086656/737795901766238279/1595974575500.png

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[29-Jul-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[29-Jul-20 01:43 AM] byte[]#2610
sure it does, jeff


[29-Jul-20 01:44 AM] byte[]#2610
that's totally an issue in every other country that has strong workforce union membership in every sector and totally not just an artifact of decades of being legally lied to by anti unionists who want to crush labor rights


[29-Jul-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
does this mean they're going to hire more minorities & women


[29-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
it's probably correct though.


[29-Jul-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
but the logical conclusion from that is, yes, more diversity is better.


[29-Jul-20 01:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Idk, but I wouldn't put it past Amazon to strategically weaponize it.


[29-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this might be fake, but it's not about what it says, it's about what they'll do.


[29-Jul-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
if they suddenly vocally support BLM and focus on diversity, well, you know why.


[29-Jul-20 01:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/covington-teen-nick-sandmanns-attorney-threatens-more-legal-action/

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Covington teen Nick Sandmann’s attorney threatens CNN, Washington P...
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[29-Jul-20 02:03 AM] Treascair#7785
> https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/covington-teen-nick-sandmanns-attorney-threatens-more-legal-action/
@>That Guy 

"Bring it on, bitchtits" in legalese is probably the response CNN's and WaPo's lawyers sent back.  They JUST settled (likely for the nuisance cost, judging by what all the legal experts are saying, so not a whole lot of cash even BEFORE his lawyers took their chunk) and now he's whining? the legal teams are going to get *vindictive* now, assuming the judge doesn't step in and tell him to fuck off personally.

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[29-Jul-20 02:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[29-Jul-20 02:06 AM] Treascair#7785
Via the article: " “This tweet by @AshaRangappa may have cost Ms. Rangappa her job at @CNN. It is called breach of confidentiality agreement. Asha Rangappa is a liar. I know how to deal with liars. Heads are going to roll at CNN or @N1ckSandmann is going to filing another lawsuit & reveal truth,” he said in a tweet. "

Yes, hi, counter suit for defamation (calling them a liar) and possibly extortion (get rid of them or I'll sue you again) says 'Say again, fucknugget?'


[29-Jul-20 02:07 AM] Treascair#7785
the shithead's going to get *mulched* in discovery


[29-Jul-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
not the sharpest tool in the shed is he :twismug:  At least he's good for entertainment value.


[29-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why defamation lawyers have a poor reputation.


[29-Jul-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ambulance chasers are respected more, at least their targets are insurance companies.


[29-Jul-20 02:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These are people who make their living borderline threatening people who use their First Amendment rights in a way their rich clients dislike.


[29-Jul-20 02:44 AM] JC Denton#7076
https://twitter.com/animegorilla/status/1288233974742028293
We got too cocky anarchybros

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[29-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
absolutely hysterical if true.


[29-Jul-20 02:53 AM] jlun2#8758
<https://nationalpost.com/news/donald-trump-jr-in-twitter-jail-for-sharing-demon-sperm-doctors-hydroxychloroquine-video>
wtf is this headline? :roseconfused:

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[29-Jul-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
the body is even weirder


[29-Jul-20 02:57 AM] Marches[45]#0674
TFW you see P is back and that he hung out in Tartarus.


[29-Jul-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
No idea who that is


[29-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Baiter with bad faith arguements.


[29-Jul-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
That could describe many people who lurk tartarus


[29-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Marches[45]#0674
He's a Rainbooru mod.


[29-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I assume Patachu/Darkdoomer/Mote


[29-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. the guy that LARPed as an antifa slowly being convinced by how genius Darkdoomer was into seeing the light of how leftism and basic human empathy are evil


[29-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Yep


[29-Jul-20 03:19 AM] Synfag#9241
of course it's hydroxychloroquine again


[29-Jul-20 03:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
They keep calling it a cure. it's a treatment that reduces recovery time in some people. not a cure.


[29-Jul-20 03:22 AM] Synfag#9241
either way
the treatment works


[29-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Opponent#3498
so what does it do exactly? Because it's apparently not entirely useless like was previously believed.


[29-Jul-20 03:23 AM] Synfag#9241
who said it's entirely useless?


[29-Jul-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no oen said it was useless, they jsut beleived the risk outweighed the benefits


[29-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Opponent#3498
still. What are the effects? How does it interact with COVID (or after-effects like blood clotting)


[29-Jul-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
hydroxychloroquine is chiefly intended as an antimalarial


[29-Jul-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
> Hydroxychloroquine increases[39] lysosomal pH in antigen-presenting cells.[3] In inflammatory conditions, it blocks toll-like receptors on plasmacytoid dendritic cells (PDCs).[40] Toll-like receptor 9 (TLR 9), which recognizes DNA-containing immune complexes, leads to the production of interferon and causes the dendritic cells to mature and present antigen to T cells. Hydroxychloroquine, by decreasing TLR signaling, reduces the activation of dendritic cells and the inflammatory process.[medical citation needed]


[29-Jul-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoline

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Quinoline is a heterocyclic aromatic organic compound with the chemical formula C9H7N.  It is a colorless hygroscopic liquid with a strong odor. Aged samples, especially if exposed to light, become yellow and later brown.  Quinoline is only slightly soluble in cold water but d...
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[29-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, I shouldve known better than to ask about medication's effects.


[29-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Synfag#9241
I remember hydroxychloroquine was a promising treatment
with some positive results already on the trials



... and then Trump mentioned it.

suddenly, two studies popped up conveniently proving Trump wrong
weeks later, retracted.
days later, new study nowsaying hcq doesn't have much effects on recovery
that silenced the hcq talk for a while
... and then here we are
a livestream happened
it got taken down
appeared again
then disappeared again.


[29-Jul-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
obviously, it's all a massive conspiracy to take viable treatment options for covid down


[29-Jul-20 03:29 AM] Synfag#9241
there seem to be some issue with hydroxychloroquine


[29-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Synfag#9241
if anything mentioning it is immediately taken down


[29-Jul-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
it's totally not because it hasn't been shown to be clinically effective for treating covid


[29-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Synfag#9241
if it's the demon sperm
then it doesn't make sense


[29-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, irrc the primary reason Trump mentioned that was he has a stake at the producer of the drug.


[29-Jul-20 03:31 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[29-Jul-20 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
he also mentioned black lights and bleach. His approval _is_ a condemnation by default.


[29-Jul-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's all a massive conspiracy to make Trump look bad, and totally not legitimate medical concerns and stock stakes


[29-Jul-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
medical professionals do not want to gamble with untested and clinically unproven treatment options unless it would literally be unethical not to do so


[29-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Synfag#9241
so everybody here will condemn hcq for that?


[29-Jul-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't really care what you see in the media about people using hydroxychloroquine as a treatment or not, because what I see in the scientific literature is that it isn't a good treatment option


[29-Jul-20 03:32 AM] Opponent#3498
no. Everybody here will take a good hard _second_ look at it even if it would be tentatively approved.


[29-Jul-20 03:32 AM] byte[]#2610
and that's what I really care about, not the president's opinion or some pundit on TV


[29-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Synfag#9241
so far, I don't see it being given a chance for a second look altogether


[29-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Synfag#9241
with all the takedowns


[29-Jul-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
the media is not the scientific literature, stop conflating them


[29-Jul-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who hosted this live stream?


[29-Jul-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway, scientists have identified 21 other possible drugs that are shown to have a clinical response as a treatment for covid, with well studied human interactions


[29-Jul-20 03:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I would _hope_ that at least some of them pan out into realistic treatment options before we have a vaccination ready


[29-Jul-20 03:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What is dangerous is Trump and his followers taking it as a preventative. People buying it up for covid possibly taking from someone that may actually need it.


[29-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
its kind of depressing that we're still in most ways at 'rub acid into balls to exorcise demons' level of medicine tbh.


[29-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
at least this is how it feels lately.


[29-Jul-20 03:36 AM] Synfag#9241
no one will bat an eye when the results of the  hcq trials is scrapped
it's getting dangerous to continue anyway


[29-Jul-20 03:36 AM] byte[]#2610
of treatment, yes, but of understanding, we're light years ahead of our old understanding


[29-Jul-20 03:37 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent  well, i mean "demon sperm doctor" appeared as a headline so not surprised


[29-Jul-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
werent the trials stopped because people kept dying of heart failure?


[29-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
really? where?


[29-Jul-20 03:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know, that was an actual question


[29-Jul-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i foudn my answer, the answer was no


[29-Jul-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-halts-clinical-trial-hydroxychloroquine

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NIH halts clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine
Study shows treatment does no harm, but provides no benefit
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[29-Jul-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> A clinical trial to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults hospitalized with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has been stopped by the National Institutes of Health. A data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) met late Friday and determined that while there was no harm, the study drug was very unlikely to be beneficial to hospitalized patients with COVID-19. After its fourth interim analysis the DSMB, which regularly monitors the trial, recommended to the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI), part of NIH, to stop the study. NHLBI halted the trial immediately.


[29-Jul-20 03:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
from the sounds of it, for covid patients it would have been at most a placebo with active ingredients that carry possible side effects


[29-Jul-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 04:01 AM] ononim#8141
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/7/28/russia-to-help-build-mini-hagia-sophia-in-syria

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[29-Jul-20 04:02 AM] ononim#8141
circus moment 
low-key funny with how almost all the churches what were turned into museums are now fully or partially in ROC hands, and in later case ROC has more weight than museum administration


[29-Jul-20 04:03 AM] ononim#8141
anyway, people trying to be woke shilling for either RUssia or Turkey is so hilarious


[29-Jul-20 04:03 AM] Opponent#3498
another wonderful construction project from Russia. I'm reminded of the museum thing with artificial lake I once heard about.


[29-Jul-20 04:04 AM] Opponent#3498
there's a reason they contracted chinese to build the fucking Crimea bridge, cause they wanted that to last at least a little bit.


[29-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not to say they're incapable of building anything at all. The new armed forces monastery/museum that's been finished recently is fucking amazing.


[29-Jul-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just that the majority of construction is more or less a front for money laundering.


[29-Jul-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jul-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
> It’s also like the 5th book where the people in charge are completely in denial about the imminent danger at hand and we have an insane woman in charge of the schools

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[29-Jul-20 04:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:ts_cry:


[29-Jul-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Jul-20 04:24 AM] JC Denton#7076

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[29-Jul-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it does genuinly feel like for many people there was only 1 book series in life that made an impact.


[29-Jul-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and then the author turned out to be a complete douche to top it all off

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[29-Jul-20 04:27 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  whats the zoomer equavalent to harry potter


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] jlun2#8758
or is it still harry potter


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, Avatar or something I guess


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or Steven Universe


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
still harry potter


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] JC Denton#7076
It's Disney Star Wars


[29-Jul-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not like kids can't read, in fact zoomers are considerably better at reading than their parents


[29-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody under 30 cares about Star Wars


[29-Jul-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
nobody of any age should care about star wars lol, what a fucking boring series


[29-Jul-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lord of the rings is another one people reference ALL the time


[29-Jul-20 04:30 AM] JC Denton#7076
I never liked Harry Potter because of the stupid Avada Kedavra insta kill spell that trivializes everything


[29-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
...


[29-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You mean like how a gun trivializes everything in everything else?


[29-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
which also happens to be hideously ineffecient and obsolete for approximately 300 years :twismug:


[29-Jul-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://xkcd.com/1414/

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I'd like to find a corpus of writing from children in a non-self-selected sample (e.g. handwritten letters to the president from everyone in the same teacher's 7th grade class every year)--and score the kids today versus the kids 20 years ago on various objective measures of writing quality. I've heard the idea that exposure to all this amateur peer practice is hurting us, but I'd bet on the generation that conducts the bulk of their social lives via the written word over the generation that occasionally wrote book reports and letters to grandma once a year, any day.


[29-Jul-20 04:31 AM] JC Denton#7076
yes but it's a magical world and Avada Kedavra is basically just giving someone a sniper rifle lmao


[29-Jul-20 04:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not a sniper rifle. At best it's a flintlock


[29-Jul-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a world where flintlocks already exist


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
short range, low rof, not really that accurate, not many can properly use it.


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile you have fantastic beasts over here using wands as machine guns


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Marks you as the worst thing on the planet for life


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] jlun2#8758
> Our little fuckbird


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly Harry Potter series was full of turbo dumb shit


[29-Jul-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Harry could have solved everything with a six shooter by book one


[29-Jul-20 04:33 AM] JC Denton#7076
Wasn't Moldyman invincible though


[29-Jul-20 04:33 AM] JC Denton#7076
or at least could keep coming back through mcguffin asspulls


[29-Jul-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just keep shooting him


[29-Jul-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
> Marks you as the worst thing on the planet for life
shes prolife isnt she


[29-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck knows what Rowling is now


[29-Jul-20 04:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
she is what she has to be to stay relevent

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[29-Jul-20 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She's a billionaire, at a certain point most billionaires just turn into shitposters


[29-Jul-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What, someone's gonna get mad and make a callout post? They can literally fill an Olympic pool with human blood and childs' tears and swim in it for the instagram crowd


[29-Jul-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
Rowling is very anti trans rights which is what embroiled her in her most recent controversies


[29-Jul-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
And doubled and tripled and quadrupled down every time she got called on her shit


[29-Jul-20 04:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point she might AS well start a radio show


[29-Jul-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
is that still relevant, or boomer meme thing @prism stryder(intexda)


[29-Jul-20 04:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
conservative radio shows are still very relevent, mostly to boomers though


[29-Jul-20 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so, both i guess?


[29-Jul-20 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
Conservative radio shows are god tier grifting


[29-Jul-20 04:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509422-anti-semitism-charges-roil-david-perdues-reelection-bid-as-polls-tighten

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[29-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MichelleLhooq/status/1288253381883113475

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[29-Jul-20 05:00 AM] Crow#5457
NYC is doing the gestapo bullshit now


[29-Jul-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NYC, or Barr's brownshirts in NYC?


[29-Jul-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fighting the virus with military weaponry! Why didn;t we think of this!


[29-Jul-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
what's the total of the bill? Cause if this is like 1%, then w/e. It probably isn't though.


[29-Jul-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think it was a $1trillion bill


[29-Jul-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is that it was a corona virus support bill, not the military budget bill


[29-Jul-20 05:13 AM] jlun2#8758
do the voters even care about evictions? i thought they were mostly rich boomers


[29-Jul-20 05:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and given GOP reactions to it, it sounds like not everyone was aware of the defense budget spending in this covid bill


[29-Jul-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Completely unrelated riders are a staple in US lawmaking

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[29-Jul-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/509421-doctor-retweeted-by-trump-has-warned-of-alien-dna-sex-with

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Doctor retweeted by Trump has warned of alien DNA, sex with demons
A Houston doctor who made false statements about the coronavirus in a video that was removed from Facebook, Twitter and YouTube this week has previously made other unfounded claims about medical conditions, sexual contact with spirits, t
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[29-Jul-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/trump-ignores-scotus-daca-ruling-says-program-is-illegal-will-not-accept-new-applicants-cuts-renewals-to-one-year/ here we go

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Trump ignores SCOTUS DACA ruling: Says program is illegal, will not...
President Donald Trump though acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf (photo) will sidestep a Supreme Court ruling and move to drastically limit access to and limit the protections of the Obama-era program known as DACA. The administration believes DACA, Deferred Actio...
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[29-Jul-20 05:24 AM] byte[]#2610
even better https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-stella-immanuel-alien-dna-hydroxychloroquine-press-briefing-today-a9643021.html

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Trump defends doctor who claimed medicine is made from alien DNA an...
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[29-Jul-20 05:25 AM] jlun2#8758
is it that easy to become a doctor in US now?
how do you pass med school while believing in demon alien sperm meds


[29-Jul-20 05:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/27/how-the-eviction-crisis-will-impact-each-state.html
a normal and fine nation having a normal one

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How the eviction crisis across the U.S. will look
The impending eviction crisis will hurt some states more than others. African-American and Hispanic tenants are especially at risk of losing their homes.
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[29-Jul-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
nothing politically will change from this :ts_cry:


[29-Jul-20 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
don;t say nothing, it could always get worse


[29-Jul-20 05:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the gop could retake the house :derpchrys:


[29-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's okay, the fascist brownshirts will simply abduct you for being homeless


[29-Jul-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
where do you think the military money is going?


[29-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Serenity#9645
im pretty worried about places of work and small businesses being destroyed i just saw pictures of a local car repair place and many places earlier today being boarded up with "dont hurt us we support BLM" signs out or burnt to the ground thats pretty scary, maybe the us is just fucked from both sides seeing democratic leaders marching with the riots and even leading the mobs to governers houses and bad leadership at the top seems all levels are fucked


[29-Jul-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Do something about the homeless problem? What homeless? I don;t see any homeless"


[29-Jul-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
The protests have grown a shittone since unmarked vans and brownshirts started


[29-Jul-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Maybe try to make those in power do something if you want that to not happen.


[29-Jul-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
doesnt atone for the destruction of local businesses and ruined lives no matter how bad


[29-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Okay but half the US is on track to be homeless so property clearly isn't important


[29-Jul-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
Small businesses owners can join the club


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
They don't have jackets, they can't afford them.


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course then you get to the supremacist groups actively trying to sabotage the protests by making the protestors look liek rioters and destroying businesses that support BLM


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a chaotic mess out there


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
so local mechanics are not important, local stores are not important? trump didnt destroy them, he has many flaws but not that our goveners said that he cant sent people in to quell this crazyness when he offered!


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
New York for example is literally fine and nothing destructive is happening other than cops


[29-Jul-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Trump could simply listen to the demands of protestors and the destroying would stop.


[29-Jul-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
You act as if these people are mindless zombie hordes with no goals


[29-Jul-20 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
If you negotiate and listen to what protestors have to say, thne the rioters lose their cover fire and stand out like sore thumbs


[29-Jul-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
The worst that is happening in most places is graffiti


[29-Jul-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Rioters get more coverage


[29-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
You act as if this is a majority of the movement and every business owner in America is living in fear lmao


[29-Jul-20 05:52 AM] Serenity#9645
you act like the people who own these places are evil cus no order is being placed to stop ruining lives of innocent people!


[29-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Don't let media fearmongering get to you


[29-Jul-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Buildings can be rebuilt.


[29-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
People cannot un-die


[29-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah new ones can but not the people who had all their tools and buildings lost


[29-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Okay then advocate for the demands the protests have and it all stops


[29-Jul-20 05:53 AM] Serenity#9645
and neither can the lives lost from the "protests" as well what is it at 30?


[29-Jul-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
Violence only exist because y'all ignore peaceful kneeling


[29-Jul-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
People have tried doing it the nice friendly way for decades.


[29-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Serenity#9645
no one asked for it! people get raided with "please dont attack us we support BLM" signs!


[29-Jul-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
40 million people about to be evicted is crazy.


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like 13% of the population.


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Okay but 40 million people who are evicted, many will join protests and it will become more violent and a more class based movement


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
No country can handle 13% of its population losing their homes in 2 months.


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a recipe for Trump's head on a literal pike.


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't think homeless people care about your poor small business


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
thats one problem and i dont agree with that, but i also dont agree with local businesses being burned too as collateral!


[29-Jul-20 05:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to great depression 2: homeless boogaloo


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Okay but this could've easily been stopped early, blame the leadership


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Protests and violence will only grow by being ignored and violently repressed.


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this could have stopped a decade ago if the other protests had been listened to


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
i blame the governors yes i blame the leadership


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
they can go fuck themselves for not stopping this


[29-Jul-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, this literally could've been stopped a decade ago.


[29-Jul-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
This could've never happened but holding police accountable for being executioners isn't fair on them apparently


[29-Jul-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
They just had a bad day and had to execute someone, fine and normal


[29-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Serenity#9645
trump has alot of problems but saying no by governors to not stop the riots is all the governors fault. and yeah it maybe from a decade ago, but not stopping these people is wrong!


[29-Jul-20 05:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the feds arent stopping the riots, they;re fueling them


[29-Jul-20 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stopping them violently makes more normal people join the riots you himbo


[29-Jul-20 05:58 AM] Serenity#9645
the feds arnt allowed to! send in the people to actually stop them!


[29-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
This is literally happening, if more Feds come in violently you just make the rioters look correct.


[29-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
What is Portland?


[29-Jul-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
You literally validate the protests and riots by stopping them with violence.


[29-Jul-20 05:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s almost as if people react negatively to being kidnapped by ICE agents in unmarked vans


[29-Jul-20 06:00 AM] Serenity#9645
portland, ohio. the courthouse has been under seige for 37 days before the feds reacted, its now day 60. it should have been stopped way before


[29-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
there are reasons for that.


[29-Jul-20 06:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
violent repression only recruits more protestors out of ordinary just wanna grillers


[29-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is why mom wall and vets came out now


[29-Jul-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
reasons to cause a riot? to ruin peoples lives? i dont see police looting and smashing local businesses please link me that they are and ill support you


[29-Jul-20 06:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
you literally cannot fight a protest against police brutality with police brutality


[29-Jul-20 06:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
generally if you want to put out a fire you don't toss gasoline onto it


[29-Jul-20 06:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
less lethal ammunition doesnt stop riots, it fuels them


[29-Jul-20 06:02 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah you put water on it, that is law and order and prevention! meaning police stops burning down places of work!


[29-Jul-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah good luck with that, every protest I've seen was peaceful before cops started gassing and shooting people


[29-Jul-20 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tazers, the tear gas, the "rubber" bullets are gasoline, not water


[29-Jul-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
the looting starts when the shooting starts, not the other way around.


[29-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Serenity#9645
the seige of the courthouse was started from them gassing them?


[29-Jul-20 06:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
looters are also not protestors, they;re people taking advantage of the police being distracted to steal things


[29-Jul-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
I wouldn't shoot anybody until the looting started, but I'd be more than willing to if they so much as looked at my home.


[29-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Serenity#9645
please prove that


[29-Jul-20 06:04 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're worried about your business so much, grab some friends, some rifles and defend it if the riots come. BLM support or not, you people at least have options.


[29-Jul-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Looters are indeed not protestors.


[29-Jul-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
Just criminals and lowlives taking advantage of the violence.


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Phelan#7647
Problem is that the looters and rioters use the protests as cover and to blend in.

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[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
if you don't, well, don't cry when the harm reduction doctrine means your property is now cinders. That's not the governor to blame.


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
chaos, gas, ect, makes good cover for looting, that's pretty obvious


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's definitely the governor to blame.


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you have tear gas everywhere it's pretty hard to see for shit and look for looters lol


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's the governor's job to fix it.


[29-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Phelan#7647
They should do is what happened in DC, the protestors handed the people trying to start shit to the cops.


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
if the protestors have demands met, they don't need to protest, it's that simple


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Phelan#7647
I saw at least one case of that happening in DC anyway.


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
then the remaining looters are easy to persecute


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the governor tried to fix it, police told them to go fuck themselves


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Impotent governor.


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Phelan#7647
Also, the "unmarked van" video was likely an informant extraction.


[29-Jul-20 06:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
perhaps the police are the problem


[29-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Serenity#9645
thats ok i love peaceful protest, but gas and rubber bullet any looters and brick throwers! but toss me anything just anything that says that the people burning it all down are being charged for burning down a local mechanic shop. thats the problem


[29-Jul-20 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
"video", that implies there's just the one lmao


[29-Jul-20 06:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
well, there's plenty of videos, go out and record them


[29-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Phelan#7647
Cops went up to them and the dude complied, didn't even cuff the dude.


[29-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Phelan#7647
That guy, at least, was likely an informant


[29-Jul-20 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the governor basically told police to stop using the "less lethal" shit because it was fueling the riots. The police inh turn kindly sicced their union on the governor and told him to go fuck himself


[29-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Phelan#7647
What should they use to protect themselves and government property, lethal stuff?


[29-Jul-20 06:09 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont blame them you goto people with baseball bats with nothing to defend youself


[29-Jul-20 06:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
less lethal is still lethal


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah and a rioter is still dangerous


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Phelan#7647
So should they switch over to live ammunition?


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
the problem is they're not fucking using them on rioters, they're using them on ordinary protestors.


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how about you stop attacking peaceful protestors and the ritoers wont have their cover to riot


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Me?


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in general


[29-Jul-20 06:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
like idk where you're seeing people be violent rioters before gassing and shooting


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Phelan#7647
There was a bomb apparently at that courthouse.


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
rioters are LITERALLY taking advantage of dumb aggressive cops


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then disarm the bomb, the protestors liekly didnt knwo it was there


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Phelan#7647
Even bringing a bomb shows violent intent.


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Serenity#9645
2 people defending their own property got their weapons taken. riots are still wide spread. police wont go in without less then lethal munitions and i dont blame them. there is no law and order


[29-Jul-20 06:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
if the dumb aggressive cops have self control, the rioters cannot use shit for cover.


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
blanket gassing the crowd with a fog of tear gas isnt helping you stop the bomber


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
panic simply makes the situation hard to control


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Phelan#7647
The problem is that they're throwing shit from the back of the crowd.
And tear gas just helps disperse.


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
tear gas isnt shit, ive been tear gassed over 10 times!


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s making it easier for thme to sneak away unnoticed


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
it makes you wanna leave thats it


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, tear gas (or pepper spray) isn't the worst thing in the world


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tear gas fogs shit up and makes it hard to see


[29-Jul-20 06:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you want to stop rioters, you stop the rioters specifically.


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Phelan#7647
You can't when they're using the protestors for cover,


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you brutalize the protestors you simply create panic, panic can turn into more rioting, you literally make rioting happen


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially at the consistant level they use


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Serenity#9645
wat? no tear gas makes you cough and leave the area, with a hot sensation to any place effected including the eyes, it subsides in less then 2 hours even less in some


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Serenity#9645
have you ever been hit by it?


[29-Jul-20 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
you talk about innocent people as if there isn't a shittone of innocent people hit by chemical weapons and rubber bullets with permanent blindless and pretty awful injuries


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
that and the grenades themselves are dangerous projectiles that fucking hurt


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Phelan#7647
>chemical weapons
Also, if anything gets shot into your eye, it's gonna lead to blindness.


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
perhaps cops shouldn't be aiming for the eyes of journalists huh?


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Phelan#7647
So are cans thrown at someone's head.


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Serenity#9645
ive had strings of snot from my nose and coughing, i just wanted to leave and take a shower


[29-Jul-20 06:14 AM] JC Denton#7076

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[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Phelan#7647
Have you ever shot a gun @dissociativity


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
a coke can doesn't compare to a 40mm launched rubberized metal projectile


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
...ocular implants would be a major breakthrough tbh. Ah well, one can hope.


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Serenity#9645
not gonna lie, after being tear gassed i breathed the best i ever have for a week lol


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, I quite like guns, I'm a leftist, not a liberal.


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does having shot a gun hav to do with saying not to shoot rubber bullets at journalists?


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
I believe the working class should be armed, just like mr Karl Marx, under no pretext should they be disarmed he said.


[29-Jul-20 06:15 AM] Phelan#7647
Then you'd know it's not the easiest to aim specifically at eyes or any specific body part


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-tear-gas-and-pepper-spray-affect-the-body

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Across the nation, law enforcement has deployed tear gas and pepper spray on people protesting against George Floyd's murder. These chemical agents — though less lethal than other weapons — can inflict serious injury and harm on some people, especially those who have underlyin...
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[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
then you'd know maybe cops are aiming at the head.


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
considering how many head injuries are occuring with rubber bullets, this isn't an isolated incident.


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe the cops shouldn't be aiming at anyone.


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Phelan#7647
You can't really aim with what's going on. Too much chaos


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe they should be firing warning shots low.


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
noooo there's chaos I can't point the gun down slightly


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Phelan#7647
>warning shots


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[29-Jul-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
you realize those bullets are designed to be shot low?


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Serenity#9645
im sorry if i dont wanna read a op-ed about being tear gasses when i have been inside a building 10 times and had to break trough a door with tear (CS) gas


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
they bounce.


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're not designed to fire center mass or at heads.


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Phelan#7647
If you shoot it at the ground and it gets in the eye, it's gonna still knock an eye out.


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539444/

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[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] Serenity#9645
who says you need to shoot for the head? its always to the chest no matter what


[29-Jul-20 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are quite literally designed to bounce


[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Serenity#9645
or the ground for that matter


[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
you shoot towards the ground fairly straight ideally


[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Phelan#7647

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[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] Serenity#9645
thats some kentucky windage shit


[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are not designed to hit you directly, they are designed to bounce off of the ground into the crowd, being a crowd control weapon


[29-Jul-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
the force from a direct hit is not the intended 'less lethal' impact force


[29-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Serenity#9645
i might know lethal rounds and not less then lethal rounds but that seems counter productive


[29-Jul-20 06:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are generally intended to be fired into lower limbs in that case


[29-Jul-20 06:19 AM] Phelan#7647
The worst non-eye related injury that I've seen was a bad welt.


[29-Jul-20 06:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
the police are using them like lethal weapons, that's the problem


[29-Jul-20 06:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
they are also using them on people who are not being violent.


[29-Jul-20 06:20 AM] Serenity#9645
"aiming for lower limbs" thats super hard. please goto a range and tell me how you can shoot a target in the leg at 50m none the less 300m


[29-Jul-20 06:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
they need proper training, american cops get less training than you've had playing any MOBA or completive FPS game lol


[29-Jul-20 06:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
in a huge crowd you are bound to hit stop being stupid


[29-Jul-20 06:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's crowd control, not individual control


[29-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, people who say "aim for the legs" (especially when it's with lethal firearms) have a sub 70 IQ


[29-Jul-20 06:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've probably played ARMA 2 more than US cops have had training


[29-Jul-20 06:21 AM] Serenity#9645
in a crowd means nothing, aim for a leg in a controlled circumstance at 50m


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
this aint lethal and the intent isn't killing or badly injuring people


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
applying lethal tactics to less than lethals is dumb as shit


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Serenity#9645
ok then rubber bullet at a targets leg at 50m


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
at a group of targets


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Serenity#9645
in a range with all the time in the world


[29-Jul-20 06:22 AM] Phelan#7647
Why don't the protestors try to force the people starting shit out of their protests?


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Serenity#9645
exactly!


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
They do. It's harder to do that while being gassed.


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Phelan#7647
Maybe they should've done it sooner and make it obvious they wont take that shit.


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
Why don't they do thing that they already do says the stupid man


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Serenity#9645
so why is their riots?


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] Phelan#7647
They don't that's the thing.


[29-Jul-20 06:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
because they aren't superhumans
there aren't many riots.


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Serenity#9645
then you use less then lethal


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
there literally aren't many


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm talking in the context of portland and the such.


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
portland is only having more riots in response to this extra fed violence


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn this goes in circles you're stupid and in bad faith, I'm out.


[29-Jul-20 06:24 AM] Serenity#9645
they dont need more violence if there isnt riots yes?


[29-Jul-20 06:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
Kbye


[29-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Phelan#7647
Lol


[29-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Serenity#9645
serious question


[29-Jul-20 06:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
they don't need more riots if there isn't more violence :' ) and so the circle continues


[29-Jul-20 06:25 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, riots imply that the protestors are being violent


[29-Jul-20 06:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
okay now I go because I'm sick of this dumb ass shit circle


[29-Jul-20 06:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea of sending the feds in was to quash police opposition, it wasnt to stop riots, the riots happen because they tried to quash police opposition, which in turn fueled mroe riots


[29-Jul-20 06:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
doing the same with feds just fuels the same fucking thing


[29-Jul-20 06:27 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe but that is a flaw but if riots didnt happen there is no need for less then lethal rounds. and more violence in responce to any curcumstance of a rogue unit means other units get into the riot to use less then lethal that wasnt in the initial


[29-Jul-20 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if the police didnt try to quaSH police opposition the riots wouldnt have gottne off the ground int he first place


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Phelan#7647
You gotta defend yourself


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
against people kneeling?


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Serenity#9645
so more violence is the answer to violence that effects the people and businesses around them?


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] Phelan#7647
Against people throwing bombs and fireworks.


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in retaliation to beign aggressed upon


[29-Jul-20 06:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
fireworks was cops


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the protestors were defending themselves from the police who were assaultignt hem


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] Phelan#7647
Ok Mr. Jones, what chemicals are they putting in the water to turn the frogs gay?


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
just like mysterious trays of bricks


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
fresh pallets of bricks


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
delivered mysteriously


[29-Jul-20 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the police meanwhile did the brick thing to tr and fuel mroe riots so thye could use more military weaponry


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] wren#0114
lmao what


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Phelan#7647
Even if they put the bricks there, it was up to the rioters to pick them up.


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Serenity#9645
wat? source?


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s called entrapment


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Serenity#9645
i need a source or bad faith argument or a ban


[29-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Phelan#7647
That's not entrapment.


[29-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Phelan#7647
Entrapment would be if the cops told rioters to pick up and throw the bricks.


[29-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Serenity#9645
crow wants to ban people for bad faith arguements i want proof police placed those bricks i want proof!


[29-Jul-20 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pallets-of-bricks-protest-sites/ apparently it;s mostly false, my bad

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pallets-of-bricks-protest-sites/
Were Pallets of Bricks Strategically Placed at US Protest Sites?
Entangling everyone from Bill Gates to local police, social media users alleged a grand conspiracy unfolding in U.S. cities during 2020 George Floyd protests.
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[29-Jul-20 06:31 AM] JC Denton#7076
Its not a conspiracy theory when we do it


[29-Jul-20 06:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXAUtrbDuKY

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Police Are Seen Planting Bricks for Outside Agitators To Use To Incite A Riot During Protests
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[29-Jul-20 06:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mostly, not entirely


[29-Jul-20 06:32 AM] Phelan#7647
When did the cops tell people to pick up and throw the bricks. If they didn't it's not entrapment.


[29-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Serenity#9645
No evidence suggests a coordinated effort existed on behalf of government entities or billionaires to place bricks on protest routes to incite violence during the demonstrations. Also, evidence showed that in many cases "suspicious" bricks depicted on social media were on streets for ongoing construction projects, not "planted" for protesters. 
false i demand a ban for conspiracy theories


[29-Jul-20 06:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like violence against protestors will make some likely to defend themselves and if you plant weapons, that may not go so pretty


[29-Jul-20 06:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
what's this video then?


[29-Jul-20 06:33 AM] Phelan#7647
A cop leaving a car unlocked and using that for a sting is not entrapment, it's entrapment if they tell a guy that the car is unlocked and has the keys in the ignition.


[29-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Serenity#9645
@Crow bad faith and the spread of false news to push a narrative


[29-Jul-20 06:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao, I demand censorship against people I disagree with


[29-Jul-20 06:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i already owned up to beign wrong


[29-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Serenity#9645
not against you


[29-Jul-20 06:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not so sure it's a conspiracy theory but I don't claim to know how widespread it is


[29-Jul-20 06:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
it could have only been a few smaller cases.


[29-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
i know people banned for less, and i dont want it to be 1 sided


[29-Jul-20 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s happened in some places but it's not as wide spread as was beleived


[29-Jul-20 06:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police tactics get real scummy at times, so it;s not entirely out of the question


[29-Jul-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
we all know it wont happen anyways if anything ill be banned lol


[29-Jul-20 06:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoEmd6hxt-U
is this made up?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoEmd6hxt-U
Agitators hid bricks, rocks strategically around NYC, cops say
The NYPD released video of more evidence that they believe proves the looters who have caused damage across the city all week are well-organized. Officials said they found bricks and rocks hidden in strategic places on street corners in Brooklyn and Queens. The boxes were not ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SoEmd6hxt-U/sddefault.jpg


[29-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Phelan#7647
>agitators


[29-Jul-20 06:36 AM] Phelan#7647
I bet those are more likely left wing anarchists.


[29-Jul-20 06:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
agitator is a funny word


[29-Jul-20 06:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
because anyone can be one if you put your imagination to it


[29-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Serenity#9645
"they found placed rocks"


[29-Jul-20 06:37 AM] Serenity#9645
even your souce is against you!


[29-Jul-20 06:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3PWtS-AZc
how?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3PWtS-AZc
KCPD aware of rocks, bricks stashed on Plaza for Sunday's protest
Kansas City police said they found rocks and bricks that appear to have been stashed around the Country Club Plaza for Sunday's protest.

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[29-Jul-20 06:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
police admitting they found stuff doesn't disprove me.


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
how is that even an argument?
are you high m8?


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, but it also doesn't disprove that the agitators are left wing anarchists.


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
it also doesn't disprove that the agitators are feds either


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Serenity#9645
"they are aware of people stashing bricks and rocks" "we found them and we want to remove them were not aware of construction they are there for nefarious use"


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
again, agitator is a funny word


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
you can't prove a negative


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] Crow#5457
god damn there's been a lot of bad faith in here


[29-Jul-20 06:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
as I said it could be literally anyone.


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Serenity#9645
how so? 2 sources are against them? and a snopes fact check?


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm being perfectly good faith, I'm not saying it was feds, but clearly someone is up to some shit.


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
until you have a source for who it is, you cannot blame antifa supersoldiers.


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Phelan#7647
What's more likely (Occam's razor and all that)
Left wing anarchists place bricks to be used against an institution that they dislike or...
Cops placing bricks there so that they can be used against themselves so they can open fire and escalate.


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Serenity#9645
i never said antifa ever!


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUe7pJVYD4 this was a cop

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[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
the reason for the bricks in the truck was apparently there was a broken sidewalk they removed all the bricks from and notified the city about because of a tripping hazard or something


[29-Jul-20 06:39 AM] Crow#5457
seems weird


[29-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Serenity#9645
i said i want sources there is none youve given so far


[29-Jul-20 06:40 AM] Serenity#9645
i see umbrella man, nothing with bricks so far


[29-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Crow#5457
can you not post the super bad faith triple strawman memes


[29-Jul-20 06:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can't easily get 'sources' other than videos filmed by people there, the police have a valid rational interest in covering their asses and you cannot prove that the media is not also covering their asses


[29-Jul-20 06:41 AM] Serenity#9645
i never posted memes, i just said he lied, and defiends it with sources that say the opisite!


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally the only good source for this shit is live footage on twitter.


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Crow#5457
I deleted the meme already


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Phelan#7647
@Serenity he's talking about a different guy.


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
not police claiming noooo that's wrong to media.


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] Serenity#9645
my apologies then


[29-Jul-20 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
unfortunately conclusions to said things can be subjective, we only have footage, not so much compiled data.


[29-Jul-20 06:43 AM] Phelan#7647
I can just as easily claim that you put them there yourself. Some guys finding some bricks doesn't mean that they did it.


[29-Jul-20 06:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
whatever, drop it then, the cops regardles are brutalizing peaceful protestors, you cannot dispute this.


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Serenity#9645
i want to know what proof?


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
this violence agitates people, said violence results in more violence and appeals to the optics of the anti-brutality protestors.


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Serenity#9645
you said you had it, id love to know it


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
We cannot have academic proof of live events jesus christ you're being dense.


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2020/06/01/why-so-many-police-are-handling-the-protests-wrong

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Why So Many Police Are Handling the Protests Wrong
Disproportionate use of force can turn a peaceful protest violent, research shows.
https://d1n0c1ufntxbvh.cloudfront.net/photo/97b1cabb/57291/1200x/


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
go on twitter now and watch videos it's that easy, this is why I said bye, so bye lol


[29-Jul-20 06:44 AM] Phelan#7647
You were the guy that brought up the bricks and you just wanna drop it?


[29-Jul-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Turns out, we do know some of these answers. Researchers have spent 50 years studying the way crowds of protesters and crowds of police behave—and what happens when the two interact. One thing they will tell you is that when the police respond by escalating force—wearing riot gear from the start, or using tear gas on protesters—it doesn’t work. In fact, disproportionate police force is one of the things that can make a peaceful protest not so peaceful. But if we know that (and have known that for decades), why are police still doing it?


[29-Jul-20 06:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, I want to drop it because it's not productive.


[29-Jul-20 06:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
It was stupid to bring it up because again, it's largely anecdotal evidence.


[29-Jul-20 06:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
police are objectively handling this terribly and feds are objectively making the situation worse, law and order is not justice, ethics and morality, it's just a buzzword, laws don't mean shit.


[29-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Phelan#7647
I think that the rioters should have the book thrown at them.


[29-Jul-20 06:47 AM] Serenity#9645
ill drop it because you have no proof but thanks for confirming again that this chat has no bias. im disapointed ive spent so many years here and this is how people are treated

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[29-Jul-20 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
police don't mean shit when they just hurt innocent people instead of protecting and serving, they lose all community trust and credibility.


[29-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
uh, that was plenty of anecdotal evidence of police wrongdoing, but nothing concrete


[29-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The bricks were actually placed by construction crews that were trying to hide their bricks

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[29-Jul-20 06:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
people aren't going to respect the law if it's only used as a cruel bludgeon


[29-Jul-20 06:48 AM] Crow#5457
certainly enough to warrant an investigation, but likely wouldn't turn up anything


[29-Jul-20 06:48 AM] wren#0114
> nothing concrete
is this a brick pun

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[29-Jul-20 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know people who are there, I believe them.
this is pointless anyway when you're just gonna dehumanize everyone as evil criminals and looters and not fight for something that'll actually make a difference and end the protests, if you beat the protestors down til they stop, the sentiment in their head is still there for future protests and riots, and they will be ready.


[29-Jul-20 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a bit hard to tell who's an actual rioter when you aggress all the protestors into fighting to defend themselves.


[29-Jul-20 06:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
people aren't gonna be like, yeah we were wrong for protesting police brutality look at all of my bruises bro, I was just wrong, I'm in hospital now smh


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/portland-protests-fact-check.html

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By Kate Conger and Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/portland-protests-fact-check.html
Fact Check: How Violent Are the Portland Protests?
Attorney General William P. Barr said protesters had used fireworks, Tasers, pellet guns and lasers to target federal officers in Portland.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/07/28/us/28PROTESTS-FACTCHECK01/merlin_175027512_55f858b6-0b1d-4a49-84ea-b2ae2a4e9109-facebookJumbo.jpg


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
self defense doesnt stop jsut because your attacker is wearing a police uniform


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
like imagine thinking you're going to change the minds of huge amounts of people with that, you're just encouraging armed guerilla insurgent tactics in future because being peaceful doesn't work.


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] wren#0114
paywall blocking that article for me


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Phelan#7647
It's a bit hard to tell who's abusing their power when cans and bricks are being thrown at cops from the middle of the crowd.


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the protests were actually starting to subside before the federal secret police swooped in to stoke the flames again


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
the protestors aint carrying guns and shooting back, for now.


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://archive.fo/ssygm


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Serenity#9645
please point out where i said peaceful protesters deserve it? i can guarantee i did not. i said rioters. dont make this a vendetta because you cant get proof


[29-Jul-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
"I read that report . . . of the 1919 riot in Chicago, and it is as if I were reading the report of the investigating committee on the Harlem riot of ’35, the report of the investigating committee on the Harlem riot of ’43, the report of the McCone Commission on the Watts riot. I must again in candor say to you members of this Commission—it is a kind of Alice in Wonderland—with the same moving picture re-shown over and over again, the same analysis, the same recommendations, and the same inaction."


[29-Jul-20 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
okay but the police action doesn't differentiate between peaceful protestors and rioters.


[29-Jul-20 06:52 AM] Phelan#7647
The reason they're using CS gas is because it'll let them get some of the people only looking to start shit.


[29-Jul-20 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
throwing more police, feds, ect at the problem doesn't fix the problem.


[29-Jul-20 06:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the people looking to start shit, use the tear gas as an excuse to start said shit


[29-Jul-20 06:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
these protests, riots, will only increase in frequency and become more violent in future if you fail to address their demands.


[29-Jul-20 06:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a feedback loop


[29-Jul-20 06:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
again, do you want violent insurgencies against systemic issues because being peaceful didn't work?


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
burning down a few buildings and having only 30 people die is peaceful on the scale of things.


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Phelan#7647
>only 30 people die


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wait til your brutality causes them to buy guns and shoot back, then you'll see violent.


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
you people literally want a civil war m8


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] wren#0114
burning down buildings is still unacceptable


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, why are you defending that?


[29-Jul-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
if the problems were listened to a decade ago we wouldn't be here today.


[29-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
do you know how many people die in the US, even daily?


[29-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Phelan#7647
Also, that somewhat comes off as a threat


[29-Jul-20 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
30 aint shit, and a few burning buildings aint shit, obviously I don't want either of those things.


[29-Jul-20 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
the systemic harm the US does to poor people is huge in comparison


[29-Jul-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing I quoted is testimony from during the Kerner Report.

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[29-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
30 deaths across 2 months is literally a drop in the bucket for the US


[29-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a bilaterial commission by President Lyndon B. Johnson.


[29-Jul-20 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
you just let way more than 30 people die from easily preventable health issues because of poverty and you tell me BLM is violent?


[29-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It sought to find out why there were race riots.


[29-Jul-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It found there was a very simple, obvious, unavoidable answer to why people were rioting:


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
30 nationwide and some buildings doesn't sound all that large damage to me.
Systemic violence is far more violent than this, and the protests seek to correct it.


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
on average, for 2019, nearly 8000 people died a day


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Phelan#7647
I think 30 people is 30 too many.


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
30 people over two or so months aint shit


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because they were racially discriminated against their entire lives, day-in, day-out, and the police responded with unnecessary measures that only made the problems worse.


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
to be fair, many of those deaths are from natural causes


[29-Jul-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
preventative healthcare would've prevented many


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was found quite blatantly that this had been the real major findings of all the previous reports done on why people riot in the US.


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those reports however had been politically motivated to not actually spell it out.


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
americans are afraid to seek preventative treatment because they can't afford it.


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
you only get treatment when you're already dying in hospital


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Kerner Report was disowned by President Johnson as a result of it calling out white people as the cause of the riots.


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] Honahue#0656
I wonder how many diabetics die every year from rationing insulin cause our health care system is predatory


[29-Jul-20 06:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
more diabetics certainly die than these protests will ever kill


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nixon later made sure that Kerner went to federal prison when there was an opportunity to nail him on something nearly everyone did.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Phelan#7647
Is 30 murders ok because other people die? I don't get what your angle is.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
but hey, this is fine and normal, let's ignore systemic problems and the protests will go away if we simply beat the poors more


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
> Rationing is extremely dangerous and can lead to a deadly condition known as diabetic ketoacidosis. Four people died in 2017 while rationing their insulin. Four more died in 2018.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
https://rightcarealliance.org/actions/insulin/

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[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
4 people we know of.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
that number should be 0


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
No diabetic should die because of the price of insulin.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Insulin costs pennies to make.


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'd bet my life savings it's double bare minimum, if not far more


[29-Jul-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
THOSE are completely preventable deaths


[29-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is **zero** basis for its price in the US.


[29-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, and that child shouldn't have been shot execution style in Capitol Hill.


[29-Jul-20 07:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to mention childhood malnutrition leading to lifelong harm.


[29-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Phelan#7647
When did I start talking about healthcare, I'm all for single payer.


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
well, medicare for all would, police not executing people because they 'had a bad day' would be a start towards ending the protests yes.


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want blakk people to stop rioting, giv them fukking jobs.


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
because if you don't address systemic issues, this will keep happening and more often..


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you want poor people to be actually content, giv them jobs and healthcare.


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So If we do have a civil war, what would we call the armed protesters? Seperatists? Revolutionaries? Anarchists?


[29-Jul-20 07:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
the entire argument we have, is that brutalizing them til they go away will simply result in more rioting later.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter what you call anyone.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't make them easier to stop.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The police are largely the ones to blame for rioting.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Phelan#7647
If there is a civil war, I'm defending myself and my property to the last round.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aggressing upon homeless to make thme elavew doesnt get rid of the homeless problem it jsut pushes it out of sight until it becomes too big to hide


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is the main conclusion of immediate causes in all the reports on rioting.


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Honahue#0656
onr thing people love to forget about MLK was that his "I have a dream" speech was given at the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom


[29-Jul-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
The long-term causes are all racial divides.


[29-Jul-20 07:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the same goes for systemic racism and police brutality


[29-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Honahue#0656
he wanted a Federal Jobs program


[29-Jul-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racial divides make people revolt, the police come in and intimidate them and make them revolt much harder.


[29-Jul-20 07:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, here's my view, it literally doesn't matter what you think and it will keep happening so long as you don't address the problems that lead to it.


[29-Jul-20 07:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is a fact, it doesn't care about how much you think these people are dangerous criminals


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main way to make someone not be a dangerous criminal is to not treat them like one, and giv them a job and a place to liv.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
more policing addresses **nothing**


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who are well-off do not want to go out and commit crime.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
in fact, it simply results in more criminality.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
People who are treated with even a shred of the benefit of the doubt also generally don't commit crime.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
People commit crime when you treat them like a criminal at every turn and deny them an honest living.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people who are in good health and contentment don;t tend to go looting


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you assume people are criminals from looking at them it does do harm yes


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Treating people from the moment they enter school like criminals creates self-fulfilling prophecies.


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having police in schools does actual harm to kids.


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
everyone who's a dumbass 100% is like : why don't people riot when white people are executed by cops, and my answer is always the same, where were you?


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] Phelan#7647
When did I say that?


[29-Jul-20 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
like maybe white people should've rioted about being murdered by cops too


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being murdered by cops alone does not make people riot.


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is the long-term, systemic shit that really drives riots.


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
I didn't say you, I implied this is a common argument used by people who paint the rioters as the bad side


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cops killing someone just lights the match on the giant barrel of gunpowder.


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
I see it all the time.


[29-Jul-20 07:06 AM] Phelan#7647
Frankly, if anyone goes after my life or my property, I don't care who it is, (cops, civvies, black, white, poor, rich) I'll do whatever possible to defend both.


[29-Jul-20 07:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe, dare I say, you should help improve society somewhat because you live in it instead of only worrying about yourself


[29-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Phelan#7647
I pay my taxes and donate to charity.


[29-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taxes and charities do little on their own.


[29-Jul-20 07:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
individualism is a cancer upon the american brain and charity is just money laundering for rich people and does fuck all


[29-Jul-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Taxes need to be diverted to welfare.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Charities also often treat symptoms, not diseases, metaphorically.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
taxes are also way too low for bezos and the like and largely go to the bloated military, american roads are impressively bad.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voting ends up mattering more than most charitable donations.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Vote for those who will spend your tax money improving your community.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
american roads actually make me uncomfortable, idk how you afford cars with the amount of damage they must do


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Food stamps hav a 17% ROI btw.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Honahue#0656
a lot of charities are just tax avoidence and jobs creation for rich fail children


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tax cuts hav a 1% ROI.


[29-Jul-20 07:08 AM] Phelan#7647
I regularly donate hundreds to convention charities.
Maybe you're right, should I not donate to MSF and autism charities?


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] byte[]#2610
A rare moment of introspection https://theweek.com/speedreads/928057/trump-nobody-likes

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[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every dollar spent on food stamps leads to a dollar and 17 cents increase in the overall community.


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
you should leave the house and do something instead of patting yourself on the back for handing out money to rich failsons


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Every dollar spent on tax cuts leads to a dollar and 1 cent increase in the overall community.


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basic business logic says to increase taxes and food stamps.


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
charity is 100% feel good $$ for people who do nothing to help others


[29-Jul-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
As it will hav a 16x gain.


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
you are paying for a good feeling, nothing more


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] wren#0114
charity is legit


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] wren#0114
don


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Choose charities wisely.


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] wren#0114
don't just trust some big corporate charity


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Donate to charities that actually fix causes of symptoms.


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
charity largely doesn't address systemic issues


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Like doctors without borders.


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Also I really don't like the name calling.


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't deny there are great charities out there


[29-Jul-20 07:10 AM] wren#0114
preferably do local volunteer work or donate to groups who have accountable finances and who have good plans for the money beyond treating symptoms


[29-Jul-20 07:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I apologize, but volunteer if you wanna feel good about doing stuff lol


[29-Jul-20 07:11 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I volunteer at soup kitchens so lol.


[29-Jul-20 07:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I consider charities paying for a good feeling personally.
then that's awesome, good on ya


[29-Jul-20 07:11 AM] wren#0114
go to church boi


[29-Jul-20 07:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
keep at it!


[29-Jul-20 07:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, so long as demands are ignored, riots will continue ad infinitum, people without large issues don't tend to feel hurt/angry enough to riot.


[29-Jul-20 07:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
this will literally happen forever if it is not addressed, there is no stopping it, there is only pushing it back temporarily.


[29-Jul-20 07:13 AM] Honahue#0656
you'd have to find a churh that doesn't have strong protestant bent, sola fide means you don't have to do works to get saved which is a foundational belief in protestant


[29-Jul-20 07:14 AM] wren#0114
I am protestant


[29-Jul-20 07:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Protest ant.

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[29-Jul-20 07:14 AM] wren#0114
if the demands are less escalation of force, more police oversight and accountability, and no discrimination, then I can get behind it


[29-Jul-20 07:15 AM] wren#0114
if the demands are defund the police or any of the anarchist bs then heck no. And I know that's not the majority and that's not the cause of the riots


[29-Jul-20 07:17 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, cops need better training. Reducing their budget won't get them to train better.


[29-Jul-20 07:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
defund the police was a bad name for the demand, it's more like re-allocating police funding into services that need to be seperated from the police


[29-Jul-20 07:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they already have an excessive budget anyway, a slight re-allocation wouldnt hit tham all that hard


[29-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Opponent#3498
who comes up with this stuff anyway? Much like BLM with it's ambiguity, 'Defund the police' is almost deliberately made to fail.


[29-Jul-20 07:19 AM] Opponent#3498
if your slogan needs a FAQ attached it's shit.

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[29-Jul-20 07:20 AM] wren#0114
it depends on the area. I don't know about city police budgets, but rural county where I grew up had sheriffs. At some point their budget was such that they would actively seek out speeding tickets and minor road infraction tickets in order to meet budget quotas


[29-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Honahue#0656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0OUsnaD0uc

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The Logic of Abolishing the Police
Ben Burgis, the author of Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left, evaluates the logic behind the various demands coming out of the protests around the murder of George Floyd. Should we abolish the police? Defund the police? Overthrow the value-form of capitalism? Find out.
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[29-Jul-20 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it really should be called "Reallocate police funding" but that;s less catchy


[29-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Phelan#7647
I agree with @wren. There are reasonable demands (I'm against no-knock raids unless it's a situation that you'd involve SWAT in), but stuff like "Defund the Police" is just bad.


[29-Jul-20 07:20 AM] wren#0114
what's the deal with social workers idea? I've heard a little but I'm vague on the details


[29-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Honahue#0656
there's lots of calls the cops get that don't need cop responce,


[29-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Phelan#7647
They should still be armed, a domestic dispute can get very violent very quickly.


[29-Jul-20 07:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes, mostly people want police ot of everything but major disputes and threatening situations


[29-Jul-20 07:22 AM] Phelan#7647
Problem is that normal situations can turn violent quickly.


[29-Jul-20 07:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that;s when you call in the police, until it becomes violent the polcie don;t need to be involved because police presence makes situations mroe tense


[29-Jul-20 07:24 AM] Phelan#7647
What happens if someone pulls a gun on the "social worker"


[29-Jul-20 07:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s a violent dom estic dispute, thne yes absolutely disptach the police


[29-Jul-20 07:24 AM] wren#0114
why would they pull a gun on them


[29-Jul-20 07:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s just 2 people yelling at eachother, then sending police in might jsut escalate shit


[29-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Phelan#7647
What if it's a drunk driver or traffic stop. No way to prove that they don't have a gun and is willing to use it


[29-Jul-20 07:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I NEED MORE CHEESE
_pulls gun_


[29-Jul-20 07:25 AM] wren#0114
what situation warrant social worker response? and what power would social workers have? like, would they be able to report things on you, or would they only escort you to care facilities like a hospital, or would they only have power to talk to you?


[29-Jul-20 07:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it depends on the department the social worker is part of


[29-Jul-20 07:25 AM] wren#0114
if they can make a decision that affects your life, like reporting you or making you go somewhere, then it might escalate things


[29-Jul-20 07:26 AM] wren#0114
like the fear of that could escalate the situation, like with cops now


[29-Jul-20 07:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would imagine they;d have a situation ranking system, like medics and firefighters have


[29-Jul-20 07:26 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, you realistically need to arm them somehow and then they just become cops under a different name.


[29-Jul-20 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this type of thing is why we have ambulences now


[29-Jul-20 07:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police used to be in charge of delivering people to hospitals and that didnt go so well


[29-Jul-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114
idk, if there were less invasive tiers of responders, it might not warrant arming them. maybe self defense stuff


[29-Jul-20 07:27 AM] Phelan#7647
If you guarantee that the person being talked to won't escalate, yea, I'd agree with you that unarmed social workers would be great for mild stuff.


[29-Jul-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114
no idea how that would play out irl tho


[29-Jul-20 07:28 AM] wren#0114
I wonder if somewhere can try stuff like this to test it


[29-Jul-20 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also need servicepeople trained in psychology


[29-Jul-20 07:30 AM] wren#0114
that would be helpful


[29-Jul-20 07:30 AM] Phelan#7647
You can't really do that without increasing funding imo tho.


[29-Jul-20 07:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police are not trained in psychology, outside of how to use it for escalation purposes


[29-Jul-20 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a counseler would be trained in psychology


[29-Jul-20 07:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police should also require training of up to 2 years or more


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Phelan#7647
The problem is all your solutions imply a greater budget despite wanting to reduce the budget.

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[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
is there any country which require 2 years of psycological training for police?


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] wren#0114
marines training is 1 year, 3 months boot camp 5-7 months technical job training. 2 years seems like a long time of training


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] Phelan#7647
I don't think so


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
training in general, not just psychological training


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
if marines are your standard for quality idk what you're tryna tell us lmao


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] wren#0114
imo entry level should be about however long it is now, but as you rank up there should be specialist training


[29-Jul-20 07:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and there are quite a few countries that require 2 to 4 years and a college degree


[29-Jul-20 07:34 AM] wren#0114
marines because that's my only experience with training lmao


[29-Jul-20 07:34 AM] wren#0114
don't read into it much


[29-Jul-20 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
most places require significantly more police training in the real first world where police aren't known for murdering people all the time


[29-Jul-20 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
so it sounds like all that extra training helps lol


[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police also need to be trained in de-escalation tacticsw isntead of just beign traiend to rely on their tazers everytime a perp breaks out of an arrest hold


[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Most places doesnt have gun problems as big as US


[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
which means the US needs more training years if anything yes, you're right


[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] wren#0114
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-training-weeks-united-states/

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Some U.S. police train for just a few weeks, in some countries they...
Norway and Finland require a three-year police education, ending with a bachelor's degree in policing
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[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] wren#0114
16 weeks, so a year and a quarter training

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[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
No wait,i know one place-Brazil,cops also shoot first ask questions later


[29-Jul-20 07:35 AM] wren#0114
(Minneapolis )


[29-Jul-20 07:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwEYhIX4cbM&t=28s this guy also needs to be barred from speaking at police training seminars

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[29-Jul-20 07:36 AM] wren#0114

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[29-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
guy talks like cops are Spartans


[29-Jul-20 07:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This man is dave grossman and he;s a goddamned psychopath


[29-Jul-20 07:37 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
~~They arent Spartans?~~


[29-Jul-20 07:38 AM] Honahue#0656
I;m sure a lot have stickers on their trucks that say Molon Labe


[29-Jul-20 07:39 AM] wren#0114
what do you mean


[29-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
molon labe mean come and take, it was what Leonidus said to the Persians when they asked for him to put down his weapons


[29-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
it's since become a phrase associated with US gun culture


[29-Jul-20 07:40 AM] Phelan#7647
It's basically a saying like "from my cold dead hands"


[29-Jul-20 07:40 AM] wren#0114
yeah but how would that apply to cops


[29-Jul-20 07:40 AM] wren#0114
that seems more like gun rights ppl


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cops are gun rights people


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Honahue#0656
there's a lot of overlap yea


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Phelan#7647
And?


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Just googled what u need to be a cop in russia-age 18-35,high school,good health and physical,and surety from cop with at least 3 years expirience


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
how would that apply to their job?


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
surety?


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
oh interesting


[29-Jul-20 07:41 AM] Phelan#7647
Should someone be barred from a job because of their politics opinions? What are you getting at?


[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk how to translate that word correctly


[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, he said thst sounds liek a gun rights phrase and i was saying it is


[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] wren#0114
kind of like with engineering work that affects lives, you have to work under someone who signs off on your work for years until you get certified yourself


[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Recommendation?@Smug Trixie

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[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[29-Jul-20 07:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That wasnt anything negative towards gun rights people, i;m just saying a lot of cops are gun rights people


[29-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Honahue#0656
I'm saying that a lot of cops would like to think of themselves as Spartans which seems bad as they were only capable of become the warrior types they were cause they had massive amounts of slavery


[29-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Honahue#0656
but everyone like 300


[29-Jul-20 07:43 AM] wren#0114
confused


[29-Jul-20 07:43 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The film is disgusting tbh. I never liked  that inflated pathos.


[29-Jul-20 07:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve never seen it


[29-Jul-20 07:44 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They also portrayed spartan enemies as satanists kinda.


[29-Jul-20 07:44 AM] wren#0114
persians btfo


[29-Jul-20 07:45 AM] wren#0114
except they kinda won :golly:

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[29-Jul-20 07:45 AM] Honahue#0656
Zack Snyder certainly has a style but he's a big Ayn Rand fanboy so he manages to miss the point entirely when adapting Watchmen


[29-Jul-20 07:46 AM] Honahue#0656
and 300 was just huge machismo wank fest of a movie

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[29-Jul-20 07:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the major problem with cops and guns is that a lot of cops use their guns and tasers for every situation indiscriminately whether it's a mundane traffic stop or a violent felon


[29-Jul-20 07:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt every cop but it;s a significant enough problem


[29-Jul-20 07:47 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm not a fan of Ayn Rand, not because of her politics, but because she's not the greatest writer.


[29-Jul-20 07:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
why not both


[29-Jul-20 07:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the bad writing kinda overshadows just how bonkers her view of economics was


[29-Jul-20 07:49 AM] Phelan#7647
I guess she was a bit far left economically for me :^)


[29-Jul-20 07:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, rand is all about the libertarian wet dream


[29-Jul-20 07:51 AM] Phelan#7647
If you want to read a real lib-right book, best bet is Lolita.

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[29-Jul-20 08:04 AM] Marches[45]#0674
She spoke of libertarian wet dreams, but her lifestyle contradicted that.


[29-Jul-20 08:05 AM] Phelan#7647
Eh, if you pay into a system, it's not unreasonable to use the system.


[29-Jul-20 08:07 AM] byte[]#2610
Even total hypocrite brainlets like Rand deserve social security


[29-Jul-20 08:07 AM] Opponent#3498
someone not living what they preach or failing to make it work isn't nessesarily the damnation of the idea.


[29-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Opponent#3498
that said, in this case, there's a reason why 'you should read Ayn Rand' became such a meme, as well as people repeating that.


[29-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Opponent#3498
even if it is from a position of success.


[29-Jul-20 08:08 AM] Honahue#0656
Rands ideas fall apart completely on their own


[29-Jul-20 08:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's just feudalism with extra steps


[29-Jul-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.businessinsider.com/600-unemployment-bonus-payments-dont-cause-less-work-yale-2020-7

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[29-Jul-20 08:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1288358406244376577

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[29-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
that firework was so dangerous they just stood there after it went off


[29-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
the mortal danger that police face is astounding


[29-Jul-20 09:03 AM] Crow#5457
||/s||


[29-Jul-20 09:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/cqlDNN9o2n8

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[29-Jul-20 09:13 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
firework can fuck you your ears for a while or even permanent if its blow up too close @Crow


[29-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Honahue#0656
they all wearing Peltor earpro and comms in that image


[29-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, they look like they're wearing hearing protection


[29-Jul-20 09:14 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Not every cop got one of these


[29-Jul-20 09:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/vKwviYxWORg imagine these in US

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[29-Jul-20 09:16 AM] wren#0114
pls no


[29-Jul-20 09:17 AM] Crow#5457
those used to be used a lot in the US back in like 2012, then the obama administration clamped down hard on the surplus military vehicles and whatnot being sold (and sometimes given for free) to police departments with the gun emplacements replaced with water and sonic cannons


[29-Jul-20 09:21 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/tRyIUzsDIz0

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[29-Jul-20 09:26 AM] Crow#5457
they're claiming he shot first, but there's literally no one reporting that, he approached the driver's side window of the driver of a car that drove right up to the protesters while nearly hitting them, and the driver opened fire and struck him


[29-Jul-20 09:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/what-we-know-so-far-about-the-investigation-into-the-deadly-shooting-at-an-austin-protest/

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[29-Jul-20 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keB4CL3AuuA

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[29-Jul-20 09:29 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nice racist site


[29-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, anyone who lives in Europe is European regardless of race so I guess it's more... "continental-ist?"


[29-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL2YdBzJA7c crossover episode we all needed

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[29-Jul-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457
the police department is blaming garrett for his death because he was carrying a gun, even though there were plenty of people carrying guns at the anti-mask protests


[29-Jul-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
the double standards being applied when it comes to exercising the second amendment is amazing


[29-Jul-20 09:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Where's the NRA defending Garret's right to carry?


[29-Jul-20 09:33 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that california has its restrictive gun laws today because the democratic governor ronald reagan pushed them through after black panthers peacefully marched on the state capital while open carrying


[29-Jul-20 09:33 AM] wren#0114
this is the closest I've seen of gun pointing

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[29-Jul-20 09:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Reagan was a Republican but yes.


[29-Jul-20 09:35 AM] Crow#5457
no, he was a democrat when he was the governor of california


[29-Jul-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```Nice racist site```


[29-Jul-20 09:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh! I actually didn't know that, thank you.


[29-Jul-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not the site, it's EU to blame. Their new rules on 'muh privacy' are supremely disrupting for the majority of sites.


[29-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
and don't do shit to prevent the sale and redistribution of data anyway.


[29-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
that law doesnt apply to russia


[29-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
oh nvm, he switched parties before he became governor


[29-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Crow#5457
so he was republican when he was governor


[29-Jul-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well someone decided it does.


[29-Jul-20 09:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, it was around the time the parties started flipping so that makes sense.


[29-Jul-20 09:39 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://cdn4.liveleak.com/2020/Jul/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-IMG_1641_1595808866.mp4.5f1e1c757906a.mp4?secure=GKprjREO39pTWWFS1K5SyA==,1596009784

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[29-Jul-20 09:42 AM] Opponent#3498
fuck around and find out though.


[29-Jul-20 09:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think the cops should back off just a bit. Maintain a presence in case of actual rioting or violence and step in *only* then, but pushing back legitimate protesters and antagonizing them isn't necessary. This only escalates things.

I'm not saying it's wise or even right to do what this woman did; I certainly wouldn't have done this. But I am saying it shouldn't have ever come to that point.


[29-Jul-20 09:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/2K2ygHLHS2w

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[29-Jul-20 09:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Either way, almost *all* this civil unrest would cease if we could get some meaningful changes to policy. Broad-sweeping reform that holds police accountable and subjects them to *real* consequences for brutality or other abuses of their position.


[29-Jul-20 09:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
as i said not every cop have military grade gear,they mostly have a shitty riot helmet


[29-Jul-20 09:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't defend the rioting, but I understand why it's happening, and I also don't think you can realistically expect it to stop until things change.


[29-Jul-20 09:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
you can if you apply enough force and change laws about protesting like russia did


[29-Jul-20 09:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do you think that's a good idea?


[29-Jul-20 09:48 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
No


[29-Jul-20 09:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
ah yes, russia, famous for human rights


[29-Jul-20 09:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good.


[29-Jul-20 09:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://cdn4.liveleak.com/2020/Jul/26/LiveLeak-dot-com-IMG_0910_1595822019.mp4.5f1e4ff883353.mp4?secure=mhlSVk-5FPA2KUjFwKfYRQ==,1596010439 Some wise words

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[29-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"I'm not worried about being killed by the police because I'm not a criminal"

**LOOOOOOL**


[29-Jul-20 09:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because police have such a great record of just shooting violent criminals, of course!


[29-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Opponent#3498
to be honest that's quite fair. He doesn't say that won't happen


[29-Jul-20 09:52 AM] Opponent#3498
he's saying he's not worried about it, i.e. the odds are low enough.


[29-Jul-20 09:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The odds aren't low enough. And if you're black, they're higher.

Not just being killed, but being non-lethally brutalized as well. Police are just way more prone to being physically aggressive with black people, regardless of how cooperative they are.


[29-Jul-20 09:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And the real problem is that they get *away* with it. Not that it happens constantly, but that the ones who this get slaps on the wrist, paid leave, maybe a transfer to another department if they're really unlucky.


[29-Jul-20 09:54 AM] Opponent#3498
well, then he's blessed in his ignorance :D


[29-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Phelan#7647
Wasn't it like something like 9 unarmed black deaths caused by cops last year?


[29-Jul-20 09:55 AM] Phelan#7647
Like, that's 9 too many, but it's not like in the thousands like some people make it out to be.


[29-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

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[29-Jul-20 09:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The cops who killed Breanna Taylor in her *own home* weren't charged. The cop who strangled Eric Garner - a nonviolent *misdemeanor* offender who was selling cigarettes - wasn't charged. The cop who shot Philando Castile for mentioning that he had a gun was charged but acquitted.


[29-Jul-20 09:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is the problem. Not that it's happening every single day but that the system does not *do anything about* it. It lets murderers with badges get away with taking peoples' lives, and that is why people have taken to the streets.


[29-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Opponent#3498
also fair.


[29-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
if they werent charged then it means they did everything according to protocols


[29-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
problem is not a cops but laws


[29-Jul-20 09:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No, many of these cops were fired but not found guilty of a crime.


[29-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Honahue#0656
"we investigated ourselves and determained we did nothing wrong"


[29-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Phelan#7647
While I disagree that cops should've been involved with the Breanna Taylor situation (no knocks are dumb unless you need a swat team), wasn't she caught in the crossfire. Like, her boyfriend shot at the police.


[29-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So protocol *was* broken, clearly.

That they weren't charged or were acquitted shows *corruption*, not that these cops were acting justly.


[29-Jul-20 09:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
isnt there a federal investigations?


[29-Jul-20 10:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, he thought the cops were burglars. *Understandably.*


[29-Jul-20 10:01 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I'm not saying that there should have been a no-knock, but if you're getting fired at, I think it's justified to shoot back.

Basically, both sides thought they were acting in self defense.


[29-Jul-20 10:01 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
But cops were wearing a uniform and a badge,dont they?


[29-Jul-20 10:01 AM] Phelan#7647
Problem is that it was a no-knock raid, which is just smashing the door open.


[29-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem is that the no-knock entry was an act of aggression. It's not "self defense" when you instigated the problem in the first place.

In the middle of the night, when someone breaks into your house out of nowhere you're not going to immediately know *who* they are.


[29-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If someone broke into my house, I'd absolutely instinctively reach for my gun. It's the one reason I own the thing.


[29-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Phelan#7647
If you shoot at a cop, they're gonna shoot back.


[29-Jul-20 10:02 AM] Phelan#7647
Oh I agree with you, not saying that you shouldn't. I would as well.


[29-Jul-20 10:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But he didn't know they were cops. I'm saying the cops have *all* the blame here because they should not have done this.


[29-Jul-20 10:04 AM] Phelan#7647
I think the no knock raid law should be changed, but trying for murder isn't gonna get you anywhere. The police entered the building and they got fired upon, that's all they knew.


[29-Jul-20 10:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No reasonable officer expects to be able to just burst into someone's private residence and not be met with aggression.


[29-Jul-20 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were also in the wrong house if i;m remembering details right


[29-Jul-20 10:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think criminally negligent homicide should at least be applied to these officers.


[29-Jul-20 10:06 AM] Phelan#7647
You're not understanding me, they got fired upon and they shot back. If anyone were to fire upon me, I'm firing back as well. I'm also firing my way at anyone that breaks into my house. The problem isn't with the officers, the problem is the no-knock raid laws.


[29-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The law did get changed, incidentally.


[29-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[29-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*On June 10 the Louisville city council voted unanimously to ban no-knock search warrants. The law is called Breonna's Law and requires all officers who serve warrants to wear body cameras and have them turned on from at least five minutes before the warrant is served to at least five minutes after.*

So hey, progress at least.


[29-Jul-20 10:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This stuff needs to be banned nation-wide though. Every precinct in America should be banned from no-knock warrants.


[29-Jul-20 10:08 AM] Phelan#7647
Good that the law got changed. I think that, if you don't need a SWAT team, you shouldn't do a no-knock raid.


[29-Jul-20 10:09 AM] Opponent#3498
true. The police expect to be protected by their status? Well, they should announce such.


[29-Jul-20 10:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one no knock warrant incident involved police just standing outside a home and bombarding it with tear gas canisters until the hosue was filled with enough tear gas to make it unlivable for while


[29-Jul-20 10:10 AM] Opponent#3498
nobody can be expected to respond correctly to something they're not aware of.


[29-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Phelan#7647
What was the reason for the warrant?


[29-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Phelan#7647
If it's something like a hostage situation or a bomb, sure, I think no-knocks are fine.


[29-Jul-20 10:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A lot of this stuff isn't even for crimes that are particularly dangerous or harmful.

Like, unless you're dealing with a murderer or kidnapper or something it's not that urgent, dude. It's often some bullshit drug charge.


[29-Jul-20 10:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was a single woman living at home with no oen else there


[29-Jul-20 10:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What did they suspect her of doing, exactly?


[29-Jul-20 10:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
finding the exact story is going to take awhile


[29-Jul-20 10:13 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, pretty much everyone I know disagree with how they're used most of the time nowadays.


[29-Jul-20 10:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I will say, on a tangent, this is why I'm for the decriminalization of *all* drugs.

I don't like even drugs. I think taking them's a bad idea. But I also think that if some other person wants to put a bunch of dangerous crap in their body, it's no skin off my nose. It's certainly not something anyone should be arrested for.


[29-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
You cant decriminalize all drugs dude,there is super addictive shit like heroine,noone should use it


[29-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's one of the few points libertarian conservatives and I see eye to eye on.


[29-Jul-20 10:15 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I support weak drugs decriminalization but not strong one


[29-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Should someone be thrown into *prison* for heroin though?


[29-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe mandatory rehab, sure, but prison? Who are we protecting by doing that?


[29-Jul-20 10:16 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes,urge for new dose could make you do some shitty stuff to others


[29-Jul-20 10:17 AM] Phelan#7647
Oh, he's not talking about legalization, talking about decriminalization, basically, for harder drugs, the punishment would be rehab and maybe a fine.


[29-Jul-20 10:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can;t find the story


[29-Jul-20 10:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant#Controversy i did find this list of some incidents involving no knocks though

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[29-Jul-20 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
mandatory rehab would be quite a bit more useful than prison.


[29-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't even think non-violent offenders at *all* should be in prison.

Prison is a place of quarantine, to keep truly dangerous people away from the rest of society. I think all non-violent criminals should face some other kind of consequence. Fines and community service are more than sufficient to deter illegal acts that don't actually endanger anyone.


[29-Jul-20 10:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Murderers and rapists and other truly *dangerous* people, sure, put them in prison. They're a danger to society otherwise. But a lot of people behind bars should not be there.


[29-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/-kj7JUVGZ_A

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[29-Jul-20 10:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we also need to do away with quotas and shutr down the private prison industry


[29-Jul-20 10:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Absolutely.


[29-Jul-20 10:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a serious conflict of interest when people profit off of incarceration.


[29-Jul-20 10:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
quotas are part of why prisons are so stuffed with small time offenders


[29-Jul-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
legal slavery is monumentally fucked up


[29-Jul-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
if prison jobs exist they should be public service minwage jobs where you could choose to sacrifice some amount of wage for time off jail perhaps


[29-Jul-20 10:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
fix the damn shitty american roads and such perhaps, you really have horrifying potholes everywhere like it's fine and normal


[29-Jul-20 10:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My state has Angola, a prison that has goddamn gladiator games where it sends untrained prisoners out to fight bulls.

True, the prisoners in question "choose" to do it for the chance to win a (fairly small) monetary prize, but this kind of exploitation of prisoners shouldn't be allowed to begin with. Preying on their desperation to risk their lives for peoples' entertainment is supremely fucked up.


[29-Jul-20 10:24 AM] wren#0114
where are these potholes lel


[29-Jul-20 10:24 AM] Synfag#9241
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[29-Jul-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
well my friend who rides a bike to and from work tends to picture a bunch for me every so often


[29-Jul-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
so poorer areas likely, which need public assistance/funding.


[29-Jul-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
even places full of crackheads need properly paved roads


[29-Jul-20 10:26 AM] wren#0114
roads here aren't like that everywhere


[29-Jul-20 10:26 AM] wren#0114
even rural


[29-Jul-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
idk, compared to australia even in poorer areas they look nasty to me, though america probably has more trucks putting more wear on em


[29-Jul-20 10:26 AM] wren#0114
trucks would go on highways, which would have priority maintenance


[29-Jul-20 10:27 AM] wren#0114
probably, I don't work for dmv or pavers so idk for sure


[29-Jul-20 10:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Opponent#3498
shame it's not an article link though. Could still be fake.


[29-Jul-20 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/william-barr-denies-testifying-before-congress

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[29-Jul-20 10:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aw it;s satire


[29-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
*clickbait

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[29-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Phelan#7647
I mean, I don't like Jeff Bezos but he's not actually [net worth] rich. Like, he couldn't cash out.


[29-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVyCP-V5aHI

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[29-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Phelan#7647
He owns something like 11% of Amazon, if he were to sell it, the price of Amazon would collapse.


[29-Jul-20 10:41 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/BbKvhnLoV0Q

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[29-Jul-20 10:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a real click baity title


[29-Jul-20 10:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a video of news casters saying peaceful protest a bunch


[29-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
yep


[29-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
and then protests doesnt seems that peacefully


[29-Jul-20 10:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Incorrect. The overwhelming majority of protests are peaceful.


[29-Jul-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, there's fire in the background while people in the forefront walk around peacefully


[29-Jul-20 10:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
clearly the people walking around are being violent as shit


[29-Jul-20 10:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Smug Trixie, I feel like you're not really participating in the discussion so much as just kinda throwing videos at us. I'm fine with engaging with you in good-faith debate but that requires you presenting your own stances and arguments. Let's talk about it! What's on your mind?


[29-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Police good left bad


[29-Jul-20 10:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Elaborate.


[29-Jul-20 10:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do you think the left generally wants there to be *no* police? Because I'm pretty far left and that's not my position or a mainstream position in leftist politics.


[29-Jul-20 10:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
You know,police force just trying to keep everything in order and most of those "racist" cops arent racist,just wrong place at wrong time,and suspects doesnt make its easy for them,in 70% of police videos i've seen its their own fault


[29-Jul-20 10:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So by your own estimation, cops use unnecessary force fucking *30%* of the time?


[29-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's incredibly high and absolutely unacceptable if true.


[29-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I guess but hey it could be much worse


[29-Jul-20 10:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Plus if they do something unlawful u can sue government for millions


[29-Jul-20 10:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's a nothing argument.

It could be worse. It could also be better. I ask you: *Should* it be better? Shouldn't we *always* strive to make things better instead of just throwing up our hands and saying, "Well, it could be worse?"


[29-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
We sure must strive to make things better but burning houses and throwing fireworks at cops doesnt seems like a way to make anything better


[29-Jul-20 10:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I agree. Now, you didn't say *rioting* bad though. You said leftists in general in this situation.


[29-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Phelan#7647
Smug isn't saying it's not a problem, he's saying that many times people say it's police brutality, it really isn't. Obviously 0 police brutality events would be ideal.

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[29-Jul-20 10:54 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its all politics,like people should vote for senators thats could change it


[29-Jul-20 10:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then I'm gonna need some elaboration on "cops good leftists bad" as it pertains to these protests. Explain your position in more words than that, please, so I can understand where you're coming from.


[29-Jul-20 11:02 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk what to explain,as far as i see it most of police force are just doing their jobs to protect citizens as good as they can and left wing just bad,they always want to change things to the worse


[29-Jul-20 11:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's awfully unspecific.


[29-Jul-20 11:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You're essentially saying "Your side is bad because they're bad" which isn't falsifiable or really possible to argue with.


[29-Jul-20 11:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What *specific* left-wing policy proposals about police reform do you disagree with?


[29-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
all i know is that they want to take a budget from police and distribute it between something


[29-Jul-20 11:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
its bad cause imagine if cops couldnt afford to wear a bulletproof wests,or couldnt afford SWAT teams


[29-Jul-20 11:11 AM] wren#0114
there needs to be accountability and oversight


[29-Jul-20 11:11 AM] wren#0114
I've seen people talk about precincts where cops file and then process their own use of force reports


[29-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I can list some of the things we're proposing if it helps:

- Ending qualified immununity nationwide, which currently prevents cops from civil suits if they violate someone's rights on the job

- Ban cops from performing chokeholds on *anyone.* You have handcuffs, and you have squad cars that are incredibly difficult to escape from if you need to detain someone. There is no reason to hold someone down by the fucking neck.

- Requiring better overhead and accountability for offending officers, like hardline, non-negotiable consequences when an officer disables their body camera or uses excessive force. 

- Banning no-knock warrants nationwide

- Ban racial profiling from police; While individual officers profiling isn't always provable, we can at least start by dealing with chiefs and precincts who openly tell their officers to focus on searching and stopping minorities. Overt, intentional, blatant profiling should at least be stopped.

Now, do any of these proposals strike you as unreasonable or disagreeable?


[29-Jul-20 11:14 AM] wren#0114
I don't know much about qualified immunity


[29-Jul-20 11:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If you'd like to read up on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity

> In the United States, the doctrine of qualified immunity grants government officials performing discretionary functions immunity from civil suits unless the plaintiff shows that the official violated "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known".

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[29-Jul-20 11:15 AM] wren#0114
I think those points are reasonable. I'd personally add that there should be some form of accountability required that is not just the officer or close supervisor


[29-Jul-20 11:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
internal investigations also needs to be it;s own organization, police cant keep policing themselves


[29-Jul-20 11:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, 100% agreed.


[29-Jul-20 11:16 AM] wren#0114
chokeholds like kneeling on someone prone heck no. chokehold like non-lethal knockout hold during a scuffle gone real bad, I'm not against


[29-Jul-20 11:17 AM] wren#0114
accountability and separation of authority/power is one of the principles I hold most dear about the Constitution


[29-Jul-20 11:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" is a meme for a reason


[29-Jul-20 11:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. At this point I feel like we could use an entire agency of its own devoted to investigating the police.


[29-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Something not affiliated with them in any way.


[29-Jul-20 11:18 AM] wren#0114
I feel like that might have to be implemented locally first to test new systems


[29-Jul-20 11:19 AM] wren#0114
I don't feel qualified to argue one way or another on nationwide mandate for such a change, because I haven't read enough about the field


[29-Jul-20 11:22 AM] Opponent#3498
>tfw yet another alphabet agency


[29-Jul-20 11:23 AM] Opponent#3498
still, that does seem like the... only availble solution really.


[29-Jul-20 11:26 AM] wren#0114
well it could be local not federal


[29-Jul-20 11:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 11:30 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its gotta be federal,otherwise police just gonna give bribes to that agency


[29-Jul-20 11:31 AM] wren#0114
why?


[29-Jul-20 11:31 AM] wren#0114
like how is that guaranteed to be the outcome


[29-Jul-20 11:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
becAUSE that's how internal investigations are currently run


[29-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hm. I could see how it might help if the investigators are from out of town entirely.

If it's local, there could be conflicts of interest.


[29-Jul-20 11:32 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Demand #2 and #5 are dumb cause chockehold is very effective against violent criminals,just watch videos where cops trying to handcuff someone,sometimes even 2 officers coudnt handcuff a buff guy and #5 doesnt seems like true to me

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[29-Jul-20 11:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's literally cases on file of chiefs and precincts making it *policy* to focus harder on minorities. Whether it "seems true" is irrelevant. It objectively is.


[29-Jul-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s federal, then it;s more likely to be upkept by strangers who don;t knwo any of the police personally, if done locally, the investigaTIOn force might be full of friends of the police who will "Let it slide, this time"


[29-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Every police chief have one of those or its just a single case of some racist police chief?


[29-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You do know there's a large swath *between* "every" and "just one."


[29-Jul-20 11:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But I'll ask


[29-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If it *was* just one, why not institute a sweeping ban and *take care* of that one?


[29-Jul-20 11:35 AM] Monchy#8512
“ cases on file of chiefs and precincts making it policy to focus harder on minorities” What do you mean by this? I’d be shocked if saying that openly wasn’t an immediate firing already. I know there was some big stink where I live about more random stops on minorities and the police departments response was they put more officers where there’s more crime and that happens to correspond with where there’s a higher concentration of minorities. I don’t see anything wrong with that.


[29-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/joins-class-action-suit-nypd-article-1.2685918

An NYPD captain outright told a cop that he needed to stop and frisk more black people.

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[29-Jul-20 11:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Specifically black people, not "high-risk" or "high-crime" areas or other euphemisms. He just straight-up said black. And wasn't fired; he was promoted. Lest you think this is heresay, the conversation was recorded.


[29-Jul-20 11:37 AM] Monchy#8512
lol alright that's really bad


[29-Jul-20 11:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think if a concrete ban on overt racial profiling were in place, then at the very least blatant and open stuff like this could be stopped.


[29-Jul-20 11:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And it's true, cops who want to racially profile will just change the wording around and be less obvious, perhaps, but I still think officially banning the practice matters.


[29-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
many of the things noted are regulatiory issues rather than abuses, so yes, it can be legislated away.


[29-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes. I want to clarify again, I do not think most officers are violent or abusive. I just think that the system does not adequately deal with those who are.


[29-Jul-20 11:41 AM] Opponent#3498
body cam penalties, you'll face pushback on that, guaranteed. It also should be done, but it will never be enforced as written. It would ideally make it so that it takes more effort to abuse the cameras, which is really the desired effect.


[29-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Crow#5457
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[29-Jul-20 11:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Based lefty gun-owners. I'm glad to see more of the left coming around on 2A.

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[29-Jul-20 11:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Marx himself believed the workers should be armed: “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempts to disarm the people must be stopped, by force if necessary."

I *am* for gun regulation, now. As a gun owner myself, I think we could do with a few more hoops to jump through to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Background checks, waiting periods to reduce impulse gun purchases, etc.

It wouldn't counteract all gun crime but I feel like it could help.

Like many things, there's a lot of positions between "Ban them all" and "Don't regulate anything."


[29-Jul-20 11:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
what do u think about assault rifles?


[29-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're already banned from civilian ownership.

Semiautomatics are not considered assault rifles.


[29-Jul-20 11:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
U can make it automatic with some mods


[29-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
And as far as i know there is some left from 60's


[29-Jul-20 11:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
fully automated rifles


[29-Jul-20 11:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, and I'm for regulations against that kind of modification. While I'm all for arming ourselves, I don't think just *anyone* should have fully automatic weapons.


[29-Jul-20 11:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's too easy to get guns as it is, even though - again - I'm pro second-amendment. I just don't see stricter regulation as "infringement."


[29-Jul-20 11:56 AM] wren#0114
auto on rifles is dum


[29-Jul-20 11:56 AM] wren#0114
useless


[29-Jul-20 11:56 AM] wren#0114
I think we should have tanks


[29-Jul-20 11:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We won't be satisfied until every American can own their own personal nuke.


[29-Jul-20 11:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Whats stopping you from owning one wren?


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
a tank or a nuke


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.drivetanks.com/own-one/

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[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
several things either way


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
both primarily money


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, you can own a tank but the gun has to be disabled.


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
>demiliatarized main gun


[29-Jul-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
SHALL NOT


[29-Jul-20 12:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd rather get one of these bad boys https://megabots.com/

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[29-Jul-20 12:01 PM] wren#0114
LEWD


[29-Jul-20 12:01 PM] wren#0114
texas has its own air force


[29-Jul-20 12:01 PM] wren#0114
states need more arms


[29-Jul-20 12:02 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure you can have a functioning gun as well, but that's even more expensive.


[29-Jul-20 12:03 PM] Opponent#3498
and each individual round 20mm and above is a destructive device, with some exceptions.


[29-Jul-20 12:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i've made my choice

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[29-Jul-20 12:05 PM] wren#0114
kek


[29-Jul-20 12:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

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[29-Jul-20 12:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
remember umbrella man before who smashed windows?


[29-Jul-20 12:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Imagine my shock.


[29-Jul-20 12:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn it's almost like the word 'agitators' probably includes them


[29-Jul-20 12:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Maybe umbrella man a time traveler or alien.


[29-Jul-20 12:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
but no it's those evil far left anteeefa supersoldiers


[29-Jul-20 12:38 PM] wren#0114
um, sweaty, the only supersoldier is captain america


[29-Jul-20 12:39 PM] wren#0114
the serum formula got destroyed


[29-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Synfag#9241
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[29-Jul-20 01:23 PM] Synfag#9241
> *Prescription D reduction!*

this will be memed so hard.


[29-Jul-20 01:24 PM] illumnious#7938

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[29-Jul-20 01:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288433749156388864?s=21

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Vote these people out. They are CRAZY!  #2020 https://t.co/ktRw2pJUFa
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[29-Jul-20 01:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's so goddamn whiny.

No president in either party since Nixon has been this insecure about his public image.


[29-Jul-20 01:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bush was an idiot but he was a secure idiot who didn't constantly go on rants about how the country's too mean to him.


[29-Jul-20 01:36 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s bitchy I know


[29-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
wait, what


[29-Jul-20 01:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The new doctor Trump's touting over Fauci

*Immanuel has claimed in the past that some gynecological ailments are caused by people having sex in a dream-world with demons, with the demonic semen as the origins of the afflictions.*

I think Trump's promoting a goddamn *witch*doctor


[29-Jul-20 01:51 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[29-Jul-20 03:08 PM] illumnious#7938
:wheeze: :wheeze:


[29-Jul-20 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now let me tell you why this doctor who gave me cocaine for the ghosts in my blood is the best guy ever!"


[29-Jul-20 04:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jayapal-excoriated-barr-over-response-to-black-lives-matter-protests-2020-7

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[29-Jul-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/US/couple-wore-swastika-masks-banned-walmart-year/story?id=72008017

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Couple who wore swastika masks banned from Walmart for a year
Couple who wore swastika masks banned from Walmart for a year; video of the incident has gone viral.
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[29-Jul-20 04:27 PM] Marches[45]#0674
@Dr. Mechano Now if only particular Britons could be convinced of your reasonable application of 2A instead of wanting to burn it.


[29-Jul-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPWqWpO0no i finally found a version of the video with no news reporter talking over it

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Couple Wear Nazi Face Masks At WalMart In Minnesota
#WalMart  Marshall, Minnesota- A couple wore Nazi face masks with swastikas in WalMart
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[29-Jul-20 04:35 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
hahah wtf


[29-Jul-20 04:59 PM] Phelan#7647
>censoring it
Literally why, are they worried that seeing a swastika will "radicalize them" or something


[29-Jul-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
just because, what, are you a nazi or something? :twismug:


[29-Jul-20 05:05 PM] Phelan#7647
Nah, it's just pretty stupid. I think everyone has seen a swastika before. Seems pointless to blur it out.


[29-Jul-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably fcc regulation regarding basic cable channels and the fact that the video/image was likely ripped directly from their tv news


[29-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Phelan#7647
The FCC says that they don't regulate information posted on the internet, even if it's a news station


[29-Jul-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Well yes but they likely just took the footage directly off their tv news program


[29-Jul-20 05:43 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1288500180065624066?s=21

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Gen Z finding out that Trump is banning TikTok https://t.co/zf6ZDlb2xa
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[29-Jul-20 05:43 PM] Opponent#3498
that's new.


[29-Jul-20 06:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/politics/us-withdraw-troops-germany/index.html

But dont worry guys he is 100% going to pay back a percentage of the us debt in 8 years despite spending billions on this move.

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The US is moving forward with President Donald Trump's plan to withdraw nearly 12,000 troops from Germany, a decision that has attracted bipartisan congressional opposition and roiled key allies who see the move as a blow to NATO.
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[29-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this sounds dumb.


[29-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
but then, it perfectly fits the character.


[29-Jul-20 06:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Can we have breakdown on these costs?!


[29-Jul-20 06:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Whenever I hear "bilions" which actually means they thumbsuck these numbers at random to justify funds theft.


[29-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
probably but if they're relocating continental HQs it could legitimately have this magnitude of cost.


[29-Jul-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Key command centers being moved
Key US command centers will also be repositioned as part of the move, Esper and top military leaders confirmed Wednesday.
Gen. Tod Wolters, the commander of US European Command and NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe, said the US would be moving EUCOM headquarters from Germany to Belgium as part of an effort to co-locate the command with the NATO military command headquarters that is based there, and that Africa Command headquarters may be moving to a location to be determined as well.
"We also intend to reposition three brigade-size headquarters, an air defense artillery battalion, and an engineering battalion to Belgium from Germany, and two smaller support and contracting organizations to Italy," Wolters told reporters at the Pentagon.
Wolters further specified that a F-16 fighter squadron would be moved from Germany to Italy, and that they anticipated moving two battalions from Germany to Italy as well."


[29-Jul-20 06:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
💸 💸 💸 💸 💸


[29-Jul-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is basicly waste of money.


[29-Jul-20 06:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/04/25/trump-takes-back-claim-he-could-eliminate-national-debt-n2152708 2016 Trump from a right wing sourse too : " tRUMP RESPoNDeD. “First oF alL, WIth lOw iNteRESt RaTeS, YOU CaN thinK IN TErMS of REfinAnCINgS, and Get it DowN. I BELiEVe You caN dO CeRTAIn thINGS TO Pay oFF The dEbt More QuICKly. tHE Most ImpORtaNt thing is To MAKe suRE tHe EcOnomY sTAyS StrOng. yOU cAN do It in smalLER cHunks. YOU cAn Do iT in LArgEr CHUnkS. aNd yOU cAN do it in REFINanCingS.”

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[29-Jul-20 06:39 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump in 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMCYBPUR00

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[29-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
I think everyone involved would stall till november anyway.


[29-Jul-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no point in going through with this if he loses.


[29-Jul-20 06:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/animegorilla/status/1288235577725386752?s=20

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[29-Jul-20 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
impressive boom.


[29-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fun fact: that explosion will take less money to repair then what Trump spent on the debt.

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[29-Jul-20 06:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
prob pipe bomb


[29-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or the money he stole from the defence bugit for his useless wall


[29-Jul-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
or the money he is useing to give Putin a gift of less solders in Germany


[29-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Demilitarization is bad now?


[29-Jul-20 06:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
plus is it really wise to keep soldiers in germany?


[29-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
it would be more efficient to keep them in countries that much closer to russia,like poland


[29-Jul-20 06:47 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah except they're not moving closer.


[29-Jul-20 06:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
When you are spending billions on that move that you don't need to do in a time of low US german relations, to move to Italy


[29-Jul-20 06:49 PM] Opponent#3498
also there's a difference between protecting Saudis and fighting some arabs in yet another islamist uprising, and balancing Europe and Russia. Stable NATO presence there also helps us specifically, so I can't in good faith argue against it.


[29-Jul-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admits-hes-never-mentioned-bounties-to-putin-because-he-thinks-its-fake-news

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[29-Jul-20 06:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
imo german military can do things on their own,after all they got leopard tanks which is kinda best tank worldwide


[29-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>German tanks


[29-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Good


[29-Jul-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
well they _are_ pretty good. In large part because a tank design outside China and Russia is an international affair now.


[29-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
HANS THE TRANSMISSION DIED AGAIN


[29-Jul-20 06:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/Qx2-jLNHdzY

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[29-Jul-20 06:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
hmmm a tank that was build in 40's


[29-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
https://youtu.be/dkKFfZnbi3c

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[29-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgSPFDexjLs

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Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank | GERMAN ENGINEERING
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[29-Jul-20 06:57 PM] Phelan#7647
@Smug Trixie I still love how that grandma posting a review of the vest is gonna be a lead on that terrorist.


[29-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
A: I'm jokeing B: lol they planed a tank that was the bainblade from 40k https://youtu.be/wRVgO-qWDLI

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[29-Jul-20 06:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/y2gx3m006pd51.png (the person's name was actually Karen)

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[29-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Phelan#7647
That's pretty obviously a joke lol


[29-Jul-20 07:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not only was her name Karen but people who think Karen is a slur are Karens.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Phelan#7647
The only time I've seen someone say that "karen" is a slur is when they're obviously a joke. Either they admit it or it becomes obvious later on in the thread.


[29-Jul-20 07:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Maybe but it's Tucker and it's fox news fans. There are probably taking it at face value.


[29-Jul-20 07:07 PM] Phelan#7647
Nah, the "ethnic" bit is the thing that makes me feel that he's joking. 
Also, he's talking about the NRCC, why would he actually criticise them?


[29-Jul-20 07:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eh, you got me there, fair point


[29-Jul-20 07:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/509543-gohmert-tests-positive-for-covid-19-report

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Gohmert tests positive for COVID-19
GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert (Texas), who has largely opted against wearing a mask around the Capitol, tested positive for COVID-19 on Wednesday, according to congressional aides.
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[29-Jul-20 07:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/509552-trump-says-republicans-criticizing-fbi-money-should-go-back-to-school

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Trump says Republicans criticizing FBI money should 'go back to sch...
"We have that in the bill. It should stay," Trump says after pushback from some GOP lawmakers.
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[29-Jul-20 07:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I thought for just a second that the article read "FBI money should go to Schools"


[29-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For a few seconds I was happy for Trump could have done something actualy really good and needed for Amereican public education.

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[29-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But no, It's just him being stupid as normal.


[29-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Unless that money is going to his rich buddies or blowing up foreigners he doesn’t care


[29-Jul-20 07:26 PM] >That Guy#3386
Does Trump even care about blowing up foreigners?


[29-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Speaking of money Trump is bragging about raising housing prices and killing affordable housing just as millions are about to be evicted


[29-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088?s=20

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I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...
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[29-Jul-20 07:27 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@>That Guy given how much money he gives to the military, probably


[29-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
TBF some of that money is illegally going to his useless ass wall


[29-Jul-20 07:28 PM] Marches[45]#0674
He should take a ride on Air Force One with Sen. Gohmert.


[29-Jul-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's also laundering money into his private businesses


[29-Jul-20 07:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
so yay i guess it isn't all blowing up foreigners, its being wasted on the wall. Illegally


[29-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh and it's being used to gas peaceful proststers so he can get in a photo op with an upside down bible


[29-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and kidnaping people in Portland


[29-Jul-20 07:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure _that_ funding comes entirely legally from other public sources.


[29-Jul-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
wow, that tweet is impressively off color even for him


[29-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
All that other stuff besides the wall is legally payed for yes.


[29-Jul-20 07:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
but still bad. like really really bad


[29-Jul-20 08:10 PM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/animegorilla/status/1288233974742028293?s=19

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shocking twist. The guy who threw an IED at the portland courthouse was identified in a review by his grandma who bought his gear. This might be the most embarrassing defeat of antifa yet. Grandmas lil revolutionary. Retweet for luls. Archive https://t.co/tadAPQNg1l
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[29-Jul-20 08:11 PM] Phelan#7647
Lol this thread


[29-Jul-20 08:12 PM] Phelan#7647
Wonder what the charges will be.


[29-Jul-20 08:13 PM] Phelan#7647
Heard he's already a convicted felon for assault and committed an act of terrorism while on probation.


[29-Jul-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Jul-20 08:20 PM] Phelan#7647
Mitt Romney is a hack


[29-Jul-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This may be true but he is not wrong in this case


[29-Jul-20 08:22 PM] wren#0114
how is it a gift to russia


[29-Jul-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't understand why we all laud and praise mitt romney for literally doing the bare minimum


[29-Jul-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no praise for him


[29-Jul-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-is-growing-target-for-china-and-russia-cannot-rely-on-trump-report-says-2020-7

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Germany is the new frontline in the West's cold war with Russia and...
Germany can no longer expect the US to "underpin" its security amid growing threat from Russia and China, a new report says.
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[29-Jul-20 08:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Mitt Romney is a snake, I fucking hate Russia (as a Ukrainian), but he's wrong. Foreign governments should pay their fair share of defense... Like they agreed to. Germany agreed to pay 2% of their GDP on defense and consistently fail to meet their targets. I think only 9 countries actually meet that 2% target.


[29-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Honahue#0656
the US puling out of Germany meanwhile Japan is like


[29-Jul-20 08:32 PM] Honahue#0656

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[29-Jul-20 08:34 PM] Phelan#7647
They'd need to realistically change their constitution before forcing the US out.


[29-Jul-20 08:35 PM] Honahue#0656
what about their constitution needs to change


[29-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Phelan#7647
Japan isn't allowed to have a military under Article 9 of their constitution.


[29-Jul-20 08:37 PM] Honahue#0656
so? they have the JDF


[29-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Phelan#7647
The JSDF is only so big, article 9 limits its size.


[29-Jul-20 08:38 PM] Honahue#0656
also there was a vote to repeal that part and Japan doesn't want a military


[29-Jul-20 08:39 PM] Phelan#7647
No... They're going to have a referendum. It hasn't happened yet.


[29-Jul-20 08:42 PM] wren#0114
lets fund the japs to invade china


[29-Jul-20 08:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[29-Jul-20 09:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Have another romp down in French Indo-China


[29-Jul-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-videotaped-ahmaud-arbery-death-child-molestation

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Man who videotaped Ahmaud Arbery's death subject of child molestati...
The Georgia man who videotaped the shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery is now the subject of a child molestation investigation, according to public records.
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[29-Jul-20 09:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/28/vance-ginn-texas-coronavirus/amp/

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In an interview, Vance Ginn said the intention of his Twitter thread was to outline the more thorough data provided by the state. He also said his tweet with a GIF was “woefully taken out of context out of bad faith.”
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[29-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Honahue#0656
it's not that the kids might die it's that the kids will bring it back to their parents or grandparents and they'll die, gone feel pretty shitty to feel like you orphaned yourself cause the government doesn't give a shit about you


[29-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Honahue#0656
tho kids dying will also happen and is equally bad


[29-Jul-20 09:41 PM] jlun2#8758
>  He also said his tweet with a GIF was “woefully taken out of context out of bad faith.”
its twitter wtf did you expect to happen. why are politicians even on it expecting intelligent feedback


[29-Jul-20 10:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the liberal ones tend to get some intelligent feedback in with the trollposts and vitriol


[29-Jul-20 10:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[29-Jul-20 10:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this about the guy who fired in the general direction of a jeep driving at a crowd of protesters, shooting 2 other protesters in the process?


[29-Jul-20 10:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
which was initially misreported as a drive-by shooting by eyewitnesses?


[29-Jul-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That meme got me confused as to what it is even about


[29-Jul-20 10:39 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tiktok-ban-china-app-pompeo-a9644041.html

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Trump says he is considering banning TikTok
In his typically vague-yet-ominous way, Donald Trump said his administration is "looking at" whether it might make a decision to shut down TikTok in the United States. The social media app is owned
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[29-Jul-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
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[29-Jul-20 10:41 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] so this means facebook will dominate whatever tiktok does rip


[29-Jul-20 10:41 PM] RYDE#8862
I don't need anything from Facebook.


[29-Jul-20 10:46 PM] byte[]#2610
nah, snapchat


[29-Jul-20 10:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mark-zuckerberg-hearing-donald-trump-jr-tweet-covid-hydroxychloroquine-a9644741.html

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Zuckerberg defends Twitter's decision to ban Trump Jr over 'harmful...
'I think what you're referring to happened on Twitter so it's hard for me to speak to that'
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[29-Jul-20 10:55 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-videotaped-ahmaud-arbery-death-child-molestation
@Teaspoon  what the flying fuck

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Man who videotaped Ahmaud Arbery's death subject of child molestati...
The Georgia man who videotaped the shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery is now the subject of a child molestation investigation, according to public records.
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[29-Jul-20 10:57 PM] wren#0114
a new challenger approaches

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[29-Jul-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kwcongressional/status/1288488480247549954?s=21

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They are now introducing a great deal of anime porn into the internet matrix.

Dragon Ball Z is one of the top issues here.

They are sexualizing cartoon characters to push a depraved agenda on our kids.

What’s next? Where will it end?
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[29-Jul-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
context? :roseconfused: @Itsthinking


[29-Jul-20 11:59 PM] jlun2#8758
is he new to the internet?


[30-Jul-20 12:02 AM] jlun2#8758
also the fact he's complaining about it almost certainly means he consumes tons of porn in secret


[30-Jul-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
nutter


[30-Jul-20 12:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[30-Jul-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
this is satire right


[30-Jul-20 12:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/2020-us-election-vote-trump-campaign-a8836076.html

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Opinion: America should allow other countries to vote in the 2020 e...
This is a country which calls itself 'leader of the Free World' and has huge global influence in terms of foreign policy and economics. Now that Trump won't acknowledge basic things like climate change, it's time other countries had a say
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[30-Jul-20 12:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's not.


[30-Jul-20 12:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Just checked.
This bitch is serious.


[30-Jul-20 12:29 AM] byte[]#2610
how about


[30-Jul-20 12:30 AM] byte[]#2610
the people who live here be the only ones represented in the vote


[30-Jul-20 12:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yes.


[30-Jul-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088
Mask off moment

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I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...
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[30-Jul-20 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah seriously lmao, that tweet is impressively off color even for him


[30-Jul-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just... barf


[30-Jul-20 12:49 AM] illumnious#7938
> a new challenger approaches
@wren  ohhhhhhhh shit


[30-Jul-20 12:51 AM] illumnious#7938
Not the Georgia man


[30-Jul-20 12:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Next up: Louisiana man?


[30-Jul-20 12:52 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tiktok-ban-china-app-pompeo-a9644041.html
@byte[]  that’s something I can give trump credit for

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Trump says he is considering banning TikTok
In his typically vague-yet-ominous way, Donald Trump said his administration is "looking at" whether it might make a decision to shut down TikTok in the United States. The social media app is owned
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/07/29/14/tiktok.jpg


[30-Jul-20 12:56 AM] illumnious#7938
> Next up: Louisiana man?
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈  soon™️


[30-Jul-20 01:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
`banning tiktok`
GOOD.


[30-Jul-20 01:13 AM] JC Denton#7076
oh noooo not my zoomer memes


[30-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When someone disagrees with me online


[30-Jul-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://youtu.be/S8h10S_9jTI

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Zoom Zoom
boy from Mazda commercial saying 'zoom zoom.' none of the other bullshit that you might see in other mazda zoom zoom videos. just the good stuff. we know why you're here
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[30-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Synfag#9241
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[30-Jul-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
How would you "ban" tiktok?


[30-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also while here eyes might be fairly closed, her skin for sure is not yellow.


[30-Jul-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
My skin's more yellow than that and I'm not Asian at all.


[30-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't even really get where the yellow skin thing comes from


[30-Jul-20 01:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who actually looks close to that


[30-Jul-20 01:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Asian peoples skin colours have a lot more colour range than European whites. The yellowish skin toned people seem to be what people latched on to. even though most are usually lighter than white people or a little darker.


[30-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, that's not it.


[30-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Literally it was an excuse to say they weren't white.


[30-Jul-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
After they resisted cultural assimilation attempts.


[30-Jul-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
people who actually have skin that yellow are jaundiced and will die of liver failure within 24h


[30-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically


[30-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
racism.


[30-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't dress it up as reality.


[30-Jul-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's reality if you mimic someone's eyelid state. It's racism when you deliberately use a color to try to not make them look like your race.


[30-Jul-20 02:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Obviously nobody IRL is as yellow as Fluttershy or something :scared:


[30-Jul-20 02:23 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Depicting an Asian person as yellow as her is obviously racist and would fall under all those other things that exaggerate the visuals of other races of people. All the bad depictions of black people for example.

But even makeup companies provide skin tone shades of yellow to match peoples skin tones.
Not trying to ok it.


[30-Jul-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah you can only become Prime Minister of Canada or governor of Virginia if you do racist shit like that

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[30-Jul-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/portland-protests-federal-officers-governor-kate-brown-trump-pence-a9644431.html

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Trump orders federal officers to leave Portland after weeks of outrage
Oregon State Police to step in as DHS announces gradual withdrawal following lawsuits and protests
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[30-Jul-20 02:47 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/CelticAnarchy/status/1287156567633166337

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Jewish Girl Himbo 🏴✡️ (@CelticAnarchy)
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on second thought maybe encouraging liberals to get into guns isn't the best of ideas
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[30-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Honahue#0656

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[30-Jul-20 02:53 AM] Synfag#9241
Dirty Harry Potter and the Loaded Chamber of Smith & Wesson Model 29


[30-Jul-20 02:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Harry Potter and the Hogwarts Shooter.
Harry Potter has had enough of Malfoys and his friends shit.


[30-Jul-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"He's not gonna tell his father about _this_ one."


[30-Jul-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
well, it's set in UK.


[30-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
millions may die but if it makes THE GUN go away, it's worth it.


[30-Jul-20 03:05 AM] PwnyPony#6185
UK can have guns. They are just very heavily regulated.


[30-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
so can Japan :wheeze:


[30-Jul-20 03:05 AM] Opponent#3498
but we're talking practical reality instead of theoretical law.


[30-Jul-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
and in practical reality they chopped and melted down historical collections, for display purposes only.


[30-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rowling is so uneducated at the world when she wrote the American lore she never considered Nomaj-born (US version of Muggle-born) kids that struggle not being able to have their gun at the US version of Hogwarts as part of the story


[30-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Synfag#9241
Hagrid: *"You have a gun, Harry."*


[30-Jul-20 03:08 AM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm unfamiliar with that, only with main series. But yes, no suprise.


[30-Jul-20 03:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think there are any US equivalent of Muggle-born wizards/witches though


[30-Jul-20 03:10 AM] Synfag#9241
Dirty Harry Potter and the Goblet **on** Fire


[30-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US wizards and witches actively avoid Muggles


[30-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Salem was basically their Holocaust or something.


[30-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
US wizards and witches just summon guns to fight


[30-Jul-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rowling is really bad at lore.


[30-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"American wizards wouldn't play Quidditch, right, make up a bad American football expy"


[30-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And by summon I mean pull out of their robes


[30-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Synfag#9241
US wizards and witches are bad at technology in general
magic too convenient


[30-Jul-20 03:12 AM] Opponent#3498
is that a real thing or a meme?


[30-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
the 'US counterpart to Hogwarts'.


[30-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's real yes


[30-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. I learned something.


[30-Jul-20 03:13 AM] Synfag#9241
Ilvermorny


[30-Jul-20 03:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Horned Serpent, Wampus, Pukwudgie, and Thunderbird are the houses


[30-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Horned Serpent is Hufflepuff, Wampus is Slytherin, Pukwudgie is Ravenclaw, Thunderbird is Gryffindor


[30-Jul-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“Others say that Horned Serpent favours scholars, Wampus, warriors, Pukwudgie, healers and Thunderbird, adventurers.”


[30-Jul-20 03:16 AM] Synfag#9241
story of the founding of Ilvermorny would make a great movie


[30-Jul-20 03:24 AM] Synfag#9241
In the past, the acceptance letters were delivered by carrier pigeon
because they were plentiful and liked carrying things
but when the carrier pigeons were hunted out of existence

Ilvermorny went with UPS


[30-Jul-20 03:25 AM] Synfag#9241
letter comes with a T-shirt


[30-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Synfag#9241
https://campusreform.org/?id=15338

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Universities across the country create George Floyd memorial schola...
Universities across the country create George Floyd memorial scholarships
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[30-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
you know, when I read somewhere this random guy was buried with more fanfare than almost literally any person before him ever, I thought they were exsaggerating.


[30-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
then I saw the photoset :wheeze:


[30-Jul-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/photography/2020/06/09/photos-george-floyd-funeral/


[30-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[30-Jul-20 03:43 AM] byte[]#2610
instant loss 2koma

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[30-Jul-20 04:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/clinical-trials-of-equine-serum-for-covid-19-patients-begin.phtml

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Clinical trials of equine serum for Covid-19 patients begin
Argentina this week started clinical tests on patients using a hyperimmune solution based on equine serum, a potential medicament for treating people with Covid-19.
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[30-Jul-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
:gaysyringe:


[30-Jul-20 04:28 AM] Crow#5457
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[30-Jul-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cool


[30-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Honahue#0656
too bad these will cause super autism


[30-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
> Trump orders federal officers to leave Portland after weeks of outrage

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[30-Jul-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
:yay::yay::yay:


[30-Jul-20 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *knew* we should've voted for vermin supreme! Equine serum = free ponies for everyone! *He'd* have gotten us through this!


[30-Jul-20 04:31 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Equine furs are most likely to be into TF. I think I know what this serum does.
:furries: 🐎 :glowing_eyes:

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[30-Jul-20 04:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and I wouldn't cheer yet, the portland experiment appears to have had the desired effect and it's already being implemented in other cities


[30-Jul-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, sorry to bother you was right!


[30-Jul-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
||amazon wants to create a slave race of horse people for warehouse work||


[30-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[30-Jul-20 04:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How silly, it isn't like alcohol makes you lose your inhibitions and ability to social distance


[30-Jul-20 05:42 AM] Serenity#9645
i think its ment to mock the time, not the inebriation. people can work untill 10pm and then cant go and buy alcahol because of a blanket law that affects by time and not occupation


[30-Jul-20 05:46 AM] Serenity#9645
here we have a 1 750ml sale per day in local stores due to covid, you cant buy 1.5l bottles even if its on the shelf and a time limit to buy alcahol. no matter what hours you work. it really serves nothing to help covid spread and kinda makes you goto the store more because you can only buy 1 small bottle a day


[30-Jul-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
in reality i just goto the next town over that doesnt have that stupid rule to get bigger bottles so i dont goto stores as much.  but i still have to goto a different town that maybe more infected then stay in my local area.

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[30-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can't buy liquor at a gas station in the US, you are not truly free.


[30-Jul-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
welcome to covid america lol


[30-Jul-20 05:57 AM] Serenity#9645
but in reality way more gas stations sell alcahol at petrol stations in germany and your allowed to drink in the streets there so does that mean germany is way more free?


[30-Jul-20 06:05 AM] Serenity#9645
its in jest, but i do kinda miss living there and im not allowed to go back :c (because covid)


[30-Jul-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What part of the US?


[30-Jul-20 06:07 AM] Serenity#9645
kansas, worst place aircraft repair has sent me


[30-Jul-20 06:08 AM] Serenity#9645
next time i goto a gas station ill ask for a picture of the memo if you dont believe me


[30-Jul-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah restriction of a size of individual purchase is one of those wonderful ideas generated by people who didn't nor ever needed to do their own groceries for at least the past 30 years


[30-Jul-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
it just blows my mind i cant buy a 1.5l bottle! like i take it from shelf to the register and they take it and say get a 750ml bottle and only one and show me the memo! like they have it in stock why cant i buy it?


[30-Jul-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
because the full shelves is a sign of happy and properous nation :wheeze:


[30-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Serenity#9645
so i goto the next town and buy 3l and dont have to go back for a week lol XD its cheeper in the next town, but i still dont wanna drive there when a gas station is in-between me and work


[30-Jul-20 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
and what easier way to maintain the full shelves than preventing people from buying anything?


[30-Jul-20 06:25 AM] jlun2#8758
2 days to mass eviction


[30-Jul-20 06:30 AM] Serenity#9645
wasnt another coronavirus bill passed? does anyone have a link to the actual bill or a factual article and not a bias article (not left or right i dont care about that just want the facts)


[30-Jul-20 06:31 AM] Serenity#9645
im concerned about people being evicted, but i dont wanna buy into some craziness "this bill will save us all!" or "this bill will kill many americans!" bullshit


[30-Jul-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
it's probably both in equal measure :3


[30-Jul-20 06:46 AM] Serenity#9645
id reather read it and see what outcomes could be. though i dont doubt it, no bill can satisfy all.


[30-Jul-20 06:57 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
theres a temp check at alot of places, but other then that they ask have you traveled outside a 150mi radius? no. have you been in contact with a positive individual that you know of? no. do you experience any flu like symptons? no. ok free to go!


[30-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Phelan#7647
Meanwhile in Canada


[30-Jul-20 07:20 AM] Phelan#7647
https://torontosun.com/news/national/lilley-committee-learns-we-hired-investigators-to-spy-on-children-of-journalist

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LILLEY: Committee learns WE hired investigators to spy on children ...
https://postmediatorontosun.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/74802734-20191022-ik-055-w.jpg?quality=100&strip=all


[30-Jul-20 07:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wild Erics


[30-Jul-20 11:04 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/04/08/us-workers-are-highly-taxed-when-you-count-health-premiums/

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https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2019/04/08/us-workers-are-highly-taxed-when-you-count-health-premiums/
US Workers Are Highly Taxed If You Count Premiums
Only the Netherlands has a higher average compulsory payment wedge than the US.
https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/33502815650_7393421e4c_k-e1505847872759.jpg


[30-Jul-20 11:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Labor-Taxes-and-Compulsory-Payments-as-Percent-of-Average-Wage-2.png

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[30-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Crow#5457
> If you want to know what it is like to pay income taxes like they do in Europe, then looking closely at your paystub would be a good start. We don’t pay as many formal taxes as they do, but when you bring in payments we are compelled to pay and that are deducted straight out of our paychecks just like taxes are, it really does not look that much different, at least as far as labor taxes are concerned.
> 
> Ultimately, this is a long exercise in pointing out the obvious: American workers already pay more than enough money to provide good health care to everyone in the country. It’s just that they pay it into a private insurance system that wastes large portions of it on rents and administrative redundancy. As the Mercatus Center noted last year, by implementing a Medicare for All system, the US could insure 30 million more people, provide dental, vision, and hearing coverage to everyone, and virtually eliminate out-of-pocket expenses, all while saving $2 trillion over the first decade of implementation.


[30-Jul-20 11:06 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pedophiles-decapitated-corpse-found-on-judges-doorstep-after-bail-hearing/

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FACT CHECK: Was a Pedophile’s Decapitated Corpse Found on a Judge’s...
Some fake news sites just can't get over their obsessions with pederasty, likely because it makes for effective clickbait material.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2017/09/police_line_tape_crime_scene_fb.jpg


[30-Jul-20 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
basically, while US workers pay less payroll taxes on paper, when factoring in compulsory payroll deductions, in practice they pay more than most workers in european countries


[30-Jul-20 11:11 AM] Crow#5457
with over half of those payroll deductions going to company healthcare


[30-Jul-20 11:12 AM] Crow#5457
> The comprehensive measure shows that a married couple with two kids that makes the average wage pays over 43 percent of their income in compulsory payments of one sort or another. Health premiums are 26.4 of the 43.2 points.
> 
> Finally, we can go back to the OECD NTCP data and compare the US to other developed countries. When we do that, we find that only the Netherlands — with its compulsory private health insurance and compulsory private pension — has a higher labor tax burden by this measure.


[30-Jul-20 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
Netherlands better offer one hell of a service for this kind of deduction


[30-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681557009866162234/738205173553430620/video0-64.mp4

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[30-Jul-20 11:46 AM] Crow#5457
the funny thing about this meme is that the feds are (supposedly) being pulled out of portland


[30-Jul-20 12:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Feds are leaving, and the protests are as active as ever. I couldn't be prouder of Portland, banding together and standing up for change night after night despite the feds trying in vain to quash the movement.


[30-Jul-20 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
it's pretty well studied that not addressing the cause of a protest while attempting to quash it only makes it stronger


[30-Jul-20 01:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty sure the *real* goal was to make it stronger, anyhow. They want to incite a riot so they can justify all the punitive action they're taking


[30-Jul-20 01:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a war for footage that can be used in propaganda. It doesn't matter if there are images of protesters getting tear-gassed and kidnapped so long as you have footage of people who look like the protesters smashing windows and throwing things at the police (or at least off-camera)


[30-Jul-20 01:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think at this point, the only people who are going to fall for that are people who wouldn't have ever been convinced by this movement to begin with. Trump posted pictures of violence in *Ukraine* and tried to pass it off as BLM riots, and people who wanted to believe the narrative that BLM is just a bunch of violent thugs just ate that content up.

I think we just have to continue standing firm, and understand and expect that Trump and right-wing media are going to play very fast and loose with facts to discredit us *regardless* of what we do.

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[30-Jul-20 01:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
So much for facts and logic, reactionaries fight with feelings and we've always known this.


[30-Jul-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tpusa-deletes-tweet-mocking-masks-after-montgomery-coronavirus-death-2020-7

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Pro-Trump youth group TPUSA deleted a tweet mocking protective mask...
The tweet shared a meme mocking "leftists" for advocating protective masks, and was sent the same day Bill Montgomery's death was announced.
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[30-Jul-20 02:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Damn those elitist leftists and their... listening to science.


[30-Jul-20 02:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-hijack-antitrust-hearing-facebook-google-amazon-conservative-bias-2020-7

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Republican lawmakers hijacked a historic antitrust hearing to air c...
Republican lawmakers aired grievances and accused tech companies of plotting to censor right-wing views and undermine Trump's campaign.
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[30-Jul-20 02:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Big corporations should do whatever they want without government intervention *unless they're mean to us*


[30-Jul-20 02:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't know about this particular lawmaker, so I won't assume hypocrisy on his part. But the Republican *party* has fiercely opposed business regulation and in many cases, opposed anti-discrimination measures.

So seeing a party that's largely okay with businesses refusing to hire gay people (which is no longer legal, thankfully) suddenly crying foul when a company uses a TOS to "censor" certain viewpoints that it has no obligation to host is *hiiiilarious.*


[30-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Who needs science when you have GOD on your side.


[30-Jul-20 02:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:dab:


[30-Jul-20 02:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even in the Bible, Paul still recognized Luke's earthly medical expertise. 

When all the data and every respectable medical institution in the world is saying the same thing, it's not a conspiracy to take your freedom.


[30-Jul-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
But the Grand Old Daddy says it is, so it must be true!


[30-Jul-20 03:01 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
When your children are ill, just let priests lay their hands on them.🙏
And they will be blessed with healing ||(if they are not sinners)||.


[30-Jul-20 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/29/897000754/for-some-arrested-at-portland-protests-release-is-conditional-on-not-attending-m

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For Some Arrested At Portland Protests, Release Is Conditional On N...
Bailey Dreibelbis is among the protesters whose terms of release from jail include a ban on attending other demonstrations in the city. Some lawyers say such a limit violates First Amendment rights.
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[30-Jul-20 03:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975

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Trump calls for delay to 2020 US election
US President Trump calls for delaying 2020 election, citing possible mail-in voting fraud despite little evidence
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[30-Jul-20 03:12 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Just keep delaying. Never have an election. 
Blame Corona, Blame riots, blame hacking, blame it on the rain.


[30-Jul-20 03:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not shocked, i;m just disappointed that he's so fucking predictable


[30-Jul-20 03:19 PM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672441087394185247/738382143105007676/EeFpuWBXkAAVKC4.png

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[30-Jul-20 03:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hopefully they won't give in to his ridiculous request.


[30-Jul-20 03:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the senate might try, though the house will likely be a solid no


[30-Jul-20 03:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If Trump doesn't think schools need to be delayed, then election day shouldn't be either.


[30-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Opponent#3498
```i;m not shocked, i;m just disappointed that he's so fucking predictable```


[30-Jul-20 03:30 PM] Opponent#3498
I kind of called that in like January tbh


[30-Jul-20 03:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
everyone called it in like 2018


[30-Jul-20 03:31 PM] Opponent#3498
fair enough. Back then his position looked better to me.


[30-Jul-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the type of tweet he makes before he starts railing against the senate to *do something*


[30-Jul-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wouldnt be surprised if when the election doesn;t get delayed, he'll start tweeting threats of "civil war" should he lose


[30-Jul-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
he'll call it fradulent before it even begins, then tweets 'victory is assured, democrats can't stop democracy'(it has a ring to it, now that I think about it), then, assuming he loses, goes back to fradulent claims and demand a redo.


[30-Jul-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all the while building the wall in front of the white house ever higher


[30-Jul-20 03:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If he loses, he'll still be president for a couple more months too.

I feel like he wouldn't do the lame-duck route and would instead actively try to do as much crazy shit as possible before Biden takes his place.


[30-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Opponent#3498
btw what's the point in the wall before WH? I'm pretty sure basicly everyone is authorised to use lethal force if people actually breach the perimeter.


[30-Jul-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's to "look intimidating"


[30-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess the extremely unlikely possibility that an organized huge group of people could overpower secret service.


[30-Jul-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also probably makes him feel safer as a placebo


[30-Jul-20 03:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Someone did (rather incompetently) try to kill him at a 2016 rally.


[30-Jul-20 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
before or after he won?


[30-Jul-20 03:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Before.


[30-Jul-20 03:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disorderly_conduct_at_Donald_Trump_rally This incident.

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Disorderly conduct at Donald Trump rally
At a June 18, 2016 rally for presumptive-nominee Donald Trump's presidential campaign  in Las Vegas, Nevada, Michael Steven Sandford attempted to grab the pistol of a Las Vegas Metropolitan Police officer providing security for the event. Upon arrest and after waiving his Mira...
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[30-Jul-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish he had succeeded, he really should have planned that out better


[30-Jul-20 03:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't advocate murder of course

But I will say I wouldn't lose much sleep if Donald's Big Mac-clogged heart gave out on him.


[30-Jul-20 03:45 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/AwSHy0Y0IQQC5NOBYffti8A

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Cramer: Trump's tweet 'sows chaos and chaos is bad for the stock ma...
"It sows chaos, and chaos is bad for the stock market," Jim Cramer said on "Squawk on the Street."
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQTdXSXY1c3NEUWNPZ1djdV96SHgzencAMA


[30-Jul-20 03:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, *yeah.* Nothing about this is a good idea. I just hope Mitch isn't *so* much of a Trump lapdog that he supports it.


[30-Jul-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wonder what a ben carson presidency would have been like


[30-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nowhere near this stupid, I'm sure.

though still pretty dumb


[30-Jul-20 03:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The 2016 primaries were a mess


[30-Jul-20 03:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they really were


[30-Jul-20 03:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Basically all the moderate Republicans split the regular traditional GOP voters, and *all* the extreme cranks rallied behind Trump.

Not that I have any love for "moderate" Republicans; they're still pretty far-right to me, just less so than Trump is.


[30-Jul-20 03:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hilarious thing is that the RNC actively trried to keep trump from progressing and he foiled them at every turn


[30-Jul-20 03:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He didn't foil anything. If he'd been against *one* normal Republican instead of a half-dozen of them, I think he'd have lost.


[30-Jul-20 03:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump's victory was largely owed to what a shitshow the primaries were.


[30-Jul-20 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to be honest if anything i say we move the election date up half a year and nix the primaries entirely


[30-Jul-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
current election system is an overcomplicated mess yeah


[30-Jul-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we should also reverse citizens united


[30-Jul-20 03:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

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Citizens United v. FEC
Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310 (2010), was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States concerning campaign finance. The Court held that the free speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting indep...


[30-Jul-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/federal-judge-demands-homeland-security-document-all-the-false-information-it-told-the-court/

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Federal judge demands Homeland Security document all the false info...
On Wednesday, CNN reported that a federal judge is ordering the Department of Homeland Security to document all of the times it gave “inaccurate” or “misleading” information about the reason it was excluding residents of New York State from the Global Entry system. “District J...
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Travelers-are-screened-by-Transportation-Security-Administration-TSA-workers-at-a-security-check-point-at-OHare-Airport-AFP.jpg


[30-Jul-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/donie/status/1288559648702963744?s=20

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https://twitter.com/donie/status/1288559648702963744?s=20
NEW from Congressional hearing: 

In internal email in 2012, Zuckerberg wrote, “[W]e can likely always just buy any competitive startups, but it’ll be a while before we can buy Google.
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[30-Jul-20 05:15 PM] wren#0114
>facebook buys google
>disney buys facebook
>???
>profits


[30-Jul-20 05:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/herman-cain-dies-after-being-hospitalized-for-covid-19-2020-7

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Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has died after...
Cain tested positive for the novel coronavirus 11 days after attending President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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[30-Jul-20 05:33 PM] byte[]#2610
F


[30-Jul-20 05:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not happy about this at all, but this was easily preventable.

I seriously wish these people would stop needlessly endangering themselves.


[30-Jul-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/library-s-proposal-black-lives-matter-prompts-sheriff-say-won-n1235166

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Library's proposal on Black Lives Matter prompts sheriff to say won...
The sheriff said, "please do not feel the need to call 911 for help," but, in a later joint statement with the library head, he said he supported open discussion "that values diversity and law enforcement."
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[30-Jul-20 05:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1288854840857317377?s=19

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The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ)
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1288854840857317377?s=19
Breaking: Herman Cain, a former Godfather’s Pizza CEO who ran for president as a Republican in 2012, has died after being hospitalized for coronavirus https://t.co/8Odg1KDNd1
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[30-Jul-20 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/megsyhoops/status/1288360748104597505

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meg (@megsyhoops)
https://twitter.com/megsyhoops/status/1288360748104597505
My daughter just shared this TikTok 😂😂😂 https://t.co/CzuzDSjENP
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[30-Jul-20 06:03 PM] wren#0114
chinese propaganda


[30-Jul-20 06:06 PM] illumnious#7938
^


[30-Jul-20 06:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://apnews.com/d203eaa406dc5e7362dfa9e33522195e

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Trump floats November election delay, but it won't happen
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is for the first time publicly floating a “delay” to the Nov. 3 presidential election, as he makes unsubstantiated allegations that increased mail-in...
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[30-Jul-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/c1878e580f5acd2c0305e5236c4e3197

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Record economic plunge, bleak jobs numbers reveal virus toll
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy plunged by a record-shattering 32.9% annual rate last quarter, and the coronavirus pandemic is still cutting a path of destruction, forcing millions out of work...
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[30-Jul-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hmmmm, I wonder why he started floating this today of all days.:ponkthonk:


[30-Jul-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Nah


[30-Jul-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
He's just dumb lmao, don't overthink it


[30-Jul-20 06:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah probably


[30-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rogers-telus-bell-cellphone-wireless-bain-1.5667824


[30-Jul-20 06:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'll be honest im kinda pissed at the big three tech corps not lowering prices in all these years


[30-Jul-20 06:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They have monopolized the com industry up here


[30-Jul-20 06:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had chances to force them to lower prices, but noooo we need a *free market*


[30-Jul-20 06:49 PM] [Actual Horse] Dsiak#7423
As long as people keep buying, prices will stay up.


[30-Jul-20 06:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"People are not buying! Increase prices to recoup losses!"

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[30-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats how fuel prices works in russia


[30-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
while gasoline prices went down worldwide it stayed the same in russia


[30-Jul-20 06:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
This is exactly what I am referring to.


[30-Jul-20 06:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how do u know so much about russia if u live in south africa :squintyjack:


[30-Jul-20 07:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Reading news, talking to people and being happy not living there.


[30-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Is it that different?


[30-Jul-20 07:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I mean Africa is the same shithole with corruption,crimes,poverty,etc


[30-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
healthcare isn't exactly something you can afford to not buy


[30-Jul-20 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
if you want to keep living, anyway


[30-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://tenor.com/view/wrong-donald-trump-gif-8471142

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[30-Jul-20 07:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u just ignore first symptoms until you die


[30-Jul-20 07:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie not much difference,  except for low tech isolated island of civilization.


[30-Jul-20 07:31 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-Jul-20 07:31 PM] byte[]#2610
photos taken moments before disaster


[30-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Honahue#0656
death cult


[30-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/herman-cain-hospitalized-covid-19-001059330.html

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Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain announced Thursday that he has been hospitalized due to symptoms of COVID-19. But in an unusually on-the-nose development, the announcement came only hours after he denounced measures to stem the spread of the illness on Twi...
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[30-Jul-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[30-Jul-20 07:33 PM] [Actual Horse] Dsiak#7423
Talking about international news, Brazil is going to postpone elections too, but not the presidential one, the mayors one. one month later.


[30-Jul-20 09:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1288835328854437888

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These aged well
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[30-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-07-29/covid-employer-liability

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[30-Jul-20 10:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> In GOP plan, you can’t sue your employers for giving you COVID — but they can sue you


[30-Jul-20 10:02 PM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/LiamODellUK/status/1288869766980042752?s=19

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NEW: @YouTube confirms it is discontinuing its community captions feature, which allowed viewers to contribute subtitles to other channels to make videos accessible to #deaf and hard of hearing people.

The tool will be retired on 28 September 2020.
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[30-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


[30-Jul-20 10:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/emoticomix/status/1288885807336624128

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[30-Jul-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf why are they removing community captions


[30-Jul-20 10:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
My bet is copyright, somehow


[30-Jul-20 10:07 PM] illumnious#7938
I’m gay


[30-Jul-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/61967856?hl=en>
> Both creators and viewers have reported problems with the community contributions feature, including spam, abuse, and low quality submissions. As a result, the feature is rarely used with less than 0.001% of channels having published community captions (showing on less than 0.2% of watch time) in the last month. Instead, creators are using YouTube’s alternative captioning tools.


[30-Jul-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/LiamODellUK/status/1288897833622556678

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It’s also worth mentioning this announcement from YouTube earlier on in the week. It may well be that while community captions are gone, the ability for others to contribute subtitles through permissions may be the alternative going forward.
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[30-Jul-20 10:08 PM] byte[]#2610
that might be okay


[30-Jul-20 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
so most ppl dont use it & the ones that do complain of spam
i personally never knew it existed


[30-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is not used because I never seen option to do  so


[30-Jul-20 10:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
very few videos or creator have to post the link to it


[30-Jul-20 10:14 PM] Phelan#7647
I use it a bit cause I'm a weeb and having the option is good.


[30-Jul-20 10:15 PM] Phelan#7647
Like, I bet it's not a feature that costs Google too much. They're not paying people for the community captions


[30-Jul-20 10:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I think it is to do with authors not enabling it.


[30-Jul-20 10:16 PM] byte[]#2610
>costs


[30-Jul-20 10:17 PM] byte[]#2610
what does it cost, exactly? more than the marginal amount of extra text stored in the database, which is ~free


[30-Jul-20 10:18 PM] Phelan#7647
Exactly, it's effectively free to Google. I bet it costs them less than the napkins on their campus.


[30-Jul-20 10:36 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288933202812456968?s=21

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We are going to WIN the 2020 Election, BIG! #MAGA
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[30-Jul-20 10:37 PM] illumnious#7938
He’s on crack guys


[30-Jul-20 10:37 PM] byte[]#2610
it's really telling when you even manage to piss off almost your entire base by threatening to move the election date


[30-Jul-20 10:39 PM] illumnious#7938
Is that so


[30-Jul-20 10:39 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Those not pissed off are playing defense.


[30-Jul-20 10:39 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Saying he’s just kidding.


[30-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He's just kicking off a debate"


[30-Jul-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He's doing a sarcasm


[30-Jul-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Jul-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bye-boomer-the-coming-cull-of-workers-over-50-2020-07-29

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Bye, boomer: the coming cull of workers over 50
Employers seize on slumps to purge more expensive, more experienced workers, study warns
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[30-Jul-20 11:04 PM] jlun2#8758
> and replace them with cheap, desperate kids who will put up with anything.
my sister wasnt able to get a summer job washing dishes last year because bad fit & im like "how the hell does that job need a good fit wtf"


[30-Jul-20 11:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Boomer


[30-Jul-20 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
> New research from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that, yes, age discrimination rises hand in hand with the unemployment rate. Older workers tend to be the last hired back and the first fired. And while the unemployment rate has been dropping back down for the last two months, after the initial COVID shock, you’re a fool if you think it’s over. (OK, that was the ’70s.)
> 
> Economists Gordon Dalh of the University of California, San Diego, and Matthew Knepper of the University of Georgia ran the numbers on age-discrimination complaints filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and compared them with the unemployment rates in the relevant industry and U.S. state at the time.
> 
> “For each 1 percentage point increase in a state-industry’s monthly unemployment rate, the volume of age discrimination firing and hiring charges increases by 4.8% and 3.4%, respectively,” they found.


[30-Jul-20 11:12 PM] jlun2#8758
their rich with homes they bought for 30k they're fine


[30-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Except it starts kicking in when you're 40


[30-Jul-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And gen Y has suffered most of the same BS with getting priced out of living as gen X


[30-Jul-20 11:18 PM] illumnious#7938

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[30-Jul-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
no more tasty demon semen i see


[30-Jul-20 11:20 PM] illumnious#7938
Have sex with fucking demons


[30-Jul-20 11:23 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-30/in-break-with-trump-desantis-says-florida-ready-for-election

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In Break With Trump, DeSantis Says Florida Ready for Election
Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis said there’s no need to delay November elections in his state after President Donald Trump raised the possibility of doing so nationally.
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[30-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1288939208669671424/

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Steven Calabresi. 
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[30-Jul-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
(Founder of the Federalist Society)


[30-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't see how this is at all a high crime or misdemeanor, "the president said something crazy" isn't grounds for impeachment, much less removal from office.


[30-Jul-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Depending on crazy it would be grounds for invoking the 25th Amendment but that isn't the case either.


[30-Jul-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm guessing it's more "wait, maybe those pinko commies were right before"


[31-Jul-20 12:08 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/07/30/europe-travel-ban-americans-covid-19-rise-eu-to-us/5546206002/

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EU extends ban on American travelers — again — with US COVID-19 cas...
For the second time this month, the European Union extended its travel ban on Americans on Thursday, as U.S. COVID-19 infections continued to rise.
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[31-Jul-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53596229

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In pictures: Iraqis try to stay cool in heatwave
Iraqis struggle in the sweltering heat with temperatures soaring above 50C this week.
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[31-Jul-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some places really aren't meant to be lived in...


[31-Jul-20 12:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html

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Opinion | Trump Might Try to Postpone the Election. That’s Unconsti...
He should be removed unless he relents.
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[31-Jul-20 12:16 AM] Crow#5457
> Election Day was fixed by a federal law passed in 1845, and the Constitution itself in the 20th Amendment specifies that the newly elected Congress meet at noon on Jan. 3, 2021, and that the terms of the president and vice president end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021. If no newly elected president is available, the speaker of the House of Representatives becomes acting president.


[31-Jul-20 12:34 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm not a believer in 4d chess, but Trump sometimes knows what he's doing regarding manipulating the media—he's said as much. This _might_ be one such example, since postponing the election was an idea many liberals were floating about.


[31-Jul-20 12:35 AM] Pontology#1010
Best way to get liberals to oppose postponing the election is for him to tweet in favor of it.


[31-Jul-20 12:36 AM] Honahue#0656
most liberals were saying vote by mail not postponing but Trump fears it because voter suppresion is and gerrymandering  is whats keeping a good number of repubs in office


[31-Jul-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
there was a strong argument to be made in favor of postponing the election in the first few months of lockdowns because we didn't know if we had the available infrastructure for everyone to be able to vote safely, whether in person or through mailed ballots


[31-Jul-20 12:38 AM] byte[]#2610
now we know that we do, so there is no reason to postpone elections


[31-Jul-20 12:53 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I mean, Trump starving the USPS is gonna mess up Mail In voting


[31-Jul-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
it might be an ironic twist of fate if Amazon saves them


[31-Jul-20 01:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-dr-stella-immanuel-covid19-cure-demon-sperm-20200728-juzu6mbyvjf7diofyiyro6vewy-story.html

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Viral sensation Dr. Stella Immanuel says Jesus will destroy Faceboo...
The licensed Houston-based pediatrician refers to herself as “God’s battle axe and weapon of war” and claims that medical issues like endometriosis, cysts, infertility, and impotence are caused by sex with “spirit husbands” and “spirit wives,” a phenomenon described essentiall...
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[31-Jul-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Jul-20 01:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
face space book


[31-Jul-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Immanuel#COVID-19_misinformation i'm reading her wikipedia page now and everything is hilarious

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Stella Gwandiku-Ambe Immanuel (born 1965) is a Cameroonian-American physician, author, and pastor. She emigrated to the United States after completing her medical education in Nigeria, and currently practices at a private clinic in Texas.
In 2020, she received international at...


[31-Jul-20 01:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This timeline sucks so bad


[31-Jul-20 01:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
we slipped into the onion universe somehow


[31-Jul-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Her wikipedia article reads like encyclopedia dramatica but it;s real and well sourced

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[31-Jul-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/509902-trump-says-he-cant-assure-school-safety-amid-pandemic-can-you-assure

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Trump says he can't assure school safety amid pandemic: 'Can you as...
President Trump, who has pressed for schools to open this fall despite the coronavirus pandemic, said Thursday that he couldn't offer assurances that holding in-person classes would be safe.
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[31-Jul-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/509901-trump-tests-gop-loyalty-with-election-tweet-and-stimulus-strategy

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Trump tests GOP loyalty with election tweet and stimulus strategy
President Trump is testing the loyalty of his Republican allies on Capitol Hill at a time when his weak job approval numbers have GOP lawmakers increasingly concerned that he may lose re-election and drag down their Senate majority with him.
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[31-Jul-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Jul-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And now the industry is dead.


[31-Jul-20 01:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The future isn't in getting restaurants back, it's in running commissaries and kitchens that delivery directly


[31-Jul-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Started playing Vampyr


[31-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty amusing how it takes place during the 1919 pandemic


[31-Jul-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And is full of "STAY HOME", "WEAR A MASK", "BE SAFE, DON'T WORK" posters everywhere


[31-Jul-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus one of the main locations is a hospital that's run out of supplies and has too many patients

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[31-Jul-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
how do you become a doctor yet believe that demons cause diseases ?

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[31-Jul-20 02:00 AM] byte[]#2610
🇺🇸


[31-Jul-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/i/events/1288872662052339714

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After cracking down on Hong Kong, China sets its sights on Taiwan
“China’s ambition is not only Taiwan. It’s all of Asia—and the whole world.” Xi wants to continue on the path of Mao and Deng by bringing more territory under Beijing’s control.
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[31-Jul-20 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/30/896714437/3-months-of-hell-u-s-economys-worst-quarter-ever

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3 Months Of Hell: U.S. Economy Drops 32.9% In Worst GDP Report Ever
The coronavirus triggered the sharpest economic contraction in modern history in the second quarter as the pandemic hammered the economy, the Commerce Department said Thursday.
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[31-Jul-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/articles/928123/conservative-propaganda-crippled-coronavirus-response

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Conservative propaganda has crippled the U.S. coronavirus response
Right-wing media has rendered millions of Americans incapable of facing the reality of the pandemic
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[31-Jul-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/509907-experts-dismiss-trump-claim-that-it-could-take-years-to-declare

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Experts dismiss Trump claim that it could take 'years' to declare e...
President Trump on Thursday suggested it could take “years” to determine the winner of the upcoming presidential race, marking the latest in a series of election-related statements that experts dismissed as a legal o
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[31-Jul-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean, we could always just have SCOTUS pick the winner in a partisan decision again.


[31-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That decision was incredibly embarrassing.


[31-Jul-20 02:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And unnecessary. What's the worst that could happen, it stretches into January 2001 and we have to have an acting president?


[31-Jul-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't see why trump has a problem with that, he's got a cabinet full of unconfirmed acting directors


[31-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
so you know those tweets herman cain's account was tweeting? turns out it was most likely his campaign staff doing it


[31-Jul-20 02:59 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
How the fuck did Stella immanuel last this long?


[31-Jul-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
those anti mask tweets


[31-Jul-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
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[31-Jul-20 03:26 AM] Synfag#9241
https://nationalfile.com/patreon-loses-lawsuit-with-owen-benjamin-fans-likely-to-pay-millions-in-arbitration-and-legal-fees/

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Jack Hadfield
https://nationalfile.com/patreon-loses-lawsuit-with-owen-benjamin-fans-likely-to-pay-millions-in-arbitration-and-legal-fees/
Patreon Loses Lawsuit With Owen Benjamin Fans, Likely To Pay Millio...
Patreon has lost a lawsuit they filed against fans of Owen Benjamin, a comedian kicked off the platform due to
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[31-Jul-20 03:27 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1288874180197224449

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This article aged poorly. Patreon is now on the hook to pay each of those individuals’ legal fees in their lawsuits against it. 

Yes, Patreon has to pay people who are suing Patreon.
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[31-Jul-20 03:30 AM] Synfag#9241
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[31-Jul-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is/Kg5bs


[31-Jul-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
( https://newrepublic.com/article/158684/white-house-staffers-coronavirus , but shit tons of tracking scripts)

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[31-Jul-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
holy shit that website https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-file/

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[31-Jul-20 03:35 AM] jlun2#8758
> If you have a baby, oh no, why did you do that? And if you make the stupid mistake of growing old, you might end up giving away your savings just to get into a Medicaid-funded nursing home.


[31-Jul-20 03:35 AM] Synfag#9241
> holy shit that website <https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-file/>
@Crow 

either way it still happened
Patreon lost


[31-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
is there any other source? every single site I've looked up reporting it is questionable at best


[31-Jul-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
this seems to be the primary source https://s9503.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/29.07.2020-Denial-of-Preliminary-Injunction.pdf


[31-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Synfag#9241
> every single site I've looked up reporting it is questionable at best

nobody else wants to report it
in fear of Patreon


[31-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
which is just a denial of preliminary injunction, which means they can't force the people they're suing into arbitration


[31-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
patreon didn't lose anything yet


[31-Jul-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
it just means they have to pay the court fees and whatnot if they do actually lose


[31-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Synfag#9241
I'm certain any other source you will discard
just by the author

https://www.cernovich.com/patreon-mandatory-arbitration/

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Patreon Faces New Legal Peril Under California Law
Patreon has lost several high profile creators including Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, and Jordan Peterson due to Patreon’s decision to begin censoring creators for ideological reasons. The belief is that Patreon can ban anyone they want to. Is this true under California law? “Priva...
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[31-Jul-20 03:39 AM] Crow#5457
basically, the claim that patreon lost a lawsuit is bogus


[31-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
May I remind you this is the darkest timeline.


[31-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Synfag#9241
since feb it's already happening


[31-Jul-20 03:40 AM] Synfag#9241
the recent is just the latest


[31-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
oh oops, I got it sorta backwards, patreon wanted to AVOID arbitration, but because of a california law, they can't do that


[31-Jul-20 03:42 AM] Crow#5457
they still didn't lose a lawsuit though


[31-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1288868346859905024

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Update: Patreon lost.

The judge applied well-established law and denied Patreon's motion / sided against them in their lawsuit against Owen Benjamin fans.

Patreon will now be forced to arbitrate 100+ claims, and pay up front fees of up to $10,000 per arbitration. https://t....
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[31-Jul-20 03:43 AM] Synfag#9241
we all know it will only be be a blip


[31-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Synfag#9241
since it's cernovich saying it


[31-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They didn't lose, they just have to go through a whole bunch of cases one by one and pay full expenses for each


[31-Jul-20 03:44 AM] Synfag#9241
repeat it not happening
then it never happened.


[31-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which for each plaintiff is a heavy price, but for patreon combined may be a shitload, especially as winning gets them nothing and losing gets them fucked


[31-Jul-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Regardless of recent shenanigans, fuck them and every company that plays those games


[31-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Crow#5457
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cerno-cernovich-com/

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[31-Jul-20 03:47 AM] Synfag#9241
of course.


[31-Jul-20 03:48 AM] byte[]#2610
if you don't like people posting bias reports about your shitty conspiratorial sources, you should link more reputable sources


[31-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Synfag#9241
even if you stepped on poo
if cernovich walks towards you and says you just stepped on poo
you will lean to it being probably questionable
and continue on your merry way


[31-Jul-20 03:48 AM] Crow#5457
it's a loss, but they didn't lose the entire lawsuit


[31-Jul-20 03:49 AM] Crow#5457
the problem is that there's only questionable secondary sources at best reporting on this, so I just linked the primary source


[31-Jul-20 04:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If cerno says you stepped in poo, you don't ask for a second opinion from a more trustworthy source, you *check your foot*


[31-Jul-20 04:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is the reason why Tim Pool and the like aren't allowed as sources in this channel, because Tim wouldn't report on the condition of the sidewalk or your foot, he would tell you how outrageous it is that people step in poo and then go on to read the cerno article like he's a react channel.


[31-Jul-20 04:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Göring. You can call me Meyer.”- Hermann Meyer

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[31-Jul-20 06:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Siegmeyer


[31-Jul-20 06:23 AM] JC Denton#7076
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1289009776433782786?s=19

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The Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein) documents have been unsealed.

Will be posting excerpts here -  

Starting with allegations of minor being trafficked to Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz (as prev. alleged).

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[31-Jul-20 06:23 AM] JC Denton#7076
ruh roh


[31-Jul-20 06:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the dershowitz angle is gonna be the most lawyered bit of this, Prince Andrew's basically still untouchable for now and none of the other high-profile names are likely to come back to bite the current president, which is all that matters now. Dershowitz has the skill to take what is clear evidence of him aiding and abetting crimes and orchestrating a miscarriage of justice...and turn it into a three-ring circus that not only overshadows his own alleged involvement in the sex ring but also seem like a reasonable and justifiable application of law


[31-Jul-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It is also unclear now how valuable maxwell is alive, given these documents being unsealed


[31-Jul-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
do you think maxwell might die of suicide in the next few months?


[31-Jul-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
rapid onset covid


[31-Jul-20 07:00 AM] byte[]#2610
shame


[31-Jul-20 08:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Literally just had someone tell me that eventually everything will go back to normal and that the GDP cratered "because of the reaction to the virus, not the virus itself"


[31-Jul-20 08:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sorta starting to believe that maybe economists don't have a firm grasp on how the economy works


[31-Jul-20 08:17 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats exaclty why we live like that


[31-Jul-20 08:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They decided to change the topic after I suggested that the virus in the US changed as a result of the reaction to the virus


[31-Jul-20 08:25 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, 150 grand sure is a lot of dead people


[31-Jul-20 08:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's democide


[31-Jul-20 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
It's really idiotic democide too


[31-Jul-20 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine killing your own geriatric voter base to own the libs


[31-Jul-20 08:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and giving the rest of the population lifelong organ damage too


[31-Jul-20 08:28 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/hiKuxfcSrEU?t=21

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[31-Jul-20 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
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[31-Jul-20 08:39 AM] Synfag#9241

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[31-Jul-20 08:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mcconnell-top-republicans-rebuke-trump-call-to-delay-election-2020-7

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Top Republicans including Mitch McConnell forcefully rebuke Trump's...
Only Congress can change the date of the presidential election, which is set in federal law as the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.
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[31-Jul-20 08:53 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] if you're interested  https://www.google.com/amp/s/mashable.com/article/twitter-bitcoin-hack-spear-phishing-attack.amp

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Twitter reveals exactly how bitcoin scammers hacked Elon Musk's, Ki...
Response to support requests will be slower while Twitter investigates the breach.
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[31-Jul-20 10:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

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Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet rig...
Counter-terrorism expert Seth Jones, who helped create the dataset, told The Guardian: "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism threat."
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[31-Jul-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
All we need is facts while everyone screams about evil antifa it turns out, the danger of Antifa is their feelings.


[31-Jul-20 10:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am a little surprised that even the GOP in the senate isnt willing to touch election delay with a 10ft pole


[31-Jul-20 10:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/738649956889526286


[31-Jul-20 10:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/freecialis2/status/1288853373777776641?s=20

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Learning, deeply sorry (@freecialis2)
https://twitter.com/freecialis2/status/1288853373777776641?s=20
delaying paying rent for 3 months but then paying 4x this month worked perfectly for me, since I was I was out of work for a bit but immediately got a job that pays quadruple right after
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[31-Jul-20 10:27 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is that sarcasm?


[31-Jul-20 10:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hahahhahaha https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/business/dominos-new-zealand-karen-offer-scli-intl/index.html

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Domino's in New Zealand has pulled a promotion offering free pizzas for "great" people named Karen following a backlash.
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[31-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>Country colonized to shit but that has a decent native population still and an actual environment


[31-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>HMM INTERNET BEAT UP ON WHITE BOOMER WOMEN


[31-Jul-20 10:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
>FREE PIZZAS FOR THEM! WHAT CAN GO WRONG?


[31-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So as far as YouTube captions, the thing is the auto-generated captions are good enuff with like a minute per 10 minutes of video of work to use.


[31-Jul-20 10:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas stuff from the community? Your fans just want to sneak shit in.


[31-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
And about the Patreon thing, the issue is this https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/business/arbitration-overload.html

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Lawyers and a Silicon Valley start-up have found ways to flood the system with claims, so companies are looking to thwart a process they created.
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[31-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, a bunch of companies hav in their ToS that you can't sue them, only use arbitration.


[31-Jul-20 10:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
To make it remotely legal, they say they'll pay all costs to get the process started.


[31-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
The cumbersome nature dissuades almost all claims, doing what the companies want, making customers unable to fight their practices.


[31-Jul-20 10:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
...however, companies sprang up that operate on a "pay us some of what you win" system, much like law firms, to file arbitration claims *en masse* in place of class-action lawsuits.


[31-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
And now suddenly a lot of companies are being forced to pay millions upfront for arbitration, with judges basically telling them THIS IS YOUR BED YOU MADE NOW LIE IN IT.


[31-Jul-20 10:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
The standard legal system is looking pretty sweet right about now if you're a big company.


[31-Jul-20 10:35 AM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[31-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, $10,000 a person sounds managible.


[31-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Until there's 1,000 such persons.


[31-Jul-20 10:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that's not a hard number to come by when there's 100,000 customers... surely 1% hav some issue with how they were billed etc.


[31-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't matter if the issue is minor and not actionable


[31-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
the money is paid **upfront**


[31-Jul-20 10:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, literally any random bullshit could blow these companies up.


[31-Jul-20 10:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
10/10.


[31-Jul-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, in relation to Iraq's heat wave


[31-Jul-20 10:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
it WAS livable until recently.


[31-Jul-20 10:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Global Warming is rendering certain areas too hot in the summer for outdoor human survival.


[31-Jul-20 10:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Legacy of the Middle East may end up being that the oil under it was used to warm the planet to where you need AC to survive it.


[31-Jul-20 10:52 AM] jlun2#8758
time to terraform Earth


[31-Jul-20 11:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/dhs-intelligence-reports-on-journalists-covering-protests-report-2020-7

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[31-Jul-20 11:50 AM] wren#0114
it looks like the intelligence reports mentioned, were concerning the internal leaks


[31-Jul-20 11:50 AM] wren#0114
based on that article


[31-Jul-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7

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Kushner's axed coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy...
Parts of Kushner's COVID-19 team thought it was better to leave Democratic-voting areas to their fate, a source told Vanity Fair.
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[31-Jul-20 03:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Incredible.


[31-Jul-20 03:39 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, voting against Trump is also voting against this guy. Heh, he did good to stay out of spotlight lately.


[31-Jul-20 03:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course, by *politicizing masks*, Trump is now killing off a sizable chunk of his most reliable voting demographic - old people.


[31-Jul-20 03:50 PM] wren#0114
I don't trust kushner

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[31-Jul-20 03:55 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1288827076854738945?s=21

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President Trump suggests delay to November election, though experts say he lacks the authority to do so
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[31-Jul-20 04:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He absolutely lacks the authority, and even if the election were delayed, the window wouldn't be that long.

Trump was elected to a single four-year term. If that term expires without a president being elected to the next one, it wouldn't go to Trump. It'd go to Pelosi or someone else, it's unclear, but Trump wouldn't get to just extend his presidential term past January.


[31-Jul-20 04:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1289027836418895877
https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1289036202067337216
https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1289035696775352321

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intelwave 🌺🌸 (@inteldotwav)
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So, the courts badly censored the PDFs and you can just copy-paste the text under the black bars lmao
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EPSTEIN CONSPIRED WITH GOVERNMENT TO AVOID CHARGES ORIGINALLY

US GOVERNMENT COMPLICIT IN PEDOPHILIA COVERUP
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[31-Jul-20 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
could still be fake, unless those are the original PDFs


[31-Jul-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/hong-kong-china-threatens-to-stop-recognizing-uk-issued-passports-2020-7

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China threatens to trap up to 3 million people in Hong Kong by no l...
China's ambassador to the UK on Thursday warned that Beijing would stop recognising British national (overseas) passports.
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[31-Jul-20 04:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
Mega of the torrent
https://mega.nz/folder/OShkGSyB#vGpiKe3NxUVCIFxrRXfULg

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389.4 MB folder on MEGA
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[31-Jul-20 05:00 PM] >That Guy#3386
Imagine being such an incompetent boomer that you leak classified info because you don't know how to make a PDF.


[31-Jul-20 05:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't believe all this time we've been going after artists when the government is the problem :twismug:


[31-Jul-20 05:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently that's a boogaloo account so i'll take it with a grain of salt


[31-Jul-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i'll consider all about politicians in this, any of them


[31-Jul-20 05:16 PM] Marukomuru#8409
As long as I can get a good shitpost out of it :smugcaddy:


[31-Jul-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
> Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says


[31-Jul-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
nice


[31-Jul-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-fauci-idUSKCN24W1GS

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Partisan clash at start of U.S. House coronavirus hearing with Fauci
Congressional Republicans and Democrats clashed about whether the Trump administration had a national strategy to respond to the coronavirus pandemic at the start of a hearing featuring Dr. Anthony Fauci, the United States' top infectious disease expert.
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200731&t=2&i=1527881851&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG6U1FA


[31-Jul-20 05:57 PM] byte[]#2610
huh, I wonder how that happened https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/31/portland-protests-latest-peaceful-night-federal-troops-withdrawal

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[31-Jul-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[31-Jul-20 06:24 PM] wren#0114
china begone


[31-Jul-20 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a shithole whether or not you're religiously compelled (by means of suicide being a sin) to get into the van.


[31-Jul-20 07:11 PM] Opponent#3498
so the meaning of this is really unclear


[31-Jul-20 09:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/lqBeaQy9qPA

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[31-Jul-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bold move picking someone named Karen as your VP

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[31-Jul-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1289273442429071360

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The New York Times (@nytimes)
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1289273442429071360
Breaking News: Microsoft is in talks to buy TikTok, the Chinese-owned video app, as President Trump said on Friday that he was considering taking steps that would effectively ban the app from the U.S. https://t.co/a8jg5DKDT0
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[31-Jul-20 09:47 PM] ononim#8141
Russia opens international travel with UK


[31-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So much for the youth vote


[31-Jul-20 09:49 PM] ononim#8141
🇷🇺 🤡 🤝 🤡 🇬🇧

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[31-Jul-20 09:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It was a mistake for Twitter to get rid of Vine, tbh. That's why TikTok became popular, people wanted Vine back.


[31-Jul-20 09:49 PM] ononim#8141
the fcking emojis use GB for Britain instead of UK, disgusting


[31-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/510031-microsoft-in-talks-to-purchase-tiktok-report

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Microsoft in talks to purchase TikTok: report
Microsoft is in talks to purchase popular social media platform TikTok from Beijing-based company ByteDance, The New York Times reported Friday.
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[31-Jul-20 09:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Lol, I'm sure this will satisfy the "I don't care about my personal data being used for sketchy reasons as long as it's an American doing it" people right?

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[31-Jul-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
you joke, but prob yes


[31-Jul-20 10:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats exactly what i think


[31-Jul-20 10:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
As long as my personal data is outside of Russia its ok


[31-Jul-20 10:42 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Microsoft buys TikTok to use it as a supplement to Mixer


[31-Jul-20 10:43 PM] Marukomuru#8409
***oh wait***


[31-Jul-20 10:48 PM] ononim#8141
https://vk.com/video-24155845_456239362

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[31-Jul-20 10:49 PM] ononim#8141
> In Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, Rostov oblast, several doctors of the Central City Hospital intend to quit. The reasons are a massive outflow of personnel, chronic overload of doctors, lower wages, lack of additional payments, and an acute shortage of medicines.


[31-Jul-20 11:04 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/30/21348451/military-recruiting-twitch-ban-block-amendment-ocasio-cortez

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The Army paused its Twitch recruitment earlier this month.
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[31-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
> After impassioned speech, AOC’s ban on US military recruiting via Twitch fails House vote


[31-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1288971591968333826

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Imagine trying to explain to your colleagues who are members of Congress what Twitch is 😭
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[31-Jul-20 11:05 PM] Crow#5457
boomer congress

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[31-Jul-20 11:10 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1289273442429071360
@Teaspoon  you got to be kidding me?

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[31-Jul-20 11:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Another thing for MS to mismanage into the ground I guess


[31-Jul-20 11:10 PM] illumnious#7938
Welp, fuck it


[31-Jul-20 11:11 PM] illumnious#7938
I hate it even more


[31-Jul-20 11:19 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow "why would anyone even watch others play video games? whats the point? just play it yourself!" ~boomer


[31-Jul-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If anyone is dumb enough to watch this "vibecross" person on the twitch, they deserve to be recruited by the army"


[31-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You would get banned if you mentioned US war crimes, lel


[31-Jul-20 11:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even just linking the US war crimes Wikipedia page


[31-Jul-20 11:53 PM] Pontology#1010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G5eEJTtKUw

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When Wokes and Racists Actually Agree on Everything
Written and Directed by Ryan Long!

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[31-Jul-20 11:54 PM] jlun2#8758
can we just agree pot holes are bad


[31-Jul-20 11:54 PM] Pontology#1010
Me on the right when I unironically agree with progressives


[01-Aug-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/nunes-stays-silent-as-house-dems-claim-proof-he-got-foreign-disinfo-on-biden

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Nunes Stays Silent As House Dems Claim Proof He Got Foreign Disinfo...
House Democrats pushed House Intelligence Committee ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) to say in a closed-door meeting on Wednesday...
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[01-Aug-20 12:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh look it's all our favorite players from Trump's cheerleading team


[01-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpIkl2QnJeI

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[01-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 will be Nunes, Jordan, and Scott all having pathetic campaigns for president while Ivanka and Tucker Carlson constantly dunk on them for being dumb toadies that have no stances of their own and pathetically tried to ride Trump's coattails


[01-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah dude, we're gonna get some left field shit like a televangelist or the mypillow guy


[01-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Carlson is definitely building up his stock.


[01-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think Jr. will run, I think it will be Ivanka.


[01-Aug-20 01:24 AM] jlun2#8758
kanye west ofc


[01-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's severely mentally ill and needs help, not people to further his sickness.


[01-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The same was true for Trump


[01-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Now look at him


[01-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
sycophants don't care if their liege is insane so long as they pat their little headsies


[01-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I worry about is the GOP running a "smarter Trump" in the future. Someone with policies that are just as awful but who'll cloak his language in euphemisms and not constantly post *obviously*-discrediting things on social media.

Someone with the politics of the far-right but the *temperament* of a moderate, which is enough to sway people who aren't really politically engaged.


[01-Aug-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
yes


[01-Aug-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
they're going to be boomer as hell too


[01-Aug-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not necessarily. I think if someone like Stephen Miller made a run for it, he could convincingly snap up the q fanbase


[01-Aug-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-students-banned-from-science-learning-bryant-messner-2020-7

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Trump-endorsed GOP candidate says Chinese students should be banned...
"Let's educate them in freedom and individual liberty," the Trump-approved Senate candidate said during a closed-door meeting.
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[01-Aug-20 03:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "I think one of the things we ought to do ... is say to the students, those students, 'You're welcome to study here, but you must study economics, the American constitution, freedom,'" Messner said. "Not study the hard sciences, computer science, physics, chemistry, and not give them that kind of education. Let's educate them in freedom and individual liberty.
> 
> "They're exerting their influence throughout the world and it is time for us to be serious about the Chinese Communist Party. Yes, sir," Messner added.

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[01-Aug-20 03:11 AM] jlun2#8758
only banning chem & physics? I thought CS was the hot new thing
also i thought people mocked liberal arts degrees


[01-Aug-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least until it's useful for forcefully sabotaging foreign students


[01-Aug-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Come learn economics in this country who is intentionally really bad at economics!"


[01-Aug-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/29/894799516/pending-postal-service-changes-could-delay-mail-and-deliveries-advocates-warn

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Critics charge the new postmaster general intends to make the Postal Service more of a business than a service, which opponents say could cause disruptions for customers.
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[01-Aug-20 03:51 AM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Aug-20 03:55 AM] jlun2#8758
then he wins in a landslide :wheeze: :ts_cry:


[01-Aug-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1289201322588241920

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Somebody please tell Congressman Clyburn, who doesn’t have a clue, that the chart he put up indicating more CASES for the U.S. than Europe, is because we do MUCH MORE testing than any other country in the World. If we had no testing, or bad testing, we would show very few CAS...
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[01-Aug-20 04:00 AM] byte[]#2610
Mind size: mega


[01-Aug-20 04:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-voting-absentee-2020-after-baseless-attacks-mail-in-voting-2020-7

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Trump says he's voting absentee in the 2020 election after months o...
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[01-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-rocks-us-full-of-entitlement.html

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Elon Musk says 'China rocks' while the U.S. is full of 'complacency...
Tesla CEO Elon Musk, in an interview out Friday, compared the U.S. to a sports team that stands poised to lose after years of winning.
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[01-Aug-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/us-election-2020/hong-kong-election-delay-white-house-trump-2020-china-a9648546.html

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White House condemns China for delaying Hong Kong elections despite...
'Do I want to see a date change? No, but I don't want to see a crooked election,' President Trump said Thursday evening
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[01-Aug-20 04:22 AM] byte[]#2610
404 irony bone not found


[01-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares if we don't have election results for months


[01-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What's the worst that happens, we have an acting president on January 20?


[01-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, at this point not having a president would be a step up.


[01-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Goddamn, I ask him about this all the time, but why is he so fucking retarded


[01-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Combination of factors. Being spoiled, not really getting an education, being racist, etc.


[01-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why do I have a feeling trump would lower his opponent’s votes by brute forcing


[01-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1289358246541553664

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[01-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just when you thought the man couldn't be any more of a dumbfuck


[01-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Litrojia#0612
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/trump-says-he-will-ban-tiktok-through-executive-action-as-soon-as-saturday.html happening

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Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action as soon as S...
President Donald Trump on Friday told reporters he will act as soon as Saturday to ban Chinese-owned video app TikTok from the United States.
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[01-Aug-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
my question is "how"


[01-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Really shows his priorities I guess


[01-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
champion of free speech


[01-Aug-20 05:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*This'll* really endear him to the hip young social media crowd, also


[01-Aug-20 05:13 AM] Opponent#3498
if Russia can do it, so can he, right? Right? xD


[01-Aug-20 05:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Surprised he hasn't tried banning LOSER WASHINGTON POST OWNED Twitch yet over his channel getting suspended


[01-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the big brain strats. Show everyone he can win just on Q devotees. Kill off the elderly with the virus, alienate the young with app bans, allienate everyone else with Portland and shit.


[01-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And yeah, the question is still "how"


[01-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine if he does though :wheeze:


[01-Aug-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
unlike in most other cases of this, I am certainly not opposed to apple and google voluntarily yanking this app from their appstore due to it being literal proven chinese spyware


[01-Aug-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
but the president banning it by executive order, instead of striking it down with a law? absolutely nuts


[01-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, sure, that'd be fine.


[01-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US doesn't have rosko or the great firewall, so the best they can do is tell app stores to not carry it


[01-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But people can still get it from wherever


[01-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53614343

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Ten dead after drinking sanitiser in Indian state
Local liquor shops were shut under a local coronavirus lockdown in a village in Andhra Pradesh.
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[01-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(not because of belief it's a cure, but alcohol addiction)


[01-Aug-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
liquor stores are essential businesses


[01-Aug-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
idk what the fuck these local legislators are thinking


[01-Aug-20 05:19 AM] byte[]#2610
alcohol withdrawal will literally kill you


[01-Aug-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mostly, not thinking


[01-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'll find it amusing if tobacco shops were left open, though


[01-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315599340385075218/738835756470108160/video0-52.mp4

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[01-Aug-20 05:39 AM] jlun2#8758
>  alienate the young with app bans
pretty sure politics itself already does that


[01-Aug-20 05:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
TikTok is basically Chinese spyware though.
Good riddance.


[01-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only Americans can steal my data!


[01-Aug-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
google: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304671348750417920/738610737345331270/BakeGan.png

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[01-Aug-20 05:43 AM] jlun2#8758
thats legit the dumb teens moving off facebook to instagram because of privacy @Itsthinking


[01-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for the future where everything is owned by Pepsi Co


[01-Aug-20 05:50 AM] byte[]#2610
or their competitor Coca Cola


[01-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Future where everything is owned by Pepsico is constant ads of "Are we okay?"


[01-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Pepsi actually had an ad joking about the "Is Pepsi okay" thing a few years back)


[01-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop being cowards and bring back Pepsiman.


[01-Aug-20 05:54 AM] wren#0114
if pepsi buys disney would it be an improvement to tv


[01-Aug-20 05:55 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[01-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Synfag#9241
with the current social climate
this became much funnier

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[01-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
>750x379


[01-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Synfag#9241
why post high res if I only want to show AJ greeting Twi?


[01-Aug-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610

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[01-Aug-20 06:04 AM] byte[]#2610
found the exact frame


[01-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Synfag#9241
unless you're a Mac user or is using a PC with 4k monitor


[01-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Synfag#9241
not everybody has that privilege


[01-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Synfag#9241
even if they're white


[01-Aug-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
literally took <5min to find the moment


[01-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Synfag#9241
the smaller image is what I have on hand


[01-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Synfag#9241
it's better than nothing


[01-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Synfag#9241
and it looks fine on my phone


[01-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Google/status/1288847740194050048

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[01-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Crow#5457
holy fucking shit


[01-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, no way *this* clusterfuck of an idea could be abused


[01-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
this is how the nazis got jews marked with the star of david


[01-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Crow#5457
and is that the fucking ancom flag in the background?


[01-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
god damn it, google

Like, I really believe this shit is just incompetence rather than malevolence but god *damn* is this a stupid and dangerous idea


[01-Aug-20 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
How many years has it been since they dropped the "don't be evil" rule


[01-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
6?


[01-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
```this is how the nazis got jews marked with the star of david```
this is how nazis would WISH it would go xD With full public support and zero damage to the image.


[01-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Opponent#3498
because yes, they did care about their image somewhat, apparently. Even though persecuting the jews was acceptable by international law.


[01-Aug-20 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont think the tech bros are socially aware of their actions


[01-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The problem is that they don't need full or even majority public support to do heinous things.

Police continue to largely get away with brutality and even killing. Children are still locked up in cages and exposed to absolutely horrible conditions. Most of the country agrees this is bad, but it's still *happening,* so.


[01-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is unlikely to have come from the top


[01-Aug-20 07:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't think it was google's intent to cause any kind of damage.
As a corporation, they're just in this for money.


[01-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Y e p


[01-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
well that's always the thing, they don't intend to be evil but maximizing the "goal" can make them behave in an evil way


[01-Aug-20 07:58 AM] byte[]#2610
It's okay, because the children locked up in cages are _foreign children_, so they don't count


[01-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"WELL, IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE LOCKED UP THEY (i.e. their parents, because these children have no choice where they're taken) SHOULDN'T HAVE BROKEN THE LAW"


[01-Aug-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/31/underage-girl-forced-to-have-sex-with-prince-andrew-us-court-document-jeffrey-epstein

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[01-Aug-20 08:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"forced to have sex with" -> "raped by"


[01-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
awful


[01-Aug-20 08:02 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking cowards, just say it, not like he's gonna hurt you


[01-Aug-20 08:02 AM] byte[]#2610
you're too old for his tastes

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[01-Aug-20 08:24 AM] Opponent#3498
```maximizing the "goal" can make them behave in an evil way```
reminds me of paperclip maximiser, an AI apocalypse scenario involving a being focused solely on a normally entirely harmless task, to the exclusion of everything else.


[01-Aug-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what the people have reduced themselves to.


[01-Aug-20 08:25 AM] Opponent#3498
a bootleg inferior AI.


[01-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Historians will archive this under "actually society deserved the early 21st century collapse"
https://youtu.be/oa4i9Ap6dCg

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[01-Aug-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/famous-people-jeffery-epstein-money-manager-sexual-trafficking-connected-2019-7

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Here are all the famous people Jeffrey Epstein was connected to
One of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers testified in court that Bill Clinton visited Epstein's island, unsealed documents show.
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[01-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1289440861176991744

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[01-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A needless public gathering during a pandemic, and right after a prolific Republican died from covid. Trump is unconscionable.


[01-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These people are my political opponents, my "enemies" I suppose. 

I still fear for their safety and hate that they're needlessly endangering themselves; Knowing what covid does to a person, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, it's a *terrible* way to die, and even if you survive you end up with lasting damage to your lungs.

Of course, they're endangering *other* people too, since I'm sure that if someone catches it at the rally they'll pass it along to other people.


[01-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
What if Trump just wants all his opponents to die of corona?


[01-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
By encouraging *his* supporters to abandon masks???


[01-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:bigbrain:


[01-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They will spread it and eventually infect opponents.


[01-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, Trump. Old people are your strongest voting bloc, and you're *killing them.*


[01-Aug-20 03:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He literally does not care about his voter base, they are mindless pawns to him  to bend to his will.


[01-Aug-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also seems to be looking into ways to circumvent election results whether he wins or not.


[01-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585148689354326038/738790658936143913/video0_43.mp4

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[01-Aug-20 03:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Smug Trixie that is probably russia btw


[01-Aug-20 03:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
first part-no


[01-Aug-20 03:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we dont have road markings that good

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[01-Aug-20 03:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
second part-yes,russia

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[01-Aug-20 04:18 PM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1289440861176991744
@Smug Trixie  yeah, I fucking hate it

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[01-Aug-20 04:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Yikes


[01-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1289571287204012036

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https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1289571287204012036
Not sure what burning the Bible has to do with protesting against police brutality. These Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland. 

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[01-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Finally protestors did something good


[01-Aug-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus/260-coronavirus-cases-tied-to-north-georgia-camp-outbreak/NZDPEZRRUNHT7CVE43JOPUAVSY

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Georgia camp outbreak shows rapid virus spread among children
Some 260 cases of the coronavirus have been tied to attendees and staff at a North Georgia children’s camp in June, according to a report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, one of the largest known superspreading events in the state.
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[01-Aug-20 04:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[01-Aug-20 05:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Remember when US faked 9/11 so the rest of the world would fight in the middle east?

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[01-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://xkcd.com/690/ They only faked half of it

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xkcd: Semicontrolled Demolition
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/semicontrolled_demolition.png
I believe the truth always lies halfway between the most extreme claims.


[01-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*/scrolls up*
@byte[] You see, they can't use the word "rape" because all their advertisers will pull out and then YouTube will demonetize them :depressed: 😔 :sad:

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[01-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
unironically likely, this or something like this.


[01-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53622797

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Thousands protest against Germany virus curbs
Demonstrators march though Berlin, saying face masks and other measures violate their rights.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/8581/production/_113777143_mediaitem113777140.jpg


[01-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Germans protesting against masks and corona restrictions


[01-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
stupidity is clearly virulent.


[01-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Are you still wearing masks Opponent?


[01-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Opponent#3498
some private businesses (like my favourite courier service) demand wearing masks on their premises, but as a general rule, no.


[01-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
the official quarantine seemed to have ended in June, even 'less restrictive' one.


[01-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Then what exactly is stupid in this anti corona restrictions protest?


[01-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
first, we don't have a government mandate for it and they do. Second, I assume (with little to base it on but circumstantial evidence, mind) they have it worse than we do, so in general it's likely to be more useful.


[01-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[01-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
this is one of those instances where I'd actually be willing to trust the government, even ours or russian. If nothing else, simply because they have stats.


[01-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[01-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, so I guess the discontent is more legit than it seems at a glance. I'd trust germans to have better testing, too.


[01-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
fair enough, I stand corrected.


[01-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
imo only thing that scares me is post corona health complication but im not entirely sure if everyone get it or just some unlucky folks


[01-Aug-20 06:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvFFYu1RGM

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[01-Aug-20 06:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie Yeah no anti mask protests are stupid no mater where you are


[01-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude people are tired of all this corona bullshit,they just want things to be normal again plus this masks doesnt protect as some people think,u need a mask with exhalation valve and filter which should be changed in 6 hours or something like that


[01-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Aww, there so tired of the virus. They have to spend 5 seconds puting on a mask. So sad that a desease that has killed 600,000 people is inconvieniceing them.


[01-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They want things to be normal again? Wait till we get a vaccine.  Until then stay inside or put on a fucking mask.


[01-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
The no mask protests is fucking stupid because wearing masks is not asking for much and takes absolutely no effort


[01-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It only helps slow spread


[01-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/Hl6WYw6H-VM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6WYw6H-VM
Florida Is Doomed
This is the greatest Florida meeting of All Time
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[01-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
just fucking suck it up until the virus resides


[01-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMPA-dNzas

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFMPA-dNzas
Florida Is Horrible
This is the greatest state of All Time
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[01-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.mercycorps.org/blog/quick-facts-global-hunger

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The facts: What you need to know about global hunger


[01-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> > duDe pEoplE aRe tiReD oF ALl thIs coROnA BUlLshiT,tHEy JUsT WANt THiNgs To bE NORmaL AGAiN
@Smug Trixie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lzqRVuRqN0

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[01-Aug-20 06:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Corona restrictions gonna kill more people cause world economy are gonna be in stagnation

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[01-Aug-20 06:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But muh econmey!


[01-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
sacrifice people so red line go green


[01-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-07-28/virus-linked-hunger-tied-to-10-000-child-deaths-each-month

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Coronavirus-linked hunger tied to 10,000 child deaths each month
The United Nations says coronavirus-linked hunger is leading to the deaths of 10,000 children a month in the first year of the global pandemic.
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[01-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes,if green line goes red its bad for everyone,not just US


[01-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know whats worse: dieing from COIVD-19


[01-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Your chances to die like 2-3 percent


[01-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
you still run the risks of lifelong organ damage and complications


[01-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also if you want to stop the fammin here are some links to donate too


[01-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes im aware of that but im not sure if everyone has these risks or only unlucky one


[01-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.feedingamerica.org/  https://www.foodbankscanada.ca/

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1 in 7 people struggle with hunger in the U.S. Feeding America is a hunger relief organization with a nationwide network of food banks feeding the hungry. Get involved.

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[01-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> Yes im aware of that but im not sure if everyone has these risks or only unlucky one
@Smug Trixie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roNlgIY9QKw

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Some of You May Die
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[01-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its not up to me to save them bro,im making like 250-280$ month


[01-Aug-20 06:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bruh every bit helps.


[01-Aug-20 06:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
like even 5 bucks would help


[01-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/8kkBseVTUow

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Coronavirus Lockdown Protest
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[01-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy27GZrCtjk

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[01-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also to all the trump 2020 shit posted here about keeping amereica great: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshwilson/2020/07/25/upcoming-netflix-documentary-immigration-nation-reportedly-almost-blocked-by-ice/amp/ https://www.usdebtclock.org/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-portland/u-s-officials-defend-portland-crackdown-were-not-going-to-apologize-idUSKCN24L1I1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE

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Trump to send federal forces to more 'Democrat' cities
President Donald Trump on Monday said he would send law enforcement to more U.S. cities, as a federal crackdown on anti-racism protests in Oregon with unmarked cars and unidentified forces angered people across the country.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[01-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This look "great" to you?


[01-Aug-20 06:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
People whining about the economy being more important than the lives of the weak seem not to have picked up on the reality that the economic downturn will be necessary for as long as the pandemic is out of control. Which, in the USA, it still very much is.


[01-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Remember June 2nd, 2020. Trump admin gassed protesters to get a photo op with an upside down bible.


[01-Aug-20 06:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Under direct orders of William Barr, specifically


[01-Aug-20 06:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I truly believe that man, along with 2-3 others, shoulder most of the blame for the atrocities that have persisted under Trump's administration


[01-Aug-20 06:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's the #1 reason why Trump is still president today


[01-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
So why is trump flooding liberal cities with armed federal forces


[01-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Muh riots


[01-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Maybe he's trying to stop looters and other criminals


[01-Aug-20 06:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because he tasked Barr with reviewing police reform via EO a while back, and we're seeing the result of that now.


[01-Aug-20 06:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Some guy with a key and kite


[01-Aug-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyone who spends even 5 minutes collating and reviewing data will be faced with the reality that the presence of highly-militant and aggressive policing drives an increase in looting, rioting, and crime in general, and there isn't as strong of a causal link the other way around


[01-Aug-20 06:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which sounds counterintuitive to anyone who believes that (aggressive) policing as punitive or proactive measures works


[01-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"but but but muh riots"


[01-Aug-20 06:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah. Everyone is trying to compare Portland to the LA Riots (right down to the persistent fear that people in vehicles will suffer the same fate as Henry Watson, and thus the gut reaction to floor it if surrounded by protesters) and...that's not the reality of the situation at all


[01-Aug-20 06:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think the reason we keep seeing reports of people driving into crowds is because the "Henry Watson: it could happen to *you*" narrative has been pushed for *ages,* predating the surge in BLM


[01-Aug-20 07:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But see sense it's easy and lazy to go "muh riots bad" Trumpests will eagerly start boot lick kidnaping vans and be ok with gasing protsters for a photo op.


[01-Aug-20 07:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There is no logic to it. It's pure emotion-driven. That's not easy or lazy, because that would assume rational thought could possibly be a factor


[01-Aug-20 07:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trumpests in 2016: "Facts don't care about your feelings"


[01-Aug-20 07:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And appealing to emotions takes a *lot* of constant upkeep to maintain or you'll get outrage fatigue. You gotta condition people to constantly be reacting like this


[01-Aug-20 07:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trumpists now: "Muh feelings and emotions are reasons why kidnaping vans are ok and nothing bad happned on  June 2nd, 2020!"


[01-Aug-20 07:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
so, the challenge is to use emotions not to build emotional responses, but to instill innate fears


[01-Aug-20 07:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Footage of protesters who don't know agriculture sticking plants in a couple inches of topsoil and hoping for a garden isn't scary. Footage of violence, even if it's from another city or country entirely, is


[01-Aug-20 07:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you use that, and then you can build a narrative of "there's no cohesive message or leadership in the protests! [show footage of obviously failed garden] The rioters will take over the city! [footage of smashed windows]"


[01-Aug-20 07:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And all of that sort of ""thinking"" leads them to go into groups and echo chamber there bad ideas off of eachother.


[01-Aug-20 07:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and no one has to know that the protests, the whole way through, have only spanned a couple blocks


[01-Aug-20 07:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Of course, it would be bad for the naritive to know this.


[01-Aug-20 07:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and it would hurt the trumpests fee fees


[01-Aug-20 07:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and especially no one needs to know that the rioters caught on camera are turning out to be white supremacists and others opposed to the protest's cause trying to incite violence


[01-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Again of course it would hurt the naritive of the anti sjw echo chambers.


[01-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's much easyer to go "riots bad orange man good" and then spam with videos on pro Trump things


[01-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ofcourse these videos are cherry picking and the numbers for trump are not the best


[01-Aug-20 07:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
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[01-Aug-20 07:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
On another note I can't beleave I talked to an anti masker that wasn't on yt comments


[01-Aug-20 07:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anti scince bullshit like that needs to go away


[01-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUeIBQoQCU

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[01-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQEzIXT8cE

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Good Morning America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQEzIXT8cE
Refusal to wear face masks triggers crackdowns l GMA
ABC News’ Dr. Jennifer Ashton busts common myths about face masks as airlines and states issue mandatory mask requirements.

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[01-Aug-20 07:39 PM] Crow#5457
@Smug Trixie https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3561560


[01-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Crow#5457
> Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: Evidence from the 1918 Flu


[01-Aug-20 07:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But but but the anti maskers feelings on masks being bad! They have to where a mask when they don't want too! There so opressed and sick of whereing masks! 😦


[01-Aug-20 07:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
(Please ignore the people who are actuly being opressed like the prosters in laffte square and the people who where kidnaped in Portland)


[01-Aug-20 07:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
>>statistics from 100 years ago


[01-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[01-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Staticts from when Amereica faced a simmlar threat


[01-Aug-20 07:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i dont think its working that way dude,those times were much different,plus can you really trust statistics that old?


[01-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Feds want people to work and spread missinformation to trick people back to work so they can die


[01-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah looks like the same thing


[01-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But statitcits old!" Posted  26 Mar 2020


[01-Aug-20 07:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.


[01-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/senate-mcconnell-trump-firewall/index.html

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McConnell signal to Republican Senate candidates: Distance from Tru...
Sen. Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.
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[01-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ditch prez to save the Senate  (inb4 "cnn bad")


[01-Aug-20 08:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bit late for that, you kinda tied the senate and GOP rule to Trump when you ate his shit during the removal trial


[01-Aug-20 08:00 PM] byte[]#2610
They smell the blood in the water now


[01-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They know 2016 was a fluke that fell within the margin of error.


[01-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They see how fucked they are when Nov comes.


[01-Aug-20 08:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Why do you think Trump is flaleing around to delay election? He knows his only chance is if the ecomney comes back up.


[01-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1289526289200644096

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'F*ck Trump!' | Bible and US flag set alight on 65th night of protests in #Portland https://t.co/3c60egqEa3
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[01-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1289490684169170945

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https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1289490684169170945
More flag burning at the antifa/ BLM gathering in downtown Portland. Video by @FromKalen. #PortlandRiots https://t.co/okngG7eRYK
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[01-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>RT Ok putin money


[01-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>flag burning bad


[01-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>"too much freedom >:("


[01-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Are you gonna be upset if someone burn LGTB or transgender pride flag?


[01-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not really no.


[01-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's there flag, there property.


[01-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Why should I give a shit if they burn something they own?

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[01-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cause its also your flag?You live in US and should be grateful for living here

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[01-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>I live here


[01-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:wheeze:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyJ18tUP4p0

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[EAR RAPE -  BASS BOOST] Instrumental National anthem of Canada
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[01-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/NqBHav5puKA?t=244 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbkEFIVXLNw

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[01-Aug-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in the US and right now i cant really say i have much to be grateful to with the country itself


[01-Aug-20 08:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m grateful to my family who has let me live with them


[01-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crysler%27s_Farm

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[01-Aug-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the country itself would have let me go homeless


[01-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If you're willing to work you'll never be homeless

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[01-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And other jokes you tell yourself


[01-Aug-20 08:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have you seen housing prices and the minimum wage?


[01-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
10 or 11$ hours


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm willing to work


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
housing depends on state,iirc Utah has cheapest housing


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m willing to work, though no one is willing to hire me


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
and I have yet to find a job that will hire me. it's been two years. I have literally more skills at what I do than almost anyone my age


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] byte[]#2610
fuck off with your social darwinism bullshit


[01-Aug-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's been a good 5 years in my case


[01-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If noo ne wants to hire you for your specialty maybe you should try something else?


[01-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fun fact: Houseing isn't the only cost


[01-Aug-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This is true though you sort of need a house to obtain the other costs


[01-Aug-20 08:24 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Just try something else" ok that over looks the idea of paying for altertrive training


[01-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This isn't the 50's anymore, you can't just go into a factory and snag a good job. Robots have come and are takeing that shit away.


[01-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Chinese*


[01-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8_F8I1Y_U

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Accursed Farms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY8_F8I1Y_U
Ross Rants: Robot Jobs
Ross rants about robots.

Follow-up discussion here:
https://youtu.be/v5dt_QhzOXM?t=6m7s

www.accursedfarms.com
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[01-Aug-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and online applications took away the ability to just walk into a place with a help wanted sign and ask for AN Interview


[01-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If you cant find a good job you should start with a shitty one for experience dont you think?

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[01-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Burh.


[01-Aug-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That;s not how that works anymore


[01-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You can't get starter jobs. You can't get ones just for the experince.


[01-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you guys have a platform, where employers look for you and not you?


[01-Aug-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
starter jobs dont exist unless you;re a teenager


[01-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse they all requre you to have experince


[01-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and a collage deploma


[01-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Ah, well known deadlock


[01-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's one big catch 22. Your living in the past.


[01-Aug-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
starter jobs avoid hiring full on adults because they tend to have labor law knowledge unlike most teenagers


[01-Aug-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and again, they still wont hire me


[01-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If no one can find a job how all those others 300 millions of people lives?


[01-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's second one of my biggest questuions.


[01-Aug-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
they live with their parents


[01-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Q1: How do these people manage to dedicate 24/7 tiem to their useless hobby, earn well and stay sane.


[01-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The 300 million people are mostly older people who got starter jobs and have the years of experince. Our gernation has run into a road block.


[01-Aug-20 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They have no health benefits


[01-Aug-20 08:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of people have managed to put themselves in a good position using streaming, and online art sales, but unless you can market connections, that won;t get you many places


[01-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Good for extaverts


[01-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Bad for intravers. I HATE dealing with peopel


[01-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Forget "networking"


[01-Aug-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I have no social marketability so me starting up something requiring networking pretty much hits a roadblock dead on


[01-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'd love to get a job doing almost anything. Can't beacuse no one will higher me.


[01-Aug-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
starting a business also takes a long ass time


[01-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You have one slot open up for a low skill job and 300 people want it.


[01-Aug-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Apply with walmart" also has the above problem


[01-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ive done that actuly. even went with mcdonalds.


[01-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How come you guys have negligible unemployment in US?


[01-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
1 intervew and then never a call back


[01-Aug-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because our numbers are fudged


[01-Aug-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our unemployment number leaves out a lot of variables


[01-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The idiot virus is spreading
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53622797

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Thousands protest against Germany virus curbs
Demonstrators march though Berlin, saying face masks and other measures violate their rights.
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[01-Aug-20 08:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The same technically goes for our poverty numbers because it cuts off lower than it should


[01-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
it is.


[01-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
anti mask protests are stupid no mater where they are.


[01-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk guys all this sounds really weird,if illegal mexicans can find a job im sure u guys who's got college degrees and shit can find a job easily


[01-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u might have to move in other state tho


[01-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's a difference between the types of jobs you;re thinking of


[01-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
undocumented immigrants take up jobs that pay too low for americans to want to take and tend to come with a lot of abuse


[01-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Why do you think they get a job? There underpaid for the work they do. Not even minum wage


[01-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I wonder if you have a pratform, where you register and fill in your CV on it without BS and then companies contact you and invite to the interview directly?


[01-Aug-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have temp offices but those tend to be located in cities rather than in the middle of farmland nowhere


[01-Aug-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and "Just move to a more convenient location" is a bit moot when you have neither the mobility nor income to make that work


[01-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Can you apply for unemployment?They gotta find a job for you or pay you some money,right?


[01-Aug-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unemployment only comes after you;ve been fired from a business


[01-Aug-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and as i have not been fired, i cannot apply for unemployment


[01-Aug-20 08:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless i am cripplingly disabled


[01-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Guess I'm "lucky" that I have ocd


[01-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yay geting paid for going thru sleepless nights panic attacks and intrusive thoughts


[01-Aug-20 08:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have aspergers but i don't think that qualifies me as "crippled"


[01-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oldie but goodie


[01-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.redd.it/apeamb7wo9e41.jpg

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[01-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You lose your monopoly over ALL the eggs


[01-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Why are you doing this"


[01-Aug-20 08:52 PM] byte[]#2610
> if illegal mexicans can find a job
you know what jobs they work in? farms, slaughterhouses, gardening, etc., highly seasonal work. and you know how much they get paid? pennies per hour


[01-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But but but muh narative that only lazy people are homeless"


[01-Aug-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
your ignorance of the job market in this country is fucking profound and you seem to have absolutely no clue what it's like not to have an "in"


[01-Aug-20 08:53 PM] byte[]#2610
@Gordon Freeman social darwinism.


[01-Aug-20 08:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I had to have an "in" just to get a job at walmart in 2010


[01-Aug-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
also, if you take such a job, you get paid under the table due to federal min wage laws, which means that you're legally on the hook if you ever get caught having been in such a job


[01-Aug-20 08:55 PM] byte[]#2610
the system is almost perfectly designed to punish poor people who are trying to _get out_ of poverty


[01-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510126-trump-campaign-targets-bass-amid-speculation-over-pick-for-bidens-running

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/510126-trump-campaign-targets-bass-amid-speculation-over-pick-for-bidens-running
Trump campaign targets Bass amid speculation over Biden VP pick
President Trump’s reelection campaign ramped up criticism of Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) on Saturday amid speculation that she could be tapped to be former Vice President Joe Biden’s running mate.
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[01-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The criticism is that she went to Cuba 50 years ago and called Fidel Castro by his title when he died.


[01-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I get Cuban-Americans are a big voting base in South Florida but is it really _this_ sensitive?


[01-Aug-20 09:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/

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In today’s labor market, the unemployment rate drastically understates the weakness of job opportunities. This is due to the existence of a large pool of “missing workers”—potential workers who, because of weak job opportunities, are neither employed nor actively seeking a job...
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[01-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-a-covid-19-test-led-to-charges

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How a $175 COVID-19 Test Led to $2,479 in Charges
A global pandemic ravaging America is no time to forget the first rule of American health care: There is no set price. One out-of-network medical provider in Texas seeks permission from patients to charge fees as high as six-figures to their insurance.
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[01-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
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[01-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Synfag#9241
https://reclaimthenet.org/final-ruling-patreon-owen-benjamin-injunction-denied/

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Court's final ruling against Patreon opens legal avenue to defend a...
Patreon now has to pay arbitration fees that could total millions of dollars.
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[01-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Synfag#9241
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[01-Aug-20 10:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmm, weird how a law made in :communism: California!!! :communism: would protect Mike Cernovich of all people! :caddy:


[01-Aug-20 10:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
cancel culture is the modern form of guillotine with literally none of the consequences


[01-Aug-20 10:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But too bad, i still care more about freedom of political opinion and organization in actual jobs


[01-Aug-20 10:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cancel culture does not exist as a distinct phenomenon, period


[01-Aug-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's no dedicated culture of people going around digging out dirt on famous people to stop liking them thereafter, the term doesn't make sense


[01-Aug-20 10:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's just people finding out nasty stuff about important figures that will inevitably affect how they see them


[01-Aug-20 10:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And it's not like these important figures will be affected in any serious way -- Mel Gibson's still doing fine after all these years and all his racist shenanigans iirc


[01-Aug-20 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, arguably there are people whose entire jobs are to dig up dirt on famous people. It's just that suddenly people thought "hey maybe there should be consequences for this stuff"


[01-Aug-20 10:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the real problem is those people looking for dirt aren't prosecutors, they're paparazzi


[01-Aug-20 10:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then that's the inevitable problem of paparazzi, gossip and fame


[01-Aug-20 10:34 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So all we're seeing now is the blacklisting that's always been going on is being spun as "cancelling"


[01-Aug-20 10:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but no one cares about, for instance, the decade that The Chicks (now back together as a band) spent unable to get airplay because they insulted GWB once onstage during peak 9/11 jingoism


[01-Aug-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.jarednelsen.dev/posts/The-horrifically-dystopian-world-of-software-engineering-interviews

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A Synopsis of The Current State of Software Engineering Interviews

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[01-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] And what do you think about this?


[01-Aug-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
why do you think I can't get a job?


[01-Aug-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
is it because I'm not suitable for any jobs in the software world?


[01-Aug-20 11:03 PM] byte[]#2610
there's a follow up post too https://www.jarednelsen.dev/posts/what-to-do-when-you-reach-number-1-on-hacker-news

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A reaction to having an article blasted across the entire internet


[01-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I got into IT by  asking to take me for internship. I had no experience (because M!cro$oft  stack). They liked it and took me as regular employee.


[01-Aug-20 11:05 PM] byte[]#2610
hiring culture in 🇷🇺 is way different than in 🇺🇸


[01-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Maybe I was lucky or because it was a small company. Oh by the way, it was 🇿🇦 .


[01-Aug-20 11:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You know these "family like company"


[01-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] Do you have something equivalent to that and have you tried that too? https://www.offerzen.com/

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Tech Jobs in South Africa - OfferZen
Finding work doesn’t have to be work. On OfferZen, companies apply to you with upfront job specs and salary info.
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[01-Aug-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
of course, there are many such places


[01-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cancel culture is what people have always wanted.


[01-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
online scarlet letter


[01-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cancel culture is just politics transplanted to everyday social interactions.


[01-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone can find a Willy Horton, or a _Monkey Business_, or a Swift Boat.


[01-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oddly, as cancel culture became a big thing, the scandal basically left modern political relevance.


[01-Aug-20 11:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] By the way, the first article reminds me one of fellow colleagues who got the interview question:
"Build airline booking system. You CANNOT use datetime libraries, you have to code it yourself. You have 80 minutes. No googling."


[01-Aug-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
hah I haven't even gotten a request to be interviewed yet


[01-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Scandals don't sink modern political campaigns anymore.


[01-Aug-20 11:18 PM] byte[]#2610
just rejections from online apps


[01-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can just claim you're being attacked unfairly, and eventually people will move on.


[01-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] I have been through this BS too, even got heavily depressed.


[01-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Oh and one more thing: non-mainstream tech usually is useless.


[01-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And if the tech is used, they expect you to know popular applications.
For instance, I know R and they expected me to have experience with OR and ML


[01-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yet, this language can be used for web dev.


[01-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
I've gotten interview requests.


[01-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's awful.


[01-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The absolute best interview experience I've had so far was with the place I got an internship at.


[01-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a joke.


[01-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
They basically tested whether I could reason about inheritance in OO (should there be a parent class for software managing family trees? etc., obviously not)


[01-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they moved on to whether I knew not to do Fibonacci recursively and what the time complexity was


[01-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Nebbie#8545
Then they moved on to the actual bit that was closest to anything useful, asking me to write, in Java, on a board, an algorithm to test binary tree equality.


[01-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I had the best interview experience, where they talked about "culture" and asked me to make a small app demonstrating OOP patterns and basics at home.


[01-Aug-20 11:25 PM] byte[]#2610
the answer to "should there be a parent class" is like 90% of the time "no" unless you are writing a compiler or a GUI


[01-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
IIRC I wrote exactly this: ```Java
Public Static Boolean TreeEqual(Tree tree1, Tree tree2){
  if (tree1 == Null || tree2 == Null) {
    return tree1 == tree2;
  } else {
    return TreeEqual(tree1.left()) && TreeEqual(tree2.left() && TreeEqual(tree1.right(), tree2.right()));
  }
}```


[01-Aug-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
ez


[01-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
They considered that impressive, because it was so simple.


[01-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Seemingly, others had written more complex algorithms for the question.


[01-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because  recursive is complex in first place


[01-Aug-20 11:29 PM] byte[]#2610
insane


[01-Aug-20 11:30 PM] byte[]#2610
that is like the only way I would ever think of doing it, I can't imagine you would do it any other way then maybe more explicit null tests


[01-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Literally all it does is say "does one tree hav something the other doesn't? THEN THEY AREN'T EQUAL"


[01-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect people had more null tests, yes.


[01-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's also possible others had misinterpreted the question; it only specified a binary tree that could contain nodes themselves, nothing actually stored in them.


[01-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
But people would likely expect some sort of storage.


[01-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
But even then, it's a simple adaptation to prepend an equality test of any stored value in the else clause.


[01-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
I suspect most people didn't realize you could do literally 2 returns in an if-else.


[01-Aug-20 11:33 PM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646431933244375041/739229014568468511/unknown.png

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[01-Aug-20 11:34 PM] byte[]#2610
fixed code
```java
public static boolean TreeEqual(Tree tree1, Tree tree2)
{
  if (tree1 == null || tree2 == null) {
    return tree1 == tree2;
  } else {
    return TreeEqual(tree1.left(), tree2.left()) && TreeEqual(tree1.right(), tree2.right());
  }
}
```

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[01-Aug-20 11:35 PM] wren#0114
that was bothering me


[01-Aug-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> Scandals don't sink modern political campaigns anymore.
tbh i dont scandals do shit unless there's legal consequences. see derpi.


[01-Aug-20 11:35 PM] wren#0114
but if it's a binary tree with just nodes no values, then the .right() check wouldn't matter till the end


[01-Aug-20 11:36 PM] byte[]#2610
in this case it checks if the structures are equal


[01-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Depends on the scandal,  it can be engineered to be "Dark PR" as they call it. @jlun2


[01-Aug-20 11:36 PM] wren#0114
o, I assumed it was balanced


[01-Aug-20 11:37 PM] byte[]#2610
balanced binary trees with the same number of nodes do not have to have identical structures


[01-Aug-20 11:38 PM] wren#0114
what is the word to describe this then

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[01-Aug-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
you might be thinking of a complete binary tree


[01-Aug-20 11:39 PM] byte[]#2610
in which case yes the structures _have_ to be identical


[01-Aug-20 11:40 PM] wren#0114
yeah, suppose I assumed that


[01-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yeah, I did do both left and right, just forgot typing it just now.


[01-Aug-20 11:42 PM] wren#0114
the only time I've had to do binary trees for interview was for here ^:)


[01-Aug-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
and you still got hired even though you didn't do it correctly xd


[01-Aug-20 11:43 PM] wren#0114
:lul:


[01-Aug-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
I just wanted to see how you would fare with a coding question, and was happy to offer help if you needed it


[01-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They rather look for your way of thinking and solving, than correct answer.


[01-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Even some interviews asked for pseudocode solution


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is being asked to write pseudocode on the spot in a minute is still problematic.


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when paired with online interviews that do real code.


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
I had one hell of an interview test one time...


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] wren#0114
speaking of, I need to get back to the client validation stuff


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Or draw flow diagram and tell how is your app going to work.


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was asking for identifying rectangular islands of 1s in a binary grid.


[01-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
So like


[01-Aug-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
I eventually figured out what they were looking for with that


[01-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
```00010000
11101000
11001001
00000001```


[01-Aug-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
after thinking about it on and off for _almost a fucking year_ I finally figured out what the "right" solution was


[01-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
The correct answer for that should be (1. 1, 4), (5, 1, 2), (8, 2, 2)


[01-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
I actually did come up with something that sort of worked.


[01-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
But only after they grilled me for trying to make it not be horrifically inefficient.


[01-Aug-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
they were almost certainly looking for one of these two solutions:
- discrete gradient
- DCT


[01-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
(I used a brute force solution after some prodding)

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[01-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
See, you'd think that.


[01-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
But the strong impression I was given was that since I tried to figure out one of those, I did it wrong.


[01-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
And that I should hav done brute force from the start.


[01-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
They *wanted* horrifically inefficient code that does O(n^3)


[01-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was a test of whether I could get something to Just Work Immediately (and never fix it later).


[01-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
And *in general* I can, but this was a problem where brute force is extremely awful and will fukk you over if you release it.


[01-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I thought 1,1,4 is not island because of extra 1


[01-Aug-20 11:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> It was a test of whether I could get something to Just Work Immediately (and never fix it later).
:ts_cry:
also i cant code shit outside stackoverflow


[01-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
You're allowed to cut off peninsulas, I think.


[01-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
It has to be the largest rectangle you can make of 1s that is larger than 1 in size.


[01-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Actually I think the output was supposed to be formatted like this:


[01-Aug-20 11:55 PM] jlun2#8758
"how do i combine numbers together"
* takes afternoon to make some buggy thing
* eh forget it. scraps it & paste in stackoverflow


[01-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
```
40002000
00000002
00000000```


[01-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looks like 2048


[01-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thats one of solutions


[01-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sum adjacent 1s vertically.
Sum adjacent 2s horisontally.


[02-Aug-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/report-kavanaugh-tried-his-damndest-to-dodge-trumps-tax-documents-case

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Sources privy to the justices’ conversations say Kavanaugh wanted to punt on two cases related to Trump’s financial documents—an approach that would’ve avoided conflict with the president.
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[02-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/01/world/berlin-germany-covid-19-protest-intl/index.html

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Thousands gather in Berlin to protest against Covid-19 restrictions
A large crowd of far-right groups gathered for a "sit-in" at Berlin's iconic Brandenburg Gate on Saturday to protest against the German government's coronavirus restrictions.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200801145652-berlin-coronavirus-restrictions-protest-0801-super-tease.jpg


[02-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[02-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, fuck


[02-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony:


[02-Aug-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
hopefully not about to get a wave of new infections


[02-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Simply box them in with concrete walls and police barricades and then simply tax each of them

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[02-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
I'll stand by Smug Trixie on this. Perhaps for them, the need to be focused on the masks is over; not every place in the world has it as bad as US does.


[02-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
or perhaps they're mistaken. Still, for germans to actually be doing something like this, they need to genuinly believe it.


[02-Aug-20 12:49 AM] byte[]#2610
We'll see


[02-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's not the french, 'we'll light ourselves on fire and then fistfight the riot cops'


[02-Aug-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
The right to protest cannot be infringed, but these people had better know what the risks are


[02-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[02-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Marches[45]#0674
@Nebbie Jeez, I’d go belly-up with those questions.


[02-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, that's the problem.


[02-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I can handle stuff like that without any stress, but I'm still not considered good enuff.


[02-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interviewers see my limited experience and see the slightest slipup and go "welp let's keep looking".


[02-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The thing with the binary tree only worked out cause it was an internship, the bar was way lower.


[02-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, "impressive" *isn't good enuff*.


[02-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Interviewers are operating in a world where letting one bad coder thru who doesn't know how to code will doom them.


[02-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
And all they can do is spam algorithmic questions at people to try to screen.


[02-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole process just burns people out over time.


[02-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Marches[45]#0674
You have to solve it by yourself instead of with help like an actual team of devs?


[02-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[02-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Closed-note stuff sucks.


[02-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're given a prompt and expected to just be able to handle it yourself easily.


[02-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any deviation and you're screwed.


[02-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
One company had me make an autocomplete thing.


[02-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
I found an algorithm for it, and an improved version.


[02-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, the improved algorithm thing, which was more my own code, made a different suggestion than in their test case; both were arguably correct, and my code's suggestion was *measurably* better.


[02-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the company apparently wasn't a big fan of that.


[02-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Innovation? I don’t know her.


[02-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically.


[02-Aug-20 01:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can literally drop in their lap something that would pass testing *better than their example* and they won't think it's good.


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure there was any way to "win" there.


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
make your own competing product


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause I'm pretty sure if my code followed their test case exactly, they'd still reject it cause of other reasons.


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, remember, I've got next to no on-paper experience.


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 months of an internship is all I can say.


[02-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Before I graduate, I gotta go save my old code projects to my own machines.


[02-Aug-20 01:07 AM] jlun2#8758
i thought school projects were mostly shit tho with things completely irrelevant to irl @Marches[45]


[02-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the record, one company refused to interview me because of lakk of experience.


[02-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
As in, the person doing the interview asked if what was on my resume was correct


[02-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
when I indicated that a lot of my experience was volunteer stuff, not actually jobs, she had to ask her boss whether it counted


[02-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
boss said no, interview over.


[02-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I get people every now and then telling me "oh don't worry about the '2 years experience' thing, that's just boilerplate"


[02-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I once had to code a command line version of Minesweeper.


[02-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
No fukk you it is not.


[02-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've had actual interviewers cut out the interview on finding I don't hav qualifying 2 years experience.


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I've just outright decided at this point that the positions aren't real, the point is to say "fuck you" to anyone who does not have strings to pull to get a job


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] byte[]#2610
I've applied to like 40 jobs and not even gotten an interview


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
or another way to say is, i legit thought interfaces & objects were completely worthless until i found a situation in my hobby that i would *love* to have interfaces & objects, but the language doesnt have it. School doesnt give me any motivation on why they're useful at all


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It' s not quite that.


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
What it really is is


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
"see goverment? We're hiring people, it's not nepotism and racism!"


[02-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The job listing is for documentation of things.


[02-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They know who they want to hire before the job listing is created.


[02-Aug-20 01:10 AM] jlun2#8758
dont they mostly hire white men for tech jobs tho


[02-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
They then hav the person apply for the job listing as a formality, and hav some HR people churn thru resumes in case they find someone even better.


[02-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That way if anyone outside does some investigating, they find everyone was hired thru the normal process everyone can apply for.


[02-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of realizing that it's all just headhunting and stringpulling.


[02-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the way, Valve is one of the more honest companies about this.


[02-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually went on a tour of their offices as part of a college trip and someone else in the group asked about hiring


[02-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They straightup said they don't hire people out of college or at-large.


[02-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They only headhunt, period.


[02-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
They wait until someone is making massive innovation at Microsoft etc. a few blokks away, then come over with a massive offer to come code for them instead.


[02-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Microsoft actually *does* hire people out of college, but only those who had good internships with them while in college, or friends of such.


[02-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, a lot of job listing are set up as a way to tick a box


[02-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Usually a position is listed internally for a few weeks for people to contact people they know about it, then it gets listed, but for the next month they're interviewing people that applied before it was even listed


[02-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's shit


[02-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not really treated as nepotism / cronyism, more as "well bob knows this guy and he says he's good, and we trust bob, so let's look at them first"


[02-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
The shit part for me is I hav connections from school, but none of them are at places that hav good openings.


[02-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course chances are the person _is_ decent enough, so even if someone else later on is better, the position's already taken because they never had a fair shot


[02-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've been screwed basically by random chance.


[02-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Place I interned at was hitting a point where they had to slow expansion (running out of office space); no new coders, and their main need was an inter-team communicator.


[02-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
So while I was literally keeping pace with people with 40 years of experience, I just...wasn't what they wanted to hire at the moment.


[02-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
And basically nowhere takes a 3 month internship seriously in ability to perform.


[02-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
One guy I knew who was offering to pull some strings works at a place over in Chicago, and they just havn't been hiring basically anyone the last few years.


[02-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another classmate works at a place that I kept applying for, but apparently they didn't listen to him, and for some reason also completely cancelled the position they were thinking about me for.


[02-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, at interview, this guy talked about how he was pulling 2 different jobs and unable to manage, and the position I was being interviewed for was one of the 2. He seemed quite happy that I had some actual understanding of things like ORMs.


[02-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
But then...nope, position decided to be not filled.


[02-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like...okay, so you're just going to keep working that one guy to death forever?


[02-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Relevant graph https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728076911208824852/739255339387453440/sIwwXtH.png

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[02-Aug-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
so close https://i.redd.it/3ygf38y9tee51.jpg

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[02-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Somewhere over saturn a plane just flew by


[02-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-07-30/column-kodak-drug-ingredients

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Column: Trump taps Kodak (yes, that Kodak) to bring stability to th...
The Trump administration is loaning Kodak $765 million to produce ingredients for prescription drugs -- something Kodak has never done before.
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[02-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[02-Aug-20 02:30 AM] byte[]#2610
?


[02-Aug-20 02:31 AM] byte[]#2610
Who thought this was a good idea


[02-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
> More than a few people likely were left scratching their heads when President Trump announced this week that the federal government will loan Eastman Kodak $765 million in taxpayer money to develop ingredients for generic drugs.
> 
> Kodak? The camera company? The producer of Kodachrome film, which Paul Simon adored for making you think all the world’s a sunny day?
> 
> Yes, that Kodak, the same 20th century photography giant that failed to transition to a 21st century era of digital cameras (even though it invented the darned things in 1975). The same Kodak that filed for bankruptcy protection in 2012.


[02-Aug-20 02:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:roseconfused:


[02-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> Indeed, why Kodak?
> 
> “That’s a very good question, one that I’m not sure I have a good answer for,” replied Richard Frank, a professor of health economics at Harvard Medical School.
> 
> Kodak owned the drug company Sterling Winthrop from 1988 to 1994, but it produced over-the-counter remedies such as aspirin, not more complicated prescription medicines.
> 
> Kodak’s executive chairman, Jim Continenza, said Kodak will utilize its “vast infrastructure, deep expertise in chemicals manufacturing, and heritage of innovation and quality” to help restore “a reliable American pharmaceutical supply chain.”
> 
> Um, OK. Except Kodak reported a first-quarter loss of $111 million pursuing business opportunities that it supposedly knows well, such as printers.


[02-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
seems like it's just rich people looting taxpayers again


[02-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
> After the massive loan from the Trump administration was revealed, giving the company a quarter-century to repay the money, Kodak’s stock soared by almost 2,000%.


[02-Aug-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
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America would be better if those damn minorities would just shut up
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[02-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, this is definitely a troll post, the people ignorant about their privilege never talk about how privileged they are


[02-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Crow#5457
too many little mistakes to even try to troll conservatives with


[02-Aug-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
I somehow missed this


[02-Aug-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
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[02-Aug-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thepointsguy.com/news/covid-outbreak-hurtigruten-norway/

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https://thepointsguy.com/news/covid-outbreak-hurtigruten-norway/
One of the first ships to resume cruising is having a COVID outbreak
Hurtigruten's Roald Amundsen was one of the first vessels to resume operations since the coronavirus-caused cruising shutdown began in March.
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[02-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Aug-20 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
we live in a society smh


[02-Aug-20 05:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
We have to choose between two 70-something senile boomers for president...


[02-Aug-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
if only something like the incumbent destroying every shred of the country's political integrity for personal gain could make my decision easy


[02-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at clock_


[02-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
TikTok still not banned smh


[02-Aug-20 05:40 AM] byte[]#2610
it's okay for you to be proud of yourself as president. it's not okay to put yourself above the law at every possible turn of events and actively undermine democracy


[02-Aug-20 05:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
TikTok is spyware, and I hope he actually bans it.


[02-Aug-20 05:41 AM] byte[]#2610
Indeed, it is literal proven chinese spyware


[02-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
whoops! ukraine 2.0 https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/1/21350810/us-ambassador-brazil-chapman-favor-ethanol-trump-reelection

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The US ambassador to Brazil reportedly asked Brazilian officials to...
Brazilian news reports say the ambassador asked for a "favor." Democrats are demanding answers.
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[02-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Don't worry guys. Once Microsoft buys TikTok, then it will be American™ chinese spyware and it will be just fine 🦅 👍


[02-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Phelan#7647
Yes


[02-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh this year sucks and I hope the shitslide next year is at least bearable


[02-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Do people remember how Biden acted during the Obama era, he really isn't senile, he's just really weird.


[02-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Asking Brazilians to help Iowans doesn't really count as colluding, does it? In the end, it's just policy that helps Americans.


[02-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president should not ask for any help from any foreign power in any way that involves re-election.


[02-Aug-20 06:05 AM] byte[]#2610
If you ask a political favor from a foreign nation to help your reelection, that's hella illegal


[02-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president shouldn't even give non-democratic leaders the time of day.


[02-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
asking Ukrainians to help dig up dirt for the coming elections doesn't relly count as colluding. In the end it's just policy that helps Americans, since the sitting president is a Messiah and God's last gift to humanity before the coming apocalypse.


[02-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Treat them like the scum that they are, prevent their encroachment into the US, seize assets that they currently have


[02-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
that said though... I've heard pretty compelling arguments that this _is_ common and thus acceptable simply by virtue of common use. The strong demanding tribute from the weak, that sort of thing.


[02-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it's scummy but it's also true in many different areas, so could be this one too.


[02-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Foreign powers that are the enemies of the US straight up should not be able to use the US for anything.


[02-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
yeh, well, ```non-democratic leaders``` isn't really the same as ```Foreign powers that are the enemies of the US```


[02-Aug-20 06:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, but "help these Americans, I need them to get reelected" is still also just fulfilling a campaign promises to constituents, isn't it?
Not defending it, but this just sounds like constituent-pandering, since trade deals were already a campaign issue for him.


[02-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
and even China isn't qualified as an enemy afaik.


[02-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The president shouldn't ask any foreign national or nation for help with re-election, period.


[02-Aug-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Can he ask for trade deals?


[02-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He really shouldn't.


[02-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
you still get demands like 'do X or our money are best spent elsewhere'.


[02-Aug-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Trade deals are his main political issue.


[02-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
and with money legally being speech... :twismug:


[02-Aug-20 06:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's been his goal to snatch trade deals for farmers, especially since the tarrifs with China.


[02-Aug-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
He's done such a great job of that hasn't he


[02-Aug-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not really


[02-Aug-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's why he's asking the Brazilians for it.


[02-Aug-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Retaliatory tariffs resulted in massive farm bailouts that cost taxpayers billions and provided no tangible benefit for _anyone_


[02-Aug-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
"Art of the deal," my ass


[02-Aug-20 06:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah.
Those farmers need all the help they can get at this point. Hopefully (for Iowa) the Brazilians will deliver.


[02-Aug-20 06:13 AM] byte[]#2610
Brazilians won't buy unless the government coerces them to


[02-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
to easily make it seem like you got things better, first you have to make them worse :wheeze:


[02-Aug-20 06:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lol


[02-Aug-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
They have plenty of domestic sugarcane for ethanol production and it is substantially cheaper than using corn for it


[02-Aug-20 06:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, I can't imagine why they'd buy American corn unless it were to get brownie points from American diplomats.
Which I guess is the point of the meeting.


[02-Aug-20 06:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Basically just a political favor.


[02-Aug-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
Yep


[02-Aug-20 06:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
Well, a favor that helps Iowans still helps Iowans. I just wonder if that ethanol deal will actually help anyone, or if it's just a stunt.


[02-Aug-20 06:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
If it helps farmers, good for them.


[02-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
it depends on the 'or else'. What did US promise in return or threaten with?


[02-Aug-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
I think you misunderstand how these deals work


[02-Aug-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
The farm conglomerate gets a blowjob and the CEO gets a bonus


[02-Aug-20 06:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Everyone else gets told to go fuck themselves, since the farmhands are all illegal immigrants anyway


[02-Aug-20 06:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[02-Aug-20 06:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Illegal immigrants don't vote though... There has to be some demographic he's targetting here.


[02-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
CEO's :twismug:


[02-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what Democrats are primarily banking on. That and immigrants.


[02-Aug-20 06:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't there there was any "or else". It's just likely that the Brazilian diplomats understood that their jobs would be easier if the POTUS were pleased with them.


[02-Aug-20 06:22 AM] byte[]#2610
almost every single one of our massive taxpayer bailouts have basically gone straight to those at the top, so it wouldn't be a surprise to me to see the cycle repeat itself yet again


[02-Aug-20 06:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's how it always is.


[02-Aug-20 06:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck bailouts. Corporate welfare.


[02-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
corporations are people, but better, because they vote with their money, not their stupid votes :derpchrys:


[02-Aug-20 07:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget that most of the arguments saying "favors are fine and we do them all the time" were championed by the likes of Giuliani, Mulvaney, and Dershowitz


[02-Aug-20 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and were thoroughly disparaged by constitutional and legal scholars, federal judges, and pretty much anyone with a law degree who wasn't benefitting from Trump's grift


[02-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that's kind of the reality of US politics


[02-Aug-20 08:24 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:shrugpony: 🚀 🏥


[02-Aug-20 10:07 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[02-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
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Really American
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2fMegj_RUU
She Got It Right
Rep. Jayapal was on fire, and absolutely destroyed Bill Barr. 
#SheGotItRight
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[02-Aug-20 10:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
@Smug Trixie where from this footage is?


[02-Aug-20 10:41 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
my best guess its hong kong


[02-Aug-20 10:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/-QfslOvfFJU?t=93

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Brazil Boiling: Video of brutal clashes as country gripped by protests
Violent clashes have erupted in the northern city of Fortaleza in the hours leading to a Confederations Cup match with Mexico. Dozens were hurt as riot police unleashed tear gas and barrage of rubber bullets at a crowd of some 30,000 Brazilian protesters. Protests and clashes ...
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[02-Aug-20 10:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Stoopedhooy


[02-Aug-20 10:48 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Thanks


[02-Aug-20 12:04 PM] Synfag#9241
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[02-Aug-20 12:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
tfw have no idea what teektook is


[02-Aug-20 12:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
don't they just sing stupid songs there


[02-Aug-20 12:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
no,its just memes and funny vids in general


[02-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
no fun allowed in usa? :twismug:


[02-Aug-20 12:22 PM] wren#0114
no ccp allowed


[02-Aug-20 12:22 PM] wren#0114
🙅


[02-Aug-20 12:28 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
cropped child porn?


[02-Aug-20 12:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok mr Epstein


[02-Aug-20 12:28 PM] wren#0114
chinese communist propoganda


[02-Aug-20 12:29 PM] wren#0114
(but mostly the actual spyware and the gaping malware vectors)


[02-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Then why Derpibooru is still up?


[02-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugset:


[02-Aug-20 12:29 PM] wren#0114
because so is too many pp


[02-Aug-20 12:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
because ponybooru havent archived every art yet


[02-Aug-20 12:30 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
there is never too much pps :nut: 🍆


[02-Aug-20 12:31 PM] wren#0114
post post scriptums are kino (edit 1: thanks for the likes!!!) (edit 2: OMG I didn't think this would blow up!?!!)


[02-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
edit 3:plz join my channel subscribe and leave likes

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[02-Aug-20 01:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-publicly-criticized-fauci-calling-his-testimony-wrong-2020-8

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Trump publicly criticized Fauci again and called his congressional ...
Fauci testified on Friday that the US had shut down only about 50% of the country, compared to a 95% shutdown in Europe. Trump wasn't happy.
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[02-Aug-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e1c7fb1ed090aef3be8d4784878284be

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GOP: Renomination of Trump to be held in private
WASHINGTON (AP) — The vote to renominate President Donald Trump is set to be conducted in private later this month, without members of the press present, a spokeswoman for the Republican National...
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[02-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Phelan#7647
Tiktok is a site that's only kids and pedos


[02-Aug-20 02:46 PM] wren#0114
so like discord

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[02-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Phelan#7647
Yes


[02-Aug-20 02:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-protest-mostly-peaceful-state-local-officers-replace-federal-agents

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Federal agents were to begin withdrawing from the city under a deal reached with Oregon Governor Kate Brown.
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[02-Aug-20 03:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But but but muh blm are rioters narrative! How do i justify kidnaping vans now?"


[02-Aug-20 03:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/without-bailout-childcare-industry-women-will-drop-out-of-workforce-2020-7

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If the Senate doesn't bail out the childcare industry, economists s...
Women are more likely than men to scale back their hours or prioritize flexibility, which would widen the wage gap and weaken the economic recovery.
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[02-Aug-20 04:06 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[02-Aug-20 04:07 PM] wren#0114
then gadsen flag bro gets vanned


[02-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The blm person should be armed


[02-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So should the antifa person


[02-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Prevent assholes cops from harming you


[02-Aug-20 04:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is not how it works unless you are a white supremacist


[02-Aug-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/kg7dmeszaje51.png

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[02-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
right cause cops would be scared of antifa and blm and instead of shooting them would bow before em and take a knee


[02-Aug-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
p much


[02-Aug-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/02/898165324/americans-go-home-canadians-track-u-s-boaters-sneaking-across-the-border

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Americans, Go Home: Canadians Track U.S. Boaters Sneaking Across Th...
U.S. pleasure boats have been sneaking into Canada despite a border shutdown. A group of Canadian retirees is on the lookout for violators from the "petri dish" that is America.
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[02-Aug-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theonion.com/officials-warn-defunding-police-could-lead-to-spike-in-1844149047

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Officials Warn Defunding Police Could Lead To Spike In Crime From E...
LOS ANGELES—Insisting their department provided crucial services that help maintain order in the city, law enforcement officials warned Wednesday that defunding the police could lead to a spike in crime from ex-officers with no outlet for their violence. “The truth is that the...
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[02-Aug-20 05:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Nailed it


[02-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
the onion


[02-Aug-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Uhhhhhhh https://twitter.com/CleverIsHere/status/1289672107425595393

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[02-Aug-20 06:13 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Fell for the trap. :wheeze:


[02-Aug-20 06:14 PM] PwnyPony#6185
that's some nice ass upskirt though:nut:

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[02-Aug-20 06:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the face of the cosplayer with the green mask. *they know*


[02-Aug-20 06:21 PM] byte[]#2610
🇵🇱


[02-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie or you know cops wouldn't shoot them or gas them for protesting or useing there 2a rights


[02-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Right


[02-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Cause cops are pigs and shoot peaceful protesters just for fun

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[02-Aug-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
They do, actually, unless you hadn't noticed


[02-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It's not like they starting fires or damage property


[02-Aug-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
It's not like they're killing people in the streets or anything right?


[02-Aug-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
where do you get these ideas that 1. destruction of property = literally worse than racist murders and systemic abuse of power 2. looters and arsonists are not opportunists and are completely aligned with the goals of most protestors


[02-Aug-20 06:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/QFeewU0HhNE

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CBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeewU0HhNE
Video at Buffalo protest shows police pushing 75-year-old man
Warning: This video contains graphic content. Two officers in Buffalo have been suspended without pay after video circulated online of riot police appearing to push a 75-year-old man during a protest against the death of George Floyd.
»»» Subscribe to CBC News to watch more v...
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[02-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/esyMFOu8ZFE

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10 Tampa Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[02-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/jBPJNohU7xE

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CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBPJNohU7xE
Video shows US police attack Australian journalists
During a live broadcast on Australian television, Channel 7 News journalists were struck by a policeman's riot shield, prompting the Australian government to ask for an investigation into the incident.

#CNN #News
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[02-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Because those people on there porch, that 75 year old man and, those reporters where clearly starting riots right? :twismug:


[02-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No, that's clearly abuse of power


[02-Aug-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
So why does it keep happening


[02-Aug-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Why are the cops who do this never held accountable for anything


[02-Aug-20 06:48 PM] jlun2#8758
how many of the 150k covid us death are boomers?


[02-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And it doesn't stop


[02-Aug-20 06:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And arming yourselves is a right in the US. You cant stop blm from arming.


[02-Aug-20 06:50 PM] jlun2#8758
> You cant stop blm from arming.
then they go the route of california & ban open carry :bigbrain:


[02-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Not trying to but that wouldn't end well,lots of people been brainwashed on both sides,it might end up in civil war


[02-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Maybe then the cops should have been reformed?


[02-Aug-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
why is it that when a black guy is seen running away from a scene of gunfire that the cops arrest him as a suspect within minutes and press charges in a day where when the cops literally shoot and kill people who are sleeping in their beds that the cops evade prosecution for their entire lives


[02-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not just talked down to for peacefully protesting by takeing a knee


[02-Aug-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
how is it that 40% of cops admit to domestic violence and departments don't think there's any problem with the mental wellness of their force


[02-Aug-20 06:53 PM] byte[]#2610
why is it that every time we try to have these discussions and you realize that maybe it actually is fucking absurd you try to back out and frame it as a two sided issue

it's really not


[02-Aug-20 06:54 PM] jlun2#8758
why are cops mostly violent white old men


[02-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Ok you got good argument but Trump would never agree to reform police,he's man of power


[02-Aug-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
and I'm not voting for Trump in November


[02-Aug-20 07:03 PM] jlun2#8758
https://archive.is/B5zpO
i feel like abortion is a massive distraction given they're also anti-mask & anti child care
how is pro life but willing to let people die for the line compatible


[02-Aug-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
er


[02-Aug-20 07:04 PM] jlun2#8758
no preview on paywall less link :ts_cry:


[02-Aug-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-testing-czar-we-need-to-move-on-from-hydroxychloroquine-2020-8

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White House coronavirus testing czar says it's time to 'move on' fr...
"The evidence just doesn't show that hydroxychloroquine is effective, for now," Brett P. Giroir said despite the drug being touted by President Trump.
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[02-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
@Smug Trixie https://twitter.com/RobTheKing5/status/1288039367685021696

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RobTheKing (@RobTheKing5)
https://twitter.com/RobTheKing5/status/1288039367685021696
For any leftist who is still anti gun

here’s the pigs literally saying they didn’t assault us cause they knew we were carrying https://t.co/3hUDbslgVA
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[02-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/LizardbethArt/status/1288251820528238592

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🍊Lizardbeth🍊 (@LizardbethArt)
https://twitter.com/LizardbethArt/status/1288251820528238592
@RobTheKing5 Do they realize that they just admitted that they make the conscious choice to be MORE violent when they know the crowd is unarmed and not dangerous?
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[02-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/510200-gop-rep-democratic-party-used-to-be-more-moderate

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GOP lawmaker: Democratic Party 'used to be more moderate'
New Jersey Rep. Jeff Van Drew (R) said Sunday the Democratic Party of which he used to be a member "used to be more moderate" but its views have trended toward the extreme in recent years.
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[02-Aug-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, good old projection


[02-Aug-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
GOP
gaslight obstruct project


[02-Aug-20 08:56 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/JEu4eZS.gif

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Fuck Nepotism
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[02-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Both parties were once more moderate


[02-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People didn't like that.


[02-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Both parties realize that you don't win an election without your far right/left wing now


[02-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just ask Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, and Clinton


[02-Aug-20 09:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, both parties were more moderate. They've only gotten more polarized.


[02-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Both parties were more moderate but I'd say that's *not* necessarily a good thing, since "moderate" meant "not pushing too hard on civil rights issues."

The Democrats were about as anti-gay rights as the Republicans in the 90s, which at the time was considered a "moderate" position.


[02-Aug-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
they had "orthodox privilege"


[02-Aug-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
http://paulgraham.com/orth.html


[02-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd counter that not all privilege is bad or illicit.

At its most extreme, "orthodox privilege" could just mean that non-racists get taken more seriously in public discourse than racists do, which is... good?


[02-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, not all opinions and viewpoints are equal or worthy of respect. I think it's perfectly fine and just that some people are dismissed out of hand for their views if their views are horrible.


[02-Aug-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510206-trump-calls-death-penalty-for-boston-marathon-bomber-after-appeals

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Trump calls death penalty for Boston Marathon bomber after appeals ...
President Trump on Sunday called for the death penalty for the Boston Marathon bomber, just days after an appeals court overturned the death sentence.
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[02-Aug-20 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
looks like the hill finally brought back voting for comments


[02-Aug-20 11:10 PM] byte[]#2610
fascist


[03-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53525440

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Are US cities seeing a surge in violent crime?
President Trump sends federal agents to some US cities to tackle crime, but is there really a spike?
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[03-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Marukomuru#8409
How does one call for a death penalty when it was already overturned? Is he just gonna execute them himself? :wat:


[03-Aug-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't matter


[03-Aug-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
he's continuously undermining the legal process to win political brownie points no matter who it might adversely effect in the future


[03-Aug-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
if the criminal court says no, then that's that, and you trying to bias the process could literally lead to the person walking free on later charges due to mistrials


[03-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...huh.


[03-Aug-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/L30_hfuZoQ8

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Shaun
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The Death Penalty feat. PragerU
Sequelae?

Content warning: violence, sexual assault

PragerU video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dnVZibrV6g
Peterson & Rubin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJJClhqGq_M

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-leave-voters-death-penalty-yougov-results-...
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[03-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/PhoenixPolice/status/1288532794033885184
https://breaking911.com/breaking-banned-ex-volunteer-arrested-for-democratic-party-office-fire-in-phoenix/

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ARREST MADE: 29-year-old Matthew Egler has been arrested in connection with the fire set to the Democratic Party Headquarters. The fire happened after midnight on Friday, July 24 near Central and Thomas in Downtown Phoenix. The fire caused substantial damage to the building. ...
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Banned Ex-Volunteer Arrested For Democratic Party Office Fire In Ph...
The Phoenix Police Department has​ arrested a man in connection with a fire at the Maricopa County Democratic Party office building. Matthew Egler was arrested Wednesday morning on arson charges. The 29-year-old was a former volunteer at the office but had recently been banned...
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[03-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Synfag#9241
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[03-Aug-20 01:53 AM] jlun2#8758
ew


[03-Aug-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least it sounds like no one was actually injured or killed in the fire, so that's good


[03-Aug-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/510212-controversial-trump-nominee-placed-in-senior-role-after-nomination-hearing

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Controversial Trump nominee placed in senior role after nomination ...
A controversial White House nominee has been placed in a senior role at the Pentagon after his confirmation hearing was canceled last week, according to a Pentagon spokesperson.
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[03-Aug-20 03:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
`if the criminal court says no, then that's that, and you trying to bias the process could literally lead to the person walking free on later charges due to mistrials`
That guy would get butchered the moment he left prison.


[03-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Prager-U is a joke


[03-Aug-20 03:11 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1289912388578193415?s=21

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https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1289912388578193415?s=21
How should Trump end?

Have an extraordinarily long life of:
-Sentence of life plus 1,000 years (eligible for parole in 800)
-Cellmate Pence reading the Bible at him every damned day
-No internet & of course
-No Twitter
-Only 1 hr of TV daily: MSNBC tuned to Maddow
#TrumpIsLo...
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[03-Aug-20 03:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nothing can stop Trump from tweeting.
He'll tweet from beyond the grave.


[03-Aug-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has twitter telepathy


[03-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/kungfuman316/status/1290042235900354562?s=21

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https://twitter.com/kungfuman316/status/1290042235900354562?s=21
...someone legit thought this was a good idea.
And yes, it is real.
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[03-Aug-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
oof


[03-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDXbyl9phPq/

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[03-Aug-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
fair enough


[03-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Crow#5457
:chickun:


[03-Aug-20 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Let's be honest, no one has ever looked at a KFC ad and thought, "yes, this is a good marketing team" https://assets.entrepreneur.com/images/misc/1516983799_reba-mcentire-kfc-colonel-sanders-2.jpg

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[03-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I mean


[03-Aug-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chicken scented sunblock

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[03-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
The Smokey Mountain BBQ Chicken strips are bloody delicious though


[03-Aug-20 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, can *anyone* explain to me how a guy whose nomination hearing was cancelled because they didn't know enough about the guy to make a decision...defaults to getting the job at the pentagon anyway?

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[03-Aug-20 05:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
logic flew out the window 3 years ago


[03-Aug-20 05:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's how


[03-Aug-20 05:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Either the window on how long an acting position can be held is way too long, or the requirements to fill the cabinet with appointments confirmed by congress are way too low


[03-Aug-20 05:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The better question is whether things are about to hit a legal snag with this move


[03-Aug-20 05:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing has snagged the president legally since Barr was appointed AG


[03-Aug-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[03-Aug-20 05:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[03-Aug-20 05:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So far as I can tell, of those who have been greasing the wheels for the president, including Moscow Mitch and personal buttmonkey Giuliani, it was Barr who actually bridged the gap between the GOP's consolidation of power over the last couple decades with the full-blown fascism that defines the administration now


[03-Aug-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
barr has pretty much been the guy they call in whenever they need corruption sewn for decades all the way back to oliver north


[03-Aug-20 05:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[03-Aug-20 05:23 AM] RYDE#8862
Can I just be neutral?


[03-Aug-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
no grilling allowed


[03-Aug-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
🍔


[03-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
Bureau of Loli Management


[03-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
literal libertarian wet dream


[03-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-20 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"I just wanna grill" is, to me, almost as wrong a response to BLM as "all lives matter." I don't think this is an issue you can be neutral on. Even if you don't want to be an activist, that's fine, but you can't sit on the fence


[03-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/afghans-draw-strength-tale-teen-girl-battling-taliban-n1234601

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Tale of teen girl battling the Taliban takes hold in Afghanistan
“When I heard about her bravery, I just felt proud of her, that we have powerful women like her,” one Kabul resident said.
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[03-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason for the riots is that a blakk man can't grill in peace without some white Karen calling the police to shoot him, and often the police *do*.

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[03-Aug-20 07:33 AM] jlun2#8758
after trump's kodak drug announcement

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[03-Aug-20 07:33 AM] jlun2#8758
missed opportunity rip @Rainboom Dash


[03-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Opponent#3498
this sort of thing requires inside sources.


[03-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
the announcement was july 29


[03-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
all of that activity on the 28th was from insider trading

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[03-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Crow#5457
apparently there was actually an announcement on monday


[03-Aug-20 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-20 09:01 AM] Crow#5457
the massive brain on this lad


[03-Aug-20 09:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
nice.

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[03-Aug-20 09:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
one in 69

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[03-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
nice


[03-Aug-20 09:37 AM] Synfag#9241
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[03-Aug-20 09:48 AM] Opponent#3498
aka a normie's first visit to the *chan


[03-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Marukomuru#8409
...so trap isn't a slur anymore? :twismug:


[03-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Phelan#7647
It never was


[03-Aug-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tarp


[03-Aug-20 05:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[03-Aug-20 05:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.thedailybeast.com/right-wing-media-outlets-duped-by-a-middle-east-propaganda-campaign

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Right-Wing Media Outlets Duped by a Middle East Propaganda Campaign
Conservative sites like Newsmax and Washington Examiner have published Middle East hot takes from “experts” who are actually fake personas pushing propaganda.
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[03-Aug-20 05:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510246-trump-criticizes-birx-over-pelosi-covid-19-remarks-pathetic

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Trump criticizes Birx over Pelosi, COVID-19 remarks: 'Pathetic'
President Trump on Monday publicly criticized Deborah Birx, the doctor who is coordinating the White House’s coronavirus response, suggesting she was hurting him after she bluntly acknowledged that the pandemic is widespread across the United Stat
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[03-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N24kBGg5twg

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Anti-mask rallies held across Canada as COVID-19 cases begin to rise
Some groups are calling COVID-19 a "scamdemic" as nearly 9,000 die from the virus in Canada. Associate professor Maya Goldenberg explains.

Subscribe to CTV News to watch more videos: https://www.youtube.com/ctvnews

Connect with CTV News:
For the latest news visit: http://...
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[03-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The retards have arrived


[03-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/03/republican-leadership-battle-trump-389789

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Republicans prep for leadership battle if Trump goes down
Trump loyalists and establishment-aligned conservatives in the House are already jockeying ahead of November.
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[03-Aug-20 09:12 PM] jlun2#8758
> The makeup of the GOP conference has grown more conservative in recent years and a smaller House GOP with fewer moderates could be even more Trumpy after November, regardless of whether the president sticks around another four years. 
oh boy


[03-Aug-20 09:16 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-trump-to-take-action-against-chinese-software-companies-in-coming/

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As Microsoft seeks to buy TikTok’s U.S. business before Sept. 15, prominent Chinese investors and social media users resist
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[03-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
We're getting rid of Tik Tok


[03-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
And we won't bring it back until we make sure we're the only ones spying on you!

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[03-Aug-20 09:19 PM] byte[]#2610
paywall article


[03-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/microsoft-in-talks-to-acquire-tiktok-after-trump-ultimatum/

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Trump administration gives TikTok 45 days to sell to Microsoft or l...
Short-form video platform beloved by teens seen as a national security threat.
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[03-Aug-20 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
or he's going to nuke China, most likely.


[03-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Microsoft usually messes up the stuff they acquire


[03-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
45 days from now, China gives TikTok 45 days ultimatum to get bought by Tencent or leave China

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[03-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
Isn't that every start-up dream though? get bought by a major player for millions and retire in some island


[03-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
TicToc isn't some random startup though.


[03-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
they're already huge.


[03-Aug-20 09:30 PM] byte[]#2610
helps when you're funded by the chinese government


[03-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.revealnews.org/topic/all-work-no-pay/

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All Work. No Pay. Archives | Reveal


[03-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/03/politics/trump-new-york-vance-investigation/index.html

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Manhattan prosecutors on Monday asked a federal judge to dismiss President Donald Trump's lawsuit challenging a subpoena for his financial records, emphasizing that their investigation extends beyond hush-money payments and pointing to public reports of "extensive and protract...
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[03-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.revealnews.org/article/they-worked-in-sweltering-heat-for-exxon-shell-and-walmart-they-didnt-get-paid-a-dime/

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They worked in sweltering heat for Exxon, Shell and Walmart. They d...
“I can’t fathom this being legitimate,” one former Labor Department investigator says of a drug rehab’s work program.
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[03-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Crow#5457
one of the articles from the series


[03-Aug-20 09:38 PM] byte[]#2610
hmm if only there were laws against that or something


[03-Aug-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-explodes-after-nevada-approves-automatically-sending-all-voters-mail-in-ballots

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President Donald Trump swore on Monday morning to dismantle Nevada’s move to automatically send registered voters mail-in ballots for the...
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[03-Aug-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
> Trump claimed that the measure... will make it impossible for Republicans to win the state.
He said the quiet part out loud again


[03-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They're not even pretending at this point that it's about voter fraud.


[03-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone knows it's not about voter fraud, so not much point.


[03-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
They think they can win just loudly declaring their corrupt intent, and the sad part is they're not all that wrong.


[03-Aug-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
@jlun2 https://news.osu.edu/baby-boomers-show-concerning-decline-in-cognitive-functioning/

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Baby boomers show concerning decline in cognitive functioning
In a reversal of trends, American baby boomers scored lower on a test of cognitive functioning than did members of previous generations, according to a new nationwide study.

Findings showed that average cognition scores of adults aged 50 and older increased from generation to...
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[03-Aug-20 10:45 PM] wren#0114
ree

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[03-Aug-20 10:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll get it on my school account


[03-Aug-20 10:51 PM] byte[]#2610

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[03-Aug-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
garbage


[03-Aug-20 10:59 PM] wren#0114
what are these

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[03-Aug-20 11:01 PM] jlun2#8758
@byte[]  I know; my family is like that & we end up yelling at each other every night :ts_cry:


[03-Aug-20 11:02 PM] byte[]#2610
you never talk about your family :ponythinking:


[03-Aug-20 11:03 PM] wren#0114
I don't see where they say what the tests are exactly


[03-Aug-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
im positive in 4 decades ill get alzheimers


[03-Aug-20 11:04 PM] wren#0114
also, how is this significant to the point where half of the paper is spent investigating the cause

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[03-Aug-20 11:08 PM] jimm#1439
Joe Biden's America

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[03-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are broken clokks, melt them down into something useful?


[03-Aug-20 11:10 PM] wren#0114
then they're right twice a day


[03-Aug-20 11:10 PM] wren#0114
~~unlike democrats~~ :dab:


[03-Aug-20 11:13 PM] wren#0114
unless we're talking digital clocks


[03-Aug-20 11:32 PM] jimm#1439
there's a meme that joe biden would fail the dementia clock drawing test


[03-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-hogan-overrides-montgomery-county-decision-to-close-private-schools-2020-8

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The Maryland county where Barron Trump attends school ordered priva...
In rejecting the Montgomery County order, Gov. Larry Hogan said it was "overly broad and inconsistent with the powers" of the county health officer.
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[03-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
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[03-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Crow#5457
when you're so wrong you're right


[03-Aug-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Dank left


[03-Aug-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[04-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Petition to rename Joe Biden to Satan, Donald Trump to Greater Satan.


[04-Aug-20 12:08 AM] byte[]#2610
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-excited-to-find-out-who-he-picked-for-vp

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WASHINGTON, D.C.—According to sources in the Biden campaign, the presidential candidate is on pins and needles waiting to see who it is he picked to run for vice president on his ticket.Campaign aides say it's been Biden's most anticipated event since he found out he was runni...
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[04-Aug-20 12:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's funny because his staff is probably picking for him.


[04-Aug-20 12:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/510354-trump-signs-order-expanding-use-of-virtual-doctors

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Trump signs order expanding use of virtual doctors
President Trump on Monday signed an executive order seeking to expand the use of virtual doctors visits, as his administration looks to highlight achievements in health care.
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[04-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Gonna use the Jesus power of Immanuel to heal the sick


[04-Aug-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/510362-house-republicans-introduce-legislation-to-give-states-400-million-for

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House Republicans introduce legislation to give states $400 million...
A group of House Republicans on Monday introduced legislation that would appropriate $400 million to states to address election challenges stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic.
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[04-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Crow#5457
seems like a grifting ploy coming from them, considering how trump literally fired the guy who was supposed to oversee how the bailout money was being used


[04-Aug-20 01:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm noticing that none of this has any impact whatsoever on whether polling places will be *open* or not

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[04-Aug-20 01:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Note that their main goal here is to push this through the senate *instead* of the Heroes Act


[04-Aug-20 01:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you want to know what Republicans don't want to let happen, just look at the "ton of mandates" present in that bill that are conspicuously absent from the Republican version


[04-Aug-20 02:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(which, upon persual myself, is revealing just how audacious this thing is because the HEROES act is a holistic relief package across pretty much everything the government touches related to COVID-19, and the Republican bill is specifically focused on the election)


[04-Aug-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's a LOT different here but the big goofus and gallant moment is: Democrats want to extend financial relief to USPS through at least September and relax ID requirements to allow a sworn written statement to serve that requirement in states with a voter ID law for mail-in votes. The Republican bill is all about VOTER FRAUD and would compel states to clean their voter rolls and would ban ballot harvesting (that is, the door-to-door collection of ballots).


[04-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSwqp5fdIw

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The terror on George Floyd's face as a rookie cop points a gun at his head while he sits in his car can be seen today for the first time. DailyMail.com has exclusively obtained video from the bodycams of officers Thomas Lane and Alex Kueng, who were part of Floyd's fatal arres...
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[04-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just a heads up that comment section has misinformation in it https://youtu.be/xRoqSyIi-98

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George Floyd Toxicology Report: Explained
George Floyd's toxicology report that was released with autopsy from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office was released week of June 1, 2020. Nothing in it absolves those officers, and the report confirms what we saw happen on camera.
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[04-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and it doesn't justfy him being choked to death


[04-Aug-20 02:44 AM] Crow#5457
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[04-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why does the guy have a magic wand vibrator badge


[04-Aug-20 02:45 AM] byte[]#2610
left wing status: destroyed


[04-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"The tapes show in minute detail how Floyd begs 'Mr. Officer, please don't shoot me. Please man,' before the struggle that ended with his death"


[04-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
what the fuck


[04-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk dude, he _did_ have a criminal record, and was caught being black inside a vehicle


[04-Aug-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not a badge, it's the way reddit indicates that the user is the OP


[04-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
oh


[04-Aug-20 02:47 AM] byte[]#2610
the user isn't flaired and the post doesn't have any awards


[04-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Synfag The video you posted changes nothing, he was chocked and murdred by cops.


[04-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it adds a bit mroe to the start of the encounter, so it's at least more information


[04-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
let;s just start this encounter with a gun and then wonder why he's terrified for his goddamned life!


[04-Aug-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
eggshell skull rule


[04-Aug-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
if your actions lead to someone's injury or death and they had a preexisting condition that exacerbated it, you are still responsible for it


[04-Aug-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
> the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them.


[04-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh god there is a flood of people in the chubbyemo comments section


[04-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There going to use this to prop up a cops did nothing wrong no reform needed narrative


[04-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Sounds like fun to debate against


[04-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just more anti sjw wankery


[04-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Crow#5457
found the post, it's real https://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/comments/i2uj6n/the_usa_isnt_by_any_means_perfect_but/

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r/libertarianmeme - The USA isn't by any means perfect but...
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[04-Aug-20 02:57 AM] illumnious#7938
bruhhhhh

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[04-Aug-20 02:59 AM] illumnious#7938
Some nigga pledge to support this dumb fuck


[04-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Synfag#9241

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[04-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Honahue#0656
I had a lesbian friend with a blue hat saying Make America Gay Again


[04-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jassherri/status/1290065846979575808

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[04-Aug-20 03:41 AM] jlun2#8758
@Honahue tbh shouldve made the hat red like ^


[04-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Synfag#9241
https://youtu.be/KzwfTXf-dAE

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[04-Aug-20 04:02 AM] JC Denton#7076
>high iq

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[04-Aug-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quick! Repeal it with the power of Big Keanu Chungus!


[04-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Reddit should start their own country. Think about it: it would have a much higher IQ than most other countries. We could ban tik tok and fortnite, and every computer sold has to come with Minecraft preinstalled. We could also ban emojis too.

We all have very good ideas about society and government, so I think we would be far more efficient. I've seen so many posts with so many good ideas, not to mention our country would be the most progressive and other countries would look to us for direction. We would easily become the next superpower. If everyone left America for a new country, we would easily surpass America.

We could make Keanu our president and have PewDiePie on the flag. It would be the most wholesome country too!

Those are just some ideas I have and my own opinion.`


[04-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Crow#5457
> Reddit should start their own country. Think about it: it would have a much higher IQ than most other countries. We could ban tik tok and fortnite, and every computer sold has to come with Minecraft preinstalled. We could also ban emojis too.
> 
> We all have very good ideas about society and government, so I think we would be far more efficient. I've seen so many posts with so many good ideas, not to mention our country would be the most progressive and other countries would look to us for direction. We would easily become the next superpower. If everyone left America for a new country, we would easily surpass America.
> 
> We could make Keanu our president and have PewDiePie on the flag. It would be the most wholesome country too!
> 
> Those are just some ideas I have and my own opinion.

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[04-Aug-20 04:31 AM] jlun2#8758
:sunskeptical:


[04-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Crow plz, there aren't legal drugs hard enough where I live to just read that and not take permanent SAN damage


[04-Aug-20 04:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
wholesome!


[04-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
[Everyone liked that]


[04-Aug-20 04:40 AM] JC Denton#7076
even big chungus?


[04-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course.


[04-Aug-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
heccin chonkers


[04-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember to vote tomorrow if you live in Arizona, Kansas, Michigan, Missouri, or Washington.


[04-Aug-20 04:50 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[04-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Synfag#9241
> New Country

they're going to need land for that


[04-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Synfag#9241
or they could do another Sealand or something


[04-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-03/blizzard-workers-share-salaries-in-revolt-over-wage-disparities

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Employees at Blizzard Entertainment, a division of Activision Blizzard Inc., began circulating a spreadsheet on Friday to anonymously share salaries and recent pay increases, the latest example of rising tension in the video game industry over wage disparities and executive co...
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[04-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Crow#5457
> One veteran Blizzard employee told Bloomberg News they received a raise of less than 50 cents an hour. They are making less now than they did almost a decade ago because they are working fewer overtime hours than they did back then. Several former Blizzard employees said they only received significant pay increases after leaving for other companies, such as nearby rival Riot Games Inc. in Los Angeles.


[04-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Honahue#0656
good for them legally companies can't keep people from discussing their pay but they do try to disinsentivise it


[04-Aug-20 06:31 AM] Synfag#9241
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487380718343815179/739864664770347088/video0.mp4

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[04-Aug-20 06:32 AM] illumnious#7938
Sounds like nigger to me


[04-Aug-20 06:33 AM] illumnious#7938
Also https://twitter.com/mistergeezy/status/1290242519565885440?s=21

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[04-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609091789344735262/740051139289939968/XEzrIym5QcL5B-bQ.mp4

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[04-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[04-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
This looks like FUD created by the police dept. itself to try to avoid getting reformed.


[04-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Opponent#3498
did I miss something or did Minneapolis relocate to UK? :wheeze:


[04-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Honahue#0656
on the positive side that BK guys appears to have been charged and fired from his job


[04-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
And spread by almost exclusively right wing news sites (and RT of course).


[04-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Honahue#0656
also fast food workers need a raise dealling with idiots like that isn't uncommon


[04-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
@Nebbie, this is what they actually said https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/police-chief-responds-after-robbery-spike-in-south-southwest-minneapolis

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Police chief responds after robbery spike in south, southwest Minne...
Medaria Arradondo says there has been an 'uptick' in crime in two of its precincts.
https://bringmethenews.com/.image/t_share/MTczMzM1MTE4OTQ4MDgzNTcx/chief-medaria-arradondo-.png


[04-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
from a local news source


[04-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
they took a single, common sense line from their guidance and inflated it into an entire article


[04-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Crow#5457
that line basically being "don't argue with the person pointing a gun at you"


[04-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Opponent#3498
actually reasonable.


[04-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally.


[04-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Crow#5457
I actually had to find that on a reddit post of someone linking one of the conspiracy theory websites circulating the far-right spin, it was in the comments in response to the questionable source


[04-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think I've argued on this point in here before.


[04-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes the guy robbing you is in the wrong morally.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That doesn't mean it's a good idea to sacrifice your life to prove that.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My God, it's money.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Crow#5457
I couldn't find it from direct google searches because of all the far-right sites circulating the sensationalized inflated talking point


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Are there really people who choose their money over their life with a gun to their face?


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Regularly.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the main argument of gun nuts.


[04-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That they should be able to get in a gunfight with the robber.


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's the belief that they *might* be able to overcome the robber and keep both.


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean if you can steel yourself and pull out your gun and shoot them good on you


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead of lose $500 and maybe get it bakk one day.


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You should be able to


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's unrealistic to expect most people to


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They believe that any limits on having a gun, thus preventing this, are unreasonable.


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't accept that the presence of guns makes these situations needlessly violent.


[04-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like seriously, things would be a lot safer in a world that operates like the cartoons.


[04-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers temporarily win, nobody dies, then eventually get caught.


[04-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
While I'm a gun-owner myself, I think the "good guy with a gun" scenario often does not work.

There was a bar shooting a while back where a guy *did* use his gun to take out the shooters... and then got shot by the cops who arrived on the scene, because they saw him holding a gun and thought he was the shooter.


[04-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, people will shoot shoplifters outside walmart.


[04-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because you know


[04-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
if you steal $15 of diapers


[04-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's totally different from being robbed on a street corner


[04-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
you've forfeited your life and must be murdered.


[04-Aug-20 07:25 AM] wren#0114
what are you talking about


[04-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
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[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People going Hammurabi Code on shoplifters


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, psychologically


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shooting someone who steals your $15 of diapers I can see


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
people are ridiculously selfish.


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But not shooting a random person running out of Wal Mart.


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in the moment will literally sacrifice their lives to protect a $1000 car.


[04-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a very common problem.


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114
if they're driving a $1000 car then they're most likely poor af and that's not replacable


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially in a very consumerist culture where being out $400 could screw your entire life.


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114
and necessary for job


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think shooting someone is necessary unles that person is posing a clear and present threat. Nonviolent theft is not that.


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but if you're dead, you're out more than just a job.


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the fundamental reasoning problem here.


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] wren#0114
ok but tell that to someone who can't feed their family


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay but that family will be even worse off if you're dead


[04-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't feed anyone while dead.


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Now they have absolutely no chance to feed them


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] wren#0114
it's reasonable to defend your life and your property


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not reasonable to sacrifice your life to defend your property.


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the problem.


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure but at some point cut your losses


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Opponent#3498
```Yeah but if you're dead, you're out more than just a job.```


[04-Aug-20 07:28 AM] wren#0114
what if I want my kid to become batman?>


[04-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877 (pinned)
I think some Americans in particular have kind of a revenge fantasy. 

This desire to incur a comparably minor injustice that gives them license for disproportionate retribution.

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[04-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh absolutely.


[04-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Opponent#3498
if you're dead you're the lucky one, the job's no longer the concern. It's only really an issue if you survive and then have to deal with the injuries.


[04-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think there's a good portion of people just waiting for the excuse to engage in justifiable homicide


[04-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's similar to the stereotype of would be murderers becoming surgeons I guess


[04-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
there's gonna be plenty of batmen when the schools open up

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[04-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Honahue#0656
no no no I don't mean shootings I mean kids being vectors for rona to their parents


[04-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Opponent#3498
> Okay but that family will be even worse off if you're dead
yeah, that's the only concerning thing here.


[04-Aug-20 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
one in 69

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[04-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nice


[04-Aug-20 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
normal country.

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[04-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
We shouldn't be having people in positions where a robbery destroys their livelihood to begin with.


[04-Aug-20 07:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
your daily reminder that one in 69 americans have covid, tho it may be one in 68 or 67 by now idk


[04-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
UBI and universal healthcare would not only protect the would-be robbery victims but also eliminate the need for most petty robbery in the first place.


[04-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Opponent#3498
@dissociativity they're mostly confined to Florida so it's fine. Build a wall and make Florida pay for it :twismug:


[04-Aug-20 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
but it's okay because it's the chinese virus and it's all china's fault america numbah one (at dying from a virus that could've easily had significantly lower cases by making people tape a napkin to their face or wear a t-shirt as a riot mask or some shit)


[04-Aug-20 07:33 AM] wren#0114
ok china


[04-Aug-20 07:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally any covering stops your droplets significantly


[04-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Treascair#7785
> I think there's a good portion of people just waiting for the excuse to engage in justifiable homicide
@Itsthinking 

I'm reminded of the religious types who are so, so hardcore into it that they legitimately say that without their flavor of Christian deity, they'd be murderers and rapists.


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
you don't deserve human rights if you refuse masks


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] wren#0114
what


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] wren#0114
to both


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] wren#0114
lmfao


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I've seen people like that. Pretty scary.


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Treascair#7785
one of them used to GM my tabletop games


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I've heard some go, "What's stopping you from being horrible if you don't believe in hell?" I just don't want to be awful?


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean american Karens (gender neutral) be shooting people over not wearing a mask


[04-Aug-20 07:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh oxygen


[04-Aug-20 07:35 AM] wren#0114
any sentence that begins with "you don't deserve human rights if" is concerning


[04-Aug-20 07:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
again, literally taping a napkin to your face is technically sufficient here, if not particularly durable.


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the worst guy I talked to just wanted duelling to come back into fashion.


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Treascair#7785
think it was Penn Jillette who said something to the effect of "okay, no god around to stop you from rape and murder, you're totally going to do it, aren't you? no! You know how much rape I want to commit? zero! Murder? zero there too!"


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
fine, you should be arrested if you deliberately put a bunch of lives in danger of permanent injury and/or death


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
>expecting this much of American religious nuts


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I  want to stress that I think many religious people are kind and loving and channel their beliefs to a positive place, but

I think the "revenge fantasy" sometimes crosses into the metaphysical. I've known people who seem *thrilled* at the idea of nonbelievers going to hell or being left behind in the rapture. Even when I used to be a Christian I found that mentality completely abhorrent.


[04-Aug-20 07:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine defending american anti-maskers as deserving human rights lmao


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That and the "God is the only thing preventing me from mass murder" people are the worst


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
American Protestants are a special kind of evil.


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Treascair#7785
> Again, the worst guy I talked to just wanted duelling to come back into fashion.
@Itsthinking 

... I'd kinda pay money to see AOC take on Mitch McConnell with some of those old American Gladiator pugilist sticks, though.  That'd be fun.


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Honahue#0656
plague doctor mask the hot fall/winter accessory this year


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was specifically a protestant! A baptist even.

I believed some screwy shit for sure, but never "Hell is actually a *good* thing."


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Treascair He wanted cutting in line to be justifiable homicide.


[04-Aug-20 07:37 AM] wren#0114
> imagine defending american anti-maskers as deserving human rights lmao
@dissociativity 
imagine saying some people don't deserve human rights


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
okay horse


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
anti-maskers deserve human rights but there shouldn't be a right to endanger the whole population


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
gotteem


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] wren#0114
and I'm Protestant, wtf are you guys going on about? you're cherrypicking people I haven't ever met despite growing up very religious


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Treascair#7785
He wanted cutting in line to be justifiable homicide.
@Itsthinking 

... do you have a link to this quote? that sounds brazen, even for Turtle.


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
rephrased, noone deserves the right to endanger the whole population.


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah don't have a quote


[04-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Treascair#7785
not that I don't disbelieve it, he's a sociopath, but I'd love to have some basis.


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Real question


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
your free expression and speech ends when it puts people in harm's way


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Honahue#0656
america got into this childish mentality that freedom specifically mean no one can tell you what to do


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] wren#0114
> your free expression and speech ends when it puts people in harm's way
@dissociativity 
No.


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At what point does it stop being just being an inconsiderate ass when you're sick and start being bioterrorism?


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Treascair#7785
Typhoid Mary


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
aight, I guess we aught to genocide white people then for realzies this time


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, Protestantism is super broad and comprises a ton of denominations. 

I think it's fine to critique the beliefs all day long but I don't want to generalize the followers.


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bioterrorism has to be intentional, negligence doesn't count.


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Negligence is still bad, but it's not terrorism.


[04-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Treascair#7785
when you're knowingly infecting people is actual bioterrism


[04-Aug-20 07:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
after all I'm simply expressing my free speech and expression through white genocide


[04-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Treascair#7785
be no different than going into a crowded place knowing you have ebola


[04-Aug-20 07:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
also when I yell fire in a crowded building, that's sure to be a great expression of my freedom


[04-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Honahue#0656
Calvinism is the specific branch of protestanism that believes in prosperity gospel, ie if you're rich god loves you, and predestination, ie only some are going to heaven and it's already been decided who


[04-Aug-20 07:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
freedom is absolute after all, if I cannot behave like a petulant child and put others in danger am I really free?


[04-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I love how proponents of the "white genocide" theory ignore that interracial reproduction would also be "genociding" all the other races too.

It just means the racial lines would blur a lot more, it's not anywhere near so dramatic as "all the white people are going to be literally *killed*"


[04-Aug-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
Free Speech is a fundamental human right.


[04-Aug-20 07:41 AM] wren#0114
try and take it from me


[04-Aug-20 07:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
freedom of consequences for your speech is not freedom of speech


[04-Aug-20 07:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
people have the right to call you an absolute dickhead and shame you til you're a social paraiah


[04-Aug-20 07:42 AM] wren#0114
you're not even American right?


[04-Aug-20 07:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
and ban you from speaking in public events by using their free speech to protest against your harmful views


[04-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm American. You (mostly) have free speech in America, though there have been recent incidents like feds breaking up peaceful protests of course.


[04-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Freedom of speech doesn't exist if people aren't allowed to react to what you say.


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*That's* a true breach of free speech; being chased out of a lawful public assembly.


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] wren#0114
Freedom of speech requires access to distribution of speech


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Treascair#7785
I tend towards 'Good is Not Nice' as a habit.  If you're actively being a threat to public safety, don't be surprised when someone whacks you with a baseball bat.  I recently went to pick my husband up from the airport and I saw an entire family of a dad and five kids, all old enough to wear masks... not a single one in sight.


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
refusal to hand you the microphone is free expression


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can yell as loud as you want in an empty room with your genocidal views


[04-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You are not owed a platform. Nobody is.


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If a platform rejects your message, find one that accepts it. Or make your own.


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Honahue#0656
people complaining about freespeech being impinged always seem to end up with a cable news deal if they some how fuck that up there's still AM radio


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Treascair#7785
something something blackjack and hookers


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You have the freedom to do that in this country.


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
muh freedoms to be a total sociopath


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] wren#0114
not owed a platform no, but denied access to basic amenities required to even make platforms, that's a problem


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How?


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
learn to code nerd


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Treascair#7785
I can sooooooorta see wren's logic


[04-Aug-20 07:44 AM] wren#0114
I've seen people banned of off twitter for mundane conservative posts


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And Twitter is a private website, soooo


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
then  learn to code wren, make another twitter


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Treascair#7785
"No platform supports me!" "Make your own" "... with how many millions of dollars that'll take?"


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There's always Gab or Voat or something.


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] wren#0114
I've seen people try to make alternatives to twitter then, and get paypal/mastercard banned to where no financial system will allow them to transfer money


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah that's an issue


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
4chan was hosted on a shitty mac mini for years and years and coded by one dude


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] wren#0114
not talking about alt right, talking in general with conservative ideas


[04-Aug-20 07:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
learn to code.


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] wren#0114
gab got pulled plug on funding


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're not owed a big tall soapbox but when people collude to prevent you from ever buying a soapbox ever...


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] wren#0114
and cloudflare


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, then, exchange money some other way! Paypal has the right to not want to associate with viewpoints it opposes. That's just how the free market works.


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Treascair#7785
4chan was hosted on a shitty mac mini for years and years and coded by one dude
@dissociativity 

Sure, 20 years ago


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
you don't need funding, you need an internet connection and anything with a cpu and an internet connection.
you can get an old 6 core fairly fast xeon and 16gb ram for fuck all and fast internet in the US for almost nothing too


[04-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All I know is, fucking *Stormfront* exists after all these years so clearly even the most abhorrent and extreme views can survive online.


[04-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Treascair#7785
and there's the trick.  It's the free market until someone big gets their ass handed to them and then there's plenty of crying about how they're being denied a voice.  Catch-22


[04-Aug-20 07:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
go on, learn to code, make your platform, it's only costing millions if you're a leech from other's work or refuse to use open source projects that don't prohibit you from using them.


[04-Aug-20 07:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, renting servers costs far more than buying a used dell poweredge


[04-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Either find another way or express views that *apparently everyone* finds less shitty, I guess.


[04-Aug-20 07:47 AM] wren#0114
if you're here, please argue in good faith as the channel rule states. you seem to be trying to antagonize instead of debate @dissociativity


[04-Aug-20 07:48 AM] wren#0114
I haven't had a problem with social media since I dropped twitter entirely tbqh


[04-Aug-20 07:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's perfectly good faith, your ideology is individualistic, you need to lift yourself up by your bootstraps, install xubuntu or some shit on a dell poweredge for 100 bux


[04-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Paypal is a problem.


[04-Aug-20 07:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
and fork an open source microblogging platform.


[04-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It operates like a bank when it benefits it, and not like one when it doesn't.


[04-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Treascair#7785
why I got steered away from Ally, right there


[04-Aug-20 07:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
most of the work for making a platform has already been done for you by volunteers for free.


[04-Aug-20 07:49 AM] wren#0114
making new sites is good


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
if your """""conservative""""""" friends want a platform, when it's larger than like 2k users you can ask for funding


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Treascair#7785
ugh.  Work for me in the morning.  Have fun in the shouting match.  I have better things to do with my time, like sleep.


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] wren#0114
goodnight lol


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm sure if they really care $1 a month won't hurt them.


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, conservatives are all over Twitter. If they got banned, it was for breaching the TOS; And Twitter's TOS doesn't ban "conservatism."


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, arguing for lower taxes or laxer gun laws isn't against the rules.


[04-Aug-20 07:50 AM] wren#0114
they've been shadowbanning for a long time


[04-Aug-20 07:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
you could have a platform ready within a month that's perfectly good for a decent amount of users for very little cost.


[04-Aug-20 07:51 AM] wren#0114
just debating ideal immigration amounts got you shadowbanned a couple years ago, don't know the state of twitter now since I dont use it anymore


[04-Aug-20 07:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
if they want better servers they can donate.
it's not like gab used it's own tech most likely either, it was just a grift.


[04-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't know your friend but if they've been truly banned they probably said something that breaks Twitter's rules on prejudiced speech somehow.


[04-Aug-20 07:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
"The Gab Social project is based on the Mastodon project, and is licensed under the terms and conditions of AGPL-3.0. While we will be keeping this license, over time we will be keeping less and less of the original project's source code and approach."


[04-Aug-20 07:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can fork mastadon at any time and have your own easy as shit low effort site just like them.


[04-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Gab is fucking hilarious. It's a "free speech" platform that bans all pornography, which even Twitter still allows.


[04-Aug-20 07:52 AM] wren#0114
kek


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] wren#0114
I need coffee and to start work


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
mastadon is pretty efficient, you don't need a monster setup.


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
free speech except for "degeneracy" I guess


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] wren#0114
gross


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] wren#0114
I don't post lewd stuff but it's definitely free speech as long as it's legal


[04-Aug-20 07:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like the same people who are banned are the 'anti-degeneracy' side generally


[04-Aug-20 07:54 AM] wren#0114
or, the guy who runs gab is


[04-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, Tumblr's admins banned porn too but then two thirds of the userbase left


[04-Aug-20 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
though if you wanna host something on a 486 for some reason I can recommend hosting an IRC server, very easy and literally anyone with any internet connection can have as much free speech as they wish


[04-Aug-20 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
IRC is perfectly good and there is nothing preventing you from using it.


[04-Aug-20 07:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
except for zoomer and boomer brain maybe idk, there's a million good android and iOS IRC clients


[04-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. IRC servers can be as strictly or as laxly moderated as you want. You could make a totally anarchic no-rules server for free political discourse - which is the only way to truly have "free speech" in the sense you're talking about, since a TOS *by definition* regulates speech - and see how it goes.


[04-Aug-20 07:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
discord barely is more complex than IRC for most use


[04-Aug-20 07:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
like sure we have pretty profile pics, voice calls if we want it, but the whole bots thing came from IRC stuff really, and you can simply link images externally easily enough


[04-Aug-20 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
but an IRC server will run well on a dumpster dived or other side of the road toaster for anyone, platforms are not hard to host.


[04-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Crow#5457
the big advantage that discord has over IRC is retaining post history for everyone to see


[04-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Crow#5457
so you can disconnect and reconnect without losing anything


[04-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, you'd need to consciously archive important conversations.


[04-Aug-20 08:00 AM] wren#0114
If I ever ran a platform, I'd try to do the legal model of the users owning the post content, and the platform being uncurated except for hard legal issues


[04-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So no TOS other than "no crime"


[04-Aug-20 08:00 AM] wren#0114
which isn't for everyone


[04-Aug-20 08:01 AM] wren#0114
like, I get people wanting community curated content or enforced culture on sites


[04-Aug-20 08:01 AM] wren#0114
but personally I really don't like it


[04-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, there definitely are sites and chats like what you're describing - or at least *close* to it.


[04-Aug-20 08:01 AM] wren#0114
ye


[04-Aug-20 08:03 AM] wren#0114
the annoying thing is whoever tries to make a free speech site usually first attracts very extreme people who make the site look horrible, and then there's no normal people migration because of that image


[04-Aug-20 08:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
well, yeah


[04-Aug-20 08:03 AM] wren#0114
so no countering of that influence


[04-Aug-20 08:03 AM] wren#0114
which would be countered if it was a normal distribution of people


[04-Aug-20 08:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They've been (imo rightfully) chased out of every other venue, so of course they flock to unmoderated sites


[04-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I say "every other" but that's false. Twitter has some far-right cranks today who just skirt the rules as closely as they can


[04-Aug-20 08:04 AM] wren#0114
yeah, it's annoying


[04-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Opponent#3498
> If a platform rejects your message, find one that accepts it. Or make your own.
Paypal has something to say about that last one :wheeze:


[04-Aug-20 08:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd also say there's little incentive for other people to go to those sites, though.

They generally can express their ideas in common discourse already, so no need for an unproven alternative. And they'd be knee-deep in conspiracy theorists and racists who frankly aren't grounded enough in reality to have an intelligent argument with.

Not conservatives in general, I'm talking the far extremes here.


[04-Aug-20 08:07 AM] Crow#5457
it can also begin as a small group of people who all know each other and end with none of the original people who originally started the community sticking around because of all the loud extremists everywhere


[04-Aug-20 08:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So unmoderated/laxly-moderated communities tend to mostly be far-right mania with little dissent. It's just the way of things.


[04-Aug-20 08:08 AM] wren#0114
which is the problem, it's really hard to get normal people to switch from existing site types, unless those sites become extreme in censorship or content curation to where they alienate way to many. So I'm stuck with heavy left-leaning sites as the only normally used ones for now


[04-Aug-20 08:08 AM] wren#0114
tumbler an example of mass migration based on bad policy


[04-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh. As an actual heavy leftist I do not consider Twitter heavily left-leaning.


[04-Aug-20 08:09 AM] wren#0114
kek, I guess it's my bias as conservative


[04-Aug-20 08:09 AM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
It does lean left though imo


[04-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, American conservative politicians and pundits - if I may generalize *slightly* - kinda throw the terms liberal, leftist, and socialist out there as interchangeable a lot of the time.


[04-Aug-20 08:11 AM] Honahue#0656
Twitter is a platform hosted by a huge capitalist tech company, it leans towards the intrests of finacial capital which tends to be less racist but it doesn't tend left meaningfully


[04-Aug-20 08:11 AM] wren#0114
I'd love suggestions on how to start a site such that it attracts people and doesn't descend into just being conspiracy/fringe content


[04-Aug-20 08:12 AM] byte[]#2610
You can't, you _have_ to moderate


[04-Aug-20 08:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. Twitter does what makes sense financially, which is - to me - marginally encouraging. I see it as a hopeful trend that bigotry is bad for their brand enough for them to ban it, even if it is for purely financial reasons.


[04-Aug-20 08:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or at least really overt bigotry. A lot of it still gets allowed, obviously.


[04-Aug-20 08:13 AM] Opponent#3498
@wren people have successfully enforced moderation nessesity by their current policy. I don't think the project like that has any chance tbh.


[04-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. You either don't moderate at all and attract nothing but extremists, or you *do* moderate and alienate some of those extremists, possibly lots of them depending on how strict your moderation is.


[04-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There is no realistic way to have an unmoderated community that appeals to a general audience.


[04-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Opponent#3498
'you have free speech but only if you stand in this here corner with a doomsday prophet, Thanos larper and that guy with leprocy.'


[04-Aug-20 08:15 AM] wren#0114
sounds like a party


[04-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Opponent#3498
'feel free to leave once you agree with our views and sign here, here and here.'


[04-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ah, reverse speech-policing. You have to agree with us to *leave,* not to stay.


[04-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Opponent#3498
to leave the corner.


[04-Aug-20 08:16 AM] wren#0114
maybe the sell should be functionality, and the free speech policy happen over time. like instead of advertising it and attracting fringe crowd first


[04-Aug-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
ooh, gotcha, that makes more sense


[04-Aug-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean. I think springing a surprise "rules are cancelled" on the community wouldn't go over super well


[04-Aug-20 08:16 AM] wren#0114
kek


[04-Aug-20 08:16 AM] wren#0114
could you imagine


[04-Aug-20 08:17 AM] wren#0114
OOPS my dog ate the rules


[04-Aug-20 08:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I feel like that'd inspire a lack of confidence in the platform honestly.

Sudden *huge* changes in moderation policy - whether it's adding or removing rules - gives way to a lot of community instability.

Hell, we saw derpibooru tear itself apart because the mods kept going back and forth on *one* thing. Could you *imagine* the fallout from taking down *all* the rules?


[04-Aug-20 08:19 AM] wren#0114
would be glorious


[04-Aug-20 08:19 AM] wren#0114
almost worth the effort just to see that


[04-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah no I'd prefer it to be as stable as can be, and fulfill the role of a permanent archive like I originally wanted.


[04-Aug-20 08:20 AM] wren#0114
I meant more though, of having in effect very lax rules, but not megaphoning that it's as such. Like diverting attention to it being a needed service or an alternative


[04-Aug-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think rule changes are sometimes necessary, but whenever possible, try to come up with *as permanent* a TOS as you can when you start a community.


[04-Aug-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
However strict or lax it is, try to keep it relatively consistent from its inception.


[04-Aug-20 08:21 AM] wren#0114
makes sense


[04-Aug-20 08:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sometimes new rules or clearer rewording for existing rules comes up by necessity.


[04-Aug-20 08:25 AM] Crow#5457
sounds like a good april fools joke, create a random, 1-day wackadoodle ruleset


[04-Aug-20 08:25 AM] wren#0114
and then overbearingly enforce it


[04-Aug-20 08:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Rule 1: We're banning da word "the" - da most common word in da English language.


[04-Aug-20 08:26 AM] Opponent#3498
as long as you don't retroactively enforce it.


[04-Aug-20 08:28 AM] wren#0114
>retroactively delete all posts with the articles "the", "a", or "an" in them

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[04-Aug-20 08:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
perfect


[04-Aug-20 08:29 AM] wren#0114
"you're cool, don't come to my site today"


[04-Aug-20 08:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
If nebbie continues to be the admin, he can ban "ck" on april fools.

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lul 

[04-Aug-20 08:54 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUFYqyJSOgM

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Charlie Kirk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUFYqyJSOgM
Immigration SJW to Charlie Kirk: "Racism to Whites is OK"
America is NOT a racist country

And I wonder if she knows it was the Obama/BIDEN administration that was responsible for these “racist” policies? 🤔
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GUFYqyJSOgM/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Aug-20 09:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obviously this person is wrong, but I'm more annoyed at Kirk for trying to pass this off as a mainstream left viewpoint.


[04-Aug-20 09:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Anyone can cherrypick extreme dimwits and try to paint their entire opposition as being like them.


[04-Aug-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
For example, I would *never* try to imply that conservatives in general are like Charlie Kirk. That would be horrendously unfair to them.


[04-Aug-20 09:03 AM] jlun2#8758
vast majority of ppl never post anything


[04-Aug-20 09:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now, I *do* think - and this view's a little more nuanced than the woman in the video - that racism to white people does exist, but in white-majority countries it is not *systemic* the way racism against other groups is. It's still *wrong,* but it's inaccurate to think of interpersonal racism and institutional racism as holding the same severity.


[04-Aug-20 09:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course, in countries where another race is the majority, white people can experience systemic racism. A white citizen of Japan - and they do exist, just not in high numbers - *absolutely* experiences systemic racism.


[04-Aug-20 09:20 AM] wren#0114
what are some of the biggest systemic things you think we could fix next?


[04-Aug-20 09:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Fix my systemic lack of muhney plz


[04-Aug-20 09:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:sad:


[04-Aug-20 09:28 AM] Crow#5457
have you tried not being poor?


[04-Aug-20 09:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/231/652/5f0.jpg

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[04-Aug-20 09:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Good idea, thank you :twiface:👍


[04-Aug-20 09:31 AM] Crow#5457

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[04-Aug-20 09:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The justice department recognizes that while redlining is explicitly illegal, it's still a pretty major problem. Again, this is an official government list, not some op-ed with an axe to grind: https://www.justice.gov/crt/recent-accomplishments-housing-and-civil-enforcement-section

There's also a *lot* of data that demonstrates that doctors less willingly prescribe medicine to black patients, out of a belief that they're faking or exaggerating their pain or fear that they'll abuse the drugs. This is a documented phenomenon that needs to be fixed.

With *criminal* conviction, we have perhaps the clearest example of all: When you control for the type of crime, criminal history, and other mitigating factors, black defendants get much harsher sentences than white people do for the same crimes. This is particularly noticeable with drug charges, where black people are much more likely to get extended prison sentences and white people will get shorter sentences or even alternative punishments. (I say just decriminalize drugs anyway; nobody should go to jail for what they do to their *own body*) Black people are also much more likely to be stopped and frisked or pulled over. The police are not "race blind" in the way they handle supposedly random searches in jurisdictions where these policies are allowed. Black youth are also more frequently tried as adults.

And stoopedhooy I agree unironically, but for all Americans. UBI and universal healthcare, absolutely.

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Recent Accomplishments Of The Housing And Civil Enforcement Section
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[04-Aug-20 09:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, and hiring biases. Data shows that even a black-sounding name on an application - with all other factors being comparable - is enough to significantly lower chances of a callback.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes-get-more-interviews

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Minorities Who 'Whiten' Job Resumes Get More Interviews
African American and Asian job applicants who mask their race on resumes seem to have better success getting job interviews, according to research by Katherine DeCelles and colleagues.
https://d3vgmmrg377kge.cloudfront.net/Style%20Library/api/resize.aspx?imgpath=https://hbswk.wip.hbs.edu/PublishingImages/social/whiten-resumes-1280x720.jpg&w=1200&h=630


[04-Aug-20 09:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So wren, I would suggest starting with these. These are concrete, identifiable *things* that could be regulated out of prominence, if not totally out of existence. Systemic racism isn't some vague feeling of unfairness; It's measurable discrepancies in the way people of different races are treated even when you control for mitigating factors.

And *that* can be changed.


[04-Aug-20 09:39 AM] wren#0114
what are the ways to change it?


[04-Aug-20 09:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And you know, we're also pushing for policy changes that I think stand to benefit everyone; Though I think minorities are still the most affected.

Better police accountability would absolutely help white people too.


[04-Aug-20 09:39 AM] wren#0114
police accountability is a must


[04-Aug-20 09:40 AM] wren#0114
I'd be for decriminalizing drugs; I don't use them but I don't think the government should have that power


[04-Aug-20 09:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
With disparate sentencing, I mean... one way to change that is to give judges less discrepancy in how severe or light a penalty is. 

Have a hardline "If you do x, you get y" rule that the judge has no influence over, which would eliminate that element of bias.


[04-Aug-20 09:41 AM] wren#0114
I haven't looked into the bias in court sentencing and doctor prescriptions much yet. That would definitely be concerning to me.


[04-Aug-20 09:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The fact that how severely people are sentenced is largely down to how the judge is feeling that day is concerning for everyone. White people included.


[04-Aug-20 09:42 AM] wren#0114
hmm, I don't know a lot about sentencing standards


[04-Aug-20 09:42 AM] wren#0114
a simple line seems good. what is the reasoning behind sentencing ranges?


[04-Aug-20 09:42 AM] wren#0114
like, was it intended as letting there be lenience or harshness depending on the situation?


[04-Aug-20 09:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, which makes sense. But in practice, this leads to - with all other factors including past criminal history being equal - minorities getting hit with *way* harsher penalties across the board for the same charges.


[04-Aug-20 09:43 AM] wren#0114
and then there's mandatory minimums for stuff like petty drug offenses, which seems ludicrous to me


[04-Aug-20 09:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yeah, I agree. To me, prison should *only* be for violent and dangerous offenders. Drugs should be decriminalized, and nonviolent crime should have some other punishment.

Prison should be about protecting society from dangerous people, not locking up people who made a non-violent mistake.


[04-Aug-20 09:45 AM] wren#0114
prison-industrial complex needs serious reform


[04-Aug-20 09:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So petty theft that didn't involve threat with a weapon wouldn't get jailtime; It'd get mandatory community service or something. I know that might seem overly lenient, but I actually believe that would lead to *less* crime overall, since we're not mixing mild criminals with hardened mega-criminals. Our prison system usually makes people worse, not better.


[04-Aug-20 09:48 AM] wren#0114
it would help with community engagement rather than isolating and forcing re-integration later


[04-Aug-20 09:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I think so.

And yeah, I think prison being a private for-profit industry is 100% a conflict of interest.


[04-Aug-20 09:48 AM] wren#0114
^


[04-Aug-20 09:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, honestly dude, I think we're mostly on the same page here.


[04-Aug-20 09:50 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/jeffmadams/status/1242628790825545731

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[04-Aug-20 09:52 AM] Opponent#3498
...and I'm sitting here wondering where the fuck did they dig up 1412 from.


[04-Aug-20 09:52 AM] Opponent#3498
oh nvm it's 1492. So much for a mystery.


[04-Aug-20 09:58 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is Microsoft really about to buy TikTok?


[04-Aug-20 09:59 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Why isn't it Google


[04-Aug-20 10:00 AM] wren#0114
hmm, I don't know, but maybe it's because the main reason for the tiktok ban is bad security and concerns over it being used as spyware for china, in which case microsoft might be seen as trusted more by the government since they do a lot of stuff for the gov and military


[04-Aug-20 10:01 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Google please buy this trash so it can be eternally blocked in China


[04-Aug-20 10:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
I can't bear this shit anymore

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[04-Aug-20 10:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Yesterday my mom just posted me a fucking tiktok video


[04-Aug-20 10:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
a "biology expert" said there is 0.392 gram of "purine" in every 0.1 gram of ribbonfish, which will cause arthritis

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[04-Aug-20 10:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
accredited journalists and actual doctors - fake

random online nobody - trusted expert


[04-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Actually:
Journos/scientists - paid by pharma
Random online nobody - well reserched topic


[04-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh right, of course


[04-Aug-20 10:17 AM] wren#0114
:tired:


[04-Aug-20 10:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
what is "pharma"?


[04-Aug-20 10:21 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Pharmaceutical company


[04-Aug-20 12:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[04-Aug-20 12:09 PM] illumnious#7938
America


[04-Aug-20 12:13 PM] Crow#5457
nice, a strawman to justify disproportionate retribution


[04-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/740078830328479776


[04-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
Pinned a message.


[04-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
She outright says in the video it's to defend yourself against vehicular *murder*, not to drag innocent people out of their cars.


[04-Aug-20 01:32 PM] illumnious#7938
Uncle Sam's coronavirus aid looks a lot like a wealth transfer to the rich https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/richer-poorer-uncle-sam-s-coronavirus-response-widened-gulf-n1234073

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[04-Aug-20 02:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We had to pull teeth to get the GOP to agree to two measley stimulus checks over the course of six months.


[04-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[04-Aug-20 03:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The president don't need them fancy elitist mathematics


[04-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
gun is gud https://youtu.be/hbZgVeDSiBk

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[04-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.wksu.org/post/new-poll-puts-biden-over-trump-ohio-coronavirus-and-economy-are-top-issues#stream/0

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[04-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://morningconsult.com/2020-presidential-election-tracker/

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[04-Aug-20 04:19 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
https://youtu.be/YPSwqp5fdIw

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EXCLUSIVE: Police bodycam footage shows moment-by-moment arrest of ...
The terror on George Floyd's face as a rookie cop points a gun at his head while he sits in his car can be seen today for the first time. DailyMail.com has exclusively obtained video from the bodycams of officers Thomas Lane and Alex Kueng, who were part of Floyd's fatal arres...
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[04-Aug-20 04:20 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Not sure if this deserves to be in politics, but this deserves to be seen.


[04-Aug-20 04:20 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
To the surprise of basically nobody, the media truthbended again. Fuuuuuun.


[04-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Media bad"


[04-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
already been posted here but not sure how others reacted to this video


[04-Aug-20 04:22 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Oh it's already been posted here? Well damn


[04-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It changes nothing, the man was still unjustly murdered by the cops and was not violent


[04-Aug-20 04:23 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
The guy wasn't even murdered, the guy was resisting arrest and apparently had claustrophobia and anxiety.


[04-Aug-20 04:24 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And fell unconcious much later on. He didn't even say that he "can't breath" due to kneeing, he said he couldn't because he's apparently claustrophobic and was through complete panic.


[04-Aug-20 04:24 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Increasure in heart rate and panic attacks can do that.


[04-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/xRoqSyIi-98 so why did the toxicology report say homoside then

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[04-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
by this point nobody cares about the truth @MLPMVGuy . He's an icon, I thought people be joking about him being buried with more pomp than presidents and war heroes, until I saw the photosets.


[04-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think people ever cared.


[04-Aug-20 04:27 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
People don't care about the truth of stuff? Well that ain't very good. That just sounds like they're refusing to admit whether or not they're wrong about something, or just letting anger blind them.


[04-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what opponent said


[04-Aug-20 04:27 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Sucks. But what can ya do. Human nature.


[04-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
People saw him being humiliated and unjustly killed. Thats still a fact. They do care about the truth.


[04-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
People killed every day


[04-Aug-20 04:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And noone gives a shit


[04-Aug-20 04:29 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Then what's with all this? I'm not seeing many people address the body cam footage of this whole nonsense.


[04-Aug-20 04:29 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Not even the news. Maybe on internet articles but certainly not on TV.


[04-Aug-20 04:30 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1290656158903132161?s=21

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[04-Aug-20 04:30 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I'm not seeing many people care about it.

Even then, the narrative about him being "killed for racial motivations" don't even hold up anymore with this new information.


[04-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The guy had a gun pointed at him for a non vilont crime


[04-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also burh the media is reporting on this


[04-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats how it got out in the first place the daily mail sent it out


[04-Aug-20 04:32 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
They weren't calling him the N word, (I assume it's probably not allowed to be said here is it?) they weren't insulting his race, they never went and decided to arrest him because of it. And a non violent crime? Not so sure of that. I'm hearing that the guy literally pointed a gun at a pregnant woman.


[04-Aug-20 04:32 PM] illumnious#7938
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[04-Aug-20 04:32 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Correct me if I'm wrong though, it's something I'm hearing god knows how many times with this whole thing.


[04-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"People die everyday And noone gives a shit" not from blatant cop brutalty


[04-Aug-20 04:33 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
This isn't cop brutality. The man literally went unconcious after this whole thing.


[04-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@MLPMVGuy that was years ago


[04-Aug-20 04:34 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Is that so


[04-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The guy aleaglyed bought cigs with fake money


[04-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
His newest  crime to that point was back in 2007


[04-Aug-20 04:36 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Then what's with people trying to hold this man at a high pedestal? People are trying to say that this man "did no wrong" and trying to treat this man like a king. I don't know bout that one chief, cause personally, I don't think I'd hold some dude at a high pedestal when he committed literal crimes at some point, and had literal years of arrests.


[04-Aug-20 04:37 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And trying to go through this whole "racial violence" horseshit with this guy, acting like he's a victim towards it.


[04-Aug-20 04:39 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And like I was about to mention earlier, if the media mentioned it at some point, then why am I not hearing ANYONE speak about it? No one said to me they saw this on TV, I'm not seeing anything from TV footage saying that they covered this, so on and so forth. Not many people read internet articles, the news you'd get always ends up on TV.


[04-Aug-20 04:39 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And the ones that are usually on TV aren't known as much unfortunately.


[04-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In this case in a bubble all he allegedly did was buy some sigs with fake money. Thats all he allegedly did.


[04-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah yes the video that has only 1.5 million views released by the media is something "no one" is talking about.


[04-Aug-20 04:43 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
1.5 million views ain't exactly much compared to how many people are actually speaking about this.


[04-Aug-20 04:44 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
The whole George Floyd drama in of itself, I mean.


[04-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
1.5M in a day.


[04-Aug-20 04:44 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Like I said. Not exactly much compared to how many people are actually speaking about the George Floyd drama.


[04-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And you are not takeing in that this was one death ontop of lots of other police brutality


[04-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And the fact that now its much much bigger then just one mans death


[04-Aug-20 04:45 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Bruh I never said I was denying police brutality exists.


[04-Aug-20 04:45 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
It is an OBJECTIVE FACT that this exists. An objective fact racism exists.


[04-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody's been talking about Floyd for like a month


[04-Aug-20 04:46 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Except I'd like to speak about how I feel for specific situations, especially for situations like this. Where meaningless violence started because of it. And it shames me because I'm actually black myself.


[04-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's bigger then his death is what I am saying.


[04-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't know what you're expecting here, some sort of massive upheaval and 24/7 coverage of it all all over again?


[04-Aug-20 04:47 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Well that's what I WOULD expect for something this damning.


[04-Aug-20 04:47 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Things don't just fizzle out when something new comes up about it.


[04-Aug-20 04:48 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Especially in situations like this where it's something about racism, and a literal worldwide movement


[04-Aug-20 04:48 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Plus many riots and lootings as a result y'know.


[04-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
With cops now gassing protesters for Trump to get a photo op, cops shooting people on there porch, wight nanolisasts stirring up riots, kidnaping vans


[04-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thing is it's not that damming and changes little.


[04-Aug-20 04:48 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Those are seperate situations in of itself. I'm talking about the George Floyd situation specifically.


[04-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He still died at the hands of police. It was a homoside


[04-Aug-20 04:49 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Especially with how large it was during the start. BLM was everywhere, outside, the internet, social media, shops, everywhere.


[04-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They all grew out of this mans unjust death.


[04-Aug-20 04:50 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Weird. Cause there's still many people speaking about it. The black lives matter movement is still alive as is.


[04-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And the ignored crys of police reform from people kneeling during the anthom.


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's not weird at all. His death was unjust, full stop.


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
That's not what's weird.


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The protests now are more about police brutality at protests about police brutality


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Floyd's murder was just the spark


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
What's weird is that you're telling me that people grew out of this whole thing. And yet many people still spoke about it.


[04-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Short of him having pulled a gun on the cops, no new info will change much at all


[04-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
^this tbh


[04-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes people still speak about his unjust death, what about it?


[04-Aug-20 04:55 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
What else about it? People are still going through this narrative that he was killed for racist motives just because those were white cops who did this. They're not mentioning what really happened. Riots has calmed down a bit, yes, but I'm sure they're still going on somewhere. And I sure as hell know that people are still going through this BLM hashtag that I still see everywhere I go, to where I've outright muted the term on my Twitter because of how annoying it is. 

People should honestly know more, otherwise we'd have this whole nonsense go on.


[04-Aug-20 04:56 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I wish people could do that, but apparently this is how we people roll. Kinda unfortunate imo.


[04-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
>”He was resisting arrest”
Fuck off with that trash


[04-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Liberals want things to roll cause system is unjust


[04-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He was unjustly murdered by cops. Cop reform is still needed.


[04-Aug-20 04:58 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
@Kiryu-Chan literally watch the footage bro
You can see it right there


[04-Aug-20 04:58 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
> He was unjustly murdered by cops. Cop reform is still needed.
@Gordon Freeman I never denied that. I'm just saying that this situation can't help but give me an eyebrow raise.


[04-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
If someone struggling to breathe, then you’re using excessive force. It’s murder and the body cam doesn’t change anything


[04-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok but people are infact talking about what actuly happened.


[04-Aug-20 05:00 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
It's not many people though. This needs to spread in order for it to actually get anywhere.


[04-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
1.5 million views and spread to many other news networks. What else do you want for it to grow?


[04-Aug-20 05:02 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Maybe bigger news networks could mention it on TV? More of it to spread on the internet? And have the news networks that ARE reporting on it, to show more than a few minutes of footage instead of the whole thing to keep the false narrative going?


[04-Aug-20 05:02 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Many many many possibilities. That's what I believe is needed.


[04-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
daily mail is a big news site


[04-Aug-20 05:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Except like I said
It needs to be said on TV as well


[04-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Nbc isn't a big enough? Daily mail is also big.


[04-Aug-20 05:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Not many people use the internet y'know
Most people get this information on TV, and not even touch the news tab on Google


[04-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
retards*


[04-Aug-20 05:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Omegaoof


[04-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
who dafuk even owns tv,boomers?


[04-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Gamers


[04-Aug-20 05:07 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Yes


[04-Aug-20 05:07 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Imagine owning cable :moyaird:


[04-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah internet is how most people get news nowadays.


[04-Aug-20 05:09 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
That's true. But most of this usual stuff you'd see is still supposed to be covered on TV. A lot of people still use TV networks to get their news. Everybody in my family uses it, many people I know personally use it, so on so forth. It's just that not many people actually read internet articles.


[04-Aug-20 05:11 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
But I am at least glad people are able to call the media out on their bullshit whenever they do all this. Considering how on the NBC news covering, they've only shown just minutes of footage, and not the moment where he even went to the ground, or when he said he "couldn't breath." So many people called it out and I like that.


[04-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah but in the big picture it's not really that earth changing. He was still the victim if homicide by cops unjustifiably. People have a right to be pissed about that and demand cop reform. It would be good for it to be shown on tv but it doesn't really change that much.


[04-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also I can't stress how fucked up it was that cops gassed protesters for a Trump photo op. June 2nd 2020 was a sad day for America.


[04-Aug-20 05:17 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Did that actually happen?


[04-Aug-20 05:18 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
If that's the case, holy shit that's sickening.


[04-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53633315

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[04-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> The US president said he made a demand for a "substantial portion" of the purchase price in a phone call at the weekend with Microsoft's boss.


[04-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Sell your business to an american corporation _and_ give us a cut, or we ban you"


[04-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice


[04-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@MLPMVGuy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be

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[04-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[04-Aug-20 05:31 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Son of a fuckin bitch


[04-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
#runlikeabusiness


[04-Aug-20 05:31 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
God damn it
We have reached this point


[04-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[04-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It happened even before derpi drama :twismug:


[04-Aug-20 05:36 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Pfffft


[04-Aug-20 05:36 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Wooooooooow mate


[04-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
That's one cute pfp


[04-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
ye mlpmv


[04-Aug-20 05:47 PM] byte[]#2610
oh dear a new guy


[04-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> TikTok's US operations "will close down on September 15 unless Microsoft or somebody else is able to buy it and work out a deal, an appropriate deal so the Treasury… of the United States gets a lot of money," Trump said.


[04-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
p.fucking amazing tbh


[04-Aug-20 05:50 PM] byte[]#2610
@MLPMVGuy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull
> the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them.
basically, doesn't matter if floyd had a preexisting condition or was high on heroin, the actions of the police which resulted in the death of floyd are still murder


[04-Aug-20 05:51 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Yeah, admittedly it probably won't justify the murder that's been caused. But even then looking at this video, it almost seems completely unintentional murder.


[04-Aug-20 05:51 PM] byte[]#2610
what justifies stepping on a guy's back when he's already down, begging for you not to kill him, then kneeling on his neck


[04-Aug-20 05:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the intent of the officers was either his death or at least serious bodily harm


[04-Aug-20 05:52 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Except the thing is
He was unconcious before that
He was clearly panicking like hell in the body cam. He said he couldn't breath WAY before he even got on the ground. And he was unconcious when he did.


[04-Aug-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
_then why were they kneeling on him_


[04-Aug-20 05:53 PM] byte[]#2610
it takes like 10 seconds for four guys to lift and cuff a completely unconscious guy and about as much time to put him in the car


[04-Aug-20 05:54 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Literally just, look at the body cam. they weren't gonna do more than put him in the car. But he kept resisting, more than once.


[04-Aug-20 05:54 PM] byte[]#2610
I _did_


[04-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He can resist all he wants but you *do not put your knee on his neck.*


[04-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that part of the body that's vital for *breathing* shouldn't be held down


[04-Aug-20 05:57 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Then what are you trying to tell me? The kneeing did happen, except I'm not sure if the kneeing was ever intentional. Maybe it is, maybe it's not, I can't say for certain. One thing I can say though, is that he wasn't begging for his life when he was on the ground, he was having a definite panic attack when this happened, he was clearly claustrophobic with his weird behavior in the car, so on and so forth. 

To make it clear, I'm not trying to justify the cops killing him, I'm just trying to say that this is skeptic as fuck when looking at it.


[04-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People are tripping over themselves trying to excuse Chauvin from this video and there is no excuse.


[04-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Wasn't *intentional?* He had his knee there for over eight minutes.


[04-Aug-20 05:58 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Plus it feels weird to me that someone who says that they "can't breath" was still able to even say they couldn't out loud, out of pure panic.


[04-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But... it was *true.* He died.


[04-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People *can* choke out panicked words when their air supply is partially cut off.


[04-Aug-20 05:59 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
But the way he was speaking didn't sound too much like he choked them out.


[04-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Breathing is not a binary; He clearly had trouble breathing because of the way Chauvin was crushing his neck.


[04-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He might've been able to breathe *enough* to speak but he ultimately died, so I mean


[04-Aug-20 06:00 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Except he didn't. He wasn't getting his neck crushed until after the fact. He wasn't even on the ground when he said he couldn't breath.


[04-Aug-20 06:00 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
He was unconcious when he was even on the ground.


[04-Aug-20 06:00 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
So he wouldn't really have that issue if he's unconcious.


[04-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then Chauvin looks even worse. He "restrained" an unconscious man by choking him, ultimately to death.


[04-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Lock the bastard up for the rest of his life, I say. Send a message to other cops not to pull this shit anymore.


[04-Aug-20 06:02 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I still feel skeptic about it. Why did he even do it then? Where's the motive? Where's the evidence? What was the point? It's clearly not racial motives judging by the whole bodycam footage. It doesn't make sense.


[04-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You feel "skeptic" about something you saw with your own eyes?


[04-Aug-20 06:03 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Well with the new bodycam footage, that's for damn sure.


[04-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The footage still shows Chauvin kill Floyd.


[04-Aug-20 06:03 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And the lack of information that still persists.


[04-Aug-20 06:04 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
No it didn't. It only showed the cops trying to arrest him, and he kept resisting. And it only shown him have a panic attack through that whole thing.


[04-Aug-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
here's how this is supposed to work: they want to arrest a guy for a suspected criminal act, he begs and struggles when initially apprehended, they get him down on the ground the way they are supposedly trained to in order not to injure him, they then immediately cuff him and put him in the police car


[04-Aug-20 06:04 PM] byte[]#2610
here's what happened instead: they got him down and then knelt on him for 8 minutes until he died


[04-Aug-20 06:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Exactly. There is *no* excuse for that.


[04-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't care *how* panicked Floyd was. You do not kneel on his neck. There is never a good reason to do that.


[04-Aug-20 06:05 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Then what the hell is with the bodycam footage? It only shows him CLEARLY panicking, refusing to get in the car, and saying that he was claustrophobic af. He didn't even fall off the ground until he went unconcious.


[04-Aug-20 06:05 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
He initially refused to even get in the car. That's just police resistance.


[04-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So? None of that justifies kneeling on his neck. All of those things - while true - are *irrelevant.*


[04-Aug-20 06:05 PM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't _matter_, they are police officers, they have the power to physically compel him to get him into the car by lifting him if they need


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[04-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
god damn it


[04-Aug-20 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
you think _four_ police officers can't deal with one guy who panics?


[04-Aug-20 06:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
> So? None of that justifies kneeling on his neck. All of those things - while true - are *irrelevant.*
@Dr. Mechano I just said more than once that I never justified them doing that. I'm just questioning things.


[04-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh. Fireworks. Probably not terrorism, but still, scary stuff.


[04-Aug-20 06:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
@byte[] Well those guys who did do it clearly didn't know how to handle it. At least that's how it looked.


[04-Aug-20 06:07 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
If that's the case, firing is indeed in order~


[04-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What is there to question? Was Chauvin out of line for kneeling on his neck or not? Does Floyd's conduct *matter* in answering that question?


[04-Aug-20 06:08 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Well it clearly does matter, considering this entire drivel, these riots, these protests, were all because someone died. For reasons that were clearly false.


[04-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Wait, what?


[04-Aug-20 06:08 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
At least, with the new bodycam footage.


[04-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Chauvin *did* kneel on Floyd's neck. That's not false at all.


[04-Aug-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
the protests were because the cops were out of line


[04-Aug-20 06:09 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
@Dr. Mechano Nnnno that's not what I mean. I mean that he died because of "racist motives" and that shit.


[04-Aug-20 06:09 PM] byte[]#2610
as they have been for literally forever, but people have been mostly isolated from the realities of brutal policing in the US due to massive copaganda campaigns


[04-Aug-20 06:10 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
If this is really how the protests are, why is racism being involved? Why is the BLM movement a thing? Why is there complaints about racism over this?


[04-Aug-20 06:11 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And all that other shit that's been happening? What's the point then? Why not just keep this as just police protests if that was the case? Why bring racism into the matter? Is it because the cops that were doing this were white?


[04-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Black people are treated more roughly by cops in general. This is documented. 

I believe that, all other factors being equal, if Floyd were a panicking white guy, Chauvin would be less likely to have kneeled on his neck.


[04-Aug-20 06:12 PM] byte[]#2610
because the criminal justice system has a racial disparity. even controlling for everything else, black people are disproportionately more likely to be stopped, more likely to be arrested, less likely to have access to fair legal representation, more likely to plea out to crimes they do not commit, and likely to be sentenced more harshly than equivalent crimes committed by individuals who are not black


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, I was wondering what's with the multicolored smoke. Probably an accident then.


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Doubt it. Course black people get treated incorrectly, not denying that. But even then, the cops in this case didn't even say anything racist. They didn't call him the N word, they didn't refer to his skin color in any case, nothing


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not a strategic target. Although one hell of a boom regardless.


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Big hmmst


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
george floyd being a black man murdered by cops, shortly after the death of Breonna Taylor, sparked nationwide protests


[04-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You

You don't have to *say* anything. It's the averages. It's the *way* black people are more likely to be stopped, searched, disproportionately sentenced, brutalized, and killed by the authorities.


[04-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When controlling for other factors like criminal history compared to white people, I mean.


[04-Aug-20 06:14 PM] byte[]#2610
ITT: person discovers that you don't have to call a black guy a nigger to be a racist


[04-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're *still* treated more harshly even when all other factors are equal


[04-Aug-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Reminder that all this problem about police brutality, unfair arrests and justice, and incarceration that plagues African American communities to this day has kind of an economic incentive -- prison slave labor


[04-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yep! Our prison system is so ass-backwards that it's a private corporate *industry* that actively wants to keep people there for as long and as cheaply as possible. We put people in jail for largely minor offenses and treat them like garbage.


[04-Aug-20 06:17 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I am well aware that happens a lot. Except why this situation specifically? Killing someone over so and so reason only just leaves questions. How exactly would it result into racism? What could you do to be vaguely racist over it? I already know that kneeing him to death was really extreme, not justifyable but it's something I question. But even then the only question I'm asking over this is like, why? Where's the motive of the officers to kill them? Where's the evidence of one possibly existing? Because this all just sounds like pure impulse because apparently white cops ended up arresting a black guy.


[04-Aug-20 06:17 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
None of this makes any sense. There has to be a clear motive for this all to happen if this was the case.


[04-Aug-20 06:18 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And yes admittedly, the justice system can be quite fucked up here.


[04-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a power trip.

Some cops get high on control, and Chauvin was definitely one of them. He had *dozens* of abuse complaints before killing Floyd, and this could've been prevented had they been taken seriously.


[04-Aug-20 06:18 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
The guy had abuse complaints before?


[04-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Over two dozen of them


[04-Aug-20 06:19 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I'm gonna need to see some research about that


[04-Aug-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I can't point to a _single_ instance where a white guy was knelt on by the cops and then died after stating he couldn't breathe, but you know what I can point to? the killing of the black man eric garner, where he was suffocated to death by cops in a very similar way
or the killing of christopher lowe
or the killing of javier ambler
or the killing of derrick scott
or the killing of byron williams
or the killing of john neville
or the killing of manuel ellis
or the killing of _george floyd_


[04-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sorry, slightly less than two dozen actually: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/derek-chauvin-what-we-know-trnd/index.html 

But here you go.

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Derek Chauvin: What we know about the former officer charged in Geo...
Chauvin had worked for the department for over 18 years at the time of his firing -- and throughout that time, he'd received at least 18 complaints. Here's what we know about the ex-police officer.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200531191644-02-derek-chauvin-mugshot-super-tease.jpg


[04-Aug-20 06:20 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I can't exactly trust this as much considering this comes from CNN. I'm gonna go look in another area.


[04-Aug-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
if this is supposedly not a racial problem, why does it only seem to ever happen to black people?


[04-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What news source *do* you trust?


[04-Aug-20 06:22 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Anything that isn't from the big people like CNN and NBC and so on. Considering how many times the media has done things like truthbend, or just not address the whole problem. So on and so forth, you get the idea. Just a lack of trust is all.


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So you want some local station or something?


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
then I don't think we can even have a reasonable conversation about facts that _do_ occur, because regardless of what those sources omit, they tend to get the things they actually state correct


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
even Fox News's reporting is very accurate


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
@Dr. Mechano Nah, I conduct my own research for this type of stuff


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Where?


[04-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Where do you usually do your research? I eman, what specific sources do you find reliable is my question.


[04-Aug-20 06:25 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Sometimes I get them from Twitter. Sometimes I get them from other internet articles. 
Sometimes I get them from other people. Someone I consistently go to is a guy named Optimus.
So on and so forth. Somewhere all around that isn't from those bigger ones specifically.


[04-Aug-20 06:25 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Right now I'm searching on Insider


[04-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Dude. Those aren't accredited or trustworthy sources. It's social media and "some guy I know."


[04-Aug-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
see, now I feel completely justified :twiright:


[04-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I will say is that if CNN posted a *fictitious* list of complaints against Chauvin, they could be sued for libel. News organizations take shit like that very seriously.

While healthy skepticism of *bias* in reporting is fine, believing the news is intentionally reporting outright lies is not.


[04-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, that's conspiracy-land territory


[04-Aug-20 06:26 PM] wren#0114
I can't see the content of the complaints


[04-Aug-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I believe they were leaked online by the ACLU


[04-Aug-20 06:27 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Not implying that they are always reliable, cause they aren't. It's just that I'd rather get stuff from places that don't have a history of lying about things, truthbending, telling half truths, not addressing the whole thing, yadda yadda.

Even the bodycam footage wasn't even covered entirely by NBC.


[04-Aug-20 06:27 PM] wren#0114
at least, cnn source linked says it's not public info


[04-Aug-20 06:27 PM] wren#0114
o they were leaked?


[04-Aug-20 06:27 PM] byte[]#2610
CNN obtained them through document requests, but police systems were compromised and millions of complaints against police officers were dumped a few weeks ago


[04-Aug-20 06:28 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I can't exactly take news territories that are apparently considered "reliable" and such when they end up being a consistent mess that cause nothing but pointless arguments


[04-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
```if this is supposedly not a racial problem, why does it only seem to ever happen to black people?```
an easy answer would be, because this is what sells and so what gets covered.


[04-Aug-20 06:28 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Another reason why I don't even delve into politics


[04-Aug-20 06:28 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
> ```if this is supposedly not a racial problem, why does it only seem to ever happen to black people?```
> an easy answer would be, because this is what sells and so what gets covered.
@Opponent Not wrong


[04-Aug-20 06:29 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Big topic = easy money ha ha


[04-Aug-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
the problem with that argument is that statistics on _all_ police use of force incidences is regularly compiled and guess what, black people are still disproportionately affected by it


[04-Aug-20 06:29 PM] byte[]#2610
the reporting of just one incidence is unfortunate, but the trend is an utter tragedy


[04-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It happens to everyone, actually - it just disproportionately happens to black and hispanic people compared to other groups even when controlling for criminal history.

And *since* it happens to everyone, then even if you don't believe systemic racism is a real problem (which is incorrect; it is) you should still be pushing to hold the cops accountable.


[04-Aug-20 06:31 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
The cops should still be held accountable for this type of shit that's been done, don't get me wrong. It's just that every time I think about it, especially with this new body cam information, it only resulted into questions. Multiple questions.

Also no one really said that systemic racism is a real problem, cause it is, but even then it'd look into things on its own.


[04-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, fair enough @byte[] . So how do unjust murders look for whites vs blacks? Because blacks are covered sufficiently enough that you know them by _name_.


[04-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
which is unironically impressive tbh.


[04-Aug-20 06:33 PM] byte[]#2610
here's how unjust murders look for whites: cops fatally shoot unarmed suspect while he's kneeling. utterly tragic, and should _never ever happen_, but not even nearly as endemic as the way killing unarmed black men seems to be


[04-Aug-20 06:34 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
The motive isn't clear on the actual murder. The footage shown to be the last moments of Floyd makes the whole thing sound weird after all the moments that was said multiple times before this footage was out.

Saying this like he "was on the ground begging for his life" even though he was just panicking, not even on the ground until unconcious, or "he couldn't breath and was begging for air" even though he wasn't even on the ground till then. You can't beg for air when you're not even concious.


[04-Aug-20 06:34 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
It's just something that seems off.


[04-Aug-20 06:35 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
And yes unjust murders are indeed a thing, but apparently we live in a society where that exists, and we got a loooong way before that'll be changed.


[04-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is why we're taking to the streets. To make it less of a long way.


[04-Aug-20 06:36 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Well the protests should've stayed peaceful if that was the case. Wish that the riots shouldn't have even happened in the first place.


[04-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We *could* kick back and just wait for society to get better eventually. Screw that. We're tired of waiting. It's time to make society better.

The protests largely *have* stayed peaceful, so mission accomplished.

The few riots I don't condone, but I understand why they're happening. They're symptoms of the larger problem of an unjust society.


[04-Aug-20 06:38 PM] byte[]#2610
looters and arsonists are generally opportunists and are not aligned with the goals of protestors


[04-Aug-20 06:39 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I don't think the riots were just a few. Literally anywhere I was going there was riots coming. But tbf that probably just be my experience.


[04-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They are just a few.

The overwhelming majority of protests have been peaceful.


[04-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is not an opinion, it's a numerical reality. Most protests have gone without incident.


[04-Aug-20 06:39 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Change has to be done, but all of this awareness spreading and rioting probably isn't gonna lead to it. Especially considering that the Congress and shit don't actually care one bit.


[04-Aug-20 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
yet the protests _are working_; local and state legislatures are taking concrete action


[04-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Not nearly enough, but yes, some change has happened.


[04-Aug-20 06:40 PM] byte[]#2610
they aren't taking enough action, but they are hardly sitting on their hands


[04-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Colorado finally got rid of qualified immunity, and the entire country ought to do likewise.


[04-Aug-20 06:42 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Taking barely any action isn't exactly enough to change everything. But it is commendable that they're actually doing at least something instead of nothing. Plus racism in of itself honestly probably is never gonna actually stop. 

Police brutality, maybe. But racism, not really.


[04-Aug-20 06:43 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Even then a few states outside of the whole country doesn't mean much honestly.


[04-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Racism may not ever fully go away, but we can certainly make it less powerful by legislating around it.


[04-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think culturally we can also decrease its influence on our society by teaching acceptance, which we're doing - but y'know, better.


[04-Aug-20 06:46 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Maybe so. But considering how human strife and human bias works, that'll take a good while for that to change. 

Plus if we want legislations around it, then we might want better people actually leading America.


[04-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Our generation is objectively less racist than our grandparents on average. Clearly it has gotten better, and I believe it can (and should) continue to get better.


[04-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But that didn't happen in a vacuum, you know. We're less racist, in part, because people actively *fought against* the prevailing racist norms of the day. Just as people are doing now.


[04-Aug-20 06:48 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Then we might as well get better people to lead the damning country, becuase the ones right now might as well be our grandparents. Considering how young people are knowing better than the old, then we need young people to get in here and change things.


[04-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, on that you and I agree. I'd love to see more young people represented in government.


[04-Aug-20 06:49 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Absolutely.


[04-Aug-20 06:49 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Otherwise we won't really get anywhere as much.


[04-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Boomers are also an absolutely huge generation. I mean, it's right there in their name; they were born in the post-WWII baby boom, so they've got massive voting influence right now just because there's so many of them.


[04-Aug-20 06:54 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Yeah that's true, which honestly I'd expect better from. They're racial biases thst they've kept throughout their entire life, living in the past and all that shit, is honestly just annoying. Thinking that whatever happened god knows how long ago still holds up today. And yet the younger people know better, but sometimes they can get influenced by those larger figures for being on the earth longer than they have. Unfortunately how that works.


[04-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[04-Aug-20 06:54 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Pffff


[04-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I don't want to generalize again. There are definitely progressive old people. Like, I love Bernie, he's been consistently progressive on issues long before they were popular.


[04-Aug-20 06:56 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Yeah, I know, not meaning to generalize, but I'm just saying that's something that happens a lot.


[04-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Smug Trixie, no contradiction there: One can have serious problems with Tik Tok but also not think the president should be trying to exercise his executive power to *ban it* outright.


[04-Aug-20 06:56 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
TikTok is kinda shady anyway
But I don't think it actually warrants a ban :StarlightShrug:


[04-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a teacher I'm predisposed to disliking Tik Tok because my students are always goofing off on it. But the president banning it would be massive mondo overreach.


[04-Aug-20 06:58 PM] wren#0114
I wonder what went into the decision, like the intelligence reports we don't get to see


[04-Aug-20 06:58 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I hate TikTok because of the amount of garbage content that's on there lmfao
But the president banning it sounds completely overkill


[04-Aug-20 06:58 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
> I wonder what went into the decision, like the intelligence reports we don't get to see
@wren big hmmmst :StarlightThink:


[04-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If it's about it stealing your information, then I have some news for y'all about American social media companies.


[04-Aug-20 06:59 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
_It does that all the time_


[04-Aug-20 06:59 PM] wren#0114
indeed, and I'm against it here too


[04-Aug-20 06:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
or the patriot act which both frigging obama and trump kept active


[04-Aug-20 06:59 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Literally any social media platform at this point uses your information at some point, for whatever reason. It's quite literally how it's gotta work


[04-Aug-20 06:59 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Christ


[04-Aug-20 07:00 PM] wren#0114
it only has to work so invasively because that's how they monetize it


[04-Aug-20 07:00 PM] wren#0114
patriot act is unacceptable to me


[04-Aug-20 07:01 PM] wren#0114
but apparently not enough people want to change it


[04-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It has bipartisan support so I don't know if we're gonna see it go away anytime soon.

Like, I'm voting Biden but I doubt he'll touch it.


[04-Aug-20 07:02 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I haven't heard the term "Patriot act" in a good while
Wondering what that means again


[04-Aug-20 07:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It lets the government spy on citizens they find suspicious.


[04-Aug-20 07:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

Specifically: 


- expanded abilities of law enforcement to surveil, including by tapping domestic and international phones;
- eased interagency communication to allow federal agencies to more effectively use all available resources in counterterrorism efforts; and
- increased penalties for terrorism crimes and an expanded list of activities which would qualify someone to be charged with terrorism.

That first one's the main thing that affects most of us.

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[04-Aug-20 07:03 PM] wren#0114
phone records, internet history, banking transactions, all accessible by government without court warrants


[04-Aug-20 07:03 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Oh son of a bitch
That


[04-Aug-20 07:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It started under Bush.


[04-Aug-20 07:04 PM] wren#0114
gotta love how they slid it through with such a pretty sounding name


[04-Aug-20 07:04 PM] wren#0114
how could you possibly be unpatriotic!!?


[04-Aug-20 07:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"You don't want to stand against *patriotism,* do you?"


[04-Aug-20 07:04 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I absolutely don't like the fact that the government is apparently gonna know anything I do at any time
But apparently that's not gonna be fixed anytime soon


[04-Aug-20 07:05 PM] wren#0114
dear fbi agent reading this: I'm lonely pls you know where I live b


[04-Aug-20 07:05 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Dear FBI agent reading this: your mum gay :moyaird:


[04-Aug-20 07:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
well good

I hope FBI Mom finds a nice girlfriend


[04-Aug-20 07:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Pfffffft


[04-Aug-20 07:06 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Lmfao :PinkieInsaneLaugh:


[04-Aug-20 07:07 PM] wren#0114
what if the agent is the mom, and you're talking to her grandma


[04-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that'd be great, grandmas are adorable


[04-Aug-20 07:07 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Oh god


[04-Aug-20 07:08 PM] wren#0114
I'd be embarrassed to have a grandma reading my pony hoof rp


[04-Aug-20 07:08 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
I'd feel weird if a grandma saw me casually talking about horse plot


[04-Aug-20 07:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That would warrant investigations into bestiality.


[04-Aug-20 07:11 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
Oh jesus


[04-Aug-20 07:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY

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AXIOS on HBO: President Trump Exclusive Interview (Full Episode) | HBO
On the return of Axios on HBO, Axios National Political Correspondent, Jonathan Swan, speaks with President Donald Trump about multiple topics including the coronavirus crisis, the Black Lives Matter movement, the November election, and U.S. Foreign Policy in Afghanistan, Chin...
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[04-Aug-20 07:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This interview is like a comedy sketch.


[04-Aug-20 07:14 PM] illumnious#7938
It is


[04-Aug-20 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
using trump for comedy is cheating imo

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[04-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
another example of the fake news making trump look bad by reporting his words and actions


[04-Aug-20 07:33 PM] Opponent#3498
```Oh son of a bitch
That```


[04-Aug-20 07:33 PM] Opponent#3498
the greatest success of US government, bar none. People meme about 9/11 inside job, but usually in cases like these you check who benefits from it, and the benefits US gov't got were enourmous.


[04-Aug-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
to pass something like this going directly against nation's core identity, for quite a modest monetary price, amazing doesn't begin to cover it.


[04-Aug-20 07:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bush didn't plan it or anything but he certainly was very opportunistic once it happened.


[04-Aug-20 08:32 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/2Dm2ztT

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Massive explosion shocks Beirut, casualties feared
A huge explosion in Beirut occurred on Tuesday evening.
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[04-Aug-20 09:15 PM] illumnious#7938
Also sheesh

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[04-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What's recovery rate?


[04-Aug-20 09:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Florida conservative response to the BLM street sign: https://mobile.twitter.com/GRIFTSH0P/status/1290280557562089474

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cannot emphasize enough just how shitty this looks
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[04-Aug-20 09:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
BOBK THE BLUP :bigbrain:

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[04-Aug-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
i legit cant read what it says


[04-Aug-20 09:53 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53636296
"Stay in your place poors." -🇬🇧

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Thousands of Scots pupils have exam grades lowered
The exam body says it lowered 125,000 grades that had been estimated by teachers to "maintain credibility".
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[04-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Phelan#7647
If cities allow BLM to appear on their streets, they open the possibility of other statements being painted on the ground. City can't engage in viewpoint discrimination.


[04-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, that's not the problem.


[04-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is that they hired a bad graphic designer.


[04-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah if you can't read the message it's vandalism, not activism :bewk:


[04-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Phelan#7647
Yee, just mentioning that cause a lot of people are under the impression that cities can pick and choose which messages are allowed on the street.


[04-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
No Lives Matter

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[04-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Phelan#7647
I mean, if you wanted to.


[04-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
that's something I could paint or sponsor.


[04-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>No Lives Matter

Sounds like anti-natalism


[04-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism

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Antinatalism, or anti-natalism, is a philosophical position and social movement that assigns a negative value to birth. Antinatalists argue that people should abstain from procreation because it is morally bad (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as mo...


[04-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
not quite. Way I see it, if life is single and finite, it's too short and with too many pitfalls. If it's not either of those, then in the grand scheme of things a single life isn't _that_ important either, outside of moment-to-moment experience.


[04-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
so, in either of those cases there's no concerete reason to hold onto it, and of course naturally I favour the latter option.


[04-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
My prediction, as of today.

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[04-Aug-20 11:38 PM] byte[]#2610
Tight race

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[04-Aug-20 11:48 PM] illumnious#7938
nooooooooo


[04-Aug-20 11:49 PM] illumnious#7938
more blue


[04-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, this is fair.


[05-Aug-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
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[05-Aug-20 12:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1290758551737192455

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Lebanese president blames 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate left in warehouse unchecked for six years for devastating Beirut blast

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[05-Aug-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Oh boy i forgot the last time i checked this massive storage of explosives, lemme go into it just for a min-whoopsie, accidentally lit a fire, guess the whole block's gonna be pulverized in less than a minute or so"


[05-Aug-20 12:32 AM] byte[]#2610
excellent defense


[05-Aug-20 12:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/439519603459227661/740302820519182486/Test123-1.webm

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[05-Aug-20 12:33 AM] ononim#8141
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital

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Beirut explosion: at least 78 dead and 4,000 wounded, says Lebanon ...
Interior minister says ammonium nitrate likely caused at least one explosion amid reports hospitals too damaged to treat patients
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[05-Aug-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean you can just _tell_ why the ministers are resigning from this government.


[05-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Opponent#3498
from a different angle, it seems like the explosives were stored in the next warehouse to the one burning. Then the fire spread. Oops.


[05-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Totally a normal thing to happen. https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/aurora-police-detain-black-family-after-mistaking-their-vehicle-as-stolen

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Aurora police detain Black family after mistaking their vehicle as ...
Police detained and handcuffed a Black mother and several children after mistaking their SUV for a stolen motorcycle from another state.
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[05-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why there are riots.


[05-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Police see a number come up bad and don't even read the associated text.


[05-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
They put children in handcuffs on the hot pavement.


[05-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
One MOMENT of due diligence would've avoided this.


[05-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
A single OUNCE of caution would've taken away the harm.


[05-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is some dumbfuckery. Black or not, they had the picture of the vehicle, and... ignored it.


[05-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't a procedural issue like with stepping on the neck, or profiling. This is straight up gross negligence.


[05-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and this cannot be legislated away, least not directly.


[05-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a procedural issue, in part.


[05-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
The procedure as written says in the case of a stolen vehicle to come up, weapons drawn, and force everyone out for immediate handcuffing.


[05-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not written with any "maybe don't do this if you think something's wrong, or maybe consider not handcuffing chlidren..."


[05-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The procedure they were given is retarded.


[05-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Procedures like this are often written by racists with the express purpose being so that officers let their racial biases take over.


[05-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the mostly mainly, those policemen got a slap on wrist.


[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Opponent#3498
I _really_ dont think this is a racial issue though. I know everything is to you, but I can see reasoning behind it. It might not be great or be nuanced, but it's sound. Someone who's already stolen a car might very well be armed.


[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is le racist officer will see text like "treat CRIMINAL harshly" and remember that whites aren't criminals, blakks are.


[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately, this is how racism in the US works.


[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://abcnews.go.com/US/louisvilles-top-cops-refuse-answer-questions-breonna-taylor/story?id=72165319

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Louisville's top cops refuse to answer questions on Breonna Taylor ...
They walked out of a committee hearing on Monday, refusing to answer questions.
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[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
In any other country, "be harsh on criminals" isn't really a problem for race reasons.


[05-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in the US, there is EXTREME stereotyping all over the culture.


[05-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which associates minorities with criminal behavior.


[05-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This allows racists in power to piggybakk off it and create racial disparities without being extremely overt.


[05-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they use the arrest records to say HEY LOOK THE STEREOTYPES ARE RIGHT.


[05-Aug-20 01:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://imgur.com/a/VuG1kxA (album)

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[05-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
When Republicans shout "BE TOUGH ON CRIME", they aren't saying to lokk up the white guys who get a slap on the wrist for fraud.


[05-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't saying to go after corruption in political office.


[05-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't saying to make sure nobody gets Epstein's sweetheart plea deal.


[05-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are saying to arrest blakk people for whatever excuses are possible to show them who's boss.


[05-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't even saying to make sure that drunk white college students go to jail after they start raping girls. They'll be quite silent on that one.


[05-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
And you can say it's implicitly about *violent* crime, but nope, it's almost always about drug offenses.


[05-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robberies usually get some token changes to enforcement/sentencing, but the real crakkdown is always about drugs.


[05-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well no, it means "there're too many minorities and poors within 500 yards of where I am, someone should eliminate them"


[05-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/04/politics/donald-trump-mail-in-voting-florida/index.html

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In apparent reversal, Trump encourages Floridians to vote by mail
After repeatedly seeking to discredit mail-in voting, President Donald Trump on Tuesday claimed Florida's election system is "safe and secure" and encourages Floridians to vote by mail.
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[05-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's essentially saying "we implemented a poll tax in Florida, so mail-in voting is okay because we hav a way to keep the blakks out".


[05-Aug-20 01:16 AM] Opponent#3498
poll tax, that's new. Constitution much?


[05-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically a poll tax, not called that but still


[05-Aug-20 01:19 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, is that even remotely legal?


[05-Aug-20 01:19 AM] Opponent#3498
because that seems like a wonderful solution that would have already been universal if they could do it. If the goal is to keep poors out, that is.


[05-Aug-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
A few years ago, Florida issued a ballot initiative to allow former convicted felons who have served their time to be able to vote again. It passed, overwhelmingly


[05-Aug-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
The Republican controlled legislature realized that this could mean that they would _never hold office ever again_


[05-Aug-20 01:20 AM] byte[]#2610
So they put a stipulation on the initiative saying that all outstanding court dues and fines have to be paid in order for those people to be allowed to vote


[05-Aug-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
This was challenged and brought before the supreme court where roberts in his infinite lack of wisdom decided to let it stand and said "yeah totally cool, totally legal"


[05-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[05-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is this isn't really recent. That's just the recent tip of it.


[05-Aug-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
The reason there are so many ex-felons in Florida is because a lot of black people live there and are arrested and charged for drug possession which is a federal charge with mandatory minimum sentencing guidelines


[05-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The older context is Florida charges blakk people with felonies like crazy, in order to suppress them.


[05-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it has a means of restoring the right to vote once you serve your time...at the discretion of the governor.


[05-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is Republican governors don't restore rights to blakks, only whites, to stay in power.


[05-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you get white guys who shot up places and would do it again getting their voting rights bakk, and blakk guys that hav dedicated their post prison life to reforming others...not.


[05-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ballot initiative sought to tear apart this stupid system.


[05-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also


[05-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
massive court fees/fines are against the 8th amendment.


[05-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that amendment only gets brought up when it's white people getting fined.


[05-Aug-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
A couple of rich philanthropists have pledged to help pay people's dues


[05-Aug-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
But it's not enough, Florida is still out of play for this year's election


[05-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another thing to note


[05-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans shit on Puerto Rico hard


[05-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
because it's full of non-whites who don't count as far as votes


[05-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
but when they move to Florida, they suddenly get to actually matter politically.


[05-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so, Florida Republicans hav catered to Puerto Ricans in Florida like crazy.


[05-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
while still shitting on the ones still in Puerto Rico, of course.


[05-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all a strategy to say "hey, we helped you out after you left that shithole, how about a little...repayment?"


[05-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's how Florida's governor managed reelection in 2018 despite a surge of Democrat voters in the suburbs.


[05-Aug-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
America needs a total rehaul tbh


[05-Aug-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you know what i mean


[05-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I understand exactly what you mean
*deletes the south* :twismug:


[05-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't know Raptorshy was the Supreme Court.


[05-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
(cause of what they did to Oklahoma)


[05-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really looking forward to when Gorsuch says that large parts of Florida belong to the Cherokee.


[05-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[05-Aug-20 02:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/kittynouveau/status/1285105006631440385 these people have a right to vote...

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[05-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
School not being year round is part of the reason American children fall behind comparatively


[05-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even giving the equivalent of two and a half months spaced out over the year for breaks would be better.


[05-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
what do you mean by 'not year round'? How is it structured right now?


[05-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Summer is a long break.


[05-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
School here runs late August to early May.


[05-Aug-20 02:16 AM] byte[]#2610
public schools in the US run 9 months from roughly the start of september to the end of may


[05-Aug-20 02:17 AM] byte[]#2610
(with a few weeks scattered in for holidays)


[05-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
so like post-USSR system, if shifted around a bit.


[05-Aug-20 02:17 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont remember what i learned in high school outside bullies are evil


[05-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Opponent#3498
okay. And where is it different?


[05-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Synfag#9241
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[05-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Opponent#3498
there's only one religion in the People's Republic. And that's the Party.


[05-Aug-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
anyway, the reason kids have a hard time learning in the US is because the deck is stacked against them in far too many ways, not because summer break is too long


[05-Aug-20 02:18 AM] byte[]#2610
consider that republicans siphon public school funding away every year to create a self fulfilling prophecy that "public school doesn't work"


[05-Aug-20 02:19 AM] byte[]#2610
consider that at home, the average parents can only read at a sixth grade level (!!)


[05-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How can a parent possibly teach Calculus, unless they were a Calculus professor or something?


[05-Aug-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
consider that in response to the alarming slump in student aptitude, administrations create and foster test culture where teachers are forced to teach to a specific test rather than what the students actually need to know each year, and students are not held back when they need to be


[05-Aug-20 02:20 AM] jlun2#8758
im so frustrated about the parents reading rates @byte[]


[05-Aug-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
it so often happens that stupid parents = stupid kids


[05-Aug-20 02:20 AM] byte[]#2610
and it's being made even worse by the fact that everyone's mother now seemingly has a degree in facebook and is an expert on every subject matter imaginable


[05-Aug-20 02:21 AM] jlun2#8758
so annoying they dont need to read to buy a house & im like "i read over 11k fanfics each over 1k words & work at min wage" :ts_cry:


[05-Aug-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the US has one of the highest homeschooling rates of any country in the world


[05-Aug-20 02:22 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-53650246

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[05-Aug-20 02:22 AM] byte[]#2610
I am of the opinion that homeschooling should be _banned_ entirely; we have the internet now to bring a classroom to anywhere in the world


[05-Aug-20 02:23 AM] byte[]#2610
if the parent can't afford it, then the school district should pay for a line or a fixed wireless deployment


[05-Aug-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This tbh -- homeschooling should *definitely* not include delicate matters such as history and social studies imo


[05-Aug-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's very easy for nutty parents to paint a very biased and unnuanced picture in regards to these matters


[05-Aug-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Children should learn these socially -- parents can be included, but they should not be the only source of a person's politics


[05-Aug-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
a parent should not be allowed to raise a child in isolation of the society the child is expected to grow up into


[05-Aug-20 02:37 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the perfect scenario for radicalization of the child


[05-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Homeschooling should be allowed but with VERY strict testing.


[05-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't be letting kids get by not knowing basic shit about history or math or whatnot.


[05-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And no I don't mean the standardized stuff.


[05-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
My dad had a homeschooling program that was very creationist


[05-Aug-20 03:22 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont understand how people think just because animals were created by god somehow means they cant evolve.

im curious if decades later people reading the bible thinking recently extinct animals mentioned there as fictional creatures


[05-Aug-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
to most creationists, accepting the evolution of species is more or less tantamount to accepting that capital G God didn't design all the species himself


[05-Aug-20 03:25 AM] byte[]#2610
which is heresy and therefore, libtard 😎


[05-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Opponent#3498
why not accept God designing evolution mechanisms?


[05-Aug-20 03:26 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent hey ikr


[05-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
after all, any sandbox player would tell you, the dynamic system is much more fun than a static one.


[05-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Opponent#3498
and if we're created in God's own image..


[05-Aug-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
because the bible doesn't allow that interpretation, supposedly


[05-Aug-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God is apparently supposed to be perfect, but also... not?
Apparently we're also not supposed to understand him because he's complicated, yet there's an entire book written about his deeds and intentions and everything? What the fuck


[05-Aug-20 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
even though it was translated from ancient texts and contains a massive amount of information which permanently lost its intended meaning


[05-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Opponent#3498
:sad:


[05-Aug-20 03:28 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] that sounds like my ancient notes from the far off year of 2019 :ts_cry:


[05-Aug-20 03:28 AM] byte[]#2610
religious freaks are nuts


[05-Aug-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
But Christianity is mainstream, so people ignore how nuts it really is


[05-Aug-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Then they point at Scientology and go "wtf this church is a massive scam and the ideology is insane"


[05-Aug-20 03:29 AM] byte[]#2610
to which the only response is "Hey, I'm glad you noticed!"


[05-Aug-20 03:33 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/ajimpact/trump-demand-cut-tiktok-microsoft-deal-lacks-precedent-200804191413499.html
> Trump said on Monday to reporters that the US "should get a very large percentage of that price because we're making it possible," adding that "we want and we think we deserve to have a big percentage of that price coming to America, coming to the Treasury."
wtf is this :roseconfused:


[05-Aug-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Extortion


[05-Aug-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
Chinese state media called it a smash and grab and you know what they're right


[05-Aug-20 03:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
what is a "grab and smash"


[05-Aug-20 03:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
a fleshlight?


[05-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Brazen and crude robbery


[05-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In a literal sense, it'd be walking into a store, smashing a glass display case, and grabbing whatever you can


[05-Aug-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Zomg explosions in a brown country??? That must clearly be terrism!
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[05-Aug-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
chinese state medias these days does nothing but reporting everything single word from Trump's mouth


[05-Aug-20 04:13 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
then cut some most classic quotes, post it everywhere again and again


[05-Aug-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
well, its free anti-american propaganda


[05-Aug-20 04:21 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
That's why all Chinese hope Trump can be reelected. He's quotes are much more interesting than Xi's

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[05-Aug-20 04:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
Quotations from Chairman Trump


[05-Aug-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Quotations from Your Mom While i Fuck Her Right in the Ass

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[05-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Quotations from President Kimbell


[05-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"AAAAAAAAAH"- President Kimball, thrown over Hoover Dam


[05-Aug-20 05:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[05-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1290623781485117445

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That mural the cops painted is a crime.”

i agree, it’s ugly

“No, it’s literally a crime.
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[05-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Crow#5457
when the police are so impatient they commit a crime rather than wait


[05-Aug-20 05:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[05-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cooking Simulator is fun, yes


[05-Aug-20 05:58 AM] jlun2#8758
> is we


[05-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[05-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/politics/elections/lacy-clay-cori-bush-race/63-ae40e3ac-12f5-4b70-aab3-e247529e1e6d

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Progressive activist Cori Bush beats 10-term U.S. Congressman Lacy ...
The seat had been held by a member of the Clay family for more than 50 years
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[05-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
New member of the Squad, I guess.


[05-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Crow#5457
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[05-Aug-20 06:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/iamartemisfowl/status/1290701321541124097

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BREAKING: #Beirut explosion has been reported to have been caused by well known Mossad operative Samuel Hydeburg. Be on the look out for this man. He is to be presumed armed and extremely dangerous.
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[05-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Phelan#7647
Can't keep getting away with it.


[05-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/04/us/chicago-officer-false-statements-roshad-mcintosh-death/index.html

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Chicago cop could be fired for lying about 19-year-old Black man's ...
Six years after a Black teenager was shot and killed by Chicago police, one of the officers involved could lose his badge.
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[05-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Lied to protect a dirty cop who killed a guy.


[05-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
*6 years later*, he *might* be only *fired* for it.


[05-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do this shit as anyone but a cop and you can face pretty fast consequences.


[05-Aug-20 07:03 AM] jlun2#8758
>  The seat had been held by a member of the Clay family for more than 50 years
:ponythinking:


[05-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dad held it from late 60s to 2001, then his son held it until now.


[05-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Synfag#9241
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[05-Aug-20 08:41 AM] Synfag#9241
> <https://twitter.com/iamartemisfowl/status/1290701321541124097>
@>That Guy 

isn't it Sami Al Hayidi?


[05-Aug-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
That image by framing an American socialist as bad using classist means (focusing on smelliness and health problems) while showing various communists as both highly separated and avoidant while being portrayed as high-class is really disingenuous.


[05-Aug-20 08:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's trying to pass itself off as being pro-socialist when it's really saying instead to all be separated nations and reject each other for being low class.


[05-Aug-20 09:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just a typical shitpost image of "Thing I disagree with is only believed by unsightly oafs"


[05-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
No I think that's giving it too much credit.


[05-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think it's very much meant to promote separation of races by nation.


[05-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a racist turd.


[05-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also the "haha Stalin and Marx would hate modern socialists" thing


[05-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does not deserve the status of shitpost.


[05-Aug-20 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah I don't think it's that


[05-Aug-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Look at the coloration.


[05-Aug-20 09:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "Proud socialists that respect themselves cringe at American ones"


[05-Aug-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The asian guys are yellow.


[05-Aug-20 09:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
For some reason the lower right has whiter kids than the father.


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And otherwise the coloration is the same between kids and father.


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not showing the mother for any, just the father.


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah I'm pretty sure this meme was about how every other form of socialism would look down on modern US socialists, that's the goal


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're still not very good at getting in the conservative mindset.


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Okay but I'm pretty sure this meme was designed to make fun of Americans saying Europeans are bad by showing them as ugly.


[05-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The image is very clearly made by someone who thinks women don't deserve rights and immigration should be illegal.


[05-Aug-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[05-Aug-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's not saying Americans are bad.


[05-Aug-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying leftists are.


[05-Aug-20 09:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying that communism is only respectable when it puts women in the kitchen and keeps the races apart.


[05-Aug-20 09:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[05-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that the left is bad because it tries to mix things.


[05-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the original


[05-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, racist.


[05-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Notice the eyes and skin color.


[05-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American is darker and has green eyes, in contrast to the Germans.


[05-Aug-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole implication is that it's wrong to mix races, Its.


[05-Aug-20 09:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying to stay pure and Aryan.


[05-Aug-20 09:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Well yeah, the origin is from the "56%" meme


[05-Aug-20 09:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Socialist one is just a snowclone


[05-Aug-20 09:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a snowclone that is intentionally preserving the original's sexist and racist messages.


[05-Aug-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The joke was "haha the American socialist is probably trans and talks about sex, other socialists around the world wouldn't like that"


[05-Aug-20 09:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah, no disagreement there


[05-Aug-20 09:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's basically just an attempt to disguise conservative propaganda as being pro-communist.


[05-Aug-20 09:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"If only the only people pushing for workers of the world to unite were white and only referring to white workers"


[05-Aug-20 09:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no no


[05-Aug-20 09:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
"If only the people pushing for workers to unite would stay in their own ethnostate and stop trying to mix things up by including gays, women, and other races, those stupid miscegenated freaks."


[05-Aug-20 09:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So a form of socialism that is based around your nationality.


[05-Aug-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[05-Aug-20 09:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We could call it something like National Socialism

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[05-Aug-20 09:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It implies by all the other socialists having their own style of dress and color that it's against uniting across nations.


[05-Aug-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, I think there is commonality between them, it's mocking the American socialist.


[05-Aug-20 09:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of them find the caricature repulsive.


[05-Aug-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well yes


[05-Aug-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
the entire point is America is inclusive


[05-Aug-20 09:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
and that that's wrong.


[05-Aug-20 09:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's saying that having men, women, gays, lesbians, straights, whites, and blakks all together is wrong and not true socialism.


[05-Aug-20 09:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't Sanders have that stance like a decade ago


[05-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[05-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Where he said bringing in foreign workers was bad


[05-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was only ever against easy immigration.


[05-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's always been for inclusivity within the country.


[05-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unlike a lot of people who call themselves "nationalists" instead.


[05-Aug-20 09:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's the stereotype that businesses push for inclusion to keep racial and ethnic tension high so no one unionizes etc


[05-Aug-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bernie practiced what a lot of "nationalists" preached.


[05-Aug-20 09:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, they make big talk about NO CONFLICT WITHIN COUNTRY but in practice they're itching to purge non-whites in the country etc.


[05-Aug-20 09:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's what makes Nazi althists so interesting, what do you do once you when you're a dog that catches your tail


[05-Aug-20 09:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess you just constantly talk about tails and call new things tails


[05-Aug-20 09:37 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1290897577739722753

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https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1290897577739722753
So they were attacking the truck and the guy threw his bike down in front of the truck for some odd reason #Portland https://t.co/TIUxuWVLDZ
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[05-Aug-20 09:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Peaceful protest amiright?


[05-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Opponent#3498
```That image by framing an American socialist as bad using classist means (focusing on smelliness and health problems) while showing various communists as both highly separated and avoidant while being portrayed as high-class is really disingenuous.```
High-class, maybe not, they are all triggered though :twismug:  Which is what the meme author was going for I imagine.


[05-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it's also reasonably accurate, far as memes go. That's the reaction you can expect from post-USSR/satellite states.


[05-Aug-20 10:16 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't the reaction to the modern iteration of the idea, mind. Just the label and first impression of it's bearers.


[05-Aug-20 10:16 AM] Opponent#3498
but that's plenty enough.


[05-Aug-20 10:17 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why noone discuss that video?Dude in a car was shoot at by "peaceful" protestors and yall just ignore it.


[05-Aug-20 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
because shit happens. Magnitude of order less often than police agression. Least that's the idea they're going for.
then again, taking an unfortunate exception and running with it is exactly the kind of thing that in different discourse would be used to justify gun control :derpchrys: So I'll leave defending this to Nebbie and co.


[05-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns are a severe systemic issue and the constant ignoring of that is not good.


[05-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not random shooters that is the big issue, but the *constant* influx of deaths from guns around the home, and from guns used to commit crimes on a daily basis.


[05-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And that includes the police shooting people over and over and over again.


[05-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a lot harder to actually kill people with a vehicle like shown in the video.


[05-Aug-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also you kind of need vehicles to get places. You do not in any way need a gun in your daily life, and it's banning the vehicle that'd be the equivalent here...there's nothing else you could do to make the situation safer.


[05-Aug-20 10:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
People in a big mob are going to do things with a herd mentality that leads to violence when there's anything less than extreme sheparding by very friendly police.


[05-Aug-20 10:53 AM] Synfag#9241
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/08/02/louisville-cuban-community-rallies-nulu-la-bodeguita-de-mima/5567470002/

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'We're not an enemy of the Black community': Cubans rally to suppor...
Members of Louisville's Cuban community gathered at La Bodeguita de Mima to support the immigrant-owned restaurant after Black Lives Matter demands.
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[05-Aug-20 10:55 AM] Synfag#9241
> *Some people sat on the steps of La Bodeguita de Mima and held signs that said, "We left Cuba because of socialism. Be careful what you wish for" and "Justice 4 all."*


[05-Aug-20 10:58 AM] wren#0114
baste


[05-Aug-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
and they don't actually give full text of the original 'demands'.


[05-Aug-20 11:35 AM] Opponent#3498
scummy, and par for the course.


[05-Aug-20 11:38 AM] wren#0114
https://www.scribd.com/document/471102642/Occupy-Nulu-Demands#from_embed

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Occupy Nulu Demands | Intersectionality | Sociological Theories
A list of demands put forth by Black Lives Matter protesters for business owners in Louisville's NuLu neighborhood.
https://imgv2-1-f.scribdassets.com/img/document/471102642/original/4522407b60/1596299883?v=1


[05-Aug-20 11:46 AM] Opponent#3498

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[05-Aug-20 11:47 AM] Opponent#3498
wow :D Off to a strong start.


[05-Aug-20 11:49 AM] Opponent#3498
'recurring monthly donations'. Nice.


[05-Aug-20 11:50 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah okay. I can see why people are _upset_ at this.


[05-Aug-20 11:51 AM] Opponent#3498
'Give us your shit'.


[05-Aug-20 11:51 AM] Opponent#3498
that's what it boils down to.


[05-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Opponent#3498

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[05-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I especially love that last one. The only empty threat on this list.


[05-Aug-20 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
if they actually could, they'd already would, wouldn't they :twismug:


[05-Aug-20 11:53 AM] Opponent#3498
and everything else is 'we'll cancel you'. Joy of joys.


[05-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Opponent#3498
'twitter mafia' is a suprisingly even-handed and accurate description for this.


[05-Aug-20 12:03 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I am sure they will be called "fake blm members" when they do something stupid like this.


[05-Aug-20 12:09 PM] Opponent#3498
also, thank you for the link @wren


[05-Aug-20 12:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They also were reported giving out pamplets.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8587881/Cuban-business-owner-Louisville-decries-BLMs-mafia-tactics.html

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Cuban business owner in Louisville decries BLM's 'mafia tactics'
The letter went out to business owners in East Market District in Louisville, also known as NuLu, during a protest on July 24 that forced some of the businesses in the area to close.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/03/16/31515076-0-image-a-26_1596470360463.jpg


[05-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```The BLM protesters in Louisville say the list was not a set of demands but that they want to start a conversation with local businesses. 

Some have agreed to their requests, they said. ```


[05-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Opponent#3498
:lul:


[05-Aug-20 01:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.ibtimes.com/joe-biden-has-slim-lead-over-donald-trump-texas-poll-says-3022585

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Joe Biden Has Slim Lead Over Donald Trump In Texas, Poll Says
A Morning Consult survey on Tuesday shows promising signs for both presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and Democratic Senate candidate MJ Hegar in Texas.
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[05-Aug-20 01:11 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/04/lindsey-graham-neck-and-neck-race-jaime-harrison-poll-finds/3292395001/

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Sen. Lindsey Graham holds one-point lead in tight SC race for reele...
The poll found Graham with a one-point lead in his quest for a fourth term, which is within the survey's 4-point margin of error.
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[05-Aug-20 01:17 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Gamers are the most oppressed group🤡 
https://gamerant.com/chinese-gamers-use-real-names/

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Chinese Gamers Will Soon Have To Play Using Their Real Names
China is nearly finished with a verification system that will require players to use their real names to check against ID numbers.
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[05-Aug-20 01:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Isn't it already used in South Korea to log in to MMORPGs and so on?


[05-Aug-20 01:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Nvidia needs split up.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-31/nvidia-said-in-advanced-talks-to-buy-softbank-s-chip-company-arm

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Nvidia in Advanced Talks to Buy SoftBank’s Chip Company Arm
Nvidia Corp. is in advanced talks to acquire Arm Ltd., the chip designer that SoftBank Group Corp. bought for $32 billion four years ago, according to people familiar with the matter.
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[05-Aug-20 01:27 PM] byte[]#2610
they bought mellanox last year


[05-Aug-20 01:27 PM] byte[]#2610
they want to get a stranglehold on enterprise networking and buying arm is the next step


[05-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Gamers are the second most oppressed group


[05-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Phelan#7647
Just below landlords


[05-Aug-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
keep in mind, nvidia buying arm would mean they own IP rights to almost every single commercially available router, switch, and modem


[05-Aug-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
as well as all your cell phones and tablets and most IoT devices

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[05-Aug-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
this is really bad news


[05-Aug-20 01:34 PM] byte[]#2610
since amd's psp is an arm core embedded inside the main chip, nvidia would also own IP rights to that


[05-Aug-20 01:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/f5KN9Ul.jpg

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Pretty good guess amirite?
https://i.imgur.com/f5KN9Ul.jpg


[05-Aug-20 01:54 PM] byte[]#2610
he def white


[05-Aug-20 01:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://boingboing.net/2020/08/03/man-who-fired-ak-47-at-cops-wa.html

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Rob Beschizza
https://boingboing.net/2020/08/03/man-who-fired-ak-47-at-cops-wa.html
Man who fired AK-47 at cops was "not handling the pandemic well", s...
A man who refused to wear a mask in a store, stole two cigars, fired a handgun at the clerk and later an AK-47 at cops coming to arrest him, injuring one of them, was “not handling the pandem…
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[05-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
bingo.


[05-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.imgur.com/U4NmBKN.jpg

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[05-Aug-20 02:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
U want this dude who shoot ak to be dead or what?
Cops kill=bad
Cops arrest=bad


[05-Aug-20 02:42 PM] byte[]#2610
no


[05-Aug-20 02:43 PM] byte[]#2610
we just expect that he would have been killed by police if he was black


[05-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we need DVR video to judge that


[05-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if they didnt shoot that guy he's probably surrender himself instead of going berserker


[05-Aug-20 02:47 PM] byte[]#2610
suppose he _was_ killed by the cops and there was no racial disparity in the treatment of suspects by the police


[05-Aug-20 02:48 PM] byte[]#2610
then we would have a different problem: why the fuck are the cops killing people?


[05-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1290415298097508353

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See Header (@InternetHippo)
https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1290415298097508353
i like when someone says it's normal for millennials to have no money because they're younger and they'll accumulate it over time, i've been in the workforce 10 years and i'm already on my second economic collapse dude
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[05-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Crow#5457
(the reason why the silent generation net worth is dropping so much is because they're dying)


[05-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1290783453676478467

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Art TakingBack 🇺🇸 (@ArtValley818_)
https://twitter.com/ArtValley818_/status/1290783453676478467
She’s on fire! 🔥🔥 https://t.co/q70PqYnoA5
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[05-Aug-20 03:18 PM] PwnyPony#6185
John Hume died this week.

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[05-Aug-20 04:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1290981920655003649?s=21

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Richard Stengel (@stengel)
https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1290981920655003649?s=21
Trump giving his convention speech on the South Lawn is the clearest conceivable violation of the Hatch Act. 100s of White House staffers would be violating it, not to mention charges of criminal appropriation of Congressional funds for political purposes. https://t.co/10Y5TH...
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[05-Aug-20 04:28 PM] wren#0114
how would it be violating the hatch act?


[05-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
White House staff is not allowed in political campaigns.


[05-Aug-20 04:31 PM] wren#0114
that applies if they're attending for support or attending for opposition (while on duty or in official uniform)


[05-Aug-20 04:32 PM] wren#0114
but staff standing there running the facilities, that's not part of hatch act


[05-Aug-20 04:32 PM] wren#0114
as far as I can tell


[05-Aug-20 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
:fockingsour:


[05-Aug-20 05:34 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/05/the-best-job-in-america-or-a-living-nightmare-391603

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Governors find their moment — and peril
The political stars of the pandemic are facing nearly unprecedented challenges in the months ahead.
https://static.politico.com/01/b0/b6f72e304611873d9e08a3502ff4/200804-thefiftylaunch-politico-773.jpg


[05-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh can we ban videos of the rich saying their lives are hard.


[05-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Aug-20 06:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why ban something if nobody takes it seriously?


[05-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because it's condescending.


[05-Aug-20 06:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
Ignore them.


[05-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But blood boils just at sight of these


[05-Aug-20 07:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
~~I might have been a retard and momentarily not realized that last comment was ironic~~


[05-Aug-20 07:33 PM] byte[]#2610
every crowd of satirists attracts stupid people who genuinely believe it


[05-Aug-20 07:38 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/j8eaunjik6f51.jpg

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[05-Aug-20 07:43 PM] byte[]#2610
subreddit: bans users for using slur
users: https://i.redd.it/285uqshb76f51.png

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[05-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
subreddits were always gatekeeper syndrome galore


[05-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
no reason to get excited


[05-Aug-20 07:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
>using reddit


[05-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Marukomuru#8409
>bans users for using slurs
>*[SCORE HIDDEN]*


[05-Aug-20 07:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Y'all motherfuckers weak.
***Weak.***


[05-Aug-20 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
that's a per-sub setting


[05-Aug-20 07:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[05-Aug-20 07:47 PM] byte[]#2610
not per-user


[05-Aug-20 07:48 PM] byte[]#2610
the idea is to stop brigading


[05-Aug-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
smh, can't believe someone was asked to not be a massive cunt, the nerve of some authoritarians


[05-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I saw it as "we don't want users feelings to be hurt when their bad take(s) end up with a -503 score".
Kinda like DA back in the day having an option to hide pageviews. Because *feelings*.


[05-Aug-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the score is only hidden temporarily (a few hours, configurable per sub)


[05-Aug-20 07:51 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Also don't they have algorithms in place to mitigate brigading? If not, shouldn't they?


[05-Aug-20 07:51 PM] byte[]#2610
downvotes still affect karma and still affect the ranking of the comment, it's just not directly visible until the timeout expires


[05-Aug-20 07:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure they do lmao

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[05-Aug-20 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Aug-20 07:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Aug-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And you thought your 2020 was bad


[05-Aug-20 07:53 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Christ


[05-Aug-20 07:54 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/condoleezza-rice-assuming-how-black-people-should-think-is-problem-of-the-left
typical WE garbage

Condoleezza Rice: Assuming how black people should think is 'problem of the Left'
Black people: maybe Condoleezza Rice should stop assuming how we think

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Condoleezza Rice: Assuming how black people should think is 'proble...
Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice thinks some are too quick to assume how black people should think politically, adding that such conclusions are made especially among liberals.
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[05-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Word of authority from a war criminal I guess


[05-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
*Astrologers proclaim the month of explosions.*


[05-Aug-20 07:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
She has a point though.
Not really "the left" though, just Democratic liberals.


[05-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/510402-afraid-to-speak-your-mind-maybe-were-not-as-free-as-we-think

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Afraid to speak your mind? Maybe we're not as 'free' as we think
Just because we still have free-speech rights doesn’t mean we feel free to say what’s on our minds.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/protests_new_york_07302020_1.jpg


[05-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What do these people want


[05-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thirty-six percent of Americans who identify as “strong conservatives” think it’s okay to fire an executive for donating his or her own money to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign. Self-described “strong conservatives” — the very people railing against the cancel culture — think it’s okay to fire an executive simply for donating personal money to Biden’s campaign."


[05-Aug-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
> Cato says this fear crosses party lines: 52 percent of Democrats have opinions they’re afraid to share, 59 percent of independents feel that way, and so do a staggering 77 percent of Republicans.


[05-Aug-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
> “Taking these results together indicates that a significant majority of Americans with diverse political views and backgrounds self-censor their political opinions,” according to Cato. “This large number from across demographic groups suggests withheld opinions may not simply be radical or fringe perspectives in the process of being socially marginalized. Instead, many of these opinions may be shared by a large number of people. Opinions so widely shared are likely shaping how people think about salient policy issues and ultimately impacting how they vote. But if people feel they cannot discuss these important policy matters, such views will not have an opportunity to be scrutinized, understood, or reformed.”


[05-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course no one wants to share an opinion when everyone pounces on it to ruin you ASAP


[05-Aug-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
twitter killed nuance


[05-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, some people's views are just "fucking spics stealing american jobs!"


[05-Aug-20 08:28 PM] wren#0114
but not these percentages amount


[05-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think it's socially acceptable to most to try to get people fired for shit they say on social media


[05-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just my observation of what happens when it happens


[05-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it _is_ informational civil war, after all.


[05-Aug-20 08:30 PM] wren#0114
this is why I avoid social media like the plague


[05-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Considering how much shit people get on twitter every day I don't understand how anyone sane continues using it for anything other than porn or memes


[05-Aug-20 08:43 PM] jlun2#8758
^
how do ppl get addicted to twitter tbh
if i wanted to blab i go into pony chats


[05-Aug-20 08:46 PM] wren#0114
because you can see the views/impressions on all your tweets


[05-Aug-20 08:47 PM] wren#0114
it's like checking your derpi uploads for a couple days after uploading something, and when you refresh the page you get dopamine from the chance that there could be more votes or comments


[05-Aug-20 08:48 PM] wren#0114
but even more because you can see analytics of views and clicks to expand content, and clicks to go to your profile


[05-Aug-20 08:50 PM] jlun2#8758
no one except that 1 single word bg pony comments on my stuff :wheeze:


[05-Aug-20 08:50 PM] wren#0114
rippp


[05-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Do they comment n||ickel||


[05-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking conservatives want quiet dismissal of anyone who expresses that women should be listened to.


[05-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
They aren't against canceling.


[05-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They just want it behind closed doors and targeting liberals.


[05-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not _all_ conservatives


[05-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are very few conservatives who actually want people to not be gone after at all for views.


[05-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean the women bit


[05-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sexism is a lot more common than you might think still.


[05-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, some might prioritize racial stuff to the point of barely caring about treating women well, but they'll still get annoyed when people are fired for sexual harassment etc.


[05-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
how do you people define sexual harassment btw?


[05-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it seems to be yet another US-only fad, at least in practical implementation of the concept.


[05-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[05-Aug-20 09:52 PM] wren#0114
where are you getting this from


[05-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt ideas of "women shouldn't work, they should stay home and take care of the business there" is a uniquely US thing


[05-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I only ever hear this stuff in context of US. Maybe you're so enlightened and far ahead of everyone else, maybe it's another thing to pass the time like twitter rage.


[05-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nor "oh, you're pretty smart! For a girl"


[05-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nor the whole holding a door or vacating a seat for a woman, but not for a man thing


[05-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, no, that absolutely is not. In fact, West has it better than the rest of the world, in terms of accepting women as equals.


[05-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's this conservative talking point, it has some name but basically boils down to


[05-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not what I was asking about though. Is _this_ what is sexual harassment defined as?


[05-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm interested in the term itself right now.


[05-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Conservatives will never cast someone out of a group for a liberal viewpoint, but liberals will do the inverse. Any group of mixed ideologies will become liberal over time, a liberal group will become even more liberal, and even conservative groups will become liberal"


[05-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
sexual harassment is more about crude jokes, insinuations, or outright demand for sexual favours in the workplace


[05-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember seeing this recently in the context of SCOTUS, how someone was pointing out how the liberal bloc supposedly "never" are swing votes


[05-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Men in their 30-40s still making lists and talking about which girls in the office they'd like to bend over a desk and fuck in the ass, or how tight they think they are


[05-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
Loudly, in front of the receptionist's desk.


[05-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or how a girl that doesn't show enough cleavage is clearly a bitch


[05-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Nebbie#8545
And slapping the ass of the ones that are 10s etc.

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[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] wren#0114
where


[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] wren#0114
that gets you fired so quick, unless it's an entrenched elitist industry like hollywood or media

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[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say shit like holywood for starters


[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about elitism.


[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems like that place has a story about that every other day


[05-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any position with lots of money is prone to this.


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people feel entitled.


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Entitled people tend to be inconsiderate.


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
there's not many places with lots of money though.


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Offices, especially at financial institutions.


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
and those come with their own sets of rules, divorced from the rest of society


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I imagine financial institutions and "boys club" places like firms with 200 years of history where it's just nepotism from the mailroom to the 20 redundant VPs


[05-Aug-20 09:59 PM] wren#0114
and influential people attract people who will put up with that in order to get a chance at elevated status themselves


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also politicians and their staff.


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point isn't that this is super crazy common.


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
The point is conservatives will defend it as being not a big deal.


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] wren#0114
proof?


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
In order to drive women out of positions that yield high incomes.


[05-Aug-20 10:00 PM] wren#0114
what


[05-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been privileged to work in places where dudes come in with fishnet shirts and nipple piercings poking through way-too-tight tanktops


[05-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
that sounds like fun.


[05-Aug-20 10:04 PM] jlun2#8758
whats your job to see
> dudes come in with fishnet shirts and nipple piercings poking through way-too-tight tanktops
@Teaspoon


[05-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
https://d279m997dpfwgl.cloudfront.net/wp/2018/12/Bentley-CWB-Pipeline-Research-Report-Fall-2018.pdf


[05-Aug-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
the only time i see that is in derpi


[05-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I write shitposts and fuck with excel sheets all day


[05-Aug-20 10:06 PM] wren#0114
thx for the pdf, queued for after sleepy time


[05-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Of note, 'Being “the only one” can have a profound negative impact on a woman’s workplace experience. Only’s experience more micro-aggressions than women as a whole, 80 percent versus 64 percent, and are almost twice as likely to be sexually harassed at work.'


[05-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bunch of guys plus one woman virtually guarantees sexual harrassment.


[05-Aug-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
> I write shitposts
are u a memeologist


[05-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Nebbie#8545
And women drop off as you go up the corporate ladder.


[05-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You know all those videogames that have random items you pick up with like 3 paragraphs of lore you just click "OK" on so you can continue chopping heads or whatever?


[05-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I write those

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[05-Aug-20 10:08 PM] wren#0114
extremely based


[05-Aug-20 10:09 PM] jlun2#8758
nice. do you sneak stuff in


[05-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And also do balancing and stats and whatnot, thus excel


[05-Aug-20 10:09 PM] wren#0114
I read those ||sometimes||


[05-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Eh, sometimes; stuff that's too on the nose is cringey, and given dev times, "memes" get dated super fast


[05-Aug-20 10:10 PM] wren#0114
ponies though


[05-Aug-20 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
eg. this was snuck into runescape once: <https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/3cgs4s/exrs_content_developer_on_the_origins_of_desert/>
> like Monks of Zamorak shouting "allah allah akbar zamorak" when they attacked
its gone now tho


[05-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>TSP is the person who writes memes in flavor text


[05-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[05-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't >:[


[05-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I actually like memes in games like that, instantly dates the game and that's a good thing


[05-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex games from the mid 00s that have leetspeak


[05-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
oh god


[05-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the awful Zelda translation that had a doge reference


[05-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh the only "meme" type stuff I put in is legit old stuff from the 80s or 90s, stuff that survived the cringe filter and just became accepted pop culture


[05-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd just put loss references in


[05-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess at this point Loss has survived the test of time


[05-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
12 years ago already


[05-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
huh. I've only heard about it here, so a year ago give or take


[05-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
didn't realise it's actually that old.


[05-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
it's still dumb, meaningless and unfunny though.


[05-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's only remembered because of the Streisand Effect, similar to why FiM became popular


[05-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Mods/janitors banned it on /v/ so a whole subculture of subtle lossposting arose, and then the rest is history


[06-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/trump-boasts-about-getting-through-professor-layton-games-without-too-much-help/

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Mark Roebuck
https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/trump-boasts-about-getting-through-professor-layton-games-without-too-much-help/
Trump Boasts About Getting Through Professor Layton Games “Without ...
President Donald Trump recently boasted about the minimal help he needed beating the entire series of Professor Layton games this summer.
https://thehardtimes.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/professor-layton.jpg


[06-Aug-20 12:14 AM] jlun2#8758
its clearly fake; a real article would have him talk about how prof. layton causes school shooting


[06-Aug-20 12:16 AM] jimm#1439

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[06-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hate when that happens


[06-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If ever you need an example of people voting against their own interests

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[06-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The metros all voted for it, rural areas rejected it...even though it primarily benefits rural parts of the state.


[06-Aug-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
i suppose they dont see them as "low income"?
ie. https://observer.com/2018/05/everyone-identifies-as-middle-class-definitions-explain-why/

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Here’s Why Almost Everyone Thinks They Are Part of the Middle Class
Even among leading economists, the definition of “middle class” is a blur.
https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/05/jose-moreno-196356-unsplash.jpg?quality=80&strip


[06-Aug-20 12:23 AM] jlun2#8758
you can be a beggar & say "im middle class, not lower income"

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[06-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://jacobinmag.com/2020/07/open-container-public-drinking

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Let Us Drink in Public
Open container laws criminalize working-class people and make public life less fun. We need to legalize public drinking.
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[06-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://cdn.cms.prod.nypr.digital/images/Visual-Facts-Alcohol-Summonses.2e16d0ba.fill-634x772.jpg

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[06-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
what is 'summonses'?


[06-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
The plural of summons.


[06-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
"A court summons".


[06-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, this is very much a "white people get away with it because nobody arrests them"


[06-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
You see a white guy drinking beer, you aren't going to call the cops.


[06-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's even many restaurants that serve alcohol outside.


[06-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which white people can afford to go to.


[06-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minorities? They get seen with a beer bottle sitting on the curb, the only place to go, and people rush to dial 911.


[06-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
One of the most wrong SCOTUS decisions was that it's not discriminatory to arrest people for public drunkenness.


[06-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
(in relation to homelessness; SCOTUS in an earlier case decided you couldn't be arrested just for having needle marks because that'd be discrimination against addicts...)


[06-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
The difference is race.


[06-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
White people shoot up.


[06-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk people drink beer on the curb.


[06-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't arrest someone for quite clear evidence of doing the latter, which is illegal regardless of where it happens, even if it shows tons of marks.


[06-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can arrest someone for being outside with evidence of them doing the latter recently.


[06-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Marches[45]#0674
“Nobody arrests them because they’re not doing anything wrong.” /s


[06-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's non-sarcastically the argument.


[06-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
That white people getting drunk isn't a problem.


[06-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that blakk people getting drunk is.


[06-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's all based around the idea that *anyone* can "just go home or stay in the bar"


[06-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the bars will throw out blakks faster, and home is a less stable place for them.


[06-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
We make it so minorities don't want to go home at night, then when they're out on the streets, we say that if they weren't up to something, they'd be home. It's a trap. A really awful trap that drives kids to crime and then to jail.


[06-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I wonder how long Magpul could spend in here before he peaced out more sure of his own positions’ righteousness or got thoroughly trounced.


[06-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, still no Biden VP pick


[06-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Supposedly down to Harris and Rice


[06-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So Harris.


[06-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1291171045291044866?s=21

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BREAKING: Los Angeles Mayor says he will order water and power utilities to be shut off at homes hosting parties
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[06-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Good.


[06-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is an awful choice. Probably what Biden would choose himself.


[06-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rice is likely what his staff will say.


[06-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And bring back Benghazi talk?


[06-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess we'll know super soon, but yeah, Harris would be a mistake.


[06-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah yes https://www.ky3.com/2020/08/05/wipes-causing-more-blockage-in-sewage-lines-in-springfield/

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Wipes causing more blockage in sewage lines in Springfield
Since the start of the pandemic, Springfield's Treatment Plant is seeing more debris in sewage lines.
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[06-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wipe down the counter, then your butthole, then flush.


[06-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
The American way to clean.


[06-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also


[06-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/05/republicans-susan-rice-vice-president-391480

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‘She is absolutely our No. 1 draft pick’: GOP pines for Rice as Bid...
Trump supporters say the former UN ambassador would supercharge the president's base.
https://static.politico.com/8a/35/07a62b9e4d29a533743cbadbef6a/20200804-susanrice-gty-773.jpg


[06-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What can you really complain about with Harris?


[06-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives will be mad she was a prosecutor but whatever


[06-Aug-20 03:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Toilet paper is designed to fall apart when it gets wet


[06-Aug-20 03:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Wipes are very strong because they are stored wet and should not be flushed


[06-Aug-20 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Most of the "dirt" I could find that surfaced from her run for president related to that campaign itself


[06-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking a prosecutor who tried to illegally keep minorities in jail.


[06-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think that's a good idea right now?


[06-Aug-20 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The most notable things I could find were her smack-talking Trump and Gabbard, and the moment onstage at a debate when Joe Biden literally forgot she was a senator and that he'd endorsed her


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/08/justice-honesty-government-prosecutor-column/24611623/

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Prosecutors protect themselves first: Column
When prosecutors lie and falsify evidence, 'absolute immunity' protects them from justice.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/5654b8f34809059e8a633fb51db9cf2b354a1325/c=0-486-4895-3252/local/-/media/2015/03/08/USATODAY/USATODAY/635614258351665271-AP-CALIFORNIA-ATTORNEY-GENERAL-69798830.JPG?width=3200&height=1809&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
'When the trial judge found out, charges against the defendant were dismissed. Incredibly, the State of California, via Attorney General Kamala Harris, decided to appeal the case. The state's key argument: That putting a fake confession in the transcript wasn't "outrageous" because it didn't involve physical brutality, like chaining someone to a radiator and beating him with a hose.'


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That and her half-baked healthcare reform which was at least a little better than Biden's quarter-baked idea


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Seriously, DO NOT DISMISS THIS


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the SHITTIEST THING


[06-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
A PERSON CAN DO IN OFFICE.


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is political ARSENIC.


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not want Joe Biden to drink it.


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Right, good to know


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You also do not want the prospect of her as president.


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do you see any better options


[06-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rice.


[06-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president's base doesn't matter.


[06-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'll vote for Trump.


[06-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dems want a VP pikk the president's base hates.


[06-Aug-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they're also going for affirmative action brownie points by the look of it


[06-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to appease Trump voters, who literally want blakk people killed, is pointless.


[06-Aug-20 03:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, it seems like the entire DNC decided that the most important qualifications for a VP pick is that you are black and that you are female, everything else is gravy


[06-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well you kind of need to pikk someone like that or else you open things up to "well how the hell are you less racist and sexist?"


[06-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden needs to show he can involve someone whose own self-interest might work towards equality.


[06-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
If Biden wants to dodge all the baggage, pull in Karen Bass.


[06-Aug-20 03:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, Rice has a ton of baggage (ironically) from being the one to come clean about the real motives behind the iraq war


[06-Aug-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think that'll be the angle she'll be attacked on hardest


[06-Aug-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
her involvement in that administration, that is


[06-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well it's *Biden*.


[06-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't exactly say he wasn't involved anyways.


[06-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He might as well double down and say he stands by most of the decisions bla bla bla.


[06-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wear it like armor.


[06-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Treascair#7785
> Do you see any better options
@WingbeatPony 

Tammy Duckworth comes to mind.


[06-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Karen Bass is poison to Cuban-Americans.


[06-Aug-20 03:51 AM] jlun2#8758
Karen bass? :siren:


[06-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, IIRC.


[06-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Saying anything positive about Cuba in 2020 is basically grounds for the DNC to cancel anything related to you being president/VP


[06-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gotta win those South Florida Cuban-American Boomers.


[06-Aug-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pentagon-officials-say-trump-was-talking-nonsense-when-he-called-beirut-explosion-an-attack

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Pentagon Officials Say Trump Was Talking Nonsense When He Called Be...
Trump baselessly described the explosion as a “terrible attack” with a “bomb of some kind.”
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[06-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Crow#5457
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[06-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maaan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA
Portland Protest
Some coverage from protests on the streets of Portland, Oregon, where demonstrators faced off with federal agents from the Department of Homeland Security.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7zthJUf31MA/maxresdefault.jpg


[06-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty much he just goes around interviewing people and everyone's crazy.


[06-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not like, smash a vehicle crazy, just weird.


[06-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/us/politics/kanye-west-president-republicans.html#click=https://t.co/ogru275pTO

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Republicans Aid Kanye West’s Bid to Get on the 2020 Ballot
Republican activists in at least half a dozen states are deeply involved in the effort to get Kanye West’s name before voters, renewing questions about the aim of his campaign.
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[06-Aug-20 05:38 AM] jlun2#8758
let me guess. he helps trump win


[06-Aug-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[06-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
West is severely mentally ill and it's sad to see so many taking advantage of him.


[06-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He needs help, whether he agrees to it or not.


[06-Aug-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
hes totally going to be ignored after trump wins


[06-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Yes, black people who disagree with you politically are mentally ill


[06-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Kanye has inconsistent political views and an apparent need to stir controversy to gain attention.


[06-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Sounds right.


[06-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Pontology#1010
Doesn't sound like severe mental illness.


[06-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do keep in mind this is the "Imma let you finish" guy.


[06-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Pontology#1010
I'm no kanye fan


[06-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not about being a fan or not.


[06-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's that he has trouble controlling himself.


[06-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Pontology#1010
:shrug:


[06-Aug-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Does nobody remember Fishsticks


[06-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Pontology#1010
I want to put fishsticks in my mouth


[06-Aug-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
are you a gay fish?


[06-Aug-20 05:49 AM] jlun2#8758
i live under a rock


[06-Aug-20 05:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Did Trump just said BLM protesters are Marxism group?


[06-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's diagnosed as bipolar, but okay.


[06-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m diagnosed as bipolar


[06-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And look at me


[06-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>BLM fight for blacks;
>Marxists fight for proletarians;
>BLM are Marxists;

Conclusion: blacks are proletarians

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[06-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Conclusion is actually correct.


[06-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were literally brought to the continent as rightsless laborers.


[06-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
And the South has continually fought to keep them in a role at least similar to that.


[06-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason MLK was socialist.


[06-Aug-20 06:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Since the conclusion is correct, we can reason it backwards
>BLM fight for blacks;
>Marxists fight for proletarians;
>Blacks are proletarians;

Conclusion: BLM are Marxists


[06-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how logic works.


[06-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
If P implies Q, and you see Q, that doesn't mean P, something else could imply Q.


[06-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Serenity#9645
are alot of BLM leaders self proclaimed marxists?


[06-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably, but I wouldn't expect much actual leadership in something like this.


[06-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, I don't think there's any central authority to say who is a leader.


[06-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you get random assholes with megaphones.


[06-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
One day it's a marxist, the next it's a conspiracy nut who thinks DA JEWS are controlling the police.


[06-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same deal as Antifa and Anonymous. You could just show up and claim to be part of it and...that's basically that.


[06-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
isnt BLM a well established organization thing with funding? thus they should speak out against the people using their name in ways against the organization and thus seperating themselves from the fringe weirdo with a microphone. i seriously havent seen that and would like to know of that if you have it. also anonymous has leaders of cells like antifa has cells like rose city antifa. its a ideal but has organization groups. antifa isnt a terror organization but cells can be.


[06-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's decentralized.


[06-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can't control who is and is not a member.


[06-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any weirdo with a microphone can be part of it.


[06-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same with the other two.


[06-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't disallow someone from being Anonymous, Antifa, or BLM.


[06-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
They can just say they are.


[06-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's organizational structures, sure, but hardly anyone cares to follow them.


[06-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Serenity#9645
i understand that, but they can say wierdo with a microphone saying "defund the police" or "bring police and community together" decrying what they stand against


[06-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But why bother?


[06-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's extra hassle to try to distance from someone in particular.


[06-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially when that someone is vaguely on-message.


[06-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire reason they maintain inertia in this is that they allow pretty much any weirdo to come along, which results in strength in numbers.


[06-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The *entire point* is that you can't arrest them all. Like, literally physically cannot.


[06-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
well antifa has cells and people do follow them, they (the cell) can be a terror orginisation instead of a protest against the third way, a peaceful protest


[06-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to be kikked out of Antifa.


[06-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Serenity#9645
not from seperating from one person, from the idea of what he said, so when someone says it they know its not a actual BLM supporter


[06-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's pointless.


[06-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like saying "HE'S NOT A REAL LIBERAL!"


[06-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes sure, I'm going to go to my COUNCIL OF LIBERALS to decide who can not call themselves a liberal.


[06-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
We'll call a vote of all elder liberals in the area, and do a 12-step process to strip membership.


[06-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Serenity#9645
how so? if they put out a anouncement saying as the BLM group that you send money to, we do not want to abolish the police and anyone saying so is not standing for the ideals of bringing community and police together


[06-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would hurt their overall message.


[06-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
More crazies = more support, as long as they're anywhere close to the main message.


[06-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having an ideological purge of anyone that doesn't fully agree with your core message's particulars is highly counterproductive.


[06-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Serenity#9645
how? its hurting from not knowing what they want. i want community and police to live together. but i dont want to abolish. if i donate what do i donate for something against what i belive?


[06-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't need your money.


[06-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is they don't need any money to do this. They're a social movement.


[06-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
then why raise so much money? are they scamming people?


[06-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Money can help with some things, and I doubt it's a scam.


[06-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that money isn't the main point.


[06-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Purging people for not being exactly the line hurts more than losing potential money they could've gotten.


[06-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Serenity#9645
then what do they stand for? why should i donate to a cause i dont know where their stance is? it was what 2013 they were created (correct me if im wrong) and id love to support programs to get police involved in the comminity to ease tentions and have security. not abolish the police, i cant spend the money on private security when the mob says i didnt donate nor put a BLM flag in my home or business or please dont hurt me im gay painted on the door thus i dont believe black lives matter so im a supremist


[06-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
They stand for...blakk lives mattering? I mean, it's in the name.


[06-Aug-20 07:19 AM] jlun2#8758
> Yes sure, I'm going to go to my COUNCIL OF LIBERALS to decide who can not call themselves a liberal.
> We'll call a vote of all elder liberals in the area, and do a 12-step process to strip membership.
you're joking but im sure some ppl legit think that way


[06-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a lot of particular things under that, but the core premise is to say "hey maybe we shouldn't treat police killing blakk people as just normal business".


[06-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
And if you think blakk lives *don't* matter, well, that would indeed make you a racist unless you think *no* lives matter.


[06-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
The whole thing about having to hav a flag or whatever is just a bunch of fear nonsense.


[06-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Serenity#9645
people saying they are part of BLM made a contract in a neighborhood that you support finatually  or we will ruin your business, one of a cuban 1st gen immigrant. BLM please say this isnt what your for as a profiting group. they are under a microscope with millions in donations but dont speak out.


[06-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that's typical or "approved" or such.


[06-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you seem to be saying that this one alleged thing is somehow mandated by a central thing.


[06-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that's outright misunderstanding the structure.


[06-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think anyone has the *power* to compel a local BLM group to rakketeer.


[06-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Serenity#9645
also liberal like antifa or conservatism is a ideal i fall under liberal, i want people to do right and inform people of our intentions to progress to a place that all people are created equal and have equal opportunity under the law, in my group of liberalism same as your group whatever it is.
 but with exploiting a entire area of business under my namesake of ideals. id be the first to say i dont condone the idea of exploiting businesses for profits.
id put out if i was a BLM leader that we do not condone the people who use mafia style tactics, or will ever condone violence to achive our rights under the 1st amendment and to make reform and help in the process of said reform and healing.


[06-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Serenity#9645
what i see is not liberal. i see riots and only few disowning them. i believe in police reform from signs and speaking up and even minor civil disobedience, a slap on the wrist charge like obstructing a highway, but as individuals about how can it be solved to achieve the greatest result for not only us but all people.
a good debate regardless of skin, orientation, or national origin. not this wierd get rid of white culture or black supremacy stuff or cringy reparations. i dont want your money i dont want the pity, i want to be standing side by side and working for my share same as everyone else.
i feel like thats rewinding the clock of everything back to a atrocities that should never have happened but is a important thing to learn about not calling equal opportunity advocates racist to upturn civil rights progression we fight so hard for to replace it with a race based system again.


[06-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Serenity#9645
well i had my ted talk im going to head off to bed sorry its super late


[06-Aug-20 09:51 AM] Synfag#9241

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[06-Aug-20 09:55 AM] Opponent#3498
```Yes sure, I'm going to go to my COUNCIL OF LIBERALS to decide who can not call themselves a liberal.
We'll call a vote of all elder liberals in the area, and do a 12-step process to strip membership.```


[06-Aug-20 09:55 AM] Opponent#3498
that sounds suprisingly like something Alex Jones would say :twismug:


[06-Aug-20 09:55 AM] Crow#5457
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That's the joke - Ranier Wolfcastle as McBain in The Simpsons
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[06-Aug-20 10:16 AM] Opponent#3498
@Synfag chinese and interracial marriage, that's a thing I've heard before, from around here. Like, a black guy comes here to live, he won't marry a black woman, more often than not he'd find a local, that's easier, all things considered. With chinese, that's different, there's enough of them that they'd try to marry their own and stay within their community, always.


[06-Aug-20 10:16 AM] Opponent#3498
granted, I have little to none personal experience interacting with our chinese community.


[06-Aug-20 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
@Serenity I think the solution is easy. Yeah, you support the ideals. You retweet shit and comment on it. But you don't fixate on the flag, that's the major US fault right now, across the board.


[06-Aug-20 10:18 AM] Opponent#3498
if you want to donate, pick a specific service like, I dunno, food relief, medical, education, something, not a vague black hole of a leaderless network.


[06-Aug-20 10:20 AM] Opponent#3498
if you disagree with something, use your 1st. Make a statement about it if you got a soapbox, specify how that's against the core ideal, people might listen. This isn't the elections, where you're forced to vote for a mummified corpse sustained by sniffing the living. The joys of decentralised movement is, you can _pick_ what you support without breaking away from the overall umbrella.


[06-Aug-20 10:21 AM] Opponent#3498
and if they come for you or act as an adversary, well. Return that in kind. The flag becomes irrelevant then.


[06-Aug-20 10:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
are chuds really just posting around screenshots of me half shitposting and having fun with ol' luna (not nebbie the other one) out of a rage boner here?

give your culture warring a break lol, I got some rando DMing me on db


[06-Aug-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
or is it /mlp/ seething again and posting old rage bait?


[06-Aug-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
like jesus christ I'm an irrelevant literally who, who do you people think I am?


[06-Aug-20 10:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't you know, we're all hardcore violent marxists just waiting for the call to literally set small family businesses on fire


[06-Aug-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
you got any fun harrassment lately?


[06-Aug-20 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everything people say online is 100% serious and a factual snapshot of their person and intent


[06-Aug-20 10:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
they love to ignore how much violent right wing terrorism resulting in death, injuries, bombing, ect that happens on a scale that makes islamic terrorism start to not look that big of a deal


[06-Aug-20 10:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Other than patachu going around faking convo screenshots, poorly, nothing that I've been made aware of


[06-Aug-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
but antifa punches people sometimes or throws an empty glass bottle at cops who are gassing them and that's equal or something


[06-Aug-20 10:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That said I don't go looking for things to be mad about, and I'm quite sure reeeing about my continued existence is still popular in some circlejerks


[06-Aug-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, patachu is a wild one, very gaslighty, loves to make fake LARP accounts to strawman people he disagrees with, very free speech


[06-Aug-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not even mad I'm just like? You people are mentally ill, this drama is long over, what are you on about?


[06-Aug-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
like this is pathological shit


[06-Aug-20 10:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
like call me back when we ebil marxists have killed 1/10th of the people far right white people be murdering


[06-Aug-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway I was told the screenshots were posted here but I don't see them anywhere


[06-Aug-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm being asked to refer to half-shitposty comments I barely remember and what I meant lmao


[06-Aug-20 10:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not while I was online, at least, and heard no talk of it either


[06-Aug-20 10:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
hmm yes, literally who loud leftist, the representative for that one mod you don't like who had a spine


[06-Aug-20 10:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
like I don't speak on her behalf lmao


[06-Aug-20 10:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe it was in the secret channel where us confirmed BML-Antifa stormtroopers coordinate for our next hits


[06-Aug-20 10:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
perhaps


[06-Aug-20 10:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'ma see if I can find the butthurt /mlp/ thread to mine salt from


[06-Aug-20 10:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Reminds me I gotta renew my membership card, will need to relearn the Soros pledge


[06-Aug-20 10:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
I never got any damn checks, must be fuckin US exclusivity


[06-Aug-20 10:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can't even get a blue check on twitter, let alone money for this smh


[06-Aug-20 10:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
hmm, so the message was like 3 hours ago, and can't find anything within 6 hours from now, I wanna know what the fuck they're even referring to thanks


[06-Aug-20 10:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP really that desperate, huh
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/akzy3b/a-well-connected-gop-strategist-is-helping-kanye-west-get-on-the-ballot-in-wisconsin

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A Well-Connected GOP Strategist Is Helping Kanye West Get on the Ba...
Lane Ruhland filed West’s filing paperwork and signatures on Tuesday. She’s also representing President Donald Trump in court.
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[06-Aug-20 10:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That interview was amazing


[06-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hopefully leads to more interviewers actually interviewing and not just letting Trump ramble around as he pleases


[06-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though most likely the result is Trump's handlers won't let him do any more interviews

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[06-Aug-20 10:49 AM] Opponent#3498
so it's win-win.


[06-Aug-20 10:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg3_kUaYFJA

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Weidmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg3_kUaYFJA
The Whitest Kids U' Know - I want to kill the president
The Whitest Kids U' Know - I want to kill the president (S01E06) con subtítulos en Español.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eg3_kUaYFJA/sddefault.jpg


[06-Aug-20 11:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[06-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Crow#5457
||check out the math on it||


[06-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[06-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/05/899525589/louisiana-supreme-court-wont-review-life-sentence-for-man-who-stole-hedge-clippe

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Louisiana Supreme Court Won't Review Life Sentence For Man Who Stol...
In a dissent, Chief Justice Bernette Johnson compared Fair Wayne Bryant's sentence to "Pig Laws" in the years after Reconstruction, which enacted harsh penalties for theft and other petty crimes.
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[06-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Opponent#3498
well to be fair the guy has 0 chance at anything resembling a normal life now.


[06-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yes, even multiple accounts of petty theft warranting a life sentence... That's a pretty epic fail.


[06-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[06-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
it also doesn't solve anything at all and costs money.


[06-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://nbc-2.com/news/state/2020/08/05/governor-desantis-admits-floridas-unemployment-system-was-designed-to-not-pay-out-claims/

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https://nbc-2.com/news/state/2020/08/05/governor-desantis-admits-floridas-unemployment-system-was-designed-to-not-pay-out-claims/
Governor DeSantis admits Florida's unemployment system was designed...
Now, the DeSantis Administration is preparing to award more than $130 million contract to the same company in charge of the troubled unemployment system.
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[06-Aug-20 12:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Florida designed their unemployment system to be as hostile and convoluted as possible in order for it to just not pay anyone anything


[06-Aug-20 12:40 PM] Opponent#3498
well, the big business _would_ be worried. Not like that would help them if someone pointed a finger their direction :twismug: 'Rolex store, boarded up'. Yeah, right :D


[06-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/31/us/food-insecurity-30-million-census-survey/index.html

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Nearly 30 million Americans told the Census Bureau they didn't have...
Ruth Webb used to supplement her grocery shopping with a monthly trip to a local food pantry, where she would get fresh produce like potatoes, onions and carrots.
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[06-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Almost 10% of the population of the world's "richest" country is going hungry


[06-Aug-20 12:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the covid checks and eviction stays are about to run out


[06-Aug-20 12:43 PM] Opponent#3498
good times.


[06-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Pontology#1010
The article specifically distinguishes between food insecurity and hunger


[06-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Pontology#1010
No, 10% are not going hungry.


[06-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Pontology#1010
"Didn't have enough to each last week" means things like fresh vegetables etc for a healthy diet


[06-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Synfag#9241
*trusted name in news*


[06-Aug-20 05:54 PM] Pontology#1010
They're not going hungry, most of them.


[06-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Pontology#1010
Their prototypical leading example is even of this

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[06-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Pontology#1010
Webb is "food insecure", not hungry.


[06-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Pontology#1010
@Synfag It's just the usual misleading headline, and then the article itself is drastically different from the start.


[06-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Pontology#1010
It's the modus operandum of misleading news.


[06-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Modus Operandi of marketing,  journalism and sensationalism.


[06-Aug-20 06:01 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-black-lives-matter-terrorist-video-blm-a9657626.html

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Rudy Giuliani wildly claims BLM are a 'domestic terror group' who '...
No proof exists suggesting Black Lives Matter political organisation is behind any terrorist attacks
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[06-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
@Pontology, eating enough to keep going is not the same as eating enough to be healthy


[06-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Crow#5457
food insecurity includes eating 1.5k calories worth of hot pocket tier food a day


[06-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Crow#5457
and you would definitely be hungry eating enough to keep going, just not cripplingly so


[06-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Crow#5457
your argument that the headline is misleading is disingenuous at best


[06-Aug-20 06:06 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-economic-misery-jumps-unemployment-spike-coronavirus-recession-inflation-fears-2020-8

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US suffers world's biggest jump in economic misery as COVID cases s...
America slid to rank 25 from rank 50 as spiking unemployment and weak inflation expectations boosted its score on the Bloomberg Misery Index.
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[06-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
ohh, you cropped out the part where she says she "just ate enough to keep going", that's disingenous as fuck and borderline disinformation


[06-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
and hypocritical as well


[06-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Crow#5457
> "There were times that -- I don't want my husband hearing this -- I made sure he had food," she said. "I just ate enough to keep going."


[06-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Crow#5457
you complain about CNN supposedly writing a misleading headline, then immediately crop out context that shows that the person you're quoting very heavily implying she's going hungry to make sure her husband has enough food


[06-Aug-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
now _that's_ wild https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-ag-files-lawsuit-dissolve-national-rifle-association-2020-8

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New York attorney general files lawsuit to dissolve the National Ri...
New York Attorney General Letitia James' office has long been investigating the NRA's status as a nonprofit organization.
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[06-Aug-20 06:10 PM] byte[]#2610
> The lawsuit James' office filed alleges that four top NRA officials, including its longtime CEO Wayne LaPierre, "instituted a culture of self-dealing, mismanagement, and negligent oversight at the NRA." It also says they improperly managed the NRA's money and broke several state and federal laws.


[06-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy


[06-Aug-20 06:12 PM] >That Guy#3386
He's right.
We need a better, stronger organization to stand of for gun rights in the United States. The NRA makes way too many compromises, and seems to care more about gun manufacturers than gun rights, imo.


[06-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that there's a socialist rifle association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Rifle_Association

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The Socialist Rifle Association (SRA) is an American socialist firearm organization that is dedicated to "providing working class people the information they need to be effectively armed for self and community defense". The group advocates for Second Amendment gun-rights.
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[06-Aug-20 06:13 PM] >That Guy#3386
Are they effective at lobbying?


[06-Aug-20 06:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
I admire the NRA for their lobbying potency, but I'm disappointed in that they seem to lately only fight battles they know they can win. They were better when they kept their simple "say no to everything" motto.


[06-Aug-20 06:15 PM] wren#0114
how is the firearms policy coalition? I started seeing some of their vids lately and they talk the talk, but I don't know their history or if they're effective


[06-Aug-20 06:16 PM] >That Guy#3386
Policy coalition, you say?


[06-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-06/deutsche-bank-gives-up-trump-records-under-subpoena-nyt-reports

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Deutsche Bank Gives Up Trump Records Under Subpoena, NYT Reports
Deutsche Bank AG handed over detailed records related to dealings with U.S. President Donald Trump’s family business after receiving a subpoena from prosecutors last year, the New York Times reported.
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[06-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[06-Aug-20 06:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358570191745187840/740962160301178971/q.jpg

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[06-Aug-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
ima edit that for you real quick


[06-Aug-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610

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[06-Aug-20 06:20 PM] wren#0114
but now it's not a lefty meme


[06-Aug-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
needs quotes but w/e


[06-Aug-20 06:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
Meh, now it only applied to black people, which is already what the "power + Prejudice" people say.


[06-Aug-20 06:22 PM] Opponent#3498
@>That Guy probably just a fancy name.


[06-Aug-20 06:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
What are you referring to?


[06-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
```Policy coalition, you say?```


[06-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
right, shouldve quoted.


[06-Aug-20 06:24 PM] wren#0114
fpc


[06-Aug-20 06:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
The gun rights thing?
Oh.

I wish there were better, stronger, alternatives to the NRA, but so far they've at the very least proved to be the most effective at stopping gun-grabbers among groups available.
We need more people lobbying to preserve gun rights, and to restore gun rights we've lost.


[06-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
the NRA has literally lobbied to take guns away from people


[06-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

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The NRA Supported Gun Control When the Black Panthers Had the Weapons
Back in the 1960s, even the NRA supported gun control to disarm the group.
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[06-Aug-20 06:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
I know. That's part of why I'm fed up with it and want a stronger alternative.


[06-Aug-20 06:27 PM] wren#0114
that's gay. it sucks that they're the most effective (not very effective) one we've got right now


[06-Aug-20 06:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[06-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Crow#5457
well, apparently they've broken so many laws that there's a lawsuit from new york to disband them entirely


[06-Aug-20 06:28 PM] wren#0114
that'll own the gun nuts!


[06-Aug-20 06:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
Black Panthers deserved gun rights too.

A lot of people don't appreciate the significance of gun rights in the Civil Rights Movement. Black people wanted guns so they could defend themselves when the cops wouldn't.


[06-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
it was more along the lines of defending themselves from cops


[06-Aug-20 06:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
That too.


[06-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Crow#5457
because cops were basically just going into black neighborhoods and beating the first black male they saw


[06-Aug-20 06:30 PM] >That Guy#3386
But in other contexts, they also wanted guns to defend themselves from violence that the police were unwilling to prevent.
In some places they weren't allowed to own rifles or file for concealed carry permits.


[06-Aug-20 06:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
All people deserve gun rights.


[06-Aug-20 06:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
I hear people saywe need less guns in this country. I think the opposite: we need *more* guns.


[06-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Find the root of cause for gun need.


[06-Aug-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
more guns, but also more safety and theoretical education I'd say.


[06-Aug-20 06:36 PM] wren#0114
the root cause: it's a fundamental right


[06-Aug-20 06:36 PM] Opponent#3498
because people shooting themselves due to negligence is big cringe.


[06-Aug-20 06:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
It is indeed a fundamental right.


[06-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But why should it a fundamental right?


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, people should be trained in effective gun use.
>why
Because being deadly makes you free.


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] wren#0114
necessary to the security of a free state


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] wren#0114
necessary to the dismissal of tyranny over a free state


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
gun safety courses should be mandatory in the US


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
there's 120 guns for every 100 people


[06-Aug-20 06:38 PM] wren#0114
should be taught in schooool


[06-Aug-20 06:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, that'd be awesome.


[06-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Safety from whom? :xd:


[06-Aug-20 06:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
How to use, maintain, store, and clean guns safely.


[06-Aug-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
Trigger discipline


[06-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
of course, a lot of the issues we have with people in need of therapy getting ahold of guns would be solved by universal healthcare and thus reduce the number of mass shootings as well (no amount of gun safety would solve that problem), but that's only tangentially related to the absurd number of accidental shootings in the US


[06-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Over past weeks it could have been a nice use case for "dismissal of tyranny"


[06-Aug-20 06:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
If all those people had guns, the cops would have to approach them a lot more carefully.


[06-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do we still have wild west, where you have to protect yourself from hostile armies?


[06-Aug-20 06:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
Like the Panthers all those years ago.
It's hard to oppress people of they're all armed to the teeth.


[06-Aug-20 06:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
Define "hostile enemies".


[06-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is more harm than use.


[06-Aug-20 06:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
If there is no use, that only means the society is peaceful.


[06-Aug-20 06:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
Anyway, it's a right on which this nation was founded. Gun-grabbers periodically ignore the Constitution and strip away gun rights through precedent after precedent.
I want to get our old rights back.


[06-Aug-20 06:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Illustrated-Guide-To-Gun-Control.png

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[06-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Hostile enemies"
~~35-50 feral warthogs~~
Native Americans, British, Confederates, you name it..


[06-Aug-20 06:49 PM] >That Guy#3386
Gang violence, robbers, terrorists, rogue cops, murderers, etc


[06-Aug-20 06:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
And I don't need an excuse to own a gun. It's my ***right*** as an American.
If people want to take away gun rights in the U.S., they should have to change the Constitution first.


[06-Aug-20 06:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Gang violence, robbers, terrorists, rogue cops, murderers, etc
@>That Guy  the bourgeoisie... :TRN:


[06-Aug-20 06:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
Anyone you can name. You don't need a reason to have a gun; in fact, it's better if you have no reason to use it.


[06-Aug-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps
Perhaps arm yourself against these dudes or a reappearance of them

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[06-Aug-20 06:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
"shall not be infringed" is pretty clear language.


[06-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Crow#5457
"well-regulated militia" is also pretty clear language, but everyone ignores that part


[06-Aug-20 06:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
Gun-grabbers have just been ignoring it in the name of """reason""", stopping away gun rights bit by bit.
We need a Gun Rights Renaissance.


The militia language is not exclusive. Of you read the Federalist Papers, you could see that those gun rights were clearly meant for private citizens, who could in turn form a militia if they so desired.


[06-Aug-20 06:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
In the founding era, private citizens were allowed to own battleships with cannons: the strongest weaponry at the time, capable of destroying villages. It was explicitly protected by the Second Amendment.


[06-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/02/22/what-the-second-amendment-really-meant-to-the-founders/


[06-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
> 2. The amendment’s primary justification was to prevent the United States from needing a standing army.
> 
> Preventing the United States from starting a professional army, in fact, was the single most important goal of the Second Amendment. It is hard to recapture this fear today, but during the 18th century few boogeymen were as scary as the standing army — an army made up of professional, full-time soldiers.
> 
> By the logic of the 18th century, any society with a professional army could never be truly free. The men in charge of that army could order it to attack the citizens themselves, who, unarmed and unorganized, would be unable to fight back. This was why a well-regulated militia was necessary to the security of a free state: To be secure, a society needed to be able to defend itself; to be free, it could not exist merely at the whim of a standing army and its generals.
> 
> The only way to be both free and secure was for citizens to be armed, organized and ready to defend their society. The choice was a stark one: a standing army or a free nation.


[06-Aug-20 07:08 PM] Crow#5457
tl;dr you can't both support the second amendment and the US military


[06-Aug-20 07:10 PM] >That Guy#3386
If I had to choose, I'd rather have gun rights than a professional military 😛


[06-Aug-20 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
considering what the US military has been doing in living memory, there's little to no reason to support it right now :D


[06-Aug-20 07:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> It is hard to recapture this fear today, but during the 18th century few boogeymen were as scary as the standing army — an army made up of professional, full-time soldiers.


i cant wait for 200 years later at the 23rd century & ppl look back at 2020 go "wtf they were scared of this"

also pretty sure we'll have killer drones by 23rd century that makes professional soldiers look like a joke


[06-Aug-20 07:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
They’d have killer beans


[06-Aug-20 07:50 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Aug-20 07:51 PM] jlun2#8758
ah yes. the beans

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[06-Aug-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[06-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless they bring their own pole I don't see how they wouldn't be


[06-Aug-20 08:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I bring my own pole everywhere I go

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[06-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/510897-two-georgia-high-school-students-say-they-were-suspended-after-photos-of

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Two high school students in Georgia say they were suspended after they posted photos and footage of students – some of whom were not seen wearing a face covering – crowding in their school’s hallways after it resumed in-person classes.
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[06-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"“One area where we have received a good deal of feedback is mask use in our schools. Wearing a mask is a personal choice and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them."


[06-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How does "Wear a mask or you're not allowed to go to school" not work


[06-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Opponent#3498
snitches get stitches :wheeze:


[06-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
I love everything about this story.


[06-Aug-20 09:02 PM] wren#0114
why were they suspended


[06-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they made the school board look bad


[06-Aug-20 09:03 PM] wren#0114
cancel them


[06-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Schools have a lot of power to punish students


[06-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean, masks ain’t gonna kill you but a 357. Magnum round will fairly rip.


[06-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Schools are putting as much protection into COVID as they do school shootings


[06-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The problem is that COVID spreads in prisons


[06-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Aren’t prisoners kinda


[06-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Confined to a prison


[06-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
Radical idea: maybe prisons shouldn't mostly be actual physical confinement.


[06-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Nebbie#8545
_eyes up this novel concept of house arrest or maybe not putting more percentage of your population in jail than any other country to begin with._


[06-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I was making a point about how schools became prisons to stop school shootings


[06-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Which in the end just makes the school to prison pipeline more obvious

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[06-Aug-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article244764227.html


[06-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
School sounds more like proson already.
Uniforms, no leaving premises, do stuff all the time, bullying...


[06-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
God just get over it Nunes


[06-Aug-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
> Pandemic, economy falling apart, mass evictions hanging over millions, Nunes stomping his feet like a toddler and crying that his pathetic little feelings are hurt.

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[06-Aug-20 09:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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[06-Aug-20 09:34 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-beirut-explosion-news-latest-attack-lebanon-a9656716.html

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Lebanon officials say explosion was caused by ammonium nitrate
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[06-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course he would


[06-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The man doesn't understand the concept of admitting fault, not even of just shutting up about it


[06-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Will keep railing on until people agree with him or at the very least stop saying he's wrong


[06-Aug-20 10:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.thedailybeast.com/facebook-removes-troll-farm-pretending-to-be-african-americans-in-support-of-trump?via=twitter_page

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The social-media giant removed thousands of fake accounts, including ones tied to conservative media outlet The Epoch Times and a Romanian troll farm.
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[06-Aug-20 10:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
have they also just straight-up removed the Epoch Times too or is that hoping for too much


[06-Aug-20 10:19 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1291423849385320448?s=20

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Can anyone explain to me how Joe Biden can get away with calling a black journalist "a junkie" AND then saying that practically all black people are the same in the span of two days without the media caring at all?

Can you imagine if his last name was Trump instead of Biden?...
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[06-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Nebbie#8545
Wew lad https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/video/student-suspended-showing-fellow-students-masks-72209309

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Video: Student suspended after showing fellow students without masks
The student recorded a video showing a packed hallway and students without masks inside a Georgia high school amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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[06-Aug-20 10:31 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEEEEZE


[06-Aug-20 10:31 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[06-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
wheezing is what a lot of those kids' teachers and parents will be doing in 2-3 weeks

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[06-Aug-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
parents are immortal


[06-Aug-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m gone for 3 days due to an outage and i come back to trump claiming Biden is going to hurt god https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1291438276671397890

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Here's Trump in Ohio claiming that Joe Biden is "against God."

"No religion, no anything, hurt the Bible, hurt God. He's against God," Trump says. 🙃 https://t.co/IwAjgbkEyB
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[06-Aug-20 11:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if, sex with god but you're the dom


[06-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you believe in God and believe Biden can hurt God then you'd be a fool to not vote for Biden

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[06-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m reading an apparent interview trump had and everything about this is very painful


[06-Aug-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[06-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire interview is comedy, except he's the president


[06-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn-gHeOnL9c

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Solving the Mask Shortage in San Clemente
Directed/Edited by Dan Lucchesi
Shot by Dan Lucchesi and John Chigas
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[07-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do want Biden to quit going off-script and saying stupid shit.

The comment about diversity among black people was really dumb and he needs to quit giving Republicans ammo.


[07-Aug-20 12:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least when he goes off-script he eventually gets back on it


[07-Aug-20 12:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
With Trump, it's a matter of counting the words he's managed to remember (like "television") before he slides back into his insane rambling


[07-Aug-20 12:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the other big difference is that when Biden is on-script there's a sense that he means what he's saying to at least *some* extent


[07-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's true. But Trump voters are largely way more forgiving of his faults. We cannot assume the standard is being applied equally and that Trump's obviously worse antics will make him the blatantly unfavored choice.

We cannot afford for Biden to lose and so he needs to stop doing this. (I mean, bad optics aside, I genuinely think these particular comments are *wrong* too.)


[07-Aug-20 12:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just so long as we can keep Kanye from gaining enough traction to be the spoil vote for people who get that Trump is bad but don't get what makes him bad


[07-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think most people aren't taking the bait.

Polling so far shows about 10% fewer voters are breaking for a third party this time compared to 2016.


[07-Aug-20 12:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the various other schemes the GOP are pushing to suppress the democratic vote


[07-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a lot more rigidly divided by the two major parties this time, and *so far* the Republicans are losing. But we can't take the lead for granted.


[07-Aug-20 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not that any one thing is the key to taking on Biden, it's a death by a thousand paper cuts. The discrediting and defunding of mail-in voting, the undermining of the felon votes in Florida (and soon Iowa), the *insistence* that things are fine


[07-Aug-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
> wheezing is what a lot of those kids' teachers and parents will be doing in 2-3 weeks
@Teaspoon HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSING


[07-Aug-20 12:16 AM] illumnious#7938

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[07-Aug-20 12:16 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1291465138525134848?s=20

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VIRAL MOMENT: President Trump pronounces Thailand "thighland" before correcting himself." https://t.co/rZuzXuA54x
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[07-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think we probably should have eased up on reporting like this also.

Picking at comparably minor things like this inoculates the public to taking criticism of Trump's actually insane policy and actions seriously. They can point to news articles about mispronunciations and write off legitimate criticisms of his handling of the pandemic or the migrant camps or any of the other horrible shit he's doing and just say "lol tds"

also, thighland sounds like a fun place


[07-Aug-20 12:31 AM] byte[]#2610
pedo guy amirite


[07-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
yep, he's not even wrong.


[07-Aug-20 01:05 AM] Marches[45]#0674
The students getting suspended for making the school board look as bad as they’re being is embarrassing for personal reasons. I didn’t go to that high school, but I’m not far.


[07-Aug-20 01:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/899712823/new-york-attorney-general-moves-to-dissolve-the-nra-after-fraud-investigation

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New York Attorney General Moves To Dissolve The NRA After Fraud Inv...
New York's attorney general announced civil action to dissolve the National Rifle Association after an investigation found millions of dollars in alleged fraud by CEO Wayne LaPierre and others.
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[07-Aug-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1291435765575176192 (says the guy who was happy to ban guns before and would absolutely do it again -- just pointing out the hypocrisy)

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Just like Radical Left New York is trying to destroy the NRA, if Biden becomes President your GREAT SECOND AMENDMENT doesn’t have a chance. Your guns will be taken away, immediately and without notice. No police, no guns!
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[07-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/canada-was-taking-advantage-of-us-trump-says-in-imposing-new-aluminum-tariff-1.5054066?cache=sbklajmajdo%3FautoPlay%3Dtrue

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'Canada was taking advantage of us,' Trump says in imposing new alu...
U.S. President Donald Trump is imposing a new 10 per cent tariff on Canadian aluminum imports, despite condemnation from aluminum organizations on both sides of the border. In announcing the new trade action at an event in Ohio, Trump claimed said Canada was being 'very unfair'.
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[07-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
bruh the US needs Canadan aluminium why the fuck he do this


[07-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
is he trying to fuck up everything for everyone _on purpose_ now?


[07-Aug-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[07-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You expect his base to remember what he said over a year ago?


[07-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They barely have object permanence

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[07-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's "deal" strategy is to suddenly cut ties, then demand concessions to restore them.


[07-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's similar to what terrorists like to do.


[07-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is it can put a skittish party on edge, and they'll rush to appease.


[07-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, it kind of requires you be able to punish them for saying no.


[07-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
I can only imagine it worked fine in his 'business' life.


[07-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump in the past was always in a position above those he was doing this to.


[07-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes.


[07-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
But now...Canada isn't going to bend over.


[07-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're just gonna slog thru and grind this out.

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[07-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, there's a method to this madness...but it's the wrong method. Trump acts like he's Reagan, and he's not Reagan.


[07-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's basically post-dementia Reagan.


[07-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Without the cold war.


[07-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also the usual "spew more new bullshit, start new drama" thing, don't let anything stick in the news for over a day


[07-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If people are talking too much about the stupidest thing he said yesterday, say something dumber today to get them to forget about it


[07-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just a constant deluge of idiocy that makes everyone numb and incapable of dealing with any of it at all


[07-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I think he's a bit too prideful for that approach. His smarter aides wouldn't be though


[07-Aug-20 02:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Just a constant deluge of idiocy that makes everyone numb and incapable of dealing with any of it at all
@Teaspoon  like ads on social media, basically


[07-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
speaking of
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/facebook-bans-pro-trump-super-pac-from-advertising-on-its-platform

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Facebook bans pro-Trump super PAC from advertising on its platform
Facebook announced Thursday that it will ban pro-Trump super PAC, The Committee to Defend The President, from buying ads on its platform.
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[07-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:glimmy_popcorn:


[07-Aug-20 02:46 AM] RYDE#8862
The salt will be legendary.


[07-Aug-20 02:46 AM] illumnious#7938
ew FOX


[07-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Now troopll ban Facebook


[07-Aug-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
I'm sorry who?


[07-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Troopll


[07-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The president of amooricll


[07-Aug-20 02:52 AM] jlun2#8758
are they aware trump is ruining their own image just by letting him use it


[07-Aug-20 02:54 AM] illumnious#7938
bruh


[07-Aug-20 02:55 AM] illumnious#7938

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[07-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1291431249844862981 Biden is a JRPG hero now

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A completely deranged Trump claims Joe Biden will "hurt God" if elected president https://t.co/cJ8fbghmAm
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[07-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Not so deranged if you consider Trump a God.


[07-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[07-Aug-20 03:11 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I want Biden to hurt Trump.


[07-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Crow#5457
you're a fool if you don't vote for the man who can injure the Almighty

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[07-Aug-20 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
Political age limit of 60 when


[07-Aug-20 03:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't like the idea of being disenfranchised in old age.


[07-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Opponent#3498
that's happening whether you like it or not though.


[07-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
the best you can hope once you reach retirement age is swift death via a firearm.


[07-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Opponent#3498
it's only different for the 'leaders'.


[07-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The con job the Republicans have pulled on the elderly is honestly amazing. They *consistently* vote to disenfranchise old people and slash benefits whenever they can, but old people are their most reliable voter base.


[07-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The awful covid handling is just an extreme version of their already-cavalier attitudes toward seniors.


[07-Aug-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean people can vote if they're old


[07-Aug-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean not having senile people elected.


[07-Aug-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
now this is somewhat illegal to disclose, but I don't care, there are 93 year olds just having their kids fill out all of their voting shit for them named Barbara n shit, I had a job processing votes, they always voted for the right wing party that cuts their pensions and makes their healthcare worse.


[07-Aug-20 04:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
like they can't even vote themselves, they only just badly scrawl a signature, their brains and bodies are moosh, they must be begging to die in an aged care home.


[07-Aug-20 04:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
the job was fucking depressing seeing all that shit, like these people are want to kill you and are increasingly happy with privatizing aged care.

Privatized aged care is basically the biggest covid breakout zone rn in my country, and the millionaire/billionaire owners are pulling out w bankruptcy and leaving them to die.


[07-Aug-20 04:14 AM] jlun2#8758
> aged care home
how is this even sustainable? are they all rich
my grandparents live w/ me


[07-Aug-20 04:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
they sell their homes so their kids never inherit anything and will remain poor forever, and use those life savings + home selling money to pay for their slow demise


[07-Aug-20 04:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's one of the reasons millenials and gen z are the poorest generations with no hope of improvement, no inheritance, privately owned aged care


[07-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://mobile.twitter.com/Slasher/status/1291552038455775233?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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BREAKING: Trump has signed executive order that prohibits transactions with TikTok and WeChat parent companies Bytedance and Tencent (!!), effective in 45 days

uhhh
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[07-Aug-20 04:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
living with your family is obviously cheaper, but atomized individualism/consumerism as a culture has made this normal


[07-Aug-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
living with your family should be the default unless you can't get along with them


[07-Aug-20 04:36 AM] jlun2#8758
💸


[07-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Opponent#3498
@dissociativity you should try living with someone who's mind is moosh yet the body refuses to give up. Or, alternatively, someone who's of sound mind but has something like a complex hip fracture and is basicly incapable of independant movement.


[07-Aug-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
i am. i hate it :ts_cry:


[07-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
the moment this situation settles in, more than one life effectively ends. I've heard multiple stories of people I know. Nice people, kind people generally. The story ends the same - 'thank god they died. Now we can finally live a little again.'


[07-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
the aged care thing might be shit and worthless and poorly implemented and defunded and ... but there's a _fucking reason_ it was implemented and no, it's not simply capitalism.


[07-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm lucky my old folks are of sound mind and body, kind of, for now. If that changes, it's my life that would end because there's no one left who'd care for them but me. It's one of the few things I dread, up there with becoming a cripple. _Not_ looking forward to it.


[07-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
on a related note, at least if the mind's gone, you can kind of not really care anymore, go through the motions. If it's the body that's crippled instead... Fuck, I struggle to imagine a worse situation than this, on both sides.


[07-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Serenity#9645
theres alot of mental health issues that make your mind over-react too


[07-Aug-20 04:49 AM] jlun2#8758
i know it'll be interesting in China given 100m old ppl


[07-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
no I mean if you care for an old person who's basicly gone in their head.


[07-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
vs sharp mind in a broken body.


[07-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Serenity#9645
my grandfather before he cut ties cus im gay was always worried about the commies coming to get him as he experienced a violent revolution. he didnt have a a good body going for him and told medical workers that they were trying to kill him like the commies did


[07-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Serenity#9645
he was pretty hippy ride the rails when he was younger too didnt start to get "wealth" until way later in his life when he bought land and a trailer (and had cats as friends lol) away from people.


[07-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Serenity#9645
do others have a experience like this?


[07-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I never had a experience like this because my big iron always fairly ripped


[07-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Trump may have just banned half the videogame industry from operating in the US


[07-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Canada


[07-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Also is this real


[07-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Because if so I’m going to go lube up the ramp to the stage next time the T mans bouta speak


[07-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Very real.


[07-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, *this* decision will certainly endear Trump to Gen Z voters


[07-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Litrojia#0612
haha holy shit


[07-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Welp get the canola oil


[07-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
45 days is also halfway to the election.

Like, Trump's making a super controversial news cycle about himself within spitting distance of the election.

Don't get me wrong, Tiktok is garbage but a ban by executive order is a *stupid* political move


[07-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
He likes controversy.


[07-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is Newt Gingrich politics.


[07-Aug-20 05:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But like

This is also going to overshadow Biden's dumb remarks today pretty much instantly

Trump could've *fed* on that for weeks if he really wanted but he decided to put the negative spotlight back on himself.


[07-Aug-20 05:22 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I need evidence to this senile old fuck’s video game fuckery


[07-Aug-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon i dont think hes even aware of the video game industry w/ china outside "they cause school shootings"


[07-Aug-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1291552038455775233

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BREAKING: Trump has signed executive order that prohibits transactions with TikTok and WeChat parent companies Bytedance and Tencent (!!), effective in 45 days

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[07-Aug-20 05:23 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sir Frosty


[07-Aug-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
ive never see encountered a politician that understands video games in my life


[07-Aug-20 05:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's the logical conclusion

If Chinese social media apps are banned, then it makes sense that Chinese video games could be next on the chopping block


[07-Aug-20 05:24 AM] jlun2#8758
tencent owns a whole bunch of studios


[07-Aug-20 05:24 AM] jlun2#8758
so blocking interacting w/ them blocks the studios too


[07-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tencent owns majorities and minorities in _a lot_ of studios


[07-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is going to affect a *lot* of American businesses.


[07-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind their 40% stake in Epic


[07-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh. Tencent owns or at least partially owns discord


[07-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Tencent invested in Reddit.


[07-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
If a "gamer" uses it, chances are Tencent's got a stake.


[07-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Epic's UE4 is used is an easy 25% of the "AAA" games released today


[07-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the nuclear option.


[07-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus yeah, they have investments in a shitload of misc. internet businesses


[07-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
bytedance was expected.


[07-Aug-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
school wants me to e-sign a contract that says the following
> I understand that the University has developed new standards and guidelines in order to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, which may be updated at any time. I understand these standards and guidelines may or may not be effective in mitigating the spread of COVID-19 and I agree to comply with such standards and guidelines

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[07-Aug-20 05:27 AM] jlun2#8758
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent#Video_games
if anyone is curious

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Tencent
Tencent Holdings Ltd is a global multinational conglomerate holding company founded in 1998, whose subsidiaries specialise in various Internet-related services and products, entertainment, artificial intelligence and technology globally. Its twin-skyscrapers headquarters Tence...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/TencentHQ2020.jpg/1200px-TencentHQ2020.jpg


[07-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So they can tell you to do whatever, you hav to comply, even if you know they're full of shit.


[07-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hate stuff like that.


[07-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It completely shirks responsibility.


[07-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even if the only thing that happens in the next three months is Tiktok itself, that alone is still really popular with young people, and could honestly hit too close to home for some of them. "The president took away the thing I love" is less important - but more *personal* - than making arguments about injustices done to people who aren't them who they may not empathize with.


[07-Aug-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
its not like they vote, so politician can shit on them w/ no consequences


[07-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Some of them are of voting age. Though yes, the 18-24 crowd doesn't vote *much.*


[07-Aug-20 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610
I also have to watch a mandatory safety training video even though I'm not returning to campus


[07-Aug-20 05:28 AM] byte[]#2610

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[07-Aug-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
30 minutes of this, I'm setting playback speed to 2x


[07-Aug-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
there's terrible music over it :(


[07-Aug-20 05:29 AM] jlun2#8758
is it bad the only thing i know of "pittsburgh" is MAKE COAL GREAT AGAIN" from 2016 & nothing else


[07-Aug-20 05:29 AM] byte[]#2610
no, it's a nowhere city


[07-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that coal thing trump promised didn't work out so well, huh


[07-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
What coal thing?


[07-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
> If oakland [pittsburgh neighborhood] right now is anything to go off, wolf will put us on red within a week of people coming back to campus. No one is wearing masks at all, there are parties everywhere, and honestly if i didn’t know we were in the middle of a pandemic, i wouldn’t know just by walking down the street. There is little difference between the night life last summer and the night life this summer. This is making me angry.


[07-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
from a student


[07-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Phelan#7647
>Trump banned Tencent and ByteDance
Good lol. Fuck China


[07-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He pledged to revive the U.S. coal industry but since his election more coal plants shut down than during Obama's first term.


[07-Aug-20 05:36 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[07-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Phelan#7647
I hope he bans more companies from the US


[07-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Phelan#7647
More Chinese companies*


[07-Aug-20 05:37 AM] jlun2#8758
ban twitter pls


[07-Aug-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
they didn't even get basic information about medical equipment right

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[07-Aug-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So it's probably alarmist to think that discord itself will be banned as a result of the EO, but what are the chances it'll kill nitro?


[07-Aug-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or do you think that the EO will be struck down before it goes into effect


[07-Aug-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I suspect a TRO will be granted


[07-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Phelan#7647
Tencent doesn't own much of Discord.


[07-Aug-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I also strongly think it will get a preliminary injunction and then it will have to hold up in court to be enforceable


[07-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Phelan#7647
Enough that Discord or another investor could purchase that portion.


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, companies just invest millions in others in under 45 days


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause, like, if the EO were worded in a way that meant nothing that's a subsidiary of Tencent, one of the biggest companies on the planet, could get revenue in the US...that'd be pretty highly illegal and unenforceable, no?


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's totally a thing that is common and happens a lot


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's going to be a shitstorm, and I love it.


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Phelan#7647
As far as stuff like Epic, fuck them. They made their bed with the devil, better sleep with it.


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It usually takes years for a company to get investment


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
lol


[07-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And half a year for the deals to be made and properly signed


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If what Trump wanted was to ruin american companies, this was a very effective way


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
45 days is beyond the realm of retardation


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like I don't even care if every company affected by this order sold kicked puppy juice. If the president can do this via EO, that sets an extremely dangerous precedent


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Let it all burn.


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For a man that says he knows about deals, this is peak stupid


[07-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"I won't be the worst businessman if *all* American companies go to shit"


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Phelan#7647
It's gonna harm china much, much more and that's a good thing.

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[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
.aq @WingbeatPony like I don't even care if every company affected by this order sold kicked puppy juice


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**WingbeatPony**:  like I don't even care if every company affected by this order sold kicked puppy juice).


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Serenity#9645
it depends, submit to Chinese policy to allow a backdoor to in a cold war against civil rights abuse like the re-education camps thus leaving a back door to our citizens info straight to the CCP, or denouce it and lose a huge market and cheep labor camp labor. lots of big and small business relies on china, but separating ourselves from the religion/race based concentration camps should be a good goal, just sadly now what big brands want for profits and i dont want to support them if the CCP call shots by share


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
it's barely going to dent china at all lmao


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Phelan#7647
It'd dent the US less tho

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[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
more


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
China won't care, financially or in their spying activities


[07-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And it'll hurt the US _much_ more


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Serenity#9645
they might not but i do believe personally its morally right to not abuse slave labor


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tencent is fucking massive, they won't even notice _selling_ their investments


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile all those US (and other nations') companies will be fucked


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, really, what is stopping Tencent from continuing to offer their services to people in the US for free under this order


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And may just outright shut down


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Masterplay


[07-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Serenity#9645
well fuck the companies that use it


[07-Aug-20 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's a win for tencent because they're not really interested in our microtransactions, our data is far more valuable


[07-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Serenity#9645
modern day concentration camps should not be used period


[07-Aug-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
I didn't even think about settlement-free contracts


[07-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_looks at the sourthern us border and the private prisons paying slaves 30 cents an hour for physical labour_


[07-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
fuck those too


[07-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Phelan#7647
Honestly, China is an enemy of the first world. If there was a way to dismantle the country without spilling blood, I'd be all for that.


[07-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
^^^^^^^^^^^^


[07-Aug-20 05:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dismantle how?


[07-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
the CCP replaced with a different governance that isnt colonial or has concentration camps


[07-Aug-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Toppling governments from the outside is a really great way to destabilize a nation, devastate its population, and make an enemy for life


[07-Aug-20 05:50 AM] jlun2#8758
so is facebook going to buy those tencent companies


[07-Aug-20 05:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and you wanna do that to the *largest nation on earth?*


[07-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Phelan#7647
>Dismatle how?
Exactly the problem


[07-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
yep


[07-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont know the answers, but i dont wish for bloodshed, by war or their atrocities what we fund


[07-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well okay, but I do think it's still important to make them *stop* genociding people and putting them in concentration camps. (and i mean, we should stop that concentration camp business too; I know ours aren't on the same level as what China's doing, but they're still an abhorrent abuse of human rights)


[07-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Phelan#7647
The problem is that those human rights abuses will never stop without the CCP gone.


[07-Aug-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
`and you wanna do that to the largest nation on earth?`
Yes.
Fuck China.


[07-Aug-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
The Chinese are committing actual genocide right now. I have no sympathy for them.


[07-Aug-20 05:54 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/SamAugustDean/status/1291576813685108736

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Sam Dean 🦅 (@SamAugustDean)
https://twitter.com/SamAugustDean/status/1291576813685108736
Video game companies owned by Tencent will NOT be affected by this executive order!

White House official confirmed to the LA Times that the EO only blocks transactions related to WeChat

So Riot Games (League of Legends), Epic Games (Fortnite), et al are safe

(pending updat...
Twitter


[07-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Chinese government, I want to be clear. The average Chinese *citizen* isn't necessarily complicit.


[07-Aug-20 05:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[07-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's not what the EO says


[07-Aug-20 05:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
We'll see


[07-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
i know, but how do you stop that without bloodshed i wish i knew even the beginning of a answer cus they have a huge army with service for all doctrine. hard to invade, so it has to be from the inside, but totalization kills them off before they can even think of


[07-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
that or a world war and fuck that


[07-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess the question is, was it morally justified to invade WWII-era Germany?


[07-Aug-20 05:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
↖Chinese citizen


[07-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, **or with respect to any property**, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States**, with Tencent Holdings Ltd.** (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.


[07-Aug-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[07-Aug-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
here's the text of the EO for anyone who's interested https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-wechat/

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Executive Order on Addressing the Threat Posed by WeChat | The Whit...
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic
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[07-Aug-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Chinese are committing a modern Holocaust.
The only reason they're not putting Uighurs in ovens is because it's more profitable to use them as slave labor.


[07-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Phelan#7647
The problem is that it's like North Korea (albeit, to a much much lesser degree) where a lot of citizens are pro CCP. Not gonna say that it's even a majority, but a decent amount of the population aren't pro-liberal democracy.


[07-Aug-20 05:57 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon like i said i dont think most ppl are aware of how much tencent owns. for instance i didnt know they owned a stake in both reddit & discord


[07-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And a more-than-plural amount of the population in Germany was pro-Nazi. It was still right to march in and dismantle that government on a basic human rights level.

I'm generally anti-war but I think slavery and concentration camps are such an indefensible evil that they need to be ended by any means.


[07-Aug-20 05:59 AM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy sounds cynical but i always thought the reason not as much ppl outside china cared for the Uighurs is because muslimphobia. could be wrong tho


[07-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Serenity#9645
yes, cus the national socialist party of germany started a war and had human atrocities, its easy to jump in a war and say fuck racial socialism. but what about a cold war, do we pull the trigger or let then make the move, the defender is always gonna have the morale and nationalisum to fight for what the nation sees as right. without direct military action its political suicide and a unjust war like vietnam


[07-Aug-20 06:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
China has been fighting socioeconomic war.


[07-Aug-20 06:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
> @>That Guy sounds cynical but i always thought the reason not as much ppl outside china cared for the Uighurs is because muslimphobia. could be wrong tho
Actually most of Chinese has muslimphobia. They has much higher crime rate than others


[07-Aug-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have some doubts as to the intent of the CCP to fully exterminate the Uyghurs, but i’m most certain that there’s capitalist and downright colonialist practices being done in western China


[07-Aug-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
The government of China has intentionally exacerbated that phobia with propaganda.


[07-Aug-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
Uighurs are being sterilized and forced to marry Han Chinese.


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They want to exterminate Uyghur culture, not necessarily the "people" itself


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Serenity#9645
both are bad


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Uighurs are identifiable by their appearance.


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"The west" tends to not care much if muslims are on the receiving end of genocide or cultural destruction


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And that's not a good reason anyway; "higher crime rates" don't justify prejudice. We're only talking about averages, not anything *inherent* to a group.


[07-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hence the sterilizations and forced marriages.


[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Phelan#7647
They're definitely gonna try to "Tibet" the Xinjiang province.


[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The West hates Chinese more than they hate Muslims

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[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The CCP still officially recognizes Xinjiang as a “Uyghur autonomous republic” and upholds some token measures to preserve their culture somehow, but there has been conflict in regards to how Uyghurs interact with the CCP’s vision for an “united” China


[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nothing called an autonomous republic is either autonomous, or a republic


[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, lol


[07-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
See how quickly people forgot that a region in India is still under martial law, or the rohingya genocide


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Like i said, most Chinese hate muslims, not Uyghurs


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The minority we hate the most is Hui


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
Uyghurs are Muslims.


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The CCP did the Belt and Road stuff but acts shocked when Black people and Muslims show up in China.


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What did they expect?


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Not all> Uyghurs are Muslims.
@>That Guy


[07-Aug-20 06:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, the CCP and business interests allied to it have their eyes set on the region’s natural resources, to the possible detriment of the locals


[07-Aug-20 06:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Such as water, minerals, etc.


[07-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
most of youths in china has no religious belief


[07-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even if the hate was only directed at Muslims it'd still be just as wrong.


[07-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
because of the voluntary education


[07-Aug-20 06:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> The CCP did the Belt and Road stuff but acts shocked when Black people and Muslims show up in China.
@Itsthinking  er, Muslims have been in China for centuries


[07-Aug-20 06:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
no school we here is allowed to teach religious things


[07-Aug-20 06:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
except religious culture or history, etc


[07-Aug-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Gross


[07-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure, and that's fine. Disliking religious *belief* is fine; I do myself. But that's not the same as hating the *people* who follow it.

And yeah, theoretically our schools aren't *supposed* to teach religion either but I can tell you that here in the deep-south U.S. we've got some teachers who invoke the specifically Christian God in class pretty regularly.


[07-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Schools not indoctrinating children to believe in fairies or santa claus seems pretty sane to me


[07-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shame they indoctrinate other things instead


[07-Aug-20 06:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“Join our party, start your business”


[07-Aug-20 06:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i don't hate religious people myself, but i can't change those old people's mind


[07-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, I don't mean you. I'm just talking about the general attitudes.


[07-Aug-20 06:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
they hate muslim, hate homosexual, hate western countries


[07-Aug-20 06:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism, everyone :))))

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[07-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm not religious, but those people who are like "[religion] is bad" are annoying, be it Islam or Christianity.


[07-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Here in America it's a problem too. Plenty of people hate Muslims here. And like, I *understand* disliking Islam as a belief system. I understand disliking Christianity and other religions too.

But once you turn that from "anti-religion" to "anti-religious people" you've fucked up.


[07-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm still amazed they continue pretending they're communist and that people everywhere earnestly believe it


[07-Aug-20 06:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Even people who defend it lol


[07-Aug-20 06:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ever heard of those tankies who believe Xi Jinping is playing 4d chess against western imperialism?


[07-Aug-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yes


[07-Aug-20 06:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
4d chess?


[07-Aug-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
They're the gayest idiots on the whole internet.


[07-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like believing Amazon is communist because it pays workers at the same level the same salary and it's all managed by a panel of experts that control every aspect of the company


[07-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
- Be ruthlessly capitalistic
- Call yourself communism
- Thereby discredit actual communism because it will always be compared to China


[07-Aug-20 06:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i haven't seen xi jinping on tv for a month already... only trump everyday


[07-Aug-20 06:14 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
trump said this, trump did that


[07-Aug-20 06:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
>not tuning him out


[07-Aug-20 06:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wise move for Xi tbh — makes him sound more important every time he appears


[07-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why would they


[07-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unedited Trump is the best anti-american propaganda there is


[07-Aug-20 06:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whereas Trump is seen and talked about *every single fucking day*


[07-Aug-20 06:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Trump lives in the minds of most humans on the planet, rent free.


[07-Aug-20 06:18 AM] jlun2#8758
its it weird if i think there was a trump 2.0 that did everything trump already does EXCEPT ramble on social media he would be able to do more & ppl would praise him for it


[07-Aug-20 06:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
Trump is the first openly-shitposter president.


[07-Aug-20 06:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
thanks to trump ive earned thousands by buying military industry stocks


[07-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not rent free, it only cost the US its credibility and respect


[07-Aug-20 06:23 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Anyway, the analists we here says that trump carrying out anti-china policies is to earn more votes


[07-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right now, in the way he's doing things


[07-Aug-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
analists

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[07-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's to distract from corona and get himself back in the news cycle as "doing something"


[07-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_If_ there are presidential debates, he's going to spend _every answer_ saying he's "Tough on Chainya"


[07-Aug-20 06:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Toff on choiner


[07-Aug-20 06:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i think Trump can crush Biden at the debate


[07-Aug-20 06:27 AM] wren#0114
china is cancer


[07-Aug-20 06:27 AM] wren#0114
ccp is I mean


[07-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think either can survive a debate unless the moderators play the softest softball imaginable


[07-Aug-20 06:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not convinced the debates matter that much unless one of them is *super* bad.


[07-Aug-20 06:28 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Flaccid ball


[07-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tea’s words not mine


[07-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's why neither side is really pushing for them that hard, just sniping that the other doesn't want them


[07-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A stellar performance would gain nothing


[07-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But both have a massive chance to stumble and say something stupid, blank out, or just outright collapse on stage or spill water all over their expensive tie


[07-Aug-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
forget the tie


[07-Aug-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
the real tragedy is going to be those $2000 worth of lav mics and transmitters they're wearing


[07-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Biden's more-or-less kept clean of baggage. Some gaffes here and there, but there's no 24-hour news cycle about emails this time. No major scandal Trump can zero in on.


[07-Aug-20 06:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And maybe a pacemaker


[07-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Still 3 months left


[07-Aug-20 06:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
damn i can't wait


[07-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just want this to be over.


[07-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Serenity#9645
gov controlled stuff is fulfilled by contracts even if its 10x+ the price. thus stupid high spending for the lowist bid, shitty product and 10x+ the price. this needs to stop


[07-Aug-20 06:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What if Biden suddenly drops dead in October or so


[07-Aug-20 06:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What would happen?


[07-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Serenity#9645
he would be replaced and in a short time another nominee will need to take the spotlight and fast appealing to both sides to have a chance


[07-Aug-20 06:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
Probably his VP


[07-Aug-20 06:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's taking him long enough to choose a VP. .


[07-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Serenity#9645
he doesnt have one, and pre election it wont matter


[07-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Serenity#9645
whole new set of policies if a VP nominee wants to take houe


[07-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At this rate it's still a tossup which we'll learn first, the price of a PS5/Xbone4 or Biden's VP pick


[07-Aug-20 06:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden;s vp pick is a cryptid, we'll never truly know if they exist or not


[07-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Serenity#9645
isnt the popular vote bass?


[07-Aug-20 06:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
He said he'd pick a woman just so all the female Democrats would have to kiss up to him.


[07-Aug-20 06:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden’s VP should be SCP-096


[07-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think him picking a black female VP is a good idea

Specifically *announcing* he'd be doing that ahead of time, less of a good idea


[07-Aug-20 06:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
a black muslim vegan homosexual transgender female journalist VP


[07-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because now Republicans can just go "well, you just picked her because woman"

Whereas if you'd just picked that VP and not made a big deal about it, the Republicans *still* would've been sexist and racist about it but at least they'd be the ones making the first comment about the VP's gender/race.


[07-Aug-20 06:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I still think it's a good idea. Just not announcing it as he did.


[07-Aug-20 06:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Again, he did it so the Democratic women would have to kiss up to him.
Helped him with that sexual assault stuff


[07-Aug-20 06:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also did it for political brownie points


[07-Aug-20 06:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it looks really good to progressives


[07-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm progressive and I think announcing it was really boneheaded


[07-Aug-20 06:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or atleast that;s what his campaign managers told him anyway


[07-Aug-20 06:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
Dumb, senile boomer


[07-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Seeing more women and minorities in politics is good but outright saying "I am going to specifically pick someone because they're this or that" muddles the discourse and doesn't look good to a lot of voters. I am hoping that he just picks her soon, she's good, and that the issue isn't pressed too hard.


[07-Aug-20 06:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention openly flouting kamala harris


[07-Aug-20 06:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a bit of a dicey pick


[07-Aug-20 06:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
I hope it gets blown out of proportion, because now I only care about politics for my own personal entertainment.


[07-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's a position many of us can't afford to be in. A lot of us are really depending on him winning this one.


[07-Aug-20 06:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Used to be a polisci major because I cared.
Now I say the world can go fuck itself.


[07-Aug-20 06:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately i;m one of the people who live in the world, which gives me reason to care


[07-Aug-20 06:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤷‍♀️


[07-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
as a fellow world-liver, same


[07-Aug-20 06:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
I just hope this election lives up to the last one.


[07-Aug-20 06:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Give me chaos.


[07-Aug-20 06:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if i were safely tucked in another country away from america, this would be more popcorn eatingly hilarious. Since i live in america, this is only slightly popcorn eatingly hilarious with a seasoning of anxiety


[07-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course, America has its hands in so many other countries' affairs that I think there's still some genuine investment in our election results to be had for them too. Less so than the people living here of course.


[07-Aug-20 06:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true


[07-Aug-20 07:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511002-biden-says-his-faith-is-bedrock-foundation-of-my-life-after-trump-attack

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Biden says his faith is 'bedrock foundation of my life' after Trump...
Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden said his faith is the “bedrock foundation of my life” after President Trump accused him of being “against God” on Thursday.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe2_06022020getty.jpg


[07-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hilariously, Trump's campaign ran an ad featuring doctored footage of him praying in church, trying to pass it off as him falling asleep in public (since his head was down)


[07-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is how little ammo Trump has.


[07-Aug-20 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
god damn why do politicians keep doing this shit


[07-Aug-20 07:24 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't want you to be religious or invoke faith for ANYTHING WHATSOEVER


[07-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah

Being *personally* religious is whatever but it should have no bearing on policy


[07-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony you are so, so naive about what is and isn't legal with EOs.


[07-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Chevron defense.


[07-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also SCP-096 would be a better VP than Harris.


[07-Aug-20 07:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any SCP that doesn't destroy a state would be better.


[07-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be Bass if not for Boomer Cuban-Americans in South Florida.


[07-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really hate the "see, you're better off than those OTHER minorities stukk where they are" strategy Florida does.


[07-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's as scummy as it gets.


[07-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're emigres that fled to the US.


[07-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Many of them have that stance.


[07-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex the Persian Americans who still want the Pahlavis to come back to power


[07-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida Republicans feed into it.


[07-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically they see latinos as people they can funnel some money to to keep blakks down.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not Latino as a whole, Cuban-Americans.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just Cuban-Americans.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Its


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Puerto Ricans.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ones who moved to Florida.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
They vote Republican because Republicans gave them lots of resources.


[07-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
While screwing over their brethren bakk on Puerto Rico.


[07-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why Florida went Republican still in 2018.


[07-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Let Puerto Rico go or make it a state.


[07-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This limbo helps no one.


[07-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
...you really don't get colonialism/imperialism, do you?


[07-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I get why, but we need to move on from it


[07-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having it in limbo is perfect for Republicans politically.


[07-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means they can keep it from voting on national matters.


[07-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
While exploiting it for corruption.


[07-Aug-20 08:28 AM] wren#0114
https://twitter.com/slasher/status/1291552038455775233?s=21

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https://twitter.com/slasher/status/1291552038455775233?s=21
BREAKING: Trump has signed executive order that prohibits transactions with TikTok and WeChat parent companies Bytedance and Tencent (!!), effective in 45 days

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[07-Aug-20 08:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the third posting of this.


[07-Aug-20 08:35 AM] wren#0114
o, was sleep


[07-Aug-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/CraigSilverman/status/1291437989101543424

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https://twitter.com/CraigSilverman/status/1291437989101543424
SCOOP: Facebok employees collected evidence showing preferential treatment of right wing figures. FB policy ppl removed misinfo strikes from Breitbart, PragerU, and Diamond & Silk, according to internal docs. And FB fired a key employee who gathered info: https://t.co/W7IAcgH...
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[07-Aug-20 08:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm not surprised


[07-Aug-20 08:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Conservatives" whine and cry and shit everything up so much that just _looking_ at them makes them start bawling their eyes and and crying about being oppressed and censored because they can't be complete shitheaps to other people without consequence


[07-Aug-20 08:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Company promotes other companies that help it"


[07-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You think most people get stupid conservative conspiracy theories from Breitbart itself?


[07-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't sneeze without one of them going "ARE YOU TRYING TO SILENCE ME, TALK OVER ME, FUCKING LIBCUCK SJW!?!?"


[07-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Breitbart itself, no, the comment section though, it's like a hospital's biohazard garbage


[07-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of people have the Shapiro syndrome too, where you can't just refuse a debate


[07-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sir this is a Wendy's"


[07-Aug-20 08:52 AM] Crow#5457
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[07-Aug-20 09:08 AM] wren#0114

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[07-Aug-20 09:31 AM] Opponent#3498
```For a man that says he knows about deals, this is peak stupid```
I think he simply doesn't know. There's either nobody brave enough to tell him or when they did, he laughed it off and said 'come on, it can't be that bad, it's just some chinese companies'


[07-Aug-20 09:33 AM] Opponent#3498
```It's gonna harm china much, much more and that's a good thing.```
also uh, no, not really :D Imagine disrupting money flow for the entire industry sector of your country amidst the plague. This isn't 'we'll nuke them and deal with the consequences', this is 'we'll nuke ourselves so the enemy can't reap the spoils of the war they've already won'


[07-Aug-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
also, re: dismantling China, they've been preparing for exactly this since forever. They are ready for any overt agression and US really, really isn't :D


[07-Aug-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
```And a more-than-plural amount of the population in Germany was pro-Nazi. It was still right to march in and dismantle that government on a basic human rights level.```
tbh I've always believed the primary reason US went to war on allies' side was because it was better for business. They're the only nation who 'won' WW2 and became a superpower off of that, primarily economic, success. Nations trying to practice autarchy and self-sufficiency (stubbornly enough that it cripples their strategic plans and war effort) aren't great trading partners, after all. The 'morality' in pre-Cold War era was an afterthought, if that.


[07-Aug-20 09:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If universe expansion is real then why is my dick shrinking


[07-Aug-20 09:45 AM] Opponent#3498
```what about a cold war, do we pull the trigger or let then make the move```
by that time overt direct military action was out of the question anyway. MAD was and remains a powerful thing; even if back then 'nuclear gap' was a myth made to bloat US military budgets and the soviets had vastly inferior tech where it mattered, they had _enough_. The Bomb decisively puts an end to any large-scale conventional warfare.


[07-Aug-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
```The West hates Chinese more than they hate Muslims```
the West buys Iphones from Chinese and bombs Muslims for their oil :twismug:  It's not even a competition. So, unfortunately, no.


[07-Aug-20 09:47 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The T mans just fucking shit up all across the board


[07-Aug-20 09:47 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And yet no ones tried to pull a JFK.


[07-Aug-20 09:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Truly one of the greater tragedies in our age.


[07-Aug-20 10:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Aug-20 10:51 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
>surnamed Liang
fuck


[07-Aug-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/over-100-people-quarantined-mississippi-school-district-after-several-test-n1236012

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[07-Aug-20 02:56 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nazis-infiltrate-my-little-pony-fandom-637665

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Nazis infiltrate ‘My Little Pony’ fandom
How did the fanbase around a children’s show preaching kindness and acceptance become a home for White Supremacists and the far Right?
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[07-Aug-20 02:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
Just shut the fuck up.
Please, just shut the fuck up...


[07-Aug-20 02:58 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
?


[07-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I love that they have a dedicated folder for 'antisemitism', given what Israel as a nation is doing :D


[07-Aug-20 03:00 PM] wren#0114
>Jerusalem Post / Diaspora / Antisemitism / dilarus

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[07-Aug-20 03:01 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
what...


[07-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
we all know where this comes from bud xD


[07-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately, it's also stale news, like 2 months old?


[07-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Opponent#3498
dead meme territory


[07-Aug-20 03:04 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Media was too slow to catch up to this drama yet when PewDiePie gets accused of being antisemitic they were fast


[07-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, it's just a couple desperates trying their best.


[07-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Opponent#3498
atlantic post was way scarier.


[07-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Opponent#3498
they'll keep trying though, I believe in them. This is now their sole mission in life, to bring down Derpi


[07-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Opponent#3498
we all have our dreams. Just gotta believe xD


[07-Aug-20 03:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/A0jFW5WSkQEaKiyJUiH1ufw

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5 ways to create your own stimulus check — CNBC
While lawmakers in Washington debate the terms of another stimulus package and the size of any relief payments, there are steps you can take to craft one on your own.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQWwwMER4MHJNUVl1RGVRMTdyNzFINVEAMA


[07-Aug-20 04:02 PM] byte[]#2610
deappled https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/5-ways-to-build-your-own-stimulus-check.html

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5 ways to create your own stimulus check
While lawmakers in Washington debate the terms of another stimulus package and the size of any relief payments, there are steps you can take to craft one on your own.
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[07-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit

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To counterfeit means to imitate something authentic, with the intent to steal, destroy, or replace the original, for use in illegal transactions, or otherwise to deceive individuals into believing that the fake is of equal or greater value than the real thing. Counterfeit prod...
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[07-Aug-20 04:16 PM] wren#0114
good suggestions in that article


[07-Aug-20 04:16 PM] wren#0114
except wtf on this one

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[07-Aug-20 04:22 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Aug-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Aug-20 04:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Apparently Jordan Peterson got covid

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[07-Aug-20 04:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/08/06/americans-amazed-by-fancy-new-australian-technique-called-journalism/

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[07-Aug-20 04:48 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1291583408955482112?s=21 gay I said

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Polish MPs create rainbow flag with their outfits to protest president's swearing-in ceremony
Opposition MPs in Poland attended President Andzej Duda’s swearing-in ceremony in outfits coordinated to look like a rainbow flag, showing solidarity with the LGBTQ community. Duda has been openly opposed to extending LGBTQ rights in the country.
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[07-Aug-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[07-Aug-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
Self aware


[07-Aug-20 05:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[07-Aug-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/511033-chinese-firms-stock-plummet-following-trump-order

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Chinese firms' stock plummet following Trump order
Chinese tech company Tencent has seen its stock tumble after President Trump signed a pair of executive orders Thu
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[07-Aug-20 05:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/expansionist-china-eyes-tajik-territory/articleshow/77404479.cms

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China Tajikistan Border Dispute: Expansionist China eyes Tajik terr...
China News: Tajikistan has been worried since Chinese official media has repeatedly said in the past weeks that the Pamir mountains should be ceded to China. Chin
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[07-Aug-20 05:59 PM] ononim#8141
bro, bro listen, listen bro, bro it is not imperialism I swear bro


[07-Aug-20 06:16 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
ive never seen our official media mentiomed this montain


[07-Aug-20 06:18 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i can't find any recent news about it as well


[07-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Phelan#7647
>Chinese firms stock plummets
Always good to have some good news.


[07-Aug-20 06:18 PM] byte[]#2610
>plummets
>dipped by 5%


[07-Aug-20 06:19 PM] byte[]#2610
just sensationalist reporting


[07-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Phelan#7647
Wish it was more tho.


[07-Aug-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
emm...


[07-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Sesationalist" it is standard trope to attract reader, because as per that TED talk, people only pay attention to "screaming" headers.


[07-Aug-20 06:20 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Aug-20 06:21 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[07-Aug-20 06:22 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
the technology stocks are mainly affected


[07-Aug-20 06:23 PM] AlchemistLiang#0728
hopefully the military industry stocks ive bought will still be raising in such a condition


[07-Aug-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/511027-appeals-court-revives-houses-mcgahn-subpoena

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Appeals court rules against Trump, says House can sue to enforce Mc...
A federal appeals court on Friday upheld the House's subpoena of former White House counsel Don McGahn, ruling that Congress has the right to enforce its subpoenas in court.
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[07-Aug-20 07:23 PM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is/IPETt (WP)


[07-Aug-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
> “I don’t regret calling it a n----r,” Eckerle told Interlochen Public Radio. “A n----r is a n----r is a n----r. That’s not a person whatsoever.”

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[07-Aug-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh


[07-Aug-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114
gross


[07-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
bruh intensifies.


[07-Aug-20 10:01 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/2F3Uyuj

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China working against Trump's reelection, while Russia spreads disi...
William R. Evanina released a report on foreign election interference Friday.
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[07-Aug-20 10:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Sike


[07-Aug-20 10:10 PM] jlun2#8758
i guess china got sick of trumps trade shenanigans


[07-Aug-20 10:12 PM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck the CCP.


[07-Aug-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/canadians-fed-up-with-unwanted-american-border-crossers-who-think-the-is-a-farce-report/

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Canadians fed up with ‘unwanted’ American border crossers who think...
Canadians are getting tired of seeing citizens from the disease-ridden United States illegally cross into their country. In a dispatch for the New York Times, reporter Karen Schwartz, who has dual American and Canadian citizenship, describes how many Canadians are rushing to r...
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[07-Aug-20 10:57 PM] illumnious#7938
oooof


[07-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kind of weird that China is supposedly against Trump's reelection. His continued presence in WH is the greatest gift for them


[07-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
4D chess, have their flunkies work against Trump so it leaks, make people want to vote for Trump to "spite China", while their A-listers and true intent want Trump to stay in power


[07-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What? Anyone can play this idiot game of believing whatever they want to believe


[07-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually kinda sad Trump's TikTok ban doesn't go further


[07-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Chinese nationals shouldn't be able to own any part of a tech or pharma company based in the US


[07-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
I wouldn't expect too much from the ban. Yeah, long-term it would be great. Short- to mid-term? No cheap Iphones would be poison for any election campaign.


[07-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Phelan#7647
This unironically, the ban should go much further.
Another thing that should be added is Chinese sole citizens shouldn't be allowed to purchase property in the US. Only fair, they don't allow westerners to buy a house.


[07-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I would disagree but didn't know China didn't allow that, so yes, reciprocate.


[07-Aug-20 11:18 PM] wren#0114
screw fair, they're literally concentration camping their minorities


[07-Aug-20 11:18 PM] wren#0114
forced abortions


[07-Aug-20 11:18 PM] wren#0114
forced sterilizations


[07-Aug-20 11:19 PM] wren#0114
forced indoctrination


[07-Aug-20 11:19 PM] wren#0114
and now I must sleep


[07-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Phelan#7647
I meant that more as a joke, but decoupling is honestly the best thing that the West should do but no politicians have the balls to commit all the way.


[07-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Confucian Institutes or whatever the CCP propaganda offices are at American universities should be banned


[07-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
it would hurt the economy like a motherfucker. And, yeah, they need to get reelected after all.


[07-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless the US can open equivalent ones in Mainland China


[07-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What am I saying, you can't even talk about Mao or Marx at universities in Mainland China


[07-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
how would US equivalent even look like? Borgar studies? :derpchrys:


[07-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Phelan#7647
Confucius Institutes is what they're called.
I bet they're also responsible for a lot of stolen research at universities as well.


[07-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/JePoGQs

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For-profit healthcare fucking sucks
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[07-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Phelan#7647
Good thing is that hating China isn't a left/right thing

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[07-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
'don't know' responses not shown.


[07-Aug-20 11:25 PM] jlun2#8758
i hope they hate the gov & not the ppl


[07-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't that useful. And yes, the younger people have vested interest in cheap shit and Fortnite.


[07-Aug-20 11:26 PM] jlun2#8758
young ppl dont vote shit so who cares about them


[07-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511105-kanye-west-not-denying-his-campaign-seeks-to-damage-biden

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Kanye West 'not denying' his campaign seeks to damage Biden
Kanye West punted when asked in an interview with Forbes on Friday if the goal of his last-minute presidential campaign was to siphon votes from presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/westkanye_071920upi2_lead.jpg


[07-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
the China issue isn't like Trump issue though. It's long-term.


[07-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Phelan#7647
It's a pew poll, probably best that you're gonna get. Also, usually when you refer to a country by name, you're referring to the government (especially in the case of China, where it's not even a democracy)


[07-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
In the US, a democracy, you can rant on a street corner about how capitalists are corrupt, Marx was right, and how workers are being taken advantage of


[07-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't do that in China, supposedly a communist state


[07-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
of course not. It's a paradise, like USSR was.


[07-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
suggesting otherwise makes you a saboteur.


[07-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Oh, what I mean is that you can't really fault the Chinese people for having Xi be in power when there's literally no other option.
Also, here's the full results from the survey. Raw data is at the bottom in the PDF https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/07/30/us-views-china-2020-covid-methodology/

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About Pew Research Center’s Summer 2020 Global Attitudes Survey Results for the survey are based on telephone interviews conducted under the direction of
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[07-Aug-20 11:30 PM] jlun2#8758
china is the weird 1 party country that is trying to raise hundreds of ppl out of poverty.
every single other 1 party is like dirt poor & corrupt


[07-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Opponent#3498
they're interested in world domination. The leadership is also smart enough to realise you need a strong backbone to have a shot at it.


[07-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, investment in third worlds that the West has ignored.


[07-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Phelan#7647
Eh, I feel that's more of a byproduct of industrialization than anything else.


[07-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Belt and Road is what will make this the Chinese Century


[07-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wait, why is a major language of every sub-Saharan African country Mandarin?"


[07-Aug-20 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.tvp.info/49320654/osoba-z-teczowa-flaga-weszla-na-pomnik-ofiar-tragedii-smolenskiej

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Osoba z tęczową flagą weszła na Pomnik Ofiar Tragedii Smoleńskiej
Kilkudziesięciu aktywistów LGBT protestuje na Krakowskim Przedmieściu w Warszawie.
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[07-Aug-20 11:35 PM] ononim#8141
LGBT riot after court sentences trans woman for vandalising anti-LGBT propaganda truck


[07-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
this is how slavs like to party :3


[07-Aug-20 11:38 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking i thought it was because white businesses are scared of them while china isnt


[07-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
businesses are scared to invest somewhere where CIA is probably preparing next ISIS or something (the show must go on). China has no problem trading with ISIS, or kurds, or Assad, or anyone else.


[07-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Opponent#3498
different approach. It really is liberating when you don't give two shits about optics.


[07-Aug-20 11:41 PM] jlun2#8758
||was thinking more of racism instead but|| that works too


[07-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
actually, hating china is both a left/right wing thing


[07-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Crow#5457
just for different reasons


[07-Aug-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
well, yeah. The boomers see them as 'those damn communists' :derpchrys:


[07-Aug-20 11:43 PM] Crow#5457
the left hates china primarily for the human rights violations, the right hates them for stealing all the jobs/being "communist"


[07-Aug-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I've seen more than one professed right winger say that China destroying the Uighur culture was "based"


[07-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
it certainly fits their strategy. One nation under ~~God~~ ~~sun~~ The Party.


[07-Aug-20 11:50 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure thats why americans nor other countries arent rushing to save them; if it were a certain middle east non muslim culture they go all fire & fury


[07-Aug-20 11:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[07-Aug-20 11:51 PM] jlun2#8758
im not a white male. if i go to us now will i get shot


[07-Aug-20 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
why would you to us anyway


[07-Aug-20 11:52 PM] ononim#8141
'tis a silly place


[07-Aug-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
brainless tourist


[07-Aug-20 11:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The toorist


[08-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/durkan-vetoes-seattle-councils-plan-to-spend-86-million-from-emergency-reserves-on-covid-19-relief/

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Durkan vetoes Seattle Council’s plan to spend $86 million from emer...
The City Council's vote on the COVID-19 crisis bill was unanimous, suggesting Durkan's veto likely will be overridden.
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[08-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Crow#5457
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[08-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tom Nook provides no-interest, no stress loans to minorities, don't drag him into this


[08-Aug-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tom nook is one of the best land lords ever


[08-Aug-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you literally never have to pay him again unless you want to upgrade your home


[08-Aug-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.citizensforethics.org/epa-destroys-water-quality-records-deceives-archivist/

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Linnaea Honl-Stuenkel
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EPA Destroys Water Quality Records, Deceives Archivist - CREW
The EPA illegally destroyed records, deceived the NARA about that destruction, and falsely blamed the coronavirus pandemic to escape accountability.
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[08-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
EPA


[08-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
more like..... ||EPGay||


[08-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Synfag#9241
https://twitter.com/BoundingComics/status/1291769394939518976

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Guardians Of The Galaxy’s Zoe Saldana Apologizes For Not Being Black Enough To Portray Nina Simone in 2016 Bio Pic https://t.co/hXCYWhLpV9
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[08-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Synfag#9241
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA

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WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint ov...
Ryan Whitaker was sitting at home with his girlfriend playing video games when he was killed by police.
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[08-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pretty good reason why armed cops with shit for training shouldn't be dealing with noise complaints


[08-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Gamers rise up


[08-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/us/north-paulding-high-school-coronavirus-georgia.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/us/north-paulding-high-school-coronavirus-georgia.html
Suspension Lifted of Georgia Student Who Posted Photos of Crowded Hall
“The photo does not look good,” the district’s superintendent acknowledged in a letter to parents, but said wearing masks in school could not be mandated.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/08/06/us/06virus-hallway/06virus-hallway-facebookJumbo.jpg


[08-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> “Wearing a mask is a personal choice, and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them,”


[08-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
However _taking pictures_ apparently very easy to enforce


[08-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As is dress code


[08-Aug-20 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, suspending people who are trying to do the right thing is totally going to work out for you in the future


[08-Aug-20 02:05 AM] byte[]#2610
glad I was able to graduate from my stupidass high school before they could fabricate a case to expel me


[08-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/alexandria-rape-suspect-freed-due-to-virus-kills-accuser-police/2384724/

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Andrea Swalec
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Alexandria Rape Suspect Killed Accuser, Police Say
Police in Virginia say that a rape suspect released from jail amid the coronavirus pandemic went on to kill the woman who had accused him. Ibrahim E. Bouaichi was tracked down by authorities on Wednesday, The Washington Post reports. But he shot himself and was in grave condit...
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[08-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
jesus christ


[08-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Crow#5457
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[08-Aug-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao


[08-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
deblacked


[08-Aug-20 02:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
why the fuck do they release the prisoners


[08-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Crow#5457
because they can't guarantee their safety from the virus, some jails don't even have running water, let alone soap/hand sanitizer/masks/etc


[08-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because the prisons are too full of non-violent drug offence criminals


[08-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And whoever's deciding who to release and who not to just doesn't give a shit


[08-Aug-20 02:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
why not just quarantine them in the prison


[08-Aug-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of room


[08-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Because the prisons are too full of non-violent drug offence criminals


[08-Aug-20 02:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
now the hospital lack of room even more


[08-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/511140-trump-draws-cheers-after-defending-supporters-lack-of-masks-at-briefing-as

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Trump draws cheers after defending supporters' lack of masks at bri...
A crowd of supporters at President Trump's news conference in Bedminster, N.J., on Friday booed when a reporter pointed out that many of the guests lacked face masks as coronavirus cases were rising.
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[08-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anyone violating the mask law should be arrested.


[08-Aug-20 02:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-biden-presidential-debates_n_5f2bf74ac5b6b9cff7edf32c

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Trump Says He Wants Debates To Start Early Because Of Mail-In Voting
The president tweeted that his first debate with Democrat Joe Biden should be earlier than the current schedule, which starts Sept. 29.
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[08-Aug-20 02:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Bring it on.


[08-Aug-20 02:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
>3 months of debates


[08-Aug-20 02:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤤


[08-Aug-20 03:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our Trump is best! Crush Biden into pieces!


[08-Aug-20 03:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
I just want to watch them both make fools of themselves.


[08-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Synfag#9241
I can see this happening again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1gdYHSKP0I

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Jeb Bush is Weak
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[08-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Phelan#7647
I genuinely would love to see extra debates.


[08-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jimantle/status/1291898086541930503

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The 2020 Libertarian Party presidential nominee has been bitten by a possibly rabid bat.
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[08-Aug-20 03:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember when people actually thought third parties were a solution


[08-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until they have any funding they'll just be joke parties with crazy clowns and rich clowns


[08-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only they were joke parties and not actually incredibly harmful spoilers who distract people

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[08-Aug-20 03:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the actual solution is not to live in a country full of stupid people


[08-Aug-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
then the voting system and the parties don't matter quite so much


[08-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well


[08-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess that leaves us... Madagascar?


[08-Aug-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
I know I know, if you're homeless just buy a house


[08-Aug-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
You can thank me for my infinite wisdom later

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[08-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INbRpclIFsE

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duMortier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INbRpclIFsE
Just some guys singing a song
Nothing to see here. Move along. 

Definitely don’t subscribe or smash any buttons.
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[08-Aug-20 04:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
`incredibly harmful`
They're not that harmful.


[08-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
George Wallace, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, and Gary Johnson would disagree with you.


[08-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's much, much more effective to help make a platform with a party that actually has a chance.


[08-Aug-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/bar-complaint-claims-kanye-wests-campaign-lawyer-is-violating-the-rules-by-simultaneously-working-for-trump/

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Bar Complaint Claims Kanye West’s Campaign Lawyer is Violating the ...
A government watchdog group filed a bar complaint against West campaign attorney Lane Ruhland, claiming she’s violating conflict of interest rules by still working for Donald Trump.
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[08-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/ShawnFetta/status/1291095091407392768?

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This is what Kanye's petition signatures look like in WI. #ElectionTwitter #wipolitics #wiunion
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[08-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
:wheeze:


[08-Aug-20 04:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
How is that harmful though?


[08-Aug-20 04:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Being impotent doesn't make you harmful.


[08-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It takes away votes that would otherwise go to similar people


[08-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
syphons idiots and idealists into sending their ballots straight to the trash, usually from one "side", thus giving more power to the other "side" that actually has less people in it


[08-Aug-20 04:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
That isn't always a bad thing.


[08-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Allowing votes of certain ideologies to be split


[08-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You see it a lot in european electoral systems


[08-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes it is, it means they never win an election


[08-Aug-20 04:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
It means the similar candidates just weren't good enough to hold onto their constituents.


[08-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine three samey Republicans running against one Democrat


[08-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Where the left/right dynamic is something like 65/35, but due to party splits and minimum number of votes to get a seat, seat distributions ends up being 45/55


[08-Aug-20 04:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
That doesn't make it harmful.


[08-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also re: the bar thing, yeah this is weird, the only way out is to say she's basically helping to run a fake political campaign


[08-Aug-20 04:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
Also, third parties can influence existing parties by their mere existence.
Like the Tea Party with Republicans, and the Democratic Socialists among the Democrats.


[08-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except those aren't third parties


[08-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's better to become a powerful wing in an existing party rather than have your own


[08-Aug-20 04:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yes they are. Third parties aren't mutually exclusive.


[08-Aug-20 04:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think you should do what you think is right and let voters decide.


[08-Aug-20 04:28 AM] byte[]#2610
normally I would agree with you except the voters are retarded

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[08-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You're the guy that says he only cares about politics for the drama


[08-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So excuse me if I ignore your advice

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[08-Aug-20 04:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you assume voters are retarded, democracy is doomed.

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[08-Aug-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
yep


[08-Aug-20 04:29 AM] byte[]#2610
I see no other way out of it, we are too poisoned to continue

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[08-Aug-20 04:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Democracy relies on faith in the electorate to make rational decisions.


[08-Aug-20 04:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Of course, when democracy was concieved, only rich/educated/privileged people could vote.


[08-Aug-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
the electorate (not even the full electorate, mind you) decided a bunch of old white guys who are plundering the government coffers for tax money to enrich themselves during a pandemic are the rightful leaders of this country


[08-Aug-20 04:30 AM] byte[]#2610
we are doomed

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[08-Aug-20 04:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's part of why I think third parties are the least of our concerns.
Because fuck it.


[08-Aug-20 04:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking wtf @ sig


[08-Aug-20 04:37 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow ty, but feel like that will be taken down fast


[08-Aug-20 04:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
Third parties are only harmful to the party they're most similar to, and that's not necessarily the best party, so it can't be said that third parties are in any way inherently "harmful".


[08-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Phelan#7647
It's not "bad" to run as a 3rd party candidate or independent or whatever. Only person to most accurately represent your views are yourself.


[08-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The only person to not twist your views and quotes into their own opinion is yourself

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[08-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Phelan#7647
Honestly, telling people who to vote for is pretty gross or telling people that they're throwing away their vote is pretty gross.


[08-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Marches[45]#0674
RCV or bust


[08-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird

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[08-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Oof, need some ointment for that bite mark?


[08-Aug-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who were viciously pro-Green/Libertarian in 2016 and now practically every week whine about Trump and say "How could this have happened" so


[08-Aug-20 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I certainly would ask someone if they're sure of their course of action if they intend to vote third party as a protest vote, particularly if what they're protesting is only one of the two leading candidates


[08-Aug-20 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that such a voter is likely not going to inform themselves on any down-ballot races either


[08-Aug-20 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Ross Perot is a one-man list of examples of how a third party vote can and has been a spoil vote


[08-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
1992 was a weird election in general mainly because it was hated incumbent vs. literal who plus popular independent running at the time unprecedented campaign


[08-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ralph Nader was a worse spoiler, however.


[08-Aug-20 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah sorry that's the name I meant, mixed 'em up


[08-Aug-20 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's why I don't think the idea of voting third party in the US is an independent opinion, btw: It's common knowledge that we have a two-party system. Therefore any third-party campaigns are likely to be highly targeted at particular voting demographics; this is especially true if someone has a vested interest in *spoiling* a certain demographic. For instance, an incumbent who isn't afraid to play dirty (and violate election law) to gain the upper hand, or an outside force looking to destabilize a foreign country by sowing discord in their election. There were a lot more third-party votes in 2016 that just happened to correlate to the degree of astroturfing that the GRU/IRA did in bolstering campaigns like Jill Stein's


[08-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Phelan#7647
@Teaspoon what are jokes?


[08-Aug-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Poe's law.


[08-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Things only some people are allowed to do

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[08-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Phelan#7647
I think what I said was pretty obviously a joke, satire of the "it's a Dem/Republican race, a vote for [x] is a vote for [opposing candidate]" shit.


[08-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Marches[45]#0674
It’s just a joke, bro.


[08-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I've learned very quickly that "I think what I said was pretty obviously a joke" doesn't translate as a joke to a large number of people that want to believe what they want to believe and care little about anything else


[08-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Phelan#7647
Well, I suppose you're right, lots of people fall for Onion articles, with or without satire tags.


[08-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Back to the topic of third parties, I'd love for them to be viable (and 4th and 5th...)

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[08-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But currently, in the US, they are not


[08-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Both major parties present themselves as diametrically opposed, as is society in general, and any third party is either too fringe or too middle ground to act as anything but a spoiler for one or the other


[08-Aug-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think third parties help to keep bigger ones on their toes.


[08-Aug-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they would if there were any ground to lose


[08-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd need one or both parties to outright implode, or for them to be too similar (in content _and_ messaging), for a third party to stand a chance at actually gaining any power worth having and not just syphoning a few percentage points away from one of the parties


[08-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Phelan#7647
The green party and libertarian party are effectively pressure groups.


[08-Aug-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
Republicans have to stay to the right to not get out-trumped by tea party guys.


[08-Aug-20 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the tea party is the republican party now. The republican party line has basically become their talking points


[08-Aug-20 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Anyone who speaks up against it, like Romney, is excommunicated from the party more or less


[08-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Phelan#7647
Romney is a snake.


[08-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Phelan#7647
And he owes me $150


[08-Aug-20 05:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
Sounds like the Tea party was successful then.


[08-Aug-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was, as far as the Koch bros, the Heritage foundation, and the Federalist society are concerned


[08-Aug-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Maybe other third parties could do the same.


[08-Aug-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They never were a third party


[08-Aug-20 05:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
They were an enclave of the Republican party, but a third party nonetheless.


[08-Aug-20 05:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
Kind of like Democratic Socialists.


[08-Aug-20 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember this: The tea party was sponsored by the *leading* voices in republican think tanks


[08-Aug-20 05:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it wasn't a splinter cell, it was a distraction


[08-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, if the Tea Party and Trump were able to effectively radically change the GOP, why can't factions of the left do the same with the Democrat party.


[08-Aug-20 05:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
The tea party basically chest-bursted out of the Republican party and replaced it


[08-Aug-20 05:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
But for a notable period of time, they were indeed a third party.


[08-Aug-20 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Mostly because their strategies only work for radicalizing towards the right, and right now moderates are becoming much more unpopular within the Democratic party; that kind of division has existed there for a while. the dems don't move in lockstep


[08-Aug-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
A party within a party, but a third party nonetheless.
Just because you're third party doesn't mean you can't run as a member of another party.


[08-Aug-20 05:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
However, if you want an example of the progressive movement taking over the Democratic party, one only needs to look at Sanders


[08-Aug-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
We, we'll see.
Imo, the Democratic party as it is is horribly corrupt, elitist, and led by shitheads. It needs a strong overhaul.


[08-Aug-20 05:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hopefully something will replace it.


[08-Aug-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, the DNC is rather obviously corrupt, but they're still playing the game of keeping up appearances which means they still make an effort to play by the rules. So far as I can tell, that spell has been broken on the right, and refuge in audacity means that something like the entire Trump family violating the Hatch act barely even makes headlines now


[08-Aug-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck the DNC. They spent all this time blaming Russia for those leaks, when they could have avoided all if that by not keeping horrible secrets.


[08-Aug-20 05:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
The Republican Party has become somewhat of a cult of personality... Not sustainable in the long term. It'll be interesting to see what a post-trump GOP looks like.


[08-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Hope it goes up in flames.


[08-Aug-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nah, it'll just change


[08-Aug-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
I hope both parties go up in flames though.

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[08-Aug-20 05:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't really see any way out of it except for them to bring forth someone to avenge Trump's defeat and martyrdom and rewrite history. I don't think it'll be any of his kids; dynasties are pretty unpopular in the US, though that reasoning may have gone out the window since the last election. Kushner's also way too close to the action


[08-Aug-20 05:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then again, it may not even matter who they pick, if they're able to pull off the sequence of events they seem to be setting up in invalidating the 2020 election entirely


[08-Aug-20 05:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
Imagine if Trump is followed by SuperTrump.


[08-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2024 GOP nominee will be Ivanka Trump or Tucker Carlson, those are my guesses.


[08-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Marches[45]#0674
If you had to pick one and not the other, which would you want more: Mitch McCuntface out of the Senate or Trump out of office?


[08-Aug-20 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
this may be surprising, but McConnell, any day of the week


[08-Aug-20 05:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Trump leaves office in no more than 4 years.
Mitch is in it for life.


[08-Aug-20 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
McConnell is also the man who sold his soul and the United States to boot, and Oleg Deripaska is the man who bought 'em both


[08-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://abovethelaw.com/2020/08/ncbe-prez-issues-threat-to-tie-up-licenses-of-bar-exam-critics/

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NCBE Prez Issues Threat To Tie Up Licenses Of Bar Exam Critics
There's definitely a Character & Fitness to practice problem here, but it belongs to the NCBE, not the applicants.
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[08-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Marches[45]#0674
McConnell needs to be thrown down the steps of Capitol Hill.


[08-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Don't mock our person who heads a company that writes bar exams for never taking a bar exam, or you'll never be an attorney ever!"


[08-Aug-20 06:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tbh, I admire McConnel's shrewd political cunning. He's a clever eat bastard, and he's in it for the long term game.


[08-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Like, he is responsible for why the GOP has been able to fill so many federal judge appointtees. That really is his legacy in the party, because he's set the face of the American judicial system for decades to come.

Denying Obama his Supreme Court pick was a jackass stunt, but a shrewd one nonetheless: it gave Republicans a reason to vote for Trump.


[08-Aug-20 06:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Truly a ruthless politician.


[08-Aug-20 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think it's his cunning that made all that happen - ultimately, maybe yes in that his political gambits are how he wound up making himself so powerful, but a lot of *that* is due to outside help, and now it's just a matter of wielding that power like a kudgel


[08-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've said it before, but there's essentially a bunch of mini presidents with how much House/Senate Majority leaders have


[08-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus Minority leaders


[08-Aug-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Either way, the GOP owes him for all those federal judges, because wew, Trump has been appointing them left and right.


[08-Aug-20 06:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
All that lockstep and obstructionism during the Obama administration really paid off.


[08-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the head of the Federalist Society really wants Trump impeached so badly/wants to stifle his presidency, stop recommending appointments.


[08-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not to say the American Constitution Society recommends appointments to Democratic presidents based on their qualifications, no


[08-Aug-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the head of the federalist society didn't really have a problem with Trump until quite recently, by my understanding


[08-Aug-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
after all, their wunderkind is Barr


[08-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah


[08-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Grab Mitch by the loose flabs of skin on his chin neck and hurl him out of DC.


[08-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it's definitely going to be a trend by Democratic presidents in future years to avoid nominating career judges at all


[08-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think we just caught a glimpse of Crow's political platform


[08-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or at least not look to the DC Circuit so much


[08-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems a bit radical


[08-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Crow#5457
posted it in the wrong channel


[08-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Too late, already sent in my ballot with a write-in


[08-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Top three nominees for SCOTUS in a Biden admin are IMO: Amy Berman Jackson, Leondra Kruger, and Ketanji Brown Jackson


[08-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
God two Jacksons would be weird


[08-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is of course assuming that Breyer and Ginsburg resign basically right after another and then Thomas dies


[08-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh man, inb4 some newscaster gets _destroyed_ over saying "Jackson and Brown Jackson" to clarify things


[08-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or some other way with those three involved


[08-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Heaven help us if Senator Whitehouse ever decides to run for president


[08-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Whitehouse White House

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[08-Aug-20 06:21 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/us/politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-election.amp.html

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Joe Arpaio Loses Arizona Primary to Reclaim His Old Job as Sheriff
Voters instead backed Jerry Sheridan, Mr. Arpaio’s former chief deputy, who promised to revive many of Mr. Arpaio’s policies but without the showmanship.
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[08-Aug-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/russia-ukraine-trump-biden-intelligence-foreign-interference-election.html

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[08-Aug-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Now everyone's going to go back to screaming REEE RUSSIA HOAX RUSSIA


[08-Aug-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
Even though it was never a hoax and the illegal foreign interference and collusion on behalf of the campaign staff has been widely established


[08-Aug-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
What no one wants you to remember is that the original special counsel investigation was whether Russia was interfering in our election. It became a partisan circus when that special counsel was fired after it started becoming evident that there was a connection between Russia and just about everyone in Trump's election staff


[08-Aug-20 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and what Mueller determined without a doubt, and was independently backed up by the senate intel committee, is that Russia unequivocally interfered in the election


[08-Aug-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
if that's what nobody wants me to remember then why is it like the only thing I remembered (this god damn fucking presidency...)


[08-Aug-20 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because you are smart and didn't fall for the narrative about the Steele Dossier reversing the order of events (or even being more than tangentially relevant; the GOP wants you to believe it is central to the whole thing)


[08-Aug-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The narrative the republicans want you to think is that crooked hillary hired steele to get dirt on Trump, the Feds launched an investigation of Trump over it, and all roads lead to Russia because it's all a hoax


[08-Aug-20 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and you know it's a hoax because no one in the mueller investigation could answer questions about the steele dossier, and mueller himself couldn't say whether Trump had colluded with Russia (shh never mind the reality that Barr made Mueller think he literally couldn't draw any conclusions from the mountain of evidence he'd collected of collusion because it wasn't his job and wasn't technically conspiracy despite the fact that it was)


[08-Aug-20 06:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-qanon-idUSKCN2530H6

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Facebook said on Thursday it had removed one of the largest public groups devoted to the QAnon web of conspiracy theories after repeated violations of the company's policies.
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[08-Aug-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
how is that still a thing


[08-Aug-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
your parents


[08-Aug-20 08:45 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mexopolis/status/1291872717310840833

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[08-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Synfag#9241
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[08-Aug-20 09:43 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-are-defacing-reddit-with-pro-trump-messages/

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Hackers are defacing Reddit with pro-Trump messages | ZDNet
BREAKING: Massive hack hits Reddit.
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[08-Aug-20 11:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the de facto leader of the US' evangelical right


[08-Aug-20 11:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
alcohol is one hell of a drug


[08-Aug-20 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
he's just doing it to trigger the libs.


[08-Aug-20 11:30 AM] Opponent#3498
he's also on a boat so it's a double whammy.


[08-Aug-20 11:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
INTERNATIONAL WATERS


[08-Aug-20 11:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/lousiana-court-denies-life-sentence-appeal-fair-wayne-bryant-black-man-hedge-clippers

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Fair Wayne Bryant was sentenced to life in prison in 1997 for attempted simple burglary, and justices rejected his recent appeal
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[08-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
again though, he's fucked either way. 0 chance at recovering even if he was to be released.


[08-Aug-20 12:10 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[08-Aug-20 12:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-sign-executive-order-on-covering-preexisting-conditions-2020-8

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Trump said he's going to sign an executive order requiring health i...
Trump, since taking office in 2017, has sought to repeal or undermine President Barack Obama's signature law.
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[08-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Trump said he's going to sign an executive order requiring health insurers to cover preexisting conditions. That's already the current law under Obamacare, which Trump has repeatedly tried to repeal


[08-Aug-20 12:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for the FOX NEWS coverage of how Trump is basically Jesus Christ son of God reborn


[08-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Honestly I am _still_ shocked by how much of a tabloid format FOX NEWS' site is like


[08-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Every article is clickbait; a loaded question, "you won't believe which X is Y", or just inflammatory "LIBS ADVOCATE FOR MURDERING COPS' BABIES"


[08-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's at that weird point where _Breitbart_ is a more honest news source


[08-Aug-20 12:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you pretend the comment section isn't full of... well, words fail to properly convey what's unleashed there


[08-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait hold up


[08-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If Biden wins, he'd be only the _second_ catholic president ever elected


[08-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only other one being JFK


[08-Aug-20 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Aug-20 12:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511138-new-postmaster-general-overhauls-usps-leadership-amid-probe-into-mail

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New postmaster general overhauls USPS leadership amid probe into ma...
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy announced an overhaul of the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) on Friday, removing the top two officials in charge of day-to-day operations as Democrats in Washington call for an investigation into changes that have slowed mail delivery.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/usps02202015getty.jpg


[08-Aug-20 01:42 PM] Synfag#9241
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[08-Aug-20 02:04 PM] Opponent#3498
re: USPS I mean it's only fair


[08-Aug-20 02:06 PM] Opponent#3498
if you can't legislate something away, make it impossible to implement it.


[08-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
also re: racism as a disease, that's the prime opportunity for resurgence of punitive medicine.


[08-Aug-20 03:45 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It is okay if they are NAZIS :twismug:


[08-Aug-20 03:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not okay if you define anyone who disagree with you as nazi


[08-Aug-20 03:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok but what if they're literally nazis?


[08-Aug-20 03:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Imagine finding a literal nazi still alive in 2020


[08-Aug-20 04:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1291819990061113347?s=19

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Ollie Vargas (@OVargas52)
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Bolivia's regime is terrorising the population by sending planes to fly at almost ground level over protesters. They're preparing for a massacre.
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[08-Aug-20 04:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/th1an1/status/1291857698770882563

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Everything has stopped in #Bolivia!
More than 75 highways and roads have been blocked across the country. 
Social movements and trade unions stress that their demand is no longer just democratic elections, but also the immediate removal of the entire coup-installed government...
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[08-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Tfw USA backed Hugo Banzer's coup back in time.


[08-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
> Imagine finding a literal nazi still alive in 2020
I mean they found that one SS guard :D


[08-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, I remember that. Was pretty surprised they did, and the guy is still alive.


[08-Aug-20 04:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/511161-judges-cite-roberts-opinion-to-allow-arkansas-abortion-restrictions

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Judges cite Roberts opinion to allow Arkansas abortion restrictions...
A federal appeals court in Arkansas on Friday struck down a lower court's block of the state abortion laws, citing Chief Justice John Roberts opinion in the Supreme Court's June case in which the court rejected Louisiana's restrictive abortion laws.
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[08-Aug-20 04:53 PM] >That Guy#3386
Wouldn't living Nazis be 100+ years by now? Assuming they were in their 20's at the start of WWII.


[08-Aug-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do we not count neo nazis as nazis? :ponkthonk:


[08-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Neo nazis are joke


[08-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
And yeah, all adult participants are all super old by now. Ancient.


[08-Aug-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, they are kind of a joke insofar as their only frightening praxis is occasionally going on the usual shooting spree


[08-Aug-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But whenever lower class people show their resentment together, they'll be there, gun in hand


[08-Aug-20 05:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's the only point to their existence -- fascists only serve as a jackboot to crush organized working class resentment


[08-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So you say you hate/afaraid of lower class people? :smugcaddy:


[08-Aug-20 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[08-Aug-20 05:26 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym


[08-Aug-20 05:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The class base of neo-nazis is the petit-bourgeoisie and the so-called "middle class", not the working class


[08-Aug-20 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also of note that neo-nazis idolize the peasantry and agriculture while deriding modern industrial society, including the proletariat


[08-Aug-20 05:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx makes this clear in his manifesto: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm#e1

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Communist Manifesto (Chapter 3)
On the different approaches to Socialism and Communism


[08-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So you really hate peasants, I see :smugcaddy:


[08-Aug-20 05:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I don't hate peasants -- in fact, they can be progressive as a class when it comes to, say, land reform movements, like here in Latin America. I deride those who misrepresent them.
Rather, i'm skeptical of their capacity to spearhead a revolution


[08-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Useful tools. As expected.


[08-Aug-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The peasantry is a class in overall decline -- they're being replaced by wage laborers and machines with every passing day, being thus forced to join the industrial proletariat


[08-Aug-20 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And an increase in the proletarian population is necessary for labor struggle, and thereafter communism


[08-Aug-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
reject modernity embrace farm


[08-Aug-20 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
OOOOOOOO WHEAT FIELD MARBLE STATUES


[08-Aug-20 06:10 PM] wren#0114
what


[08-Aug-20 06:10 PM] wren#0114
I'm into dairy farming not crops


[08-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:nut: 🥛


[08-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Milk the horse.


[08-Aug-20 06:11 PM] wren#0114
eventually want to be able to feed my family primarily from my property


[08-Aug-20 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[08-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Who needs rice when you have animal husbandry.
Are you some kind of herbivore? :squintyjack:


[08-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1291901494053220352?s=19

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The Hill (@thehill)
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1291901494053220352?s=19
NEW: Trump says executive order will include:
- Deferring the payroll tax
- Enhanced unemployment benefits
- Deferred sudent loan payments and forgiven interest indefinitely
- A federal moratorium on evictions
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[08-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
A senseable trump EO?


[08-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Did I wake up in a alternet uiverse this morning again? I hate when that happens.


[08-Aug-20 06:49 PM] wren#0114
whoa


[08-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
did he even read what he decided to sign this time?


[08-Aug-20 06:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ok, now what's the catch?


[08-Aug-20 07:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the catch is that he likely doesn;t have the power to do any of this without congressional approval


[08-Aug-20 07:04 PM] Opponent#3498
he gets to cancel the election :wheeze:


[08-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'd love to see him try to do that


[08-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
everyone on both sides would just laugh


[08-Aug-20 07:20 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Laugh and pull out the shanks, they try to pull a Caesar.


[08-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>implying Trump is good as Caesar


[08-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
ew Caesar would dab on trump hard


[08-Aug-20 08:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just a reminder that Congress *technically* has the sole power of the purse but Trump has already banked a "victory" in that regard with the Ukraine aid thing


[08-Aug-20 08:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's possible that whoever helped pen this EO knew that and so included all these popular-sounding things so that if anyone were to challenge his authority to do so, he could turn it into a challenge against doing these things at all. It's a win-win for trump in owning the libs


[08-Aug-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-undermines-intelligence-warning-russia-targetting-biden-election-2020-8

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Trump downplays the warning from the US intel community that Russia...
Evidence suggests that Russia wants Trump to win in November, while Iran and China want him to lose, the Director of National Intelligence said.
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[08-Aug-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
"I don't care"


[08-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Scriptør#3787
Unsurprising.


[08-Aug-20 08:54 PM] byte[]#2610
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[08-Aug-20 08:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why on earth would Russia want Trump out of the white house? He has been nothing but good for them


[08-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/5n90WohCSIg

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Accursed Farms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n90WohCSIg
Ross's Game Dungeon: Follow-up Episode #3
Ross looks back on previous episodes and finds a lot more cyborgs than he was expecting.

https://accursedfarms.com/
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[08-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Mmmmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gr6DpjEmWo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gr6DpjEmWo
Did We Give Away Half of Oklahoma? | LegalEagle’s Law Review
The Supreme Court says that roughly half of Oklahoma is part of a Creek reservation.  Did we just lose half a state?  Switch to Ting Mobile to call your friends in Oklahoma and get a $25 service credit! http://legaleagle.ting.com

Watch the Case of the House the Police Blew Up...
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[08-Aug-20 09:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tldr on this is things are going to explode and shit be fucked. Ross called it


[08-Aug-20 09:04 PM] jlun2#8758
> explode 
the grand canyon?


[08-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No not the grand canyon the whole worlds ecomeny. Ross talks about it in the human revolution part


[08-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also lgr is in the epsode too


[08-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
```the grand canyon?```


[08-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
**EVERYTHING.**


[08-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
:glowing_eyes:


[08-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also trigger warning to people who think global warming is an sjw besos consepecey: Ross talks about how global warming will fuck things up


[08-Aug-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[08-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
"Delicious" - senile old alien wearing human skin.


[08-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden's life has been one gaffe after another after intentional lies


[08-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And yet he was senator from Delaware for decades, vice president for eight years, and a presidential candidate (after trying three times)


[08-Aug-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/07/kanye-west-off-illinois-ballot-presidential-campaign-signatures-invalid/

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Kanye West Booted Off Illinois Ballot Due to 1,900 Invalid Signatures
Kanye West's Presidential run just got a death blow, at least in Illinois, where election officials say more than half his submitted signatures are invalid ... and that means he's off the ballot.
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[08-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Never let you sucking at things prevent you from going forward with it.


[08-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1292130789052887041

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Johnny Verhovek (@JTHVerhovek)
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Here is the video... https://t.co/aFv10lufrb https://t.co/1jHIsF9vPi
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[08-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This needs Thug Life music after it


[08-Aug-20 10:03 PM] jlun2#8758
> Biden's life has been one gaffe after another after intentional lies
> And yet he was senator from Delaware for decades, vice president for eight years, and a presidential candidate (after trying three times)
old gens have very low standards then


[08-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He benefitted a lot from the "old boy's club"


[08-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
He was white and knew how to toe the line.


[08-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
He could've literally shat himself at every rally, nobody would've cared.


[08-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Nebbie#8545
Racists are pernicious.


[08-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
@Gordon Freeman wtf is that video you linked anyway? An hour of some guy ranting? I'm sure you can do better than this :l


[08-Aug-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gaming vdeo actually, with some political mention of some sort


[08-Aug-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably just casual conversation :shrugpony:


[08-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/mck_beth/status/1292121386060849152

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Lebanese were already angry when protests over the economic crisis broke out last October. Now they are carrying nooses for the political class. 

Everyone here: enough is enough. Tear gas all over downtown and live ammo fired into air near parliament to disperse crowds #beir...
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[08-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Opponent#3498
fun times all around.


[08-Aug-20 10:52 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking i blame the media for making "old boys club" sound pedo as hell


[08-Aug-20 10:52 PM] byte[]#2610
that's not wrong


[08-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
DYK Biden's original nickname was "Sloppy Joe"

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[08-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/08/trump-wants-to-cut-mail-in-voting-the-republican-machine-is-helping-him-392428

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Trump exploring executive actions to curb voting by mail
Trump’s campaign and the Republican Party have taken to the courts dozens to challenge voting rules. Trump's aides are pondering possible executive actions.
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[08-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent its around the 44 min mark where we start talkeing politics. Its not easyest to get into or best sourse i admit but he has great points


[08-Aug-20 11:32 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[08-Aug-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i fear by next year regardless of mail in voting, my area won;t be getting mail at all outside of ups and fedex


[08-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
so just fedex then. USPS is getting an 'overhaul' dontchaknowit xD


[08-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ups not usps


[08-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
ah.


[08-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ups is a package delivery corporation


[08-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
right.


[08-Aug-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately, if they;re the only ones available, this also means a double in shipping prices and personal letters are probably right out because those arent profitable


[08-Aug-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this also means the possibility that one of them will rise and eat the other thus forming an abusive monopoly because "free market"


[08-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
USPS has a monopoly on letters


[08-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Itsthinking#8251
With a few exceptions


[08-Aug-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and right now the gop is working on killing the usps


[08-Aug-20 11:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's been dying for years due to overegulation.


[08-Aug-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the gop overregulated it so they could privatize it


[08-Aug-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Airlines were deregulated too


[08-Aug-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The primary areas it hurt were rural ones, because now airlines no longer had to fly unprofitable routes


[08-Aug-20 11:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, the regulation was malignant.


[08-Aug-20 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I am willing to believe the people who say that the USPS would be one of the few federal agencies that *could* turn a profit if it were allowed to, because historically it has, but I don't think that's all that important because I don't believe federal agencies should be profitable period


[08-Aug-20 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there is ofc a difference between not being profitable and hemmoraging money, but that's hardly the same


[08-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A government shouldn't stop doing something that its people need just because it isn't profitable


[08-Aug-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i live in a rural area, so the death of the postal service would absolutely kill us as far as resource obtainment goes


[08-Aug-20 11:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, it will just go back to the pre rural route days, where it gets delivered to a post office 50+ miles away and then you hire a private company to pick it up and deliver to you


[08-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know with small airlines operating to rural airports if they would survive without being subsidized


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you consider societal effects in general


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think a surprising amount of people would rather drive 3 hours to an international airport vs. fly to that airport in a seven person Cessna from their hometown


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* externalities


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
which is very fair in gov't stuff


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
since externalities can be taxed and become revenue easily.


[08-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many things that Republicans hate hav huge ROIs.


[08-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas the things they love to do hav terrible ROI and often no profit.


[08-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans don't want gov't to make money.


[08-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want it to *die*.


[08-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
Saying it's not profitable is just an excuse to cut off another limb.


[08-Aug-20 11:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
something about reverse cargo cults etc


[08-Aug-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
meh not really, they don't want it to _die_ all the time, they just want to be able to grift as much taxpayer money as they can for their rich donor constituents


[08-Aug-20 11:47 PM] jlun2#8758
how  are keep in power


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] >That Guy#3386
Politics


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] jlun2#8758
> Whereas the things they love to do hav terrible ROI and often no profit.
this doesnt even sound sustainable wtf


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the sustainability of the GOP is external (that is, lobbying)


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tax cuts hav a 1% ROI.


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any sane businessman wouldn't do them.


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's below inflation.


[08-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you privatized the VA or Social Security


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Food stamps hav a 17% ROI.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
a lot of the stuff that the GOP pushes hard for will result in kickbacks - for the politicians personally


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd just have states picking up the slack


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Any businessman who rejects a 17% ROI benefitting them is insane.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yet, businessmen in gov't do tax cuts, not food stamps.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] >That Guy#3386
Forgive me for being s retard, but what does ROI stand for?


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Because those tax cuts are going to their buddies.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Those food stamps go to poor people.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
return on investment


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Return On Investment.


[08-Aug-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
return on investment


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
Ah


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
As in, for every dollar you put in in food stamps


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
17% ROI means if you invest $1 you get $1.17 back


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Eww, but you're helping the _poor_


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
a dollar and **17 cents** goes into the community at large


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fine, we'll help the poor but they can only buy these five things with MY money I'm so graciously giving them


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
If you then tax off of that, you can actually recoup your dollar and then some and still help the community.


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but since they don't see that 17 cents go into their pockets *personally,* it's nothing


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
Whereas you *can't* do that with tax cuts.


[08-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Only peanut butter and frozen vegetables. The poor don't get to enjoy things.


[08-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Tax cuts literally just reduce gov't income with no real other effects.


[08-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is why Europe with its very high taxes works better.


[08-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
That 1% won't be missed when you lose it.


[08-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Put a few million in basic infrastructure and you get it bakk.


[08-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
But you also get more on top.


[08-Aug-20 11:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The thing is, reversing most tax cuts that have been made in the last couple decades won't really affect the taxes of...pretty much anyone in here, unless we've got a couple billionaires lurking


[08-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Furries are the billionaires, not bronies

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[08-Aug-20 11:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I've said it before but most furries are Air Jordans rich


[08-Aug-20 11:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not that they have more disposable income necessarily, it's that they devote a greater portion of their disposable income to one particular hobby, perhaps even to the extent of going into debt over it


[08-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's about 1/3 trust fund babies, 1/3 people going into debt, 1/3 eccentric millionaire from their work


[08-Aug-20 11:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, sure, a fursuit's a couple grand, but compare that to what your average gun enthusiast is going to drop


[08-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm talking more like $7k commissions


[08-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Those commissions aren't for anything other than conspicuous consumption


[08-Aug-20 11:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
why do you think I chose the specific metaphor of Air Jordans?


[08-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Because they're about the image rather than quality, yes


[09-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/antifaintl/status/1291791681055072257?s=19

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Antifa International (@antifaintl)
https://twitter.com/antifaintl/status/1291791681055072257?s=19
@teespring just shut down our t-shirt fundraiser.  Why? Because our shirts contain the word "antifa."  A thread:
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[09-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://teespring.com/search?q=This%20machine%20kills%20fascists

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Teespring - The best way to sell custom apparel online!
Teespring makes it easier than ever to sell custom printed apparel. Leverage the power of your network to earn money with absolutely no cost.
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[09-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Close enough.


[09-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Opponent#3498
(it's really because we're trying to get free hype cause nobody buys this shit anymore but shhhh)


[09-Aug-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
too many youtube channels all selling t shirts now
what am i supposed to do w/ them


[09-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Opponent#3498
donate to charity :twismug:


[09-Aug-20 12:16 AM] byte[]#2610
do actual charity work


[09-Aug-20 12:17 AM] jlun2#8758
upvote posts on charity work :bigbrain:


[09-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Youtube channels sell shirts because Youtube is hyper-careful about advertisers


[09-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As Leafy said, the best time to be on Youtube/the most productive videos was in 2016 where people were making videos about how bad Youtube was


[09-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But Leafy has really weird opinions about what Youtube should be, so idk if I trust him


[09-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of his stances is "Stop making big serious videos with production values, this is Youtube, you're not on TV, fuck off with that shit"


[09-Aug-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
youtube monetization is dumb so people to have resorted to merch sales to fund themselves


[09-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's all just a dig on idubbbz/h3h3/Keemstar anyway


[09-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But at some point he goes "Is that the slightest bit of effort put into a video? JIMMY KIMMEL WANNABE! YOU RUINED THE PLATFORM!"


[09-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Opponent#3498
considering things like The Great War series, yeah, I don't really think 'no effort no value only' approach is a good one :D


[09-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khYsFXWTV_s

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Photography is Not a Crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khYsFXWTV_s
GRAPHIC: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint ...
A noise complaint from an annoyed neighbor resulted in cops shooting and killing a man within five seconds of him opening his front door. Read full story. https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-vide...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/khYsFXWTV_s/sddefault.jpg


[09-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Crow#5457
they instantly executed a man kneeling down and complying with orders before they even gave them


[09-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Crow#5457
sorry, I think it's the cop on the right of the door who did the shooting, the left cop just had his gun out


[09-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
the real hero here is the guy who just gotta get it to work tommorow.


[09-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it's the same as the one linked yesterday


[09-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He got shot in the back


[09-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Three times


[09-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is Gretchen Whitmer suddenly getting stock in the VP race


[09-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also why is Biden waiting so long, the convention is less than two weeks away


[09-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
No benefit to rush.


[09-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/republicans-mail-voting-trump.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/republicans-mail-voting-trump.html
Republicans Fear Trump’s Criticism of Mail-In Ballots Will Hurt Them
Officials and strategists warned that if a wide partisan gap over mail voting continues in November, Republicans could be at a disadvantage.
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[09-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
PS5/Xbone4 come still don't have a price either and they come out around the same time as election day =p


[09-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
So basically, the GOP now might need mail-in voting to win.


[09-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Somewhat of an old article, but still hilariously relevant.


[09-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, he said mail-in is good if the state is Republican-led


[09-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only for Florida.


[09-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Serenity#9645
by my understanding and correct me if im wrong, mail in voting has 2x+ the chance of votes not being counted, mail services workers are around 70+ something % republican, thus fraud will be more right leaning. so criticism of mass mail in voting is more republican leaning opinion. meaning they want it more fair with less fraud even if it helps them?


[09-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mail service workers can't tell which party the ballot is.


[09-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, they'd hav to open up the envelope to see


[09-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
that would be...extremely difficult to do without being very obviously detected.


[09-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's conspiracy-theory level to think they'd do that.


[09-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The "fraud" involved here isn't to do with mail workers.


[09-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The allegations are that people will pass themselves off as who they are not.


[09-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like that some guy will take in 5 ballots, 1 of which should be his, and fill out and mail them all.


[09-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans claim this happens and is left-leaning.


[09-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
However, just the same with the supposed fraud that ID would stop, it is not actually common in any way, it's too hard to pull off in a manner that'd affect the election.


[09-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Serenity#9645
so a extremely democrat known area has their mail in ballots taken in they are packaged then "lost"  then found, when the deadline is up, thus they are not counted.


[09-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doing it by area like that is theoretically possible, but most of the mail system is automated.


[09-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would be very difficult to pull off successfully.


[09-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The voting envelope should have the ballot in an envelope, and a form that verifies the vote is legit


[09-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So the people managing the mail wouldn't see the vote itself unless they open both envelopes


[09-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Serenity#9645
a absentee balot can be anything, republican or democrat, i got one in germany. but a neighborhood that it is collected from that is well known as republican or democrat can be "lost". im trying to remember who but a news station did a test on mail in ballots, the mail lost them all then found them and then 25% was missing/void, you have the republican fraud case that changed peoples votes and was charged with tampering, many cases, i get it booth voting isnt secure either, but id rather not be one of the many disqualified of my vote. no matter republican or democrat


[09-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure the lost ballots are due to the mail service being incompetent, not malicious.


[09-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hanlon's razor.


[09-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Serenity#9645
it might be, but thats still scary


[09-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't really have an option, consulate doesn't allow in person voting


[09-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They also changed the law some years ago so that I have reregister every year I want to vote


[09-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[09-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
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[09-Aug-20 02:10 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I just realized that this Discord server hates Dilarus


[09-Aug-20 02:11 AM] jlun2#8758
i just hate their ugly looking twi


[09-Aug-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea who that is


[09-Aug-20 02:12 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Played a role during the 2020 Derpibooru disaster.


[09-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dilarus certainly has some opinions on things


[09-Aug-20 02:12 AM] jlun2#8758
if its fine i can upload example here
google cached a bunch of them


[09-Aug-20 02:14 AM] jlun2#8758
example. it creeps the hell out of me @LeafyWasNotHere

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[09-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've heard Dilarus used to make pretty good art before going for more simplistic monochrome weirdly blue stuff.


[09-Aug-20 02:23 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I think that's supposed to reflect a style of animation like fucking John K.


[09-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guess he traded quality for message.


[09-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Dilarus is a pretty good artist 👍

...But he went hardcore-tumblr "silence is violence" keyboard activist and uhhhh yeah I don't feel like being told that I'm a terrible person because I decided to keep opinions to myself. :shrugpony:


[09-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Marukomuru#8409
And I'm not talking about every artist that jumped on the Nazi Bad trend (~~I still gotta do mine oops~~), but I mean the— you know what, I'm keeping the rest of this train of thought to myself. 😕

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[09-Aug-20 02:33 AM] byte[]#2610
just as many people may be privileged not to need to speak about systemic inequality and racism in the country, perhaps because it doesn't tangibly affect them, you have to keep in mind that there may be people who will not speak about such issues because it is a source of personal trauma for them to, or because doing so could cost them dearly


[09-Aug-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
so I'd modify the statement: silence is _not_ violence, but the coercion of silence is definitely a result of structural violence


[09-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Speaking out is important but going after people for not riding the bandwagon is a bit shitty.


[09-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Serenity#9645
id like to speak out about systematic discrimination, i was homeless since 16 and when i was 18 wasn't able to get food stamps or section 8 housing well making 7.25 a hour when i tried and watching others get that well making 12 a hour x2 cus it was a married couple no questions asked for them


[09-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're missing some punctuation or words.


[09-Aug-20 02:42 AM] byte[]#2610
seems readable to me


[09-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh, the second well is also while.


[09-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Not even for not bandwagoning though. Simply for just not saying anything, or if they happen to say something about it, it's somehow not enough for them and they assume the opposite anyway.


[09-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Serenity#9645
i know there is problems cus i lived trough them and got denied many times well living under a bridge or in my car next to where i worked, well others made way more and got help. i was working and trying to be better well applying, i got denied


[09-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Serenity#9645
ill speak out of these problems all the time, im not afraid to


[09-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Everyone should speak their problems; I have nothing against that :upvote:


[09-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
social media was a mistake


[09-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The instant you start to participate, your non participation in _anything_ is taken as a statement


[09-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right now there's a shitload of drama in some big name furry circles about cub stuff, and any artist _not_ talking about it is getting harassed as being pro-cub because they're not making 12 posts a day calling out random other people as targets for harassement / cancellation


[09-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dilarus made weird intentionally ugly art before the mouthpieces


[09-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/sne_sra/status/1292135210516193281

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Southern New England SRA (@sne_sra)
https://twitter.com/sne_sra/status/1292135210516193281
While #boogaloo bois and bootlickers are LARPing and sit at home fantazing about protecting their communities, we, the #SRA, just crossed the 14,000 lbs mark on food distribution to our food insecure neighbors. When your community suffers take note of who shows up. We protect...
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[09-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/a_s_arthur/status/1292178237750116353
Wait... why exactly would they blackout the one leg

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@sne_sra Maybe black both his legs next time so they're not looking for someone with an identifying mark on one leg.
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[09-Aug-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
big pp


[09-Aug-20 02:52 AM] byte[]#2610
just kidding, he's got a tattoo on his leg


[09-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Here I just thought it was an odd pair of pants but yeah a certain tattoo might be the reason


[09-Aug-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
they should have made him wear pants or stand out of the shot

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[09-Aug-20 02:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon what furry communities are those


[09-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
twitter


[09-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/the_dogsmith for example

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[09-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone messaged her saying cobaltsnow used to draw cub stuff


[09-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And since she didn't make a callout post of her own


[09-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Got harassed into shutting down her twitter, discord, commissions, etc


[09-Aug-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/bbstwpvyzsf51.png
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/serum-institute-caps-proposed-vaccine-price-at-rs-225/dose/amp_articleshow/77424541.cms

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Covid-19: Serum Institute caps proposed vaccine price at Rs 225/dos...
Pune-based Serum Institute, the world’s largest vaccine manufacturer by volume, has set a ceiling price of $3 per dose for the proposed Covid-19 vaccine for India and low-and middle-income countries (LMICs).  ​​The ceiling price is only for vaccines proposed to be distributed ...
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[09-Aug-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
> I just want to point out that the $3 cost is the target "cap" price for the Gates Foundation. In all likelihood, poorer areas will have their cost further subsidized down to free or nearly-free. Everyone complaining that it "should be free" is kinda misreading the point of this statement. They're trying to set the **maximum** price to $3 to prevent shady clinics and middle-men from excessively marking-up vaccine prices when the vaccines become available. $3 is not the actual price that people will pay in impoverished areas. It's the maximum amount.


[09-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuel for the conspiracy "theorists", I'm afraid


[09-Aug-20 03:03 AM] jlun2#8758
> callout posts
those are worthless & is only good for virtue signalling


[09-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't think you realize the raw power that having your social outlet be full of pure hate directed at you has


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a distributed denial of service attack for humans


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone can boast about being immune to chodes on the internet


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until it happens to them


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And any mention of them is just hate


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont use social media sorry
i do get bullied a lot irl tho


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any place you go to relax and have fun


[09-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is just messages full of hate and lies


[09-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You turn on the TV to watch your favourite show, and the entire thing is just about how much you suck, you personally, how you've actively ruined people's lives on purpose


[09-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And you change the channel, and it's your favourite actor, the person you idolized, speaking directly at you, telling you you were a mistake in their life, that they wish you just didn't exist


[09-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You go to talk to your friends, but they don't respond, and the ones that do tell you you're a piece of shit


[09-Aug-20 03:08 AM] jlun2#8758
i can relate to that in a way during my high school years


[09-Aug-20 03:09 AM] jlun2#8758
i suppose just like in school if you block or report it does nothing to stop them right
if so rip  :ts_cry:


[09-Aug-20 03:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the only way to escape is to change your pseudonym


[09-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're an artist, that means destroying your income stream and restarting


[09-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And given style, only a matter of time before people catch on


[09-Aug-20 03:13 AM] jlun2#8758
rip :ts_cry:


[09-Aug-20 03:17 AM] jlun2#8758
this is rather foreign for me, sorry


[09-Aug-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
dirty foreigners :trixdisgust:


[09-Aug-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-twitter-possilbe-combination-talks-wsj-report-2020-8

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TikTok and Twitter are starting to talk about a possible combinatio...
The two tech companies had "preliminary" talks that may or may not lead to a deal, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday night citing sources.
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[09-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
TikTok knows that MS will either 1) run them into the ground (Mixer), or 2) integration into Windows 10™, and they don't want either scenario


[09-Aug-20 04:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think Twitter just wants to have Vine back but they killed it in response to instagram, and I don't know if this plan will get them what they want


[09-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People still miss Vine and no one likes Instagram stories, just bring it back


[09-Aug-20 04:15 AM] illumnious#7938
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[09-Aug-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are you sure his end goal isnt to wipe the population of florida to 0?


[09-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean


[09-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’d be best for the world


[09-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too dangerous to be kept alive.


[09-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The green slime unfortunately isn't working.


[09-Aug-20 04:24 AM] illumnious#7938
> are you sure his end goal isnt to wipe the population of florida to 0?
@prism stryder(intexda) yes


[09-Aug-20 04:25 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-twitter-possilbe-combination-talks-wsj-report-2020-8
@prism stryder(intexda) oh boi

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[09-Aug-20 04:26 AM] larrykitty#9271

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[09-Aug-20 04:26 AM] larrykitty#9271
I'll put here becasue I think it deserves a political debate


[09-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"How to Get /v/ To Advertise Your Game for Free: A Guide"


[09-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-fighting-spread-covid-19-providing-assistance-renters-homeowners/

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[09-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Discord preview tho


[09-Aug-20 04:37 AM] byte[]#2610
> Unlike the Congress, I cannot sit idly and refuse to assist vulnerable Americans in need.

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[09-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
By providing ass. :nut:

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[09-Aug-20 04:58 AM] jlun2#8758
wheres that hyperinflation after months of pumping money


[09-Aug-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Section 1: P


[09-Aug-20 05:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
I think I outta buy some gold...


[09-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Synfag#9241
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[09-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER THINGS


[09-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You honestly expect me to believe Oklahoma has electronics made after 1970? Bold


[09-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're all playing Spacewar!


[09-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the only thing left to do now that natives hav reclaimed the area where they stored emergency magazines.


[09-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Marches[45]#0674
> ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER THINGS
@Nebbie  Yeah, the beach thing is pretty fucked up.


[09-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Florida really is a mistake.


[09-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like everything from the Trail of Tears onwards.


[09-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
We killed a bunch of natives just so we could hav a state whose entire purpose is to destroy the environment in order to...grow oranges and retire in.


[09-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Florida is the place where a special brain disease known as being Floridian is housed


[09-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also seriously giv its panhandle to Alabama.


[09-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
So either oranges and retirement or incest and oranges


[09-Aug-20 06:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[09-Aug-20 06:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[09-Aug-20 06:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why won't he just shut the fuck up already?
Every time he opens his mouth I cringe. Just shut up.


[09-Aug-20 06:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
He just outright said all black people think alike.


[09-Aug-20 06:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
What the absolute fuck?
He didn't misspeak or otherwise misrepresent his opinion. He just outright said it.
"Unlike the African American community"
Why was that necessary to say?


[09-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the same stuff Trump says


[09-Aug-20 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thing is, I don't even know who else was in the running as Obama's VP picks


[09-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When he keeps harping on about how much the black community loves him


[09-Aug-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, if Biden hadn't been veep under obama would he even be remotely relevant?


[09-Aug-20 06:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Just because Trump does something doesn't make it acceptable.


[09-Aug-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Neither option is *great* but when you're down to two options and one is actively enabling fascism and has driven the country into completely avoidable democide, and the other one spouts obviously racist things while trying to appease minorities by picking an african-american running mate...


[09-Aug-20 06:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Why did this idiot have to be the nominee?


[09-Aug-20 06:33 AM] byte[]#2610
because the voters decided they didn't like Sanders

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[09-Aug-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the DNC leadership really, really did not like the idea of progressives


[09-Aug-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and convinced the voters of this as well


[09-Aug-20 06:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck the DNC


[09-Aug-20 06:34 AM] byte[]#2610
tempering the fact that he didn't win, I think Sanders is more powerful for championing progressive causes quietly in the background as a senator


[09-Aug-20 06:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
The DNC doesn't even trust its own constituents.
Fucking superdelegates. I didn't even like Sanders that much, buy wtf is with the DNC's anti-democratic system?


[09-Aug-20 06:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
neoliberalism


[09-Aug-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
they changed the situation after 2016: superdelegates don't come into play unless nobody gets a majority


[09-Aug-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
I have a feeling they'll probably change it again soon to a plurality vote


[09-Aug-20 06:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
They shouldn't exist in the first place. Just do run-off elections.


[09-Aug-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
since everything else is obviously undemocratic


[09-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing to note is that when the question of superdelegates came up, *nobody* liked the non-Bernie answers of "follow the process".


[09-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was at the end of one of the early debates, as well.


[09-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that question comes up again after a Biden presidency with him dead, I think it will hit even harder.


[09-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Having a part of your electoral process that makes people rally around a candidate who is against the process is not sustainable in the long term.


[09-Aug-20 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and who even knows what'd happen if the NPVIC reaches critical mass


[09-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
That will just blow up Republican chances of the presidency.


[09-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Long-term it could lead to a new constitutional amendment to abolish the EC.


[09-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause there'd be no point anymore.


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do note, SCOTUS' recent decision to affirm states can force change EC votes makes the NPVIC unsinkable.


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
As soon as it hits a majority, that's game.


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a tiny part of me hopes it doesn't happen this election cycle, though, because this would absolutely be something Trump would try to use to declare the election illegitimate


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wouldn't matter.


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The public is against the EC at this point.


[09-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
They will not care what Trump says about why to hav it.


[09-Aug-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That wasn't my concern so much as it would be that the only way Trump is going to leave the WH is with someone holding each of his elbows


[09-Aug-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the case regardless.


[09-Aug-20 06:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
He won't accept the legitimacy of any defeat.


[09-Aug-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
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[09-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to remember to take the 4th of November off


[09-Aug-20 06:47 AM] Synfag#9241
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[09-Aug-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that reminds me, do any of the states that do mail-in ballots on a regular basis process any of the ballots prior to election day, or (like my state re: absentee ballots) do they remain sealed until the polls close


[09-Aug-20 06:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I believe they all remain sealed until polls close. Has to, otherwise ballot counting gets out.


[09-Aug-20 06:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So the only valid argument that it could take (gasp) days or (the horror) weeks to determine the outcome of the election is...a lack of training?


[09-Aug-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
you need experience to count ballots :isee:


[09-Aug-20 06:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, isn't the reason the election is several months before the inauguration specifically because the system was designed to handle the electors arriving via horses to cast their votes after the ballots cast had been collected by pre-industrial mail services?


[09-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[09-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being able to know results within a week would seem crazy to the founders.


[09-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that a few days of delay in California cause of mail-ins is a problem is...crazy.


[09-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh also, looked at Florida's ballot measures to see if anything juicy is coming up


[09-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
there is, believe it or not, a ballot measure to say that ballot measures need to win twice (two general elections in a row) to win.


[09-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because Republicans want to make sure that voters stop being able to actually change shit.


[09-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
And are asking the voters to agree to the voters not being able to change shit.


[09-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gee, I wonder how many are going to vote for that one.


[09-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
(it needs 60% to pass, since it's a constitutional change)


[09-Aug-20 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
still assmad about the ballot measure that restored rights to felons


[09-Aug-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
they're trying to make it so that they don't lose every single election ever


[09-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's zero reason to even need to have the election decided until at the latest, mid January


[09-Aug-20 07:23 AM] byte[]#2610
congress needs results by late december


[09-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Worst case scenario is an acting president


[09-Aug-20 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
the ballots for congress need to be counted by late december


[09-Aug-20 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
you can have an acting president, yes, but you cannot have 435 "acting" congressmen


[09-Aug-20 07:26 AM] byte[]#2610
and the candidates need some time to prepare for the move after it's established they've won


[09-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, I really hope that the GOP listens to the people thinking long term who are screaming about EC reform being necessary to save it


[09-Aug-20 07:31 AM] byte[]#2610
I hope they do nothing and NPVIC passes


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
EC is effectively dead, even SCOTUS thinks so


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then small states with low populations will have no voice at all.


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
good


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
they don't get to decide policy for the places where everyone else lives


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's no better than the present system where they have too much representation


[09-Aug-20 07:32 AM] byte[]#2610
literal minority rule


[09-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A Wyoming vote should have the same power as a California or Texas one


[09-Aug-20 07:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I will say that given the track record of these places voting against their own interests, at least in the current climate it might be better if they weren't over-represented anymore


[09-Aug-20 07:34 AM] byte[]#2610
...that's what NPV guarantees


[09-Aug-20 07:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and yes


[09-Aug-20 07:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh I support NPV but worry about small states becoming totally irrelevant


[09-Aug-20 07:35 AM] byte[]#2610
that's what local policy is for


[09-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then again I'd go for even more radical replacements of the whole electoral college system/executive branch


[09-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ex electoral votes by region, an executive council even


[09-Aug-20 07:36 AM] byte[]#2610
some level of federal apportionment is needed because as you know smaller states need to be subsidized by the larger states where everyone else lives in order for those small states to not collapse under the weight of their own debt


[09-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Divide the country into six or so regions, a region only elects their council member and not any other region's


[09-Aug-20 07:37 AM] byte[]#2610
but other than that, what you're talking about is for the role of local representation in the federalist system


[09-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I briefly wanted a parliamentary system but then realized it would never work in the US.


[09-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Parliamentary systems are garbage.


[09-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly I think you hav it entirely wrong, Its.


[09-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate should operate like Canada's.


[09-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Appointed by the House and required to be non-partisan by and large.


[09-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Huh, didn't know that


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Acting not to write/pass bills just like the House, but be a sort of amender to fix shit.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
All bills should originate in the House.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My solution was to just give states over a certain population more senators


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Senate should be a veto before the president.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah, no.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's just duplicating the House.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Duplication doesn't work.


[09-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
You need different roles.


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem with the US Senate, do note


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
is not that it's bad to hav a more senior chamber to chekk shit


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
but that the Founders designed it to be the dominant force.


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in practice it's not more senior


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
it's just "we hav more money"


[09-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada's Senate is far saner.


[09-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unfortunately the rest of their system is trash.


[09-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As you said, parliamentary and therefore garbage.


[09-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
As for the executive, it shouldn't hav agencies.


[09-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at least, not ones that hav actual rules.


[09-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The judicial branch should be the sole decider on when people are breaking rules.


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
There should be *judges* saying that YouTube broke COPPA.


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should not be the ones who write the rules.


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Only Congress should write rules.


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Judiciary will give great deference to agency decisions


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary should be the ones making the decisions.


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why have the agencies then?


[09-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Executive should literally just be investigative in nature.


[09-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The agencies would allow specialized judges to deal with areas they hav expertise in.


[09-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
And keep those areas somewhat out of the purview of regular legislation actions.


[09-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The executive would just provide manpower.


[09-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>cede control to departments you don't control


[09-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice dream


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's already basically happened as far as Congress.


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem is the Executive is going wild.


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judiciary is the best branch we've got, and it needs to take over a lot of what the Executive does.


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Executive has a disturbing amount of power. Even the vice presidency has grown from basically nothing to basically being a co president, which it was never meant to actually be


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Executive is essentially thru stuff like COPPA trying to create a shadow Judiciary.


[09-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
With rules it writes and decides on.


[09-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to the Executive itself.


[09-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Executive council is stupid, @Itsthinking.


[09-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It just promotes the same factionalism and corruption as we hav now.


[09-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
In practice those regions would just each agree to embezzle their own areas.


[09-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And there'd be no traction on nationwide issues.


[09-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think it comes from the defeatist "Fuck it, we're so sectionalized and corrupt, just make it official" attitude


[09-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
What the Executive needs I think is more than one leader voted on.


[09-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
VP should be a separate vote.


[09-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
So should every cabinet position.


[09-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah we tried that, doesn't work


[09-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nothing "works" in the US.


[09-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine Clinton as Trump's VP.


[09-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'd be undermined a lot but he'd be somewhat restrained.


[09-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
More stuff would leak out.


[09-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big problem is once the president is in, they can appoint whoever they want.


[09-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Let’s say, hypothetically, Trump wasn’t a dictator


[09-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
In theory, Congress votes, but in practice, ACTING HEAD NUMBER THREE


[09-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe the House should appoint, and the Senate confirm, cabinet members.


[09-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president could *request* people, but there'd be no way for the president to force a particular choice.


[09-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Same for judges.


[09-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just cut the president out of the loop.


[09-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
President gets to direct his men to carry out what Congress wants, talk to foreign countries.


[09-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Can't get his favorite judge or whatever.


[09-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, in this way, the *House itself* kind of acts like an Executive Council, @Itsthinking.


[09-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just distribute the power so much that nobody can take it over easily.


[09-Aug-20 09:35 AM] Opponent#3498
```I just realized that this Discord server hates Dilarus```
took you that long huh @LeafyWasNotHere


[09-Aug-20 09:36 AM] Opponent#3498
people living good cushy lives, need some _excitement_ in there somewhere. Need to feel _right_, feel _righteous_, feel _good_. They need enemies to conquer and wrongs to right.


[09-Aug-20 09:37 AM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately, the real wrongs are a tiny bit too big for puny little human beings like that, and the real enemies too strong. So, they _invent_ issues.


[09-Aug-20 09:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it is very easy, after all. You can pick a relevant political side playbook, and using it invent and designate just the right size of the enemy for your current wants.


[09-Aug-20 09:40 AM] Opponent#3498
this scumfuck chose Derpi as that enemy, assembled a cohort of like-minded individuals and gave it an honest go. Stumbled upon an almost easy win, too, with BLM being active his original call for _vengeance_ could very well get traction, poison the brand and hurt everyone associated with it.


[09-Aug-20 09:41 AM] wren#0114
no need to be rood


[09-Aug-20 09:41 AM] Opponent#3498
something went wrong for him though. The project endured; the follow-up attack on FiM just fizzed into nothing quickly.


[09-Aug-20 09:42 AM] Opponent#3498
guess this enemy was too big for his puny self to conquer as well.


[09-Aug-20 09:46 AM] Opponent#3498
now he's reduced to... Jerusalem Post :lul:  Although just because the adversary is incompetent, unlucky or weak, they don't stop being such. This wonderful individual will be remembered for as long as the fandom exists.


[09-Aug-20 10:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, he didn't reach out to that journalist, it was the other way around


[09-Aug-20 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
someone validated his existence and empowered his crusade :wheeze: 

UPD: unless you mean JP, in which case, well, that's one business strategy I guess, feeding on months-old internet drama. Beats empty pages, if only just.


[09-Aug-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
also he did nothing wrong


[09-Aug-20 10:17 AM] Opponent#3498
just like Hitler.


[09-Aug-20 10:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Let's recap what happened during the 2020 Derpibooru disaster because I think I'm starting to have a false memory.

1. Derpibooru fully supports BLM.
2. The Atlantic accuses MLP of being a hub of nazism.
3. DB removes its rule of no nazism. Everyone gets pissed off.
4. Some artists pull their artwork off of the site.
5. DB reinstates the rule. Everything went back to normal.

Is there something that I missed or incorrect?


[09-Aug-20 10:47 AM] Opponent#3498
not quite. The part I know for sure is, Dilarius and the crew have suddenly taken issue to existence of a certain obscure OC, Aryanne, a pone with a heart + svastika CM. That has existed for... I dunno, 7 years? During which time it accumulated double digits number of artwork total. Now that became a major issue, a clear sign that Derpi allows for and promotes naziism or whatever, and a call to cease, desist, repent, ban all art of her and cancel all associated artists, and so on.


[09-Aug-20 10:50 AM] Opponent#3498
and should the administration fail to comply, to deplatform and destroy Derpi.


[09-Aug-20 10:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I think this situation is the My Little Pony version of the YouTubeWakeUp controversy.


[09-Aug-20 10:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think it's directly related to BLM in any way but timing. There was BLM art. ACAB art. Hammer n sickle art. Aryanne thing. And so on. Individual people might have something to say about some of these, but the community at large was fine with that. Filters really are magic.


[09-Aug-20 10:53 AM] Opponent#3498
I'm pretty sure the art's still there too, 'was' isn't the correct way to put it. Outside of people who DNPed as an act of protest.


[09-Aug-20 10:54 AM] Opponent#3498
following that and Atlantic Post of how bronies are all nazis, Derpi team flip-flopped a couple times, birthing not one but _two_ separate calls for exodus, one against the censorship and another against not enough of it.


[09-Aug-20 10:56 AM] Opponent#3498
still, eventually the rules and interpretation of them were back to how things were originally and this is where we are now. Things are fine. Ish. And a pile of people with DNPs still waiting to be processed because it's all manual, some commissioners don't agree and also collabs shouldn't count :D


[09-Aug-20 10:59 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The reason I say this disaster is somehow connected to the YouTubeWakeUp controversy is this:

1. Something political arises
2. The platform takes action.
3. An unknown person convinces the public that Derpibooru is secretly allowing hate speech. When really, it isn't.
4. The public is swayed by his opinion. I myself included.
5. Ads boycott. In this case, it also includes artists.
6. Some people take notice of the errors of the video/motive. In this case, it's DB's discord server that seems to know more than the public can.
7. The platform takes action again. And the disaster subsides and everything stays the same.


[09-Aug-20 11:04 AM] Opponent#3498
kind of, yeah, with a lot of drama in-between.


[09-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Opponent#3498
...and now an artist with DNP/removal wants to use Derpi as an ad platform for their art pack :wheeze:


[09-Aug-20 11:12 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Perhaps this vid explains more than I can: https://youtu.be/nBQFls_elpY

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There was always something fishy about the YouTubeWakeUp controversy.

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[09-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well. Business as usual.


[09-Aug-20 01:15 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/08/poorer-students-will-suffer-in-unfair-a-level-grading-model-uk-parents-warn

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[09-Aug-20 01:21 PM] Crow#5457
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[09-Aug-20 01:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/republicans-paid-huge-strange-sums-to-facebook-and-a-mystery-company-for-list-acquisition/

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Republicans paid huge, strange sums to Facebook and a mystery compa...
After reporting essentially no payments to Facebook for about three years, the Republican National Committee paid the social media company $5.5 million for “list acquisition” between September and November 2019, according to Federal Election Commission filings. This article fi...
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[09-Aug-20 02:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
There are unironic white supremicists posting on derpibooru right now I see in the forums all the time, I'm sure if you cover your eyes and ears they were never there though.


[09-Aug-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are unironic white supremecists posting in nearly every forum site i go to.  It's like a horror movie bleeding wall


[09-Aug-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are people unironically arguing that racial violence is justified because colleges have race based scholarships


[09-Aug-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
so, ban everyone everywhere. Line em up and shoot em up. Just _please_, take your _domestic issues_ outside of our beloved _international_ platform.


[09-Aug-20 03:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
Noone wants to bring up that if we had a site that banned Americans there'd be no problems :')


[09-Aug-20 03:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
The American question is the true conundrum to save the internet.


[09-Aug-20 03:16 PM] Opponent#3498
unironically true. But it would be lacking in content, because US people have disproportionately huge amounts of money to spend on commissions despite complaining how poor they are.


[09-Aug-20 03:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
To be fair the commissioned content would be higher quality due to the bigger brains of non Americans for ideas


[09-Aug-20 03:17 PM] Opponent#3498
well that doesnt matter. You can only appreciate good things if there's bad things to compare it to.


[09-Aug-20 03:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Just like how we in the real first world can laugh at America and literally all they can do is cope


[09-Aug-20 03:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
And it keeps us sane while everything is shit because at least we're not them


[09-Aug-20 03:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i wasnt them


[09-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>unironically true. But it would be lacking in content, because US people have disproportionately huge amounts of money to spend on commissions despite complaining how poor they are.

lmao, can confirm


[09-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I obviously feel sorry for my American friends


[09-Aug-20 03:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the weirdly disproportionate thing is that jobs pay good spending money, but poor living money. the paychecks are great short term but if you try to save thme up and pay off your expenses with them you;re going to burn yourself out.


[09-Aug-20 03:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean it's a society geared around consumerism


[09-Aug-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that it is


[09-Aug-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Go buy yourself something nice while we repossess your house" seems to be the mantra of america


[09-Aug-20 03:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
And then people tell you that you shouldn't buy tiny things that make life worth living and you should just suffer and probably kill yourself so you might afford to buy an apartment eventually (you usually won't)


[09-Aug-20 03:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
Stop buying nice things you should live on ramen, rice and beans til you're 30


[09-Aug-20 03:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or fast food


[09-Aug-20 03:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just build a house out of lego, it's that simple


[09-Aug-20 03:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-gov-noem-trumps-desire-carved-into-mt-rushmore-2020-8

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[09-Aug-20 03:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and if you die, imitate the lego Yoda death sound


[09-Aug-20 04:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
back when i worked at walmart my paycheck got me a lot of books and groceries but if i wasnt living with my parents, that paycheck would have had me homeless


[09-Aug-20 04:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
Ah yes, landlording, known essential work that produces things to help society


[09-Aug-20 04:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
I sure love my covid lockdowns not freezing rent so people without citizenship who can't get welfare but are stuck here are forced to work while infected


[09-Aug-20 04:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
Not to mention just the economic pressures of people in general with higher bills


[09-Aug-20 04:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
Most of which naturally, is rent, it's not like labdlords are maintaining anything during lockdown anyway lol


[09-Aug-20 04:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, I sleep, but it's so fucking stupid my state premier and the prime minister selectively ignore the obvious


[09-Aug-20 04:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-sanctions-un/north-korea-has-probably-developed-nuclear-devices-to-fit-ballistic-missiles-u-n-report-says-idUSKCN24Z2PO

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North Korea is pressing on with its nuclear weapons program and several countries believe it has "probably developed miniaturized nuclear devices to fit into the warheads of its ballistic missiles," according to a confidential U.N. report.
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[09-Aug-20 04:23 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Will they probably get invaded like Saddam? :twismug:


[09-Aug-20 04:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[09-Aug-20 04:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Twenty fucking grand.


[09-Aug-20 04:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Will they probably get invaded like Saddam? :twismug:
@Stoopedhooy  depends on how CHOINER reacts


[09-Aug-20 04:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think NK is becoming increasingly irrelevant to Chinese interests


[09-Aug-20 04:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think they just don't want a U.S.-allied United Korea on their border.


[09-Aug-20 04:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not sure an united Korea would by this point remain an US ally


[09-Aug-20 04:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Aug-20 04:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not enough to invade NKorea and depose the honorary american-in-charge. The hard part is figuring out the next step. That's what nobody wants to deal with.


[09-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Opponent#3498
for China it's a headache for no gain, for the Allies it's a task even harder than the Afghanistan business.


[09-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Opponent#3498
well, maybe not harder. Just different and about as bad.


[09-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
united Korea _could_ have a chance probably? But nobody knows what would _that_ look like either.


[09-Aug-20 04:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Probably 50% smoldering nuclear wreck


[09-Aug-20 05:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if they did unite, it would probably not be a peaceful unition


[09-Aug-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of them is getting hostily taken over or both of them are killing eachother


[09-Aug-20 05:58 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/AFP_Beirut/status/1292163388781600768

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Lebanon UPDATE:
Protesters have now:
- Taken over foreign ministry
- Stormed economy ministry
- Stormed Association of banks of Lebanon
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And looks like more to come...
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[09-Aug-20 05:58 PM] ononim#8141
tho I heard that they got ousted from gov buildings today, but I am not sure how trustworthy it is


[09-Aug-20 06:58 PM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509988-democrat-kai-kahele-wins-hawaii-primary-to-replace-tulsi-gabbard

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Democrat Kai Kahele wins Hawaii primary to replace Tulsi Gabbard
State Sen. Kai Kahele (D), an active National Guard member, won the primary in Hawaii’s 2nd District on Saturday in the race to replace retiring Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii).
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[09-Aug-20 07:40 PM] wren#0114
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1292210395550298112

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BREAKING: Trump signs executive orders to extend unemployment benefits, provide a payroll tax holiday, defer student loan payments and extend the federal moratorium on evictions, after talks in Congress collapsed; Democrats vow to sue the President - CNBC
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[09-Aug-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/pelosi-criticizes-trump-coronavirus-relief-executive-orders-unconstitutional-2020-8

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[09-Aug-20 07:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a shitty move; pass an EO about the topic to appear that he's doing something, while what he's doing is actually ineffective, and then play any criticism or moves against it as "the democrats want to take your relief money away!"


[09-Aug-20 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, that's the trick.


[09-Aug-20 07:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sad thing is it'll work


[09-Aug-20 07:46 PM] wren#0114
ineffective?


[09-Aug-20 07:46 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no money to make it into reality. No federal money anyway.


[09-Aug-20 07:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A lot of it is "do X", it's "tell this department to look into what we could do"


[09-Aug-20 07:48 PM] wren#0114
I really don't know much around the topic. Someone was saying on twitter that he was redirecting some of the already approved relief budget, not inventing new relief


[09-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like a "End world hunger" EO; sounds like it just ended world hunger by presidential decree, but it's actually just getting a group of people to look into what it might take to end world hunger and lay out the options for maybe doing it or not down the line


[09-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
basically, politics


[09-Aug-20 07:51 PM] wren#0114
~~if thats true then good, executive branch should be rendered more impotent than they have been acting over the last few decades~~


[09-Aug-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the tax roll thing may also have consequiences towards social security, so that's fun


[09-Aug-20 08:12 PM] byte[]#2610
you mean payroll tax


[09-Aug-20 08:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[09-Aug-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it's also defaced with some letters on the top there :twismug:


[09-Aug-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
"waiving"


[09-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, maybe he's about to throw it down into the stadium.


[09-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe that's the point and we misunderstood this entirely :glowing_eyes:


[09-Aug-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[09-Aug-20 08:45 PM] wren#0114
kek


[09-Aug-20 09:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1292456549240262662?s=21

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‘Christianity Will Have Power’: A Pledge Bonding Trump to Evangelicals
Donald Trump made a promise to white evangelical Christians, whose support can seem mystifying to the outside observer.
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[09-Aug-20 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/elizabethjdias/status/1292437596145098752?s=21

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This is a topic that is controversial. It has torn families apart. It has dogged reporters & scholars. It has strengthened faith for some & destroyed it for others. It has revealed a polarized nation. And it will matter greatly to who wins the White House in November 2/
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[09-Aug-20 09:04 PM] illumnious#7938
:twismug:


[09-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Religion being entwined with the state hurts the religion


[09-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Few things have hurt Christianity like American evangelicalism

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[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/elizabethjdias/status/1292437695902482432?s=21

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[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, all the kiddie diddling didn't do it any favours


[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
they seem invincible


[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Catholics had their own problems


[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How could they not be


[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People give them their life savings


[09-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because a man told them god wanted him to have another private jet


[09-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These people on abortion want a total cultural shift, which won't happen


[09-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If you overturn Roe you're just going to have specific states liberalizing abortion to the extreme


[09-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And the people against abortion won't be able to do shit


[09-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But Alabama can finally put abortion doctors in the gallows tho


[09-Aug-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
> Because a man told them god wanted him to have another private jet
meanwhile i cant even get my parents to buy me video games :ts_cry:


[09-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Unless you intentionally flood the state with people to ban abortion at the ballot


[09-Aug-20 09:09 PM] jlun2#8758
arent doctors rich? they can prob leave the state @Teaspoon


[09-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Doctors aren't rich


[09-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless they're in plastic surgery in Hollywood


[09-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
These people also say "Backalley abortions are a myth, pre-legalized abortion people just had the kid"


[09-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise they're paying off their tuition until they're in their 60s


[09-Aug-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
> pre-legalized abortion people just had the kid
why is family planning still controversial again? how do those screaming shits


[09-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Religious people hate contraceptives


[09-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I never understood why, exactly.


[09-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
preacher said so


[09-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But why


[09-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it about tricking God or something?


[09-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thought you were going to have another worshipper but I pulled a little sneaky on ya"


[09-Aug-20 09:15 PM] jlun2#8758
if they care about reproduction why dont they support https://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2020-07-13-human-sperm-stem-cells-grown-in-lab-early-step-toward-infertility-treatment.aspx


[09-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Same reason the Vatican doesn't support cloning: it is messing with natural reproduction I guess


[09-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it gives people power over their own body


[09-Aug-20 09:17 PM] jlun2#8758
> messing with natural reproduction
marbled crayfish be like :wheeze:


[09-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's not good


[09-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Your body belongs to god


[09-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IVF is good though


[09-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, look at most breeds of dogs and tell me with a straight face humans can be trusted with gene fuckery


[09-Aug-20 09:19 PM] jlun2#8758
sure
how else will we get cat boys


[09-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[09-Aug-20 09:20 PM] wren#0114

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[09-Aug-20 09:21 PM] illumnious#7938
Chile What is this https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-says-trump-executive-actions-show-hes-going-after-social-security-medicare-1523875


[09-Aug-20 09:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
re: that headline, the thing Trump is doing with the payroll tax is...making the money that should be going into social security specifically...not do that.


[09-Aug-20 09:55 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's the kind of thing you'd only do if a) you believed everyone has a nest egg, b) that nest egg isn't a government program, and c) old people don't matter, only making money does


[09-Aug-20 09:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but social security has the word "social" in the name and therefore it's socialist and unamerican, y'see


[09-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
```Is it about tricking God or something?```
>tfw tricking the Allmighty with a piece of rubber


[09-Aug-20 10:06 PM] jlun2#8758
latex sky daddy :sombralick:


[09-Aug-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/511245-dollar-tree-family-dollar-now-requiring-masks-in-policy-reversal

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Dollar Tree, Family Dollar now requiring masks in policy reversal
Dollar Tree and Family Dollar, in a policy reversal, are now requiring customers to wear masks inside stores.
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[09-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it's **CANCEL  TIME**


[09-Aug-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/511214-mnuchin-if-democrats-want-to-challenge-executive-actions-in-court

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Mnuchin: Democrats will 'have a lot of explaining to do' if they wa...
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Sunday defended President Trump’s coronavirus executive actions and said that Democrats would be responsible for delaying assistance to Americans if they challenged them in court.
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[09-Aug-20 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
ah yes. Of course.


[09-Aug-20 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon you were exactly correct.


[09-Aug-20 10:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
Correct about what?


[09-Aug-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the executive order basically being a reputation trap for democrats


[09-Aug-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is the asshole for making an executive order that basically does nothing and has no teeth, however democrats come out looking liek the asshole because they tell him "Hey, no you don;t have the power to do this" because the executive order has to do with releif benefits


[09-Aug-20 10:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
Ah, I suspected that too.


[09-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/09/belarus-election-lukashenko-landslide-victory-fixing-claims

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Belarus election: Lukashenko set to announce landslide victory amid...
Observers fear trouble may follow state exit poll giving incumbent president unexpected 80% of vote
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[09-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
unexpected :wheeze:


[09-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Opponent#3498
how much did they 'expect'? 99.5? :wheeze:


[09-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
146

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[09-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
69


[09-Aug-20 10:54 PM] jlun2#8758
thought it was refferring to orange man & got mini heart attck

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[09-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[09-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The guy who makes porn of Overwatch characters on Patreon probably has made more money than the original modellers


[09-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, _definitely_


[09-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Marukomuru#8409
💰 :shrugpony: 💰


[09-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck, there are numerous SFM artists on patreon that've made more


[09-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't the OW give an official thumbs up to porn anyway


[09-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Does any other franchise have a dedicated Wikipedia page for its R34


[09-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno, afaik they decided to not chase it at least


[09-Aug-20 11:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really think Democrats *should* have very little explaining to do. "We wanted to do these things, but our republican colleagues voted against it. Trump then signed EOs claiming to help in the same way, but he does not have the power to declare these things, nor should he. On top of that, his orders hurt more Americans than our plan would have."


[09-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/511256-protests-erupt-in-belarus-after-exit-polls-show-president-winning

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Protests erupt in Belarus after exit polls show president winning r...
Protests erupted in Belarus after exit polls showed longtime President Alexander Lukashenko was set to win reelection,
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[09-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
See also: United States roughly three months from now


[09-Aug-20 11:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yyyyyyyyyyep


[09-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
pffft, the narrative on FOX NEWS is already that Trump literally saved every american with his EO and Do Nothing Pelosi and Sham Schumer are working hard to rob hard working americans of their money


[09-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>70% of vote, nearest candidate under 7%


[09-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
considering Belarus, it really is a wonder it's not 146%


[09-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't even the pretense of a fair election, but then again Putin got 76% in 2018


[09-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nearest candidate was 11%


[10-Aug-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Regarding the Payroll cut.
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[10-Aug-20 12:09 AM] wren#0114
solution: shrink gov to reduce spending, cut income and social security taxes


[10-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
nah, this will likely be quietly reversed once Trump's out.


[10-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
this is his re-election bid.


[10-Aug-20 01:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
of course if he isn't re-elected, all of the deferred taxes coming due could be blamed on pres. 46 for *not* being reversed


[10-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[10-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
can he be re-elected after the next president?


[10-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Opponent#3498
is that technically possible? Someone gets a term, then doesn't get re-elected, can they run again?


[10-Aug-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[10-Aug-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as long as they havent had their second term, they can run for another one


[10-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Hopefully he croaks before then


[10-Aug-20 02:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
`can he be re-elected after the next president?`
Yes. You can only serve two terms, but they don't have to be consecutive.


[10-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Phelan#7647
You can serve two and a half terms at maximum (10 years)


[10-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Phelan#7647
Only way that happens is if you're the VP and the President dies in office after 2 year on the job, you can finish his term and run two more times.


[10-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[10-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Synfag#9241

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[10-Aug-20 02:54 AM] byte[]#2610
to recite a tired meme:
the US, despite making up only about 5% of the global population, accounts for 25% of global covid cases


[10-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Is it mathematically accurate?
A bit lazy to check


[10-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
The 5% thing looks plausible


[10-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Serenity#9645
https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nazis-infiltrate-my-little-pony-fandom-637665/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Nazis infiltrate ‘My Little Pony’ fandom
How did the fanbase around a children’s show preaching kindness and acceptance become a home for White Supremacists and the far Right?
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[10-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Serenity#9645
looks like these people are still going headstrong on this


[10-Aug-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/us/north-paulding-high-school-covid-19-cases/index.html

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Georgia school seen in photo of a crowded hallway will briefly move...
A Georgia high school that came under scrutiny last week when a student shared a photo of a crowded hallway will temporarily move to virtual learning after it reported nine cases of Covid-19, according to a letter the school district sent to parents Sunday.
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[10-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>looks like these people are still going headstrong on this

Dilarus must have wrote this article :smugcaddy:


[10-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Serenity#9645
seems like its actualy Dexanth who is trying to advertise https://twitter.com/FiMFightsBack

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FriendshipFightsFascism (@FiMFightsBack)
The MLP Fandom has no place for Nazis, and yet we have a fascism problem. We're here to help change that. #FriendshipFightsFascism #HarmonyOverHate
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[10-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
har har har
Love how this doesn't work too well


[10-Aug-20 04:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
"Problem"


[10-Aug-20 04:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Just a few edgelords here and there.


[10-Aug-20 04:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
every fandom has nazis, they;re like roaches. They get in everything and are hard to get rid of.


[10-Aug-20 04:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hardly any issue.


[10-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
They usually go on various topics like this
The subject doesn't matter much
>>550070


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[10-Aug-20 04:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[10-Aug-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m more interested in the fact that there are captain america nazi fans despite the fact that his whole schtik is punching nazis in the face


[10-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He is ubermensch?


[10-Aug-20 04:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
Some people are just racist, and not necessarily Nazis.


[10-Aug-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yes but i mean specifically people who identify as nazis


[10-Aug-20 04:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/1f7/645/ac98f85167aff6a343cb99c9c4244aaeb6-26-evil-captain-america.rsquare.w700.jpg

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[10-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Serenity#9645
national/racial socialism is bad just as most forms of extreme socialisms it would be imposable to get rid of people who think a race is better dead to solve things, just as much as killing of a entire class will solve things. its a pretty violent and in my opinion bad way to think


[10-Aug-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nazis were not socialists actually, they used socialism as a trojan horse to expand their party and then slaughtered the socialist party when they lived out their usefulness


[10-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>killing of a entire class will solve things

It kinda worked for bolsheviks with russian nobles


[10-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:derpchrys:


[10-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Serenity#9645
"kinda" worked untill they started concentration camps for all the people who didnt accept the party


[10-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Yeah, which is why I am ironical.


[10-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
A lot of people didn't accept similar movements just because they were scared of this happening again afaik


[10-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8
if you dont wanna read the 3 books here is a short way to see why national socialisms is indeed socialist. actually takes alot from marx

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Hitler's Socialism | Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments
"I am a socialist.” - Hitler, from his "Zweites Buch" (Second Book) Page 50.

Some continue to believe that Hitler and National Socialism wasn't REAL (National) Socialism. Some believe that the totalitarian State of the Third Reich had no power at all, and that the market was ...
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[10-Aug-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

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Were the Nazis Socialists?
What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?
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[10-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
I know, in fact, stalin was bros with hitler until the ussr invasion


[10-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Churchil was bros with Hitler until France got invaded


[10-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Also, they never said germans are nazis, they always painted them as "fascists" in their propaganda


[10-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
(Soviets)


[10-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"nazi" is a very post war thing


[10-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Serenity#9645
replace class/jews with marx with race/jews with hitler and you actually find that alot are in common down to the way that policies were made.  there was a slight individualism but it wasnt ment to stick around, it was a means to a end. Italian fascism was despised by hitler because it was too weak cus it was the "3rd way" not socialisum


[10-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Truly, Bernie Sanders and AOC are the real villains here


[10-Aug-20 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you replace anything with anything, you can turn one thing into another thing


[10-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trying to dethrone Trump and institute a new age of fascist oppression under the guise of equality, all for the glory of the Soros-Gates-Bezos triumvirate


[10-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>"nazi" is a very post war thing

There are still people around here who unironically think germs were fascists
Thanks to soviet propaganda never saying the n-word


[10-Aug-20 04:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nationalist socialist party was socialist at it;s start until hitler rose to power and basically used socialism like the CCP uses communism


[10-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"haha, you see, if fascists nationalize an industry, that turns them into _socialists_, so they're actually leftists! CHECKMATE, LIBERALS"


[10-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Next up, the DPRK is a democracy because it has "democratic" in its name


[10-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Serenity#9645
idk where teaspoon is going off on, im talking more of ideals of books and policy. nothing about bernie or liberals, cus i am a liberal. lol


[10-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Same, it is pretty derailing imo


[10-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Soviets most likely didn't say they are warring against nazis to not confuse own people


[10-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because we all haven't seen this song and dance play out before a hundred times already


[10-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Serenity#9645
probaganda is pretty funny, you have a socialist dictatorship, but one is a ally and another is a enemy and they are allied with the new italian fascists. its better to label them as that. as to not upset your allies


[10-Aug-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the difference between the rich and the jews is that rich people actually have powers, jewish people were pigeon holed into banking due to a law technicality and didnt actually have any power


[10-Aug-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the rich arent a religion


[10-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
DID YOU KNOW


[10-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The spanish word for swine, pork, the lowest of the low of filth and depravation


[10-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is "marrano"


[10-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Serenity#9645
if you actually look into italian fascism. its nothing like hitlers socialism. hitler despised the governance of it. and it doesnt matter if they hold the banks or real power, it is a uprising against a common enemy to establish socialist policy under a totalian government


[10-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which coincidentally, was also the term used for "secret jews", those that had publicly converted to christianity but still considered them selves jewish


[10-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Serenity#9645
like like the proles that didnt want a revolution got shot too they were the enemt of the revolution


[10-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Hitler's socialism"


[10-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those that _publicly_ practiced judaism, of course, had their property seized and were expelled from the country into Africa


[10-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Serenity#9645
both had concentration camps when movement became not feasible. if you were a enemy of the party, you were eliminated or forced to work


[10-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is...is the argument that Nazis weren't fascist?


[10-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
TIK is... a questionable source. @Serenity


[10-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Opponent#3498
and I'm saying that as someone who used to love his WW2 historical works


[10-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe but all the sources are not, like each of the manifestos and policies in place


[10-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
he's very _very_ fixated on the nazi/socialism idea, among other things. He's also ancap, or at least he is as far as we both understand it.


[10-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh


[10-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Amusingly "marrano" comes from the moors' labelling of jews during the al-andalus occupation


[10-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So the moors called jews pigs and then the catholics just decided to keep the meme going


[10-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't history just _lovely_


[10-Aug-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[10-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Serenity#9645
still dont understand why everyone hates jews seems to be a reoccurring theme for some reason


[10-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Probably cause they are well organized minorities in many countries.


[10-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because due to constant oppression they coagulate in closed communities and specialize in certain industries that because of their insularity become part of their identity and thus oppressed and despised and ostracized but socially necessary so the insulation continues from external and internal pressure


[10-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The clearest example is how JESUS CHRIRST OF NAZARETH, SON OF GOD stated that money lending is bad


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So christians can't lend money


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So they needed jews to get loans from


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe, but why did marx hate them then if they were a organised minority and not the upper class?


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which made them good at book keeping, maths, banking, etc


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Serenity#9645
why did alot of class socialists hate them, this is what i dont understand


[10-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And despised because... nobody likes banks


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it was the only legal way for christians to get loans


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And god knows people wanted money


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then they didn't want to repay that money


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Particularly not to _jews_


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Serenity#9645
but why a religion? and not just the people who made it?


[10-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So just expel them and keep their money


[10-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Marx didn't hate jews, Marx hated the role in society jews were forced to play due to prejudices and the addiction to money people had


[10-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Self-fulfilling prophecies.


[10-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As for why a religion, it's because CHRIST said so


[10-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You tell one person he can only want money, another he is a criminal, another he will be good at math.


[10-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You then go "haha, I was right" 20 years later.


[10-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
You didn't let them be anything else.


[10-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Serenity#9645
so wait anti-Semitism isnt anti-Semite cus he just hated them for the role they played? cus god told him too?


[10-Aug-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
bourgioisie = jews swap out is the most smooth brain take I've ever seen


[10-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wanted them to be free and to break free.


[10-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He did not hate them for being what they were.


[10-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He hated that they were not free.


[10-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You've been on derpi for over half a decade, I am _sure_ you've seen worse


[10-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hillbe existed


[10-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking _kyleb_ was a thing


[10-Aug-20 04:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
bourgeoisie are a class of people that exist due to material shit, race is a spook, whiteness didn't even exist til relatively recently in human history, aryan was an invention, marx wasn't prejudiced against the bourgeoisie, he recognized that throughout history material conditions mean there is class struggle between the proletariat and bourgeoisie.

These are material classes and their struggle is material, no matter how much you love or hate billionaires, class struggle will still be rational for proletarian people, and bourgeoisie will still take their surplus value and lower their wage growth relative to productivity.


[10-Aug-20 04:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
until as a contradiction of capitalism, they cannot afford the very products they produce and capitalism kills itself unless it becomes increasingly more authoritarian and propaganda filled, which it has.


[10-Aug-20 04:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
marx's analysis is material and relevant to modern economics study today, noone takes austrian economics seriously except to fuck over working class people.


[10-Aug-20 04:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
jewish people are not materially inherently anything by nature, marx avoids essentialism entirely.


[10-Aug-20 04:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
marxism and fascism are inherently incompatible because one views the world materially and the other one from social constructs.


[10-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Don't forget the Patchu guy


[10-Aug-20 04:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, patachu is the single dumbest person on derpibooru right now, you're correct.


[10-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Serenity#9645
can you point this out in on the jewish question or the conquest of bread that we should all be peaceful and not hate jews or higher classes but all come together?


[10-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
who made a sockpuppet account just to make a fake communist argue with himself


[10-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Patachu is an entirely different universe of absurdity


[10-Aug-20 04:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
on the jewish question doesn't say anything about jews being bad on the basis of being jews, it states that jews are not truly liberated until they liberate themselves from capitalism and society's perception of jewish people as capitalists, money lenders, ect


[10-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For all we know he's a hardcore tankie and he's just playing a fool to make remotely sane people despise what is most public persona represents


[10-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
From what I've seen recently, I'm pretty sure he has some kind of disorder.


[10-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And fascist stuff he latches on to to try to feel normal.


[10-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Would be in line with how he keeps creating alts and anons everywhere to talk with and about himself


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
it is not based on them being 'jewish', it is based on society's social conception of what 'jews' are, the very same conception that nazis used to persecute jews, marx argues that they should be free from those ideas to truly be free.
not that jews are degenerate capitalists, learn to read.


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, anti-anxiety pills make people less racist.


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] byte[]#2610
do you mean benzos or beta blockers


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Beta blokkers.


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can't remember things I didn't know


[10-Aug-20 05:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Marx's "On the Jewish Question" is not anti-Semitic in the slightest.


[10-Aug-20 05:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
it is actually a response to people that are referring to jewish people by the very stereotypes, conceptions he himself is protesting against in the text.
He is literally responding to reactionaries.


[10-Aug-20 05:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, lessons are over kids, take notes.


[10-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>taking notes post 2005


[10-Aug-20 05:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can type notes
but yes, people don't read books post 2012 either


[10-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
IT'S CALLED A PHONE, DAD


[10-Aug-20 05:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
so many people literally refuse to read, but constantly love to reference texts they have no understanding of, it's all very silly.


[10-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason I don't bother referring to Marx.


[10-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
lemondrop.txt


[10-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, multiple reasons.


[10-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
One is I don't plan to read Marx much at all, so it'd be disingenuous to talk about it beyond very broad strokes.


[10-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Another is that I never see anyone bring it up to say "Marx had good ideas" unless they're already off talking about how to actually fix shit, not trying to argue on Marx.


[10-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
The people who want to argue *on Marx* tend to just want to go MARX BAD OMG REEEEEEEEEEEEee


[10-Aug-20 05:04 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[10-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, I kinda want to carry around a DAS KAPITAL book around work now


[10-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
For all I care, Marx could've been the most racist person in existence, it really wouldn't make a big difference to talking about socialism.


[10-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Serenity#9645
so what is the worldly religion of the jew? money is his god is it not? so if we seperate the money from the jew he isnt a jew anymore. i dont believe in his ideals or economics but i will say that he contributed to economics field with his ideas


[10-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
waaaaaat


[10-Aug-20 05:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is about the social conception of 'the jew'


[10-Aug-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like context matters


[10-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is an understanding of judaism in line with an exposure of the term coming only from South Park


[10-Aug-20 05:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
and, marx was jewish you himbo, he was a subject of these stereotypes and conceptions and is to this day


[10-Aug-20 05:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
the text is a response to what people see jewish people as, that they may as well not be a 'jew' in their eyes without the stereotypical traits, and that society must be free from these stereotypes and misconceptions to truly emancipate and free jewish poeple


[10-Aug-20 05:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
but you can out of context quote all you want


[10-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss the days when "oh, you're jewish" just meant "you celebrate christmas two weeks early and get your presents piecemeal instead of all in one go" -_-


[10-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Serenity#9645
not gonna lie same


[10-Aug-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:tired:


[10-Aug-20 05:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
jewish people must be free from judaism to emancipate themselves just as a christian must be free from christianity


[10-Aug-20 05:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
marx didn't like religion, old news.


[10-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Serenity#9645
if i remember correctly he expectually hated jewish n**gers (yeah old time word so i understand his use)


[10-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
see, this is why I find it pointless to try and read things like Das Kapital. a) because nothing new has been said on it for the past century b) you'll just spend your life going in circles arguing with someone else quoting different parts of the Book


[10-Aug-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
he didn't actually, it was a mistranslation of a german word for german jews to make fun of other jews.


[10-Aug-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
leitzpig or something I believe.


[10-Aug-20 05:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a very specific word with no english equivilent.


[10-Aug-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not a fan of religion much either, it pigeon holes people into roles and stereotypes and never lets them out of those stereotypes in perception


[10-Aug-20 05:14 AM] byte[]#2610
> so what is the worldly religion of the jew? money is his god is it not? so if we seperate the money from the jew he isnt a jew anymore
wew lad, real mask off moment here


[10-Aug-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
it doesn't matter if marx was racist, because his works were not and his practical real life activism was up there with anti-racism


[10-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Serenity#9645
@byte[] What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.” Karl Marx, “On the Jewish Question,” 1844


[10-Aug-20 05:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
you don't read das kapital and be like hmm yes he hated jewish and black people it says that here in this academic work analysing capitalism, because it straight up doesn't.


[10-Aug-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
criticizing marx as an individual person in the 19th century helps noone, because we do not care what he personally was like,


[10-Aug-20 05:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
we care about his academic works, that particular text is basically a singular response essay, it's not relevant to anything else.


[10-Aug-20 05:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
the entire article is about human emancipation and about how emancipation for jews alone, giving them privileges christians have, does not actually liberate them as people for they are oppressed by the very status as jews, so they must be emancipated as humans, and not jews, they can only be emancipated when they are not emancipated as jews, but as people.


[10-Aug-20 05:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
that is the specific point being made.


[10-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Serenity#9645
i know its a shortened version, but for context for moosebug so he doesnt think im the one saying that stuff


[10-Aug-20 05:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
obviously in 2020 a lot of the wording sounds horrible, but that's not the purpose of the work even then.
Could it be called antisemitic? Sure, is the point of the work to be that? No.


[10-Aug-20 05:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
90% of actual US politics discourse today

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[10-Aug-20 05:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
if that makes sense? I'm sure marx had a lot of disdain for judaism given he renounced it, but this was the nature of atheism in the 19th century and I endeavor you to find someone writing with any more nuance on the issue in the given time.


[10-Aug-20 05:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
but yes, modern US political discourse literally has less nuance in it's anti-semitism than marx himself in that infamous work lmao


[10-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Serenity#9645
i understand where you are standing and the nuance, i just dont like his economics personally, and dislike him as a person even more.


[10-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Marx was a shit


[10-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He was a deadweight on his family and had the hygiene and manners of a hobo


[10-Aug-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
alcoholism makes him relateable tho


[10-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Doesn't mean he didn't have some decent ideas and wrote them down


[10-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Serenity#9645
ill give you that lol


[10-Aug-20 05:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
lmao, what else you gonna do in 19th century?


[10-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Serenity#9645
*drinks my 8th glass of vodka today*


[10-Aug-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
hit up the pub and write mad essays methinks


[10-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Serenity#9645
hitler didnt have all bad ideas, same as marx. no one is 100% evil


[10-Aug-20 05:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
there are cute letters of him asking engels to mail over wine for his wife because it makes her happier lmao, the letters between engels and him are hilarious


[10-Aug-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
like damn they really do be real people shitposting at eachother, very epic


[10-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Serenity#9645
lol


[10-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sure, I guess Hitler, uh, liked dogs


[10-Aug-20 05:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://marxists.catbull.com/archive/marx/works/1866/letters/66_11_12.htm


[10-Aug-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
based anti-racist marx
"You will have been just as delighted by the defeat of President Johnson in the latest elections as I was. The workers in the North have at last fully understood that white labour will never be emancipated so long as black labour is still stigmatised."


[10-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Serenity#9645
he was vegetarian and very huge on animal rights, didnt drink so many things. if you look at things that are taboo today churchill had way way worse personal stuff then hitler could dream of


[10-Aug-20 05:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
Churchill was arguably nearly as bad overall as hitler


[10-Aug-20 05:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't think anyone who praises churchill is a good person, he was responsible for deliberate racist genocide too and was overall an absolutely horrible man


[10-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I imagine a lot of Hilter's vegetarianism was based on his teeth being utterly fucked


[10-Aug-20 05:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, marx's earlier works were certainly not as good, but by the 1860s he was very much anti-racist and probably one of the more progressive people around. On the jewish question is one of his earlier works in 1843, he was then about 30


[10-Aug-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
however yes he had family problems for sure


[10-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Serenity#9645
im just argueing no marx or hitler isnt satan, but they both have very bad things about them, hitler got many ideas from marx and so many others did too, but marx didnt have a hand in all those killed but laid the framework, but you could argue someone else would do it


[10-Aug-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
he neglected his family for his works and alcohol.
marx isn't compareable to hitler you himbo


[10-Aug-20 05:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
on the scale of bad, marx was like, mildly shit as a person


[10-Aug-20 05:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
hitler and churchil are up there with the worst of them.


[10-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed, but his ideals even if he didnt know it, did lead to many deaths


[10-Aug-20 05:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
stalin wasn't following marxism when he did commonity production under '''socialism''''


[10-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's like blaming a maths teacher for a serial killer knowing how to count how many bullets are left in a magazine as they shoot up a church


[10-Aug-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's almost like there are hundreds of different leftist tendencies each with their own views, by that definition hegel has killed billions, as has adam smith.


[10-Aug-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
libertarian socialists don't be killing millions


[10-Aug-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
libertarian socialism has existed far longer than right ''''libertarianism'''' stole the terminology


[10-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Serenity#9645
teaspoon very bad faith analogy the math teacher doesnt teach a framework of governance


[10-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_laughs in rare mineral mining rights_


[10-Aug-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
leftcomms aint be killing very many people


[10-Aug-20 05:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
ordinary conservatives be shooting up abortion clinics


[10-Aug-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
leftist terrorism barely exists today, right wing terrorism is comparable to islamic terrorism in acts and deaths (which is also right wing mind you but I'm seperating them to be kind)


[10-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ETA claimed to be leftist but they were also _hilariously_ racist and fascistic


[10-Aug-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
antifa roughing up a white supremecist a bit and maybe some zealous trump supports, a punch or two isn't comparable to white supremacist mass shootings


[10-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Serenity#9645
leftist terrorisum doesnt exist today? there are many places that are shot or burned down by people claiming leftist stance. not dismissing right dumb shit just saying it isnt one side


[10-Aug-20 05:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can argue all you want about BLM, but any real harm it's done is a joke in comparison to right wing terrorism.


[10-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
it's actually difficult to scale 'shitty' for rulers vs everyone else.


[10-Aug-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
8 people dead? that's a walk in the park, say hello to the mosque shooter copycats and aussie boi himself


[10-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
politicians are a class of their own. A straight up beneficial amazing decision will probably kill more people than any serial killer could. And that's the best case scenario.


[10-Aug-20 05:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
a few buildings burnt? that's not terrorism, that's not a bomb that's been set up to kill and injure in combination like 50 people


[10-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Serenity#9645
im not saying BLM im saying locking people inside under a left wing ideology that i support (but not the violence) and setting it on fire?


[10-Aug-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm saying it's disingenuous as shit to compare BLM to the El Paso Shooter and the many friendly faces that believe in his shit


[10-Aug-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that for all the right is worried about false-flag operatives, the only false flag operatives that have turned up have been firebrands claiming to be (or blamed as) antifa/whatever, who turned out to be part of some white nationalist group or something


[10-Aug-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
in america, right wing terrorism is comparable in scale to islamic terrorism, and in fact happens more often, it is just foiled slightly more often so they're about equal in damage.


[10-Aug-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
left wing terrorism meanwhile is barely a blip on the radar.


[10-Aug-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
now if I were unfair I could say, the right wing extremists have similar beliefs to the islamic extremists, just both hate eachother, but they're still both right wing, that doubles the right wing terrorism numbers.


[10-Aug-20 05:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
a lot of what gets tallied up as "left wing terrorism" tends to be vandalism - you know, spraypainting words on a building, tearing down a confederate statue, that sort of thing


[10-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Serenity#9645
the violent people are white supremacists that legitimately think they are better so they must fight for the little guy. ill condemn all the violence right and left but a few people that make a big boom isnt like many small ones everwhere meaning more people belive the insane things


[10-Aug-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
meanwhile right wing terrorism is bombings designed to kill and injure a large amount of people at once and shootings, or both together.


[10-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
smh can't believe Chet Willard Blanche the third Jr. would turn out to be a member of the "Christian Gas Guzzlers for Trump" advocacy group after he was arrested for setting fire to family owned businesses during BLM "riots"


[10-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Serenity#9645
stuff like christchurch super bad, but 30+ people in a month that we want to protect? thats also super bad too


[10-Aug-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the difference is that BLM is generally fighting for generally good things, that would significantly reduce white people being murdered by cops too


[10-Aug-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
white supremacists are genuinely wanting to genocide people or deport them (which they'll violently resist, resulting in more deaths).


[10-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love how people will link videos or articles of some white guy getting murdered by cops as some sort of defence


[10-Aug-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
weird trump supporter neocon religious groups also generally agree with said white supremacists on most issues.


[10-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And not further evidence that maybe there's some sort of really fucked up problem with how policing works in the US


[10-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean it gets as stupid as someone getting shot for saying all lives matter, thats a good phrase, black people do too. why did that death need to happen, why did there need to be segregation in things like the CHAZ? why does a immigrant buisness need to pay BLM or be protested and run out? all things i can condemn like christchurch or actual racist groups like the KKK


[10-Aug-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's just a level of scale on what they believe, sure they don't believe in the day of the rope perhaps, but they believe in policy changes that'll kill black people


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
All lives matter is stupid and misinformed, it's a deliberate ignorance of what black lives matter means


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Serenity#9645
all lives do matter


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"White men get senselessly murdered by cops too!"


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah and that's fucked up


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
It someone says all lives matter, just ignore them. They're doing no harm.


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
obviously they do, but that's not the point.
black lives matter doesn't mean white lives don't.


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Serenity#9645
same as black lives all lives matter, that isnt stupid that isnt bad, all lives matter


[10-Aug-20 05:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they are doing harm by downplaying the issue


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
but that's the point, it's like when trans or progressive people use the word cis to describe cis people, and some cis people think it's a slur, but only because they use 'trans' as a slur.


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
There's not enough of them to "downplay" it.


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
downplaying the issue that their life does matter?


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's reductionism and advertising


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all lives matter, but black lives are in mroe danger right now


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
I assure you there's a LOT


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not enough to dilute the BLM phrase.


[10-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The point is "all lives don't matter until black lives matter just as much"

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[10-Aug-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
^


[10-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But that's too many words for a society that struggles to understand cereal mascot slogans


[10-Aug-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
that is literally the point, all lives matter, but only when black lives do too.


[10-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
i can get behind that, but just saying all lives matter means black lives matter too, not as lesser just they matter


[10-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
the problem with 'all lives matter' is it's a reactionary response to hearing 'black lives matter', thinking they're attacking and hate white people and exclude white people, it's not simply a phrase, it's an attack


[10-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
nah it just means you are supremacist and deserve to be shot :dab:


[10-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
it comes with baggage.


[10-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
ive been saying all lives matter long before 2020 cus they all do. black white whatever dies like in chistchurch, those lives matter


[10-Aug-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Same reason why "defund the police" rolls off the tongue better than "let's take the money that would go into the police we have now and use it instead to bolster social programs and train a new police force from the ground up, having disbanded the corrupt police unions that have militarized the cops against citizens instead of protecting and serving them"


[10-Aug-20 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
all lives matter as a slogan is like walking up to a fire fighter while they;re putting out a burning house and asking them to water down your perfectly fine house when it;s not at all in danger


[10-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they are all ridiculously bad slogans imo

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[10-Aug-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
language is descriptive, not prescriptive, if right wing groups use all lives matter specifically to attack BLM, attacking BLM becomes the default meaning of ALM


[10-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
whoa friendo, you just exceeded your "new word a day" limite


[10-Aug-20 05:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fighting over slogans is dumb. If people want to say it, so be it.


[10-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Please donate $5 in order for us to send you a definition for 4 new triple-syllable words


[10-Aug-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
language is a pain in the ass, and for the same reason you should criticize woke wankers that go on about AAVE and cultural appropriation of words


[10-Aug-20 05:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or, to use another example, "I just wanna grill" isn't a harmless neutral thing to say when what you're implying is you wish the protests would stop and that life could go back to normal, because "back to normal" is fine for you but it isn't for the protesters


[10-Aug-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can't segregate language after all, it's descriptive, it exists because of how it's used, not because of how some dictionary or thesuarus lists shit, those change as language does, not the other way around.


[10-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Serenity#9645
so if some BLM leaders support marx, then i can assume they all want to attack capitalism? thats a weak arguement. as a phrase BLM and ALM both stand pretty good, when you make them a group with a ideal it changes


[10-Aug-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean if all lives matter people were marching supporting BLM people


[10-Aug-20 05:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
`cultural appropriation`
Lol
*Turns on Jazz music and eats a taco.*


[10-Aug-20 05:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
No one needs to be out there protesting for the rights of the people getting preferential treatment


[10-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ALM as a statement doesn't exist in a vacuum


[10-Aug-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
the definition would surely change if armed ALM walked up to cops open carrying to convince them to stop gassing and shooting people


[10-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Serenity#9645
then the people who are burning down places yelling BLM changes that too


[10-Aug-20 05:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Guns aren't for threats; they're for actions.


[10-Aug-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
why yes I'd be happy if they shot back at the cops brutalizing people too


[10-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
as a phrase, they both work. your trying to make a phrase a group that everyone belives in, i can make BLM look really evil. but i wont cus i belive in the phrase, not the idiots


[10-Aug-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
a well armed militia against state brutality sounds good to me.


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
left wing boog squad pls


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Make one


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Whoa there


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Serenity#9645
NFAC?


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A well organized militia is only OK if they're all good christian patriots


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
in minecraft of course, cops can't keep hoarding diamonds, it's ruining the diamond economy so they must be disappeared in lava


[10-Aug-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
Do it.


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If any of them are dirty whore socialists, time to call the ATF


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can only do it with a compound bow because I'm in Australian Liberal Liberty crusher land


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
*emeralds


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
tfw no left wing boog squad to take Elon's apartheid emeralds back


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Serenity#9645
well the arguements got extremely bad faith and its late im just gonna head off cus no one wants to talk


[10-Aug-20 05:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
Australians don't have guns?
Sad.


[10-Aug-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
not enough guns sadly


[10-Aug-20 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, we did try a left wing boog squad once and got COINTELPRO in response from the government


[10-Aug-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Black CHADther Party.


[10-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Australians have _Australia_


[10-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
fuck guns when the local flavour of poison ivy leads people to suicide


[10-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
IDK why Elon denies his original wealth just because he hates his dad a lot


[10-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Daddy issues do explain a lot of his problems

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[10-Aug-20 06:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
>idk why
I think it's obvious.


[10-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't most "self made billionaires" strive hard to make people forget they all got small loans of several millions dollars from their dads after graduating from ivy league colleges with no pending tuition loans?


[10-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"haha, just have a good idea and work hard :^) "


[10-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Musk is a weird situation from what I read, but still grew up in a rich white family during Apartheid


[10-Aug-20 06:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511261-louisville-police-crack-down-on-protest-caravans

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Louisville police crack down on protest caravans
The Louisville Metro Police Department announced on Sunday that it will be clamping down on protest caravans as demonstrations have continued in the city over the past few months following the police killings of Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and ot
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[10-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-is-now-blocking-all-encrypted-https-traffic-using-tls-1-3-and-esni/

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China is now blocking all encrypted HTTPS traffic that uses TLS 1.3...
The block was put in place at the end of July and is enforced via China's Great Firewall.
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[10-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[]


[10-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
> Through the new GFW update, Chinese officials are only targeting HTTPS traffic that is being set up with new technologies like TLS 1.3 and ESNI (Encrypted Server Name Indication).
> 
> Other HTTPS traffic is still allowed through the Great Firewall, if it uses older versions of the same protocols -- such as TLS 1.1 or 1.2, or SNI (Server Name Indication).
> 
> For HTTPS connections set up via these older protocols, Chinese censors can infer to what domain a user is trying to connect. This is done by looking at the (plaintext) SNI field in the early stages of an HTTPS connections.


[10-Aug-20 07:08 AM] byte[]#2610
they probably forgot about QUIC and DoH


[10-Aug-20 07:55 AM] Crow#5457
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[10-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
still lazy


[10-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just


[10-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Take their wallet


[10-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
u cant,police is gonna bonk u


[10-Aug-20 07:57 AM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[10-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Police can’t bonk you with a bullet if the person who lost their wallet goes missing


[10-Aug-20 07:58 AM] wren#0114
1 why are ppl going into debt for college
2 if they're poor but going to college, then they're getting scholarships or taking out insane debt. only one of those work out


[10-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Go to a trade school so we can flood the market with trade school grads and drive down the price of their services


[10-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Duh


[10-Aug-20 07:59 AM] wren#0114
go to trade school because local services for stuff like that are always in demand


[10-Aug-20 08:00 AM] wren#0114
go to community college for electrician work


[10-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes but when everyone is told to do that wages will get driven down


[10-Aug-20 08:00 AM] wren#0114
college system is gay rn


[10-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's only like that because people want college as an experience/right of passage


[10-Aug-20 08:01 AM] wren#0114
imagine taking on crushing debt that can't default even if you declare bankruptcy


[10-Aug-20 08:03 AM] byte[]#2610
>why are ppl going into debt for college
because (a) job application forms largely list that they only accept college graduates, which has displaced millions of otherwise competent people from the job market (b) generally in order to get accepted into the modern day job market you need to rely on connections from the university you attended


[10-Aug-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
otherwise it's basically hopeless, you can apply for hundreds of jobs and never even get an interview


[10-Aug-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
employers create artificial job scarcity to depress wages


[10-Aug-20 08:08 AM] byte[]#2610
besides, the real problem with college isn't that people are taking on debts to go to it, it's that it costs $20000 a semester to attend. wtf


[10-Aug-20 08:09 AM] wren#0114
yikes


[10-Aug-20 08:09 AM] wren#0114
on average?


[10-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's to pay bureaucrats and for buildings.


[10-Aug-20 08:09 AM] wren#0114
or is that like ivy league


[10-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It isn't for professors etc


[10-Aug-20 08:10 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm pretty sure that's below average


[10-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's "Look at how amazing our student union is! Look at how modern our cafeteria is, we have a Burger King"


[10-Aug-20 08:10 AM] wren#0114
wrong college


[10-Aug-20 08:11 AM] wren#0114
go to better one


[10-Aug-20 08:11 AM] wren#0114
stuffy colleges smh


[10-Aug-20 08:11 AM] byte[]#2610
and yes, of this massive payment, barely any at all goes to professors


[10-Aug-20 08:12 AM] wren#0114

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[10-Aug-20 08:13 AM] byte[]#2610
generally it goes to administration (lawyers etc.) and buying new property


[10-Aug-20 08:13 AM] wren#0114
I hardly made 10 grand in a year while undergrad, so I don't know how room and board is 10 grand. Maybe it's regional cost of living differences?


[10-Aug-20 08:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the lawyers are needed to bust up faculty and student unions, btw


[10-Aug-20 08:15 AM] wren#0114
I've had very good experiences with community college. Transferred 2 years of credits towards a 4 year bachelors, which saved a loooooot of money


[10-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Student unions are just places with gyms/rec rooms etc


[10-Aug-20 08:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm talking about grad students


[10-Aug-20 08:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh yeah, and yes that is important


[10-Aug-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
organizations that do part time teaching/TAing, grading, etc.


[10-Aug-20 08:16 AM] wren#0114
as the saying goes, if you're paying for grad school, you're doing it wrong


[10-Aug-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not the point of their union; they're _getting paid_, but it's a pittance, like $500 a semester


[10-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Crow#5457
jesus, I just had someone from another server call me a "shitbag bigot" because I posted that "don't be lazy" post


[10-Aug-20 08:17 AM] wren#0114
GRA and GTA grad students?


[10-Aug-20 08:17 AM] byte[]#2610
basically they are unionizing because they are getting screwed by administration


[10-Aug-20 08:20 AM] wren#0114
GRA/GTA get paid ~20 grand a year starting out, and are covered for tuition, and their workload is (on paper) 20 hours per week. at least from people I've known with it around here


[10-Aug-20 08:21 AM] wren#0114
problem being when some profs think themselves prestigous, and make grad students work much more than 20 hours per week because they know that the grad students are lining up to be in their lab and won't question it


[10-Aug-20 08:21 AM] wren#0114
which is what spooped me away from doing that route


[10-Aug-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
the buying property thing is in my opinion even worse than the huge administrative overhead


[10-Aug-20 08:23 AM] wren#0114
funny, I had wanted to be an astronomer really badly for a while. Read all about the job descriptions, how for years you write all the work and papers and do all the analyses, but the phd in charge gets all the credit while you get little recognition. Scared me off. Turns out that was grad school description


[10-Aug-20 08:23 AM] byte[]#2610
the university I attend (pitt) is particularly well known for buying large plots of residential land adjacent to the school (sure), destroying all the homes on it (uhh), and then rebuilding high cost apartments and dorms on top


[10-Aug-20 08:24 AM] byte[]#2610
this has resulted in massive gentrification of the oakland (pittsburgh) area


[10-Aug-20 08:25 AM] wren#0114
I never wanted the dorm life


[10-Aug-20 08:26 AM] byte[]#2610
that's fine, but a lot of people don't live nearby and the dorm is both guaranteed to you by the university and not going to be run by potentially an asshole landlord


[10-Aug-20 08:28 AM] wren#0114
how does it work there? here you have to pay room and board if you use the dorms, and the dorms are mandatory for the first year or so


[10-Aug-20 08:29 AM] wren#0114
which I skipped because community college transfer 💪


[10-Aug-20 08:29 AM] byte[]#2610
for all students, you have to pay room and dorm if you use the dorms, but you're not obligated to live on campus for any year


[10-Aug-20 08:30 AM] byte[]#2610
however, if you do use the services, first years have very limited room options and can only take from a selection of higher tier meal plans


[10-Aug-20 08:30 AM] wren#0114
is it a flat rate or is it cheaper with roomate in dorm


[10-Aug-20 08:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it depends on the building


[10-Aug-20 08:31 AM] byte[]#2610
most dorms only offer doubles, where two people share a room


[10-Aug-20 08:31 AM] byte[]#2610
but the cost for a smaller room which has singles in the smallest building is less


[10-Aug-20 08:32 AM] byte[]#2610
your cost of attendance doesn't depend on a roommate; if you get a double and your roommate drops out or nobody is ever placed in that room, you don't get charged extra


[10-Aug-20 08:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/ElleStanger/status/1292554150023016448

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[10-Aug-20 08:34 AM] byte[]#2610
found the CEO of antifa


[10-Aug-20 08:40 AM] jlun2#8758
> generally in order to get accepted into the modern day job market you need to rely on connections from the university you attended
i have no connections :ts_cry:


[10-Aug-20 08:40 AM] wren#0114

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[10-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.payscale.com/career-news/2013/05/mcdonalds-requiring-bachelors-degree

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McDonald's Requiring Bachelor's Degree
We know that level of education increases income earning potential. For example, Payscale reports that even fast food workers with a bachelor's degree
https://www.payscale.com/career-news/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/05/addingmachine.jpg


[10-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Crow#5457
from 2013, it's definitely gotten worse since then


[10-Aug-20 09:29 AM] wren#0114
I hate how college degree is pre-req for next income level, even to the point of paying new hires more because of degrees when really good industry vets are struggling to get raises to the min level of degree new hires (this is an experience from a friend in IT/cyber security)


[10-Aug-20 09:32 AM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/comments/i6mvc8/i_created_the_fake_join_antifa_site_that_went/

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r/BreadTube - I created the fake "join Antifa" site that went viral...
282 votes and 91 comments so far on Reddit
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[10-Aug-20 09:45 AM] jlun2#8758
how modern high school dropouts even sruvive in the US tbh
most searches give me prev gen where its not as bad


[10-Aug-20 10:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-07/canada-adds-419-000-jobs-in-july-recouping-55-of-covid-losses

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Canada Outpaces U.S., Recouping 55% of Jobs Lost to Pandemic
Canada’s economy recorded a third straight month of strong employment gains that have recouped more than half of losses from Covid-19.
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[10-Aug-20 10:04 AM] Crow#5457
surprise surprise, the study about the 1918 pandemic and how cities who implemented early and strict social distancing/mask requirements/etc bounced back way faster than those who didn't is holding up


[10-Aug-20 10:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn that's an awesome prank


[10-Aug-20 10:19 AM] Crow#5457
I don't think it's awesome at all, no need to go muddying the waters when they already have runny shit floating around in them


[10-Aug-20 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```but that's the point, it's like when trans or progressive people use the word cis to describe cis people, and some cis people think it's a slur, but only because they use 'trans' as a slur.```
it's not that people _think_ it's a slur. It's because that's exactly how it's used. The 'normies', but with more derision.


[10-Aug-20 11:18 AM] Opponent#3498
perhaps with advanced history of *chan you're used to that. I for one am not, even though, lucky me, no trans person I've interacted with tried to call me that.


[10-Aug-20 11:19 AM] Opponent#3498
and people don't use 'trans' as a slur. There are plenty of conventional words to use, because generally those who _would_ use slurs, do not wish to recognise trans as a thing period.


[10-Aug-20 11:21 AM] Opponent#3498
it IS, however, a viable label for a specific minority of cultural activists ('men bad, dick bad, must cut off dick', it doesn't even go as far as 'broadening gender roles' often, which I _do_ agree has a use for all, boggles the mind tbh with how expensive it is by our standards...)


[10-Aug-20 11:27 AM] Opponent#3498
BLM and DTP and ACAB roll of the tongue nicely, yeah. It also entirely destroys the meaning for either of those, I mentioned before, if your slogan needs a FAQ, ditch it and hire a better creator. The liberals are supposed to be creatively diverse and broad, and _this_ is the best the community could come up with?


[10-Aug-20 11:27 AM] Opponent#3498
unless, the slogans should be read straight by original design and mean exactly what one thinks they do.


[10-Aug-20 11:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[10-Aug-20 11:48 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i just guessed they will say so in the beginning


[10-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Opponent#3498
isn't that how all takeovers start? From a 'concerned neighbour' ruminating about 'people suffering too much'.


[10-Aug-20 11:54 AM] Opponent#3498
anyway. 
```all lives matter, but only when black lives do too.```
you came up with something better than BLM in 5 minutes in a Discord debate.


[10-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
still, though. I sometimes think that 'Black lives matter, hand over the cash or we ruin your business' isn't a bug of the movement; it's the intended design, whoever came up with BLM _wanted_ this to have happened, to destroy people cause there's an advantage in numbers, it's fun and potential free money.


[10-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it would certainly explan the vagueness very neatly.


[10-Aug-20 12:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511264-trump-suggests-some-states-may-pay-nothing-as-part-of-unemployment

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Trump suggests some states may 'pay nothing' as part of unemploymen...
President Trump suggested some states may “pay nothing” as part of the unemployment plan included in the coronavirus executive orders the president signed on Saturday.
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[10-Aug-20 12:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like mr Lobster Dominator talking his wonderful talk about personal responsibility and natural order, and becoming an icon for 'alt-right' in the process.


[10-Aug-20 12:06 PM] Opponent#3498
vague enough to be defensible, but with an intent in mind.


[10-Aug-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
>  Trump said some states may not have to pay, adding that "it will depend on the states." He said states will make an application that will be reviewed by the White House.
> 
> "So you know, they may be, they'll pay nothing in some instances or maybe they'll -- a little bit like the National Guard, like the National Guard, as you know. Sometimes we'll pay all of it depending on the tragedy, or whatever it may be, the disaster," he added. "Sometimes the state will pay 40%, 25%, 10% or nothing -- depending on how it works out."


[10-Aug-20 12:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah so basically he said the quiet part outloud again that democrat states get the shaft


[10-Aug-20 12:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or would if he even had the power to do any of this


[10-Aug-20 12:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not the question if he has the power to do it. It's a question of who's going to stop him.


[10-Aug-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably the bouncing checks full of no money


[10-Aug-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/mount-rushmore-trump-denies-carving-request-sounds-like-good-idea-2020-8

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Trump denied asking to have his face carved on Mount Rushmore, but ...
The New York Times reported on Saturday that a Trump administration official had asked about adding a new president to Mount Rushmore last year.
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[10-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd be _really_ suprised if he didn't mention it at some point.


[10-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be very _him_ thing to demand.


[10-Aug-20 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-kids-school-children-coronavirus-in-person-instruction

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Experts hope increased testing of children will help determine what role they play in transmission, as school districts around the country return to some form of school.
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[10-Aug-20 12:58 PM] illumnious#7938
Sigh https://www.instagram.com/p/CDsqTOyh699/?igshid=1f5kd3s5k59rd

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[10-Aug-20 12:58 PM] illumnious#7938
It’s a video


[10-Aug-20 01:01 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Always wondered why there was no bodycam footage released


[10-Aug-20 01:01 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnLnR0XtLIM

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Bodycam footage shows new details of George Floyd’s arrest
Leaked #police bodycam footage obtained by Daily Mail shows new details of #GeorgeFloyd's fatal #arrest


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[10-Aug-20 01:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Crow The virgin anti mask USA vs The chad mask wearing Canada


[10-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@NaturalNat🇯🇵 we know this allready and it changes jack shit. He was still murdered by the cops unjustly.


[10-Aug-20 01:51 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Just wanted  share


[10-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ye and thats ok but it was shared like twice allready when the daily mail releaced it


[10-Aug-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Aug-20 02:05 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This tbh


[10-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
good thing some rando can post on twitter without risk for free brownie points :twismug:


[10-Aug-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truly the american way


[10-Aug-20 02:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[10-Aug-20 02:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-plan-to-stop-trump-withholding-documents-if-biden-wins-2020-8

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Democrats are warning that if President Trump and his staff illegally destroy records during a presidential transition, they will face prosecution.
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[10-Aug-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Top Democrats fear Trump and his staff will shred documents, withhold important information and delete official emails on the way out if Biden wins the election. Here's what they plan to do to stop it


[10-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
1. Issue a stern warning
2. Hope for the best


[10-Aug-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3.if necessary, introduce knives to equation


[10-Aug-20 02:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
They won't do shit, lol


[10-Aug-20 02:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, unfortunately


[10-Aug-20 02:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m still suggesting knives though, it doesnt have to be congress weilding them


[10-Aug-20 02:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we just give knives to fed up aides and see what comes of it


[10-Aug-20 04:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511286-police-declare-another-riot-in-portland-as-protesters-march-to-union

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Police declare another riot in Portland as protesters march to unio...
Portland police declared another riot in the Oregon city on Sunday night after fireworks were thrown injuring two officers during demonstrations around the Portland Police Association office.
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[10-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/g7R10lqzzKg

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[10-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This is what years of people going "experts bad media bad" to people does.


[10-Aug-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[10-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Phelan#7647
Portland should stop rioting


[10-Aug-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
better question, were they rioters or instigators who blended into the crowd to spark chaos?


[10-Aug-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s kind of hard to tell these days


[10-Aug-20 05:16 PM] RYDE#8862
I believe it is easier to spark some chaos than do a peaceful protests.


[10-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, so what are they demanding now? The feds left, so the practical issue is solved. So... What is it right now? Defund the entire police? :D


[10-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Opponent#3498
this is something that's not really mentioned much. The actual demands.


[10-Aug-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
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[10-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Speaking of this, feet of people who never worn shoes are pretty... interesting.
They look huge.

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[10-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
which is which?


[10-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Left one is "natural" one.


[10-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[10-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have seen another, where chinese girls wear kids size all their life. Nightmare fuel.


[10-Aug-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Masks are not natural and if the virus was actually dangerous we'd have naturally evolved to fight it"
Just... what the fuck. People believe this?


[10-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Just give them a couple of hundreds years.


[10-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Opponent#3498
anything at all makes sense if you look at it the right way. People genuinely believe the flat earth thing, which is provably wrong, so long as you have dosh for round-the-world airplane trip


[10-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, but then you can say the sensors are all tampered with. Right. Never mind.


[10-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
earth is flat everyone knows that


[10-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, my bad.


[10-Aug-20 06:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
except this dude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno#Imprisonment,_trial_and_execution,_1593%E2%80%931600

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Giordano Bruno (, Italian: [dʒorˈdaːno ˈbruːno]; Latin: Iordanus Brunus Nolanus; born Filippo Bruno, January or February 1548 – 17 February 1600) was an Italian Dominican friar, philosopher, mathematician, poet, cosmological theorist, and Hermetic occultist. He is known for hi...
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[10-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
fuck'em right


[10-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:trixdisgust: 🔥


[10-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
The moral thing to do is to deface Mount Rushmore to remove the affront to the natives of plastering the faces of our leaders over a sacred rokk on their land.

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[10-Aug-20 07:41 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
isn't it already too late, they dinamited the shit out of the cliff


[10-Aug-20 07:42 PM] Nebbie#8545
There are two basic options: Dynamite more, or find a way to add material that looks natural.


[10-Aug-20 08:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude everything is sacred for natives


[10-Aug-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
@Smug Trixie im just waiting for space tourism to be a thing so some nut will try to break the glass to "see the truth" & end up on news


[10-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
it is not just the "glass" tho


[10-Aug-20 08:04 PM] jlun2#8758
rip 100m$ space ship tho


[10-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean they can just evacuate the airlock.


[10-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
which is a complex procedure too


[10-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
cause I really don't think the panels on the transport spaceships would allow for breaking by hand


[10-Aug-20 08:05 PM] jlun2#8758
smuggle gun & hammer ofc


[10-Aug-20 08:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
they are built to withstand particles orbiting the earth orbit iirc


[10-Aug-20 08:06 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
little pieces of junk flying at several kms per second


[10-Aug-20 08:07 PM] jlun2#8758
all the other ppl inside will be scared as hell going "wtf"


[10-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
for plane trips there are no testing, no training, there are also no free alcohol on space flights


[10-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
so it is kind of implausible


[10-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511277-willie-brown-kamala-harris-should-politely-decline-any-offer-to-be-bidens

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Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown (D) advised Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) to "politely decline" any offer to be presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s running mate.
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[10-Aug-20 08:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
why would she ever do that?


[10-Aug-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
what insane world is this


[10-Aug-20 08:28 PM] byte[]#2610
how about: biden just doesn't offer her the fucking job, because she's a piece of shit

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[10-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
that'd be too sane.


[10-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's worried more shit would come out about their relationship.


[10-Aug-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511331-trump-time-for-portland-to-bring-in-national-guard

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Trump: Time for Portland to bring in National Guard
PORTLAND, Ore. — President Trump on Monday suggested Oregon authorities call in the National Guard in response to sustained protests here, claiming state officials were “putting people’s lives at risk” by failing to do so.
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[10-Aug-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because that worked so well with the feds :hopeless:


[10-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Opponent#3498
but really though, what are their actual demands?


[10-Aug-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically for the police to stop being homicidal psychopaths, and for more funding to go into social services that arent the police


[10-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
How one stops being a psycho :twismug:


[10-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Sounds unreasonable to me.


[10-Aug-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the repeal of the qualified immunity doctrine and for the police union to lose the power it has

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[10-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, that's the strategic stuff. What are they demanding be done _right now_ in order to disperse? Anything?


[10-Aug-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tend to disperse int heir own time if the police dont agitate them


[10-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
So they just camp around for fun?


[10-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Opponent#3498
sounds like spring of '15 :wheeze:


[10-Aug-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some protestors want the police abolished and replaced with a mroe structured orderly program


[10-Aug-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2020/07/20/protester-demands-police-policy-change-chokehold-ban/5357153002/

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We looked at protester demands from across the nation and compared ...
Protesters have made their demands clear, and cities are starting to respond. But is it enough?
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[10-Aug-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a large potluck of demands stemming from the police being violent psychopaths with no consequences for their actions and also eating up msot of a cities funding


[10-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
that's july 25th


[10-Aug-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the same protest


[10-Aug-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Opponent, do keep in mind that these protests started *before* the feds or the national guard got involved. The local police have been a problem for ages


[10-Aug-20 09:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the demands havent changed, i;m assuming "Keept the feds out of it" has been added though


[10-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, but, I was wondering if anything has changed. And, yeah, I know Wingbeat. Was curious on the developments.


[10-Aug-20 09:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And by "local" I mean "local police forces across the entire nation"


[10-Aug-20 09:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Even if portland specifically caters to every demand the protesters are making, and I do mean *every* one of them, I doubt it would make those protesters shut up and go home


[10-Aug-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
july also only just ended so that article is still relevent enough


[10-Aug-20 09:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's worth noting, btw, that more often than not there's been a geographic separation between the protesters demanding justice for Floyd and Taylor etc. and the rioters smashing stuff


[10-Aug-20 09:21 PM] Opponent#3498
mkay, that answers my question then, ty.


[10-Aug-20 09:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and even before this, Oregon was a hotbed of clashes between the very blue urban areas and the podunk rest of the state, with groups like the Proud Boys storming in literally looking for trouble


[10-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Opponent#3498
nice name. Alt-right whites?


[10-Aug-20 09:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
how ever could you tell


[10-Aug-20 09:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Though they claim that they're not alt-right anymore and that they're just trying to uphold "western values," you see


[10-Aug-20 09:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and the guy who founded the group is playing the ultimate poe's law card - he started it as a joke, see, he doesn't *really* think (white) men are under siege and other white genocide conspiracy theory nonsense


[10-Aug-20 09:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is literally a no girls allowed club regardless


[10-Aug-20 09:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you may remember them from their organization of and armed presence at the Unite the Right rally


[10-Aug-20 09:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, no women are allowed in those groups?


[10-Aug-20 09:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
this one specifically


[10-Aug-20 09:28 PM] Nebbie#8545
'just trying to uphold "western values"'


[10-Aug-20 09:29 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah. You know. Western values.

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[10-Aug-20 09:29 PM] Nebbie#8545
Anyone who *doesn't* know this means "enforce racism" at this point is ignorant.


[10-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Something odd that I've seen from the right recently is saying that Africa isn't so bad


[10-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
If people are actually upholding values like separation of church and state, or freedom of religion, actually says so.


[10-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
People hide behind the broad idea of "western values" when they want to mean "keep your area white-controlled like it used to be".


[10-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And not like Ian Smith worshipping, saying that states like Rwanda and Gabon and Ghana etc have really well functioning countries


[10-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
Ethnostates.


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Rwanda


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
They want to go with "everyone in their own bubble" now that they realize saying "not like those African shitholes" will lose them support.


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Especially now that China is investing.


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
Its, these people don't know.


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>ETHNOSTATE


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
All they know about Rwanda is it had a genocide.


[10-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Nebbie#8545
That makes it "based" in their opinion.


[10-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Nebbie#8545
As far as they're concerned, the genocide made it an ethnostate, the end, 10/10.


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Also, to them


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
All Africans are the same etc.


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
At best they'll recognize different countries.


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
They won't recognize different tribes.


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ever see Hotel Rwanda?


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Itsthinking#8251
There's a line in there about that.


[10-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
All those in a country the same religion, language, skin color, and nationality? They think it's an ethnostate.


[10-Aug-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, these are people who literally don't understand the differences between Florida and Idaho.


[10-Aug-20 09:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
To them as long as people are white, christian, english-speaking, and want to lynch blakks, they're the same.


[10-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Nebbie#8545
And on language, as far as they're concerned, if everyone knows English, good enuff.


[10-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Why no-one is discussing what happens right now in Belarus?


[10-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
what's there to discuss? Bat'ka is their lifetime ruler, much like Putin.


[10-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrpE3KsAdHA

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Belarus election: Riot police clash with protesters as President Lu...
Phalanxes of Belarusian police in full riot gear violently dispersed thousands of demonstrators who poured into the streets to challenge the early count from Sunday's presidential election indicating the longtime authoritarian leader won a sixth term by a landslide.

Hundreds ...
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[10-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, well, they'll jail some thousands and it'll die down as usual


[10-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
not like this is the first time there's unrest there.


[10-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
then again, I was shocked our own protests in '15 got any traction, CIA backing or not


[10-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/08/10/belarus-police-fire-rubber-bullets-tear-gas-on-protesters-a71105

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Riot police fired the tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful protesters to break up the second night of protests against the presidential election.
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[10-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I think its not fair when people just ignore things around the world


[10-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the same as people going 'roflmao Odessa 'vital port''


[10-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, suprisingly vital for the region. But unless it's Old West or Middle East, nobody really cares.


[10-Aug-20 10:33 PM] Nebbie#8545
Eastern Europe is just a bit too hopeless right now.


[10-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Nebbie#8545
It feels like this isn't even a change as a result.


[10-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
right cause US politics is so promising,they gonna listen to protestors and stop racism right


[10-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
white on white conflicts are lame :downvote:

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[10-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
lamestream would be the term


[10-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
other than that, people are used to corruption in russia and their friendos


[10-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I imagine a lot of people don't even know Bielorussia is a separate country and not, like, a province or geographic region


[10-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
*a lot of Americans


[10-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think people in, like, Germany care much more :P


[10-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
or care to distinguish.


[10-Aug-20 10:40 PM] wren#0114
what do you want us to do


[10-Aug-20 10:40 PM] wren#0114
liberate it?

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[10-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But they don't speak English in What.


[10-Aug-20 11:10 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Canada


[11-Aug-20 12:03 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/DavidNakamura/status/1292941971544309761
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A man who appeared to be Secret Service just escorted Trump out of the WH briefing room just minutes into his briefing.
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BREAKING: we’ve just been locked in the briefing room and Secret Service moves POTUS back into West Wing. We’re on lockdown
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Camera crews and producers moved off Pebble Beach. Reports of shots fired. This is all developing
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[11-Aug-20 12:03 AM] ononim#8141
Okay
this is Epic


[11-Aug-20 12:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/TocRadio/status/1292944144252502017

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NEW: Trump confirms there was a “shooting outside the White House” — “somebody’s been taken to the hospital...” Trump says it’s seems like Secret Service shot the “suspect.” “We’ll have details for you in a little while
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[11-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is over, he's back


[11-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US #1 healthiest country in the world, no country's handling the china virus better than the US, etc.


[11-Aug-20 12:11 AM] ononim#8141
For a second I really thought we are at the stage when a purge is being live tweeted


[11-Aug-20 12:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, at no point in those 3 tweets did it sound like anything more than the typical mama-bear response to a single lunatic who climbed on top of a fence or something


[11-Aug-20 12:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nah, some people do actually want to just murder Trump


[11-Aug-20 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
This is true. But until we see a copycat within the next 48 hours I don't think we're quite at "purge" levels yet


[11-Aug-20 12:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There was a case back in a 2016 campaign rally -- i'm honestly surprised Trump himself isn't targeted more, what with being such a hated figure


[11-Aug-20 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what *will* happen is that Trump's words immediately following his return will be on the news tonight. For the right, a triumphant victory; for the left, a dissonant response


[11-Aug-20 12:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Given that currently, Trump is the source of information on the suspect being shot, I'm going to assume no one's been killed


[11-Aug-20 12:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that this is like the thelma and louise couple who, running from the cops for some minor thing, wound up bypassing several security checkpoints at mar-a-lago a while back. Remember that one?


[11-Aug-20 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(it also turned out that one of the ladies involved wasn't actually an accomplice, either)


[11-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will be a while before we know what happened


[11-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could've just been a road rage incident nearby


[11-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like DC is anywhere near the safest city in the country


[11-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
man I can't wait for people to bitch about the ""extreame left""  and start blaming people like bill gates for the shooting


[11-Aug-20 12:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
We know anything more about the gas leak explosion in B-more today?


[11-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
I thought Manhattan was safe until a guy literally drove his car on the sidewalk and ran over like two people last time I was staying there


[11-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
NYC has so many people that there's bound to be at least a dozen violent unstable people within 100m of you at all times


[11-Aug-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/08/10/admitted-kkk-leader-who-drove-through-crowd-protesters-found-guilty-multiple-charges/

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[11-Aug-20 12:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
...but not the hate crime charges.

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[11-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[11-Aug-20 12:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If my hazy interpretation of virginia state law here makes any sense (which it doesn't, the wording seems to pretty clearly indicate to me that this falls under the definition of a hate crime), I'm guessing they dropped the hate crime charges because someone successfully argued that the protest he drove through was politically motivated, not racially - despite the protest being about racial equality and justice, and the governor of the state acknowledging such

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[11-Aug-20 12:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
welcome to "jim crow law is alive and well"


[11-Aug-20 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
where a perfectly sensible hate crime law in spirit can be wholly bypassed in letter


[11-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Well they don't believe in "spirits". They believe in God. :twismug:


[11-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Opponent#3498
oh they do believe in "spirits". The high proof bottled ones :P

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[11-Aug-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
funny enough so do I


[11-Aug-20 01:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Noooo but spirits are scary and they'll materialize in ectoplasm in front of your bed at night if you're not careful enough and stare at you until you scream in fear


[11-Aug-20 02:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[11-Aug-20 02:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
America has the world's best healthcare system, because they cured the most corona cases in the world

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[11-Aug-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
"sex is anti-people"


[11-Aug-20 02:28 AM] byte[]#2610
epic smoothbrain take, so absurd it makes me think it's a falseflag


[11-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably is


[11-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter is teeming with "fake" accounts propped up to make absurd takes so they can be capped/retweeted by larger accounts


[11-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So, so many made a couple of weeks before their "big moment in the spotlight" that are just retweets or generic takes, then some really stupid post that "blows up", followed by a few completely absurd posts for a week, then dead


[11-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a super easy, super effective way of getting people to believe "the others" are all insane and stupid


[11-Aug-20 02:35 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
if sex is anti-Maoism, why is the population of China doubled in Mao's time


[11-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Silent protest.

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[11-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:smugcaddy:


[11-Aug-20 02:40 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Protest against communism by having sex without condom

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[11-Aug-20 02:42 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:nut:


[11-Aug-20 02:42 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Don't they get fined now?


[11-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Don’t they get shot now


[11-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Crow#5457
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The secret to becoming a billionaire is hard work
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[11-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
He would be super rich in 1900's


[11-Aug-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
while I agree with the sentiment, one of the things that I think hurts this argument is that if jeff bezos sold all his stock tomorrow, he could not get out US$180B from the market


[11-Aug-20 02:58 AM] byte[]#2610
that simply does not exist in the money supply; he is _absurdly_ wealthy, but that valuation is largely tied up in speculation on the value of his property


[11-Aug-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/joe-walsh-reveals-the-16-seconds-on-fox-news-he-knew-it-was-worth-losing-everything-by-taking-on-trump

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Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) was reassured in his decision to take on Donald Trump after watching a clip of Fox News that was posted to Twitter. In the clip, Tucker Carlson is interviewing Glenn Beck. “I’m living in an Alice in Wonderland world,” Beck said. “Where, you know, I...
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[11-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Stocks are curious things.


[11-Aug-20 02:58 AM] illumnious#7938
stonks


[11-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
It does work with free plastic bags.
If people do not pay for them, they start hoarding them and take more than they really need to carry groceries.


[11-Aug-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I have never seen this happen ever


[11-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Happens here, where I live.


[11-Aug-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
and do keep in mind, I live in plastic bag central, where they are given away for free as a commodity


[11-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Maybe depends on the mentality.


[11-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
I've never seen anyone hoard bags in the US before


[11-Aug-20 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I do actually have a big pile of plastic bags hoarded in a box in my office, but i don’t know how to donate them


[11-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Crow#5457
maybe save what they get from shopping, but never just outright take what they don't need to carry their groceries


[11-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
But


[11-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Feminism and diversity are ruining games


[11-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
they may make stories feel shoehorned if done improperly, but that has literally no effect on the gameplay mechanics


[11-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
>all gamers think

Opinion discarded :lul:


[11-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But but but sjw bad!!!!!"


[11-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Why you always strawmanning so desperately, Warc?


[11-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ReseteraTakes/status/1283489543115636738

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[11-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Crow#5457
I'm not sure if it's hilarious or sad that they can't see how dystopic this is


[11-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I want my Suede Denim Secret Police already


[11-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Their description gives me ussr vibes.


[11-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Especially same shitty clothes part.


[11-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
When you can't tell whether to take your Soma or drink your Victory Gin


[11-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sorry had to memoryhole the typo, superdoubleplusungood word right there


[11-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Stoopedhooy it isn't straw maning when ever sense gone home was releaced all we heard for years and years was the same old sjw bad shit


[11-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
No one is telling this here


[11-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Gone homo


[11-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Except for crow when he posted that comment


[11-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know the one that asks how Gamers tm where lost to the right


[11-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845

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[11-Aug-20 04:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah there reasons where "dumb feminsent lady said video games = male fantcy"


[11-Aug-20 04:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman my male fantasy of paying a fictional raccoon landlord :twiright:


[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And oh god how many youtube videos did you see with that one proester face in the thumb nail


[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] jlun2#8758
?


[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
My male fantasy of Majima


[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
My male gamer fantasy is to gtfo from parents and live alone


[11-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
For years its been "sjw bad" this "sjw bad" that


[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Stoopedhooy#7845
Ok sjw


[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
who


[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
animal crossing is my gamer fantasy


[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just let me own a house with decent pay set up


[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/322/700/9c3.png

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[11-Aug-20 04:18 AM] jlun2#8758
never seen them before


[11-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Itsthinking yay romans


[11-Aug-20 04:19 AM] jlun2#8758

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[11-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But yeah I'm sick to death of it.


[11-Aug-20 04:20 AM] jlun2#8758
pic of male fantasy


[11-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fucking gamergate bullshit has morons on both sides but mostly the anti sjw side


[11-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And yes, video games are not the male fantasy.


[11-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
However that doesn't excuse all the shit that has been said for years.


[11-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Synfag#9241
New York's elementary school corriculum is looking great.

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[11-Aug-20 04:22 AM] jlun2#8758
:siren: 🎣 tho


[11-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Everyone has the right to be happy no mater what they beleave" woah man your right @Synfag look at that horrible sick nosense there teaching kids. The right to be happy... :twismug:


[11-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Synfag#9241

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[11-Aug-20 04:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-lebanon-security-blast-documents-excl-idUSKCN2562L7

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[11-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Better version of globalism than I've heard tbh


[11-Aug-20 04:25 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🎣


[11-Aug-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile our president is now trying to force college football to happen


[11-Aug-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1292886763690745859

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[11-Aug-20 04:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
probably because stocks or some shit


[11-Aug-20 04:32 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Don Madman!


[11-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) they probably warned him for like 35 times for the past 3 years


[11-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
right now they're engaging in major scapegoating :D Time to dig any and all exonerating evidence


[11-Aug-20 04:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
wtf is trump shitposting


[11-Aug-20 04:42 AM] jlun2#8758
play college EA FIFA 2021


[11-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
also yeah, @Synfag 🎣 supreme. Source pl0x.


[11-Aug-20 04:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Can't he even post anything not this meaningless, like communism propagandas or furry porns?


[11-Aug-20 04:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he wants his gladiatorial matches, and he wants them now regardless of the state of affairs. The roman emperor demands entertainment!

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[11-Aug-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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Are you not entertained?
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[11-Aug-20 05:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[11-Aug-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511393-harris-favored-as-biden-edges-closer-to-vp-pick

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Harris favored as Biden edges closer to VP pick
Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden is poised to make his vice presidential pick, a key strategic decision with big implications for his campaign and his presidency if he wins the White House.
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[11-Aug-20 05:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck Harris


[11-Aug-20 05:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
for better or worse, it seems like there's an entire committee working tirelessly to influence the decision


[11-Aug-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which means it won't be decided via dart board, but via ouija board

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[11-Aug-20 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
of the people pictured in that photo op, Bass is probably my personal favorite but (ignoring the political chessmove of "electability") I'd be more or less okay with any of these, except Whitmer. Although Harris is only one tier higher on that list and Warren's trying to eke out her spot too


[11-Aug-20 05:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
taking "electability" into account, uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhh


[11-Aug-20 05:24 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
A month ago: We must open the schools, the infection rate of children is very low!
Now: We must keep the schools open, the death rate of children is very low!


[11-Aug-20 05:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Of course, we can't reduce the death rate by reducing the numerator, but we can reduce it by increasing the denominator


[11-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bass is the best choice, but she made the Cuba Mistake.


[11-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Never say anything good about Cuba as a Democrat unless you're president or vice president.


[11-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't know why you'd pick Harris as anything but your AG, but okay.


[11-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Warren is a stupid decision to make because if Biden wins it fucks up Senate majority chances.


[11-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Can’t have child deaths if all the children are dead


[11-Aug-20 05:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
ignoring florida which seems like it's gonna get suppressed anyhow, just how important is that "cuba mistake" for voters in 2020?


[11-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's enough when Bernie did it that it was basically the last straw for all of the other candidates to kill Bernie's campaign in 2020 so


[11-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kill Bernie


[11-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/millennials-covid-financial-crisis-fall-behind-jobless-11596811470

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The economic fallout of the Covid pandemic has been harder on millennials, who are already indebted and a step behind on the career ladder from the last financial crisis. This second pummeling could keep them from accruing the wealth of older generations.
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[11-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
Intentional AMP link to bypass WSJ paywall


[11-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
What would boomers say about this


[11-Aug-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
"get a job, lazy"


[11-Aug-20 06:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Go to college and learn a trade! It's what i did when i was your age. Young people just don;t want to work these days!""


[11-Aug-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
> If history has taught me anything its that younger people with zero to lose and feel theyve been left out is [a recipe for revolution]


[11-Aug-20 06:14 AM] byte[]#2610
a big win for workers https://www.axios.com/california-judge-orders-uber-lyft-to-reclassify-drivers-as-employees-985ac492-6015-4324-827b-6d27945fe4b5.html

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California judge orders Uber, Lyft to reclassify drivers as employees
The companies have 10 days to appeal the decision before it goes into effect.
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[11-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
it'll get dragged out for years


[11-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yes, better than nothing


[11-Aug-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
It's against the law in california


[11-Aug-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
so this could result in criminal charges after this suit is over


[11-Aug-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
also, from what I'm reading, it's illegal federally too, but GOP ratfuckery has let it go relatively unenforced:
> A lot of this stuff was already illegal under federal law, just unenforced due to decades of Congress defunding the IRS. Under federal law, you cannot be considered a contractor unless you choose your own place to complete your work and set your own hours. Some studies have estimated as many as 3.4 to 6 million workers in the US are illegally classified as independent contractors, up to 4% of the American workforce. If people are aware of any instances of tax fraud like this, you can tip off the IRS and receive a portion of the fine, granted only if they have the resources to investigate.


[11-Aug-20 06:21 AM] jlun2#8758
sell uber stocks
is gig economy even sustainable?


[11-Aug-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
no


[11-Aug-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
it was supposed to be just a thing you could do to earn money on the side


[11-Aug-20 06:30 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's the sole income source for a lot of millenial and gen z now because they can't get hired _anywhere else_


[11-Aug-20 06:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it seems to me like it was never intended to be that


[11-Aug-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Similar situation for people who are past retirement age but have no retirement savings and are still capable of piloting a vehicle, I've seen a lot of those around here


[11-Aug-20 06:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It went from "monetize your downtime" to "hey guys these schmukks will work without any obligations to the employer, like slaves you don't need to house or feed!"


[11-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to capitalism.


[11-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Opponent#3498
btw if these people are considered employees now, post-retirement folks are out arent they?


[11-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
All "retirement" means is you collect social security.


[11-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can still work after it.


[11-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're just expected not to.


[11-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Opponent#3498
right, so it's not mandatory by law. Okay.


[11-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember, many states in the US are "right to work"


[11-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
as in the law says employers can fire you at any time, you can walk out any time to quit, and NOTHING can make it illegal to work


[11-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And then Republicans say "just get a job you lazy ass" and destroy welfare and send all the jobs in your area somewhere else.


[11-Aug-20 06:52 AM] jlun2#8758
then they get voted again to do this 4 more years


[11-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
By retired people who don't need to work.


[11-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I know people who are libertarians who basically are against hobbies or downtime at all.


[11-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a mix of people who think everything is about a "hustle" and those who think every hobby but complaining about politics on social media for money is degenerate


[11-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The only acceptable uses of your time outside work are pyramid schemes or begging for Patreon pledges for your hot takes.


[11-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anything else, you're wasting time


[11-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robber baron ideology.


[11-Aug-20 07:10 AM] jlun2#8758
robot overlords when


[11-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't robber barons adhere to the "Gospel of Wealth" where you had to donate money to not feel bad about being rich


[11-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is just being obsessed with clout


[11-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also "right to work" is a neologism explicitly designed to make unions and unionizing sound bad


[11-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's on the same level as "pro life"


[11-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Pro wife


[11-Aug-20 07:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Wasn't right to work supposed to ban mandatory union fees?


[11-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which completely makes a union useless


[11-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not fees, membership


[11-Aug-20 07:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
Well, I support unions as a concept, but they shouldn't be mandatory.


[11-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just pay your fair share and opt out of political stuff if you don't want to support that


[11-Aug-20 07:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
Still shouldn't be mandatory, imo.


[11-Aug-20 07:28 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/u-s-health-officials-are-quitting-or-getting-fired-amid-outbreak-1.5058649

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Vilified, threatened with violence and in some cases suffering from burnout, dozens of state and local public health leaders around the U.S. have resigned or have been fired amid the coronavirus outbreak, a testament to how politically combustible masks, lockdowns and infectio...
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[11-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Aug-20 09:18 AM] Synfag#9241
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[11-Aug-20 09:19 AM] Synfag#9241
funny how he went from 2017,2018, 2019 all the way to 2020


[11-Aug-20 10:27 AM] Crow#5457
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[11-Aug-20 10:29 AM] wren#0114
kek


[11-Aug-20 10:29 AM] wren#0114
roman numeral gang


[11-Aug-20 10:49 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
We got a vaccine y'all! But it's from Russia so I don't know...


[11-Aug-20 10:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
And yes I watch CNN, my cable package doesn't have that much cable news channels for variety. So I'm stuck here.

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[11-Aug-20 10:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There've been several viable vaccines already made, 3 in the US afaik


[11-Aug-20 10:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The big thing is getting them tested properly, don't want to inject several million people with something that gives them supercancer three months later


[11-Aug-20 10:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or kills people with some genetic condition only 0.5% of the population has


[11-Aug-20 11:03 AM] Crow#5457
there's only one that's made it into final trials that seems likely to make it to mass production atm


[11-Aug-20 11:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/10/trump-1918-spanish-flu-probably-ended-wwii-which-happened-two-decades-apart/3340770001/

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Trump erroneously says 1918 Spanish Flu 'probably ended' WWII, whic...
"The closest thing is in 1917, they say, the great pandemic. It certainly was a terrible thing where they lost anywhere from 50 to 100 million people, probably ended the Second World War," Trump said. "All the soldiers were sick. That was a terrible situation."
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[11-Aug-20 11:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Damn i thought it's ended by America's nukes


[11-Aug-20 11:24 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
HE LIES!!!

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[11-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Opponent#3498
you must be new here :wheeze:


[11-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Synfag#9241
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I looked to see why Rowan Atkinson is trending and it’s the usual. A comedian comes out in favour of free speech and is called ’problematic’. Forget the fact his career has been spent lampooning racists and fascism, that’s an inconvenient fact. He’s toxic now. Fuck off, Twitt...
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[11-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Synfag#9241
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The Finger - Mr. Bean
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[11-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, for some reason I think _this guy_ doesn't much care about Twitter's opinion of the day.


[11-Aug-20 01:23 PM] ononim#8141

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[11-Aug-20 01:24 PM] ononim#8141
After yesterday's protests in Belarus


[11-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so sad Belarus died :sad:


[11-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are casualties?


[11-Aug-20 02:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-wants-to-invite-putin-to-the-next-g7-meeting-2020-8

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Trump says he wants to invite Putin to the next G7 meeting despite ...
President Trump said he "certainly would invite" Russian President Putin to the next G7 meeting despite Russia being banned in 2014.
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[11-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He just wanna infect him with covid 19


[11-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Smart move mr.Trump


[11-Aug-20 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-fauci-question-safety-2020-8

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Fauci has questioned whether Russia's coronavirus vaccine is safe a...
President Vladimir Putin announced that Russia had approved a COVID-19 vaccine on Tuesday. Dr. Anthony Fauci spoke of his concerns on July 31.


[11-Aug-20 03:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Fauci has questioned whether Russia's coronavirus vaccine is safe amid concerns nations are cutting corners to win the vaccine race


[11-Aug-20 03:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia would never cut corners to try to win a race


[11-Aug-20 03:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why the N1 rocket is the most successful in history

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[11-Aug-20 03:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Russia would never cut corners to try to win a race
@Itsthinking  that might be because they have no corners to cut at all


[11-Aug-20 03:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:twismug:


[11-Aug-20 03:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Russia would never cut corners to try to win a race
@Itsthinking 
Orly?


[11-Aug-20 03:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://newsvoice.com/i/4877501

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Russia unveils first COVID-19 vaccine
Russia registered world’s first Covid-19 vaccine, marking a milestone in the global race to find a vaccine against Covid-19, but raising safety concerns in the West over accelerated clinical evaluations. Scientists at the Moscow-based Gamaleya Institute have employed military ...
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[11-Aug-20 03:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Did no one read the second line I wrote


[11-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Russia cut it, sorry

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[11-Aug-20 04:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Itsthinking I did. USSR and Russian Federation are different entities.


[11-Aug-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/10/us-postal-service-officials-push-proposal-to-nearly-triple-cost-of-sending-mail-in-ballots-report/

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USPS proposal would nearly triple cost of sending mail ballots: report
Sen. Elizabeth Warren called the proposal an attempt to “sabotage” the USPS ahead of upcoming elections
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[11-Aug-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> A U.S. Postal Service (USPS) panel advanced a proposal that would increase states' postage cost for mail-in ballots from 20 cents to 55 cents per ballot, according to a report from The Capitol Forum.
> 
> States pay the 20-cent marketing mail rate when sending mail-in ballots to voters, but the new proposal advanced by the executive leadership team would reportedly require them to pay the standard first-class mail rate of 55 cents.


[11-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Poll tax.


[11-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAU6q3ER7M

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CBS Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAU6q3ER7M
Merchants Respond To Looting, Unrest
CBS 2's Jeremy Ross reports on what Chicago merchants are saying about rebuilding, if they can.
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[11-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/lErUIgOgO30

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Chicago PD Superintendent Blows Up the Media's Narrative on Violent...
Chicago PD's Superintendent blew up the Media's narrative on the violent riots, saying cops are facing consequences while rioters and looters and getting off scot-free. WATCH Trump DESTROY reporter complaining about masks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0vIKseo9qA

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[11-Aug-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://bgr.com/2020/08/10/cdc-face-mask-guidelines-coronavirus-transmission-no-vents/

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Chris Smith
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CDC revises face mask guidelines, says you should avoid this type o...
The CDC made a big change to its face masks guidelines last week, advising people to avoid respirators that have exhalation valves or vents. ”Masks with one-way valves or vents allow exhaled air to…
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[11-Aug-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a terrible picture for this article


[11-Aug-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they mean this type of mask

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[11-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, those are great for the wearer


[11-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But not for everyone else


[11-Aug-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/bill-gates-donate-150-million-to-create-a-3-coronavirus-vaccine/

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Bill Gates Donate $150 Million To Create A $3 Coronavirus Vaccine -...
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is doing its part to help combat the lingering coronavirus pan
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[11-Aug-20 04:52 PM] illumnious#7938
:Windows:


[11-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I hope I would not need to go back for updates?


[11-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Is it 3 million per dose?


[11-Aug-20 04:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Maybe


[11-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
did discord made a "karen" filter or something, can't upload or have this one showing embeds
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[11-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So are you saying you're complaining and want to speak to the manager

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[11-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
:trixdisgust:


[11-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
$3 per dose


[11-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thanks doc


[11-Aug-20 05:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[11-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ben Shapiro OWNS HIMSELF with FACTS AND LOGIC (sjw libtards destroyed #maga)


[11-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Twilight#0511

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[11-Aug-20 05:59 PM] wren#0114
ok millenial


[11-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
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[11-Aug-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-20 06:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my brain sprained it;s ankle while reading this


[11-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Stoopedhooy#7845
At least he said "probably"


[11-Aug-20 06:40 PM] wren#0114
he was talking about ww1


[11-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No,this text clearly says WW2


[11-Aug-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not what he meant, it;s how he said it


[11-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No single isolated quote says much, since people do sometimes misspeak, but it's just that he keeps making mistakes like this all the time.


[11-Aug-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the way he says things physically hurts to listen to or read


[11-Aug-20 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
even if he meant WWI he would still be wrong. he's just making shit up to please his ego


[11-Aug-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
makes him feel smart when he tries to connect the dots mentally


[11-Aug-20 06:42 PM] wren#0114
he's factually correct about spanish flu in that year period tho


[11-Aug-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
yes


[11-Aug-20 06:43 PM] wren#0114
"probably ended ww2", idk about that but that's just opinion statement

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[11-Aug-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
when you are the president opinion statements have consequences


[11-Aug-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
as we saw when people started stockpiling fish tank cleaners based on a recommendation by the president

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[11-Aug-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
or when they started buying blacklights and lysol after _that_ incident


[11-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right.

Like, Joe Nobody promoting antivaxer homeopathic remedies is bad, but he doesn't have the audience Trump does.


[11-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When the president rejects accredited doctors and promotes the demon semen lady, he's endangering the people who trust him implicitly.


[11-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...And the people who don't, since teachers and kids have to go back to school largely due to him pressuring schools to reopen earlier than doctors recommend.


[11-Aug-20 06:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several criminal trials have also been compromised because Trump weighed his opinion on them


[11-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, for sure. Trump has said and done things this term that are probably enough to get him into legal trouble, but the Republican senate doesn't care and keeps protecting him.

Trump is only as powerful as McConnell and his stooges allow him to be.


[11-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd just respect the honesty a lot more if they'd stop this farce of "opposing big government corruption" (which is clearly selective) and just openly said "we want to promote our policies at all costs even if it means turning a blind eye to the law sometimes."


[11-Aug-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.axios.com/trump-obama-resign-787b042d-0361-48f1-bba5-c97b05837331.html

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Trump claims he would have not called for Obama to resign over 160,...
But he called for Obama to resign in 2014 over Ebola.
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[11-Aug-20 06:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[11-Aug-20 06:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What if Trump isn't being hypocritical; he just genuinely can't remember what he said yesterday, let alone 6 years ago


[11-Aug-20 06:54 PM] byte[]#2610
then he probably shouldn't be the president?


[11-Aug-20 06:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://newsvoice.com/i/4877418

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An employee of BP’s Australian refinery who was fired last year for mocking his bosses online over pay negotiations using a Hitler meme has been awarded more than A$200,000 in compensation. Australia’s Fair Work Commission ruled that BP should pay Scott Tracey $177,325 in lost...
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[11-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yes that's definitely not something he should be


[11-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
good lord, i could live on that for 3 or 4 years

Who knew all I had to do was be a dipshit on the internet to get the easy money


[11-Aug-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/carmen-best-seattle-police-chief-resigns-city-council-votes-trim-department/

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[11-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Quickly to Australia


[11-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511495-yang-on-democratic-convention-i-kind-of-expected-to-speak

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Yang on Democratic convention: 'I kind of expected to speak'
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[11-Aug-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511498-trump-says-he-wants-nfl-to-play-unless-players-kneel

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Trump says he wants NFL to play, unless players kneel
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[11-Aug-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why football man no stand up for magic sky cloth? :trixdisgust:


[11-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess protesting against curbing freedom of speech doesn't apply when it's the president


[11-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Weird


[11-Aug-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/511507-border-wall-water-use-threatens-endangered-species

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[11-Aug-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
the fun never ends with the wall, does it.


[11-Aug-20 08:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
decades of fun!


[11-Aug-20 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
well I expect it to be swiftly abandoned if Trump is out, so at least the solution to it is easy.


[11-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'll be fully abandoned if Trump gets reelected as well


[11-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless he tries to remove term limits or something


[11-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The wall was always just a publicity stunt


[11-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
His supporters will retcon it as something they never literally believed would actually happen years from now, I'm sure. 

"We knew it was just a snappy campaign slogan, never actually expected a literal wall to be built"


[11-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They already did that mighty fast with "Mexico will pay for it", so yeah


[11-Aug-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/str4xyew2dg51.png

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[11-Aug-20 09:07 PM] jlun2#8758
@Dr. Mechano a decade later they all pretend they never elected trump


[11-Aug-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or will pretend Trumps era was the best era of america ever


[11-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like they do with Reagan now.


[11-Aug-20 09:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://imgur.com/gallery/iMO0oif

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The greatest comic ever
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[11-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[11-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Bastards took away 15 yo guy on party van without license plates in Belarus


[11-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The fact that the comic's full of positive comments and not a bunch of people calling the artist a snowflake may be a sign that the cultural tide has turned somewhat.


[11-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And another bastards attacked journalist

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[11-Aug-20 09:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
@Dr. Mechano  or that it's on imgur instead of twitter


[11-Aug-20 09:34 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder sometimes what do people expect when trying to 'protest' in an authoritarian state.


[11-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
you personally lose a few teeth and a few years of life and don't really achive much of anything


[11-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's the hope that you disrupt the status quo and inconvenience the people in charge *enough* that they make a few concessions to make you do less of that, honestly.

And that has happened a *little* with the BLM protests. Like, Colorado got rid of qualified immunity for cops and Louisville, Kentucky banned no-knock warrants but we're mostly seeing incremental changes at the local and state level. Nothing broad or uniform, which I feel like we're going to need.


[11-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
US isn't really authoritarian though. There are always factions benefitting from the unrest that might be willing to lend support.


[11-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Opponent#3498
here, the state prepared for just this kind of thing for it's entire existence as part of the Union and independantly


[11-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not authoritarian on paper but I think in practice it is a lot of the time.

Though yes, it's not nearly so overt as it is in - say - China.


[11-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I liked the touch with the grenade here. The guys have nothing on them that would be useful to capture. No firearms, just batons for intimidation and grenades when that fails :D They're under no illusion that people _will_ kill them if given a chance.


[11-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
unfortunately they didnt


[11-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
not this time.


[11-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
also they were using cellphone to communicate,what if theres gonna be no service or someone jam the signal


[11-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Opponent#3498
then they're out of luck I guess. Expendable much? Shoestring budget? Good point actually.


[11-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[11-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
OMON shooting guy with rubber bullets until he pass out


[11-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris officially picked as VP


[11-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Policeman attacks bikers who's compliant

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[11-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And another police brutality

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[11-Aug-20 10:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking why did it take so long when ppl kinda guessed it would be her anyways


[11-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Cognitive decline?


[11-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
if people are compliant, they're generally not afraid. You can't have that.


[11-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
what you want is uncertainty, hopelessness, 'no correct answers'.


[11-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
so there's every reason to punish compliance.


[11-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Opponent#3498
these people think the laws are worth the paper they're written on. They think they have _rights_. They think they can just _be_ out and about when there's ongoing threat to the last, best hope of the nation.


[11-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Opponent#3498
best to disabuse them of the notion.


[11-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or they take torches and pitchforks in hands and destroy this plague like Ukrainians did


[11-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
Ukraine had western agencies' support though. In organizing, financing.


[11-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is there any proofs?


[11-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
not reliable, no, given the amount of disinformation russian side poured in at the time and later literally nothing can be really taken at face value. But it's this thing again, who stood to benefit from it most? There were parallels drawn between the events there and Arab Springs playbook, the funds for the whole operation had to come from _somewhere_(something like 1m$ per day worth of expenses at the height of it), and it certainly wasn't any of the locals or Russia, even if all sides adapted quickly.


[11-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Opponent#3498
and so on, little things mostly.


[11-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
plus the big difference was, the government side was _really_ reluctant to make a move when they could. Remember, this whole thing started out of a generic student protest, which were a common thing in Kiev for the past like 15 years. A series of blunders and inaction later, it suddenly explodes.


[11-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yep,and thats exactly why belarus and russia is using extreme force on protestors


[11-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they all afraid ukrainian scenario


[11-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro


[11-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Instead of using torches and pitchforks, use augmented cement saws and molotovs


[11-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Opponent#3498
modern solutions to modern problems.


[11-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Opponent#3498
to my great shame I don't remember the timeline for international response to 'Revolution of Dignity', outside of usual local nonsence like Germany prohibiting broadcasts as 'inciting violence'. That could also help with understanding of 'who's and 'why's


[11-Aug-20 11:09 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1293163818282094594?s=21

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[11-Aug-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Truly, the pinnacle of economic recovery


[11-Aug-20 11:19 PM] byte[]#2610
you know, not employment or anything meaningful


[11-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What numbers? Pics or it didn't happen!


[11-Aug-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-men-insulted-biden-vowed-female-vp-72306125

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Trump: Some men insulted that Biden vowed to name female VP
President Donald Trump is criticizing his Democratic rival’s vice presidential selection process, saying some men are “insulted” by Joe Biden’s promise to select a woman as his running mate
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[11-Aug-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5ac8fff8bbe1c70479604e3ff62ecb10

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Biden selects California Sen. Kamala Harris as running mate
WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Joe Biden named California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate on Tuesday, making history by selecting the first Black woman to compete on a major party’s presidential...
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[11-Aug-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Gross


[11-Aug-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "Her record of accomplishment — fighting tooth and nail for what’s right — is why I’m choosing her," Biden said.
> 
> "There is no door Kamala won’t knock on, no stone she’ll leave unturned, if it means making life better — for the people. She will wake up every day — like I will — thinking about how to make life better for people. How to rebuild our country back better. How to make it more just. How to win the next fight in the battle for the soul of this nation."

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[11-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Phelan#7647
My timeline is just people saying how disappointed they are


[11-Aug-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1293251410633674753

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Remember Willie Horton? 

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[11-Aug-20 11:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
GOP denigrating random PoC criminals to further its own narrative? Must be tuesday


[11-Aug-20 11:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Remember when police drove one white supremacist mass shooter to a fast food to "talk his mind out"


[11-Aug-20 11:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I dont, what the fuck?


[11-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
Classic.


[11-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[11-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
bail fees are like "pay us money or we force you to lose your job".


[11-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Rich people can pay them and skip the country.


[11-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Poor people often confess to keep their job, even if they didn't do the crime.


[11-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is saying "if you get charged with murder, you should lose your job, Biden is a bad person for trying to give them the right to a fair trial".


[11-Aug-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
judges have the authority to deny bail for flight risks


[11-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Oh for sure.


[11-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
But they often don't for the rich.


[11-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
'woman stabbing a man', instant surge of Biden support :D And a 'would-be cop killer'... They picked the wrong people to display :wheeze:


[11-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And if a little money slides into that judge's account...nobody'll ever know.


[11-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
Bail is very clearly not a good system.


[11-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
There should be restrictions on people facing charges, but asking for collateral is a messy process that inherently fukks the poor.


[11-Aug-20 11:56 PM] byte[]#2610
I have an idea


[11-Aug-20 11:57 PM] byte[]#2610
In lieu of getting rid of most "minor offenses" (which is not a realistic goal), how about we change the offenses that get you detained so that it doesn't disproprtionately fuck poor people


[11-Aug-20 11:58 PM] byte[]#2610
(also, get rid of bullshit "court fees")


[11-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Get rid of most minor offenses.


[11-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
It is a very realistic goal.


[11-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
Remove almost everything drug-related from the books.


[11-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Nebbie#8545
There is no fukking reason for 80% of the crimes on the books to be on the books.


[11-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
US law is ridiculously, needlessly inflated.


[11-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Strict liability is wrong.


[11-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most of the way executive agencies process law is wrong.


[12-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get a default *mens rea* and work from what actually needs protection.


[12-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Start from "who is the victim" and work from there.


[12-Aug-20 12:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> In lieu of getting rid of most "minor offenses" (which is not a realistic goal), how about we change the offenses that get you detained so that it doesn't disproprtionately fuck poor people
@byte[]  well considering how this is all the work of the abusive bourgeoisie... how about something that the NSA might frown at?


[12-Aug-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:TRN:


[12-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also consider how hard victims are affected.


[12-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody needs life in jail for stealing paper clips.


[12-Aug-20 12:02 AM] byte[]#2610
or staples... what a story that was


[12-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
People absolutely need some time in jail if they're going around robbing people's retirement funds *en masse*.


[12-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Treascair#7785
What's this about life in jail for stealing paper clips or staples? I feel like that's a court case that will be both fascinating and enraging.


[12-Aug-20 12:06 AM] byte[]#2610
I misremembered the staples one


[12-Aug-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
no court case AFAIK, and it seems like it could be a creative writing exercise, but nonetheless...


[12-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Repeat offender laws.


[12-Aug-20 12:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/c834og/tifu_by_hiding_my_staple_addiction_and_making_my/

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[12-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
In some areas, there are laws where if you steal too many times, you get life in jail.


[12-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://didyouknowfacts.com/62-year-old-man-is-currently-38-years-into-a-life-sentence-for-stealing-9/

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[12-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/us/louisiana-supreme-court-trnd/index.html

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A Black Louisiana man will spend the rest of his life in prison for stealing hedge clippers, after the Louisiana Supreme Court denied his request to have his sentence overturned last week.
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[12-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
so ashamed of my state


[12-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, you get racist whites saying "WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE HARDENED CRIMINALS?"


[12-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then moderate whites go "Huh, it is kind of strange we put a guy in jail for 10 years 3 times in a row, after he stole a car for the third time...should just go life on these rare cases."


[12-Aug-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
> Johnson is the only female and Black person on the court. The rest of the justices are White men.
rip


[12-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racist white legislature writes a law that says 3rd time is life in jail for any theft (with some caveat about it being aggressive or whatever).


[12-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Racist white court puts a blakk man in jail for life for his third time getting mad and stealing a cookie.


[12-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moderate whites: "Wait...huh...how?"


[12-Aug-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
cops, prosecutor, and judge


[12-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nobody should be in jail except for those guilty of violent/dangerous crime.

*Every other crime* should have **zero** jail time. Hard drugs? You get rehab! Petty nonviolent theft? You get fines and community service! People like this don't need to be quarantined from the rest of society like the murderers and rapists do.


[12-Aug-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
all responsible


[12-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is that "systemic racism" people talk about @Treascair.


[12-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like freeze-dried racism written into the law.


[12-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just need to add racist water (the courts) and bam.


[12-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
You've got blakks in jail for life for petty theft.


[12-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whites? The cops will not press charges, or the prosecutor will refuse, or the judge will make an exception (law permitting).


[12-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah

If you forced the application of the penalties to be equal and uniform across the board, these stupid three-strike laws would be repealed in a heartbeat.


[12-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Systems must be set up so that you need damn good reasons to go hard on people.


[12-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise selectivity will be rampant.


[12-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Treascair#7785
> This is that "systemic racism" people talk about @Treascair.
@Nebbie 

That's not what I asked. I inquired for context. As in the legal case


[12-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well those articles are about two such cases of people put in jail for life over small thefts.


[12-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. That's not something that typically happens to white people.


[12-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Treascair#7785
Ah, I missed the links due to mobile discord being goofy. Apologies.


[12-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/american-rehab-chapter-8-shadow-workforce/

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American Rehab Chapter 8: Shadow Workforce | Reveal
For decades, work-based rehabs have spread across the country.  No one knows how many are out there, so we counted them ourselves.
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[12-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Crow#5457
tbh with kamala harris as biden's VP pick, I'm not sure biden will be able to win, kamala's basically kryptonite to anyone left of center


[12-Aug-20 12:36 AM] jlun2#8758
@Crow they rather choose trump?


[12-Aug-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
no, they'd rather not vote at all


[12-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
which is an implicit choice for trump, but more easily reconciled with their politics than voting for someone who's only slightly less evil


[12-Aug-20 12:37 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know what to tell them


[12-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Crow#5457
kamala harris would be a republican in 5 years if it weren't for this


[12-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Crow#5457
tbh biden should already be a republican, but he's too invested in the democratic party to switch


[12-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, Biden's pretty standard for the Democratic party - which is to say he's still right of center.

I don't think Harris is going to hurt Biden's chances that much.


[12-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris tried to keep a person in jail after it was revealed that a confession from them was fabricated.


[12-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even after a judge ordered the release.


[12-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not saying she's a good choice. She isn't.


[12-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's about as bad as supporting the system's problems gets.


[12-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is poison to anything close to BLM.


[12-Aug-20 12:45 AM] jlun2#8758
is there a twitter storm yet


[12-Aug-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
always


[12-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, electoral formula wise


[12-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
At this point if she has *any* sense she'll rebrand, start really overtly promoting BLM and police reform, and distance herself from her prior actions.

I'm not happy that this is who we're working with, but I don't think Biden's campaign is sunk from it.


[12-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden does not want a VP that appeals to Trump's base.


[12-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is the "moderate right" option.


[12-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
She doesn't gain Biden anything.


[12-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Twilight#0511
maybe just a choice to appease other influential politicians from the same party?


[12-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Bad idea also.


[12-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody influential is trying to run from Biden.


[12-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's also the whole fact that she isn't close to the "radical left" and the Trump campaign will attack her with that anyway, making it look dumb


[12-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
A VP needs to gain you voters you would not get by choosing a nobody.


[12-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden has moderates by the balls, even Republican ones.


[12-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He has the establishment too.


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Twilight#0511
and probably all those who just hate Trump for %reasons%?


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
All he needs in a VP, all he can hope to gain, is a token reformist who would say "we're willing to listen to Bernie sometimes maybe"


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many who hate Trump are on the right and will vote nobody.


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Twilight#0511
oO


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Restaurant: The dish isn't that spicy


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The dish:

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[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many others are on the left and are mad about no Bernie.


[12-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They've already started. Eric Trump is on Twitter calling Harris a radical leftist and I'm just like "stop threatening me with a good time"

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[12-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an accusation that makes no sense.


[12-Aug-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
IWTCIJB

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[12-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is a poor choice, it's gonna screw him at the convention.


[12-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Twilight#0511
so, result: two party systems are broken by design?


[12-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[12-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I wonder what this guy thinks about Harris given she's married to a white guy


[12-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/1276286676340559872

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https://twitter.com/Joshua_Luna/status/1276286676340559872
If you're POC & elect to partner with a white person, regardless of gender, you are burdened with the fact that your partner is racist by default & you will have to push them out of it—otherwise they will suck you into their racism & use you to shield them from accountability...
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[12-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is she racist because she was a cop, or did getting married to a white guy make her racist?

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[12-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Probably both.


[12-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Their methodology's all wrong, but the conclusion's likely correct.


[12-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is gonna be used to say "we're not racist" as racist policies get left in place by the hundreds.


[12-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden will do barely anything to actually fight inequality, until he keels over.


[12-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris will then "continue his legacy" as an unpopular, do-nothing-but-fix-what-trump-broke president.


[12-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A lot of things need to be fixed before things can advance.


[12-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
She'll probably get primaried.


[12-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/DavidGriscom/status/1293295620837584896

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That feeling when you stab every progressive in the back to get the VP job and they give it to the cop
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[12-Aug-20 01:06 AM] jlun2#8758
just wait 3 months to see if it works out then


[12-Aug-20 01:14 AM] ononim#8141
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[12-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Treascair#7785
> They've already started. Eric Trump is on Twitter calling Harris a radical leftist and I'm just like "stop threatening me with a good time"
@Dr. Mechano 

I'm actually convinced that if JFK or FDR ran today, much less Eisenhower, that they'd be called RINO's and decried as radical leftists today.


[12-Aug-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weren't those first two Democrats?


[12-Aug-20 01:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
They'd still be called radical leftists by Republicans, sure.


[12-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
And not allowed to run Republican.


[12-Aug-20 01:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eisenhower was a Republican


[12-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
But to be called a RINO you need to call yourself Republican first.


[12-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think we're at the point where Abraham Lincoln would be called a radical leftist RINO, but then again, that was the whole point of the Southern Strategy.


[12-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
George Washington would be considered unelectable by most Republicans etc.


[12-Aug-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm gonna keep my opinion from before this decision was announced that harris isn't the worst person Biden could've picked, but that's only because I thought she was second-worst of his shortlisted candidates


[12-Aug-20 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Looking forward, even if this un-dynamic duo beats Trump (or the man slips on a ramp), what's the over/under on a liberal or democrat winning the 2024 election


[12-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think 2024 is gonna see both Trump and Biden dead, Harris being primaried by a party that rejects her, and Republicans trying to put forth something stupid.


[12-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's gonna be progress, but in the stupidest way possible.


[12-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, racist laws overturned left and right, but Harris establishes a new federal law to preempt and go around sending SWAT all over.


[12-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Abortions available via mail pill nationwide, but Roe v Wade overturned, so you can be jailed for it.


[12-Aug-20 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
#AOC2024


[12-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Phelan#7647
I found the source of all money


[12-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/AlexDesignsIt/status/1292934064727613440?s=19

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@anoMeliDavidson @EdMarkey Taxpayers don’t fund the government. The government funds the taxpayers so they can pay taxes. The money comes from congress, who hold the power of the purse, when they pass legislation. The Fed then credits the appropriate account/s.
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[12-Aug-20 01:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
:roseconfused:


[12-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Opponent#3498
```Abortions available via mail pill nationwide, but Roe v Wade overturned, so you can be jailed for it.```


[12-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly Slav life. I mean, sure, why not. It's builds character :wheeze:


[12-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Tucker Carlson vs. either Harris (if not primaried) or AOC (if Harris is primaried)


[12-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris is absolutely primaried.


[12-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
BLM has majority support, remember.


[12-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Treascair#7785
I would *legitimately* like to see Harris vs. AOC.  Break out the popcorn for that one.


[12-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Harris would get crushed.


[12-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Treascair#7785
it'd be an entertaining debate asskicking, though.  I LOVED debate classes back in college, so seeing someone actually be good at it is almost as good as sex to me.

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[12-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Reactions


[12-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's an asskicking contest, not an asseating contest

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[12-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Mommy


[12-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I go take a nap and wake up to a Biden/Cop 2020 and Halo gets delayed into 2021


[12-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Truly the worst year ever


[12-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Marches[45]#0674
> [America] was built by whites, not by slaves, who barely made America any money and certainly not by Natives.


[12-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Mexico has no separation between church and state


[12-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Halo got delayed to 2021 probably because people couldn't stop roasting it


[12-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, defintely


[12-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The reveal was a disaster


[12-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It looked like an early Xbone game


[12-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Question is


[12-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Is blood gulch back


[12-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[12-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Blood gulch, one of the OG maps.


[12-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait for another Fable to underwhelm


[12-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's gonna be an MMO


[12-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So yeah


[12-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Microsoft Flight Sim


[12-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
maybe idk, I knew they were making an MMO


[12-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Crow#5457
wait, they're making the new fable an mmo?


[12-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently nobody knows


[12-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ladbible.com/technology/gaming-fable-will-be-open-world-rpg-not-mmo-says-insider-20200727

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'Fable' Will Be Open-World RPG, Not MMO, Confirms Insider
I'm so confused.
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[12-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They were for sure making an MMO some while ago


[12-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is why I'm hype for MSFS

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[12-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>not immediately locked on by sam launchers


[12-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
> Multiple sources familiar with development on the new Fable have confirmed to Windows Central that the MMO rumours are absolute nonsense. "There may be online elements like co-op functionality or limited, optional shared spaces," the publication notes. "But nothing to the extent that would justify classifying the game as an MMO."


[12-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.gamesradar.com/fable-isnt-actually-fable-4-but-an-mmo-set-in-the-fable-universe-suggests-new-rumour/

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Fable isn't actually Fable 4, but an MMO set in the Fable universe,...
New Fable game reported to be a next-gen MMO
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6iMVkyJUGZjZUgvs7NgSBk-1200-80.jpg


[12-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I look forward to all of the Airbus planes insulting me as I try to land


[12-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently there was an MMO and it died before beta ended, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fable_Legends

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Fable Legends is a cancelled cooperative action role-playing video game developed by Lionhead Studios and projected to be published by Microsoft Studios for Microsoft Windows and Xbox One. Microsoft announced the cancellation of the game on 7 March 2016. The servers shut down ...
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[12-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9svSePWwisQ

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Daniel McAulay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9svSePWwisQ
Being called a retard 4 times a flight....Awesome!
A321 landing Beijing.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9svSePWwisQ/maxresdefault.jpg


[12-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
maybe get better at landing


[12-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boeing planes don't need to tell you "Hey don't make a three point landing"


[12-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
and McDonnell-Douglas planes don't warn you at all because they just crash


[12-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`As an old white Catholic heading a party increasingly hostile to that demographic he had to pick the opposite, and Harris is a buffet of ethnicity (African-American and Indian) and religion (Baptist with a bit of Hinduism and a Jewish husband). Tough luck for the atheists.`


[12-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We already have an atheist president. He just knows how to fake things for politics.


[12-Aug-20 03:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Phelan#7647
@Teaspoon I was in the beta, it was a 1v4 action game (kinda like evolve), not an MMO


[12-Aug-20 03:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422723057564516352/742905694352703558/unknown.png
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[12-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why are MMOs even attempted anymore?


[12-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even the most solid progressives I know IRL hate Shaun King.


[12-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Sad part is the last sentence might be right.


[12-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Has there ever even been a VP nominee (for the 2 major parties, anyways) who's even close to like, Warren and Bernie?


[12-Aug-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what is that website used for archiving to get around paywalls?


[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
archive.is


[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://archive.is

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archive.is
create a copy of a webpage that will always be up
https://archive.is/apple-touch-icon-144x144.png


[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thanks


[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Nebbie Thomas "Amnesty, abortion, and acid" Eagleton, maybe?


[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archive.is/9LTs6

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A Bible Burning, a Russian News Agency and a Story Too Good to Chec...
archived 12 Aug 2020 00:58:47 UTC
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[12-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He supported decriminalization of marijuana in 1972, and thought abortion was a state's rights issue


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
you can also use it to not give clicks to questionable sites


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Crow#5457
I only view breitbart sites through archive.is


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
I dunno about that one, Its.


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You should get these
<https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox>
<https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome>


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have the bypass paywall add on but not everyone else does


[12-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Decriminalization of marijuana in 1972 is pretty progressive


[12-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah but that sounds like a "just abolish the federal gov't" type of idea set.


[12-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Cheney not sending his daughter to a reeducation camp was pretty progressive


[12-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though he's more of a moneytarian than a conservative


[12-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Keep in mind that Democrats really weren't liberal at all basically from 1963-2001


[12-Aug-20 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
outline works on plenty too


[12-Aug-20 03:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, I thought facebook was censoring the right but here we go

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[12-Aug-20 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/facebook-fire-employee-conservative-right-wing-breitbart-charlie-kirk-dimaond-and-silk-a9659301.html

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Facebook ‘fired employee who collected evidence of pro-conservative...
The report alleges that senior Facebook employees, including vice president of global public policy Joel Kaplan, were intervening on publishers' behalf
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[12-Aug-20 03:52 AM] illumnious#7938
wow


[12-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nothing surprising


[12-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"conservatives" whine and cry and scream so loud whenever anyone so much as looks at them that platforms give them preferential treatment all the time


[12-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of course that's lead to a situation where _any_ moderation at all is seen as oppressive given the history of massive leeway they've had until now


[12-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
twitter has said they try not to police American racism because of this.


[12-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Platforms do not owe them neutrality. When increasingly *mainstream* conservative discourse is frequently unabashed hate and conspiracy theories, then "bias" against those views is totally warranted.


[12-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Wait, I could post this last month, why are you banning me for something only 2% worse _this_ month! OPRESSING MY FIRST AMMENDEMNT RIGHTS MUCH, CUCKLORD?!"


[12-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Middle East stuff? Massive collateral damage, the algorithm snags people just for normal arabic text.


[12-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
But nobody cares if Middle Easterners get randomly autobanned over cat photos.


[12-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
People will throw a fit if American politicians suddenly get banned for saying to lynch gays.


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly Nebbie, middle easterners aren't real people


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except in Israel


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or coptics


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"you can't say we hate jews, because we like israel"


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Anti-BDS laws certainly are something.


[12-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone else has the value of an extra in an action movie, at best


[12-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Onion headline from like 15 years ago was "Equivalent of five Americans killed in attack in Iraq"

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[12-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
One of the things I work on regularly gets feedback from people in the middle east, including Iran


[12-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And they are, surprisingly, very normal


[12-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And also very aware of how much "the west" hates them


[12-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the thing that will really kill racism.


[12-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually meeting people from other side of the world at a young age.

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[12-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, *yeah.*

A lot of middle-eastern people don't agree with the oppressive governments that exist there. People can't help where they're born, a concept lost on some people.


[12-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/08/10/kamala-harris-progressive-pioneer-san-francisco-da-column/3334668001/

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Public defender: I worked with Kamala Harris. She was the most prog...
I grappled with this idea of defending a former prosecutor for a long time, but I have to say what I feel is right to set the record straight on Harris.
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[12-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Always feels weird when I see pinstripe suits post 1940


[12-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think they're cool.


[12-Aug-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```Why are MMOs even attempted anymore?```
because there has to be _something_


[12-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Opponent#3498
you cant just have WoW forever. And  that still refuses to die, if numbers are to go by, despite terrible mismanagement


[12-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Has there even been one that has come close to it


[12-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Numbers wise? Not really no


[12-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At least in the US


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Elder Scrolls keeps going, as does Old Republic


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
FFXIV after it relaunched maybe?


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But their numbers are tiny


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, FF15 still runs, as does, PSO or whatever its called


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And some other anime one I forget


[12-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Huge in Korea and Japan, niche elsewhere


[12-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(that said, some of the most profitable games by far are in those markets and completely unheard of in "the west")


[12-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
LotR Online still runs as well, but pretty much on maintenance mode


[12-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guild Wars 2 is popular still, have no idea how they finance it given there's no subscription and the monetization didn't seem that enticing


[12-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
EVE Online still runs but their market is literally just 200k CBT enthusiasts, sociopathic econ majors, and several russian oligarchs


[12-Aug-20 04:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
If Biden wins, I fucking hope he survives until the end of his term.
I do not want Harris to be president, ever.


[12-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He won't


[12-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He won't run for a second term


[12-Aug-20 04:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck Harris


[12-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He'll get 23d the first year, making Harris a 3-year president that will lose reelection


[12-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll die or not run in 2024.


[12-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shitty way to get a first woman president


[12-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
25th'd


[12-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
that


[12-Aug-20 04:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ew, imagine ruining such an important historical milestone by handing Harris the presidency through death.


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's important, but is it


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
>tfw first woman president is illegitimate because Biden died


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Then you have two female firsts.


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's like how Sally Ride is the first _American_ woman in space


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
It won't be the same.


[12-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We only count astronauts


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cosmonauts are just soviet propaganda


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally did not exist


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
Plus, worst part is that everyone bwill be forced to remember Harris.


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Tbf the Soviets basically did give a factory worker basic training and launch her into orbit as nothing more than a stunt


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's basically the plot to MST3K but IRL


[12-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well why not


[12-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
we launched dogs and chimps into space, it's not like they had to (or could do) much at that point


[12-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, apparently a report was recently released showing that "engagement in the warcraft franchise" is at its "highest point in the last few expansions" or something along those lines


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Radio in that you're not dissolving inside your suit and wait for the thing to fall back to earth


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
I really hate Harris


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Finally, something that unites both parties


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
that's... weird. Maybe if they counted Classic as well, then I can totally believe it.


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
During the debates, I cringed every time she opened her mouth.


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's only one good Harris, the one who firebombed Dresden


[12-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
actually, yes, it's worded as 'warcraft franchise'. That's base game, Classic, Hearthstone


[12-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Opponent#3498
(well maybe not HS but it owes everything to Warcraft and is set in a Warcraft AUs...)


[12-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Honestly, the most important thing with astronauts is they know the buttons to press, aren't stupid, and are cool under pressure.


[12-Aug-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
I have one of these characteristics


[12-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neil Armstrong wasn't the first man on the moon because he was some super genius, but because when the lunar training vehicle crashed, he ejected and later that day seemed perfectly normal.


[12-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He actually dangerously wasted fuel when it came time to land on the real Moon.


[12-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
But someone who panics would've spent even more fuel, gone past the point of no return, RIP.


[12-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Soviets had decent cosmonaut selection.


[12-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA would've had female astronauts, but it was too late in the process when they considered them.


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The computer would have landed the Lander on a bunch of rocks.


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
yeah @Opponent, most people are saying it was the classic version that was released meant to emulate the game as it was in 2006 (and the upcoming shadowlands expansion that seems to be taking notes from classic)


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
It would've costed a ton of money to train new astronauts.


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Crow#5457
and yeah, they seemed to specifically mention "warcraft franchise", not "World of Warcraft"


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Still can't believe Apollo relied on a single point of failure to depart the Moon


[12-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So the boys' club of pilots that seemed reasonably calm under pressure were just kept on until well into the Shuttle program.


[12-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Computer is a strong term for something that couldn't compete with a Ti-86


[12-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If the engine doesn't restart after two days on moon, fucked


[12-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of things in rokketry are single point of failure.


[12-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Apollo 13 nearly was a disaster because someone used the wrong voltage.


[12-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a heater never turned off.


[12-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So liquid oxygen and hydrogen became...not liquid.


[12-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh I'm surprised we don't lose more shit up there to micro debris or faulty wiring / electronics starting an inferno


[12-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
So a single spark in the stirring motor blew off the main power and life support.


[12-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
Space stuff is extremely well protected against debris.


[12-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Electronics is the really scary part.


[12-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everything has to be redundant.


[12-Aug-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
we can't even get that right _on land_


[12-Aug-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
oil well blowouts happen every few months because someone bypassed the computer control system


[12-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Only bad part of Soyuz is the possibility of the service module not detaching


[12-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey, the pump's been working great for months and that blinking yellow light is just a warning that keeps shutting things off and delaying getting off my shift for a full hour


[12-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If something's actually wrong I'm sure the system will let us know


[12-Aug-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
"mud gas alarm"? sensor must be faulty, there's no mud gas


[12-Aug-20 04:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
_drill string is violently ejected from the BOP in the background_


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The NASA Shuttle RTLS sim really shows how unprepared NASA was for it, though it also was a bad sim tbf


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
NASA thought about alternate return methods, btw, Its.


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Two engines out, we need to start pushing buttons"


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I remember the sims I had on my C64


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
But a rokket chair is a little unwieldy of a thing to design and use.


[12-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How do you design the Shuttle and _not_ make a water ditching possible?


[12-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Games" came with a 200 page ringbinder manual


[12-Aug-20 04:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
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🇬🇧 :tired:

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[12-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts could certainly pilot one, but it might blow up on landing, and thus doom the whole mission, when it was supposed to be the bakkup.


[12-Aug-20 04:35 AM] PwnyPony#6185
no mask moron


[12-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Shit was still absurdly hard, the C64 was more powerful, the sims far simpler, and the manual more complete (for the limited sim)


[12-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shuttle is hard to fly.


[12-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The difficulty of landing spaceplanes isn't the problem.


[12-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Shuttle just completely ditches any idea of safety.


[12-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Any little thing and the crew is doomed.


[12-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If it must have SRBs, could it at least have jet engines


[12-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jet engines stop working at like 900m/s.


[12-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know how close that is to orbit?


[12-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean so we aren't landing the US' only means of space travel as a glider


[12-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Landing gliders isn't that hard.


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I flew in one once.


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
And it's not why the shuttle's unsafe.


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure I'd called the shuttle a glider given those tiny ass wings


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, it does glide.


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It plummets less fast than a rock


[12-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
At a ridiculous speed.


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
180 miles per hour landing speed I think?


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Consider that Columbia spread debris over a 300+ mile area


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That wasn't because of gliding.


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was speed


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anything going that fast will tear apart when something's unusually-shaped.


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(and really far up)


[12-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why you need to slow the hell down.


[12-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nah, speed is not as bad high up.


[12-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
ISS is technically in atmosphere, actually.


[12-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Air's so thin orbital velocity won't kill you with drag.


[12-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean the debris spread


[12-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Get lower down? Drag is a nightmare.


[12-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the solution to Columbia's problem is to descend slowly.


[12-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
With a reliable slowdown mechanism.


[12-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
...It had a gaping hole in its wing


[12-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Slamming into the tropisphere with a big blunt ablator works.


[12-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes.


[12-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Protrudy bits that can break aren't great.


[12-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nor are piecemeal heatshields.


[12-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a reason SpaceX wants to just be big and fluffy and sweat fuel out.


[12-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
SpaceX actually designs competent crew rescue systems


[12-Aug-20 05:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://youtu.be/J1OvDB_wavI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OvDB_wavI
Democratic Debate: Kamala Harris Blasts Joe Biden Over Busing Stanc...
Sen. Kamala Harris of California blasts former Vice President Joe Biden for his previously held opinions on busing in schools. 

Debate night No. 2 marks the first time top-tier presidential candidates will confront one another in person over who is best fit to lead the Democr...
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[12-Aug-20 05:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
y'know, maybe putting Harris and Biden on blast isn't the smartest play here unless you have a solid plan for wiping the entire ballot clean and starting over with new candidates for both parties


[12-Aug-20 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or unless you have a good strategy for addressing their shortcomings once in office. 'Cause really, they may not be as progressive as we need them to be, but they are a much easier problem to tackle than a second Trump term


[12-Aug-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
if they do something wrong, republicans will actually hold them accountable


[12-Aug-20 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, even though the rallying cry that has come from some mysteriously influential sources is that SHE'S A COP WHO DID BAD AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE, accountability won't just apply to them


[12-Aug-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
crazy world


[12-Aug-20 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the minute Trump is out, the chain of dominoes starts with all the lawsuits that haven't yet met their statute of limitations that are just waiting for him to not be president anymore


[12-Aug-20 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and as soon as that starts, well, the ramifications of Trump filling his ranks with people who've done him favors is going to come back to bite them, too


[12-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't wait for the cries of "democratic purge!" as a thousand unqualified cronies are removed from their positions


[12-Aug-20 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the wishful thinking on my part is that a lot of these cronies are going to be put under gag orders by the various federal judges who are overseeing the cases that their names come up in, and while it likely won't have any effect whatsoever on their fox news appearances, it just might make life very hard for them


[12-Aug-20 05:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
*assuming* democrats can get their heads in the game and stay the course on voting him out


[12-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
[NARRATOR]
*"They didn't"*


[12-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
[NARRATOR]
*”Last time on America Ball Z.”*


[12-Aug-20 05:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it really has gotten to the point where I think 2020 has vored our sanity to the point where climbing back up isn't possible anymore, and the only way to get through it is down


[12-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/tracyalloway/status/1292632742774022146

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New paper finds that increased corporate power is basically responsible for all of the negative financial and economic trends of the past few decades, including stagnant wages, rising inequality, more household debt and financial instability.

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[12-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
whodathunkit


[12-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Crow#5457
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I'm SHOCKED! - Futurama
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[12-Aug-20 05:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is this that "late stage capitalism" those kids are talking about these days


[12-Aug-20 05:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bkDykGhM8c

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Graham: Trump a 'race-baiting, xenophobic religious ...
Sen. Lindsey Graham had harsh words for fellow Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on CNN's New Day.
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[12-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Oh this is ||from 2015||


[12-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
2069


[12-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Back when he could be honest before he had to suck dick to tow the party line

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[12-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the first image I have related to today's news that I've had for a while

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[12-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[12-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is the second.

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[12-Aug-20 06:50 AM] jlun2#8758
he jumped 50 years in age


[12-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Opponent#3498
stress of the presidency is a horrible thing aint it


[12-Aug-20 07:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
oof


[12-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, Trump's admitted on national TV to sexual assault and peeping on naked teens...


[12-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
admitted/boasted


[12-Aug-20 07:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
And that was awful too.
Just because Trump does something doesn't make it acceptable.


[12-Aug-20 07:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden was accused by a nutcase of something that may or may not have happened 40 years ago


[12-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump proudly boasted of that same thing (and more) a couple of years before becoming president


[12-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.dw.com/en/neo-fascist-ordine-nuovo-splinter-plot-foiled-in-italy/a-18146880 (created 1956)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_feminism (created early 70s) maybe coincidence but its kinda wierd

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[12-Aug-20 07:18 AM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[12-Aug-20 07:18 AM] byte[]#2610
political lesbanism is some top tier dumbassery

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[12-Aug-20 07:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
Neo-fascist lesbian feminism.


[12-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean it is pretty much the fascist logo but without the fags (bundle of sticks)


[12-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Serenity#9645
kinda creative, im gay but i find the humor in how messed up it is


[12-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Fascism lesbianism:twihappy:


[12-Aug-20 07:53 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/dpIkl2QnJeI

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[12-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Synfag#9241
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[12-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Synfag#9241
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[12-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Synfag#9241
2018 to 2020


[12-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Synfag#9241
I guess times change.


[12-Aug-20 10:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Dude face who's been reading 2 years worth of tweets to find something discreditable

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[12-Aug-20 11:05 AM] wren#0114
^ average twitter user's face after just 3 months of twitter use


[12-Aug-20 11:09 AM] Synfag#9241
the Finnish knows.


[12-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Opponent#3498
rip Gabbard, the Lady of the Death Camps.


[12-Aug-20 03:11 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 03:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Frisk 'n Sniff

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[12-Aug-20 04:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
This is some battered-wife tier coping.
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Joe Biden is like your ex’s hoodie. America has a very toxic boyfriend right now that came to us in a very awful time. Joe reminds us of a time when everything was better. He might not be “the one,” but putting him on might remind us of love that we once had. Let’s cuddle up....
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[12-Aug-20 05:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/charter-tries-to-convince-fcc-that-broadband-customers-want-data-caps/

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Charter tries to convince FCC that broadband customers want data caps
Charter petitioned FCC to eliminate merger condition that forbids data caps.
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[12-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Phelan#7647

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[12-Aug-20 05:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archive.is/YF1WS

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Marion County, Fla., Sheriff Billy Woods bans deputies from wearing...
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[12-Aug-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[12-Aug-20 05:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
but **why**


[12-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it makes liberals mad


[12-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh. 

*“In light of the current events when it comes to the sentiment and/or hatred toward law enforcement in our country today, this is being done to ensure there is clear communication and for identification purposes of any individual walking into a lobby,” he wrote.*

I mean

Eugh, I *guess* this is a justification but surely just wearing huge visible ID numbers on your uniform achieves the same purpose


[12-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or just mandate the cops wear clear masks so their faces are still visible. There are ways around this.


[12-Aug-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he says this, but really it's the liberal thing


[12-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Opponent#3498
but they're also being defunded so gotta go with the cheapest solution :twismug:


[12-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"we won't go overbudget if half the cops die of covid"


[12-Aug-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If we have to spread a horrifying disease while on duty to make sure the law is kept, then so be it!


[12-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/charter-tries-to-convince-fcc-that-broadband-customers-want-data-caps/

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Charter tries to convince FCC that broadband customers want data caps
Charter petitioned FCC to eliminate merger condition that forbids data caps.
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/data-trickle-760x380.jpg


[12-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically "data caps add special flavour to our plans that our users love to enjoy!"


[12-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Suprise mechanics.


[12-Aug-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
People love surprise fees! It really spices up the customer relations aspect


[12-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Have you heard of OOB Shark?


[12-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
*Customers really would love to surf the net with this fish!*
Comments section under the article delivers.


[12-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373

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[12-Aug-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
the reality is that the vast majority of people will be perfectly serviceable from shared connections


[12-Aug-20 06:23 PM] byte[]#2610
as an ISP you can implement some digital trickery in your routers to move "heavy users" to their own connections, or even physically move them their own dedicated ports


[12-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes, it is called "Contention Ratio".


[12-Aug-20 06:24 PM] byte[]#2610
and this is just part of capacity you should already have if you are an ISP


[12-Aug-20 06:25 PM] byte[]#2610
in that way shared users can continue to be oblivious and appear to have fairly high peak bandwidth at most times while saving money for the ISP and not requiring any metering


[12-Aug-20 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
hey ISPs, if you really want to drive prices down here, build more IXes and peer more traffic, we're tired of being screwed over by transit providers for bandwidth in the US


[12-Aug-20 06:26 PM] byte[]#2610
transit costs like 4x what it does overseas


[12-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You need a good competition commission or similar. Here, one of ISPs abused its peering monopoly ended up penalized heavily by forcing to discount peering costs for few years every year.


[12-Aug-20 06:30 PM] byte[]#2610
it is understood that over here at least comcast has forced youtube and netflix into private peering agreements


[12-Aug-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
don't know how much they are paying out, but potentially millions annually, even though the traffic costs nothing for either company to deliver because netflix's content boxes deliver last mile content at every comcast PoP and don't go through any internal backbone or have to be hauled through the public internet


[12-Aug-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
google's PoPs are connected everywhere, and they do have a backbone, so that's also not a transit cost


[12-Aug-20 06:32 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a complete farce used to extort those companies and the FCC should have busted it up years ago, but >Ajit Pai


[12-Aug-20 06:34 PM] byte[]#2610
my opinion is that youtube and netflix should contract with some bigger T1 ISPs for cheaper transit, even if it's not last mile, and tell comcast to suck it


[12-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why ISPs dont like media providers?


[12-Aug-20 06:44 PM] byte[]#2610
they love them, because they're cash cows


[12-Aug-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
they can say "jump" and they media companies will ask "how high"


[12-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I thought they have clashing interests because of triple play


[12-Aug-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
they used to, but there was no real rivalry because they didn't have overlapping market segments. now they do have overlapping market segments, but triple play is mostly dead in the US these days


[12-Aug-20 06:51 PM] byte[]#2610
many ISPs are moving away from having TV take up spectrum and just use IP through the client router instead


[12-Aug-20 07:12 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/3iDGd6n

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Florida sheriff forbids staff, visitors from wearing masks
Florida sheriff forbids staff, visitors from wearing masks
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[12-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just


[12-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wear a riot helmet and cover your face with the visor, that simple.


[12-Aug-20 07:21 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm guessing this is going to be reposted every day until the elections


[12-Aug-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-trump-congress-cut-taxes-unilateral-capital-gains-2020-8

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The White House is reportedly weighing whether Trump can sidestep C...
President Trump supports a capital-gains tax cut, which would mostly benefit wealthy households. But Congress holds authority over setting tax policy.
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[12-Aug-20 08:06 PM] illumnious#7938
Old article https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-13/what-happens-if-the-president-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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If the President Tests Positive for the Virus, What Happens?
There’s precedent for a temporary handoff of power to the vice president—but also potential for constitutional chaos.
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[12-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-irs-decided-to-get-tough-against-microsoft-microsoft-got-tougher

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The IRS Decided to Get Tough Against Microsoft. Microsoft Got Tougher.
For years, the company has moved billions in profits to Puerto Rico to avoid taxes. When the IRS pushed it to pay, Microsoft protested that the agency wasn’t being nice. Then it aggressively fought back in court, lobbied Congress and changed the law.
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[12-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
pro-karen move


[12-Aug-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/tcyuvywq8kg51.jpg

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[12-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also: Avoid arguing about policy. Focus first and foremost on the character of your opponent and how lame they are.


[12-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember to scroll through their likes and reblogs/retweets so you can start your argument by pointing out the weird porn/memes/hobbies they like


[12-Aug-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Or insult them for... having a cheery photo of themselves with their mouth open


[12-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And if you can ever find evidence that they once advocated something contradictory to what they're promoting now, even if it was a decade ago and they reasonably could have changed their mind since then, grill them for *hypocrisy.*


[12-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My opponent smiles and consumes the wrong kind of *beans* and is therefore no real man.


[12-Aug-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
this ni🅱️:b:a eatin beans


[12-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
soybeans make you a feminine beta cuck

to be a true alpha you've gotta eat mean beans

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[12-Aug-20 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Basement dwelling /pol/ posters when they see a bearded man (who's likely more successful in life than them) smile with his mouth open: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Km7yeXDe4s

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Doug Walker crying on the computer with a lot of Sound Effects
Ed, Edd n Eddy sfx, Half-Life sfx, Hanna barbera sfx, Wario's Laugh, you call it

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[12-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
liking things and expressing genuine joy is hereby declared unmanly


[12-Aug-20 08:57 PM] wren#0114

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[12-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Wait, I actually don't know the "wea" word that got cut off here. I'm off my meme game.


[12-Aug-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
weak


[12-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh wait, weak, i got it


[12-Aug-20 09:00 PM] wren#0114
modern problems require modern solutions

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[12-Aug-20 09:10 PM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman corporations are invincible


[12-Aug-20 09:11 PM] illumnious#7938
Unexpected jump in consumer prices shows the economy is healing https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/12/the-surprise-jump-in-prices-may-be-a-good-sign-for-the-economy-and-its-not-stoking-the-fires-of-inflation.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard


[12-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or, you know, gotta milk all the money out of the proles before they dry up spending on other corps' stuff, especially as production costs have increased as well


[12-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm reading that Microsoft article, and I'm reminded of Frosku. 'If you raise the taxes the rich will leave' :wheeze:


[12-Aug-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
raise taxes everywhere at once :bigbrain: 
prob not possible w/ current political climate tho


[12-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Opponent#3498
there will always be places like Singapore whos only commodity be tax evasion opportunities.


[12-Aug-20 09:32 PM] jlun2#8758
i can see like 3 people pushing to base their company on the moon, while every one else tries to make some oil platform a micronation


[12-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
but no, the point was, those that wanted to leave, left _ages_ ago.


[12-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
yup, there will always be something like this.


[12-Aug-20 09:33 PM] jlun2#8758
how is it that only 3 people actually tries the space approach while every other billionaire insists on some bunker on earth


[12-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The controversy on Twitter about that anime where the girl looks super young for 19 for some reason reminded me of how people just forgot about the Ruroni Kenshin guy


[12-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the problem with huge projects like space exploration. It simply will not pay soon enough for any business to consider it acceptable.


[12-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I think the hard cap for what a business would consider long-term is like... 20 years or so?


[12-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Opponent#3498
and even then, people generally live quarterly reports to quarterly reports these days.


[12-Aug-20 09:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking he doesnt look super young? who ?

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[12-Aug-20 09:45 PM] jlun2#8758
> I think the hard cap for what a business would consider long-term is like... 20 years or so?
i cant even picture companies thinking more than a year outside amazon lol


[12-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/thecreator_wav/status/1293605037567082501 i've got a candidate for next Joker movie

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[12-Aug-20 09:53 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[12-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Opponent#3498
I like it. An excellent attack poster.


[12-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@jlun2"In November 2017, police found DVDs with footage of naked girls in their "early" teens in Watsuki's Tokyo office. Tokyo Police raided Watsuki's home as part of an investigation into the purchase of child pornography. The search uncovered DVDs containing videos of naked girls less than 18 years of age. He was referred to prosecutors over possession of child pornography on November 21.[23][24] The serialization of Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc was put on hiatus after the details of Watsuki's charges were made public.[25][26] In February 2018, Watsuki was fined ¥200,000.[27] The Hokkaido Arc resumed serialization in June 2018.[28][29]"


[12-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine a famous animator getting busted for CP and only fined $2000


[12-Aug-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's video stores in the open in Tokyo that sell videos of 12yo girls in swimsuits and lolita fashion


[12-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just as long as they're not doing anything "lewd" it's just accepted as OK or something


[12-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/PTSDGuts2/status/1293619258828574720

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[12-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'd like to add that the charge in the US is generally around 10 years plus decades of monitored computer use plus sex offender registry


[12-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
$2000 for that is insane, I don't even think low level drug offenses are that lax


[12-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Though maybe that's a problem with our system


[12-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In Japan? Oh, drug offences are for sure higher


[12-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I meant in US


[12-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah Japan ruins your life for marijuana but slaps you on the wrist for CP


[12-Aug-20 11:05 PM] jlun2#8758
so when will we legalize marijuana  everywhere


[12-Aug-20 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
to be fair, judging by their birthrates it's not like people act upon their desires regardless of age :wheeze:  So it's w/e


[12-Aug-20 11:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> so when will we legalize marijuana  everywhere
@jlun2 when the gamers rise up


[12-Aug-20 11:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when we can figure out the right summoning ritual to call godzilla


[12-Aug-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-ceo-threatens-temporary-california-shutdown-labor-ruling-proposition-22-2020-8

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Uber and Lyft threaten to temporarily shut down in California over ...
A judge ruled earlier this week that Uber, Lyft and their gig-work counterparts must classify workers as employees, not contractors.
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[13-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jamie-lee-curtis-floats-conspiracy-theory-that-trump-supporters-are-stealing-mail-trucks-to-win-election

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Jamie Lee Curtis floats conspiracy theory that Trump supporters are...
Jamie Lee Curtis is facing criticism for implying President Trump’s supporters are working to win the election by stealing mail trucks.
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[13-Aug-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
>WE
lol


[13-Aug-20 12:24 AM] byte[]#2610
the conspiracy website complains about conspiracies. irony is dead


[13-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/the-young-turks-tyt-democratic-national-convention-dnc-press-pass/

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https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/the-young-turks-tyt-democratic-national-convention-dnc-press-pass/
The Young Turks’ Email Says DNC Denied Them Press Passes to Convent...
An email from The Young Turks says the DNC denied them press passes. Most of the convention is virtual this year and even Biden isn't attending in person.
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[13-Aug-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, their "media outlet" name isn't that far away from "hitler did nothing wrong"


[13-Aug-20 12:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I guess since the Armenian genocide never happened it's not really


[13-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Insulting Turkishness" is almost as insane as Armenian genocide denial


[13-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, imagine if you couldn't crack a joke about George Washington


[13-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/washington-dc-sued-for-more-info-on-blm-mural

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https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/washington-dc-sued-for-more-info-on-blm-mural
Washington, D.C. sued for more info on BLM mural
WASHINGTON (SBG) — The District of Columbia is facing a lawsuit from the conservative legal group, Judicial Watch, for not providing records about the now-famous Black Lives Matter mural painted on the street outside of the White House.  Caption: Video: Sinclair Broadcast Grou...
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[13-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://thepostmillennial.com/dc-mayor-orders-words-defund-the-police-paved-over

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https://thepostmillennial.com/dc-mayor-orders-words-defund-the-police-paved-over
DC mayor orders 'DEFUND THE POLICE' mural removed
Many have speculated that the Democrat mayor's move to pave over the "defund the police" mural is connected to how politically inconvenient the message is for Joe Biden, who just picked Kamala Harris, the former top cop of California as his running mate.
https://thepostmillennial.com/content/images/2020/08/Police-2.png


[13-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
don't think it's true tbh. It _is_ still a stupid slogan and the thing has no artistic value.


[13-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/22/redwood-city-black-lives-matter-mural-maga

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/22/redwood-city-black-lives-matter-mural-maga
California city removes Black Lives Matter mural after request to a...
Redwood City gave an artist permission to paint Black Lives Matter art but has now decided no street murals will be allowed
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[13-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6voTf2qcTI

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Community members fed up with Black Lives Matter - telling them to ...
They are fed up with the Black Lives Matter Organization disrupting communities and neighborhoods - and they made their opinion very clear.

Source: TikTok @sniper087

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[13-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8 if you're just going to post randomly dated links, we already have r/news


[13-Aug-20 01:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeanine-pirro-joe-biden-fox-news-2020-8

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Fox News host baselessly claims that 'something's going to happen' ...
"I have a sense that something's going to happen before the election, and he's not even going to be on the ticket," she said.
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[13-Aug-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/511736-energy-department-showerheads-rollback-trump-complaints

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Energy Department proposes showerhead standards rollback after Trum...
The Trump administration is moving to loosen environmental standards for showerheads following a string of public complaints from the president about low-flow fixtures designed to save water.
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[13-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, wasn't he complaining that showers didn't have enough pressure?


[13-Aug-20 01:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> A new proposal from the Department of Energy (DOE) would change the definition of a showerhead, essentially allowing different components within the device to count as individual fixtures, sidestepping requirements that allow no more than 2.5 gallons to flow through per minute.

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[13-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://nationalfile.com/drag-story-hour-twitter-account-claims-love-has-no-age-in-controversial-tweet/

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Drag Story Hour Twitter Account Claims ‘Love Has No Age’ in Controv...
The UK Drag Queen Story Hour Twitter account was locked after drawing fury from various social media users due to
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[13-Aug-20 01:08 AM] JC Denton#7076
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[13-Aug-20 01:08 AM] JC Denton#7076
👀


[13-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Dint she use Blacks and Hispanics as Slave Labor in California?


[13-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[13-Aug-20 01:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
MAOTROT BLOOMBERNIE


[13-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Your daily reminder that Trump's name was in epstens black book and that Trump admin gassed protesters so he can get a photo op


[13-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Source?


[13-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
about the Epstien thing


[13-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/22/jeffrey-epsteins-black-book-trump-clintons-prince-andrew.html

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The big names in Jeffrey Epstein's 'Black Book': Trumps, Clintons, ...
Also in Epstein's address book are supermarket mogul Ron Burkle, Chelsea Clinton, former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and John Kerry, and media titan Rupert Murdoch, New York magazine noted.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106024529-1596566627856-eps.jpg?v=1596566643


[13-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Oh the black book


[13-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, a bunch of people were in there


[13-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
a lot of famous people, I believe even Tom Hanks was mentioned


[13-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
From what I understand, from all ive read, especially from the witnesses and victims. Trump thought his Island was shitty, and preferred his personal resorts.


[13-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
cuz thats how big Trumps Ego is


[13-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He was never seen on the Island, but he was friends with Epstein, until the Investigations dropped in the early 2000s. Trump personally kicked his ass off his resort. At least he did one thing right.


[13-Aug-20 01:35 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The only person on record (that we know of) that was seen on the Island with the girls, was Clinton.


[13-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He waited around untill the investigation started for him to dump his ass even tho he would have allready have an idea of the fucked up shit he was into?


[13-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Coward and unloyal.


[13-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No he waited until there was enough proof to actual condemn him. He probably heard rumors


[13-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
this was a different time. Back then people dint jump on things without Evidence


[13-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You either dump him when you  know of his shit or you stay loyal.


[13-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He did dump him


[13-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Clinton and The Prince dint Dump him


[13-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeah when the allegations started.


[13-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Caw, this was the late 90s, we would do that today...not 20 years ago


[13-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Dershowitz was also super involved


[13-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He knew. Also if was braging about his resorts being better then he would atleast know about what happened on the island


[13-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Caw have you read the files?


[13-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I spent 4 hours reading over the files


[13-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> From what I understand, from all ive read, especially from the witnesses and victims. Trump thought his Island was shitty, and preferred his personal resorts.


[13-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, he did not like his resorts cuz he thought his resorts were better


[13-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So yeah he knew of the island. And if he knew of it he knew what went on in it.


[13-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, the best way to keep a secret is in plain sight. Everyone knew about the Island. It was public knowledge. What wasnt Public was, what was actually going on there. And I believe the first person to bring this shit to the public was actually Alex Jones lol


[13-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
back in the 90s


[13-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Alex Jones is a massive idiot who shits out misinformation.


[13-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, he does. But he was right about Epstein


[13-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
decades ago


[13-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And come on if he and Trump where buddy buddys he would be in the know about the shit going on there.


[13-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He droped his ass when it was convenient


[13-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No, the only people who would have known, would have been the victims of Epstein. The people he blacked mailed, and the girls he trafficked


[13-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
they would know, Trump wouldnt cuz Epistien never got the chance to Blackmail him


[13-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm just saying if he's in his black book he might know more about Epsteins evil then other people


[13-Aug-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I wouldnt be surprised if Trump knew considering his long history of sexual abuse allegations and openly bragging about sexually harrassing women


[13-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Uhh


[13-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
alright?


[13-Aug-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the whole thing where he peeped on teenage girls during a beauty pagent


[13-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
right...


[13-Aug-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

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Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations
Donald Trump, current president of the United States, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s. The accusations have resulted in three much reported instances of litigatio...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Donald_Trump_Pentagon_2017.jpg


[13-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
yeah, hes been accused of everything


[13-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
as any of it ever been proven in a court of law?


[13-Aug-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has openly bragged about them on air


[13-Aug-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Women just let you grab em by the pussy when you;re famous"


[13-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Was anything Jeffrey Epstein did ever proven in a court? :twismug:


[13-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Compared to the things I would say around my friends back in highschool. Trump sounds like a nerd trying to be cool


[13-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
its rather vanilla


[13-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump can't be a nerd he is too stupid for that.


[13-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You really think hes stupid?


[13-Aug-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
His first ex-wife ivana accused him of raping her during their relationship


[13-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/21/trump-doesnt-wear-coronavirus-mask-to-ford-plant.html

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Trump doesn't wear coronavirus mask in public at Ford plant
Trump had a "legal responsibility" under state law to wear a mask for coronavirus protection when he visited Ford's plant, Michigan's attorney general said.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106547947-1590092760444gettyimages-1214449359.jpeg?v=1590094245


[13-Aug-20 01:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is a total moron, his teachers have said so them selves


[13-Aug-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/

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https://www.studyinternational.com/news/trump-student-wharton/
Revealed: Trump's professor thought he was his 'dumbest student' ev...
Donald Trump has an interesting take on modesty, to say the least. Despite the US president attesting to the fact he finished "top of his class" at
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[13-Aug-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his daddy paid his way through college like a lot of rich kids


[13-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Fair enough


[13-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fun fact: while debateing this (this being the Ford mask thing) elsewhere i got the response "Again, maybe he didn't believe in masks!"


[13-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse some how that makes it better


[13-Aug-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
honestly if it werent for gag suits, he might have been tried in court several dozen times by now


[13-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
And


[13-Aug-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry, Slapp suits


[13-Aug-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation

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Strategic lawsuit against public participation
A strategic lawsuit against public participation (SLAPP) is a lawsuit intended to censor, intimidate, and silence critics by burdening them with the cost of a legal defense until they abandon their criticism or opposition.In the typical SLAPP, the plaintiff does not normally e...


[13-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what if....by some chance...hes actually not stupid, or incompetent....but actually dangerously intelligent....smart enough to use your idea of him as being dumb against you?


[13-Aug-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> expect to win the lawsuit. The plaintiff's goals are accomplished if the defendant succumbs to fear, intimidation, mounting legal costs, or simple exhaustion and abandons the criticism. In some cases, repeated frivolous litigation against a defendant may raise the cost of directors and officers liability insurance for that party, interfering with an organization's ability to operate.[2] A SLAPP may also intimidate others from participating in the debate. A SLAPP is often preceded by a legal threat. SLAPPs bring about freedom of speech concerns due to their chilling effect and are often difficult to filter out and penalize because the plaintiffs attempt to obfuscate their intent to censor, intimidate, or silence their critics.


[13-Aug-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is dangerously stupid with a knowledge of how to use slapp suits


[13-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
How did he win the Presidency?


[13-Aug-20 02:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he duped a bunch of desperate people into voting for him


[13-Aug-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he'ss charismatic if you dont know much about him, charismatic doesnt mean smart


[13-Aug-20 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
i had to go through calc 2 :ts_cry:
cant bribe it away


[13-Aug-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technichally he technicalitied his way into rpesidency, he didnt actually win by any means


[13-Aug-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
electoral college, yaaay


[13-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Talisa Pierce a perfict storm of a bad dem canadate, and the EC being trash


[13-Aug-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he failed upwards, if you will


[13-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Or maybe...just Maybe....The Democrats, like you underestimated him...allowed him to go as far as he did. And by saying a bunch of borderline racist and managed to get the Media on him 24/7 for months, giving him over 5 billion dollars worth of exposure.


[13-Aug-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh no, i called him gettign in a mile away


[13-Aug-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people were jinxing it so fucking hard


[13-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
@Gordon Freeman  so pretty much the same situation we find ourselves in right now


[13-Aug-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but people being overconfident is not the same as him being smart


[13-Aug-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
'the 74 year old president who has never been told "no" in his life is dangerously smart and acting dumb to fuck with the opposition'


[13-Aug-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he owes the brains of that to his election team, not himself


[13-Aug-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
ok conspiratard


[13-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Sorry if I show my hatred towards the Democrats, Ive been a Progressive for years, and I generally blame these people for our current situation.


[13-Aug-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
funny i didnt know mitch mcconnell wAS a proggressive


[13-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
hes not?


[13-Aug-20 02:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
...


[13-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what are you talking about?


[13-Aug-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you think mitch mcconnell is actually a progressive?


[13-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
no??


[13-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
you're the one saying that, when did I say that?


[13-Aug-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was beign sarcastic because you blame progressives when it;s been mainly him and his cronies holding legislation hostage for 12 years


[13-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Democrats


[13-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Progressive


[13-Aug-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Name a single progressive republican, then


[13-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause while it's true that a lot of the democratic party is neoliberal vs. progressive, they're a heck of a lot more progressive than the party of regressivism


[13-Aug-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
democrats have actually passed over 300+ bills in the last 4 years that would have fixed a lot of ashit, and all of them are sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk right now beign ignored


[13-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Oh please, thats a funny one. Democrats being progressive lol Wasnt Pelosy trying to sell medical insurance to people who lost their jobs?


[13-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressives are a wing of the Democratic Party


[13-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Really? Is that why they picked Biden and Kamala? Democratic Establishment Goons?


[13-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Talisa Pierce Not at all. People in the rust belt where desperate to get anyone who would say they would fix everything. That illusion by Trump is now gone. Biden is a much more solid canadate then Clinton. The anti sjw counter culture has eroded. Trump has failed to do much of anything about the COVID-19 crisis and will die on the econ sword he once weiled.


[13-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/ohio/

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Ohio Polls
The latest political polls collected by FiveThirtyEight.
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[13-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Trump is not a Dictator, we live in a Republic with Democratic Institutions. Trump cannot snap his fingers and solve our problems. I wish he could...but then that would be a Dictator.


[13-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and im not having that


[13-Aug-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is working on being a dictator


[13-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
is he taking the Guns?


[13-Aug-20 02:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet that's what he's trying to do, and is exactly why people are criticizing his executive orders that overstep the powers granted to the executive


[13-Aug-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he isnt a full one yet, and hopefully never will be


[13-Aug-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not all dictators go after guns. sometiems thye use guns to their advatnage to get citizens violent with eachother


[13-Aug-20 02:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yeah, Trump's supported red-flag laws and other gun removal ideas several times over his presidency until the NRA warned him to toe the line


[13-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
huh, so supporting Democratic position makes you a dictator?


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i believe its the democrats that also support red-flag laws


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A wing means a portion of the party, not all of it


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The guy gassed protesters so he can have a photo op.


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pff he doesnt support democratic legislation, he has openly said congress should get out of his way several times


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so will you defend Right Wingers when Trump comes for their guns?


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would


[13-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Arm the blm protesters


[13-Aug-20 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Other than criticizing them for making their bed and lying in it, yes


[13-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I detest right wingers who abandon all support of the 2nd Amendment done by liberals just because some people want gun control in some form


[13-Aug-20 02:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Just the same as we would criticize a democrat for literally saying "we're going to take your guns"


[13-Aug-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would mock thme openly, but yes i woudl defend them and their gun rights


[13-Aug-20 02:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
guns should be regulated but not removed nor the right to own taken away


[13-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
should speech be also regulated?


[13-Aug-20 02:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It already is, more than you think


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speech is very regulated


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speech is regulated, yes


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
is hate speech regulated?


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yes


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can;t openly yell fire in a public space to cause a panic


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends what you mean by hate speech.


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
actually, you can


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you get arrested for trying to cause a panic


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Incitement isn't protected. Neither is yelling fire in a theater.


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can do anything that's illegal, that's true


[13-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
in some states, you can actually yell fire in a theater


[13-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
its legal, and protected


[13-Aug-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which states?


[13-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True threats also aren't protected.


[13-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i know right? I dint find out about that till recently


[13-Aug-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
threatenign to shoot up a building is also an arrestable offense


[13-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Speech rights are more restricted


[13-Aug-20 02:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Do the protections cover *falsely* shouting fire? In opposition to Holmes' opinion?


[13-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the first amendment also only covers consequences from the government, saying the N word over facebook and such can still get you fired by your job


[13-Aug-20 02:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yep


[13-Aug-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
facebook, twitter, and what have you can also ban you for hate speech


[13-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Brandenburg v. Ohio is more helpful.


[13-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action`


[13-Aug-20 02:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Interpreting Brandenburg v. Ohio or Schenk v. United States to imply that yelling "fire" is specifically allowed is misconstruing the point


[13-Aug-20 02:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No im just saying in some states, its actually legal. Dont know which states are those...but you can actually get away with doing that.


[13-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
_Elonis v. US_ is a great modern case


[13-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was about a guy sharing a WKUK sketch


[13-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I think Neo-Libs thinking they are Progressives is kinda cute


[13-Aug-20 02:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
having the right to own a gun doesnt mean it cant have rules to the ownership :hopeless:


[13-Aug-20 02:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If a neoliberal ends up passing a progressive piece of legislation in the process of pretending, what's the difference?


[13-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
no, if real progressives and Democratic Socialists would take over the DNC. First thing we'd do is get rid of all these people.


[13-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
We dont give a shit what they give us, we want them gone


[13-Aug-20 02:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's true, the secret progressive agenda is to do away with party primaries entirely


[13-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Bernie betrayed us of course. The money was too good, instead of destroying the DNC. He joined them.


[13-Aug-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with a 2 party system is thye can never truly be gone, though i would love it if the primaries were abolished and elections were far far shorter


[13-Aug-20 02:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Bernie did a pretty good job destroying the Iowa caucus


[13-Aug-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie did what he could, and he basically made it so thye exposed themselves


[13-Aug-20 02:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
its credibility is shot entirely because of the transparency Bernie personally pushed for


[13-Aug-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he left the primaries because congress needed him more at the time


[13-Aug-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has a job, and he fuckin does it


[13-Aug-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A lot better than just about anyone else in that building too


[13-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Y’all heard Soph got wiped off the internet?


[13-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You know whats kinda ironic? While the Democrats were trying to sell broke people medical insurance. Trump gave Corona Virus Victims Free Medicaid. I kid you not.


[13-Aug-20 02:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally who


[13-Aug-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when the fuck did this happen?


[13-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Soph was a 14 year old youtuber who got yote for bigotry


[13-Aug-20 02:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Please find a more credible source


[13-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/upshot/trump-hospitals-coronavirus.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/upshot/trump-hospitals-coronavirus.html
Trump Says Hospitals Will Be Paid for Treating Uninsured Coronaviru...
Critics say that the plan may not go to hospitals in the states hit the hardest so far and that it fails to address the problems of uninsured people more generally.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/04/upshot/up-virus-uninsured-print/up-virus-uninsured-facebookJumbo.jpg


[13-Aug-20 02:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's not medicaid expansion


[13-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://khn.org/news/trump-wrongly-said-health-insurers-will-pay-for-all-coronavirus-treatment/

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Trump Wrongly Said Health Insurers Will Pay For All Coronavirus Tre...
There are important distinctions between how insurance companies will cover the test and the treatment. This makes the president’s statement an exaggeration, at best.
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[13-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
huh....thats funny


[13-Aug-20 02:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically he said insurance companies will do what they do


[13-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
But yeah Soph got yote in August 2019.


[13-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
hold on, fuck the mainstream media


[13-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i hate it when they play with words and shit


[13-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-plans-to-pay-hospitals-to-treat-uninsured-coronavirus-patients-11585927877

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WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Administration to Pay Hospitals to Treat...
The plan comes as the White House faces criticism for not launching a special enrollment period for people seeking coverage under the Affordable Care Act.
https://images.wsj.net/im-172538/social


[13-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
it wasnt a full expansion, but the democrats tried to stop him from doing this


[13-Aug-20 02:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As a matter of fact, Trump rather distinctly did *not* expand medicaid


[13-Aug-20 02:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
source that they tried to stop him?


[13-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i dotn even want to dig that far back, but they were shit talking him. They dint try to stop him persay.


[13-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
They wanted to sell people insurance


[13-Aug-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
source?


[13-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
for the Corona Virus, and Trump did his own thing


[13-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Source pwease. Uwu


[13-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/12/heroes-act-coronavirus-health-insurance-industry/

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HEROES Act Delivers a Win to the Health Insurance Industry
The health insurance industry has for weeks been lobbying Congress to protect employer-sponsored coverage in the next coronavirus stimulus package.
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2020/05/pelosi_GettyImages-1212814265-e1589318859173.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&q=90&fit=crop&w=1200&h=800


[13-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
heres one part of it


[13-Aug-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
aroudn that time i beleive democrats were trying to fight GOP congressmen to get unemployed people extra benefits and most people safety net income checks monthly. while the GOP just tried to give it to corporations and small businesses


[13-Aug-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Continuing coverage for furloughed employees who aren't paying premiums is not the same thing as selling insurance


[13-Aug-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they managed to get a single $1200 check for most people and that was delayed so trump could put his ego stamp on it


[13-Aug-20 02:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I cant find these fucking articles anymore. Anything that makes the DNC look like the rat bastards they are gets sent 10 pages back


[13-Aug-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically the house tried to get employees further employment insurance coverage


[13-Aug-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile the GOP smashed that with a hammer and trump made a toothless halfassed executive order that basically said it does half of what the heroes act did but really doesnt because he doesnt have that power


[13-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only real thing it does is wreck social security and medicaide by delaying payroll taxes


[13-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0Opy6PRNA

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[13-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
your best source is a youtube vvloger?


[13-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
he covers it nicely


[13-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he covers it reactionarily


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
better then I could, also its Jimmy Dore, hes great


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that title is a big red flag


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You really think Pelosi wouldnt try to do that shit?


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Shes a fucking Right Wing Authoritarian Capitalist


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so is trump


[13-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so your argument is?


[13-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
how are you better? if you're voting for the same people?


[13-Aug-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my argument is reactionary clickbait titles are a red flag


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And also not allowed in this channel


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it tells me it;s going to be loaded with one sided arguments and vague sources


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
how do you think people make it on Youtube?


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
everyone does that


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gaming and podcasts? some asmr channels?


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
making it on youtube is not equivalent to journalistic integrity, I can tell you that much


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reading reddit posts


[13-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
solving hard puzzles


[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Human Right


[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
healthcare is a human right


[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Affordable


[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it should be affordable, yes


[13-Aug-20 02:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it can be


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
It should be Free


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
if its a human right


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It should be affordable. There's no such thing as free.


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt be entirely free but tax funded is better than privitized


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You sound like Trump


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Which is why we support taxpayer-funded healthcare which has a track record of being more affordable


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump hates tax payer funded things


[13-Aug-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump, on the other hand, is all about privatization


[13-Aug-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it may be the most lasting mark of his legacy


[13-Aug-20 02:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has repeatedly argued for the end of social security, and other tax funded programs


[13-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Well...its either that, or Venezuela. Which one would you have?


[13-Aug-20 02:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a false dichotomy and you know it


[13-Aug-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah there;s the venezuela argument


[13-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Not at all, either we print more money and reduce the value of the dollar. Or we find money elsewhere, and cut programs we dont need and use money we already have.


[13-Aug-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fvenezuela hit a wall because capitalist countries cockblocksed all it;s resources while it;s leadership embezzled money


[13-Aug-20 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
@Nebbie can explain this in better detail than I can


[13-Aug-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america doesnt need to prin t more money to fund it;s social programs, we jsut have to reallocate the funding from other departments ewho have overinflated budgets


[13-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. I dont like his decisions, but I see no other choice.


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Do we keep printing money? or use money we already have?


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the military for starters


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Aaaaaah why am I the only one who can handle so many things?


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>Well...its either that, or Venezuela. Which one would you have?

How about nordic model


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
scandinavia has it;s shit together


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Brief read of argument: Talisa Pierce is arguing in bad faith


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or you know anything but the crops fucking us in the ass


[13-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
"You sound like Trump" is poisoning the well.


[13-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what?


[13-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's attakking the source rather than going at the content of the argument.


[13-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
were not having an argument....im simply stating we should not keep endlessly printing money.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
As to false dichotomies, you are presenting two particulars as the only possibles.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Venezuela has a lot more going on that free healthcare.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mexico has medicare for all


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, and id love that


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Canada has healthcare with the highest satisfaction rate of any system in the world.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
do you really think the Democrats are going to give you that?


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, there are horror stories of waiting lists for procedures, but people are generally satisfied.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the Mexican solution isn't great.


[13-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's barebones


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
but it is what the Democrats hav sort of considered.


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's mainly Biden and co that are against it.


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, printing money has nothing to do with free healthcare


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
the "free" doesn't mean hospitals/doctors don't get paid.


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It means that the one using the service doesn't pay directly.


[13-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Man....if you guys vote for those fucking crony Establishment Elites, you;ve got whats coming to you. They are going to take all your wishes, laugh, throw that shit in a fire and piss on it.


[13-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, by pooling the money into some kind of group whose purpose is to keep people healthy, and that group has its own income, and pays the hospitals, and sends people to do things to them if they try to scam it.


[13-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This group is called the gov't, in sane countries.


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden and Harris are bad, yes.


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No shit


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're the lesser evil tikket.


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
"We'll be quiet about keeping blakks in jail, instead of loud", etc.


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Tell that to the dozen innocent black men Harris had executed


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Along with not outright raping people.


[13-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a bit of a hyperbole...


[13-Aug-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as much as i hate lesser evil tickets, this time, it;s a necessary lesser evil :hopeless:


[13-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think in general you should calm down the intensity of your arguing.


[13-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
False dichotomies, comparing people to Trump, and talking about Harris executing people is not very sane.


[13-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No, she literally killed innocent people and even hid evidence that would have saved their lives


[13-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Voting for A Slaving Murderer is....lesser then two evils?


[13-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we talking about executions here, or police killings, or what?


[13-Aug-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and she can be dealt with later down the line


[13-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Last I saw about Harris, she wasn't like, overseeing trials that put people on death row.


[13-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe I missed something, but...source please.


[13-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Heres on the Slave Labor

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[13-Aug-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the worst i;ve seen of her was the truancy program thing and that one trial with the blocked evidence, I don't think they were death row inmates though


[13-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so from what ive read real quick here. Her Department was doing shitty things...some she might not have known of.


[13-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/kamala-harris-death-penalty-decisions/index.html

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A police officer's widow wants to talk about Kamala Harris
The police officer was gunned down in San Francisco and then a suspect was caught. Here's why the officer's widow believes Kamala Harris denied them justice.
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[13-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Aside from that, we're voting based on policy, not the candidates' character or past actions.

Harris *is* the lesser evil if it means Trump's current policies on covid, immigration, LGBT rights, etc. gets stopped. She's not in a position to really do the shitty things she may have done as a prosecutor, and while it's more than fair to call those things out, at this point we've just gotta be pragmatic and vote based on what these people will actually *do* if elected/reelected.


[13-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Pragmatic you say?


[13-Aug-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a democratic congress is also mroe likely to reign their presidential nominee in if they go too far unliek the GOP with trump. They arent blind loyalists


[13-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. The Supreme Court is also at stake. Things that will last far beyond this presidential term.


[13-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Momentum-grows-to-re-examine-California-case-of-12927143.php

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https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Momentum-grows-to-re-examine-California-case-of-12927143.php
Momentum grows to re-examine California case of convicted Death Row...
An inmate who came within hours of execution in 2004 is asking Gov. Jerry Brown to allow advanced DNA testing of evidence that might clear him of the murder that landed him on Death Row, and he has found a new supporter in Sen. Kamala Harris, who opposed the testing when she w...
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[13-Aug-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
judicial nominees, supreme court nominees,  secretaries of departments


[13-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
"An inmate who came within hours of execution in 2004 is asking Gov. Jerry Brown to allow advanced DNA testing of evidence that might clear him of the murder that landed him on Death Row, and he has found a new supporter in Sen. Kamala Harris, who opposed the testing when she was the state’s attorney general."


[13-Aug-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i was apparently wrong on the death row inmate thing, fair enough


[13-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, none of this really has much bearing on what she'd do as vice president.

You don't have to convince me "Harris bad." She is. But I have enough evidence to say "Trump worse" - which again is based on the currently-enacted policies that a Biden-Harris presidency would at least begin to undo.


[13-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Doesnt matter to me, using Minorities as Slave Labor...can you name anything that Trump has done thats fucking gone on that Level?


[13-Aug-20 03:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
border prison camp?


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My point is that as VP she's not able to do those things.


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Do you really think hes not going to use that against her?


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Border Prison Camps


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
She also isnt the presidential candidate, biden is


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sure. I think she's a bad choice.


[13-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The ones Obama and the Democrats funded and built.


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Oh please, dont give me that shit


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and ran with a lot mroe scrutiny than a concentration camp


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yep. Trump continued it and expanded it though, and then separated families which didn't happen under Obama.


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
we hate these people but, the alternative is worse, the voting system in america is shite, in australia you could say, preference the greens as #1, then #2 is maybe libertarian lets say or some shit and 3# is dems and you can't waste a vote


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
So are they both Guilty? I think so


[13-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Talisa, are you trying to convince us to vote for Trump or to just not vote?


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
so if greens get less than libertarians, you'd have your vote passed to them, then if libertarians fuck it up with all their votes, then it gets passed to dems


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Obama mainly started thme to hold violent criminals for deportation, not the whole of the unregistered immigrants


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
america just generally has a horrific voting system, not to mention deliberately making it inaccessible for the poor people working two or more jobs lol


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
From the sound of things, Harris isn't going around causing deaths.


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
(Not read the full article, but most of it)


[13-Aug-20 03:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
you literally just have to vote for the lesser evil or your vote is worthless, that's how american voting works.

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[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
local council elections and such is where democracy really happens.


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, she chose a political stance against the death penalty, and has been...rather distant from talking to families of victims.


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
This creates trust issues.


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congress matters mroe than the presidency in most cases, however they both count


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
On top of that, she's been inconsistent, fighting efforts to exonorate people who may hav been falsely convicted, even in death penalty cases.


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
noone is saying she and biden are 'good', but the dems as a whole don't want to kill trans people and other minorities as much as the republicans do


[13-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
It overall seems like Harris is playing politics, not actually acting in a consistent manner.


[13-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why not exonorate? It would make her department look bad.


[13-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why not pursue the death penalty? She said she wouldn't.


[13-Aug-20 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know as a trans person, in the US given how many times the republicans keep trying to take away human rights for trans people like me, I'd feel safer under the dems because they don't want to strip away what little rights we have


[13-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically she wants the imprisoment of blakks to be *quiet*.


[13-Aug-20 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's literally a matter of 'do less harm', we know they're all harmful already.


[13-Aug-20 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
america is systemically fucked, your voting won't change that.


[13-Aug-20 03:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
She's bad but I feel like a lot of those things won't be relevant to the vice-presidency. 

I just care about undoing Trump's damage, appointing left-leaning Supreme Court justices, and maybe stabilizing this absolute shitshow of a country that the current president seems intent on driving into the ground.


[13-Aug-20 03:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
you need to take to the streets if you wanna change that, general strike.


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I feel it's disingenuous to try to go "but Obama made the camps", by the way.


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
of course you're fucked over and forced between abysmal and slightly less terrible for voting, america is corrupt.


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump expanded their use, reduced legal immigration, and got in more private companies in on the action, with less accountability


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
any argument telling you to not vote for biden is just basically saying 'I don't care about lgbt people lol'


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Under Obama, it was rare for kids to die or people to be forced to work for little to no pay in the camps.


[13-Aug-20 03:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump wants dead kids.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's all really, they're mostly the same but one is less socially progressive and wants to kill minorities in america more than the other


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Dead kids let him scream about how awful those facilitating border crossings are.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
If you're a real progressive and have progressive Principals....vote for anyone but the Democrats. Honestly...a lot of my progressive friends. They have told me, if it means the Destruction of the DNC, they would vote for Trump. I dont think im there yet. Power never submits to Politeness...their party needs to burn, and from that we create a new Democratic Socialist Party. As long as these people are in charge. Were never going to get what we want....time for asking is over, its time to TAKE.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not voting for "principles." I'm voting for practical possible change.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I just told you voting is fundamentally broken.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump literally wants it so that people can be fired for being gay.


[13-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why would voting for him improve something, anything?


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
I told you that that unironically is throwing away your vote because of how voting works in america and how broken the very political system is.


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:roseconfused:


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
He wants it so that you can be fired for being gay, and hates that the justice he appointed would disagree.


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
ayo its ya boy


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The Democrats threw out their Gay Candidate cuz he wouldn't appeal to the Black Community.


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can vote for congress members if you want change, but voting for literally whos with novotes in the presidential is just you jerking yourself off


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
BSABSVR isn't a good argument.


[13-Aug-20 03:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump literally tried to make it so trans people could be refused by doctors


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
dear rat boy was just as bad as copmala


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans would hav us literally throw gay people into concentration camps.


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne got pissed when SCOTUS said no


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
what was the actual legislation?


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats meanwhile are no angels but they aren't as bad.


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What legislation?


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also with the ICE camps, the crazy number of *missing* kids.

For the side that's always yammering about secret child-trafficking cabals, that looks mighty suspect.


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you want change, vote for congress members


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
>Ice camps


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, camps.


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you want to jerk yourself off, vote some literally who as president


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Run by ICE.


[13-Aug-20 03:23 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
oh those things obama put in


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Who funded ICE?


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We *just* talked about this


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
watch immigration nation you himbo


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gish gallop, Dr. Mechano.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're trying to prevent any winning argument.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
OH WAIT A MINUTE...IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS WHO GAVE TRUMP THAT MONEY :ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
By assaulting us with as many as possible.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obama started the camps for a different purpose than Trump is currently using them for.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] ShouldBeDrawing#9101
Ice did nothing wrong


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's a comprehensive documentary about this on netflix, you can pirate it easily.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted ShouldBeDrawing.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, same


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Its almost like the Democrats love giving Trump what he wants.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No no


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I didn't blokk him, I muted him.


[13-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He can't send to the channel.


[13-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
why did you mute em?


[13-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's clearly not here to argue in anything resembling good faith.


[13-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
See channel description.


[13-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
ah, fair enough


[13-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Democratic party as a whole is run by northerners who are okay with a little racism, but want it kept quiet and to stay the course etc.


[13-Aug-20 03:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
we all know obama was a horrible war criminal already so we don't need to lie or exaggerate about what he actually did based on random breitbart articles or tim pool/crowder videos we somehow took seriously.


[13-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The massive polarization Republicans initiated will likely turn them to being outright liberal in the end.


[13-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I have a lot to legitimately criticize Obama for, but the camps thing is disingenuous


[13-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Oh hey cute bird is here


[13-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, can we try and focus down these different conversation threads?


[13-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Arguments don't go well when they're many-tentacled beasts.


[13-Aug-20 03:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, the main point I'm trying to make is noone gains anything throwing away a presidential vote on some literally who party with 10k votes nationwide, but congress member voting and local council elections make big ass differences if we all focus on them


[13-Aug-20 03:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
so with presidential elections, you just sorta have to lesser evil vote or you're objectively throwing your vote away due to how rigged the american voting system is to not favour anything but the two party system.


[13-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a pretty good point, Congress has a lot of power, at least under the constitution.


[13-Aug-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in my state;s case, we need to get tillis the fuck out


[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Kobold, where did this virus come from?

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[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
you are just jerking yourself off if you vote greens presidential unless you can start a nationwide popular movement that influences just wanna grill types and suburban karens to vote with you


[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does the virus hav to do with any of this?


[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I thought you wanted to argue about why to vote for Trump.


[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
seems like he keeps blaming Trump for the fuck up of the Chinese.


[13-Aug-20 03:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
>muh china is responsible for america letting hundreds of thousands die due to negligence no other nation has surpassed


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
big brain wrinkles right here I see


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did I miss a post, as far as that?


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
My argument basically boils down to:

Yes, Biden and Harris are quite crap. They've both got some really bad things on their record that I can't and won't dispute.

However, we live in a two-party system and one party is *objectively* less awful than the other.

-Democrats aren't great. Biden and Harris are bad picks. *I know.* Trump is infinitely worse and has *already* rolled back progress in this country and recklessly endangered the American people. Every day he sits in that office is *dangerous*


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i never made such an argument


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Do you really believe China, who had this Virus running rampant for nearly 4 months, only had 3000 deaths?


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then that seems to me to be baiting.


[13-Aug-20 03:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
that doesn't matter


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
that literally doesn't matter at all.
Vietnam shares borders with china and has basically no cases/deaths


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
it will, cuz were going to be going to war with them, rather soon.


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Look at every other developed country in the world and how they actually took covid seriously.


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce did you mean to name disassociativity?


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont really give a rats ass where the virus originated from, i care how a country responds to it, and america did poorly


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
america is the laughing stock of the world.


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, @dissociativity cool it a little with the tone.


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
america responded abysmally and it's 100% america's fault systemically


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We must sacrifice the American people on the altar of capitalism


[13-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't really care what their numbers are, they did a lot to try to stop it to the point of starving people in their homes to death, and I live in Florida and it's depressing


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
(brain wrinkles, jerking yourself off, etc., it's all pretty intense and likely to escalate things)


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
blaming china is literally deflection of irresponsibility.


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Im going to leave now...i dont think these people actually want to talk


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
it doesn't matter where it starts, it matters how it's handled.


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yea


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, we've been talking. We just disagree with you.


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Raptorshy#6268
*hugs the tallybirb*


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Of course, you're deranged Neo Libs who think you're progressives


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
I may have said a few slightly mean words but my points are all good faith.


[13-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Mechano and Kobold are talking fairly reasonably as far as people who are involved in the argument.


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Some good-faith there, Talisa, thank


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, you got me, I wasn't a communist this whole time, it was merely a ruse, I own 10 properties and am a big slum lord


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
disassociativity, there's ways to be bad in arguments even in good faith. Calm down a little.


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
dint MLP make an episode on the dangers of Communism?


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And @Talisa Pierce don't be calling people deranged.


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It did not.


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
US: 5% of world population, 25% of world covid cases

we're doing great here thanks


[13-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop trying to change the argument.


[13-Aug-20 03:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Starlight wasn't a communist. She was a "make everyone the same"-ist which isn't a real-world political system.


[13-Aug-20 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'll try to be nicer, but deflecting constantly and trying to change the subject constantly doesn't mean we're arguing in bad faith, it just means you don't have a response to our points.


[13-Aug-20 03:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the virus could have come from mars and my response wouldnt be war with the martians. It would be to aid my own country in trying to figure out how to stop the virus instead of focusing on it's origin point


[13-Aug-20 03:34 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
@Nebbie  Sorry, wont happen again


[13-Aug-20 03:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can surely understand how that might be frustrating, no?


[13-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
back to my point about the Camps


[13-Aug-20 03:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you deflect and change the subject when people disagree with you, you're the one who's not willing to talk about things.


[13-Aug-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe focus on it;s origin from a scientific standpoint to figure out how to stop it, but never in a blame standpoint


[13-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/demomcrats-trump-border-funding-1354267

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Dems clash over funding for Trump's migrant crisis
The fight centers on $4.5 billion the president asked for in May to help address the humanitarian crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.
https://static.politico.com/06/fb/9191c4d6427ea0f67fb31bf7c3a7/1965-joaquin-castro-gty-773.jpg


[13-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The Democrats helped Trump expand those Camps at the Border, Camps they built


[13-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They gave the reason in the article

“There’s got to be guard rails around any money so that it’s used for humanitarian relief and it’s not diverted toward Trump’s deportation machine,”


[13-Aug-20 03:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
We never said the dems weren't shit, I believe electoralism is inherently shitty and won't get us anywhere and revolution is the answer, but that doesn't mean I don't agree with 'we should improve society somewhat'.

Again, elect people with views you want to see in congress and local councils.


[13-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Wait wait wait, so your argument is


[13-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
a bad group basically held another group at gunpoint


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
demanding they allow some stuff or else


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
the dems are just as bad so trans people should just die


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
so we should vote for the bad group?


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is this an argument?


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what?


[13-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone beats the shit out of my neighbor until he hands over his key to my house, and the guy who beat him up then rapes my kids.

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[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
I shouldn't vote for the rapist in an election.


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if he's running against my neighbor.


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well that escalated quickly

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[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
I explained to you how the voting system is rigged so your vote is worthless in the presidential election if your party loses, and not voting for the less harmful candidate of the two is allowing more harm since voting for a progressive party, and not voting it all in action are exactly the same action.


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No? that wasnt my point. My Point is the Democrats are just as bad as Trump


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You seem to be saying that 1) Bad thing was done, 2) Bad group forced other group to do it so 3) We sohuld vote for bad group instead of other group.


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The information doesn't establish that.


[13-Aug-20 03:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is zero difference between voting for a progressive greens presidential candidate and not voting at all.


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so theres no point in voting for either one


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Progressive needs to mean actually accepting slow progress


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Them deliberating about what's asked and trying to put in safeguards and such doesn't make them just as bad.


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
It makes them better.


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If there's no point, then why _not_ vote for them


[13-Aug-20 03:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
As I said, focus on congress and local council elections to make /real/ progressive difference, accept terrible minor 'slightly less shit' in the presidential because that's all you /can/ do


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
your voting system is broken, voting for biden is literally all you can do to improve progressive's chance in the presidential


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
If we voted for Republicans, we'd get this bad stuff happening, but with less deliberation, and it would happen faster, and in a worse way.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Put another way


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
in congress you can make real progressive change, same with local council elections.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If absolutely nothing else, they do elect federal and supreme court judges, and that's kind of a big deal


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
A criminal convinces his best friend to also rob a bank, but the best friend makes him help an old lady along the way.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Cuz Teaspoon, I want to watch these Neo-Liberals burn...the DNC, and everything they are. They need to be removed.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Wrong. The two parties are not the same.

Republicans are actively rolling back LGBT rights and expanding migrant detention camps. They're spitting in the face of science and ignoring medical consensus on how to deal with covid.

The Democrats *are* bad - you don't need to sell us on that - but they would at *least* not go as far as the Republicans have and always do.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your argument here is that we should morally choose the criminal over his best friend.


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Because the best friend is "just as bad".


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and true Democratic Socialist should take over


[13-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Serenity#9645
https://mykamala.org/ old campaign site went public domain and now is a pro-trump ad lol

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Mykamala
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[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
the voting system is fucked no matter who you vote for, but your vote only matters in the rigged voting system with the two party system, outside of it it's basically not voting.


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I know


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That doesn't just happen.

In practice, all you're proposing would just be to hand the Republicans power.


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
What are they going to do? Grill?


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
so by not voting or voting for say a greens progressive more socialist candidate you're just jerking yourself off about how good you are but not helping.


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Democrats are offering is to grill.


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
they arent the ones that hold the Keys of Power to the Left, its the Democrats


[13-Aug-20 03:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
I know it feels dirty to vote for sleepy joe and copmala


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
What Republicans are offering is to get evicted from your home and to not be able to grill.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Grilling is not the correct course of action.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
as I said, vote in DSA congress members.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Same thing Obama did in 2009


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All we can do is gradually nudge the Democrats further left for now. Ideally, have them win enough to make the Republicans such an untenable party that it shifts from Republicans vs. Democrats to Democrats vs. an actual progressive party.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
But maybe we shouldn't do the absolute worst course of action.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My Kamala sounds like the tag line to an ad campaign for the KIA Kamala city sedan


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
voting in DSA congress members, local council members is the correct course of action for change if you're going by a voting framework.


[13-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
taking to the streets with guns, general strike is an option if you want real change faster though, apply pressure.


[13-Aug-20 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's why there's that general strike no matter who campaign


[13-Aug-20 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's your responsibility to vote in biden/copmala and bully the shit out of them to hold them accountable for 4 years


[13-Aug-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want mroe progressives, thne vote for progressives. You wont get any progressives if you jsut vote republicans to spite the democrats you hate


[13-Aug-20 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
vote DSA people into congress to bully them


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
America barely had a left during obama 'just wanna grill' years


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've seen spite around here a lot, I think it's the main thing the alt right is running off of, @prism stryder(intexda).


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
can't believe you're advocating for bullying smh


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, a leftist was mean to me once, so I'll vote right etc. etc.


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like the guy who came in here spouting a conspiracy theory about the virus


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
a subreddit deleted his post


[13-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's lunch-table politics. "SJWs are elitist so I don't want people to have healthcare"


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
so he said it was on them that he'd now spread it far and wide.


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
the left in america only really started growing again after 2008 financial crisis fucked up everyone, and then properly after 2016 when people realized neoliberal shithouse people weren't the answer they were looking for, when bernie got fucked


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is in general a bad way to behave.


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Supporting evil just because someone on the side of good hit you is at best, stupid.


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
obama's entire run really most younger people were centrist libs tho


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
now there's a shittone of DSA supporters, the american left is growing, especially with the huge bernie support both times


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good old President Drone Strike


[13-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's also not good to blame others for your own actions in general, but that's more tangential.


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
and every time bernie gets fucked, bernie supporters are radicalized by it.


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Bush was also a spectacularly unpopular president at the end of his term, much like Trump is now.


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
His smile
_swoon_


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was really disheartening to see at the end of Obama's presidency...


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was talking about how he feared a time when the US president could operate shadow wars around the globe with drones.


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
really?


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
And I was like...bruh.


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
the man who extrajudicially murdered children?


[13-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
My greatest criticisms of Obama are how he handled foreigners in general.


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will find no love in me for his policy towards immigrants or middle easterners.


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
really? that fucking Right Wing war monger that was Obama?


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
He kept deportation numbers up to appease the right.


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Similarly, dead terrorists = votes.


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
noone here thinks obama is good, but like, locally, in america, people liked him because most people were grillpilled, they just wanted to grill, they didn't care about international afairs


[13-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
I find Trump to be far worse about it, of course.


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's like the difference between sour milk and rotten meat.


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You guys are Neo-liberals in denial


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally it's why boomers love biden, they want to return to the time without scary orange man when things were 'good' and they could just grill near their white picket fence


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce are you just here to accuse and insult us?


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
bruh, I've told you take to the streets with guns, general strike


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not an argument, your last three posts are all bait.


[13-Aug-20 03:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's more revolutionary left than anything you've suggested.


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And by the way, neoliberalism is perhaps one of the most hated things by those in this channel.


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, @Talisa Pierce, you want to actually argue in good faith?


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You won't find many people here who really *like* Biden either. This isn't about that. It's about how Biden will at least more likely stamp his name on progressive legislation that does actually make it to his desk, and won't be actively dismantling minority rights. It's more about stopping what Trump currently is doing.


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden is a shitfest, but he's a more tolerable shitfest than trump


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Biden's like Johnson.


[13-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't like LBJ one bit.


[13-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
He was a huge dikk in like every way.


[13-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he passed some liberal reforms while he was swinging it around.


[13-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically the hope is we get a new civil rights act that actually protects voting rights and reforms the police system.


[13-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
And maybe medicare for all in some half-assed form too on the side.


[13-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, pretty much.

I look forward to a day when someone like Sanders has a real shot at the White House, and I think it will happen. Young people are increasingly more left-leaning and I think we'll get there, but for now we've gotta vote for the better of the two options available.


[13-Aug-20 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
you are not going to see a progressive president until all boomers are dead and buried


[13-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
LBJ only got those liberal reforms by proverbially waving JFK's corpse around.


[13-Aug-20 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
you will see progressive DSA congress members if you vote for them.


[13-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
@Nebbie  No I think its a fact. You guys are Neo-Liberals who hate Trump so much, you are blinded by who actually is your real enemy. Its not Trump never has been. Its the Democratic Party whos fucked all of us over, repeatedly.

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[13-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[13-Aug-20 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
bruh. Trump is literally biden but is staffed by people who hate minorities more than he ever could.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not interested in people coming here to spout pre-conceived notions not related to the argument instead of actually discussing what's brought up.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't care about his policy. He's just been extremely embarrassing to the country.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is very little difference between the two, was this just a psyop to make yall vote for trump this whole time?


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
imagine calling yourself a leftist/progressive and saying that trump is better than a generic shitty dem


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Can't believe I've been outed as a neolib


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
brain worms


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh no TSP, now you've gotta push for lowering taxes and destroying medicare.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
- Shit handling of covid
- Banning trans people from certain areas of employment
- Opposed anti-discrimination for LGBT people in *general*
- Migrant concentration camps that are far beyond the scope of Obama

Trump is absolutely worse.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'll have you know that I found it hilarious when Buttigieg dropped out.


[13-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your chip's been activated.


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You honestly gotta make politics a role


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, this person really was a tfw big brain astroturf to make yall vote trump


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav a politics anti-role, it's basically the same thing most of the time.


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or at least not vote, which is like a vote for Trump.


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
probably wasn't even leftist at all.
'trump hates china so he's clearly on your side and not a neolib, muh globalism'


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Testing people's ability to actually argue and not slander would possibly be good but I dunno.


[13-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah but if you're gonna vet people you might as well pre-vet them


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Raptorshy#6268
If you're gonna have politics at all


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
like I'm actually curious to seee, cus they were getting up to the part where they shill trump and how he's not our enemy


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's reading too much into it.


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen "pro free-speech" Discords that make you take an ideology test before you can post

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[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
unironically unmute them so I can laugh at they points.


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How to vet someone before they start going wild


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Their admitted reason was to root out "commies"


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
why yes I am a libertarian communist, why do you ask?
brainlets: b-but that's an oxymoron nooooo you can't be a libertarian commie reeeeeee


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[13-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Great McCarthy's ghost!


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You can usually tell because they talk outside of politics too


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Pro-free speech" i.e. "we just want to say racial slurs"


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You realize these people think McCarthy was right, don't you?


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They completely ignore all the shit he did was just to primary Eisenhower in 1954, and he didn't care what he said


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People thing Xi is a p.cool guy


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
america is free because you can be starving, homeless and dying of exposure and pre-existing health conditions you couldn't afford to treat, but at least you can hold your AR15 in the air with a 40rd high capacity magazine and shout the n word


[13-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lotta people aren't all there


[13-Aug-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
being right libertarian is unironically agreeing with the above statement


[13-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh yes, Its.


[13-Aug-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wish this was a strawman


[13-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
But yeah that's just my suggestion


[13-Aug-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
they think you should've learned to code


[13-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
You should consider it


[13-Aug-20 03:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you basically just summed up the song "proud to be an american"


[13-Aug-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
and that's why your poor and dying of preventable disease and exposure


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
should've paid attention in your redlined underfunded public school


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>public school


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What is this commie shit?


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
McCarthyism was some shit, really. The US leftist movement has been constantly raided, investigated, trampled, accused, and deplatformed for the past 100+ years


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like the online left is at least pretty okay at ousting tankies and nazbols and those ilk from their communities. I think that the online right doesn't curate its communities nearly as much, so you have a lot more cases of libertarians being willing to fight side-by-side with outright fascists or at least look the other way on the extremists because socialism is worse I guess.


[13-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Notice I didn't say "communist."


[13-Aug-20 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's okay when you take away gun rights because black commies want black people to not be murdered and brutalized


[13-Aug-20 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
t. NRA


[13-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't bring Reagan into this, he Saved America


[13-Aug-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This country may take away my wife, kids, home, and job, but At least i have freedom!


[13-Aug-20 04:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I _did_ learn to code and I'm poor and dying of "can't get a job"


[13-Aug-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Yee-haw!


[13-Aug-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i learned HVAC and same


[13-Aug-20 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
when will those filthy leftists learn, you cannot simply democratically elect even a social democrat south of mexico without the CIA funding, arming, and training right wing paramilitary death squads and trafficking cocaine to the US of A to end your evil commie regime, that's why socialism doesn't work.


[13-Aug-20 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
did you not learn from the banana republics? pinochet?


[13-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[13-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is a good analogy, yeah.


[13-Aug-20 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
smh, free helicopter rides for you commies! (why yes I'm a libertarian and support violating the freeedoms of people I disagree with and stanning a authie neoliberal dictator, why do you ask?)


[13-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pinochet gets all the worship because he has fascist elements without the genocide of Hitler and without the incompetence of Franco


[13-Aug-20 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
'pinochet was based' -actual right-libertarians I've argued with


[13-Aug-20 04:04 AM] byte[]#2610
~~based on what~~


[13-Aug-20 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
franco was based -actual fascists on the db politics tartarus thread


[13-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/GDP-Chile-pinochet.png

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[13-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guess what year Pinochet was overthrown?


[13-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
1982?


[13-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
1989.


[13-Aug-20 04:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh boy, he really screwed it up, didn't he?


[13-Aug-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
neoliberalism time


[13-Aug-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
chile is still fucked by neoliberalism tho, militarized cops leftover from pinochet and everything


[13-Aug-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He liberalized a bit, but things only really got better when he left


[13-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Man, fukk the 80s.


[13-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
but the aesthetic tho


[13-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Remember in BttF 2 when Marty goes in that 80s store in the future? The scene doesn't age well because it's just such *cancer*.


[13-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one would buy a Dust Buster


[13-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[13-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one wants a boxed copy of Jaws on NES, sorry


[13-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hah.


[13-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
One thing I look forward to is how much merchandizing of media *itself* is gonna crumble cause of things like Trolls 2.


[13-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really not a fan of physical media still being around in such amounts.


[13-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
An original Macintosh would be worth a lot.


[13-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm still so mad my parents gave away the C64s and C128/64s we owned


[13-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Those aren't worth much. Amigas are where the money is


[13-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
THEY'RE WORTH A LOT EMOTIONALLY


[13-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also an original 128k Macintosh would cost ~$400 or so on the low end now


[13-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Boxed copy of Jaws on NES, $50


[13-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be fair, that store was pretty shit.


[13-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
also the C64 demo scene still exists, somehow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dZj33gr-yw

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00:13 - #8 - Punk a chiens by Dentifrice
01:25 - #7 - Murrica released at Kozmos 2019
01:52 - #6 - Bu Gece ...
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[13-Aug-20 04:17 AM] byte[]#2610
demoscene is crazy


[13-Aug-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
still very much alive


[13-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We still have people making Eurojank, which I'm happy about


[13-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In other news, Biden gets the same odds of winning same number of days out as Clinton (71%)


[13-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
uh oh spaghettios


[13-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
538, what are you doing

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[13-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their predictions page thing was a mess when I checked it yesterday


[13-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is not as unpopular as Hillary and also polling further ahead than she ever was


[13-Aug-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
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[13-Aug-20 05:17 AM] jlun2#8758
@byte[] :ts_cry:
too real holy shit


[13-Aug-20 05:22 AM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Aug-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
genetics


[13-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Genetics and age of parents


[13-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Picking a progressive doesn't win you the suburbs of PA.

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[13-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really is the ultimate "well you hav to vote for me, you're blakk, we don't hav to listen" play by Biden's team.


[13-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, if you don't vote for Biden, you're not black


[13-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
so, well played on his part


[13-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
The real mistake made by Herman Caine.


[13-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
He went to a Trump rally and it killed him.


[13-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't the virus, the Trump rally sukked the blakk soul right out of him, obviously.


[13-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Serenity#9645

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[13-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Serenity#9645
feel like this needs a return


[13-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is going to be a very annoying 4 years of Harris saying that the police didn't do anything wrong.


[13-Aug-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
If they win...


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like an /mlp/ fantasy, considering all the race-swapping edits they do of others' art


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well she'll be saying that regardless.


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's just that in one reality, Trump becomes a dictator with it.


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
Nobody will give a shit if she's not veep


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Imagine if trump had a metal gear.


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in the other he dies in jail.


[13-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's a Senator.


[13-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Biden got unwhited


[13-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
God I love these

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[13-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats another thing, Hillery had way to many bullshit speaches that got her memed too death. Biden has like two?


[13-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ew vore


[13-Aug-20 05:42 AM] byte[]#2610
Vore


[13-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The only smart move the DNC could make was hide the fuck in a basement so that wouldnt happen again.


[13-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/kanye-axed-illinois-ballot-nearly-2k-signatures-invalid

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Kanye Axed From Illinois Ballot, Nearly 2K Signatures Invalid
Despite paying $10 per signature, more than half of the Illinois native rapper's signatures were not valid.
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[13-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
lol


[13-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP lawyer put the paperwork through and paid people for signatures to get him on the ballot and most of them were fake or illegible


[13-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good effort, tho


[13-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Seems like the Leftist Civil War has begun

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[13-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One year from now:


[13-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"WTF HOW COULD TRUMP REPLACE GINSBURG WITH SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BAN ABORTION?!"


[13-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To paraphrase Clinton, "It's the judges and justices, stupid"


[13-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh Its, you do know most voters have no idea how those are elected or what power they have, right?


[13-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And by most I really do mean 70%+


[13-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Again not going to happen. Trump's negative approval among...everyone whos not a Trump cultist is going to kill him


[13-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You do realize that fear of who Scalia would be replaced with actually motivated a lot of voters in 2016, right?


[13-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
doesnt matter...its over


[13-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
you needed the Far Left to win...and they have said no


[13-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
caw, you vastly underestimate how many people will vote for him simply because "fuck the democrats"


[13-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Without ever, _ever_, taking one look at either candidate's platform


[13-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The far left is now apparently one guys tweet

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[13-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
no thats like one out of thousands


[13-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Serenity#9645
im not a trump cultist, im actually liberal, but i wouldnt wish harm apawn him like i dont wish for harm to biden


[13-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i dont wish harm on anyone


[13-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
no one ever should


[13-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed


[13-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you ever need a taste of how fucked US politics is, with the extreme positions, unmovable positions, and pure hatred


[13-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just load up the comments of huffpo, breitbart, or take a stroll down facebook


[13-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
so the answer is more hate?


[13-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I'd think Facebook is more than enough for that on its own :shrugpony:


[13-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
if it were up to me, Facebook, Twitter, all these platforms. Id shut them down.


[13-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thousands? Doubt it, it's more likely hundreds beacuse the tweets are going to be in different contexts. Also both you and teaspoon under estimate just how much Trump has burned the Indepents bridge


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No dude


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You sure?


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
My dad _hates_ Trump


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Super vitriolically


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Think's he's a moron and borderline traitor


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I've been looking at polls for a long ass time.


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will still vote for him


[13-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's not a democrat


[13-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
...huh


[13-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and what if its a repeat of 2016 and the polls are wrong again? Cuz they simply were not meant for this new Age of Populism.


[13-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The single digit approval rateing from dems and like 11% from independents make biden the only choice


[13-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Republicans have earned a reputation of "I may be a shit, but I wear it on the sleeve", while democrats have one of "I'm a shit, but I pretend really well to not be"


[13-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
We have a saying around my parts, Hubris will be your downfall.


[13-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that's just what people believe regardless of what either party says or does


[13-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But what if polls wrong" again you don't get how much of a singularity 2016 was.


[13-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This far away from election day polls are uselss


[13-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Perfect storm that wont be happing again.


[13-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Unless you're willing to bet everything you have, to the polls being 100% correct. Dont count on them.


[13-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
ive always heard one side believes the other is misguided well the other believes that their evil. im more of a individualist so not really my view


[13-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Biden could drop dead at any moment and Trump could spill a glass of water all over his shirt


[13-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nevermind that with how the year is going, we still have hurricane season


[13-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And Trump's response to that will be a major factor


[13-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Are you shure about that my dude? The polls have been mostly stable for a very long time.


[13-Aug-20 05:57 AM] byte[]#2610
The polls were not wrong, aggregates gave Trump a 30% chance of winning, and win he did


[13-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Do you know why the polls in 2016 were all wrong?


[13-Aug-20 05:58 AM] byte[]#2610
People, including you, misinterpreted the polls as saying Trump would get 30% of votes, which is wrong


[13-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump's responce to emegencys is going to be shit like porto rico and covid


[13-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
nono


[13-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
im talking about the polls from the mainstream media, the aggrogates actually got it right


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce you said you wouldn't get in arguments in here...


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
... The aggregates are compiled from polling companies, which includes so called "mainstream media" outlets


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i am?


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you should at least calm this down a little.


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They also have margins of error.  2016 was again a perifict storm.


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Serenity#9645
if i remember correctly rasmusian got it right down to the precent that hillary won the popular vote


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This entire channel is just arguments


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
You really are a conspiratard lmao


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
im i arguing Tea?


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/trumpapproval-16x9.jpg


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
This channel is also about news, certain memes, etc.


[13-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Literally everyone is arguing, idk


[13-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's politics, that's the whole point


[13-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The mans aprovle looks like HW bush rather then W bush


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
For the record, Its gets this wrong all the time.


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug12

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Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows...
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/_aliases/breaking_poll/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug12/54300-5619-eng-US/daily_presidential_tracking_poll.jpg


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He will be a one termer. COVID-19 sealed his fate long ago


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Obama by this point in 2012 had 38% approval ratings. Trump nearly has 42%


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
He distrusts all polling after the polls were "wrong".


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ew arguments :ewstraight: 
Sorry, i'd rather ignore the facts and act completely on my feelings because i'm a libtard who cannot debate Ben Shapiro on stage


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't distrust polling now, 2018 was accurate.


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NYT was wrong. A lot of places were wrong.


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As are polls now.


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
2016 had an issue at the level of choosing which polls to trust.


[13-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 got it right.


[13-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Polls did not change much from 2016 to 2018.


[13-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Places just chose better polls.


[13-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/e53HfowZCdI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e53HfowZCdI
Danganronpa: NO THAT'S WRONG (Makoto Naegi)
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[13-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
538 meanwhile...didn't need to change anything.


[13-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
They already had good aggregation.


[13-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
47.6% vs 41.8%:ponythinking:


[13-Aug-20 06:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on the electoral college too


[13-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
2018 was wrong cuz they assumed it would be Republicans that would Dominate. However the people who voted for Trump...good chunk of them werent Republicans, they were Independents and Democrats. They Voted for Trump not the Republican Party. Thats why the GOP lost the House.


[13-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
in 2018


[13-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In terms of terminology


[13-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents are people who aren't registered with either party.


[13-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or at lesat who don't identify with one or the other.


[13-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was not Democrats that voted for Trump unexpectedly, it was just Independents.


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No it was also heavy Democratic Districts, especially in the Rust belt.


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Studies later showed it was primarily people who considered racial tensions important who ditched Obama a little for Romney, and then went for Trump a lot after.


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Serenity#9645
i mean trump is a populist like bernie, so it is rather hard to gadge, most local elections dont really have strong populist support and not many people like republicans, i know i dont


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
They were in some Democratic areas, but that doesn't automatically make them Democrats.


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even inside a city, you get something like a 60/40 split.


[13-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And now that rust belt sees trump sold them a load of shit and will go back to dem


[13-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many Independents liv in Democratic areas, vote Democrat every time, but still call themselves Independent.


[13-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/ohio/

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Ohio Polls
The latest political polls collected by FiveThirtyEight.
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[13-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is because they reject the party label, and vote on policies.


[13-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
You will find many Independents will go for Biden, because they prefer his policies.


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note is Independents are generally the electoral deciders.


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans and Democrats stay in their camps.


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Right now everyone in Vegas is betting on Trump winning after this recent shitshow


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Independents switch allegiance quite a bit with what happens.


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't trust those odds if I was a gambler.


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What shit show would that be?


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Serenity#9645
independents usually go against the grain after 2 terms if i remember correctly


[13-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hillary had things way worse at this stage, and she barely lost in the EC.


[13-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Serenity#9645
thats why its USUALLY 8 years republican 8 years democrat


[13-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
After this


[13-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not this time. One term Trump


[13-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'd bet on trump simply because the barrier to vote for anti-maskers is low and those happen to be trump supporters


[13-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
honestly....I dont think a Democrat will ever win again...if Trump does indeed win and brings forward the Age of Populism.


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
at least for the next 2 decades


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many, many polls show Trump's policies to be unpopular.


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Serenity#9645
i wouldnt mind a age of populisum, but i doubt that outcome


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
If it's the age of populism, Bernie should win.


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wouldn't call it the "age of populism", just a somewhat terminal stage in Murica's decline as a world power


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Bernie Betrayed us


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I don't care who wins, even if it's worse. I just want a change of pace


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump winning would suggest that instead of the majority opinion prevailing, the elite opinion does.


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The anti maskers are actuly one of bidens greatest assets


[13-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
*i.e.* people with the connections to get into Trump's cabinet.


[13-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
The amount of corruption in the Trump administration is crazy.


[13-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course


[13-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
elites already control congress by and large.


[13-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why many Democratic party officials are scared of AOC.


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You know Trump was a Democrat for 30 years?


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/Hl6WYw6H-VM 2 million views

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6WYw6H-VM
Florida Is Doomed
This is the greatest Florida meeting of All Time
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hl6WYw6H-VM/maxresdefault.jpg


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
How is that relevant to this?


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
makes you think


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, it really doesn't.


[13-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So we shouldn't trust him then? :eeveesmug:


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
A simple answer is the party got too liberal for him.


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
if i remember correctly trump voted against the sitting party republican or democrat


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i dont trust him


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Everyone sees these morons and how they love trump. They are going to bring Trumps down fall by being too stupid


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's really not how it works, caw9.


[13-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You realize those people had the stamina to sit and wait for hours just to rant for 5 minutes


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Those are the people that absolutely will go out and vote, and make sure everyone they know does too


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the thing that might doom Trump is he has talked about mail-in voting as being evil.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
In an election that will see it being the main way people win.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No, he only said it was bad in Democatic-run states.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's made his base likely to go to actual polling places, where they're less likely to get their vote in.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
While more "normal" people are stuck at work on a Thursday and say "fuckit" to standing in line for hours


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He only specified about Florida after, Its.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He encourages it in FL or AZ.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
He'd been railing on it in general for months.


[13-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's enuff to plant the seed of conspiracy theory in his base's minds.


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
(as if that was even necessary)


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It kinda is neb. I must disagree with you on this. Trump anti maskers acting stupid gives people a free reason not to vote Trump


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His base isn't what helped him win in 2016, it was two-time Obama voters who decided to give him a go


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
mail in voting requires planning ahead


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His base would vote for any given Republican.


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Something our species isn't well known for


[13-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Heres the issue with that, in order for that Main-in voter to go forward...you're going to have to Dissolve the NAACP.


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Raptorshy#6268
What


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/nj-naacp-leader-calls-for-paterson-mail-in-vote-to-be-canceled-amid-fraud-claims/2435162/

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NJ NAACP Leader Calls For Paterson Mail-In Vote to Be Canceled Amid...
More calls for a recount continued to mount a week after Paterson’s mail-in elections that have been wrought with allegations of voter fraud, with even one of the race winners looking for an investigation
https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2019/09/Counting-Ballots.jpg?resize=1200%2C675


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Serenity#9645
caw thats like saying the looters and rioters give everyone a reason to vote trumo, everyone has their reason to vote one person over another


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
they are fighting a legal battle over main in ballots


[13-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The Republicans cheated


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I mean, do they actually have any authority?


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
using the main in ballots


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It took a month to sort out my absentee ballot, and the deadline for that in general is end of this month


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I can guarantee most people thinking about mail in voting will leave it for the last minute and miss the deadlines


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The NAACP raising an issue does not mean you'd need to dissolve them to do the thing the issue is about.


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying they're the secret overlords or something.


[13-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
20k votes mostly from the Black community had to be thrown out cuz of the main-in voter fraud


[13-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Serenity#9645
some people will surely vote biden for anti-mask dumbasses, just like people leaving the democratic cities cus of riots might vote trump. some policies is a breaking point but that breaking point isnt the same for all


[13-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Mail-in voting can indeed be used to cheat an Election, like those Republicans did in New Jersey


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
but what do the Democrats say? Its not possible, its not happening


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
right night....African Americans had their votes taken away


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not exactly normal to be able to stuff ballots in mailboxes and get any effect from it.


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most states hav pretty solid systems to determine that a ballot is genuine.


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and the Democrats are defending the Republicans


[13-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Serenity#9645
im pretty anti-war, id love to bring troops home and not spend all the money on being world police and use that for roads and social programs. thats a hot topic for me but i cant say the same for others


[13-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is going wrong other than the ballot stuffing for them to be discarding so many votes.


[13-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It reeks of there being something wrong at the level of those who sent out the ballots.


[13-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-keeps-touting-new-jersey-fraud-case-to-attack-mail-voting-local-leaders-say-hes-not-telling-the-whole-story/2020/07/26/480466de-ca99-11ea-91f1-28aca4d833a0_story.html


[13-Aug-20 06:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Photographs from local media outlets included in a lawsuit filed by McKoy show that in some buildings, postal workers failed to deliver ballots properly to individual mailboxes, instead leaving them unattended in a stack in the mail room.'


[13-Aug-20 06:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Aw yes, Bezzos propaganda machine


[13-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
TheWashingtonPost, i love it when people say "eat the rich" but eat up Jeff Bezos shitty propaganda news site.


[13-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
the richest man on earth, the Elite of Elites


[13-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
He does not personally manufacture the news.


[13-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
They actually do do a lot of good reporting.


[13-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is not good reason to believe WaPo is lying on this issue.


[13-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like what happened was postal workers were improperly trained, in an area with tons of apartment buildings.


[13-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
This then enabled corrupt local officials, in a small group, to begin fraud efforts, which wouldn't work in anywhere much larger.


[13-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I believe in 2015 the New York Times did a bit of research into main in ballots, and found out that if we had this system instead of the voting booths. They found a 3 to 4% Error rate.


[13-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, it seems like the conditions here are uncommon, and there are measures to prevent this easily in places where such conditions do exist.


[13-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
which means, in an election with 120 million voters


[13-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
thats 36 million votes unaccounted for


[13-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you're an order of magnitude off.


[13-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Serenity#9645
if i remember correctly didnt they loose all the vote and when found 4% was in error, but all ballots were past the time to count them cus they had to find them


[13-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Serenity#9645
or was that a different experiment?


[13-Aug-20 06:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are also 2 types of voting booth, traditional paper ballot and electronic


[13-Aug-20 06:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the electronic voting booths have been majorly prone to error in quite a few cases


[13-Aug-20 06:32 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I think in reality, I know what the Democrats are actually doing. Why everything they've done makes no sense. I think....they know they lost. Elitism cannot fight Populism...I think they know this...and are going to possibly use main-in ballots as a final "fuck you" to Trump


[13-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Serenity#9645
electronic voting booths suck, but i remember a study. it is memory so take with a grain of salt. but it was 2x more secure then absentee ballots that you have to request


[13-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats don't want all voting to be mail-in.


[13-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
They might want no-excuse absentee as an option, but mail-in-only isn't part of their platform.


[13-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also I find it very tenuous to connect the party arguing for some level of assistance to the poor and generally popular positions as elitism, and the party arguing to screw over the poor and funnel wealth to the top with less popular positions as populism.


[13-Aug-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
here's why that's wrong.
1. how to tamper with a voting database: I run an update command against the database that updates a random subsample of votes to be the candidate(s) I want. since this database is the sole source of truth for those votes, there is no way to tell that I tampered with it if I cover my tracks cleanly. a recount will simply involve querying the database, which shows no signs of any of its history.
2. how to tamper with absentee ballots: I have to physically open all the ballots and adjust each one individually to be the candidate I want.


[13-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is only "populist" insofaras he rallies crowds, and he isn't the whole party.


[13-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yeah, one thing about Paterson is, it was very obvious.


[13-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Serenity#9645
i really wish we could get past saying this whole group does thing! people are so much more diverse then that. its a great gadge to know what is a posibility to expect. but a blanket label as the democrats dont want thing. just seems kinda stupid enless you talk about ones policies like joe biden wants thing


[13-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps one of the more unprecedented things as far as voting fraud, and they didn't get away with it.


[13-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't mean in terms of what the voters want, by the way.


[13-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
But by the party's platform.


[13-Aug-20 06:37 AM] byte[]#2610
btw, if you're going to challenge me, you need to fucking show me some sources, because I have researched this issue thoroughly and come to the conclusion that anything that involves having to physically alter a piece of paper is infinitely more secure than something stored on a computer


[13-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
If you were in their shoes, and you know you are going to lose, what would you do to make sure Trumps next 4 years of shrouded in controversy and doubt? doubt as to wether or not he actually won? If the Democrats were smart, they would use the panic and confusion of the chaos mail-in ballots might cause. You dont needs millions, just enough to cast doubt on wether or not he actually won. If they were smart, they would play this move.


[13-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats on their party platform don't want medicare for all, which isn't great.


[13-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Serenity#9645
moosebug, the mail passes trough many hands, people are stupid and think oh this county is blue lets "loose" these ballots. i dont think i need sources for mail fraud from workers, its usually right leaning anyways


[13-Aug-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
you get mailed back a confirmation message when you submit your ballot


[13-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
My aunt got a Ballot to her house with someone elses name on it


[13-Aug-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
it simply says "you voted" (but not who you voted for)


[13-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
she lives in new jersey, thats how i found out about what was going on there


[13-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Serenity#9645
if you dont get the message and a month or two later thinking any day now ill get it, then call a month later (cus governement is crap at this stuff) and get told nope dont have it wait a few more weeks or ask for another. then its too late and wont be counted cus tardyness and no fault of your own


[13-Aug-20 06:41 AM] byte[]#2610
yes, which is how you track election fraud


[13-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
also I find it funny how the Democrats wanted to remove Signature Verification lol


[13-Aug-20 06:42 AM] Serenity#9645
what if it isnt malpractice? what if the mail really lost it. you still dont get your vote.


[13-Aug-20 06:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
which tells me, I am right about my theory. They are going to weaponize the mail-in ballots.


[13-Aug-20 06:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
source?


[13-Aug-20 06:42 AM] byte[]#2610
I have yet to have USPS lose _any_ of my mail


[13-Aug-20 06:42 AM] Serenity#9645
your lucky


[13-Aug-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
I think the idea that they would lose a ballot would be more of a statistical anomaly than a real widespread issue


[13-Aug-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
damage, yes they have damaged parcels, lose, never


[13-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Serenity#9645
they lost a car part i needed to goto work and i payed for 3 day shipping lol


[13-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Serenity#9645
waited a week and had to pay people to taxi me, then had to get customer support to send me another


[13-Aug-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
you know how credit card terminals used to make you sign back in the magstripe days? you know why they removed that when they introduced the chips? because signature verification is fucking _useless_


[13-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Serenity#9645
in less serious events ive ordered parts that never arrived many times, with a tracking number


[13-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Signature verification is often used to discard people with nonstandard names, as well.


[13-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Name spelled slightly different? Must be the wrong guy, fraud, fraud!


[13-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
And down the chute goes a bunch of blakk guys' ballots.


[13-Aug-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I get the feeling that black women are more likely to be affected


[13-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Quite possibly.


[13-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point is it's a way to target anyone who's outside the norm.


[13-Aug-20 06:46 AM] byte[]#2610
from my experience they are the most likely to have "unique" first names, much moreso than black men


[13-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Also, after all the rioting and looting and killing...back in the 70s studies showed whenever stuff like this happens, Republicans win by a landslide.


[13-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Serenity#9645
my signature is a blob, my hand writing is illegible, ive never been disqualified. i have a black last name. never been disqualified


[13-Aug-20 06:49 AM] byte[]#2610
this isn't the 70s, if it was the president would have resigned


[13-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No its just, whenever you have War, people Vote Republican, whenever you have Civil Unrest, people vote Republican, cuz they always promote themselves as "Law and Order"


[13-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Thats why they picked Kamala if you ask me


[13-Aug-20 06:51 AM] byte[]#2610
do those patterns still apply in the current political climate?


[13-Aug-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
current polling shows biden with aggregate 70% chance of winning the presidency, and democrats have almost a 50% chance of controlling congress


[13-Aug-20 06:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[13-Aug-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem like a "republican landslide" to me


[13-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
do you play Chess?


[13-Aug-20 06:52 AM] byte[]#2610
I do


[13-Aug-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
if you're going to make a chess analogy, please don't even waste your breath, political strategy is nothing like chess


[13-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what is the first rule? I believe its never underestimate an opponent


[13-Aug-20 06:53 AM] byte[]#2610
the first rule is decide if you're playing by the book or by house rules


[13-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
the one weakness Neoliberals have, is that they keep under-estimating him like they did back in 2016.


[13-Aug-20 06:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
`current polling shows biden with aggregate 70% chance of winning the presidency, and democrats have almost a 50% chance of controlling congress`
That's what they said last election.


[13-Aug-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
and they were still right last election? random chance happens.


[13-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
keep telling yourself that


[13-Aug-20 06:54 AM] byte[]#2610
keep peddling your conspiracy theories to yourself, make yourself happy


[13-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and you'll probably tell that to yourself if he wins again


[13-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
that word is meaningless...


[13-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
anything and everything is a conspiracy nowadays, its like were living in Deus Ex


[13-Aug-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
almost everything you have posted here has been rooted in conspiracy nonsense shit


[13-Aug-20 06:55 AM] byte[]#2610
I am surprised you were even unmuted


[13-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont belive in a red wave, but i have a feeling trump will win again. same shit another 4 years untill another democrat gets in office, i just really hope it wont be sleepy joe or horrable harris again


[13-Aug-20 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
that about sums up my feelings on the issue


[13-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Republicans run the war economy


[13-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Serenity#9645
fun fact, kamala in finnish translates to horrable


[13-Aug-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610
@Nebbie


[13-Aug-20 06:59 AM] byte[]#2610

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[13-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Really?


[13-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Russia didn't change any votes as far as is known, but I would say this is overall quite a silly thing to say.


[13-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The real question is do the republicans run the war economy?


[13-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
In and of itself, not mute-worthy, but I'm finding this whole argument right now to be crazy.


[13-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont see why you deleted that, your not wrong if you believe there is a red wave, then sure why not. and believe the muller if i remember correctly report or not it can kinda be called a consperacy thory cus the courts said no but many dispute


[13-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i deleted it cuz i dint want to get muted


[13-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I think saying russia helped win the election undermines how stupid a big chunk of the country is

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[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:dab:


[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce I think it would be best if you spent a bit to bakk up your claims.


[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, stop assuming people in here are "neo-liberal".


[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I wasnt talking about the people in the channel


[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] byte[]#2610
uh, they undisputably did help the republicans win, and according to US intelligence they are doing it again this election. it's just not known if they actually directly tampered with votes.


[13-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
"back in the 70s studies showed whenever stuff like this happens, Republicans win by a landslide." - Source please.


[13-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i was talking about neo-liberals in general


[13-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and their inability to learn from their mistakes or from basic history. I did not refer to anyone in this server.


[13-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then it's an odd thing to bring up.


[13-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
You really should define what you mean by "neo-liberal" to begin with.


[13-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause the definition I normally see in here would say they support Trump.


[13-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, is this related to what you were saying? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/16/trump-nixon-1968-law-and-order-america

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[13-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Raptorshy#6268
~~I prefer to talk individual policy and leave the sports teams out of it, all of them~~


[13-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree with the dino


[13-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like the thing that won it for Nixon was racism.


[13-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Serenity#9645
the team sports, prove that everyone or at least most believe x is very picky. i know neo-nazi cells that have black people in them from personal experience. not defending neo-nazis and definitely not red laces, but it does happen


[13-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Whites saw racial tensions and violence and went for Nixon.


[13-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure there's a sufficient effect of that to work here.


[13-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of the violence is coming from the police in this case, and that's what people see.


[13-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Furthermore, there's been demographic changes.


[13-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Serenity#9645
i know i picked a exteme, but think about that a black neo nazi, now anyone saying all democrats stand for this thing is crazy


[13-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It may be quite a losing strategy to bank on fears of racial tensions, which already was used to turn Independents to Trump in 2016, to provide extra support to win him reelection.


[13-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
dont justify this this was before obama lol


[13-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
We have 6 Groups in this political battlefield. *The Trumpers* (Center Right to Moderate Right) *Independents and Moderates* (Moderate Right to Center) *The Liberals and the disaffected Liberals* (who lean more towards the Right in their values) *Neo-Liberals* (who are Democratic Establishment Supporters) *Progressives* (who dont like Trump but hate the Democrats and Neo Liberals endlessly more) and the *Far Left Radicals* (who also hate the Democratic establishment, and will do what ever it takes to destabilize the Nation even if that means Electing Trump)


[13-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
These are the groups on this game table


[13-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Tangent: ||I just don't like to answer for other people mostly, similar to why I don't identify with most LGBT but especially trans people. Because if I'm a proud X, then I suddenly have to answer for all of X and all that X does. X becomes my problem and in the end only I can answer for myself.||

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[13-Aug-20 07:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this isnt a game table, it;s a burning dumpster


[13-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
true


[13-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
About mail-in voting https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-is-no-evidence-that-voting-by-mail-gives-one-party-an-advantage/

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[13-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Serenity#9645
@Raptorshy  im G in the LGBT and i hate it when i have to speak about the pride rally dildo dress wearing people and explain that most of us are not that crazy and wierd. just normal people with a job that doesnt want that to be our existance


[13-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Tell that to the Republicans who used it to cheat an election :ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
The super tl;dr here is:
1. Lots of places have some form of this, and it generally works very well.
2. Marginal Democrats and Reliable Republicans benefit. These tend to cancel out.
3. Election officials love to discard votes cast by younger and poorer people over minor errors.


[13-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
a 3% error rate lead to 20k people not having their votes casted


[13-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
imagine scaling that up to the whole country


[13-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Serenity#9645
i think pierce has a point too, id rather not be part of the percent that is told to fuck off


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
honestly, I dont think it matters, cuz the NAACP is going to take Trumps side on this one


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Serenity#9645
BUT i realise that nothing is perfect


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Point 3 is what that signature verification thing was about.


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
You send in a ballot with a sig, and you've got few sigs on record.


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your ballot gets tossed.


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Serenity#9645
again black name, not discarded


[13-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Signature verification is generally useless and just an extra way they can discard your vote.


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if the name is spelled right and all, they can just find a minor difference.


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Nebbie you know all Trump has to do is Execute Order 51 right?


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Some interesting polling here, by the way https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-support-voting-by-mail-but-not-all-of-them-want-to-or-can/

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[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you bringing up Trump orders?


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Serenity#9645
bad hand writing, do all my writing on a computer, black name, never been discarded


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you just throw whatever comes to mind at the wall?


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
This isn't a non sequitor zone.


[13-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Executive Order 51 would pretty much guarantee that voter main in voter never happens


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Serenity#9645
i kinda wanna take a pic of my sig and send it to you lol its literally just a scribble


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump cannot stop states from using mail-in voting.


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
He does not hav that power.


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Under Order 51


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
he can, and we meet all the qualifications to execute it


[13-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Source.


[13-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Serenity#9645
execute order 66


[13-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_and_Homeland_Security_Presidential_Directive

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[13-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
scary enough


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
we qualify to have this enacted


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
No court would uphold that to stop mail-in voting.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
in fact, the correct application would be to force states to *hav* mail-in voting.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Trump would run the courts under this directive


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
As it would be considered a justifiable emergency measure.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
he takes total control


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not going to happen.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
I've heard these conspiracy theories before.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
About Obama, in fact.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
thank you Bush


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president can't just take control.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Serenity#9645
it is very opened ended, i doubt he will take that route, its political suicide


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, not thank you Bush


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You just said this was scary.


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
it wasnt Obama that wrote this, it was Bush that passed this


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now you're thanking the person who allowed it to be possible.


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you are arguing in bad faith.


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You flip flop constantly on whether Trump is good or bad.


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
again with that bad faith thing


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes, again.


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
whoa, that is obvious sarcasm i can see that


[13-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
im telling you this is a possibility, not saying its going to happen


[13-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a valid possibility.


[13-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stop bringing up conspiracy theories.


[13-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
can you read what it says?


[13-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Serenity#9645
stupid order that is scary - thanks (person who wrote it).
how is that bad faith?


[13-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
instead of accusing me


[13-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
The text on Wikipedia says nothing about Trump taking over the courts.


[13-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
its not a fucking Conspiracy if its on official government records


[13-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact it talks heavily about how the judicial branch would maintain continuity and that separation of powers would still be in effect.


[13-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you hav misunderstood the text of it.


[13-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so you're saying Trump might not find a loophole and abuse this?


[13-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wouldn't let him take over the courts.


[13-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
if it was written by the government, i bet you theres a loophole


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
That was the thing you were talking about.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The courts could declare the order invalid, easily.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially if it said to not do mail-in zoting.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
he would direct the courts


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does not grant direction of the courts.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Judicial branch would remain separate.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
to put this stupid arguement to a end, someone please post the portion that the jusitial branch is seperate to put this to a end


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Raptorshy#6268
@Serenity I've hit B G and T and T is by far the hardest to answer for. :x

But yeah, that kinda thing is why I stopped going to pride stuff. It largely stopped being a rights issue and ended up just as a place for people to hook up and be super fetishy in public.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact it requires the Judicial branch to be able to independently continue itself.


[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Sure


[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
they would be separate, but he would now have influence over them


[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's ridiculous.


[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Again, that was Bush's idea


[13-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
He already has influence, he appointed a lot of the judges.


[13-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why people are mad about his judicial appointments.


[13-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
But still, he often gets told off by the courts when he goes too far.


[13-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
This EO has nothing to do with his ability to control judges.


[13-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Serenity#9645
i never went to pride stuff, i went to gay bars and clubs and unsavery places. but the pride parade people wierd me out with screaming i gotta embrace being gay 24/7 and make the world know lol


[13-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
all im saying is, right now this is on Trumps table...so you better prey he doesnt enact this.


[13-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has nothing to do with mail-in voting or court cases...


[13-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
im going into my bunker


[13-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I went to TC pride the year gay marriage got legalized. It was like 300k people


[13-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Raptorshy#6268
So many people doing just that


[13-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Serenity#9645
thats awesome! i think i was homeless during then, but glad that there was more rights ^^


[13-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Raptorshy#6268
And then random cute old gay couples holding hands


[13-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
The point of going to Pride parades is to, for one day out of the year, tell people about being gay, to try to get recognition of it, so that it's not swept under the rug.


[13-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Serenity#9645
again dont need a dildo dress person with a microphone screaming at me to be gay

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[13-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
^


[13-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
night


[13-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Nini tally


[13-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Serenity#9645
nighty night


[13-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Serenity#9645
like im all for more rights, adoption, marrage, equality under the law. just dont think it helps the im your neighbor and this means nothing persona i want


[13-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont need extra rights, i went from homeless to middle class, not cus i was gay but because i was a good person and good worker.


[13-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Serenity#9645
what i do at home and in my off time should mean nothing to my work, a survey (enless medical), or my rights under the law to be like anyone else


[13-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
But yeah, that's what pride is for... However it's definitely undermined by oversexed people making people think being gay is all about having kinky sex. It's why the stereotype of a gay guy is someone in assless chaps and leathers.


[13-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Not that there's anything I can do to change people from doing it, I just prefer not to associate with them.


[13-Aug-20 07:35 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah, i agree. there is still some inequality for trans people and i will fight for that, i just feel like the gay pride stuff has been won, we dont need more. we should peacefully assemble for trans rights. people wearing dildo dresses with a microphone hurts that image, people across the world look at us and think this is what gayness does to you


[13-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
I wouldn't say it's over yet.


[13-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Serenity#9645
there are countries that look at that, and say gay people cant adopt children because this is what happens to them


[13-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Keep in mind we only JUST NOW got definitive federal protection as far as being fired for being gay.


[13-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, a few weeks ago.


[13-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Raptorshy#6268
At least trans doesn't have this oversexed thing. If anything they're more sexually repressed (mostly due to dysphoria).


[13-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Our outliers have their own problems but... Yeah I'd rather not get into that


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Serenity#9645
well then good on the trump admin, i was under the assumption the obama admin was the one that signed federal law on that.


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
dude


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was a court case.


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the Supreme Court...


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump administration was on the side saying you can be fired for being gay or trans.


[13-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
They lost.


[13-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
The law involved was the old law, not anything Obama did.


[13-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
At issue was whether discrimination on the basis of sex applies to being gay/trans.


[13-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Serenity#9645
why didnt the obama admin push that then?! i was under the assumption cus no one cared about gays and just saw them as people that the obama admin did that


[13-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch sided with the liberal justices to say yes.


[13-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Jurisprudence has generally said that it does apply.


[13-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This was just the final deciding case.


[13-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is a big part of RGB's legacy as a judge, by the way.


[13-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i still think its was pretty low for the DNC to screw over their only LGBT candidate


[13-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
also still here, had to walk the dog


[13-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument formed from the general jurisprudence side is as follows:


[13-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
1. It is discrimination if two people are treated differently based on a certain quality.


[13-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Serenity#9645
buttjudge was a pretty shitty leader in my opinion anyways, still better then biden, but just reaks of army capitan dumb shit


[13-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
2. So it is discrimination on the basis of sex, and thus illegal, to treat people differently based on sex.


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
3. To fire a man for dating a man, but not a woman who is in all other ways identical in every way, for dating a man, is thus discrimination on the basis of sex.


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and vice versa being the real issue that happens)


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Hey Nebbie would you ever support repealing Civil Rights Laws?


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Serenity#9645
ah prop 209, fuck cali


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I find it funny that they even tried to fight that, something that was obviously going to change at some point in the future. I can't imagine wanting to be on the asshole side of history.


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm going to guess this is an attempt to do a loaded question with what Serenity just said.


[13-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which wasn't even a law.


[13-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
so no?


[13-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
4. To fire a man for showing up to work as a woman, is thus also discrimination on the basis of sex.


[13-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Serenity#9645
it isnt a law its a repeal of a state constitutioal admindment


[13-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think Affirmative Action can be useful in some ways, and thus Cali's old blanket ban was probably bad.


[13-Aug-20 07:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
you know what Nebbie


[13-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't agree with using it for college admissions in particular, by the way.


[13-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I actually agree with you


[13-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should be targeted earlier in the pipeline.


[13-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Serenity#9645
i must disagree i see it as discrimitory on race, id rather a poor asian get the ability to get schooling then a rich black person


[13-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Really it should be an effort to look at minority students who aren't getting a fair shake and putting them in better schools.


[13-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Try to distribute things a bit better and get some mixing going on.


[13-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
But of course, people get up in arms about busing.


[13-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
If you're hiring people, and your boss tells you to only hire blacks, and latinos over Indians or Asians....im walking out of there.


[13-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Now, as to the Trump Administration's arguments:


[13-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
1. They consider it to be sex-relative


[13-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Serenity#9645
it makes asians that flead oppressive regimes with nothing alot harder to get into collage, but will put a low scoring black man with rich parents easier to get into that slot


[13-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
2. Therefore, a man must be treated the same as a woman, but in the sense they are both allowed to be straight, but not gay


[13-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
3. This requires relying on the idea that you can't look at the actual "result", only the broad level description, *i.e.* a man dating the same sex, vs. dating the opposite, not a man dating a man, vs. a man dating a woman.


[13-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
This can be reformulated to really be about societal roles.


[13-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
So, say you're a business that fires women for being into Star Wars


[13-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
but fires men for being into Barbie


[13-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Serenity#9645
i think if a poor asian with talent can do great, then they should get in, same with black white yellow ect.
there is a enterance requirement a desire to learn. now i got people under me that is aircraft electritians that think a SN can be found in the manual and ask me how a lightbulb works. we work on aircraft!!


[13-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
The argument from the Trump Administration is you must treat women into Star Wars the same as men into Barbie, and women into Barbie the same as men into Star Wars; as opposed to treating men into Star Wars the same as women into Star Wars, and men into Barbie the same as women into Barbie.


[13-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
This argument ultimately failed.


[13-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I think anyone who views the world through the lenses of race is a disgusting human being


[13-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed


[13-Aug-20 07:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's every politician in the US right now, so good lukk with that one.


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
(yes, even the third party candidates, generally)


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Serenity#9645
if you dont know how to vote for me then you aint black


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
hah


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Serenity#9645
thats my african american over there


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
So


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
you think the Trump Administration's argument was crazy?


[13-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Serenity#9645
im libritarian but i support black lives matter


[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Perhaps I should reformulate it for races.


[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah its all fucking stupid


[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>DE BLASIO


[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 07:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Trump Administration's argument was that it's okay as long as you treat whites who are into jazz the same as blakks into pop, and blakks into jazz the same as whites into pop; as opposed to whites into jazz the same as blakks into jazz, and whites into pop the same as blakks into pop.


[13-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch was not a fan of the argument.


[13-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Serenity#9645
thats kinda word salad, but i can get abit of what your saying


[13-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Idk, all I know is that Trumps support with Blacks and Hispanics is skyrocketing


[13-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Source?


[13-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and theres a saying in DC. If a Republican ever wins over 20% of the black vote, Democrats will never win again.


[13-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Serenity#9645
nah its kinda self defeating and a bad example, if he endorces multiculture and monoculture, but also opposes multiculture and monoculture. now im just confused


[13-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
The last time I saw people saying Trump's blakk support level was skyrokketing, it was a weird one-off poll that got cited by an article that then got heavily used in aggregate news source.


[13-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps-approval-rating-with-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/

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https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps-approval-rating-with-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/
Trump's Approval Rating With Black Voters May Be Higher Than You Think
A recent poll from NBC/Wall Street Journal shows that more black men tend to favor President Donald Trump as compared to black women.
https://a9p9n2x2.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2020/03/donaldtrump.png


[13-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Serenity#9645
it would be better to just say he likes individualisum, like jazz or pop, black or white. most candidates do. this is kinda a bad example


[13-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
this was awhile back, but it was all the way up to 14%


[13-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
doubled from 2017


[13-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure that was the outlier poll.


[13-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep, it's from March.


[13-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Serenity#9645
but it can also be said from wikipedia that the individualisum movement is far right. so who knows


[13-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.newsweek.com/92-percent-black-americans-support-biden-over-trump-poll-says-1513367

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92 percent of Black Americans support Biden over Trump, poll says
As police conduct and racism move to the forefront of voter issues, a new poll found former vice president Joe Biden has the overwhelming support of Black Americans for November's election.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1603394/joe-biden.jpg


[13-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/andrew-davenport/rasmussen-trump-approval-rating-36-among-black-voters

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Rasmussen: Trump Approval Rating at 36% Among Black Voters
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(CNS News) -- A recent poll from Rasmussen shows that 36% of black voters approve of Donald Trump’s job as president. 

According to the Rasmussen poll for July 2020, 36% of black American likely voters approve of the job President Trump is doing while 48% of ...
https://cdn.cnsnews.com/styles/article_big/s3/2020-08/black%20voting%201.JPG?itok=oSy1YzKc


[13-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Serenity#9645
im far right i guess from wikipedia lol


[13-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's job approval.


[13-Aug-20 08:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i think 36% is too much, if i were to guess...id say 24% or 25%


[13-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't indicate if they support him over Biden.


[13-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489

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[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I know this to be true, cuz almost all the young black folk I work with are voting for Trump


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Serenity#9645
well im gonna call it a night, gotta get up in 4 hours


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
night


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
A few people you know personally are not a representative sample.


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
of course


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/30/publics-mood-turns-grim-trump-trails-biden-on-most-personal-traits-major-issues/

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https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/30/publics-mood-turns-grim-trump-trails-biden-on-most-personal-traits-major-issues/
Trump Trails Biden on Most Personal Traits, Major Issues
With less than five months until the 2020 elections, Americans are deeply unhappy with the state of the nation.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/06/PP_20.06.26_W69Election_feature.png


[13-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
anyway, have a good one


[13-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Black voters favor Biden over Trump by an overwhelming margin (89% to 7%).'


[13-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hmm, it seems it also disagrees with the Rasmussen poll.


[13-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.vox.com/2020/7/2/21308487/latino-hispanic-vote-trump-biden

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Trump’s surprising resilience with Hispanic voters, explained
The Latino vote offers a roadmap for what a Trump comeback could look like.
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[13-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
'Roughly seven-in-ten Hispanic adults (69%) disapprove of Trump’s job performance, as does an even larger majority of Black adults (86%). Disapproval among Black adults is especially deeply held: 70% say they very strongly disapprove of his job performance; in March, 58% said this.'


[13-Aug-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The article you linked seems to indicate that hispanics don't really support Trump


[13-Aug-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
they just don't support Biden.


[13-Aug-20 08:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
(their choice was Bernie)


[13-Aug-20 08:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
take it for what it is


[13-Aug-20 08:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
idk man, its like a giant puzzle....you gotta put the little hints together


[13-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Well, the article also says that Trump lost the gains in blakk support, and has even lost a lot of white voters now.


[13-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It suggests overall that his support has taken a huge hit from his handling of the pandemic.


[13-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
if I had to put my money one who would win the Election...it would be Trump. Cuz in reality, they are going to get rid of Biden and make Kamala the real Candidate


[13-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
thats just my theory


[13-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure Kamala wins in Kamala vs. Trump.


[13-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
sure she will


[13-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
you should look up the Imperial Nebulon


[13-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
thats a really cool ship design


[13-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
night


[13-Aug-20 08:13 AM] jimm#1439
neither generates enough enthusiasm, and it's been demonstrated that not enough people are going to vote just to vote against trump instead of for a candidate they like. I'm almost certain trump wins again


[13-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believed that at the start of the year, now I say about 40% chance


[13-Aug-20 08:19 AM] Synfag#9241
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[13-Aug-20 08:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 08:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Does a human cost more then a Xbox one S, PS4, PC of medium quality and a fallout new Vegas collectors edition guide?


[13-Aug-20 08:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Is it a PS4 Pro?


[13-Aug-20 08:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
No sadly


[13-Aug-20 08:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Out of luck then, sorry


[13-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Opponent#3498
```the first amendment also only covers consequences from the government, saying the N word over facebook and such can still get you fired by your job```
given that Twitter et al is basicly the new and improved government with as much consequence as they have in person's life, 1st A is dead. 2nd A is also effectively dead. I wonder how many more are.


[13-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Opponent#3498
I always genuinly wondered why did some US people try to LARP 'the founders principles' when the actual life around them was really divorced from that


[13-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```Aaaaaah why am I the only one who can handle so many things?```
it's universally aknowledged to be your playground. Gotta own that.


[13-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't have to have Twitter though. You opt into it and have to agree to its TOS when you sign up, so I think saying 1A is dead is a bit hyperbolic.


[13-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a gun-owner I'm not sure where you get the idea that 2A is dead either. People be having guns.


[13-Aug-20 12:47 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, they do. It doesn't _really_ protect them in modern society.


[13-Aug-20 12:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In what way?


[13-Aug-20 12:49 PM] Opponent#3498
and weren't you guys specifically telling us horror stories about employers commonly demanding social media accounts for scrutiny? It sounded like you _have_ to have Twitter indeed, or at least set up a fake one.


[13-Aug-20 12:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I'm a teacher - a job that has a ton of public scrutiny for understandable reasons - and I have no social media presence under my real name.


[13-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Opponent#3498
then it probably wasn't you who told that. I'll wait for Crow/Nebbie/Intexda on it.


[13-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But even before social media, background checks for employment were a thing. What you choose to put online about yourself being used against you isn't really a violation of free speech, I'd say.


[13-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All 1A ultimately means is that it's not *illegal* to express viewpoints, not that there are no professional or personal consequences for it. Peoples' jobs have always been at risk if they say the wrong thing.


[13-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, in practice this means that the only people expressing any opinion but supremely mainsteam for the time (and times change, as USSR's history would helpfully remind you, get fired and cancelled in 50ies for something you said that was mainsteam in 40ies xD) on social media should be people being payed to do it.


[13-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Opponent#3498
because otherwise you set a timebomb under yourself for no reason nor a clear timer on it.


[13-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People change their mind, though.

There's an obvious difference between someone expressing a bigoted opinion a decade ago and still *continuing* to openly do it today. I don't think digging up views that a person may no longer hold is helpful.


[13-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you're right about that. The difference, now, is that social media have a global reach.


[13-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Opponent#3498
global exposure. You can move towns and start over which majorly sucks but solves the issue in meatspace.


[13-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Opponent#3498
in social media? Not so much.


[13-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Opponent#3498
as for 'people change their minds'... People get persecuted on Twitter for things they said decades ago :shrugpony:  Yeah, they do change their minds. It just doesn't count for a whole lot now.


[13-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It is same as censorship outsourced to private companies instead of govt.

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[13-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, like I said, I don't agree with doing that.

But that's also not something I really think can be regulated. You can't exactly forbid people from talking about someone's old past statements.

I think we should encourage giving people the benefit of the doubt and letting people grow and change, but I'm not sure if there's really any rule that can be enforced to stop what you're talking about in practice.


[13-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Opponent#3498
and as for firearms, modern society isn't set on physically removing their enemies, but starving them out. That's the endgame of cancel culture, other forms of attack, and so on. Data theft is a different big one, although it usually doesn't harm one directly, it feeds into things harming society. I don't normally give a shit about 'society' past practical issues like shared resources, but this blurs the lines.


[13-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
I could probably think of more things ~~since Nebbie isn't here to derail me~~but they'd all be in this direction.


[13-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Question on cancel culture: Is publicly criticizing someone for their statements (especially if it's recent as opposed to a long time ago) ever legitimate?


[13-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Opponent#3498
like, you can own the guns but it doesn't help. You can have government-mandated free speech, but it also doesn't help.


[13-Aug-20 12:59 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what I meant. Times have changed.


[13-Aug-20 12:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like, what's the difference between good-faith criticism and "cancelling" someone to you?


[13-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If it's simply a matter of time, I don't really disagree.


[13-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Opponent#3498
one is brigading. Cancelling is usually defined by a focused effort of a large established group or attracting as much traction as quickly as possible to form a group for the occasion.


[13-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hm. Was J.K. Rowling cancelled or did a large number of people just express disapproval of a public figure's statements? Or perhaps, was it a mix of both?


[13-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
another is the severety of practical consequences. Being fired from your job, if, say, its something like journalism and you're called out for being a shill, okay, that's fine. Being fired from an entirely unrelated job/have the self-employment projects set back, have your brand/name slandered and so on, that's problematic.


[13-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, wait now.

Are you saying any time someone publicly says something that gets them enough blowback that it hurts their career that it's cancelling?


[13-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
in general, cancelling aims for maximum damage possible, rather than solving a specific issue.


[13-Aug-20 01:06 PM] Opponent#3498
it depends. On principle, yes if there are no ethical concerns attached with his job.


[13-Aug-20 01:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not sure how you define that. Especially self-employment as you mentioned.

If people just stop giving someone their business, that's their choice. Should people continue to support artists and creators even if they don't want to?


[13-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Opponent#3498
well the self-employment thing pivots back to the first issue - focused, overwhelming attack. No, people shouldn't continue to support people if they don't want to. The trick about cancel attack is, thus, to make as many people as possible hate a specific individual or a small group as quickly as possible, and shame/guilt-trip them if hate doesn't set in.


[13-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Opponent#3498
this is exceeeeeeeeeedingly common in modern art scene.


[13-Aug-20 01:09 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[13-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
but no, when I said about ethics concern I wasn't even thinking about self-employment. It was something like, a backend dev existing in the bowels of some corporate building vs a mainstream journalist or a well-known doctor.


[13-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Perhaps. But I think that it's within the realm of free speech, just as whatever the cancellee is being canceled for is.

Like, if Rowling is allowed to say trans people shouldn't be fully recognized as the gender they identify as (and she is allowed to say it, make no mistake), then other people are allowed to say Rowling shouldn't have your business. I could just as easily say that she's attempting to "cancel" the legitimacy of an entire group of people rather than a specific individual.


[13-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
the first has his job perfomance entirely divorced from his ethics, yet is also much easier to get rid of for the corporation to score minor brownie points.


[13-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Opponent#3498
Rowling is a bad example. She's rich enough to be impossible to be meaningfully hurt by this.


[13-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't consider just poor reputation to be a severe enough effect if it doesn't _do_ much in meatspace.


[13-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Opponent#3498
she became a meme for it, too, that by itself is a shot at immortality :twismug:


[13-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Is it about brownie points or about avoiding a loss though?

If I as a teacher went on social media and posted a bunch of crazy inflammatory stuff that *still didn't directly involve* my students or my place of work, I'd be out on my ass for it. The school board has a clear policy on how we represent the school and how our public conduct can still cost us our jobs.


[13-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
teachers is different. Their beliefs _can_ _potentially_ bleed into their perfomance.


[13-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I'd define sensitive occupations as... people relying on trust of others to do the job as required.


[13-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
something along these lines, I'm not sure.


[13-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess that's fair.

Would you say that in private employment where viewpoints are largely not vital to the job, it's *ever* okay to fire someone for what they say, though? Like, I'm talking really blatant obviously bad stuff here. Slurs, statements of unambiguous superiority to other groups, etc.


[13-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think someone should lose their job for being a Republican or whatever. I'm talking about blatant obvious bigotry.


[13-Aug-20 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't think so, no. I may personally dislike the co-worker for his views, but if I call out for him to be fired for that - that's an attempted cancel attack.


[13-Aug-20 01:20 PM] Opponent#3498
as is obvious from this picture, it's not a new concept.


[13-Aug-20 01:20 PM] Opponent#3498
social media just _globalises_ it enough to become a **problem**


[13-Aug-20 01:21 PM] Opponent#3498
again, the first thing outside of modern era that comes to mind about it is USSR with it's persecution of wrongthink, or, more often, percieved wrongthink.


[13-Aug-20 01:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't see it as inherently a problem.

I actually do think that making it harder to express prejudice actually works to denormalize it.


[13-Aug-20 01:22 PM] Opponent#3498
because by and large people still thought whatever they did, it was all about the consequences of expressing it somewhere outside of a trusted circle of friends.


[13-Aug-20 01:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it becomes a problem if people are illicitly accused or if they're held responsible for long-outdated views they no longer hold though.


[13-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, if the US government accuses you of something, generally it bears the burden of proof. Social justice dispenses with burden of proof entirely, guilty until proven innocent (and even then)


[13-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But if you wanna publicly go out and say that nonwhites are corrupting the gene pool and are genetically inferior or whatever, I'm not gonna feel bad if you lose your job for it. That's the free market weeding out a profit liability.


[13-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Opponent#3498
(I have to specify US govt here, for others your mileage may vary)


[13-Aug-20 01:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, I'm talking about unambiguous cases here. It's not an illicit accusation to say "That guy said the n-word" if he really did.


[13-Aug-20 01:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like people with racist views are fine with every insult in the book *except* for "racist." They can prattle on about how such-and-such race is genetically less intelligent or less moral and how their very existence constitutes a "genocide" for the majority population - but call them racist for it and you're "cancelling" PC police.

That's what I'm getting at, the really blatant no-room-for-doubt cases that *still* act like criticism is an SJW overreaction.


[13-Aug-20 01:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's kind of like rape accusations on social media. Especially from years past. Common, entirely unprovable but effective enough. Again, not a new concept, the exposure and compounded effect of a mob using up their 5 minutes of hate is much different from meatspace.


[13-Aug-20 01:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
With those, I see two extreme reactions and I disagree with both of them


[13-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
- Immediately condemning the accused
- And immediately writing the accuser off as an attention-seeking liar

With an accusation as serious as that, we ought to give both parties the benefit of the doubt until such a time as evidence clarifies what actually happened. But people choose a camp and immediately demonize one or the other, and I think both are a problem.


[13-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm much closer to the 2nd camp generally. Not because I hate women, but because I recognise the cost-effectiveness of an attack like this with precious little drawback.


[13-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Opponent#3498
except maybe moral integrity but when money or hurt feelings are on the line, that's not even remotely a concern.


[13-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, I didn't say women. Sometimes men are the accusers, after all, like Terry Crews. It is generally women though.


[13-Aug-20 01:33 PM] Opponent#3498
well, I'm thinking statistical/historical norm here. Yeah, the ratio will change in time.


[13-Aug-20 01:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's important that even if you have suspicions or an inclination toward one side or the other, we ought to wait before casting judgment.

Can you imagine publicly writing off a legitimate victim as a liar? It'd be awful.


[13-Aug-20 01:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Same goes for the accused, mind you.


[13-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A lot of people dogpiled on ProJared, but I waited. It was a lot of he-said-she-said and rather than write him off *or* the people accusing him, I thought it was wiser to wait for proof. Proof eventually came, and it exonerated him, making the people who prematurely condemned him look really foolish and vindictive. 

But the same thing happens to victims of abuse as well, people who've legitimately suffered who are publicly mocked and called liars for speaking up. It disincentivizes coming forward.


[13-Aug-20 01:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone at BBC having fun...
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[13-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
*good*


[13-Aug-20 01:52 PM] PwnyPony#6185
What your hair looks like when using a high pressure shower.


[13-Aug-20 02:12 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/19/kamala-harris-jamaican-father-donald-harris-rips-2/

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When Sen. Kamala Harris said last week that she obviously supports marijuana legalization and has smoked the plant, she cited her ethnicity --
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[13-Aug-20 02:12 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 02:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Based


[13-Aug-20 02:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Also she put people in jail for decades for smoking it.


[13-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
What a horrible person


[13-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Also fun fact, Kamala in Finnish means "Horrible"


[13-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[13-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Horrible Harris


[13-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Opponent#3498

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[13-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Opponent#3498
google translate says 'yes'


[13-Aug-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admin-proposes-shower-pressure-change-rules-his-hair-complaints-2020-8

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The Department of Energy's proposed changes would allow a shower with multiple nozzles to pour out a lot more water per minute.
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[13-Aug-20 02:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The White House wants to change shower regulations so they spray more water, addressing a personal Trump grievance over needing more water to wash his hair


[13-Aug-20 03:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>washington times
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/

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[13-Aug-20 03:11 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You have failed the bias check


[13-Aug-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/511798-facebook-launches-new-election-efforts-will-expand-labels-for-posts-on

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[13-Aug-20 03:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat/status/1293840556649570304?s=20

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GOP, July: how dare you politicize this good man’s death by bringing up the things he said and did, my god, have you no shame

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[13-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The gop being hypocritical? I am shocked, shocked!


[13-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Well not that shocked.


[13-Aug-20 04:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s not dead, he;s just gone underground


[13-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Opponent#3498
```But yeah, that kinda thing is why I stopped going to pride stuff. It largely stopped being a rights issue and ended up just as a place for people to hook up and be super fetishy in public.```
@Raptorshy you know, this is actually an improvement. Now I kinda wish straights/bi's had something like this option :/


[13-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
```people across the world look at us and think this is what gayness does to you```
and they envy you deeply :wheeze:


[13-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
```there are countries that look at that, and say gay people cant adopt children because this is what happens to them```
that's the problem with the puritanical mindset and the countries in question though.


[13-Aug-20 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
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[13-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Raptorshy#6268
@Opponent You gotta just go there anyways in full fetish garbs and say "I'm straight" until some cute guy convinces you otherwise.

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[13-Aug-20 05:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://abcn.ws/2PMm2Xt

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President Trump says 'historic peace agreement' made between Israel...
President Trump says 'historic peace agreement' made between Israel, UAE.
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[13-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh I’d half expect Israel to start a war with surrounding countries so they can try to fulfill their own prophecy


[13-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, peace is good news. Hopefully agreements like that will follow.


[13-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://pressprogress.ca/lowes-says-its-hiring-someone-to-lead-a-team-of-anti-union-investigators-to-keep-stores-union-free/

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[13-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Lowe’s, a home improvement box store chain that operates over 2,000 locations in Canada and the United States, is on a hiring spree and looking for someone who can “support and enhance Lowe’s union free philosophy” across the company
> 
> A recent job posting listed on Lowe’s International website shows the company is looking to hire an “associate relations manager” to “manage a team of Employee Relations Consultants (investigators) that handle all employee complex, high-risk workplace complaint investigations.”
> 
> The job description indicates Lowe’s wants someone with “experience supporting union free environments,” because the job involves “programmatic approaches to union avoidance” and providing “direction on procedures for handling potential unionizing efforts.”


[13-Aug-20 06:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What scumbags.


[13-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I nearly went on forced strike because people didn't want to lose their dollar per hour sunday pay bonus to get a lot of other benefits. Fuck unions.


[13-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Unions from my personal experience are Cancer


[13-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Same. They might work in some sectors but definitely not in retail.


[13-Aug-20 06:31 PM] Raptorshy#6268
They become an extra barrier to "I can't do this or that" because of how little people understand them. So the union says you can take your two 15 minute breaks together now? Great! Except it's up to stores to implement it and they won't, so I still have to shove food in my face because I don't have enough time to eat


[13-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Want to ask for a payraise? Boss says union doesn't allow that because they have a scale (this one's not true, but good luck asking again after you sick the union on them).


[13-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Maxed out and got a job somewhere else in retail at the same pay but with better benefits but now I don't have to pay them to do jack shit.


[13-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know whats even more cancer? Corporations fucking over workers who have no one to fight for your rights


[13-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh yeah. Unions can definitely be implemented and managed poorly, but I feel like not having any leverage with your employer inherently puts the workers at a pretty substantial disadvantage.


[13-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Target in Canada got rid of the Zellers union and was infamously bad to work at and lead to the downfall of Target in Canada


[13-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
it's the election 'choice' all over again it seems. Shitty vs shittier.


[13-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Raptorshy#6268
You still don't have any leverage because now it becomes a political game that you don't have any control over. It's just an extra variable you have to be paranoid of


[13-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
only much more murky.


[13-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reminder that video game devs have no union and get fucked by publishers on a regular basis


[13-Aug-20 06:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
In the case of Ubisoft: actually geting fucked.


[13-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Like I said, it might work in some sectors but in retail they do not


[13-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, admittedly I don't work in that sector so I don't want to speak in ignorance of something I'm not super well-versed in.

I will say that teachers' unions have been very beneficial. Ours has negotiated for pay raises and has a company attorney who'll represent any member if they need to sue the school board for unfair treatment. I'm sure it definitely varies though.


[13-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I was an "employee representative" at my company for a few years


[13-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically a powerless buffer between owners and peons and a way to keep people from wanting an actual union


[13-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If I seem erratic and irascible as a booru mod, woo, you've not seen gamedev studio owners...


[13-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Raptorshy#6268
In retail it ends up just being an extra entity you have to answer for and expect pay to be used as leverage for implementing shitty rules every 3 years.


[13-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Raptorshy#6268
I've seen more erratic booru mods. You've had your moments but you have no idea how far that rabbit hole goes.


[13-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Though to me that just sounds like those unions need to be reformed rather than dispensed with entirely.

Simply leaving employees to fend entirely for themselves can't be the answer either.


[13-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Reformed or replaced, rather


[13-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Raptorshy#6268
They don't fend for themselves, companies have a standard package they offer to everyone in retail and if you don't like it you leave


[13-Aug-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Organization and striking is great, but be careful around unions -- 90% of the time they're just tools of the bosses to wind down worker dissatisfaction


[13-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That doesn't change with unions, it just makes the package more inconsistent from year to year


[13-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Likewise it makes it a lot harder to remove terrible workers


[13-Aug-20 06:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Try wildcat striking
*image of angery black cat with tail up*


[13-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That can legitimately be a problem, yeah.


[13-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Police unions for example are at least partially to blame for why cops with a history of abuses haven't been drummed out of the force. There are definitely issues I'll acknowledge.


[13-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
So you get people who have worked there for 20 years and are maxed out on pay who do minimal work and fuck off all the time.


[13-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Raptorshy#6268
That's a better and more topical example, yeah.


[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't get what he's trying to say


[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
you stole this post from the HN server


[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes.


[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
HN?


[13-Aug-20 06:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a relic from older times


[13-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
```I don't get what he's trying to say```
'They need a real man, i.e. ME (please ignore the beer belly hanging past the belt)'


[13-Aug-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
imagine saying "fuck unions" unironically


[13-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
fuck unicorns

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[13-Aug-20 06:55 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Unions aren't inherently bad: however, they suffer from the same issues of any longstanding organization.


[13-Aug-20 06:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good and bad ones yes


[13-Aug-20 07:00 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Opponent Generally he will say something like this and then go "haha was only pretending" once people shit on him enough


[13-Aug-20 07:00 PM] byte[]#2610
schroedinger's joke


[13-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Joke?


[13-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Raptorshy#6268
And not joke


[13-Aug-20 07:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Straight women are actually lesbians" is a weird joke

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[13-Aug-20 07:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This guy's just saying "I'm not gonna take *my* flag down" which is, you know, whatever

This debate is about whether Confederate iconography belongs on *public* property.


[13-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It clearly does not.

The Confederacy is not the USA. Even putting aside the issue of slavery and racism, we should not be flying the flag of a *defeated traitor nation* that was objectively the enemy of the United States.

But we don't have to put that issue aside, because the Confederacy was objectively about racism. The Cornerstone Speech outright says "Our nation's cornerstone rests on the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man."


[13-Aug-20 07:19 PM] aperture_tech#5247
honestly? I just laugh at that shit


[13-Aug-20 07:20 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I just spent a week in branson aka hillbilly vegas. They had shops that only sold confederate flag merch. It's a joke, and it always will be


[13-Aug-20 07:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm from the south and it's somewhat common here.

Not *as* common since I'm in a large city and not a little country town, but you still see Confederate bumper stickers and the like here and there. My city's getting rid of its Confederate monument next year, thankfully.


[13-Aug-20 07:22 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, and the appropriate response is to laugh


[13-Aug-20 07:22 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather be joyful than not.


[13-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You have the right to privately display it on your property, but I do think we ought to pressure the government to take down or move all public monuments.


[13-Aug-20 07:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather just minimize the government


[13-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, sure? But as long as the government exists, it has to choose whether or not to display Confederate iconography on its grounds.


[13-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Neither decision minimizes or maximizes government control so it's kind of a moot point.


[13-Aug-20 07:24 PM] aperture_tech#5247
at the end of the day, it's a flag - for me, what I want to look at those who choose to fly it decides what it represents, not what society ascribes to it


[13-Aug-20 07:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but I'm not talking about those who choose to fly it. I'm talking specifically about it being displayed on public property like town halls, courthouses, public schools, etc.


[13-Aug-20 07:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
fair enough


[13-Aug-20 07:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think the government should forbid a private citizen from putting it in their yard or on their car, as much as I dislike the flag.


[13-Aug-20 07:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But definitely take the flag/statues off of government land. We shouldn't as a nation put the Confederacy in a place of honor.


[13-Aug-20 07:27 PM] aperture_tech#5247
My issue is that it's also about taking off anything about the confederacy off even private land - it's part of our history whether it's shameful or not


[13-Aug-20 07:27 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Fly it sure, but no one has to like it


[13-Aug-20 07:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Statues aren't history lessons. They're monuments meant to honor.


[13-Aug-20 07:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I promise if every statue of the Confederacy came down people would still know what the Civil War was, because we get our history from books and school, not statues.


[13-Aug-20 07:28 PM] Raptorshy#6268
People in the south would still think slavery wasn't that bad because they paid them sometimes :twismug:


[13-Aug-20 07:28 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's up to us to provide context, removing the content in my eyes isn't necessarily a good thing. For me, when I see a statue I don't see it as always something to honor someone.


[13-Aug-20 07:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Also, there are dumbasses everywhere


[13-Aug-20 07:29 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Yeah but mostly in the south :twiright:


[13-Aug-20 07:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The statues were specifically put up by racist organizations throughout the 20th century as a fuck-you to the Civil Rights movement as well. These didn't go up right after the Civil War.


[13-Aug-20 07:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Some people will always take away the wrong lesson


[13-Aug-20 07:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The "history" behind these statues is white supremacy being flaunted to taunt black people seeking to end segregation.


[13-Aug-20 07:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
in my eyes, taking some of this away is pretending it never happened


[13-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Imo we need more weirdly anatomically correct animal statues put up with no context.

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[13-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, aperture, where did you learn about the Civil War? Was it from seeing a statue?


[13-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm going to guess you learned about it in school.


[13-Aug-20 07:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I learned in school - but the statues mark places where this shit happened


[13-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No, not necessarily. A lot of Confederate monuments were just slapped up willy-nilly across the south - again - as a reaction *against* the civil rights movement.


[13-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Raptorshy#6268
Your eyes are definitely the minority here. Putting up a statue of someone has always been seen as that person being honorable (unless done in obvious parody, though I'm not aware of any that are).


[13-Aug-20 07:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, and the fact they were put up is part of history


[13-Aug-20 07:32 PM] aperture_tech#5247
The fact they were put up is a reflection of the racial issues in the US


[13-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That is the objective history behind these statues. They were put up as a statement against desegregation and equality. They're trash.

Put them in a private museum if you really want to preserve them, but they don't belong on public U.S. land today.


[13-Aug-20 07:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'll disagree with that, but that's a valid outlook on it


[13-Aug-20 07:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I honestly think that's a fair compromise. A museum would preserve these statues for people to learn about them, but they'd no longer be in a place of honor, upheld as something good or noble.


[13-Aug-20 07:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It would be nice to provide context behind the history of the statues


[13-Aug-20 07:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Present-day Germany doesn't have statues of Hitler or swastikas all over the place, but you can bet every German knows what the Nazis did.


[13-Aug-20 07:34 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, but at the same time, those are literally banned by law


[13-Aug-20 07:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yet

Nobody there "forgot history." That's my point.


[13-Aug-20 07:34 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I prefer to trend towards letting people being dumbasses


[13-Aug-20 07:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The concentration camps remain standing as a grim reminder of what happened, but they're not proudly displayed as something to celebrate or look up to like our Confederate statues are. I think that's the clear difference.


[13-Aug-20 07:35 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I never claimed anybody forgot history. However, there is also a reason that concentration camps still stand in germany - they are around to remind people of what happened


[13-Aug-20 07:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, but

Like I said, there's a clear difference between that and a statue. A more fair comparison would be the plantations.


[13-Aug-20 07:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those still stand, and can serve as a reminder of the indefensible evil that slavery was. We don't need statues honoring the people who fought to preserve that institution.


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] aperture_tech#5247
in my eyes, there is a bit more nuance to it. I don't care if those statues stand or get taken down, but there should be an attempt to preserve them


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114
put the plantations in museum


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There we go. Giant building full of other smaller buildings


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] aperture_tech#5247
they belong in a museum


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Xhibit would be proud


[13-Aug-20 07:38 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Indiana jones would be as well


[13-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The traitors rag and statues should be in a museum.


[13-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
~~French flag and statue of liberty?~~

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[13-Aug-20 08:31 PM] ononim#8141
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[13-Aug-20 08:31 PM] ononim#8141
Lib Korea


[13-Aug-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-marjorie-taylor-greene-georgia-bio-age-beliefs-qanon-2020-8


[13-Aug-20 08:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Marjorie Taylor Greene, a far-right QAnon conspiracy supporter, won the Republican primary for a northwest Georgia House seat on Tuesday.


[13-Aug-20 08:42 PM] byte[]#2610
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[13-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1293984290326433792

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[13-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I mean I get the intended satire, but glass houses.


[13-Aug-20 09:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
itsthinking just steals stuff from the HN server to post here


[13-Aug-20 09:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I have the evidence now


[13-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna cry?


[13-Aug-20 09:26 PM] wren#0114
I might


[13-Aug-20 09:26 PM] aperture_tech#5247
nah just ratting you out to your buddies


[13-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Gonna piss your pants maybe? Maybe shit and cum?


[13-Aug-20 09:26 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I'll coom, right up politics ass

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[13-Aug-20 09:26 PM] aperture_tech#5247
gotta make it related to the channel


[13-Aug-20 09:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[13-Aug-20 09:27 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but yeah seriously, fucking fortnite making a 1984 ref? holy shit, they are *partially owned by china


[13-Aug-20 09:31 PM] wren#0114
trump bans fortnight when

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[13-Aug-20 09:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
hopefully soon


[13-Aug-20 09:32 PM] aperture_tech#5247
he should go for broke on pissing off zoomers


[13-Aug-20 09:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe we could convince him by saying kushner's h1b shit could go much further if he banned fortnite


[13-Aug-20 09:35 PM] wren#0114
the sell: if he bans fortnight, the zoomers will be forced to get a job and boost the economy


[13-Aug-20 09:36 PM] byte[]#2610
what job lmao


[13-Aug-20 09:36 PM] aperture_tech#5247
nah the sell is saying kushner wants something - gotta listen to the neocon son in law


[13-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I remember a few years ago when people kept saying zoomers were going to be really conservative because of like one study that showed they were more careful with spending money than millennials, despite every other body of data showing they're even more social justicey than we are.


[13-Aug-20 09:37 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and yeah what fucking job? He'll sell em all out to foreign workers if Kushner tells him to


[13-Aug-20 09:38 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Speaking of 1984


[13-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
A bunch of Twitter Blue Checks fighting over wether or not 2+2 equals 4 or 5


[13-Aug-20 09:41 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
People were trying to cancel other people who said 2+2 equals 4


[13-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Twitter is a literal Mental Illness generator


[13-Aug-20 09:43 PM] aperture_tech#5247
truth, twitter is a memetic virus


[13-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No, it's how Twitter stays in business. They drive people to insanity and mental illness on purpose.


[13-Aug-20 09:44 PM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck are you talking about


[13-Aug-20 09:44 PM] wren#0114
twitter


[13-Aug-20 09:44 PM] aperture_tech#5247
have you ever been on twitter?


[13-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Twitter works just like the Arcades of yesteryear. It's a similar model.


[13-Aug-20 09:45 PM] aperture_tech#5247
twitter makes money by generating outrage


[13-Aug-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
you said people are fighting over a math problem. who, and where


[13-Aug-20 09:45 PM] byte[]#2610
and more importantly, how tf is that relevant to #politics


[13-Aug-20 09:45 PM] aperture_tech#5247
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a33547137/why-some-people-think-2-plus-2-equals-5/


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Blue Checks were fighting over wether or not 2+2 equals 5 or 4


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] aperture_tech#5247
if you want me to think 2+2 equals 5, I need a proof


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
no they're not


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
And those who said 4 were called Transphobic...I shit you not.


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] byte[]#2610
if you read the fucking article they're talking about how mathematical abstractions work. you deliberately misinterpreted the author's point in order to create a strawman


[13-Aug-20 09:46 PM] wren#0114

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[13-Aug-20 09:47 PM] wren#0114
i'd like to think this is trolling


[13-Aug-20 09:47 PM] aperture_tech#5247
that's not how mathematical abstractions work


[13-Aug-20 09:47 PM] aperture_tech#5247
you make a mathematical claim, you need a proof


[13-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
A blue check math academic came out and said it was 5


[13-Aug-20 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, the twitter people are crazy, but the main point of the article is not about mathematics, it's about how math relates to the real world


[13-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
And a shit storm started


[13-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
They think Math is Racist, Homophobic and Transphobic....I don't know how


[13-Aug-20 09:49 PM] aperture_tech#5247
math relates to the real world by being math


[13-Aug-20 09:50 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It is the only objective thing, and relating it to the real world in that way does little else beyond just making meaningless arguments


[13-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Back to my point on how Twitter works. 70% of all the activity on that website is conducted by 10% of the sites userbase. These people tweet over 150 times a day.


[13-Aug-20 09:52 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
They are addicted to the point of mental illness


[13-Aug-20 09:52 PM] wren#0114

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[13-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ngl fortnight is actualy a fun game


[13-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
So when Twitter wants people to invest, they show them all the activity on the site.


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
all battle royale games suck


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
i'm allright with them makeing an 1984 refrence


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"blue check"

That thing Trump has, yeah


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
90% of blue check opinions are shit


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] wren#0114
blue check is a sign for big corps nowadays more than anything


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
also lol atleast twiter doesn't make people brain washed troglodites who think makes are bad


[13-Aug-20 09:54 PM] wren#0114
in-crowd of marketing teams are the only ones who get it now


[13-Aug-20 09:55 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather blue checks only be corporations, because then it would at least be an attempt at remaining apolitical. Like it or not, the blue check gives weight to posts


[13-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I actually wish Twitter bans Trump. Cuz if they do...Twitter dies over night.


[13-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
i mean, that's probably a fair estimate but I'd also say about 99% of anime girl avatar opinions are shit so eh :^)


[13-Aug-20 09:56 PM] aperture_tech#5247
90% of everything is shit


[13-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly, I think that if Trump breaks the rules he ought to be banned just like any random nobody. He shouldn't get special privileges for being the president.


[13-Aug-20 09:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump would implode on himself like a dying star if he were banned from twitter


[13-Aug-20 09:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't disagree, but those rules much of the time make twitter more of a publisher than a platform - section 230 is about platforms


[13-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The publisher/platform distinction doesn't matter as much as you think it does. Websites can have rules regardless of what they are.


[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It might be funnier to give him a temporary suspension. He'd whine and holler about being suppressed but then continue to use Twitter anyway once his suspension was up.


[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Section 230 is designed to make it so places can *be* platforms.


[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] PwnyPony#6185
UK ministers having a meltdown over icecream company talking about migrants.
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[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
So they can enforce rules like against Trump.


[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] aperture_tech#5247
nah they should just say that a platform allows the same freedom of speech that is set out by the constitution


[13-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
But not be beholden to being an outright publisher.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Being a publisher is ass.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It means that you hav to vet every single thing on your site.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] aperture_tech#5247
That's a platform, not this shit where the rules are selectively enforced


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If that's the case, then you have no control over your own website?


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
Section 230 was created because there were cases of sites being punished *because* they tried to stop bad behavior.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```what job lmao```
professional anti-Trump protester. Will be relevant the next 20 years or so at least.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Nebbie#8545
It was meant to giv platforms the option to go after such bad behavior.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I make a site, and am not a publisher. Ergo, I'm not allowed to ban anyone ever.


[13-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's the logical conclusion of what you're proposing. Message boards can't set conduct rules of any kind.


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] aperture_tech#5247
If you want to make a platform, make a platform. If you want to curate, then it's a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Prior to section 230, if you removed something from your platform because it was, like, borderline illegal


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
suddenly you became responsible for every post.


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What is a forum? Publisher or platform?


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
After section 230, you can curate stuff, and still be a platform.


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] aperture_tech#5247
platform


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Is any forum with rules violating the first amendment then?


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
You are arguing against having section 230 at all.


[13-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Nebbie#8545
Which is bad in many, many ways.


[13-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Sites cannot go without any rules at all.


[13-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't work.


[13-Aug-20 10:03 PM] aperture_tech#5247
otherwise it isn't a forum - the only thing that needs to be stopped is what violates laws where the forum is based


[13-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
People end up doing actually illegal shit when sites don't go after anything.


[13-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hell, it doesn't even have to be ideological. It could even be rules like "Stay on topic" "Don't double-post" "Don't necro-post" etc.

All of those would violate the poster's unlimited freedom of speech. Why even have mods, *ever?*


[13-Aug-20 10:04 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and you can have a site, but that isn't a platform if you don't give equal speaking rights to all


[13-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so I make a thread on your twitbook site that says I'm going to go around harassing gun owners.


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the thread I lay out how I am going to literally shake them until they agree to not own guns.


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
ok


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
And you don't do anything?


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
You just...leave the thread up?


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Like, that could get real people killed.


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
You said something, that is fine


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Nebbie#8545
Some stuff needs policing, even when it's what people said.


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's why we have people who are supposed to stop actions


[13-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let's say I ran a Super Mario Bros. forum and some jerkoff joined and started spamming the forums about how Sonic is way better and fuck us for liking Mario. Just being an antagonistic little shit and not contributing to the community in any good-faith way.

Should I moderate his behavior or would that be violating his first amendment rights?


[13-Aug-20 10:06 PM] aperture_tech#5247
It's his right to say sonic is better and fuck you for liking mario. If you curate what he says you are a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's nonsense. A message board isn't a publisher. It's a place where people talk about things. 

That doesn't preclude it from having rules.


[13-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This discord server has rules and I don't think we could very well call it a "publisher."


[13-Aug-20 10:07 PM] aperture_tech#5247
discord in my opinion is a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:08 PM] aperture_tech#5247
they have banned people over things they have said that did not violate US law


[13-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, they have rules that are not strictly limited to "no crime."


[13-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Individual servers can also have their own rules on top of that. But I still wouldn't call this chat community a publisher in any sense.


[13-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's just a place where people gather and informally talk about things.


[13-Aug-20 10:09 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no crime? more like no thoughtcrime


[13-Aug-20 10:10 PM] aperture_tech#5247
either way, the internet was not designed to monitor peoples thoughts. The internet is not a big truck


[13-Aug-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trucks are designed to monitor people's thoughts?


[13-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, good. Because the internet - being a series of tubes - doesn't do that. Individual sites do, though!


[13-Aug-20 10:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or rather, their public posts, not their thoughts.


[13-Aug-20 10:11 PM] aperture_tech#5247
The internet is the new forum of free thought - if so-called platforms do not allow for that, then it ceases to be a place of value


[13-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think to truly have freedom, you have to let people form their own communities with their own rules. If we do not allow rules, then no community has any identity or boundaries. Nothing would separate any chat room, forum, or social media site from another because there'd be no rules or guidelines to establish any sort of specific norms or culture there.


[13-Aug-20 10:13 PM] aperture_tech#5247
What I want to have is sites where I can actually see what I'm signing up for, not a place that says it can filter my words at will based on a nigh unreadable terms and conditions page that is intentionally unreadable


[13-Aug-20 10:13 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and I agree - but those communities are publisher imo


[13-Aug-20 10:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
`The publisher/platform distinction doesn't matter as much as you think it does. Websites can have rules regardless of what they are.`
Isn't a publisher liable for what they publish?


[13-Aug-20 10:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now, the common objection paired with this publisher vs. platform argument is that a publisher is responsible for anything they do not delete. This is not strictly true.

Youtube is definitely not legally liable for every copyright violation that gets uploaded, so long as it makes a good-faith effort to enforce its rules against piracy.


[13-Aug-20 10:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obviously it's not going to catch every single violation.


[13-Aug-20 10:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not talking about what the law is, I am talking about how it should be


[13-Aug-20 10:18 PM] aperture_tech#5247
also, copyright violations are covered by the law of the land


[13-Aug-20 10:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
As for how it should be, I strongly believe that internet platforms should be as free as possible.


[13-Aug-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without rules the internet would become a mass of illegal chaos where forums are bombarded with CP and gorror and no one can stop it without becoming legally liable for it themselves


[13-Aug-20 10:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Are rules that go beyond the scope of "don't break the law" ever justified?


[13-Aug-20 10:20 PM] aperture_tech#5247
the rules exist: that's what laws are for. I'm not arguing for every site to be forced to allow everything, I am arguing that sites that curate content beyond the laws of the land makes them a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think by your definition, *every* site is a publisher. There's not really any site that truly has no rules except for not breaking the law.


[13-Aug-20 10:21 PM] >That Guy#3386
One of the defining qualities of a publisher is that a publisher edits its content.


[13-Aug-20 10:21 PM] aperture_tech#5247
What I want is a site where that isn't a thing


[13-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even 4chan has mods that make sure people are on-topic and not just spamming crap.


[13-Aug-20 10:22 PM] >That Guy#3386
A web forum that intentionally censors content is acting as a publisher.


[13-Aug-20 10:22 PM] aperture_tech#5247
you could make a case that banning spammers is in line with the rule of law, at least within america


[13-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, not spammers in the advertising sense. Just stupid off-topic behavior.


[13-Aug-20 10:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
either way, I think platforms need to trend towards freedom. When it comes to off topic assholes, that's kinda part of freedom


[13-Aug-20 10:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^


[13-Aug-20 10:24 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Freedom does not always mean great discussion - freedom is taking the good with bad


[13-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but I'm saying by your definition a "platform" that truly allows everything has yet to exist.


[13-Aug-20 10:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
If you don't want to be liable, you shouldn't be editing content.


[13-Aug-20 10:24 PM] >That Guy#3386
Tech companies want the best of both worlds right now.


[13-Aug-20 10:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, I'd take part in that platform - shit that is so bad that it should be banned is already banned within the legal system


[13-Aug-20 10:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^


[13-Aug-20 10:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I think there are plenty of not-illegal things that I wouldn't want in my communities.


[13-Aug-20 10:25 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's cool, but that's why you would be a publisher

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[13-Aug-20 10:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
Child porn, threats of violence, ISIS propaganda, etc is already illegal.


[13-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, I guess. "Publisher" just seems like a super-odd thing to call an informal discussion community.


[13-Aug-20 10:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
If you take the role of an editor, you're liable for anything you don't edit, because editing content makes you a publisher.


[13-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, sure? The communities I run don't have anything illegal in them so I don't think I'd have anything to worry about there.


[13-Aug-20 10:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
By definition.

A platform is like a telephone company: no editing, no liability.


[13-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd say the internet itself is a platform, and is home to many publishers within that platform.


[13-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Who have rules as lenient or as strict as they like.


[13-Aug-20 10:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
Then each of those publishers within the internet should be treated as such


[13-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Aren't they? I mean, they have public terms of service when you sign up for them. It's not like they hide the fact that they have rules.


[13-Aug-20 10:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
No.


[13-Aug-20 10:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
if you curate content beyond what the law stipulates, you are publishing

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[13-Aug-20 10:30 PM] >That Guy#3386
Twitter is a platform, legally. They're not liable for things like ISIS propaganda or threats of violence.


[13-Aug-20 10:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's the divide - liability


[13-Aug-20 10:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
If you shoulder what is wrong vs right, you are taking on the duties of a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
however if they try to stop the spread of harmful conspiracy theories that dont break the law, they should be liable and sueable as a publisher?


[13-Aug-20 10:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
If Twitter decided it wanted to edit/censor content on a political basis, that would turn it into a publisher, and then all of the CP/Slander/Terrorism lawsuits would slam down on them.


[13-Aug-20 10:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes, they should be


[13-Aug-20 10:32 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yes


[13-Aug-20 10:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically no one is allowed to enforce non law related rules without being sued


[13-Aug-20 10:32 PM] aperture_tech#5247
because deciding what is harmful is publishing, if you are curating what people say


[13-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think when it comes to very large publishers, liability should be based on whether or not they're making an earnest effort to delete illegal content, not whether *any* of it gets through.


[13-Aug-20 10:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not calling for constant litigation - that may be an issue with the legal system


[13-Aug-20 10:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
constant litigation is the flood gate you're opening here


[13-Aug-20 10:33 PM] >That Guy#3386
>"earnest effort"
No.
They can't have it both ways.
If they want to become enormous tech monopolies, they should have ***all*** the liability that comes with that.


[13-Aug-20 10:34 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather have freedom even if it comes with constant litigation. That's what is more important to me


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's either you edit/censor content as a publisher, or you leave things be as a platform. There is no middle ground.
Tech companies have been on legal thin ice lately.


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, you're not going to get that. I think the realistic option is to provide oversight to make sure they're reasonably staying on top of illegal content.

One person posting something illegal and it remaining up for a few hours before a mod deletes it - just to use a very extreme example - shouldn't be a criminal liability on the part of the host.


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you realize this applies to small back channel forums with no ability to afford constant litigation, right?


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's just because tech corporations have lobbyists that have been letting them ignore the law.


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this doesnt just apply to twitter and facebook


[13-Aug-20 10:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
Either you edit content or you don't.


[13-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah

Again, small fandom message boards could become "criminal" enterprises because some guy signed up, posted something illegal, and literally any span of time passed before a mod could delete it.


[13-Aug-20 10:37 PM] aperture_tech#5247
small back channel forums should strive to be platforms then

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[13-Aug-20 10:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
Illegal content is permissible to remove if you're a platform.


[13-Aug-20 10:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
Non-illegal content, however, is not.


[13-Aug-20 10:37 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If every community was a platform, then nothing would stop it from being flooded with stupid racist idiots who just want to spam the n-word over and over


[13-Aug-20 10:37 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and yes, I have been saying that illegal content is permissible to remove


[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
>being afraid of trolls


[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welcome to the sonic fandom forum, i;m afraid it;s flooded with Trolls spamming the N word, you'll just have to speak around them


[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
>wanting a community that isn't just edgy children


[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] aperture_tech#5247
that's kinda how freedom works, you can't remove certain things because you dislike it

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[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^^^


[13-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You can if you own the community. We ought to be able to own communities.


[13-Aug-20 10:39 PM] aperture_tech#5247
And once again, you can have your community, but if you curate it beyond complying with the law, you are publishing


[13-Aug-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That guy over there indirectly threatneing to lynch black people? He's fine because he isn;t targeting specific people, tyou'll just have to live with it because if i remove it I get sent to prison for threats of lynching!


[13-Aug-20 10:39 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes, he would be fine, because that's how freedom of speech works


[13-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, but if I'm "publishing," that shouldn't mean that if one single person posts something illegal one time on my forum that I'm responsible for it if it. Especially if I do delete it when it comes to my attention.


[13-Aug-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I'm sorry little children on this education forum, this is a porn board now


[13-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Even just "Stay on topic" is curating. Sorry, you're a publisher now.


[13-Aug-20 10:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
If you were a platform, you'd still be responsible for illegal content like child porn or terrorism.

Being a platform stops you from being liable for civil lawsuits.


[13-Aug-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not child porn, regular porn


[13-Aug-20 10:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
You wouldn't be liable, so long as you had the "I am 18" warning.


[13-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
An "I am 18" warning on a community for early childhood education.


[13-Aug-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except they wouldnt because it was a child education board!


[13-Aug-20 10:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
Then treat yourself as a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then what happens when one of the dumb kids who posts there shares a piece of pirated music? If it takes me a few minutes to delete that post, am *I* now a criminal?


[13-Aug-20 10:43 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no


[13-Aug-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep


[13-Aug-20 10:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
Then delete that music as it comes up and there won't be a problem.


[13-Aug-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by law you are now the pirater of said music


[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] aperture_tech#5247
because if they did, they would break the law - complying with the law would not make you a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, okay. Then what does publisher liability even mean, as long as it's okay so long as I'm making an earnest effort to delete illegal content as I see it?


[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
Also, you'd be liable for piracy as a platform too.

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[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] aperture_tech#5247
a publisher is liable when they curate content beyond the extent of the law

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[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^^^^^^


[13-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How am I any *more* liable then?


[13-Aug-20 10:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
Because you're taking the tile of an editor.


[13-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If platforms are also just as liable for hosting illegal content.


[13-Aug-20 10:45 PM] aperture_tech#5247
because they are breaking the law


[13-Aug-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Publisher

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[13-Aug-20 10:46 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Publisher: curates content beyond the letter of the law
Platform: does not curate content beyond what breaks the law


[13-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but as long as I'm consistently deleting illegal content as it's reported to me, I'm covering my bases. One thing slipping by me shouldn't reasonably make me a criminal.


[13-Aug-20 10:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
If you're a publisher, people could sue you for slander or other things that are done with your medium.


[13-Aug-20 10:46 PM] aperture_tech#5247
it shouldn't, and that's not what I am arguing for


[13-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Has this ever happened? 

Has someone ever sued a forum owner for slander that an individual forum *poster* made?


[13-Aug-20 10:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
Yes.


[13-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Opponent#3498
```I make a site, and am not a publisher. Ergo, I'm not allowed to ban anyone ever.```
I make a site, and am not a publisher. I achive monopoly and replace freedom of speech in a sizeable portion of infospace with corporate guidelines.


[13-Aug-20 10:47 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Yes, people have


[13-Aug-20 10:48 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but section 230 prevented that kind of shit - section 230 applies to platforms


[13-Aug-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider" (47 U.S.C. § 230).


[13-Aug-20 10:49 PM] >That Guy#3386
Those suits happen all the time, but most of them don't work because the largest internet forums are treated as platforms, because they do not edit that content.

However, if they edited content and behaved as publishers, anying that was posted by their users would be considered to come out of their mouths.
Once you take the role of an editor, you become responsible for editing.


[13-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The largest internet forums have TOSes and rules though?


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes and they are publishers


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so what you are suggesting is that we reppeal section 230


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] aperture_tech#5247
What I am suggesting is changing 230, not getting rid of it


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But.

But you're saying they *do not* edit content. But they clearly do sometimes.


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or at least delete/prohibit certain types of it.


[13-Aug-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except your argument misses the point of 230 to begin with so it would basically be a repeal


[13-Aug-20 10:51 PM] aperture_tech#5247
What I'm saying is they do - deleting and prohibiting beyond the extent of the law is publishing


[13-Aug-20 10:51 PM] >That Guy#3386
A lot of them are in gray areas, which is why we're having this conversation in the first place.

This legal distinction is nearly a century old. It was established to distinguish between telephone companies and newspapers.


[13-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Opponent#3498
enforcement of the law vs enforcement of arbitrary set of rules.


[13-Aug-20 10:51 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^^


[13-Aug-20 10:51 PM] >That Guy#3386
`What I'm saying is they do - deleting and prohibiting beyond the extent of the law is publishing`
This.


[13-Aug-20 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet under 230 they are not counted as publishers


[13-Aug-20 10:52 PM] aperture_tech#5247
A platform should allow a platform for anyone - whether it be an authoritarian racist or a burn it all down communist - so long as they follow the law of the land


[13-Aug-20 10:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
`and yet under 230 they are not counted as publishers`
Because they've been lobbying really, really hard.


[13-Aug-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so basically the internet is now itse;lf a publsher and must be shut down because it violated too many laws


[13-Aug-20 10:53 PM] aperture_tech#5247
how did it?


[13-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think you're going to get that with a private corporation, ever.

The best thing I could suggest is some government-funded public social media site whose only rules are "don't crime."


[13-Aug-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as a publisher it is liable for every crime committedf upon it


[13-Aug-20 10:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no it isn't


[13-Aug-20 10:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
The government wouldn't do that.
And if it did, I wouldn't want to use it.


[13-Aug-20 10:54 PM] aperture_tech#5247
the internet is a network of interconnected computers - ICANN has never been responsible for any crimes committed over the internet


[13-Aug-20 10:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
The internet isn't one company.


[13-Aug-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it is one system, and as such would be itself a publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:55 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and ICANN has never tried to restrict anybody from making a site


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think that'd be the most ethical way to establish a (laws aside) rules-free neutral platform though instead of forcing companies to abandon their rules.


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no shit it is a system, but it's a platform - it is literally a platform


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] aperture_tech#5247
because they never said you couldn't make a site they disagreed with


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is a platformt hat hosts websites full of mods who curate them, as such publisher


[13-Aug-20 10:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
Just tell companies that they can either edit content as publishers, or make it free as platforms.


[13-Aug-20 10:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
Let them choose.


[13-Aug-20 10:57 PM] aperture_tech#5247
it's a platform that allows people to make what they want on there


[13-Aug-20 10:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
The internet is the very definition of a platform.


[13-Aug-20 10:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
`mods`
Those mods don't work for the internet.


[13-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but the logical conclusion of that is "If they're a publisher, they immediately become responsible for any abuse their members post." which is unreasonable.


[13-Aug-20 10:58 PM] aperture_tech#5247
They do not curate the sites that are created - ICANN isn't liable if somebody makes a site that says "hitler did nothing wrong"


[13-Aug-20 10:58 PM] aperture_tech#5247
And I agree with that - there is nuance in this


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
hosting providers _are_ responsible if someone registers a site for the sole purpose of spam, despite sending spam generally not being illegal


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but that is where the laws of the land come in


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why is it unreasonable? All they have to do is not edit content.
*Or* they could choose to edit content, and then accept liability for what is said by them.


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] byte[]#2610
and peers will simply blackhole the site


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and there is legal precedent for preventing spam


[13-Aug-20 10:59 PM] aperture_tech#5247
The framework is in place


[13-Aug-20 11:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
said legislation only covers marketing and non solicitated pornography spam


[13-Aug-20 11:00 PM] >That Guy#3386
Good enough.


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] aperture_tech#5247
no it doesn't though


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's reasonable to want to edit content and also make a good-faith effort to moderate illegal activity. It is impossible to prevent 100% of that from getting through, but I think that as long as publishers quell most of it and have some kind of oversight to show that they're not just *letting* this stuff go through unchallenged, they should have some wiggle-room there.


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
Platforms don't edit content.


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] aperture_tech#5247
automated spam would fall under the established laws - the kind of spam one would want to prevent


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I- I know

I'm talking about publishers.


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
Then they should hire more mods.


[13-Aug-20 11:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except it wouldnt be automated, it would be made by users trolling forums


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
If they want to be publishers.


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but

Regardless of how many mods you have, once a piece of illegal content is up, it's *up* until a mod deletes it.


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ergo, a crime has already happened. Ergo, being a publisher inherently sets you up for crime.


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think publishers should automatically be liable and litigateable for what people say on there - they just aren't platforms


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's a risk that comes with being a publisher


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] aperture_tech#5247
they shouldn't be given the same protections as a platform


[13-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not a risk. The way you frame it, it's an inevitability.


[13-Aug-20 11:03 PM] aperture_tech#5247
well then they should strive to be a platform


[13-Aug-20 11:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
And illegal content is okay to remove even as a platform. Illegal content isn't the issue.


[13-Aug-20 11:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then small start up sites get sued into the ground before they can even begin to function because they as a publisher become liable if they dont immediately delete an illegal post


[13-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But if I'm a platform, then I can't have any sort of guidelines for my community. What's my community about? Who cares! I can't say, because telling people what they should and shouldn't be posting - even if it's just to stay on topic - makes me a publisher and therefore criminally liable for anything that happens there.


[13-Aug-20 11:04 PM] >That Guy#3386
Start up sites are small enough to safely monitor their whole site


[13-Aug-20 11:04 PM] aperture_tech#5247
have you been reading what we are saying"?


[13-Aug-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes you want twitter and facebook to be counted as publishers but dont take into account small sites that arent big tech corporations

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[13-Aug-20 11:05 PM] aperture_tech#5247
well if they take the responsibility of being a publisher they should shoulder it


[13-Aug-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should shoulder unimaginable legal fees for wanting a forum to talk about sonic fanfic


[13-Aug-20 11:06 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, otherwise they should make a platform


[13-Aug-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they should just let rampant abuse flood their forum!


[13-Aug-20 11:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Moderation is what makes the internet remotely enjoyable to use. It's what gives communities structure and direction.

Rules-free platforms would be total anarchy, where only the most aggressive and meanspirited of us would have a voice. Everyone else would be shouted down.


[13-Aug-20 11:06 PM] aperture_tech#5247
either way, in that case, the legal system isn't immutable


[13-Aug-20 11:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'm done here.

The distinction between a publisher and a platform is clear. Publishers edit content and are thus liable for it. Platforms do not edit content, and are thus not liable.

If you think there should be a third category for modern social media companies, write to your senator.

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[13-Aug-20 11:07 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, moderation is fine, but moderating content beyond what is legal is publishing


[13-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but

Like, just being a dick isn't illegal. I think it's fine - even kind of expected - for most online communities to moderate that.


[13-Aug-20 11:08 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, and that's publishing


[13-Aug-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
welp, let;s repeal 230 then and see how the internet falls apart without it


[13-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but if they're publishers then they're liable for anything illegal that *does* happen there which is an untenable position to be in.


[13-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a no-win situation. I can either have a community flooded with rampant off-topic abuse or I can be criminally responsible for any violation that does happen there.


[13-Aug-20 11:09 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Well then the legal system needs to change
And I'm not calling for a repeal of 230


[13-Aug-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except you are, by definition what you are propsing is a repeal of 230


[13-Aug-20 11:10 PM] aperture_tech#5247
A repeal of 230 would make everybody a publisher


[13-Aug-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes


[13-Aug-20 11:10 PM] aperture_tech#5247
so I am not


[13-Aug-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that would be everyone, everyone moderates their websites as such everyone is a publisher


[13-Aug-20 11:11 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, they would be


[13-Aug-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so it;s a repeal of 230


[13-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just don't think you're ever going to see Twitter or Facebook or *any* site - because remember, even the chan imageboards curate content beyond the scope of the law - become rules-free platforms.

I really do think the only way to achieve this would be some public government thing, not a private company.


[13-Aug-20 11:12 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but law doesn't happen overnight, it would take time. In that time, they would be able to decide if they want to continue to publish or stay a platform


[13-Aug-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless everything works retroactively


[13-Aug-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in which case their time as a moderated site forces them into the publisher category regardless of intent to carry on with it


[13-Aug-20 11:13 PM] >That Guy#3386
Back from walking the dog.

Most big changes in legislation give people a few years to adapt.


[13-Aug-20 11:14 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, but a moderated site is a publisher


[13-Aug-20 11:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[13-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In your opinion, does a truly unmoderated platform exist yet?


[13-Aug-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which means retroactively, every website becomes a publisher by definition of law


[13-Aug-20 11:14 PM] aperture_tech#5247
they are publishing because they decided to curate what people say. And yes, it does - it's called the public square


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay, online platforms.


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Does a rules-free (aside from the law) online platform exist, anywhere?


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] aperture_tech#5247
with the changes in technology, the way laws work must keep pace with the time


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
I think that there are publishers that pretend to be platforms, and have been skeeting-by on a generous interpretation of the law.


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
Due to incredibly potent lobbyists


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and yes, they do - however they are relegated to tor platforms, places that exist outside the legal system


[13-Aug-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you havent met much of congress, have you?


[13-Aug-20 11:16 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not arguing about congress and their immutability


[13-Aug-20 11:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is your plan requires a congress that knows what the internet is and what it does


[13-Aug-20 11:16 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's congresses job to decide what a publisher/platform is,


[13-Aug-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and there inlies the problem!


[13-Aug-20 11:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
If they're too incompetent to do that, then god help us.


[13-Aug-20 11:17 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not arguing their competence - I just want to establish the difference between publisher and platform


[13-Aug-20 11:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
We're only having this argument because they haven't updated it in a century.


[13-Aug-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without 230 the whole internet falls apart and basically self destructs


[13-Aug-20 11:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
They should update it, but they shouldn't ignore it.


[13-Aug-20 11:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
You don't need to repeal it.


[13-Aug-20 11:18 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and I don't necessarily think that a publisher should instantly be sued for curating their site, but hiding behind 230 while curating content is an issue

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[13-Aug-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except that by legally categorizing publishers AND PLatforms, you have already repealed it


[13-Aug-20 11:19 PM] aperture_tech#5247
alright, then it should be replaced by something better


[13-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, okay. I think as long as you give publishes some leeway as long as they're making a good-faith effort to moderate illegal content, I don't think we even disagree.


[13-Aug-20 11:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
They've been making tons of money with minimal effort by treating themselves as "platforms" when they're really acting like publishers.


[13-Aug-20 11:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's fine


[13-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Twitter should be able to continue banning whatever the hell they want, *and* should be pressured to clamp down harder on outright illegal content. By all means, slap the publisher label on them and get them to work doing a better job of cleansing the site of criminal posts.


[13-Aug-20 11:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of your favorite politcians are now banned form twitter due to being legal liabilities


[13-Aug-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is great, so that balances out


[13-Aug-20 11:21 PM] >That Guy#3386
"Some leeway" for publishers is a reasonable request, but the law itself also needs to be updated to clarify this.

My favorite politicians are the ones that don't tweet.


[13-Aug-20 11:21 PM] aperture_tech#5247
absolutely - I don't want to stop staff site from being able to operate in terms of what they want - I just think a platform is important


[13-Aug-20 11:22 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^^^^^^^^^


[13-Aug-20 11:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only platforms that woudl exist are those websites that dont have a forum or text platform to begin with


[13-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, honestly, I don't think we even disagree. I think we disagree on what *should* happen - you want them to become a platform, I think they should remain a publisher because that's their vision, man.

By all means, someone make a rules-free platform if they want to, but it shouldn't be forced onto someone.


[13-Aug-20 11:22 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Either way - I don't care if politicians are banned from twitter - I want a place where I can respond to them positively or negatively or however the fuck i want


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I think section 230 needs to be looked over


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
A publisher registering as a platform to avoid liability is like a gas station registering as a church to avoid taxes.


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
and I don't want it gone


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It absolutely tickles me that the "free speech" alternatives to twitter like Gab ended up banning porn. Guess they liked some moderation after all.


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, gab also had issues, they were a publisher


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[13-Aug-20 11:23 PM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy pray to the oil gods

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[13-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd be fine with it. Let social media sites continue to moderate and have rules, but as publishers, have them hire on more mods and do a better job of cracking down on illegal posts. Give some leeway so the whole site doesn't get shut down if they miss something here and there, but ultimately keep the pressure on to have them clean out that shit.

Honestly it sounds like the best-case scenario.


[13-Aug-20 11:26 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, that's fair


[13-Aug-20 11:26 PM] >That Guy#3386
Then I agree.


[13-Aug-20 11:26 PM] aperture_tech#5247
give them time to decide to be a publisher or a platform - it doesn't need to happen overnight


[13-Aug-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
deal, we repeal 230 and make it work that way


[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] jlun2#8758
>  have them hire on more mods 
@Dr. Mechano https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52642633

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Facebook to pay $52m to moderators over PTSD
The class-action lawsuit covers moderators working in four US states from 2015 until now.
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[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] aperture_tech#5247
we change 230, not repeal it


[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
God damn.


[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] jlun2#8758
they prob need to pay way more than right now too
its giving mods ptsd for min wage


[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] aperture_tech#5247
also, this was never over illegal content, that shit shouldn't be allowed on platforms


[13-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s horrifying things that are perfectly within the realms of the law


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Illegal content is what a publisher would be liable for, the argument goes.


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
Imagine having to sift through every horrible cringe post that ever gets posted on facebook all day. The pay had better be great.


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So that's why illegal content is relevant in this discussion.


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, so? Horrifying shit will always exist, that's part of freedom


[13-Aug-20 11:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Freedom to choose not to be around horrifying shit is also important.


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
Turn of the computer.


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Most of derpi would be gone if somebody else was deciding what was horrifying

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[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are different types of freeedom


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I like the computer


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
freedom is not a weird homogonous blob of a word


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
derpibooru has rules anyway


[13-Aug-20 11:29 PM] aperture_tech#5247
there's freedom and there isn't, the best kind of freedom is striving for that
and yes, derpi is a publisher\


[13-Aug-20 11:30 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona>
> A CONTENT MODERATOR WORKING FOR COGNIZANT IN ARIZONA WILL EARN JUST $28,800 PER YEAR.
anyone want to try
> Collectively, the employees described a workplace that is perpetually teetering on the brink of chaos. It is an environment where workers cope by telling dark jokes about committing suicide, then smoke weed during breaks to numb their emotions. It’s a place where employees can be fired for making just a few errors a week — and where those who remain live in fear of the former colleagues who return seeking vengeance.


[13-Aug-20 11:30 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I understood their ban on anthro foalcon - that is the law of the land in france
And also, yeah moderators should be paid more


[13-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And I think they *should* be a publisher. If they became a platform then they could no longer mandate that posts have to be pony-related.


[13-Aug-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people now hypothetically have the freedom to shoot up entire buildings, but people also have the freedom to be safe. one of those freedoms contradicts the other freedom


[13-Aug-20 11:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
Hmmmmm, maybe I could sift through shitposts all day for that much money...


[13-Aug-20 11:31 PM] aperture_tech#5247
exactly - that's why I think section 230 needs changes so publishers can't be sued to the dust


[13-Aug-20 11:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
^^^^^


[13-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah yeah, we don't really disagree


[13-Aug-20 11:32 PM] aperture_tech#5247
If you are robbing someone else of their autonomy, it isn't really freedom


[13-Aug-20 11:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
but that's an argument for another time


[13-Aug-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which one is havign their autonomy robbed?


[13-Aug-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's a matter of perspective


[13-Aug-20 11:33 PM] aperture_tech#5247
the person who got killed - their right to live was robbed


[13-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Autonomy is simple enough. "Your right to swing your fist goes as far as my face."


[13-Aug-20 11:34 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, and that's why it doesn't really apply to publisher vs. platform


[13-Aug-20 11:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"freedom" is a vague notion, it;s why the first amendment comes with legal definitions


[13-Aug-20 11:35 PM] aperture_tech#5247
And I've never said platforms should allow people to break the law, I'm just saying they should not be extrajudicial


[13-Aug-20 11:36 PM] aperture_tech#5247
Anyway I'm gonna heat me up a hotpocket and go and do some publishing


[13-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but you're also not arguing that publishers shouldn't get to exist, which is fine

I have no problem with a platform existing. I just don't think Twitter needs to become one.


[13-Aug-20 11:36 PM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't think they need to either


[13-Aug-20 11:37 PM] aperture_tech#5247
But I want to know my politicians are on a platform where I can object


[13-Aug-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/511924-justice-dept-accuses-yale-of-discriminating-against-white-and-asian

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Justice Dept. accuses Yale of discriminating against white and Asia...
The Trump administration on Thursday accused Yale University of illegally discriminating against white and Asian American applicants and threatened to file a civil rights lawsuit against the school if it refused to change its admissions pract
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[13-Aug-20 11:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422723057564516352/743562055990247494/Screenshot_from_2020-08-13_14-07-02.png

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[13-Aug-20 11:47 PM] aperture_tech#5247
what in the fuck


[13-Aug-20 11:48 PM] >That Guy#3386
Simply screwing over small businesses to make room for big corporations to buy up everything in their wake.


[13-Aug-20 11:49 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/besf0rt/status/1293592730560593920

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prison stocks went up right after kamala harris was confirmed as vp
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[13-Aug-20 11:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
I unironically think Kamala Harris is the worst democratic politician for both the working class and for people of color. Her approach to policing and prosecution is not only draconian, but counterproductive to the needs of society.
Being black doesn't make you good for black people.


[13-Aug-20 11:52 PM] aperture_tech#5247
brb gonna invest in private prisons


[13-Aug-20 11:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
"lol, just throw them all in prison"
>t. Harris


[13-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Can we rename this channel to Ponitics?

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[13-Aug-20 11:53 PM] aperture_tech#5247
yes I second that


[13-Aug-20 11:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/trump-has-until-the-close-of-business-friday-to-prove-vote-by-mail-fraud-in-pennsylvania-federal-judge/

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Trump has until the close of business Friday to prove ‘vote-by-mail...
CNN’s Jim Sciutto reported Thursday that President Donald Trump, his campaign and the Republican Party was given 24 hours to prove that there is vote-by-mail fraud in Pennsylvania. New: Federal judge in Pennsylvania orders Trump campaign & GOP to produce any evidence of vote-b...
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[14-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Every state should have voting by mail *every* election, regardless of covid.


[14-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We ought to want as many voters to be represented as possible.


[14-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The only way for Republicans to win is by artificially limiting voting. Gerrymandering, closing polling places, this rigmarole with mail-in ballots.  It's an absolute sham. 

When the population is actually represented, they lose.


[14-Aug-20 12:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I agree with that


[14-Aug-20 12:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
voting by mail shouldn't be an issue - if they are worried about voter fraud just require ID


[14-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Mail-in ballots are more reliable than voting machines, as far as I understand.


[14-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Opponent#3498
...I will read all that shit about platforms vs publishers as I'm far from the end but I just wanted you to know that I was _amazed_ that you used the argument of 'startup companies' when the core discussion was about communication monopolies. This is PragerU level of describing capitalism on the basis of a flower shop servicing a customer. You people ought to know better. 

Back to reading now.


[14-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://youtu.be/p_fFSJAHkLU

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The Hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fFSJAHkLU
EXCLUSIVE POLL: Trump approval reaches 45 percent
On today's What America's Thinking, a new Hill-HarrisX poll finds President Trump's job approval remains steady at 45 percent. GOP pollster and Partner at the Tarrance Group, B.J. Martino, joins Hill TV to discuss public opinion on the issue.

This survey was conducted online ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_fFSJAHkLU/sddefault.jpg


[14-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He's about to reach 46%


[14-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Individual polls aren't really newsworthy. *Aggregate* polling data is what counts. Individual outliers - high or low - are just a piece of that aggregate.


[14-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Holy shit :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ The aggregate puts him at around 42%.

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[14-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Weighing all the polls together rather than just one.


[14-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
It was 40% last night :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well yeah, it's been hovering between 40-45 pretty consistently.


[14-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Just a reminder Obama had like 37% approval rating by this point in time in 2011


[14-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This actually isn't true. You can see how he compares to Obama, Bush, and other presidents on that page.


[14-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Obama's aggregate approval never went down to 37%. His lowest looks to be about 42.


[14-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Again, maybe some individual polls put him lower. I'm looking at the aggregate.


[14-Aug-20 12:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
he's very close to obama
Either way trump isn't the disease, he's the symptom, the system is broken


[14-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Doesn't even matter


[14-Aug-20 12:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I wish Trump would have woken people up to that, but they just talk about how awful trump is rather than talking about how awful the system is


[14-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's pretty close, but Trump is still behind where Obama was at every point in his presidency. He's behind Bush too. He *briefly* surpasses Clinton at a couple of points but is mostly behind him too.


[14-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
God the Democrats are the definition of failure. They couldn't even find someone within their own party that was smarter then Trump. I would not have mind BootyGig. I would rather vote for a Gay then a Corpse. :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump exposed a lot of people to horrible truths, though people woudlr ather focus ont rump than the horrible truths he;s exposed


[14-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Remember, Trump is only as powerful as congress lets him be.

Trump may be the mascot of what's wrong with this country in a sense, but Mitch McConnell and his cronies are every bit as much to blame, if not more.


[14-Aug-20 12:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like how the senate is over run with corrupt oligarchs who let him do whatever he want so long as it;s profitable to them


[14-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
It's going to be 2016 all over again


[14-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The data doesn't suggest that. Anything could happen, and I'm not writing Trump off, but he's doing much worse than he was 4 years ago.


[14-Aug-20 12:13 AM] >That Guy#3386
`The data doesn't suggest that.`
So, 2016.


[14-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nope.


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He's in denial :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The polls in 2016 put Clinton one standard polling error away from a loss.


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Actually sorry, you're right


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
538 repeatedly acknowledged that the gap was close and that Trump had a very good chance of winning. The data was fine. People just misread it.


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
I saw people reporting 90+ percent.


[14-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
It's not 2016 all over again....it's worse then 2016

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[14-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And those people were wrong.

538 gave Trump about a 1/3 shot. Respectable, realistic odds. Again, all the polls aggregated showed he was only one polling error away from winning. Clinton was ahead, but not by much.


[14-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Biden is objectively polling much better than Clinton was. This does not guarantee he'll win.


[14-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But it's not correct to say "2016 all over again" or that 2016's polls were "wrong." The polls indicated a close race, and it was one.


[14-Aug-20 12:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Who even cares about polls?


[14-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Cuz the people who are doing the polls cannot find independents and moderates. The polls are more fucked up then 2016. 63% Americans are scared of openly talking about thier politics....the Left has no problem talking about their politics.


[14-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Statisticians, I suppose.


[14-Aug-20 12:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Polls don't effect how I vote.
Polls shouldn't matter.


[14-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"The Left" barely exists in this country.


[14-Aug-20 12:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think we should focus on being less partisan


[14-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
My Antifa friend said he's going to vote for Trump to spite the Dems :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>The Left barely exists in the country

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[14-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
imagine thinking American liberals are the left


[14-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Why are you talking about yourself?


[14-Aug-20 12:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The left in the US mostly comprises liberals, some angsty dudes posing as ANTIFA, with actual active communists/socialists as a minority


[14-Aug-20 12:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's a good thing


[14-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Liberals are center-right at best.


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Republicans are far right and consider corporate Democrats "radical socialists" which is a laugh riot


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
They make about about 28% of the country. From Neo Libs to Communists. The Far Left making up about 8% according to The Hidden Tribes Report.


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
So you aren't wrong


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The bulk of this country is Center Right leaning


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If actual communists dominated the left, people wouldn’t be talking about who to vote for — they’d be talking about organizing strikes, mutual aid associations, even arming themselves


[14-Aug-20 12:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
lol


[14-Aug-20 12:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
american communists have always been a joke - even if they were legit, they'd be buried


[14-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Democratic party is so right-leaning that a socdem like Bernie is too spicy for them. "Radical socialists" indeed.


[14-Aug-20 12:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If they were legit they wouldn’t be a joke


[14-Aug-20 12:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, they'd be the butt of it.


[14-Aug-20 12:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok?


[14-Aug-20 12:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bernie was so extreme for them msnbc compared him to an invading nazi force


[14-Aug-20 12:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It'd be much like Mannerheim and how he rolled on the reds in the Finnish civil war


[14-Aug-20 12:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[14-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
in-fucking-credible


[14-Aug-20 12:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but probably with much worse consequences - it would rally the American public to react not with bipartisanship but by taking far more extreme measures


[14-Aug-20 12:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, because no matter who’s at the top, they’ll send the freikorps if the workers get way too organized. What also matters, though, is if they can beat them down


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you are from brazil, no?


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Fire em


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
All of these old fucks, they gotta go


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's the thing about America - nothing can start a revolution here


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These old fucks are Trump's goons.


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i wish i coudl fire half of the senate... out of a cannon and into the sun


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why not?


[14-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Democrat and Trump Goons...they both gotta go


[14-Aug-20 12:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
all politicians


[14-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No just the ones who really aren't fire to deal with this situation


[14-Aug-20 12:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but yeah, it's a uniquely american mindset


[14-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Leave the young ones I'm and get more young folk in there


[14-Aug-20 12:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
America might be quite capable of treading on working class organization but this can only work for so long


[14-Aug-20 12:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's like explaining sisu to somebody who isn't finnish


[14-Aug-20 12:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you can kind of describe it but it's still not exactly what you are trying to say


[14-Aug-20 12:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
americans are too complacent


[14-Aug-20 12:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the truth is, there isn't really a working class in America


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Germany was also a politically mature nation in the 20th century with its own competence and ruthlessness towards working class organization, and it still fell for the spell of national socialism


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
re: revolution

Basically, people hate how it is here, but not *enough* to throw their lives away to change it. We're kept comfortable enough and have *enough* to lose that it's not worth it.


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
not in the traditional sense


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s mroe of a paid slave class really


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and yeah, Dr Mechano hit what it is


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I’m aware of the peculiarities of the American working class, yes


[14-Aug-20 12:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's the one


[14-Aug-20 12:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but it's more than just that - national spirit is another thing


[14-Aug-20 12:28 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Man...I can't wait to see the meltdowns if Trump wins again.


[14-Aug-20 12:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
try and convince an american to fall into your cause entirely


[14-Aug-20 12:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there will be mroe than meltdowns, that;ls for sure


[14-Aug-20 12:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Talisa, spite's not a very good political philosophy.


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It worked for him in 2016


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Neither is Neo Liberalism


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump seems to be gearing up for literal nuclear war


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I wish


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Elite Establishment Neo Liberalism gave us Trump


[14-Aug-20 12:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
National spirit depends on a basic and tolerable level of living standards, and is product of politico-material realities. It is hard to remove ideologically, yes, but not impossible i believe


[14-Aug-20 12:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but those standards exist for most of us


[14-Aug-20 12:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
For now, yes


[14-Aug-20 12:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lifting nuclear arms treaties with russia, trying to reestab;lish long defunct uranium mines, trying to restart nuclear missile testing


[14-Aug-20 12:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the US still has the highest GDP in the world


[14-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I wonder which if you guys is a secret Trump supporter


[14-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't have much national spirit anymore.

All the pledges and anthems and flags and other patriotic pageantries ring hollow now.

I don't hate my country by any means, but I'm kind of disillusioned with the idea of us being "the good guys" that was drilled into my head in school growing up.


[14-Aug-20 12:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no shit, but complacency is too good


[14-Aug-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i can;'t really call myself the stereotype definition of patriotic


[14-Aug-20 12:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Any posturing from Americans about being a communist comes from the millions spent by the USSR to indoctrinate boomers in the 60s


[14-Aug-20 12:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[14-Aug-20 12:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the USSR spent less on the vietnam war than how much they spent on infiltrating american academia


[14-Aug-20 12:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl, this is a VERY stupid argument and i advise you to not use it


[14-Aug-20 12:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not arguing it


[14-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Crow#5457
@Talisa Pierce, why do you say that?


[14-Aug-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The argument that media reporting on the Vietnam War was communist friendly is a myth and a misrepresentation of the realities of the conflict


[14-Aug-20 12:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I wasn't arguing that


[14-Aug-20 12:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Academia, not media is what I said


[14-Aug-20 12:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And any argument that academia is infiltrated by communists is kinda pointless because of how powerless academia is nowadays


[14-Aug-20 12:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Student movements never succeed politically


[14-Aug-20 12:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
powerless nowadays - but to boomers it was everything. Eventually students graduate, make families. Some make policy


[14-Aug-20 12:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Some become teachers and pass ideals on


[14-Aug-20 12:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And the majority of boomers just forfeited their leftist credentials


[14-Aug-20 12:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Have you seen how pathetic the Studente for a Democratic Society (SDS) movement was? They were more torn apart by internal ideological splits than by outside interference


[14-Aug-20 12:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what are these leftist credentials? caring about the working class? That's been gone a long time. Maybe it's identity politics which has been long confused.


[14-Aug-20 12:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But that's what I'm saying - the american left isn't the left - neither is the american right actually the right


[14-Aug-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Leftist credentials include being engaged with the working class and organizing with them around a transformatory agenda


[14-Aug-20 12:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what matters in the US is constantly being correct: that's all that matters


[14-Aug-20 12:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which more often than not depends on being in the class itself


[14-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think *some* idpol is fine inasmuch as it concerns policy; nondiscrimination ordinances for example. That's a concrete legal *thing* you can do.


[14-Aug-20 12:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
class, race, gender all mean nothing in US politics
The south still flies the rebel flag because they still genuinely believe they were in the right


[14-Aug-20 12:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
idpol has a place, but we are at the breaking point


[14-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Fundamentally incorrect. It took them until this year to say "hey, you can't fire someone just for being gay anymore"


[14-Aug-20 12:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Class should, imo. It already does to an extent, albeit in its own warped way


[14-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Six months ago it was still legal to do that in many states.


[14-Aug-20 12:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, but guess why? because of religious reasons - because those religions were in their followers minds objectively right


[14-Aug-20 12:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can accept discourse on gender and race, but that should be subordinate to the discourse on class and capitalism imo


[14-Aug-20 12:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wk9z/the-post-office-is-deactivating-mail-sorting-machines-ahead-of-the-election

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Good thing nobody's predicting a huge surge in mail any time soon.
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[14-Aug-20 12:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not talking about the way it should be but in america everybody is a millionaire down on their luck


[14-Aug-20 12:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitalism-in-crisis-how-to-fix-capitalism-for-workers-2020-6/

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Only 25% of Americans think capitalism is good for society
Business leaders like billionaire Ray Dalio have said capitalism is in crisis. A new survey shows most Americans agree, and they want specific change.
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[14-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd be fine with exceptions for explicitly religious institutions like churches or mosques having some freedom to discriminate on hiring. But if you're a religious owner of a non-religious business you shouldn't be able to do it in that context.


[14-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
like it makes sense that a church would want to only hire christians, I get that


[14-Aug-20 12:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's why there will be no grand revolution in the US unless there are drastic changes-and also polls showed that Hillary had a 98% chance to win


[14-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But a Christian-owned grocery store shouldn't take religion into consideration (or race, gender, sexuality, etc. either) That's the difference to me.


[14-Aug-20 12:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I agree with that


[14-Aug-20 12:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but I'm talking about national spirit


[14-Aug-20 12:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's what makes the US difficult to understand for people outside the country. That isn't meant to be demeaning to anybody else's opinions, but there isn't a chance of some grand revolution to shake up the political system. It's American exceptionalism in action


[14-Aug-20 12:47 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, i do not abide by blanquist delusions of possible revolution now


[14-Aug-20 12:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's exactly why the American left isn't really the left - because to them, they are the left, and they will say fuck you if you don't get it - they are American, and others can't tell them what to do


[14-Aug-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It’d take a pretty significant breakdown in the structures that hold US society together


[14-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
```Basically, people hate how it is here, but not enough to throw their lives away to change it. We're kept comfortable enough and have enough to lose that it's not worth it.```
re: revolution. History has also taught people that revolutions don't pay. You personally, who will fight and die for it, will not get anything out of it. If you're anyone of prominence, you'll be purged as a potential competition. A common footsoldier will simply be discarded, and gotten rid of if they attract attention.


[14-Aug-20 12:49 AM] aperture_tech#5247
US society is all about individualism but it's also about hypocrisy - the biggest mistake is telling an American they are wrong


[14-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Opponent#3498
revolutions are a messy business and only _some_ of the uninvolved win, outside of the new ruling elites of cours.e


[14-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Kingirishpotato#0666
The revoloutins are ok aslong as its for a good cause


[14-Aug-20 12:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The only way I would participate in a revolution is if the goosesteppers were at my door, or somehow had significantly affected my life


[14-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
yes, that is the only correct approach.


[14-Aug-20 12:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
also, all successful revolutions were a good cause historically. All the failed ones were bad


[14-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Opponent#3498
history is written by survivors, after all.


[14-Aug-20 12:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's what it boils down to in the end


[14-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What it boils down to though is a bunch of people *sternly disapproving* of the internment camps but not really doing much about them other than voting and hoping that *might* change things.


[14-Aug-20 12:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's really fucking hard to get enough people to give a shit to drastically change things


[14-Aug-20 12:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done


[14-Aug-20 12:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
even the American revolution was done by an incredibly low amount of the population


[14-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Opponent#3498
```Germany was also a politically mature nation in the 20th century with its own competence and ruthlessness towards working class organization```
Germany as a nation was 40-ish years old when WW1 broke out. After that and the treaties, all bets were off, everything that happened began there. So, no, a very different reason.


[14-Aug-20 12:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the worst thing about trying to start a revolution is it could backfire horrifically


[14-Aug-20 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Germany as a nation state was new, yes, but as a nation it was arguably older


[14-Aug-20 12:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
like it did in germany - the nazi party would have gone nowhere if not for the communists. I'd rather have shit remain milquetoast than go to where that did


[14-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've marched in BLM protests and I do think the movement *has* led to policy changes (Colorado stopping qualified immunity, certain cities stopping no-knock warrants, etc.), but they've been so incremental and sparse. Usually you *nudge* society, more than fundamentally change it. I guess enough nudges over time make a difference though.


[14-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
That's true, a lot of commies backed up the Nazis


[14-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, if the revolution happens to _fail_, everything you can imagine will be justified by it.


[14-Aug-20 12:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919

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[14-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those types are still around, the Nazbols. We don't claim them though.


[14-Aug-20 12:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah... as time passes, however, the likelihood of a revolution failing gets smaller imo


[14-Aug-20 12:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I was talking about this - not the communists backing up the nazis, the conflict between extremes


[14-Aug-20 01:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The working class is actually larger today than it was a hundred years ago, courtesy of China, Latin America, Africa industrializing


[14-Aug-20 01:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
there won't be a global revolution


[14-Aug-20 01:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Communism has too many flaws to work as it is on paper


[14-Aug-20 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It might not look as powerful as it was because there is an interest in sweeping working class grievances under the carpet worldwide


[14-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Opponent#3498
as time passes, the likelihood of revolution failing _increases_, as surveliance gets better. This isn't a peasant revolt that's just unfocused anger and only stops when you kill everyone involved. It's about destabilising the movement until it fizzled out. Promise some minor concessions and increase internal security.


[14-Aug-20 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China goes through large strike waves every month or so


[14-Aug-20 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same for the other aforementioned regions


[14-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Opponent#3498
and it doesn't do much, does it?


[14-Aug-20 01:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And the people's republic was founded on what kind of ideals?


[14-Aug-20 01:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The PRC was not the child of working class organization after the 1920’s, actually


[14-Aug-20 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
After significant purges in the urban Chinese proletariat by Chiang Kai-Shek and his clique, Mao had to rely on peasants and petit-bourgeois intelligentsia


[14-Aug-20 01:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The PRC is much more nationalist than it is supposedly communist


[14-Aug-20 01:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, because shit changes
I'm not pretending that the US is still some freedom loving beacon - it isn't. At this point the tree of liberty should have been watered many times over. Nations tend more towards nationalism because nationalism keeps them alive - they operate on Darwin's law


[14-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Well who would you rather have rule the world? The United States, or China? If we destabilize and fall apart. China will make their move.


[14-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```Any posturing from Americans about being a communist comes from the millions spent by the USSR to indoctrinate boomers in the 60s```
instant spicy take just 2 posts later.


[14-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Opponent#3498
those really do come in waves...


[14-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yes, it will destabilise and fall apart as soon as Trump's re-elected. Well, not _as soon_, but rather quickly indeed. In large part because of that same spite that drives you and yours to support him.


[14-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Yeah, the Democrats gotta pay


[14-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
By all means necessary


[14-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
and to answer your question, yes, given those two options I'd absolutely choose US. It's just that electing Trump would make that outcome _unlikely_.


[14-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
well, you're at least honest enough to admit it's not about any practical outcomes, but just a case of betrayed ideals. That's familiar, and unfortunate.


[14-Aug-20 01:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather keep the US on top - at least in the US we have some agency


[14-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
how about neither


[14-Aug-20 01:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And that's why I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that Trump is looking at decades old defense treaties and rethinking them


[14-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
false dilemma, you can do both


[14-Aug-20 01:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
There will always be a nation at the top and that nation will always suck super hard


[14-Aug-20 01:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather not it be the one that literally is putting people into loyalty concentration camps and censoring the internet


[14-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
If our nation sucks...why do more people move here then leave? :thonking:


[14-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
good PR, I imagine.


[14-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Opponent#3498
well, can't be _recent_ PR because, if anything, Trump personally is a major argument against doing it.


[14-Aug-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america has had great international PR for the last century


[14-Aug-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
said PR is now dead as shit though


[14-Aug-20 01:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the US doesn't suck


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well, maybe it does, but it's better than any other nations


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the other reason less people leave is becAUSE to leave america costs a shit ton of money


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
thanks to the second amendment


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't suck compared to places it firebombed in decades past :twismug:


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the US costs money because you pay for quality


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Or maybe...it's cuz they believe in this Nation more then you


[14-Aug-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m talking abotut he price of leaving, not entering


[14-Aug-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
passports are upwards of $300


[14-Aug-20 01:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
firebombing is the ultimate american way of saying I'm right and you are wrong
Also you shouldn't pay to get in if you don't like it 🙂


[14-Aug-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately, i came in free by birth


[14-Aug-20 01:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you can leave for free


[14-Aug-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unfortunately i cannot leave for free


[14-Aug-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless you mean death, in which case, that;s super fucked up


[14-Aug-20 01:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but you wouldn't be able to go to another country afterwards


[14-Aug-20 01:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and yes I was, sorry for being dark


[14-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Talisa Pierce 
to be honest, USA has extremely good PR.
 I even believed that USA is great country, until I looked at problems no one covers, but here. 
It is quite shit.


[14-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"If you don't like it leave it" ignores the idea that people want to stay and improve it


[14-Aug-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no healthcare but omg i can own a gun! That clearly solves every problem i have!


[14-Aug-20 01:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it does


[14-Aug-20 01:35 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah yes just shoot the cancer out of your body


[14-Aug-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sorry grandma, we can't afford a hospital bill. *Blam Blam*


[14-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Shoot the mental illness from your body


[14-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
also re: firebombing. It's important to remember US owes it's major success to winning 2 world wars not fought on it's territory.


[14-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Shoot the heart attack out of your body


[14-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Opponent#3498
literally the entire world bar South America is playing at a disadvantage, and SA isn't really playing.


[14-Aug-20 01:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah because the united states always wins


[14-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[14-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Here's the issue with that. As much as I would love to have the health care of other nations. The issue is we have the most advanced medicine and medical technology in the world. Countries with these kinda free healthcare systems aren't as advanced. They usually sent their patients to us.


[14-Aug-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we lost vietnam


[14-Aug-20 01:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nah


[14-Aug-20 01:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
we just got bored and left. It was funny at first though


[14-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
It's a trade off


[14-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
VN was a PR defeat but inconsequential ultimately. Not compared to the first half the century.


[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> Here's the issue with that. As much as I would love to have the health care of other nations. The issue is we have the most advanced medicine and medical technology in the world. Countries with these kinda free healthcare systems aren't as advanced. They usually sent their patients to us.

Damm bruh you got the whole free health care squad laughing


[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our defeat of the ussr was also a slow burn on our country due to how it seperated wages from inflation


[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many countries with higher standards of living compared to the US have free healthcare


[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
if the US had free health care global healthcare would be in the dark ages

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[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[14-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Opponent#3498
no, that's probably even correct, in some fringe '10 people in the world can do it' cases. Yeah, it's very likely the cutting edge is in US (I don't honestly know if it is, but it stands to reason). The 99,(9)% though...


[14-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This post made by Germany, France, UK, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Japan gang


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Free health system is clogged. Look at Canada, where you hav eto wait for months. The same UK.


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the R&D budgets of US pharma companies is the highest in the world. US pharma produces more than any other nation


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Crow#5457
the only thing that the US has on any other western country on the medicine side of healthcare is first access to new developments


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's not a perfect system


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for overinflated profits when it takes 10 cents to make eahc pill


[14-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I had to wait months to get diagnosed with ocd by a doctor?


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
and that medicine eventually makes its way globally anyway


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Crow#5457
after a few years


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
News to me. I saw a doc like in a few weeks


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it wouldn't come out unless somebody paid for it


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
```and yes I was, sorry for being dark```
tbh one of the reasons I'd unironically support 2A is easy access to that option. Surviving a suicide attempt usually makes you _wish_ you didn't.


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america alreayd has long wait lines for medical, we jsut pay for the line as well as the visit


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
thank me for paying for your medicine non americans


[14-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Opponent#3498
and a firearm is very reliable if used correctly.


[14-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And with paid medicine you will think twice about making needless visits.@Gordon Freeman


[14-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
americans don't pay for non-americans' medicine


[14-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Crow#5457
drop the bad faith bullshit now


[14-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What


[14-Aug-20 01:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you don't support the second amendment? The only way I'd want to stop it was if every other country and the US government actually put down their weapons


[14-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I got my meds, I see my doc to give every few months and it takes like 4 mins


[14-Aug-20 01:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's literally not bad faith, and yes I was being reductive as hell, but in terms of economies and pharma R&D the US is on top


[14-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Crow#5457
@Эᴚ|∫, the problem with that is that it leads to no one going for anything at all because even just visiting the doctor is prohibitively expensive


[14-Aug-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i havent even been able to get myself checked for anything to be able to get medicine


[14-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
imagine being in debt beacuse of healthcare costs.

This post made by Canada gang


[14-Aug-20 01:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I could have a tumor somewhere and i would never be able to afford the ability to find out


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The money needs to come from somewhere


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@prism stryder(intexda) shit sorry to hear that


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
taxes


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Libertarians and Marxists laugh at Anti Gun Neolibs :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Waiting 3-6 months for dentist. This post has been made by Canada gang.


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It would be nice if the people making the meds were more like salk


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is literally the point of taxes


[14-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Crow#5457
and yes, claiming that america pays for the rest of the world's medicine through exorbitant prices to justify not fixing healthcare is incredibly bad faith


[14-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
not to mention blatantly untrue


[14-Aug-20 01:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's not their prices, it's R&D costs - the pharma companies are very corrupt


[14-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That arugment also misses the fact that other nations do rd health care


[14-Aug-20 01:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but at the same time somebody is paying for it - and I'm not claiming that the US is the only country with companies bankrolling R&D


[14-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Isn't Trump trying to lower the cost of drugs? Or is that a bad thing now?


[14-Aug-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now imagine if scientists didnt have to go through pharma everytime thye wanted to reseARCH a medicine?


[14-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Crow#5457
the US taxpayers primarily fund healthcare innovations via government grants, so that argument falls flat on its face as well


[14-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings-articles/university-subject-rankings/top-medical-schools-2020

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Top Medical Schools in 2020
Discover the best medical schools in the world in right now, based on the recently released QS World University Rankings by Subject 2020.
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[14-Aug-20 01:49 AM] aperture_tech#5247
how are scientists going to eat if somebody isn't paying for them and the tools they use to develop that medicine?


[14-Aug-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tax employment payments?


[14-Aug-20 01:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they would still be employed they just wouldnt have to go through pfizer everytime they want to research shit


[14-Aug-20 01:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
this is the point I'm trying to make - companies like pfizer drive that development


[14-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
University of Oxford, University of Cambridge,Karolinska Institute, UCL,Imperial College London. All are the best places in the world that develops medical methods and are all in Universal heatlth care nations


[14-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>literally protecting Big Pharma

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[14-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK201025/

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Funding Sources and Structures to Build Public Health
In 1914, New York City’s Commissioner of Health Herman M. Biggs remarked that “public health is purchasable” and that “within natural limitations, a community can determine its own death rate.” That powerful idea resonates today—a community’s or a nation’s inhabitants (or thei...
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[14-Aug-20 01:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah but how much medicine do those universities make


[14-Aug-20 01:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not protecting big pharma, but I honestly want to know what the alternative is


[14-Aug-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and they wouldnt need to if we funded research labs directly


[14-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
the "alternative" is already done


[14-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
it's government funding


[14-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
pharmaceutical companies basically triple dip


[14-Aug-20 01:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we had about 5 labs recently who wanted to develop a covid vaccine and their biggest hurdle was that pharma companies were worried it wouldnt be profitable


[14-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
They invent medicine there. They teach people how to be doctors and shit. With out them there is no medcien at all.


[14-Aug-20 01:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i may be wrong on the number


[14-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
they have their own private funding, they have the government funding, and then they use that government funding to create new medicine and gouge US taxpayers for its use, even though they literally paid for the development of that medicine


[14-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But but but free healthcare bad!!!!"


[14-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Mmm corp boots taste good"


[14-Aug-20 01:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
capital drives this development, and honestly I trust a company trying to generate capital more than a government


[14-Aug-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capital prevents cures from being found


[14-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Crow#5457
and it's only really a problem in the US, every other country has governments that at least attempt to protect their citizens' interests, the US government leaves people free to be ravaged by the wolves of big pharma


[14-Aug-20 01:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
why would you trust a company to fund its own research into the effectiveness of its products


[14-Aug-20 01:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I do agree though, it does incentivize making treatments rather than cures


[14-Aug-20 01:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
companies was long term ineffective treatments, cures dont produce profits like they want


[14-Aug-20 01:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/653040598168895500/743230334916755496/video0.mp4

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[14-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
When corporations stop rapeing people call me. Untill then I'm going to keep on looking at those greedy scum sucking piles of ass with hatred.


[14-Aug-20 01:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But the truth is a lot of other countries would not have the array of medicines they have if the US system was not how it was


[14-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Oh you mean like insulin? Oh wait Canada invented that.


[14-Aug-20 01:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Never said the US was the only one developing drugs


[14-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This also gets into a problem with a fictional consept, time travel. Where if someone doesn't invent something someone else well.


[14-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Crow#5457
this is why your argument that the current state of healthcare is okay because there is somehow an increased benefit from the higher costs falls apart, it doesn't make any sense on any level


[14-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So the idea of "the us invented it so there for all the worlds free health care is run by it" is bullshit beacuse someone else would have. Other countrys pour in trillions to R&D not just the US.


[14-Aug-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
regardless of america, certain medications would likely have been found eventually since every country is researching medicine


[14-Aug-20 02:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I guess we all could have done with AIDS treatments in 2070


[14-Aug-20 02:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america just "found them first" because copyrighting that shit is profitable


[14-Aug-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
other countries still had to find their own version because they didnt want to deal with american corporations over charging them


[14-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'd like a citation on AIDS treatments not existing till 2070 please


[14-Aug-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of our medicines are an exclusive varient to us because other countries developed a different formula because our medicine is overpriced bullshit


[14-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Phelan#7647
Other countries can afford healthcare because the US pays for their defense.


[14-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
^


[14-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Russia can't do shit for its people (not that its government cares) because of the global hegemony games it plays


[14-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ditto China


[14-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

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Healthcare in the Republic of Ireland
Health care in Ireland is two-tier: public and private sectors exist. The public health care system is governed by the Health Act 2004, which established a new body to be responsible for providing health and personal social services to everyone living in Ireland – the Health S...


[14-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Non nato country has free health care


[14-Aug-20 02:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
thank me for being american you non americans, it's not like I care though 😊


[14-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Phelan#7647
Countries not in the US sphere of influence tend to have shitty healthcare systems.


[14-Aug-20 02:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
only 2 countries in scandinavia are part of nato


[14-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>They want to give Trump a Nobel Peace Prize


[14-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Africa is in the US sphere and it still has bad healthcare


[14-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Phelan#7647
Not in a defensive pact, no.


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Africa is not a true scotsman


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what countries are part of scandinavia?


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Norway Sweden Denmark


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe Finland


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Phelan#7647
Sweden Norway Denmark Finland (sometimes)


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nope


[14-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not Finland


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
not finland and it's nice to see I see eye to eye with TSP on something


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Phelan#7647
Well, I mean that they're sometimes grouped together.


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/trump-should-be-front-runner-for-nobel-peace-prize-obrien/

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Robert O’Brien says Trump should be ‘front-runner’ for Nobel Peace ...
National security adviser Robert O'Brien said Thursday that President Trump should be the front-runner for the Nobel Peace Prize because of his work in the Middle East.
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[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:wheeze:


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that you falsely claim that the US paying for other countries' defenses is why those countries can offer free healthcare, but any attempt to move defense spending to social spending is met with a wall of republicans who scream about how much the US would supposedly be giving up if defense spending was decreased


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Stop gassing protesters and pissing off Iran. Then we talk


[14-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I mean, if Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for killing Children, i dont see why not lol


[14-Aug-20 02:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think there shouldn't be so much money spent on defense


[14-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Obama's peace prize was a joke.

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[14-Aug-20 02:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Government spending is out of control, and the fact that the government drives so much into defense R&D vs. medicinal R&D is infuritating


[14-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Speaking of, daily reminder Trump is responsible for an 8 year olds death https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki

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Eight-year-old American girl 'killed in Yemen raid approved by Trum...
Anwar al-Awlaki’s daughter, Nawar, may have been fatally shot in intelligence operation on al-Qaida that left at least 14 people, including a US commando, dead


[14-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Commander-in-chief of anything


[14-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Winning the "Peace Prize" ever


[14-Aug-20 02:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the US should not be a war machine, and it shouldn't treat us like dirt


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Peace Prize is for like, the leaders of a post-genocide country or child activists, not major leaders IMO


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Richest third world country


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Were they there to kill the 8 year old?


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, bringing down defense spending to 2% of GDP is fine by me.


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even obama didnt want the peace prize he was given but accepted it out of politeness


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Phelan#7647
That's our obligation to NATO.


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
She died and he gave the order to start the mission. He is responsible. Full stop.


[14-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
was she the target?


[14-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
She died. He gave the order. All consequences of the order being given are his fault.


[14-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
did Trump sign the paper work to have that child killed?


[14-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Crow#5457
> On the campaign trail, Trump endorsed killing relatives of terrorist suspects, which is a war crime. “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” he told Fox News in December 2015.


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Crow#5457
reminder that trump supported the killing of enemy families before he was even elected


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He signed the order to attack the house.


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Phelan#7647
So is Obama directly responsible for killing a 16 year old American child?


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
https://www.amnestyusa.org/is-it-legal-for-the-u-s-to-kill-a-16-year-old-u-s-citizen-with-a-drone/

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Is it Legal for the U.S. to Kill a 16-year-old U.S. Citizen with a ...
A lawsuit has been filed against CIA and military officials over the deaths of a 16-year-old and two other US citizens killed in drone strikes.


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
She died as a conscience of that action.


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you think anyone here defends Obama?


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
a *consequence


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Obama signed the paper work to kill that 16 year old boy


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes


[14-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, people can dislike two things at the same time


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm just giving another comparison.


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop being a cuck TSP


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And trump killed an 8 year old


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Phelan#7647
I disagree that either of them are directly responsible.


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Both these things are bad. Child murder is bad.


[14-Aug-20 02:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I'll disagree as well - they had some responsibility


[14-Aug-20 02:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but this shit is the chain of command


[14-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-misleads-us-defense-spending-nato-bud/

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PolitiFact - Donald Trump misleads on US defense spending, NATO budget
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-mostly-false.jpg


[14-Aug-20 02:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a game of telephone


[14-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Phelan#7647
Shit happens, nobody can change that. As long as they weren't directly ordering the child to be killed, I don't think they're responsible.


[14-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Phelan#7647
Or they weren't like raiding an orphanage or something.


[14-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
trump first claimed that the US paid for europe's defense spending on the campaign trail in 2016, and he tried to prove it... by comparing total defense spending budgets for each NATO country


[14-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
> NATO does have things it calls its own. There is a civilian staff and headquarters, and military equipment such as surveillance aircraft. There are bases, command headquarters and a program to beef up military capabilities in certain countries above and beyond what they would need for their own defense.
> 
> Each of the 29 members contribute to those costs through an agreed cost-sharing formula based on the country’s gross domestic product. As the member with the largest GDP, the U.S. contributed 22 percent of NATO’s common funding. Not far behind is Germany with about 15 percent, then France and the United Kingdom with about 10 percent.
> 
> With common costs of about $2.5 billion in 2017, the U.S. share of about $550 million doesn’t change the picture, since Europe’s share was a much larger $1.8 billion. That gap only weakens Trump’s argument.


[14-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Wow trump was wrong about something? Shocker.


[14-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Phelan#7647
Most European countries don't pay the requested 2%. The US pays more than that


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
so?


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
politifact isn't a viable source

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[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
prove it isn't viable


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's biased

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[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prove it


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Crow#5457
how so?


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Its based


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
These bitches gotta pay what they owe, or trump is going to throw them to the Russian Wolves


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Phelan#7647
> so
That means that the US is footing the bill.


[14-Aug-20 02:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
alright


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
the US is only footing 22% of the bill


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You mean like germany did and then Trump spent billions on pulling out?


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
how much money is that?


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Phelan#7647
The US is spending more than their requested share.


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
I literally just linked it


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Phelan#7647
I think the US should pay less.


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Crow#5457
> With common costs of about $2.5 billion in 2017, the U.S. share of about $550 million doesn’t change the picture, since Europe’s share was a much larger $1.8 billion. That gap only weakens Trump’s argument.


[14-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
US military is a business, a way to funnel tax money into massive corps


[14-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But politafact bad beacuse it proves orange man was wrong about something


[14-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Good, then bring our Troops home

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[14-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
that fucking autocorrect


[14-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Phelan#7647
Politifact bad cause they literally thought it was important to fact check "CNN buys industrial sized washer to spin the news"


[14-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/

https://youtu.be/WEMCYBPUR00

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money printer go brrr 1080p
couldn't find the hd version
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[14-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The people who work for these media corporations are some of the most mentally deranged people you can find.


[14-Aug-20 02:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Trump - rated a false for claiming there weren't that many women, there aren't that many children refugees coming from syria - politifact reason "confusing two groups of people"
Barack Obama, rated mostly true for claiming women make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns - politifact response was only saying that was the biggest gap


[14-Aug-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what do either of those have to do with eachother?


[14-Aug-20 02:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
oh you want more examples?


[14-Aug-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
those were completely unrelated to eachother


[14-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Phelan#7647
They're bending the truth against and for the speaker, respectively.


[14-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Aperture, do most of the articles you see confirm your beliefs? Does everything you see confirm your biases?


[14-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/feb/02/keith-ellison/rep-keith-ellison-correct-demographic-overview-syr/

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PolitiFact - Most Syrian refugees are women and children, as Keith ...
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-true.jpg


[14-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Does it all tell you what you want to hear?


[14-Aug-20 02:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Trump - "Our real employment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6" rated false - reason is no credible number rated that high
Sanders - "African  American youth unemployment is 51 percent. Hispanic youth employment is 36 percent" - rated half true - reason is not by the official statistics


[14-Aug-20 02:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so yes, politifact is kinda biased maybe?


[14-Aug-20 02:27 AM] ononim#8141
all of the currently alive US presidents are war criminals

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[14-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jan/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-state-union-says-women-make-77-cents-/

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PolitiFact - Barack Obama, in State of the Union, says women make 7...
PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter.
https://static.politifact.com/politifact/rulings/meter-mostly-true.jpg


[14-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or maybe Bernie doesnt bullshit people like Trump :twismug:


[14-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Crow#5457
and you don't think there's any difference between "no credible number" and "no official statistics"?


[14-Aug-20 02:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently /mlp/ is hella mad rn at some select users here
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[14-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[14-Aug-20 02:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that isn't politics though


[14-Aug-20 02:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the /mlp/ thing


[14-Aug-20 02:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is? It deals exclusively with this channel


[14-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Hi 4chan


[14-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>People constantly referencing 1984, oblivious that they are living in Brave New World


[14-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When is /mlp/ not mad


[14-Aug-20 02:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's 4chan, why the fuck would you care what they have to say?


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Phelan#7647
~~When you don't randomly ban stuff for no real reason~~


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just assume most of 4chan is an idle swarm of hornets until provoked


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
/pol/ sucks,/tg/ is ok


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
Damn someone is obsessed with me lmao


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] ononim#8141
why care about what /mlp/ thinks


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk, it's funny and it deals directly with this channel which i feel is worth mentioning


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
round table between /mlp/ and derpi, it needs to happen


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's cute, I fully admit I had cringe takes early 2019 tho


[14-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Crow#5457
>people constantly referencing 1984, oblivious that george orwell was a revolutionary marxist antifascist who personally fought and killed fascists and advocated for democratic socialism up to his death


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
But this is really obsessive and weird, like I posted here, often baiting and shitposting to the point I should've been warned more for lots of 2019 and 2020


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
huh, so we actually have Golodomor deniers here :D


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Orwell's faith in communism was shaken by what he saw in the Spanish civil war


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
live and learn.


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] ononim#8141
I told you sis, I told you about intentionally shitty takes just to piss of assholes


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Diss, be careful with shitposting


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can't remember whether I was genuinely that cringe in early 2019 or I was shitposting to piss off people


[14-Aug-20 02:31 AM] ononim#8141
anyway are we talking about politics or nuh


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
But probably both.
Ima say both, I had a cringy tankie esque phase


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've never been on another site where _replying_ to off-topic stuff got you banned


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Shitposting can only work if you think it through correctly and if you have the timing


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] ononim#8141
@aperture_tech pretty sure he remained being a trot


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
It was a phase mom


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Crow#5457
no one has ever denied the holodomor here, but that wasn't the entirety of the history of the USSR


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Fuck jannies.


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] ononim#8141
diss had a moment


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
based


[14-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, Golodomor deniers is our own regional brand of Holocaust deniers, to put things into perspective. Usually those burn hard for 'Soviets did nothing wrong ever and we killed such a beautiful nation'


[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Homodomor


[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Crow#5457
it would be incredibly disingenuous to say that famine and starvation was the entirety of the USSR's history


[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump is a failure as a US President. Remember June 2nd 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs&feature=youtu.be

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It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
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[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>Legal Eagle


[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/mail-in-ballots-portland-mailboxes-removed-usps-trump-voting-election/283-dc46af71-d048-4ba2-bcdb-c3d36ff26725

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VERIFY: Are USPS mailboxes being removed from Portland streets?
A Northeast Portland resident spotted a worker removing mailboxes earlier this month. USPS confirmed they're removing some mailboxes.
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[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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Police Use Tear Gas To Clear Peaceful Protestors From Lafayette Squ...
On Monday, as the George Floyd protestors demonstrated against racial police violence in Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square, police officers used tear gas and rubber bullets to drive away the demonstrators, so that President Donald Trump could make an appearance for a photo o...
https://upolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Trump.jpg


[14-Aug-20 02:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
Now I know Stalin was 100% cringe instead of believing he was 80% cringe and thought he was worth defending somewhat sometimes


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
I read a bad tankie historian book then I think, fucking ML cult smh


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] ononim#8141
man so many new people I have no idea about
Anyway, wonder how things in Belarus will end


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but that's the thing about orwell - despite being a socialist he was able to pen several books that examined the flaws with the system


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow oh, absolutely. It's just that when it _did_ happen, it was handled with the same grace Churchill handled India, except with their own supposedly equal population


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Orwell was a socialist, not a communist


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
My take about Churchill basically being as bad as Hitler is based and true tho, that was a recent big brain take


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The answer to that question lies in what natural resources or strategic value Belarus has


[14-Aug-20 02:34 AM] ononim#8141
also wtf 15 seconds? I demand a role to those who proved to be capable to argue in good faith that at least gives 5 seconds


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
@ononim Nebbie would crush you.


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/438412674326331432/570762806450978826


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
hue 
But yeah I do hope it will neither become second ukraine or just continue as usual


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] ononim#8141
@Opponent nebbie needs 1 min cooldown to not crush others with his walls

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[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Crow#5457
and yeah, orwell was never communist


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
I did notably start having more knowledge and started arguing with less shitposting and more good faith by the start of 2020 lol, maybe more recently, covid has chilled me out a bit.


[14-Aug-20 02:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I changed it to socialism, I was hoping somebody would say I was acting like the ministry of truth


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
he always criticized the authoritarian nature of the USSR


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
he participated in revolutionary catalonia


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stalinism was a mistake


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just like how fascism and Nazism aren't the same


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like they have no rare resources, so things will just carry on as usual


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia

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[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and his faith in socialism was shaken by what he saw in catalonia


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can be a communist and critical of historical socialist experiments


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
I still wanna know who was absolutely cringy and obsessive enough to go through my posts for nearly two years lmao, that's a whole new level of seethe


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Crow#5457
wtf


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so which one was the closest though?


[14-Aug-20 02:36 AM] ononim#8141
>stalin
>communist
Angry_Italian.jpg


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
prove that right now or you're muted


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
baiting is bad faith


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Not baiting


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
there's too much clutter who talks to who now


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
> so which one was the closest though?


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Crow#5457
you're throwing out random bullshit to try and bait people into responding


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
Incans


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I was asking which version of communism was the closest


[14-Aug-20 02:37 AM] ononim#8141
but yeah, he reamined socialist even after catalonia, what are you talking about? A lot of socialists hates USSR at the time like you know, Trotsky, Bordiga


[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
literally wondering what he thinks, not trying to bait


[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] ononim#8141
closest to what?


[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
to real communism


[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
The Incans.


[14-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
late 19th century commune experiments


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Weren't there "utopian" communities in the US that were borderline communist


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
actually a decent answer, but could that work in the modern world on a global scale?


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Communism does indeed work....just doesnt scale up well when it comes to countries.


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That eventually failed as the world had gone beyond them being sustainable


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
yeah. Like Oneida


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] ononim#8141
hue
But yeah, USSR, as agrarian country with little proletarian demographics was doomed in estableshing communism after German revolution failed and they were isolated


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine making a utopia but only getting known for silverware


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Oneida is a really good answer - I've been there so I saw it


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Communism works in small populations where the effects to society are self evident


[14-Aug-20 02:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but it was also super fucking culty


[14-Aug-20 02:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
A large issue with socialist experiments is they really haven't been done in first world countries which was what Marx was projecting they'd be


[14-Aug-20 02:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
Instead, they were largely feudal shit holes that didn't even have tractors for farms.


[14-Aug-20 02:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And that's the thing about communism - it works best when people actually know each other


[14-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You guys want to know what Marx said about the Jews? XD

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[14-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As soon as you don't really identify with other people in the system, you stop caring about them, people abuse it or get lazy, corruption and power differences, etc

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[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
That's bait and nothing to do with his works talisa


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
oh, I misunderstood what you were saying with the "so which one was closest though?" because you spat out "orwell's faith in communism was shaken" and "orwell's faith in socialism was shaken" in quick succession


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I looked into the guy and the stuff I found was pretty funny


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] ononim#8141
so the best case would been to preserver the party as international communism and perhaps protect the worker's victories in the former russian empire while trying to industrialize and proletarize it
Not to become a nationalistic nation state that used parties and international for it is own gain and not vice versa


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
oh sorry I wasn't referring to that


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm actually enjoying the discussion, I like hearing what people have to say


[14-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Crow#5457
and no, orwell was steadfast in his support of democratic socialism


[14-Aug-20 02:42 AM] Crow#5457
he was never shaken from that belief


[14-Aug-20 02:42 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Did you know the only reason Communists even had their Revolution was cuz the Capitalist West supported them and aided them? :ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Marx was jewish; he wanted "the jews" to stop being pigeonholed, by society and by themselves, as being little more than semi-ostracized financiers


[14-Aug-20 02:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, you have to actually read his thoughts on religion before making a judgement


[14-Aug-20 02:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
Outside of those contexts it probably reads as pretty awful, intent is important.


[14-Aug-20 02:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He never advocated for, say, outlawing or persecuting religions, and in fact openly mocked certain people for thinking that'd be useful


[14-Aug-20 02:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Marx failed in his beliefs
even the bolsheviks thought there would be global revolutions - it's why they released russian territories after getting out of the first world war


[14-Aug-20 02:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle: Communism is what happens when the Mentally Ill get political.

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[14-Aug-20 02:44 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ironically, one of the people he mocked for their views on the Jews was noted anarchist Proudhon


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"I hate Mondays"- Karl Marx


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but also, that's why marxism is inherently flawed - it doesn't account for people and their perception of the system


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's why a perfect system cannot exist


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He literally wrote a paper called the "Jewish Question"


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] ononim#8141
>Karl Marx sought virtue through suffering
Wtf are they talkingabout


[14-Aug-20 02:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It does


[14-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
secret catholic


[14-Aug-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx openly talked about consciousness, false consciousness and ideology


[14-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Phelan#7647
Marx was a neet


[14-Aug-20 02:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He noticed a pattern of revolutionary tendencies within the proletarian class but did not assume they were inevitably revolutionary


[14-Aug-20 02:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
hey guys, hows the support rate of trump now? can my favorite leader be reelected?

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[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Communism is just Nazism's Second Cousin.


[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You mean election odds?


[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
42% ish? Is not really a relevant stat unless it's like under 20%


[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
42% is also basically his re-election odds.


[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] ononim#8141
Wtf it is 4 am again


[14-Aug-20 02:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but who cares what he talked about? The people who openly listened to him were academia, aka the bourgeoise - it doesn't matter what he said if people took their perception from it. It's why lenin's view for a communist russia failed


[14-Aug-20 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Talisa Pierce neither ideology has anything to do with each other; nazism depends on the petit-bourgeoisie, bourgeoisie, and reactionary clergy to sustain itself


[14-Aug-20 02:48 AM] ononim#8141
I hate time zones

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[14-Aug-20 02:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx dealt with this in the manifesto, ironically, discussing "reactionary socialism"


[14-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wouldn't be a problem if we just accepted flat earth theory


[14-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Timezones would just vanish


[14-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No they are are what I call "The Oppression Ideologies"


[14-Aug-20 02:49 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok, liberal


[14-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Who did Marx say was keeping the workers down and oppressing them?


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The capitalist system, the bourgeoisie, and its wide array of tools


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Crow#5457
that's I think it's ironic you didn't even read through the entirety of the image you posted, it literally says:
> "In his final version of the materialist theory of history and the concept of capitalism, the Jew plays no part, nor does anit-Semitism. Marx's early work on the Jewish question has often been resurrected to try and prove just the opposite, namely that the communism of Marx is an anti-Semitic doctrine."


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The bourgeoisie


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the people who had the ideology (or those who claimed to follow his ideology) subjected onto them didn't read his manifesto


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Actually read Marx instead of other people's readings of Marx, the bourgeoisie are objectively oppressing the working class, this is material fact.


[14-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Who did Hitler say was keeping the German people down and oppressing them?


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The Judenfolk


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's a vastly simplistic and bad faith comparison


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
hitler blamed the communists


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Marx's ideology was based on materialism and dialectics, not feelings about races


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and he also said the jews were behind communism


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Its a Formula Disso


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
The first people Hitler attacked were communists


[14-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Crow#5457
marx started out criticizing the jewish, but later determined that it wasn't the jews who were at fault but the entire system


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
On the Jewish question was written when he was about 30


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but hitler didn't attack communists just because


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No the first people Hitler attacked was the Nazis, he went after his own


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and nazis merely believe replacing the supposed Jews in the ruling class with good white aryan men is sufficient


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
Historical revisionism is fun, you can just say whatever you want


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
big shocker, when politics get extreme the first to fight are the extremists


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pineapple pizza was the original pizza


[14-Aug-20 02:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The first people he actually started killing were the more moderate members of the Nazi party


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no it wasn't, they didn't have pineapples in ancient rome


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
So the brownshirts didn't exist?


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The first people Trump went after was the GOP; I mean... pretty normal thing when you're trying to be the firebrand that reaches the top of the power ladder


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is objectively provable considering the practices of the nazi party -- Hitler purged the "nazbol" elements of the party and cozied up with capitalists all over


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so is trump hitler then?


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No...


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
>pretty normal thing when you're trying to be the firebrand


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every politician does this


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That was more of the corporatism of Mussolini than the original socialism of like Strasser etc


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] ononim#8141
I can't believe pony tsp is trump


[14-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Suckups don't make it to power in their own organizations


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
My point is both Nazism and Communism lead to the same thing....nothing good...thats assured.


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
We're just using talisa big brain logic don't worry, we're trying to be ideologically consistent so Trump is literally Hitler


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nevertheless, it doesn't matter what fascists think about their ideology. What matters is what they historically did, do, and are prone to doing


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
exactly, but that's the problem with these kinds of politics - it's reductive


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
@Teaspoon All of Hitler's inner circle were massive suckups who never criticized him


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Nazis and communists are the same is just radical smooth brain centrism, read a book


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What fascists do and did is imperialism and crushing the organized working class


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Weren't a lot of those purged from the Nazi party communists?


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Fascism is too unstable as an ideology, more unstable then Communism


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Even when Goring wrote the "I'll take over the Reich if you don't reply" letter he was practically bowing


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, and they remained suckups until they died


[14-Aug-20 02:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah but I'm not a centrist


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is very reductive, for sure.


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
Aperture I promise I think you're much smarter than that


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but also, centrists kinda tend to survive

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[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is even the real argument here?


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I dont know


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Nazi purges were mostly for the people who took the "socialist" part seriously


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
That Nazism and Stalinism are the same thing?


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cause...they aren't.


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
And neither has much to do with Marxism.


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nobody is arguing that


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
but im going to go unbox my new "used" Bad Dragon Toy from ebay :ts_reallysad:

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[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
O boy


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
B R U H M O M E N T


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazism is a hodgepodge ideology Hitler threw together based on who could kiss ass the best.


[14-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Crow#5457
> My point is both Nazism and Communism lead to the same thing....nothing good...thats assured.


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Be sure to wash with plenty of detergent.


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
please don't use that used thing


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazism and stalinism are kinda similar with their thumping about nationalism and national development. Stalinism is actually technically distinct from marxian communism


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
@Crow oh yeah I just saw your link to that discussion. Yeah it's ridiculous to assume that.


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinism is Stalin's "hey you mean I can send all my detractors to camps?" idelogy.


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
Used silicone is fine just wash it good in the sink with detergent


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Haha go to gulag


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's icky in theory tho.


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Like I said, Communism and Nazism are relative ideologies


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but that's what extremism tends to lead to - people in camps


[14-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Opponent#3498
USSR has really good land in terms of food, at least European part of it. It required a horrific (perhaps malicious) amount of mismanagement to starve it even on a bad year.


[14-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Reminder that Stalin fucked the Soviet space program by keeping its smartest mind in gulags for a decade


[14-Aug-20 02:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Relative to what?


[14-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know what relative ideology even means.


[14-Aug-20 02:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it means nothing


[14-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think you know much about either ideology, @Talisa Pierce.


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
This whole thing seems like just a mess of throwing together basic common knowledge.


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
The holodomor only happened so bad because Stalin was cringy enough to believe lysenko, who was very cringe and a total hack and didn't know how agriculture and plants worked but assured everyone he was right and his detractors were wrong


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
Very cringe, you should look into lysenkism, it's fucking lolcow pseudo-science


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
HOMODOMOR


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, some starvation and peasant dissatisfaction was inevitable given how the USSR ruling clique wanted to industrialize the country very fast


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
The more you actually know about Stalin the more human cringe he really seems


[14-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Ok


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what I am going to say is that we shouldn't put leaders who lack empathy in charge, but at the same time they should not have empathy to a fault - after all there are some real psychos out there who lack empathy and prey on those who have it


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
that kind of describes their entire leadership though. Choosing the leadership positions based on ideological purity/brand loyalty, not any kind of actual brainpower


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But they could have handled the situation better without Stalin


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Lysenkism meant they didn't use fertiliser at all.


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
im going to get out of here....this is giving me some "Hitler did nothing wrong" vibes


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lol


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
...but they're talking about Stalin.


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
I was literally criticising Stalin


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you understand what they're saying was done wrong?


[14-Aug-20 02:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
Wrinkle that brain, think for once please


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Please please please actually try to read things instead of just responding to them


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think lenin would have ended up much like stalin if he had not died


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The Holodomor was a Genocide


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and yes, the holodomor was a genocide


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure that's correct by the definition.


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Up there with Chinas Cultural Revolution


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
It wasn't targeted by culture AFAIK and was exagerated.


[14-Aug-20 03:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, it did have genocidal characteristics and the characteristics of a large scale political purge


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
China did much the same stupid shit with killing off peasants by selling their rice.


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
The actual famine would've happened with or without any of these people, however Stalin himself was a big poo poo head and also didn't believe in putting poop on crops to fertilise them because lysenko said using fertiliser is bourgeoisie cringe


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I wholeheartedly agree with the notion that it was inhuman and unnecessary


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
wait what? who the fuck cares if it was a genocide or not?
We are all humans, and a lot of people died


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or the backyard furnaces


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think there would've been a famine anywhere near as large without Stalin in charge.


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
So naturally crop yields were even more terrible than weather otherwise permitted.


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
yyyyeah it being culturally targetted... Not entirely clear either way, but very much not outside of the realm of reason.


[14-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
We should not, nor ever promote these ideologies, neither Communism or Nazism


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
The weather was already awful and it was going to be a famine regardless.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
@aperture_tech people eager to yell GENOCIDE instead of actually decry the root problems.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
they are both inhuman disgusting ideologies


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Stalin wasn't a true communist though.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Note that another famine related to this was the one caused by Churchill.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In India


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
Unless you look at and believe big scary words like North Korea is a very democratic Republic


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it doesn't fucking matter if certain groups were targeted or not - and it is fucked up to mince words on if we are killing people of a certain group or just killing people


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Calling such a genocide is possibly correct, but hardly anybody wants to bring it up like that.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
the modern Ukrainian discource dictates that it absolutely was. But then it dictates that ukrainian soldiers who fought in SS divisions be aknowledged as vets on par with soviet soldiers.


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nominally "communist" states have done yikes-y thigs many times in history, but any thorough analysis on how these regimes formed and how they operated is sufficient to disprove the notion that they were communistic in practice


[14-Aug-20 03:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not cool with either the holodomor or the holocaust


[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie our current leadership does. Big cringe tbh.


[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
or the cultural revolution or whatever else


[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
Ukraine's nazi bootlicking culture is very epic


[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
The argument between Nazis and Commies always comes down to "My idea killed less people" Your ideologies shouldn't be killing people to begin with. Thats not even an argument.

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[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
As Marx put it, "communism is not a state of affairs which is to be established and to which reality will have to adjust itself", but the real movement to abolish the present state of things


[14-Aug-20 03:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Marxism doesn't kill people tho


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
In short, it seems like a lot of people outside the US in the mid 20th century wanted to starve a region they had control over that was poor and not politically in charge.


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why exactly is something important to understand.


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
Capitalism by definition kills people from preventable causes. Nazism by definition kills people deliberately.


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but people trying to follow marxist ideology did kill people


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
With Stalinism I think it was Russia's whole deal about controlling the world.


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
So critize those people and their spin on it.


[14-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
But China...doesn't make any sense with them.


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Saying _communism_ killed X amount of people is like saying capitalism killed X amount of people because whatever country that did some massacre was capitalist


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism is not the USSR or any other state that has claimed to be practicing communism within its borders (which is impossible so long as borders and money exist).


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stalinism, maoism, etc. yes


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no ideology is free of blood
and yes, you should target the perpetrators of these crimes against humanity


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churchill was definitely not communist when he starved millions in India.


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That one may hav been out of spite of Gandhi.


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
There are hundreds of different leftist ideologies one could call communist and I assure you most of them hate and disagree with eachother on many many things.


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Churchill was very keen on finding out whether Gandhi in particular died.


[14-Aug-20 03:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
All variants of fascism necessitate some form of genocide.


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rather, *communism* is the mass proletarian movement in general


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but the truth is, no ideology is free of sin - if it hasn't been tried yet that's because the perfect version doesn't exist


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
It's really reductive to use "communism" as one big blob for "things I don't like" or "naughty bad leftists who got people killed"


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately it speaks to not having far-off rulers.


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
No, Communism is just the Religion of the Mentally Ill if you ask me.


[14-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Same with Nazism


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Empires devolve into a ruling class that fukks over people on the fringes in a self-destructive manner.


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Workers in one sector striking in solidarity with downtrodden black folk in defense of police reform? That is technically communism, as a part of the movement


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
By definition its a modernist ideology that relies on materialism, reality real things, so it can't really be a religion


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't think genocide is an inherent trait of fascism, just a biproduct that comes with the circumstances that create fascism


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
I would like to note in regards to Stalinism in particular


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
it definitely wasn't a religion.


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm pretty sure the fascism rule book says you need to purge minorities, you cannot reform skin colour out of people so easily.


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
do you think that workers striking will create communism peacefully? That won't happen. There will always be blood


[14-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
It cared way too little about the cultural norms.


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fascism, at it's core, means running a country like an army.

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[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was deadset on the political stuff.


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's what created the USSR


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nazism was a lot more like a religion.


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
You can take the bourgeoisie private property and then they're not bourgie anymore


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@aperture_tech i never said it'd be peaceful


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
You can't unjew a jew in the framework of fascism.


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's perhaps why less attach to Stalinism now.


[14-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has no "catch".


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Not without killing them anyway.


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Striking workers face repression and violence all the time


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Communisms and Nazism both Worship the State


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fascism isn't necessarily national socialism.


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trying to apply it to anything new wouldn't work.


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
What is libertarian leftism?


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so why wasn't USSR the revolution? I've never heard a fascist claim that nazism wasn't real fascism


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
Communism is a stateless, classless society.


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
the only time I ever see someone bring up the "communism has killed x people" junk is when they're defending capitalism


[14-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce again I think you're saying things you don't understand.


[14-Aug-20 03:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> so why wasn't USSR the revolution? I've never heard a fascist claim that nazism wasn't real fascism
@aperture_tech  the USSR did go through a communist-*intended* revolution headed by the proletariat, but it never achieved the conditions necessary for capitalism to whither


[14-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalin had a cult of personality, sure.


[14-Aug-20 03:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what conditions are those?


[14-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Then enlighten me Nebbie


[14-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
I've never once seen a "commie" actually try to say "my ideology killed less people" to say "communism" is better than nazism


[14-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Crow#5457
that's just a completely ridiculous notion


[14-Aug-20 03:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> what conditions are those?
@aperture_tech  a sufficiently sizeable proletariat, sufficient ammounts of industry and productive forces, capitalism beforehand


[14-Aug-20 03:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I've seen a lot of self professed communists say that the USSR, China, Cuba, and many others are not real communism


[14-Aug-20 03:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
Communists irl:
Workers rights pls.....
Healthcare pls....
Good public transport pls......

Anticommunists: reeeee you wanna killl 100 million people me included noooo


[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
because none of those were communist, they were socialist at most


[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No communism can spring up if there's no capitalism before it to produce the necessary conditions


[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
At least I know what fascists want, and they say they want. Communism tends to the same results but it turns out it's kinda like fascism


[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
Feudalism to communism pipeline broke


[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Poland is my Spirit Animal

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[14-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Crow#5457
and the USSR was barely socialist under stalin, stalinism was more similar to fascism than socialism


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
So fascists who hate the trans and gays but disavow the swastika?


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Casual reminder to read Amadeo Bordiga's writings on this subject, they are very insightful


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
then please tell me about a successful country under communism?


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
Staning Poland biggest lolcow move


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Crow#5457
revolutionary catalonia is the closest we've had


[14-Aug-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> then please tell me about a successful country under communism?
@aperture_tech  no such thing as a "communist country"


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean the USSR was successful by capitalist definitions mind you lol, as is China


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
there's a reason for that


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

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[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
The failure and success states are very different and much harder for we ebil gommies.


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Society cannot work as classless or stateless


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
National Socialism as it was in Germany isn't really an ideology that can be applied to a modern day nation, imo.
The National Socialist Workers Party had a bunch of ideologues floating around, involving elements of fascism, socialism, and ethnonationalism that just happened to suit the needs of the party in Germany at the time.
Most "neo-nazis" aren't really national socialists.


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not sure how reliable this is https://theyorkhistorian.com/2015/09/18/stalins-cult-of-personality-its-origins-and-progression/

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Stalin established a cult of personality that ensured a secure foundation for his autocratic regime, but how did he do it? AUTHOR: JULIA KENNY
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[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism is a world-system -- you either replace it completely or it corrupts your supposedly revolutionary state


[14-Aug-20 03:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
Can't say that until we actually get to a point where we can test it.


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You dont want that Disso


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
And the national socialist party immediately purged all of the "socialist" part sooo


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well then it's a pipe dream and not really something you can force


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
because it kinda seems like people are in the way.


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
It was just the national party really lol


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Instead if trying to sell communism,it should be better to try to sell the transitional stage, because that's what most people would experience in the century before communism actually happens.

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[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not forceable by a small clique of revolutionaries, indeed


[14-Aug-20 03:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
The Nats


[14-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Those who wish for a Communist Revolution dont know, they will be the first against the Wall after their Revolution Succeeds.


[14-Aug-20 03:16 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
the final goal of communism is to destroy the idea of "country", so there's no such a thing as "communism country"


[14-Aug-20 03:16 AM] >That Guy#3386
Ah, the Strasserites.
Fuck them though


[14-Aug-20 03:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We won't likely even still be alive once it succeeds lol


[14-Aug-20 03:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But that's why communism isn't scaleable, unless you have some way to force everyone to be like you


[14-Aug-20 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
Hmm yes 20th century social standards apply to the 21st century so all actual communists in revolutions will purge degenerate trans people and gays yes we know how culture works we are very smart


[14-Aug-20 03:17 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@aperture_tech communist ideology doesn't come through force, but through class consciousness


[14-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Phelan#7647
Strasserists are weird.


[14-Aug-20 03:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's why it won't succeed - if corporations had a way to make people think what they want we'd all be talking about our great experience at walmart


[14-Aug-20 03:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
All real revolutionary communists stepped into cyro sleep in 1932,we have not seen nor heard from them since but know they were very homophobic


[14-Aug-20 03:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
Eventually they will wake and real communism will happen except for the gays they'll be lined up against a wall and shot for bourgeoisie degeneracy


[14-Aug-20 03:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marx's writings on Blanqui and his followers back in victorian France matter


[14-Aug-20 03:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and here's the thing: class consciousness exists, people aren't unaware of where they stand in society. Some will be upset, but others will not


[14-Aug-20 03:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That's called false consciousness


[14-Aug-20 03:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
when it comes to a boiling point, they will revolt, but the end result will not be communism, it will be a different system because a stateless and classless society not something achievable on a large scale


[14-Aug-20 03:20 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People can be aware there's something wrong in society but can also create all sorts of nonsense scenarios to excuse their thinking


[14-Aug-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazi ideology is not class conscious


[14-Aug-20 03:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's not creating
it's seeing what happened in the past and drawing conclusions


[14-Aug-20 03:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's the least of the issues with nazism


[14-Aug-20 03:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, conclusions without a materialist worldview


[14-Aug-20 03:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
materialism is innate to humanity


[14-Aug-20 03:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym?


[14-Aug-20 03:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I mean look at it: even if all possessions were stripped forcibly from us we'd still argue about whether our opinions are right or wrong


[14-Aug-20 03:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
because those opinions are yours or mine or whoevers


[14-Aug-20 03:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
to remove materialism is removing part of humanity


[14-Aug-20 03:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Opinions on what?


[14-Aug-20 03:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
on anything, be it politics or what the cloud looks like


[14-Aug-20 03:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, humans are unique individually


[14-Aug-20 03:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so humanity will be always materialistic


[14-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
i think hes trying to make the case that Humans are naturally greedy and want things


[14-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
and these ideologies like Communism dont understand the basics of what it means to be human


[14-Aug-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But political conflicts within communism wouldn't likely be any comparable to what we see today in capitalism -- there'd be no material incentive for massive change because it'd already have happened


[14-Aug-20 03:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No elites to remove because of direct democracy


[14-Aug-20 03:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but it's not just about politics - humanity trends towards wanting more for oneself or one's closest


[14-Aug-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No elites purposefully funding ideological indoctrination schemes to divide the lower classes either


[14-Aug-20 03:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
we learn Marx's theories on our high school textbook, but i mainly learned the philosophy part because im a science student


[14-Aug-20 03:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No classes at all in communism, too


[14-Aug-20 03:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
elites are no more than you or me - they are people too
It's why we divide ourselves into groups


[14-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You can find better Philosophy on the back of a Cereal box


[14-Aug-20 03:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
be it class or race or whatever else. Communism is a pipe dream because most of the time it will end up much like the USSR.


[14-Aug-20 03:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They are biologically people, surely, but their unfair ownership of the means of production makes them and us different so long as capitalism exists


[14-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce Do you even know what Marxism says?


[14-Aug-20 03:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
how is that unfair? Also, holy shit that's kinda messed up


[14-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really feels like you are just tossing out whatever you think to bait people.


[14-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than actually trying to discuss politics.


[14-Aug-20 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Part of the reason why i frown at using terror and executions as a revolutionary tactic -- just strip the billionaires and capitalists of their special status, integrate them into the new society, and watch them fade to irrelevance


[14-Aug-20 03:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The jews are biologically people but...
that's the problem - I refuse to brand someone as somebody who is lesser because of who they are


[14-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
What do you mean, bait people? The only people id be baiting are communists....there are no communists here, cuz you guys dont seem insane enough to believe that crap.


[14-Aug-20 03:30 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I think this is the most harsh punishment we could give them -- having them live in a world where they've become irrelevant


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
In case you hav not noticed, there are people in here who think Marx had good ideas.


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are saying those ideas are trash, without any real substance to your argument.


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
It appears to me to be obvious baiting.


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but why would they need to be punished? A lot of the so called elites were simply born in that position


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, that's kind of my point


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
One of marx's philosophic idea is "self gainsaying", as he said, its not socialism or communism gainsay capitalism, but capitalism gainsay itself


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
to them, it would seem like they are being punished for living as they are


[14-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you've got something to say about an ideology or idea's, well, contents, please, debate on such.


[14-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
But don't be saying something is trash in the middle of conversations.


[14-Aug-20 03:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
so if one day capitalism failed, its not the fault of communists, but the fault of capitalists


[14-Aug-20 03:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and I kind of see that like punishing people for their race or gender or ideology - people should not be punished for things outside of their control


[14-Aug-20 03:32 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I see a lot of people popularize the thought of using guillotines on the rich and powerful, but... there wouldn't be much of a need for doing such unless the rich and powerful prove likely to plot against the revolution


[14-Aug-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're mistaken about that, though -- capitalists can choose to become poor or working class


[14-Aug-20 03:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but that's also fucked - if they aren't entirely onboard they get the rope?


[14-Aug-20 03:33 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their wealth is not something biologically or personally inherent to them


[14-Aug-20 03:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> but that's also fucked - if they aren't entirely onboard they get the rope?
@aperture_tech  yes -- dictatorship of the proletariat, after all


[14-Aug-20 03:34 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Marx was a rich fuck who was mentally ill and with his rich friend made a shitty book, and spread their nonsensical religion. Anyone offering you a Utopian Salvation is something people should generally avoid.


[14-Aug-20 03:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
A lot of the time, it is biological. Some people are born into money, and they can't understand less


[14-Aug-20 03:35 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then force them to live among the people they've repressed for the long period before


[14-Aug-20 03:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but at the end of the day, getting rid of the "elites" or the jews, or whatever bad group isn't the path to happiness


[14-Aug-20 03:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
all you would discover is that they were just as happy as you


[14-Aug-20 03:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marxism is not a religion, @Talisa Pierce, by definition.


[14-Aug-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> all you would discover is that they were just as happy as you
@aperture_tech wdym?


[14-Aug-20 03:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they are equally unhappy


[14-Aug-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmao what


[14-Aug-20 03:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
wealth isn't a measure of happiness


[14-Aug-20 03:37 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is a measure of being able to deal with your mental issues and material shortcomings though


[14-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Can you prove to me that its not like a religion?


[14-Aug-20 03:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
there isn't enough money in the world to fix that


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl you're sounding like a self-help author rn


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
Marxism does not contain this.


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
for even a single person. maybe lobotomy could do that, but that would also destroy the ability for agency


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Crow#5457
uh, marx wasn't rich, but he did have rich buddies who thought his work was important and paid him for it


[14-Aug-20 03:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
we china is obviously not a standard socialism country that marx expect. in his theories, a country must accumulate enough wealth to become socialism, which need several centeries of capitalism. but china has only 30 years of capitalism


[14-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Nebbie...you know theres such a thing as a "Non-thiestic" religion right?


[14-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You dont need a God to have a religion


[14-Aug-20 03:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the truth is, happiness is based on dopamine and if humanity was able to get constant happiness from the same amount of dopamine we would not be around today


[14-Aug-20 03:39 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Marxism is inherently materialistic and does not ascribe societal or natural phenomena to the realm of spirits or gods or spiritual forces


[14-Aug-20 03:40 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Neither does it have a dedicated body of enlightened priests to uphold it


[14-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
At that point it becomes something else.


[14-Aug-20 03:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd rather not interfere with other's searches for happiness and search for it myself


[14-Aug-20 03:41 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
For example in China, people would read Maos "Little Red Book" as if it was a Bible. Even people who lived through that to write books about it, described this Marxist/Maoist ideology like a Religion.


[14-Aug-20 03:41 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
wtf


[14-Aug-20 03:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There can be offshoots of marxist ideology which operate somewhat religiously, but maoism is so different from Marx's thoughts that it might as well not be classified as marxist at all


[14-Aug-20 03:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but those are marx's thoughts


[14-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
China's thing definitely operates with an element of worship.


[14-Aug-20 03:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is not however what Marx said to do.


[14-Aug-20 03:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
he's gone now, and maybe we should think for ourselves


[14-Aug-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Mao advocated for class collaborationism, upholding the peasantry as the head of the revolution, and nationalism, none of which were ever defended by Marx


[14-Aug-20 03:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
If marx's system was perfect, we'd be all living under it at this moment

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[14-Aug-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
marx's system is not perfect


[14-Aug-20 03:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
conflict always exist


[14-Aug-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
@AlchemistLiang Have you recited the 5 prayers to Mao today?


[14-Aug-20 03:44 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
uh...what is this?


[14-Aug-20 03:44 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A joke


[14-Aug-20 03:44 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I believe they banned The Little Red Book in China for that reason


[14-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
cuz it resembled a more religious like thing


[14-Aug-20 03:45 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fun fact: maoists today often hate the current Chinese regime for its perceived betrayal of Mao's revolution


[14-Aug-20 03:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
right now china is putting Uyghurs into reeducation camps to teach them to love the system


[14-Aug-20 03:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's the end goal of these zealous societies - to force all who might disagree into agreeing


[14-Aug-20 03:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
idk how so many people think communism society is a flawless perfect society. marx already said a society without conflict is impossible to exist


[14-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
That is true, there is a party in China that makes Xi Xing Ping look like a Liberal


[14-Aug-20 03:46 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
China is capitalist after all, there's nothing holding back its intents on colonizing its sparsely populated western territories


[14-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
North Korea in my opinion is the best case as to why Capitalism is the best system.


[14-Aug-20 03:48 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
believe it or not


[14-Aug-20 03:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The issue with china isn't the capitalism


[14-Aug-20 03:49 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's the state capitalism, because the state is rotten to the fucking core


[14-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
North Korea has become more and more Capitalistic under Kim


[14-Aug-20 03:49 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
fucking north korea already banned marx's book


[14-Aug-20 03:49 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the problem kinda tends to be authoritarian moreso than economic from my view


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Using North Korea to prove anything is an improper generalization fallacy.


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
For me, it seems that Communism always inevitably falls to Captitalism


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a single instance and an extreme one at that.


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Authoritarianism towards minorities stems from China's economic system


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
a single instance?


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what Talisa was saying, yes.


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
North Korea specifically.


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
China is kind of the exact same, just bigger


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not looking at multiple countries.


[14-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
North Korea has become more and more Capitalistic, you can go and buy a fucking dryer and washer combo there.


[14-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
its actually improved thanks to Capitalism


[14-Aug-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because China's capitalist class wants to exploit the western territories' resources and the local minorities don't agree with that, they influence the CCP, their front organ, to abuse and repress these minorities into submission


[14-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
you can buy things under communism


[14-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
not in North Korea


[14-Aug-20 03:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you can't buy it's a system that respects human rights


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
for decades it was as far Communist as you could get, they are now on the way to becoming a more Capitalist Nation, and I think its great


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that you cannot buy, but you wouldn't need to -- everything would be freely distributed


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
North Korea still gets an F on the human rights scale.


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
of course


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, with a system of rationing and consumption control if necessary


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you know what people get from me when my work is freely distributed? minimal effort


[14-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
But it proves to me, inevitably, every Communist Nation becomes Capitalist


[14-Aug-20 03:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@aperture_tech tell that to wikipedia


[14-Aug-20 03:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
give me liberty or give me death - I don't think communism can work without direct physical or chemical alteration of the mind


[14-Aug-20 03:54 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not that you'd need to work as much under communism given how machines and technology would make such things much easier


[14-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What I'd ultimately like is a system where our basic needs are met, but people are incentivized to work to earn more on *top* of that to buy luxuries.

So we'd have UBI and free healthcare. Nobody would be out on the street or at risk of dying for being out of work or having a low-paying job. *But* those who aspire for greatness, who want *more* than just to survive, can still work and earn more money and buy fancy cars and TVs and Nintendos and what have you.

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[14-Aug-20 03:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and what of wikipedia? the site where people contribute where they feel like it? I am a proponent of free software but I do not believe for a second that free software is how you run humanity


[14-Aug-20 03:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People would also prioritize societal well-being over their own -- this is possible considering self-sacrifice and solidarity


[14-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Risky" careers like the arts would be less risky as well. People would be bolder about trying less sure-fire jobs.

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[14-Aug-20 03:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
would they do that on their own?


[14-Aug-20 03:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes


[14-Aug-20 03:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Self sacrifice is called "self for a reason". It would be meaningless if people didn't make that for themselves


[14-Aug-20 03:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what if they didn't choose to do that? what if they decided to be selfish?


[14-Aug-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They'd be punished


[14-Aug-20 03:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
then that kinda removes the self


[14-Aug-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But such people wouldn't be likely much common under communism


[14-Aug-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unless they have a mental disorder or something


[14-Aug-20 03:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
why wouldn't they be?


[14-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is why I'm not for full-on abolishment of capital.

I'm all for incentivizing labor with the promise of incrimentally better rewards for harder/more skilled work, but I don't like the idea of working to survive, especially in an economy where there just aren't adequately-paying enough jobs to go around. As a baseline, we ought to have shelter, food, and medicine. Anything better than that can be up to how much work we put in.

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[14-Aug-20 04:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because we would have actual, achievable means through which we could treat the supposed mental illness that would cause people like these to be so selfish and misconsiderate with resources


[14-Aug-20 04:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I do think we should look to maslow's pyramid to try and supply people


[14-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You know whats funny? Back in 2012 they send 30 of these Marxist and Communists to work on a Farm in Up State New York, they dint even make it 2 weeks before they all quit.


[14-Aug-20 04:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe some people just wouldn't care?


[14-Aug-20 04:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
should they be punished for just living?


[14-Aug-20 04:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No?


[14-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
These people dont know what it takes to actually survive, cuz they have it so fucking good.


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
> should they be punished for just living?
of course, the punishment is called "tax"


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well they wouldn't be willing to self sacrifice


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who sent 30 Marxists/Communists to a farm, where?


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and also, yes, taxation is theft


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sounds like nonsense, source please.


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In America, most people are a single illness, injury, or missed paycheck from going broke. 

I may not be advocating for full communism but the system we have now isn't working either.


[14-Aug-20 04:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They wouldn't be just living, we're assuming here a case of an individual engaging in overconsumption which would supposedly put a communist society's material resources under strain


[14-Aug-20 04:03 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I find that difficult to believe as a serious concern


[14-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
>I may not be advocating for full communism


[14-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:  So you guys are Communists.


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so how would overconsumption be punished?


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I... just said that I wasn't but okay, Talisa, paragon of good faith.


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
communism society wont exist in this centery, wtf are you worrying about


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Theres no such thing as "Good Communism"


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
By restricting the bastard into consuming as much as all other people around him


[14-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You're arguing with straw, not with me.


[14-Aug-20 04:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that strips them of their autonomy


[14-Aug-20 04:05 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Their autonomy to what?


[14-Aug-20 04:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
their ability to be themselves?


[14-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Dint MLP warn about Communism?


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
MLP never touched the subject.


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
:ultralulle:


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Our town


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, if being youself means pissing off other people, then... idk fam but that's not cool


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
in OUR TOWN IN OUR TOWN


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Starlight Glimmer wasn't a communist. She was a "make everyone be the same"-ist, which isn't a real-world political philosophy.


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah but that's still their choice


[14-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
We dare not compete


[14-Aug-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I can't think of any excuse a supposed person in a communist society would use to, say, order five hundred pizzas in a single night other than for the shits and giggles


[14-Aug-20 04:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Capitalism is more wasteful anyway, so... :shrugpony:


[14-Aug-20 04:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah but if you strip that option from then it's kinda stripping somebody of their freedom


[14-Aug-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
```You can't unjew a jew in the framework of fascism.```
iirc Mussolini believed they could be. The jew was a cultural thing, a mode of living that could indeed be changed. Hitler saw them as an existential threat though.


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[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they still both sucked and stripped people of their freedom


[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Capitalism can work okay if it's highly regulated and there are good social programs to prevent people from being overrun by it, as seen in countries like Norway and Denmark.


[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
You cant have a nightmare, if you never dream


[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce I'm gonna be blunt in saying that Our Town only very vaguely resembles communist ideas, and has nothing to do with things like UBI.


[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It really seems like you don't understand what's being discussed, so you put forward things you do know about and hope people don't notice that you don't seem to hav a coherent argument.


[14-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Nebbie....Daniel Ingram himself stated he used Soviet Propaganda songs as inspiration for this song


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Evan555alpha#3735
"vaguely"


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But that doesn't mean it's communism.


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm gonna be blunt and say you might have missed out on some of what has been said


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Opponent#3498
cutie marks are also a lot more than just an abstact 'what makes someone special'... But bah, who cares about context anyway.


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Starlight very clearly has a cult of personality going on.


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which does resemble Stalin's whole deal.


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
after all, they are all equal, but they had been stripped of autonomy


[14-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
But cults of personality =/= communism.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Are you really going to defend Communism, even when MLP makes fun of it?

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[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a loaded question, and doesn't make any sense.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you cannot have communism unless everybody is on perfectly equal footing


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's not what that means.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stalin said he was communist, who are you to question him Nebbie


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As we all know, the labels people apply to themselves make them true


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
FiM had a villain operating a cult of personality and everyone being equal.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Marches[45]#0674
This motherfucker. Next he’ll say Nazis are leftist.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Communism is workers owning the means of production, it's not necessarily everyone doing or earning the same thing.


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Stalin tried to force equality through murder


[14-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
It did not say anything about communism.


[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's why North Korea is a democratic republic


[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
A starfish is a fish, got it


[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It certainly doesn't mean "the state owns and runs everything."


[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
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[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
guess he was just punishing people for taking more than what was allotted


[14-Aug-20 04:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
if there is no state who decides who deserves what?


[14-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Our Town is no more an accurate depiction of communism than Wario Land is of capitalism


[14-Aug-20 04:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And an unicorn is a bale of corn studying in college


[14-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
He breaks it down rather well


[14-Aug-20 04:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and it's fine for you to think that, even if you are wrong, because otherwise I would be stripping you of your ability to do that


[14-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
what makes it communist is that the people in the town connot make anything the state doesnt approve of. The means of Production belong to Starlight

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[14-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
She can only make what the state tells her to make


[14-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Talisa Pierce the video creator themselves says that it's kind of ambiguous and an equally-good argument could be made for fascism.


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's capitalist


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Its not Fascism


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"We have to make everyone exactly the same" - Karl Marx probably


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
But he says that there's a good argument for fascism.


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
there is no Capitalism involved


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Communism is absolute monarchy"
-Karl Marx?


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Starlight owns the land and workers


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's the thing - ideologies that strip people of their agency are kinda fucking shit


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
```At least I know what fascists want, and they say they want. Communism tends to the same results but it turns out it's kinda like fascism```
what fascism wanted was a strong homogenous nation and bombing arabs for free morale points. Kind of reminds me of a certain modern country tbh :D What they got was getting dragged into Hitler's crusade without any means to wage a modern war and getting roflstomped. For fascism, look at Italy, don't look at nazis. @aperture_tech


[14-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Dictators Free themselves, but they Enslave the People


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Marches[45]#0674
When are you gonna say something coherent?


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And i agree -- capitalism really sucks with its price tags :TRN:


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Starlight is an absolute dictator.


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If Starlight is a dictator then the Town isn't communist


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
There isn't really an economic system to speak of, but individual people are given, for some reason, businesses to run.


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Stalin...was a Dictator


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it's a feudalist territory :ponkthonk:


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Feudalism is perhaps the best fit.


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Mao, was a Dictator


[14-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It may resemble other systems that falsely claimed to be communist


[14-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Stalinist Feudalism etc.


[14-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Mao wasn't a communist, he, like others, used it to dupe people


[14-Aug-20 04:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, and I look at italy. Collectivism that strips people of their agency is the issue


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Our Town doesn't really say anything about economic systems.


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire town is whatever Starlight wants.


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Social democratic capitalism a la Norway is the only capitalism I'd be decently okay with; People aren't a single injury away from bankruptcy there. American "everyone for themselves" capitalism is really what I take issue with.


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Nebbie, its in the song

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[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism wouldn't strip people of their agency, it would offer them ample time to pursue artistic and cultural endeavours


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But to get there what would you need to do?


[14-Aug-20 04:18 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Unlike the capitalism of today which forces people to work two jobs at once to pay for their rent and taxes


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"communism" has been used by those in power the same way "heaven" or "eternal salvation" has been


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The song is propaganda saying everyone's equal because they all hav nothing.


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 No it would lead to you being sent to a Gulag cuz your neighbor dint like your dog barking so late at night.


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which isn't even actually true in practice, Starlight has more.


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's an unobtainable panacea used to hook people in


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It does resemble Stalinism in that way.


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
Our Town was not a jab at communism, maybe at memes about Animal Farm where they say everyone is equal


[14-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's not really about economic systems.


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not arguing capitalism is a system where shit is perfect - it isn't. just look at china. My problem is the authoritarianism


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I also think going the socdem route is more realistic for America. Even if you *want* full socialism eventually, you're not gonna go from our minimally-regulated capitalism to that overnight.


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
If ingram himself stated he used WW2 Soviet Propaganda Music for the song, doesnt that give you a hint?


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
communism cannot respect agency without forcing them to be a collective


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] byte[]#2610
...but it's a polka


[14-Aug-20 04:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's why I say it is not scalable


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
it's 2/4 @ 79bpm, polkas aren't russian last time I checked


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think Ingram wanted to talk about communism.


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
He just wanted a villain who had a small society she controlled.


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Play the Wart hog theme from RVB for the song


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
So he looked to propaganda cult stuff.


[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] byte[]#2610
I've emphasized the polka beat here

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[14-Aug-20 04:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> communism cannot respect agency without forcing them to be a collective
@aperture_tech  forcing people into productive collectives is a feature of a necessity for production. Production needs would decrease under communism after a revolution and thus the time people could use for expressing themselves individually would increase


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Nebbie would you be kind enough to denounce the horrors and atrocities committed by Communism?


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you look to the Nazis for uniforms of bad guys, it doesn't make those bad guys fascists.


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Please


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
what happens after you force them to do that shit? what if they kinda want to not participate in that collective


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Why are you purity testing me here, and what do you even define as communism?


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They can run off to the woods for all i care


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
We talked quite a bit earlier about how Stalinism and Maoism did shitty things.


[14-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I also think that even if Starlight was intended to be communist, it's kind of a crap portrayal so it wouldn't even really be a  strong point.

MLP also depicts absolute monarchy in a positive light, and I doubt most of us are in favor of that.


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and then it's just you


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do you think they qualify or not?


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah sure lmao


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Communism of ANY kind, would you please do humanity a favor and denounce it for its Evil.


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It kind of seems like communism is incompatible with the human mindset


[14-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Again, why are you fukking purity-testing me?


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
nah

Marxism itself isn't evil. I'll denounce Stalinism, Maoism, and modern-day tankies and nazbols but I don't think Marxism itself is inherently a bad thing.


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
I denounce Communism, see its that simple


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know what you are talking about.


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The human mindset is communism

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[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you talking about Marx's ideal, Maoism, what?


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is your entire life revolving around a nebulous "COMMUNISM" to hate?


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but everything you've said kind of seems like it goes against the human mindset, free thought


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Talisa Pierce#5489
Anything Left of Center that leads towards Authoritarianism. Denounce it.

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[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
...wat


[14-Aug-20 04:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Society would not exist without production, solidarity and self-sacrifice


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are you literally saying to denounce leftism or I'm a bad person?


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's it.


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
pfft, what


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Muted.


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yes, but self sacrifice requires the self


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do not ever unmute.


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Which would exist under communism


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
where is the room for the self?


[14-Aug-20 04:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
after what you have said I can't see it


[14-Aug-20 04:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why not?


[14-Aug-20 04:26 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're being obtuse, my man


[14-Aug-20 04:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
because you are describing a campaign where people who disagree are punished


[14-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Hasn’t much authoritarianism historically been of the right rather than the left?


[14-Aug-20 04:27 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the revolution, yes


[14-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, authoritarianism regardless of spectrum is bad


[14-Aug-20 04:28 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But disagreeing with other people and arguing for their murder is not a personality trait


[14-Aug-20 04:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no shit


[14-Aug-20 04:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so isn't punishing people because they aren't fully onboard with you


[14-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Because I suspect Talisa wouldn’t push that kind of purity test on a Pinochet fanatic.


[14-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Denouncing communism for it, when its intent is the opposite of it, is weird


[14-Aug-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's not a personality trait, indeed, but communism would not supress people's sense of self-identity and their individual outlook within society


[14-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But everyone confuses systems that used "communism" as a "starting point" and as propaganda for being actual communism


[14-Aug-20 04:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't care about the political spectrum either way - for me I kinda want people to think what they want, because I want to think what I want, not force others to think like me


[14-Aug-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
the two-axis political compass is kind of dumb because a significant amount of people line up along the diagonal, and the extremes on the axes are fairly contrived


[14-Aug-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
IOW, opinions on economic and social issues are correlated


[14-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
I again bring up 538's data.


[14-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
They showed a political compass that labeled the axes as market-favoring and immigrant-favoring.


[14-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
What their data showed was if you favor markets, you don't favor immigrants.


[14-Aug-20 04:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
of course they are correlated, but I maintain, the bigger issue is authoritarianism

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[14-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be anti-immigrant and anti-market (Stalinist etc.)


[14-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
but you can't really be pro-immigrant and pro-market.


[14-Aug-20 04:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
China is a capitalist place, and they shit they do is authoritarian


[14-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Very, yes.


[14-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can be pro-immigrant and anti-market as well (socialism)


[14-Aug-20 04:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and yes you can be whatever combination you choose is okay? You know why? they are still people and they can make decisions on their own


[14-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're missing the point.


[14-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something about being pro-market makes people not be pro-immigrant.


[14-Aug-20 04:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
culturally, we kind of head for trends. statistics aren't everything


[14-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a nonsensical rejection of the data.


[14-Aug-20 04:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
people are not a monolith, they are individuals


[14-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is going on that leads to the trends.


[14-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Another issue, there's not really a viable party for each of those four combinations.

So someone who's *personally* socially liberal but fiscally conservative may indeed vote for an anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-whatever Republican because they perceive them to be better for the economy.


[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
So I guess I could say something is going on with black people based on crime statistics?
I don't think that's right at all, because there is nuance


[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's easy to fudge numbers, it's another thing to actually see who people are in person


[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something is going on there.


[14-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Postal Workers will decide the election :^)


[14-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The anti-immigrant half is super spread.


[14-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The pro-immigrant half is super clustered on one of its sides.


[14-Aug-20 04:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
there is a place for stats and a place for understanding people are kind of hard to actually place


[14-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Nebbie#8545
The question to answer is "why?"


[14-Aug-20 04:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you would need a lot more variables to account for why


[14-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, you could bring those crime stats up. But you'd see black crime rates (and indeed, *all* violent crime rates) have been steadily dropping since they peaked in the 90s. Despite the 24 hour news cycle making us all acutely aware of crime constantly, we're actually much safer than we were in our childhoods. Crime just ain't what it used to be.


[14-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
This branches into two basic subquestions:


[14-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
1. Does liking immigrants make people egalitarian?
2. Does liking markets make people hate immigrants?


[14-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 1st would be the "starving kids in Africa" idea.


[14-Aug-20 04:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you can look at stats all you want


[14-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think either of those things are necessarily so, but there's probably a correlation.


[14-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea that if we start to ignore borders to separate us, maybe that leads to hating the market system for the inequality it has caused.


[14-Aug-20 04:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but it won't necessarily give you answers for people. People are not a monolith.


[14-Aug-20 04:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so you are asking what have borders given us?


[14-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It can still be useful to understand general consensus though. Obviously there are going to be differences.


[14-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
No.


[14-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
The question is whether losing the idea of borders causes us to reject capitalism.


[14-Aug-20 04:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's not about capitalism or market systems, because it seems there are a lot of places in this world where they have that, and different ways it works


[14-Aug-20 04:44 AM] byte[]#2610
more rejection of the data


[14-Aug-20 04:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the issue is authoritarianism


[14-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm musing on a weird statistical pattern found by people who weren't looking for it.


[14-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not whatever ideological stuff you're on about.


[14-Aug-20 04:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the data is points on a graph. I won't contest the idea that capitalism can strip people of their agency, but I argue that authority strips far more agency that even the most lassiez-faire economies could


[14-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Points on a graph can reveal deep truths, they actually do matter.


[14-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
What happens when people start rejecting the idea of borders in large amounts?


[14-Aug-20 04:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
people aren't data points, especially based on such a limited numbers of variables


[14-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Do they switch political philosophies about economics as a result?


[14-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People aren't, populations are


[14-Aug-20 04:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe, maybe not, but I'm not talking about borders vs. economic policies


[14-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Anyways, the point was that political compasses seem to be inadequate.


[14-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a political boomerang.


[14-Aug-20 04:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, I think so too. not enough variables, but I don't think all the variables in the world would matter


[14-Aug-20 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
as a politician, if you have no way to judge what your constituents want other than on an individual basis, how do you decide what policy to enact????


[14-Aug-20 04:49 AM] byte[]#2610
these breakdowns and categorizations are a way to try to make sense of what people want policywise


[14-Aug-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
in aggregate


[14-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
@Talisa Pierce#5489 ```No it would lead to you being sent to a Gulag cuz your neighbor dint like your dog barking so late at night.``` in capitalism it would lead to you getting shot by police cause your neighbour didn't like you playing games loudly, so he faked a violent domestic dispute call. Same outcome :wheeze:


[14-Aug-20 04:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[14-Aug-20 04:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
collectivism sucks because that's how you just lump people into groups


[14-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent You're a bit late, they tried to smear crap in general-discussion after being muted, so gave them a ban.


[14-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, okay.


[14-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
(literally they called me and TSP both Nazis and Communists...I'm not sure how that even works)


[14-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[14-Aug-20 04:51 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, the anti-asian discrimination is a big thing at most universities


[14-Aug-20 04:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Nazbol gang


[14-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Opponent#3498
I know a guy who got called both a feminist and a mysoginist in a single paragraph for the book they wrote, so it's clearly no that uncommon.


[14-Aug-20 04:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
Anti-asian and anti-white, or so the DOJ says.


[14-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I guess it's possible. Terfs are a certain kind of misogynist


[14-Aug-20 04:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
sounds like maybe lumping people in groups is how we got there


[14-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think that's to do with affirmative action gone wild.


[14-Aug-20 04:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
`I know a guy who got called both a feminist and a mysoginist`
Also not mutually exclusive.
You can want women to have rights and also hate them.


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Affirmative action sounds great until it applies to systems that exclude or penalize people


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yale goes "you're white, so no", basically.


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then they brag about how diverse their student body is.


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yep


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not sure affirmative action ever sounded great, even on paper


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
While most likely not giving shit to students that struggle.


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can go and reduce the concept to "statistically, if you're white you're already ahead"


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
What about poor white people?


[14-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Affirmative action if it meant like, giv some resources to people who got racially shat on, would probably be fine.


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In practice, a lot of people that tried their best and worked hard and were put down all the time will get fucked over


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's why I try and look past the stats


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Admissions is really the wrong place to do it.


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] >That Guy#3386
Give them money for their public schools instead, so they have a chance.


[14-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, "it sounds great" until you think about it for a few seconds


[14-Aug-20 04:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's discrimination.


[14-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"X population has been systematically oppressed for generations, so let's give them a boost!" is a great soundbite; effectively, it's fucking over everyone else


[14-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless it's an absurdly complex case by case system


[14-Aug-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem is that it becomes "let's give them a boost by stepping on everyone else"


[14-Aug-20 04:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and sadly government was never equipped to handle case by case


[14-Aug-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of working on fixing the inequalities in society at their roots


[14-Aug-20 04:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's why we are better off on our own, not with a group we've been lumped into


[14-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a flawed system and I can agree with changing it. What's a better approach then? Other than "do nothing and just accept that institutional bias is going to exist" of course.


[14-Aug-20 04:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd actually really like to know though: how would you fix the inequalities of our society are their roots? many have tried, made progress, but I don't think we will ever be there
It's always a matter of perspective


[14-Aug-20 04:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
some people will always try to blame a group for society's and their own personal ills


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and they will always to get some to follow their view


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
```MLP also depicts absolute monarchy in a positive light, and I doubt most of us are in favor of that.```
a benevolent ageless being that isn't entirely out of touch with the subjects and genuinly works for their benefit? You know, I'd be absolutely down with that.


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
she turns ponies into stone


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
You can't fight discrimination with more discrimination; it's worse than doing nothing.


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Opponent#3498
human rulers are typically none of that.


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and displays them in her garden


[14-Aug-20 05:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Human rulers had "divine right" bullshit.


[14-Aug-20 05:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
celestia literally is divine right, she literally raises the sun


[14-Aug-20 05:01 AM] byte[]#2610
:golly:


[14-Aug-20 05:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
if they said no they'd literally be fucked


[14-Aug-20 05:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
Also, if there were some thousand year old ~~vampire~~ person out there, that wouldn't automatically qualify them as fit to rule.


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah but what if they also raised the sun?


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
absolutely not. In the show, she's qualified by the history of success though.


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yeah, it's the sun part.


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hm. Equestria has local democracies (i.e. Mayor Mare) but absolute monarchy at the highest level. I think if Celestia was more of a "hands off" monarch and mostly let the local governments do their thing it'd be okay? We don't really know to what extent she governs, honestly.


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's probably more the whole sun thing


[14-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
also the sun can totally be raised without her, as proven on multiple occasions. It worked before her. It probably will after her, if need be.


[14-Aug-20 05:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Celestia has an absolute monarchy on power: if she didn't raise the sun they'd literally all die


[14-Aug-20 05:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
A thousand years ago, there was a revolution in Equestria.
Celestia: "Just try to decapitate me, puny mortals! See how long you all last without *the sun!*"


[14-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the only being that loudly proclaimed that unpromted in living memory was not, in fact, herself.


[14-Aug-20 05:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I mean, shit literally had to happen like that
Discord was turned into stone for ~1000 years


[14-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And possibly 1000 more if Celestia hadn't - on a whim - decided he might be useful and unfrozen him.


[14-Aug-20 05:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
she didn't even unfreeze him though


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, got the ponies to unfreeze him


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
oh wait yeah
I meant the first time


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In Keep Calm and Flutter On, she had him released specifically so Fluttershy could reform him I mean.


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
god damn
Celestia literally robbed him of his agency


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] byte[]#2610
the extent she governs is "lol what's government" tier as evidenced by what happened in A Royal Problem, Horse Play, Between Dark and Dawn, ...


[14-Aug-20 05:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
he didn't even kill people, he just made shit kinda crazy


[14-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
reasonable, something had to be done about him eventually.


[14-Aug-20 05:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well, maybe he was working towards it, since he was causing crop blight


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[14-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, well, the problem with shit kinda crazy is, there goes your entire economy, lol. Less worrying when the entire population can graze, okay, but still.


[14-Aug-20 05:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but he's like a local area criminal. Celestia is like cosmic horror level


[14-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
he trivially hijacks sun and moon, just to prove a point to Twilight.


[14-Aug-20 05:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
oh yeah


[14-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
he's not a 'local area criminal'. Well, maybe as far as their local bit of space goes.


[14-Aug-20 05:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they are both assholes with too much power


[14-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Discord is a cosmic comedy


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not a Chaos God like wh40k, but he's pretty up there with the divine beings.


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I mean, this is a ruler who exiled her sister, her own blood to the fucking moon\


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
probably not blood tbh, but nvm that.


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't think they're biologically related?


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and I'm supposed to be like "yeah this is the good guy" when six regulars literally went and fucking saved her from the evil spirit in a night?


[14-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Opponent#3498
also not 'to' the moon, rather than 'into' the moon. It's not a 1k year solo confinement.


[14-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
at least definitely not a conventional one, it's explicitly stated as such.


[14-Aug-20 05:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
this is a ruler who turned someone into stone for 1000 years


[14-Aug-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
S1 and S2 were a little fucky wucky with the punishments :twismug:


[14-Aug-20 05:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
doesn't matter either way


[14-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
the series ends with turning a literal child into a statue

She's a bad kid but she's *a kid*


[14-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano well they share basicly nothing besides being alicorns. I think the 'sister' bit comes from the habit, a significant time as dual rules beforehand and so on, not any familiar connections.


[14-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, Pinkie looks pretty different from her sisters.


[14-Aug-20 05:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nah celestia was at some point but holy shit she might actually be evil: she is at least 1000 years old plus a few years at the minimum


[14-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
true, it's a toss-up and we never got a real answer. Bit of a headcanon is all.


[14-Aug-20 05:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that has to do some shit to the brain
Either that or a lot of the lore is lies


[14-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also, they probably weren't always alicorns. Flurrie was said to be the first time an alicorn was *born* instead of transformed from something else.


[14-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Opponent#3498
age doesn't turn you evil. If there's no biological degrading, you might get out of touch or indifferent to things, but not actively evil


[14-Aug-20 05:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe it was mental degradation


[14-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd eventually forget things


[14-Aug-20 05:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but still, holy shit it kind of seems like what she did was wrong


[14-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Opponent#3498
and why would there be? Alicorns in particular are built to last.


[14-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What Discord did to the villains of the final season would be legally classified as entrapment, I think.

He basically told them to go commit a crime and then punished them for doing it.


[14-Aug-20 05:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
In the MLP tabletop game, there is a whole story called curse of the statuettes where there is a staff that turns ponies into statuettes. This occurs in ancient ruins. Who was raising the sun before celestia?


[14-Aug-20 05:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think celestia has been turning ponies into inanimate objects for time immemorial


[14-Aug-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
I got the impression that Discord was trying to reform them


[14-Aug-20 05:15 AM] byte[]#2610
Remember the scene in _Frenemies_?


[14-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It seemed to me like they were just tools to test Twilight, but I kinda like the idea that he thought they might be redeemable.


[14-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Opponent#3498
is tabletop game even canon?


[14-Aug-20 05:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it should be, it's fun


[14-Aug-20 05:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but tartarus is canon, and it kinda allows at least something beyond turned to stone and probably still being able to think, considering what discord said


[14-Aug-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
There was a point where Tirek and Cozy Glow and Chrysalis thought to themselves "you know what, we _like_ being friends" before Chrysalis goes "wait, SHIT, magic of friendship"


[14-Aug-20 05:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I mean at that point, execution was probably more humane


[14-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, she's fixated hard on the predator thing.


[14-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, they're not strictly dead

They have the chance to awaken a thousand years or so from now in a new world where everyone's forgotten them and they can reinvent themselves


[14-Aug-20 05:17 AM] byte[]#2610
They almost _were_ reformed


[14-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Maybe Twilight's still kickin' around


[14-Aug-20 05:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
considering how many reformations happened in the series, celestia might just be a lazy sadist


[14-Aug-20 05:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As long as they're frozen and not *dead,* there's hope for them in the long run.


[14-Aug-20 05:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
she couldn't be assed to actually even save her sister for a millennium, I think she just enjoys doling out punishment but not the work to punish others


[14-Aug-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[14-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
mooning was likely far more difficult to reverse than stoning.


[14-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Opponent#3498
and also wasn't an option at the time. Conflict of interests with EoH likely.


[14-Aug-20 05:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and here's the thing, discord himself is a multidimensional cosmic horror, but holy shit even she turned him to stone for a thousand years


[14-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
mixing 'and' and '&' in the same sentence


[14-Aug-20 05:20 AM] byte[]#2610
in case you need a refresher, https://www.phanact.com/ponies/HD/MLPS9E8.mp4


[14-Aug-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
well, his physical manifestation on this dimension anyway.


[14-Aug-20 05:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
everybody click on the link at the same time and crash phanact's server


[14-Aug-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
maybe he _is_ limited to only one instance at a time, no matter what form it woudl take. And the stone locked him into it.


[14-Aug-20 05:21 AM] Opponent#3498
(would be a pretty interesting take I haven't seen before)


[14-Aug-20 05:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe he is, but holy shit 1000 years trapped like that?


[14-Aug-20 05:22 AM] Opponent#3498
who says he's trapped? Certainly didn't seem like he was overly upset about it too.


[14-Aug-20 05:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe it's different for these immortal entities but still


[14-Aug-20 05:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and she sends mortals to do that bidding, kinda sounds like being a bad person


[14-Aug-20 05:23 AM] Opponent#3498
you said it yourself, Discord in particular is multidimensional. She locked him out of 'here', specifically.


[14-Aug-20 05:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but still, there were other statues in the garden


[14-Aug-20 05:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
also in the first two episodes, celestia wasn't shown being freed, and Luna is much younger than future appearances


[14-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
Celestia literally 'spawns' from the Sun.


[14-Aug-20 05:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it looked very much like she surrendered and banked on Twilight to get the job done.


[14-Aug-20 05:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yes and she is literally a mad god - solar flare wasn't an alternate reality it was how she was in the past


[14-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
(_that_ was an asshole move with how little she gave her to work with btw)


[14-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Luna is just "depowered," not younger. When next we see her, she's powered up and her hair's all magic and flowy again.


[14-Aug-20 05:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
exactly, how did she know that shit would work out. Twilight might have tried to stop nightmare moon on her own


[14-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Opponent#3498
hope? Divination? She's not perfect nor a God, not even a small g.


[14-Aug-20 05:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It actually feels super nice to discuss this stuff. I missed doing this


[14-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Opponent#3498
it was a close call that worked out.


[14-Aug-20 05:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but holy shit she literally raises the sun - and the moon, for at least 1000 years


[14-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Opponent#3498
her being attuned to a celestial entity is nice, but that goes in line with what cutie marks give ponies in general, scaled up to an alicorn


[14-Aug-20 05:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
She's a divine entity
I know I wouldn't want to fuck with a being who literally makes sure food grows. After all, what would happen if a pony killed her?


[14-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Opponent#3498
again with the sun. She's _best_ at raising the sun. She's not the only one who can.


[14-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Opponent#3498
the ability is absolutely transferable too, referring to the movie.


[14-Aug-20 05:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yes but think about all the previous alicorns who crossed her


[14-Aug-20 05:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
She is waiting to devour the alicorn baby


[14-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
there's Twilight, and she's fine (I'll disregard the titanic brain move of leaving the Princess of Crippling Phobias as a sole ruler out of the blue for no good reason and pretend it never existed)


[14-Aug-20 05:31 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the point is, she is the most powerful alicorn, and no other alicorns existed until hasbro wanted to make more toys. every other alicorn bends the knee to her


[14-Aug-20 05:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Nobody fights her absolute power beyond a few immortals and demigods


[14-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Opponent#3498
and a guy with a magical staff. And some forgotten half-finished project by Discord.


[14-Aug-20 05:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
She used twilight as a tool to uphold her absolute power


[14-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Opponent#3498
and, shit, who else... Bottom line, the planning for attack on Equestria begins with the bullet point 'deal with Celestia'. And there _are_ apparently plenty of options for that.


[14-Aug-20 05:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe one day she will allow twilight to challenge her power, but that day will only come when she tires of the fuss
The rest of the mane cast grew older
Twilight did not


[14-Aug-20 05:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that was by the design of a mad goddess and celestia is her name


[14-Aug-20 05:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the only one who could challenge her was forced into her eternal loyalty


[14-Aug-20 05:35 AM] aperture_tech#5247
MLP isn't a monarchy, it's an actual literal theocracy is the point I'm trying to make here


[14-Aug-20 05:37 AM] aperture_tech#5247
power wasn't given to the ruler by god, the ruler is a literal goddess with a small g because Luna is also there but she knows what is in wait if she questions her sister


[14-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
never forget

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[14-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Clearly Twilight's going to snap her friends into alicorns just before they die so they can live forever or at least a really long time


[14-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, yeah. I've always banked on Mane 6 ascending and coming to be known as 'The First Bearers'


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
It'll be like that Greek myth where they live forever but continue to age as mortals, unable to die as their bodies shrink and deteriorate in excruciating pain.


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
hasbro writers telling lies, let me guess, it's a day that ends in y


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the S9 finale is stupid


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
why did twilight ascend and not her friends


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Opponent#3498
'the last problem' is a clusterfuck and it's best to be ignored


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
or Twilight ends up getting killed somehow and ergo does not outlive her friends


[14-Aug-20 05:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Celestia didn't reward twilight, it was the worst punishment of the series
she forced her to watch her friends die before her


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
at this point you're just having a hateboner for Celestia :P


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Don't forget that Twi has a fukking castle


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I just think it's fun to think about


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
with a magical map of whereever bad stuff is going on


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
and thrones for all her friends in a round table setup.


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Complete with the rotting corpse of her old home.


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's overanalyzing it
and yes, the map? that's state surveillance


[14-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
BUT NOPE YOU GOTTA GO TO CANTERLOT BITCH


[14-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
FOR YOUR SECOND CORONATION


[14-Aug-20 05:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it even extends outside of canterlot, must be a comment on the patriot act


[14-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
IN THE CAPITAL THAT IS A LEAF NODE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK


[14-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
INSTEAD OF THE TOWN THAT IS AT THE HEART OF SAID NETWORK


[14-Aug-20 05:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
absolute power corrupts absolutely: Celestia is no saint


[14-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah well hateboner for Celestia is a my nope flag so you have fun with that.


[14-Aug-20 05:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
also, what of the batponies? they are exclusively Luna's guards. Are they even paid? Are they just slaves?


[14-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Love slaves :lusty:


[14-Aug-20 05:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's not just Celestia though, this goes all the way to the top


[14-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
...the top above Celestia?


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
She's the Sun God, who's higher?


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
ask yourself: who controls celestia?


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen that before, people _rrreeeeaaallllyyy_ want to prove Celestia being the evil incarnate to maintain the mortals as the only 'okay' ones. I disagree but it's impossible to argue.


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Celestia's digestive system, of course!

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[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm just having fun with this


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
Equestria is truly controlled by a desire for cakes and a need to poop them out afterward.


[14-Aug-20 05:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a kid's cartoon, there isn't some underlying message here


[14-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Possibility: Bat ponies are just pegasi in themed costumes because Luna has a flair for the dramatic.


[14-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the unsustainable system of capitalist consumption.


[14-Aug-20 05:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I do like that idea, it's just part of their uniform


[14-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even the *eyes*?


[14-Aug-20 05:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yes they wear contacts


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
Luna came for Nightmare Night.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ultimately Equestria's political system makes no sense.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
it really stands to reason that she'd dress up her guards. She genuinly wanted to present herself at her best.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And yes contacts exist in equestria, there are too few glasses wearers to not have ponies with contacts


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems to go directly from federal absolute monarchy to local representative democracy.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Opponent#3498
or, at least as 'best' as she could manage.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Princess meets with mayors.


[14-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
...so who the fukk makes the laws?


[14-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Does Celestia hav to write out every single piece of shit?


[14-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who enforces the laws?


[14-Aug-20 05:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The one at the top: MA Larson


[14-Aug-20 05:46 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
hows trump's altitude to china these days? is he threaten to have a war against china?


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think you mean attitude.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Unless Trump is high about China.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is a fair assesment of him on most topics.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
why would trump threaten the republic of china?


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i hope he is because ive put all my money into military stonks


[14-Aug-20 05:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they are good and cool and I haven't seen him threaten them


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump regularly says China is bad.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
And a big threat.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Opponent#3498
I imagine there are committees on relevant topics, like the weather management thing. Celestia talking to the Mayor is her trying to stay in touch and micromanaging. Perhaps not the best possible option but she went with it because why not.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then he acts buddy-buddy with them in negotiations.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a tactic...and a very bad one.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] byte[]#2610
Did you see that Cohen all but confirmed that Trump is into watersports today

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[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
not the republic of china
I guess you mean the other one that I don't recognize


[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
is the piss tape real???

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[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Did not need that image.

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[14-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gimme piss tape.

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[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
It'll make up for the first half of 2016.


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh god it's everywhere


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was just him peeing on a prostitute in a bed the Obamas once slept in, supposedly


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
That sounds like a porn goldmine, Its.


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Anyway, I don't understand why trump would want to go to war with the republic of china, we sell weapons to them


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Peeing on a prostitute to mark his territory where Obama was?


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
for Trump, it isn't even about the prositute

It's about pissing on Obama's legacy

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[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@aperture_tech he wouldn't, that's the point.


[14-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm pretty sure someone in Kentucky just nutted into their sister early.

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[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Obama's legacy" is the name of the bed.


[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's where he showed Michele how he can bomb the middle east remotely.


[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even in Russia.


[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
What was obama's legacy? drone strikes on civilians?


[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
most def


[14-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the joke I was making, yes.


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I say Trump bad all the time because Trump is the current president, but make no msitake, Obama also bad


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
why are modern american politicians so fucking garbage?


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michael-cohen-trump-book-read-foreword-golden-shower-sex-fraud-disloyal-memoir-a9669826.html

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'From golden showers to tax fraud': Michael Cohen releases explosiv...
Trump's former personal attorney makes astonishing new allegations in foreword to tell-all memoir
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/03/18/13/michael-cohen-prison-coronavirus-release-.jpg


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woodrow Wilson.


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
Woodrow Wilson is why.


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they are all just so fucking lame
At least we could have one who is like an actual fucking maniac asshole


[14-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Bruh


[14-Aug-20 05:52 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Ill earn enough money to buy a fursuit if Trump can keep threatening china until the election

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[14-Aug-20 05:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and that's the thing with trump, he hasn't done shit in terms of internationally, the dude is literally 100% bark


[14-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Oh he's done shit


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
by destroying our ability to negotiate.


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well yeah
shit that fucks over america


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's caused damage that could take 20 years to recover from.


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
he has
It's called listening to kushner


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
RIP State Dept.


[14-Aug-20 05:53 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
why, trump is a good president

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[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Turns out, firing every to put in sycophants, and constantly saying there's too many people, leads to damaging crucial systems.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump is a terrible president.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't listen to intel briefings.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He acts on what he read online and heard on Fox.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He puts loyalty above ability.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I hate the neos, the only thing they care about is trying to fuck over regular people
also, not everyone in the cabinet is a sycophant. Some of them just needed a job


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
It all adds up.


[14-Aug-20 05:54 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
chinese experts call trump "a big present american people voted for china"


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
are you from china?


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
yes


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ah, so you're saying Trump being a shitty president is good for you.


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
ah, which one? the good one or the other one?


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
uh... so you're american?


[14-Aug-20 05:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No I am Finnish


[14-Aug-20 05:56 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
it should be midnight now in America


[14-Aug-20 05:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah it is


[14-Aug-20 05:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm in america right now so I know


[14-Aug-20 05:57 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
you don't sleep?


[14-Aug-20 05:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
never


[14-Aug-20 05:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I can sleep when I'm dead, my football coach said that


[14-Aug-20 05:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
never slept a day in my life since then, just rested my eyes


[14-Aug-20 06:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
that's really powerful brain


[14-Aug-20 06:00 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
:bigbrain:


[14-Aug-20 06:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah that's what my coach said after my 5th concussion


[14-Aug-20 06:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
do they allow clop in china or does the PRC stop you from looking at it?


[14-Aug-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
I am pretty sure derpibooru.org is banned


[14-Aug-20 06:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well that's why the trixiebooru mirror exists


[14-Aug-20 06:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
not yet


[14-Aug-20 06:02 AM] byte[]#2610
no, trixiebooru.org exists for people with multiple accounts


[14-Aug-20 06:02 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
clop is totally legal


[14-Aug-20 06:03 AM] byte[]#2610
as a hack workaround


[14-Aug-20 06:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
gotta keep the mongolians pacified, otherwise they might knock down the great wall, huh?


[14-Aug-20 06:03 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
we even have "adult experience shops" these years


[14-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
which is like brothels, but its cartoon models instead of real persons


[14-Aug-20 06:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that's cool


[14-Aug-20 06:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
are there pony ones?


[14-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
no


[14-Aug-20 06:04 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i can't stand those rubber models


[14-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
looks spooky


[14-Aug-20 06:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you should start a pony adult experience shop


[14-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Wait, what would that even entail?

You go to a physical store and pay to look at a cartoon or what?


[14-Aug-20 06:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'd come visit for that


[14-Aug-20 06:06 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
just a sex toy, you pay to use it


[14-Aug-20 06:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
in terms of the actual pony cartoon do you prefer subs or the dub? is there a chinese dub of mlp?


[14-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ohh, I see.


[14-Aug-20 06:06 AM] byte[]#2610
quiet part loud https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-congress-idUSKCN2591PU

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Trump holds up coronavirus aid to block funding for mail-in voting
President Donald Trump said on Thursday he was blocking Democrats' effort to include funds for the U.S. Postal Service and election infrastructure in a new coronavirus relief bill, a bid to block more Americans from voting by mail during the pandemic.
https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200813&t=2&i=1529563007&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG7C1YE


[14-Aug-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admits-he-wants-block-usps-funding-sabotage-mail-voting-2020-8

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Trump admits he's refusing to fund the US Postal Service to sabotag...
"If they don't get those two items that means you can't have universal mail-in voting," Trump said of a grant and funding increase for the USPS.
https://i.insider.com/5f353dace89ebf001f04440a?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Aug-20 06:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
okay we get it Trump is being a politician and doing dirty shit I want to hear more about china


[14-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Most politicians aren't this blatant about their corruption at least. The man is a cartoon bad guy.


[14-Aug-20 06:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
the chinese dub of mlp is shit


[14-Aug-20 06:08 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
voice actors change too often


[14-Aug-20 06:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The japanese dub was alright


[14-Aug-20 06:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it had a good theme song
I tricked my friends by saying it was an anime


[14-Aug-20 06:09 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
and they have too much bad translation


[14-Aug-20 06:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/these-are-felonies-lawyers-react-with-horror-to-reports-of-post-office-removing-mail-sorting-machines

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Colin Kalmbacher
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/these-are-felonies-lawyers-react-with-horror-to-reports-of-post-office-removing-mail-sorting-machines
‘These Are Felonies’: Lawyers React with Horror to Reports of Post ...
The process of removing those machines has stoked fears that President Donald Trump and his allies in the executive branch are intentionally sabotaging mail operations to frustrate mail-in voting.
https://lawandcrime.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/GettyImages-12661508191.jpg


[14-Aug-20 06:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
ah that's a shame man, is the dub better?


[14-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking got any hot takes on this?


[14-Aug-20 06:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I got a hot take: the author of that article is actually politically motivated


[14-Aug-20 06:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
go to his twitter and check his following


[14-Aug-20 06:11 AM] byte[]#2610
here's a different report then https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-turning-off-mail-sorting-machines-ahead-of-the-election-2020-8

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The USPS is shutting down mail-sorting machines crucial for process...
Over a dozen sorting machines — which can process 35,000 pieces of mail per hour — have reportedly been dismantled and removed in recent weeks.
https://i.insider.com/5f356ef2b4bb1c001df53165?width=1200&format=jpeg


[14-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How many more times will we throw an election to SCOTUS to decide along partisan lines before people won't take it anymore?


[14-Aug-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
@aperture_tech this is what you sound like


[14-Aug-20 06:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/tcyuvywq8kg51.jpg

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[14-Aug-20 06:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
please give me an article written by a person who doesn't just follow partisian politicians


[14-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There is no good reason to be gutting the post office.


[14-Aug-20 06:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I agree with that, but you don't need to make trump into some kind of villian for me to say he sucks


[14-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You don't think this is to reduce the number of voters?


[14-Aug-20 06:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
He's just another elderly man posing as the leader of the country


[14-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's giving Biden every reason to fight the results for months.


[14-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The only way Trump can win is if he cheats, and bad news for us, he's cheating.


[14-Aug-20 06:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It doesn't matter though, no matter the results. Some organizations will bitch and some others will say it's categorically correct


[14-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I doubt we will know the future president on the night of November 3rd.


[14-Aug-20 06:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Trump fucking sucks, and so does biden


[14-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And yet only one of them is obviously trying to cheat the election.


[14-Aug-20 06:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
They are both old men, going for an attempt to rule the world


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] byte[]#2610
BSABSVR


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'll take the senile old man who's creepy and racist but *not* cheating the election, thank you very much.


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Alright, let's talk about the ways politicians have fucked over the way the vote works so their party gets to keep more votes


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Republicans have long held the position of reducing voting whenever possible, because the more people vote, the lower their victories are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw

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Paul Weyrich, "father" of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, Moral Majority and various other groups tells his flock that he doesn't want people to vote. He complains that fellow Christians have "Goo-Goo Syndrome": Good Government. Classic clip ...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8GBAsFwPglw/hqdefault.jpg


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's literally both - politics corrupts all


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats aren't trying to take away people's votes.


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are.


[14-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Democrats are bad but they aren't trying to make *less* people vote.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, they try and make new votes from people who can't


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Republicans are literally screaming about fraud


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These fucks would send us back to the landed gentry model if they got the chance.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
while gutting the systems necessary to prevent fraud.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are not doing this.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
fuck them both, it's all a joke
None have your or mine interest in mind


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Democrats are not screwing over the system.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're just screaming both are bad.


[14-Aug-20 06:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yes they are
That's how it works


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ignoring the actual information.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Is it really so hard to accept that Democrats might be better in some way?


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the actual information is it's a fucking game


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
evidence please

We *have* evidence of gerrymandering and voter suppression.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not a game.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's the political future.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it is a game


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should vote for the side that isn't trying to actively destroy our ability to vote.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you think they're trying to commit fraud while doing so, okay, show some evidence of that.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The side that would win if every American voted is the side that should win.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's possible in a large amount it could outweigh the sabotage.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
So far, I've not seen such evidence.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is meanwhile clear evidence of sabotage.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you mean the democrats? The party who has opposed voter ID for several elections now?


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Voter ID is commonly used to exclude people from voting.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If every American voted, no Republican would ever win again. They know this. Republicans rule through tyranny of the minority.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
European countries mandate ID for voting


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
While it may reduce rates of fraud, the fraud it reduces is tiny.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Actually, not all do.


[14-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Especially notable is the UK.


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
When the UK trialled voter ID, it caused problems.


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
America isn't a monolith


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UK tried voter ID, actually, and it went terribly, people were denied the ability to vote.


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Something to note


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
countries in mainland Europe that mandate ID to vote


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
also tend to like, provide free ID to people


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All citizens should be given a free ID so that it isn't an obstacle for them to vote, regardless of whether they have a driver's license or whatever. You turn 18, you are issued a government ID that's valid to vote with.


[14-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
in the US, ID usually costs money


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think ID should be given for free


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can in theory get free voting-only ID, but that's even more cumbersome than getting regular ID.


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Then we agree. The ID isn't the problem, but the fact that it's a financial barrier is. That needs to change.


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it should just be ssn


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
which is often made very difficult by the types of documents requested and issues in getting such documents as a poor person.


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
SSN wasn't designed as ID.


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
It was designed for one specific purpose and mutated into a sort of ID.


[14-Aug-20 06:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
well it is forced on us on birth


[14-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's meant to trakk you for collection of social security and later doling out.


[14-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The issue is in lieu of any national ID system, it gets used.


[14-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
But it's insecure.


[14-Aug-20 06:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
then I want to opt out
I don't care about voting, I just want to be left well enough along


[14-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't opt out of society.


[14-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
The entire point is everyone has to contribute.


[14-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are given societal stuff the moment you are born, and kind of owe something in return.


[14-Aug-20 06:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I don't want it


[14-Aug-20 06:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
also there was no consent to being born, that wasn't my choice


[14-Aug-20 06:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so why does a state get to push their values on me? a state where they told me I was part of when I was born


[14-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Welcome to the great problem of politics.


[14-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't leave.


[14-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can only vote for the party that maybe will leave you alone and be nice a little more often.


[14-Aug-20 06:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I can leave whenever I want, and fuck anybody who tells me I can't


[14-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
You'd need to escape all forms of government, and liv alone.


[14-Aug-20 06:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
live where?


[14-Aug-20 06:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The escape isn't about where you live, it's a state of mind


[14-Aug-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/trump-lying-reporter-6cf1cc32-4471-4a68-8cbf-2c03bf29d78c.html

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Reporter to Trump: "Do you regret all of the lying you have done to...
The WaPo fact-checker finds that Trump has made over 20,000 false or misleading claims.
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[14-Aug-20 06:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think a not insignificant number of Trump's supporters don't *really* care about him constantly lying and breaking the law.

He hurts people they don't like; That's enough. It doesn't matter if they don't get any material benefit or even if they're hurt too.


[14-Aug-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
libtard status: OWNED


[14-Aug-20 06:39 AM] byte[]#2610
left wing: DESTROYED


[14-Aug-20 06:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
who the fuck cares what trump says? What he does is what matters, and what he does is a lame fucking duck of a president like they've been my whole goddamn life.


[14-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We care because what he says often becomes law thanks to the spineless yes-men in his senate. And those decrees hurt people.


[14-Aug-20 06:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the two party system is the american cancer, this would actually be a cool country if we didn't treat president as king and actually allowed more parties to exist
either way, what really kills the american system is not congress or senate or even the president


[14-Aug-20 06:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it's the supreme court - appointed for life? Let me kiss your ring, royalty


[14-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I agree. It shouldn't be for life and it shouldn't be by presidential appointment


[14-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They should be elected by the people, and serve a limited term.


[14-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Supposedly, the reason for their life-long appointment was so they wouldn't be corrupted by trying to appeal to voters for reelection. but uh

supreme court justices tend to be mighty partisan regardless


[14-Aug-20 06:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
The system that feeds in is corrupted.


[14-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Judicial appointments by president are just bad in general.


[14-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Hav one side of congress appoint, the other confirm.


[14-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fukk the Executive.


[14-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I will say I'm pleasantly surprised by the GOP-majority supreme court actually ruling for LGBT nondiscrimination protection this year. Good on them for that.


[14-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch went horribly right for them.


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Fuck this two party system


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
They figured that if they brought up a judge to go TEXT SAYS THIS NO LEEWAY, that in practice the judge would apply society's wishes.


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead, the judge went TEXT SAYS THIS NO LEEWAY


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
And so ruled that those treaties we signed with natives? They're valid.


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

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The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) warned Pennsylvania officials in July that the state's election deadlines were too tight for the service's "delivery standards" and could result in mail-in ballots being delayed for several days.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/usps_getty04302020.jpg


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Hmmm


[14-Aug-20 06:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
it is literally a binary system


[14-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
And those rules we wrote that said no firing people differently by sex? Also valid.


[14-Aug-20 06:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but the binary systems that I know? they make logical fucking sense


[14-Aug-20 06:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
1 is 1 and 0 is 0
That is not a comment on gender btw


[14-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. I love that *technically,* discrimination against gay/trans people totally *is* sex discrimination.

If a woman can date a man and not be fired, but a man can't, then it's strictly speaking discrimination based on sex.


[14-Aug-20 06:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I was talking about computers


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch is everything conservatives feared about 14th amendment application.


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They want everyone to be like Thomas


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I just hate this shit where it's GOP versus DNC


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who doesn't even think Miranda rights should be a thing


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
The 14th amendment clearly says you can't write a law that applies differently to different people.


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh, I agree.

I'd much rather it be the DNC versus an actual progressive party. Maybe someday.


[14-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Nebbie#8545
That means no racism, sexism etc. in the law itself.


[14-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
The normal "textualist" argument is that when the 14th was written, it was under racist conditions.


[14-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
Thus racism can't hav been prohibited, as it was done without judges raising issue.


[14-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Nebbie#8545
But Gorsuch says no.


[14-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Letter of the law, baby.


[14-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gorsuch takes the actual true textualist reasoning.


[14-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is, 14th says no discrimination, so no discrimination.


[14-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
He doesn't care what people wanted at the time.


[14-Aug-20 06:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I just think that we should laugh at those who exclude other based on immutable characteristics. Or just laugh at them for being assholes. We shouldn't rob them of their agency. Trending towards inclusion is what we want


[14-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Shame doesn't work. Legislation does.


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Racists practically take pride in being exclusionary now.


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But I also wouldn't want to rob people of being assholes
then I would have nobody to laugh at


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] byte[]#2610
the problem with "laugh at them for being assholes" is that it doesn't magically make them stop being a dick


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It also doesn't help the people they're being assholes *to*


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so? Fuck them
you think the prison system will stop them from being racist?


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
It doesn't need to.


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
These laws aren't about punishing bigots, it's about protecting people *from* discrimination


[14-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Person fired for being gay? Giv them a big chekk.


[14-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
A chekk written by their former employer.


[14-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That business is going to change its policies in the end out of sheer necessity.


[14-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is why US judges favor monetary solutions to grievances.


[14-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Everyone cares about their money.


[14-Aug-20 06:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so how is putting someone into a for profit prison system stopping discrimination?


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
It offers a way to hurt the ones who acted bad and help the ones who got hurt, in a way proportional to what was done.


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You misunderstand. Most people will stop discriminating to *avoid* paying fines or getting into trouble.


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fining businesses generally works.


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not about punishment, it's about curtailing the problem.


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying people should necessarily be systematically excluded for being an asshole, but there have to be consequences beyond just being labeled a dick, as that can go right to your head


[14-Aug-20 06:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
that isn't curtailing the issues


[14-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Legislation changes and normalizes culture. Yes, some people are going to just begrudgingly stop discriminating because they *have* to, but you know what? As time goes on and gay people are increasingly allowed to work in all sectors without fear of losing their jobs - and years and years pass without incident - people who genuinely *want* to fire people just for being gay will become less and less common.


[14-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses will protect their money.


[14-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hit them in the wallet.


[14-Aug-20 07:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
There are so many issues with the very concept of that, it is literally robbing people of agency
I'm not talking about businesses, they are not people


[14-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well... that's all this law applies to.


[14-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The law isn't saying you aren't allowed to be homophobic. It's saying you can't fire or refuse to hire someone based on their sexuality.


[14-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This year's supreme court decision wasn't about interpersonal interactions or personal beliefs.


[14-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That obviously can't be legislated. Businesses can.


[14-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah, like

If you're worried about telling individual people they aren't allowed to be bigoted, that's not a thing. No decision was made to that effect or will be.


[14-Aug-20 07:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and fuck people for doing that, but holy shit, guess what you can still fire people for? a whole lot of stuff


[14-Aug-20 07:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and guess what? The fucking state can't get nuance worth shit


[14-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, and strictly speaking a bigot totally *can* still fire someone for race or gender or whatever if they claim it's for some other reason. It's not always possible to prove.

But I think it's important for the law to come out and say "workplace discrimination is illegal."


[14-Aug-20 07:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
They'd say firing someone for missing a day of work for gout flareup is valid when the real reason they were fired is because of who they are


[14-Aug-20 07:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
so what would the law say is workplace discrimination?


[14-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Here's an idea


[14-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, right now it *does* say that firing or refusing to hire based on race, sex (which includes sexuality and gender identity), religion, or disability (if it doesn't impair ability to do the job) are all illegal.


[14-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
maybe businesses should need an actual reason to fire you, like not doing your job, instead of being able to make something up.


[14-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
And discrimination is just unequal treatment in an institutionalized way.


[14-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if you tell all the other employees to disparage someone for being gay? Discrimination.


[14-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This isn't saying "You can't fire black people" It's saying you can't fire them *for* being black.


[14-Aug-20 07:06 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe the government shouldn't try and micromanage every part of our lives.
I can find a new job at the end of the day, I can't find a new government


[14-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Blakk guy didn't do his job? Okay fire him.


[14-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
White guy also didn't do his job? You better fire him too.


[14-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A lot of people *can't* find a new job at the end of the day. Job market's pretty bad right now.


[14-Aug-20 07:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah I fucking know


[14-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Gov't should absolutely micromanage businesses being shitty to workers.


[14-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Businesses will be extremely shitty.


[14-Aug-20 07:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You mean the businesses that pay a lot of dosh to the people who work in government?


[14-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah. This isn't the government micromanaging *your* life. It's the government protecting you from your bosses mistreating you.


[14-Aug-20 07:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's the two of them in bed together


[14-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
What is the argument, that because they pay taxes, they shouldn't be regulated?


[14-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...How? How is anti-discrimination bad for the worker in any way?


[14-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat


[14-Aug-20 07:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
not talking about taxes


[14-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
this is enforcing basic rules on how to treat employees


[14-Aug-20 07:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
campaign donations - and those laws are in the books and they are not enforced because businesses pay campaign funds


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...So we should just not *have* the laws because corruption happens sometimes?


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no, the system is fundamentally broken


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Maybe we should stop campaign donations.


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Rather than not enforcing anti-discrimination laws.


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
maybe the tree needs watering


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, but

How does this in any way make anti-discrimination laws bad?


[14-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
What does that hav to do with this?


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Restrict campaign donations and make campaign season 2 months long.


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
What doesn't it? Laws on paper don't mean shit when they aren't enforced


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Disallow funding political ads outside those 2 months.


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
But they are enforced...


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and what can you do to a business beyond fining it


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's why there was a case to begin with.


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Fining *works.*


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fining a business hard enuff makes a business not exist...


[14-Aug-20 07:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yeah, it works to make people into extremists


[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Businesses *exist* to make a profit. Businesses cut that shit out *real* quick if they lose money.


[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
fine a business because their employee said a mean word
that employee gets fired, and their name is dragged through the mud

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[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We do not placate bigots out of fear that they'll turn into even worse bigots if we stand up to them.


[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
...are you saying we shouldn't stop businesses from being racist shitpiles because it will make them so angry they become, like, Nazis?


[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how that works.


[14-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You are fundamentally not listening about what discrimination *is*.


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I know what discrimination is


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's about the employer and what goes on at work.


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone says a slur, the employer can go in and talk to them about how not to behave at work.


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's a larger power exerting power on a smaller one


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they refuse to comply with things, they can be forced out, for you know, making the workplace shitty to work in.


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but that isn't what happens when the media gets involved


[14-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
...are you saying because the gov't is bigger, it shouldn't make businesses act sane?


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm saying both fucking suck


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or that businesses shouldn't restrict what employees say in the workplace?


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think your argument makes sense.


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
exerting their power, telling us what to think and act


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Both sucking isn't an argument against anti-discrimination policies.


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not what to think, it's how to behave in the workplace.


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Employees and employers hav a relationship.


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This isn't about *you.* It's not about the people *doing* the discrimination. It's about protecting the people who experience it.


[14-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
A fukking *business* relationship.


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
no, my argument is to give the power to the people
And it's not about the workplace, since people are fired for actions outside of the workplace


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
wat.


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Fired *outside* the workplace?


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Fired for things they do off the clock, probably


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not related to this law.


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
This law is strictly about what happens in the workplace.


[14-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is nothing to do with firing someone for behavior outside it.


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav conflated things.


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
but that's what is happening
I'd rather not the state nor the company dictate my morality


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which is totally legal and always has been. Employers can have your behavior off the clock as part of your contract when you sign on with them.


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As a teacher, you bet I have guidelines about what I can and can't say or post online. I'd be out on my ass in a hot second if I went out and started posting a bunch of nonsense.


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
of course they can, but is it right? is it conducive to humanity? I reject that notion


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
The gov't could completely fukk off


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
and employers would still fire you for stuff outside of work.


[14-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact


[14-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
you know the way you get employers unable to fire you over things outside of work?


[14-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
There's a simple solution.


[14-Aug-20 07:17 AM] aperture_tech#5247
of course they could, I'm not arguing for corporate control either


[14-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The solution is *gasp* to ask the gov't to write a law.


[14-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
A law that says they can't fire you over political statements outside of work.


[14-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
That they can't discriminate on political affiliation.


[14-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"I hate [x group]" would probably not be considered a political statement, mind you. Businesses still have the discretion to regulate statements like that. But just "I voted for this guy or that guy," nah


[14-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Nebbie#8545
One where if they tried to pressure you out of the job with others being shitty to you at work, that would be considered discrimination.


[14-Aug-20 07:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they won't enforce that on the corps that give them kickbacks - you don't shit where you eat


[14-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
Then make kikkbakks illegal and get the FBI uncovering them.


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Oh, the FBI who are administrated by the politicians?


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
It seems like you believe everything can be solved by removing the gov't.


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not how this works.


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only way you stop employers from being shitty to you over what you think is with the gov't.


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yes the gov't can be corrupt.


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
You know how you fix that?


[14-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
By having other parts of the gov't go after it.


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
You hav to get so many eyes on things, nobody can pull off a conspiracy.


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's a great idea. Hey, maybe we can get the ATF to come in and shoot our fucking dogs. The only thing that you can ensure is not corrupted is yourself


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a strawman.


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
all else should be minimized as much allows for society


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
In fact, police shoot people's dogs primarily because *nobody investigates them*.


[14-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Minimizing gov't is what leads to shooting people's dogs.


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nope
they will shoot their dog if they feel it's a threat


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Training and investigations.


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Training to prevent it.


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Investigations to uncover it after the fact.


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
and guess what? who are you gonna complain to? the government? aka the group paying them?


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That requires more gov't.


[14-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, an independent (from them) part of the gov't.


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's the only way you get bad behavior stopped.


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, what else are you gonna do, make a citizen's arrest?


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
They would just ignore you.


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
the only "bad" thing is when somebody else crosses you


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
The employer crosses you


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
by firing you for your politics.


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
Who do you complain to?


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
What do you do?


[14-Aug-20 07:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
tries to prevent your agency
I find another job


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You keep getting fired, over and over.


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
No agency, you're screwed, homeless.


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So...who helps you?


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I can't find another government
haha, that already happens


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
You kinda need the gov't to go after the employers.


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
nobody helps you because it's just you
survive or perish


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Nebbie#8545
So you sit homeless, dying, in love with how no gov't stepped in, right?


[14-Aug-20 07:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It is not up to administrations of man to prop you up


[14-Aug-20 07:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You think the only homes are in the cities?


[14-Aug-20 07:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
acres and acres of land sit unoccupied


[14-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cities hav nothing to do with this.


[14-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Those lands are owned.


[14-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
You gonna shoot the owners?


[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It takes a dark mind to instantly go to shooting


[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't afford to buy the land, the price is jakked up.


[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is going to giv it to you.


[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
can you like not type ck

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[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
You either shoot people, or you get the gov't to force it to be given up.


[14-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
So I guess following your morality, you don't get the land.


[14-Aug-20 07:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I actually gotta know, because you keep spelling ck as kk


[14-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which then means you would go homeless.


[14-Aug-20 07:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
you are already homeless
either the government or the company owns you


[14-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you know, at least you didn't rely on the gov't :wheeze:


[14-Aug-20 07:28 AM] aperture_tech#5247
give me liberty or give me death

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[14-Aug-20 07:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/511468-trump-on-frayed-relationship-with-chinas-xi-i-havent-spoken-to-him-in

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Trump on frayed relationship with China's Xi: 'I haven't spoken to ...
President Trump on Tuesday said he hasn't spoken to Chinese President Xi Jinping in "a long time," telling a sports radio host that the relationship between the two leaders has frayed due to the coronavirus.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_jinpingxi_052920getty_split_us-china.jpg


[14-Aug-20 07:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
xi-trump best ship


[14-Aug-20 07:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
yes they are both best buddies in my headcanon


[14-Aug-20 07:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
they watch cartoons together and have a grand ol time, sometimes other world leaders are guest stars


[14-Aug-20 07:31 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[14-Aug-20 07:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
don't worry, it's just the season arc


[14-Aug-20 07:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
when it looks like war is coming, they'll make up, they always do


[14-Aug-20 07:32 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
the more i read this, the more its like a love story in anime


[14-Aug-20 07:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
more of a buddy comedy in how I see it


[14-Aug-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/politics/trump-campaign-voter-fraud-lawsuit-pennsylvania/index.html

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Judge orders Trump campaign to produce evidence of voter fraud in P...
A federal judge in Pennsylvania told the Trump campaign and the Republican Party that they must produce evidence they have of vote-by-mail fraud in the state by Friday.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200427153246-i-voted-stickers-0407-super-tease.jpg


[14-Aug-20 07:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh oh guys, the judge said put up or shut up.


[14-Aug-20 07:55 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Uh oh, more posturing and empty words that mean nothing


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Politicians debating politicians


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Uh oh a man fell into the river in LEGO city.


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Uh, aperture


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
there's a judge involved


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
who made a ruling.


[14-Aug-20 07:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
A politician


[14-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's not politicians debating politicians.


[14-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
Trump's campaign must produce the evidence to support their allegations, or say they hav none, by Friday.


[14-Aug-20 07:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It is though: judges are politicians


[14-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
That is an action, not debating.


[14-Aug-20 07:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
All they have are endless words. I'd say meaningless if it was any other person but shitty words from shitty politicians actually can bring consequences to me. What makes them so special? And this isn't action. It's a call for more empty words from those who are meant to lead.


[14-Aug-20 08:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This only applies to Pennsylvania, not the whole country, yeah?


[14-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So even if Trump fails - and I'm sure he will - it won't mean mail-in voting for all. We still have a ways to go.


[14-Aug-20 08:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Haha only


[14-Aug-20 08:02 AM] wren#0114
this was trump and gop suing penn over mail in voting iirc


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
There is no only - these people never represented me


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Penn winning could set precedent for the other states though


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] wren#0114
the judge is telling them to provide evidence of voter fraud, pursuant to the case which trump started


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] wren#0114
so this isn't empty words I mean


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It sounds like shit that tax money is being wasted on


[14-Aug-20 08:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Hopefully it does. It's a longshot, but man I'd *love* if I could actually vote by mail down here in Louisiana.


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
As I said


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
put up or shut up.


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Here's a new precedent, people should stop being fucks


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's what the judge is saying.


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] wren#0114
the federal court system is not a waste of tax money


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] wren#0114
it's important


[14-Aug-20 08:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No it isn't


[14-Aug-20 08:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Nothing fucking matters, it's all a damn joke


[14-Aug-20 08:05 AM] wren#0114
ok doomer


[14-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
aperture, with all due respect, you seem to be passionately arguing - with real conviction and care - for why we shouldn't care about anything


[14-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>he says we shouldn't care


[14-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
>he cares a lot that we care


[14-Aug-20 08:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nihilism's just not for me, man. I want the world I live in to matter.


[14-Aug-20 08:07 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm not arguing about not caring about anything. It's just kinda fucking hard to say what I mean. I'm not always super good at communicating this shit. But what I want to know is that I matter. That isn't for a company or a government or even anyone else to decide


[14-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Sounds like a personal journey, man. And I sincerely wish you the best at it, but I don't think figuring out that you matter precludes the government from recognizing that its citizens should be treated fairly, as a separate but also important issue.


[14-Aug-20 08:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But what I see as fair is letting people do what they they want so long as it doesn't mean trampling on others


[14-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And isn't discrimination trampling on others?


[14-Aug-20 08:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And that's the difficult part of restricting what others can and can't do - it can always be twisted and turned around


[14-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't see how. Remember, anti-racist discrimination protects white people too. Anti-sexist discrimination protects men and straight and cis people too.


[14-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It applies unilaterally across the board to everyone.


[14-Aug-20 08:11 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
:wheeze:


[14-Aug-20 08:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You laugh but it's the law. If someone overtly fired someone for being white they'd be fined.


[14-Aug-20 08:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Anti-racism rings hollow, because what if the government one day decided that orange haired people are a race?


[14-Aug-20 08:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course that never *happens* but the law does prohibit it.


[14-Aug-20 08:11 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And that's the thing about the "law" because the law is only beholden to those who uphold it


[14-Aug-20 08:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And they can and have decided what that means and when


[14-Aug-20 08:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Would you rather there *be* no law?


[14-Aug-20 08:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
If something never happens then how x thing can protect y thing


[14-Aug-20 08:12 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It can prevent it from ever happening in advance, friend.


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No, I would rather not, but I also don't want to live in a country where I would be arrested because I said the word you can't say


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Not when we talking about white people


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that's *not what this law means* holy SHIT


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Not talking about that law


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
but

We were!


[14-Aug-20 08:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I wasn't


[14-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's what you'd "get arrested" for. Law. You can't get arrested for just being disliked.


[14-Aug-20 08:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I was talking about this campaign to end "discrimination"


[14-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Why even bring up getting arrested for saying words if you're supposedly not talking about the law?


[14-Aug-20 08:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
About that law


[14-Aug-20 08:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Not the law.
I'm talking about where we end up. People divided against people because somebody said something unpopular


[14-Aug-20 08:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What the Supreme Court ruled on a couple of months ago is simply that you can't be fired or refused employment based on your sexuality or identity - because strictly speaking, that's sex discrimination, which has already been illegal for decades.


[14-Aug-20 08:15 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And that never should have been in question


[14-Aug-20 08:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So we agree that this is a good and just law then?


[14-Aug-20 08:16 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, but the only thing that allows us to believe that will actually be upheld is little more than words


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pretty sure it's being upheld.


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
The very ruling came with cases, do realize.


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It is. There've already been lawsuits over workplace discrimination.


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
Cases people won.


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So yes, objectively the law works.


[14-Aug-20 08:17 AM] Nebbie#8545
SCOTUS didn't just say that you can't be fired for being gay, they also said a specific guy gets his payout for being fired for being gay.


[14-Aug-20 08:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nobody is talking about making it illegal to *be* racist or say racist things. That isn't something that has much chance of passing here.


[14-Aug-20 08:19 AM] aperture_tech#5247
How many more were missed? People fired because of an immutable aspect fired because they didn't correctly apply the adhesive to the phone screen according to the business but it was because of who they were?
The law only works if there is a lawyer willing to defend them


[14-Aug-20 08:20 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Right fucking now a lot of people don't have the money to pursue that kind of case


[14-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The law works whether or not it works 100% of the time. That it exists at all protects people and makes employers think twice before unjustly firing them.


[14-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We as a society are better with it than we were without.


[14-Aug-20 08:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It makes employers look at every last employee and ask "are they worth keeping around, or are they a risk"


[14-Aug-20 08:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That doesn't make any sense.


[14-Aug-20 08:21 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Because that's what it is. Making people into numbers and risk assessments


[14-Aug-20 08:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's what employment kinda already is under capitalism anyway. Bosses care about their bottom line, not their workers in the vast majority of cases.


[14-Aug-20 08:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
After all, if the business got sued they might need to make cutbacks. All in the name of utility. At least that would be what they claim


[14-Aug-20 08:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And no shit that's what it is under capitalism


[14-Aug-20 08:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...So they'd *avoid* unjustly firing someone.


[14-Aug-20 08:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which makes sense. Ergo, law working as intended.


[14-Aug-20 08:23 AM] aperture_tech#5247
More like they'd nip a potential risk in the bud sooner


[14-Aug-20 08:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"I'd better fire this gay guy for being gay now so I don't get in trouble for firing this gay guy for being gay later"

??????????


[14-Aug-20 08:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
These forces work against each other. Any business worth it's salt is meant to make money


[14-Aug-20 08:24 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No, it means time to find a reason so the gay guy doesn't cause problems down the road


[14-Aug-20 08:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You think HR isn't constantly making risk assessments on what you do at work or whatever else they can track?


[14-Aug-20 08:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's business, and it's part of the fucking machine


[14-Aug-20 08:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're welcome to try. But if it can be determined that's why they fired him, there'll be a check to pay then and there.

If anything letting them work there for a good long while, *knowing* they're gay and openly having no problem with it gives you an airtight justification to fire them later if they do end up being a fuckup


[14-Aug-20 08:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because it's clearly not about their sexuality, since you were openly cool with it


[14-Aug-20 08:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But that's if he has the funds and right now a lot of people don't have those funds


[14-Aug-20 08:26 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And yes it isn't about their sexuality


[14-Aug-20 08:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, that's correct. Same for literally any law. You need to pay for representation in court to sue someone.

That doesn't mean those laws shouldn't exist.


[14-Aug-20 08:27 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It isn't about the people, it's about the machine where I take issue


[14-Aug-20 08:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The machine is broken, because it assigns value based simply on variables. Being human is more than a set of variables


[14-Aug-20 08:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, what's your proposed fix then?


[14-Aug-20 08:29 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Maybe we need to try to be more human? Not just slap the first label we can on others


[14-Aug-20 08:30 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I've been working to stop doing that, because it starts with me


[14-Aug-20 08:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Okay. What is the "human" response to someone who's been wrongly fired for some immutable quality?


[14-Aug-20 08:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But I've seen a lot of people instantly say "oh those people who like Trump are fucking inbred rednecks" or "those people who voted Bernie are dyed in red commie stoners" or whatever else fallacy you can invent.
And the human response is not firing them in the first place


[14-Aug-20 08:32 AM] aperture_tech#5247
We should not be in a place where this is a debate


[14-Aug-20 08:33 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But it goes both ways. The husband of some bitch who gets herself into a fit trying to ruin some stranger's day shouldn't be fired from his job.


[14-Aug-20 08:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it's perfectly fair to criticize politicians and the people who put them into power.

Those criticisms should be based on their actions and positions, not on their social class or based on stereotypes (I am against "redneck"-shaming, southerner that I am), but criticism is valid nonetheless.


[14-Aug-20 08:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
A guy who said a bad word on Twitter in hislgh school shouldn't be strung up and doxed on twitter


[14-Aug-20 08:34 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The internet has been dehumanizing us, bit by bit. It gets easy to forget there is a person on the other side of the screen. Also doxing is not a crime, if it comes from publicly accessible information,


[14-Aug-20 08:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If someone says something publicly, they can be criticized publicly. That is the nature of free speech, is it not?

Doxxing is a crime. Don't do it. But public disapproval is valid and fair.


[14-Aug-20 08:35 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He, after all, publicly disapproved of an entire race.


[14-Aug-20 08:36 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Reposting publicly-accessible information is not what I'd call doxxing. I mean, if it's a business owner I think his customers deserve to know what he said. That's totally fair.


[14-Aug-20 08:36 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But that's the issue. Everything has become public. Nothing stays just for yourself, and it turns out that it's easy to find something to shame someone about


[14-Aug-20 08:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Well, if you post someone's address and some bad shit they said a long time ago that required a lot of digging is fucked up, and it is doxing if you try and spread their info to more people


[14-Aug-20 08:38 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Funny, I've never once been worried about that.

I'm not paranoid about being branded a bigot because I know I'm not one. I don't say hateful things.


[14-Aug-20 08:38 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And even the media participates in dirty tactics like that now


[14-Aug-20 08:38 AM] byte[]#2610
this is the "I have nothing to hide" argument


[14-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's invalid when it comes to illegal searches and seizures, yes. 

When it comes to public scrutiny over my *public* content, I think the "I have nothing to hide" retort is totally fair.


[14-Aug-20 08:39 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The internet should stay the internet, a separate entity from actual real life


[14-Aug-20 08:39 AM] byte[]#2610
the things I have said publicly in the past are not enough to brand me as the particular socially unacceptable bigot of the ire of today's twitter, but I still would prefer people _not_ look at those things, because it makes me feel as if I should restrain myself from acting in a way I am comfortable for in the event something will happen in the future


[14-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It is a part of real life. It exists. It's real. It always has been.


[14-Aug-20 08:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
No it hasn't


[14-Aug-20 08:40 AM] byte[]#2610
you truly are ignorant if you think the internet and IRL are separate


[14-Aug-20 08:40 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You can't show me receipts from a conversation I had in person back when I was an edgy teen


[14-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It is a tool to communicate. It clearly affects every facet of the world around us.


[14-Aug-20 08:41 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It is a tool to communicate but this shit shouldn't be used to smear people


[14-Aug-20 08:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm against dregging up old things that may no longer represent someone.


[14-Aug-20 08:41 AM] byte[]#2610
time for me to mute this channel before I get angry


[14-Aug-20 08:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's fair to criticize them for something they *just* said though.


[14-Aug-20 08:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It is, and I don't disagree with that


[14-Aug-20 08:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If they have the freedom to call black people the n-word I have the freedom to call them a small-minded moron.


[14-Aug-20 08:42 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But time and again there are people who draw conclusions based on what they say


[14-Aug-20 08:43 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Is that not reasonable? Your words are an expression of your thoughts. We appraise each other based on what we say and do.


[14-Aug-20 08:43 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I meant in the past. Even then, people's words are intentionally taken out of context


[14-Aug-20 08:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just said that I don't think statements long in the past should be dragged up. I'm talking about criticism for recent statements.


[14-Aug-20 08:44 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Like James Gunn, a dude who made jokes about diddling kids - a whole lot. But so have I.


[14-Aug-20 08:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Also I don't think the solution to people who said fucked up shit is to go for their jobs and also spread their name all over the internet


[14-Aug-20 08:45 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You say it in public, that's the risk you take. It's not like your employers and customers *don't* see you anyway.


[14-Aug-20 08:45 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Felons have a better chance at getting a job than those who committed wrong think, because felons have actual legal protections


[14-Aug-20 08:46 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Calling someone a slur isn't wrongthink, it's being an abusive asshole, which people tend not to like.


[14-Aug-20 08:46 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I said a lot of shit "in public" when I was a stupid teen who did dumb shit because I couldn't understand some of these concepts


[14-Aug-20 08:47 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes and as we've established that was then. You've grown up presumably and those things shouldn't follow you today. We agree there.


[14-Aug-20 08:47 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Maybe sometimes people just are having a shit day and go for a low blow, because they know hitting below the belt is the best way to get under somebody's skin?


[14-Aug-20 08:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
We've all lost control of our tempers


[14-Aug-20 08:48 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
So, what? Should we just let them? Not retaliate at all?


[14-Aug-20 08:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Maybe we should actually go after people who are actual racists?


[14-Aug-20 08:48 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Not some high schooler who wore a red hat before he could even legally vote


[14-Aug-20 08:49 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Racism isn't a thing you are. It's a thing you do.

We should discourage and denormalize acts of racism when we see them. To not speak against it encourages them to keep doing it.


[14-Aug-20 08:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's an action, and like all actions you can stop doing it. It's not an inherent quality of someone's character.


[14-Aug-20 08:50 AM] aperture_tech#5247
So who is the guy who defines racism? Is drawing a pony with a swastika cutie mark make a racist?


[14-Aug-20 08:50 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Not inherently. Sometimes it is.


[14-Aug-20 08:51 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And who makes that distinction?


[14-Aug-20 08:51 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We do. All of us. Obviously no judgment will ever have 100% agreement from the population, so why call anyone *anything?*


[14-Aug-20 08:52 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But consensus can still be made. If someone's openly parroting white nationalist talking points and going on about how so-and-so race is inferior then I think it's safe to call that some hot fresh racism.


[14-Aug-20 08:52 AM] aperture_tech#5247
For me, when I hear things I dislike, I either ignore it or try to get a better grasp of what somebody is saying. It's a destructive process to automatically assume the intention was bad. From my experience, most people don't do shit because they are bad or they necessarily even want to do a bad thing


[14-Aug-20 08:53 AM] aperture_tech#5247
But making a consensus and judging people ex post facto? That's wrong


[14-Aug-20 08:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Is it *wrong* to judge people for their race/gender/sexuality then?


[14-Aug-20 08:54 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You seem more concerned with people disapproving of that than that itself.


[14-Aug-20 08:54 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah it's wrong, but it isn't worth it to get pissed because some angry asshole did that


[14-Aug-20 08:55 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...And it *is* worth getting pissed at people public disapproving of it? I mean, you're clearly very passionate about this, which is fine, but I feel like you care way more about people not speaking up to bigotry than bigotry itself.


[14-Aug-20 08:56 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Because the days when that shit happened sucked, but this is kinda a pendulum. I understand that there are a lot of people pissed about how they were treated when an intolerant group was in charge - but that's not an excuse to pay that back in return


[14-Aug-20 08:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Calling someone the n-word? Ehhh. Calling someone *wrong* for calling someone the n-word? *Cancel culture!*


[14-Aug-20 08:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That isn't cancel culture


[14-Aug-20 08:57 AM] aperture_tech#5247
What is wrong is gathering up pitchforks and torches to run out the evil guy who said a fucking word


[14-Aug-20 08:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Because at the end of the day, these slurs are just that, and they only have negative power if you give it to them


[14-Aug-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
People posting and memeing about it is just public discourse.

If you can express contempt for an entire race, then people can express contempt for *you.*


[14-Aug-20 08:58 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And I'm not talking about the people memeing about it


[14-Aug-20 08:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Don't dish out what you can't take, as they say.


[14-Aug-20 08:59 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I'm talking about how often the instant reaction to anything like this is to go for the jugular - make an online movement and absolutely skewer them


[14-Aug-20 09:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly, I'm glad people with racist views are afraid to express themselves. *Good.* Denormalize it. Let them keep silent and, bit by bit, the last vestiges of their horrible ideology will die with them. They have legal freedom of speech but not freedom from public consequences.


[14-Aug-20 09:00 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Not even kiwi farms goes for that kind of stuff


[14-Aug-20 09:01 AM] aperture_tech#5247
If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd probably be pretty upset


[14-Aug-20 09:02 AM] aperture_tech#5247
The ideology was dying but now there is a resurgence because they've rallied around oppression


[14-Aug-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You have the right to be upset. That is fine.

I express a viewpoint that I know not everyone will approve of and I accept that.


[14-Aug-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The "resurgence" isn't all it's cracked up to be


[14-Aug-20 09:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/ Gen Z's even more social justicey than us millennials are.

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[14-Aug-20 09:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because I think people are fundamentally good and most of us undertand that bigotry is wrong. Becoming bigots to spite the SJWs is stupid, ergo most don't do it.


[14-Aug-20 09:04 AM] aperture_tech#5247
That's totally cool. But for me, I saw my school ban the golden compass then Harry Potter, and they tried to tell me what was wrong and what was right - they told me a lot of things that were alright we're indeed wrong. They never even let me attempt to confront any of those viewpoints, because that would have shown me the truth


[14-Aug-20 09:05 AM] aperture_tech#5247
I think people are also fundamentally good but the fact someone is acting like an asshole to get people mad online doesn't make them a Nazi or a bigot


[14-Aug-20 09:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I can say that as an aggregate your generation is far more tolerant than mine.

I could never have been openly not-straight in high school. Now I see people who are openly gay and bi and trans and it's not a big deal. In goddamn red-state Louisiana. The Zoomers are killin' it with the tolerance game right now.


[14-Aug-20 09:08 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Yeah, and that's great. I just wish tolerance could also extend to ideals as well. Saying that may bring you to bring up Popper's paradox of tonllerance, but holy shit, that's a dangerous philosophy. The fundies thought on those same exact principles because to them they were not tolerating the things they thought of as intolerant


[14-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do all ideologies deserve respect?


[14-Aug-20 09:09 AM] aperture_tech#5247
They at least deserve to be heard, and I don't think hearing something is giving it respect


[14-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think they do.

I think we can love people despite holding a bad ideology in some cases, but I do not believe all ideologies are equally valid or deserving of our consideration.


[14-Aug-20 09:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Of course not, but they still should be heard


[14-Aug-20 09:10 AM] aperture_tech#5247
You can still learn something from even the worst idea


[14-Aug-20 09:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Do I not hear them? I'm here. I'm not demanding your silence, I'm merely arguing with your points.


[14-Aug-20 09:12 AM] aperture_tech#5247
It's why I'm still talking to you, and I hold respect for you and your opinions because of that. Sometimes, it feels nice to know people are at least listening, and I'd rather have people disagree because it means they are listening


[14-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Now, at the same time, I don't think the world owes me an audience. Not everyone wants to listen to me and they shouldn't have to. People have a right to not engage.


[14-Aug-20 09:13 AM] aperture_tech#5247
For me, I believe you catch more flies with honey. Not always though, some people are just straight up fucking whack jobs and that's beyond the scope of this


[14-Aug-20 09:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
And the world doesn't owe you an audience, but it would be a lonely place if we stopped listening to each other when we hear something we disagree with


[14-Aug-20 09:14 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Either that or really circlejerky


[14-Aug-20 09:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Here's the thing. There's a context for these things. A political debate channel is going to be a far more receptive place to lots of different ideas than, say... well, pretty much any other context actually.

I don't think it's circlejerky for people to not want to have to debate the fundamental value of our fellow human beings. Listening to your drunk uncle on Thanksgiving prattle on about how he doesn't agree with interracial marriage is not something you should have to engage with. Sometimes people are just wrong and so stuck in their ways that an argument is fruitless, and you know them well enough to make that call.


[14-Aug-20 09:22 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Honestly? It's not necessarily about who you engage with. Hearing something like that would solidify my opposition. It would give me things to think about in the argument against those very things because even a drunk can make arguments you had no response for previously. You don't even need to engage verbally, you can let them marinate in your head. I do that a lot. I see a lot of stupid shit on Twitter I absolutely revile. I am often tempted to make a response, but I don't. That's not the place to get into an argument with a stranger. Instead I store it in my head and I think about it


[14-Aug-20 09:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's not that I don't have responses or good arguments. It's that some things and some people just aren't worth arguing over. It's definitely a case-by-case thing.


[14-Aug-20 09:25 AM] aperture_tech#5247
Absolutely, and that's part of it all. Thanks for talking with me tonight. I should probably get to bed now


[14-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like elevating some positions to the same table as legitimate arguments is needlessly aggrandizing those positions. And alright.


[14-Aug-20 11:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53774289

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[14-Aug-20 11:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Huge shock etc.


[14-Aug-20 11:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.vladtv.com/article/264613/usps-shutting-down-sorting-machines-crucial-for-processing-election-ballots
https://www.newsweek.com/these-states-invalidate-mail-ballots-after-election-day-1522060

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President Donald Trump has railed against mail-in voting for the 2020 election. While voting by mail is largely safe, some states won't accept ballots beyond Nov. 3. Here's how to make sure your vote counts.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1617140/mail-balloting-coronavirus-2020.jpg


[14-Aug-20 11:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
tl;dr Trump is ensuring mail will be slow as shit, and in many states ballots received after Nov 3 will be invalid regardless of when they were sent


[14-Aug-20 11:56 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
> https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/ Gen Z's even more social justicey than us millennials are.
@Dr. Mechano 

"But but but gen z would be the most conservative genreation ever!!!"

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As Gen Z moves toward adulthood, their views mirror those of Millennials on a range of issues, from Trump’s presidency to the role of government to racial equality. Among Republicans, Gen Z stands out on some key issues.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/ST_18.12.13_PostMillennials_promo_1280x720.jpg


[14-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And don't forget the guy that Trump appointed to run the USPS (into the ground) owns millions in UPS and other delivery services which have seen massive stock boosts, totally no conflict of interest there!


[14-Aug-20 12:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/11/companies-are-talking-about-turning-furloughs-into-permanent-layoffs.html

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Companies are talking about turning 'furloughs' into permanent layoffs
These permanent cost cutting initiatives are only going to widen the disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street
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[14-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Stocks are booming as companies quietly "let go" the employees they furloughed months ago


[14-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[14-Aug-20 12:42 PM] wren#0114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rTuPEdlhQs

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This is a clip directly taken from my 1990 television series, making sense of the 60s. The series was designed to help children of baby boomers understand their parents. I did not realize until I began to post clips from the series how hostile some were to baby boomers – willi...
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[14-Aug-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/511702-gop-lawmaker-says-theres-no-place-in-congress-for-qanon-after-supporters

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Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.) became the first Republican in Congress on Wednesday to condemn Marjorie Taylor Greene's support of the QAnon conspiracy theory after Greene won her Republican House primary in a deep-red Georgia district.
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[14-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
```The idea that if we start to ignore borders to separate us, maybe that leads to hating the market system for the inequality it has caused.```
I think the idea is very simple. The people taking the test aren't capitalists, they're workers.


[14-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
if you start ignoring borders and the potential workforce for the limited number of jobs rises dramatically, they're even more out of luck than now.


[14-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
and while you _can_ and _did_ argue that unless people want those juicy sub-min pay no benefits illegal migrant tier farm work, it doesn't touch them, that's not how people see it.


[14-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
that's why you get pro-market anti-immi folks.


[14-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
and as for the opposite, well, it's very easy to hate people like that for things valid and not. Just picture the stereotypical 'read Ayn Rand' folks.


[14-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
it's one of the easiest images to rally a crowd against.


[14-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Opponent#3498
plus it's the obvious second choice, reject markets that would definitely fail with mass immigration.


[14-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Crow#5457
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[14-Aug-20 01:58 PM] illumnious#7938
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-12/trump-to-relax-rules-for-showers-after-complaining-about-flow-kdrlkqzh

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The U.S. Energy Department proposed easing water efficiency requirements for shower heads Wednesday following multiple complaints from President Donald Trump about how low water flow is impeding his ability to properly wash his hair.
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[14-Aug-20 02:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```Gen Z's even more social justicey than us millennials are.```


[14-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
so witch hunts and thoughtpolice/thoughtcrime becomes the norm further in the future. **_Yikes._**


[14-Aug-20 02:03 PM] Opponent#3498
well, at least _you_ support that so, future's looking bright.


[14-Aug-20 02:05 PM] Opponent#3498
this will simply be the death of unified infospace, shattering it completely into a homogenous blob and numerous echo chambers, members of which would likely kill each other if they ever recognise each other in meatspace.


[14-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Q anon, transposed on the entire fucking western infospace.


[14-Aug-20 02:14 PM] Opponent#3498
reading all this, people being happy about it, and knowing what's coming... Shit, ignorance is bliss...


[14-Aug-20 02:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[14-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I live on this fucking planet though. And the options for the future look like thoughtpolice via US, thoughtpolice via China, and criminal negligence via Russia.


[14-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just move to canada or new zeland


[14-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if u got skills these countries would take u in


[14-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the point nor the problem though


[14-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
those three entities project global influence, and eventually one of them will be on top (and it won't be Russia, unless something disasterous happens)


[14-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Opponent#3498
so _this_ will be your world anywhere you happen to exist


[14-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
doubt thats gonna happen


[14-Aug-20 02:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Canada’s and NZ’s inconspicuously calm and liveable situation can’t last forever iinm


[14-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
worst case scenario-nuclear war world vs china but that prob not gonna happen


[14-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
2020s still got a few months left


[14-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
good point.


[14-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't just say "terrible thing probably won't happen"


[14-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
why not


[14-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not wise to fight against someone with nukes cause both sides would be annihilated


[14-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so we probably would never use them ~~again~~


[14-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Synfag#9241
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[14-Aug-20 02:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you underestimate our president's desire to launch a nuke


[14-Aug-20 03:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/14a2ceda724623604cc8d8e5ab9890ed quiet part outloud again

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[14-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Dude Trump is a businessman and he knows that nuclear war is bad for any business

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[14-Aug-20 03:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s a piss poor business man who got as far as he did because russia lent him money. he was almost out on his ass at one point


[14-Aug-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he bankrupted 3 casinoes


[14-Aug-20 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he bankrupted the business equivalent of money printers


[14-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how dafuk u can bankrupt a casino


[14-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Marches[45]#0674
Ask Trump. He did it 3 times


[14-Aug-20 03:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/13/herman-cain-twitter-democrats-joe-biden

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Herman Cain 'tweets' two weeks after his death to attack Democrats
Twitter account belonging to Cain, who died in July from coronavirus aged 74, revived to spread pro-Trump messages
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[14-Aug-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it werent for slapp suits, he;d have probably been financially crushed by lawsuits decades ago


[14-Aug-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently the ones in charge of the account changed it to “The Cain Gang”, which... uhh...


[14-Aug-20 03:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yikes


[14-Aug-20 03:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He also asked if he could nuke a hurricane


[14-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie Canada and NZ have draconian immigration policies, even if you have required skills. Chances are quite slim.


[14-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its easier to get in here than in US tho


[14-Aug-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie here's a question. To you and others. We had a discussion here about signature verification, how it's subjective and so on. Is there a better alternative for it? Or, if there a way to make it redundant and verify the legitimacy of the mail-in ballots? Considering things as they currently are, or were perhaps a couple months ago when the talks about removing verification began.


[14-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk maybe a photo with passport?


[14-Aug-20 04:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean if one single person can only vote once, if they get more than one vote from you could they not call you?


[14-Aug-20 04:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
You can't exactly have more votes than people unless you're doing good ol identity theft of recently dead people maybe?


[14-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Digital vote history record in passport?


[14-Aug-20 04:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
Call you, demand you show up and verify your identity, idk, confirm which is the real vote


[14-Aug-20 04:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
You could anonomize the vote with a generated number


[14-Aug-20 04:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
For passports, to keep privacy, associate each vote with a unique number followed by an identifier for the election


[14-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Hash unique passport number and vote date


[14-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Anonymous hash + salt.


[14-Aug-20 04:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
To be fair I don't even have a passport who the fuck can afford to travel?


[14-Aug-20 04:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
Let alone rn travelling being insanely stupid


[14-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What are you guys using for identity documents in US?


[14-Aug-20 04:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i use my state addressed ID card


[14-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In Russia it is internal passport and travel passport.
In South Africa it is identity book and travel passport.


[14-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Also drivers license work, because it has ID number on it and photo.


[14-Aug-20 04:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
In Australia I just have a state ID


[14-Aug-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
travel passports here cost $110, or $140 if you want it with passport card


[14-Aug-20 04:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
Medicare card, healthcare card, they work as ID


[14-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slammed-for-not-rejecting-conspiracy-theory-kamala-harris-is-ineligible-for-vice-presidency

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Trump slammed for not rejecting conspiracy theory Kamala Harris is ...
President Trump would not reject a conspiracy theory Thursday that Kamala Harris is ineligible to serve as vice president because her parents were born outside the United States.
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[14-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/13/trump-requests-mail-ballot-florida-primary-despite-rhetoric/3371605001/

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President Trump requests mail-in ballot for upcoming Florida primar...
President Trump and Melania Trump requested vote-by-mail ballots for Florida's primary, according to the Palm Beach County elections website.
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[14-Aug-20 04:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
Wait, did he say anything about Harris?


[14-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Sort of; one of his campaign heads pushed an article from a crank claiming Harris was ineligible; a reporter asked Trump about the situation in general and he pretty much repeated it and claimed the crank was very respectable and knew what he was talking about


[14-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically, the thing he does for most of these things


[14-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I heard about it, dunno if it's true, but people that are very knowledgable about this say it is, it should be looked into"


[14-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Moon Flower#6088
All this Trump and USA in here, anyone even interested in Belarus?


[14-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Moon Flower#6088
That's some real trouble for thousands of people of the population, who don't even burn down everything nor loot random stores.


[14-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As far I know from fellow discord users on another server, it becomes very active outdoors after 18:00.


[14-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>unmutes politics channel to check about Belarus
>still only the old Trump and USA stuff since he got elected

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[14-Aug-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you have news about belarus, then go ahead, I can;t really bring up what i don;t know


[14-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yup


[14-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1293922674222288898
https://www.watson.ch/international/gesellschaft%20&%20politik/514476361-diese-12-bilder-und-videos-zeugen-von-der-gewalt-in-belarus

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#Belarus: video of 🇪🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇭🇯🇵 envoys laying down flowers at the #Minsk intersection where a protester was killed by riot police https://t.co/TMNjJhiQiU
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Diese 12 Bilder und Videos zeugen von der Gewalt gegenüber der bela...
In der Nacht auf Freitag haben die Behörden in Belarus viele der rund 7000 festgenommenen Belarussen wieder auf freien Fuss gesetzt. Die Freigelassenen berichten von Gräueltaten und bezeichnen die Gefängnisse als «Hölle».
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[14-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I've posted few videos about Belarus but everyone except opponent just ignored it


[14-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
First link shows a video of international diplomats (EU, Japan, etc.) showing sentiments, putting flowers at a spot where a peaceful protestor got killed by police.

Second link is Swiss and contains all the English bits next to German translations. It shows several tweets, videos, pictures about police brutality, conditions in prisons, etc.


[14-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I can bring up South African news, but you know, ignorance is bliss. It is too stressing.


[14-Aug-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/511872-fbi-joining-deadly-beirut-blast-investigation

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FBI joining deadly Beirut blast investigation, State Dept. official...
The FBI is assisting Lebanese authorities in investigating the Beirut explosion that killed more than 170 people last week, a U.S. State Department official said Thursday.
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[14-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Note that the second link even has a video with the Belarus minister of inner affairs in front of people and protestors not even jumping at his throat.


[14-Aug-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53773534

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'Widespread torture' against Belarus protesters
The main opposition figure calls for mass rallies as freed detainees speak of beatings in custody.
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[14-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> The protests appear to be intensifying. They have spread to some smaller cities and villages. Medical workers have joined the protests. Some of the law enforcement and military have expressed their solidarity with the protesters. A large number of Belarusian IT business owners made a joint statement condemning Lukashenko's actions. Some big industries like Azoty Grodno have ceased operation as workers went on strike against the dictator.
^idn't check validity but I doubt it being fake.

Lukashenko's popularity was said to be under 10%, yet he won the elections.

The other candidate was a woman who fled the country with her children to Lithuania, iirc, allegedly being threatened by police or secret service. She was already a substitute for her husband who got incarcerated before the elections.


[14-Aug-20 05:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Fascinating.


[14-Aug-20 05:25 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I'll post the single links from that German/English article now for the lazy people.


[14-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Moon Flower#6088
**WARNING, CONTAINS DEPICTIONS OF INJURIES** 

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1294080003659960320

Side note, it is said that quite some women who got released from prison are in such shock that they either just cry or don't talk at all. But this one can.
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1294021487972810752

https://twitter.com/BFreeTheatre/status/1294049978541907968

https://twitter.com/maximeristavi/status/1293851398195552257

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This guy claims that he was helping paramedics to load the wounded man to the ambulance when the riot police attacked him from the back and hit him with something heavy https://t.co/eijfvDlu6t
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A woman who just spent a night in jail describes having her pants pulled down, being beaten by ten cops, threatened with gang rape and forced to stand in a stress position with her face to the wall #Belarus https://t.co/N2YBbWHK8N
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#URGENT A woman just released from Okrestina, who was a detained doctor helping protestors talks of 50 people in one jail cell (~6-8m2) no access to food or water for the first 15 hours and a whole day of standing outside. She reports of some women being tortured. #Belarus ht...
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https://twitter.com/maximeristavi/status/1293851398195552257
You can hear screams of the detained in the Akrestina torture house in Minsk, filmed by @euroradio. Residents of the surrounding buildings say those continue through the night. Thousands remain in cells like these across Belarus. This is some Hague Tribunal shit.
#FreeBelarus...
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[14-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Moon Flower#6088
**WARNING, CONTAINS DEPICTIONS OF INJURIES** 

https://twitter.com/BFreeTheatre/status/1293968933222060032

https://twitter.com/BFreeTheatre/status/1294036748767502343

https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1293971649570758657

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As reports of rape, concussions and severe fractures come out of #Belarus prisons we urge you to contact you MPs and representatives, your senators and presidents and tag them to apply tougher measures and stop human rights abuses in #Belarus @BorisJohnson @POTUS @EUCouncil
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A woman didn’t know whereabouts of her son for more than 48hr, as a disabled man he is need of constant levothyroxine which a man who was in his cell denies he has access to. ❗️In #Belarus disabled people and people with health issues are denied medication in jails. Please sh...
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https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1293971649570758657
Eerie atmosphere today at one of Minsk detention centers where hundreds have gathered to find any bit of information about their loved ones detained during protests. Some of them have been missing for days. https://t.co/OjdDmYeZsL
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[14-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1294019419665059848

https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1294046778870894593

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NEXTA (@nexta_tv)
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Gunshot and shrapnel wounds, burns and severed limbs. That's how the police treated the PEACEFUL (!) protesters in #Belarus. We are launching a campaign to collect information about the crimes against humanity committed by Lukashenko and put him before the international court...
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Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs Barsukov came to the Detention Center and promised to release detainees from Minsk and Žodzina until 6 am. He also said that nobody was beaten nor tortured. https://t.co/F9kEFAmsEu
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[14-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I dunno why the second collection doesn't get embeds.
Ah, it doesn't like the first link.


[14-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Reading that list in the NEXTA excel screenshot. Holy shit. BLM has nothing on it. Bullet wounds, a lot of shrapnel wounds.


[14-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Moon Flower#6088
BLM is basically one dead guy and protestors going kinda ape shit too.


[14-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Belarus is someone wanting to be a dictator and going fully against the population on the brink to make other countries mad at him.


[14-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am talking about wounded comparison.


[14-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Oh, yeah, many.


[14-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Moon Flower#6088
And add another 300 confirmed coronavirus cases today only.


[14-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Belarus is a dictatorship. It always has been and was not noticed much.


[14-Aug-20 05:42 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Imagine being in a prison cell 6-8m² 46 people, 15 hours no food, no access to medication at all. Plus enduring degradation, brutality, maybe rape, maybe death.


[14-Aug-20 05:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And people think BLM was inhumane.


[14-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not only that, there are enough protestors in the BLM stuff who are aggressive, destructive and opportunistic. To me that's like, yeah, I don't want to support any of the two sides.


[14-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Belarus is, as you said, a dictatorship and people get punished for protesting peacefully by whoever in police and military side for the "president".


[14-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Those who don't ripped off their badges.


[14-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm a BLM protester. So far my routine's been pretty peaceful.


[14-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Dr. Mechano Most are peaceful, no question, but those who don't are enough in numbers to damage everything, including the reputation of protestors.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And this is not only raises red flags. A couple years ago, Belarus implemented a law prohibiting people to leave rural towns without permit. That's serfdom.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think the problem there is, like

What do you *do* other than obviously denounce that? Which I do, by the way. There's no way to convince someone who wants to discredit the entire movement that these people don't represent our cause.


[14-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I wonder when the population of Belarus hits the point they really had enough. It will be like Libya a few years ago.


[14-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How is this widely covered?


[14-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Moon Flower#6088
What do you mean?


[14-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Allegedly the protests spread to smaller cities and villages.


[14-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I mean international news coverage, but I see that on SA news now.


[14-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I don't know how news coverage is in the USA. I'm not from there. But I get often the feeling from normal US people on the internet not knowing much beyond their borders. Maybe Mexico and Canada. In their defence, there are big pools in-between.


[14-Aug-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have so much shit going on here i;m not sure our news stations and sites have much time to cover news from other countries


[14-Aug-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the sites can do more and have mroe freedom of movement at least


[14-Aug-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have something controversial going on atleast once a fucking hour


[14-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Эᴚ|∫ at my place it is covered by news, but I'm not muc into TV, newspaper or news in general, I got pointed at this by my Polish friend. Then I wanted to check out the channel here, but as usual, USA and Trump stuff.

It is apparently covered quite much here. The foreign minister says "What happens in Belarus is state terrorism."


[14-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@prism stryder(intexda) Well, to USA it is already controversial to name blacklist and whitelist as blacklist and whitelist, even though it has noting to do with race/skin colour.


[14-Aug-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also election season, so half our news programs are mroe focused on that


[14-Aug-20 05:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and our postal system is dying, so we have that going on


[14-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Moon Flower#6088
USA news often makes mountains out of molehills, I have the impression. Correct me if I'm wrong.


[14-Aug-20 06:00 PM] >That Guy#3386
Woohoo!
https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status/1294293000865161217?s=09

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[14-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
TV news in SA are still focused on Covid and arising issues from that.


[14-Aug-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no idea which news covered the whitelist, black list thing. I think that was mroe one state trying to appease protestors by doing stupid meaingless shit


[14-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://www.techspot.com/news/85631-github-replace-terms-whitelist-blacklist-masterslave-racially-insensitive.html

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Github says it will replace the terms whitelist, blacklist, and mas...
Github CEO Nat Friedman said the firm was working to replace the terms ‘master’ and ‘slave’ with the likes of ‘main/default/primary’ and ‘secondary.’ Users will also find ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’ dropped for ‘allow list’ and ‘deny/exclude list,’ writes ZDNet.…
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[14-Aug-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is really dumb


[14-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Moon Flower#6088
:wat:


[14-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Yes, it is dumb.


[14-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait, wasn't it done before?


[14-Aug-20 06:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes this is the same incident


[14-Aug-20 06:04 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Master and slave is outdated in tech now right?
When sata came in I thought Master and slave drives were a thing of the past?


[14-Aug-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though when i say controversial i mean our post offices are dying, Trump is passing an executive order that does soemthing dangerous, and the virus is killing thousands more people


[14-Aug-20 06:04 PM] Moon Flower#6088
It just shows me: Look, stranger, US people are too dumb to even know what blacklist and whitelist refers to. Like a switch, if it is off, it is dark, black, if it is on, it is light, white.

Racism 0, skin colour connection 0.


[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Post offices are dying down everywhere. Parcels are the big thing nowadays.


[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Performative gestures like this don't really help anyone. We want policy changes, not changes to wording that has nothing to do with race.


[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Darklist, lightlist. :notbestpony:

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[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah this is stupid panderign trying to be like "These colors are totally connected to the races by default! If we change it, it totally shows support to this movement we arent actually interested in"


[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeslist and nolist


[14-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
inb4 Disney removes light andd dark sides in Star Wars for them being racial slurs.


[14-Aug-20 06:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah well post offices dying in america means millions of people lose access to shit


[14-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Make it red vs blue. That would be fun.


[14-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Moon Flower#6088
You could link a (preferable) serious source/link.@prism stryder(intexda)


[14-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Nintendo vs. Sega colors


[14-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I posted a dozen links about Belarus, which are again washed away by USA stuff.


[14-Aug-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/4/16/21219067/us-postal-service-shutting-down-rural-america-native-communities

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If the US Postal Service fails, rural America will suffer the most
The USPS is "a lifeline" for many remote and Native communities.
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[14-Aug-20 06:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.courier-tribune.com/story/news/local/2020/04/23/postal-service-collapse-could-devastate-seniors-small-businesses-rural-areas/112321304/

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Postal Service collapse could devastate seniors, small businesses, ...
If Jack Bainbridge couldn’t get his prescriptions through the mail, the 70-year-old Army veteran would have to...
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[14-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Moon Flower post periodically.


[14-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump doesn't and never has given a single shit about rural America. He doesn't have to. He's convinced he'll get their vote regardless of how much he fucks over the rural, the elderly, veterans, etc. because he keeps calling himself a friend to those groups.


[14-Aug-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also a lot of shit parcel corporations dump on the postal service to deliver instead of throwign thme to the dump, because those things arent profitable to deliver


[14-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Эᴚ|∫ I plan to mute this channel again though, because I'm full of the USA stuff, which even seeps to other channels.


[14-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/belarus-releases-protesters-eu-discussion-sanctions-200814080637874.html

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Belarus releases protesters before EU discussion on sanctions
European Union foreign ministers are due to discuss possible new sanctions on the Belarusian leadership.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/8/14/b20b28a17890452e9ac347fcb848d786_18.jpg


[14-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Just look, the dictator does what he wants while having an eye on appeasing diplomats and other countries.


[14-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You need direct action, not sanctions, dammit.


[14-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Here for more. https://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/belarus.html

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Belarus


[14-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Sanctions add more hardship to population, rather than affecting govt.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I just read that he even when elections "by a landslide", even though his popularity dropped below 10% prior to the elections.


[14-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Hmmmm :rarityhmm:


[14-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqvMPOuF6ws

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqvMPOuF6ws
Belarus long time leader claims a landslide victory | Inside Story
His critics describe him as Europe's last dictator. Alexander Lukashenko, who has already been President of Belarus for 26 years, is set to rule for a sixth term.
Official results from Sunday's election say he won by a landslide. But the opposition says the election was rigged...
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[14-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Moon Flower#6088
^ tl;dr Belarus elections and nationwide riots


[14-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Star Wars and Red Vs. Blue get a crossover after Disney removes the Light and dark side.


[14-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just imagine it


[14-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tex Vs. Rey


[14-Aug-20 06:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it sort of sounds like he preformed a certain ropish action with which to deploy a ship's sail within this election


[14-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Sir Frosty that would be awesome to see ngl


[14-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Эᴚ|∫ Just leaving one more thing because you seemed interested, after the elections internet services shut down almost everywhere. Certainly not coincidence.


[14-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Moon Flower the same happened with Arab spring


[14-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
What


[14-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Arab spring. The protests in several Northern African countries, specifically Libya which was ruled by Gadaffi. iirc


[14-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Phelan#7647
> https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status/1294293000865161217?s=09
FREEDOM WEEK

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[14-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Phelan repost
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/743861545800433778


[14-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Phelan#7647
I know, I was quoting it


[14-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Oh, right, my bad.


[14-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Phelan#7647
Freedom week is whenever a 9th circuit court justice overturns a gun law (usually in California) so people can import the previously banned items for about a week until an en banc ruling is called.


[14-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
En Blakk


[14-Aug-20 07:03 PM] Moon Flower#6088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSZkHbw64A

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Belarus releases protesters before EU discussion on sanctions
The Belarusian government has begun releasing people who were arrested during protests this week. 
It issued a rare public apology in what appeared to be an attempt to stop days of unrest. 
Nearly 7,000 people were rounded up during demonstrations against Sunday's disputed pre...
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[14-Aug-20 07:20 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Opponent only thing I can think of is private key stuff. The problem with signatures is the same as the problem with SSNs, they're a shared secret you and the gov't *and anyone who you've ever done any business with* knows.


[14-Aug-20 07:21 PM] Nebbie#8545
With the added problem that the gov't can arbitrarily decide that it's a forgery.


[14-Aug-20 08:28 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) rural tend to vote republican & are trying to vote for things that make it harder for them to vote?


[14-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
and also exist.


[14-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
but uh, yeah, I suggest you people take a break from the circus (it's not going anywhere any time soon) and focus on Belarus for now. That one's somewhat time-sensitive.


[14-Aug-20 08:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is likely trying to cripple large cities with this but it;s more of a blanket assault


[14-Aug-20 08:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;t s abit hard to take a break from the circus when it;s effecting me in real time


[14-Aug-20 08:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53780685

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Exiled leader calls weekend of protests in Belarus
Svetlana Tikhanovskaya tells people not to "stay on the sidelines", six days after a disputed vote.
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[14-Aug-20 08:46 PM] jlun2#8758
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/14/women-belarus-take-protests-into-their-own-hands
is he some super conservative anti women white dude? only heard of this now

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'We can only help ourselves': women in Belarus take protests into t...
After police beat up demonstrators, flower-waving women take to streets demanding change
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[14-Aug-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he;s a continuous dictator who rigged his recent election so he would win despite only getting 10% of the vote, and then followed it up by restricting the country's internet access while sending the police and military to deal with critics and protestors violently


[14-Aug-20 08:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53776463

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Belarus 'uniform shame' becomes viral protest
A new social media trend takes off in Belarus: men destroying their military or police uniforms.
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[14-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've about had it with people exploiting Cannon Hinnant's murder to undermine the BLM protests.

What happened to Cannon Hinnant is an indefensible tragedy. There's also *nothing to protest about it.* His murderer was arrested and will be deservedly punished. We protest police brutality because, very often, the officers involved are not even charged, much less convicted. It is a systemic problem that must be changed.

Using the senseless death of an innocent child to undermine the peoples' call for police reform is intellectually dishonest and - frankly - an insult to that child's memory.


[14-Aug-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is trashy bullshit


[14-Aug-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
using the child i mean, not your statement against them


[14-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I hate it. It's so fucking dumb.

It's just like "wHY DoN't YoU pRoTeSt BlAcK oN bLaCk CrImE?" 

because those crimes result in arrests and convictions, *what is there to protest*


[14-Aug-20 09:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s quite simple, normal murdery citizens are not immune liek police are to the murders they commit


[14-Aug-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why people dont end up protesting normal murderers


[14-Aug-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless something extraordinary happens with them such as being pardoned by the president


[14-Aug-20 09:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like these people fundamentally misunderstand what protests are for. Protests are not some symbolic finger-wag of disapproval. They're demanding *change* to policy.

Going out and "protesting" a serial killer will do jack shit. Protesting the police - a tax-funded government institution - *can* and *does* have results.


[14-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12389519/students-urinate-bottles-maintain-eye-contact-exams/

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Law students forced to urinate in bottles and buckets during remote...
LAW students were forced to urinate in bottles and buckets in front of their laptops while taking their online exams. The aspiring barristers said they were told they could fail their two-hour and …
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[14-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a full litre


[14-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude go more often


[14-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
Requiring people to maintain eye contact with a computer continuously for nearly three hours or it's an instant fail is a dystopian nightmare I certainly didn't expect when everything became remote.


[14-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
NASA wouldn't ask this of astronauts. It would be seen as too ridiculous.


[14-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they at least provide people with diapers.


[14-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And we all thought eye tracking software would be used just for games, ha ha


[14-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The "best" part is that when they did this in the US, there were reports of female examinees getting FB friend requests by male proctors later

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[14-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Just make the damn test open book if you insist on having it like this.


[14-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Nebbie#8545
Yikes.


[14-Aug-20 10:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
When Louisiana granted licenses without an exam, one of the justices said "We didn't even do this during Katrina! We actually lost exams and made people retake it!" as if it was supposed to be a good argument


[14-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also "everything remote" ha


[14-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
to be fair, online exams that would reasonably prevent cheating are _difficult_ to implement.


[14-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Opponent#3498
this was a... decent showing tbh, considering the options.


[14-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Opponent#3498
```The "best" part is that when they did this in the US, there were reports of female examinees getting FB friend requests by male proctors later```
and this is bad... how exactly? Besides 'eye contact is sexual harassment', I know the US trend on this kind of thing. There's no obvious conflict of interests past the exam itself.


[14-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
The proctors watched them pee.

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[14-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People grading exams shouldn't know names or faces


[14-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
It creates a pretty bad environment when someone with power over you gets to watch you pee.


[14-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
That's a big no-no in US law.


[14-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cause that shit will force females out of being lawyers, if there's a lot of male proctors and this happens.


[14-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know how a 20-year old me would react to this tbh, but right now I'd find it incredibly hillarious, on either side of it mind.


[14-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Nebbie#8545
I'm not sure about UK law, but to my understanding it's similar as well.


[14-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon ...yes, and are the people tasked with monitoring this shit the same that do the grading for those same people?


[14-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
if so, that is indeed a problem.


[14-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think test proctors in either the US or UK versions do the grading, but they hav the power to fail someone.


[14-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Nebbie#8545
(They're there to assure nobody's cheating etc.)


[14-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well, this is an unprecedented and jury-rigged procedure. You can have it this way or not at all, basicly. Going 'fuck the risks, keep it in-person only' would be one approach, but it's bad for publicity. Or it is this.


[14-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not _great_, but it's also, hopefully, not standard.


[14-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's going to be standard if nothing is done.


[14-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is the de facto industry standard now.


[14-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
To hav software that says TEST TAKER LOOKING AWAY, FAIL THEM.


[14-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Opponent#3498
well the covid craze is winding down, hopefully.


[14-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
I think there's gonna be laws against this soon.


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
not in the US, not at all


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
until we get a second wave at least...


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
5% of global population, 25% of global covid cases


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, so what is a better solution then? This sucks, not arguing it. @ Nebbie.


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
literally the worst numbers for _any_ country


[14-Aug-20 10:31 PM] byte[]#2610
idk, maybe get rid of this ridiculous outdated testing model


[14-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's expensive and expansive.


[14-Aug-20 10:32 PM] byte[]#2610
khan academy has been doing it for 10+ years


[14-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, it's also kind of shit that testing in general is relies on memory, not thinking.


[14-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Opponent#3498
wait, hold on. What is the specific of this testing in particular?


[14-Aug-20 10:33 PM] byte[]#2610
I'll let the founder explain it for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MTRxRO5SRA

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Let's teach for mastery -- not test scores | Sal Khan
Would you choose to build a house on top of an unfinished foundation? Of course not. Why, then, do we rush students through education when they haven't always grasped the basics? Yes, it's complicated, but educator Sal Khan shares his plan to turn struggling students into scho...
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[14-Aug-20 10:33 PM] Opponent#3498
right, memory vs thinking, I wasn't far off.


[14-Aug-20 10:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(25% of cases - tbh the case count in India and Bangladesh is probably hilariously discordant with real numbers)


[14-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah I wouldn't expect India in particular to report (or even _have_) anything close to legit numbers. From my understanding, the slums populations are viewed by upper class citizens as subhuman.


[14-Aug-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
another one by Paul Graham (should be taken with a big heap of salt) http://paulgraham.com/lesson.html


[14-Aug-20 10:35 PM] byte[]#2610
The Lesson to Unlearn
> The most damaging thing you learned in school wasn't something you learned in any specific class. It was learning to get good grades.


[14-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The more traditionalists, yes, they'd view casteless as less than human


[14-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tbh dunno if all that's still as ingrained these days, but it's... a close part of the culture and even legal system


[14-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Proctors are there to stop cheating


[14-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The ones at my exam dressed like they were in a cleanroom at a factory


[14-Aug-20 11:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://apnews.com/11a1e49886a3143f2db3fbf5b10c5069

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9th Circuit ends California ban on high-capacity magazines
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday threw out California's ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines, saying the law violates the U.S....
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[14-Aug-20 11:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/postal-workers-union-endorses-biden-warns-survival-usps-stake-n1236768

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Postal workers union endorses Biden, warns 'survival' of USPS at stake
The endorsement comes after the president's resistance to Postal Service funding, amid his fight against expanded mail-in voting.
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[14-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of is.


[14-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
GOP will use this to whine that the postal service itself is tampering with ballots


[14-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Opponent#3498
absolutely. But then, as someone on a different server said, there are already calls going out that the only way Trump can lose is through fraud and that outcome is automatically a reason for civil war. So this is all part of the plan.


[14-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>Those two posts in a row


[14-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't what Malcom X meant when he said "The ballot or the bullet"


[14-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Opponent#3498
different people working different problems.


[14-Aug-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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So close yet so far away
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[14-Aug-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[14-Aug-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Trumps hiring fake USPS workers to steal mail boxes used for voting


[15-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[15-Aug-20 01:17 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/i/events/1294280768550662145

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President Trump's brother was hospitalized, White House confirms
Robert Trump, the president's youngest brother, has been hospitalized in New York for unspecified reasons.
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[15-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
inb4 coronavirus


[15-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Crowvid-19


[15-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
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[15-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
:caw:

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[15-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Ramenoodles#4640
Да


[15-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Ramenoodles#4640
Если ты видишь этот текст в Гугл переводчике, то значит ты глупый :^)


[15-Aug-20 02:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
Damn, /mlp/ discovered it, I've been found out!
I was AaronMK's sockpuppet the whole time! :O

He alone was pulling the communist strings against the poor grilling derpibooru denizens, it is known


[15-Aug-20 02:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truly the plot twist of the century!


[15-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
btw haven't seen him a while


[15-Aug-20 02:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
He's still around, usually working


[15-Aug-20 02:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, absolute king bernie https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1294335193847861248?s=19

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Jason Johnson is mad Bernie didn’t let Obama dismantle the post office first lol.
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[15-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Opponent#3498
indeed.


[15-Aug-20 02:41 AM] illumnious#7938
bruh https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-issues-executive-order-to-force-bytedance-tiktok-sale-musically-2020-8?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=referral

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Trump takes another swing at TikTok with a new executive order seek...
Trump's new declaration seeks to invalidate ByteDance's purchase of Musical.ly, the precursor to TikTok, claiming it raised national security issues.
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[15-Aug-20 02:42 AM] illumnious#7938
story developing


[15-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not sure he has that power


[15-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then again that;s never stopped him before :hopeless:


[15-Aug-20 02:47 AM] illumnious#7938
:twismug:


[15-Aug-20 02:49 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1294435604789420037?s=21 okay wat

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Phony Kamala Harris is Joe Biden’s new liberal handler.

She supports:

Bernie's socialist healthcare scheme
Banning private health insurance
Benefits for illegals
Ban on fracking
AOC's socialist Green New Deal
No death penalty for cop killers https://t.co/A0vuOiCtor
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[15-Aug-20 02:50 AM] byte[]#2610
kamala harris is a dirty socialist? news to me


[15-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
death penalty for cop killers huh. So if you decide to make a stand, it's your last so better make sure you prepare accordingly :D


[15-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden has the right idea about the death penalty


[15-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The death penalty is unnecessary and often is used to discriminate.


[15-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
The UN had it right.


[15-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
The death penalty is also incongruous with the very fundamentals of a system where you always hav a chance to prove your innocence.


[15-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It removes you from being able to do so.


[15-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can if falsely imprisoned for life eventually get the resources to show that you were the target of a racist system that just wanted someone to send to jail in place of catching the actual guy


[15-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
not the case if you're executed.


[15-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or if you die of old age, of course, but that takes a long time.


[15-Aug-20 03:14 AM] illumnious#7938
wooo https://twitter.com/ztpetrizzo/status/1294406544977727490?s=21

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Pro-Trump pundit and right-wing conspiracy theorist Bill Mitchell has been suspended from Twitter.
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[15-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm trying to think up a pro-death penalty argument


[15-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
"Bernie's socialist healthcare scheme
Banning private health insurance
Benefits for illegals
Ban on fracking
AOC's socialist Green New Deal"


[15-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Sounds good to me


[15-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe vindication of the victim's families?


[15-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Victim's families don't feel any better when the guy's dead.


[15-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
They rage forever about killing him, then when he's dead go "WE STILL DON'T FEEL GOOD"


[15-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's kind of the problem with revenge-based emotion.


[15-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's evolved to operate in tribal warfare.


[15-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
You only stop wanting more done to hurt the other guy when he's there in your tribe subservient.


[15-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Nebbie#8545
If he's dead, you've gotta go kill his family, then their family, etc. etc..


[15-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Nebbie#8545
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[15-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People will fucking rage how we won't know results on Nov. 3


[15-Aug-20 03:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
This election is going to be ugly.


[15-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Don't worry, we'll just have SCOTUS decide it or something


[15-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think it should be very telling to everyone that Trump's tacitly admitting the only way for him to win is to massively suppress voting.


[15-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reminder that on June 2nd 2020 Trump administration gassed peaceful protesters so he can get a photo op with a bible upside down


[15-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Authoritarianism is good if it's to own the libs

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[15-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Dab on the libtards with gas


[15-Aug-20 04:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-12/hon-hai-beats-profit-estimates-after-pandemic-spurs-apple-demand

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China’s Days as World’s Factory Are Over, IPhone Maker Says
A key supplier to Apple Inc. and a dozen other tech giants plans to split its supply chain between the Chinese market and the U.S., declaring that China’s time as factory to the world is finished because of the trade war.
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[15-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think this is one advantage the right has, in a way

They are absolutely unshakable. Their guy can endanger the entire country by ignoring doctors and even threaten to destroy the post office, and they'll loyally follow him off a cliff.

Left-leaning people are more willing to abandon people who are half as horrible, which *I* think is ultimately a good thing, but it doesn't win us elections.


[15-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Great now some poor Indian people can make iphones for 3 cents an hour


[15-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I have a idea, we put a fake door with a sign reading antifa pro-choice liberal LGBT rights protest this way, but the door leads to a massive drop into a cave.


[15-Aug-20 04:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[15-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
'murica


[15-Aug-20 04:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay, I ask this knowing full well it may be a tautological reasoning and that there's no rationale whatsoever, but...why do the right consider "owning the libs" to be a victory worth any cost? To what end should you own the libs?


[15-Aug-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
for owning the libs, it's not about the destination, but about the smug feeling of satisfaction during journey


[15-Aug-20 04:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And yet it's not taking the moral high ground


[15-Aug-20 04:27 AM] byte[]#2610
who cares if you die? you fuckin' _owned_ those dudes


[15-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
to preserve democracy, I imagine. The libs are weak, they want communism, they want ~~your penis~~ lack of personal responsibility.


[15-Aug-20 04:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
Schadenfreude, simple as.


[15-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
No coherent political ideology outside of "hurt the people I don't like."


[15-Aug-20 04:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Delicious liberal salt for their tendies.


[15-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a vestige of Cold War that was revived for the purpose of advancing certain group's interests.


[15-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump has objectively hurt his conservative consituents but he's hurt those dang Mexicans and gays *more* and that's what matters.


[15-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
they don't _say_ 'what libs say is anti-american'. But they mean pretty much the same thing.


[15-Aug-20 04:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
so basically, it is just doublethink that it's worth giving up your constitutional rights to attack those who want to make the country more democratic and ensure our rights, out of a need for patriotism borne of populist nationalism?


[15-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, pretty much


[15-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
no cost is too great for victory.


[15-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That and they've been convinced that standing up to racism is somehow the same thing as being a racist - if not worse.


[15-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Uh oh! You just acknowledged racism exists. I guess **you're** the racist, libtard!"


[15-Aug-20 04:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
People aren't going to think rationally during an election year. Too much is at stake.


[15-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it might lead there, it's a pendulum after all, but only time will tell whether the current climate evolves into a Cult of the Black.


[15-Aug-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe if you deleted social media and cable news people might start to come to their senses again


[15-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes please.


[15-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This stuff is intellectual poison and has ruined an entire generation.


[15-Aug-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
it's ruined at least three :lul:


[15-Aug-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
zoomers are more resistant, but anyone who calls an under-18 a "digital native" is a moron


[15-Aug-20 04:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If Fox News were around in the 70s, Nixon wouldn't have resigned. I'm 100% certain of it.

Corrupt politicians were actually held accountable without a 24-hour propaganda network to protect them.


[15-Aug-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
the fact that young people have been surrounded by technology their entire lives does not mean they are more skilled than their parents at using it


[15-Aug-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
only more skilled than their parents at the things that they actually regularly use, like when it comes to using social media ... and general literacy


[15-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
skilled, maybe not, but more accustomed to it. More used to think using terms and tools offered by tech.


[15-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Opponent#3498
it's actually a legit take, the 'digital native' thing. Weird, but not inaccurate.


[15-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think a problem with that is how easy it is for misinformation to spread without any oversight.

On social media you can just find a picture of anything, slap a misleading or outright false caption on it, and it'll spread like wildfire. I don't think people are really taught to discern and look for that, especially if they're very young.


[15-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It doesn't help that the president himself - someone about 40% of the country trusts - will often just uncritically retweet fake claims without vetting them. Fabricated black crime statistics, pictures purported to be from a BLM riot that were actually from another country entirely, etc.


[15-Aug-20 04:41 AM] byte[]#2610
or blatant russian propaganda


[15-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Opponent#3498
a couple years ago I've read an essay on our current issue with Russia, but with a more global take. It suggested that with modern communications development conventional military action slowly becomes obsolete, not just because it's incresingly more difficult to operate and control the information flow, but because there is less and less _need_ for it. The media coverage of an event become much more important than the event itself, sometimes to the point of it being irrelevant.


[15-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
so, you get the hybrid war, defined as a multi-prong pressure with primary focus on the media, propaganda etc. We're back to the 'capture the hearts and minds' thing again.


[15-Aug-20 04:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/california/article244958665.html


[15-Aug-20 04:48 AM] byte[]#2610
> Judge tells Devin Nunes for 3rd time he can’t sue Twitter over anonymous tweets

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[15-Aug-20 04:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lol


[15-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
and it works simply because it's impossible to vet everything; not enough hours in a day or life to double-check every single relevant fact, and when you _do_ try to do it, at the end of the day you have to trust _someone_ as reliable, or cut yourself from the flow entirely.


[15-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Opponent#3498
also it went on to say that this is also an extremely dangerous game that you can't _stop_ playing on demand, you can't simply _end_ a war you didn't declare, and fought using disinformation and media manipulation. So fuck knows where does this rabbit hole lead.


[15-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think we ought to, as a society, start only trusting accredited reliable sources. A grainy jpeg and an inflammatory caption with no sources cited should strike us as immediately suspicious.


[15-Aug-20 04:58 AM] byte[]#2610
how do you form a chain of trust


[15-Aug-20 04:59 AM] jlun2#8758
> No coherent political ideology outside of "hurt the people I don't like."
how is this even sustainable? i joke about being an infinite amount of ppl, but there isnt


[15-Aug-20 04:59 AM] byte[]#2610
it isn't sustainable


[15-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Lee Atwater - Republican strategist who worked for Regan - even described how people will vote for and propose things against their own interests just to hurt minorities even worse.

*"You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger". By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites."*

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[15-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But you can just as easily replace black people with gay people, women, poor people, whatever.

Policies that would help everyone across the board - better police accountability, universal healthcare, nondiscrimination laws, etc. - are opposed by conservatives regardless, because their absence *really* penalizes the poor and minority communities the most. Even though, again, they'd help everybody.


[15-Aug-20 05:25 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[15-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/70evwxk9u0h51.jpg my little pony, my little pony, aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA

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[15-Aug-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
@dissociativity the original article is even more damning than that https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/three-cheers-socialism

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Three Cheers for Socialism
In the late modern world something like socialism is the only possible way of embodying Christian love in concrete political practices.
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[15-Aug-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes but I'd have to actually get chuds to read it


[15-Aug-20 05:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
they decide to ignore anything that has a title that scares them and try to bait you and pivot based on the title


[15-Aug-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
"Any day now in Sweden, it seems, free dentistry will mutate into a secret state-police apparatus and a sprawling archipelago of reeducation camps."
lmao


[15-Aug-20 05:56 AM] jlun2#8758
> In the late modern world something like socialism is the only possible way of embodying Christian love in concrete political practices.
I thought american christians worship money tho


[15-Aug-20 06:28 AM] Synfag#9241
https://abc7.com/politics/9th-circuit-ends-california-ban-on-high-capacity-magazines/6370763/

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California ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines is overturned ...
A three-judge panel threw out California's ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines, saying the law violates the U.S. Constitution's protection of the right to bear firearms.
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[15-Aug-20 10:19 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/i/events/1294361395413176322

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Marge Simpson has something to say to the Trump campaign
Marge Simpson has words for a Trump advisor who tried to unfavorably compare Kamala Harris to "The Simpsons" matriarch.
Twitter


[15-Aug-20 11:14 AM] Phelan#7647
God, the Simpsons are bad on their own. Whenever they wander into politics, it just becomes so cringy.


[15-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I force myself to forget Simpsons progressed past season 8


[15-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And do my best to forget the first season for the art style alone


[15-Aug-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah the simpsons reboot where lisa was born in 2009


[15-Aug-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/trump-officials-could-face-criminal-charges-for-usps-sabotage-and-the-president-may-not-be-able-to-pardon-them/

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Trump officials could face criminal charges for USPS sabotage — and...
Members of the Trump administration could face legal jeopardy over efforts to sabotage U.S. Postal Service operations to interfere with the 2020 presidential elections. “Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. (D-NJ) made a criminal referral to the New Jersey Attorney General on Friday night,...
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[15-Aug-20 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512064-trump-says-hed-sign-usps-funding-if-democrats-make-concessions

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Trump says he'll sign USPS funding if Democrats make concessions
President Trump on Friday said he will approve billions of dollars in funding for the U.S. Postal Service as part of a coronavirus relief package if Democrats make concessions on certain White House priorities.
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[15-Aug-20 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he's turning it into a hostage situation


[15-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikeiKa01tgw

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Chuck Norris threatens bloody dictator Lukashenka
Chuck Norris threatens bloody dictator Lukashenka
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[15-Aug-20 01:47 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Happy Victory over Japan day everyone.


[15-Aug-20 01:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u2


[15-Aug-20 01:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/bolivian-lower-house-approves-toxic-bleach-as-covid-19-treatment-2020-8

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Bolivian lawmakers are pushing to legalise a substance which its own health ministry has warned has no curative benefits and is dangerous to consume.
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[15-Aug-20 01:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
You can't die from covid if you're already dead from industrial bleach poisoning!


[15-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
oh jesus. It's one thing to have ass-backwards folks try this, but to actually have this enshrined in a law...


[15-Aug-20 02:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like he's about to try some absinthe


[15-Aug-20 02:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which would probably be healthier...


[15-Aug-20 02:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This all feels like people throwing away their lives to say "We know way better than those stuck-up scientists"


[15-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone told me what's best for me, FUCK THEM, THEY'RE NOT MY MOM, MY BODY MY RULES, REEEEEE


[15-Aug-20 02:07 PM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[15-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good bat.

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[15-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"conservatives, it's good to vote" - some elitist harvard professor


[15-Aug-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://reut.rs/30URpW7

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United Parcel Service and FedEx on Friday shot down social media calls that they step in to deliver mail-in ballots from the U.S. Postal Service, which is warning states of potentially "significant" delays.
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[15-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
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[15-Aug-20 04:41 PM] wren#0114
like, just email lmao


[15-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let me get right on emailing medication to my grandparents


[15-Aug-20 04:48 PM] wren#0114
ye bro star trek style


[15-Aug-20 04:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3d printing has come a long way in such a short time


[15-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump: "Election will be invalid because the mail will be slow"
*two weeks later*
Trump: "I'm cutting funding to the USPS and deleting hundreds of mail sorting machines. Also I just applied for mail-in voting in Florida, the state I registered in now after New York started catching on on all my frauds. :^) "


[15-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I get hating Biden and the dems, I really really do


[15-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But anyone that looks at Trump and the GOP and doesn't think they're all pieces of shit, liars, and absolutely out to destroy democracy... I just don't know what to think tbh


[15-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Comparing the two is idiotic. Biden sucks but he's not an overt cartoon villain who's blatantly cheating the election.


[15-Aug-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden sucks in a more behind the times kind of way, Trump sucks in a movie villain in a movie where the protagonist is a dog kind of way


[15-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
1990s saturday morning cartoon writers are looking at what Trump and the GOP have been doing and they're just amazed


[15-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The Captain Planet villains look like good guys in comparison


[15-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I swear, if I'd written a fictional Republican who did exactly what Trump is doing a few years ago, conservatives would accuse me of strawmanning


[15-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like, I remember most of them having limits and red lines to not cross


[15-Aug-20 04:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point Trump would have had a mech by now if this were a saturday cartoon


[15-Aug-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump is just straight up "the liberals hate when people dump mercury in aquifers, so despite literally everyone in the industry itself telling me it's a bad idea, Imma mandate it be done"


[15-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Those baddies would at least team up with the heroes against bigger threats sometimes. Trump would happily sell us out to the greater-scope season 2 villains, who I guess is Putin in this analogy.


[15-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
When the protags of the Fern Gully movie are telling you you've gone too far, and you just go further to ~own the libs~


[15-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck, the villains would have _motives_


[15-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This has just been "the leftists don't like it, so let's do it solely because of that"


[15-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"are you *triggered* that people are dying, liberal???"


[15-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I hate that this is now mainstream political discourse. Adults who work in the White House are unironically going "lol triggered" like a bunch of edgy teenage imageboard posters.


[15-Aug-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"My dad works in frozen foods, get cucked liberals!"


[15-Aug-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Oh you want me to care about how well my own state runs? well i;m gonna drain the infrustructure budget just to own the libs! Triggered 420 hose it!"


[15-Aug-20 05:25 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
No ones staged a coup yet... I’m disappointed


[15-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, I'm sure that no matter who wins in November, either side will declare it a coup


[15-Aug-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[15-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Elaborate, please. *Please* go on and tell us how this image is political discussion.


[15-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
@Synfag Please elaborate how that image pertains to political discussion


[15-Aug-20 06:05 PM] wren#0114
I think it's the kid from this case https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/us/north-carolina-boy-killed-father-speaks-trnd/index.html

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The grieving father of a 5-year-old boy killed in North Carolina said the suspect has lived next door for eight years and he shared dinner with him a day before the shooting.
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[15-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, and the question is how is this indefensible tragedy a "political" issue?


[15-Aug-20 06:05 PM] wren#0114
news


[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I don't understand how that relates to political discussion


[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
to quote nebbie, "everything is politics"

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[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
:shrugpony:


[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And @Synfag has 10 minutes to explain his logic


[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] wren#0114
wew


[15-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A deranged murderer killed an innocent child, and he was promptly arrested - as he should be.


[15-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There is nothing to protest or debate in this awful case. A disgusting excuse for a human being murdered a child and was rightly arrested and will almost certainly be rightly punished.


[15-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Using Cannon Hinnant as a martyr to "expose" perceived hypocrisy in BLM protesters - saying "Why do you protest police killings but not *this* heinous murder?" - is disingenuous. We'd *be* protesting and a whole lot more if the cops, courts, and legal system protected Hinnant's killer, but that's not happening.


[15-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Basically everyone agrees that the murderer should be tossed in jail forever, *at a minimum.*


[15-Aug-20 06:11 PM] wren#0114
I don't think anyone is questioning that?


[15-Aug-20 06:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, seeing conservatives prop up this murdered child as a justification for hating on BLM is incredibly disrespectful


[15-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
5 year old died, guy who did it was found charged and found guilty


[15-Aug-20 06:12 PM] wren#0114
I hate on blm the organization for its own reasons


[15-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yeet him into prison


[15-Aug-20 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can dislike BLM for your own reasons


[15-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm opposed to the death penalty but cases like this seriously test my personal feelings on the matter.


[15-Aug-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But what we're saying is, people are propping up this incident because it's a black-on-white crime case, the perpetrator is a black man


[15-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
^ this tbh


[15-Aug-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And using it to denigrate all the demands of the BLM movement as if the murderer is not in jail already and sufficiently ostracized by societal rage


[15-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Child abusers and child murderers really tempt me but I stand stong on my stance that outside war the state has no right to take away someones life outside of war


[15-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I said it before. Protests are not a finger-wag of disapproval. They are a demand for systemic change.

There is no systemic change to demand in this case. The killer was arrested, as he should be.


[15-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You can't protest away civilian murderers, because murderers are not beholden to the law and the people in the same way tax-funded institutions like the police are.


[15-Aug-20 06:16 PM] wren#0114
ye


[15-Aug-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
now if it was a cop who shot this child, then it would be a way different discussion


[15-Aug-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it wasnt


[15-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've seen isolated screencaps of posts *ostensibly* from black people celebrating Hinnant's death, and assuming those are legit, fuck those people. But the people spreading the images around are clearly trying to push a narrative of "black people in general are happy about Hinnant's death" which is goddamn ludicrous and not true.


[15-Aug-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuck both sides of that coin


[15-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
There really isn't a discussion to be had here. The kid was murdered the muderer was found charged and tryed.


[15-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Child murder is bad no matter what race does it


[15-Aug-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
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[15-Aug-20 06:26 PM] ononim#8141
video showing that the guy who died in belarus protest was shot and did not die because of "explosive in his hand"


[15-Aug-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How's Russia reacting to all this in Belarus?


[15-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Bela-what?"


[15-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
No oil, no natural gas, no rare earth minerals, not really a buffer anymore


[15-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the dictator moved against Putin's private mercenaries a few days before the election


[15-Aug-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, Belarus doesn't even have a strong national identity to begin with -- over half of its population speaks Russian and iirc the Byelorussian language is so similar to the former as to be perhaps classifiable as a dialect


[15-Aug-20 06:29 PM] ononim#8141
Pls no "is it dialect is it langauge"


[15-Aug-20 06:29 PM] ononim#8141
I don't want this horror in english speaking space too


[15-Aug-20 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok, ok


[15-Aug-20 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But Belarus has a weak national identity apart from Lukashenko, right?


[15-Aug-20 06:30 PM] jlun2#8758
> "Bela-what?"
thats me until yesturday too


[15-Aug-20 06:30 PM] ononim#8141
also Russian reaction is kinda weird, they did arrest Wagner guys before election but they have been safely sent back here, and I think RF is low-key baking Lukashenko, since it is at least the leader you know and the government is committed to "anti orange revolution and anti-maidan" image


[15-Aug-20 06:31 PM] ononim#8141
and I doubt most protestors or even people backing them are pro-Russia


[15-Aug-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IIRC Belarus was a weird part of a many-step early Soviet plan to incorporate Lithuania -- medieval Lithuania controlled Belarus so the USSR cliques assumed that area was culturally distinct from Russia


[15-Aug-20 06:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And then they left it as an autonomous SSR equal to Russia and Ukraine for... reasons? Why does Belarus exist?


[15-Aug-20 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
because the population is distinc enough from russian and ukraine


[15-Aug-20 06:33 PM] ononim#8141
they even had their own short lived national gov during civil war iirc


[15-Aug-20 06:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the western half it is, yes, but the first Byelorussian SSR was tiny


[15-Aug-20 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
also I have theories that Belarus having a bit weaker national identity than Ukraine and Belarus is partially because uhhhhh *a LOT of people died there in ww 2, like A LOT*


[15-Aug-20 06:34 PM] ononim#8141
it still had belorussian people


[15-Aug-20 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
also Minsk was pretty much rebuilt from scratch after ww2 iirc


[15-Aug-20 06:35 PM] ononim#8141
also, belorussian and lithuanian nationalists sometimes have weird fights over who was "the real lithuanians"


[15-Aug-20 06:36 PM] ononim#8141
With belorussians nationalists that it is them who were real and curent Lithuanians are just "wild balts" who were part of the duchy


[15-Aug-20 06:36 PM] ononim#8141
Fun inter nationalist euro things!


[15-Aug-20 06:37 PM] ononim#8141
It is all muddied of course by the fact that Duchy of Lithuania was a medieval polity, so identity was not really national but more feudal, as in with the duchy


[15-Aug-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The pharaohs were BYELORUSSIAN!!!


[15-Aug-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
So in the sense they were all Lithuanians, especially since a lot of Eastern Slavic nobility integrated into that of Duchy, and the slavic language at the time was at times lingua franca


[15-Aug-20 06:38 PM] ononim#8141
no no no, that's Ukranians (the Ancient Ukres) who build the pyramids


[15-Aug-20 06:39 PM] ononim#8141
While ancient Russian were Etruscans (Eto [this is] rusciye, you see) after migrating from Hyperborea


[15-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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The Huffington Post’s White House correspondent, S V Dáte, broke from the usual question and answer protocol at President Trump's press briefings, posing a simple, yet cutting question: "Mr President, after three and a half years, do you regret at all, all the lying you’ve don...
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[15-Aug-20 06:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
What a legend


[15-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Treascair#7785
I saw that and went "FINALLY!"


[15-Aug-20 07:29 PM] Serenity#9645
*asks loaded question* next question?
its a pretty bad gotcha its like asking biden "do you regret being racist?" what would he say? no, im proud of it? yes, i was racist? partially?


[15-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He could have asked to specify which lies


[15-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But given Trump lies every time his mouth is open for more than 5 seconds, it'd be like asking for which drop of water to pluck out of the sea


[15-Aug-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seems more like the type of question designed to get stuck in your head and nag at you later down the line


[15-Aug-20 07:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's a rhetorical question in the same vein as "Have you no decency?" to McCarthy


[15-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Serenity#9645
back to the biden hypothetical, biden asks when. then they say the you aint black statement. then he has to explain something already said in media as that was a joke.
a better question at a press brief if "we know you are talking with Israel and that united arabs. what is your goal with these talks?"
something id like to know more about


[15-Aug-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://politics.theonion.com/trump-online-store-begins-selling-decommissioned-usps-m-1844729569

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WASHINGTON—Calling them “the perfect keepsake” to remember the agency, the official Trump online campaign store began selling decommissioned USPS mailboxes Friday so fans could own a piece of history. “For the low price of $500, a piece of this beloved former institution can b...
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[15-Aug-20 07:44 PM] Serenity#9645
for biden, id want to know more about his policies and have those elaborated on.
stuff like "people are calling for defunding the police. where do you stand on that?". ill say the same thing if asked a loaded question as "do you regret lying" "why are you racist" or "do you have no decency" if they asked him or anyone during the debates, i hate trump in 2016 that pulled that bullshit in debates


[15-Aug-20 07:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no issue with rhetorical questions during "press conferences"


[15-Aug-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe in a debate, sure. but during a press conference already full of lies, eh


[15-Aug-20 07:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, Trump's already not there in good faith. Publicly dragging him is a good thing.


[15-Aug-20 07:51 PM] Serenity#9645
rhetorical question is asking a question not expecting a answer, a point of press brief is to understand more about the world and the country. so i dont really think they should be asked for good journalism to be conducted.


[15-Aug-20 07:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, and in any respectable press conference I'd agree.

But this isn't. Trump's "press conferences" are opportunities for him to lie and propagandize. He isn't interested in informing the public.


[15-Aug-20 07:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if he;s already picky and choosy with questions, you might as well give him something to skip over


[15-Aug-20 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
```no no no, that's Ukranians (the Ancient Ukres) who build the pyramids``` 
yeah unfortunately this _was_ a thing during our wonderful president Yuschenko. For some reason he was _really_ bent on promoting outward elements of national identity, all this tacky colorful shit, songs etc, including some stuff like this. Given his strong US ties and everything else about Orange Revolution, this might or might not be a (mostly failed) US project to break Ukraine outside of Russia's influence zone by strengthening national identity? I guess.


[15-Aug-20 07:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hilarious part is if he doesnt like a question enough, he just gets up and leaves the conference


[15-Aug-20 07:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He;s only there for praise and reactionary statements, he has no intentions of telling you what his plans are or  what his administration is planning


[15-Aug-20 07:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his plus ones are there to do that but he dismisses anything "contradictory" they might say


[15-Aug-20 07:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except for pence, he;s jsut there to go "everything's fine, nothing to see here, we got this" :thisisfine:


[15-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Serenity#9645
im just getting a i agree with you but not because trump is there vibe. why cant we just ask real questions and then determine if we like the answer no matter who it is on stage? i think you can get more ammunition asking real questions then pitiful "rhetorical questions"
cus "trump doesnt respond to being called a lier" and "trump said during a press breif that (x bad thing)" holds way different weight


[15-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
there's already a mile-long list of bad things he said during press conferences. The 'inject bleach'/blacklight thing will probably be remembered longer than he is, he'll now forever be known as the Bleach President, or Miracle Cure President.


[15-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Serenity#9645
and we got that from a real question, not a stupid one


[15-Aug-20 08:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's time for both in a press conference, he likes hearing himself talk


[15-Aug-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610

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[15-Aug-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
I admit I didn't read the link before looking at that preview and it got me _bad_


[15-Aug-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the onion really nailed that one with beleivability


[15-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Serenity#9645
if the media didnt write every hour "trump picked his nose" and just posted "trump said (x bad thing) in address to the press" there would be alot more resentment and alot less the media wont shut up about trump doing small stupid thing making him more populist, the stupidity is drowning out the actual bad


[15-Aug-20 08:09 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think most critical reporting on Trump has been fair.


[15-Aug-20 08:09 PM] byte[]#2610
"trump made minor fuckup" headlines are really not very common because he makes so many _major_ fuckups


[15-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Serenity#9645
they went weeks on reporting about him drinking water lol


[15-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's more online discourse than "the media."


[15-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Just everyday people making fun of him.


[15-Aug-20 08:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the latest major fuck ups he made was admitting out loud on fox news that he was sabotaging the mail, so people couldn't vote


[15-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Opponent#3498
they tried to turn bleach into a 'minor fuckup' though, they really did. 'He was just joking roflmao, media won't stop dragging him through mud for nothing roflmao'


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
they went for weeks on it _because trump kept bragging about how he was perfectly fine at drinking water_


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
that went poorly, but they gave it a go.


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] byte[]#2610
before that it was just a dumb twitter meme, then it got under his skin


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Serenity#9645
so pointless reporting...


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump keeps trying to downplay shit that doesnt need downplaying


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thAT'S WHat turns the little meme stuff into headlines


[15-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump had the opportunity to let it go and say "Actually yeah, you should trust science, it was a bad joke" but he doubled and tripled down and then promoted a *"""doctor"""* that deals in demons and spirits.


[15-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
also yes, I think Mechano's correct. People really conflate legitimate news outlets, influencers and general population into one blob and calling it 'media'.


[15-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
technically probably not inaccurate but jfk nuance much?


[15-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
like, CNN isn't dragging Trump for typos or mispronunciations


[15-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
That's just the general online public taking the piss.


[15-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Serenity#9645
i dont think CNN can their articles are riddled with editing errors, sometimes i think they dont have a editor


[15-Aug-20 08:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
A reporter gave trump a chance to send a unifying message out to americans in a time of crisis, Trump instead doubled down on his hatred of reporters and called them an awful person from a fake news agency


[15-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Serenity#9645
of course bigger news is pretty clean of errors, but damn some of them i cant read and have to read multable times lol


[15-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Conservative media was all too happy to lambast Obama for dumb shit like ordering the wrong mustard or wearing the wrong suit though.

don't get me wrong, fuck Obama, but I'm just pointing out that "the media picking on the president for stupid shit" is way more of a right-wing problem


[15-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah fuck obama and i called out conservative media for the same dumb shit


[15-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But what I'm saying is the mainstream media really isn't doing anything on that level.


[15-Aug-20 08:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh god the tan suit! America is burning!


[15-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Unless trending Twitter hashtags are the mainstream media now, I guess


[15-Aug-20 08:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-riot-police-lower-shields-alexander-lukashenko-election-protests-2020-8

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Thousands of Belarusians have been protesting since President Alexander Lukashenko claimed victory in what critics say was a rigged election.
https://i.insider.com/5f37e059e89ebf001f044fe5?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Pepsi commercial was a prophecy all along

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[15-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Serenity#9645
i just feel like conservative media during the bomber-in-cheif is why he got elected twice. its gonna be the same reason like 2015-2016 and possably 2020 why he gets elected again no one can take the media seriously when its watergate and other stupid nonsense all the time


[15-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, examples please. What mainstream news organization is unfairly reporting on Trump? Post articles?


[15-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I feel like you might be conflating comedians and social media here.


[15-Aug-20 08:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also affixing the -gate suffix to everything is stupid, watergate was a hotel


[15-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Serenity#9645
i know its just what people latch onto now


[15-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> watergate had nothing to do with water
I can't believe I've been lied to all my life

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[15-Aug-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/512169-trump-to-withdraw-controversial-public-lands-nominee

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Trump to withdraw controversial public lands nominee
President Trump will withdraw William Perry Pendley’s nomination to lead the Department of Interior's Bureau of Land Management (BLM), a White House official confirmed to The Hill.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/pendleywilliamperry_09302019interior.jpg


[15-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It wasn't about wiretapping my political opponents, it was about ethics in water processing


[15-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
When even Trump thinks you're too fringe


[15-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I also do not think Fox News had much of anything to do with Obama being elected. He wasn't elected on resentment of conservative media, he was elected because Bush was such a colossal fuckup that the Republican brand was effectively poisoned.

Trump won, again, not because of some resentment toward mainstream media but because the electoral turnout was a record-low. People hated both candidates but Trump still managed to eek out a victory thanks to the EC.


[15-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Serenity#9645
kinda funny he remove the lead of BLM (i know different BLM but kinda funny to me)


[15-Aug-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He failed to become the CEO of BLM


[15-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Serenity#9645
saw the nomination part too late woops


[15-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump voters were not a massive enthusiastic wave of populists. The 2016 election had super low numbers on both sides.


[15-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Biden doesn't have nearly the baggage Clinton did. He can absolutely still lose, but without the spectre of Benghazi over his head I think his chances are a lot better.


[15-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Serenity#9645
you do got a point there, but there was massive anti-trump all over mainstream media. made him more populist, i whole heartedly believe if it wasnt for anti-trump media advertising him all the time he wouldnt have won


[15-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Clinton's controversy wasn't exactly scarce in the media either. All news networks covered the email scandal a great deal and it damaged Democratic enthusiasm.

I still voted for her, full transparency. Not because I liked her but because I knew Trump was the worse option.


[15-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think Democrats and left-leaning voters in general are more willing to give up on bad candidates. It's principled, but it also means we lose elections if we're running someone who's kind of crap.

I feel like it's harder to dissuade a Republican voter from their party's candidate generally, if Trump's antics and his support with his base remaining relatively stable is any indication.


[15-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Serenity#9645
seriously dont know what would be worse killery or drumpf. hilliary was so anti-russia and poking at warmongering it was kinda scary. trumps promise like obama to pull out troops i took with a huge grain of salt after obama (and suprisingly has to a great degree but not enough) did look better even if he wanted to poke the fire of china. i didnt vote trump full disclosure hated how he operated didnt like the nastyness of him.


[15-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Whether it's a good or bad thing, the "left" (I say in quotes because there's a pretty major distinction between liberals and leftists but in US politics we're pretty much lumped together) is less united and resolved than the right is. Trump's had numerous scandals since his election that blow Clinton's emails out of the water, but his supporters don't really care - whereas the Clinton coverage really did hurt her electability.


[15-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Serenity#9645
im liberal in more of a euro sense. and in the states i wouldnt be called lefty more moderate.


[15-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, they don't care or they've been conditioned to think all negative reporting on Trump is fake.


[15-Aug-20 08:38 PM] byte[]#2610
> im liberal in more of a euro sense. and in the states i wouldnt be called lefty more moderate.
that doesn't make any sense because to americans "european liberal" more or less means "fucking socialist commie reee"

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[15-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Serenity#9645
i lived in germany for awhile and like it there and fill alot of their values. that isnt the wierd nationality race sexuality stuff thats growing in germany. im more individualist in that sense.


[15-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Serenity#9645
and i dont know what americans your talking to but conservatives in the states like my ideas more times then not just dont agree on a few things like partial national healthcare and a few social programs in germany and such. i see alot more "lefty" people that tell me im not socialist enough lol


[15-Aug-20 08:45 PM] Serenity#9645
if i could change one thing in germany it would be freedom of speech. its super wierd having to hold some jokes until im in a private group or could get a huge fine and then internet laws should be more free and open and cheeper, its more expencive there for slower speeds


[15-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Serenity#9645
also hugely disappointed in the states with quality of food and drink. but i will say your pizza is so so much better then here


[15-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Serenity#9645
expectably alcohol, like we can drink on the train, walking down the road pretty much anywhere that doesnt say no drinking inside. we get money back for recycling 25c for most cans and 6c for bottles in a thing called pfand. i can buy jack daniels for half the price i can in tennessee lol


[15-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Serenity#9645
we have a energy drink called crazy wolf, when it goes on sale in kauflands, it costs 25c, you can get 25c back from turning in the can lol (its sized like the small red bull can)


[15-Aug-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the state of food and drink is abysmal in america


[15-Aug-20 09:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
even our oatmeal is just full of cheap substitutes for actual oatmeal ingredients


[15-Aug-20 09:05 PM] jlun2#8758
💰


[15-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah goto europe and its a entirely different world, yogourt is more like milky soup, if you get past the texture it tastes so much more pure, im going back to germany 2021 it will be my 3rd year there (like whole year not a vacation) and it took me 5 months to drink milk again tasted like bleach.-in the us-


[15-Aug-20 09:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh gee i wonder why america has an obesity problem


[15-Aug-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american chocolate is made with vomit acid


[15-Aug-20 09:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which is part of why hershey buying out cadbury in the states was a really bad deal


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cadbury tastes like shit now


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Americans like the vomit acid chocolate


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's the weird part


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Serenity#9645
there are kinder joy in europe but no one buys them they buy ridler if your cheep and milka if your normal lol


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s due to exposure


[15-Aug-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
@Serenity i wonder how many americas even know other flavors of whatever they eat even exists


[15-Aug-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
until we;re really older we dont know anything else so we just sort of get used to it


[15-Aug-20 09:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the loads of sugar and corn syrup also slightly override the flavor


[15-Aug-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one thing i noticed as i got older is that hershey's chocolate burns going down


[15-Aug-20 09:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now i know why


[15-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Serenity#9645
truthfully dont know ive traveled all over due to my job and im going to end up settleing down in germany or poland depending on politics. and before you say but poland is a evil place! yeah politics suck but the economy is so much cheeper then germany and i was in poland for abit its beautiful and suprisingly didnt hate me (im gay) just has some stupid laws on it but they wont effect my life


[15-Aug-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
if you dont mind living in rural china  https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2183771/chinese-disbelief-us295-monthly-salary-makes-them-middle-class

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Report that US$295 monthly pay makes Chinese ‘middle class’ sparks ...
Statistics bureau gives rare official definition of ‘middle income’ that is met with ridicule online, forcing it to clarify that it applied to a specific report.
https://cdn1.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/og_twitter_scmp_generic/public/images/methode/2019/01/28/f378a8ac-216e-11e9-9b66-f8d7b487d426_image_hires_124115.JPG?itok=y-2yRFFP&v=1548650479


[15-Aug-20 09:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i want to move out of america myself, i just don't see a successful future here even if i do drive myself into debt with college or trade school


[15-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Serenity#9645
germany has a govt program for citizens free* collage and internship that pays 15 euro a hour min at year 3


[15-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Serenity#9645
*free as in under a specific cost, anything above is paid and you have a better oppertunity of getting in


[15-Aug-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/qbx7dm/talking-to-american-debt-dodgers-who-moved-to-europe-to-avoid-paying-off-their-student-loans-111
dont sue me if it fails ty

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Debt Dodgers: Meet the Americans Who Moved to Europe and Went AWOL ...
Some cash-strapped former students are choosing to leave America behind in order to avoid paying off their giant debts.
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[15-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Serenity#9645
im positive 60k lol


[15-Aug-20 09:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i've avoided debt but that also comes with a backfire of no credit score

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[15-Aug-20 09:14 PM] jlun2#8758
take loan immediately fly to euro & never come back


[15-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Serenity#9645
wont need to im posative 60k and if i liquidate maybe 150kish?


[15-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Serenity#9645
with rent at 250 a month and a job lined up at a airport as a tech i should do good lol


[15-Aug-20 09:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i really need nitro so i can use my burning dollar emoji

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[15-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Serenity#9645
but definately if you move to europe learn politics, dont speak about them but learn them, its alot harder to learn a multi-party system and people dont talk politics there they talk about issues not parties.


[15-Aug-20 09:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i prefer issues over parties, i wish we had something like that instead of our sports team nonsense


[15-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Serenity#9645
you dont hear people saying vote animal party, they say hey the animal party holds that value you should look into them more


[15-Aug-20 09:18 PM] jlun2#8758
"vote us because we're not them"


[15-Aug-20 09:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Vote cleveland, because at least it's not detroit!"


[15-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah dismissing 2020, there is more violence over football then over politics lol


[15-Aug-20 09:20 PM] jlun2#8758
its their new religion


[15-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Serenity#9645
thats why im against the racial movement of BLM in germany, it turned many people into my side over yours in politics, fucking US politics are infecting germany...


[15-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Serenity#9645
thats why i said im more individualist but like german policy (mostly not refugee and freedom of speech violations)


[15-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Serenity#9645
everyone can be a asshole disregarding race or national origin, but planting a seed of mass refugees of trying to make our place like theirs that they fled from fuck that. assimilate to the peacefulness and dont cause gang wars that was in your country. i had to separate gangs from eachother in a turkish bar with the bar owner, there are many that are awesome just dont bring your old world with you here


[15-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Serenity#9645
the bar owner is turkish refugee and a good friend of mine like most of the patreons cus i used to DJ there alot, but there has been gang stabbings and alot of fights, cant speak turkish so the owner talks to them well i seperate... its a sad sight looking back...


[15-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Leaving to avoid paying off debt
Imagine your country has agreements with other countries to press criminal charges remotely and capability to arrange repayment of debts and taxes.


[15-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Serenity i can see why but you must understand how fucked things are down south


[15-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The murder of Floyd and the gassing of protesters are really really really fucking bad and need to change


[15-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Serenity#9645
US politics... US doings... why is there a movement in germany? why are they having protests, why are they borderline rioting? (i say borderline cus alot less violence has happened there but there is still violence over floyd in germany vs the US actual riots) polizei are amazing people, ive never gotten anything but help even when one of my friends started flipping shit at a fest cus we didnt know there was fireworks, he was trying to fight people that got close. the polizei helped me calm him down. nothing but good experiences for years.


[15-Aug-20 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
I think the point is that thing again, yeah. Keep US politics in US.


[15-Aug-20 09:50 PM] Opponent#3498
why is it global? It's your problem.


[15-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
this isn't even a * rights movement which helps everywhere. This has everything to do with your police's conduct and general attitude of your people.


[15-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
it getting viral... Well.


[15-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Some people like to force unnecessary ideas to others


[15-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
btw it's one of the many, _many_ issues with a vague title like BLM.


[15-Aug-20 09:54 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not immediately obvious what it's about. So, people hold onto it for... reasons.


[15-Aug-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's not much german politicians can do for our police situation, so a protest in germany isn't really helping. I kinda got the japanese protests though, apparently their police are hostile towards immigrants and citizens who aren't asian.


[15-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I cannot overstate how much I hate vague slogans. This is why.


[15-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie ah yes the forceing the ideals of stop fucking killing unarmed black men for petty crimes


[15-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Opponent#3498
nice try, but no.


[15-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
How many unarmed black men were killed in Europe this year bro?


[15-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Especially in Russia where black prob like 0.01% of population


[15-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Today I learned you cant have protests to suport other things you agree with somewhere else


[15-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Opponent#3498
btw you conflated 'ideals' with 'ideas'.


[15-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Serenity#9645
in germany we have equal rights laws. no one started complaining untill the US did a thing. why is it here? why are cops bad in germany cus a few bad cops in the US did a thing... alot of people in europe know he was resisting and lethally high and just see it as policing with a unfortounate outcome. and dont think of it as a reason to burn a different country then the US down for, well the movement people are starting shit in a different country then the US.


[15-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea to go start an anti-government protest because some guy across the ocean got killed by a crooked cop is insane.

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[15-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anti goverment?


[15-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
police is a government service, is it not?

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[15-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Saying don't gas protesters and stop killing black people for small crimes is now anti goverment?


[15-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Opponent#3498
government isn't just the sacred office of President of the United States (brave and glorious)


[15-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Serenity#9645
again why is their protests and borderline riots in germany for your cause, crow?


[15-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Serenity#9645
what did the polizei do to floyd?


[15-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Support and solidarity.


[15-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Serenity#9645
what did they do for hands up dont shoot?


[15-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Serenity#9645
what did the polizei do to get attacked for US stupidity?


[15-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a protest against a government institution and it's regulations. It's _by definition_ anti-government. It's just that the term is used in US discource to describe the dreaded _LEFT_, but not much to be done there.


[15-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Nothing. As I was saying the protests are for support and solidarity with the US.


[15-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Serenity#9645
then why are polizei getting attacked for your solidarity? they can truthfully fuck off


[15-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The Polizei have nothing to do with it. It's in solidarity


[15-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Bruh im not saying they should attack them


[15-Aug-20 10:03 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Some people are under the weird dream that the U.S. is the entire world


[15-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anyone who attacks the Polizei is an asshole


[15-Aug-20 10:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus something everyone kinda passed over

As for "lethaly high" the symptoms don't match the drug police tried to say he was on with their autopsy (also take police autopsy's with a grain of salt in america if it's someone they themselves killed)

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Medical Examiner's Autopsy Reveals George Floyd Had Positive Test F...
The 20-page report released Wednesday shows that Floyd tested positive for the virus in early April. It also confirmed fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of death.
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[15-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And should be charged with assult


[15-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I do not condone people atacking the Polizei


[15-Aug-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
another thing on the details, george floyds family got a non police autopsy done on him jsut to make sure the police were telling the truth


[15-Aug-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floyd-death-autopsies-homicide-axphyxiation-details/

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Two autopsies both find George Floyd died by homicide, but differ o...
The county medical examiner and independent forensic pathologists commissioned by Floyd's family both released autopsy reports.
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[15-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Serenity#9645
have you ever done a upper and downer? even in non-leathel amounts of each?


[15-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The guy died from a jackboot of a cop


[15-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/xRoqSyIi-98

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoqSyIi-98
George Floyd Toxicology Report: Explained
George Floyd's toxicology report that was released with autopsy from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office was released week of June 1, 2020. Nothing in it absolves those officers, and the report confirms what we saw happen on camera.
Toxicology (Playlist) ► https://www.yo...
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[15-Aug-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no i havent tried drugs though he didnt have the symptoms of meth


[15-Aug-20 10:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you ever seen soemone on meth?


[15-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Serenity#9645
cus before i got my life together i did alot of things and wont lie almost died doing alot less then on those reports. i get each person is different. but doesnt matter he was drugged up and the tapes released before his death confermed it


[15-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Serenity#9645
of course i ran it in a 01 firebird in a massive meth  making state


[15-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah i was homeless running drugs well underage no license cus i couldnt get a real job. its sad but i did it, and i would never go back


[15-Aug-20 10:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the non police autopsy showed the hard kneeling on his neck and spine for 8 full minutes as the cause of death


[15-Aug-20 10:11 PM] Serenity#9645
i never said it did, im just saying it lead upto the bad curcumstance, if he just complied and didnt kick himself out of the car he wouldnt have died. theres actually many places he wouldnt have died


[15-Aug-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they tried to force a terrified man into a car, i;m not sure what they were expecting when the panic set in


[15-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Serenity#9645
i fully say the officer should be charged, im just saying he isnt innocent in it


[15-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Serenity#9645
have you been arrested? i have, i shut up and sat in the car. i got charged as i was guilty.


[15-Aug-20 10:13 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
i've been arrested as well. it's easier to go along with it than to fight back


[15-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Serenity#9645
he pretty much lept out and said hold me on the ground and resisted from the initial tap on the car to the knee


[15-Aug-20 10:14 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
the process can be quick and painless when dealing with cops


[15-Aug-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
someone in a paniced state isnt going to be thinking straight


[15-Aug-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially not after having a gun shoved in their face


[15-Aug-20 10:16 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
have you ever been in a panicked state when around cops while being arrested?


[15-Aug-20 10:16 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I have, it's scary, but at the same time I know it's better to listen


[15-Aug-20 10:16 PM] ononim#8141
Yes


[15-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Serenity#9645
have you had a gun to your face? i feel safer with a cop doing it then a skinhead im selling drugs to


[15-Aug-20 10:16 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
yes I have had a gun to my face


[15-Aug-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
It is not fun being handled by the armed agents of the state that will probably be acquitted if they harm you


[15-Aug-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
https://apnews.com/9ba6d114f9aa91680e48fbca2fec14b9

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Belarus leader says Russia willing to help counter protests
MINSK, Belarus (AP) — Thousands of demonstrators in Belarus took to the streets again Saturday to demand that the country's authoritarian leader resign after a presidential vote they called...
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[15-Aug-20 10:17 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
body cams exist, I'm happy they do


[15-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Serenity#9645
i didnt live a good early life, i cleaned up and now work on aircraft electronics and dont wanna go back to that.


[15-Aug-20 10:17 PM] ononim#8141
Oh boy!


[15-Aug-20 10:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police dont tend to keep their body cams on when they intend to do crime


[15-Aug-20 10:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and the departments arent really enforcing the body cam thing


[15-Aug-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
panic: noun
sudden uncontrollable fear or anxiety, often causing wildly unthinking behavior.


[15-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Serenity#9645
no lie i sold skinhead weed to black city people cus it was "good weed". they would shoot blacks and police if they drove there, that was my regular but real money was made by cross state hard drugs, my firebird i modified to have a compartment above the gas take that was air-sealed under the back seat. i got caught.


[15-Aug-20 10:21 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
definitions don't fully define human nature and how we react. I can be in a panicked state but realize what's wrong and right at the same time


[15-Aug-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fear is not the same as panic


[15-Aug-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that's you


[15-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Serenity#9645
just a warning dont goto briceville. im scared going there cus the neo-nazis cus im gay. but damn it was good money well i was underage and homeless


[15-Aug-20 10:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
and yet, everyone seems to think that all cops think alike.


[15-Aug-20 10:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
i'm different then you


[15-Aug-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and everyone seems to think all panicked people think alike


[15-Aug-20 10:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
cops are different from each other


[15-Aug-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s different levels of panic


[15-Aug-20 10:23 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I'm not going to go back to that horrid mindset i had 13 years ago where I screamed ACAB's


[15-Aug-20 10:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not even talking about ACAB


[15-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Serenity#9645
the panic of being seated in a back seat enough to kick out of it multable times is immense more then most, maybe we need to teach people more to keep your mouth shut and sit down more. it was entirely preventable, how many times did the cop need to say i dont wanna shoot/kill you did he need to say? how many times does he need to reach somewhere that isnt the wheel or head to be a threat cus i watched police get shot for a normal traffic stop, main reason i never had a firearm well running and always complied.


[15-Aug-20 10:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I dont want to shoot/kill you" thne dont start the envoutner with a gun when the call was for a stupid counterfeit bill


[15-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Serenity#9645
then dont have a record of holding a gun to a pregnant womans stomach and that might not be the responce?


[15-Aug-20 10:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they didnt even know who it was before the encounter


[15-Aug-20 10:28 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
wasn't Floyd on bail?


[15-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Serenity#9645
he was in a car, they can look at tags, he was the driver, his girlfriend/wife/female there even told him to not resist


[15-Aug-20 10:29 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
if someone has been arrested by cops in the past then it's a high chance the cops will recognize the person when they encounter them again


[15-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Serenity#9645
id like to argue that tiddy, its a big city they cant reconise them all


[15-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Serenity#9645
expectually with how old it was


[15-Aug-20 10:30 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
true, but looking at his license and id would ring him up in the system


[15-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Serenity#9645
id say more tags but i can agree


[15-Aug-20 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
*looks both ways*


[15-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
```Oh boy!```
oh boy indeed... Welp.


[15-Aug-20 10:35 PM] ononim#8141
ah, at least someone noticed my link lol


[15-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe we will see russian bases back in Belarus after all.


[15-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
russians bases in belarus never left tho


[15-Aug-20 10:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*oh good*, russias getting involved


[15-Aug-20 10:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_military_bases_abroad#Current_bases

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List of Russian military bases abroad
This article lists military bases of Russia abroad. The majority of Russia's military bases and facilities are located in former Soviet republics; which in Russian political parlance is termed the "near abroad".
Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, many of the early-...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Russian_troops_in_Armenian_parade.jpg


[15-Aug-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
they got some limits a couple years ago.


[15-Aug-20 10:37 PM] Opponent#3498
like in 2017 or *18, was a pretty weird move.


[15-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Opponent#3498
or was it a reversal of an agreement to build a new one... Don't remember tbh :<


[15-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Opponent#3498
probably a reversal then.


[15-Aug-20 10:41 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
What about the American ones?


[15-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Serenity#9645
im with the polish on this one fuck any russian outreach, they need to prove they have changed from the 70s. the russian federation is better the soviets but needs to prove more. china is more of a threat with its allies giving me the feel of the cold war again


[15-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Opponent#3498
they changed but not in the way you think :twismug:


[15-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Serenity#9645
american-russian embassys or bases?


[15-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Serenity#9645
to natural


[15-Aug-20 10:44 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Who's polish?


[15-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Serenity#9645
i have many polish friends, i dont think they are here, but im more with germany next to them


[15-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Serenity#9645
polish people hate putin and really hate communism with good cause, germany changed majorly russia didnt for a long time


[15-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Serenity#9645
east germany is a shithole because of them, but they almost feel like they forgot. but poland didnt neither did far east germany


[15-Aug-20 10:48 PM] NaturalNat🇯🇵#5703
Poland been beat up ever before that during the tsar times


[15-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah poland has always been a punching bag, i can understand the 1/4 of the economy of germany


[15-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
What about Russian economy


[15-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Serenity#9645
russia is russia fuck their politics even if they have awesome people living there i wish i could take all my friend there to poland and hang out


[15-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Serenity#9645
i know many people from the my russian pony community cus one of my polish friend used to animate there


[15-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's clearly better than the shitshow of the 90ies, but otherwise... It doesn't look too good, but neither does it here yet we're surviving *shrug*. I don't know enough to really judge and don't want to regurgitate anti-Russia memes.


[15-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It is better than 90s but that's not enough, how could a country that owns billions barrels of oil can have such shitty economy


[15-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Serenity#9645
but to answer you question i dont know russian economics they never told me them like the polish are. polish people will happily say they work in germant and live in poland cus its so much cheeper to live there and they like it just living eastern is shit cus the economics suck bad


[15-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because oil equivalent to US billionares


[15-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
with one marked difference. Oil is a real physical product, while US is built on stock speculation which is... much more transient.


[15-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. It looks very similar.


[15-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And the oil does not belong to country or people


[15-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Serenity#9645
just as a disclosure, i like to talk to people about these things then listen to propaganda. so i am going off voice opinion that i see more pure then what media puts out.


[15-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh yeah this is reasonable. Personal opinions outside of an echo chamber have pretty good value due to their diversity.


[15-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The one thing I like about comments section in news articles


[15-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Serenity#9645
there maybe some bias, but not going to lie i was suprised when polish people liked me even tho i was gay, being told that if i went there (and i did for work) i would be called a fag and be less then human, it was quite the opposite, even tho they have anti-gay laws


[15-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But I prefer to keep out of comment section. It has trainload of salt


[15-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am not kidding. The comment section will convince for sure that you need to immigrate.


[15-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah comments sections and forums involving politics are completely biased and will call for extreme things cus you cant reply fastly and will result in a imbalance. unlike a group chat or 1on1 chat that you can express your opinions freely without threat of being banned


[15-Aug-20 11:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not trying to start a debate with this, i just found this hilarious https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-whiner-whining-president-2015-8

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Donald Trump: 'I am the most fabulous whiner'
"I'm a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win."
https://i.insider.com/55c9e4882acae700448bc83a?width=1200&format=jpeg


[15-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Serenity#9645
id like to read have a no paywall version?


[15-Aug-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/250805-trump-i-am-the-most-fabulous-whiner

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Trump: 'I am the most fabulous whiner'
Trump says he whines because he wants to win.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_071815getty.jpg


[15-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Well, I have talked to people in person on the subject and one of them talked *exacly* like salty comments section. While in general everyone avoid it.


[15-Aug-20 11:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sorry, i have a paywall blocker so sometimes i dont know if something is paywalled when i find it via google


[15-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Just include 1st paragraph for people who lazy to click links, like me.


[15-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Serenity#9645
“I am a whiner, and I'm a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win. I want to win for our country, and I'm going to make our country great again,” Trump said on CNN.

“Our country right now is a debtor nation, we have airports that are third-world airports, we have roadways that are falling apart, we have bridges that are coming down and that are unsafe,” Trump added. 

well i dont like the word whiner i do understand where he is coming from, id not like 3rd world airports expectually cus i work at them


[15-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Serenity#9645
the airport im working at now uses a diesal generator to work on them instead of wall power that even across my work in germany uses


[15-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Serenity#9645
not gonna lie is a big reason i wanna go back and am sceduled to go there 2021, cus woking in airports suck in the US


[15-Aug-20 11:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what does Trump propose to fix that problem of infrastructure?


[15-Aug-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you can thank our secretary of transportation for the lack of an infrustructure budget. She funnels it all to her husband mitch for kentucky


[15-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Serenity#9645
if that is true then fuck them, trump should work to better inftustructure. so good on him for calling it out, now just do something about it trump


[15-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.enr.com/articles/48663-trump-floats-1-trillion-infrastructure-plan-but-fy21-budget-has-some-cuts Trump apparently had this bill as a proposal but i dont know where it went beyond being a proposal

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Trump Floats $1-Trillion Infrastructure Plan, But FY21 Budget Has S...
Plan's centerpiece is $810-billion highway-transit reauthorization, not fully funded.
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[15-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also gutted more of the EPA budget


[15-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
```And what does Trump propose to fix that problem of infrastructure?```
whine more. It's the one thing he can supply freely.


[15-Aug-20 11:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:shrugpony:


[15-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Serenity#9645
well its better to whine for good then to be apposed to it


[15-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, the hosue passed the bill and it;s now on mcconnell;s desk in the pile of hosue bills that need to go to senate thAT HE;s ignoring


[15-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/03/senate-sleeps-on-house-democrats-15-trillion-infrastructure-bill-heres-why-its-doomed/#6b6b2d8f6ee8

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Senate Sleeps On House Democrats’ $1.5 Trillion Infrastructure Bill...
Republicans ridiculed the bill and vowed it would die in the Senate.
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[15-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Serenity#9645
sounds about right, im becoming more opposed to democrats in recent years its like they dont care about workers anymore...


[15-Aug-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mcconnell is a republican


[15-Aug-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he's the one holding up the bill


[15-Aug-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the hosue democrats passed the infrustructure bill


[15-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Serenity#9645
i also have always been oposed to republicans and their do nothingness


[15-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Serenity#9645
well good on the democrats!


[15-Aug-20 11:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, no, the democrats are the do-nothings, whereas republicans work day after day to actively make things worse

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[15-Aug-20 11:40 PM] Serenity#9645
as long as they didnt sneak the green bill into it, then fuck democrats


[15-Aug-20 11:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except they havent done nothing, they;ve passed aorund 600 bills or so in the hosue, mcconnell has held them all up on his desk with no hope of ever being reviewed so long as he is the senate majority leader


[15-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Serenity#9645
well fuck him if it truely helps the american people fuck him, i just know that democrats like to sneak stuff into these bills too that would kill my job too, truthfully fuck them both


[15-Aug-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait, how does green energy kill your job as an aircraft repairman?


[15-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Serenity#9645
green new deal - limits air travel, air isnt exactly clean to fix or operate,  thus effecting maintenance cus i need power.


[15-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Serenity#9645
im all for green energy germany sells if off for a loss, but killing it in the US now would kill and hamper jobs it needs to be a  slow implimantation, the US is way bigger then germany and places dont have the infilstructure to implement it


[15-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Serenity#9645
yesterday i burnt trough i think 20 gallons of  JP-8 to fix a medical helicopter


[15-Aug-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we might have had that slow implamentation by now if it werent for several decades of oil lobbying


[15-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Serenity#9645
i agree. but it does cost alot and we are slowly going there


[15-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah the biggest legitimate issue about Green New Deal I've seen the rep side discuss was how it was _way_ overambitious. However, that was it's '18 iteration.


[15-Aug-20 11:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i doubt any new bill regarding green energy is going to be instant, it would liekly have a build up period to get everything adjusted


[15-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Serenity#9645
wither its obama or trump or anyone else, we now have solar powered homes here, just not aircraft repair, and aircraft cant run off of electricity alone. but maintinance can its slowly getting there


[15-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'd think it would help air travel tbh. Mass switching to electric cars would make air travel alot more easy to fuel for. Also that new fusion reactor built in france is going to change the game so so much. I'm very excited for Fusion.


[15-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Opponent#3498
true. That is the future. It has to be.


[15-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Serenity#9645
maybe fusion could do it, but aircraft is a very fine tuned thing that has lives in the balance, it cant get rid of diesel in close times


[15-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
aircraft is at most single digit percent of fuel consumption anyway.


[15-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also could it be possble for things like sesnas and helicopters to be electric powered? Electric moders can make tork enough to get air born?


[15-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's not much of a concern.


[15-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Serenity#9645
everything has 2x of the system it makes if 2x harder to find and fix.


[15-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
current electric motors have power to weight ratios worse than conventional, plus the power source. Plus you can't pour electricity out of a can. It's fine for a car, a city car especially, worse for an off-road, even worse for aircraft.


[15-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Serenity#9645
green new deal really limits aircraft maintinace and operation, thus my job


[15-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
a heli in particular _must_ be refuelable anywhere.


[15-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Opponent#3498
and weight is a huge concern for an airborn vehicle


[15-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fair point. But there would be plenty of fuel to go around if say 20% of all gas cars today where now electric. So that would help air travle grow


[15-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Serenity#9645
ok current electric motors can get you how far in a car? we have them in aircraft. but not the main sourse. how far can they get you in a helicopter? thats the problem, fuel is a better weight to power ratio. it works in helicopters


[15-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Serenity#9645
i drive a hybrid car, it can get me 600-800 miles on the ground with 25$ of fuel, how many miles can you go in a hybrid helicopter at the same price?


[15-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not shure. Was just mainly thinking out loud as an idea.


[15-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Serenity#9645
it takes JP-8 diesel and it can take you about the same but with like 100x (estimate) the cost. if it was purely electric like my car without gas tanks it wouldnt get off the ground, ok more batteries,  maybe a few miles at most?


[16-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Serenity#9645
thats the problem, maybe fusion can fix it, but right now the best wight to fuel ratio is diesel, so all the airplanes and helicopters run on it, almost all vehicles in germany run off it


[16-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fair enough.


[16-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Serenity#9645
it would be a better investment to start into hybrid-diesel then to abolsh fuel all together untill we have the infilstructure to facilitate full electric. even then we have to wait to charge even with tesla fast charge every 200 some miles


[16-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Serenity#9645
green new deal severly inhibits air travel and ground travel, its like -how dare you- saying we should not use fual at all right now and then gas operated places freeze to death


[16-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Serenity#9645
i work on electronics not fuel or engines and i can see how this will hurt me and everyone that wants to travel


[16-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Serenity#9645
im not anti-electric, full electric and my hybrid are fast compared to my old cars, have way less problems, and are awesome as can be! its just impractical and truely anti-poor


[16-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Serenity#9645
if i was told my gas guzzleing first car i couldnt drive id never get out of being poor, id never be able to afford a full electric or hybrid. there is so much electronics i work on id never be where i am. but maybe the future can change and i am hopeful


[16-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No no I'm not saying ban all fuel. We need time to slowly switch to mostly electric. We can still have fuel for heat, air travel and space travel


[16-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Serenity#9645
well the green new deal is against that, in germany its water heating mostly, america is behind


[16-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Serenity#9645
i want america to be where germany is, it may not be as effective but it is better and the government has its perks of it


[16-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
The US is very much behind. And I'm not saying the green new deal has everything perfect. It does have alot of stuff we need tho


[16-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And yes the us should be like Germany. The system germany has is just better then the us in everyway.


[16-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Serenity#9645
it has farming wrong from a impossibility, it has fuel wrong from a physical science. it mostly is bad.


[16-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Serenity#9645
but we can be better without the extremes


[16-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Serenity#9645
the US is already better then most, but it still has catch-up. quit beating yourself up, china is what 50x worse or more?


[16-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
China and India are way way worse then any western nation. Sadly i don't see anyway to fix that from here


[16-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
China is ruled by an crazy tyrant who baned whinni the pooh beacuse he looks like him


[16-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Serenity#9645
doesnt mean stop trying to be better, it just means try stuff that wont hurt human life or economy cus ive seen ravaged economies, you dont wanna live there other then being priory rich


[16-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
India kinda is screwed up. But of course we aren't going to give up.


[16-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Serenity#9645
i can guarantee you and what the government gives you or what you make at mcdonalds or a good job, would be rich in poland from the US...


[16-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Serenity#9645
and that is maybe not as progressive but pretty modern call it 2nd world


[16-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Tree planting chartys are one way to lower carbon emissions.

I give to this one in particular https://treecanada.ca/

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[16-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
It's a slow process but it is something


[16-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Serenity#9645
poland and germany have plenty of trees, not much of a problem (poland more so)


[16-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Serenity#9645
i may not have stats but im going of personal experience, take with a grain of salt


[16-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Thats good but more trees is allways better. You can't really ever have enough trees. Every tree cuts down on carbon by alot so more is allways better.


[16-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Serenity#9645
can you fix that its kinda hard to understand?


[16-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Serenity#9645
sorry its just kinda hard to read for me, i dont mean to be demeaning


[16-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Serenity#9645
i maybe disconnected abit but why is the guy covering his eyes?


[16-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ah ok. There is no such thing as too much trees. You allways need more of them.


[16-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That guy is Ben Shaprio, US conservative speaker and liveing meme, who recently said on twiter that women being "wet" is a medical problem.


[16-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree, in germany we prise castles with trees like they did many years ago, we have gartens for them, and riding on the duetchebahn you pass by fields for food and many trees


[16-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Serenity#9645
wait isnt ben shaprio a gay jew? im not a jew but i can understand the embaressment many germans are free with sex and i had many girls flurt with me and i get embaressed


[16-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Serenity#9645
some thought i didnt speak german and said some... um very dirty things....


[16-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Opponent#3498
would be hillarious if that turned out to be true and his marriage is just a cover to appeal to alt-rightish crowd. Not impossible really.


[16-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Serenity#9645
oh im mixing milo and ben aint i? my apologies


[16-Aug-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
milo is an utter moron


[16-Aug-20 12:39 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine just casually joking about being a pedophile on a nationally televised talk show interview and then doubling down after the fact


[16-Aug-20 12:40 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
wait, Ben is a liberal

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[16-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No


[16-Aug-20 12:40 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
when did he become conservative?

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[16-Aug-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
ben shapiro is a _grifter_


[16-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Serenity Looking at Power to Weight ratio, it seems electric motors are better, but not efficient.  That's why there is not much in mileage on single charge for electric cars.


[16-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah milo is a non-regular gay, not cus he likes black people but because it makes his life. gay people are people not a exception. the wierd im gay so i must wear dildo dresses and shout to people to be gay like me doest sit right with me


[16-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
@Эᴚ|∫ right, so I was half-wrong. Fair enough.


[16-Aug-20 12:41 AM] byte[]#2610
that's not quite right


[16-Aug-20 12:42 AM] byte[]#2610
electric motors have an excellent P:W, the problem is that battery technology is awful and there's no way to get a stable voltage without using massive amounts of metal and electrolyte

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[16-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Exactly


[16-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Serenity#9645
electric motors are better at not breaking then fuel, thats why i love them, but power to wight is not efficient. im sorry if i confused you


[16-Aug-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
that's why even though EVs have basically nothing under the hood they still weigh like 3 tonnes


[16-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems the _actual_ true new technological era would begin with new battries.


[16-Aug-20 12:44 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
> Diesel engine on aircraft
Did you mean turbine engines?


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Serenity#9645
i wish for better batteries, i really do , but the better batteries are volatile, maybe if they were contained but more weight and more problems


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Great engine for aircraft, horrible for ground.


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Serenity#9645
yes turbine aircraft use JP-8 a diesel jet fuel


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
what better batteries...


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Serenity#9645
also agreed look for the firebird concept that melted cars behind it lol


[16-Aug-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
the best tech right now is lithium cobalt


[16-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There were living concepts of turbine trucks, it failed due to massive fuel consumption


[16-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Serenity#9645
how much lethium cobalt is there, how much to produce, how much to release world wide. how volitile?


[16-Aug-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
that's the tech that's already being used right now


[16-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Serenity#9645
again how much cost, how scarse, how volatile?


[16-Aug-20 12:48 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Guess I'm out of the loop because I recall a talk I had with someone a few weeks back with a friend on the left that quoted Ben saying "less government makes for a better democracy"


[16-Aug-20 12:48 AM] byte[]#2610
cobalt is a rare metal and is mostly extracted by china (suspected slave labor)


[16-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Serenity#9645
im not denying the future, i want to progress, but how can we make it? how practical?


[16-Aug-20 12:50 AM] byte[]#2610
the best and most pragmatic way to power our things may be identical to what we're already doing


[16-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Serenity#9645
exactly... were not post scarecity, thats why i like fuels its scarse but practical, use it where it needs it like aircraft untill we evolve. when i at my apartment can charge my car to goto work and go home can drive a EV ill buy one for now im hybrid all the way.


[16-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Serenity#9645
also for driving home im 1000 miles from home, there isnt a good case to charge at slow chargers for that long trek


[16-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Serenity#9645
expectably when im in germany i lived there for years, and plan on living there what if i wanna see my family? the us has charging stations germany has few, none the less ones to cross seas


[16-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Serenity#9645
we will evolve, but now we have what we got... i wish it was better but reality hits hard


[16-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I would get electric car, it has massive advantages for everyday use. Way cheaper than petrol and we are talking about ~150l per month. Minus maintenance.


[16-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree, i get a whole month out of petrol with my hybrid. but in a apartment i cant with a EV i gotta goto the next town over to charge for x amount of time... were not there yet


[16-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Serenity#9645
we will get there but banning petrol and diesel will put us so far back and kill people


[16-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
some calculations say that it cost me less than $1 per trip, instead of $6.


[16-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Serenity#9645
dont get me wrong i want to progress, but some cant. a ban would kill people...


[16-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Serenity#9645
if i could charge my car at home, id have a EV.


[16-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Govts here charge extra for electric cars does not help adaption


[16-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
For now, electric and hybrid cars are for rich.


[16-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Serenity#9645
idk where your at but in the US they had a buyback for gas hogs to goto efficent petrol and hybrid and EVs


[16-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
South Africa to be exactly.


[16-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Serenity#9645
i may not agree with obama in the US as it destroyed rare old cars, but it is for the better


[16-Aug-20 01:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We import these cars and it levied at customs accordingly


[16-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Serenity#9645
in germany we have excemptions of rare old cars cus they are cool! i want to see them and drive them and i have. but new cars are daily drivers and should be put to progress


[16-Aug-20 01:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[16-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Serenity#9645
i have a 71 opel GT T-top in germany and id hate if they crushed that, but i drive a old opel D3 diesel manual over there it gets better gas milage then modern stuff


[16-Aug-20 01:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No limitations here, but petrol price puts everything in its places and given that travelling 50km one way is norm.


[16-Aug-20 01:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Including traffic jams


[16-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Serenity#9645
diesel is like 2x more expensive in germany then the US, and most modern cars have the turn off engine feature at stops cus in cities you will


[16-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Serenity#9645
(i work on cars too, thats hell on the starter so some wins some losses)


[16-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Diesel maintenace costs are high compared to petrol


[16-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Serenity#9645
in germany diesel the norm, in america its petrol that is cheeper


[16-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Serenity#9645
i can understand the higher cost tho, glow plugs and comression is alot harder then spark plugs and petrol


[16-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No, because there very few specialists and they charge business rates, aka truck service for a light vehicle.


[16-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
@>That Guy that's basicly the dem crowd version of reps backing Trump :P


[16-Aug-20 01:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yep


[16-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Serenity#9645
thats kinda fucked, id charge price of parts plus time, not buisness price...


[16-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Serenity#9645
but again germany has alot of technical people there, so it isnt hard to find a person who can fix


[16-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's sort of abusing situation.


[16-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Serenity#9645
i know how to fix a house and a car, most people i know in germany do too, cus they work on their own stuff and learn it early. its hard to keep a building from the 1800s good. i think america lost that a long time ago... i cant speak for south africa but its sad


[16-Aug-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
American homes are not durable


[16-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Serenity I thought it is STRICTLY forbidden to DIY in Germany?


[16-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Serenity#9645
i agree, and the politics in the permissions to work on your own place is stupid, in germany we work on our own apartments, the landloard says thanks and might even help finantually in the reapir cus the apartment costs more when you leave


[16-Aug-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
regarding auto-stop-start, the starters are specifically designed to bear the extra load of having to frequently turn over the engine in city traffic, and they save a lot of fuel if you stop frequently


[16-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What about battery discharge for starter?


[16-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Serenity#9645
i know that but still its way more falures then just a regular starter. i might not have a source but experience. so grain of salt


[16-Aug-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
the engine charges a supercap for the auto stop start


[16-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
ah, ok


[16-Aug-20 01:19 AM] Serenity#9645
a better material for a starter cog will not fix the problem of moving parts, thats why a EV is so much better fewer moving parts


[16-Aug-20 01:19 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Stilll batteries is a problem


[16-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Serenity#9645
and it isnt even the cog its the engaging action, the electronic push of the cog to hit the flywheel is what fails way more.


[16-Aug-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yes


[16-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed batteries havent found a good stable way to store, thats why its a really bad range vs hybrids


[16-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And low service life


[16-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i want to push twords progression but theres only so much you can do till the weight outweighs the power


[16-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Serenity#9645
its why hydrogen power isnt good, you can produce it, but its so volatile there are so many safeties and even without the safeties there wight of the cylinders are crazy so you wont get much power


[16-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Serenity#9645
petrol and even more diesel are the best weight to power you can get, with hybrid electric being more. cus the extra electronic can power it. full electronic kinda sucks in the states cus its so big, but they have the most charging stations, it would work in germany but it isnt threre like the US


[16-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Serenity#9645
germany could do full electric but so much infilstructute needs to be made. the US is so big it needs to be everywhere for travel. its close but close enough and germany needs to adapt there


[16-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Serenity#9645
many i know are green and animal party there, they want to progress on woodland creatures safety and clean air, or clean air for all. but without advances like the US we wont have mass EVs like the states, people have teslas here like a sports car, dont travel far but is super cool and a status symbol.


[16-Aug-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/512190-trump-on-esper-i-consider-firing-everybody

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[16-Aug-20 01:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[16-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Serenity funny, it looks like situation with Apple. In US everyone has it, everywhere else it is status symbol.
So far, here electric and hybrid cars are for rich, either it is BMW or Mersedes targeted at luxury market.


[16-Aug-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/512136-pressure-builds-on-us-to-respond-to-brutal-crackdown-in-belarus

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Pressure builds on US to respond to brutal crackdown in Belarus
The U.S.
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[16-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
They show amazing l/100km


[16-Aug-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The U.S. is under increasing pressure to respond to a brutal crackdown on pro-Democracy protesters in Belarus demonstrating against a presidential election that handed another victory to a leader who has been in power for more than 25 years.
> 
> Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who has called the election of President Alexander Lukashenka “not free” and “not fair,” has signaled that the U.S. is looking to the European Union in how they will respond to the violence in Belarus, where at least two people were killed, hundreds injured by security forces and chilling reports of mass detentions and torture.
> 
> But the U.S. and the E.U. are unlikely to take any steps to try to remove Lukashenka, who claimed more than 80 percent of the vote.


[16-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Say typical car uses 7-9l/100km, while mercedes hybrid shown incredible 2.9l/100km.


[16-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Serenity#9645
Yeah it is kinda funny I've beer owned a apple in Germany nor a Mercedes in the states, too poor to buy them and never thought to buy them before going there cos I don't care about status sybols


[16-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Status symbol is for people who have been deprived previously.


[16-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Serenity#9645
I can be poor and buy Gucci, its a status symbol but really means nothing. Most people that are actually trying to be richer don't buy that stupid crop its a trap for people


[16-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Serenity#9645
I get a car means more then a expensive shirt or jewelry, but its still owned by mostly poorer people who want to seem like they are rich. But middle class and richer don't buy that crap


[16-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) I mean really, outside of an invasion, Belarus doesn't care much about anything else. And in EU people are (apparently?) sick of Russian sanctions already so that's not going to happen either.


[16-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
I still don't really expect much from this. The population can't overthrow him and nobody's interested in bankrolling that. It'll die down soon and be business as usual.


[16-Aug-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
why do people publish this trash https://i.imgur.com/XeGh0Dp.png

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[16-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Opponent#3498
he's their president for laifu.


[16-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Easy clickbait


[16-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] honestly I don't even mind if fringe communities fight each other. Vegans are dumb, culture appropriation is dumb, 'everything is racist' is dumb. Let them eat each other.


[16-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
links to articles like that spread like wildfire on reddit and tonnes of random "news" sites and FB groups


[16-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
it only spells trouble when it gets mainsteam.


[16-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Serenity#9645
I bought a Hyundai hybrid instead of a BMW or Toyota cut its thousand cheaper and had better warranties even being cheaper thats how middle class works we save money and don't need to prove that we are superior, I got lifetime battery replacement and a 10 year warrenty... not a name that makes me popular


[16-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> https://twitter.com/AdamKudyba/status/1294344291033243649 That's a powerful picture. Kaja Godek's rented trucks that drive around Warsaw and other Polish cities, spreading slander that LGBT people are paedophiles and wish to sexualise children, apparently enjoy special protection from the police. And the police executes the government's will. It's crystal clear where the govt's sympathies lie and what sentiments they share.
> 
> Reminder that Poland is the most homophobic country in the EU. There is a reason for that. Those trucks are part of it.
> I hope our Belarusian brothers and sisters are doing better...

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[16-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I participate in the hiring process at my job, and we always ask "So, why do you want to come work here?"


[16-Aug-20 02:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most people talk about how they like the company, or the city


[16-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Poles _always_ say "I want to get out of Poland"


[16-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Serenity#9645
I can agree the laws are not to tier and they do discriminate against gay people like me in adoption and words of marriage but I have civil rights of work there from working there. Most like my there even the fact im gay from personal experience. So if anything fight for equal rights and not against the people there


[16-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Moon Flower#6088
@Teaspoon You talk about Germany, right?


[16-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Am in Germany, yes


[16-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We get a lot of Polish applicants, relatively


[16-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Serenity#9645
Western polish apply to Germany to make more cus their economy sucks. I've heard that from many polish people.15 euro a hour is like 3-4ish euro a hour to them. I'm kinda wanting to go there because of that cus of the good people there and the cheep economy but I know I'll do better in Germany so I will probably work on aircraft there again especially cus I know enough German (not perfect) to live there


[16-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[16-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/belarus-president-putin-ready-ensure-security-200815183314584.html

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Belarus president says Putin ready to help 'ensure security'
Comments by President Alexander Lukashenko comes as thousands gather in Minsk to remember man killed during protests.
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[16-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Serenity#9645
the daily show link of youtube  isnt really a arguement but more or a slander against horrable harris if you wanna talk about her policies then sure but that video made me dumber by watching it. onto the next!


[16-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Moon Flower#6088
More than one got killed.


[16-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, who cares if it's one, a dozen or a hundred? It's a small price to preserve traditional Belarusian values, including having a President Lukashenko :D


[16-Aug-20 03:35 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> a small price
You must have major depression.


[16-Aug-20 03:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's being facetious


[16-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Also, even worse, hundreds and probably thousands get/got tortured, lost limbs, allegedly raped, and gaining mental traumas.


[16-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
well I do put life itself, in it's biological meaning, pretty low on value, but that wasn't quite what I meant here :P


[16-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Opponent#3498
this will be the narrative enforced in recent future. A terrible attack of the corrupt imperialist West has been thwarted with minimal casualties!


[16-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Soros!


[16-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
the effectiveness of this drivel in 2020 is another matter I suppose, but much like in Russia, not all that many have access to internet and know how to use it.


[16-Aug-20 03:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Soros, CIA, and EU sponsored agitators tried to start violent protests against the rightfully elected president, hoping the congregation would help spread COVID and unrest among the noble populace

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[16-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
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[16-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Didn't think this meme through, did they?


[16-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
could easily be intentional. Impossible to tell really.


[16-Aug-20 04:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
>Joepedo
>Joe Pedo


[16-Aug-20 04:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's too easy.


[16-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't this from a year ago?


[16-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Early March


[16-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which feels like a year ago


[16-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
SS... Fascist reference


[16-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Clever, very cleaver.


[16-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I doubt they were being clever, if they missed the "pedo" thing


[16-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
More likely they just removed the U to drive the point that Trump isn't uniting the country or something


[16-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Moon Flower#6088
S. S. just means to eat it.


[16-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfgkatTWAAALnCJ.jpg:large

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[16-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This was the brother Trump had that he actually had a good relationship with.


[16-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The other one he and his dad mocked, and is the reason Trump doesn't smoke/is a teetotaler.


[16-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Is there a meme unperceivable to me or why shouldn't he have liked his brother?


[16-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His other brother chose a career the family didn't like and was an alcoholic.


[16-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I can get the alcoholic part.


[16-Aug-20 05:12 AM] jlun2#8758
> chose a career the family didn't like
i thought that was the american dream tho? that you could be anything?


[16-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess the idea was "Why be a pilot when you can do real estate?"


[16-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Putin is American Dream, Trump is a wannabe. :p


[16-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Moon Flower#6088
(As in, Putin was a nothing and advanced up to being ruler of Russia while Donald Trump had a "small loan" of one million USD he probably didn't even pay back and which wasn't even the one and only thing he got from his father to start up.)


[16-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
it helped to be active right before and during the 90ies. That interesting time when dreams did sometimes come true.


[16-Aug-20 05:19 AM] jlun2#8758
its a parents duty to kill their kid's dreams :twiright:

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[16-Aug-20 05:28 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Our national medias are making propagandas about thrifting


[16-Aug-20 05:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I definitely don't think it's too soon to make this joke, but Robert Trump is the latest and greatest example of why being Donald Trump's best friend is hazardous to your health


[16-Aug-20 05:29 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
these days lots of stupid ass are wasting food on purpose to take tiktok videos


[16-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Moon Flower#6088
@WingbeatPony Did he die from COVID-19?


[16-Aug-20 05:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"undisclosed illness"


[16-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
> its a parents duty to kill their kid's dreams twiright
fuck that hits hard


[16-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Isn't thrifting about reusing stuff?


[16-Aug-20 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
thrifting is about saving money however you can


[16-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All of the thrift stores in the US realized that thrifting was a thing, educated their employees, and either make the good finds expensive or post it on eBay/Goodwill's auction site.


[16-Aug-20 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
using coupons is thrifty, not being wasteful is thrifty


[16-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Thrifting" to me means going to thrift stores.


[16-Aug-20 05:32 AM] jlun2#8758
reusing


[16-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I got a LaserDisc player for $20 once, and a boxed copy of Donkey Kong Country for $3.


[16-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Moon Flower#6088
And how does throwing away food save money?


[16-Aug-20 05:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no one's saying that, they're saying the opposite of that


[16-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> these days lots of stupid ass are wasting food on purpose to take tiktok videos
I thought this was related to the definition of thrifting.


[16-Aug-20 05:33 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
those guys on tiktok think wasting food on purpose is funny


[16-Aug-20 05:34 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
which makes our gov angry


[16-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Moon Flower#6088
There's more fun ways of wasting food in useful ways, to show effectiveness of helmets.


[16-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I think it is more perverse that - from what I heard - in the US supermarkets are required to burn the food that is past "best before" because they can be held liable if some rando steals from their trash and gets sick of it.


[16-Aug-20 05:38 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
i hope google to buy tiktok soon so this shit can be blocked


[16-Aug-20 05:38 AM] jlun2#8758
if only they had some way to prevent overstocking :ponythinking:


[16-Aug-20 05:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think twitter are the ones going after tiktok atm


[16-Aug-20 05:38 AM] jlun2#8758
just saving 1% of food would save tons of cash (they make billions collectively, so even 1% is millions)


[16-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah, a lot of places don't donate old food to homeless shelters anymore out of fear of liability.


[16-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Twitter really, really fucked up by shutting down Vine, btw


[16-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Moon Flower#6088
This is stupid. Super markets should be allowed to give away food that still is good.


[16-Aug-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it is not just grocery stores; restaurants and everything up the chain invokes some level of waste of perfectly edible food because it either isn't the right size to be machine processed, doesn't look appetizing, or literally spoils due to needing to keep the supply chain up


[16-Aug-20 05:40 AM] jlun2#8758
i never seen an ad on twitter. do they even make money


[16-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But at the same time, when buffets were a thing, the refuse from buffets goes to pig farms so


[16-Aug-20 05:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
twitter killed vine because instagram horned in on their market because there was nothing like it at the time


[16-Aug-20 05:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
vine kinda limped along as an archive for a while


[16-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
There's space for a buffet documentary almost, I think COVID-19 has killed the concept. It as a concept existed entirely between two once in a century pandemics.


[16-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It is an important restaurant style and worth documenting before it dies


[16-Aug-20 05:42 AM] jlun2#8758
given all the covid doubters im sure it'll come back in some form or another with changes


[16-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Is waste cooking a thing in the US?


[16-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The buffet doesn't make any sense. The cafeteria or the revival of the automat does.


[16-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Automats already functionally have been reborn.


[16-Aug-20 05:44 AM] jlun2#8758
automat buffet


[16-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Opponent#3498
what's the meaning of those three? I know these words have directly migrated to russian, but not their meaning in your context


[16-Aug-20 05:45 AM] jlun2#8758
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Vendingautomaat_warme_snacks_Efteling.jpg

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[16-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I was about to say Automat is probably German. (And buffet French.)


[16-Aug-20 05:46 AM] jlun2#8758
its like a vending machine with precooked food


[16-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Automat is "pick stuff from behind a vending machine"


[16-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Moon Flower#6088
It's vending machines.


[16-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Buffet is "stuff in front of you on warming pans you pick out yourself"


[16-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cafeteria is the same but someone puts it on a plate for you.


[16-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Moon Flower#6088
There's self-service caféteria, though.


[16-Aug-20 05:48 AM] jlun2#8758
how self service? is it robot arm? or is it "a machine you click a button & it pops out food like vending machine"


[16-Aug-20 05:48 AM] Moon Flower#6088
It opens the door or drops it.


[16-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[16-Aug-20 05:49 AM] jlun2#8758
oh. not https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/country-garden-opens-china-first-fully-robotic-restaurant-in-guangzhou rip

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[16-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Moon Flower#6088
So are you telling us there are not many vending machines anymore in the US?


[16-Aug-20 05:51 AM] jlun2#8758
there are, but its for snacks & drinks; not fast food


[16-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Where my Belgian friend lives, there are the occasional bread vending machines.


[16-Aug-20 05:52 AM] jlun2#8758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G92X4er1jwQ
moving is super hard to this day :ts_cry:

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Ice cream machine fail
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[16-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Moon Flower#6088
And to me normal vending machines have also sandwiches, coffee machines often offer soups.


[16-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Also ice cream vending machines are a thing, not spohisticated like that one who *tries* to prepare it itself.


[16-Aug-20 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
i hope someone checks those sandwhichs every now & then


[16-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Sandwiches are most often the ones that are packaged in a way that it keeps for weeks or even months.


[16-Aug-20 05:55 AM] Moon Flower#6088
You know, toast bread slices.


[16-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Reminds me of this now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3A61kAGr8

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Fry Buys an Egg Salad Sandwich
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[16-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I would have thought that in the land of capitalism vending machines would be more popular besides snacks and drinks.


[16-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Not much maintenance, no vendor. Just machine and throwing in money. Bonus points if machine doesn't offer return.


[16-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Pickup trucks


[16-Aug-20 06:02 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Those egg sandwiches gave him worms


[16-Aug-20 06:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The large amount of people owning pickup trucks means much easier for someone to just load it up and go


[16-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When I visited Spain last about a year ago I did notice that a lot of small commercial properties were being turned into vending machine halls


[16-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Basically stuff that used to be tiny shops and such being converted into a room lined with various large vending machines


[16-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Embedded into the walls


[16-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Like these,

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[16-Aug-20 06:06 AM] PwnyPony#6185
What do you do when something gets stuck in them?


[16-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Tough luck.


[16-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You go fuck yourself, yeah


[16-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Moon Flower#6088
In such situations you usually don't have time or patience to wait for resolution by calling a phone number and wait for someone.

But if there is some kind of employee around, then you can go there.

But yeah, such establishments are probably mostly left unattended like machines in the wild or bakeries' bread vending machines during night.


[16-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, there's no one there


[16-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Someone comes at 6AM or the like to restock and is there for maybe an hour, and that's it


[16-Aug-20 06:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
panda express is the unfortunate "future" of chinese buffet stuff


[16-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meanwhile, people complain about immigrants taking their jobs


[16-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Moon Flower#6088
kek


[16-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
When the only jobs they're allowed is under the table fruit picking out in the fields and housed in sheds


[16-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Since automatation of the industries it's machines. Since digitalisation robots. And laziness, as in not doing the "dirty" work because they themselves wouldn't even get out of bed for 5€.


[16-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```panda express is the unfortunate "future" of chinese buffet stuff```
any details? Googling doesn't give me too much, besides it being an international chain with branches even in our backwater.


[16-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Moon Flower#6088
i have 0 idea what panda express is


[16-Aug-20 06:23 AM] Opponent#3498
@WingbeatPony


[16-Aug-20 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh it's a drive-through fast food chain that serves very americanized chinese food in a "pick 3 things and we stick them in a platter" format


[16-Aug-20 06:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like a mall food court or a school cafeteria lunch


[16-Aug-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the food is...not great. But the service is fast.


[16-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's American-Chinese food.


[16-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
huh. Wonder how that turns out over here.


[16-Aug-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, somehow even less authentic than the americanized fare you find standard in every chinese takeout place across the country

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[16-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What even is "chinese food" these days


[16-Aug-20 06:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It has soy sprouts and those tiny little corns... good enough!


[16-Aug-20 06:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's a very interesting question which involves the chinese ~~mafia~~ restaurant association


[16-Aug-20 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, there's a reason why every chinese food place in the US has the same menu and the same general look and feel


[16-Aug-20 06:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Chinese food is just American food.


[16-Aug-20 06:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
America is the only place in the world you can find most "Chinese foods".


[16-Aug-20 06:31 AM] Moon Flower#6088
inb4 Chinese mafia knocking at your door


[16-Aug-20 06:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's basically a franchise except you get to name your restaurant yourself, off of a helpful list of words


[16-Aug-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it is the most fully realized example of the American dream I have ever seen


[16-Aug-20 06:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I went to one once and it was owned by people from Thailand, hence 80% of the menu was Thai food even though all decoration was Chinese


[16-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They also served pho, which was odd.


[16-Aug-20 06:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
these guys will (or have) taken first-generation immigrants and been like, "you need a job? We will help you make a restaurant. Learn these recipes, go through these suppliers, and you too can become a successful american"


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and so they do, and they remain stuck at that point on the economic ladder until they retire


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Despite your race, color, creed, etc, orange chicken is delicious and there's no shame in it


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Over here in Berlin there are a lot of "mexican" restaurants where you start asking for food in Spanish and the server blanks out


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>Mexican restaurant in Europe


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And then you realize they're pakistani and just got the job because they have darker skin and it's all the same


[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[16-Aug-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Please, TSP, just tell me that the cowboy thing isn't such a big thing in germany anymore


[16-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I still see plenty of boomers wearing cowboy hats


[16-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I were in Berlin I'd want generic German food and currywurst


[16-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Currywurst is German, right?


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I have literally never heard of currywurst in my life that sounds cursed


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
For values of german


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Saumagen mit Sauerkraut. @Itsthinking


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also trash food


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just sausage with curry powder in it


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh well okay


[16-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Not in, on it.


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I really don't understand why german sausages are so famous


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I was imagining some horrible amalgamation of curried chicken and rice and sausage


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I presume it was created because British tourists wanted tikka masala in Germany


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Because Germans make a lot of sausages.


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So not far off


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes, and only like two types of them are good -_-


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If all of America is texas, then all of Germany is bavaria


[16-Aug-20 06:37 AM] illumnious#7938
holy shit https://t.co/yXidM0L6o0?amp=1

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[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] illumnious#7938
nigga ded


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, was announced dead a bit ago


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah he was in the ICU for a while and then died in the middle of a bunch of people dying after winding up in the ICU


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently ill for a few months


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Moon Flower#6088
@WingbeatPony *If all of America is USA then all of Europe is Germany


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] illumnious#7938
but how tho???


[16-Aug-20 06:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At 72 could be loads of things


[16-Aug-20 06:39 AM] illumnious#7938
Miss Rona isn't it


[16-Aug-20 06:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if it turns out that he had pneumonia of some sort then you're pretty much guaranteed to have people assuming it was


[16-Aug-20 06:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Germany is the US of Europe


[16-Aug-20 06:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think most EU countries have a region they consider to be the America of Europe


[16-Aug-20 06:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If we don't hear anything in the next couple of days about his cause of death, then that silence speaks VOLUMES.


[16-Aug-20 06:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, if it was literally anything else, literally anything other than pneumonia or covid, they'd be sure to get that story out front and center to stave off this speculation


[16-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless it was an STD


[16-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Moon Flower#6088
It could be privacy as well to not share it.


[16-Aug-20 06:43 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Who knows? Maybe Herman Cain will rise from the grave again to tweet about it


[16-Aug-20 06:43 AM] Moon Flower#6088
STD from a horse.


[16-Aug-20 06:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
honestly if what happened to Cain's online presence after his death wasn't evidence that the right is a literal death cult now, I don't know what is


[16-Aug-20 06:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Realization that Trump's account will survive Trump himself

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[16-Aug-20 06:46 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
clearly we need to weaponize the millenials again to kill twitter, too, but not before they snap up tiktok


[16-Aug-20 06:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or maybe, the moment he's not a world leader anymore, the spell will be broken and they'll finally ban his account


[16-Aug-20 06:47 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Weaponise millenials, kill online platform, context?


[16-Aug-20 06:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"millenials are killing the X industry" avocado toast nonsense


[16-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Millennials haven't killed Disney though


[16-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We have to hope the zoomers can escape that yoke


[16-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But Disney will just buy up whatever they find popular and milk it until they find the next new hotness


[16-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Disney buys out Halo


[16-Aug-20 07:06 AM] jlun2#8758
google buys disney :wheeze:


[16-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[16-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember, things can always get worse


[16-Aug-20 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay I'm calling shenanigans on this


[16-Aug-20 07:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, I really don't get how we have antitrust laws that don't cover situations like time warner merging with everything and whatnot


[16-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That was a real email shared in congress


[16-Aug-20 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, I know the email is real, I'm just saying the whole idea of mergers of companies this big is really sus


[16-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Disney bought most of FOX


[16-Aug-20 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
exactly


[16-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's stopped if not enough special interests and congressmen have stock invested


[16-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise lol money money money


[16-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Moon Flower#6088
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0CHAqVpIzIg

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Mr. Krabs:  Money Money Money (10 Hours)
Mr. Krabs:  Money Money Money (10 Hours)
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[16-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Didn't post original because gore.

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[16-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Break up big tech so hard it can never reform


[16-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Bell System breakup was a mistake


[16-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
These companies need to be crippled and forced to use standards that do not benefit them, but benefit consumers


[16-Aug-20 09:43 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
so no one knows what disease trump's brother dead of so far?


[16-Aug-20 10:09 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-snowden/trump-says-hes-considering-pardon-for-leaker-edward-snowden-idUSKCN25B10Z

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Trump says he is considering pardon for leaker Edward Snowden
President Donald Trump said on Saturday he is considering a pardon for Edward Snowden, the former U.S. National Security Agency contractor - now living in Russia - whose spectacular leaks shook the U.S. intelligence community in 2013.
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200815&t=2&i=1529771239&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG7E0M1


[16-Aug-20 10:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Cool, now stop considering and actually fucking do it


[16-Aug-20 10:11 AM] byte[]#2610
(nevermind that he previously called for Snowden to be executed)


[16-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't he say he should be exec-


[16-Aug-20 10:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://v.redd.it/o5ptn93uh9h51

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[16-Aug-20 10:21 AM] byte[]#2610
Every time https://i.redd.it/4m4krsze38h51.jpg

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[16-Aug-20 11:03 AM] Phelan#7647
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[16-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Crow#5457
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[16-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
I've got bad news for yall https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/235011011973742592/744326189325353020/image0.jpg

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[16-Aug-20 12:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/512203-longest-serving-illinois-governor-james-thompson-dies-at-84

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Longest-serving Illinois governor, James Thompson, dies at 84
Former Illinois Gov. James R. Thompson (R) died Friday evening at the age of 84.
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[16-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> Trump says he is considering pardon for leaker Edward Snowden
Honey pot much.


[16-Aug-20 12:34 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
> I've got bad news for yall https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/235011011973742592/744326189325353020/image0.jpg
@Smug Trixie If only

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[16-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You're pro Trump?


[16-Aug-20 12:35 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Nope lol


[16-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>trump wining pop vote

:wheeze: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Nice joke very funni

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[16-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
trump is incredibly unlikely to win the unpopular vote, he's likely to lose it by an even larger margin than he lost it last election


[16-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
but the electoral college doesn't give a shit about the popular vote, you just have to win certain states


[16-Aug-20 12:49 PM] byte[]#2610
the unpopular vote lmao


[16-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>imagine caring about what the majority of the population wanted


[16-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
fucking lmao XD

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[16-Aug-20 01:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[16-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Moon Flower#6088
in all honesty, though, as European who ordered stuff from the US in the past, I had always some kind of trouble with FedEX and UPS - unlike USPS who cooperates with the local post offices.


[16-Aug-20 01:19 PM] byte[]#2610
A strong irony is that Amazon might end up being a key player in preventing the total destruction of USPS


[16-Aug-20 01:20 PM] byte[]#2610
They ship a majority of their packages that way and losing them as a carrier would undoubtedly fuck with their expense model for free shipping


[16-Aug-20 01:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Trump loses by an even bigger margin with the popular vote and still wins because the electoral, then that's more proof that the electoral college has got to go


[16-Aug-20 03:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The first time Texas goes blue (an eventual inevitability) or Florida goes blue a few times in a row, Republicans will be calling to abolish the Electoral College


[16-Aug-20 03:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
And when that happens, we should let them. Popular vote is unambiguously the fairer model.


[16-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean if all else fails, go for the JFK technique.


[16-Aug-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[16-Aug-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-election-result-take-years-as-usps-attack-fears-grow-2020-8

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'Trump warns presidential election result may not be known for 'yea...
Trump has been accused by the Democrats of actively seeking to undermine the USPS as he groundlessly claims it's exposed to widespread voting fraud.
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[16-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not a unique sentiment. No matter what, if Rump loses, the fraud is on a histocal high and the people must come together to protect Democracy.


[16-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen that even on fucking pony channels.


[16-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
nice of him to spell it out directly for the slow ones in the back


[16-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If the results truly "aren't known for years" that doesn't mean he'll get to remain president after January


[16-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He was elected to one term. If for some reason the election results are *that* delayed, the presidency would legally be filled by the next person in line. There's some confusion over whether that would be Pelosi or someone else, but it wouldn't be Trump.


[16-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh do you think once he gets out of the president’s seat he’ll be arrested?


[16-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's rich, powerful, and half the government goes out of their way to protect him from any accountability. I wouldn't bet on it.


[16-Aug-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well they go out of their way because he has the pwoer right now, if you stripped him of the power, then thye would all abandon his ass


[16-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He'll leave the presidency, return to his golden tower, and live in freedom, angrily tweeting about his successor until he chokes on his last Big Mac.

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[16-Aug-20 06:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there;s also the fact thAT whoever is next if it isnt Trump will likely be replacing the entire cabinet, AG barr included


[16-Aug-20 06:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and even if he doesnt end up in prison, he'll be tied up in courts for decades


[16-Aug-20 06:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well "decades" being relative if he dies, the lawsuits will likely move onto his family


[16-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's going to be negatively depicted in media decades after his death, that's for sure.

Nixon was the pop-culture go-to "bad president" for a long time; from Watchmen to Futurama, he was living shorthand for political corruption. I'm absolutely sure Trump's supplanted him for that position for a long time coming.


[16-Aug-20 06:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there's also this usps sabotoge bullshit which is a literal federal crime, once he's out that shit follows his ass


[16-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
We'll see.


[16-Aug-20 06:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if he doesnt go to prison chances are atleast a dozen of his cronies will be


[16-Aug-20 06:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hopefully barr get's disbarred as an attorney


[16-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Crow#5457
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[16-Aug-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/16/facebook-algorithm-found-to-actively-promote-holocaust-denial

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Facebook algorithm found to 'actively promote' Holocaust denial
Similar content is also readily accessible across Twitter, YouTube and Reddit, says UK-based counter-extremist group
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[16-Aug-20 07:03 PM] byte[]#2610
Surprised pikachu.jpg


[16-Aug-20 07:21 PM] wren#0114
how is the algorithm "actively promoting" that?


[16-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It makes people mad and comment or share it


[16-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. it has high user engagement, thus more page views and ad impressions


[16-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's "good content"


[16-Aug-20 07:24 PM] wren#0114
but I mean they actively code it against that

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[16-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] Of course those attacking DB for a few pictures are those who are the true cesspits filled with Nazi and antisemitism. Twitter, Reddit, etc.
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[16-Aug-20 07:41 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I just learnt you can't type a message and then select a gif to attach to the message, gif will be posted immediately, stupid.


[16-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-futurama-gif-5319783

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[16-Aug-20 08:03 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The feeling you get when you try to tell someone that Mail in Ballots and Vote by mail are the same thing and they tell you no it isn't.


[16-Aug-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
person::bigbrain:


[16-Aug-20 08:07 PM] wren#0114
do they mean absentee for one of those


[16-Aug-20 08:07 PM] byte[]#2610
still the same thing


[16-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@wren Don't get the idea to convince them to vote at all.


[16-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Sally Moon#4922
@wren Yeah, sorry. They are telling me Trump is right when he is really wrong.


[16-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Ask him why Trump is suddenly wearing masks. :p


[16-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1295050523742175233

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[16-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You know if OANN starts bleeding Fox News of its paranoid base maybe that would force the news network to have some got dang standards.


[16-Aug-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
lol no


[16-Aug-20 08:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont think rupert murdoch would let that happen


[16-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS will just crank the crank dial up to compete

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[16-Aug-20 08:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you'll be seeing more of the hosts trying to drink lightbulbs and steak through a straw


[16-Aug-20 08:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-laura-ingraham-drinks-steak-impaled-with-lightbulbs-and-plastic-straws-to-own-the-libs/ for reference

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Fox News host Laura Ingraham engaged in several minutes of prop "comedy" when she attempted to "trigger" liberals with a plate of steak, incandescent light bulbs, and plastic straw
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[16-Aug-20 08:25 PM] jlun2#8758
im liberal-ish & confused on how is that triggering :roseconfused:


[16-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[16-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I feel kind of bad for Fox news having to fight tooth and nail to keep its constantly shrinking but highly motivated conservative voting block. When the median age of a Fox news viewer is 65 that is concerning for the future appeal of American conservatism.


[16-Aug-20 08:26 PM] byte[]#2610
steak (cattle agriculture) is comparatively very bad for the environment
incandescent lightbulbs are massively inefficient and waste electricity
plastic straws are a massive consumer waste problem and a marine biohazard


[16-Aug-20 08:27 PM] byte[]#2610
the point is to "trigger the libs"


[16-Aug-20 08:27 PM] jlun2#8758
the 1st thing i think of is not what u said, but "have fun in the ER"


[16-Aug-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it might have worked better if she groun d up the lightbulbs and used it as seasoning


[16-Aug-20 08:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt have triggered anyone but it would have been more edible


[16-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh the moment people started to really push to abolish _meat_ they'd lose my vote, and a vote of everyone I've ever known personally.


[16-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
this is not a concern here obviously; US is absolutely free to torture themselves :twismug:


[16-Aug-20 08:30 PM] jlun2#8758
3d print lab meat :twiright:


[16-Aug-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I... don't think anyone has asked for that


[16-Aug-20 08:31 PM] byte[]#2610
except maybe the real nutcase crazies


[16-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well, you did just list steak industry in the same breath as incand bulbs and plastic cutlery :P


[16-Aug-20 08:31 PM] jlun2#8758
me or opponent?


[16-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That Steak thing Moosebug said reminded me of a Frontline documentary that focused on why Farmers voted for Trump. One Farmer in California was upset that he had to ration water during drought season and even though Obama took the time out of his busy day to fly down there and tell the farmers that due to global warming his scientist advisors told Obama it had to be done. The farmer then straight up blow off global warming thinking Trump would somehow fix the problem by getting rid of the Water protection act of 2015.


[16-Aug-20 08:32 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon did it work


[16-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I don't know much about US TV. Is OANN even worse are actually better?


[16-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Worst much worst from what I heard


[16-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Opponent#3498
ouch. It's bad enough they had to ration water on industrial scale?


[16-Aug-20 08:34 PM] jlun2#8758
so i assume trump added more water protections?
@Moon Flower same; my tv is hogged for nintendo switch; news is from internet


[16-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
@jlun2 he probably doesn't even know such a plight exists. Or a problem that caused the issue.


[16-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
ignorance is power, apparently.


[16-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah water rationing had to be implemented during drought seasons and Obama loving the American people enough told them what they had to hear but some refuse to listen due to a perverted sense of freedom.


[16-Aug-20 08:35 PM] jlun2#8758
> ignorance is power
not for my grandpa rip


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] jlun2#8758
are they still going to vote trump now


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@jlun2 I have two TVs for old consoles.


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Sally Moon#4922
@jlun2 Trump removed Obama's water protection act shortly after he got into office.


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] wren#0114
can't wait to water my cows


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] wren#0114
land soooooooon


[16-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
ah, well. I guess I was too optimistic.


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
OANN is basically Breitbart TV


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] jlun2#8758
@Sally Moon did that benefit the farmers, or nah out of water still


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] byte[]#2610
the fact that I listed them all together does not mean I believe any of them should be abolished, but in general we ought to make less and perhaps look to more sustainable alternatives


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It did for a little while


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
24/7 Tucker Carlson and Jeanine Pierro style programming


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I don't know what Breitbart TV is, sounds like some pirate channel.


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] jlun2#8758
also isnt there a trade war that affects farmers atm


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
and then the water ran out :shrugpony:


[16-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Breitbart is a news site


[16-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And it's... it's bad


[16-Aug-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
misinformation and propaganda all the way down


[16-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's essentially every "conservative" facebook post but as a "news" site


[16-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>not rationing water during draught
>water running out
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[16-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>still not understanding it


[16-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Sally Moon#4922
But now America's waterways are far more contaminated due to the lack of regulations and protections. I was so pissed when Trump did a press conference stating how clean New York's water was and then drunk a glass to prove it. A fact check followed after showing that's not the case.


[16-Aug-20 08:39 PM] jlun2#8758
@Moon Flower clearly its due to the libs


[16-Aug-20 08:41 PM] wren#0114
trump didn't repeal the 70s clean water act or safe drinking water acts


[16-Aug-20 08:42 PM] wren#0114
just an obama definition of a newer rule for federal oversight of water in general, which was congress and is still a law, but trump has to define the part better that obama defined super vaguely


[16-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Moon Flower#6088
1970s sounds heavily outdated, though.


[16-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Trump wants to put gay juice into the water to make the gays even gayer.

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[16-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Question does Alex Jones really believe the shit he's selling?


[16-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Either he says it to meme or he’s believing it


[16-Aug-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
i ask that about conspiracy folks in general


[16-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Likely the later since he gets pretty heated


[16-Aug-20 08:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard Alex Jones was a major player of the 9/11 truthers movement


[16-Aug-20 08:46 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Being something and knowing it's wrong aren't mutually exclusive.


[16-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
it pays, so there's no need to believe it to sell it.


[16-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think Alex Jones is caught between a rock and a hard place. If he admits he believes all of the things he is saying he would be disowned for being crazy. If he didn't actually believe in the things he is saying then it means he has been preying upon the weak and vulnerable for monetary gains. No wonder he dodges the question when asked.


[16-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Opponent#3498
also that.


[16-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
many of the current popular demagogues do that.


[16-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Is Steven Crowder among them?


[16-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm. No idea tbh, I've not listened to anything of his. I'll rephrase my statement then.


[16-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Sally Moon#4922
go ahead


[16-Aug-20 09:10 PM] jlun2#8758
>  If he admits he believes all of the things he is saying he would be disowned for being crazy. If he didn't actually believe in the things he is saying then it means he has been preying upon the weak and vulnerable for monetary gains. 
prob better to just vanish & flee
or go out their way on a redemption arc; ppl love those right


[16-Aug-20 09:46 PM] wren#0114

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[16-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

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Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes
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[16-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Opponent#3498
yep, it's degrading. Well, I think now is about where the movement will be losing publicity and wrapping up. It was a moderate success overall, they burned some shit, got some concessions from the government. It was worth it.


[16-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes
That's racist.


[16-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
No it's not. It's repirations for the unjust acts performed against my ancestors in th— yeah this has gone much further than "way out of hand" :faceclaw:


[16-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/splatbit/status/1294640502516711425

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bit @ team egg (@splatbit)
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hahaha funny meme 😂 would be so cool if everyone saw this funny meme
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[16-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Brilliant, but one of the responses is basically what would happen if people caught on


[16-Aug-20 10:18 PM] Marukomuru#8409
https://twitter.com/OKGetsuO/status/1294812904508858376

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@splatbit If we're being real, this isn't without risk. If they start to notice they're start siccing cops on people. There's a non-zero chance that "closest affluent white town" is essentially a sundown town.

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[16-Aug-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Caught on to what? People doing nothing illegal?


[16-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Marukomuru#8409
When you get arrested for *reads notes* voting in America 🇺🇸 🦅


[16-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Who's ready for a new wave of vandalism targeting mail boxes in certain neighbourhoods?


[16-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"vandalism", rather


[16-Aug-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I actually don't know what'll happen if the GOP pushes too hard on the voter suppression to the point that they actually do throw the election in broad daylight


[16-Aug-20 10:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, to the point where they're caught red-handed but it's too late to do anything about it


[16-Aug-20 10:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Part of me wants to say "it's never too late" but there's an awfully long amount of time between november and the end of trump's term


[16-Aug-20 10:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, they've already declared that the election is fraudulent before it happens, and they get to make any sort of claim they want about the votes that don't exist come november... and it doesn't matter how true any of what they say is, they've guaranteed that people believe them before they even say anything


[16-Aug-20 10:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
is there anything proactive *we* can do about that?


[16-Aug-20 10:55 PM] byte[]#2610
GCJ https://i.redd.it/jjlgeca50bh51.jpg

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[16-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why censor his name


[16-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Opponent#3498
a karen vs an unnamed pedophile, that's like world series finals of a fighting game.


[16-Aug-20 11:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
Why is the pedo's name censored, but not the Karen?


[16-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
it's her bid for fame, she's protecting Le Children


[16-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
why would she censor herself? What, you don't know about the terrible cesspool of scum and villiany that is THE ROBLOX????


[16-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That isn't a Karen, bro


[16-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a pretty famous pornstar


[16-Aug-20 11:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
<https://twitter.com/hesusjohn9/status/1294487415336378369>


[16-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
well, there's your answer for 'why' then.


[16-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
she's definitely acting like a karen in the replies


[16-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Opponent#3498
free brownie points for virtue signalling.


[16-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1294542990464016384

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@_Sh4dA Or I could fucking ban it and not worry 👏🏻
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[16-Aug-20 11:08 PM] Crow#5457
jUsT bAn It No PrObLeM


[16-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1294492085853147136

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[16-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
she's also acting like trump


[16-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
someone brings up a good alternative to outright banning, she just replies "Wrong."


[16-Aug-20 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
so yeah, she's definitely a karen


[16-Aug-20 11:10 PM] Opponent#3498
she's famous. She MADE It. How dare you talk to her like that.


[16-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1294490566776909825

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@JohnZonak2 Ban them all.
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[16-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Opponent#3498
(meaning, say anything besides full support with a side of envy or adoration)


[16-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Crow#5457
she says to ban all video games lmao


[16-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
she should try. The child will come to hate and despise her, and will break free from an authoritarian in their life.


[16-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
painful, but worth it for everyone but her.


[16-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At a glance, looks like a born again christian


[16-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
a born again karen


[16-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Crow#5457
ABAK

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[16-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Marukomuru#8409
*>Pro Life*
Well I found my red flag :trixdisgust:


[17-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> https://twitter.com/krzysztofbosak/status/1295013509642760192 Hey, this is a video of Kaja Godek. Yes, *the* Kaja Godek, the woman who's renting trucks that drive across cities in Poland, broadcasting her views that homosexuals are paedophiles and wish to sexualise children. She says in this video that there will be a suggestion to the Polish Parliament for a bill that would delegalise equality parades (known in the West as pride parades).

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Na Krakowskim Przedmieściu trwa manifestacja #StopAgresjiLGBT. Gorąca atmosfera i kontra lewicy po drugiej stronie ulicy. Wśród przemawiających Kaja Godek, która zapowiedziała inicjatywę ustawodawczą na rzecz zakazu parad homoseksualnych https://t.co/hxCWQMGch9
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[17-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> https://twitter.com/PawelT_PL/status/1295032402100846594 There's a statue at the top of the stairs here. A few days ago, someone hung a rainbow flag on it. A bunch of people got indignant about the absolute gall of those people. So now I see this picture. Look at the sheer number of coppers they put up there to guard it from the evil gays.

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Dziś już raczej nikt nic tu nie zawiesi.
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#StopAgresjiLGBT
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[17-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Moon Flower#6088
> Oh, yeah, and that first tweet was from some anti-LGBT demonstration, because according to the demonstrators, LGBT people are too aggressive in their actions.

> Reminder that Poland is considered the most homophobic country in the EU.


[17-Aug-20 12:03 AM] jlun2#8758
2020 & parents still hate video games


[17-Aug-20 12:04 AM] jlun2#8758
getting kids make you dispise video games change my mind


[17-Aug-20 12:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
Probably


[17-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Games is just one of the more recent things to blame when kids go wrong


[17-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rather than bad or no parenting


[17-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(or a shitty school system)


[17-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You also see a lot of stuff like "I only learned about erections/periods when I was 14"


[17-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And people blaming their school or "society"


[17-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And, like, where the fuck were your parents?


[17-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Busy not parenting and expecting literally everyone else to do the job for them


[17-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
In the mines working their debt away


[17-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
basking in their glory and adoration of US incels, like the subject in the tweets above :wheeze:


[17-Aug-20 12:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I don;t understand why people are doing this thing, but this other thing is popular so they must be related somehow!"


[17-Aug-20 12:51 AM] byte[]#2610
parents can't do their job as parents effectively when their income is too low


[17-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And that is vicious cycle


[17-Aug-20 12:55 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Kids require attention with their studies as well, allowing them to pursue higher income jobs.


[17-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] as demonstrated just now, low income is definitely not the only reason.


[17-Aug-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
certainly not


[17-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Opponent#3498
in fact, a negligent parent would probably produce a more functional being than a tyrant, if not nessesarily the most 'successful' in conventional terms.


[17-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
both are far from ideal though.


[17-Aug-20 01:12 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-spends-time-figuring-out-how-block-mail-in-ballots-2020-8

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Donald Trump spends a lot of time and energy trying to figure out h...
Trump is reportedly fixated on mail-in ballots, as he circulates discredited claims that they will be used to fake the election result, says a report.
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[17-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel this mail-in thing has an in-built weakness.


[17-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Opponent#3498
injecting extra ballots at any point would be... easier than usual, and would also destroy confidence in ths system.


[17-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Opponent#3498
by the time the smoke from it clears, who knows what would happen.


[17-Aug-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-kamala-harris-eligible-election-1525367

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Trump says "don't tell me what I know," refuses to say Kamala Harri...
President Donald Trump said he would not be "pursuing" the false claims.
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[17-Aug-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
> Trump Says 'Don't Tell Me What I Know,' Refuses to Say Kamala Harris Is Eligible After False Birther Claims


[17-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Opponent#3498
he's not even denying it at this point though. It requires an impressive amount of doublethink to ignore this.


[17-Aug-20 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The idea is that you're not supposed to ignore it, you're just supposed to assume that the democrats have already hijacked the election through fraud (that's guaranteed to happen, or has already happened, doesn't matter) and now it's a matter of taking this lost battle and turning it into a victory through any means possible. By claiming that his enemies aren't playing by the rules, he is no longer beholden to them because he's morally right. That's a shockingly easy amount of doublethink to achieve


[17-Aug-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-eyes-putin-meeting-november-election-say-four-people-familiar-n1236861

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Trump eyes Putin meeting before November election, say sources
U.S. officials have explored potential times and places for a Trump-Putin summit, including next month in New York, said people familiar with discussions.
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[17-Aug-20 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
okay but 5 seconds into this article why is it that a nuclear treaty deal with Russia is seen as easy mode for Trump to demonstrate his diplomatic ability


[17-Aug-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
obviously I know the answer but man he's not putting his cards on the table, they're just literally falling out of his sleeves


[17-Aug-20 01:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh and they're involving china too great this is amazing optics for donny


[17-Aug-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
Not a russian plant tho :bot:


[17-Aug-20 01:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://twitter.com/suskiipone/status/1295102199681425408?s=21

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This is not an easy post to make. I've let some of my friends know privately already, but I felt like I need to say what was going on:
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[17-Aug-20 01:45 AM] Opponent#3498
well, now I learned something new about myself :3


[17-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
so who's this guy? Anyone of note?


[17-Aug-20 01:48 AM] Opponent#3498
in with the wootwagon, or just full of himself?


[17-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/c/Suskii/videos

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[17-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing too spectacular.


[17-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_hasn't listened to "brony music" since "beyond her garden"_


[17-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oct 2011, wew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z5eizH0u1I

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[17-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's the most recent track on my creative MuVo, where I stored all that


[17-Aug-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/biden-trump-poll-against-3afb9853-427c-4c85-8673-ed64d6a0a5f5.html

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But Biden still has a 50%-41% lead nationally.
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[17-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/brutalcountry/status/1294098886617858049?s=19

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Hey, @adultswim and @cartoonnetwork , how do you feel about this racist post from Squidbillies voice actor, #stuartbaker?
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[17-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Squidbillies/status/1295120819870367745

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[17-Aug-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was more like early cuyler than i would have expected


[17-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I like how it's a show about mostly untrue stereotypes of Southerners but he gets incredibly mad when a Southerner doesn't conform to one


[17-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Squidbillies/status/1270546586666504193

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Squidbillies (@Squidbillies)
https://twitter.com/Squidbillies/status/1270546586666504193
election day

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[17-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Had never heard of this show before


[17-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I thought it ended like ten years ago.


[17-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is this what adult swim is selling now?


[17-Aug-20 02:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, it still gets new seasons


[17-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Opponent#3498
'Rednecks made you a Millionaire'. Well, great. Their purpose is served now, is his point? :wheeze:


[17-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pretty sure the general public made her a millionaire, she sort of popularized popular country music


[17-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And doing country music while not being a massive hick and being a likable person


[17-Aug-20 02:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Redneck pride is a weird thing.


[17-Aug-20 02:46 AM] Marukomuru#8409
>lgbtphobic individuals


[17-Aug-20 02:47 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Yeah because all that lgbt-themed content in the fandom is obviously in bad faith 🙄 
I was wondering why I had that guy pre-emptively blocked but I guess now I know why :shrugpony:

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[17-Aug-20 02:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe stop being an asshole to minorities :' )


[17-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Mentioning Jenny and talking about LGBTphobic people in the same paragraph shows where they're coming from


[17-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Jenny is really dismissive of any women or LGBT+ people who do things she doesn't like.


[17-Aug-20 03:00 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-book-foreword-trump-will-never-leave-office-peacefully-2020-8

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In a foreword for his new book, President Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer argued that the president would stop at nothing to cling to power.
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[17-Aug-20 03:34 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Squidbillies is still around? Like damn


[17-Aug-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well it;s main audience is people high off their ass laughing at redneck stereotypes, that seems like a simple recipe for success and renewal


[17-Aug-20 04:21 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
We weren't even prepared for the boss round. https://www.bworldonline.com/malaysia-detects-coronavirus-strain-thats-10-times-more-infectious/

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Malaysia detects coronavirus strain that’s 10 times more infectious
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[17-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
this article doesn't make sense. They get the clickbaity first sentense right out the door, and then say that basicly nothing much changes.


[17-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
if they mean 10 times more infectious than the original chinese one, yeah, sure, that would explain things.


[17-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
but they never specify and the whole thing is basicly useless past the clickbait.


[17-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking see, this is what I've been missing. Context :3 Thank you.


[17-Aug-20 05:05 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Why does my country's journalism have to suck?


[17-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which country?


[17-Aug-20 05:39 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
PH


[17-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're run by a dictator.


[17-Aug-20 05:48 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
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[17-Aug-20 06:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-new-unproven-coronavirus-cure-oleandrin-hud-ben-carson-2020-8 here we go again

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Trump reportedly pushing new unproven coronavirus treatment that is...
MyPillow's Mike Lindell said Trump "basically said: …'The FDA should be approving it,'" regarding oleandrin as a potential coronavirus treatment.
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[17-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/08/medical-debt-collection-firm-r1-rcm-hit-in-ransomware-attack/

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Medical Debt Collection Firm R1 RCM Hit in Ransomware Attack
R1 RCM Inc. [NASDAQ:RCM], one of the nation's largest medical debt collection companies, has been hit in a ransomware attack.
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[17-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
get fucked


[17-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Aug-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
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[17-Aug-20 09:05 AM] Crow#5457
trap card status: activated


[17-Aug-20 09:07 AM] wren#0114
no, I only believe in emigration :twiright:


[17-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> MyPillow founder and CEO Mike Lindell, who's known to have be well-connected with the president, also expressed support for the experimental extract. Lindell also has a financial stake in the company developing the oleandrin product, Phoenix Biotechnology.


[17-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This sounds hilariously illegal


[17-Aug-20 10:07 AM] byte[]#2610
When did that ever stop the prez or his cronies


[17-Aug-20 10:22 AM] Marches[45]#0674
Well, time to burn mypillow.


[17-Aug-20 10:23 AM] byte[]#2610
It's been time to burn mypillow for years


[17-Aug-20 10:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Mypillow is like the single biggest advertiser on fox news


[17-Aug-20 11:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-53802226/coronavirus-hundreds-gather-in-madrid-for-anti-mask-protest

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Hundreds gather in Madrid for anti-mask protest
Crowds gathered in the Spanish capital on Sunday to protest against the mandatory use of face masks.
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[17-Aug-20 11:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
New cases in Spain are back to peak levels, and morons do this


[17-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Marches[45]#0674
People think supermarkets pose higher risk of spread than classrooms.


[17-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Much higher and varied traffic


[17-Aug-20 11:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Lots of bottlenecks, lots of people touching the same stuff


[17-Aug-20 11:11 AM] Marches[45]#0674
True, but contact between people is generally far briefer, crowd controls are more feasible.


[17-Aug-20 11:12 AM] byte[]#2610
people don't get as close


[17-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Marches[45]#0674
I’m of course talking about grade school classrooms.


[17-Aug-20 11:12 AM] byte[]#2610
they also aren't like, touching everything and putting it back, and they aren't sticking around for hours at a time


[17-Aug-20 11:12 AM] byte[]#2610
(well, most aren't, anyway...)


[17-Aug-20 11:13 AM] byte[]#2610
it's much less of a risky proposition to go shopping than it is to go to class


[17-Aug-20 11:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If someone in class is sick, yeah


[17-Aug-20 11:16 AM] byte[]#2610
and this might be just me speculating but I have a feeling that mask and distancing requirements are going to be better enforced in most stores than they are in schools


[17-Aug-20 11:36 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/A-T7schshQIScuCOFs8MfEg

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Pelosi calls House back to D.C. over Postal Service crisis — POLITI...
A vote is expected Saturday to bar Trump overhaul plan for USPS.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQS1UN3NjaHNoUUlTY3VDT0ZzOE1mRWcAMA


[17-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-high-school-student-knowingly-went-class-coronavirus-officials-say-n1236895

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Oklahoma high school student knowingly went to class with coronavir...
The school district said the Westmoore High School student was asymptomatic and believed it was safe to attend the first day of classes.
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[17-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Of course this is happening.


[17-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Adults throughout this entire pandemic have been super cavalier about masks and distancing. 

Expecting children and teenagers to make informed, responsible *life-and-death* decisions is ridiculous.


[17-Aug-20 01:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[17-Aug-20 02:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Aug-20 02:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Brother dead, big sad. Now, about the mainstream media..."


[17-Aug-20 03:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[17-Aug-20 03:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/e6f6d1910927e1e57fd98952d2fd5f22

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Arizona district cancels classes after teachers revolt
PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona school district that had planned to resume in-person classes against the advice of public health officials is now backing off after teachers refused to show up....
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[17-Aug-20 04:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good.

So should the rest of the the schools.


[17-Aug-20 05:22 PM] Moon Flower#6088
How can you "miscalculate" 2 weeks?
It's the same day name, is that too regular for the US?


[17-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, isn't it "enact"


[17-Aug-20 05:42 PM] jlun2#8758
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 viraldom :lewd: when


[17-Aug-20 06:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Yes


[17-Aug-20 06:13 PM] byte[]#2610
http://cbsaustin.com/news/local/82-year-old-houston-area-man-left-without-heart-medicine-for-a-week-due-to-usps-delays

Many of Trump's supporters are geriatric; fucking with the USPS is going to likely kill quite a few of them in another stroke of epic idiocy on his behalf

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82-year-old Houston-area man left without heart medicine for a week...
An elderly man in the Houston area says his heart medicine was delayed over a week due to delays in from the U. S. Postal Service. 82-year-old Don White of Humble told KHOU that he has been tracking the package, which shows it has remained at a north Houston mail processing fa...
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[17-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Can we just stage a insurrection, I’m getting tired of Trump’s constant bullshit.


[17-Aug-20 06:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he seems to be preparing for an insurrection

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[17-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Holy shit the fucking gall
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/16/politics/postal-service-trump-absentee-ballot-request-mail-usps/index.html

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Voters in North Carolina have received absentee ballot request form...
Given the crisis facing the United States Postal Service before a presidential election, the last thing John Herter expected to receive in the mail Saturday was an absentee ballot request form with President Donald Trump's face on it.
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[17-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[17-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[17-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
wow.


[17-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
that's impressive levels of bullshit.


[17-Aug-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe he really is genuinly confused about this whole thing? Did nobody ever asked him to clarify what the difference between mail-in and absentee is?


[17-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
If we start a insurrection while he’s giving a speech it’ll be easier


[17-Aug-20 07:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There is no difference between mail-in and absentee voting


[17-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
_obviously_, but didn't anyone ever ask him this question?


[17-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The only difference is some states only allow mail-in voting if the voter physically has no chance to vote in person (such as being out of state)


[17-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
because at this point it's just bizzare


[17-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sure many have, and he's just ignored them and pointed at someone else


[17-Aug-20 07:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or done the old "Oh you know what the differences are, you and the dishonest media. Fake news CNN, people know the difference. In the back, OAN, next question"


[17-Aug-20 07:52 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1287880895051907072?s=21

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So disgusting to watch Twitter’s so-called “Trending”, where sooo many trends are about me, and never a good one. They look for anything they can find, make it as bad as possible, and blow it up, trying to make it trend. Really ridiculous, illegal, and, of course, very unfair...
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[17-Aug-20 07:52 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck off oldassbag


[17-Aug-20 07:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
**_illegal_**

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[17-Aug-20 07:55 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/belarus-uk-condemns-appalling-violence-against-protesters-and-does-not-accept-results-of-election-12050864

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Factory workers heckle and boo Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko
The long-standing Belarusian leader is facing the biggest challenge to his 26-year rule amid a wave of mass protests and strikes.
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[17-Aug-20 07:55 PM] illumnious#7938
Bruh I’m telling ya


[17-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
By the way what is the story progress so far?


[17-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Europe made Lukashenko persona non grata


[17-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
People in Belarus still on strike but it seems like nothing really happens rn


[17-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_Z1U34u9k

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Belarus workers chant 'resign!' at Lukashenko on factory visit
The Belarusian president, Alexander Lukashenko, walked off stage to chants of 'step down' after a speech to workers at the Minsk tractor works on Monday. The factory is one of the large state-run industrial plants that are the pride of his Soviet-style economic model and core ...
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[17-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
'Lukaschenko on new elections in Belarus: “We held an election. There won’t be any other election until you kill me. You will never see me do anything under pressure.”


[17-Aug-20 09:05 PM] jlun2#8758
do assasinations even occur anymore
i know twitter loves death threats, but i never seen one get followed up for real


[17-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
on occasion, but he's not worth it


[17-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Why not go to the local pharmacy for your meds?


[17-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What?


[17-Aug-20 09:25 PM] jlun2#8758
prob super rural area
@Эᴚ|∫ prob this http://cbsaustin.com/news/local/82-year-old-houston-area-man-left-without-heart-medicine-for-a-week-due-to-usps-delays

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82-year-old Houston-area man left without heart medicine for a week...
An elderly man in the Houston area says his heart medicine was delayed over a week due to delays in from the U. S. Postal Service. 82-year-old Don White of Humble told KHOU that he has been tracking the package, which shows it has remained at a north Houston mail processing fa...
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[17-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Hmm, I guess in the USA stuff is much further away.


[17-Aug-20 09:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pharmacy worksw for cities but a lot of people live too far out to reach a pharmacy and those are the people in trouble


[17-Aug-20 09:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american rural is very isolated


[17-Aug-20 09:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why not DHL/Amazon?


[17-Aug-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because the usps is affordably cheaper and shipping by anything else is expensive as shit


[17-Aug-20 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
well then, #nopoors


[17-Aug-20 09:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think amazon also only delivers to heavily populated areas


[17-Aug-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for everywhere else thye use USPS


[17-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thumb of rule here and some other countries: never ever use national mail carrier. Either stuff ends up broken/stolen/stuck in limbo.


[17-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yup, can confirm.


[17-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Opponent#3498
we have an awesome reasonably affordable privatized carrier though, so it's fine.


[17-Aug-20 09:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that seems to apply more for the privatized carriers here


[17-Aug-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fedex will wreck your shit


[17-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Using private couriers here too.


[17-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Deutsche Post is generally pretty good


[17-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Royal Mail was the absolute worst


[17-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That Deutsche Qualität.


[17-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Had so many "failed deliveries" or lost mail when I was in the UK


[17-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Lukashenko video, there you see the difference of "peaceful" portestors in the US and actual peaceful protestors.


[17-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
US has never had peaceful protests


[17-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Itsthinking#8251
We're a country that has as one of its most beloved founding events a false-flag act of terrorism


[17-Aug-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
peaceful protests dont really work in the US


[17-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Эᴚ|∫ From my experience DHL is only good if it is the actual German one, if it is a subsidiary from, like, the Netherlands, it gets wonky already.


[17-Aug-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well large scale ones anyway


[17-Aug-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
small scale ones like teachers strikes work half the time


[17-Aug-20 09:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is backwards as fuck


[17-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Эᴚ|∫ In my experience the national post offices are best choice. Even USPS far away from the USA.


[17-Aug-20 09:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess that depends on the country


[17-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There was a funny story here how carrier lost a tracked parcel.
It was delivered in 1 month to destination city. Then all of sudden ended up at other end of country in middle of nowhere for months. Then got back to sender town. That's was like 5 months. It was easier to drive to other town to collect the parcel.


[17-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Why don't you respect the government or the police?!"
>country was literally founded over a tax disagreement, included people committing mass destruction of property as protest, and them disguising themselves as another race to avoid punishment


[17-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Trump ballot request thing, really neutral.


[17-Aug-20 09:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt be that big a deal except he sent it through a service he;s actively trying to kill for the very thing it was sent for


[17-Aug-20 09:41 PM] byte[]#2610
it wasn't even him, it was his PAC


[17-Aug-20 09:42 PM] byte[]#2610
still, mixed messages :xd:


[17-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I guess that's why I don't like all the BLM stuff, not peaceful. And you guys saying US has never peaceful large scale protests, oof.


[17-Aug-20 09:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didnt say they didnt have them, i said they didnt work


[17-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If they don't make the news, they didn't happen


[17-Aug-20 09:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have large scale peaceful protests all the time, and they usually dont make much traction


[17-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Moon Flower#6088
That's sad.


[17-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
for the peaceful protest to work, the people in charge should care about public opinion. Generally not the case anywhere in the world.


[17-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Moon Flower#6088
[insert US & guns comment]


[17-Aug-20 09:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the unrelated riots have actually made some government officials push for action to stop the unrelated riots


[17-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A peaceful protest would only be effective if it's something like a massive sit-in encircling some important government building or business


[17-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But then the cops get called in to remove people and it immediately stops being peaceful


[17-Aug-20 09:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then everyone calls thme rioters when they were acting in self defense against people throwing live ammo at them


[17-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Well, in Belarus many, many people got incarcerated.


[17-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Moon Flower#6088
And some killed too.


[17-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I guess that it is barely heard of in the US, but to me it is a big thing here.


[17-Aug-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
we in US are busy dealing with our own electoral crisis ...


[17-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not a news watcher, reader, listener, etc. so I can't tell about coverage.


[17-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] inb4 Trump copying Lukashenko.


[17-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To keep in mind is the Belarus protests are likely _extra_ peaceful because they know the police will happily go full ham on them and there won't be any real press or anything


[17-Aug-20 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
it's not like I'm not outraged about the situation in Belarus


[17-Aug-20 09:48 PM] byte[]#2610
but the Trump machine political ratfuckery is coming for our election and I find it increasingly likely they will steal the election in broad daylight


[17-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Teaspoon Police already went full ham on them including shooting.


[17-Aug-20 09:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
fuller ham


[17-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Moon Flower#6088
fullest ham [post butt focus picture]


[17-Aug-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
🥩


[17-Aug-20 09:50 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
💅


[17-Aug-20 09:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the high bar is tianenmen square


[17-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Opponent#3498
well, Lukashenko fears internaional pressure, so he and his own see the protesters as international agents, as traitors. So, no wonder.


[17-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean pulling out the RPDs and just clearing out the streets


[17-Aug-20 09:51 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-party-of-lincoln-belongs-to-qanon-now-thanks-donald-trump

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The Party of Lincoln Belongs to QAnon Now. Thanks, Donald!
In Trump’s world, the political utility of having a closet of conspiracy-crazed boomer rubes is worth the downsides.
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[17-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] You also have to understand that as European I am an outsider, but still I get bombarded with USA this, USA there, USA USA even if not following any news. I just unmuted this channel to report about Belarus. Then I noticed that not many seem to be interested in it, or maybe don't want to talk about it, I dunno the reason, but the next message is usually Trump again. It is a bit frustrating.

I wonder what the user base by country is on this server, you should have access to the stats. Wait, no, you don't have such access anymore.


[17-Aug-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
based on site use I would guess it is at least 50% US


[17-Aug-20 09:54 PM] byte[]#2610
so, sorry if you feel we are drowning you out


[17-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Moon Flower#6088
No need to be sorry about it, just explained my point of view.


[17-Aug-20 09:55 PM] byte[]#2610
discord might actually overrepresent US users relative to the site population


[17-Aug-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/belarus-elections-president-lukashenko-ready-hand-over-power-a4526976.html

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Belarus president 'ready to hand over power after new elections'
Belarus' president has said he is ready to hold new elections and hand over power after a constitutional referendum, after days of mass protests followed an election demonstrators say was rigged in his favour.
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2020/08/10/10/alexanderlukashenko1008.jpg


[17-Aug-20 09:56 PM] byte[]#2610
since it is very much a US-centric platform aimed specifically at US based users


[17-Aug-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look another election to rig


[17-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] Wouldn't be surprised if most VPNs are set to US from people from countries that like to silence media and ban stuff.


[17-Aug-20 09:59 PM] jlun2#8758
i know the feeling :ts_cry:
"world news" means 99% US news


[17-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Yeah, in the video Lukashenka said he wouldn't do stuff under pressure in terms of new elections. He probably plans on how to rig the next one since days already.


[17-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Moon Flower#6088
The last elections were rigged too obvious. Neutral observers banned, announcing win by a land-slide even though his popularity was under 10%, not letting anyone outside nor the population see the results and stuff, shutting down internet right after announcing the "results".


[17-Aug-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/512294-trump-administration-finalizes-plan-to-open-up-alaska-wildlife

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Trump administration finalizes plan to open up Alaska wildlife refu...
The Trump administration announced Monday it would open up 1.5 million acres of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil and gas drilling.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/anwr.jpg


[17-Aug-20 10:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile, fuck the alaskan wildlife refuge, i guess


[17-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Moon Flower#6088
"open up" sounds like "creating" to me


[17-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> Trump administration finalizes plan to open up Alaska wildlife refu...
Trump is actually creating a wildlife refugee?

> The Trump administration announced Monday it would open up 1.5 million acres of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to oil and gas drilling.
oh...

And that's how news titles already influence readers, if they just look at the prominent titles hanging out everywhere.


[17-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Moon Flower#6088
clickbaits use the same tool


[17-Aug-20 10:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
FOX NEWS is horrible on clickbaiting


[17-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Rep had THIS to say about top Dem"


[17-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Carlson SHREDS new talking point from Harris' team"


[17-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I literally read
Rap had THIS to say about top Dom.


[17-Aug-20 10:13 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1295415445147865096
https://naviny.by/article/20200817/1597667148-aleksievich-belyackiy-center-kto-voshel-v-pervyy-spisok-koordinacionnogo

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The first meeting of Svetlana Tikhanovskaya's Transfer of Power Coordination Council will be held tomorrow. Dozens of prominent representatives of the civil society, big private business, workers' delegates became its members. Here is the full list: https://t.co/IJ8jsTf0To
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Алексиевич, Беляцкий, Центер… Кто вошел в первый список Координацио...
Доверенное лицо кандидата в президента Светланы Тихановской Ольга Ковалькова опубликовала список первых белорусов, включенных в состав Координационного совета для обеспечения трансфера власти. О создании Координационного совета находящаяся в Литве Тихановская объявила 14 авгус...
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[17-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
NIce self-own you smug undercooked hashbrown

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[17-Aug-20 10:14 PM] ononim#8141
>multiple businessmen 
>one (1) delegate of striking workers


[17-Aug-20 10:15 PM] ononim#8141
Business as usual.
I do hope that, if opposition wins, it will result in better conditions for organization, including better union activity


[17-Aug-20 10:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/512364-house-republicans-allege-democrats-are-fabricating-usps-crisis

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House Republicans allege Democrats are fabricating USPS crisis
House Republicans are blasting Democrats’ calls for Congress to pass billions in additional funding for the U.S.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mccarthykevin_072320bc5_lead.jpg


[17-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well it's time to be worried, then, because those same Democrats also fabricated the Covic crisis


[17-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Turns out Dems are all WH40k orks


[17-Aug-20 10:24 PM] ononim#8141
TSP wtf


[17-Aug-20 10:24 PM] ononim#8141
If Dems were orks they would at least try to win


[17-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not if they don't believe they can win

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[17-Aug-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-staffers-pissed-at-a-top-national-security-aide-for-wearing-a-mask-in-front-of-them?ref=home

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White House Staffers Pissed at a Top National Security Aide—for Wea...
Deputy National Security Adviser Matt Pottinger has been way out front on the coronavirus. Too out front for some colleagues.
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[17-Aug-20 11:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1295379031802761217?s=21


[17-Aug-20 11:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/Anabur/status/1295390498786508802


[17-Aug-20 11:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512288-trump-shrugs-off-outcry-over-postal-service-im-just-making-it-good

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Trump shrugs off outcry over Postal Service: 'I'm just making it good'
President Trump on Monday dismissed a Democratic push for billions in U.S. Postal Service (USPS) funding as a "con game" and shrugged off concerns from lawmakers that he is undermining the agency ahead of November's election.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpd2_08122020getty.jpg


[17-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "We’re making it so it is going to be good, and we’re going to take care of our postal workers above all," Trump said. "We’re not firing people, but the way they ran that thing for many years, this isn’t a Trump thing. … This has been one of the disasters of the world, the way it’s been run."
> 
> "It’s been run horribly. And we’re going to make it good," he continued. "Now what am I supposed to do? Let it continue to run badly? So if you fix it, they say ‘oh he’s tampering with the election.' No, we’re not tampering."


[17-Aug-20 11:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:roseconfused:


[17-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
It's not a Trump thing. So it must go.


[17-Aug-20 11:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not run liek an incompetent mass money laundering scheme so it has to go!


[17-Aug-20 11:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I swear to god, Trump's speech pattern and vocabulary is so absurdly dumb


[17-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
I unironically think it's huge part of his appeal.


[17-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
man of the people, he is. Salt of the land or something.


[17-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
not really, not even _remotely_, but that's how he sounds.


[18-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Moon Flower#6088
That's why this business man went bankrupt multiple times on hotels.


[18-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Man of the people"

but most people aren't this dumb

i think


[18-Aug-20 12:23 AM] byte[]#2610
you made the mistake of thinking

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[18-Aug-20 12:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-weather-extreme/new-global-temperature-record-set-in-californias-death-valley-idUSKCN25D1A1

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New global temperature record set in California's Death Valley
The hottest air temperature recorded anywhere on the planet in at least a century, and possibly ever, was reached in Death Valley in California's Mojave Desert on Sunday afternoon where it soared to 130 Fahrenheit (54.4 Celsius).
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200817&t=2&i=1529971271&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEG7G1FO


[18-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
@byte[] https://heraldsheets.com/us-postal-service-usps-files-patent-for-blockchain-based-voting-system/

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United States Postal Service (USPS) Files Patent for a Blockchain-B...
The United States Postal Service (USPS) has reportedly filed a patent for a blockchain-based mail-in voting system. Following President Donald Trump’s conclusion that mail-in voting would represent ballots all over the place and fraudulent ballots would be named after dogs and...
https://heraldsheets.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/BLOCKCHAIN.jpg


[18-Aug-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
I have already explained why this is dumb


[18-Aug-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
voting as a cryptocurrency type log system?


[18-Aug-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao I made the right call not moving back to campus


[18-Aug-20 01:14 AM] byte[]#2610
medical response office reports 80 new positive cases _every day_

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[18-Aug-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
in the campus itself?


[18-Aug-20 01:15 AM] jlun2#8758
are they having covid parties?


[18-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] WA;DS please on why is this dumb?


[18-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Moon Flower#6088
What does WA;DS mean?


[18-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
"Was Asleep; Didn't See"


[18-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] Oof.


[18-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Good call then.


[18-Aug-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
an election should be
- free: voters can choose whichever candidate they want
- fair: voters can only cast one ballot
- anonymous: it should not be possible for the public to identify who anyone voted for
- auditable: it should be possible to recount ballots fairly in the event it is too close to call


[18-Aug-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
blockchain solves free, fair, and auditable by sacrificing anonymity


[18-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Can it be done with salted one-way functions or something?


[18-Aug-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
nope


[18-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Crow#5457
tbh I don't think you can ever completely solve free, fair, and auditable without sacrificing at least some anonymity


[18-Aug-20 01:24 AM] byte[]#2610
correct, but blockchain sacrifices it far too broadly


[18-Aug-20 01:25 AM] byte[]#2610
the other thing is that POW functions are subject to a 50%+1 attack and after that point the new consensus can arbitrarily control the ledger


[18-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Crow#5457
there has to be a technological solution to the problem, there's no possible way there isn't one


[18-Aug-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
where as to tamper with the results of local election workers you would have to compromise every single county polling place


[18-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
I suppose the first step would be having an actual nationwide identification code/card/whatever


[18-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Crow#5457
and not the unsecured bullshit half-measure that is social security


[18-Aug-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah but then you get conspiratards talking about how they're gonna microchip you


[18-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Moon Flower#6088
What is blockchain?


[18-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain

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Blockchain
A blockchain, originally block chain, is a growing list of records, called blocks, that are linked using cryptography. Each block contains a cryptographic hash of the previous block, a timestamp, and transaction data (generally represented as a Merkle tree).
By design, a block...
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[18-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Moon Flower#6088
That doesn't explain to a noob like me how this affects the vote by mail thing.


[18-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I can't imagine it. Why would blockchain thingy not be anonymous in mail voting?


[18-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Moon Flower#6088
EU social security card has barcode or chip and unique numbers.


[18-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Crow#5457
blockchains by their very nature can't be anonymous, it records exactly who does what at every step of the process


[18-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Moon Flower#6088
oh


[18-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
why does bitcoin functions like an anonymous transaction platform then?


[18-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
it's their main selling point after all, as far as I've understood it.


[18-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I did mail vote at times. Ballot went into a blank envelope which was again in a bigger envelope to send in. iirc


[18-Aug-20 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
bitcoin is only pseudonymous


[18-Aug-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
the idea with the hashes is that nobody will bother to try to track you with it


[18-Aug-20 01:34 AM] byte[]#2610
but your spending definitely can be tracked if anyone anywhere in the chain ever converts the btc into fiat


[18-Aug-20 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
even if that doesn't happen (a statistical improbability), you giving out your address to anyone lets all transactions to or from that address be tracked and linked to you _permanently_


[18-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, yeah, I see the problem.


[18-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
I think. Shit, I'm having ridiculous issues trying to internalise this stuff. Need to actually devote time to it, not talk about it.


[18-Aug-20 01:39 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/bBC-nXj3Ng4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBC-nXj3Ng4
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[18-Aug-20 01:40 AM] byte[]#2610
Here you go


[18-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, let's see.


[18-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Phelan#7647
Isn't the fed or something creating an official, US backed, digital currency?


[18-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, this is already supremely useful 8 minutes in, I finally understood the purpose of mining. Seeding the initial capital, so to speak.


[18-Aug-20 01:58 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Tonight's the Democratic National Convention.


[18-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498

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[18-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Opponent#3498
oooh this looks sexy as hell.


[18-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
:nut:


[18-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Marukomuru#8409
:wat:


[18-Aug-20 02:06 AM] illumnious#7938
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[18-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Not the momma!


[18-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Looks like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KW3S0od5s5U/TEcM-vq5XnI/AAAAAAAAE8Q/ZJbH6HUF0wY/s1600/BabySinclair2.JPG

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[18-Aug-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/GPRjVvccQVM

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Apple adds Macs to independent repair provider program
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[18-Aug-20 02:10 AM] byte[]#2610
Apple: 🖕


[18-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] yes. Excellent. This is what I needed as an entry point. Thank you :twihappy:


[18-Aug-20 02:53 AM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Aug-20 03:04 AM] byte[]#2610
conservative pundits shocked to discover conservative news network might be racist https://i.redd.it/srv70ghy6lh51.png

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[18-Aug-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
the real hot take is that they might have been actually been treated completely fairly by the network and are just trying to grift


[18-Aug-20 03:14 AM] byte[]#2610
bets on which one it actually is?

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[18-Aug-20 03:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably the racism.


[18-Aug-20 03:15 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Why not both?


[18-Aug-20 03:15 AM] byte[]#2610
mutually exclusive


[18-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
hard to call tbh


[18-Aug-20 03:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/shanedkavanaugh/status/1295520938411229184?s=21

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Shane D. Kavanaugh (@shanedkavanaugh)
https://twitter.com/shanedkavanaugh/status/1295520938411229184?s=21
Driver who crashed his pickup near the BLM rally in downtown Portland last night & was beaten unconscious by protesters had been on the east side a few hours prior pounding bottles of Miller High Life & wielding a hatchet, per an employee the bar Church.
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Twitter

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[18-Aug-20 03:27 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Sounds like a nice guy


[18-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
he don't need no stinking guns.


[18-Aug-20 03:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
Should've brought a real weapon, smh.


[18-Aug-20 03:40 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Shoulda brought a water gun filled with pepper spray


[18-Aug-20 03:44 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont feel like assault is a great response to a drunken racist driver (from one witness). maybe the cops could lock him up and investigate then he have a fair trial. instead of the court of public opinion from one witness. maybe there is more omitted that i dont know but from this i dont get much to make a opinion other then i need to know more


[18-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Marches[45]#0674
That logic circuit = 💦


[18-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
N u t t u s


[18-Aug-20 04:29 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[18-Aug-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
To what is the difference between Kaitlyn Jenner and Kaitlyn Bennett? I have a hard time discerning them


[18-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
uwu


[18-Aug-20 04:33 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Ones Jenner, ones Bennet


[18-Aug-20 04:34 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Very helpful :ponkthonk:


[18-Aug-20 04:40 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Watching the DNC rn!

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[18-Aug-20 04:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
Boring


[18-Aug-20 04:52 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I am also watching the Republic Convention don't worry


[18-Aug-20 04:53 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I am watching both sides. Not just Democrat


[18-Aug-20 04:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
Double boring.


[18-Aug-20 04:53 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
what the hay


[18-Aug-20 04:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
>"Convention"
>no crowds


[18-Aug-20 04:54 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Oh. But there's still people cheering, virtually.


[18-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Whoever gets the most pogchamps wins the presidency


[18-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just want Biden to start thanking people for the giftsubs


[18-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Serenity#9645
its pretty healthy to learn both sides and where each is coming from animal or green or ect party gives better understanding and a good view for your fellow man


[18-Aug-20 05:17 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
> I just want Biden to start thanking people for the giftsubs
@Teaspoon  wait, he streams on Twitch?


[18-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno about him, but I know Sanders does


[18-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Serenity#9645
https://nypost.com/2020/08/16/trump-shares-faucis-advice-on-in-person-voting-amid-covid-19/

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President Trump on Sunday shared Dr. Anthony Fauci’s advice on voting in person amid the coronavirus pandemic — after the expert said there’s “no reason” it can’t be d…
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[18-Aug-20 06:47 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
"And, those not interested in physically going to the polls on Election Day can use mail-in voting if available, Fauci said."


[18-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Serenity#9645
yes they can request a ballot, not a mass mail-in ballot. its not hard to request. i get one cus i work around the world and rarely in my home state


[18-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's no difference


[18-Aug-20 06:53 AM] Serenity#9645
how so?


[18-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Serenity#9645
one is sent out in mass, one is requested


[18-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some states don't have mail-in ballots for people that live in the state, only for people physically absent


[18-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thus they're called absentee ballots


[18-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You still have to register for one and they're processed the same way


[18-Aug-20 06:57 AM] Serenity#9645
so you agree to requests for ballots? not mass mail-in ones? cus i know many that got ballots with their address and got requests for their own ballots. well i never got a ballot or request at mine, i had to do like i do for other years request for one.


[18-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
People should only be receiving ballot request forms, not actual ballots


[18-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Both parties are spamming out request forms to people in order to send out the actual ballots later on


[18-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And also random PACs


[18-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not possible for anyone to have received a ballot for the Nov federal election yet


[18-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Neither candidate has confirmed their ticket


[18-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Serenity#9645
well there are people that receive ballots, not requests, i even heard of someone getting a ballot for a dead cat lol (not presidential)


[18-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
State/local elections are up to each state


[18-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If anyone's received a "ballot" for the Nov 3 election, they're being scammed


[18-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Serenity#9645
agreed, but if thats how states hold them including mine that is red and blue like my NJ friends (for local) i have little faith. cus even if it is a scam its a scam out of a vote. truthfully i follow more german politics and work there often and plan on integrating there but im sadly still part of this crazyness


[18-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont wish bad for the states, just wish they stayed away from germany. but im still a citizen so its still my right to vote, even if i have little faith in both parties


[18-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well they're planning on shutting down the bases


[18-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which means no more cheap imports from the BX


[18-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
well good on them. fuck the BX and PX and all those, its cheeper in germany


[18-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Have you tried German "Dr Pepper"? It's vile


[18-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Serenity#9645
have you ever tried american fanta? its vile


[18-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And more expensive than buying it from BX resellers


[18-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The taste of Dr. Pepper only being describable as itself is proof of an unjust world


[18-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Serenity#9645
i pay about 1 euro a bottle, and get 25c back, vs us 1.50 usd


[18-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Serenity#9645
try going to germany first, the pfand is great


[18-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Litre of Dr Pepper in Berlin costs 1.7 euro, plus .25 pfand


[18-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
One of my favorite images I've seen online in a while was a European supermarket that had international food and the American shelves were all candy and cereal


[18-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Cereal all had stickers to cover up the claims of it being healthy in any way, of course


[18-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
great you drink 90g of suger i dont need that ill take the 30g and for .5l  i dont even wanna know what 2l is in the us.


[18-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
At the place I buy the "American Food" stands is hershy's chocolate, crisco, beans, poptarts, cheesewhip, absurdly expensive microwave popcorn, maple syrup, some hot sauces, and that's about it


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, marshmallows


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Serenity#9645
ill give you pizza, german pizza sucks


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I make my own, much cheaper


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Serenity#9645
same and i do


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Plus I can spam jalapenyos on it


[18-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I still remember having to describe to a German who had never been to the US what a smore was


[18-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I miss grahamm crackers


[18-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Serenity#9645
but i dont drink soda, i drink bier. and i cook all my own food


[18-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I also had to explain to a Mongolian why he shouldn't wear his swastika necklace without expecting a fight


[18-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the traditional swastika


[18-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, an american visiting Spain during "Saintly Week" must be fun


[18-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[18-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Serenity#9645
never been to spain but ive been to portugal and poland, planning on going to france


[18-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Aug-20 07:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[18-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Serenity#9645
but in the end, american milk tastes like bleach i went back to the us and couldnt drink it, american food is expensive and tastes horrible, id much rather have the turkish-german dönner as a fast food that is cheeper and better


[18-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
we have real greek and real spanish (not mexican) and real indian if we wanna have something else, not taco bell. we have 1/3-1/4 of the suger, we have actual bier. and we dont have riots and 2 parties.


[18-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>mfw i'm part spanish and prefer mexican food over it -_-


[18-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Serenity#9645
yeah healthcare sucks, and i worked hard to pay for private. yeah schools suck, but i worked hard for private, but we have 250 usd a month 2br apartments with garage and fenced backyards in schwetzigen


[18-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>250 usd a month 2br apartments with garage


[18-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I pay 600 euro for something the size of a cargo container in Berlin, and it's only "that cheap" because there was "an accident" at the building when I got it


[18-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
convert that to euro i dare you


[18-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The same place now would be 1200 euro _at least_


[18-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
welcome to berlin, go south


[18-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Serenity#9645
my landlord will let me renovate how i like, my ex-project 1br that had a line in the wall from splitting apart for 400usd in the us wouldnt let me own a fish


[18-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to ask my employer if I can just, like, fuck off away from the city


[18-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Most of the company has been working from home and productivity has only increased


[18-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Serenity#9645
thats why im getting a job at a airport in southern germany


[18-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I may as well go to some random town in Bavaria and pay a third for rent or even just buy a place


[18-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Serenity#9645
and again 250 euro a month for 2br fully renovated 1st person there, garage and backyard, and (as a american) super cool intercom door unlocking phone


[18-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Serenity#9645
its 3 blocks from the town square where the farmer market is and from the castle garten is


[18-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Serenity#9645
1 block is my fav turkish bar, 2 blocks the all in motel that has a frisky german girl (im gay but she likes me) who gets me drinks for free and loves kareoke


[18-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Serenity#9645
1 block is also my fav kafe that i get breakfast every morning cus its 3 euros for 2 eggs a cappuccino and 2 pastries


[18-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm far too much of a cheap shit to eat out


[18-Aug-20 07:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Except this one place near work that sells the greasiest pizzas in the world for 2.30 euro


[18-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Serenity#9645
kauflands is across town but a easy bike ride away, if i dont get from the farmers market i get it from kauflands and host cookouts and from my backyard invite passersbys


[18-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Phelan#7647
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[18-Aug-20 07:34 AM] Serenity#9645
but i have to say, american pizza is way better, i cant order pizza from germany lol


[18-Aug-20 07:36 AM] Serenity#9645
but from a american standpoint 3 euro is so good for a full breakfast, at starbucks id have to spend like 15$ to get what i get there


[18-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Serenity#9645
and thats backwoods not city, that costs like 25+$


[18-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I was gifted a 40 euro starbucks gift card


[18-Aug-20 07:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The nearest starbucks is about 30 minutes away, need to take two trains


[18-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess one day I'll go and order three whole muffins


[18-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Serenity#9645
and the bahn sucks bad lol


[18-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Serenity#9645
but i kinda miss the bahn in the states we dont have it, so yeah i miss the completely drunk taking the bahn, now i spend nights having to walk hours in the rain or having to get a uber that costs more then the overpiced taxis there (but damn german taxis are fast and super cool they hae the price on sceen for you in (america you just guess)


[18-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Serenity#9645
one time on the bahn i was with 2 uni students and we drank 10l of bier well i was going home. i gave them 5 euro and stumbled home lol


[18-Aug-20 07:47 AM] Serenity#9645
im not saying germany is better, theres alot of shitty rules, but i fit in more and like it there, so im immigrating there as a homeless gay guy who made it in the us and being pushed but as worthless in the us i have offers for greater jobs in germany well working there. after working there and living there i just like southwest germany more. the politics and the living.


[18-Aug-20 07:54 AM] Serenity#9645
you might like it in other places but the grass isnt always greener untill youve walked on it. and the grass isnt greener for everyone there is always greener grass. i might like liberal germany but you might like liberal US. not everything is the same for each persons values and youll never know untill youve been and experienced it.


[18-Aug-20 08:27 AM] Crow#5457
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[18-Aug-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
no wonder chicago's on fire


[18-Aug-20 08:29 AM] Crow#5457
too many people without jobs who are in danger of losing their homes and going hungry


[18-Aug-20 09:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just buy a house?

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[18-Aug-20 10:49 AM] Phelan#7647
Yes


[18-Aug-20 10:51 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Wait, there are jobs in middle of nowhere?


[18-Aug-20 10:53 AM] wren#0114
this is what I was concerned about with the severity of the shutdown


[18-Aug-20 11:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What is that white square with 0% unemployment?


[18-Aug-20 11:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're right, it should've been more severe and far earlier.


[18-Aug-20 11:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/17/judge-trump-rollback-transgender-health-397332

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[18-Aug-20 11:22 AM] wren#0114
if it was more severe and earlier, it might have cleared things enough to open by now


[18-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Opponent#3498
gentle reminder that the lockdowns were never to 'avoid the epidemic'. They were to 'blunt the infection spike, to avoid overwhelming the services'.


[18-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Opponent#3498
and that has come and gone a while ago (unless in US, but even then, case by case)


[18-Aug-20 12:10 PM] Opponent#3498
and, according to models from march and april, that were never _fundamentally_ disproven to the best of my knowledge, the lockdowns would make this thing last significantly _longer_.


[18-Aug-20 12:12 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yeah. Everything is more or less according to keikaku.


[18-Aug-20 12:13 PM] Opponent#3498
both sides were probably correct too, claiming that this was nessesary (from dems) and that the economy wouldn't bear it (from reps). Because 'living paycheck to paycheck' falls apart at any minor disturbance, and US really did have it too peaceful and quiet since like Great Depression or something.


[18-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/18/china-xi-jinping-facing-widespread-opposition-in-his-own-party-claims-insider

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[18-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Crow#5457
"blunting the infection to not overwhelm the services" is necessary for people to not die due to a shortage of said services


[18-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention that it's the pandemic which causes the economic downturn, not the interventions meant to blunt its impact


[18-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
and that early and aggressive intervention allows the economy to bounce back way faster after the pandemic has passed


[18-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Crow#5457
the study was based on the 1918 spanish flu pandemic where some cities did absolutely nothing and some cities locked down hard


[18-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Crow#5457
and it's shown in the real world with the coronavirus pandemic by how canada's economy is bouncing back way faster than the US's


[18-Aug-20 01:05 PM] byte[]#2610
look at NZ for a better model ...


[18-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtubetrimmer.com/view/?v=hsxukOPEdgg&start=1273&end=1314


[18-Aug-20 01:19 PM] Opponent#3498
well, yes, it worked for NZ, an island nation with a population of a big city in the ass end of the world.


[18-Aug-20 01:20 PM] Opponent#3498
plus apparently they actually _trust_ and _believe in_ the government there, something you won't easily find in any of the continents.


[18-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ8OTriUThA

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[18-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Opponent#3498
well this was heartfelt. At least they don't entirely take it lying down.


[18-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Moon Flower#6088
*lying


[18-Aug-20 03:15 PM] Opponent#3498
right. My grammar is entirely shot lately, should pay more attention.


[18-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Moon Flower#6088
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[18-Aug-20 03:27 PM] illumnious#7938
Do we care

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[18-Aug-20 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
another anti republican robot :bot:


[18-Aug-20 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Trump's actions belie his words in this case (multiple rape cases, "grab em by the pussy", etc.)


[18-Aug-20 03:29 PM] byte[]#2610
He doesn't care about women


[18-Aug-20 03:39 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Aug-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/512505-judge-blocks-idaho-law-preventing-transgender-women-from-playing

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A federal judge on Monday temporarily blocked an Idaho law that bans transgender women from playing women’s sports, saying the law is unlikely to hold up in court.
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[18-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
...what defines 'women's sports' again?


[18-Aug-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
because if it's competitive 'women only' teams on shit like football, then, uh, yeah. Those are based on biological limitations.


[18-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
```The ruling said the restriction on transgender athletes “stands in stark contrast to the policies of elite athletic bodies that regulate sports both nationally and globally.”```


[18-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
:wat:


[18-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```The second law, which prohibited transgender people from altering their birth certificate to match their gender identity was rejected by U.S. Magistrate Candy Dale, who said it violated a court order from 2018, according to the Statesman.```
tbh there's no reason why should they be able to. A birth certificate describes a specific event and establishes objective facts like sex, parents etc., at the time of compiling it. What would be a legitimate reason to alter it?


[18-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Just put the hormone pills and injections into the doping lists.
Problem solved.


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[18-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Moosebug is packing out his high impact shitposting.


[18-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's got layers


[18-Aug-20 07:02 PM] byte[]#2610
just like her


[18-Aug-20 07:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Conservative memes that have an accidental grain of truth


[18-Aug-20 07:02 PM] Moon Flower#6088
There used to be days byte would have shitposted much harder.


[18-Aug-20 07:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There used to be days I got out of bed before the first alarm went off


[18-Aug-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Aug-20 07:04 PM] byte[]#2610
you wanted higher impact?


[18-Aug-20 07:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
wat


[18-Aug-20 07:05 PM] byte[]#2610
dunno why that post is in the center, should be at the extreme libleft corner


[18-Aug-20 07:05 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I always knew you are higher impact.


[18-Aug-20 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
with center libleft looking down at it going "what"


[18-Aug-20 07:08 PM] Moon Flower#6088
My brain hurts.


[18-Aug-20 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/ice-detention-immigrants-trump-california-toxic-chemicals-covid-a9668716.html

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[18-Aug-20 07:12 PM] byte[]#2610
next step: turn on the gas


[18-Aug-20 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
> The use of Zyklon B on the U.S.-Mexican border was a matter of keen interest to the firm of DEGESCH. In 1938, Dr. Gerhard Peters called for its use in German Desinfektionskammern. Romo has tracked down an article Peters wrote in a German pest science journal, Anzeiger für Schädlingskunde, which featured two photographs of El Paso delousing chambers. Peters went on to become the managing director of DEGESCH, which handled the supply of Zyklon B for the Nazi death camps. He was tried and convicted at Nuremberg. Hilberg reports that he got five years, then won a retrial that netted him six years. He was re-tried in 1955 and found not guilty.


[18-Aug-20 07:14 PM] byte[]#2610
apparently the Nazis were inspired to use gas chambers by the Americans gassing Mexicans at the border


[18-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Moon Flower#6088
There's actually a Mr. Gumby anniversary celebration.


[18-Aug-20 07:16 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not sure if I should post it here due to reference or in #memes-and-shitposts .


[18-Aug-20 07:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> apparently the Nazis were inspired to use gas chambers by the Americans gassing Mexicans at the border
:ponkthonk:


[18-Aug-20 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610

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[18-Aug-20 07:20 PM] byte[]#2610
HDQ Neutral
SDS


[18-Aug-20 07:21 PM] byte[]#2610
primary disinfectant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didecyldimethylammonium_chloride

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Didecyldimethylammonium chloride
Didecyldimethylammonium chloride (DDAC) is an antiseptic/disinfectant that is used in many biocidal applications. It causes disruption of intermolecular interactions and dissociation of lipid bilayers. It is a broad spectrum bactericidal and fungicidal and can be used as disin...


[18-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
```Hilberg reports that he got five years, then won a retrial that netted him six years.```
I wonder how that works.


[18-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
```dunno why that post is in the center```
it transcends the mortal norms and dogmas. It has no place on the table nor does it need one.


[18-Aug-20 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not in the center. It's above and beyong them all.


[18-Aug-20 08:11 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/srl/status/1295776722609209345?s=21

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[18-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/lyft-uber-ordered-to-classify-california-drivers-as-employees/583290/

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Lyft, Uber threaten to pull out of California
Executives from both companies said they would suspend operations in California if the state forces them to classify drivers as employees.
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[18-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

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[18-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Why should we treat our ~~slaves~~ workers as employees?


[18-Aug-20 08:56 PM] >That Guy#3386
`...what defines 'women's sports' again?`
I think that refers to female-only leagues, which only exist in the first place to account for biological differences.


[18-Aug-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
note: there aren't very many sports where it actually matters


[18-Aug-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
obvious examples where it _does_ matter: wrestling, track, swimming


[18-Aug-20 09:00 PM] byte[]#2610
examples where it doesn't really matter: basically anything that's a game


[18-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
American Football?


[18-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Football?


[18-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Basketball?


[18-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The only sport I think you could have co-ed teams in the major leagues would be baseball


[18-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
American feet


[18-Aug-20 09:10 PM] illumnious#7938
:pinkgun:


[18-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Only sports I recognize as valid use mouse and keyboard


[18-Aug-20 09:11 PM] jlun2#8758
feetball


[18-Aug-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
does california still have taxis & if so are they still backwards compared to uber or have they improved by now
edit: they still exist, but not sure if they improved


[18-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh, tennis could work too


[18-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Moon Flower#6088
The physical differences will affect many sports which would result in men being overrepresented and then people will yell it would be discriminating.


[18-Aug-20 09:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[18-Aug-20 09:49 PM] byte[]#2610
"Obviously there are people who aren't children that play Fortnite"

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[18-Aug-20 10:11 PM] Crow#5457
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[18-Aug-20 10:15 PM] Opponent#3498
but, but, they'll leave if you tax em :wheeze:


[18-Aug-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
a century later trillionaires look back & laugh at how governments were bending over for those peasant billionaires


[18-Aug-20 10:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
century?

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[18-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/18/postal_justice_warriors_undermine_election_confidence_143985.html

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Postal Justice Warriors Undermine Election Confidence | RealClearPo...
If you want a barometer for where we are as a country, consider this: Rioters can topple statues of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson and odds are good local police will be ordered to stand down....
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[19-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Moon Flower#6088
that name


[19-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`If you want a barometer for where we are as a country, consider this: Rioters can topple statues of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson and odds are good local police will be ordered to stand down. Remove a neighborhood mailbox for ordinary reasons, and well, that’s such a potent symbol of supposed U.S. government tyranny that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will convene hearings about the “the sabotage of the Postal Service" and members of Congress will openly suggest arresting the postmaster general.`


[19-Aug-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
last time I checked, a statue of GW or TJ is not critical national infrastructure


[19-Aug-20 12:04 AM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck is this guy smoking?


[19-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Bitch I have been waiting for a check for 6-7 weeks that would have helped me a long time ago and should have already been here 4 weeks ago and hasn't because of this shit


[19-Aug-20 12:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/512543-states-file-two-lawsuits-against-postmaster-general-over-postal

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More than a dozen states sue Postal Service over delays
Two groups of states announced separate lawsuits against Postmaster General Louis DeJoy on Tuesday over operational changes at the Postal Service that have led to delays in mail delivery around the country ahead of the November elections.
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[19-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Idiots should sue the president instead of themselves.


[19-Aug-20 12:45 AM] Opponent#3498
to sue the president they'd have to get in a loong ass line :wheeze:


[19-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Moon Flower#6088
Sueing a public service will cost the tax payer three times.


[19-Aug-20 12:54 AM] byte[]#2610
they're likely not planning to pursue damages


[19-Aug-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
they just want an injunction against USPS to stop them from decommissioning mail equipment


[19-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Moon Flower#6088
but they don't get the money they need, what else should they do?


[19-Aug-20 01:01 AM] byte[]#2610
the USPS has the money it needs to operate within its usual parameters


[19-Aug-20 01:05 AM] Moon Flower#6088
why does it need more monwy then?


[19-Aug-20 01:05 AM] byte[]#2610
it... doesn't


[19-Aug-20 01:06 AM] byte[]#2610
republicans have been trying to strangle the USPS by forcing it to pay its pensions for 75 years in advance but if it were not for that the USPS would actually operate at a profit. not only is it an essential service, it actually makes money


[19-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Moon Flower#6088
So both parties want poopy stuff and if both dropped their shenanigans, everything would be fine? Wow.


[19-Aug-20 01:10 AM] byte[]#2610
um, no, the republicans are the ones that are going batshit here


[19-Aug-20 01:16 AM] Moon Flower#6088
so democrats want to pump money in there after republicans set up that law?


[19-Aug-20 01:17 AM] byte[]#2610
the democrats are mostly asking "how can we fund you to serve all areas effectively"; I'm sure some will try to shoehorn in some obscure strings to whatever money is apportioned for the post office, but that's not really the national discourse


[19-Aug-20 01:18 AM] byte[]#2610
in opposition to that, many congressional republicans want the post office dismantled entirely and are doing whatever they can to ensure that it looks like a failure


[19-Aug-20 01:19 AM] byte[]#2610
this is not a "both sides bad" thing; there are many cases where that's true, but this is not one of them


[19-Aug-20 01:20 AM] jlun2#8758
> pensions
the mythical boomer concept


[19-Aug-20 01:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
Must be freaking comfy to know you'll have a pension 75 years in the future.

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[19-Aug-20 01:25 AM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[19-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Phelan#7647
The only people I see use USPS is boomers and scams (that target boomers)


[19-Aug-20 01:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
>political ads in 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrYSNlKxr0&

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The Bidening: Take The Test November 3rd
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[19-Aug-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
how about ... the government


[19-Aug-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
for mailing you, you know, official documents, along with your bank, cc company, insurance company, etc.


[19-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Moon Flower#6088
I'd always select USPS over FedEx and UPS but not many online shops offer it.


[19-Aug-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
like, have you never received any mail here?


[19-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People actually use FedEx?


[19-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Moon Flower#6088
FedEx and UPS are the same level of unsatisfactory service from my European pov.


[19-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
US has DHL for that


[19-Aug-20 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/FlossdnParadise/status/1294380298474524678/photo/1

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@jbouie @babystew Here, I made an overlay of the 2016 election map by county. Feast your eyes on blue blobs surrounded by a red circle. Sounds like a new symptom of fascism.
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[19-Aug-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
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[19-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Phelan#7647
> how about ... the government
@byte[] 
I said boomers


[19-Aug-20 01:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i use usps because it's affordable and reliable. I also live out where fedex and ups rarely come because it's not profitable to deliver to the middle of nowhere un less it's a large package dump


[19-Aug-20 01:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if i had to pay $25 each time i wanted to mail out paperwork, i;d be fucked


[19-Aug-20 01:54 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/18/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/southeast-asia-detects-mutated-virus-strain-sweeping-world/#.XzxsXBrvChA

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Southeast Asia detects mutated virus strain sweeping the world
Southeast Asia is facing a strain of the new coronavirus that the Philippines, which faces the region’s largest outbreak, is studying to see whether the mu
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[19-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Moon Flower#6088
:thisisfine:


[19-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
yup, this one has more clarity. Although it's in part copied word for word from the earlier artcle I called out as being useless, they expanded it.


[19-Aug-20 02:29 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Note that my country's press freedom index is 136 / 180.


[19-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
and, yeah, the strain is 'new' to asian countries, not to the rest of the world. Well, now they get to join the fun, instead of sitting smug and touting their amazing pop cooperation and national spirit or some shit


[19-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Opponent#3498
yours is... Malasia?


[19-Aug-20 02:30 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
No. Philippines.


[19-Aug-20 02:31 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
That article I linked a few days back is a Philippine newspaper website.


[19-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Opponent#3498
right.


[19-Aug-20 02:35 AM] Opponent#3498
heh, we're at 96


[19-Aug-20 02:38 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782

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[19-Aug-20 02:39 AM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[19-Aug-20 02:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Oh u Ukranian?


[19-Aug-20 02:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
oof


[19-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Opponent#3498
mmhm.


[19-Aug-20 04:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/512628-mcconnell-senate-unlikely-to-pass-stand-alone-postal-service-bill

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McConnell: Senate unlikely to pass stand-alone Postal Service bill
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is casting doubt on the Senate passing a stand-alone Postal Service bill, even as House Democrats prepare to pass their own legislation.
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[19-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://politics.theonion.com/cat-eared-pink-haired-bill-clinton-exhorts-dnc-viewers-1844764944

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NEW YORK—Licking a lollipop while smiling coyly at the camera, former president Bill Clinton used his Democratic National Convention speaking slot Tuesday to exhort viewers to donate for access to his full, uncut speech. “Our nation stands on a precipice, and we need to take t...
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[19-Aug-20 04:11 AM] byte[]#2610
gamer president bathwater


[19-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
JFK was the original gamer president


[19-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He was just JK until his gamer friends put an F in the chat for him


[19-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
His head was the chat and the F was a bullet.

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[19-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
...Am I the only one getting a bunch of pro-Trump audio ads on Youtube's front page? Every time I go to that page I keep hearing clips of Biden saying stupid shit set to spooky music.


[19-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, he made a massive ad buy on Youtube because DNC convention


[19-Aug-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
his PAC did


[19-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But auto-starting audio ads on Youtube that I can't close or click out of? That's just obnoxious.


[19-Aug-20 04:39 AM] byte[]#2610
ublock0


[19-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/512254-far-right-activist-laura-loomer-wins-florida-gop-house-primary

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Far-right activist Laura Loomer wins Florida GOP primary
Far-right activist Laura Loomer won the GOP House primary in Florida’s 21st Congressional District, handing the Republican Party a controversial nominee in a safe blue district.
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[19-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ahh, I guess that's more effective than Ad Block.


[19-Aug-20 04:40 AM] byte[]#2610
ABP is run by an advertising company


[19-Aug-20 04:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Gotcha. I'm gonna try uninstalling and using ublock and see if that works.


[19-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yep, that worked, thanks.


[19-Aug-20 04:51 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
It's Four Nights at the Democrats Night 2!


[19-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I just want to get the conventions and debates over with. Biden's already ahead and I don't think he can get much *more* ahead.

The less he talks, the less chance he has to say something stupid and get a negative news cycle.


[19-Aug-20 05:00 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Joe and Jill went up the hill


[19-Aug-20 05:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[19-Aug-20 05:55 AM] jlun2#8758
> I keep hearing clips of Biden saying stupid shit set to spooky music
boomerween


[19-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Crow#5457
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[19-Aug-20 08:36 AM] Crow#5457
https://imgur.com/gallery/5XpCvov

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Preparing for Eviction / Homelessness
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[19-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Phelan#7647

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[19-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Phelan#7647
On WikiFeet


[19-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.fontanka.ru/2020/08/18/69428752/


[19-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Backstabbers :GWcorbinTopKek:


[19-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Opponent#3498
truly sorry for russian language, but this might be interesting for some people here regardless. I'll try to find a translation.


[19-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Opponent#3498
also rip this shit refuses to embed.


[19-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Opponent#3498
re: Belarus, opinion.


[19-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim


[19-Aug-20 01:26 PM] ononim#8141
Yeah, I noticed how the news, while going on how "opposition is getting financed by the west" and other such usual cliches is not as hard on them as I would think, and I feel like there's very subtle critical tone, imo, when tlaking about Lukashenko. Tough spot for him huh.


[19-Aug-20 01:31 PM] ononim#8141
And yeah, after I seen workers on the state controlled factory heckle him and call for resignation, him being done looks like a likely outcome.
Especially since it is not just regular civilian protests, there's been strikes too.


[19-Aug-20 01:35 PM] ononim#8141
Yoooooo, I knew he didn't handle covid well but this is embarrassing


[19-Aug-20 02:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess he's gonna disappear from the news for a few days and resurface self-exiled in some other country soon...


[19-Aug-20 02:20 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492900941973028864/745542054481887232/image0-1.jpg

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[19-Aug-20 02:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[19-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
some context would be nice I think.


[19-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cop=fascist


[19-Aug-20 02:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the context is people keep saying they wont do soemthing and calling it facism such as wearign a mask


[19-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
that's deep.


[19-Aug-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-begins-universal-basic-income-trial-three-years-2020-8

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Germany is beginning a universal basic income trial with individual...
The scientist leading the research Jürgen Schupp said it would improve the debate about universal basic income by producing scientific evidence.
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[19-Aug-20 03:20 PM] Opponent#3498
reasonable. Someone gotta try it first, without being a fringe case like Egypt.


[19-Aug-20 03:21 PM] Opponent#3498
the government going through with this even as a trial would also help calm people who whipped themselves into a frenzy over BLM down.


[19-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A few other euro countries tried it, holland, finland, and somewhere in the UK


[19-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
or maybe norway instead of one of those, can't remember


[19-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
What was the outcome?


[19-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
As far as I remember all positive, people still looked for jobs if they didn't have one and overall mood increased as there was less stress related to not having enough to pay rent/food


[19-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
probably a wiki page somewhere with all the results


[19-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, and there's Alaska of course


[19-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone there gets free cash just for being there


[19-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income_pilots#Europe

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Basic income pilots
Basic income pilots are smaller-scale preliminary experiments which are carried out on selected members of the relevant population to assess the feasibility, costs and effects of the full-scale implementation of basic income or the related concept of negative income tax, inclu...


[19-Aug-20 03:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The only way to get people into inhospitable area is either pay or gulag.


[19-Aug-20 05:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck me https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/18/apple-worked-with-u-s-government-on-secret-ipod/

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Apple Worked With U.S. Government on 'Secret' iPod
Apple worked with the U.S. government on a "secret" modified iPod, according to a new report by former Apple software engineer David Shayer...
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[19-Aug-20 05:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Introducing the Apple ispy


[19-Aug-20 05:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Didn't some phone manufacturer work with Mossad so they could distribute phones in Palestine and use them for targeting?


[19-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Haha you guys, check out this crate of cheap smart phones we just found on the side of the road, we're so lucky"


[19-Aug-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1296092859226042368

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Don’t buy GOODYEAR TIRES - They announced a BAN ON MAGA HATS. Get better tires for far less! (This is what the Radical Left Democrats do. Two can play the same game, and we have to start playing it now!).
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[19-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This also sounds very illegal


[19-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
The Trump himself or the free spypbones


[19-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Or both


[19-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
spy tech might very well be illegal, but this is the case of 'who's gonna stop us'


[19-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump... who the fuck cares, every other thing he does is illegal


[19-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
so basicly the same scenario. A law that cannot or would not be enforced becomes irrlevant


[19-Aug-20 06:41 PM] byte[]#2610
conservatives are totally down with cancel culture after all, who woulda thunk :ponythinking:


[19-Aug-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610

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[19-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Goodyear banned all political attire, not just Maga hats, also


[19-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Trump is raging that Goodyear is nonpolitical


[19-Aug-20 06:47 PM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/JenzoBeans/status/1296101043432980480

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@walterowensgrpa @realDonaldTrump I just removed my tires and replaced them with cans of Goya Beans because I am a real patriot.
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[19-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
ah, goya. truly the anti-soy


[19-Aug-20 06:48 PM] byte[]#2610
GOYA brand canned soybeans


[19-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Gaya


[19-Aug-20 06:50 PM] byte[]#2610
guyava


[19-Aug-20 07:10 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/in-donald-trumps-simple-mind-were-all-such-simple-people

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In Donald Trump’s Simple Mind, We’re All Such Simple People
Women are nasty or nice housewives. Blacks will vote for Kanye because...he’s Black. We’re all just caricatures of ourselves in the president’s brain.
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[19-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
```The first time I picked up on this concept was back in 2016, when Trump was asked by Chris Matthews about abortion. His answer (which was, essentially, to punish the woman) sounded like something no actual conservative would say. As Marc Thiessen, a former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, observed at the time, “Trump is not a real conservative—he is the liberal caricature of a conservative.”

“Since Trump does not actually understand what pro-life conservatives truly believe,” Thiessen explained, “he mindlessly echoes the liberal caricature of pro-life conservatives. He mistakenly thinks this is what these conservatives want to hear. They don’t.”```


[19-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
so they _don't_ in fact believe the woman should be punished? :wheeze:

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[19-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
nice try, but... Well, you tried :wheeze:


[19-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
```As Republican strategist Liam Donovan told The New York Times, Trump’s “intimate connection with the base is one of shared grievance. But when it comes to what they’re for, it inevitably comes off like a cartoon version of what a New York billionaire would think conservatives believe.”```
so a New York billionaire is the liberal they're talking about. _Nice._


[19-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
all of this is... such bullshit. It doesn't even help that it's anti-Trump


[19-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People forget the Central Park Five, don't they


[19-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
what was that about?


[19-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
```By treating us as collective blocs of identity groups who can be conned, fearmongered, and exploited—rather than as individuals who must be convinced and persuaded—Donald Trump has alienated many of the very people he sought to manipulate. ```
by treating us as who we are, he broke our fragile illusion of self-importance. **PUNISHED HE MUST BE.**


[19-Aug-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a bit funny to see anti-trump republicans write about how they were manipulated


[19-Aug-20 08:06 PM] byte[]#2610
"wow, congrats, you figured it out"


[19-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll talk a lot about how "Trump isn't us"


[19-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'll still vote for him


[19-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not even about manipulation, it's the sudden realisation akin to 'Are we the baddies?'


[19-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh no


[19-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
(which is, of course, impossible; he must be _punished_ to make us feel like we are even for a moment)


[19-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They knew they were the baddies


[19-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just they're not used to the one representing them being so forward about it


[19-Aug-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s less "Are we the baddies?" and more him saying all the quiet parts outloud


[19-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The "I don't *agree* with blatant bigotry or discrimination but I'll still vote for people promoting it if it means lower taxes" libertarians


[19-Aug-20 08:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Well, people might die horribly from poor leadership management, but atleast i don't have to pay taxes to fund this country"


[19-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Well, I myself will definitely pay more in health insurance fees but at least I won't pay slightly more in taxes to cover my medical bills" 8D


[19-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Opponent#3498
to be fair, libertarians as a movement are premised to thinking of yourself first, to the exclusion of all else (least as far as I get it).


[19-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yes, if it's good for me, it's good.


[19-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-sues-new-jersey-over-mail-in-voting-2020-8

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The president, who baselessly insists that mail-in voting will cause voter fraud, tweeted on Wednesday, "IF YOU CAN PROTEST IN PERSON, YOU CAN VOTE IN PERSON!"
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[19-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Majority of working and middle class libertarians would still benefit more from progressive policies I think.

On a purely selfish level, universal healthcare is better for most individuals than not.


[19-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Taxes raise a bit for us, and a lot for the very wealthy. Overall, most of us pay less than we are now, so they should get in on this.


[19-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Nebbie#8545
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[19-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"if you don't like it, leave" is the best


[19-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"people shouldn't be allowed to immigrate here if they don't like the political situation in their country" followed immediately by "if you don't like the political situation in this country, emigrate"


[19-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's the sort of thing that makes you wonder if they snorted _too much_ glue as a kid


[19-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
well there's a caveat to it, they shouldn't be allowed to immigrate _here_, specifically.


[19-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Opponent#3498
they're free to move anywhere else. Syberia is pretty empty for instance :D


[19-Aug-20 10:01 PM] jlun2#8758
> to be fair, libertarians as a movement are premised to thinking of yourself first, to the exclusion of all else (least as far as I get it).
wont that lead to tragedy of the commons


[19-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Opponent#3498
of course it will. But if they play their cards right, they get to go out last, so it's fine.


[19-Aug-20 10:02 PM] jlun2#8758
even if "everyone" thinks the same? :ponythinking:


[19-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Phelan#7647
Libertarians (as in Libertarian party) are just a small government (in all facets) party.


[19-Aug-20 10:04 PM] jlun2#8758
i thought that was the non religious GOP


[19-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Phelan#7647
Currently, biggest things that separate them from the GOP is they don't like the military, borders, drug control
They tend to be non-religious or moderate religious person (one that doesn't shove it down people's throats)


[19-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Phelan#7647
Most libertarians I meet are the "I want gays to protect their pot fields with guns" libertarians.


[19-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I work with a guy like that. He's cool, though of course I think he's wrong on the economy.

But I've also known people who call themselves "libertarians" but keep sucking up to police authoritarianism and are only mad at poor people on welfare but not corporate bailouts.


[19-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah that last one is big oof.


[19-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Phelan#7647
The libertarians I know aren't fans of police, but know they're required. Also, they're against bailouts (hell, I know a few that are against the Fed as a whole)


[19-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah, there's a difference between libertarians and *"libertarians"*


[19-Aug-20 10:48 PM] wren#0114
fed is bad


[19-Aug-20 10:48 PM] wren#0114
why are we paying private group to use our money


[19-Aug-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i once met a guy who said that service industry people should be paid less because "Their jobs arent as hard as electricians"


[19-Aug-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
the fed is a ridiculous setup


[19-Aug-20 10:50 PM] byte[]#2610
it should be congressionally chartered and controlled, NOT private

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[19-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Federal government should be looked at pragmatically; as a tool, neither good or bad. Support stuff it does if it helps, oppose if it harms. Like, universal healthcare would help. The average citizen would pay way less money than they are now for medical care. This is a case where the federal government doing a thing is good.


[19-Aug-20 10:51 PM] wren#0114
the fed as in the private banking system


[19-Aug-20 10:51 PM] wren#0114
federal gov is necessary


[19-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Phelan#7647
Fed != federal government


[19-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
ooh, gotcha


[19-Aug-20 10:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

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Federal Reserve
The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve or simply the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States of America. It was created on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, after a series of financial panics (particularly ...
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[19-Aug-20 10:53 PM] wren#0114
inflation is a scam


[19-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Phelan#7647
It's a weird quasi-private, quasi-public central bank, the board is nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. They serve 14 years per term.


[19-Aug-20 10:53 PM] byte[]#2610
inflation is a natural consequence of the economy


[19-Aug-20 10:55 PM] wren#0114
not overwhelming structural inflation that's consistently devaluing the entire market, instead of just market portions fluctuating naturally


[19-Aug-20 10:55 PM] wren#0114
why is it natural that the dollar is so much less today than years ago, regardless of which product you're looking at


[19-Aug-20 10:56 PM] byte[]#2610
then say you mean that next time :twismug:


[19-Aug-20 10:56 PM] wren#0114
?


[19-Aug-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
anyway, the point of structural inflation is to encourage people to continue spending money; during deflation, when the value of money consistently increases it creates a positive feedback loop where the value increases further because people become aware that the value of their money increases by hoarding it instead of spending it


[19-Aug-20 10:58 PM] byte[]#2610
whether or not that holds water, I don't know, but that's my understanding


[19-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the only easy-to-grasp concept of inflation is the political one, with the value tied to $ primarily


[19-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
your state falls apart, you default on your debts, your money are worth nothing.


[19-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
as for 'natural consequence of economy'... Ehhhh.


[19-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Phelan#7647
You don't really want a high rate of inflation, but because of that reason, inflation is better than deflation.
I think the rate is targeted at 2% but it usually ends up a bit lower.


[19-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Opponent#3498
why is it nessesary though? What is the goal?


[19-Aug-20 11:06 PM] wren#0114
I don't think it should be constant forever like this


[19-Aug-20 11:07 PM] wren#0114
deflation boogeyman causing us to not care that we're permanently devaluing our currency


[19-Aug-20 11:07 PM] wren#0114
there should be cycles, even if they want to manage those


[19-Aug-20 11:08 PM] byte[]#2610
why does it matter so much that currency have a fixed relative value on longer timescales?


[19-Aug-20 11:11 PM] wren#0114
it's hard to articulate; I suppose it feels like shady business. In the short term, it devalues personal savings. In the long term, I need to consider more when I have time to think


[19-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Opponent#3498
crypto doesn't have an inflation mechanism. Deflation is possible I suppose.


[19-Aug-20 11:11 PM] Opponent#3498
we'll see how that turns out.


[19-Aug-20 11:14 PM] jlun2#8758
inflation outpacing your investments & wage stagnation :ts_cry:


[20-Aug-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jpmorgan-chase-reported-talks-post-office-branches-atm-capitol-forum-2020-8

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JPMorgan is reportedly in talks to open Chase ATMs and branches at ...
The proposed plan would also grant JPMorgan "exclusive" rights to seek business with USPS customers, according to the report.
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[20-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Opponent#3498
not sure if politics


[20-Aug-20 01:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1296208350120751106

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Trump is asked to shed light on his thoughts about about the lunatic QAnon conspiracy theory. Instead of denouncing it, he says, "I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate."

"I've heard these are people who love our country," he adds, coming close to an endorse...
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[20-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
yep, so basicly an endorsement.


[20-Aug-20 01:47 AM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they _are_ probably the only people left who like him very much or at all.


[20-Aug-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
ayy lmao what the fuck is reality anymore https://www.businessinsider.com/former-dhs-trump-floated-trading-puerto-rico-for-greenland-2020-8

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Trump floated swapping Puerto Rico for Greenland because 'the peopl...
"He actually said ... could we swap Puerto Rico for Greenland because, in his words, Puerto Rico was 'dirty' and 'the people were poor.'"
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[20-Aug-20 01:48 AM] byte[]#2610
> Trump floated swapping Puerto Rico for Greenland because 'the people were poor' and 'dirty' in Puerto Rico, according to former DHS chief of staff

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[20-Aug-20 01:53 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53692545

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Facebook removes 200,000-strong QAnon group
Facebook has joined Twitter and TikTok in taking action against QAnon conspiracy-theory content.
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[20-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Qanon


[20-Aug-20 01:55 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Qanonballs


[20-Aug-20 01:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
QQ Anon
:sad:


[20-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
A anon


[20-Aug-20 01:56 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ranon


[20-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
@PwnyPony this is actually the first thing I thought when I heard the name


[20-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
but, you know, what Trump says, he's the best kind of correct. _Technically_ correct.


[20-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Opponent#3498
they do love their country... Or rather the image of it they have in their minds.


[20-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There are a lot of conservatives that love America but not americans


[20-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Opponent#3498
americans are poor and dirty.


[20-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Opponent#3498
what's there to love?


[20-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Efy2RCNWoAMIJ1Q?format=jpg&name=medium

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[20-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Should've just gone "fuck trump, we're donating this month's revenue to joe"


[20-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But oh well, gotta be ~neutral~


[20-Aug-20 02:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People think LGBT stuff is political


[20-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean... that really shouldn't be surprising


[20-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until fairly recently women having rights was political and hella controversial


[20-Aug-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/512837-mexico-seeks-to-ban-the-sale-of-junk-food-to-minors

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Mexico seeks to ban the sale of junk food to minors
Numerous Mexican states have introduced legislation aimed at restricting the sale of junk food to minors.
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[20-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc their obesity rate raced past the US;


[20-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hrm, or not


[20-Aug-20 02:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Has increased fast, though


[20-Aug-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/photos-show-sorting-machines-in-tatters-as-reports-emerge-that-usps-is-still-dismantling-processing-equipment/

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Even though Trump-appointed postmaster general Louis DeJoy said on Tuesday that he is “suspending” recent policies that he has enacted that have slowed down mail delivery throughout the United States, new reports are claiming that mail sorting machines are still being dismantl...
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[20-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A Trump lacky _lied_?!


[20-Aug-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shocking, i know


[20-Aug-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

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[20-Aug-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A number of swing states are now suing over it


[20-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
```iirc their obesity rate raced past the US;```
it's an impossible task :wheeze:


[20-Aug-20 03:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Aug-20 03:20 AM] jlun2#8758
really? his base seems to indicate anything is fine as long as libs owned


[20-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
number big life good.


[20-Aug-20 03:21 AM] Opponent#3498
_no exceptions._


[20-Aug-20 03:22 AM] jimm#1439
https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/icnort/finally_an_asymptomatic_study_shows_near_zero/

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498 votes and 338 comments so far on Reddit


[20-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Marukomuru#8409
When did Onion start writing for Business Insider?


[20-Aug-20 03:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when they learned they had future sight


[20-Aug-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/pelosi-postmaster-general-no-intention-replacing-machines-mailboxes-2020-8

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Pelosi says USPS postmaster general told her he has 'no intention' ...
Pelosi tweeted the USPS head has "no intention of replacing the sorting machines, blue mailboxes and other infrastructure that have been removed."
https://i.insider.com/5f3d77d642f43f001ddfddf4?width=1200&format=jpeg


[20-Aug-20 03:30 AM] byte[]#2610
> Pelosi says USPS postmaster general told her he has 'no intention' of replacing the sorting machines and mailboxes that have been removed


[20-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Opponent#3498
of course.  Trump might pull through and reward him greatly.


[20-Aug-20 03:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or pretend he doesnt know him/didnt hire him if it negatively effects his image


[20-Aug-20 03:37 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/senate-intelligence-trump-russia-report/2020/08/18/62a7573e-e093-11ea-b69b-64f7b0477ed4_story.html

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Senate report details security risk posed by 2016 Trump campaign’s ...
The GOP-led Intelligence Committee released its final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.


[20-Aug-20 03:38 AM] Opponent#3498
his image has nowhere lower to go tbh. Him endosing Q-anon is rock bottom.


[20-Aug-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
> The document would read more like a harrowing historical account were it not for mounting evidence that many of the same forces of disruption are lining up for the 2020 election. The top U.S. counterintelligence official recently warned that Russia is again waging a far-reaching interference campaign and favors Trump in the upcoming election.


[20-Aug-20 03:41 AM] byte[]#2610
> The report cited “testimony and other information provided by several witnesses” referring to the possible existence of compromising tapes and witness accounts of Trump’s conduct with women during past visits to Moscow.

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[20-Aug-20 03:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Aug-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
income taxes only


[20-Aug-20 03:45 AM] Opponent#3498
wait, what is he trying to say exactly?


[20-Aug-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
nothing, he has no idea what he's talking about


[20-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it certainly seems that way.


[20-Aug-20 03:49 AM] byte[]#2610
lmao https://www.businessinsider.com/revealed-donald-trump-letters-to-vladimir-putin-miss-universe-russia-2020-8

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Trump told Putin 'I'm a big fan of yours' and asked him to be the g...
Donald Trump invited Putin to the Miss Universe pageant years ago, adding a handwritten all-caps message promising "THE WORLD'S MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN!"
https://i.insider.com/5f3cff3ecdf25a001e84e134?width=1200&format=jpeg


[20-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
any election lately is lead by a smear campaign against all sides.


[20-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Serenity#9645
i cant find a mainstream article on it, but whoa, 12 aug, 2 maryland teens killed a 59 year old guy over his refusal to give them a dollar at a country fair. spitting on him and dancing around him. reports say. the teen that landed the killing blow got anger management course as a charge... your welcome to look it up there is video but i dont want to post non-mainstream articles here


[20-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine what that could do to someone already this hated, when all the wonderful details like this come out.


[20-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
we'll get to 'literally Hitler' level, soon.


[20-Aug-20 03:55 AM] Opponent#3498
@Serenity well, then it's likely fake. This is a rather big one; also a trial finished 8 days after the murder? No way it's moving this fast. So there's that against it.


[20-Aug-20 03:56 AM] byte[]#2610
no way that is real


[20-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Serenity#9645
sorry the court was on 12 aug not the murder


[20-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
justice system is a slow-ass plodding thing. You'd _wish_ it was this rapid.


[20-Aug-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m only finding it on deep conservative news sites


[20-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Serenity#9645
i can understand the confusion


[20-Aug-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and by deep i mean the obscure ones, not "deep state"


[20-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Serenity#9645
me too, but video is video. conservative or not, if its real that he got away with anger management courses and not jail time for murder thats crazy


[20-Aug-20 04:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or it could still be an ongoing trial and the anger management ruling is some news site BS made for reactions


[20-Aug-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/teen-charged-in-deadly-great-frederick-fair-assault-to-serve-probation/article_41b07e8c-e97c-56f7-96bb-7da5be46de9d.html i found this i guess, It says probation. So if that probation is violated he would go to prison.

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Teen charged in deadly Great Frederick Fair assault to serve probation
The second of two teen brothers charged after a man died at the Great Frederick Fair last year was placed on probation Wednesday and ordered to complete an anger management
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[20-Aug-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The juvenile court maintains jurisdiction over a case until the the case is closed or until the respondent ages out of juvenile court, meaning the maximum term of probation the teen could serve in this case would be until he reaches 21, according to Steinmetz.


[20-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Serenity#9645
-murders guy over not giving them money- probation and anger management is perfect for murder!
-me gets juvie time for smoking cigarettes-


[20-Aug-20 04:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Solt scheduled a follow-up disposition hearing for sometime in the fall to determine whether the teen has complied with the terms of his probation, the release states. If the teen is found non-compliant, the judge may consider removing him from the community for placement in a juvenile facility.


[20-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Serenity#9645
the jail system is fucked and needs reform, someone murders a guy and spits on him for not giving them money and probation is fine? but i smoke underage and i get time? thats fucking stupid


[20-Aug-20 04:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
when did you go to juvie?


[20-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Serenity#9645
7-8 years ago?


[20-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe smoking underage stopped me from getting food stamps and section 8 well i was homeless too a few years later


[20-Aug-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this could be their attempt at reforming the jail system. maybe they;re testing if lighter sentences have a more positive rehabilitative effect on teenagers as oppose to a full on prison sentence. :ponkthonk:


[20-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Serenity#9645
government stuff really likes to bring that up every time i apply for anything lol


[20-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Serenity#9645
got a secret clearence for working on aircraft and i had i dont know how many reviews asking me why i was in juvie, like they didnt know...


[20-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Serenity#9645
others i work with even immigrants never knew reviews were a thing


[20-Aug-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
prosecutors fought to get the teenagers tried as adults


[20-Aug-20 04:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Prosecutors had argued from the outset of the case that both teens should be tried as adults, filing motions to move each case to adult court. In the end the court denied both motions, keeping the teens in juvenile court, which has different priorities from the adult system.
> 
> "It’s tough to not want some measure of punishment for this young man, but in the juvenile system that’s certainly not the ultimate goal; it’s rehabilitation," Smith said.


[20-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
Serenity, how old are you? Obviously over whatever legal cut-off is, so I guess it's okay to ask :P


[20-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Serenity#9645
i was homeless and working under the table at 16, waited 2 years living out of a car i wasnt allowed to drive so yeah murder might be tried as a adult i can see it


[20-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Serenity#9645
and im 24


[20-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Serenity#9645
definitely didnt grow up rich or in a good neighborhood, i even tried my hand at running drugs without a license. was good money. but was alot more stable working for a small business for 10 a hour under the table


[20-Aug-20 04:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The younger teen, who was initially charged with manslaughter, first-degree assault and two counts of second-degree assault, pleaded guilty to the single count of manslaughter during a hearing April 29. At a disposition hearing May 15, the 15-year-old was ordered to remain in a juvenile detention facility to complete a behavioral modification program, previous stories indicate.


[20-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
that's pretty impressive, moving from basicly no background to aircraft electronics in such a short timespan. I'd expect there'd be a lot more studying before that.


[20-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Serenity#9645
oh yeah, i went to collage out of pocket for 2 years, got into cable (home cable) repair for 13 a hour. funny i was so scared of hights back then but i had to go up those tall poles. but i did it and eventually got into aircraft electronics from my electrical background and 2 years of collage


[20-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Opponent#3498
was this US or?


[20-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Serenity#9645
i worked at mcdonalds and lived in my car and couch surfed, afterwords i worked at a factory for 12 a hour and got a house, then another factory for 15, then cable repair for 13, so i could have collage and experence to get into computer repair, then i got a offer to  work on aircraft electronics.


[20-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Serenity#9645
this was US, aircraft repair brought me around the world and opened my eyes alot, lived in germany 2019. love it there


[20-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Opponent#3498
right. Yeah, truly a land of opportunity, still. Among all the whining how everything is horrible, you get stories like yours.


[20-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Serenity#9645
im now in lockdown cus corona sceduled to go back to germany 2021. i also have a job offer making more in mannheim. no travel all the time


[20-Aug-20 04:26 AM] jlun2#8758
meanwhile others still cant get a job relevant to their degree, & they even might live nearby in an alternate universe


[20-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Serenity#9645
also fuck kansas, sorry for the 10 people who live there but this place sucks so bad their football team is in a different state lol (yes im there right now)


[20-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Serenity#9645
thats why im in helicopter electronics, i never asked to be here, but i followed a void in the market and was willing to travel. i went to collage for home computer repair and cyber security


[20-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Serenity#9645
follow your passion but give up on your dream and youll find you love what you found way more! i never even thought of working on aircraft before this job was offered to me by a random person on the internet


[20-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Serenity#9645
fun fact me and the auther of my little dashie both work on aircraft and talk every now and again and share our stories lol


[20-Aug-20 04:33 AM] jlun2#8758
nice


[20-Aug-20 04:35 AM] Serenity#9645
he has a really funny stories about how he chugged JP-8 (aircraft diesel) accidentally  and had diesel burps for a week


[20-Aug-20 04:35 AM] byte[]#2610
doesn't add up


[20-Aug-20 04:36 AM] byte[]#2610
> n-Hexane is biotransformed to 2-hexanol and further to 2,5-hexanediol in the body. The conversion is catalyzed by the enzyme cytochrome P450 utilizing oxygen from air. 2,5-Hexanediol may be further oxidized to 2,5-hexanedione, which is neurotoxic and produces a polyneuropathy.[20] In view of this behavior, replacement of n-hexane as a solvent has been discussed. n-Heptane is a possible alternative.[26]


[20-Aug-20 04:37 AM] Serenity#9645
i work on electronics you can tell him about his story, the only fuel i touch is the one for my car and generators when the wall outlets die


[20-Aug-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
even if it weren't acutely toxic


[20-Aug-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
there are very few substances that linger in the body for more than a day, especially not in high enough quantities to cause chemical odor burps


[20-Aug-20 04:38 AM] byte[]#2610
and the main one I know of, ketoacidosis, is associated with imminent liver failure


[20-Aug-20 04:41 AM] Serenity#9645
well like i said he told me the story, i dont know about it so i took it how it was told, bio heath stuff is not the same for everyone and maybe he does have liver problems, mechanics drink alot. i wont doubt him. maybe it was exaggerated i dont know. thats how stories work.


[20-Aug-20 04:44 AM] Serenity#9645
its like reading a hypothetical headline saying "white supremist said bad things to black person!" then you read it and he just said that he didnt like a black actor in a video game and that his performance was mediocre not the whole race bait thing.


[20-Aug-20 04:46 AM] byte[]#2610
what are you talking about lmao


[20-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Serenity#9645
im saying, he told me a story, your saying wrong citing sources and everything. it was ment to be more of a funny thing then a omg we need to break this and prove it wrong. its just a story, it might be wrong but its just that... a story
(also alittle bit of poking fun at media for overblowing everything that is minor)


[20-Aug-20 04:50 AM] byte[]#2610
sure, but this is a channel intended for discussing factual information, not sharing pufferies from colleagues


[20-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
eh, it's in good fun.


[20-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
unless he'd be talking over a relevant discussion, of which there aren't any now


[20-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Serenity#9645
so you want me to respond to someone saying cool you talk to this author! and then share stories like (funny example) and then go omg but my facts to a story about a fanfic author. you just need to chill man not everything needs to be completely serious. maybe have alittle bit of fun with politics. maybe thats what this is missing just a human interaction and not a machine all the time


[20-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Serenity#9645
if politics become relatable then you can have fun with them and tell cool stories!


[20-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Serenity#9645
it doesnt always need to be "donald trump did this" or "biden said this" it can be i have this experience with politics and heres something cool!


[20-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Opponent#3498
fair, but the stories about consuming aircraft fuel isn't _it_ :P


[20-Aug-20 05:00 AM] jlun2#8758
but >>1745284


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[20-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Serenity#9645
i maybe off topic but it was related to the politics of what you said the american dream and progressing from homeless to middle class. people argued agaisnt it and "thats cool",  was to more add on was just kinda a funny thing i heard. you might be correct but i dont see why it needs to be so serious all the time


[20-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe thats why people are so angry all the time here, you cant find a middle ground and laugh, not against you opponent just against the few that need something to be angry at


[20-Aug-20 05:06 AM] jlun2#8758
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[20-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Serenity#9645
i maybe the minority here but id much rather hear politics of individual people then what CNN or FOX says. so what from your personal experience do you think needs changing? not from a news article but from what has affected you. i have a laundry list of things because im gay and was refused to get government benefits that i saw others get no problem that made more then me. ive been in the system ive been arrested for smoking tobacco i want change there. so many things from my experience. thats why im not conservative, but what is effecting you? what should i learn from your experience?


[20-Aug-20 05:18 AM] jlun2#8758
things affecting me in some way: stagnate wages, school fees, job experience trap, housing prices outpacing inflation & old insisting its not a problem while voting for things that make me go :roseconfused: but why


[20-Aug-20 05:21 AM] Serenity#9645
because i agree with you on most, the job/experience trap is absolute bullshit. but i can say your lucky with buying a house but screwed with rent from my travels and udnerstanding. the old man circus is a 2 party bullshit thing that needs change. stagnent wages trust me i know at mcdonalds i made 7.25 half a year later new hires made 8 and i made... 7.25 knowing every station


[20-Aug-20 05:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of healthcare, most of the things listed above, lack of social programs, new negative devlopments in the usps, lack of a decent wage, lack of jobs offering said decent wages, lack of college course availability


[20-Aug-20 05:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lack of mobility


[20-Aug-20 05:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reaganomics!


[20-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Serenity#9645
lack of healthcare, have you ever had public healthcare? it sucks i paid for mine when i lived in a country with it, you dont get help. social programs in the US are shit you heard my story, other places you get aproved based on how you are in life not because of stupid shit. lack of decent wage well i admit 7.25 sucked but i got collage and a phone and gas from it, it sucked but was livable. lack of jobs is from the inconsistent tax placing more tax on small businesses and no real help other then starting loans another thing i really want change for. lack of collage, i got collage well i was homeless, lack of good collage maybe but collage is still there if you look for it and it is afforable if you set the bar lower not everyone in the country can do harvard. lack of mobility, trains everywhere sucks in NYC or germany there wont be a good cross country transport system for awhile sad to say but a cheep car and some technical know-how for a cheep car will beat the hour long wait for a train and being late


[20-Aug-20 05:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a small pile of groceries costed me $57 the other day, that was the cheap stuff


[20-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Serenity#9645
funny a small pile of grceries that last me 4 weeks cost me $20


[20-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Serenity#9645
but in germany that would cost me $5 so i can understand the pain


[20-Aug-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
is $19k considered a cheap car?


[20-Aug-20 05:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because thats about my area options


[20-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Serenity#9645
i dont eat out, i cook rice, i cook chicken, i cook vegtables. its bland but it gives me most of my nutrition and i buy in bulk usually. i was homeless so i made due with a $6 bag of rice, a $10 3 chicken pack and had to debone myself and a 3x $2 bags of mixed vegtables


[20-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Serenity#9645
facebook marketplace, before that when i got my first car i asked everywhere and got a 89 blazer for 300$ but i needed to work on it


[20-Aug-20 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i a;so don;t knwo shit about machinery and given my last college run, i am not engineer/mechanically minded. i;m more in the academic/archival skill sets


[20-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Serenity#9645
good thing neither was i! i didnt know crap about cars. so i asked friends to help and i did it


[20-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Serenity#9645
but later craigslist was a thing and i got my best car yet, using my knowledge from fiends i bought a 05 impala it lasted me many many years for 1k


[20-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Serenity#9645
now im middle class and spent 18k on a 2017 hybrid hyundai sonata with a 10 year warrenty i got in december with 12k miles


[20-Aug-20 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m in upper poverty, lack a drivers license, and available college courses for the study i would be of any use in


[20-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Serenity#9645
i still feal bad for it, i kinda wanna go back to my manual $300 days cus its just too fancy even if i make more then enough to own it


[20-Aug-20 05:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now i wish we had a costco here, i;ve heard costco is great to work at


[20-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Serenity#9645
i went once in germany, didnt know you needed a membership card lol


[20-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Serenity#9645
i never lived next to one or truely been inside of one


[20-Aug-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart tried to move to germany once and failed hard because germany's labor laws didn;t allow them to abuse people the way they did in america


[20-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Serenity#9645
you are absolutely correct! in kauflands people sit at regesters and are treated very nicely!


[20-Aug-20 05:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i would probably have a better shot at moving upwards if i didnt live in america


[20-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
yes and no, in germany there are many programs but taxes are crazy. your better off making alot in america and moving there like me. they have a program for homeless people. the governement will help them get a min wage job and for a short time give them a apartment close to the job. but in reality you make more money in the us even if the housing situation is worse, its great to move there but only if you are on your feet.


[20-Aug-20 05:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I could afford to get myself checked medically, and my only job option wouldnt be walmart or bust


[20-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
ah no, public healthcare fucked me for a year with lower back problems, never got seen


[20-Aug-20 05:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m more thinking the scandinavian countries than germany but possibly germany


[20-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
had to pay and pay alot more to get seen


[20-Aug-20 05:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i cant even be seen once, it would get me a bill of $100+ just to walk intot he front door


[20-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Serenity#9645
trust me when i say that $100 bill is better then waiting 10 hours to be told you cant be helped


[20-Aug-20 05:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not if you;re broke as shit!


[20-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Serenity#9645
maybe but still think of waiting 10 hours, missing a day of work to make more to be told to fuck off we cant help you. or we can help you in 2 years.


[20-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
it sucks bad, i wish medicare for all would work but in the countries that have it you just dont get help. they dont work 24/7. doctors dont work 12+ hours a day like in the US. you get told if your in alot of pain were closed, you get told your leg might be broken but 1 year and we will fix it


[20-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Serenity#9645
i know these things happen alot more in the us we need more regulation for work environments. but public healthcare just trust me your better off paying


[20-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Serenity#9645
it sucks it really does but ive worked with free healthcare for 3 years and tomarrow they finally are getting me a MRI! and these doctors will probably tell me 3 years of back pain is fine, like they told me with my xray 6 months ago


[20-Aug-20 06:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my only options for employment are walmart, if i have to ;pay off medical debt with my lakc of insurance, i'm goign to be 80 by the time i pay it off


[20-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Serenity#9645
a paid doctor like i hired told me yeah high possability of a slipped disk there is no reason for back pain over a week none the less 3 years. told my free doctor, he told me i was fine! cus i cant afford back surgery or a MRI myself thats why 3 years later im getting one


[20-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Serenity#9645
*MRI not surgery


[20-Aug-20 06:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[20-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Serenity#9645
so i saved up money and im now ready to pay for a surgery out of pocket cus other free heathcare people, they all had botched surgeries. free healthcare put me in physical therpy before i had any scans! that probably hurt me more that the paid doctor said cus they didnt know what was wrong with no scan!


[20-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Serenity#9645
im just saying dont trust the gov with your health pay and get it done right dont be stupid like me. even if you owe for 5 years thats 5 years you are fixed and not 3+ years of discovery and more pain like me!


[20-Aug-20 06:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Hello? based department?
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[20-Aug-20 06:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Based rooftop Koreans to the rescue.


[20-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Based lit gamer pog Koreans


[20-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stop regulating guns like this


[20-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
All you have to do is make screening for mental illness mandatory for any public school


[20-Aug-20 06:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
^
Or at least that's better than infringing on gun rights.


[20-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The goal is to stop mentally ill people from hurting others


[20-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
screening for mental illness would cull out so many people


[20-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
2/3rds of congress just barred


[20-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
To some degree, mentally ill people who desire to hurt others don't deserve the same rights protections as other people


[20-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sensible red flag laws make sense


[20-Aug-20 06:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
but muh slippery slope tho


[20-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Who decides "I want to protect my family from violent rapists" is OK but "I want to keep them fuckin' NIGGERS away from my Anabelle" isn't


[20-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Objective scientific testing and judicial review.


[20-Aug-20 06:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
I dislike red flag laws.


[20-Aug-20 06:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, you just spelled out why that'll never happen in the US, then


[20-Aug-20 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
> who decides 
completely serious, almost certainly some old white guy


[20-Aug-20 06:46 AM] jlun2#8758
forever (not the same old white guy, just always by an old white guy)


[20-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Serenity#9645
i kinda like castle doctrine, some states are too far like attemping to enter property can be shot. but if you break onto my property and threaten me (non-violently or violently) i would want to defend however i can no matter who it is.


[20-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Serenity#9645
no one should fear for their life or property in a civilized society.


[20-Aug-20 06:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[20-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Serenity#9645
most people like to talk about a house, but i extend this to a car or tent. if someone is legally allowed to be there then no one should be allowed to get away with robbery or threat of life


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Ability to defend yourself has nothing to do with deterrence.


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you ignore the "keep out" sign, you forfeit your safety.


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
There will always be conflict of some nature including robbery.


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Gun rights are important.


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Nebbie#8545
Guns just ensure that you end up gloating about how you killed someone, which fukked over part of society.


[20-Aug-20 07:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Good.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the net, it's a huge problem to be killing people for robbery.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, very bad.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, you're basically saying you're more important than everyone else.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's an incredibly selfish perspective.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Serenity#9645
so your a fan of robbery and not self safety? you never know when a robber will kill you for your stuff?


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you break into my house, I should be able to legally kill you.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers should be dealt with by the court system.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
Proportional to what they did.


[20-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
They should not be murdered over it.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
No. Fuck robbers.
Don't wanna get shot? Don't rob.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Phelan#7647
If you break into my house or property, I'm not sure that you're gonna just steal stuff.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Serenity#9645
so im at home someone breaks in and they got a baseball bat. i should just get on my knees and say yes daddy please rob me?


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Phelan#7647
It's unfortunate, but they valued their own life less than what they're looting.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
If someone threatens you, you should defend yourself.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
But you shouldn't be finding excuses to murder people.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Breaking in *is* threatening.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Serenity#9645
^^^^^^^


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Phelan#7647
Breaking and entering is inherently violent.


[20-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
Depends a lot on the form of it.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
No.
It's fucking simple.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breaking and entering literally covers, like, lokkpikking and just strutting in.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Serenity#9645
oh ill open the door for the nice person who asked to rob me!


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's simple if your goal is to murder people, yes.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
This mindset leads to horrific consequences.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Respect boundaries and you won't get shot.


[20-Aug-20 07:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
People killed over next to nothing.


[20-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
Often, people killed who weren't actually breaking in.


[20-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scream "I have a gun, who is it"


[20-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Serenity#9645
dont rob people dont trespass dont get shot, you scream i got a gun you will get killed faster then if you dont


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Your life is as valuable as the robber's life.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you can't accept this, you really shouldn't be part of society.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Neither of you should be using lethal force against the other.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you are a robber, you forfeit your safety.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think Nebbie is talking about an Amber Guyger situation


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
they know your there and know your armed wooo your now a threat to a violent robber!


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
If one does, the other should of course defend.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
No. He didn't have to be a robber.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's irrelevant.


[20-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
His life still has value.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, a life is a life. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
No


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He should be held accountable for committing the robbery.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Breaking and entering is a violent act that justifies force up to and potentially including lethal force


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'd kill any person who breaks into my home.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem, @Itsthinking, is people respond to bypassing a lokk with a shotgun to kill someone.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
Or they like, leave traps for robbers.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Serenity#9645
how so? you deside to rob a place, you are threatening me and my safety. do i ask if they are armed? do i ask to get on my knees? what do i do other then defend the people there with me?


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The traps thing by the way isn't legal.


[20-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah spring guns aren't cool.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Very illegal.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Phelan#7647
It's not a "I want to kill them", it's "I don't want my life to go down the drain"


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
Generally robbers are just out to like, take something to sell it.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
Booby traps are already illegal, but that's a separate discussion.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They are not there to murder you.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
On the chance one is, that's when self defense comes into play.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
If they valued their lives, they wouldn't break into my house.


[20-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But in general you should not be looking for a chance to use lethal force to defend things.


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
Don't break in.


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Phelan#7647
If someone breaks into my house, how do I know that they're just gonna steal stuff and leave me alone.


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Primarily by how they are acting, especially when you confront them.


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
so a robber is out to steal from me, they might be armed. do i take the chance to ask hey do you wanna kill me  and my family for my stuff or just take it? then i get shot. game over


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most people will run the hell away if you point a gun at them.


[20-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Phelan#7647
Not one that also has a gun


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
You do not need to shoot first and ask questions later.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is looking for a chance


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
Guns aren't for threats. They're for actions.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why not both


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Phelan#7647
Also, just pointing a gun at someone is a bad practice (so are warning shots)


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
I beg to differ greatly, @Itsthinking.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
LOTS of people fantasize about murdering robbers.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Mostly for racial reasons.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I think that's a stretch


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
If someone breaks into my home, I'd put one through them.


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Serenity#9645
so i have a baseball bat, so does the robber, does the robber wanna run or hit me in the head? should i take that chance?


[20-Aug-20 07:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
The idea is like, they could be justified shooting a blakk guy that came to rob them.


[20-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking Treyvon Martin.


[20-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Phelan#7647
... is that seriously what you're getting out of that.
If a white guy broke into my house and I had a gun ready, he's getting shot.


[20-Aug-20 07:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Pacific Islander. It doesn't matter.
BLAM


[20-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Serenity#9645
you broke into my house threating me and whoever is there, my boyfriend my friends, and you expect me to just get on my knees?


[20-Aug-20 07:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[20-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
A person robbing you and a person asking you to get on your knees are very different things.


[20-Aug-20 07:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck robbers.


[20-Aug-20 07:11 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm not going to let him take shit when I can make him leave


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] >That Guy#3386
They can go die.
Being shot was a risk they took when they decided to become robbers.


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Phelan#7647
I don't know what the intentions of the robber is or if they have a gun, rather be safe than sorry.


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This isn't me having a bad hand like being mugged unarmed at night on the street


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
In that case holy fuck just give them your wallet


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
But breaking into a house? Fuck no.


[20-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
so i get on my knees and you expect them to just ignore me and not hit me with the baseball bat? a conscious witness is a good one


[20-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Approach and threaten, but do not shoot unless you see them threatening bakk, is the sane approach.


[20-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Serenity#9645
rule on society DONT BREAK INTO PEOPLES HOMES


[20-Aug-20 07:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Breaking and entering should not preclude someone from basic considerations.


[20-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Serenity#9645
you approch and threaten and your layed out bleeding out from a gunshot wound good job your now dead!


[20-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Serenity#9645
but at least the robber is still alive


[20-Aug-20 07:14 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not to mention these are people who've already showed no respect for my property or the sovereignty of my home.
And i'm supposed to show compassion for them in the middle of the night while they're robbing me?
Fuck no. Robbers get shot. They knew that when they broke in.


[20-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Phelan#7647
Not breaking and entering is going against basic considerations.


[20-Aug-20 07:15 AM] >That Guy#3386
Breaking and entering ***is*** threatening.


[20-Aug-20 07:15 AM] Serenity#9645
good job guys we ended discrimination, you died but the robber is alive and has your stuff!


[20-Aug-20 07:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck robbers. It's common sense that if you break into someone's home you forfeit your safety. It's been this way since the dawn of civilization.


[20-Aug-20 07:17 AM] >That Guy#3386
If they wanted my hospitality, they should have asked for it.


[20-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Serenity#9645
how fucking stupid can you be to expect someone who already doesnt care about you enough to steal from you and your family to care about you and your safety? what if i was poor and barely making by and you stole my means of life now i gotta save and buy that back legally cus i didnt fight back and he didnt kill me cus im a idiot that confronted a guy that might have a gun?


[20-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
The assumption that everyone has a gun is a bit crazy, you should be able to tell whether someone does or not.


[20-Aug-20 07:19 AM] >That Guy#3386
What dumb robber doesn't have a gun?


[20-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Nebbie#8545
A lot of robbers do not carry weapons in when they rob.


[20-Aug-20 07:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Tough luck.
BLAM


[20-Aug-20 07:20 AM] Serenity#9645
alot of people do! gorge floyd did when he robbed! why is anyone else different?


[20-Aug-20 07:20 AM] >That Guy#3386
Let's not bring Floyd into this.


[20-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Not every robber is the same, it's not good to generalize so much about situations.


[20-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Serenity#9645
no not every robber is but why is it that i should suspect that this one isnt?


[20-Aug-20 07:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Someone breaking the rules by robbing you should not deny them of everything.


[20-Aug-20 07:21 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's not my job to be considerate for robbers.


[20-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
You should come weapon drawn and confront, if you see the robber holding or reach for a weapon, then shoot.


[20-Aug-20 07:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yes it should. It's my sovereign property. If you enter without permission, I'll kill you.


[20-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Serenity#9645
hey what are you doing! *BLAM* im dead


[20-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Serenity#9645
your argument sucks


[20-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's a disproportionate response to someone who could be a family member who came in unannounced because the door was open, or a robber who was just trying to take something small and sell it.


[20-Aug-20 07:23 AM] >That Guy#3386
No permission = no hospitality = BLAM


[20-Aug-20 07:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
If I shoot a family member who was too dumb to knock, that'd be a mistake. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to kill robbers though.


[20-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Phelan#7647
>take something small


[20-Aug-20 07:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Don't take any of my shit.


[20-Aug-20 07:24 AM] Serenity#9645
idk where you were raised but people say "im home!" or knock and say "hey buddy!" not just* opens door and rummages inside of living room*


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It highly depends on family situations, it could be someone who didn't want to wake you up if you were asleep, possibly one who lives there off and on.


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general, you should assess the situation to some extent before taking action.


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Serenity#9645
in germany we have intercom systems in most homes, makes a annoying ring and thats how you open the door by a button.


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Phelan#7647
Thing is, if that were the case, it'd be super common.
People really don't just come in unannounced.


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
A flashlight on someone poking around is a generally good idea before you try and kill them.


[20-Aug-20 07:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
Sure I'll think.
If I think it's a robber, I'll shoot them.


[20-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Serenity#9645
you dont just go oh someone is opening the door at 11 pm im sure its locked must be a friend!


[20-Aug-20 07:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
>shine flashlight
>robber shoots you


[20-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
The sudden increase in light would put him at a severe disadvantage.


[20-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
You would hav a moment to assess and react.


[20-Aug-20 07:27 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.


[20-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Serenity#9645
*shots fired you get hit* but the light made him aim off!


[20-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
Shooting someone in the dark is a generally bad idea, you won't know what you're aiming at.


[20-Aug-20 07:27 AM] Serenity#9645
shooting someone you know shouldnt be there is not


[20-Aug-20 07:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
Shoot six times.


[20-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Phelan#7647
I think something like 400-500 people die in accidental shootings a year.
Yea it sucks, but it's not a huge huge amount considering that the US has 350M people.


[20-Aug-20 07:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
That's mostly retards who didn't know how to clean their guns.


[20-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Serenity#9645
how many home robberies are in the US, how many did the guy who broke in hurt the owner?


[20-Aug-20 07:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
Or innocent bystanders in proximity to said retards.


[20-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Serenity#9645
robbers are usually smart and attack when no one is home, only the dumb ones attack when people are home. cus they will be shot. accidents aside if your dumb enough to break into my home gun or knife i will defend


[20-Aug-20 07:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck robbers.
If you violate the sovereignty of my home, without asking for the benefit of my hospitality, you have forfieted your safety, and I will treat you as hostile.
If you don't want to die, don't break in.


[20-Aug-20 07:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
If you break in anyway, being killed is a risk you take willingly.


[20-Aug-20 07:32 AM] Serenity#9645
yep


[20-Aug-20 07:35 AM] Serenity#9645
think if you have a child or family, someone opens your door or breaks a window and gets in. do you-
A tell your family to get on their knees and endure whatever the robbers want, including rape, theft, assault or murder.
B fight back and stop them before they can do harm and protect those around you


[20-Aug-20 07:38 AM] Serenity#9645
or C yell like a idiot for a chance they might be "friendly" robbers and not do A


[20-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
Nobody is arguing for A.


[20-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
It is a strawman.


[20-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Serenity#9645
ok so B or C


[20-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
The only argument is about assessing the situation to any extent before using force.


[20-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yelling is a stupid idea.


[20-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Serenity#9645
is there a D?


[20-Aug-20 07:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
There is a problem with B, actually


[20-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
It assumes that a robber is attakking you outright from the getgo.


[20-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers do not like, teleport behind you.


[20-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Serenity#9645
do you know that? thats assumption that they are "friendly robbers"


[20-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Nebbie#8545
No, that is not the assumption.


[20-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
Robbers can generally be expected to be some distance away, and can be threatened, at which point they will flee.


[20-Aug-20 07:42 AM] Nebbie#8545
(They can also be expected to notice you pointing the gun at them within about half a second)


[20-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Serenity#9645
youll be surprised they can almost "teleport behind you" they will get in, live in ex-projects everything is fair game without protection lol


[20-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they make any indication they are about to attakk, then you of course fight/shoot them.


[20-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they flee, there is no reason to shoot them.


[20-Aug-20 07:43 AM] Serenity#9645
my neighbor had installed CCTV cams and we called 911 ALOT some breaking onto windows quietly


[20-Aug-20 07:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
`It assumes that a robber is attakking you outright from the getgo.`
Breaking in is an act of hostility and will be met with full force.


[20-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Serenity#9645
so someone you know shouldnt be there, watch them quietly and make sure they wont hurt you but leave them alone if they are stealing things. what if they see you and draw your assuming they are "friendly"


[20-Aug-20 07:45 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If a robber tries to attack you and doesn’t run as soon as he sees you then you’re allowed to wound and restrain him.


[20-Aug-20 07:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
You're allowed to wound/restrain him as soon as he steps over the threshold.


[20-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Phelan#7647
I keep saying this, how can you guarantee that the guy isn't gonna shoot anyone inside. Realistically, people don't want to kill another person, but people also want to stay alive.


[20-Aug-20 07:46 AM] Serenity#9645
nothing you say for a "friendly robber" can be seen, anyone breaking and entering is seen as a threat. they might be armed no matter how much they steal from you!


[20-Aug-20 07:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
^


[20-Aug-20 07:48 AM] Serenity#9645
no matter if you yell, watch, or kneel down. they can at any time draw a weapon and end your life.


[20-Aug-20 07:48 AM] >That Guy#3386
And robbing in and of itself is cause to be shot.

There's an easy way to not get shot in this situation: don't break into my house.


[20-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Serenity#9645
you already know they are not "friendly" because they are robbing you! what will stop them at shooting you too? yeah maybe some wont and is unarmed. but pocket pistols are a thing!


[20-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Derringers


[20-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Serenity#9645
bersa thunder is pretty small and based off the mararov, they are cheep and fit in most pockets


[20-Aug-20 07:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
Fuck bastards who want to damage my property, violate my privacy, endanger my family, and take the shit I work hard all week to earn. If they're cocky enough to risk breaking and entering, I'll fucking kill them.


[20-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Serenity#9645
8 shots of .380 alot of room for error there at a low price! 8 shots to kill you not including spare mags


[20-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Serenity#9645
all for saying stop robbing me, or watching and being spotted just incase its a "friendly robber"


[20-Aug-20 07:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
I have no sympathy for robbers. If they break in, they will be met with no hospitality.
A home that you break into may as well be a warzone, because you'll be treated like an invader.


[20-Aug-20 07:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[20-Aug-20 07:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
When you break in, you gamble your life. If you die, sucks to be you.


[20-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Serenity#9645
this is just tiring and i need to goto bed but just wow, i still cant believe someone actually thinks if they are robbing me they might be "friendly" so i should just watch them rob me and make sure they dont kill me before i defend myself


[20-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Wound them not kill.


[20-Aug-20 07:58 AM] >That Guy#3386
Have you ever fired a gun?
"Shooting to wound" is a myth. You always aim for the center.


[20-Aug-20 07:59 AM] Serenity#9645
aim center mass you have the best odd of actually hitting


[20-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Serenity#9645
aiming for the legs means a high chance of a miss even on a non-moving paper target at 50m its so small you just cant even with a good well trained shot (by pistol)


[20-Aug-20 08:02 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, people who say "shoot the legs or arm" really need to try it.


[20-Aug-20 08:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
And again, the robber is the intruder in this scenario. I shouldn't have to be the considerate one when they've already broken into ***my home***.


[20-Aug-20 08:03 AM] Serenity#9645
^^^^^


[20-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Here’s the thing, if the intruder sees the gun, they aren’t gunna try to attack, their first instinct would likely be to hide or run


[20-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Opponent#3498
```They are not there to murder you.
On the chance one is, that's when self defense comes into play.```
by the time you found that out, it's a bit too late.


[20-Aug-20 08:26 AM] wren#0114
>flashlight
night vision bro


[20-Aug-20 08:29 AM] Opponent#3498
well actually yeah, NV is reasonably cheap. I also liked the idea of CCTV's very much.


[20-Aug-20 08:31 AM] Opponent#3498
personally, I don't think I'd shoot on sight at someone uninvited in my house, but that's because I'd make sure I know where they are and what they are before confronting them.


[20-Aug-20 08:33 AM] Opponent#3498
lethal traps are bad because you always have a chance of tripping them yourself. I _don't_ trust myself 100% of the time nor do I trust those around me, people be idiots. And it's not worth trapping an uninhabited building.


[20-Aug-20 08:34 AM] Nebbie#8545
In the main case of it in the US, the couple had the traps active while they were at another home.


[20-Aug-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Naturally whenever the story is told, the couple is presented as rather poor.


[20-Aug-20 08:35 AM] Nebbie#8545
Despite having 2 fukking homes a significant driving distance away from each other.


[20-Aug-20 08:35 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, no. If it's _strictly_ my shit vs their life, fine. Don't care, if I wanted to keep it safe _that much_, I'd arrange for someone to keep an eye out.


[20-Aug-20 08:36 AM] Nebbie#8545
The robber got seriously injured, but didn't die, and got a really shitty pile of medical bills from it and permenant disability.


[20-Aug-20 08:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
The couple was eventually sued and they lost hard.


[20-Aug-20 08:37 AM] Opponent#3498
yikes.


[20-Aug-20 08:41 AM] Phelan#7647

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[20-Aug-20 08:44 AM] Opponent#3498
nice angle. Where's this one from?


[20-Aug-20 08:52 AM] Phelan#7647
California, saw it on Twitter.


[20-Aug-20 09:20 AM] Opponent#3498
btw I've seen a wonderful non-lethal deterrent used here. A bright projector, triggered by a motion sensor.


[20-Aug-20 09:23 AM] Opponent#3498
it seems people get discouraged for trying to break into a car when they're lit like a beacon in the night all of a sudden. Same for trying to force a window, for instance.


[20-Aug-20 09:24 AM] Opponent#3498
of course, you can't really stick those everywhere, so it's not always viable.


[20-Aug-20 10:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I mentioned that shining a flashlight on people has an effect, but it was dismissed as they'd just shoot you while you're fukking temporarily blinding them.


[20-Aug-20 10:22 AM] Nebbie#8545
Of course, having it automated means if they do shoot, they don't hit anything, and then they run from realizing they're likely to be caught.


[20-Aug-20 10:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/20/europe/russia-navalny-hospitalized-intl-hnk/index.html

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Russian opposition leader and outspoken Kremlin critic Alexey Navalny was unconscious and on a ventilator in a hospital Thursday in Siberia after falling ill from suspected poisoning, his spokesperson said.
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[20-Aug-20 10:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53830528

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Shocking images emerge of police cell tragedy
New images show a police officer giving a Nazi salute while the Slovak man was pinned down on a bed.
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[20-Aug-20 10:51 AM] wren#0114
my dad trained for invaders in subs, where you have handguns and flashlights and mostly all small corridors. he said you have to hold the flashlight way off to the side to draw away fire as you round corners and stuff


[20-Aug-20 01:25 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Aug-20 01:44 PM] Opponent#3498
@Nebbie the idea in the case I described isn't to blind. Those are mounted on the outside (on the balcony, for instance, in case of older apartment complexes, overlooking the car; getting a proper place to store it, a garage or a secure parking lot, can be a bear), and are meant to discourage trying anything at night, as well as an early warning system. On a street there's a lot of false positives for latter, it's more of a blanket 'keep moving, asshole' thing, but on private property I imagine the setup would be pretty damn reliable. Can add a camera into it, for example, some sort of alarm, it's flexible.


[20-Aug-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[20-Aug-20 02:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1296274065762717696?s=21

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HE SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN, AND GOT CAUGHT!
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[20-Aug-20 03:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair I'm sure ratshot from a shotgun won't kill them


[20-Aug-20 03:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
or maybe birdshot


[20-Aug-20 03:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/senate-intel-committee-report-russia-election-interference-biggest-takeaways-2020-8

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A Republican-led Senate panel found that ex-Trump campaign chairman...
The Senate Intelligence Committee found no evidence that Ukraine tried to meddle in the 2016 election and confirmed many of Mueller's findings.
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[20-Aug-20 03:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
having lots of little BBs inside your body is probably pretty incapacitating


[20-Aug-20 03:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
aren't shotguns supposed to be good home defense anyway?


[20-Aug-20 03:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
ratshot should have quite wide spread and not have any particular BB generally be lethal, nasty to remove, very painful, probably gonna go into a bit of shock, but not terribly lethal unless it hits you in the wrong part of the neck


[20-Aug-20 03:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
actually probably birdshot given ratshot has very little stopping power whatsoever lol


[20-Aug-20 03:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you're protecting your property, even 9mm will destroy quite a bit lol


[20-Aug-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
you're not going to accidentally kill your housemate in another room with birdshot


[20-Aug-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
or have it sail through several rooms which even 9mm can do


[20-Aug-20 03:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
idk it seems a bit silly to be protecting your property with something that's going to sail through several walls and destroy way more property


[20-Aug-20 03:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
like if property is your concern here


[20-Aug-20 03:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
reconsidered against ratshot cus that aint stopping a crackhead, but birdshot should lol


[20-Aug-20 03:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
crackheads are wild, though if you're friends with them your local crackhead will probably deal with most things better than a cop :' )


[20-Aug-20 03:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
just get em a ciggie after, faster response time too


[20-Aug-20 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53844958

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Russian opposition leader Navalny 'poisoned'
Alexei Navalny is seriously ill in hospital in Omsk after his plane made an emergency landing.
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[20-Aug-20 03:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Poor Alexey :sad:


[20-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Hey


[20-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember that GoFundMe campaign half a year ago to build Trump's wall for him?


[20-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well you won't imagine what happened next...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/steve-bannon-among-4-arrested-indicted-in-online-fundraising-scheme-doj-announces

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[20-Aug-20 04:01 PM] >That Guy#3386
They arrested Bannon? 
Holy shit.


[20-Aug-20 04:11 PM] wren#0114
wew


[20-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Good.


[20-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He'll just get pardoned.


[20-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Why does media and normies always call the Caesar salute "Hitler salute". :ponkthonk:


[20-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Nazi propaganda was successful globally.


[20-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because the people throwing up that sign today aren't heiling Caesar.


[20-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Although many of those same people do idolize a mostly fictional version of Rome.


[20-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm not sure Trump will pardon Bannon anyway

They got on pretty bad terms after a while.


[20-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
With Trump mostly disavowing him and calling him "Sloppy Steve"


[20-Aug-20 04:20 PM] byte[]#2610
He was too busy sucking his own cock


[20-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>we build a wall being a fraud
https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

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[20-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The meme president missed the opportunity to immortalize him as "Scumbag Steve."

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[20-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/512892-fbi-apologizes-for-lack-of-context-after-tweeting-anti-semitic-document

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The FBI has apologized for a Wednesday tweet linking to its file on the notorious anti-Semitic forgery “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”
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[20-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Definitely one of the longer lasting conspiracy theories


[20-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why the fuck does the FBI have a twitter bot is my question


[20-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
FOIA requests I think?


[20-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
why wouldn't it have a twitter bot :wheeze:


[20-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, I know what the bot does, but why


[20-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why twitter and not just a log on their own site


[20-Aug-20 04:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's like if NSA had a Tumblr to post updates about daily terror threat levels


[20-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well their very own President, that infallible symbol of America and Free World, he's using Twitter to warn the people of the existential threats they're faced with :twismug:  If it's good enough for him it's good enough for alphabet agencies right? :twismug:


[20-Aug-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-opponent-alexei-navalny-reportedly-poisoned-by-toxin-in-his-tea

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Putin Critic Alexey Navalny Allegedly Poisoned by Toxin in His Tea
The Russian anti-corruption activist was rushed to the hospital in an unconscious state on Thursday morning, according to his press secretary.
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[20-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(again, was poisoned a few months ago too)


[20-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta wonder why, he's not really relevant past the memes from the looks of it. This can turn him into a martyr (another one)


[20-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
May be less because he's personally a threat and more to scare any other would-be dissidents from standing up to Putin. "Stay in your place or we'll get you."


[20-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
well, people are already operating under that ruleset anyway.


[20-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
he's not the first. He _is_ the most high-profile so far though.


[20-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's probably some LARPers with no affiliation to Putin that think they have to do this sort of shit to protect the federation


[20-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, unfortunately likely.


[20-Aug-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/3b5s7lei85i51.jpg

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[20-Aug-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
"Would you like some tea?"
--"No, sir."
--"No thank you."


[20-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnuoszgFLNI

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vanillacokehead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnuoszgFLNI
"Drink Your Juice..." from "The Fair Haired Hare" (1950)
so do any other parents out there feel the same way when trying to feed the kids breakfast?
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[20-Aug-20 05:25 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Drink your 🔯s.


[20-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
do not drink people


[20-Aug-20 05:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You cannot drink people anyway, because humans are solid


[20-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
You can if you are a vampire, but still, don't.


[20-Aug-20 05:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, vampires drink their blood, not their whole body


[20-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/mamabearkingdom/status/1296263551368286208?s=21

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https://twitter.com/mamabearkingdom/status/1296263551368286208?s=21
We regret to inform you funny pogchamp emote man is a shitty GOPer covid conspiracy theorist https://t.co/oESDZSAVYl
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[20-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's not very poggers of him


[20-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>humans are solid
lol, average human is about 60% water
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[20-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ice is made of water too and it's solid. Water =/= liquid


[20-Aug-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you just need an industrial sized blender


[20-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
I'm made of crow

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[20-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
caw

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[20-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Crow#5457
:caw:

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[20-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>Human's body temperature is below 0°C
Human's typical body temperature is somewhere around 37°C
@Dr. Mechano


[20-Aug-20 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Humans are solid, yes. Our brains are solid, our bones too, our organs, our skin, only our "life juice" isn't. And i'd believe the visible, more important parts are the ones to define who we are, so yeah, we're solid


[20-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I like crows.

they are apparently one of the few bird species that will still regularly visit their parents after leaving the nest.


[20-Aug-20 05:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Crow can crows be liquid?


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>blood is the only fluid thing in a human
can you stop cracking me up at every message? :twismug:


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
no


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
crows are the most solid objects in existence


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Crow#5457
black holes are just really large crows


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They are made of firm moral character.


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Crows are more solid than a diamond's boner, everyone knows that.


[20-Aug-20 05:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Moon Flower i didn't say that


[20-Aug-20 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I said "life force" and that implicitly includes water and nutrients


[20-Aug-20 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
~~also maybe our cum~~


[20-Aug-20 05:54 PM] ononim#8141
@byte[] not sure who's in the middle but I am sure Saudi King would benefit from some refreshing tea :))))


[20-Aug-20 05:55 PM] byte[]#2610
same


[20-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/20/donald-trump-tax-returns-federal-judge-manhattan-da

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Move clears way for Manhattan’s district attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr, to get president’s tax returns
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[20-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://globalnews.ca/news/7287442/bc-us-border-fence/

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Fence erected on stretch of Canada-U.S. border near Vancouver
U.S. officials say the barrier is meant to address "bi-national safety concerns related to a vulnerable section of the border."
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[20-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Moon Flower#6088
The lie is "bi-national", only Canada's safety is in danger. :twismug:


[20-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1296209412852334592

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Reporter: "The crux of the theory is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from this satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals. Does that sound like something that you are behind?"

President Trump: "I haven't heard that. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?" https...
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[20-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
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[20-Aug-20 06:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Any updates on Belarus?


[20-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/eu-leaders-seek-ramp-pressure-belarus-leader-lukashenko-200819084402186.html

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EU rejects Belarus vote result, warns of imminent new sanctions
The EU sanctions will hit 'a substantial number of individuals responsible for violence, repression and election fraud'.
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2020/8/19/ef0372c363264d25bfd356a0472038a3_18.jpg


[20-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
from a day ago


[20-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53846815

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Belarus opens criminal case against opposition
The chief prosecutor accuses the opposition's Coordination Council of trying to seize power.
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[20-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Crow#5457
from 3 hours ago


[20-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Playing a new HOI4 mod, there's a German Civil War when Hitler dies


[20-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Bormann for some reason always wins


[20-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The person who made this didn't know history I guess


[20-Aug-20 07:11 PM] Moon Flower#6088
What's HOI4?


[20-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hearts of Iron


[20-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Don't know that, but thanks.


[20-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a historical strategy game


[20-Aug-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
I mean


[20-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Lots of politics and history based characters and events


[20-Aug-20 07:23 PM] ononim#8141
it is 20 years after 40s


[20-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anytime you see a screenshot of a world map and there's some really weird borders and country names, it's probably from HoI4


[20-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I choose Gandhi in the nuclear age.


[20-Aug-20 07:24 PM] ononim#8141
Also it is not hard scripted for BOrman to win, Speer(tard) can win too and sometimes Goring


[20-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Like "North Californian Federation" occupying China


[20-Aug-20 07:25 PM] ononim#8141
anyway wish I had a computer working rn that is not a shitty laptop so I could engage in wholesome 100 chungus everyone liked that Sablin Russian unification run


[20-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
20 years after the 40s would be two decades of Hitler and Goring going "Goring is my successor"


[20-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Moon Flower#6088
My laptop is from... uh... I dunno... 2013?


[20-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Can't wait to see what they do with the Yockey/Hall presidencies


[20-Aug-20 07:34 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yockey was a weird pick, why not Rockwell?


[20-Aug-20 07:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kayleigh-mcenany-teachers-meat-packers-covid-strike-fox-news-2020-8

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White House press secretary compares teachers to 'meat packers' and...
After comparing teachers to "meat packers," McEnany said, "We've gotta protect our children, and that means getting them back to school."
https://i.insider.com/5f3e98c0cdf25a001e84e6fc?width=1200&format=jpeg


[20-Aug-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Daily dose


[20-Aug-20 07:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://i1.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/mandatory-mask-law-political-cartoon.png?fit=1000%2C500

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[20-Aug-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/512895-judge-throws-out-trump-effort-to-block-subpoena-for-tax-returns

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Judge throws out Trump effort to block subpoena for tax returns
A federal judge in New York on Thursday dismissed President Trump’s latest effort to stymie a New York grand jury subpoena for his tax returns and a trove of other financial documents.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald2_08172020getty.jpg


[20-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
who cares at this point? I mean really. What revelations do people expect from this data?


[20-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
that he broke half the laws in the book and embezzled as much as possible to try and become like the cool kids?


[20-Aug-20 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
you can say that blind and half the country will belive you and the other reject any kind of evidence, because no cost is too great.


[20-Aug-20 08:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/512920-us-sanctions-senior-syrian-officials-ahead-of-chemical-attack

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US sanctions senior Syrian officials ahead of chemical attack anniv...
The State Department announced Thursday that it is slapping new sanctions on senior Syrian officials ahead of the seventh anniversary of a brutal chemical attack that killed more than 1,400 Syrians.
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[20-Aug-20 08:10 PM] Phelan#7647
@Itsthinking best Hoi4 mod is unironically Equestria at War


[20-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Moon Flower#6088
What is a meat packer?


[20-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> because America's children must come first
to die


[20-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yep


[20-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Meat packer sounds like the big floppy dildos to put into your pants.


[20-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Meat packers... process meat for sale and consumption


[20-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Teachers... process children for sale and... oh no


[20-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
For church.


[20-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Ah, so it is literally what the words say for once.


[20-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Isn't it easier to have distance between meat packers than pupils in school?


[20-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're there for longer and passing eachother wet clumps of flesh in a cool environment


[20-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
pathogens love that shit


[20-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Seeing some protest kneeling comments in #memes-and-shitposts


[20-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Reminded me of this show called what would you do
Specifically this episode
https://youtu.be/2wNrmE9qLeE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wNrmE9qLeE
Coach doesn't want Black student athlete kneeling during game [PART...
In New York and Kentucky, a Black student athlete, inspired by Colin Kaepernick's kneeling, wants to kneel during the National Anthem. His coach tells him he's off the team if he does. Scenario broadcast in September 2018.

WATCH FULL EPISODES OF WWYD:
https://abc.go.com/shows...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2wNrmE9qLeE/maxresdefault.jpg


[20-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Part 2 was worse because it had this veteran who was super for the flag and was so close to killing the kid by telling him "Roll your eyes at me again!"


[20-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Anyway, I remember seeing that episode and didn't know about kneeling during the flag protest thing


[20-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
And I find it kinda sad that the instant second I heard about this, I knew Trump would be against this


[20-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It always floors me when I see veterans acting like people should **have** to observe patriotic rituals.


[20-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Opponent#3498
still don't really understand why a gesture of submission is considered a protest


[20-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't totally get the significance of kneeling myself. A defiant power fist feels like it'd be more fitting.


[20-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Vet: I fought for this country's freedom
Me: Sweet, now I can salute the flag with this one minor detail.
Vet: *Points gun* I fought for this country just for you to do this shit!?


[20-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I say as someone who's pro-protest


[20-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
I do like how the video states how Nike supports kneeling and people respond by burning their stuff


[20-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Yes, buy Nike stuff to give them money then burn the stuff so that you wasted your money on your side but still gave money to Nike
That will teach them

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[20-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
yeah, Nike is legitimately awful but this is a stupid reason to go after them.


[20-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Phelan#7647
if you really want to go after them, you've gotta try to blackmail them despite also trying to run for President


[20-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It's free publicity besides. This happened to Keurig too; They pulled ads on Fox News and conservatives got mad, and then a bunch of people who'd never cared about Keurig before were suddenly hearing about them in the news constantly.


[20-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@Teaspoon Oh, I would have thought everyone packs their own stuff.


[20-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Phelan#7647
God, remember when Avanatti was a thing, has he been debarred?


[20-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
Anyway, that's all I wanted to say about the kneeling thing


[20-Aug-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
afaik no, just sentenced


[20-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Ltmajordude#9623
You guys should give What Would You Do? a watch, it's an interesting show


[20-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Moon Flower#6088
This oxymoron is what I don't get.

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[20-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've seen some of it, yeah.


[20-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Kneel down like a submissive peasant instead of standing up for your rights.
I just don't get it.


[20-Aug-20 09:13 PM] jlun2#8758
🇺🇸 things


[20-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Phelan#7647
I've heard that, with what he did, he really fucked himself and it's pretty much a forgone conclusion he's gonna lose his license.


[20-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Moon Flower#6088
The verb literally is *to stand up* yet it is about kneeling ~~and bending over~~?


[20-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The intent matters more than the actual gesture.

It's intended *and perceived* as an act of protest, so it evidently works well as one.


[20-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not to me. I guess @jlun2 is right.
> 🇺🇸 things


[20-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
because standing for the national anthem is supposed to be a sign of respect


[20-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
if you don't stand for it, it's implied to be disrespectful


[20-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Then why just not *sit*?


[20-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
because sitting isn't implied to be disrespectful, it's neutral


[20-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You can't just sit in the field


[20-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks dumb


[20-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
and that too


[20-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I don't think sitting looks dumb.


[20-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
in the american context it works a gesture of defiance

football man no stand for america theme song


[20-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And kneeling during the anthem wasn't meant to be disrespectful, it was meant to show something's fucked up and the anthem isn't filling you with the pride it should


[20-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Moon Flower#6088
The fat audience is sitting too and try to get up for the anthem. (Also thanks for telling the anthem thing, gives finally a little context.)


[20-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Moon Flower#6088
So sitting means not standing up at all for it.


[20-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I can't disconnect the idea of kneeling being submissive, respectfulness, etc.


[20-Aug-20 09:18 PM] byte[]#2610
is that because you spend a lot of time on your knees?

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[20-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
More than standing.
In church you gotta kneel down too and it is the most annoying part.


[20-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] I'll be submissive for you. uwu

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[20-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Moon Flower#6088
No, I think more about people kneeling down in front of an emperor, king, pope, clergy, whatever.


[20-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Moon Flower#6088
If they stand it is bad unless told to not kneel anymore.


[20-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Moon Flower#6088
And then of course the sexual part of kneeling and bending over and getting fucked, to word it rudely.


[20-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If anything I think people flipping out over kneeling - a gesture that isn't even disrespectful - shows just how backwards (some of) our country's priorities are. People care more about outward expressions of patriotism than they actually care about the American people being treated with justice and fairness.


[20-Aug-20 09:21 PM] byte[]#2610
'murica


[20-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I dunno, isn't there a better alternative like collectively not playing?


[20-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're not protesting football, they're protesting the state of the country


[20-Aug-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
Al Franken had this segment in his book "Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell" where he has an entire chapter entitled "Why do Liberals Hate America?" (mocking the Fox News propaganda machine all the way back in '03)


[20-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> They're not protesting football, they're protesting the state of the country
If you divide it like this, then I don't understand why bringing it up in the game at all.


[20-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, why play the anthem in a football game then?


[20-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I wouldn't.


[20-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I never went watching sports like that.
/shrug


[20-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yet they do. It's been tradition for a long time and that's out of the players' hands. So that's their opportunity to protest.


[20-Aug-20 09:23 PM] byte[]#2610
he observes that on fox news, if you criticize the US, you'll be labeled as "hating america"


[20-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
if you criticize the US under a Republican president*


[20-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Criticizing the government helmed by Democrats is obviously based and pro-America


[20-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I dunno, US has good sides too, but at the moment I only come up with people I chat with from the US.


[20-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
(and it is, unironically. the dems suck, just less than the republicans do)


[20-Aug-20 09:25 PM] byte[]#2610
even if the point of your criticism is to show structural flaws in the system which could make it better if they were fixed, pointing out _anything_ wrong with the country makes you automatically "hate america"


[20-Aug-20 09:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pot holes? more like glorious freedom holes!


[20-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
But that's what I mean. Criticizing Republican leaders is viewed as an attack on American values, while criticizing Democratic leaders is seen as preserving the same.


[20-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I dunno, all these hate memes if you do something that is not in the presidents opinion and then a not too small minority going like "leave Amurricah u dirty commie" (attention, exaggeration) is weird.


[20-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Eh, I'd "just leave" in a heartbeat for the healthcare alone if I was able to.

But since I'm here and can't easily leave, I *guess* I'll do what I can to make things better here.


[20-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Moon Flower#6088
If the head of state here says, I dunno even what example to take, we don't have such big gun or mask controversies.


[20-Aug-20 09:28 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I mean, when I go voting there are like 12 different parties on the ballot.


[20-Aug-20 09:28 PM] Moon Flower#6088
And more than 2 make it into the government.


[20-Aug-20 09:29 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Diversity is more natural then, I guess.


[20-Aug-20 09:34 PM] Moon Flower#6088
I think it was something like 7 out of 10 parties got seats.


[20-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/03/07/the-coal-industry-has-lost-almost-one-thousand-jobs-since-trump-became-president/

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While the total U.S. workforce has expanded by over 6.4 million in the past three years, the coal industry has lost almost 1,000 jobs. Unfortunately for miners, market forces continue to rock the coal industry.
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[20-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Crow#5457
from march this year


[20-Aug-20 10:07 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[20-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I don't think I get this one


[20-Aug-20 10:12 PM] wren#0114

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[20-Aug-20 10:12 PM] wren#0114
am I hot or cold


[20-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
oh, habbo


[20-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Though if anything, it was the afro dudes who beat (or at least blockaded) the pool.


[20-Aug-20 10:14 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's a reference to Bidens story about a standoff with some guy named Cornpop 50 years ago.


[20-Aug-20 10:14 PM] wren#0114
I like my version better


[20-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
that's quite a name


[20-Aug-20 10:15 PM] wren#0114
>cornpop
>coinpop
>coinpo


[20-Aug-20 10:15 PM] wren#0114
😱


[20-Aug-20 10:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://youtu.be/oihV9yrZRHg

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Joe Biden "Corn Pop" Story FULL Segment
With the "Corn Pop" story making its rounds globally. I thought in fairness, people should see the full Joe Biden speech from the event, and not just a 2-minute excerpt.

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[20-Aug-20 10:15 PM] >That Guy#3386
Something about a segregated pool.


[20-Aug-20 10:16 PM] wren#0114
not 15 seconds in and he says "hey kids, come on up here"


[20-Aug-20 10:16 PM] wren#0114
lek


[20-Aug-20 10:16 PM] wren#0114
I don't think I'm ready for this story


[20-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"cornpop and three guys confronted me with straight razors"

god biden i know, i also hate being cornered by roaming barbers


[20-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Corn Pop died in 2018


[20-Aug-20 10:18 PM] >That Guy#3386
F


[20-Aug-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Again, the thing that's actually bad about the his story is that it's all true and has been corroborated by multiple people


[20-Aug-20 10:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He threatened to beat black kids up with a chain for not wearing swimcaps


[20-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly it feels too meandering and weirdly specific not to be true.


[20-Aug-20 10:19 PM] wren#0114
tldw?


[20-Aug-20 10:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
What a strange man.


[20-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden was a lifeguard and he mocked some black teens for not wearing swim caps, supposedly they came back with straight razors?


[20-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
why

why tell this story now though


[20-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Or a couple of years ago, but still


[20-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He told it in 2018 while at that pool


[20-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Itsthinking#8251
IIRC


[20-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[20-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Cops do need some amount of supercars, because regular people have them


[20-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You can't chase down a Lotus in a Ford


[20-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not like you need lamborgini tho


[20-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Cops have spike strips


[20-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Custom made japanese engines can easily get 400-600 HP


[20-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A fancy ass F150 isn't gonna do shit off road with its 3 inch clearance


[20-Aug-20 10:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Or Tesla


[20-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Moon Flower#6088
ford mark IV will do it


[20-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Those rare AF


[20-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not all Ford models are slow. :p


[20-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Not all Lamborghini models are fast either. :twiright:


[20-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup


[20-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Tractors are their thing after all, still do some nowadays. :p


[20-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
They more like show off cars


[20-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Moon Flower#6088
But Lamborghini tractors will be great off-road.


[20-Aug-20 10:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/512979-susan-b-anthony-museum-objects-to-trump-pardon

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Susan B. Anthony museum objects to Trump pardon
The Susan B. Anthony House on Tuesday objected to President Trump’s pardon of its namesake, saying it “validated the proceedings” that led to her conviction for attempting to vote in the first place.
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[20-Aug-20 11:11 PM] byte[]#2610
(downgraded by an algorithm)


[20-Aug-20 11:14 PM] wren#0114
ai learned to troll


[20-Aug-20 11:14 PM] wren#0114
2020 sure is a year


[20-Aug-20 11:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
What is this bullshit about grade downgrades I've been hearing recently?


[20-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
since they couldn't hold the official exams, UK decided to grade exams automatically based on people's perfomance during semestre


[20-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
the results were higher than expected, and so were downgraded to fit the original projections, based on... something


[20-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
the average perfomance of people taking this exam last year or something? I don't remember.


[20-Aug-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
no, each individual student's average performance from previous years


[20-Aug-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
so if you historically underperformed and then did well it would curve you down dramatically


[20-Aug-20 11:43 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a fucked up system


[20-Aug-20 11:43 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It makes sense on a strategic, industrial level, but is soul-crushing on individual level.


[20-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Leveler.


[20-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point of overachieving?


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[20-Aug-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
(posted by a trump fan)


[20-Aug-20 11:47 PM] byte[]#2610
I am absolutely a-ok with this plan


[20-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I did overachieve and what? School perfomance was not counted towards to whatever hiring points.


[20-Aug-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
Because it's what they were gonna do anyway, buy black market fish tank cleaner and bottles of quinine and pretend it's malaria


[20-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
literally no drawbacks.


[20-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Opponent#3498
people get to stand by what they believe in and face the music.


[20-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Opponent#3498
pure perfection.


[20-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, but so do their kids, who don't get a say.


[20-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly that's what worries me. An adult who wants to endanger themselves is one thing, but a lot of these people are parents.


[20-Aug-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
No more religious exemptions for vaccines


[20-Aug-20 11:50 PM] byte[]#2610
Crack down on medical licensing and kick out doctors who routinely refer patients away from vaccines


[20-Aug-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
Require proof of vaccination or valid medical exemption for all government programs


[20-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Agreed.

If it's really against your religion, that's on us; your gods will forgive you if the government makes you do it.

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[20-Aug-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
Also, kill homeschooling


[20-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Ehh, there are legitimate reasons to homeschool but I would advocate for better oversight


[20-Aug-20 11:52 PM] byte[]#2610
You can't force people to get vaccinated, but you can damn well incentivize them to


[20-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Like make sure the parents aren't teaching flat-earth creationism mumbo jumbo and passing it off as a high school education.


[20-Aug-20 11:53 PM] jlun2#8758
i dont see that happening in my lifetime


[20-Aug-20 11:53 PM] byte[]#2610
what reason would you give that homeschooling is an acceptable thing to keep


[20-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I know someone who was so socially maladjusted and so bullied and so miserable at school that her parents pulled her out and homeschooled her, and she described that as a lifesaving improvement on her mental health.


[20-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I can give a bunch of reasons for homeschooling


[20-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I do think that a lot of the time, homeschooling is advocated by conservative whackjobs who just don't want their kids learning about evolution or certain parts of history, and yeah, that is an issue.


[20-Aug-20 11:56 PM] wren#0114
I would revolt if homeschooling was taken away


[20-Aug-20 11:56 PM] wren#0114
legit


[20-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
- Limited school staff. Half of teachers were absent or taught nil.
- Social issues. (Above)
- Waste of funds on lunches (school shops are total ripoff) and school fees.


[20-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd just be for better oversight. Have some tests and benchmarks that the homeschooled student has to pass to make sure the parent or home teacher is actually teaching the curriculum and not some weird "alternative" learning.


[20-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thanks to #1 point I had to spend saturdays in the final year to catch up entire 5 year program.


[20-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thanks to point #2 I earned sociophobia and lone wolf perk.


[20-Aug-20 11:59 PM] wren#0114
depending on the state, there's the same standardized testing requirements, or in some states you have to get your plan of study approved every year


[20-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
- bonus point. Education system goalpost shifting.


[21-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm a public school teacher myself, so I'm definitely not of the opinion that homeschooling ought to be the first option or even a *common* option... but I think it should remain *an* option. There are always going to be students who just have a hard time in a traditional school environment to the detriment of their learning.


[21-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As I said, I'm not a fan of the most common reason for homeschooling, which is just parents trying to shield their kids from learning subjects they don't agree with.


[21-Aug-20 12:01 AM] wren#0114
I really liked it because I could move freely between difficulties in math for example, so I got a lot ahead on that subject


[21-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I ended up with 3 different text books because at school they taught new and useless stuff, older book was ok and very old book for nice material.


[21-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If I was parent, I would homeschool, looking at horrors in my school.


[21-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Violence, drugs and sex. At school. Practicals.


[21-Aug-20 12:03 AM] wren#0114
what do you teach, mech?


[21-Aug-20 12:04 AM] jlun2#8758
define "Practicals" pls? example?


[21-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm a special ed inclusion teacher. So I work with special ed students who aren't so severe that they need their own classes, but they still need extra tutoring and guidance throughout the day. So rather than have a classroom, I go to lots of different classes throughout the day and work with a number of students (and other teachers) there.


[21-Aug-20 12:05 AM] jlun2#8758
the job market is quite different now, so an art course can legit be practical for patreon


[21-Aug-20 12:05 AM] wren#0114
that sounds really cool, like being able to visibly make a difference


[21-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I really enjoy it.


[21-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@jlun2 
"Hands on studies" aka doing it at school.


[21-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So you guys hear about what happen to Bannon I know I'm like several hours late was doing something.


[21-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He got Bannon-banned


[21-Aug-20 12:06 AM] jlun2#8758
i dont search him so no


[21-Aug-20 12:06 AM] wren#0114
I heard arrest happened but waiting to hear more


[21-Aug-20 12:06 AM] wren#0114
goodnight time (for me, didn't mean for topic)


[21-Aug-20 12:07 AM] wren#0114
:sleep:


[21-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Sally Moon#4922
He got arrested and indicted I'm hearing on Fraud charges linked to a fundraiser about The Wall. I heard around 25 million was embezzled with Bannon getting a million for himself to spend on luxury goods.


[21-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
All the high-ranking people on We Build the Wall embezzled a ton of money, yeah.


[21-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Opponent#3498
```I'd just be for better oversight. Have some tests and benchmarks that the homeschooled student has to pass to make sure the parent or home teacher is actually teaching the curriculum and not some weird "alternative" learning.```
yep. Big fan. It's the same as my favourite solution for guns - make sure people know what they're doing and do it right.


[21-Aug-20 12:09 AM] jlun2#8758
for the people who homeschool to avoid subjects, how the hell do they get a job


[21-Aug-20 12:10 AM] jlun2#8758
"i believe in sky daddy hire me pls"


[21-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I mean, religiosity doesn't prohibit employment in any meaningful way


[21-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'd say more extreme beliefs like openly touting a flat earth or something


[21-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Opponent#3498
there probably _are_ standardised testings in some form.


[21-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Funny fact - none of subjects were practical for my career.


[21-Aug-20 12:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/i/events/1296441711879569408

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[21-Aug-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile Trump is now doing the "I never liked him, i don;t know this man" bit


[21-Aug-20 12:11 AM] jlun2#8758
more like, i have a degree & struggle to get a job. how does learning...probably not so relevant things like antivax make you more employable


[21-Aug-20 12:12 AM] byte[]#2610
the point of school is not necessarily to prepare you for a career (you may never have one), but it is definitely to expose you to the knowledge and values of the society you live in


[21-Aug-20 12:12 AM] jlun2#8758
> definitely to expose you to the knowledge and values of the society took live in
my school made me hate men because of bullies & societal expectations on whats male so :shrugpony:
(am male btw)


[21-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This is also why traditionalist parents distrust college so much. College invariably exposes kids to worldviews and ideas they may have been shielded from at home.


[21-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Values of society
GOOD ONE.


[21-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This talk reminds me of liberal arts.


[21-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Rules of street
>Do not snitch
>Have fun (sex, drugs and smoking)


[21-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Force does wonders


[21-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I went to an explicitly Christian private college (my grandfather worked there) and I *still* left it way more liberal than I entered it. Just being around different people from other walks of life and living on your own away from your family is going to challenge the worldviews instilled in childhood.

Granted, the school still taught evolution in its science classes and didn't shove God into mainline subjects. We did have to take an Old and New Testament class but that was the extent of the religious stuff.


[21-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
>Seize the day


[21-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
In general not a very good values for civilized society.


[21-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Being around the Derpbiooru politics board really changed my world view.

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[21-Aug-20 12:17 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, Derpi's an eye opener in many regards :nut:


[21-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Thanks to Derpi, I learned that USA is a shithole.


[21-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Opponent#3498
:nut:


[21-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
In high school I was staunchly conservative; Like, "Listen to Limbaugh with my grandfather in the car unironically" conservative. Became liberal in college and am pretty much a Norway-style social democrat now. 

lol, teenage me would hate me


[21-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I really hated Nebble and the ban really did get me but after cooling down for a few weeks I began to look at things a little differently and also began to doubt what I knew about the market and came to see Bernie's message in a new light.


[21-Aug-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
> Granted, the school still taught evolution in its science classes and didn't shove God into mainline subjects. We did have to take an Old and New Testament class but that was the extent of the religious stuff.
oh hey, i went to a religious school before too. 1st one was not even religiously outside a chapel lmao. was filled with bullies too
2nd one was what you described, & lot less bullies (they had students that cared about studies, unlike my last...4? schools


[21-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised what a *normal* college it was overall.


[21-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
We used to sing religious songs, but due to multicural population, we left national anthem only


[21-Aug-20 12:24 AM] jlun2#8758
i got expelled for complaining about bullies ("being desruptive") almost every single year in high school so i can understand why some ppl might want home school


[21-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, it definitely has its place.


[21-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
My grandparents are bible thumpers and also hypocrites so I always questioned Christian values wondering why a place like hell would exist when the bible preaches things like forgiveness and loving one another. I began to view religion as more of a tool of the powerful to get the lower classes to go to war for their benefits (Crusades, Capitalism etc) it was really heart breaking to see people's good will in faith being taken advantage of often by a smooth talking swindler. So I hold the good Christian values in high regard but throw the rest in the trash. Homosexuals shouldn't burn because God loves all his children so its a contradiction.


[21-Aug-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm a lifelong atheist


[21-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm one too, I hate when the do you believe in god question comes up though


[21-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Moon Flower#6088
the problem arises when you're gnostic (a)theist


[21-Aug-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
I just say no


[21-Aug-20 12:33 AM] byte[]#2610
If someone tries to force the issue or entrap/purity test me I generally decline to discuss further


[21-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Moon Flower#6088
@byte[] Just tell them "I'm gay." and walk away, let them have a meltdown.


[21-Aug-20 12:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm willing to discuss with people about why I believe/don't believe what I do but I'm not going to accept another tiring discussion about how actually your god is real and I'm going to hell


[21-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
My mom is religious and any talk of religion often ends with a tense feeling in the air. So we just don't talk about it.


[21-Aug-20 12:37 AM] jlun2#8758
> also hypocrites
this drives me nuts & i always go :isee:


[21-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Moon Flower#6088
And if they can't let go, just add "You actually look really cute when angry, honey."


[21-Aug-20 12:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Nah it was "If your great grand father were here he beat that Monkey nonsense out of you with that poker (An iron rod use to roll over fire wood in the heater)


[21-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
good thing that he aint then.


[21-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Opponent#3498
:blep:


[21-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Moon Flower#6088
A-ha! So you admit humans used to be monkeys!


[21-Aug-20 12:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[21-Aug-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's kind of hard to say whether i was even religious growing up or not as most of it was just my neighbors shoving it in my face and making me terrified of going to hell coupled with people shunning me for my name because it was eerily close to a biblical "bad guy"

I'm pretty much athiest now, but that shit haunts a kid


[21-Aug-20 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I’m fortunate in that none of my experiences with other close people’s religion resulted in abuse


[21-Aug-20 01:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
My grandma is a Catholic but she doesn’t care about the faith of the rest of her family, she appreciates people for what they are instead, which is good


[21-Aug-20 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
So, without other people continuously egging on me to partake in religious activities... i gradually lost my faith in a higher deity and all


[21-Aug-20 01:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people never really egged me on, they just sort of told me my sins would send me to hell while giving me chick trax and pamphlets


[21-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
If there’s a god then why hasn’t the creator of the cuties movie suffered a mysterious lightning strike


[21-Aug-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently what netflix did was misleading to the movie itself but there;s still so manyt hings wrogn with it that it;s fucked up anyway


[21-Aug-20 01:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently the message of the movie is that the culture we;re in makes children grow up too fast and we should stop sexualizing children


[21-Aug-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile netflix just went full force into doing that anyway

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[21-Aug-20 01:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I watched Joel's critique of The Red Pill movie. That movie was really...something


[21-Aug-20 01:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this is the first i;m hearing of that movie


[21-Aug-20 01:08 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The people who try to convert me are annoying.


[21-Aug-20 01:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my GF's aunt tried to convert me to catholism but seems fine with me not doing so


[21-Aug-20 01:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oddly enough, in a cracker barrel


[21-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I find their exclamation "Oh my word" hilarious. What word? *trollface*


[21-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Cant they use some other word but besides "word"? I like raritys one "on my stars"

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[21-Aug-20 01:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
word


[21-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
*Gasp! You said the W-word!*


[21-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am not hating on other beliefs, but rather they should keep beliefs to themselves.


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[21-Aug-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"oh my gamer girl bath water"


[21-Aug-20 01:18 AM] illumnious#7938
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[21-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Phelan#7647
Increase police funding tbh


[21-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Forget oh my word and on my stars


[21-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Give me..... By Talos.


[21-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pinned a message.


[21-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Opponent#3498
```If there’s a god then why hasn’t the creator of the cuties movie suffered a mysterious lightning strike```
because He approves, of course.


[21-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Nebbie#8545
Old Testament god liked 'em young.

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[21-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
To once again point it out, in the book of Numbers, there's this big war story.


[21-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Nebbie#8545
Basically, some Midianite women allegedly seduced some Israelite men.


[21-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Nebbie#8545
So war gets declared, some multiple of 1,000 soldiers get put together, soon enuff all the Midian men are dead, women and children captured.


[21-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I see where this is going.


[21-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moses is then like "Wtf guys, you kept the women and boys alive? Kill literally everyone who isn't a girl with her hymen. You can keep *for yourselves* any that've got one. Shame if you feel one up and she doesn't, gotta behead her, you know, it's what God said."


[21-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most modern religious scholars excuse it as that the virgin girls (who would've like all been under 11 given the times) were just like, made house slaves, cause teeeechnically ya gotta marry under Israelite rules to hav sex.


[21-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
But like, everybody with common sense knows that slaves in the ancient world who could be killed at any time were not going to be spared when the man of the house is horny.


[21-Aug-20 01:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also, still one of the worst forms of ethnic cleansing there is even if you can keep the rape out of it etc.


[21-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Nebbie#8545
And on top of that, the allegation is highly questionable to begin with, likely a few Israelite guys got drunk while some Midianite women were with them and Moses had to make sure his own men weren't known to be a bunch of rapist pervs not following his rules.


[21-Aug-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Genociding the Canaanites was also an Old Testament bruh moment


[21-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The Old Testament does not, for the record, require that women marry their rapists, that part's about consensual stuff, but it *really* does not treat women well.


[21-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
This is all assuming people read the Old Testament


[21-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They don't.


[21-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
They only cite it when they want to say don't be gay.


[21-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Nebbie#8545
But the original point was that if you take Biblical God as real, there is no way he would be mad about Cuties.


[21-Aug-20 02:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's a story about a heathen woman's daughter casting aside her native land's traditions in favor of western stuff.


[21-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
At worst, the point would be that it's all about lust and not proper marriage, but that would only truly apply to actual sexual activities, not twerking.


[21-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The translation and American poster are only designed for sex appeal.

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[21-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Which is sick.


[21-Aug-20 02:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
Yep.


[21-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I would have chosen an entirely new name or kept it in French.


[21-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
And in Catholicism, it's very frowned upon, but that ties on all sorts of stuff beyond the OT.


[21-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I think the problem is "cutie" is rather sexualized now.


[21-Aug-20 02:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Too much stuff has walked the PG/PG-13 line, calling someone "cute" means a lot more than it would've 20 years ago.


[21-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
It could've been translated as "Lovelies", tho that might carry most of the same problems.


[21-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
When I think of cutie


[21-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I think of you c:

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[21-Aug-20 02:20 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The fella Odyssey Eurobeat has brought up his story of harassment by an individual. https://youtu.be/1bnCH6_dBWY

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnCH6_dBWY
Regarding Recent Harassment
My stalker— the person against whom I have a restraining order (Effective as of June 2020 ), and continues  to knowingly and willingly harass me through emails (some containing videos of him), letters, and gifts (the latter two sent to my personal address)— is the user formerl...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1bnCH6_dBWY/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Aug-20 02:20 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Don't go after the harasser. That's like fighting fire with fire. Instead, if you come across him, just tell him to change for the better.


[21-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Opponent#3498
who is this guy though?


[21-Aug-20 02:29 AM] byte[]#2610
You don't know him?


[21-Aug-20 02:33 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Odyssey Eurobeat. Otherwise known as Eurobeat Brony.


[21-Aug-20 02:33 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Creator of Discord song.


[21-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Someone can only change when they have an incentive to change.


[21-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Nebbie#8545
Moreso when they want, but many don't want unless there's incentive.


[21-Aug-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/73-former-republican-national-security-officials-endorse-joe-biden-say-trump-dangerously-unfit-1526562

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https://www.newsweek.com/73-former-republican-national-security-officials-endorse-joe-biden-say-trump-dangerously-unfit-1526562
73 former Republican national security officials endorse Joe Biden,...
"In contrast, we believe Joe Biden has the character, experience, and temperament to lead this nation," the group said in a statement.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1626097/donald-trump-minnesota-august-2020.jpg


[21-Aug-20 04:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
This doesn't make me like Joe Biden any more.


[21-Aug-20 04:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
He isn't going for you, he's going for Joe Republican, who thinks it's okay to kill brown people, but only as long as you don't say it out loud while actually stomping on Democracy and not just tripping it every time it looks a little too brown.


[21-Aug-20 04:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
What?


[21-Aug-20 04:05 AM] byte[]#2610
I can't read that sentence and _not_ laugh


[21-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Joe Biden needs all the votes he can get, I'm tired of Trump's Presidential version of the Apprentice


[21-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
@byte[] not big on brony personalities outside of authors or artists.


[21-Aug-20 04:18 AM] byte[]#2610
not a personality


[21-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Treascair#7785
one of the original big pony musicians when the fandom was just getting started


[21-Aug-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
famous musician, wrote some significantly popular "brony music" and also was a musician for the japanese anime "initial d"


[21-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Treascair#7785
... they're still bangers, if you ask me.  Damn, do they hold up~


[21-Aug-20 04:19 AM] Opponent#3498
right. What did he do to get 'recent harassment'?


[21-Aug-20 04:19 AM] byte[]#2610
he has an obsessive fan


[21-Aug-20 04:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the speakers at the virtual DNC are talking more like joe just died and they're holding a rememberance instead of an endorsement

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[21-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That does make me laugh


[21-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Treascair#7785
> right. What did he do to get 'recent harassment'?
@Opponent 

Dude he used to know doesn't want to take "no, and don't contact me again, I'm not interested in you" for an answer


[21-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
PragerU more like... Prager Not U because they’re not a university


[21-Aug-20 04:26 AM] byte[]#2610
more like dennis prager educates you about urine and feces


[21-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I use to watch a lot of PragerU

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[21-Aug-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
why


[21-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Because it’s funny to watch


[21-Aug-20 04:32 AM] byte[]#2610
maybe if you hate yourself


[21-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It’s like watching a liar lie and know they’re lying


[21-Aug-20 04:33 AM] PwnyPony#6185
https://youtu.be/rG_Ue3t17l0

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The Citizen Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG_Ue3t17l0
[YTP] Good Old P.U.
A nice fireside chat with Dennis and his Prager pals.



Also, no, I'm not dead. OR AM I?????
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rG_Ue3t17l0/maxresdefault.jpg


[21-Aug-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610
citizen brain is good but I can't imagine the kind of shit he has to go through to get source material


[21-Aug-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
https://theweek.com/speedreads/932619/stephen-miller-reportedly-wanted-separate-every-migrant-family-that-crossed-border

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Stephen Miller reportedly wanted to separate every migrant family t...
Many of the Trump administration's most powerful officials voted in favor of separating migrant children from their parents in 2018, NBC News reports.
Family separation at the border hit its peak in the summer of 2018 after then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions launched the U.S....
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[21-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@byte[] Got a recommendation, it looked presentable and their pro  free market approach really spoke to my inner business sense. I brought into the whole Trickle down stuff because it seem to make sense on paper but that would be banking on the generosity of billionaires to do the right thing and share their wealth. Then it spiral from there. Looking back on that stuff a year ago I feel pretty dumb for believing that stuff


[21-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
But it did give me an insight in how the right wing thinks a little.


[21-Aug-20 04:57 AM] byte[]#2610
if you look at all the people who initially championed the virtues of free market they pretty much said that redistribution of wealth is a requirement to keep it working and that wealthy actors will work to interfere with the state to prevent this redistribution


[21-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
How I was taught was that businesses make a profit, the more profitable the business the better, a more profitable business leads to more stores thus more employment opportunities. I didn't really think about wealth distribution. Now that I been following left leaning commentators I began to understand that my approach was naïve and that I was only viewing the world through the eyes of a business man. Workers need protections and customers should be able to trust that the product they are using is at a high standard.


[21-Aug-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434545866674667520/746208736900808765/cybperpunk_politics.mp4

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[21-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Opponent#3498
that's kinda weaksause.


[21-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Opponent#3498
also he doesn't just sniff the women or children. He doesn't discriminate, any life energy is good enough to sustain him.


[21-Aug-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
he sustains himself on sucking the blackness right out of black republicans


[21-Aug-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
this is how herman cain died


[21-Aug-20 05:32 AM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Aug-20 05:33 AM] byte[]#2610
"If you can't complete a sentence, you shouldn't be president" -- disqualifying for the current office holder


[21-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
70 should be the cutoff age for any elected office beyond the House tbh


[21-Aug-20 05:34 AM] byte[]#2610
honestly most of these feel like pure projection


[21-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one gives a shit about sex scandals or creepiness


[21-Aug-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
"antifa for biden" <-> "KKK members for trump"
"biggest idiot democrats ever nominated" <-> :no_u: 
"creepy joe biden" <-> miss universe pageants? the access hollywood tapes? epstein's sex island? multiple lawsuits by plaintiffs alleging statutory rape?
"rioters and looters for biden" <-> violent white supremacists holding tiki torches, crashing cars into counterprotestors, very fine people on both sides


[21-Aug-20 05:37 AM] byte[]#2610
📽️


[21-Aug-20 05:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

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Unite the Right rally
The Unite the Right rally was a white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia, from August 11 to 12, 2017. Protesters were members of the far-right and included self-identified members of the alt-right, neo-Confederates, neo-fascists, white ...
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[21-Aug-20 05:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-twitter-white-house-asks-supreme-court-block-users-2020-8

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The White House is asking the Supreme Court to let President Trump ...
A 2019 ruling prohibited Trump from blocking Twitter users who criticized him or his policies, a court order the White House now wants reversed.
https://i.insider.com/5f3ea55ecdf25a001e84e766?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Aug-20 05:45 AM] byte[]#2610
and they're going to say "haha no"


[21-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
idk why he even bothers to ask


[21-Aug-20 05:46 AM] byte[]#2610
it's not like he's going to really care if he ignores another court order


[21-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
jesus. Imagine having to prohibit someone from blocking people on twitter via a _court order_.


[21-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Biden gets called Sleepy Joe Biden walks it off. 
Trump gets called Cheesepuff Mc Stubby fingers and he blows his top. I guess we know who has the better temperament.


[21-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sleepy" is such a lame insult


[21-Aug-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats seem to be fairly self aware that biden is a damaged compromise candidate


[21-Aug-20 05:51 AM] byte[]#2610
... republicans still have cartoonists who draw trump like he's a gigachad in his 20s crushing the opposition underfoot


[21-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, he also was a senator for three decades and VP for eight years


[21-Aug-20 05:52 AM] byte[]#2610
and more people than that who actually believe that the Q bullshit, which essentially deifies trump


[21-Aug-20 05:53 AM] byte[]#2610
(republicans failed to uniformly denounce that too, what a shock)


[21-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Opponent#3498
their champion endorsed it, how can they defy him?


[21-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Most cartoons of Trump I seen were the opposite of this "Gigachad" that you speak of.


[21-Aug-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
even if the republicans flat out denied all involvement and denounced it as a conspiracy the believers would just mentally bend to saying "they're denying it to keep [george soros] from finding out it's real"


[21-Aug-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no winning against someone who has been conned by Q


[21-Aug-20 05:56 AM] byte[]#2610
@Sally Moon I speak specifically of conservative columnists


[21-Aug-20 05:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Oh I don't really follow conservative columnist unless they are the ones who woke up to the smell of Trump's BS.


[21-Aug-20 05:59 AM] byte[]#2610
I don't "follow" any, I just happen to unfortunately stumble upon them from time to time


[21-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Moose what do you know about Qnon?


[21-Aug-20 06:01 AM] byte[]#2610
I invite you to read a summary instead of myself explaining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

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QAnon
QAnon () is a far-right conspiracy theory alleging a secret plot by a supposed "deep state" against President Donald Trump and his supporters. No part of the conspiracy has been shown to be based in fact. The theory began with an October 2017 post on the anonymous imageboard 4...
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[21-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I enjoy cringy political cartoons of all stripes so I see the gigachad stuff, it's all Ben Garrison.


[21-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Other than Ben Garrison you've got probably 15-20 regular Redpanels clones, and 5-10 cloning that "I am very intelligent" guy on the left


[21-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Of course, my favorite is a rare treat. I plan on buying his book if it ever comes out. I would donate to his Patreon if he made more than one comic every four months.


[21-Aug-20 06:17 AM] byte[]#2610
"I am very intelligent guy" Matt Bors?


[21-Aug-20 06:18 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501780687230074890/634143997048389653/mister-gotcha-4-9faefa.png

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[21-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[21-Aug-20 06:24 AM] byte[]#2610
That one is even a four panel comic

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[21-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That Matt guy is he like Ben Shapiro?


[21-Aug-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thenib.com/author/matt-bors/

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Matt Bors
Matt Bors is a cartoonist and editor based in Portland, OR. His work has appeared in The Nation, The Guardian, Fusion, The Intercept, Foreign Policy, and was collected in the book Life Begins at Incorporation. He was a 2012 Pulitzer Prize Finalist for his political cartoons an...
https://thenib.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Borsbio.png-030b574e-1858-42d5-9bd4-1bfa79a73d62.jpg


[21-Aug-20 09:34 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Everytime I look at DitzyFlama's last tweet, I keep getting chills down my spine. It's like writing a suicide note


[21-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Matt Bors is the first person I think of when I think of annoying web comics. It's a pretty big accomplishment, Tim B^Uckly held that position for such a long time.


[21-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Phelan#7647
Also @LeafyWasNotHere I don't know the guy but I did see this

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[21-Aug-20 10:22 AM] Opponent#3498
another one of pone or ex-pone people?


[21-Aug-20 10:28 AM] Phelan#7647
Nah, he was in the YTP community


[21-Aug-20 10:30 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
> Also @LeafyWasNotHere I don't know the guy but I did see this
@Phelan Yes I am aware. But I'm afraid he might attempt suicide again. He needs help.


[21-Aug-20 10:33 AM] Phelan#7647
Well yea, the people that caused him to attempt probably will attack him again down the line. He made a bad joke when he was 14 and people are still going after him, those types don't believe in forgiveness.


[21-Aug-20 11:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The problem is Twitter at its current state is toxic as shit. It's gotten so bad that it successfully made several people commmit suicide.


[21-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Twitter needs to be deleted


[21-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1296572251777560577?s=19

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Dataracer (@Dataracer117)
https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1296572251777560577?s=19
SJW's are freaking out over Marvel's Bounty Hunters #4 because Boba Fett killed a woman.

They're now traumatized saying Star Wars "hates women."
Retweets
775
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[21-Aug-20 11:20 AM] wren#0114
woof


[21-Aug-20 11:21 AM] wren#0114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6G9gab_f4

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VICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_6G9gab_f4
Raised for a Future that No Longer Exists
Harlan County, once a thriving hub of industry, is now a shell of its former self. The coal mines that once were the lifeblood of the local economy have shuttered, depriving the community’s dwindling number of young people of any real job prospects

On this episode of 'FORGOTT...
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[21-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/19/apple-becomes-wall-streets-first-2tn-company

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Apple becomes Wall Street's first $2tn company
Tech giant behind iPhone hits crucial share valuation of $467.77 but closes at $1.979tn just after breaking barrier
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[21-Aug-20 01:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/olimould/status/1295636051017465856

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Oli Mould (@olimould)
https://twitter.com/olimould/status/1295636051017465856
Apparently, the new Microsoft flight sim has used AI to map the entire world. But it's not done it all that great, and turned Buckingham Palace into a generic 90s office block. 

https://t.co/hgJnGmauPI
Retweets
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[21-Aug-20 01:59 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/19/apple-becomes-wall-streets-first-2tn-company
@Crow Buy some apples!

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Apple becomes Wall Street's first $2tn company
Tech giant behind iPhone hits crucial share valuation of $467.77 but closes at $1.979tn just after breaking barrier
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[21-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn those tweets really do be having fuck all exposure, most with no likes and retweets, 2000 isn't big on twitter either, 'sjws' aint doing shit, manufactured outrage sure is fun huh


[21-Aug-20 02:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Teaspoon what evidence does he provide for the claim that SJWs are offended at that panel?


[21-Aug-20 02:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This just reeks of residual gamergate


[21-Aug-20 02:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
hmm yes, 5 and 1 like, very relevant tweets I see


[21-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
the biggest one is 395 retweets there, with most being under 30


[21-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
sjws aint doing shit, there's millions of 'sjws' around, call me back when there's tweets with at least 5k engagement with this lmao


[21-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
like there's jenny and that's it


[21-Aug-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, there are tweets, but... what does this change?


[21-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, shit like this is always cherrypicked manufactured outrage so youtube gamer angry right wing griftlord quartering clone can make $$ on videos


[21-Aug-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*What impact does this have on society?*


[21-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's literally there for the gamergate leftovers to scoop up for grift $$ material


[21-Aug-20 02:16 PM] wren#0114
twitter runs on outrage


[21-Aug-20 02:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's not real, it has zero impact.
the old gamergater crew who are still posting shit like thequartering make money on outrage, usually fake or barely relevant to reality outrage


[21-Aug-20 02:17 PM] wren#0114
including manufactured


[21-Aug-20 02:17 PM] wren#0114
lel


[21-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
like these people make bank on tiny nothings, like, if I get poor all I gotta do is be a pick me pls right wing grifter especially since I'm trans so I can play the blaire white game, doesn't matter if I'm lying all the time or not


[21-Aug-20 02:18 PM] wren#0114
do it tbh


[21-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
the quartering literally makes money from finding tweets with 5 likes and 2 retweets (said tweets are usually 2 years old anyway) and insisting there's an epidemic of sjws out to get you


[21-Aug-20 02:19 PM] wren#0114
trolling for cash? sign me up


[21-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
literally 'sjws 'only seem to whiny and everywhere and 'ruining' society due to right wing outrage grifters echoing them until they look like they're bigger than they are


[21-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
corporations are always going to be woke for sales, and people burning their products only gives them more publicity so it's a win win for them


[21-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
nikes burning was hilarious


[21-Aug-20 02:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/287300310815342593/746197005185056891/117870449_1196210890729698_1862266609231393502_n.png

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[21-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Jesus dude, I just thought the boba fett thing was funny


[21-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And people _are_ mad, and it's stupid that they're mad


[21-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Feels like nothing can be talked about anymore without it getting blown out of proportion one way and the other at the same time


[21-Aug-20 02:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh


[21-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Opponent#3498
https://manticore.com/ what do you people know about this shit?

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VERITAS Radio and SANITAS Radio | Alternative Media | health declassified | Veritas Media Network is one of the best internet ufo paranormal alternative radio talk shows. Our shows cover latest UFO news, recent UFO sightings, conspiracies/parapolitics, Art Bell, new science, h...


[21-Aug-20 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean... does it matter much if UFOs exist and visit us regularly?


[21-Aug-20 02:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like advanced alien societies would want anything to learn from our truncated, inefficient civilization


[21-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Of fucking course Jenny gives her shitty take.


[21-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
lil' old me isn't gonna be able to do jack shit about there being aliens visiting us or not


[21-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And the whole thing is too _alien_ for me to even form a proper position about it

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[21-Aug-20 02:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They sure aren't gonna want to help us either, perhaps


[21-Aug-20 02:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
Veritas is grifty and untrustworthy as shit and has a long history of doing super dodgy shit


[21-Aug-20 02:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
If you have like uhhh, 4 hours to kill there's a long series on its history


[21-Aug-20 02:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, they talk about UFOs, so it's kind of expected lol


[21-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Until we're at V levels of alien presence there's not much to do about it


[21-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Earth has nothing to provide an interstellar species that couldn't be found elsewhere


[21-Aug-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
https://youtu.be/8buQLy1dWD8

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James O'Keefe & Project Veritas: 10 Years of Truth / Part 1
A video about the origins of undercover journalist extraordinaire James O'Keefe: his political awakening, founding principles, and how he got started running camera operations.

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[21-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Entertainment


[21-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I'm sure there's some sapient species that has gotten close to making Shakespeare somewhere


[21-Aug-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
3 parts so far, around 4 hours ish documentation on the organization and the main duder


[21-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I was thinking more "bloodsport" type entertainment


[21-Aug-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
Oh is this something different to them?


[21-Aug-20 02:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Monkey juggling at the circus" type entertainment


[21-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"What happens if we kill these 5 key humans we predicted would become great leaders? LET'S FIND OUT, NEXT DECADE ON **GLOBORF TV**"


[21-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Opponent#3498
right.Tldr would be, dodgy shit, UFOs, long history of doing both. Okay.


[21-Aug-20 02:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
Damn this really do be dodgy 2005 Web conspiracy theory site


[21-Aug-20 03:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
I think this is different to project veritas, known epic gotcha maker


[21-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's not that, I was confused too.


[21-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Project Veritas are the "watch, we caught this intern for the Sander's campaign that just does the coffee runs say he's a communist on hidden camera!" people, right?


[21-Aug-20 03:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also re: the Boba Fett stuff


[21-Aug-20 03:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It is in fact super lame when women and minorities are only used as feelsbait to make the antagonist bad


[21-Aug-20 03:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Look how evil he is!" etc


[21-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
But this is just being against killing any woman in a story by anyone ever for any reason


[21-Aug-20 03:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah, how project veritas works is they infiltrate liberal and leftist groups and just record a shittone of hours of footage every day


[21-Aug-20 03:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
And naturally people aren't going to just behave perfectly publically acceptable 24/7 so he can cherry pick from hundreds of hours of footage


[21-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say people should do that with right wing groups


[21-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But, like, most of them wear their shit on their sleaves


[21-Aug-20 03:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And all the way up the arm and neck to their gurgling mouthes


[21-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How dare a political group have people who have political opinions


[21-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Even extreme ones


[21-Aug-20 04:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-peter-marks-resign-if-agency-approves-unproven-coronavirus-vaccine-2020-8

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A top FDA official threatened to resign if the agency green-lights ...
Peter Marks, the director of the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, is one of the top officials overseeing vaccine research.
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[21-Aug-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.newsweek.com/syria-trump-stealing-oil-us-confirms-deal-1526589

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Syria says Trump "stealing" its oil, after U.S. company makes deal ...
"The U.S. occupation forces, in full view of the United Nations and the international community, took a new step to plunder Syria's natural resources, including Syrian oil and gas," Syria's mission to the U.N. said in remarks sent to Newsweek.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1626132/syria-oil-us-military.jpg


[21-Aug-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
And he said he was gonna do just that a year ago, so is anyone really surprised?


[21-Aug-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Aug-20 05:12 PM] byte[]#2610
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[21-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Fleety von Rainy'#9626
you don't get it, Trump's just stating they love the Law & Order TV series


[21-Aug-20 06:20 PM] byte[]#2610
https://news.sky.com/story/man-dies-in-arizona-after-being-restrained-by-police-on-hot-tarmac-for-six-minutes-12053541

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Man dies in Arizona after being restrained by police on hot tarmac ...
"He was fighting for his life, and he lost," says Ramon Timothy Lopez's brother.
https://e3.365dm.com/20/08/768x432/skynews-phoenix-police_5073538.jpg?20200821120742


[21-Aug-20 06:22 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Round 2?


[21-Aug-20 07:00 PM] Moon Flower#6088
100-degree heat, turning cooking


[21-Aug-20 07:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He's white so...


[21-Aug-20 07:25 PM] byte[]#2610
mexican


[21-Aug-20 07:26 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Arizona police is...not kind to Mexicans to put it lightly


[21-Aug-20 07:27 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
No doubt thanks to Joe Arpio’s work, to put it lightly


[21-Aug-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
you know the guy who put inmates in a chain gang, was challenged in federal court over it, the judge declared the punishment cruel and unusual, and then arpaio said 🖕 and trump pardoned


[21-Aug-20 07:29 PM] byte[]#2610
but he's not a white supremacist or anything, no, not at all :twiright:


[21-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1296836821901606913

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Boris Johnson setting up a tent and having a campfire without permission and then getting someone else to clear away the tent when he was done is so on the nose I have to sit down
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[21-Aug-20 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
for real though, 'We the people' always weirded me out


[21-Aug-20 08:09 PM] Opponent#3498
or, rather, it hinted on a very different understanding of 'US national idea' than 'every man for himself'


[21-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Moon Flower#6088
"people" in that context usually has a discriminatory definition anyways


[21-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"We the people" was nearly instantly met with "define people" in court cases


[21-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/21/politics/trump-motion-tax-records/index.html

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Trump files emergency request to prevent subpoena of his tax record...
Lawyers for President Donald Trump filed an emergency request Friday for a federal appeals court to put a subpoena for his financial documents and tax returns on hold until the higher court can weigh in on the matter.
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[21-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:wheeze:


[21-Aug-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's his excuse behind not releasing the returns?


[21-Aug-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"They're under audit"


[21-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He used to say he was being auditted


[21-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's so successful


[21-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So the IRS is constantly auditing him because they can't believe how successful he is


[21-Aug-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He could have just released them to the public years ago and waited until it became a blip under his long list of scandals, but nope, must keep keeping it until it explodes on his face


[21-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just gotta keep playing this game a teeny bit longer...


[21-Aug-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/internal-email-usps-workers-not-to-reinstall-disconnected-sorting-machines-2020-8

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Leaked USPS email tells postal workers not to reconnect or reinstal...
Just hours earlier, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy said that all service changes will be paused until after Election Day.
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[21-Aug-20 08:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hannity-law-enforcement-polls-election-day-voter-fraud-2020-8

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Trump says he'll send law enforcement and lawyers to polls on Elect...
Earlier this week, Trump told supporters in Oshkosh, Wisconsin that "the only way we're going to lose this election is if this election is rigged."
https://i.insider.com/5f3fdbdb42f43f001ddfe471?width=1200&format=jpeg


[21-Aug-20 09:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "Are you going to have poll watchers? Are you going to have an ability to monitor, to avoid fraud, and cross-check whether or not these are registered voters?" Hannity said.
> 
> "We're going to have everything," Trump promised in response.
> 
> "We're going to have sheriffs, and we're going to have law enforcement. And we're going to have hopefully U.S. attorneys, and we're going to have everybody and attorney generals," he added. "But it's very hard."


[21-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Well, prepare for the good ol' times of US elections mirroring Belarus and Russia.


[21-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Opponent#3498
```He could have just released them to the public years ago and waited until it became a blip under his long list of scandals, but nope, must keep keeping it until it explodes on his face```
for realsies though. People would literally have forgotten all about it by now.


[21-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Opponent#3498
also, right now I'm _really_ grateful I don't live in US. This shit gonna explode and I'm just far enough to avoid immediate fallout.


[21-Aug-20 09:03 PM] byte[]#2610
you're not gonna escape it lol


[21-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I said _immediate_ fallout.


[21-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Opponent#3498
once NATO support gives out, however minor it might be, we'll be forced to deal with Russia on their terms. But that comes later.


[21-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/08/19/trump-disapproval-rating-at-new-high-in-new-poll-as-americans-embarrassed-by-coronavirus-response/#575710952d99

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Trump Disapproval Rating At New High In New Poll As Americans Are E...
In June, 40% of Americans said they knew someone diagnosed with the coronavirus, but that number had increased significantly, to 67%, by August.
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[21-Aug-20 09:50 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[21-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Nebbie#8545
Trust 538's weighted aggregation, not the raw polls.


[21-Aug-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-DNC-Liveblog-4-4x3-NO-LIVE.png?w=575

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[21-Aug-20 10:25 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nate Silver stop shoving your fursona into everything

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[21-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Nebbie#8545
Reminds me of Conker.


[21-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545

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[21-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
OH


[21-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Nebbie#8545
oh, @Itsthinking, worst part


[21-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Nebbie#8545
Do you know why it REALLY REALLY reminds me of Conker?


[21-Aug-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[21-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I wasted two hours and sixteen minutes on that Senate hearing


[21-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Nebbie#8545
Take a guess, @Itsthinking, about what's really wrong with the design.


[21-Aug-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the post master general hearing?


[21-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah


[21-Aug-20 10:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm just gonna wait for the bridge notes


[21-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
It's kind of a general thing, but it just furthers that Conker image for me.


[21-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Nebbie#8545
In the later 2 posts, he is wearing a hat that's a big cheese wedge.


[21-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
Cheese wedges show up more than once in Conker, especially at one of the more memorable gross parts of the game.


[21-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Nebbie#8545
And they are EXACTLY that proportion to Conker in size.


[21-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A lot of stuff went on in that hearing but what really annoyed me was how some of the Senate Republicans were blatantly defending voter suppression.


[21-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) the operators are payed like min wage ,give them a break :twismug:


[21-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Super_Lucky%27s_Tale.jpg

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[21-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251
More like this than Conker


[21-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Nebbie#8545
@Itsthinking different coloration.


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Moon Flower#6088
Feed the rat cheese wedges until it explodes.


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Conker has a lot more yellow, and no brown.


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sega called they said nice OC


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Nebbie#8545
Nate's fox is only much different in mouth area coloration.


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] jlun2#8758
reminds me of that user on a certain site that started to shove their fursona all over speedrun videos lol


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's wearing a cheese hat because the DNC was in Wisconsin


[21-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Opponent#3498
@Sally Moon the president blatantly supports voter suppression. I mean he just about called any other outcome but an outright victory a fraud _in advance_.


[21-Aug-20 10:54 PM] Nebbie#8545
And yes, Moon Flower. (Warning: gets a bit gorey later in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzaRxHP_XRM

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[21-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I know, it shows Trump is admitting he can't beat "Sleepy Joe" Biden.


[21-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
Is Trump Marvin? :twismug:


[21-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Moon Flower#6088
>Live and Reloaded
:trixdisgust:


[21-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Nebbie#8545
A disgusting creature you overfeed until it explodes.


[21-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Spikeabuse Nebble


[21-Aug-20 10:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/513146-cdc-director-says-teachers-dont-need-critical-label

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CDC director says teachers don't need 'critical' label
The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Friday that teachers don't need to be formally recognized as "critical workers," a designation that would potentially exempt them from COVID
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[21-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Sally Moon#4922
So what I got from the hearing was one of the mail sorting machines of two in a district was turned into scrap metal and then soled off. And when questioned about that Dejoy said "He didn't know anything about that" He might as well smile and do the shrug emote cause it was pretty clear he doesn't know how to be a postmaster.


[21-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Moon Flower#6088
So if you're a critical worker, you can't catch the virus? :ponythinking:


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This whole debacle is sad proof that most of the people who ranted and raved about Clinton's emails don't give a single shit about blatant political corruption when it's /theirguy/ doing it.


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Moon Flower#6088
> a designation that would potentially exempt them from COVID


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, it means you;re disposable


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Sally Moon#4922
If you are a critical worker you are expendable because apparently teaching is a low skilled job to the GOP


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> a designation that would potentially exempt them from COVID-19 quarantine requirements.


[21-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The GOP has no respect for education or educators, not big surprise.


[21-Aug-20 11:03 PM] jlun2#8758
how does america become rich with their disregard in education tbh


[21-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
As education goes up, conservative voting goes down. Education is actively bad for their optics.


[21-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Moon Flower#6088
@prism stryder(intexda) Ah, makes more sense. Nice cut-off of the embed...


[21-Aug-20 11:04 PM] jlun2#8758
dont most "good" jobs now require high levels of education? do they expect high school dropouts to work in 20$B microchip factories that pay 100k?


[21-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Focus education into the top 10 percent and have them exploit the other 90.


[21-Aug-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, they expect high schoo dropouts to die


[21-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
There are trades that don't require a degree that make decent money. I'm very pro-education but college isn't for everyone and that's fine.

My issue is the GOP actively undermining education.


[21-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I was listening to a podcast and one of them made a good point Education matters a lot. But a lot of rich kids go to Yale for a job in Financing, its usually money oriented.


[21-Aug-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
when trump says he wants to bring manufactoring back to US does he mean this type

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[21-Aug-20 11:07 PM] jlun2#8758
or 3rd world sweat shop?


[21-Aug-20 11:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
either works as long as his rich friends get the cash


[21-Aug-20 11:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
given the way he talks he probably wants a repeat of the radium girls minus the legal consequences


[21-Aug-20 11:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

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The Radium Girls were female factory workers who contracted radiation poisoning from painting watch dials with self-luminous paint. The painting was done by women at three different United States Radium factories, and the term now applies to the women working at the facilities...
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[21-Aug-20 11:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> one in Orange, New Jersey, beginning around 1917; one in Ottawa, Illinois, beginning in the early 1920s; and a third facility in Waterbury, Connecticut.
> 
> The women in each facility had been told the paint was harmless, and subsequently ingested deadly amounts of radium after being instructed to "point" their brushes on their lips in order to give them a fine tip; some also painted their fingernails, face and teeth with the glowing substance. The women were instructed to point their brushes in this way, because using rags or a water rinse caused them to use more time and material, which was made from powdered radium, gum arabic and water.


[21-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
WW1 era was a magical time in general, so, no suprise there.


[21-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Opponent#3498
wasn't the only place in the world where people injested Radium while working on it.


[21-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think in the eyes of many business tycoons like Trump money makes up for the shame one has to endure. All the insults, ridicule and scandals seem to be mended by money. Why deal with humiliation when you can buy people off to compliment you?


[21-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
How about the CDC director goes suck a million cocks


[21-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I think many people, even among decision-makers, genuinly believed this was fine.


[21-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
bleeding-edge tech can do that to people.


[21-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I have a question, what do you guys think of Liberal arts?


[21-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
nothing good, but people are free to do with their lives as they please.


[21-Aug-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
back in mah day the arts were real CONSERVATIVE men


[21-Aug-20 11:21 PM] byte[]#2610
stupid libtards


[21-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
you can typically come back from a wrong education choice if you fail to make it work


[21-Aug-20 11:22 PM] byte[]#2610
I don't see people choosing liberal arts as a wrong education choice, because life shouldn't have to be about getting relevant education for a job


[21-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it shouldn't, yet here we are.


[21-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not a deal-breaker. Just adds another disadvantage.


[21-Aug-20 11:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
without liberal arts, we'd be fucked


[21-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
true. They sacrifice themselves for our sins.


[21-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think Liberal arts make you a more well rounded person though the job prospects are rather poor unless you want to be a writer. I don't mind that


[21-Aug-20 11:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Liberal arts generally covers three areas: sciences, arts, and humanities. Its central academic disciplines include philosophy, logic, linguistics, literature, history, political science, sociology, and psychology.


[21-Aug-20 11:26 PM] byte[]#2610
I think expecting people to be well rounded in general is a myth given that most adults in the US can't even read


[21-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
_most_ is probably an overexaggeration though.


[21-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Most can read, but a lot can't read especially well.


[21-Aug-20 11:27 PM] Opponent#3498
even if you define that as 50%+1


[21-Aug-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, that's hyperbolic


[21-Aug-20 11:28 PM] byte[]#2610
the actual number is 20%, but holy shit lmao 20% of the people around you being illiterate is nuts


[21-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
@prism stryder(intexda) That all sounds awesome, I would so try it. Though I guess I'll get my feet wet with an independent study until the funds are there for a more formal study


[21-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The majority of high school students where I work - these are general-ed kids, mind you - read in a very stilted, "stop gap" cadence, where it's clear they're really having to concentrate on each individual word. There's no fluidity to it.

I don't think they're unintelligent and I'm not trying to put them down by saying that. But we're dropping the ball on literacy.


[21-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They're literate, but not *very.*


[21-Aug-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
the literacy rate for young people is higher because of phones


[21-Aug-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this happened with other students i went to college with as well


[21-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I believe that, yeah.


[21-Aug-20 11:32 PM] byte[]#2610
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I'd like to find a corpus of writing from children in a non-self-selected sample (e.g. handwritten letters to the president from everyone in the same teacher's 7th grade class every year)--and score the kids today versus the kids 20 years ago on various objective measures of writing quality. I've heard the idea that exposure to all this amateur peer practice is hurting us, but I'd bet on the generation that conducts the bulk of their social lives via the written word over the generation that occasionally wrote book reports and letters to grandma once a year, any day.


[21-Aug-20 11:33 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I see a lot of older people on social media who can barely string a coherent sentence together.


[21-Aug-20 11:34 PM] jlun2#8758
im "forced" to read because my fetishes keep appearing as text only. so ty porn i guess

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[21-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I basically got stealth-educated as a kid by playing RPGs, which were super text-heavy.


[21-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Opponent#3498
I genuinly shudder to imagine what those might be.


[21-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Opponent#3498
given what Derpi has shown me.


[21-Aug-20 11:35 PM] jlun2#8758
turns out mind control usually leads to walls of text as image caption or dialogue so :shrugpony:
& sometimes only text with 1 cover art


[21-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, fair enough I suppose.


[21-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, it;s harder to portray mind control with still images


[21-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I should read more been putting it off for a while, haven't read a good story in awhile


[21-Aug-20 11:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i got back into reading with college because i had access to a well stocked library


[21-Aug-20 11:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
high school put me majorly off reading for a few years because it made the process such a chore to sit through while other children slogged through their portion during group reading and i got punished for reading ahead instead of waiting for them


[21-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Honestly, it could be that some of the students are better at reading than they come off; Oral reading can be harder than silent reading for some people.


[21-Aug-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and this wasnt liek a text book either, it was stories like moby dick, holes and such


[21-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I heard Moby Dick requires a very high reading level


[21-Aug-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chances are a lot of them likely were better at reading silently to themselves, i know i was. I was also impatient and these were stories. just let me read them myself and stop trying to force group readings onto narrative literature


[21-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The only group reading I enjoyed was plays. People actually got into it more, at least some of them; doing character voices and accents and actually *acting* rather than just reading.


[21-Aug-20 11:45 PM] jlun2#8758
>  i got punished for reading ahead instead of waiting for them
:ts_cry:


[21-Aug-20 11:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it was play scripts i might have had more fun as would the class


[21-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
My language art class use to have us mark our reading placement and we would get points based on how far we would read. I use to read Pendragon in middle school and I really enjoyed it until I realized I was reading the fifth volume in the series that was a real "D'oh" moment.


[21-Aug-20 11:49 PM] byte[]#2610
oral reading is hard for me, my speech is stunted


[21-Aug-20 11:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lower grades were funner about reading, it wasn't about reading in a group, it was just about reading at all.


[21-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Oh yeah. We'd have those Accelerated Reader tests to make sure we understood the books we read; and the class would communally get points for each test passed, and if we got enough we'd get a pizza party.

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[21-Aug-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am terrible at oral reading, i either stumble all over myself, or read too fast for anyone to understand me


[21-Aug-20 11:52 PM] jlun2#8758
i hate talking irl; keep stuttering :ts_cry:


[21-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I talk too soft and too fast


[21-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Though I don't have a problem reading out loud


[21-Aug-20 11:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
part of the thing as well is public performance and whether or not the reading material is interesting to you.


[21-Aug-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I found that in college i did better with textbooks in a group setting than alone


[21-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I do miss the whole reading assignment, it provided structure to the chaos


[21-Aug-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
alone my hvac textbook made me sleepy and i kept having to reread everything over and over again to absorb even a word of it


[22-Aug-20 12:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in a group setting i had a teacher to break it down and explain everything in finer details


[22-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that last one is a very familiar problem here.


[22-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
reading a dense technical text whole is... kind of impossible for me. Digging out specific bits and pieces is more difficult since you might be missing context, but far more engaging.


[22-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
by text I don't mean 10k words essay, I mean like a book.


[22-Aug-20 12:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my individual solution was to go to the homework questions page and break it down by that, looking for the terms  and reading from those


[22-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I use to do that but then I got too engaged with thr book and just began reading it


[22-Aug-20 12:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it oddly makes the book a little more engaging when you;re trying to find a needle in a haystack


[22-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Call me old fashion but I think people should put down their phones every once in awhile and read, who cares what kind of who-ha Trump posts on Twitter at that moment


[22-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
what if you're reading an ebook on your phone


[22-Aug-20 12:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what if there's a book that doesnt have a physical copy?


[22-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
hmm good point :nut:


[22-Aug-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Opponent reading pages & pages of text on ALUs made me think I forgot how addition works now :ts_cry:


[22-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Sally Moon#4922
ALU?


[22-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Arithmetic Logic Unit


[22-Aug-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How CPUs shove numbers together to make new numbers

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[22-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I read wikipedia back in 00's because it was the only non-bandwidth intensive entertainment.


[22-Aug-20 12:41 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Oh I thought you meant like a website


[22-Aug-20 12:42 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And a full drawer of kids books


[22-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Maybe 90's IBM compatible PC textbook


[22-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Now this book is still actual in computers. As a stand for monitor.


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[22-Aug-20 12:46 AM] byte[]#2610
I had to make a CPU for a class project


[22-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
My younger brother made my computer ^^


[22-Aug-20 12:47 AM] byte[]#2610
those aren't exactly comparable


[22-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah I'm not really good with computers, my brothers are though


[22-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm more business and market


[22-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I made a clock


[22-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine everyone has to in CS


[22-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It was fun, at least


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[22-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Opponent#3498
ecomedy is right...


[22-Aug-20 12:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I dunno. Considering how fucking expensive marine shipping actually is, how is this worth it?


[22-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
May not have been meant to be sold that far away from Thailand


[22-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That said I'm sure China grows enough pears for far cheaper


[22-Aug-20 12:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah that too.


[22-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's probably cheaper to fly the pears across the Pacific to be packed than to pay packers in Argentina


[22-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably... but probably much cheaper still to keep them chilled and ship them


[22-Aug-20 12:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That being said, it would probably be better to ship them to some other country nearby with lax labor laws.


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Labor is where the cost is, not transport


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pack them in Guatemala, or Belize or something


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Air transport is expensive


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Very limited loads


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And that just goes to show how much more expensive hiring Chilean packers would be


[22-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Opponent#3498
any sort of transport is expensive when it's perishable foodstuffs.


[22-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That it's worth it to not consider them. It's not expensive to do this in comparison to hire Argentinians


[22-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
I feel this is the 0.03% margin of profit at play.


[22-Aug-20 12:58 AM] Opponent#3498
someone calculated it's, strictly speaking, in ideal conditions, better to ship than to hire. And the bosses signed up without looking.


[22-Aug-20 01:01 AM] >That Guy#3386
It there were a less expensive method, you could be sure they'd do it.
Might also have to do with regulations in Argentina.


[22-Aug-20 01:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
Or lack of infrastructure.


[22-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Argentina is basically a first world country, so definitely regulations and wages.


[22-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably all came down to a calculation by some SAP software


[22-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares about the environment. We sell pears in sugar water


[22-Aug-20 01:04 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434545866674667520/746428872610021567/Call_Of_Duty_-_Civil_war_Official_trailer.mp4

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[22-Aug-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just listened to the voice clip of Trump saying he;s going to put officers and security at polls, and it sounds like a small child excitedly explaining things to their parent


[22-Aug-20 01:21 AM] byte[]#2610
he's really excited that he gets to pwn the libs at democracy


[22-Aug-20 01:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
What are some cops gonna do?


[22-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
manage the paper trail, if any.


[22-Aug-20 01:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that depends, will these be cops, or will these be ICE agents dressed as cops


[22-Aug-20 01:25 AM] >That Guy#3386
ICE agents wouldn't be an issue even if they were there, which the wouldn't be. Not like non-citizens are going to be at the polls.


[22-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
ICE is hardly relevant here. I think the idea of giving undocumented migrants the vote didn't go through, and neither should it ever do so.


[22-Aug-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump used ice as the feds with the black vans in portland


[22-Aug-20 01:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
Those weren't ICE.


[22-Aug-20 01:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
correction, they were a section of the homeland security


[22-Aug-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
just as ICE is


[22-Aug-20 01:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
What would ICE even do in this case? Deport voters?


[22-Aug-20 01:30 AM] byte[]#2610
I mean, ICE has had a recent history of deporting US-born citizens because they looked "too mexican"


[22-Aug-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
reassigned members of ICE have basically become federal police at the moment because they dont have a pesky oath to protect, holding them back

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[22-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being non-white and without ID on your person is enough for ICE to detain and deport you


[22-Aug-20 01:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
Voters will have ID.


[22-Aug-20 01:35 AM] >That Guy#3386
I really don't think ICE is going to be involved at all on election day.
And saying that they will be is counterproductive fearmongering.


[22-Aug-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
eh, fair point


[22-Aug-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
to bring it mroe back to historical events instead of conspiracy theorizing who Trump might send. This was tried before in 1981 on a much smaller scale.


[22-Aug-20 01:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513189-leaked-audio-shows-trump-praising-low-black-voter-turnout-in-2016

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[22-Aug-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_Security_Task_Force

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[22-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Opponent#3498
convenient, the ban is up.


[22-Aug-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The task force consisted of a group of armed, off-duty police officers wearing armbands, who were hired to patrol polling sites in African-American and Hispanic neighborhoods of Newark and Trenton.


[22-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
I wonder what drove people  to use a specific 35-year ban limit.


[22-Aug-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it may have been all they could get


[22-Aug-20 02:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/shycsmith/status/1296510440844009473?s=19

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[22-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
weaponized cancer


[22-Aug-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was really sweet until everything turned a shade of maga :ineedanadult:


[22-Aug-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
gross


[22-Aug-20 02:36 AM] byte[]#2610
these people are going to reproduce too, what a horrible prospect

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[22-Aug-20 02:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[22-Aug-20 02:46 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://twitter.com/shycsmith/status/1296510440844009473?s=19
@Itsthinking  nigga that’s fucked up

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[22-Aug-20 02:46 AM] illumnious#7938
> these people are going to reproduce too, what a horrible prospect
@byte[]  it’s called a fucking sin


[22-Aug-20 02:50 AM] Opponent#3498
so what's the big deal about this vid? Besides MAGA thing, which... Eh. Not uncommon.


[22-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Imagine finding your parent's proposal pics involving HW Bush or something

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[22-Aug-20 02:51 AM] byte[]#2610
idk, it's just random cringe

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[22-Aug-20 02:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm much more concerned about what happened with DeJoy blatantly lying under oath today and the allegations that Mnuchin was directly responsible for directing voting machines to be dismantled/destroyed


[22-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrMit-U7cxA

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[22-Aug-20 02:55 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony will probably be forgotten in a week


[22-Aug-20 02:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
on breitbart yes


[22-Aug-20 02:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Something tells me that, especially in states like mine where the postal service has effectively ceased to exist as a functional entity, people aren't going to have the *option* to forget that the mail got screwed with


[22-Aug-20 02:57 AM] jlun2#8758
even if they're Republican ?


[22-Aug-20 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, those are the people that are going to accept the claim that "coronavirus" is the reason why the mail is slow


[22-Aug-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm trying not to assume that anything will get through to them at this point


[22-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
all of this implies people actually still being interested in all the bullshit Trump does basicly non-stop lately.


[22-Aug-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
"lately"


[22-Aug-20 03:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
people care when it impacts them directly


[22-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
the pitch noticeably increased the last half a year.


[22-Aug-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
more like the bullshit has always been going on nonstop and it's only just now starting to surface after being suppressed in secret investigations for years


[22-Aug-20 03:02 AM] byte[]#2610
it has been accelerating though, largely because I suspect trump is getting older and more unhinged


[22-Aug-20 03:04 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"The mail sorting machines have been planned to be removed since 2009!" is something I've heard. So what? It's not 2009 anymore. Things have changed; we have a pandemic in an election year that's projected to put massive stress on the mail system. If it's waited that long it can wait another 73 days, but apparently it couldn't and kept happening even when the guy who today swore under oath that he "knew nothing, did nothing" claimed that he had halted the overhaul


[22-Aug-20 03:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At this point I would be totally unsurprised to learn that people within Trump's campaign have seriously considered political assassination as a means of gaining the upper hand


[22-Aug-20 03:09 AM] byte[]#2610
only if his opponent was puerto rican


[22-Aug-20 03:10 AM] byte[]#2610
biden's white so it's ok


[22-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Opponent#3498
he's also Trump's personal boogeyman. The line 'I'm not losing to Biden' was heard before the primaries, even.


[22-Aug-20 03:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/513198-warren-calls-for-postal-service-board-members-to-fire-dejoy-or-resign

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said board members for the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) should fire Postmaster General Louis DeJoy or resign themselves amid controversy over planned changes he’s announced.
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[22-Aug-20 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"fix the problem or make it infinitely worse, your choice"


[22-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was actually looking into how ME and NE handle their electoral votes


[22-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Using the 'congressional district method', these states allocate two electoral votes to the state popular vote winner, and then one electoral vote to the popular vote winner in each Congressional district (2 in Maine, 3 in Nebraska)"


[22-Aug-20 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
neither one's in the NPVIC either


[22-Aug-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
ive no idea how america vote for president


[22-Aug-20 04:11 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
do they vote online or offline?


[22-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh


[22-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here's what it's like when I vote


[22-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I go into a school's gym. I walk up to a table, put my ID on a scanner. I sign my name digitally. They ask if you want electronic or paper voting.


[22-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Paper, they give you a scantron basically. Electronic, they take out this cartridge, walk you over to a machine, and plug it in. You touch the screen to vote, and right after you touch, the machine shows you that it's printing what is basically a "receipt" that it keeps (it's just to show you that there's a paper trail). That's voting.


[22-Aug-20 04:19 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
we here when voting for representatives, people just gather together, show id card, then take a piece of paper, mark the one you want to vote for, then put it into a box


[22-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's not private is it


[22-Aug-20 04:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
our local representative is the principle of our biggest high school... he just have got reelected for times by arguing the whole school vote for him


[22-Aug-20 04:25 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
we here it's illegal to spend money to make propagandas for voting, so only famous guys can get voted


[22-Aug-20 04:27 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
usually principles, hospital deans or chairmans of production coorperations


[22-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
illegal to privately fund an election campaign and obviously no public funds available. Well, I guess that's the reverse of US system (as well as ours, in a way)


[22-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
add in private vs not, and basicly China's election system is the polar opposite of the generally accepted one across the world :P


[22-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking btw I didn't know US had a paper voting alternative


[22-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Opponent#3498
that makes mail-in even less alien.


[22-Aug-20 04:36 AM] Serenity#9645
it was always scantron for me. paper voting. but last election since i work worldwide now its been requesting absentee, not mass mail in voting


[22-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Crow#5457
absentee and mail in are the same thing


[22-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Serenity#9645
one you ask for and fill out a form, the other they send out a ballot to your last known address, my last known one is 4 years old.


[22-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Serenity#9645
i was in germany most of last year, would they know to DHL me to the place supplied by my job if i didnt apply for it? would they know to give me a ballot to my job supplied place in kansas? no, cus i got a ballot for someone random (not a request) and not one for me so i requested for one


[22-Aug-20 04:43 AM] Serenity#9645
so i just gotta think, where is my mailed in ballot?


[22-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
m8 there's no difference


[22-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's up to each state and then up to each county how they handle contacting people


[22-Aug-20 04:45 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
chinese government officers can't own companies, buy stocks or cooperate with businessmans, maybe thats why westerners call our gov communism even if we're running free market economy


[22-Aug-20 04:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The forms and ID you have to provide are the same


[22-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Absentee" means it's a ballot sent to you because you cannot physically be in the polling station. This originates mainly from letting soldiers vote.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
"Mail-in" means it's a ballot sent to you by mail.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
The ONLY difference here is that the latter is slightly more restrictive.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Nebbie#8545
Astronauts vote absentee, but not by mail.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.fvap.gov/

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[22-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you're out of the US you should be going through there


[22-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The forms you have to fill in are the same as for the states that allow in-state mail-in voting


[22-Aug-20 04:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
SSN (usually just last 4 digits), US permanent address, and mailing address


[22-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
@AlchemistLiang westerners call you communism because they're stupid, primarily. It makes for a good talking point when convenient. It usually isn't convenient though, after all, cheap smartphones come from China (along with cheap everything else)


[22-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Serenity#9645
trust me i know ive been there, i just doubt the mail in ballot i got at this address ive been at for 7 months for random person was requested like needed for FVAP


[22-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's up to each registered voter to make sure their county official's registry is kept up to date


[22-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Serenity#9645
cus you need to request each time. vs mass mail in that just sends them out thats a difference. so where did my ballot goto if i got a random persons?


[22-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What ballot


[22-Aug-20 04:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There have been zero ballots sent out to anyone


[22-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump isn't the official GOP candidate yet


[22-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Serenity#9645
in local elections, if local fails why should i trust national?


[22-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How can there be a federal election ballot if there's only one party with a confirmed nominee


[22-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Serenity#9645
i should have clarified that, but still holds true


[22-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Local elections are entirely separate from federal


[22-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
The big concern is Trump has sabotaged the post office.


[22-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Serenity#9645
they are seperate but why do you have so much faith if 200k cant get it right and dismiss 3-4% and have arrests for fraud vs millions for a -almost- whole country


[22-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
Even if his orders are all reversed, he's done damage.


[22-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
If that damage is the least bit targeted, it could swing the election.


[22-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I have zero faith in a system that made the loser of the elections president

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[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Serenity#9645
then why trust a less stable platform for voting and say it is the same as requesting and truthfully jumping trough alot of annoying hoops to vote. vs a ballot maybe making it to your door, maybe being counted as a signature invalidating it, maybe being sabotaged, maybe discounted from being late by USPS fault not yours?


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
He didn't lose the election. He won the college.
The election itself just never represented the popular vote.


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
It should.


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
And we don't hav much choice with the virus.


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Perhaps


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
The president should be making the system more robust.


[22-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Instead he's trying to burn it.


[22-Aug-20 05:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Yepa


[22-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump should be trying to ensure postal voting is secure and on time


[22-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Instead he's trying to sabotage it because he knows that the more voters there are the less likely he is to win


[22-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden shouldn't concede if there's the slightest irregularity


[22-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No candidate should. Trump shouldn't if there actually is.


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
There's gonna be shitloads of irregularities


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Serenity#9645
i see protests and actual peaceful ones almost every day truthfully if they can gather in mass then they should be able to vote in person. absentee has clear rules of who can apply and i jump trough the hoops all the time for it cus i got a traveling job


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
there's always a slight irregularity though.


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Entire states where the postal votes aren't counted because the USPS choked out


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
with no malicious intent, where there be people there be mistakes. And we have a fuckton of malicious intent rn.


[22-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We can't have two elections decided by SCOTUS in 20 years, that shit _will_ lead to mass insurrection.


[22-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As it stands we may not know the president-elect until mid-December


[22-Aug-20 05:03 AM] jlun2#8758
>  that shit will lead to mass insurrection.
do people even go outside for this


[22-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Serenity#9645
there will always be corruption, but more hands means more corruption, from the republican mailmaster in a democrat area not passing it on, to the person who counts them and says the signature is invalid cus it says democrat


[22-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Nebbie#8545
@jlun2 see the BLM protests.


[22-Aug-20 05:04 AM] jlun2#8758
well then


[22-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking also, here's a fun thought.


[22-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
Young people are more than capable of going outside when politically motivated. Old people aren't getting any more active.


[22-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
the longer this whole _thing_ drags on, the longer the powers that be have the opportunity to disrupt it.


[22-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
The powers that be don't like Trump.


[22-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
make the 'Putin elects US presidents' meme into reality.


[22-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
He is too disruptive to them being.


[22-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Serenity#9645
have you seen absentee voting rules? old people get absentee by law (by the rules correction).


[22-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, it'll probably be both ways too Nebbie


[22-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Said it before, will say it again


[22-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Opponent#3498
it's just, the longer it goes on the less it resembles anything like an actual honest vote.


[22-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Actually, it's probably exactly what he meant

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[22-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`It's time now for you and me to become more politically mature and realize what the ballot is for; what we're supposed to get when we cast a ballot; and that if we don't cast a ballot, it's going to end up in a situation where we're going to have to cast a bullet. It's either a ballot or a bullet.`


[22-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably meant more systemic obstacles to the ballot that weren't the sabotage of the postal service.


[22-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I need to reread Bloom County....


[22-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Serenity#9645
thats a pretty bad quote :S
"that if we don't cast a ballot, it's going to end up in a situation where we're going to have to cast a bullet."
violence to people who dont vote like him is always not something i believe in
its like the man in court saying that the people will rise up and kill because of the lockdown. please no violence just get the crazies out and rebuild we have terms for that reason, maybe vote 3rd party if you dont like both cus were long long overdue for a multiparty system.


[22-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was the 1960s and he was Black


[22-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He did get assassinated, so


[22-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Serenity#9645
and like in the 20s males voted for female rights and males voted it in without making them get SS, in the 60s MLK as many bad things he done wanted peaceful ways to bring people together and i loved that and he got people to vote for that. it works. but most people that get possitive change gets assassinated too cus its a cultural shift


[22-Aug-20 05:20 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1296944031264649216?s=21

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[22-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Serenity#9645
shitty thing that happens but when more then half of people are on the side of rights, the figure head that made it happen gets attention of 49-% of people that just want them to die


[22-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Assassinations only make martyrs


[22-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk, Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated and he just became an excuse and later a meme


[22-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Serenity#9645
from my understanding malcom x made people fear for black rights for use of violence that hurt the movement and he advocated for separate black communities other then integration and understanding. but MLK was a bigger voice and had a bigger movement in peace and co-existance. correct me if im wrong but thats what i learned


[22-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
MLK was a socialist


[22-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Malcom X left the Nation of Islam, went on Hajj, and changed a lot of his beliefs


[22-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His assassination was NoI people who hated him


[22-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The entire leftist movement got squashed hard and condensed into "look, we gave niggers the same rights as whites under the law, please stop with this 'workers' rights stuff'"


[22-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And so it was


[22-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
All the school history books truncated "civil rights movement" to "MLK had a dream"


[22-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Conveniently leave out all of the spying the government did


[22-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Serenity#9645
but was MLK more of a peaceful movement? i didnt have this looked up so correct me. this he was given some on his views that we all take for granted today.


[22-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was


[22-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Serenity#9645
dont get me wrong MLK did bad things, but i look past that for being able to be with my friends at my job and grab a bier afterword and thank him for it.


[22-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Stuff like this will definitely make some people go "Yeah maybe Jim Crow is a bit dumb"


[22-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://jacksonfreepress.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2013/05/23/woolworth_courtMikeOBrien_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708e3fa67d9af9d

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[22-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
idk Its, they went against the established social norms


[22-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And tried to race mix


[22-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Serenity#9645
is that not good?


[22-Aug-20 05:36 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone knows societies that only consist of one race have the least problems!


[22-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd say I'm being satirical, but I'm really just saying exactly the same things a lot of posters on the site have been saying


[22-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Posters that, for some really weird coincidence


[22-Aug-20 05:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tend to have a lot of aryanne/nazi image faves


[22-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Spelling doughnut as "donut" is a distant second for greatest injustice in that pic, btw


[22-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
do nut
:nut:


[22-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Serenity#9645
fuck one race people, one cultural norm is better, you have everyone understand that violence is bad and that there is sexual freedom shouldn't be tainted by people who move there that believe against those things that are normal in other counties


[22-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Serenity#9645
why do people want to make the country they ran from into that country, when so many others love it but they refuse to change?


[22-Aug-20 05:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair you need proof to cite that all of the muslim panic isn't just right wing grift stories, and actually represents a high enough percentage to be relevant, from what I recall, at least in the US, muslims are actually more liberal


[22-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good question to ask the pilgrims


[22-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Serenity#9645
i didnt say muslims? where did you get that from?


[22-Aug-20 05:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
who is trying to 'make their country the country they ran away from'?


[22-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ie. the religious group of zealots considered too extremists by the extremist protestans in europe that """"""""fled"""""""" to america to set up a european colony and be just like the place they'd just left


[22-Aug-20 05:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
I recognize the rhetoric, it's a dogwhistle.
Unless you can tell me that there's plenty of things to show sikhs, hindi, bhuddists are doing this


[22-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Serenity#9645
polish and turkish goto germany and cause violence and are against freedom of sexuality and want to make it like their country they ran from. nothing about religion? your taking stuff out of nowhere, i never asked my turkish friend what the patrons at the bar belive, i never asked the polish co-worker that said gays shouldnt have rights what he belived


[22-Aug-20 05:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
you think people escaping the congo are attacking people with machetes? and creating warlord zones? Who is doing this?


[22-Aug-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
polish people are generally awful due to their country sadly, and due to europe being europe there are likely far more than any scary brown people thing going around europe


[22-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Every pole I've met, and I've met plenty, left that country because they hate how conservative it's become


[22-Aug-20 05:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
but I believe serenity is referring to the people that do it for the wage disparity, not culture


[22-Aug-20 05:45 AM] Serenity#9645
so why do you assume i ment religion?


[22-Aug-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
because it's a very common rhetoric about 'muslim invaders', 'no-go zones with sharia law'


[22-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon ```idk, Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated and he just became an excuse and later a meme```
he was also apparently the absolute worst guy to kill too xD A blatant bigot that put interests of the country ahead of his own and advocated for more rights for Balcan states as a means to keep the empire stable. A guy willing and able, regardless of his personal beliefs.


[22-Aug-20 05:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
so forgive me for being vigilant about that, I apologize


[22-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Of the 20 or so poles I work with now, I think an easy 18 of them want absolutely nothing to do with "polish culture" and just want to live their life here


[22-Aug-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
it does make sense though that a large amount of polish immigrants would be fleeing from the really shitty fascistic culture poland has got going


[22-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Serenity#9645
im not religious and dont give a fuck about who you pray too as long as it brings you happiness and it doesnt hurt people. i dont ask people who you belive in. i just see turkish people stab eachother personally in a bar, and i get told i shouldnt have rights by a polish guy cus im gay. so is it wrong to say leave that stuff behind if you move?


[22-Aug-20 05:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
so a disproportionate amount vs actual population would be lgbt and such no doubt


[22-Aug-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
I agree with you that we should never accept fucked up shit like that of course.


[22-Aug-20 05:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
Bigotry has no place in society, it's counterproductive to everything a first world country stands for.


[22-Aug-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's totally unnecessary and only causes harm, there is no benefit to it.


[22-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Bigotry has no place in society

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[22-Aug-20 05:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
though capitalists due like to use racial tensions as a sort of bludgeoning tool to prevent class solidarity


[22-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Serenity#9645
one of my good friends is turkish, i DJed at his bar whenever i work there. he loves germany and has no care im gay. but idk how many fights and quite a few stabbings i saw. leave that gang shit behind.


[22-Aug-20 05:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Being a piece of shit grifting racist bigot seems to work pretty well for some


[22-Aug-20 05:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
Trump can prevent unions from forming and being effective by spreading rhetoric that make you demonize brown people

being a piece of shit grifting racist bigot is very profitable with big NGOs


[22-Aug-20 05:50 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon we have 1 intelligent species on this entire planet & still cant get along despite being the same species


[22-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
Poor people do tend to be far more likely to participate in gang activity


[22-Aug-20 05:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
people don't usually tend to willingly endanger their lives unless they can benefit from it.
rich people aren't known for burglary


[22-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Disaffected people with no realistic outlook out of their shit situation tend to slant towards violence


[22-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Serenity#9645
turkish people are successful business owners, they hold good jobs. why do you think they are poor?


[22-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What the worst that can happen, they get free board and meals?


[22-Aug-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
are all turkish people that way?


[22-Aug-20 05:52 AM] jlun2#8758
well corporate crimes pay way more than gangs @dissociativity
embezzling that 0.1% of a company's wealth can earn you way more than most burglary


[22-Aug-20 05:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
not everyone is a kebab store owner, some people are underpaid kebab store workers being illegally underpaid, hospitality is rife with wage left, and business owners are not your allies or friends.


[22-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Serenity#9645
no but neither are germans, but in germany where i was at people who are resident there have benifits to help them get a job, including housing to get them on their feet


[22-Aug-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
small businesses are not your friends.


[22-Aug-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
small businesses are far less likely to have union participation and far more likely to commit wage theft


[22-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
unf, you're generating so many screencaps for /mlp/ to rage about right now


[22-Aug-20 05:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
so all that does is create disaffected, underpaid turkish workers often enough, you think business owners wanna pay people the same race fair wages if they can make more doing otherwise?


[22-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's making me hard knowing how mad someone's getting over all this


[22-Aug-20 05:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn I'm cooming at the thought , it's going straight (gay) to me ego


[22-Aug-20 05:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna need to get a new pair of speedos, the elastic on these is gonna break


[22-Aug-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
hey, I create content for free, I wonder when horse famous will notice /mlp/'s butthurt enough to follow me and I'll get horse infamous purely based on political posting, maybe I'll top woot for 2020 worst fan?


[22-Aug-20 05:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
I aspire to be crowned worst fan by /mlp/


[22-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You'd have to draw a whole lot or nazi and rape porn to come near woot


[22-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Serenity#9645
ok so you have gangs fighting in the street well many others are working at kauflands or owning their own kabap stand/bar or working on aircraft with me. so you say they are lesser then me? so they must be violent? thats pretty racist to call my friends more inclined to gangs cus of their origin vs their heart.


[22-Aug-20 05:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn you rite, I'm pretty bad at drawing, maybe I should write rape nazi porn instead


[22-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Seriously I think only aryanne's original creator has drawn more nazi images than woot


[22-Aug-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
Aspire Fall OC story where she tinkers a fucking machine contraption to 'fuck nazis' soon


[22-Aug-20 05:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1296989517027487744

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Arizona Senator @MarthaMcSally, who is down five points in the polls vs @CaptMarkKelly, suggests to her supporters that they “fast a meal” and give her campaign the money that they saved from fasting. https://t.co/MrH2DXax8d
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[22-Aug-20 05:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
that should do it, disasterous gorey consequences, but that's okay there's one less nazi in the world.


[22-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I met Kelly


[22-Aug-20 05:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I hope he crushes her


[22-Aug-20 05:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wonder if I'm living rent free anywhere rn


[22-Aug-20 06:00 AM] Opponent#3498
@Serenity looks to be reverse racism, used to advocate for communism :twismug:


[22-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/search/text/dissociativity/


[22-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apparently you're Crow

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[22-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Congrats on being a mod


[22-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Serenity#9645
i seriously cant understand that statement?


[22-Aug-20 06:05 AM] Opponent#3498
'The turks are noble, innocent people, driven from home by their vile, oppressive government, only to languish under the boot of their new masters - the rich germans and their turncoat brothers the small business owners. They must unite and sieze the means of production, by force if nessesary' :twismug:


[22-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
racism is generally whites vs non-whites. Or, in more nuanced ways, majority vs minority.


[22-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Opponent#3498
reverse racism is, appropriately enough, the reverse of that.


[22-Aug-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
fwiw I'm pretty sure it's mostly patachu @Teaspoon


[22-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Serenity#9645
so they leave a violent area to get out of violence. so they goto germany and intigrate to be aircraft workers, and all the normal jobs, small buisness owners. and you take that as communistic? im so confused.


[22-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
GASP


[22-Aug-20 06:07 AM] byte[]#2610
80/20 rule


[22-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
no, not gasp. Sigh.


[22-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't speak ill of Patachu, he'll sue you!


[22-Aug-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
just like arma's gonna sue me for not moving to france when his company wanted to pay me 6 eur an hour


[22-Aug-20 06:08 AM] byte[]#2610
fuck outta here with that shit


[22-Aug-20 06:09 AM] jlun2#8758
@Teaspoon tyvm; never knew there was  an archive search


[22-Aug-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
desuarchive isn't the only one


[22-Aug-20 06:09 AM] byte[]#2610
but it's one of the few that archives /mlp/


[22-Aug-20 06:09 AM] jlun2#8758
if i knew earlier searching for certain pokemon news wouldve been lot easier


[22-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
From a quick search of "TSP" there I learned:
Joey and I are the same person
Arma is my alt
Nebbie is in lockstep with my thoughts
And also Nebbie is trans


[22-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's safe to say that /mlp/ers are clinically retarded


[22-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What was even that link


[22-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Are we just some show to them


[22-Aug-20 06:25 AM] Opponent#3498
they're operating under incorrect assumptions and incomplete info, so, no wonder.


[22-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're also operating at 70% CPU tops

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[22-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
This feels so strange


[22-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
70% is preventing them from seeing that you, Joey, and Nebbie are the same person


[22-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Haveing people just look at what we chat here and talk about it there


[22-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
that's how it feels to be popular and relevant :3


[22-Aug-20 06:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn I'm a protected class


[22-Aug-20 06:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
I swear the longer I post, the more wild the conspiracies get.


[22-Aug-20 06:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
what the fuck are you talking about jessie?

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[22-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
April Fool 2021, It's tankiebooru
we ban all the dissenters, sanitize the booru
IT DOESN'T END AFTER 24 HOURS


[22-Aug-20 06:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
I literally explained that in the hospitality industry they literally commonly pay below minimum wage, and poor immigrants are afraid of speaking up


[22-Aug-20 06:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Good joke haha yes comrade


[22-Aug-20 06:47 AM] jimm#1439
I prefer the US response to crap like this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8651383/New-Zealand-man-hugged-quarantining-friend-JAILED-six-weeks-breaking-coronavirus-rules.html

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New Zealand man jailed for six weeks for hugging quarantining friend
Jesse Courtney Welsh, 33, has been jailed in New Zealand after he broke lockdown rules after hugging an isolating friend at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Auckland after they returned from Australia.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/21/16/32224268-0-image-a-103_1598024241564.jpg


[22-Aug-20 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
how dumb are these people?


[22-Aug-20 06:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean jailing is shitty, but like, hanging out with someone quarantining is objectively bad and harmful to the public


[22-Aug-20 06:47 AM] Opponent#3498
what is 'hospitality industry'?


[22-Aug-20 06:48 AM] jimm#1439
I'm starting to feel like the world's response is out of proportion in general


[22-Aug-20 06:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US response of jailing people for 20 years over carrying some weed vs 6 weeks for someone potentially spreading a lethal disease?


[22-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it's emotional @jimm


[22-Aug-20 06:49 AM] Opponent#3498
it feels like people thought that Spanish flu was the pandamic to end all pandemics, just like WW1 was The Great War to end all wars.


[22-Aug-20 06:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean restaurants and such, small ones pay below minimum wage to their immigrant workforce very commonly, though plenty of people born in country get exploited too.


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Opponent#3498
so even something **_relatively_** harmless triggers blind panic everywhere.


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"very commonly"


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Almost always


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
this happens even in australia frequently where workers have better rights, wage theft was only just made a crime, small business owners do this all the time with their small restaurants


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If a job can take tips, it's subject to different minimum wage limits


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think the average is $4.50 an hour


[22-Aug-20 06:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If the job takes tips


[22-Aug-20 06:51 AM] Opponent#3498
yikes.


[22-Aug-20 06:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
big chains like mcdonalds don't tend to do this as much because the owner of a given branch can be utterly fucked up by big mc'Ds
I mean this is a global problem even in relatively nice places like Australia


[22-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped


[22-Aug-20 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
like the business owners just wanna leach out as much profit as they can, and I don't just mean like, unliveable american 'wages', I mean like, people in australia being paid 7 dollars an hour where the legal minwage is like 15, 20 for casual workers


[22-Aug-20 06:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you work service, you're considered worthless


[22-Aug-20 06:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup.


[22-Aug-20 06:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is literally so hyper-normalized that poor people, especially immigrants without access to welfare simply just fuckin, deal with being illegally underpaid


[22-Aug-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
we've had hospitality unions here recently start getting involved in shit and revealed the sheer horrific scope of the problem, but this is in no way contained to australia, america and such, this is an issue in europe too


[22-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Aug-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
the UK it's also a huge issue.
everyone thinks you're less than human with an 'entry level' job.


[22-Aug-20 06:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
clearly we should all just learn to code.


[22-Aug-20 06:54 AM] Crow#5457
wow, people think I and dissociativity are the same person? how the hell


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
I'm a social democrat lmao


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, I don't get it either, I think we're in pretty different timezones too.


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
like maybe the reason we're not seen posting at the same time much is because..... humans need sleep?


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
and I don't art


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you both aren't sucking Trump's dick RIGHT NOW then there's no difference between you


[22-Aug-20 06:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean I don't much either, not that I share anyway


[22-Aug-20 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
my writing is okay but I'm self conscious about it still, my drawing is pretty terrible lol, my pfp is by AaronMK


[22-Aug-20 06:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
I won some art raffle today which is awesome, so new punk poner pfp coming lol


[22-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But how do we know you aren't actually aaronmk?!?!


[22-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Opponent#3498
we don't. He's gone conveniently missing too.


[22-Aug-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
he's posting plenty in two servers I'm in


[22-Aug-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
well, not plenty, what with the fulltime wagecuck work in america


[22-Aug-20 06:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
not that weird conspiracy poasters care


[22-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Little do they know, you're actually my tulpa


[22-Aug-20 06:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
As is most of the moderation team


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, you're also a mod now btw


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
ngl it would be hilarious if you did actually make me a mod


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Fuck, no, you're an admin


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The secret admin


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
like imagine the response, they'd leave in droves.


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:nut:


[22-Aug-20 06:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
and I'd happily attend to reports as something to do while I'm stuck inside with covid lockdown


[22-Aug-20 07:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:nut:


[22-Aug-20 07:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean hey, I'd happily consider it if you wanna, it's not like I've got much better to do that watch /mlp/ seethe and play caves of qud and rimworld


[22-Aug-20 07:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
write some poner fics in my spare time and such


[22-Aug-20 07:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
one day actually poast some when I'm not anxious about it


[22-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean, poke luna if you'd actually want to be staff


[22-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The luna that's actually celestia


[22-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's complicated


[22-Aug-20 07:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
@Luna von Rainy' wanna make /mlp/ seethe while getting extra reports handled and giving me an excuse to browse more art?


[22-Aug-20 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a mind numbing slog


[22-Aug-20 07:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
I would actually like that honestly, I need something to fill a bunch of time, though there will bea few days in future I won't be super available within a month due to moving house, other than, super free, economy in the shitter and locked down hard so no work beyond repairing random ebay shit


[22-Aug-20 07:05 AM] byte[]#2610
though I admit during my final few months I spent more time dealing with cybersec shit than onsite stuff


[22-Aug-20 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
I literally do not care if I am doxxed honestly, what are they gonna do? I'm in Australia


[22-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Crow#5457
aaron still owes me a finished conversation


[22-Aug-20 07:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean you could dm him, he's still alive


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
just wagecucked hard.


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
can't dm people not on the same server as you


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
"Add friend"


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
oof, I can get him to friend you if ya like


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] byte[]#2610
like magic, it works


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
considering I'm the reason he's no longer on this server, I doubt it


[22-Aug-20 07:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't even know that particular slog of drama


[22-Aug-20 07:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
something happened?


[22-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/725841757215916054


[22-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
he was convincing me, then he blew up at me


[22-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
and ragequit


[22-Aug-20 07:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
weird, doesn't seem like him to me


[22-Aug-20 07:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
never known him to be like that, must've been a bad day


[22-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
He’s gone so


[22-Aug-20 07:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
gee /pol/, who do you mean?

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[22-Aug-20 07:58 AM] byte[]#2610
soros


[22-Aug-20 08:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
soros, da jooooos, globalists, ect, ect ect, yes, they are financing a my little pony ||porn|| art board


[22-Aug-20 08:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
tfw ever since that CoD cold war trailer right wingers are unironically poasting about Yuri Bezmenov constantly, OBSESSED like 'noo this is what he predicted the commies are winning noo social progressivism = communism"


[22-Aug-20 08:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, this USSR defector predicted a my little pony imageboard would ban you for being a dickhead in the year 2020 and this is a sign of communist infiltration

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[22-Aug-20 08:02 AM] byte[]#2610
did you see the total meltdown on animemes after they banned people from calling :transgender_pride_flag: characters traps


[22-Aug-20 08:03 AM] byte[]#2610
feels like I had deja vu


[22-Aug-20 08:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
yup, like pottery


[22-Aug-20 08:04 AM] byte[]#2610
literally the exact same shit


[22-Aug-20 08:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is exactly zero difference "what do you mean this was cringe and horrible the whole time? I'm just going to be mad because we used to allowed to hate trans people, and it's based and good"


[22-Aug-20 08:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
same w db, the behaviors and art was still bad, and even against the rules, it just was really lazily enforced for many years


[22-Aug-20 08:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
when shitty behavior wasn't acted against and now it is, it doesn't mean said shitty behavior was never shitty.


[22-Aug-20 08:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```soros, da jooooos, globalists, ect, ect ect, yes, they are financing a my little pony porn art board```
I mean, you never know.


[22-Aug-20 08:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can see furries, but we're too small as a community to influence like that, furries are HUGE


[22-Aug-20 08:16 AM] byte[]#2610
it's whatever the favorite boogeyman of the day is


[22-Aug-20 08:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
death to all bronies, long live the pony fandom, heil soros


[22-Aug-20 08:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
do I get my check now?


[22-Aug-20 08:19 AM] byte[]#2610
$10 has been deposited in your bank account


[22-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
As we all know, disassociativity is actually just me in a fancy suit. The fancy suit is so you can't tell we're the same.


[22-Aug-20 08:20 AM] jlun2#8758
hivemind :derpchrys:


[22-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
Did you take your leftist hivemind pills today, jlun2?


[22-Aug-20 08:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Also if Soros paid for Derpi, he could get it hosted on some island where the laws aren't as stupid.


[22-Aug-20 08:22 AM] byte[]#2610
and I wouldn't be poor as fuck


[22-Aug-20 08:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
look mr soros, if we're already doing what you want, you may as well give us money for it, right?


[22-Aug-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
He's a capitalist, kid.


[22-Aug-20 08:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's amazing how "based" started as an insulting term for drug addicts that got appropriated by a rapper who redefined it and gave it a positive connotation and now it's been re-appropriated by a group of people who seem hellbent on making sure it means the opposite of what Lil' B meant and is indicative that...well, they're drinking the kool-aid


[22-Aug-20 08:27 AM] Nebbie#8545
The money only comes if you blakkmail him.


[22-Aug-20 08:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn I forgot


[22-Aug-20 08:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
truly soros is a big brain capitalist in paying communists to take his wealth by force


[22-Aug-20 08:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's 49d chess.


[22-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
@WingbeatPony the fact that "fam" and "simp" are out of the bag suggests to me that there's a total meltdown of slang right now.


[22-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
You're going to see Biden use AAVE in SOTU addresses in a few years.


[22-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Nebbie#8545
And people will mokk him for the whole "hello fellow kids" thing, *not* racial things, because they won't even know.


[22-Aug-20 08:40 AM] Nebbie#8545
I do see "based" primarily being used by people on the right in relation to things that are pro-authoritarian or anti-equality etc. but that won't last.


[22-Aug-20 08:42 AM] byte[]#2610
people are probably going to stop saying it anyway


[22-Aug-20 08:44 AM] Nebbie#8545
I doubt that.


[22-Aug-20 08:45 AM] Nebbie#8545
The reason it works to begin with is that it acts as a past tense verb to say someone has been made good.


[22-Aug-20 08:46 AM] Nebbie#8545
English has some of those, but they're awkward.


[22-Aug-20 08:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
language is descriptive, this is basically proof of how segregated language doesn't really work


[22-Aug-20 08:49 AM] Crow#5457
it's funny how conservatives will make fun of leftists for being "jobless lazy bums" while also denigrating them for being paid by soros to think a certain way

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[22-Aug-20 08:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's certainly not prescriptive


[22-Aug-20 08:50 AM] Crow#5457
it's like they don't actually care their beliefs don't make any sense as long as it owns the libs


[22-Aug-20 08:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
wen u own tha libs so hard u own urself


[22-Aug-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Based is a good slang word no matter the context


[22-Aug-20 08:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
And yes it is AAVE which makes the use by the right weird


[22-Aug-20 08:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Simps are not based, fam


[22-Aug-20 08:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
big if true

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[22-Aug-20 08:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
noooo, the duck badge is clearly just like what the nazis did!

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[22-Aug-20 09:02 AM] ononim#8141
What the fuck I stumbled upon


[22-Aug-20 09:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
just laughing at /mlp/ being dumb


[22-Aug-20 09:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
they're all having a normal one, very normal and fine


[22-Aug-20 09:03 AM] ononim#8141
I honestly hoped /mlp/ would go half dead with people bumping generals and drawthread


[22-Aug-20 09:06 AM] ononim#8141
Not this wacky shit


[22-Aug-20 09:07 AM] Crow#5457
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[22-Aug-20 09:13 AM] ononim#8141
Ffs


[22-Aug-20 09:13 AM] ononim#8141
Should had worn a mask


[22-Aug-20 09:15 AM] ononim#8141
I wonder how different native-settler relations would be in North America if frenchies remained a big player, since they were more into fur trade than crop growth iirc


[22-Aug-20 09:45 AM] ononim#8141
Anyway


[22-Aug-20 09:47 AM] ononim#8141
If you're not giving late Sassanids tactical and strategical info on Eastern Romans and Rashiduns along with engineering and medical info, what are you even doing?


[22-Aug-20 10:37 AM] wren#0114

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[22-Aug-20 11:34 AM] Phelan#7647

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[22-Aug-20 11:50 AM] Treascair#7785
ohwaityoureserious.gif


[22-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

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Meet the Hidden Architect Behind America's Racist Economics
Nobel laureate James Buchanan is the intellectual linchpin of the Koch-funded attack on democratic institutions, argues Duke historian Nancy MacLean
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[22-Aug-20 02:23 PM] Crow#5457
> In 1965 the economist launched a center dedicated to his theories at the University of Virginia, which later relocated to George Mason University. MacLean describes how he trained thinkers to push back against the Brown v. Board of Education decision to desegregate America’s public schools and to challenge the constitutional perspectives and federal policy that enabled it. She notes that he took care to use economic and political precepts, rather than overtly racial arguments, to make his case, which nonetheless gave cover to racists who knew that spelling out their prejudices would alienate the country.


[22-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Crow#5457
so this is the guy who planted the seed for the southern strategy


[22-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Crow#5457
> Economists Tyler Cowen and Alexander Tabarrok, both of George Mason University, have noted the two men’s affinities, heralding Calhoun “a precursor of modern public choice theory” who “anticipates” Buchanan’s thinking. MacLean observes that both focused on how democracy constrains property owners and aimed for ways to restrict the latitude of voters. She argues that unlike even the most property-friendly founders Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, Buchanan wanted a private governing elite of corporate power that was wholly released from public accountability.


[22-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
ironic that this ultra free market capitalist wanted a ruling illuminati-like class to restrict the rights of voters


[22-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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[22-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> WordPress, the iOS app, lets you build and manage a website right from your iPhone or iPad, for free.
> WordPress founding developer Matt Mullenweg is accusing Apple of cutting off the ability to update that app — until or unless he adds in-app purchases so the most valuable company in the world can extract its 30 percent cut of the money.


[22-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
oh yeah, apple's going to get destroyed in court if this gets added to the epic games lawsuit


[22-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Crow#5457
their only defense so far seems to be a PR argument that this whole thing was "staged" by epic games


[22-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Crow#5457
no one's buying it, and it's not even a direct defense against the lawsuit itself


[22-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Crow#5457
https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/21/apple-contends-epics-ban-was-a-self-inflicted-prelude-to-gaming-the-app-store/

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Apple has filed legal documents opposing Epic’s attempt to have itself reinstated in the iOS App Store, after having been kicked out last week for flouting its rules. Apple characterizes the entire thing as a “carefully orchestrated, multi-faceted campaign” aimed at circumvent...
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[22-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Crow#5457
> Mullenweg tells The Verge he’s not going to fight it anymore, though — he will add brand-new in-app purchases for WordPress.com’s paid tiers, which include domain names, within 30 days. Apple has agreed to allow Automattic to update the app while it waits. (The last update was issued yesterday.)


[22-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Crow#5457
oh rip, they already caved


[22-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Opponent#3498
it even had an update in the original headline.


[22-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Crow#5457
> In other words, Apple won: the richest company in the world just successfully forced an app developer to monetize an app so it could make more money. It’s just the latest example of Apple’s fervent attempts to guard its cash cow resulting in a decision that doesn’t make much sense and doesn’t live up to Apple’s ethos (real or imagined) of putting the customer experience ahead of all else.
> 
> Mullenweg, of course, is only one of those speaking out publicly about the Apple tax and the company’s uneven enforcement of its rules. Yesterday, a group of major news publishers banded together to ask why Amazon, and not them, should get a sweetheart deal that allows the giant e-tailer to pay 15 percent instead of 30 percent for Prime Video. And all of this, of course, is happening in the shadow of Epic Games’ gigantic fight against Apple, one that Apple responded to this very afternoon, complete with a cache of emails from Epic’s own Tim Sweeney. You might want to give these links a look:


[22-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's pretty absurd and evil and 100% in-line with Apple


[22-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
> “Friedman was this genial, personable character who loved to be in the limelight and made a sunny case for the free market and the freedom to choose and so forth. Buchanan was the dark side of this: he thought, ok, fine, they can make a case for the free market, but everybody knows that free markets have externalities and other problems. So he wanted to keep people from believing that government could be the alternative to those problems.”


[22-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
huh, apparently he wasn't so pro-free market


[22-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
he was just pro-slavery with extra steps


[22-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
to protect the free market, of course


[22-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Crow#5457
> Koch, whose mission was to save capitalists like himself from democracy, found the ultimate theoretical tool in the work of the southern economist. The historian writes that Koch preferred Buchanan to Milton Friedman and his “Chicago boys” because, she says, quoting a libertarian insider, they wanted “to make government work more efficiently when the true libertarian should be tearing it out at the root.”


[22-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Crow#5457
literally anarcho-capitalism


[22-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Crow#5457
> With Koch’s money and enthusiasm, Buchanan’s academic school evolved into something much bigger. By the 1990s, Koch realized that Buchanan’s ideas — transmitted through stealth and deliberate deception, as MacLean amply documents — could help take government down through incremental assaults that the media would hardly notice. The tycoon knew that the project was extremely radical, even a “revolution” in governance, but he talked like a conservative to make his plans sound more palatable.
> 
> MacLean details how partnered with Koch, Buchanan’s outpost at George Mason University was able to connect libertarian economists with right-wing political actors and supporters of corporations like Shell Oil, Exxon, Ford, IBM, Chase Manhattan Bank, and General Motors. Together they could push economic ideas to the public through media, promote new curricula for economics education, and court politicians in nearby Washington, D.C.


[22-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Crow#5457
funny how all the conspiracy theorists go on and on about soros when it's actaully koch who's doing all the subverting the will of the people stuff, and all the likely suspects are in on it too


[22-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
> At the 1997 fiftieth anniversary of the Mont Pelerin Society, MacLean recounts that Buchanan and his associate Henry Manne, a founding theorist of libertarian economic approaches to law, focused on such affronts to capitalists as environmentalism and public health and welfare, expressing eagerness to dismantle Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare as well as kill public education because it tended to foster community values. Feminism had to go, too: the scholars considered it a socialist project.


[22-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Crow#5457
jesus christ, this is almost comic book supervillain evil


[22-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Crow#5457
and the obligatory random accusation of a center-left value being socialist


[22-Aug-20 03:22 PM] Crow#5457
> Buchanan’s ideas began to have huge impact, especially in America and in Britain. In his home country, the economist was deeply involved in efforts to cut taxes on the wealthy in 1970s and 1980s and he advised proponents of Reagan Revolution in their quest to unleash markets and posit government as the “problem” rather than the “solution.” The Koch-funded Virginia school coached scholars, lawyers, politicians, and business people to apply stark right-wing perspectives on everything from deficits to taxes to school privatization. In Britain, Buchanan’s work helped to inspire the public sector reforms of Margaret Thatcher and her political progeny.
> 
> To put the success into perspective, MacLean points to the fact that Henry Manne, whom Buchanan was instrumental in hiring, created legal programs for law professors and federal judges which could boast that by 1990 two of every five sitting federal judges had participated. “40 percent of the U.S. federal judiciary,” writes MacLean, “had been treated to a Koch-backed curriculum.”


[22-Aug-20 03:24 PM] Opponent#3498
impressive indeed.


[22-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
> MacLean illustrates that in South America, Buchanan was able to first truly set his ideas in motion by helping a bare-knuckles dictatorship ensure the permanence of much of the radical transformation it inflicted on a country that had been a beacon of social progress. The historian emphasizes that Buchanan’s role in the disastrous Pinochet government of Chile has been underestimated partly because unlike Milton Friedman, who advertised his activities, Buchanan had the shrewdness to keep his involvement quiet. With his guidance, the military junta deployed public choice economics in the creation of a new constitution, which required balanced budgets and thereby prevented the government from spending to meet public needs. Supermajorities would be required for any changes of substance, leaving the public little recourse to challenge programs like the privatization of social security.
> 
> The dictator’s human rights abuses and pillage of the country’s resources did not seem to bother Buchanan, MacLean argues, so long as the wealthy got their way. “Despotism may be the only organizational alternative to the political structure that we observe,” the economist had written in The Limits of Liberty. If you have been wondering about the end result of the Virginia school philosophy, well, the economist helpfully spelled it out.


[22-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
so this isn't some "haha it's just a theory" thing


[22-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Crow#5457
it's actually been put into action, with disastrous consequences


[22-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, I've always wondered, what is the endgame for accumulating infinite wealth. Well, the promise is, if you get successful enough, you can legitimately change the world in your image.


[22-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The endgame is absolute power.


[22-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Audrey#7852
I think America's government is really rotten from the inside


[22-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Opponent, it's about power and control!


[22-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Crow#5457
> She observes, for example, that many liberals have missed the point of strategies like privatization. Efforts to “reform” public education and Social Security are not just about a preference for the private sector over the public sector, she argues. You can wrap your head around those, even if you don’t agree. Instead, MacLean contends, the goal of these strategies is to radically alter power relations, weakening pro-public forces and enhancing the lobbying power and commitment of the corporations that take over public services and resources, thus advancing the plans to dismantle democracy and make way for a return to oligarchy. The majority will be held captive so that the wealthy can finally be free to do as they please, no matter how destructive.
> 
> MacLean argues that despite the rhetoric of Virginia school acolytes, shrinking big government is not really the point. The oligarchs require a government with tremendous new powers so that they can bypass the will of the people. This, as MacLean points out, requires greatly expanding police powers “to control the resultant popular anger.” The spreading use of pre-emption by GOP-controlled state legislatures to suppress local progressive victories such as living wage ordinances is another example of the right’s aggressive use of state power.


[22-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
basically codify the gilded age of US history with the robber barons having direct power instead of indirect power


[22-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Crow#5457
that reminded me of a video on the topic


[22-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6l6Ck4TKxo

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The Age When Capitalism Went Too Far
People think companies have too much power today, but there was an age in the 19th century that things were even worse. So let's talk about that, shall we?

Music:
Money Loving- Niklas Ahlstrom
Money Job- Merlean
The Swing- Merlean
Rock the Casino 6 T60- Merlean
Rock the Casin...
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[22-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Court orders Donald Trump to pay legal fees in Stormy Daniels suit
A California Superior Court judge has ordered President Donald Trump to pay $44,100 to Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, to reimburse her attorneys' fees in the legal battle surrounding her nondisclosure agreement.
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[22-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
it's more than just control though. Control comes much cheaper in most of the world. This is transformative power on a global scale. As close to godhood as you can reasonably get at the current moment.


[22-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
truly impressive, when I think about it this way.


[22-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
> Could these right-wing capitalists allow private companies to fill prisons with helpless citizens—or, more profitable still, right-less undocumented immigrants? They could, and have. Might they engineer a retirement crisis by moving Americans to inadequate 401(k)s? Done. Take away the rights of consumers and workers to bring grievances to court by making them sign forced arbitration agreements? Check. Gut public education to the point where ordinary people have such bleak prospects that they have no energy to fight back? Getting it done.
> 
> Would they even refuse children clean water? Actually, yes.
> 
> MacLean notes that in Flint, Michigan, Americans got a taste of what the emerging oligarchy will look like — it tastes like poisoned water. There, the Koch-funded Mackinac Center pushed for legislation that would allow the governor to take control of communities facing emergency and put unelected managers in charge. In Flint, one such manager switched the city’s water supply to a polluted river, but the Mackinac Center’s lobbyists ensured that the law was fortified by protections against lawsuits that poisoned inhabitants might bring. Tens of thousands of children were exposed to lead, a substance known to cause serious health problems including brain damage.
> 
> Tyler Cowen has provided an economic justification for this kind of brutality, stating that where it is difficult to get clean water, private companies should take over and make people pay for it. “This includes giving them the right to cut off people who don’t—or can’t—pay their bills,” the economist explains.


[22-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
the legacy of the past 40 years


[22-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Audrey#7852
That's criminal. They are criminals.


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Opponent#3498
they're also literally above the law and get to write it, so no, they really are not.


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Audrey#7852
No I can't pay my bills, what difference will it make if I don't?


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Audrey#7852
Why would you cut water while million litres are wasted


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] jlun2#8758
they seem unstoppable


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Crow#5457
> To many this sounds grotesquely inhumane, but it is a way of thinking that has deep roots in America. In Why I, Too, Am Not a Conservative (2005), Buchanan considers the charge of heartlessness made against the kind of classic liberal that he took himself to be. MacLean interprets his discussion to mean that people who “failed to foresee and save money for their future needs” are to be treated, as Buchanan put it, “as subordinate members of the species, akin to…animals who are dependent.’”
> 
> Do you have your education, health care, and retirement personally funded against all possible exigencies? Then that means you.
> 
> Buchanan was not a dystopian novelist. He was a Nobel Laureate whose sinister logic exerts vast influence over America’s trajectory. It is no wonder that Cowen, on his popular blog Marginal Revolution, does not mention Buchanan on a list of underrated influential libertarian thinkers, though elsewhere on the blog, he expresses admiration for several of Buchanan’s contributions and acknowledges that the southern economist “thought more consistently in terms of ‘rules of the games’ than perhaps any other economist.”


[22-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Audrey#7852
Capitalism is a cancer


[22-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Crow#5457
basically, if you can't fund every little tiny thing yourself, you should be enslaved


[22-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Audrey#7852
It is not just America, Also in Europe we have the same problem


[22-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
britain is specifically mentioned in this article


[22-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
it's unironically fine though. Only thing you really need to fund is a quick and painless suicide option for when the resources run out.


[22-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
on a personal level, this isn't a problem. This is a problem more broadly though.


[22-Aug-20 04:44 PM] jlun2#8758
so anyway of change


[22-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
You are already enslaved. It is called money.


[22-Aug-20 04:46 PM] jlun2#8758
> it's more than just control though. Control comes much cheaper in most of the world. This is transformative power on a global scale. As close to godhood as you can reasonably get at the current moment.
> truly impressive, when I think about it this way.
yet only like 3 of them think of expanding out to space rip


[22-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes!


[22-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
well they're still human. Limited in imagination.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Audrey#7852
And because I have less money makes me a lower grade citizen?


[22-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Yes.


[22-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Audrey#7852
I live in the suburbs of Paris in Drancy, here it's always been


[22-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Audrey#7852
surviving how you can


[22-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Paradigm moved from classical "food chain" to "money chain"


[22-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm working in the education on a college, but teens here know they have no perspective


[22-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Crow#5457
> The rules of the game are now clear.
> 
> Research like MacLean’s provides hope that toxic ideas like Buchanan’s may finally begin to face public scrutiny. Yet at this very moment, the Kochs’ State Policy Network and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a group that connects corporate agents to conservative lawmakers to produce legislation, are involved in projects that the Trump-obsessed media hardly notices, like pumping money into state judicial races. Their aim is to stack the legal deck against Americans in ways that MacLean argues may have even bigger effects than Citizens United, the 2010 Supreme Court ruling which unleashed unlimited corporate spending on American politics. The goal is to create a judiciary that will interpret the Constitution in favor of corporations and the wealthy in ways that Buchanan would have heartily approved.
> 
> “The United States is now at one of those historic forks in the road whose outcome will prove as fateful as those of the 1860s, the 1930s, and the 1960s,” writes MacLean. “To value liberty for the wealthy minority above all else and enshrine it in the nation’s governing rules, as Calhoun and Buchanan both called for and the Koch network is achieving, play by play, is to consent to an oligarchy in all but the outer husk of representative form.”


[22-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Audrey#7852
Cold war is over! But no they have to keep fighting/attacking and forcing like it's a war versus capitalism and communism


[22-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
With end of cold war they have lost arms race cash cow


[22-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
I wrote on Twitter a post about why Americans support Trump on Twitter but it's gone


[22-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Literal nazi furries got me down for defending bronies

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[22-Aug-20 05:00 PM] byte[]#2610
a new person


[22-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't understand why they have to even make people suffer nothing is enough for them


[22-Aug-20 05:00 PM] jlun2#8758
@Crow pretty sure no one will stop it even with the research but ok


[22-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Audrey#7852
That's depressing


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[22-Aug-20 05:15 PM] wren#0114
I can't understand this


[22-Aug-20 05:15 PM] wren#0114
too much cider


[22-Aug-20 05:17 PM] >That Guy#3386
Lol


[22-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't understand either


[22-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Audrey#7852
https://tenor.com/view/mlp-what-wtf-my-little-pony-flying-gif-5158587

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[22-Aug-20 05:18 PM] jlun2#8758
when will China catch up so US has real competition


[22-Aug-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/F3K0WGq.jpg

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Just when you think Ben Shapiro can't get any more aware
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[22-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Audrey#7852
When America will stop trying to sabotage there economu


[22-Aug-20 05:20 PM] jlun2#8758
they're not. they're saving it from the libs


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[22-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Audrey#7852
Ben Shapiro 😫

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[22-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Audrey#7852
https://fr.crimethinc.com/2020/08/19/on-facebook-banning-pages-that-support-crimethinccom-and-the-digital-censorship-to-come

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On Facebook Banning Pages Associated with Anarchism
This has nothing to do with stopping violence and everything to do with cracking down on social movements and people organizing in their communities.
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[22-Aug-20 06:03 PM] jlun2#8758
> A decade ago, Facebook representatives proudly touted their role in the Egyptian uprising. Today, their decision to ban publishers who discuss social movement activity shows that they are eager to play a role in ensuring that the only forms of activism that can emerge are the ones that are beneficial to the current authorities.
completely expected for facebook; they did a 180 flip on other issues too
<https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/article/3038298/chinese-netizens-think-mark-zuckerberg-betrayed-china>


[22-Aug-20 06:09 PM] >That Guy#3386
They've been banning a lot of things on the basis of "extremism" lately.
So much for free speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:17 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/us/politics/usps-bill-congress-vote.html

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House Moves Toward Vote to Block Postal Changes
The Democratic bill up for debate would send $25 billion to the Postal Service and reverse changes that have slowed service until after November’s election.
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[22-Aug-20 06:20 PM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy does anyone have a solution yet for free speech vs hate speech vs misinformation, or still as lost as 2016


[22-Aug-20 06:22 PM] byte[]#2610
nope, it's a post truth society now


[22-Aug-20 06:24 PM] wren#0114
the answer is delete social media


[22-Aug-20 06:25 PM] jlun2#8758
are we going to become religious then since we're free from reality


[22-Aug-20 06:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
Hate Speech is just speech. Even the term "hate speech" irritates me. People should be allowed to express hatred, because there's quite a bit of things in this world to be angry about.
So long as people aren't directly calling for violence or harrassing individuals, they should be able to say whatever they want.


[22-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Extremism is rather coming from the right


[22-Aug-20 06:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
When the founding fathers gave us freedom of speech, they meant to include bad/unpopular/hateful things too. If free speech couldn't be perceived as problematic, it wouldn't have needed to be protected in the first place.


[22-Aug-20 06:27 PM] >That Guy#3386
Some people might consider anarchism extremism too.
Both should be allowed.


[22-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Society changes and hateful things have a different meaning


[22-Aug-20 06:28 PM] >That Guy#3386
Society changes, but our rights should be preserved.


[22-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Audrey#7852
What if USA founding fathers witnessed the hoorror of nazism, and war


[22-Aug-20 06:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
They would have said a lot of things.
>"What?! You fools let *women* vote?!?"
But what they wrote stands on its own.


[22-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Audrey#7852
and racism, homophobia, people committing suicide after being bullied? A friend of mine died that way could not handle being bullied for being queer anymore. Beaten up


[22-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm a woman and I'm glad we can vote.


[22-Aug-20 06:29 PM] >That Guy#3386
Bullying is harrassment. Harrassment isn't the same as speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://lawmagazine.richmond.edu/features/article/-/15500/what-did-the-first-amendment-originally-mean.html

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What did the First Amendment originally mean?
The founders would be confused by how we make decisions about the freedom of speech today.
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[22-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Audrey#7852
What I mean is that words can hurt. Before no one imagined you would have Twitter Facebook TikTok, instagram and more on your pocket


[22-Aug-20 06:31 PM] Audrey#7852
and apply this to everyone, it can't work...


[22-Aug-20 06:31 PM] byte[]#2610
the playground expression 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me' could not have turned out to be less true in general

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[22-Aug-20 06:31 PM] >That Guy#3386
If words couldn't hurt, we wouldn't need the right to free speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:32 PM] >That Guy#3386
We have it because words *can* hurt, but we should have free speech regardless.

Imo, freedom of speech is more important than anything else in society.


[22-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Audrey#7852
It's changing as in the second amendment for the USA, you can defend the right to keep arms and have the right to have them but look at how many are using them!


[22-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Laws must evolve because society and everything evolves some in good, communication, some in bad, hate and guns, and racism


[22-Aug-20 06:33 PM] >That Guy#3386
You have the option to change the constitution.


[22-Aug-20 06:33 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's how it's supposed to evolve.


[22-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Audrey#7852
It's called a revolution


[22-Aug-20 06:34 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'm not about to fight a revolution to*take away* my rights.


[22-Aug-20 06:35 PM] >That Guy#3386
Anarchism should be allowed.
Extremism should be allowed.
Speech of any kind should be allowed.
Freedom of speech is invaluable. People should be able to voice their opinions for the good of society (which is subjective).


[22-Aug-20 06:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Fighting a revolution to take away rights is exactly what the entire right seems to be doing right now


[22-Aug-20 06:36 PM] jlun2#8758
> the playground expression 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me' could not have turned out to be less true in general
thats why no one cared when i got bullied; they dont think words hurt :ts_cry:


[22-Aug-20 06:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
>revolution
You imply they're making progress.


[22-Aug-20 06:37 PM] jlun2#8758
i dont see the right not censoring things they hate tho


[22-Aug-20 06:37 PM] >That Guy#3386
I will always support freedom of expression, for all people.


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
I don't care what the right or the left is doing.
I just want free speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] wren#0114
this


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
they are, actually, making progress


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] jlun2#8758
remember to vote


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
if you read the article I linked a bunch from earlier


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

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Meet the Hidden Architect Behind America's Racist Economics
Nobel laureate James Buchanan is the intellectual linchpin of the Koch-funded attack on democratic institutions, argues Duke historian Nancy MacLean
https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/featured/1200px-James_Buchanan_by_Atlas_network.jpg


[22-Aug-20 06:38 PM] jlun2#8758
completely unstopable @Crow


[22-Aug-20 06:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Dude, of course they're making progress. The end goal isn't free speech for everyone, it's free speech for *them.* These are people who yell "freedom ain't free!" without realizing that the price they're paying for the changes being made is freedom itself


[22-Aug-20 06:39 PM] >That Guy#3386
I don't want anybody to censor, no matter if they're motivations are left or right


[22-Aug-20 06:39 PM] Crow#5457
> Buchanan’s ideas began to have huge impact, especially in America and in Britain. In his home country, the economist was deeply involved in efforts to cut taxes on the wealthy in 1970s and 1980s and he advised proponents of Reagan Revolution in their quest to unleash markets and posit government as the “problem” rather than the “solution.” The Koch-funded Virginia school coached scholars, lawyers, politicians, and business people to apply stark right-wing perspectives on everything from deficits to taxes to school privatization. In Britain, Buchanan’s work helped to inspire the public sector reforms of Margaret Thatcher and her political progeny.
> 
> To put the success into perspective, MacLean points to the fact that Henry Manne, whom Buchanan was instrumental in hiring, created legal programs for law professors and federal judges which could boast that by 1990 two of every five sitting federal judges had participated. “40 percent of the U.S. federal judiciary,” writes MacLean, “had been treated to a Koch-backed curriculum.”


[22-Aug-20 06:39 PM] wren#0114
AAA THE TEXT WALLS AGAIN


[22-Aug-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
What does that have to do with free speech?


[22-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Crow#5457
> She observes, for example, that many liberals have missed the point of strategies like privatization. Efforts to “reform” public education and Social Security are not just about a preference for the private sector over the public sector, she argues. You can wrap your head around those, even if you don’t agree. Instead, MacLean contends, the goal of these strategies is to radically alter power relations, weakening pro-public forces and enhancing the lobbying power and commitment of the corporations that take over public services and resources, thus advancing the plans to dismantle democracy and make way for a return to oligarchy. The majority will be held captive so that the wealthy can finally be free to do as they please, no matter how destructive.
> 
> MacLean argues that despite the rhetoric of Virginia school acolytes, shrinking big government is not really the point. The oligarchs require a government with tremendous new powers so that they can bypass the will of the people. This, as MacLean points out, requires greatly expanding police powers “to control the resultant popular anger.” The spreading use of pre-emption by GOP-controlled state legislatures to suppress local progressive victories such as living wage ordinances is another example of the right’s aggressive use of state power.
> 
> Could these right-wing capitalists allow private companies to fill prisons with helpless citizens—or, more profitable still, right-less undocumented immigrants? They could, and have. Might they engineer a retirement crisis by moving Americans to inadequate 401(k)s? Done. Take away the rights of consumers and workers to bring grievances to court by making them sign forced arbitration agreements? Check. Gut public education to the point where ordinary people have such bleak prospects that they have no energy to fight back? Getting it done.


[22-Aug-20 06:40 PM] jlun2#8758
tldr for them pls


[22-Aug-20 06:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
About free speech?


[22-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
you don't see how free speech would be on the chopping block in a dictatorship?


[22-Aug-20 06:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
tl;dr Privatization of government systems means they're not beholden to the constitution anymore and can restrict things however they see fit


[22-Aug-20 06:41 PM] >That Guy#3386
I want free speech for everyone.
Free speech is necessary to prevent dictatorship.

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[22-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Crow#5457
the goal is literally to have a rich elite class controls everything and is not beholden to the people in any way, shape, or form


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
which includes restricting speech


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] jlun2#8758
& they're all white men rip


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's awful.
I'm glad I'm allowed to talk about it.


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] wren#0114
ancap is bad


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] wren#0114
speech suppression is bad


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] >That Guy#3386
^


[22-Aug-20 06:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And this isn't "oh it might happen if they get their way," it's "this has already happened"


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
Well, I'm glad we still have free speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
we have chile's history as an example of what would happen under the system they've been introducing to the US over the past 40 years


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we don't still have free speech


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] >That Guy#3386
Relatively free speech.


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Crow#5457
asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk


[22-Aug-20 06:43 PM] jlun2#8758
@>That Guy then you post something bad &get kicked out by major platforms & payment processors


[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
> MacLean illustrates that in South America, Buchanan was able to first truly set his ideas in motion by helping a bare-knuckles dictatorship ensure the permanence of much of the radical transformation it inflicted on a country that had been a beacon of social progress. The historian emphasizes that Buchanan’s role in the disastrous Pinochet government of Chile has been underestimated partly because unlike Milton Friedman, who advertised his activities, Buchanan had the shrewdness to keep his involvement quiet. With his guidance, the military junta deployed public choice economics in the creation of a new constitution, which required balanced budgets and thereby prevented the government from spending to meet public needs. Supermajorities would be required for any changes of substance, leaving the public little recourse to challenge programs like the privatization of social security.
> 
> The dictator’s human rights abuses and pillage of the country’s resources did not seem to bother Buchanan, MacLean argues, so long as the wealthy got their way. “Despotism may be the only organizational alternative to the political structure that we observe,” the economist had written in The Limits of Liberty. If you have been wondering about the end result of the Virginia school philosophy, well, the economist helpfully spelled it out.


[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can get fired from your job over a twitter post you made 3 years ago, you can have the FBI show up at your door for joining a facebook group

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[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
we also have direct evidence of what happens under these policies


[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] wren#0114
I read that article 4 times by now, crow


[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] >That Guy#3386
Our speech isn't free enough.
It should be more free, imo.


[22-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Crow#5457
someone else hasn't


[22-Aug-20 06:45 PM] wren#0114
it's a travesty that I have to be worried about saying the word "bomb" during a phone call regardless of context


[22-Aug-20 06:45 PM] >That Guy#3386
That's why it's necessary to protect free speech. People are trying to whittle away at it and take away our rights left and right.


[22-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Crow#5457
tbh it sounds like you're okay with any form of government as long as you're allowed to talk about any topic


[22-Aug-20 06:45 PM] wren#0114
?


[22-Aug-20 06:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
I didn't say that


[22-Aug-20 06:46 PM] wren#0114
no one wants oligarcic corp control of gov


[22-Aug-20 06:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
I just said I wanted free speech.
The form of government I want is irrelevant, except that I desire a government that first and firei exists to protect and preserve my rights.


[22-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Crow#5457
> That's awful.
> I'm glad I'm allowed to talk about it.
this implies as long as we're allowed to talk about it, it's okay


[22-Aug-20 06:47 PM] >That Guy#3386
I didn't say that.


[22-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Crow#5457
the way you worded it makes it sound like that


[22-Aug-20 06:47 PM] wren#0114
>"that's aweful" means its ok


[22-Aug-20 06:48 PM] >That Guy#3386
I said I wanted free speech, not that I'm okay with corporations stripping away my rights.
This conversation began with Facebook trying to censor anarchist groups, which I think is awful.


[22-Aug-20 06:48 PM] >That Guy#3386
Nobody should be censored.


[22-Aug-20 06:52 PM] >That Guy#3386
Lack of free speech is the road to tyranny. Once people decide that X opinions are illegal, freedom is lost.
I want freedom of speech for everyone, including people I abhor/disagree with. Some people want *more* censorship or less free speech, but even they should be allowed to voice their shitty opinions.


[22-Aug-20 06:56 PM] wren#0114
it boggles my mind that that's a provocative statement


[22-Aug-20 06:57 PM] wren#0114
in these years


[22-Aug-20 06:57 PM] wren#0114
obama spoke of this


[22-Aug-20 06:57 PM] >That Guy#3386
What do *all* tyrannical regimes and dictatorships in history have in common? They all restricted people's ability to express themselves, and they dubbed certain opinions illegal.

Freedom of speech is necessary for a free society.


[22-Aug-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-california-overwhelme-food-rots-and-animals-dies-in-cuts-chaos-2020-8

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Rats reported feeding on packages of rotted fruit and meat as postm...
The reports come after the recently-appointed Postmaster General Louis DeJoy made a series of sweeping changes to the postal service.
https://i.insider.com/5f411ffd89aff80028ab7592?width=1200&format=jpeg


[22-Aug-20 07:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
🤔


[22-Aug-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
mail is so backed up to restrict mail in voting, that it's literally rotting shipped foods, and killing shipped livestock


[22-Aug-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-dept-fighting-deny-us-citizenship-gay-couples/story?id=72493795

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State Dept. fighting to deny US citizenship to gay couple's child
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/state-dept-gty-rc-200820_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[22-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Aw yes


[22-Aug-20 08:26 PM] >That Guy#3386
`Their daughter Kessem was born in Canada via a surrogate, so the State Department has argued in federal court that she is "born out of wedlock" and not entitled to birthright citizenship.`
`Specifically, the department's policy on "assisted reproductive technology" says, "A child born abroad to a surrogate, whose genetic parents are a U.S. citizen father and anonymous egg donor, is considered for citizenship purposes to be a person born out of wedlock."`


[22-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
well, the problem is the policy, not the ruling then.


[22-Aug-20 08:31 PM] jlun2#8758
> born out of wedlock
that sounds boomer as fuck concern


[22-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
also, yeah, what's the actual legal definition of 'born out of wedlock'? And why does it matter for citizenship?

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[22-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Because they’re gay


[22-Aug-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
born of married (or unmarried) parents.


[22-Aug-20 08:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
legal: born when one's parents are not married.


[22-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
...so a child born of unmarried parents does _not_ get citizenship?


[22-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
that's... Pretty fucked up, even by US standards.


[22-Aug-20 08:44 PM] jlun2#8758
again, a boomer concern (the wedlock thing). im too poor to marry (i also hate ppl irl)
this is the shit they vote for (who cares about stagnant wages? what about the marriages?)


[22-Aug-20 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not really a boomer concern though, this affect many people of our age as well. Marriage is an antiquated concept, but if it's basicly mandatory if you want to have children, that's _really_ fucked up


[22-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Having children is a quite concern for modern generation.


[22-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
and btw I'm suprised it only comes up in a relatively specific case of a gay couple going with surrogate abroad.


[22-Aug-20 08:47 PM] jlun2#8758
because christains


[22-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And having children is resource intensive process for nothing.


[22-Aug-20 08:52 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty much
more educated than parents for min wage :twiright:


[22-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Opponent#3498
@ jlun2 that's not the thing though, this would imply that either the rule is typically waived (which both hints at preferential treatment and redudnancy of said rule) or that people _have_ to marry to have children and do so without complaint (extremely weird in modern times of permanent outrage)


[22-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
OR people don't actually care about citizenship at all and this is why they push for vote for everyone (among other things), as a means to abolish the system they dislike


[22-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
(in which case, fucking priorities pls...)


[22-Aug-20 09:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> that sounds boomer as fuck concern
@jlun2  not even boomer, just straight up feudal nobility concern


[22-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.redd.it/azjogdtu6ie51.jpg

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[22-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
god fucking damn lmao


[22-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I can't find the original Tweet, probably faked.


[22-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
If real, it was likely his attempted parody of women who try to argue "Liking skinny women makes you a pedophile" or something


[22-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I would assume it was deleted if real. Generally he doesn't talk about women very much because it makes him a super easy target.


[22-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He used to make comics about being an incel etc, but stopped that.


[22-Aug-20 09:47 PM] wren#0114
how does she dump for a twink


[22-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
with utmost confidence.


[22-Aug-20 09:47 PM] wren#0114
bc twink implies not into "her"


[22-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
people almost never use it in the original meaning now


[22-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Opponent#3498
now it's just 'skinny boy'


[22-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.is/g9TYh

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StoneToss (@stone_toss) | Twitter
archived 1 May 2019 02:45:43 UTC
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[22-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://archive.is/4RAnE

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stonetoss on Twitter: "FACT: The "skinny boi" aesthetic appeals to ...
archived 7 May 2019 16:01:36 UTC
https://archive.is/4RAnE/8a38b35bb6124084bebd76994a1426dbb9a018c3/scr.png


[22-Aug-20 09:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>That post actually promoting Wormwood


[22-Aug-20 09:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Why does he promote all of these people that do his schtick way worse than he does?


[22-Aug-20 10:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it legitimizes


[22-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has talent in his chosen craft


[22-Aug-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
don't try to look at it from a factual or logical standpoint, look at it from the standpoint of playing a game


[22-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Screaming "WOMEN AND MINORITIES BAD" like his clones do isn't helping his game


[22-Aug-20 10:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he's not doing this because he wants his art seen or even necessarily to make people agree with him


[22-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You have to be subtle about it, that's his genius.


[22-Aug-20 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's doing it to *win* and there are no rules in that


[22-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


[22-Aug-20 10:02 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nothing. else. matters.


[22-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That's why occasionally he makes a non-politically related comic. To get people in, get them questioning, looking at his other stuff


[22-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's about getting people to his ideology more than anything


[22-Aug-20 10:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah. That isn't the endgame. The endgame is making everyone else *not* in his ideology infight with each other


[22-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
And being able to say "Lol they're obsessed with me"


[22-Aug-20 10:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it doesn't matter if he doesn't change a single opinion. The goal is to activate everyone else's almonds and suffer zero consequences


[22-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Make bait that can be posted anonymously


[22-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
People still think he's a proper animator or something, right?


[22-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has to be.


[22-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He has too much talent to just be doing this, it would be dumb.


[22-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Plus, if he works in animation he will constantly be around people that can be new material for him.


[22-Aug-20 10:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dunno; one of the producers at work one day drew up some sketches to pitch an idea of his, and everyone was like "wtf dude, this is better than half our concept artists"


[22-Aug-20 10:16 PM] jlun2#8758
:ponythinking:


[22-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd be surprised at how little artistic skill you need for a lot of animation work, I've found


[22-Aug-20 10:17 PM] jlun2#8758
how do i get hired @Itsthinking


[22-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
That artist that worked on Ben 10 who said her fear was always a kid asking for an on-model character from the show


[22-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Nepotism and/or art schools that feed directly into big studios


[22-Aug-20 10:18 PM] jlun2#8758
:ts_cry:


[22-Aug-20 10:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/miles-taylor-trump-lou-dobbs-fox-marching-orders-homeland-security-015601368.html

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Trump Told Homeland Security To Take Its Orders From Lou Dobbs, For...
"What Lou says is what I want to do," Trump said of the Fox Business host, according to former DHS chief of staff Miles Taylor.
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[22-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[22-Aug-20 11:02 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/haleymeneses/status/1296685574561005568?s=21

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@shycsmith i didn’t know it could get worse but look at his ring... these people are obsessed with him omg
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[22-Aug-20 11:02 PM] illumnious#7938
Why


[22-Aug-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the trump face ring looks more like something you'd get in a cereal box or the back of a comic book


[22-Aug-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Though i;m not sure why anyone would want that as a prize in their cereal


[22-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.amazon.com/B-L-Products-Donald-Trump/dp/B07PV6ZGRC


[22-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Perfect gift for a friend or relative that serves in the military, or is patriotic.


[22-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[22-Aug-20 11:22 PM] wren#0114
hot


[22-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It really does look like cheap chrome painting on shitty plastic


[22-Aug-20 11:22 PM] wren#0114
inb4 made in china with lead paint


[22-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
it's associated with Trump, so, all of the above.


[22-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
lead paint on shitty plastic, made in China.


[22-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's an even worse one
https://www.amazon.com/Jude-Jewelers-Stainless-President-Cocktail/dp/B0813FQLX4


[22-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[22-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
> Wedding Engagement Biker Graduation Valentines Birthday Occasions


[22-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
> Christmas Father's Day Grandpa Brother School Husband Gift


[22-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like typical horrendous chinese to english translation you see on manuals for cheap electronics.


[22-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, it's almost certainly all from Shenzhen


[22-Aug-20 11:40 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The one you posted is my sleep paralysis demon now, thanks


[22-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like something from a mid 90s CD ROM game


[22-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just full screen 320x240 super compressed face staring at you with dead eyes


[22-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like it would be in a Parroty Interactive game


[22-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You know, the people who made "Pyst" and "Star Warped"


[22-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
They're super fucking painful to watch.


[23-Aug-20 12:06 AM] illumnious#7938
> https://www.amazon.com/B-L-Products-Donald-Trump/dp/B07PV6ZGRC
@Teaspoon  bruh


[23-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A page of the reply Apple sent to Epic when Epic asked if Apple would host competing stores/payment processing

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[23-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apple can suck a shart out of my ass tbh


[23-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Apple didn't do anything wrong here.


[23-Aug-20 12:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I want to frame Teaspoon's post and hang it on my wall


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Apple charge 30% of any in-app transaction


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's absurd


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
30% for buying an app, sure


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But in-app, fuck that


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
> I want to frame Teaspoon's post and hang it on my wall
@byte[]  same


[23-Aug-20 12:14 AM] illumnious#7938
And this is when jailbreak is coming


[23-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And if your app is an any way connected to a service with a commercial aspect, then that has to exist in the app as well so Apple can get its 30%


[23-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it's one of those cases where there's no 'good' side. Just enjoy the show.


[23-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Epic gets a lot of shit from gamers, and I sort of get why, though it's pretty absurd


[23-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But they're a massive boon to the industry itself


[23-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Their biggest issue is the chunk of investment tencent has in them


[23-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's a bad stink, even if they're a technical minority with no say in operations


[23-Aug-20 12:20 AM] byte[]#2610
and you're not allowed to raise your prices for IAPs to account for apple's 30% cut


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
so it only ever makes sense for selling intangibles... otherwise there's no point having your app on the store


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No one is forcing you to use the App Store


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah, actually, they are, there's no other way to install your own code on an iOS device


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If you have an iphone, you are


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] byte[]#2610
if you want to develop your own app, you have to pay apple for the privilege of doing that, and they can revoke your developer keys any time they want


[23-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
As Apple pointed out, Epic does very similar shit with their own platforms


[23-Aug-20 12:22 AM] byte[]#2610
that doesn't mean what apple is doing isn't fucking over consumers


[23-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They don't, though


[23-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
people who use iOS devices deserve all the suffering they and their wallets endure tbh.


[23-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Games sold on EGS don't need to have their in-app purchases go through EGS unless they want to


[23-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Opponent#3498
no sympathy from me there.


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Neither do games using the Unreal Engine


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I remember when Epic got pissy that Valve dared to not let Epic use them for free advertising


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also Epic takes advantage of smaller devs by making them sign longer exclusivity agreements


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"takes advantage"


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No


[23-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They give them millions


[23-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And the longest exclusivity is a year


[23-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In exchange for cash


[23-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
and usually that makes the devs go floss on their former crowdfunders :twismug:


[23-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's a much much better deal than Sony or MS give for _platform_ exclusivity


[23-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The Ooblets devs and what they did is disgusting.


[23-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's on them, not Epic


[23-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Oh of course.


[23-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Semi-related


[23-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Valve now made it so games sold on Steam can't have any mention of other stores in-game


[23-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So GTA can't mention the Rockstar store in the game


[23-Aug-20 12:27 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm glad I have never had any stake in any "gamer" related drama


[23-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Or some indie game can't have a MotD pointing out there's a new song or DLC they can grab off GoG or their own site


[23-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Seems fair to me


[23-Aug-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
In the game itself?


[23-Aug-20 12:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's fucked up


[23-Aug-20 12:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why should they allow advertising for their competitors in any form?


[23-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Opponent#3498
can they publish it in 'News' in Steam store? Or have a link on their off-platform site? If either of this is 'yes', it's a non-issue.


[23-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're getting their 33% from the sale of the game


[23-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Exerting that much control over what's inside it is fucked up


[23-Aug-20 12:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, they can't


[23-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No game can have any "promotion" of competing services in the steam forums, news updates, patch notes, or the game itself


[23-Aug-20 12:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Note that until recently Discord sold games and was a competing service


[23-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So no game would be able to link to a discord server in any way


[23-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If I'm Walmart, why should I carry products that talk about what's for sale at Target?


[23-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So if a 120 page magazine has an ad for Sears on one of its pages, you just ban the magazine?


[23-Aug-20 12:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends, maybe.


[23-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If microwave's instruction manual has a "link" to the manufacturer's website where you can buy direct, you ban them?


[23-Aug-20 12:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Depends.


[23-Aug-20 12:34 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I just don't like this piggybacking stuff, it's unfair.


[23-Aug-20 12:35 AM] byte[]#2610
you've agreed with a lot of "unfair" shit just about now :twismug:


[23-Aug-20 12:37 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The instruction manual comparison isn't apt. It's more like if a microwave manufacturer had an approved section in a store to sell something, and every person that came up interested in one was told "Go online, it's cheaper there"


[23-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Itsthinking#8251
By representatives of the microwave company


[23-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But it isn't


[23-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Steam bans any mention of competing services in the game itself


[23-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So you'd already have bought the microwave


[23-Aug-20 12:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Be flipping through the manual


[23-Aug-20 12:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And see that their website sells a microwave dome thing off their site


[23-Aug-20 12:43 AM] Opponent#3498
btw I know at least one instance where that's provably not true. Killing Floor 2 recently launched itself on Epic in addition to Steam and had several patch notes mentioning it. Obviously that wasn't a concern.


[23-Aug-20 12:45 AM] byte[]#2610
linked earlier but related https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-pressures-wordpress-add-in-app-purchases-30-percent-fee-2020-8

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[23-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Opponent, the new policy was published 2 days ago


[23-Aug-20 12:46 AM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/charlesv/status/1297040305900810240?s=20

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when you left simcity running while you were in the bathroom
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[23-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Will take a bit for people to start reacting to it (and valve to enforce it)


[23-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This is only _slightly_ worse than most years, though


[23-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So I'm sure there's something special coming soon


[23-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How about a new Valve game that isn't based around cards


[23-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Alyx just came out


[23-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon hmm, fair enough.


[23-Aug-20 12:59 AM] Crow#5457
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[23-Aug-20 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What the fuck


[23-Aug-20 01:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why is it "confidential" if you're sending it to quite literally everyone?


[23-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people crave feeling special to the point they're ready to ignore such things


[23-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
I like how it implies trump is going to lose with that "I promise you that I won't go down without a fight" line


[23-Aug-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
going down with a fight is still going down


[23-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Treascair#7785
and losing in a fight tends to mean resorting to dirty tactics... then again, given my state of Washington, and Michigan as well, are basically telling him "We'll fucking kick your ass" to his little 'LEO's who agree with me should show up armed to polling places' bit...


[23-Aug-20 01:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It would probably be a good idea for anyone freed up by voting by mail to grab a camera or two and from the outside, watch the poll watchers


[23-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Treascair#7785
... wow, speaking of voting by mail...


[23-Aug-20 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, if you can, find out who the constable will be at the polling location. In all likelihood they won't be any better than the feds if they show up, and at best they're usually taken from the stock of "old retired cops who now work security," but


[23-Aug-20 01:14 AM] Treascair#7785
https://www.axios.com/house-vote-mail-post-office-dejoy-trump-election-210d20cb-52ea-4af1-b0b0-04853b7b80e5.html

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House passes bill to give U.S. Postal Service $25 billion and rever...
26 Republicans supported the bill, after the White House threatened to veto.
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[23-Aug-20 01:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well that's definitely good news (as far as can be expected) but never mind Trump's desk...I'm afraid this won't make it across McConnell's


[23-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Opponent#3498
```Why is it "confidential" if you're sending it to quite literally everyone?```
it's typical here to see it on various scams, typically aimed at old folks. Although it would be URGENT and IMPORTANT instead.


[23-Aug-20 01:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also have little faith that the wrecked mail sorting machines will be restored at all, let alone in time for the election


[23-Aug-20 01:19 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
it's the principle of the thing


[23-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Any backlash is all on the Senate at this point, assuming the population isn't stupid and is aware of what's happening(which it regularly is)


[23-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love the ones that mention some recent news story, and are like "I'm the UN representative for Kentuckystan and the recent legislation passed in DC has made it impossible for my country to take our money out of american banks. After a thorough vetting process we've selected you as an escrow to help transfer 25bil USD back to our national bank, and are willing to to pay 5mil USD for your services"


[23-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
My parents know that stuff is fake but _still_ ask me about "we need your bank password" or "we couldn't deliver a package"


[23-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Yesterday FedEx attempted to deliver a package to your address, but you were not available. Would you please confirm you address now, as well as you SSN to confirm your identity? Thank you for trusting FedEx with your mail."


[23-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
What's the point of the House of Represenatives if everything they approve gets declined by the senate or vetoed by the president?  Wouldn't make more sense to just have one, the house or the senate?  :ponythinking:


[23-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Compromise between big and small states


[23-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
People on twitter also make a big deal when the house approves things but they always end up getting declined by the trump administration so why bother?


[23-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
just have the house approve small things and senate approve big things.  the senate has all the power


[23-Aug-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a checks and balances thing


[23-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love going through my spam folder


[23-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Always find gems like these

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[23-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
people seriously need to stop cheering everytime the house approves something.  because it means nothing


[23-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
trump will just veto everything the house approves


[23-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump doesn't need to veto it


[23-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That's what he has Mitch for


[23-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
or the senate will vote against it so why two votes?


[23-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Hearth Flare#9202
just have the senate vote on it and skip the house. lol


[23-Aug-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like Belarus is now pretending they're about to be invaded by NATO in order to drum up some cheap nationalism


[23-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the one of the few remaining ways out. After all, this helped Ukraine when we _did_ get invaded and prevented an _actual_ civil war, so the logic is sound.


[23-Aug-20 02:01 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Trump can’t veto money mysteriously appearing


[23-Aug-20 02:26 AM] byte[]#2610
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[23-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Opponent#3498
accurate.


[23-Aug-20 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
doesn't almost everyone?


[23-Aug-20 02:55 AM] Nebbie#8545
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/politics/tennessee-felony-camping-law-right-to-vote/index.html

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New Tennessee law penalizes protesters who camp on state property w...
Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee signed legislation on Thursday that will increase penalties for individuals caught camping on state property.
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[23-Aug-20 02:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Welp I guess I'm glad I was at least born early enough to see the US while it still existed


[23-Aug-20 02:58 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is he *really* using the "protect and serve" motto to justify disenfranchising people who protest that the police aren't protecting and serving them?


[23-Aug-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because this will totally stop the protestors


[23-Aug-20 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'd love to see @>That Guy try and argue that we still have rights, particularly free speech rights, in response to this article


[23-Aug-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more abuse will totally stop the anti abuse protests!


[23-Aug-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Though seriously, this feels like soemthing that will end up before the supreme court


[23-Aug-20 03:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, see, that's when it stops being a protest and starts being a riot. The part that seems to slip the minds of people who try to use that as an excuse to delegitimize the protests is that *riots can be pretty justified too*


[23-Aug-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, when you take away the peaceful option, you don;t leave much choice other than rioting


[23-Aug-20 03:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[23-Aug-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Especially in cases where police declare a riot simply because people are fighting back against the police kettling them


[23-Aug-20 03:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's "he's resisting arrest" on a massive scale


[23-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Gallows

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[23-Aug-20 03:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think first you'd need a wikihow article on how to start a revolution and get your hands on all the untouchably rich and powerful people, or else you're just Haman


[23-Aug-20 03:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and end up getting hanged on the gallows you built


[23-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I think we need a wikihow article on how to build a proper riot shield


[23-Aug-20 03:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but don't you know? Showing up covered in armor is (and has been) enough for police to declare that you're rioting


[23-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Can’t be declared rioting if I’m acting as a riot cop to the riot cops


[23-Aug-20 03:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Pull up at the central square wearing this

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[23-Aug-20 03:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yes, you absolutely can https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/night-80-of-portland-protests-begin-with-march-from-laurelhurst-park/283-5b90dbf7-81d4-4112-9c09-34be1cde30f1

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Portland protest night 80: Police declare midnight riot in Laurelhurst
A mostly peaceful protest outside a sheriff's office in Portland's Laurelhurst was declared a riot at midnight. Things only escalated from there.
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[23-Aug-20 03:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
holding up shields with BLM symbols on them and yelling = riot. Obviously.


[23-Aug-20 03:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Aug-20 03:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1296983180906565633

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Steve Bannon Indicted For Border Wall Fundraiser Fraud https://t.co/4JI4fy2MJr #WhatDoYouThink?
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[23-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
actually true :twismug:


[23-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Opponent#3498
I have no issue whatsoever with people grifting the trumpy folks.


[23-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
First trump set up a wall, then he stuffed more funding into the military.... man he’s ready isn’t he.


[23-Aug-20 03:29 AM] Opponent#3498
too bad military hates him, at least significant parts of it


[23-Aug-20 03:32 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This one nearly killed me
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[23-Aug-20 03:35 AM] Opponent#3498
that would be one way to respond to complaints, sure.


[23-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Opponent#3498
it would also satisfy the word of the complaints. People want equality? Sure, no problem.


[23-Aug-20 03:47 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/22/21397131/tiktok-lawsuit-president-trump-china-ban-executive-order

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TikTok confirms it will sue the Trump administration
The company says the president’s executive order deprived it of due process
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[23-Aug-20 03:53 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
If this lawsuit is successful, it would mean a big doom for the Trump administration


[23-Aug-20 03:57 AM] byte[]#2610
Not rly


[23-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Phelan#7647
Not at all.


[23-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Phelan#7647
I doubt it'd go anywhere cause tiktok was banned under national security concerns and the executive has quite broad powers when it comes to that.


[23-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
His ban doesn't go far enough.


[23-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Phelan#7647
I don't disagree.


[23-Aug-20 04:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/i-have-right-make-sure-my-home-secure-chicago-mayor-lightfoot-defends-ban-protesters-her

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"I Have A Right To Make Sure That My Home Is Secure": Chicago Mayor...
"I think that residents of this city, understanding the nature of the threats that we are receiving on a daily basis, on a daily basis, understand I have a right to make sure that my home is secure."
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[23-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
"even when so frequently it devolved into violent rioting and looting of innocent bystanders"


[23-Aug-20 04:31 AM] Crow#5457
well THIS article certainly isn't biased as fuck


[23-Aug-20 04:31 AM] byte[]#2610
it's zerohedge


[23-Aug-20 04:42 AM] Treascair#7785
I feel like I need to invoke Korath the Pursuer from Guardians of the Galaxy here... "Who?"


[23-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
lmao https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/

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[23-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Crow#5457
strong conspiracy level, mild pseudoscience level


[23-Aug-20 04:53 AM] Crow#5457
> Country: Bulgaria

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[23-Aug-20 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Okay so I got a question...how do you even *find* sources like this to cite? Like, what must your google search recommendations look like for this to come up


[23-Aug-20 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because clearly once you're in the bubble, you're locked in it pretty good, but...how


[23-Aug-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is it all just from some alt-right news subreddit or facebook group?


[23-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
'why Trump is the last, best hope of humanity, decency and reason' would probably be a good start :twismug:


[23-Aug-20 05:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean yeah if you only look for things that prove your point, but I don't even have to check MBFC to know that a source called something like "American People Daily" is gonna be heavily right-biased and not very factual


[23-Aug-20 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just looking at the "recently added" column for an example


[23-Aug-20 05:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's like...it's like the joke that housing developments are all named after the natural thing they tore out to put it in


[23-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ketamine-injected-arrests-draws-scrutiny-72542386

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Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny
A drug called ketamine that's injected as a sedative during arrests has drawn new scrutiny since a young Black man named Elijah McClain died in suburban Denver
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[23-Aug-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
lol are you fucking me right now


[23-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532

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[23-Aug-20 05:39 AM] byte[]#2610
US is so so fucked


[23-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Phelan#7647
Eh, even if Zerohedge is a bad source, she did ban protests around her house with that justification.


[23-Aug-20 05:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
KET IS FOR HORSES


[23-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Man that shit is meant to sedate cats and dogs and shit


[23-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Phelan#7647
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-chicago-police-lightfoot-home-protests-20200820-s563zjj4uzc2rcbprrruzalwaq-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Citing threats, Mayor Lori Lightfoot defends ban on protesters on h...
Mayor Lori Lightfoot defended the Chicago Police Department’s ban on protesters being able to demonstrate on the block where she lives, telling reporters Thursday that she and her family at times require heightened security because of threats she receives daily.
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[23-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Or as an illicit party drug, wtf


[23-Aug-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
imagine you do that, you mass it correctly, and it has a bad interaction with a depressant that kills the suspect


[23-Aug-20 05:43 AM] byte[]#2610
there is no place for police to be sedating _anyone_ without prior bloodwork


[23-Aug-20 05:47 AM] byte[]#2610
if it weren't for qualified immunity, that would make the police officers
criminally liable for (at least) manslaughter
civilly liable under eggshell rule


[23-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728

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[23-Aug-20 06:05 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
Is he just kidding, or just stupid for real?


[23-Aug-20 06:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m going with the latter


[23-Aug-20 06:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'm pretty certain our president has no idea what a real sense of humor is


[23-Aug-20 06:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The only time he's ever claimed to be joking was to get out of backlash for something he said seriously, and the only times he's ever intentionally tried to make a joke he's just insulted people mercilessly


[23-Aug-20 06:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
he also can't take a joke of any sort


[23-Aug-20 06:11 AM] Crow#5457
yeah, trump doesn't take jokes at all


[23-Aug-20 06:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most of his actual "jokes" are usually pointing out a flaw in someone and then mocking said flaw relentlessly


[23-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Crow#5457
if they're even slightly negative of him, or he even just construes it as negative, he takes it as a personal attack and responds accordingly


[23-Aug-20 06:12 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
If this year is the best year American have ever had, I can't imagine how American's lives was like in those 200+ years


[23-Aug-20 06:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
He's skipped the white house correspondents dinner (traditionally a comedy roast of the president) every year it's been held in his presidency and in 2019 he actually ordered officials not to attend


[23-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> the best year American have ever had


[23-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
According to the stock market, yes


[23-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Problem is the stock market only tracks valuation of a handful of the top companies


[23-Aug-20 06:15 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The only joke Trump has made successfully is saying Chinese don't want him to be reelected


[23-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Meaning the entire world below them could be on fire, but they're doing well... because people believe they're doing well


[23-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And if people believe they're doing well then they buy stock which effectively means they are doing well so people buy more stock


[23-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
the stock market is fully taken over by AI


[23-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
the stocks would be in the dumps if it were still run by humans


[23-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Crow#5457
but the AI has been trained to keep stocks going up no matter what


[23-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Crow#5457
so they found a way to do so


[23-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Makes it far worse


[23-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Soon as one of these big companies makes it clear they're just full of hot air, pop


[23-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cascade effect of failed investments, defaults, and an overall loss of trust in the system leading to panic selling


[23-Aug-20 06:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
_again_


[23-Aug-20 06:20 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
The stock market can be run by AI, does that mean we won't need capitalists anymore in the future?


[23-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We don't need them _now_ :^)


[23-Aug-20 06:22 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
idk... i think the AIs are not powerful enough so far


[23-Aug-20 06:26 AM] AlchemistLiang#0728
It's hard for them to understand human languages, especially politicians'


[23-Aug-20 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-trading-stock-market-tech

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[23-Aug-20 06:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s more about numbers than words


[23-Aug-20 06:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the AI doesn;t analyze what people are saying so much as whether they;re buying or selling their stocks


[23-Aug-20 06:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if a lot of people are selling their stocks off fast enough in a short amount of time the AI counts it as a drop in stock value, or at least i think that's how that works


[23-Aug-20 07:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, one time the AI decided that everything was in fact terrible and not only did the market plummet before any human was able to intervene, to this day they're not really sure what triggered it


[23-Aug-20 07:04 AM] byte[]#2610
it was right though


[23-Aug-20 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that it was. For a moment, the orkish veil of reality warping was pierced by the cogitators


[23-Aug-20 07:39 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
It was the liberals trying to sabotage America.

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[23-Aug-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/22/washington-postal-workers-defy-usps-orders-and-reinstall-mail-sorting-machines/

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Washington Postal Workers Defy USPS Orders And Reinstall Mail Sorti...
40 percent of the sorting machines had been disconnected by Tuesday, when the Postal Service announced it would pause controversial changes until after the November election.
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[23-Aug-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
oh shit


[23-Aug-20 09:22 AM] Crow#5457
USPS workers are defying the fascistic orders to dismantle sorting machines


[23-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Opponent#3498
traitors, each and every one of them. The 🔥 chamber is the only solution.


[23-Aug-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513259-trump-to-announce-breakthrough-coronavirus-therapeutic-white-house

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Trump to announce 'breakthrough' coronavirus therapeutic, White Hou...
President Trump will announce a “major therapeutic breakthrough” on the novel coronavirus at a news conference Sunday evening, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tweeted.
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[23-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
he bought stocks in an STD treatment manufacturer or something? :wheeze:


[23-Aug-20 02:53 PM] ononim#8141
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53877953
https://www.france24.com/en/20200823-lukashenko-warns-of-nato-troops-near-borders-as-belarus-opposition-calls-for-minsk-rally
https://www.euronews.com/2020/08/22/belarus-strongman-lukashenko-orders-army-to-defend-borders-ahead-of-protests

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Nato rejects Belarusian talk of border threat
The Belarusian president places the army on alert as he talks of an external military build-up.
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Lukashenko warns of border threats as Belarus opposition calls for ...
Belarus's authoritarian leader Alexander Lukashenko on Saturday ordered his defence minister to take "stringent measures" to defend the country's territorial integrity after mass protests erupted aga…
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Belarus: Strongman Lukashenko orders army to defend borders
"It involves taking the most stringent measures to protect the territorial integrity of our country," Lukashenko said.
https://static.euronews.com/articles/stories/04/90/30/86/1000x563_cmsv2_5af941f7-73c4-5eee-828d-9fe4a5643711-4903086.jpg


[23-Aug-20 02:53 PM] ononim#8141
lel he seems either trying to scare his voting block into believing they're about to be invaded or actually believes that


[23-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Teaspoon#9532
More likely the former


[23-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It really did seem he feared an invasion of _some_ sort.


[23-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
From the other front if he allows some EU-loving liberal close to power =p


[23-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Opponent#3498
and Russia would be unlikely because they owe them approximately _all the money_.


[23-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Opponent#3498
although, yes, unlikely doens't mean impossible.


[23-Aug-20 04:54 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/rawstory/status/1297518084761288705?s=21

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‘Not COVID sanitized’: Trump attempts to suppress election drop boxes after realizing USPS doesn’t control them

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[23-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[23-Aug-20 05:03 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.en24news.com/2020/08/in-minsk-found-hanged-one-of-the-demonstrators-world-news-unian.html

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in Minsk found hanged one of the demonstrators – World News – UNIAN
this material is available in RussianThis is the fourth demonstrator whose death is known for sure.Kryvtsov was considered missing / photo Nasha NivaA demonstrator who went missing during rallies o…
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[23-Aug-20 05:04 PM] byte[]#2610
dunno how reliable this source is


[23-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh if Belarus is invaded as long as the invader isn’t worse the Lukashenko then effectively it’s better.


[23-Aug-20 05:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/s8rwecrivqi51.jpg

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[23-Aug-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513278-acting-dhs-chief-says-he-has-no-authority-to-send-agents-to-polling

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Acting DHS chief says he has no authority to send agents to polling...
Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said Sunday that DHS has no authority to send federal agents to oversee polling locations in November, despite President Trump's vow to have a federal law enforcement presence at
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[23-Aug-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
hmmm


[23-Aug-20 05:13 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/z9x1ewn3oqi51.jpg

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[23-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Can't tell if that's a shitpost or if Job himself returned to the realm of the living


[23-Aug-20 05:15 PM] RYDE#8862
So these people are worshipping Donald Trump?

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[23-Aug-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, i remember the section in the bible about jesus stealing money from charity to buy a portrait of himself


[23-Aug-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and who could forget Jesus' hostile narcissism


[23-Aug-20 05:18 PM] RYDE#8862
As an actual person who left Christianity, Jesus would floor Trump and his base.


[23-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Sell all you have and give to the poor."

aw c'mon jesus quit kiddin around


[23-Aug-20 05:19 PM] RYDE#8862
In back of my mind, God was already sorry for creating this shit.


[23-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've seen some argue that Jesus wasn't being *literal.* He was setting "impossibly high" standards to demonstrate humanity's need for God's forgiveness, but that feels a bit revisionist to me


[23-Aug-20 05:22 PM] Dr. Mechano#9877
clearly jesus really did want evangelists to own 3-story mansions and private jets when he said "sell and give to the poor"


[23-Aug-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. But only if you voted for me and wore my merch, if not you can go fuck yourself"

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[23-Aug-20 05:32 PM] RYDE#8862
Hate to say it but, Trump should go fuck himself.


[23-Aug-20 05:33 PM] RYDE#8862
Wait, that only expand his narcissism. Damn it.


[23-Aug-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m not sure trump would be able to handle a trump clone, eventually they would start fighting eachother for the spotlight


[23-Aug-20 05:35 PM] byte[]#2610
he can't fuck himself because his head is glued to the inside of his asshole


[23-Aug-20 05:36 PM] RYDE#8862
So, we can't shove his policy where the sun don't shine?


[23-Aug-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we might be able to if we pushed hard enough


[23-Aug-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe lube his policies up a bit


[23-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Phelan#7647

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[23-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Phelan#7647
I've never seen a poll go so wrong on Twitter.


[23-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I mean, people have been straight up admitting they'd take Trump's word over Jesus


[23-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28TXvRPpW8

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Trump voter: I believe President over Jesus (full panel interview)
CNN's Alisyn Camerota sits down with Trump voters from across the country and asks them to grade the President one year after his win.
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[23-Aug-20 06:00 PM] byte[]#2610
I mean, Trump is alive right now, Jesus is either completely fabricated or dead and if he was alive he lived 2000 years ago


[23-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Jesus was probably a real person. The debate is if he's God and all that.


[23-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"debate"


[23-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh it _is_ a debate, since it's objectively impossible to prove either way.


[23-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
so basicly people go ring round the ~~rozy~~ :bewk: for centuries :3


[23-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh the actual question is not if the guy was some kinda diefic being or not, but if it is relevant or not. And I firmly believe it isn't. Leadership 101 says that if you want people to follow your plan you make sure they get it and provide refreshers when required; by this point whatever instructions provided, if any, were completely distorted and entirely lost the original meaning. So, w/e.


[23-Aug-20 08:11 PM] illumnious#7938
So some asshant sent me this on Instagram

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[23-Aug-20 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
I can come up with 27 good things I've done in the past four years too


[23-Aug-20 08:13 PM] byte[]#2610
but I can't come up with 842 bad / utterly _horrific_ things about my life the way I can with the Trump administration


[23-Aug-20 08:14 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-842

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Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, C...
To be read before the 2020 Presidential Election. 
Register to vote here.
- - -Early in President Trump’s term, McSweeney’s editors began to catalo...
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[23-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
also from I remember about FOSTA/whatever is that it fucked primarily people trying to be legit xD


[23-Aug-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
yep


[23-Aug-20 08:16 PM] wren#0114
absolutely heinous

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[23-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
eh, if this was the worst that could be said about him it'd be fine


[23-Aug-20 08:17 PM] NightZeroni#9056
https://youtu.be/0fJzCi7JQYY

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[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Trump signed a law..."


[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean


[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
I love the fact that some of the thing are 'he SAID'


[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
His options when a law gets past the senate are "sign" or "veto"


[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not like he did *jack shit*


[23-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
so even when scraping the bottom you can't get 27 _deeds_ of any sort xD


[23-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"He signed a law making being a bad person illegal!"
Yeah no shit he did, it's either that or he becomes the guy that vetoed it for no logical reason


[23-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
'US surpassed the world in crude oil', cause money printer goes brrrrrrt and this proud capitalist/libertarian nation can subsidise those negative oil prices for as long as the businesses want it :wheeze:


[23-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
19 -  'year-by-year drug price decline is the past 9 months out of 10' :wat:


[23-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
really this is... I'd say self-own but this isn't written by him for a change, so just sad.


[23-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[23-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Damn Tim I didn't realize my shoes and car are ongoing services that Nike and Ford provide to me.


[23-Aug-20 08:29 PM] wren#0114
context?


[23-Aug-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
epic v. apple


[23-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what he dreams about at night It's


[23-Aug-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
oh speaking of that, https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21377660/apple-fortnite-epic-antitrust-lawsuit-in-app-purchases-special-deal

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Apple says Epic is ‘putting the entire App Store model at risk’
Apple kicked Fortnite off the App Store last week.
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[23-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Opponent#3498
_every aspect of life with a subscription-based model_ :glowing_eyes:


[23-Aug-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
GOOD, fuck the App Store's walled garden shit so hard


[23-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh no, _not the app store!_


[23-Aug-20 08:33 PM] PwnyPony#6185
If only there were other options. :twismug:


[23-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Tim Sweeney asked for a “special deal with only Epic”
_Literally in the fucking email apple published:_
> "We hope that Apple will also make these options equally available to all iOS developers"

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[23-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[23-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Itsthinking#8251

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[23-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What's Apple's reasoning for taking away Epic's access to dev tools?


[23-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Probably was in the contract I'd guess?


[23-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
What Epic ultimately wants wouldn't kill app stores


[23-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Itsthinking#8251
You'd just have a dozen plus app stores


[23-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
_good_


[23-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"Wait, why is piracy so rampant now?"


[23-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also this would be weird on consoles


[23-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Also could I sell something on EGS and cut out Epic's share?


[23-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Itsthinking#8251
12% is still too much, how about I take it all and you still promote my game?


[23-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Crow#5457
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[23-Aug-20 09:28 PM] byte[]#2610
xd


[23-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
in other news, someone in another server said that the only reason why anyone's talking about the USPS is because the media tells us to talk about the USPS


[23-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Crow#5457
and says that people "screeching" over the USPS are like people who "suddenly become soccer fans for the world cup every 4 years"


[23-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
also doesn't give a shit that trump's emulating fascist takeovers with his tactics either, says that you have to "play dirty like trump" to "win"


[23-Aug-20 09:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and what does winning entail, exactly, other than a trail of playing dirty and reaping the consequences of corruption? 'Cause let's be honest, if you're in a discord server, you aren't reaping the *rewards* of corruption


[23-Aug-20 09:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's a complete tautology. Owning the libs is good because it makes liberals cry. Which is good because you owned the libs.


[23-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is to let the losers debate about whether you are right or wrong while you've won


[23-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Republicans are government without civility, Democrats are civility without government.


[23-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Opponent#3498
so being a government means destroy your infrastructure and subjugate your population to maintain absolute power. Interesting.


[23-Aug-20 09:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
See, I think it's more than that, because that's too logical. It's gotta hit on an emotional level to resonate with them. It's "Are you AMERICAN?" and the great thing about that question is that for them, if you try to give another definition of what it means to be an American, it means you're *unamerican* and your argument is automatically invalid


[23-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow Sounds like bad ol' switch to distract from other matters buried by this.


[23-Aug-20 09:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
especially if the definition you give resembles their definition of "socialism" in any way, or anything else that impedes the image of american exceptionalism


[23-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[23-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
have u seen yesterday clashes between antifa and trump supporters in Portland?


[23-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
well, they're having fun


[23-Aug-20 10:29 PM] jlun2#8758
> and says that people "screeching" over the USPS are like people who "suddenly become soccer fans for the world cup every 4 years"
they become EA FIFA fans for the other 3 years ofc
also ppl sure are fine with associating trump w/ jesus. maybe just me but thats sounds like poor PR


[23-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Opponent#3498
poor PR for Jesus maybe.


[23-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Jesus expelled the merchants and the money changers from his temple. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple#/media/File%3AEl_Greco_13.jpg

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Cleansing of the Temple
The cleansing of the Temple narrative tells of Jesus expelling the merchants and the money changers from the Temple, and occurs in all four canonical gospels of the New Testament. The scene is a common motif in Christian art.
In this account, Jesus and his disciples travel to ...
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[23-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump gives his big corporate buddys millions by yeeting money at the stonk market


[23-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/GI7sBsBHdCk

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Jamie's Channel
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The Federal Reserve vs Covid-19
What the f am I doing with my time. Hope r/WSB likes it.
Also thanks to Tim Van Helsdingen for letting me use his money printer clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1hCLBTD5RM
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[23-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/i/status/1297605260169621509

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(^ó ᴥ ò^) Chelle (@ChelleDoggo)
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BOBA TEA IS LITERALLY ASIAN CULTURE

IT WAS INVENTED IN TAIWAN https://t.co/uNVzE1uRbG
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[23-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
If Trump is Jesus then why isn’t he nailed to a cross

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[23-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Opponent#3498
an excellent question.


[23-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@Itsthinking useful idiots don't stop being idiots just because they're useful


[23-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a useful idiot for the BLM cause


[23-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
She calls a Black man a slur


[23-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
le fucke?


[24-Aug-20 12:00 AM] byte[]#2610
wtf?


[24-Aug-20 12:01 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wait who calls who what


[24-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She calls a Black man a "coon"


[24-Aug-20 12:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who?


[24-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The woman saying the store is appropriating things


[24-Aug-20 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh, the boba tea post?


[24-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes


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[24-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh I’d trust the combine more then Trump


[24-Aug-20 12:26 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[24-Aug-20 12:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513312-fda-authorizes-covid-19-plasma-treatment

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FDA authorizes COVID-19 plasma treatment amid Trump pressure
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced Sunday that it has authorized convalescent plasma for emergency use to treat patients sickened by the novel coronavirus.
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[24-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Plasma


[24-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
You mean fire?


[24-Aug-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
blood plasma


[24-Aug-20 01:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
:10bux: says Trump didn't know that when he reflected the idea back

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[24-Aug-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/513314-judge-halts-trump-campaigns-mail-voting-lawsuit-against-pennsylvania

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Judge halts Trump campaign's mail-voting lawsuit against Pennsylvania
A federal judge in Pennsylvania on Sunday halted the Trump campaign’s lawsuit against the state over how it sends and counts mail-in ballots.
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[24-Aug-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/513201-tennessee-governor-signs-bill-increasing-punishments-for-certain

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Tennessee governor signs bill increasing punishments for certain pr...
Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) quietly signed a bill into law ramping up punishments for certain kinds of protests, including losing the right to vote.
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[24-Aug-20 01:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Aug-20 01:37 AM] byte[]#2610
TRO here we gooo


[24-Aug-20 01:50 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What The Fuck


[24-Aug-20 01:52 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tryin' to one-up Alabama I see


[24-Aug-20 02:21 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/8ALTON8/status/1297505813691371520?s=20
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[24-Aug-20 02:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
:tired:


[24-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
wat


[24-Aug-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Vaush, a terrible and politically naive self-described leftist youtube personality, seems to have attracted h3h3productions to his side


[24-Aug-20 02:24 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But i kinda think Ethan is being ironic here


[24-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
who who and who


[24-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
internet is wild

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[24-Aug-20 02:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
We mocked our parents for reading tabloids and mock obsession with celebrity gossip but do the same shit


[24-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1297584193283788802

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Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech)
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One of the NYPD’s most brutal cops known as “Bullethead” is not only still on the force & relied upon by Brooklyn prosecutors. “In 2015 he made $74,125 in overtime, nearly doubling his income over his salary of $78,026. Then came the promotions.” Systemic. https://t.co/Fw9G23...
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[24-Aug-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
maybe if your name is "bullethead" you shouldn't be a cop


[24-Aug-20 02:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just a thought


[24-Aug-20 02:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, has anyone else noticed that the slowmode timer rounds every second down, so when the timer hits 0:00 you still have 1 second to wait before you can post?


[24-Aug-20 02:56 AM] byte[]#2610
can we just redo the permissions so that people have to be invited into this channel before posting in it


[24-Aug-20 02:57 AM] byte[]#2610
that both fixes the problem of it being flooded with spam and also prevents people who have been muted from simply leaving and rejoining the discord to speak here again


[24-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
^


[24-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Crow#5457
did I miss something


[24-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I think I brought this up with nebbie, or in support


[24-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Actually it might have been in here


[24-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Crow#5457
leaving and rejoining to get around a mute would result in a ban


[24-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Hypothetical, I assume


[24-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
I'd honestly love if they did that. Easy ban


[24-Aug-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
Obviously it would result in a ban but so does spamming


[24-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Raptorshy#6268
:nanadealwithit:


[24-Aug-20 03:01 AM] byte[]#2610
If you think banning isn't going to be an issue ... why the slowmode?


[24-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Raptorshy#6268
Same reason support has it. Legacy setting from earlier problems


[24-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/23/nypd-75th-precinct-police-misconduct/

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Despite Huge Number of Misconduct Complaints, Cops at NYPD’s 75th P...
There has been little to no accountability for the staggering number of lawsuits and substantiated civilian complaints against the troubled precinct.
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[24-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Crow#5457
so uh, there's way more to that tweet than just the bullethead thing


[24-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
> The CCRB data paints a damning picture of the 75th. Fifty-five active police officers at the precinct have at least one complaint that was “substantiated with charges” on their record. Not only were none of these officers terminated, but, since 2000, police commissioners have not even applied the CCRB’s less harsh recommendation of temporary suspension without pay. Not a single one of the officers clocked fewer hours after the CCRB’s conclusion, according to CAPstat.


[24-Aug-20 03:08 AM] Crow#5457
> Andrew Case, a former CCRB spokesperson, said suspensions are exceedingly rare. He once oversaw a complaint by a man who was beaten from behind by an officer with a baton with so much force, it ruptured his spleen. The officer barely faced consequences. “He got 10 vacation days docked,” Case said. “That’s their idea of what discipline should be.”
> 
> Not only did officers in the 75th Precinct with substantiated charges go undisciplined, but they also continued to make more and more money — both from raises and by harnessing NYPD’s infamous use of overtime pay. (As an example of overtime bloat, cops collectively raked in some $115 million in overtime pay in the first two weeks of the George Floyd protests.)
> 
> Every officer from the 75th Precinct who had complaints that were “substantiated with charges” got multiple raises in the years following the conclusion of their CCRB investigations, according to The Intercept’s analysis. More than half got raises the same year the CCRB substantiated complaints against them. Almost all of the officers in question also racked up thousands of dollars more in overtime pay than they had earned the year before complaints against them.
> 
> Take Grieco, who is known by the nickname “Bullethead.” In 2014, the year after the most serious CCRB complaint against him was substantiated, Grieco made $50,279 in overtime, up from $24,706 the year before. In 2015, he made $74,125 in overtime, nearly doubling his income over his salary of $78,026. Then came the promotions.


[24-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
apparently the NYPD as a whole has a history of abusing overpay somehow too


[24-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
> Today’s troubled 75th Precinct is not a historical aberration; the precinct has a long and sordid history of abuse, misconduct, and even criminal activity. In the 1980s, a group of detectives collaborated with drug cartels, taking bribes, running crack and cocaine, and robbing cartel rivals. One former officer, who helped plot to murder the wife of a rival drug dealer, served 13 years in prison and another detective served eight. Other officers who were involved served no time. The case prompted the formation of the Mollen Commission to study police corruption and misconduct — with damning results about corruption and abuse, in particular everyday brutality against the people of East New York.


[24-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Crow#5457
and it's not a new or recent thing either


[24-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
it's always been corrupt as shit


[24-Aug-20 03:10 AM] Crow#5457
and no one in power ever does anything about it


[24-Aug-20 03:11 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.axios.com/twitter-flags-trump-tweet-mail-drop-a92a868c-3f4c-450c-a5f4-fb8c83513e4e.html

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Twitter flags Trump tweet about mail drop boxes for violating elect...
The tweet remained on the platform for more than five hours before the label was added.
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[24-Aug-20 03:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I wonder what would happen if Trump just started posting CP


[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
twitter and FB would take it down


[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] byte[]#2610
as for criminal charges ... add it to the pile


[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
oh shit my bad, I linked the wrong article


[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
changed it


[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/

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Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Rea...
An analysis of leaked law enforcement documents reveals an obsession with “antifa” despite evidence of threats of violence to police and protesters.
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[24-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Crow#5457
this one is a separate issue


[24-Aug-20 03:17 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-20 03:18 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/16/esper-eyes-22-billion-cut-military-health-care-395578

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Esper eyes $2.2 billion cut to military health care
Yet defense officials say troops and their families could be hurt.
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[24-Aug-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Esper and his deputies have argued that America's private health system can pick up the slack.

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[24-Aug-20 03:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Esper rolled out the results of the first iteration of the defense-wide review in February, revealing $5.7 billion in cost savings that he said would be put toward preparing the Pentagon to better compete with Russia and China, including research into hypersonic weapons, artificial intelligence, missile defense and more.


[24-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
```can we just redo the permissions so that people have to be invited into this channel before posting in it```
then I'd never be invited, nor many other people.


[24-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
basicly invite-only forces you into an echo-chamber. It's a terrible idea.


[24-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
so basicly bloat the military budget further while actually gutting a few programs that _help_.


[24-Aug-20 04:01 AM] Opponent#3498
I got nothing.


[24-Aug-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically jsut pull everything out of life support and funnel it all into useless weapons development that creates mroe unused junk that sits around for decades


[24-Aug-20 04:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or is given to the police force for free because the military isnt using it


[24-Aug-20 04:45 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-deaths-republicans-democrats-poll-a9684381.html

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Poll finds majority of Republicans believe 170,000 coronavirus deat...
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[24-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
eh. Mortals tend to die, it's in the name.


[24-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
it's the way covid tends to kill that is undesirable.


[24-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/breaking-kellyanne-conway-leaving-white-house-amid-family-turmoil/

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BREAKING: Kellyanne Conway Leaving White House
Kellyanne Conway, one of the longest serving top officials in the Trump administration, is leaving the White House at the end of the month.
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[24-Aug-20 05:09 AM] byte[]#2610
uhhhh https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-is-petrified-that-pro-weed-forces-will-roast-him

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Trump Is Petrified That Pro-Weed Forces Will Roast Him
The president warned publicly this week that marijuana ballot initiatives were hurting Republicans.
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[24-Aug-20 05:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
A ton of states want Democratic-promoted ideas but Republican governance.


[24-Aug-20 05:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[24-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People who are pro-legalization won't necessarily vote Democrat


[24-Aug-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking is it due to race


[24-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It was for a while. However, even the most pro-Trump people I know generally concede that weed should be legal. It's not really a partisan issue anymore.


[24-Aug-20 05:16 AM] jlun2#8758
also lol trump bong


[24-Aug-20 05:25 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1297320065403170817

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[24-Aug-20 05:26 AM] byte[]#2610
nb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0

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[24-Aug-20 05:28 AM] >That Guy#3386
If Trump were smart he'd push his party to legalize weed. It would earn them a ton of votes.
>inb4 evangelicals
They'll still vote Republican.


[24-Aug-20 05:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
Democrats won't do it because they're scared of losing people in the middle, but Republicans have nothing to lose.


[24-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It stopped being political when a lot of people conceded "Yeah, grandma would probably really benefit from medical marijuana"


[24-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
democrats mostly do it through ballot initiatives


[24-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Phelan#7647
I hope that the religious right doesnt come back. Hate em more than I hate neocons.


[24-Aug-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
instead of making it party platform


[24-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They're slowly fading.


[24-Aug-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
first amendment is meaningless in 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/william-barr-rupert-murdoch-muzzle-andrew-napolitano-fox-news-trump-critic-book

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[24-Aug-20 05:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The explicit politicization of religion has been disastrous to American Christianity and religion as a whole


[24-Aug-20 05:31 AM] >That Guy#3386
I mean do it openly.
Make s big speech about it and take all the credit.


[24-Aug-20 05:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Evangelicals aren't exactly fading.


[24-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Phelan#7647
I think as far as power goes. I think that if Trump didn't run, Cruz would be in office by now.


[24-Aug-20 05:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
I only wish they wouldn't allow themselves to be manipulated by zionists.
Fuck Israel.


[24-Aug-20 05:33 AM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/PantsuVor/status/1297267957328904194?s=19

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[24-Aug-20 05:35 AM] byte[]#2610
https://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1297234546862112768

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Trump 2020: Fuck Your Feelings
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[24-Aug-20 05:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
Lol


[24-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The weird thing about Biden is that you can never really tell if/when dementia kicks in


[24-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Because he's always been kind of strange and rambling, even 30+ years ago


[24-Aug-20 05:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
Dementia kicked in 30+ years ago.


[24-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's just never been that smart, had a stutter for most of his life, and probably has an undiagnosed learning disability/AD(H)D


[24-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Pick any arrangement of those three


[24-Aug-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-20 06:23 AM] byte[]#2610
Guy in white house*


[24-Aug-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
https://cdn2.unrealengine.com/epic-pi-tro-08-23-2020-819871195.pdf


[24-Aug-20 06:32 AM] byte[]#2610
Microsoft amicus in support of Epic

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[24-Aug-20 06:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sounds like their problem is with Epic and not Apple tbh


[24-Aug-20 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also regarding the article on what we all suspected that Murdoch/Barr meeting was about at the time: of course the first amendment doesn't matter in 2020, it's not as important as television ratings. And they said as much. Doesn't matter what the law is or is not, if your friends in high places want something done and you want to remain a friend in a high place yourself, you do everything you can to keep your hold on that power


[24-Aug-20 07:28 AM] Phelan#7647
No surprise that Microsoft would want Epic to win, Apple isn't allowing Xcloud for some reason (something about every game being its own item on the app store)


[24-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Phelan#7647
Also, literally the second biggest company going after the largest company.


[24-Aug-20 07:49 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/politics/joe-biden-fact-check-gop-tax-cuts-naacp-endorsement/index.html

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While former Vice President Joe Biden has been limited in his campaign efforts due to the coronavirus pandemic, the presumptive Democratic nominee has continued to hold virtual town halls, remote interviews with the press, started a podcast and, more recently, has held several...
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[24-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
> Factcheck.org reported that the Biden campaign did not provide any instances of Trump specifically saying he wants to impede the service's ability to deliver ballots.


[24-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
from 6/27/2020


[24-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Crow#5457
funny how quickly things change


[24-Aug-20 08:47 AM] Crow#5457
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[24-Aug-20 09:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy4zNCOexSI

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They CAN'T Justify This One, But They'll Try to Anyway
fucking pigs

Website - https://www.vaush.gg/
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[24-Aug-20 09:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
blue lives murder


[24-Aug-20 09:35 AM] Phelan#7647
>vaush


[24-Aug-20 09:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
Yes.


[24-Aug-20 09:48 AM] Phelan#7647
He's as good as Ian miles chong


[24-Aug-20 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
I vaguely remember watching some of vaush's early stuff when he just had a mic and no webcam, he seemed pretty reasonable to me


[24-Aug-20 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
I have no idea who ian miles chong is though


[24-Aug-20 09:59 AM] ononim#8141
>vaush


[24-Aug-20 10:01 AM] Crow#5457
what's wrong with vaush


[24-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
I haven't watched anything from vaush in years and everyone's just acting like he's bad for some reason now


[24-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Crow#5457
was there some drama or something?


[24-Aug-20 10:20 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
welp that cop fucked


[24-Aug-20 10:24 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Didn't Vaush make some bold statements that marginalized weak people should kill themselves?


[24-Aug-20 10:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
I don't think so, unless you mean he was satirizing conservatives, many of whom literally think that, or at least in their ideal world it'd be the rational course of action for many lol


[24-Aug-20 10:36 AM] Phelan#7647
I know vaush did say that letting pedophiles buying child pornography is as ethical as buying a computer.


[24-Aug-20 10:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/Doctor_Claw85/status/1297771950320713728

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It’s getting worse, Armed Civilians up against a Bobcat SWAT Team transport #Kenosha #Wisconsin #CivilWar https://t.co/nfDz9ExXw2
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[24-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
```Didn't Vaush make some bold statements that marginalized weak people should kill themselves?```
it's unironically true though. Why suffer?


[24-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Opponent#3498
things aren't getting measurably better for them anyway, maybe the next generation...


[24-Aug-20 01:06 PM] Opponent#3498
```I know vaush did say that letting pedophiles buying child pornography is as ethical as buying a computer.```
also probably true. The problem isn't the consumption in a vacuum, it's the creation of it.


[24-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The problem is that this fuels production in first place


[24-Aug-20 01:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but that's not an ethics question.


[24-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Phelan#7647
It's not ethical to allow the transaction of CP.


[24-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Opponent#3498
yeh, and they can't fight the production, can they :twismug:


[24-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Phelan#7647
I'd imagine that it'd hugely cut down on the production if we ban the sale.


[24-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it doesn't nessesarily work for drugs.


[24-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Phelan#7647
Drugs (usually) don't have a victim and, if they do, the victim is the person using it. I'm against drug prohibition because of that. The production of child porn has a victim, the child being raped.


[24-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Opponent#3498
point.


[24-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why not allow fantasy that does not involve victim? It is classified as same as real one.


[24-Aug-20 01:20 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If the video games were classified in the same way, killing people in game would be considered a crime.


[24-Aug-20 01:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is also much easier to argue for.


[24-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Phelan#7647
If you're into fantasies of children getting fucked, I wouldn't say that's criminal but I'd say that you're most likely a pedo. Null, one of the former admins of 8chan, said that people on the loli boards were often the same people getting banned for CP.


[24-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Opponent#3498
this gets interesting when you translate that into adult things like rape, snuff etc.


[24-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Phelan#7647
I wouldn't be surprised if a rapist had participated in rapeplay in the past. Don't have any stats about that tho.


[24-Aug-20 01:47 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.insider.com/tiktok-trend-shows-people-pretending-to-be-holocaust-victims-heaven-2020-8

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TikTok creators are pretending to be Holocaust victims in heaven in...
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[24-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Crow#5457
what the fuck


[24-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Opponent#3498
people are fucking stupid.


[24-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Opponent#3498
how do you even come up with this?


[24-Aug-20 01:51 PM] byte[]#2610
why does the media reward attention whores with the most attention giving device possible


[24-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
...also that tbh.


[24-Aug-20 01:52 PM] byte[]#2610
the real stupid is whovere authored this article


[24-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's basicly free advertisement isn't it


[24-Aug-20 01:56 PM] byte[]#2610
it's still fresh in my mind how trump grifted literally millions of dollars of free coverage during the 2016 campaign and the media just... went along with it because they wanted to "look fair"


[24-Aug-20 02:11 PM] >That Guy#3386
No, they went along with it because they couldn't get enough of him. He was too juicy for those tabloid-mongers to resist.


[24-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Xenxc#4012
he's too juicy for me to resist


[24-Aug-20 02:14 PM] Xenxc#4012
have you seen him playing tennis?


[24-Aug-20 02:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513326-usps-house-bill-would-hurt-efforts-to-improve-service

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USPS: House bill would hurt efforts to 'improve service'
The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) is voicing concerns that new House legislation addressing changes at the agency would ultimately harm its efforts to improve efficiency and reduce costs in the lead-up to the 2020 presidential election.
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[24-Aug-20 02:28 PM] byte[]#2610
it will hurt efforts to improve the election stealing service, yes


[24-Aug-20 02:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/513330-protests-erupt-in-wisconsin-after-black-man-shot-in-back-by-police

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Protests erupt in Wisconsin after Black man shot in back by police
Protests erupted in Kenosha, Wis., on Sunday night after video surfaced showing a city police officer shoot a Black man several times as he attempted to enter his vehicle.
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[24-Aug-20 02:34 PM] byte[]#2610
> Video captured by a witness showed Blake walking around an SUV on the side of a street as two officers trailed him with their firearms pointed in his direction. After Blake opened the driver's side door and leaned into the vehicle, an officer fired his weapon seven times as he grabs Blake's shirt, according to the clip.


[24-Aug-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1297721479711334401

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Wow. This Black man was shot several times in the back by @KenoshaPolice today. He was getting into his car after apparently breaking up a fight between two women. He’s in critical condition now. We demand JUSTICE! #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/I1reDEp4nw
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[24-Aug-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
this article is riddled with crazy amounts of inaccuracies


[24-Aug-20 02:36 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Bro just shoot both officers 7 times in the back


[24-Aug-20 02:36 PM] byte[]#2610
which is weird because usually The Hill does a good job


[24-Aug-20 02:50 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[24-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not a 'no' though :twismug:


[24-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
No


[24-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-belarus-protests-president-armed-with-rifle-20200823-xf72pjghzbh75bfm75fs2fqqxm-story.html

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Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko seen on video carrying rifle...
The dramatic moment occurred as massive protests calling for his resignation flooded the capital of Minsk on Sunday for the 15th straight day.
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[24-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Crow#5457
belarus president acting like a tough guy now


[24-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta sell that invasion in any way he can


[24-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@>That Guy Me when I play Monopoly and I pass Go


[24-Aug-20 03:19 PM] >That Guy#3386
Monopoly is a cruel game.


[24-Aug-20 03:20 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/mrmcwhiteguy1/status/1297643896776859650?s=21

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Ok so the time loop start point is Kim Jong Un's coma https://t.co/Tkiq4MeH2X
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[24-Aug-20 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Aug-20 03:53 PM] Itsthinking#8251
AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN


[24-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, is Kim rumoured to be ded again?


[24-Aug-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he is rumored to be in a coma, and some news stations are taking this as him being dead


[24-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Was he actually seen again in public after that one ribbon-cutting ceremony?


[24-Aug-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know


[24-Aug-20 04:29 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-sourced-covid-ventilators-from-russia-that-didnt-work-report-2020-8

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Jared Kushner made a deal with Russia for ventilators during the CO...
Senior Trump administration officials told the Daily Beast that Jared Kushner was behind an order from Russia which was unltimately unusuable.
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[24-Aug-20 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
CW: child abuse
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Brazil: outcry as religious extremists harass child seeking abortion
Ten-year-old girl was forced to fly more than 900 miles to north-eastern city of Recife for the procedure after being raped
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[24-Aug-20 04:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When you care so much about children you harass a girl who was abused by her uncle then seeking an abortion whilst ignoring the notion that her young body cannot sustain a fetus

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[24-Aug-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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TikTok users review-bombed Trump's campaign app so hard that Apple ...
TikTok fans began review-bombing the Trump 2020 app on Apple's App Store in July after Trump signed an executive order targeting ByteDance.
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[24-Aug-20 05:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny was poisoned, Berlin hospi...
The hospital treating Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny says tests indicate that he was poisoned.
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[24-Aug-20 05:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>>2338008


[24-Aug-20 05:28 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703

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[24-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Phelan#7647
TikTok should be banned for being cringe, settling for declaring them a national security risk is close enough I guess.


[24-Aug-20 05:52 PM] jlun2#8758
ban twitter for cringe


[24-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Phelan#7647
yes


[24-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Every website created 2005 onwards is cringe


[24-Aug-20 06:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best thing to do is shut down the internet and return to letters as a form of communication


[24-Aug-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/513370-manhattan-prosecutor-agrees-to-shelve-subpoena-for-trump-tax-returns

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Manhattan prosecutor agrees to shelve subpoena for Trump tax returns
Manhattan’s top prosecutor on Monday agreed to delay enforcement of a subpoena for eight years of President Trump’s tax returns.
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[24-Aug-20 06:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How much you wanna bet they waved dollar bills on his face

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[24-Aug-20 06:38 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[24-Aug-20 06:44 PM] Phelan#7647
@prism stryder(intexda) nah not that far, just get rid of the neo-internet. Smartphones becoming popular is the new Eternal September.


[24-Aug-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
declare smartphones a national security threat and add a couple years minimum sentence for their use :twismug:


[24-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Phelan#7647
ban smartphones and bring back T1 lines


[24-Aug-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[24-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
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[24-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
that's... interesting.


[24-Aug-20 07:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
All those stations are part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

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Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. (SBG) is a publicly traded American telecommunications conglomerate which is controlled by the family of company founder Julian Sinclair Smith. Headquartered in the Baltimore suburb of Cockeysville, Maryland, the company is the second-largest tel...
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[24-Aug-20 07:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> A 2019 study in the American Political Science Review found that "stations bought by Sinclair reduce coverage of local politics, increase national coverage and move the ideological tone of coverage in a conservative direction relative to other stations operating in the same market.


[24-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
iirc they forced all their station's head newscasters to read that script in response to negative news about Trump and impeachment


[24-Aug-20 07:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/02/598794433/video-reveals-power-of-sinclair-as-local-news-anchors-recite-script-in-unison

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Video Reveals Power Of Sinclair, As Local News Anchors Recite Scrip...
Sinclair Broadcast Group owns more than 190 local TV stations across the country. The company recently began instructing local anchors to read a script denouncing "fake" news.
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[24-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.engadget.com/zuckerberg-washington-tiktok-102052061.html

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WSJ: Mark Zuckerberg used a private Trump meeting to hurt TikTok
The Wall Street Journal claims that Mark Zuckerberg used his time in Washington DC to sound the alarm about TikTok.
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[24-Aug-20 08:32 PM] byte[]#2610
Corporate sabotage


[24-Aug-20 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
Nice


[24-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty sure this is just a form of lobbying.


[24-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
instead of having numerous middlemen, you do it directly, but the core idea is the same.


[24-Aug-20 08:38 PM] >That Guy#3386
`hurt TikTok`
Based.
`Mark Zuckerberg`
Boooo!


[24-Aug-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
Let me be clear I have no issues with kicking out confirmed Chinese spyware from US markets


[24-Aug-20 08:39 PM] byte[]#2610
The problem here is that Zuckerberg had an obvious incentive to get them kicked out (maintaining monopoly) and was apparently successful at it


[24-Aug-20 08:40 PM] byte[]#2610
He should be punished


[24-Aug-20 08:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
I'm glad he succeeded, but Facebook should be next.


[24-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
by whom :lul:


[24-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean really.


[24-Aug-20 08:41 PM] byte[]#2610
probably the only person who could is his wife in bed :twismug:


[24-Aug-20 08:46 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[24-Aug-20 08:48 PM] byte[]#2610
I still don't understand what this comic means


[24-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
my guess its MAGA pro guns dude who wear that mask to hide his face but he refuse to comply with mask wearing request cause forcing someone to do so is against constitution or something


[24-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
'I do what I want, you don't tell me what to do'.


[24-Aug-20 08:54 PM] >That Guy#3386
It's probably an edit.


[24-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
BLM-esque guys have no reason to shed masks though, so, gotta wonder who the original would be about


[24-Aug-20 08:55 PM] >That Guy#3386
Seigetards aren't the same as libertarians anyway.
I only posted it here because it was too political for #memes-and-shitposts


[24-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
http://stonetoss.com/comic/mask-off/

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Mask Off
A rebel without a cough.
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[24-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
it is original


[24-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yup. 'You can't tell me what to do'.


[24-Aug-20 08:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
>MAGA hat
>Siege mask
>Snek shirt
Who is this mysterious man?


[24-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Trump supporter?


[24-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Skull masks are cool btw


[24-Aug-20 08:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
Hmmmm.


[24-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
ye it's unfortunate they're tainted now


[24-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I don't get it


[24-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Phelan#7647
Saying that the people that post "hey wanna blow up a federal building" tend to be feds.


[24-Aug-20 09:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
The point is that seigetards are idiots and half of them are just larping FBI.


[24-Aug-20 09:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
>"Oh boy I sure do wanna rape my mailman. Where do you guys get your mail delivered?"


[24-Aug-20 09:06 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/24/nyu-student-group-advocates-for-racially-segregated-housing/

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NYU Student Group Advocates For Racially Segregated Housing
NYU students are demanding housing with “floors completely comprised of Black-identifying students with Black Resident Assistants.”
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[24-Aug-20 09:06 PM] >That Guy#3386
We've come full circle.


[24-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So blacks asking for segregation?


[24-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yup.


[24-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
this is why 'too' is missing from BLM


[24-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Opponent#3498
people simply want blacks to become new whites :wheeze:


[24-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Opponent#3498
live out the BBC cuck fantasy.


[24-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Re: the Stonetoss comic


[24-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He's an actual national socialist (takes both parts seriously) so he doesn't like conservatives that are not


[24-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't like Trump because Trump doesn't go far enough, and is too friendly with Israel.


[24-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Marukomuru#8409
This is beyond full circle. We've straight-up gone backwards.


[24-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Blackwards


[24-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Marukomuru#8409
That too


[24-Aug-20 11:41 PM] byte[]#2610
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[24-Aug-20 11:42 PM] byte[]#2610
Ass: a zoomer delicacy


[24-Aug-20 11:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/anti-vaccine-group-sues-facebook-claims-fact-checking-is-censorship/

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Anti-vaccine group sues Facebook, claims fact-checking is “censorsh...
Facebook's former biggest anti-vax advertiser is back with a new tactic.
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[24-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
How this lawsuit will go


[24-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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Nothing Bad Ever Happens to the Kennedy's
NOTHING!
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[25-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Anti-Vaxxers: “Nothing bad ever happens to us fine Christian pure blooded god loving folk”
New plague that needs a vaccine to cure: *Microscopic organism sounds*


[25-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
Okay so, @>That Guy I'm gonna go ahead and say that, FBI label or not, Le Happy Merchant meme really shouldn't be posted in here.


[25-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's at best stupid bait.


[25-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
any context to it?


[25-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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Richard Spencer backs Joe Biden, says "MAGA/alt-right moment is over"
Spencer rose to prominence after shouting "Hail Trump!" and being greeted with Nazi salutes in Washington shortly after Donald Trump's 2016 election victory.
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[25-Aug-20 12:35 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the smarter rats are fleeing the ship.


[25-Aug-20 01:03 AM] byte[]#2610
@Dr. Mechano I found me but opposite https://i.redd.it/lhqnyov94zi51.jpg

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[25-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Does Christian schooling include the sects/interpretations of Christianity that basically are secular in their stance on education


[25-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Sure we make you pray and there's crosses, but you're also learning about evolution and other religions in the world" etc


[25-Aug-20 01:15 AM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Opponent#3498
the life is a punishment, we're living in Purgatory or something. So the worse it gets, the more pure we'll be at the end of it is the logic? :squintyjack:


[25-Aug-20 01:24 AM] >That Guy#3386
Spencer was always full of shit.


[25-Aug-20 01:26 AM] byte[]#2610
Lotta grifters in politics


[25-Aug-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
Turns out it's easy money to go on camera and talk for years about how the gays and atheists are coming to sexualize your children and scare jesus out of your home


[25-Aug-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
People eat that shit up, and advertisers are only too happy to oblige


[25-Aug-20 01:30 AM] >That Guy#3386
`The MAGA/Alt-Right moment is over. `
What a scumbag. He always treated the whole "movement" as a pointless meme to get attention.


[25-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
it's kind of what it is :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
a group of grifters parting fools with their money


[25-Aug-20 01:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
The "alt right" was a dumb blanket-term to begin with.


[25-Aug-20 01:34 AM] >That Guy#3386
Was basically just anyone right of center who wasn't a neocon boomer.


[25-Aug-20 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
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Man who believed virus was hoax loses wife to Covid-19
A couple from Florida did not follow health guidelines after believing lies about the virus online.
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[25-Aug-20 01:45 AM] byte[]#2610
> Brian said he and his wife didn't have one firm belief about Covid-19. Instead, they switched between thinking the virus was a hoax, linked to 5G technology, or a real, but mild ailment. They came across these theories on Facebook.


[25-Aug-20 01:46 AM] jlun2#8758
clearly assasinated by the left :twiright:


[25-Aug-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
comments:
> As an older Millennial, I grew up during an era when adults told us not to believe anything on the internet. Wikipedia was not a reliable source, not even acceptable as a starting point for school projects - go use a real printed encyclopedia instead.
> 
> How did that generation go from this to believing everything on facebook? I see this from my own parents and their friends as well, smart people with post-graduate degrees who now recite what is essentially facebook chain mail like it's fact. "Eat this superfood to boost your immune system!" "2 minute self-test for coronavirus!" Like ma'am you have a biology degree?!


[25-Aug-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
also is it just me or i legit  cannot find relevant shit on facebook? how do ppl keep encountering this


[25-Aug-20 01:47 AM] byte[]#2610
you're on facebook?


[25-Aug-20 01:47 AM] jlun2#8758
i made an acc to message someone & never posted anything else


[25-Aug-20 01:48 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Facebook seems pretty simple. Like twitter I think. sees who you follow or looked at then points you in that direction.


[25-Aug-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i had facebook once, got confused by the layout and deactivated my account forever


[25-Aug-20 01:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this was more towards it;s start, i;m not sure what it looks liek now


[25-Aug-20 01:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
>unironically using Facebook


[25-Aug-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
i suspect that groups that focus on 🔪 :shrugpony:  prob doesnt last long on facebook


[25-Aug-20 01:50 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I only have a facebook because I wanted to play a game. forget what game it was.


[25-Aug-20 01:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have a twitter account because of a contest, but i dont really use it


[25-Aug-20 01:51 AM] jlun2#8758
i used twitter to ask an artist & thats it


[25-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Facebook is insidious


[25-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It sees what things people "engage with" and promotes it, even if that engagement starts off as negative


[25-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Until it snowballs into "popular content" and reaches people that want to believe it


[25-Aug-20 01:55 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That just spread it further


[25-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It may not have a hard coded "spread right wing BS" rule, but "right wing BS" tends to get a lot of reaction


[25-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And that means page views and ad impressions


[25-Aug-20 01:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And absolutely nothing else matters


[25-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The Zuck would execute your newborn child on an altar if it meant a boost in ad impressions for the next 3 months


[25-Aug-20 01:58 AM] byte[]#2610
There's no hardcoded right wing BS measures but the mods choose not to enforce the rules against disinformation and violent extremism for fear of appearing biased


[25-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, yes


[25-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because right wingers cry like babies if you so much as blink while they're talking to you


[25-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"ARE YOU TRYING TO SHUT ME OUT, CENSOR ME? AM I NOT ALLOWED IN YOUR SAFESPACE?!?!"


[25-Aug-20 02:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think it's pretty simple. You have a generation that learned not to trust MSM, a generation that relied on hometown news and their friends to stay informed...and then they found a way to stay in touch with all their old friends who all started sharing the same perspectives that the local (sinclair media) channel was, and all the news that popped up on facebook started lining up with that and *not* those big cable TV news channels


[25-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T CALL SOROS A KIKE? FUCKING NAZI BULLSHIT, THE FOUNDERS DIDN'T CHUCK TEA OFF A BOAT FOR THIS!!"


[25-Aug-20 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they don't know or don't care what an "algorithm" is, the news is telling them everything they expect to hear, and those sources are saying that the others are lying...and then you, an outsider, come along and say stuff that lines up with what the "lying media" says


[25-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
rural internet access was a mistake


[25-Aug-20 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and all because no one realized how insidious Rush Limbaugh was until it was far too late


[25-Aug-20 02:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, this stuff was brewing for years before 9/11 but nobody outside the bubble realized it was happening


[25-Aug-20 02:04 AM] byte[]#2610
by bubble do you mean the dotcom bubble


[25-Aug-20 02:04 AM] jlun2#8758
i was assuming tech dev


[25-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The crazy of people like Limbaugh and its effect has been known for a very long while


[25-Aug-20 02:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I guess just nobody cared


[25-Aug-20 02:05 AM] jlun2#8758
the devs who think social media will somehow save the world


[25-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sucks that these days there's just a hundred Rushes


[25-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
On YT, all with 12-15 minute long videos


[25-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
My calculus teacher actually had us make a facebook account as an end-year homework assignment, his reasoning being he wanted to still be in contact with us after we graduated. Still wound up deleting my facebook eventually


[25-Aug-20 02:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Getting really angry and sanctimonious about the latest total non-issue


[25-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Building up an audience of people addicted to being angry and believing they're constantly under attack


[25-Aug-20 02:08 AM] jlun2#8758
if i wanted to feel angry & constantly attacked i just play online games tbh


[25-Aug-20 02:09 AM] byte[]#2610
these are the kind of people who buy stresser subscriptions for when they play games


[25-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd just look at my paycheque and how the state takes 40% of my earnings while my company advertises my paycheque sans tax


[25-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't that fun


[25-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Stores tell me how much milk costs including tax


[25-Aug-20 02:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
But companies can't advertise how much you actually earn after taxes


[25-Aug-20 02:11 AM] byte[]#2610
Stores in the US don't include prices with tax, it's great


[25-Aug-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah, surprices


[25-Aug-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the best kind of surprise


[25-Aug-20 02:12 AM] green_byte#1188
*sigh*


[25-Aug-20 02:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i love going to pay for something and then learning i;m several cents to a dollar short of affording it


[25-Aug-20 02:14 AM] green_byte#1188
I'm wondering why a drug addict getting killed was the straw that broke the camel's back and caused the riots....


[25-Aug-20 02:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which one?


[25-Aug-20 02:14 AM] green_byte#1188
George floid


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Right, I forgot, being addicted to drugs removes your human rights


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Silly me


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he was killed for panicking and trying to flee the police car after being arrested at gun point for a counterfeit dollar bill


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] green_byte#1188
That's not the point here


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What is your point


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tell me what is your point


[25-Aug-20 02:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A man was slowly murdered for over eight minutes


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] green_byte#1188
And didn't he theaten to shoot a pregnant woman.


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that was a seperate incident and i beleive he did time for that


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
His point is you should always pack heat in the modern environment, as you don’t know who is going to attack you.


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A decade before he was brutally murdered with a prison sentence between it


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Arm the blm protesters


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he served his time for threatening a woman, that point is moot


[25-Aug-20 02:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
and green that was years ago,and doesn't change the fact that he was murdred


[25-Aug-20 02:19 AM] Opponent#3498
```rural internet access was a mistake```
imagine the current situation, only there's nowhere _'cheaper'_ to move and still expect to get any work at all.


[25-Aug-20 02:20 AM] Opponent#3498
so, nah. Global communications are a must. Formation of 'dont trust MSM and rely on your friends in a town of 10k where everyone knows everyone', now THAT was a fucking mistake.


[25-Aug-20 02:20 AM] green_byte#1188
> that was a seperate incident and i beleive he did time for that
@prism stryder(intexda) 
> and green that was years ago,and doesn't change the fact that he was murdred
@Gordon Freeman
 > A decade before he was brutally murdered with a prison sentence between it
@Teaspoon 
Ok. I thought it was the thing he got in trouble for


[25-Aug-20 02:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, he got executed by cops for a counterfeit bill


[25-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He allegedly paid for something with a fake $20 bill


[25-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Which merited 4 armed police dragging him out of his car and 3 of them sitting on him for over 8 minutes while he begged for his life


[25-Aug-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
while he had a panic attack


[25-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Remember, in the United States your life is worth less than a $20 bill


[25-Aug-20 02:24 AM] green_byte#1188
Ok that's not warranted.


[25-Aug-20 02:24 AM] green_byte#1188
You'd think he robbed a bank or something...


[25-Aug-20 02:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I think "panic attack" is the natural reaction to 4 armed thugs and murderers kidnapping you at gunpoint


[25-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much


[25-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technically what really broke the camels back was breonna taylor and several other incidents after floyd where cops just got off scott free with no punishment


[25-Aug-20 02:28 AM] green_byte#1188
And on related stuff local to me...


[25-Aug-20 02:28 AM] green_byte#1188
https://www.wdrb.com/news/kentucky-ag-daniel-cameron-says-there-will-not-be-an-announcement-on-breonna-taylor-investigation/article_31da61e8-e5af-11ea-af8d-3f3400bc4bd3.html

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Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron says there will not be an announcement o...
Despite reported rumors, Kentucky's attorney general said there will not be an announcement this week regarding his office's investigation into the death of Breonna Taylor.
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[25-Aug-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what especially didnt help calm things down was several cities facing a military style police coup and trying to shut their population down to silence dissent


[25-Aug-20 02:31 AM] green_byte#1188
the rioting isn't needed in the first place


[25-Aug-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rioting came after the police coup


[25-Aug-20 02:31 AM] green_byte#1188
That doesn't make sense


[25-Aug-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically police got violent with protestors and rioters used it as an excuse to get more violent


[25-Aug-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
rioting is a reactionary force, the mroe violence you inflict upon it, the worse it tends to get


[25-Aug-20 02:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in protest marches protestors actually shut down a lot of would be rioters who tried to start riots in the first place


[25-Aug-20 02:34 AM] green_byte#1188
And I don't think ther was any reason to shut down the protests


[25-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
To note, a lot of the early vandalism which spurred the narrative of "riots and looting" came from white supremacists and alt-righters


[25-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
That wanted to start shit and get their fantasized "race war" going


[25-Aug-20 02:39 AM] green_byte#1188
White surpremacisis.... Not something I expected to have happen in 2020...
Welcome to 2020....


[25-Aug-20 02:40 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, they've always been around. they just foudn a grand opportunity to cause soem much desired conflict


[25-Aug-20 02:40 AM] green_byte#1188
Honestly I didn't expect much to happen in 2020. But... Yeah....


[25-Aug-20 02:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;ve noticed all the bullshit starts to catch on fire right around election years


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[25-Aug-20 02:42 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't think that's relavent moose


[25-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are illegally streaming the conference that happened


[25-Aug-20 02:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s relevent to a different thing


[25-Aug-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but we did have a preview of all of this unrest in 2014-15 with the ferguson riots


[25-Aug-20 02:45 AM] green_byte#1188
Wildfires, a possible conflict that could have lead to war, a virus outbreak, murder hornets, a drug addict gets killed, riots, a drug dealer gets killed, a kid got shot.
Did I miss anything?
...
Why are 3 of those even Major events?


[25-Aug-20 02:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
drug dealer?


[25-Aug-20 02:46 AM] green_byte#1188
Of*


[25-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I didn't realize drug addicts or dealers were less human than others


[25-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Thanks for qualifying them


[25-Aug-20 02:48 AM] Teaspoon#9532
brb popping a cap into half the people in every bar near me for being drug addicts


[25-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the kid was killed by a black man which people tried to use as an excuse to blame BLM. which is sad because i;m pretty sure blm had nothing to do with it and the guy was arrested there was no need to protest


[25-Aug-20 02:49 AM] green_byte#1188
That's not what in saying at all  @Teaspoon


[25-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think he was just naming incidents


[25-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unsure who this drug dealer is though


[25-Aug-20 02:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Then why qualify them as anything other than people murdered


[25-Aug-20 02:52 AM] green_byte#1188
People get murdered all the time.
And cops kills people before.


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is that whenever cops kill a black person they tend to walk away free as a bird with no consequences


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
???


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Their question was, how was this one different.


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not even just black people


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They kill _anyone_ they want


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cops chould not have the power of execution period


[25-Aug-20 02:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
So long as they don't expect them to have money to give them problems


[25-Aug-20 02:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
white, black, hispanic, etc we have a real police murder squad problem in america


[25-Aug-20 02:57 AM] green_byte#1188
And my point is


[25-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Everyone knows once you commit crimes, you lose all rights and can never complain about anything ever happening to you


[25-Aug-20 02:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Scarlet letter


[25-Aug-20 02:58 AM] green_byte#1188
That I don't remember the last time a drug addict and drug dealer getting killed causing this much conflict before


[25-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Who cares about victimless crimes like that?


[25-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Opponent#3498
@green_byte you answered the question yourself. People wanted to light things up on the election year.


[25-Aug-20 02:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They were _people_ doing _nothing wrong_ murdered by _police_


[25-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They were addicted to drugs and did things bad in the past. That means murder.


[25-Aug-20 03:01 AM] green_byte#1188
@Opponent ?


[25-Aug-20 03:02 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump won, according to popular consensus, because of low voter turnout, right? It would be smart of the opposition to ensure turnout as high possible this time around.


[25-Aug-20 03:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter what they were, it matters how they died


[25-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
and what easier way to do that than give people something to be enraged about?


[25-Aug-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no oen looks at these people as "drug dealers" or "drug addicts" the people protesting saw lives snuffed out by police who never faced justice and were immune to the very laws they enforce


[25-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
shine a spotlight on a fact fitting the desired criteria, give people a reason to assemble. The street cops are trained like shit and will overreact, heating the public further. You only need that initial push.


[25-Aug-20 03:04 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no one thought george floyd was high on drugs until the police "autopsy" pushed that narrative


[25-Aug-20 03:05 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't think that's a lie


[25-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
blacks, as a symbol, represent Biden's side of the aisle. Police represent the current government, i.e. Trump. Pretty simple really.

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[25-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
it's probably not a lie, it's also entirely irrelevant. He's an icon in the eyes of public media, google up his funeral photos.


[25-Aug-20 03:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the point is they specifically pushed the drug thing to make it seem like he died by drug and not beign crushed by a knee for 8 solid minutes


[25-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
I've not seen anything like this ever, looked like King of UK died or smth


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he could have been on drugs for all we know, but that;s not what killed him


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] green_byte#1188
Honestly I trust statistics more.


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Nobody really wants Biden. They just don't want Trump.


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden can suck a dick, i jsut want trump gone


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] green_byte#1188
So. I'll lean more towards the autopsy


[25-Aug-20 03:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a private autopsy came back with different results than the police autopsy

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[25-Aug-20 03:09 AM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[25-Aug-20 03:09 AM] green_byte#1188
Proof?


[25-Aug-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
floyds family had a private autopsy done because they didnt trust the police autopsy

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[25-Aug-20 03:09 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yes, absolutely. You're voting against, for you there's the side of police brutality.


[25-Aug-20 03:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-independent-autopsy/index.html

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Independent autopsy and Minnesota officials say George Floyd's deat...
Medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden and Dr. Allecia Wilson found Floyd's manner of death to be homicide.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200527112315-03-george-floyd-super-tease.jpg


[25-Aug-20 03:10 AM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking: interesting


[25-Aug-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police have used autopsies to lie before after killing someone, so his family hired an independant autopsy to be preformed to get to the bottom of things

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[25-Aug-20 03:11 AM] green_byte#1188
Hmm...


[25-Aug-20 03:11 AM] green_byte#1188
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.


[25-Aug-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it makes it so the police dont face consequences


[25-Aug-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
say he was killed by drugs and you never have to face a homicide conviction


[25-Aug-20 03:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who;s going to stop you when you're the police. the police?

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[25-Aug-20 03:13 AM] green_byte#1188
I don't think that really how that works.


[25-Aug-20 03:16 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
It makes perfect sense.
Police does their own autopsy on person they killed
Doesn't trust findings and hire independant contractor to do one


[25-Aug-20 03:17 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
and gets different results


[25-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
imagine if independent autopsy found something else, loosely fitting into police narrative. Would you believe them?


[25-Aug-20 03:18 AM] Opponent#3498
or, better yet, would _the public_ believe them?


[25-Aug-20 03:19 AM] green_byte#1188
That doesn't make sense to me.
Why not have an independent party do the autopsy?


[25-Aug-20 03:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.


[25-Aug-20 03:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the same way police internal affairs is still run by police


[25-Aug-20 03:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
they did?...


[25-Aug-20 03:22 AM] Opponent#3498
because generally there's no conflict of interest. I assume the system was designed with a 'normal' mode of operation in mind.


[25-Aug-20 03:23 AM] green_byte#1188
Should be more careful about what kind of people join the force I guess.

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[25-Aug-20 03:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bit too late for that


[25-Aug-20 03:24 AM] green_byte#1188
Ehh...


[25-Aug-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the george floyd case the police cheif himself was a "bad cop" who actually tried to justify his murder, and then made a case about how the police union was the real victim in all this


[25-Aug-20 03:26 AM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[25-Aug-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'll see if i can find the speech video


[25-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Opponent#3498
'victim' is too strong of a word. But yeah, both Floyd (immesurably more valuable dead than alive) and those guys only became relevant because of looming elections.


[25-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't excuse them, but definitely didn't go how they imagined it would.


[25-Aug-20 03:30 AM] PwnyPony#6185
I think the major point was the pandemic lockdown. Nobody could avoid seeing it when they are all at home. Everyone was pretty much forced to see the injustice of it all.


[25-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Opponent#3498
yep. The media campaign was promising to be more effective than usual.


[25-Aug-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
effectively this


[25-Aug-20 03:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if things were "normal", there would have likely been the minniapolis protest and not much else


[25-Aug-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also bob kroll has said so many infamous things that finding a specific clip might take awhile


[25-Aug-20 03:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I was also wrong on his police position, he's the lieutenant/police union president


[25-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
I sure love it when people are shot in the back 7 times in a car full of kids but it's okay because 'he was no angel'


[25-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
every time lmao, you can be shot while sleeping and you're no angel so it's okay


[25-Aug-20 03:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can be shot while gaming with your gf over a noise complaint even if you're white


[25-Aug-20 03:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
because police think it's okay to perform a home invasion


[25-Aug-20 03:45 AM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[25-Aug-20 03:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's okay for blue lives to murder tho


[25-Aug-20 03:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
blue lives here beat the shit out of cool a dude who owns a book store because he was brown and and they had the wrong address, they were later acquitted of any crime


[25-Aug-20 03:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to mention all of the casually ignoring police domestic violence cases, the police found the police to be not guilty, lmao

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[25-Aug-20 03:47 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's worth noting that police accountability is a driving force not just as a thing that people want, but as a reason we even *know* half the things that go on anymore with police. It's not necessarily that the police have gotten more violent (which they have), it's also that they're leaving more of a trail of publicly-accessible evidence. Body cam footage and other videos of police brutality is popping up more and more, and some of the outrage is that some of the stories we're hearing of police brutality we're only learning *well after* the fact because the footage surfaced.


[25-Aug-20 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
we literally don't have access to the data, because police investigate the police and keep the evidence to the police.


[25-Aug-20 03:48 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Remember, witness testimony is generally not admissible evidence in court, but it is if you're a cop to the point that hard evidence to the contrary can be successfully argued against


[25-Aug-20 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's difficult to get bodycam footage with freedom of information requests both in australia and america


[25-Aug-20 03:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
they literally dodge and pivot away from justice because they are the law.


[25-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Ooh, McCloskeys are speaking


[25-Aug-20 03:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
the delay it as long as physically possible to delay any actual court proceedings.


[25-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"As evidence of a radical leftist takeover, Mark McCloskey said Cori Bush was a Marxist who led Black Lives Matter protests, and now she’s going to be a congresswoman representing St. Louis."


[25-Aug-20 03:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Cori Bush
Who?


[25-Aug-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
not to mention all the "equipment failures" of bodycams etc that mysteriously turn off just before an alleged incident, or cops taping over their badge numbers during the protests to "protect" the police


[25-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She beat a long-term incumbent in a safe blue district


[25-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She's basically Squad-level, if that explains anything


[25-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 the radical leftist. You know the one.


[25-Aug-20 03:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
She has a Bush surname


[25-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
:shrugpony:


[25-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Opponent#3498
there are some things we didn't know about ol' George apparently :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yet she's a Democratic Socialist


[25-Aug-20 03:52 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When the most milquetoast of social democracy is somehow evil totalitarian communism to you


[25-Aug-20 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, the RNC is literally just weird patriotic LARPing, it feels like a combination of like, I'm in a fever dream and I'm having a stroke from memetic kill agents


[25-Aug-20 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
like dems were cringe but this is a whole new level


[25-Aug-20 03:52 AM] Itsthinking#8251
RNC basically only has people "to own the libs"


[25-Aug-20 03:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
they all feel like paid actors, it's so fake.


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It would be like if the DNC invited Hogg, Greta Thunberg, etc


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not even like 'we have good policy here you go'
it's 'the left wants to do x any y', democrats are destroying this nation


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the best they can do.


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
it reminds me of live parliament house on the radio in australia, the right only attacks, but it cannot actually defend itself


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Opponent#3498
nation's under siege, rally around the flag etc.


[25-Aug-20 03:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the RNC speakers are Trumps immediate family


[25-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
only 'but no u' is their response to attacks.


[25-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
the RNC speakers are just paid actors high on coke saying 'dems bad'
but they are not suggesting anything they are actually doing that's good, only.


[25-Aug-20 03:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
Like, this is a joke, they cannot suggest any good policy, it's literally libs destroying america, dems bad.


[25-Aug-20 03:54 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's also worth noting that the suburbs the McCloskeys are talking about, at least in STL, are turning very blue.


[25-Aug-20 03:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s basically a projection fest


[25-Aug-20 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
at least dems had some milquetoast giving into the heavy demand for succdem reform

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[25-Aug-20 03:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
like the DNC was cringe but it had policy.
This has zero policy, it's fucking nothing but 'dems bad trump good making nation great'
how is he making nation great? a mystery


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Harris was more liberal than Sanders at times, progressives just hate her because prosecutor and "don't send your kid to school? go to jail" policy


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
are the mccloskeys the gun people fromt he private neighborhood?


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
God damn I wish the Democratic party remotely resembled the socialist fever-dream the RNC keeps describing it as


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is it projection if what you're actually trying to do is gaslight pre-emptively?


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes, they're the same


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yes, that;s exactly what projection is,. they;re airing their plans as if the democrats are going to execute them while executing it themselves


[25-Aug-20 03:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh yeah there was some girl with bone cancer who said 'I had bone cancer and the evil socialist dems who want medicare for all told me to just kill myself because I'd be a burden to the system and trump let me pay out of pocket for experimental treatments that may or may not make things worse despite the fact you'd be able to bankrupt yourself doing that with dems too?'

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[25-Aug-20 03:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
like, what? is this real? am I having a stroke?


[25-Aug-20 03:57 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[25-Aug-20 03:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
as if trump allowed her to take bone cancer treatments and somewhat less overpriced healthcare from dems would make her die


[25-Aug-20 03:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
like this is real, she said this.


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] green_byte#1188
Mmm. The main reason I never really talk here is nobody ever really seems to agree with what I said..


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
as if poor people wouldn't just die instead of letting their family have immense debt


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
we can't have affordable healthcare that'd be vuvuzela


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah this is so absurd, so far may only work on those who are already so brainwashed to the point where they support Trump in the first place


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
perhaps you could make some points that are reasonable and we can respond to them.


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The base and only the base, while Democrats are trying to build a wide tent


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the only real point you made was that the person murdered was a "drug addict"


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also, people aren't buying that Biden or Harris are socialists.


[25-Aug-20 03:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you like trump, you can do what the RNC isn't doing and explain why his policy is beneficial and which policy/


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not that we disagree with you on everything, it's that you seemed to be unaware of what's been going on that people are protesting


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
If you dislike democrat policy, you can express why and what policy, and that's a perfectly good argument.


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Let's suppose you're right about that. If he was a drug addict, what then? Does that make him less deserving of life than a non-drug addict?


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not like any of us like the dems.


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, to the point where it seemed like you were surprised that police lie on autopsy reports


[25-Aug-20 03:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
we're just stating straight 📠


[25-Aug-20 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
like, if you have facts to dispute them, we'll look at them and agree.


[25-Aug-20 04:00 AM] Opponent#3498
```the RNC speakers are just paid actors high on coke saying 'dems bad'```
it's a good life though, gotta give them that


[25-Aug-20 04:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, a couple years ago the long-time county coroner of my city got *fired* because it turns out he'd been serially forging autopsies


[25-Aug-20 04:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
we don't really care about feelings, we care about facts, and we value human life and generally think murder isn't a good response to a misdemeanor because it's not.


[25-Aug-20 04:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you murder people based on misdemeanors you set a very terrifyingly authoritarian premise.


[25-Aug-20 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
'criminals bad' is an argument entirely based on feelings, it doesn't offer a solution to criminality, it doesn't discuss what leads to criminality and how to prevent it.


[25-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
drugs shouldn't be a misdemeanor anyway

yes, drugs are bad, but decriminalize putting whatever shit you want in your own body


[25-Aug-20 04:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
criminals don't stop being human when they steal a pack of gum and some bread


[25-Aug-20 04:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn now they have some weird ass short film ad


[25-Aug-20 04:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"sorry sir, you've eaten too many pizzas and that's - according to science - *bad* for you. it's the hoosegow for you, criminal."


[25-Aug-20 04:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you can explain to us without using feelings like 'criminals bad and should be shot', because that goes against our ideas that human lives have value, and therefore lethal force is murder unless they're pointing a gun at you already.

though, police pointing guns at people and having lethal games of simon says shouldn't happen either, even if people aren't shot, pointing guns at people makes them very uncomfortable and I don't blame them for freaking out when guns are pointed at them.


[25-Aug-20 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
in australia, as bad as police still may be, they generally don't point loaded firearms at people when they feel a bit uncomfortable.


[25-Aug-20 04:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean even at the point of "these protesters are rioting!" - even if you put aside the people caught being false-flag firebrands and the literal physical distance between the peaceful BLM protests and the riots in Portland, we aren't likely to immediately demonize the rioters. We're more likely to step back and first ask, "okay, *why* are they rioting? Is it justified?" Because sometimes, throwing tea in the harbor and other vandalism is just *what you gotta do* when all other avenues fail


[25-Aug-20 04:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
they still have loaded firearms, but they don't point them at unarmed people generally.


[25-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
re: "the protesters are rioting"


[25-Aug-20 04:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and what we've been discovering when we ask that question is that a lot of the riots that have been declared are a result of the police kettling peaceful protesters and instigating it themselves


[25-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
This cartoon from 1967 shows that the more things change the more they stay the same.

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[25-Aug-20 04:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to mention the right wing extremists deliberately damaging and burning property and blaming it on blm lol, and attacking peaceful protestors, then the police intervene an make it worse.


[25-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The vilified Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement. Y'know, the thing BLM needs to be more like apparently.


[25-Aug-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
civil rights shit was only passed because he was murdered and then people rioted until shit changed.


[25-Aug-20 04:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or the black panther movement... cointelpro really did a number on rewriting history


[25-Aug-20 04:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
pressure matters, he's been mythologized into a super peaceful figure, but without the armed black panthers and other violent alternatives he wouldn't have meant shit.


[25-Aug-20 04:08 AM] dissociativity#8391
you need violence or the threat of violence to apply pressure, if cops can simply just gas and shoot you and no consequences happen, you're not going to have any real impact.


[25-Aug-20 04:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MLK was most hated man in America 1967


[25-Aug-20 04:09 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Conservatives point to a mythical version of MLK not out of admiration for the man, but to shut up people who are actually advocating for change.


[25-Aug-20 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
if union strikers were simply gassed and dealt with in non lethal ways, many strikes never would've ended without results, yet america has loved to send in the military or armed people to bomb and shoot striking miners and such historically.


[25-Aug-20 04:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's kind of amazing how much right-wing leaders and pundits say "x manner of protesting doesn't work" and then you look and find that it's the *only* manner that's worked in this country


[25-Aug-20 04:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
you think the battle of blair mountain happened because the strikers were violent communists hellbent on destroying america? lmao


[25-Aug-20 04:10 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
even simple stuff like name-calling people like Moscow Mitch. That's surprisingly effective at getting under the skin of people like moscow mitch


[25-Aug-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
no, they bombed and shot the shit out of striking miners because they dared strike and be armed.


[25-Aug-20 04:10 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Miners have pickaxes, and pickaxes can pierce body armor rather fast.


[25-Aug-20 04:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
and this has happened in many other future industrial actions.


[25-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
One of my favorite King quotes, *very* relevant to the people invoking his name to shut up protesters:

> The Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: **"I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"**; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a **"more convenient season." **Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.


[25-Aug-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
good.
maybe strikers should be listened to, they're the ones doing the work.


[25-Aug-20 04:11 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Simply have the miners go into the police line swinging like hell.


[25-Aug-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
but no, they were shot and bombed and didn't deserve human rights.


[25-Aug-20 04:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
2nd amendment doesn't mean shit.
the tyrannical government been here for ages.


[25-Aug-20 04:12 AM] Opponent#3498
do you people know why? Why does the white moderate say what they say and believe what they do? I wonder if the one who wrote that does/did*.


[25-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It sounds like you've got an idea. Hit me with it.


[25-Aug-20 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
the white moderate status quo warriors will do anything to prevent the change of status quo and paint anyone who dares upset it as nightmarish monsters, because their middle class ass feels threatened by filthy poors having a chance at life.


[25-Aug-20 04:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
"I worked myself to death for this lifestyle so everyone else should have spinal chord injuries if they want a good lifestyle"


[25-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also that'd be a "did" since that's the late Dr. King.


[25-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
the way I see it is very... simple in concept. They know what to do about the current situation, whatever they might be, how to survive in it, or live in it. They got shit to lose, basicly.


[25-Aug-20 04:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe productivity has increased significantly but wages have only stagnated, so people should be able to live comfortably on 20 hour work weeks and benefit from better technology instead of working harder and longer than families of the 50s.


[25-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
the people advocating for revolution generally do not. It can't really get any worse.


[25-Aug-20 04:15 AM] Opponent#3498
(or so they think anyway)


[25-Aug-20 04:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
these people are not asking for revolution lmao, they're asking to improve society somewhat and are being met with deaf ears who must be forced to hear.


[25-Aug-20 04:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
deaf ears who ignore horrific facts as they're the justified status quo.


[25-Aug-20 04:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
deaf ears who don't care about anyone's comfort but theirs.


[25-Aug-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well true, though asking for improvement sounds like revolution to those the system already benefits


[25-Aug-20 04:16 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Well, that's true. But so do white people who *do* join the revolution. What makes them decide to fight for equality and the moderate not, if both have a similar amount of station to lose by doing so?


[25-Aug-20 04:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
if this was about attacking white people, there wouldn't be so many white people actively supporting BLM.


[25-Aug-20 04:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
the right loves to lie and cheat and make shit up to preserve the status quo, moderates are not moderates, they never were.


[25-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Moderates exist, I just don't think they're particularly helpful.


[25-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I was a moderate once. It was definitely a transitionary period out of my conservatism.


[25-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Opponent#3498
stupidity? Strong convictions? Hell, peer pressure? I don't believe there's one answer, people who decide to break from the silent majority to take part in some form of action are too varied.


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
I was a contrarian centrist too, but later I realized I was ignoring and dismissing anyone left of obama and agreeing with the right almost exclusively lol


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm still on the gamergate blocklist on twitter afaik


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So the Cuban-American speaking is Maximo Alvarez


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
so you switched to the other extreme. Good times.


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Maximo Alvarez was born in Havana, Cuba in 1948, the son of Spanish immigrants. In 1961 at the age of 13, he came to America as part of Operation “Pedro Pan.”`


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Opponent#3498
genuinly wonder where you'll end up in a year.


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Peer pressure doesn't make sense to me.

The "safest" social position is to be apolitical. To avoid crossing anyone and not state your convictions, whatever they may be, publicly at all - much less actually get out and fight for them.

If I wanted everyone to like me, I'd just cultivate an image of some apolitical nice guy.


[25-Aug-20 04:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`Operation Pedro Pan (or Operación Pedro Pan) was a clandestine mass exodus of over 14,000 unaccompanied Cuban minors ages 6 to 18 to the United States over a two-year span from 1960 to 1962. They were sent by their parents who were alarmed by rumors circulating amongst Cuban families that the new government under Fidel Castro was planning to terminate parental rights, and place minors in communist indoctrination centers.`


[25-Aug-20 04:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, now I actually believe in something, I didn't before.


[25-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Man is victim of CIA-sponsored child trafficking because of paranoid parents; proud of it"


[25-Aug-20 04:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've been a staunch leftist for many years now.
I don't agree with a lot of edgier things I posted even a year ago mind you, I'm sure you've seen edgy screencaps mining me saltily for 3 years


[25-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano one word - facebook. Depending on your circumstances, sitting it out might not be an option at all, unless you're starting entirely from scratch societally for some reason.


[25-Aug-20 04:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've simply become more educated and more well read, and the more well read I get, the more staunch a leftist I am, I'm hardly flipflopping.


[25-Aug-20 04:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've become a more libertarian leftist than before but I'm hardly an ancomm lol.


[25-Aug-20 04:22 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm on Facebook. I also live in Louisiana, where many of my coworkers and acquaintances keep posting crazy QAnon conspiracy shit. The pressure around here *isn't* to be a leftist at all.


[25-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The "silent majority" is neither as far as I can see.


[25-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The majority here perhaps. Country-wide, no.


[25-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Opponent#3498
did you take part in any major local protests? _Were_ there any?


[25-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Mech, you know of the double hurricanes, right?


[25-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yes, Shreveport had BLM protests and they went well.


[25-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, I'm far enough north in Louisiana to be out of range.


[25-Aug-20 04:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m close to the coast


[25-Aug-20 04:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
Qanon shit has spread hard in australia due to quarantine


[25-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And I’m prepared to run or bunker down.


[25-Aug-20 04:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's genuinely dangerous and deranged shit, there's a group with like 20k people who believe in a variety of batshit conspiracies around covid to Q


[25-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
why does Australia care about Q anyway?


[25-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Opponent#3498
it's entirely irrelvant to them


[25-Aug-20 04:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
people are literally going stir crazy in quarantine and have no critical thinking skills because their life and hobbies are literally 'browse facebook, watch tv, go to work'


[25-Aug-20 04:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
and they believe boomer spread 'bill gates caused covid 19 and it also isn't a real virus #plandemic'


[25-Aug-20 04:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
and it escalates from there.


[25-Aug-20 04:27 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Our protests were peaceful and we had hundreds of people at them. People of all backgrounds came out; it was a community outpouring of love and support. Cops were there, we didn't get into any scrapes with them.

This is how the vast majority of BLM protests go, but the media keeps acting like the exceptional cases of rioting characterize the entire movement.


[25-Aug-20 04:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
the thing is 'go to work' previously was their biggest hobby taking up most of their free time, so now they have 'browse facebook, watch tv'


[25-Aug-20 04:28 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Which again, was also true of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement.


[25-Aug-20 04:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
disaffected people with no hobbies because work was their hobby and thus have no critical thinking skills are are a genuinely dangerous demographic.


[25-Aug-20 04:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
they lost work from covid and are stuck inside due to lockdown so they're just believing whatever they see and want to believe, because it makes life simple and easy, simple answers to complex questions.


[25-Aug-20 04:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's confirmation bias.


[25-Aug-20 04:30 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Also stay safe, Enforcer.


[25-Aug-20 04:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wish this specific demographic wasn't so common, lmao they could literally just play video games and not take facebook posters so seriously, but they're usually gen X and boomers and think video games are for kids


[25-Aug-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
millennial and gen z culture is usually being so disaffected by your parents being those 'watch tv, browse facebook, go to work' is entirely life lifestyles of your parents that you strive to be more than that, so while some may be like that, most are not.


[25-Aug-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
However it makes us more likely to be scooped up by fascism, 'the globalists/jews want us to be good worker drones'


[25-Aug-20 04:32 AM] Opponent#3498
that's probably because they do :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, 'the jews' are just ordinary random people, and globalization is inevitable under capitalism.


[25-Aug-20 04:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
unless you want european style import taxation/VAT, that's what you get.


[25-Aug-20 04:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
the european system is anti-globalization more than america ever could be.


[25-Aug-20 04:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
which is why there's still a decent amount of manufacturing in europe, confined to europe.


[25-Aug-20 04:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you fear 'globalists' you should probably also admire europe and it's 'anti-globalist' policy


[25-Aug-20 04:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
alas that would make too much sense for the right.


[25-Aug-20 04:38 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Welcome to Derpibooru's special coverage on the RNC!


[25-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
the issue is with drones more so than globalism for me.


[25-Aug-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, a bit silly to drone strike brown people then cry about immigrants


[25-Aug-20 04:38 AM] Opponent#3498
@LeafyWasNotHere someone gotta do it :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
noo we gotta stop terrorism by radicalizing bombed civilians into terrorism


[25-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
not quite those drones :P


[25-Aug-20 04:39 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
"Globalism" is such a weird ill-defined thing that I'm not sure what the right even means when they complain about it.

Like, I think sometimes they just mean Jews but surely not all the time.


[25-Aug-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, drone-like people with no critical thinking skills are why Q exists and is so prominent.


[25-Aug-20 04:40 AM] jlun2#8758
ah. the helicopter people


[25-Aug-20 04:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
the worst part is, they genuinely think they're thinking critically.


[25-Aug-20 04:41 AM] jlun2#8758
thats part of the DK effect, yes @dissociativity


[25-Aug-20 04:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking right now is two girls. Don't know their names


[25-Aug-20 04:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Reuters chat has two sides fighting


[25-Aug-20 04:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking right now: The man himself, Tim Scott!


[25-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tim thot


[25-Aug-20 04:47 AM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano dunno, maybe Hitler's 'jews can't build a nation, only destroy it' transformed into 'jews _can_ build a nation, but they want _the one_ nation for the world to rule over' or something.


[25-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
not the worst thing that could happen to us, objectively. We could get China with their 'karma points' system instead.


[25-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Y’all heard of Kenneth Copeland?


[25-Aug-20 04:49 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Tim Scott: "not look at what the candidates say, but what they have done"

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[25-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
remembering the list that got linked some time ago about '27 mighty deeds', this would just damn their cause even further :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 04:51 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Tim Scott discusses the Tax Reform Bill.


[25-Aug-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
'joe biden's radical democrats'


[25-Aug-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
'joe biden and kamala harris want a cultural revolution'
'they want a radical socialist future'


[25-Aug-20 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
you already do though, it's called a credit score.


[25-Aug-20 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
a credit score in america is practically social credits.


[25-Aug-20 04:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, it;s jsut debt based isntead of abiding citizen based


[25-Aug-20 04:54 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. It's _slightly_ better. It governs your economic side of life, instead of _all of it_.


[25-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The American version of "social credit score" is just "other people being allowed to have an opinion about what you think"


[25-Aug-20 04:55 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The RNC has ended.


[25-Aug-20 04:55 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah It's, the FB bullshit is indeed oppressive.


[25-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Cancel culture" is getting your future destroyed by a tweet from 2010


[25-Aug-20 04:56 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not saying a controversial opinion now and people getting mad


[25-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Itsthinking#8251
What a lot of people seem to want is to make it so people can't ever get mad at anything people say


[25-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
kind of lowkey reminds me of 30ies of USSR.


[25-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Opponent#3498
'he supported the controversial idea 15 years ago. He's tainted. Shoot him and send the family to the camps.'


[25-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The way I put it is "Snitching isn't illegal"


[25-Aug-20 04:58 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I don't think people who snoop back that far for dirt are taken seriously tho


[25-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Right, yeah. You aren't being "cancelled" if you said something hateful *today* and got deserved blowback from it


[25-Aug-20 05:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I agree with not digging up peoples' past statements. That may not be who they are anymore.


[25-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
If you have the right to say "I don't like black people" then people have the right to say they don't like *you.*


[25-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Cancel culture" got degraded into being "people criticized my stance"


[25-Aug-20 05:01 AM] jlun2#8758
> he supported the controversial idea 15 years ago. He's tainted. Shoot him and send the family to the camps
nowadays it's twitter jail :twiright:


[25-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like how "virtue signaling" became "he publicly supports anything ever"


[25-Aug-20 05:01 AM] jlun2#8758
just vote tbh pls :ts_cry:
i know for certain the youngsters virtue signalling wont vote


[25-Aug-20 05:02 AM] Opponent#3498
usually the fb support _is_ fishing for brownie points, pure virtue signalling


[25-Aug-20 05:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Donald Trump did not appear on stage at all on Night 1.


[25-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How do you know that?


[25-Aug-20 05:03 AM] Opponent#3498
but, yes. Please vote? Trump out the office matters. ~~More than good ol' Floyd did tbh~~


[25-Aug-20 05:03 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
From what I remember.


[25-Aug-20 05:04 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
How do you know peoples' motivations for posting things?

It could be to make the people they're expressing support for feel less alone. Like they've got someone in their corner. I think that, for a member of a group that's being discriminated against, hearing public voices of support can be really reassuring.


[25-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Opponent#3498
@Dr. Mechano because it's a default response. Everyone has their own thing and an individual's mind is sometimes unknowable; but virtue signalling is a _trend_. A stereotype.


[25-Aug-20 05:05 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Because the other side is going to signal *their* virtues whether we do or not. And if we don't, then all anyone's going to see is a bunch of posts about how shitty black and gay and trans people are.


[25-Aug-20 05:06 AM] Opponent#3498
oh absolutely. I'm not saying not to do it. I'm saying not to take people doing it too seriously.


[25-Aug-20 05:07 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Just speaking personally, I can tell you that's my motivation, at least. I post about these things because I think it can do good.

It's not a replacement for actual protesting or advocacy or voting, but it supplements those things.


[25-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Opponent#3498
way back I read this nice piece about the life of generic office worker... Come to work on Monday, brew some coffee, read the twitter trending, reblog the picture of a lit candle, one of flowers and today's government boilerplate of 'we're very sorry' for whatever happened during the weekend, and promtly forget about it, mission accomplished.


[25-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Opponent#3498
I think this specific one was after Paris nightclub attack, but the idea didn't change since then.


[25-Aug-20 05:16 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
What episode title can describe tonight's RNC night?


[25-Aug-20 05:19 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Fake It 'Til You Make It"


[25-Aug-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well i know what sitcom title you can apply to it


[25-Aug-20 05:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
All in the family


[25-Aug-20 05:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Aug-20 05:49 AM] Opponent#3498
there can actually be a method to this.


[25-Aug-20 05:51 AM] Opponent#3498
I've pitched an idea once, on a different server, that the best way to discredit a potentially dangerous idea is to have someone with established poor reputation to champion it.


[25-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Opponent#3498
but instead of a person, it can be a provably false instance of a topic.


[25-Aug-20 05:52 AM] Phelan#7647
>ICE is a child sex trafficking conspiracy
Yea sure Alex Jones.


[25-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
which would first championed loudly, then loudly debunked, and so the next time people hear about it, they'll go 'oh it's this shit again pls stop'


[25-Aug-20 05:53 AM] Opponent#3498
interestingly enough, a person with shitty rep I took as an example then _was_ Alex Jones :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, ICE agents have been fucking the inmates


[25-Aug-20 06:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8328199/ICE-agents-paid-received-17-sexual-acts-masseuses-human-trafficking-probe.html
proof weebs were a mistake

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ICE agents paid for and received 17 sexual acts from 'masseuses'
The investigation-dubbed 'Operation Asian Touch'- saw federal agents pay for and receive at least 17 sexual acts from 'Asian females' working in eight different massage parlours in Mohave County in 2018.
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[25-Aug-20 06:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
>noo we must protect these people from sex trafficking, by sex trafficking them


[25-Aug-20 06:09 AM] Opponent#3498
welp, at least hopefully they were compensated reasonably well.


[25-Aug-20 06:12 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, that's fucked up, but it's not a conspiracy.


[25-Aug-20 06:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
aren't they fucking central and south american inmates there tho?


[25-Aug-20 06:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm 95% sure I've heard reports on that


[25-Aug-20 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.propublica.org/article/ice-guards-systematically-sexually-assault-detainees-in-an-el-paso-detention-center-lawyers-say

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Allegations include guards attacking victims in camera “blind spots” and telling them that “no one would believe” them in ICE detention centers, which imprison about 50,000 immigrants each year at a taxpayer expense of $2.7 billion.
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[25-Aug-20 06:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
if they're being deported they can hardly easily prosecute you


[25-Aug-20 06:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If everyone is acting corruptly out of their own self-interest and rally around the same lies and cover for each other because they know they'd go down too...and if that lie is "just following orders,"


[25-Aug-20 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is that *really* a conspiracy? Like, legally, I don't think total systemic corruption counts as conspiracy because no agreement is established


[25-Aug-20 06:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And, if not, then what is it, and how do we handle it, 'cause if this administration has shown us anything it's that the constitution really didn't consider the possibility of total systemic failure


[25-Aug-20 06:35 AM] byte[]#2610
> usually the fb support is fishing for brownie points, pure virtue signalling
something curious is that I recently saw a large outpouring of reported virtue signaling from a place that has no virtue to speak of


[25-Aug-20 06:36 AM] byte[]#2610
4chan's (or at least /tv/'s) response to the netflix adaptation of cuties


[25-Aug-20 06:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, Q is a full on conspiracy, this is just abusive people abusing their power in a corrupt system.


[25-Aug-20 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally everyone I know of thinks netflix cuties promotional image/poster thing is cringe and knows it doesn't represent the actual show which is much more nuanced and based on a real life experience of someone


[25-Aug-20 06:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
netflix's marketing team who approved it should naturally be fired and everyone agrees with this


[25-Aug-20 06:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it's not really controversial because everyone (except maybe right-libertarians 'what if the child consents tho' maybe) thinks it's cringe


[25-Aug-20 06:43 AM] byte[]#2610
purple libright: what do you mean this is wrong


[25-Aug-20 06:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/g3gw8e/yellow_vs_purple_libright_know_the_difference/

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[25-Aug-20 07:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think I have too many brain cells to understand this meme


[25-Aug-20 07:30 AM] Crow#5457
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[25-Aug-20 07:52 AM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1297784110719463424?s=19

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[25-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
trump is massively incompetent, yes


[25-Aug-20 07:56 AM] Crow#5457
that is typically considered a valid reason to vote against someone


[25-Aug-20 07:57 AM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

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Richard B. Spencer
Richard Bertrand Spencer (born 1978) is an American neo-Nazi, anti-semitic conspiracy theorist and white supremacist who is known for his activism on behalf of the alt-right movement in 2016 and 2017. Spencer calls for the reconstitution of the European Union into a white raci...
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[25-Aug-20 07:58 AM] Crow#5457
> After Donald Trump was elected President, Spencer urged his supporters to "party like it's 1933," the year Hitler came to power in Germany. In the weeks following, Spencer quoted Nazi propaganda and denounced Jews. At a conference Spencer held celebrating the election, Spencer cried: "Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!"; subsequently Mike Enoch led a number of Spencer's supporters in performing a Nazi salute and a chant similar to the Sieg Heil chant.


[25-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, yikes.


[25-Aug-20 08:05 AM] Opponent#3498
he's smart, too, smart enough to know when to switch sides.


[25-Aug-20 09:25 AM] Audrey#7852
(General Question) Do anyone knows a MLP specific Politics discussion Discord Group?


[25-Aug-20 09:27 AM] Audrey#7852
Or Furry-friendly? I'm thinking of writing on how the Alt Right will use memes and fandoms to influence youth


[25-Aug-20 11:15 AM] Opponent#3498
that escalated quickly :P


[25-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
wha...


[25-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.westernslopenow.com/news/local-news/new-mail-sorting-machine-at-grand-junction-usps-thrown-out/amp/

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New mail sorting machine at Grand Junction USPS annex thrown out
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. — A KREX 5/Fox 4 viewer noticed something interesting being thrown out at a local United States Postal Service Distribution Center Friday. A facility employee says its a…
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[25-Aug-20 01:42 PM] Crow#5457
> The clerk added, “it took two months to set up and they were just about to do a test run when the postmaster general ordered us to take it out, now we’re sorting by hand. No wonder they say we’re losing money when they throw out expensive machines like that.”


[25-Aug-20 01:42 PM] Crow#5457
god, this administration is such a shitshow


[25-Aug-20 02:23 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Yet another black man shot in America. This time it's a guy from Kenosha, Wisconsin.


[25-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that one's already gone through the initial cycle of "hE dIdN't CoMpLy, DeAtH sEnTeNcE dEsErVeD"


[25-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
when you can clearly see in the video the officer who shot him 7 times in the back had the perfect opportunity to grab and restrain him, yet chose to pull at his shirt a bit


[25-Aug-20 02:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I thought he was leading him to the car door and using the shirt to keep him from bolting tbh


[25-Aug-20 03:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-delaying-zaghari-ratcliffe-release-efforts-donald-trump-lawyers-say-2020-8

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The UK is delaying a deal with Iran to release Nazanin Zaghari-Ratc...
Lawyers representing Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe have accused the UK government of avoiding paying debts that would secure her release.
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[25-Aug-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/four-years-later-republican-senators-admit-yes-trump-conspired-with-the-russians/

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Four years later Republican senators admit, ‘yes, Trump conspired w...
It’s a red-letter, if sad, day on the hypocrisy beat when after three years a Republican-majority Senate Intelligence Committee comes out with a 1,000-page report finding there was a whole lot of direct contact between the Trump 2016 campaign with Russian intelligence operator...
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[25-Aug-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/rajat_suresh/status/1297990085355409408?s=20

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police: we have shot another black man for no reason so you have to go to bed at 8pm now or we will beat the shit out of you

me: thank you officer
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[25-Aug-20 03:40 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1298114294010253312

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Rioters argue with business owner that burning down the city is okay because they “paid for that”

Video via @ShelbyTalcott 

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[25-Aug-20 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/24/usps-dejoy-says-he-doesnt-know-how-many-people-voted-mail-2016/5625192002/

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Postmaster General Louis DeJoy: 'I'll submit that I know very littl...
"I'll submit that I know very little about a postage stamp," Postmaster General Louis DeJoy said when asked about postage rates for a greeting card.
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[25-Aug-20 04:08 PM] byte[]#2610
Among other things...


[25-Aug-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/social-security-payroll-tax-cut-depleted-trump-eliminating-effect-fund-2020-8

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Social Security could be depleted by 2023 if Trump eliminates the p...
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[25-Aug-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/sainthoax/status/1298276175748509696?s=21

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WAP: Weak Ass President https://t.co/MMS7WWfP6M
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[25-Aug-20 05:15 PM] illumnious#7938
America y’all need help

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[25-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wow, that last speaker felt so fake


[25-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I imagine she was screaming into a camera and an otherwise empty room or something


[25-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Phelan#7647
https://twitter.com/AGuyNamedShaner/status/1298124204622127105?s=19

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That Guy Shane (@AGuyNamedShaner)
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@selfdeclaredref They were literally told to get out nearly an hour ago. It’s on film. Why the fuck didn’t they listen
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[25-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Phelan#7647
Dude is defending burning down occupied buildings cause "they were warned"


[25-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/US/black-man-shot-police-wisconsin-paralyzed-father/story


[25-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> ABC News has independently confirmed that Blake is paralyzed from the waist down.


[25-Aug-20 05:47 PM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1298283960494063616?s=21

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Beautiful Maine Lobsters will now move tariff-free to Europe! For first time in many years. GREAT new deal by USTR levels playing field with Canada. Millions of $’s more in EXPORTS...
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[25-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
so, who's burning down buildings occupied by who this time?


[25-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Phelan#7647
Apparently the buildings were occupied by the families that lived there.


[25-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Crow#5457
@Teaspoon, link doesn't work


[25-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/father-black-wisconsin-man-shot-police-paralyzed-72594077

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Jacob Blake's dad says son left paralyzed by police shooting
The father of Jacob Blake, a Black man shot multiple times, apparently in the back, by police in Wisconsin, is paralyzed from the waist down
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_6d822ba6d8384753a857da6ce3eff2f5_16x9_992.jpg


[25-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Opponent#3498
well, this would be a great opportunity to defend your home. Although I guess they didn't really believe people would go through with the burning of an apartment complex.


[25-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit lmao https://twitter.com/Trump_owo/status/1298283982895939585

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@realDonaldTrump Beautifuw Maine Wobstews wiww now move tawiff-fwee to Euwope! Fow fiwst time in many yeaws. GWEAT new deaw by USTW wevews pwaying fiewd with Canada. Miwwions of $’s mowe in EXPORTS...
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[25-Aug-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Aug-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
Persecution complex


[25-Aug-20 06:49 PM] byte[]#2610
> Lying down in a grimy parking lot to own the libs


[25-Aug-20 06:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[25-Aug-20 07:03 PM] jlun2#8758
"hey someone's unconscious. lets post it on twitter first!"


[25-Aug-20 07:04 PM] Phelan#7647
I mean, I've seen it.


[25-Aug-20 07:05 PM] Phelan#7647
"let's record instead of helping"


[25-Aug-20 07:06 PM] byte[]#2610
It's fake as shit


[25-Aug-20 07:06 PM] jlun2#8758
that too


[25-Aug-20 07:17 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, not saying it's not fake as shit, just voicing my displeasure with those types of people (that just record instead of helping) as a whole.

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[25-Aug-20 07:24 PM] Crow#5457
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[25-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Opponent#3498
being informed is overrated, but so is the will to live


[25-Aug-20 07:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok doomer


[25-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/SaintHoax/status/1297914199293788162

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https://twitter.com/SaintHoax/status/1297914199293788162
And this is how a cop treats a white man who’s actually resisting arrest. 

#BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/yNlONjq4o3
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[25-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
so uh


[25-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[25-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
kenosha police will literally let a white man walk all over them


[25-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
while using a tazer


[25-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
instead of a gun


[25-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheAvgBlackMan/status/1297861867038216193

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@Yamiche For anyone defending the @KenoshaPolice shooting of Jason Blake, here’s Kenosha cops when a white man resists:
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[25-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Crow#5457
original tweet


[25-Aug-20 08:10 PM] byte[]#2610
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[25-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.kcra.com/article/on-video-suspect-chases-deputy-rams-into-patrol-car-in-san-joaquin-county/12790579

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VIDEO: Suspect chases San Joaquin Co. deputy, rams into patrol car
Suspect arrested after leading deputies on chase
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[25-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the difference is that this is a county sheriff deputy, not a kenosha PD officer


[25-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US policing is _fun_


[25-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have sheriff, county police, city police, state police all covering the same areas


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
also, that tweet itself is a lie


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
this is in california too


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
yeah


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
it's fake


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
well, disinformation


[25-Aug-20 08:15 PM] byte[]#2610
the DNC convention _was_ fact checked in real time


[25-Aug-20 08:16 PM] byte[]#2610
and it was found to not really contain any lies lol


[25-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, a trump supporter in another server is like "idc where this happened, that officer should've SHOT THAT MAN", just going absolutely bananas over the fact that the person wasn't shot when he "should've" been


[25-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
@byte[], is there a source for the DNC convention being fact checked in real time? I have some trumpanzees I need to link that to


[25-Aug-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
lots of fact checks popping up on google, but nothing about real time fact checks


[25-Aug-20 08:23 PM] byte[]#2610
can't find the one I saw a few days ago


[25-Aug-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1686,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_320/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1598329625/200824-nelson-diversity-night-tease_soo4wi

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[25-Aug-20 08:30 PM] byte[]#2610
charlie kirk's face actually _is_ small, wtf lmao, that's not an edited photo


[25-Aug-20 08:33 PM] jimm#1439

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[25-Aug-20 08:33 PM] byte[]#2610
reposti


[25-Aug-20 09:04 PM] jlun2#8758
that sounds fetishy


[25-Aug-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
the artist has almost certainly drawn lewds


[25-Aug-20 09:05 PM] byte[]#2610
maybe not of joe biden specifically :twismug:


[25-Aug-20 09:19 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/happyroadkill/status/1298072600694972421?s=21

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idk why there isnt more DNC x RNC fanart
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[25-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/i/status/1298329867088547841

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SHOCK: Hillary Clinton, the woman who never conceded to President Trump, says Biden “should not concede under any circumstances.”

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[25-Aug-20 09:22 PM] byte[]#2610
... he should concede if he loses


[25-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I think the idea is that there's no way in her mind that justifies conceding early b/c mail-in


[25-Aug-20 09:30 PM] jlun2#8758
> Shock
:inkyhuh:


[25-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The 2020 shitshow's only just begun, all this was just a preamble :depressed:


[25-Aug-20 09:49 PM] jlun2#8758
2021


[25-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jerry-falwell-jr-resigns-president-liberty-university-reports-say-n1237886

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Jerry Falwell Jr. resigns as Liberty University president after acc...
The school placed Falwell on an indefinite leave of absence on Aug. 7 after a series of scandals.
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[25-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
> Jerry Falwell Jr. resigns as Liberty University president after accusations that he participated in a partner's affair with his wife
I guess the whole "conservatives calling everyone cucks" has a pinch of projection...


[25-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/diplomats-aghast-pompeo-set-address-gop-convention-jerusalem-n1237956

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Diplomats aghast as Pompeo set to address RNC from Jerusalem
"It's all just shredding the Hatch Act," a current State Department official says of Pompeo's speech.
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[25-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Crow#5457
sounds more like swinging than cucking


[25-Aug-20 11:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"It's only swinging if it's your idea. (The other party doesn't get to decide what it is)" - conservative swingers


[26-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Troydiscospider/status/1298270469372563463?s=19

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here's jim watkins. he's a p*dophile fuckhead who owns 8chan and lives in the phillipines raising pigs and probably doing p*dophile shit. 

he is also, verifiably, Q.
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[26-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Is he running for office or something


[26-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because I could def. believe that


[26-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait, people believe he's the "head" of qanon?


[26-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I guess?


[26-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
8chan is a QAnon board now, I think this guy just runs it


[26-Aug-20 12:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the heck is going on with his neck fold? It's like halfway between McConnell's turtle neck and a double chin.


[26-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Rapid weight loss


[26-Aug-20 12:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean there's clearly a lot more to worry about with this guy but I can't quit looking at it


[26-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why is a 1970s time traveler running 8chan?


[26-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Was probably fairly heavy and pulled some crash diet, usually results in that sort of thing as the body can't recede fast enough and eventually just doesn't


[26-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well in 1970 the age of consent was...


[26-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(I actually don't know what it was, I feel that researching that sort of stuff is a good way to land on a list)


[26-Aug-20 12:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or got gastric bypass


[26-Aug-20 12:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/rnc-speaker-condones-police-racially-profiling-her-biracial-son-2020-8

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Johnson said it "doesn't actually make me angry" that a police officer "would be more careful around my brown son than my white son."
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[26-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why does she look like a Chucky doll


[26-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/FireinFreetown/status/1279465834612756480/photo/1

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Elle (@FireinFreetown)
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Holy shit
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[26-Aug-20 12:25 AM] byte[]#2610
if only the rest of the posts of FireinFreetown's twitter were like that


[26-Aug-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
e.g. RT this https://twitter.com/annie_e_white/status/1298275683827773440

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@ztsamudzi Thank you for sharing. I am a member of The Whitney (lowest tier, but still $$$) and am appalled by this. I also encourage all members demand just compensation or not continue your membership. I’ve sent an email, and happy to share the text via DM if anyone would l...
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[26-Aug-20 12:26 AM] byte[]#2610
which is utter fucking lunacy


[26-Aug-20 12:28 AM] byte[]#2610
tl;dr:
art group: we made a fundraiser for black artists which we are going to auction off and donate proceeds to antiracist charities
twitter: no you didn't do it right, you're getting cancelled


[26-Aug-20 12:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://babylonbee.com/news/gavin-newsom-assures-californians-wildfires-are-mostly-peaceful

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Gavin Newsom Assures Californians Wildfires Are 'Mostly Peaceful'
SACRAMENTO, CA—While many Californians are growing increasingly worried about the wildfires spreading throughout the state, Governor Gavin Newsom assured everyone that the fires are actually "mostly peaceful.""The fires are mostly peaceful, mostly calm -- nothing to worry abou...
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[26-Aug-20 12:43 AM] byte[]#2610
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513536-chris-wallace-this-isnt-the-gop-convention-its-really-the-trump-convention

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Chris Wallace: This isn't the GOP convention, 'it's really the Trum...
Chris Wallace dubbed the Republican National Convention "the Trump convention," saying it will be dominated by the president and his family.
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[26-Aug-20 12:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1298308264816517120

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A bunch of white people berating and intimidating a random civilian for not giving the black power salute is the current BLM riots in a nutshell. 

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[26-Aug-20 12:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey quick question how did this "random civilian" end up seated in the middle of this


[26-Aug-20 12:45 AM] >That Guy#3386
Was chilling there before it started?


[26-Aug-20 12:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, something had to have happened here for the whole crowd to be training cameras on this interaction


[26-Aug-20 12:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I find it pretty unbelievable that someone could be chilling there and suddenly this entire protest jumps out and fills the street around her just to intimidate her


[26-Aug-20 12:51 AM] >That Guy#3386
Well she got there somehow.


[26-Aug-20 12:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
I didn't imply the crowd was there just to intimidate her.


[26-Aug-20 12:52 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[26-Aug-20 12:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and also, from a seated position, got people 30 feet away looking in her direction. If this *wasn't* just to intimidate her, then what happened?


[26-Aug-20 12:53 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't know.


[26-Aug-20 12:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Then I don't know either. And neither does the person who captioned that tweet.


[26-Aug-20 12:54 AM] >That Guy#3386
Maybe.


[26-Aug-20 12:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It might be clearer if I could tell what they're chanting before "no justice, no peace"


[26-Aug-20 12:56 AM] >That Guy#3386
Probably some slogan.


[26-Aug-20 12:58 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm gonna be stuck in this country until I die if the inevitable happens, aren't I


[26-Aug-20 12:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
Inevitable what?


[26-Aug-20 12:59 AM] byte[]#2610
trump cheats, "wins" the election, no further measures are taken against the spread of covid, it kills millions and millions, other countries stay immigration restrictions on US travelers, I can't leave


[26-Aug-20 01:00 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The Republicans always cheat via gerrymandering. It's just usually not on the scale of "attempt to destroy the post office"


[26-Aug-20 01:00 AM] >That Guy#3386
Both parties gerrymander.
Republicans just have an advantage in doing so because Democrats are naturally clustered in urban areas.


[26-Aug-20 01:02 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
It should be illegal and banned then. Quit letting people draw these arbitrary funky district boundaries and just base it on existing things like counties.


[26-Aug-20 01:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
One person, one vote. It’s not unfair


[26-Aug-20 01:07 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
States can be allowed to handle local affairs on their own autonomously, i agree, but the electoral college as it is is just fucked up on a significant level


[26-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
>when people say gerrymander as "Jerry-mander"


[26-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If only it were spelled "Garymander," people would pronounce it correctly


[26-Aug-20 01:09 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
English should be more phonetically consistent, jesus


[26-Aug-20 01:10 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Yeah, electoral college is bad news.

I have a feeling that once Florida goes blue more than one time in a row, or once Texas goes blue *ever,* Republicans will suddenly change their tune and demand we get rid of the EC. (And should that time come, we should let them.)


[26-Aug-20 01:11 AM] >That Guy#3386
The tragedy of policy is that only the winners get to change the system, and nobody wants to change a system they're winning in.

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[26-Aug-20 01:11 AM] byte[]#2610
it is actually pronounced "jerrymander" (even though the guy's name was pronounced Gary)


[26-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
```(I actually don't know what it was, I feel that researching that sort of stuff is a good way to land on a list)```
this in and of itself is telling about how it is, living in the West :D


[26-Aug-20 01:13 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm actually more concerned about the lists compiled by private corporations datamining me than what the government knows


[26-Aug-20 01:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I feel like the entire r/peopleliveincities subreddit exists just to be willfully ignorant of the effects of gerrymandering and how skewed the representation is of non-urban centers


[26-Aug-20 01:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
like, sometimes yes the maps are in fact just population density by any other name, but other times you see stuff like this pop up there

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[26-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
r/peopleliveincities?


[26-Aug-20 01:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> A place for maps, datasets and memes that are said to represent something else but really just demonstrate the fact that metropolitan areas have higher population densities than rural areas.


[26-Aug-20 01:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think that there map I just linked from that subreddit is demonstrating a *bit* more than that


[26-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's very strange, the people I often see romanticizing rural America basically live in either suburbs or urban areas


[26-Aug-20 01:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I feel like none of these people actually understand what rural America is like.


[26-Aug-20 01:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that wasn't really where I was going with that; I'm not talking about people who romanticize rural areas so much as people who discredit the importance of urban ones


[26-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I've lived in both and vastly prefer urban areas - but with the caveat that I like smaller-to-medium sized urban areas. Urban enough to have actual places to go, but not so huge that traffic's a nightmare and it takes forever to get across town. Miss me with those six-lane highways.


[26-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's less discrediting and more an active resentment/dislike of them.


[26-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I think political beliefs are skewed way more on an urban-to-rural axis than they are on a northern-to-southern one, also.

I live in red-state Louisiana, but Shreveport's a fairly liberal city that already had LGBT nondiscrimination laws before the state/country did, and it's even seriously discussing a UBI test run.

Meanwhile little country towns up north can be just as conservative as any little town in the Bible Belt. I think it's as simple as cities = more diverse populations = people forced to live among those different than them and ergo prejudices are (while not nonexistent by any means) less pronounced.


[26-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Blue islands exist, red islands generally do not.


[26-Aug-20 01:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also of course.


[26-Aug-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Aug-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Aug-20 01:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/513645-jacob-blake-attorneys-announce-civil-suit-in-shooting

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Blake family launching civil suit against Wisconsin police department
Lawyers representing the family of Jacob Blake, the Black man shot in the back at point-blank range by police in Kenosha, Wis., announced that a civil suit would be launched against the Kenosha Police Department.
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[26-Aug-20 01:38 AM] byte[]#2610
qualified immunity


[26-Aug-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:depressed:


[26-Aug-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/513643-cdc-warns-employees-not-to-argue-with-anti-mask-customers

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CDC warns employees not to argue with anti-mask customers
Retail and service industry workers should not argue with anti-maskers, according to updated guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
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[26-Aug-20 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, it’s pointless anyway, so...


[26-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
No, they shouldn't argue


[26-Aug-20 01:49 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They should just kick them out


[26-Aug-20 01:50 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking is it bad that "rural" makes me think of backwards hilibilies & incest


[26-Aug-20 01:51 AM] byte[]#2610
"backwards hillbillies" compromise a great number of people living in rural environments


[26-Aug-20 01:58 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Employees should, Kick them out if they refuse to comply, and really, if they make a fuss about it and try to get physical, they should be allowed to beat the crap out of them, no strings attached


[26-Aug-20 01:59 AM] byte[]#2610
best to limit physical contact with someone who is infected with high probability


[26-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/513658-kanye-west-makes-it-on-the-ballot-in-minnesota

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Kanye West makes it on the ballot in Minnesota
Rapper Kanye West has officially secured a spot on the presidential ballot in Minnesota this November as a third-party candidate.
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[26-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wonder how this will pan out


[26-Aug-20 02:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He's got like 6% among Gen Z


[26-Aug-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He’ll only get votes in the western counties of each state

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[26-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/513596-will-joe-biden-play-politics-when-it-comes-to-supreme-court-choices

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Will Joe Biden play politics when it comes to Supreme Court choices?
Voters must select the candidate who ensures checks and balances.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe_03122020getty.jpg


[26-Aug-20 02:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yes. Why would any modern president not do so?


[26-Aug-20 02:10 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1298411695212310528?s=21

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GOP convention speaker shared — then deleted —an anti-Semitic QAnon conspiracy on Twitter https://t.co/tEieP18cdf
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[26-Aug-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1298337077432647680?s=20

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https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1298337077432647680?s=20
It’s so terrifying knowing that this will make our president madder than the 1,000 people who died from COVID on Monday will. https://t.co/2KSGgfl0tA
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[26-Aug-20 02:25 AM] jlun2#8758
do i want to know what "this" is?


[26-Aug-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dnc vs rnc first night ratings


[26-Aug-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the DNC had a huge ratings lead over the RNC in the first night


[26-Aug-20 02:30 AM] jlun2#8758
1000 deaths - "who the hell are those dumb libs"
ratings in a show YOU are in - "holy shit im not popular 😢 "


[26-Aug-20 02:31 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Ratings for Four Nights at Donald Trump's Night 1: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/republican-national-convention-tv-ratings-night-1-early-look-at-broadcast.html

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[26-Aug-20 02:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also people are theorizing that donald jr. and  another apeaker, "My parents were puerto rican immigrants" were coked out of their fucking minds when doing their speeches based on eye and face movements


[26-Aug-20 02:33 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Welcome back to Derpibooru's special coverage on the RNC!


[26-Aug-20 02:34 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking right now: Pastor Norma Urrabazo of the International Church of Las Vegas.


[26-Aug-20 02:36 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Norma: "The best has yet to come for America"

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[26-Aug-20 02:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Reuters closed their f*cking chat lol


[26-Aug-20 02:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking now: The man himself!


[26-Aug-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Aug-20 02:52 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Rand Paul: "First president to end wars than to start one"


[26-Aug-20 03:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Who are these people


[26-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
“Statistically, my brown son is more likely to commit a violent offense over my white sons"- RNC speaker


[26-Aug-20 03:03 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I would not be surprised if Kanye West turns up in the con


[26-Aug-20 03:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was rumored he would


[26-Aug-20 03:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If a giant asteroid were to suddenly fall out of the sky on Charlotte...does the secret service have a contingency plan for that? 'Cause concentrating this much cosmic stupidity in one place has to be bad for the universe


[26-Aug-20 03:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Last two days made me realize that they really don't get Obama-Trump voters got them the WH right


[26-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Like it isn't the people who love seeing someone who tweeted about the Protocols or saying her black son should be discriminated against


[26-Aug-20 03:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At this point I'm kinda looking at this the same way I looked at the impeachment trial in the Senate. They're acting like the result is a foregone conclusion 'cause they've got the strategy to ignore the way things are supposed to work in the bag, and so the whole affair is just to put on a song and dance for their base to *convince* them that they're doing things by the book


[26-Aug-20 03:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, any logical rational assessment of what they're doing on a minute-to-minute basis would tune in and immediately assume that the thing they're seeing right now will cost Trump the election...so clearly, that is the wrong approach to interpreting their behavior


[26-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They have the arrogance 2016 Democrats had.


[26-Aug-20 03:30 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Sure you need suburban voters, but you need suburban voters who voted for Obama twice


[26-Aug-20 03:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no, this is an entirely different beast. Dems *assumed* they had the votes they needed. The RNC is acting like they don't need votes, period


[26-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also the Biden/Harris ticket means the messaging will always be confused


[26-Aug-20 03:31 AM] Itsthinking#8251
So them being tough on crime is bad, even though Republicans want tough on crime?


[26-Aug-20 03:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You're still trying to rationalize this. That is not the mindset his base is in


[26-Aug-20 03:33 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yeah.


[26-Aug-20 03:33 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They don't want to hear anything other than that they're right and they've always been right, and here's proof of the libs being wrong. Get owned, libs


[26-Aug-20 03:35 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They don't want to hear scary news that COVID-19 is here to stay, there's no treatment available and there won't be until the middle of next year maybe, that reopening schools and businesses has been pushed by business owners against CDC guidelines....they want to hear reassurance that there's nothing to worry about and the problem's going away. And guess who's been saying *that* all along


[26-Aug-20 03:36 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Feelings, not facts


[26-Aug-20 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As far as I'm concerned, the entire Republican voting base is behaving like angry drunks and the entire Republican party is acting like their drunk friends who are egging them on


[26-Aug-20 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they *will* throw their TV through the window onto the lawn, that'll show up Tammy


[26-Aug-20 03:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they will crash their pickup off a cliff if that brand of pick up does anything to donate to a democratic campaign or acknowledges the current state of affairs they don't want to hear


[26-Aug-20 03:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513662-trump-grants-pardon-to-activist-jon-ponder-ahead-of-convention

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[26-Aug-20 04:09 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://twitter.com/woot_master/status/1298347688761597952?s=21🤔

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[26-Aug-20 04:13 AM] Opponent#3498
```The RNC is acting like they don't need votes, period```
useful thing to remember would be the calls like 'the only way we're losing this is if they cheat'.


[26-Aug-20 04:14 AM] Opponent#3498
here's a leading question. In what situation would the president be allowed to cancel or postpone the elections? Like, anything at all, invasion, national emergency, literal apocalypse happening?


[26-Aug-20 04:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e70e52c7c72720ed714313f/t/5f22c800c516197500f1c997/1596114945315/ElectionTimingGuide.pdf


[26-Aug-20 04:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
here;s some reading on thAT actually


[26-Aug-20 04:21 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He can't


[26-Aug-20 04:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Summary​: Unlike the primaries, which are governed by state law and take place on different dates across the country,federal law—which only Congress can change—sets November 3rd as the date of the general election.The president has no authority to change this date.The Constitutional so significantly limits the ability of Congress to delay choosing the next president, even if it wants to—as under no circumstance can any president’s term be extended past noon onJanuary 20th without amending the Constitution.


[26-Aug-20 04:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I mean "he can't" as in "Trump can't"


[26-Aug-20 04:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Weird strat from the Republicans. I feel like pushing the message of "We can't lose unless they cheat" would *disincentivize* voting. It makes victory a foregone conclusion unless the Dems do something, which voting couldn't curtail anyway.


[26-Aug-20 04:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but yeah, the only way Trump is cancelling the election is if by some weird miracle, every state decides to amend the constitution in his favor, or he rigs the SCOTUS so thoroughly that he can get away with literally anything


[26-Aug-20 04:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Granted he may try to pretend he has that power, it would be enough for his base to declare the election cancelled


[26-Aug-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
well what happens if half the nation refuses to accept a new president?


[26-Aug-20 04:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then they just have a new president they dont like


[26-Aug-20 04:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/comments/3dvvep/misery_in_terms_of_40_hour_work_week/ct95zdz/
definitely resonate with this post, the times I've had a job have been hellish and the idea that those that realize a 40 hour work week is a dystopian hell that we earned like a century ago and technology and efficiency has improved since then without hours going down, wages going up are just called lazy or 'I suffered so you should suffer too'

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[26-Aug-20 04:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a majority of the nation didnt want or accept Trump as president, and yet there he is


[26-Aug-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
and this isn't getting better, that's the worst part, technology is getting better, but that has only meant less fulfilling jobs in marketing, administration, copying shit into spreadsheets, ect exist, the hell of the service industry, so not just that hours aren't decreasing as jobs make CEOs more money, more gets done, that nightmarish cycle isn't changing, if anything things are getting worse, things were better for average people economically in the 60s.


[26-Aug-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm so very tired of people validating this as good and fine.


[26-Aug-20 04:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
you could buy more with a 60s wage than you can buy with a 2020 wage if you even have work.


[26-Aug-20 04:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
technology makes it more efficient, the problem is to employers this sounds more like "Oh you can do more in an hour, make it so!"


[26-Aug-20 04:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally who cares that I can buy cheap laptops and TVs, that doesn't give me any more hours to actually live my own life.


[26-Aug-20 04:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it costed me $57 for a small amount of groceries

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[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
Technology has never improved the lives of workers.
Workers lives have only been getting harder since the invention of the electric light made it possible for them to do late-shifts.


[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
The more you can do, the more you're expected to do. Simple as.


[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can be on welfare and dehumanized and forced to do menial tasks that treat me as a parasite to validate my existence, have plenty of time with poverty, or I can work and have very little hours to myself.

If I wish to work say a 20 hour work week, I will earn barely more than welfare, I'll get some welfare still temporarily but most benefits will be slowly stripped away from me, reducing me to the same shitty quality of life as welfare previously had, only having to slave away.


[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
more efficient doesnt mean less work, it jsut means mroe work shoved into a smaller amount of crunch time


[26-Aug-20 04:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
If I work 40 hours, I'll have a life not worth living.


[26-Aug-20 04:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
Save money for retirement?


[26-Aug-20 04:37 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pay isnt large enough


[26-Aug-20 04:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
I can't.
that's the thing, welfare has assets testing.


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
want a pension? fuck you if you manage to slave away for a home to not pay a landlord 3/4 of your pension


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pay is large enough for some immediate payments, but not for saving


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
Are you on welfare, or are you working?


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
you own too much.
want welfare?
good at budgeting and saving?
haha the moment you have too much savings you're cut off.


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People can be on both


[26-Aug-20 04:38 AM] >That Guy#3386
I haven't been able to work in a while because of covid, but I really miss it...
I start feeling self-destructive when I'm not being productive.


[26-Aug-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's no work in this economy here, everything is locked down, the only work is hospitality, food delivery right now along with assorted soulless work from home jobs, not many though.


[26-Aug-20 04:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m unemployed, and soemhow i dont qualify for any social safety nets because my bank account is jsut slightly over the cap


[26-Aug-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's part of capitalist ideology as a parasite in your head, you need to 'contribute' to society


[26-Aug-20 04:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
thing is, most work contributes literally nothing, you're just making profit for some aspiring bezos.


[26-Aug-20 04:39 AM] >That Guy#3386
I've at least managed to squeeze in some part-time construction.


[26-Aug-20 04:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
construction is productive, but my body would break quite easily under work like that, it's not an option for I and many others.


[26-Aug-20 04:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
No. I just want to make some money do I can at least pull my weight around the house.


[26-Aug-20 04:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
I repair tech sometimes, buy broken things online, repair and sell, but parts shipping due to covid is quite slow, so I don't make much


[26-Aug-20 04:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
`my body would break easily`
Not all manual labor has to be backbreaking.


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's more of investments that give back a bit every two months or so.


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not like we really need to contribute individually as much as the system wants us to believe we should -- capitalism produces a lot of waste, a lot of resources go unused, a lot of houses go unoccupied, food goes wasted... if we just stopped producing and established a system of equitable distribution we'd be able to live off of everything stocked up for quite a long period of time imo


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
I mostly just hand things to the guy paying me.


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
a lot of it is, I can't carry enough comfortably to stock warehouses lol.


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] >That Guy#3386
I like working.


[26-Aug-20 04:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm just built tiny, I'm short and very slight, even though I work out, lifting about 10kg beyond my waist hurts.


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
like pallets, boxes and such, larger things, not smaller weights.


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
I get paid $10 an hour at my part time job. It's a decent deal. I always come at a moment's notice.


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
oof, in australia the minimum for casual work is 25aud roughly


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i enjoy being productive, the problem is most places that want productivity in my area pay only enough to immediately spend on groceries, bills, etc with nothing left over to save up with


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] >That Guy#3386
Usually just weekend work though.


[26-Aug-20 04:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
that's the bare legal minimum.


[26-Aug-20 04:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
You can't work for less than that?


[26-Aug-20 04:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
weekends are time and a half or double time often enough too.


[26-Aug-20 04:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
Not even for odd jobs?


[26-Aug-20 04:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
we have some labor laws still in tact to protect people yes


[26-Aug-20 04:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
How is anybody unemployed supposed to make money like that?


[26-Aug-20 04:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
america wants you to die poor tho


[26-Aug-20 04:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
america also has a significantly higher population so there's significantly more demand for work, you'd be fine with wages like ours economically


[26-Aug-20 04:44 AM] >That Guy#3386
If that were the minimum I could work for, I wouldn't be able to work at all.


[26-Aug-20 04:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's prison labor and illegal wage theft keeping your wages low along with hating working class people.


[26-Aug-20 04:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
you would be able to if prison slavery wasn't a thing actually.


[26-Aug-20 04:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
prisoners can do your jobs for 20 cents an hour, keeps wages nice n low


[26-Aug-20 04:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
illegal immigrants will always be exploited for cheap labor and even unpaid illegally and will be deported in a week or two anyway so they'll never get it.


[26-Aug-20 04:46 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't really think of it that way.
$10 an hour is a decent wage for handing a guy his tools or helping old people move.


[26-Aug-20 04:46 AM] dissociativity#8391
this happens a lot in construction.


[26-Aug-20 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
people cross the border to get work after natural disasters, they do honest good work, often aren't at all paid for their jobs and struggle to seek legal help, and can be deported at any time while used basically as slaves since they're never paid.


[26-Aug-20 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
this artificially keeps your wages lower of course, and even when they're paid, they're often underpaid.


[26-Aug-20 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
they can afford to hire more central and south americans to do your job in less time for significantly cheaper.


[26-Aug-20 04:47 AM] >That Guy#3386
Well, I'm still glad to work when I can.
As it stands for me, some money is better than no money at all.


[26-Aug-20 04:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
now, this isn't the immigrant's fault, this is the fault of capitalists and the law protecting them.


[26-Aug-20 04:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
obviously money is good, but good minimum wages isn't what makes work in australia a pain to get now lol


[26-Aug-20 04:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for me is i can;t buy a hosue on $10 an hour


[26-Aug-20 04:48 AM] dissociativity#8391
plenty of europe has plenty of work normally outside of covid without american slave wages.


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or pay rent on that


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
obviously you can do cash under the table odd jobs tho


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'm only trying to make some side cash until I can get a real job.


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
we all do those from time to time, I fix phones for people like that


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
odd jobs are one thing and for those i can see $10 working out well


[26-Aug-20 04:49 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's hardly super legal as I don't declare it, but cash in hand is cash in hand, and it's something I like doing


[26-Aug-20 04:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem for me is that non odd jobs are also paying that wage pretty much


[26-Aug-20 04:50 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's above minimum wage, so I give more-than-minimum effort.


[26-Aug-20 04:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, normal jobs here pay 25 an hour ish if casual, and around 20 if proper regular part time or full time work


[26-Aug-20 04:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, that's the rules right?
to be fair we have a higher cost of living, but even with that we earn more.


[26-Aug-20 04:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
and we get good public healthcare for free on top of it, while paying less taxes than americans overall if you consider the private healthcare you get with jobs a tax


[26-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
higher cost of living that fricking US, oof.


[26-Aug-20 04:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, but we still earn more money overall relative to what basic needs and rent costs, and we have social programs with huge perks.


[26-Aug-20 04:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
normal jobs here pay on average $12.10 an hour


[26-Aug-20 04:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
specifically in my area


[26-Aug-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
so our quality of life even for the poorest is substantially better from the US, I have a friend consistently tell me horror stories of his CVS job and it makes america sound dystopian but yall just like, live there and it's normal, it's sad and wild at the same time


[26-Aug-20 04:52 AM] dissociativity#8391
like you could make a short story anthology of normal american life in poorer areas as an average service/retail worker and it'd sell like hotcakes as an absurdist melancholy comedy in australia


[26-Aug-20 04:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
like, I mean totally divorced from covid and other shit making america wild rn, like normal life a year ago


[26-Aug-20 04:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
2020 is an absurdist melancholy comedy, but it's mostly sad lol


[26-Aug-20 04:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a sad joke and the punchline is things getting shittier lol


[26-Aug-20 04:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the minimum wage in NC is $7.25


[26-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://forward.com/news/national/453183/the-rabbi-who-is-neighbor-to-mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-speaks-out-they/

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The rabbi who is neighbors to Mark and Patricia McCloskey speaks out: ‘They are bullies’
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[26-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`In 2013, the synagogue placed beehives along the wall to produce honey for Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. One morning they found the hives destroyed and all the bees dead. Mark McCloskey had taken an ax or sledgehammer to them.

His issue? The fence between them sat six inches inside the McCloskey’s property line. The hives were his to wreck.`


[26-Aug-20 05:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I still can't believe they actually took those two clowns to the convention as spokespeople


[26-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Actually I can fully believe it


[26-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just fucking sad and depressing and absurd


[26-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's so they can whine about Democratic governance.


[26-Aug-20 05:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s a muh 2nd amendment thing


[26-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
They complained about the new representative that is going to represent their district


[26-Aug-20 05:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The hilarious part is that _she would probably not have won without them._


[26-Aug-20 05:15 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rnc waives a few details abotu the law they broke, and pretends it was simply an attempt by democrats to steal their guns


[26-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Prosecuting them would be pointless, Missouri has extremely strong castle doctrine laws.


[26-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I just hate how the GOP tries to present _mansion owners_ as "the common middle-class american the liberal dems are out to get"


[26-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Nah, that wasn't the angle. It was "Democrats will prosecute people like us, defending a home, but not criminals"


[26-Aug-20 05:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't forget, they think $450k is middle class https://www.newsweek.com/tax-cuts-republicans-middle-class-trump-701094


[26-Aug-20 05:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"If the dems get power, they'll raise your taxes!"
>taxes raised only affect people making over 650k USD a year


[26-Aug-20 05:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
out of curiosity, what % of the income of the lowest one-percenter is 650k? How many zeroes after the decimal point is the first significant figure?


[26-Aug-20 05:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, why does Tucker Carlson always look like he just learned cheese comes from milk

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[26-Aug-20 05:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, apparently to get into the 1% you only need to make a measly sum more than that - 738k. My lower cited number of 450k puts you in the top *5%*


[26-Aug-20 05:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://theweek.com/speedreads/933762/pam-bondi-blasts-joe-biden-over-nepotism-just-before-tiffany-trump-speaks-rnc

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Pam Bondi blasts Joe Biden over nepotism just before Tiffany Trump ...
Well, that was some awkward scheduling.
Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi on Tuesday gave a speech during the Republican National Convention in which she blasted the Democratic presidential nominee, former Vice President Joe Biden, for nepotism, with a particular focus...
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[26-Aug-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
what's 50% (median)


[26-Aug-20 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't know, the stats I'm working with only go down to the top 10%


[26-Aug-20 05:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
which is 158k


[26-Aug-20 05:22 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[26-Aug-20 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
have they literally not updated their trump graphic in 4 years


[26-Aug-20 05:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
is he still a hale and hearty businessman of the 80s


[26-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
29 out of 100 is almost a 1/3 chance though


[26-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
The data isn't wrong. Trump's favored to lose but doesn't have statistically insignificant odds.


[26-Aug-20 05:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well aware of that reality


[26-Aug-20 05:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I actually can't see my neighbor's porch because it's hidden behind their trump 2020 sign


[26-Aug-20 05:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll be honest, 29% are also the odds that they'll get the fire department called on them again before the year's out due to their bootleg fireworks setting the place on fire again


[26-Aug-20 05:28 AM] Phelan#7647
Remember HuffPaints's 1.6% odds of Trump winning?


[26-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well they weren't wrong, Trump lost the election


[26-Aug-20 05:29 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[26-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's just you don't have to win the election to become president


[26-Aug-20 05:29 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
538 is giving Trump similar odds right now, but have made the distinction that that was Clinton v. Trump odds *on election day.* If Biden continues polling as well as he currently is a few months from now, his chances of winning will be a lot better.

Biden's 70~ish chances of winning are in part due to the uncertainty of the next 70 days and the possibility of Biden's numbers falling. If that *doesn't* happen, we'll see his chances of winning increase in the 538 model.


[26-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
they will get higher and higher towards election day as long as nothing major happens


[26-Aug-20 05:30 AM] byte[]#2610
unfortunately barr is probably going to try to ratfuck it the way comey did with clinton


[26-Aug-20 05:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, let's not forget that death by natural causes is also a statistically significant possibility for either candidate


[26-Aug-20 05:31 AM] byte[]#2610
we'll have to see if people buy it


[26-Aug-20 05:32 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
Biden just needs to shut up and stay on script for the next few months. Play it safe at the debates and stick to policy, just keep himself out of any negative news cycles.

We don't have a Benghazi this time. We don't have an email investigation this time. Biden's not well-liked but he isn't despised like Clinton was.


[26-Aug-20 05:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, he did pretty okay at the DNC convention


[26-Aug-20 05:32 AM] >That Guy#3386
Clinton was such an awful candidate, holy shit.


[26-Aug-20 05:33 AM] >That Guy#3386
I want the Biden vs. Trump debates to begin already. Entertain me.


[26-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just wait until Biden spits on a black guy and calls him an Uncle Tom


[26-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
He's doing alright for now. He somehow avoided "You ain't black" becoming his full-on "basket of deplorables" moment, but we don't need to get to that point.


[26-Aug-20 05:34 AM] illumnious#7938
Chile


[26-Aug-20 05:34 AM] Phelan#7647
I think we do need to get to that point.


[26-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Opponent#3498
@WingbeatPony is that 1/5% worldwide or US only?


[26-Aug-20 05:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's US only


[26-Aug-20 05:36 AM] byte[]#2610
Do people even remember the context for the deplorables line? It was a completely fabricated controversy


[26-Aug-20 05:36 AM] >That Guy#3386
It was not a wise thing to say.


[26-Aug-20 05:37 AM] >That Guy#3386
To alienate a quarter of the country like that.


[26-Aug-20 05:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> I know there are only 60 days left to make our case – and don't get complacent; don't see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think, "Well, he's done this time." We are living in a volatile political environment.
> 
> You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic – you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America.
> 
> But the "other" basket – the other basket – and I know because I look at this crowd I see friends from all over America here: I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas and – as well as, you know, New York and California – but that "other" basket of people are people who feel the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures; and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but – he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.
> — Hillary Clinton, CBS News


[26-Aug-20 05:38 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, dismissing about 90 million people by calling them deplorable is pretty stupid politically.


[26-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Phelan#7647
Not just that, but the way she said it made it clipable to sound like she's talking about 180 million people.


[26-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden really benefits from Bernie having dropped out in March.


[26-Aug-20 05:40 AM] >That Guy#3386
In that smug, nasally voice of hers.


[26-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She was partially correct, but it didn't help her.


[26-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I've seen people argue "But _why_ is racism bad?" in these past four years.


[26-Aug-20 05:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i get her sentiment but she worded it badly


[26-Aug-20 05:41 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh if that's all of her quote, it seems quite reasonable as discourse


[26-Aug-20 05:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the full speech grabbed directly off wikipedia


[26-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, there are some irredeemable people like communists and Nazis.


[26-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Phelan#7647
But she still shouldn't have said it.


[26-Aug-20 05:42 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But well, Trump's campaign isolated the "basket of deplorables" term and told people it was all that she said there


[26-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2016 created basically the strongest left-wing movement in a century


[26-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
2016-20, progressives repeatedly won elections


[26-Aug-20 05:43 AM] >That Guy#3386
It's devisive language, and Trump was far better at playing the division game than she was.


[26-Aug-20 05:43 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
her case was that not every Trump supporter is a biggoted racist, that A LOT of his supporters were people desperate for change and latching onto whatever hope they could find


[26-Aug-20 05:43 AM] Itsthinking#8251
True. I'm waiting for a Democrat that goes "Why should some farmer in Kansas decide how you live your life?"


[26-Aug-20 05:54 AM] illumnious#7938
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[26-Aug-20 06:56 AM] Serenity#9645
@Itsthinking if some farmer in kansas cant live his life to farm and all votes are urban who dont know what farms are then we ruin our supply. if we ruin our urban centers then we dont have bigger business and a reliable source to the farmers to sell to and distribute to urban centers. its a cycle and both need their say, most urban plans will never work in a rural one and vice versa.
with the electoral collage those farmers votes matter. it isnt perfect but it does stop policy that will hurt our working class in a blanket rule with huge urban centers in mind.


[26-Aug-20 07:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well, that would be a sensible argument if it weren't for the fact that democrats *have* put forward several policies that would help farmers and rural communities/communities below the poverty line, and the people who live there have consistently voted against them


[26-Aug-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and have instead voted for republican policies that directly affect their livelihood in a negative way


[26-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I was using an example of a populist politician vilifying a group unfairly


[26-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Also sadly, a lot of farms are functionally dependent on cities economically


[26-Aug-20 07:04 AM] Serenity#9645
i never said republican or democrat, i just talked about the importance of farmers votes?


[26-Aug-20 07:05 AM] jlun2#8758
im just annoyed theres no high tech farming yet


[26-Aug-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
^^^^^^


[26-Aug-20 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Here's the thing - no one's saying farmers' votes shouldn't count for less than an urban vote. They should count the same


[26-Aug-20 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
But according to the EC, they count *more.* Far more. Also, "high tech farming?" do you live under a rock? Have you *seen* what industrial agriculture looks like these days?


[26-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Rural and urban areas need each other a lot. I only dislike urban coastal elites who worship rural America without understanding it because they see them as easily swayed rubes.


[26-Aug-20 07:06 AM] Serenity#9645
the question is is it 1 for 1... or 1 for 100? cus urban centers are way bigger and no one can deny that alot of urban people dont know 1 thing about farming


[26-Aug-20 07:06 AM] jlun2#8758
there's an article on "autonomous fruit picker" from 2007. a decade later we still dont have it; moving is annoyingly hard :ts_cry:


[26-Aug-20 07:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Why develop technology when immigrants will do it?


[26-Aug-20 07:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@WingbeatPony i've seen articles on industrial agriculture, but as a tourist i never seen one irl
the farms i see as a tourist were low tech-ish


[26-Aug-20 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll say this: I have a much easier time believing that an urban Squad-tier progressive like AOC would be receptive to the plight of rural communities than I would someone the likes of Rand Paul (R-KY) being receptive to the plight of urban centers or the nation as a whole


[26-Aug-20 07:08 AM] Serenity#9645
if we dismiss the 1 person making our food to 100 people who work at the big corperations and or know nothing but city life. wouldnt that one farmer be beaten into submission if his vote was 1/100 of that that knows not what he does?


[26-Aug-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's kind of the problem we've got with *urban* votes


[26-Aug-20 07:10 AM] Serenity#9645
there is legitimate people that think food just arrives at stores. not farm, not processing plant to plant, not many trucks, just at stores and they vote.


[26-Aug-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
There are also people who think Trump helped farmers in 2019. Your point?


[26-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
when did i ever say trump, dont put words in my mouth, i didnt ever say farmers vote for him, i dont know what they vote for im not a farmer, im a aircraft electrician that travels the world. but i understand their importance


[26-Aug-20 07:12 AM] Serenity#9645
your fight is im saying trump is right, i never said that, so drop it


[26-Aug-20 07:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Y'know, if you want to accuse me of putting words in my mouth, consider: I never implied that the people I was talking about were farmers themselves


[26-Aug-20 07:14 AM] Serenity#9645
so why is it every time i write, you respond, trump?


[26-Aug-20 07:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because he's the republican incumbent in the upcoming election around which there is a debate between urban and rural votes as concern their representation in the electoral college


[26-Aug-20 07:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And frankly, this country in general has an issue with informed voters and voter turnout


[26-Aug-20 07:16 AM] Serenity#9645
so your assumption that i think farmers votes matter and shouldnt be drowned out by urban votes are, people think trump helps farmers?


[26-Aug-20 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think you believe that the amount of representation that "red states" currently get is appropriate and proportional


[26-Aug-20 07:18 AM] Serenity#9645
im just saying that farmers and the economic system are important and we shouldnt forget that 10 people with acres of land farming shouldnt be drowned out by 5000 people in 1 acre that most havent touched fertile soil in their life


[26-Aug-20 07:19 AM] Serenity#9645
nothing trump vs whoever, just its a important part to remember


[26-Aug-20 07:20 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, as I said, that argument would hold up if they *were* being drowned out and not the other way around


[26-Aug-20 07:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i had a kid who went to kansas (funny we say kansas farmer) from NYC that works on aircraft electronics, hes a dumbass with electronics but that aside, and he didnt know how farms worked, didnt know how to drive, didnt know how to be a adult in kansas. im younger then him and taught him how to drive, do his job, and why there is "vast nothingness" in kansas


[26-Aug-20 07:23 AM] Serenity#9645
heck i taught him that the price per oz next to the price in stores could help you find a deal, then i got sent to somewhere else. hope he is surviving well


[26-Aug-20 07:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even on a local level, ignoring the EC's bias in representation, gerrymandering is a real problem in this country but it, too, is a practice employed more heavily by one side than the other


[26-Aug-20 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A side which has spent an entire generation convincing its voter base to vote against their own self interests


[26-Aug-20 07:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
crucially, *in the name* of protecting those rights and interests


[26-Aug-20 07:26 AM] Serenity#9645
yuri couldnt have said it better


[26-Aug-20 07:49 AM] ononim#8141
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[26-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
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[26-Aug-20 08:39 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sad


[26-Aug-20 08:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
cool, now get mad at the cops for inciting riots through incompetence and negligence


[26-Aug-20 09:02 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
An endless cycle it feels like. Get mad enough and riots intensify. More riots leads to more negligence. Get more mad, etc


[26-Aug-20 09:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You know whats worse then all of that? The cops doing this shit
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[26-Aug-20 09:05 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Kinda wish people would take a moment to sit back, smoke some weed, and chill the f out.


[26-Aug-20 09:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Not when cops gas protesters and shoot people 7 times in the back.


[26-Aug-20 09:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's a very simple way to stop the protests, stop the riots completely, and that's actually listen to their demands instead of ignoring them while playing lip service with virtue signaling occasionally


[26-Aug-20 09:54 AM] dissociativity#8391
and yes, white people should riot when unarmed white people are murdered by police too.


[26-Aug-20 09:55 AM] Phelan#7647
What if their demands are a nonstarter?


[26-Aug-20 09:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
then open a damn dialogue instead of gassing them


[26-Aug-20 09:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
the problem is: cops execute people for misdemeanors
nothing is being done to prevent this and punish cops when they do actually do this, all because of what these unarmed people 'might have done'


[26-Aug-20 09:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
the cops investigate the other cops and declare the cops have done nothing wrong, no actual transparency.


[26-Aug-20 09:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's a simple process, cops murder unarmed people for misdemeanors, people riot, so maybe try to prevent executions happening so much?


[26-Aug-20 09:57 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is the only country in the world where this happens like this so often.


[26-Aug-20 09:58 AM] Phelan#7647
It's cause anybody can be carrying


[26-Aug-20 09:58 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Investigations work and shit cops get jailed for it. It works up here in Canada very well.


[26-Aug-20 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
yes, and? police sign up to danger, currently they're in less danger than pizza delivery dudes and garbage men.


[26-Aug-20 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
police being scared or having a bad day isn't ever an excuse for executing people.


[26-Aug-20 09:59 AM] Phelan#7647
what about "being scared for their life"


[26-Aug-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
to start, people won't pull a gun on you as often if you don't start yelling at them with your dangerous game of simon says


[26-Aug-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
bro, there were like 4 cops or more every time, also pointing guns, they'd be fine.


[26-Aug-20 09:59 AM] Phelan#7647
I think that's reasonable to kill someone you think is trying to kill you


[26-Aug-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not reasonable to let dumb paranoid people be cops and remain cops


[26-Aug-20 10:00 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Better screening and better training solves that issue


[26-Aug-20 10:00 AM] dissociativity#8391
any australian can stab you with a screwdriver, yet cops don't tend to murder us so much here


[26-Aug-20 10:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
if a cop already has a gun out pointing at the dude to the point he can nail someone 7 times before he has time to react, he was probably pretty safe m8


[26-Aug-20 10:01 AM] Phelan#7647
From what I've seen, there are a lot of people that want to kill them, like the people that tried to cover the exits of a police precinct and tried to light it on fire.


[26-Aug-20 10:01 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe blue lives shouldn't murder and people wouldn't do that huh?


[26-Aug-20 10:01 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Both sides are murdering each other


[26-Aug-20 10:01 AM] Phelan#7647
Maybe terrorists shouldn't be terrorists


[26-Aug-20 10:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
only country where this regularly happens says we can't do anything about this happening

and no, cop executions make a few people from the BLM side look like a joke


[26-Aug-20 10:02 AM] dissociativity#8391
and property seized by cops outranks any burglary or deliberate property damage by far in $$ value from memory too.


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm sorry, if you're trying to incite violence against the police, like I've seen a lot of, for political reason, you are a terrorist.
The average citizen doesn't like terrorists.


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
no, that's not terrorism.


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
police aren't special, they're citizens with the same rights as anyone else.


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The average citizens are starting to arm themselves more and more


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] dissociativity#8391
for good reason, they should shoot back if cops raid their house in the dead of night with no knock


[26-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Phelan#7647
It's violence against civilians in pursuit of political aims.


[26-Aug-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
if police suffered consequences for their actions, they'd perhaps stop being such thugs


[26-Aug-20 10:04 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Actually average citizens are arming themselves in fear of protesters burning stuff down


[26-Aug-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
we need black panthers 2.0 to watch the watchers.


[26-Aug-20 10:04 AM] dissociativity#8391
black panthers open carried and watched cops to make sure they did nothing illegal, NRA didn't like that and repealed open carry rights.


[26-Aug-20 10:04 AM] Phelan#7647
The new black panthers exist and they're considered a domestic terrorist organization.


[26-Aug-20 10:05 AM] dissociativity#8391
maybe police need armed citizens to hold them accountable and open carry, apprehend murderous criminals with badges.


[26-Aug-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
badges shouldn't make murder legal, many cops beat their partners but that's casually overlooked too, because badge means the right to be ignored when you do illegal shit


[26-Aug-20 10:06 AM] dissociativity#8391
cops protect cops, there is no transparent overseeing body.


[26-Aug-20 10:06 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Not fully true


[26-Aug-20 10:07 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you put in a complaint, the police tend to just investigate the police, there isn't a seperate department without vested interest in protecting them to investigate.


[26-Aug-20 10:07 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Investigations do work though


[26-Aug-20 10:07 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm not saying that people cant open carry, it's just that having a domestic terrorist organization shoot police trying to arrest a paedophile rapist isn't a good look to moderates.

Also, the case was sent to the Wisconsin DOJ, not the police department.


[26-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Serval#4825
There’s pros and cons to each, if there’s no police then there’s nobody to enforce gun grabs


[26-Aug-20 10:09 AM] Phelan#7647
Abolish the police and bring back PMCs


[26-Aug-20 10:09 AM] Phelan#7647
:^)


[26-Aug-20 10:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
the root of the matter is:
police are trained sociopaths, they are not trained in social services, they do not de-escalate, they do not know how to de-escalate.


[26-Aug-20 10:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
pointing guns at people because they're under arrest makes them freak out


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
first of all, there's no definition of "domestic terrorist" in the US legal system, so even ignoring how loaded that part of your sentence is, it isn't even possible to call any group in the US a "domestic terrorist group"


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
especially if they've not done anything to warrant drawing a firearm


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
you don't draw a firearm on people you want a peaceful solution to


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Crow#5457
second of all, it doesn't fucking matter who the police are attempting to arrest, there is no reason ever to shoot someone 7 times in the back when alternative methods are easily and readily available


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] dissociativity#8391
guns are for killing, you draw them only with the intent to kill.


[26-Aug-20 10:10 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
It would be ideal if social workers were actually sent out with cops


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
cops should also get a year of social work training


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Phelan#7647
I would consider the new black panthers to be considered a domestic terrorist organization


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
american cop training standards are on the bottom of the barrel


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I would prefer actual social workers


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] dissociativity#8391
I think there's two actually, it's confusing, one is good, the other one are weirdos and a bit batshit.


[26-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Crow#5457
there was never any question of blake's noncompliance, shooting him 7 times just for being noncompliant is like purposefully running someone down for jaywalking


[26-Aug-20 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
I would prefer both.
if a cop doesn't know when not to draw a gun and actually just talk shit out, if they're not trained to, having a social worker won't stop someone with a gun pointed at them from freaking out and not complying


[26-Aug-20 10:12 AM] dissociativity#8391
drawing a gun without good reason should be a misdemeanor to cops.


[26-Aug-20 10:13 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Thats the problem. All cops are trained to always keep their hands on their guns and at the ready at all times


[26-Aug-20 10:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you draw a gun, you need to have the intent to potentially kill, if there's no justification for potentially killing, you're just a paranoid psychopath.

you can keep your hand on your gun in the holster.


[26-Aug-20 10:13 AM] Crow#5457
the problem in the US vs europe is that US police are trained in the doctrine of "reasonable belief" for escalation of force


[26-Aug-20 10:13 AM] Phelan#7647
Also, I'm not saying if it's justified or not, just that the situation I gave would be something that (I feel that) the vast majority of the US population would take the cops side.


[26-Aug-20 10:14 AM] Crow#5457
in europe, police forces are trained in the doctrine of "absolute necessity"


[26-Aug-20 10:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
and the US population is brainwashed by half a century of propaganda at least


[26-Aug-20 10:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
only americans are like this.


[26-Aug-20 10:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
literally only americans.
they're genuinely defective culturally, I'm sorry to say.


[26-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
the police are allowed to immediately jump to drawing their pistol because their doctrine of "reasonable belief" gives them the leeway to assume that every single person is armed and willing to shoot them


[26-Aug-20 10:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
americans have accepted a norm that would be horrifying to anyone else in the first world.


[26-Aug-20 10:15 AM] Crow#5457
in europe, even if police are pretty sure that someone is armed and dangerous, until that person actually pull out a weapon, they are not allowed to pull their own weapons


[26-Aug-20 10:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
in europe, police don't tend to die often because of this either.


[26-Aug-20 10:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
and again, with the dude going to the car, it seemed to me he wanted to drive off as he was with his 3 kids.
just get his plates, approach him later, keep things de-escalated.


[26-Aug-20 10:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
don't freak out people and make them think they're going to die or they'll make irrational decisions, this is natural.


[26-Aug-20 10:16 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/guns-policing-how-many-deaths-data-statistics/

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https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/guns-policing-how-many-deaths-data-statistics/
How Often Are Police Shot in the Line of Duty?
New research on officers killed and injured in shootings shows a dangerous profession — but not one that’s getting riskier.
https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/GettyImages-494724298-e1595434874137-1024x624.jpg


[26-Aug-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
like it's genuinely delusional to think that people who think they're going to die aren't going to freak the fuck out


[26-Aug-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
actually fucking delusional.


[26-Aug-20 10:17 AM] Crow#5457
> Significantly. The scholars noted a wide divergence between firearm assaults against police at the state level. Mississippi, the state with the highest average rate of firearm assault on police over the six-year period, recorded 2.29 firearm assaults per 1,000 officers, while Connecticut, the state with the lowest number of assaults, recorded .06 firearm assaults per 1,000 officers. (The national mean is .47 firearm assaults per 1,000 officers.) Other states with high rates include New Mexico, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Colorado. States in the Southeast and Southwest had elevated rates compared to the national average.


[26-Aug-20 10:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
and they have plenty of examples to make them think that.

on top of that, again, a gun is for killing, you only draw a gun if you intend to kill.


[26-Aug-20 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
there's a shitload of evidence that gun ownership rates correlates with a higher rate of officers being shot btw


[26-Aug-20 10:18 AM] Crow#5457
like, an absurdly large number of studies point in that direction


[26-Aug-20 10:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair though, a rational response when guns are pointed at you, is to draw your own, hell there was some dude playing video games with his gf, cops went in for noise complaints, he shot back at the home invaders in blue


[26-Aug-20 10:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
just some ordinary white dude, very recently, I'm sure you remember.

if you don't like gangs, you shouldn't like a gang in blue behaving like a gang.


[26-Aug-20 10:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
after all, if gang crime is legal, that's worse than others I know of.


[26-Aug-20 10:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
BLM is a result of people getting fed up after decades of being ignored, and is entirely justified.


[26-Aug-20 10:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
riots are the voice of the unheard.
so fucking hear them if you want them to stop, jesus christ this response is incompetent as shit and is only making them worse.


[26-Aug-20 10:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
like could you at least agree that the response has been totally incompetent?
you can't just gas them til they stop, they're done stopping.


[26-Aug-20 10:22 AM] dissociativity#8391
put a bandaid on the problem even, throw them in jail? Get more protests and riots.


[26-Aug-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
I personally have never had a police officer help me, ambos, nurses, paramedics, ect, yes, firefighters are cool too, cops? never, all they've done is been deliberately intimidating and made bigoted comments, and made suicidal friends they were called on even more of a danger to themselves and at higher risk.


[26-Aug-20 10:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
and this is in australia where they're substantially better trained and more effective.


[26-Aug-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
you need a solution to these issues, one that will make people feel safe around cops, cops are supposed to make people feel safe.


[26-Aug-20 10:25 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I have had plenty of cops help me, yet I've also been wronged by some as well.


[26-Aug-20 10:25 AM] dissociativity#8391
I would've thought not wanting to be murdered would be a sympathetic cause.


[26-Aug-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
bad responses turn peaceful protests into riots


[26-Aug-20 10:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
riots don't just happen because 'muh black people bad' or some shit


[26-Aug-20 10:26 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I've had cops help me on more than a couple of time, never had them really wrong me except the time when a building I was at got swatted.


[26-Aug-20 10:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
they've only ever been a burden to I and people I know personally.


[26-Aug-20 10:27 AM] Phelan#7647
Never really been a burden to me. You might be able to add "made me feel on edge when I was high" a couple of times.


[26-Aug-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
all they do is make harmless drugs harder to get and assault peaceful protestors here in aussieland in my city


[26-Aug-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
and make suicidal people more likely to kill themselves by escalating things too


[26-Aug-20 10:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
never call cops on suicidal friends, I beg you, in america they'll fucking die.


[26-Aug-20 10:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
suicidal people aren't rational and american cops kill mentally ill people all the time


[26-Aug-20 10:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
usually schizophrenic people get murdered, here's a canadian example
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53141449

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Police kill Canadian man during mental health check
A man with schizophrenia was killed by police who were called to help him.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/F00C/production/_113025416_gettyimages-1221918169.jpg


[26-Aug-20 10:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
negligence or incompetence
to be fair usually.


[26-Aug-20 10:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
but they do not know how to do 'wellness checks' anywhere sadly.


[26-Aug-20 10:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
like a severely mentally ill person will pull a knife on you sometimes, you need to know how to talk them down and not murder them.


[26-Aug-20 10:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
I hate how people who are clearly scared shitless are blamed for this shit too.


[26-Aug-20 10:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
asking people to be rational when they fear for their life is fucking dumb, as a police officer your job should be to make them stop being afraid, or make them not fear for their lives in the first place.


[26-Aug-20 10:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
I've talked people down with a knife before and didn't need a damn weapon to do it.


[26-Aug-20 10:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
you just need some damn empathy.


[26-Aug-20 10:33 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Talking doesn't work all the time. I've seen a similar thing happen where I live.


[26-Aug-20 10:33 AM] dissociativity#8391
people who don't know how to use knives also aren't particularly dangerous and the vests cops tend to use are relatively stab proof


[26-Aug-20 10:34 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Anyone with a knife is dangerous


[26-Aug-20 10:34 AM] dissociativity#8391
there is nothing wrong with expecting cops to occasionally put themselves in danger for the greater good, valuing police lives over the lives of homeless and very mentally ill people is inhumane, police choose this occupation.


[26-Aug-20 10:35 AM] dissociativity#8391
plus, that's what baton is for, it's longer than a knife


[26-Aug-20 10:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you need to be violent you don't need to go for the kill, stun guns may not work, but a schizophrenic man with a knife stands no chance against a trained officer with a baton lol


[26-Aug-20 10:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
especially if multiple officers are there.
not that brutalizing a schizophrenic man with a baton looks particularly good


[26-Aug-20 10:37 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Not every person is the same and can't be handled in the same way


[26-Aug-20 10:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you're a group of 4 cops on one man, you don't need to murder said man unless you can confirm they have a gun.


[26-Aug-20 10:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
he's not generally some 6'7" gigachad who can overpower 4 trained and armed police officers.


[26-Aug-20 10:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
really seems like cops are cowards, afraid to put themselves in danger.


[26-Aug-20 10:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
illegally murdering someone out of fear, when danger is in the job description


[26-Aug-20 10:38 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Adrenaline can make the smallest people into scary people


[26-Aug-20 10:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
people working in retail deal with violent people all of the time without murdering them.


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
police should at least be as competent as retail workers.


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Once saw a 5'4 person get so worked up, he lifted 3 security guards up


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
god forbid I want police to have the de-escalation skills of an average retail worker.


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] Phelan#7647
If they need to deal with a violent person in retail, you either get him to leave or you get the cops to deal with him.
Not the same situation.


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
All at once mind you


[26-Aug-20 10:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
and if people run, you can catch them later using body cam footage, you don't need to murder them.


[26-Aug-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
it is the same situation, retail worker's lives are still in danger, they just don't get to shoot people.


[26-Aug-20 10:40 AM] dissociativity#8391
so they need to use tools that are at their disposal, and often enough it's more effective than executing them.


[26-Aug-20 10:41 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The problem is everyone is unpredictable. Just because you can talk someone down doesn't mean they still attack you


[26-Aug-20 10:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
I really hate the fact so many people love to say the word 'criminal', as a signifier for people who don't have or shouldn't have human rights.


[26-Aug-20 10:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
look, if civilians murdered people as much as cops did when they felt unsafe, average women would be known for murdering creeps that try to follow us home at night lol.


[26-Aug-20 10:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair I'd love to be armed and be able to do that however, though I'd prefer not to have blood on my hands.


[26-Aug-20 10:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
the classic game of women avoiding men who try to follow us home on public transport is something every woman I've known including myself has experienced, but sadly we can't even have pepper spray here so JUST fuck my shit up m8


[26-Aug-20 10:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to mention weirdos on public transport that try to jerk off to you.


[26-Aug-20 10:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
which feels violating as shit.


[26-Aug-20 10:44 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Body spray and a lighter work. I recommend that


[26-Aug-20 10:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
I do have a lovely jet lighter


[26-Aug-20 10:46 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Guys do tend to f off when they see a big flame


[26-Aug-20 10:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
fire is probably more unpredictably scary than any person


[26-Aug-20 10:47 AM] dissociativity#8391
once something is proper alight anyway.


[26-Aug-20 11:48 AM] Crow#5457
. https://imgur.com/gallery/thMOY4X

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[26-Aug-20 12:32 PM] Opponent#3498
```im just saying that farmers and the economic system are important and we shouldnt forget that 10 people with acres of land farming shouldnt be drowned out by 5000 people in 1 acre that most havent touched fertile soil in their life```
they should also get state-sponsored indentured servants from _lesser breeds_, on demand. After all, only they know how and when to apply the workforce, and helping the 10 is supremely important, to enable them to feed the 5000... :twismug:


[26-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I wonder why people might take issue with this train of thought.


[26-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Opponent#3498
```’ll never get over the fact that for centuries. CENTURIES. Colonizers thought and convinced the world that Indigenous Peoples were uncivilized and unintelligent.

And now, they expect us to save the world.```
oh blessed ignorance :twismug:  They actually think 'indigenous peoples' have the monopoly on argicultural fires.


[26-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, if you read the article, you'd know that they banned the custom a century ago


[26-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
and now they want to bring it back and want the natives' help


[26-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/975/116/88c.gif

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[26-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Crow#5457
the response is literally "let them burn"


[26-Aug-20 12:59 PM] wren#0114
dum


[26-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Opponent#3498
well, US banned the custom perhaps. But this has been employed around the world for literally forever.


[26-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Opponent#3498
the natives in this context are employed only as a political move.


[26-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Opponent#3498
and tbh most likely they can't help even if they wanted to, current-day natives are no different from general population in having by and large forgotten all this useful pre-industrial stuff


[26-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/899422710/to-manage-wildfire-california-looks-to-what-tribes-have-known-all-along

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To Manage Wildfire, California Looks To What Tribes Have Known All ...
Native American tribes are restoring traditional burning in California, which could help the state reduce the risk of extreme wildfires.
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/08/06/dsc02521_wide-ed87adb7552c8b4e9a87444375add18341be69f4.jpg?s=1400


[26-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Crow#5457
and yes, if you've looked at how natives have been portrayed even centuries ago, you'd realize that the poster has a point about how people of european descent have held some pretty racist beliefs about natives in every land


[26-Aug-20 01:16 PM] wren#0114
that they were uncivilized?


[26-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
and unintelligent


[26-Aug-20 01:16 PM] wren#0114
they had a different culture, but certainly weren't anything like modern civs


[26-Aug-20 01:16 PM] wren#0114
at the time


[26-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/native/homepage.htm


[26-Aug-20 01:23 PM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618480411273723950/748050065716674610/ee883ba0ab42fb4d52f14256e58531cf3077a29a747559819990a3d92a42e9bb_1.jpg

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[26-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh while I'm not arguing pro and con on native culture value, having a couple useful tricks allowing you not to die suddenly from a natural event does not make for an enlightened advanced civilisation.


[26-Aug-20 01:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
Native tricks to avoid dying in wildfires typically meant running from the fires.


[26-Aug-20 01:25 PM] Opponent#3498
(of course the question then is what _does_, and having firearms and coal-powered industry is not nessesarily _it_ either, but that's for another time)


[26-Aug-20 01:25 PM] >That Guy#3386
Most of them didn't have houses to burn down. It's a perk of being a nomad.


[26-Aug-20 01:55 PM] wren#0114
they had good understanding of the land from what I understand, but they apparently lacked the wisdom to adapt and incorporate industry after they were exposed to it


[26-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
er, you don't know how they were forced into deals that prevent them from running industry on their own reservations?


[26-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Crow#5457
they literally weren't allowed to incorporate industry on the lands they were forced onto


[26-Aug-20 01:58 PM] >That Guy#3386
More like they lacked the technology.
Metalurgy isn't exactly east to figure out if you've never seen it before.


[26-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Crow#5457
and every time something valuable like oil was discovered on the lands they were forced onto, the US would shuffle them off to even more worthless lands


[26-Aug-20 01:59 PM] >That Guy#3386
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[26-Aug-20 02:00 PM] Crow#5457
there was evidence that north american tribes on the west coast weren't far off from discovering ironworking


[26-Aug-20 02:02 PM] >That Guy#3386
Not fast enough, sadly.


[26-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_America#Iron_in_the_Pacific_Northwest

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Metallurgy in pre-Columbian America
Metallurgy in pre-Columbian America is the extraction, purification and alloying of metals and metal crafting by Indigenous peoples of the Americas prior to European contact in the late 15th century. Indigenous Americans have been using native metals from ancient times, with r...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Peru_Zeremonialmesser_Sican_EthnM.jpg/1200px-Peru_Zeremonialmesser_Sican_EthnM.jpg


[26-Aug-20 02:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
Hmmmm, I guess they did have it with some soft metals.


[26-Aug-20 02:03 PM] >That Guy#3386
Bordering neolithic era tech.


[26-Aug-20 02:06 PM] wren#0114
maybe they could have traded for arms


[26-Aug-20 02:06 PM] wren#0114
but they didn't band together much


[26-Aug-20 02:08 PM] wren#0114
> there was evidence that north american tribes on the west coast weren't far off from discovering ironworking
big yikes


[26-Aug-20 02:10 PM] wren#0114
> er, you don't know how they were forced into deals that prevent them from running industry on their own reservations?
> they literally weren't allowed to incorporate industry on the lands they were forced onto
I'm talking about from the moment they met the first settlers, for a few hundred years, including through wars where they fought with European powers against other European powers


[26-Aug-20 02:11 PM] wren#0114
like, living with just the land and not adapting to industry isn't necessarily wrong, but it was not a survivable approach for their civs


[26-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
uh, they had no chance against the settlers after the diseases europeans brought destroyed their populations


[26-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
you should probably watch guns, germs, and steel


[26-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Crow#5457
or read it


[26-Aug-20 02:26 PM] wren#0114
lmao


[26-Aug-20 02:27 PM] wren#0114
are the germs racist too


[26-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Crow#5457
if you can't see how losing 90% of your population would leave you vulnerable to subjugation, idk what to tell you


[26-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Crow#5457
I don't like admitting this part out loud, but I don't think you're very informed on the topic


[26-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Opponent#3498
nah, the germs thing was inevitable.


[26-Aug-20 02:28 PM] wren#0114
I don't see territorial expansion as racist or evil


[26-Aug-20 02:28 PM] wren#0114
it's existed since the first nations in the world existed


[26-Aug-20 02:28 PM] wren#0114
and I'm sure the tribes fought over land themselves


[26-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
it's amusing that Europe folks, after their multiple plagues, had a much better disease resistance. So, worth?


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Crow#5457
no, but you're arguing that the natives should've fought back better or adapted better or done something different... when they had the entire deck stacked against them from the start


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] wren#0114
they should have


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] wren#0114
now, some of the stuff europeans did was unnecessarily cruel


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a fight they couldn't win though.


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] wren#0114
but the indians aren't some paragon of virtue and the europeans evil monsters


[26-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Opponent#3498
simply couldn't, full stop. Not in the long run.


[26-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
idk how much you know about hernando cortez, the spanish conquistador, but he and his initial expedition was actually handily defeated by the aztec empire when it became clear that cortez wanted to subjugate them and steal their resources


[26-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Crow#5457
they were forced to flee but returned with an army... that they didn't need because over 93% of the population was in the midst of dying from the diseases they carried over


[26-Aug-20 02:31 PM] wren#0114
thousands of years of continent separation does that


[26-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
do you know why europeans had so many plagues to bring?


[26-Aug-20 02:31 PM] wren#0114
I wonder did the europeans catch any north american diseases?


[26-Aug-20 02:31 PM] wren#0114
side thought, kinda off topic


[26-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Crow#5457
because your uninformed state is showing


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
again


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] wren#0114
because eurpeans intermixed with each other and two other continents for germs


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
because they lived in close proximity with their animals in incredibly unhygenic conditions


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] wren#0114
and north america didn't have massive transportation


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
you know, the same thing that caused the black plague


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
think of the chinese wet markets


[26-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Crow#5457
only all of europe did it


[26-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
every single day


[26-Aug-20 02:33 PM] wren#0114
yeah, and they got their own cullings from it like the plagues


[26-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
there wasn't anything stronger than a mild cold in the americas


[26-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Crow#5457
because they never had cesspools that allowed for massive amounts of bacterial and viral mutation


[26-Aug-20 02:34 PM] wren#0114
called cities


[26-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Crow#5457
basically, europeans were so resistant to anything that existed in the americas and had so many nasty diseases to bring over because they lived in disgusting conditions


[26-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Opponent#3498
...and were also motivated by that to spread out.


[26-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Opponent#3498
so, hobos rise up? :squintyjack:  Great adversity is a beauty and all that. Never really bought into it but I guess it works on strategic scale.


[26-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Crow#5457
they were never really motivated to spread out beyond searching for new resources to exploit


[26-Aug-20 02:36 PM] Crow#5457
and religious persecution, of course


[26-Aug-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
gotta justify the greed somehow.


[26-Aug-20 02:38 PM] wren#0114
it's unfortunate for them that they caught the diseases so badly


[26-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't justify treating them shittily for centuries just because they lost


[26-Aug-20 02:39 PM] wren#0114
of course


[26-Aug-20 02:40 PM] wren#0114
territorial wars are still not evil or racist


[26-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Crow#5457
it's funny how gorsuch is so badly undermining the mainstream US conservative position on what native americans should get in return for the shitty treaties they were forced to sign (that is to say, nothing)


[26-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Crow#5457
the US has been attempting for decades to overturn the treaties that its own federal government signed so they can reclaim all the reservation land, but gorsuch is shutting that down hard


[26-Aug-20 02:41 PM] wren#0114
good. people must keep their word.


[26-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Opponent#3498
governments aren't people though.


[26-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
and generally, across the world, have _really_ piss-poor reputation at holding onto the treaties.


[26-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess it's nice that it's held at bay this time though.


[26-Aug-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[26-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Why would we want the reservation?


[26-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Serval#4825
War is not evil?


[26-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Serval#4825
It’s better than the tyranny of peace but..


[26-Aug-20 03:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
resource harvesting


[26-Aug-20 03:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
damn a dude really did just murder two people and injure another and cops just let him walk away


[26-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
The war economy.


[26-Aug-20 03:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
a fucking 17 year old kid with an ar15


[26-Aug-20 03:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
?


[26-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
He was white so of course


[26-Aug-20 03:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
https://mobile.twitter.com/anoncatanoncat/status/1298593763795894272

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LETS GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT:

• Militia shooter backing Blue Lives Matter communicated with police prior to the shooting, accepting bottles of water and getting positive reinforcement by officers.

• Militia shooter shoots a protester at a gas station and runs.

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[26-Aug-20 03:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
he killed two and nastily shot a street medic.


[26-Aug-20 03:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
hopefully he gets charged and punished for what he did, if you look around twitter you can find plenty of assorted vids of the shootings and reactions to the shots, ect


[26-Aug-20 03:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's late as shit here, but yeah, shit's wild, hopefully it'll all be pieced together accurately in the morning.


[26-Aug-20 03:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
I need to sleep.


[26-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tbh why the fuck aren’t BLM carrying guns at this point?


[26-Aug-20 03:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
they should be.


[26-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
I think it's because they fear the cops will open fire on em idk, that and it might be bad optics, but at this point like, at least have conceal carry.


[26-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I mean shoot first and you can last.


[26-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
@prism stryder(intexda) tbf, at this point I’d rather have Rita Repulsa running the country than our current shitshow


[26-Aug-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well, atleast the threat would be giant monsters instead of our own police


[26-Aug-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
<https://imgur.com/t/current_events/fbvW7LM>

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[26-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Phelan#7647
Both shooting incidents were acts of self defence, if I were carrying and being chased, I'd defend my life.


[26-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Phelan#7647
I wouldn't have wanted to need to, but I'd still do it.


[26-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Phelan#7647
The first guy chased him and was throwing stuff at him until they were right near each other, the second guy shot hit the guy with a skateboard, and the third guy (the medic) pointed a handgun at the guy after "surrendering"


[26-Aug-20 04:57 PM] byte[]#2610
didn't expect dissociativity to reveal powerlevel whew


[26-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
without any context and not looking it up, I'd expect them all to steal money from charities in close cooperation :wheeze:


[26-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[26-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
:lul:


[26-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, this is, why even include it? You know how China will react. You know you'll be forced to comply. You KNOW it will start a shitstorm and produce negative PR. Especially with the message you're trying to send.


[26-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
don't need to be a :bigbrain: to figure it all out so why do it?


[26-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Opponent#3498
is the shitstorm really worth the extra publicity?


[26-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude blizzard-activision employers work for food oblivious noone give a shit about anything


[26-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Opponent#3498
people give a shit about how their product is recieved though.


[26-Aug-20 06:43 PM] byte[]#2610
math class coming at me with that communist propaganda :glowing_eyes:

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[26-Aug-20 06:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:wheeze:


[26-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[26-Aug-20 06:52 PM] byte[]#2610
big union is just summation notation for sets

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[26-Aug-20 06:54 PM] jlun2#8758
> Snuffers
:sombralick:

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[26-Aug-20 06:55 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2020/08/25/patrick-rose-four-more-accusers-child-sexual-abuse

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[26-Aug-20 07:16 PM] ononim#8141
damn, walking around [REDACTED] made me miss Odessa


[26-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
too late, the KGB is already en route to your position


[26-Aug-20 08:04 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Aug-20 08:20 PM] byte[]#2610
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[26-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
I work at Amazon and there were people at work who unironically believe that


[26-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Problem ain't the people getting unemployment


[26-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Problem is getting fucking Bezos's pocket change


[26-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Bezos makes more money during the duration of one his farts than 90% of americans make in a year


[26-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/513771-missouri-lawmakers-pass-law-making-it-legal-to-give-guns-to-kids-without

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The GOP-controlled Missouri House on Tuesday advanced a bill that would make it legal to give guns to children wi
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[26-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Hey kid, want a free gun?


[26-Aug-20 08:44 PM] byte[]#2610
this will surely end well


[26-Aug-20 08:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
"It is currently a misdemeanor crime to “recklessly” give a child a gun without their parents’ permission. 

On Tuesday, the state House voted to toss out the existing law and only make it a felony to give firearms to minors if the intent is to avoid arrest or criminal investigation."


[26-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
@ononim well, feel free to come back :P


[26-Aug-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
> Republicans reportedly decided to target the law so grandparents or other family members would not be charged for taking kids shooting or hunting without permission.
wait,this is fine, but video games w/ fictional guns isnt? wtf?


[26-Aug-20 08:58 PM] jlun2#8758
god dammit old people


[26-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Crow#5457
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[26-Aug-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/513777-trump-says-hes-sending-federal-assistance-to-address-wisconsin

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[26-Aug-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/905847150/american-man-accused-of-breaking-canadas-covid-19-rules-faces-560-000-fine

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John Pennington was arrested and charged with violating Canada's Quarantine Act while visiting the town of Banff, Alberta. Police saw his Ohio plates at the parking lot for a sightseeing gondola.
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[26-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[26-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Phelan#7647
Still justified, even if he came out of state (15 miles away)


[26-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This isn't the Dirty Harry-verse


[26-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Teaspoon#9532
In real life you're not supposed to be allowed to murder people because they're scary


[26-Aug-20 10:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was also 17 and illegally carrying a rifle while playing militia vigilante


[26-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He should just turn himself in


[26-Aug-20 10:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
He was there to cause violence, he got confronted and people tried to stop his ass, and then he murdered 2 people


[26-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He's white and probably from a well-off background given he had the money for a rifle and to travel that far


[26-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So he'll be treated as a minor if even sentenced


[26-Aug-20 10:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc30.com/kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake-protests-wisconsin/6389473/

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Now in the third night of unrest, the protests unfolded after Jacob Blake, a Black man, was shot by police.
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[26-Aug-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
According to a criminal complaint, 17-year old Kyle Rittenhouse is charged in Wisconsin with first-degree intentional homicide. Rittenhouse is being held at a juvenile facility in Illinois. According to Antioch Police Department, Rittenhouse is from the city's suburbs.

According to Antioch Police, Rittenhouse was arrested this morning in Antioch on a juvenile fugitive from justice warrant out of Wisconsin. Antioch police said he is being held pending an extradition hearing scheduled for Friday.


[26-Aug-20 10:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
See, juvenile


[26-Aug-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Rittenhouse has been assigned a public defender and will make his first court appearance Friday.


[26-Aug-20 10:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If he were black all those cops he was calmly walking past would have ventilated him, all claiming they were scared for their lives as a 300 pound murder machine barrelled toward them


[26-Aug-20 10:34 PM] wren#0114

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[26-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
by that time, he had already shot someone


[26-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Crow#5457
that was why they were chasing him to begin with


[26-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nice how the video cuts out the part where the police completely ignore him


[26-Aug-20 10:35 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/513802-biden-burning-down-communities-is-not-protest

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Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Wednesday pushed for calm amid an outbreak of violent protests in Kenosha, Wis., over the police shooting of a Black man, saying that destroying property and burning down neighborhoods will not achieve racial justice.
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[26-Aug-20 10:36 PM] wren#0114
extended vid with that part

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[26-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Phelan#7647
I hope he walks
Only thing I think they might be able to get him on is weapons charges.


[26-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Phelan#7647
@Teaspoon >travel that far
>15 miles


[26-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He wasn't defending his home or his neighbourhood


[26-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Phelan#7647
This is how far the two cities are

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[26-Aug-20 10:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was out to be a menace and live out a stupid fantasy


[26-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Phelan#7647
It was still "in the community".
Also, I don't think he wanted to kill based on the fact that he didn't just start shooting indiscriminately


[26-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
That dude was defending himself tho


[26-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Neo-Bushwhacker, tbh


[26-Aug-20 10:42 PM] Crow#5457
@Phelan, at the point in the video, he had already shot and killed someone


[26-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Crow#5457
that was why they were following him to begin with


[26-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Pardon me, Jayhawker


[26-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Itsthinking#8251
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[26-Aug-20 10:43 PM] Phelan#7647
He was running away from the first guy that got shot. Shooting at someone charging at you is absolutely justified.


[26-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Crow#5457
did you just ignore what I just said? at that point in time, he had already shot and killed someone


[26-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is there any evidence?


[26-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Maybe he needed to kill more because threatened


[26-Aug-20 10:44 PM] Phelan#7647
I'm talking about the guy he shot in the head, that dude was chasing him before getting shot.


[26-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Phelan#7647
That was the first guy to get shot


[26-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Man


[26-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's a shame that the only person to use a broadsword in all of this was that random drunk brony that was asking for trouble


[26-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Running away from the first guy he killed, you mean


[26-Aug-20 10:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not "got shot"


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The guy didn't walk into a bullet


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It wasn't a passive action


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The kid pulled the trigger on another person


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And murdered them


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Phelan#7647
And, the guy was trying to jump him


[26-Aug-20 10:46 PM] Phelan#7647
that's not murder to kill someone charging at you.


[26-Aug-20 10:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they were trying to fucking stop him


[26-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you Crow on mute or something


[26-Aug-20 10:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He'd already killed someone by then


[26-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Phelan#7647
No, there were two separate shootings
First shooting was the red shirt guy that chased him into a parking lot and got shot the second was the two people getting shot after running away from the red shirt guy.


[26-Aug-20 10:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he decided to be a militant vigilante, killed someone, got dchased by peopel trying to stop his ass, and killed another person and injured another after realizing he fucked up and was cornered,


[26-Aug-20 10:48 PM] Opponent#3498
not the smartest move, a lone guy can't achive much.


[26-Aug-20 10:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZ-aS7Qzk4

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Kenosha protest shooting caught on video
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[26-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He shoot two ppl on this video too


[26-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It there any evidence that dude shoot three people?


[26-Aug-20 10:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Like witnesses or another video?


[26-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Phelan#7647
It's on a separate video, I'll need to find it. It was the first guy he shot.


[26-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Crow#5457
yes, multiple witnesses saw him shoot someone, that's why they were following him...


[26-Aug-20 10:52 PM] wren#0114

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[26-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Phelan#7647
First video I found, guy with the gun was being chased
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Great video sync of multiple angles of first self defense shooting by #kylerittenhouse. You can clearly see the chase, molotov get thrown, and then the attempted theft of his rifle.

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[26-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Phelan#7647
Guy in white is the guy with the gun, guy in blue is the one who got shot.


[26-Aug-20 10:53 PM] Phelan#7647
Surrounded by a white/blue box*


[26-Aug-20 10:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So its self defense?


[26-Aug-20 10:55 PM] Phelan#7647
Charging someone has typically been considered self defence, yes.


[26-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I see,thanks you for video.


[26-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Opponent#3498
shame the rest of the pic had to come from a source with such cringeworthy name xD


[26-Aug-20 10:56 PM] Crow#5457
oh boy, he threw a bag at him, better kill him


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He tried to grab his weapon


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
but someone gotta do it.


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Crow#5457
that's not shown in this video...


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Opponent#3498
he closed into melee and got shot.


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its in description of that video


[26-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Phelan#7647
Charging someone is an act of aggression.


[26-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. The angle's not great. But by the time the intent became obvious to the onlookers it'd be too late for self-defense.


[26-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
that wasn't a molotov cocktail, that was a plastic bag...


[26-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Crow#5457
you can see it blow back after it was thrown


[26-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Phelan#7647
When did I say it was a molotov


[26-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Crow#5457
that's what the description of the video calls it


[26-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's in the tweet you linked


[26-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, the guy that posted the tweet messed up, but it's still video evidence of the guy getting charged at before acting in self defence.


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Phelan#7647
You'd have a point if charging at someone wasn't an act of aggression.


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And he did not tried to run away after he shoot him,i think he was calling ambulance


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
except he did run away


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
that's why people were chasing him later on


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Phelan#7647
He stuck around until a mob started chasing him.


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause angry mob screamed at him


[26-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
... you can see him run off before people started screaming at him


[26-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Phelan#7647
He literally was trying to turn himself in when getting to officers.


[26-Aug-20 11:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
0.35 someone started yelling at him but sound is out for some reasons


[26-Aug-20 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
all I'm hearing is "call 911" and "need a medic"


[26-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
...


[26-Aug-20 11:03 PM] Crow#5457
it's starting to seem like you two are purposefully being as obtuse as possible, which is bad faith


[26-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Phelan#7647
No?


[26-Aug-20 11:04 PM] Opponent#3498
make that three, then. While I disagree with many things on the tweet, the video's pretty clear cut (as far as random smartphone shots go).


[26-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Opponent#3498
and the mob moving in would be a pretty good reason to start running, shouting or not. They're out of the frame.


[26-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/office-special-counsel-hatch-act-rnc-complaints

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[26-Aug-20 11:06 PM] wren#0114
2?


[26-Aug-20 11:06 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean this Hatch thing is dead and buried anyway.


[26-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Opponent#3498
people do business while on the politics job, people do politics while on the government job... By modern standards something so minor it's not worth mentioning.


[26-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, and the guy didn't just bolt off immediately, he came back for a few seconds.
There's no camera angle showing people chasing him, but that doesn't mean someone saw and ran after him.
Could've been running to turn himself in for all we know.


[26-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
leaving at all is the issue


[26-Aug-20 11:14 PM] Crow#5457
it's why people started chasing him


[26-Aug-20 11:17 PM] wren#0114
I wish there was a vid with an angle on the first shooting


[26-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
@wren the one above. That's the one.


[26-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Phelan#7647
That video I posted was literally the best we got but yea, more angles are always welcome


[26-Aug-20 11:18 PM] wren#0114
but not obstructed


[26-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, yeah, that's not great.


[26-Aug-20 11:19 PM] Phelan#7647
If he stayed, I think that people would try to attack him and we could've ended up with more deaths.


[26-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
considering that people were literally yelling that they were chasing him because he ran, that casts doubt on the hypothetical that he would've been attacked if he stayed put


[26-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Crow#5457
people were yelling "he shot someone"


[26-Aug-20 11:20 PM] wren#0114
chasing is bad idea if they just saw him shoot someone


[26-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
people charged him because he was there. People chased him because he ran. People shot him because he shot before they did. It's always like this.


[26-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Opponent#3498
typical human nature, to justify whatever stupidity you gonna do next.


[26-Aug-20 11:21 PM] Phelan#7647
I wouldn't want to take the chance that people are gonna be peaceful if I stayed, I'd try to turn myself in as soon as I saw someone else is attending to him.


[26-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
he shouldn't have been there _at all_. But so long as he was, this was pretty much his only set of options.


[26-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
also really wtf are you doing charging an armed guy who's running away? And that goes to the original guy too.


[26-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, not only were they chasing someone that was armed, but armed and just killed someone.


[26-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
well even just armed, but yes.


[26-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
there's plenty of video evidence just in this tweet to get him into court, so justice isn't really a good motivation. Unless you want to take matters into your own hands.


[26-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Phelan#7647
He should get tried on weapons charges, not murder (especially not in the first degree)


[26-Aug-20 11:28 PM] wren#0114
the riots need to end


[26-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
people chased him because he shot someone and ran... I don't understand why this is so hard to understand


[26-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
people warning other people that this dude's shooting people is normal behavior


[26-Aug-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the crowd was trying to disarm him so he couldnt murder more people


[26-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
crows do the same thing with predators


[26-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Crow#5457
follow them around cawing loudly

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[26-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Without trying to melee him.


[26-Aug-20 11:31 PM] wren#0114
jump kicking him and grabbing his rifle, what did they expect


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] wren#0114
that's not one for them to do, that's for the cops


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the cops jsut let him walk away


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] wren#0114
and now have an arrest warrant


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after city complaints


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Phelan#7647
They assaulted him, tried to take his gun, and then aiming a gun at him.


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
so what then? If the cops let him walk away, your only _other_ option is to kill him.


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm sorry did i miss something


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Opponent#3498
following that logic, the self-defense on his side is justified.


[26-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Phelan#7647
It took a few hours to get an arrest warrant... which isn't surprising.


[26-Aug-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
@Gordon Freeman your new job is follow @Phelan and caw loudly.


[26-Aug-20 11:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok
@Phelan CAW!


[26-Aug-20 11:33 PM] Opponent#3498
make us proud.


[26-Aug-20 11:33 PM] Phelan#7647
rood

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[26-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
crows also throw pebbles and sticks

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[26-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Phelan#7647
rooder


[26-Aug-20 11:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and dive bomb the person they're chasing


[26-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Phelan#7647
rooderer


[26-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok but really what happened who shot who and why


[26-Aug-20 11:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a mitilarized vigilante decided to murder a protestor, then ran because others were trying to disarm him and hold him to the gorund so he couldnt kill more people, he then proceeded to kill 1 or 2 other people and injure another


[26-Aug-20 11:36 PM] Phelan#7647
>disarm him
How would he know that they weren't trying to kill him


[26-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Phelan#7647
First thing they did was assault him while he was on the ground.


[26-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
@Gordon Freeman basicly watch the two videos above.


[26-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
the one in the 'antifa-watches-us' or w/e, then the one before that, it's the correct order.


[26-Aug-20 11:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dotn really give a fuck what panic he went through in hsi mind as they tried to disarm him, it wasnt justified

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[26-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Phelan from the sound of things he allready murdred someone


[26-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
that's what the first video is about.


[26-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So fuck him for murdering someone


[26-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Phelan#7647
The guy in that antifa-watchers-us video was the first guy he shot.


[26-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, the guy charged him. Unprompted.


[26-Aug-20 11:39 PM] Phelan#7647
Second and third guys were chasing him afterwards. Second guy smashed his skateboard over the guys head and third guy aimed a handgun after faking a surrender.


[26-Aug-20 11:41 PM] Phelan#7647
This was the first shooting

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[26-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Phelan#7647
And this was the second shooting
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[26-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I can't really see what excatly was thrown at him, but considering it didn't explode i dont think it was a moltove


[26-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's a bag or something, the author's wrong.


[26-Aug-20 11:43 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea it wasn't, but charging at someone is still a violent act.
If you corner an animal, you're gonna get bit


[26-Aug-20 11:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you attack a member of a pack  of animals, you;re going to get charged


[26-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Til humans are wild animals


[26-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Serval#4825
You have a split second to decide if they’re throwing a molotov or a bag, what do you pick


[26-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Phelan#7647
It's a figure of speech, but when adrenaline is running, people tend to act on instinct.


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And that instinct was wrong


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
He murdered him


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Phelan#7647
Self preservation is the strongest instinct.


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
if you can't tell the difference between a molotov cocktail and a plastic bag, you probably need glasses


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Opponent#3498
well the guy was closing in and running was proving to fail.


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
End of story


[26-Aug-20 11:45 PM] Phelan#7647
He killed the guy, but I don't feel that it was murder


[26-Aug-20 11:46 PM] wren#0114
it sounded like two sources of fire in the first shooting


[26-Aug-20 11:46 PM] wren#0114
but I can't tell


[26-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Crow#5457
not to mention that he shot the guy who threw the bag like 10 seconds after the bag was thrown


[26-Aug-20 11:46 PM] wren#0114
what's the bag got anything to do with it?


[26-Aug-20 11:46 PM] Phelan#7647
There was a bag that was thrown and it was initially misreported as a molotov


[26-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
>i dont feel that it was murder

Something something facts dont care about your feelings something something


[26-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Phelan#7647
...murder requires intent...


[26-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Opponent#3498
@wren someone shot once (I think the rifle guy fired a warning shot), then 4 shots into the attacker, then 3 more shots.


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he went in there with a rifle


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there was clearly intent to use the rifle


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Phelan#7647
acting in self defence, which I honestly think he was, would not constitute murder.


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So its mansualter? Not that much of a difference


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] wren#0114
it sounded like 1 shot, then a pause, then A B AA


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] wren#0114
>went in there with a rifle
as did some antifa protestors


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] wren#0114
having a gun isn't wrong


[26-Aug-20 11:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he actively answered a militia call to action


[26-Aug-20 11:49 PM] wren#0114
what?


[26-Aug-20 11:49 PM] Phelan#7647
He was trying to run away from the first guy that was about to be killed, that is a way to de-escalate.


[26-Aug-20 11:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he was identified by people through a post he made on a site about his being in a militia


[26-Aug-20 11:52 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Whatever the original intent, he reconsidered and was disengaging.


[26-Aug-20 11:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
after he murdered a guy, once you kill a guy that;s a point of no return, you deal with the consequences


[26-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Opponent#3498
no, he was disengaging _before_ that.


[26-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Phelan#7647
...we're talking about the first guy


[26-Aug-20 11:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we dont knwo if he was disengaging or not, for all you knwo he was looking for a stake out spot


[26-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Serval#4825
Me when I meet the flawless being capable of detecting everyone’s intent simultaneously

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[26-Aug-20 11:55 PM] Phelan#7647
It's more likely he was sprinting to get away from a guy chasing him than him trying to scout out a spot.


[26-Aug-20 11:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m talkign about before the chase began


[26-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Opponent#3498
for all we know the guy who chased him, who didn't stop with 2 warnings, was going to murder him and _then_ go free as a BLM hero.


[26-Aug-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
him walking before the chase began does not indicate disengagement


[26-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Opponent#3498
'for all we know' isn't good enough, we have the videos for a reason.


[26-Aug-20 11:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we have videos that dont tell the whole picture, and that;s just as important


[26-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Phelan#7647
There's no video of that, so you cant really speculate on that.
I could just as easily speculate that he was running to get a working covid vaccine from one lab to another.


[26-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Phelan#7647
What are the odds of that, pretty much 0, but still.


[26-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
well we have more of a picture than we did before, which is important.


[26-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Opponent#3498
now it's not just 'he decided to murder', which is the most important thing.


[26-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Phelan#7647
yea, murder requires intent.


[26-Aug-20 11:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
hels in custody now, so we may get a fuller picture out of testimony if that gets released tot he public


[27-Aug-20 12:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you dont know that he didnt have intent


[27-Aug-20 12:01 AM] JC Denton#7076
Uh oh better call the police


[27-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Phelan#7647
The dude that got shot was being confrontational to the armed militia members prior to the shooting, so I could see the initial escalation be caused by the guy that got shot.


[27-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Just words?


[27-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Phelan#7647
Getting in their faces and telling them "what are you gonna do, shoot me". Again, I haven't seen any video on why the red shirt guy decided to give chase.


[27-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Words alone generally not enough IIRC


[27-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's w/e. The issue is about the chase itself.


[27-Aug-20 12:04 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I just gave a bit of context to show that he was already agitated. If the shooter was scouting out a sniper position, I'd gladly eat my words

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[27-Aug-20 12:05 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Just by looking at that vid tho id say its a manslaughter charge at the very least


[27-Aug-20 12:06 AM] Phelan#7647
Why, charging at someone usually is assault.


[27-Aug-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
assault doesnt automatically get you a self defense for killing someone


[27-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Phelan#7647
No, but it makes a damn good case.


[27-Aug-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's liek walking into a bar fight, and killign the person who punched you first


[27-Aug-20 12:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
shit doesnt work like that


[27-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Phelan#7647
If you think your life is in danger, yea you can use deadly force to defend yourself.


[27-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Being tackled is life endangering now


[27-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Phelan#7647
The fact that the guy was chasing the shooter showed that the guy wasn't interested in de-escalating.


[27-Aug-20 12:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
It gets very messy with whether you thought your life was in danger.


[27-Aug-20 12:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, but it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 
I can understand why he thought his life was in danger.


[27-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
But he was wrong so manslaughter


[27-Aug-20 12:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Being wrong is irrelevant.


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
If you thought your life was in danger, and not out of sheer idiocy, you can use self-defense, lethally.


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] wren#0114
punched by one on the way running, tripped, got jump stomped by another (who didn't get shot), got attacked by 2 close range, they tried to take his rifle from him


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] wren#0114
how tf was he not in danger


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely this will be found justified by the courts.


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
In general if you start getting assaulted like crazy, you can shoot people.


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Opponent#3498
also btw rewatching the first video. It seems someone else was shooting as well, although not either of the two.


[27-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wisconsin statute


[27-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`"A person is privileged to threaten or intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his or her person by such other person. The actor may intentionally use only such force or threat thereof as the actor reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. The actor may not intentionally use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless the actor reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself."`


[27-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Yay for "the reasonable person"


[27-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Opponent#3498
0.05 comment - 'he got a gun baby' (the running guy), 0.07 single shot, 'ooh, they shootin', 0.09 the rifle guy shoots 4 times, 0.12 - someone else (?) shoots 3 times, sound's noticeable different from the rifle.


[27-Aug-20 12:14 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant. `


[27-Aug-20 12:15 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
What would be great bodly harm tho


[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Opponent#3498
whatever was going on there was very messy and we could use a bigger picture on the entire thing.


[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes


[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
indeed


[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] Phelan#7647
Assault. Also, the guy could've easily grab the shooter's gun and use it on the shooter instead.


[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] wren#0114
this alone, as well as having a mob descending on you in general

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[27-Aug-20 12:16 AM] wren#0114
this guy wasn't shot thankfully


[27-Aug-20 12:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone else had a reasonable belief that the shooter was going to kill them next :^)


[27-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Phelan#7647
no... not really...


[27-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Opponent#3498
so why on earth follow him? @ TSP


[27-Aug-20 12:19 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because he's a threat to others


[27-Aug-20 12:19 AM] JC Denton#7076
Thats what they said about Ahmaud huh


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Phelan#7647
He was a threat to people who tried to assault him.


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that's basicly a blanket justification for more or less anything.


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Ah yes, the unarmed guy jogging and minding his own business


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Teaspoon#9532
1:1 situation


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
You guys do raise some good points. This enter thing is muddy and should be investigated by people who have all the evidence.


[27-Aug-20 12:20 AM] Opponent#3498
...which of the people involved was minding their own business here?


[27-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Opponent#3498
okay, the guys with the cameras did, and I'm grateful for that.


[27-Aug-20 12:21 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, should be investigated, but I feel that he'll probably get the charges related to the deaths dropped. Might get weapons charges tho,


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If him carrying the rifle is a felony


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If this was a case of assault first then it would be self defence but it all hangs on why was the guy runing in the first place


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And people died during the commission of that felony


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Sounds like murder


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Whatever happened off camera


[27-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Phelan#7647
No one  knows, but running away from someone is still attempting to de-escalate.


[27-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Eh not really. Hit and run tactics are warfare 101


[27-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hit and runs are now "deescalation" :^)


[27-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Bruh moment


[27-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm talking about before anyone was shot.


[27-Aug-20 12:23 AM] Opponent#3498
hit and run implies having a hit first. It's in the name.


[27-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
so, that's for the police (har har but who else, unless more vids show up) to find out


[27-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes but a blanket statement of runing = desculation is silly


[27-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Opponent#3498
the current information does not give a reason to believe otherwise.


[27-Aug-20 12:24 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And thats why we need more


[27-Aug-20 12:25 AM] Opponent#3498
what I'd personally ask is how did the rifle guy get separated from his buddies. And why.


[27-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Untill then my kneejerk is still going to be  manslaughter but there is a case of self defence to be made here


[27-Aug-20 12:26 AM] Opponent#3498
cause this isn't smart, you're isolated, people might do something stupid.


[27-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Anyway cops still need massive reform in the US beacuse of Laffet square and the poor guy who was shot 7 times in the back. Riots are also bad. Mansualter assult and muder are bad


[27-Aug-20 12:27 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Im going to take a nap


[27-Aug-20 12:46 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I saw a new angle, it looks like the guy chasing him threw an empty plastic bag from several feet away, didn't even come close to him


[27-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, identifying it as a molotov was big derp


[27-Aug-20 01:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/kenosha-police-thanked-armed-militia-and-gave-water-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 01:07 AM] Phelan#7647
And?


[27-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Police really shouldn't take sides like this, or even give the appearance of doing so.


[27-Aug-20 01:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It's why the ones who laugh about people who want police reform wanting police to help them do things are not helpful


[27-Aug-20 01:11 AM] Serval#4825
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[27-Aug-20 01:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character."


[27-Aug-20 01:13 AM] Phelan#7647
They deleted Kyle's GoFundMe and my asking them why has double the likes of GFM's post about Anthony


[27-Aug-20 01:15 AM] Phelan#7647
Nevermind, their post has 15 likes and mine has 60

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[27-Aug-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-officials-reportedly-pressured-cdc-on-coronavirus-testing-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 01:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Top Trump officials reportedly pressured the CDC to narrow its coronavirus testing guidelines to exclude asymptomatic people


[27-Aug-20 01:32 AM] Opponent#3498
define exclude. Deny if people come or?


[27-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
if so, that's bs.


[27-Aug-20 01:33 AM] Opponent#3498
if it means exclude them from some form of mandatory testing, then by all means.


[27-Aug-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"If you have been in close contact, within 6 feet, of a person with a COVID-19 infection for at least 15 minutes but do not have symptoms, you do not necessarily need a test unless you are a vulnerable individual or your health care provider or state or local public health officials recommend you take one," the updated criteria reads.


[27-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Opponent#3498
ok but is this testing mandatory or not?


[27-Aug-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not mandatory


[27-Aug-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
testign in the us isnt mandatory unless you;re travelling to or from the us


[27-Aug-20 01:38 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or are near a politician

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[27-Aug-20 01:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people are advised to get real clsoe to their representative so they can be tested by state officials who will tackle them to the ground


[27-Aug-20 01:41 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least the travelling bit used to apply for other pandemics, i;m not sure about this one since trump changed that whole thing


[27-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Opponent#3498
of course he did. :hopeless:


[27-Aug-20 01:46 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he basically dismantled the pandemic task force early in his presidency because "they were an unnecessary business expense and he can hire more if he needs them"


[27-Aug-20 01:46 AM] Opponent#3498
:bigbrain:


[27-Aug-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
that's not the only 'we don't need an emergency supply, we can always get more' decision made though, isn't it


[27-Aug-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
hurricane response teams? well, mostly brown people live in louisiana


[27-Aug-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
dismantled, diverted to pay for wall (which is already falling over in some places and being trivially cut through in others)


[27-Aug-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
and don't forget that this is the guy who wanted to swap greenland for puerto rico and called PR a shithole


[27-Aug-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now he and esper are working on dismantling the military medical branches because "private medicine can handle things and we need that money for more weapons testing"


[27-Aug-20 02:00 AM] Opponent#3498
can't imagine that's too popular with the military personnel.


[27-Aug-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump has also promised to do away with the payroll tax if he gets re-elected because it "costs businesses too much"


[27-Aug-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the payroll tax is what funds medicare/social security


[27-Aug-20 02:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-chief-of-staff-says-nobody-cares-hatch-act-violations-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so many quiet parts said outloud


[27-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Opponent#3498
that's the strat I guess.


[27-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
Chad Wolf


[27-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Opponent#3498
what a name.


[27-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Opponent#3498
:nut:


[27-Aug-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/513823-milwaukee-bucks-boycott-nba-playoff-game-to-protest-jacob-blake-shooting

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The Milwaukee Bucks boycotted their playoff game against the Orlando Magic on Wednesday afternoon to protest the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis., on Sunday.
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[27-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Opponent#3498
their opponents didn't and got a free win :twismug:

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[27-Aug-20 02:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/513862-wisconsin-officials-identify-officer-in-jacob-blake-shooting

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Wisconsin officials identify officer in Jacob Blake shooting
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[27-Aug-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul (D) on Wednesday announced more details regarding the police shooting of Jacob Blake, including the identity of one of the officers involved. 
> 
> Kenosha Police Officer Rusten Sheskey allegedly fired all seven shots toward Blake, Kaul said. Sheskey is a seven-year veteran of the police department.


[27-Aug-20 02:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
17 year old illegally takes someone else's AR15 past state borders to illegally carry his firearm around, shoots a homeless person, starts running when people chase him,


[27-Aug-20 02:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
people stan him anyway.


[27-Aug-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m gonna wait for more details on that before commenting further


[27-Aug-20 02:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
but no, everyone else is a 'criminal' and 'thug'


[27-Aug-20 02:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
he drove 30 minutes to start shit, he's a fuckin minor lol


[27-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, he also murdered 2 people


[27-Aug-20 02:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
a blue lives matter obsessed weirdo minor


[27-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or was it 3?


[27-Aug-20 02:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
he should be charged as an adult for doing big boy crimes yes.


[27-Aug-20 02:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
he murdered two, injured a third nastily, shot straight through the arm afaik, pic was awful looking


[27-Aug-20 02:28 AM] dissociativity#8391
the dude he injured was a street medic, the street medic should've shot him honestly.


[27-Aug-20 02:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
kid decided to play big boy games, should win big boy prizes.


[27-Aug-20 02:29 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now it;s up in the air whether things will get lowered to a self defense, with weapons charge. or if he goes to juvie for murder


[27-Aug-20 02:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
but instead it appears the street medic put his hands up.


[27-Aug-20 02:29 AM] Opponent#3498
he tried shooting him so you were right about that ;)


[27-Aug-20 02:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
and got shot.
he's pictured afterwards with a gun in the injured arm


[27-Aug-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now he's been arrested and charged with murder


[27-Aug-20 02:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
the footage while he was shot afaik he wasn't holding a gun, he only grabbed it after or while actually being shot at.


[27-Aug-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and sent to a juvie facility to await his trial on friday


[27-Aug-20 02:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
which y'know, self defense, fair enough.
better be charged as an adult.


[27-Aug-20 02:30 AM] dissociativity#8391
he's old enough to know better than this.


[27-Aug-20 02:31 AM] dissociativity#8391
an adult no doubt would've responded more rationally even if they were a right wing militia fuck.


[27-Aug-20 02:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
like we all saw people run when they heard live shots, it's not like people had to die to know it was time to get the fuck out lol


[27-Aug-20 02:34 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. They apparently all ran towards the shooter, trying to be martyrs.


[27-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
A black man's doing life in prison for stealing garden supplies. This little dweeb had better not get less than that.


[27-Aug-20 02:40 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"We don't shun people who think for themselves"


[27-Aug-20 02:40 AM] Opponent#3498
life is probably off the table entirely


[27-Aug-20 02:40 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Also it's Derpibooru's special coverage of RNC


[27-Aug-20 02:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I'm opposed to the death penalty but I do think this guy should never have another moment's freedom.


[27-Aug-20 02:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"Donald Trump is fighting for you"


[27-Aug-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
who's saying  what dumb thing now?


[27-Aug-20 02:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Right now it's Scott Dane. Some guy who logs for a living in Minnesota.


[27-Aug-20 02:42 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they got a lot of randos for this, huh?


[27-Aug-20 02:43 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Scott Dane: "Donald Trump's presidency saw a decrease in wildfires"


[27-Aug-20 02:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m seeing marsha blacklburn


[27-Aug-20 02:45 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking now: Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee Senator


[27-Aug-20 02:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah here;s the police worship speech


[27-Aug-20 02:47 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Police don't expect things from america"


[27-Aug-20 02:48 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"That sounds like a lot like Communist to me"


[27-Aug-20 02:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:hopeless:


[27-Aug-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and yet you  advocate for the man who sacrifices nothing and demands people sacrifice for him


[27-Aug-20 02:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Dan Crenshaw's eye pierced


[27-Aug-20 02:51 AM] Opponent#3498
he's sacrificing his eternal soul.


[27-Aug-20 02:52 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"Take the president's orders and toss 'em"


[27-Aug-20 02:59 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking now: ~~Tara Strong~~ Tera Myers, mother of special needs child


[27-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Opponent#3498
she antivax? Tara


[27-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Marches[45]#0674
RNC: Republican National Circus.


[27-Aug-20 03:06 AM] byte[]#2610
official RNC theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQVbUwGoxhc

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[27-Aug-20 03:11 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/26/21403004/facebook-kenosha-militia-groups-shooting-blm-protest

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[27-Aug-20 03:25 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Nice one, Zuck


[27-Aug-20 03:27 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
F*cking Zuckerberg.


[27-Aug-20 03:33 AM] byte[]#2610
when facebook posts cringe in the chat

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[27-Aug-20 03:37 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Aug-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
this is america


[27-Aug-20 03:40 AM] byte[]#2610
don't catch you slippin now


[27-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Did they release where he got shot


[27-Aug-20 03:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Because if those shots correlate to reality there's no way in heck he'd be alive


[27-Aug-20 04:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/513876-police-group-leader-calls-biden-harris-most-radical-anti-police-ticket-in

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[27-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
The confusion in messaging the GOP has to deal with is kinda genius


[27-Aug-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
`"And as a senator, Kamala Harris pushed to further restrict police, cut their training and make our American communities and streets even more dangerous than they are.”`


[27-Aug-20 04:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
She would _put parents in prison for their kids being truants._


[27-Aug-20 04:07 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
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[27-Aug-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Aug-20 04:16 AM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Aug-20 04:18 AM] Teaspoon#9532
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[27-Aug-20 05:57 AM] >That Guy#3386
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[27-Aug-20 05:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
how about don't


[27-Aug-20 05:58 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
“Are you not entertained”


[27-Aug-20 05:59 AM] >That Guy#3386
"Is this not what you came to see?"


[27-Aug-20 05:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It really, really is not


[27-Aug-20 06:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
If this is your idea of a hero then we all should be villains


[27-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Those were supposed to be jokes


[27-Aug-20 06:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Jokes are supposed to be funny


[27-Aug-20 06:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
And/or references


[27-Aug-20 06:02 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Humor is subjective I don’t find the image funny but I just like making reference


[27-Aug-20 06:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
'cause see, what I see here is that in the process of making jokes and references, you're glorifying this kid and his actions


[27-Aug-20 06:02 AM] >That Guy#3386
I'd put them in #memes-and-shitposts but these are too political


[27-Aug-20 06:03 AM] >That Guy#3386
Everyone in that situation was a dumbass.

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[27-Aug-20 06:04 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You're laughing. People are dying in the street and you're laughing.


[27-Aug-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
>walking into a riot knowing there'd be violence
>Trying to punch someone who has a gun


[27-Aug-20 06:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I just scrolled through a backlog of you and others trying to justify his actions as self-defense


[27-Aug-20 06:05 AM] >That Guy#3386
I haven't talked about him all day.


[27-Aug-20 06:06 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
I don’t really care as long as he lands in juvie for murder I’ll be fine with it


[27-Aug-20 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and that's it? That's the end of the problems you saw with that situation?


[27-Aug-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't really care. I'm just going to post memes without regard to who they glorify.


[27-Aug-20 06:07 AM] >That Guy#3386
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274771981428326400/748365769590571048/kenosha.jpg

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[27-Aug-20 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's what we call "acting in bad faith" but be my guest to suffer the consequences


[27-Aug-20 06:07 AM] Opponent#3498
interesting definition of 'acting' and 'bad faith'.


[27-Aug-20 06:08 AM] >That Guy#3386
What consequences?


[27-Aug-20 06:08 AM] Opponent#3498
also an interesting definition of 'trying'.


[27-Aug-20 06:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Oh, I don't know, maybe looking like you think the kid with the gun was justified in his actions


[27-Aug-20 06:09 AM] >That Guy#3386
I don't really care what random discord users think.


[27-Aug-20 06:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you certainly seem to be perfectly fine with ignoring other people's opinions in the course of expressing your own


[27-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
well, what I think doesn't need repeating


[27-Aug-20 06:10 AM] Opponent#3498
also luckily for me, I'm across the ocean.


[27-Aug-20 06:10 AM] >That Guy#3386
What are you talking about?


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
not to mention said 17 year old was there illegally carrying someone else's gun afaik


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
bye


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Teaspoon#9532
banned


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] Opponent#3498
that was uncalled for.


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
he was already a criminal


[27-Aug-20 06:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
those consequences


[27-Aug-20 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
he killed a fuckin homeless dude for (and the right says it's a molotov), a coke bottle in a plastic bag thrown at him


[27-Aug-20 06:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
and then he ran away and people wanted naturally, to take down the active shooter.
you can call them brave and stupid, but saying what they did is wrong is horrifically inhumane.


[27-Aug-20 06:14 AM] Opponent#3498
he killed him for charging him. While being shot at (??? this one is questionable but someone was shooting at something and there was only one available target).


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
bro, running from the scene as an active shooter isn't self defense.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
and yes, he was absolutely a criminal for being there. No question.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
he wasn't active shooter by then. Not yet anyway.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
by the time he was running, yes he was


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
he was fleeing the scene of an active shooting, he'd shot a homeless man who threw a coke bottle in a bag at him.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
he was running from the hobo. Watch the vid.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
there's more than one video


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Opponent#3498
the first one, then.


[27-Aug-20 06:15 AM] dissociativity#8391
in the head. The homeless person at the gas station was dead, he then flee'd the scene.


[27-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah. I imagine that's when the lynch mob started forming.


[27-Aug-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
he shot someone in a head, and then fled the scene with people chasing him for murdering someone.


[27-Aug-20 06:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not a "lynch mob"


[27-Aug-20 06:16 AM] Opponent#3498
it didn't have a chance to become one for realsies, yeah.


[27-Aug-20 06:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is not self defense, this is preventing people from apprehending an active shooter, it's illegal.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Opponent#3498
after all, the label is only appled post-factum.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
self defense doesn't apply to you when you're an active shooter who just shot a homeless person in the head for throwing a coke bottle at you, you are illegally fleeing the scene.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think you understand what a lynch mob is


[27-Aug-20 06:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
right wingers are trying to say the coke bottle in a bag was a fuckin molotov to justify it ofc, but other video perspectives clearly show it's not one.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 AM] Opponent#3498
people willing to apply street justice to you with lethal consequences.


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
good for them. I'm not trying to.


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
and you know these people wanted to kill him and not disarm and apprehend him how?


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
isn't a good guy with a gun supposed to stop a bad guy with a gun?


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
and you know they did, how?


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what was he gonna do, kill the kid with a skateboard?


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yes. You can very well use a piece of wood to kill someone.


[27-Aug-20 06:18 AM] dissociativity#8391
wouldn't taking down the active shooter be the correct course of action to prevent more loss of life?


[27-Aug-20 06:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
and if he died, that would be self defense from an active shooter, maybe manslaughter, unnecessary use of force.


[27-Aug-20 06:19 AM] dissociativity#8391
everyone all about a good guy taking out active shooters until it's a white vigilante


[27-Aug-20 06:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also, I think your concept of "street justice" is gonna take some further explaining because from where I stand, that has nothing to do with what a lynch mob is


[27-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, lynch mob was originally racially motivated iirc.


[27-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
blame the blacks for all the crimes in the world and such. That's not how it's applied across the world though.


[27-Aug-20 06:20 AM] dissociativity#8391
he wasn't attacked for being white, he was attacked for being an active shooter and trying to flee the scene.


[27-Aug-20 06:20 AM] Opponent#3498
probably a bad choice, now that I think about. We _are_ talking about US.


[27-Aug-20 06:21 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's how it's applied here. This is like arguing that because "gift" means something else in German that it's not a good thing here


[27-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
fair.


[27-Aug-20 06:21 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I did not mean to imply racial motivation. Although I bet the crowd would be more hesitant to rush a black guy, including the original hobo.


[27-Aug-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Future reference, if you wanna describe someone ganging up on a victim, just call them a "mob," because lynch mobs are and always will be in reference to racial hate crimes in the US

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[27-Aug-20 06:22 AM] Opponent#3498
noted.


[27-Aug-20 06:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you want to describe people ganging up on an *active shooter,* don't use that term either


[27-Aug-20 06:24 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, because with ample evidence and police presence the guy who appeared to be calling 911 immediately after the interaction would just vanish into thin air.


[27-Aug-20 06:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's how calling 911 is kinda supposed to work though


[27-Aug-20 06:26 AM] Opponent#3498
well, the mob started closing in I imagine. The mob he came there to defend the town against (which is another can of worms but that was the motivation). Would he really put himself in their mercy?


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
considering the police just... let him go


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
I know I wouldn't.


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
only for him to be arrested like a few hours ago or whatever finally uhhhh, 911 really aint helping here


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
but then I can't imagine a scenario where I'd be there, alone so, irrelevant.


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
always take a buddy to protests friends


[27-Aug-20 06:27 AM] Opponent#3498
and that's a police fuckup. They had evidence enough to apprehend him.


[27-Aug-20 06:30 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That too, but that's kind of the whole reason people are protesting. I don't think anyone, alone or together, is really going to stand around and wait for the *big, stwong, bwave* police to arrive and subdue a guy who shot a man in the head, especially if they know (and are proven right) that the cops are on his side


[27-Aug-20 06:30 AM] Treascair#7785
Notably, they *let him go*, and they arrested him AT HOME.  Y'know, *across fucking state lines*


[27-Aug-20 06:31 AM] Opponent#3498
no, I was wondering while the rifle guy was alone.


[27-Aug-20 06:32 AM] Opponent#3498
like, he was supposed to be a part of 'militia' to protect the town or some shit. And they were... somewhere. How come he was now alone in basicly bandit country?


[27-Aug-20 06:32 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
because the "militia" there to "protect" things is the big lie


[27-Aug-20 06:33 AM] Opponent#3498
well, add on to the pile of stupid.


[27-Aug-20 06:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Also adding on to the monumental heap of stupidity, can we appreciate that they arrested him at home because what he did after killing a guy and fleeing the scene is...to go back home?


[27-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
bottom line, I'm sticking with 'everyone was a dumbass' tbh. The dumbass with a rifle shouldn't have had the rifle or been there. The militia thing is retarded, Trumpy endless bullshit riling up gullible morons. The hobo shouldn't have charged a guy trying to ward him off with a rifle (he's seen on the first vid pointing the rifle at him and then continue to flee). Trying to apprehend him was stupid. There's fantasy and then there's self-preservation (then again, if you don't care much about the latter, go for it).


[27-Aug-20 06:34 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, wonderful. Yes, the crowning jewel of the evening I guess.


[27-Aug-20 06:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You're mostly on the money except for one thing: self-preservation is something people put aside if what they're trying to do is keep others from being killed. Yes, this does frequently result in *them* becoming a statistic, but... at that point they kinda already are, aren't they?


[27-Aug-20 06:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
In most circumstances "don't be a hero" is good advice but there comes a point at which it isn't


[27-Aug-20 06:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/dr-fauci-said-he-was-in-surgery-when-cdc-decided-to-reduce-19-testing-i-am-concerned/

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[27-Aug-20 06:59 AM] Opponent#3498
unsuprising. Yeah, I wouldn't expect him to give ground now all of a sudden.


[27-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
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[27-Aug-20 07:41 AM] Crow#5457
feds kidnapping people who're feeding protesters


[27-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
is this even legal?

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[27-Aug-20 08:30 AM] Serval#4825
George Bush made anything legal under the domestic terrorist definition


[27-Aug-20 08:31 AM] Serval#4825
So yes


[27-Aug-20 09:37 AM] Nebbie#8545
Patriot Act is awful.

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[27-Aug-20 11:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[27-Aug-20 12:09 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Who are all those people?!


[27-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Your average Trump supporter


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[27-Aug-20 12:34 PM] illumnious#7938
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[27-Aug-20 12:35 PM] illumnious#7938
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[27-Aug-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/officials-considered-use-of-microwave-weapon-migrants-report-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Phelan#7647
>can cause severe burns
It's been used many times before and no it doesn't. It feels like you just opened a stove. Very uncomfortable, but not harmful. It causes 0.4 mm of skin to get to about 44C. First degree burns occur at 51C.


[27-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Phelan#7647
In 6 out of 10,000 exposures, people got small blisters


[27-Aug-20 01:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
While it's currently considered nonlethal, the technology is not harmless: the US military's own experiments have resulted in test subjects suffering second-degree burns. It was deployed in Afghanistan in 2010 but, according to the group Physicians for Human Rights, "was recalled a few months later and has never been used against enemy combatants in military settings."


[27-Aug-20 01:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it has the potential to be used that way, though it hasnt been used that way yet


[27-Aug-20 01:18 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What effect does this have on cell phones and the like?


[27-Aug-20 01:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the difference between military and border patrol is also a major factor, military tends to have limits to the amount of force thye can apply to a situation. Border patrol however has far less restrictions on how much force thye can apply

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[27-Aug-20 01:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I really think maybe one of the problems this country has is that the police don't have such limits


[27-Aug-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the police do things that would get a soldier charged for war crimes


[27-Aug-20 01:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
wtf what kind limit of force military has they like shooting people to death


[27-Aug-20 01:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the use of tear gas is a notable and topical one, for example


[27-Aug-20 01:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The military can't just go full hog into shooting people, it can only be in a specified war zone


[27-Aug-20 01:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i think you talking about national guard


[27-Aug-20 01:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
nope, military. They get a lot of de-escalation training


[27-Aug-20 01:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
army etc


[27-Aug-20 01:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the military is also trained to not use lethal force if thye dont have to


[27-Aug-20 01:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
There's a lot of things that I think people just assume to be true about the state of the world that really aren't, like this


[27-Aug-20 01:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that our police and peacekeeping forces are trained to be more aggressive and use tactics and equipment that would land them in the hague if they were an army


[27-Aug-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our immigration control units are trained to use the full force and violence to stop whatever "criminals" they can, and that they should go for their guns first and ask questions later


[27-Aug-20 01:26 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
innocent until proven arrested


[27-Aug-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in the military that microwave weapon is a deterrent to be used sparingly and at low power. to border patrol, that shit is a weapon to be cranked up full power and used as often as possible


[27-Aug-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/immigrants-trump-naturalization-ceremony-werent-told-was-part-of-rnc-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 01:50 PM] green_byte#1188
mmm you know a thing happened when you see the similar thumbnails.

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[27-Aug-20 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/pences-rnc-convention-speech-no-covid-testing-19-2020-8

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[27-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36016/the-potentially-revolutionary-celera-500l-officially-breaks-cover

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[27-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Good news! It's a suppository.


[27-Aug-20 02:17 PM] green_byte#1188
.aq Good news! It's a suppository.


[27-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
@green_byte, invalid subject, try a user or a channel.


[27-Aug-20 02:17 PM] green_byte#1188
.aq @Itsthinking Good news! It's a suppository.


[27-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Itsthinking**:  Good news! It's a suppository.).


[27-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
well, suppository or not, the promises look very good indeed. Wonder how it'll actually turn out.


[27-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
(also I was disappointed to find out the soundproof dome marketed as learning aid was fake :sad: )


[27-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To note, that microwave weapon can leave people blind


[27-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Teaspoon#9532
A thin layer of cells being burned off might not mean much for your arms; means a lot for your eyes


[27-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Just using a poorly shielded home microwave normally can already lead to eye damage


[27-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Phelan#7647
Cornea damage: Tests on non-human primate eyes have observed no short-term or long-term damage as the blink reflex protects the eye from damage within 0.25 seconds.

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[27-Aug-20 02:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#Effects

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Many possible long-term effects have been studied, with the conclusion that no long-term effects are likely at the exposure levels studied.[15] However, overexposures of either operators or targets may cause thermal injury. According to an official military assessment, "In the event of an overexposure to a power density sufficient to produce thermal injury, there is an extremely low probability that scars derived from such injury might later become cancerous. Proper wound management further decreases this probability, as well as the probability of hypertrophic scarring or keloid formation


[27-Aug-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Cancer: A mouse cancer study was performed at two energy levels and exposures with a 94 GHz transmitter: a single 10 second, 1 W/cm2 exposure; and repeated 10 second exposures over 2 week period at 333 mW/cm2. At both energy levels, no increase in skin cancers were observed.[22] No studies of higher energy levels, or longer exposure times have been performed on millimeter-wave systems.
    Cornea damage: Tests on non-human primate eyes have observed no short-term or long-term damage as the blink reflex protects the eye from damage within 0.25 seconds.[23]
    Birth defects: Millimeter waves only penetrate 0.4 mm (​1⁄64 inch) into the skin, making direct damage to the testes or ovaries impossible.
    Blisters and scarring: Pea-sized blistering due to second degree burns occurred in a very small minority (less than 0.1%) of tested exposures, which have a remote potential for scarring.


[27-Aug-20 02:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is, they havent actually done over exposure testing, so most of it is theories right now, however microwave radiation is dangerous as fuck in large doses


[27-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Audrey#7852
Technology exists... The americans : We need to turn it into a weapon!

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[27-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Audrey#7852
Was re-watching the meeting of Jean-Luc Mélenchon in both Lyon and Paris in 2017 https://youtu.be/XlnQ801wWf4?t=1169

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[27-Aug-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the military has enough restraint that over exposure wouldnt be an issue


[27-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Audrey#7852
That's pretty crazy, but that's a great use of technology. Have you ever been on a politc meetup with a future president on a holographic version?


[27-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Audrey#7852
The right:"Boo! That's useless! Technology makes you lazy!"


[27-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Apes are a lot smarter than people in terms of damage avoidance; a lot of people are going to try and look at the thing hurting them just to know what it is and how to get away from it

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[27-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes we have a lot to learn from nature


[27-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Audrey#7852
I think also from other cultures and civilizations instead of using the way we (westerners) work and never think different


[27-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u want to live in a mud hut?


[27-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's all 0 or 100% here I guess


[27-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Audrey#7852
I wouldn't mind, if it's environment friendly and accessible and allows us to get rid of homelessness and landlords


[27-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Audrey#7852
There are people who make their own homes, Blue


[27-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Maybe not luxury so what? Ever visited Africa?


[27-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes but they using wood or stone and install all those western civilization  inventions like central heating or AC or electiricity


[27-Aug-20 02:57 PM] wren#0114

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[27-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i live in africa like country


[27-Aug-20 02:58 PM] wren#0114

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[27-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Crow#5457
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[27-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit


[27-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Great! Where are you from, Blue? I visited Morocco, Tunisia, Côte d'Ivoire and Bénin in which you can see plenty of traditional houses made of mud and they are very resisting


[27-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Russia,u should totally visit some small Russian town if u wanna see our mud huts


[27-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Audrey#7852
F*ck Boris Johnson


[27-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
They not really mud huts,more like old soviet houses or appartaments and if u lucky you can find wooden barracs


[27-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Audrey#7852
But they are still standing today and were very affordable, back then, homelessness was not an issue.


[27-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Homelessness" tends to not be an issue when it gets to -20C for 4 months a year


[27-Aug-20 03:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
True but everyone was living under a communist regtime,everyone had to work and like lots of stuff that western ppl could buy were not avaliable over here


[27-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2017/12/25/majority-of-russians-regret-soviet-collapse-poll-says-a60039 I think one day USSR will make a come-back


[27-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's hope not


[27-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It would never come back


[27-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Audrey#7852
Not in its bad aspects but IF everyone can work together and access to equal rights why not?


[27-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because it doesn't work


[27-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
There was never any equal rights


[27-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Elites lived in mansions while peasant lived in small Khruchevkas


[27-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
We are a very very long way away from such a system working and not just being an oppressive dictatorship with a fancy lacquer


[27-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Not if we work to obtain equal rights, Blue 🙂  That's up to mankind to accept and work into building them.


[27-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
IMO right after Putin dies Russia would fell apart


[27-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Well excuse me, I strongly believe in how socialism can be successful. Americans are beginning to understand why it is not as scary as it seems.


[27-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Socialism and what the USSR was are different things


[27-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Putin is not a communist but is a dictator. Russia will get better after he's gone.


[27-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, socialism does not leads to have Stalinist regimes.


[27-Aug-20 03:09 PM] Audrey#7852
Men cause these regimes. Look at Trump in the US. He's not a socialist, he's not a communist, he's a capitalist and treat American people like garbage.


[27-Aug-20 03:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Hes a buisnessman that just profiting from his position,nothing new

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[27-Aug-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is that it;s the norm when it shoudl absolutely not be the norm


[27-Aug-20 03:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Communism is basically socialism that does not makes things half. We had Miterrand, Jospin and Hollande, here in France. They opened the door to some progress. But nothing clearly established if I can say

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[27-Aug-20 03:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Socialims still keeps problematic aspects of capitalism, and religion is still keeping a huge influence.


[27-Aug-20 03:13 PM] Audrey#7852
I agree, everyone can have theirs


[27-Aug-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"allows personal property such as clothes"


[27-Aug-20 03:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You have that under communism as well...


[27-Aug-20 03:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There's a distinction between property like "my TV" and property like "this plot of land I inherited"


[27-Aug-20 03:15 PM] Audrey#7852
This is a silly chart of course I picked that at random. Excuse me for being on a hurry to explain my point of view with the material I have. 
But in the form, as long cults and mentalities are no longer an influence, society gets more liberated, like on PMA/GPA, same sex marriage and more human rights


[27-Aug-20 03:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
in western part of the world


[27-Aug-20 03:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its still illegal in russia


[27-Aug-20 03:16 PM] Audrey#7852
You can still believe in unicorns with a communist government by the way 😉


[27-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Believing in unicorns is unproductive,im gonna lose my social points :sadface:

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[27-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-suspect/index.html

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Kenosha shooting suspect is a former member of a youth police cadet...
The suspect in the Kenosha, Wisconsin, fatal shooting is a former member of a youth police cadet program with an affinity for guns, according to police and online profiles.
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[27-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Audrey#7852
You can also be free to express your gender identity without discrimination


[27-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im male and i can express my gender identity tyvm

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[27-Aug-20 03:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Also be safe not being shooted by an assh*le with a machine gun


[27-Aug-20 03:20 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes you can Unicorn because you are male, it's not everyone's right today in the world, you know.


[27-Aug-20 03:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yeah that only US,Brazil,Africa etc problems,rest of the world exist without mass shootings just fine


[27-Aug-20 03:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Please read the article they have posted, that person is an ex-c*p


[27-Aug-20 03:23 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Someone said his name was Kyle?
Is his mom Karen?


[27-Aug-20 03:24 PM] Audrey#7852
Growing in guns, violence, authority and masc ideals are the key ingredients for these.


[27-Aug-20 03:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we already discussed him yesterday and that he shoot in self defense


[27-Aug-20 03:24 PM] Audrey#7852
You don't shoot an automatic military rifle in self defense. You shoot it to kill.


[27-Aug-20 03:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Defense is not giving death! Defense is protecting yourself!


[27-Aug-20 03:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats semi auto rifle,prob AR 15


[27-Aug-20 03:25 PM] Audrey#7852
' with an affinity for guns'


[27-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Have you seen videos of shootings?

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[27-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm terrified because guns are getting more and more popular in France


[27-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If a bank robber shoots a hostage that's rushing them, is it self defence? :ponythinking:


[27-Aug-20 03:26 PM] PwnyPony#6185
"We don't need guys trained on Fortnite" - 👮‍♂️ :wheeze:


[27-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No,he's a robber,a criminal by default

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[27-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And this guy crossed state lines with a firearm he wasn't allowed to possess


[27-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thus a criminal


[27-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Being a criminal is not a reason to be executed without a trial👏


[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He inserted himself in a dangerous situation with a weapon and made it 100x more dangerous

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[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Audrey#7852
You would think someone who steals money on a bank will have to be killed?


[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
To feed his Dirty Harry fantasy


[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] PwnyPony#6185
He was also out past curfew.


[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
While committing a crime


[27-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Audrey#7852
Or arrested and give back the money? Then the bank gives you bills stained with blood and brain remains


[27-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Audrey#7852
How do you think it feels like getting to know a cop or security force shot someone running away with money to preserve your wealth


[27-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Audrey#7852
Will you die if you get robbed? (no)


[27-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It all depends on robber behaviour,if he surrender himself then its ok to arrest him if he fights back or threaten to kill others its ok to shoot


[27-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Audrey#7852
(Him?)


[27-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes

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[27-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Opponent#3498
@Audrey weren't you the person who wanted to longpost about furry nazi indoctrination or something? :wheeze:

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[27-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Audrey#7852
If they are escaping, arrest them with non lethal weapons, they probably are less armed.


[27-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
reading you, I'm beginning to understand where you're coming from. Sheltered EU twitter anti-gun pro-communism warrior.

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[27-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
you can also add 👏


[27-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Sounds good but its rarely actually happening,if cops knows that suspect is armed they would prob shoot first ask questions later


[27-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
there's never enough 👏 in posts.


[27-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
unless he cooperate and not try to do anything stupid like reach for the gun


[27-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Hmm, I'm gonna be bold, Opponent but please sit and listen; I think Nazis or Right Wing Ideologies do not belong on any inclusive community, neither its members.


[27-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, sorry, no. Miss me with the sermon.


[27-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
we've had this kinda thing en masse during the attack on Derpi.


[27-Aug-20 03:37 PM] green_byte#1188
🤔 okay then

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[27-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Audrey#7852
No one wants to risk their lives for money, some people do, they are mostly capitalists. Some people will kill for commodities or material goods. Is it worth it?

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[27-Aug-20 03:38 PM] green_byte#1188
Isn't that exactly what happened?


[27-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Audrey#7852
Breonna Taylor was sleeping and even if she committed a crime she should have been on a trial.


[27-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Audrey#7852
That's exactly what happened, c*ps killed her.

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[27-Aug-20 03:39 PM] green_byte#1188
r/facepalm having a facepalm moment


[27-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Audrey#7852
I saw your post, Opponent


[27-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Opponent#3498
good :3


[27-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Why have you deleted it?


[27-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Opponent#3498
the emote is a better medium.


[27-Aug-20 03:40 PM] green_byte#1188
And I don't find that necessary to censor


[27-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Audrey#7852
Sorry (not) I respect people's right not to be offended but I can change that.


[27-Aug-20 03:41 PM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[27-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Im not justifty a murder but sometimes shit happenes,even the best of us can make things wrong and fuck up everything

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[27-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Opponent#3498
> Sorry (not) I respect people's right not to be offended but I can change that.
change people's rights? Sounds about right :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 03:41 PM] green_byte#1188
That doesn't make sense.


[27-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
they're a communist :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Opponent#3498
a latent tankie probably.


[27-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Audrey#7852
I can change just by calling them pigs instead if you prefer, but there are probably people who have been attacked by police on this community, myself I have received a flashball impact and been harrassed during a protest in Nantes in 2015

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[27-Aug-20 03:45 PM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[27-Aug-20 03:45 PM] green_byte#1188
> protest
I see...


[27-Aug-20 03:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I've heard that one before. 'The black robbed me 20 years ago so I became a republican', the meme went afaik.


[27-Aug-20 03:46 PM] Audrey#7852
We also have police violence here everyday. Police also harrass minorities.


[27-Aug-20 03:47 PM] Audrey#7852
So I became an educator 🙂


[27-Aug-20 03:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You're from France?


[27-Aug-20 03:48 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm working on a college and will come back there in Sept. Might progress to become a professor.


[27-Aug-20 03:48 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes


[27-Aug-20 03:48 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm, communist dictatorship on campuses meme slowly becomes a reality :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 03:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I've heard that those minorities are living on welfare and does not try to integrate into society,is this true?


[27-Aug-20 03:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Society rejects them and prevent them to access to integration. I see them everyday, I talk with young people and other educators, and there's just no exit, no future so far, because of the misery and lack of interest from the state and the french to help these populations.


[27-Aug-20 03:54 PM] Opponent#3498
so, yes.


[27-Aug-20 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude wtf they got a free ticket to europe,they getting money for nothing wtf


[27-Aug-20 03:55 PM] Audrey#7852
I grew up there in Aubervilliers's suburbs and that's how life is there, it's the ghetto and if no one understand the sociocultural context, racism and ignorance, hatred from everyone it is what happens. Now I live in Drancy, we are seen as the low class but I don't care, I'm resisting and foight to make sure what I do counts


[27-Aug-20 03:55 PM] Opponent#3498
you've been asked a binary question and you're trying to distract and misdirect. Well, at least you'll be good, and dangerous, at your job.


[27-Aug-20 03:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im sure back in their countries there was so much opportuninies for them


[27-Aug-20 03:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Without welfare do you think we would even survive? (no) So yes we have allocations and social funds hardly acquired decades ago


[27-Aug-20 03:56 PM] Audrey#7852
And it's normal and earned.


[27-Aug-20 03:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
If we hypothetically say that tommorow i would immigrate to France would i get a welfare support from government?


[27-Aug-20 03:58 PM] Audrey#7852
When the society don't want to includes a certain class of population , and get someone a job to grow in society it is normal they give back in any form to human beings


[27-Aug-20 03:58 PM] Opponent#3498
who is 'we' btw? Who is it 'norman and earned' for? Everyone living in France?


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Blue are you in need?


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You wouldn't


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
the need is relative.


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
EU doesn't give aid or visas to Russians


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Exactly


[27-Aug-20 03:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Regarding your opinions I would think not, Blue.

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[27-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And still people from Russia immigrates to France and somehow make their way


[27-Aug-20 04:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
The dude didn't shoot in self defense as it's a legal term, if you shoot a dude who threw a bag with a coke bottle at you in the head then flee the scene, you're fleeing the scene, and people are rightfully trying to take out an active shooter,

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[27-Aug-20 04:00 PM] Audrey#7852
Why would we. People need their share from the society, others would be profiting, and I tell you no one there is a profiteer

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[27-Aug-20 04:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Because they work and their job swears on their mum they're essential / hard to replace


[27-Aug-20 04:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
So much for good guys with guns taking out bad guys with guns huh? When it's a white LARPing 17 year old the rules don't apply

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[27-Aug-20 04:01 PM] Opponent#3498
don't forget to 👏  @Audrey


[27-Aug-20 04:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm pro gun as hell being a good communist, just to be clear

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[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Phelan#7647
communists are cringe


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
and watch the thumbs-up disappear like magic :wheeze:


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Otherwise anyone born north of the Med is boned in the EU


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Nazis are cringe


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
Marx say under no pretext shall the proletariat be disarmed.


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, nazis are cringe, but so are communists


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] Opponent#3498
twitter warriors are cringe.


[27-Aug-20 04:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
I listen to Marx's words here, arm yourself if you're a leftist and can.

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[27-Aug-20 04:03 PM] Audrey#7852
True Dissociativity if we want to be equal it's not just a milicia that must have weapons but every member of the society


[27-Aug-20 04:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
The best solution to a white nationalist with a gun is someone trained in a socialist rifle association with a gun


[27-Aug-20 04:03 PM] Phelan#7647
>white nationalist


[27-Aug-20 04:03 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, trained and smart, not trained just to compensate a small d*ck


[27-Aug-20 04:03 PM] Phelan#7647
Where's the evidence of that?


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
>Audrey today, 16:26
> I'm terrified because guns are getting more and more popular in France


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
Be sure to actually practice shit and good trigger discipline is important

Blue lives matter is white nationalist largely yes.


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Phelan#7647
He was hispanic


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Opponent#3498
make up your mind hon.


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
Too bad blue lives just murder instead.

Anyway I wasn't referring to that one dude, I meant overall


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm terrified because it's white fash in the countryside who have guns


[27-Aug-20 04:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
As stand-in for any authoritarian fascist bootlicking scum.


[27-Aug-20 04:05 PM] Audrey#7852
There's 100 times more rifles outside suburbs than in the cities


[27-Aug-20 04:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u prefer authoritarian communist bootlicking scum?


[27-Aug-20 04:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@Phelan 
> He was hispanic
he shot someone at a blm rally who'd murder him if given a chance, that automatically makes him honorary white :wheeze:


[27-Aug-20 04:05 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm for equality at this point if I hate weapons it can be necessary in case of a group decided to attack


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
No, I prefer decentralised hierarchies.


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Phelan#7647
All commies are cringe. Including an-coms


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not an ancomm, they're largely cringe.


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think him being paler than snow is what makes him white


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelan are you one of those 'Aryanne' fans?


[27-Aug-20 04:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
You're just a big brain horseshoe theorist


[27-Aug-20 04:07 PM] Phelan#7647
Nah, I don't care about aryanne, she's a cringe horse


[27-Aug-20 04:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
Muh commies and nazis are both just as bad I'm very smart communists aren't hundreds of different distinct sects of leftism


[27-Aug-20 04:07 PM] Opponent#3498
@Audrey I am. Became one when self-righteous twatter twats came into Derpi looking for validation. Why?


[27-Aug-20 04:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
Actually why am I here and not sleeping lol, one too many ciders

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[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Aryanne is just a meme horse but noone should ban her


[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Audrey#7852
Nothing wrong with being a human being, wanting human rights and equality, valuing life over possessions.


[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
Tasty tho. Good and crisp.


[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like granny Smith apples tasting, real nice.


[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Exactly Audrey but some people just cant behave themself


[27-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I'm from Twitter, and there's a pony and furry group who attacked me with false reports about posting spam


[27-Aug-20 04:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
If you're ignored when you behave, a riot starts to look like a good voice for the unheard.

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[27-Aug-20 04:09 PM] Audrey#7852
I will come up with a new one when I change my phone.


[27-Aug-20 04:09 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I value life over possessions if someone else values their life over the price of my possessions.


[27-Aug-20 04:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
People have been peaceful largely for decades.


[27-Aug-20 04:09 PM] Audrey#7852
A time will come when we have to start being angry and force change


[27-Aug-20 04:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
Noone cared and nothing changed.
You want riots to stop? Make change, advocate for change.


[27-Aug-20 04:10 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
In times of peace, prepare for war, as the saying goes.


[27-Aug-20 04:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
Every dumbass that thinks being more violent to protestors will stop the movement is stupid as shit


[27-Aug-20 04:10 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea well don't be surprised if you get shot for assaulting someone or their business.


[27-Aug-20 04:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
You make another martyr and you're back to square one m8.


[27-Aug-20 04:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
You can't win like that or even get a compromise like that.


[27-Aug-20 04:11 PM] Phelan#7647
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6


[27-Aug-20 04:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So u gotta just let them assault you or rob your place @dissociativity


[27-Aug-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie they'll give you an hour's warning before burning down your house so it's fine. Value life over posessions :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 04:11 PM] Audrey#7852
People are being stomped by elites and struggling with always less and less, victims of racism and inequalities. And as things are going worse everywhere. We had the Brexit... Almost had a nazi in power, and I hope Tr*mp will get his ass kicked


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Phelan#7647
>censoring the word Trump


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
@Phelan they censored the word 'cops'.


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Even his name disgusts me to type


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't care about businesses.
Never did

It's probably a habit for people ctrl-f ING


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey im victim of racism and inequality pls help me


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
> Audrey Сегодня, в 16:38
> That's exactly what happened, c*ps killed her.


[27-Aug-20 04:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
Stops people from searching logs as easily.


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Phelan#7647
@Opponent, talking about what Audrey said.


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's just good opsec, it's not a bad habit to have even if it comes across as weird here.


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Audrey#7852
(Opponent and Blue are both Russian?)


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I was just pointing out, it's much worse than looks at a glance.


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No thats racist to assume everyone is russian

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[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
Anyway, I need to sleep, good luck

I have no idea lol


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Opponent is from Ukraine afaik

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[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
YES SOMEONE SAID IT.


[27-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Don't misuse the word racist, Blue.


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
But they don't generally have much constructive to say anyway.


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Phelan#7647
I'm a Ukrainian refugee, that's why I hate commies so much.


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Audrey#7852
Good night Dissociativity!


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Opponent#3498
mmhm.


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Phelan#7647
Well, descended from Ukrainian refugees


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Audrey#7852
Keep up the good fight!


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
Opponent is okay, smug and phelan are cringe don't bother engaging

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[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Phelan#7647
I am a first generation American immigrant tho


[27-Aug-20 04:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
With that goodnight


[27-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Phelan#7647
ACAC
ALL COMMIES ARE CRINGE


[27-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
You and your commie are cringe


[27-Aug-20 04:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
I rest my case


[27-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Audrey#7852
If one day there's a political party that works hard at making your life better, gives you healthcare, education, wealth, home, entertainment like everyone, will you get pissed, Blue Unicorn?


[27-Aug-20 04:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Noone could made a working communism system for more than 100 years


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
the economy wasn't there yet. Is it there now? Well, better odds than a century ago, that's for sure.


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
don't count it as a straight endorsement though.


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Phelan#7647
A mixed, capitalism dominated system gave my grandparents healthcare, education, wealth, a home, and entertainment


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey if that party would exist in my country and do something to make things better no i would not be pissed


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Phelan#7647
In their home country, they got genocided.


[27-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Audrey#7852
Blue... Can you make work a Linux B403 system?


[27-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i have no idea whats that


[27-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Or like some super complicated computer that needs decades of training to get to work?


[27-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Audrey#7852
No but there are professionals who know how to make it work


[27-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Because you are in front of a computer you don't know programming, thing will go bluescreens and bugs.


[27-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Opponent#3498
google doesn't either :P


[27-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I have no idea what you're talking about bro


[27-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Audrey#7852
But someone who knows how the machine works, they will be successful.


[27-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I know computers a bit,i work for IT but its mostly windows stuff


[27-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Audrey#7852
I kind of invented it at random as an example, it is not because you do not understand something that it does not work


[27-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
I think this is the leftist version of Peterson's 'don't expect you can change society, start with yourself and leave that to professionals'.


[27-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't know anything about computers either but I am friend with people who know everything about Windows, Word, can get your phone to work and more


[27-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
only it's encourages to accept no-oversight government instead of stop protesting.


[27-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I understand this graph you send earlier https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/501780687230074890/748530280343666778/Difference-Between-Socialism-and-Communism.png

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[27-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
There is such things as freedom and equality


[27-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Audrey#7852
It was a bad example I copied from Google


[27-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Name me a country that rule by communist and have equaly


[27-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Maybe even a just middle so freedom does not attack equality???


[27-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Phelan#7647
What if I refuse my business being publicly owned?


[27-Aug-20 04:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Why are you trolling Blue?


[27-Aug-20 04:23 PM] Phelan#7647
It's a valid question


[27-Aug-20 04:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelian what kind of business? Do you hire a lot of people?


[27-Aug-20 04:23 PM] Phelan#7647
I'm talking hypothetically.


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Here's another question: which country tried to do 'real' communism?


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
there's never been a communist country ever

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[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Audrey#7852
Would/Do you pay everyone equally disregard their ethnicity or gender inc. yourself?


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Phelan#7647
Real capitalism has never been tried.


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Do u always accuse your opponents in trolling when you cant answer a question?


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
you can't prove something that doesn't exist


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The CPK existed


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Audrey#7852
A loaded question


[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Proving-Non-Existence

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[27-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Phelan#7647
Chaz tried, ended up with a black child being shot execution style.

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[27-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
knock it off with the bad faith trolling


[27-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Phelan#7647
... I'm not


[27-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Now you're being insulting


[27-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Crow#5457
chaz was not even a proper commune, let alone a rebellious government


[27-Aug-20 04:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Cherry picking  on Chaz considering the context especially


[27-Aug-20 04:26 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Its hard to take someone seriously when they avoid questions and result to ad hominem


[27-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Audrey#7852
just yuck... (Don't...Phelan.)


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Audrey#7852
CHAZ was an essay of a district of youth who wanted to grow without police attacking them


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Crow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state#List_of_communist_states

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A communist state, also known as Marxist–Leninist state, is a state that is administered and governed by a single communist party guided by Marxism–Leninism. Marxism–Leninism was the state ideology of the Soviet Union, the Comintern after Bolshevization and the communist state...


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
Chaz existed for how long? Had what exactly for economy? It's really not a great example.


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Audrey#7852
It existed and will exist again


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Crow#5457
> They are adherents of Marxism–Leninism.


[27-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
for any side.


[27-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism

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[27-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
> As a political philosophy, it seeks to establish a socialist state to develop further into socialism and eventually communism


[27-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Crow#5457
no state has ever reached the communism phase


[27-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
There is also a former states


[27-Aug-20 04:29 PM] Audrey#7852
It's because communism has to be global. Foreign influence is the problem


[27-Aug-20 04:29 PM] Audrey#7852
It was impossible in the 20th century because of wars and relations, in fact


[27-Aug-20 04:29 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The problem is not everyone can fall into a hivemindset globally


[27-Aug-20 04:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Modern democracy sprouted out of a world dominated by a monarchy


[27-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Phelan#7647
Why couldn't communism do the same in a world dominated by capitalism?


[27-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't believe it is possible to keep socialim when capitalist countries pushes their influence.


[27-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
there's really two options for rejecting the hivemind. Slowly evolve the society into something that _will_ accept it, or gulags for the problematic ones.


[27-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Crow#5457
because communism can't compete with capitalism economics-wise


[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
Marx envisioned the first way.


[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the second is the _actual practical_ one.


[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Audrey#7852
There's the NATO, and WHO., WTO, UNICEF. So there should be a similar organization to coordinate socialist countries in the world. That's how it will work.


[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
still, not that great really.


[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Acceptance only works over generations. People don't have patience

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[27-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Phelan#7647
There was the eastern bloc...


[27-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
there has to be a transitional period between capitalism and communism to achieve communism, it can't just spontaneously erupt out of capitalism


[27-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Audrey#7852
And it will be a necessity for crisis response like the COVID, Global warming, infrastructure and management of resources


[27-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Audrey#7852
Essentially we want to save the world.


[27-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Crow#5457
one of the points of socialism is to create a framework that modifies the priorities of a state to cut back on capitalistic expansion in favor of investing in technologies to implement communism


[27-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Many corporations could be helpful, I'm thinking of education and information, like everyone being dissident from Trump's government in the US


[27-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Crow#5457
no socialist country has made it that far into socialism


[27-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Phelan#7647
Might be an issue with socialism then.


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Audrey#7852
True, communism is when you have completed all steps of socialism.


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Crow#5457
the USSR went back to free market capitalism, china went for state capitalism


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Crow#5457
it's not an issue with socialism, it's an issue with humans


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Phelan#7647
You're not gonna change human nature.


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Humans are unpredictable and can't be controlled


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Audrey#7852
It's up to the people to change, to the generations to understand we can not go on like this forever


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Crow#5457
humans want to be rich, they want to have the big number if they can get it, even if the number itself is meaningless


[27-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not until Star Trek replicators, anyway


[27-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The problem was with USA propaganda


[27-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Humans are intelligent and can learn


[27-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Audrey#7852
And this is why I deeply believe in what we can achieve through education and knowledge


[27-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Crow#5457
the main issue is that there's never been a long-lasting democratic socialist country


[27-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Humans intelligent, but some humans are more intelligent than others


[27-Aug-20 04:36 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Humans always strive to be on top, in every sense


[27-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
a few of them popped up in the 20th century, but it was during the cold war, so the US destabilized them and funded far-right extremist terror groups to overthrow them and replace them with dictatorships


[27-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't say never, we don't know how the Sentinel people are organized =p


[27-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Audrey#7852
First to learn to live together. Learning is not about learning to be a manager or a Microsoft engineer on computers or be some kind of businessman, it is about learning to become yourself and understand others around you


[27-Aug-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
the US was doing that to any government left of center btw, so it's hard to tell what was actually socialist and what was just liberal


[27-Aug-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
@Phelan, you can't change human nature, but you can implement systems that curtail and redirect it into more productive pursuits than corruption


[27-Aug-20 04:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
USSR tried to hivemind people into "money are required, but not as much" by not letting indulge people into consumerism


[27-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Phelan#7647
Implement systems, what do you mean?


[27-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
which is intrinsically impossible under any authoritarian state


[27-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Audrey#7852
Like computer stuff Phelan or something.


[27-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
anti-corruption laws


[27-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Crow#5457
a system doesn't have to be just computers lol


[27-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Crow I would think the 90s were very capitalist, the 2000s were seeing a fear of terrorism and 2010s where a generation of liberals raised their voice


[27-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Audrey#7852
The 2020s will be the big turn, with a generation of active millenials and old boomers no longer in service


[27-Aug-20 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
simplifying bureaucracy minimizes the chances for corruption to take hold as well


[27-Aug-20 04:40 PM] Crow#5457
and by god was the USSR a bureaucratic nightmare

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[27-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Opponent#3498
yep. It was, and the vestiges of it still are, legendary. Literally so.


[27-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Audrey#7852
Things needs management, now anyone with Excel can do all the job, with internet and all things automatic, anyone with a smartphone, it can be different


[27-Aug-20 04:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Someone explained, why some countries are fucked at all levels. 
It is all about people at top caring about what they do. If person at top level cares, he picks the competent people and not their relatives and friends.


[27-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Audrey#7852
Also sorry I thought phelan was talking about me


[27-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Opponent#3498
the AI could be solution for large-scale management. Corruption-free, self-correcting if administered right. People can't do it, it's a major failing of command economies regardless of the tools they have. USSR's paper nightmare didn't just happen from day 0, it was a genuine if badly implemented effort to make this work.


[27-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
communism as a concept struggles badly with scaling-up in general.


[27-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Opponent#3498
but, again. If AI can manage stock trading, it can manage global resources.


[27-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Opponent#3498
as long as you have safeguards to prevent random bugs (which _will happen_, no question) from resulting in a meltdown.


[27-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And replace humans with robots.


[27-Aug-20 04:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok Lemondrop


[27-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I've seen a ponyfic of kind of this idea taken to the endgame, with robots not replacing people, but acting as partners, besides everything else.


[27-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Opponent#3498
not a bad place to live, all things considered. Depressing if you get a bigger picture, but good in the moment.


[27-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I remember a trope from fiction, where AI decides that humans should not exist because humans create problems.


[27-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Opponent#3498
it's actually one of the reasons China's social credit shit scares the boots off me.


[27-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
credit score is just social credit lite


[27-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
cause this is them working this idea from a different direction. Social credit system seems designed to be managed dynamically by AI.


[27-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
and people don't seem to bat an eyelash at it


[27-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Opponent#3498
so you get karma computer irl managing all aspects of your life with reward-punishment. Now that's brutal.


[27-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Opponent#3498
they're not there _yet_, but it's  the obvious next step.


[27-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Phelan#7647
You don't lose your credit score for talking about the government negatively.


[27-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
https://futurism.com/america-social-credit-system-china

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Report: America has a social credit system much like China's
You might not have a "score," but your privileges can still be taken away.
https://wp-assets.futurism.com/2019/08/america-social-credit-system-china-1200x630.jpg


[27-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Because humans are individuals and not hivemind


[27-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
> Life insurance companies can now base a person’s premiums on the content of their social media feeds, for example. Meanwhile, a company called PatronScan maintains a list of “objectionable customers” that bars and restaurants can use to exclude certain visitors.


[27-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, it's the same approach but decentralised.


[27-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's why I avoid insurance companies apps like a plague


[27-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
and less all-encompassing.


[27-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It does *everything* on your phone.


[27-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Phelan#7647
It depends if it's opt in or not. I'd be fine with that if it was opt in but not if it was required or even opt out.


[27-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Opponent#3498
in China, shit like this is required. For US, probably opt-out.


[27-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Functionality: track your driving habitats.
Permissions required: read your browser history, all your files....


[27-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Phelan#7647
Same thing with those car apps that make sure you don't speed, those are always opt in.


[27-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/db6mk4/that_chinese_social_credit_system_sure_is_scary/

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[27-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you opt-out of such things, you've effectively black listed yourself from the services that use it


[27-Aug-20 04:54 PM] Phelan#7647
Those car insurance apps aren't opt out, they're opt in. I don't download them cause I sometimes speed.


[27-Aug-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you avoid debt, you basically blacklist yourself from everything that requires a credit score


[27-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Opponent#3498
cars in particular also have video registers for a reason. Review shit that matters, when it matters.


[27-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Crow#5457
it's ironic that you basically need to take on artificial debt to have a credit score to begin with


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
But what if we usd that kind of system to instead expose people's ideas or people who can be threats
Like, preventing racists or homophobes to access or harrass certain places


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
the debt thing, yeah it's a problem. You get from 'how much can we expect the person to be able to pay' (not a bad idea really, for basicly pure debt economy), to... that, have to take debt to be relevant.


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
and you literally can't participate in any major sales (homes, cars, etc) without credit score


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
as in, you are isolated from participating in society in major ways if you don't have a credit score


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
@Audrey and who gets to decide who counts as an undesirable today?


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't think some people want equality and should be pointed out


[27-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Phelan#7647
Usually credit cards don't have interest during the first month after a purchase.


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
unless you can just pay off the house in full from the start like a rich millionaire


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Just like you can get banned from any service if you are racist, bigoted or harrass people


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
and people think that's somehow better than china's social credit system


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
USSR got through that. Literally generatiors of secret police and politicians purging the previous generations.


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
this is absolutely _not_ something I'd ever support.


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
That's everyone's rights and if we want people to change, that's the only way


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
(to be fair, it IS better, but it has the same dystopic issues)


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
China's social credit score is p.fucking awful


[27-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Opponent#3498
why not just execute them? @Audrey Gulags are a time-proven solution.


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Phelan#7647
If you use a credit card as a debit card, you're just gonna get 3% back or whatever. Don't need to worry about interest.


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Then again most anything related to the chinese government is top tier awful


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Isn't living in the threat of being shot or attacked or frequenting KKK members like, at work or having them to care for your kids not dystopian?


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
saves you time and effort, too. Maybe take out a competitor for that job you wanted in the meantime.


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes Teaspoon it is like tech is misused


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
I believe in science and technology to help manking becoming better


[27-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not misused. It's designed from the ground up to promote the Party's ideas.


[27-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. You don't get to do that though by excluding people for 'otherness' of the flavour you chose today.


[27-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Audrey#7852
If the ideas are good they are worth being promoted.


[27-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
because that's ultimately what all the *isms are about.


[27-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
exclude others for a better society.


[27-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
20th century as a whole is defined by that more than anything.


[27-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't really understand china's party's ideas they pretend to be communists, but they need to give their people more rights or they will collapse


[27-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Pirill#4680
> But what if we usd that kind of system to instead expose people's ideas or people who can be threats
> Like, preventing racists or homophobes to access or harrass certain places
This will never be abused or exploited. :)


[27-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't pretend. US calls them communists because it's convenient. But only if it's convenient.


[27-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Audrey#7852
If the regime gets more dynamic it can aspire the world change. Like America did in the past not for the best but in the idea of that time.


[27-Aug-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they called themselves communist to attract mroe people to the party


[27-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Surveillance state crap is a hard nope


[27-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Circa 100 years ago when capitalism and nationalism were seen as good (sic) and emerging nazis too.


[27-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
nationalism was and _is_ seen as good since right before WW1


[27-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Not everyone should be monitored just people who are genuinely dangerous


[27-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Pirill#4680
Also I thought this is general and was about to ask people to go to politics. Ew, I'm out of here.

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[27-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Resources for that should be invested into social programs that prevent most "criminal behavior" to start with

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[27-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
it didn't change much across the world.


[27-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Audrey#7852
I have milited for the right to have these Teaspoon and that works better than repression or punishment


[27-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Audrey#7852
Like when a student is causing trouble, sanctioning is not the solution, excluding or imprisoning people makes them more heinous


[27-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Opponent#3498
@Audrey as soon as you get to define the 'dangerous' people and use the government to exclude them, you're basicly the same as nazis in spirit, if not methods, **not yet** anyway. You'll get there, shame marks, through prisons, sterylisations, then into modern version of reprocessing undersirables into useful bits and pieces like soap.


[27-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Audrey#7852
Instead I am for keeping people more integrated


[27-Aug-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the idea of the current systems is to make people mroe desperate so thye comply with the orders given to them by people who are higher in society


[27-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Opponent#3498
it's amazing that I was right at a glance. You're a tankie in everything but name.


[27-Aug-20 05:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that you want to work to improve your life, it;s that you HAVE to work to survive even slightly


[27-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Audrey#7852
We should instead not exclude them (By dangerous I mean people who can be violent or racist or having shown such threats online or on their workplace or in public)


[27-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
oh boy someone posted an edgy holocaust joke on Twatter, better cancel them.


[27-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Bring these people in the context and confront them to reality. It's all about education


[27-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
you're like the literal embodyment of cancel culture, dreaming of having absolute government power to translate into meatspace.


[27-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Uh yes, Opponent. Holocaust jokes are pretty horrible


[27-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Phelan#7647
>it's all about education
That sounds dangerously like you want to have re-education camps


[27-Aug-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s not that you can;t afford that house, it;s that you never put yourself in artifical debt to keep up an arbitrary credit number for banks to judge you on


[27-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't want re-education camps. Just gas chambers.


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
sorry, eco-friendly bio reactors.

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[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Phelan#7647
If that's not what you want, you should really reconsider the phrasing


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Adults can't be educated? (!) You learn things all across your life, not just in school


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Everyone takes things to extreme conclusions in this channel


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kinda boring


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
TSP it's because that's where it usually ends up if given environment to grow.


[27-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Audrey#7852
I have even taught my parents more about life than they learned in school or from their parents Oppoennt


[27-Aug-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe i should rephrase that first one, "it;s not that people have a choice to work to improve their lives, it;s that thye have to work to survive even a little"


[27-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Work safety training videos are literally the path towards Mechanical Orange brainwashing and reprogramming


[27-Aug-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they have to unquestionably follow directions from their employers because if thye lose that low paying job, thye may never find another one


[27-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"Workplace harassment seminar"? More like "State sponsored neutering"!


[27-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Audrey#7852
I mean it's like telling someone to Go Read A Book, or Do your Research it's asking them to be educated and change their biased minds not brainwashing


[27-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Not all education means brainwashing, education should be permanent because society always changes and evolves. You can be 30 and go on a training period for a new job or learn a new computer thing


[27-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Or if someone is racist or antisemitic and never heard of concentration camps, show them


[27-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. In 2020 I learned that apparently 'master-slave' terminology used across... basicly an entire fucking modern technology to describe connection specs, is, apparently, **offensive**.


[27-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Teach them History, teach them what happened in Europe in the 1940s. Show them films, recommend books, testimonies, documentaries, facts


[27-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Don't just tell "don't say that" tell "This is what it means, are you sure? "


[27-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
in 2020 I learned that, apparently, it's okay to rewrite classic literature because it has fucking 74 intances of the word 'negro' or some shit.


[27-Aug-20 05:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, that was a stupid website trying to get hype off a cultural phenomenon while missing the fucking point entirely


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Audrey#7852
I had this conversation several times with teenagers who are antisemite here, against Israel and jews and I understand in a way but antisemitism was also the holocaust


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
education is ongoing.


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
btw instead of learning of what happened in 1940's, you should learn what happened in 10's, 20's and 30's.


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Audrey#7852
"Never Again."
Education is meant to be perpetual that's my point.


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
it's much more important to as WHY, and not WHAT. Someone you in particular seem to be deliberately avoiding.


[27-Aug-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most parent associations have been trying to rewrite those books for decades because it "makes them uncomfortable"


[27-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Germany's poor economy justifies the extermination of 20 million people and 6 million jews, Opponent?(No.)


[27-Aug-20 05:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they used to just burn the books, now they have to go through channels to get them banned from schools


[27-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
close, but no.


[27-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Audrey#7852
Materialism and capitalism is what justifies murder. The cause of these were rise of nationalism.


[27-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Opponent#3498
Germans believed the jews were the 'others'. The bringers of ruin, not having a nation and incapable of building one, only destroying others (that one's by Hitler), that they were the reason Germany lost WW1 ('Stab in the back' myth, a direct result of war-time 2nd Reich censorship). They wanted to exclude, and eventually eliminate others to make for a better, stronger society and future.


[27-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
Greece/Turkey war of early 1920ies. Same shit. They were excluding and eliminating others before that became mainstream. Just because some guys up top decided to make a thought experiment into reality, why not. Define what a Greek is and what a Turk is and separate them. Ez-pz.


[27-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Opponent#3498
and so on. The jews are the punching bags of history, but so are gypsies, ukraininans (it's not amazing, living on the border of two great empires, let's put it that way), and many others.


[27-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
this shit is what needs to be told, it's _useful_. These are misguided ideas resulting in horror when given resources to implement them.


[27-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Opponent#3498
not 'nazi bad, US good, US won the war and also those others helped a little I guess'


[27-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Doesn't excuses a genocide.


[27-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't. That's the point.


[27-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
trying to exclude _others_, whatever those _others_ are defined by today, results in *cides and *sisms. Nothing good ever comes of it.


[27-Aug-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.newsweek.com/kenosha-sheriffs-comments-warehousing-people-resurface-they-need-disappear-1527769


[27-Aug-20 05:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[27-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, behold.


[27-Aug-20 05:30 PM] Opponent#3498
there's another :bigbrain: asking for just that.


[27-Aug-20 05:30 PM] Opponent#3498
you have the strikes system which was already designed with this in mind you brainlet. And even _that one_'s _not fantastic_ with how harsh it is.


[27-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
> not 'nazi bad, US good, US won the war and also those others helped a little I guess'
@Opponent youre kidding,right?


[27-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Opponent#3498
that's how the West seems to remember it, by and large.


[27-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats how retards seems to remember it


[27-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
obviously history books are more even-handed.


[27-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Opponent#3498
but reading _books_ is for :nerdmoon:


[27-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Audrey#7852
US won the war with the help of Soviets FYI


[27-Aug-20 05:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the nazis were bad, but the US wasn't the "good guy" either. they only got involved because japan bombed pearl harbor, until then they were happy to sit back and let the nazis do as they please


[27-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
well, case in point.


[27-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey Soviets won the war with the help of US and rest of Europe*


[27-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Nazis just have lost, period. Also I salute the effort the webmaster of Derpibooru does to remove nazi content as it pisses off nazis


[27-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
economically US _did_ win WW2, the only country that did. The rest of the world was shelled to ruin and in deep debt to them, and so they rose to greatness.


[27-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Opponent#3498
strategically, yeah, no. Not even close.


[27-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Being antifascist is a state of mind


[27-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
being a Twatter is a state of mind*


[27-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
you can grow out of it though, there's hope.


[27-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Excuse me?


[27-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/ajykx

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Twitter / Account Suspended
From breaking news and entertainment to sports and politics, get the full story with all the live commentary.
Twitter


[27-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Audrey#7852
There goes my 'Twatter'! Now I'm sure you are now more active than I am.


[27-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
unlikely, as I never had an account there.


[27-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Twitter is just a big dump of political opinions


[27-Aug-20 05:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and porn


[27-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Audrey#7852
No social media or anything?


[27-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
No


[27-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Opponent#3498
nope. I think I have an empty IG but that was years ago for a specific purpose.


[27-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Audrey#7852
If you want to exclude yourself that's your choice, but how old are you, just so I understand


[27-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Opponent#3498
you're not allowed to ask that btw. Just on the off-chance I'm a minor :twismug:  I know that's what prevented me from asking you that question.


[27-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Opponent#3498
also, excluding myself from the militant mobs terrorising the internet communities. Yeah, that's... truly an immature choice, warranting an age check.


[27-Aug-20 05:42 PM] Opponent#3498
btw I loved the subtle misdirection. It took me a minute to catch on.


[27-Aug-20 05:43 PM] Opponent#3498
> US won the war with the help of Soviets FYI
ignoramus attacks (future professor ftw)
> Soviets won the war with the help of US and rest of Europe*
gets fact-checked
> Nazis just have lost, period. Also I salute the effort the webmaster of Derpibooru does to remove nazi content as it pisses off nazis
not much to counter that, so, topic change asap.


[27-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Opponent#3498
not bad.:squintyjack:


[27-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Audrey#7852
I wanted to ask as it's generally boomers or 40ish yo people who say Twitter bad, Facebook bad, Google bad all that


[27-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Opponent#3498
boomers eat that shit up. Trump's on there. He's the Light and the Lord.


[27-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Audrey#7852
No

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[27-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Audrey#7852
Everyone on Twitter hates Trump look at the replies


[27-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll let others disabuse you of _this_ particular notion :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Audrey#7852
The awkward people, the fash, the morons and more bigoted worship him there, Trumpo is fine here so it helps identifying the people to block or avoid


[27-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Audrey#7852
Majority hates trump


[27-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
> Everyone on Twitter hates Trump look at the replies
@Audrey cause you only reads people who hates trump


[27-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, they just said they block and avoid everyone else, so... :shrugpony:


[27-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats why twitter bad


[27-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Audrey#7852
I read also the kind of people who love him and umm... They're creepy.


[27-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you remove everything that does not match your POV


[27-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Audrey#7852
Social Networks can only bring a good cohesion and expose important problems and issues

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[27-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Audrey#7852
That's the very point and are essential. It's like having internet or a phone.


[27-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. The important problem it brought was brigading by self-righteous assholes.


[27-Aug-20 05:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/zamii070-harassment-controversy

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Zamii070 Harassment Controversy
Zamii070’s Harassment Controversy refers to the online backlash against artist Zammi070 on Tumblr, who accused her depictions of characters from animated shows, most notably Steven Universe, of promoting race-lifting, transphobia and body shaming. In October 2015, Zamii reveal...
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/164/tumblr_inline_nopusuvQEN1qbpcvz_500.jpg


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Audrey#7852
I have a Facebook too I keep private, I'm also on Tik Tok and Snapchat


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, artist cancelling goes back a decade by this point.


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm 34yo


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just read this article


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
> on Tik Tok and Snapchat
> 34 y.o


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Audrey#7852
Knowyourmeme isn't a source


[27-Aug-20 05:49 PM] Opponent#3498
> does not compute


[27-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Happened in tumblr,some artist draw skinny Rose Quartz and angry mob almost made her kill herself


[27-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Opponent#3498
if true, I guess growing out of naive and dumb isn't an option. In this case, I'm genuinly sorry for you.


[27-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Okay that's gross


[27-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:  we saw that


[27-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Audrey#7852
And who led her to kill herself here's a guess.. .Hmm. Bigoted assholes.


[27-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
guess easy life in Europe make people naive and dumb :shrugpony:


[27-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
of the brigading Twatter asshole variety.


[27-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie unfortunate, really. The dream is that when people solve survival, they start thinking about progress.


[27-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Opponent#3498
instead, they grow a 4th chin and police internet boards for wrongthink.


[27-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm reading, just that the name KnowYourMeme is not trusty


[27-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
it's really the most depressing of this.


[27-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Audrey#7852
This story is horrible


[27-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3da838/an-attempted-suicide-forced-a-tumblr-community-to-open-its-eyes-about-bullying

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An Attempted Suicide Forced a Tumblr Community to Open Its Eyes Abo...
A cartoon that was about inclusion and representation brought fans of all walks of life together. How did this togetherness almost bring one girl close to suicide?
https://video-images.vice.com/articles/5886b7324e4993458da7452a/lede/1485473978407-1446840646019419.png?image-resize-opts=Y3JvcD0xeHc6MC44NDM3NXhoO2NlbnRlcixjZW50ZXImcmVzaXplPTEyMDA6KiZyZXNpemU9MTIwMDoq


[27-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Opponent#3498
because this is probably the future that awaits the rest of the world.


[27-Aug-20 05:54 PM] Audrey#7852
Know Your Meme is considering this person a meme


[27-Aug-20 05:54 PM] Opponent#3498
it's fitting. That's what a meme is by definition, if not modern usage.


[27-Aug-20 05:54 PM] Audrey#7852
They are posting hate memes with her that's horrible it's some kind of 4chan inspired thing?


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Memes are the DNA of the soul


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
you think 4chan cares about body positivity aka obesity propaganda? :D


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Audrey#7852
Wow opponent really?


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
at least cares about it _positively_? I don't think so. Well, I'd be _really_ suprised.


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Audrey#7852
🆘


[27-Aug-20 05:55 PM] Opponent#3498
yarly. Appeal to TSP to get me cancelled, today if at all possible.


[27-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
you and yours failed to destroy the board but at least you can get this small victory right?


[27-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Please understand not everyone choose to be obese, and they are not your issue.


[27-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Opponent#3498
100% agreed. I don't care. But I don't care _both ways_.


[27-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Destroy what board Opponent? 🙂


[27-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it's indifference and irrelevance, not a tacit approval.


[27-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
all that hate towards 4chan but how is that platform different than twitter or facebook or reddit?


[27-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie brigades can't easily police them and form echo chambers.


[27-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Audrey#7852
I've done my research mind you


[27-Aug-20 05:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Well, 4chan epitomizes the culture of petit-bourgeois frustration, but this time from right-wing people rather than left-wing


[27-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Audrey#7852
4chan, 8kun, MLPOL


[27-Aug-20 05:58 PM] Opponent#3498
> what board
you are on a server built around and dedicated to support Derpi. Not specifying 'the board' would default to that, no?


[27-Aug-20 05:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Social media was a mistake tbf


[27-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, but yes, I'm sorry, you were just trying to remove all the content 'wrong' and 'harmful' for your glorious future.


[27-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Opponent#3498
that by itself makes you my enemy. Well, not just mine, everyone who would ever care.


[27-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Audrey#7852
Also guess who they are talking about right now ⛔ https:// boards. 4channel.org/mlp/thread/35778536


[27-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you think these are ok? (no)


[27-Aug-20 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Who are these irrelevant recluses whining about now?


[27-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Audrey#7852
Social media has measures to prevent bullying 4chan don't have


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Most social media doesn't lol


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Phelan#7647
That "end of derpibooru" general has been an ongoing thing for a long time.


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Just like you can post hitler or be racist or antisemite on 4chan but not on Twitter or Facebook


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Moderation in Facebook, Twitter, among others is incredibly lackluster


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
> Do you think these are ok? (no)
wtf is this btw?


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, nonono. Fascists are really abundant on twitter and facebook lol


[27-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Opponent#3498
are you asking? Offering a single 'right' choice (or be cancelled)? Are you saying, hiding behind a question?


[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Audrey#7852
But they are identifiable, not on 4chan where you don't know who you are talking with.


[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Phelan#7647
Anonymity is a good thing actually.

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[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Often, people report images that are straight-up just nazi propaganda and nothing happens as the algorithm hadn't detected anything unusual


[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Opponent#3498
you're talking with the people. The ones you vowed to build a global communism with, remember?

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[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Opponent#3498
the faceless crowd that's unafraid of militants.


[27-Aug-20 06:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It doesn't matter if the person you're arguing with has a name or not. They're all strangers at the end of the day


[27-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Audrey#7852
I have to use a pseudonym because of death threats I received but remain in touch with people RL and OL


[27-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Opponent#3498
I can certainly understand those issuing the threats. I wouldn't, because I knew it would only boost your ego, but I understand those more impulsive.


[27-Aug-20 06:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And yes, anonimity is better for us if that means we can organize and communicate better without the suspicion of the state and its henchmen


[27-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Audrey#7852
What about people using it to harrass people or force trans or gay people to commit suicide?


[27-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Audrey#7852
'Free Speech'? And don't assume the consequences?


[27-Aug-20 06:05 PM] Opponent#3498
what about Twatter brigades forcing people drawing the wrongthink commit suicide?


[27-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
they don't even need anonymity, they attack only the powerless.


[27-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
or the passive. Those who can't or won't strike back.


[27-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Audrey#7852
You don't have evidence.


[27-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Phelan#7647
I'm a gay immigrant who's great grandparents were involved in a genocide (and became refugees) and I am extremely pro-free speech


[27-Aug-20 06:06 PM] Opponent#3498
we aren't in court, I'm not obligated to provide it.


[27-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Audrey#7852
People driven to commit suicide on Twitter by who?


[27-Aug-20 06:07 PM] Opponent#3498
and you saying that instead of flat out denying it is enough of a confession to me.


[27-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Audrey#7852
Far right trolls use this tactic all the time for the kek and lilz


[27-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
what do the Twatter brigades use it for? How do they justify it?


[27-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Audrey#7852
When I engage against far right people I prove them wrong


[27-Aug-20 06:08 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, 'better future' and all that shit. Yeah. Gotta feel good about yourself going to bed today.


[27-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Audrey#7852
And in the hope to get them to educate themselves or be ashamed


[27-Aug-20 06:09 PM] Opponent#3498
when you engage against far right people it's the blind fighting the maimed. You're both wrong and ignorant enough for the conflict to be indefinite.


[27-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
> to get them to educate themselves or be ashamed


[27-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Audrey#7852
When an asshole deadname trans people, tell blacks people they are n*** and being overall horrible yes that's justified


[27-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Opponent#3498
you know, and I'm being 100% genuine here. I can bet _anything_ that this is EXACTLY, word for word, is what they think of you when engaging you.


[27-Aug-20 06:10 PM] Audrey#7852
And if I break the rules it's not a big deal


[27-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
it never is, isn't it.


[27-Aug-20 06:11 PM] Opponent#3498
the ends justify the means. Two purges aren't enough, we need the third one. Gotta maintain that ideological purity.

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[27-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Yeah but we don't want to harrass or harm people and that's a big difference.


[27-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
I see you and I realise who lead and approved all the wonderful and colorful things in Europe in earth 20th.


[27-Aug-20 06:12 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not even the people with nothing to lose. It's ignorant 'intellectuals', zealous enough to convince the indifferent that their's is the only way.


[27-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Audrey#7852
based on their gender, social caste, skin tone or religion


[27-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Just based on their occupation, Twitter feed, party registration and income.


[27-Aug-20 06:13 PM] Audrey#7852
and as bronies who know what it is to have a gender divided society you should support this


[27-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm not even certain most of you here are bronys...


[27-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I support it, I really do. People are free to choose their path. 
And I really hate you and yours. Funny, that there's absolutely no conflict there.


[27-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey brony since 2012


[27-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Phelan#7647
I prefer the name horsefucker, but I've been watching since before S3 at least.

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[27-Aug-20 06:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> When I engage against far right people I prove them wrong
@Audrey  proving them wrong does not matter if their livelihood, political class interests and worldview remain the same


[27-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Phelan#7647
Cause I remember the wing stuff well


[27-Aug-20 06:15 PM] Opponent#3498
Twilicorn? Yeah, that was fun.


[27-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Audrey#7852
Blue, if you never have been attacked for your interest on pink unicorns or girl's toys you probably don't understand the idea


[27-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
http://stonetoss.com/comic/no-choice/

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[27-Aug-20 06:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You have to understand that these people don't just willingly give up their ideology based on a decent debate


[27-Aug-20 06:16 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 they were advocating for isolation and elimination already. They do understand it.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
but the most Twatter blob can do is ruin one life at a time. It's ineffecient.


[27-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Opponent#3498
elect them as a state official, and things will change ;)


[27-Aug-20 06:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It is based on class hatred and nothing else -- to fascists, the working class is degenerate, stupid, bites the hand that feeds them, and all that ideological garbage


[27-Aug-20 06:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey i just keep my pink unicorns or girls toys in private and noone wants to attack me

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[27-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Audrey#7852
What if you went to school or anywhere with a pink t-shirt saying I love unicorns and ponies"


[27-Aug-20 06:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can't just convince fascists to drop their bigotry and join you -- you'll have to resort to revolutionary action and either disarm or, if need be, kill them

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[27-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Audrey#7852
and got bullied for it or have an agression?


[27-Aug-20 06:18 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 that's the plan ;) Industrialised removal of the undesirables.


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
they spelled it out before, although this discussion goes on a while already.


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not industrialized, just shoot fascist leaders and soldiers


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
no-no. You have to maintain ideological purity.


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There's no such thing in communism as an "undesirable" as nazis call them


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
idk there is a chance that some chavs would try to do something but probably nah


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Everypony yes, but sometimes you give the people one chance to change, other are iredeemable!


[27-Aug-20 06:19 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, but there is, in their mind. The wrongthink is what makes an undesirable, unfit to exist in their perfect society.


[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Audrey#7852
When people don't understand why we shoot their leaders and oppressors we can explain to them too

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[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok nazi


[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Audrey#7852
Show what their regime have done


[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] Opponent#3498
finally. And the mask comes off.


[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> oh, but there is, in their mind. The wrongthink is what makes an undesirable, unfit to exist in their perfect society.
@Opponent  it's not just wrongthink that matters here -- often, fascists really just do act concretely against the interests of the revolutionary proletariat


[27-Aug-20 06:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I could care less about what some person thinks -- what i care about is what they *do*


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nice edit


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, nice try.


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Audrey#7852
You're abusing me I'm new at this


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
kek


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Phelan#7647
New to keeping your mask on?


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
what you meant to say is, 'If people don't understand why we shoot them, we can explain it to them too'.


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Audrey#7852
That's not funny


[27-Aug-20 06:21 PM] Opponent#3498
on the contrary, that's absolutely hysterical.


[27-Aug-20 06:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Audrey don't worry about this if you're just new to communism, people will mock you all the time


[27-Aug-20 06:22 PM] Audrey#7852
I was replying to Everypony i

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[27-Aug-20 06:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Does every far left or far right wants spread their ideology and eliminate their competitive?


[27-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Phelan#7647
I just wanna grill


[27-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
horseshoe isn't a fallacy.


[27-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Everypony, I expected people here to have a different approach, not to communism roughly but not with a right wing mentality like this. I have been on another brony chat for a year and never encountered that


[27-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Opponent#3498
they all come together in the end. In goals, in methods, in justifications.


[27-Aug-20 06:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Wanted to find out about that community nazis hate and make up my mind


[27-Aug-20 06:24 PM] Opponent#3498
I hope you made it up. Nobody will miss you if you leave.


[27-Aug-20 06:24 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't plan to leave why do you want me to?


[27-Aug-20 06:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Opponent goals are not the same between communists and nazis and neither are the justifications. And, funnily enough, neither are the methods if we consider that nominally "communist" states aren't part of the communist movement

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[27-Aug-20 06:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I hate nazis who wants to keep others silent

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[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And it doesnt matter if they left or right to me


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Reminds me of that poster who claims nazism and communism is the same.


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
It isnt?


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Uh maybe, causing genocides?


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Phelan#7647
People that are anti-communist aren't nazis. The nazis also wanted to kill my family a decade after the soviets tried to starve them out.


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Yes communism caused lots of genocides


[27-Aug-20 06:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communists intend to uproot the existing social order and eliminate the mechanisms that the elites use to repress people and maintain their privileges -- nazis instead wish to secure that social order and crush anyone who says otherwise


[27-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm pretty sure they didn't


[27-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Phelan#7647
I obviously hate the nazis more, but I'm not talking about fascism here.


[27-Aug-20 06:26 PM] Audrey#7852
'to starve them out' Capitalism in a nutshell since 200 years


[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decossackization

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Decossackization (Russian: Расказачивание, Raskazachivaniye) was the Bolshevik policy of systematic repressions against Cossacks of the Russian Empire, especially of the Don and the Kuban, between 1917 and 1933 aimed at the elimination of the Cossacks as a separate ethnic, pol...
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[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Audrey#7852
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[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р, romanized: Holodomór; derived from морити голодом, moryty holodom, 'to kill by starvation'), also known as the Famine-Genocide in Ukraine, the Terror-Famine and sometimes referred to as the Great Famine or the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33...
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[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The class interests of communists and fascists aren't the same either -- the former depends on the class conscious proletariat to perpetuate itself, whereas the latter depends on the bourgeoisie (small and large), and a few scraps of the old reactionary clergy and nobility


[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

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The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 Polish military officers and intelligentsia carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD ("People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs", the Soviet secret police) in April and May 1940. Though the kil...
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[27-Aug-20 06:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres

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NKVD prisoner massacres
The NKVD prisoner massacres were a series of mass executions of political prisoners carried out by the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs of the Soviet Union, across Eastern Europe, primarily Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and Bessarabia. After the start...
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[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, posting the holodomor and all the massacres perpetuated by the Soviet Union is valid as to their classification as massacres -- but attributing them to the communist movement is disingenious


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah the list goes on, and on...


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And thats just the soviets,if u google a bit about asian massacres u gonna be sad


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stalin's soviet union wasn't a communist state because there is no such thing


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea well it felt like real communism


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Opponent#3498
well, the label fits. And, yeah, compared to asians this is relatively tame.


[27-Aug-20 06:28 PM] Audrey#7852
Are you that anonymous who raised Dissociativity's posts on 4chan or raid site Kiwifarms?


[27-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Audrey#7852
Blue?


[27-Aug-20 06:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Yea well it felt like real communism
@Phelan  if you're historically illiterate, it does, yeah


[27-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
lol no


[27-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ive used 4chan maybe two or three times in my life


[27-Aug-20 06:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Where was it posted on kiwifarms?


[27-Aug-20 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The Soviet Union was surely borne out of a revolution but the material constraints of its territory and resources prevented it from actually being classifiable as a communist society


[27-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Audrey#7852
It's a harrassment site I forgot where


[27-Aug-20 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They had to industrialize -- Russia was backwards and rural


[27-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh Dis is passionate and sometimes just shitposts and baits for the sake of it, but has a point in some ways.


[27-Aug-20 06:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism can only spring up as a movement where there is capitalism and its inherent contradictions


[27-Aug-20 06:31 PM] Opponent#3498
you are... Just a walking stereotype.


[27-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess for every minigun-wielding Texan, every balalaika-playing Russian, and so on, there's a leftist Twatter brigadier people scare their children with to get them to behave.


[27-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
@ Audrey


[27-Aug-20 06:34 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 also important thing to remember about Soviet Union. It came to be as a war-time sabotage by 2nd Reich, Lenin recieved funding and assistance from the Germans for the explicit purpose of producing a rebellion and ending the stalemate on the Eastern front. It worked not a moment too soon, too, Brusilov probably had a shot at something great there at the end.


[27-Aug-20 06:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You didn't ping her


[27-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I didn't want to. If they left, I don't want to give a reason to return.


[27-Aug-20 06:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Does Venezuela counts as socialism?


[27-Aug-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, the bolshevik revolt within Russia was in the short term interests of imperial Germany at that time


[27-Aug-20 06:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Smug Trixie no. Venezuela is inherently nationalist


[27-Aug-20 06:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It maintains a national bourgeoisie, caters to it, and plays within the global resource and energy market to further its own ruling class' interests, to the detriment of the working class situated within its borders


[27-Aug-20 06:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The movement of the workers (legally controlled by the Venezuelan regime in this case) to further their class' well-being and incorporate more people into their class is the communist process here


[27-Aug-20 06:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Chavez, Maduro, and their lackeys do use the language of the "worker" and "anti-imperialism" as propaganda leverage, yes, but that's basically to conceal the horrendous situation the Venezuelan working class finds itself in


[27-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1298743543649857536?s=20

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Here is the verified GoFundMe to support the family of Anthony Huber—the hero who gave his life attempting to take down a gunman in Kenosha & save others. All funds will be sent to Anthony's partner & stepdaughter. https://t.co/mXLRPIrH0F
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[27-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/LeftyCrypto/status/1298835272184938497?s=20

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This is who @gofundme is calling a hero https://t.co/BeaXp2CU5U
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[27-Aug-20 06:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Does this matter?


[27-Aug-20 06:41 PM] Opponent#3498
it kind of does, yeah. For the purposes of calling a hero anyway.


[27-Aug-20 06:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what will this information change?


[27-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Opponent#3498
For criminal proceedings, it shouldn't. 
For GoFundMe, it should.


[27-Aug-20 06:42 PM] Phelan#7647
The first guy that got shot was a pedophile.

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[27-Aug-20 06:42 PM] byte[]#2610
feel like I need to hide this channel for the next month xd

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[27-Aug-20 06:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cool, one of the protestors a random nazi shot to death has a criminal record. What is the relevance of this to society?

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[27-Aug-20 06:45 PM] Phelan#7647
>nazi
I don't think he was.


[27-Aug-20 06:45 PM] byte[]#2610
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[27-Aug-20 06:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m gonna need a source on that pedophile claim


[27-Aug-20 06:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk fam but the fact that far-right terrorism in the US is a thing despite there not being much of an organized working class there is much more worrying in regards to the bigger picture


[27-Aug-20 06:46 PM] Phelan#7647
He was on the right, but not a Nazi. As far as the pedo stuff, give me a sec.


[27-Aug-20 06:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah guys i'm skeptical of this considering how boogaloo boys are your source


[27-Aug-20 06:47 PM] Phelan#7647
Here, this is his entry on the sex offender watchlist.

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[27-Aug-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Post the site link


[27-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yall always skeptical about our sources but u believe in anything liberal media says :ponythinking:


[27-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Searching for past sins reminds me of on ST:TNG episode, where investigation ended up with digging into past as reason to nail a man.


[27-Aug-20 06:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m skeptical because this is the first i;m hearign about this


[27-Aug-20 06:48 PM] Phelan#7647
https://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/WI60063/Joseph-D-Rosenbaum.html

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Joseph D Rosenbaum - Sex Offender in Kenosha, WI 53142 - WI60063
View Sex Offender registry info for Joseph D Rosenbaum in Kenosha, WI 53142 - WI60063.


[27-Aug-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also what does this have to do with the shooting?


[27-Aug-20 06:49 PM] Phelan#7647
He was the first guy that was shot.


[27-Aug-20 06:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and what does his sex offender registry have to do with the shooting?


[27-Aug-20 06:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm searching the FBI sex offender site for "joseph rosenbaum kenosha" and nothing comes up in regards to this


[27-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Phelan#7647
Oh, I'm just not a fan of pedophiles.


[27-Aug-20 06:51 PM] Opponent#3498
this will come up during the proceedings if true, so, gotta watch out for that.


[27-Aug-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ngl this site doesn't sound intuitively sourced -- the criminal record link goes to a page with questions, not information

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[27-Aug-20 06:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also the crime dates from 2002


[27-Aug-20 06:52 PM] Phelan#7647
I was just mentioning it to say that it's a bad look if people try to make him into a martyr


[27-Aug-20 06:53 PM] Phelan#7647
Or something like that.


[27-Aug-20 06:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.mywot.com/scorecard/homefacts.com

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[27-Aug-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
a convicted drug addict/trafficer became a martyr buried like a King, anything's possible.


[27-Aug-20 06:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We're not? What we care more about is that far-right radicals are perpetrating acts of domestic terrorism


[27-Aug-20 06:53 PM] Opponent#3498
far-right radicals. And your government. And Twitter.


[27-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
...and shitty education... And probably other things.


[27-Aug-20 06:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> This site is a scam site that uses sex offender registries illegally. They post sex offenders with inaccurate information on their site or people that have already been removed or that were never on the registries to begin with. They are already being sued in several states as well as by the ACLU for illegal use of sex offender registries to perform their practice of defamation to sell their services to unsuspecting realtors and consumers.


[27-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
okay then. Well like I said, if this is legit, it'll come up in the court proceedings. Attacking a character of people involved is common.


[27-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Phelan#7647
I fully expect him to only be hit with weapons charges.


[27-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Phelan#7647
The key of the case is if the first shooting was justified and, in my opinion, it probably was.


[27-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't trust sex offender brand in particular, US is commonly known to use it as a cancel tactic. So no opinion on if it's true here.


[27-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
A decent amount of people on it are on it for stuff they did as kids or for things like streaking or public urination


[27-Aug-20 06:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
same for the msot part, it;s also way easier to land on a sex offender registry than people realize


[27-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Opponent#3498
oh it was justified. The guy closed into melee with a fleeing target, despite attempts to ward him off non-violently.


[27-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Opponent#3498
the only thing the rifle guy didn't do was a warning shot.


[27-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Phelan#7647
No, he shouldn't have fired a warning shot.

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[27-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Phelan#7647
It's advised not to fire warning shots and injuries from them (which happens, bullets gotta come down) are put on the shooter.


[27-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Opponent#3498
hmm, yeah, fair.


[27-Aug-20 07:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
teenagers land on the pedophilia side of the sex offender registry for having nudes of themselves on their phones


[27-Aug-20 07:01 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah and that's fucked up.


[27-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Kobold, thanks for the fact check I tend to use https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=homefacts.com but it's not always up to date

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[27-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Audrey#7852
I always encourage teenagers to check Snopes and AP first when they see fake news and intox


[27-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelan do you support murder of people who committed no crime without a fair trial?


[27-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Opponent#3498
🎣


[27-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Audrey#7852
I just demand to know the context not to fall for disinfo


[27-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
🎣 :bigbrain:


[27-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Audrey#7852
"Neonazi with a gun shot a protestor who acording to a dubious site has been registered as sex offender" I'm going to agree with Everypony, it does not excuses a shooting or defending a criminal!


[27-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
you're trying to establish a rapport here, to find supporters. It's almost cute in how transparent it is :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop belittling her, she's arguing in good faith


[27-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
no, sorry, no they don't.


[27-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Phelan#7647
I'm fine with people acting in self defence and, from what I've seen, he's got a 95% chance of claiming self defence on the first guy.


[27-Aug-20 08:16 PM] Phelan#7647
You can't just chase after someone trying to disengage from a fight. Frankly, if you do and he's open carrying, I wouldn't be surprised if you got shot


[27-Aug-20 08:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
doubt about that bro


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He crossed state lines to participate in another protest and he likely does not have the legal age permit to open carry iirc

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[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Teaspoon said that dude was carrying a rifle illegaly


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yes, for that he's absolutely in the wrong @BadgingBadger🦄🌈


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
that's not the topic of discussion though. Nor is it relevant for self-defense or otherwise.


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
His intent was clear -- he was looking for trouble


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Phelan#7647
Not saying that he wouldn't get weapons charges, but even if you steal a gun while being a felon and use it to defend yourself, you still wont be charged with murder.


[27-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Opponent#3498
like, it's not a question if he's guilty. The question is, what exactly is he guilty _of_.


[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Murdering two people


[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Wait


[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
or maybe not.


[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Phelan#7647
And I gave that hypothetical because that happened in New York a while back.


[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So there's a site that makes fake sex offender registry entries?

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[27-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
the court will decide.


[27-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon you're suprised? With how much hysteria there is around loli, Epstein and this whole topic in general, it would be only a matter of time before people started profitting from it.


[27-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
if anything I expect it to having existed since like 2010's if not earlier.


[27-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Audrey#7852
That looks like dox sites ngl


[27-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Opponent#3498
I'll take your word for it, you've clearly got experience using those.


[27-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Perhaps it's true but if someone has been convicted and allowed to be free does it justifies being shot at a protest? (no ofc) And that's where I disagree, I oppose all form of sex abuse and child molestation but this is a tactic the right uses to defend the shooter and it's ugly!


[27-Aug-20 08:22 PM] Opponent#3498
add more 👏 and 🆘


[27-Aug-20 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop mocking her


[27-Aug-20 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You're not helping your case


[27-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Opponent#3498
this is implying that I have a case that needs helping.


[27-Aug-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
my goal is simple. I want them gone. I don't believe the enemies of Derpibooru have a place on this channel, peddling their stuff.


[27-Aug-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oooh how scary and serious


[27-Aug-20 08:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
wdym enemies of derpibooru?


[27-Aug-20 08:24 PM] Opponent#3498
it's internet, nothing is scary here xD


[27-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Treascair#7785
*pokes beak in* ... ah. So this is why my phone is exploding. Right, back to reading Spice & Wolf.


[27-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Audrey#7852
When his name is just 'Opponent' there's nothing surprising.


[27-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie this here individual represents people who attacked Derpi not too long ago, with the demands to remove the content and people they deem offensive. It triggered huge drama, exodus, and so on.


[27-Aug-20 08:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you base your political enemy-friend identity on a cartoon horse TV show art site, then congratulations, here's your retard certificate

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[27-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ye i've been around that drama but it all ended with some minor rule changes,isnt it?


[27-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
well it's not political. The enemies just happen to share the identity.


[27-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
it ended with nothing. The site endured. But Nyronus, Wootmaster and others aren't gone anywhere.


[27-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Opponent#3498
now we get... this one.


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm not here to make enemies, I'm trying to comprehend fans of My Little Pony adhering and defending radical right wing politics since last year


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
as long as they not trying to enforce anything idc what they do so idk why you so hostile bro


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Opponent#3498
oh they were absolutely trying to enforce it before.


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Wootmaster was fed up with the racism present there, so did Potluck and Dilarus.


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Would the removal of a specific political strata of horse show art from one among many sites for such do anything more than inconvenience you?


[27-Aug-20 08:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't know if this individual did. Others like them did.


[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Phelan#7647
Literally Whomaster


[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 give a finger, lose an arm.

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[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Audrey#7852
And many others who explained what is going on several times, you got to pay a bit of attention.


[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Opponent#3498
you generally don't negotiate with terrorists, it only encourages more acts of terror.

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[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lmfao


[27-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Phelan#7647
Literally Wholuck
Literally Wholarus


[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Please, for the love of god, just shut the fuck up. It'd make the world a better place overall

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[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Audrey#7852
Wootmaster is a terrorist now?


[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
in relations to Derpi? Absolutely.


[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
He tried to enforce his rules over our lovely site

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[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Phelan#7647
Nah, but he's banned off derpi for doxing people


[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And he used shitty tactic by spreading lies in twitter and some shitty "news" site


[27-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Opponent#3498
even in the literal sense of being a militant political activist threatening force to achive the goals.


[27-Aug-20 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Every political ideology, even centrist liberalism, depends on threat of violence to be enforced


[27-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Audrey#7852
Your lovely site? Which one? Rainbooru or Ponerpix? 🤣

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[27-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
derpiboru oblivious


[27-Aug-20 08:31 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This whole talk of "scaaary extremists coming to get you for your non-compliance with their ideology" is just a justification mechanism for those already in power


[27-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 true. And generally I don't mind. Terrorists, however, are the ones bringing the foreign ideology to replace the existing one.


[27-Aug-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There'd be some justification if these extremists were to materially affect you or the spaces liberal bourgeois society uses to discuss ideology and politics, but the controversy here is literally about an art site for a minor fandom. There's no relevance to be had here whatsofuckingever


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
liberal bourgeois again. Sigh


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you dislike Derpibooru for censoring political art, cool. Go to another pony site


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't mind. That's the point.


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Opponent#3498
some assholes come into my home and threaten my hosts to bow down and comply with their demands. Why would I leave?


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Scary and dangerous political extremists says - 'I would like the community to speak out because racists are using pony characters in order to spread racism and slavery jokes using zebras, also the swastika and aryanne drawings are a bit too much'


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Previous comments imply you do


[27-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Phelan#7647
Just cause someone owns the site doesn't mean we cant disagree over the moderation decisions.


[27-Aug-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> some assholes come into my home and threaten my hosts to bow down and comply with their demands. Why would I leave?
@Opponent  derpibooru is not your materially existing house lmfao


[27-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
there's more to life than meatspace though. Else you automatically discount everything and everything happening online. But nice try.


[27-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Audrey#7852
All of 4chan - 'This guy want us to be kind? That's censorship! Let's draw more offensive things with anzis and racism!'


[27-Aug-20 08:35 PM] Opponent#3498
This guy wants to silence us. Let's not let him.


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, there is technically more to life than meatspace, and 90% of life in cyberspace is just pointless suffering tbh


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Opponent#3498
boy oh boy can I understand the feeling.


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 how would you feel if any communism related art is gonna be banned on derpibooru?


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'd shrug -- there's other places i can get that from


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
like what place


[27-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Phelan#7647
Well... the government isn't required to censor something...
You can disagree with censorship of all things.


[27-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Audrey#7852
If it were just the brony community it would be laughable, but when it's furries and several others infected with these 'memes' it is kind of wrong you know


[27-Aug-20 08:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Twitter? Discord channels? Other pony sites? I don't know, because i don't care


[27-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
the government is the government. It's a force of nature that's slow to change and react, you have to play around it.


[27-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Opponent#3498
you don't have to play around an individual, or a group of individuals just because they're feeling rowdy today.


[27-Aug-20 08:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Remember governments can change every 4-5 years 🙂

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[27-Aug-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The only purpose of "government" nowadays is to perpetuate bourgeois dominance over the current state of affairs tbf


[27-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah yeah Badger, how is all of this relevant?


[27-Aug-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk fam, i just feel like talking


[27-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Audrey#7852
Totally agreed, they don't care about the interests of people or social issues going on nowdays.


[27-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Opponent#3498
this is misdirection again.


[27-Aug-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Misdirection?


[27-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Opponent#3498
isn't that supposed to be the tactic of the Dreadfull All-powerful Alt-right?


[27-Aug-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What


[27-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Audrey#7852
Something something because the altright is on the rise everywhere in europe or got their president elected in the US?


[27-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, now you both just start talking about random irrelevant stuff.


[27-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, that works. It's impossible to continue like this.


[27-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Audrey#7852
Fair enough, I guess?


[27-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Serenity#9645
my form of racism is better then yours?


[27-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey they never cared about people


[27-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Phelan#7647
Richard Spencer is voting for Biden lol


[27-Aug-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The "alt-right" is just a bunch of recluse and semi-recluse dudes who have failed in life and try to compensate for that through political squabbling. There's nothing *excessively* dangerous about them as of now, until the proletariat gets organized in the future and they form the core of the future freikorps to crush them.

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[27-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelan do you think he is sincere and not just lying then vote for Trump?


[27-Aug-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They're only one element in the capitalist system


[27-Aug-20 08:42 PM] JC Denton#7076
Imagine trying to justify wootmaster doxxing people

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[27-Aug-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Social-democrats are, surprisingly, keen to ally with the alt-right under pressure


[27-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 are the 'Internet thought police' Twitter crowd the successful ones?


[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't justify this, but I think he was rather trying to identify actual nazis in the fandom


[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Am I wrong or do you have an archive of his posts? Tell me more about it


[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Opponent#3498
well, at the end of it I count as one, so mission successful I guess.


[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Phelan#7647
Look at Richard Spencer's twitter, he's retweeting Trump attack ads soooooo


[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Opponent Maybe? most of them have friends and a social support net

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[27-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Audrey#7852
I have seen one side of the story and spoke with them briefly on Twitter


[27-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Audrey#7852
And later on a different chat room


[27-Aug-20 08:44 PM] Opponent#3498
oh boy it's the 'reasonable doubt' time.


[27-Aug-20 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Explain?


[27-Aug-20 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why do you not believe they have irl friends?


[27-Aug-20 08:45 PM] Opponent#3498
quality irl time generally saps away from frenzied internet activity and activism.


[27-Aug-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Social, physical interaction does tend to shape one person's views on society as a whole


[27-Aug-20 08:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What's Spencer done since he got punched, anyway?


[27-Aug-20 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Also, what the fuck do you mean by "internet thought police"?


[27-Aug-20 08:46 PM] Opponent#3498
Twitter militant crowd of course. Different names for the same ol same ol.


[27-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Audrey#7852
I'd like to see Richard Spencer invited on a democrat rally and then get assaulted and kicked out, here's your support


[27-Aug-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Same old what?


[27-Aug-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wokescold liberals? Socialists? Anarchists? Biden supporters? They're a diverse bunch


[27-Aug-20 08:47 PM] Opponent#3498
same old bullying and preying on the weak and passive in search of self-justification


[27-Aug-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Stop being obtuse, i'm asking you a question


[27-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Serenity#9645
i dont remember opponent stating a political affiliation?


[27-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
when people come and harass you for the lolz, they don't hide who they are. But this particular bunch here tends to use honeyed words and abstract feelgood terms like 'better society', 'greater good', whatever the fuck else. We just want you to be good UWU!


[27-Aug-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
God you are getting tiring to talk to


[27-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Opponent#3498
@Serenity he's asking about the specific brand of bullies I was referring to.


[27-Aug-20 08:49 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't understand anything what Opponent just said, I will need a better translator

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[27-Aug-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'll decide if i might just say "fuck you" and move on


[27-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Audrey#7852
Yeah this convo is getting toxic


[27-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd know toxic yeah :wheeze: 
but by all means, feel free to move on. We're not buying 'exclude and eliminate' here.


[27-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Just before I crash on TV or grab anything on Netflix a quick question to Opponent, Serenity, Phelan or Blue:


[27-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Opponent#3498
~~please don't be cuties please dont be cuties~~


[27-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Serenity#9645
you can be a group without political affiliation. if a group targets others that are weaker and targets them sometimes ruining their lives for justification. then that group is bad


[27-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Audrey#7852
If you encounter a nazi IRL, in a convention, or any context, do you punch them?


[27-Aug-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, that's natural in regards to internet and social media


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Define "nazi"


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Serenity#9645
^^^^^


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
depends. First, yeah, define nazi.


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah it might be better to develop this question a bit further


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Teaspoon: Varieties of far right guy, white supremacist, nationalist, MAGA or generally a racist


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Serenity#9645
i very rarely agree with TSP or opponent so this is kinda akward


[27-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Opponent#3498
this is a purity test, we've had someone from the right, asking to denounce communism here not too long ago.


[27-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That is a huge net...


[27-Aug-20 08:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Next question, why are they there

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[27-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That warps the definition of "nazi" to be meaningless


[27-Aug-20 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the 💪WORKING CLASS💪 has taken up arms and is in the process of overthrowing capitalism and the "nazi" is one who's resisting history by force, then yes, i'll shoot them


[27-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Opponent#3498
WBP worded it better than I would.


[27-Aug-20 08:54 PM] Audrey#7852
Not gonna say a WW2 Nazi because they are all on a grave 😄


[27-Aug-20 08:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, it really doesn't matter what the ideology is, if someone is there to spark outrage by getting you to punch them in the face, then punching them in the face is the one thing you should not do


[27-Aug-20 08:54 PM] Audrey#7852
(Some remains but hopefully not for too long.)


[27-Aug-20 08:54 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. And if you're on their home turf for some reason, that's also ill-advised.


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Serenity#9645
if that is the definition of nazi, i couldn't tell you what is a actual nazi so i wouldn't hurt a random person, or really hurt anyone that isnt actually hurting others even if they have stupid opinions


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much anyone with any decision-making capacity died a _long_ time ago. What remains are teen footsoldiers, who generally operated under 'do this or get shot'.


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Opponent#3498
so no, they don't really count, no matter who says otherwise.


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Audrey#7852
WingBeatPony, I kind of mean, actual racists who harrasses people, death threats, doxes, KKK members, the term for nazis is sadly very broad


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nazism and fascism don't necessarily require an intelligentsia to function or take power


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"punching a nazi" is always the correct thing to do, but "is conservative" or "votes Trump" is very far from being a nazi


[27-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Phelan#7647
@Audrey I would never assault anyone that doesn't put me in a self defence situation.


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They just need the bourgeoisie, capitalism, and the organized working class as a threat


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This definition also doesn't cover the possibility that someone is espousing antifa ideology hoping you'll punch them in the face so as to discredit antifa


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Opponent#3498
also common now, yeah.


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Phelan#7647
If a nazi puts me in a self defence situation (and knowing how smart they are, they probably would), I'd do what I can to defend myself.


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The world is not as simple as fascists would like you to believe


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fulfill all the social conditions required for fascism to be considered by the ruling classes and you'll get your Hitlers and Goebbelses in no time


[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If someone out there actually enacting ethnic cleansing, particularly through genocide, then they deserve a good punching regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum

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[27-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Teaspoon: I can agree not every Trump supporter is one, but that was the modern kind, the Proud Boys, those who shout 14-88 and so on 🙂


[27-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes these we do agree!


[27-Aug-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And what do we call the people who look at potentially fascist behavior taking place and say "I don't care?"


[27-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Assaulting people is a good way to both make them martyrs, galvanize people with their views, and make uninformed randos sympathetic


[27-Aug-20 08:58 PM] Opponent#3498
@Teaspoon and not just ethnic. 'The jew' was a religious thing primarily, so it's a form of wrongthink.


[27-Aug-20 08:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"sticks and stones" got it totally backwards


[27-Aug-20 08:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
No, the nazis clearly racialized Jews


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the nazis ruined the color pink


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Opponent#3498
well, okay, Italy didn't. Maybe I'm wrong there, not 100% on the specifics.


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It'd be better if you used "communist" as your comparison for persecution


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Individualism is the problem, if everyone claims any problem is "none of my business" is the reason why we're here


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I can barely follow who's saying what anymore, Imma go back to cooking


[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, that's why I say don't assault someone unless they assault you. Not only might it help their cause, you could get yourself thown in jail for that. The Westburo Baptist church makes their money cause people always try to assault them and they sue.

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[27-Aug-20 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
But cults of personality and mob mentality and groupthink are also the problem and the reason why we're here

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[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Audrey#7852
Assaulting gratuitously no. But a response to someone who has been threatening or agressive


[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
@Phelan although I think that enterprise fell apart after their patriarch died. But, yeah, the core idea remains.


[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
All this tells me is that it ain't just *cops* that need de-escalation training


[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
de-escalation is like weapons training. It should be mandatory for _everyone_.


[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Phelan#7647
Really depends on what you mean by "threatening or aggressive".


[27-Aug-20 09:00 PM] Opponent#3498
particularily in the US, the iconic Land of the Angery.


[27-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Phelan#7647
At least, legally speaking.


[27-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelan if you say  'don't assault someone unless they assault you.' assaulting group of people on the internet is just starting. People have to learn freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences.


[27-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Serenity#9645
so id like to know audrey, with your description of a nazi. would you punch them?


[27-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Like I said, if someone likes Hitler, nazi items, think the white race is superior, jokes about the holocaust, pushes trans teens into suicide all behind his computer


[27-Aug-20 09:02 PM] Phelan#7647
From physical consequences, yea. If anyone punches me, I'm gonna punch back and then sue them.


[27-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Serenity#9645
so your changing your description?


[27-Aug-20 09:03 PM] Audrey#7852
No I didn't. The alt-right and extremists, KKK, racists are pretty much one group to me.


[27-Aug-20 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
know thy enemy


[27-Aug-20 09:04 PM] Audrey#7852
If they were here we could sue them and warn their publications as heinous


[27-Aug-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
We can't dismantle these groups legally, the state defends them most of the time


[27-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Audrey#7852
That's worrying 😦


[27-Aug-20 09:05 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
there is no one tactic that works against all of theirs


[27-Aug-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why else do you think the FBI has destroyed the Black Panthers and most old communist groups but not the KKK?


[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The KKK destroyed themselves


[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Because they were supporting the "Enemy" during Cold War. Also I researched the ANSU


[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seriously "grand wizards"


[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Gonna get bullied hard for that

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[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Serenity#9645
lol


[27-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes that's mean toward wizards!


[27-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Phelan#7647
The KKK is half undercover agents. Reason why they haven't killed people for like 40 years


[27-Aug-20 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Government and law enforcement is routinely in cahoots wih the far-right. The only reasonable solution to this is to overthrow them


[27-Aug-20 09:07 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well, ever since the Tulsa Greenwood massacre, it hasn't mattered what becomes of the KKK as an organization or whether the state supports them, because they've been trying to become the state ever since *reconstruction* and as far as I can tell, as of now, they have


[27-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Teaspoon#9532
>cop gets caught with kkk robes
"He was undercover!"
sure...
=p


[27-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Phelan#7647
Not saying that the KKK isn't an evil organization at all, it's just that whenever people try to do stuff, undercover cops just arrest the whole lot.


[27-Aug-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Like when?


[27-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Audrey#7852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism#United_States If it was only the KKK there's others

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[27-Aug-20 09:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're gonna have to clarify because the undercover arrests that have been taking place lately have been rather notably *not* KKK


[27-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Audrey#7852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)#Right-wing_populism

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In United States politics, the radical right is a political preference that leans towards extreme conservatism, anti-socialism, and other right-wing beliefs in hierarchical structure. The term was first used by social scientists in the 1950s regarding small groups such as the ...


[27-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Phelan#7647
Well, they haven't killed anyone since 1981, I'd imagine that there's a reason about that and I bet it's not because the KKK turned around


[27-Aug-20 09:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
They put on other masks, that's the biggest reason


[27-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Audrey#7852
Not as an organization they are still armed and have shot people


[27-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Serenity#9645
nah they just beat the crap out of people. dont cross the line too far and it will be seen as peaceful


[27-Aug-20 09:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
the sharp increase in murders related to hate crimes says otherwise


[27-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik KKK is effectively dead just because of all the negative rep


[27-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Ferguson when that guy ran into people.


[27-Aug-20 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Yeah, you look around and they're not even trying to hide what's going on. They're not KKK, they're some other little group that Kleverly decided to replace some letters in their name


[27-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Instead people join stuff like "Iron Vikings" or "Greater Nation" or whatever fancy new names they can use that sound cooler and don't evoke goofballs in capirotes


[27-Aug-20 09:12 PM] Audrey#7852
To me the KKK is now a state of mind not an organization, the opposite of ANTIFA.


[27-Aug-20 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wut


[27-Aug-20 09:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
in a sense, this is correct


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, yeah, you don't need a membership card to prove you're racist if your actions speak for themselves


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm gonna explain a bit better, it's not because a movement no longer exists as an organization it is dismantled


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
with the addendum that there are two? Three? organizations all still claiming to be the "real" KKK


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Man, imagine cleaning up your grandad's home after they pass away and you find some KKK robes


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Fucking awkward


[27-Aug-20 09:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes everypony that's what I meant sorry for being confusing ^^


[27-Aug-20 09:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@Teaspoon especially if they don't fit you or your brother cletus. Super awkward :P


[27-Aug-20 09:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"guess that explains why they always used _that_ version of eenie minie moe..."


[27-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
it's history.@Teaspoon . Might donate that to a museum or some shit. Or sell off, if you're smart about it.


[27-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Audrey#7852
I'd set it on fire


[27-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nah, museum makes sense


[27-Aug-20 09:15 PM] Opponent#3498
you'd set the entire house on fire. Lives before posessions and all :twismug:


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Audrey#7852
If there's a museum of hatred maybe


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Opponent#3498
after all, you have to destroy what you disagree with, right?


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Sell off the KKK robe and use the money to buy weapons, then distribute the weapons among your workplace friends and go on strike. Stonks


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There are plenty here in Berlin...


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Audrey#7852
I would no joke but would rather sell the house to a muslim or black person for almost nothing 😄


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm sure there are enough museums in the US dedicated to the history of racism / civil rights


[27-Aug-20 09:16 PM] Audrey#7852
My grandparents and parents are ultra conservatives


[27-Aug-20 09:17 PM] Opponent#3498
mm. Explains the zeal.


[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Audrey#7852
There's plenty of monuments there

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[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Where do you live


[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Audrey#7852
You're German Teaspoon?


[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I am not, just live there


[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(live/work)


[27-Aug-20 09:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Great!


[27-Aug-20 09:19 PM] Audrey#7852
It's a place I could visit, trying to understand the history, and culture


[27-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Serenity#9645
i just got back from a year in germany, used to work there and am going back next year. i like it there


[27-Aug-20 09:20 PM] Audrey#7852
But I think Germans now understood a lot from the past and are completely diferent from what I imagined


[27-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Serenity#9645
not always, depends on where you go in germany. berlin isnt all of germany


[27-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Berlin is barely Germany


[27-Aug-20 09:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You hear more English, Italian, Spanish, French, Ukranian, Russian, and Turkish on the street than you hear people speaking German

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[27-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Serenity#9645
down in bad wurttemberg and bayren you hear alot of italian, english and turkish. but still a good bit of german


[27-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Serenity#9645
and i guess korean there's alot of tourists from there


[27-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, when I lived around the Black Forest there was plenty of Italian, mostly due to the swiss


[27-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Also very few people spoke English in the town I was at


[27-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Serenity#9645
it was kinda half and half in the towns i was in. im just glad they can understand my shitty german lol


[27-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Audrey#7852
Here too there's a lot of foreigners in Paris


[27-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Audrey#7852
French claims Paris isn't France for the same reasons, tourism, business, just diversity like in every large city


[27-Aug-20 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not just the french. Basicly everyone that has ever been there that I spoke to claimed it's kebab central.

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[27-Aug-20 09:38 PM] Opponent#3498
a dozen people, give or take.


[27-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Can you just try and not be racist for two minutes, Opponent?


[27-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Also I like doner


[27-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Opponent#3498
not with you around, no. It brings out the beast inside me.


[27-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Kebab's good food


[27-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Better than most french food...


[27-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Opponent#3498
it really is though.


[27-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Audrey#7852
I agree, it's tasty, like a good burger with white sauce and garlic


[27-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Serenity#9645
yeah dönner kabap is pretty good


[27-Aug-20 09:41 PM] Opponent#3498
Turk and caucasian foodstuffs became de-facto standard street food here, instead of burgers.


[27-Aug-20 09:41 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't mind McDonalds from times to times but really it's good to vary


[27-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Serenity#9645
i prefer local foods, so much variety to fast food


[27-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Phelan#7647
Kebab is good drunk food.


[27-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Audrey#7852
French food itself is overrated, frog, snails, and burgundy beef, saussages of all kind, everything with cheese


[27-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Haven't been in a restaurant since a decade, the prices are insane


[27-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Andouillette, mmmm


[27-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Phelan#7647
And I'm not saying that in a racist way, one of the best meals I've had was at a kebab stand at like 2AM outside a bar piss drunk, and I've eaten at some damn nice restaurants.


[27-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Audrey#7852
These kind of disgusts me when you know what it's made of


[27-Aug-20 09:44 PM] Serenity#9645
for a really good local historical restaurant it usually costs me 10 eur or less with a local bier


[27-Aug-20 09:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Y'all need to try Brazilian food tbh


[27-Aug-20 09:45 PM] Phelan#7647
The best thing I've eaten while sober was at a place in times square, my dad's work paid for that meal.


[27-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Phelan#7647
It's pretty dumb but my dad's job paid for my first bronycon, he needed to be in the DC area that weekend and had a 2-for-1 flight voucher for Delta.


[27-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The best thing I've ever eaten was a dark chocolate dunkin donut an AssProd handed to me when I was 13 hours into crunch -_-


[27-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Dunno what it is lol.


[27-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AssProd? Assistant Producer


[27-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Just my opinion aobut French food and restaurants basically it's just very bourgeois. And they whine because people don't frequent their businesses


[27-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Audrey#7852
I get it I thought it was a porn joke ^^


[27-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Treascair#7785
I'm looking forward to some of the international deployments my hubby might get. We look at it and go "we can see new places AND have awesome food we've never experienced before? SCORE!"


[27-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Audrey#7852
As long there's a Quick, BK or JustEat food isn't my priority


[27-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Audrey#7852
It's fuel the cheaper it is the best it is


[27-Aug-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-trump-bolsonaro-deaths-study-a9690521.html

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‘No need for further studies’ into unproven Covid-19 treatment supported by US president, researchers say
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[27-Aug-20 10:25 PM] Opponent#3498
:caddy:


[27-Aug-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah, big surprise


[27-Aug-20 10:26 PM] byte[]#2610
@Opponent though honestly, if you die, you technically don't have the disease anymore

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[27-Aug-20 10:27 PM] byte[]#2610
so, good recommendation if you're a paperclip AI


[27-Aug-20 10:38 PM] Audrey#7852
trump should take some more in preventive


[27-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
He was for a week


[27-Aug-20 10:40 PM] jlun2#8758
great, now he's going to promote it even more to spite the scientists


[27-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I saw it on the news it was fun^^


[27-Aug-20 10:51 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ccWpzFgOM I should learn German next

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[27-Aug-20 11:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.insider.com/cops-admitted-vandalized-cars-man-filed-complaints-2020-8

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2 New Jersey cops admitted they dressed in disguises and vandalized...
The two Asbury Park cops, who smashed car windows, pleaded guilty to criminal fourth-degree criminal mischief. They can't work as officers anymore.
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[27-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
> They can't work as officers anymore.


[27-Aug-20 11:05 PM] Marukomuru#8409
:squintyjack:


[27-Aug-20 11:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at least not in that city, probably gonna be shuffled to a new city for police work


[27-Aug-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is police killing people is the extreeme end of police committing crimes, they pull other much less deadly crimes constantly


[27-Aug-20 11:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
stalking people, breaking into places because they felt spited, making life hard for anyone who complains about their harrasment


[27-Aug-20 11:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
protection rackets


[27-Aug-20 11:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
destruction of property


[27-Aug-20 11:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so much pet murder... :ineedanadult:


[28-Aug-20 12:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and of course literally just taking stuff from people they arrest because they can


[28-Aug-20 01:16 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-cdc-director-testing-guidelines-backlash-robert-redfield-a9692231.html

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Dr Robert Redfield says 'testing may be considered for all close contacts of confirmed or probable Covid-19 patients'
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[28-Aug-20 01:22 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215

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[28-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
This after Fauci denounced how the new guidelines got his "seal of approval" while he was literally unconscious on an operating table?


[28-Aug-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
yeah


[28-Aug-20 01:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
"aw heck he woke up"

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[28-Aug-20 01:22 AM] byte[]#2610
in other news, number small life bad https://apnews.com/a9ef11294c55f6fc8d130194dd507d0a

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U.S. economy plunged an annualized 31.7% in second quarter
BALTIMORE (AP) —  The U.S. economy shrank at an alarming annual rate of 31.7% during the April-June quarter as it struggled under the weight of the viral pandemic, the government estimated...
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[28-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Also damn

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[28-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
when LARPing goes wrong


[28-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Kid was playing wannabe cop since he was 14, going to "cop summer camps" and everything


[28-Aug-20 01:23 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe this is just what happens if you go to a "cop summer camp"


[28-Aug-20 01:24 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, was ROTC just not an option?


[28-Aug-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
ROTC teaches rules of engagement and shit


[28-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Teaspoon#9532
cop summer camp teaches how to clear a room, how to immobilize and handcuff people, the fun stuff


[28-Aug-20 01:25 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
however this *might* explain why the cops let him go...he was talking to them earlier, what are the chances this came up in conversation and he was accepted as "one of them"


[28-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Primarily, he's white


[28-Aug-20 01:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean besides the obvious reasons


[28-Aug-20 01:26 AM] Teaspoon#9532
If it'd been a black kid with an AR15 walking torwards the cops he'd be 50 shades of dead


[28-Aug-20 01:27 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-meltdown-missed-phone-call-putin-mike-flynn-theresa-may-meeting-a9691001.html

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‘If Putin wants a call with me you just put him through,’ US president yelled according to Theresa May’s former chief of staff
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[28-Aug-20 01:28 AM] byte[]#2610
> You never want to miss a call from your boss.

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[28-Aug-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/27/media/white-house-dossier-journalists/index.html

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The White House said in a story published Thursday that it was compiling a "very large" dossier on a Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post reporter and others who it said are a "disgrace to journalism and the American people."
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[28-Aug-20 01:31 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
gosh I wonder whose idea that was


[28-Aug-20 01:32 AM] byte[]#2610
First amendment: dead


[28-Aug-20 01:33 AM] byte[]#2610
like this is basically the pettiest possible equivalent of a slapp being conducted by the federal government


[28-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://twitter.com/KristenClarkeJD/status/1298838339160768516

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Racism runs deep through the law enforcement community of #Kenosha County, Wisconsin.  These statements from the Sheriff sound straight from the 1969s. https://t.co/VnipB5uKCD
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[28-Aug-20 01:53 AM] Marukomuru#8409
I *was* going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he did add "I don't care what race they are", buuuut then I found that this was from a press conference involving an arrest back in 2018 involving five black individuals https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/08/27/kenosha-county-sheriff-2018-statement-under-new-scrutiny/5645279002/

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"I'm to the point where I think society has to come to a threshold where there are some people that aren't worth saving," David Beth said in 2018.
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[28-Aug-20 01:54 AM] Marukomuru#8409
So it's *pretty clear* who he was talking about lol :zeeb:


[28-Aug-20 02:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I guess the silver lining of all of this is that they're all out in the open about it now


[28-Aug-20 02:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
The downside is that the president isn't the "leader of the free world" anymore not because someone else is going to pick up the slack, but because the "free world" no longer exists for us


[28-Aug-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Wait, the world is not free at all?"
"Never has been."


[28-Aug-20 02:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> while he was literally unconscious on an operating table?
wait what


[28-Aug-20 02:17 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/26/politics/fauci-coronavirus-cdc-testing/index.html

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Fauci says he was in surgery when task force discussed CDC testing ...
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[28-Aug-20 02:18 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
HA GET 'EM https://twitter.com/nbcchicago/status/1299066680069558273?s=21

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[28-Aug-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
God says "no"


[28-Aug-20 02:21 AM] PwnyPony#6185
WhY DiDn't PoLiCe ShOoT HuRrIcAnE?


[28-Aug-20 02:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they didn't have the budget for nukes I guess


[28-Aug-20 02:27 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Could get them cheap from military surplus


[28-Aug-20 02:39 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/video-kamala-harris-defends-protests-condemns-looting-in-kenosha-2020-8

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Kamala Harris came out in defense of peaceful protesters in Kenosha...
On the protests in Kenosha, Harris said "we should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter."
https://i.insider.com/5f4819dfcd2fec00296a4aad?width=1200&format=jpeg


[28-Aug-20 02:41 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Welcome to special coverage of RNC with Derpibooru!


[28-Aug-20 02:42 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaker: "I just wish people can see the deep empathy he shows to families"

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[28-Aug-20 02:45 AM] Teaspoon#9532
God, it's like a B movie preamble


[28-Aug-20 02:48 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I just wanted to grill"


[28-Aug-20 02:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I was a democrat until they stopped being republicans"


[28-Aug-20 02:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
again, another mention of "radical democrats"


[28-Aug-20 02:51 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
A person claims Joe Biden will "Raise Taxes"


[28-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
I hope he's powerful enough to raise them as ghouls at least.


[28-Aug-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
shades or skeletons are really disappointing.


[28-Aug-20 02:55 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
this speaker was decent until the trump campaign shilling


[28-Aug-20 02:55 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking now: Dan Scavino, Social Media Strategist


[28-Aug-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has such soul staring eyes


[28-Aug-20 02:56 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Dan Scavino: "My story with Trump is the same with yours"


[28-Aug-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:wheeze:


[28-Aug-20 02:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Donald Trump is a kind and caring man"


[28-Aug-20 02:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Grab 'em by the pussy"

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[28-Aug-20 02:59 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Excuse me, where's the lobby?


[28-Aug-20 03:00 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Whose family fled communism and oppression" bitch his family was exiled form germany because his grandfather was a draft dodger

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[28-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Runs in the family


[28-Aug-20 03:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Mitch: "We won't be bullied by liberal media"


[28-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
plz no buli


[28-Aug-20 03:04 AM] Opponent#3498
(such a shame that fic died... Rip)


[28-Aug-20 03:05 AM] byte[]#2610
which fic


[28-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Opponent#3498
'no bulli' or something. H'Twilight the hardcore masochist, with a journal venting her desires, seduces a guy with said journal to live it out.


[28-Aug-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
it might be on fimfetch


[28-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
only had the initial chapter


[28-Aug-20 03:07 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, you mean it never took off


[28-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah.


[28-Aug-20 03:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/514068-pro-life-activists-paint-baby-lives-matter-mural-outside

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Pro-life activists paint 'Baby Lives Matter' mural outside Planned ...
Activists in Charlotte, N.C., painted the words “Baby Lives Matter” on the street in front of a Planned Parenthood facility, according to multiple reports.
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[28-Aug-20 03:38 AM] byte[]#2610
oh, they matter? how come the US has the highest infant mortality rate of the developed world?


[28-Aug-20 03:44 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Tom Cotton: "You all are at home while I stand alone"


[28-Aug-20 03:45 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Tom Cotton: "Trump puts America First"


[28-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/NicXTempore/status/1299021205161283586

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Protesters build a guillotine outside of Jeff Bezos’s house. Yesterday the Amazon billionaire was reported to become the first man worth $200 billion. https://t.co/tY1wb0F1uj
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[28-Aug-20 03:53 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Y’all see vermin supreme?


[28-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Not since the war


[28-Aug-20 04:01 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
The video claims Trump "strengthened the economy"


[28-Aug-20 04:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's been an ongoing claim the entire convention


[28-Aug-20 04:03 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"Trump stopped Covid"

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[28-Aug-20 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
what they want to hear. what they want to hear. what they want to hear.


[28-Aug-20 04:22 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they must hear what they want to hear, they need to, else they face the reality that they were wrong


[28-Aug-20 04:23 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Speaking now: The man himself, Donny Trump!


[28-Aug-20 04:26 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The Don Trump


[28-Aug-20 04:32 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report wtf how could this happen

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White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, ...
A former FBI agent has documented links between serving officers and racist militant activities in more than a dozen states
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[28-Aug-20 04:36 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump claims Democrats push a socialist agenda.


[28-Aug-20 04:37 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump asks, "How can the DP help our country when it spends its time destroying it?"


[28-Aug-20 04:40 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump: "Joe Biden is not a savior of America's soul, he is the destroyer of America's jobs, the destroyer of American greatness"


[28-Aug-20 04:45 AM] Itsthinking#8251

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[28-Aug-20 04:46 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
A mask-less and no social distancing crowd. What could go wrong?


[28-Aug-20 04:48 AM] Opponent#3498
nothing whatsoever. Karma is clearly not a thing in this world.


[28-Aug-20 04:49 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump: "The best has yet to come"


[28-Aug-20 04:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"Four more years" chants all around.


[28-Aug-20 04:50 AM] Opponent#3498
still waiting on him proclaiming himself the supreme leader or smth


[28-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
it'd be weird not to have them chanting.


[28-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the place of the most concentrated Trump worship in the world.


[28-Aug-20 04:53 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
really hoping it's a concentrated covid hotspot too


[28-Aug-20 04:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
just...the hubris of not testing


[28-Aug-20 04:57 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump shows his empathy towards the families of the victims of COVID, when he downplayed it in the first place.


[28-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
> The FBI did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


[28-Aug-20 04:59 AM] Marukomuru#8409
What are they going to say? *"I told you so."?*


[28-Aug-20 05:00 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump claims the US has the lowest fatality rate, claims the EU has "3x the fatality rate of US"


[28-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
might actually be true there.


[28-Aug-20 05:01 AM] Opponent#3498
this is rate, i.e. most likely percentage per population


[28-Aug-20 05:02 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Yeah but Trump did not elaborate. By doing this we would assume the deaths overall, not per capita.


[28-Aug-20 05:05 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump: "Biden's agenda is Made in China, mine is made in the USA"


[28-Aug-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Here come the crocodile tears about abortion to appease Evangelicals


[28-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Under God" shouldn't be in the Pledge


[28-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Opponent#3498
in God we trust shouldn't be on the money either. But there you go.


[28-Aug-20 05:12 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump: "No one will be safe from Biden's America"


[28-Aug-20 05:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
He doesn't give a fuck about any blue state.


[28-Aug-20 05:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Trump: "No one will be safe from Biden's America"
@LeafyWasNotHere  they have said Biden intends to "dethrone" and "hurt" god, so if Biden is able to do that then they have reason to be scared

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[28-Aug-20 05:15 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"I am become Joe Biden, destroyer of worlds"


[28-Aug-20 05:15 AM] Itsthinking#8251
20th century American Evangelicalism did more damage to Christianity than pretty much anything but the Reformation.


[28-Aug-20 05:16 AM] Opponent#3498
pretty much, yeah.


[28-Aug-20 05:17 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
"Democrats didn't mention the riots"


[28-Aug-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
MAGIC SKY CLOTH NEED PRAISE


[28-Aug-20 05:21 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Trump talks about cancel culture.


[28-Aug-20 05:21 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking if jesus came back the evangelicals would claim he's commie spy lol


[28-Aug-20 05:23 AM] jlun2#8758
@LeafyWasNotHere 
tbh just ban facebook & twitter as a national threat


[28-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
At some point the anti-cancel culture movement will loop around


[28-Aug-20 05:24 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People will be like "I can't say anything about anyone without being accused of trying to cancel them, people are actually doing bad stuff and people say I'm just trying to ruin them"


[28-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
that moment is decades away.


[28-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Opponent#3498
right now shit needs to _just stop_.


[28-Aug-20 05:26 AM] Itsthinking#8251
How?


[28-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Opponent#3498
good question. The mobs know their power now.


[28-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Mobs"


[28-Aug-20 05:27 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Shit, one dedicated person could ruin you if they really wanted to.


[28-Aug-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
online mob but they still wont vote :ts_cry:


[28-Aug-20 05:28 AM] jlun2#8758
go mob polling stations pls

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[28-Aug-20 05:38 AM] jlun2#8758
too many ppl posting controversial stuff on their main accounts; i have no idea when will society as a whole realize "dont post shit on accs that link to you"


[28-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Phelan#7647
Is taking a shit in the polling booth a form of voter suppression. Serious answers only.


[28-Aug-20 05:39 AM] Phelan#7647
I think you could definitely make a case for it.


[28-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
They don't think it *is* controversial, is the thing. People grow up insulated and surrounded by others who normalize all kinds of wacky views which they then uncritically parrot online and don't understand why people respond negatively toward them for it.


[28-Aug-20 05:40 AM] Opponent#3498
I suppose it could count, yeah. Like all the other forms, it raises the threshold of determination needed to go through with it.


[28-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
nothing will deter me

i'd crawl over broken glass to vote for biden this year

and i can't fucking stand biden


[28-Aug-20 05:41 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, but it might put the voting machine out of order.


[28-Aug-20 05:42 AM] Phelan#7647
I wonder how difficult it would be to sway the results of an election. You and a few buddies could easily shut down an entire polling location.


[28-Aug-20 05:44 AM] Dr. Mechano#9877
I know this is mostly a jokey question, but in all seriousness I think there are contingencies for that. Like if there was a power outage or something at a polling location I think they might extend time to make up for the delay?


[28-Aug-20 05:46 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, it's a jokey and absurd example, but I think it's a different thought experiment.


[28-Aug-20 05:47 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Designated shitting booths, duh


[28-Aug-20 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
You know, a lot of the cries of voter fraud (showing up multiple times to vote, voting by mail and in person, etc) could be alleviated if we didn't have voting booths


[28-Aug-20 06:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, not that those are concerns to begin with, but still


[28-Aug-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
They aren't concerns because as has been shown time and again, voter fraud is exceedingly rare and completely ineffective - but *electoral* fraud is a real thing and people (mostly republican, incidentally) have been caught tampering with votes. The way to alleviate that is to reduce the number of ballots any one person in the system can get access to before they're accounted for. In other words: voting by mail


[28-Aug-20 07:02 AM] Crow#5457
it's kinda absurd how bloodthirsty the people who support the 17 year old illegally handling and transporting weapons across state lines are


[28-Aug-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
well yeah, their facebook timeline was all about molotov cocktails and how he was calling 911, of course they want to believe he was in the right


[28-Aug-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
(neither of these things were true; it was an empty bottle in a plastic bag and he called his friend to say *"I just killed someone"*)


[28-Aug-20 07:29 AM] Itsthinking#8251
People are bloodthirsty in general


[28-Aug-20 07:31 AM] Crow#5457
it's also ironic that they're completely willing to ignore that he was breaking the law to be there to begin with in favor of mocking the people he killed


[28-Aug-20 07:38 AM] jlun2#8758
they want laws to be applied to certain people, but not themselves


[28-Aug-20 07:39 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
This is Derpibooru Breaking News!


[28-Aug-20 07:39 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1299216617054900224?s=21

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BREAKING: Japan’s NHK and other media say Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has expressed his intention to step down, citing his health.
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[28-Aug-20 08:20 AM] Crow#5457
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[28-Aug-20 09:09 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[28-Aug-20 09:42 AM] Crow#5457
jesus fucking christ what is wrong with these psychopathic shitbags (gore warning, it's the two muscled arms grabbing each other hands meme, but with the white arm torn out like the guy who got shot by the 17 year old kid) ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734446073019367434/748806997062713344/XOGByhBv.png ||

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[28-Aug-20 09:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
that maymay is true tho


[28-Aug-20 09:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
they trying to defund cops then ask em to help


[28-Aug-20 09:44 AM] Crow#5457
but that dismisses what hey actually want, they don't want to get rid of the role that cops fulfill, just the shitty corrupt departments that systemically protect the bad cops from accountability


[28-Aug-20 09:44 AM] wren#0114
its painful to look at the arm


[28-Aug-20 09:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
wouldnt be so sure about what antifa wants


[28-Aug-20 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
antifa wants to get rid of fascists

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[28-Aug-20 09:45 AM] Crow#5457
that's why they're called antifa


[28-Aug-20 09:46 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
they behave like a fascists tho


[28-Aug-20 09:46 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
They become what they hate


[28-Aug-20 09:47 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.dw.com/en/what-is-antifa-history-ideology-and-tactics-explained/av-54035970

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What is Antifa? History, ideology and tactics explained | DW | 03.0...
Is Antifa a ‘terrorist organization’ as US President Donald Trump claims, or are they small, scattered groups, trying to fight fascism? Let us unpack their story, from Nazi-era Germany to the present-day United States.
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[28-Aug-20 09:48 AM] Nebbie#8545
To behave like a fascist would imply working in a manner where those in authority turn a blind eye to individual actions that support the desires of that authority, and where said desires involve labeling and pushing out identified groups and dissent.

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[28-Aug-20 09:51 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Thanks for describing Antifa for me, Nebs


[28-Aug-20 09:57 AM] Crow#5457
what authority does antifa have?


[28-Aug-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
To be clear, they would either need authority themselves OR work with authority.


[28-Aug-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
If authority isn't on their side, trying to operate like fascists would just fall apart.


[28-Aug-20 09:58 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
they decentralized but they want everyone to do things they say


[28-Aug-20 09:58 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's not what fascism is.


[28-Aug-20 09:59 AM] Nebbie#8545
Pushing out dissent is a *necessary* requirement for fascism, but not *sufficient*.


[28-Aug-20 10:01 AM] Nebbie#8545
The main things you'd need to show here are:
1. Exerting power over others using threats of violence or complicit authorities.
2. Targeting specific groups they blame for societal problems for harm.
3. Reacting harshly to dissenters.


[28-Aug-20 10:02 AM] Nebbie#8545
1 is a fairly low bar really, you could pretty easily make the case, especially with European Antifa, since threats of violence are fairly easy to do and common in modern politics.


[28-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
3 is a somewhat trikky thing because I don't think they generally go after people who are "moderate" especially within-ranks, but my understanding is that while they *disparage* people who they view as complicit, they don't take much action.


[28-Aug-20 10:03 AM] Nebbie#8545
2 you can easily show with them targeting fascists.


[28-Aug-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
So where things really fall apart for this is that while they *target* a group and blame that group, and even at times go after it with violence, they don't operate quite like fascists because they're fairly willing to not force people to all do it with them.


[28-Aug-20 10:05 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
With how how commonly 'fascist' and 'racist' are used nowadays, it has basically boiled down to 'if you don't agree with me, you're X'


[28-Aug-20 10:05 AM] Nebbie#8545
You can't really hav "tolerant fascists".


[28-Aug-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
By the same token, anyone flying a Nazi flag alongside a confederate one is probably just a racist, not a fascist.


[28-Aug-20 10:06 AM] Nebbie#8545
If they were fascist they'd really not want to muddy everything up like that, it would make for a weaker case, which is highly against fascist thought.


[28-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok there is no fascism in antifa but that does not mean that organisation is good


[28-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Nebbie#8545
The problem really with talking about antifa is actually what Tiddy just brought up.


[28-Aug-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
While there are anti-fascist organizations for sure, most people who will *identify* as antifa, and be on the street, are not like, registered members of anything.


[28-Aug-20 10:09 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're random people who want to latch on, like something like Anonymous.


[28-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
Which is what makes the idea of calling them a terrorist organization hilarious.


[28-Aug-20 10:10 AM] Nebbie#8545
It's akin to if Obama had tried to designate Anonymous as a terrorist organization, and V& anyone that participated in hakks on its targets.


[28-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
anonymous is usually do things for keks while antifa wants to force their liberal ideas into every aspect of your life


[28-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and then also V& anyone that posted in the same threads, even)


[28-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't think that makes sense as a distinguishment.


[28-Aug-20 10:11 AM] Nebbie#8545
Many of Anonymous' targets are groups that are considered morally incorrect.


[28-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
People aren't doing it for the sake of the hilarity if they're like, trying to dox pedophiles.


[28-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
They're almost certainly doing it because they believe the target is an ill upon society and should be hurt.


[28-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
This is the same logic as antifa.


[28-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Nebbie#8545
(and why you might see it go after a *racist* rally that isn't technically fascist)


[28-Aug-20 10:12 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
do you think otherwise nebbie?


[28-Aug-20 10:13 AM] Nebbie#8545
Otherwise of what?


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[28-Aug-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
You mean do I think they don't do it for the keks? I think some might do it for such, but the choices of target are pretty indicative of why most would bother.


[28-Aug-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Certainly any of the times Anonymous did *in-person* protests, that was mostly people choosing targets they thought morally bad.


[28-Aug-20 10:14 AM] Nebbie#8545
Doxxing of course can be pure hilarity.


[28-Aug-20 10:43 AM] Radomila Radon#7762
> jesus fucking christ what is wrong with these psychopathic shitbags (gore warning, it's the two muscled arms grabbing each other hands meme, but with the white arm torn out like the guy who got shot by the 17 year old kid) 
@Crow Please respect Christian people


[28-Aug-20 10:44 AM] Radomila Radon#7762
I'm a Christian


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[28-Aug-20 10:51 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[28-Aug-20 10:56 AM] Nebbie#8545
@Radomila Radon I believe it's unreasonable to expect people not to use a religion's names as negative emotional interjections because of someone around being part of the religion.

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[28-Aug-20 10:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Aug-20 11:29 AM] Audrey#7852
I almost agree, Princess Luna, except being antifa isn't using the same reasoning. Alt-right and fascists attacks minorities.
Anonymous overuses the term pedophile to give a valid excuse to harrass people, especially in the politics they don't like.
Antifa attacks these people so they stop and think twice before attacking minorities again.
When we're antifa, we're committing acts of resistance against these people.


[28-Aug-20 11:33 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
When we're anonymous,we're commiting act of resistance againt these people.


[28-Aug-20 11:37 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
audrey do you have any examples of how alt rights attacking minorities?


[28-Aug-20 11:37 AM] Audrey#7852
Is that a serious question or are you being sarcastic?


[28-Aug-20 11:38 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
serious question


[28-Aug-20 11:42 AM] Audrey#7852
Trigger warning: Racism, hate speech and transphobia. Have some examples below: https://twitter.com/fortuneamadi16/status/1299280458157563904
https://twitter.com/Oblivion683/status/1299279417382899713
https://twitter.com/sarajevo_sniper/status/1298765460087898117

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@WomenvoiceNG_ Dying does not stop wars. A nigger remains a nigger even when called house nigger. The place you called homeland could well be taken from you if docility is your preference.
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@hamdia_ahmed They should give him a gold medal for shooting a fucking nigger.
#Isupportrustensheskey
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Options for young white American men:
- tranny
- nazi
- commie
- suicide
- drug overdose
- some combination of the previous
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[28-Aug-20 11:43 AM] Audrey#7852
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Gonna help the tranny suicide rate go up 😳
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[28-Aug-20 11:43 AM] Audrey#7852
Warning: violence, blood... https://twitter.com/TerrelleGraham/status/1287751737617588226

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The aftermath of a racial hate crime that occurred in Southmead, Bristol last week. 

This 19 year old man left work and was purposefully ran over (into a brick wall), which broke his legs and cheekbones. Eye witnesses stated the suspects yelled “FUCKING NIGGER” as they did i...
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[28-Aug-20 11:44 AM] Audrey#7852
(I'm crying, this is awful and just a quick search of what happened in the past 24 hours)


[28-Aug-20 11:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
and you 100% sure all those people are alt right?


[28-Aug-20 11:45 AM] Audrey#7852
> Eye witnesses stated the suspects yelled “FUCKING NIGGER”


[28-Aug-20 11:46 AM] byte[]#2610
alt right isn't even a thing any more it's been subsumed by the right


[28-Aug-20 11:46 AM] Audrey#7852
I totally agree, it's now hard to tell exactly who is who


[28-Aug-20 11:46 AM] byte[]#2610
"traditional conservatives" invented new terminology to try to distance themselves from the consequences of their ideology

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[28-Aug-20 11:47 AM] Audrey#7852
I often talk with right wing moderates, who are angry about Macron. And often we start talking politics, it's then about gender, abortion, then migrant, and the right wingers usually end up saying something like 'We should kill the niggers' and use even more jokes


[28-Aug-20 11:48 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Yelling slurs doesn't make you alt right.


[28-Aug-20 11:48 AM] Audrey#7852
'hey Audrey do you enjoy working with arabs and niggers?'


[28-Aug-20 11:49 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I've been called plenty


[28-Aug-20 11:49 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
By both sides


[28-Aug-20 11:49 AM] Audrey#7852
Yelling antisemitic slurs, attacking someone based on their skin color or ethnicity, having a discourse that embrace nationalism and white supremacy is exactly alt-right


[28-Aug-20 11:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
or arabs


[28-Aug-20 11:51 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
So if an African-american that's pro-blm calls me a bog-trotter then what?


[28-Aug-20 11:51 AM] Audrey#7852
There's a lot of muslim and other minorities in the college I'm working for, and this is a rather closed community. Do you really think there's a lot of white kids here? No because parents don't want their teenagers to frequent or associate with people based on their differences


[28-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Audrey#7852
What's a bog-trotter? I never heard of that, can you explain the etymology of that word?


[28-Aug-20 11:52 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
A slur used to insult those of Irish descent


[28-Aug-20 11:53 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Specifically calling me low class as well


[28-Aug-20 11:55 AM] Audrey#7852
So you understand what discrimination is


[28-Aug-20 11:55 AM] dissociativity#8391
hmm yes a slur that real 21st century people use

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[28-Aug-20 11:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
bringing out ye olde slur dictionareyy


[28-Aug-20 11:57 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Don't be a smartass Diss, this was only a few months ago to me


[28-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Audrey#7852
TiddySpruklez you are a victim of racism in a sense because Americans think you're different. That's a minor form of racism but you know how it feels like.


[28-Aug-20 11:57 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Actually I'm Canadian


[28-Aug-20 11:58 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I'm just interested in American politics


[28-Aug-20 11:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
wait so did like, a 92 year old call you it?


[28-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Audrey#7852
(Canada is in America as a continent, the same way I'm European and live in Europe )


[28-Aug-20 11:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
who uses words like that?


[28-Aug-20 11:59 AM] Audrey#7852
some people are very nostalgic


[28-Aug-20 11:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
I wish to know whomst the fuck this is and where I can find a copy of ye olde slur dictionairey


[28-Aug-20 12:00 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I don't know the guys age sadly, but he looked a bit older then me at the time


[28-Aug-20 12:00 PM] Audrey#7852
I've heard white teens from white families who are talking like it's 1812, with old french style and vocabulary no one uses today. Cimagrée. Me, relax, trying to teach them some vocabulary


[28-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Audrey#7852
'What do you mean by dawa, or seum?'


[28-Aug-20 12:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Very conservative people tend to use old french here as a mean to rejection and it's cringe. When you're French you know from which region or even social class someone is by reading or talking with them, and some really have a mop in the ass. but use that style to act like they are superior. Me, I'm laughing and retort 'Miskhin' (many of them are arabic expressions and that pisses them off)


[28-Aug-20 12:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
sorry, not really laughing at you, more like, how pathetic someone must be to use said slur and how obscure that shit is so it's like, just a really bizzare thing to happen, absurd, but no doubt it did, and that's what makes it funny, the pure absurdity


[28-Aug-20 12:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
something you respond with 'what the fuck are you talking about?' to


[28-Aug-20 12:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Indeed, so I'm doubting this is legit.


[28-Aug-20 12:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not doubting it's real completely, it's one of those funny rare absurdist comedy moments that are interesting to experience no doubt

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[28-Aug-20 12:07 PM] byte[]#2610
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It’s here!! Our Autism Awareness Vehicle will be patrolling the streets of Miami. If you see it say hi, take a picture, and tag us! 🚔👏🏻🙏🏼#Autismawareness #mpd #community https://t.co/8GWg2TA1xl
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[28-Aug-20 12:07 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
It honestly caught me by surprise as well, considering my accent isn't 'that' noticeable


[28-Aug-20 12:07 PM] byte[]#2610
this photo gave me autism tbh


[28-Aug-20 12:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
where you momentarily feel like you're in bizzaro world.


[28-Aug-20 12:13 PM] Audrey#7852
7520$ collected for autism association is great anyways, but still cops


[28-Aug-20 12:14 PM] byte[]#2610
except as far as I can tell it was for Autism Speaks


[28-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey ACAB?


[28-Aug-20 12:14 PM] byte[]#2610
which is not an "autism association," it's a grift pool run by neurotypicals who view autism as an incurable disease that parents have to suffer through when raising a child


[28-Aug-20 12:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, if money were not waisted paying armed people who bullies but spent on helping people would be better


[28-Aug-20 12:16 PM] byte[]#2610
my point is that they should have spent the money on autism advocacy groups run and staffed by actual autistic people, but especially not _Autism Speaks_


[28-Aug-20 12:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
So you think our society is ready to exist without a police and no one is gonna commit crimes?


[28-Aug-20 12:16 PM] byte[]#2610
@Smug Trixie nice strawman


[28-Aug-20 12:17 PM] byte[]#2610
here you go https://i.imgur.com/SsGwlSs.jpg

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[28-Aug-20 12:17 PM] Audrey#7852
I never really knew what that association was Moosebug but I worked with autistic teenagers too I know it's hard and parents are lost, but Autism is not curable, it is a mental condition and autistic people need rights to live and society has to adapt to their needs.


[28-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Police often plant or hide drugs or weapons to accuse someone of crime


[28-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Nice pic but unfortanetly even if you spend all those police money on these programms people would still commit crimes


[28-Aug-20 12:18 PM] byte[]#2610
AS in particular has in the past released several commericals that dehumanize autists entirely and basically say it's a curse for the parents. I understand that they want to step away from that particular bit of their history, and normally, I might be more forgiving, but the same people who were there are the beginning are _still there_ and still advocating for the same dehumanization of autists


[28-Aug-20 12:19 PM] Audrey#7852
If you ever been arrested and a cop asks you to detach your belt, then they will fine you for not having your security belt or similar tricks when it's not your brake light they break


[28-Aug-20 12:19 PM] byte[]#2610
@Smug Trixie except the police don't prevent crimes, they show up after the crime is already committed.


[28-Aug-20 12:19 PM] Audrey#7852
They are the highest form of capitalists. They invent crimes to fine people or arrest them


[28-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Audrey#7852
Thank you for the information Moosebug


[28-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Audrey#7852
So all cops are still bastards


[28-Aug-20 12:20 PM] byte[]#2610
I'm not saying the police don't have a role, or that the concept of policing should disappear, but the current system is simply unsustainable and police departments as they stand ought to be disbanded and rebuilt because of a widespread culture of contempt for civilians


[28-Aug-20 12:20 PM] byte[]#2610
they protect their own and don't give a fuck about the lives and safety of others. that's why people say these things.


[28-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Audrey#7852
Every community should establish their police and law enforcement, or rather people who come to help and use reason instead of using guns or fine.


[28-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Audrey#7852
With at its core human rights as a most important principle


[28-Aug-20 12:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
More social worker training would be great


[28-Aug-20 12:23 PM] byte[]#2610
and by the way, police unions are not real labor unions, because they don't actually advocate for safety reforms and regulations that protect cops. they are basically mini mafias designed to protect the existing stance of the organization. and the demands of a union cannot be against the law. this works both ways (for those "right-to-work" states, who seem so obsessed with "back the blue" slogans)


[28-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Audrey#7852
I agree, social workers are the idea, here we have mediator people in the suburbs called Grand Frêres, they are close to young people and important social link with communities,


[28-Aug-20 12:24 PM] Audrey#7852
they are helping, not sanctioning and that works.


[28-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Audrey#7852
Cops can't become social workers. Generally you hire someone who's from the district and grew there and know the situation on the terrain a bit like me, talk with the parents, talk with the kids, teenagers. Teach respect and them to be respected.


[28-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Audrey#7852
When cops are patrolling down my building they only care about causing drama.


[28-Aug-20 12:27 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Considering most cops work in pairs, it would be ideal for one to be a social worker instead


[28-Aug-20 12:27 PM] byte[]#2610
the catch here is that the US has a widespread mental illness problem that has never been properly addressed


[28-Aug-20 12:27 PM] byte[]#2610
it used to be several decades ago that we'd have a judge declare them insane and lock them away in asylums ("looney bins")


[28-Aug-20 12:28 PM] byte[]#2610
but those were all disbanded, and for very good reasons (highly unethical conditions and "scientific experiments" run amok). but when they did that, they didn't return those people to their families or anything, they just dumped them on the streets.


[28-Aug-20 12:29 PM] byte[]#2610
furthermore there are specific chemicals we used to use in industrial processing (tetraethyllead, methylmercury) and plumbing that have bioaccumulated in specifc regions and caused widespread mental deficiency in those regions. how do you deal with bad mental health side effects of an entire state's population?


[28-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Audrey#7852
And these people are mad at society, and buy guns and ends in tears


[28-Aug-20 12:30 PM] byte[]#2610
the house I grew up in has lead paint. I am lucky to not have been adversely affected too much, but others weren't so lucky.


[28-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Audrey#7852
Sorry to hear 😦


[28-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ha ha in russia we used leaded gasoline until 2003


[28-Aug-20 12:32 PM] Audrey#7852
That was ableist, sorry, giving myself a slap.


[28-Aug-20 12:32 PM] byte[]#2610
it was quite funny


[28-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[28-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but im mad at u now :gallus:


[28-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Audrey#7852
That wasn't an adequate answer, some people actually suffer of various intoxication


[28-Aug-20 12:33 PM] byte[]#2610
yes, russia has many various forms of intoxication


[28-Aug-20 12:34 PM] byte[]#2610
russian standard, moskovskaya, beluga, ...


[28-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Audrey#7852
and combined with social conditions that's not helping.


[28-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
now u talking


[28-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what u gonna do to help poor russian people


[28-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Biggest intoxication sourc in Russia remains the government in power there, and RT.


[28-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you manage to help your family Moosebug ? Like not having them being alone or being autonomous?


[28-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Have I told about chain of command integrity yesterday? That is the problem.


[28-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Audrey#7852
I think I missed it


[28-Aug-20 12:38 PM] byte[]#2610
if anything I'm the one in my family who needs help :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 12:38 PM] byte[]#2610
being quite autistic and despite high functioning, inattentive to ordinary living matters


[28-Aug-20 12:39 PM] Audrey#7852
I didn't knew, you don't sound autistic at all, but autistic people tend to be just different and often even, smarter than average


[28-Aug-20 12:40 PM] Audrey#7852
Just misunderstood. I tested myself and found out I'm a bit in the aspergers spectrum


[28-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
sometimes i think im autistic


[28-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Audrey#7852
But I worked on myself, read a lot, I devoured Francoise Dolto, a notorious psychologist who studied childhood development


[28-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't like autism being categorized as a mental illness or a handicap just, accept people being different!


[28-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Audrey#7852
Black, brown, white, gay, trans, nonbi, ace, aspergers, autistic, disabled, gifted, fat, thin..


[28-Aug-20 12:43 PM] Audrey#7852
We don't choose how we're born.


[28-Aug-20 12:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
some people choose their sexuality


[28-Aug-20 12:44 PM] Audrey#7852
If you have a kid in SEGPA (special needs) and think he's got no perspective in life, never give up because we are different and being different is what makes a society stronger, and more adapted.


[28-Aug-20 12:45 PM] byte[]#2610
some people choose to _label_ their sexuality in a particular manner, they don't magically change their preferences

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[28-Aug-20 12:46 PM] byte[]#2610
and to be clear, it can change over time (people can get gayer/straighter or express more/less sexual attraction) but the specific attractions are not a choice on behalf of the individual

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[28-Aug-20 12:47 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, better answer. No one choose their sexuality, or gender or identity. It's part of ourselves, and the rest is all experience


[28-Aug-20 12:48 PM] Audrey#7852
How many people always been raised as men, playing videogames and then one day "Have I been lying to myself trying to conform to my identity given by my education and parents?" "Wow, I love pink toys!"


[28-Aug-20 12:49 PM] Audrey#7852
"Hey I'm not alone and that might be the reason why I'm so depressed and can't function normally"


[28-Aug-20 12:49 PM] byte[]#2610
well, nobody, because cultural forces actually prevent thoughts like those


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Audrey#7852
That's what should be broken, these cultural standards.


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Thats how nature works,you either born male or female just for one thing-make more humans


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Audrey#7852
I think bronies were not the first to defiantly oppose gender norms but we need to cut them


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Audrey 
My point was that if there are problems in chain of command, from PM all way down to first line, things tend to get lost in personal interests rather than communication.

For example, PM instead of getting qualified person in the area, assigns their friends and relatives, who know squat and are interested in stealing state funds and it goes all the way to first line managers. In turn, workers and even managers, are disrespecting their work due to above. 

As result, we get non functional body. This is also not only for state owned companies. Private companies are also affected indirectly.


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] Audrey#7852
Trixie psychology is not nature


[28-Aug-20 12:50 PM] byte[]#2610
reducing humans to the evolutionary purpose of reproduce and die is boring and deprives us of a meaningful life


[28-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Call to nature or basic science is irrelevant here


[28-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There is no life meaning.

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[28-Aug-20 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
if you want to do that, be my guest, but if that's your claim, it would be hypocritical of you to do anything except eat, sleep, fuck, and die


[28-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes or die of depression


[28-Aug-20 12:51 PM] byte[]#2610
humans are far more than the evolutionary niche they fit into


[28-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm nonbi, I got told I'm pretty masculine or even called a dyke often


[28-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Audrey#7852
and I'm confortable that way, I don't describe fully as a woman


[28-Aug-20 12:52 PM] byte[]#2610
I consider myself enby but haven't bothered to change my gender on any official documentation because I know it would be a hassle and I don't have high hopes for the process

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[28-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Audrey#7852
So let me be what I feel comfortable with, and same for everybody!

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[28-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] that is what life of people in poverty, because they are busy surviving.


[28-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Audrey#7852
Right wingers are surprisingly defending science adamantly when it comes to biology and gender.


[28-Aug-20 12:54 PM] byte[]#2610
even humans living in poverty have more meaningful lives than the evolutionary bare minimum


[28-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Opponent#3498
only so long as they believe same thing you do, say same thing you do, act same way you do.


[28-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Audrey#7852
As someone who live in poverty I concur


[28-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Opponent#3498
but, yeah. Otherwise, pure freedom of choice


[28-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Audrey#7852
we have goals and aspire to resist and pierce instead of drowning in material goods or achievements that destroys more than creates


[28-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Opponent#3498
isolate and control. Exclude and remove :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, we've heard all about that yesterday.


[28-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Audrey#7852
(Why are you like this)


[28-Aug-20 12:57 PM] byte[]#2610
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[28-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey what if my goals is live forever,how do i achieve that


[28-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Audrey  I am talking about people who are exhausted and do not want anything anymore.


[28-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Me too, we can't have a serious conversation w/o being always attacked


[28-Aug-20 12:59 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie earn millions to afford "immortality" that estimated to be complete by 2035.


[28-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u really believe humans would estimate immortality by 2035?


[28-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we cant cure a cold and u talking about immortality


[28-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
fuckin coronavirus almost took down world economy


[28-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Audrey#7852
IT SHOULD HAVE


[28-Aug-20 01:01 PM] byte[]#2610
we never needed to cure a cold, just prevent our immune systems from giving up the ghost in old age

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[28-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Our economy for low class have been stagnating to zero so what difference it makes


[28-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
people still does not know how our brain works


[28-Aug-20 01:01 PM] byte[]#2610
in any case, I plan on completing my life's work and then don't fucking care what happens to me, I'm likely not going to be leading a super long life due to history of health conditions and not taking adequate care of myself


[28-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
whats your life's work moose


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Economy crisis only means millionaires and rich and even small businesses will have to spend less


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] byte[]#2610
philomena


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats a decent project but idk if its a life work


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie if you can spare a coin, you can extend life


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] byte[]#2610
I've been alive 20 years


[28-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im sure you can make something greater


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes Moosebyug is the programmer of the site!


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ive been alive 25 years against all that dumb shit i did as kid


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] byte[]#2610
I've spent 6 of those working on booru-on-rails and then philomena (conceptual successor)


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u still got at least 20 years ahead of you


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Audrey#7852
You're young, that's already an impressive career


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] byte[]#2610
that's 1/3 of my life


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yup prob same for me but still


[28-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Audrey#7852
You should apply for Google or Apple or Microsoft


[28-Aug-20 01:04 PM] byte[]#2610
if I make it to 30, I will have spent more than half my life working on it


[28-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Audrey#7852
😮


[28-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
bill gates spend how long of his life working on windows?


[28-Aug-20 01:04 PM] byte[]#2610
basically none of it


[28-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
:sadface: are u sure?


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] byte[]#2610
he's an investor and a former board member, not really involved with the company after the formative years


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Audrey#7852
That's really your baby, Moosebug! You might be proud of it! I understand how you must feel like seeing nazis using your site


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] byte[]#2610
wtf is this line of inquiry lmao


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Gates purchased it.


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Bill Gates did a lof ot other things


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what about dude that made linux idk who he is but i heard he's recently made a patch or something


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] byte[]#2610
linux is linus torvalds's baby


[28-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Just copied Apple 😄


[28-Aug-20 01:06 PM] byte[]#2610
and just like linus, I give away all the work I do for free

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[28-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Audrey#7852
I mean as an expression, when someone have a long time project and spend all their efforts, it's a saying also weird "That's your baby" not in the sense of a human child


[28-Aug-20 01:07 PM] byte[]#2610
it's a well recognized idiom (at least in the US)


[28-Aug-20 01:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
just like Elon Musk invented and did fucking nothing, he just got his apartheid emerald mine bux


[28-Aug-20 01:08 PM] Audrey#7852
That's very kind, you're working hard, you could be millionaire making apps but you decided to not fall for capitalist utopia 🙂


[28-Aug-20 01:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and dude even if u did not spend any time on philomena project what would you gonna do in spare time


[28-Aug-20 01:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
the bill gates myth exists to keep poor people hopeful

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[28-Aug-20 01:09 PM] byte[]#2610
play the piano probably?


[28-Aug-20 01:09 PM] byte[]#2610
idk I have a lot of skills that I have never spent much time honing because I spend most of my time idle

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[28-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
same


[28-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm just learning more about this community everyday and I'd love to recount this or write about it, glad we have people like you


[28-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
except i dont have lots of skills


[28-Aug-20 01:10 PM] byte[]#2610
from what I wrote some time ago
>art, electrical engineering, chemistry, cooking, construction, medicine, music, mathematics, plumbing, and software engineering


[28-Aug-20 01:11 PM] byte[]#2610
all varying degrees of depth


[28-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Wow.


[28-Aug-20 01:12 PM] byte[]#2610
my parents were really super invested in trying to get me to "experience everything" and be "well rounded"


[28-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Audrey#7852
I see, that's really a lot of luck to have parents who are supportive and present


[28-Aug-20 01:12 PM] byte[]#2610
I hated it


[28-Aug-20 01:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
sometimes there's too present lol


[28-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Oh, maybe they were pushing you too much... That's also what I feared.


[28-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@byte[] has it something to do with autism?


[28-Aug-20 01:14 PM] byte[]#2610
they've backed off now that I'm an adult but they still invade my privacy a lot and act disappointed that I didn't try to keep finding new things


[28-Aug-20 01:14 PM] byte[]#2610
@Эᴚ|∫ maybe, but predominantly it's just sky high expectations


[28-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Okay so they rather want to shape you as they want instead


[28-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Audrey#7852
That's indeed pretty toxic, reminds me of the parents who want to raise perfect kids, not want them with a phone, private school, language, little robots in a sense


[28-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I read up somewhere that psychologists recommend parents who have kid with autism to expose kid to as much skills as possible. @byte[]


[28-Aug-20 01:16 PM] byte[]#2610
yeah but I was never formally diagnosed until I was 12


[28-Aug-20 01:16 PM] byte[]#2610
and the things they had me doing started much earlier


[28-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Audrey#7852
Which kind of social context are you from? Poor? Average? Worker or higher?


[28-Aug-20 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
bourgeoisie lol


[28-Aug-20 01:17 PM] byte[]#2610
I reject my class status and live below my means


[28-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Audrey#7852
I see... Welp that's why, sadly they might hate that you want to be different and be your own


[28-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, following your own path, that's a bit the same for me, I left home when I was 21 after going to the fac (highschool) and lived on my own for years


[28-Aug-20 01:19 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I can relate to parents like that


[28-Aug-20 01:19 PM] Audrey#7852
They hate me and everything I spend time and effort working with, wether it was in cultural associations or even in education


[28-Aug-20 01:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
ahaha I was top of the class and then burnt out hard in high school

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[28-Aug-20 01:21 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
But I am actually grateful to my parents.


[28-Aug-20 01:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
got reminded of my 'potential' thereafter


[28-Aug-20 01:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Living in poverty is hard, but I just choose not to participate in a broken society that values profit, individualism and self destruction


[28-Aug-20 01:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
and parents asking me how they fucked up, like no, I was miserable and bullied a lot being a short as shit kid lol

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[28-Aug-20 01:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
I've always been a short and slight built person lol, and being in a poor public school didn't help


[28-Aug-20 01:23 PM] byte[]#2610
I graduated valedictorian from HS and I'm on track to graduating _cum laude_ from uni as well but idfc and I'm getting real tired of this shit


[28-Aug-20 01:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
soo I flunked that education completely after doing amazingly in primary school


[28-Aug-20 01:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
always was especially good at reading, reading comprehension, still am in theory lol


[28-Aug-20 01:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
but yeah, I'd say poverty had a large role in the culture of the school I went to


[28-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I have not bothered with effort since high school.


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wanted to die soo, I'd just do the assigned work, then sleep, read, or listen to music


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Same, I'm some kind of college dropout, it was boring and wanted to teach not in universities or some bourgeos catholic college but actually help people


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
teachers let me since I wasn't disruptive and everyone else was lol


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
I was simply quiet and wanted to die


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] Audrey#7852
It's normal to be disruptive, it's not normal to be a zombie stocking data and not thinking


[28-Aug-20 01:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm 24 now


[28-Aug-20 01:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, it's encouraged to be a zombie, it's how you get a job and buy a house.


[28-Aug-20 01:26 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes and that's awful.


[28-Aug-20 01:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
work your slave job, get your slave pay, get your slave house and be a slave to the nuclear family


[28-Aug-20 01:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That is what school taught me, be a good at memorizing. @Audrey

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[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
however critical thinking I'd argue is the most important and overlooked topic in schools lol


[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] Audrey#7852
I think being in edu is what will help a lot of people like me to change things from inside


[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] byte[]#2610
I have to be good at memorizing _and_ good at building turing machines :notbestpony:


[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
at least people are getting enjoyment from your project without being slaves to cash gods


[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Edu must not be programming class, but teaching kids and teenagers to find themselves


[28-Aug-20 01:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
due to glorious open sourcing, that's amazing and respectable as shit.


[28-Aug-20 01:28 PM] Audrey#7852
Then you need to know anyhting, grab your smartphone you have all the knowledge you need at your fingertips!


[28-Aug-20 01:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@dissociativity you are on destination to "fuck my life".


[28-Aug-20 01:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
my education was like, flip phones for most of it, smartphones only came out very late into it


[28-Aug-20 01:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
we did not have zoomerism on our side, generation fucked, taught cursive, 'you won't have a calculator with you everywhere' lmao


[28-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@dissociativity @Audrey  do u have a job?


[28-Aug-20 01:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
I did.


[28-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Audrey#7852
ngl, everyone even in their job use internet when they don't know. During tests, I don't confiscate phones


[28-Aug-20 01:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how do u live without money income? @dissociativity


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] byte[]#2610
by the end of my time at school they will have sucked $80k from my parents savings for it for a piece of paper that says "you can now get a job in tech"


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
by living in a first world country (not america)


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I'm CPE in a college/lycée in Seine Saint Denis, and counselor for teenagers. Really into relational and education


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so you getting welfare money?


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
living in a land that isn't 'fuck you I got mine' is truly a blessing


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, that helps.


[28-Aug-20 01:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
obviously, there's no work and everything is locked down, most people are here.


[28-Aug-20 01:31 PM] byte[]#2610
and that's _after_ the $40k scholarship they gave me


[28-Aug-20 01:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
welfare exists so we don't riot of course.


[28-Aug-20 01:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
if america had remotely good social safety nets in place it wouldn't be nearly as violent in general


[28-Aug-20 01:31 PM] byte[]#2610
I get $300 a month on patreon for what I do, I would need to earn almost 10x as much as that to actually pay off school as I went


[28-Aug-20 01:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
Austerity in the UK resulted in massive violence.


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Audrey#7852
welfare exist because people need to basically pay themselves


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
people need shelter and to eat, and landlords steal half your welfare anyway by being blood sucking parasites


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you think I keep the welfare money? No it goes in food, in gas, in insurance and most of all in my landlord


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
without landlords we'd have a huge economic boom


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
And now I can't even leave because the idiot in charge fucked up the country's pandemic response and triggered a retaliatory travel ban across the rest of the world


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Audrey#7852
and other bills. Internet, TV, phone, services.


[28-Aug-20 01:32 PM] byte[]#2610
My passport is useless


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
far more spending money for everyone, far more spent, the economy runs on spent money, not slaves to someone else's mortgage


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey its basically does not exist in Russia


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
it did before the soviet union collapsed and life expectancy dropped by like a decade+ and people starved


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
and america sold your entire nation on the free market.


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Landlords, and other bills that should be just managed by the government like internet and telecom


[28-Aug-20 01:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude in soviet union everyone was forced to work


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
so now you have no publicly owned assets and are ruled by corporate overlords more than america.


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Back in the 80s Miterrrand was president and there was one phone company.


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
because there was actually work for one.


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes a hundredsof factories that made shit noone needed


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
for two you could retire at 60 for men and 55 for women


[28-Aug-20 01:34 PM] Audrey#7852
State was ensuring it was working and we even had the pre-internet with the Minitel, a little mac-like computer connected to a huge network


[28-Aug-20 01:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
and would get a decent pension, good luck retiring at 70 now.


[28-Aug-20 01:35 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
retire at 60 is true decent pension is not


[28-Aug-20 01:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
the collapse destroyed russia from the inside out is the reality even if the system had problems, people wanted to have free-er socialism, not be cucked by the free market.


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] Audrey#7852
Free market is horrible and is the reason we have many bills.


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
people wanted to fuckin eat,wear good clothes and drive a cars


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
I've read on this and russia was sold to the highest bidder, that's the issue, there was no democratic process, the citizens did not get what they want, the person that ushered in capitalism rolled in tanks and sold russia to the US


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
not your shitty socialism or communism


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
bro, after the USSR collapsed people starved and ate 40% less at best.


[28-Aug-20 01:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
people ate well according to the CIA themselves.


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
the CIA says the soviet diet was more nutritious than the average american one lol


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
like the USSR had many problems, but the current state of russia is objectively worse.


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I talked about that with a history professor, the collapse of the USSR was dramatic.


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Russia and the former union republics did end up significantly worse after 1991, but that doesn’t mean what was there before was excellent


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude all these problems started in 80's when oil prices goes down


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not defending the USSR, I'm attacking modern russia is the thing here, this is my angle.
The Shock Doctrine on the russian economy lead to a dramatic drop in life expectancy.


[28-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Audrey#7852
At first everyone was all like "Cool! We have nike and McDonalds and Coca cola"


[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
>it was all oil
AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wait, sorry, let me breathe
AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] Audrey#7852
But no, capitalists won. But won what?


[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not all oil but oil started everything


[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Snickers or Mars bar for Christmas.


[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
modern russia is basically just chile's neoliberalism put to the test in an empire.

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[28-Aug-20 01:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
There were precedents in regards to the local national bourgeoisies, disguised as bureaucrats


[28-Aug-20 01:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Many Soviet bureaucrats stashed money in Switzerland and western countries, for example


[28-Aug-20 01:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
said people loved selling public assets to the free market


[28-Aug-20 01:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Taken back after 1991


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
Russia was wringed like a sponge for all of the capital it had.


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Audrey#7852
That was just a giant hold-up organized by the US and Thatcher to force it to collapse


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“Socialism in one country” don’t work if the rest of the world forces you into dealing with them on capitalist terms


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's historical revisionism and delusion to say the USSR was worse than the russian federation before the collapse process began.


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
As far I remember, Soviet ruble became metal scrap and toilet paper.


[28-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Audrey#7852
I think it could have been saved if it lasted ten more years and embrace all the technological advancements in the 90s til 2000s


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Of course, it was comparatively better on average


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
here's the thing, east germans wanted socialism, more democratic socialism.


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
russians wanted more democratic socialism too, it would've withered into scandinavian models


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wdym by “east germans”


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] Audrey#7852
West Germany also wanted socialism, being puppets of American culture and capitalism


[28-Aug-20 01:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
they would've been a well off Scandinavian model country, that was literally the plan.


[28-Aug-20 01:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
hardly socialism, but more or less stripping the vestiges of unnecessary authoritarianism


[28-Aug-20 01:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
East Germany was an arguably illegitimate regime. It was born out of the Soviet occupation zone


[28-Aug-20 01:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
the USSR was going to 'collapse' on it's own terms.
As was East Germany.


[28-Aug-20 01:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
it was already moving towards succdem shit


[28-Aug-20 01:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Germans remains really social by heart and that's what I appreciate in them. They really have learned a lesson from their History we didn't.


[28-Aug-20 01:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
not 100% sure about the specifics of east germany there mind you, but I've read enough that people liked a lot of the 'socialist' policy and the unification left pretty much all women unemployed for one


[28-Aug-20 01:43 PM] Audrey#7852
When Angela Merkel warns France about the dangers of populism and far right politics (Marine Le Pen) you know things are bad.


[28-Aug-20 01:43 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IMO the world would arguably be a better place if the GDR didn’t exist and Cold War Germany was unified under a neutral regime with less stigma put upon communists and communist organizations, but that we can’t tell for sure

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[28-Aug-20 01:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
but the USSR was on a trajectory towards social democracy before being utterly pillaged by capitalists.


[28-Aug-20 01:44 PM] Audrey#7852
I think the world needs both. We need to be able to consume, live in comfort, and have social rights and less capitalism.


[28-Aug-20 01:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
the USSR was going to 'collapse' already on it's own terms, this is my argument, not that it was good, but it was progressing towards being more or less a normal Scandinavian country in pretty much every way.


[28-Aug-20 01:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
therefore if you defend russia as it stands ,you're defending capitalist looting


[28-Aug-20 01:45 PM] Audrey#7852
Maybe with robotics and AI will make current economy different


[28-Aug-20 01:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
you're defending sending in the tanks to stop civilians who didn't want this to happen.


[28-Aug-20 01:45 PM] Audrey#7852
Modern Russia under Putin is horrible.


[28-Aug-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
russia kept the very same authoritarianism, but without the social welfare programs, public assets and effectively complete employment


[28-Aug-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
neoliberals like to pretend it's more 'democratic' now


[28-Aug-20 01:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
but that's only because it was eaten alive by corporations.


[28-Aug-20 01:46 PM] Audrey#7852
Police brutality, militaristic interest, and yes, very authoritarian. And they have an influence on all right wing parties in Europe
Especially proven with the Brexit


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
putin*


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
pootine


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Audrey#7852
Who funds the far right parties? Russia.


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
poo poo pee pee


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
during Yeltsin term russia was liberal af,noone gave a crap about anything


[28-Aug-20 01:47 PM] Audrey#7852
Also the Russian Collusion is still a huge issue in America. Yeah I hate Putin


[28-Aug-20 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
the intent in theory at that point was to transform russia into something like denmark, norway, ect


[28-Aug-20 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
which would've been far better than what actually happened.
Russia was liberalizing on it's own.


[28-Aug-20 01:48 PM] Audrey#7852
I voted Macron pinching my nose to prevent LePen from reaching power but he's standing against Russian influence, and defends EU. If I had to I will vote again for him.


[28-Aug-20 01:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
neoliberals fucked your country up hard.

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[28-Aug-20 01:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
if they left it the fuck alone, things would've been far less disasterous globally, I can't know it for sure, but I feel there'd be far less military tensions.


[28-Aug-20 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
as for dissolving other soviet vassal states, I'm not sure, but what I've seen leads me to believe they would have followed russia's example


[28-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Audrey#7852
Perhaps a war will happen and the outcome will emerge more socialism and the end of liberal-capitalism :communism:


[28-Aug-20 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
look, capitalism is fundamentally fucked right now after 2008, then this as a double whammy, something will happen, but we can't know what.


[28-Aug-20 01:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
you have two generations doomer as shit poorer than any of their parents with zero hope


[28-Aug-20 01:51 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes that was the last crisis, proven the system can no longer work.


[28-Aug-20 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
what could possibly go wrong?
2008 already solidified the doomerism and ruined everything.

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[28-Aug-20 01:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can be optimistic, buut, you can't know socialism will come from it, fascism is capitalism in decay after all.


[28-Aug-20 01:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is it capitalism fault?maybe its all about greedy politicans who let corporations make a billions for a small cut?


[28-Aug-20 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's inherent to capitalism, there is no capitalism where that does not happen.


[28-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
iirc amazon does not pay taxes.at all


[28-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Even the media and everyone understood this. More and more artists and creatives, film makers are denouncing this.


[28-Aug-20 01:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism encourages and bolsters monopolies by nature, laws to prevent this are bandaid fixes.


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
but again, don't be spouting on about a revolution, we don't know what the fuck is going to happen, but it certainly will be nasty


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
communism works same way


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
marxist-leninism/stalinism perhaps lol


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
they got state monopoly for every aspect of your life


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
aint no spanish civil war anarchists be doing that in the past


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
like  you cant own a property or buisness


[28-Aug-20 01:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
you can own your house, that's personal property.


[28-Aug-20 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
a business is run and owned by people who work there.


[28-Aug-20 01:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats does not sound like a USSR communism


[28-Aug-20 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
private property, owning factories n shit, that's capitalism
communism allows for your personal property, your home, your nintendo switch.

No, that's marx's communism, which is what we want and follow.


[28-Aug-20 01:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
we know of the past and learn from it


[28-Aug-20 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's the whole point of the past existing after all.
heyyy maybe consolidating state power into the hands of the few and the state as an entity was a bad idea


[28-Aug-20 01:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
perhaps confederations based on municipalities, local councils could matter more this time


[28-Aug-20 01:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
there are endless possibilities, but those who seek to emulate the USSR's model are cringe, they're tankies, and we reject them.


[28-Aug-20 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
as fun as it is to post bait and be strawmanned as literally stalin, and have dumb people go 'but muh communism is literally one hegemonic same thing and not hundreds of different strains of leftist thought' as strawmans


[28-Aug-20 01:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
we learn and move on and try new things, idk how people don't see this.


[28-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
have any country tried that marx communism you talking about?


[28-Aug-20 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
capitalism evolves and changes in it's own ways as technology and the planet itself changes and will keep doing so


[28-Aug-20 01:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
neoliberalism, the form we live in today is very new, what makes you think we can't start anew differently in the 21st century?


[28-Aug-20 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
I mean, the Kurds are trying that in syria sorta area, Rojava.


[28-Aug-20 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
not exactly a lovely place to be trying it, but hey, they're brave.


[28-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie that requires an industrialised (post-industrialied probably) country before you even start, and those people generally are content enough not to rock the boat.


[28-Aug-20 01:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
turkey wants to kill them, syria wants to kill them, isis wants to kill them ,what could possibly go wrong?


[28-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Opponent#3498
at least, if you stick to the _original_ original vision.


[28-Aug-20 02:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, marx literally said, britain, america, germany, ect


[28-Aug-20 02:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
countries that had already industrialized, communism hasn't been tried in anything but feudal shitholes.


[28-Aug-20 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
you could argue it 'succeeded' in the sense it turned a monarchic feudal nation that didn't even have tractors for farms into an industrialized superpower of course.
but we don't really consider that success nor communism.


[28-Aug-20 02:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
you could also call china a 'success' by the same metric I suppose


[28-Aug-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
so if america falls as a result of BLM turning into a communist revolution and then things happen, we can discuss communism as marx talked then I suppose


[28-Aug-20 02:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
otherwise, idk man


[28-Aug-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
obviously vast sleepy oversimplification of what would actually be required


[28-Aug-20 02:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism ain’t a state of affairs to which reality will have to adapt itself, it’s a movement, remember


[28-Aug-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
a movement towards a stateless, classless, moneyless society, that isn't one nation, it's an internationale


[28-Aug-20 02:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
the USSR ditched communism, as did china by this metric.


[28-Aug-20 02:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Workers helping each other as a class may as well be just as valid an example of communism


[28-Aug-20 02:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
no you got it all wrong, communism is things I don't like, especially when it's authoritarian things I don't like, except when police do it, then it's based


[28-Aug-20 02:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what?


[28-Aug-20 02:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Communism is not authoritarianism.


[28-Aug-20 02:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm meming it['s okay


[28-Aug-20 02:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
but people who call 'big government' communism but when 'big government' sends cops to attack peaceful protestors or some shit it's 'based' is what it's about, common demographic


[28-Aug-20 02:07 PM] dissociativity#8391
right-libertarians, love cops 'ate government 'ate taxes, 'ate communists, just don't like em


[28-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Audrey#7852
It's got authority because it changes the rules and check everyone plays by them for the best of the whole population.


[28-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Opponent#3498
so it's authoritarian but not :ponythinking:


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
anything that changes society is authoritarian by definition


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
there is nothing more authoritarian than a revolution, or a huge wildcat strike.


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Usually that societal change produces 'mountains of skulls and rivers of blood', as history has shown.


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
the industrial revolution was a mistake smh


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Opponent#3498
and the change turns out to be in the wrong direction anyway.


[28-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Audrey#7852
Every normal society need rules and some authority, but when it's businesses birng the authority it's wrong. Pay for this, pay for that,


[28-Aug-20 02:09 PM] Audrey#7852
work for me, consume, stay poor, look at how rich I am


[28-Aug-20 02:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Do this or get shot, much simpler.


[28-Aug-20 02:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, any industrial revolution seems to have done this, not just 'communist' ones


[28-Aug-20 02:09 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes it was the first step since with technology mankind can change


[28-Aug-20 02:10 PM] Audrey#7852
Machines are more and more replacing humans, what are we going to do? Keep with this economy?


[28-Aug-20 02:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
however, instead of industrial revolutions to previously feudal countries, a revolution in it's own right being blamed, it's the elusive 'communism'


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
nah. Just kill the wrongthinkers and establish paradise on Earth.


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey we're gonna make more machines so people would never have to work again


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
and we will of course have another revolution around machines replacing people in a more advanced manner no doubt, killing people


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Opponent#3498
if I was living in US I'd say something edgy like 'see you in the crosshair' but I'm not so :shrugpony:


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Big Data? Chain manufacturing cars? Drones? automatized postage?


[28-Aug-20 02:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
@Smug Trixie we already did that a lot after winning the 40 hour work week, so far people still work 40 hours or more and are still poor even with more efficiency


[28-Aug-20 02:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
they're just more efficient (for the CEOs, shareholders, profits) per hour, not less work.


[28-Aug-20 02:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
feudal peasants worked less overall substantially.


[28-Aug-20 02:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Stonetoss Trixie jobs will have to be obsolete so humanity will have plenty of time and means to have fun and not even have to pay for anything


[28-Aug-20 02:12 PM] dissociativity#8391
the invention of the lightbulb only served to oppress workers and make people work later and longer.


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Replace all nuclear powerplant with solar and wind turbines you have free energy!


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
nuclear is good tho


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Audrey#7852
(oops no.)


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
only gotta have space and terrible pollution to produce those solar panels, and even more fuckload of space for wind.


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
I say both is a more (within a reasonable timeframe) clean energy


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Opponent#3498
so you're misinformed on WW2, on nuclear... I wonder what else our dear future professor will educate us on.


[28-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
at the time we have to save the planet, both seems like the most viable solution


[28-Aug-20 02:14 PM] Audrey#7852
Nuclear ideally is good but poorly managed is bad, and leads to contamination, lots of sites in France are contaminated by waste.


[28-Aug-20 02:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends on how deindustrialization will be carried out under communism, though it will have to be undertaken eventually


[28-Aug-20 02:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
however, the overconsumption caused by capitalism will only end with capitalism, it's a bandaid fix


[28-Aug-20 02:14 PM] byte[]#2610
solar PV, hydro etc. are ideal, but nuclear is _actually viable right now_ for killing oil dependence


[28-Aug-20 02:14 PM] Audrey#7852
Germany ditched nuclear for renewable energy. Nuclear energy was purely a capitalist thing, we produce tons of power for cheap and give everyone else CANCER!


[28-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[28-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Audrey#7852
It's just terribly managed here


[28-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I don't even have to say anything, you're hitting yourself right now.


[28-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Powerplants are obsolete and need to close, there's many people ringing the alerts about it

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[28-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
modern nuclear reactors are very safe so long as they're not built in disaster prone areas (like a lot of America for example or the fault lines in japan)


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
in Australia, assuming bush fires don't cause terrifying temperatures, nuclear is completely safe, but we won't due it due to the legacy of hippies


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I agree, but nuclear reactors here have plenty of issues, leakings, and date back from the 1970s.


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Opponent#3498
```many people ringing the alerts about it```
those twitter concern groups, whos opinions is so important to the world :wheeze:


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
we don't have earthquakes here, nor hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunami


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, there’s also a significant responsibility for maintenance which might be sabotaged by corporate interests in competition with nuclear energy


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
the issue with nuclear energy isn't nuclear energy, yes, it's capitalists cutting corners


[28-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
IFAK, there was research on pebble nuclear reactor that does not need coolants and can be left idling.


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
chernobyl was literally cut corners too lol, and that was old as shit far worse tech.


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] byte[]#2610
the previous cheapest design is LWR which is prone to meltdown, and PWR before that which is super prone to meltdown


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Audrey#7852
The vallée of Rhône has nuclear powerplants and has several seismic areas, especially dams that are a threat.


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Opponent#3498
and then it only really failed on a stress test.


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] byte[]#2610
but modern designs cannot even melt down because they have built in negative feedback loops that arrest thermal runaway


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Opponent#3498
a pretty important lesson on testing critical infrastructure... I hope people _fucking learned_.


[28-Aug-20 02:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, nuclear can save the planet if managed responsibly on stable land without seismic activity.


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
sink hole land america is not one of said places ofc.


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes in this condition I agree. We don't always have these conditions reunited here either


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
I love how sink holes, are just, a thing there, like a bus can just suddenly sink into the earth.


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] Audrey#7852
sink holes?


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] byte[]#2610
you don't even need that, MSRs (even ones using conventional fuel) are safer than people realize


[28-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
america is wild even without people doing it.


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] byte[]#2610
you can bomb an MSR and have no problems


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Wow I see just Googled


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
you also don't have the space for wind, any more locations for hydro and solar still requires pollution-heavy materials to produce Audrey.


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
we don't as far as I'm aware


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
time comes, you'll 'relocate' people to gulags to build more eco-free wind turbines :twismug:  It's fine though, the needs of many and all that.


[28-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
have enough material on this earth to do solar at least, indefinitely


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
we are running out of the necessary materials for batteries.


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why relocate people to gulags


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
you can reprocess them. But that comes later.


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
they can simply live in a lighthouse like dwelling at the base of a wind turbine


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] byte[]#2610
the big problem with nuclear is "what do you do with the waste"


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it's bad optics to go straight for final solution. Even germans didn't.


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
australia has big empty uninhabitable desert


[28-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
which global warming is making worse.


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Gulags were born out of an economic concern by the Soviet Union to industrialize


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
you gotta make it seem like you struggled with the nessesary decision but was forced to make the ultimate sacrifice :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] byte[]#2610
breeder reactors aren't that viable because they squander most of their energy breeding fissile isotopes


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
wtf is this channel


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
noone is talking about gulags opponent please shut up


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Opponent#3498
@dissociativity Audrey did yesterday.


[28-Aug-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
I was busy sleeping and don't care lol


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
...fair.


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
we're all learning here


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Did what? Debunking the gulag myth?

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[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
:grate:


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
aight
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 you have fun with this one im out


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What myth


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Someone was comparing both nazi and communist regimes, no, gulags were NOT extermination camps


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, sorry Dis. Perhaps I went overboard.


[28-Aug-20 02:22 PM] byte[]#2610
ayy lmao


[28-Aug-20 02:23 PM] Audrey#7852
There's not even a possible comparison


[28-Aug-20 02:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, they were not extermination camps most of the time, they were mostly slave labor camps. Still very condemnable though


[28-Aug-20 02:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
with that I poast meme that equatable to 21st century rn

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[28-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, gulags were the answer to 'we have all those people locked up we didn't bother shooting yet, we need to put them to good use'.


[28-Aug-20 02:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
modern nazis, modern communists (ignoring cringe tankie weirdos who barely exist)


[28-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
that's a dumb statement (opponent)

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[28-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
kill wrongthink ------ kill minority.


[28-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much the same to me. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, and there's nothing more distinct to the human than the ancestry.


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
if your life improves because you're not a slave plantation owner you probably don't reee at the state


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
t. Cuba


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not comparable at all because reactionaries can and will repress the working class if it rises up


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm a dumb guy, what can I say.


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, one had in the politics to exterminate people, with a genocidal program, did exterminate six million and 20 more million civilians and creating the worst war ever in History


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I love it how when people talk about communism nobody seems to talk about post-50s era


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Audrey#7852
the other one is communism, being mostly victims of nazism.


[28-Aug-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
everyone goes straight for cultural revolution and holodomor


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
ignore the looting and pillaging of russia into neoliberalism, instantly starving and dropping life expectancy substantially, ect, ect


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Opponent#3498
post-50ies was chill. People realised some things. The issues were primarily economic ones, society was fine-ish.


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Audrey#7852
French are very anti-communist, anti-socialists too, that might be why our flag is separated beween red and blue


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
the USSR was still imperialist cringe and sent tanks in


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Opponent#3498
what's there to talk about? The goal of discussing it is to prevent 30 years of non-stop murder before that.


[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
[PTSD FROM PARIS COMMUNE INTENSIFIES]

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[28-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
murder that capitalists weren't also doing?


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Opponent#3498
exactly as capitalists were doing.


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
that was kinda the norm bro, churchill deliberately genocided millions yes and I'd argue he's probably british hitler


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean that's kind of the point. Different ideas leading to the same outcome.


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Gulags after 50s were not even as much of a thing


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Holodomor is too often assimilated to murders by USSR but that's not even true

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[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair, blame lysenko


[28-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes they were essentially prisons and not everyone in prisons were generally "victims of the regime" have the right even thought of that?


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
there are a lot of factors, like westoid capitalists not accepting all of that sweet sext tsar gold


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
stalin being cringe and believing mr 'fertilizer is bourgeoisie propganda' lysenko


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Opponent#3498
what exactly about Holodomor's not true Audrey? :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Technically there was an economic background to the holodomor as peasants were over-demanded for food due to the general rapid industrialization plan, but Stalin and his regime did fuck things up significantly by politicizing it


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
so USSR had to sell grain to get industrial machinery


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Audrey#7852
that maybe, these people in prison or kulaks are there for a good reason? (TBH it was work by reinsertion. America also have prisons with forced work)

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[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
For what it's worth I hate USSR and I think we live in a much better society nowadays


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
they had plenty of tsar gold to sell to the west but it was politically incorrect to help a starving nation


[28-Aug-20 02:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Audrey, stop doing apologia for it


[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
but stalin did everything wrong yes, do not apologize, simply analyse hey things were terrible and everyone was terrible


[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Look at Soviet history from a more dry perspective


[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
westoid capitalists were terrible in not accepting  gold for machinery


[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm n;ot doing any apology, just stating unknown historical facts, I've read a lot about it and some people should learn what really one regime was not another

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[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
stalin was a huge paranoid brainlet who actually believed in mr 'fertilizer on my crops is bourgeois decadence' lysenko


[28-Aug-20 02:29 PM] byte[]#2610
@Luna von Rainy' lives in a society

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[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
read about lysenko m8, shit's wild


[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
absolute pseud that stalin was like, yup, this man should manage agriculture


[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@byte[] fok u


[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I just like modern time much more than pre-2000s


[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] byte[]#2610
so here's your problem
you're a gamer


[28-Aug-20 02:30 PM] Audrey#7852
Even if I agree USSR was authoritarian and I don't like how it turned but does not means socialism or communism, as an idea, are bad or wrong, or will lead to authoritarianism

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[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea of eliminating wrongthinkers will.


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@byte[] fak u ur gae


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's okay to admit the USSR was a fuckup and improved somewhat later down the line but not apologize for before the 50s and the shitty things it did after the 50s too


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
the core idea of all you say or do. LOCK THEM UP!


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Ungoliant#7236
It's fine, soon the French will take over the world, and we will be at peace


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
I have learned that, uhhhh, modern russia is measurably worse than what the USSR was actually aiming to reform into (fuckin norway or some shit)


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Audrey#7852
Why do Opponent give me a stapler emoji everytime?


[28-Aug-20 02:31 PM] Opponent#3498
...I couldve sworn I heard that somewhere not too long ago...


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
that's luna laughing at you


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
idk if it looks like an image for ants on ur screen


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He’s arguing in bad faith


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Audrey#7852
Clearly yes


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ignore him, his input might as well be useless


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[28-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway Audrey, bby, I made dumb apologetica and now I'm in /mlp/ screencaps for posts I made like 2 years ago


[28-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Ungoliant#7236
When in doubt and out of arguments, use emojis

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[28-Aug-20 02:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's not a good look., even ironically, even as a joke


[28-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Audrey#7852
OK I don't notice


[28-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
I really don't have much to say. 'Here comes the banhammer' could be too cliche @Ungoliant


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Fuck what /mlp/ thinks. Bet Opponent will take more screen captures for them, but I won't let them bully me again


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
what's there to discuss? A Twitter SJW and a local extremist found each other and now can slam me in unison.


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Ungoliant#7236
It's fine, janitors are asleep


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
not new, not unexpected. It's what Audrey came here for.


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
No we don't use banhammers anymore


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
We use banguillotine

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[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Opponent you’re putting way too much importance on this ngl


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If you think this is inconsequential, just leave man


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
this could happen to you

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[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Ungoliant#7236
banguillotine sounds like cultural appropriaton from the french. how dare you.


[28-Aug-20 02:34 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 well someone put enough importance on 20 pics of Aryanne to come and demand Derpi bow down.


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
it however, for me, goes straight to me ego


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not letting that go. Ever.


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I saw that one, well, I don't care that's blackmail, disociativity


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Now that is cringe


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
very cringe


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Someone has surprising amount of free time to put so much effort into compilations of someone's messages


[28-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Opponent#3498
just because they now come all smiles and upvotes, doesn't change much. It's still the enemy.


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
yeah, I'm well loved

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[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
@Opponent

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[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wonder when horse famous will follow me


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 absolutely true. They shouldve walked away instead of issuing demands.


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wish to take wootmaster's crown of of worse fan for 2020


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, and you should have walked away from it as well


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm glad you understood <3


[28-Aug-20 02:36 PM] dissociativity#8391
/mlp/ pls, you know I deserve it.


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Ungoliant#7236
So... what's the actual topic in here. Last time I was on the discord there wasn't a politics channel I'm pretty sure


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's up to an agressor to cease and repent. Not to a victim or a bystander.


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Dattebayo, Patachu, many others are drawing and promoting nazi ponys

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[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
this channel has been here forever, so you could have been muted by posting cringe here possibly


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just... go away man, it won’t help if you furiously give them attention while pretending to be smug


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
Datte and Patachu are both very cringy fascists unironically


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
We also use bangraters


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
:grate:


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe it will, maybe it won't. Time will tell, but I'm not leaving, sorry.


[28-Aug-20 02:37 PM] Audrey#7852
But people cherry picking posts are a must


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
Patachu wants to fuck me or something idk, he's obsessed a little

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[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Then you got serious interaction issues


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@dissociativity wouldn't recommend sexual intercourse with strangers like that


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Step away from the computer, nazi horses being banned from one platform won’t change your life at all


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Ungoliant#7236
he's french. The french will go after anything with a pulse, obviously


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Patachu is a good artist


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
he also loves @Luna von Rainy' ofc, I think there's some weird threesome fantasy and I don't like it


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
you literally shitpost about permanent revolution, you don't get to call out interaction issues, I mean come on.


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
And it does not matter what he wants to draw


[28-Aug-20 02:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And?


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
teaspoon too


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Dude is it this hard for you to ignore this all lmao


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] Audrey#7852
But if he did request sexual stuff to dissociatuivity that's kind of crossing the line


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
wait that'd be a foursome, I've had threesomes btw, they're kinda awkward and shit in real life, do not recommend


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
no, he didn't, I'm meming it's okay audrey, relax.


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] Audrey#7852
That's harrassment and illegal here. I ignored they went that far


[28-Aug-20 02:39 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@dissociativity sorry I'm taken and I'm not that much into dudes so no luck for patachu XD


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
good thing I'm a cute girl, alas I am not currently dating for mental health reasons so I'll have to reject you


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Its not harrassment if you dont like it use filters


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
if you want proof you have to simp for me tho, thems the rules.


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Are you assuming Patachu's gender >:T


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
@dissociativity aw why would you reject me for my mental health? I can get treatment I swear!


[28-Aug-20 02:40 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All i’m saying, though, is that this is technically @Audrey ‘s fault for she should have known a bit better about this channel’s usual political discussion environment

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[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
we are all terrible people and coming here was a mistake ❤️

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[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Yus


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I dunno if I'm cute or not


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Audrey#7852
I got there to find some people I lost from Twitter tbh


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I think I'm ugly as fuck

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[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
My fiancée is gorgeous though


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
send pics and ill tell you


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
nuh


[28-Aug-20 02:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
I managed to climb the self esteem mountain with some rusty ice picks enough to say I am


[28-Aug-20 02:42 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I sometimes can say I'm cute and lookin good


[28-Aug-20 02:42 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm not really gorgeous myself but I like it


[28-Aug-20 02:42 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
But most of the time I think I look like shit


[28-Aug-20 02:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
plus I have had people simp for me, I look pretty average realistically, but I'm content with myself, that's what's important


[28-Aug-20 02:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
I was a stupid attention seeker in my youth, I truly feel old entering my mid 20s smh


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Armandillo I'm cautious and going to assume 'they' but no one knows since they use female avatars or trans


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I'm in my early 20s


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm cute enough to make money with a web cam mkay


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just call everyone dude


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
that is all I really need to say


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I doubt anyone would pay me for a webcam stuff


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] Audrey#7852
Onlyfans? Many people use this


[28-Aug-20 02:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
nahh, this was before onlyfans, I'm cuter now, but I'm also lazy


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Audrey#7852
That's kind of sad but if that helps people why not


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
tho if I can take nudes to make a buck from simps and onlyfans is really that ez im for it


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I'll leave this channel before my self esteem gets crushed even more


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
camming is good, anyone can cam.


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Not me


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
works only if youre a girl

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[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
hey, I bet you're a cutey


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes take care!


[28-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Aw

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[28-Aug-20 02:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
I have money rn, I'ma bet


[28-Aug-20 02:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
you know how to use the site APIs and code, idk, that's already fairly attractive to start off with, to be fair


[28-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Audrey#7852
StonetossTrixie why do you assume no males aren't?


[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
camming is about emphasizing what makes you unique


[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Audrey#7852
They won't admit it but many are


[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
plenty of 'ugly' people can do it because they have beautiful uniquities


[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I am a girl of a lot of talents but I'm master of none


[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
who wants to look at dudes thats gay af

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[28-Aug-20 02:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
girls are coomers too


[28-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Audrey#7852
You're young Princess, you have plenty of time to find out!


[28-Aug-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
I had girls tip me on chaturbate back in the day


[28-Aug-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
I was fairly androgynous and youthful looking at 18 lol


[28-Aug-20 02:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
to be fair they may have been closet pedos, oof.

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[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I can code, I admin this place, I can draw relatively well, I can write, I can design (and game design), I'm great at games and FPS shooters, I have acceptable body and face that I can be sort of proud of sometimes if I groom myself enough


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Audrey#7852
18 is ok if you knew how teenagers are since 15 years or 16


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
18 year olds are cringe as shit, anyone under the age of 21 is cringe as shit


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Audrey#7852
They only care bout porn and exchanging nudes


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
>mfw i'm exactly 21


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
this is objective fact.


[28-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Am I cringe


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
hmnmm, there needs to be an extra test for this.


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
oh fuck we all like ponies this much we're all cringe oh god oh no


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes they're young and still have to grow that's the thing, but I like that, some also shoukdn't change and remain rebels


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
but under 21s are cringe in their own special immature ways.


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I'm also a furry and was a furry before even getting into mlp :v

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[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Audrey#7852
Adulthood is a sort of trap that destroys everything you believed as a teen


[28-Aug-20 02:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
being a furry is objectively less cringe than being a horsefucker


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I fuck a horse twice a week generally


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
That'd be my Fleety :v


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Since we RP as ponies


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm telling that to you all, don't give up yourself, don't let society shape you, not your parents or even less the government or job


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
based and ponypilled


[28-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
My parents did a horrible job at shaping me


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Audrey#7852
That's your right, I'm still a bit weirded out by all the pony "clop"


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
The government put me into a deep depression

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[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
ur a big smart nerd so u did good


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
aaaa


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey ha ha yes good advice if u live in fairytale


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I am a nerd aren't I


[28-Aug-20 02:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
the internet is for porn, every fandom has porn, EVERY. FANDOM.

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[28-Aug-20 02:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
when adults get together and are passionate about a given subject, and love eachother very much, porn is formed


[28-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Trixie you are chatting on a room dedicated to My Little Pony if you never really had dreams why are you here?


[28-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
im bored af on work and there's lots of people that i share some interests with


[28-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Audrey#7852
Some people feels unicorn or pony or connected really to an animal or persona, that's also psychology.


[28-Aug-20 02:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
you've met with a terrible fate, wagecuckery


[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
correct


[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
too bad we're all doomed to it in some shape or form


[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Audrey#7852
Perhaps I'm starting to get why you reason like this, you are frustrated Trixie


[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
this is why i dream about living on welfare like yall :GWmythicalHyperREEEE:

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[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
I like repairing tech.


[28-Aug-20 02:53 PM] dissociativity#8391
reviving dead phones, tablets, laptops, whatever, is awesome


[28-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't understand tech a lot but congrats that's helpful.


[28-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I like breaking (into) things


[28-Aug-20 02:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
saving children from dying mining conflict minerals one step at a time :' )
I kid, I do fuck all on the scale of things


[28-Aug-20 02:54 PM] dissociativity#8391
I like breaking (people)


[28-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
kinky


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Some people on derpi can be easily broken if I simply manipulate their upload order


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Like swap places of their 2 uploads


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
They will explode


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
she really be derpidomming them


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Audrey#7852
Stonetoss Trixie, living with small revenues is not bad. You just adjust yourself and forces you to survive and think


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
i'm a switch so yus I can dom~


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Audrey#7852
I think everyone every rich teenager should have to.


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i am living with small revenues and im working fuckin full day


[28-Aug-20 02:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't actually get to dom as much as I'd like, I'm a very tiny person, too many people with shit taste not into smol dom size differences, SAD!


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
How tall are you


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
158cm roughly.


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
do u know about russian salaries?


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
and about 54kg.


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Oh yeah I can see why but hey size doesn't matter when you got confidence and dominant attitude


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Audrey#7852
No idea but that's hard to compare Trixie


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Also I'm just lucky that Fleety and I are of very similar height


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
in the revolution I get to be shoulder turret pew pew


[28-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Just 1-2cm apart from each other


[28-Aug-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
piggy back turret time pew pew pew pew


[28-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
So either of us can dom the other one XD


[28-Aug-20 02:57 PM] dissociativity#8391
tall people keep oppressing me smh, the shorts will feast one day


[28-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Aw


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
chairs and stepladders have made you obsolete, next we come for your blood


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey its 20000-30000 roubles in average,about 270-400$ per month


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Audrey#7852
If I earn 1200 I'm just on the average-low for working in edu. And I might be happy with that it pays the bills and all. If you earn 1200 rubbles monthly and equivalent to 600 you can certainly do more


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yeah 1200 euros


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Stonetoss, compared to rich are you in the higher scale or the lower?

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[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Also I'm just lucky that Fleety and I are of very similar height
@Luna von Rainy'  it means you can 69 each other


[28-Aug-20 02:58 PM] dissociativity#8391
oof.
I get about 1000usd a month on welfare roughly normally, due to covid supplement I now get about 2000 ish


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
compared to the rich im broke


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I'm like (I won't reveal exact height for my personal security) 170cm and fleety is 1-2cm shorter or taller than me


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
this is approximation and I may be shorter or taller


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's not really my height that's totally the problem, I know people as short as me built like a tank


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Now compare with the poor. Here, under 500€/mo we're poor because life in Europe is expensive


[28-Aug-20 02:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
I sorta have a tiny sprinter's body.


[28-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
western europe,in eastern europe 500 euros is like average salary


[28-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
At least PC components are cheaper for you.


[28-Aug-20 03:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
I am working out tho to be fair, gotta become swoletariat, a fascist worked out today, have you?


[28-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and its more rent price,you dont pay that much for food


[28-Aug-20 03:00 PM] dissociativity#8391
all communists should work out if they are able, you only need your body, no equipment.


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Stonetoss Trixie do you think it's deserved or normal that there are people having a greater income and access to more commodities and you are on the bottom?


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Эᴚ|∫ pc components is selling in dollars so no


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
only YOU can end the skinny soy boy stereotype


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
absolutely not @Audrey


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie not for you and me, for them


[28-Aug-20 03:01 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's well known russia is a plutocracy due to neoliberal looting of the economy


[28-Aug-20 03:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
tfw someone in another server argued to me that russia is left wing because apparently some institutions are culturally????? anti-russian????

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[28-Aug-20 03:02 PM] dissociativity#8391
and some???? social welfare programs exist??? somewhere???? healthcare maybe???


[28-Aug-20 03:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Trixie, You're just another victim of capitalism, but why are you defending it?

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[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Russians would pursue me and shit on me for being not straight


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
russia is just CIA's Chile pinochet project but bigger


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] Audrey#7852
I hate Putin and Russians defending him.


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
except oops it's now an american enemy oh god oh fuck noo we fucked up CIA go back go back


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
capitalism did not forced anyone to steal all those money instead of sharing it with people


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] Audrey#7852
''But we are out of communism, embrace capitalism!'


[28-Aug-20 03:03 PM] dissociativity#8391
no, it just made it the most rational course of action for them.


[28-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its people who stole it,who build a system that only profiting few man in charge


[28-Aug-20 03:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
America does this, Australia does, this, pretty much all of europe does this, just not as badly as russia.


[28-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i want capitalism like in germany or france or italy


[28-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Audrey#7852
Russia need another revolution. One day when Putin will be old and get ousted that will be when things will change worldwide

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[28-Aug-20 03:04 PM] dissociativity#8391
there is no capitalist nation that this doesn't happen, there's just more programs to protect the poor and vulnerable in these other ones.


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Audrey#7852
This is inherent to capitalism, yes.


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
he's already old but he wants to be in charge until he die


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Russian internal and external policies are dogshit


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] dissociativity#8391
like I love my good ol' aussie welfare


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
How do I know? I'm from that fucking country but I live in Germany


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
And thank fuck that I live in Germany, although russia still finds ways to fuck me over legally


[28-Aug-20 03:05 PM] Audrey#7852
You too? I'm in France and Russia have a huge influence there


[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
But no matter soon I'll have german citizenship and I'll burn the russian ID


[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
who gives a fuck about influence


[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Opponent#3498
```to be fair they may have been closet pedos, oof.```
money's money, and it's money they don't have no more, so...


[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
can't find the image on my pc so had to steal it but


[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] dissociativity#8391
excuse the slurs buut

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[28-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its well knows putin spend millions of dollars for his propaganda outside of russia


[28-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Audrey#7852
1980s: Russians influence us and want us to become Communists! (Not) 
2020s: Russians incluence EU and US elections, interfere with politics, markets, and spreads fake news to make people love capitalism


[28-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but its all dogshit inside of russia noone gives a fuck about anything or anyone


[28-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
all the state wants is your taxes and it gives nothing in return


[28-Aug-20 03:08 PM] dissociativity#8391
here, one that isn't for ants

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[28-Aug-20 03:08 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I hope I never have to go to Russia ever again

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[28-Aug-20 03:09 PM] dissociativity#8391
the would would be immeasurably better without Austraia and it's economic theory.


[28-Aug-20 03:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
Milton Freidman's economic theory resulted in untold misery to this day.


[28-Aug-20 03:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
and was applied to russia of course.


[28-Aug-20 03:10 PM] dissociativity#8391
there's a lovely documentary on it, based on the book.
The Shock Doctrine.


[28-Aug-20 03:11 PM] dissociativity#8391
will teach you some horrific history, good watch, kinda harrowing tho.


[28-Aug-20 03:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway, I'm sleepy, night night zzzz


[28-Aug-20 03:13 PM] Audrey#7852
What time is it in Australia?


[28-Aug-20 03:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
11:13PM, so time to get in bed, maybe watch something on my phone, brush teeth, wind down


[28-Aug-20 03:14 PM] Audrey#7852
I see! That was a pleasure talking with you^^ Good night!


[28-Aug-20 03:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
sleep around 12, wake up at 9-9:30, consistent good sleep patterns help your mental health, I aint staying up past 12 if I can help it


[28-Aug-20 03:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I hope I never have to go to Russia ever again
@Luna von Rainy'  come to Brazil

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[28-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
I might if things force me to


[28-Aug-20 03:18 PM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Otherwise I intend to stay in Germany for now


[28-Aug-20 03:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That was an order. You’re supposed to resist


[28-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-walmart-are-teaming-on-a-potential-tiktok-takeover-deal/

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[28-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
> 158cm roughly.
> and about 54kg.
I know what this reminds me of. NSFW but probably not offensive, now if only I could find it...


[28-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```compared to the rich im broke```
the better word would be 'destitute' :D


[28-Aug-20 03:44 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
As a result of ABS-CBN's loss of franchise, this happens. https://www.interaksyon.com/politics-issues/2020/08/28/175840/tv-patrol-regional-stations-abscbn-reporters-bid-goodbye-after-years-in-public-service/

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TV Patrol's regional stations, ABS-CBN reporters bid goodbye after ...
Filipino viewers expressed their gratitude to TV Patrol for its decades-long public service after it announced the final airing of its Regional Network Group (RNG) across the country on August 28. ABS-CBN management previously announced that they will lay off workers in its bu...
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[28-Aug-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/qivs2Ci.mp4

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[28-Aug-20 03:59 PM] byte[]#2610
Dying inside


[28-Aug-20 04:14 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Cursed.


[28-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looks like her eyes are rolled down, as opposed of rolling up.


[28-Aug-20 04:16 PM] byte[]#2610
Probably amphetamines


[28-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Probably a reptilian


[28-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFJ62vlZbls

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COCAINUM!- Arnold Schwarzenegger
Arnold being Arnold
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[28-Aug-20 04:18 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She's not rolling her eyes, she's widening them in an "I can't believe this bitch's gall"


[28-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I can’t believe Trump hasn’t been JFK’d

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[28-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
why would he be? Everyone with the means to organise it is quite content having him there.


[28-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
Trump is this wonderful thing you can pin all the woes in the world on. It helps that he _is_ responsible for a significant portion of them, of course.


[28-Aug-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
he's perfect. People are willing to vote in a literal fucking lich to replace him.


[28-Aug-20 04:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the presidential limo was designed to prevent a jfk from happening again


[28-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Opponent#3498
an open-topped design was a mistake anyway.


[28-Aug-20 04:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though you kmay be able to spike strip the limo soon since trump is demanding they remove the good year bullet proof tires


[28-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
trying to fight with CIA was a mistake


[28-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Opponent#3498
ah yes, I was wondering about that for a moment.


[28-Aug-20 04:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Can fill the tires with foam to make them spike proof (for a while)


[28-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Trump isn't always inside his limo


[28-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
He’s usually in a McDonald’s


[28-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Opponent#3498
he's always a useful idiot though.


[28-Aug-20 04:28 PM] Opponent#3498
among those with capacity to take him down, nobody would want to.


[28-Aug-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
true, though the act of jfking a president is shootign them inside the limo


[28-Aug-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
what you want is an abraham lincoln


[28-Aug-20 04:29 PM] Audrey#7852
We also have issue due to Trump's policies on international markets and lots of businesses. If Trump is re-elected (please no!) We all are in trouble, he will be uncontrollable


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
No longer possible unless you have anti-MBT cannon.


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Audrey#7852
I thought an impeachment disqualified from reelection. Trump had two!


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
impeachment is nothing. A formal disapproval.


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the removal was the big part and the senate fucked that hard


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Audrey#7852
It can lead to destitution


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Opponent#3498
it doesn't have any bite behind it, and even then didn't go through in the end. I had this impression it mattered too.


[28-Aug-20 04:30 PM] byte[]#2610
senate needs to vote for removal


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] byte[]#2610
impeachment is just a legal charging by the house


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Audrey#7852
Why didn't they do?


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because trump is useful to them and their investors


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Audrey#7852
He can be impeached again if he gets re-elected, right?


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yes, but it's a wasted effort.


[28-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Audrey#7852
Okay even the democrats voted against?


[28-Aug-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he can but it entirely depends on the senate majority whether he gets removed for not


[28-Aug-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the democrats were outvoted


[28-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Audrey#7852
I wonder how by all means Trump even managed to get there, same for Boris Johnson and all the things going on.


[28-Aug-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the republicans control the senate

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[28-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Opponent#3498
oh you have people like you to thank for it, in part Audrey.


[28-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
people don't like sanctimonious pricks telling them what to think. Regardless of whether or not they agree.


[28-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Opponent#3498
so, you get backlash against the liberals. It hurts everyone in the end.


[28-Aug-20 04:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Us leftists are warning you guys about electing a man like Trump. You vote for him?


[28-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty much, yes.


[28-Aug-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically rural farmers are die hard contrarians


[28-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Please don't vote Biden! (sarc.)


[28-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't act like "the left" doesn't have populist trash as well


[28-Aug-20 04:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that;s the vote he won on


[28-Aug-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the left also has populist trash as well and some of thme voted for trump to spite hillary


[28-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Opponent#3498
we actually had someone here not too long ago with that idea.


[28-Aug-20 04:35 PM] Opponent#3498
'They betrayed Bernie, they have to suffer, I'm voting Trump and so do all my friends'. It's a different issue to hating the Twitter loudmounths though.


[28-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Audrey#7852
There's radical "tankies" on Twitter who called out Sander's incapacity to govern and even brought back old memories about him. Some really have done this to him because he's not leftist enough.


[28-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Spain's Sanchez and buddy Iglesias have done _great_ fucking the country over while being all smiles and promises

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[28-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Audrey#7852
There's also far-left people who also claimed to vote for Le Pen because Mélenchon can be stubborn and called both Macron and LePen the same. (They're not, really)


[28-Aug-20 04:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://archive.is/uJIRO

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[28-Aug-20 04:49 PM] wren#0114
wew


[28-Aug-20 04:49 PM] wren#0114
bully censorship sucks


[28-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Audrey#7852
Isn't it crazy how a business magazine about economy and corporations exposes capitalists' fuckups?


[28-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Opponent#3498
funny that, huh. @ wren


[28-Aug-20 04:51 PM] wren#0114
@ Opponent


[28-Aug-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thems rating money


[28-Aug-20 04:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
keeps the subscriber count going


[28-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, outrage pays.


[28-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
@ wren @ Opponent


[28-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Opponent#3498
I dunno why people make fun of that, when I don't want to ping someone but direct a message at them.


[28-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Audrey#7852
Wren, this is actual censorship, one that leads to a viral contagion, illness and potential death.


[28-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, so we got 'not real censorship' now as well.


[28-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
And that's illegal. they are putting people in danger because of these.


[28-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Opponent#3498
well, much like communism, it certainly _feels_ real in the moment.


[28-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
This is America, Aud, this is normal.


[28-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Opponent we talked about it yesterday or two days ago I recall?


[28-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes sadly but also america screams censorships when taking down confederate flags, statues and nazi pony drawings.


[28-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
'I can't be racist? Censorship! Freeze Peetch'


[28-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Opponent#3498
we talked about a lot yesterday and most of it relevant to people forcing censorship, you'll have to be a bit more specific :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Audrey#7852
It's funny I imagine my name for Opponent is also  "Opponent" and we are both designed to attack eachother due to Dischord's AI testing us.


[28-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Audrey#7852
If it is meant to hurt or harrass someone or a group of people, it's not censorship.


[28-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Opponent#3498
no, your name for me is TwitterBot2674227

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[28-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm probably training an AI here or something.


[28-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Opponent#3498
those seem to become better and better at generating coherent text.


[28-Aug-20 05:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
RNC in a nutshell.


[28-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Opponent#3498
did anyone use MAGA during it? Because that's a phenomenal self-own.


[28-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Audrey#7852
If Trump gets reelected America will be on fire

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[28-Aug-20 05:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
america is already on fire


[28-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Audrey#7852
People will be on the streets everywhere will be the insurrection.

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[28-Aug-20 05:02 PM] byte[]#2610
how to hack twitter:
1. make a bunch of edgy contrarian posts that false flag liberals
2. make a nuclear hot take like "nazis should be sent to execution camps and systematically executed"
3. spam it at as many people as you can and wait for it to get picked up by conservative circles
4. repeat
5. profit


[28-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
actually a legit strat.

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[28-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
it helps that there are people that genuinly believe it on the left. We even got to meet one.


[28-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Audrey#7852
They already do a lot of 'false flags' attacks


[28-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Audrey#7852
I even befriended a LGBTQ person and found out it was a troll abusing other LGBTQ users, profiting their social distress


[28-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
It's terrifying they pretend to agree with me on everything and then you see posts meant to stir drama and new friend is Sidounours, a trolling account on Twitter made by the al right


[28-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
And I trusted this person she came to me asking for help


[28-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
and then they refuse to join the attack mob to take down some poor shmuck, and the horrible truth is  revealed :twismug:


[28-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
FAKE BLACKS AFTER ALL.

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[28-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
oh, sorry. FAKE LGBTQs.

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[28-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Audrey#7852
That's really not a subject of joke, some have a very abusive behavior, stalking and lying mostly


[28-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Oh sorry. FAKE NUCLEAR WARHEADs.

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[28-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't know most of your memes or if you are being racist here


[28-Aug-20 05:09 PM] byte[]#2610
you're just... not very informed on the things we discuss here


[28-Aug-20 05:10 PM] byte[]#2610
(to put it lightly, tbh)


[28-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
I know I'm still trying to adapt but this Opponent person often gets confusing. 🙄  I still haven't found a way to mute them


[28-Aug-20 05:11 PM] byte[]#2610
xd


[28-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
They’re your opponent

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[28-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Even if I get right wing suddenly?


[28-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Audrey#7852
I would test them but what I could say will be used against me later


[28-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
if you get right wing suddenly it'll just kill your whole career here and I won't have to do much.


[28-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
also you'll become like Patachu.


[28-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Okay that's a bit scary


[28-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
If you get right wing It’ll simply cause you to get dabbed on


[28-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Never going to happen 🙂


[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Is the Trump team still pushing KAG?


[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Haven't seen it in a while


[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Kill all gays

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[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
KAG


[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Audrey#7852
Sounds more accurate for them.


[28-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I always knew trump would show his true face


[28-Aug-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
I have no idea what they're pushing


[28-Aug-20 05:15 PM] byte[]#2610
Dear leader is too rattled by all the protests and vigilante violence to do anything other than point and gawk and try to get his fans to go stir the pot

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[28-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Must be pretty pissed the latest protests and the hurricane happened during his crowning ceremony


[28-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Taken away previous news prime time


[28-Aug-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
oh, and holding political rallies at the white house https://i.imgur.com/yhXMj2m.jpg

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[28-Aug-20 05:18 PM] byte[]#2610
(incredibly illegal, but who's gonna stop him?)


[28-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Audrey#7852
Safety distances? None! Masks? None!


[28-Aug-20 05:19 PM] byte[]#2610
I was more going for the "you can't use federal office for political campaigns" angle but that too


[28-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Teaspoon#9532
There was also Pompeo giving a speech from Jerusalem during a state visit


[28-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Audrey#7852
Oh I didn't knew this! He can't?


[28-Aug-20 05:20 PM] wren#0114
all censorship is real censorship


[28-Aug-20 05:20 PM] byte[]#2610
Hatch act


[28-Aug-20 05:20 PM] wren#0114
hmm


[28-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if Trump had the military parade for him in MAGA hats and have F-35s spell out "TRUMP 2020" in the sky


[28-Aug-20 05:22 PM] wren#0114
for hatch act, it's about not using executive branch job for political means while you're on the job. I get that I suppose. I'd prefer to be able to say anything at any time of course


[28-Aug-20 05:23 PM] wren#0114
oh you were talking about something else


[28-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Anything, like the VP going "We have definitive proof Biden fucks kids but can't show you because it involves state secrets?"


[28-Aug-20 05:23 PM] byte[]#2610
I would argue that protecting democratic means from obvious abuses and corruption is more important than having people being able to use their government jobs to aid their campaigns ...


[28-Aug-20 05:23 PM] wren#0114
president holding a rally is not hatch act violation, because hatch act doesn't apply on president or vice


[28-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Audrey#7852
He's using your tax money if you're American.


[28-Aug-20 05:24 PM] wren#0114
so is congress


[28-Aug-20 05:24 PM] wren#0114
they should go home more often


[28-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you endorse a president like Trump's campaign using money and public funded buildings? (no)


[28-Aug-20 05:25 PM] wren#0114
he's using gov money for the rally? the building itself I don't care about if it's used


[28-Aug-20 05:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, who's gonna be cleaning up the mess after it's over, WH people or Trump campaign people?

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[28-Aug-20 05:26 PM] wren#0114
is the argument that association of being near the white house is somehow swaying political feelings?


[28-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Audrey#7852
I have a joke in mind., Trump rents the white house, you are the landlord, he signed for four years. And you see your bailiff making a political rally on your lawn


[28-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes you are Trump's Landlord!


[28-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Audrey#7852
Except he doesn't really pays the rent.


[28-Aug-20 05:27 PM] wren#0114
I'd find it scummy if he's using gov money for managing the build-up and tear-down


[28-Aug-20 05:28 PM] wren#0114
idk how white house staff stuff works


[28-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Audrey#7852
Neither I, but having a president who breaks the law several times, anyone voting for him or supporting him should get in trouble, or feel bad.


[28-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm sure a lot of people who know and care about the history of America cares how their building is being used.


[28-Aug-20 05:31 PM] Audrey#7852
Even the old right wing grumps who voted for Trump


[28-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/moneyymaya/status/1295746595217125377

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Can we start a movement that’ll make sure black trans people have guns and proper training? Cus they deserve to be safe and I’m tired of people hurting them
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[28-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Audrey#7852
Reminds me our convo as Marx stated proles need to be armed


[28-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/skaijackson/status/1267166152754556928 With all that I forgot  🤮

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Public documents don’t lie. Someone like THIS should not be our President.. even though you paid these people off your dirty crimes will be brought to light Trump!
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[28-Aug-20 05:46 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.redd.it/dc6o4ao1ynj51.jpg

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[28-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Audrey#7852
Be back, wish I could use Discord on my iPad but it's broken rn and might have to get it fixed


[28-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Phelan#7647
FDR's acceptance speech was at the white house, so it's not the first time it happened.


[28-Aug-20 05:51 PM] Phelan#7647
For FDR's 3rd term


[28-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Opponent#3498
everyone already knows where the US leadership stands though. These procedural things, like where to hold rallies and record speeches, they matter for basicly nobody but government employees. Trying to make headlines off it is just big derp.


[28-Aug-20 06:33 PM] Phelan#7647
I liked the fireworks.


[28-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
oof

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[28-Aug-20 08:14 PM] RYDE#8862
I had enough of Qanon conspiracy. When will it end?

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[28-Aug-20 08:29 PM] byte[]#2610
Never


[28-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/28/jacob-blake-shackled-to-hospital-bed-father-says

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[28-Aug-20 08:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
for a minute I thought this was the Onion. Paralysed man handcuffed to bed


[28-Aug-20 09:04 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/ex-boston-police-union-pres-charged-with-raping-4-more-children/2183771/

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Ex-Boston Police Union Pres. Charged With Raping 4 More Children
A former head of Boston’s police union already charged with raping a young relative now faces 16 new charges and accusations that he sexually assaulted and abused four more children, prosecutors said Tuesday. Patrick Rose, a former Boston police officer and president of the Bo...
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[28-Aug-20 09:08 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/four-republican-national-convention-attendees-test-positive-for-coronavirus-officials-say

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[28-Aug-20 09:08 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure 0 of them will die because karma only exists in video games :twiright:


[28-Aug-20 09:09 PM] byte[]#2610
You'd be wrong on that account


[28-Aug-20 09:10 PM] byte[]#2610
It's happened before (Hermain Cain, ffs!) and it'll happen again


[28-Aug-20 09:12 PM] byte[]#2610
https://i.imgur.com/yDefLwz.jpg

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Imagine being so scared you cant approach someone whithout your gun in hand.
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[28-Aug-20 09:25 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh hand on the holster is standard procedure from what I remember.


[28-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
I do believe it's overkill already, but, it's standard.


[28-Aug-20 09:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump and pence were mingling with the untested crowd at the convention too, hopefully it amounts to something


[28-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Phelan#7647
What if the real Q was the friends we made along the way

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[28-Aug-20 09:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/q-star-treak-gif-12302018

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[28-Aug-20 09:33 PM] jlun2#8758
> hopefully it amounts to something
they'll be fine

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[28-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
yes


[28-Aug-20 10:04 PM] Sally Moon#4922
At this point Trump might as well replace every image of Jesus with the monopoly man or Mr Krabs with moar face


[28-Aug-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah, he;d rather tape his own face over jesus


[28-Aug-20 10:05 PM] Opponent#3498
his base would likely not get the reference. Yeah, his face is a much better fit.


[28-Aug-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
jesus coming back would legit be booed off as a commie @prism stryder(intexda)


[28-Aug-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
american christians would hate jesus


[28-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Its weird how a lot of White Evangelicals use the old Testament to justify their prejudices when old testament god was very draconic in his methods.


[28-Aug-20 10:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the rules of the old testament are also very draconic


[28-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Opponent#3498
the Old Testament gave us it's version of Apocalypse. The faithful will die quickly, the heretics will get the final war🤘


[28-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Opponent#3498
the rest of it is crap and could be burned for no loss.


[28-Aug-20 10:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
sell your soul to god or go to hell!


[28-Aug-20 10:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1299415455203983360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1299415455203983360%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1299415455203983360
Bruh

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[28-Aug-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course he wants to take the bolsanaro route


[28-Aug-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s cheaper


[28-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
well it took BJ falling sick himself to reconsider from it so...


[28-Aug-20 10:12 PM] Opponent#3498
the idea _is_ attractive on paper.


[28-Aug-20 10:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile bolsanaro got sick form it and is still saying trying to prevent it is for gay people

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[28-Aug-20 10:13 PM] Opponent#3498
pay nothing and get a stronger nation, fuck yes.


[28-Aug-20 10:13 PM] wren#0114
then invade countries with weaker immunity for their oil

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[28-Aug-20 10:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[28-Aug-20 10:14 PM] wren#0114
what is that supposed to mean


[28-Aug-20 10:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the opposite of jesus' teachings and it;s basically how america runs christianity


[28-Aug-20 10:14 PM] Opponent#3498
the inversion of original lines I imagine


[28-Aug-20 10:15 PM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[28-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Anyone sit through Trump speech last night, I did

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[28-Aug-20 10:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the term christianity is a reference to the disciples of christ(jesus) and his teachings. somehow america took the teachings of jesus and decided to do the opposite and formed evangelism


[28-Aug-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I didnt but i can imagine it was a slog fest of assaults on biden;s character


[28-Aug-20 10:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
lots of use of the word communist and socialist thrown around


[28-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Opponent#3498
tldr is 'vote for 4 more years of this', the details are not really important


[28-Aug-20 10:19 PM] Opponent#3498
no, there's one detail. I hope he said MAGA again. I really do.


[28-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Koblod you are correct it was all of that and it went on for 75 minutes, it was also teleprompter Trump too o you could tell he wasn't really into it his speech was slurring very badly at the end.


[28-Aug-20 10:22 PM] byte[]#2610
make america great again again

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[28-Aug-20 10:22 PM] jlun2#8758
> somehow america took the teachings of jesus and decided to do the opposite and formed evangelism
how the hell did we get from "the rich cant get to heaven" to wealth gospel


[28-Aug-20 10:23 PM] Opponent#3498
'The peasants are illiterate anyway, they won't know the difference'.


[28-Aug-20 10:23 PM] byte[]#2610
ideological brainwashing


[28-Aug-20 10:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Conage, Rockafella literally buying his way into heaven by donating a billion dollars to some church


[28-Aug-20 10:24 PM] byte[]#2610
they basically destroyed the nuance in the original ideas of many writers proposing analytical or ideological systems and turned it into capitalism good freedom good communism bad


[28-Aug-20 10:25 PM] byte[]#2610
even adam smith was like "bro, the capitalists are gonna try to coup the state once they get enough wealth"


[28-Aug-20 10:25 PM] wren#0114

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[28-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, see, it's premised on 'sound doctrine'.


[28-Aug-20 10:26 PM] Opponent#3498
which isn't immutable, it changes over time as society evolves.


[28-Aug-20 10:27 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Which they kinda already have, the whole thing about China started with complaints from big businesses working in China but they also didn't want America to do anything about it cause it would close them out of the market.


[28-Aug-20 10:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
All of this lobbying from big businesses really explains why the Trump administration is so bad at foreign policy.


[28-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Opponent#3498
it's bad because it's a job he _actually has to do himself_, and so does his staff which he replaced with yes-men to please The Ego.


[28-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no competent or even semi-competent unaffiliated person you can write that off to.


[28-Aug-20 10:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
true, Trump has long gotten out of Trump due to his dad but now that his dad isn't there to bail him out Trump is struggling the GOP is trying to hold him up out of self preservation but everyone knows that when Trump loses the election he is going to be under so many law suits he won't be able to run for office in 2024 if he makes it that long he isn't exactly the paragon of healthy living. 

And the GOP is going to be without their golden goose so how are they going to woo in Trump voters? its going to be Mitt Rommey all over again.


[28-Aug-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they'll try to rope in Trump;s darling golden children


[28-Aug-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or jared kushner


[28-Aug-20 10:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
jared kushner is basically running things anyway


[28-Aug-20 10:56 PM] jlun2#8758
he looks creepy as hell


[28-Aug-20 11:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump is vicariously fucking his daughter through kushner

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[28-Aug-20 11:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
kushner is a realtor mogul with daddy money, much like trump


[28-Aug-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/kenosha-alleged-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-charges

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Prosecutors release charges against alleged Kenosha shooter Kyle Ri...
Teen has been charged with six criminal counts in connection with the shootings of three protesters in Wisconsin earlier this week
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[28-Aug-20 11:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The charges have been filed by prosecutors against Rittenhouse in Kenosha county include first-degree reckless homicide in the death of Joseph Rosenbaum and first-degree intentional homicide in the death of Anthony Huber, according to the complaint.
Rittenhouse was also charged with possession of dangerous weapon by someone under the age of 18. Authorities allege Rittenhouse used a Smith & Wesson AR-15 style .223 rifle.


[28-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
the title is misleading, it's postponed extradition.


[28-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
and tbh the article is all over the place in general. A clickbait, or as close to it as it gets.


[28-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
oh nvm, release _charges_.


[28-Aug-20 11:16 PM] Opponent#3498
release as in publish. It took me a while.


[28-Aug-20 11:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his trial only began today, he hasnt actually been convicted yet, so far he's only been charged


[28-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah yeah. I read the word 'released' and my brain blew a gasket.


[28-Aug-20 11:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/514200-researchers-find-first-us-case-of-covid-reinfection

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Researchers find first US case of COVID-19 reinfection
Researchers have documented what appears to be the first instance in the U.S. of someone getting reinfected with COVID-19.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/coronavirus_vaccine_trials_08132020_1.jpg


[28-Aug-20 11:20 PM] Opponent#3498
sigh. Well, at least it's hopefully rare.


[28-Aug-20 11:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/514170-appeals-court-rules-due-process-rights-dont-apply-to-guantanamo

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A federal appeals court ruled on Friday that foreign detainees at Guantanamo Bay do not have the right to make due process claims in court.
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[28-Aug-20 11:22 PM] Opponent#3498
there's no crime without witnesses.


[28-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Opponent#3498
so Guantanamo is still 'we can take anyone anywhere for any reason and duration' CIA op or?


[28-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's not "officially" US soil


[28-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So yes


[28-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
US laws don't apply there


[28-Aug-20 11:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/514182-blake-no-longer-restrained-at-hospital-after-warrant-vacated

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Jacob Blake no longer restrained at hospital after warrant vacated
Jacob Blake, the 29-year-old Black man who was shot multiple times by a Kenosha, Wis., police officer, is no longer restrained to his hospital bed, his attorney
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[29-Aug-20 12:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nv0XIwCa9E he;s already doing another speech

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President Trump Speaks in Manchester, New Hampshire
President Trump delivers remarks at an airport hangar in Manchester, New Hampshire, in support of his reelection bid.

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[29-Aug-20 12:55 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Aug-20 01:17 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/trump-advisors-were-ordered-not-to-mention-white-supremacy-and-domestic-terror-in-his-presence-report/

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Speaking to the Daily Beast, two former top Homeland Security officials say there was an “unwritten policy” not to say words like “domestic terrorism” and “white supremacy” around President Trump, for fear that he would interpret the topics as being critical of him. Both Eliza...
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[29-Aug-20 01:24 AM] jlun2#8758
> too critical 
when is he going to make criticism illegal

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[29-Aug-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he has probably mulled that over several times and thne got shot down by the 1st amendment


[29-Aug-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se_majest%C3%A9_in_Thailand I don;t actually knwo if he knows this exists, but if he does he has probably wanted to enact this for himself on america since the start

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[29-Aug-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> In Thailand, lèse majesté (insulting the monarch) is criminalized by Section 112 of the Thai Criminal Code. It is illegal to defame, insult, or threaten the king, queen, heir-apparent, heir-presumptive, or regent. Modern Thai lèse-majesté law has been on the statute books since 1908; "insult" was criminalized and lèse majesté was made a crime against national security in 1957. The punishment, last strengthened in 1976 and the only constitutional monarchy to do so since World War II, is three to fifteen years of imprisonment per count and has been described as the "world's harshest lèse majesté law"[1] and "possibly the strictest criminal-defamation law anywhere".[2] According to social scientist Michael Connors, its enforcement "has been in the interest of the palace."


[29-Aug-20 01:29 AM] byte[]#2610
thigh land


[29-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pardons-alice-johnson-praised-republican-convention-night/story?id=72686751

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Kim Kardashian West had played a key role in Alice Johnson's release two years ago, before Johnson was pardoned Friday by President Donald Trump.
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[29-Aug-20 01:41 AM] byte[]#2610
wow that almost seems like an impeachable offense


[29-Aug-20 01:42 AM] byte[]#2610
where are we at, like 3000 of those so far in a normal presidency?


[29-Aug-20 01:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Nobody's counting anymore

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[29-Aug-20 01:50 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
I hate America's politics nowadays.


[29-Aug-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
who doesn't


[29-Aug-20 01:52 AM] byte[]#2610
it's a bunch of fucking assholes looting the country and convincing their followers that its liberals fault that their life sucks

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[29-Aug-20 01:53 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
Yeah apparently Trump supporters don't like masks. Just wait until you get the ronavirus.

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[29-Aug-20 01:53 AM] byte[]#2610
That's Socialism https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-have-been-crying-socialist-at-conventions-for-60-years

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Republicans Have Been Crying ‘Socialist’ at Conventions for 60 Year...
From Barry Goldwater to Kimberly Guilfoyle, there’s a long tradition of seeing red in every Democrat.
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[29-Aug-20 01:54 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Aug-20 01:58 AM] jlun2#8758
@prism stryder(intexda) hey i saw a vid on that recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9coptltk27s

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[29-Aug-20 01:59 AM] jlun2#8758
they listed some examples too


[29-Aug-20 01:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
A glimpse into our future


[29-Aug-20 02:24 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/514224-officials-interviewing-to-replace-ftc-chair-who-has-resisted-trumps

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Officials interviewing to replace FTC chair who has resisted Trump'...
Trump administration officials are interviewing to replace President Trump's Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Chair Joe Simons,
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[29-Aug-20 02:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Officials interviewing to replace FTC chair who has resisted Trump's crackdown on social media


[29-Aug-20 02:25 AM] byte[]#2610
> But Simons could resign for unrelated reasons after the November election, even though his term is slated to last through 2024.


[29-Aug-20 02:34 AM] byte[]#2610
I know I don't usually link WP anymore, but
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/nearly-every-claim-trump-made-about-bidens-positions-was-false/

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Analysis | Nearly every claim Trump made about Biden’s positions wa...
The president capped off a week of misrepresenting Biden's candidacy.

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[29-Aug-20 02:37 AM] Opponent#3498
le gasp, truly.


[29-Aug-20 02:39 AM] byte[]#2610
I'm shook, how dare trump lie to us


[29-Aug-20 02:43 AM] jimm#1439

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[29-Aug-20 02:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
what


[29-Aug-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-oann-reporter-emily-miller-fired-as-fda-spokeswoman-after-just-11-days-on-the-job

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Ex-OANN Reporter Emily Miller Out as FDA Spokeswoman After Just 11 ...
Her ouster came after a week in which the FDA took heat for overstating the benefits of convalescent plasma as a treatment for the coronavirus.
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[29-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
> Nearly all of what’s been built to date replaces barriers that were in place during the Obama administration, albeit with much sturdier and higher obstacles.


[29-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Opponent#3498
:lul:


[29-Aug-20 03:13 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/jdEdGPnaDRY

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Louis Rossmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdEdGPnaDRY
Apple doesn't want users to know where their money is going
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/28/apple-blocked-facebook-update-apple-fees/
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[29-Aug-20 03:19 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Tim Apple uses Apple users money to wipe his ass.


[29-Aug-20 03:21 AM] byte[]#2610
It is time for apple to die


[29-Aug-20 03:28 AM] jlun2#8758
apple is unkillable


[29-Aug-20 03:28 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Louis always looks like he spent 3 days without sleep and then charged through no mans land to raid the opposing side's trenches


[29-Aug-20 03:34 AM] byte[]#2610
basically


[29-Aug-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Aug-20 04:23 AM] byte[]#2610
when u just wanna grill


[29-Aug-20 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
if you reverse the panels this is loss


[29-Aug-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh, maybe


[29-Aug-20 04:31 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The girl isn't lying down


[29-Aug-20 04:33 AM] byte[]#2610

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[29-Aug-20 04:34 AM] byte[]#2610
(2007)


[29-Aug-20 04:38 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eerie


[29-Aug-20 04:43 AM] byte[]#2610
fucking prophetic

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[29-Aug-20 04:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[29-Aug-20 04:51 AM] Opponent#3498
truly remarkable depth of thought.


[29-Aug-20 04:52 AM] byte[]#2610
according to this guy biden is supposed to be the one with dementia


[29-Aug-20 04:55 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
biden has a speech impediment. But hey, wouldn't be the first time Trump's openly mocked someone with a disability


[29-Aug-20 04:57 AM] Treascair#7785
that article about Biden's stutter was *fascinating to read*, I'd like to note.  I had no idea he had one.


[29-Aug-20 05:20 AM] Crow#5457
for that comic to be loss, panel 4 would be panel 1, panel 3 would be panel 4, and panel 1 would be panel 3, panel 2 is proper loss format already

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[29-Aug-20 05:21 AM] byte[]#2610
lossed in analysis


[29-Aug-20 05:35 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/Cascadianphotog/status/1298890983791198210

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As Protesters start to trickle out "No cock like Horse cock" plays from the loudspeaker. https://t.co/rekWR7Vs28
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[29-Aug-20 05:56 AM] PwnyPony#6185
Fuck the Police. With horse cock.

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[29-Aug-20 12:00 PM] Audrey#7852
fuck the ICE


[29-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/ChuckModi1/status/1299174942819454978 ✊

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Police are paid w/taxpayer $$$. If they are not answerable to us, we can demand new service & that’s what this is. #AbolishThePolice in favor of that new service”

A nuanced explanation of brand new paint on #BLMPlaza

Night before #MarchOnWashington #MOW2020 #DCProtests htt...
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[29-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Audrey#7852
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pardons-alice-johnson-praised-republican-convention-night/story?id=72686751 Teaspoon it's all PR

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Trump pardons Alice Johnson, who praised him at Republican conventi...
Kim Kardashian West had played a key role in Alice Johnson's release two years ago, before Johnson was pardoned Friday by President Donald Trump.
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[29-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Audrey#7852
This is all a tactic to look good in the eyes of people of color and get some votes, who is going to fall for this?


[29-Aug-20 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well yeah, she praises his name on live tv and tells people to vote for him, and he gives her a pardon for money laundering


[29-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you scratch my back and I 'll scratch yours


[29-Aug-20 12:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m sure he has a few more of these quid pro quos lined up


[29-Aug-20 01:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/514243-fda-expands-use-of-remdesivir-as-covid-19-treatment

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FDA expands use of remdesivir as COVID-19 treatment
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) late Friday evening announced it was allowing the drug remdesivir to be used for all patients hospitalized with the coronavirus.
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[29-Aug-20 01:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/514135-pompeo-approves-plans-to-halt-aid-to-ethiopia-over-nile-dam-dispute

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Pompeo approves plans to halt aid to Ethiopia over Nile dam dispute
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has approved plans to halt some U.S. aid to Ethiopia, Foreign Policy reported on Friday.
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[29-Aug-20 01:10 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/ComradeBobcat/status/1290875204244127745/photo/1 This reminds me of this

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MORE 👏 ENVIRONMENTALLY 👏 CONSCIOUS 👏 WAR 👏 CRIMES 👏
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[29-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Environment friendly bullets


[29-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Audrey#7852
Imagine you're still in prison for sharing a blunt or growing weed when it was illegal 20 years ago. A brony's making a special offer here https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1297959687573262336

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Purple #DefundPolice Tinker (@prpltnkr)
https://twitter.com/prpltnkr/status/1297959687573262336
Step 1: Donate at least to @BailFundNetwork's Emergency Rapid Response Fund as linked from https://t.co/PBwGNNhAFr
Step 2: Check your email for a donation receipt.
Step 3: Forward said receipt to PRPLTNKR@gmail.com. I'll ask for the mailing address.

US domestic shipping is f...
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[29-Aug-20 01:26 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297314279230541824 Trump supporter in kevlar and combat suit threatening a journalist with a teargas canister.

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Alan swinney tells @IwriteOK to move, he doesn’t, the two stare down https://t.co/y0CyBCeZbw
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[29-Aug-20 01:50 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
These people just preparing for civil war


[29-Aug-20 01:55 PM] wren#0114
no thank you


[29-Aug-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they had nails in their sheilds for ramming


[29-Aug-20 01:59 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297316649205264384

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The trump supporters had nails in their shields https://t.co/8WDnWF8ajP
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[29-Aug-20 02:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297316755333738496

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Sergio Olmos (@MrOlmos)
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297316755333738496
Trump supporter/conservative protester hits BLM protestor with shield, to note: the shields have nails in them https://t.co/eoAyhF5Lev
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[29-Aug-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/_RyanBecker/status/1299483850997858304

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Ryan Becker (@_RyanBecker)
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Trump almost trips walking up stairs to his rally event tonight https://t.co/TgKhRJfgW3
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[29-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
how old is trump and biden?


[29-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Opponent#3498
Biden's in his 80ies I think. Trump is 67, but with really unhealthy living.


[29-Aug-20 02:18 PM] Opponent#3498
re: nails in shields, I don't think anyone bothered to inspect makeshift shield before like this. So it's impossible to prove this isn't common. And the guy doing the pushing on the vid does not, in fact, have them anyway.


[29-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Opponent#3498
blame them for what they do if and when they do it, don't try to invent stuff. A weak argument reduces the overall strength, not add to it.


[29-Aug-20 02:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
trump is 74, biden is 77


[29-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Opponent#3498
...well, there you go.


[29-Aug-20 02:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as for nails, they still cause damage if people are hit with them whether intentional or not, home made tools should be inspected better if nail damage is unintentional


[29-Aug-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's easy to hammer the end mostly flat if they're too long


[29-Aug-20 02:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pointing out the nails would also come up in court if a lawsuit happened, so that is actually an important detail

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[29-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
I grew up on a farm making dumb shit enough


[29-Aug-20 02:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
You don't want nails to unintentionally snag on things.

Unless you do.


[29-Aug-20 02:33 PM] Opponent#3498
well, if it's actionable somehow, then sure, this is useful.


[29-Aug-20 02:38 PM] Opponent#3498
just wanna make sure these reveals don't turn into 'Secretary of State records a vid where he's not supposed to' kind of sensation.


[29-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
aw fuck me


[29-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/mitte/live-blog-zehntausende-zur-corona-leugner-demo-in-berlin-polizei-einsatz

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Live-Blog: Gruppe legt Box-Bandagen an, Barrikaden und Festnahmen b...
Das Oberverwaltungsgericht hat entschieden: Die von mehreren Initiativen für den 29. August geplanten Versammlungen gegen die Corona-Politik von Bund und Ländern können stattfinden. Die Polizei steht mit einem Großaufgebot bereit. Alle Infos hier im B.Z.-Live-Blog.
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[29-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
AFD + misc. nationalists + anti-vaxers all decided to have an anti-mask concentration today


[29-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Starting at like 3AM and only broken up like an hour ago


[29-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tens of thousands


[29-Aug-20 02:48 PM] Teaspoon#9532
(Berlin)


[29-Aug-20 02:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:isee:


[29-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-Aug-20 02:50 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems like they went through the whole center of the city


[29-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Opponent#3498
🇫 's in chat.


[29-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
if nothing comes off it I guess they weren't _wrong_, I remember discussing Berlin's anti-mask thing with someone a week ago or so, and they said there was no legitimate need for them anymore as corona was basicly gone (for now).


[29-Aug-20 02:53 PM] Opponent#3498
if they _were_ wrong... Well.


[29-Aug-20 03:00 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's been increasing over the last month


[29-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Berlin was pretty much spared since the beginning, but as restrictions lifted and mentality changed elsewhere in the country and people started moving around between cities more...


[29-Aug-20 03:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Welcome to florida


[29-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/29/a-dictator-on-downersslow-motion-mass-hysteria-at-the-republican-convention/

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A dictator on downers: Slow-motion mass hysteria at the RNC
Donald Trump's speech was depressing and soulless, even for him. He can taste doom coming, and he doesn't like it
https://media.salon.com/2020/08/donald-trump-0828207.jpg


[29-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
lul what an article,so many emotions inside


[29-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It ain't over 'till it's over


[29-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Thinking you've won already is a great first step to ensure a loss, and getting your side to think you're losing is a great way to activate them to prevent it

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[29-Aug-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
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Certain Lives Matter
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[29-Aug-20 05:37 PM] byte[]#2610
juxtaposition


[29-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cringe


[29-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Keep in mind that's a bone in the girl's hair


[29-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Which is a common old time caricature of african blacks

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[29-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The truck isn't running over children, it's running over _niggers_


[29-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
This is Trump's base

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[29-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297339096910532611

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Sergio Olmos (@MrOlmos)
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Here’s the moment @IwriteOK was hit by a baton in the hand https://t.co/q4AHoTd16J
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[29-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The core that will vote for him no matter what


[29-Aug-20 05:41 PM] Crow#5457
trump supporter attacking reporter with baton


[29-Aug-20 05:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Read the thread


[29-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was only after the fascists left that the police called it an illegal assembly


[29-Aug-20 05:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Had to change uniforms


[29-Aug-20 05:58 PM] wren#0114
>this is trumps base


[29-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Serval#4825
The electorate isn’t loyal, just look at how a different party takes over the legislative and then the executive in every economic recession or crisis regardless of whether the incumbent(s) actually caused it.


[29-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Audrey#7852
But let's hope the base of Biden being more loyal than Trump's


[29-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Audrey#7852
They are just violent. more violent and more hateful than BLM


[29-Aug-20 06:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Why are they protesting for? What is the reason behind this? The candidate and party they elected is in power.


[29-Aug-20 07:00 PM] Audrey#7852
They aren't subjects of police brutality. They're like, a pro-trump militia, with helmets, gasmasks, melee weapons and you know they're not pacifists


[29-Aug-20 07:05 PM] wren#0114
they're not burning cities


[29-Aug-20 07:07 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MarkDStrauss/status/1299234107424202752

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@EmilyGorcenski The same right-wing pundits who are rallying around Rittenhouse were completely losing their shit last year when Antifa protesters were throwing vegan coconut milkshakes.
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[29-Aug-20 07:11 PM] wren#0114
what is that supposed to mean


[29-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
it means that they support a dude shooting people but hate it when someone's throwing milkshakes at people


[29-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1299232425101361152

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I’m reading the probably cause affadavit in the Rittenhouse case and some things stick out.

First, he was out armed after curfew.

Second, the object thrown at him was a plastic bag, not a molotov cocktail. It didn’t hit him.
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[29-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
oh, I thought this was linked here


[29-Aug-20 07:15 PM] wren#0114
or just support people not attacking ppl for no reason


[29-Aug-20 07:15 PM] Crow#5457
it's a reply to a thread going over the events detailed in official court documents


[29-Aug-20 07:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1299233364721971200

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Extremily Gorcenski (@EmilyGorcenski)
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His first victim was unarmed and was trying to disarm Rittenhouse, who was carrying his weapon irresponsibly and had it in a low ready position
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[29-Aug-20 07:17 PM] Opponent#3498
among the simps for both sides there's a reasonable voice. 
```He was being aggressive waking up on people and to be fair he should be smart enough to realize Antifa is abusing the “PRESS” outfits and causing this kind of aggression b/c ppl don’t know who is legit. Have some common sense. Don’t stand or walk in the middle of melees.```
The reporter didn't need to be in the face of the enemy group, he was basicly baiting them. And the bite-sized chunks still probably don't tell the story properly, as usual.


[29-Aug-20 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
... who?


[29-Aug-20 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
what?


[29-Aug-20 07:18 PM] Opponent#3498
Sergio Olmos, that list of vids.


[29-Aug-20 07:18 PM] Crow#5457
and how is that relevant at all? how is walking by people "baiting" them?


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Opponent#3498
walking by in the middle of a melee.


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
it wasn't a melee at the time


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
then it devolved into one


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Opponent#3498
certainly does look like one even in the bite-sized chunks.


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] wren#0114
since when does press push into the lines of protests


[29-Aug-20 07:19 PM] Crow#5457
why does that matter?


[29-Aug-20 07:20 PM] wren#0114
because this is dumb, and there wasn't anything wrong done on either side anyways


[29-Aug-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
the point of the press is to document events


[29-Aug-20 07:20 PM] Crow#5457
documenting events at safe distances doesn't really capture the whole picture


[29-Aug-20 07:21 PM] wren#0114
press is free so it's not a big deal to me that he was pressing up close


[29-Aug-20 07:21 PM] Crow#5457
like there's no reason to hit someone who's just standing there doing nothing, everything said so far seems to be some attempt to justify violence


[29-Aug-20 07:21 PM] wren#0114
hit?


[29-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
well, some fat dude hit this guy with a baton. Somehow produced blood idk


[29-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297339096910532611

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Here’s the moment @IwriteOK was hit by a baton in the hand https://t.co/q4AHoTd16J
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[29-Aug-20 07:22 PM] Opponent#3498
didn't know blunt force trauma can do it that easily.


[29-Aug-20 07:22 PM] wren#0114
oh the baton thing


[29-Aug-20 07:23 PM] wren#0114
all of this is stupid


[29-Aug-20 07:23 PM] wren#0114
riots big dum


[29-Aug-20 07:23 PM] Crow#5457
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[29-Aug-20 07:30 PM] wren#0114
I'm more upset about this one than the "press" one https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1297340729576976385

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Trump/conservative supporter takes baseball bat to the snack van https://t.co/1pNGuO22qe
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[29-Aug-20 07:31 PM] wren#0114
https://twitter.com/Turbo23600013/status/1297342198485311488

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@MrOlmos Portland is Twitter in real life.
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[29-Aug-20 07:31 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah this is uncalled for. Also, an excellent point there.


[29-Aug-20 07:32 PM] wren#0114
stop the riots 👏


[29-Aug-20 07:34 PM] wren#0114
if portland is twitter in real life, what happens when the verified accounts join in


[29-Aug-20 07:35 PM] wren#0114
imagine wendys v burger king in the riots


[29-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Serval#4825
Communist revolution vs. the establishment


[29-Aug-20 07:38 PM] wren#0114
*with the support of the establishment


[29-Aug-20 07:41 PM] Opponent#3498
well BLM core demands have little to do with economic or even societal structure so probably not


[29-Aug-20 07:41 PM] Serval#4825
There’s no party of the people. If you play the game you’ll just be perpetually disappointed


[29-Aug-20 07:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1299233927480176641

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As Rittenhouse flees the scene of a murder, while still armed, people try to intercept him, presumably to prevent him from getting away with or committing more murder.

He shoots at and misses one person, and then kills a second person trying to stop him from shooting more.
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[29-Aug-20 07:43 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1299234178651901952

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He injures a third victim, who is approaching him with his hands in the air
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[29-Aug-20 07:44 PM] wren#0114
>jumps over the defendant

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[29-Aug-20 07:45 PM] wren#0114
and the last guy was faking surrender

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[29-Aug-20 07:47 PM] wren#0114
it really sucks that people died. I hate this and I hate the riots.


[29-Aug-20 07:47 PM] wren#0114
self-defense remains an inalienable right


[29-Aug-20 07:48 PM] Crow#5457
he was there illegally with the gun to begin with


[29-Aug-20 07:48 PM] wren#0114
if you're arguing that, then that applies for every one of the protestors as well


[29-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
and you don't get to say you were just defending yourself when you already shot someone and people are trying to stop you from shooting other people


[29-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
it doesn't work like that


[29-Aug-20 07:49 PM] Crow#5457
it never worked like that


[29-Aug-20 07:49 PM] wren#0114
and even more for the felon holding that handgun


[29-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Crow#5457
"look I brought a gun to school, oh no that guy's running at me to take away my gun \*blam\*, oh no, 2 more people are charging at me to take away my gun \*blam\* \*blam\*"


[29-Aug-20 07:50 PM] wren#0114
bro, if he didn't shoot, he'd be an asphalt pancake. I've seen what riotors have done to innocent drivers before


[29-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
sigh. Defending a guy who's cause I disagree with in a situation that doesn't concern me has never been so much fun.


[29-Aug-20 07:50 PM] Opponent#3498
let the courts decide. And in the meantime, figure whether a criminal or suspected criminal have the rights, including right of self-defense. You can't have it conditional.


[29-Aug-20 07:54 PM] Opponent#3498
the important thing to note here is, by the time all of this went down, while he _did_ commit a crime (regardless of due process, until the court says so blah blah, he did), _the crowd was not aware of it_. They attacked him as just another citizen.


[29-Aug-20 07:54 PM] Crow#5457
uhh, that happened after he shot the first dude who threw a plastic bag at him


[29-Aug-20 07:54 PM] wren#0114
the one who was charging at him for no reason?


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
he apparently fired a "warning shot" at the guy who threw a plastic bag at him, which caused the guy to move in to try and disarm him


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1299232425101361152

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I’m reading the probably cause affadavit in the Rittenhouse case and some things stick out.

First, he was out armed after curfew.

Second, the object thrown at him was a plastic bag, not a molotov cocktail. It didn’t hit him.
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[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
you missed a tweet


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] wren#0114
I haven't seen full view vid of what happened with that shot


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah i can't blame the crowd so much considering how he escalated the fight


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
linked it earlier


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] wren#0114
if he moved in to disarm, that's a complete violation


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
the kid started it


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Serval#4825
If they abolish the police then there’s nobody to enforce this nonsense.


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
the KID SHOT AT HIM


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
like wtf?


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Crow#5457
THE KID SHOT FIRST


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] Serval#4825
So it’s a good thing.


[29-Aug-20 07:55 PM] wren#0114
how about he back the hell off instead of charging more at someone with a gun


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
how about he not fucking shoot at people???


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
???????????


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
he didn't shoot first. He shot after being faced with a threat of having his weapon taken and turned on him.


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] wren#0114
don't assault someone, don't get shot


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
he fired a warning shot


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
HE. FIRED. A. WARNING. SHOT. FIRST.


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
he FIRED FIRST


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He could have fired a warning shot instead if his intent was to protect himself


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] wren#0114
what is that supposed to mean


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
he started shooting at people first


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Crow#5457
and you're saying people can't disarm an active shooter?


[29-Aug-20 07:56 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 apparently that counts as 'shooting at people' now.


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
he did fire a warning shot after a dude threw a fucking plastic bag at him


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] wren#0114
warning shots are stupid. shoot first like you mean it when the situation requires it


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, but at least he wouldn't have been arrested for homicide


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
he _did_ fire a warning shot.


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Crow#5457
and people are acting like he's some little angel who was only defending himself when he escalated first


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] Opponent#3498
it didn't help. It failed to deter the attacker and he was forced to defend himself.


[29-Aug-20 07:57 PM] byte[]#2610
oh god not this shit again


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] wren#0114
violently disarming a person is sufficient for self defense


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
so it's alright to shoot at someone, then shoot them if they try to defend themselves, got it


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just don't show up to the riot in the first place


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] wren#0114
again, I haven't seen the full view vid of the first shooting


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Crow#5457
every shooter ever is justified in shooting people now


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] Opponent#3498
also it's not clear if it was his shots btw. There were 8 shots fired at the scene. Are all of them his?


[29-Aug-20 07:58 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm tired of having to point out to people how this could have been easily avoided


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] wren#0114
if the rioters hadn't rioted, same thing


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Different from an individual deciding to go to another state


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 this is something I absolutely agree with. He shouldn't have been there. But, as long as  he was...


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, just call protesters rioters to justify shooting them


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
because that makes sense


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] wren#0114
OR if those specific rioters hadn't pursued him when he was fleeing from the first guy and trying to not engage


[29-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
there wasn't even any rioting going on in the videos btw


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] wren#0114
he didn't shoot protestors, he shot only the ones who assaulted him


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
after he shot first


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
like holy shit


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
Crow you're being deliberately bad faith rn btw. The guy was being pursued by a trash bag dude. He was running away. The claims that he was picking a sniper position were laughable. He _tried_ to get him off his back non-violently. It failed. He fired a warning shot. It failed.


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's the point of this whole conversation


[29-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Opponent#3498
options? Give up the gun and let himself be shot?


[29-Aug-20 08:01 PM] Crow#5457
how the hell is anything that I said bad faith? did you not read the court affadavit?


[29-Aug-20 08:01 PM] wren#0114
there was rioting in those vids, they were destroying the used car lot


[29-Aug-20 08:01 PM] Opponent#3498
Crow, I described the scene in full. What are the options where any non-lethal response at the suspected attempt at your life failed?


[29-Aug-20 08:01 PM] wren#0114
by "they" I don't mean the actual peaceful protestors


[29-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
in the situation where you are _not_ committing a crime btw.


[29-Aug-20 08:02 PM] wren#0114
I mean the ones who have been burning stuff and who aren't being stopped or even addressed


[29-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Opponent#3498
because if we take curfiew into account then _everyone_ there is a criminal by default. That would just distract unnessesarily.


[29-Aug-20 08:02 PM] Crow#5457
so why didn't he keep running?


[29-Aug-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
because the guy was closing in. Shitty cardio, dunno. Doesn't look fat. I was wondering it myself.


[29-Aug-20 08:03 PM] wren#0114
why did rosenbaum keep chasing?


[29-Aug-20 08:03 PM] Opponent#3498
legs are typically the best self-defense tool you have.


[29-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Crow#5457
because he had a gun he was handling improperly


[29-Aug-20 08:04 PM] Opponent#3498
but, we're assuming that failed this time.


[29-Aug-20 08:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Tbh i could care less what the specifics of a single homicide incident are


[29-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is...


[29-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
easy to fixate on and forget the big picture.


[29-Aug-20 08:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What i care about is that right-wing militias are crossing state lines to partake in protest conflicts and that this will escalate violence


[29-Aug-20 08:05 PM] wren#0114
big thonk


[29-Aug-20 08:05 PM] Opponent#3498
well, Twitter already got rebuked for not suppressing an obvious call for violence that's against the TOS


[29-Aug-20 08:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
People will use their own view of the Kenosha incident to justify their own opinion on how the protests should be handled and it's not gonna be pretty


[29-Aug-20 08:06 PM] Opponent#3498
we'll see if it matters. And the election... Is drawing ever closer.


[29-Aug-20 08:06 PM] Crow#5457
you don't think people are justifying murder when it's "their side" doing it is something that should be discussed?


[29-Aug-20 08:06 PM] wren#0114
self-defense is not murder


[29-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@wren https://twitter.com/AntifaWatch2/status/1298649108585099264

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Great video sync of multiple angles of first self defense shooting by #kylerittenhouse. You can clearly see the chase, molotov get thrown, and then the attempted theft of his rifle.

#Kenosha #KenoshaRiots #KenoshaProtests https://t.co/yN0RnFl2dO
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[29-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, just fire a warning shot first, then you're in the clear


[29-Aug-20 08:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1298489882566955009

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Kenosha https://t.co/n1TyYzT99u
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[29-Aug-20 08:07 PM] wren#0114
I'd shoot before being mob slammed to a pulp


[29-Aug-20 08:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Self defense is murder, just that it is legally justified


[29-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
no, I don't really want to go there.


[29-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u already did


[29-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
okay, then I don't want to commit to it.


[29-Aug-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
we already went over how he ran away after the initial shooting, that's when people started following him to warn other people that he was shooting


[29-Aug-20 08:09 PM] Crow#5457
yesterday


[29-Aug-20 08:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kill a protester and others will get really angry or scared at the incident -- we have to factor in the "mob flow" thing here


[29-Aug-20 08:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It becomes hard to think logically and quickly in a situation like this where gunshots have been fired


[29-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Opponent#3498
whatever this is. Let the courts decide. If police decides to throw this guy under the bus, it'll weaken their support from the militia types and help BLM movement by fracturing their opposition. If not, the BLM pitch will only increase and draw in more bystanders.


[29-Aug-20 08:11 PM] wren#0114
>someone just shot someone, fleeing the scene
>run after them to warn others
>decide it's a good idea to assault someone you see has a gun and who just shot someone
>???
>get shot

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[29-Aug-20 08:11 PM] Crow#5457
once again, that logic allows you to justify school shootings


[29-Aug-20 08:11 PM] wren#0114
excuse me?


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They might have decided to take a gamble and run to disarm the shooter before he could cause more death


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
everything you caw wren can justify school shootings.


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Opponent#3498
after all, school shootings is the go-to boogeyman of anti-gun crowds. Might as well drop it.


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Crow#5457
you shoot someone, then people try to stop you, they got shot too


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They didn't know if the shooter was intent on terrorism or self-defense


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
no crow


[29-Aug-20 08:12 PM] wren#0114
~~they could have been more effective if instead of flying stomp, the guy did a leap to grapple and got between him and the gun~~


[29-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its someone attacking you-u shoot them-people try to attack you again and they got shot too


[29-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, obviously they went about stopping him the wrong way, you don't attack someone with a weapon unarmed unless you neutralize the weapon


[29-Aug-20 08:13 PM] wren#0114
that's bad faith, opp


[29-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Crow#5457
but they were trying to stop an active shooter who they thought was going to shoot more people


[29-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. I said t wice already I wanted to shut up. Better do it.

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[29-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Opponent#3498
you have fun with this.


[29-Aug-20 08:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Regardless, we have to consider why people brought guns to a protest in the first place


[29-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
to protect themselves from angry mob


[29-Aug-20 08:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The police is there for them in that case


[29-Aug-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
the kid himself was apparently a police LARPer


[29-Aug-20 08:16 PM] Crow#5457
he'd go to summer camps that teach you how to shoot like a cop (why those exist is anyone's guess)


[29-Aug-20 08:16 PM] wren#0114
that's a problem?


[29-Aug-20 08:16 PM] wren#0114
he's done firefighter stuff too


[29-Aug-20 08:16 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=daily

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Kyle Rittenhouse Was Working as a Lifeguard in Kenosha the Day of t...
Kyle Rittenhouse is a community lifeguard who was working in Kenosha the day of the shooting. This simple fact destroys the narrative being peddled by the mainstream media that he had “crossed state lines” to harm the rioters. In a statement by Rittenhouse’s legal team at Pier...
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[29-Aug-20 08:16 PM] wren#0114
and cleaned graffiti, sounds like he cares about his community


[29-Aug-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
and @Opponent, don't strawman me again


[29-Aug-20 08:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
All this protest situation was the fault of the police in the first place tbh -- it is always they who murder marginalized black people in the first place and refuse to admit they're wrong. All this situation could have been defused if a proper police reform package had been accepted and implemented, but it is still long overdue and tensions will reach a breaking point


[29-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a33809690/kenosha-shooting-17-year-old-militia/

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[29-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, it's really kenosha's law enforcement's fault


[29-Aug-20 08:18 PM] wren#0114
sure, why were they allowing car dealerships to be destroyed, why were they allowing businesses to be burned?

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[29-Aug-20 08:18 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow I won't. I retracted my statement. Please accept my apologies. This isn't a hill I'm dying on.


[29-Aug-20 08:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Wow you guys are really out here trying to defend Rittenhouse as self defense and then disparaging the protesters who got arrested for "trying to incite a riot" by being caught with defensive gear like helmets and shields? Die on that hill.


[29-Aug-20 08:19 PM] wren#0114
who?


[29-Aug-20 08:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
never said anything about arresting peaceful protestors


[29-Aug-20 08:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Well why not?


[29-Aug-20 08:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's my point


[29-Aug-20 08:20 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ever since the end of the New Deal, American elites and their state apparatus routinely refuse to acknowlege how deescalation and compromise with progressives will maintain their rule. It's just mind boggling how intransigent they are and justifies the notion that this will end in civil war in the future


[29-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
arresting peaceful protestors is bad


[29-Aug-20 08:20 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
killing people is worse


[29-Aug-20 08:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
true but he had no choice


[29-Aug-20 08:21 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The problem is too many people who want to break shit are aligning themselves with the peaceful protesters


[29-Aug-20 08:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
he crossed state lines with a gun he shouldn't even have had, fired the gun, killed a guy, shot and killed more people on the way out...and he had no choice?


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Wrong


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
literally everything he did was his choice


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
he got the gun from a friend in the state


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] wren#0114
irrelevant setup, the issue is he was pursued far beyond disengagement and continued to be pursued and actually assaulted


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that doesn't make it legal


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
it's been proven


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He shouldn't have a gun in the first place, he's below open carry age


[29-Aug-20 08:22 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
wrong again


[29-Aug-20 08:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Explain?


[29-Aug-20 08:23 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
look up your facts before spitting false opinions


[29-Aug-20 08:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
We have, which is why we're arguing with you


[29-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
> Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had.


[29-Aug-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Open carry is mostly prohibited in Illinois, his home state, and in Wisconsin the legal age for open carry is 18


[29-Aug-20 08:24 PM] wren#0114
that's not good, and he'll likely get charged for that


[29-Aug-20 08:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He committed a crime he could have easily chosen to avoid


[29-Aug-20 08:24 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would hate to live in your world where laws are false opinions


[29-Aug-20 08:24 PM] wren#0114
his self-defense actions are justified, when he was being actively attacked


[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
there is a difference between owning a gun and being allowed to carry one


[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] wren#0114
like wtf, was he supposed to hand over the gun and let himself get face smashed into the pavement


[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
@TiddySpurklez, you can just say "alright, I was wrong, sorry" instead of doubling down on your false claims


[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Generally speaking, yes wren

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[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] wren#0114
No.


[29-Aug-20 08:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he handed over the gun he probably wouldnt have gogtten face smashed into the pavement


[29-Aug-20 08:26 PM] wren#0114
I'd have thought that, but after many examples recently, that's not a reasonable assumption

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[29-Aug-20 08:27 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
What's worse is not that people here are justifying what he did out of self-defense. Rather, it seems that many people are even praising him and holding him up as a martyr figure against what they seem as an unprecedented encroachment of communist agitation upon their reality


[29-Aug-20 08:27 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's amazing, it's almost like you give up some of your rights when you commit a crime


[29-Aug-20 08:27 PM] wren#0114
the communists indeed need to screw off

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[29-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Crow#5457
there was that video of a dude who crashed his truck after nearly running someone over where protesters just forcefully sat him down on the pavement and didn't touch him otherwise, then some random raging dude came in and kicked him in the back of the head after the others tried to push him out


[29-Aug-20 08:28 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
When there's not even a proper communist movement in the United States to begin with. BLM is petit-bourgeois and liberal


[29-Aug-20 08:28 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
(turns out in that instance those two had been fighting elsewhere and brought the fight to the protest, just for context)


[29-Aug-20 08:28 PM] wren#0114
I don't hold him as a martyr, but I'm sure as heck not going to stand by and let a clear self-defense case be pushed as a "mass shooting"


[29-Aug-20 08:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Call me next when there's a general strike and the striking workers arm themselves to protect the picket lines


[29-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Crow#5457
I haven't seen anyone calling it a mass shooting, though now that I think about it, it probably is technically a mass shooting


[29-Aug-20 08:29 PM] wren#0114
this guy? they repeatedly beat him, and called him a white supremist, and he didn't run anyone over

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[29-Aug-20 08:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Because i really don't think the US populace is class conscious


[29-Aug-20 08:30 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
"nearly running someone over"


[29-Aug-20 08:30 PM] Crow#5457
uhh, you can see that one guy having a go at the dude on the ground, they push him off multiple times


[29-Aug-20 08:30 PM] wren#0114
after he was trying to stop people from abusing a (from what I know) trans person outside his truck

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[29-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wonder why protestors blocking streets and not government buildings


[29-Aug-20 08:31 PM] Opponent#3498
```it probably is technically a mass shooting```
yeah. The term's so broad it's meaningless now.


[29-Aug-20 08:31 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
according to the way those statistics are tabulated yes


[29-Aug-20 08:31 PM] wren#0114
well they should have tried harder, because he ended up unconscious and bleeding from the head for no reason

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[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
what do you mean "broad", multiple people being shot has always been the definition of a mass shooting


[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
These riots have become unacceptable.


[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's the idea


[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, they should've kept an eye on him, at one point it looked like he was leaving, but then he came running back in with a flying kick


[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Man i could kill to see some US working class citizens outright seize company buildings and administer them collectively for the movement like in 1919.


[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] wren#0114
it's not even about blm at this point

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[29-Aug-20 08:32 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
As I said before, too many people looking to just attack others are lumping themselves with the peaceful group

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[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And quite often turning out to be white supremacists when they're caught


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ooh random burning cars, that totally proves it was BLM


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And why are there people who are looking to cause violence?


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] wren#0114
what other riots are causing fires right now?


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] Crow#5457
we already have multiple instances of white supremacists going into protests to start destroying shit


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
assfucks driving in from out of town to incite riots?


[29-Aug-20 08:33 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yep


[29-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@WingbeatPony can u explain wtf is white supermacist?


[29-Aug-20 08:34 PM] Crow#5457
to argue that the entire protest is the sum of a few bad actors is inaccurate at best and bad faith at worst


[29-Aug-20 08:34 PM] wren#0114
then tell me a plan to stop the violent bad actors


[29-Aug-20 08:35 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The belief that white races are superior to others, in a nutshell


[29-Aug-20 08:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Someone who's a racist, defends an ideal of whiteness as superior to other racial stereotypes, and is willing to use violence to eliminate ethnic minorities from their desired territory


[29-Aug-20 08:35 PM] wren#0114
because they're coming from blm protests and they are escalating destruction


[29-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and you think that anyone who against BLM movement or protests or vote for trump is a white supermacist?


[29-Aug-20 08:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to those of other races and thus should dominate them. White supremacy has roots in the now-discredited doctrine of scientific racism and often relies on pseudoscientific arguments, and was a key justification for Colonialism. It underlies a spectrum of contemporary movements including neo-Confederates and neo-Nazism.


[29-Aug-20 08:36 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> and you think that anyone who against BLM movement or protests or vote for trum is a white supermacist?
@Smug Trixie  no, but that is usually the tendency


[29-Aug-20 08:36 PM] Serval#4825
I like trees

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[29-Aug-20 08:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I *know* that people who have been caught starting stuff or trying to start stuff have been self-proclaimed white supremacists.


[29-Aug-20 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
This isn't inclusive, but it is undeniable


[29-Aug-20 08:37 PM] wren#0114
those people are bad


[29-Aug-20 08:37 PM] wren#0114
and the people who burn and loot are bad, and are actually doing it on scale


[29-Aug-20 08:37 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I also recognize that there is a much broader group of people who either refuse to acknowledge the problem, are aware but indifferent, or tacitly condone the actions of such groups


[29-Aug-20 08:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Some figures may oppose BLM and support Trump out of their own concerns, yes, but the majority of people who support Trump and the current system of American police have downright racist justifications for doing so, even if they don't admit to it


[29-Aug-20 08:38 PM] wren#0114
that's bad faith


[29-Aug-20 08:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
The president is one such person and has repeatedly demonstrated this in word and in action


[29-Aug-20 08:38 PM] Crow#5457
@wren, typically that would be the job of the police, but the police have been pretty lax on challenging the actual rioting that's resulting in looting and property damage, only going after the peaceful protesters when "unlawful assemblies" are arbitrarily declared on people not doing anything wrong


[29-Aug-20 08:39 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I've been called racist stuff by people on the BLM side of things


[29-Aug-20 08:39 PM] Crow#5457
wait, what is bad faith?


[29-Aug-20 08:39 PM] wren#0114
"trump supporters are racist"


[29-Aug-20 08:39 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
100% of the archetypical "trumpist boomer" base is objectively racist towards discontented black people, lowers class hispanics, and occasionally the Chinese


[29-Aug-20 08:39 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Seeking refuge in authority, when the authority you're citing is spouting racist garbage and condoning the actions of hate groups, is far from innocent


[29-Aug-20 08:40 PM] wren#0114
police need to be allowed to do their jobs to reign in the destructive actors and allow the peaceful protestors to be


[29-Aug-20 08:40 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The fact you try to spout otherwise bothers me greatly


[29-Aug-20 08:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
but wren, what if the police *are* the destructive actors?


[29-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a police officers job is not to execute people resisting arrest


[29-Aug-20 08:40 PM] Crow#5457
the problem has always been that the police aren't going after the ones doing the destruction, only the peaceful protesters


[29-Aug-20 08:41 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The police will never support the protestors, even the peaceful ones. Their job is punishing the proletariat and lumpenproletariat for resistance, always has been


[29-Aug-20 08:41 PM] Crow#5457
and implying that a lot of trump supporter are racist isn't in and of itself bad faith, it's only bad faith if there's no evidence to back up the implications


[29-Aug-20 08:41 PM] wren#0114
a police officer's job isn't to get killed in the line of duty when someone resists arrest, grapples with them, resists tazors, and reaches into unviewable areas which actually have weapons


[29-Aug-20 08:41 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll be honest, one of the things that needs to be reformed in the way this country is policed isn't just abolishing qualified immunity for police, I think we *also* need to decriminalize resisting arrest


[29-Aug-20 08:41 PM] wren#0114
or


[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] wren#0114
how about obeying police when they arrest you?

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[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
didn't cops end up arresting around 70 people for causing destruction recently, Crow?


[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
You can't obey the police if they give conflicting or impossible orders


[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Read up on how the police as an institution historically came to be and you'll notice it has a serious class element to it


[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Especially because the law and government are massively skewed towards the ruling classes


[29-Aug-20 08:42 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, they're arresting people identified after the fact, they aren't going out to try and limit destruction of property on the street, which is what wren is concerned about


[29-Aug-20 08:43 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The process isn't instant.


[29-Aug-20 08:43 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@WingbeatPony police is usually asking for two things-get on the ground and stop resisting,not that hard to follow tbh


[29-Aug-20 08:43 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Not to mention that if someone is panicking, under the influence of substances, or acting instinctively, resistance should be *expected* from someone being arrested


[29-Aug-20 08:43 PM] wren#0114
they should be arresting people who destroy and arresting people who assault, and those people should not be immediately released back


[29-Aug-20 08:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
police shoudl be expected to deescalate the resisting offender


[29-Aug-20 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If the due process of law was fair, this would be defendable


[29-Aug-20 08:44 PM] wren#0114
so that peaceful protestors can continue without this horrible association to heinous crime


[29-Aug-20 08:44 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But no. Black people and the lumpenproletariat are actively sought by the prison industrial complex for slave labor


[29-Aug-20 08:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's not even that


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Simply having bodies in a for-profit prison is profitable


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Our moral duty in this instance is to overthrow the state and its apparatuses of repression, *by force*


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Otherwise things will never change


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
half the deaths caused by police towards a "resisting" party could have been avoided by simple de-escalation and carefully talking the suspect down.


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
By force leads to people like Kyle coming out


[29-Aug-20 08:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
instead of full forcve grapple wrestling followed by a tazer


[29-Aug-20 08:46 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
the cycle won't end this way


[29-Aug-20 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Kyle was not trying to overthrow the state, he was trying to uphold it

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[29-Aug-20 08:46 PM] wren#0114
you can majorly heck off with the commie revolution.


[29-Aug-20 08:46 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Getting kids involved in junior police corps or whatever it was is what gets kids like kyle coming out


[29-Aug-20 08:46 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I have a thousand reasons to defend my revolutionary instincts

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[29-Aug-20 08:47 PM] wren#0114
and I have a thousand reasons to defend my Country


[29-Aug-20 08:47 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
What's wrong with people wanting to protect their country


[29-Aug-20 08:47 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Namely that the world seeing so much power concentrated in the hands of a tiny number of billionaires is not justifiable in any way


[29-Aug-20 08:47 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Probably the same thing that was wrong every other time this happened: What they define as "their country" goes against the constitution and modern law


[29-Aug-20 08:47 PM] wren#0114
look into the central banks then


[29-Aug-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The billionaires control the central banks, what is your excuse?


[29-Aug-20 08:48 PM] wren#0114
no, the *trillionares* control the central banks


[29-Aug-20 08:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yes, thanks for the correction, let's overthrow the trillionaires then

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[29-Aug-20 08:49 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
how do you overthrow someone who can basically hire a private army?


[29-Aug-20 08:49 PM] wren#0114
I don't have a problem with trillionare owning that amount of money. I have a major problem with them owning the central banks for countries and extracting money supra-nationally


[29-Aug-20 08:49 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
get a bigger army?


[29-Aug-20 08:49 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The main crux of my argument is that allowing humanity to fester under this fucked up, inefficient, corrupt and wasteful socio-economic system is cruelty


[29-Aug-20 08:49 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
the side with the most money wins that arguement

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[29-Aug-20 08:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe


[29-Aug-20 08:50 PM] Crow#5457
uh, there isn't a trillionaire yet


[29-Aug-20 08:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and jeff bezos is only worth a trillion in stocks, he doesnt actually have 1trill


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
what? jeff bezos is worth $200 billion


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe they will win that argument once they notice that the mass of bodies who produce and reproduce their luxury has realized they live in slavery and resist


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
and yeah, most of that is in stocks


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wait really? i guess i remembered deatails wrong


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
But this would not be a war they can exactly win -- they depend on the working class to survive whereas the working class does not depend on them as parasites


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my bad


[29-Aug-20 08:51 PM] Crow#5457
the funny thing was that even the american revolution was funded by wealthy landowners


[29-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Crow#5457
I don't think there's ever been a revolution that wasn't funded by someone


[29-Aug-20 08:52 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And what do you do to a parasite feeding on your bodily fluids? You remove it


[29-Aug-20 08:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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fuck you socialists you're next
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[29-Aug-20 08:53 PM] Crow#5457
more of the glorification of a shooter, it's like these people are trying to encourage copycats


[29-Aug-20 08:53 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Correct me if i'm wrong, but US citizens and the world population overall are seeing diminishing support for capitalism as a system as time passes


[29-Aug-20 08:54 PM] wren#0114
we'll see.


[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-trust/capitalism-seen-doing-more-harm-than-good-in-global-survey-idUSKBN1ZJ0CW

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Capitalism seen doing 'more harm than good' in global survey
A majority of people around the world believe capitalism in its current form is doing more harm than good, a survey found ahead of this week's Davos meeting of business and political leaders.
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[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] wren#0114
better dead than red


[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok


[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
which red?


[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] Crow#5457
republican red, obviously


[29-Aug-20 08:55 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You'll be dead anyway, the elites don't have a use for you individually


[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] wren#0114
not if I bug out to forest first

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[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nah those will be burned down by then


[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
in america, it's only millennials who have a majority who no longer support capitalism, I think the overall sentiment is still a slight majority in favor of capitalism


[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
gotta harvest those trees for capital gains!


[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
though not supporting capitalism doesn't mean that they support socialism either, people are more against socialism than they are for capitalism


[29-Aug-20 08:56 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The numbers seem to be diminishing though, and most people would prefer a social democratic system of government (somehow believing that it wouldn't still be capitalism)


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Problem is, social democracy is hard to come by


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
well, that's the point, social democracy's about chaining up capitalism so much that it can't take over again


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m mroe for the finnish/scandinavian model


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
It's the exception under the system and often gets scuppered very quickly


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
the scandinavian model is social democracy


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
exactly


[29-Aug-20 08:57 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, "free market capitalism" is the thing that seems out of control - because it is, by definition


[29-Aug-20 08:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
capitalism isnt so bad as long as it;s chained to a wall and surrounded by a pit of flaming spikes


[29-Aug-20 08:58 PM] wren#0114

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[29-Aug-20 08:58 PM] wren#0114
hopefully people are realizing that polarization is gay


[29-Aug-20 08:59 PM] wren#0114
and that there's stuff in common that doesn't require extreme ideologies


[29-Aug-20 08:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I don't think the US is placed anywhere near the right place on this graph


[29-Aug-20 08:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whatever makes you sleep at night


[29-Aug-20 08:59 PM] jlun2#8758
restricted areas? :ponythinking:


[29-Aug-20 09:00 PM] wren#0114
restricted by Constitution and court precedents from it


[29-Aug-20 09:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
IMO the US is headed towards serious social convulsion and polarization will be unavoidable. Things did not deescalate after Reagan, and Trump's election is clear evidence of that


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
That a buffoon and swindler as Trump was even considered for the presidency is damning evidence of deep systemic rot in the American system


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
uh, socialist and libertarian aren't mutually exclusive


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] wren#0114
how?


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

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Libertarian socialism, also referred to as anarcho-socialism, anarchist socialism, free socialism, stateless socialism, socialist anarchism and socialist libertarianism, is an anti-authoritarian, anti-statist and libertarian political philosophy within the socialist movement w...


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Anarcho-communism, usually


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] wren#0114
you have to take more of my stuff to be able to give it to someone else


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] jlun2#8758
make things be created by bots


[29-Aug-20 09:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Revolutionaries won't be going after your apartment and car, don't worry

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[29-Aug-20 09:02 PM] wren#0114
they won't be going after my Constitution either, or consequences


[29-Aug-20 09:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You mean, freedom of speech and carrying of arms?


[29-Aug-20 09:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Those two are supported by communists lol


[29-Aug-20 09:03 PM] wren#0114
I mean overthrowing the gov


[29-Aug-20 09:03 PM] wren#0114
communism hasn't worked out so nicely, fam


[29-Aug-20 09:03 PM] wren#0114
I trust communism even less than ATF when it comes to gun rights


[29-Aug-20 09:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
RNC rhetoric aside, what's happening in the scandanavian model is pretty far from communism


[29-Aug-20 09:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Lenin makes a clear case for the forming of armed proletarian militias in order to overthrow the tyrannical state -- it's basically almost the same as what libertarians defend


[29-Aug-20 09:04 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, that's theoretically what the second amendment exists for to begin with


[29-Aug-20 09:04 PM] jlun2#8758
stalin ruined "communism"


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] wren#0114
sure, and I'll defend the Constitution against those who try to revolt with intent to shred it


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 well in practice they had to fight the germans, and then the whites, so the armed militias with elected leaders went the way of the dodo almost as soon as they appeared :twismug:


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] Crow#5457
but no one's revolting with the intent to shred it


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
venezuela tried socialism but never got off the ground ebcause outside countries fucked thme over via trade, and their government rotted them from the inside


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The point isn't to go after people's personal belongings and share them -- the point is to overthrow the bourgeoisie and their mechanisms of repression, abolish money itself, and remove the restrictions that are always out in place for people when they desire adequate housing, healthcare, food, water, and all that is necessary for a functioning society


[29-Aug-20 09:05 PM] wren#0114
I'll believe that when rule of law is the norm again


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] jlun2#8758
venezuela got resource cursed hard


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
venezuela's economic system ended up being more like state capitalism where the state was running corporations for profit


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 armed goones,after revolution he took away all guns that people had


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
because they were nationalizing beer companies

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[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] Crow#5457
why were they nationalizig beer companies? dunno lol


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] wren#0114
communism ends in totalitarianism


[29-Aug-20 09:06 PM] wren#0114
rather quickly I might add


[29-Aug-20 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Communism is not a state of affairs to be established to which reality will have to adjust itself. It's the *real movement intent on anolishing the present state of things*. 
It is not something that can be done by states or nations -- communism is a *class* movement and is inherently internationalist. Anti-nationalist, even


[29-Aug-20 09:07 PM] wren#0114
and i'm disgusted by it


[29-Aug-20 09:07 PM] Crow#5457
that's not exactly true, both cuba and vietnam have gotten less authoritarian over the decades


[29-Aug-20 09:07 PM] wren#0114
go build your own utopia, don't overthrow my Country


[29-Aug-20 09:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Your country will repress our movement inevitably


[29-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
but the USSR started out authoritarian and took it to its logical extreme with stalinism


[29-Aug-20 09:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Its dominance over the world depends on the present state of things. Sorry fam, but the US and all other nations like it will have to go


[29-Aug-20 09:08 PM] Crow#5457
there's never actually been a democratically elected "communist" government that wasn't immediately destabilized by the US


[29-Aug-20 09:08 PM] wren#0114
then I don't have anything to discuss with you


[29-Aug-20 09:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the us hasnt done much for me lately, i have no objections


[29-Aug-20 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Thanks for pointing it out, then


[29-Aug-20 09:09 PM] Crow#5457
and I don't give a shit which country I live in as long as I don't have to struggle to survive

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[29-Aug-20 09:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
If you want to have an idea of what direction the US is headed, then you should probably know that the folks in charge right now are following the playbook of the guy who had a direct hand in making Chile what it is today


[29-Aug-20 09:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
If so much of your identity depends on a colorful piece of rag and a handful of politicians and rich folks, then idk what to say to you


[29-Aug-20 09:09 PM] wren#0114
lel ok


[29-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Crow#5457
if you want to have an idea of what direction the US is headed, read this https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

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Meet the Hidden Architect Behind America's Racist Economics
Nobel laureate James Buchanan is the intellectual linchpin of the Koch-funded attack on democratic institutions, argues Duke historian Nancy MacLean
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[29-Aug-20 09:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's the guy!


[29-Aug-20 09:10 PM] Opponent#3498
pretty chilling shit, no joke.


[29-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Opponent#3498
cause US's not the only one using that as an ideal.


[29-Aug-20 09:11 PM] Crow#5457
the "revolution" has been decades in the making, but it isn't the left making it


[29-Aug-20 09:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there can be a capitalist revolution jsut as much as there can be a communist revolution


[29-Aug-20 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Revolutions are a natural reaction to escalation of repression by a class over another in an attempt to enforce or protect its material and political privileges, yeah


[29-Aug-20 09:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> there can be a capitalist revolution jsut as much as there can be a communist revolution
@prism stryder(intexda)  correct. The French Revolution was a pricess by which the industrial bourgeoisie overthrew the landed feudalist nobility


[29-Aug-20 09:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
The nobility has been relegated to irrelevance and now the bourgeoisie is trying to protect its interests through increasingly ruthless methods against the proletariat which is employed to work in its production schemes. It is likely that the next revolution will be spearheaded by the proletariat.


[29-Aug-20 09:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://youtu.be/PoEa9bzeTu0

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Michael Jackson – They Don’t Care About Us (2020)
"Great Protest Songs Can't Get Old, Stale Or Nonrelevant Because The Struggle Still Continues.  That's Why THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US IS The Anthem During This Chaotic, Pandemic World We Are All Living In.  To Celebrate Michael Jackson's Born Day, We Have Made The THEY DO...
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[29-Aug-20 09:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I wasn't expecting this tbh


[29-Aug-20 09:28 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[29-Aug-20 09:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/WrittenByHanna/status/1299419145776357377

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Fiona Applebum says block Shaun King! (@WrittenByHanna)
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[29-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://tenor.com/view/this-is-america-childish-gambino-dancing-gif-12164113

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[29-Aug-20 09:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I saw people saying that voting Trump was preserving the American way of life.

Well.... If this man represents their chosen way of life, then they are headed to disaster.


[29-Aug-20 09:32 PM] Opponent#3498
tbh delaying the trial until _after_ the election is smart. It's the best option to actually get a fair trial too.


[29-Aug-20 09:33 PM] jlun2#8758
im just curious why most articles on white anxiety are about men


[29-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Opponent#3498
women dream of BBC. So do men but they're ashamed and frustrated by their desires :twismug:

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[29-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
apparently his presence was waived


[29-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
he wasn't required to appear in court


[29-Aug-20 09:41 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Real_Xi_Jinping/status/1299698455032594434

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More Q stuff
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[29-Aug-20 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/Real_Xi_Jinping/status/1299669631641280513

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Banner in Berlin promoting peace between Russia, Germany and America with an American and an imperial German flag
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[29-Aug-20 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
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[29-Aug-20 09:42 PM] ononim#8141
germans wildin


[29-Aug-20 09:42 PM] jlun2#8758
is it bad every time i see german i think of the derpi drama & makes me annoyed as hell


[29-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
why the fuck is Germany getting into this jesus fucking christi


[29-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Opponent#3498
first it's BLM rally now Trump support, don't they have domestic issues to sort???


[29-Aug-20 09:43 PM] ononim#8141
Amerkafication

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[29-Aug-20 09:43 PM] byte[]#2610
what the fuck is going on here I hide this channel for an hour and it's still chaos when I come back

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[29-Aug-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
:shrugpony:


[29-Aug-20 09:44 PM] ononim#8141
It's like bimbofication but worse


[29-Aug-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
@ononim german bimbos :ponythinking:


[29-Aug-20 09:44 PM] jlun2#8758
pretty sure you can pitch a netflix show on that


[29-Aug-20 09:46 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/PeterKagan/status/1299337121807781889

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This is how MLK was depicted in 1967 to scare white Americans, in case there’s any confusion about what the strategy is.
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[29-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Crow#5457
portraying the protesters as "violent" because there's a few instances of violence is an old tactic


[29-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Opponent#3498
on a scale of things between 1 and Somme 1915, the depiction is pretty non-violent so it checks out :twismug:


[29-Aug-20 09:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's AfD clowning around as usual


[29-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They're the sort of idiots that look at news reports like "Since wearing a seatbelt was mandated by law, there's been a 90% reduction in people flying out of the windshield due to a car crash" and go "see, seatbelts are useless, so few people are dying!"


[29-Aug-20 09:49 PM] ononim#8141
I honestly thought, hoped, that Q shit was only american thing, perhaps greater anglophone thing
But no


[29-Aug-20 09:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
"I don't understand why we have all these regulations on foodstuff, _I've_ never been poisoned by something I ate!"


[29-Aug-20 09:51 PM] wren#0114
legalize raw milk


[29-Aug-20 09:51 PM] jlun2#8758
im curious on the age demographic of them


[29-Aug-20 09:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"I don;t understand water regulations, I've never had lead in my water before"


[29-Aug-20 09:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/1299745386115018752

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Massive QAnon turn-out at the anti-COVID measures demo in Berlin, Germany. Many flags / signs hailing @realDonaldTrump including in the colors of ultra right “Reichsbürger“ who want the German Reich back. Some told us they believe Donald Trump is an angel. #Germany #COVIDー19
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[29-Aug-20 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
>Reichburger


[29-Aug-20 09:52 PM] ononim#8141
The forbidden Americo-German union


[29-Aug-20 09:52 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Which German Reich, there's at least two of them😋


[29-Aug-20 09:52 PM] wren#0114
but for real, legalize raw milk


[29-Aug-20 09:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think they did in one state


[29-Aug-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.epicurious.com/archive/blogs/editor/2014/04/where-to-get-raw-milk-in-the-united.html

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These Are the States Where Raw Milk Is Legal | Epicurious.com


[29-Aug-20 09:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Arizona, California, Connecticut, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Nevada, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, and Washington (you can get raw goat milk at stores in Oregon, but not cow's milk).


[29-Aug-20 09:53 PM] jlun2#8758
i drink chocolate milk


[29-Aug-20 09:54 PM] wren#0114
not where I am 😢


[29-Aug-20 09:55 PM] jlun2#8758
milk fetish?


[29-Aug-20 09:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
And in these states it's legal to buy raw milk if you purchase directly from the farm that produces it:

Arkansas, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, New York, Oklahoma, Oregon (cow's milk), Rhode Island, Texas, Wisconsin


[29-Aug-20 09:55 PM] wren#0114
milk is lewd but no I just want to drink it


[29-Aug-20 09:55 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Raw milk?


[29-Aug-20 09:56 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Sounds a bit dangerous to me


[29-Aug-20 09:56 PM] wren#0114
not pasteurized or homogenized


[29-Aug-20 09:56 PM] wren#0114
it is if you're mass distributing, though you can test it


[29-Aug-20 09:57 PM] wren#0114
I drank raw milk from family's goat and cow for years without that


[29-Aug-20 09:57 PM] wren#0114
you can keep the milking area very clean, and the testing can catch stuff that's not noticeable


[29-Aug-20 09:57 PM] Crow#5457
fresh raw milk is fine, but it goes bad pretty fast


[29-Aug-20 09:57 PM] wren#0114
it's always going to be a risk compared to pasteurized


[29-Aug-20 09:58 PM] wren#0114
yeah


[29-Aug-20 10:00 PM] ononim#8141
The only actual solution is to become a big tiddy cow and so always have a supply of fresh milk

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[29-Aug-20 10:05 PM] jlun2#8758
then it gets ruined by humanization :ts_cry:


[29-Aug-20 10:06 PM] Teaspoon#9532

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[29-Aug-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
"resolving protest group's complaints" = "crushing"


[29-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Serval#4825
Q is a larp


[29-Aug-20 10:07 PM] byte[]#2610
I have a very big brain, please love me

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[29-Aug-20 10:07 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that richard spencer is a neo-nazi, his entire worldview is centered around worshipping authority


[29-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Serval#4825
If you study the history of 8chan you can find which namefag is Q


[29-Aug-20 10:08 PM] Serval#4825
There’s even an outline of Q from 2014


[29-Aug-20 10:08 PM] jlun2#8758
"ZOG"?


[29-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
jews


[29-Aug-20 10:09 PM] Crow#5457
he literally can't think of the government in any other terms than a big boot that crushes people beneath it


[29-Aug-20 10:10 PM] Crow#5457
that he licks, but that's another matter


[29-Aug-20 10:36 PM] byte[]#2610
how did I miss this

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[29-Aug-20 10:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
>garlic
>lemon juice


[29-Aug-20 10:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They fighting vampires and zerglings or what?


[29-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Garlic has been often cited as preventing some diseases


[29-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
So it's not surprising they'd go with it


[29-Aug-20 10:39 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Though there's a difference between "associated with a 3% lower rate of coronary diseases" and "prevents AIDS"


[29-Aug-20 10:40 PM] wren#0114
chastity prevents aids better :twiright:


[29-Aug-20 10:41 PM] byte[]#2610
this just in: killing yourself lowers your risk of catching a deadly illness by 100%
doctors hate this trick


[29-Aug-20 10:41 PM] wren#0114
:3


[29-Aug-20 10:41 PM] wren#0114
what if your deadly illness was suicidal thoughts?


[29-Aug-20 10:45 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
This was back in 2019

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[29-Aug-20 10:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
congratulations, you cured it by not having thoughts any more!


[29-Aug-20 10:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/514275-intelligence-chief-shifts-election-security-briefings-to-written-updates

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Intelligence chief shifts election security briefings to written up...
Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe notified Congress that the intelligence community will be scaling back in-person congressional briefings on election security and replacing them with written updates ahead of November.
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[29-Aug-20 11:13 PM] green_byte#1188
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2020/08/21/kentucky-derby-2020-shouldnt-run-fans-no-fans-protesters-say/3413362001/

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Louisville protesters want Churchill Downs to make a statement against police brutality by canceling the Kentucky Derby altogether.
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[29-Aug-20 11:13 PM] green_byte#1188
:ponythinking:


[29-Aug-20 11:34 PM] Audrey#7852
Wren, again, communism never really have been applied.


[29-Aug-20 11:35 PM] Audrey#7852
It's a state when all of the society and the people work together and everything works without worrying about the cost of anything.


[29-Aug-20 11:38 PM] Teaspoon#9532
please not this again


[29-Aug-20 11:42 PM] Audrey#7852
Ok


[29-Aug-20 11:44 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/2020/08/04/projet-de-loi-bioethique-les-deputes-ont-ils-autorise-l-avortement-pour-detresse-psychosociale_1795927 Raging in France : Now abortion is permitted for 'Psychosocial Distress' if you're broke and can't raise a child, it is medically justified to have the right of abortion. Before it was only two weeks. And the far-right here is yelling about it.

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Projet de loi bioéthique : les députés ont-ils autorisé l'avortemen...
Les députés ont adopté un amendement pour clarifier le fait que la «détresse psychosociale» peut être une cause de «péril grave», justifiant une interruption médicale de grossesse.
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[29-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
>French far right


[29-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Used to be cool when they were monarchists, now just generic fascist wannabes.


[29-Aug-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
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[29-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Put a Bonaparte or Bourbon back on the throne or fuck off tbh

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[29-Aug-20 11:48 PM] byte[]#2610
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/sacramento/sacramento-county-sheriffs-office-launches-excessive-force-investigation/103-80227c9d-0447-4233-bfdc-ddd2255a5a6f

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Sacramento sheriff investigating video that shows deputy kick man d...
The Instagram post reveals the officers later determined they had the wrong guy. While he did not apparently have a warrant, he was arrested for resisting arrest.
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[29-Aug-20 11:48 PM] Audrey#7852
Hmm Monarchy in France was pretty hard and a pain for the people.


[29-Aug-20 11:48 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
wrong guy + complying + kicked by cop and being like "what" = resisting


[29-Aug-20 11:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
therefore wrong guy -> arrestable guy pretty much entirely from the police's own actions

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[29-Aug-20 11:49 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
and don't forget filming all this -> arrestable


[29-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/Snake__EATER_11/status/1299801298083160064 And another person I'm going to unsubscribe. Yes he's some kind of brony with MLP toys in the background but trashing fat people gratuitously, pretending to be an expert... He should stick to videogames

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[29-Aug-20 11:50 PM] Audrey#7852
That's from a trending tag on Twitter


[29-Aug-20 11:51 PM] Audrey#7852
ACAB, Wingbeatpony. All of them.


[29-Aug-20 11:51 PM] byte[]#2610
sometimes I wonder if we're getting falseflagged


[29-Aug-20 11:52 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
what, you mean like people claiming they're bronies for the sole purpose of being internet edgelords?


[29-Aug-20 11:53 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Or maybe it's just that internet edgelords have always co-opted fandoms


[29-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Audrey#7852
Very possible, posing with pony toys to look trendy and be cool with memes but on the discourse being an asshole.


[29-Aug-20 11:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I think he might mean people pretending to be leftists in order to parody them by mixing important and trivial topic together


[29-Aug-20 11:54 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I would say that's a pretty typical m.o. for what I was describing, too


[29-Aug-20 11:54 PM] Audrey#7852
There's plenty like that unfortunately, it's abuse and even more on Twitter


[29-Aug-20 11:54 PM] byte[]#2610
but teaspoon, real communism has never been tried!


[29-Aug-20 11:56 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Is this that Grenueir guy?


[29-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Audrey#7852
When I'm talking of communism in the modern times I don't want a totalitarian regime like the USSR was and become unsustainable, but a state where 100% of the production is used and shared, and technology being put in use, at a point production of goods makes capitalism and profit completely obsolete.


[29-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
@Audrey Yes, it is Joueur du grenier


[29-Aug-20 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that's starting to sound like a post-scarcity society, and futurists have largely covered the major stumbling blocks that we'll need to overcome before we get there


[29-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
He used to be very fat himself, so that's probably why he hates fat people.

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[29-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Even theft would be completely useless, ideally, if you can obtain the best smartphone or tablet as everyone already have.


[29-Aug-20 11:58 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And even then that's no guarantee that it'll be communistic

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[29-Aug-20 11:59 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Infinite resources means infinite hoarding


[29-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Also yes Itsthinking, he has been fat himself but went to gym and all because being shamed and criticized as a fat nerd.


[30-Aug-20 12:00 AM] Audrey#7852
Recycling makes resources virtually infinite. I think. If 100% of people recycled their hardware and cars and all, and corporations would reduce profit, it would cost nothing! Mining in Third World Countries would be less required! You don't need 3, 4 iPhone or computers at once, if you don't want to fix it or can't, recycle.

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[30-Aug-20 12:03 AM] Audrey#7852
Last year I was doing some cleanup at my parents home. They had a shoebox filled of old broken phones, remotes, players, things that have not been used on the basement. Put it all on my car and brought em to the phone store to get recycled. If we all participate in reusing materials, that means less hoarding and less digging, less pollution. That's a first step, and it should not be seen as silly.


[30-Aug-20 12:07 AM] Audrey#7852
I'm more worried about ecology and e-waste than many economical issues since this is becoming a major issue since a decade.


[30-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Audrey#7852
For Opponent, WingbeatPony and everyone to understand my point on why communism in the 21st century would NOT be what it has been in the past century. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.revolutionpermanente.fr%2FLe-communisme-n-est-pas-une-utopie
I'm open to critiques and don't want to be misunderstood.


[30-Aug-20 12:22 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
The one problem is see with communism is it expects 100% of the people to work in order to spread out the 100% evenly and fairly. please tell me I'm wrong.


[30-Aug-20 12:22 AM] Audrey#7852
No you're right


[30-Aug-20 12:26 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Naturally 100% of the people can't work, either due to life disabilities and what not, so it ends up falling to those more willing to work in their place.


[30-Aug-20 12:27 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
yet without since everything needs to be shared equally, incentives can't exist


[30-Aug-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

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The Pareto principle (also known as the 80/20 rule, the law of the vital few, or the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes.Management consultant Joseph M. Juran suggested the principle and named it af...
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[30-Aug-20 12:28 AM] jlun2#8758
20% of ppl wil guarantee to do 80% of the tasks
even in nature w/ keystone species


[30-Aug-20 12:46 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
This will only work on a gobal world wide scale, because outside forces will take advantage otherwise. Plus not everyone can think alike in the world.

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[30-Aug-20 12:47 AM] Audrey#7852
Like I said many times. It needs to be a global revolution. USSR, South Americas, France's and other revolutions were all localized and not simultaneous.


[30-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Audrey#7852
I believe Internet will be a gamechanger. I was younger back in 2008 and there was Occuppy Wall Street protests raging worldwide.


[30-Aug-20 12:48 AM] Audrey#7852
Now we have worldwide protests for BLM and exposing everywhere the same isues with corrupt governments


[30-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Serval#4825
`Wren, again, communism never really have been applied.`


[30-Aug-20 12:49 AM] Serval#4825
b*sed and r_dpilled


[30-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Audrey ngl but you should zip it

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[30-Aug-20 12:50 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'm really 50/50 on if you're genuine or just trolling and playing a bit


[30-Aug-20 12:51 AM] Audrey#7852
Correction: I often tend to over-express my ideas and mobilize all the conversation. I'm going to listen more instead!


[30-Aug-20 12:52 AM] Serval#4825
Glimmer revolution 2020

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[30-Aug-20 01:04 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Aug-20 01:09 AM] jlun2#8758
sickles in 2020 :wheeze:


[30-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Serval#4825

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[30-Aug-20 01:46 AM] byte[]#2610
https://youtu.be/NNut3fwkG1s

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[30-Aug-20 02:21 AM] byte[]#2610
hmmm https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-ivanka-not-kamala-harris-should-be-the-first-female-president-3

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Trump Says Ivanka Is More Fit to Be First Female President Than Kam...
“They’re all saying, ‘We want Ivanka!’ I don’t blame them,” he said.
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[30-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I love Trump's "they"


[30-Aug-20 02:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It's this mythological mass of imaginary people in his head


[30-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Probably reinforced by when he has a brainfart and asks the nearest sycophant about it and they instinctively reply "Everyone thinks that's amazing, Mr. President!"


[30-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514291-college-democrats-apologize-to-alex-morse

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UMass College Democrats send letter of apology to Alex Morse
The University of Massachusetts - Amherst College Democrats apologized to Democratic Congressional candidate Alex Morse for the “distress” and “homophobic attacks”
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[30-Aug-20 02:32 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Organized campaign by the MA version of the DNC to ruin him


[30-Aug-20 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/A15CwxQA3TBa_OvfJmb-9DQ

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8 juicy details from the new Melania Trump tell-all book — POLITICO
For his inauguration, the president wanted a North Korean-style military parade, right down to the “goose-stepping troops and armored tanks.”
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQTE1Q3d4UUEzVEJhX092ZkptYi05RFEAMA


[30-Aug-20 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938
***Juiciest***


[30-Aug-20 02:33 AM] illumnious#7938
https://tenor.com/view/oh-gurl-sassy-drink-couch-damn-gif-5038484

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[30-Aug-20 02:38 AM] byte[]#2610
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/opinion/sunday/trump-protests-law.html

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Opinion | The Lawbreakers Trump Loves
He uses scare tactics about “law and order.” But what distinguishes this White House is its ties to criminals.
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[30-Aug-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
also, melania is *literally not allowed* to be president


[30-Aug-20 02:42 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you know, the thing Donald was raving about with Obama


[30-Aug-20 02:44 AM] byte[]#2610
and more recently harris


[30-Aug-20 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Trump should be careful about making being white a more important qualification than being a natural-born citizen. It would disqualify him too


[30-Aug-20 02:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
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[30-Aug-20 03:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
<https://imgur.com/t/current_events/dB7QIXN>


[30-Aug-20 03:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Aug-20 03:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abc7news.com/black-lives-matter-police-overtime-bill-emily-gil/6394037/

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NJ teen who organized Black Lives Matter protest gets hit with $2,5...
"I was shocked when I read the letter," Emily Gil said. "I felt a little disrespected because the tone of the letter was kind of condescending."
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[30-Aug-20 03:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[30-Aug-20 03:34 AM] Opponent#3498
better enjoy it while it lasts.


[30-Aug-20 03:36 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
A reminder of how we got here: https://www.npr.org/2019/08/30/755523088/as-fec-nears-shutdown-priorities-such-as-stopping-election-interference-on-hold

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As FEC Nears Shutdown, Priorities Such As Stopping Election Interfe...
The campaign finance agency will be temporarily shuttered over lack of a quorum. A former FEC chair says there's a "real possibility" the agency is effectively closed through the 2020 election.
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[30-Aug-20 03:37 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they continued working without a quorum, which meant they were unable to take any legal action and could only shuffle paperwork


[30-Aug-20 03:38 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
they did eventually regain quorum but lost it again in June https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/26/fec-caroline-hunter-resigns-341396

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FEC losing quorum again after Caroline Hunter resigns
The federal government's elections watchdog just reestablished a quorum last month.
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[30-Aug-20 03:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and we got Trainor in the process


[30-Aug-20 03:40 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
then to replace *her* we got Allan Dickerson, a Trump nominee


[30-Aug-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
https://whowhatwhy.org/2020/07/06/the-fec-regains-its-quorum-but-will-it-do-its-job/

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The FEC Regains Its Quorum. But Will It Do Its Job? - WhoWhatWhy
FEC nominee Allen Dickerson has a record of fighting anti-corruption measures, and campaign finance reform advocates warn his confirmation could halt any efforts to get the agency back on track.
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[30-Aug-20 03:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
THIS is why the hatch act doesn't matter anymore: because Trump achieved regulatory capture of the FEC


[30-Aug-20 03:44 AM] Opponent#3498
even if the agency would function. The removal isn't happening. The impeachment is old and stale. The criminal charges are impossible.


[30-Aug-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
the "greatest" government to ever exist is on the verge of collapse


[30-Aug-20 03:45 AM] byte[]#2610
accelerationists may be happy, but the rest of us are disillusioned


[30-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
in practice, you can do whatever with no consequence. You're not losing the base, the opposition hates you and that's not changing either, and swing voters care more about important stuff like fucking up epidemic response


[30-Aug-20 03:46 AM] Opponent#3498
for a shithole like Ukraine keeping up appearances is important cause US is watching and looking for a reason to deny money (or, better yet, demand repayments early)


[30-Aug-20 03:47 AM] Opponent#3498
for US itself... :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 03:49 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Biden is all about keeping up appearances. Imagine if he didn't. Imagine a parallel universe where if he does get elected and the minute he's in he just goes full dictator and starts actually assassinating political rivals. Like...is it too late now for even the GOP to stop what's happening?


[30-Aug-20 03:49 AM] Opponent#3498
well yes, that's Biden's thing. 'Return to normalcy'.


[30-Aug-20 03:50 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
[uncle joe puts his hand on your shoulder] it's time to return to normalcy. nothing personnel kid


[30-Aug-20 03:50 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Looks like Trump is going to Kenosha

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[30-Aug-20 03:50 AM] byte[]#2610
[uncle joe puts his hand on the shoulder of a single black man in the back of the room, whose skin suddenly turns pale]


[30-Aug-20 03:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> Looks like Trump is going to Kenosha
_oh boy!_


[30-Aug-20 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean yeah there is that other possibility where Trump just dies but


[30-Aug-20 03:52 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
between the two fantasies I'm not sure which one is actually more likely


[30-Aug-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
how about I add a twist to it


[30-Aug-20 03:52 AM] byte[]#2610
he directly dies from the actions of one of his skinhead sycophants in the area


[30-Aug-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d rather have him die via stair fall


[30-Aug-20 03:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
less grand that way


[30-Aug-20 03:54 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
the first presidential debate happens and Trump just goes WWE celebrity deathmatch, but Biden hoists a length of pool chain and goes, *you forget. I trained against Corn Pop. You're no match for me, Cheeto*

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[30-Aug-20 03:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so who wants to bet Trump will weigh in on the teenager trial and attempt to fuck shit up legally?


[30-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
> i;d rather have him die via stair fall
That's the most likely at this point


[30-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Opponent#3498
that's why they best stall the trial.


[30-Aug-20 03:57 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Slips going up the stairs to Air Force One


[30-Aug-20 03:58 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no fanfare, no martyrdom. just a stupid stair slip


[30-Aug-20 03:58 AM] byte[]#2610
The TP attached to his shoe has no traction


[30-Aug-20 03:59 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Tries to run up an escalator, trips, tie gets caught in the step-feed


[30-Aug-20 04:03 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
nah, I think the secret service will get to him in time because he'll have tried to run up a down escalator


[30-Aug-20 04:06 AM] byte[]#2610
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[30-Aug-20 04:06 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Gods, the whole "Kyle was cleaning graffiti!" thing was just amazing


[30-Aug-20 04:07 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It really is sickly comical at this point


[30-Aug-20 04:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He can clean a wall! Clearly he doesnt have a killer bone in his body!"


[30-Aug-20 04:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514285-college-republicans-at-arizona-state-raise-money-for-alleged-kenosha

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College Republicans at Arizona State University are raising money for the teen suspected of killing two people and injuring another at a protest in Kenosha, Wis., this week.
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[30-Aug-20 04:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
College Republicans at Arizona State raise money for alleged Kenosha shooter: 'He does not deserve to have his entire life destroyed'


[30-Aug-20 04:13 AM] byte[]#2610
criminal consequences for criminal acts do not make the destruction of life


[30-Aug-20 04:14 AM] byte[]#2610
but kneeling on someone's neck for 8 minutes does


[30-Aug-20 04:17 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
Heard Ted Bundy liked doing chores too


[30-Aug-20 04:44 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, *someone* definitely destroyed two lives and effectively three at the protest


[30-Aug-20 04:45 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And it's not like we have a case of mistaken identity here


[30-Aug-20 04:58 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/29/trump-protests-kenosha-visit-404965
Uh oh

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Trump to visit Kenosha in wake of police protests
White House spokesperson Judd Deere confirmed the president will meet Tuesday with law enforcement and survey damage from recent violence.
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[30-Aug-20 05:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
That's always such a weird hat, it's like a bootleg Chinese MAGA one

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[30-Aug-20 05:54 AM] jlun2#8758
im not convinced he'll die tbh


[30-Aug-20 05:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He's gonna stab one of his sons and soul transfer into them, you watch


[30-Aug-20 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
So it sounds to me like he's not going there for a speech or a rally, he's literally going there for a photo op


[30-Aug-20 06:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I fully expect them to clear the streets and then he's gonna walk around with police pointing at litter and damage


[30-Aug-20 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
and then he'll record something for a camera and go home


[30-Aug-20 06:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
no protesters or general populace will be allowed within 1000 feet


[30-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills

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Longest recorded sniper kills
Reports regarding the longest recorded sniper kills that contain information regarding the shooting distance and the identity of the sniper have been presented to the general public since 1967. Snipers in modern warfare have had a substantial history following the development ...
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[30-Aug-20 06:15 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unrelated

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[30-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Opponent#3498
estimations are fine and good but past like 1.5-2km you can't see anything anyway, and the time of flight is measured in seconds. Last time I checked the longest recorded hit is 3.3km and that's basicly pure luck.


[30-Aug-20 07:01 AM] Opponent#3498
you have to be _good_ to even try, of course. But, yeah.


[30-Aug-20 08:06 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/nyc-public-housing-tenants-say-they-were-misled-into-appearing-in-rnc-video/2591946/

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Three residents said they didn’t know their comments were going to be used in support of President Trump, with one saying she was asked to bring together people to speak about NYCHA and their concerns, but was never told it would be part of the convention
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[30-Aug-20 08:08 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Trump mislead people!? :caddy:

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[30-Aug-20 08:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
hang on, their defense is even more misleading


[30-Aug-20 08:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
> Every resident of @NYCHA knows that I would never allow the @GOPconvention to air anything with which they felt uncomfortable & showed the draft video - in full - to the resident organizer PRIOR to its airing and was told by them that it was “amazing” and “wholly accurate.”


[30-Aug-20 08:09 AM] Teaspoon#9532
~amazing~


[30-Aug-20 08:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
keyword here is "resident organizer." That's the guy that asked them all to appear in the video. They didn't show the video to the residents.


[30-Aug-20 08:10 AM] Teaspoon#9532
(sidenote: "resident organizer" is Terry Chadstone, the coffee intern)


[30-Aug-20 08:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Maybe we should teach everyone magic. The art of misdirection is powerful, and it can work even when you know what to look for, but you'll know what you're not *meant* to notice


[30-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Opponent#3498
this was his shot at 'success' I suppose.


[30-Aug-20 08:14 AM] Crow#5457
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[30-Aug-20 08:15 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
sadly, the people who most need to see this meme won't get it because they were burning harry potter books back in the day


[30-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/nikki-haley-claims-america-not-racist-later-says-she-faced-n1238025

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“In much of the Democratic Party, it's now fashionable to say that America is racist. That is a lie. America is not a racist country,” Haley said.
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[30-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
> "I was a Brown girl, in a Black and white world. We faced discrimination and hardship. But my parents never gave in to grievance and hate,” Haley said. “My mom built a successful business. My dad taught 30 years at a historically black college. And the people of South Carolina chose me as their first minority and first female governor.”
> 
> Haley, whose parents are Sikh has, on several occasions, dealt with racism in both her personal and political lives. When Haley ran for governor in 2010, prominent then-state Sen. Jake Knotts, a Republican, referred to the candidate as a “raghead,” or someone who wears a headdress or a turban.
> 
> “We already got one raghead in the White House, we don’t need a raghead in the governor’s mansion,” Knotts said on an internet show, incorrectly referring to former President Barack Obama with the same term.


[30-Aug-20 08:18 AM] Crow#5457
there was someone in another server that said racism doesn't exist because "race" is a social construct


[30-Aug-20 08:19 AM] Crow#5457
and just seemed to be pedantically mad about people saying racism when "ethnic discrimination" was more technically correct


[30-Aug-20 09:06 AM] wren#0114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEncQKV8k_0

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Police chief breaks down after fire crews blocked from burning Rich...
Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney announced Richmond will be under curfew following violent protests that have gripped downtown Richmond for the last two nights. The curfew begins Sunday at 8 p.m.
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[30-Aug-20 09:27 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
Did anyone had a theory that russians is behind protests?


[30-Aug-20 09:27 AM] wren#0114
idk, I've heard theories of china funding, but no proofs


[30-Aug-20 09:29 AM] wren#0114
whats interesting to me is what he talked about in the end of that vid above, that the local protestors are peaceful and respectful every night, but get overrun by people from way out of town, or even out of the state, who start violence


[30-Aug-20 09:29 AM] wren#0114
then the peaceful ones try to leave, and sometimes even get assaulted by the violent ones on the way out


[30-Aug-20 09:57 AM] Serenity#9645

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[30-Aug-20 10:05 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
ironically enough didn't protestors end up taking over his apartment complex and demand his removal?


[30-Aug-20 10:06 AM] Serenity#9645
IIRC yes, and IIRC he joined the protest at the courthouse and was attacked and asked for shelter and declared it a riot or something of the like


[30-Aug-20 10:08 AM] Serenity#9645
been awhile and alcahol so i might be mixing up people and places so fact check me on that


[30-Aug-20 10:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
there's a discrediting gambit at play then


[30-Aug-20 10:15 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
This serves to confuse the public on both sides.


[30-Aug-20 10:15 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
at this point people are not sure who's who anymore.


[30-Aug-20 10:30 AM] Serenity#9645
theres alot of places with violence rising, its kinda hard to keep up with each place and mayor anymore with older news


[30-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Audrey#7852
Sorry for yesterday I was kind of tripping and just reading my previous posts and I understand why it made some of you uncomfortable. (I'll better not.)


[30-Aug-20 10:47 AM] Audrey#7852
Some new elements on the shooting that won't be shown on the news but should be reported.

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[30-Aug-20 10:52 AM] Serenity#9645
https://twitter.com/i/status/1299250471069085696

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[30-Aug-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixaux/kyle_rittenhouse_along_with_other_white_males/

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[30-Aug-20 10:53 AM] Crow#5457
apparently kyle sucker punched a girl


[30-Aug-20 10:53 AM] Audrey#7852
Big prep-up tomorrow for next year, getting all the sanitary measures set up and enforced will be a huge task. Making sure everyone wears a mask and wash there hands,it's gonna be a hell of a year.


[30-Aug-20 10:53 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
2020 has been such a nasty year I have the urge to curse the heavens for this terrible period


[30-Aug-20 10:54 AM] Audrey#7852
Indeed it's stressful, I hate it.


[30-Aug-20 10:55 AM] Audrey#7852
I was already subject to anxiety and panic attacks, same for a lot of people, I'm strong but there's a moment it's unbearable


[30-Aug-20 10:58 AM] Audrey#7852
https://disrn.com/news/gofundme-removes-campaigns-for-kyle-rittenhouse

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GoFundMe removes campaigns for Kyle Rittenhouse
GoFundMe and rival site Fundly have both removed funding campaigns for Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old charged with first degree homicide after shooting three rioters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Tuesday night.
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[30-Aug-20 10:58 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Hey Crow, that video has even more. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=356419142415866

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[30-Aug-20 10:59 AM] Serenity#9645
https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ

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Click here to Give now to  Raise money for Kyle Rittenhouse Legal ...
Kyle Rittenhouse just defended himself from a brutal attack by multiple members of the far-leftist group ANTIFA – the experience was undoubtedly a brutal one, as he was forced to take two lives to defend his own.

Now, Kyle is being unfairly charged with murder 1, by a DA...
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[30-Aug-20 10:59 AM] Serenity#9645
220k


[30-Aug-20 10:59 AM] Audrey#7852
There was at some point a Go Fund Me page! I wonder where the 100K went if they kept it or refunded (hope they shared it)


[30-Aug-20 10:59 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
so there's two conflicting stories here


[30-Aug-20 11:00 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
whether he murdered people just because he wanted to or he did it in self-defense. I now do not know which one is true


[30-Aug-20 11:01 AM] Serenity#9645
the world is gray and not black and white sadly


[30-Aug-20 11:03 AM] Audrey#7852
It was murder, no self-defense, who brings a kalashnikof in the streets everyday?

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[30-Aug-20 11:03 AM] Phelan#7647
I do


[30-Aug-20 11:04 AM] Audrey#7852
You don't pretty certain it's illegal.


[30-Aug-20 11:04 AM] Phelan#7647
It's not


[30-Aug-20 11:04 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
to be fair, one of the guys who got shot had a Glock


[30-Aug-20 11:05 AM] Audrey#7852
Okay did they use it? Was it a real gun?


[30-Aug-20 11:05 AM] Phelan#7647
They aimed it and it was real


[30-Aug-20 11:05 AM] Serenity#9645
https://archive.is/VTm2F

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[30-Aug-20 11:05 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
they tried to aim it at Kyle and he shot the guy in the arm


[30-Aug-20 11:05 AM] Phelan#7647
Also the dude was a felon, felon in possession is 10 years


[30-Aug-20 11:06 AM] Audrey#7852
What about Rittenhouse what was this person doing in the streets with a RIFLE


[30-Aug-20 11:06 AM] Audrey#7852
(other than wanting to commit murder? Hunting?)


[30-Aug-20 11:06 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
What about the guy with the glock? you can't just focus one side and ignore the other

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[30-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Serenity#9645
just read the NY times article, that isnt a right wing source, just read it and let them walk you trough it


[30-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Audrey#7852
Alright


[30-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Phelan#7647
You can walk around with a rifle openly.


[30-Aug-20 11:07 AM] Audrey#7852
Then a good weed to relax from all this I'm getting nervous


[30-Aug-20 11:08 AM] Phelan#7647
Walking around with one doesn't even imply intent, people just think that it does.


[30-Aug-20 11:08 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
https://national-justice.com/sites/default/files/styles/w726xauto/public/2020/08/27/grosskreutz12.png

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[30-Aug-20 11:09 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
guy who got shot in the arm


[30-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Audrey#7852
Doesn't justify a death in any way.


[30-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Serenity#9645
no it dosnt, neither does execution by glock or being beaten over the head with a skateboard


[30-Aug-20 11:10 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea it does, having a gun pointed towards you while you're trying to run away is a justified shooting


[30-Aug-20 11:12 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
in a bunch of videos i've watched, Gaige tried to surrender when Kyle had his gun trained on him. When Kyle looked away Gaige rushed him and got shot for it


[30-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Serenity#9645
the article has footage of every encounter and video, being shot at, being hit, having a false surrender (with is a war crime) from someone who is a felon for firearms (who has a glock and is drawing it)


[30-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Audrey#7852
It's like you just have to scream "I feel threatened" before shooting to justify killing someone.


[30-Aug-20 11:12 AM] Phelan#7647
What? No?


[30-Aug-20 11:13 AM] Phelan#7647
You just need to (reasonably) feel threatened


[30-Aug-20 11:13 AM] Audrey#7852
Carrying an assault rifle, helmet and all, going to a protestç and scream "I'm in danger!"


[30-Aug-20 11:13 AM] Audrey#7852
It's horrible.


[30-Aug-20 11:13 AM] Phelan#7647
If I was a minor getting chased after by a pedo (who I thought had a gun), I'd be terrified for my life.


[30-Aug-20 11:13 AM] wren#0114
people among antifa had rifles too


[30-Aug-20 11:14 AM] wren#0114
the presence of rifles is not a bad thing


[30-Aug-20 11:14 AM] Audrey#7852
That's because people on the other side have rifles too.


[30-Aug-20 11:14 AM] Serenity#9645
he doesnt have a helmet, he works in that city and lives 20 miles away, he is standing at a threatened business and rendering aid to protestors that are hurt, he only starts running when he is ganged up on


[30-Aug-20 11:14 AM] Phelan#7647
Guy literally just behind the two fired a warning shot in the air, not unreasonable to assume that the person giving chase fired it. @wren


[30-Aug-20 11:16 AM] Serenity#9645
he has a medkit and in video helps hurt protesters well the guy shot attacks him with a glock well wearing a paramedic hat (again felon for firearms abuse, not allowed to have one) lol


[30-Aug-20 11:19 AM] Serenity#9645
and the false surrender is a war crime, he does not shoot well his hands are up but when he pulls a glock he does. im amazed he had the ability to make such quick decisions. i know id be dead for believing that surrender and i have actual firearm and dangerous situation training


[30-Aug-20 11:21 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Always assume that he might pull a trick and keep your gun trained on him and eyes on him until he's immobilized


[30-Aug-20 11:21 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that's what I read somewhere on surrender protocol


[30-Aug-20 11:22 AM] Serenity#9645
i know, but im a little gullable not going to lie. i recognize my shortfalls


[30-Aug-20 11:28 AM] Serenity#9645
main question i have about the situation, why did his friends defending the business not back him up and protect him, they just disappeared? but later they had a interview with media? where were they? its obviously the place he has been all night from all the videos and before it looked like 30 strong when he was rendering aid to passerby protestors.


[30-Aug-20 11:29 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I heard stuff along the lines that he got separated at some point when they tried to move to a new area.


[30-Aug-20 11:30 AM] Serenity#9645
but why abandon the business they were there to defend? was it too overun?


[30-Aug-20 11:30 AM] Crow#5457
no, he left the area of the dealership and tried to go back, but the police barred him

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[30-Aug-20 11:32 AM] Serenity#9645
can i get a source? from either of you? both seem kinda odd to me


[30-Aug-20 11:33 AM] Crow#5457
you didn't actually read the nytimes article, did you


[30-Aug-20 11:33 AM] Serenity#9645
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.
Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.


[30-Aug-20 11:35 AM] Serenity#9645
enless im retarded it seems like a dealership kinda like the one in the beginning videos hours earlier that he was defending


[30-Aug-20 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
they were actually not really that correct about the direction the dude with the plastic bag came from, he was coming from the direction opposite the muzzle flash according to the side video that was the first one to come out


[30-Aug-20 11:36 AM] Crow#5457
it shows the plastic bag dude coming from the right as you look at the front of the building


[30-Aug-20 11:37 AM] Crow#5457
the muzzle flash is far off to the left as you look at the front of the building


[30-Aug-20 11:40 AM] Serenity#9645
have you ever heard a gunshot in a urban environment?


[30-Aug-20 11:43 AM] Serenity#9645
i maybe wrong cus my right ear is better then my left, but that echos, you can tell almost a general that is left/right side but thats about it. i wont even try to guess well chased, my training was mainly finding cover and trying to get the hell out/ getting captured and knowing what to do to get free


[30-Aug-20 11:43 AM] Crow#5457
... what? what does that have to do with the direction the muzzle flash was in?


[30-Aug-20 11:44 AM] Serenity#9645
cus muzzle flash is a visual, you cant look 360, you can hear 360


[30-Aug-20 11:45 AM] Serenity#9645

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[30-Aug-20 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
I mean, what's the point? I don't understand what you're trying to say


[30-Aug-20 11:45 AM] Serenity#9645
you expect anyone not looking directly where to see a muzzle flash with all that light pollution? its gonna be heard


[30-Aug-20 11:45 AM] Crow#5457
you think that kyle thought that the guy chasing him had a gun or something?


[30-Aug-20 11:47 AM] Audrey#7852
I don't think Kyle even noticed the other guy had a gun which would also be self defense


[30-Aug-20 11:47 AM] Serenity#9645
no i dont, but i think if you are being chased and hear a bang, any normal human would be like oh shit im being attacked. here and now we can look back calmly but not in the moment


[30-Aug-20 11:47 AM] Audrey#7852
The bigger problem remains Americans worships guns and are feeling likethey can make the law.


[30-Aug-20 11:48 AM] wren#0114
guns are a fundamental right in America

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[30-Aug-20 11:48 AM] Serenity#9645
i can agree with you a huge amount, but the problem comes with the law not being able to enforce it


[30-Aug-20 11:48 AM] Audrey#7852
There's even a tag 'my little arsenal' on Derpibooru! 🤮


[30-Aug-20 11:48 AM] Serenity#9645
idk about in france but the polizei does a great job!


[30-Aug-20 11:49 AM] wren#0114
kek, I wish I had this

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[30-Aug-20 11:49 AM] Audrey#7852
Painted like it's a toy....


[30-Aug-20 11:50 AM] wren#0114
how horrifying


[30-Aug-20 11:50 AM] Serenity#9645
in the USA where was the police to protect the car lot? they just couldnt... so people who lived and worked there tried


[30-Aug-20 11:50 AM] Audrey#7852
Gun at home maybe but not in the streets in intend to use it!


[30-Aug-20 11:50 AM] wren#0114
gun ownership is about making it so you don't have to use it


[30-Aug-20 11:50 AM] wren#0114
because people have to respect an armed citizen


[30-Aug-20 11:51 AM] Serenity#9645
in washington, the police put out a message your on your own, criminals have guns (like the felon shot in wisconson) in some places it takes hours for police to arrive


[30-Aug-20 11:51 AM] Serenity#9645
it isnt polizei ill be there in 1-10 mins


[30-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Serenity#9645
the USA is really big


[30-Aug-20 11:52 AM] Audrey#7852
I'm sorry but no. When you buy something, it's because you will use it. You don't need a GUN to get respected.

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[30-Aug-20 11:54 AM] Audrey#7852
Or accept also Antifa and BLM can be armed for their defense and make it equal to "get respected"


[30-Aug-20 11:54 AM] Serenity#9645
you dont need a gun for respect, you need one for defense. ive lived in the city with a police center 1 min away, and ive lived a hour and ahalf from a police area. just so happens there was KKK there and they sold weed. i got a gun.


[30-Aug-20 11:54 AM] wren#0114
yes, every citizen should be armed if they choose to


[30-Aug-20 11:54 AM] Audrey#7852
I don't understand.


[30-Aug-20 11:56 AM] Audrey#7852
I think shootings should end on a country like America. Canada is also big.


[30-Aug-20 11:56 AM] Serenity#9645
15 mins away from me was a no cop zone, KKK/neo-nazis would kill cops, they made drugs and grew weed for money, they lived at the top of a mountain and no one would stop the people in the hills. i was robbed the first month i lived there. i got a gun cus clinton was a hour and ahalf away with a real PD


[30-Aug-20 11:56 AM] wren#0114
yikes


[30-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Phelan#7647
If ARs were banned for sale, I'd just make them myself lmao.

80% rifles aren't too expensive.


[30-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Serenity#9645
ARs are pretty shitty tho


[30-Aug-20 11:57 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea well I'd make them *because* they're banned.


[30-Aug-20 11:58 AM] wren#0114
tbh


[30-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Phelan#7647
Just giving an example.


[30-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Audrey#7852
Woudn't non-lethal weapons be prefferable? Lacrymogens or rubber bullet guns that incapacitate an assailant and not designed to KILL?


[30-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Serenity#9645
understood, just hate cleaning and maintaining them, and the sight picture is pretty shitty


[30-Aug-20 11:58 AM] Serenity#9645
you dont understand less then lethal do you?


[30-Aug-20 11:59 AM] Audrey#7852
Yes I do, that's my point.


[30-Aug-20 11:59 AM] Serenity#9645
*gets hit with beanbag/rubber* oof *gets shot by real bullet, dead*


[30-Aug-20 12:00 PM] wren#0114
you can't protect your property and your liberty with a beanbag or rubber bullet


[30-Aug-20 12:00 PM] Serenity#9645
tazers have failed with being hit, what makes you think rubber wil stop someone? people sometimes dont stop from real bullets!


[30-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Protect your property? Because items costs more than human life? (No) What do you mean, Wren? Would you shoot a thief to death or incapacitate them?


[30-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Yes


[30-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Do what I could to incapacitate


[30-Aug-20 12:01 PM] Serenity#9645
if you threaten my life by breaking onto my property with unknown intent yeah, you value my property more then your life


[30-Aug-20 12:01 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Let's put it this way: If someone tried to rob my house, then they dont value their life over my belongings


[30-Aug-20 12:02 PM] Serenity#9645
for all i know you want to rape me, not take my stuff. for all i know you wanna torture me, sell me as a sex slave, ect


[30-Aug-20 12:02 PM] wren#0114
I would shoot a home invader, 100x more so if I had family in the house


[30-Aug-20 12:02 PM] Serenity#9645
im too cute of a gay guy to be sold as a sex slave

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[30-Aug-20 12:02 PM] wren#0114
but I mean more as deterrent from tyranny


[30-Aug-20 12:02 PM] Audrey#7852
If you had the possibility to not kill someone


[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] Audrey#7852
You would not. You would live with the idea you killed someone.

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[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] wren#0114
split second in dark room with who knows what the invader has on him, not taking the chance


[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] Serenity#9645
less then lethal can be lethal as well, but your better off not taking the chance of it being nothing more then a bug bite


[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] wren#0114
obviously if the situation is clear I'd de-escalate if possible


[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm terrified by what I'm reading in this conversation, I don't know what to say!

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[30-Aug-20 12:03 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
if that's the case then people shouldn't be tempted to throw their life away by robbing


[30-Aug-20 12:04 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
People are people and people are very unpredictable


[30-Aug-20 12:04 PM] wren#0114
if I hesitate, with family in the house, and get shot, then my family is at the mercy of a violent invader, and I could never provide for my family after


[30-Aug-20 12:05 PM] Audrey#7852
If I were robbed with an armed person I'd defend myself unless they are armed, I'm going into safety. I have an insurance. Don't people in the USA have insurance or a justice system that will


[30-Aug-20 12:05 PM] Serenity#9645
a tazer can kill, a rubber bullet can kill, but id rather not be raped or kidnapped and stop someone from doing so, im smol and its a real problem


[30-Aug-20 12:05 PM] Audrey#7852
recover your material goods?


[30-Aug-20 12:05 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Insurance means jack if you go to safety and the robber chases you


[30-Aug-20 12:06 PM] Serenity#9645
i dont have insurance, and if i did how could i replace stuff thats impossable to? like my behind with rape?


[30-Aug-20 12:06 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
A robber doesn't want to get caught and if someone sees their face...


[30-Aug-20 12:06 PM] Audrey#7852
I am against taking a life to protect commodities


[30-Aug-20 12:07 PM] wren#0114
I am against home invasion


[30-Aug-20 12:07 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I'm against it as well, but if someone tries to cause me harm then i'll defend myself


[30-Aug-20 12:07 PM] Serenity#9645
im against rape and kidnapping


[30-Aug-20 12:07 PM] Audrey#7852
There's Defending yourself and killing someone.


[30-Aug-20 12:07 PM] wren#0114
I wouldn't just snipe someone snooping around or something crazy like that. But in a dark room if someone doesn't stop and makes sudden movements, and I can't see what he's holding, then I have no qualms


[30-Aug-20 12:08 PM] Serenity#9645
youd rather me get rapped or kidnapped before i kill someone that does those things?


[30-Aug-20 12:08 PM] wren#0114
I also am not about to just hide and let someone rob my house


[30-Aug-20 12:08 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm going to vomit


[30-Aug-20 12:09 PM] Serenity#9645
youd side with a rapist/kidnapper before the victim?


[30-Aug-20 12:11 PM] Phelan#7647
If someone broke into my place, I don't want to fight fair.


[30-Aug-20 12:11 PM] Serenity#9645
this is victim shaming at its finest


[30-Aug-20 12:11 PM] wren#0114
having a good dog would help


[30-Aug-20 12:11 PM] Phelan#7647
Also, anyone that says "insurance will cover it" has never dealt with insurance.


[30-Aug-20 12:12 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I've been robbed before and Phelan is right


[30-Aug-20 12:12 PM] Serenity#9645
fuck insurance, i had flood coverage, my car was flooded well i was working in germany, and they claimed insurance fraud and closed all my accounts, i had to switch banks, i spent over 300$ in calls to the US switching banks


[30-Aug-20 12:13 PM] Serenity#9645
and lost over 3k for one of my cars that was totaled from the flood


[30-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Serenity#9645
i have minimal legal insurance on everything now, cus they wont ever pay out


[30-Aug-20 12:16 PM] Serenity#9645
i wish my fav german bar in the US had insurance for covid before shutting down forever, would be nice for a 1st gen immigrant business that me and many loved

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[30-Aug-20 12:17 PM] Serenity#9645
same for all the places burned down in recent events


[30-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Serenity#9645
me and the local brony chapter went there once a month, but its closed forever, i miss onya and her amazing food and the rare good beer and ciders she served. they had a wall of board games, free to play, amazing 80s playlist and 80s movie night all the time. great prices and a smoking room, one of the few that are still allowed


[30-Aug-20 12:21 PM] wren#0114
cider

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[30-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Serenity#9645
hehe


[30-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/TheRealCoryElia/status/1299908378810957825

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[30-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Crow#5457
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@TheRealCoryElia Abolishing PPB shouldn't be a problem; the police is MIA. Traffic violations: 1- running a red light, 2- not yielding to pedestrians having the right of way, 3- Missing plates.
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[30-Aug-20 12:24 PM] wren#0114
:ponkthonk:


[30-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Serenity#9645
police MIA for people standing in the middle of the street illegally, damaging private property? dont get me wrong no plates is wrong. but i can understand running a red light well having bottles tossed at you by people breaking the law already


[30-Aug-20 12:25 PM] wren#0114
are you sure plates aren't on the back


[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Serenity#9645
i was thinking that too


[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Serenity#9645
but benifit of the doubt not all states


[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] wren#0114
the other trucks have plates visible, the one in the red circle is hard to view with the angle


[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] wren#0114
yeah idk where this is


[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Serenity#9645
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[30-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Serenity#9645
doesnt look like legal crossing of the road


[30-Aug-20 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
I slo-mo'd the video, can't see the black one on the left, but both of the other two looked like their back plates were missing


[30-Aug-20 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-Aug-20 12:27 PM] Crow#5457
uhhh


[30-Aug-20 12:27 PM] Serenity#9645
uhhhh being attacked isnt enough to keep driving?


[30-Aug-20 12:28 PM] wren#0114
they're not exactly crossing lol


[30-Aug-20 12:28 PM] Serenity#9645
id floor it to tell the truth


[30-Aug-20 12:28 PM] wren#0114
nah


[30-Aug-20 12:28 PM] Crow#5457
wtf do you mean being attacked? they entered the street on a red light


[30-Aug-20 12:28 PM] wren#0114
they were fine how they handled it here


[30-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Crow#5457
idk, if you can justify nearly running people over on a red light, I'm not sure why you can't handle people burning down stores


[30-Aug-20 12:30 PM] Crow#5457
you can see the truck on the right almost ran over a guy on a bicycle further down as well


[30-Aug-20 12:30 PM] Serenity#9645
cus theres many who have stopped who have been dragged out and beaten, i aint putting myself at that risk, a looted store has no clear connection to threat of life lol

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[30-Aug-20 12:31 PM] wren#0114
they didn't run over anyone, and that's worse than destroying city blocks of local community business?


[30-Aug-20 12:31 PM] wren#0114
why are the BLM riots destroying black businesses in their own neighborhoods


[30-Aug-20 12:32 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Wasn't their a truck driver who stopped on one of those highway protests, and got pulled from his vehicle and got beaten?


[30-Aug-20 12:32 PM] wren#0114
yes


[30-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
that wasn't the problem, you're clearly fine with illegal actions that put people in danger when there's "fear for your life", but random destruction with no danger to people is somehow worse?


[30-Aug-20 12:33 PM] wren#0114
who didn't hit anyone, who was defending a trans woman who was mobbed, and they followed him later and pulled him out of his truck


[30-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, there's a few videos of big ass trucks running protesters over


[30-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Serenity#9645
there was also a truck driver who almost got dragged out but took a prtestor for a long ride after dragging him for abit trying to disconnect the trailer


[30-Aug-20 12:33 PM] wren#0114
called him a white supremist and knocked him out, bloodied head on pavement


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
one person did that, the mob itself barely touched him other than to force him back down to the ground when he tried to walk off


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] wren#0114
the mob let it happen


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I ain't fine with it myself as well, Crow. People on both sides are getting bolder and bolder as days pass.


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] wren#0114
bystander effect sucks, but it's not an excuse


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Crow#5457
no they didn't lol, they pushed that dude out


[30-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Serenity#9645
so peaceful taking a semi driver out of his vehicle and looting it!


[30-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
then he came flying back in as soon as it looked like he was walking away to kick him in the back of the head


[30-Aug-20 12:35 PM] wren#0114
the riots must end or stupid stuff like this will get worse. It's not helping the cause of blm in any way anymore


[30-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
the protests won't end until the core issue is addressed, just like what happened during the civil rights movement


[30-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Serenity#9645
what is the core issue?


[30-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Crow#5457
police accountability


[30-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Serenity#9645
a bill has been made, its been denied. (not by republicans, they made a bill with mandatory black culture training and it was denied)


[30-Aug-20 12:36 PM] wren#0114
police will not be defunded if blocks of private property are continuously destroyed, and people assaulted on the streets for not joining in anarchy


[30-Aug-20 12:36 PM] wren#0114
if anything the violence will make people desire more police


[30-Aug-20 12:37 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
When the people realize that the police aren't helping, then they take the law into their own hands


[30-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Audrey#7852
What caused violence first? (Poverty, discrimination, and inequalities)


[30-Aug-20 12:37 PM] wren#0114
which is bad, law enforcement should be allowed to enforce the law and stop the looting and burning and assaullts


[30-Aug-20 12:37 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Violence breeds violence


[30-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Crow#5457
claiming it's anarchy is a strawman https://twitter.com/ChuckModi1/status/1299174942819454978

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[30-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Audrey#7852
End the cycle of violence.


[30-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
the cycle started with the police, it will end with the police facing accountability

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[30-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Serenity#9645
anarchy is a stupid defense anarchists are not violent, only idiots claim anarchists are for that, nah revolutionaries are


[30-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Crow#5457
or civil war, which ever one comes first

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[30-Aug-20 12:39 PM] wren#0114
>claiming it's anarchy is a strawman
the riots are taking actions which are without law, and the law is not enforced on them currently


[30-Aug-20 12:39 PM] wren#0114
it is anarchy in the basic form


[30-Aug-20 12:40 PM] wren#0114
I want more police accountability. Heck, I wish there was a lot more fed agency accountability too. Violent destruction is not the path that leads to this


[30-Aug-20 12:40 PM] Serenity#9645
anarchists are freedom to the max, kinda like communes just without a authority figure and structure. anarachy is no rules but with a understanding of respecting other peoples rights or else you get killed.


[30-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
anarchy doesn't mean "without law", just no overarching government body or hierarchy


[30-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Serenity#9645
id say this is more of a revolutionary movement


[30-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Crow#5457
revolution for what?


[30-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
a cultural revolution, maybe


[30-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Crow#5457
but no one's calling for the overthrow of the US government


[30-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Serenity#9645
anarchy doesn't mean "without law", just no overarching government body or hierarchy

so no government, kinda like respecting the individual rights? or else you will be killed?


[30-Aug-20 12:45 PM] Serenity#9645
government programs, police and presidential (agree or not). revolution, a fundamental change in political organization


[30-Aug-20 12:45 PM] Crow#5457
but there hasn't been any call for a fundamental change in political organization


[30-Aug-20 12:46 PM] Serenity#9645
or maybe this definition - activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation


[30-Aug-20 12:47 PM] Crow#5457
that doesn't really apply here either, it's always been about police accountability, even though class plays a part in who gets targetted by police brutality, the police are still not held accountable to the people in the vast majority of cases


[30-Aug-20 12:48 PM] Crow#5457
and even when they are, the worst they face is job loss for what would send anyone else straight to prison


[30-Aug-20 12:48 PM] Serenity#9645
maybe look at BLM official goals? We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages”


[30-Aug-20 12:49 PM] Serenity#9645
thats pretty socioeconomic


[30-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Serenity#9645
and guess what i want prison reform too, guess what the bills were shut down. i want police reform bill for that too, shut down. i want gang violence to end, programs for that? overshadowed and delegitimized. so many things i want to see get shut down


[30-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Crow#5457
raising your family differently isn't really a socioeconomic thing, even if some pundits would try to point to that as some sort of "degradation of our values" nonsense


[30-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Serenity#9645
so your republican village member, would you support him as part of your extended family? say he was a neo-nazi?


[30-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Crow#5457
why the leading question?


[30-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
yet another hypothetical I'm being told I have to play along with


[30-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Crow#5457
I'm tired of those


[30-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Serenity#9645
fair enough, its just a simple qustion but ok. but what about all the reform bills shut down?


[30-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
and for the record, you can socially ostricize someone while still economically supporting them


[30-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Crow#5457
but I've never personally lived in an extended family


[30-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Serenity#9645
why would you want to assist someone who destroys? thats even worse then marx theory of "he who does not work shall not eat" in the first phase


[30-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Crow#5457
that's not marx theory, that's a quote from lenin


[30-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Serenity#9645
my apologies then


[30-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Crow#5457
and even then, there is no widespread destruction across all of the US, there's only little pockets of singular buildings being burned down


[30-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Serenity#9645
you just gotta search buildings burned BLM protests and look at them all. fun fact some had people inside! (not to count the police buildings they tried to force closed and set on fire)


[30-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Crow#5457
it is not my place to prove your claims


[30-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Serenity#9645
but its 6 am im gonna head to bed, id look things up. alot of people have been killed and plenty more injured for this violence


[30-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Serenity#9645
https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/police-chief-emotional-over-protesters-burn-home-with-child-inside/

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[30-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/house-fire-virginia/

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[30-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Crow#5457
> But the Richmond Fire Department gave a different version of events.
> 
> According to Richmond Fire Lt. Christopher Armstrong, demonstrators did not set fire to the house, which was located on North Monroe Street, not Broad Street. Armstrong said that a car fire spread to the house and only affected the exterior of the building. When fire crews arrived, the occupants of the house were already safe outside and were unharmed. Armstrong said the cause of the car fire is currently undetermined.
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> And finally, protesters didn’t use vehicles to stop the fire truck from proceeding to the blaze, Armstrong said. Fire equipment was slowed en route by burning trash cans. Armstrong told us by email:


[30-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
> There was a single protestor initially impeding our response however multiple individuals (amount undetermined) joined the single protestor in stopping the truck from after it was already stopped. At least two of individuals threw objects at the fire truck, shortly thereafter they all ran past the fire truck as Richmond Police Officers came around the corner as a response for our request for help.


[30-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Crow#5457
> In response to our questions asking why the police chief and Fire Department gave differing version of events, Richmond police responded saying, “We don’t have details on the fire rescue – everyone is extremely busy with on-going protests.”
> 
> Because the Fire Department and the police chief provided different versions of events for reasons yet unknown to us, we rate this clam “Unproven.”


[30-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Crow#5457
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[30-Aug-20 02:35 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, that JESUS billboard in the background


[30-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/z56j06plUgs

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LegalEagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs
American Carnage at Lafayette Square
It's different when the president does it.  It's worse. 
If you can, please give to the ACLU and other organizations that defend protestors: https://action.aclu.org/give/now-v1


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[30-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reminder that this happend.


[30-Aug-20 02:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/874a1756a794b11e2823e416934d798f

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Activists: Militias tolerated, Kenosha protesters arrested
KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — Police officers in Kenosha were on alert after days of protests over the shooting of Jacob Blake by one of their colleagues, and they'd recently gotten a tip about “suspicious...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/a2f8b7c886dd4130839f7f445968ada7/3000.jpeg


[30-Aug-20 02:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/194c3556d455d3d4d03df1fc92d55a65

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Belarus cracks down on journalists, 2 AP staff deported
MOSCOW (AP) — Belarus, shaken by three weeks of massive protests against its authoritarian president, on Saturday cracked down hard on the news media, deporting some foreign journalists reporting...
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/e66cd798c59543018e7d89aec2a5f4d4/3000.jpeg


[30-Aug-20 02:52 PM] Pizzamovies#6050

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[30-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/esyMFOu8ZFE

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10 Tampa Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE
Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

►Subscribe: htt...
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[30-Aug-20 02:54 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/nRArltsEyH8

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NowThis News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRArltsEyH8
Police Are Attacking Journalists Covering George Floyd Protests | N...
Police are attacking journalists covering George Floyd protests throughout the U.S., firing rubber bullets, tear gas, and arresting clearly identified members of the press.
» Subscribe to NowThis: http://go.nowth.is/News_Subscribe
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[30-Aug-20 02:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://youtu.be/QFeewU0HhNE

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CBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFeewU0HhNE
Video at Buffalo protest shows police pushing 75-year-old man
Warning: This video contains graphic content. Two officers in Buffalo have been suspended without pay after video circulated online of riot police appearing to push a 75-year-old man during a protest against the death of George Floyd.
»»» Subscribe to CBC News to watch more v...
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[30-Aug-20 02:57 PM] Pizzamovies#6050

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[30-Aug-20 02:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But but but muh riots" https://youtu.be/xH8Zw8gjAEU

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BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH8Zw8gjAEU
George Floyd: attacks on reporters at protests - BBC News
Dozens of journalists covering anti-racism protests that have rocked the US have reported being targeted by security forces using tear gas, rubber bullets and pepper spray.

In many cases, they said it was despite showing clear press credentials.

Such attacks "are an unaccept...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xH8Zw8gjAEU/maxresdefault.jpg


[30-Aug-20 03:04 PM] Opponent#3498
```no one's calling for the overthrow of the US governmen```
well, you mentioned that the only way the protests stop is civil war. It comes fairly close to my tastes.


[30-Aug-20 03:07 PM] Opponent#3498
and leftist side aren't the only ones who believe that, so there might be some merit to this idea.


[30-Aug-20 03:08 PM] Opponent#3498
(yes, the other option is more government oversight, reforms etc, but come on, rapid radical change isn't happening overnight like people demand it should, civil war is more realistic than this)


[30-Aug-20 03:09 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess technically the point of civil war is define who composes the new government rather than remove it as an institution, so it's not an 'overthrow', but...


[30-Aug-20 03:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/rnc-used-video-of-barcelona-in-video-about-us-protests-2020-8

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The Republican National Committee used stock footage from a 2019 pr...
While the video's narrators talk about "rioting" and "crime" in the US, a 2019 video that shows a fiery Barcelona demonstration appears on the screen.
https://i.insider.com/5f4a7c617ffa48002894d05f?width=1200&format=jpeg


[30-Aug-20 03:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> The Republican National Committee used stock footage from a 2019 protest in Spain to show rioting in 'Biden's America'


[30-Aug-20 03:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Rnc lieing to make them selves look better? Shocker

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[30-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
the fakenews reporters deserved it very well

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[30-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
@Opponent, no I didn't


[30-Aug-20 03:26 PM] Crow#5457
I said either the issue will be addressed, or there'll likely be civil war


[30-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Crow#5457
addressing the issue is a way to stop the protests


[30-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"Fake news" = any news that makes orange man not look great


[30-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
"adressing the issue", there is non if cops shoot cirminals that attempt to attack them with weapons


[30-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
Fakenews = lies = CNN etc


[30-Aug-20 03:28 PM] Opponent#3498
@Crow well, it _won't_ be adressed because it _can't_ be.


[30-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Opponent#3498
what people demand is make everything wrong into right. And that's 'moderate' people, ones that don't demand tribute from business owners and don't want blacks to become the new whites, the priviledged ones


[30-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So yeah "fake news" is just a catch all term that decribes when the news reports facts that make trump look bad


[30-Aug-20 03:30 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
they arent facts, they are straight disgusting lies


[30-Aug-20 03:30 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
what is typical for leftists


[30-Aug-20 03:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
Oh it's this fascist again.


[30-Aug-20 03:30 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
oh its this lefterrorist again


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
M8 you're a nazi, shut up, noone likes you, I got DMed about you by concerned citizens lol.


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years

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Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years
Trump said renegotiating trade deals would help.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/article_images/donaldtrump_030716getty.jpg


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
yeah insulting everyone as nazi sure


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
I thought you were banned for being a straight up nazi


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Crow#5457
what do you mean it can't be?


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
But you're here again I see.


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
@Crow  i tought insults cross the line?


[30-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Opponent#3498
well what can the government realistically offer you?


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.usdebtclock.org/


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Everyone who doesn’t support mass riots/protests is *racist*


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's not an insult, it's literally you were banned from here for being a nazi openly afaik.


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Us treshery dept is now fake news


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Opponent#3498
new laws? Okay. The old ones don't seem to be followed. More oversight? Okay, that requires a brand new structure to build from the ground up, and that takes X years before having effect.


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
no, she was muted for going full attack mode immediately out the gates


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
calling everything left terrorist and whatnot


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
im not, but u r a left terrorist


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
prove it


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Crow#5457
or I can just mute you again


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
Name one act of terrorism I have done


[30-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
calling me nazi is fine then or what crow


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
i see ur bias


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Disagreement equals nazism apparently


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
calling someone a terrorist isn't the same as calling them a nazi, nazis can literally just be standing there doing nothing and be perfectly fine


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
You posted nazi shit before being muted before and people DMed me about how much of a nazi you were being lmao, centrists DMed me.


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] dissociativity#8391
Like that was weird as shit.


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Crow#5457
calling someone a terrorist implies that they go out and blow shit up or shoot people


[30-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
9th Circuit Court is fake news

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-border-wall-funding-illegal/2020/06/26/0d86a42c-b7cf-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html%3foutputType=amp

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Trump’s use of military funds for border wall construction is illeg...
Trump’s transfer last year of $2.5 billion in military funds to pay for the barrier was an illegal overreach of executive authority, a three-judge panel ruled.


[30-Aug-20 03:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'm not going to name any names of who contacted me but it was a wild turn of events   because I didn't think you'd matter to anyone but they were horrified at you.


[30-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Calling someone a Nazi implies they have  prejudice against Jews and minorities and have a militaristic lifestyle


[30-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1NF0NU

Ww1 dead people are fake news

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Trump cancels WW1 memorial at U.S. cemetery in France due to rain
President Donald Trump could not attend a commemoration in France for U.S. soldiers and marines killed during World War One on Saturday because rain made it impossible to arrange transport, the White House said.
https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20181110&t=2&i=1324150339&w=1200&r=LYNXNPEEA90LL


[30-Aug-20 03:34 PM] dissociativity#8391
So that's why I remember you, you shocked centrists so much they DMed me.


[30-Aug-20 03:35 PM] dissociativity#8391
Me, someone who they very much disagree with, because I was involved in a conversation.


[30-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
wow the only thing to be shocked about is ur left extremist shift


[30-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity @Lexi Fyrestar, drop it


[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
tell that guy, he attacked me


[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/07/28/stella-immanuel-hydroxychloroquine-video-trump-americas-frontline-doctors/

Trumps own tweets are fake news

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Trump retweeted a video with false covid-19 claims. One doctor in i...
Stella Immanuel, who appeared in a video that was retweeted by President Trump but banned by social media companies, is known for making outlandish claims.


[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/9f4d40fec7f0289941c510200794c2b2

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Trump's intel chief ends election security briefings to Hill
WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation’s top intelligence official has informed Congress that his office will no longer give in-person election security briefings on Capitol Hill, a move that raised concern...
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[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
thats fake that it would be fake


[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Don't make him turn this car around


[30-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Lol most sources about Covid are false anyways


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
@Crow


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
These are what I was sent.


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Everything bad about trump is magicly fake


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
thats a ban


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Opponent#3498
> Me, someone who they very much disagree with, because I was involved in a conversation.
fight fire with fire. Not unreasonable. :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Crow#5457
.. what's a ban?


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] dissociativity#8391
What is?


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Wait, why are people posting DM's for?


[30-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse reeee trump good stop saying trump bad


[30-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
also most of that is faked, @Crow posting private dm is a ban reason as it has been said before


[30-Aug-20 03:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
This is a dm?


[30-Aug-20 03:38 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
What?


[30-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Crow#5457
I assume it's to provide evidence that lexi is a nazi and fascist


[30-Aug-20 03:38 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't see any DMs?
This is from a public chat.


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
thats actually considered illegal, and ill post it to discord saftey team that this server supports it


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
Maybe don't be a nazi in public huh.


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
No, it's not, this is screenshots from a public chat.


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Posting screen shots of public chats is illeagal now


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
it is NOT public, it is a closed private group you fucktard


[30-Aug-20 03:39 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I came here for politics, not people flinging shit at each other


[30-Aug-20 03:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
Discord, known for not taking down fascist servers and supporting fascists 😂


[30-Aug-20 03:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
I only remembered you because of concerned members of the community


[30-Aug-20 03:40 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Can you two please quit fighting like children


[30-Aug-20 03:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
This really seems like damage control, go report me if you wanna lmao.


[30-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
Discord only deletes accounts doing criminal shit as you scum


[30-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity, delete the last one, that's the only one that isn't immediately recognizable as public (it looks just like a private DM)


[30-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Lexi Fyrestar#0517
too late fucktard


[30-Aug-20 03:41 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pizzamovies look no one supports the riots but the abuse by American police has gone on for way too long and massive reform is needed


[30-Aug-20 03:41 PM] dissociativity#8391
It has 3 users


[30-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
banned


[30-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Crow#5457
(that still means delete the last one)


[30-Aug-20 03:42 PM] dissociativity#8391
Sorry about that I just knew from past experience exactly what they were going to do, derail everything into bad faith.


[30-Aug-20 03:42 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
How does a crow swing a ban hammer


[30-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Do they do it with mouth or beak


[30-Aug-20 03:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
Here are all the others for transparency since I had to delete the whole post.

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[30-Aug-20 03:43 PM] dissociativity#8391
We must keep our communities safe from those who only wish to harm us.


[30-Aug-20 03:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
Not to mention the fact that before being muted they posted shit exactly like this.


[30-Aug-20 03:44 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
@dissociativity enough with the screenshots; if someone challenges your credibility and starts throwing wild accusations, they're not going to take anything you say as credible. Let the mods do their job


[30-Aug-20 03:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
I didn't want a bad faith repeat.


[30-Aug-20 03:44 PM] dissociativity#8391
This is quicker.
They showed their true colours that way.


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So did you...


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
Better than wasting our time and energy arguing with a fascist.
I did nothing wrong.


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
you called them a nazi right out of the gate


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
Because they are one lol.


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
don't preach when you instigated it


[30-Aug-20 03:45 PM] dissociativity#8391
That's not an insult, that person just is a nazi.


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I'm going to get some breakfast


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
There was no instigating, I was preventing disaster.


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] dissociativity#8391
I knew the mods would have to deal with worse if I let the infected tissue spread.


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
you prevented disaster by starting a disaster


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] Crow#5457
@dissociativity, lexi was about to get muted again anyway


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This entire thing was a massive shitfest


[30-Aug-20 03:46 PM] Crow#5457
there wasn't any need to post the screenshots


[30-Aug-20 03:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
I'd there's a next time I'll just humiliate the nazi nice and fair then


[30-Aug-20 03:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
It's easy to get people that unhinged to simply show their views openly.


[30-Aug-20 03:47 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
the more you instigate people, the more damage you do as a whole


[30-Aug-20 03:47 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
everyone ends up looking bad in the end


[30-Aug-20 03:47 PM] dissociativity#8391
Engaging in a dialogue with this person was only gonna do damage lol


[30-Aug-20 03:48 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
then you should have let the mods deal with it instead of starting shit


[30-Aug-20 03:48 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Now you got what you wanted, so any sort of extra flinging will only damage yourself. Please, cut it out


[30-Aug-20 03:48 PM] dissociativity#8391
Whatever m8, was only doing you a favour


[30-Aug-20 03:48 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
i prefer actual moderation to do favors for me


[30-Aug-20 03:49 PM] dissociativity#8391
Sometimes you need to egg them on for them to peel off their mask more quickly.


[30-Aug-20 03:50 PM] Crow#5457
egging on is bad faith


[30-Aug-20 03:50 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
'i'm not touching you' tactics


[30-Aug-20 03:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
I apologise.


[30-Aug-20 03:50 PM] dissociativity#8391
That one was simply too bad an egg, dare I say.


[30-Aug-20 03:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
I wouldn't pull that on anyone else here period, and some of you make me butthurt


[30-Aug-20 03:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
We got an understanding about that?


[30-Aug-20 03:51 PM] dissociativity#8391
Hold me to it.


[30-Aug-20 03:52 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I rather just let others with higher power judge them accordingly


[30-Aug-20 03:52 PM] dissociativity#8391
Eh, well I'm making you a pinkie pie swear okay?


[30-Aug-20 03:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ5yoMFlLzU1aVKARzS-VecKcUotaXezmguCQ&usqp=CAU

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[30-Aug-20 03:54 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
That hurt. I know it was a meme, but....


[30-Aug-20 03:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
But, socialists fought for that shit and strikes for it got nasty.


[30-Aug-20 03:55 PM] dissociativity#8391
Cops do just be shooting and even bombing people to break strikes in ye olde days tho


[30-Aug-20 03:56 PM] dissociativity#8391
Remember the battle of Blair Mountain o7


[30-Aug-20 03:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Nazis tried to storm the Reichstag today


[30-Aug-20 03:57 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53964147

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Anger after attempt to storm German parliament
Far-right activists broke away from a large protest in Berlin against coronavirus restrictions.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/13E95/production/_114175518_7b312ecf-5466-471c-9f3d-644fce104887.jpg

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[30-Aug-20 03:59 PM] dissociativity#8391
Damn, first as a tragedy, then as a farce

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[30-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53963625

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53963625
Fatal Portland shooting as rival protesters clash
A pro-Trump procession was met by counter-protesters in another tense night in the Oregon city.
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[30-Aug-20 04:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Looks like someone on the pro-trump side got murdered last night


[30-Aug-20 04:06 PM] Crow#5457
surprised there aren't a billion videos out showing it yet


[30-Aug-20 04:06 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I got one but subtitles don't fit i find


[30-Aug-20 04:07 PM] Crow#5457
the trump supporters and BLM protesters were fighting all day yesterday, but once the majority of the trump supporters left, it got declared an unlawful assembly


[30-Aug-20 04:07 PM] Crow#5457
I guess a few came back at night to fight them again


[30-Aug-20 04:08 PM] Crow#5457
I get the feeling this is a direct consequence of the shooting in wisconsin, basically a call to arms to embolden trump and police supporters to go out and start fighting protesters


[30-Aug-20 04:09 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
From a first glance it looks like a trump supporter maced a guy and got shoot for it


[30-Aug-20 04:09 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
But the footage is choppy


[30-Aug-20 04:10 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like an excessive escalation, but depending on the type of mace, it could possibly be considered justified


[30-Aug-20 04:10 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I agree, i just hope more info comes out soon


[30-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I find it bizarre how few news sites are covering the Reichstag thing


[30-Aug-20 04:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Imagine if a few hundred people had tried to storm the Capitol


[30-Aug-20 04:15 PM] Opponent#3498
```and for the record, you can socially ostricize someone while still economically supporting them
but I've never personally lived in an extended family```
that's the primary reason you believe that btw :twismug:  'Stick and stones' is how the situation here would be best described. You hate someone and it's mutual, yet you're giving them money - does not compute.


[30-Aug-20 04:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
George Floyd, how your death has fractured America...


[30-Aug-20 04:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
It was bear mace afaik.


[30-Aug-20 04:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
The huge poof of gas looking stuff in the vid is it


[30-Aug-20 04:17 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
(for the record my personal opinion is that his death was the final straw and all the violence from that point onward is just the burning after the explosion)


[30-Aug-20 04:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Blue light is reflecting off of it from nearby lights


[30-Aug-20 04:18 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I saw the riots as a natural consequence of a long-ignored problem that brings oscatrization  to those who speak about it


[30-Aug-20 04:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
Well, that's the reality, isn't it? Peace was tried for decades, nothing improved under Obama, under bush, ect.


[30-Aug-20 04:18 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
that NFA player, for example


[30-Aug-20 04:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
People forget the riots under Obama. Pretend he was leftist and somehow did anything about it.

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[30-Aug-20 04:19 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but why didn't it explode under him then?


[30-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
it helps that BLM supports the democrats on the upcoming elections. No reason not to capitalise on the unrest.


[30-Aug-20 04:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Obama was great but his hands were tied


[30-Aug-20 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he wasnt stoking the flames either, and we werent under a national pandemic


[30-Aug-20 04:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I may be naive but Obama's reign was pretty peaceful from where I was watching

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[30-Aug-20 04:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
it was when Trump took hold that shit started going south


[30-Aug-20 04:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
right now with everyone out of a job, and everyone home, there;s more people to pay attention to this shit and no jobs to distract from it


[30-Aug-20 04:21 PM] Audrey#7852
I remember reading about Mumia Abu Jamal years ago and nothing changed since


[30-Aug-20 04:22 PM] Audrey#7852
Racism is too deeply anchored into Americans


[30-Aug-20 04:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
Easiest way to bust unions is to stop them from happening with racism yes.


[30-Aug-20 04:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
Racism prevents class solidarity, always has.


[30-Aug-20 04:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile you have Trump stoking the flames with unlabeled federal cops, speeches about how police should be "rough" on people they arrest, and entire speeches about how only the protestors are thugs and unpatriotic


[30-Aug-20 04:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
forget the protesters


[30-Aug-20 04:24 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
he called Colin (the dude who kneeled during the anthem) a "SOB" apparently


[30-Aug-20 04:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yeah, all that did is made conservatives butthurt, peaceful protest just gave them a twitter field day at most. It was simply theatre.


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
Give them a show and they'll clap or boo, make them uncomfortable and something may change.


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Do it more than once if need be?


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they did it several times


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the George Floyd protests were just winding down when the Jacob thing happened


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
People are done performing.


[30-Aug-20 04:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in several different sports


[30-Aug-20 04:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
If a peaceful theatre performance was enough this wouldn't be happening.


[30-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Audrey#7852
If these protests doesn't come out in any change, anyways, Trump is done. Not listening to your people is a political suicide.


[30-Aug-20 04:26 PM] Audrey#7852
"But think of the small businesses!"


[30-Aug-20 04:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
Aight I'm sleep, night night nerds


[30-Aug-20 04:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Goodnight sis!


[30-Aug-20 04:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Like I said, Floyd was the last straw


[30-Aug-20 04:28 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
if they solved the problem from all the peaceful protests done then he would still be alive and the whole chaos wouldn't happen. But here we are


[30-Aug-20 04:29 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, and so long as injustifiable deaths of black people are communicated and the authorities refuse to deescalate or buckle under the pressure to reform, people won't wind down imo


[30-Aug-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
old article https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44232979

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[30-Aug-20 04:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump: NFL kneelers 'maybe shouldn't be in country'


[30-Aug-20 04:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well, ***don't***


[30-Aug-20 04:30 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I am hoping it won't wind down


[30-Aug-20 04:30 PM] Audrey#7852
Trump is the kind of guy who will escape to Russia once he looses his reelection.


[30-Aug-20 04:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not only do authorities refuse to deescalate, they seem to revel in escalating this shit higher


[30-Aug-20 04:31 PM] Audrey#7852
'The answer to police brutality is MORE police brutality'


[30-Aug-20 04:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
what's jarring is that other nations can see this happening in the US, and nations that have an agenda against the US (read: Russia, Iran, China, etc) now get ammo to fire back


[30-Aug-20 04:31 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I know the nations I said are hypocritical themselves but this really isn't making the US look better


[30-Aug-20 04:32 PM] Audrey#7852
The bigger picture takes us to geopolitical influences and ties, again with Russia I agree.


[30-Aug-20 04:34 PM] Audrey#7852
It was last year when the collusion made the news, we all knew it was over for Trump and he made it! Later with the Ukraine influence was a part of the same deal, Trump back-scratching Putin's interests and being influenced by. Lioke Russia is an example to follow. Repression and control of the press.


[30-Aug-20 04:36 PM] Crow#5457
@PzZ1-TD1, because obama actually addressed the issue and passed reforms pretty quickly (basically barring the military from selling surplus gear to the police departments)


[30-Aug-20 04:37 PM] Crow#5457
even if what he did didn't actually solve any of the issues that allows police brutality to continue without accountability, the fact that he did something tangible was enough to allay the protesters


[30-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOAOVbyfjA0

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[30-Aug-20 04:38 PM] Crow#5457
they go over that in this video


[30-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Audrey#7852
It's terrifying.


[30-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Is that a TANK?


[30-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Ungoliant#7236
no no


[30-Aug-20 04:42 PM] Ungoliant#7236
it's a "peace vehicule"


[30-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Ungoliant#7236
it even has a little antena on top to diffuse "friendship waves"


[30-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Audrey#7852
And it's called a MRAP! Here it has a different meaning, 'Mouvement de Résistance et d'Amitié entre les Peuples'

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[30-Aug-20 04:43 PM] Ungoliant#7236
pfft


[30-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Ungoliant#7236
what an unfortunate coincidence of names...

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[30-Aug-20 04:44 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Someone say MRAP?

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[30-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Audrey#7852
Militarizing police, giving them assault rifles and combat suits is really the signs you live in a fascist state


[30-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Ungoliant#7236
I mean, the CRS look pretty well armored as well


[30-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes they are! That's what it reminds me, riot gears, rifles...


[30-Aug-20 04:45 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
It could also mean a population that is out of control and turning into an anarchist wave


[30-Aug-20 04:46 PM] Audrey#7852
Not at all, it means the government is using more repression.


[30-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
*Cops need body armor and rifles when people also have rifles and throw moltov cocktails at them*


[30-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Audrey#7852
People armed in protests are a very small minority, not even a percent.


[30-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
when was the last time armed protesters shot at police?


[30-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
A percentage is still a factor no matter how big it is. Cops carry weapons to protect themselves, not you


[30-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Hmmm, well to be fair, with all the heavy weaponry readily available in the US, it's not surprising police gets more militirized


[30-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Crow#5457
no... when was the last time what you claim they're gearing for actually happened?


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
“Just because it hasn’t happened doesn’t mean it won’t”


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
because the gear was originally intended to be used against active shooters and armed terrorists


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Audrey#7852
People who are protesting are protesting against violence due to police being armed. It simply don't work like that.


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Just because my house has a 5% chance of burning down means I don’t need a smoke detector


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Yeah, your video addresses that Crow


[30-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Crow#5457
because there were cases when the police were actually outgunned by bank robbers and the like


[30-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Crow#5457
it used to be illegal for them to use that gear for general police work (riot control is considered general police work)


[30-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Audrey#7852
In these cases yes, police always has been armed, a gun is sufficient, not a M16 or AR15


[30-Aug-20 04:50 PM] Audrey#7852
This isn't Irak! This is your people! If there's a civil war ongoing let it know!


[30-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Ungoliant#7236
actually this whole mess is partly because of "surplus military equipement" from wars, being given to police


[30-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Crow#5457
there is literally no reason for them to be breaking out the big guns when the people they're facing don't even have guns to begin with


[30-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Crow#5457
it's like needing a revolver to deal with a fussy baby


[30-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Audrey#7852
I think the wars Americans have been involved into have forged the cult of high power weapons and trained for guerilla and more theaters on their land.


[30-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
People are smart enough not to shoot at cops. Protestors may be low IQ but their not stupid.

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[30-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Audrey#7852
'Protestors may be low IQ'???? Care to explain your view, Pizzamovies?


[30-Aug-20 04:52 PM] Ungoliant#7236
TBH i'd put the biggest cause of all the issues into one category: training


[30-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Police in france are trained all the time, they need to go through courses for years


[30-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Ungoliant#7236
in the US it seems that you just need a certification


[30-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Audrey#7852
If Americans does that to their own citizens imagine what they really did in Iraq, Afghanistan and all the countries they attacked.


[30-Aug-20 04:54 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Imagine standing in the heat. Blocking a highway, pissing people off, not contributing at all to society except to keep me from getting to work. Low IQ indeed


[30-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Crow#5457
stop with the strawmans


[30-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Don’t complain straw man when you have no retort crow.


[30-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Audrey#7852
That's a protest, Pizzamovies... They are certainly more smarter to act and fight, your comparison is just racist and borderline not political.


[30-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Crow#5457
they aren't protesting to keep you from getting to work, they're protesting to raise awareness about a gross injustice in our society

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[30-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Crow#5457
why does that matter? bad faith is bad faith, no matter how it's presented


[30-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
"our people are getting shot by the police!" "Sorry but my job is more important! How do you dare blocking the way?"


[30-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Okay....? Good job raising awareness when you piss off everyone backed up for 20 miles, then proceed to cry when they get run over. And don’t get me started on dragging innocent people out of their vehicles


[30-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Holy shit Pizzamoves please stop.


[30-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Crow#5457
how many people who were "dragged out" were video taped trying to run people over?


[30-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Imagine needing to be explained the 50Mph highway is for cars. Not people. Holy fuck that’s dense


[30-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Crow#5457
and purposefully running people over for exercising what is a constitutionally protected right is just as illegal as purposefully running people over


[30-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
BLM is a march of people fighting for their right to live and exist, if you are like others who don't understand this you are just selfish!


[30-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I’m selfish for wanting to live my life and not have it stopped by others? Okay


[30-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, protesters have also been ran over, several times!


[30-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Crow#5457
a normal person who was handling their vehicle responsibly wouldn't be driving at 50+ MPH when there's a bunch of people surrounding them


[30-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes that's very selfish, if you think running over protestors in tears because one of their brothers got shot by the police you are no better


[30-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
A normal person wouldn’t impede the common persons right to travel and live their life either


[30-Aug-20 05:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> I’m selfish for wanting to live my life and not have it stopped by others? Okay
@Pizzamovies  color me if i'm wrong but believing this society is at all fine and acceptable and raging at people for realizing it is, indeed, selfish as fuck


[30-Aug-20 05:00 PM] Audrey#7852
How can we have a civil conversation with people with such a mindset? Like previously saying 'I am ready to kill to defend my property'


[30-Aug-20 05:00 PM] wren#0114
:juicebox:


[30-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, being upset that their fellow countrymen are being shot and killed by a seemingly rogue group of government enforcers with no oversight or accountability is a pretty good reason for a normal person to be out protesting

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[30-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Audrey#7852
America has a problem. Guns gives people a sense of authority and a right of life and death.


[30-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
“Things are really bad right now, but let’s make these people’s lives difficult because ours is”


[30-Aug-20 05:02 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Because ours is"
Everyone's lives are difficult right now tbh. It's just that most people don't notice it


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Adding to it is not helping at all. The sentiment that things have to get worse before they get better is utter bullshit and people should not be subjected to follow that


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
if everyone whose lives were difficult right now (basically everyone) went out to protest the things making their lives difficult, maybe things would stop being so difficult


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Audrey#7852
It's like saying, 'My life is difficult, my business is making less profits because the coronavirus, and I won't afford my kids a new playstation this year!' kind of difficulty


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Opponent#3498
or maybe they'd only got worse. Who knows.


[30-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Crow#5457
they could, but that would depend on the government response


[30-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
“Let me sit in traffic for 6 hours, then try to explain to my boss why I’m late. Forget a new PlayStation, how about paying the bills”


[30-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Audrey#7852
People who are homeowners, live in a calm neighborhood, managing to ever compare with people of color living in poverty, in ghettos strugglying day by day to eat and getting shot.


[30-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Audrey#7852
You deserve to get stuck in the traffick. You have plenty of time to think about what is happening and less about your comfort


[30-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Crow#5457
having a boss who will hold being stuck in traffic against you (something entirely out of your control) is one of the problems making everything difficult for people in the US


[30-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
you deserve losing what you have to think about those who think they have less :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 05:05 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> “Let me sit in traffic for 6 hours, then try to explain to my boss why I’m late. Forget a new PlayStation, how about paying the bills”
@Pizzamovies  if missing work for a single day and not being able to convince your boss of a justifiable effect results in you being put under that kind of stress, then your society is fucked up, yes


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
I like this. This shouldve been the original BLM call. It would be over by now.


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
You don't deserve it, you don't deserve all this ! You don't deserve to act like you are more important than these protestors, you stop and listen.


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Blaming the policy of one company on society is stupid.


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Stop, and listen. You want this to end? Become an actor and help things change.


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] wren#0114
people have a right to carry on their business without being harassed daily


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not just one company -- all companies that operate under a frame of right-to-work laws and other measures to curb workplace organization


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
so, take a side and fight civil war is what you're saying. An excellent call.


[30-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
People have a right to live, and a right to protest, WREN. These people protest because they are being murdered, WREN.


[30-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
People have a right to protest and believe what they want. People also have the right to live their lives and be happy as well


[30-Aug-20 05:07 PM] wren#0114
yes, and people have a right to disagree with the protests too


[30-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Wren, please. I don't know your story, I don't know your background, it's about empathy.


[30-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
but then they'll be labeled racists, fascists, nazis and cancelled on social media :wheeze:


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
I mean, people are allowed to react to your speech


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Don’t shame someone for not caring about a movement that doesn’t involve them. Life is hard enough without adding more things to worry about.


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
bottom line is, people have a lot of rights. And all of them seem to clash with each other.


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
less rights, perhaps? :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
if your speech isn't considered socially acceptable, maybe you should consider why it's socially unacceptable instead of being mad about people not liking you


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Whatever, but just don't go around claiming life in the US is plenty and acceptable


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i mean, a shit ton of people dont have the right to live their lives and be happy as well considering thousands upon millions of people are facing eviction and unemployment, but sure


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Rights are not a zero sum game, it's just that the people in power right now would rather maintain the status quo (which is to say, being able to exercise more rights than others)


[30-Aug-20 05:08 PM] wren#0114
there's gradations to the protests. peaceful protests are fine, blocking the roads is sleezy and going to cause conflict, pulling innocent people out of their cars and beating them is unacceptable, and setting even single car fires is completely lawless and unacceptable


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
It may be selfish but life is too short and cruel for that


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
Wingbeat you'd be right, but none of the sides involved are the ones in power.


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] wren#0114
let alone the people burning city blocks or looting


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Audrey#7852
'I am cancelled on Twitter or Youtube for showing how I have little compassion and not caring about basic human rights?' Wait... We're talking about digital identity and posts on internet, that don't compare!


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Life might be short and cruel, yes, but how about making it less short or cruel for the people that come after you?


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Opponent#3498
the side in power sits pretty and prepares for the all-but-predetermined election cycle.


[30-Aug-20 05:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
So they *claim* that giving disenfranchised people more rights will take away some of theirs, when in actuality all that's being taken away is the abuse


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you think there's a choice? Violence is the only thing that remains for them.


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And the people in power have managed to convince a large number of people that they, too, are privileged


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Audrey#7852
Ignore this violence and it will go on, it should go on.


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
well, if people employ violence, they shouldn't complain overmuch when it's employed against them :shrugpony:


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Opponent#3498
they can, but they more they do complain, the more comedic it becomes.


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
If violence solves violence, why are people complaining?


[30-Aug-20 05:10 PM] wren#0114
it should not go on, the violence must end, and then the peaceful protests would be fine and beneficial


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> well, if people employ violence,
Virtually none of the protesters are employing violence on a significant scale.


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] wren#0114
the violent actors are reliably usurping the peaceful protests, and it's driving people away from the cause of BLM


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's also remarkably easy to ignore a peaceful protest


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Practically all of the time, it's the government that acts first and escalates tensions through violence


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't encourage it but I understand why people who are mad, attacked, victim of systemic racism ends up in the streets and destroy material goods.


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 then what's with the 'violence is the only recourse' rhethoric we have of the lovely @Audrey here?


[30-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I mean just like how we focus on the few murders by cops, we focus on the few riots.


[30-Aug-20 05:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
At least, by the definition of "peaceful protest" that the right are putting forward - staying out of the way, not making noise, holding up signs, and going home before bedtime


[30-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Audrey#7852
I've talked with people who have been accused of setting cars and trash on fire on their districts in protests for a while. They're never heard.


[30-Aug-20 05:12 PM] wren#0114
Understand their destruction or not, there must remain law and order, and changes must happen according to the social compact of our system. Otherwise it's anarchy


[30-Aug-20 05:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> @BadgingBadger🦄🌈 then what's with the 'violence is the only recourse' rhethoric we have of the lovely Audrey here?
@Opponent  
Because the US has a government that refuses to compromise with the protest movement


[30-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Audrey#7852
So demand these changes to happen.


[30-Aug-20 05:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In cases like this, workplace stoppage and sabotage are necessary to enforce the movement's demands and violence in the streets becomes inevitable


[30-Aug-20 05:13 PM] wren#0114
I'm for police accountability


[30-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
@BadgingBadger🦄🌈 so, make the first move and then don't complain afterwards.


[30-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Crow#5457
reminder that people against the civil rights movement protests also tried incredibly hard to paint the small amount of violence at every protest as being the majority


[30-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean really. 'Look at us we're so peaceful, even if violence is our only recourse as we keep repeating'


[30-Aug-20 05:14 PM] wren#0114
it's not painting, it's real destruction, to where there's mass exodus from a lot of major cities


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] wren#0114
which means those with cash are able to leave, which means those areas are going to be more impoverished because no spending in the area and no one wanting to move in and invest


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Advice for Wren, Pizzamoves, Opponent, if you want the looting and violence to stop. You take some time, sit, and listen to what the BLM protestors want, why they are acting like this, and demand their voices to be heard!


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
When people say they want the protests to be more peaceful, what they're usually saying is they want them to be less inconvenient. How dare they block traffic! How dare they strike from work! How dare they make *me* late for work! How dare they take over the news cycle! I just want to grill!


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
the mass exodus is because of the exorbitant cost of living, not because of the protests


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] wren#0114
especially in places where people burned down city blocks in during the early protests, then got rebuilt, then burned down again last month


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Opponent#3498
advice for Audrey, stick to Twitter <3


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, it's the same ideology behind crossing the picket line.


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Audrey#7852
Ah it feels weird to suddenly become poor, have a taste on how minorities lives, perhaps that will make you think...


[30-Aug-20 05:15 PM] Crow#5457
being allowed to work from home is allowing people to move further out from the cities where it's still stupidly expensive, but slightly less so


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And crossing the picket line helps dissolve the effectiveness of the strike. Don't be a scab


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
the problem with the "few murders by cops" is that there's nothing being done to address the issue


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Crow#5457
the peaceful protesters are being put down the same as the violent rioters


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] wren#0114
Audry, I'm open to the debate of BLM cause, but I will not accept bullying and violent pressure as the means to any end.


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Opponent#3498
scab is a proletariat union thing though :twismug: Not gonna fly too well I think.


[30-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I mean here in Philly, a 2 bedroom apartment is only like 800$ a month. Can’t speak for other cities but that’s pretty livable

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[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
And why is it livable?


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
It was the means to the end of the USA being its own country


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that seems like a kinda important one


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
for most people that;s not livable


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Because I work part time at Lowe’s making 10.50$ an hour, 40 hours a week and still have enough for Nitro


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Audrey#7852
Not everyone makes 800$... Do you have financial support or aids to pay these bills?


[30-Aug-20 05:17 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cities being livable and affordable are often the result of an active and agitating working class within them


[30-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
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[30-Aug-20 05:18 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In short, the same stuff you condemn is responsible for allowing you to live more comfortably


[30-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Todd 2020


[30-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Audrey#7852
That's where you understand people like Pizzamoves are out of reality, with a salary in the 1300ish USD or something you can't understand.

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[30-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Audrey#7852
The boot.

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[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Pizzamovies rent isn't the only expence tho


[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] wren#0114
need jobs


[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Sometimes it's as simple as *not having access to a grocery store*


[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] wren#0114
need to not destroy your own neighborhoods with your own small businesses


[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I make less than a 1000 a month and live independently. It’s possible, people finds ways to complicate it


[30-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
food, utiltys, car, gas, inschrence, helth, medaction, cleaning


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
> 1000 usd salary in US
> no 👢


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
all of these are expencies ontop of rent


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
wren, the problem with this take is that it's just not happening on any sort of large scale


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
pizza, don't you receive housing benefits from being in the military?


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.goarmy.com/benefits/money/allowances-covering-the-cost-of-living.html

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Allowances: Covering the Cost of Living
In addition to salary and bonuses, the Army provides allowances for housing, meals and uniforms.
https://offload.goarmy.com/content/dam/goarmy/logo/army_logo.gif


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Opponent#3498
it's like... Audrey, are you for real? It feels like you don't just live in a Twitter bubble, you live in a bubble period, with no understanding of anything but the theoretical joys of communism


[30-Aug-20 05:20 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
No that’s only if your active, I’m 100% discharged


[30-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
If you live in a city, odds are your not driving. There is always a store within walking distance or bus distance


[30-Aug-20 05:21 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Depends


[30-Aug-20 05:21 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
Like, it doesn't matter how cheap it is to buy groceries, if you don't have a stove or even a kitchen, and all you have access to is takeout food and convenience store takis... you won't be able to dig yourself out of that situation, 'cause if that's the case for food then it's also a problem for transportation, utilities, and so on


[30-Aug-20 05:22 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Cities have richer and poorer neighborhoods, often


[30-Aug-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.benefits.va.gov/benefits/character_of_discharge.asp

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VA.gov | Veterans Affairs
Apply for and manage the VA benefits and services you’ve earned as a Veteran, Servicemember, or family member—like health care, disability, education, and more.
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[30-Aug-20 05:22 PM] Crow#5457
there's still some benefits after being discharged


[30-Aug-20 05:22 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
then you get to rural areas where everything is spread out for miles around and if you dont have transport, you;re pretty fucked


[30-Aug-20 05:23 PM] wren#0114
military helped me pay for college


[30-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Okay here's my bills: I earn 2400€/mo. I consider myself actually privileged. 730€/mo in apartment, not including service and charges, 50€ for internet/TV, 130€ gas and heating, car insurance, apartment insurance, books and other content to stay up to date at work, meetups, organizations and associations, car fuel, food, clothing. At the end of the month I have 40, 50€ left for myself. Also I earn less than a man who would get paid 2500 to 2700.


[30-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
You don’t live in the US?


[30-Aug-20 05:23 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I know for a fact that I'm in better shape than other people making the same amount of money I do because I don't have any debt, I have adequate transport, I have access to groceries, I have a house, appliances, utilities, and I *don't* have a lot of costs that would keep me down


[30-Aug-20 05:23 PM] Audrey#7852
I live in France.


[30-Aug-20 05:24 PM] wren#0114
debt is evil


[30-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
*this guy*


[30-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, they really know what they're talking about :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 05:24 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes people get in debt, I still pay for a leasing for my car.


[30-Aug-20 05:25 PM] wren#0114
debt sucks, and it's harder to avoid when you don't have much money


[30-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
I've been trying to get a job for the last five years, still don't have one. Wish I could even apply for a loan without a co signer all my fam has bad credit.


[30-Aug-20 05:26 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Welphare is the only reason why i'm here today


[30-Aug-20 05:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Welfare is essential for a lot of people, a lot of parents live with allocation familiales here. But hopefully education here is free.


[30-Aug-20 05:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Not always healthcare.


[30-Aug-20 05:27 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Almost screwed myself over by getting a girl pregnant and having a child. Would have thrown me into the slum faster than anything.


[30-Aug-20 05:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you do avoid debt sucessfully, you dont have a credit score and thus have no mobility in the housing market


[30-Aug-20 05:28 PM] Crow#5457
not being able to have children in the US is another big problem and a reason why the US is going to experience a major worker shortage in a few decades just like japan is currently experiencing


[30-Aug-20 05:29 PM] Opponent#3498
they can always import more :twismug:


[30-Aug-20 05:29 PM] wren#0114
yeah I'm wrestling with the idea of rent vs mortgage and it's making me sad. Investigating tiny houses


[30-Aug-20 05:29 PM] wren#0114
allergic to debt


[30-Aug-20 05:30 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Having a kid would add about another 700-1200$ in expenses. Yikes. ~~not even gonna think about child support laws~~


[30-Aug-20 05:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i have no credit score, the only way i;m apparently getting a house of my own is if i manage to save up thousands of dollars and pay it all off at once


[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/minimum-wage-workers-cannot-afford-rent-in-any-us-state.html

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Minimum wage workers cannot afford rent in any U.S. state
Full-time minimum wage workers cannot afford a two-bedroom rental anywhere in the U.S. and cannot afford a one-bedroom rental in 95% of U.S. counties, according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition's annual "Out of Reach" report.
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[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Credit was kind of easy to get. Applied for a Mastecard when I turned 18. Bought small stuff that I could easily pay off. Little by little it built my credit up to the 850 I have now


[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] wren#0114
It sucks that the system is built on debt. You have to start using debt so young to get a good rate on mortgage and cars later on, but for what purpose


[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne it might still be stripped from me because i can;t afford to pay housing taxes and bills


[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] wren#0114
it's training you to need debt, and makes you not question taking on debt


[30-Aug-20 05:32 PM] Crow#5457
> In fact, the average minimum wage worker in the U.S. would need to work almost 97 hours per week to afford a fair market rate two-bedroom and 79 hours per week to afford a one-bedroom, NLIHC calculates. That’s well over two full-time jobs just to be able to afford a two-bedroom rental.


[30-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Crow#5457
> The report, released Tuesday, defines “affordable” as spending no more than 30% of monthly income on rent, in line with what most budgeting experts recommend. Nationally, NLIHC puts the “housing wage” for 2020 — or what a full-time worker must make in order to afford a fair market rental without spending more than 30% of his or her income — at $23.96 per hour for a two-bedroom rental and $19.56 per hour for a one-bedroom.


[30-Aug-20 05:33 PM] wren#0114
yeah, I have to have roomates to afford rent


[30-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Rent are way too high, there should be ceilings or standard prices.


[30-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Working with a private owner instead of agencies helps out as well


[30-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Opponent#3498
true. Rent does seem to be out of control.


[30-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Crow#5457
credit score is such a shitty part of the american economy it's not even funny

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[30-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Audrey#7852
I feel like a cow being milked. After ten years on a house or apartment you should become the owner. This is just exploitation. "Here I built a house for almost nothing, now going to make sure it pays itself" Repeat, buy another house. Landlords don't even need to work, they're just managers.


[30-Aug-20 05:34 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I mean, if I trust you to pay off a car in 3 years, I’m gonna need some kind of proof you can reliably make payments


[30-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Opponent#3498
@Audrey that would simply incentivise people to give you the 👢 after 9 year mark :D


[30-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
other countries have credit score systems that don't give any specific number, just tracks your ability to repay debts


[30-Aug-20 05:35 PM] Crow#5457
and you only have problems if you miss multiple payments within a certain time period


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
That sounds too good to be true


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] wren#0114
building houses is not cheap tho

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[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
US houses are made of cardboard, it better be pretty cheap :wheeze:


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
Materials, labor, permits, taxes


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Audrey#7852
It pays itself.


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah yeah. I jest, this time.


[30-Aug-20 05:36 PM] wren#0114
in fact, I was looking into building one with a construction loan instead of buying an existing home on mortgage. It would have costed more and could be later sold for thousands less


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Opponent#3498
I know there's a lot to it.


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Labor, permits, you don’t need real workers and you don’t need  to let the government know.


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Rich people can do it because they have money from there parents. 'I should buy this and rent it!'


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] wren#0114
if you have access to better deals on materials then it might be different


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Basically how Trump became a billionaire from a small loan of one million dollar


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] wren#0114
but I was factoring me doing all the labor, so labor cost would be even more


[30-Aug-20 05:37 PM] wren#0114
building things is good


[30-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Audrey#7852
You can be dumb as hell but malicious enough to play this and set the price how you want because people need housing


[30-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
The shitty City council of San Francisco that confiscated small homes built for the homeless just because they didn’t have land permits

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[30-Aug-20 05:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
3d printed houses may make housing more affordable later down the road, however banks and realtors may fight that tooth and nail to keep profits up


[30-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Audrey#7852
It's capitalism.


[30-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Crow#5457
holding onto empty apartments and houses is actually more profitable than renting them out because the value of the property rises, you can buy some empty apartment complexes for cheap, wait a few years, then sell them for way more than you originally bought them for


[30-Aug-20 05:39 PM] Audrey#7852
This should be illegal.


[30-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
I should be lucky my landlord is an old lady who has owned the property for like 30 years

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[30-Aug-20 05:40 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
It’s like the landlord guy from Spider-Man


[30-Aug-20 05:42 PM] Audrey#7852
Several questions comes in my mind right now trying to process your logic


[30-Aug-20 05:43 PM] Opponent#3498
she's not being an asshole about it is the point, I imagine.


[30-Aug-20 05:43 PM] Audrey#7852
I never yet encountered anyone who enjoy their landlord, that's a first. 'She's an old lady she's fine and all'


[30-Aug-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
my parents are landlords for 2 elderly women in other houses, they bought the houses to keep the women from being evicted and to help them

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[30-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Audrey#7852
Koblold, that's a good story, that's being humane. If they are not overcharging them and being comprehensive


[30-Aug-20 05:44 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
That’s why it’s better to deal with a private owner than a complex or a company/Agency.


[30-Aug-20 05:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is the company/agency/absentee landowners outweigh private owners


[30-Aug-20 05:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
especially in cities


[30-Aug-20 05:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
out in the rurals you might find more private owners, however people can;t really afford to move out to the rurals when they don't own a car and have no one to transport them


[30-Aug-20 05:48 PM] wren#0114
I'm trying to escape to rural


[30-Aug-20 05:49 PM] wren#0114
it's hard


[30-Aug-20 05:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then you get to huge companies/corporations installing their businesses in these towns to kill off small businesses and killing the job market to drive down wages


[30-Aug-20 05:51 PM] wren#0114
I wish I could live off the land, but farming is a money sink


[30-Aug-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so are msot other trades these days


[30-Aug-20 05:52 PM] wren#0114
need a normal job and then a tiny bit of homesteading unfortunately


[30-Aug-20 05:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
in order to start an hvac trade you need to be able toa fford several thousand dollars worth of equipment to begin with


[30-Aug-20 05:52 PM] Pizzamovies#6050
To be fair Local businesses in some areas don’t make enough to pay a large wage or hire a lot of workers, I’d rather have a Lowes replace the local hardware stores and hire a 100 workers than the 20 of the previous stores


[30-Aug-20 05:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with this is that it kills resource and tax developments for small towns


[30-Aug-20 05:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
walmart for example builds a smaller store int he town to kill off competition, and then shuts that down and builds a larger store outside the tax line


[30-Aug-20 05:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
This leaves the town with less funding to keep shit up, and you get shit falling appart all over the place because of it


[30-Aug-20 06:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it also leads to a major upheaval of labor regulations as suddenly the only voice for them is walmart


[30-Aug-20 06:00 PM] Opponent#3498
the wibe I'm getting off all this btw, is that with money involved, especially in US, you cannot expect people to do anything at all in good faith, _even though_ the majority of the economic systems in play are predicated on that.


[30-Aug-20 06:00 PM] wren#0114
I want to try flipping land


[30-Aug-20 06:01 PM] wren#0114
like, buy small plot, clear some of the trees, install utilities hookup over time, sell it to people to develop on later


[30-Aug-20 06:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that is the correct vibe


[30-Aug-20 06:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
cities meanwhile usually have the resources to take on walmart and keep thme slightly at bay


[30-Aug-20 06:01 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
we didn't correct any of this when the housing market crashed


[30-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, pretty much everything in the US is broken because a lot of the country was built on good faith without actually enforcing it legally


[30-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Crow#5457
we did correct it, but the banks just found a new way to speculate that's technically different but effectively the same


[30-Aug-20 06:02 PM] wren#0114
what does enforcing it legally look like?


[30-Aug-20 06:03 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
having effective punishments for people using the system in bad faith - anti-corruption measures and the like


[30-Aug-20 06:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
major fines that are actuALLY damaging to corporations and billionaires, and possible prison time


[30-Aug-20 06:04 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
treating white collar crime as proportional to the damage it causes

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[30-Aug-20 06:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point our legal fines are pennies in a cup for billionaires and millionaires


[30-Aug-20 06:04 PM] wren#0114
yeah


[30-Aug-20 06:04 PM] wren#0114
and then gov bailouts for them happen when their practices crash everything ree


[30-Aug-20 06:06 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
And tax breaks that inordinately benefit the people who most abuse the system and make their relationship with the government not one where they are beholden, but one where they benefit from being a terrible person. Nothing about the system encourages you to be nice when you're rich


[30-Aug-20 06:09 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
hey, does anyone remember how to link a twitter video without the whole tweet? I've got a clip here with an obnoxious caption I'd like to leave off


[30-Aug-20 06:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
copy video address in the dropdown menu


[30-Aug-20 06:12 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
that just gives me the link to the tweet


[30-Aug-20 06:14 PM] WingbeatPony#6582
I'll try pasting that though just to see if discord treats it differently; apologies if the obnoxious tweet accompanies it


[30-Aug-20 06:14 PM] Crow#5457
I think you have to use an addon of some sort (or inspect element shenanigans)


[30-Aug-20 06:15 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
A while back I learned that in Germany *prison escape* isn't a punishable crime, as the German constitution guarantees the undeniable human dignity


[30-Aug-20 06:15 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the things you do to escape prison, however, *are* punishable


[30-Aug-20 06:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
things like destruction of property or murder/assault


[30-Aug-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/514328-wolf-says-dhs-will-still-brief-congress-on-election-security

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Wolf says DHS will still brief Congress on election security
Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said his department will continue briefing Congress on election security despite the Director of National Intelligence’s announcement it would switch to written briefings on the subject.
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[30-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
I still can't get over how fitting his name is.


[30-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Opponent#3498
it sounds like a furry OC


[30-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/mmitgang/status/1299840787014795264

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Along with the new wall (which is now topped by a fence), SPD has installed a speaker system on the roof of the precinct. Looks like four sets in total.
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[30-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Crow#5457
big brother mode


[30-Aug-20 07:14 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's speakers not cameras. I still don't get why though.


[30-Aug-20 07:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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China's top diplomat dismisses European rights concerns
PARIS (AP) — China’s foreign minister defended detention camps in Xinjiang and Hong Kong’s new security law on Sunday, brushing off human rights concerns by European countries and cautioning...
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[30-Aug-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/28/health/kids-covid-19-nose-throat-wellness/index.html

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Children may carry coronavirus in their noses and throats for weeks without any symptoms, which might explain how the virus spreads silently, researchers reported Friday.
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[30-Aug-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
oh god, so sending kids to school really was the worst possible decision that could've been made

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[30-Aug-20 08:08 PM] Opponent#3498
that sounds fun...


[30-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Nebbie#8545
This is what EVERY expert has been saying for WEEKS about the decision.


[30-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
People who think we should reopen schools are either incredibly stupid or incredibly malicious.


[30-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Nebbie#8545
Most likely both.


[30-Aug-20 09:24 PM] PwnyPony#6185
We knew kids spread all kinds of viruses better than even adults. But who knew it would be the same for ***THIS*** virus.
"No evidence. The science is weak." - 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 :bigbrain:

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[30-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
same in russia and ukraine,they are going to open schools


[30-Aug-20 09:26 PM] Opponent#3498
Reject science. Return to monke.


[30-Aug-20 09:27 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, I don't think it's as bad here as it's in the US though. Perhaps we can get away with it.


[30-Aug-20 09:29 PM] Opponent#3498
and in general, I've heard murmurs of 'the government is trying to destroy our education entirely' already, with them just cancelling stuff in spring


[30-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its already been destroyed


[30-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
all these home works and dumb tests,school education should be like in Scandinavia


[30-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
America should have been conlised by vikings


[30-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That way we would have nordic model amereica


[30-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I wonder how vikings and natives would've interacted


[30-Aug-20 09:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i guess same way as vikings and europeans


[30-Aug-20 09:38 PM] Crow#5457
not really, vikings didn't live in filthy conditions like western europeans did


[30-Aug-20 09:39 PM] Crow#5457
also vikings didn't have firearms


[30-Aug-20 09:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the reasons the english hated vikings was because vikings took baths


[30-Aug-20 09:40 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They'd've yelled at and killed eachother

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[30-Aug-20 09:41 PM] Crow#5457
not sure how much of a difference it would've made in combat when they had steel weapons and armor, but the natives wouldn't have been quite as outmatched as they were against the colonizers they got


[30-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
tbh they might've even been friendly with each other, the reason why the vikings on newfoundland fought the natives was because a bull escaped the settlement and freaked the natives out


[30-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
so the natives attacked the settlement


[30-Aug-20 09:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/02/20/old-world-vs-new-the-first-battles-between-native-north-americans-and-europeans/

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[30-Aug-20 09:51 PM] PwnyPony#6185
Pretty much what happened but without the Vikings.


[30-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
first contact between native americans and european colonists were peaceful


[30-Aug-20 09:51 PM] Crow#5457
it's only later that it started getting violent when the europeans overstayed their welcome


[30-Aug-20 09:53 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Let's not pretend native americans were all peaceful kumbaya folks


[30-Aug-20 09:55 PM] Crow#5457
the natives on the east coast were because they had a ridiculous surplus of resources


[30-Aug-20 09:56 PM] Crow#5457
it's only in the less plentiful areas of north america that there was any sort of widespread conflict


[30-Aug-20 10:04 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1300075359929544705
Republicans have already begun to use deepfake for propaganda, it seems

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There's a clip here of @AdyBarkan, who has ALS and speaks via voice assistance, asking Biden about "re-directing" public safety funding. The clip alters the quote. It splices "for police" into it, using Barkan's artificial voice. https://t.co/WKkbRzlrXF https://t.co/mUysm9YDe...
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[30-Aug-20 10:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
*There are six things the Lord hates—no, seven: haughtiness, lying, murdering, plotting evil, eagerness to do wrong, a false witness, sowing discord among brothers.*
-Proverbs 6:19


[30-Aug-20 10:16 PM] Crow#5457
the part that has the edited video line is at 1:00 on the linked tweet, what he actually said is at this timestamp on the youtube video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIPXpdeia8&t=176>


[30-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Serval#4825
Proverbs 6:19 section 9A:


[30-Aug-20 10:17 PM] Serval#4825
"Do not read into my book a meaningless temporal political worldview"


[30-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Crow#5457
if you don't think the bible is political, I have centuries of history I need to show you


[30-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Serval#4825
The Bible is a means of salvation


[30-Aug-20 10:29 PM] Serval#4825
Not who to vote for


[30-Aug-20 10:30 PM] MLPMVGuy#9273
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America Has To Do Better
Stop hating one another.

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[30-Aug-20 10:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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The more I write about this, the more it becomes plain: if Biden loses, 2020 will be the last remotely free and fair election we have for decades, and certainly my lifetime. We are in the middle of an autocratic attempt, and it looks so much like Hungary's... 1/n
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[30-Aug-20 10:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
It's hard to keep the bible out of politics when there's entire legislative offices using it to create laws...


[30-Aug-20 10:40 PM] Opponent#3498
unfortunately.


[30-Aug-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention it has passages directly related to politics. It's not telling you who to vote for.


[30-Aug-20 10:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[30-Aug-20 10:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/portland-killing-trump-caravan-civil-war-20200830.html

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A killing, chaos in Portland as Trump’s reelection scheme of a civi...
On the morning after deadly violence in Portland, Trump's plan to foment civil war to save his presidency has escalated to a dangerous new place.
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[30-Aug-20 10:49 PM] wren#0114
paywall


[30-Aug-20 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
In the link i posted?


[30-Aug-20 10:50 PM] wren#0114
it wants me to disable adblock


[30-Aug-20 10:50 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Weird, i'm using incognito and it works fine


[30-Aug-20 10:50 PM] wren#0114
not worth it for inquirer opinion


[30-Aug-20 10:51 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Eh


[30-Aug-20 10:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Look up "_Roe_ effect."


[30-Aug-20 10:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
I had assumed that was the common belief, not whatever the Heritage Foundation person is talking about.


[30-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The idea is that people who support legalized abortion will abort the kids that would grow up to continue to support legalized abortion

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[30-Aug-20 10:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Thus "inevitably", anti-abortion will be the dominant belief


[30-Aug-20 11:00 PM] Opponent#3498
that's a... different way of thinking about it.


[30-Aug-20 11:01 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Did they forget to factor in that you can support abortion rights and still have children?


[30-Aug-20 11:07 PM] Treascair#7785
yes, you rang? I have a little sister, so... kind of a personal stake here.  If she wanted to get one, that's *her* choice. And I'd go to war to protect her right to choose.

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[30-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
imagine believing anything the Heritage Foundation says.

This post made by echo chambers and think tanks can go die gang.


[30-Aug-20 11:09 PM] wren#0114
you say you're against echo chambers, yet you post in them,


[30-Aug-20 11:10 PM] wren#0114
curious

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[30-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Opponent#3498
eeeh, the subtle criticism _is_ a bit misplaced here :P


[30-Aug-20 11:12 PM] wren#0114
criticism?


[30-Aug-20 11:13 PM] wren#0114
I was making a joke. Though if you think about it, most places in life are echo chambers of some form or another


[30-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Itsthinking#8251
The ugly truth is that most people don't want debates, they want echo chambers.


[30-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Kojima warned us the mgs2 ai was right all a long


[30-Aug-20 11:15 PM] Opponent#3498
well, it's just me then. I've heard this channel being referred to as an echo chamber, and its not quite that far gone. That's why it gets hot here sometimes.


[30-Aug-20 11:17 PM] wren#0114
I think social media should be built up as modeled after regional communities, where it's easy interaction between those in your "community" or whatever it's defined as, and where it's not dopamine-driving you to click on as many agreeing accounts as possible


[30-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Opponent#3498
it's impossible.


[30-Aug-20 11:26 PM] Opponent#3498
I think humanity as a whole should just power through current social media rush. It's not something that can be fought, the current design (disregarding 'suggested', those are cancer) is the only one that makes sense.


[30-Aug-20 11:26 PM] wren#0114
is there a solution to social media


[30-Aug-20 11:27 PM] wren#0114
perhaps with time people will notice the destructive influence, and learn how to recognize the dopamine addiction


[30-Aug-20 11:27 PM] wren#0114
to where it's taught


[30-Aug-20 11:30 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
You can't combat the dopamine addiction when its basically handed to you at early ages

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[30-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
but for realsies though. Social media is one of the high level, 'civilisation development' tier things


[30-Aug-20 11:37 PM] Opponent#3498
and we're really fucking new to it. No wonder it goes poorly.


[30-Aug-20 11:57 PM] Itsthinking#8251
It's just what people have always thought, but on a larger scale


[30-Aug-20 11:58 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Similar things preceded even GIFT. The first real experience people had with something like it was CB radio


[30-Aug-20 11:58 PM] wren#0114
we are currently being selectively bred to adapt our brains into social media

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[30-Aug-20 11:59 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Still waiting for the Wojak JRPG


[31-Aug-20 12:01 AM] Opponent#3498
the point of social media is being global, easy to use and accessible.


[31-Aug-20 12:02 AM] Opponent#3498
it's a pretty new combination. The scale does indeed matter here.


[31-Aug-20 12:07 AM] jlun2#8758
> we are currently being selectively bred to adapt our brains into social media
im pretty sure being twitter jailed for a decade old post doesnt natural select you away


[31-Aug-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Guided missiles, misguided men


[31-Aug-20 12:12 AM] Serval#4825
@wren does that include Discord


[31-Aug-20 12:13 AM] Serval#4825
Never 5get

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[31-Aug-20 12:21 AM] jlun2#8758
every single alien civilization prob has to go through their own "social media phase"


[31-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Reminder that this happened


[31-Aug-20 12:31 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esyMFOu8ZFE

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Police shoot paint canisters at people on porch in Minneapolis
Law enforcement officers shot paint canisters on May 30, 2020, along a Minneapolis street in the Whittier neighborhood during protests over the death of George Floyd. This video was provided to our sister-station KARE11 by Tanya Kerssen, on Twitter: @tkerssen.

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[31-Aug-20 12:36 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/514184-shutdown-politics-set-to-collide-with-coronavirus-aid

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Shutdown politics set to collide with coronavirus aid
The odds are rising that any deal on a fifth coronavirus relief package will be tied to legislation to prevent a government shutdown.
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[31-Aug-20 12:57 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
June 2nd 2020 at Lafayette square


[31-Aug-20 01:03 AM] Opponent#3498
oh yeah, there's also traditional trumpy government shutdown


[31-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657

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[31-Aug-20 01:18 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
光復香港，時代革命 五月三十五
June 2nd 2020 at Lafayette square


[31-Aug-20 01:19 AM] jlun2#8758
:roseconfused:


[31-Aug-20 01:20 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna go ahead and say that I don't get it, but you need to calm down, son.


[31-Aug-20 01:21 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like...why are you posting this? What is the purpose?


[31-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
He thinks not being allowed to shit up the featured image comment section with politics means he's being censored


[31-Aug-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We're literally Trump _and_ communist China right now


[31-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657

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[31-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
I'm gonna be blunt and say stop spewing shit.


[31-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
We hav containment areas for politics for a reason.


[31-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
That time i got baned for saying free hong kong and june 4th 1989


[31-Aug-20 01:23 AM] Nebbie#8545
You may want to consider this when/if you appeal the ban.


[31-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
Like, if you want to talk about Hong Kong and all the shit China is pulling, sure, we can talk about that here.


[31-Aug-20 01:25 AM] Nebbie#8545
It has no place going all over image comment sections.


[31-Aug-20 01:26 AM] dissociativity#8391
there's a time and place for everything.


[31-Aug-20 01:27 AM] dissociativity#8391
listen to professor oak, there's a reason we don't ride bikes indoors generally


[31-Aug-20 01:28 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
When an image brings up cops then talking about what stuff cops do is relevant.


[31-Aug-20 01:29 AM] Nebbie#8545
That's like saying when an image shows a guy, you can talk about Hong Kong because men enforced stuff.


[31-Aug-20 01:29 AM] dissociativity#8391
I hate cops as much as the next person, but I also don't want to make life a nightmare for the mods


[31-Aug-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
Just because there's a cop in an image doesn't mean you can talk about everything cops hav ever done anywhere.


[31-Aug-20 01:32 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
too many people are radicalized

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[31-Aug-20 01:34 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Me either. So thats why when talking about the things cops do and other events like it, talk about it should not be censored.


[31-Aug-20 01:36 AM] dissociativity#8391
radicalization isn't a bad thing necessarily, however many who are, have a very flimsy backing for why they believe what they do.
They refuse to educate themselves on systemic issues and WHY and HOW their ideology has the solutions that they think it does.
What implementation looks like, ect.

Some people are simply reactionaries, that's all their ideology is, it's inconsistent, flip flops depending on the context, they don't really believe in anything but paranoia and an eternal victim complex.


[31-Aug-20 01:37 AM] dissociativity#8391
this includes many centrists too, who 'just wanna grill' and see everything preventing said 'grilling' as 'bad and must be stopped', hence horseshoe theory existing.


[31-Aug-20 01:37 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Cops and goverment workers should not supress free peaceful protests. If this is a radical idea then....


[31-Aug-20 01:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
you're right, cops shouldn't be attacking BLM and inciting riots.


[31-Aug-20 01:38 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Hell no they shouldn't


[31-Aug-20 01:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
but once more, there's a time and place for that discourse unfortunately.


[31-Aug-20 01:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
Otherwise websites go to shit, the rules for me also apply to thee, if neo-nazis could make political comments everywhere (like they used to be able to), the site would be terrible again.


[31-Aug-20 01:39 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Every comment like dislike tweet or retweet shapes our cultures context.


[31-Aug-20 01:39 AM] dissociativity#8391
/pol/ people were infiltrating shit actively before any rule reform, slowly increasing their reach and radicalizing otherwise moderate reactionaries.


[31-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
If I am going to do so i will make shure this cultures context will be a free and democratic one.


[31-Aug-20 01:40 AM] jlun2#8758
@Gordon Freeman remember to vote irl


[31-Aug-20 01:40 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
!appeal


[31-Aug-20 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
you can see it in the culture of /mlp/ for example.

Every single other board pretty much on 4chan tells overly bigotted people to 'go back to /pol/', to fuck off, not /mlp/
One can still be edgy on any board, but the moment you start spamming the N word and talking about politics from a very much neo nazi perspective, you're told to fuck off back to /pol/.


[31-Aug-20 01:41 AM] jlun2#8758
i know for certain most young radicals wont vote
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/powerup/2020/03/05/powerup-young-voters-are-turning-out-in-lower-numbers-than-bernie-sanders-expected/5e6018d6602ff10d49ac2c83/>
still annoyed as hell for them


[31-Aug-20 01:41 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@jlun2 i allways do.


[31-Aug-20 01:41 AM] dissociativity#8391
/mlp/ has been infiltrated by /pol/.
through this so had derpibooru.


[31-Aug-20 01:42 AM] dissociativity#8391
so have many pony discords, and ones that aren't yet taken over, they're trying by being crypto 'haha I was just joking' whenever people are like 'wtf why the fuck would you say that?'


[31-Aug-20 01:43 AM] dissociativity#8391
if you go to /g/ to talk about technology and you bring up those damn n* , you'll pretty much always be told to fuck off to /pol/.

I need to re-iterate, /mlp/'s community allows neo nazi discussion that every other board tells to fuck off back to /pol/


[31-Aug-20 01:44 AM] dissociativity#8391
people are really oblivious to years of astroturfing to the point it's been normalized.


[31-Aug-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514357-wisconsin-governor-urges-trump-to-reconsider-visit-to-kenosha

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Wisconsin governor urges Trump not to visit Kenosha: 'I am concerne...
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) urged President Trump on Sunday to "reconsider" his plans to visit Kenosha, Wis., which has been rocked by unrest for the past several nights following the shooting of Jacob Blake by police.
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[31-Aug-20 01:44 AM] Serval#4825
Sip


[31-Aug-20 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
and it's in everyone who has been radicalized by /pol/'s best interests to deny it and try to gaslight those that point this out.


[31-Aug-20 01:45 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's simply rational, plausible deniability and gaslighting is how it best spreads.


[31-Aug-20 01:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nba-players-boycotting-playoffs-2020-8

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Trump dismissed mixing sports with politics, saying protests in the...
After the NBA delayed playoffs following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, Trump warned similar statements by the MLB and NFL could be "very bad."
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[31-Aug-20 02:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1299891820898537473

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National Poll Among Independents:

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[31-Aug-20 02:02 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "It's terrible," Trump said, according to a White House press pool report. "I think what they're doing to the NBA in particular is going to destroy basketball. I can't - I don't even watch it. ... You know when you watch sports, you want to sort of relax, but this is a whole different world. ... You don't want to stay in politics. You want to relax."
> "It's very bad for the NBA and it's going to prove to be very bad for football," Trump continued. "It's going to be very bad for football and I think it's very bad for the NBA. Maybe even NBA threatening. And it's going to be very bad for baseball if they don't get smarter."


[31-Aug-20 02:04 AM] Kiryu-Chan#8053
>as if NFL will do anything


[31-Aug-20 02:07 AM] jlun2#8758
@Itsthinking have fun w/ 4 more years of orange man


[31-Aug-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Polling ahead of Clinton generally


[31-Aug-20 02:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/514359-thousands-sign-on-to-petition-to-replace-confederate-statue

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Thousands sign on to petition to replace Confederate statue with Ch...
Thousands are signing onto a petition pushing for a Confederate statue in Anderson, South Carolina, to be replaced by a memorial for actor Chadwick Boseman, who was born there.
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[31-Aug-20 02:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
man I hope it's exactly how he looks here, in character as t'challa


[31-Aug-20 02:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Why the fuck are there so many confederate monuments in the US? Wouldn’t just a few be enough to “remind people of history” or whatever if that’s the intent?


[31-Aug-20 02:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Because in the 60s there was a racist group who commissioned a whole bunch of 'em


[31-Aug-20 02:11 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, i know it’s all just for intimidating minorities, but well


[31-Aug-20 02:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
numbers big, minorities small


[31-Aug-20 02:12 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
it's not a coincidence that all these "confederate monuments" are located in areas with racial tensions, not necessarily around the spot where any of the men honored by the statues did anything noteworthy


[31-Aug-20 02:12 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
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[31-Aug-20 02:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a lot of the schools and buildings named after confederate generals and soldiers also only got named that around the civil rights movement to show how much the people runnign the school did not approve desegregation


[31-Aug-20 02:13 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

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Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president?
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[31-Aug-20 02:13 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you already linked the 538


[31-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Itsthinking still only 38 last gallup checked


[31-Aug-20 02:14 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you really don't need to post more polls


[31-Aug-20 02:14 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok


[31-Aug-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/514221-proposed-rules-to-protect-bulk-power-grid-from-foreign-targeting

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Proposed rules to protect bulk power grid from foreign targeting ra...
Energy industry owners and operators are growing increasingly nervous about new rules proposed by the Trump administration in an
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[31-Aug-20 02:18 AM] Serval#4825
Polls succ, the economy is a way better predictor


[31-Aug-20 02:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s also way too soon to tell a clear winner yet


[31-Aug-20 02:19 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
several economists who usually predict elections right, have predicted biden based on economic numbers, though it;s such a dumpster fire of a year, it could be the first time thye get it wrong


[31-Aug-20 02:22 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention the sheer amount of electoral sabotage going on right now by the trump administration/campaign


[31-Aug-20 02:23 AM] Serval#4825
People have forgotten for a long time that people don’t vote with their heart or mind


[31-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
the economy's been in a recession since february 2020


[31-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
so by that metric, trump should lose


[31-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
but I somehow doubt it's going to be that easy, given how he's basically admitted up front he's trying to interfere in the election by scaling back the USPS's ability to handle mail-in voting


[31-Aug-20 02:25 AM] Crow#5457
https://apnews.com/14a2ceda724623604cc8d8e5ab9890ed

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Trump admits he's blocking postal cash to stop mail-in votes
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump frankly acknowledged Thursday that he's starving the U.S. Postal Service of money in order to make it harder to process an expected surge of mail-in...
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[31-Aug-20 02:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
he also started targeting ballot drop off zones after realizing the usps doesnt control those


[31-Aug-20 02:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whether or not it will go past verbal slandering is yet to be seen


[31-Aug-20 02:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/trump-tweet-hidden-twitter-warning-label-1234745841/

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Twitter Hides ‘Misleading’ Trump Tweet About Mail Drop Boxes Not Be...
Twitter has hidden a tweet by President Trump and labeled it “misleading” after he said certain election ballot drop boxes are not “Covid sanitized” and threaten voter secur…
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[31-Aug-20 02:30 AM] Serval#4825
Trump losing would be an unsalvageable blow to the Q cult


[31-Aug-20 02:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well that or a call to arms


[31-Aug-20 02:31 AM] Serval#4825
Which is an unacceptable affront to everything that is good


[31-Aug-20 02:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/514271-judge-grants-trump-campaigns-request-to-block-thousands-of-iowa-absentee this also happened

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Judge grants Trump campaign's request to block thousands of Iowa ab...
A judge on Thursday granted President Trump's campaign's appeal to block 50,000 absentee ballot requests in an Iowa county.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/mail-in-ballots_wa_031020getty.jpg


[31-Aug-20 02:38 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgrKSGWU8AIye9F.jpg:orig

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[31-Aug-20 02:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Aug-20 03:00 AM] Itsthinking#8251
RCP is saying the election is a toss-up now.


[31-Aug-20 03:01 AM] Itsthinking#8251
538 says 69% chance Biden (nice) and 31% Trump


[31-Aug-20 03:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we still have 2 months and with 2020 being as volitile as it is, it;s anyone;s game


[31-Aug-20 03:02 AM] jlun2#8758
which for all i know means 100% trump win


[31-Aug-20 03:03 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;m mroe worried about the democrats throwing an early victory lap half way through september like they did in 2016

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[31-Aug-20 03:03 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Biden is already going back on the trail earlier than he said he would


[31-Aug-20 03:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they cannot afford to be cocky like they were in 2016


[31-Aug-20 03:05 AM] Itsthinking#8251
More people are both Biden or Trump voters than they will admit


[31-Aug-20 03:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"Undecided" probably is "too afraid to say"


[31-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Serval#4825
I think the chances are closer to 60-40


[31-Aug-20 03:07 AM] Serval#4825
The defining moment hasn’t occurred yet


[31-Aug-20 03:12 AM] Itsthinking#8251
I believe in the tossup.


[31-Aug-20 03:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fun fact: both w bush and obama had 48% pop today in there first term


[31-Aug-20 03:19 AM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Trump has 42%. Kinda a big drop


[31-Aug-20 03:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
trump just has to stan the wrong mass shooter


[31-Aug-20 03:49 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or fall down the wrong flight of stairs


[31-Aug-20 03:50 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
whichever comes first :rarityhmm:


[31-Aug-20 04:02 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Fall on a wet floor in McDonald’s while getting a Big Mac


[31-Aug-20 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
to be fair to that article about the absentee ballots in iowa: Yeah, Miller probably shouldn't have done that


[31-Aug-20 04:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
that seems like the kind of thing you get permission to do because it'd mean getting the state congress to vote on making an exception or changing the provision


[31-Aug-20 05:09 AM] dissociativity#8391
https://twitter.com/anoncatanoncat/status/1300266444354064384
surely the right won't bootlick for cops after one on their side dies because of them brutalizing medics trying to keep him alive?

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[31-Aug-20 05:10 AM] Serenity#9645
https://news.yahoo.com/armed-standoff-woodland-hills-shots-222413901.html

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Confusion after LAPD response to reports of gunfire at Trump car ca...
Reports of gunfire at a pro-Trump caravan led to a police standoff at an apartment building in Woodland Hills, but SWAT officers found no one in the apartment.
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[31-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Opponent#3498
mass confusion is the name of the game now. It'll gonna get worse.


[31-Aug-20 05:30 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Irrelevant quote but.

“Every age, it seems, is tainted by the greed of men.”


[31-Aug-20 07:50 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/d1QbJOKhjWU

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POTUS Jumps to Lead in National Poll
The Democracy  Institute/Sunday Express Poll shows that President Trump leads Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden 48 percent to 45 percent in the national popular vote, a one point bump from the two point lead the same poll found the president had in its survey released ...
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[31-Aug-20 07:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
make israel great again with that military budget right bros?

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[31-Aug-20 08:21 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Riots in Norway and Sweden ongoing it seems


[31-Aug-20 10:33 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
||https://youtu.be/nXqX4vi2lf4?t=130|| cop didnt shoot first and got shot :sadface:

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BODY CAM: Daytona Beach officer-involved shooting
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[31-Aug-20 10:41 AM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@PzZ1-TD1 for what?! They are living in the best countries in the world!


[31-Aug-20 10:43 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/08/30/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-trump-nr-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/

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Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler blasts Donald Trump: It's you who have c...
Mayor Ted Wheeler of Portland, Oregon, excoriates President Donald Trump during a press conference addressing a shooting at a protest that left one person dead.
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[31-Aug-20 10:45 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aVkdi_1598819078 antifa dude killed someone yesterday

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Liveleak.com - Portland Shooter: Up Close Enhanced View
An isolation on the shooting in Portland. Photo is police arresting Mi..
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[31-Aug-20 10:47 AM] wren#0114
yeah I've been waiting to see the results of investigation on that one


[31-Aug-20 10:49 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/aug/31/tiktok-us-sale-faces-fresh-hurdle-after-china-tightens-tech-export-rules

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TikTok US sale faces fresh hurdle after China tightens tech export ...
Beijing says some exports will now need government approval in move believed to be linked to Trump sale order
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[31-Aug-20 10:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985

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[31-Aug-20 10:59 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CHVZI_1598786254 does this count as hatespeech?

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Liveleak.com - IS THAT LEGAL , BLM leader encouraging speach !!!
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[31-Aug-20 11:13 AM] dissociativity#8391
>some kid is bullying me nooo this kid is the real nazi


[31-Aug-20 11:14 AM] dissociativity#8391
that guy is just expressing frustration


[31-Aug-20 11:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
this is literally normal tactics, you go on the front line and you push cops back when they push at you as a crowd, because police kettle you.


[31-Aug-20 11:16 AM] dissociativity#8391
have you never been to a political rally that cops are butthurt about?


[31-Aug-20 11:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
'I want xyz' was expressions of frustration, then at the end he's just saying basic black bloc tactics that's normie as shit and absolutely not violent lol


[31-Aug-20 11:17 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn right wingers really are devoid of life experience.

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[31-Aug-20 11:25 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[31-Aug-20 11:40 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=Cxig5_1598783879

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Liveleak.com - DEFINITELY a PEPPER SPRAY, don't block traffic !!!
Portland, Oregon 
Even children know enough not to play in the street..
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[31-Aug-20 11:51 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/gops-steve-scalise-may-be-in-ethics-trouble-for-violating-rules-of-not-posting-deep-fake-videos/

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GOP’s Steve Scalise may be in ethics trouble for violating rules of...
A January 2020 memo to all House members from the Ethics Committee may mean that Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA) is in trouble for the deep-fake video that he posted online this weekend. Scalise was outed for doctoring a video of ALS healthcare activist Ady Barkan and using computer...
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[31-Aug-20 11:56 AM] Audrey#7852
"Man got murdered but it's OK because that guy was bad anyway"

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[31-Aug-20 12:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah well it;s nice to know kyle rittenhaus prematurely looked up the rap sheet of his victims, yep totally chose them based on their crimes

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[31-Aug-20 12:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pointing out the victims supposed crimes kills your self defense argument. It makes it sound like he;s a street justice death vigilante who specifically went to shoot a "pedophile"


[31-Aug-20 12:09 PM] Audrey#7852
That's exactly the bias of the right. He's not giving service for the community but breaking any chances for an ex felon, liberated to reintegrate. That's worse.


[31-Aug-20 12:11 PM] Audrey#7852
Also I'm done watching Stonetoss Trixie's video about cops with military rifles versus one man, if you have a gun and see cops armed like that how are you not scared?


[31-Aug-20 12:12 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes he's got shot but it's the police who is not giving one chance of surrender and starts shooting, he even later asks 'show me your hands' while shooting.


[31-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Audrey#7852
And the insults, and all makes him biased, even if the supposed criminal is DEAD with 20 bullets in his body, thank fully censored he's insulting that person, that's insane!


[31-Aug-20 12:14 PM] Audrey#7852
That was painfum to watch


[31-Aug-20 12:17 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5IT-27bscU Warning: Graphic. Translation is available. French cops attempted to cause an accident with a biker.

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[31-Aug-20 12:18 PM] Audrey#7852
One of them cops was drunk, others were laughing.


[31-Aug-20 12:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Teen lost his leg, and got even arrested because it was a curfew during COVID and that's why the COPS are going away with it claiming he had nothing to do outside at this time.


[31-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if you scared of someone just fuckin surrender


[31-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
An this kids is why you pack heat, you could have given those cops a drive-by and saved yourself.


[31-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its not like cops dream about killing you


[31-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and that cop did not shoot first,he said hands and then he get shot


[31-Aug-20 12:20 PM] Audrey#7852
It's clear that after being shot, with a superficial wound, the cop is shooting to kill.


[31-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cause he's fighting for his life


[31-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Audrey#7852
You have one man with a revolver, on the other side you have guys with kevlars, optics, assault rifles in military gear


[31-Aug-20 12:21 PM] Audrey#7852
Theres just no comparison


[31-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
some revolvers can penetrate kevlar


[31-Aug-20 12:22 PM] Audrey#7852
What's the sentence for speeding? A few points on your permit or getting chased by an helicopter with a machine gun?


[31-Aug-20 12:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes maybe some revolvers can cause damage, but look at the weapons of the police going with M16s and machine guns like they're at war! That's a situation of war to me.


[31-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Audrey#7852
Then also when Americans can have weapons like this at home, and even some more and more french since some manage to buy these, in armory, please understand that the proliferation of more and more powerful weapons that can shoot 5000 bullets per minute is escalation


[31-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
this is war


[31-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Audrey#7852
America is at war? Who's the enemy? BLM? Who's fighting who?


[31-Aug-20 12:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
noone wants to die so cops got better equipment for themself


[31-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
anyone who do crimes


[31-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The Kenosha shooter killed two people while he was underage with a firearm he did not own a license to carry protecting a car lot he did not own. Sorry self defense does not apply here.

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[31-Aug-20 12:26 PM] Audrey#7852
Even a guy who is getting arrested for dealing weed or stolen an iphone or a car don't want to die either.


[31-Aug-20 12:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Americans have a firearm problem.


[31-Aug-20 12:28 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Weed should be decriminalized and stealing iphones is illegal but it does not mean cops should kill someone for that,as long as iphone thief comply he's gonna be fine


[31-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Audrey#7852
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[31-Aug-20 12:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with your surrendering argument, is that plenty of people have surrendered to police and got tazed, beaten, or shot anyway


[31-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
in 1 out of 100 cases


[31-Aug-20 12:29 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, in fact people are afraid and scared to surrender, so they are running away


[31-Aug-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it still happened


[31-Aug-20 12:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
it does cant deny that


[31-Aug-20 12:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fact that it happened is a problem in and of itself


[31-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Audrey#7852
What are bronies thinking of these.

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[31-Aug-20 12:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
every brony should own one


[31-Aug-20 12:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Not much of a gun person, more a fan of military history. It does look cool though


[31-Aug-20 12:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
more guns law obedient citizens have less chances criminals would try to attack em


[31-Aug-20 12:33 PM] Audrey#7852
Forget the laws, forget the fact you have the right to be armed, show an assault rifle painted in the colors of a show about love, friendship. understanding and cuteness to anyone, what's the message? Why are they doing this?


[31-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Audrey#7852
You can paint anything how you want but painting a weapon to make it cute?


[31-Aug-20 12:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I think background checks are mandatory if you are against them then chances are you shouldn't own a firearm


[31-Aug-20 12:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Background check, controls, psychological testings, training, safety, all needs higher control to be in capacity of even ownling a firearm.


[31-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Audrey#7852
Even France is far from being perfect, teenagers from 15 or 16 can own a rifle for hunting or sports.


[31-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Audrey#7852
( SPORTS. Not badminton, there's people who shoot rifles and it's considered sport.)


[31-Aug-20 12:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
it is sport


[31-Aug-20 12:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i agree more people in america should carry guns. Though it would also probably increase the number of police assaults given they coudl now jsut scream about "HE HAS A GUN!"


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
hunting is also a sport nowadays


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Police will patrol in tanks


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The most common thing I hear against Background checks is that it violates your first amendment rights because you are put on a registry.


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i've got better idea-replace police with military


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"HE HAS A GUN!" *aims tank in defense*


[31-Aug-20 12:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Police's already military.


[31-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just shell those criminals to the ground with artillery :awesome:

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[31-Aug-20 12:38 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
There was a couple cases here that prove that guns add more problems for the obedient citizen.
- one case was where fire exchange took between armed gang and a victim couple, the latter was wounded fatally and the accompanying person wounded.
- applying self defense brings lethal potential, even training says "...no matter where you aim, consider ashot as lethal."
- securing said gun and time to retrieve. The gun should be stored in a safe and if adversary already got access to house, the gun could be stoled and used against the owner.


[31-Aug-20 12:39 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
- even the gun was used in self defense it involves tedious legal process to justify the defense  measure


[31-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah America's gun laws are complicated and the reason reforms are put in place is because of the NRA's lobbying power


[31-Aug-20 12:41 PM] Phelan#7647
The NRA are weak on guns.


[31-Aug-20 12:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
They are powerful because they have an active voting base


[31-Aug-20 12:44 PM] Phelan#7647
They don't actually spend all that much money, just have a lot of members. Still, think it'd be better to have an actually pro-2nd amendment organization to take those reigns, like the 2nd Amendment Foundation


[31-Aug-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thew problem with the NRA is less their amount of money and mroe the sheer amount of politicians they have in their pockets


[31-Aug-20 12:45 PM] Phelan#7647
Like I said, they're too weak on the second amendment and don't go far enough.


[31-Aug-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont go far enough on which direction?


[31-Aug-20 12:46 PM] Phelan#7647
Pro-gun


[31-Aug-20 12:46 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The NRA is corrupt their board members only care about stuffing their wallets

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[31-Aug-20 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
pretty much, this has been the case since at least oliver north joined them a few decades ago and changed shit up for the worst


[31-Aug-20 12:47 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the NRA started as a rifle safety organization


[31-Aug-20 12:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, its times like this that the NRA should be disbanded, many of its board members are under investigation.


[31-Aug-20 12:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
speaking of which https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/899712823/new-york-attorney-general-moves-to-dissolve-the-nra-after-fraud-investigation

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New York's attorney general announced civil action to dissolve the National Rifle Association after an investigation found millions of dollars in alleged fraud by CEO Wayne LaPierre and others.
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[31-Aug-20 12:51 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Hopefully a better pro gun group takes its place and actually considers gun safety over profit margins by gunsales


[31-Aug-20 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are a lot more and a lot better gun rights advocate groups out there


[31-Aug-20 12:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the NRA is basically jsut the gun manufacturers union trying to make gun sales as easy as possible


[31-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Phelan#7647
Eh, I don't like the NRA but not really.


[31-Aug-20 12:52 PM] Audrey#7852
When I get high I can have very extreme opinions but what to think of people advocating murdering like this


[31-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is difference between murdering and self defense


[31-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Audrey#7852
If the NRA is pro-gun why don't they help everyone having equal access to guns?


[31-Aug-20 12:53 PM] Phelan#7647
Huh?


[31-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Phelan#7647
I don't consider the NRA as it is really all that pro-gun in any case.


[31-Aug-20 12:54 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you think minorities have the right to defend themselves and their community?


[31-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Sally Moon#4922
You can't bring a loaded gun to a fist fight get hit, unload the entire magazine into the person's back then claim self defense, you can only retaliate with a justifiable limit.


[31-Aug-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they;re mroe pro gun sales int he same way cigarette companies were in the 50's


[31-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I'm literally a minority myself.

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[31-Aug-20 12:55 PM] Audrey#7852
If you have the right to defend your community does that includes defending your community against white, armed cops pointing their riifles at your brothers?


[31-Aug-20 12:56 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Smug Trixie then guns dont have place in self defense, because guns are designed to murder, unless we talking about non lethal weaponry.

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[31-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Phelan#7647
I think that anyone (and everyone) should be able to defend themselves, not sure what you're trying to get at with me.

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[31-Aug-20 12:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
net guns might be useful in self defense


[31-Aug-20 12:57 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes or stun guns, teargas or any non-lethal weapon


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Audrey#7852
These are for self defense.


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
stun guns does not always work


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe not tear gas, we already have an issue with that and it lingers int he area meaning it wouldnt just hit your intended target


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is lots of videos where cops using their tasers on suspect and it has zero effect


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] Audrey#7852
Any alternative to firearms or lethal weapons.


[31-Aug-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would hit everyone who is already or will enter the area


[31-Aug-20 12:59 PM] Audrey#7852
Teargas will be ineffective if you're used to cry.

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[31-Aug-20 12:59 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trixie that doesn't happen, its ether the stungun is defective of the suspect is under some kind of drug that gives the appearance that its not working


[31-Aug-20 01:00 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
teargas is effective non lethal weapon if you want to control a crowd


[31-Aug-20 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
adrenaline can also be a factor


[31-Aug-20 01:00 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or whip one into a frenzy


[31-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Audrey#7852
Another perspective, if legitimate defense is A-OK let's move on another country, do you agree that palestinian people have the right to defend themselves from Tsahal's forces (Israeli, equipped by the US's government)


[31-Aug-20 01:01 PM] Phelan#7647
Your asking someone with "Stonetoss" in his name about Israel.


[31-Aug-20 01:02 PM] Audrey#7852
I know. I want to know his opinion, unless this is the 'Real' stonetoss then i wouldn't be surprised


[31-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Israel stole lots of land from Palestina but i dont like their ways of fighting


[31-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Knife attacks is not cool


[31-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Audrey#7852
What's an adequate way of fighting then?


[31-Aug-20 01:03 PM] Phelan#7647
0 state solution


[31-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Audrey this is a different situation, where 2nd amendment applies.


[31-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Audrey#7852
One side you have old rifles, rocks, and knives,; even swords.  Other you have tanks, machine guns, helicopters and a modern army, how is this even comparable.


[31-Aug-20 01:04 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
u know,a standart war with tanks,planes,cars etc


[31-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but Israel is highly supported by US government so its impossible to win Israel


[31-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes this is a completely different place but give up your American-centric view and transpose this to any place with a conflict.


[31-Aug-20 01:05 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Plus Israel has like worlds best tanks and every citizen has been in army so literally everyone got some training


[31-Aug-20 01:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you think it's normal, Stonetoss, that Israel is overpowered versus a people that's almost disarmed?


[31-Aug-20 01:06 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Let's talk about a particular armed groups in Caucasus and in middle east that were able to withstand superpowers weaponry.


[31-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Phelan#7647
Didn't multiple fairly large countries (including one that brought down a superpower) try to fight against Israel and lose


[31-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Poor Kurds Trump stabbed them in the back for a shitty hotel


[31-Aug-20 01:07 PM] Audrey#7852
Just like he backstabbed Ukraine and South Korea and many others.

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[31-Aug-20 01:08 PM] Phelan#7647
Eh, I don't think we should've been in Syria in the first place


[31-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Same,just let them kill eachothers


[31-Aug-20 01:09 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Suffice to say Desert Storm was only a win militarily then


[31-Aug-20 01:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
And people love to brag about how Trump is restoring America's greatness when world leaders are laughing at him behind his back and Putin is laughing at him behind his back too and thinks he is a weak man.


[31-Aug-20 01:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Yeah the amount of Americans in denial (his supporters) is staggering


[31-Aug-20 01:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
And they keep claiming he is preserving their way of life


[31-Aug-20 01:11 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Someone here said it best Trump is the poor man's idea of a rich man, the cowards idea of a strong man and the dumb man's idea of a smart man


[31-Aug-20 01:11 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Mistranslated patriotism I suppose


[31-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Opponent#3498
```for what?! They are living in the best countries in the world!```
@Эᴚ|∫ for the same reason Germany had BLM rallies. People are bored af.


[31-Aug-20 01:12 PM] Phelan#7647
I just think that getting involved militarily in other countries is a bad thing if we don't have pacts with them.


[31-Aug-20 01:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
<https://imgur.com/t/current_events/b25C7dz> some commentary on the riots from an actual portland local


[31-Aug-20 01:13 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Random question


[31-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I guess it turned out many people could not actually cope with isolation for a couple months :twismug:  I can point at them and laugh.


[31-Aug-20 01:13 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Do you guys think expanding the permanent Security Council is a good idea?


[31-Aug-20 01:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i dont know what that is


[31-Aug-20 01:13 PM] Phelan#7647
I think kicking China and maybe Russia out is a good idea.


[31-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Phelan#7647
I could see Japan or Germany joining in their place.


[31-Aug-20 01:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh the un security council


[31-Aug-20 01:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
maybe Russia so you still think Putin isn't a cretin?


[31-Aug-20 01:15 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
> I think kicking China and maybe Russia out is a good idea.
Honestly I think this is a bad idea, because if we kick them out we lose a vital communication link and may be caught unaware when they pull some stunt


[31-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Opponent#3498
I find it really fascinating that americans have a higher opinion of Putin than russians, by and large.

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[31-Aug-20 01:15 PM] Phelan#7647
No, I hate Putin cause I'm Ukrainian lol


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Ah, makes sense


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, you're perhaps an exception.


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Phelan#7647
Ethnically speaking, not by birth or anything.


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Russia is the most pro-Soviet state, obviously


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Opponent blame Fox News for Putin looking so good.


[31-Aug-20 01:16 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
They still hate Gorbachev for apparently ruining their economy for example


[31-Aug-20 01:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The economy was already dead.


[31-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Phelan#7647
Only reason I say that Russia might not be kicked out is because they aren't as bad as China. Basically, if you had me pick between the two, I'd rather throw out China than Russia.


[31-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I hate Putin because he is a poltical vampire ping ponging between President and Prime Minister and then having those stupid Direct Talks. God i hate those Direct Talks


[31-Aug-20 01:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
imagine throwing out #1 superpower out of something :lul:

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[31-Aug-20 01:19 PM] Phelan#7647
Well, I just wish there was a way to override the vetos that they pull.


[31-Aug-20 01:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I see vetos as a natural consequence of having members with polar opposite philosophies


[31-Aug-20 01:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/tiktok-sale-disrupted-china-rules-give-self-veto-2020-8

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[31-Aug-20 01:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Sure these two might veto a lot, but if they attempt to pass a resolution don't you think it's natural for us to veto it as well?


[31-Aug-20 01:22 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Besides, we didn't bother with Russian or Chinese vetos when we bombed Yugoslavia


[31-Aug-20 01:23 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Although that was because we didn't bother passing a resolution either


[31-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Phelan#7647
I just think that there should be some way to go against permanent members of the security council. Like, if every country on the security council told China to stop what they're doing to the Uyghurs, it'd be a forgone conclusion that they'd veto it. That's my biggest problem with the veto system, there's no oversight for the permanent members.


[31-Aug-20 01:24 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The Presidency really aged Trump


[31-Aug-20 01:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the presidency is a very stressful job, though sources of stress tend to vary between presidents


[31-Aug-20 01:28 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah Trump looked much more vibrate when he was running now he looks a lot more like his age.


[31-Aug-20 01:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it aged obama quite a bit as well, though it was slightly less noticable because he wasn;t in his 70's


[31-Aug-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
meanwhile Trump aged like a skeksis


[31-Aug-20 01:30 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, Trump keeps calling Joe Biden sleepy Joe but Trump isn't really a spring chicken himself


[31-Aug-20 01:30 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
biden and trump are only 4 years apart as well, Trump is just shy of being in the silent generation


[31-Aug-20 01:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The Silent Generation refers to people who were born between 1925 and 1945.


[31-Aug-20 01:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I wonder why no one brings up Trump's age whenever he insults Joe Biden's age?


[31-Aug-20 01:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
because he never does it around people who can call him on it?


[31-Aug-20 01:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Biden meanwhile actually is in the silent generation


[31-Aug-20 01:34 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sadly I just hope Biden can take the stress of his term


[31-Aug-20 01:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump was born just one year late enough to be a boomer instead of a silent


[31-Aug-20 01:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Something has really been bugging me. When Trump kicks the bucket the Republican party will have to find someone to replace him. I heard its a toss up between Jr. and Ivanka


[31-Aug-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
likely ivanka or tucker carlson


[31-Aug-20 01:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Jr. is too whiney and desperate to make a good candidate ont he batshit express


[31-Aug-20 01:39 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The right also doesn't like jr. ether


[31-Aug-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or maybe jared kushner


[31-Aug-20 01:39 PM] Sally Moon#4922
haha nope


[31-Aug-20 01:39 PM] Phelan#7647
It's cause even though Trump is old, Biden is older.
Can't really attack someone for being too old if you're older.


[31-Aug-20 01:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe we should jsut stop havign 70 year old presidential candidates


[31-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The way Trump attacks Biden Trump is to paint himself like he is still in his 40s when he isn't


[31-Aug-20 01:40 PM] Phelan#7647
Not saying we shouldn't just explaining why Biden isn't attacking Trump on age.


[31-Aug-20 01:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BritishPodcast/status/1300105289522270213?s=19

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Portland is about to be national news again because a man was killed here last night.

This means that the entire Republican apparatus is going to activate and opine about what happened and what should be done in a city they've never visited.

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[31-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Sally Moon#4922
A blue dot in a sea of red, that is just sad


[31-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Opponent#3498
```Right wing groups have rioted at local businesses, used vehicles at weapons, set up sniper's nests in our downtown buildings, used chemical weapons, attacked people with hammers and other weapons, broken necks, killed multiple people... the list goes on and on.```
the list goes on and on, unlike the proof of any of it :twismug:

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[31-Aug-20 01:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so this tweet justified killing trump supporters or what


[31-Aug-20 01:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no, this tweet is a locals commentary on the police turning a blind eye to right wing militias inciting violence


[31-Aug-20 01:54 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I don't support killing Trump supporters I just want them to go back under their rocks when Trump leaves office


[31-Aug-20 01:56 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
what if trump stays,would you go back under your rock?


[31-Aug-20 01:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://twitter.com/BritishPodcast/status/1300105313803091970

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This is why we kept begging Portland Police and Ted Wheeler to do something about the flood of provocateurs who were invading our city.

Exactly this.

And this is why we are demanding a change of leadership and policing in this city.

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[31-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump would most likely lose but if he does win he won't have the Senate to protect him like he did in his first term


[31-Aug-20 01:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we hope


[31-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Phelan#7647
>British
OI MATE GOT A TWEETIN LOICENCE


[31-Aug-20 01:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
How people can invade something,they all doesnt have a jobs or what


[31-Aug-20 01:59 PM] Phelan#7647
Br\*ts are the E\*ros of E*ros


[31-Aug-20 02:00 PM] Opponent#3498
@Smug Trixie I assume the corona relief still comes though :D


[31-Aug-20 02:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
every liberal twitter yelled that those corona relifes is not enough to live


[31-Aug-20 02:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
have you tried only having 1 $1200 check to live off of?


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
it's a good setup. You refuse to pay rent because that's exploitation and slavery (it might actually be btw,with how US is set up but w/e), you refuse to get evicted cause that's police brutality and you can summon a mob to defend you at the moment's notice.


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i would dream to have 1200$ check


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Phelan#7647
What about an extra $600 a week


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Opponent#3498
keeps your expenses down.


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that ended


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, it wasn't just a $1200 cheque


[31-Aug-20 02:02 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the unemployment benefits ended and the senate jsut walked away


[31-Aug-20 02:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Unemployment insurance does not cover a full paycheck—typically, it covers about 45 percent of an individual's income. The national average weekly benefit is between $300 to $400 each week. "It depends very much on the person's level of earnings," said Wayne Vroman, a labor economist at the Urban Institute.


[31-Aug-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
basically it;s back down to this


[31-Aug-20 02:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the $600 a week was a temporary boost but the senate refused to renew it


[31-Aug-20 02:06 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Republicans are polticizing checks trying to get you to believe that people staying home and taking care of their families not getting covid is worst than going out and working risking yourself catching covid. Republicans think workers are lazy because they grovel at the alter of big business, human life matters less to them that properity


[31-Aug-20 02:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not to mention, not everyone qualified for unemployment


[31-Aug-20 02:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so 1200$ or 1600$ per month


[31-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I can agree thats not enough to pay rent in LA or NYC


[31-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Sally Moon#4922
1600 every two weeks would be sufficient


[31-Aug-20 02:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or cleveland, or other small cities


[31-Aug-20 02:08 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But for smaller cities it would be enough to pay rent and food


[31-Aug-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it wouldnt let you pay bills at all


[31-Aug-20 02:09 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That's what Republicans don't understand rent rates vary across the country what's enough for someone in NC may be chump change in NY


[31-Aug-20 02:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
bills woudl drain it right up


[31-Aug-20 02:10 PM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3099543/philippines-abs-cbn-closes-regional-stations-served-remote

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ABS-CBN closes stations that served millions of Filipinos for decades
‘It’s not just a channel … it’s a relationship, a connection that has been lost’.
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[31-Aug-20 02:10 PM] Sally Moon#4922
When does Deturte's term expire?


[31-Aug-20 02:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you want electricity, or do you want to eat?


[31-Aug-20 02:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you really need that wifi to contact the outside world? Wouldn;t you rather pay rent instead?


[31-Aug-20 02:11 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I'll take electricity I could always bum food off someone


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
landlording is not essential work, lockdown should ban landlording


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
do you mind if we raise your rent this month? it;s a small token of security because you might have covid and you;re scaring the neighbors


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
rent freeeze


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] Phelan#7647
$600 a week is equivalent to $15/hr
You also got the $600 on top of normal unemployment.


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] dissociativity#8391
landlords literally contribute nothing to the economy, they actually hurt it.


[31-Aug-20 02:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
not anymore


[31-Aug-20 02:14 PM] dissociativity#8391
if poors can't spend money on businesses, who's gonna buy your shit?


[31-Aug-20 02:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
like i said, that boost ended


[31-Aug-20 02:14 PM] Phelan#7647
People of Land, you're not supposed to say that.

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[31-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
you need poor people with money to spend on they shit to make economy go brrrr
if it all goes to rent, then that rent just gets put in a fucking landlord's bank account, it hardly helps the economy, especially if they're just paying back a mortgage, pocketing some, and not working themselves.


[31-Aug-20 02:15 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/the-600-unemployment-boost-has-ended-whats-next.html

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The $600 unemployment boost has ended. What's next?
The $600 weekly enhancement to unemployment benefits ended Friday. Lawmakers are trying to figure out what comes next as millions of Americans brace for a steep drop in aid.
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[31-Aug-20 02:15 PM] dissociativity#8391
if your 'landlording' job is sitting on your ass collecting money you're just a parasite through and through, a tick getting fat off of the blood of the poor


[31-Aug-20 02:15 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok communist


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
landlords are an obsolete leftover of feudalism.


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
banks works the same way,lets close them too


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/07/24/unemployment-benefits-end-tomorrow/#2c50297249d6

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Stimulus Update: $600 A Week Unemployment Benefits End Today
Unless Congress acts now, the $600 a week unemployment benefits will end tomorrow.
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[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yes.


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Phelan#7647
Ok, end of the month is today. Don't forget your tip.


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
If push comes to shove I thing I'll pull a Dutch move and eat my politician


[31-Aug-20 02:16 PM] dissociativity#8391
imagine being such a cuck that you defend landlords, absolutely cringe, like I'm sorry, it's not an insult, you're a simp if you defend landlords, through and through


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe american banks should shut down


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
only the lowliest of the low bootlickers be defending landlords


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Phelan#7647
I'll defend my fellow landchads


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
custom office is also does not contribute anything to the society lets close those too


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] dissociativity#8391
Yes, I should be able to order drugs and guns online.


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
they gamble with our money, and enforce horrible debt rates


[31-Aug-20 02:17 PM] Sally Moon#4922
"But, but I might think about wanting to be a Landlord someday" said some derp


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
I can simply learn bomb detecting and disarming tactics, she'll be rite


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
landlords literally just sit on their ass and make YOU pay their mortgage that they should be paying.


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the customs office is a public service, it;s not meant to be profitable


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] dissociativity#8391
if I pay the mortgage, I should get the house, only fair.
I paid for it.


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Someone should tell Dejoy that


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] Phelan#7647
No


[31-Aug-20 02:18 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thats like saying the military is supposed to bring in profit


[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
houses should go to those that actually pay for them.


[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
there is difference between rent and mortgage


[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Phelan#7647

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[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
where?


[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
...


[31-Aug-20 02:19 PM] dissociativity#8391
rent pays for the mortgage, so how are you not paying the mortgage?


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Renting, also known as hiring or letting, is an agreement where a payment is made for the temporary use of a good, service or property owned by another. A gross lease is when the tenant pays a flat rental amount and the landlord pays for all property charges regularly incurred by the ownership. An example of renting is equipment rental. Renting can be an example of the sharing economy.


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
I don't see what strange mental gymnastics this requires, you'd have to have brain worms or something.


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Sally Moon#4922
That meme hit harder than it should


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
A mortgage loan or simply mortgage (/ˈmɔːrɡɪdʒ/) is a loan used either by purchasers of real property to raise funds to buy real estate, or alternatively by existing property owners to raise funds for any purpose while putting a lien on the property being mortgaged. The loan is "secured" on the borrower's property through a process known as mortgage origination. This means that a legal mechanism is put into place which allows the lender to take possession and sell the secured property ("foreclosure" or "repossession") to pay off the loan in the event the borrower defaults on the loan or otherwise fails to abide by its terms. The word mortgage is derived from a Law French term used in Britain in the Middle Ages meaning "death pledge" and refers to the pledge ending (dying) when either the obligation is fulfilled or the property is taken through foreclosure.[1] A mortgage can also be described as "a borrower giving consideration in the form of a collateral for a benefit (loan)".


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
did mr stonetoss over here get a property inherited from daddy?


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nope


[31-Aug-20 02:20 PM] dissociativity#8391
else why would you stan landlording?


[31-Aug-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
they are literally parasites that take half your money because you need shelter to not die of exposure and have a place to put ur shit n sleep


[31-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
people deserves to live without jobs


[31-Aug-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
if they want that maybe they should work like the rest of us and save instead of being parasites, use their savings.


[31-Aug-20 02:21 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nobody should work


[31-Aug-20 02:21 PM] dissociativity#8391
or maybe UBI is inevitable with increasing automation.


[31-Aug-20 02:22 PM] dissociativity#8391
of course, they could just cut social spending and change the law so they can shoot 'vagrants' for 'loitering'


[31-Aug-20 02:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
the more automation and efficiency there is, the less hours should need working yes, that was the point in winning the 40 hour work week like a century+ ago, so that said week goes down as technology gets better too.


[31-Aug-20 02:23 PM] dissociativity#8391
not just becoming huge cucks to capitalism because it makes CEOs and shareholders more than ever


[31-Aug-20 02:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
not everyone have 40h work bro


[31-Aug-20 02:24 PM] dissociativity#8391
instead people still gotta work 40 hours while they make more product, do more of X, Y and Z per hour than ever before.

the invention of the lightbulb just made capitalists make people work longer.


[31-Aug-20 02:25 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
before lightbulbs there was kerosine laterns nothing changed


[31-Aug-20 02:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
some people have a 39 hour work week so their job doesnt have to give thme benefits


[31-Aug-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
if there was a drug that made you not have to sleep, capitalists would make you take it and give you 80 hour work weeks for less pay


[31-Aug-20 02:25 PM] dissociativity#8391
it's simply rational.


[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Talking about people working less, what will people do who are not that cognitive capable? People whose jobs are taken by automation?


[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
Art, invention, creative works in general?

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[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
jerk off and play video games? lol


[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] dissociativity#8391
some people just like studying and learning shit, plenty of us do.


[31-Aug-20 02:26 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
where would they take money to pay a rent and food


[31-Aug-20 02:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Art, invention and creative are high cognitive tasks and not everyone capable of it.


[31-Aug-20 02:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
maybe they should be free to jerk off and play video games then, and there can be a lottery for excess work that still needs to be done by humans


[31-Aug-20 02:27 PM] dissociativity#8391
draw in the lottery? off to work for a bit this week.


[31-Aug-20 02:28 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
And besides that, TFDNE/TPDNE look promising to replace art jobs too.


[31-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
or people will simply choose to do work because things need to be done and they feel like they're improving society, people do that, people volunteer, plenty do.

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[31-Aug-20 02:28 PM] dissociativity#8391
so long as things need to be done, there is work, capitalism just restricts said work to who's willing to pay, volunteering is largely impractical due to capitalism.


[31-Aug-20 02:29 PM] dissociativity#8391
without capitalism, you'd wanna repair a damn pothole because it's a pain in the ass still lol


[31-Aug-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
it turns out having your time commodified and being treated like a cog makes you feel like shit eh?

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[31-Aug-20 02:30 PM] dissociativity#8391
anyway am sleepy dumb poo poo head not as awake as usual for some reason brain no werk today grug time


[31-Aug-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
so I will take a break and wind down, I feel like I'm sorta blabbering lol.


[31-Aug-20 02:31 PM] dissociativity#8391
grug made to pick berry and grill and vibe by campfire, grug no like 'job'


[31-Aug-20 02:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Sleep sounds like a smashing idea


[31-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391
grug only want help all tribe, not just 'porky' shaman tribe


[31-Aug-20 02:32 PM] dissociativity#8391

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[31-Aug-20 02:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
http://huffp.st/SfbwsjU
Apparently they're still propping up his corpse like a mouthpiece

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The former presidential candidate died of the virus in July, but his family continues to tweet conspiracy theories from his account.
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[31-Aug-20 02:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
was this in his will or something...?


[31-Aug-20 02:44 PM] Audrey#7852

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[31-Aug-20 02:45 PM] Opponent#3498
:cringe:


[31-Aug-20 02:46 PM] Phelan#7647
I hope that he would get the same treatment as a black dude, being freed cause it's obviously self defence.


[31-Aug-20 02:47 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677859/Counter-protester-pulls-gun-Black-Lives-Matter-activist-Tallahassee.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top

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Counter-protester pulls a gun on BLM activist in Tallahassee
The dramatic moment occurred at the end of a BLM rally outside the Florida Capitol Building on Saturday evening.
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[31-Aug-20 02:49 PM] Audrey#7852
Back ot the topic on jobs that should all be automated, and for everyone who hate Mondays

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[31-Aug-20 02:55 PM] Audrey#7852
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/02/why-intellectuals-are-not-conservatives/71079/

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Why Intellectuals Are Not Conservatives
Understanding why academics tend to lean Liberal
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[31-Aug-20 02:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey thats not true he took that rifle from a friend that live in kenosha


[31-Aug-20 03:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
On the topic of gun control


[31-Aug-20 03:00 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I agree with measures that do not restrict the gun types themselves but rather target the owners


[31-Aug-20 03:01 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
e.g background checks, minimum age, mandatory training, etc


[31-Aug-20 03:01 PM] Audrey#7852
That's illegal. He's under 18. 
Politics generally, are there a lot of right wing intellectuals or far-right intellectuals? Writers, artists, musicians, journalists? I don't know enough but I'm reading more on Einstein's political views and it's a good read.


[31-Aug-20 03:06 PM] Phelan#7647
Even if he couldn't legally carry it, he can legally defend himself with it.
Felons have defended their lives with stolen guns and only got charged with the weapons charges.


[31-Aug-20 03:27 PM] Audrey#7852
Get him arrested for Illegal Carry since you believe in Law And Order


[31-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Phelan#7647
I don't think that he was illegally carrying, that's the thing.


[31-Aug-20 03:29 PM] Audrey#7852
For those on the back who didn't pay attention this is an armed right wing teenager rushing into a BLM protest, people who protest violence against minority, they are poor, this rich kid comes to kill them


[31-Aug-20 03:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it was illegal for him to carry the gun, therefore it;s an illegal carry


[31-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't care about what you're thinking! This presidency so far has shown the darkest side of human beings, selfishness and stomping on protestors like this should be considered a CAH


[31-Aug-20 03:31 PM] Audrey#7852
And illegal to kill someone.


[31-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Phelan#7647
That law makes exceptions if it's not an SBR, if he's not under 16, and he's not hunting without a license.


[31-Aug-20 03:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i stand correected, he was technically of age, he was only illegal in illinois. which raises another problem with our gun laws...


[31-Aug-20 03:32 PM] Audrey#7852
When someone come in ammo suit and with an assault rifle AK47, no training on an area where protests are to cause trouble, and the guy in front of him  has a skateboard and a small handgun he is not in legitimate defense

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[31-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Audrey#7852
He is more armed than the average pig here!


[31-Aug-20 03:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we really need to be more universal with these laws...

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[31-Aug-20 03:33 PM] Opponent#3498
@prism stryder(intexda) I think giving up a bit on the state individuality would _really_ benefit everyone.


[31-Aug-20 03:34 PM] wren#0114
nuuuu


[31-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
this '4 countries under a greatcoat' thing is bs


[31-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Phelan#7647
No, you know what's a legitimate defense? "I was fearing for my life"


[31-Aug-20 03:34 PM] wren#0114
federal gun control would be horrible


[31-Aug-20 03:34 PM] Opponent#3498
or however many they are now...


[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Audrey#7852
Do you mean anyone can shout "I fear for my life!" and gets the right to kill? That's what you really meant to say Phelan? (um. no)

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[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
but then I'm not the one living there. And individuality _does_ give an option to move to where fits you better, fund permitting.


[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Phelan#7647
You don't need to actually *be* in danger to use force, you just need to reasonably fear for it.


[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Opponent#3498
the hot takes just keep coming today eh Audrey


[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Audrey#7852
I had a bad day


[31-Aug-20 03:35 PM] Phelan#7647
Getting chased by someone, hearing a handgun, and then seeing someone still chasing after you would make me scared for my life.


[31-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Opponent#3498
well, Internet _is_ for venting, as much as porn.


[31-Aug-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
florida has a law liek that, if you scream "I fear for my life" you can just randomely punch a guy. But that's not really equivalent tot his situation


[31-Aug-20 03:36 PM] Audrey#7852
And hot takes are worse on the opposite if you read the whole conversation


[31-Aug-20 03:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was just reminded that was a thing in florida


[31-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Audrey#7852
If you can use your own force as a mean of defense yes. Yoyu can put someone K-O, but hardly kill.


[31-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Phelan#7647
A single punch can kill.


[31-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Audrey#7852
Unless you are punching a 90yo Nazi and he dies. (Good)


[31-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/appeals-court-temporarily-halts-protections-journalists-legal-observers/story?id=72688755

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A three-judge panel on Thursday temporarily halted protections for journalists and legal observers covering the unrest In Portland, Oregon.
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[31-Aug-20 03:37 PM] Phelan#7647
...no if he gets knocked out and hits the pavement hard... That can easily kill...


[31-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Opponent#3498
um. Okay then @Tsp


[31-Aug-20 03:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
oh look a violation fo the first amendment


[31-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Opponent#3498
'temporary suspensions'. Okay. So we're in for a dictatorship after all.


[31-Aug-20 03:38 PM] Opponent#3498
like full-on classic one.


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Phelan: Yes if you use other items, that's how Clément Méric died being punched by neonazis here


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
Damn.


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Audrey#7852
Also research curb stomp


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] dissociativity#8391
They really just wanna be able to do what they've been doing the whole time.


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Phelan#7647
What are you talking about? I'm just saying that you could easily kill a person in a single strike.


[31-Aug-20 03:39 PM] Audrey#7852
That's what nazis are doing to kill people.


[31-Aug-20 03:40 PM] dissociativity#8391
Shooting journalists.


[31-Aug-20 03:40 PM] Audrey#7852
In America, the year 2020.


[31-Aug-20 03:43 PM] Phelan#7647
I still don't get what you're getting at, how does some guy being killed by other means disprove that people can be killed with a single strike. Knock a dude out and he lands on something as he falls: death. Punch causes internal bleeding: dead. Blood clot: dead. None of this is likely, but it can still happen.

Also, you don't know what someone's gonna do after they knock you out.


[31-Aug-20 03:46 PM] wren#0114
leave me alone and I'll leave you alone

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[31-Aug-20 03:49 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
:tired:


[31-Aug-20 03:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514382-texas-democrats-roll-out-major-voter-registration-push-as-election-day

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[31-Aug-20 03:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/514383-angus-king-ending-election-security-briefings-looks-like-a-pre-cover-up

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Sen. Angus King (I-Maine) on Monday blasted Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe’s announcement that his office will no longer deliver in-person election security briefings to Congress, saying it “looks like a pre-coverup.”
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[31-Aug-20 03:52 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> "I can’t get into the head of these people, but we have a president who never likes to hear the word ‘Russia,’ at least not in the context of the relationships or of Russia meddling in our elections,” King told CNN.
> 
> “I hate to say this but it looks like a pre-coverup. It looks like they don’t want to share the information, they’re covering up information,” he added. “I don’t know what they have or don’t have, but it looks like they’re trying to keep this information from the public so when everybody goes to vote on November 3rd, they won’t know the extent to which they’ve been attempted to be influenced by the Russians or some other country.”


[31-Aug-20 03:53 PM] wren#0114
ah yes, more russia hoax


[31-Aug-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://apnews.com/5e833a62e9492f6a66624b7920cc846a

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Trump campaign's Russia contacts 'grave' threat, Senate says
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian intelligence services during the 2016 presidential election posed a “grave” counterintelligence threat, a Senate panel concluded...
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[31-Aug-20 03:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
except not a hoax


[31-Aug-20 04:17 PM] Opponent#3498
well, last time Clinton was accused of working with russians, now dems would have a vested interest to distance themselves from it as much as possible.


[31-Aug-20 04:39 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://derpibooru.org/images/2413803#comment_9240271 

You know i find it funny that a comment like this is 100% a ok on this non poltcal image but saying that the cops gassed protesters in lafet square june 2nd 2020 isnt hunky dory

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[31-Aug-20 04:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Or the paintballs shot at people on there porch for being on there porch


[31-Aug-20 04:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if it;s proven, i;d be all for charging clinton on an election meddling charge, if there;s actuall proof


[31-Aug-20 04:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if you want to discuss the police thing on the site itself, derpi has a tartaurus thread


[31-Aug-20 04:46 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://derpibooru.org/forums/generals/topics/tartarus

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[31-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Yes but it's really kinda funny that when i report people for saying stuff like this the report is ignored despite what there saying is just as poltical as mine


[31-Aug-20 04:47 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Isn't just a bit funny that when i bring up evedence of cops not doing ok things it gets supressed


[31-Aug-20 04:48 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
While these guys can talk about how great cops are


[31-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Are you seriously accusing derpi's staff of being pro-cop given all the bullshit that's gone on in the last two months

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[31-Aug-20 04:49 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Hey if my comments are banned and there comments are fine then...

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[31-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
A report of pro cop poltical posting on a non poltcal image goes ignored


[31-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Audrey#7852
"I like the pro-police angle of it" ????


[31-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Beacuse i have no clue


[31-Aug-20 04:51 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Maybe consider your comments were trying to bring up a barely related topic to start drama


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[31-Aug-20 04:53 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And this isnt


[31-Aug-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a mod literally gave you guys a warning not to start shit


[31-Aug-20 04:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the person in that picture included


[31-Aug-20 04:55 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And they didn't remove there coments


[31-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
When they removed mine


[31-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes because channers will seize the opportunity to out you as a "evil communist"

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[31-Aug-20 04:56 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Almost like censor ship


[31-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
[this comment removed by blue lives matter all glory to non poltcal cute pony cop pic]

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[31-Aug-20 04:57 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
[nothing happened june 2nd 2020]


[31-Aug-20 04:58 PM] Audrey#7852
We must be cautious, that's also for your safety, hon. 😦


[31-Aug-20 04:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
their comments are vague, you straight up posted about lafeyette square


[31-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Audrey#7852
I dislike this image so much


[31-Aug-20 04:59 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
2+2=5 big brother best freind forever says so


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[31-Aug-20 05:01 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Shown: heroic actions
https://upolitics.com/news/police-use-tear-gas-to-clear-peaceful-protestors-from-lafayette-square-for-trump-photo-op-at-st-johns-church/

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[31-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Teaspoon#9532
What does "I'm a hero" have to do with cops


[31-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Opponent#3498
just people trying to start shit. Le sigh.


[31-Aug-20 05:02 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Good question


[31-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Audrey#7852
Just the idea of portraying cops this way, cute and friendly in this time is kind of grim. And I wonder who is trying to start


[31-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Better question why not remove these poltical comments when my comments where removed


[31-Aug-20 05:03 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You all realize there's an entire world outside of the US

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[31-Aug-20 05:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
there are still cops doing their job normally without assaulting people :hopeless: especially in other countries

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[31-Aug-20 05:04 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With countries where the police are well trained and respect the citizenry


[31-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And I still don't see how "I'm a hero" is a political or pro-cop statement, especially not to the point you think your response is merited or its equivalent to bringing up Lafayette park or Tienanmen square


[31-Aug-20 05:05 PM] Opponent#3498
I also wonder how Lafayette park became equal to Tienanmen.


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Suppression of protests


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
do you people honestly think China's authorities are so soft or smth xD


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Audrey#7852
'Do not post content whose only apparent purpose is inciting anger, arguments, or controversy.'


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
tiananmen square straight up smoothied those protestors


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
laffeyette was nothign compared to tianenman


[31-Aug-20 05:06 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Live ammo and all. I was suprised the tanks didn't open fire when I read it.


[31-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
it really does not compare even remotely.


[31-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Suppression of protests in a square is still suppression


[31-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Opponent#3498
:wheeze:


[31-Aug-20 05:07 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So it wasnt supression that protesters where gassed


[31-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Opponent#3498
I feel we need several different :cringe: emotes specifically for this channel.

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[31-Aug-20 05:08 PM] illumnious#7938
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/514387-4-in-10-americans-in-new-poll-back-trump-on-tiktok-order

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[31-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Dude, what happened in Lafayette was a disgrace and in normal circumstances should be enough to have Trump kicked out of office

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[31-Aug-20 05:08 PM] Teaspoon#9532
But don't compare it to soldiers firing live ammo directly at people


[31-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Or tanks rolling down the streets


[31-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
With the intent to fire on civilians


[31-Aug-20 05:09 PM] Audrey#7852
That's just the act preceding shooting up civilians.


[31-Aug-20 05:09 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and ground them into a fine meat paste


[31-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Suppression of free protests is bad

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[31-Aug-20 05:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s the extremeties of it


[31-Aug-20 05:10 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Live ammo or no


[31-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
smh. It's the same.


[31-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Opponent#3498
so you'll be entirely fine with them shooting up dozens of you to get you to disperse, method is irrelevant as long as you disagree with the goal. Okay.


[31-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Yes it's bad but jesus christ, don't disrespect the people that died by comparing the two as equal


[31-Aug-20 05:11 PM] Audrey#7852
not the same degree of violence but the same state of mind, by 2020's standards it's the same logic of silencing the opposition.


[31-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Opponent wait im confused do you think laffet square was bad or not


[31-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Opponent#3498
> '2020's standards'
:lul:


[31-Aug-20 05:12 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Audrey please stop being like this


[31-Aug-20 05:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
by 2020's standards tianenmen square is still the most extreme end of things


[31-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
@Gordon Freeman I disagree with the concept of 'evil is evil regardless of scale'.


[31-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
because then everything turns out evil.


[31-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm trying, but the more I see what's going on in the world, in these times, the more I'm in tears.


[31-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Teaspoon#9532
You're saying so many silly things it's impossible for me to tell if you're just 15 or are a plant reading off anti-leftist memes and playing a character

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[31-Aug-20 05:13 PM] Opponent#3498
do I agree with police dispersing BLM in 2nd June? No, I don't particularily care either way, it's a natural development given the circumstances.


[31-Aug-20 05:14 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
laffeyette square was bad, however it;s no where near the logical extreme that's been done before


[31-Aug-20 05:14 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm not a political expert, Teaspoon, but rare are the places I can express myself on these topics, that's why! Sorry if I don't have the same level as others have, in English and understanding but there's topics I can't just shrug about and ignore! But I keep getting criticized for my views which are said too radical. You have no idea what I'm enduring.


[31-Aug-20 05:16 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Im kinda getting dizzy for being in a moveing car while type


[31-Aug-20 05:16 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the horrible things, is at the time it happened, Trump mused about enacting that sort of thing on american protestors. This was back in the 1989


[31-Aug-20 05:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i hope you arent driving


[31-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
So i didnt want to piss off anyone or say anthing crazy


[31-Aug-20 05:17 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
No im a passanger


[31-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Opponent#3498
better be happy Liang's not here, I think he'd be much less polite about that comparison than we were :twismug:


[31-Aug-20 05:18 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Ok
Anyway will talk later


[31-Aug-20 05:19 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
We still all cool @prism stryder(intexda) @Teaspoon @Opponent


[31-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I haven't been cool since the 90s


[31-Aug-20 05:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
I've been radical since

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[31-Aug-20 05:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[31-Aug-20 05:29 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Didn't the US lose Vietnam because they underestimated how willing their opponents would be to endure


[31-Aug-20 05:29 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Even when the US kept horribly mauling the Vietnamese in nearly every engagement they kept coming


[31-Aug-20 05:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It was too politically costly


[31-Aug-20 05:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And yes, the K/D ratio was absurd


[31-Aug-20 05:33 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/joviilius/status/1299800533792940032

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[31-Aug-20 05:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i already read it months ago, and it;s pretty fuckin telling on why our police system is so fucked in the head


[31-Aug-20 05:38 PM] Audrey#7852
I just found it, and it's not news. Police is trained and recruited for being violent.


[31-Aug-20 05:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, basically they weaponize ptsd and distrust


[31-Aug-20 05:43 PM] Audrey#7852
They're the same in France, training is longer, you need to pass more tests and practice before being a basic cop. And it's not even sufficient, we have still cops that takes a few month of training: The CRS.


[31-Aug-20 05:45 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[31-Aug-20 05:50 PM] Audrey#7852
@Teaspoon can we talk?


[31-Aug-20 05:53 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i think he's offline


[31-Aug-20 05:54 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I'm gonna need citation for the claim that workplace diversity hinders union activity

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[31-Aug-20 05:56 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes, because we can have both a wide diversity AND unions, and the presence of unions reinforces diversity and ensures equal pay.


[31-Aug-20 05:57 PM] Audrey#7852
"Stonetoss" Trixie, I don't really know what are your intentions in this room, being subversive and contradicting. I wish I could understand and analyze your reasoning.


[31-Aug-20 05:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://archive.fo/1khJw

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Whole Foods tracks unionization risk with heat map - Business Insider
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[31-Aug-20 06:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
cant see any links to documents tho,i guess its inside from that company


[31-Aug-20 06:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey my intentions is to show people that different opinions on certain things exist even if you hate them


[31-Aug-20 06:03 PM] Audrey#7852
Are you using hot takes like this very often or just on this chatroom? There are many of your posts I may agree with, others that screams toxic. PM me if you wish to talk about it instead of derailing this board and annoy the mods.


[31-Aug-20 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://files.osf.io/v1/resources/ygbmn/providers/osfstorage/57ddaa53b83f6901e59e243f?action=download&direct&version=1


[31-Aug-20 06:07 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently it's a complicated issue, but does not come down to interracial animosity within the workplace


[31-Aug-20 06:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Rather, it seems that employers are more likely to use harsher crackdown methods when faced with a diverse workforce with more marginalized elements, and the thought of that might be what frightens the workers

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[31-Aug-20 06:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Nowhere is it confirmed that minorities are supposedly more "docile" towards employers if that's the point being made. Hispanics, in particular, have a very rich labor struggle tradition


[31-Aug-20 06:13 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> Why do employers intimidate and fire workers more often when work groups are more diverse? As with the withdrawal rate, this is not simply the result of different employer re- actions to workers of different races. Table 5 shows that employers are more likely to be charged with ULPs when more black workers are involved in the organizing drive,15 but that diversity carries an additional risk even when controlling for this. I have argued that stronger employer reactions to the mobilization of diverse work groups is in line with other research on the repression of collective action (Earl, Soule & McCarthy 2003, Davenport, Soule & Armstrong II 2011), and indeed this trend may just reflect the divide-and-rule tactics that American employers have long used in fighting union organizing campaigns (Lichtenstein 2002, Clawson 2003, Fantasia & Voss 2004). The obvious next step for future research in this vein will be to flesh out the characteristics of the employers involved, to understand what if any features those who commit unfair labor practices share beyond the demographics of their workforces.


[31-Aug-20 06:14 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Not to be too conspiratorial but i kinda believe that Whole Foods report was fabricated by Amazon-affiliated elements to sow discord among the Amazon workforce and discourage workplace agitation. If unions are segregated among racial lines then they'll be easier to crush


[31-Aug-20 06:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> This study has shown that, in line with such beliefs, bargaining units that are formed are less diverse than bargaining units that try to form. Yet I have also shown that, when given the chance to express their preferences at election, more diverse groups opt for unions. As befits a process involving other potentially influential actors (King, Cornwall & Dahlin 2005, Ferguson 2008), we gain more understanding of the relationship between racial diversity and union formation if we widen our focus to include other stages of that process and the actors beyond the workers themselves. While workers’ cohesion matters, so too does the union’s skill at choosing where to file petitions and, most importantly, the employer’s willingness to respond beyond what the law allows. Perhaps the most surprising finding here is that employers are charged with intimidating and firing people more often in more racially diverse work groups.


[31-Aug-20 06:30 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/SlaughterPony/status/1300115286641840128

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Let's be really clear because I also think cancel culture is fucking cancer, but what's happening to Etherium is ***NOT*** cancel culture. https://t.co/nYHhJEyQSw https://t.co/HT5oxxToHz
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[31-Aug-20 06:32 PM] Audrey#7852
I share a similar opinion on Cancel Culture, one form is seen as censorship, another form will be called Cancelling while it's just exposing who and what some persons really are!


[31-Aug-20 06:37 PM] Audrey#7852
https://twitter.com/BroniesThe/status/1300283577217830913 I'm not even sure if those 'bronies' are really part of the community.

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@Queen_Buggo 
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[31-Aug-20 06:40 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
I would like a proof that those people are nazis or racists please


[31-Aug-20 06:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2020/07/nist-launches-studies-masks-effect-face-recognition-software

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Now that so many of us are covering our faces to help reduce the spread of COVID-19, how well do face recognition algorithms identify people wearing masks?
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[31-Aug-20 06:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Now that so many of us are covering our faces to help reduce the spread of COVID-19, how well do face recognition algorithms identify people wearing masks? The answer, according to a preliminary study by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), is with great difficulty. Even the best of the 89 commercial facial recognition algorithms tested had error rates between 5% and 50% in matching digitally applied face masks with photos of the same person without a mask.


[31-Aug-20 06:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Audrey do you have any proofs that those people are racist nazies?


[31-Aug-20 06:50 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm trying to know more but EtheriumApex, along with FarRightDiscord and a couple more 'bronies' harrassed people on Twitter, including myself.


[31-Aug-20 06:54 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Yo, don't go witch hunt in here

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[31-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Audrey#7852
Alright, any pointer or advice where I can know or talk about it?


[31-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
reddit or twitter


[31-Aug-20 06:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
but i wouldnt trust twitter,too many trolls


[31-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Ungoliant#7236
You wanna discuss politics? Fine. You wanna spread barely substantiated accusations, libeling people all willy nilly? that's a hard no.


[31-Aug-20 06:56 PM] Audrey#7852
I'd love on Twitter but I still haven't got a response from the staff, being reported as a spammer, force locked after receiving calls and SMS verifications all the night. In the end I try to log in entering a code and get 'too many attempts' (If anyone have been there, please PM!) 🙂


[31-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Ungoliant#7236
I'd advise not to do it at all personally


[31-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Ungoliant#7236
better feng shui


[31-Aug-20 06:57 PM] Audrey#7852
It's not me who's accusing them, just found this tweet. Then it's up to us to think critically and research who they are but I'm taking good note 🙂


[31-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Ungoliant#7236
Twitter is basically "mob justice, the website" now

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[31-Aug-20 06:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or just evade post where no proofs given


[31-Aug-20 07:00 PM] Audrey#7852
This is also a solution I have been thinking of but my # is now rejected. I will ask some geek friend if she can help 👀


[31-Aug-20 07:03 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah, that tweet offers no evidence to back up it;s claims. It also seems to have been removed by twitter mods


[31-Aug-20 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Those lists are just made via "they follow anontheanon"

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[31-Aug-20 07:09 PM] Teaspoon#9532
And little else

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[31-Aug-20 07:12 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm trying to understand who's who in there


[31-Aug-20 07:19 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/international/514429-pompeo-says-trump-looking-at-whether-to-restrict-chinese-students-from

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President Trump is weighing restricting Chinese students from studying in the U.S., Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in an interview Monday, adding that the administration is likely to announce new actions against Beijing in the coming weeks an
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[31-Aug-20 07:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-unemployment-benefit-states-jobless-aid-lost-wages-lasts-month-2020-8

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Trump's $300 unemployment benefit is set to be paid in 34 states. B...
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[31-Aug-20 07:28 PM] Marukomuru#8409
Legit surprised I'm not on that list tbh


[31-Aug-20 07:29 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I mean it's not that hard to run "oc:aryanne,artist:*,-vector" on literally any imagedump :shrugpony:


[31-Aug-20 07:30 PM] Marukomuru#8409
I sure hope they don't have a Netflix subscription though, or else I could make some assumptions myself :chickun:


[31-Aug-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well if having a netflix subscription is a requirment, then apparently i;m on a list somewhere


[31-Aug-20 07:32 PM] Phelan#7647
Posting lists of flimsy accusations is still perpetuating mob justice.


[31-Aug-20 07:33 PM] Phelan#7647
"Oh I didn't actually lynch them, I just invited more people into the mob"

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[31-Aug-20 07:33 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yeah pretty much


[31-Aug-20 07:35 PM] Opponent#3498
I mean, 'perpetuating mob justice', Audrey said it themselves, they explicitly support wootmaster & co, they personally have done and would do 'Twitter justice' again and think it's a wonderful idea that deserves to be brought into meatspace. It checks out :shrugpony:


[31-Aug-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it;s sort of like saying all netflix users are pedophiles because netflix has cuties

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[31-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That list is so lazy it's probably just some random shit stirrer tbh


[31-Aug-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
most likely


[31-Aug-20 07:37 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Some people get addicted to drama and need to fabricate some when it doesn't happen "naturally"


[31-Aug-20 07:38 PM] jlun2#8758
is the derpi drama still going wtf


[31-Aug-20 07:39 PM] Opponent#3498
the drama's over. Some people are refusing to give up though.


[31-Aug-20 07:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/poll-more-us-troops-say-they-prefer-biden-to-trump-2020-8

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[31-Aug-20 07:40 PM] Opponent#3498
gut their medical support, blab out Special Forces tactics more or less live as they're engaging, etc. No wonder.


[31-Aug-20 07:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
dont forget the war criminal pardoning


[31-Aug-20 07:43 PM] Opponent#3498
EU redeployment that costs money, creates headaches and does fuck all useful in the end


[31-Aug-20 07:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and then demanding that the war criminals be put in a place of authority in rank


[31-Aug-20 07:44 PM] Opponent#3498
(although I bet with that they'd just stall until after the elections, like any smart people would do)


[31-Aug-20 07:48 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and thne there's calling their intelligence developments "fake news"


[31-Aug-20 07:51 PM] Serval#4825

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[31-Aug-20 08:13 PM] Opponent#3498
I'm not sure if intelligence counts in this, but regardless, there's plenty of grievances even without them.


[31-Aug-20 08:14 PM] Itsthinking#8251
So stance on this take: Minnesota going red is inevitable, if not this election then 2024

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[31-Aug-20 08:22 PM] jlun2#8758
<https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-minnesota-could-be-the-next-midwestern-state-to-go-red/>
> What explains Minnesota’s rightward shift? Fifty-three percent of the population age 25 and older are non-Hispanic white and lack a bachelor’s degree, a demographic with which Republicans — and especially Trump — have been gaining ground. 
people w/ no credentials making way more than be makes me immensely jealous


[31-Aug-20 08:23 PM] Audrey#7852
(Phelan, I would not go as far as calling all of them racist as BroniesThe presented them, but for checking in deep, they are more there to mock people, be offensive and just your average MAGA fan)


[31-Aug-20 08:24 PM] Audrey#7852
Jiun2, it doesn't means other states won't shift to blue


[31-Aug-20 08:24 PM] jlun2#8758
i still get dreams of being late on assignments & failing exams a year after graduation.
im having school "ptsd" for min wage :ts_cry:

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[31-Aug-20 08:26 PM] Audrey#7852
I'm sorry, have you been bullied in school or abused?


[31-Aug-20 08:26 PM] jlun2#8758
bullied in high school & expelled 4 times
almost got kicked out uni for low grades
im not a smart pony

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[31-Aug-20 08:28 PM] Audrey#7852
It's okay, school isn't a competition, it happens to others. Schools roles alas tend to act like you have to be a good robot, repeat what you read, and be a good worker or law abiding citizen


[31-Aug-20 08:29 PM] Audrey#7852
I realize how much the psychological impact it gives on adulthood.


[31-Aug-20 08:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and if you;re in special ed, be a "good student" and take your 1st to 4th grade lessons

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[31-Aug-20 08:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that's why i dropped out after second year


[31-Aug-20 08:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/appeals-court-rules-judiciary-committee-cannot-enforce-don-mcgahn-subpoena-2020-8

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A federal appeals court gutted Congress' subpoena power in a massiv...
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[31-Aug-20 09:21 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2020/08/31/poll-finds-a-third-of-americans-think-they-handled-covid-19-better-than-canada-and-are-also-delusional.html

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Poll finds a third of Americans think they handled COVID-19 better ...
No matter how miserable Americans get, they still think they surpass everyone else. This is American exceptionalism quantified. Whereas Canadians don’...
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[31-Aug-20 09:21 PM] Teaspoon#9532
**USA #1** is pathetically engrained


[31-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Teaspoon#9532
motherfucker, /s actually substitutes


[31-Aug-20 09:22 PM] Pharynx#4802
afaik only works with words, not regexps


[31-Aug-20 09:23 PM] Pharynx#4802
even though the syntax is for a substitution regexp...


[31-Aug-20 09:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.ems1.com/legal/articles/5-ways-to-manage-conflicts-with-cops-in-a-medical-emergency-tBRyX6Qd4d1kfEBv/

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5 ways to manage conflicts with cops in a medical emergency
He's not drunk, he's having a stroke; use these tips to make sure the patient, not the suspect, receives proper care
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[31-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Crow#5457
I found out there's a streak of incidents where police interfere with EMS because of that video where the police forcefully eject the protest medics trying to help that guy who got shot in portland


[31-Aug-20 09:31 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Just shoot them before they can hinder you, simple as that.


[31-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Crow#5457
wtf?


[31-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
shitpost


[31-Aug-20 09:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
I mean, I thought it was funny


[31-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
> Knowing that “clearing for booking” was not even a legal activity, he continued with his regular assessment. Based on his objective findings, the paramedic believed the patient was not under the influence; rather, he was likely having a stroke or some other neurological problem and he directed that the patient be prepared for transport.
> 
> “You’re not transporting him. He’s just drunk!” one of the officers told him.
> 
> My client was surprised at that response. He made every effort to explain the potential seriousness of the medical situation, but the officers on scene were not having any of it.
> 
> Despite the absence of any odor of alcohol and despite the 0.00% reading on the Preliminary Alcohol Screening device, it was the officer’s untrained medical opinion that the patient’s altered mental status was the result of intoxicants and not a stroke.


[31-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
> 1. Don’t waste your breath
> 
> Police officers are trained to be aggressive, assertive, controlling, and correct in all situations. Going head-to-head is not a winning strategy and going toe-to-toe is not going to end well, either for the patient or for you.
> 
> Don’t waste your breath telling them how much they don’t know or why they are wrong. Instead, calmly remind them of the liability they are inviting and accepting by not allowing you to do your job. Make letting you do your job their idea.


[31-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
this is hilarious to me


[31-Aug-20 09:35 PM] Crow#5457
basically just calling them dumb meatheads


[31-Aug-20 09:36 PM] Crow#5457
and having to basically manipulate them into thinking it was their idea to treat the patient


[31-Aug-20 09:37 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
“Don’t waste your breath telling them how much they don’t know or why they’re wrong. Instead, incapacitate them and wait to take care of them later.”


[31-Aug-20 09:43 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Lowkey tho if a officer hinders medical assistance, then they’re definitely fucked to not see the wounded fellow as a dying


[31-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the paramedic even got in trouble for letting the police arrest the guy having a stroke


[31-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
to me, it seems like having the police be in charge of anything is a bad idea


[31-Aug-20 09:48 PM] Crow#5457
like they need specially trained handlers or something


[31-Aug-20 09:49 PM] jlun2#8758
> I checked their methodology, and as it turns out, they spoke mostly to Americans on cell phones, with only 20 per cent on landlines. 
my "landline" is my grandma's smartphone

> And 25 per cent gave no answer, presumably because they had never heard of this “Canada” of which the Leger people spoke.
tbh thats how i feel every time someone posts about some west asian country


[31-Aug-20 10:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mqYAEX292U


[31-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
oh rip, it got marked private


[31-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dRNbPB91-Y

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fuhkutube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dRNbPB91-Y
Man attacked with a brick in Baltimore, MD.
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[31-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
it cut off a few seconds from the beginning, but it wasn't relevant


[31-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
but wtf


[31-Aug-20 10:01 PM] Crow#5457
people trying to claim this is some BLM protester


[31-Aug-20 10:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
his short says BLM


[31-Aug-20 10:03 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or im wrong?


[31-Aug-20 10:05 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i think the shirt says RUN


[31-Aug-20 10:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
but it's a bit pixely so it;s hard to tell


[31-Aug-20 10:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it's like the red hats now, black shirts with big 3 letter words are automatically assumed to be BLM


[31-Aug-20 10:20 PM] Phelan#7647
I remember someone got assaulted for wearing a red bitcoin hat a few years ago.


[31-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Opponent#3498
he was wearing a bitcoin hat, it was justified :wheeze:


[31-Aug-20 10:21 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
people have gotten assaulted for wearign red sports teams hats, though i think that;s normal in sports


[31-Aug-20 10:21 PM] Pharynx#4802
opponent do you ever check your friend requests :sadface:


[31-Aug-20 10:22 PM] Opponent#3498
on occasion :P


[31-Aug-20 10:52 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dcQ6ScSlHA

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[31-Aug-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
just had a conservative nihilist link this to me and say that BLM is fake because they aren't protesting his death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlH7kfdDGcs

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Bodycam Shows Deputies Shooting Armed Suspect in Greenville, South ...
** (Disclaimer: This video content is intended for educational and informational purposes only) **
Greenville, South Carolina — The Greenville County Sheriff's Office released body camera footage from an officer involved shooting that happened in mid July. According to the She...
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[31-Aug-20 11:10 PM] Crow#5457
dude has a gun and a cellphone in his hands, runs away, they empty their mags into him


[31-Aug-20 11:12 PM] Crow#5457
tbh I'm surprised that channel is still up


[31-Aug-20 11:18 PM] Crow#5457
but anyway, the problem with that is that the changes BLM protest for would cover this dude as well


[31-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They really need to invent a highly effective net gun or some shit


[31-Aug-20 11:23 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Just use a taser


[31-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's going to be easier than training cops not to shoot everything immediately


[31-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Crow#5457
I don't get why it's legal to shoot everyone carrying a gun in a country where owning a gun is constitutionally protected


[31-Aug-20 11:23 PM] Teaspoon#9532
tasers have a high fail rate


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's also concerning how many cops have "bad ass" tattoos


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Maybe, but maybe we could pour in funds to develop better tasers instead of improving murder machines?


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
yeah, I got linked this video too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntFanbnGwNk

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Man Gets Shot After Charging At Cop With Two Sai-Style Knives
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Sheboygan, Wisconsin — The Sheboygan County district attorney has determined that the use of deadly force was reasonable and no charges will be filed in the officer-involved deat...
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[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Well yes, whatever


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Idk, man


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
guy with a knife charges a cop, he tried to taze but the taser failed


[31-Aug-20 11:24 PM] Crow#5457
so he pulled his gun and shot him


[31-Aug-20 11:25 PM] Pharynx#4802
it's almost like it's an organized group of thugs or something


[31-Aug-20 11:28 PM] Itsthinking#8251
TMNT remake is taking a weird direction.


[31-Aug-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
the ironic part about that second video with the taser is that I literally had just linked a video of a shooting I considered justified where a guy armed with a knife was coming towards a cop


[31-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPj0C1q0F-g

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Murder suspect surprises cop with knife
A suspect wanted for a homicide pulled a knife on Ohio police officer Joshua Hilling after he stopped him for illegally walking on a highway. Prosecutors praised Hilling's "incredible restraint" citing his bodycam video.
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[31-Aug-20 11:30 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Ok but why is there a dude with akimbo knives running at a cop


[31-Aug-20 11:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
psych issues that aren't treated and drugs probably


[31-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Poor people ain't got money to see a therapist


[31-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Seems like the guy was known, though


[31-Aug-20 11:31 PM] Teaspoon#9532
At least by the second cop


[31-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Crow#5457
in the heat of the moment, where you have to decide whether someone moving towards you with a weapon is going to kill you or not, I don't see why a police officer shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, it's just that there's so many cases where it's obvious the person they shot wasn't an immediate threat that it's obvious there's something fundamentally flawed with police training in the US


[31-Aug-20 11:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, by both


[31-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
lmao, that same conservative dude just said he thinks all criminals deserve to be shot, now he's desperately trying to walk it back


[31-Aug-20 11:47 PM] Crow#5457
> Dude was also a scumbag criminal, much like the countless others people are protesting over. The world is better to be rid of them.


[01-Sep-20 12:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/SomeMoreNews/status/1300533052729294848

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[01-Sep-20 12:09 AM] Itsthinking#8251
https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/mo-pres-0820/


[01-Sep-20 12:10 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Remember to always look into who was polled. This was mostly white boomer women


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[01-Sep-20 12:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/31/908002412/appeals-court-rejects-justice-department-effort-to-shut-down-michael-flynn-case

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[01-Sep-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://wkow.com/2020/08/28/church-truck-with-supplies-for-protesters-seized-in-kenosha/

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https://wkow.com/2020/08/28/church-truck-with-supplies-for-protesters-seized-in-kenosha/
Church truck with supplies for protesters seized in Kenosha
A Milwaukee church that sent a U-Haul filled with food and supplies to protesters in Kenosha, says it was seized and the people inside were arrested.
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[01-Sep-20 12:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
“Oh no! They’re sharing water bottles, that’s an act of terrorism!”


[01-Sep-20 12:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Why are they decked in better gear than the army...


[01-Sep-20 01:00 AM] Opponent#3498
eh, probably not better, US infantryman has ridiculous amounts of shit he gotta carry


[01-Sep-20 01:14 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Were those cops or milita


[01-Sep-20 01:15 AM] Serval#4825
I was in disbelief that they had a grenade launcher but remembered it probably has smokes in it


[01-Sep-20 01:16 AM] Teaspoon#9532
The US isn't there, _yet_


[01-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah it's smoke or tear gas, much more accurate and convenient than hand-held


[01-Sep-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfqxekbA7g

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfqxekbA7g
USMC Mark 19 40mm AUTOMATIC GRENADE LAUNCHER
U.S. Marines with II Marine Expeditionary Force Information Group fire Mark 19 40 mm grenade machine guns during a range as part of the II MIG Field Exercise at Camp Lejeune, N.C., March 7, 2018.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qPfqxekbA7g/sddefault.jpg


[01-Sep-20 01:29 AM] Crow#5457
40mm automatic grenade launcher


[01-Sep-20 01:30 AM] Opponent#3498
yup. Russians have AGS series of 30mm and 40mm belt-feds, others probably too


[01-Sep-20 01:31 AM] Opponent#3498
convenient light support weapon


[01-Sep-20 01:31 AM] Teaspoon#9532
pew pew


[01-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
> The Bolter's great grandad.


[01-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Crow#5457
that's basically an oversized bolter from warhammer 40k


[01-Sep-20 01:34 AM] Opponent#3498
there's an _actual_ Bolter's granddad btw. A shoulder-fired grenade launcher prototype, with a box mag of 6 of 7


[01-Sep-20 01:34 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Just add gyrojets


[01-Sep-20 01:35 AM] Opponent#3498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE

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Forgotten Weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE
Inkunzi PAW aka Neopup - 20mm Direct-Fire Grenade Launcher
http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeapons

Cool Forgotten Weapons merchandise! http://shop.bbtv.com/collections/forgotten-weapons

The Inkunzi PAW (Personal Assault Weapon) is a 20mm shoulder fired semiautomatic grenade launcher designed by Tony Neophytou (and previously known a...
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[01-Sep-20 01:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwO4ohqkjb0

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Incredibly RARE!  Shooting the  MBA Gyrojet ROCKET Carbine
Seeing both a Gyrojet pistol AND a carbine being shot is like catching a glimpse of Bigfoot riding a unicorn.  
The Gyrojet carbine and pistol were designed and sold in the early 1960's.   Sean, who owns both guns contacted me last week and we were able to set up this amazing ...
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[01-Sep-20 01:38 AM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/APqJCEozfQriWF6j5pISuDQ

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Suburban Trump 2016 voter has a message for the President — CNN Pol...
2016 Trump voter Mary Anderson tells CNN's Brianna Keilar what she needs to see from President Trump to secure her vote in November.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQXpvQnBEM2ozVDJla3I1blluRjRPaWcAMA


[01-Sep-20 01:45 AM] Crow#5457
@illumnious, please don't


[01-Sep-20 01:47 AM] Crow#5457
lol wtf, she thinks trump should send ben carson to kenosha to fix things


[01-Sep-20 01:47 AM] illumnious#7938
Ah crap I forgot


[01-Sep-20 01:48 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ff59ebmURDE/UYyLvQUURGI/AAAAAAAABXc/z7OWx8Mus5Q/s1600/don%27twww-scarfolk-blogspot-com.jpg

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[01-Sep-20 01:48 AM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article245376785.html#storylink=mainstage_lead


[01-Sep-20 01:48 AM] Pharynx#4802
> Anti-Trump GOP group led by Jeb Bush aide will spend millions in Florida to help Biden


[01-Sep-20 01:49 AM] Pharynx#4802
https://compote.slate.com/images/836c8a56-4546-45d5-890d-88a6fa7ab173.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=680x453&offset=0x0

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[01-Sep-20 01:49 AM] illumnious#7938
Hmmm


[01-Sep-20 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
JEB! :glowing_eyes:


[01-Sep-20 01:50 AM] illumnious#7938
:andioopjm:


[01-Sep-20 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Djeb


[01-Sep-20 01:51 AM] illumnious#7938
> lol wtf, she thinks trump should send ben carson to kenosha to fix things
@Crow  bruh that doesn’t make any sense like this is confusing in the highest order


[01-Sep-20 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jeb but he plays djent. Djeb

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[01-Sep-20 01:52 AM] illumnious#7938
I hate America rn https://apple.news/A9mRvtSOXQNay0bFnlufWLg

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Coronavirus cases are on the rise again across more than half of th...
The worrying trends across the Midwest come about two weeks after CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said the middle of the country "is getting stuck" when it comes to combating the virus.
https://c.apple.news/AgEXQTltUnZ0U09YUU5heTBiRm5sdWZXTGcAMA

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[01-Sep-20 01:52 AM] Crow#5457
in other news, apparently theres an #ArmTheLeft hashtag now


[01-Sep-20 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
Let me guess Twitter right


[01-Sep-20 01:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgK7fq-XoAEtXW4.jpg:orig

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[01-Sep-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
I'd be up for a free gun


[01-Sep-20 01:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Though I'm usually up for a free anything


[01-Sep-20 01:53 AM] illumnious#7938
:pinkgun:


[01-Sep-20 01:54 AM] Pharynx#4802
I'd take one but I get depressed sometimes


[01-Sep-20 01:54 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, need to keep in a safe...


[01-Sep-20 01:54 AM] illumnious#7938
:stabbybear:


[01-Sep-20 01:54 AM] Pharynx#4802
(not sure how far I can go with the macabre humor)


[01-Sep-20 01:54 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d take a free gun, though i;d probably never actually use it

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[01-Sep-20 01:57 AM] Opponent#3498
oh I'd absolutely sign up for this.


[01-Sep-20 01:57 AM] illumnious#7938
https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1300557758987730944?s=21

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Daily Caller (@DailyCaller)
https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1300557758987730944?s=21
President Trump is asked to comment on Kyle Rittenhouse:

"He was trying to get away from them and he fell and then they violently attacked him... It's something that we're looking at right now." https://t.co/mxw9b6HwHA
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[01-Sep-20 01:59 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"It's something that we're looking at right now"
Useful remark, wow, thanks Donald


[01-Sep-20 01:59 AM] illumnious#7938
> I'd take one but I get depressed sometimes
@Pharynx  poor gaybug


[01-Sep-20 01:59 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
yep, he;s going to try and interfere in the case


[01-Sep-20 02:00 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Apparently there's a thing called "computer screens". We're paying close attention to this.


[01-Sep-20 02:01 AM] Pharynx#4802
I spend all my waking hours staring at them

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[01-Sep-20 02:01 AM] illumnious#7938
Same

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[01-Sep-20 02:01 AM] illumnious#7938
And that’s why I’m depressed


[01-Sep-20 02:01 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
thirded


[01-Sep-20 02:02 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fourthed


[01-Sep-20 02:06 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Fifthed


[01-Sep-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
caw


[01-Sep-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
:caw:


[01-Sep-20 02:08 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-computer-funny-gif-4438256

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Grandpa uses a computer
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[01-Sep-20 02:13 AM] Pharynx#4802
https://theweek.com/speedreads/934978/joe-biden-look-like-radical-socialist-soft-spot-rioters-really

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Joe Biden: 'Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for...
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in a campaign speech on Monday pushed back against claims that he has a 'soft spot' for rioters while accusing President Trump of having 'fomented' violence in office.
Biden spoke from Pennsylvania on Monday for a speech focused on the...
https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/tw_image_6_4/public/gettyimages-1228287104.jpg?itok=2OIqx1RW


[01-Sep-20 02:13 AM] Pharynx#4802
> "Rioting is not protesting," Biden said. "Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction."


[01-Sep-20 02:14 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
I mean, it's not like he's gonna alienate the progressive voters. They'll vote for him anyway as they have no choice


[01-Sep-20 02:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Young people don't vote so yeah


[01-Sep-20 02:17 AM] Crow#5457
he's not wrong, governments love violent protests because it's simple quashing them with police/military/etc


[01-Sep-20 02:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
but...destruction *is* change


[01-Sep-20 03:00 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It's a very effective form of change because it's hard to undo. The GOP has been taking advantage of this fact for a long time now


[01-Sep-20 03:02 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/are-we-done-fighting/202006/the-psychology-explains-your-reaction-mass-protests

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The Psychology That Explains Your Reaction to Mass Protests
In the face of escalating protests, what factors determine how you feel?
https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/field_blog_entry_images/2020-06/black-lives-matter-5251408_1920.jpg


[01-Sep-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
> Activist Robert Levering notes another common misconception: that governments will only take protests seriously if the protesters show their power through destroying property or carrying guns. He asserts that in fact, “Governments invariably welcome violent protests. With soldiers, police, and huge arsenals of weapons, they know how to deal with any form of violence. They also infiltrate protest groups with provocateurs to stir up violence.”
> 
> Indeed, whether from paid infiltrators or real activists, movements that reject property destruction and violence have long had to figure out how to deal with people who don't. Many black activists leading the current protests have called on white people to stop using this moment as an excuse to break things. Tay Anderson, who helped organize protests in Denver, says, “When we aren't asking people to destroy things in our name and people do it anyway, we know that this is something that's going to blow back on us.”


[01-Sep-20 03:05 AM] Crow#5457
@WingbeatPony


[01-Sep-20 03:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
That's not really what I was getting at - it was more a reference to their gutting of regulatory bodies and other things that would keep them in check. But I guess also, introducing rioters to a peaceful protest destroys the protest, too


[01-Sep-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
but that's what biden was talking about in that quote from the article


[01-Sep-20 03:21 AM] Crow#5457
physical destruction


[01-Sep-20 03:21 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/jacob-blake-father-trump-trying-to-call-family-cnn-pastor-2020-8

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'We don't have a family pastor': Jacob Blake's father refutes Trump...
The family lawyer later said the president reached out to Jacob Blake's mother's pastor and declined to have a call if their legal team monitored it.
https://i.insider.com/5f4d7f347ffa48002894d472?width=1200&format=jpeg


[01-Sep-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://twitter.com/loch_northern/status/1300469311664914452?s=19

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polar bear 💣📦📫 (@loch_northern)
https://twitter.com/loch_northern/status/1300469311664914452?s=19
Cancelled!
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[01-Sep-20 04:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Biden is proud to be ALBANIAN 💪💪💪💪 🇦🇱


[01-Sep-20 04:08 AM] Opponent#3498
how old is this shit?


[01-Sep-20 04:10 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yugoslav wars, so mid nineties or so


[01-Sep-20 04:23 AM] dissociativity#8391
aight, this is what tito's cuck pit was invented for


[01-Sep-20 04:23 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[01-Sep-20 04:24 AM] dissociativity#8391
Joe Biden belongs in tha cuck pit


[01-Sep-20 04:25 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[01-Sep-20 04:25 AM] dissociativity#8391

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[01-Sep-20 04:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
damn, just realized Obama being an early advocate of social distancing by making it dangerous to gather in a group across the middle east

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[01-Sep-20 05:01 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you bringing this meme in here has very much the same effect on me as the kids in high school who axe bombed their gym lockers


[01-Sep-20 05:02 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Axe is flammable


[01-Sep-20 05:04 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, crude mouthpiece memes aren't something i enjoy either


[01-Sep-20 05:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
If you can draw your opinion into a comic, you automatically win.


[01-Sep-20 05:11 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barrs-removal-career-national-security-official-weeks-election/story?id=72726426

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Barr’s removal of career national security official, weeks before e...
Attorney General Barr’s removal of a career national security official, before election, raises concerns.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/_brad-wiegmann-doj-04-gty-llr-200831_1598887866033_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg


[01-Sep-20 05:12 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
For much of the past decade, that little-known office has been led by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Brad Wiegmann, a 23-year career public servant, not a political appointee. But two weeks ago, Wiegmann, 54, was told he is being reassigned and replaced with a political appointee, according to a Justice Department spokesman and sources familiar with the matter.


[01-Sep-20 05:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Trump is all about a neo-spoils system.


[01-Sep-20 05:18 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Contempt for the bureaucratic state that functionally built the modern US is definitely a weird populist angle.


[01-Sep-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
No joke, I'm pretty sure a lot of it comes from hating the DMV.


[01-Sep-20 05:20 AM] Itsthinking#8251
(Or similar institutions where people interact with their government at ground level)


[01-Sep-20 05:26 AM] Crow#5457
it sounds like barr is gearing up to brutalize protesters after declaring them "antifa terrorists"


[01-Sep-20 05:38 AM] dissociativity#8391
I'm aware Tito's cuck pit is a silly meme but it's so catchy, y'know, like parody rapping TITO GANG TITO GANG TITO GANG TITO GANG


[01-Sep-20 05:59 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Tito*

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[01-Sep-20 06:40 AM] Midknight#9798

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[01-Sep-20 06:45 AM] Crow#5457
> Would you disagree that there are at least some cases where the condemned are guilty without a shadow of a doubt and they deserve to be put to death?
> The point I'm trying to make is, you implied that if a government ever has to "brutalize" its people then its inherently fascist. And i couldn't disagree more. I think there are certain circumstances where that can and should be allowed to happen. For example the death penalty, and police responding to potentially life threatening situations with deadly force.
- A fascist.


[01-Sep-20 06:47 AM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30_hfuZoQ8

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Shaun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30_hfuZoQ8
The Death Penalty feat. PragerU
Sequelae?

Content warning: violence, sexual assault

PragerU video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dnVZibrV6g
Peterson & Rubin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJJClhqGq_M

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-leave-voters-death-penalty-yougov-results-...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L30_hfuZoQ8/maxresdefault.jpg


[01-Sep-20 06:47 AM] Pharynx#4802
basically a video about how you might _agree_ that some people should suffer the death penalty but that the state has no moral right to be the arbiter of that penalty


[01-Sep-20 06:48 AM] Pharynx#4802
> We need a content warning for “Jordan Peterson says something remotely reasonable”


[01-Sep-20 06:48 AM] Pharynx#4802
shockingly relevant
> Conservatives when the cops kill a black dude: "The video doesn't tell the whole story"
> 
> Conservatives when they need to argue for the death penalty: "Videos are absolute proof"


[01-Sep-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Wow, Wiegmann's removal is serious bad news bears. William Barr continues to be the most dangerous man in regards to dismantling the constitution


[01-Sep-20 07:06 AM] Pharynx#4802
current location: constitutional democracy
next stop: monarchy
final destination: fascist dictatorship


[01-Sep-20 07:06 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I think we're kinda skipping over the monarchy if I'm to be perfectly honest with you


[01-Sep-20 07:17 AM] Itsthinking#8251
You still have enough resistance even among die hard allies to prevent the worst


[01-Sep-20 07:27 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Slow it, yeah, but prevention is asking a lot, 'cause define worst. Worst being toppling of constitutional law? Kinda already seeing that. Worst being a second term, or a refusal to vacate?


[01-Sep-20 08:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1299485775587803137

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Trump: You know what I say? Protest this, your ass. I don’t talk about my ass https://t.co/CFel9t5Ooj
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[01-Sep-20 08:44 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
based


[01-Sep-20 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/08/29/tonawanda-residents-want-a-new-policy-that-allows-police-to-accept-sexual-gratuities/

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The Buffalo Chronicle
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/08/29/tonawanda-residents-want-a-new-policy-that-allows-police-to-accept-sexual-gratuities/
Tonawanda residents want a new policy that allows police to accept ...
Following tawdry rumors over a sexual misconduct allegation against a popular career police officer, Brett Rider, 46, several Town of Tonawanda residents are pushing the Town Board to change its po…
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[01-Sep-20 09:20 AM] Crow#5457
wat


[01-Sep-20 09:50 AM] dissociativity#8391
wat


[01-Sep-20 09:51 AM] dissociativity#8391
when you push to actually be able to suck the cop's dick

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[01-Sep-20 09:53 AM] dissociativity#8391
so I looked at this site and thought it was just satire at first but no, it's serious.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-buffalo-chronicle/

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Media Bias Fact Check
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-buffalo-chronicle/
The Buffalo Chronicle - Media Bias/Fact Check
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt...
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[01-Sep-20 09:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.canadalandshow.com/the-buffalo-chronicle-is-not-reliable/

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The Buffalo Chronicle Is Not A Reliable News Outlet
Yet people who should know better keep sharing their stuff
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[01-Sep-20 09:53 AM] Crow#5457
apparently buffalo chronicle is not reliable


[01-Sep-20 09:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
"thankyou officer, please fuck my wife" -t. american


[01-Sep-20 09:56 AM] dissociativity#8391
it's not satire, it's just batshit right wing propaganda, absolutely unhinged.


[01-Sep-20 09:58 AM] dissociativity#8391
oh it's canadian? huh


[01-Sep-20 09:59 AM] dissociativity#8391
eh, right wingers from canada and america are identical to be fair.

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[01-Sep-20 10:21 AM] dissociativity#8391
Y'know, my favourite thing is like, seeing how butthurt people get when you point out small businesses aren't some protected sacred class that we should all honour, bow down to in support and generally simp for

They're like a deity, the small business gods

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[01-Sep-20 10:25 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Please don't compare America's politics to Canada's. We lack identity politics and that is why it's very relaxed up here


[01-Sep-20 10:26 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Plus all parties work together in a way so we get less extremists up here


[01-Sep-20 10:27 AM] Bingo Bongo#0793
Plus you have an actual, based racist.


[01-Sep-20 10:34 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
based


[01-Sep-20 10:36 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Trudeau is more of a clueless idiot then anything


[01-Sep-20 10:40 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
But he pretty much legalized weed, so he did something useful


[01-Sep-20 10:45 AM] wren#0114
small business built America


[01-Sep-20 10:48 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
small business is important,look at russia and its lack of small business cause government taxes and examinations take away alot of your profits and also competition with chain stores


[01-Sep-20 10:51 AM] Audrey#7852
'Small' Businesses are like 'How am I going to survive? Will someone think of us?'

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[01-Sep-20 10:56 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
ok commie


[01-Sep-20 10:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
i guess you dont care about people who builded their business from scratch,who paid all those taxes,who payed staff for working etc and who's just goes bankrupt

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[01-Sep-20 10:57 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
coronavirus is shit


[01-Sep-20 11:19 AM] Audrey#7852
You may want to use 'People who *built*' 😉


[01-Sep-20 11:26 AM] Audrey#7852
Yes Coronavirus is horrible for all of us, employee or unemployed, but  small businesses don't pay the same taxes, they can have a lot of fundings and aids from the state here in Europe and in America. They also get away with many things such as 'should we hire more diverse people or equal opportunity or equal pay between gender?'


[01-Sep-20 11:27 AM] Audrey#7852
Small businesses shouldn't get a pass because they're 'small'.


[01-Sep-20 11:27 AM] Phelan#7647
No they don't. If there reason that there's more likely to be problems is because people are more likely to report bigger companies, so places like Walmart are under a microscope.


[01-Sep-20 11:27 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
not in russia


[01-Sep-20 11:28 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
forced diversity is cancer btw

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[01-Sep-20 11:28 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
employers should be hired based on their skills and not because some race quotas


[01-Sep-20 11:28 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Anything forced is cancer

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[01-Sep-20 11:29 AM] Phelan#7647
It's impossible to do as such for literally every small company in America. Small businesses make up about 47.5% of the workforce.


[01-Sep-20 11:31 AM] Audrey#7852
I prefer encouraged than forced.


[01-Sep-20 11:32 AM] Phelan#7647
I prefer anonymized applications.

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[01-Sep-20 11:32 AM] wren#0114
> They also get away with many things such as 'should we hire more diverse people or equal opportunity or equal pay between gender?'
those are legal requirements, not to discriminate based on race or sex in either hiring or in wages for the same job
https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/the-current-state-of-equal-pay-laws.aspx

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[01-Sep-20 11:34 AM] wren#0114
but @Phelan, then you can't walk up to the CEO to give him a firm handshake and ask for the job


[01-Sep-20 11:35 AM] wren#0114

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[01-Sep-20 11:37 AM] Phelan#7647
God, that reminds me, my dad's boss, the CEO of the company, was staying in America and my dad offered our place to let him stay the night. Dude had the tightest handshake ever.


[01-Sep-20 11:37 AM] wren#0114
is this the unspoken secret to winning in this economy


[01-Sep-20 11:38 AM] wren#0114
brb milking cows to train my grip


[01-Sep-20 12:00 PM] wren#0114
https://www.fastcompany.com/3056129/this-house-costs-just-20000-but-its-nicer-than-yours

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This House Costs Just $20,000—But It’s Nicer Than Yours
Rural Studio’s $20K House has such innovative design that it’s changing the entire housing system–from mortgages to zoning laws.
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[01-Sep-20 12:01 PM] wren#0114
http://ruralstudio.org/project_tags/20k/

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20K Archives - Rural Studio


[01-Sep-20 12:07 PM] wren#0114
this is so cool. I was looking into post-frame construction myself to find cheaper building methods liek this


[01-Sep-20 12:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/09/01/us-on-brink-as-vigilantes-guns-and-hate-stoke-fears-ahead-of-election.html
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Shootings that left three dead at protests against police brutality have stoked fears of rising violence as a deeply divided US heads into elections amid economic collapse, a deadly pandemic and the worst social upheaval since the 1960s.
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[01-Sep-20 12:07 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
these houses looks really eco friendly


[01-Sep-20 12:07 PM] wren#0114
https://ruralstudioblogs.org/category/current/2020-20k-home/


[01-Sep-20 12:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Sure isn't a great time to be down in the US right now, thankfully I'm not


[01-Sep-20 12:09 PM] wren#0114
been trying to find a way to move out of apartments onto small land, but house on land has very high mortgage, while building a new house costs more than the list price of similar houses


[01-Sep-20 12:10 PM] wren#0114
post-frame construction is a lot less expensive, but it's still considerable


[01-Sep-20 12:11 PM] wren#0114
it's so cool how the architecture students got to design for stronger construction using less materials, so they could help poor communities around there build small homes


[01-Sep-20 12:16 PM] wren#0114
and the homes are really pretty inside too

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[01-Sep-20 12:19 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/09/01/us-isolated-as-it-vetoes-un-resolution-on-foreign-militants.html

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US isolated as it vetoes UN resolution on foreign militants
The United States on Monday vetoed a UN Security Council resolution on foreign militants fighting with groups like Islamic State because it did not address repatriation, an issue that has long pitted Washington against its European allies.
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[01-Sep-20 12:20 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
See what I told about the US being just as guilty as China and/or Russia (or before 1991 the USSR) on abusing their vetoes?


[01-Sep-20 12:23 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Crow 
free guns? No thanks. The gun likely been used in illegal activity and now it is in one's possession with one's fingerprints. Framing 101.


[01-Sep-20 12:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
AK 47 FOR EVERYONE

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[01-Sep-20 12:26 PM] wren#0114
illegal activity

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[01-Sep-20 12:44 PM] illumnious#7938
https://apple.news/At0DmgXQaQmuiCQdMkYUTsA

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An unlikely state tightens up — POLITICO
The president is fixated on winning Minnesota this year after nearly capturing it in 2016.
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[01-Sep-20 12:55 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1300620978305736704?s=21

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[01-Sep-20 01:27 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-compares-police-using-force-golfers-choke-fox-news-2020-9

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Trump compared police who shoot people to golf players who mess up ...
Trump made the sports comparison while speaking to Fox News host Laura Ingraham ahead of a controbversial visit to Kenosha, Wisconsin.
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[01-Sep-20 01:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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In his moments of excruciating pain lying on the hospital bed, Justin Morissette replays Saturday evening's confrontation, wondering whether he made the right decision.
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[01-Sep-20 02:23 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/TheEpicDept/status/1300564050695335936

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War Criminal Respecter (@TheEpicDept)
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I like how Trump's primary strategy is pretending he isn't president right now
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[01-Sep-20 02:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[01-Sep-20 02:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/01/908159565/poppycock-federal-judge-bars-cbp-employees-from-screening-asylum-seekers

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'Poppycock!': Federal Judge Bars CBP Employees From Screening Asylu...
"The training requirements cited in the government's declaration do not come close to being 'comparable' to the training requirements of full asylum officers," U.S. District Judge Richard Leon wrote.
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[01-Sep-20 03:06 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlH7kfdDGcs&bpctr=1598967282 @Audrey your opinions on police actions?

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Bodycam Shows Deputies Shooting Armed Suspect in Greenville, South ...
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Greenville, South Carolina — The Greenville County Sheriff's Office released body camera footage from an officer involved shooting that happened in mid July. According to the She...
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[01-Sep-20 03:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
'those guys pretty much came ready to kill a guy


[01-Sep-20 03:19 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xyAaG2aZNU&bpctr=1598968107 how about this


[01-Sep-20 03:25 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
wow, that was a lot of panic


[01-Sep-20 03:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
She almost shot the cop directly behind him...


[01-Sep-20 03:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWj0hzOC-bg

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[01-Sep-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i didn t really see any rioting in that video, so i can;t say for sure those were actually rioters.


[01-Sep-20 03:42 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It'd help if there was any evidence of them rioting and not just a cop calling out people to be kidnapped


[01-Sep-20 03:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/cop-wore-far-right-patch-george-floyd-protest-not-fired-2020-8

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[01-Sep-20 03:59 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its illegal to be far right now?


[01-Sep-20 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
unless they're explicitly not allowed to wear custom patches on the uniform (in which case 'dont tread' also gotta go, as well as others if any), this isn't a valid reason to fire someone.


[01-Sep-20 03:59 PM] Opponent#3498
shaming and cancelling doesn't really work on police. Who knew.

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[01-Sep-20 04:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
The problem is that it sets a dangerous precedent for how police operate. It;s the same way police who were brutally assaulting people were wearing punisher patches. The militia ideologies overrides what should be police code of conduct.


[01-Sep-20 04:11 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Good thing wearing a patch has nothing to do with it.


[01-Sep-20 04:12 PM] Opponent#3498
if anything, the patch is an advance warning of what you can expect from the upcoming interaction. That's _useful_.


[01-Sep-20 04:12 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wear mercenary patch from stalker on my backpack,am i bad?


[01-Sep-20 04:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
you arent a cop

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[01-Sep-20 04:13 PM] SilferFox#6308
do constitional rights even mean anything anymore?


[01-Sep-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
now if you can _prove_ the misconduct, that's different. But don't start with 'patch evil'.


[01-Sep-20 04:13 PM] Opponent#3498
and, no, 'the misconduct is self-evident' isn't good enough for calling to fire a specific guy.


[01-Sep-20 04:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the patch of a militia tends to indicate that you are a member of said militia


[01-Sep-20 04:15 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I rather see hard evidence of being in the militia then assuming they are in the militia


[01-Sep-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
you're a member, or you agree with them, or you like the history, or you like the patch. It can mean many things. The important point here is if it provably affects their day job. (or, I suppose, is provably illegal.)


[01-Sep-20 04:16 PM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Assuming the worst of people is what's dividing everyone so much nowadays.


[01-Sep-20 04:16 PM] Opponent#3498
not their opinions, but their actions.


[01-Sep-20 04:19 PM] Opponent#3498
now, the system might not allow you to _prove it_. Then call for changing the system, not persecute a guy for wearing the patch. Removing the patch is easy and pointless. Fixing what's _actually_ broken matters though.


[01-Sep-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
I liked the core BLM call for police reform. Yes, excellent. It calls for changing specific points of conduct, more oversight, and so on, systemic issues.


[01-Sep-20 04:20 PM] Opponent#3498
this one isn't 'it' though. Call out prople who have a long record of misconduct instead (there's enough of them), that at least raises awareness.


[01-Sep-20 04:21 PM] Opponent#3498
this btw is the reason I hate ACAB as a concept.


[01-Sep-20 04:22 PM] Opponent#3498
it defeats the point of calling for a reform, when you disagree with the entire existence of the system.


[01-Sep-20 04:23 PM] Opponent#3498
it's not that some people break some rules, or some rules are faulty; the entire _class_ of people is irredeemably evil and must be removed.

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[01-Sep-20 04:24 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
There are entire police precincts who are wonderful and handle their job remarkably well. Those precincts should be held up as a golden standard.


[01-Sep-20 04:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
one of the problem with the patches is this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report It may not speak for all the cops wearing the patches, and Further training to not wear the patches might be a far better solution than firing. However the patches are still an indication of a problem within the law enforcement community.

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[01-Sep-20 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
maybe but it's not like the problem is new and nothing has been done with it so far.


[01-Sep-20 04:39 PM] Opponent#3498
a number of things is in play. The cancerous philosophical approach to what police duty is, 'don't feel bad for killing the ~~enemy of Man~~ criminal', there was a video linked here not too long ago, about a guy talking about 'American Sniper' or some shit during a police seminar, that was cringe.


[01-Sep-20 04:41 PM] Opponent#3498
the default face of the criminal being minority, with racial and ethno gangs being common in media and throughout history. A societal concern. Doesn't help that criminalisation of everything under the sun relies on 'good faith' of officers to moderate it, self-reinforcing loop.


[01-Sep-20 06:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1300803125520072708

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[01-Sep-20 06:15 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Lit


[01-Sep-20 06:15 PM] Teaspoon#9532
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Pokèmon Go (to the polls)
#MakePokemonGoGreatAgain

Hillary Clinton's cringey-ass statement: https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/753687954829242368
Blackberry toss into garbage (I know it isn't a smartphone ok): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMMfEqPttM4
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[01-Sep-20 06:25 PM] Teaspoon#9532
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-s-plane-loaded-thugs-rumor-matches-months-old-facebook-n1238962

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[01-Sep-20 06:26 PM] Pharynx#4802
red alert: the nutcase shit is coming from inside


[01-Sep-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
28 days left until the first debate, supposedly


[01-Sep-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
That sure will be something


[01-Sep-20 06:30 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Not sure what, but something


[01-Sep-20 06:34 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-big-hole-in-biden-and-trumps-covid-19-vaccine-plans

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The Big Hole in Biden and Trump’s COVID Vaccine Plans
Even when there is a COVID vaccine, getting people to agree to get it will be a huge undertaking no matter who wins in November.
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[01-Sep-20 06:34 PM] Pharynx#4802
> A poll released by NPR-PBS NewsHour-Marist earlier this month found that more than one in three Americans said that they would not choose to get a vaccine for the novel coronavirus once it becomes available for public use—which would leave a massive portion of the American population vulnerable to infection, and would make it functionally impossible to eliminate the virus for good.


[01-Sep-20 06:36 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The big hole is that a third of the population are dumbfucks =/


[01-Sep-20 06:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Did you guys hear


[01-Sep-20 06:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US vetoed some sorta UN anti-terrorism resolution or something


[01-Sep-20 06:36 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Hang on lemme find the article


[01-Sep-20 06:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How much does vaccine costs?


[01-Sep-20 06:37 PM] Pharynx#4802
$5


[01-Sep-20 06:37 PM] Pharynx#4802
this is the most you should expect to pay for it. most people will receive it for free as part of community immunization programs


[01-Sep-20 06:37 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
That's unamerican

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[01-Sep-20 06:37 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/09/01/us-isolated-as-it-vetoes-un-resolution-on-foreign-militants.html

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US isolated as it vetoes UN resolution on foreign militants
The United States on Monday vetoed a UN Security Council resolution on foreign militants fighting with groups like Islamic State because it did not address repatriation, an issue that has long pitted Washington against its European allies.
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[01-Sep-20 06:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
here it is, found it, sorry for reposting


[01-Sep-20 06:38 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dhs-chief-chad-wolf-tells-tucker-carlson-the-feds-are-working-on-corruption-charges-against-blm-leaders

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DHS Chief Tells Tucker the Feds Are ‘Working On’ Conspiracy Charges...
“Well, this is something that I have talked to [Attorney General William Barr] personally about,” Wolf said. “I know that they are working on it.”
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[01-Sep-20 06:38 PM] Pharynx#4802
> **DHS Chief Tells Tucker the Feds Are ‘Working On’ Conspiracy Charges Against BLM Leaders**
> “Well, this is something that I have talked to [Attorney General William Barr] personally about,” Wolf said. “I know that they are working on it.”


[01-Sep-20 06:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
*The United States wants foreign militants sent home and either prosecuted or rehabilitated there. European states, however, have been reluctant to try their nationals at home, citing difficulty in collecting evidence, concerns about a public backlash and the risk of fresh attacks on European soil.*


[01-Sep-20 06:38 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
this was basically what the Europeans and the US were fighting on


[01-Sep-20 06:39 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
anyone wish to comment?


[01-Sep-20 06:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fauci-debunks-theories-of-low-cdc-coronavirus-death-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

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Fauci debunks theories of low CDC coronavirus death toll: 'There ar...
"That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of Covid didn't die of Covid-19. They did," Dr. Anthony Fauci told ABC's "Good Morning America."


[01-Sep-20 06:40 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Define Foreign Militants.


[01-Sep-20 06:40 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
"But guys its just a cold"


[01-Sep-20 06:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
If Foreign Militants are just military of another country, why in world they should be prosecuted for orders of their home country?


[01-Sep-20 06:42 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I presume they refer to those people who leave their country of origin to fight in other parts of the world, usually with non-state actors or other nations, without renouncing their citizenship first


[01-Sep-20 06:43 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Why are there military actions in EU?


[01-Sep-20 06:43 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
?


[01-Sep-20 06:44 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Now I'm confused, what are you referring to?


[01-Sep-20 06:44 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the whole spat was only on whether they should be repatriated home before being prosecuted, that's it


[01-Sep-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
it's referring first/second generation immigrants in the EU that go to syria/irak to fight the holy jihad or whatever makes their pp hard and got captured


[01-Sep-20 06:45 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The EU wants nothing to do with them because they have no way of even knowing what crimes most of them committed


[01-Sep-20 06:46 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It's common practice that people of any nationality get tried and server their sentence in the country they committed whatever crime


[01-Sep-20 06:46 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
the US apparently has been long adamantant that they be sent back before being prosecuted for whatever reason


[01-Sep-20 06:47 PM] Teaspoon#9532
The US wants to not deal with the consequences of all the people they've captured and accused of "terrorism", and since Trump's got a hateboner for the EU in general, wants them all sent back to their "home" countries as a "fuck you"


[01-Sep-20 06:47 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
also given where they commit their crimes, their comrades who may still be at large could destroy evidence before it gets collected


[01-Sep-20 06:47 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Now it makes sense


[01-Sep-20 06:48 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
To say nothing of the danger of collecting them in threatened or actual armed conflict zones


[01-Sep-20 06:48 PM] Pharynx#4802
.aq @Teaspoon it's referring first/second generation immigrants in the EU that go to syria/irak to fight the holy jihad or whatever makes their pp hard and got captured


[01-Sep-20 06:48 PM] Sweetie Bot#2703
Quote added (**Teaspoon**:  it's referring first/second generation immigrants in the EU that go to syria/irak to fight the holy jihad or whatever makes their pp hard and got captured).


[01-Sep-20 06:48 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Jihad my ass daddy :nut:


[01-Sep-20 07:09 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah. Bonus points for someone captured for _reasons_ and 'repatriated' somewhere where they'll be immediately executed or 'disappear' in another way (thinking Kurds/Turkey, for example)


[01-Sep-20 07:10 PM] Opponent#3498
the off-hand mention of sanctions denies 'last week' is also telling. Grand politics at work, who can spite who more.


[01-Sep-20 07:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/514607-breonna-taylors-ex-boyfriend-was-offered-a-deal-to-say-she-was

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[01-Sep-20 07:13 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Breonna Taylor's ex-boyfriend was offered a deal to say she was involved in organized crime

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[01-Sep-20 07:57 PM] Audrey#7852
StonetossTrixie, 'its illegal to be far right now?' Surprise, in most countries, Far-Right and extremist groups like white supremacitsts and antisionist or antisemism are illegal.


[01-Sep-20 07:58 PM] Pharynx#4802
hmm yes, thoughtcrime


[01-Sep-20 07:58 PM] Pharynx#4802
far right / extremist groups are fascist thugs and should be given the boot by society, but to declare the ideologies _actually illegal_ is nuts


[01-Sep-20 07:59 PM] Crow#5457
it's not illegal to be far right/extremist, it's illegal to act on those opinions

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[01-Sep-20 08:00 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't know about America. I think racism is still banned there, but in Europe, most "far-right" nationalist and extremist groups are illegal. Especially in France we have laws on this since 2015 to be clear, it's not a 'thoughtcrime' to say you want to discriminate people based on their religion or gender identity, sexuality or skin color.


[01-Sep-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
though there are some countries where you can't express those opinions publicly


[01-Sep-20 08:00 PM] Crow#5457
but thoughtcrime would be thinking those things to begin with, not actually expressing them

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[01-Sep-20 08:01 PM] Audrey#7852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

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Thoughtcrime
In the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), by George Orwell, the word thoughtcrime describes a person's politically unorthodox thoughts, such as unspoken beliefs and doubts that contradict the tenets of Ingsoc (English Socialism), the dominant ideology of Oceania. In ...


[01-Sep-20 08:02 PM] Audrey#7852
Sounds very inspired by religion also puritanism.


[01-Sep-20 08:04 PM] Phelan#7647
Actually, the party in charge in 1984 is the British Socialist party


[01-Sep-20 08:05 PM] Audrey#7852
Here we have a newspaper called Valeurs Actuelle that has been using racism to attack a black minister, their screaming it's censorship because they have been attacked and sued for publishing a full blown racist story


[01-Sep-20 08:05 PM] Phelan#7647
English Socialist*


[01-Sep-20 08:06 PM] Audrey#7852
Is it mentioned or assumed, Phelan? Orwell was a socialist.


[01-Sep-20 08:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
you thinking thoughts that align with the far-right ideologies is not a crime in and of itself


[01-Sep-20 08:08 PM] Audrey#7852
Marx rejected the idea of authoritarianism. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon opposed everything 1984 depicted and mass surveillance society


[01-Sep-20 08:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Unfortunately, most of the time, these ideologies drive people to act on them


[01-Sep-20 08:10 PM] Audrey#7852
How do we know what people think? Because people now post it, write it online, speak it out on a family or 'friends' dinner, on a meeting with parents or coworkers. People don't hide these anymore, it's not thoughtcrime when you express a view, it's showing off who you really are


[01-Sep-20 08:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Thought-crime is such an unthinkable concept even without telepathy


[01-Sep-20 08:10 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
and with it I hope it becomes even more unthinkable


[01-Sep-20 08:12 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
?


[01-Sep-20 08:13 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes I understand, what I mean is, when people expresses hate speech, hatred discourses, full of racism, sexism, it is no longer a thought.


[01-Sep-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
the author of 1984 was a antifascist marxist revolutionary who personally shot and killed fascists

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[01-Sep-20 08:15 PM] Crow#5457
anti-authoritarian as well, was a vocal proponent of democratic socialism and hated what the USSR turned into under stalin


[01-Sep-20 08:16 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes crow but ironically his novels  are very popular among right wingers, 1984 and animal farm


[01-Sep-20 08:17 PM] Crow#5457
he personally participated in a peaceful stateless (technically anarchist) society that lasted for a few years before fascists swept in and killed/imprisoned everyone


[01-Sep-20 08:17 PM] Audrey#7852
it could be also a critique of far right extremism or nazism or what if fascism happened in britain


[01-Sep-20 08:18 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't know I only read extracts years ago when I was into anarchists and CNT


[01-Sep-20 08:19 PM] Crow#5457
animal farm was written in response to stalin betraying the communist movement to turn the USSR into a totalitarian shithole that ultimately killed the long term viability of the new country


[01-Sep-20 08:19 PM] Audrey#7852
Understood!


[01-Sep-20 08:20 PM] Audrey#7852
I prefer Hakim Bey for anarchism


[01-Sep-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
1984 was about totalitarianism itself, could be applied to both stalinism and fascism in general

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[01-Sep-20 08:23 PM] Audrey#7852
Thanks Crow that's what I meant to say 😄 I'm bad at speaking out clearly in a foreign language


[01-Sep-20 08:23 PM] Crow#5457
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613223207163396096/750370206962024518/image0.jpg

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[01-Sep-20 08:25 PM] Crow#5457
||that's ron paul||


[01-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Don't glorify the CNT or "the left" in general during the spanish civil war


[01-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
They were pretty hype about murder and executions as well


[01-Sep-20 08:33 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah, the anti-clerical campaign was just mostly unnecessary


[01-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
also of note that the episode "the cutie map" has nothing to do with communism :glimmer:

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[01-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Audrey#7852
When there's a war and necessaru change that has to happen perhaps it is


[01-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Teaspoon#9532
If you want to excuse schoolchildren being lined up against a wall and shot because they went to private schools, please leave


[01-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Audrey#7852
There was a quote from Saul Alinsky about this, on why change is power and change requires force to take down the deep rooted power


[01-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Pharynx#4802
I'm pretty sure the "we're all equal here" thing actually came from Animal Farm


[01-Sep-20 08:35 PM] Pharynx#4802
it's been a long time since I read it though so I forget the details


[01-Sep-20 08:35 PM] Audrey#7852
I don't caution any war crime, Teaspoon, don't get me mistaken, I don't even know what conflict is mentioned there!


[01-Sep-20 08:38 PM] Audrey#7852
Again, if anyone wishes to debate, feel free to PM me so we can discuss without flooding this room.

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[01-Sep-20 08:54 PM] Crow#5457
I can't find anything claiming that private school children were shot in revolutionary catalonia


[01-Sep-20 08:56 PM] Crow#5457
I did find that they were apparently accused of forcing farmers to work at gunpoint in communal farms, but that was debunked because there was a mix of both private farming and communal farming interspaced across every village


[01-Sep-20 08:57 PM] Crow#5457
well, it was worded as a "mixture of collectivists and individualists"


[01-Sep-20 08:59 PM] Crow#5457
so I'm willing to bet there's a lot of anti-revolutionary catalonia sentiment in spanish history books, considering that the winner of that particular scuffle was francisco franco and his fascists, and history is written by the victors


[01-Sep-20 09:01 PM] Crow#5457
they had labor camps, but they weren't forced, you could just do work to get an earlier release


[01-Sep-20 09:02 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Labor more like lazy


[01-Sep-20 09:03 PM] Crow#5457
apparently torture was a common form of punishment in spanish prisons of the time, but it was forbidden in revolutionary catalonian "prisons" (which were these labor camps)


[01-Sep-20 09:07 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
So some sorta "historical villain upgrade"?


[01-Sep-20 09:08 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Catalonia was always a difficult part of Spain though


[01-Sep-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
apparently the USSR supporters (the USSR was stalinist at the time) pumped out a ton of propaganda against revolutionary catalonia because they refused to become authoritarian


[01-Sep-20 09:12 PM] Crow#5457
and apparently tankies today still attack revolutionary catalonia for not being 100% anarchist, even though creating any society that's 100% of any ideology is impossible


[01-Sep-20 09:13 PM] Crow#5457
fascism is one of the ideologies that constantly attempts to create a 100% fascist society, and that's exactly why it always crumbles


[01-Sep-20 09:13 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[01-Sep-20 09:14 PM] Crow#5457
100 year ban lmao


[01-Sep-20 09:15 PM] Crow#5457
sounds like someone went to an in-game BLM protest (lol?) and started spamming the n word


[01-Sep-20 09:16 PM] Crow#5457
since pvp servers were removed from the game 2 years ago, there's no real way to grief players in game in any other way than verbally


[01-Sep-20 09:32 PM] Teaspoon#9532
Why doesn't he bronze his full body

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[01-Sep-20 09:33 PM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks so fucking weird


[01-Sep-20 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
https://twitter.com/tina_nguyen/status/1300827315971203077?s=20

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Oh god it's the 2020 version of Pokemon Go To The Polls 

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[01-Sep-20 09:36 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Not spot-on, but close enough


[01-Sep-20 09:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
apparently it takes hours just to bronze his face according to his make up crew, by the time they get done i think they just give up


[01-Sep-20 09:49 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
repost https://discordapp.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/750388228468506664


[01-Sep-20 09:56 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
as an added bonus you can invite biden to your island to sniff all your villager's hair


[01-Sep-20 09:57 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/514657-us-wont-join-global-coronavirus-vaccine-initiative

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The United States will not join a global effort led by the World Health Organization (WHO) to develop, manufacture and distribute a vaccine against the coronavirus, the White House said Tuesday.
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[01-Sep-20 10:01 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Aw yeah Trumps making us look like fools.


[01-Sep-20 10:17 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
> I'm pretty sure the "we're all equal here" thing actually came from Animal Farm
which was an allegory for Communism

Also, I think the episode idea actually came from "Harrison Bergeron", where the preferred method of making everyone equal was essentially handicapping everyone


[01-Sep-20 10:18 PM] Pharynx#4802
no, animal farm was not allegory for communism, it was allegory for stalin's control of the USSR


[01-Sep-20 10:18 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
yeah ok that's an important distinction oops


[01-Sep-20 10:18 PM] Pharynx#4802
orwell was a communist, remember


[01-Sep-20 10:21 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
I guess that's semi-accurate 
definitely liked the ideals but hated the practice of it


[01-Sep-20 10:22 PM] IAmADeliciousPotato#0598
but still, think it was more related to Harrison Bergeron than Animal Farm


[01-Sep-20 10:26 PM] Crow#5457
animal farm was specifically a criticism of stalinism and authoritarian socialism


[01-Sep-20 10:27 PM] Crow#5457
1984 was a criticism of authoritarianism in general, which would include china, russia, north korea, iran, saudi arabia, etc in the modern day


[01-Sep-20 10:28 PM] Pharynx#4802
A Brave New World feels more pertinent


[01-Sep-20 10:29 PM] Crow#5457
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World#Comparisons_with_George_Orwell's_Nineteen_Eighty-Four

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[01-Sep-20 10:35 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2017/12/16/goodbye-to-all-that-why-americans-are-not-taught-history-by-christopher-hitchens/


[01-Sep-20 11:00 PM] Crow#5457
https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2020/09/01-amtrak-tells-employees-it-will-furlough-1950-workers

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Cuts to be effective Oct. 1; 100 management positions also to be eliminated
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[01-Sep-20 11:01 PM] Crow#5457
amtrak received $1.4 billion in subsidies specifically to prevent furloughing

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[01-Sep-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/06/bailout-coronavirus-airlines/

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[01-Sep-20 11:09 PM] Crow#5457
> U.S. airlines want a $50 billion bailout. They spent $45 billion buying back their stock.


[01-Sep-20 11:12 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[01-Sep-20 11:14 PM] Sally Moon#4922
https://www.forbes.com/sites/karenrobinsonjacobs/2020/09/01/christian-site-raises-nearly-3270000-for-alleged-kenosha-teen-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse/#f7423522f431

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Christian Site Raises Nearly $327,000 For Alleged Kenosha Teen Shoo...
A spokeswoman for the site,  called GiveSendGo.com, said the campaign, launched last week,  was the “largest and fastest growing campaign we have had to date,” since the site launched in 2014.
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[01-Sep-20 11:16 PM] Sally Moon#4922
327,000 dollars straight down the drain. At least a law firm is going to get a big juicy payday when all this is said and done.


[01-Sep-20 11:17 PM] Phelan#7647
The legal firm is representing him pro bono


[01-Sep-20 11:18 PM] Phelan#7647
Since that article was written, it's raised almost an additional $6k


[01-Sep-20 11:19 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The article was written two hours ago...


[01-Sep-20 11:19 PM] Phelan#7647
https://www.givesendgo.com/GUCZ

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Now, Kyle is being unfairly charged with murder 1, by a DA...
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[01-Sep-20 11:25 PM] Sally Moon#4922
"Defending himself from Antifa" I hope that fundraising site is being held liable for making false assumptions


[01-Sep-20 11:26 PM] Pharynx#4802
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[01-Sep-20 11:28 PM] Crow#5457
that fucking blue line fascist dogwhistle flag is everywhere nowadays


[01-Sep-20 11:29 PM] Crow#5457
I even saw it on the back of a police cruiser like 4 months ago


[01-Sep-20 11:32 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I watched Trump's press briefing earlier this morning and he took the side of the shooter and refused to speak to the Jacob Blake family because attorneys would be listening in on the call


[01-Sep-20 11:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
bro his press briefing was fucking off the wall


[01-Sep-20 11:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
literal jackass Q conspiracy shit


[01-Sep-20 11:35 PM] Sally Moon#4922
It was and while I was listening to his tirade I became to wonder if he was reading a script or teleprompter but as the briefing went on I think he was going off the cuff on this one.


[01-Sep-20 11:36 PM] Phelan#7647
I mean, I'm pro-self defence as well.


[01-Sep-20 11:37 PM] Sally Moon#4922
I believe in using violence as a last resort and to flee if able no shame in the timid


[01-Sep-20 11:37 PM] Phelan#7647
Yea, I think Kyle felt the same way.


[01-Sep-20 11:38 PM] Phelan#7647
...And then he was cornered


[01-Sep-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem is the president of the united states should not get involved in a case like this as it tampers with the investigators ability to properly look into things, and the courts ability to find a proper jury and deal with evidence


[01-Sep-20 11:42 PM] Sally Moon#4922
From what I read about WI's self defense laws, Kyle could only retaliate if his life was in danger or at the cost of great bodily harm. Which he was not in. He was not protecting property because he did not own the car lot he was supposedly defending. And if he provoked someone he is also not entitled to self defense ether.


[01-Sep-20 11:43 PM] Sally Moon#4922
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48/1m


[01-Sep-20 11:44 PM] Itsthinking#8251
People were chasing him.


[01-Sep-20 11:44 PM] Crow#5457
because he shot someone


[01-Sep-20 11:45 PM] Crow#5457
the second and third shootings were people who were chasing him because he was fleeing from where he originally shot someone who threw a plastic bag at him


[01-Sep-20 11:45 PM] Sally Moon#4922
@Itsthinking (c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense.


[01-Sep-20 11:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
No one knows but he has been charged with two counts of murder


[01-Sep-20 11:48 PM] Itsthinking#8251
Ah, is this where the "people defending Kyle would think a school shooter has the right to defend against people trying to disarm him" thing comes from?


[01-Sep-20 11:48 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah


[01-Sep-20 11:49 PM] Sally Moon#4922
its complete nonsense


[01-Sep-20 11:54 PM] Phelan#7647
Someone was chasing him during the first shooting as well. Dude behind the two shot directly in the air with a handgun. If I was in that situation, I would think the dude chasing me is shooting at me.


[01-Sep-20 11:56 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.


[01-Sep-20 11:57 PM] Sally Moon#4922
Phelan, Kyle didn't really give a notice. He just shot someone.


[01-Sep-20 11:58 PM] Crow#5457
the muzzle flash was off in the distance, very likely wasn't even related to kyle and the dude with the bag


[01-Sep-20 11:58 PM] Sally Moon#4922
And the claim of self defense goes out the window when the mob stopped chasing Kyle and he held his hands up to the police i an attempt to surrender.


[01-Sep-20 11:59 PM] Sally Moon#4922
The crowd was most likely trying to disarm and detain him because he just killed two people


[02-Sep-20 12:02 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Wait, Kyle surrendered? I just remember hearing about the fake surrender guy


[02-Sep-20 12:03 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I would believe that if one of the guys trying to stop him didnt have a glock in his hand


[02-Sep-20 12:03 AM] Pharynx#4802
oh my god are we gonna do this again

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[02-Sep-20 12:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Kyle held his hands up and the cops just passed him by so he then got in his car and fled back to his state. If he as really fearing for his life and felt remorse he would have turned himself in immediately to the nearest police department or to a nearby officer. He didn't really do the second one so he as far as I'm concerned he is a killer and he should be locked up.


[02-Sep-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514689-trump-calls-for-cnn-to-fire-analyst-for-tweet-asking-if-president-had-a

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Trump calls for CNN to fire analyst for tweet asking if president h...
President Trump’s campaign is calling on CNN to fire political analyst Joe Lockhart after the White House deputy press secretary for former President Clinton stoked suspicion on Twitter about Trump having suffered a stroke.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/trumpdonald_08312020getty.jpg


[02-Sep-20 12:07 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump calls for CNN to fire analyst for tweet asking if president had a stroke


[02-Sep-20 12:07 AM] Pharynx#4802
kek


[02-Sep-20 12:08 AM] Itsthinking#8251
"No."


[02-Sep-20 12:08 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
"Our Supreme Leader is perfectly healthy and brawny! Don't you dare question it! I have Ben Garrison comic strips to prove it!"


[02-Sep-20 12:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I bet he wishes he had the thigh land doctrine


[02-Sep-20 12:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump: How dare you insult me someone should fire you. Also Sleepy Joe can't tell the difference between a sponge and a hot pocket.

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[02-Sep-20 12:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514687-eddy-grant-sues-trump-campaign-over-use-of-song

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514687-eddy-grant-sues-trump-campaign-over-use-of-song
Eddy Grant sues Trump campaign over use of song
Musician Eddy Grant sued President Trump's reelection campaign on Tuesday, alleging that it was infringing on his copyrights to the hit song "Electric Avenue."
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/eddiegrant_gettyimages0901.jpg

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[02-Sep-20 12:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is in the business field he should know how copyright works. He does love suing people after all over his brand and image so it should be second nature to him.

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[02-Sep-20 12:13 AM] Pharynx#4802
no you don't understand


[02-Sep-20 12:14 AM] Pharynx#4802
it's only bad when _they_ do it. when I do it I'm not doing anything wrong


[02-Sep-20 12:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump is really one of a kind, any other person would have been publicly disgraced .


[02-Sep-20 12:33 AM] Phelan#7647
@Itsthinking kyle surrendered to police, but they sent him home. The guy that got shot in the arm fake surrendered.
Also, when you're running away and someone fires a gun probably 20 ft away, I'm guessing that the guy chasing me is trying to shoot at me. You don't need to give warning if you think your life is in immediate danger.


[02-Sep-20 12:34 AM] Phelan#7647

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[02-Sep-20 12:34 AM] Sally Moon#4922
According to Wi you need to give a warning otherwise its just a killing Phelan


[02-Sep-20 12:34 AM] Phelan#7647
Here's the video with multiple angles


[02-Sep-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"fake surrendered"


[02-Sep-20 12:35 AM] Teaspoon#9532
What


[02-Sep-20 12:35 AM] Crow#5457
now you're just misrepresenting the video, the guy who threw the plastic bag didn't have a gun


[02-Sep-20 12:36 AM] Crow#5457
the people were talking about kyle when they were saying "he has a gun"


[02-Sep-20 12:37 AM] Phelan#7647
@Teaspoon the guy who was shot in the arm put his hands up and aimed his gun at kyle after kyle took his focus off the guy
@Crow I'm talking about a guy behind the two, he was on that side of the street and fired a handgun in the air.


[02-Sep-20 12:40 AM] Phelan#7647
Here, NYT has a pretty good timeline
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

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By Haley Willis, Muyi Xiao, Christiaan Triebert, Christoph Koettl, Stella Cooper, David Botti, John Ismay and Ainara Tiefenthäler
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html
Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings
Footage appears to show a teenager shooting three people during protests in Wisconsin. We tracked his movements that night.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/08/28/video/vid-kenosha-hp-print/vid-kenosha-hp-facebookJumbo.jpg


[02-Sep-20 12:43 AM] Teaspoon#9532
How is he fake surrendering? Looks like he's trying to help wrest the rifle away from an active shooter, and he could have shot him himself at any time


[02-Sep-20 12:44 AM] Phelan#7647

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[02-Sep-20 12:45 AM] Phelan#7647
Those pictures are in order


[02-Sep-20 12:46 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
one thing that bothers me about the guy who got his bicep blown off. he wasn't allowed to have a gun in his possession at the time, yet I don't see anyone pressing charges against him for it


[02-Sep-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks like he's showing his hands up to someone completely different


[02-Sep-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
It looks like he's showing his hands up to someone completely different


[02-Sep-20 12:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
They're on a completely different plane and certainly not facing eachother


[02-Sep-20 12:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Tiddy why does that matter?


[02-Sep-20 12:48 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
because it was illegal?


[02-Sep-20 12:48 AM] Phelan#7647
If you look at the video, dude surrenders and then pulls out his gun


[02-Sep-20 12:49 AM] Phelan#7647
The guy with the handgun couldn't possess it under federal law. Kyle may or may not have been able to openly carry it under state law.
If the guy didn't have the handgun, he wouldn't be missing a portion of his arm.


[02-Sep-20 12:50 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That still doesn't answer the question of why you needed to bring that up like it changes anything. Kyle lost the claim to self defense


[02-Sep-20 12:50 AM] Phelan#7647
how?


[02-Sep-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
there is no "may or may not" in the case of kyle, that charge is a foregone conclusion


[02-Sep-20 12:50 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
so someone pulling a gun on you and advancing on you to attack isn't self-defense?


[02-Sep-20 12:50 AM] Crow#5457
if you shot someone first, yes


[02-Sep-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
you lose the claim to self-defense when you are the initial aggressor


[02-Sep-20 12:51 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unless there's a video I'm missing, handgun guy doesn't show up in frame until just before getting shot and he already has his gun out


[02-Sep-20 12:51 AM] Crow#5457
and only gain it back if you clearly state that you've surrendered


[02-Sep-20 12:51 AM] Phelan#7647
Running away is a surrender.


[02-Sep-20 12:51 AM] Sally Moon#4922
a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
not according to wisconsin law, no


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] Crow#5457
he was running from the scene of a shooting too


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
runnign away is fleeing the scene of the crime


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm talking only about the pedo that was shot.


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Kyle could have raised his hands up and surrendered he still had options Phelan


[02-Sep-20 12:52 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it doesnt matter that he was a pedo


[02-Sep-20 12:53 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm just calling him that because it gives an idea of who I'm talking about


[02-Sep-20 12:53 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Do you have a source on him being a pedo outside of that one website that's known for fabricating sex offender registry entries?


[02-Sep-20 12:53 AM] Phelan#7647
Yea, hold on


[02-Sep-20 12:53 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
look, if someone pulls a gun and advances me, I'm not risking my life over technical stuff.


[02-Sep-20 12:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
if he had dropped his gun at the scene, and sat there and waited for police to aprehend him, then it would have been surrender


[02-Sep-20 12:54 AM] Phelan#7647
https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections.gov/PrintInmate.aspx?ID=172556


[02-Sep-20 12:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
@TiddySpurklez Deadly force is a last resort


[02-Sep-20 12:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Kyle had other options


[02-Sep-20 12:54 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
you talk like you never had a gun pointed at you before


[02-Sep-20 12:55 AM] Phelan#7647
Here, he was arrested in Arizona for a total of 15 years for two counts of sexual conduct with a minor and one case of interfering with a monitoring device.


[02-Sep-20 12:55 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I have never been held at gun point yeah. That doesn't change the fact that Kyle didn't purse other options like putting the gun down.


[02-Sep-20 12:56 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
then you don't understand the overwhelming fear of seeing someone advance on you with a gun drawn


[02-Sep-20 12:56 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
y'know, like kyle


[02-Sep-20 12:56 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
if I see that, I'll defend myself out of fear for my life


[02-Sep-20 12:56 AM] Phelan#7647
The dude that got shot in the arm said that his only regret was hesitating.


[02-Sep-20 12:57 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Kyle just killed two people that person advancing on him with a gun had just as much right to self defense as Kyle did if not more so


[02-Sep-20 12:57 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
a dude with a gun approached another dude with a rifle


[02-Sep-20 12:58 AM] Crow#5457
you're saying that a crowd of people has no right to self-defense when they witness someone shoot and kill an unarmed person who threw a plastic bag


[02-Sep-20 12:58 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Last time I checked hand guns don't have more killing power than an assault rifle


[02-Sep-20 12:59 AM] Phelan#7647
They can still kill easily in a single shot.


[02-Sep-20 12:59 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
a bullet will kill you no matter what gun fires it


[02-Sep-20 12:59 AM] Phelan#7647
But if I'm getting chased after by someone and hear a gunshot ring out relatively close to me behind, I'm gonna assume the guy chasing me has a gun.


[02-Sep-20 01:00 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Then you shouldn't own a gun Phelan


[02-Sep-20 01:00 AM] Phelan#7647
Well I do


[02-Sep-20 01:00 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
I own a gun as well


[02-Sep-20 01:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Anyway, as others have pointed out the crowd had just as much right to self defense as Kyle did.


[02-Sep-20 01:02 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Kyle didn't engage the crowd, until they chased him down


[02-Sep-20 01:03 AM] Phelan#7647
I would lean on maybe, not yes or no.
Thing about self defence laws is that you don't actually need to be in danger, you just need to *reasonably* think you're in danger.


[02-Sep-20 01:03 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Being chased does not qualify for self defense. They chased him because he just shot someone


[02-Sep-20 01:03 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Honestly I don't know what people were thinking, you run at a kid with a gun that's already shot someone, what makes you think you won't end up like the first dead guy?


[02-Sep-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
self-defense? fight or flight? ???


[02-Sep-20 01:04 AM] Phelan#7647
Why did the first guy chase after the kid?


[02-Sep-20 01:04 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
they chased him and started to attack him


[02-Sep-20 01:04 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
surrendering his weapon at that point would have been death


[02-Sep-20 01:04 AM] Crow#5457
can you prove that claim?


[02-Sep-20 01:05 AM] Phelan#7647
Can you prove that he wouldn't be killed?


[02-Sep-20 01:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
The guy attacked Kyle because he was trying to disarm him. You do know he just killed someone Tiddy?


[02-Sep-20 01:05 AM] Phelan#7647
...In self defence.


[02-Sep-20 01:05 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No


[02-Sep-20 01:06 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
i wasn't aware trying to bash Kyle in the head with a skateboard was an attempt to disarm him


[02-Sep-20 01:06 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
plus one guy did a running kick as well


[02-Sep-20 01:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.


[02-Sep-20 01:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Skateboards don't cut it


[02-Sep-20 01:07 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
skateboard is basically a mace that can kill you


[02-Sep-20 01:07 AM] Sally Moon#4922
haha no


[02-Sep-20 01:07 AM] Phelan#7647
You can be killed by a single solid punch


[02-Sep-20 01:08 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
uh yes?


[02-Sep-20 01:08 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So now you are saying anyone who hits you can now be retaliated against with deadly force?


[02-Sep-20 01:09 AM] Phelan#7647
If you reasonably think that they're gonna kill you, yes.


[02-Sep-20 01:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I slap you, you can now blow me away with a shot gun right?


[02-Sep-20 01:09 AM] Opponent#3498
why are you people still arguing about it? This is literally the perfect 'let the courts decide' case.


[02-Sep-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-amazon-ring-surveillance-doorbells-spying-police-raids-leaked-report-2020-9

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Police use footage from Amazon's Ring doorbells for investigations,...
Motion-detection cameras could also show officers' locations in a standoff or compromise officer safety, the FBI report said.
https://i.insider.com/5f4e59c8e6ff30001d4e64f8?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Sep-20 01:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
> Police use footage from Amazon's Ring doorbells for investigations, but leaked documents reveal the FBI is concerned that homeowners could spy on officers


[02-Sep-20 01:10 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
i'd ask why you would slap me if I was holding a gun


[02-Sep-20 01:10 AM] Opponent#3498
to become a martyr for BLM.


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
and maybe for the anti-gun crowd. It's a provocation, plain and simple. 'I'm not touching you, except I am'.


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
https://abc7.com/starbucks-fight-santa-ana-man-dies-skateboard/1098183/


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Because you are armed and therefore threatening my life Tiddy.


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
you hit me first, therefore i reacted


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] Opponent#3498
but w/e really. Shut up about it please all of you. At least discuss fucking Trump.


[02-Sep-20 01:11 AM] Phelan#7647
Being armed is not threatening a life. If you levelled the weapon, sure.


[02-Sep-20 01:12 AM] Phelan#7647
This was started cause of discussing Trump lmao


[02-Sep-20 01:12 AM] Sally Moon#4922
No you said you are holding a gun, that means you already had it out.


[02-Sep-20 01:12 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
just because I have a gun doesn't mean i'm looking to start shit


[02-Sep-20 01:12 AM] Opponent#3498
instead of debating law semanthics using incomplete information, while I bet none of you have a law degree in the relevant field or experience working with it. **Let the courts decide**, full stop.


[02-Sep-20 01:13 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Its like a mugger claiming self defense when he was armed and killed the victim who was not armed at all.


[02-Sep-20 01:13 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You fuckheads are still talking about Kenosha? :tired:


[02-Sep-20 01:13 AM] Phelan#7647
What?


[02-Sep-20 01:13 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i kind of agree with opponent here, it;s too blargled for anyone but the courts to decide


[02-Sep-20 01:14 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I guess you are right Kyle can fight the charges against him


[02-Sep-20 01:14 AM] Pharynx#4802
:tired:


[02-Sep-20 01:14 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
of course Trump weighing in doesnt help at all, it may end up complicating shit worse


[02-Sep-20 01:15 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Yeah, espeally after he spent that press briefing bashing the Wisconsin mayor


[02-Sep-20 01:16 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/514694-federal-agencies-deny-seeing-attacks-on-voting-infrastructure

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Federal agencies deny seeing attacks on voting infrastructure
The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) on Tuesday denied seeing any reports of attacks on voting infrastructure, following the publication&nbsp
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/electionvoting_031020getty.jpg


[02-Sep-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
@Phelan, that's not how it works, you made the claim that he was going to die if he surrendered


[02-Sep-20 01:18 AM] Crow#5457
you can't just turn around and expect other people to prove the opposite of your claim


[02-Sep-20 01:19 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
The medic should have shot first, plain and simple.


[02-Sep-20 01:19 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Proving-Non-Existence

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Proving Non-Existence
Demanding that one proves the non-existence of something in place for providing adequate evidence for the existence of that something.  Although it may be possible to prove non-existence in special situations, such as showing that a container does not contain certain items, on...


[02-Sep-20 01:20 AM] Sally Moon#4922
This is why mail in voting is important. Putin is going to do everything in his power to sway the election in Trump's favor because he knows Biden is going to be very tough on Russia for the hell that was the Ukarine Scandal


[02-Sep-20 01:20 AM] Opponent#3498
'very tough on Russia' is such a childish thing to say tbh


[02-Sep-20 01:21 AM] Phelan#7647
I was just countering your claim, you can't say one way or the other if he was gonna be shot.


[02-Sep-20 01:21 AM] Opponent#3498
Biden is flesh of the flesh and blood of the blood of his party. He himself, his personality, is just about irrelevant.


[02-Sep-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
no, it's your claim, you claimed that he was going to die if he surrendered


[02-Sep-20 01:21 AM] Sally Moon#4922
It does sound very Trumpy to be honest


[02-Sep-20 01:21 AM] Crow#5457
other people asking you to prove your claim is not in and of itself a claim


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
Trump benefits Russia because he sends US to it's doom one day at a time.


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
any other alternative probably wouldn't. That's it.


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Opponent#3498
it has nothing to do with any foreign policy


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Here's something else to think about: the cops that killed Floyed are almost certainly going to have the case dismissed


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Phelan#7647
What I meant to say that you can't say one way or the other if he was going to get shot. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't take my chances.


[02-Sep-20 01:22 AM] Teaspoon#9532
We can all look forward to the utter shitshow that will unleash


[02-Sep-20 01:23 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
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[02-Sep-20 01:23 AM] Opponent#3498
just power through it Intexda. This too shall pass :friend:


[02-Sep-20 01:24 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
it's only going to get worse before it gets better


[02-Sep-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
>implying it gets better


[02-Sep-20 01:24 AM] Teaspoon#9532
nice one


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I just hope the damage Trump has done to US institutions isn't long lasting.


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it is horribly long lasting msot likely


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
isn't permanent is what you meant to say.


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it will take atleast a decade to fix everything he ruined


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] Opponent#3498
it _will_ be long-lasting. No question.


[02-Sep-20 01:25 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
*at least*


[02-Sep-20 01:26 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
true, it's probably not going to get better. Everyone of you should come up to Canada and escape all the stupid


[02-Sep-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and that;s provided the senate is no longer GOP locked


[02-Sep-20 01:26 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or the house


[02-Sep-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
I don't think there's anywhere in the world to escape the stupid tbh.


[02-Sep-20 01:27 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Thanks for the offer Tiddy but I'm staying put. I love America too much to ditch it


[02-Sep-20 01:27 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i;d choose finland but they dont let americans in


[02-Sep-20 01:27 AM] Opponent#3498
:sad:


[02-Sep-20 01:28 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and canada is really only accepting medical personnel at the moment


[02-Sep-20 01:29 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
sometimes you gotta leave your country behind to pursue a better life. Me and my mom did that when we left France


[02-Sep-20 01:30 AM] Nebbie#8545
I don't know what the hell is going on in this channel today, but it sounds pretty bad.


[02-Sep-20 01:30 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump has fumbled the Covid 19 response so bad Americans can't really travel abroad.


[02-Sep-20 01:30 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
we;re plague locked


[02-Sep-20 01:30 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
Yeah I keep forgetting America has it the worse right now


[02-Sep-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump succeeded in building his wall, too bad it keeps us in instead


[02-Sep-20 01:31 AM] Nebbie#8545
Are we past whatever arguments popped up about shootings and justifications?


[02-Sep-20 01:31 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
seems so


[02-Sep-20 01:31 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
last I checked, Canada only had 128k cases


[02-Sep-20 01:31 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
what's the death count for the states from Covid?


[02-Sep-20 01:32 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
184k


[02-Sep-20 01:32 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I'm still disappointed that Trump literally screwed over the Lockdown by siding with Autotufers funded by Betty Devos..


[02-Sep-20 01:32 AM] Phelan#7647
Canada's not too hard to get to, I went over there during the summer months.


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Hard to get a visa


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] TiddySpurklez#2752
our death count is just over 9k


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Especially in the french speaking parts


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Phelan#7647
Good thing I was born there.


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
our cases are 6.08mil


[02-Sep-20 01:33 AM] Phelan#7647
It's a hell of a lot easier to get into the US than it is to get into Canada.


[02-Sep-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i was sadly born in america which means no dual citizenship for me


[02-Sep-20 01:34 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the fucked up part is our death rate rises 1k a day


[02-Sep-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well on top of all the other fucked up parts that is


[02-Sep-20 01:35 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That is starting to change Phelan. Trump administration has really started to crack down on Canadians crossing the boarder and applying for work permits


[02-Sep-20 01:35 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump wanted an isolationist country, and he seems to be getting it


[02-Sep-20 01:37 AM] Phelan#7647
I'm fine with cracking down on H-1B abuse, it's often abused in the tech industry which I'm in.


[02-Sep-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Isn't that the one he got his wife into the country with


[02-Sep-20 01:37 AM] Teaspoon#9532
"Exceptional high skilled worker"?


[02-Sep-20 01:38 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I guess Trump is finally woke up to the fact that Canadians are the largest groups of illegals in America not Mexicans and most are there because of expired work visas. But that wouldn't really sit well with his racist base.


[02-Sep-20 01:38 AM] Phelan#7647
H-1B is the most common work visa.


[02-Sep-20 01:38 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Yeah, she got in that way


[02-Sep-20 01:39 AM] Phelan#7647
You're thinking about the EB-1 visa.


[02-Sep-20 01:39 AM] Pharynx#4802
the US has a very pressing need for high-skill pornstars

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[02-Sep-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
She got that one later one


[02-Sep-20 01:39 AM] Teaspoon#9532
And after nationalization got her parents in through chain migration


[02-Sep-20 01:40 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Guess that's OK for some people but not for others


[02-Sep-20 01:40 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump did say he wanted people from Norway for some reason.


[02-Sep-20 01:42 AM] Phelan#7647
Eh, the problem is that the H1-B program does tend to get abused in the tech industry. If you're given the option of hiring someone for $100k a year vs hiring someone for $74k a year (with the risk if deportation acting as a tight leash) which would you choose.


[02-Sep-20 01:43 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Sadly the second option since it saves money and I'm less likely to get sued


[02-Sep-20 01:47 AM] Phelan#7647
Exactly, companies are supposed to choose American candidates before looking overseas but it's relatively easy to skirt this. Usually they'll do this by requiring a second language, one that's less spoken.


[02-Sep-20 01:47 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Well, that's capitalism for you :shrugpony:


[02-Sep-20 01:49 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Sadly, you grow numb to the consequences when you are ranking in millions a year. America is weird when it comes to White collar crimes giving light sentences despite White collar crimes doing way more damage than say robbing a bank


[02-Sep-20 01:54 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Fox News needs to stop pussyfooting around and start asking Trump questions when he starts pulling crap out of his ass.


[02-Sep-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Unfortunately everyone at FOX NEWS that does either leaves or gets put in a box after trying


[02-Sep-20 01:56 AM] Teaspoon#9532
You can be sure Wallace isn't going to have another interview with Trump in a long long while


[02-Sep-20 02:02 AM] Sally Moon#4922
I know..its just insulting whenever Trump has these one on ones with Ingram you can tell when he's lying or pitching a conspiracy theory and she just doesn't even bother asking him for clarification.


[02-Sep-20 02:02 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Oh, it's worse, she coaches him on the go


[02-Sep-20 02:03 AM] Teaspoon#9532
Any time he's about to say something juicy or be too honest she stops him or clarifies for him on the fly


[02-Sep-20 02:03 AM] Pharynx#4802
wasn't this wallace's third interview with trump?


[02-Sep-20 02:04 AM] Pharynx#4802
or am I messing it up because this presidency is utter batshit and he does so much insane crap that I can't even fit it all in my working memory


[02-Sep-20 02:04 AM] Teaspoon#9532
afaik the last one is the only one he actually did follow up questions


[02-Sep-20 02:06 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Trump does a lot of shock jocking to get people to look the other way. It is effective because I can't really tell you what happened in 2017 because Trump has done so many off the wall things I can't remember it all


[02-Sep-20 02:06 AM] Itsthinking#8251
H1-B stuff can be pretty abusive it seems @Phelan


[02-Sep-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
Not just for Americans, for the people it brings in


[02-Sep-20 02:07 AM] Itsthinking#8251
It benefits no one but the large companies


[02-Sep-20 02:07 AM] Crow#5457
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/sep/01/facebook-russia-internet-research-agency-fake-news

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[02-Sep-20 02:08 AM] Crow#5457
> The Russian agency that interfered in the 2016 US election created a fake leftwing news publication, staffed it with fake editors with AI-generated photos and hired real freelance reporters as part of a fresh influence operation detected and removed by Facebook, the company said on Tuesday.


[02-Sep-20 02:08 AM] Phelan#7647
I've heard stories of companies withholding the replaced worker's retirement unless they train the H1-B replacements.


[02-Sep-20 02:09 AM] Sally Moon#4922
Speaking of Freelance reporters and commontators I like Ring of Fire but I don't really like that he appears on RT programs like American Lawyer.


[02-Sep-20 02:10 AM] Pharynx#4802
I don't think that's legal


[02-Sep-20 02:10 AM] Pharynx#4802
not disputing that it's happened, but that employees would generally have legal recourse for that


[02-Sep-20 02:11 AM] Sally Moon#4922
If the person doesn't know the law then Businesses can take advantage of their ignorance


[02-Sep-20 02:53 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/514715-trump-admin-to-end-funding-for-cloth-face-masks-for-schools

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FEMA to end funding for cloth face masks for schools
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) officials said Tuesday the agency will end federal funding for cloth face masks in schools around the country.
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[02-Sep-20 02:54 AM] Opponent#3498
an excellent timing, at the start of school year.


[02-Sep-20 02:57 AM] Marukomuru#8409
Ah, yes. Before any funds can actually be spent :twismug:


[02-Sep-20 02:58 AM] Marukomuru#8409
(Yeah I know supplies are bought in advance. Shush. :trixdisgust:)


[02-Sep-20 03:10 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[02-Sep-20 03:10 AM] Opponent#3498
eeeeeee


[02-Sep-20 03:10 AM] SkreeBot#9520
Skreeeeeee!


[02-Sep-20 03:16 AM] Sally Moon#4922
So no funding for FEMA yet Trump just promised Kenosha they would get millions in aid to their police department. You know we wouldn't be gutting agencies if Trump didn't cut taxies again. Trump doesn't understand that Bush cut taxes, Obama tried to repeal the tax cut and failed so Trump just gave a ta cut a tax cut


[02-Sep-20 03:18 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now he wants to give a tax cut tax cut a bigger tax cut


[02-Sep-20 03:20 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his end goal on taxes is likely that there are none except for the lowest bottom tax bracket


[02-Sep-20 03:36 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
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[02-Sep-20 03:39 AM] Opponent#3498
the path of _overt_ fascist dictatorship.


[02-Sep-20 03:43 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/amazon-seeks-intelligence-analyst-to-track-labor-organizing-threats.html

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[02-Sep-20 03:43 AM] LeafyWasNotHere#5782
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[02-Sep-20 03:47 AM] Sally Moon#4922
That looks so cute


[02-Sep-20 03:54 AM] Opponent#3498
using those job postings is bold xD They _have_ to know they're under the public eye even without those analysts xD


[02-Sep-20 04:26 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Thonk time: I don't think the president and his acolytes are defending Kyle Rittenhouse because he wanted to be a cop, I think they're defending him because they want cops to be more like Kyle Rittenhouse


[02-Sep-20 04:27 AM] Opponent#3498
I would hope not, if the cop training gets so bad that being separated from the team becomes a norm, it'd be bad for _everyone_.


[02-Sep-20 04:28 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Honestly, though, aside from surrendering to the police, he did everything that modern cops wish they could do


[02-Sep-20 04:29 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
or, more generally, what they already do and wish we would stop catching them doing


[02-Sep-20 04:29 AM] Opponent#3498
...well here we go, round 7.


[02-Sep-20 04:39 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I mean, seriously, the whole "molotov cocktail" defense appeared as wishful thinking, didn't it? Kyle himself hasn't made any kind of statement that he thought it was a molotov, and yet it doesn't matter if he actually thought it was or not - because other people have put forth the idea that it *might* have been a molotov, they've also put forth the idea that he acted in self defense because he *might* have thought it was a molotov too, and therefore it was justifiably self defense. That same gaslighting circular logic applies to every other defense of his behavior - the whole "well, he allegedly did X and Y, but I think Z and Q happened, so therefore we should work from the assumption that Z and Q are correct because X and Y are attacks on his character"


[02-Sep-20 04:39 AM] Opponent#3498
well, self-defense is predicated on intent and personal assessment of a situation.


[02-Sep-20 04:40 AM] Opponent#3498
I personally would be... **wary** of someone chasing me down when I have a rifle.


[02-Sep-20 04:41 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if you know you've committed a crime, we tend to refer to that as "guilt"


[02-Sep-20 04:42 AM] Opponent#3498
oh, by the time the first shots were fired* everyone there was guilty of _some_ crime, be it breaking curfew, right to bear arms or whatever else.


[02-Sep-20 04:43 AM] Opponent#3498
*the first relevant ones to the story. People were apparently blasting away just because, and nobody pays much attention to that.


[02-Sep-20 04:44 AM] Opponent#3498
and after that, well, surrendering to the mercies of an angry mob, the same mob you risked breaking law to come and defend people against, not a rational decision methinks.


[02-Sep-20 05:16 AM] Crow#5457
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[02-Sep-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is the new low, no fanfare, no drama


[02-Sep-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
just people capitalising on those who missed the news to spread their agenda.


[02-Sep-20 05:18 AM] Opponent#3498
could probably count as identity theft if the laws were a bit up to date.


[02-Sep-20 05:34 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I remember an article from several years ago speculating that dead facebook accounts would become macabre advertising space, or that it was starting to happen, or something like that. And now here we are


[02-Sep-20 06:48 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/09/02/los-angeles-police-fatally-shoot-black-man-after-suspected-bike-violation.html

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A Black cyclist was fatally shot by Los Angeles County police, the latest instance of police killing a Black man, as the county Sheriff's Department and a lawyer representing the man's family gave diverging accounts of the shooting on Tuesday.
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[02-Sep-20 06:48 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Again? ***Really***?


[02-Sep-20 06:51 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
you're just paying attention now


[02-Sep-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
https://abc7.com/south-la-shooting-officer-involved-deputy-involved-lasd/6399237/

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Witnesses to a deadly shooting disputed what sheriff's officials say happened after deputies shot and killed a Black man in South Los Angeles on Monday.
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[02-Sep-20 06:53 AM] Crow#5457
> Witnesses to a deadly shooting disputed what sheriff's officials say happened after deputies shot and killed a Black man in South Los Angeles on Monday.
> 
> "He never had the gun. He had no gun. They said they heard a gun fall. What fell was his cellphone," said Deja Roquemore, who witnessed the shooting.
> 
> "They killed that man for nothing. For nothing. He had his hands up with his clothes in his hands, and he was backing up trying to get away from them and they kept antagonizing that man," said Latiera Irby, who witnessed the shooting.


[02-Sep-20 06:55 AM] Crow#5457
they started shooting him AFTER they claimed he dropped the gun


[02-Sep-20 06:56 AM] Crow#5457
so even if it was actually a gun, it was still unjustified because he wasn't armed at the time


[02-Sep-20 06:56 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Besides the obvious lie there, as someone who rides a bicycle, I'm having a *real* hard time figuring out what on this list a) gets guns pulled on you and b) can be accomplished with a bicycle http://www.trafficclinic.net/california-vehicle-code-violation-finespoints/

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[02-Sep-20 06:57 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
DWB isn't on this list, funnily enough


[02-Sep-20 06:57 AM] Serenity#9645

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[02-Sep-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
oh no, a fist


[02-Sep-20 06:59 AM] Crow#5457
better fill him with bullets


[02-Sep-20 06:59 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
yeah, this makes it sound like the cops have a phobia of guns and if you put one on the ground in front of an officer they'll jump like a cat seeing a cucumber and start blasting


[02-Sep-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
the US is a country in which owning and carrying a deadly weapon is a constitutionally protected right, imagine allowing police to shoot you for having a gun that is your right to carry


[02-Sep-20 07:00 AM] Crow#5457
not even using it, but just having it


[02-Sep-20 07:01 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Easy solution: shoot first


[02-Sep-20 07:01 AM] Crow#5457
also, that's exactly what the second article I linked is about, eyewitnesses said that there wasn't a handgun involved


[02-Sep-20 07:02 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
oh, and this happened in westmont? https://homicide.latimes.com/post/westmont-homicides/

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[02-Sep-20 07:05 AM] Serenity#9645
imagine evading arrest, assulting a officer, resisting arrest, and thinking nothing will happen. should he be shot. no, of course not. but why just point out every point that makes him seem like he was just riding a bike and was gunned down on his bike? just give the full story.


[02-Sep-20 07:05 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
I look at situations like this and think, "this kind of thing needs *some* kind of influence to keep things this way" and one of those things is policing the place like you're at war with them


[02-Sep-20 07:06 AM] Crow#5457
resisting arrest shouldn't be a crime

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[02-Sep-20 07:07 AM] Serenity#9645
well thats your opinion, id much rather you not resist and just use your 5th


[02-Sep-20 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
Note that the article talks about endless gang activity, but then it gets to the part about what the police are doing:
> On a recent evening, Deputies Branden Williams and Lisa Moya drove down West 105th Street between Normandie and Denker avenues. As the two flashed a bright light into the dark, men automatically lifted up their shirts to reveal their waistbands — proof that they weren’t carrying a gun.


[02-Sep-20 07:07 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
imagine the kind of life you'd have in an area where the police just patrol with searchlights all the time


[02-Sep-20 07:07 AM] Crow#5457
police in the US are acting like big, state-sanctioned gangs


[02-Sep-20 07:08 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And if you don't drop what you're doing and demonstrate that you're "clean" you *will* be stopped


[02-Sep-20 07:08 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
That’s because they pretty much are just militias using police uniforms at this point


[02-Sep-20 07:09 AM] Crow#5457
they're able to steal any money or property they want from anyone using civil forfeiture

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[02-Sep-20 07:09 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
And like...imagine thinking the solution to gang warfare is to roll around waiting to see a turf war break out


[02-Sep-20 07:11 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
It'd be like if someone thought the solution to the conflict in the gaza strip was for the US to invade and roll around all the time looking for weapons in order to make the region more peaceful


[02-Sep-20 07:16 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
As for making resisting arrest not a crime: I completely agree. Noncompliance should be expected from anyone caught actively committing a crime, noncompliance (in the form of confusion) should be expected from anyone wrongfully arrested. If someone is restrained, there are plenty of reasons to expect someone to struggle or have difficulty following orders: we have instincts, after all, and someone who is claustrophobic or inebriated etc. is likely going to act on those instincts if they get pinned.


[02-Sep-20 07:17 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
At the point at which resisting arrest becomes something you can reasonably point to as criminal behavior, you've usually got something else going on at that point as well: Assaulting an officer, fleeing the scene of the crime, yadda yadda


[02-Sep-20 07:19 AM] WingbeatPony#6582
as it exists today, the charge of "resisting arrest" is just an additional charge that can be tacked on to nearly any arrest, and can also be used to transform an unwarranted arrest of an innocent person into a crime that they can be arrested for. It's self-justifying, or justification after the fact, and that's not how the system should work


[02-Sep-20 08:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
On another topic I read that the US seriously considered invading and taking over Arab oil fields by force after the 1973 embargo


[02-Sep-20 08:11 AM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
I wonder what would've happened if they actually went through with it


[02-Sep-20 10:00 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://twitter.com/politidope/status/1300913578254446593?s=21

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[02-Sep-20 10:25 AM] Sir Frosty#3323
Trump outlaws soup


[02-Sep-20 10:27 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7KkkjGvKjA2ZWEtBkqoySE1XbkkLwwZa35DNxKmy_WQ/https/storage.googleapis.com/is-now-illegal.appspot.com/gifs/SOUP.gif

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[02-Sep-20 10:28 AM] Smug Trixie#8985
i wonder how many hours it takes trump to put his makeup


[02-Sep-20 12:14 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=u39LK_1599036019

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=u39LK_1599036019
Liveleak.com - BOOM  Snowflake take  down !!!
DomesticTerrorists Blocking Tow Truck Tries To Escape Police 
Oncomin..
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[02-Sep-20 12:17 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
how is blocking a truck an act of terrorism?


[02-Sep-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
That also wasn;t an arrestable offense, that was at most a ticketable offense


[02-Sep-20 12:20 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
They just unlawfully arrested that cyclist with unnecessary force


[02-Sep-20 12:20 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/VJB9XK0KcQU

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KGW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJB9XK0KcQU
Most agencies will not help Portland police with protests
The Gresham Police Department on Tuesday joined the sheriffs in Washington and Clackamas counties and said they will not send officers to Portland to help respond to the nightly protests, some of which have turned violent.

Surrounding local law enforcement agencies were calle...
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[02-Sep-20 12:23 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm not surprised, what with the sheer amount of violence the cops have displayed, i;d be reluctant to help them too


[02-Sep-20 12:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/9YWwE5T3dr0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YWwE5T3dr0
Portland Police declared a riot and went in hard taking down Antifa...
Close to 100 days, mostly nights of consecutive riots in Mayor Ted Wheelers city: Portland. He still refuses help from President Trump to end the riots once’n for all. Kinda ironic now that both Black Lives Matter and Antifa wants Wheeler to resign.

As reported thru the last ...
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[02-Sep-20 12:26 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
These titles are loaded as shit with no evidence to back thme up. It's not a riot just because police declare it is.


[02-Sep-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I love the rando footage of a burning table in there that just cuts in to make it look liek rioting is happening


[02-Sep-20 12:28 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
no evidence to suggest that burning table is from this particular scene or even in portland itself, it;s just sort of thrown in there and then cuts away back to the action


[02-Sep-20 12:33 PM] wren#0114
sign above it says pearl district, NW 10th Ave, which is in portland


[02-Sep-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
dude city has been 100 days under a siege


[02-Sep-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well fair enough I did not know this, that still tells me nothing of when it was burned


[02-Sep-20 12:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
its 100% rioting


[02-Sep-20 12:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw literally no rioting int hat video though


[02-Sep-20 12:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i saw some guy get gang tackled by cops, and a woman being dragged down the road, but no rioting from those people


[02-Sep-20 12:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
anyone who havent leave area as cops asked is a rioter


[02-Sep-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that;s convenient to stopping protests and stripping first amendment rights, huh?


[02-Sep-20 12:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
declare every legal protest a riot


[02-Sep-20 12:38 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i guess technically it counts as a riot in as far as
> an impressively large or varied display of something.


[02-Sep-20 12:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
thats how russian protests works


[02-Sep-20 12:39 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
we have right to protest but those in charge just claims its unlawful protest


[02-Sep-20 12:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
and now you have people protesting that too, good job


[02-Sep-20 12:40 PM] wren#0114
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/protesters-march-to-portland-mayor-ted-wheelers-residence-monday-throw-birthday-party-demand-resignation-live-updates.html

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March on Portland mayor's residence declared riot as burning debris...
Organizers focused the event on a demand for Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler's immediate resignation.
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[02-Sep-20 12:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well there you go, that works much better than some half assed footage splicing


[02-Sep-20 12:44 PM] wren#0114
I don't know if it's the same night


[02-Sep-20 12:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
also the people starting fires should be arrested, however if you want to prove that it;s happening instead of using footage of police gang tackling randos in the street, you should use footage of riots actually happening


[02-Sep-20 12:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the part where police gang tackle a guy tells me nothing as they're gang tackling everyone with legs and a bike these days


[02-Sep-20 12:51 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
We're in a climate where a lot of police are violent to just about everyone who isn't in a gated community.


[02-Sep-20 12:53 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514726-trump-reiterates-call-for-drug-test-before-debates-claims-biden-is-on-some

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Trump reiterates call for drug test before debates, claims Biden 'i...
President Trump on Tuesday reiterated his call for both candidates to take a drug test ahead of the presidential debates this month, claiming without evidence that Democratic nominee Joe Biden is "on some kind of an enhancement."
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[02-Sep-20 12:53 PM] wren#0114
I just wanna farm


[02-Sep-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i just want a house


[02-Sep-20 12:54 PM] wren#0114
same


[02-Sep-20 12:54 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"He speaks better than me and he;s older, he must be on steroids!"


[02-Sep-20 12:54 PM] wren#0114
I'm close to having the knowledge to build one almost entirely myself, but it'll take a while to save up for materials


[02-Sep-20 12:55 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i need land in a good location, and i have no knowledge on how to build a house


[02-Sep-20 12:55 PM] wren#0114
have you seen this group?


[02-Sep-20 12:55 PM] wren#0114
https://ruralstudioblogs.org/category/current/2020-20k-home/


[02-Sep-20 12:56 PM] wren#0114
slow mode is very gay


[02-Sep-20 12:57 PM] wren#0114
https://www.fastcompany.com/3017309/this-impeccably-designed-20000-house-could-soon-be-yours

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This Impeccably Designed $20,000 House Could Soon Be Yours
For years, students at Auburn University’s Rural Studio have been building cheap houses for impoverished locals. Now their designs are going mass market.
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_1280,f_auto,q_auto,fl_lossy/fc/3017309-poster-1280-studio.jpg


[02-Sep-20 12:58 PM] wren#0114
btw how come biden looks more orange than trump in that embed


[02-Sep-20 12:58 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
maybe he's trying to attract the orange voters?


[02-Sep-20 01:01 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
I think biden is also actually tanning in a booth as opposed to just slathering bronze on his face


[02-Sep-20 01:03 PM] wren#0114
this should be a debate question


[02-Sep-20 01:11 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
"Now, Mr.Biden, How did you get a better tan than Trump?"


[02-Sep-20 01:13 PM] wren#0114
>Biden turns to Trump
>Biden: "If you don't vote for me, you ain't orange"
landslide guaranteed


[02-Sep-20 01:29 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
@Smug Trixie so basically anything that protests police brutality is now a "riot"


[02-Sep-20 01:29 PM] Pharynx#4802
I mean what do you expect from a stonetoss stan

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[02-Sep-20 01:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
And also the us should be like Russia beacuse reasons


[02-Sep-20 01:30 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Fair point@Pharynx


[02-Sep-20 01:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
Never said that US should be like Russia


[02-Sep-20 01:31 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
But IMO its gonna be like Russia at some point


[02-Sep-20 01:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
@Phelan im not stan


[02-Sep-20 01:32 PM] Phelan#7647
Rood


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
From the description of that vid it looks like another right wing yt echo chamber to me fam


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
just like their style and some of their ideas


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Phelan#7647
[you pinged the wrong guy]


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
oh


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
Also the last time trump ""helped"" with the riots people where kidnapped


[02-Sep-20 01:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
sorry dude i was tried to ping pharynx


[02-Sep-20 01:39 PM] wren#0114
@Phelan


[02-Sep-20 01:39 PM] Pharynx#4802
@wren


[02-Sep-20 01:39 PM] Phelan#7647
Rood


[02-Sep-20 01:39 PM] wren#0114

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[02-Sep-20 01:39 PM] Pharynx#4802
imagine liking FiM applejack

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[02-Sep-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
```imagine the kind of life you'd have in an area where the police just patrol with searchlights all the time```
reminds me of the article I read once on Brazil with their BOPE. 'Go into the area and kill everyone who looks suspicious'.


[02-Sep-20 01:40 PM] Pharynx#4802
||PL applejack is great don't @ me||


[02-Sep-20 01:40 PM] Opponent#3498
(well a bit more nuanced than that, but that's the general idea.)


[02-Sep-20 01:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-says-it-wont-join-global-effort-to-find-covid-19-vaccine-2020-9

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The US says it won't join the global effort to find and distribute ...
"We will not be constrained by multilateral organizations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China," the White House said.
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[02-Sep-20 01:45 PM] wren#0114
I like apples

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[02-Sep-20 01:52 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://youtu.be/A2Ej0-1YWIo

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Kween B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2Ej0-1YWIo
ORGANIC TRUMP! He loves people and Country 🇺🇸
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[02-Sep-20 02:28 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://archive.is/1YSjn

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Trump’s Claim He Didn’t Have a Stroke Would Be More Convincing If H...
archived 2 Sep 2020 12:26:14 UTC
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[02-Sep-20 02:28 PM] Pharynx#4802
archive link to bypass paywall
> Trump’s Claim He Didn’t Have a Stroke Would Be More Convincing If He Didn’t Constantly Lie About Everything All the Time

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[02-Sep-20 03:01 PM] illumnious#7938

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[02-Sep-20 03:04 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i thought i had ublock on


[02-Sep-20 03:05 PM] wren#0114
>1 min, 83MB


[02-Sep-20 03:05 PM] illumnious#7938
Nope it’s a shitty upload but pussy shitty boi gonna release a lie in book form


[02-Sep-20 03:05 PM] wren#0114
nobody tell @Rainboom Dash


[02-Sep-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i am shocked


[02-Sep-20 03:06 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
truly, truly shocked


[02-Sep-20 03:07 PM] illumnious#7938
What the beautiful flying fuck???????

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[02-Sep-20 03:07 PM] illumnious#7938
Y’all ready for the shit ton link?


[02-Sep-20 03:07 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah it;s a rerun from the sad jr


[02-Sep-20 03:08 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He just keeps going at it


[02-Sep-20 03:08 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
his previous book had an interestign title:

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[02-Sep-20 03:08 PM] illumnious#7938
Yo I can’t take it https://donjr.com/
Also his website is like shit

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LIBERAL PRIVILEGE
In his second book, #1 New York Times best selling author, Donald Trump Jr. reveals the truth the media has long refused to cover. Read about the countless liberal scandals, years of entrenched racism in the democrat party and decades of failed polices that will paint a stark ...
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[02-Sep-20 03:09 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> reveals the truth the media has long refused to cover


[02-Sep-20 03:10 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah his second book: Daddy, why don't you love me over Jared Kushner?


[02-Sep-20 03:10 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
This is silly in so many different ways


[02-Sep-20 03:10 PM] illumnious#7938
I don’t know what’s worse

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[02-Sep-20 03:11 PM] illumnious#7938
The book or his shitty logo


[02-Sep-20 03:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
> and decades of failed policies


[02-Sep-20 03:12 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Easy to say they're a failure when your party keeps blocking everything that could be meaningful


[02-Sep-20 03:15 PM] illumnious#7938
WHEEEEEEEEEEZE

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[02-Sep-20 03:15 PM] SkreeBot#9520
Skree!


[02-Sep-20 03:16 PM] illumnious#7938
Fuck you bot


[02-Sep-20 03:39 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-sarah-sanders-one-for-team-kim-jong-un-2020-9

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Sarah Sanders says Trump told her to go to North Korea and take 'on...
Sarah Sanders says the president told her: 'Well, Sarah, that settles it. You're going to North Korea and taking one for the team!'
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[02-Sep-20 03:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah so that;s why she left the white house, to join a harem


[02-Sep-20 03:57 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
https://metro.co.uk/video/trump-warns-anarchists-weaponised-soup-2241126/

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Trump warns that anarchists have weaponised soup
Trump warns that anarchists have weaponised soup, sometimes carried in big bags, and law enforcement can't do anything about it because soup-carriers claim it's 'for their family'.
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[02-Sep-20 04:01 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
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[02-Sep-20 04:03 PM] Opponent#3498
self-awareness is for the weak.


[02-Sep-20 04:20 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Naw he’d respect them if they were straight Christian Right wingers


[02-Sep-20 04:24 PM] Opponent#3498
well yeah, but then the argument about identity making the entire personality wouldn't come into play.


[02-Sep-20 04:32 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-says-putin-critic-navalny-poisoned-with-novichok-nerve-agent-2020-9

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Germany says top Putin opponent Alexei Navalny was poisoned with No...
Germany demanded an explanation from the Russian government after discovering the nerve agent Novichok in Navalny's system.
https://i.insider.com/5f4fa912e6ff30001d4e6958?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Sep-20 04:37 PM] Opponent#3498
so several fuck-ups at once. Poisoning him _at all_, denying transfer then allowing it, using the specific poison traceable to a previous episode.


[02-Sep-20 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
yeah, this is the level of competence and subtlety of the government that's supposedly elects US presidents.

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[02-Sep-20 04:38 PM] Opponent#3498
_not much_.


[02-Sep-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
you don't need to be very competent to fuck with US elections, they've been insecure for decades


[02-Sep-20 04:44 PM] Crow#5457
it's only recently that russia figured that out and realized they could fuck over the US with it


[02-Sep-20 04:49 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
Watching superpowers fight would be entertaining if it wasn't so dangerous to us other nations


[02-Sep-20 04:50 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
or to us within the superpowers


[02-Sep-20 04:51 PM] ononim#8141
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1301163357337268225

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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1301163357337268225
German government says that #Novichok group nerve agent was used to poison Russian opposition leader Alexei #Navalny. 

He fell ill en route from Siberia to Moscow, emergency landed in Omsk, and was transferred to #Charite hospital in #Berlin 

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[02-Sep-20 05:04 PM] Crow#5457
russia hasn't been a superpower for decades


[02-Sep-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
they're just really good at projecting the appearance that they're way stronger than they appear, but russia's economy is smaller than canada's


[02-Sep-20 05:07 PM] Crow#5457
the only superpower since the USSR fell in the world has been the US


[02-Sep-20 05:08 PM] Crow#5457
china's on its way to becoming a superpower though


[02-Sep-20 05:11 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
well they're still dangerous


[02-Sep-20 05:11 PM] PzZ1-TD1#9901
but a shadow of what they used to be
(darned slowmode)


[02-Sep-20 05:16 PM] Twilight#0511
china is already a super power, or maybe a better question: what defines a "super power" country?


[02-Sep-20 05:18 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
nuclear weapon,big ass army and geopolitical influence


[02-Sep-20 05:24 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
https://www.rt.com/news/499700-bolsonaro-hammer-sickle-jail/

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Bolsonaro Jr. wants jail time for hammer and sickle: Brazilian pres...
Brazilian congressman and president’s son Eduardo Bolsonaro wants to introduce prison sentences for the production, sale or distribution of the hammer and sickle and five-pointed star imagery, classifying it as a hate symbol.
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[02-Sep-20 05:35 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Quickly someone paint hammers and sickles everywhere


[02-Sep-20 05:39 PM] Serval#4825
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[02-Sep-20 05:59 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Oh my god 
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[02-Sep-20 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
They just used the "people of means" meme unironically.


[02-Sep-20 06:00 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
You can't make this shit up


[02-Sep-20 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/02/kenosha-camera-store-owners-refused-participate-trump-visit/5689324002/

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Destroyed Kenosha store's owners refused to be part of Trump 'circu...
"I politely declined coming down there. I didn't want to be part of that fiasco," Rode's Camera Shop co-owner Paul Willette said.
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[02-Sep-20 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
so the store owners refused to take part in trump's circus


[02-Sep-20 06:15 PM] Crow#5457
so trump went to the building owners instead


[02-Sep-20 06:21 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-sarah-sanders-one-for-team-kim-jong-un-2020-9

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders says Trump told her to go to North Korea and...
Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the president told her: "Well, Sarah, that settles it. You're going to North Korea and taking one for the team!"
https://i.insider.com/5f4f8385e6ff30001d4e68f9?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Sep-20 06:22 PM] Pharynx#4802
Simp Jong Un


[02-Sep-20 06:23 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/02/politics/melania-trump-private-email-wolkoff-cnntv/index.html

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Melania Trump used private email to conduct official White House bu...
First lady Melania Trump used private email accounts rather than her White House email to discuss official White House business, according to her former senior adviser Stephanie Winston Wolkoff.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200825224603-105-rnc-tuesday-melania-trump-offset-super-tease.jpg


[02-Sep-20 06:23 PM] Pharynx#4802
Butterymales


[02-Sep-20 06:23 PM] illumnious#7938
:andioopjm:


[02-Sep-20 06:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/lara-trump-campaigned-with-proud-islamophobe-gop-candidate-laura-loomer-2020-9

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Lara Trump campaigned with 'proud Islamophobe' and racist conspirac...
Loomer is best-known for railing against Islam and immigrants, spreading conspiracy theories, and being banned by Twitter and Facebook.
https://i.insider.com/5f4fb422e6ff30001d4e69c0?width=1200&format=jpeg


[02-Sep-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/duncan-hunter-fake-border-crossing-825094/

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Peter Wade
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/duncan-hunter-fake-border-crossing-825094/
Rep. Duncan Hunter Faked a Border Wall Crossing on Facebook
And if he had crossed the border, he would have violated the terms of his bail
https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/shutterstock_9968894l.jpg


[02-Sep-20 06:42 PM] Crow#5457
from 2019


[02-Sep-20 06:43 PM] Pharynx#4802
> Had Hunter actually crossed the border, he would have created even more trouble for himself. The congressman is currently out on bail because he has been indicted for allegedly misusing campaign funds for personal family expenses to pay for luxury family vacations, dentistry and other bills, and even his children’s school lunches. According to the terms of his bail, Hunter is not allowed to leave the country, so if he had actually crossed over to Mexico, it would have been a violation of his bail.


[02-Sep-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/Tuftyboi/status/1300896376625287168

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Pumpkin Spice Dice! 🎃☕ (@Tuftyboi)
https://twitter.com/Tuftyboi/status/1300896376625287168
HOLD ON

ENHANCE
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[02-Sep-20 07:03 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit, is that ted cruz?


[02-Sep-20 07:05 PM] Pharynx#4802
yes


[02-Sep-20 07:08 PM] Pharynx#4802
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Ted_Cruz_official_116th_portrait.jpg/800px-Ted_Cruz_official_116th_portrait.jpg

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[02-Sep-20 07:17 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Looks shopped, unless someone explains this brown thingie:

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[02-Sep-20 07:25 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
He's carrying a bag with a gun to murder the people in front of him. I mean, duh?


[02-Sep-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/1230-report/514793-the-hills-1230-report-joe-kennedy-becomes-the-first-kennedy-to-lose-massachusetts-election-cheap-widely-available-steroids-effective-for-covid-patients-free-nuggets-at-wendys

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The Hill's 12:30 Report: First Kennedy to lose a Massachusetts elec...
To view past editions of The Hill's 12:30 Report, click here:
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[02-Sep-20 07:29 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Incumbent Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) defeated Rep. Joe Kennedy (D-Mass.) in the Massachusetts Senate primary.


[02-Sep-20 07:30 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
How good is it? Or is it "whoever wins, we lose"?


[02-Sep-20 07:31 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
well right now it jsut means ed markey goes onto the proper senate election vs a republican candidate


[02-Sep-20 07:32 PM] Crow#5457
ed markey co-authored the green new deal


[02-Sep-20 07:33 PM] Crow#5457
the kennedys are notoriously centrist


[02-Sep-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
also, wtf is that URL lol


[02-Sep-20 07:34 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Wtf is that link name... “free nuggets at wendy’s”


[02-Sep-20 07:34 PM] Crow#5457
> report-joe-kennedy-becomes-the-first-kennedy-to-lose-massachusetts-election-cheap-widely-available-steroids-effective-for-covid-patients-free-nuggets-at-wendys


[02-Sep-20 07:35 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
that is a weird url


[02-Sep-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Is Massachusetts gonna implement a chicken nugget subsidy? :bigbrain:


[02-Sep-20 07:35 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Universal Basic Chicken Nuggets


[02-Sep-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/wendys-free-chicken-nuggets-september-2020

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Wendy's Is Giving Out Free Chicken Nuggets All Month
You can't argue with that.
https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2888304/1200x600/scale;


[02-Sep-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
apparently september is "National Chicken Month"


[02-Sep-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
> In the end, it doesn't really matter. The thing that matters is this: Wendy's is offering a free 10-piece order of chicken nuggets with any purchase through its app. "Any purchase" means any purchase. You could just grab a drink and take home 10 nuggets on the house, or you can toss the nuggets onto the lunch order you were already making. You can't argue with gratis bonus lunch.


[02-Sep-20 07:36 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
nice


[02-Sep-20 07:36 PM] Crow#5457
encouraging people to use their app so they can sell your information


[02-Sep-20 07:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
ah


[02-Sep-20 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
because your information is way more valuable than the number of chicken nuggets you can eat


[02-Sep-20 07:37 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Hmmmm


[02-Sep-20 07:37 PM] Crow#5457
now I'm thinking of a scheme where you use the free 10 piece nuggets to feed homeless people or something


[02-Sep-20 07:38 PM] Crow#5457
just keep getting the cheapest possible orders to pile up thousands of nuggets to feed people with


[02-Sep-20 07:38 PM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Yeah i was thinking about that too


[02-Sep-20 07:39 PM] Pharynx#4802
I don't want "free stuff"


[02-Sep-20 07:39 PM] Pharynx#4802
when big corporations do shit like this it's almost always the result of unethical business practices (typically anticompetitive, but sometimes privacy related)


[02-Sep-20 07:39 PM] Pharynx#4802
I will pay the asking price for the chicken and pay it in cash. fuck that noise

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[02-Sep-20 07:44 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514768-biden-to-visit-kenosha-on-thursday

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Biden to visit Kenosha on Thursday
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his wife Jill will visit Kenosha, Wis., this Thursday as the city grapples with the fallout of days of unrest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake.
https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/bidenjoe4_08312020getty.jpg


[02-Sep-20 07:52 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Biden is wearing his mask correctly!


[02-Sep-20 08:03 PM] Audrey#7852
Yes he is, he's not stupid.

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[02-Sep-20 08:16 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Pharynx Still, purchase information will be stored anyway and compiled to your bank/credit card profile, which will be explored through "credit agencies" which has all info about you.


[02-Sep-20 08:18 PM] Crow#5457
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3999278

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Czech mayor calls CCP 'rude clowns' after threats over Taiwan trip ...
Prague district mayor warns China will pay 'heavy price for bullying' Czech Senate president
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[02-Sep-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
> Addressed to: Comrade Wang, minister of foreign affairs People's Republic China etc..
> 
> Calling for immediate apology for threats against Czech Republic.
> 
> Esteemed,
> 
> this was the last time you opened your mouth about CR! Your behavior have substantially crossed the lines of what is diplomatically acceptable. You dare to threaten senate chairman with pay heavy price, you unmannered rude clowns!
> 
> Now listen to me, comrade minister. PRC will apologize asap for the shameless threat. And when I say asap, I mean right now! I want to have it in 24 hours on the table of Czech foreign minister. Btw, he agrees with me, but has to keep his mouth shut because of pact of not very sane mercenary Miloš Zeman with our premier, co-conspirator Babiš. But that doesn't mean you will bully us like this.
> 
> Be ashamed and acknowledge that in future even a tone which would implicate threat towards representatives of our sovereign country I will make you pay a heavy price for bullying, and you won't like it. You will not train us from position of strength and I warn you that reaction from our side will be same even if you had invested 14x more than our friends from Taiwan instead of 14x less.
> 
> Wake up. You will not shit on us. Do not let this to be repeated.
> 
> Send me the copy of the apology on email, so I can put it in archives and forget your pathetic diplomatic fuck up you have just made. Don't piss me off.
> 
> With pretending regards.
> 
> Pavel Novotný, mayor of Prague-Řeporyje


[02-Sep-20 08:21 PM] Crow#5457
holy shit lmao


[02-Sep-20 08:24 PM] Pharynx#4802
@Эᴚ|∫ I pay with cash when I go places


[02-Sep-20 08:25 PM] Pharynx#4802
it is inconvenient to track the flow of petty cash so it is generally not done except by federal investigative agencies


[02-Sep-20 08:26 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
It becomes harder as you grow up.


[02-Sep-20 08:26 PM] Pharynx#4802
I am blessed with the particular convenience of having access to my bank's ATMs almost everywhere I go


[02-Sep-20 08:26 PM] Pharynx#4802
and they do not charge any withdrawal fee


[02-Sep-20 08:27 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am talking about cases where you cannot just walk around with $1000+ to buy big stuff


[02-Sep-20 08:27 PM] Pharynx#4802
what am I going to buy like that which couldn't be tracked anyway?


[02-Sep-20 08:28 PM] Pharynx#4802
I'm not sure I follow your point here


[02-Sep-20 08:28 PM] Pharynx#4802
this was about getting free chicken at wendy's


[02-Sep-20 08:29 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
The point is, it is hard to play data-conscious paranoid.


[02-Sep-20 08:29 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
is it really that bad if corporations knows where you spend your money?


[02-Sep-20 08:29 PM] Pharynx#4802
yes


[02-Sep-20 08:30 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
could you explain why exactly its bad?


[02-Sep-20 08:30 PM] Pharynx#4802
yes, give me a minute


[02-Sep-20 08:31 PM] Pharynx#4802
it's part of a system of predatory tracking and advertising used to label and deprive me of my humanity. I just become a number with which to target sales to, instead of a human


[02-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
so?ANY corporation wants to make money and does not give a shit who you are


[02-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Pharynx#4802
which is why we have to work to deny them as much influence as possible


[02-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Just ignore them.


[02-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Pharynx#4802
"we should improve society somewhat." "yet you participate in society. curious!"


[02-Sep-20 08:32 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
still dont get why they bad,they offering stuff based on what you buy so they could offer you something you actually need


[02-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am advert immune.


[02-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
if you dont want it just tell them fuck off and use adblocker


[02-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
there are legal concepts in most countries (conspiciously not the US) of the right to be let alone, called privacy doctrines


[02-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Pharynx#4802
I should have the legal right to be let alone without having to resort to ad blockers


[02-Sep-20 08:33 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
these seems are useless


[02-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
alright do you know that EVERY site use cookies to collect information about you?


[02-Sep-20 08:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
the problem with adblockers is they only work online, while advertises can now shove ads into video games and other offline media


[02-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
banks and companies have a partner program *without* your knowledge.


[02-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
and noone give a shit about that worldwide


[02-Sep-20 08:34 PM] Pharynx#4802
do you know that I wrote the application that the subject of this server uses


[02-Sep-20 08:35 PM] Pharynx#4802
yes, philomena uses cookies to collect information about you. the information collected isn't used to do creepy cross site tracking shit. it's just to persist your login and customize your UI.


[02-Sep-20 08:36 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
in your case i guess,but other sites arent that friendly,they just want to know what you need to show you better ads


[02-Sep-20 08:36 PM] Pharynx#4802
even still, I have the right to be let alone while using philomena based websites


[02-Sep-20 08:36 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
I am talking about stuff like that.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/banking/364418-personal-information-of-millions-of-south-africans-exposed-in-banking-data-breach.html

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Personal information of millions of South Africans exposed in banki...
The South African Banking Risk Centre (SABRIC) has warned that a major data breach at Experian has exposed the personal information of as many as 24 million South Africans and nearly 793,749 business entities to a suspected fraudster.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Security.jpg


[02-Sep-20 08:36 PM] Pharynx#4802
I don't have to give the application permission to store anything if I desire


[02-Sep-20 08:37 PM] Pharynx#4802
it will serve read-only requests without scripts or cookies enabled, and the tracking performed for write requests is the minimal subset of information we found that we needed to control abuse. it's never shared.


[02-Sep-20 08:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
your philomena project is non profitable and you designed it for that purpose


[02-Sep-20 08:38 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
you're the good guy among millions of the bad guys on the internet who wants your data


[02-Sep-20 08:41 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
@Pharynx How do you "keep logged in?"


[02-Sep-20 08:41 PM] Pharynx#4802
using cookies, like everyone else does


[02-Sep-20 08:42 PM] Pharynx#4802
it's stored inside the encrypted phoenix session


[02-Sep-20 08:42 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
Do you give cookies notice?


[02-Sep-20 08:42 PM] Pharynx#4802
don't have to


[02-Sep-20 08:49 PM] Pharynx#4802
people seem to misunderstand the eprivacy/eu cookie law and GDPR as "you always have to ask"


[02-Sep-20 08:51 PM] Pharynx#4802
that's not true. for strictly necessary and preference information, you don't have to ask, and the strictly necessary and preference cookie and tracking categories are predefined and clearly delineated under the respective laws. you don't have to explicitly tell the user that you are using cookies if you are not using them to track their behavior or track them across different web properties


[02-Sep-20 08:51 PM] Pharynx#4802
every time you see a cookie notice on a commercial website, it means either their lawyers are clueless or they _are_ doing behavior tracking


[02-Sep-20 08:51 PM] Pharynx#4802
so, watch your back


[02-Sep-20 08:58 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
or use adblock like any sane person


[02-Sep-20 09:00 PM] Эᴚ|∫#4373
and half-dozen of extensions


[02-Sep-20 09:02 PM] Smug Trixie#8985
only if you super paranoid


[02-Sep-20 09:08 PM] Gordon Freeman#1657
https://i.ibb.co/wKH7CCt/resp.png

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[02-Sep-20 09:17 PM] jlun2#8758
meme studies phd


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[02-Sep-20 09:54 PM] PwnyPony#6185
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/02/cummings-recruit-sacked-after-suggesting-police-use-live-rounds-on-blm-protesters

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Data specialist appointed after responding to call by Boris Johnson’s chief adviser for ‘weirdos and misfits’
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[02-Sep-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-presidential-debate-moderators-announced-for-trump-and-biden-2020-9

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The 2020 presidential debate moderators are set. These four journal...
Chris Wallace of Fox News returns to the chair for the opening night, with three newcomers taking on the other three.
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[02-Sep-20 10:34 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Chris Wallace of Fox News, Susan Page of USA Today, Steve Scully of C-SPAN and Kristen Welker of NBC News were chosen.


[02-Sep-20 10:36 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
Aw yeah all supporters of the T-man


[02-Sep-20 10:36 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
(Are they supporters?)


[02-Sep-20 10:37 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
chris wallace might be, but i dont knwo of the others


[02-Sep-20 10:40 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
though given that interview with him awhile back i;m going with probably not


[02-Sep-20 10:41 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m surprised Trump didn’t go full supporter only.


[02-Sep-20 10:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
Trump doesnt control the moderators


[02-Sep-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
it would be really fucking stupid to let the president choose the moderators


[02-Sep-20 10:42 PM] Sir Frosty#3323
I’m surprised trump didn’t bribe the person managing the debate into only picking supporters.


[02-Sep-20 10:42 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure he tried


[02-Sep-20 10:43 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
i'm sure a lot of presidential candidates try


[02-Sep-20 10:59 PM] Pharynx#4802
couldn't the debate host just... say that they were bribed?


[02-Sep-20 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
. https://imgur.com/gallery/8anPYyn

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Sounds about right
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[02-Sep-20 11:02 PM] Crow#5457
yikes


[02-Sep-20 11:05 PM] lince#8899

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[02-Sep-20 11:06 PM] Crow#5457
https://twitter.com/_AndreRobinson/status/1298307157381718016

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Andre Robinson 👁‍🗨 (@_AndreRobinson)
https://twitter.com/_AndreRobinson/status/1298307157381718016
Why is it hard to see the difference? https://t.co/WOMYdWCTVq
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[02-Sep-20 11:09 PM] lince#8899
https://twitter.com/ThomasTheTank12/status/1298318680703606784

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Tommy (@ThomasTheTank12)
https://twitter.com/ThomasTheTank12/status/1298318680703606784
@_AndreRobinson Hes gardening and looks ill hes not sure who these men are(PTSD maybe) and even has a bucket of weeds that shows he was minding his own business and deweeding his garden/lawn also he's not walking over to family members with a knife in his hand like Jacob Blak...
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[02-Sep-20 11:10 PM] lince#8899
Never seen someone deepthroat a whole boot so fast and still ask for seconds


[02-Sep-20 11:41 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
so many people deep throating whole boots int hat thread


[02-Sep-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
at this point the police might as well be wearing these people as shoes


[02-Sep-20 11:45 PM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Sep-20 12:45 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Sep-20 01:05 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Sep-20 01:37 AM] Pharynx#4802
I've seen this tweet many, many times over the past few months


[03-Sep-20 01:37 AM] Pharynx#4802
but I generally refrained from posting it here because I wasn't sure how it'd be received


[03-Sep-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
as a reeeeeeepost, primarily.


[03-Sep-20 01:40 AM] SkreeBot#9520
eeeeeeeeee!


[03-Sep-20 01:40 AM] Opponent#3498
I've seen it here at least once, so no loss either way :P


[03-Sep-20 01:41 AM] Pharynx#4802
:loss:


[03-Sep-20 01:44 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122

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[03-Sep-20 01:46 AM] Twilight#0511
he seems to not remember a lot of stuff. I guess that is one of his major skills for his job.


[03-Sep-20 01:49 AM] Opponent#3498
eh, this is rather petty


[03-Sep-20 01:49 AM] lince#8899
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/01/donald-trump-sarah-sanders-take-one-for-the-team-kim-jong-un-wink-book

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Trump told Sarah Sanders to 'take one for the team' after Kim Jong-...
Former press secretary describes boorish remarks by president in memoir Speaking for Myself, due out next week
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[03-Sep-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
approximartely 4th time this was posted here :D


[03-Sep-20 01:50 AM] lince#8899
In which the President of the United States of America "jokingly" tells one of his staff members to whore herself out to the dictator of a hostile nation.


[03-Sep-20 01:50 AM] Pharynx#4802
Simp Jong Un


[03-Sep-20 01:50 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
Bruh moment


[03-Sep-20 01:50 AM] Opponent#3498
this is the 'grab them by the 🐱 ' guy. Are you _really_ suprised even a little bit?


[03-Sep-20 01:51 AM] lince#8899
Just another thing evangelical Americans will pretend ever happened.


[03-Sep-20 01:51 AM] BadgingBadger🦄🌈#3215
How can such a man post so much cringe yet lose so few subscriber? I am fucking baffled


[03-Sep-20 01:51 AM] Opponent#3498
it's probably not even specifically malicious, he's just casually mysoginistic.


[03-Sep-20 01:52 AM] Opponent#3498
doesn't think much of it.


[03-Sep-20 01:52 AM] lince#8899
"Casually commits a war crime"
Just my nature 🤷‍♂️


[03-Sep-20 01:53 AM] Pharynx#4802
does north korea not have a flag emoji


[03-Sep-20 01:54 AM] lince#8899
🇰🇵


[03-Sep-20 01:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
🇰🇵


[03-Sep-20 01:54 AM] PwnyPony#6185
kp


[03-Sep-20 01:54 AM] lince#8899
kpop


[03-Sep-20 01:54 AM] Pharynx#4802
kp, interesting


[03-Sep-20 01:55 AM] PwnyPony#6185
K pop pop pop. 🇰🇵


[03-Sep-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
this isn't a war crime tier tbh. It's one of those 'if this was the worst that could be said of him it'd be fine' moments.


[03-Sep-20 01:55 AM] Opponent#3498
it really, really isn't.


[03-Sep-20 01:55 AM] Pharynx#4802
it's not a war crime, but it's a bruh moment


[03-Sep-20 01:58 AM] lince#8899
Biden gets dragged through the mud over sniffing hair, while Trump's out there boasting about his exploits in sexual assaulting women, creeping on minors, stating he'd fuck his daughter, and "jokingly" whoring out his underlings.


[03-Sep-20 02:00 AM] lince#8899
And this is who good American Christians will vote for with a pocket bible in one hand (never read) and a laminated constitution card in the other (used to cut coke lines).


[03-Sep-20 02:04 AM] Pharynx#4802
coke? nah, these guys are doing some hardcore speed


[03-Sep-20 02:04 AM] Pharynx#4802
just like the trump family themselves, go watch their faces tweak on TV


[03-Sep-20 02:09 AM] prism stryder(intexda)#4122
https://time.com/5883081/covid-19-transmitted-aerosols/?utm_source=facebook

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COVID-19 Is Transmitted Through Aerosols. We Have Enough Evidence, ...
Aerosols are more important when it comes to transmitting COVID-19 than we thought six months ago—and we need to act accordingly.
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[03-Sep-20 02:19 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
After some discussion among staff, it was decided to delete this channel, and put a rule in place banning IRL political discussion from this server.
I know some of you will be disappointed, but it's the majority decision.

This channel is currently frozen, in 24 hours it will be gone from public access. If you have anything to grab from here, make sure you do it now.


[03-Sep-20 02:21 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
You may wish to join our IRC channels and keep discussions there. If any other options for political discussion pop up, I will make sure to link them here before this channel is deleted.

Our IRC may be found here: <https://derpibooru.org/pages/irc>
The politics channel on there is `#derpibooru-politics`


[03-Sep-20 02:23 AM] Luna von Rainy'#1337
Additionally, the reasoning for our decision is that the channel is too uncontrollable for us to moderate efficiently and we can't afford having it on our Discord server unmoderated since it defeats the environment we're attempting to build here. We also suspect some of the messages in this channel may have been used in bad faith.

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[03-Sep-20 02:30 AM] Pharynx#4802
The move is occurring because it's both unmanageable and because Discord is systemically terminating the accounts of users who post here


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